BJJ might make you a better ground fighter, but Judo will make you a better dancer.

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Dec 2005

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W. Yorks, UK

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Judo

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As long as it's used as an active, attacking position I have no problem with the hands and knees turtle. I often end up there against bigger guys, to me it's preferable to a rib crushing pin (my poor poor ribs), and there are a few good offensive options to try out.

It's the "lying on your belly wrapped up tighter than Michael Jackson's straight jacket" turtle that pisses me off, there's literally nothing to do from there except wait.