theorellior:Uranus Is Huge!: You may understand the law. I understand the legal system

and physics.

Oh, look, another sanctimonious asshat who believes that the road is his because he uses gasoline instead of Cheerios to move around. And now you're talking about breaking the same laws you held sancrosanct just a few posts ago. What, the law's only good for cyclists? Where's that po-faced outrage at cyclists flaunting traffic laws? Awww, it's because you're mad you can't go fast! Poor driver!

CynicalLA:If the cyclists followed these rules I wouldn't have a problem. But most don't.

I'd take motorist more seriously about following the rules but they rarely follow the rules either. They don't stop at stop signs and they drive over the speed limit. Hell, they even get pissed at me when I drive the speed limit in the left lane on the expressway. Most motorists are hypocritical asshats.

JacobDavidWatson:theorellior: Uranus Is Huge!: You may understand the law. I understand the legal system

and physics.

Oh, look, another sanctimonious asshat who believes that the road is his because he uses gasoline instead of Cheerios to move around. And now you're talking about breaking the same laws you held sancrosanct just a few posts ago. What, the law's only good for cyclists? Where's that po-faced outrage at cyclists flaunting traffic laws? Awww, it's because you're mad you can't go fast! Poor driver!

He sounds fat.

Maybe by Somalian standards.

theorellior:Uranus Is Huge!: Well, if you're blowing through stop signs and ignoring laws because your feet are stuck to the pedals, you'd better be.

Say, you wouldn't have heard of any drivers in this thread expressing their desire to kill cyclists or anything, have you? That might have something to do with it.

Muta:CynicalLA: If the cyclists followed these rules I wouldn't have a problem. But most don't.

I'd take motorist more seriously about following the rules but they rarely follow the rules either. They don't stop at stop signs and they drive over the speed limit. Hell, they even get pissed at me when I drive the speed limit in the left lane on the expressway. Most motorists are hypocritical asshats.

The left lane is a passing lane and they have every right to be pissed at you. You are helping to cause traffic jams.

CynicalLA:The left lane is a passing lane and they have every right to be pissed at you. You are helping to cause traffic jams.

The "Speed Limit" is the fastest you are allowed to drive on the road. Regardless of what you are trying to do. Like I said, most motorists don't follow the rules of the road and you just proved it. The ones who complain about cyclists are hypocritical asshats.

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich:CynicalLA: I got so close to one yesterday that he had to shiat his pants. You should not be blocking traffic if you are not going the speed limit. You are on a bike and I will always win if there is a crash.

The law says I have the right to the road. And, at least the law around here is that you have to be 3 feet from a cyclist when you pass. If you don't like the law, you're welcome to walk or take the bus.

While threatening someone with death (i.e. passing too close to them with your car) is unacceptable, impeding traffic is against the law.

If for some reason your vehicle can't go fast enough to keep up with traffic, you are expected to pull over and let traffic pass instead of letting a long line of cars build up behind you. Failing to do so is a moving violation.

Muta:CynicalLA: The left lane is a passing lane and they have every right to be pissed at you. You are helping to cause traffic jams.

The "Speed Limit" is the fastest you are allowed to drive on the road. Regardless of what you are trying to do. Like I said, most motorists don't follow the rules of the road and you just proved it. The ones who complain about cyclists are hypocritical asshats.

Slower traffic should always keep right. You are the problem. In some states it's even illegal. Do you enjoy making people mad and their drive worse?

theorellior:CynicalLA: The cyclists that decide to use the highway instead of the bike path are the ones that really piss me off. I hope you don't do that.

So, when you're on the highway you follow every traffic law and never speed, right? Because you're all law-abiding like that, right? I mean, fark the scofflaw cyclists, you're better than they are.

I may speed but I never impede traffic. I'm always aware of my surroundings and go with the flow of traffic. The laws I break don't affect any other drivers and that's the big difference. Do you understand?

That is exactly what happened to me. I was approaching an intersection and a cop was waiting on the other side so I though, "hmmm, I better signal my right turn else the cop will be a dick and give me a ticket". I Put my left hand up at a right angle to signal the turn and the cop waved back. After that I figured if it was possible for a cop not to recognize the hand signal for a right turn then it was pretty likely that a normal motorist wouldn't either. After that, the one time a week when I would signal a right turn, I just stuck my right arm out.

Heh-- This happened to a friend of mine.How many drivers knbow what that signal means, anyway-- I just point.me...that way... OK?

I actually had my taillights out for a while, so I did the hand signals, just as specified in drivers' ed.

I got a LOT of weird looks.

(I assume the right turn signal originated as the left arm out the window, pointing to the right over the roof.)

I rode a bike home from work daily for about 6 months, a 13 mile trip. I observed the rules, road on the shoulder when I could and did my best to avoid becoming road pizza. But... After being cursed at, hit between the shoulder blades with a half full can of Budweiser and several pairs of soiled shorts... I decided Physics wins in the end and bought the first car I could afford. Sure, bicycles have the same rights blah blah blah, but those rights do you no good when you're dead.

That is exactly what happened to me. I was approaching an intersection and a cop was waiting on the other side so I though, "hmmm, I better signal my right turn else the cop will be a dick and give me a ticket". I Put my left hand up at a right angle to signal the turn and the cop waved back. After that I figured if it was possible for a cop not to recognize the hand signal for a right turn then it was pretty likely that a normal motorist wouldn't either. After that, the one time a week when I would signal a right turn, I just stuck my right arm out.

Heh-- This happened to a friend of mine.How many drivers knbow what that signal means, anyway-- I just point.me...that way... OK?

I actually had my taillights out for a while, so I did the hand signals, just as specified in drivers' ed.

I got a LOT of weird looks.

(I assume the right turn signal originated as the left arm out the window, pointing to the right over the roof.)

You assumed correctly.Do they still teach hand signals in driver's ed?From what I see, I'd guess not.

Fart_Machine:Why so butthurt over cyclists? I'd be happy if most drivers used turn signals or didn't act like pants-on-head retards behind the wheel.

Only butthurt over cyclists that impede traffic. The few laws I do break don't affect other drivers and hurt the flow of traffic. I have no problem with people that want to ride a bike and wish he had a better road system to accommodate them.

Uranus Is Huge!:Fart_Machine: Why so butthurt over cyclists? I'd be happy if most drivers used turn signals or didn't act like pants-on-head retards behind the wheel.

Live in Boulder a while. They'll kick your fenders when you don't yield to them while they're blowing through a red light.

Boulder hardly represents anything in the rest of the world. When you're in Boulder, you expect a bicycle-riding cop who happens to be smoking fair-trade marijuana to shoot you with lead-free rounds while you're stopped at a red light because you happen to have a lit cigarette.

dr_blasto:Uranus Is Huge!: Fart_Machine: Why so butthurt over cyclists? I'd be happy if most drivers used turn signals or didn't act like pants-on-head retards behind the wheel.

Live in Boulder a while. They'll kick your fenders when you don't yield to them while they're blowing through a red light.

Boulder hardly represents anything in the rest of the world. When you're in Boulder, you expect a bicycle-riding cop who happens to be smoking fair-trade marijuana to shoot you with lead-free rounds while you're stopped at a red light because you happen to have a lit cigarette.

You sound like someone that watches a lot of Bill O'Reilly or lives in the Springs (or Wyoming). Boulder is full of rich people and grumpy cops.

This must be the Perfect Drivers Convention. You know, the one where drivers who don't speed, roll through stop signs, text, have one too many beers before driving home, or forget to use their turn signal all get together to talk about how cyclists are so irresponsible.

Uranus Is Huge!:dr_blasto: Uranus Is Huge!: Fart_Machine: Why so butthurt over cyclists? I'd be happy if most drivers used turn signals or didn't act like pants-on-head retards behind the wheel.

Live in Boulder a while. They'll kick your fenders when you don't yield to them while they're blowing through a red light.

Boulder hardly represents anything in the rest of the world. When you're in Boulder, you expect a bicycle-riding cop who happens to be smoking fair-trade marijuana to shoot you with lead-free rounds while you're stopped at a red light because you happen to have a lit cigarette.

You sound like someone that watches a lot of Bill O'Reilly or lives in the Springs (or Wyoming). Boulder is full of rich people and grumpy cops.

Neener neener.

Today on Hannity: Boulder Liberal Uranus Is Huge! gets cranky in a bike thread. Is this Obama's fault? More at 11.

Most of you farktards that think they own the road just don't have the patience to be delayed 5 to 10 seconds on your journey. If there is no shoulder, even if there is a shoulder, cyclists are entitled to be in the travel lane. That's a fact. Just slow down for a second and go around. It's not difficult. If you see red every time you see someone on a bike and lump us all into the douchebag category, go fark yourself with a freaking porcupine.

astro716:I thought it was because the left brake is the front tire, and you don't want to be slowing down with the front tire while you're signaling the turn. That's a quick way to go over the handlebars.

You want to be stopping with your front tire (primarily) since about 75% of your braking power is in the front wheel (weight transfer... it even matters on a 20 pound bike). Getting in the habit of using the mostly the back is a quick way to skid through an intersection because you couldn't stop in time.

dr_blasto:Uranus Is Huge!: dr_blasto: Uranus Is Huge!: Fart_Machine: Why so butthurt over cyclists? I'd be happy if most drivers used turn signals or didn't act like pants-on-head retards behind the wheel.

Live in Boulder a while. They'll kick your fenders when you don't yield to them while they're blowing through a red light.

Boulder hardly represents anything in the rest of the world. When you're in Boulder, you expect a bicycle-riding cop who happens to be smoking fair-trade marijuana to shoot you with lead-free rounds while you're stopped at a red light because you happen to have a lit cigarette.

You sound like someone that watches a lot of Bill O'Reilly or lives in the Springs (or Wyoming). Boulder is full of rich people and grumpy cops.

Neener neener.

Today on Hannity: Boulder Liberal Uranus Is Huge! gets cranky in a bike thread. Is this Obama's fault? More at 11.

Bah. I don't care nearly as much as I let on (anymore). My biggest complaint these days is the volume of cyclists that prefer the roads without bike lanes despite this being one of the most bicycle friendly areas of the country. Jagoffs doing 25 in a 55 on a road with tiny/nonexistent shoulders...

I think a spandex clad troll came into this thread and didn't like how the mirror looked.

CynicalLA:andersoncouncil42: If there is no shoulder, even if there is a shoulder, cyclists are entitled to be in the travel lane. That's a fact. Just slow down for a second and go around. It's not difficult.

Never going to happen. Good luck with that.

Most cars do. It's not an unreasonable request. Those that don't are just displaying their utterly despicable empty soulless craven selves. They are bad and should feel bad.