Given the sentences given to men who abuse women I feel that it would be unjust for a longer sentence. I do however detest women who do this, I have been asaulted in the past and the number of people who believe that you are coverinbg up for your bad behaviour is truly soul-destroying.

I wonder how many women were raped on that day? How many of those women managed to report the crime? How many of those reports were actually pursued? How many of those investigations actually led to the CPS pursuing charges? How many of those charges led to a conviction?

narked irrelevent regarding the injust regarding that man and that womans lies.

But it does again bring to light the whole debate surrounding the victim having her name kept private and the accused having his published. Many mens lives have been ruined - mud sticks - by spurious allegations.

Rape is basically legal in this country. I think it would be better to just make it literally legal. That way I'd never have to read another bullshit thread about women "crying rape" and how atrocious it is and how unfair on all the pool ole men and how awful and how they should be locked up for 50 years etc etc ad motherfucking NAUSEUM.

'irrelevent regarding the injust regarding that man and that womans lies.'

Very relevant when a newspaper chooses to publicise this case and ignore thousands of others. Very relevant because it leads to threads like this where people talk about women 'crying rape' and 'mens ... lives ruined.'

She did a terrible thing. She was convicted. She was given 2 years.

Where are the reports of all the rape convictions? Where is the context that shows that this, whilst terrible, is a crime that is exceptionally rare and has been punished?

Do you know how many women are raped every year in the UK? How few of those rapes are reported? How many of those reports lead to the CPS taking the decision to prosecute - not due to any doubts over the veracity of the complaint but due to whether there's a reasonable chance of getting a conviction? And many are dropped down to lesser charges, again based on the chances of conviction.

The rape convictions the media chooses to report on are a tiny fraction. But papers like the Mail always put false accusation cases front and centre.

Yes, let's have one story in the papers every time there is a false accusation and one every time there is a rape. The papers would be like books there would be so many rape stories pages and there would be nothing else in them.

I do hate people who accuse men of rape falsely. It does make it harder for real victims. What makes it much harder for real victims though are; victim blaming; Police indifference; public misunderstanding; misogyny; fear; mob mentality; celebrity meaning you can do what you like; lack of funding; lack of services; single parent blaming (so people raped by their husband can't leave); misunderstanding of 'violence' and how that includes silent rape; everything else...

Around 400,000 women are sexually assaulted and 80,000 women are raped each year (British Crime Survey). The majority of rapes are never reported.

From a Guardian article a year ago:

London's top prosecutor, Alison Saunders, gave a chilling warning that the 'almost demonisation' of women by the media was having a negative impact on the British justice system and leading to acquittals in rape cases. This echoed evidence given by End Violence Against Women to the Leveson inquiry that prejudicial and inaccurate media reporting of rape sends a strong and consistent message to the justice system  and the public more broadly  that women routinely "cry rape"; to rape survivors that they will not be believed; and to potential perpetrators that they will get away with it.

So, if every rape was reported, there would be 200+ stories in every newspaper, every day about them. Well done the Daily Mail for finding space for this story between the horrifying stories of real rapes.

I would also love to know how many of the 'false accusations' are actually real rapes where the woman recants because of all of the pressures on her. In my experience, I know several rape and child abuse victims, I have been sexually assaulted myself and know of no one who has been accused of rape or accused someone falsely. In the case of the child abuse and rape victims I know... no convictions. One was investigated but the child rapist accused died.

The 'attrition' rate for rape in the UK is 12%. This means only 12% of the reported cases result in conviction. About 25% get to court. The other 75% don't, because the CPS decides there's not enough evidence, or the woman decides she's too scared to testify...

Against that, 1 or 2 two women out of 80,000 reporting rape seem to lie about it...

I think it's always dangerous to try to form an opinion about the appropriateness or otherwise of a sentence on the basis of a newspaper report, particularly a Daily Mail report. The judge has had the benefit of seeing all the paperwork, hearing the witnesses, and listening to detailed submissions on both sides, plus sentencing guidelines arrived at over years of experience. What you get from a newspaper report is a tiny fraction of the facts, usually carefully selected to get the reaction that the paper wants. And yes, in the case of the Mail, what it wants is a misogynist reaction.