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story from Apr 7, 2008, titled United House of Prayer for All People: Bishop's body in Charlot....
In it, www.topix.net reports that:

The body of Bishop S.C. 'Sweet Daddy' Madison -- only the third leader in the 89-year-history of the United House of Prayer for All People -- will lie in state Thursday night at the denomination's palatial N.C. ...

<quoted text>Yes I do believe you and I pray God bless you for having the strength to say it. For so long ex- maids have been afraid to tell what happen to them. My aunt told me that you really couldn't speak out then because no one would believe you and your own mother and father would turn against you if you said anything. My aunt also told me that when the CMG came to town no maid really wanted to stay with him at night because they all knew what he would try to do. Why would he sit naked in front of young maids? Nevertheless, many members of The UHOP will die first before they will believe what has happen. Many members know that McCollough's youngest son(punk in they called him) was not by Madame McCollough. But you can't hide the true

Thank you. Your Aunt was not lying. I, and a few "ex-maids" that I know, have experienced that and more. As you can see I have totaly ignored that statement from "UHOP_Believer" -(#4709). It would be a waste of my precious time to respond to that type of ignorance. May God Bless you and your family.

<quoted text>TSB,My words are biblical because it is fact. I was there and I know what McCollough taught and said. I heard him when he said "I am NOT Jesus and don't call me JESUS". I hope you remembered that. Now how clear can that be. He told you until he was blue in the face that he was Jesus' Servant and that he accepted the calling to lead the HOP. And that we are to follow him as he followed CHRIST. He didn't run from his authority which was given him. Some of yall didn't and don't like it because he taught w/authority and had the power to back it.

Thank you for pointing out that Bishop McCollough did say he was NOT Jesus and not to call him Jesus. But you know I am telling the truth when I said I heard him say and I quote,“I am your Jesus”. So which was it? You know scripture. Didn’t you find those statements contradictory? It's just another shining example of the bishops’ total lack of respect for the intelligence of their followers, the willingness of the members to believe anything they hear without question, and the inability of false doctrine to keep its facts straight.

In response to the die-hard HOP member comment; if the current members in the HOP were truly die-hard body of Christ members instead of “die-hard” HOP members, you would have no members.

<quoted text>TSB,My words are biblical because it is fact. I was there and I know what McCollough taught and said. I heard him when he said "I am NOT Jesus and don't call me JESUS". I hope you remembered that. Now how clear can that be. He told you until he was blue in the face that he was Jesus' Servant and that he accepted the calling to lead the HOP. And that we are to follow him as he followed CHRIST. He didn't run from his authority which was given him. Some of yall didn't and don't like it because he taught w/authority and had the power to back it.Now, i'm going to take you in the Bible and see how the Galatians received the Apostle Paul. I know you going to find some excuse, but the Holy Ghost don't lie: Read Gal 4:14. How did the Galatians receive Paul? Didn't the Holy Ghost say "EVEN AS an angel(messenger) of GOD, EVEN as CHRIST JESUS". What did the Holy Ghost just say, they received Paul EVEN AS CHRIST JESUS. So in a nutshell the Galatians received Paul AS Christ JESUS. This fulfills what JESUS himself said. "He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me(JESUS), and he that receiveth me receiveth him(THE FATHER) that sent me" John 13:30.Many people stumble at Paul's word because he taught w/authority. Daddy McCollough taught with authority. He didn't deny the fact that he had the Power of GOD working through him. He mentioned one time that HIS power moves him. If GOD saw fit to give him power to do GOD's work, then who are you or anyone else to find a fault. There were naysayers in his day as there is now. Like Daddy McCollough said, if you think you can do better, then get out here and lead GOD's People instead of standing on the sidelines criticizing and moaning about this and that.You folks want to talk about peoples sins. Every ONE that is born is and was a sinner EXCEPT ONE. That means Grace, McCollough, Madison and whoever you may look up. But, these men were called of GOD to preach the Gospel and they did just that and converted many a soul. Read James 5:20. And though you all may hold their sins against them, GOD will not because they were believers in the Most High and HIS Son and were obedient to their specific calling. My warning to you is tread lightly when talking about God's Servants: the same judgment you apply to GOD's Servants is the SAME judgment that he will apply to you. If you show no mercy nor forgiveness, then GOD will show none to you.That's the problem, some of yall were die-hard HOP members instead of being die-hard members of the CHURCH(i.e. the body of CHRIST). There is a difference between the two.

bro read the whole thing.. Paul and barnasus STOPPED THEM FROM WORSHIPPING THEM READ THE WHOLE THING!!!!

<quoted text>Power to tear down, is this how you view God. You have followed the evil ways of Man so long you think evil. If destruction comes too this world it’s the works of Man, not God. God is not raining down sickness and destruction, its Man.We are here to teach Love, not hate. Your Church was built on a lie, therefore until you correct that lie all you will see is evil. If you spent as much time trying to learn the truth as you do in trying to dispute us, you wouldn’t have to write a whole book to get your point across. Instead you rather sound like a babbling fool instead of someone with good sense.We are not disputing the Bible, we are disputing you Daddies. And no matter how many scriptures you quote, none will justify the reason the UHOP should continue to exist. The Devil has a way of creeping into good and turning it bad. That’s what’s going on in the UHOP. You have allowed the Devil to take control.This is why the UHOP avoid using Jesus name.If God was in the UHOP, you would be thanking God in the name of Jesus not in the name of Daddy.

As usual, you say you don't judge but have said my church was built on a lie. No, I don't dispute how you worshipped in vain while you there. You eloquently told the world what a fool you were to believe that the Bishop was greater than Jesus and that you worshipped a man. Your praise was to and for the MAN. NO! I don't dispute that you did that. On the other hand, I choose to believe what he taught and lived how he taught me to live. I know you avoided the name of Jesus while you were there, that is something that you must reconcile w/GOD in judgement day.

I know GOD is in HIS House and i meet HIM there every time i go. When you all were there, you went for worldly reasons. The Scripture talked about your type. You see, I'm like David, i can't wait to enter HIS courts. OOOPS. My bad. Your god doesn't have court you can enter. I'm sorry.

I can't help the fact that your faith is weak, therefore you have NO PLACE to go. What a pity.:( Your god left you down here and not one place you can fellowship with. And because of the misery you now live in, the only thing left for you to do is to criticize everybody's faith and religion.

FYI. You can never dispute the Bible w/me because you don't know it and you don't believe in it. You can't even read it and comprehend it; neither in English nor in it's original tongue. But for me, GOD has granted HIS wisdom to allow me to read and understand the language that the Holy Prophets spoke in. Mark my words, as you have judged the HOP and it's members and your neighbors' faith and religion, so will GOD judge you with that same judgement. Matthew 7:2

What a pity NO PLACE, NO LEADER to teach you, NO WHERE to fellowship. And after ALL these years still following the UHOPFAP. I must say the Adversary did a number on you. You like to talk about Catholics doing such good things, why don't you join there religion. Hmmm. I think not. Why not join the COGIC. Hmmm. I think not. Why not join the Apostolic denoms. Hmmm. I think not. Why not join the Holiness, or Baptist. Surely GOD must HAVE SOME PLACE for your GO. You know what: I think you just rebellious, can't subject yourself to authority. The same way you were when you attended the HOP. Probably was un-teachable. Disrespectful. Boastful. Prideful and a loud mouth that made fun and talked about people.

As Daddy McCollough said, I might be a fool, but i'm sure not lost; and he wasn't either. I know you remember him saying that.:)

<quoted text>Thank you for pointing out that Bishop McCollough did say he was NOT Jesus and not to call him Jesus. But you know I am telling the truth when I said I heard him say and I quote,“I am your Jesus”. So which was it? You know scripture. Didn’t you find those statements contradictory? It's just another shining example of the bishops’ total lack of respect for the intelligence of their followers, the willingness of the members to believe anything they hear without question, and the inability of false doctrine to keep its facts straight.In response to the die-hard HOP member comment; if the current members in the HOP were truly die-hard body of Christ members instead of “die-hard” HOP members, you would have no members.

I know what McCollough said and meant and he made no statements that contradicted his belief that he was Jesus' Servant. I heard Daddy McCollough say that he had to ASK of the Power and the Power was sitting on the Right Hand Side of GOD. Now Daddy McCollough wasn't speaking Greek. This is modern day English. Those statements right there should have told you that just as Jesus was not greater than THE FATHER, so to was Daddy McCollough not greater that JESUS, the ONE who sent him.

On the contrary, the UHOP would still have members.

Tell me, where do you go? I bet NO WHERE. Is the one you serve so impotent and powerless that HE has left NOT 1 PLACE for you to go; NOT 1 PLACE where you can fellowship, NOT 1 PERSON to teach you.

<quoted text>If God calls on me to Lead his people, should I continue to live in sin. They were supposed to change their ways. If they didn’t they were not called by God, You claim God fixed these men, in what way. Stop confusing God with the Devil.

Yes HE fixed him. It's not for me un-confuse your understanding GOD's Work. Can you do what Daddy McCollough did? NOPE. You don't have the faith to do what HE did.

You deny GOD's work. Let me warn you Miss.... Don't be like the Pharisees. When they saw GOD's work being done through JESUS. THEY DENIED IT! because they had a problem with THE MAN. JESUS warned them that denying HIM will be forgiven, but to DENY THE WORK endangers your soul. Matthew 12:26-32. The Pharisee did as you and spoke against Jesus by calling HIM a DEVIL, thereby declaring and insinuating HIS work is of the devil. Just as you have called Daddy McCollough a devil and sinful, thereby insinuating his work is of the devil and sinful.

And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven. But WHAT WILL not be FORGIVEN IN THIS AGE OR NEXT is to speak against THE HOLY GHOST. I leave it to you to figure how one speaks against the HOLY GHOST.

<quoted text>This is why I always give thanks to the person that started this board; we are finally being heard, for 55 years I couldn’t tell anybody but the Lord.

Hmmm. Let's do some math. 55 years ago would be 1958. Yet you talked about Daddy McCollough and being around him. Even around Daddy Madison. So let's take some assumptions. I would guess that you were of adult age around 1958. I'm going to estimate around 20 years old.

If GOD showed you the light at 1958 when you were of adulthood, then why were you still going to the HOP as you have stated in your posts.

Evidently the trauma that you suffered under Grace didn't make you run anywhere fast, but you stayed UNTIL you disagreed w/something. Then you come out of the so-called closet. I guess when you were in your 20s, 30s, a gun was held to your head and your mother forced you to stay. I get it...

You have discredited yourself.:):) You are funny... Keeping talking..... I have an excellent memory of the things you said. And you left ALL the crumbs on the table for me look at.:):)

All you are is a wanna be ex-hop member who wants to come back so bad. Like an "crack addict" looking for the next hit/high. You probably wake-up in the morning twitching and thinking about the HOP.

Nobody ex-communicated you. The same way you ran out is the same way that you can run back in. But if you come back in remove the scales from your eyes and don't be like a female wolf.

<quoted text>Yes HE fixed him. It's not for me un-confuse your understanding GOD's Work. Can you do what Daddy McCollough did? NOPE. You don't have the faith to do what HE did.

You’re a fool, these Men corrupted the minds of children, and all you can say is we worship them. We were children being lead into damnation by Men who claim God sent them. We had nowhere to go and no one to help us. Your Church chose to have a blind eye on things they knew were wrong in order to please Daddy. I didn’t know how too live right; they corrupted my mind as a child. Thank God I have lived long enough too learn the difference.

You call raping the children, exploiting the people Gods work. It’s like I said stop confusing God’s works with the Devil’s works.

You talk this nonsense on this board. I dare you to take your views to Puffy. You want to belong somewhere so bad, so why not in the UHOP. That’s the one place where any thing goes.

<quoted text>I know what McCollough said and meant and he made no statements that contradicted his belief that he was Jesus' Servant. I heard Daddy McCollough say that he had to ASK of the Power and the Power was sitting on the Right Hand Side of GOD. Now Daddy McCollough wasn't speaking Greek. This is modern day English. Those statements right there should have told you that just as Jesus was not greater than THE FATHER, so to was Daddy McCollough not greater that JESUS, the ONE who sent him.On the contrary, the UHOP would still have members.Tell me, where do you go? I bet NO WHERE. Is the one you serve so impotent and powerless that HE has left NOT 1 PLACE for you to go; NOT 1 PLACE where you can fellowship, NOT 1 PERSON to teach you.

You assume incorrectly. I am a member of a church, non-denominational of course. The funny thing is that those of my family who are still HOP members still spoke to me and made themselves comfortable in my home as long as I had not made a commitment to another church. I guess they thought there was still some hope for me. When I joined another church, I suddenly became the enemy and was perceived as a threat of some kind. But you know what? I will not let the hatred of my family members or anyone else in the HOP keep me from going to God's house (which actually is a house of prayer, not its name though)where I can receive God's word, ask questions without fear of repercussion and receive answers in line with the Gospel.

<quoted text>You assume incorrectly. I am a member of a church, non-denominational of course. The funny thing is that those of my family who are still HOP members still spoke to me and made themselves comfortable in my home as long as I had not made a commitment to another church. I guess they thought there was still some hope for me. When I joined another church, I suddenly became the enemy and was perceived as a threat of some kind. But you know what? I will not let the hatred of my family members or anyone else in the HOP keep me from going to God's house (which actually is a house of prayer, not its name though)where I can receive God's word, ask questions without fear of repercussion and receive answers in line with the Gospel.

Don't be ashamed. What is the name of the non-denominational place of worship that you go to. Where is this house of prayer where you receive God's Word. I guarantee you will not say. If your family treated you that way, then i feel sorry for them and you.

I guess what befuddles me is if i belonged to an organization/religion/sect/pla ce that i did not agree with and i decided to leave and found another org/religion/sect/place that I believe, then I would not look back to the old because i have found what i desired.

You and others claim you have found "IT", don't know what "IT" is, but yet you still look back to the HOP. You know what: it reminds me of the story of LOT's wife. GOD's Servant was leading them out of a place of danger and told them "DON'T LOOK BACK". Yet Lot's wife couldn't help herself. You all label the HOP as something as dangerous, YET YOU STILL KEEP LOOKING AT IT.

For what?

The difference between me and you is i will not label the place you go to as not God's House, but you are quick to tell me i'm not going to one.

<quoted text>You’re a fool, these Men corrupted the minds of children, and all you can say is we worship them. We were children being lead into damnation by Men who claim God sent them. We had nowhere to go and no one to help us. Your Church chose to have a blind eye on things they knew were wrong in order to please Daddy. I didn’t know how too live right; they corrupted my mind as a child. Thank God I have lived long enough too learn the difference.You call raping the children, exploiting the people Gods work. It’s like I said stop confusing God’s works with the Devil’s works.You talk this nonsense on this board. I dare you to take your views to Puffy. You want to belong somewhere so bad, so why not in the UHOP. That’s the one place where any thing goes.

Sound like a 2 year old baby. Criminals make all kinds of excuses about why they did what they did. Take ownership of your problems. Don't tell me "You didn't know how to live right". I have NEVER, and I MEAN NEVER have seen somebody that is as low as you from the female race. If you represent CHRIST, then all i can say is I would not want nothing that your "god" could give me.

I don't need to take my views nowhere because i'm in the HOP and living that holy life. Praising GOD in HIS courts and thanking HIM for revealing things that the Spirit of Truth will reveal to them that love and fear HIM. You just HATE ME.:):)

As Daddy McCollough said and you heard him. I MIGHT BE A FOOL, but I"M not LOST!:):)

Gee-tee, You know what i think you are lying about your age. If you have been in the HOP since 1958 and my estimate, if correct that you were 20 years old at that time since you say that you were chomping at the bit from 1958 on to tell your story, then if my est. about your age is right, then that means you are in your 70's.(approx 75) I don't think a 70 year lady would be on the internet talking like you if you were really born around that era.

You are from my era which means you are around the 40 to 60 range. Hmmm.

If i i take 5 years off my estimate, then that means you were 15 at 1958, which means you were born in 1943. And even if you were 15, then that would make you 70. Still holds.....

<quoted text>I just love the way you think, Thank You. Someone is hearing you. Thank You

It is my sincere belief that many more HOP folk are on this page. Than ever before. They are scouring the Internet because they are hearing of a site that discusses the taboo in the HOP. They have to, many are seeing the lunacy currently taking place in the HOP and realizing it has been this crazy all along. Most HOP folk are identifying the absurdities of the past as incidents due to the lack of knowledge and communication. And of course the work of our Adversary. The veil of secrecy in the HOP is coming down faster than anyone has ever seen before. It is a good thing. If anyone would dare think that YaHuWaH would leave all of his people ignorant forever has never read the scriptures with any understanding. Gee-Tee I second that praise for the person(s) who started this site.Shaluwm

Bishop S.C. Madison, the Presiding Bishop of the United House of Prayer for All People has been laid to rest in grand fashion April 14. He was only the third leader of what must be considered the first Black “Mega Church.”My hat is off to the UHOP. May God Be Pleased With You. UHOP members don’t stand out from other middle class,“Raisin in the Sun” type, striving Black folks, they don’t change their names to “El” or “Bey” or Rashideen. Of course their clean, well dressed, well represented. But there’s something else about their strength I admire. The way they worship, their exuberant musical tributes.Bishop Grace–Sweet Daddy Grace–founded his first church in West Waltham, Massachusetts, around 1919. By the mid-1920s he had moved South, and was holding large, popular revivals and tent-meetings around Charlotte, North Carolina. In 1927, with an estimated 13,000 followers, Bishop Grace incorporated The United House of Prayer for All People of the Church on the Rock of the Apostolic Faith. The church grew rapidly and soon included branches all along the eastern seaboard, claiming some 500,000 people in 100 congregations in 67 cities.Was he “charismatic” or merely “flamboyant?”Charles Manuel Grace was of mixed African and Portuguese descent, born in the Cape Verde Islands around 1882. His family came to the United States during the first decade of the twentieth century. In the Cape Verdean communities of New Bedford and Cape Cod, Massachusetts, the young Charles Grace worked as a short-order cook, a cranberry picker, and a sewing machine and patent medicine salesman, before giving his life completely to his ministry.

Bishop Grace was said to have been a showman, but he was always a generous benefactor. He sponsored bands and parades, and tossed candy to his followers (hence “Sweet Daddy”) and to this day UHOP marching bands and steppers travel up and down the east coast in bright, shiny, dream-mobile-looking buses where they perform at various congregation meetings and rallies.

Daddy Grace dazzled with his long hair, multicolored robes, and colored fingernails.Â His followers believed he had the power to bless such ordinary items as soap, coffee, and eggs, and many believed that buttered toast from his plate had the power to heal. Although Bishop Grace did not claim the divinity that his followers assigned to him, neither did he deny it.“I never said I was God,” he once clarified,“but you cannot prove to me I’m not.”

Okay.

Another thing I admire, is that even though his followers worship Bishop Grace, his successor, and Bishop Walter “Sweet Daddy” McCullough, and now just departed Bishop S.C. Madison as “Daddy.” the followers don’t seem to act like “Babies.” They impress me, from the outside at least, as strong people God-fearing people who know and appreciate the value of life and of “things.”

In his own right, Bishop Madison stood firm against the very ultimate force of gentrification and urban renewal ever faced by any inner-city church leader, the encroachment into the church’s residential neighborhood with the construction of the new Walter E. Washington Convention Center. To his eternal credit, Bishop Madison apparently did not yield an inch to the developers, not one apartment given up at Canaanland Apartments on Seventh Street. God Bless his soul!

The Rev. Willie Wilson said of Bishop Madison: He was a supreme example that churches can play a role in the housing and economic development needs of our community. He as well as the United House of Prayer, continued the historic position of setting up hospitals, banks and stores for the community, and it came out of the Black church. We need to emulate more of what he did.” Rev. Wilson told James Wright of the Afro-American newspaper.

Indeed, that it seems is the church tradition. Sweet Daddy Grace, after all, was known for spending a good portion of his income on his congregations, supplying apartments, pension funds, burial plans, and free food to the faithful.

And another thing. How do you let someone tell you they have the power to place someone in heaven, yet they don't have the power of life or death. When they have never seen God nor heaven themselves. This is really beginning to be ludicrous the more you here the rhetoric. That come from bailey.How can you stay and listen to someone says if you want to see Gods face look on the mountain. Oh my God. This is Baal in its finest. And you justify this, this all means that you Are against the almighty God.I'm just trying to help somebody.

Oh!!!!! And you are! You are helping somebody! Keep teaching! This is better than a Sunday morning listening to a eld preach from the top of his head about Isaiah 56:7 as proof HOP is right. Keep teaching!

Does the UHOP EVER OFFER ANYTHING FREE OF CHARGE to at least the kids, or sick & shut in?????..... because if they did, maybe some of these KIDS out here wouldnt turn to the STREETS, just to have something to do!!!!Back in the day, it was a choice of being a MAID, or playing in the band, which one way or another required MONEY!!!!......if you cant see that all this CULT does is REQUIRE MONEY TO EVEN BREATH IN ONE OF THEIR "HOUSES", then maybe thats where you belong!!!!!..... For the ones attending one of their "services" today, TAKE NOTE!!!!!Its GUARANTEED that youll LEARN something, rather than just running your big mouth in DEFENSE OF A CULT THATS ROBBING YOU,and STILL not saying anything in the end...By the way, any updates on what the IRS has investigated as to WHY the cameras have been mysteriously TURNED OFF, during their "love marches?".......or are these LYING UHOP members gonna cover that one up too ?!?!?!....just a QUESTION from an INQUIRING mind......no pun intended

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