LessO2:It's stuff like this that makes Dorner's words about the police look more and more credible.

The thing that gets me with Dorner is that he was fired for "making false statements". And these guys get off scott free. S*hit, we have Portland cops who have posted Nazi tributes in a public park, sexually harassed co-workers and shot an unarmed, fleeing suspect in the back and NONE of them got fired. I guess Dorner's cardinal sin was badmouthing another cop.

While not all P.D.'s are head bashing storm troopers many seem to be following the feds lead.Our rights do not matter if they take even the smallest interest in us.Cue: tin foil hat bashers,stage right.

LessO2:It's stuff like this that makes Dorner's words about the police look more and more credible.

Not quite. Even a crazy clock is right sometimes. That doesn't mean it's logical, just that jumping to enough conclusions is accuracy by volume. The LAPD probably is a pile of shiat just like he claimed in his little diatribe. But you can't judge that by him because he's reaching that conclusion from Crazytown and is thus unreliable.

However, the fact that they lit up two different wrong trucks looking for him like a coupla real life Barney Fifes shows they're weak and womanly (in the pejorative viking sense that was actually illegal to use) and they probably shouldn't be police officers at all. Also just look at LA. Apparently it's covered in graffiti and the cops won't come to your house to arrest a drunken driver who has just crashed his truck into it. They will not hesitate to pull you over for not having two license plates, though. This is if Adam Carola is to be believed. He is not crazy and his other observations are sound.

That is the rub. The Crazy Man is correct that the department is awful. However that doesn't mean his reasoning to get there is sound. You can't take his word for it. However, look at the LAPD's actions and look at the hubris that lets an obviously unfair system with a huge bias towards the rich parade around the term "Justice System" as though they even know the meaning of the word. Then draw your own conclusions. Do they measure up or are they just another street gang?

doglover:LessO2: It's stuff like this that makes Dorner's words about the police look more and more credible.

Not quite. Even a crazy clock is right sometimes. That doesn't mean it's logical, just that jumping to enough conclusions is accuracy by volume. The LAPD probably is a pile of shiat just like he claimed in his little diatribe. But you can't judge that by him because he's reaching that conclusion from Crazytown and is thus unreliable.

Pretty much THIS. It is definitely easy for police to get off scott free with all kinds of crimes. That being said, killing the cops for it isn't the way to go about. Also, killing cop's families is absolutely never the way to go about it as well.

Klippoklondike:That being said, killing the cops for it isn't the way to go about.

Almost assuredly not, but we can't take it for granted based merely on a whack-job's manifesto. Again his logic is unreliable so even seemingly sensible conclusions are untrustworthy.

Every sensible country also has a death penalty. So while killing the police extra-judicially is probably a safe bet to be the wrong plan for various reasons ethical and historical I won't go into great detail on now, that doesn't mean "killing cops" is never the right way to go.

Look at the accusations coming out of India where a girl goes in to the cops to report one rape and is treated to a few more by the constables. That's a gallows no one would regret tossing the lever on if the accusations are true.

So again we see the unreliable crazy man's answers are landing in the potentially correct solution, much like a sufficient number of bullets from a machine gun will eventually hit a certain target on the range. However, much like an out of control machine gun, you'll want to avoid using a crazy person's answers because the risk of missing is much, much higher and you or others will be hurt. It's best to discard wholesale crazy assertions and start again from scratch.

2wolves:Besides the two thirds of the settlement cash I hope he got health care for life for any injuries related to him running into those batons time after time.

Probably not.

Don't forget the cops don't pay that money, the taxpayers do. So they're in the clear while Denver area law abiding citizens will see a tax increase or a service decrease for the alleged sins of the police.

This is what happens when healthcare is for profit and the government is held accountable for money. The government never has any money. That's your money and my money.

sweet-daddy-2:While not all P.D.'s are head bashing storm troopers many seem to be following the feds lead.Our rights do not matter if they take even the smallest interest in us.Cue: tin foil hat bashers,stage right.

I usually find the fbi to be better than the cops when it comes to blue line cover-ups.

OK, I had to read that three times to see what was happening here. There will be no FEDERAL charges, but the cops and the city lost the civil suit. Which makes more sense, and the last line of the article had it wrong.

Conspiracy to violate civil rights, as opposed to just beating the crap out of someone, can be a tough nut to prove. But the guy did win the beating case.

fusillade762:LessO2: It's stuff like this that makes Dorner's words about the police look more and more credible.

The thing that gets me with Dorner is that he was fired for "making false statements". And these guys get off scott free. S*hit, we have Portland cops who have posted Nazi tributes in a public park, sexually harassed co-workers and shot an unarmed, fleeing suspect in the back and NONE of them got fired. I guess Dorner's cardinal sin was badmouthing another cop.

Have you seen the report of the LAPD shooting two women because they were delivering newspapers in a "similar" blue truck as Dorner? Or the other guy shot 5 mins later driving a "similar" black truck. Mistaken identity is a biatch when the police are involved.

Klippoklondike:doglover: LessO2: It's stuff like this that makes Dorner's words about the police look more and more credible.

Not quite. Even a crazy clock is right sometimes. That doesn't mean it's logical, just that jumping to enough conclusions is accuracy by volume. The LAPD probably is a pile of shiat just like he claimed in his little diatribe. But you can't judge that by him because he's reaching that conclusion from Crazytown and is thus unreliable.

Pretty much THIS. It is definitely easy for police to get off scott free with all kinds of crimes. That being said, killing the cops for it isn't the way to go about. Also, killing cop's families is absolutely never the way to go about it as well.

Gotta have a sense of proportion about this.

The hell is isn't. That is exactly the kind of thing you do when genocide is the only answer left. You exterminate the bloodline, the DNA, the very genetics of evil.

We need guns to defend ourselves against the government, but this guy must have done something wrong, and if you haven't done anything wrong you have no reason not to let the government into the trunk of your car or read your private emails.

Klippoklondike:doglover: LessO2: It's stuff like this that makes Dorner's words about the police look more and more credible.

Pretty much THIS. It is definitely easy for police to get off scott free with all kinds of crimes. That being said, killing the cops for it isn't the way to go about. Also, killing cop's families is absolutely never the way to go about it as well.

I don't know, if this was my son or daughter laying in a hospital bed almost dead because of some rogue cops Dorner would look like the patron saint compared to what I would be doing

doglover:However, the fact that they lit up two different wrong trucks looking for him like a coupla real life Barney Fifes shows they're weak and womanly (in the pejorative viking sense that was actually illegal to use)

PacificaFitz:Klippoklondike: doglover: LessO2: It's stuff like this that makes Dorner's words about the police look more and more credible.

Pretty much THIS. It is definitely easy for police to get off scott free with all kinds of crimes. That being said, killing the cops for it isn't the way to go about. Also, killing cop's families is absolutely never the way to go about it as well.

I don't know, if this was my son or daughter laying in a hospital bed almost dead because of some rogue cops Dorner would look like the patron saint compared to what I would be doing

I didn't even realize he was black until I read that part, because he was so banged up. There's a problem with Judges in this country always taking the police officers' side, no matter what. Cops lie, swearing an oath doesn't mean a damn thing to some of them, evidence must be produced instead of this he said/she said judicial system.

When was the last time someone heard of one of these asshole cops actually getting in trouble? I don't mean suspended with pay or having to go to consoling, I mean that cops that violated the law they are sworn to uphold getting fired and/or jail time.

People should have to see the cost of always electing the guy who's "toughest on crime".

Or just randomly shooting the crap out of a truck like the LAPD recently. Everyone of those so-called officers belong in prison facing attempted murder but they'll get off scott free. On the bright side, if the victims survive they'll be millionaires very soon.