The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

<quoted text>Rogue lives in a Limbaugh fantasyland.He does not realize that every three months the top echelon of Wall Street trade in their stock options worth millions.So Rogue must think that is good for Rogue and his family.The Ronald Reagan Trickled Down effect.ROTFL

As to Rogue's America's self-made billionaires...what horsesh*t. The last self-made richest men are Gates, Buffett, Bloomberg, Jobs, Walton, and that's about it. And they all date back to anywhere from 40 to 20 years ago. The rest of the big boys' clubs are "entrepreneurs", shysters, who latched on to big companies, paid themselves handsomely in salary, dividends and stock options which you just mentioned and so often, greed, dishonesty and incompetence combined drove their companies into the ground. Rogue defends them, servitude being an honourable estate to him, for the meek shall inherit the earth. Yeah, sure, right in the mouth.

Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:One of the smartest move Bush-41 did was making Gen. Colon Powell the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff which is nothing more than an advisory job. And he chose Gen. Schwarzkopf as his combat field commander. If Powell had been the field commander I seriously doubt the Persian Gulf War would have turned out as well as it did.

Two points here. First of all MY point is that Gen Schwarzkopf was The MAN for the actual conduct of the PERSIAN GULF WAR (1991) and Powell was stuck in D.C. and that was good.Next, did we go on to Baghdad in 1991? NO!!! So your points are off topic and moot! So for your rebuttal, you get an F!!!

<quoted text>What top echelon Wall Street mogul doesn't love the Ronald Reagan trickle-down model?As to Rogue's America's self-made billionaires...what horsesh*t. The last self-made richest men are Gates, Buffett, Bloomberg, Jobs, Walton, and that's about it. And they all date back to anywhere from 40 to 20 years ago. The rest of the big boys' clubs are "entrepreneurs", shysters, who latched on to big companies, paid themselves handsomely in salary, dividends and stock options which you just mentioned and so often, greed, dishonesty and incompetence combined drove their companies into the ground. Rogue defends them, servitude being an honourable estate to him, for the meek shall inherit the earth. Yeah, sure, right in the mouth.

Ah, what was Bill Gates' net worth when he was 21 years old? Steve Jobs'? Donald Trump's? Warren Buffett's I think I have more than made my point!!!Oh, how about Bush-41? He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth! And Bush-43? An even bigger silver spoon!! And they were both Country Club RINOs too!!!

<quoted text>I like your post.Incidentally, can 33 of 34 OECD countries be wrong about universal health care? Not perfect those 34, to be sure, but better than the alternative, as Charles Boyer once said.

And their universal health care has been an albatross around their economic necks.And we still have about SEVEN MILLION few employed Americans now than when Obama entered the White House and about NINE million few than we had in 2007!

<quoted text>I will do a Jacques on you. Your sources are not credible so I will not both rebutting them.

Well, the difference between my "sources rebuttals" and yours, Rogue, is that I go into the subject, I explain why the sources are not credible, and supply you with a full explanation of why you are dead wrong most of the time. Then, anywhere from a week to 2 months later, you repeat the same nonsense, citing the same bogus sources. "Plus ça change..."

BTW, vets' sources are impeccable and what's more, he doesn't only rely on them, he knows what he's talking about, can expand on them. Not a cut-and-paster is he.

Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:<quoted text>I will do a Jacques on you. Your sources are not credible so I will not both rebutting them.

Jacques from Ottawa wrote:

<quoted text>Well, the difference between my "sources rebuttals" and yours, Rogue, is that I go into the subject, I explain why the sources are not credible, and supply you with a full explanation of why you are dead wrong most of the time. Then, anywhere from a week to 2 months later, you repeat the same nonsense, citing the same bogus sources. "Plus ça change..."BTW, vets' sources are impeccable and what's more, he doesn't only rely on them, he knows what he's talking about, can expand on them. Not a cut-and-paster is he.

VoteVets.org is a lefty front site will only 5% of their members are combat vets. They were formed to get supporters for Obama but out of theFrom Wiki: In February 2007, a VoteVets.org spokesman told the The Washington Post that the group had 20,000 members, including 1,000 veterans of the wars in Iraq and AfghanistanThat's right, out of over TWO million Iraq and Afghan War vets only 1,000 only 0.00005% are members of VoteVets! What a laugh!!!

I could so easily reply to the above, but hey, vets is much more qualified than me. I'll abstain.

OBAMA WAS BORN IN MOMBASA, KENYA! YOU NEED AN EDITOR! WAKE UP!â€ŹYou say: "The Obama campaign has maintained that he was born in Hawaii,has an authentic birth certificate, and is a "natural-born" U.S. citizen.Hawaiian officials agree." THIS IS A LIE!"Hawaiian Officials" MERELY said they "have his ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE"!They did not say: it is a 'HAWAIIAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE'!Have some literate person read to you the"A/P report of the Hawaiian Officials statements"?

Answer:

For Obama to have been born in a foreign country:

(1) Obama’s relatives would have had to have been rich enough (and they weren’t. In 1961 Obama’s grandfather was a furniture salesman, and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank, and his father went from Kenya to Hawaii on a free flight) and dumb enough to send their daughter at high risk of stillbirth to a foreign country to give birth—-—despite there being fine hospitals in Hawaii;

(2) Obama’s mother would have had to have traveled overseas ALONE (since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) and somehow got Obama back to the USA without getting him entered on her US passport or getting a visa for him (which would have had to have been applied for in a US consulate in that country and the records would still exist);

(3) got the officials in Hawaii to record his birth in Hawaii despite (as birthers claim) his being born in another country and somehow got the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley to lie (and since the woman’s father’s name really was Stanley, she would have had to have found one of the very few women with fathers of that name to do it).

If you sincerely believe that Obama could have been born in a foreign country, then you could answer all three points. For Obama to have been born in a foreign country, all three would have had to have happened.

<quoted text>Ah, what was Bill Gates' net worth when he was 21 years old? Steve Jobs'? Donald Trump's? Warren Buffett's I think I have more than made my point!!!Oh, how about Bush-41? He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth! And Bush-43? An even bigger silver spoon!! And they were both Country Club RINOs too!!!

Do you even realise that your post confirms what I wrote, namely that today's self-made billionaires all "made it" anywhere from 40 to 20 years ago? Jobs, 20 years back, Gates, 30 years, Buffett, 25 years, Trump, not counting his father's wealth and his own bankruptcies,...etc. Name me one self-made billionaire of the last 10 years, Rogue, with the exception of Face Book founder Mark Zuckerberg.

<quoted text>And their universal health care has been an albatross around their economic necks.And we still have about SEVEN MILLION few employed Americans now than when Obama entered the White House and about NINE million few than we had in 2007!

Health care is NOT an albatross around their neck as their populations are healthier thanks to preventive care. And, bottom line, Rogue, are those 33 countries, all of them, in any worse financial shape than the US? As I've oft repeated, if you're gonna be in economic doldrums, may as well be with universal health care than without.

Last thing , Rogue. Ever heard of the only one in the platoon being IN STEP? Is being one of 34 the only one IN STEP?

Finally finally, Rogue, you surely must know that health care in the United States costs more per capita than any system in any country in the world? And for what? Legions with no coverage, many with scanty or poor coverage, with premiums ranging from $200 to $500 per person per month. Wake up and smell the coffee or the roses or whatever. Exchange guns for health care.

<quoted text>Earlier today the Nekkei settle up 1.2% and that along with some good new on our home front has had a positive effect on our markets.The DOW is now up 1.4%!

Oh no. Bad day for you, Rogue. Better luck tomorrow, I'm sure there will be bad news somewhere, or some profit-taking, and the DJIA will tank, thereby making your day and for sure , blaming that darn Obama....Good Lord, can't someone stop that evil person?

Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:VoteVets.org is a lefty front site will only 5% of their members are combat vets. They were formed to get supporters for Obama but out of theFrom Wiki: In February 2007, a VoteVets.org spokesman told the The Washington Post that the group had 20,000 members, including 1,000 veterans of the wars in Iraq and AfghanistanThat's right, out of over TWO million Iraq and Afghan War vets only 1,000 only 0.00005% are members of VoteVets! What a laugh!!!

Jacques from Ottawa wrote:

<quoted text>I could so easily reply to the above, but hey, vets is much more qualified than me. I'll abstain.

Obviously you could not easily reply. There are always a certain number of disgruntled employees but when a group uses "vet" in their name but only 5% are actual vets, they are Vets in name only and therefore a scam!Lefties frequently do that! Pretend they are something then are not. It is like putting a gallon of vegetable oil in a 5,000 gallon tank of diesel fuel and calling in Bio-Diesel! But you Libtards suck it up every time!

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