LotF and FotJ started out with some promise, but both puttered out by about book three of their respective cycles. Characterization was inconsistent and illogical and the switching between multiple authors, something that worked well in the NJO, only served to make the plotlines muddled.

Alan, as far as I recall, Mercy Kill managed to get by without too much reference to the events of FoTJ._________________All things die, Anakin Skywalker, even stars burn out.

So this is how liberty dies....with thunderous applause.

Those without swords can still die upon them

The world is a mess and I just need to rule it.

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:05 pm

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Taral-DLOSMaster

Joined: 23 Nov 2010Posts: 1743Location: Ontario, Canada

I'm afraid I don't understand the list. I thought you were going for "essential," but there's a lot of nonessential stuff in there._________________"I'm...from Earth."

I'm afraid I don't understand the list. I thought you were going for "essential," but there's a lot of nonessential stuff in there.

What would you recommend I drop, then? I do want input, so if you have any suggestions, please tell me.

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:44 am

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Taral-DLOSMaster

Joined: 23 Nov 2010Posts: 1743Location: Ontario, Canada

Alan Skywalker V wrote:

Taral-DLOS wrote:

I'm afraid I don't understand the list. I thought you were going for "essential," but there's a lot of nonessential stuff in there.

What would you recommend I drop, then? I do want input, so if you have any suggestions, please tell me.

It depends heavily on your definition of "essential". If you mean "good," then this is a great list. But if you mean "meaningful to the overall Star Wars EU experience, then it is way too big, in my view.

In particular, you've included the Lost Tribe of the Sith. This is only essential IF you're also listing Fate of the Jedi series, which you've opted not to. And even then, they're fun background, but barely "essential" even if you included FOTJ.

Your list below, with my deletions in red, and any additions in blue. I've also opted to clarify some titles (because the average newcomer may not recognize all of these).

Click here to see the hidden message (It might contain spoilers)

Tales of the Jedi: The Golden Age of the Sith
Tales of the Jedi: Fall of the Sith Empire
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Precipice
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Skyborn
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Paragon
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Savior
Tales of the Jedi: Ulic Qel Droma and the Beast Wars of Onderon
Tales of the Jedi: The Saga of Nomi Sunrider
Tales of the Jedi: The Freedon Nadd Uprising
Tales of the Jedi: Dark Lords of the Sith
Tales of the Jedi: The Sith War
Tales of the Jedi: Redemption
Knights of the Old Republic: Crossroads
Knights of the Old Republic: Commencement
Knights of the Old Republic: Flashpoint
Knights of the Old Republic: Homecoming
Knights of the Old Republic: Reunion
Knights of the Old Republic: Days of Fear
Knights of the Old Republic: Nights of Anger
Knights of the Old Republic: Daze of Hate
Knights of the Old Republic: Knights of Suffering
Knights of the Old Republic: Vector
Knights of the Old Republic: Exalted
Knights of the Old Republic: Turnabout
Knights of the Old Republic: Vindication
Knights of the Old Republic: Prophet Motive
Knights of the Old Republic: Faithful Execution
Knights of the Old Republic: Dueling Ambitions
Knights of the Old Republic: Masks
Knights of the Old Republic: The Reaping
Knights of the Old Republic: Destroyer
Knights of the Old Republic: Demon
Knights of the Old Republic: War!
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Purgatory
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Sentinel
Knights of the Old Republic
The Old Republic: Revan
Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
The Old Republic: Blood of the Empire
The Old Republic: Threat of Peace
The Old Republic: Deceived
The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance
The Old Republic
The Old Republic: The Lost Suns
The Old Republic: Annihilation
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Pantheon
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Secrets
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Pandemonium
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Spiral
Darth Bane: Path of Destruction
Jedi Vs. Sith: rationale: Path of Destruction retells this story in a more comprehensive way. PoD is essential, JvS is fun but not necessary
Darth Bane: Rule of Two
Darth Bane: Dynasty of Evil
Legacy of the Jedi
Darth Plagueis
Jedi: The Dark Side
The Rising Force
The Dark Rival
The Hidden Past
The Mark of the Crown
The Defenders of the Dead
The Uncertain Path
The Captive Temple
The Day of Reckoning
The Fight for Truth
The Shattered Peace
The Deadly Hunter
The Evil Experiment
The Dangerous Rescue
Deceptions
The Ties That Bind
The Death of Hope
The Call to Vengeance
The Only Witness
The Threat Within
Secrets of the Jedi
The Followers
The Aurorient Express
Last Stand on Ord Mantell
Jedi Council: Acts of War
Darth Maul: Saboteur
Prelude to Rebellion
Cloak of Deception
Darth Maul
Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter
The Phantom Menace
Aurra Sing
Outlander
Jango Fett: Open Seasons
Emissaries to Malastare
Twilight
Infinity's End
Star Crash
The Hunt For Aurra Sing
Darkness
The Stark Hyperspace War
The Devaronian Version
Rite of Passage
Rogue Planet
Path to Truth
The Way of the Apprentice
The Trail of the Jedi
Outbound Flight
Jango Fett
Zam Wesell
The Dangerous Games
The Master of Disguise
The School of Fear
The Shadow Trap
The Moment of Truth
Starfighter: Crossbones You didn't include Starfighter, so Starfighter: Crossbones, while fun, is fluff.
The Changing of the Guard
The False Peace
The Final Showdown
Honor and Duty
The Approaching Storm
Attack of the Clones
Boba Fett: The Fight to Survive
Boba Fett: Crossfire
Republic: Sacrifice
Boba Fett: Maze Of Deception
Republic: The Defense of Kamino
Boba Fett: Hunted
Republic: The New Face of War
Republic Commando: Hard Contact
Jedi: Mace Windu
Republic: Blast Radius
Jedi: Shaak Ti
Shatterpoint
Republic: Double Blind
Jedi: Aayla Secura
Jedi: Count Dooku
Republic: Rainmakers
Republic: Stormchasers
Republic: Lightning Rods
Republic: Floodgates
Republic: Enemy Lines
Republic: Hate and Fear
Republic: Dead Ends
Republic: No Man's Land
Jedi: Yoda
Republic: Striking From the Shadows
Republic: Bloodlines
Republic: Show of Force
Republic: Forever Young
Republic: Armor
The Hive
The Cestus Deception
Jedi Trial
Republic: Dreadnaughts of Rendili
Republic: Trackdown
Boba Fett: A New Threat
Boba Fett: Pursuit
Republic Commando: Triple Zero
Republic: Siege of Saleucami
Republic Commando: True Colors
Battle Surgeons
Jedi Healer
General Grievous
Yoda: Dark Rendezvous
Republic Commando: Order 66
Obsession
Labyrinth of Evil
Revenge of the Sith
Republic: The Hidden Enemy
Republic: Into the Unknown
Republic: Loyalties
Imperial Commando: 501st
Purge
Kenobi
Dark Times: Path to Nowhere
Purge: Seconds to Die
Purge: The Hidden Blade
Purge: Tyrant's Fist
Darth Vader and the Lost Command
Dark Times: Parallels
Dark Times: Vector
Dark Times: Blue Harvest
Out of the Wilderness
Darth Vader and the Ghost Prison
Dark Times: Fire Carrier
Dark Times: A Spark Remains
Darth Vader and the Ninth Assassin
Darth Vader and the Cry of Shadows
The Desperate Mission
Dark Warning
Underworld
Death on Naboo
A Tangled Web
Return of the Dark Side
Secret Weapon
Against the Empire
Master of Deception
Reckoning
The Paradise Snare
The Hutt Gambit
Lando Calrissian and the Mindharp of Sharu
Lando Calrissian and the Flamewind of Oseon
Lando Calrissian and the StarCave of ThonBoka
Rebel Dawn
Agent of the Empire: Iron Eclipse
Agent of the Empire: Hard Targets
Empire: Darklighter
Han Solo at Stars' End
Empire: Princess...Warrior
Han Solo's Revenge
Han Solo and the Lost Legacy
Blood Ties: A Tale of Jango and Boba Fett
Boba Fett: Enemy of the Empire
Soldier for the Empire
Empire: Betrayal
Blood Ties: Boba Fett is Dead
Empire: The Short, Happy Life of Roons Sewell
Death Star
A New Hope
Empire: What Sin Loyalty
Empire: The Savage Heart
Target
Hostage
Renegade
Firefight
Trapped
Uprising
Empire: To The Last Man
Empire: Sacrifice
Vader's Quest
Empire: Target: Vader
Allegiance
Choices of One
Empire: A Little Bit of Home
Empire: Alone Together
River of Chaos
Empire: The Bravery of Being Out of Range
Empire: Idiot's Array
Empire: "General" Skywalker
Empire: Wreckage
Empire: The Price of Power
Empire: In The Shadows of their Fathers
Empire: A Model Officer
Empire: The Wrong Side of the War
Rebellion: Crossroads
Rebellion: My Brother, My Enemy
Boba Fett: Overkill
Rebellion: The Ahakista Gambit
Rebellion: Small Victories
Rebellion: Vector
The Empire Strikes Back
Shadows of the Empire
Scoundrel's Wages
Return of the Jedi
Mara Jade: By the Emperor's Hand
The Truce at Bakura
Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor
X-Wing Rogue Leader
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: The Rebel Oppostion
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: The Phantom Affair
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: Battleground Tatooine
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: Warrior Princess
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: Reqiuem for a Rogue
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: In The Empire's Service
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: The Making of Baron Fel
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: Family Ties
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: Mandatory Retirement
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: Masquerade
Dark Forces: Rebel Agent
Dark Forces: Jedi Knight
Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight
Rogue Squadron
Wedge's Gamble
The Krytos Trap
The Bacta War
Wraith Squadron
Iron Fist
Solo Command
The Courtship of Princess Leia
A Forest Apart
Tatooine Ghost
Heir to the Empire
Dark Force Rising
The Last Command
Isard's Revenge
Boba Fett: Bounty on Bar-Kooda
Boba Fett: When the Fat Lady Swings
Boba Fett: Murder Most Foul
Boba Fett: Agent of Doom
Dark Empire
Dark Empire II
Empire's End
Crimson Empire
Kenix Kil
Crimson Empire II: Council of Blood
I, Jedi
Jedi Search
Dark Apprentice
Champions of the Force
Children of the Jedi
Darksaber
Planet of Twilight
Starfighters of Adumar
Crimson Empire III: Empire Lost These are definitely fun stories, but I would not say Essential. But on the line. I could be persuaded.
Before the Storm
Shield of Lies
Tyrant's Test
The New Rebellion
Ambush at Corellia
Assault at Selonia
Showdown at Centerpoint
Specter of the Past
Vision of the Future
Union
Junior Jedi Knights: The Golden Globe (usually I've been taking out the young reader books, but the JJK and YJK books are essential)
Junior Jedi Knights: Lyric's World
Junior Jedi Knights: Promises
Junior Jedi Knights: Anakin's Quest
Junior Jedi Knights: Vader's Fortress
Junior Jedi Knights: Kenobi's Blade
Fool's Bargain
Survivor's Quest
Young Jedi Knights: Heirs of the Force
Young Jedi Knights: The Shadow Academy
Young Jedi Knights: The Lost Ones
Young Jedi Knights: Lightsabers
Darkest Knight
Young Jedi Knights: Jedi Under Siege
Young Jedi Knights: Shards of Alderaan
Young Jedi Knights: Diversity Alliance
Young Jedi Knights: Delusions of Grandeur
Young Jedi Knights: Jedi Bounty
Young Jedi Knights: The Emperor's Plague
Young Jedi Knights: Return to Ord Mantell
Young Jedi Knights: Trouble on Cloud City
Young Jedi Knights: Crisis at Crystal Reef
Vector Prime
Chewbacca
Onslaught
Ruin
Hero's Trial
Jedi Eclipse
Balance Point
Recovery
Conquest
Rebirth
Star by Star
Dark Journey
Rebel Dream
Rebel Stand
Traitor
Destiny's Way
Ylesia
Remnant
Refugee
Reunion
The Final Prophecy
The Unifying Force

Noting that you stop on The Unifying Force, I refrain from adding what comes later. Though I would argue that Legacy of the Force, Fate of the Jedi, and Legacy are essential and should be included._________________"I'm...from Earth."

I'm afraid I don't understand the list. I thought you were going for "essential," but there's a lot of nonessential stuff in there.

What would you recommend I drop, then? I do want input, so if you have any suggestions, please tell me.

It depends heavily on your definition of "essential". If you mean "good," then this is a great list. But if you mean "meaningful to the overall Star Wars EU experience, then it is way too big, in my view.

In particular, you've included the Lost Tribe of the Sith. This is only essential IF you're also listing Fate of the Jedi series, which you've opted not to. And even then, they're fun background, but barely "essential" even if you included FOTJ.

Your list below, with my deletions in red, and any additions in blue. I've also opted to clarify some titles (because the average newcomer may not recognize all of these).

Click here to see the hidden message (It might contain spoilers)

Tales of the Jedi: The Golden Age of the Sith
Tales of the Jedi: Fall of the Sith Empire
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Precipice
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Skyborn
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Paragon
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Savior
Tales of the Jedi: Ulic Qel Droma and the Beast Wars of Onderon
Tales of the Jedi: The Saga of Nomi Sunrider
Tales of the Jedi: The Freedon Nadd Uprising
Tales of the Jedi: Dark Lords of the Sith
Tales of the Jedi: The Sith War
Tales of the Jedi: Redemption
Knights of the Old Republic: Crossroads
Knights of the Old Republic: Commencement
Knights of the Old Republic: Flashpoint
Knights of the Old Republic: Homecoming
Knights of the Old Republic: Reunion
Knights of the Old Republic: Days of Fear
Knights of the Old Republic: Nights of Anger
Knights of the Old Republic: Daze of Hate
Knights of the Old Republic: Knights of Suffering
Knights of the Old Republic: Vector
Knights of the Old Republic: Exalted
Knights of the Old Republic: Turnabout
Knights of the Old Republic: Vindication
Knights of the Old Republic: Prophet Motive
Knights of the Old Republic: Faithful Execution
Knights of the Old Republic: Dueling Ambitions
Knights of the Old Republic: Masks
Knights of the Old Republic: The Reaping
Knights of the Old Republic: Destroyer
Knights of the Old Republic: Demon
Knights of the Old Republic: War!
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Purgatory
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Sentinel
Knights of the Old Republic
The Old Republic: Revan
Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
The Old Republic: Blood of the Empire
The Old Republic: Threat of Peace
The Old Republic: Deceived
The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance
The Old Republic
The Old Republic: The Lost Suns
The Old Republic: Annihilation
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Pantheon
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Secrets
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Pandemonium
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Spiral
Darth Bane: Path of Destruction
Jedi Vs. Sith: rationale: Path of Destruction retells this story in a more comprehensive way. PoD is essential, JvS is fun but not necessary
Darth Bane: Rule of Two
Darth Bane: Dynasty of Evil
Legacy of the Jedi
Darth Plagueis
Jedi: The Dark Side
The Rising Force
The Dark Rival
The Hidden Past
The Mark of the Crown
The Defenders of the Dead
The Uncertain Path
The Captive Temple
The Day of Reckoning
The Fight for Truth
The Shattered Peace
The Deadly Hunter
The Evil Experiment
The Dangerous Rescue
Deceptions
The Ties That Bind
The Death of Hope
The Call to Vengeance
The Only Witness
The Threat Within
Secrets of the Jedi
The Followers
The Aurorient Express
Last Stand on Ord Mantell
Jedi Council: Acts of War
Darth Maul: Saboteur
Prelude to Rebellion
Cloak of Deception
Darth Maul
Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter
The Phantom Menace
Aurra Sing
Outlander
Jango Fett: Open Seasons
Emissaries to Malastare
Twilight
Infinity's End
Star Crash
The Hunt For Aurra Sing
Darkness
The Stark Hyperspace War
The Devaronian Version
Rite of Passage
Rogue Planet
Path to Truth
The Way of the Apprentice
The Trail of the Jedi
Outbound Flight
Jango Fett
Zam Wesell
The Dangerous Games
The Master of Disguise
The School of Fear
The Shadow Trap
The Moment of Truth
Starfighter: Crossbones You didn't include Starfighter, so Starfighter: Crossbones, while fun, is fluff.
The Changing of the Guard
The False Peace
The Final Showdown
Honor and Duty
The Approaching Storm
Attack of the Clones
Boba Fett: The Fight to Survive
Boba Fett: Crossfire
Republic: Sacrifice
Boba Fett: Maze Of Deception
Republic: The Defense of Kamino
Boba Fett: Hunted
Republic: The New Face of War
Republic Commando: Hard Contact
Jedi: Mace Windu
Republic: Blast Radius
Jedi: Shaak Ti
Shatterpoint
Republic: Double Blind
Jedi: Aayla Secura
Jedi: Count Dooku
Republic: Rainmakers
Republic: Stormchasers
Republic: Lightning Rods
Republic: Floodgates
Republic: Enemy Lines
Republic: Hate and Fear
Republic: Dead Ends
Republic: No Man's Land
Jedi: Yoda
Republic: Striking From the Shadows
Republic: Bloodlines
Republic: Show of Force
Republic: Forever Young
Republic: Armor
The Hive
The Cestus Deception
Jedi Trial
Republic: Dreadnaughts of Rendili
Republic: Trackdown
Boba Fett: A New Threat
Boba Fett: Pursuit
Republic Commando: Triple Zero
Republic: Siege of Saleucami
Republic Commando: True Colors
Battle Surgeons
Jedi Healer
General Grievous
Yoda: Dark Rendezvous
Republic Commando: Order 66
Obsession
Labyrinth of Evil
Revenge of the Sith
Republic: The Hidden Enemy
Republic: Into the Unknown
Republic: Loyalties
Imperial Commando: 501st
Purge
Kenobi
Dark Times: Path to Nowhere
Purge: Seconds to Die
Purge: The Hidden Blade
Purge: Tyrant's Fist
Darth Vader and the Lost Command
Dark Times: Parallels
Dark Times: Vector
Dark Times: Blue Harvest
Out of the Wilderness
Darth Vader and the Ghost Prison
Dark Times: Fire Carrier
Dark Times: A Spark Remains
Darth Vader and the Ninth Assassin
Darth Vader and the Cry of Shadows
The Desperate Mission
Dark Warning
Underworld
Death on Naboo
A Tangled Web
Return of the Dark Side
Secret Weapon
Against the Empire
Master of Deception
Reckoning
The Paradise Snare
The Hutt Gambit
Lando Calrissian and the Mindharp of Sharu
Lando Calrissian and the Flamewind of Oseon
Lando Calrissian and the StarCave of ThonBoka
Rebel Dawn
Agent of the Empire: Iron Eclipse
Agent of the Empire: Hard Targets
Empire: Darklighter
Han Solo at Stars' End
Empire: Princess...Warrior
Han Solo's Revenge
Han Solo and the Lost Legacy
Blood Ties: A Tale of Jango and Boba Fett
Boba Fett: Enemy of the Empire
Soldier for the Empire
Empire: Betrayal
Blood Ties: Boba Fett is Dead
Empire: The Short, Happy Life of Roons Sewell
Death Star
A New Hope
Empire: What Sin Loyalty
Empire: The Savage Heart
Target
Hostage
Renegade
Firefight
Trapped
Uprising
Empire: To The Last Man
Empire: Sacrifice
Vader's Quest
Empire: Target: Vader
Allegiance
Choices of One
Empire: A Little Bit of Home
Empire: Alone Together
River of Chaos
Empire: The Bravery of Being Out of Range
Empire: Idiot's Array
Empire: "General" Skywalker
Empire: Wreckage
Empire: The Price of Power
Empire: In The Shadows of their Fathers
Empire: A Model Officer
Empire: The Wrong Side of the War
Rebellion: Crossroads
Rebellion: My Brother, My Enemy
Boba Fett: Overkill
Rebellion: The Ahakista Gambit
Rebellion: Small Victories
Rebellion: Vector
The Empire Strikes Back
Shadows of the Empire
Scoundrel's Wages
Return of the Jedi
Mara Jade: By the Emperor's Hand
The Truce at Bakura
Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor
X-Wing Rogue Leader
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: The Rebel Oppostion
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: The Phantom Affair
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: Battleground Tatooine
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: Warrior Princess
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: Reqiuem for a Rogue
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: In The Empire's Service
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: The Making of Baron Fel
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: Family Ties
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: Mandatory Retirement
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: Masquerade
Dark Forces: Rebel Agent
Dark Forces: Jedi Knight
Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight
Rogue Squadron
Wedge's Gamble
The Krytos Trap
The Bacta War
Wraith Squadron
Iron Fist
Solo Command
The Courtship of Princess Leia
A Forest Apart
Tatooine Ghost
Heir to the Empire
Dark Force Rising
The Last Command
Isard's Revenge
Boba Fett: Bounty on Bar-Kooda
Boba Fett: When the Fat Lady Swings
Boba Fett: Murder Most Foul
Boba Fett: Agent of Doom
Dark Empire
Dark Empire II
Empire's End
Crimson Empire
Kenix Kil
Crimson Empire II: Council of Blood
I, Jedi
Jedi Search
Dark Apprentice
Champions of the Force
Children of the Jedi
Darksaber
Planet of Twilight
Starfighters of Adumar
Crimson Empire III: Empire Lost These are definitely fun stories, but I would not say Essential. But on the line. I could be persuaded.
Before the Storm
Shield of Lies
Tyrant's Test
The New Rebellion
Ambush at Corellia
Assault at Selonia
Showdown at Centerpoint
Specter of the Past
Vision of the Future
Union
Junior Jedi Knights: The Golden Globe (usually I've been taking out the young reader books, but the JJK and YJK books are essential)
Junior Jedi Knights: Lyric's World
Junior Jedi Knights: Promises
Junior Jedi Knights: Anakin's Quest
Junior Jedi Knights: Vader's Fortress
Junior Jedi Knights: Kenobi's Blade
Fool's Bargain
Survivor's Quest
Young Jedi Knights: Heirs of the Force
Young Jedi Knights: The Shadow Academy
Young Jedi Knights: The Lost Ones
Young Jedi Knights: Lightsabers
Darkest Knight
Young Jedi Knights: Jedi Under Siege
Young Jedi Knights: Shards of Alderaan
Young Jedi Knights: Diversity Alliance
Young Jedi Knights: Delusions of Grandeur
Young Jedi Knights: Jedi Bounty
Young Jedi Knights: The Emperor's Plague
Young Jedi Knights: Return to Ord Mantell
Young Jedi Knights: Trouble on Cloud City
Young Jedi Knights: Crisis at Crystal Reef
Vector Prime
Chewbacca
Onslaught
Ruin
Hero's Trial
Jedi Eclipse
Balance Point
Recovery
Conquest
Rebirth
Star by Star
Dark Journey
Rebel Dream
Rebel Stand
Traitor
Destiny's Way
Ylesia
Remnant
Refugee
Reunion
The Final Prophecy
The Unifying Force

Noting that you stop on The Unifying Force, I refrain from adding what comes later. Though I would argue that Legacy of the Force, Fate of the Jedi, and Legacy are essential and should be included.

Thanks. The reason I haven't included many video games is because only a small number are available for PC. I don't have the money to shell out for an Xbox, Playstation, ect. so it has to be PC games. That's why I didn't include Starfighter - I know it's available for PC, but Jedi Starfighter is not, and if I can't buy JS, then is it really worth it to buy Starfighter alone?

Good catch on Rebellion: Crossroads. Can't believe I missed it.

The large bulk of young readers isn't essential, true, but I included JQ and JA since the Darth Bane to TPM era and especially TPM to AOTC are pretty bare otherwise.

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:04 am

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Taral-DLOSMaster

Joined: 23 Nov 2010Posts: 1743Location: Ontario, Canada

Alan Skywalker V wrote:

Taral-DLOS wrote:

Alan Skywalker V wrote:

Taral-DLOS wrote:

I'm afraid I don't understand the list. I thought you were going for "essential," but there's a lot of nonessential stuff in there.

What would you recommend I drop, then? I do want input, so if you have any suggestions, please tell me.

It depends heavily on your definition of "essential". If you mean "good," then this is a great list. But if you mean "meaningful to the overall Star Wars EU experience, then it is way too big, in my view.

In particular, you've included the Lost Tribe of the Sith. This is only essential IF you're also listing Fate of the Jedi series, which you've opted not to. And even then, they're fun background, but barely "essential" even if you included FOTJ.

Your list below, with my deletions in red, and any additions in blue. I've also opted to clarify some titles (because the average newcomer may not recognize all of these).

Click here to see the hidden message (It might contain spoilers)

Tales of the Jedi: The Golden Age of the Sith
Tales of the Jedi: Fall of the Sith Empire
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Precipice
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Skyborn
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Paragon
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Savior
Tales of the Jedi: Ulic Qel Droma and the Beast Wars of Onderon
Tales of the Jedi: The Saga of Nomi Sunrider
Tales of the Jedi: The Freedon Nadd Uprising
Tales of the Jedi: Dark Lords of the Sith
Tales of the Jedi: The Sith War
Tales of the Jedi: Redemption
Knights of the Old Republic: Crossroads
Knights of the Old Republic: Commencement
Knights of the Old Republic: Flashpoint
Knights of the Old Republic: Homecoming
Knights of the Old Republic: Reunion
Knights of the Old Republic: Days of Fear
Knights of the Old Republic: Nights of Anger
Knights of the Old Republic: Daze of Hate
Knights of the Old Republic: Knights of Suffering
Knights of the Old Republic: Vector
Knights of the Old Republic: Exalted
Knights of the Old Republic: Turnabout
Knights of the Old Republic: Vindication
Knights of the Old Republic: Prophet Motive
Knights of the Old Republic: Faithful Execution
Knights of the Old Republic: Dueling Ambitions
Knights of the Old Republic: Masks
Knights of the Old Republic: The Reaping
Knights of the Old Republic: Destroyer
Knights of the Old Republic: Demon
Knights of the Old Republic: War!
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Purgatory
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Sentinel
Knights of the Old Republic
The Old Republic: Revan
Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
The Old Republic: Blood of the Empire
The Old Republic: Threat of Peace
The Old Republic: Deceived
The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance
The Old Republic
The Old Republic: The Lost Suns
The Old Republic: Annihilation
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Pantheon
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Secrets
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Pandemonium
Lost Tribe of the Sith: Spiral
Darth Bane: Path of Destruction
Jedi Vs. Sith: rationale: Path of Destruction retells this story in a more comprehensive way. PoD is essential, JvS is fun but not necessary
Darth Bane: Rule of Two
Darth Bane: Dynasty of Evil
Legacy of the Jedi
Darth Plagueis
Jedi: The Dark Side
The Rising Force
The Dark Rival
The Hidden Past
The Mark of the Crown
The Defenders of the Dead
The Uncertain Path
The Captive Temple
The Day of Reckoning
The Fight for Truth
The Shattered Peace
The Deadly Hunter
The Evil Experiment
The Dangerous Rescue
Deceptions
The Ties That Bind
The Death of Hope
The Call to Vengeance
The Only Witness
The Threat Within
Secrets of the Jedi
The Followers
The Aurorient Express
Last Stand on Ord Mantell
Jedi Council: Acts of War
Darth Maul: Saboteur
Bounty Hunter
Prelude to Rebellion
Cloak of Deception
Darth Maul
Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter
The Phantom Menace
Aurra Sing
Outlander
Jango Fett: Open Seasons
Emissaries to Malastare
Twilight
Infinity's End
Star Crash
The Hunt For Aurra Sing
Darkness
The Stark Hyperspace War
The Devaronian Version
Rite of Passage
Rogue Planet
Path to Truth
The Way of the Apprentice
The Trail of the Jedi
Outbound Flight
Jango Fett
Zam Wesell
The Dangerous Games
The Master of Disguise
The School of Fear
The Shadow Trap
The Moment of Truth
Starfighter: Crossbones You didn't include Starfighter, so Starfighter: Crossbones, while fun, is fluff.
The Changing of the Guard
The False Peace
The Final Showdown
Honor and Duty
The Approaching Storm
Attack of the Clones
The Clone Wars (this is the GameCube video game)
Republic Commando
Boba Fett: The Fight to Survive
Boba Fett: Crossfire
Republic: Sacrifice
Boba Fett: Maze Of Deception
Republic: The Defense of Kamino
Boba Fett: Hunted
Republic: The New Face of War
Republic Commando: Hard Contact
Jedi: Mace Windu
Republic: Blast Radius
Jedi: Shaak Ti
Shatterpoint
Republic: Double Blind
Jedi: Aayla Secura
Jedi: Count Dooku
Republic: Rainmakers
Republic: Stormchasers
Republic: Lightning Rods
Republic: Floodgates
Republic: Enemy Lines
Republic: Hate and Fear
Republic: Dead Ends
Republic: No Man's Land
Jedi: Yoda
Republic: Striking From the Shadows
Republic: Bloodlines
Republic: Show of Force
Republic: Forever Young
Republic: Armor
The Hive
The Cestus Deception
Jedi Trial
Republic: Dreadnaughts of Rendili
Republic: Trackdown
Boba Fett: A New Threat
Boba Fett: Pursuit
Republic Commando: Triple Zero
Republic: Siege of Saleucami
Republic Commando: True Colors
Battle Surgeons
Jedi Healer
General Grievous
Yoda: Dark Rendezvous
Republic Commando: Order 66
Obsession
Labyrinth of Evil
Revenge of the Sith
Republic: The Hidden Enemy
Republic: Into the Unknown
Republic: Loyalties
Imperial Commando: 501st
Purge
Kenobi
Dark Times: Path to Nowhere
Purge: Seconds to Die
Purge: The Hidden Blade
Purge: Tyrant's Fist
Darth Vader and the Lost Command
Dark Times: Parallels
Dark Times: Vector
Dark Times: Blue Harvest
Out of the Wilderness
Darth Vader and the Ghost Prison
Dark Times: Fire Carrier
Dark Times: A Spark Remains
Darth Vader and the Ninth Assassin
Darth Vader and the Cry of Shadows
The Desperate Mission
Dark Warning
Underworld
Death on Naboo
A Tangled Web
Return of the Dark Side
Secret Weapon
Against the Empire
Master of Deception
Reckoning
The Paradise Snare
The Hutt Gambit
Lando Calrissian and the Mindharp of Sharu
Lando Calrissian and the Flamewind of Oseon
Lando Calrissian and the StarCave of ThonBoka
Rebel Dawn
Agent of the Empire: Iron Eclipse
Agent of the Empire: Hard Targets The Force Unleashed
The Force Unleashed II (for both of these, I'm referring to the entire multimedia event: novel, comic, and game)
Empire: Darklighter
Han Solo at Stars' End
Empire: Princess...Warrior
Han Solo's Revenge
Han Solo and the Lost Legacy
Blood Ties: A Tale of Jango and Boba Fett
Boba Fett: Enemy of the Empire
Soldier for the Empire
X-Wing
Empire: Betrayal
Blood Ties: Boba Fett is Dead
Empire: The Short, Happy Life of Roons Sewell
Death Star
A New Hope
Empire: What Sin Loyalty
Empire: The Savage Heart
Target
Hostage
Renegade
Firefight
Trapped
Uprising
Empire: To The Last Man
Empire: Sacrifice
Vader's Quest
Empire: Target: Vader
Allegiance
Choices of One
Empire: A Little Bit of Home
Empire: Alone Together
River of Chaos
Empire: The Bravery of Being Out of Range
Empire: Idiot's Array
Empire: "General" Skywalker
Empire: Wreckage
Empire: The Price of Power
Empire: In The Shadows of their Fathers
Empire: A Model Officer
Empire: The Wrong Side of the War
Rebellion: Crossroads
Rebellion: My Brother, My Enemy
Boba Fett: Overkill
Rebellion: The Ahakista Gambit
Rebellion: Small Victories
Rebellion: Vector
The Empire Strikes Back
TIE Fighter
X-Wing Alliance
Shadows of the Empire (novel, comic, and game)
Scoundrel's Wages
Return of the Jedi
Mara Jade: By the Emperor's Hand
The Truce at Bakura
Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor
X-Wing Rogue Leader
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: The Rebel Oppostion
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: The Phantom Affair
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: Battleground Tatooine
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: Warrior Princess
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: Reqiuem for a Rogue
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: In The Empire's Service
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: The Making of Baron Fel
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: Family Ties
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: Mandatory Retirement
X-Wing Rogue Squadron: Masquerade
Dark Forces: Rebel Agent
Dark Forces: Jedi Knight
Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight
Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith
Rogue Squadron
Wedge's Gamble
The Krytos Trap
The Bacta War
Wraith Squadron
Iron Fist
Solo Command
The Courtship of Princess Leia
A Forest Apart
Tatooine Ghost
Heir to the Empire
Dark Force Rising
The Last Command
Isard's Revenge
Boba Fett: Bounty on Bar-Kooda
Boba Fett: When the Fat Lady Swings
Boba Fett: Murder Most Foul
Boba Fett: Agent of Doom
Dark Empire
Dark Empire II
Empire's End
Crimson Empire
Kenix Kil
Crimson Empire II: Council of Blood
I, Jedi
Jedi Search
Dark Apprentice
Champions of the Force
Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast
Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
Children of the Jedi
Darksaber
Planet of Twilight
Starfighters of Adumar
Crimson Empire III: Empire Lost These are definitely fun stories, but I would not say Essential. But on the line. I could be persuaded.
Before the Storm
Shield of Lies
Tyrant's Test
The New Rebellion
Ambush at Corellia
Assault at Selonia
Showdown at Centerpoint
Specter of the Past
Vision of the Future
Union
Junior Jedi Knights: The Golden Globe (usually I've been taking out the young reader books, but the JJK and YJK books are essential)
Junior Jedi Knights: Lyric's World
Junior Jedi Knights: Promises
Junior Jedi Knights: Anakin's Quest
Junior Jedi Knights: Vader's Fortress
Junior Jedi Knights: Kenobi's Blade
Fool's Bargain
Survivor's Quest
Young Jedi Knights: Heirs of the Force
Young Jedi Knights: The Shadow Academy
Young Jedi Knights: The Lost Ones
Young Jedi Knights: Lightsabers
Darkest Knight
Young Jedi Knights: Jedi Under Siege
Young Jedi Knights: Shards of Alderaan
Young Jedi Knights: Diversity Alliance
Young Jedi Knights: Delusions of Grandeur
Young Jedi Knights: Jedi Bounty
Young Jedi Knights: The Emperor's Plague
Young Jedi Knights: Return to Ord Mantell
Young Jedi Knights: Trouble on Cloud City
Young Jedi Knights: Crisis at Crystal Reef
Vector Prime
Chewbacca
Onslaught
Ruin
Hero's Trial
Jedi Eclipse
Balance Point
Recovery
Conquest
Rebirth
Star by Star
Dark Journey
Rebel Dream
Rebel Stand
Traitor
Destiny's Way
Ylesia
Remnant
Refugee
Reunion
The Final Prophecy
The Unifying Force

Noting that you stop on The Unifying Force, I refrain from adding what comes later. Though I would argue that Legacy of the Force, Fate of the Jedi, and Legacy are essential and should be included.

Thanks. The reason I haven't included many video games is because only a small number are available for PC. I don't have the money to shell out for an Xbox, Playstation, ect. so it has to be PC games. That's why I didn't include Starfighter - I know it's available for PC, but Jedi Starfighter is not, and if I can't buy JS, then is it really worth it to buy Starfighter alone?

Good catch on Rebellion: Crossroads. Can't believe I missed it.

The large bulk of young readers isn't essential, true, but I included JQ and JA since the Darth Bane to TPM era and especially TPM to AOTC are pretty bare otherwise.

OK, you've just clarified an important point that I might've missed before: this is an essential reading list for you. I thought you were going for essential reading/consuming list for everyone.

I've added a few items in now, including some games that are a bit more on the essential side._________________"I'm...from Earth."

I was browsing one of the threads on TF.N's Lit forum today and came across this list of Star Wars material compiled by an anonymous poster. What's really interesting is where this guy's personal list ends, and he seems to have made a point of mostly including works that tie directly in to the films or else receive substantial nods in other works, as in the case of post ROTJ material, with only a few (like Allegiance/Choices of One) that aren't really referenced in later material. He also appears to have skipped all of the TCW material and most works that contain references to it except for Darth Plagueis.

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Thought you might like to see what I've come up with for my personal saga. I end mine with Junior/Young Jedi Knights because I've come to dislike the NJO and LOTF eras. To me Hand of Thrawn is a great endpoint; I include Union and Survivor's Quest to tie up a few loose ends from HOT and simply because they're good by themselves and JJK/YJK to give the Solo kids some adventures of their own.