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If its one thing I can't stand is workout warriors. I cannot believe that Haason Reddick was the choice. But it is what it is.

Williams is a round too early, imo.

I think it has to be Dan Feeney.

Im with you. Feeney would solidly our left guard spot day 1 that I hoped the Big BAMA would take over from Frankenstein but he must really suck

Williams might be a round early- but the kid gets an interception every other game on average- that would be 8 next year for us that we need Turtle I like this projecting game and plays a position of big need for years and years

I personally like Reddick,he has a good story- but he played 14 games last year and his stats aren't that much better than guys who played 11 and some of those games are against teams that D2 schools can beat. We have to adjust the projecting equation before we put it into the cyrosupercalculator thats tells me the kid is a third round talent

Well I project what a pro might do if they get more playing time, not a 2nd round draft pick who I don't think would even start on our team as a rookie.

I'd take Wormley, Adams or Feeney here. We have to build our lines on both sides of the ball more before taking a skill position player, if the talent is worthy of the selection and in this case it is.

In fact, I don't know that Maye or M. Williams is worth a second round pick when you put them up against the value of these 3 lineman - all 3 of which I think would start for us day 1 and have an immediate impact._________________RIP SSFmike23md

Chris Wormley, he's a very good DL. He may never be a pro bowler but I think he could be a starter for this defense day 1 and have an impact.

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Wormley made an impression in his redshirt freshman season of 2013, making 19 tackles, 4.5 for loss, and 2.5 sacks as a reserve. He started six times as a sophomore, recording 21 tackles, five TFL and three sacks. Wormley finished his time "up north" by winning the team's Defensive Lineman of the Year award in each of his final two seasons. He was a third-team All-Big Ten pick in 2015 (14.5 tackles for loss, 6.5 sacks) and a first-team selection in 2016 (nine TFL, six sacks) for the Wolverines.

Chris Wormley, he's a very good DL. He may never be a pro bowler but I think he could be a starter for this defense day 1 and have an impact.

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Wormley made an impression in his redshirt freshman season of 2013, making 19 tackles, 4.5 for loss, and 2.5 sacks as a reserve. He started six times as a sophomore, recording 21 tackles, five TFL and three sacks. Wormley finished his time "up north" by winning the team's Defensive Lineman of the Year award in each of his final two seasons. He was a third-team All-Big Ten pick in 2015 (14.5 tackles for loss, 6.5 sacks) and a first-team selection in 2016 (nine TFL, six sacks) for the Wolverines.

Chris Wormley, he's a very good DL. He may never be a pro bowler but I think he could be a starter for this defense day 1 and have an impact.

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Wormley made an impression in his redshirt freshman season of 2013, making 19 tackles, 4.5 for loss, and 2.5 sacks as a reserve. He started six times as a sophomore, recording 21 tackles, five TFL and three sacks. Wormley finished his time "up north" by winning the team's Defensive Lineman of the Year award in each of his final two seasons. He was a third-team All-Big Ten pick in 2015 (14.5 tackles for loss, 6.5 sacks) and a first-team selection in 2016 (nine TFL, six sacks) for the Wolverines.

Chris Wormley, he's a very good DL. He may never be a pro bowler but I think he could be a starter for this defense day 1 and have an impact.

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Wormley made an impression in his redshirt freshman season of 2013, making 19 tackles, 4.5 for loss, and 2.5 sacks as a reserve. He started six times as a sophomore, recording 21 tackles, five TFL and three sacks. Wormley finished his time "up north" by winning the team's Defensive Lineman of the Year award in each of his final two seasons. He was a third-team All-Big Ten pick in 2015 (14.5 tackles for loss, 6.5 sacks) and a first-team selection in 2016 (nine TFL, six sacks) for the Wolverines.

Chris Wormley, he's a very good DL. He may never be a pro bowler but I think he could be a starter for this defense day 1 and have an impact.

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Wormley made an impression in his redshirt freshman season of 2013, making 19 tackles, 4.5 for loss, and 2.5 sacks as a reserve. He started six times as a sophomore, recording 21 tackles, five TFL and three sacks. Wormley finished his time "up north" by winning the team's Defensive Lineman of the Year award in each of his final two seasons. He was a third-team All-Big Ten pick in 2015 (14.5 tackles for loss, 6.5 sacks) and a first-team selection in 2016 (nine TFL, six sacks) for the Wolverines.

I'm not sure what's not to like about Wormely and why we would pass on him in round 2... His final two years at Michigan he had 23.5 TFL and 12.5 sacks.

Who wouldn't want that as our 5-tech/RDE on our defense for the next 5-10 years?

If we were playing roulette with the draft I'd bet he ends up with the steelers- perfect fit and kind of pick they make

Yeah and he'll probably play like a pro bower while we pass on him, just like when we passed on Tuitt to trade back in 2014.

1. Has Tuitt ever been to a pro bowl?

2. You love Trent Murphy and Spencer Long so why are you complaining?

3. Your boy Bruce Allen did that trade.

I said "play like a pro bowler" meaning a pro bowl caliber player. I'm sorry I couldn't write it in a way where you could understand what I meant.

And yes, I do like Murphy and Long but I didn't agree with that trade down because I wanted Tuitt in the draft and he was available with our original pick.

It is possible to like the players we drafted but to also like the player we passed on when we traded down more, isn't it?

Or are you going to come up with some kind of stupid rule that a poster can't be against trading down and passing on a player but then end up also liking the players we ended up drafting as wel?

You don't have to make this so hard. You're hatred for me is ridiculous.

It just seems like you always want to play both sides. You whined for months after we made that trade down, but now if anyone criticizes Spencer Long or Trent Murphy's play you jump all over them. If we hadn't of traded down Spencer Long wouldn't be on the team._________________

If its one thing I can't stand is workout warriors. I cannot believe that Haason Reddick was the choice. But it is what it is.

Williams is a round too early, imo.

I think it has to be Dan Feeney.

Im with you. Feeney would solidly our left guard spot day 1 that I hoped the Big BAMA would take over from Frankenstein but he must really suck

Williams might be a round early- but the kid gets an interception every other game on average- that would be 8 next year for us that we need Turtle I like this projecting game and plays a position of big need for years and years

I personally like Reddick,he has a good story- but he played 14 games last year and his stats aren't that much better than guys who played 11 and some of those games are against teams that D2 schools can beat. We have to adjust the projecting equation before we put it into the cyrosupercalculator thats tells me the kid is a third round talent

Well I project what a pro might do if they get more playing time, not a 2nd round draft pick who I don't think would even start on our team as a rookie.

I'd take Wormley, Adams or Feeney here. We have to build our lines on both sides of the ball more before taking a skill position player, if the talent is worthy of the selection and in this case it is.

In fact, I don't know that Maye or M. Williams is worth a second round pick when you put them up against the value of these 3 lineman - all 3 of which I think would start for us day 1 and have an immediate impact.

Well Bro you keep on projecting, I'm focusing on projecting how many more 20 something coeds I can find with daddy issues

If its one thing I can't stand is workout warriors. I cannot believe that Haason Reddick was the choice. But it is what it is.

Williams is a round too early, imo.

I think it has to be Dan Feeney.

Im with you. Feeney would solidly our left guard spot day 1 that I hoped the Big BAMA would take over from Frankenstein but he must really suck

Williams might be a round early- but the kid gets an interception every other game on average- that would be 8 next year for us that we need Turtle I like this projecting game and plays a position of big need for years and years

I personally like Reddick,he has a good story- but he played 14 games last year and his stats aren't that much better than guys who played 11 and some of those games are against teams that D2 schools can beat. We have to adjust the projecting equation before we put it into the cyrosupercalculator thats tells me the kid is a third round talent

Well I project what a pro might do if they get more playing time, not a 2nd round draft pick who I don't think would even start on our team as a rookie.

I'd take Wormley, Adams or Feeney here. We have to build our lines on both sides of the ball more before taking a skill position player, if the talent is worthy of the selection and in this case it is.

In fact, I don't know that Maye or M. Williams is worth a second round pick when you put them up against the value of these 3 lineman - all 3 of which I think would start for us day 1 and have an immediate impact.

Well Bro you keep on projecting, I'm focusing on projecting how many more 20 something coeds I can find with daddy issues