Joel’s podcasting hero, Jay Pod Vader Soderberg, joins the podcast to talk about his career in media, radio, podcating and life in and out of companies like ESPN, Blog Talk Radio, Spreaker and more.

'Podcasts don't have a "middle" ... radio is nothing but "middle."'

Pod Vader was the backbone of ESPN’s launch into podcasting producing dozens of shows at once and featuring in many of them on-air as well as behind the scenes. At the top of his field and working for the biggest player in the space, he leapt out to help independent producers with Blog Talk Radio (now Voxnest) helping small shows, big shows and everything in between make money right away using dynamic advertising.

Starting the next phase of his career, we look over all of his jobs and experiences while speculating about what’s next in the podcast space. To hear from Jay regularly, find The Next FanUp podcast or follow him on Twitter at @TheRealPodVader

Join us for a great conversation about radio, podcasting, the audio industry and more.