bindeweede wrote:Gary Mannion claimed that it was his "spirit team" who faked the activities in the seance which was filmed at the Banyan Retreat.

When referring to his "spirit team", he is actually blaming the so-called 'team' that work with him in the spirit world(as in 'Abraham' being one of them ...) :ro

bindeweede wrote:This is how three of them responded.

The three 'respondents' referred to here - are actually three of his [séance] circle leaders, those living beings who worked with him when he held his so-called séances - all of whom, up until presented with the incriminating video, it transpires were totally unsuspecting and literally in the dark as to his deceit. They are responding to Gary's claims of 'it's not me - it's the spirits wot dunnit!

" We have already given three of fraudulent medium Gary Mannion's circle leaders the opportunity to express their shock and anger on seeing the covertly filmed video of the "séance" he held at Banyan Retreat in May (PN July 2016).

He is claiming that his "spirit team" were responsible for entrancing him and then using his body to create the effects of genuine physical phenomena, including a full-form materialisation which the video shows to be a near-naked Mannion.

Psychic News has now spoken again to these circle leaders, who have sat with him regularly, two of them for years, after they have had the opportunity to watch Mannion's You Tube Q&A session in which he maintains his spirit team were in control throughout.
Do they accept this claim?

I think Gary's version of 'Abraham' speaking comes under the "UK posh" heading.

Gary's [current] website has thinned down to almost a skeleton - but it hasn't disappeared altogether, and it's not clear whether he is still peddling his wares in various forms in Australia, some parts of the UK, Norway, Sweden and Germany (or whether these scaled-down event details are actually leftovers from passed events).

Following the exposé in June 2016 of Mannion's fake seances, (https://thesearchforlifeafterdeath.com/ ... ing-fraud/) a new video has appeared - dated Dec 6, 2017 where those accusations and other issues are discussed. "Damage limitation exercise" is a phrase that comes to mind, but as usual, his sincerity simply oozes.

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a new video has appeared - dated Dec 6, 2017 where those accusations and other issues are discussed.

".... trance puppetry" ???

So, he is now beseeching people to take no notice of his "experimental" so-called Physical Mediumship - and to concentrate on the "real" stuff that he has been doing for 11 years (yes - it's been that long since he first came on UK-Skeptics!) ... i.e. psychic surgery, the medical professionals who have confirmed his "success rate" in this field, the research at the university, etc (which never happened, cos "they never came back to him" about it - "couldn't get an interested expert GP for the panel" ....)

As far as the PM (physical mediumship) is concerned - it's all a big frame-up, dontcha know .... "Other people are doing the same thing, but they're not being punished for it ..." LOL - he (Gary Mannion) even called out one of those (Warren Caylor) as a fraud(!) a couple of years back - but nobody listened to him ....

Hey folks, still time to book a session with Mannion..... "psychic surgery performed by a very talented medium, taking healing to the next level." (From Facebook.) Next level of what, who knows, but this interested me....

Can't find my favourite smiley for this subject ... (beating that poor horse with a stick). Where did it go? None of the others express the appropriate sentiment.

From Psychic News magazine - June 2018 edition:

Despite his exposure as a fraud, Mannion continues to work in a number of capacities within Spiritualism - mostly at the Wallacia Development Centre in Australia - running training courses and giving healing, as well as holding "physical séances", though these are seldom advertised as such.

Astonishingly, his latest attempt to recover from the exposure scandal has led to a poster about his mediumship appearing on Wallacia's Facebook page in which claims are made that his "spirit" workers have "established themselves as an excellent experimental team validated through scientific testing and meeting all criteria of the TRUTH Campaign via Spiritual National Union. The Spirit Team are now wishing to push forward and once again allow séances to be accessible to the public".

This is a blatant lie. The whole point of the TRUTH Campaign is that it involves independent assessment. Mediums do not assess themselves. The implication that the Spiritualists' National Union has given him its seal of approval is also false, and we hope the SNU will take suitable action. "

If Mannion has produced phenomena under the Campaign's stringent test conditions and has video footage of his "séances" to prove it, why has it not been made public, in the same way that Banyan Retreat has done with his fraudulent performance?

The answer, we understand, is that his "spirit team" is not yet ready! What do they have to hide, one wonders?

So here's our challenge to Mannion and all others who claim to be able to demonstrate physical phenomena for financial gain to groups of people outside of a home circle.

Contact Psychic News and we will arrange for you to demonstrate your powers in front of a panel of experienced assessors. The test séance will be filmed using non-invasive thermal imaging technology.

And we urge Spiritualists everywhere to put pressure on churches and centres to use only the services of physical mediums who are prepared to be tested and approved by independent observers.

Sorry for the confusion - I looked up Gary Mannion (knew nothing about him) and while reading some of the denunciations of him I found a reference to the "rationalwiki" site, which I hadn't come across before and seems quite interesting.

Sorry for the confusion - I looked up Gary Mannion (knew nothing about him) and while reading some of the denunciations of him I found a reference to the "rationalwiki" site, which I hadn't come across before and seems quite interesting.

Huge for the so-called "rationalwiki" site. Those guys are not skeptics; they are just a pack of murder of squawking crows.

These pages are controlled by a few self-appointed “skeptics” who serve as de facto censors for Wikipedia. They clothe their objections in the language of the narrowest possible understanding of science in order to inhibit open discussion of innovation in health care. As gatekeepers for the status quo, they refuse discourse with leading edge research scientists and clinicians or, for that matter, anyone with a different point of view. Fair-minded referees should be given the responsibility of monitoring these important areas.

...The Guerrilla Skeptics are well trained, highly motivated, have an ideological agenda, and operate in teams, contrary to Wikipedia rules... They have already seized control of many Wikipedia pages, deleted entries on subjects they disapprove of, and boosted the biographies of atheists.

Sorry for the confusion - I looked up Gary Mannion (knew nothing about him) and while reading some of the denunciations of him I found a reference to the "rationalwiki" site, which I hadn't come across before and seems quite interesting.

Yes - rationalwiki is a good resource - always used with circumspection of course. I use it like wikpedia - as a first port of call - but by no means definitive. If I'm reading an article and get the definite feeling that a the writer is dodgy - it often confirms that.