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Theories: Who and Why?

Please post your theories here. We can discuss them on the normal discussion threads.

"WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"
A quote spray painted on the wall by search
and rescue workers, Team 5, at the OKC Bombing site 4-19-1995.

I go back and forth. Part of me thinks a kid did this, and then possibly a parent of the kid came to make sure the two girls where dead so that his kid would not get in trouble. Problem with that is not very much time for that to happen.

It doesnt make sense to me that in such a small town, a stranger would be parked at an angle on the road and draw more attention to themselves if they had just committed a crime. If someone was there committing a crime, such as a drug deal etc they would try to basically stay hidden not sitting in the middle of the road. What throws me is several witness saw this man (do not know if that means 2,3,4, or 5?) then he had to be there for a period of time, unless we believe that many people drove down this road one right after the other and saw him. If that is the case then you would think there was pretty much constant traffic and someone would of seen him shoot the girls.

GRACE: Well, have they determined the angle of the trajectory, the angle of the bullet? Because if that were true, someone shot from above, you could clearly see the angle entry, exit at the lower back.

JESSICA BROWN: We do have a good idea of the trajectory at this point in time, but I can`t get into further details with you. But we`re looking at everything. We`re not taking anything lightly here.

I think these girls were shot by someone standing in the back of a pickup. I think the truck full of boys with guns is too hard to ignore in this case.

I think these girls were shot by someone standing in the back of a pickup. I think the truck full of boys with guns is too hard to ignore in this case.

I think this can be ruled out by now, after two years if a number of people had been involved someone would have talked. Random act by a maximum of two people, most likely not locals, is my favorite theory. Without any witnesses such murders are almost impossible to solve since there is no coherent motive. I cannot begin to comprehend what sort of deranged impulse would drive anyone to commit such a horrendous act and be able to live with it, but it happens.

I think it has something to do with the little dog. Perhaps as they were walking some idiot pointed a gun at the dog and taunted the girls. They went ballastic, he stops and a physical confrontation gets out of hand.

I am believing more and more it was a random act based on the opportunity and the desire of the killer or killers. What the motive may be imo will be senseless when known and if this crime is ever solved.

I am leaning in this direction because if the perps are known to the victims LE are much quicker to track that link down. When there is no attachment at all to the victims then it is a much harder case for LE to solve trying to link who the killer or killers could be. When the perp is unknown in the area and only composite sketches can be made and true identity remaining unknown it is like looking for a needle in a haystack.

I know there are no assurances at all that evil can't pierce a quiet rural community right out of the blue shattering their safety zone. Senseless crime can happen anywhere at anytime for any reason or for no reason at all.

I think that is why OSBI has widened their search nationally. They are pulling out all the stops in order to find this man. IMO, they know how dangerous he is and he is still out there and could be anywhere by now.

imoo

"Pardon Our Noise, It's the Sound of Freedom"USMC New River Air Station,Jacksonville, North Carolina

This case is haunting. I now believe that teens have committed this horrendous crime. My reasoning is simple.

I am leaning toward your simple theory. It makes so much more sense,
especially now with the road blocks. I also think it is now a familar local. Not even a known mean person per say but maybe just someone that just acts on impulse or not mature enough to handle emotions of anger or whatever.

"This isn't who they are. It is only what happened to them."
Jaycee Dugard’.

I am leaning toward your simple theory. It makes so much more sense,
especially now with the road blocks. I also think it is now a familar local. Not even a known mean person per say but maybe just someone that just acts on impulse or not mature enough to handle emotions of anger or whatever.

I am also feeling very strongly, that this may be the case. It's just a gut feeling, something I have had from the beginning, and I was trying to say that back when I stated that the answer may just be right under our noses and we cant or REFUSE to see it!

I am beginning to feel like others are feeling this way too, since almost every other avenue has practically been exhausted.

In Memory of Skyla and Taylor, BFF."Keep the Faith!"As we take this journey together, may we all find peace at the end of the day.

So if something like what I said happened to the girls how would a person be charged? It could go so many ways.. Accidental Murder is there such a thing? If they didn't premeditate to really murder them ..Oh I just don't know what to think anymore.
It is almost like getting out the crazy eight ball & asking it !!!!

"This isn't who they are. It is only what happened to them."
Jaycee Dugard’.

So if something like what I said happened to the girls how would a person be charged? It could go so many ways.. Accidental Murder is there such a thing? If they didn't premeditate to really murder them ..Oh I just don't know what to think anymore.
It is almost like getting out the crazy eight ball & asking it !!!!

If it indeed were "accidental murder", I would call it involuntary or voluntary manslaughter. But in my opinion, 13 shots just doesn't seem accidental.

Believe me, you're not alone, GS... I have so many possibilities and thoughts running around my head about this it's crazy (or maybe I'm crazy, I don't know lol)

No not really & the Girl Population seems so small. I see girls being vengeful in a different manor. Beating up Or nasty remarks on web pages. Guns seem more male to me.

You know I was talking to my hubby about this & I really don't want to admit it but the reason I will is for our girls, I will tell a story on myself.

When I first started going to the gun range about 5 yrs ago or so He was teaching me about guns..shooting ect. I was handed a 9mm auto.. he wanted me learn how to load it ect. Thank God we were alone at the indoor range. I had to put the clip in the end of the pistol grip then turn a little button then I would aim & fire. Well It had a "hair trigger & I had my finger on the trigger... you should not do that until you are ready to fire.. well I scared myself to death I shot the roof of the range before I knew what happen. I looked at him he said I looked like I had seen a ghost or something. I was so scared of that gun I put it down & did not pick up another gun for 2 years. I mean it went off twice bang bang so fast so scarey. There is so much power there and you do not realize it.
I could've killed us it would have been that easy.
I am just saying maybe the murders did not start out to be murders maybe they were being bullied or threatened & something happened.
I don't know.. I am just typing and thinking at the same time. LOL

"This isn't who they are. It is only what happened to them."
Jaycee Dugard’.

No not really & the Girl Population seems so small. I see girls being vengeful in a different manor. Beating up Or nasty remarks on web pages. Guns seem more male to me.

You know I was talking to my hubby about this & I really don't want to admit it but the reason I will is for our girls, I will tell a story on myself.

When I first started going to the gun range about 5 yrs ago or so He was teaching me about guns..shooting ect. I was handed a 9mm auto.. he wanted me learn how to load it ect. Thank God we were alone at the indoor range. I had to put the clip in the end of the pistol grip then turn a little button then I would aim & fire. Well It had a "hair trigger & I had my finger on the trigger... you should not do that until you are ready to fire.. well I scared myself to death I shot the roof of the range before I knew what happen. I looked at him he said I looked like I had seen a ghost or something. I was so scared of that gun I put it down & did not pick up another gun for 2 years. I mean it went off twice bang bang so fast so scarey. There is so much power there and you do not realize it.
I could've killed us it would have been that easy.
I am just saying maybe the murders did not start out to be murders maybe they were being bullied or threatened & something happened.
I don't know.. I am just typing and thinking at the same time. LOL