From stan at stans-photography.info Fri Nov 1 00:04:50 2013
From: stan at stans-photography.info (Stan Halpin)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 00:04:50 -0400
Subject: OT: Business Card
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Sorry - but not funny.
stan
On Oct 31, 2013, at 11:19 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> http://themetapicture.com/dont-worry-its-ok/
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
From distudio.pdml at gmail.com Fri Nov 1 00:08:11 2013
From: distudio.pdml at gmail.com (Rob Studdert)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 15:08:11 +1100
Subject: My K3
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On 1 November 2013 13:55, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> Very good to hear. My backup is usually the previous generation camera. That minimizes the upgrade cost, and I've rarely had to use the backup, so any missing capability is largely irrelevant.
My problem is that camera #2 isn't a back-up, it's a working camera as
I generally shoot with a pair and I set them up exactly the same. Just
a short lens on one and a long on the other as I don't have time to
change and any control differences between them will undo me.
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From distudio.pdml at gmail.com Fri Nov 1 00:10:40 2013
From: distudio.pdml at gmail.com (Rob Studdert)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 15:10:40 +1100
Subject: Which lens would you like
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I'm up to #6 now, I see very little Pentax glass in my future, Sigma
isn't perfect but I've had less problems with them than Pentax lenses
and now image quality is on par or better in many cases.
On 1 November 2013 13:22, Bill wrote:
> On 31/10/2013 8:18 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
>>
>> On 1 November 2013 12:17, Bill wrote:
>>
>>> I would like an AF 35mm f/1.4 or faster that says Pentax on the lens
>>> bezel.
>>>
>>> bill
>>
>>
>> You aren't considering the Sigma 35/1.4 art series? I'm thinking of
>> dumping my 31LTD for it.
>>
>>
> No. I will eat my own vomit before I own a Sigma lens.
>
>
> bill
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From kwaller at peoplepc.com Fri Nov 1 00:13:46 2013
From: kwaller at peoplepc.com (kwaller at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 00:13:46 -0400
Subject: Which lens would you like
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> No. I will eat my own vomit before I own a Sigma lens.
YO MARK !
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill"
Subject: Re: Which lens would you like
> On 31/10/2013 8:18 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
>> On 1 November 2013 12:17, Bill wrote:
>>
>>> I would like an AF 35mm f/1.4 or faster that says Pentax on the lens
>>> bezel.
>>>
>>> bill
>>
>> You aren't considering the Sigma 35/1.4 art series? I'm thinking of
>> dumping my 31LTD for it.
>>
>>
> No. I will eat my own vomit before I own a Sigma lens.
>
> bill
From boris71 at gmail.com Fri Nov 1 01:06:04 2013
From: boris71 at gmail.com (Boris Liberman)
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 07:06:04 +0200
Subject: He makes a good argument
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On 10/31/2013 9:56 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
> http://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/the-full-frame-debate.html
It is by virtue of the same argument, Zos, sir, I am not going to buy
Pentax K-3. I have K-5 that is more than adequate for my SLR needs and
Ricoh GXR (with its mere 12 MP APS-C sensor) that suits all the rest of
my photographic needs with flying color.
However, once K-5 expires, which unfortunately eventually it will have
to, I will review the market. At that time, I expect to be buying a full
frame camera. Why? Just because I want one and just because I can afford
it, internet articles be damned.
Boris
From boris71 at gmail.com Fri Nov 1 01:08:20 2013
From: boris71 at gmail.com (Boris Liberman)
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 07:08:20 +0200
Subject: Which lens would you like
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On 10/31/2013 7:21 PM, CollinB wrote:
> 1) If you could get *any* lens for your Pentax, what would it be?
> 2) If you could get *any Pentax* lens for your Pentax, what would it be?
> 3) If you could get any lens for another camera/format, what would that lens
> be?
1. I already have it - A 50/1.2.
2. See above.
3. Probably some Leica 50/1.4 or something like that for my Ricoh. But
then again I have the adapter and thus I can use my A 50/1.2 on Ricoh
too. Which, by the way I do.
From boris71 at gmail.com Fri Nov 1 01:10:55 2013
From: boris71 at gmail.com (Boris Liberman)
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 07:10:55 +0200
Subject: For sale Friday: Pentax K-5, DA 21, DFA 50 macro
Message-ID: <527337DF.5070108@gmail.com>
Hello. From the last week, unless for some reason you did not notice :-).
1. I have two K-5. One is mine, another is Galia's.
IMPORTANT: I'm looking to sell only one of them - I don't really care
which one, so you get to choose.
a. Galia's - we're the original owners. The shutter count is order of
12,000. There's a cluster of small scratches on the back screen caused
by frame of my eyeglasses. Has stock focusing screen. Other than that -
it is in proper order. Have firmware one version before latest.
b. Mine - bought from a fellow at PentaxForums. Has special focusing
screen for manual metering (blank, but relatively very easy to see
things in and out of focus). Has tiny chip off at the bottom of the
camera. If you remember previously I reported that I had strange shutter
behavior in one of my shoots. Since then - shot some 1,500 frames - no
issues whatsoever. Shutter count is around 8,500. Has latest firmware.
Each comes with Pentax magnifying eye piece. I also have the original
eye pieces and original boxes with all the cables and stuff.
You get to choose - European/American power cable, as I have both varieties.
Since I've learned that my eyeglasses scratch the back screen, I've
applied screen protector (you know, the sticky film that you cut
according to size of camera screen). Both cameras have now protective
films applied. I will include few more just in case. They're
sufficiently big so that you could use them for other cameras too.
I'm looking to get USD 500, which includes everything - paypal fees,
postage (will ship with EMS, fully ensured at face value). So that it
will be less than USD 450 net to me, which I think is a fair price to ask.
2. Pentax SMC DA 21/3.2 Limited - we're the original owners. Focusing
ring has some minimal scratches. Other than that - it is just fine.
Asking USD 450 (also all inclusive, so that it is less than USD 400 net
to me). Comes with all the original bits and pieces - the pouch, the
hood, the caps, etc.
3. Pentax SMC DFA 50/2.8 Macro - we're not the original owners. Focusing
ring has this slightly gray-ish coloration, probably result of
sweat/salt deposit from our hands. Given that the barrel is plastic and
it has two tubes design, there is minimal play of the barrel if lens is
fully extended to 1:1 magnification. Will include generic rubber hood.
Asking USD 400 (also all inclusive so that it is less than USD 350 net
to me).
I still have FA 50/1.4 and FA 43/1.9 that I am unsure about.
Pictures taken with this gear, pictures of the gear, anything else -
just ask.
If you think the prices are too high and yours are sensibly close - do
make an offer. If you'd like more than one item - I will gladly combine
the shipping and hence lower the prices accordingly.
Thank you.
Boris
From boris71 at gmail.com Fri Nov 1 01:16:52 2013
From: boris71 at gmail.com (Boris Liberman)
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 07:16:52 +0200
Subject: LightRoom question/idea
Message-ID: <52733944.4020002@gmail.com>
Hello, wise people of PDML :-).
I have an idea/question. Say, in LightRoom Library module I set up a
filter and see some pics. I sort them some, mark them some, etc. Then I
decide to set up another filter, may be from different folder, may be
from different parameters... I sort some more pics and so on.
Is there a way in which I can easily go back to my previous filter
(state of Library module window)? Is there a notion of tabbed Library
module browsing? Are the plugins/addons that facilitate such convenience?
Thanks.
Boris
From pdml at web-options.com Fri Nov 1 02:27:10 2013
From: pdml at web-options.com (Bob W)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 06:27:10 +0000
Subject: LightRoom question/idea
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What you are describing are Smart Collections.
B
> On 1 Nov 2013, at 05:16, Boris Liberman wrote:
>
> Hello, wise people of PDML :-).
>
> I have an idea/question. Say, in LightRoom Library module I set up a filter and see some pics. I sort them some, mark them some, etc. Then I decide to set up another filter, may be from different folder, may be from different parameters... I sort some more pics and so on.
>
> Is there a way in which I can easily go back to my previous filter (state of Library module window)? Is there a notion of tabbed Library module browsing? Are the plugins/addons that facilitate such convenience?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Boris
>
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From lrc at red4est.com Fri Nov 1 03:11:50 2013
From: lrc at red4est.com (Larry Colen)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 00:11:50 -0700
Subject: My K3
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One question, How loud is the shutter? I've become very spoiled by the
K-5 shutter sound, or lack thereof.
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From lrc at red4est.com Fri Nov 1 03:13:37 2013
From: lrc at red4est.com (Larry Colen)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 00:13:37 -0700
Subject: Which lens would you like
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On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 12:13:46AM -0400, kwaller at peoplepc.com wrote:
> >No. I will eat my own vomit before I own a Sigma lens.
What wine would you pair with that?
>
> YO MARK !
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill"
>
> Subject: Re: Which lens would you like
>
>
> >On 31/10/2013 8:18 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
> >>On 1 November 2013 12:17, Bill wrote:
> >>
> >>>I would like an AF 35mm f/1.4 or faster that says Pentax on
> >>>the lens bezel.
> >>>
> >>>bill
> >>
> >>You aren't considering the Sigma 35/1.4 art series? I'm thinking of
> >>dumping my 31LTD for it.
> >>
> >>
> >No. I will eat my own vomit before I own a Sigma lens.
> >
> >bill
>
>
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From pdml at web-options.com Fri Nov 1 03:23:41 2013
From: pdml at web-options.com (Bob W)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 07:23:41 +0000
Subject: Which lens would you like
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On 1 Nov 2013, at 07:13, Larry Colen wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 12:13:46AM -0400, kwaller at peoplepc.com wrote:
>>> No. I will eat my own vomit before I own a Sigma lens.
>
> What wine would you pair with that?
Probably something Californian...
B
>
>>
>>
From cotty at seeingeye.tv Fri Nov 1 03:40:55 2013
From: cotty at seeingeye.tv (Steve Cottrell)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 07:40:55 +0000
Subject: UK PDML: Coming to London in January
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On 31/10/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
>There are no drunks in Greenwich.
And no scarecrows in Kansas ;-)
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From zosxavius at gmail.com Fri Nov 1 03:46:46 2013
From: zosxavius at gmail.com (Zos Xavius)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 03:46:46 -0400
Subject: He makes a good argument
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LOL Boris! My K-5 if I ever get it back from CRIS will last me for
some time as well. I'd have to massively invest in better glass to
really take advantage of 24mp on an aps-c sensor.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 1:06 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
>
> On 10/31/2013 9:56 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
>>
>> http://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/the-full-frame-debate.html
>
>
> It is by virtue of the same argument, Zos, sir, I am not going to buy Pentax
> K-3. I have K-5 that is more than adequate for my SLR needs and Ricoh GXR
> (with its mere 12 MP APS-C sensor) that suits all the rest of my
> photographic needs with flying color.
>
> However, once K-5 expires, which unfortunately eventually it will have to, I
> will review the market. At that time, I expect to be buying a full frame
> camera. Why? Just because I want one and just because I can afford it,
> internet articles be damned.
>
> Boris
>
>
>
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From ldotters at gmail.com Fri Nov 1 04:07:43 2013
From: ldotters at gmail.com (Walt)
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 03:07:43 -0500
Subject: geso big sur
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On 10/30/2013 7:53 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:25:38PM +0000, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>> On 28/10/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>> Didn't get any real outstanding shots on our drive through big sur,
>>> but I think that this is a pleasant collection:
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157637075885303/
>> Disagree.
>>
>> These are super:
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Thanks Cotty. I guess that I'm a terrible judge of my own photos. Both of those
> were pretty much a case of walk up to a tourist outlook, aim my camera at
> the scenic bits, snap a bunch of pictures then choose the better ones.
> I used a bigma with the first, and Candice's ND filter with the second, so
> while someone with an iPhone couldn't have gotten them, pretty much anyone
> with a reasonably complete SLR kit could have, and with little effort.
>
> It's hard for me to think of a photo that "anybody" could have taken as
> particularly special.
>
Those are the two I'd have picked, too.
I especially loved the composition in the seal photo. Maybe anyone with
a decent camera /could/ have taken it, but I'd submit it would've been
by accident in 90% of cases.
-- Walt
From lrc at red4est.com Fri Nov 1 04:11:44 2013
From: lrc at red4est.com (Larry Colen)
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 01:11:44 -0700
Subject: Which lens would you like
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Here we go with the Gallo's humor again.
Bob W wrote:
>On 1 Nov 2013, at 07:13, Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 12:13:46AM -0400, kwaller at peoplepc.com wrote:
>>>> No. I will eat my own vomit before I own a Sigma lens.
>>
>> What wine would you pair with that?
>
>Probably something Californian...
>
>B
>>
>>>
>>>
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From lrc at red4est.com Fri Nov 1 04:12:44 2013
From: lrc at red4est.com (Larry Colen)
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 01:12:44 -0700
Subject: geso big sur
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I'll pretend that it wasn't in this case.
Walt wrote:
>On 10/30/2013 7:53 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:25:38PM +0000, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>>> On 28/10/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>>
>>>> Didn't get any real outstanding shots on our drive through big sur,
>>>> but I think that this is a pleasant collection:
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157637075885303/
>>> Disagree.
>>>
>>> These are super:
>>>
>>>
>
>>>
>>>
>
>> Thanks Cotty. I guess that I'm a terrible judge of my own photos.
>Both of those
>> were pretty much a case of walk up to a tourist outlook, aim my
>camera at
>> the scenic bits, snap a bunch of pictures then choose the better
>ones.
>> I used a bigma with the first, and Candice's ND filter with the
>second, so
>> while someone with an iPhone couldn't have gotten them, pretty much
>anyone
>> with a reasonably complete SLR kit could have, and with little
>effort.
>>
>> It's hard for me to think of a photo that "anybody" could have taken
>as
>> particularly special.
>>
>Those are the two I'd have picked, too.
>
>I especially loved the composition in the seal photo. Maybe anyone with
>
>a decent camera /could/ have taken it, but I'd submit it would've been
>by accident in 90% of cases.
>
>-- Walt
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From pentax at dfsee.com Fri Nov 1 04:21:55 2013
From: pentax at dfsee.com (Jan van Wijk)
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 09:21:55 +0100 (CET)
Subject: My K3
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Message-ID: <100.70580a00a3647352.005@dfsee.com>
On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 14:39:42 -0600 Bill wrote:
>
>Ah, such confusion. My pusher calls me today and apologizes for giving me bad information. A senior moment it seems. Anyway, the silver edition really is a few hundred dollars more than the black
one.
>Being the forgiving sort that I am, and seeing as how he had a black kit with the 18-135 lens sitting on his desk waiting for me, I let it slide, and I am now the proud owner of a K-3.
Ah, nice set.
I think you will like the 18-135 (if you havent used it before).
It is my favourite walk-arround lens on the K5 now ...
>He did give me a very good deal on a couple of big cards.
Enjoy your new toy Bill!
I'll probably wait until early next year or so ...
Regards, JvW
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From pdml at web-options.com Fri Nov 1 03:25:13 2013
From: pdml at web-options.com (Bob W)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 07:25:13 +0000
Subject: Which lens would you like
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On 1 Nov 2013, at 07:23, Bob W wrote:
>
>> On 1 Nov 2013, at 07:13, Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 12:13:46AM -0400, kwaller at peoplepc.com wrote:
>>>> No. I will eat my own vomit before I own a Sigma lens.
>>
>> What wine would you pair with that?
>
> Probably something Californian...
>
(Sorry - couldn't resist!)
B
From pnstenquist at comcast.net Fri Nov 1 07:25:42 2013
From: pnstenquist at comcast.net (Paul Stenquist)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 07:25:42 -0400
Subject: My K3
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On Nov 1, 2013, at 12:08 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:
> On 1 November 2013 13:55, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Very good to hear. My backup is usually the previous generation camera. That minimizes the upgrade cost, and I've rarely had to use the backup, so any missing capability is largely irrelevant.
>
> My problem is that camera #2 isn't a back-up, it's a working camera as
> I generally shoot with a pair and I set them up exactly the same. Just
> a short lens on one and a long on the other as I don't have time to
> change and any control differences between them will undo me.
>
Understandable. I worked that way when I shot weddings. I avoid those type of shoots these days, so my backup only comes out of the box if there's a mega failure.
> --
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From postmaster at robertstech.com Fri Nov 1 08:35:59 2013
From: postmaster at robertstech.com (Mark Roberts)
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 08:35:59 -0400
Subject: My K3
In-Reply-To: <52730F5D.5080007@gmail.com>
References: <52730F5D.5080007@gmail.com>
Message-ID:
Bill wrote:
>The camera is, while different, familiar.
>Sort of like sleeping with your girlfriends twin sister.
Hmmm...
--
Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia
www.robertstech.com
From pixelsmithy at gmail.com Fri Nov 1 08:38:50 2013
From: pixelsmithy at gmail.com (Darren Addy)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 07:38:50 -0500
Subject: FSF: A list
Message-ID:
Just a list of what I have available this week
Pentax-A 135mm f2.8 (very good)
Pentax-A 35-105mm f3.5 macro (one bargain, one very good)
Pentax-M 135mm f3.5 (two, both very good with cases)
Takumar Bayonet 135mm f2.5
K1000 body with a 50mm f2 (cheap)
MX with M50 f1.7
SuperProgram with Sears 60-300mm f4-5.6
ME body (cheap)
MINT ME film kit with all original boxes and registration cards (Body,
Winder II, M50mm f1.7)
1960 Minolta Uniomat rangefinder w/45mm f2.8 Rokkor, cap & leather case
--
Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes.
From kwaller at peoplepc.com Fri Nov 1 08:43:23 2013
From: kwaller at peoplepc.com (Kenneth Waller)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 08:43:23 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: Which lens would you like
Message-ID: <25218902.1383309804190.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Yeah we should stamp this out!
-----Original Message-----
>From: Larry Colen
>Subject: Re: Which lens would you like
>
>Here we go with the Gallo's humor again.
>
>Bob W wrote:
>>On 1 Nov 2013, at 07:13, Larry Colen wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 12:13:46AM -0400, kwaller at peoplepc.com wrote:
>>>>> No. I will eat my own vomit before I own a Sigma lens.
>>>
>>> What wine would you pair with that?
>>
>>Probably something Californian...
From pentax at dfsee.com Fri Nov 1 09:48:30 2013
From: pentax at dfsee.com (Jan van Wijk)
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 14:48:30 +0100 (CET)
Subject: My K3
In-Reply-To: <52730F5D.5080007@gmail.com>
References: <52730F5D.5080007@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <100.f01f09002eb17352.011@dfsee.com>
On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 20:18:05 -0600 Bill wrote:
>
>The camera is, while different, familiar.
>Sort of like sleeping with your girlfriends twin sister.
Yeah...
But less problematic in the long term, I hope :)
Regards, JvW
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From jdavisf8 at yahoo.com Fri Nov 1 09:02:40 2013
From: jdavisf8 at yahoo.com (Jack Davis)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 06:02:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: My K3
In-Reply-To:
References: <52730F5D.5080007@gmail.com> <5EC9C48B-FDD0-4A15-BB83-A6A13D6F0105@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1383310960.28927.YahooMailNeo@web124503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
My habit also, Rob and?without hesitation.
?
Jack
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From: Paul Stenquist
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Cc:
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2013 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: My K3
On Nov 1, 2013, at 12:08 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:
> On 1 November 2013 13:55, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Very good to hear. My backup is usually the previous generation camera. That minimizes the upgrade cost, and I've rarely had to use the backup, so any missing capability is largely irrelevant.
>
> My problem is that camera #2 isn't a back-up, it's a working camera as
> I generally shoot with a pair and I set them up exactly the same. Just
> a short lens on one and a long on the other as I don't have time to
> change and any control differences between them will undo me.
>
Understandable. I worked that way when I shot weddings. I avoid those type of shoots these days, so my backup only comes out of the box if there's a mega failure.
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From anotherdrunkensot at gmail.com Fri Nov 1 09:15:09 2013
From: anotherdrunkensot at gmail.com (Bill)
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 07:15:09 -0600
Subject: My K3
In-Reply-To:
References: <52730F5D.5080007@gmail.com> <5EC9C48B-FDD0-4A15-BB83-A6A13D6F0105@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <5273A95D.6060302@gmail.com>
On 31/10/2013 10:08 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
> On 1 November 2013 13:55, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Very good to hear. My backup is usually the previous generation camera. That minimizes the upgrade cost, and I've rarely had to use the backup, so any missing capability is largely irrelevant.
>
> My problem is that camera #2 isn't a back-up, it's a working camera as
> I generally shoot with a pair and I set them up exactly the same. Just
> a short lens on one and a long on the other as I don't have time to
> change and any control differences between them will undo me.
>
The K3 is definitely different enough, some buttons have moved, the
metering and AF controls are especially different, as is the control for
accessing focus point.
bill
From anotherdrunkensot at gmail.com Fri Nov 1 09:16:02 2013
From: anotherdrunkensot at gmail.com (Bill)
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 07:16:02 -0600
Subject: My K3
In-Reply-To: <20131101071150.GA20637@platypus.gruk.net>
References: <52730F5D.5080007@gmail.com> <5EC9C48B-FDD0-4A15-BB83-A6A13D6F0105@comcast.net>
<20131101071150.GA20637@platypus.gruk.net>
Message-ID: <5273A992.7090406@gmail.com>
On 01/11/2013 1:11 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
> One question, How loud is the shutter? I've become very spoiled by the
> K-5 shutter sound, or lack thereof.
>
If anything, quieter than the K5
bill
From anotherdrunkensot at gmail.com Fri Nov 1 09:17:24 2013
From: anotherdrunkensot at gmail.com (Bill)
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 07:17:24 -0600
Subject: My K3
In-Reply-To:
References: <52730F5D.5080007@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5273A9E4.6020603@gmail.com>
On 01/11/2013 6:35 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>
>> The camera is, while different, familiar.
>> Sort of like sleeping with your girlfriends twin sister.
>
>
> Hmmm...
>
>
Probably very few people have had the pleasure of making that comparison.
bill
From postmaster at robertstech.com Fri Nov 1 09:39:30 2013
From: postmaster at robertstech.com (Mark Roberts)
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 09:39:30 -0400
Subject: UK PDML: Coming to London in January
In-Reply-To: <7535C668-B124-4C25-AA39-B8CDD6D7F7CC@web-options.com>
References: <497379d29vpv1o73kj9mv7s4buclbcgttf@4ax.com>
<20131031001041.472654753@newsmtp.blacknight.co.uk>
<7535C668-B124-4C25-AA39-B8CDD6D7F7CC@web-options.com>
Message-ID: <2nb779l2a20bkmah7ccg73k13eb0vu4d2v@4ax.com>
Bob W wrote:
>There are no drunks in Greenwich.
I'm not drunk, I'm just suffering from temporary alcohol dehydrogenase
insufficiency!
--
Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia
www.robertstech.com
From pixelsmithy at gmail.com Fri Nov 1 09:40:13 2013
From: pixelsmithy at gmail.com (Darren Addy)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 08:40:13 -0500
Subject: HD PENTAX-DA 20-40mm F2.8-4 ED Limited DC WR
Message-ID:
HD PENTAX-DA 20-40mm F2.8-4 ED Limited DC WR
http://photorumors.com/2013/10/31/two-new-pentax-lenses-to-be-announced-soon/#ixzz2jOv0efnN
Weather sealed. This doesn't really trip my trigger, but it is nice to
see one of the lenses on the "2013 or later" road map getting
released.
--
Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes.
From anotherdrunkensot at gmail.com Fri Nov 1 09:46:00 2013
From: anotherdrunkensot at gmail.com (Bill)
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 07:46:00 -0600
Subject: HD PENTAX-DA 20-40mm F2.8-4 ED Limited DC WR
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <5273B098.6060802@gmail.com>
On 01/11/2013 7:40 AM, Darren Addy wrote:
> HD PENTAX-DA 20-40mm F2.8-4 ED Limited DC WR
> http://photorumors.com/2013/10/31/two-new-pentax-lenses-to-be-announced-soon/#ixzz2jOv0efnN
>
> Weather sealed. This doesn't really trip my trigger, but it is nice to
> see one of the lenses on the "2013 or later" road map getting
> released.
>
It's an odd zoom range, a bit long at the short end and a bit short at
the long end, but I can see it as being a really useful lens for the
street guys. When I was shooting weddings it is a lens I might have
liked, presuming it's a good optic.
bill
From charlesr at visi.com Fri Nov 1 10:01:24 2013
From: charlesr at visi.com (Charles Robinson)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 09:01:24 -0500
Subject: My K3
In-Reply-To: <5273A9E4.6020603@gmail.com>
References: <52730F5D.5080007@gmail.com>
<5273A9E4.6020603@gmail.com>
Message-ID:
On Nov 1, 2013, at 08:17 , Bill wrote:
> On 01/11/2013 6:35 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>> Bill wrote:
>>
>>> The camera is, while different, familiar.
>>> Sort of like sleeping with your girlfriends twin sister.
>>
>>
>> Hmmm...
>>
>>
> Probably very few people have had the pleasure of making that comparison.
>
I know twins who have married twins, but it remains their secret whether there's ever been an exchange of partners. I'm sure not gonna ask...!
-Charles
--
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Minneapolis, MN
http://charles.robinsontwins.org
http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson
From pdml at web-options.com Fri Nov 1 10:10:45 2013
From: pdml at web-options.com (Bob W)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 14:10:45 +0000
Subject: UK PDML: Coming to London in January
In-Reply-To: <2nb779l2a20bkmah7ccg73k13eb0vu4d2v@4ax.com>
References: <497379d29vpv1o73kj9mv7s4buclbcgttf@4ax.com>
<20131031001041.472654753@newsmtp.blacknight.co.uk>
<7535C668-B124-4C25-AA39-B8CDD6D7F7CC@web-options.com>
<2nb779l2a20bkmah7ccg73k13eb0vu4d2v@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <8C2C8253-F64A-4B02-9DC0-3EC272D7DA89@web-options.com>
On 1 Nov 2013, at 13:39, Mark Roberts wrote:
>
> Bob W wrote:
>
>> There are no drunks in Greenwich.
>
> I'm not drunk, I'm just suffering from temporary alcohol dehydrogenase
> insufficiency!
I can't tell if you'd have to be drunk to write a thing like that, or if you could only do it sober!
B
From str at komkon.org Fri Nov 1 12:16:06 2013
From: str at komkon.org (Igor Roshchin)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 12:16:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Did the last k5* firmware update fix the Video codec issue? (and
conversion script)
Message-ID: <201311011616.rA1GG6W8012719@trantor.komkon.org>
As some knowledgeable PDMLers pointed out to me a few months ago,
all K5s (at least as of release of K5 II*) had a bug related to the
FFMPEG audio codec which resulted in a clicking noise once uploaded
to Youtube (or, possibly played in some players).
http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2013-July/353117.html
This forces me convert videos before I upload them to Youtube, which
is a PITA, and takes considerable amount of time.
So, my question is whether any changes to the codec were made in the
recent firmware updates?
My guess is no, and I just don't feel like testing it, but I thought
maybe somebody already tested it.
BTW, in case it is useful for anybody, my solution for the conversion
before uploading to youtube is this .bat script in Windows, using
Avidemux v.2.6.4. I copy this script to the folder where my videos are,
and it creates a subfolder "UPLOAD", where it saves the new videos
with the -upload added to the file name.
Along the way, I recode the audio and the video, compressing them
to minimize the time it takes for the upload.
(I am not making Hi-Fi movies, so, that's OK for my purposes.)
This might not be the best combination of codecs, but it took me some
time to play with those to make sure they work with Youtube.
============================ 88==============================
Igor
From ldotters at gmail.com Fri Nov 1 14:00:40 2013
From: ldotters at gmail.com (Walt)
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 13:00:40 -0500
Subject: UK PDML: Coming to London in January
In-Reply-To: <8C2C8253-F64A-4B02-9DC0-3EC272D7DA89@web-options.com>
References: <497379d29vpv1o73kj9mv7s4buclbcgttf@4ax.com> <20131031001041.472654753@newsmtp.blacknight.co.uk> <7535C668-B124-4C25-AA39-B8CDD6D7F7CC@web-options.com> <2nb779l2a20bkmah7ccg73k13eb0vu4d2v@4ax.com>
<8C2C8253-F64A-4B02-9DC0-3EC272D7DA89@web-options.com>
Message-ID: <5273EC48.9080908@gmail.com>
On 11/1/2013 9:10 AM, Bob W wrote:
> On 1 Nov 2013, at 13:39, Mark Roberts wrote:
>> Bob W wrote:
>>
>>> There are no drunks in Greenwich.
>> I'm not drunk, I'm just suffering from temporary alcohol dehydrogenase
>> insufficiency!
> I can't tell if you'd have to be drunk to write a thing like that, or if you could only do it sober!
>
> B
Take it from me; you have to be sober.
-- Walt
From str at komkon.org Fri Nov 1 14:04:25 2013
From: str at komkon.org (Igor Roshchin)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 14:04:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Question about finding "Missing folder" in LR
In-Reply-To: <201310310453.r9V4rugw062678@trantor.komkon.org>
Message-ID: <201311011804.rA1I4PG2014294@trantor.komkon.org>
Boris,
Thank you, that was a good idea!
It allowed me to have both drives available at the same time.
Just in case somebody else might be in a similar situation, here is what
I did.
In windows, using "Computer Management -> Storage -> Disk Management",
changed the drive letter of my external USB drive to a different one
"P:" in my case.
(This MS article tells you how to do that in case you don't know:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/change-add-or-remove-a-drive-letter )
Then I did (in the command prompt):
subst G: P:\
subst F: P:\
Now, I open LR, and I have both G: and F: with the folder Photos-2013
in it. Now I point to it, right-click, and choose "Update Folder
Location", and then choose the same folder (Photos-2013) on P: .
No physical file moving is involved in this process, - so it happens
quickly.
Now, I have everything consolidated on one drive, that from now on will
always be attached as P: .
(Note that G: -> Photos-2013 and F: -> Photos-2013 disappeared from
"Folders")
After that I remove the duplicate drives in the command prompt:
subst G: /D
subst F: /D
Best regards,
Igor
Thu Oct 31 01:02:01 EDT 2013
Boris Liberman wrote:
Igor, can't you use "subst" command and assign another "virtual" drive
letter to the same physical drive?
This little program:
http://www.ntwind.com/software/utilities/visual-subst.html
may help you to make your virtual arrangement more permanent as you can
make it run at start time and restore the subst drives even before you
run your LR.
On 10/31/2013 6:53 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
>
> Hi All:
>
> I encountered the following situation (LR 3.4, Win7):
> I have photos that are stored on an external HDD (connceted via USB).
> They are in a LR catalog, but it happened that they were imported on
> different occasions, - while the HDD had two different drive letters
> assigned to it.
>
> So, no matter what letter the drive has at the moment, a portion of
> the
> photos is "missing".
> So, I wanted to find those photos by "Find missing folder" (they are
> all
> under the same main folder (directory) which has sub-folders.
> The problem is that when LR opens an "explorer" window so that I
> can point to the "new" location of the folder, that one only
> offers the internal HDD, and not the one connected via the USB (it
> doesn't have "Computer" or any other high-level mounting points). So,
> (This is a laptop, so I cannot connect this drive as an internal one.)
>
> Any idea how I can work around this problem?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Igor
>
>
From boris71 at gmail.com Fri Nov 1 14:15:54 2013
From: boris71 at gmail.com (Boris Liberman)
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 20:15:54 +0200
Subject: LightRoom question/idea
In-Reply-To:
References: <52733944.4020002@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5273EFDA.3030701@gmail.com>
On 11/1/2013 8:27 AM, Bob W wrote:
> What you are describing are Smart Collections.
>
> B
I'm unfamiliar with this feature. So it is time to get acquainted.
From godders at me.com Fri Nov 1 15:44:20 2013
From: godders at me.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi)
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 12:44:20 -0700
Subject: Question about finding "Missing folder" in LR
In-Reply-To: <201311011804.rA1I4PG2014294@trantor.komkon.org>
References: <201311011804.rA1I4PG2014294@trantor.komkon.org>
Message-ID: <564145DB-77EB-4564-83C4-E7E2819B620F@me.com>
If you set a drive label (volume name for OS X users, but volume names/labels are only optional on Windows), Lr will use and prefer that, all the confusion of changing drive letters will disappear.
Godfrey
> On Nov 1, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
>
>
>
> Boris,
>
> Thank you, that was a good idea!
>
> It allowed me to have both drives available at the same time.
>
> Just in case somebody else might be in a similar situation, here is what
> I did.
> In windows, using "Computer Management -> Storage -> Disk Management",
> changed the drive letter of my external USB drive to a different one
> "P:" in my case.
> (This MS article tells you how to do that in case you don't know:
> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/change-add-or-remove-a-drive-letter )
>
> Then I did (in the command prompt):
> subst G: P:\
> subst F: P:\
>
> Now, I open LR, and I have both G: and F: with the folder Photos-2013
> in it. Now I point to it, right-click, and choose "Update Folder
> Location", and then choose the same folder (Photos-2013) on P: .
> No physical file moving is involved in this process, - so it happens
> quickly.
> Now, I have everything consolidated on one drive, that from now on will
> always be attached as P: .
> (Note that G: -> Photos-2013 and F: -> Photos-2013 disappeared from
> "Folders")
>
> After that I remove the duplicate drives in the command prompt:
> subst G: /D
> subst F: /D
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Igor
>
>
>
> Thu Oct 31 01:02:01 EDT 2013
> Boris Liberman wrote:
>
> Igor, can't you use "subst" command and assign another "virtual" drive
> letter to the same physical drive?
>
> This little program:
> http://www.ntwind.com/software/utilities/visual-subst.html
>
> may help you to make your virtual arrangement more permanent as you can
> make it run at start time and restore the subst drives even before you
> run your LR.
>
>> On 10/31/2013 6:53 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
>>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> I encountered the following situation (LR 3.4, Win7):
>> I have photos that are stored on an external HDD (connceted via USB).
>> They are in a LR catalog, but it happened that they were imported on
>> different occasions, - while the HDD had two different drive letters
>> assigned to it.
>>
>> So, no matter what letter the drive has at the moment, a portion of
>> the
>> photos is "missing".
>> So, I wanted to find those photos by "Find missing folder" (they are
>> all
>> under the same main folder (directory) which has sub-folders.
>> The problem is that when LR opens an "explorer" window so that I
>> can point to the "new" location of the folder, that one only
>> offers the internal HDD, and not the one connected via the USB (it
>> doesn't have "Computer" or any other high-level mounting points). So,
>> (This is a laptop, so I cannot connect this drive as an internal one.)
>>
>> Any idea how I can work around this problem?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Igor
>
>
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From shark50501 at gmail.com Fri Nov 1 17:07:38 2013
From: shark50501 at gmail.com (Don Guthrie)
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 16:07:38 -0500
Subject: Fall color 2013
Message-ID: <5274181A.4020206@gmail.com>
This is sort of large gallery of Fall 2013. Taken mostly with K-5 some
with M4/3. Micro 4/3 & Pentax mount lens.
If you have time I would love any C&C you might have.
http://donspix.smugmug.com/Landscapes/Seasons/In-The-Fall/32937524_w6833x
From rf.sullivan at gmail.com Fri Nov 1 17:36:19 2013
From: rf.sullivan at gmail.com (Bob Sullivan)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 16:36:19 -0500
Subject: Fall color 2013
In-Reply-To: <5274181A.4020206@gmail.com>
References: <5274181A.4020206@gmail.com>
Message-ID:
Don,
There are some good images in there, but 66 is to many!!!
Show us the best 8-10, in your opinion.
Regards, Bob S.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:
> This is sort of large gallery of Fall 2013. Taken mostly with K-5 some with
> M4/3. Micro 4/3 & Pentax mount lens.
>
> If you have time I would love any C&C you might have.
>
>
> http://donspix.smugmug.com/Landscapes/Seasons/In-The-Fall/32937524_w6833x
>
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From attila.pdml at gmail.com Fri Nov 1 17:39:35 2013
From: attila.pdml at gmail.com (Attila Boros)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 23:39:35 +0200
Subject: Fall color 2013
In-Reply-To: <5274181A.4020206@gmail.com>
References: <5274181A.4020206@gmail.com>
Message-ID:
This year you had a very productive fall, lots of colorful images. I
would pick 3:
http://donspix.smugmug.com/Landscapes/Seasons/In-The-Fall/32937524_w6833x#!i=2854133502&k=5DmgrpW
Nice and clean composition with a lovely bokeh.
http://donspix.smugmug.com/Landscapes/Seasons/In-The-Fall/32937524_w6833x#!i=2854129608&k=3c99Gtj
This just tells me I need to drag my butt out and take a walk before
fall is over:)
http://donspix.smugmug.com/Landscapes/Seasons/In-The-Fall/32937524_w6833x#!i=2871599674&k=WvQXJC9
Nice misty atmosphere.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:
> This is sort of large gallery of Fall 2013. Taken mostly with K-5 some with
> M4/3. Micro 4/3 & Pentax mount lens.
>
> If you have time I would love any C&C you might have.
>
>
> http://donspix.smugmug.com/Landscapes/Seasons/In-The-Fall/32937524_w6833x
>
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From apathyman at lyons-ryan.org Fri Nov 1 17:58:21 2013
From: apathyman at lyons-ryan.org (Brian Walters)
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 08:58:21 +1100
Subject: Kodak Wins $76 Million in Patent Dispute with Ricoh/Pentax
Message-ID: <20131102085821.Horde.7b6CPpzGFFNSdCP9GZt36zA@webmail.netregistry.net>
http://petapixel.com/2013/11/01/kodak-wins-76-million-patent-dispute-ricohpentax/
Pretty short on details but it's interesting that the dispute
(whatever it was) only applied to Pentax branded products.
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From jdavisf8 at yahoo.com Fri Nov 1 18:21:46 2013
From: jdavisf8 at yahoo.com (Jack Davis)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 15:21:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sac. Zoo Owl
Message-ID: <1383344506.29579.YahooMailNeo@web124503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Spent an hour or so at the Sacramento Zoo this PM. Attaching shot of an Elf owl. Bird book best comparison is a Screech!?
?
Jack
?
?
http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=718
?
K-5 w/DA* 50~135
From boris71 at gmail.com Fri Nov 1 18:28:48 2013
From: boris71 at gmail.com (Boris Liberman)
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 00:28:48 +0200
Subject: HD PENTAX-DA 20-40mm F2.8-4 ED Limited DC WR
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <14215c86d30.27a3.01e74ddd2c9adebe22b960e97b060044@gmail.com>
But, Darren, this is just a rumor!
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On November 1, 2013 3:40:13 PM Darren Addy wrote:
> HD PENTAX-DA 20-40mm F2.8-4 ED Limited DC WR
> http://photorumors.com/2013/10/31/two-new-pentax-lenses-to-be-announced-soon/#ixzz2jOv0efnN
>
> Weather sealed. This doesn't really trip my trigger, but it is nice to
> see one of the lenses on the "2013 or later" road map getting
> released.
>
> --
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From pdml at planfoto.dk Fri Nov 1 19:06:40 2013
From: pdml at planfoto.dk (Jens)
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 00:06:40 +0100
Subject: Which lens would you like
In-Reply-To: <52733744.3060809@gmail.com>
References: <002101ced65d$ad525600$07f70200$@brendemuehl.net>
<52733744.3060809@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20131101230640.229803FE0A40F@bmail-n01.one.com>
My first choise would be the 60-250mm :-)
We have a 9 year old, who's really good at soccer!
And it would be nice for a lot more :-)
Regards
Jens
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On Nov 1, 2013 06:08 "Boris Liberman" wrote:
> On 10/31/2013 7:21 PM, CollinB wrote:
> > 1) If you could get *any* lens for your Pentax, what would it be?
> > 2) If you could get *any Pentax* lens for your Pentax, what would it
> > be?
> > 3) If you could get any lens for another camera/format, what would
> > that lens
> > be?
>
> 1. I already have it - A 50/1.2.
> 2. See above.
> 3. Probably some Leica 50/1.4 or something like that for my Ricoh. But
> then again I have the adapter and thus I can use my A 50/1.2 on Ricoh
> too. Which, by the way I do.
>
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From pdml at planfoto.dk Fri Nov 1 19:07:54 2013
From: pdml at planfoto.dk (Jens)
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 00:07:54 +0100
Subject: Which lens would you like
In-Reply-To: <38258EEF7E3B498CB4ADFD0D9EC115CA@kena60ebc3b689>
References: <38258EEF7E3B498CB4ADFD0D9EC115CA@kena60ebc3b689>
Message-ID: <20131101230754.951DFD55CDDC@bmail-n01.one.com>
The F4 100-300mm is supposed to be very nice, though!
Regards
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On Nov 1, 2013 05:13 kwaller at peoplepc.com wrote:
> > No. I will eat my own vomit before I own a Sigma lens.
> YO MARK !
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill"
> Subject: Re: Which lens would you like
>
>
> > On 31/10/2013 8:18 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
> >> On 1 November 2013 12:17, Bill
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I would like an AF 35mm f/1.4 or faster that says Pentax on the
> >>> lens
> >>> bezel.
> >>>
> >>> bill
> >>
> >> You aren't considering the Sigma 35/1.4 art series? I'm thinking
> >> of
> >> dumping my 31LTD for it.
> >>
> >>
> > No. I will eat my own vomit before I own a Sigma lens.
> >
> > bill
>
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From lrc at red4est.com Fri Nov 1 19:18:18 2013
From: lrc at red4est.com (Larry Colen)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 16:18:18 -0700
Subject: Which lens would you like
In-Reply-To: <20131101230754.951DFD55CDDC@bmail-n01.one.com>
References: <38258EEF7E3B498CB4ADFD0D9EC115CA@kena60ebc3b689>
<20131101230754.951DFD55CDDC@bmail-n01.one.com>
Message-ID: <20131101231818.GA11792@platypus.gruk.net>
On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 12:07:54AM +0100, Jens wrote:
>
> The F4 100-300mm is supposed to be very nice, though!
It seems that sigma makes a 120-300 f/2.8 that is supposed to
be pretty good. It doesn't come in Pentax mount though.
I guess they figure that not many people who buy the
"value brand" camera will pick up $3600 sports lenses.
> Regards
> Jens
> --
> Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself.
>
> On Nov 1, 2013 05:13 kwaller at peoplepc.com wrote:
> > > No. I will eat my own vomit before I own a Sigma lens.
> > YO MARK !
> >
> > Kenneth Waller
> > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bill"
> > Subject: Re: Which lens would you like
> >
> >
> > > On 31/10/2013 8:18 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
> > >> On 1 November 2013 12:17, Bill
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I would like an AF 35mm f/1.4 or faster that says Pentax on the
> > >>> lens
> > >>> bezel.
> > >>>
> > >>> bill
> > >>
> > >> You aren't considering the Sigma 35/1.4 art series? I'm thinking
> > >> of
> > >> dumping my 31LTD for it.
> > >>
> > >>
> > > No. I will eat my own vomit before I own a Sigma lens.
> > >
> > > bill
> >
> >
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From zosxavius at gmail.com Fri Nov 1 21:12:20 2013
From: zosxavius at gmail.com (Zos Xavius)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 21:12:20 -0400
Subject: HD PENTAX-DA 20-40mm F2.8-4 ED Limited DC WR
In-Reply-To: <14215c86d30.27a3.01e74ddd2c9adebe22b960e97b060044@gmail.com>
References:
<14215c86d30.27a3.01e74ddd2c9adebe22b960e97b060044@gmail.com>
Message-ID:
The pictures are fake too?
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:
> But, Darren, this is just a rumor!
>
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>
>
>
> On November 1, 2013 3:40:13 PM Darren Addy wrote:
>>
>> HD PENTAX-DA 20-40mm F2.8-4 ED Limited DC WR
>>
>> http://photorumors.com/2013/10/31/two-new-pentax-lenses-to-be-announced-soon/#ixzz2jOv0efnN
>>
>> Weather sealed. This doesn't really trip my trigger, but it is nice to
>> see one of the lenses on the "2013 or later" road map getting
>> released.
>>
>> --
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>>
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From str at komkon.org Fri Nov 1 23:17:39 2013
From: str at komkon.org (Igor Roshchin)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 23:17:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Question about finding "Missing folder" in LR
In-Reply-To: <201311011804.rA1I4PG2014294@trantor.komkon.org>
Message-ID: <201311020317.rA23HdhE020557@trantor.komkon.org>
Godfrey,
How would I do that on Windows?
Once I import the photos from the HDD, LR (at least up to ver. 3.4)
sets that the photos are on a particular HDD, with a specific drive letter.
I was not able to find how I can disentangle from that.
Igor
Fri Nov 1 15:44:20 EDT 2013
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> If you set a drive label (volume name for OS X users, but volume
> names/labels are only optional on Windows), Lr will use and prefer that,
> all the confusion of changing drive letters will disappear.
>
> Godfrey
From stan at stans-photography.info Fri Nov 1 23:27:02 2013
From: stan at stans-photography.info (Stan Halpin)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 23:27:02 -0400
Subject: K-3 functions - tidbits from the manual
Message-ID: <1ADD57E7-79C7-439A-8DD3-1D63EEAA5E42@stans-photography.info>
I've been studying the (pdf) K-3 manual supplied by Darren a few days ago.
Items that caught my eye:
p21 As an element in E-Dial Programming, it is now possible to change dial direction from the default. Create your own logic for whether a rightward/leftward turn of theFront/Rear dials will increase or decrease EV.
p35 When in LV, the OK button is used rather than Info button to zoom into the view.
p45 Three (3!) AF modes: AF-S, AF-C, and (drum roll please) AF-A which automagically switches between AF-S and AF-C depending on what is going on in front of the camera. Barely defined, not explained in any detail; I'll be intrigued to see how this works.
p59 Lens distortion correction for the 31/43/77 Limiteds and FA-era lenses.
p61 Eye-Fi wireless transfer is Auto, Select, or Off. Flucard wireless transfer is On of Off. For any further information about the Flucard operation, see the Flucard manual.
p65 The HDMI output port can be used during Liveview as well as Playback.
p73 One of the functions that can be assigned to the Fx button is SR On/Off. For those that still miss the switch on nthe back of the camera.
p82 The in-camera HDR is a 3-exposure process, selectable range. If you select that option, you can't use flash, mirror lockup, the AA filter simulator, and a couple of other functions. of other functions.
p87 Simple Navigation is no longer available when using O-GPS1
Oh, and back on p46, details on AF modes, the AF-in-Liveview has a setting labeled Focus Tracking. The table showing options when using AF while composing via the viewfinder talks about setting different sensitivity levels, how many adjacent AF points to activate if the subject moves off the selected AF point. I think they must be talking about Focus Tracking but don't use the term.
stan
From apathyman at lyons-ryan.org Fri Nov 1 23:33:46 2013
From: apathyman at lyons-ryan.org (Brian Walters)
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 14:33:46 +1100
Subject: HD PENTAX-DA 20-40mm F2.8-4 ED Limited DC WR
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20131102143346.Horde.h1OoDJzGFFNSdHKabsQ36nA@webmail.netregistry.net>
Quoting Darren Addy :
> HD PENTAX-DA 20-40mm F2.8-4 ED Limited DC WR
> http://photorumors.com/2013/10/31/two-new-pentax-lenses-to-be-announced-soon/#ixzz2jOv0efnN
....and 08 wide zoom. Presumably that's for the Q series. Could be
interesting.
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From apathyman at lyons-ryan.org Fri Nov 1 23:37:37 2013
From: apathyman at lyons-ryan.org (Brian Walters)
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 14:37:37 +1100
Subject: Sac. Zoo Owl
In-Reply-To: <1383344506.29579.YahooMailNeo@web124503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1383344506.29579.YahooMailNeo@web124503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20131102143737.Horde.inrGTJzGFFNSdHOBIGtX6WA@webmail.netregistry.net>
Quoting Jack Davis :
> Spent an hour or so at the Sacramento Zoo this PM. Attaching shot of
> an Elf owl. Bird book best comparison is a Screech!?
> ?
> Jack
> ?
> ?
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=718
Nice one, Jack. Really sharp around the eye and the background suits
it as well.
--
Cheers
Brian
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
From apathyman at lyons-ryan.org Fri Nov 1 23:44:28 2013
From: apathyman at lyons-ryan.org (Brian Walters)
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 14:44:28 +1100
Subject: Fall color 2013
In-Reply-To: <5274181A.4020206@gmail.com>
References: <5274181A.4020206@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20131102144428.Horde.qfLxWJzGFFNSdHUcZJ-CwKA@webmail.netregistry.net>
Quoting Don Guthrie :
> This is sort of large gallery of Fall 2013. Taken mostly with K-5
> some with M4/3. Micro 4/3 & Pentax mount lens.
>
> If you have time I would love any C&C you might have.
>
>
> http://donspix.smugmug.com/Landscapes/Seasons/In-The-Fall/32937524_w6833x
>
I agree with Bob - really need to see a more concise set.
I like the idea in No 2 - presumably vertical movement of the camera
during exposure - although the white fence is distracting.
No. 62 is appealing as well.
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Brian
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From godders at me.com Fri Nov 1 23:47:15 2013
From: godders at me.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi)
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 20:47:15 -0700
Subject: Question about finding "Missing folder" in LR
In-Reply-To: <201311020317.rA23HdhE020557@trantor.komkon.org>
References: <201311020317.rA23HdhE020557@trantor.komkon.org>
Message-ID: <628CC552-012F-4E6C-BAE9-3EE5A36637B2@me.com>
http://pcsupport.about.com/od/termsv/g/volume-label.htm
I'm not a Windows user, but that page seems to give the basic info required.
A volume label is a higher level file system construct than a drive letter and persists even if the drive letter changes. Once you set volume labels for your system, start LR. It will pick them up and display them in the Folders panel. Once a volume label is in use, LR uses that instead of a drive letter because file system calls to a volume label are translated by the OS to the underlying current hardware letter identifier.
Godfrey
> On Nov 1, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
>
>
>
> Godfrey,
>
> How would I do that on Windows?
> Once I import the photos from the HDD, LR (at least up to ver. 3.4)
> sets that the photos are on a particular HDD, with a specific drive letter.
> I was not able to find how I can disentangle from that.
>
> Igor
>
>
> Fri Nov 1 15:44:20 EDT 2013
> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>
>> If you set a drive label (volume name for OS X users, but volume
>> names/labels are only optional on Windows), Lr will use and prefer that,
>> all the confusion of changing drive letters will disappear.
>>
>> Godfrey
>
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From apathyman at lyons-ryan.org Fri Nov 1 23:47:12 2013
From: apathyman at lyons-ryan.org (Brian Walters)
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 14:47:12 +1100
Subject: PESO: Stream Monster (Halloween Special)
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20131102144712.Horde.NB58PZzGFFNSdHXAamsX6VA@webmail.netregistry.net>
Quoting Stan Halpin :
> I took this shot 3 weeks ago, had looked at it several times since,
> and the creature did not choose to reveal himself to me until
> tonight. On Halloween Eve . . . Not that I am spooked or anything,
> but just sayin'.
> (;-)
Took me a while to see the 'monster'...
A bit scary but nice image just the same. :-)>
--
Cheers
Brian
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
From JefferyTJohnson at bellsouth.net Sat Nov 2 00:08:22 2013
From: JefferyTJohnson at bellsouth.net (Jeffery Johnson)
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 23:08:22 -0500
Subject: OT: A Blog Post
Message-ID: <52747AB6.7010801@bellsouth.net>
Lisa Taron wrote about me and Photo Captures by Jeffery on her blog, The
Pet Blog Lady. If you wish to read the post here is a link to the post
on her blog.
http://www.petbloglady.com/2013/11/stunning-images-of-animals-photo-captures-by-jeffery.html
Later,
Jeffery Johnson
Photo Captures by Jeffery
http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com
/Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within
it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound
together. All things connect./
- Chief Seattle, 1854
From dmann.nz at gmail.com Sat Nov 2 00:30:25 2013
From: dmann.nz at gmail.com (David Mann)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 17:30:25 +1300
Subject: Sac. Zoo Owl
In-Reply-To: <1383344506.29579.YahooMailNeo@web124503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1383344506.29579.YahooMailNeo@web124503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID:
On Nov 2, 2013, at 11:21 am, Jack Davis wrote:
> Spent an hour or so at the Sacramento Zoo this PM. Attaching shot of an Elf owl. Bird book best comparison is a Screech!?
Very nice. Looks like he's thinking about something.
Cheers,
Dave
From lrc at red4est.com Sat Nov 2 01:19:57 2013
From: lrc at red4est.com (Larry Colen)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 22:19:57 -0700
Subject: PESO tasting flight plus one
Message-ID: <20131102051957.GA21346@platypus.gruk.net>
Taken at the local brewpub on Wednesday night:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/10620873883/
--
Larry Colen LRC at red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc
From stan at stans-photography.info Sat Nov 2 01:27:41 2013
From: stan at stans-photography.info (Stan Halpin)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 01:27:41 -0400
Subject: Kodak Wins $76 Million in Patent Dispute with Ricoh/Pentax
In-Reply-To: <20131102085821.Horde.7b6CPpzGFFNSdCP9GZt36zA@webmail.netregistry.net>
References: <20131102085821.Horde.7b6CPpzGFFNSdCP9GZt36zA@webmail.netregistry.net>
Message-ID:
On Nov 1, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> http://petapixel.com/2013/11/01/kodak-wins-76-million-patent-dispute-ricohpentax/
>
> Pretty short on details but it's interesting that the dispute (whatever it was) only applied to Pentax branded products.
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
My reading between the lines:
The first on-the-street digital I can vaguely recall was a Kodak/Nikon co-development. I assume that as one of the firsts, Kodak garnered many fundamental patents on digital capture. Others presumably have been licensing those. Including Pentax. Hoya then apparently picked up the ball and continued the Pentax-related patent licenses from Kodak. Ricoh neglected to continue the Pentax-related licensing arrangement with Kodak (maybe assuming that their existing arrangements vis a vis Ricoh products would cover them?) and got caught out.
stan
From stan at stans-photography.info Sat Nov 2 01:32:39 2013
From: stan at stans-photography.info (Stan Halpin)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 01:32:39 -0400
Subject: PESO: Stream Monster (Halloween Special)
In-Reply-To: <20131102144712.Horde.NB58PZzGFFNSdHXAamsX6VA@webmail.netregistry.net>
References:
<20131102144712.Horde.NB58PZzGFFNSdHXAamsX6VA@webmail.netregistry.net>
Message-ID: <09F9477E-0DCA-4775-8E48-EE794B18EB32@stans-photography.info>
On Nov 1, 2013, at 11:47 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> Quoting Stan Halpin :
>
>> I took this shot 3 weeks ago, had looked at it several times since, and the creature did not choose to reveal himself to me until tonight. On Halloween Eve . . . Not that I am spooked or anything, but just sayin'.
>> (;-)
>
>
> Took me a while to see the 'monster'...
>
> A bit scary but nice image just the same. :-)>
>
>
> --
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
Thanks Brian. To be clear, no "photoshopping" of any sort was used on the image. A square crop, some levels adjustment etc, but the monster is as I shot him. Serendipity is a wonderful thing.
stan
From lrc at red4est.com Sat Nov 2 02:20:56 2013
From: lrc at red4est.com (Larry Colen)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 23:20:56 -0700
Subject: October "best of"
Message-ID: <20131102062056.GA22130@platypus.gruk.net>
Most of these were PESOs in the past week, but continuiong my tradition
of my monthly faves:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157636893059015/
--
Larry Colen LRC at red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc
From ldotters at gmail.com Sat Nov 2 02:41:47 2013
From: ldotters at gmail.com (Walt Gilbert)
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 01:41:47 -0500
Subject: October "best of"
In-Reply-To: <20131102062056.GA22130@platypus.gruk.net>
References: <20131102062056.GA22130@platypus.gruk.net>
Message-ID: <52749EAB.3000405@gmail.com>
You had a damned good month, Larry. Every one of those is excellent.
I would love to see a b&w conversion of 14718, though. It seems
tailor-made for that kind of treatment to my eye.
-- Walt
On 11/2/2013 1:20 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
> Most of these were PESOs in the past week, but continuiong my tradition
> of my monthly faves:
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157636893059015/
>
From lrc at red4est.com Sat Nov 2 03:13:14 2013
From: lrc at red4est.com (Larry Colen)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 00:13:14 -0700
Subject: October "best of"
In-Reply-To: <52749EAB.3000405@gmail.com>
References: <20131102062056.GA22130@platypus.gruk.net>
<52749EAB.3000405@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20131102071314.GA23040@platypus.gruk.net>
On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 01:41:47AM -0500, Walt Gilbert wrote:
> You had a damned good month, Larry. Every one of those is excellent.
Thanks a bunch.
>
> I would love to see a b&w conversion of 14718, though. It seems
> tailor-made for that kind of treatment to my eye.
Since you asked:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157636893059015/
I think that was after he had a fall and the board smacked him in
the helmet pretty hard.
At first I thought you might have been talking about this one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/10621859913/
:-)
>
> -- Walt
>
> On 11/2/2013 1:20 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
> >Most of these were PESOs in the past week, but continuiong my tradition
> >of my monthly faves:
> >http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157636893059015/
> >
>
>
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From pdml at web-options.com Sat Nov 2 05:39:09 2013
From: pdml at web-options.com (Bob W)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 09:39:09 +0000
Subject: October "best of"
In-Reply-To: <20131102062056.GA22130@platypus.gruk.net>
References: <20131102062056.GA22130@platypus.gruk.net>
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Excellent set. That swirly beach on Big Sur is excellent, and looks like one that Ansel Adams photographed.
Mind you, it's a beach. They all look like he photographed them. Or Erwitt.
B
> On 2 Nov 2013, at 06:20, Larry Colen wrote:
>
> Most of these were PESOs in the past week, but continuiong my tradition
> of my monthly faves:
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157636893059015/
>
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>
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From pdml at web-options.com Sat Nov 2 05:54:45 2013
From: pdml at web-options.com (Bob W)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 09:54:45 +0000
Subject: Sac. Zoo Owl
In-Reply-To:
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On 2 Nov 2013, at 04:30, David Mann wrote:
>
>> On Nov 2, 2013, at 11:21 am, Jack Davis wrote:
>>
>> Spent an hour or so at the Sacramento Zoo this PM. Attaching shot of an Elf owl. Bird book best comparison is a Screech!?
>
> Very nice. Looks like he's thinking about something.
>
Probably wishing he was born a cormorant. Hootiful plumage.
B
From cotty at seeingeye.tv Sat Nov 2 06:44:08 2013
From: cotty at seeingeye.tv (Steve Cottrell)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 10:44:08 +0000
Subject: Nikon Retro Video - Pentax content
Message-ID: <20131102104408.611536039@newsmtp.blacknight.co.uk>
Well, a couple of posts on DPReview think it looks like a K-5 from the side...
Is this a DSLR then? Pentaprism looks too big to be a morrorless...
Nikon taking note of Fuji success here methinks. Coming couple of years
will be interesting....
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From eeweir at bellsouth.net Sat Nov 2 07:00:31 2013
From: eeweir at bellsouth.net (Eric Weir)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 07:00:31 -0400
Subject: Filters?
Message-ID: <433EA087-7597-40E3-81CB-F924DFEE8F6B@bellsouth.net>
Midway in my walk back in September I replaced the lens cap on the A 28/2.8 with a uv filter. Recently I thought I ordered 49 and 67 mm uv filters [Tiffen] for use as lens protectors on two other lenses. When the order arrived I had two 67 mm flyers, one uv, one uv haze.
My first thought was to return the haze, but reading up a little I thought maybe I?d keep it. In a discussion of uv vs. uv haze on photo.net, however, I encountered a diversity of opinions about filter vs. no filter and uv vs. haze, and strongly negative opinions about Tiffen.
I?d be interested in this group?s thoughts.
Thanks,
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA USA
eeweir at bellsouth.net
"We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors,
we borrow it from our children."
- Chief Seattle
From pdml at web-options.com Sat Nov 2 07:24:19 2013
From: pdml at web-options.com (Bob W)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 11:24:19 -0000
Subject: Filters?
In-Reply-To: <433EA087-7597-40E3-81CB-F924DFEE8F6B@bellsouth.net>
References: <433EA087-7597-40E3-81CB-F924DFEE8F6B@bellsouth.net>
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> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-bounces at pdml.net] On Behalf Of Eric Weir
>
>
> Midway in my walk back in September I replaced the lens cap
> on the A 28/2.8 with a uv filter. Recently I thought I
> ordered 49 and 67 mm uv filters [Tiffen] for use as lens
> protectors on two other lenses. When the order arrived I had
> two 67 mm flyers, one uv, one uv haze.
>
> My first thought was to return the haze, but reading up a
> little I thought maybe I'd keep it. In a discussion of uv vs.
> uv haze on photo.net, however, I encountered a diversity of
> opinions about filter vs. no filter and uv vs. haze, and
> strongly negative opinions about Tiffen.
>
> I'd be interested in this group's thoughts.
>
I've never used Tiffen filters, so can't comment on those. I use B+W,
Contax/Zeiss, Heliopan and the top end Hoya filters. Nowadays I only use a
UV filter, although I still have some polarisers. Haze filters are useful
for, er, haze.
There are 2 schools of thought on using clear filters for protecting lenses.
One rational and sensible school of thought is that it is a good idea and
doesn't do any noticeable harm to your pictures; the other is wrong, an
abomination in the sight of the Lord, and should be dragged behind horses
through the streets of olde Londonne Towne, then burnt on a pyre built from
their land and holdings. Yea, verily.
You may recall when we met up in Norfolk I had smashed the filter on the
front of my Olympus. This is the sort of argument that convinces me that
it's better to sacrifice a filter, even an expensive one, than to smash a
lens.
Nevertheless, I don't have a filter on the front of my Fuji X100, nor on the
front of one or two of my Leica lenses, so perhaps I am a whited sepulchre,
appearing beautiful outward, but being within full of dead men's bones, and
of all uncleanness.
If I were to buy a Leica MM I would probably want a variety of old skool
filters, green, yellow, OG etc.
B
From pdml at web-options.com Sat Nov 2 07:25:46 2013
From: pdml at web-options.com (Bob W)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 11:25:46 -0000
Subject: Nikon Retro Video - Pentax content
In-Reply-To: <20131102104408.611536039@newsmtp.blacknight.co.uk>
References: <20131102104408.611536039@newsmtp.blacknight.co.uk>
Message-ID: <100E2723B2154C4EB10C5BE1725FC54F@Vostro>
what a load of old bollocks those Nikon ads are.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-bounces at pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steve Cottrell
> Sent: 02 November 2013 10:44
> To: pentax list
> Subject: Nikon Retro Video - Pentax content
>
> Well, a couple of posts on DPReview think it looks like a K-5
> from the side...
>
>
>
> Is this a DSLR then? Pentaprism looks too big to be a morrorless...
>
> Nikon taking note of Fuji success here methinks. Coming
> couple of years will be interesting....
From jdavisf8 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 2 07:46:51 2013
From: jdavisf8 at yahoo.com (Jack Davis)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 04:46:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Filters?
In-Reply-To: <433EA087-7597-40E3-81CB-F924DFEE8F6B@bellsouth.net>
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First, there is the resolution reduction, however slight,?caused by requiring the light to pass through two additional glass surfaces.
For me, the filter glass clarity is a bothersome?unknown.
?
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Weir
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Cc:
Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2013 4:00 AM
Subject: Filters?
Midway in my walk back in September I replaced the lens cap on the A 28/2.8 with a uv filter. Recently I thought I ordered 49 and 67 mm uv filters [Tiffen] for use as lens protectors on two other lenses. When the order arrived I had two 67 mm flyers, one uv, one uv haze.
My first thought was to return the haze, but reading up a little I thought maybe I?d keep it. In a discussion of uv vs. uv haze on photo.net, however, I encountered a diversity of opinions about filter vs. no filter and uv vs. haze, and strongly negative opinions about Tiffen.
I?d be interested in this group?s thoughts.
Thanks,
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA? USA
eeweir at bellsouth.net
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we borrow it from our children."
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From cotty at seeingeye.tv Sat Nov 2 07:50:54 2013
From: cotty at seeingeye.tv (Steve Cottrell)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 11:50:54 +0000
Subject: Filters?
In-Reply-To:
References: <433EA087-7597-40E3-81CB-F924DFEE8F6B@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <20131102115054.355845476@newsmtp.blacknight.co.uk>
On 2/11/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
>the other is wrong, an
>abomination in the sight of the Lord, and should be dragged behind horses
>through the streets of olde Londonne Towne, then burnt on a pyre built from
>their land and holdings. Yea, verily.
I stopped using filters for this reason
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From margus at eol.ee Sat Nov 2 07:57:57 2013
From: margus at eol.ee (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Margus_M=E4nnik?=)
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 13:57:57 +0200
Subject: HD PENTAX-DA 20-40mm F2.8-4 ED Limited DC WR
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <5274E8C5.3050109@eol.ee>
Superb! I'd really like to have this lens!
Now, where's my ******* TC they promised already
i-dont-remember-how-many years ago?
BR, Margus
On 11/1/2013 15:40, Darren Addy wrote:
> HD PENTAX-DA 20-40mm F2.8-4 ED Limited DC WR
> http://photorumors.com/2013/10/31/two-new-pentax-lenses-to-be-announced-soon/#ixzz2jOv0efnN
>
> Weather sealed. This doesn't really trip my trigger, but it is nice to
> see one of the lenses on the "2013 or later" road map getting
> released.
>
From cotty at seeingeye.tv Sat Nov 2 08:04:15 2013
From: cotty at seeingeye.tv (Steve Cottrell)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:04:15 +0000
Subject: Nikon Retro Video - Pentax content
In-Reply-To: <100E2723B2154C4EB10C5BE1725FC54F@Vostro>
References: <20131102104408.611536039@newsmtp.blacknight.co.uk>
<100E2723B2154C4EB10C5BE1725FC54F@Vostro>
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On 2/11/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
>what a load of old bollocks those Nikon ads are.
You really are a grumpy old fucker aren't you.
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From cotty at seeingeye.tv Sat Nov 2 08:07:05 2013
From: cotty at seeingeye.tv (Steve Cottrell)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:07:05 +0000
Subject: Which lens would you like
In-Reply-To: <20131101231818.GA11792@platypus.gruk.net>
References: <38258EEF7E3B498CB4ADFD0D9EC115CA@kena60ebc3b689>
<20131101230754.951DFD55CDDC@bmail-n01.one.com>
<20131101231818.GA11792@platypus.gruk.net>
Message-ID: <20131102120705.1335004489@newsmtp.blacknight.co.uk>
A*85/1.4 with a good vintage Chateaneuf-du-Pape.
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From pdml at web-options.com Sat Nov 2 08:35:46 2013
From: pdml at web-options.com (Bob W)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:35:46 -0000
Subject: Filters?
In-Reply-To: <1383392811.46298.YahooMailNeo@web124502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <433EA087-7597-40E3-81CB-F924DFEE8F6B@bellsouth.net>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-bounces at pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jack Davis
>
> First, there is the resolution reduction, however slight,?
caused by requiring the light to pass through two additional > glass
surfaces.
> For me, the filter glass clarity is a bothersome?unknown.
> ?
> Jack
>
Burn him!
Here's how to make the unknown known, or at least less bothersome.
Take some pictures of the same things in the same conditions with and
without filters. Compare and contrast. Decide.
B
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Eric Weir
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Cc:
> Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2013 4:00 AM
> Subject: Filters?
>
>
> Midway in my walk back in September I replaced the lens cap
> on the A 28/2.8 with a uv filter. Recently I thought I
> ordered 49 and 67 mm uv filters [Tiffen] for use as lens
> protectors on two other lenses. When the order arrived I had
> two 67 mm flyers, one uv, one uv haze.
>
> My first thought was to return the haze, but reading up a
> little I thought maybe I?d keep it. In a discussion of uv vs.
> uv haze on photo.net, however, I encountered a diversity of
> opinions about filter vs. no filter and uv vs. haze, and
> strongly negative opinions about Tiffen.
>
> I?d be interested in this group?s thoughts.
>
From pdml at web-options.com Sat Nov 2 08:37:09 2013
From: pdml at web-options.com (Bob W)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:37:09 -0000
Subject: Nikon Retro Video - Pentax content
In-Reply-To: <20131102120415.1163875615@newsmtp.blacknight.co.uk>
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<20131102120415.1163875615@newsmtp.blacknight.co.uk>
Message-ID: <3E3B5758F9F34805B9F8700CDE62C029@Vostro>
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-bounces at pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steve Cottrell
>
> On 2/11/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >what a load of old bollocks those Nikon ads are.
>
> You really are a grumpy old fucker aren't you.
>
that's why I'm here.
B
From godders at me.com Sat Nov 2 08:41:05 2013
From: godders at me.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi)
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 05:41:05 -0700
Subject: October "best of"
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<780D2532-5650-41E5-8E96-597BE6D5A43B@web-options.com>
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Nice set of photos Larry!
Godfrey
> On Nov 2, 2013, at 2:39 AM, Bob W wrote:
>
> Excellent set. That swirly beach on Big Sur is excellent, and looks like one that Ansel Adams photographed.
>
> Mind you, it's a beach. They all look like he photographed them. Or Erwitt.
>
> B
>
>> On 2 Nov 2013, at 06:20, Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>> Most of these were PESOs in the past week, but continuiong my tradition
>> of my monthly faves:
>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157636893059015/
From godders at me.com Sat Nov 2 09:09:49 2013
From: godders at me.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi)
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 06:09:49 -0700
Subject: Filters?
In-Reply-To: <433EA087-7597-40E3-81CB-F924DFEE8F6B@bellsouth.net>
References: <433EA087-7597-40E3-81CB-F924DFEE8F6B@bellsouth.net>
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Tiffen filters are often ok glass-wise, but often have cheap, aluminum mounts with sharply cut threads that can damage plastic and soft metal lens mounting threads if not handled carefully. They are also prone to getting jammed and being difficult to remove.
Haze vs UV vs UV Haze for protecting a lens on a digital camera makes no difference whatever. All three are designed to filter out UV light scatter, which digital sensors are not particularly sensitive to.
The biggest things to watch out for with filters is added flare and focusing issues. Some are improperly made and have some curvature or a wedge shape to their surfaces. Those can degrade image sharpness and cause AF issues. Even multicoated filters will add some flare potential and should always be used with a good lens hood.
I saw flare problems and stopped using protection filters as a general rule in the early 1980s. But I do still use one from time to time depending on circumstances. Most of the time I just leave my lens unprotected except for a lens hood. I await the Mongol Horde of filter extremists and their flaming swords ... Perhaps I'll offer them tea.
Godfrey
> On Nov 2, 2013, at 4:00 AM, Eric Weir wrote:
>
> Midway in my walk back in September I replaced the lens cap on the A 28/2.8 with a uv filter. Recently I thought I ordered 49 and 67 mm uv filters [Tiffen] for use as lens protectors on two other lenses. When the order arrived I had two 67 mm flyers, one uv, one uv haze.
>
> My first thought was to return the haze, but reading up a little I thought maybe I?d keep it. In a discussion of uv vs. uv haze on photo.net, however, I encountered a diversity of opinions about filter vs. no filter and uv vs. haze, and strongly negative opinions about Tiffen.
>
> I?d be interested in this group?s thoughts.
From pentkon52 at gmail.com Sat Nov 2 09:13:23 2013
From: pentkon52 at gmail.com (David J Brooks)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 09:13:23 -0400
Subject: full frame??
Message-ID:
>From the Pentax
Forums:http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/16-pentax-news-rumors/241252-visit-quebec-city-photo-expo-discussion-reps-many-interesting-things.html#post2561524
Get the hat out Cotty, if its true
Dave
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From danmatyola at gmail.com Sat Nov 2 09:15:58 2013
From: danmatyola at gmail.com (Daniel J. Matyola)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 09:15:58 -0400
Subject: OT: A Blog Post
In-Reply-To: <52747AB6.7010801@bellsouth.net>
References: <52747AB6.7010801@bellsouth.net>
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Nice Blog article and great images, BTW. Congrats.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Jeffery Johnson
wrote:
> Lisa Taron wrote about me and Photo Captures by Jeffery on her blog, The Pet
> Blog Lady. If you wish to read the post here is a link to the post on her
> blog.
>
> http://www.petbloglady.com/2013/11/stunning-images-of-animals-photo-captures-by-jeffery.html
>
> Later,
> Jeffery Johnson
> Photo Captures by Jeffery
> http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com
>
> /Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
> Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound
> together. All things connect./
> - Chief Seattle, 1854
>
>
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From jdavisf8 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 2 09:16:30 2013
From: jdavisf8 at yahoo.com (Jack Davis)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 06:16:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Filters?
In-Reply-To:
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Bob, remember I wrote, "however slight" and "bothersome unknown." Said concerns are not controllable.
OTOH, I find filters often justified?to achieve?a photo effect sought.
?
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob W
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Cc:
Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2013 5:35 AM
Subject: RE: Filters?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-bounces at pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jack Davis
>
> First, there is the resolution reduction, however slight,?
caused by requiring the light to pass through two additional > glass
surfaces.
> For me, the filter glass clarity is a bothersome?unknown.
> ?
> Jack
>
Burn him!
Here's how to make the unknown known, or at least less bothersome.
Take some pictures of the same things in the same conditions with and
without filters. Compare and contrast. Decide.
B
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Eric Weir
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Cc:
> Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2013 4:00 AM
> Subject: Filters?
>
>
> Midway in my walk back in September I replaced the lens cap
> on the A 28/2.8 with a uv filter. Recently I thought I
> ordered 49 and 67 mm uv filters [Tiffen] for use as lens
> protectors on two other lenses. When the order arrived I had
> two 67 mm flyers, one uv, one uv haze.
>
> My first thought was to return the haze, but reading up a
> little I thought maybe I?d keep it. In a discussion of uv vs.
> uv haze on photo.net, however, I encountered a diversity of
> opinions about filter vs. no filter and uv vs. haze, and
> strongly negative opinions about Tiffen.
>
> I?d be interested in this group?s thoughts.
>
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From danmatyola at gmail.com Sat Nov 2 09:16:55 2013
From: danmatyola at gmail.com (Daniel J. Matyola)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 09:16:55 -0400
Subject: PESO tasting flight plus one
In-Reply-To: <20131102051957.GA21346@platypus.gruk.net>
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Now, that looks tempting, even at this hour of the morning!
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 1:19 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
> Taken at the local brewpub on Wednesday night:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/10620873883/
>
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>
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From eeweir at bellsouth.net Sat Nov 2 09:17:27 2013
From: eeweir at bellsouth.net (Eric Weir)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 09:17:27 -0400
Subject: Filters?
In-Reply-To:
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On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:35 AM, "Bob W" wrote:
> Here's how to make the unknown known, or at least less bothersome.
>
> Take some pictures of the same things in the same conditions with and
> without filters. Compare and contrast. Decide.
Thanks, Bob. Guess I'll just have to experiment. But then I'm oblivious to noise eve when the image is loaded with it. Alas, the human predicament: We have to go with what we've got.
Regards,
Eric
From godders at me.com Sat Nov 2 09:17:25 2013
From: godders at me.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi)
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 06:17:25 -0700
Subject: Nikon Retro Video - Pentax content
In-Reply-To: <20131102104408.611536039@newsmtp.blacknight.co.uk>
References: <20131102104408.611536039@newsmtp.blacknight.co.uk>
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Looks more to me like a melding of FM, F3 and modern Dxxx aesthetics in the styling. As we all know, that's the important part.
Seriously, however, I look forward to seeing what Nikon has come up with. A modernized Digital F would be nice ... It would keep my Fs company. :-)
Godfrey
> On Nov 2, 2013, at 3:44 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>
> Well, a couple of posts on DPReview think it looks like a K-5 from the side...
>
>
>
> Is this a DSLR then? Pentaprism looks too big to be a morrorless...
>
> Nikon taking note of Fuji success here methinks. Coming couple of years
> will be interesting....
From danmatyola at gmail.com Sat Nov 2 09:24:24 2013
From: danmatyola at gmail.com (Daniel J. Matyola)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 09:24:24 -0400
Subject: Sac. Zoo Owl
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Strong image. I like the POV; for some reason, most owl image are
full frontal.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
> Spent an hour or so at the Sacramento Zoo this PM. Attaching shot of an Elf owl. Bird book best comparison is a Screech!?
>
> Jack
>
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=718
>
> K-5 w/DA* 50~135
>
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From: danmatyola at gmail.com (Daniel J. Matyola)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 09:25:09 -0400
Subject: October "best of"
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Strong gallery!
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On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 2:20 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
> Most of these were PESOs in the past week, but continuiong my tradition
> of my monthly faves:
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157636893059015/
>
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From pnstenquist at comcast.net Sat Nov 2 09:23:11 2013
From: pnstenquist at comcast.net (Paul Stenquist)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 09:23:11 -0400
Subject: full frame??
In-Reply-To:
References:
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More of the sane old same old.
Paul via phone
> On Nov 2, 2013, at 9:13 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>
> From the Pentax
> Forums:http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/16-pentax-news-rumors/241252-visit-quebec-city-photo-expo-discussion-reps-many-interesting-things.html#post2561524
>
> Get the hat out Cotty, if its true
>
> Dave
>
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From pnstenquist at comcast.net Sat Nov 2 09:38:28 2013
From: pnstenquist at comcast.net (Paul Stenquist)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 09:38:28 -0400
Subject: Filters?
In-Reply-To:
References: <433EA087-7597-40E3-81CB-F924DFEE8F6B@bellsouth.net>
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I stopped using filters for protection around the same time. A halfway decent filter turns a great lens into a halfway decent lens.
Paul via phone
> On Nov 2, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>
> Tiffen filters are often ok glass-wise, but often have cheap, aluminum mounts with sharply cut threads that can damage plastic and soft metal lens mounting threads if not handled carefully. They are also prone to getting jammed and being difficult to remove.
>
> Haze vs UV vs UV Haze for protecting a lens on a digital camera makes no difference whatever. All three are designed to filter out UV light scatter, which digital sensors are not particularly sensitive to.
>
> The biggest things to watch out for with filters is added flare and focusing issues. Some are improperly made and have some curvature or a wedge shape to their surfaces. Those can degrade image sharpness and cause AF issues. Even multicoated filters will add some flare potential and should always be used with a good lens hood.
>
> I saw flare problems and stopped using protection filters as a general rule in the early 1980s. But I do still use one from time to time depending on circumstances. Most of the time I just leave my lens unprotected except for a lens hood. I await the Mongol Horde of filter extremists and their flaming swords ... Perhaps I'll offer them tea.
>
> Godfrey
>
>
>> On Nov 2, 2013, at 4:00 AM, Eric Weir wrote:
>>
>> Midway in my walk back in September I replaced the lens cap on the A 28/2.8 with a uv filter. Recently I thought I ordered 49 and 67 mm uv filters [Tiffen] for use as lens protectors on two other lenses. When the order arrived I had two 67 mm flyers, one uv, one uv haze.
>>
>> My first thought was to return the haze, but reading up a little I thought maybe I?d keep it. In a discussion of uv vs. uv haze on photo.net, however, I encountered a diversity of opinions about filter vs. no filter and uv vs. haze, and strongly negative opinions about Tiffen.
>>
>> I?d be interested in this group?s thoughts.
>
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From stan at stans-photography.info Sat Nov 2 09:42:57 2013
From: stan at stans-photography.info (Stan Halpin)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 09:42:57 -0400
Subject: full frame??
In-Reply-To:
References:
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And more lenses coming to re-ignite LBL in those of us who thought that they had finally acquired everything they needed.
I've seen the Roadmap but haven't given it much thought (apart from noting the 1.4x TC), The encouraging element here for me is that it seems more like Ricoh is really serious and that the projected lenses are not just some vague notion of something that might maybe possibly happen someday but only if all the stars align just right and some mid-level manager had a good night the night before. . .
"Corporate commitment" is the phrase that comes to mind. Maybe it is just about a really good sales VP who has been successful in communicating an optimistic tone down through the sales and distribution rank and file, but it really seems more positive than that.
The nice thing about a large profitable company is that a management with a long-term strategic vision can realize that every single product does not have to make a profit. A FF camera becomes not only feasible but could be quite competitive if it is sold as a loss leader.
stan
On Nov 2, 2013, at 9:13 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
> From the Pentax
> Forums:http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/16-pentax-news-rumors/241252-visit-quebec-city-photo-expo-discussion-reps-many-interesting-things.html#post2561524
>
> Get the hat out Cotty, if its true
>
> Dave
>
From stan at stans-photography.info Sat Nov 2 09:46:49 2013
From: stan at stans-photography.info (Stan Halpin)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 09:46:49 -0400
Subject: Filters?
In-Reply-To:
References: <433EA087-7597-40E3-81CB-F924DFEE8F6B@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <5AEC81DD-DE36-46E4-84DE-E9DEF4E39570@stans-photography.info>
That about sums up my opinion.
stan
On Nov 2, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Bob W wrote:
> an
> abomination in the sight of the Lord, and should be dragged behind horses
> through the streets of olde Londonne Towne, then burnt on a pyre built from
> their land and holdings. Yea, verily.
From JefferyTJohnson at bellsouth.net Sat Nov 2 09:52:07 2013
From: JefferyTJohnson at bellsouth.net (Jeffery Johnson)
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 08:52:07 -0500
Subject: OT: A Blog Post
In-Reply-To:
References: <52747AB6.7010801@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <52750387.5080907@bellsouth.net>
Thanks Dan I do appreciate that a whole lot.
On 11/2/2013 8:15 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> Nice Blog article and great images, BTW. Congrats.
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Jeffery Johnson
> wrote:
>> Lisa Taron wrote about me and Photo Captures by Jeffery on her blog, The Pet
>> Blog Lady. If you wish to read the post here is a link to the post on her
>> blog.
>>
>> http://www.petbloglady.com/2013/11/stunning-images-of-animals-photo-captures-by-jeffery.html
>>
>> Later,
>> Jeffery Johnson
>> Photo Captures by Jeffery
>> http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com
>>
>> /Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
>> Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound
>> together. All things connect./
>> - Chief Seattle, 1854
>>
>>
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From jdavisf8 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 2 09:56:49 2013
From: jdavisf8 at yahoo.com (Jack Davis)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 06:56:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Filters?
In-Reply-To:
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I consider both "haze" and "UV" filters as correcting and have used both. UV especially come to mind when shooting at higher altitudes.
Jack
?
----- Original Message -----
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Cc:
Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2013 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: Filters?
Tiffen filters are often ok glass-wise, but often have cheap, aluminum mounts with sharply cut threads that can damage plastic and soft metal lens mounting threads if not handled carefully. They are also prone to getting jammed and being difficult to remove.
Haze vs UV vs UV Haze for protecting a lens on a digital camera makes no difference whatever. All three are designed to filter out UV light scatter, which digital sensors are not particularly sensitive to.
The biggest things to watch out for with filters is added flare and focusing issues. Some are improperly made and have some curvature or a wedge shape to their surfaces. Those can degrade image sharpness and cause AF issues. Even multicoated filters will add some flare potential and should always be used with a good lens hood.
I saw flare problems and stopped using protection filters as a general rule in the early 1980s. But I do still use one from time to time depending on circumstances. Most of the time I just leave my lens unprotected except for a lens hood. I await the Mongol Horde of filter extremists and their flaming swords ... Perhaps I'll offer them tea.
Godfrey
> On Nov 2, 2013, at 4:00 AM, Eric Weir wrote:
>
> Midway in my walk back in September I replaced the lens cap on the A 28/2.8 with a uv filter. Recently I thought I ordered 49 and 67 mm uv filters [Tiffen] for use as lens protectors on two other lenses. When the order arrived I had two 67 mm flyers, one uv, one uv haze.
>
> My first thought was to return the haze, but reading up a little I thought maybe I?d keep it. In a discussion of uv vs. uv haze on photo.net, however, I encountered a diversity of opinions about filter vs. no filter and uv vs. haze, and strongly negative opinions about Tiffen.
>
> I?d be interested in this group?s thoughts.
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From jdavisf8 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 2 10:04:40 2013
From: jdavisf8 at yahoo.com (Jack Davis)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 07:04:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sac. Zoo Owl
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Thanks, Brian! I'll pass it on to?luck and my DA50~135. ;-)
?
Jack
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Sent: Friday, November 1, 2013 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: Sac. Zoo Owl
Quoting Jack Davis :
> Spent an hour or so at the Sacramento Zoo this PM. Attaching shot of?
> an Elf owl. Bird book best comparison is a Screech!?
> ?
> Jack
> ?
> ?
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=718
Nice one, Jack. Really sharp around the eye and the background suits?
it as well.
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From jdavisf8 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 2 10:07:52 2013
From: jdavisf8 at yahoo.com (Jack Davis)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 07:07:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sac. Zoo Owl
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Probably asking, "why am I so fascinating?" The tiny thing was being held sitting on a leather glove worn by an extremely patient?zoo docent.
?
Jack
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Subject: Re: Sac. Zoo Owl
On Nov 2, 2013, at 11:21 am, Jack Davis wrote:
> Spent an hour or so at the Sacramento Zoo this PM. Attaching shot of an Elf owl. Bird book best comparison is a Screech!?
Very nice.? Looks like he's thinking about something.
Cheers,
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From jdavisf8 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 2 10:13:16 2013
From: jdavisf8 at yahoo.com (Jack Davis)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 07:13:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sac. Zoo Owl
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Thanks for commenting, Bob!
?
Jack
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2013 2:54 AM
Subject: Re: Sac. Zoo Owl
On 2 Nov 2013, at 04:30, David Mann wrote:
>
>> On Nov 2, 2013, at 11:21 am, Jack Davis wrote:
>>
>> Spent an hour or so at the Sacramento Zoo this PM. Attaching shot of an Elf owl. Bird book best comparison is a Screech!?
>
> Very nice.? Looks like he's thinking about something.
>
Probably wishing he was born a cormorant. Hootiful plumage.
B
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From doug at dougbrewerphotography.com Sat Nov 2 10:17:40 2013
From: doug at dougbrewerphotography.com (Doug Brewer)
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 10:17:40 -0400
Subject: Filters?
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On 11/2/13 7:24 AM, Bob W wrote:
> the other is wrong, an abomination in the sight of the Lord, and
> should be dragged behind horses through the streets of olde Londonne
> Towne, then burnt on a pyre built from their land and holdings. Yea,
> verily.
you forgot the salting of the earth part and the foulest curse upon
descendents, but yeah. Verily.
From jdavisf8 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 2 10:19:11 2013
From: jdavisf8 at yahoo.com (Jack Davis)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 07:19:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sac. Zoo Owl
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Yes, there were some of those "full frontals" but for a number reasons, including the background,
Glad I did, I find the white of the eye especially interesting and it's probably due to side lighting.(?)
?
Jack
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Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2013 6:24 AM
Subject: Re: Sac. Zoo Owl
Strong image.? I like the POV;? for some reason, most owl image are
full frontal.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
> Spent an hour or so at the Sacramento Zoo this PM. Attaching shot of an Elf owl. Bird book best comparison is a Screech!?
>
> Jack
>
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=718
>
> K-5 w/DA* 50~135
>
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From anotherdrunkensot at gmail.com Sat Nov 2 10:22:13 2013
From: anotherdrunkensot at gmail.com (Bill)
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 08:22:13 -0600
Subject: Filters?
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On 02/11/2013 5:00 AM, Eric Weir wrote:
>
> Midway in my walk back in September I replaced the lens cap on the A 28/2.8 with a uv filter. Recently I thought I ordered 49 and 67 mm uv filters [Tiffen] for use as lens protectors on two other lenses. When the order arrived I had two 67 mm flyers, one uv, one uv haze.
>
> My first thought was to return the haze, but reading up a little I thought maybe I?d keep it. In a discussion of uv vs. uv haze on photo.net, however, I encountered a diversity of opinions about filter vs. no filter and uv vs. haze, and strongly negative opinions about Tiffen.
>
> I?d be interested in this group?s thoughts.
>
>
The only time I use filters is when I need a polarizer. If you want
protection, buy a lens hood.
bill
From pentkon52 at gmail.com Sat Nov 2 10:25:34 2013
From: pentkon52 at gmail.com (David J Brooks)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 10:25:34 -0400
Subject: full frame??
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On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> More of the sane old same old.
It must be true, how can you ignore an internet forum that banned Bill Robb.
Dave
>
> Paul via phone
>
>> On Nov 2, 2013, at 9:13 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>>
>> From the Pentax
>> Forums:http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/16-pentax-news-rumors/241252-visit-quebec-city-photo-expo-discussion-reps-many-interesting-things.html#post2561524
>>
>> Get the hat out Cotty, if its true
>>
>> Dave
>>
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>> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
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From anotherdrunkensot at gmail.com Sat Nov 2 10:26:06 2013
From: anotherdrunkensot at gmail.com (Bill)
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 08:26:06 -0600
Subject: Nikon Retro Video - Pentax content
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References: <20131102104408.611536039@newsmtp.blacknight.co.uk><100E2723B2154C4EB10C5BE1725FC54F@Vostro> <20131102120415.1163875615@newsmtp.blacknight.co.uk>
<3E3B5758F9F34805B9F8700CDE62C029@Vostro>
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On 02/11/2013 6:37 AM, Bob W wrote:
>
>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-bounces at pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steve Cottrell
>>
>> On 2/11/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>> what a load of old bollocks those Nikon ads are.
>>
>> You really are a grumpy old fucker aren't you.
>>
>
> that's why I'm here.
>
Thanks for taking over for me. With the meds I'm on, I'm having a hard
time being grumpy.
bill
From bruce.walker at gmail.com Sat Nov 2 11:07:07 2013
From: bruce.walker at gmail.com (Bruce Walker)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 11:07:07 -0400
Subject: October "best of"
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You really did have a great month! Couple of those would make a great
year for me, especially the sleeping seals 16035, and tidal pool
(16548). Nice sunset! (15816)
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 2:20 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
> Most of these were PESOs in the past week, but continuiong my tradition
> of my monthly faves:
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157636893059015/
>
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From rf.sullivan at gmail.com Sat Nov 2 11:16:45 2013
From: rf.sullivan at gmail.com (Bob Sullivan)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 10:16:45 -0500
Subject: Filters?
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Bill's right.
For protection, buy a lens hood.
It also improves contrast and reduces flare in your lens.
Regards, Bob S.
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Bill wrote:
> On 02/11/2013 5:00 AM, Eric Weir wrote:
>>
>>
>> Midway in my walk back in September I replaced the lens cap on the A
>> 28/2.8 with a uv filter. Recently I thought I ordered 49 and 67 mm uv
>> filters [Tiffen] for use as lens protectors on two other lenses. When the
>> order arrived I had two 67 mm flyers, one uv, one uv haze.
>>
>> My first thought was to return the haze, but reading up a little I thought
>> maybe I?d keep it. In a discussion of uv vs. uv haze on photo.net, however,
>> I encountered a diversity of opinions about filter vs. no filter and uv vs.
>> haze, and strongly negative opinions about Tiffen.
>>
>> I?d be interested in this group?s thoughts.
>>
>>
> The only time I use filters is when I need a polarizer. If you want
> protection, buy a lens hood.
>
> bill
>
>
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From rf.sullivan at gmail.com Sat Nov 2 11:25:11 2013
From: rf.sullivan at gmail.com (Bob Sullivan)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 10:25:11 -0500
Subject: full frame??
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They banned Wheatfield Willy? Bastards!!! Who's keeping them honest?!!
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 9:25 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> More of the sane old same old.
>
> It must be true, how can you ignore an internet forum that banned Bill Robb.
>
> Dave
>>
>> Paul via phone
>>
>>> On Nov 2, 2013, at 9:13 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>>>
>>> From the Pentax
>>> Forums:http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/16-pentax-news-rumors/241252-visit-quebec-city-photo-expo-discussion-reps-many-interesting-things.html#post2561524
>>>
>>> Get the hat out Cotty, if its true
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
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From kwaller at peoplepc.com Sat Nov 2 12:04:20 2013
From: kwaller at peoplepc.com (Kenneth Waller)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:04:20 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: PESO tasting flight plus one
Message-ID: <29800363.1383408260726.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Looks to me like tasting flight plus two !
-----Original Message-----
>From: Larry Colen
>Subject: PESO tasting flight plus one
>
>Taken at the local brewpub on Wednesday night:
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/10620873883/
>
>--
>Larry Colen LRC at red4est.com http://red4est.com/
From ldotters at gmail.com Sat Nov 2 12:05:12 2013
From: ldotters at gmail.com (Walt Gilbert)
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 11:05:12 -0500
Subject: Filters?
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On 11/2/2013 9:22 AM, Bill wrote:
> On 02/11/2013 5:00 AM, Eric Weir wrote:
>>
>> Midway in my walk back in September I replaced the lens cap on the A
>> 28/2.8 with a uv filter. Recently I thought I ordered 49 and 67 mm uv
>> filters [Tiffen] for use as lens protectors on two other lenses. When
>> the order arrived I had two 67 mm flyers, one uv, one uv haze.
>>
>> My first thought was to return the haze, but reading up a little I
>> thought maybe I?d keep it. In a discussion of uv vs. uv haze on
>> photo.net, however, I encountered a diversity of opinions about
>> filter vs. no filter and uv vs. haze, and strongly negative opinions
>> about Tiffen.
>>
>> I?d be interested in this group?s thoughts.
>>
>>
> The only time I use filters is when I need a polarizer. If you want
> protection, buy a lens hood.
>
> bill
>
That's been my approach ever since Paul Stenquist settled the question
for me by saying something to the effect of, "filters turn good glass
into average glass".
-- Walt
From kwaller at peoplepc.com Sat Nov 2 12:07:22 2013
From: kwaller at peoplepc.com (Kenneth Waller)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:07:22 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: October "best of"
Message-ID: <33203809.1383408443174.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Larry, it looks like a nice selection of thought out images!
Nice job!
-----Original Message-----
>From: Larry Colen
>Subject: October "best of"
>
>Most of these were PESOs in the past week, but continuiong my tradition
>of my monthly faves:
>http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157636893059015/
>
>--
>Larry Colen LRC at red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc
From bruce.walker at gmail.com Sat Nov 2 12:07:46 2013
From: bruce.walker at gmail.com (Bruce Walker)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:07:46 -0400
Subject: Filters?
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And big lens hoods impress the ladies.
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
> Bill's right.
> For protection, buy a lens hood.
> It also improves contrast and reduces flare in your lens.
> Regards, Bob S.
>
> On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Bill wrote:
>> On 02/11/2013 5:00 AM, Eric Weir wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Midway in my walk back in September I replaced the lens cap on the A
>>> 28/2.8 with a uv filter. Recently I thought I ordered 49 and 67 mm uv
>>> filters [Tiffen] for use as lens protectors on two other lenses. When the
>>> order arrived I had two 67 mm flyers, one uv, one uv haze.
>>>
>>> My first thought was to return the haze, but reading up a little I thought
>>> maybe I?d keep it. In a discussion of uv vs. uv haze on photo.net, however,
>>> I encountered a diversity of opinions about filter vs. no filter and uv vs.
>>> haze, and strongly negative opinions about Tiffen.
>>>
>>> I?d be interested in this group?s thoughts.
>>>
>>>
>> The only time I use filters is when I need a polarizer. If you want
>> protection, buy a lens hood.
>>
>> bill
>>
>>
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From ldotters at gmail.com Sat Nov 2 12:11:38 2013
From: ldotters at gmail.com (Walt Gilbert)
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 11:11:38 -0500
Subject: October "best of"
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On 11/2/2013 2:13 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 01:41:47AM -0500, Walt Gilbert wrote:
>> You had a damned good month, Larry. Every one of those is excellent.
> Thanks a bunch.
>
>> I would love to see a b&w conversion of 14718, though. It seems
>> tailor-made for that kind of treatment to my eye.
> Since you asked:
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157636893059015/
Looks like it didn't make it into the set, but I found it under the
"Recent" category. That's what I had in mind. The background certainly
looks more interesting to my eye in a b&w
It's a nice shot either way, but I do like the b&w rendering better.
-- Walt
From lrc at red4est.com Sat Nov 2 12:16:27 2013
From: lrc at red4est.com (Larry Colen)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 09:16:27 -0700
Subject: PESO tasting flight plus one
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On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 12:04:20PM -0400, Kenneth Waller wrote:
>
> Looks to me like tasting flight plus two !
The tasting flights at BC Breweryof one of everything (except the
premium or whatever they call it) on tap.
Looking on facebook, this seems to be their tap list:
Golden Promise ESB 5.0% abv 35 IBU?s Served on nitrogen
West Park Wit 5.5% abv 11 IBU?s
Redwood Ale 6.0% abv 30 IBU?s
Spirit Stag XPA 6.0% abv 32 IBU?s
San Lorenzo Porter 5.8% abv
Ghost Pumpkin 6.5% abv 20
Dragon?s Breath IPA 7.6% abv
Yikes! the Tripel 10.3% abv 36
Russian Ridge Imperial Stout 8.4% abv
The porter was interesting, it was made with toasted coconut.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Larry Colen
> >Subject: PESO tasting flight plus one
> >
> >Taken at the local brewpub on Wednesday night:
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/10620873883/
> >
> >--
> >Larry Colen LRC at red4est.com http://red4est.com/
>
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From kwaller at peoplepc.com Sat Nov 2 12:20:27 2013
From: kwaller at peoplepc.com (Kenneth Waller)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:20:27 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: Filters?
Message-ID: <14872970.1383409227521.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
I've always used UV filters on all my lenses, except the 600. Mine are all Pentax or top end B+W. I have polarizers for most of my lenses which are used when the occasion calls for them. Use to have numerous other filters when I shot film, which are mostly not needed now with digital. Filters have saved damage to my lenses on more than one occasion.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob W
>Subject: RE: Filters?
>
>
>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-bounces at pdml.net] On Behalf Of Eric Weir
>>
>>
>> Midway in my walk back in September I replaced the lens cap
>> on the A 28/2.8 with a uv filter. Recently I thought I
>> ordered 49 and 67 mm uv filters [Tiffen] for use as lens
>> protectors on two other lenses. When the order arrived I had
>> two 67 mm flyers, one uv, one uv haze.
>>
>> My first thought was to return the haze, but reading up a
>> little I thought maybe I'd keep it. In a discussion of uv vs.
>> uv haze on photo.net, however, I encountered a diversity of
>> opinions about filter vs. no filter and uv vs. haze, and
>> strongly negative opinions about Tiffen.
>>
>> I'd be interested in this group's thoughts.
>>
>
>I've never used Tiffen filters, so can't comment on those. I use B+W,
>Contax/Zeiss, Heliopan and the top end Hoya filters. Nowadays I only use a
>UV filter, although I still have some polarisers. Haze filters are useful
>for, er, haze.
>
>There are 2 schools of thought on using clear filters for protecting lenses.
>One rational and sensible school of thought is that it is a good idea and
>doesn't do any noticeable harm to your pictures; the other is wrong, an
>abomination in the sight of the Lord, and should be dragged behind horses
>through the streets of olde Londonne Towne, then burnt on a pyre built from
>their land and holdings. Yea, verily.
>
>You may recall when we met up in Norfolk I had smashed the filter on the
>front of my Olympus. This is the sort of argument that convinces me that
>it's better to sacrifice a filter, even an expensive one, than to smash a
>lens.
>
>
>Nevertheless, I don't have a filter on the front of my Fuji X100, nor on the
>front of one or two of my Leica lenses, so perhaps I am a whited sepulchre,
>appearing beautiful outward, but being within full of dead men's bones, and
>of all uncleanness.
>
>If I were to buy a Leica MM I would probably want a variety of old skool
>filters, green, yellow, OG etc.
>
>B
From lrc at red4est.com Sat Nov 2 12:21:14 2013
From: lrc at red4est.com (Larry Colen)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 09:21:14 -0700
Subject: October "best of"
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References: <20131102062056.GA22130@platypus.gruk.net>
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Message-ID: <20131102162114.GB616@platypus.gruk.net>
On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 09:39:09AM +0000, Bob W wrote:
> Excellent set. That swirly beach on Big Sur is excellent, and looks like one that Ansel Adams photographed.
Thanks a bunch. It is McWay falls in Big Sur. I tried to find an Adams
photo of it, but all I found was a comment that they cannot believe he
never photographed it.
>
> Mind you, it's a beach. They all look like he photographed them. Or Erwitt.
>
> B
And thanks to everyone else who looked and responded.
>
> > On 2 Nov 2013, at 06:20, Larry Colen wrote:
> >
> > Most of these were PESOs in the past week, but continuiong my tradition
> > of my monthly faves:
> > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157636893059015/
> >
> > --
> > Larry Colen LRC at red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc
> >
> >
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From lrc at red4est.com Sat Nov 2 12:24:57 2013
From: lrc at red4est.com (Larry Colen)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 09:24:57 -0700
Subject: October "best of"
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On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 11:11:38AM -0500, Walt Gilbert wrote:
> On 11/2/2013 2:13 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
> >On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 01:41:47AM -0500, Walt Gilbert wrote:
> >>You had a damned good month, Larry. Every one of those is excellent.
> >Thanks a bunch.
> >
> >>I would love to see a b&w conversion of 14718, though. It seems
> >>tailor-made for that kind of treatment to my eye.
> >Since you asked:
> >http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157636893059015/
> Looks like it didn't make it into the set, but I found it under the
> "Recent" category. That's what I had in mind. The background
> certainly looks more interesting to my eye in a b&w
>
> It's a nice shot either way, but I do like the b&w rendering better.
There were a couple of photos this month that I was tempted to do
B&W, as they were already close, and decided that I liked a little
bit of color better.
I do appreciate the feedback on my photos, it is a lot of why
I post them, getting other people's feedback really helps me
improve my work.
>
> -- Walt
>
>
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From kwaller at peoplepc.com Sat Nov 2 12:27:20 2013
From: kwaller at peoplepc.com (Kenneth Waller)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:27:20 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: PESO tasting flight plus one
Message-ID: <6843879.1383409640419.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Where I go, a flight is what they bring me on the serving board.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Larry Colen
>Subject: Re: PESO tasting flight plus one
>
>On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 12:04:20PM -0400, Kenneth Waller wrote:
>>
>> Looks to me like tasting flight plus two !
>
>The tasting flights at BC Breweryof one of everything (except the
>premium or whatever they call it) on tap.
>
>Looking on facebook, this seems to be their tap list:
>Golden Promise ESB 5.0% abv 35 IBU?s Served on nitrogen
>West Park Wit 5.5% abv 11 IBU?s
>Redwood Ale 6.0% abv 30 IBU?s
>Spirit Stag XPA 6.0% abv 32 IBU?s
>San Lorenzo Porter 5.8% abv
>Ghost Pumpkin 6.5% abv 20
>Dragon?s Breath IPA 7.6% abv
>Yikes! the Tripel 10.3% abv 36
>Russian Ridge Imperial Stout 8.4% abv
>
>The porter was interesting, it was made with toasted coconut.
>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: Larry Colen
>> >Subject: PESO tasting flight plus one
>> >
>> >Taken at the local brewpub on Wednesday night:
>> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/10620873883/
>> >
>> >--
>> >Larry Colen LRC at red4est.com http://red4est.com/
From lrc at red4est.com Sat Nov 2 12:33:57 2013
From: lrc at red4est.com (Larry Colen)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 09:33:57 -0700
Subject: Filters?
In-Reply-To:
References: <433EA087-7597-40E3-81CB-F924DFEE8F6B@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <20131102163357.GD616@platypus.gruk.net>
On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 11:24:19AM -0000, Bob W wrote:
>
> > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-bounces at pdml.net] On Behalf Of Eric Weir
>
> There are 2 schools of thought on using clear filters for protecting lenses.
> One rational and sensible school of thought is that it is a good idea and
> doesn't do any noticeable harm to your pictures; the other is wrong, an
> abomination in the sight of the Lord, and should be dragged behind horses
> through the streets of olde Londonne Towne, then burnt on a pyre built from
> their land and holdings. Yea, verily.
>
I feel that both schools of thought have merit.
The vast majority of the time, a UV filter in front of my lens is
not going to be the limiting factor in image quality, but a scratch
or a chip on the front of the lens could be.
In cases where I have the time to make sure everything else is perfect,
and a UV filter would make a detectable (though probably not noticable)
difference, I can take it off for a few minutes with little effort.
If I were to only shoot in the studio, with hepa filtered air so that
I never had to clean my lenses, or worry about incidental damage, then
I wouldn't bother with them.
If you are photographing something very bright in a dark environment,
do take the UV filter off because the bright light will bounce off the
front element then off the filter, and will show up in your images.
To see this, just photograph the night sky, with the moon in it, particularly
with it off center in the image.
--
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From lrc at red4est.com Sat Nov 2 12:38:01 2013
From: lrc at red4est.com (Larry Colen)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 09:38:01 -0700
Subject: PESO tasting flight plus one
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On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 12:27:20PM -0400, Kenneth Waller wrote:
> Where I go, a flight is what they bring me on the serving board.
Yeah, you would bitch about getting a couple extra beers in your
flight.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Larry Colen
> >Subject: Re: PESO tasting flight plus one
> >
> >On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 12:04:20PM -0400, Kenneth Waller wrote:
> >>
> >> Looks to me like tasting flight plus two !
> >
> >The tasting flights at BC Breweryof one of everything (except the
> >premium or whatever they call it) on tap.
> >
> >Looking on facebook, this seems to be their tap list:
> >Golden Promise ESB 5.0% abv 35 IBU?s Served on nitrogen
> >West Park Wit 5.5% abv 11 IBU?s
> >Redwood Ale 6.0% abv 30 IBU?s
> >Spirit Stag XPA 6.0% abv 32 IBU?s
> >San Lorenzo Porter 5.8% abv
> >Ghost Pumpkin 6.5% abv 20
> >Dragon?s Breath IPA 7.6% abv
> >Yikes! the Tripel 10.3% abv 36
> >Russian Ridge Imperial Stout 8.4% abv
> >
> >The porter was interesting, it was made with toasted coconut.
> >
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Larry Colen
> >> >Subject: PESO tasting flight plus one
> >> >
> >> >Taken at the local brewpub on Wednesday night:
> >> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/10620873883/
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Larry Colen LRC at red4est.com http://red4est.com/
>
>
>
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From cotty at seeingeye.tv Sat Nov 2 12:38:05 2013
From: cotty at seeingeye.tv (Steve Cottrell)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 16:38:05 +0000
Subject: full frame??
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <20131102163805.1411879498@newsmtp.blacknight.co.uk>
On 2/11/13, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:
>From the Pentax
>Forums:http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/16-pentax-news-rumors/241252-
>visit-quebec-city-photo-expo-discussion-reps-many-interesting-
>things.html#post2561524
>
>Get the hat out Cotty, if its true
a link that works:
or
Better buy some new condiments.
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From eeweir at bellsouth.net Sat Nov 2 12:38:08 2013
From: eeweir at bellsouth.net (Eric Weir)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:38:08 -0400
Subject: Filters?
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On Nov 2, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Bill wrote:
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>> The only time I use filters is when I need a polarizer. If you want
>> protection, buy a lens hood.
>
> Bill's right.
> For protection, buy a lens hood.
> It also improves contrast and reduces flare in your lens.
Thanks Bob and Bill, and to everyone else who?s replied. The pros and cons seem about equal. Still I consider myself informed.
I have hoods for some of my lenses. Never thought of them as protection. My thinking at present is to go with them, but to acquire filters for corrective purposes?and for protection down the road should I change my mind.
A couple of related questions: [1] Larry spoke of using a neutral density filter the other day. What are they for? [2] What?s your reaction to using a clean microfiber cloth to wipe a lens?
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Eric Weir
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eeweir at bellsouth.net
"I can explain it for you, I just can't comprehend it for you."
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From postmaster at robertstech.com Sat Nov 2 12:38:48 2013
From: postmaster at robertstech.com (Mark Roberts)
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 12:38:48 -0400
Subject: Filters?
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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>Tiffen filters are often ok glass-wise, but often have cheap, aluminum mounts with sharply
>cut threads that can damage plastic and soft metal lens mounting threads if not handled
>carefully. They are also prone to getting jammed and being difficult to remove.
>
>Haze vs UV vs UV Haze for protecting a lens on a digital camera makes no difference whatever.
>All three are designed to filter out UV light scatter, which digital sensors are not
>particularly sensitive to.
I'll confirm everything Godfrey wrote and add one more detail:
ordinary lens glass filters out virtually all UV. I have a friend who
occasionally shoots UV and he has to use a special fluorite glass lens
to do so (it's an ungodly-expensive Nikon macro specifically made for
UV photography).
Flare from filters, especially non-multicoated filters, can be a real
issue. Particularly veiling flare which isn't always obvious.
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Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia
www.robertstech.com
From postmaster at robertstech.com Sat Nov 2 12:42:25 2013
From: postmaster at robertstech.com (Mark Roberts)
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 12:42:25 -0400
Subject: full frame??
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David J Brooks wrote:
>On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 2, 2013, at 9:13 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>>>
>>> From the Pentax
>>> http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/16-pentax-news-rumors/241252-visit-quebec-city-photo-expo-discussion-reps-many-interesting-things.html#post2561524
>>>
>>> Get the hat out Cotty, if its true
>>>
>> More of the sane old same old.
I was just about to scoff at this rumor because, well, it *is* Pentax
Forums.
>It must be true, how can you ignore an internet forum that banned Bill Robb.
...but I didn't realize their cred had been boosted by this event.
Perhaps I'll have to take it seriously.
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Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia
www.robertstech.com
From mph at pobox.com Sat Nov 2 12:44:09 2013
From: mph at pobox.com (Matthew Hunt)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:44:09 -0400
Subject: PESO tasting flight plus one
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On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Larry Colen