Do you avoid religious businesses? - Think Atheist2018-03-20T02:33:58Zhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/forum/topics/do-you-avoid-religious-businesses?commentId=1982180%3AComment%3A1259692&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noEconomics 101 is one of these…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2014-07-13:1982180:Comment:14748412014-07-13T14:55:37.229ZH3xxhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/H3xx
<p>Economics 101 is one of these mysterious ways, am I right?</p>
<p>Economics 101 is one of these mysterious ways, am I right?</p> I agree 100% on all points. P…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2014-07-12:1982180:Comment:14745742014-07-12T22:13:39.686ZTim Schockhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/TimSchock
I agree 100% on all points. Particularly that being intolerant of their proselytizing won't change their views.<br></br>
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I will say this though. People don't often know they're doing something wrong unless they're told. In the case of the gas pump for example, I would want to ensure that that person knows specifically that they were about to receive my money but because of that statement (telling me to leave) they won't. That direct correlation may hit home when it comes time to make…
I agree 100% on all points. Particularly that being intolerant of their proselytizing won't change their views.<br/>
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I will say this though. People don't often know they're doing something wrong unless they're told. In the case of the gas pump for example, I would want to ensure that that person knows specifically that they were about to receive my money but because of that statement (telling me to leave) they won't. That direct correlation may hit home when it comes time to make payroll.<br/>
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One of the things that keeps people in a religion is the fear of being an outcast. Being surrounded by statements like that only adds to that fear. If pointing out the financial negatives might make that business owner remove the message, I see it as an overall positive because it might make for a more generally secular environment. The business owner will hate me, but a Mennonite girl who is doubting her religion might benefit from one less reminder of her fear of leaving it behind. Personally, I think tolerance…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2014-07-12:1982180:Comment:14742432014-07-12T16:20:13.944ZUnseenhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/Unseen
<p>Personally, I think tolerance is the key. Christians are SUPPOSED to be tolerant, but often are not. Being intolerant of their proselytizing or witnessing won't make any of them think harder about atheism, it will simply reinforce their prejudices.</p>
<p>I had surgery in a Catholic hospital and other than a priest stopping by to ask if I was OK and if there was anything he could do for me, I wouldn't have even known I was in a hospital run by a Christian religion.</p>
<p>In fact, a huge…</p>
<p>Personally, I think tolerance is the key. Christians are SUPPOSED to be tolerant, but often are not. Being intolerant of their proselytizing or witnessing won't make any of them think harder about atheism, it will simply reinforce their prejudices.</p>
<p>I had surgery in a Catholic hospital and other than a priest stopping by to ask if I was OK and if there was anything he could do for me, I wouldn't have even known I was in a hospital run by a Christian religion.</p>
<p>In fact, a huge percentage of the hospitals in the US are associated with religions. At the same time, one wonders how often conflicts arise, such has whether to save a mother by terminating a pregnancy.</p> As a business owner myself, I…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2014-07-12:1982180:Comment:14740572014-07-12T11:46:32.833ZTim Schockhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/TimSchock
As a business owner myself, I wouldn't want people to avoid my business just because they disagree with my lack of belief. Which is why we don't advertise ourselves in such a way. It's certainly no big secret, but in business it's important that everyone feel welcome.<br />
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Why any business would go out of their way to do the opposite is beyond logic, but many do. I try to base my choices on quality of service but I often wonder; if they are missing this basic component of business skill, what else…
As a business owner myself, I wouldn't want people to avoid my business just because they disagree with my lack of belief. Which is why we don't advertise ourselves in such a way. It's certainly no big secret, but in business it's important that everyone feel welcome.<br />
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Why any business would go out of their way to do the opposite is beyond logic, but many do. I try to base my choices on quality of service but I often wonder; if they are missing this basic component of business skill, what else are they doing wrong?<br />
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Answering your questions directly:<br />
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1. I live in PA's Amish country. Many businesses advertise themselves as Christian. It would be impossible to avoid even if I wanted to. I am however, more likely to support a business that is outwardly non-religious.<br />
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2. I don't make it a priority. Though when I do hear of a business doing something particularly awful (i.e. Hobby Lobby, Conestoga Wood) I will remember it and avoid them. I know of no particular resource for better tracking, this could be a useful tool.<br />
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3. Gas station: I would make it a point to tell the owner that I disagree with his statement and am leaving to give the Sikhs down the street my money, as he requested.<br />
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Catholic vs. secular hospital: I know of no reason to believe the level of care is different at either type of facility. I have yet to meet an evangel…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2014-07-09:1982180:Comment:14734942014-07-09T18:22:20.582ZJPKhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/JPK
<p>I have yet to meet an evangelical who passes that test. On average the evangelicals are among the most racist and hateful people I have encountered. Never, ever work for one! I learned that lesson the hard way!</p>
<p>I have yet to meet an evangelical who passes that test. On average the evangelicals are among the most racist and hateful people I have encountered. Never, ever work for one! I learned that lesson the hard way!</p> Some religious people may cho…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2014-07-09:1982180:Comment:14732022014-07-09T16:56:59.601ZUnseenhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/Unseen
<p>Some religious people may choose not to do businesses with atheists, though they would seem to be ignoring the inclusiveness and nonjudgmentalism Jesus seemed to be promoting in the parable of The Good Samaritan.</p>
<p>Some religious people may choose not to do businesses with atheists, though they would seem to be ignoring the inclusiveness and nonjudgmentalism Jesus seemed to be promoting in the parable of The Good Samaritan.</p> Only if they are blatantly of…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2014-07-06:1982180:Comment:14725672014-07-06T01:09:15.048ZAdamhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/Adam751
<p>Only if they are blatantly offensive about it.</p>
<p>Only if they are blatantly offensive about it.</p> Depending on my mood, I would…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2014-07-05:1982180:Comment:14722892014-07-05T15:25:51.327Zɐuɐz ǝllǝıuɐphttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/DanielleZana
<p>Depending on my mood, I would walk away and never use the machine… or this would have been the last straw on the camel's back and knock shit out of the machine to make a point, but overall, I would refuse their services in the future.</p>
<p>Depending on my mood, I would walk away and never use the machine… or this would have been the last straw on the camel's back and knock shit out of the machine to make a point, but overall, I would refuse their services in the future.</p> To be fair, they might also b…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2014-07-05:1982180:Comment:14724612014-07-05T15:07:07.669ZUnseenhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/Unseen
<p>To be fair, they might also blame God with "It's God's will," "It's part of God's plan for me," "He works in mysterious ways."</p>
<p>To be fair, they might also blame God with "It's God's will," "It's part of God's plan for me," "He works in mysterious ways."</p> I most certainly wouldn't buy…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2014-07-05:1982180:Comment:14726012014-07-05T09:48:43.836ZBernardhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/BernardDoesntpublishsurname
<p>I most certainly wouldn't buy petroleum distillates from this establishment. Quite apart from the far right overtones, the message is in all caps and there shouldn't be a full stop there.</p>
<p>Genereally though I base my buying decisions on the behaviour of a business and its employees, rather than their beliefs. I am an atheist and a secularist, which means I think people should be free to hold the beliefs they hold, and to practice any religion along as they repect human rights. I…</p>
<p>I most certainly wouldn't buy petroleum distillates from this establishment. Quite apart from the far right overtones, the message is in all caps and there shouldn't be a full stop there.</p>
<p>Genereally though I base my buying decisions on the behaviour of a business and its employees, rather than their beliefs. I am an atheist and a secularist, which means I think people should be free to hold the beliefs they hold, and to practice any religion along as they repect human rights. I therefore differ from the position held by many religious establishements, who do not agree people should hold such freedoms.</p>
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