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I'll definitely take two, but might wait until we decide on a place to order from to decide on size. I find that it varies wildly as I have XL shirts that are too small, others that size that are like a tent, and L shirts that fit fine! And I like my shirts a bit roomy!

Gassho,
Dosho

Ordained Priest -In-TrainingPlease take what I say with a grain of salt,
especially in matters of the Dharma!

Once we get a 'close-to' idea on how many shirts we'll be ordering we'll get an exact cost and then we'll start the ordering process where you can specify size and quantity. I might actually try to make a small, temporary online store for this purpose.

As for clicking 'yes' in the poll when you wanted to click the non-existent 'maybe' button will throw things off a little bit. Please only select it if you are reasonable certain you can do it. - Thanks!

Thank you again for being so supportive during this lengthy process. I know things could be simpler going through an online printer, but I'd really like these to be nice shirts that will last.

There might be people who find it very expensive to import the T-shirts to their countries.

In Mexico for example, importing clothes goes as high as paying up to 500% the cost of the item in taxes, depending on where the fabric or manufacture were made in. That happens if a single thread of the article was made in China. Yup... not a very good relationship with the Song Country.

Shipping can get expensive as well, depending where you are.

So what about if people who have theses problems printed their own t-shirts? We could send them the artwork and they'd buy their T's locally. And then they could donate the money to the charity we choose.

For me that would work, but then again, it's just a thought.

Gassho,

Kyonin

Please remember I am only a priest in training. I could be wrong in everything I say. Slap me if needed.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one. Mr. Spock

Hi Kyonin,
Indeed, that's a problem. I'm certainly not going to stop anyone from making their own shirts. In fact, I think that's wonderful, but it's too bad that we have these challenges to contend with. Would we have the same problem if the item was manufactured in the US?

I'll have to do some research, but perhaps we will just setup an online store with one of the online places that deal with international orders in way that makes it easier for those in 'complicated' areas to ship-to. If you have suggestions here, I'd love to hear about them.

Gassho,
Chris

Originally Posted by Kyonin

I was just thinking...

There might be people who find it very expensive to import the T-shirts to their countries.

In Mexico for example, importing clothes goes as high as paying up to 500% the cost of the item in taxes, depending on where the fabric or manufacture were made in. That happens if a single thread of the article was made in China. Yup... not a very good relationship with the Song Country.

Shipping can get expensive as well, depending where you are.

So what about if people who have theses problems printed their own t-shirts? We could send them the artwork and they'd buy their T's locally. And then they could donate the money to the charity we choose.

I usually look for made in USA because I want to support laborers in my own country, but failing that I usually look for things made in countires with democracy which means bureaucracy which hopefully means oversight. Other methods of finding things we need at a fair price made by fairly paid workers is always welcome.

Gassho,
Dosho

Ordained Priest -In-TrainingPlease take what I say with a grain of salt,
especially in matters of the Dharma!

I did look around for fair trade shirts, but they are harder than expected to source. While I am not settled on any one brand of shirts, I do know the quality of these T's and I also know they are made with fair labor practices. If anyone has any suggestions for fair-trade shirts, shoot them over.

Nothing to apologize for Chris. As Myoku said "Its not taking too long, Chris, we all appreciate the efforts you put into this. Just like Ron I'm just curious because its a great project,
Thank you & Gassho"

As a priest in training, please take everything I say with a pinch of salt