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Common sense advice on money saving tips, how to get out of debt, high interest savings accounts, cd rates, money market accounts, mortgage rates, money management and more.Tue, 31 Mar 2015 19:39:16 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1By: davidhttp://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-3085702
davidTue, 06 Nov 2012 17:33:12 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-3085702Its always been, "It is not what you know but who you know."Its always been, “It is not what you know but who you know.”

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]]>By: Betsy R.http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-207051
Betsy R.Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:22:09 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-207051Getting to know someone will help. Having a social network helps. I know, because my mother never allowed me to develop relationships other than her.
When I was a young adult, my parents were furious because I could not get a job. Eventually, I did work for many years.
I was in my early 30's before I realized just how thoroughly my mother had always dominated me, keeping me from having relationships other than her, criticizing every word I ever said in public.
I used to be terrified to even ask for something in public. I had no social skills. I thought being good would get me a job.Getting to know someone will help. Having a social network helps. I know, because my mother never allowed me to develop relationships other than her.

When I was a young adult, my parents were furious because I could not get a job. Eventually, I did work for many years.

I was in my early 30′s before I realized just how thoroughly my mother had always dominated me, keeping me from having relationships other than her, criticizing every word I ever said in public.

I used to be terrified to even ask for something in public. I had no social skills. I thought being good would get me a job.

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]]>By: Another Floridianhttp://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-117890
Another FloridianMon, 18 Feb 2008 01:34:42 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-117890I'm also in Florida -- and I'll agree that a lot of it is who you know. My husband graduated college with a business/computers degree right after September 11th and the dotcom bust. Mostly, he was told that he was "too qualified".
He did some computer work part time, but finally got one of his customers to hire him full time. It wasn't the best situation, but it worked.
Now he's with another company, doing much better financially, and working on other projects that look promising. How? I did a little social networking of my own and managed to brag about him to the right people. And sure, he makes more money that I will ever, but he has been sure to give me a lot of credit for his success on numerous occasions.
In addition to networking through friends and family, I highly recommend the book "Don't Send a Resume". And in general, just work on being noticed by those in your field. Thanks to the internet, it's getting easier and easier to court a company. You may be amazed how easy it can be to network with people at various companies -- especially if you give it some time before popping the big question.I’m also in Florida — and I’ll agree that a lot of it is who you know. My husband graduated college with a business/computers degree right after September 11th and the dotcom bust. Mostly, he was told that he was “too qualified”.

He did some computer work part time, but finally got one of his customers to hire him full time. It wasn’t the best situation, but it worked.

Now he’s with another company, doing much better financially, and working on other projects that look promising. How? I did a little social networking of my own and managed to brag about him to the right people. And sure, he makes more money that I will ever, but he has been sure to give me a lot of credit for his success on numerous occasions.

In addition to networking through friends and family, I highly recommend the book “Don’t Send a Resume”. And in general, just work on being noticed by those in your field. Thanks to the internet, it’s getting easier and easier to court a company. You may be amazed how easy it can be to network with people at various companies — especially if you give it some time before popping the big question.

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]]>By: Abbiehttp://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-95529
AbbieFri, 17 Aug 2007 15:28:00 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-95529I have had no luck in looking for a job. I done 2 years to get a business dimploma and at times i think why did i bother. I look at my emails nearly every other day and still have no luck job searching. I would appriciate any help in order to get my dream job.I have had no luck in looking for a job. I done 2 years to get a business dimploma and at times i think why did i bother. I look at my emails nearly every other day and still have no luck job searching. I would appriciate any help in order to get my dream job.

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]]>By: Ryanhttp://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-90535
RyanThu, 21 Jun 2007 22:19:53 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-90535Here is a tip I have used many times. As a teacher, once i=I have turned in my job application to HR, I stop by the school and ask to speak with an administrator. I then introduce myself and get them to start talking about the position / the school / other teachers / whatever. It has never failed. I always get the job.
Now, I am moving out of education to business. So, what do I do?? I call the HR department and ask to speak with someone about something having to do with hiring I find online. For example, one particular company I called has a recent MBA grad program. When I asked to speak with someone about it, they connected me to the hiring manager!! I left a message. She called back. We talked for 20 minutes. She gave me her personal email and asked me to send her my resume and CL directly.
The point is - BE BOLD!!! Approach people!! Put yourself out on a limb!! What is the worst thing that can happen to you?? The more guts you have, the more breaks you'll get.
And one more thing. . .contacting via email is worthless. Use the phone!!! Remember, even if it goes nowhere, they still have heard your voice and know your name. That might be enough to separate your resume from all the others.Here is a tip I have used many times. As a teacher, once i=I have turned in my job application to HR, I stop by the school and ask to speak with an administrator. I then introduce myself and get them to start talking about the position / the school / other teachers / whatever. It has never failed. I always get the job.

Now, I am moving out of education to business. So, what do I do?? I call the HR department and ask to speak with someone about something having to do with hiring I find online. For example, one particular company I called has a recent MBA grad program. When I asked to speak with someone about it, they connected me to the hiring manager!! I left a message. She called back. We talked for 20 minutes. She gave me her personal email and asked me to send her my resume and CL directly.

The point is – BE BOLD!!! Approach people!! Put yourself out on a limb!! What is the worst thing that can happen to you?? The more guts you have, the more breaks you’ll get.

And one more thing. . .contacting via email is worthless. Use the phone!!! Remember, even if it goes nowhere, they still have heard your voice and know your name. That might be enough to separate your resume from all the others.

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TINAThu, 21 Jun 2007 06:38:16 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-90396I have a experience in public relations, please I need help in getting a job. I have been searching for almost two years, I will appreciate any kind of job and in any city or state.I have a experience in public relations, please I need help in getting a job. I have been searching for almost two years, I will appreciate any kind of job and in any city or state.

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]]>By: susanhttp://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-87344
susanThu, 24 May 2007 19:24:13 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-87344Agree with comment #10. I have avoided layoffs and out of town assignments by being pleasant at work. It is a lot of fun to make your co-workers laugh (especially during a tense situation).
I really felt like I aced my latest job interview. I was called about a job thru a ex co-worker with whom I got along with quite well. The interviewer asked me about a certain skill and I replied (with a big smile) that there were parts of my job that were very mundane but that aspect was JUST PLAIN FUN. He grinned back. Being positive and engaging pays off. I received an e-mail that the second interview will be in a couple of days.Agree with comment #10. I have avoided layoffs and out of town assignments by being pleasant at work. It is a lot of fun to make your co-workers laugh (especially during a tense situation).

I really felt like I aced my latest job interview. I was called about a job thru a ex co-worker with whom I got along with quite well. The interviewer asked me about a certain skill and I replied (with a big smile) that there were parts of my job that were very mundane but that aspect was JUST PLAIN FUN. He grinned back. Being positive and engaging pays off. I received an e-mail that the second interview will be in a couple of days.

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KMullThu, 24 May 2007 01:53:10 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-87286As a recruiter, more and more I see that internships are huge. It isn't professional experience, but it sets you apart from the crowd. And what business doesn't want cheap/free labor?As a recruiter, more and more I see that internships are huge. It isn’t professional experience, but it sets you apart from the crowd. And what business doesn’t want cheap/free labor?

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]]>By: Angelahttp://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-87158
AngelaTue, 22 May 2007 14:38:45 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-87158Well, I do agree that it always works best to have an acquaintance, especially if you are out and happen to meet someone that works in a feild in which you are interested..
but ive found the best way to go about it is by fluffing the resume with jobs you've done for friends and focusing on aspects of previous jobs that would be more relevant to the job you are trying to snag.
I sold mattresses and set up peoples computers and made some websites for friends and was also a model, so on my resume i put that i did public relations, coorporate identity, graphics design , web design, and branding.
I don't know if it was the resume fluffing or if it was the fact that i was confidant and charming in the interview but i landed a job at an advertising agency over about 50 more qualified applicants who were all probably about twice my age, with that many more years of experience.
Not to mention the fact that i didn't even go to college, and had a GED rather than a High school diploma.
You just have to take every interview you can and pretend you know everything and be a doll. people love to work with people with whom they feel they can get along.Well, I do agree that it always works best to have an acquaintance, especially if you are out and happen to meet someone that works in a feild in which you are interested..
but ive found the best way to go about it is by fluffing the resume with jobs you’ve done for friends and focusing on aspects of previous jobs that would be more relevant to the job you are trying to snag.
I sold mattresses and set up peoples computers and made some websites for friends and was also a model, so on my resume i put that i did public relations, coorporate identity, graphics design , web design, and branding.
I don’t know if it was the resume fluffing or if it was the fact that i was confidant and charming in the interview but i landed a job at an advertising agency over about 50 more qualified applicants who were all probably about twice my age, with that many more years of experience.
Not to mention the fact that i didn’t even go to college, and had a GED rather than a High school diploma.
You just have to take every interview you can and pretend you know everything and be a doll. people love to work with people with whom they feel they can get along.

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zenTue, 22 May 2007 13:18:35 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-87148I landed three jobs based on who I know - and all three were form "weak" acquaintances I met over pizza at lunch on the college campus.
My next job is looking to be the same way - a guy I impressed early on wants to bring me to his current company, and no, I don't have a degree, and yes, I try to reciprocate.I landed three jobs based on who I know – and all three were form “weak” acquaintances I met over pizza at lunch on the college campus.

My next job is looking to be the same way – a guy I impressed early on wants to bring me to his current company, and no, I don’t have a degree, and yes, I try to reciprocate.

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kdpMon, 21 May 2007 21:53:20 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-87101First off, interviewing itself is its own mini-job that you have to get good at. Approach the entire interview process as a career to master. Learn how to write an excellent resume, how to dress well, how to get for interviews, how to answer their questions, and know what to expect from the entire process. Be as professional and diligent about the interview process as you would on the job.
Secondly, you ought to be applying for jobs where you already act like you belong. Want to be a manager but have no experience? Read up on it and practice it at non-profits. Want to become a programmer? Learn how to program on your own and bring samples in to show how you'd approach things. In all cases, no matter what job you are looking for, you need to know the theory behind why you are doing something, not just the surface level. Be a professional about your work - this is a career, so try and make sure you know your skills.
If you do both of those, landing a job is easy. Basically, the job will find you, more than likely.First off, interviewing itself is its own mini-job that you have to get good at. Approach the entire interview process as a career to master. Learn how to write an excellent resume, how to dress well, how to get for interviews, how to answer their questions, and know what to expect from the entire process. Be as professional and diligent about the interview process as you would on the job.

Secondly, you ought to be applying for jobs where you already act like you belong. Want to be a manager but have no experience? Read up on it and practice it at non-profits. Want to become a programmer? Learn how to program on your own and bring samples in to show how you’d approach things. In all cases, no matter what job you are looking for, you need to know the theory behind why you are doing something, not just the surface level. Be a professional about your work – this is a career, so try and make sure you know your skills.

If you do both of those, landing a job is easy. Basically, the job will find you, more than likely.

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]]>By: Starving Artisthttp://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-87090
Starving ArtistMon, 21 May 2007 19:31:53 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-87090Eh. This is kind of a truism, but not really helpful advice. The question immediately pops up: how do you get contacts in this new field you want to get into. This assumes you somehow know people in that field, and if that's the case, you probably aren't asking these questions to begin with.
First you need to explain how to make contacts. And, in my humble opinion, you do that by just going out and DOING whatever it is you want to do. Want to be a designer? Go design something. Want to write grants? Go write a grant for free. Get to know people in the field. That's what this article needed to be about...Eh. This is kind of a truism, but not really helpful advice. The question immediately pops up: how do you get contacts in this new field you want to get into. This assumes you somehow know people in that field, and if that’s the case, you probably aren’t asking these questions to begin with.

First you need to explain how to make contacts. And, in my humble opinion, you do that by just going out and DOING whatever it is you want to do. Want to be a designer? Go design something. Want to write grants? Go write a grant for free. Get to know people in the field. That’s what this article needed to be about…

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]]>By: Alliehttp://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-87088
AllieMon, 21 May 2007 19:18:11 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-87088I have had my share of job-finding problems. I would advise telling everyone you know that you need a job and what you want to do and ask them to ask around. The suggestions given above are good.
Also, your local unemployment office will have job listings, job testing, job training, etc. and it is available to anyone in most cases. I got a job through them when I moved after college. I went in every single day and did every single thing they asked me to do. I found a job being an office person and they wanted "radio experience." Well, I had sort of used a radio thingie when I was at Space Camp many MANY years ago and I got an interview.
You all will love this. I got the job. Not because I had "radio experience" but because I ANNOYED the owner of the company! It was a tow truck company and I was to be the dispatcher. He hired me because I was annoying and if I was annoying, I was sure to get things done, he said, and not take any crap from the tow truck drivers.
So my advice to people is to always be your true self when you go to an interview.I have had my share of job-finding problems. I would advise telling everyone you know that you need a job and what you want to do and ask them to ask around. The suggestions given above are good.

Also, your local unemployment office will have job listings, job testing, job training, etc. and it is available to anyone in most cases. I got a job through them when I moved after college. I went in every single day and did every single thing they asked me to do. I found a job being an office person and they wanted “radio experience.” Well, I had sort of used a radio thingie when I was at Space Camp many MANY years ago and I got an interview.

You all will love this. I got the job. Not because I had “radio experience” but because I ANNOYED the owner of the company! It was a tow truck company and I was to be the dispatcher. He hired me because I was annoying and if I was annoying, I was sure to get things done, he said, and not take any crap from the tow truck drivers.

So my advice to people is to always be your true self when you go to an interview.

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]]>By: finance girlhttp://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-87086
finance girlMon, 21 May 2007 18:51:53 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-87086You must find your passion. What are you interested in? Are your improving upon it? How are you pursuing it?
Finding what you are passionate about will naturally lead to meeting others who will see your passion, and eventually to a job.
This will not happen overnight.
But until you find it you won't be happy in any job you pursue.
It has to be something that gives you meaning and something that "just feels right".
You'll know you've found it when you find yourself getting excited about it and spending lots of time, voluntarily, on it.You must find your passion. What are you interested in? Are your improving upon it? How are you pursuing it?

Finding what you are passionate about will naturally lead to meeting others who will see your passion, and eventually to a job.

This will not happen overnight.

But until you find it you won’t be happy in any job you pursue.

It has to be something that gives you meaning and something that “just feels right”.

You’ll know you’ve found it when you find yourself getting excited about it and spending lots of time, voluntarily, on it.

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]]>By: Jameshttp://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-87082
JamesMon, 21 May 2007 18:07:06 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-87082First: Define what you want to do.
Second: Learn everything you can about it.
Third: Find and meet people with like interests. The Internet makes this easy.
Finally: Use those people, and their admiration for your passion, to make the connections you need to get the job you want.First: Define what you want to do.
Second: Learn everything you can about it.
Third: Find and meet people with like interests. The Internet makes this easy.
Finally: Use those people, and their admiration for your passion, to make the connections you need to get the job you want.

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]]>By: Ben (aka benbr)http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-87078
Ben (aka benbr)Mon, 21 May 2007 17:48:39 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-87078I work as a user interface designer. I design web applications in particular. In my field as with a lot of work in the software and design industries, the most important thing you can do is to show up with a portfolio. If you've got no experience, yo have to start building a portfolio the ways people have been suggesting here, especially volunteering.
It's also very important to have a professional presence on the web. Show samples of you best work on your website. Including a URL in your resume is a great way to increase the number of call backs you'll receive.
This is particularly important for designers, but I get the impression that portfolios are increasingly important in other fields as well. If your a teacher, for example, having an online portfolio will really separate you from the pack.I work as a user interface designer. I design web applications in particular. In my field as with a lot of work in the software and design industries, the most important thing you can do is to show up with a portfolio. If you’ve got no experience, yo have to start building a portfolio the ways people have been suggesting here, especially volunteering.

It’s also very important to have a professional presence on the web. Show samples of you best work on your website. Including a URL in your resume is a great way to increase the number of call backs you’ll receive.

This is particularly important for designers, but I get the impression that portfolios are increasingly important in other fields as well. If your a teacher, for example, having an online portfolio will really separate you from the pack.

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]]>By: Laura Athavale Fittonhttp://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-87074
Laura Athavale FittonMon, 21 May 2007 17:17:38 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-870741) figure out a place you want to get to. (company, job, profession, etc.)
1-a) if going right for that is too much to face, find something closer to that than your current job is
2) put yourself in their shoes -- what do they need? what problems do they face day to day? how can you solve those problems?
3) spend any contact with the potential employer (phone, email, interview) talking about THEM. ask questions, offer suggestions, if you must talk about you, only do it in very specific terms about what you could do to help them.
the bottom line is that nobody hires because you're good and kind and skilled and deserving and really need a job. even if they did, they would not necessarily be doing you a favor. people hire because they NEED HELP. they have a problem that needs solved, end of story, ANY job.1) figure out a place you want to get to. (company, job, profession, etc.)

1-a) if going right for that is too much to face, find something closer to that than your current job is

2) put yourself in their shoes — what do they need? what problems do they face day to day? how can you solve those problems?

3) spend any contact with the potential employer (phone, email, interview) talking about THEM. ask questions, offer suggestions, if you must talk about you, only do it in very specific terms about what you could do to help them.

the bottom line is that nobody hires because you’re good and kind and skilled and deserving and really need a job. even if they did, they would not necessarily be doing you a favor. people hire because they NEED HELP. they have a problem that needs solved, end of story, ANY job.

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]]>By: 60 In 3http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-87073
60 In 3Mon, 21 May 2007 17:15:30 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-87073It's all about who you know here in the Silicon Valley. So get out there and start getting to know people. Join community organizations, volunteer at local charities, join a local hiking club, go to your city council meetings. These are all ways to get to know people. Through these people you will find some incredible opportunities.It’s all about who you know here in the Silicon Valley. So get out there and start getting to know people. Join community organizations, volunteer at local charities, join a local hiking club, go to your city council meetings. These are all ways to get to know people. Through these people you will find some incredible opportunities.

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mahalieMon, 21 May 2007 17:13:46 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-87072I don't buy the 'you need to know someone' bit at all. If you have access to a public library or better yet, the internet, then you have access to information about the field you'd like to enter. If you know nothing at all about the field, then you should probably call a few places, saying you're considering a career in their field, and ask people already in the industry what it's like (people are amazingly willing to do this and - whabam - you 'know someone' now). Finally, as others have pointed out, volunteer in as close an industry or job role as possible. If there don't seem to be opportunities in your area, volunteer virtually (see volunteermatch.org).
Finally, some jobs require a degree. Period. I work for a large architecture firm and so many people ask me if I can get them a job. Do you have a degree? I ask. No. Even the interns here have a degree, you can't replace education in some fields, and especially in some sought-after firms. Ironically, I'm self taught (web development). I built things and volunteered and then I got a job based on my portfolio.I don’t buy the ‘you need to know someone’ bit at all. If you have access to a public library or better yet, the internet, then you have access to information about the field you’d like to enter. If you know nothing at all about the field, then you should probably call a few places, saying you’re considering a career in their field, and ask people already in the industry what it’s like (people are amazingly willing to do this and – whabam – you ‘know someone’ now). Finally, as others have pointed out, volunteer in as close an industry or job role as possible. If there don’t seem to be opportunities in your area, volunteer virtually (see volunteermatch.org).

Finally, some jobs require a degree. Period. I work for a large architecture firm and so many people ask me if I can get them a job. Do you have a degree? I ask. No. Even the interns here have a degree, you can’t replace education in some fields, and especially in some sought-after firms. Ironically, I’m self taught (web development). I built things and volunteered and then I got a job based on my portfolio.

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LacyMon, 21 May 2007 16:58:56 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-87071I'd like to second the idea of temp agencies. I signed up with a creative agency, KNOWING that I wanted to work in publishing, but not knowing how to get in. I got hired for a temp job as a proofreader (after scoring well on the agency's proofreading test), and after the managing editor got to know me well, I was hired as the company's departmental copy editor and managing editor for one of the magazines!I’d like to second the idea of temp agencies. I signed up with a creative agency, KNOWING that I wanted to work in publishing, but not knowing how to get in. I got hired for a temp job as a proofreader (after scoring well on the agency’s proofreading test), and after the managing editor got to know me well, I was hired as the company’s departmental copy editor and managing editor for one of the magazines!

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LizMon, 21 May 2007 16:57:40 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-87070I was part of a career counselling centre at the University that I worked at. We had to find jobs for students with Arts majors - which in our Uni included Social Sciences (Psychology, Sociology etc) but also the fine and performing arts. It is difficult to get that first job if you have no experience, but here is what we saw work quite often...
- volunteer someplace that you think is interesting, to gain some relevant experience but most of all to open up your network
- get on a committee or board of some local non-profit: usually they really need board members, and you can often meet some amazing go-getter folks that are very connected
- remember that when you are changing careers you may have to take a hit financially. the people in the new field won't give a hoot if you've painted houses for 12 years, they want to know how much relevant experience in *their* field you have. So you may have to take a financial hit to start as a junior in that field, but most often that wage won't last long when they realize how valuable of an employee you are
- don't be afraid to do informational interviews: if you aren't sure what field you want to be in, make some connections and ask people about their work.... sometimes that will lead to a real interview, or at least, another network connection
For me, just "getting out there and meeting people" is difficult: I'm not a schmoozer. I can't go into a large room of people and just be "on" and talk to people, with whom I have no context for speaking with. So, I've worked best in the situations above - more one-on-one where there is a specific context for interaction.
Oh, and also, get some feedback on your resume/ coverletter and your interviewing skills. I know where I work now, if someone has any spelling or grammatical errors that I can notice (and I'm not an editor), I usually don't give them an interview. Call it cold-hearted, but that is one easy way to cull a huge pile of applications. Interviewing skills are good to have feedback on as well, as sometimes you may be doing something that you don't know you are doing (shifting eyes, fidgeting, not making eye-contact) that may make you seem out of place.I was part of a career counselling centre at the University that I worked at. We had to find jobs for students with Arts majors – which in our Uni included Social Sciences (Psychology, Sociology etc) but also the fine and performing arts. It is difficult to get that first job if you have no experience, but here is what we saw work quite often…
- volunteer someplace that you think is interesting, to gain some relevant experience but most of all to open up your network
- get on a committee or board of some local non-profit: usually they really need board members, and you can often meet some amazing go-getter folks that are very connected
- remember that when you are changing careers you may have to take a hit financially. the people in the new field won’t give a hoot if you’ve painted houses for 12 years, they want to know how much relevant experience in *their* field you have. So you may have to take a financial hit to start as a junior in that field, but most often that wage won’t last long when they realize how valuable of an employee you are
- don’t be afraid to do informational interviews: if you aren’t sure what field you want to be in, make some connections and ask people about their work…. sometimes that will lead to a real interview, or at least, another network connection

For me, just “getting out there and meeting people” is difficult: I’m not a schmoozer. I can’t go into a large room of people and just be “on” and talk to people, with whom I have no context for speaking with. So, I’ve worked best in the situations above – more one-on-one where there is a specific context for interaction.

Oh, and also, get some feedback on your resume/ coverletter and your interviewing skills. I know where I work now, if someone has any spelling or grammatical errors that I can notice (and I’m not an editor), I usually don’t give them an interview. Call it cold-hearted, but that is one easy way to cull a huge pile of applications. Interviewing skills are good to have feedback on as well, as sometimes you may be doing something that you don’t know you are doing (shifting eyes, fidgeting, not making eye-contact) that may make you seem out of place.

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BrianMon, 21 May 2007 16:30:37 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-87069How about starting a blog in the field you want to get into? I think there are more people in my LinkedIn network that I've met through blogging than I have through face-to-face meetings.
In addition to the networking, it provides you another outlet for finding employers (mention that you're looking for work on your about page) and gives employers a sample of your work.
That's how I found my current freelance job that might go full-time soon.How about starting a blog in the field you want to get into? I think there are more people in my LinkedIn network that I’ve met through blogging than I have through face-to-face meetings.

In addition to the networking, it provides you another outlet for finding employers (mention that you’re looking for work on your about page) and gives employers a sample of your work.

That’s how I found my current freelance job that might go full-time soon.

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Dy (www.dyphan.com)Mon, 21 May 2007 16:14:13 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-87068I had some success with temp agencies, they get you jobs that are inline with your skills and interests. It could be the launch pad that someone needs.I had some success with temp agencies, they get you jobs that are inline with your skills and interests. It could be the launch pad that someone needs.

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]]>By: Mama's Moneyhttp://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-87066
Mama's MoneyMon, 21 May 2007 16:00:15 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-87066The simple answer is, it's almost impossible.
But developing a social network that will help you find a job is NOT THAT HARD.
Most big cities have lots of business groups that meet monthly -- go to your local Chamber of Commerce, see if there's a 9-5 chapter, see if there's a chapter of the American Association of Whateveritisthatyou'reointerestedindoing. Call (phone, not email) the contacts listed on the web site and ask if they need volunteers to check people in or help setup or cleanup after the meeting.
Be friendly and helpful and when you chat with people, tell them you're new in the area and you're looking for a job.
I've gotten 2 interviews -- both of which led to jobs -- just from showing up at trade association meetings that were interesting to me, chatting with people, and telling them I was looking for work.The simple answer is, it’s almost impossible.

But developing a social network that will help you find a job is NOT THAT HARD.

Most big cities have lots of business groups that meet monthly — go to your local Chamber of Commerce, see if there’s a 9-5 chapter, see if there’s a chapter of the American Association of Whateveritisthatyou’reointerestedindoing. Call (phone, not email) the contacts listed on the web site and ask if they need volunteers to check people in or help setup or cleanup after the meeting.

Be friendly and helpful and when you chat with people, tell them you’re new in the area and you’re looking for a job.

I’ve gotten 2 interviews — both of which led to jobs — just from showing up at trade association meetings that were interesting to me, chatting with people, and telling them I was looking for work.

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JordanMon, 21 May 2007 15:56:54 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-87065I ran into a similar problem when I was trying to get a decent job, only I had one more car stacked against me, I was 17. 17 years old, just out of high school and starting college. By 17 I had worked a slew of customer service jobs and had become very good at reading people, and knew if I could get an interview, I would get the job. I'm a technical person so I went after tech jobs, but not having a degree made this difficult. I went to trade shows just to get my name out in the industry, and did some freelance work for small businesses. But one day at one of my customer service jobs my managers husband came in to fix one of the computers since he did the tech work for us, and he was having some trouble with it, and I happened to walk on by and saw so I got the problem fixed for him. He asked why I worked there if I knew about computers, we talked for a bit and I emailed him my resume. I got an interview with his boss, and this is where the network paid off. I had met his boss at a trade show previously, and he had been a frequent customer of mine at my other job, so he knew I was good with customers. I worked that job (it was a small company of about 20) for about a year until the company was sold, and by then I had made enough of a name for myself that our clients were offering me jobs with them, which I eventually took.
The point is, yes, its partially about knowing people, but you don't have to know them now, ad they don't have to be friends. Get your name out in the field you want to be in, attend events where people in that position would be at. That is how you get to know people. If two people are identical is skill and character, I guarantee the hiring manager will pick the one who's name they have seen before (unless its attached to "robs a bank" or something hehe)I ran into a similar problem when I was trying to get a decent job, only I had one more car stacked against me, I was 17. 17 years old, just out of high school and starting college. By 17 I had worked a slew of customer service jobs and had become very good at reading people, and knew if I could get an interview, I would get the job. I’m a technical person so I went after tech jobs, but not having a degree made this difficult. I went to trade shows just to get my name out in the industry, and did some freelance work for small businesses. But one day at one of my customer service jobs my managers husband came in to fix one of the computers since he did the tech work for us, and he was having some trouble with it, and I happened to walk on by and saw so I got the problem fixed for him. He asked why I worked there if I knew about computers, we talked for a bit and I emailed him my resume. I got an interview with his boss, and this is where the network paid off. I had met his boss at a trade show previously, and he had been a frequent customer of mine at my other job, so he knew I was good with customers. I worked that job (it was a small company of about 20) for about a year until the company was sold, and by then I had made enough of a name for myself that our clients were offering me jobs with them, which I eventually took.

The point is, yes, its partially about knowing people, but you don’t have to know them now, ad they don’t have to be friends. Get your name out in the field you want to be in, attend events where people in that position would be at. That is how you get to know people. If two people are identical is skill and character, I guarantee the hiring manager will pick the one who’s name they have seen before (unless its attached to “robs a bank” or something hehe)

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]]>By: Floraborahttp://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-87064
FloraboraMon, 21 May 2007 15:53:20 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-87064Besides volunteering and trying temp services, make sure you try to locate a local chapter of an association in the field you are interested in trying to find a job in. Try looking at the national level and emailing them for a local chapter. THAT is how you start networking in a new area. I've referred several people in my local assocation for positions in my firm - I'm not close to any of them, but I've recognized them as being good candidates for open positions by how active they've been in this association.
Another option - join a local arts patron club - ie - the "friends of x museum" - there are cheaper clubs for those who have recently graduated - these can be a great intro into the business community.
good luck!Besides volunteering and trying temp services, make sure you try to locate a local chapter of an association in the field you are interested in trying to find a job in. Try looking at the national level and emailing them for a local chapter. THAT is how you start networking in a new area. I’ve referred several people in my local assocation for positions in my firm – I’m not close to any of them, but I’ve recognized them as being good candidates for open positions by how active they’ve been in this association.

Another option – join a local arts patron club – ie – the “friends of x museum” – there are cheaper clubs for those who have recently graduated – these can be a great intro into the business community.

good luck!

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plonkeeMon, 21 May 2007 15:46:44 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-87063I can't stress enough the importance of getting people to really thoroughly go through your cv (resume). I often read through them for friends and family, and find that often skills aren't sold enough, and its not tailored to the job as well as it could be.
I think you really need to highlight all the things in your employment and education history that are relevant to the job you are applying for, and downplay all the non-relevant, including job titles if necessary.
In my line of work, most people get their jobs through agencies, but that might still leave you in a catch-22 position as agencies find it easier to place people with experience.I can’t stress enough the importance of getting people to really thoroughly go through your cv (resume). I often read through them for friends and family, and find that often skills aren’t sold enough, and its not tailored to the job as well as it could be.

I think you really need to highlight all the things in your employment and education history that are relevant to the job you are applying for, and downplay all the non-relevant, including job titles if necessary.

In my line of work, most people get their jobs through agencies, but that might still leave you in a catch-22 position as agencies find it easier to place people with experience.

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HazzardMon, 21 May 2007 15:43:29 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-87062Great article. I completely believe this to be true. I think it's why you find some people in jobs that they aren't necessarily the best qualified for. They didn't get the job on their job related skills alone, but rather used their "relationship management" skills to keep their network of contacts in good shape. People don't need to hold hands with each of their friends, but rather just keep in touch in various ways. I've also found that good performer's reputations tend to follow them around.Great article. I completely believe this to be true. I think it’s why you find some people in jobs that they aren’t necessarily the best qualified for. They didn’t get the job on their job related skills alone, but rather used their “relationship management” skills to keep their network of contacts in good shape. People don’t need to hold hands with each of their friends, but rather just keep in touch in various ways. I’ve also found that good performer’s reputations tend to follow them around.

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One more thing...Mon, 21 May 2007 15:36:44 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-87060Most employers would rather have someone who is pleasant to work with than someone who has the skills and experience. So be a nice and kind person and play that up. Tell them you learn quickly. If you have a sense of humor, try to make your interviewers laugh (in an appropriate manner). People want to enjoy those 40+ hours a week at the office and if you're a nice person to be around - that's more than half the battle.Most employers would rather have someone who is pleasant to work with than someone who has the skills and experience. So be a nice and kind person and play that up. Tell them you learn quickly. If you have a sense of humor, try to make your interviewers laugh (in an appropriate manner). People want to enjoy those 40+ hours a week at the office and if you’re a nice person to be around – that’s more than half the battle.

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]]>By: Nathania Johnson - The SEM Zonehttp://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-87058
Nathania Johnson - The SEM ZoneMon, 21 May 2007 15:33:46 +0000http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/05/21/ask-the-readers-how-do-you-get-a-job-when-nobody-will-give-you-a-chance/#comment-87058VOLUNTEER. Get involved in charity work. Sign up for a committee that is related to the work you want to do. If you want to be in communications, then sign up accordingly. You'll make connections and gain experience at the same time. Plus you'll be making a difference. It's a win-win for everyone involved.
TEMP AGENCIES can help you get a "foot in the door" job. If you test well on Microsoft Word, Excel, Powerpoint, etc. plus type quickly, you can get a job and work your way up. You can practice those skills and when you're ready, head over to the temp agency. You have to be proactive with them, though. Make them KNOW you want a job.
PERSERVERANCE. A couple years back I was laid off and applied to around 100 jobs and didn't get a single one. That's just life sometimes. When I finally did get a job, I was laid off again after 6 months. Then I got my current job, which I really like. It's in an industry I didn't even know existed and it's what I wanted to do but didn't even know it.VOLUNTEER. Get involved in charity work. Sign up for a committee that is related to the work you want to do. If you want to be in communications, then sign up accordingly. You’ll make connections and gain experience at the same time. Plus you’ll be making a difference. It’s a win-win for everyone involved.

TEMP AGENCIES can help you get a “foot in the door” job. If you test well on Microsoft Word, Excel, Powerpoint, etc. plus type quickly, you can get a job and work your way up. You can practice those skills and when you’re ready, head over to the temp agency. You have to be proactive with them, though. Make them KNOW you want a job.

PERSERVERANCE. A couple years back I was laid off and applied to around 100 jobs and didn’t get a single one. That’s just life sometimes. When I finally did get a job, I was laid off again after 6 months. Then I got my current job, which I really like. It’s in an industry I didn’t even know existed and it’s what I wanted to do but didn’t even know it.