Trump frequently uses imprecise and vague language. When he does his opponents jump on it and interpret it in the worse possible light.

I don’t know or really care what he said to the widow. The fact is that he called her to express his condolences. That’s it. That is what matters.

He did not call her to be mean or to impugn the character of her husband. That’s moronic. He may or may not have been awkward in what he said, but the act of calling to offer his condolences is an act of sympathy. That is what should matter. Spinning it any other way is repugnant noise.

Actually he did not. But if I was to use your logic, then Kelly’s statements must be true as to what he said about Wilson and her comments at the FBI Building Opening. So which is it. Kelly telling the truth or not! Is Wilson and empty barrel?

ZachThat’s what would have mattered, except Trump then lied about what was said, then sent Kelly out, who spread falsehoods about Rep. Wilson.

Come on Zach, you can’t have it both ways. Kelly tells the truth then not?

Actually, he did. Kelly provided the context, what he was once told, what he told the President, and what the President was trying to say.

MarkSmith: Kelly telling the truth or not!

Turns out that liars sometimes tell the truth. In this case, Kelly probably thought he correctly remembered the story about Wilson, but when it turned out he was utterly wrong, he had a responsibility to correct himself. He didn’t, which turned a misstatement into a malicious lie.

Barry: It’s hard being a commie and trying to keep your story straight in the same paragraph.

While Kelly is not a communist, that is a fair description of his comments on the matter. Johnson’s widow confirmed Wilson’s account. Kelly confirmed Wilson’s account. So we *know* Trump lied and has continued to lie. Then Kelly told a story meant to impugn Wilson, which turned out to be flagrantly false. He didn’t correct the record, turning the false story into a lie.

Frankly, Trump should have simply apologized for his clumsy delivery and reiterated his condolences. Instead, he had to lie about it. As for Kelly, if he had stopped with his discussion of the pain associated with death, if he had said what Trump was trying to say, it would have been a great speech. Instead, he had to attack Wilson, a long-time friend of the soldier’s family. He told a falsehood about Wilson, and called her an empty barrel even though she was telling the truth, and he was the person conveying falsehoods.

Honestly what is wrong with Trump fanatics (I’m assuming that is who down voted my simple fact based comment)? The widow says Wilson didn’t misrepresent the call, so are y’all going to call her a liar? Really? Look, I didn’t say one word about Trump but if y’all now want the bar set at the low standard of simply picking up the phone to make what appears to be the vocal equivalent of a form letter to absolve him of acting a fool then there go right ahead, but I’m not jumping off the cliff with you. I’ll believe the widow until Trump produces the “proof” he claimed he had in an earlier tweet. But I don’t expect he has such proof or that any evidence to support his side of the events will ever come to light, but I also don’t expect those of you who want to defend him in this ridiculous story—of his own making—to ever admit he was wrong and owes her an apology (specifically the widow).

smousheeI’ll believe the widow until Trump produces the “proof” he claimed he had in an earlier tweet.

Good for you, except this is a private matter and is non of your business. It might be about Trump in your book, but it is about respecting a grief stricken gold star parent. The Dems and Wilson push it out there. The cartoon says it all.

As for believing that you would believe Trump if he produced “proof”! BS! I doubt that. The fact that you want him to produce it is disgusting. The matter should be dropped.