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Commento di Ir0nBrutzler

Commento di Crowblack

on 2018-08-03T04:47:21-05:00

What happened to the new animations they were showing on the beta? Like Holy Light's new book animation.

Commento di Cruiser80

on 2018-08-03T04:50:28-05:00

Holy Paladin Main. We need more depth.\r\rBlizz class design early BFA is lacking and it really shows in a few specs. Holy Has great utility sure, but our throughput in to healing is generally pretty boring.\r\rDo better Blizz.

Commento di Adamselene

on 2018-08-03T07:28:45-05:00

What happened to the new animations they were showing on the beta? Like Holy Light's new book animation.\r\rBlizzard had issues getting it to work correctly with all races, so it was removed. It may or may not return in the future.

Commento di Bordi

on 2018-08-03T07:29:28-05:00

H Pally Current state: A SAD ONE

" Holy Shock no longer gains double your critical strike chance; instead, it adds a flat 30% crit chance. This means that Holy Shock crits will happen less often, so Infusion of Light buffs will be less frequent. Furthermore, the Shock Treatment and Second Sunrise traits being removed with our Artifact makes our core short cooldown spells less impactul, and therefore less satisfying to cast." SAYS IT ALL

So light of Dawn is about worthless at 240IL it does 1300 healing.... 1300 thats really helping the raid and 5 man heals when everyone is taking 5-7k shots....NOT... i dont think ill play h pally anymore unless a buff is in the future. why play a slow feeling healer with no throughput healing, raid heals, and countless worthless utility spells on the action bar now compared to actual healing spells. The amount h pallys took a step back just feels terrible my entire spec is playing around holy shock which ....shocker they nerfed that on top of everything else. You nerfed judgement of light by (20% down to 5% of Spell power) making our raid healing that much more sad. Beacon of the Lightbringer was just completely removed from the game and Light of Martyr feels just above useless with Fervent Martyr gone. you see the trend here? Things being taken away KEY things being taken away and nothing added or reworked...light of dawn use to be useful when it actually healed and could proc cooldowns or talents but now its about as useful as Disengage in a 1x1 room. I suppose if i want to waste a talent and get Awakening for a light of dawn proc....BUTTTTT i would have to give up Avenging Crusader ( Melee wings) or Sanctified Wrath which i think we can all agree we need Crusader or Wrath making the "added" worthless as ^&*! talent Awakening useless.

How can Blizzard put so much thought and work into MW monk ( great another monk spec OP AF for another expansion) but leave so many pillar healers behind in these reworks. everyone almost took a step back except MW who someone actually decided to put some work into and came out really nice except few other healers did...MW even Disc took 10 steps ahead of everyone. sure pally utility is nice but you know what else is? BEING ABLE TO BE A VIABLE HEALER. The class feels beyond slow game play and yeah mobility is a issue but id rather you fix the healing than our mobility. Blizz ruined alot with the GCD bs they are on. lemme click wings and wait. then holy avenger then wait, aura mastery and wait.. oh now i can acutally use a heal proabably a instant as i just fell behind trying to get 2 spells off to improve the $%^& throughput we currently have. We can hope and lie to ourselves that it will get better with 120 and Azerite gear and im sure we will but so is every other class thats already alot more viable than H Pally

I wonder if there is anyone in Blizzard who actually tests these reworks on all characters to see how they stack up to their respectable roles before they go live with this stuff. yes i know they will do minor fixes in the future but H pally is beyond a tiny tweak to fix. its weak, slow, and no real throughput. may as well go on monk and be able to instant casts all my main spells (single target, raid heals, and HOTS) instead of waiting 3 sec for a holy light that might reach 10k crit on a single target. 0 hots the GCD feels like AIDS ( ask magic johnson) oh and what use to be the class with all the blessings and buffs has crumbled over expansions to amount to jack %^&* for holy. right how could i forget my 20% dev aura that splits into only 5% in a m+, less in raids or our SAC aura that they nerfed to the ground. also we lost our extra 15% health on top of it. The spec just feels bad compared to when i jump on shaman, monk, druid, or priest to heal. It feels like Blizzard wants everyone to just play Monk Disc. Yes this is also a monk hate piece because the difference when i play monk vs pally is dramatically better in every aspect of healing, mobility, and class play.

Love,Blizzard fan and Holy Main

Blizzard Please fix Holy Paladin (also nerf the F out of MW or pull the rest of us up)

Commento di Hatsjekidee

on 2018-08-03T07:47:04-05:00

On top of this, Holy Shock no longer gains double your critical strike chance; instead, it adds a flat 30% crit chance. This means that Holy Shock crits will happen less often\r\rIncorrect, this means Holy Shock crits are actually more likely when you have less than 30% crit, compared to the old system. When you have more than 30% crit, the above statement is true.

Commento di Bordi

on 2018-08-03T08:15:13-05:00

whos gonna have less than 30% crit at 120 and actual raid or m+ no one. so yeah may be good while we are boosted and not at 30% crit but end game its a nerf

Commento di Adamselene

on 2018-08-03T08:36:25-05:00

whos gonna have less than 30% crit at 120 and actual raid or m+ no one. so yeah may be good while we are boosted and not at 30% crit but end game its a nerf\r\rPre-Uldir the highest possible Crit gear set will be much less than 30%. I haven't looked at a full Mythic geared setup yet, but 30% Crit is going to take you a long time to reach in BfA with linear secondary stat scaling and the loss of secondary stats on three armor pieces.

Commento di Adamselene

on 2018-08-03T08:41:09-05:00

On top of this, Holy Shock no longer gains double your critical strike chance; instead, it adds a flat 30% crit chance. This means that Holy Shock crits will happen less often\r\rIncorrect, this means Holy Shock crits are actually more likely when you have less than 30% crit, compared to the old system. When you have more than 30% crit, the above statement is true.\r\rYes, you are right. It is currently a nerf and will be again late in BfA, but for the early part of the expansion it will be a buff. Making that distinction was something we should have done more clearly. We tried to have a focus on BfA, since that is so close now, but in some cases (like this one) we were still writing with Pre-patch in mind.

Commento di Ryneon

on 2018-08-03T08:53:22-05:00

Stat priority specifics aside, this iteration of Holy Paladin feels disgusting to me. Slow, clunky, and stripped of what I feel are the wonderful things about Holy(I'm looking at you, AoS). Fine, I'll use Devo aura when you force me to. =.=

Commento di Bordi

on 2018-08-03T08:54:40-05:00

whos gonna have less than 30% crit at 120 and actual raid or m+ no one. so yeah may be good while we are boosted and not at 30% crit but end game its a nerf

Pre-Uldir the highest possible Crit gear set will be much less than 30%. I haven't looked at a full Mythic geared setup yet, but 30% Crit is going to take you a long time to reach in BfA with linear secondary stat scaling and the loss of secondary stats on three armor pieces.

Ok very solid point (although i think we will get to 30 quicker than you expect like within 5 weeks then what?. But do you see how much they've taken away from the spec as whole? Anyone who currently plays multiple healers can tell you how clunky holy pally has become. Do you think there will be some changes to actually balance this? I mean right now my RET flash of light does more than holy spec flash of light..... what sense does that make... Ret base flash of light does 3669. Holy Flash of light 2631..... what sense does that make that a healing spell is less powerful in a healing spec vs a dps spec.... I may as well heal as ret with word of glory critting in the 15ks.

Commento di Ryneon

on 2018-08-03T08:55:49-05:00

Text\r\rThanks for expanding upon my feelings so I didn't have to type it all out. Lol.

Commento di Bordi

on 2018-08-03T09:06:50-05:00

Text\r\rThanks for expanding upon my feelings so I didn't have to type it all out. Lol.\r\rNo problem. im just beyond frustrated how bad the spec truly feels now, like i know they put thought into everything but some of these changes you look at and got to wonder did they start on Holy Pally first for pre patch changes and forget about them by the time it came out and never realized how bad they have made them compared to the other healers...i hope they announce something soon on this or i will just do what they want and play another class that actual is fun to play or viable.

Commento di Xalea

on 2018-08-03T09:29:46-05:00

There needs to be a major shakeup at Blizz. New people who know what they\u2019re doing and who won\u2019t jump ship for Overwatch etc. the first chance they get. They need to actually care about the fun factor more and stock price less. They don\u2019t seem to realize if they make the game more engaging they will increase their MAU numbers. It\u2019s all just artificial slowing of the game to squeeze more time out of the player. A sad state for H Paladins.

Commento di ketsui

on 2018-08-03T10:06:47-05:00

its funny reading all these things yet when i go into top m+ healers twitch channels they say holy paladin is the best healer for m+. I guess maybe this was written by a novice? and people commenting haven't touched beta i presume

Commento di Bordi

on 2018-08-03T10:14:30-05:00

its funny reading all these things yet when i go into top m+ healers twitch channels they say holy paladin is the best healer for m+. I guess maybe this was written by a novice? and people commenting haven't touched beta i presume

shhh we are trying to get more out of our spec nothing i stated above was inaccurate they stripped the class naked and left us in the streets of Dalaran.

Commento di Mauthe

on 2018-08-03T10:42:32-05:00

Class feels unfinished now and azerite traits don't appear to be adding much to fill the gaps.\r\rReally wanted to main holy again because they were so fun in legion... rolling over to monk, or shaman maybe until they're fixed.\r\rVery sad.

Commento di Adamselene

on 2018-08-03T11:02:43-05:00

its funny reading all these things yet when i go into top m+ healers twitch channels they say holy paladin is the best healer for m+. I guess maybe this was written by a novice? and people commenting haven't touched beta i presume\r\rThat has more to say about how strong Holy Paladin was in Legion M+ than it does about how we are overall in BfA. Yes, this article was more focused on raiding, but I fail to see why you would think the article was written by novices. We even say in the conclusion " while not as dominant at the top end of the Mythic+ scene as they were late in Legion, Holy Paladins will retain their status as a one of the preferred healers in the format."

Commento di gatovato

on 2018-08-03T11:53:49-05:00

It's very vanilla. \rWhere are the talents or gear that change up the play style?\r\rAlready missing leggos.\rMaybe this necklace and armor will do it, but it seems more stat modifier than ability.

Commento di Bordi

on 2018-08-03T12:10:29-05:00

its funny reading all these things yet when i go into top m+ healers twitch channels they say holy paladin is the best healer for m+. I guess maybe this was written by a novice? and people commenting haven't touched beta i presume\r\rThat has more to say about how strong Holy Paladin was in Legion M+ than it does about how we are overall in BfA. Yes, this article was more focused on raiding, but I fail to see why you would think the article was written by novices. We even say in the conclusion " while not as dominant at the top end of the Mythic+ scene as they were late in Legion, Holy Paladins will retain their status as a one of the preferred healers in the format." \r\r@Adamselene your article was spot on, never listen to someone who turns up to contribute nothing to the discussion.