I was lucky, I got to go to work for my father when I first broke in, he told me a few things. The first was, "you have to make a name for yourself". The second was not advice per say but I always think about it. It was my second job and we were working in Kodak park setting some pipe bridges between buildings. It was when JLGs were first really becoming popular, I could not reach my point and to be honest I was a bit scared to lean out and make it. I said I cant do it, my father told me that I was never to say that again, it was not in an Iron workers vocabulary. He said I have to do it that's my job as an iron worker. I think about that when ever i'm scared, and I still get scared! What local are you out of? I'm in 33

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I'm a disabled Iron Worker after 30years of doing it. No way in hell no one can remotely lump Iron Workers into a bunch of slackers, or relate them to being in any way like a teamster. I can testify that would be pure ********..!!! Most men could not make a pimple on a Iron Workers ass as far as work goes or even remotely have a clue of how to do all that is required of a Journeyman Iron Worker, or have the balls to do it..!!

I agree there are better jobs and better paying jobs, we all do what ever to make a living for our families. Whether you are union or not, or management it does not matter. If you are lucky enough to land a good job or have a degree and a well paying job, or own your own business "God bless you." I am happy for you. but never lump everyone in the same boat. Each person rich or poor that goes in everyday and puts in a good days work can come home knowing he is as good a person as the highest paid person any where.

ICANHITHIMAN, The retirement was $40 per credit when I had to take disability so that may give you an idea I'm no spring chicken. I will add this, no one is going to have a job Iron Working anywhere unless he is a good worker. A journeyman Iron Worker is a person very skilled in many things and does a very hard job and needs to back up to no one for his check.

An old Iron Worker told me when I first started Iron Working when I questioned us being able to do something, he said 2 words you need to forget. "Can't and impossible," for we can and do the impossible every day. I have never forgot that and we could do the job and did do the impossible many times, if anyone doubts this, all you have to do is look around at all the Iron Workers have built or moved and done.

Some pics from Albany NY yesterday. The following 8 pics (in 2 posts) are a panorama starting with the "scene of the crime," The State Capitol building. For those who may not be familiar with the area, this 'space' is a city block.

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__________________How a politician stands on the Second Amendment tells you how he or she views you as an individualů as a trustworthy and productive citizen, or as part of an unruly crowd that needs to be lorded over, controlled, supervised, and taken care of. ~ Suzanna Gratia Hupp ~ Texas State Representative (R), survivor of 'Luby's Massacre' where both her parents were among 23 people fatally shot and 50 others wounded

From the green tent in the first pic... Those speaking included Tom King of NYSRPA, David Keene President of the NRA, State Senator Kathleen Marchione whos online petition has gathered nearly 116,000 signatures, St Sen. Bonicic who referred to the legislation as a "bunch of Cr @ p. I think I quoted that correctly. And a number of other legislative leaders who did not vote for the law on that night.

One interesting note, in the middle of the afternoon, after a number of loud chants of "we will not comply," "No Deal - Repeal," and a few others, a considerable number of other legislators showed up to participate even though thay were not scheduled to speak and all were professing their no vote last month. Several long serving State Senators mentioned that we were the largest crowd thay have ever seen in Albany to rally for or against anything. Whether or not that is fact is up for debate.

Regardless, we were 'noticed' by legislators, the Governor, even though he was down in NYC. We also understand this made the national news during the day yesterday. I'd like to hear from those around the country who may have seen us.

Media estimates put us at 7000 +.

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__________________How a politician stands on the Second Amendment tells you how he or she views you as an individualů as a trustworthy and productive citizen, or as part of an unruly crowd that needs to be lorded over, controlled, supervised, and taken care of. ~ Suzanna Gratia Hupp ~ Texas State Representative (R), survivor of 'Luby's Massacre' where both her parents were among 23 people fatally shot and 50 others wounded