Given that his base has absolutely no care in the world about reality or any actual objective facts about the real world, and simply asserts basically everything out of thin air, I don't doubt that his base will still support him no matter what. That's exactly what terrifies me about them.

There's nothing I or anyone else could ever say or do to convince you otherwise because everything you believe in has absolutely no factual basis in reality with nothing to back it up, along with a myriad of logical fallacies and blind sophistry masquerading as some sort of arguments. It's just one big bag of reactionary emotionalism that filters out any rational thought.

So you're right, Alex Jones will likely never lose his base, but not because he happens to be right. They'll stay because they're just as psychotic and delusional as he is.

22 minutes ago, Ellapennella said:

Did Coopers green screen surprise you? It surprised me. I thought that was disgusting...not because they utilized a green screen but because they tried to trick people into thinking he was actually at the funeral. That's sick.

I honestly have no earthly idea what you're talking about. Please enlighten me.

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I honestly have no earthly idea what you're talking about. Please enlighten me.

It's a conspiracy theory that claims Anderson Cooper used a green screen to pretend he was at the funeral of Sandyhook students. It has been debunked several times but then again so has the flat earth and moon landing hoax conspricies.

You can't make people see reality. That is why the likes of Alex Jones and other conspiracy outlets that claim to be news sources (when it suits them) are so dangerous.

And why, even the Pope claimed that fake news was the greatest risk currently to our society. He wasn't talking about Trump stories, he was talking about the things that twist peoples morals and turn them into monsters. Like the Crisis actor stories that victimise people who are already grieving.

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It's a conspiracy theory that claims Anderson Cooper used a green screen to pretend he was at the funeral of Sandyhook students. It has been debunked several times but then again so has the flat earth and moon landing hoax conspricies.

You can't make people see reality. That is why the likes of Alex Jones and other conspiracy outlets that claim to be news sources (when it suits them) are so dangerous.

And why, even the Pope claimed that fake news was the greatest risk currently to our society. He wasn't talking about Trump stories, he was talking about the things that twist peoples morals and turn them into monsters. Like the Crisis actor stories that victimise people who are already grieving.

Thanks for letting me know, I had no clue.

10 minutes ago, Kismit said:

As much as the sandyhook conspiracy sickens me to my stomache. I don't think we can make blanket statements about Alex Jones' base.

I'm not entirely sure how you can be a 'reasonable' Alex Jones supporter, given that practically everything he says and does is absolute lunacy. But I guess in the off chance of some reasonable person simply being horrendously ill-informed, I'll happily concede.

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As much as the sandyhook conspiracy sickens me to my stomache. I don't think we can make blanket statements about Alex Jones' base.

I'm growing rather tired of people claiming how open minded they are and then making blanket statements about any other section of society. They justify it as everything but blatant bigotry, simply because someone has a different political opinion or religion.

I read both extreme left and right websites. It doesn't mean I support either side. I just want to know what the crazies are doing. I hate it because when I read them it seems as if I'm a supporter.

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I'm growing rather tired of people claiming how open minded they are and then making blanket statements about any other section of society. They justify it as everything but blatant bigotry, simply because someone has a different political opinion or religion.

I read both extreme left and right websites. It doesn't mean I support either side. I just want to know what the crazies are doing. I hate it because when I read them it seems as if I'm a supporter.

I'm just all for the indiviual. I can hold an individual accountable based on the merit of thier actions. But I can not guess at the motives behind individual behaivior and label it a group thing.

When it comes to politics, I am a left leaning individual, but I sometimes sway conservative. I feel both sides of the debate are needed for the integrity of the other one. Keeping your news options open is good. I personally don't think of infowars as news though, it is a conspiracy chanel.

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I'm growing rather tired of people claiming how open minded they are and then making blanket statements about any other section of society. They justify it as everything but blatant bigotry, simply because someone has a different political opinion or religion.

I read both extreme left and right websites. It doesn't mean I support either side. I just want to know what the crazies are doing. I hate it because when I read them it seems as if I'm a supporter.

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it"...... Aristotle

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It's a conspiracy theory that claims Anderson Cooper used a green screen to pretend he was at the funeral of Sandyhook students. It has been debunked several times but then again so has the flat earth and moon landing hoax conspricies.

You can't make people see reality. That is why the likes of Alex Jones and other conspiracy outlets that claim to be news sources (when it suits them) are so dangerous.

And why, even the Pope claimed that fake news was the greatest risk currently to our society. He wasn't talking about Trump stories, he was talking about the things that twist peoples morals and turn them into monsters. Like the Crisis actor stories that victimise people who are already grieving.

Wow you being from New Zealand and all I thought you would have a deeper knowledge of these subjects.

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As much as the sandyhook conspiracy sickens me to my stomache. I don't think we can make blanket statements about Alex Jones' base.

Nor should they about Jones himself over this. Of course they will, While you folks were tuning into to the second amendment haters, there were many people talking about the many inconsistencies, lies an outright strange things that happened during and after Sandy Hook. Now I'm not saying it didn't happen, but it most certainly wasn't as it seemed. Even had the classic false flag drill going on the same day, like with nearly every single other tragic event over the last 20 years. There are still many things that don't add up that main stream has you convinced you shouldn't look into, cause....children.

Also to the person you said he "harassed the parents" mmm no he didn't. He didn't try to contact any of them at all.

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Nor should they about Jones himself over this. Of course they will, While you folks were tuning into to the second amendment haters, there were many people talking about the many inconsistencies, lies an outright strange things that happened during and after Sandy Hook. Now I'm not saying it didn't happen, but it most certainly wasn't as it seemed. Even had the classic false flag drill going on the same day, like with nearly every single other tragic event over the last 20 years. There are still many things that don't add up that main stream has you convinced you shouldn't look into, cause....children.

Also to the person you said he "harassed the parents" mmm no he didn't. He didn't try to contact any of them at all.

"You folk?" Haven't I just recently pointed out in this thread how unhelpfull that kind of commentary is.

Someone is certainly using these things for political gain and profit. But I believe the answer is much simpler than the so called second amendment haters.

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Supporting the families and attacking the families are two different rhings Ella.

Nothing Anderson Cooper has done has lead to the victims of mass shootings families recieving death threats.

Alex Jones and the other conspiracy spinners who think it is ok to victimise these grieving families for thier political purposes need to be held accountable for the actual harm they cause.

My motto has never been by any means necessary for the end justifies the means....So... in my view of things... when people start questioning things ...like JFK or how we were lied to about things for agendas to flow in motion...for example when Then-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright’s quote, calmly asserting that U.S. policy objectives were worth the sacrifice of half a million Arab children, has been much quoted in the Arabic press. It’s also been cited in the United States in alternative commentary on the September 11 attacks (e.g., Alexander Cockburn,New York Press, 9/26/01).

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Nor should they about Jones himself over this. Of course they will, While you folks were tuning into to the second amendment haters, there were many people talking about the many inconsistencies, lies an outright strange things that happened during and after Sandy Hook. Now I'm not saying it didn't happen, but it most certainly wasn't as it seemed. Even had the classic false flag drill going on the same day, like with nearly every single other tragic event over the last 20 years. There are still many things that don't add up that main stream has you convinced you shouldn't look into, cause....children.

Also to the person you said he "harassed the parents" mmm no he didn't. He didn't try to contact any of them at all.

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As much as the sandyhook conspiracy sickens me to my stomache. I don't think we can make blanket statements about Alex Jones' base.

I don't feel comfortable talking about the sandy hook tragedy because of all that surrounds it. I don't blame Alex Jones for it tho. It seems like his first amendment was being trampled on. We dealt with the last administration here in the United States whereas they were trying to politically control our thoughts and what we were or should say. So many of us are still protective about that...because we recognize it when we see it happening.

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Yes he did - and not sure but I think he is fairly confident that he would win the case being brought against him -

Sandy Hook was a hideous crime and every parents nightmare - bless those little children and every family that suffered..

Alex Jones sets the record straight and gives his final statement on Sandy Hook.

I watched that just last night...actually I was unaware that this was even going on. I grew tired of Alex Jones after the election but I am thankful and will always remember that they supported the Nation in a great time of need ...that was pretty cool and I think they will do it again if ever a need be there.

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Yes, you folks who are ripping this guy apart with your msm led talking points, about something you most likely know very little about.

I can understand to a point of how people do not know of nor do they recognize the level of conspiracy that goes on around the globe within governments...but to refuse to learn about it I can't understand...maybe it's fear of looking into it?

A false flag for instance..I bet you that there's people who think this statement was made up by Alex Jones and Infowars...