The main two points for me are that people would prefer to be in their own houses with their children (not separated), and that this is all being
engineered, with OWS currently playing a key role. We can speculate on what would happen post evacuation, but for now we can focus on stopping OWS
and making it harder for the Bankers/Elite to get their way.

A key part of the plan is to take a generation of children away from their parents, that way you can start from scratch on education, removing
religion, conspiracies and anything else that the Elite don't like.

As thejlxc correctly says, our communications will be down. The Elite will write history the way the want to, it won't be the truth, just another
Hollywood-style movie. People outside of the USA will have no way of knowing what's really going on, just strange pandemic or bio-terror stories
which are completely controlled

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
So what would be so bad about a FEMA camp if TSHTF. If your a vulnerable individual with no way of surviving it alone? If a FEMA camp can provide food
and shelter to those who need it, then thats probably better than just letting people die or scrap it out on the streets.

I very much doubt people will be forced into these destinations to be killed , imagine the public outcry around the world. I know America is not the
most popular nation around the world. But I think people might start to notice some mass genocide happening in the land of the free.

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
So what would be so bad about a FEMA camp if TSHTF. If your a vulnerable individual with no way of surviving it alone? If a FEMA camp can provide food
and shelter to those who need it, then thats probably better than just letting people die or scrap it out on the streets.

I very much doubt people will be forced into these destinations to be killed , imagine the public outcry around the world. I know America is not the
most popular nation around the world. But I think people might start to notice some mass genocide happening in the land of the free.

edit on 23-11-2011 by woodwardjnr because: (no reason given)

Normally I don't critisize or really laugh at someone's opinion.

BUT

I apologise in advance.

Those camps could easily become workcamps for unemployed and also serve as overflow detention camps.

If TSHTF, what guarantees would the "government" provide?
Katrina was a failure .... slow response, inadequate accomodations, etc.
AND, that was small scale compared to a nation wide "emergency".

It's actually happened here before, as well as in other countries right in the 20th century!
(Germany, Poland ... )

The Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC) was a public work relief program that operated from 1933 to 1942 in the United States for unemployed,
unmarried men from relief families, ages 18–25. A part of the New Deal of President Franklin D. Roosevelt, it provided unskilled manual labor jobs
related to the conservation and development of natural resources in rural lands owned by federal, state and local governments. The CCC was designed to
provide employment for young men in relief families who had difficulty finding jobs during the Great Depression while at the same time implementing a
general natural resource conservation program in every state and territory. Maximum enrollment at any one time was 300,000; in nine years 2.5 million
young men participated.

Originally posted by usernamehere
A tip of the hat to Dodd and to the OP for sharing. Corruption reigns supreme as the people work against one another. Subscription to ideologies and
their manipulation means we each are capable of being both incarcerator and incarcerated.

Whatever they are about to do to us, they do not want us repopulating again, like we did after WWII when we had a Baby Boom. This is why on this
occasion they've taken the precaution of giving out the fertility reducing injections that we know as Swine Flu and HPV vaccines.

We know from their quotes and The Georgia Guidestones that they want the global population maintained below 500 million

They've said the UK population needs to be maintained below 30 million www.currentconcerns.ch... we're talking about a huge
drop in world population, but the question is, how quickly do they want to do this? Are they willing to wait for the effects of the vaccines to
reduce our population, or will they ruthlessly take us into WWIII, which is what I personally expect to see, and am already seeing the early signs of
in the news each day. e.g today Going ballistic: Russia strikes back with missile
warning

The colorful map in the OP did send a tingle down my spine. Why are the 'red' areas high priority? It seems to me they follow rivers and such.

As far as the situation at large, I do feel there is much out of place in regards to current activities of our govt. as well as the money woes.. so i
ask this?

What would be the point to round the majority up into concentrated areas? yes yes easy control but for what?! control for what purpose? As other posts
state, that act would involve much effort and be costly....tho not costly if tppl making the $ are the ones paying as they can make more $... but
still?

I for one would much rather fend for my own in a 'chaotic' state but that is me.

Originally posted by ThatGuy45
What would be the point to round the majority up into concentrated areas? yes yes easy control but for what?! control for what purpose? As other posts
state, that act would involve much effort and be costly....tho not costly if tppl making the $ are the ones paying as they can make more $... but
still?

I for one would much rather fend for my own in a 'chaotic' state but that is me.

Good questions ThatGuy45!

The Elite/Bankers already have control of the monetary system, they don't need more money, they can print money if ever they need it. They have most
the gold. What they are interested in is power and assets. The use their bottomless pit of money to grab more power every year. Hence cost is never
a problem for them.

When there are things that cannot be bought, they create wars e.g. taking oil off the people of Libya. All the citizens of Libya would receive a
annual share of the Libyan oil profits under Gaddafi. Now they won't. Sometimes they create wars to grab assets, while at other times they create
war to gain more control of the people who they already have some control over. For example, a war on the US mainland would enable them to change
laws and relocate people, whilst also reducing the population, as it's more difficult to control a large number

David Rockefeller's trusted ally Zbigniew Brzezinski said" To put it *pungently*: in earlier times, it was easier to control one million people
than to physically kill one million people; today, it is infinitely easier to kill one million people than to control one million people

Eventually the Banker's want to use their United Nations to control every nation on the planet. The United Nations so-called "Peacekeepers" will have
all of the weapons and armies. Guns will be taken away from individuals. There will be no way to fight back, they'll have complete control,
including over the media, they can tell us whatever they want, like they did with Libya (film studios etc). If they want to reduce fertility rates,
they just call a Pandemic and give us fertility reducing "vaccines". By then we won't have a choice about whether we receive a vaccine, you can see
this by looking through the United Nations website, all their plans for the world, they don't fit in with this world around us now. They have been
designed for after something big has happened, WWIII, it will be relatively easy for them to make us accept their laws if they say they are here to
save us. They will say that the war proves that the system needs to be changes, even though it was them who created the war.

the point is not the fema camps, the point is our resources are beginning the slope downward, our government cant handle the economic situation it has
currently got us in, we are lied to to justify money coming out of my paycheck to kill people in other countries, the point is corporations
consistently will raise prices, drown out competition, and influence the government underhandedly, destroy private business/industry, the point is
that the government thought it was ok to tamper with the genetics of our food supplies, and of future crops for the benefit of a quicker and bigger
buck. this type of turmoil happens to EVERY country in the world on average every 30-100 years, whether it be famine, pandemic, war, civil war, or
financial collapse. this is nothing new, the only thing that is new is the current generation.

What would be the point to round the majority up into concentrated areas? yes yes easy control but for what?! control for what purpose? As other posts
state, that act would involve much effort and be costly....tho not costly if tppl making the $ are the ones paying as they can make more $... but
still?

I for one would much rather fend for my own in a 'chaotic' state but that is me.

A 'chaotic' state may be the result if and when the govt(s) stop paying the welfare.

As long as tax revenues and bond issue borrowing is easy, no problem.

But what if that becomes unmanagable?
(it's close to that already)

Work camps will be the norm,
all run by international corporations, who already control most world governments.

The U.N. will be the "overseer" and U.N. military units will be the police forces.

Wow, he brought this up so long ago and today we have seen it unfold. This man Dodd seems to be telling the truth in my opinion. He had nothing to
gain by lying, except to know the truth was set free.

More interesting to me is what he said is corroborated by some facts, like this for instance:

Dodd's most controversial claim concerns the Ford Foundation president Rowan Gaither, who Dodd alleges told him off the record that ""all of us
[Foundation leaders] that have a hand in the making of policies here have had experience, either with the OSS during the war, or the European Economic
Administration after the war - we've had experience dealing with directives, and these directives emanated from the White House [...] we still operate
under these directives. Would you like to know what the substance of these directives is? [...] Mr. Dodd, we operate under directives, the substance
of which is that we shall use our grant making power so to alter life in the United States that it can be comfortably merged with the Soviet
Union."

Although this is an off record statement, and is a contemporary, not primary, source, the essence of this claim can be corroborated by looking at
other evidence. In 1972, a White House conference led by Roy Ash pushed for the beginning of a World Economic Community around 1990 [5], and in 1985
the United States and the Soviet Union agreed on a merger of education systems, and continued further policy mergers until 1990. The title of the
document corroborating this claim, signed by George Shultz, is The General Agreement Between the Government of the United States of America and the
Government of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics on Contacts, Exchanges, and Cooperation in Scientific, Technical, Cultural, and other fields.[6]
Charlotte Iserbyt was fired from her position as Senior Policy Advisor in the Office of Educational Research and Improvement (OERI), U.S. Department
of Education, for discussing this document.[7]

Originally posted by FallenWun
This is nonsense.
I just drove through one of your boogey man FEMA camps two days ago. I will be GLAD to be rounded up and "kept" there. Mostly because I want to see
how that happens with an empty field. Anyway, no. Turn off Alex Jones once in a while. Do not believe every caller to Coast to Coast.

All FEMA needs is an open feild, When I was in the service we as in "my chalk and 10 more chalks" did 8 square acres in 12ft chain length in less
than 24 hrs. FEMA just wants us in a cage they dont care if its got a roof on it.

Thanks for that response! I followed the majority of what your saying, and what I gather is control. TPTB just want indefinite control of all.

A true leader has everything, yet wants nothing. I would rather die then be force controlled. Currently, I have enough free will ability in my
'controlled' situation so I am content. But I would like to make this point:

No matter what happens, be it Aliens, natural disaster, government control, WW3, or whatever other end game situation you can think of... You always
have a choice. You can only be controlled if you let them. There is always another option, it may not be pretty or even easy, but its there if you can
see it!

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