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Seriously, I can keep going. It was the defining characteristic of Obama's first term: attempt after attempt to accommodate, negotiate, and work with Republicans only to be rebuffed time and time again, even when he was giving them exactly what they asked for.

He helped organize a bipartisan group of Senators to develop a solution both parties could agree with. This is not my opinion as I quoted Obama speaking favorably about the effort.

This is evidence of Obama trying to work with Republicans to develop bipartisan legislation
Both parties could agree with? As it failed, your side will claim he tried. His whole administration was set up to fail because he could not compromise in meaningful ways.

Clinton is never characterized that way, he made major compromises with republicans to have a lasting legacy of great economic growth.

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Yeah, every single on of those items was substantiated and undercut your stupid point.

You say "lol" because you literally have nothing else.

No, you've failed in proving the point as you usually do. Obama was and is one of he most partisan presidents we've had. Your first clue would be his failed presidency. Now we have Trump and I hope he doesn't compromise at all.

No, I did. This is the game you play. It's old and tired and not convincing.

One would think with all this compromising Obama did you could show at least one compromise that was carried through. Clinton had many compromises that could be shown. Another clue how your president was a failure.

One would think with all this compromising Obama did you could show at least one compromise that was carried through. Clinton had many compromises that could be shown. Another clue how your president was a failure.

Yeah, that's moving the goal posts. Obama offered endless compromises, as I and others have shown, but the Republicans decided to refuse to work with him. Turned out to benefit them politically, but it is totally incorrect to assert that Obama didn't reach out to them.

As for accepted compromises:

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President Obama announced a tentative deal with Congressional Republicans on Monday to extend the Bush-era tax cuts at all income levels for two years as part of a package that would also keep benefits flowing to the long-term unemployed, cut payroll taxes for all workers for a year and take other steps to bolster the economy.

Dumb Trump was warned not the appoint Flynn, but dumb Trump appointed Flynn anyway despite the warnings and the fact that Flynn was fired by Obama. Goes to show that Trump is too dumb to be president.

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Senate Intel Committee Subpoenas Michael Flynn in Russia Probe

President Donald Trump's former national security adviser, retired Gen. Michael Flynn, was subpoenaed by the Senate Intelligence Committee on Wednesday.

The committee, led by Sens. Richard Burr, R-North Carolina, and Mark Warner, D-Virginia, said it requested documents that members believe to be relevant to its investigation into alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election.

Lol
Long enough to see Obama was a partisan hack and you and others thinking he was some great compromiser is just more fantasy land!

Speaking of hacking, whatever happened to dumb Trump's evidence that Obama spied on him? Was Trump's evidence abducted by aliens? After all, Trump is proving that he's spaced-out with each passing day.

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Post-Comey Firing, Trump Impeachment Is 'What the Country and the World Need'

Speaking of hacking, whatever happened to dumb Trump's evidence that Obama spied on him? Was Trump's evidence abducted by aliens? After all, Trump is proving that he's spaced-out with each passing day.

Doesn't matter. Now a significant proportion of the US electorate think Obama did tap his phones and another large portion aren't sure but aren't that bothered that the claims are baseless.

The accusations did their job. Hardly anyone remembers that Jeff Sessions perjured himself (and not all of them actually care). Trump's failure to progress many of his key policies has been kept off the front page and Trump has lost little or no support as a result of the accusations.

Do you think those missiles that North Korea tows on the parade route are real?

Yes. Do you think they are CGI? (Real what is another question)

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Doesn't matter. Now a significant proportion of the US electorate think Obama did tap his phones and another large portion aren't sure but aren't that bothered that the claims are baseless.

The accusations did their job. Hardly anyone remembers that Jeff Sessions perjured himself (and not all of them actually care). Trump's failure to progress many of his key policies has been kept off the front page and Trump has lost little or no support as a result of the accusations.

I don't think this is entirelly fair considering Trump's opinion polls. There's an idiot core of supporters who won't shift for any reason, but other than that, Trump doesn't have much support among the populace. GOP politicians are another matter. To make them flinch, their own prospects need to be threatened. I believe that's coming.

"If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. " Karl Popper, The Open Society and Its Enemies Vol. 1

Why not, most people don't seem to be that bothered. For sure Trump is gradually ebbing support but there's no indication of large-scale public outrage.

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There's an idiot core of supporters who won't shift for any reason, but other than that, Trump doesn't have much support among the populace. GOP politicians are another matter. To make them flinch, their own prospects need to be threatened. I believe that's coming.

Trump is still at 84% among Republicans and at 40% (and rising) among independents (which is his highest among them since January)

What is unusual is that he has almost no support from the Democratic Party supporters. IMO that's more indicative of the partisanship at the heart of US politics rather than it being specifically a comment on his (lack of) performance.

Trump is burning bridges/ships , whatever metaphor you want.
Until there is a Republican contender sufficiently removed from Trump (i.e. not Pence until he grows a spine), there is no place for the party to shift TO.
So don't expect any wavering of support for the administration until Trump starts purging where it hurts the GOP personally.

__________________"eventually we will get something done."
- Donald J. Trump

Aggregated polls show his job approval at 42 % approve, 53 % disapprove, with a negative trend, and favorability at 41.8 favorable, 54.2 unfavorable, also with a negative trend.

Originally Posted by The Don

What is unusual is that he has almost no support from the Democratic Party supporters. IMO that's more indicative of the partisanship at the heart of US politics rather than it being specifically a comment on his (lack of) performance.

It's likely both. Trump's policies should be anathema for any DEM voter.

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But beyond that it’s OK if the tax plan increases the deficit?
It is OK, because it won’t increase it for long. You may have two years where you’ll…you understand the expression “prime the pump”?Yes.
We have to prime the pump.It’s very Keynesian.
We’re the highest-taxed nation in the world. Have you heard that expression before, for this particular type of an event? Priming the pump? Yeah, have you heard it?Yes.
Have you heard that expression used before? Because I haven’t heard it. I mean, I just…I came up with it a couple of days ago and I thought it was good. It’s what you have to do.

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We have to humiliate the enemy. And if we don’t humiliate them, we’re going to have our kids continuing to go and fight for ISIS. We have kids leaving this country because they’re so damned good at the internet, ISIS, they’re better at the internet than Google. You know it’s a smart enemy. Believe it or not. And these kids are going over and fighting.

He talks like the clueless old person at the office who no one wants to see unemployed, or a cargo cultist. It's like he's using terms he's heard others talk about, without knowing what they mean.

Here's one clue of many of just how dumb Trump is. Trump is so dumb that he allowed the Russians to dupe him on photos in the White House, which made Trump a laughing stock in the eyes of the whole world to see. What made it hilarious is that Trump blocked the American media while allowing the Russian media to come in and do its dirty work. To sum that up, Trump has proven once again that he is unfit as president.

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White House furious after being trolled with Russia Oval Office photos

Washington (CNN)The White House did not anticipate that the Russian government would allow its state news agency to post photographs of an Oval Office meeting between President Donald Trump, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Russia's ambassador to the US, a White House official said.

Photos of Wednesday's meeting, taken by a Russian state news media photographer one day after Trump fired FBI Director James Comey amid questions about possible Trump campaign collusion with Moscow, were ultimately posted by Russia's news agency, TASS.

Yeah, that's moving the goal posts. Obama offered endless compromises, as I and others have shown, but the Republicans decided to refuse to work with him. Turned out to benefit them politically, but it is totally incorrect to assert that Obama didn't reach out to them.

Usually a president that is known for compromising has several major legislative accomplishments. Your first clue is that Obama has one, that you posted. He is not known for being a president that compromised. Why you "feel" this need to change that is bazar.

What is unusual is that he has almost no support from the Democratic Party supporters. IMO that's more indicative of the partisanship at the heart of US politics rather than it being specifically a comment on his (lack of) performance.

And let's not forget the TDS that plays into that. The left has gone bat **** crazy. Its fun to watch!

Usually a president that is known for compromising has several major legislative accomplishments. Your first clue is that Obama has one, that you posted. He is not known for being a president that compromised.

You might want to read up on the history of Obamas presidency, your recollection appears to be faulty.

Usually whichever party is in opposition to government can find common ground on some issues and make progress on legislation that benefits the country as a whole. The GOP during Obamas tenure were obstructionist in the extreme, going so far as complete volte face on several issues, like healthcare, as soon as it was Obama proposing reforms.

Usually a president that is known for compromising has several major legislative accomplishments.

Usually the President doesn't have a senate whose sole objective is to stop him achieving anything and yet Obama managed to turn the economy around, repair US relations with many key allies, get ACA passed and stopped torture to name but a few things.

You might want to read up on the history of Obamas presidency, your recollection appears to be faulty.

Usually whichever party is in opposition to government can find common ground on some issues and make progress on legislation that benefits the country as a whole. The GOP during Obamas tenure were obstructionist in the extreme, going so far as complete volte face on several issues, like healthcare, as soon as it was Obama proposing reforms.

So the republicans were different in Clintons two terms, he got impeached for crying out loud! Try again!