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Feeding The Homeless BANNED In Major Cities All Over America

By Michael Snyder, on March 21st, 2012

What would you do if you came across someone on the street that had not had anything to eat for several days? Would you give that person some food? Well, the next time you get that impulse you might want to check if it is still legal to feed the homeless where you live. Sadly, feeding the homeless has been banned in major cities all over America. Other cities that have not banned it outright have put so many requirements on those that want to feed the homeless (acquiring expensive permits, taking food preparation courses, etc.) that feeding the homeless has become “out of reach” for most average people. Some cities are doing these things because they are concerned about the “health risks” of the food being distributed by ordinary “do-gooders”. Other cities are passing these laws because they do not want homeless people congregating in city centers where they know that they will be fed. But at a time when poverty and government dependence are soaring to unprecedented levels, is it really a good idea to ban people from helping those that are hurting?

This is just another example that shows that our country is being taken over by control freaks. There seems to be this idea out there that it is the job of the government to take care of everyone and that nobody else should even try.

But do we really want to have a nation where you have to get the permission of the government before you do good to your fellow man?

It isn’t as if the government has “rescued” these homeless people. Homeless shelters all over the nation are turning people away each night because they have no more room. There are many homeless people that are lucky just to make it through each night alive during the winter.

Sometimes a well-timed sandwich or a cup of warm soup can make a world of difference for a homeless person. But many U.S. cities have decided that feeding the homeless is such a threat that they had better devote law enforcement resources to making sure that it doesn’t happen.

This is so twisted. In America today, you need a “permit” to do almost anything. We are supposed to be a land of liberty and freedom, but these days government bureaucrats have turned our rights into “privileges” that they can revoke at any time.

The following are some of the major U.S. cities that have attempted to ban feeding the homeless….

Philadelphia

Mayor Nutter recently banned feeding homeless people in many parts of Philadelphia where homeless people are known to congregate….

Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter has announced a ban on the feeding of large numbers of homeless and hungry people at sites on and near the Benjamin Franklin Parkway.

Mayor Nutter is imposing the ban on all outdoor feedings of large numbers of people on city parkland, including Love Park and the Ben Franklin Parkway, where it is not uncommon for outreach groups to offer free food.

Over the past week, twelve members of food activist group Food Not Bombs have been arrested in Orlando for giving free food to groups of homeless people in a downtown park. They were acting in defiance of a controversial city ordinance that mandates permits for groups distributing food to large groups in parks within two miles of City Hall. Each group is allowed only two permits per park per year; Food Not Bombs has already exceeded their limit. They set up their meatless buffet in Lake Eola knowing that they would likely be arrested as a result.

Houston

Down in Houston, a group of Christians was recently banned from distributing food to the homeless, and they were told that they probably would not be granted a permit to do so in the future even if they applied for one….

Bobby and Amanda Herring spent more than a year providing food to homeless people in downtown Houston every day. They fed them, left behind no trash and doled out warm meals peacefully without a single crime being committed, Bobby Herring said.

That ended two weeks ago when the city shut down their “Feed a Friend” effort for lack of a permit. And city officials say the couple most likely will not be able to obtain one.

“We don’t really know what they want, we just think that they don’t want us down there feeding people,” said Bobby Herring, a Christian rapper who goes by the stage name Tre9.

Dallas

Dallas has also adopted a law which greatly restricts the ability of individuals and ministries to feed the homeless….

A Dallas-area ministry is suing the city over a food ordinance that restricts the group from giving meals to the homeless.

Courts dismissed Dallas’ request for a summary judgment last week, saying the case, brought up by pastor Don Hart (in video above) may indeed be a violation of free exercise of religion, as protected by the Texas Religious Freedom Restoration Act, the blog Religion Clause reported.

In the court filing, the ministry leaders argue that their Christian faith requires them to share meals with the homeless (Jesus did!) and that the requirement that even churches and charities provide toilets, sinks, trained staff and consent of the city keeps them from doing so.

Las Vegas, whose homeless population has doubled in the past decade to about 12,000 people in and around the city, joins several other cities across the country that have adopted or considered ordinances limiting the distribution of charitable meals in parks. Most have restricted the time and place of such handouts, hoping to discourage homeless people from congregating and, in the view of officials, ruining efforts to beautify downtowns and neighborhoods.

But the Las Vegas ordinance is believed to be the first to explicitly make it an offense to feed “the indigent.”

That law has since been blocked by a federal judge, and since then many U.S. cities have been very careful not to mention “the indigent” or “the homeless” by name in the laws they pass that are intended to ban feeding the homeless.

New York City

New York City has banned all food donations to government-run homeless shelters because the bureaucrats there are concerned that the donated food will not be “nutritious” enough.

The Bloomberg administration is now taking the term “food police” to new depths, blocking food donations to all government-run facilities that serve the city’s homeless.

In conjunction with a mayoral task force and the Health Department, the Department of Homeless Services recently started enforcing new nutritional rules for food served at city shelters. Since DHS can’t assess the nutritional content of donated food, shelters have to turn away good Samaritans.

Well, I don’t know about you, but I sure am going to give a cup of cold water to someone if they need it whether I have a permit or not.

It is as if common sense has totally gone out the window in this nation.

Over in New Hampshire, a woman is being sued for planting flowers in her own front yard.

This is the kind of thing that makes me glad that I have moved to a much more rural location. People in the country tend to be much more relaxed.

Sadly, those that love to micro-manage others continue to get the upper hand in America. Back in January, 40,000 new laws went into effect all over America. The politicians continue to hit us with wave after wave of regulations and laws with no end in sight.

All of this is making America a very unpleasant place in which to live.

it’s a bit the same thing in france ….. , but for business !!!! “do nothing and you will have a small pension from the state.”

a low income person or unemployed which pensions from the state will loose ALL his pension if he want to work even for a very small time business work.

I am disabled , and it’s my hell for many years !!! i receive a part time salary doing nothing , but when i try to work to make more money, even a little, the State take my pension, or more interesting, if i accept a contract for a job , the State takes my pension …. AFTER THE END OF THE CONTRACT !!!

Stupid World !!! EVERYWHERE

mark

If you are able to work, why should the tax payers continue to pay you. Many disabled can support themselves in a different profession than their old one. This is one problem that economy can’t support.

Jim

From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependence; from dependency back again into bondage.

Guess where we are right now?

Mistress B

Oh hold on a minute, I will just go and get permission from a member of parliament to answer that question – oh sorry permission denied – mustnt think for myself.

WE have a law still active, from 1885, which fordid women to wear pants !!!! but policemen don’t care

Gay Veteran

speaking of control freaks, can you imagine how many more homeless there would be if abortion was outlawed?

http://www.impcalgi.com IMPCALGI

fewer… because a nation that cares for unborn people will actually give a ******* about people who have hit rock bottom. Both the homeless and unborn children are among the most vulnerable members of our society, and our response to both of them says a lot about us as people. This article is about trying to get rid of the homeless by pushing them out of the cities, so we can all pretend they don’t exist… “aborting” them, if you will. It won’t work, any more than killing millions of unborn children has brought down rates of child abuse and domestic violence… that hasn’t happened.

You might want to think before you come out with any more smartass remarks that have nothing to do with the topic

Narddog

Great point, may I further that in saying we should allow post-birth abortions directed at people who cannot take care of themselves so we can just abort all the homeless people and solve this problem. No more homeless.

XYZ

Right, appreciating ur posts, GV. Not to say that many homeless are violent and criminals. Let these patethic retards feed them and take care of them. Their reward will be high.

WM

Yeah, there would be a lot of bastards running around. Easy to use that as an excuse to kill more babies, more homeless, over population, etc.

Did we forget the stats on abortion according to the 2004 Guttmacher study:

Rape and incest each were cited by less than half of a percent of all women who underwent abortion. Twenty-five percent said they weren’t ready for a child, 23 percent said they couldn’t afford to have one, 19 percent said they didn’t want any more children, 8 percent said they didn’t want to be a single mother or they had relationship problems, 7 percent said they were too young to have a child and 4 percent said they believed a child would interfere with their education or career.

Most abortions are conducted because of selfishness, adultery, fornication on the mothers part, FORCING her “freedom of choice” on an inncocent, voicless life.

The sword of the Lord is coming upon this nagtion due to its sins. You can mock, laugh and disagree all you want and believe that it will not happen, but surely as the sun rises each day, we will reap what we have sowed.

Deborah

Two thumbs up !

Ron McClure

I really hope and pray for the day when you and people who think like you become aware of your complete lack of wisdom. We don’t suffer because we honor God’s law. We suffer as the result of not honoring it. Abortion is a sin before God. Plain and simple. The result of that is our sorry situation. Your thought process suggest if we aborted every child from here on out we would completely solve the poverty problem. God Help Us.

prepply

Wrong. Not one of the commandments. God viewed an unborn child who was damaged by another as loss of property:
Exodus 21:22-25: And if men struggle with each other and strike a woman with child so that she has a miscarriage, yet there is no [further] injury, he shall surely be fined as the woman’s husband may demand of him; and he shall pay as the judges decide.

Michael

Prepply:

You are flat out wrong there.

You didn’t quote the rest of the verses….

22 “If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows. 23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.”

If the baby is born alive and uninjured then there is just a fine.

If the baby dies, the Torah said to “take life for life”.

So in essence the penalty for killing an unborn child was the death penalty.

Michael

Ron McClure

Michael: Thank You

prepply

No – you are wrong.
I noticed you switched the word ‘miscarriage’ with the words ‘born prematurely’. Miscarriage is defined by the death. So a fine is levied when an unborn child dies.
The ‘further damage’ refers to anything else damaged on the woman. There is where the “life for a life’ applies.
Bible scholars agree: http://www.str.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=5700

prepply

Actually – I step down from this position… Upon further reading ‘miscarriage’ does not necessarily mean death of the child just a bringing forth of. You guys are right here – please accept my apologies!! Sorry guys!

Michael

No prob prepply. It takes a big man to admit when a mistake has been made.

I know that I certainly have made a lot of them.

Michael

Deborah

How satan has sowed his seed of deception into these minds. May GOD in His mercy open their eyes and minds to see truth. “If you remain in My word, ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free”.

Witness the End

Can you imagine how many of those aborted could have been another Tim Tebow? Imagine if one of those aborted found the cure for cancer.

Gary2

or Imagine if one of the aborted is a serial killer or the next gang banger who shoots a member of your family.

I think my scenerio is more likley than yours although I need to admit what you say is possible but not too likley.

It is a agreed on fact that a part of the reason the crime rates went down was that many of the criminal gang bangers were aborted before they could commit a crime. I am not saying this is good or bad but that it is simply a reality.

MisterC

Imagine how many unaborted became like gary2, scary!

Tim

Yes, I can. Now I’m going to have to fight for pro abortion rights, damn it I was on the fence for so long. Thanks for ruining my neutral stance. urrggh.

The best Tebow story is during the combine……. absoultely hilarious

At the Scouting Combine before taking the Wonderlic test, there are some brief instructions and comments from the person administering the test. Then, after the person administering the test to Tebow’s group had finished, Tebow made a request that the players bow their heads in prayer before taking the 50-question exam.

Said one of the other players in response: “Shut the ***** up.” Others players in the room then laughed. I personally find this funny as well, not because Tebow was embarrassed, but mostly because someone actually came out and said that to him. The person that told him to “shut the ******* up” has not been identified, although I am sure at some point his name will be known.

Believe it or not, there are plenty of people waking up to the lies a deceit of religion. They are not taking it anymore and are going to stand up and say SHUT THE ********* UP! It’s a lie!
Stop spewing false crap!

comnenus

He might be in the Jets, waiting for the moment to drag Tebow out of the NFL for ever.

joe

well gee by that logic why only abort pre-born homeless? why not have ‘homeless hunting season’ to keep the homeless population in check?

you can’t justify murder just because the person might be homeless, you moron. you oughta be ashamed of yourself for your complete lack of regard for the sanctity of human life.

Deborah

Another 2 thumbs up !

comnenus

Actually the cops in Rio , Brazil, used to do that until Lula the communist came to power.

McKinley Morganfield

They are trying to drive the homeless out of the big cities. I live in a moderately sized town in Iowa and we have seen an increase in homelessness that has nothing to do with unemployment as we have unemployment of around 5.5%. These people are coming from places like Chicago and St. Louis.

anon

Gay Veteran
March 21st, 2012 at 3:06 pm · Reply

speaking of control freaks, can you imagine how many more homeless there would be if abortion was outlawed?

IT’S NOT YOUR ISSUE…YOU ARE GAY!!!!!

prepply

Gay doesn’t mean infertile. Many many homosexuals have natural born families. Many adopt the unwanted children of others. Thank God for people who raise children in loving homes.

Kevin2

I can’t count the times I have heard, “There ought to be a law”; Well you got it.

There ought to be a law to not make any more laws.

http://www.youtube.com/safearmsreview SafeArmsReview

Its a shame to see that governments are not allowing ppl to give from their hearts – to help others that need it. Instead of letting personal charity grow & create less of a drain on our debt ridden country, the officials (papers please) are just ensuring that more debt will be added to the pile.

The moral standards we once had in this country has been done away with & its sad to see that even if you believe in God or not, your told NOT to help out your neighbor, but I guess thats what you get when you ‘redistribute the wealth’.

;p

Ameen

“all of this is making America a very unpleasant place in which to live.”

I agree BUT….

I am a proud American Permanent Resident. Have lived in Kenya, the UK, Canada (citizen), Portugal / Europe.

All the same, control freak bureaucrats out of control….

Suggestions??

I will still take America over any other….
A.

A Citizen

Very interesting article the government will only get more powerful as the economy collapses more and more. I think we have about a year left what does everyone else think?

mark

It is hard to tell how long the can will be kicked down the road. It really depends on how long the bond holders will play the game and allow the central banksters to continue to print. If the tax payers continue to pay the interest on the debt and the bond holders will stay with low interest rates, this scam can go on for a while yet. If the bond holders demand much higher rates of the taxpayers say no more the crash will then happen. The key thing is if the bond holders are happy.

gwyn

hi your right citizen , about a year left

Jodi

Nobody can really determine how much longer we have until an economic collapse. I agree, I think we are nearing a collapse soon.

knightowl77

Gary2 and his buddies want to make sure the Homeless only get USDA approved food from the big food conglomerates that donate to the correct politicians….
Can’t have that Amish farmer give them any raw milk, because that might be worse than having them starve…
Bloomberg in NY has banned food “donations” to shelters because the food might have transfats or be too salty…..God forbid a starving person eats something that might have too much salt, whoever gets to define what too much salt is….and how often you can have it …..

My middle finger to all these “progressives/libs” who believe that starving is better than getting the wrong food, or that by giving out free food you “might” encourage more people to be homeless…These IDIOTS are KILLING people in the name of making things better.

David

Yep and the regressive/conservatives are killing people in undeclared wars and not paying for it along the way.

Let’s blame the progressive/liberals or maybe the regressive/conservatives. How about blaming yourself…

Lennie Pike

Then killing people is obviously their goal, or at the least they couldn’t care less about people. Anyone can easily see their dislike of people and cold hearts – Godless. They also demonstrate a high level of confusion – there is no common sense involved in anything they do.

DB200

Maybe there is no common sense, but there is a common goal: NWO.

http://www.povertylinejournal.blogspot.com/ the optimist

knightowl–You are spinning your little opinions out of thin air. Get a grip. Try to understand how power really works; it’s not about “libs”, “dems” or your other ridiculous slurs. IF ANYTHING, the progressives in this country are against everything you have stated that they are for. Just. get. a. grip.

Don’t you understand that there will be no societal progress while everyone still stupidly believes in the dem/repub paradigm and is running around point fingers, name calling, dividing into factions, and hating??? Open your eyes!

xander cross

Speak for yourself. I don’t see Ron Paul doing much about it other than collecting all of those moneybombs and having offshore accounts with Mitt Romney. Funny, how your precious ron paul works for someone like romney that would do anything for money. There is a good reason why they clamp down on that raw milk like if someone gets very sick from it and yes, people have gotten sick from it before. Your rhetoric is typical of the ron paul/republican field.

DB200

Everybody who buys raw milk knows that you have to cook it before you consume it. As the milk is not processed in a factory, the nutritious elements are more preserved.

Kelsey

Chill out, dude. I consider myself super liberal and I think this is horrendous. I know for a fact that eating unhealthily is better than starving. I really do. Just trust me on that one.

It’s a shame how I remember being taught to be kind and helpful to others when I was a little girl, and now it’s all suddenly backpedaling. The government’s basically bullying the poor, homeless and struggling while coming up with bullcrap excuses to get away with it. The fact that none of us, the same people who voted these assholes in, are doing anything about it is even more pathetic. Everyone’s out for themselves now. It’s not a good way to be, but in this present society, sadly, it’s the only way to be and survive.

Just for this, I’m going to feed every freaking homeless person I see. If I have food on me/am near a food place, of course.

Shannon

Um, I don’t think it’s the progressive/libs that are doing this. I’m a liberal myself and I find this COMPLETELY idiotic. As do ALL of my other liberal friends. I do think you’re pointing your finger in the wrong direction.

Kelby

People, its not the Progressives/Libs, Democraps or Republicunts exclusively, it’s ALL these parties. The party system is a joke, John Adams said political parties would be America’s downfall because people would favor one party over another (nevermind that most of the people in said party were crooks). They wouldnt look at individual people themselves, which is the MUCH better way of choosing Congresspeople and Senators, and most importantly the President. Dont discriminate on party.

And how is Ron Paul supposed to do ANYTHING??? If he tries to do something, he gets marginalized and henpecked and rejected, EVERY TIME, by the mainstream. He is ALL for liberty, and his voting record PROVES IT!

Gary2

Unbelieavble! Must be the heartless repubes making these rules. They hate the poor.

http://www.impcalgi.com IMPCALGI

Oh really? You think that REPUBLICANS run the major cities in this country. Flush out your head gear: NOT ONE of those city leaders mentioned in this article is a Republican. NOT ONE.

You might want to get your facts straight before you spout off any more disconnected nonsense

rodster

T-R-O-L-L

Gary3

LIke Bloomburg, the hard-line right-winger?

mark

Gary2, how can you say such a stupid statement. I am a conservitive and I don’t hate the poor. I donate hundreds of dollars a month to help feed them.

Gary2

Ok I admit I generalized. Generally conservative polices greatly hurt the poor and benefit the rich. If you vote conservative then you must be OK with this. Simply look at Paul Ryan budget-tax cuts for the rich and corporations and voucher for medicare and cuts medicaid. These will hurt the poor. (and the MF still does not reduce the deficiet)

All the repubes and their conservative base have and endorsed the Ryan plan, ergo they must hate the poor.. I do not understand how a budget that hurts the poor can be described as bold. A budget is a moral document and shows priorties and the repube priority is the rich. They do not even try to hide it anymore.

There I took the time to give you an answer. You may not like it but its the truth. When I rip on conservatives and they come back it must mean the truth hurts.

http://lnx-bsp.net/ Tel

Maybe you should look stuff up, instead of making stuff up?

Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter is a strong Obama supporter.

Mayor of Houston, Annise Parker is a Democrat.

Mayor Bloomberg has been one of everything, so he doesn’t count (currently listed as independent).

The most recent two mayors of Dallas have been Democrats too.

Gary2

anyone with a name like nutter has a lot in common with a squirrl turd.

Kevin2

Gary2

If you look at the list of the cities above you can see two of the largest (Phila & NYC) have Democrats in control. I can’t speak for the rest because I’m unsure of what administration is in power.

Government wants control pure and simple regardless of administration.

Gary2

bloomburg is a repube

Witness the End

Actually, almost all big cities are run by demoncrats.

TX4Life

Houston’s mayor has a “D” behind her name.

xander cross

Yes they do. Where I live at, a lot of republicans and tea party members do not like poor people, however, they enjoy using EBT and social security checks that they claim they are against. Also, a lot of Ron Paul supporters defiently don’t like black people and the poor, but they use food stamps and complain that black people use them, just like what Rick Santorum said himself and yes, Rick Santorum is a racist and I wonder if Michael is a santorum supporter since some of this article match what Santorum ideals are?

J.J.C.

This is a violation of freedom of religion. Christains must feed the poor.
Even Muslums have requirements for “alms giving”.

Our rights are being eroded daily and I think this is being done to create desperation and unrest….or at the very least make everyone dependant on the government and the government alone.

Rodster

LMAO so we can’t help and feed the homeless because of food safety concerns but these same people will rummage through garbage cans looking for anything to eat no matter how long the foods been in the garbage can?

OK gotcha that makes sense !

Mistress B

Here in UK it is illegal to rummage through garbage cans. At the end of the working day when shops throw out all their unused or out of date produce in giant waste bins out the back, if you go along and take the stuff out and you are caught on camera (they have cameras on the bins here) you will be arrested and fined. You are stealing. But some of the bigger department stores actually donate the food to homeless shelters which is good.

Rodster

Tell that to a homeless person who has NO identification card on their person. They will resort to whatever it takes to eat. We don’t have enough police to enforce someone rummaging in a garbage can.

And if they had the choice some would not mind going to jail where they would be taken care of in a better way than living on the street at the taxpayers expense.

Antonio Gonzalez

“We don’t really know what they want, we just think that they don’t want us down there feeding people,” said Bobby Herring.

Really they want the people die.

http://www.povertylinejournal.blogspot.com/ the optimist

That is absolutely correct, Antonio. And given that its “kinda important” in my moral view to do what I can to help those in worse off shape than me, I will completely ignore ******** laws like this and go about my business.

bolulu

america is going to hell in the back of a pickup truck and it aint pretty

old soldier

This upsets me….alot. Though I am not homeless, I depend on food from church run food pantries to supplement the food I have to get from the store for me and my mom. And I am not young. Food pantries in the area where I live are running out of food due to the increased numbers (one major pantry had to close for a week) of those needing it. One church pantry had to petition the govt to get govt food, since its pantry was running “dry”. If food donations are banned, it’s going to create a hardship for me and my mom as well as my siblings who get it as well.

Craig

I’m in the same situation Old Soldier. But here in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area we are blessed with so many good pantries–especially the ones run by the churches. I hope the U.S. government never comes and tells the pantries that they can’t give away dented cans or out-of-date products, etc. That’s the reason the pantires have so much food from the grocery stores to begin with. That would be a terrible thing for the state or federal government to do. You know the feds can justify anything to “make us more safe”.

http://theeconomiccollapse stu johnson

Welcome to America, land of the fee, home of the slave. I guess I’ll have to be sneaky to give someone in need a can of soup and a bottle of water. If you think about it, a large group of people might creat some problems but to solve this “possible” problem like this is just plane cold. It must be to hard to use some intelligence and find a positive solution. I was sent to this planet to find intelligent life, and the search goes on…..

Gary3

Easy for a billionaire like Bloomberg to decide whether someone else can eat. People would rather be alive than “eat healthy”– Poor dumb schmucks.

SouthernAZ

Looks like a thinly-veiled effort to get homeless people to leave the big cities. City officials certainly couldn’t just outlaw homeless from living on their streets — then they would be MEAN elected officials or bureaucrats. This policy creates the illusion of caring, but their ‘ends’ justify the ‘means.’ Many cities stand to save a lot of $$ they currently use for additional sanitation, medical care and security (both security for and from homeless people) by decreasing the homeless population. I lived in San Fran for years and saw it every day en route to work.

Look out smaller towns, here they come!

John W.

This is what Obama care will do to the elderly. Gotta love those left wing statists. they love mankind as a conceot but hate people. No one loved them when they were little. Like Gary they think the voices in their head make them smart.

Craig

You’re right. Their real motive is to discourage the homeless from haning near the supply of food in the cities.

Ex Military

Most of the homeless are people who fought for our country they have already been let down once now they are just trying to get rid of them. That is really sad. I have heard of a secret society who wants only the poor to work like slaves. They are right they no longer want a middle class. Poor people who have to rely on them for food and shelter will do jobs they normally wouldn’t do just to feed there family. As someone else said what about all they put in our ground where are food is grown. Do you know they grow chickens so fast they can’t even stand on there own two feet anymore. We are suppose to be the land of the free. Why are not having a say in all these new laws. And they wonder why people are depressed.

BeenThere

“Some cities are doing these things because they are concerned about the “health risks” of the food being distributed by ordinary “do-gooders”. Other cities are passing these laws because they do not want homeless people congregating in city centers where they know that they will be fed.”

It seems the left wing are banning it for PC reasons and the right wing for their usual nazi ideas of these people deserve to die anyway and those in the middle who want to help are being stopped from doing so.

XYZ

u have no idea what Nazism was really all about. Go back to watching TV and eating burgers.

knightowl77

I have worked with the homeless and homeless shelters for more than 30 years….

In all my observations it was the lefty do-gooders who were always trying to regulate where this shelter could be or that soup kitchen might exist…..because supposedly they knew better than everyone else what worked and what didn’t…at least that is what their college professors told them…

However down at the street level things never really looked like these sociologists said they would.

Witness the End

Actually, the Nazis were a left wing socialist party.

Tim

a national socialist party…big difference

also Privitized profits and social losses are facism at its finest and thats what is happening right now with the banks!

kwark

It’s true but don’t be too quick to blame just “the politicians”. Better look alot closer to home because the fact is many Americans are HAPPY with these draconian laws. They don’t want “worthless” homeless people panhandling where they walk, park, shop, dine and so on. Several of my neighbors, retired and comfortable in our quiet suburban neighborhood, have this opinion. So I don’t blame the politicians for doing what many of their constituents want, I blame them for not having the courage to tell their constituents how severe the problem is. But then most Americans don’t want to hear the truth about how decrepit our country truly is.

rancher

So others are not free to have their opinions of this. Must they be like you to be …worthy?

The politicians do not want them in their neighborhoods either and they are very aware of the problems.

Our Govt steals huge amounts of taxes from us working people and rather than helping our own they give it to other nations. They even are trying to give hundreds of thousands of tons of food to north Korea for not firing a missile and some other stupid reasons. This stuff is flown right over the heads of our homeless to feed others around the world…go figure that one out??

Then they say to the working folks we still need to help take care of our fellow citizens with charity… funny I thought I just did that?

As far as I am concern the Govt is the problem. They have my resources (taxes) taken from me and refuse to help our own citizens here. They want to help others instead. Thus I wash my hands of this issue as we have donated endless taxes (by threat of prison time)to this problem. Let the homeless rise up and confront the Govt and resolve this problem.

I live out in the countryside to get away from people…homeless or working. To survive out here one must work or die. No one panhandles on this dead end dirt road either… real low rate of return. Besides that we have some really large wolves out here and I spotted one the other night on our Ranch. One was shot nearby (breaks my freaking heart) (not really) and it was 180 pounds at the F&G Dept.

I feel I have the right to pursue peace and happiness in the Constitution and I try to pursue that by avoiding most masses of mindless, brain washed and entitlement thinking humanity….

mark

Government payments are not charity. It is theft and bribes for votes. Charity is an act that you choose to give to another in need. There is a big difference.

Rain23

So, let’s see. People lying in the street who are literally starving to death is more unsightly than a soup kitchen with people in line for food? Food handed out by a church group is less sanitary and nutritious than eating out of Dumpsters and scraping fries off the pavement of a fast food parking lot?

More laws by people who’ve never been there. When you’re honestly hungry, as in it’s 5 p.m. and your meal for the day was half an Egg McMuffin someone tossed out, you don’t care about the nutritional value of the food. You’re not going to look at your tray or sack and say “I think this is too high fat and too many carbs.” Cause you’re gonna pass out and maybe die if you don’t get your calories above 600 a day somehow, especially if you keep getting rousted every time you sit down and have to keep walking.

Why don’t the city officials who pass these laws just pass one to shoot anyone you suspect of being homeless in the head if they don’t want them cluttering up the rose-colored view of your city. It’s so much more humane than pretending “someone” will take care of them conveniently out of your sight. Because nobody does, and then they end up in the emergency room at the County and you’re paying far more than if you had shown a little common decency. That’s not only sinfully cruel, it’s downright stupid.

If you don’t want people gathering in public places to be fed, then you need to let the churches and private individuals who are willing show charity in their own facilities without all these regulations. I think most of us, no matter how tight our budgets are, would let someone have a cup of ramen noodles or a sandwich and sit in a chair or on a lawn to eat it, if only because we can imagine how we could end up in that same seat ourselves.

Gary3

Good point about emergency rooms. How much does the city save if they all show up at an emergency room with their “illness” turning out to be hunger? The troublemaker bums muddy the waters for anybody who is down and out.

Any of us here could end up being homeless (One can only hope that Bloomberg does). Walk a mile in their shoes.

justamom

Good post, rain23—insightful and right on target.
I live in a small town and attend a small church. Five years ago we opened a soup kitchen at lunchtime on Wednesdays using our church kitchen. In the beginning we had lots of homeless, but now over time we have been able to help these folks find adequate housing. Some have moved on, but some have stayed with us and are now a part of our church. We still have the poor, but none who are homeless. Other churches in our area have similar programs, and all together we are making a difference in our community. All it takes is a vision, compassion, a little money, and some work—well worth the investment.

DaytoDay

I couldn’t have said it better!

http://www.impcalgi.com IMPCALGI

This is just as much an attack against us as it is against the homeless. TPTB want to control every aspect of our lives, from the type of light bulbs we use to whether we can give a hungry man some food. Well guess what: I AM GOING TO HELP PEOPLE ANYWAY. And I don’t give a frog’s fat rear end what anyone thinks about it.

Go ahead, I dare them to put me in jail because I give some down on his luck hobo a McDonalds gift certificate

Tatiana Covington

Then simply break them. There’s way more of you than of politicians, whom you don’t need. They’re just a bunch of people.

You’re perfectly able to govern yourself.

Paranoid

Feeding them to what?

http://yahoo.com richard swank

I AM SURPRISED NO ONE MENTIONED SENATE BILL 510 EVEN THE GOVENMENT IS IN ON THE ACT. IF YOU NEVER HEARD OF IT GOOGLE IT. IT WILL SCARE YOU.

Does this help change the subject of deficet spending?
Acting like they are solving problems, not doing anything?

http://none bad brian from grass valley

We have to be usfull to them who think they own the Earth. If not, they want us dead and they will show no mercy. There is One who sees this as a terrible aberation of the way He created us and He will call them to account. Best we all find ways to show Love to those we can help during this time. As usual I want to thank you and Bless you for your goodness in providing this forum. These unfortunates are our fellow human beings and we might be next.

Craig

Off Topic – Obamacare

Michael very good subject about feeding the homeless. If it is acceptable to you, I want any of your readers to hear what the Lord spoke to me about Obamacare sometime in 2009:

Obamacare:

I want to tell any businessmen who might read this blog what is going to happen with Obamacare. Sometime in 2009 I received a word from the Lord about a question I asked the Lord regarding Obamacare. I simply went to the Lord in prayer beside my bed, and I asked the Lord if this Obamacare would really happen. This was about 2 months before they took the very first vote in the Senate to try and pass it with 60 votes. The Lord spoke to me in a strong way, and He said, “It will pass, but it won’t have any teeth to it”. It was not an audible voice, but it was clearer than an audible voice as the Holy Spirit always is.

I want to tell you that if the Most High God, who is the Father of the Lord Jesus Christ, said, “It won’t have any teeth to it”, that means as a businessman or financial planner, you don’t have to take it into consideration. You can plan along without it ever being a factor.

I know there are a lot of whack job prophetic types out there, and it is hard to know who you are dealing with on the internet. But, I want to give you some of my history so that it might convince you that I really did hear from God. I’ve been a Christian since 1976. Here is a part of my testimony regarding the Holy Spirit working in my life. I have had a very close prayer relationship with the Lord for over 30 years:

In 1981, at the age of 24, I went to take the SAT test at a high school here in Ft. Worth, TX. There was a very cute young lady there that didn’t feel well because she had spent the night before out drinking with her friends. She told the administrator that she wasn’t feeling well enough to take the test. The administrator walked off for just a minute to attend to something else. During that time I prayed so fervently to the Lord, and I prayed that this very important moment in this girl’s life would not be taken from her. The administrator came back and wanted to confirm with the girl that she wasn’t going to take the test. The girl said she was feeling better now, and she would be able to take the test. She finished the whole test. Back then I think the SAT was about a 3 or 4 hour test.

In 1989 when I was about 33, I was driving to a Steven Curtis Chapman concert at a place in Euless, TX called Footloose. It was a Christian entertainment type thing that isn’t there anymore. Anyway, I had been praying for a while to the Lord that I might be able to meet a Latina type woman. I know that may sound weird, but I have always been attracted to petite dark-haired or brunette women. Maybe I just felt inferior dating a “normal” white girl. I guess that had something to do with it. Anyway, when I was about 1 mile from Footloose, the Lord spoke to me (not audibly) as clearly as ever and He asked, “You want a Latina girl?” I’m telling you that’s what He said. I arrived at the concert and took a seat towards the back in the middle section before the concert started. I was sitting by myself. Sometime just before the concert started, I noticed there was this really cute petite Latina type girl sitting next to me on my right. I had been sitting by myself, but the place had begun to really fill up. This girl had the whole Latina look with the blue jeans and bright red shoes and dark hair, etc. She was about 5’1″ tall and probably weighed about 100 lbs. I talked to her off and on during the concert. She was from Nicaragua and her family had just came to the United States during the Contra freedom fighter thing that was happening in Nicaragua during the Reagan Presidency. She thought she didn’t speak good English, but she really spoke good English. She was an adorable girl. She was 21 years old. During the concert this girl kept bumping into me too which I thought was unusual. I know you may think this is funny, but it’s true. When the concert was over I stayed in my seat for a while because I wanted to wait for the crowd to die down before I left, and I also wanted to buy a couple albums. This girl got up to leave with the people she came with. As she was waiting in the line to get out the door, she kept looking over at me like, “you moron aren’t you even going to ask me for my phone number?” Unfortunately I had on my mind what I was going to do in Dallas after I left the concert which was not good. It wasn’t until a while afterward that I actually realized what had happened and what the Lord spoke to me just before I got to the concert that night. The thing is, I wanted to do things my way (illicit) by going to Dallas instead of the Lord’s way which was to start a relationship with this beautiful girl I had met at this concert. She was what I had requested (physically anyway) in prayer, but I was too stupid or whatever to trust the Lord in this situation. I wanted to handle things my way.

Around 1990, I told a 28 year old female friend of mine that if she was really ready to be married, I could have her married in 6 months. She met a guy at a Bible study neither one of them were even planning to go to, and about 6 months later they were married.

In 1995 I was sitting in the back of Calvary Cathedral International church in downtown Ft. Worth, and I prayed as earnestly as ever, “Lord I wish a tornado would come through here and destroy all this”. I prayed that because I believed that the “laughter movement” from when Rodney Howard-Brown was there 3 years ago had just gotten out of control. I don’t question however that it was a very real movement of God and a blessing to the church. Also, the acoustics in that round building were horrible because of so much reverberation. Well, five years later that is what happened. A tornado touched down and stayed over the church for 2.5 minutes. The building was destroyed, but not a single person was hurt. The church was fully staffed at the time. They bought another church about 3 miles away that used to be Midtown Church of Christ.

In 2000, I was at a Wendy’s restaurant in Bellevue, WA. There was much political debate at work about the next president. As I sat there in Oct/2000 with my absentee ballot, I voted for Pat Buchanan which I was planning to do all along. The Lord spoke to me in the most poignant way ever, and He asked, “Are you sure you really want to do that”? Then He showed me that this race would be so tight and so close that we wouldn’t know who the next president would be for days and possibly weeks or months. I wasn’t exactly sure how long the Lord was telling me this would go on–just that as time went on it would become more clear who would win. It was more clear than an audible voice. This is when Bush barely won Florida by about 1,500 votes. It went on for days or weeks about who would be the winner.

In 2001 or 2002 I was about 46 I guess. I had gone for almost a year without the illicit activity in my life. I thought that I was over it, but I still had a problem with internet porn. I went to a TCU football game in Ft. Worth, TX near the time of Thanksgiving. I prayed for a while before I went to the game, and I was praying that the Lord would deliver me from going to the strip places in Ft. Worth where there were drugs and prostitution. As I was praying the Lord spoke to me just as clearly as he had the first time about meeting the Latina girl at Footloose, and He said, “There is someone at the game I want you to meet”. I didn’t know what to think of this, but I didn’t think I had my act together enough to start a relationship. I went to the game. It was a night game and due to being near the holidays there weren’t quite as many people there. TCU was winning and they upset #17 ranked Louisville at that game. There was this girl I had noticed there that was so attractive to me. She was the type of girl that I had told the Lord I would like to have as a wife. Again, I’m talking physical attraction here. You know how shallow us guys are about this. Anyway, this girl was “hot” to use the modern term. At least she was to me, and I thought I wish I could meet somebody like her. I thought for sure this girl had to be married. I never more than glanced at her, and she never saw me looking at her. With about 2 minutes left in the game I moved down to a completely different section of stands near the 10 yard line. I did this because I was making my way out of the stadium and wanted to beat the crowd out a little bit. I was about 4 or 5 rows back in this section of stands and there was NOBODY in this entire section of stands except me. All of the sudden this girl that I had noticed walks down and stands right next to me!! I looked at her, and she kind of awkwardly looked away out of embarrassment I guess. Now, my mind is racing. This time I realize that I am right in the middle of what the Lord told me was going to happen. But I begin to justify in my mind why I can’t have a relationship with this girl. I’m not enough this or that or the other thing. I never opened my mouth and after about a minute or two of her standing there, she went back to hang out with the people she came to the game with. I didn’t talk to her because I can’t talk to women. I have no problem with that or making conversation, etc. I guess I just couldn’t believe that a girl as attractive as this girl was would really like me if she knew who I really was. So guess what? After the game was over I went to the seedy section of Ft. Worth like clockwork.

In 2002 when the snipers were out in Washington, DC a few years ago, I simply went to the Lord in prayer and I asked the Lord if He would reveal to me who was doing the killing. The Lord spoke to me, and He said, “It’s 2 black guys from the Tacoma, WA area and one is a lot older than the other, but they are both under 40″. That’s what the Lord said. I thought about going to the FBI, but since I had this sin problem in my life I was always shy about telling people things the Lord revealed to me. I was afraid I had missed God and would make myself look foolish.

In 2008 or 2009, a couple of years ago before they even took the first vote in the Senate on Obama’s health care bill, the Lord spoke to me about it, and he said, “It will pass, but there won’t be any teeth to it”. The Lord was saying it would pass, but it wouldn’t be enforceable. It failed to get 60 votes in the Senate, and then the democrats lowered the bar for it to pass with 50 votes.

I am reluctant to post a link to my personal testimony as most probably wouldn’t believe it.

Tappedops

Simple rule of thumb… if the gov bans it,run towards it…if the gov likes it, run like heck away from it…

mark

I suppose that a hymn that is my favorite sums up how I feel.Good luck stoping me from practicing my faith. Sorry if it a litte long.

A poor wayfaring Man of grief Hath often crossed me on my way, Who sued so humbly for relief, That I could never answer nay. I had not power to ask his name, where to he went or whence he came;Yet there was something in his eye That won my love; I knew not why.

Once, when my scanty meal was spread, He entered; not a word he spake, Just perishing for want of bread. I gave him all; he blessed it, brake, And ate, but gave me part again. Mine was an angel’s portion then, For while I fed with eager haste, The crust was manna to my taste.

I spied him where a fountain burst clear from the rock; his strength was gone. The heedless water mocked his thirst; He heard it, saw it hurring on. I ran and raised the suffrer up; Thrice from the stream he drained my cup, Dipped and returned it running o’er; I drank and never thirsted more.

Twas night; the floods were out ; it blew, A winter hurricane aloof. I heard his voice abroad and flew, to bid him welcome to my roof. I warmed and clothed and cheered my guest, And laid him on my couch to rest, Then made the earth my bed and seemed, In Eden’s garden while I dreamed.

Stript,wounded,beaten nigh to death, I found him by the highway side. I roused his pulse, brought back his breath, Revived his spirit, and supplied, Wine, oil, refreshment- he was healed. I had myself a wound concealed, But from that hour forgot the smart, And peace bound up my broken heart.

In prison I saw him next, condemned, To meet a traitors doom at morn. The tide of lying tongues I stemmed, And honored him mid shame and scorn. My friendship’s utmost zeal to try, He asked if I for him would die. The flesh was weak; my blood ran chill, But my free spirit cried, ” I will!”

Then in a moment to my view, The stranger started from disguise. The tokens in his hands I knew; The Savior stood before mine eyes, He spake, and my poor name he named, “Of me thou hast not been ashamed. These deeds shall thy memorial be, Fear not, thou didst them unto me.”

http://Www.acceptancetake.com Andrew Fruth

Why can’t the homeless make their own decisions about what to eat? This is so outrageous. I don’t even know what to say. It’s like living in the twilight zone.

mondobeyondo

So we are not (legally) allowed to feed homeless people in many American cities?

What do we do then? Run down to City Hall and apply for a homeless food assistance permit? Gasp!! By the time you read through and fill out the 173 pages of paperwork and government legalese, the homeless people you are trying to help will be dead.

Or do we let them starve to death? Well, maybe that’s fine if you’re in a high-rise skyscraper counting beans and typing in numbers using Microsoft Excel. Must be nice. (Like they’d even care in the first place.) But try walking a mile in another man’s Ferragamos, um, sandals, and it’s a different story. For those who have never been there – it’s not fun going hungry. Your stomach tends to hurt and growl, and you can’t sleep.

What a cold, cruel society we’ve become.

neurosine

If they simply stayed out of it, they wouldn’t need these regulations which are enstated to cover their own ass. The rules and regulations are created for insurance purposes and to protect from litigation as much as they are created to protect anyone. If I wanna give a homeless guy half my sandwich, and he’s hungry and needs half a sandwich…just leave us alone.

Rod F

No one wants to see that *******. Imagine, lets say in Orlando’s case, that you bought a home in downtown Orlando near the city park. Then some ********** sets up a buffet near your house in the park and 50+ homeless people are all hanging around.

They need to allow homeless feeding NOT in city centers, parks, downtown, etc. Why not just, build a farm, and just, let them all run around all day….not in public view. If they are so down on their luck build a facility that local businesses can donate to and they can all come have a basic cot with a few security guys stationed around. Offer some rehabilitation for those who want it. If they find homeless roaming around city centers they can pick them up, and drop them off. Have a bunch of bleeding hearts volunteer to run it.

grandpa

dont feed the animals. Sounds to me theyre trying to accelerate chaos… when it comes to not feeding the animals we will help our fellow man and let the leeches eat the dead…

XYZ

Much ado about nothing. Who needs homeless ppl? Are they benefitial to this society? U’re more retards than I thought.

Colin Pearce

I don’t live in the US and I sincerely don’t want to offend anyone living there, but what a revolting, despicable and heartless place this country has become.

I feel sorry for all the normal people who must endure living in such a morally and financially bankrupt police state.

Momma Dukes

You had better believe that if and when I come across someone that is hungry, I’m going to feed them. I think we should organize homeless parties where “normal” people go to have cook outs. Like parks! Invite them all over for a cook out. After all, they ARE our Brothers and Sisters. Where there is a will, there is a way.

pete

Our city, state and federal governments are all trying to starve people to death in a humanitarian way…….and don’t want do gooders feeding them and keeping them alive.

In a way, I kind of agree. Starve them and let them die………or let them go hungry and see if they have the willpower to get up and do something about it.

I am going to question the sense in providing help to people that are going to avoid remediating their own situation.

As a teenager, I found myself on a bus station bench and without food, money or a job. A cop in Phoenix gave me five bucks and told me I had to clear out of the bus station. I went to a Goodwill store and bought a clean shirt and started walking around looking for a job and got work as a bellhop. Went to school and got on with my life.

I didn’t need sympathy or food, I needed a clean shirt. I took it from there and like Scarlet O’hara, I then spent the next 40 years making sure that never happened again.

A cop that didn’t want to put me in jail for vagrancy helped me save myself. In the end, you have to save yourself….and if you get madder than he-double sticks on the way there, that will help keep you warm.

Lennie Pike

The only thing more sick, crazy, and stupid, is obeying an order coming from a control freak.

The Salvation Army will be outlawed by control freaks soon – I have no doubt about it. The control freaks will claim that type of work is the governments territory and responsibility only. But the real reason the will outlaw organizations like the Salvation Army is that it exists to obey God.

The definition of a Control Freak is someone who lives their life in constant fear. That fear exists due to zero faith or belief in God – a scary world indeed.

So – obey a control freak – a Godless person, and see how far that gets ya.

Vicki

Its obvious they want to kill the homeless people by starving them…….

http://www.youtube.com/thepreparedpastor Prepared Pastor

This is not the case in our small city. There are at least two meals a day from churches and when we have leftovers from the soup kitchen, we drop them off at the homeless shelter. At Christmas shelters had so much food they had to turn away prepared foods because they were out of fridge space.

http://www.conservativemormonmom.blogspot.com Eva

How ridiculous! Again, we need a different president, one more interested in growing the economy than stagnating it with no jobs, houses, gas, or hope.

http://www,Back2theLand.com Old Timer

Many correct observations about the homeless. I want to add my commnent thaqt the bottom line is MONEY

First of all the funding for homeless shelters and subsequent management is a federal funding coupled with state and local matching funds.

If there is a world of compassion for these folks then they are not regimented to the “system” of tally and dole.

I feed two teens. THey get little or nothing at home. When they turn 18 and are turned out, they too will be homeless potentials.

Yes, the major cities are trying to eliminate the “blight:” of panhandlers and scruffy looking homeless. Keep them in shelters. Of course they could be rounded up and put in the Bush-Chasney re-education camps but there is no bus pass yet.

The problem of the city is no employment and poor management. You may always expect – from history – some homelessness, but the growing numbers today can not be fed by the dole, it requires better able citizens to care and help.

I often comment on the food waste at the restaurants where I dine. In NJ the swine market was fed by the restaurant waste. THen there was the issue of health for the pigs. So the animal food industry became richer and food waste was dumped in the landfill.

Remember Spartacus? THe Roman slave revolt. Maybe we might see a new movement.

OT

http://eightshotsandaping.blogspot.com Aaron

This is beyond the pale. I understand (although don’t fully agree with) the conservative mantra of believing that in general, forcible redistribution of wealth isn’t the right way to help the less fortunate. At least that philosophy acknowledges the role of private charity – after all, what you give to others is voluntary without government involvement.
But this is a whole new level of meanness. I don’t believe for one minute that these laws are about food safety or preventing the congregation of undesirables. It has a very dark and sinister tone.
Bloomberg also did something crummy like this a while back – a bunch of fire houses fell victim to austerity measures. Some private money was offered to keep one of them open, and he flat out refused.

rancher

I see no reason salt is not good for the homeless. I say this because here in north Idaho we get a bunch of homeless move in and set up summer camps around the region. They panhandle at intersections in shifts.

Not being the fool so many are to their ways I did a bit of observing and found their buddies back in some bushes smoking cigarettes (expensive and they have no health insurance so I am paying for their sicknesses), the eating from bags of potato and corn chip covered in salt, then having developed a thirst from smoking and drinking the wash it down with cans of beer. A bit later they pee in the same bushes.

Every hour or so they shift around and the guy/gal on the street intersection position panhandling goes back to the bushes and gives the “homeless needing money” sign to another and sits down to partake in the fruits of their spoils from begging. The rested and beer drinking person then moved out of the bushes and takes up the position next to the vehicles at the traffic light….

I observe them walk to a nearby store to purchase more of the same from the money they weaseled out of the folks at the traffic light.

I just thought it might only be fair here to tell some of the rest of the story….

Gary2

hey at least they are stimulating the local economy buy purchasing from the local store. They are also fertlizing the bushes they piss on.

Speaking about pissing on a Bush…

Jodi

This is complete utter madness. Just another example of how heartless people and major cities are becoming. The school district my kids go to throw out left over food instead of feeding the hungry with it. There is a push to change the law, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they won’t change it. Be aware farms are under attack…for some they use to donate fresh food and now there is a crack down on this too. Since when is it a health risk to give out fresh food to people. And Michell Obama wants kids to have access to fresh food. Wow!

S. Wiseman

Politicians have clearly taken leave of their senses. I don’t know how anyone can continue to vote these idiots into office and serve these false gods. I remain deeply disturbed to hear of professing Christians submitting to these “laws” when the one true God has clearly mandated what TRUE Religion is. It is better to serve God rather than MAN.

“The fundamental political question is why do people obey a government. The ‎answer is that they tend to enslave themselves, to let themselves be governed ‎by tyrants. Freedom from servitude comes not from violent action, but from ‎the refusal to serve. Tyrants fall when the people withdraw their support.” ~ ‎Étienne de la Boétie, The Discourse of Voluntary Servitude, written in the ‎‎1550s‎

“Our culture is being manipulated to worship the state. We see the state as a god, with ‎the right to control everything which it chooses. The state is being endowed with ‎powers for controlling the destiny of its human resources -the power of ‎predestination. Our culture teaches us to think of the state as having a natural right ‎to control the education of children for the sake of society, because, after all, the ‎democratic state is the embodiment of society. Our culture teaches us that the state ‎has a compelling interest in its own survival and success. Hence the state must own ‎the children, for the children are the future. Though this doctrine is rarely stated in ‎such explicit terms, it is nevertheless the implicit declaration of virtually all state ‎programs. ‎
The state seeks to be omniscient – to know everything about us;‎
The state seeks to be omnipresent – to be everywhere in our lives;‎
The state seeks to be omnipotent – to control everything in society. ‎
The state is the incarnation of the god of humanism. Man, through the state, has ‎become the measure of all things. The promise of the tempter in the Garden of Eden is ‎at last fulfilled in the socialist state. Man is as a god, determining for himself what is ‎good and evil – measuring everything by his own invented standards, apart from ‎God’s revealed standards.” ‎‎~ From The Transformation of Classical Education: A Biblical Vision for ‎Homeschooling, by Harvey and Laurie Bluedorn, www dot triviumpursuit dot com ‎

In the name of all that is holy and pure, please don’t stop feeding the homeless. Their “law” is a violation of God’s law. Just because something is legal does not mean it is lawful. Your submission to these tyrants makes them more powerful and makes you complicit in your own demise. The State needs you to be dependent on it. It is the only way the State can survive. If they value their positions – and they do – they’ll back down when enough of us say NO.

http://windturbinescost.info Wind Turbines

Shameful and inhuman.

I will continue to carry small packs of peanuts or trail mix on my person, so when I come across a homeless person, I can easily and quickly hand it to him or her.

Maybe the govt will capture the act on surveillence tape and track me down. So I better wear a disguise I reckon.

Jodi

Michael:
You should write an article on new regulations on the farms. These new regulations are scary and will lead to food shortages and hunger.

Michael

Jodi:

That sounds like a very good article. Do you have any places that you would suggest to get started on doing research for that topic?

It doesn’t make much sense to include the New Hampshire woman’s flower garden in this article. Her situation has nothing to do with feeding the homeless, nor with government interference.

Hers is a private business contract dispute. And really, when you buy a condo, you’re only buying the unit itself — you’re explicitly not buying the land around it. You’re making a trade-off — you don’t get the land, but on the other hand, you don’t pay for it either.

Don’t get me wrong — I think the condo association is being not just cold, but also stupid in how they’re handling it. But they’re well within their rights.

As far as “oh, that poor old lady:” maybe other residents bought their condos there exactly because of the uniform exterior appearance. Why should one resident’s desire for a unique exterior trump another’s desire for uniform exteriors?

If you want to buy a condo, or a place in a subdivision that has a mandatory homeowner’s association, don’t do it if it’s more important to you to have control of your home’s external appearance.

Peggy M

There is NO WAY that banning the feeding of homeless people with healthy food can be considered “correct”. If someone is hungry, and another person wants to give them something to eat, NO ONE (city, state or federal “government”) should be able to stop them. (Our “governments” are acting as if we are trying to poison these people, and THAT’S WRONG!!!!!)

liberranter

This is just another example that shows that our country is being taken over by control freaks.

And brainless Amoricons are perfectly happy with that as long as said control freaks are controlling ANYONE ELSE BUT THEM. It’s only when their own ox is gored, which it eventually will be, that they get upset.

http://MoneyedPoliticians.net Jack Lohman

Hard to tell what is really right here. Mixing them in with a self-reliant society seems cruel. I wonder about picking a spot in the country and turning it into a rehabilitation and training center. The homeless just want to live. Let them live here until they get back on their feet, with our help.

Kelby

If you do, I wish those people who go to your rehab good luck trying to fight against rising cost of living prices once they get out! Things are happening so fast, it’s totally scary!

MountainHome

Great article! There is no way to eliminate poverty. It’s been in history from the beginning. It only a matter of what kind of people we are as Americans and whether we want to help the poor by feeding them regardless of their bad luck, mental health or economic woes.

We usually don’t think about helping these people until it hits close to home when it’s a brother or sister or mother or father and that is happening more often nowadays.

Austin Patriot

“Unbelieavble [sic]! Must be the heartless repubes making these rules. They hate the poor.”

Gary2 shows his ignorance, yet again. In the city of Houston, Mayor Annise Parker has implemented these regulations, and she is a “progressive”.

rancher

To quote the news a term “Compassion Fatigue” is showing up all over….

Since I can remember as a young lad my parents started in on us kids about eating everything on our plates because there are starving homeless people in India or some other God forsaken country or region…. or our own country right here.

Trillions of non repaid monies in food/supplies/education and training have been given to these people and still nothing changes.

I have donated time and monies to Church out reach programs and nothing gets resolved… I am taxed to death and nothing changes but it just gets worse.

Even still I am bombarded almost daily with same commercials I saw as a kid about some poor starving child I can help if I just send my money to the advertiser….

After 50 freaking years of no results but just more rampant breeding I am numb to it all. I have a terrible case of “Compassion Fatigue”.

It just becomes more and more clear to me the way we are all going about this just is not working to solve the problem… it just keeps breeding, growing in numbers and consuming yet greater amounts of food/water/meds and fee handouts to enable it all to grow some more.

I am not saying I have the answers but I am saying the means in place are failing.

artisanrox

You can thank your local Republicans for laws like this. This is NOT bad government, this is just bad people.

TX4Life

My college student had some good questions–how will this be enforced? Are the enforcers going to profile who’s homeless based on their looks? What if you and your friend are in one of these cities and your friend appears homeless based on how they are dressed? If you hand your friend a sandwich, are you going to be fined or taken into custody?

Desert Chick

I’ve got news for these gubmint pukes and am putting them on notice, right here and now. In the past I have given down and out people money for food (whether they actually used it for food is on them, not me), and I will continue to do this. So, gubmint, are ya gonna send one of your idiot SWAT teams after me, because, now, I am obviously Al Queda for saying this?

http://wp.me/2ilWI Shannon

HAHA yeah, you actually are considered a terrorist in this country because you’re handing out cash. Why are you using cash? Are you evading a paper trail? TERRORIST! Things are out of control in this world… wtf is wrong with us?

mondobeyondo

Oh my, you are helping homeless people? You are obviously a terrorist. Be careful, the FBI might put you on a watch list. And me, too. I help the less fortunate as much as I can.

(p.s. I don’t have any bombs.)

aeroinurei

Wow! I guess I’m a terrorist, too, since I give to the poor Oh, and I spent ten years in the military *******************, so come get me!! Shame on our society!!!

Diane C

Could it be that the FED’s don’t want people seeing the homeless that they have made in this country? Look at the “great depression” with soup lines everywhere. The world knew they were in a depression. However, if this current goverment wants to get reelected, he is going to do everything in his power and lies to promote the “everything is OK” line. Oh yes, we are doing so much better according to Obama!

mackie

What “theY” [corperations and their controled puppets the government] want is the death of ALL the poor! Their new laws of total control is the evidence. What are the safe foods? The GMO’s gentically mutated crops? The foods sprayed with the oh so good chemicals such as pesticides, herbacides, and others which will cause cancers. Or meats fully of hormones and steroids and antibiofics. Or how about foods that can be irradiated so that the body will not be able to absorb it. Hmmm. Sounds like a conspiracy to me from these ELITES to control and get rid of the ‘useless eaters’ of society. Are God given rights are now priveledges? Who do these controler answer to? No one but themselves. It’s awful that these rich 5% of the worlds population controls the 95% with rules and laws to benift themselves, and are passed without word to the public. Why? Because if we would know about them, maybe we would revolt against it.

cmc

Amen. Ridiculous. I’ve had enough “Hope and Change”. I recently received a hefty citation for giving someone a sandwich in my city;ah, yes, it was back when the first family was enjoying their $4 million Christmas vacation. (Remember when they said Americans needed to tighten our collective belts?) Then they roll out the NDAA on New Years Eve when nobody is looking.

We are being taken for a ride and losing our liberties along the way.

Kathy Mitro

can I ask what city it’s important we can’t just pretend it’s not happening

angelp

I agree they are planning to eradicate them. If you do not eat, then you die. That is the ONLY logical reason that I can think of, why you can’t the homeless food. They want them dead. All these laws are getting ridiculous! They are meant to help us?? Right… There is no common sense here. These people are stupid that are making these laws. If they are meant to help us because of “Wrong doers” or “Weirdos” I have a news flash for them. Weirdos and Wrong doers will continue REGARDLESS of these laws!!!! It is so frustrating! I think they are just a bunch of control freaks, who only worry about themselves, and they may be book smart, but have 0% of Common Sense. The Government is afraid of what the poor might be given to eat? But yet, not feeding them at all is better for them???? NO FOOD = You Die, there is no Logic here, unless it is for sinister purposes. Pure EVIL.

Chris

Yes I’m afraid shocking though it will be to many I suspect the reasoning behind this is actually because they want these people to die off and stop being an embarrassment/ stop showing people that there is a down side to unrestricted capitalism/crony capitalism.

lodermulch

way to go, america
irritating homeless ppl? ja, it’s worse than the plague.

here, install some of these – we use ‘em in
germany against pigeons, but i bet you can jury-rig them to work against an infestation of homeless, too.

greetings from the 3rd to the 4th reich – see ya, guys. you’re worthy of our inheritance, all of you.

http://www.youtube.com/user/TRK387 trk387

There is a simple explanation to this and it is a FACT. The GOV me as whole, cities, states, etc, are ERADICATING the weak, (homeless) (unemployed) (the once middle class) it is GENOCIDE clear and simple. If you see people that need help and its within your power to help, but, you seek to CUT OFF any aide, stop any aide, come against any aide, create laws to stop others from providing aide, what else can it be? There is only ONE logical solution is there not? THEY want these people to DIE. Life must be sustained, if life is left to waste, then there is only death in it’s conclusion.

Kathy Mitro

You are absolutely right how ever shocking it is to hear. this is another holocaust but this time the victims are the homeless.

http://www.youtube.com/user/TRK387 trk387

Take the long term unemployed 99’ers the US Senate, house of reps, and the President has again and again reinstated unemployment benefits up to 99 weeks. ANY person unemployed past this time is on their own. There is NO aide, no bills, NOTHING to aide these people. Now these people the 99’ers are predominantly MIDDLE CLASS, destroyed by the great recession of 08. NOW the middle class was once poor correct? They rose up from poverty and made something of themselves. Small business owners, executives, doctors, lawyers, if THEY gave aide to these people that have been reduced to poverty once again what would happen? They would RISE UP again and become middle class!!! But, the Gov design is to DESTROY the middle class (the only barrier between the rich and poor), so that when the min wage is abolished, these EDUCATED people will be forced to work for 4.00 an hr! and those jobs overseas, will return back here! its already happening, but the flip side. India is outsourcing its jobs here to the states. The ones that survive that is.

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i was homeless in sac ca for over 5 years sleeping in tents behind buildings and in abandoned house .there was a group of us and we collected more everyday it was so cold in the winter and i was starving alot ..i ended up pregnate sleeping on the stairs of a church till i was 8and a half months pregnate .if it wernt for people feeding me and helping me i would have died or at least my baby would have .. thanks to people helping me. my son is 1 year old today and living with me in bishop gallegos maternity home for wemon.. everthing here includeing the other 2 house was givin to homeless wemon and there babys ..we all need help mabey not in the way of food but that is one thing we cant live without. i use to think if they hate us so much why dont they just kill us if they refuse to help us .. well it seems they really are now.. it is insane the goverment should be ashmed ..one day they will all answer to their maker .. so sad .

Paul

I knew it. Nutters all over the US.

Reminds me of the law that prohibits people from using rainwater, because some company has the water rights in that area.

Or the other law that prohibits the drying of laundry outdoors, because it is unsightly.

mondobeyondo

Yeah, why not make it illegal to grow roses in your front yard? Certain citizens may find the odor of rose blossoms offensive, they attract bees, and give off pollen, which is a health hazard to those suffering from allergies.

Dig ‘em up, move ‘em out…

Paul

Well, in UK you won’t find litter bins on railway stations, because somebody could hide a bomb in there.

So if you want to get rid of rubbish, just leave it where you don’t need it anymore, because all these announcements announce:

“unaccompanied parcels will be removed without further warning”.

Might be useful if they introduce rubbish collection fees.

David21

I can see some of the reasons behind these laws. There are a lot of weirdos out there. Remember the Tylenol business? Someone bought some bottles of Tylenol capsules and injected cyanide into some capsules. Then they put the bottles back on the shelves. People died. I can see the purpose of the laws in NYC. Some other cities are just being selfish.

prepply

The laws are almost always reasonable. It is the timing and implementation that is suspicious… Of course we don’t want people poisoned. But have you heard of any problems where homeless people have been poisoned by one of these programs? It is not a problem we are facing. Thus, the law has a different purpose. The purpose being that we don’t want to see a mass of homeless people near the city, or we don’t want a mass attracted to this spot everyday, etc. Very callous to consider the sight of homeless a problem instead of the fact that here are people in need.

angelp

The only probelm is… Is that weirdos are going to still be weirdos, no matter what law is in effect. All these laws end up affecting those who are actually sane and in their right minds. Weirdos don’t care, they do what they want regardless.

Paul

When I am poor and I die, I want to die in some government office without identification on me.

So they can’t put the costs of my disposal to my friends and family.

Best would be to die in some aircon duct. And let the smell of my decomposing body waft through the building.

“Best would be to die in some air conduct. And let the smell of my decomposing body waft through the building.” Then you should pick a good building first, of course.

How about Capitol Hill?

Oh no, they won’t smell a decomposing body there, because of all the hidden corpses in the cabinets.

How about the Pentagon?

Oh no, they won’t smell a decomposing body there, because of all the foreign war body bags and the blood on their hands.

How about the White House?

Oh no, they won’t smell a decomposing body there, because there they don’t have any senses.

mondobeyondo

There’s already lots of skeletons in those Capitol Hill, Pentagon and White House closets. One more decomposing body won’t matter much.

Kathy Mitro

Due to the explosion of anti feeding and anti food sharing laws the group Food Not Bombs is organizing a Day of Compassion to be held on Sunday April 1, 2012, called FOOD IS A RIGHT NOT A PRIVILEGE.
This day’s purpose is to bring to the general public’s awareness of many many food sharing prohibition laws that because they are little known are proliferating at an incredible rate.
The purpose of these laws are said to protect starving people from bad food but are an little disguised attempt to drive the homeless out of each town towards food These laws are destroying people and causing them to suffer incredibly.
We are interested in media attention as this is our main purpose of this day Keith McHenry a co-sponsor of this day has spent a total of 2 years in jail for feeding the hungry and faced up to 25 years for this same charge. Keith was also among the group arrested in Orlando Florida for feeding small hungry children.

Since then the laws are becoming even tougher with Texas and Florida being among the toughest.
I myself have been threatened with fine and arrest if I continued to pass out pre-made packaged sandwiches to the hungry.
Both Mr McHenry and myself are available at any time for any type of media exposure internet, newspaper television. We can be contacted at numbers below.
We hope very much to hear from you soon.
Keith McHenry keith@foodnotbombs.net
Kathy Mitro kathymitro@yahoo.com

MiyoDebbie143

They should put these political idiots in the streets and not feed them. This is too sad.

Barn Cat

The homeless are still served by the Salvation Army. More of the money given to them goes to help the needy than almost any other charity. It’s not like the left-wing environmental groups that spend most of their money giving lavish parties to their biggest donors.

hipshotpercusion

Barn Cat….I agree wholeheartedly. The Salvation Army is the only charity I give to. Many of their top people work for little, or nothing, and are Amateur Radio Operators(as am I)the original first responders and volunteers.

mondobeyondo

Just a matter of time before the Red Cross and Salvation Army are declared “terrorist organizations” and a front for al-Qaeda. Ugh! If things EVER get to that point, it’s too late to leave.

Chris M

Yeah, just a pity they have a history of turning away gay and transgender people, who make up a disproportionate number of homeless people…

Philip B

I don’t like the way they try to convert you, but that’s all religious organizations…

Kyriakos

So, it is time for YOUR Revolution! Send these sick bastards straight to hell… then you may become again the land of freedom, because at the moment you are the land of evil…

Here in Greece, if a politician dear to do something like that, he will have no future at all. He is finished as a politician… Don’t here what the told you in the news. The majority of Greeks are still very tough people to be ruled by anyone… and we will continue like this, no matter what.

Democracy is freedom, not just “rules”. Any rule must be accepted by the majority of the people!
You must understand the real meaning of democracy… They are here to serve us! The politician is nothing more than the servant of the people! The opposite is called dictatorship and tyranny.

It is very important to stay human beings, otherwise its better to disappear from the planet!
Homeless people are our brothers and sisters, they are not rubbish!

dale

If I have someone over to my house and feed them is that against the law if I don’t get a permit?

TX4Life

There was some discussion in Houston about how this might affect people having potlucks at work.

Kathy Smith

Another perfect example of what is happening to our country since we (not all) turned our backs on GOD. He is our only salvation.

steve Boomerviln

you are a moron.. it had nothing to do with turning out backs on imaginary friend. Do you have any idea how silly you sound to intelligent people?

Ordinarium

Imagine if people started not working, who’s gonna make sure these laws come into effect? Not me. You’d think people would use common sense but no lets try and play hardball with these lawmakers… For what? To say oh great idea but we are hungry for money lets bleed our citizens dry… Thanks prez what a help.

hipshotpercusion

I just heard a wonderful idea on “the Whatever Happened” show on RBN. Instead of giving the homeless food, give them gift certificates from local fast food places., or small mom and pop diners. What can the Cossacks do about that?

jodi

I am really ticked off. The Government are freaking crazy ass Nazis.its the same in Canada. We need all sorts of permits etc to have lunch teams in Surrey BC in order to feed the homeless. And not just the homeless there are people that have a home but can’t pay rent bills and food. Heartless Anti-Christ Government.

ShallBee

Why doesn’t someone set up a program where anyone can sponsor a homeless person, so they can have their own money and buy their own food and help them get off the streets. We put invest money and time with 3rd world people and organizations, why don’t we put this effort into our own backyard?

prepply

Great article. Our government should be providing for those people who have no food, not creating laws to prevent them from being seen publicly in cities (and prevent them from being fed.)
These laws should be repealed. It is likely that this year the homeless rate will rise for those whose options have slowly run out over the last several years. Now is not the time to try and sweep the problems under the rug!

really

I think a lot of you need to re read the artical. Sooner or later the ppl of the USA will have enough or just get tired and leave the country, to a place with less rules,laws and regulations. Cause so far we really are not free, free to do what they say. Every new thing thought up becomes licenced,regulated, then you have to go to college for to do it. There’s so many new rules everyday. I would love to see the library of just rules, laws, and regulation. Then to go back and see how stupid are country government has been threw the years, and how many ppl that suffered due to them. Are government is just ppl that have big heads who make more laws for everyone to follow. Were puppets on a string.

Brian

WOW, just incredible. Ban feeding people? That has got to be the most idiotic thing ever!!

mondobeyondo

Well, for the “kill the homeless” crowd… umm.

You lose your well paying job.
Your wife (or husband) loses their job.
Next morning, you wake up in a cold sweat, realizing you are utterly and completely screwed.

Your children didn’t lose their jobs. They never had jobs.
They are in middle school. They can’t work yet.

And now you are homeless. Should the more fortunate kill you, then?

—————–

As some of you know (maybe ALL of you know), you have to pay rent or a mortgage to live in an apartment or house.

Electricity, water and gas are nice things to have. Those are not life or death items, but certainly makes life more comfortable. Got to pay for those, too.

At some point in time, you will have to eat. What will you eat? Depends on how much money you have. Some will eat ribeye steak. Others, bean sprouts, salad and Spam.

Well now! You end up in a 1992 Chevy SUV (kids in the back, you and your wife, or husband, in the front seat) – wondering how you’ll make it through the next 24 hours. Good luck!

Philip B

You have an SUV??? You must be rich!!! Try being homeless with a family and WITHOUT a car!!!

OH

This is exactly the kind of thing Jesus was talking about, when He said that hating the poor can get you sent to Hell to be burned alive for eternity.

The mayor of Philadelphia will definitely get burned alive for eternity, read your Bible “Christians”.

http://www.youtube.com/user/TRK387 trk387

I have been on my own since 13 I know what its like to be homeless, sleeping in the street. Peoples hallways, but I have to say I worked, I held down two jobs while going to HS during the day. I worked all night and went to school during the day.

Child of God

I don’t care what any city or government says. I answer to God. I will feed any homeless and hungry person I see. I cannot understand how the ‘food distribution’ is claimed to be unsafe, considering alot of these poor souls try to find something to eat from dumpsters! I get so cross when I see the amount of food that is almost to its sell by date, thrown out by large food stores. All these ‘big wigs’ will have to stand before God one day and give an account of their heartless actions.

Troy

This is sick. Whoever is voting for or imposing this Ban no matter their rank,status or title in society are heartless, cruel, merciless , murderous ,cold and just downright wicked. If these people who voted for or imposed this ban are guardians over any children, the children should be taken away immediately for fear those said children would come to harm from such people. When will these officials realize this is not nazi Germany, this is not Russia, this is not ancient Rome or England….. This is America!!. I really hope that people will not follow or obey this ban. I hope people keep feeding the hungry and the homeless.

4. Private persons are not allowed to grow their own food in their garden the way they wish.

Consequence: citizens must buy at the supermarket or restaurants.

I guess the idea is to control the food chain and make both citizens and farmers completely dependent on the government and the big agro-food companies.

And you know the saying: you won’t bite the hand that feeds you.

The Romans knew that already: panem et circenses. Bread and games. Give the people bread and games and you will control them.

Alan8

Another day, another corporate outrage.

Wake up, people! These outrages have BIPARTISAN SUPPORT!

The Green Party is the non-corporate alternative. Vote Green to send a message to the corporate parties that selling out non-wealthy will cost them votes.

VOTE GREEN!

JackieG

The reason feeding the homeless is banned is because Obama has signed on at the U.N. for access to SDR’s (Special Drawing Rights)to feed, provide health care and clothe the homeless and illegal immigrants.
You do not want to get caught muscling in on Obama’s action now…do you?

Mad Max

Our government wants to hide it’s failure to solve problems. It wants to hide the fact that it isn’t capable of taking care of it’s own people. And that’s the primary purpose of government. They know and we know our government is totally dysfunctional.

Wake up people – It’s only going to get worse because the people allow it.

This is how we “get the government off the backs of the people”? Many of the same people promoting these laws would also tell you they are in favor of smaller government. Right.

AffinityNetNews

Soon, anyone found unemployed, homeless and starving will be considered a terrorist by these sick twisted bastards.

To call these monsters “Nazis”, is actually valid. After WWII, tens-of-thousands of top 3rd Reich Nazis came to America thru the Vatican rat-lines, and were funded by Martin Bormann, Hitler’s 2nd in charge and our own criminal elite to infiltrate America and begin to reorganize to foment the 4th Reich.

The word: “Reich” means “Empire” however, when used with a lowercase “r” the word “reich” means; “rich” or “wealthy” So, with that said: “Reich” could mean; “Empire of the Wealthy”.

So, if we are “The Empire of the Wealthy”, who needs the poor?

They came for the Jews, but I wasn’t a Jew – they came for Unionists but I wasn’t a Unionist – They came for the unemployed but I wasn’t unemployed – they came for the hungry …..

I would urge everyone to read: The Rise Of The 4th Reich, By Jim Marrs

mondobeyondo

Psycho American Government, circa 2045 (if this country even makes it that far):

One day, all American citizens will be declared “terrorists” by the government. They will then detain all American citizens, because they are an “internal threat” to the government. Anyone with a Social Security number will be subject to questioning and possible imprisonment.

Hopefully I will not be around to see that day.

Katt

So what are we, as Americans going to do about it all? We can all sit here on posts and forums, FAQ’s and blogs….are we going to get out there and fight back or are we just all gonna sit and chat about it with our fancy laptops, coffee mugs and iPods? I am going to feed someone and start making a difference a little bit a day…the Politicians are getting away with what they are getting away with because us Americans have allowed it. We sit back and wait for “someone else to do it….” Its everyone’s responsibility……..

Todd Foster

Perhaps this will aid our efforts.

Not for nothing but this really is under my skin…This is totally un constitutional. Read the preamble of our constitution.Never mind here it is…
The Constitution of the United States
Preamble
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish
Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the
general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do
ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

What part of the general welfare do these laws serve?
I submit…they are not legal.

Gary2

Tax the rich and spread the wealth. No one needs to be homeless.

Tax the greedy to help the needy!

Philip B

Steal from the rich and give to the poor!!!

Where’s Robin Hood when you need him??

ROBIN HOOD FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!

knightowl77

I think Robin Hood actually stole the taxes that Prince John had collected from the poor and gave the money back….Steal from the Gov’t and take YOUR money back

to hell with this rule the govts of these cities are in denial that homeless exisit america will one day will be a sesspool I hope those who are exteremely rich will someday be poor themseleves america is for the rich not for the pepole and all pepeole only those with incomes with 50k plus

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Yes Let’s rush to the aid of the world but “We have nothing wrong in our own backyards.” “Move along folks Nothing to see here.” And the sheep say Ba-Baaaaa. lastly here will live in a country where we don’t have any homeless vets or homeless sleeping in doorways. and maybe they fought for your freedoms and now no one fights for them!

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Let your﻿ hearts melt before The Holy Fire!…
Embrace My Purifying Flame.
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Scott W. Spears

Psalm 12: 1Help, LORD; for the godly man ceaseth; for the faithful fail from among the children of men. 2They speak vanity every one with his neighbour: with flattering lips and with a double heart do they speak. 3The LORD shall cut off all flattering lips, and the tongue that speaketh proud things: 4Who have said, With our tongue will we prevail; our lips are our own: who is lord over us? 5For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy, now will I arise, saith the LORD; I will set him in safety from him that puffeth at him.

Isaiah 3: 12As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths. 13The LORD standeth up to plead, and standeth to judge the people. 14The LORD will enter into judgment with the ancients of his people, and the princes thereof: for ye have eaten up the vineyard; the spoil of the poor is in your houses. 15What mean ye that ye beat my people to pieces, and grind the faces of the poor? saith the Lord GOD of hosts.

Ezekiel 16: 49Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. 50And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.

Revelation 18:20Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her. 21And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. 22And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee; 23And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. 24And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Chris

I live and work in NY it’s pretty simple to donate food to the homeless. I just give them part of my lunch whether it be an apple half a sandwich whatever. It’s better than giving money and then not knowing what it gets used for. And as you see it’s an unbelievable hassle to actually donate food legally in NYC

Todd Foster

Not for nothing but this really is under my skin…This is totally un constitutional. Read the preamble of our constitution.Never mind here it is…
The Constitution of the United States
Preamble
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish
Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the
general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do
ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

What part of the general welfare do these laws serve?
I submit…they are not legal.

http://facebook Sandra

I would feed anyways. I guess those laws are passed by persons who have no idea what its like to go hungry. Occassionally I load up my big electric roasting pan and set up downtown & make chicken soup & hand oyt to whoever comes by. There are a lot of homeless where I live. U never know that 1 bowl of soup can save a life or make that person change his ways for the better. And u never know when Jesus may come by looking for something to eat.

TX4Life

Amen!! And bless you for what you do.

Canadiangirl

If everyone rebelled together and fed the homeless (shamelessly…lol) the bureaucrats wouldn’t be able to keep up with the overload that would create. Don’t pay the fines and be willing to go to jail. How many people can they hold in jail? Do you think they would go so far as to starve all the people in jails too? Now that would not be a good political move….maybe. The rest of the world is watching. Good will overpower these dark ‘laws’.

Bill

Great article, sad situation. Best Idea—invite someone to your table!

homelessinmymind

Why don’t we just take the homeless out to a cremation center and have the S.S. shoot them that would take care of the goverment’s problem, then anyone over 62 yrs of age execute them unless your in the goverment.Any one on disibility or ssi take them out also, if your not a benifit to the country despose of them quickly.

Kate

I have news for the government. If I see a homeless, hungry person I WILL give them food and water – I answer to God, not the government!

Ann

please vote for Ron Paul to end this insanity! Thank you and God Bless!

Maxx

I carry 20 dollar Wal Mart gift cards and hand them out when I encounter such a down-and-outer. It’s not money (for more drugs), and it’s not food, but an easy way for the down-and-outer to get food. It seems to be working very well for all parties concerned. Haven’t had one refuse a card.

Good evening.

Philip B

Wal-Mart is evil….

Stephen

TIME TO MOVE TO BANGKOK………..

The USA is not a good place anymore

really

WALL Street PIG BULLS get all the want and
now homeless people get nothing ??

Oh, but I JUST FOUND out that stocks are
going to collapse…..SOON……

Stephen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

http://benarnold4u.webs.com BenArnold4u

Actually just giving them food isn’t the true definition of charity. That’s why America is in the mess it’s in. They believe that hand-outs and government programs funded by their faithful taxes is enough. They believe that their rich people investing in Africa and other charities is enough. Well I ask you this: are there still homeless in spite of all these things? YES. A help up isn’t even enough. True charity is when a man or woman is put on the same level as you with all that you have. When they have the same of everything that you have, that’s charity. When America starts doing that, for their own people, and perhaps maybe even for others, that’s when the hearts and power of their enemies foreign and domestic, citizen and politician, corporate and elite, will be changed and spare America. -BenArnold4u

http://www.peacefulnoncompliance.com Peaceful Non Compliance

So if Jesus had lived in America the feeding of the 5,000 would have been a felony?

Philip B

He was a criminal then, he would be a criminal NOW…at least, according to “Christians”….

Doug

Human beings are pigeons now – great.

Michael D Rizer

Some times when we try to cover up things and hide things. And try to make things go away. All we do is make things worse. But then what would i know haveing been homeless at one time

Gary2

And yet another study showing conservatives to be dumb.

Don’t Drink and Vote: New Study Says Alcohol (And General Thoughtlessness) Makes People More Conservative

Getting drunk is known to cause erratic, irrational, and, overall, thoughtless behavior — public urination, bar fights, tears in the streets. Now, go ahead and add political conservatism to that list.

A new study, published in the Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, tested whether low-effort thought promotes political conservatism, and part of the study measured alcohol’s effects on political positions. Researchers found that the higher the blood alcohol content, the more conservative the views on sex, education, and political identification became.

Researchers hypothesized that drinking turns people Republican because political conservatism arises in the absence of deliberate thought. People with a lot on their minds, under time constraints, or told to respond in a cursory manner, rather than think deeply and use “recognition memory — an indicator of effortful thought — were also more conservative.

“Together these data suggest that political conservatism may be a process consequence of low-effort thought,” the study concluded.

The less you think (or more you drink), the more conservative you become? Shocker! Cheers to the right-wing.

Vicky

I’ve been reading most of the coments and I’m surprised from some coments, specially from Europe. Why? When I heard “spread the wealth and change”, it took me back to a similar speach I heard in 1960. I was 8 years old and I still remember. I’ve been living in this country since 1965 and what I see now freaks me out because the American people are sleeping, looking the other way. So, if anyone out there know which country I am talking about, you lived there. Was supposed to be better for the people in the island, yeah right! Communism is just a way to cover up the reality of what it is, Feudalism.

jules

There is a very large gap, with many other more socially minded structures of political system, betweem Communism and the Capitalism that is practised in the US. Europeans say share the wealth because alot of the citizens of Europe are appalled at the lack of government social support(health, housing, education) in the States compared to what in many European countries are expected human rights. I do agree that the American people are asleep, they´ve been allowing their rights to be taken away for a long time and it´s getting worse. I only hope with the economy and Capitalism as it is, Europe doesn´t follow too quickly behind the States.

David

Communism and Capitalism both have big problems with them! How about some common sense, permits do not fix anything, just because you have one does not mean you are following it, hire more cops and make sure they are helping common folks if they see people making a mess they can tell them to clean it up or else and they can tell people where they can learn to do things right, to bad we as a nation have gotten so far from common sense that we should reteach the values of truth, freedom, and love they are all about knowing, choosing, and caring of the relationships of our lifes and getting them right.

wane

Absolute insanity…bureaucrats gone wild…This is true evil..the exact opposite of common decency…so that have made compassion for your fellow man a crime…..Big government in this country has truly turned tyrannical..all moral men must rise up and protest this depravity…Who is John Galt?

Nancy Bisset

You sparked my interest wane; I looked up who John Galt was; and this is same information in his speech he read when he intruded the TV station and took 3 hours to read the speech of 60 pages. Now this quote from that speech “Force is the great end that has no place in a rational world. One may never force another human to act against his/her judgement.” Now these bureaucratics want to tell us we must pay a fee to get a permit to serve a ‘Homeless BEing’ food; or they will use force against us to stop us from our choice of choosing to feed the hungry.Thanks for adding “Who is John Galt? It is you and me, joe blow wanting to make our own choice to feed the poor and hurting.” Love and Peace to you wane. Nancy

Ethel

Don’t know what John Galt has to do with this subject, but he was in charge of the Canada Company and responsible for enticing settlers to Upper Canada (Ontario) in the 1820’s and 30’s. My ancestors are among those pioneer settlers who cleared the land and built the roads, schools, churches, etc . I’m sure that they helped each other with “unapproved food”. They didn’t need the goverment to tell them what was good for them.

And Europe helped and still helping that government. I feel for the homeless and probably due to the economy, that’s supposed to be “better” according to our dear and considered president. I heard someone saying that “each country is getting exactly what it deserves”. So, be thankfull for those who voted for “CHANGE”. Envy is a sin…..

Bob

The government really cares about the poor.

Dalakay

What government? Not the US. Alot of the homeless are mentally ill, and were tuned out of hospitals, because the government, would/could, no longer foot the bill. Solution, kick ‘em to the curb!

T

Funny the ***************** mayor says feeding the homeless lacks dignity. Feeding a homeless person is the best thing you can do for them and is a humble act. What do these know it all mayors propose? Most of the cities listed will probably be filing bankruptcy and couldn’t do crap for homeless people. So they want to ban the citizens from helping. It seems like they are saying homelessness is a government issue and if we can’t help then tough luck. I guess these mayors support panhandling for beer money.

Glen

How cold & heartless! Let’s give these people the choice of eating something fresh from a stranger, eat rotting food out of trash bin, or to stavre to death & we’ll see which they pick. We are allowed to feed starving animals but not humans. Gee! The answer to not having enough jobs, shelters, mental health care centers, & etc is too starve people to death. Do they think about there being homeless families out there so they are starving children too? Or do they not care? Such a cold, heartless, me me world!

mondobeyondo

Some people are far more compassionate about their dogs and cats, than about their fellow human beings. Watch the pet food TV commercials that cater to that crowd. Tender Vittles or Mighty Dog or 9 Lives or whatever, with REAL BEEF and REAL FISH! The cats and dogs are eating better than some people are.

Dan Long

I’m not about to let any government infringe on my religious beliefs. If they are needy, I will share. I am commanded to do so by a higher power than the ones you folks have elected.

Marcin R

Amen.
God bless you!

George D’Range

The way I see it, they’re just handing us new forms of civil disobedience to practice.

Jesse T

Pretty soon it’s going to become illegal to try and save someones life. “************! He’s choking! Someone help!” – “Sorry maam, but I don’t have a government permit to do that.” Stop the communist!

David Ashton

Stop the communist!?? This isn’t Communism you dingbat, it’s Capitalism.

It’s about the refusal to recognise the problem and a heartless indifference.

mark

Sorry to tell you David that your support of communism shows who is a dingbat. Communism has never worked and never will. Man needs to have freedom and under communuism you have none. You elites just want to control everything and anybody to where you feel the world should be.

Darvince

Actually, the version of communism that you are talking about is elitist communism, where the government controls everything and the people have no say.

The rich love capitalism because they are well-off and would lose most of their money in a communist society. However the poor will tend towards communism as they would benefit from it. A lot of rich people are rich not because they worked for it, but because they sit around in a chair all day with the “prestigious” title of CEO or chairman or president or whatever the company decided to name it.

However there is also anarcho-communism, which no country has ever used before, where there is no money but there are rights, because, just because nothing is privatized, there can still be rights inside the home or anything else that you own.

The “elites” that you are speaking about actually want capitalism as they will most likely not be in the government if the US somehow became communist. Those in the government also do not want communism as their massive paychecks would be stripped from them.

The control of people that you are talking about is actually only under capitalism, because the CEOs will strip everything that a man can do when they are in their work is stripped from them as they will be fired if they don’t work. In communism, they would not be fired because they would be able to switch between whatever job they wanted that was also within their ability.

http://isocracy.org Lev Lafayette

It is a great tragedy Mark that you see a criticism of heartless capitalism to mean that David is a supporter of heartless communism.

Perhaps you would like to reconsider your baseless accusation and realise that laws prohibiting the feeding of the homeless are simply wrong regardless of one’s preferred economic system.

Darvince

Remember, David, that few people in the US actually know what communism actually is.

http://www.truedemocracy.net Arlene Johnson

It’s communism. Please read http://www.truedemocracy.net/td-27/03.html which is the first part of the 5-part article. You’ll see Kuhn & Loeb in it at the beginning. They are in NYC, so this is very relevant to the USA even though it talks about Russia.

Peace,

Arlene Johnson
Publisher/Authorhttp://www.truedemocracy.net
If this whole link is not visable, click on the icon that says Magazine, and go to the 27th edition.

Philip B

It’s like a guy I read about a few years ago. A man was having a heart attack and a passerby gave him CPR, the passerby cracked one of the man’s ribs in the process, but saved his life.

When the man found out the passerby was a pre-med student, he SUED HIM!!

Only in America…

mondobeyondo

It’s already happened. There was a case not so long ago (I believe it was in San Francisco…?) where rescue workers stood by and watched a man drown because it was outside their city jurisdiction to help him. In other words, the first responders couldn’t help a drowning man because they would be breaking city rules.

Maggie

Do the homeless not deserve safe and sanitary meals? One of the many reasons that such laws are now being made is because so many churches, volunteers, everyday people, etc, are cooking meals in their homes, putting it in containers and taking it out to camps. The groups who do not take their trash with them leave it at the camps, creating a horrible sanitary situation that causes infestation of RATS, insects, and other wild animals. Most importantly, the homeless deserve the same benefits as the rest of society of being fed meals that come from a kitchen that it at least up to health code. There are plenty of “soup kitchens” that are appropriate to serve food, not random people from their homes.

Janet

My goodness…”there, but for the Grace of God go I”. Codes, random people, soup kitchens! You truly do not understand the meaning of christianity or humanity. Thank God for the people who can and do help where necessary. Continue to let the government control such humane, decent and moral actions and soon they will be in YOUR home telling you it’s not sanitary enough to feed your family. Pure foolishness and an extremely cruel proposal to say the least.

Stephen

Wow Maggie. If we allow the government to regulate every aspect of our life, we will soon be no better than a Communist society. Your comment about the homeless deserve the same benefits as the rest of society of being fed meals that come from a kitchet that is up to a health code really disturbs me. I doubt your kitchen at home is up to code. So, you wouldn’t feed a homeless person out of your kitchen, but you would feed your family.

I doubt what I said above was true. Of course you trust your kitchen and not only feed your family, but others as well. It is the same with other people’s kitchens. I don’t go to my friends house and ask if his kitchen is up to code. I eat whatever he gives me. I sincerely believe that if we do not help ourselves and others, no one else will. Trusting in the government to do what is right, is a dangerous game these days.

Nancy Bisset

Maggie where do you come from???? You know what is being put into our food by those that ‘have all the permits and FDA approval; ole some things they allow to be found is so many mouse turds, find the list it will make you puke Maggie; Many corps. are killing humanity slowly.; with a legal permit’ Then you speak someone making meals for the poor that live eating out of a garbage cans ‘May get sick from a compassion ant person feeding the poor; without paying a FEE to some bureaucratic agency- What is wrong with you???’Please tell me you are not from where I live in the USA—I am speechless at our lack of compassion and side with the bureaucratic bull shiiiiiite.Re-read your comment Please; you are part of the problem not the solution. Truly blind!!!!!!!

Sam Rivera

Unfortunately, Maggie is not truly blind Nancy. I live in Philadelphia and pass by a food camp on a daily basis. These camps provide a very necessary function by providing food for the homeless. However they do not provide a clean up crew or bathrooms. These areas are STREWN with garbage after the fact. These areas also turn into public bathrooms where I have witnessed people defecating in the street. This is a public health issue. While I have no issues with these charities providing food, they should also be responsible for cleanup and bathrooms.

IluvJesus

Of course they should have that but seriously, I eat food from my kitchen so why do you act like it is not good enough to feed someone else. By giving someone food I am not saying they don’t deserve sanitary conditions. I am saying I care about you and I want to help you.

http://www.facebook.com Judy

Are you serious, Maggie? Instead of requiring food meet the government’s “standards,” based on the scenario you give, instead there should be laws that dictate cleanup after providing food, or the individual/group that fails to do so will be fined. That would prevent the unsanitary conditions you describe, not the requirement of permits just to give the food away. Come to think of it, fining people for leaving trash behind might help to clean up otherwise filthy parks & other public areas, don’t you think?

Kim

Wow Maggie,
It’s obvious people like you make up these ludicrous and totally unconscionable laws and justify it all nice and neatly in their extremely distorted heads!

joe corron

I’ve broken laws for less than a good cause in my youth, without fear of penalties. I’m not a do gooder, don’t need a high five for every small deed that I do to help people, BUT, nor will I seek permission to help people either. That is the most unAmerican thing I’ve heard of in quite some time. Next time I’m at Mickey D’s and buy breakfast and coffee for the guy outside freezing with his world in a backpack, I’ll make sure to watch my back as if I were a drug dealer. Thanks America for the tender heart and the compassion we’re so well known for.

Nancy Bisset

Thanks joe; You make me proud. Maggie above made me puke at her feeling to make it safe for these people to eat the food you provide safe; Having an FDA or some local permit (PAYING A FEE Whoopie) to serve them a meal ‘making sure you go by the law book; so if you do not They can fine your arse and close your-home down.’ Then we wonder why our civilization is heading to another extinction; if we do not get it right this time. The Maggie’s better wake up to what is going on around them when YOU CAN NOT FEED those that are hungry and hurting. Sad. Bless you joe for your words. Makes me proud if you were my son. :-)))

PAUL LEO FASO

I can feed a squirrel all day long in the park, but I cannot feed another fellow human being?

There is not one jury that would find me guilty of a crime except one found in hell.

Nancy Bisset

Paul sorry to burst your bubble, “It is a crime to feed the squirrel in the park, it says ‘do not litter'; litter is pitching something down and leaving it there….’ Don’t you think an interpretation of that Law could be applied to your innocently feeding the poor little squirrel also?? Ummm did not think on that did you? (I know sounds as ridiculous as these laws; needing a a health permit or you will be fined for feeding the homeless)Needed a smile; for these comments break my heart. People Keep taking a stand and feed the poor. Love Nancy

http://www.lovingheartsclub.com LovingHearts

We have been taught that the homeless are all bums, who want to be on the streets. Watch this video which shows what we go through each week. Families, children, working poor, all who don’t have food. Why is it that a community based group, like ourselves, can feed thousands of homeless folks, and our almighty government can’t seem to do anything about it?

Not only is there too little generosity of spirit and deed in the UniTIGHTASStates of AmeriKKKakapeepee, the governing goons of the populations of selfish lunks even ban charity and aid to those in need. Judgment looms over you, AmeriKKKakapeepee!

Nancy Bisset

Jerry I am from the Amerikkkakapeepee (Love your name I am totally disgusted at the blindness of our people. Maggie that wrote above really tweaked me; I pray she is not an American for it sounds like one of those with blinded eyes. OMG she is saying that homeless deserve ‘safe and sanitary meals,’ what a hoot. I ask her to re-read her statement; ludicrous for sure. Here men and women eating form G/cans and she thinks that loving beings sharing a meal would be so dirty that it would be unsafe. This is pure blindness and needs to change or the re-seeding of humanity will be ex-tinct-ed as the other 6-times civilization did not get it and went its merry way to utter failure and had to be incinerated. Oh people have got to wake up out of their sleep; ‘HEY we cannot feed the homeless without paying the right fees to obtain a government approval to feed a Human Being down on their luck and life.’ Nancy

Concerned Christ Man

This nation is no longer truly GOD fearing anymore, if there are so many “Christians” in America, then why are these laws passing? It is because Christianity has been muted by the few. Its not politically correct to be Christian anymore. May GOD forgive this nation for its back sliding ways. I fear that America is coming up for judgment soon, how do you think we’ll do?

Nancy Bisset

Concerned Christ man THIS is part of the problem dear man. Religion was invented to get these rules and regulations passed using the very BELIEF you live by. It is sad but truth is here now. My church (like yours) never would have helped me when I needed money to help pay water and sewer; I went to another faith and the lady paid-all of them up to date; waiting for child support from a their-dad-just up and left us. If it were not for these people of all faiths feeding the poor our situation with the homeless would be almost unbearable.These churches do not need the head ache of bureaucratic making it that they would have to stop or have to buy permits and do expensive changes to FEED THE HOMELESS. This has got to stop–> and ALL churches working together. It is our Responsibility to help those in need. Nancy

Philip B

Because “Christians” are some of the most bigoted and judgmental people out there!!

Philip B

“Love thy neighbor”…as long as they’re the same color, religion, keep their women subjugated and “God FORBID” if they’re gay!!

JF

There are no groups out protesting our out of control government agencies/bureaucrats. Check this article out that happened in my local area:

Re: “Feeding The Homeless BANNED In Major Cities All Over America” this means that Christianity is being banned. It’s an essential part of our faith.

Devil May CAre

Wrong. Shut up.

Mind Candy

Christians don’t have a patent on compassion. I’ve never turned anyone away, and I never will, laws be damned.

This is more about compassion being banned, regardless of anyone’s personal ideology. Dehumanize the masses and nobody will speak out when the government takes them away.

andy

As ever you continue to inform, astound and horrify. While I don’t share much of your politics, making charity illegal should sicken decent people everywhere.

Heavy authoritarianism is on the rise all over. Here they’re practically nationalising the labour supply, instead of creating jobs they’re the unemployed as cheap forced labour. They’ve also started to bring prices under government control, as part of a puritanical crackdown on drinking – so while the old Communists at least tried to make essentials affordable for their people, our “lemon socialists” like to make everything as expensive as possible- and thus make out like bandits.

Good luck fighting your sick, control freak, Neo-Soviet government!

SWIFT

These mayors and city counsils’ who passed these ordinances will be heavily judged. So will any police who enforce them. It is written!

http://doublevisioned.blogspot.com/ runner

this is what happens when a country is run like a for-profit capitalist venture. laws are enacted based on victimless crimes to preserve the interests of capital. what’ll become of poor americans when for-profit prisons become the norm, which is already beginning to happen in some parts of the country? they’ll strive to keep prisons profitable by criminalizing as many people as possible for non-crimes! this would create an elite class of prisonlords, parasite profiteers and mayors and police chiefs getting kickbacks that would literally turn the country into hell on earth.

the corporatocracy not only wants food to be a commodity and to be lucrative for the ruling class but also to remove all competition, and even to turn water into a commodity (this sparked four-month-long WATER WARS in Bolivia recently), to commodify everything. and if you can’t buy food and water because all the jobs are going to India and China, or even to robots and machines that are replacing people, well then, BAD LUCK, they say.

Some things should not be commodified, should be seen as fundamental human rights: education, food, shelter, water, health care. Everything else can stay for profit, but these should be seen as non-negotiable socialized services that all should have access to, without exception.

Jane

Horrible! The only place dignity comes before starvation is in the dictionary!

phatpooch

FEEDING THE HOMELESS

The majority of the people involved with helping this cause had a history of substance abuse and a high percentage of those people came from the Downtown East side

The Servants of Hope is a non profit charity that has been helping the people of Vancouver’s downtown east side for the past 6 years. Alongside hot meals and warm coats they serve up a sense of hope and a chance at a new life. Below is a video link from Christmas 2012 over one hundred people came together to feed the homeless and do outreach we served over one thousand people that night

this is absolutely sickening. “they don’t want them congregated in front of large city centers because they know they will get food” im sorry did i miss the memo that explains how when someone becomes homeless they essentially become racoons or stray cats? so now they went from the unfortunate in the “land of opportunity” to a bother to society in the land of disappointment. obviously people enjoy having no where to go and begging on the street. obviously that is their choice because our country is so great and full of opportunity and second chances right? this isn’t a country. this is one of those horror tragedies you never wanted to be real. guess what america, now its on your doorstep.

vancouver mark

Wait, what, so now I can’t feed raccoons or stray cats??!!?

t&e

this just shows that our country is being taken over by a bunch of assholes and greedy pricks! if you can’t help your fellow man then what good are u! i will still feed our brothers and sisters no matter what the F the law says.

http://N/A S.M. De Kuyper

In 100 years the human species may well be extinct. Erasing the pride and pleasure in caring for other humans only creates the damaged inhuman humans that will make laws to criminalise feeding their starving homeless and genocidally erase a billion here and a billion there who have beliefs not understood and skin colour differing from copy-paper white.

CAROLYN HAYWOOD

IF THE GOVERNMENT HAD NOT STOLE OUR MONEY THOSE PEOPLE WOULD NOT BE HUNGRY OR HOMELESS. I THINK THE BASTARDS CAN KISS MY ASS. YES!! I SAID KISS MY ASS.

Kathy

The day I can not give a stranger food or water is the day they can put me in jail….cause that’s the only thing that will stop me……

http://www.countrymanordesigns.com claudia thompson

The Bible says in the Book of Revelation that those who refuse to receive the Mark of the Beast will not be allowed to buy and sell.

It wouldnt do any good for the Government to do this, if people could turn around and just give these people food, etc themselves then would it?

They are just setting up everything right now for what is to come in the near future. The Sunday Law. Revelation says God’s people will keep HIS commandments Rv 14:6-12. The Papacy says NO you must keep the commandments of the Roman Catholic Church.

“The Bible says, Remember that thou keep holy the Sabbath day. The Catholic church says, No! By my divine power I abolish the Sabbath day, and command you to keep the first day of the week. And lo, the entire civilized world bows down in reverent obedience to the command of the holy Catholic church!” Father Enright, C.S.S.R. of the Redemptoral College, Kansas City, History of the Sabbath, p. 802

SUNDAY is our MARK of authority. . . . The church is ABOVE the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.”—Catholic Record, September 1, 1923.

This is why the European Alliance is pushing the Sunday Law, trying to force people to take a day of rest from work to “make them more productive”, the Catholic Church is behind this.

Gary2

Do you think Gog and Magog will get the mark of the beast or will they simply kick the beasts ass?

katie

I was homeless for 14 months, in North Carolina. I had always had very decent jobs, cared for my children, and ended up homeless because of physical problems. It took unending searching for agencies, vocational rehab – but I eventually went back to school for phlebotomy, moved OUT of North Carolina, and am now living a very decent life once again. I empathize to all who are on the street – I was there. It takes finding the right people/agencies to help get back on your feet. God bless all, and keep you safe. namasate – katie

Clearly this “banning” is to shepherd people into even greater dependence on government. You don’t think it’s an accident, do you?

Baja K

Using the “patriotic” term “America” for the United States OF America sounds a bit too…well…patriotic and patronizing. Plus it’s not the real name of this country. It’s a nickname…that just happens to be Easier To Say and Sing, in nice popular anthems etc.

The whole triple continent, North, Central and South America is America….and many in those other parts of America are well aware of US arrogance in co-oping “America” for itself. It’s not a natural colloquialism or “evolution of language”, it’s propaganda…because it’s easier for most to say.

It’s no distraction or loss of time or ink to say “The USA” or “The US” or “US citizens” to avoid sounding like a Flag-Waving Used Car Salesman asking us to buy a car to support “America”.

Language and rhetoric are important. Every word has to be as carefully used as possible. THEY take great care. Ought not we?

ZALizzy

From a South African’s point of view, some form of control os good. We are flooded with homeless people and poverty is a major issue. Hungry homeless people loot and kill to survive.
We are forced by government to help them with jobs. But not being qualified o trained or even educated makes it difficult to employ them. No jobs no money or food and other necessities.

From a Christian perspective, it is expected of us to help the needy. Problem is they then expect you to do it every day and stop looking for jobs etc. because they are fed every day!! We need to educate better which I believe will solve a big issue regarding poverty etc.
Bottom line as long as I can afford to help, I will! But don’t bite the hand that is feeding you…….

Geetsmama

Who really make these heartless rules and have them implemented because it is truly possible for people with lack of heart compassion to wakeUP

joe

I guess they never heard about Jesus.
Those who endorse this prohibition of food are domestic enemies I have sworn to combat.
I am coming armed with food and love.
Better a millstone tied around your neck and hurled into the sea than what is in store for those who ‘hurt’ My Children.

ian

not allowed to feed the hungry? reads like the end of Lord of the Rings (Tolkien’s book version, not in the film): rules and orc-talk.

http://www.ccguide.org/index.php Alun Buffry

Is this a move to increase the prison population?

If hungry people cannot be given food, how many will resort to theft – it may be a life or death choice.

I am so glad that I do not live in the USA.

shelly

Are we really reduced to this..COMPASSION! When people are hungry lets just feed them. A law that says we need to take all these “safety measure to help feed those with nothing, As for me i will do what ever i want when i see a person that needs help…Will we be in Jail or should we put more people in prison..Control monsters!!!!We are moving back not forward in addressing so many social needs. TEAR!

http://facebook L Avery

This reminds me of a local grocery store(Trading Company) in our area that throws away their day-old bread,(a couple if shopping carts full) along with a truckload of other salvageable items each day. When asked to donate to our local Food Bank they refused citing insurance concerns. When people dumpster dived for it they installed an expensive closed dumpster to stop access. Bastards!

JerryParker

Strike back! Make it illegal to feed unrelected politicians or civil servants turfed out of their offices, to be classed as “non-human” whether they are still in office or not, but okay to feed any other needy persons.

JerryParker

I meant to say “unreelected politicians”, but maybe it`s best to make it illegal for them to eat at all: starve the problem-makers to death.

Philip B

So what’s wrong with taking him/her to the nearest fast food place and buying them something off the $1 value menu??

Chris

John Galt is a character in a book called Atlas Shrugged. Everyone should read this book. I would explain it in greater detail but I could do it no justice. It totally pertains to this story. Our gov’t is out of control and must be punished. Just read the book. It will change your life.

miki lansdowne

This is so sad! God said to love one another, this is part of the mission field God needs to reach. Theses are the kind of people Jesus spent a lot of time with feeding, healing and preaching too in the Bible.

Some people have a hard cold heart. Justifying why you should not help the homeless, because they think there just scamming us or there drug attics & alcoholics or what ever the reason there on the streets…

Jesus did not give a list of excuses on why we should not love one another.. Well if there this or that you don’t have to help, just drive by and grumble and discourage a van full of kids on why you should not feed them their muffins when God put it on there hearts to do an act of kindness and destroy that mission field in there hearts.

Now you will be arrested for following Gods word in helping and loving the homeless… I wonder how many people now will show there true hearts and stop doing that act God commands us to do because of the new worldly laws ..

One of the things i love most is feeding and cutting hair for the homeless. I have went several times to homeless shelters and cut as much hair as I could in a day.

Seeing the smiles and self-esteem of these people just beam from there faces because for the first time in a long time they felt normal!
That feeling of knowing I blessed them moves me to tears every-time I think of a certain woman, who just that one haircut changed her.

Before I cut her hair she was angry, cursing, would not come near me or let anyone touch her. Her walls were so high. But I was determined to climb them and cut her hair lol . So as the day went on she circled me, I kept talking to her encouraging her how beautiful her hair was and building her up with words of kindness, letting her know she was in control of the situation and finally I was getting ready to close up she plopped in my chair gave me a list of what to not do and what I better do..lol

Along the way I would softly ask and show her the mirror “Do you like this? What do you think of that?” etc . She finally started to relax I was then able to touch her shoulders and just have human contact with her make her laugh and the walls started to fall.

Yes this was the longest haircut I have ever done lol .
Others were ready to leave and did not understand why I wanted to cut this lady’s hair so bad. But I wanted to bless her make her feel good about herself, show her that a complete stranger took the time to love her despite the fact she was a homeless prostitute. I wanted her to feel Gods Love.

At the end of the I guess 2-3 hour haircut she looked in the mirror and I saw the biggest smile on a face that frown lines ran so deep, shined so big! She hugged me with tears in her eyes and said thank you I have not seen “me” in a long time thank you!

I broke down as soon as I got a moment alone thanking God for that.

No one at the shelter could believe what they had seen in that moment.
The most angry hateful woman in the shelter just hugged and thanked me!

Anyhow this is just a small testimony on how God wants us to love the homeless and help them. Satan is just trying to stop God work from being done. It is up to us to not let him stand in the way of Gods plan…

ME

I’m an athiest and that made me cry. Totally awesome.

SMASH THE CONTROL MACHINE

Man has made 32,600,000 laws. God made only ten, and yet there is no law among all these millions man has made that isn’t covered with the Divine ones you can count on the fingers of your hands.” ILL BET WE ARE ALL LAWBREAKERS!!!IN NEED OF A SAVIOR !

RobinSong

Screw the bureaucrats and control freaks and let’s each do something to feed the homeless as a FORM OF PASSIVE RESISTANCE!!!!! SO HERE GOES. HERE’S MY PERSONAL CHALLENGE TO ALL OF YOU WHO READ THIS BLOG…………LET’S GIVE THE MIDDLE FINGER TO THE LOSER, DO-NOTHING, ANTI-POOR, HEARTLESS, PAPER PUSHING, GUB’MINT OFFICIALS AND EACH OF US GIVE A FOOD HAND-OUT TO A HOMELESS PERSON IN YOUR AREA THIS WEEK!!!!!!!

http://www.facebook.com/venetia.mohinani Venetia Mohinani

love the idea.. try to feed one person one small meal each day, if each of us does this, there will be no one hungry anymore… its so simple

Redwoods Gal

Now that is even a better idea… Love it…

safireitalia

that is what i have been saying for soooo long. We can END HUNGER…ONE PERSON AT A TIME…i am doing it ..

Redwoods Gal

Sounds great, But why just this week? Homeless are hungry everyday..

safireitalia

i have been doing it right along. no one is going to stop me. i make sandwiches and give out a sandwich with a bottle of water with each sandwich. so far within the last week….i have fed 60 homeless people…and it did not cost me alot of money to do it either…maybe those bigwigs in washington should learn from me…i can feed 16 homeless people on 13 bucks….which is the price of a movie ticket. my mission is to end hunger…give me THEIR MONEY…I can do it !!! i guarantee it !!

Randal Phillips

Right on! Never pass someone you can help without helping them. To hell with the bureaucrats. (They’re headed there anyway.)

Jim Lamont

Joining the discussion late but I do the same thing. I have given out 250+ sandwiches and juice packets. That is 250 meals and it has run less than $100 over months. I have not missed a dime of it. The reaction I get from the homeless is priceless. I have even seen grown men cry they were so grateful. Keep up the good fight.

Jean Pittenger

WE SHOULD BAN TOGETHER AND DO THIS TOGETHER ON FEEDING THE NEED MABY START AN UNDERGROUND FOOD SOUP KITCHEN SOMEWHERE OR MAKE A HUGE HOBBIT HOLE UNDERGROUND ONE YOU HAVE TO WALK UP ON IT TO SEE IT AND ONLY TELL THE NON SNITCHES

Mariah

What people don’t realize is that it has been proven that giving handouts such as food to homeless people does not correct poverty. It only leads to more poverty due to expectations from the impoverished. Poverty can be solved through education reforms, not by solely feeding the hungry. If I gave you enough food to feed your family every day, would that make you want to try to get an education or a job to better the lives of yourself and your family? Probably not.

Maryann Therese Ruelle

Mariah, most people wouldn’t TAKE your free food. There are those in NEED!!! 62% of those who are homeless are so because THEY HAVE LOST THEIR HOMES DUE TO THE ECONOMY, not because they’re looking for free food. Whose going to initiate these educational reforms, and how are the homeless supposed to access them? Until then, we don’t feed them because it may cause them to want to get fed again???? IMAGINE THAT! Wanting to get fed twice in a week because its free and more appealing than trash.
Were people to think like you, then let’s go a step further. There are 7 people in this country rich enough to solve the STARVATION PROBLEM IN THE WORLD, without hurting themselves economically. Seven people and no more world hunger. PEOPLE NEED FOOD OR THEY DIE!!!

Mariah

Yes, because ALL CAPS WILL SOLVE THE HUNGER PROBLEM!

There was a research study conducted that showed how feeding the impoverished rather than focusing on education lead to stagnant as well as increased poverty; I will try to find the study again to show you. I’m not saying we should stop feeding the hungry, however, maybe we could give free food in return for taking classes or something so people can get their GED or a college degree to better themselves so they can help others who have also faced poverty. Generational poverty is a HUGE (see, I can use caps too!) problem in the US. I know it all too well as I live in one of the poorest counties in MN. The high school graduation rate in my town is low when it should be higher.

Unemployment is not as much of an issue in our country as it is in other countries. The unemployment rate is only at 7% right now while it’s 17% in Spain and the unemployment rate is at 30% for people under 30 in Italy. We have it pretty good in the US so don’t say it’s hard finding a job in this country. If it’s difficult to find a job it’s due to educational gaps, not a lack of jobs.

Our citizens are also notorious for living outside of their means. If you can’t afford to pay a high mortgage on a home, then buy a more affordable home. We are all about living the high life when we only make a moderate income and we can’t have that mindset. You need to prepare for disasters and tragedies before they happen.

I care about the impoverished but I hate seeing generational poverty occur and it’s due to a lack of quality education. When you have college athletes running around who can’t read past an 8th grade reading level, you know something is wrong with our education system. What would those athletes have done if they didn’t get an athletic scholarship? They’d probably be in line at the food pantry because it’d be difficult to find a job with an 8 grade (or lower) reading level. Some of them can’t even read their names when it appears on TV… It all goes back to education.

Maryann Therese Ruelle

You’re missing one big point Mariah…we aren’t talking about solving poverty, we are talking about feeding people who have no homes, who live outdoors. These people are not generally welcome in even gas station bathrooms let alone classrooms. They need food. Period. It is against our rights supposedly guaranteed by the Constitution to ban our right to feed the homeless.
But then in the last few years, the Constitution has become an instrument less and less observed by the government and their obligation to adhere to it.

soulvac1 .

I agree…we all need to be fed! However, just feeding the impoverished gets them nowhere…feeding AND educating them will eventually address the reason why they are impoverished in the first place. “Give a man a fish…and feed him for a day…Teach a man to fish, and feed him for a LIFETIME!” Aloha!

Maryann Therese Ruelle

soulvac1
I agree with your bible quote, however, those promoting education for the homeless don’t seem to understand that these people aren’t welcome in pubic venues. We need to help them in re-homing projects, WHILE continuing to feed them. We simply can’t go against our moral obligation to feed the poor.
And if church’s and others in the cities involved in the bans would unite and in one voice say, WE WILL NOT COMPLY, WE WILL FEE THEM.! I doubt very much that there are enough jails for all of them. We need to take a strong and swift stand against this.

Jean Pittenger

I AGREE WITH THAT LETS DO THAT I WILL EVEN JOIN YOU

Jean Pittenger

YOU ARE REALLY STUPID IT COST MONEY FOR A FISHING LICENSE IF YOU DON’T HAVE ONE YOU CAN’T FISH AND IF CAUGHT FISHING WITHOUT A LICENSE YOU GET A FINE FOR EACH FISH YOU HAVE ON THE STRINGER AND MABY JAIL AND LOSS OF FISHING PRIVLIAGES FOR UP TO A YEAR

Jean Pittenger

SOME OF THESE PEOPLE THAT WERE HOMELESS AND HUNGRY WERE VICTOMS OF HURRICANE KATRINA FOR A WHILE AFTER IT HIT YOU GOING TO PICK A WAR WITH THEM THEY WERE PERSECUTED ALSO FOR BEING WITHOUT A HOME THEY LOST THEIR HOMES AND BUISNESSES

pbandj

I was a teacher….hungry children can’t learn…look up those studies

Bob King

A research study, as in one study which found these results. If you would even care to supply any more information Im sure there is a flaw somewhere in that study if other studies did not replicate the results.

Jean Pittenger

31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

King James Version (KJV)

Bob King

please please stop

Jean Pittenger

NO I WILL NOT STOP

Jean Pittenger

FREEDOM OF RELIGION AND FREEDOM OF SPEACH SO DON’T TELL ME WHAT TO DO

Jean Pittenger

31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

King James Version (KJV)

Jean Pittenger

THAT IS A CROCH OF CRAP WHAT IF YOU FIND A JOB AND FIND A PERSON THAT WORKS THERE THAT DON’T LIKE YOU THEY ARE GOING TO GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO GET YOU FIRED AND IT HAS HAPPENED TO ME I WAS SEXUALLY HARRASSED OUT OF ALMOST EVERY TRUCKING JOB WHEN I GOT MY CDL IF YOU WANT TO END HOMELESSNESS AND HUNGER THEN END SEXUAL HARRASSMENT IN THE WORK PLACE BECAUSE I REFUSED TO SLEEP WITH SOMEBODY FOR A JOB AND THAT WHERE IT PUT ME HOMELESS HUNGRY AND ON THE STREET BECAUSE A MAN AT A TRUCKING COMPANY GOT ME FIRED WHEN I SAID GO F YOURSELF

Bob King

WHERE was this PROVEN and when please…. Sounds like conservative banter to me, not to be taken seriously without evidence.

Pastor Jim

This is so evil. The evil one is in control of this world. Only the enemy will ban people from helping others. I have been homeless before. God will bring his judgment on these cities. When you do not defend the orphan, the widow, and the poor. God’s anger will be displayed. Jesus is coming very soon. We must not delay in getting ready for His coming.

http://itsafluffy.blogspot.com DL

We will get what we deserve…pretty soon it’ll be illegal to give money to folks on street corners as well. But true Christians will feed the homeless anyway, just do it more clandestinely. Then there are those who will let “Romans 13″ (“obey the government” and “pay your taxes”) prevent them from Christian acts…

Tammy

The people that are making these rules. They should have to switch places. They are not the ones having to do without. I do not live outside my means. However, it is getting harder and harder to keep a roof over my head. I am very frugle. I work two jobs just to make ends meet. I pay all the bills myself with no help. I was recently laid off. Trying to get another job. I can’t live on some of the wages that are being offered. I would be homeless if I took a lower wage. I have been on my knees praying. That I will get a job that pays for me to have a roof over my head. My weekend job employer has been so good to me. They know how hard I work. I am on time and do a great job. I do not have reasons of why I can’t work. I make sure to have a professional attire and apperance. However, they are a small company. They would love to hire me. However, the company can’t pay me what I need. They are letting me work extra hours. Untill I find a full-time job.

mondobeyondo

George Orwell was right. He just got the date wrong. He was 28 years off.

Big Brother will determine what you eat, when you eat, how you eat, or whether you will eat at all. And no, I’m not talking about the “reality” TV show, either.

http://www.redslaboop.com Reds La Boop

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
“Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

Emma Lazarus, 1883

This is where I was born. Period.

mondobeyondo

The White House
XXV Martius MMXII
Washington D.C.

Publicus Americanus,
I am pleased to say, all is going well in the Republic. The Great Recession is over. Economic recovery going nicely! Citizens are feasting on bread, and enjoying the circuses on television. American Idol is a huge hit So is the movie “The Hunger Games”. It is not just a movie, it will soon be reality. Oops, did I just say that?

I will now take indefinite leave from my formal duties, and pursue golf and basketball as my entertainment.

Sincerely, Barack H. Julius Caesar Obama

mondobeyondo

I’m off to watch the chariot races! (That’s NASCAR, for you common folk.)

J.M.

I had mixed feelings about the article. I have 2 clients who feed people monthly. One feeds about 700 people and the other feeds over 5,000 monthly. For years there has been no lack of places for the homeless to eat. This is the blessing of America. For food providers you must have permits to keep the people you serve safe from disease. In my city you can get lunch and dinner everyday of the week and breakfast and dinner on weekends and bagged groceries weekly at a different location. No one is stopping anybody from feeding the homeless. There has to be some rules of engagement when you feed people. When you eat at your restaurant do you want the comfort of knowing that foodhandler laws have been practiced or can anybody just go in the kitchen and fix your plate? There is a lot more involved than the author of this article is telling. I get calls from a lot of people every month. “I just went to the park to feed the homeless and then….” They have stories of being used and abused and ask me to help when they could have directed them to a homeless provider.

J.M.

Here is the Center for disease control food bourne list.This s why we need to get control over who prepares and gives out food to the homeless. It is not the homeless we are worried about. It is the food preparation that could be dangerous. No one is trying to stop the homeless from being fed.

Feed the homeless people anyway you can. I could care less about what government officials say. Sitting in their big over sized cafeterias, shoving down pizza and cheese burgers while the guy with no job sits shivering on the street. If a police officer tries to stop you tell him your covered under the good Samaritan act and can not be found liable on both a civil and criminal level. I mean all your trying to do is save a life. N.Y. Public Health L. §§ 3000-a, 3000-b, 3013 (McKinney 2000);

Darvince

teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel meeeeeeeeeeee what this is
!

Anne M Nowak

This is the sickest thing i’ve read in a long time. i’m extremely ashamed of the so-called leaders who are pushing this kind of crap. Please…if there were ever a need for civil disobedience it is in this situation. And Up against The Wall for the lawmakers involved!

Apparently, had Jesus tried to feed the multitude with loaves and fishes today, he’d be in violation of the law. Somehow, I don’t think Jesus was in the business of distributing unsanitary food in an undignified manner!

Any doubt as to the spiritual force behind this? None in my mind. Perhaps Mayor Nutter and his ilk should study their Bible to learn their fate:

Matthew 25:31-46

New International Version (NIV)
The Sheep and the Goats
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

______

Quoting:

Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter has announced a ban on the feeding of large numbers of homeless and hungry people at sites on and near the Benjamin Franklin Parkway.

Mayor Nutter is imposing the ban on all outdoor feedings of large numbers of people on city parkland, including Love Park and the Ben Franklin Parkway, where it is not uncommon for outreach groups to offer free food.

Nutter says the feedings lack both sanitary conditions and dignity.

mare

That vile person called Mayor Bloomberg needs to acquire some dignity himself because he’s sadly lacking in it. What a despicable thing all these bureaucrats are doing forbidding feeding of the homeless…..may they rot in h@ll.
That’s it…..I can’t stand to be around them any more…I’m moving to China!

Carrie

This is ridiculous. People can’t be fed near the Ben Franklin Parkway due to traffic issues. I am sure there are other similar situations. This is a fear-mongering website.

Carrie

P.S. Even the headline is misleading – feeding the homeless isn’t banned in the entire city. Also, the cities would be held responsible if a homeless person is hurt while being fed, such as hit by a car, poisoned, etc. Everyone should donate to their local homeless shelters so that they will have the funding to help the homeless instead of complaining about this.

Carrie

Another P.S. The ban is on LARGE NUMBERS of people where sanitation would be a problem. Again, donate to your local homeless shelter.

brokowski

with that response i can only assume you have no knowledge of homeless shelters

jerry

yes been there done that see more then i wish any kid at 17 should ever see it still haunts me and am 52

jerry

there part of the problem !!!!go read about shelters and what they do to families.lots of those program are set up to make somebody wife get big checks and the homeless suffer worse ,but there is a totally new program coming it house and creates jobs and gives them real food with good pay not a hand out but a hand up

jerry

its called Americas Dreams it does more than any government plan ever will do or shelters, missions .e-mail me if you like to know facts about really helping the homeless,and are veterans,children

Orange Jean

Time to stock up on groceries if you live in Virginia, NC or West Virginia — just thought I’d pass it along!

We have a family restaurant and we can’t give leftovers to homeless, we have to throw it out.

Michael

Sammy:

That is really crazy. What is happening to America?

Michael

TFox

The sad thing is, many homeless will dig through dumpsters when they are starving. So, by you not giving it directly to them, and putting it in the dumpster, they are now eating food that is even more at risk for poor health conditions…

Arvin Sharpe

Business are now being ordered to make the food in dumpsters non-eatable, soaked with water or other trash

jared

Welcome to our America…no longer land of the free. It is time to take the power away from the government and put it back into the hands of the common folk before its too late.

Jen

We never been truly free. There’s an illusion of freedom and less and less personal choice. We don’t learn what it means to be autonomous and this government promotes dependency.

There are so many who’ve known these things and so many more finally waking up to the truth about this gov. and in fact the very foundation upon which this country was built on is a masonic maze of lies.

Now that so many are becoming aware how do we take this country back? How do we organize and rally us together to oust the bastards from office? How do we set out to accomplish this? What now?

I pray it’s not too late

May the hologram collapse

Peace

BeezdaBlock

As a slave-descended African-American person, I can tell you, Jared, that this land was never free. That truth/reality has just become more apparent to white Americans today than it was before. Personally, I’m happy that people are beginning to see pass the illusion of American “freedom”. Seeing the reality for what it is means that we can change it.

Nutter had a friend in me despite eveything till now. I would be honored to be arrested for feeding a homeless person, just try and stop me.

Kay Lang

I agree. How long can they hold someone for feeding the homeless? I would promise them lots of publicity once released.

Anne

Why not make it illegal to feed the homeless en masse and then leave all your crap and garbage everywhere? But Carrie, thanks. I got the situ. now.

Gareth

Thank goodness I’m not American. Or homeless. ’cause this law sounds silly. I mean really.

http://www.urbanex,.org Em

Apparently its easier to make laws against something in a blanket statement than to creatively address their concerns (re:sanitation & quality food) while still working FOR the people….At some point we forgot that laws are supposed to work for the people instead of against them. Especially with the economy the way its been…what will they say when its their child, their mother, their neighbor who is hungry, lost and needs community & a place to sleep w/both eyes closed?!?! Its harder to make uneducated blanket-statement laws when its the face of someone you love…and EVERYONE is somebodies loved one.

Joel

I looks like a case of clandestine genocide against the homeless to me.

BeezdaBlock

You are right. Unfortunately.

DownWithLibs

It would appear as if the exterminations have begun. They will start with the homeless (who, sadly are considered a nuisance and of no value), then work their way up from there. Would not surprise me one bit.

Jack Norhee

Shame on you America!!!!!!! you are disgusting

cscan

America is far from disgusting, the people are great and the government sucks, i love my country so please try not to confuse patriotism for nationalism, ridicule the war pigs and respect the working man

USPatriot

Joel, you are right. It is the beginning of the genocide which the shadow government is orchestrating. They are NUTS! Time to turn to God, accept the will of Jesus Christ and send the evil ones to the devil.

dave

Just the begining. Soon you will have to have a computer chip AKA (mark of the beast)TO EAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tammy

The mark of the beast is not a computer chip and never will be. It has to do with what you think and who you choose to worship (forehead) and what you do as a person (hands). There is no physical object or lettering. Read your Bible before you are led to believe more lies.

RomFox

It’s actually a reference to the Roman emperor Nero. Read your world/biblical history before you blindly repeat things you’ve been told without actually providing any information that suggests you even know what it means. Vague statements pushing your beliefs aren’t worth anything.

Also, the dude you commented on was making a joke. So please quiet yourself. Nobody wants to hear it.

Kelley

Well said Tammy. It appears your detractor is wearing that mark. :O

Thomas Murphy

None of this should shock anyone: there is a good AND a bad side to government in our lives, and a difference between those in the government whose mission it is to help the unfortunate, and those who are fussy control freaks. Our congress (not just federal, but state congresses, too) is filled with NUTS, with no sympathy for those who live in the real world. WHEN is this going to end? There will have to be a people’s revolution in America: there simply has to be. OWS is great, but is not enough.

Kay Hardy

YOU DON’T MENTION THE YOU TUBE VIDEO AVAILABLE
THAT INCLUDES OBAMA DECLARING IN A SPEECH THAT HE WON’T BE SITTING IN THE SEAT AS U.S. PRESIDENT
PAST HIS FIRST 3 1/2 YRS. BECAUSE HE WILL BE
TAKING HIS SEAT IN THE WING OF THE TEMPLE IN
JERUSALEM BECAUSE “I AM THE GLOBAL RULER”.

IF THAT HAPPENS IT INDICATES THE WORLD HAS GONE
THRU’ THE 1ST 3 1/2 YEARS OF THE TRIBULATION
PERIOD WITH OBAMA AS THE PROPHESIED ANTI CHRIST.

Gary

I also want to see Obama GO! BUT I cannot find that video you write of. Please respond with the name or a link.

Thanks much

Kay Hardy

Read the Book of Revelation to learn what God’s
plan is for the 2nd half of the Tribulation 3 1/2 year period. God’s Judgement and wrath that will
be poured out on the Children of Disobedience but
He will “deliver the righteous”. I have rec’d a vision of the Great White Throne Judgement scene
where only a handful of the sheep on Jesus right hand were being elevated up to Heaven. The millions and masses of naked ‘goats’ were being shoved down into the Lake of Fire with Jesus Left hand. They were screaming up at Jesus, “I did this in Your Name, I did that in Your Name” and
Jesus calmly said, “Depart from me ye workers of iniquity for I never knew you; you got your reward on earth.” I shudder at the prospect of the Laodoceans and those who have been deceived by Satan & his cohorts spending an Eternity in Hell. God gave us a manual to live by but people
will perish for lack of knowledge because they
are lazily being spoon fed God’s Holy Word but
deny the power thereof There is a price to pay for Rejection of the Saviour,the Living Word of God and disobedience to His commandments. Amen

Lee

Kay, relax, calm down, take a deep breath. Someone needs to give you a hug, it’s going to be okay.

http://Facelikethesun.com Facelikethesun

Totally lame. But what about giving them clothing and other resources? Is this just a ban of food? It doesn’t make sense. I get that it’s part of the globalist/totalitarian American agenda.

Not in any of those cities but I know my community is big on providing for the homeless. That’s why I want to know.

margaret pullen

We mneed to reestablish poor farms in the rrual ares and moves these Americnas to them, includinglivings accomidations.

My grand paresnt ran a pooor from in the middled of this country , nebraska during the great depression.

My fellow American, each and every one or you take charge from you wohn being, listen to your dvine creator, take back america now.

There is not excuse for this happen ing in our country! There is plenty of food, agriculture is abundant.

I raised lots of corn, alfalfa and cattle in my youth. My land was stolen from me in 1972!

Oscar Benson

That is true. Many lands were stolen from family farms and turned into corporate farms that sow evil seeds of monsanto. We all need get to know one another and get together and do something about all this. Just like they burned the beets in oregon.!! Hungary and other places on the planet!! We are many we can do it!!

“mystic”,you took the words to that lovely anthem right out of my mouth. I had only read a few of the comments regarding these inhumane laws when I recalled that choral from the 1950’s and how America took it to its heart and we all felt so proud to be the compassionate nation which gave welcome and hope to the downcasts and the hopeless. Americans are still that compassionate people, and we can all personally and queitly go about feeding anyone who is hungry, any where. Quiet, persistent, individual disobedience is the response called for. Problems of sanitation, and food safety along with creating a perceived public nuisance can be avoided with a little creativity and common sense. Laws and city ordinances which seek to criminalize simple human kindness and decency toward our fellow man are an embarrassment to our country and an insult to our national character. I say “To hell with them!”

Ed

The “Good Samaritan Law” can be a legal defense. Also, sometimes you need to be sneaky:
Restaurants can leave garbage in one container and can leave “garbage”(food)in a 2nd container.
If jailed murderers and rapists can be fed, why not innocent homeless people?

http://TheBridgeBunch.com Pastor Bob

We feed about 3500 people every month here in Nashville. We have been doing this for a while. The face of the homeless person has changed a lot. We have lawyers, nurses, professional people on the streets these days. I just wonder how many of these people writing these ridiculous laws are also one paycheck away from the street. They might just find themselves being homeless themselves one day – with no one to feed them!

edward fuckstick

highly doubtfull. professionals always have back up income and savings accounts your fear mongering will not work here.

Stack

This not fear mongering;it’s basic economics. Even the most educated and professional people can become destitute during a economic and physical crisis. We need to be able to feed those that fall through the crack….otherwise we have no compassion, integrity, or backbone! Some folks just need a “hand up” when they hit bottom…no one wants a hand out!

http://www.facebook.com/venetia.mohinani Venetia Mohinani

correct.. backup moneny, savings accounts can all go poof, if the Lord so wills it… what goes around, comes around

http://twitter.com/pandyboop pandy j

backup money, savings accounts are worthless if your health goes South. Most of these folks are mentally ill .

Oscar Benson

They are probably one step away from some appointment with satan or his UN minions.

PJ London

Time to read Ayn Rand again.

“We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission.” Ayn Rand

“When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing; when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favours; when you see that men get rich more easily by graft than by work, and your laws no longer protect you against them, but protect them against you. . . you may know that your society is doomed.”

Ayn Rand – Atlas Shrugged

Yep, the Gulch looks better every day.

Steve

I used to be a police officer in a major city. First off, when I see the word “homeless”, I think “mentally ill”, because that is what I dealt with. At one park where various church groups fed the homeless there was a man who would eat the food and then a few hours later fly into a rage and claim there had been mind control drugs in the food. That was always fun to deal with.

One of the things I noticed was most of the groups feeding the homeless where church groups from the suburbs. It was a way for them to assuage their guilt and still keep the homeless out of their neighborhood. Why did they not prepare and serve the food in their social hall and use the church van to shuttle the homeless people out to the church? Because they didn’t want the homeless to see how nice it was out where they lived and decide to stay.

On one occasion the group feeding the homeless were from a Jesuit college. I offered to arrange transportation of the homeless so they could eat the school cafeteria and stay in the dorms. They wouldn’t take me up on the offer.

KIMCHEE

Homeless can accept cash….

Mike

How about cards? =D

http://www.facebook.com/venetia.mohinani Venetia Mohinani

paris

Illegal to feed the homeless? Give them gift certificates for restaurants or markets and they can feed themselves.

lmm

why should they be forced to go to a restaurant? and most restaurants don’t even let the homeless step half a foot in the place before they are being yelled at to leave. oh, it’s ok to give them money, but not food… of course, because the government realized that they could use the homeless as yet another pawn to get to your money – after all they will have to spend it on food, from which uncle sam will get a cut.

Lee

yeah! why should we force homeless people to go to restaurants?

excellent point! stirring discussion!

http://www.facebook.com/venetia.mohinani Venetia Mohinani

wow!!

Kirk Bruner

This kind of thing will not end until we rid ourselves and our nation of paid, professional politicians that are all on the take from big business. As long as lobbyists are making the laws on behalf of corporations and the so-called representatives are turning into millionaires (WE don’t pay them that kind of money-where’s it coming from?), We The People will suffer. The conservative politicians that are banning the feeding of the poor are the SAME politicians that promoted the whole “faith-based initiatives” movement in the first place. What’s up with that?

Krissyistormy

Get out the frying pans & stew boilers people! If you see you see people DYING from STARVATION .. Feed them!

I would go to jail for helping a starving homeless person the question is, do YOU have the guts to stand up & do what’s right & humane too!

Karen

You are so right! Where is the ACLU?????

Hari

If I go to jail for helping homeless people, so be it. I have karma on my side. The political thugs will reincarnate as dung beetles.

http://www.youtube.com/njkatwoman Christy Kuppler

Good for you, Hari! I feel the same way! You cannot regulate goodness and decency in the hearts of caring, compassionate people!

Karen

Obviously this is a law that deserves to just be ignored. It interferes with the free exercise of religion. I can’t think of a more basic human right than sharing one’s goods with others who are in need.

Maryann Therese Ruelle

Absolutely. My faith tells me that I must obey the government UNLESS their laws contradict God’s laws. This one clearly does. I will follow the Lord’s example~

Maryann Therese Ruelle

You’re absolutely right!

lawyers

Original post by Loan Modification & Home Loan News

hecatesmoon

You know? With all the regulations regarding food and water, I wonder how hard it would be on the typical person if they had to adjust to a little bacteria if we come to a point when the government no longer provides foods pumped with chemicals and tap water with its unregulated chemical contaminants. Bacteria is bad for you, chemicals, antibiotics, and hormones are not. Yyyyyyyep. And what an excellent excuse not to feed the homeless. They might get sick. Its much better they starve.

Grew up on a farm (dairy), amazing when I think of all the contagion I grew up exposed to yet we seldom got sick, seldom went to the doctors and had a successful business selling milk, eggs, and could have sold our hay, manure, etc.
We drank whole milk, our own eggs and had a garden.

http://street-pharmacy.blogspot.com Divemedic

I live in Orlando, and I agree with the ban on feeding the homeless, because it only applies on City property (the city park). Here is the story: the homeless were making it impossible for others to use the park, so the city offered the group the use of another piece of property a short distance away, and even offered to pay for the utilities (water and electric) for the group’s use. The group refused, because the real goal here is to score political points, not feed the homeless.
The problem is that it is impossible for anyone else to use the park while there are scores of homeless people taking a dump in the bushes. Not only that, but the homeless are scaring people away from the area businesses. If you want to feed the homeless on your own property, that is legal.
To those who complain about how the homeless should be taken care of, let me ask you this: Home many homeless people are you allowing to live in your home, or in your neighborhood? None? Then why should you be able to invite them into mine?

edward fuckstick

that is ludicrus city property is not owned by a private corporation it is our property the people who pay taxes to make it happen.by the people for the people. we have the right to do whatever we want to on our land and the powers that be need to learn who puts the dinner on their tables. if the businesses are afraid of the homeless they should start a fund to retrain them & clothe them or give them a bus ticket out of that hell.

luvinmomofone1

my house is open to anyone i feel needs help..a meal or a place to crash! when my son was very small WE were homeless and lived in the car i owned at the time! strangers helped me out of the kindness of thier hearts and helped me get on my feet! now my son is homeless and i cannot help him but he has friends that have been trying to help by letting him sleep at thier houses, on the couch, chair or floor..hes been doing that for 3 years now. thank god hes in rural oklahoma..where i raised him..rather him be homeless there than in a major city..there is just no work there to speak of. so its a catch 22 situation…so open mouth and insert foot! if you have been there yourself you would understand…we give so much..not because we have alot but because we have been to that place where we have had none and someone was willing to help us out!

http://www.youtube.com/njkatwoman Christy Kuppler

I saw a hungry looking, elderly man standing outside the supermarket one day. As I pushed my full cart of groceries toward the car, the sight of him stopped me in my tracks. I took a bananna out of the cart, turned back, walked toward this poor bedraggled old man, and handed him the bananna. His face crinkled up into a thousand wrinkles as he gave me a big toothless grin, and his eyes sparkled as he put the banana in his mouth. He was totally delighted with that humble offering of food that I gave him. At that moment, I swore that I would never turn my back on anyone who needed food, ever again. Even if I don’t have much, I will give half of what I have to someone in dire need.

ME

You are a wonderful human being.

http://www.facebook.com/ahmad.awadallah.7 Ahmad Awadallah

You have a great heart!

Prophet Muhammad has said: “O people! Spread the greeting of peace, feed (the poor and needy), behave kindly to your relatives, offer prayer when others are asleep, and (thus) enter Paradise in peace.”

Edohiguma

Was that after or before he slaughtered everyone who stood against him?

http://twitter.com/morrisadams76 morris adams

ha!!

madeuce42

afterward what do u think he would feed them jeff dahmer would have made a good muslim in life an d the fact he is dead a very good muslim

OBKB

Disgusting. I would befriend a Muslim over a Christian any day.

madeuce42

If u are not muslim you are his enemy how much do u value your head being on the top of your neck. look under you tube sharia law. Have you ever seen 6 and 10 year old girls with their heads cut off?

OBKB

I’m an Atheist and I couldn’t care less what religion anyone is. Plenty of Christians have raped babies and mutilated their genitals. Oh, then there were concentration camps…have you ever seen the pictures from Auschwitz? Good thing I’m not ignorant enough to judge entire religion based on the actions of less than 5% of its followers…

Randal Phillips

OBKB: I I get it. You’re just militantly ignorant. Ever head of Cornelius ten Boom? Ever heard of the Righteous Gentiles? If you want to talk about Auschwitz, you’re going to have to OWN what happened there, because it was the humanist National SOCIALIST party that committed those atrocities, just as it has been atheistic socialists who have committed the atrocities everywhere from St. Petersburg to Havana to the killing fields of Cambodia. Wanna talk about the relgion with blood on it’s hands, pal? Go look in the mirror.

OBKB

Here’s a better example for your simple mind: Rwanda.

Randal Phillips

Oh. Good Obie. Let’s try a diversionary tactic. What next? SQUIRREL?

Ian MacLeod

Here’s another: look up General Eisenhower’s concentration camps: Germans who surrendered to Americans AFTER it was all over as well as before were place in camps with NO food, NO water, NO sanitary facilities, no beds, no NOTHING. They wandered around until fell and died. Religion is NOT the only thing used to commit evil – it’s a human thing.

Ian

Maryann Therese Ruelle

Religion is NOT used to commit evil, it is used to spread love, if the faith is genuine~This is not a religious issue though, it’s a moral issue!

suprmon

Then why didn’t the Christians speak out about slavery for thousands of years if they’re all that?

Maryann Ruelle

In the old and new testament days, having slaves was simply the way it was… And it was nothing like the slavery in the early years of this nation, with some exceptions as in Egypt. But you can go back thousands of years and men have always had slaves,
At the time of the early Christians, their concern was spreading the faith and staying alive, and that included both free man and slaves, working together I might add.

Lily Rose

If you couldn’t care less, then why did you take the time to type that long rant???

OBKB

Just because I’m an Atheist and couldn’t care less what religion someone is, doesn’t mean I don’t care what people say about others’ religion. You seem to think that just because someone’s religion doesn’t matter to me that the subject doesn’t matter to me. That’s pretty ignorant of you.

cookie

Many Catholics died in the concentration camps as well. And many hide jewish neighbors.

Maryann Ruelle

Sounds like you already have….

OBKB

I have many friends of many faiths…my Muslim friends have been nothing short of kind, respectful, and accepting, unlike my Christian friends whom I often have to ask not to judge others in my presence.

Maryann Ruelle

Well it seems to me that the Muslims are showing another side of themselves at this point in history, but I realize that they are in the minority muslims.
No faith is perfect, christianity included, and there will always be those who put on a bad face which affects everyone else… But just as one needs to be open-minded about Muslims and do good things they do, one also has to be open-minded about Christians and do good things they do, which is what this discussion is supposed to be about…. Christians and other well-meaning people being prevented from feeding the homeless.

Maryann Ruelle

Why?

OBKB

Such an open question…why, what? Why do I have friends of many faiths? Because religion doesn’t matter to me. Why are my Muslim friends nothing short of kind? I’m sure the reasons vary for each individual. I can’t really answer for them. Why do I have to ask my Christian friends not to judge others? That has many answers. Despite being obscenely hypocritical, it’s wrong; and it makes me uncomfortable to sit around listening to people who pay so much attention to someone else’s behavior, they fail to look at their own. I see no point in intruding in someone’s past so deeply, that it impedes their future. Why do they do it? I don’t know. I can’t answer for them. I’m guessing there are many answers. From my perspective, ignorance…maybe arrogance.

Maryann Ruelle

And you would be the loser, actually, it sounds like you already are.. And that’s not a put down to you personally, it simply means you’ll never meet our Lord face-to-face.

joe

not me. I value my head. I like to keep it tightly secured to my shoulders so that it stays with me at all times.

Uncle Arty

Muhammad didn’t go looking for wars, Christians made war on him, Christians invaded their lands, not the other way around.

interestedobserver2

Really? So they just peacefully took over the Byzantine Empire, Persia, all of North Africa and the Iberian peninsula, did they? Because the locals invited them in? You’re a complete idiot and full of s**t

Uncle Arty

The Byzatine Empire started that war that lead to their downfall, the Persians were done in by the Greeks, and North Africa and the Iberian peninsulas were civil wars. And I stand by my statement Muhammad didn’t make war on the Christians, the Christians made war on Muslims and Jews, read a f(u)(c)K(i)ing history book some time

interestedobserver2

Yep — you’re a certifiable idiot. Maybe you should stop reading whatever trash you think is “history” and find some real history books, there Uncle A.

Bob King

Hahaha.. You learned some history and resorted to namecalling when it didnt conform to your brainwashing doctrine from some racist.

interestedobserver2

Oooh, look everyone, another certifiable jackass; only this one took seven months to think of something to say. Must be a typical “clever” liberal.

Uncle Arty

The Byzantine empire fell under its own corruption and vices. and Persia transited from a pagan religion to Islam, like other pagans transited into Christianity, sometimes it was pretty on either side, but there is no disputing that far more atrocities were committed under the banner of Christianity than any other religion.

sherri Benson

really? then wtf are yuall doing in america?

Uncle Arty

WTF is that suppose to mean? I didn’t make anything up. You just can’t handle facts? And BTW evolution is fact, the world is older than 6,000 years. And No the devil did not put dinosaur bones here to confuse us. The problem with idiots like you is you refuse to reconcile our own history. Do you even know how many Native Americans were killed just during the expansionist era? Do you even know what George Washington’s policy was on Native Americans? and it’s you all not yuall, but I’m impressed you still know how to spell America, even if you have no Idea what it means

Maryann Ruelle

Then where did the word Jihad come from?
Whether it came from Mohammed or not, it certainly isn’t in the Koran… it seems to me that Muslims have twisted it into their own meaning giving Mohammed the credit and they’re going to continue to do that no matter what super intellectuals like you know about history or not…. And what does any of this marvelous historical background of yours have anything to do with feeding the poor?

Mook

Muhammad was a child rapist

OBKB

The virgin Mary was only 13, so apparently God was, too.

Jimbo

Do you not understand the concept of immaculate conception you fool?
How stupid are you?*Facepalm*

OBKB

Immaculate conception doesn’t exist. If you believe it does, you clearly don’t understand biology. *Facepalm* at not knowing where babies come from.

Jimbo

Paedophile and child rapist Muhammad?

Maryann Ruelle

Will they sure miss read his writing somewhere along the line didn’t they?

Better than nothing. For all you know this person was struggling to feed their own family.

Bob King

Yes, but they said “Even if I don’t have much, I will give half of what I have to someone in dire need.” and unless the bought 2 bananas they failed. I only mention it because it is the fear that they might not be able to provide for themselves and their families that keep people from sharing half of what they have. Obviously working for the money isnt a factor as Gates and Buffet prove having worked a hell of a lot for what they had.

So fear is possibly the problem with sharing and love the antidote, no wait, that sounds like Scientology so it must be wrong.

Harkanwar Singh

the only way to serve god is to serve his creation i.e humanity(Sikh religion)
keep up the good work

Redwoods Gal

Finally something good to read that is not of negative.. Smiles god bless you, My aunt use to feed the homeless when she was alive she be heading into a store to shop either groceries or clothes and she see someone homeless looking hungry she would go up to them and say I don’t trust giving people my money but I would love to go and buy you something to eat whatever you want.. They would tell her and she go and buy it plus some and give out new clothes for them as well.. I picked that up from her, I go and buy food for someone less fortunate then me as well, but I don’t refuse giving them money sometimes, It is not my judgement to call if they don’t buy food with it.. in god’s eyes we are doing the right thing and thats not turning out backs on anyone that is seeking help and is less off then us.. It is very rewarding feeling to feed someone that is hungry thats for sure.. I have also seen such big smiles and its great to see, it lets them know also that not all people are mean and don’t care..And if they banned feeding homeless in my area , I don’t care what they say I will do it anyway even if it meant going to jail.. Cause then the jail can feed and take care of me unlike the one you tried to feed.. Again God bless you and wish to see more like you that would help another…

Guardian Angels of NY

thats what we must all do and its a humble begining .May God bless you

Maryann Ruelle

Praise God for people like you!!

GRIZZ MANN

It is the Democrat war on the homeless. Democrats HOPE the homeless will CHANGE the OCCUPY MOVEMENT in their cities.
Congratulations Democrat FORWARD thinking.

Damoninomad

Jesus would have been arrested with His 5 loaves and 3 fish!

Fawnella

This is just a stupid debate laws be damned I will feed who ever I feel needs a bite to eat and I will go to bed each night knowing I am a good person and that my actions helped make someones life a little better. I was raised to share & to treat others as I want them to treat me as were most properly raised People not just Americans. This is why I ignore most of the political crap can not do a damn thing about it. So why stress over it. I SAY EVERY ONE IGNORE A FEW LAWS AND SHOW THE IDIOTS THAT WE WILL KEEP OUR COUNTRY FREE DESPITE THEM. I think I will cook up a few meals and give them out first thing in the morning this crap just ticks me off.

Semater

This is truly the destruction of America. It is the American way that when our neighbors and fellow americans are in need that we offer them assistance. Not because some government tells us to, but because we want to help each other. Yet now they are trying to make it illegal to do even that, and for the most ridiculous of reasons. I don’t know what they hope to get by doing this, but it will certainly ensure that these Dumbocraps are not re-elected into office.

Gigi

Bureaucrats do NOT make policies thus laws!! The elected politicians do. The job of the bureaucrat is to implement the policies passed by those the people elect. Know your government! Take a class in Public Administration or American Government 101.

http://www.pyservie.com Dan Crandall

We are planning to feed some homeless people in about 6 weeks here in Redding, CA. Hopefully there are no local restrictions here! We (our church) did it last Christmas, and it was very successful. We plan on doing the same next month, and it should receive a warm reception also.

Jo

Do the homeless a bigger favor and feed them 2 weeks before or after Christmas. There is little charity to feed them during these times.

BJ Bell

I can bet this is Republican backed.

BJ Bell

I would venture to say that 90% of the Cities where feeding the homeless is banned are run by a Republican Mayor and a Republican City Council.

I’m just guessing, so some of you Republican statistician’s prove me wrong.

The “Party of the 1%”, the Republicans, is not, never was, and never will be for working class Americans — and certainly not for the homeless.

sascuatch64 HIFH

That guess would be wrong, Houston for one is run by a very liberal Democrat who also happens to be a lesbian. She has really made it hard on the homeless since taking office. Inspiring every poor person to sign up for foodstamps like the Dem’s want is not exactly a cure for the problem. $200 a month in todays economy does not last a whole month.

luvinmomofone1

i should be homeless then..i am disabled and have an income of only 700/m and i am only allowed 82$/m food stamps. by the time i pay my bills i barely have enuff left over to buy new underware or go to the thrift store to buy some clothes if i need them..forget basic med. needs like tylenol for fevers and headaches, ibprofen for my arthrithis and bandaids for cuts..toiletpaper for bathroom ect…ect.. ect..if you think that 200/m isnt enuff to eat on for the month then try only 82/m and see how far that gets you! i can make it streeeeetch maybe if i am lucky 3 weeks..thats eating scarce but at least i am eating! i am diabetic and need to lose weight but cannot buy fresh fruits and veggies as they are too expensive..cannot buy alot of meat either cuase its too expensive..loads of carbs and other bad stuff cause that is the cheap stuff that can stretch! carbs and diabetes are not a good couple to make a match with!! with that note..my son has been homeless since he was 18. he is now 22. been living on couches of friends and gets foodstamps cause he cannot find a job! he had to move out of my home cause i couldnt afford to feed him anymore once he turned 18. tell me how this is fair?

sascuatch64 HIFH

Being homeless I can say that this comes as no suprise to me. The professional moochers have made it rough on the truly needy.

http://www.facebook.com/venetia.mohinani Venetia Mohinani

moon

I am just a nobody with one heart in a crowd of many,but this saddens me.I don’t know much about politics,but,I have been down,and when anyone has assisted me on my path,I was grateful.This planet can be very dark.I think,when I read this,that if those in authority can impose a restriction on generosity,where does the control end?How are we any different from countries where there is no order or diplomacy?Like I said,I am pretty sheltered from politics,and law….but,the life I have lived has been on a sweeping pendulum of experience.From being a victim of the worst imaginable,and homeless at thirteen….to living well above middle-class.I’d rather be poor and empathetic,than ever lose sight of the plight of my fellow man,and simply pretend he is not there.This law is a heavy blanket for a grave issue.

http://www.facebook.com/venetia.mohinani Venetia Mohinani

‘grave’ being the key word

Maryann Therese Ruelle

Amen to that and well said!

Kera Howe

Well if so they arent gonna like me too much starting next tues down at the local park and marina where a lot of homeless congregate anyways… theres NOWHERE for them to get a warm dinner or really any dinner in my town.. and Im going to be carting hot dogs down there every tues and thurs with my 7 year old son… already have a local buisness thats going to give me a box of ketchup packets at cost.. another friend is giving me a cooler to transport… watch out when you see me walkin down the street with a bag lady cart full of supplies cops! cause you sure ARENT going to stop me!

Daniel

Its truely sad what this has become.
Its wrong that we as people Cant feed
The hungry because of stupid laws!

Maybe they should of read the bible
before making this stupid law!

John 6:1-40
&
Matthew 25:31-46

http://www.facebook.com/venetia.mohinani Venetia Mohinani

God has already been taken out of schools… doesn’t that tell you something?

Kitty

God has not been taken out of schools. In fact the Supreme court has upheld the right to student prayer many times. HOWEVER what is taken away is the ability for teachers/other people in authority to indoctrinate children by LEADING or REQUIRING students to pray.

As well He should. Free public schools for all children is a Marxist philosophy. No room for God with Communism.

james

they want to make it to where we cant feed the homeless! where do you think they will go if they stop the soup kitchens or stop people from trying to help them with food.they will start digging in the trash to get what they can . now they want to worry bout it not being sanitary. how unsanitary is that what kinda of diseases could the homeless contract by doing that. now that not only affects the homeless but the basic population it could be the starting point of the next plague

http://www.facebook.com/venetia.mohinani Venetia Mohinani

its apparently what the government wants, part of their way of ensuring depleting populations

http://www.wvwnews.net Bob B F

Are these bans about feeding homeless just about setting up soup lines in front of city hall or in parks? City govs can sure be bullheaded, but if they are allowing the food kitchens some other way (at a church, home, or business), then it’s not as bad as it sounds from this article. Still pretty bad though, when unemployment is at an all time high, and the gubbermint and churches want to give away their birthright to hostile foreigners (illegal aliens). It would be better if “the jobs Americans won’t do” (ROFL, Americans will do jobs when they are hungry, or if the wages are good) go to homeless Americans looking for work, rather than mexicans and africans looking for a new home.

http://www.facebook.com/venetia.mohinani Venetia Mohinani

if the government is not making sure everyone is fed, clothed and sheltered, they should APPRECIATE the goodness of those who try to help the poor…. very pathetic government you have

Jim

This is not right and not sure if any religious organizations knows about the RLUIPA Act of 2000 put in to place by George Bush. Check this our http://www.rluipa.org and this will tell you it is legal to feed on public property. You will have to follow health code laws and as mentioned in previous comments most cities have adopted a permit law to use the parks. Good Luck!

James

“We are supposed to be a land of liberty and freedom, but these days government bureaucrats have turned our rights into “privileges” that they can revoke at any time.”

Whose fault is it for letting them behave in this fashion for so long? OUR fault.

Been all kinds of countries going off recently with protesting the status quo and outright **************.

Follow suit and quit making George Washington question why He and his men even bothered.
It’s time to take the trash out.

Renita

This makes me so sad. I want to know what this U.S.A. is coming to. It appear that anything good is banned for one reason or another. Well Jesus said to take care of the poor cause in doing so you take care of him. When these people that are banning taking care of the homeless are in this situation I wanna know how they feel. Cause “YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW”.

Traverse W. Andrews

well..they can arrest me..i just made a bunch of sack lunches that im planning on handing out to the homeless
tommorrow. the reasons are..its the right thing to do and i was once out there..i know how much it means to get a sandwich,a cup of coffee, a blanket. and someones going try to stop me? i dont think so. ill be out there. because i’ve BEEN out there. if someone objects, thats their problem.

Maryann Therese Ruelle

Good for you Traverse!! I’ve been taking things to the homeless for some time now, and I’ll be damned if someone is going to make me stop. We are obligated to observe the law of the land if it doesn’t oppose the higher law of God. And even our government isn’t observing the law of the land!!

Jean Pittenger

AND WHEN THEY LET YOU OUT OF JAIL GO OUT AND DO IT AGAIN

Jean Pittenger

MABY WE SHOULD ALL QUIT OUR JOBS AND JOIN THEM AND QUIT PAYING TAXES THEN THE GOVERNMENT WILL FEEL HUNGER AND WRETCHED POOR IF WE NO LONGER PAY TAXES AND NOT WORK AND JUST RAISE OUR OWN MEAT AND FOOD WE CAN DO IT BAN TOGETHER AND RAISE CHICKENS COWS VEGETABLES ECT… LETS GET TOGETHER AND DO THIS IF WE BAN TOGETHER AND GROW STUFF AND RAISE BEEF MEAT I BET WE CAN SURVIVE THIS

unity100

It isnt government ‘bureaucracy’ that is doing this. it is the crooked, self-focused, self-interest culture you fostered over last 2 centuries. The selfishness culture which you have come to label as ‘freedom’, ‘self reliance’ and other IRRELEVANT termage to justify. Good for you !!! You have matured into a society of full blown assholes at last ! Rejoice !!

Janice

Statistics show that one third of the American population is just a few paychecks away from being homeless. The reality is, the separation between a homeless person and the average American, is miniscule. A layoff, illness or a bad divorce could happen to any of us.

I read in the Dallas morning news, today, that 2 of Dallas’ homeless died on Christmas night. A man was found dead outside a church food pantry and a woman found dead outside the Dallas Convention Center.

For the past 24 years, my friends and I have given food and clothing to the homeless on Christmas Day. It’s a grass-roots effort that we’ve casually named, Christmas for the Homeless. Our mission is to provide wrapped, warm clothing and food to the homeless that aren’t in shelters. The Bridge and other shelters do a very good job of providing housing to many, but there are still individuals for whom there is either no room or who are ineligible or unable to enter a shelter.

Before I had any experience with the homeless, I felt certain that the homeless community was comprised primarily of drug addicts/alcoholics and the mentally ill. Individuals with those afflictions are certainly present in the groups we serve, but, we also see families where the breadwinner has lost a job, Vets with post traumatic stress disorder and people who used their meager savings to travel to Dallas for a job, but once they arrived, they discovered the job no longer existed. Additionally, we encounter the mentally ill, some of whom have feelings of being imprisoned when inside the confines of shelter settings and some for whom being a part of traditional society is simply unbearable.

This year, a few hours into our delivery, we were stopped by 2 Dallas police officers. They were kind, but delivered very disturbing news: a city ordinance had passed prohibiting our type of giving. They explained the reasons for the ordinance: trash left behind when the homeless are done eating and possible health and food safety violations. They told us that we could go to shelters and work through the shelters to provide food to the homeless, there.

I have no idea how the people we fed and gave dry blankets and coats to during the sleet and snow on Christmas day fared after we left them. Many of them sleep on sidewalks in the industrial parts of Dallas. Cardboard boxes, that most of us would toss away without a 2nd thought, are the only barrier between their bodies and the cold, damp concrete.

We were all soaked and so very cold when we finished delivering. We piled into heated cars, leaving behind people who didn’t have the luxury of getting dry or warm.

As for the ordinance, I know I will not be able to abide by it’s restrictive nature. I have never found myself wanting to take back an act of kindness or compassion. I do, however, feel a lingering pang of regret when I avert my eyes, so as to avoid acknowledging another’s existence.

ICO A Voice For Men

What this article DOES NOT TELL YOU: is that these homeless are overwhelmingly men.

On the other hand, a homeless woman, turned away at a homeless shelter, can go to the nearest police and cry “RAPE!” or “I’s binn beated!” and be routed to the nearest ER or VAWA funded (yours mine and ours tax dollars) battered womens shelter for a meal and a place to lay down… in exchange for accusing one of these homeless men of vile acts against her decency.

The men on the other hand… freeze to death on park benches or are victimized by roving gangs of juvenile delinquents.

http://www.facebook.com/venetia.mohinani Venetia Mohinani

laurie

that rarely happens because most women don’t want to jump thru the hoops they have to if they do that. You sound like a very bitter man who’s been hurt by somebody. seek counseling.

You people just don’t seem to get it?
At the last supper Jesus provided & served his followers
Satan & sons are just the opposite,self-centered with
Evil Murderous Hate & Apathy that they have instilled
into their Tares in the Wheat that they should be served
by the followers and believers of Jesus that now coward
when jackboot criminal thugs with badges & guns come
with their Masters Law to slap them/Jesus in the face
so they can watch a man or woman suffer unto a horror
of a unsaved 1st & 2nd Death Damnation.
What would Jesus Do? A: Rev 19:11-21

tiredofthebullshit

This has been happening in Calgary Alberta for several years to one particular organization known as “Street Church” They are a christian ministry who feeds the homeless 2 days a week in front of City Hall. Last year the City of Calgary secretly passed (without public consult) 30M2012 a bylaw which references “Street Church” in it and refuses to allow them the right to feed the homeless without a permit and offers several other ludicrous restrictions. When did charity become a business for the municipality and a crime for the people who do what the municipality refuses to? Welcome to Government strategic population control measures. If they are not contributing let them starve to death seems to be the new philosophy.

Welcome to the Communited States of America compliments of your dictator Mr. Obama. Should you choose to exercise free speech be prepared to become Obama’s Bitch.

disqus_nftD4kJ8cN

If they can make money off of it, they will. Haprer needs to create a country of criminals to fill his super prisons. Sad the very same people who claim to be men of God are they ones exacting crimes against humanity.

Oscar Benson

Has been this way for centuries!!

your sister

Shame on those that can think about such laws and put them in action & shame on those who follow them! Your hearts are meant to be used, that is what makes you HUMAN !

no1pinkpanther

So… Are they going to “Criminalize” the likes of The Salvation Army whose founding Motto basically was “you can’t preach to a man who has a hungry stomach” (Paraphrased – from the very mouth of William Booth, The Founder of The Salvation Army)! Oh – The Salvation Army probably have any legally necessary permits, but… In his day, William Booth was just one Methodist preacher! So what is the US saying? One good man like William Booth can’t feed another? Can’t buy a starving human being a Big Mac & a cup of coffee?! All Governments have gone too far with their rules and regulations! It’s time to stop making one bad rule after another!!

kevin calegari

It doesn’t matter. We are all called to charity and to love our neighbors following the example of Christ. I would be honored to be persecuted for doing good like this because I know it is Christ who is being denied and persecuted as well. Our reward will be amazing. Do not fear the minions of satan. God is much more powerful!

http://www.facebook.com/pandora114 Monique Boulanger

Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses? BAH! Humbug… /citygubmints.

Danganbeg

Until about a year ago, I never thought to wonder why Americans moved to live in my country. [They are welcome: 17% of the population,according to the 2012 census, were born abroad] However recently I have been asking. Most told me that they came to Ireland, or other European countries, to study and found that life here is just so, so much better.

http://profile.yahoo.com/LLLKLDDOAT3JGECF6WGESHBL7Y Alii

it’s not the gov doing this, it’s the rich controlling the gov, they want the poor and homeless to just disappear. And it’s not about religion, it’s about compassion, which the rich have very little of.

david95

They are one in the same today.

Julian

it’s not control freakery, it’s about blaming the poor

Frustrated 1

This article amazes me. I’m writing a reply from a friends computer. I’m a very lucky old man. I’m not yet homeless, but I am disabled. I know what it feels like to go hungry….I try to eat 1 meal a day, but of late it’s been 1 meal every 3rd or 4th day. I didn’t qualify for food stamps, go figure. Our govt. can send all the aid it wants to other nations. I’m all for helping others. What I want to know is, whatever happened to helping our own 1st? I’m out of work (disabled) out of savings. I’m not asking for pity or charity. I’d work for a decent meal…even though I’m disabled. Even disabled, old people like me have a place in our society.

david95

” Even disabled, old people like me have a place in our society.”

I agree with you, even if Government doesn’t.

Maryann Ruelle

Being in just about the same position, I agree completely. Even if I weren’t though, I’d agree. We have to take care of our own, and EVERYONE is our own. I’m so very sorry that your meal situation is as desperate as it is.
May God richly bless you in times ahead~

deborah23

i simply can not believe what i have just read, i am appalled and flabbergasted, at this ridiculous ban. i live in the UK, and think this is totally disgusting, it is a basic human right to have food and shelter yet your government is banning the feeding of the homeless because of sanitation, and not nutritional enough !!! then let them go homeless and with out food for long periods of time, i’m sure then they would understand that a simple act of kindness of even just a sandwich can save a life and let the homeless person know that there are people out there who care about them unlike their government.

http://www.facebook.com/johnny.recycle Johnny Recycle

I disagree Deb,
Food, is Not a human right.
To live is.

An example. I grow my food. You do not. Please explain this “right” you claim to my effort. Explain the origin of debt you place on me?
I do not claim “rights” to something You effort to.

http://www.facebook.com/johnny.recycle Johnny Recycle

and for all you name callers before you start,,, I Was Homeless for 3 yrs. Not in some nice, warm, full of government program place like the states. northern Canada, and I had a garden outside the city to help me eat and make funds to live.
Also to feed my friends not fearing “regulations” like what this topic is.
We are discussing government regulating compassion, are we not. That is not a right but a virtue and most have not this.

Amanda

This is so screwed up!!! My ministry is feeding the homeless!! I do it alone and by my own funds…I thought about giving out food cards (like to denny’s) but believe it or not some will actually deny them service. I will continue to feed them and if you want to fine me, go for it. Throw me in Jail but no one has the right to tell anyone they can’t offer a sandwich! They can refuse if they think it is tainted… honestly anyone out there feeding them is doing it out of their heart!! I tried to open a soup kitchen once but the paperwork and all the legal stuff and cost… with no funding was way over my head. So I have given up my home, etc. .. travel around in a mini rv and feed people. Our country has really hit the bottom of the crapper!

Amanda

“Some cities are doing these things because they are concerned about the “health risks” of the food being distributed by ordinary “do-gooders”. ”

REALLY???? Come on now…. and where do they think they would get their food if not by a do-gooder? The trash bin… and that has no heath risks?? WAKE up!!

reality

i believe in helping ppl and i do on a regular basis but ive lived here in the same spot in kansas city for the last 3 yrs and most of the homeless around dont need help because they choose to not accept programs that will help them so weve started doing the same thing and calling the cops on the ppl that leave food hanging on fences and setting up tables to feed…..well the trash ends up all over our lot and the street and if they want to help then take the homeless to your part of town and open the church to them and i also now of 4 people that show up at shelters and feeding and they have a home and food. i manage a building and have tenants to protect so i watch everything like a hawk because of the neighborhood.yes we should help ppl but you all need to know and understand that most have chosen to stay homeless and refuse help and i for one am not ok with that because ive been homless and nobody to turn to in a city i wasnt from. currently i am a building manager and theatre tech for a performance art space and running a business on the side and all because i accepted the help offered and sources available……i hate the gov cuz its trash and ppl have let them have to much control but its not anybodies job to help the homeless,its their job to accept the help when available….self responsibilty

http://www.facebook.com/people/Louise-Price/1506365673 Louise Price

If you stop to think about it, government is all about enforcement–traffic speeds and tickets, housing–what you can build and where and the list goes on. I think it is incidental if the government regulation does the average person any good.

http://www.facebook.com/lloding Laura Curry Loding

I belong to a small community boosters club, and we had a food bank for over 20 years. The restrictions got to the point that that the time it would take to get the food to the people in need it would have required an army of volunteers.. We are just as small group trying to make a difference, and the local food bank distribution facilities made it impossible.

AlaskaCrabber

Are there any laws against disposing of food in clean “Waste receptacles”?

http://www.facebook.com/christine.budnack Christine Budnack

This is just BS pure and simple, nobody has the right to tell me I cannot help someone. You got your nasty little rule then fine, I’ll invite him to come into YOUR restaurant with me and buy him lunch or give him money so he can go in himself. Gonna outlaw that? People having lunch?

StandUP-America

Don’t forget Seattle, WA banned feeding homeless as well!!! When have we become a nation that makes it illegal to do the most basic of things… like caring for another human???

http://twitter.com/anonworker anonworker

I will not follow immoral laws, ever.

Sabrina

This is insane. I live in Philadelphia and I see homeless people everyday. Tomorrow my friends and I are ignoring this law and delivering sandwiches as we walk around downtown.

david95

Watch it. They may start shooting on site.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=535907542 Occupy Tabs

cause that’s how we roll in ‘Merika!

LOL

SimCity taught me about this, cut off their food supply and their places to eat and they’ll go away.

LOL

sleep*

Shaun Mayfield

If you do not KNOW your RIGHTS, you have none!

“The constitution of the United States is the supreme law of the land. Any in conflict is null and void of law. MARBURY V. MADISON, 5 U.S. 137.

Can the state arbitrarily convert a secured liberty, in this case the right to feed someone, into a privilege, and issue a license and fee for it? NO:

“No state may convert a secured liberty into a privilege, and issue a license and fee for it”. MURDOCK v. PENNSYLVANIA, 319 U.S. 105

If a state does attempt to convert the right into a privilege and attempts to issue a license and fee for the exercise of that privilege; can it be enforced as law? NO:

“If the state does convert a right into a privilege and issue a license and charge a fee for it, you can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right with impunity”. SHUTTLESWORTH V. BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA, 373 U.S. 262

Did you willfully and with intent violate the law? NO:

“Willfulness is one of the major elements, which is required to be proven in any criminal element. You will have to prove (1) that you are the party (2) that you had a method or opportunity to do the thing, and (3) that you did so with willful intent. Willful is defined as an evil motive or intent to avoid a known duty or task under the law.” U.S. v. BISHOP, 412 U.S. 346

Todd Parker

Time to break the law, then. There is no moral imperative to follow laws that are in clear violation of basic morality; indeed, the moral imperative is to violate them at every possible opportunity and make outcasts of any and all who respect, enforce, and author them.

Skye Sterling

This article is garbage. It is filled with unsubstantiated claims, such as “In America today, it seems like almost everything is illegal” and “This is just another example that shows that our country is being taken over by control freaks.”

Whoever wrote this needs to leave America for once in their life and visit a developing country. Then, revise this article.

Also, helping homeless people is not such a cut-and-dry issue, as the makers of these laws understand. The charitable person deprives themselves of resources and receives no value in return. This makes him/her stronger. The receiver of the charity receives value having done nothing for it. This makes /him/her weaker. While giving a homeless person food has the short-term effect of
alleviating his/her hunger, it also can create a dependence on this type
of charity in respect to the long – term.

Yes, it is an unpopular argument. But I hope you have at least considered it thoroughly if you decide I’m an idiot.

Zachary S Blom

Giving a homeless person food can also provide the nourishment and support to pick themselves up out of their situation. What you seem to be insinuating is that people will stay homeless for free food, which is irrational at best. Your logic can also be applied to absolve yourself from holding a door open for someone, helping them to their car with their groceries, pulling over when you see an accident with no emergency vehicles in sight, etc. Is the notion of helping somebody really that vulgar to you?

How disappointing would Jesus be if he shared your philosophy? He was the son of God who could turn water into wine. Why didn’t he just open a bar? Better yet, how disappointing would Superman be if he shared your philosophy?

I hope you consider this thoroughly before you decide you aren’t for advocating such a stance. No Man Is An Island.

Well then they’d have to arrest me…I live to feed those who cannot feed themselves…I am low income and I receive food stamps when I heard that a battered womens shelter experienced a flood and lost all their food I took $70 dollars of my food stamps and bought food and snacks for the kids…wasn’t much but I did what i could do with what i had. I have even been known to see a homeless person, turn around, go to the store, buy lunch meat bread and juice and give it to them (i even bought dog food once cause the man had a dog lol). But it just tugs at my heart because who is to say that one day that won’t be you, or me and my daughter? I just hope that if i’m ever in a situation that my fellow man would find it in their heart to help out….xoxo

-Treasure Davis

amonynus

thats messed up why should they banned feeding the homeless. one day they are gonna end up homeless and wished they never banned fedding the homeless </3

Anonymous

Illegal to give them food? Is it illegal to invite them for dinner too?

david95

I think it’s just illegal to “help” people in general now.

JPRocks

Mayor Nutter. Says it all really.

Mook

A cold snap last winter got rid of our homeless.

Daniel

Feed the homeless even if it’s illegal. If you are doing what is right you shouldn’t care if it is illegal. People should be guided by what is right and wrong not what is legal or illegal. The law will inevitably make doing what is right illegal and doing what is wrong legal because the law is not guided by moral notions. I hope people won’t be complacent to the the law’s immorality and take everything the law says for granted.

OBKB

I wouldn’t even regard such a “law”. They can go ahead and take me to jail. If I see a hungry person, I make sure they eat. I won’t allow anyone to tell me what I can and can’t do with the food I paid for.

aoism

When an intoxicated homeless man with food allergies eats something he is allergic to and dies, I’m sure you will wish you got a permit that details the proper way to feed the needy and how to handle that situation. Also , it gives the city and other people an opportunity to have homeless advocates present, to enroll the homeless in longer term meal/housing plans, and to provide counseling services. You might feed a person for 1 day – but what about the other 364 days?

Uncle Arty

It is everyone’s responsibility to make as many bag lunches as you can put together, take them to a park, and find a cop look him right in the eye and tell him you intend to give them out to as many homeless people you can find and dare him to stop you

Ariel Rainault

Hello~ I live in NH. In my area there are not a lot of homeless but they do exist. I have been doing a lot of research on homelessness and why people become homeless. I myself, have been homeless before. I have noticed in certain areas it is illegal to feed the homeless. What is more striking is some of those people are children! I am trying to start a program called ‘Everyones Picnic’. From what I know, picnics are not illegal. And if I were to orchestrate people to set up these picnics in different areas then no one should get harassed for simply trying to eat. This program will give back self-esteem to many and also food in their bellies. If anyone has any ideas on who I can go to get this lifted off I would surely like to hear from them…please contact me at LadyMaverik@gmail.com ((I can no longer tolerate starving children, or the demonization of human beings)) Sincerely, Ariel!

Lily Rose

How did this end up being a RELIGIOUS mud fight? There are no words that can express how disgustingly reprehensible you all are.

JustJessiD

Why do we have so many homeless people in America and so many empty homes? Corruption and Greed. I will continue to feed someone who is hungry if I have the means to do so! Screw the politicians!

Jimbo

Just do it anyway,feed homeless people everywhere,the American prisons are overcrowded anyway,what will they do arrest you?
Land of the free?
What an absolute joke,thank God I’m from the UK!

What we DID with them was turn them into a great nation, trusting in God, a quite prosperous until the past 40 years give or take, when the powers that be started sending all our jobs overseas out of greed. That’s what we did with them, and we could do it again. United States Steel just last month FINALLY started American operations again.
Made in America needs to come to mean something and then we will be able to feed them once again.
The issue is, we have people willing and wanting to feed them, and they are being prevented from doing so.

Maryann Ruelle

What we DID with them was build the greatest, proudest, most powerful nation, UNDER GOD, on earth. When greed and immorality began taking over 40 years ago, give or take, and all our American jobs were sent overseas, and we stopped taking care of our own, we created the situation we now have.
Unless we turn ourselves around and become once again a people of morality and principle and most of all faith, we will fall.

megagirl

Our government will send food to other countries but we cannot feed our own homeless that they refuse to take care of. Disgusting

Maryann Therese Ruelle

megagirl, and everone else~I’ve struggled for 3 years to get people to make moves to care for the homeless in my area of Michigan. They are finally beginning to listen, although there is still a long way to go.
To me, it seems that this ban on feeding the homeless with all the lame excuses given is another step in taking our religious freedoms from us.
Granted feeding the homeless is not necessarily a religious issue, but it is one of the things Christians are mandated to do. The only solution I can see, and it applies to all the freedoms being taken from us, is that we have to FIGHT. And to do that, groups need to join and fight with one voice~

Ian MacLeod

“Back in January, 40,000 new laws
went into effect all over America. The politicians continue to hit us
with wave after wave of regulations and laws with no end in sight.”

Allow me to simplify this: it’s a TAKEOVER. There IS NO OTHER WORD. Don’t forget there’s a depopulation agenda in effect – Henry Kissinger’s National Policy group came up with it in 1074 and it was immediately adopted – quietly, of course. The U.N. calls it Agenda 21 (or it’s part of Agenda 21); others have other words and phrases, but it amounts to the same thing: a)killing off the “useless eaters,” and b) said useless eaters are to equal 90% of the populace. Getting Americans used to obeying useless, damaging or downright EVIL orders is part of the project, so they can be ordered onto trains to take them to the concentration camps when the time comes.

So in the “Land of the free, home of the brave,” people are not allowed to feed those who have been made poor and even homeless by the same lying, thieving super-rich “elites” who have destroyed the economy and the value of the dollar, we are not ALLOWED to feed to the poor and homeless. Presumably we are to let them starve. We are ORDERED TO.

“Government of the People, by the People, and for the People.” *sigh* It just never mentioned WHICH people, did it? How could we have known they were referring only to the rich? And by the way – THIS IS EVIL!!

Ian

Maryann Therese Ruelle

To those who have criticized those of us who mention faith as a reason for feeding the homeless, it is. It is a mandate of Jesus Christ. However, this is not a religious issue it’s a moral issue~

david95

Religious/moral bah. People are starving to death, call it whatever you wish, but don’t let them starve.

fosil yakıt

goverment closed homeless

david95

Hello King Government. Is it OK if I pick their DEAD BODIES off the ground to bury them after they starve? Or will I get thrown in jail for that too?

I really am beginning to hate you guys with a passion.

david95

Where are you? I’m moving near you.

david95

yea, Hitler let them die much quicker and less painfully than America is. Starving to death has to be one of the worst ways to die.

david95

Don’t worry. I’ll bring some cards for us to play since I will be your cell mate.

david95

EVERYONE. And I mean EVERYONE. Go get something to eat and take it to the homeless. They cannot incarcerate all 300 million of us.

david95

Governments love to make a law for a certain thing. Then later expand that law to cover everything.

Jean Pittenger

if you lose your compassion for these homeless hungry then you will be a goat in God’s eyes here’s the scripture better take heed to it because he is returning soon.

31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

King James Version (KJV)

Maryann Therese Ruelle

Absolutely Jean, but I,m amazed at the fact ( and I pray I’m wrong,) that the Christians aren’t joining and taking a stand together on this. The Mayors offices couldn’t put them all in jail. This is clearly a situation in which Christians are obligated to follow God’s law over man’s law…consequences be damned!,

Maryann Ruelle

I applaud all of those willing to risk anything to feed the homeless and follow our Lords commands, we must ask the Holy Spirit for guidance, not HIDE our unity in following Him, not give in to the religious persecution we now face and feed the homeless, clothe the poor, spread His word, show our faith with our lifestyles and not be brow beaten by anyone to keep quiet about our God, and our Savior. We must not do our work in secret, nor bow down to the persecution we now face, with Christ, we must meet it with the courage of the Holy Spirit and stand together as the Body of Christ~

meowmix

somehow this discussion went from something nice to the evils of dissecting religious views? shame on all of you!

Maryann Ruelle

meowmix, you are absolutely right. While Christians are mandated to respond to the needs of the homeless, this is a HUMAN responsibility and should be seen as such~

cecil

I was homeless for 5 years and I ate because of kind people and churches. Our government don’t care about us Americans but they pay to feed the people of other countries.

Rosalund

Read your bible about feeding the hungry. Our country is in sad shape but it is made up of people! Stand up and say NO MORE.

Maryann Ruelle

In the sooner the better Rosalynn, in this case I have to say Christians need to be absolutely ashamed, why haven’t we banded together much much sooner than now… And we haven’t done it yet… We need to begin an organization with a name like ‘No More’
Anyone interested?

Kalar Walters

The only upside to all of this “control” is that it might possibly force a closer examination of issues, not just this one. Discernment might result and that’s always a good thing.

s thomas

Why not just get a permit?

Maryann Ruelle

S. Thomas… Wouldn’t it be wonderful if that were all the work to it? The sad fact is Mr. Thomas. they don’t want the homeless to get fed, they want to get rid of them.
Is others have said though, those of us who work Christian
Duty-bound to join together and feed them anyway… One man’s law interferes with God’s law ,God’s law takes precedence… They certainly can’t put everyone in jail!