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Re: The False Prophet: who and why

Originally Posted by oscar

Hi ephraim,
I worship the phrophets 'Burnel and Cornwell'.
Tune into an album by the 'Stranglers' called 'The Raven' one day. Bear in mind the tracks were recorded in 1979. Such tracks as 'The Meninblack', 'Genetics' and 'Shah Shah a go go' were ahead of their time and profetic.
Phrophets come in all arena's even in punk rock.

Re: The False Prophet: who and why

Are we on the final countdown to Armageddon? Is this is the End, of which we have been forewarned? What date should I write Armageddon in for, in my diary?

It may be that you don't know the answers in which case you could say so. You might think the questions meaningless in which case you could say so. Or, of course, you might know the answers in which case you might answer them.

Re: The False Prophet: who and why

Originally Posted by ephraim

Yes-Yes- Don't ask me a date, Watch.
Ephraim aka Michael777

Religious commentators have been saying "Yes-Yes- Don't ask me a date, Watch" since, to my knowledge, the year 999. If I were to produce a list of, say, a couple of hundred people of the stature of John Wesley who also said "Yes-Yes- Don't ask me a date, Watch" through most of the 18th century, would you have a good reason why your "Yes-Yes- Don't ask me a date, Watch" is more informed than theirs? They could read the Book of Revelation alongside their newspapers as well. They all had their line-by-line interpretations into their modern day surroundings.

And all the millions of people they said "Yes-Yes- Don't ask me a date, Watch" to went to their graves without seeing Armageddon, every last one of them, despite all the hype and promises. The obvious recent example would be Garner Ted Armstrong. He preached two things - Armageddon and sending in a regular tenth of your income. He was a very rich millennial evangelist for the Lord.

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Re: The False Prophet: who and why

Originally Posted by spot

Religious commentators have been saying "Yes-Yes- Don't ask me a date, Watch" since, to my knowledge, the year 999. If I were to produce a list of, say, a couple of hundred people of the stature of John Wesley who also said "Yes-Yes- Don't ask me a date, Watch" through most of the 18th century, would you have a good reason why your "Yes-Yes- Don't ask me a date, Watch" is more informed than theirs? They could read the Book of Revelation alongside their newspapers as well. They all had their line-by-line interpretations into their modern day surroundings.

And all the millions of people they said "Yes-Yes- Don't ask me a date, Watch" to went to their graves without seeing Armageddon, every last one of them, despite all the hype and promises. The obvious recent example would be Garner Ted Armstrong. He preached two things - Armageddon and sending in a regular tenth of your income. He was a very rich millennial evangelist for the Lord.

Isn't it easy to sit back and accuse me of other peoples failings?
In conversations concerning me, I expect those talking with me to direct
their answers based on my words. I will not be gulity by association. Also,
I do not believe in worthless interpretations and I certainly do not defend
them. In that point, we can agree.
Revelation is a harbinger of Jesus's Second Coming. I am sure you have noticed
that Revelation is what I'm interpreting. When I say close I mean within months.
As far as the date, it is not for me to state. Watch! My mission is two-fold. To
identify who God is and identify the world's false religions. If you know these
truths, you have no need for any other. It is similar to a man knowing the
day of his death. It is unnecessary. BTW, I only know an area of time to
look, not the day. Jesus is God!!!
Ephraim

Re: The False Prophet: who and why

Thank you Ephraim. Please come back in - shall we say twelve? - months? is that a reasonable limit to your warning? I want to mock you unmercifully.

Or is twelve too few for you? Would you like to make it twenty four?

Maybe your confidence in your limits isn't up to an entire two years. Would you prefer to say five? Or how about an entire generation? Take twenty?

Whatever it is, come back when it's over so we can throw jibes at you. We've given you a place to write, the least you can do in repayment is to sit in the stocks when your scare-time's expired.

It has to be the end of the world, mind. A few nuclear bombs going off or countries being wiped off the map doesn't count, that's not what Armageddon's about. I want to see a very literal Satan bound in an observable pit before you get off this hook.

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Re: The False Prophet: who and why

Originally Posted by ephraim

The False Prophet: who and why

This letter is written to all Christians interested in Bible prophecy.

Originally, it was never meant to see the light of day. It was developed from a disagreement on Bible prophecy. I was resolved not to send it as I thought it was redundant. It seemed to be a repeat of the issues or a natural conclusion to the facts as stated in my previous letters. Finally, I decided that what I took for granted must be said. Most were either not convinced, or did not understand. Also, this subject matter lends support to my other writings on the end times...

I never know how to start these narratives. I do not comment on many topics, though I may have an opinion. I treat my words as Gold. I keep all my comments strictly on the end times and frequently asked questions. The main subject is always Satan and how he continues to twist the truth to his benefit...

Where prophecy is concerned, it always takes time for events to unfold and become easier to see. This was the case with my posts on prophecy . I never envisioned the six month truce happening between Israel and Hamas, brokered by Egypt. Therefore, events as I see them in my mind, are set back 6 months. A lot has happened though in those six months. The economy is a wreck, the stock market has dropped by nearly half, and oil has dropped to around 30 dollars. The only bright spot is cheaper gas prices, which also means that terrorists get less of our petrol dollars. It's really too bad that our economy is so reliant on oil from countries in the Middle East. These same people want to cut our throats. If we were dealing with any other group of people there would be very little problem, but Islam wants to dominate. It wants everyone in submission to it. Christianity and Islam are incompatible, neither one can accept the other. It has always been this way and will never change. When Islam feels threatened, it finds new and improved ways to subvert the masses. Ask yourself this. Why won't Saudi Arabia allow Christians? In the U.S. we call that discrimination, lacking tolerance or being politically incorrect. When they can't have what they want they use our own laws against us. If all else fails and sometimes not, they use the Jihad excuse. I have heard it said many times. This is just our natural response...

Back to the topic. I was going to keep this part to myself. I really saw no need to post it, but maybe I was wrong. You be the judge. This letter shall be in every place that has received previous posts by me. Therefore, all one has to do to get further explanation is to search out my screen name and all posts by me. This letter is a response to a question from a skeptic. Here we go...

First of all, I did not set any dates. Furthermore, I have never named the false prophet. I have never named him because I saw no reason to name him. I figured by naming the beast (Mahmoud Abbas) everyone could see who the false prophet was. Since according to you I have committed slander, let's take that one step further. I haven't named the false prophet until this very post. I will not keep silent anymore. Here he is.

The false prophet is Ismail Haniyeh. Most of you probably don't know who he is, so indulge me for a second. Ismail Haniyeh is the leader of Hamas in the Gaza Strip. He shared power with Abbas for a short time during 2006 in the Unity Government.

When Hamas chose not to honor the image of the beast, the international community cut off support to Abbas and the Palestinians. The image of the beast is three items; honoring all prior Palestinian agreements, recognizing Israel's right to exist and a renunciation of terror. Hamas enters the picture in Revelation 13:11. They are one horn of the beast, just as Abbas is also a horn. A horn is a king. Hamas exercised all the power of the first beast Abbas and caused them to worship the first beast (Abbas).

How did Haniyeh cause them to worship the first beast?

Because Hamas would not honor or abide by any prior Palestinian agreements and continued to sponsor terrorism, he caused the whole world to honor the image of the beast (which was Abbas and his government without Hamas). By not honoring or worshipping the image, Hamas caused the whole world to reject Hamas. This is just exactly the opposite of what Christians are taught. Most believe the false prophet is supposed to lead worship of some manlike image. This is absolutely wrong. The image is the Palestinian Government prior to the arrival of Hamas as a part in it. Hamas caused the world to honor the image. An Image defined by the international community.

Strong's Concordance translates the word worship as honor. I wouldn't necessarily say the translators made a mistake by using the word worship instead of honor, but surely it confused the situation. BTW, this was by design. We are not supposed to understand until right before the end. Remember, the Lord spoke in parables. Not all are supposed to know...Michael777aka Ephraim

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Re: The False Prophet: who and why

One of the biggest problems that Religion create is Sectism , Cultism , Denominations , And various other groups that deviate from the fundamentals and facrs of A found Religion and create these Egotistical leaders that claim to be Christ of A Messiah or even God himself without any Credentials . By that I Mean they have nothing that they do or say that would lead one to really believe that they are some kind of Savior . Even Though Each Scriptures Clearly Warns Against These Fake Christs And Messiah

Matthew 24;24 And I Quote ; For There Shall Arise False Christs . And False Prophets , And Shall Show Great Signs And Wonders ; Insomuch That , If It Were Possible . They Shall Deceive The Very Elect .

Mark 13;22 And I Quote ; For False Christs And False Prophets Shall Rise , And Shall Show Signs And Wonders To Seduce . If It Were Possible Even The Elect .

What Are The Dangers Of The Existence Of Fake God's And False Christs ? The danger in this is The Poor Souls then are misled by these Fake Gods And False Christs , And these Propheteers pretending to be Prophets . Then there are many thousands of Ministers across the country who declared God Spoke To Me And Told Me To Tell You This Or That . And Lure Sincere Souls Into A Trap That They Are Unable To Get Out Of Until The Day They Die In Blind Faith , Daring Not To Even Question Or Doubt The Fanatics .
Do The Jehovah's Witnesses Follow The Freemason Doctrine ?
The Jehovah's Witnesses , Their entire doctrine is based on False Prophecies Lies and Freemasonry , Most of the leaders during the 1920s and 1930s were either Freemasons or involved in Secret Societies , Both Charles T. Russell . The founder of The Jehovah's Witnesses as well as Joseph Rutherford , His successor belonged to a Secret Societies .

If you LQQk back on some of The Old Document . Such as The Magazine The Watchtower '' that was published by The Jehovah's Witnesses you will see Symbols and Emblem that shows Their Affiliation . ( Symbol Of The Knights Of Templar Also Symbol As Used On Their First Publications Of The Watchtower Called Zions Watch Tower ..... Joseph Franklin Rutherford ( 1869 A.D. - 1942 A.D. Also Charles T . Russell 1882-1916 A.D. )

Charles T . Russell organized his own Bible study class with a small group of associates . He elected himself Pastor and was called '' Pastor Russell . He was the First President of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society Of Pennsylvania . Becoming convinced of Jesus's coming . He began to preach and and spread his teaching and in 1879 A.D. He founded The Wactch Tower Journal . Russell who claimed to be The 7th Angel Mentioned In Revelation 10-7 , 11;15 , And 16;17 , However he died on October 31,1916 A.D. Before he die he made many predictions of the ...

End coming In 1874 A.D. , 1876A.D. 1914 A.D. ,1916 A.D. 1918A.D. 1972A.D. 1975A.D. All of which None as you can see , Never came true . He claimed that Jehovah gave him word of This End Each Time . He was simply saying his God who created the Heavens and Earth and Everything in it , Couldn't make up his mind when he wanted the world to end .

With all of The False Predictions that he made . His congregation had lost their faith because their doctrine was no longer making sense . So they fell apart . After a number of false Predictions . Joseph F. Rutherford , Being A Shrewd Businessman came up with this Million Man Scheme . And that is when they had their Millions Campaign In Washington D.C. As A Ploy To Re-Unite The Followers .

In 1918 A.D. The Jehovah's Witnesses Had A Millions Campaign with the release of A Book called '' Millions Now Living Will Never Die '' . That wasn't published until 1920 A,D, By Joseph F. Rutherford ( 1869 - 1942 A.D. ) . He came to power in 1917 A.D. After their former leader Charles T . Russell Died In 1882-1916 A.D. ) ..

The purpose of The Million Campaign '' . As it was called . Was to gather A Million Jehovahs Witnesses after their Prophecy Of The End Of The World Failed And Their Prophecy Than Abraham , Isaac , And Jacob Would Resurrect Into Human Form In 1925 A.D. And Live On Earth In A Mansion In San Diego California Called Beth Sarim , '' House Of Princes '' Which By They Way Never Happened .

The original leader , Charles T . Russell Died October 31 , 1916 A.D. ) .. As A Freemason he was Buried Under A Pyramid - Like Stone Which Bore The Symbol Of The Knights Of Templar Which Is A Crown With A Cross In It All Of The Leader From Those Days Were A Part Of Mystical Orders .

Half of The Jehovah's Witnessestoday don't even know the event that went on . They don't know about that mansion in San Diego California . They don't even know about The Millions Campaign or The Real History Of The Jehovah's Witnesses. Go Do Your Research . You Will Be Amazed At What You Will Find .

Charles Taze Russell Was Also Considered A Christ . Russell Claimed To Be The Seventh Angel Mentioned In Revelation . He Predicted The End Of The World Several Times ! 1874 A.D. 1876 A.D. 1914A.D. 1916 A.D. And 1918 A.D. Each Time Stating That Word Came To Him From The Creator Whom He Called Jehovah . He Was A '' Fake Christ ''

Now-A-Days In America There Are Many More '' False Teacher '' And '' False Leaders '' . Or What I Refer To As '' Fake Gods '' And False Christs '' Let Me Walk You Through The List .

You Have A Group Referred To As The Moonies , Headed By A Man Named Sun Myung Moon , Who Is A Oriental Who Declared Himself The Messiah . As Stated In An Article In '' Time '' Magazine Dated January 13 , 1992 A.D. Moon Set ( In Part ) .. His Followers Liken The Rise Of Korean Cleric Sun Myung Moon To The Coming Of The Messiah ... Sun Myung Moon Is An Evangelish , Who Claims That Jesus Appeared Before Him When He Was 16 Years Old And Told Him To '' Complete My Still Uncompleted Mission . ''
( Sun Myung Moon '' Fake Christ '' ) .

Then There Was A Religious Leader Name David Korresh Whose Birth Name Is Vernon Howell Korresh Whom The Media Claimed He Declared Himself Christ And Was Head Of The Davidian Church Where He And His Extended Family Lived Called Mount Carmel Located In Waco . Texas . ( David Korresh '' Fake Christ '' ) .

Then You Have A Man Named Hulon Mitchell Jr . Who Later Called Himself Yahweh Ben Yahweh Leader Of The Hebrew Israelites . He Also Declared Himself Christ And The Son Of God . According To The Book Entitled '' Yahweh Judges America '' On Page 81 , In The 7th Paragraph It States '' The Scripture Is Letting Us Know You Must LQQk Up And Observe The Characteristics Of The One That Is Coming As The True Messiah If You Will Open Your Eyes You Will Be Able To See The Right One Clearly ... Yahweh Ben Yahweh , The Son Of Yahweh '' . Here They Are Implying That Yahweh Ben Yahweh Is Christ Of The Son Of God . ( Yahweh Ben Yahweh '' Fake Christ '' ) .

Then You Have Ben Ammi Ben Israel Also Known As G . Parker , Declaring Himself Christ Who Is The Learder Of The Black Hebrews . And The List Goes On And On . ( Ben Ammi Ben Israel '' Fake Christ '' ) .

Then You Have People Like Elizabeth Clare Prophet , Who Has Authored Over 50 Books Within The Series '' The Lost Teaching Of Jesus , The Lost Years Of Jesus '' And Many More , Who Conduct Workshops And Retreats On Jesus's Life And Teachings . You Tell Me . Is She A False Teacher Or False Christ ( Elizabeth Chaire Prophet Fake God Or False Christ ) ..

Then You Have Maittreya The Christ , Most Of The Information About Him Has Come From A Man Named Benjamin Creme . According To '' Creme , Maitreya The Christ '' Descended In July 1977 A.D. And Took Up Residence In A Pakistanian Community In London ( Maittreya The Christ '' Fake God And False Christ '' ) .

And Then You Have Another False Ethiopian Messiah Who Is Called Haile Selassie . Haile Selassie Was Born In Harar, Ethiopia In 1892 A.D. Which Is The Northeastern Part Of Ethiopia . Rastafarians Say That Haile Selassie Is '' The Conquering Lion Of Judah '' King Of Kings '' or Lord Of Lords '' . They Claim That He Is The Person Being Talked About In Revelation 17;14 ( Haile Selassie '' Fake God And False Christ '' ) .

And Let's Not Forget About The Jehovah's Witnesses. As I Mentioned Earlier On In This E-Mail . Their Former Leader . Charles T . Russell Was Also Considered '' A Christ '' He Founded The Sect In The Years 1870 A.D. When He Was Dissatisfied With Christianitty As It Was , He Organized His First Bible Study Class . Six Years Later In 1876 A.D. He Elected Himself Pastor '' In 1879 A.D. He Sold Interest In A Clothing Firm And Began Printing '' The Watchtower '' A Semi-Monthly Publication . By 1884 A.D. His '' Zion's Watchtower And Bible Society '' Was Incorporated In Pittsburgh , Pennsylvania To Brooklyn , New York . Russell Claimed To Be The '' Seventh Angel '' Mentioned In The Book Of Revelation 10;7 , 11;15 , And 16;17 , ( Charles T . Russell '' A Fake Christ And False Angel ) ..

All Of Them Have You Believing In Religious Rhetoric And Claiming That They Are God . Christ The Messiah , Angelic Beings . However None Of Them Can Answer The Simple Question Of Why ? None Of Them Can Give You A Logical Reason About Why The World Is In Chaos . If They Were God They Would Be Able To Answer Simple Questions Like Why ? The Very Holy Book In Which You Claim You Live By Warns You Of These Kinds Of False Prophet And Christ , And I Quote ;

Matthew 24;24 ( In Modern Greek Script )
And In Time There Shall Rise Up Lying Messiah And False Prophet And Shall Have The Power To Do Great Sign And Miracles , So Great That If It Was All Possible They Would Be Able To Deceive The Chosen Ones .

Mark 13;22 ( In Modern Greek Script )
For False Christs And False Prophets Shall Rise And Shall Show Signs And Wonders To Seduce If It Were Possible Even The Very Chosen .

If Even Tells You How To Decipher If These Prophets Or Christs Are Of God In 1John 4;1

1John 4;1 ( In Modern Greek Script )
Beloved Do Not Believe Every Spirit But Test The Spirit To See Whether They Are Of Thehos ; Because Many False Prophets Are Gone Forth Into The World .

Fake God's And False Christs
By M.Z.York

You are correct as for as testing the message being presented by the messenger. Scripture tells us that if the message being given is different from the gospel of Jesus Christ as presented by the Apostle Paul it is to be considered false and left as unworthy.

The Scriptures you have referenced above tell us of the coming antichrist in the tribulation period and will be revealed or come on the scene only when the first seal is broken by Christ in Revelation Six. The Church Age is still in full swing and functioning as scripture tells us, as the Church Age is still in full swing we are only in Revelation Four, when Scripture is fulfilled as to the Church Age then the tribulation period will commence and the false prophet and the beast and the antichrist will come on the scene.