You could always try to convince some MP friends to charge the president with incompetent negligence, since he is technically under military jurisdiction. I'd suggest doing it to congress, but that would be completely outside the realm of possiblity.

A lawsuit is also possible, if you can find a lawyer with balls that big.

yeah, people like you just want someone to blame right? **** we could probably pin it all on bob down the street and hang him on a street light and then we would all be happy right? the fact if the man was actually guilty or not doesn't really matter because the need for revenge is settled and someone got the blame.

You're one ignorant cunt, aren't you?
I don't see "Bob down the street" imposing martial law on an entire city. I don't see "Bob down the street" murdering thousands of innocent civilians through drone strikes, I don't see him closing down national parks because he's throwing a fit, I don't see Bob supporting the "Patriot Act". Bob doesn't double our nation's debt, then purpose to raise it more.

People who have no idea what they're talking about (like yourself) are going to get stomped on in a political debate. Keep your nose out of it.

imposing martial law on an entire city.
please indulge me
murdering thousands of innocent civilians through drone strikes,
...really? you're joking right?
I don't see him closing down national parks because he's throwing a fit
ah, so you are one of those people that are that narrow minded. let me ask you, when you have a child and one of the parents wants to give the child medicine to make it healthier but the other parent refuses because she thinks it should happen later who is to blame? i blame the parent that refuses.
supporting the "Patriot Act"
nothing wrong here. the sentence "you have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide" wrong. then again, no man i without his faults and you have to agree that america is in need of some matter of defense from such things considering the enemies it has
double our nation's debt, then purpose to raise it more.
a common misconception to hold the president responsible for that, i had hoped that you (given your username) would be above that. seems i was wrong. shame

you haven't failed in keeping me disgusted by you and your kind

can't you see that you are as ******* brainwashed and extremist as most terrorists?
and as delusional as most conspiracy theorists?

Now I think you are even more uneducated about our government/ current events. Starting with the fact that there has been no military intervention in Syria whatsoever, to the common knowledge that every year since 1976 has seen an increase in national debt, except 2000 under Clinton. Other things to note are that no-bid contracts are commonplace in the fed and are used when only one company has a feasible option, martial law was designed in America for situations like Boston, and the TARP bailout was not under his administration, but also kept our country from economic collapse. You really need to read a broader variety of news and information

To be fair, he's wanting to pass a very poorly made healthcare plan that doesn't solve the real problems that would make up 1/6 of our budget, give federal agents authority to inspect homes at any moment if they're "high-risk" homes (which includes tobacco users, mothers under 21, families with kids with low grades, and families with current or former active duty military family members) as well as a slew of other crap. And the way they want it handled is just a crappy way of handling it.

The house of representatives is making compromises, but the Senate throws out every idea. Meanwhile, the President is the one who says one week or else it shuts down. He's just pissed off because people are changing what will be his only legacy beyond being half-black and NDAA (which is not a good legacy) and he doesn't want to be an unimportant President.

think what you want, i think is seems lie a good idea. also, we are not ******* talking about that federal ********. we are talking about the health-care problem. one problem at a time dude.

also, making compromises nowadays seem to involve the phrase "do what we want DESPITE the fact we aren't the elected presidential party of we force you to shut the government down". seriously this is even more stupid than blaming the green party in 2000 for the fact that they didn't do as their "big brother" demanded and surrendered the election. and if you want more then i share the opinion in this video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTJubcZFA78&feature=c4-overview&list=UUGaVdbSav8xWuFWTadK6loA

lastly, "He's just pissed off because people are changing what will be his only legacy beyond being half-black and NDAA" this must be the ugliest pile of **** i have ever seen. ho-lee **** man, are you actually this stupid? this guy is one of the FEW bastards within politics that seem to actually want to make the country better. i am quite sure that the republicans are doing this PURELY out of spite and/or that they feel forced to do the exact opposite that the republicans want despite if it's for the good of the country or not, and make no mistake, the democrats are just as bad when they aren't elected.

hence why i hate politics to the very core of my soul and why i have a dream of fixing it

Obama has not given a **** since he was reelected. And I wasn't bring up those issues, that is something that will happen when it's passed. Federal agents can search the homes of roughly 80% of the country because their family is "high risk" according to their standards.

And it really isn't smart because it's not just making it so the taxes pay for expenses, it's making business owners (including the little ma and pa shops that are always going out of business these days because it's not profitable) pay for their employees' health insurance. The cost of health care wouldn't even be as bad as it is if there were regulations on what's reasonable costs for a hospital to charge.

Seriously, name one good bill that Obama has allowed to pass. One good one that isn't just a whole bunch of **** with a ribbon on it.

I DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE FEDERAL AGENTS.
that **** was not his ******* fault and believing that is is is solely because he is the acting president. anyone else was the president? blame him/her. a wooden doll was the president and someone pulled a string to make the signature? burn the doll, everyone is happy!

what i DO care about is that the republicans are acting like spoiled children who doesn't want the other kid to use a toy

Why don't you? It's bypassing our right to not be searched without a warrant. It's part of the same bill that he's been pushing so hard. And don't act as if the President has no influence over the bills his friends and party members draft up.

And as I said, it's not just the Republicans. The House of Representatives (Republican dominant) came up with plenty of new versions of the act, with less of the ridiculous spending it would require, and sent these to the Senate (Democrat dominant) and the Senate would not budge. Both parties are being stupid, get your facts straight and get your eyes off of your Hope poster for a little bit.

He is not a good President, and he has passed a lot of terrible bills and acts. I don't give a rat's ass about the Katrina refugees unless it's about them leaving my city so the crime rates stop climbing. It's been years now.

I don't care about some fuel economy laws, I don't buy new cars, so why would it matter to me? And I don't care about drinking water security, as that should not be a federal issue.

Really? I'm what's wrong with it? No, the reason I don't care about them getting even more help is because a massive amount of them simply packed up and moved to Houston, and have been freeloading ever since. Those are the better ones too. The others go and shoot 15 year old kids in the head with a shotgun, then none of the others help and just stand there and watch the kid almost bleed to death. They rob donut shops and kill people over fifty bucks they're stealing from a Subway. Their kids stab other kids in the cafeteria in school, and they get in shoot outs with the cops while their kids are in the car.

Oh, by the way, those all happened within a month, and they were all done in the same area as all of them.

So no, I don't really care about them getting even more help from the government when they clearly don't want it to get out of their situation.

And what the hell are you even talking about with that first paragraph dude? What does that have to do with agents being able to investigate a massive amount of America's families if the bill passes as is?

seems we where talking about different things. i was talking about the act of continuing resolution that allows the government to spend some more money as the old budget dictated before the new budget is properly installed

He's the commander in chief of the US Military, and it is his call which aspects of the military are defunded with the government shutdown. So yes, even though the shutdown isn't his fault, he is the one who directed the shutdown to have this effect on OP.

well, can't we then compare this to terrorism? they ARE taking a figurative hostage. i know that this isn't really that but you must admit that this is just as stupid as the shutdown in 1995 and any "negotiation" (AKA the republicans demanding stuff) will have the same result as it did back then.

I don't get it, if you're gonna go infantry why the hell would you go in the army? I'd go into the Marines and be a bad ass 0311. I wanted to go into the Air Force Security Forces but I ended up doing Army MP because we get to patrol with the infantry too.

Yea they are. The army and marines recently just made almost all combat mos' open to women. Infantry included. And the military doesn't have a choice if the women are on a mission or some **** and they take fire what is the military gonna do? Tell the enemy to chill because "women aren't allowed to be in combat"?

Oh boo ******* hoo, you can't have your wedding. Cry me a ******* river. Marriage is a ******* joke. Pay for an overpriced wedding to marry some backstabbing cunt who will probably cheat on you in a couple years if they aren't already while you are away in the air force. You might as well take one of those airforce planes and crash it into a ******* mountain, because that death would be easier than the hellhole you will go through in marriage.

What a ******* joke, I mean really. Is the government supposed to bow down to your every whim so you can get ******* married? Everybody in the United States is being affected. Why do people pretend to give a **** on this site? **** marriage and "happy people", there is NO such thing you ignorant jackass and **** you for thumb whoring over your ****** WEDDING PLANS.

Yes his entire point was that the government shutdown is affecting him and only him. He really is a dick. It's not like he was trying to shed light on the fact that people in the military and civilians working for the government are getting pretty much ****** right now in a humorous way

I'm confused, where the **** does it say you can't leave base?
I'm Navy and all i had to do was ask my LCPO for a leave chit approval to go outside radius on weekend to see my lil sisters...
just to talk to your NCO you *******

No no, the government shutdown basically means all the rich powerful people aren't doing **** right now and still get paid, whereas the people that actually do work are doing that work OR are out of a job without any pay.