Psychic powers from rulebook - how does it work for Eldar?

Subject: Psychic powers from rulebook - how does it work for Eldar? Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:50 am

I'm not quite clear on how this works. In the Eldar FAQ it says that a Farseer, including Eldrad, can use the psychic disciplines in the rulebook, and for each psychic power purchased from codex:Eldar, generate a new power from Divinatipon or Telepathy.

Does that mean I can pay for Mind War (which is the cheapest power) and swap that for prescience? Effectively, I'm getting a better Guide (12" instead of 6" range) for less points.

Subject: Re: Psychic powers from rulebook - how does it work for Eldar? Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:56 am

spunkybass wrote:

I'm not quite clear on how this works. In the Eldar FAQ it says that a Farseer, including Eldrad, can use the psychic disciplines in the rulebook, and for each psychic power purchased from codex:Eldar, generate a new power from Divinatipon or Telepathy.

Does that mean I can pay for Mind War (which is the cheapest power) and swap that for prescience? Effectively, I'm getting a better Guide (12" instead of 6" range) for less points.

Yes, I believe that's the case. You still need to buy psychic power from your codex and swap it for power in the rulebook. Your idea is what exactly what I planned to do, buy cheap swap for better one

Subject: Re: Psychic powers from rulebook - how does it work for Eldar? Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:25 am

Yes you can. Benefit from fortune.

Although it will be a bit unfluffy... the whole reason they are in the webway is to hide their physic presence from he who always thirst... which is why in my allied list his abilities will be mainly for him and the enemy

Subject: Re: Psychic powers from rulebook - how does it work for Eldar? Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:07 pm

By that logic, Tau and Space Marine can benefit from Guide and Fortune too. Not all psychic powers or abilities benefit battle brothers, ie. IG orders & Sanguinary Priest FNP & Furious Charge which were FAQed to only affect units in their own codex. If it is specified "friendly units" and no FAQ corrects it, then yes battle brother benefits from them.

Depending on your interpretation of the rule, if you believe GW intended Fortune/Guide that states it only affects "Eldar unit" to be mean Dark Eldar units too, which in my view is almost as unlikely as my markerlights able to help Space Marines or Eldar.

Subject: Re: Psychic powers from rulebook - how does it work for Eldar? Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:28 pm

Sorry, If I seem to always try to contradict the possible ideas that arises, but I'm actually just helping by seeing whether it is valid to do so. If not, I'll still do my research but won't raise any possible mistakes as that would just be "to argue for the sake of arguing".

According to the rules, it would seem psychic powers could be overwatched, except when we look more closer.

Page 21, under Resolving Overwatch, last sentence before Overwatch Restrictions.

Paraphrasing: "Any shooting attack that does not use a Ballistic Skill- such as the Necron Monolith's portal of exile - cannot be 'fired' as a Snap Shot."

In my opinion, any psychic power that doesn't use BS cannot overwatch/snapshot, such auto-hits and template/blast powers. However, anything that does use BS can do so, ie. witchfire powers, smite, psychic shriek etc..

Subject: Re: Psychic powers from rulebook - how does it work for Eldar? Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:40 am

I'm not arguing the validity of Warlocks' Destructor , sorry if I didn't mention the exception to template shooting attacks.

But first and foremost, I doubt whether psychic powers can be used in for Overwatch. As of in the 6th ed. rulebook, all psychic powers are separated into types and each of them are "manifested" in a specific phase. As for witchfire powers, it is manifested on the psyker's shooting phase.

This then questions the fact whether such powers can be used outside of that phase, ie. during overwatch. As of now there's nothing that states shooting attacks can only be used in the shooting phase, likewise nothing that states witchfire powers are allowed or disallowed during overwatch.

I've also looked at other forums discussing this particular problem, they have not a reached proper conclusion as they are still much divided in opinion and a FAQ is needed dearly for this matter.

Subject: Re: Psychic powers from rulebook - how does it work for Eldar? Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:53 am

Back to Warlock Destructor on Overwatched, I think it's allowed as it's always on and psyker never needs to cast for it. In effect it's simply a shooting weapon, very much like shooty gifts Chaos Daemons get.

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