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Re: Vikings - Colts

He looks great when they let him throw instead of treating him like he is Tebow or something.

Agreed. Luck led a beautiful drive to set up that FG at the end of the game when he was able to play to his capabilities. Our play calling was overly conservative in the previous four possessions and it almost cost us the game. I hope that doesn't become a trend. Let Luck throw.

Re: Vikings - Colts

He made a 50 yarder against the Jets in that playoff game two years ago which should have won the game. Our special teams blew it on the kickoff coverage and let the Jets get great field position. Vinatieri was great that season.

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I know the Colts aren't likely to be better than 4-12 or 5-11 at best this year, but it still feels good to win a meaningful game.

Not trying to be a homer, but I really think we could win more games than that. Our schedule is littered with garbage teams. I don't think we are that good, but I honestly think we could win 7 or so games this year.

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Not trying to be a homer, but I really think we could win more games than that. Our schedule is littered with garbage teams. I don't think we are that good, but I honestly think we could win 7 or so games this year.

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How huge would it be if we beat Jacksonville next week and are 2-1 heading into the bye? Jacksonville is 0-2 and is not good at all. I think we have a very good chance at winning that game after today. But winning that game and being 2-1 heading into the bye week would be huge because the next two games are home against Green Bay and away at the Jets. Those will obviously be tough. Lets say we lose both of those and are 2-3. Then our next 3 games are home against Cleveland, away at Tenn, and home against Miami. I think we could go 2-1 against those three teams.

It's not unreasonable that this team starts the season at 4-4. I'm not going to say it's likely, but it's certainly possible after today.

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He made a 50 yarder against the Jets in that playoff game two years ago which should have one the game. Our special teams blew it on the kickoff coverage and let the Jets get great field position. Vinatieri was great that season.

Wow I forgot about that which is surprising seeing as how that ended up being Manning's final game as a Colt

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And Peyton's classic look he shot Caldwell on the sideline after he called the timeout that let the Jets set up to win it. I'll never forget that. If looks could kill Caldwell would have been dead where he stood.

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Arians wants ground and pound, but we don't have the personnel for that, and I think he knows that. It's early in the season and he's trying to establish something of a semblance of that with the players the Colts do have. I think (and hope) he's going to realize it isn't working and let Luck do his thing. He did the same thing in Pittsburgh.

I have heard Coach Pagno say he wants a ground and pound (something to that effect) football team, but what about Arians? He certainly didn't show that in Pittsburgh and I think that is why they fired him/told him to retire. To be fair to Arians he was working with a offensive line in Pittsburgh that has been declining for years. However I don't think many Steeler fans were unhappy about him leaving. It appears that many didn't care for his play calling. I can see why. I think the Colts were too conservative in the second half. But hey in the end the Colts won and that's what matters.

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I think they just don't want to be dependent on a QB calling the plays all the time we did that with Manning and then when he was gone we couldn't handle it.

But I agree they need to let Luck be luck.

I have to be honest I much prefer having the QB calling the plays if he is capable, like Peyton is. I don't think Luck is there yet but he could be one day. There are few QBs in the league who are capable of calling the plays but I think it is such a huge advantage to have. If you have one of those QBs you should let him do that.

The Colts should aim to have more balance in this new era of Colts football but they should also recognize that any team who loses their future HOF QB is going to be screwed. If the Colts had started Dan Orlovsky all of last season I think they would have won 4-5 games or so.

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Big win, imperfect as it may have been. Keeps people (read: non-diehards) engaged and tickets selling for the next few home games.

Agree on the uber conservative play calling front. I understand the concept of running simply to keep the D honest, but when your line is that inept at run blocking, you're just wasting downs.

Hey, the Vikes are trash, but the D was decent and IMO Luck excellent. Particularly when you consider how much he did on his OWN. I mean 90% of NFL QBs would have been sacked on about 8 occasions today where he escaped and MADE a play. That said, the O-line is a train wreck. Hopefully we'll get some of the guys back from injury next week and there can at least be incremental progress.

Oh yeah, sign me on for Ballard. Let Brown be the change of pace back.

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Luck did enough to win it on his own. Certainly doesn't hurt to have Vinny on your team though. Brady has three rings because of Vinny so I'm willing to look the other way on one regular season game for Luck.

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I have heard Coach Pagno say he wants a ground and pound (something to that effect) football team, but what about Arians? He certainly didn't show that in Pittsburgh and I think that is why they fired him/told him to retire. To be fair to Arians he was working with a offensive line in Pittsburgh that has been declining for years. However I don't think many Steeler fans were unhappy about him leaving. It appears that many didn't care for his play calling. I can see why. I think the Colts were too conservative in the second half. But hey in the end the Colts won and that's what matters.

When I said he did the same thing in Pittsburgh, I guess I meant it in terms of Arians having to adapt to Roethlisberger's playing style.
I do recall Arians (or at least a reporter who interviewed him) say that he wanted to be a predominantly running offense in Pittsburgh when he started there, but they (the Steelers) started becoming more pass-happy as Roethlisberger developed into a good passing game.

“We want to be able to run the football when we want to run the football. There aren’t any numbers, every game dictates different numbers. But when we want to run it, we want to be able to run it, and be able to be physical.”
Arians talked about taking an ‘old school football’ approach to running the football and he has multiple backs at his disposal this training camp.

Also if Pagano wants ground and pound, I'm not sure he would've brought in Arians if he thought Arians would contradict his coaching philosophy.

I do agree with you though that his playcalling was too conservative for this game. At the very least we should've tried a HB sweep or two instead of running it up the gut for -2 yards every 1st down. I'm not even sure that would work, I'd just rather they tried something (a little) less predictable.

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I haven't read through the whole thread, so advance apologies if this has already been discussed. I noted a few things about Luck today.

1. He is excellent at sensing the pressure and moving in the pocket to avoid it. Excellent.
2. He was not especially accurate, despite the overall percentage. He underthrew Avery on that 1st qtr bomb, the TD to Allen was thrown late and at least 3 or 4 other inaccurate throws that were great catches. I was only judging him on throws where he had protection.
3. Dang that kids is ugly.