Comments on: Even more clarity that Kyle Orton is The Man in Denverhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/even-more-clarity-that-kyle-orton-is-the-man-in-denver/
ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.comFri, 09 Dec 2016 15:19:17 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: bonniebengalhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/even-more-clarity-that-kyle-orton-is-the-man-in-denver/#comment-1176554
Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:43:17 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1176554Brady Quinn is HORRIBLE. There’s no way he gets the #2 spot.
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Thu, 04 Aug 2011 04:25:53 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1173226It’s funny that none of those guys were echoing what Fox was saying today after practice. It would’ve been pretty hard since they were flapping their lips BEFORE Fox said what he’s been saying all along. I wonder if PFT will run a story on that. Plus, Schefter doesn’t have the inside scoop in Denver like he used to… obviously.
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Thu, 04 Aug 2011 03:31:08 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1173136They’ve had plenty of time to look at Tebow. They obviously want to win now, and obviously have little loyalty to Orton, so with all those factors in place, the only reason not to start Tebow is because they don’t think Tebow is good enough.

Maybe there’s some kind of mysterious ploy to make Orton more tradeable here. But at this point I don’t see it. They could have moved him already, easily, if they wanted to.

It all comes down to them not wanting to move Orton, and not wanting to start Tebow. Sorry Tebow fans, that’s the picture. I look for a clean sweep and all-new QB lineup in Denver next season.

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Thu, 04 Aug 2011 01:45:33 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172923Rascal 98
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Thu, 04 Aug 2011 00:06:20 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172678Tim Tebow will be traded to the New England Patriots for a third or fourth round pick and will see limited time as a situational player. Ultimately, he will be groomed to replace Tom Brady when he retires.

Bill B. likes him (he and Urban Meyer are good friends) and will know how to use his unique skill set.

Let’s see if I turn out to be right.

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Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:22:32 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172568The clods that blindly holler “Tebow” are bible-thumping teabaggers. I hoped and prayed they would start him, since I am a Raider fan. Suffice it to say I am not a bible-thumping idiot, I mean, tea-bagger.The Broncos are in such disarray, they hired Elway so they could get away with “de-emphasizing” Tebow, and dumping him somehow.They are even talking Quinn up to soften the blow to the “believers”.What a bunch of maroons, in the immortal words of Bugs Bunny.Orton is the only qb they have that can play.The other two will get destroyed.I salivate for the first game against the Raiders, yeah!!
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Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:22:21 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172567Of course it will be orton. For one he is far better than tebow. Second of all cutler and the bears are coming to town this year denver has to show they got the better trade. Goodluck!!!
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Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:19:27 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172556Teblow belongs in Jacksonville. That’s the only town in America that loves him.
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Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:16:38 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172547This is a 5 win team no matter who the qb is
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Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:09:16 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172523Send Tebow to Miami or Seattle.
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Wed, 03 Aug 2011 22:43:42 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172456Okay… So Orton’s 11-17 record over the past two seasons in a Denver Bronco uniform mean nothing? Suddenly because there is a new coach in town, even though the Broncos failed to adequately upgrade their running game (i.e. Willis McGahee and his whole three thousand yard seasons in nine years in the NFL is not the answer) and their offensive line, Orton is finally going to figure out how to execute in the red zone and not choke in the last two minutes of the game. Give me a break. Orton is not the answer for the Broncos now, and he never will be the answer. Hell, I don’t care who we put in at quarterback at this point, as long as we don’t have to endure another year of great quarterback stats and no wins.
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Wed, 03 Aug 2011 22:26:54 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172399bhenryman says:
Aug 3, 2011 4:09 PM
If i was a denver fan i want to see what my first round pick at QB has now, orton is a good QB but hes not elite, not saying tebow is either but when you have luck coming out next year i want to know if tebow is the future give him a chance. worst case you have the worst record in the league and hit the lottery with luck lol

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Or best case, Orton takes you to the playoffs and then you can “see what you have with Tebow” in 2012.

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i guess u forgot denver tried that last year…

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Wed, 03 Aug 2011 22:25:20 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172394Awww. Gimmicks always get what is coming to them. Finally the Broncos are beginning to wise up.
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Wed, 03 Aug 2011 22:20:48 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172384I was looking forward to seeing what Tebow could do as the starter. Kyle Orton is definitely more polished right now, but as soon as the pressure is on late in the season, he starts looking like a human accordion on 3rd down conversions.
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Wed, 03 Aug 2011 22:03:33 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172325Denver’s 3rd Down Conversion Percentage was almost dead last, last year. Wasn’t the knock on Orton that he put up great stats on 1st and 2nd down but in crunch time he didn’t do much?
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Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:53:26 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172294I keep saying this. I’m sorry but one more time. Its 100% certain that Orton isn’t the long term solution. Why prolong the inevitable? Even if Tebow isn’t an NFL qb as everyone seems to think. (Except me, I believe he will be a winner.) So he plays & don’t succeed. You have your answer as to what to do next year, since you dont have it on your roster now. I have a bad feeling the Broncos are going to screw this up, and noone on this planet respects John Elway as much as I do, he is the reason I have been a Denver fan for over 20 yrs. I live in SC, & my 2nd team is Carolina Panthers, & Fox isn’t an offensive minded coach to begin with. I feel like they are making a mistake with this”Tebow thing”, but at the same time i respect Elway’s opinion of the Qb position, he was the greatest!
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Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:49:18 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172281Wow, now that we know that Kyle Orton is the chosen number one in Denver. What was the Dolphins’ back up plan to upgrade the quarterback position? I guess the Dolphins GM Ireland did not look past Orton. Now the Dolphins are stuck with Henne who is not an NFL level starting quarterback. He is Bill Parcells mistake………and so it goes with the Dolphins.
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Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:41:23 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172251broncotis3000 says: Aug 3, 2011 4:20 PM

Good move…..Let Orton play out his contract this season(whos knows what he can do with a real ground game)Let Tebow watch and contribute in different packages that utilize his strengths.

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Like the pre-game prayer, the half time inspirational song, the post-game prayer.

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Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:34:50 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172231You know who wins in all of this Brady Quinn again. Two high profile guys duke it out for leader of the team and he gets to set back and collect his million dollar check for holding a clip board. And from time to time show just a little bit of pro talent, if he were on an NFC West team he’d probably be a starter.
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Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:33:53 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172226My question is this.

Is there a reason Fox or Elway hasnt stated this directly yet?

The last actual quote from the head coach was,

“we are looking for a gamer not a practice player”

But my position is this, I dont care if the QB is mickey mouse and the head coach is donald duck, either win or get the hell out of town!

He looked pretty good compared to what Kyle Orton had done. He went 1-2, but he also nearly beat San Diego. Orton went 3-10.

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Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:30:36 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172217can we all agree they both suck?
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Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:21:17 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172194Denver is lucky to have Orton, Tebow is the one thats going to get traded………to Miami.
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Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:18:30 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172185hobartbaker says:
Aug 3, 2011 4:20 PM
Tebow was the most productive offensive player in the league the last 3 games of the season, from a FF perspective. Which pretty much means he WAS THE MOST PRODUCTIVE OFFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE. In the only three games he has started in the NFL
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i feel as though some perspective needs to be put in here. first, his passing stats were marginal. 217 yds per game over that stretch isnt that impressive considering he played houston and sd. 66 rushing yds per game is good for a qb but not good for your leading rusher. which he was. i know putting those together plus his total tds; 7 and only 3 ints will provide fantasy owners with a stud at one position. however that does not make him a similarly valuable player on his real life team.

it actually takes away from the team. the broncos cant afford to have their leading rusher put only 66 yards on the ground. the game agains the raiders, the next best was 20 yards, agains the texans the next best was 42, and against the chargers the next best was 41 (35 on one run). i understand he may keep defenses guessing but no team is getting to the playofss with 217 passing yards per game and 66 on the ground from your leading rusher. not to mention he went 1-2 against those 3 non playoff teams.

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Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:11:09 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172165I’m a Tebow fan, but more than anything I just want this situation settled. It’s not helping anyone to continue to have to hash this out. Figure it out and let’s play some football!!!
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Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:01:09 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172130sportswannabe says: Aug 3, 2011 4:50 PM

Tebow could be an out and out bust, but his ceiling is higher right now, and “he looked pretty good last year in the three starts he got.”

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Classic example of delusional thinking.

“He looked pretty good” compared to what/who…Brady Quinn?

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Wed, 03 Aug 2011 20:54:50 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172106By the time he learns how to pass at an NFL level, assuming that he ever will, how much of his athleticism will he have left? You put in years of coaching, effectively handicapped by starting off with a flawed project, and what do you end up with? A QB with basic passing skills but great desire to win and the question “what was the point again?”.
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Wed, 03 Aug 2011 20:52:38 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172100Remember, John Fox literally cried at the press conference when Jake Delhomme was cut by the Panthers. He has no clue how to evaluate or develop a QB.

Run, run, pass, punt – get used to that Denver because that’s the Fox philosophy. Orton will be a good fit for Fox because he doesn’t expect the QB to win the game – just not to lose it.

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Wed, 03 Aug 2011 20:50:18 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172088This is just dumb. Orton is what he is. If you’re cool with 9 wins being your absolute ceiling, congrats. Tebow could be an out and out bust, but his ceiling is higher right now, and he looked pretty good last year in the three starts he got.
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Wed, 03 Aug 2011 20:48:23 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144895#comment-1172080Can we all agree to stop saying all-in, please? Poker is so 2005.
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