With all this hype about the NFL Draft and who the best player is yadda yadda yadda ... who is the most OVERRATED player this year? Who do you guys think will end up as being the biggest bust in this draft class?

My money is on Aaron Rodgers. I dunno why, I just have this gut feeling that the guy is all hype.

Originally posted by MayhemMy money is on Aaron Rodgers. I dunno why, I just have this gut feeling that the guy is all hype.

Rodgers is less the Ryan Leaf Syndrome and more the Jeff Tedford System. Six one way, half a dozen the other. However, I think Smith is more likely to be tagged with the Leaf tag when he crashes and burns.As for other busts, if Benson goes to Chicago, he's an automatic. Hell, any offensive player taken early in the first round by Chicago is an automatic bust.

Originally posted by MayhemMy money is on Aaron Rodgers. I dunno why, I just have this gut feeling that the guy is all hype.

Rodgers is less the Ryan Leaf Syndrome and more the Jeff Tedford System. Six one way, half a dozen the other. However, I think Smith is more likely to be tagged with the Leaf tag when he crashes and burns.As for other busts, if Benson goes to Chicago, he's an automatic. Hell, any offensive player taken early in the first round by Chicago is an automatic bust.

Originally posted by MayhemMy money is on Aaron Rodgers. I dunno why, I just have this gut feeling that the guy is all hype.

Rodgers is less the Ryan Leaf Syndrome and more the Jeff Tedford System. Six one way, half a dozen the other. However, I think Smith is more likely to be tagged with the Leaf tag when he crashes and burns.As for other busts, if Benson goes to Chicago, he's an automatic. Hell, any offensive player taken early in the first round by Chicago is an automatic bust.

I'm tempted to say everyone, since this isn't exactly a can't-miss crew of draft picks. I'll settle for "whomever the Browns pick."

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I'm taking Matt Jones from Arkansas. I just don't get this fascination with the 'slash' position players. Sure, there's usually guys who play one position mainly in college but project at another with the pros, but I'd always thought that was more of a lineman phenomenon. This kid played what, a year at WR before basically becoming the starting QB, and now he's listed on the draft boards as a WR/TE? The combine numbers are impressive but it just seems unfathomable that someone with most of his [significant] collegiate career at one skill position projects so highly at another skill position where he's got minimal game experience.

Originally posted by Big BadI'm tempted to say everyone, since this isn't exactly a can't-miss crew of draft picks. I'll settle for "whomever the Browns pick."

I would be offended. But history is strongly against me on this one.

This is a weird draft because pretty much any player that's expected to be a top ten guy has some serious bust potential. Or, they could turn out to be great. Something tells me that this draft will not be able to be judged next year. Usually there's several first-round picks that make an immediate impact, but I have a feeling it's going to take a couple years to get a good read on this one.

Steal of the draft: Maurice Clarett. Somebody's going to take him very low and have a stud running back for a long time. Ignore the off-the-field crap and the 40 times. The kid is a natural running back.

Originally posted by StegDutchieI'm taking Matt Jones from Arkansas. I just don't get this fascination with the 'slash' position players. Sure, there's usually guys who play one position mainly in college but project at another with the pros, but I'd always thought that was more of a lineman phenomenon. This kid played what, a year at WR before basically becoming the starting QB, and now he's listed on the draft boards as a WR/TE? The combine numbers are impressive but it just seems unfathomable that someone with most of his [significant] collegiate career at one skill position projects so highly at another skill position where he's got minimal game experience.

Well, there's Hines Ward and Antwan Randle El. To a lesser extent, Kordell Stewart too. But the Steelers can't get ALL the ex-QB's and line 'em up at WR.

Just don't stick Jones at safety (Hiya, Eric Crouch! Nice of you to bring Scott Frost along...) or some other position like that.

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Agreed. It would be a mistake to switch him to defense. I'm hoping the Chiefs find a way to pick up some first day picks tomorrow to maybe get a chance to take him. They could use someone that big and that fast to catch the ball.

Originally posted by The ThrillY'all got it wrong...Aaron Rodgers is Rich Campbell II

WHAT is with all this Aaron Rodgers hate? The guy is a VERY GOOD QB.

Well, is he a product of Tedford's system, or is he any good? To review, Tedford has produced the following QBs (and the selection of Rodgers makes 6 first round QBs from Tedford in 11 years [per USA Today]):

The funny thing is, is David Carr came out of Fresno State three years after Tedford produced Akili Smith at Orego, and the same year that Harrington came out of Oregon as well. I guess Carr probably spent at least a year with Tedford as a redshirt, but, he's not a true "Tedford guy", although the QB coach at Fresno State probably had similar coaching philosophy, it's also probably different enough. He's also easily the best QB out of that bunch. Bear in mind that he's been the starting QB for an expansion franchise, and spent much of his first year peeling himself off of the turf.

Originally posted by Sec19Row53Well, is he a product of Tedford's system, or is he any good? To review, Tedford has produced the following QBs (and the selection of Rodgers makes 6 first round QBs from Tedford in 11 years [per USA Today]):

Trent DilferDavid CarrAkili SmithJoey HarringtonKyle BollerAJ Feeley.

Pardon my lack of enthusiasm. I just hope he's good.

Well, I'd say the jury's still out on Harrington, as having Marty as his head coach may have killed him before he got going, but Akili Smith played ONE YEAR at Oregon and Kyle Boller had three crappy years at Cal before ONE GOOD YEAR when Tedford went to Cal. I think those guys were both workout wonders (Akili with arm-strength and Boller's overall workout, IIRC) and those are almost always stupid draft picks. A.J. Feeley wasn't even the starter at Oregon, so he can't really be considered a "Tedford guy", can he? At least all of the other guys were first-round picks.

I watched Aaron Rodgers complete 23 passes in a row against USC last year, almost beating them on the last play. No one else playing QB in college has come that close to beating USC lately, have they? He had two GREAT years at QB, as Smith did at Utah, and wasn't some one year-wonder like Akili or Boller.

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Originally posted by StaggerLeeWell, there's ONE super bowl winner in all of those. So, perhaps he isnt THAT bad of a coach?

Dilfer was fortunate to be on a team with one of the best defenses in the last thirty years and a very good ground attack. The fact that he's pretty much been a backup every year since his Super Bowl win should say something.

Originally posted by JayJayDeanWell, I'd say the jury's still out on Harrington, as having Marty as his head coach may have killed him before he got going, but Akili Smith played ONE YEAR at Oregon and Kyle Boller had three crappy years at Cal before ONE GOOD YEAR when Tedford went to Cal. I think those guys were both workout wonders (Akili with arm-strength and Boller's overall workout, IIRC) and those are almost always stupid draft picks. A.J. Feeley wasn't even the starter at Oregon, so he can't really be considered a "Tedford guy", can he? At least all of the other guys were first-round picks.

I watched Aaron Rodgers complete 23 passes in a row against USC last year, almost beating them on the last play. No one else playing QB in college has come that close to beating USC lately, have they? He had two GREAT years at QB, as Smith did at Utah, and wasn't some one year-wonder like Akili or Boller.

I'm not arguing with anything you said (I won't quibble on whether or not somebody was a Tedford guy -- I'm just repeating what's been said elsewhere). I'd just prefer that we went in a different direction with our draft. For as long as Brett Favre still wants to play, I think it makes sense to try to draft players who are ready to contribute NOW. I've already sat through the 70s and 80s - I want to soak up as much of this run with #4 as is possible. Drafting the "QB of the Future" doesn't help us win this year.

For what it's worth, other renowned Packer #12s (Rodgers' new number) include Jim Del Gaizo, John Hadl, Brian Dowling (that's "BD" from Doonesbury), and T.J. Rubley. To borrow a phrase from The Thrill - ye gods!

Originally posted by WhitebaconDilfer was fortunate to be on a team with one of the best defenses in the last thirty years and a very good ground attack. The fact that he's pretty much been a backup every year since his Super Bowl win should say something.

Dilfer's the ultimate "steady" QB. He won't win a game single-handedly, but he won't kill you with stupid mistakes and he'll hit the big one downfield a couple times a game. A handy guy to have around if all you need is what he did for the Ravens in 2000.

I think Rogers _ who beat USC two years ago, remember _ is going to be better than most of the other Tedford guys; I still think Joey Harrington could do something. Akili Smith and Kyle Boller wowed with their physical ability, but there's a big difference between guys like that that can throw the ball all over the place in a workout and a guy like Michael Vick or Daunte Culpepper that has an impressive workout AND has the numbers from college to back it up.