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No way. It is a fast car, but far from a super car. Just like a 69 camaro with a blown motor that does 10 seconds in the 1/4 is a very fast car, but not a super car.

Super cars in my book are cars that have a high entry price, were at the top of their game during the era they ran off the production line, and are exclusive vehicles. I.E. in my book a countach is still a super car even though a new vette which is not a supercar out performs it.

Also, and this is key, you cannot turn a car into a super car, it is born that way.

No way. It is a fast car, but far from a super car. Just like a 69 camaro with a blown motor that does 10 seconds in the 1/4 is a very fast car, but not a super car.

Super cars in my book are cars that have a high entry price, were at the top of their game during the era they ran off the production line, and are exclusive vehicles. I.E. in my book a countach is still a super car even though a new vette which is not a supercar out performs it.

Also, and this is key, you cannot turn a car into a super car, it is born that way.

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I would rather own a perfectly modded sports car than a super car or exotic though

sub 3.5 seconds 0-60 and exclusivety means super car... V8 R8 isn' a supercar... A V10 R8 is... GTR is relatively cheap... in my book a supercar...
The new M5/M6 is tricky.. i think out of the box they are no supercars..
But look at what many of us did with the 335i/135i it went from 300hp to 500hp with just a few mods.. if we can do that with the new M5/M6 and make it into the 800+hp monster, and it has the factory option of Crbon Ceramic brakes i think it might graduate into a supercar territory..

Definitely not a super car... Doesn't include the price tag, the exclusivity, or even the performance. If you think about it, modern supercars are 3.5 second 0-60 cars and even the fastest of E46s can't hit those marks. When you also include the lack of track ability, it really starts to hurt any claims of "supercar" status.

Also, and this is key, you cannot turn a car into a super car, it is born that way.

Pretty much sums it up right here. Super cars are designed from the initial Design Review Board for the intent to be a super car. Materials, chassis design, engine development/placement are designed for speed/handling and cost is a very low factor since it will have that super car title. Would you ever consider a widebody Mazda Miata with a turbo Ls1 prepped for the track a super car? It could certainly devastate most supercars in almost every performance specification but at the end of the day...it's still a Miata ya know.

Would you ever consider a widebody Mazda Miata with a turbo Ls1 prepped for the track a super car? It could certainly devastate most supercars in almost every performance specification but at the end of the day...it's still a Miata ya know.

Car is what you make of it. I plan on dropping the Stage 1(initially) AA Supercharger in my 99' 328i, dropping some weight, probably put it on Ohlins or AST suspension, 315 Hoosier R-comps and then I'll be playing with GTR's in Street Modified class on a budget under $10k and with a tire change, still be able to daily drive it.

Any car can be super, and in my book, if you are beating supercars, then your car is "Super"

Car is what you make of it. I plan on dropping the Stage 1(initially) AA Supercharger in my 99' 328i, dropping some weight, probably put it on Ohlins or AST suspension, 315 Hoosier R-comps and then I'll be playing with GTR's in Street Modified class on a budget under $10k and with a tire change, still be able to daily drive it.

Any car can be super, and in my book, if you are beating supercars, then your car is "Super"

Super clean, super fast and super car performance for sure! But "super car", no. Plain and simple, car is engineered to be a super car from day 1. Sports cars can merely have super car performance, not the title. And I think it deserves mention that a supercar is mass produced (quantities are generally low). A highly modified sports car is generally a one off piece with individual tweaking for suspension and tuning.

Plus, can you guys think of many supercars that don't have sex appeal. M3 is a wonderful car but drop 100k+ in it and it still won't be as sexy as a Mclaren F1 or an Aventador, but it might beat that a** on any type of track.