“I feel like if we tried to portray a character that everybody else wanted, it would have just been this mess of a human,” Shailene recently shared to the Today Show about Divergent. “When you’re creating a movie, you’re in the bubble of what that film is and you kind of forget that other people know about it.” Watch the video below!

FYI: Shailene is wearing the Elizabeth and James Talbert sunglasses. Theo is wearing a Joe’s shirt.