LMAO, at Collingate. What a bunch of wackos. This is isn't the Brady Bunch Hour where they bring in a new Jan.

I do think this might be K+8s final season. They've had a good run.

All that bellowing over a show that hasn't even been on in almost a year and only a handful of episodes. That's not much filming or exposure. Jon's the one who kept K+8 front and center with all his interviews (always attacking Kate). If it weren't for Jon, no one would have been paying much attention until the recent People cover.

Hope everyone had a fun trick-or-treat!

Keep up Bl, Kate had posted on IG that the show would be airing sooner. They inflate every little thing trying to prove that TLC doesn't care about its own show.

Doofus? Who says words like that? Ever notice that the ones who bellow about how Kate is so "abusive" are also the ones who so casually name call Kate and anyone who is nice to Kate?

merryway, I always thought that TLC would revisit the Gosselins periodically over the years, and I still think they'll be doing that, with a series of "specials," even if they don't do regular scheduled seasons. People care about the Gosselin kids and are happy to see how they are growing up so well.

I hope so Micha. I kind of want to see the twins graduate and know what they are planning for their future.

Over at Bls, they are trying to figure out who the guy is in the new promo. The one that Mady runs to hug at her birthday party.I'm repulsed at how one of their posters has no shame in mocking Joey Graceffa for being gay.It's a fast shot, but I do think it is youtube star Shane Dawson. He looks different with his beard. He is bisexual, so maybe they will only mock him half as much.

Ugh, those women are so mean and nasty. They are the type that I stay far far away from when attending school functions.

Yeah, it's quite a morning filled with vileness over there. More than one poster has mocked Joey Graceffa for being gay, and another one felt the need to comment on an 11 year-old's weight and note that she should have been wearing a proper bra.

Wow, another story. This one makes about as much sense as the one Jon sold saying TLC offered him 2mil to stay married.

Supposedly Kate was investigated for child abuse of Collin earlier this year when he said something at the residential program. I don't think he was at a facility earlier this year. It seems like Collin left right before school started.Why would the police be contacting Jon? Collin has no contact with Jon. If I'm not mistaken, an investigation is handled by the CPS social workers, not the police. I don't think the police are involved unless charges are brought. It sounds like another bogus overblown story. If Jon keeps up, the rest of the kids are going to stop visitation with him.

The Bl is just mad that Kate did not notify her of the exact date when the show would be aired. ROTF.

The BL continues her stupid rants about a family that could sue her in the future. She has done many nasty things to Kate and her children. Of course, Kate is the winner, she ignores the bitter Betty's in her life.

My daughter's baby, Addie is four months old today. She now weighs 9.6 and is a chunk! She came home from the hospital a month ago and seems to be thriving. She is on a heart monitor and oxygen and we all call her a miracle!

My son's baby, Ellie is three months old and is smiling and cooing. She is so laid back and is definitely daddy's girl! Oliver loves his baby sister.

Such wonderful news about Addie, Sage! I have friends whose twins were micro-preemies. The girl weighed just over 1 lb. at birth and the boy was a comparative giant at 3ish lbs. Today they are healthy and happy 13 year-olds. It is amazing what can be done in the NICU today.

Bl loves to spread rumors involving children but she doesn't think it through. She wants her followers to believe that Collin is a ward of the state.

How could Jon, the willing loving parent awaiting his children with open arms, be overlooked? If Collin needed emergency placement and/or Kate was deemed abusive or unfit, they ignored the father who would normally assume custody.Bl wants her followers to believe that CPS and the court said to Kate,"even though you abused Collin and we're taking custody, you can continue to keep him from Jon if you secretly put him in this facility for which you must pay."I guess Jon can only take emergency custody of Hannah. :)

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What did she do, go to school or work in nursing with the people that work in CPS? Something is not right. Does Colin not have the right to grow up not being abused by his mother?

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I suggested this when the news first came out, and it's pure speculation. But it's entirely possible Collin was PLACED in this facility, against her will, and is a ward of CPS. She can act all she wants like she supports it and it was a heartrending decision, but that doesn't prove that this wasn't all CPS and a judge deciding he shouldn't be in her care and needed treatment, whether she agreed. November 7, 2016 at 4:08 PM

Did anyone see the full paper article? I picked it up a few days ago. It was four pages of mostly old info.

What is Jon going to do for money? There was hardly a tabloid blink at this story. His abuse/custody stories are played through.

Sooner or later, even Bl's followers are going to have to admit that Jon has abandoned Collin to Kate's abuse or that he's being kept away from Collin by the court. Guessing that Collin went away a few weeks before school started, say July. Then, it's been four months and Jon has done nothing. Jon supposedly had an emergency hearing over Hannah last year. So, Jon just left poor Collin and the other kids out of the equation? Even though, at that time, he wouldn't have seen Collin for about a year.

Below are some direct excerpts that I didn't see elsewhere. Never fear G kids! Once again, your dad is coming to the rescue! They are all scared that they're going to be sent to a residential facility instead of their father's home. Kate's power is all kinds of awesome.

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Kate screams and yells at the kids all the time, calling them stupid and fat and degrading them.

And sometimes the kids are so wiped out because she has woken them up in the middle of the night to complete chores like cleaning the house. She'll also have them clean the chicken coup at night in the snow and clean out the dog cages when it's freezing and dark.

Jon, who works as a DJ and has been accused by Kate of being an absent dad, is tired of his kids having to suffer. So, he's gathering funds, says the source, to fight Kate for custody and to find out where Collin is being kept. "Collin being forced to leave has scared the rest of his siblings tremendously." says the source. "They live in fear that if they mess 'mess up,' they, too, will end up being sent away."

But a source says Kate has methodically tried to turn her children against their father. "She literally will reward if they don't visit Jon, and then punish them with extra chores if they do visit." claims the source.

Great news Sage, the holiday season will be very fun for you this year and many blessings to be thankful for.

As for the BL, she knows nothing and making up crazy stories about Collin makes her look very small and nothing more than a washed up lawyer with no clients. Jon would sell his dirty underwear for $ and the BL would be first in line to buy it.

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Trump is hardly the first to suggest that Hillary's actions with her email should land her in jail. It's not like he was saying you used too much TP in the Senate restroom and should go to jail. Many people provided specific examples of people sitting in jail for similar or identical acts. Yes, you do go to jail for acts like that. I'm not sure why that's Trump's fault for stating the truth.

That said, I think Obama should pardon her and let her move on with her life and do something good with what's left, and that Trump should move on from it too. Has he mentioned the email server since elected? Seems like he's not really harping on it now that he's won. ///////////////////////////////////

Some hot shot lawyer this one is. Refresher: Before Obama could pardon Hillary she would have to be CONVICTED of something.

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Trump is hardly the first to suggest that Hillary's actions with her email should land her in jail. It's not like he was saying you used too much TP in the Senate restroom and should go to jail. Many people provided specific examples of people sitting in jail for similar or identical acts. Yes, you do go to jail for acts like that. I'm not sure why that's Trump's fault for stating the truth.

That said, I think Obama should pardon her and let her move on with her life and do something good with what's left, and that Trump should move on from it too. Has he mentioned the email server since elected? Seems like he's not really harping on it now that he's won. ///////////////////////////////////

Some hot shot lawyer this one is. Refresher: Before Obama could pardon Hillary she would have to be CONVICTED of something.

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Hello, as a now-former reader at Realitytvkids, I have opposite opinions than you about Kate. They are not extreme, I don't go for all the wacky stuff posted there. But I must say I am definitely in line with this. I cannot stand the politics over there and will never go back. I will not use my former user name but just wanted to say that. Thank you.

Hello, Lonely. It is hard to stop reading. Between Redbird's wild speculation followed by declarations of a day of reckoning coming, to admin's shadow boxing or political posts, to Thesaurus Mom's many and verbose posts, it is so entertaining! But it's easy not to post.

PJ's momma said...Hello, Lonely. It is hard to stop reading. Between Redbird's wild speculation followed by declarations of a day of reckoning coming, to admin's shadow boxing or political posts, to Thesaurus Mom's many and verbose posts, it is so entertaining! But it's easy not to post.

Just because the BL passed a test, maybe with D's does not make one smart. A smart lawyer would hustle for big cases and make a name for themselves instead of spending hours each day bashing someone who wouldn't cross the street for her. She's Jon's speed, everyone else's fault.

Just because the BL passed a test, maybe with D's does not make one smart. A smart lawyer would hustle for big cases and make a name for themselves instead of spending hours each day bashing someone who wouldn't cross the street for her. She's Jon's speed, everyone else's fault.

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What do you call the person who graduated last in medical school. A: Doctor

I think ol' Tuck needs to look up "diplomatically" in that thesaurus she carries everywhere, as the last thing the BL has ever been is "diplomatic." Or maybe Tuck's thesaurus is on the fritz and it spit out "dogmatically," "disingenuously" and "obnoxiously" as synonyms for "diplomatically." *****************************************************************

Tucker's Mom said... 153Admin, you don't have to call us names. You said it all with your vote.

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Transference*******Agree, and I hope we can separate persons from their vote.

KKK endorsed TrumpKKK hate x,y,z peopleTrump hates x,y,z people.

This is fallacious and just because a woman voted for Trump doesn't mean she endorses pussy grabbing or islamophia etc. This election's nuances are going to be digested and ruminated upon for many years to come.

Admin has run this blog diplomatically for many years now. I hope we can all give her the benefit of the doubt, with tempers running very high, and come together again.That's my hope anyway ;-)

Yeah, it's a hoot watching BL kill off what's left of her blog. She said no more political discussion but Bl is controlled by her obsessive need to be right. No other opinion is acceptable so she has to reply by giving a lecture on why her way of thinking is the only way.

Not that they've ever shown much decency, ignoring the whole birth fetish site and all of Bl's lies; but they also turn a blind eye when BL attacks one of their own. What did they expect? Bl doesn't care about her posters, she only cares that they must never ever disagree with her opinion.

Yes the "never-wrong" attitude has gotten worse and worse. As far as the "birth-fetish" site, I never saw any proof that that is what it is. It's weird, but I don't know that it is for birth fetishes (never heard of such a thing until y'all said that).

BTW, I can't stand Kate, but I also don't hate her, wish her ill, or think Jon is the solution. My opinion is those kids lost everything in the parent lottery.

PJ, maybe I AM Redbird. Just kidding but you can definitely pick out her posts.

So Merryway feels she is watching BL kill off what's left of her blog 10/14/16? This blog has averaged not quite 2 comments a day.Sage must be so thankful for Merryway and PJs loyalty, without them this blog would be...well, you know!Actually Sage, you should just keep printing the previous comments each month.They never seem to change...same old, same old...well you know!!

Looks like Jon is inadvertently promoting the new season of Kate Plus 8. Just in case you didn't know the show was coming back, here's this interview with Jon on ET that's going to mention that the show returns on November 22 at 10pm. Tune in!

If it weren't to the detriment of the kids, I would love to see Kate just hand all of the kids over to Jon and see how long it would take for him to flee from the stress of raising two sixteen year olds and six twelve year olds. Jon just likes talking about getting custody, he wants people to think he's concerned for his children, but he wouldn't want to actually have that custody. And maybe 6-7 years ago people thought he might mean it, but now? Who believes that Jon really wants custody of his 8 kids and is working on making it happen? Is there one person out there that thinks that's true, and if there is, why?

All Jon has done is shown anyone who's paying attention that he's all talk, and very little else. And most of the talk is a variation of "Kate is mean and won't talk" to him. She won't tell him where Collin is? Hmmm, wouldn't a father have the right to know that? If ex-wife won't tell you, wouldn't you get a court order to get that info about your own son? Do we have to play connect the dots to figure out why Jon doesn't know where his son is? What other options are there besides that Jon doesn't really want to find out or that a court of law has decided that he doesn't have the right to know? Any other options?

Interesting. Jon's latest interview is on youtube. At 1:57 the interviewer says "Jon, who lost legal custody of his children says he has not seen Collin for a year and half."

Uhm, it was in an interview taped last December that Jon told Steve Harvey he had not seen Collin in a year and a half. Does Jon even know how long it's been since he's seen Collin?

At 2:22, the interviewer says "right now, Jon is working with an attorney hoping to regain some parental rights."

Then Jon says if he gets any right, He's not going to sign for the kids to film.

So, now Jon's saying he lost legal custody? Pretty sure, he willingly gave it up. But, either way, it looks bad on Jon. He never mentioned Kate being in contempt as he did on of those podcast interviews. Now, he's supposedly going back to regain parental rights. What he will never say is that Kate is operating within the orders of the court. I doubt very much that Kate would ever ignore court orders. It's a good way to lose your children.

Just thought I'd pop in and say I've missed you all just so much. Not as much as I miss San Diego (I'm now in Kentucky?????) but pretty darn close.

Strange that after all this time Jon is still so desperate for attention that he seems to be slipping up. Going for "more" parental rights doesn't look so good when "you gave them up to not pay child support" is the reason.

Sage many congrats on the babies! I've stopped by from time to time but my posts are always eaten by the nasty blogosphere.

There really is a sucker born every minute...************************************************Granny53 said... 132I swear to God I am about at the point to open a"Go Fund Me" account for Jon for his legal fees to free these children

Lol, I hope those goobers send lots of their cash to Jon. What a hoot.

Jon gave such a lame excuse for going to the tabloids.Below is an excerpt from his interview. In the previous paragraph, Jon says Mady now sometimes has small talk with him at the bus stop.Then, he excuses himself for selling stories and talking about the kids regardless of how Mady feels. He doesn't have a choice donchaknow.Mady is not important to Jon. The paycheck and the fun of attacking Kate which brings him publicity is all that matters to Jon.

I'm sure all this public bashing of Kate goes over well with the family judge. Also betting that Mady's small talk with Jon comes to an end.

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In a tell-all interview with People, Mady suggested that her dad "spend some time thinking about why we don’t want to see him" and "realize that if he ever does want a relationship with us, talking about us on TV is not the way to make that happen." Now, Jon responds, telling ET that "obviously" he does have to go on a TV show to have his voice heard "because no one contacts" him.

"I can't even go to the school and contact them," he says. "It's just like, I've been totally estranged from my kids. Who I, in fact, took care of when [their] mom was in the hospital with the sextuplets."

Wow, Jon wants credit for taking care of the twins while Kate had sextuplets! Does he listen to what he says, ever? Twelve years ago when Mommy wasn't available on account of being large with sextuplets in hospital, Daddy took care of you for a while, girls. It's like you don't even care that your father actually did what he was supposed to do for a while, way back when.

Why can't Jon contact his kids? Is there some court order in place forbidding it? And if so, why? I don't believe Kate overrules a court's ruling, so it must be the courts that made that decision. Why did they make that decision? Certainly not because Jon is a great guy and dad. Why not tell the whole story, Jon, and not just the part where you try to make yourself look like a victim? You know why every court ruling regarding your kids is in place. I'm sure you have the reasons, in writing.

One more tidbit. It would seem that Jon lied to a police officer.In the ET interview, Jon talked about the taking of Hannah incident(no talk of of abuse). Hannah had a fear when being dropped off to her mother's home. It was just an impossibility for Jon to discuss it with Hannah at the end of the driveway. So, he texted Kate that he was keeping Hannah.Jon never mentions obtaining an order to keep Hannah, just that mean old Kate filed a police report on him.

He sounds so innocent, doesn't he?

Except, he was guarding Hannah at school that Monday morning. Then, he called an officer wanting to know why Kate was allowed to remove Hannah from school and that he had an emergency order. (and, of course, the stories he sold about the incident.)

So, there never was an emergency order or an emergency hearing. Just more lies to sell to the tabloids bashing Kate.

Oh yeah, in my previous comment I wrote that Jon said Mady talked with him at the bus stop. That was wrong, I meant at the gate of the house.

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Jon believes that some of those issues may be a result of their relationship with Kate. He remembers a specific time when Hannah, for example, "didn't want to go home [to Kate] for some reason" when he was dropping her back off to her mother's house after a "normal custody day."

"She just didn't want to go home. She wasn't getting out of the car, she just had a fear, and I wasn't going to discuss it at the end [of the] driveway," he claims. "So Leah went down, Aiden went down and Joel went down [to the gate of Kate's house], and then I just texted Kate."

"I'm like, 'I'm taking Hannah back,'" he continues, "and of course she flipped out. So I was like, 'You know where I live, here's my address again in case you forgot it. You know you can call me.' I kept Hannah and she just explained she was really stressed out and all this stuff, so I kept her [at my house] and Kate called the cops and filed a police report against me."

1137 hrs Jonathan Gosselin called and I spoke to him by telephone. Jonathan Gosselin said that he had obtained an emergency custody order and he wanted to know why Kate was allowed to remove _______ from school. I explained to Jonathan the details of what occurred and advised him to contact his civil attorney for advice on how to proceed.

How long ago did these incidents happen? Over a year? and WHY is he sharing this private info with us now? Oh, that's right. Kate's on TV next week. He's too dense to realize that everyone has his number...

I wonder if he is trying to sabotage the show, which obviously has run its course. The timing may be calculated. The gleam and side eye he gave right before he texted was just immature. His daughters complain on TV about what he does, and then he does that. Just stop it!

I think the best way to sabotage the show is to not talk about it. That way only people who follow TLC or Kate would know the show was even airing. Now people who watch ET but don't follow Kate might have been made aware of new shows and tune in. I don't think I've seen one commercial air on TLC but the truth is I rarely watch TLC so I don't know if the show is being promoted or not.

Jon bringing all this up a week before the show is going to start airing is like free publicity. Just in case you forgot about Kate Plus 8, here's Jon complaining and saying he's going to do blah blah blah (doesn't matter what since he never really does anything) just before new episodes air. Why don't you tune in and watch, just to see what Jon is talking about? Let's see how the kids really are, and let's see what Kate is doing.

Maybe TLC will send Jon a little gift for the publicity he's generating for the new episodes.

I have seen other comments about Kate needing to prove to at least Jon that his son is still alive and safe. Who is to say that she didn't go off on him and one good clobber to the head and he's buried in the back yard. Yes, Kate is that unstable. Especially is he has been kept separated from sleeping w/ the other boys, eating and going to school w/ them. Kate makes me sick.

The reason the BL lets these kinds of comments go through is that maybe she is behind the comment using names to make posts there. Sick and twisted should really be her name. How sad that she is bashing a child, then turns around and says she is a advocate for children. I will never believe she has a real job doing anything. Law firms do not hire unstable people.

Off to travel for the Thanksgiving holiday so wishing Sage and her family and all the peeps Happy Thanksgiving. Count your blessings and enjoy the day.

Nameless, I saw that comment too. They all are really sick people. They all keep saying and have been saying for years that Kate is mentally ill. It is they that are off the rails. Way to over invested in this family. I think they fantasize about them 24/7.

Sadly, I'm not surprised someone would write that and I'm not at all surprised that BL, who picks and chooses what is on her blog, chose to allow that to be printed. They're desperate and they always have been. The one thing they don't seem capable of understanding is just how ridiculous THEY look. That's the tragedy that is their lives.

Pot. Kettle. Black. That is the mentality here. You have never even acknowledged what is right in front of your eyes. Kate is a child abusing, shrew. Maybe you should try out the therapy yourself. You need it!

People read there to let the whole world know that she is bat chit crazy and has suckers like you there who support someone who has huge issues. It's not funny what she let that post stand, sick and twisted, her apples always thud to the ground. It's not funny, but go ahead and laugh, people are embarrassed for you also.

Your opinion is not carved in stone, it is merely your opinion. It seems you think only your opinion is right, which shines a very negative light on you, the way you think, YOUR mentality. You say "child abusing shrew," so everyone is supposed to say, 'well this Anonymous says Kate is a "child abusing shrew," so we must all see it his/her way?' Nope, not the way it works, and not only do people here disagree with you, but it seems that CPS disagrees as well, since there have apparently been investigations yet Kate still has her children to raise. If they thought she was abusing her children then would she be allowed to have her children?

I think you should take your own words to heart and seek therapy for this issue you seem to have with anger and thinking that this opinion you have about Kate is indeed FACT and not merely your opinion.

Good grief, Anon, settle down,,,,you sound a tad deranged. This is what I have been talking about. You need to step away and get Kate and the kids off of your mind. Not mentally healthy for you....walk away.

Oh my, the crazy is coming out of the woodwork over there. I remember Just Wondering! Check out her harrowing tale of telling Kate off at an event. She makes it sound like she had a plan to escape from the Nazis. The glory days of her work as a child advocate, fraught with peril!

********************************** just wondering said... 24She blathered on like she didn't hear me and old Rat Claws was coming for me. Everyone looked at me like I was crazy & there was gasping all around.

Steve began to grab my elbow & I told him not to touch me. This event was being held in Century Center in South Bend, Indiana and I was the event manager there for many years back in the 80's. I knew every tunnel in that facility. Fat chance he'd be able even find me.

Kate heard me. She looked right at me. This was right after some People interview about how she said the worst thing anyone could say about her was that she was a Bad Mom. So I decided to call her on it.

Several other women around me also started saying "Bad Mom" as Steve was approaching me & he was startled. He let go of me and began throwing looks to other women around me.

Some of this was on youtube for awhile but it was taken down within weeks.

Kate kept speaking as if nothing had happened, but everyone heard & I received a few 'atta girl's' when I left. This is a polite community & most of us come from families who settled here back in the early 1800's. Before South Bend even had a name.

I'd be damned if I was going to let her preach her lack of mothering skills in MY town without some interference.

I guess it's a good thing I didn't work there anymore because I would have been fired. I still would have done it, though.

It's so mean how BL spreads rumors about a child. She is a hideous trying to twist things to fit her agenda. Truly disgusting.

BL is saying that CPS completely ignored Jon in this process. If Jon is allowed un-supervised visitation with Collin, he would be the choice of placement.If Jon is allowed any type of visitation with Collin, he would be able to procure visitation through CPS. All he would need to do is produce the court order showing his rights.

Bl's saying CPS considers Kate abusive of Collin, it's not safe for him to be in his home. But, they collaborated with Kate to hide Collin from Jon.

It's sick how they want these children to be abused to they can hate on Kate.

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I'm calling it. CPS made her send Collin away or they were going to detain him and involve the courts. This had nothing to do with what she wanted and was certainly not her idea of how to cope with this. He was removed by them under what we call a family maintenance plan, which is just one informal step away from the judge brandishing you a child abuser. November 21, 2016 at 6:07 AM

Jon bringing all this up a week before the show is going to start airing is like free publicity. Just in case you forgot about Kate Plus 8, here's Jon complaining and saying he's going to do blah blah blah (doesn't matter what since he never really does anything) just before new episodes air ~Micha-

Nameless, I remember Just wondering and I think I remember what she is talking about. I believe I called her out on it at the time and it was a made up lie. I seem to remember her saying she worked at Notre Dame and that also was a proven lie.

The stupid is burning bright over at Bl's.Bl just can't get a grip that Kate's acting within court orders. (She's talking about a bit in a clip of this season where Kate asks the kids who is going to Jon's.)

Anyone else think Jon won't have this new attorney for very long? They tend to disappear if they're not getting paid.

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Well the good news is now there's video evidence she lets the kids decide the visits instead of just taking them as she should. That would be damning evidence in my court. You're in contempt, done. ...

Wait, so BL is against the kids the deciding whether they want to see their father? She thinks they should be forced to go whether they want to or not? To hell with their feelings, just drop them all off with Jon?

Does she think the courts would force kids of that age to see their dad no matter what? What kind of "lawyer" is this woman?

I haven't seen the new episode. But, isn't Bl talking about a reveal that was in the show? A show that was filmed last Winter with Collin? It would seem that Kate got rid of the chickens well before Collin left this Summer.

Bl's left the word "narcissist" behind. Her new push is "mentally ill."

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The chickens really seemed to "belong" to Collin. I'm sorry but I think she is punishing this child for all this. Spilling it all to the press, throwing him and the service providers under the bus flat out accusing them of lying about abuse. And now, the chickens. She got rid of his chickens to teach him a lesson. She is cold, and mentally ill. November 23, 2016 at 8:46 AM

I had taped and watched the show today and I didn't hear anything about the chickens.

I don't get how Kate called Collins providers liars. I beleive she is talking about the interview that was on GMA. What I got out of it Kate was talking about all the nut freaks that call CPS on her all the time.

So Kate and the kids did the mannequin challenge which is a online thing that went viral sometime late last month. She tweeted it on Twitter and one of those crazy haters really accused Kate of "plagarizing" the concept from the people of that show Outdaughtered. How out of touch do you have to be to not know that this challenge has been by THOUSANDS already and have used the same music? If you're gonna check Kate for being "unoriginal" then at least come correct first. Might as well check everyone else who used the same concept *rolls eyes*

Kendall, I laughed at that! I don't even have kids and am well aware of the mannequin challenge. It's been around for weeks. I also laughed at Redbird's outrage over the $1800 of shoes that Kate grifted into a school shop. They were Nine West and marked $69.99 or something similar, which is right on target for that brand. Too funny!

Hope everyone enjoyed a wonderful day yesterday and enjoys a good weekend. 🦃

So I guess in the name of being unoriginal we should call out "Outdaughtered" for having a show about multiples...are they copying Kate? And they couldn't even go all the way and have twins and sextuplets, they were down a couple kids, having one and then 5. Those copycats.

I kid, of course. They look like a sweet family and wish them all the best.

When it comes to that, they're just looking for something to get mad at. She clearly hash tagged "mannequin challenge" so if they were smart they should've clicked on it to see that many other videos had the same concept with the same music. How dumb...

They are so stupid at Becks yet they are so full of themselves. Because Collin is having his issues attended too they make it sound like Kate had him hidden away in an 18th century institution. They have no idea how stupid this makes them all sound.

And whats with calling the kids by only their first initial? We know who they are and doing that proves what?

Hmmm, wasn't Just Wondering from Canada and didn't attend any book signing? It's a fantasy and made up story if the old facts about her are true. Of course, just wondering. :)

I also doubt CS was involved with anything to do with Collin. I would think a team was involved, doctors, teachers, Kate, etc. to find him some special help at this time. Jon hadn't seen Jon for over 2 years, so a court made that decision for him, not Kate. Can't believe a failed lawyer would put out such nonsense on a failed blog. I also wonder if CPS is contacted by Jon because the courts told him NO!

Your "definition" of "child abuse" doesn't seem to match that of the authorities who have supposedly observed Kate's parenting. Indeed the people who have actually been there seem to have decided that Kate's parenting is acceptable, while Jon doesn't even merit the right to know where one of his children is getting treatment.

But they must be wrong and you must be right. After all, you watched them on TV for years, so you know best.

No need for you to be "self aware" as long as you are aware that you have no say in what happens to the Gosselin kids and the people that do have a say apparently have said that Kate is the parent in charge. You can handle that, can't you? I sure hope so. For your sake.

Anonymous said...None so blind as those who will not see. What does it take? A death to convince you she is a child abuser.

SheepleGet a lifeYou watch TV as well.&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&Perhaps you can explain to us why you know more than the professionals working for child protective services. I guess they're all a bunch of "sheeple" too, right?

Micha, no need to worry. I know I can't help the G kids. I am not a child advocate but I do feel very badly for how these kids have been subjected to the worst mother possible. if you would all step back from worshipping at her throne you might see her more clearly. Oh, wait, you won't do that because you think you are always right. Gotcha.

nameless, she has been turned in multiple times. Oh but wait, you could never believe or admit that is true. Sad, very sad that you are so wrapped up in such a loser. There are so many good and wonderful things out there than trying to shore up Kate G.

Anon, get a grip. Worst mother possible? Really. You really don't see do you? Just because a bunch of hysterical hateful people on twitter call CPS does not make Kate the devil. You think because you see her in an edited TV show you know what goes on. Each one of you make a scenario in your mind and are influenced what the next nut case says and it becomes your reality. You all build off of each others hate and dysfunction and at the center is Kate.

Maybe none of us 'see' what you see is that we don't read every tweet and obsess about it. Here is what is the known truth....despite all the calls to CPS and Jon's threats to take Kate to court for years. Kate is the sole legal custodian of the kids. Kate makes the decisions for the kids. Kate is the one who has physical custody of the kids. Kate is the one raising the kids. Period.

Anonymous said...nameless, she has been turned in multiple times. Oh but wait, you could never believe or admit that is true. Sad, very sad that you are so wrapped up in such a loser. There are so many good and wonderful things out there than trying to shore up Kate G.**************************And to the public's knowledge, none of those referrals have been substantiated. Hence, my question: Why do you know more than the professionals who evaluate the child abuse referrals? Not sure how that very logical question makes me "so wrapped up in such a loser." I'm not trying to shore up anyone, but I have this pesky habit of liking to deal in facts. Here's a fact for you: Being turned in to CPS doesn't mean squat in and of itself. I can pick up a phone right now and anonymously report some random celebrity for child abuse. That doesn't mean that said random celebrity actually is a child abuser. That determination is made by professionals, not by people who think they are experts by virtue of watching a family on TV.

It may be an 'edited' show but her behavior is not edited. The reality is she screams, screeches, berates them, among other things, all the time. For your info, I do not do Twitter, never have, have no desire to. And you don't know for a fact that it was anyone from Twitter, you are just making it your reality by stating that. I have no scenario in my mind about Kate other than what I have seen with my own eyes. I don't need others to determine what I see or how I feel. I don't think Jon is some kind of saint, but neither is he the devil. You guys seem to think he is the cause of everything that has happened, therefore you have built this scenario about him and you all jump on that and go with it. There really isn't much difference, just one side or the other.

Nameless, 'None of it has been substantiated to my knowledge' -- same thing you say over and over. The deal is We Don't Know just how many times she has been turned in or if they are substantiated. For all you or anyone else knows, she may have a file that is ongoing. I don't know that but neither do you. Everyone throws around suppositions and expect everyone else to agree here as well as the other site. I certainly do not proclaim to be a professional. I just know what I have seen with my own eyes, whether edited or not.

Kate IS the one raising the kids because she has turned those kids against their father. You excuse her for that, there is no good enough excuse for that. What she has done to Collin is abhorrent. I will never forget hearing that little boy say, I wish I could hug Mommy but she won't let me. I heard that, unedited.

If Kate were such a bad mother...why did Jon give up legal custody? Jon for years has said publicly he is taking Kate to court yet he signs away legal custody.

Jon willingly and legally gave up his right to Kate. You cannot blame the kids for that.

No one knows what the situation is with Collin and it is cruel to state on twitter and at Becks scenarios where Kate has him buried in the back yard to Collin killed the chickens. What kind of wackos are you people?

You all self righteously claim to care for the kids. No you don't. If you did you would stop with this bullshit.

What I am stating is fact, whether you like it or not. We have no information to indicate that any of the child abuse accusations were substantiated. If you want to play the supposition game, then maybe I'll run around the Internet claiming that Jon is a child abuser. We don't know that he doesn't have an active file, so why not? While I'm on the subject, I think I'll accuse you of child abuse. For all I know, you have a CPS file 6 inches thick.

I have not seen Kate abuse the children with my own eyes. I don't always agree with her parenting, but disagreeing with someone's parenting and accusing them of child abuse are two entirely different things. And if the child abuse is SO obvious, then answer Sage's question: Why did Jon give up legal custody of his children to a woman he knew was abusing them?

O Sage, you really need to get your anger under control. I have never said, nor would I, that Kate buried Collin in the backyard. That sounds like something Redbird, Golly Gee et al. would say. I haven't said Collin killed the chickens. Ridiculous. I've said before I am no child advocate. They are being crazy to think anything they say or do could make a difference with someone elses kids.

As for the legal custody vs. whatever custody, the fact that she has this custody does not mean she has the right to keep them from their Dad. As far as the CS, you believe what Kate says, I believe Jon. Neither of us know the exact truth.

Why turn so nasty nameless? No, I am no child abuser and I have no file with CPS. My kids are grown and have my precious grandchildren. I have never accused you of being any abuser or being reported to CPS. But I guess someone who defends a known child abuser would be much more likely to be a child abuser themselves.

Why turn so nasty nameless? No, I am no child abuser and I have no file with CPS. My kids are grown and have my precious grandchildren. I have never accused you of being any abuser or being reported to CPS. But I guess someone who defends a known child abuser would be much more likely to be a child abuser themselves. ******************I wasn't remotely nasty. I was making a point, one that clearly was totally lost on you. I'll try one more time: Your argument is that we don't know if Kate has an active child abuse file. Using YOUR logic, we don't know if Jon does either or whether you do. And yes, by the same logic, you don't know if I do or Sage does, etc. Let's just attach the child abuser label to everyone and make them disprove it. That's YOUR argument, not mine. I was not accusing you of child abuse. Get a grip.

It's not that I "think I'm always right," it's more that I believe that the people who have supposedly investigated Kate and Jon and have made the decision that she the one who is fit to care for them and see that she is not abusing her kids. That is why she has them in her custody. If Jon could ever prove otherwise, what's he waiting for? What's taking him so long?

When you (or anyone) makes comments like this:

I am not a child advocate but I do feel very badly for how these kids have been subjected to the worst mother possible.

you sound absolutely biased and ridiculous, and really so much worse than just these two mild words that I've chosen to use to describe you. "Subjected to the worst mother possible?" Really? You've really sheltered yourself from the reality of what kind of terrible people there are out there if you think that Kate is the "worst mother possible." Pick up a newspaper now and then, google articles about what's going on in the world today and how some parents treat their kids and then maybe you'll rethink that statement. But then again, maybe not. Your bias seems to run very deep.

There is no "worshipping" of Kate. There is no "throne." What would there be to "worship?" A mother of 8 doing what she can to raise her kids to the best of her ability? She's no "supermom" and I doubt that many people think that she is.

There are people who know how difficult it is to raise children, whatever the number. Kate is who she is. She's doing her best. What else can she do? I'm sure most people who watch her show and don't judge her still think it would be great if she could learn to be patient and not so high strung. She has said she wished she was more patient and less high strung. But as I said, she is who she is. She's doing what she can. It's what we all do in life. What we can. I think her kids see her for who she is and accept her. Many people also see her for who she is and accept her. They want the best for her and her kids. Is that wrong? She's who they've got, and they're all going to have to do their best together.

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Yes, it looks like the 10-year thing was supposed to be a special, and the actual season starts on Tuesday. Hard to tell since TLC is practically ignoring the fact that the show exists. So there will be 3 trips, 2 birthdays, and new puppies. Throw in some shopping and another looking back episode, and that's it. Same as every other season except for the puppies. Snore./////////////////////////////////////////////////

Then don't watch it! Problem solved.

I just don't understand how one can be so obsessed with a show they hate and a person they hate.

Kate IS the one raising the kids because she has turned those kids against their father.

Oh, that's why she has custody of the kids? Because she's convinced the kids that she's better than their father even though she is allegedly "abusive" and the "worst possible mother?" That doesn't make sense. How did she manage that trick of being abusive and the "worst possible mother" and yet was able to turn them against their father? If she was really as bad as you claim to think she is I'd think they'd be running to Jon and insisting to stay with him, permanently. If they begged Jon to be able to stay with him then surely he'd go to court and do everything he could to make it happen, wouldn't he? I doubt anyone's begging him to stay with him and he doesn't seem to do much to get that custody agreement modified in any way. It's much more likely that Jon's actions turned some of the kids against him, not Kate.

Also, the kids aren't Family Court. It's family court that has decided who has custody and why they have custody. And again it's most likely that Jon's actions, behavior, lack of income had more to do with why Kate is the parent with custody and nothing to do with anything Kate said. The courts looked at Jon's ability as a parent and Kate's ability and they made a decision about who gets custody and who gets visits.

Anonymous, where I differ from you is that I trust the CPS workers and family court involved in the case. I believe they see what we have seen plus a whole lot more and have not yanked the kids from Kate's house. They have not awarded Jon custody or put the kids in foster care. And I believe they would if there was real evidence of child abuse.

More importantly I think you are incredibly naive if you think Kate is the worst mother in the world. You are completely discounting the kids who don't get feed or have warm clothing, not due to poverty, but because their mother is so drugged out she really isn't caring for them. You haven't seen the kids whose mothers make no effort to see that they get to school. You haven't seen the kids who end up in the emergency room because their mother lets a boyfriend or husband beat them up.

You need to get some perspective on both mothering and suffering- the Gosselin kids have a nice home, are well fed and clothed, go to a good school, etc due to their mother. Kate may not be Cariol Brady but she is far from the worst mother in the world. By saying so, you lose all credibility.

I watched the show. It was my favorite so far.The kids and Kate are a typical loving family. In spite of the previews, Kate has mellowed.It was sweet how Kate created a special time in the morning for her and the two boys. Joel and Aaden get up early and help make lunches for school. The boys like it because they get their mom to themselves and can talk without all the girls around.The ones that went shopping were a great help. There was a ton of stuff, I was impressed with the order they used to put it all away.Cara was more talkative on the couch.I was surprised at how much work they did the building the igloo. The younger kids loved it and talked about how fun it was. Didn't see Cara at that time. Mady wanted to play, but the twins had a blizzard day where they do the school work at home.I can't believe the lists and labels they use; lists for lunches, lists for their supply of drygoods/groceries, lists, lists.

So once again, Anonymous is trying to convince everyone that Kate is an abuser. Sounds more like maybe Anonymous was abused and is here trying to sell her sob story for attention. Does anonymous have a name, could be more than one of the failed blog posting here.

Also, how would anonymous know of any court filings which both Jon and Kate requested that they be sealed. Someone is blowing smoke and the smell from her is getting pretty thick, unless anonymous may be getting fed lies from Jon. LOL.

Not a good start to leak it to the press.What a bunch of hooey! How is Jon is going to request all those psych evals? Those aren't freebies handed out by the court, they're costly. As if Jon has that kind of money.

How often do the people at Bl's think the courts revisit custody?Such a deja vu. This is the same bs he was spouting back in 2014.

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"The judge is ordering psychological evaluations of all eight kids and for both Kate and Jon before heading to trial,” the source continued. “Jon hopes the judge will meet with all the kids privately in his chambers, without Kate, to find out [the truth] and what they really want.”

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Huh. Exactly how I said we would handle this here. This sounds credible. It's what I would ask for. Yes psyche on the kids and Jon too. Only thing I would say is I'm not sure talking to the judge is all that helpful when kids are being coached and alienated. A better course I think is to provide them a child's attorney who can really spend time getting to know them and the situation. Also a therapist who has experience with alienation would be excellent. But this is positive nonetheless. November 30, 2016 at 8:01 AM

Usually, the person requesting the action must pay. Also, at this stage of the game, I doubt the court would put the kids through a psych eval. The norm would be for this to be occurring during the initial divorce proceedings, then costs could possibly be shared. Since Jon is bringing the motion and there's really no new cause or extreme change, Jon would carry the cost. Especially, since he's either given up or lost rights. The court isn't going to ignore that.

Jon could motion for Kate to pay. But, again, he's bringing the change and without good reason, it's very very very doubtful that a judge would order Kate to do so.As my attorney told me, "don't motion it unless you want to pay for it."The cost is all on Jon.Jon's just using the kids to line his pockets with story money.

According to InTouch he's trying for "joint custody." Not full custody, just the amount of custody he probably should have had since the divorce but for some reason, doesn't. What's the reason? I know the rumored reason (that he gave up joint custody and in return he doesn't have to pay child support), and if that is the actual reason, what's a Judge going to think of that?

If all the kids could have a cordial relationship with their dad, I don't think that would be a bad thing. I think the ones who see him just accept him for who he is and don't have expectations about him being something that he's not. If Jon's really actually doing something significant after years of saying he's going to, that's good. I think the courts will continue to do what they determine is in the best interests of the kids.

The great Beckspert speaks! She may be 99% convinced that Collin has been placed against his mother's will, but I am 100% convinced that she is full of crap. Newsflash, moron. Children with severe emotional problems are placed in treatment all the time...BY THEIR PARENTS. There doesn't have to be any involvement from child protective services. The BL is way too egotistical and narcissistic to understand that dealing in child abuse does not make her an expert on treatment for emotionally disturbed children, a large percentage of whom have not been abused. ******************************Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 14

Sounds like a good fleecing is brewing. There have been a handful of watershed moments on this show where she lost a whole bunch of otherwise loyal fans. I'm glad for the fans that many of them are recognizing despite the benefit of the doubt that this just doesn't smell right. Good, it shouldn't.

I am about 99% convinced he has been "placed" against her will. It would explain why he would be there for so long, and why her visitation appears to be somewhat limited. The limited visits might very well be because it's in his best interest to not be constantly disrupted by her instability, the things she says to him, etc., and not because she won't go as often as a loving mother would. Often, I advocate for less frequent but longer-hour visits for a mentally unstable child when the parent's presence deregulates them to the point where it takes them days to get back on track. In the meantime, the parent does therapy to try to learn how to control themselves around their child. Most states have kids placed in six month spurts, with the courts reviewing the placement every six months and deciding whether the child should go home or continue the six months. Of course you can always bring it back to court if something significant changes in the meantime. Very few placements this intensive are going to go this long without a placement order. Unless the issues are truly very serious, and I just don't see it in this case.

It's so upsetting that there is speculation about Colin's whereabouts and the conditions that put him there. It's bad enough that he has been separated from his family - speculation and armchair analysis are just cruel. Rosie O'Donnell caught hell for suggesting the Trump son is autistic, and rightfully so. They are kids. Even if their parents put them in the spotlight, they should be left alone. Nobody but the parents have insight, and that's the way it should be. It's really sad.

Rosie O'Donnell did NOT suggest that Trumps son was autistic. Rosie saw a video on utube that someone took and it showed Barron with presumably autistic symptoms. Rosie merely stated, if it were true, what a great opportunity to bring the Autism epidemic to the forefront. Rosie also said her daughter was autistic. Try and keep up!

The cold truth is that since Kate has opened up part of her life to the public, people are going to speculate, and talk and talk and analyse and guess cruelly and callously about any little thing in Kate's life, including the kids. Are any of the people who hate Kate suddenly going to be kind about something that is troubling her, like the situation with Collin? I wouldn't bet on it. The people who are being cruel entertain each other, but whatever they are thinking and saying doesn't count at all, except to them.

Rosie O'Donnell can be called a "Trump hater," I think it's fair to guess that she has an intense dislike for Donald Trump, so anything she says, even if she says it's with good intent, about his young child...there's going to be an element of meanness that people could and should read into that. It's none of her business, it's not for her to say, even if she can claim that her intentions are good and she can pull her kids into the conversation by saying one of them has been diagnosed as "autistic," there's an element of provocation there. She's trying to provoke Trump, not trying to be kind to anyone. And she can backtrack and explain but all she's done is make herself look bad. No explanation is going to erase the history between her and Trump, and if she really had that child's best interests in mind, she wouldn't have added to what was already out there, regarding Barron Trump.

Anonymous, Rosie's words were 'Barron Trump autistic? If so, what a great opportunity...' and she attached the video. This is cruel and unnecessary in my opinion. It is not her responsibility to plant the seed.

Yeah, when Bl posts a pic of the kids, she blanks out the faces of the kids "to give them their privacy back." Meanwhile, they're gossiping, lying and badmouthing the same kids. Bl never gives them the same consideration she gave Jon, she used to pull out that he was just a private guy so he shouldn't be mentioned.

Why doesn't Tucker's Mom hold Jon accountable for not waking the f*&k up? What did he do for Collin when Collin was in Kindergarten? He had joint legal then, that's why he got letters from the school that ended up on Radar. Jon ran to the tabloids and sold the story. Then, he gave up legal custody. He wasn't worried about Collin. He was too busy selling stories about how Kate wanted him in jail for child support when the court had already let Kate take on the full responsibility.

All they talk about is how the kids are suffering. But, Jon didn't come to the rescue with his Couples Therapy money. He blew it all and got evicted. Jon's not worried about his kids. Because at the end of the day, Jon knows Kate is going to be the responsible adult who takes care of their needs and tends to them.

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Pants on Fire said... 30 ***** Thank you. I agree Colin's symptoms have been ignored and minimized for years by Kate. When your child gets kicked out of kindergarten for physically harming people, it's time to wake the f*&k up. I just think that Kate's decisions are always driven by saving her brand and continuing filming the kids. She's been able to get away with it for years. December 1, 2016 at 5:46 AM

They have no idea what Kate has been doing to help all her kids for the many years that Kate and Jon have been divorced. Just because they haven't seen it in an episode or heard about it in gossip rags doesn't mean nothing is being done. Spreading out and out lies is the strength of these loons, but it's common knowledge that Alexis and Collin were having issues in school long ago and they were dealt with and the kids went back to school eventually.

These armchair analysts really need a reality check. They are the ones who "wake the f*&k up" and stop with the half truths and stop thinking they know what's best for those kids. Bunch of know it alls who don't know the half of it. They are absurd.

Jon will always sell a story for a few bucks concerning his kids. After everything he has done and gave up legal custody to never pay cs again, the court will laugh him out the door. You can refuse any test that the other party wants until it's proven to the court why they would need it. With Jon's record of not seeing his kids, many gf's in and out, flying all over the country, back taxes and bills, no stable jobs for years, I sure wouldn't push my luck with any court, he might just end up in jail himself. Jon can't demand chit to the court. OMG, that lawyer blog is laughable.

What do the core crazy haters (all five of 'em) want anyone to say about Collin? Hope he's getting what he needs? Hope he's okay? What else can anyone say? Leave it to the crazy Kate haters who will speculate the worst and go on and on about it. That's their thing. They've got nothing else to do and it seems to make them very happy to think the worst, poor desperate for help people that they are.

What I see is a stressed out woman (Kate) who can't help but be that OCD person that she knows she is, and 8 kids who are growing up beautifully, are lovely and articulate and intelligent and sassy and know all about their mom's behavior and are often seen joking about it both to her face and while being interviewed - that includes Collin - although right now Collin is away getting some help for whatever his issues are. Anyone who sees doom and gloom, I think you're most likely projecting your own heart onto the Gosselin family, and that is sad. It's never too late to get help for that. Why don't you? Invest in you.

I don't see much of Jon except for when he pops up to complain about his lack of relationship with some of the kids, and vows to go to get some sort of custody - joint custody. Last I've heard he's taken a step in that direction. The direction towards sharing custody with his ex-wife, apparently he doesn't have even THAT, and they've been divorced for 6-7 years!

One step in how many years? Some people are really slow moving, but if you move too slowly when it comes to your kids, they'll be adults before you accomplish anything.

The whole get therapy is just a LOL. Is this coming from a lawyer who has stalked the G family for years? The few on twitter seem to have all day and night to post crap, while the rest of the world works, involved with their kids, grandkids, running their own business, etc.

I don't read the trash mags, read that blog, but you do see a few tweets here and there. I'm so glad they have someone to compete with on twitter and a hate blog, it's a full time job for most of them.

Too bad you can't prove the birth fetish crap. No way do you know that for a fact.

As for crazy haters, you are the crazy ones. Supporting Kate while the evidence just keeps on growing. As if you guys are so super smart that you have the right to shine a light on anyone.

It is amusing to come here and see what your defending this time Oh that's right, it's Kate and what a great, stressed out Mom she is. Oh, and the kids are growing up beautifully? OMG, all the screaming and fighting and the possibility that Colin has been abused for so long he is in a mental facility, then I am ever so glad I don't know any of you. What your own homes are like is unimaginable.

I'm glad you can find some amusement somewhere because you sound like an absolute misery.

Yes, the kids are growing up beautifully. They are normal kids who fight and are growing up in an environment where they feel secure enough to express their feelings. That's great. Have you ever met a kid? Any kid? Not a kid from some TV sitcom or drama, a real flesh and blood child? You seem to live in a fantasy land where siblings get along and never have a bad word to say about anything or about each other. That sounds like a lovely little fantasy world, but reality is so different, as seen on the reality TV show, Kate Plus 8. You know, this show that you and yours disparage but have also memorized every tiny bit of. Yes, that show.

If we're condemning people based on the "possibility" that they may have done something wrong, I guess that means you should be condemned for definitely judging someone without all the facts. You even admit this alleged abuse is just a "possibility," and not a fact, and yet your anger about Kate Gosselin shines through.

You create a lot of misery for yourself thinking about possibilities instead of accepting facts. The fact is Kate has custody of 8 children and Jon has only just taken action to get JOINT custody of those children. His goal isn't to take the kids away from this alleged abuser. If Kate was in fact an "abuser" wouldn't Jon want more than just joint custody? Do you ever think about these facts that are presented as facts, and not possibilities?

It doesn't matter, of course, since your thoughts and feelings change nothing for the Gosselins. What do these thoughts do for you? It seems that they give you purpose. Can you imagine the possibilities in your own life if you let go of this anger for Kate? If you trust Jon to do what's best for his kids then it seems that all he thinks is best is that the kids remain with Kate and he gets equal time. Ooh, Jon to the "rescue." I guess he doesn't think they need to be rescued. What could that possibly mean?

Anonymous, what your home must be like is the question.My grandkids squabble,and I hate to admit this but sometimes they eat off of paper plates (I know the horror).They also write their mom notes telling her she's a great mommy,and we don't analyze them for authenticity, I guess we are naive like that.You and your fellow haters want to be right so bad that you are holding your breath in anticipation of one of the kids failing so you can blame Kate.When Sage says seek therapy you should really heed her advice.

Anonymous, what your home must be like is the question.My grandkids squabble,and I hate to admit this but sometimes they eat off of paper plates (I know the horror).They also write their mom notes telling her she's a great mommy,and we don't analyze them for authenticity, I guess we are naive like that.You and your fellow haters want to be right so bad that you are holding your breath in anticipation of one of the kids failing so you can blame Kate.When Sage says seek therapy you should really heed her advice.

My home is happy, I am not fixated on Kate and rarely (compared to most) even read the blogs. I just find it interesting that both sides remain the same ad infinitum. And Micha, you are the one who must have the miserable home. Sure, kids fight and make a lot of noise, no question. BUT, the difference is, the adult usually puts a halt to that before it gets out of control.

Have fun chickies, one of these days you will be forced to open your eyes to the truth. Even though I doubt you will admit it.

What you view as anger is not even close. Anger is reserved for things that deserve it. And for your information, I have met Kate. I don't even hate Kate. I actually pity her. I feel very sorry for her kids, they deserve so much more.

LOL with the way you throw the anger card around if anyone doesn't defend Kate.

Sure you do, Anonymous. You sound like a breath of fresh air and a well adjusted person who presumes the worst about a woman instead of acknowledging the facts. Why deal in facts when you can make up the worst scenarios and talk about them over and over again? Why see that Jon doesn't want full custody of his kids for a reason when you can ignore that and call Kate an abuser? Every alleged investigation into Kate's parenting turned up nothing and Jon is in no rush to get his kids out of Kate's house, but you know better. After all, you met Kate. So you must know better than all these people, right? Sure.

Perfectly normal and well adjusted, you are.

If there's something to see it will be seen. The denial game is your thing. You deny the facts in favor of the thinking the worst. You seem to thrive on it. And no doubt you are in denial about the denial.

Yeah, but you don't need any help. That's all perfectly normal and well adjusted behavior. Have fun with that.

Good grief, if anyone is angry and living in denial it is you! As for Jon, I have no idea what he is doing or will do. I do not think he is all that and a bag of chips. He's made tons of mistakes but for Kate to keep Colin away from Jon and put him in therapy without telling him was cruel. You can hate Jon all you want, but he is not responsible for everything that has gone wrong. Oh well, none so blind as they say. Go on and watch Kate, she's on TV right now.

And what, pray tell, would be the 'facts' that I should acknowledge? Your version of the 'facts'? Sure and what is so funny is you think we all say the same things again and again and you do the very same thing, over and over. You have no idea or proven fact that Kate has been cleared of all charges against her. There is no way you know any more than any of the rest of us. I don't know and you don't know.

As for a breath of fresh air, I'm sure you have the corner on the market on that. LOL!! I'm pretty normal because I don't care if Kate stays on TV for the rest of her life. I'm only around when she gets herself in the news again. Not the Jon got her there, but her. Then when things settle down I go right on with my normal life without even thinking about Kate. Believe me or not, I don't care.

Please find me one person here who has said they want Kate to stay on TV for the rest of her life. I, for one, haven't even seen an episode this season. The ones who desperately want Kate to remain on TV are your friends at the BL's. They dissect every second of footage. What would the lawyer do with her time if she couldn't spend her vacation writing her ridiculous recaps that are longer than the shows themselves? What would Tucker's Mom do if she didn't spend hours a day on that blog? (Maybe she'd spend even more time memorizing her thesaurus.)

You know what Nameless? I agree with most of what you said. But first off, I guess I do talk a lot.

I didn't say anyone here wanted Kate to stay on TV, I just said I don't care if she does or not. It doesn't affect me one way or the other.

And yes, they do dissect every second of footage, Becks is online way too often but I do think she knows the law and that she works in family law and therefore can say a few things that make sense. I despise her recaps. They are just absurdly long. Tucker's is just funny with her words she tries to impress with and the fact that she is always online.. But by far, the worst is GollyGee/Redbird and all the rest of her aliases. Her suppositions are always beyond the pale.

We are not a Kate fan site. I'm with nameless, I haven't watched an episode either. None of us knows what is going on with Collin or for that matter with Jon and Kate. What we do know is Kate has full legal and physical custody and that says something.

Becks did have a birth fetish site. We had links to it years ago and it is now cleaned up. We have talked about this for years. Becks has never mentioned it...not even in denial. Ask her and see what response you get.

Becks is not what she wants all of you to think. She REALLY does need therapy.

I don't hate Jon, and what's gone wrong? ONE of Jon and Kate's 8 kids has some issue, we don't know what it is, and he's away getting help. Sounds like someone's doing something right, because a kid needs help and he's getting help. Is that "wrong" in some way? Every kid is different, not every family can have the good fortune to have 8 kids and have all those kids be well. That's life, that's Kate's life with her kids, and she's doing what she can.

I'm glad that Jon is finally (allegedly) doing more than just talk about what he wants for his kids. It's been too many years of Jon saying he's going to do something. Now he apparently is doing something. It's interesting that the "something" that he is doing is just going to court to get equal time with the kids. He doesn't seem to think the kids are in urgent need of being rescued from their mother. If he wants an equal say in what they do, honestly I don't know why it hasn't always been that way. What did he do to lose that right and what is he doing now that makes him think he can get that right back? What's changed? I don't know, but we'll see - maybe, if this all actually goes to court.

You are seriously asking what are the facts? Really, you need to have that typed out again, you can't just read what I typed already? You did read it, you just won't acknowledge it. Is going in circles some sort of sport for you? It's in two previous comments I wrote. Go back and read them or don't. Whichever.

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but for Kate to keep Colin away from Jon and put him in therapy without telling him was cruel

This is a prime example of your ignorance. You have no idea what's going on, you don't know why Kate has kept the information from Jon you just assume that no matter what, Jon "deserves" to know where Collin is. If Kate can do this it's because some court has made it so. If a court of law decides that Kate doesn't have to tell Jon where Collin is, then who are you to say otherwise, who is anybody to say otherwise? The courts have all the pertinent facts, you have your speculation and your uninformed opinion, apparently that all parents should know where their kids are regardless of what kind of custody they've had of those kids, or what relationship they've had. You're generalizing because it suits your frame of mind, which seems to be Jon is a victim, and Kate is wrong. There couldn't be any legitimate reason for Jon not to have any access to Collin? The courts disagree with you, but of course you're still right, courts are wrong, even though they must have access to information, doctor's reports, assessments, and you don't.

Yeah, no therapy for you. You know everything.

Are things not "settled down" somehow? What's not settled, really? Things are pending for Jon, but what's there to think about? Is Jon and Kate affecting your life in some way right now? You're interested in something about these people, that's why you're here. You could just as easily read about whatever new information comes out once it's released. Just wait and go on without your speculating and badmouthing Kate for her parenting. You like to think about Kate and what you think might be going on with her, and you like to talk about it. You're using this "situation" as your excuse, when you don't need one.

I did watch last night's episode and the kids were funny, they seemed to have a great time - including Collin. They did volunteer work. They visited a place that had some interesting bugs, where Kate embarrassed them by freaking out - which, (whether a hater wants to acknowledge or not) is typical preteen and teen behavior. They went to etiquette class, and their "teacher" said they were already quite well informed about etiquette. They ate beignets and had a nice meal where they demonstrated some of their new found knowledge of "etiquette," and even ate snails, which I thought surprising since it's not exactly typical American cuisine.

It was a great episode, and I'm sure that the well balanced people who saw the episode will say so, while any miserable people who watched every moment of it will find a way to say that the kids perfectly miserable, even though they had fun and experienced new things.

Oh, I've read your 'facts' Micha. I don't believe I've called you ignorant. So, even though the rules say all points of view are welcome, that must not be so. The 'fact' is no one knows the inner workings of their lives. You don't know mine but you accuse me of being ignorant and that obviously I can't read and comprehend things. Not so, we just have different opinions and viewpoints. You, on the other hand, won't even consider that Kate is in the wrong here, that she has been keeping Colin from Jon and even though yes, she does have custody, not disputing that at all, but even then that doesn't mean the other parent has no rights at all. I will say that I have no idea what Jon is trying to do. You're right, so far it sounds like all he is doing is trying to change the custody arrangement. I would imagine, however, if he is trying to find Colin, get approval from the court to see him and possibly have custody of him that that information is being kept under cover. Also, courts take forever to do anything. I don't hate Jon nor do I see him as a saint, not by a long shot. He should never have agreed to her having full custody. Whatever his reasons, he did. Him, no one else. What a fool he was for doing that. I don't see how anyone could support that behavior.

No ma'am, I don't know everything and I never said I did. Of course, I'm interested in 'these people', we all are, you included or neither of us would be commenting on them. I've watched them since the beginning and whenever I see her in the news, it peaks my interest to see what's happening now. The majority of time they never even come to mind. Now that she's back for a short while she's in the news. That's it, nothing deep and dark about my interest and no, I don't like her but I don't wish harm to her either. Because she is their mother and they love her.

Text book study: Wow, just wow. I like to hurt kids? No I definitely do not. I have not made one vicious post about the kids. I have only said I feel sorry for them. You need some anger management skills. And yes, I have met Kate, not at a book signing or on one of their many begging for money crusades at the churches, all the while moving into a million dollar house. See, I also know that Jon was part of all that, that's not just on Kate. So, why don't you get your 'facts' straight before you open your mouth.

I really liked this episode. I thought it was really cute. I really liked the cooking part and the dinner part. The etiquette class was fun too. Aaden was hilarious when he just kept laughing. Chef Toya Boudy seemed to be really energetic and liked working with Kate and the kids. On Twitter she commented on how strong Kate is and that the kids were so cool. The kids seemed to enjoy their time with her too. It was overall just a really good episode.

Anger management coming from you is just a LOL comment. You follow and post EVERYTHING about Kate. Yes, you talk about the kids, judging Kate is hurting the kids. It's none of your business, maybe you should invest your time in helping a shelter, community, homeless, etc. With all of your knowledge you would probably shine to everyone. :)

Really, I post everything about Kate. I am not hurting the kids by judging their shrew of a mother. By the same token, it's none of your business either. Keep on defending her, that's what you do best. As for volunteering, I do that. Just because we have differing opinions doesn't mean a thing, except you are judgmental against anyone saying anything at all about Kate.

I love all the anger comments by you on this group. I am not angry, that is way too much trouble. You on the other hand, throw that around as though it makes you superior. Arrogance will take you down every time.

I just posted a response to "Anonymous" before my response to Kendall, and it's disappeared. I know that happens sometimes. Maybe it's a sign to be brief. I'll try again.

Anonymous:

Can you acknowledge that Kate is keeping Collin's whereabouts from Jon because she can? If she couldn't then she would have been ordered by the courts to tell Jon. I give Jon the benefit of the doubt that he had his lawyers file papers with the courts to get information on his son's location and condition, and didn't just complain about not knowing to ET or InTouch.

He's filed for joint custody, and what will be will be. I don't know that he agreed to give Kate full custody, I've only heard about that he allegedly gave up having a say in his kids' lives in order to not pay CS. I don't know if that's true. I think that ideally all the kids should see their father, but I think it's their choice, since some of them do seem to see Jon regularly. Collin's situation is different now, but it's my hope that everything is resolved in the kids' best interests. If right now Kate is the only one who has a say in what her kids do then it must be because someone in authority (a Judge) has decided that it was in the kids' best interests.

Yes, I am interested in the Gosselin family. I want them to be happy and I think their mother is doing her best, that doesn't mean I think she always does the right thing, but I think she does want what's best for her children. Frankly, I don't think that Jon and Kate's issues with each other are ever going to be resolved. They will probably always be at odds, because there's no trust there.

I think the crux of the situation is Kate is not some all powerful goddess who can defy court rulings and get away with it. There is a reason why the court has allowed Kate to keep Information on Colin from Jon: either Jon has never really pursued the issue with court or the court has legitimate reason to fear that Jon would reveal the location publicaly which could potentially cause the harm to others st the facility. The last thing anyone at such a facility needs is swarms of tabloid reporters harassing them.

While reading at Becks yesterday it came to me it is like these fake news sites that have popped up. It is how 'pizzagate' came to be. You can look at pictures read things and put your own spin on it. People see what they want to see and find what they want to find.

So Sue_Buddy, did you see Kate's naked breasts and girly bits when you called the Red Cross to complain about her horribly inappropriate and coquettish blanket photo that you and everyone at the BL's went ape shit over because you were sure she was naked under it? Talk about seeing what you want to see...

Here's my thing about what's going on with Collin. This is just a regurgitation of thoughts.

I have no idea because I don't live with the family. And it's simply none of my business. But, I do think his issues may have been something that could be in the family (passed down). Do I think Kate is the sole reason for his issues now? No. BUT I do think Collin needed more individualized attention even from the time when he was younger. From the times when Collin was younger and received one on one time with either parent, they both mentioned how talkative he was once he was alone (I get that because I am the same way). I believe Collin would get frustrated with not getting enough attention. He needed it. I believe Kate when she says Collin had social issues because of how aggressive he was when he was a kid and what happened in 2010. At this point, I can only hope for the best for Collin because he deserves it. He seems like such a sweet, intelligent, smart kid.

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BLEEPLEPeople who follow the BL because they are followers. They have no cognitive abilities of their own.An individual who accepts the BL's opinions as fact without examination. Even though they know what she says is complete made-up bullshit, they buy it hook, line, and sinker so they can continue in her good graces and have a place to post their obsessions and hate for Kate Gosselin with glee.