So I just checked out a pair of aboslutelu gorgeous shotguns. One is an skb model 885 trap and the other is the target model. Absolutely flawless guns, both over unders, 12g with amazing engraving and perfect stocks. Both have raised vented ribs and wow. I have never seen guns this beautiful. Here's my question. What are guns like that worth? Very low round count, and virtually show room new looks. Any ideas? Please and thank you guys. I'd like to get into clay shooting but guns this beautiful I don't know.... I'd be afraid to scratch them they're so nice. They appear to be VERY high quality.

XDshooter

09-03-2012, 10:33 PM

All I know is that if I owned a Beretta SO10 EELL, I'd shoot the piss out it.

BigDogatPlay

09-03-2012, 11:09 PM

My Blue Book shows SKB 885 Trap in either 30 or 32 inch barrels. $1650 for 100% condition ranging down to $595 for 60%. Last MSRP when they stopped coming into the country was $1949. The Field model, which could be what you identify as a "Target" model, runs about the same money in similar conditions to the Trap.

SKBs are very nice guns and lock up like a bank vault. A trap model should be good for many tens of thousands of shots with not a lot of maintenance beyond what you'd normally do for any shotgun. Be sure the gun(s) fit you well before you lay your money down. Don't worry about wear or scratching. While these guns are no doubt exquisite in their workmanship, they are made to be fired and enjoyed.

Thefeeder

09-03-2012, 11:31 PM

So I just checked out a pair of aboslutelu gorgeous shotguns. One is an skb model 885 trap and the other is the target model. Absolutely flawless guns, both over unders, 12g with amazing engraving and perfect stocks. Both have raised vented ribs and wow. I have never seen guns this beautiful. Here's my question. What are guns like that worth? Very low round count, and virtually show room new looks. Any ideas? Please and thank you guys. I'd like to get into clay shooting but guns this beautiful I don't know.... I'd be afraid to scratch them they're so nice. They appear to be VERY high quality.

Just the tip of the iceberg.

Look around this site for a while.......these are all hand done with hammer and chisel

http://angelobeeguns.com/

Gothboy

09-04-2012, 6:01 AM

@xd shooter I suppose you're right, I mean what good is such a beautiful piece of equipment if you're afraid to use it. Makes me think of the guys who buy custom built 50+ thousand dollar harleys to sit in their living room lol. "The ironing is delicious." -Bart Simpson

@Big Dog Thank you very much, I had no idea that hunting and sporting shotguns could run such prices, yet just looking at them, Im really not surprised. It's good to know that their quality matches their beauty. With such good words about them, I will take a closer look at them, as no doubt anyone would be proud to own such fine pieces.

@The Feeder Holy cow! it just gets nicer and nicer! It looks as though I have stumbled into a corner of firearms that I had no idea existed! I mean we all love our guns, but to have one engraved with such masterful art is simply extraordinary! Mr. Bee is simply amazing! His work makes me think of such artistic expressions as the Sistine chapel. Absolute marvels for the eye, and no doubt the hands as well.

Thank you guys very much for the education. :) It's never too late to learn something new!

Zartan

09-04-2012, 7:46 AM

:useless:

RP1911

09-04-2012, 8:50 AM

You can easily drop thousands on a Perazzi

www.perazzi.it

http://www.gunsinternational.com/Perazzi-Shotguns.cfm?cat_id=650

Gothboy

09-04-2012, 10:02 AM

@MH Shooter I KNOW!!! And you're right! :) I feel the same. I just cant seem to get the crappy pix off my phone and onto your screen. :/

@Rp 1911 Holy cow man! Someone on that second website went crazy with the zero machine! Dude! There's a 4 gun set for $285,000!!!!!!!!!! Serious? WOW!!! Thats like $70,000 per gun! I had no idea that shotgun afficianados would or could spend that kind of roll on their guns! Impressive as hell to say the least. :)

RP1911

09-04-2012, 11:26 AM

Some of the stocks alone are worth several thousand. I have a friend that is into Perazzis, they have their unique target audience.

BigDogatPlay

09-04-2012, 1:51 PM

And in the "when you have to ask what it costs, you can't afford it" department there is Kolar Arms (http://www.kolararms.com/). Hand made American craftsmanship through and through that rivals Italian guns, with extra barrel sets starting at ~$4K.

Perazzi, Kolar, Caesar Guerini (http://www.gueriniusa.com/), even higher end Beretta and Browning guns, can and will set you back tens of thousands, sometimes hundreds of thousands. But for those prices you are getting a hand made gun that will last many lifetimes of shooting and customer care that is so far above the industry it isn't funny.

But all fancy stuff aside, they are made to be shot and they do so magnificently.

bjl333

09-04-2012, 2:28 PM

Go here for some nice guns >>> http://www.pacificsportingarms.com/

XDshooter

09-04-2012, 3:20 PM

@Rp 1911 Holy cow man! Someone on that second website went crazy with the zero machine! Dude! There's a 4 gun set for $285,000!!!!!!!!!! Serious? WOW!!! Thats like $70,000 per gun! I had no idea that shotgun afficianados would or could spend that kind of roll on their guns! Impressive as hell to say the least. :)

$70K per gun is nothing.

Some guns run well over $100K. A Beretta SO10 EELL for example runs $120K, give or take.

The money is all the hand work that goes into the engraving, wood selection, carving. Mostly hand fitted parts as well.

ysr_racer

09-04-2012, 5:27 PM

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL856/883856/24173118/403718176.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL856/883856/24173118/403718177.jpg

sigsr

09-05-2012, 11:22 AM

$70K per gun is nothing.

Some guns run well over $100K. A Beretta SO10 EELL for example runs $120K, give or take.

The money is all the hand work that goes into the engraving, wood selection, carving. Mostly hand fitted parts as well.

Wow. Even if I was a billionaire, I would think long and hard before throwing that kind of money on a shotgun.

Gothboy

09-05-2012, 12:07 PM

DOOOOOOOOOD! This is almost insane! I mean there are ferrarris for car entusiasts, so I get it because they go fast, but I never even had a hint to suspect there might be a similar niche' in the firearms industry, aside from collecting antique guns. Those are SO freakin beautiful im at a loss for words!!! NOW I understand. It really is incredible though, I must admit. TRULY something you all have amazed me with guys! Thank you. Makes me wonder if those guys have climate controlled gun vaults too. I probably would. :D

BigDogatPlay

09-05-2012, 12:38 PM

Wow. Even if I was a billionaire, I would think long and hard before throwing that kind of money on a shotgun.

If you appreciate fine firearms as much as you do now, if you were a billionaire you'd drop that kind of money in a heartbeat.

:)

mif_slim

09-05-2012, 12:58 PM

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL856/883856/24173118/403718177.jpg

Only 185,000?? Not too shabby....

yeah, right...it better have GPS built-in, Clay seeking, thermo/nightvision capability and also come with a Drone....

But, beauty? Yes! :D

44fred

09-05-2012, 1:52 PM

Go here for some nice guns >>> http://www.pacificsportingarms.com/

These guys are great!
I bought my Beretta 687 Pigeon II from them. They treated me like gold even though the gun I bought was the bottom of the barrel for them (2K).
I spent an hour loitering in the back room after my purchase with my wife and a buddy who made the 1 1/2 drive to their store. We were left unattended, while they waited on other customers.
Can't say good enough things about them.

Newshooter

09-05-2012, 4:12 PM

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL856/883856/24173118/403718176.jpg

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL856/883856/24173118/403718177.jpg

That's nothing...for $185K you get a matched set.

Bass Pro in Vegas had a 20/28 ga combo, Purdey gun for $250K. At least you got two sets of barrels with that one.

Darto

09-06-2012, 12:40 AM

I noticed Perazzis in the olympics.

KWalkerM

09-06-2012, 1:15 AM

call me tasteless, but i like a plane jane gun. its not about what it looks like, its about how ou shoot it. ill stick to my mossy oak duck blind Winchester SX3 thank you very much. costs more the the blue book price of the guns OP is looking at and will shoot just as well even if it doesnt look as nice. im also not afraid to put in a swamp for duck hunting like i would one of those guns

Gothboy

09-06-2012, 5:27 AM

@K walker I was just surprised that such a market existed, though I guess I shouldnt have been lol. Not to be rude though bro, by definition, anything in mossy oak disqualifies itself as plain jane in appearance. That's not tasteless, you just know what you like. :)

And on these high priced guns there is no need to worry about round count - 100s of thousands are common.

CSACANNONEER

09-08-2012, 9:14 AM

And on these high priced guns there is no need to worry about round count - 100s of thousands are common.

According to what I see in the calgun's marketplace, I thought all guns lost 90% of their resale value after 200 rounds????

daveinwoodland

09-08-2012, 9:25 AM

According to what I see in the calgun's marketplace, I thought all guns lost 90% of their resale value after 200 rounds????
:beatdeadhorse5::rofl2::rofl2:

bsg

09-08-2012, 1:26 PM

According to what I see in the calgun's marketplace, I thought all guns lost 90% of their resale value after 200 rounds????

sometimes in the Marketplace they even gain 90% over their resale value after 200 rounds.

Gothboy

09-10-2012, 5:29 AM

@ .300Weatherby How much would a stock like the one you posted go for? Just randomly curious here since its made of sexy and all.

@bsg I think CSA may be referring to the avreage gun, though this is also purely an objective observation aswell. I can easily imagine the higher end guns gaining some value with age and proven break in with no...er...breaks. :)

bsg

09-10-2012, 9:07 PM

@ .300Weatherby How much would a stock like the one you posted go for? Just randomly curious here since its made of sexy and all.

@bsg I think CSA may be referring to the avreage gun, though this is also purely an objective observation aswell. I can easily imagine the higher end guns gaining some value with age and proven break in with no...er...breaks. :)

my post was an ill-conceived attempt at humor.

.300 Weatherby Mag

09-11-2012, 7:58 PM

@ .300Weatherby How much would a stock like the one you posted go for? Just randomly curious here since its made of sexy and all.

Depending on the options and custom touches, roughly $4,000+ for the stock and forend... Somebody I know with a Perazzi was offered another Perazzi exhibition grade stock set and $4500 cash for his wood.. He politely refused the offer... High grade walnut for these guns gets ridiculous...

Bigyates

09-11-2012, 8:08 PM

It's really a function of the cost of labor. What's shop time for your local mechanic? Multiply that by 1 to 2 thousand hours it takes to create the very "best" guns. All parts are hand made, fitted, engraved, hardened and finished.
The guns do last several lifetimes and although still expensive the real value is in the used market. An older "best" gun can be bought for a fraction of similar new gun

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/faunetaIMG_3071.jpg

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/faunetaIMG_3059.jpg

Rover

09-12-2012, 12:45 AM

I had no idea about Pacific Sporting Arms, I must go.

Much like cars, there are those for whom shotguns are a tool designed to serve a purpose, you are the lucky ones, because a $500 gun or a $10,000 car is going to make you very happy. Then there are the sorry souls like me who find beauty in tools, and spend entirely too much money on their cars, guns, and even our vintage machine-tools.

If I won the lottery, the first thing I'd do is buy a matched set of Holland&Hollands, 12/20/28/.410, and enough shells to at least try and wear them out. Doubt I'll live long enough to ever wear out a "real" gun.

Gothboy

09-12-2012, 5:51 AM

@bsg Ah, it seems that my naivety is showing. :O

@.300 and @BigYates Thats absolutely amazing!!! The wood work really shows in the grain and finish!

So we now own those SKB's and Im proud to even have them in our house. But the pics you guys keep posting keep getting better and better! The workmanship on some of the ones you all have directed me to have been too much for words! Just wow!!! This just keeps getting better and better. :)

bsg

09-12-2012, 10:05 AM

@bsg Ah, it seems that my naivety is showing. :O

i'm keeping the day job. ;)

XDshooter

09-14-2012, 1:07 AM

If you go to Pacific Sporting Arms, ask about the Perazzi special. You get something for free when you buy 3. LOL.