~If you speak of a gun as a toy, then you see medical waste as playground filler. Yes, it means you're a screwed up individual.~~"An invasion of mainland America is unwise. Behind every blade of grass a rifle would await us"-Yamamoto IsorokuI predicted that Chicago/Cook county will be sold out in order to get "shall issue".Based on the restrictions on carry in Chicago/Cook County, I was right.

NRA Will Appeal Decision Denying Right to Carry Outside the HomeLate today, a federal district court in Illinois wrongly ruled that the Second Amendment does not protect a right to protect firearms for self-protection outside the home. The NRA funded this challenge to Illinois’ ban on citizens’ ability to carry firearms legally outside their homes and businesses for self-defense, and will also be supporting an immediate appeal to the Seventh Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals—and to the Supreme Court if necessary.The decision in the case of Shepard v. Madigan misreads the Supreme Court’s Second Amendment decisions and will continue to deprive law-abiding Illinoisans of the right to protect themselves effectively against crime on the streets. It also conflicts with a growing body of case law elsewhere in the country, where courts have increasingly recognized that the right to bear arms for self-defense doesn’t end at Americans’ front doors.“The NRA’s legal efforts will not end until the right to carry firearms for self-defense is fully recognized throughout our land,” said Chris W. Cox, executive director of the NRA Institute for Legislative Action.For more information on this and other critical Second Amendment cases, please sign up for our free Legal Update newsletter at www.nraila.org/legalupdate.

While a 9 mm or .40 caliber bullet may or may not expand, it is an undeniable fact that a .45 caliber bullet will never shrink.

Especially this:IV. CONCLUSIONAccordingly, the Court FINDS that the plaintiffs’ claim that the provisions of the State ofIllinois’ Unlawful Use of a Handgun and Aggravated Unlawful Use of a Handgun statutes do notviolate the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution because the bearing of afirearm outside the home is not a core right protected by the Second Amendment.

How can a judge get it so wrong?

"It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." --Samuel Adams

Especially this:IV. CONCLUSIONAccordingly, the Court FINDS that the plaintiffs' claim that the provisions of the State ofIllinois' Unlawful Use of a Handgun and Aggravated Unlawful Use of a Handgun statutes do notviolate the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution because the bearing of afirearm outside the home is not a core right protected by the Second Amendment.

Especially this:IV. CONCLUSIONAccordingly, the Court FINDS that the plaintiffs' claim that the provisions of the State ofIllinois' Unlawful Use of a Handgun and Aggravated Unlawful Use of a Handgun statutes do notviolate the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution because the bearing of afirearm outside the home is not a core right protected by the Second Amendment.

How can a judge get it so wrong?

Perhaps the judge is unwilling to rule beyond where there is clear and binding precedent. It will be no doubt be appealed. keep in mind there is some indication that the appeals court one step up from this guy may well have a different opinion (Ezell).

In any case, it probably would have not been final even if the judge had ruled in our favor as the state would have appealed.

bob

Disclaimers: I am not a lawyer, cop, soldier, gunsmith, politician, plumber, electrician, or a professional practitioner of many of the other things I comment on in this forum.

The opinions expressed by this poster do not reflect the official stance of Illinois Carry. Apparently there was some confusion on the part of at least one person that it does, and I want to make things clear that my opinion is my own and that whatever the official stance of IC is or is not at present, it may or may not reflect my own opinion.

Now that we are years away, if even then, from a favorable court ruling (appeals take forever), let's get it done in Springfield!

I wonder what impact this will have on the handful of no votes "we" have been trying to win over to our side (those who voted no on HB148). I know everyone in this forum, and those lobbying for our cause, was hoping this case would force their hand. While I remain hopeful for a majority vote, I suspect this will be another bump in the road which makes a successful end even more challenging. No one said it would be easy, right? I look forward to hearing Todd's input on this (and others that are qualified to speak to this issue).

Especially this:IV. CONCLUSIONAccordingly, the Court FINDS that the plaintiffs’ claim that the provisions of the State ofIllinois’ Unlawful Use of a Handgun and Aggravated Unlawful Use of a Handgun statutes do notviolate the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution because the bearing of afirearm outside the home is not a core right protected by the Second Amendment.

How can a judge get it so wrong?

Is there a typo here? Shouldn't it be, "the Court FINDS that the defendants' claim . . ."

"It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." --Samuel Adams

Especially this:IV. CONCLUSIONAccordingly, the Court FINDS that the plaintiffs' claim that the provisions of the State ofIllinois' Unlawful Use of a Handgun and Aggravated Unlawful Use of a Handgun statutes do notviolate the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution because the bearing of afirearm outside the home is not a core right protected by the Second Amendment.

How can a judge get it so wrong?

Is there a typo here? Shouldn't it be, "the Court FINDS that the defendants' claim . . ."

The Defendent is Lisa et al, Mary Shepard is the plantiff, is that what you mean?

Bud

Winter is coming
and the White Walkers are already attacking the cities

And this dismissal was from what was to be the "better" of the venues between Shepard and Moore?

I guess we know even more what to expect when Moore is ruled on......

Moore was ruled on and dismissed at this district level several weeks ago!

Are you a member of the ISRA?? If not, why not?? Join over 18,000 other Illinois gun owners in the fight for your rights!!!

The Roman Empire fell due to a large, corrupt government, overspending, an overextended military, insecure borders, and the illegal immigration of Goths, barbarians (anyone who was not educated), and religious fanatics. Sound familiar?

"..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.."--Samuel Adams

This state gets it wrong on so many topics that this is no surprise. Justice in the state of Illinois is illusive, and for many, non-existent. For those who do find justice in this state, it is often costly and lengthy.

Those opposed to any CCW in this state will now feel no pressure to allow CCW in any form, and this fight will likely drag on for several more years. They are hoping we will give up, or run out of resources, but they underestimate our resolve and determination. If not for us, we will continue to push for justice for our children and grand-children, along with those we will never know, who will avail themselves of the basic, fundamental right to self defense wherever they go in Illinois. The day will come, but it may be a while now.