I've tried to be positive on Pogba, but there comes a point where you need to see a bit of repayment for the faith shown. He's had good moments, but it's not enough. I'm not going to judge him by his price tag, but he isn't even matching what other players offer at the moment.

At the very least I wish he'd cut out the commercial crap until his form improves... but part of me wonders if that's why we paid so much for him... he sells shirts.

I'm sure he doesn't know yet why it doesn't work all the time but this is buying into the media criticism. They will destroy him simply because he is ours. He has been in large part responsible for our change of style and I feel we should give him space to develop. Ffs if you believe that bunch Kante became the best player in the world yesterday - once his competition was surgically removed.

My view of that match was the much vaunted Chelsea developed an affliction usually associated these days with us: they couldn't score. Even against 10 they couldn't score. It took a fluke from a defensive player to actually capitalise on the edge the ref gave them. Before that the gegenpressing had found them out.

I don't expect or necessarily want to hear him criticize pogba, but to hail him best player on the pitch makes him and pogba look fucking stupid ?

is Pogba's seeming invincibility perhaps to blame for his lack lustre displays ??

Incidentally I think Jose did something similar with Ibra when he went through that barren spell. SAF supported Ronnie also through his one trick pony period and if some on here have memories they know they bought into that criticism too.

Yesterday, like many, I felt cheated by an inconsistent refereeing decision and if I am honest I am fed up of paying good money for some inadequate but self-possessed moron to deprive me of a spectacle.

Who knows what Pogba or anyone else would have done if that match had been allowed to flow but at least it would have been a real rather than artificial result for the hacks to drool over as indicative of our decline. A pox on their papers.

We are playing some great stuff, have been since November onwards. We've won the league cup, we got knocked out of the FA cup away to Chelsea (even our best teams often lost there), we have the Europa Cup to focus on and our league position is hardly looking shite.

Give the boy a chance, he didn't have a great game against Chelsea, but what if he had? Would we have won? Would we fuck. They are better than us, plus we had 10 men, suspensions and injuries to contend with. Hardly the best scenario to judge a players worth.

I'm thoroughly enjoying watching United again, like it or not Pogba has had a big impact on that. Admittedly it could and should be bigger, but he's young. He needs time and patience._________________Nic... I dare say you could kick everyone's arse on Mastermind with United as your specialist subject.... Pedantic wank-wipe.

Mourinho's always split his dressing rooms. Privately and publicly. It's his thing and it seems to have worked out so far. Well, until his favourites at Chelsea turned on him...

As for Pogba, I won't repeat myself in this thread but I will say that the age excuse is pretty flimsy for a 23 year old who fancies himself as one of the best. I'm not criticising him for failing to be the new Zidane immediately, but I do expect him to be able to complete simple passes, retain possession and make the right decision a lot more than he's been doing recently - especially at £90m.

Today is Paul Pogba's birthday. So what better day to analyse his season so far...

Has he been an unmitigated disaster? No, far from it. Has he been an absolute superstar for us? No, not yet. The truth lies somewhere in between.

If you look at the stats - and the stats alone - he's right up there with the best central midfielders in the league. We're talking in terms of distance covered, completed passes, forward passes, interceptions and tackles.

Paul is a busy man on the field, more often than not. Where it REALLY matters though, is in terms of assists and goals, in that order. He has some...but not enough. The stats don't tell the whole story though.

There have been occasions, usually when United have been playing badly, where Pogba's demeanour is suspect, his willingness to keep on trying in doubt, his ability to take control left wanting.

His £89m price tag has the ABUs calling him a failure and for some United fans too it might be muddying the waters somewhat. It's a world record fee and it's hard to ignore. Pogba certainly hasn't lived up to it yet.

Leave it aside though, if we can, and Pogba's season so far can best be described as "above average" with "room for improvement".

He comes in from some unwarranted stick now and then - from us too, before you call us on it! - but he doesn't help himself with his sometimes headless chicken approach to matches.

Perhaps he's too keen to impress, too keen to live up to the price tag. Perhaps he just needs to settle down, get the simple things absolutely bang on and make all those passes, interceptions and tackles actually MEAN something.

We've no doubt that given time to get his head right he'll be fantastic for United. But so far...no. Just about good enough is as far as we can go.

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