First let me say that 12lbs of grain is all I can do at a time, so thats why it is pseudo PM. I want it to finish dry to show off the hops. I'd also like it to be 12-14 SRM, so that's why the debittered is in there. Let me know if you have a better idea on how to get the color. I really like Special B, I use it in almost everything.

I don't really know what I'm getting into with the debittered. I've not used it, only black patent, but I saw a pound or so of debittered used in many black IPAs. I figured the flavor contribution would be minimal at the amount I'm using (2oz), especially considering its a IIPA, but I really don't know. Never used the stuff. Someone tell me I'm stupid and I should clearly be doing something else to get the color I want (12-14) with a minimal flavor change. I guess that's what I'm looking for.

I thought about dark crystal, but I'd have to use half a pound or so to get to 12SRM. Still think that's a better option? Maybe go 50/50 Special B/120 to get to 12? Hmmm...

BTW: This is going to be my birthday beer, that's why the style is a little unique. That's what I like to drink the most, so screw the BMC/fruity wheat beer crowd that I normally brew for at a party!

I'm not the expert, but if you want darkness with minimal flavor change go with Crystal 90L, it will give you a nice frothy head, the slight sweetness will be shrouded by the hops, and you'll get the color you desire. Black malt and special B imparts unique flavors that hops wont hide