100% agree with this. I was just riding over the summer with a guy who bought a brand new RZR XP 1000, and I think he said he paid 14000 for it. I would say the the Talon needs to be able to be bought somewhere in that range, otherwise there will be too many people still buying rzrs.

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100% agree with this. I was just riding over the summer with a guy who bought a brand new RZR XP 1000, and I think he said he paid 14000 for it. I would say the the Talon needs to be able to be bought somewhere in that range, otherwise there will be too many people still buying rzrs.

I would think a 60" would need to be around 15-16 if they want to be competitive and try to start taking market share. People are more worried about pinching pennies and not getting what they dont think they need... heck look how many of us bought the pioneer 700 and sold it after 6 months, We were trying to be cheap. Honda is also so late to the game with the sport that Canam and Polaris have a huge following and have prices in that range. Enough people try to save money on base models, no power steering, etc. For 18k and a 60" SXS, it better be something special. This is assuming its 60" which would play into the Canam Sport and Rzr 900 market (which some trails are limited to 60" so i would assume they would pick this dimension)

That's the way I see it too. The biggest problem with Honda SXS is people fix them until they break. Case in point I spent probably $6k in addons for my 2016 P1K thinking that's what I needed to run in mountains. Turns out, the lift kit, big tires, etc. all just proved too much for the parts I didn't upgrade (axles, clutch, etc.) Ditched the big tires and lift and no issues, also 2018 P1K LE added only roof and windshield, going on 3K miles no issues whatsoever and go everywhere I did with the other machine with all the extra crap, I thought I would need. Honda puts a lot of thought into these machines, save for a few issues since corrected every thing else is human assembled error.

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That's the way I see it too. The biggest problem with Honda SXS is people fix them until they break. Case in point I spent probably $6k in addons for my 2016 P1K thinking that's what I needed to run in mountains. Turns out, the lift kit, big tires, etc. all just proved too much for the parts I didn't upgrade (axles, clutch, etc.) Ditched the big tires and lift and no issues, also 2018 P1K LE added only roof and windshield, going on 3K miles no issues whatsoever and go everywhere I did with the other machine with all the extra crap, I thought I would need. Honda puts a lot of thought into these machines, save for a few issues since corrected every thing else is human assembled error.

While I haven't had a ton of issues, I have defiantly learned that its better to buy a machines thats meant for how you want to ride, then buy a machine and try to modify it to how you want to ride. My next ride will be something thats made for my riding style and hopefully just need the basic add ones (roof, windshield, etc).

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I would think a 60" would need to be around 15-16 if they want to be competitive and try to start taking market share. People are more worried about pinching pennies and not getting what they dont think they need... heck look how many of us bought the pioneer 700 and sold it after 6 months, We were trying to be cheap. Honda is also so late to the game with the sport that Canam and Polaris have a huge following and have prices in that range. Enough people try to save money on base models, no power steering, etc. For 18k and a 60" SXS, it better be something special. This is assuming its 60" which would play into the Canam Sport and Rzr 900 market (which some trails are limited to 60" so i would assume they would pick this dimension)

What kills me is the people who try to cheap out no EPS etc. But then you see them with $600 stereo, $400 Yeti cooler in back, and $300 led whips that add zero benefit to the machine handling etc. Cracks me up.

In my defense, I was left unsupervised

What kills me is the people who try to cheap out no EPS etc. But then you see them with $600 stereo, $400 Yeti cooler in back, and $300 led whips that add zero benefit to the machine handling etc. Cracks me up.

Hey hey, that was me, except the 100 radio, 50 ozark trail, and cheap o light bar. But I had never had power steering until my 1000 so didnt know what I was missing. Now I wouldnt get something without it.

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Hey hey, that was me, except the 100 radio, 50 ozark trail, and cheap o light bar. But I had never had power steering until my 1000 so didnt know what I was missing. Now I wouldnt get something without it.

I still think the Talon will be at least $21,600 MSRP and wouldn't be shocked if it listed for $23k. That doesn't mean it will be the street price. For example just screenshot this 2018 LE lists for $21,899 but can be bought for under $17,700 that's over $3200 off MSRP so I wouldn't get discouraged by list prices, just got to do your due diligence to buy a machine at the right price.

At the same notion, here is what the Talon is up against best guess wise, the RZR Turbo 1000 with 168hp and 18" of suspension, while not the pinnacle of the sport models, a respectable unit at least spec and price wise up front. The real kicker is what's the total cost of ownership over 36 months and 5000 miles for a Honda Talon vs. a Polaris RZR?

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I still think the Talon will be at least $21,600 MSRP and wouldn't be shocked if it listed for $23k. That doesn't mean it will be the street price. For example just screenshot this 2018 LE lists for $21,899 but can be bought for under $17,700 that's over $3200 off MSRP so I wouldn't get discouraged by list prices, just got to do your due diligence to buy a machine at the right price.

At the same notion, here is what the Talon is up against best guess wise, the RZR Turbo 1000 with 168hp and 18" of suspension, while not the pinnacle of the sport models, a respectable unit at least spec and price wise up front. The real kicker is what's the total cost of ownership over 36 months and 5000 miles for a Honda Talon vs. a Polaris RZR?

That’s not what Talon will be compared to being the turbo model. You’re talking 60 more horse from upper model. That’s what I’m worried about as well is price point. I wouldn’t personally compare the RZR in any level. A more accurate comparison would be the Yamaha. Then you have a couple closer in power and dependability. I think for most those are the two it’ll boil down to if they don’t need maximum power, shiny decals and a parking spot inside the dealership.

Ancient Guru

That’s not what Talon will be compared to being the turbo model. You’re talking 60 more horse from upper model. That’s what I’m worried about as well is price point. I wouldn’t personally compare the RZR in any level. A more accurate comparison would be the Yamaha. Then you have a couple closer in power and dependability. I think for most those are the two it’ll boil down to if they don’t need maximum power, shiny decals and a parking spot inside the dealership.

I agree the Yamaha YXZ 1000r SS is the direct target Honda is aiming for machine wise. But knocking off the market giant cannibalizing Polaris sales is where the money is at. Go for the guy with 45% market share, not the one with 9%.

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