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“With Griffin and Luck and the way it’s shaping up at the top of the draft — could very likely go one and two like with Peyton and Ryan Leaf,” Irsay said. “It’s most likely one of those quarterbacks that you really feel is the best player in the draft, and where we’re at moving forward you can’t pass that up. I don’t think anyone would expect that.”

You always say that he lied to bait season ticket holders before releasing Manning. Well, he made it pretty clear all the way back in January that he was going to use the pick on a quarterback. You would have had to be pretty blind, IMHO, to have not at the very least acknowledged at that point that there was a decent chance that Manning wasn't coming back. Manning is not in the business of mentoring hyped number 1 draft pick quarterbacks who want his job sooner rather than later. In his world, a backup QB is some scrub who stands on the sideline with a hat and headset, and occasionally engages Manning in some chatter. It's not a hyped prospect who commands snaps in practice and tutoring from Manning. Once Irsay cleaned house with the Polians and the Caldwell and followed that up with the announcement that he was drafting a QB, Manning's days were numbered.

If someone renewed their tickets thinking that Manning was definitely coming back, then it's on them for not acknowledging that all major signs pointed to Manning's departure. I always held out hope to the very end that something could be worked out at the last minute, but I always tried to be honest with myself and acknowledge that the signs were pointing to a departure.

So tell me, how is Irsay a liar? I need proof.

I did not hold out that hope even though things were said like we could keep Manning and the number one pick. I knew he was lying and I did not renew the season tickets I have paid for me and my brother's family to use for many years... They call at least once or twice per month to ask me to sign back up. I ask how is Irsay's health and when they say "fine", I say "no deal."

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I did not hold out that hope even though things were said like we could keep Manning and the number one pick. I knew he was lying and I did not renew the season tickets I have paid for me and my brother's family to use for many years... They call at least once or twice per month to ask me to sign back up. I ask how is Irsay's health and when they say "fine", I say "no deal."

You're continuing to ignore my simple request for concrete proof that he lied. If he really did lie, then a simple google search should be able to provide you with the appropriate link in a matter of seconds. I'm not asking for much here. You're very confident when you call him a liar, so I would think this would be a fairly easy request.

Just give me a link. One link. That's all.

Or are you just calling him a liar because you have a deep dislike for him?

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OlBlu your opinion about Luck is born in hate and dislike for Irsay. That's how everyone views your opinion about Luck --- they don't take it serious. Because your opinion is extremely biased, and therefore not a genuine, unbiased opinion. It's funny that you claim all of our thoughts are muddled and clouded to be mindless rah-rah Colts fans, when it's actually your mind that is clouded by hate and dislike for Irsay, which inexplicably trickles down to Luck for no logical reason.

There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.

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You're continuing to ignore my simple request for concrete proof that he lied. If he really did lie, then a simple google search should be able to provide you with the appropriate link in a matter of seconds. I'm not asking for much here. You're very confident when you call him a liar, so I would think this would be a fairly easy request.

Just give me a link. One link. That's all.

Or are you just calling him a liar because you have a deep dislike for him?

You're asking a serial liar to provide proof that someone else is a liar. This is a guy who gets on here saying that Total QBR doesn't punish for completion percentage or sacks like he is some kind of expert even though both couldn't be any further from the truth. When he is presented with the truth of how the stat is actually calculated he ignores it.

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You're asking a serial liar to provide proof that someone else is a liar. This is a guy who gets on here saying that Total QBR doesn't punish for completion percentage or sacks like he is some kind of expert even though both couldn't be any further from the truth. When he is presented with the truth of how the stat is actually calculated he ignores it.

I do not lie. I might be wrong but I don't lie..... Yes, I did ignore it because it isn't the stat that every stat sight uses.... All of the reporters and announcers use the classic QB rating stat that I have ever heard (now, if you have heard one of them use it, you will say this is a lie but it isn't because I haven't heard anyone use it but a few people here who try to make Luck look good.)

We will know in a couple of years. I am a gambling man occasionally and I know which way I would bet.

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A TV show that's "informative" but not entertainment. Because people watch TV only to be informed but not entertained. lmao

I once heard someone refer to his brother as "fat, but fast." This just keeps getting better and better!

Perhaps I didn't say it well. The show I produce is a commercial endeavor and it is not designed to entertain the watcher but to inform him of options, techniques and price points. If you find that entertaining, well, I am delighted. I think 2 1/2 men is entertaining but not informative. I think the evening news for the most point is informative but not so much entertainment (although it has certainly moved that way since my youth)....... Wasn't Charles Barkely "fat" but "fast"? How about the "Fridge".....

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OlBlu your opinion about Luck is born in hate and dislike for Irsay. That's how everyone views your opinion about Luck --- they don't take it serious. Because your opinion is extremely biased, and therefore not a genuine, unbiased opinion. It's funny that you claim all of our thoughts are muddled and clouded to be mindless rah-rah Colts fans, when it's actually your mind that is clouded by hate and dislike for Irsay, which inexplicably trickles down to Luck for no logical reason.

I have never claimed anything different. It trickles down to Luck for a very good reason. It is being a Super Star in Denver right now.... But, even if didn't hate Irsay and not care for Luck, I would look at those stats and say, "that guy isn't what we were sold on him being.". The rest of the NFL has already decided that. Die hard Indy fans will catch up in a year or two....

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This thread is now very interesting.... now I wonder if OB can get us a discount on a juicer or a steak knife?

You know how hippos are made out to be sweet and silly, like big cows, but are actually extremely dangerous and can kill you with stunning brutality? The Pacers are the NBA's hippos....Matt Moore CBS Sports....

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So OlBlu travels around making video of the home improvement folks. Quit being so cheap and get us some free HGTV stuff then.

P.S. to my fellow Colt fans I'm just messing around since this thread has already used its life anyway.

You know how hippos are made out to be sweet and silly, like big cows, but are actually extremely dangerous and can kill you with stunning brutality? The Pacers are the NBA's hippos....Matt Moore CBS Sports....

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This surprises you why?

You have been exceedingly patient with him, but this is a guy who has made multiple comments about how he is just waiting on Irsay to die. I would love to know what purpose those comments serve to actually further the discussion. They are distasteful and uncalled for and only exist to draw an emotional reaction. (There is a word for this in internet world)

And heck, I'm not even the biggest Irsay fan, but even I am glad I didn't have to make the Manning call and I think Irsay was as honest and as up front as he could be about it.

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You have been exceedingly patient with him, but this is a guy who has made multiple comments about how he is just waiting on Irsay to die. I would love to know what purpose those comments serve to actually further the discussion. They are distasteful and uncalled for and only exist to draw an emotional reaction. (There is a word for this in internet world)

And heck, I'm not even the biggest Irsay fan, but even I am glad I didn't have to make the Manning call and I think Irsay was as honest and as up front as he could be about it.

Would you like to discuss some ocean front property in Arizona??? Honest and up front are not words that should be used when discussing Irsay in my opinion. Once again, I am not a fan of Irsay, I don't want to see anyone die. I just said it is a race to see which one of us goes first. I am older but I don't drink our use drugs. I do have type II diabetes so that is a point in his favor. I just don't intend to be a season ticket owner again as long as he owns the team and I would root for someone, anyone, to buy him out..... You are an Irsay accolyte and that is OK with me. I just don't have any use for the man. He isn't alone, I have a few others if you are interested..... Jerry Jones, for instance.