Hello all. My name is Matt Hacker, and most of you will remember me as Finland and the "BAMF" alliance from last time around so here we go. Through a sweeping series of political changes resulting from the shift of global power, Finland and Sweden have united to form the Union of Federated Scandinavia (UFS). The UFS' primary goal is to unite and protect all Scandinavian countries from outside influence, thereby preserving the rich and wonderful culture that can only be found in wonderful Scandinavia.

Name: Will Gober
Country: Confederation of Southeastern States
Area: Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee and Arkansas (Need Approval, I checked on the population it would be roughly 52 million, not sure about the total area though.)
Government: Militaristic Republic
Color: Royal Purple?Permalink

1. Tom Neumo
2. The Baltic Union, in cooperation with the BAMF, will preserve traditions of the other Baltic States.
3. Germany, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia.
4. Teal

Although not mentioned, the Admins would prefer every person to pick at most two established countries to start off with. So, of the five you'll have to skim it down to two. Sorry for the inconvenience.Permalink

Cliffe, would you please argue with Jake H over control of Ontario? Earlier in the day he expressed interest with "strengthening ties with Ontario." I know that the admins decided that people would NOT allowed to be join in an area of "heavy influence of another nation." I cant make the call alone, and considering the fact that the interest was just from today, I will let you and Jake duke it out. It would be in the Questions forum.Permalink

I have a friend of mine (http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/20531)
who wishes to join this group. Though he has not modern military stuff uploaded yet, he has given me his word he'll get what he has up soon. As his word is now tied to my word, I think he'll follow through on that.

Anyways, Mr. Morgan here wishes to join as Indonesia/Malaysia. I know the admins have population/size restrictions, so I'll let them decide on how much he should get. Permalink

Quoting Evan Melick
Quickly scanning through your MOCpage, I don't see that you have three modern military MOC's. The above is a requirement to join.

Yes, I also realized that. I clicked 'join' just to let someone know I was interested. I didn't expect to be let in. I am currently about 90% done with a Humvee, which I will post soon. You can delete me, but I would appreciate if you could "save me a spot". You can ignore my previous comment...Permalink

Hey guys.
As you may know from Awe's previous comment, I claim Indonesia, or at least a large chunk of it, including the Capitol, Jakarta. I am the Indo-Union, and I also have influence over Malaysia and New Guinea if that's ok.Permalink

Quoting Evan Melick
As we said in the rules and regs, we'd like to keep the max population of a starting area to 70-80 million maximum. You're getting close to 300 million there. Rework what area your taking to fit into those specs please, for balance purposes.

Also, influence is something built over a while. Something like many to days to a few weeks. No one starts off with it.

You're right, Indonesia has a population of nearly 240 million. It appears Ill have to cut it down to the southern Isles, so therefore not yet Malaysia, Borneo or any of the other islands up north.

In that case, I claim Jakarta, west New Guinea, Timor, and Bali, or at least a large portion of these places.Permalink

Quoting Ultramarine .
I'm going to ask an obvious question and ask how for the love of mary did someone get ALL of Russia? That only violates the population cap by a couple factors of ten...

Because I'm an unfair administrator. It's only about 30 million over the rough 120 million "rule". Add in the pattern of the demographic transition with the accommodating age effect and I'd probably be looking at 140-145 million. Whatever I didn't grab would have just been conquered rather rapidly anyhow. That, and silly splinter states that become powers is something we tried to avoid.Permalink

I have a friend who would like to be in this group, but he has not posted three military MOCs yet. His name is Luke M. He does not have any creations yet, but will post his three creations soon. He wishes to control France and Belgium or Switzerland, some place like that in Western Europe thats not taken. Permalink

When has anyone in this group not been able to get a country because of GDP? Aren't you allowed to have two nations? If he can't get both countries, can he just get France? My statement is, I just think he should be able to have both.Permalink

Quoting Matt P
When has anyone in this group not been able to get a country because of GDP? Aren't you allowed to have two nations? If he can't get both countries, can he just get France? My statement is, I just think he should be able to have both.

I didn't get all of China, Danny didn't get all of Indonesia, he can't get all of France. Or something like that. Permalink

Quoting Thomas N
You are going to have to come upwith something more realistic.

Based on grounds of group realism, I see no way the Admins would let you combine Poland and Egypt.

I sent you, like, over nine thousand FMs (really sorry for that), and in one of them I gave an explanation. If that's not good enough I suppose I'll have to just go with Egypt, making my new in-game name Pharaoh Akhnekemhotep (my old Pharaoh in 21st Century).Permalink

Quoting TheSpectre 117
Can I have small bits of unclaimed nations instead of one big country??? (the population will surely be below 120 million)

India's currently unclaimed, I think. Other than that, pretty much all of the remaining ones are dirt poor, so your best bet would be to find someone powerful and reasonably loyal to share borders with until you can build up a good economy.Permalink

Quoting TheSpectre 117
Singapore, Israel (minus the Golan Heights and the Gaza strip), Gibraltar, Mombasa, Cape Verde, Hawaii and any itty bitty area of the Gulf of Mexico left

Israel is in the hands of the Western Confederation (I think), Gibraltar belongs to England, Hawaii is pretty much wiped off the face of the earth, and really, anywhere near the former USA is a really dangerous starting location right at the moment.

Other than that, those countries have no connection with one another whatsoever, so I think an admin would be likely to veto that selection.Permalink

Quoting Areetsa C
Israel is in the hands of the Western Confederation (I think), Gibraltar belongs to England, Hawaii is pretty much wiped off the face of the earth, and really, anywhere near the former USA is a really dangerous starting location right at the moment.

Other than that, those countries have no connection with one another whatsoever, so I think an admin would be likely to veto that selection.

Well, Israel is pretty well under my protection. Since I'm part of the US and I seem to be the only one that is keeping up the alliance we have present day. Otherwise, I think you'll find that Hong Kong is possessed (literally). I would personally suggest India. Tell you what, if you take India (not all of it, you'll start out with a smaller section and grow into it) I'll sell/give you the production rights to all of my 'Indian' vehicles (since I was India in the last group, then I can do that). Permalink

Quoting Nick Shelton
Not because I want it, but because he's not fit to have it.

Angola had a small military, and he tried to do big things with it. With India, he has a large population base and will try to destroy many people with his billion-man nation. Could be me, could be you.

There's still the matter of force projection. He'd have to spend awhile getting things up and going. In the last group, it took me months before my force projection capabilities were fully modern, only for the group to quit...

Quoting Nick Shelton
Not because I want it, but because he's not fit to have it.

Angola had a small military, and he tried to do big things with it. With India, he has a large population base and will try to destroy many people with his billion-man nation. Could be me, could be you.

When I had Angola, I was new, I thought the goal of this game was to conquer the world, I was trying to turn a third world country into a world power, I've learned from my mistakes now.

Quoting luke peterson
When I had Angola, I was new, I thought the goal of this game was to conquer the world, I was trying to turn a third world country into a world power, I've learned from my mistakes now.

@ Awe-
Your mean. :'(

Have you learned?

Yes, I am mean, when I need to be. This is the truth. You tried to fight two Euros as a poor nation of black people, that's never bound to go right. If you can't recognize the reality of things like that, I have doubts about your abilities to command something as powerful as India. You could cause me a lot of trouble, either cleaning up a mess you make or outright having to crush an invasion by you.

Yes, I am mean, when I need to be. This is the truth. You tried to fight two Euros as a poor nation of black people, that's never bound to go right. If you can't recognize the reality of things like that, I have doubts about your abilities to command something as powerful as India. You could cause me a lot of trouble, either cleaning up a mess you make or outright having to crush an invasion by you.

Take India if you really want. I'll be watching closely.

Remember, I didn't start the war, It was henry who had trouble minding his own buisness.Permalink

Quoting luke peterson
Remember, I didn't start the war, It was henry who had trouble minding his own buisness.

You were clearly excercsing imperialism for no apparent reason, and then when I gave you the opportunity twice to stand down you repeatidly attacked me even though you agreed to stand down. So no it wasn't my fault it was yours, my actions were 100% defensive and the strikes on you were 100% tactical. While yours were nearly 100% strategic. You even declared that it was your fault.

And I'm fine with you in India as long as you don't pull the oh I'm strong now so time to get revenge. Permalink

Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Ian MacDonald, who you may remember from 21st Century world as a member of BEAR, wishes to join our illustrious group as Austria, Hungary, Slovenia, and Croatia.

Quoting Evan Melick
WHen you left Indonesia and handed it to Awe, you only controlled the Indonesian part of Borneo. Check the maps. Spectre joined while Awe still had control, and since he never specified part of Borneo he wanted (or really what overall territory he claimed), I gave him not only Singapore, but also Malaysia and Brunei, so no, he controls it.

oh, is Brunei part of Borneo? I thought they were separate nations, and that I have all of Borneo, and he has Brunei... My point is, I still have all of Indonesia's Borneo, right?Permalink

Quoting Tom Neumo
Cliffe wanted you to be Pakistan because he had it already set up for you...

Think of this in the long run, pakistan not much military might, Argentina renowned fighters. Smaller country less ground to be covered if invaded ,Bigger country higher chance of resistance.

I built up Pakistan's military to twice the strength of Argentina's. The tank force is huge now, with a ton of acquired Chinese tanks that have 155mm guns, as well as MT-1s built by Awesome-o-saurus that are just great! You can't pass it up.Permalink

Quoting Maxime MaxSamAlex
Then I guess I'll just take Mauritania. If that is too much, take out Luxembourg.

It's not that it's too much, it's just that...well, what on earth would Luxembourg have to do with an African a hemisphere away? Neighboring nations we can see, but not two separated by that much geographically.

I am the disorganized type. Yes, the kind to take Luxembourg and Mauretania. If that is the case, just take out Luxembourg. And if there are two unstable nations, wonderful! I like war, blood, and more blood. Don't forget. http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/163913Permalink