I like the 9am to 9pm as an acceptable window if you don't know the person's schedule. If you do, you should try to call at a time that you know they'll be awake.

I'm a natural night owl as well and if left unchecked I will slowly shift from normal hours to going to bed at 3am and waking at 11am. This worked well while I was in school as my classes didn't let out until ten at night.

When I am on that schedule I am annoyed at 8am calls, but resigned to 9am calls. If a friend calls at 9am I'd be annoyed as they would likely know that I won't be awake for a few hours. But businesses and such I don't mind because I realize that my schedule is not normal.

That seems to assume everyone has the same definition of what a borderline hour is and that everyone has unlimited texting to play with.

For the folks I am most likely to call, I usually have a pretty good idea of what their borderline hours are, and I'm not talking about multiple times/day texting - in fact, among those I converse with most, I usually have the more limited texting plan (not unlimited, and actually quite low). So it's a system that works quite well for me, and might for others as well.

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I have a general rule that calls between 9 a.m. and 9 p.m. are acceptable, unless I know the person deviates from that schedule - or time zone differences. For example, my brother lives on the west coast and I'm east coast, so we try to keep that in mind as well as typical "dinner hour" - but other than that 9-9 is the rule I live by.

I would actually say 8. I realize 9 is when a lot of businesses open but those people did not beam in from bed where they were sound asleep a moment before. On a weekend I would wait until 9.

But just because they can't beam directly there doesn't mean they need to be up by 8 am to get to work at 9. I (intentionally) live only 10 minutes from work and it only takes me 10-15 minutes to get ready most mornings - less if I shower the night before. If I needed to be in by 9 I would set my alarm for 8:20-8:30. And then the time I do have I use to get ready, so even though I'd be awake I wouldn't want to field a call.

In the absence of knowing a person's schedule I'd limit calls to between 10 am and 8 pm to be safe.

I would actually say 8. I realize 9 is when a lot of businesses open but those people did not beam in from bed where they were sound asleep a moment before. On a weekend I would wait until 9.

But just because they can't beam directly there doesn't mean they need to be up by 8 am to get to work at 9. I (intentionally) live only 10 minutes from work and it only takes me 10-15 minutes to get ready most mornings - less if I shower the night before. If I needed to be in by 9 I would set my alarm for 8:20-8:30. And then the time I do have I use to get ready, so even though I'd be awake I wouldn't want to field a call.

In the absence of knowing a person's schedule I'd limit calls to between 10 am and 8 pm to be safe.

And just because they may be up at 8am, doesn't mean they're ready to face the world at that hour. I'm up at 5am for work during the week, and because I'm used to getting up early, I just naturally wake up early on weekends too, but I really don't want the phone ringing at 7am just because I might be awake.

OP, I don't know the backstory but it sounds like you really hate this woman -- can you block her number?

I don't hate her but I definitely dislike her. I could block her number but I wouldn't want her daughter (who I do like) not to be able to call my DD. I have no issues with them maintaining their friendship.

Your attitude about the time of the call may be linked to your dislike of this chick!

I think in an emergency, or if its somebody who you know for a fact has the same schedule as you, early is fine. Otherwise.. after about 9, I guess. Depends on the context, the night before...etc.

I remember calling one of my friends at about 4pm, and she seemed completely out of it, wasnt really responding, and I quickly realised...'Um...did I just wake you up?'. Apparently so. I maintain that wasn't an unreasonable time to call!

Well, first, if it's a social call, I'd say to my friend "Why in the heck are you calling me so early?" in a good-natured way.

If it's a business call, I'd either answer the phone, or let it go to VM.

It sounds to me, OP, like most of your frustration is that you don't like this woman. I'm not sure why you stayed on the phone with her so long once you realized it was her. A simple "Can I call you back later? We usually get up around 9am and I'm a little groggy" would have ended the call, and let her know in the future to not call so early.

I remember calling one of my friends at about 4pm, and she seemed completely out of it, wasnt really responding, and I quickly realised...'Um...did I just wake you up?'. Apparently so. I maintain that wasn't an unreasonable time to call!

4pm?? Yeah, I'd have to agree with you on that one! I have a client who I woke up when I called at 11am one morning (he's unemployed). Now, I try never to call him before noon, lol!!

Well, first, if it's a social call, I'd say to my friend "Why in the heck are you calling me so early?" in a good-natured way.

If it's a business call, I'd either answer the phone, or let it go to VM.

It sounds to me, OP, like most of your frustration is that you don't like this woman. I'm not sure why you stayed on the phone with her so long once you realized it was her. A simple "Can I call you back later? We usually get up around 9am and I'm a little groggy" would have ended the call, and let her know in the future to not call so early.

I remember calling one of my friends at about 4pm, and she seemed completely out of it, wasnt really responding, and I quickly realised...'Um...did I just wake you up?'. Apparently so. I maintain that wasn't an unreasonable time to call!

Absolutely a reasonable time to call. Although I wouldn't hold it against someone if they seemed groggily annoyed if I woke them up. Just because its reasonable to be calling doesn't mean its fun or less disorienting to get woken up.

I had someone accidentally call me at 4:30am on Black Friday once. I'd been up until about 12:30-1am cleaning up from Thanksgiving and the phone ringing sent me into a panic. It was a brief phone call (basically it went "ooops! I didn't mean to call you in the middle of the night, so sorry, go back to sleep"), but the damage was done and I couldn't get back to sleep even after I got my heart rate back down. So I just started my day.

Then later that afternoon I was obviously tired and decided to take a nap. I'd been asleep maybe half an hour when the same friend called and woke me up again. To apologize for waking me up in the middle of the night. At which point she realized she'd woken me up again. Oops.