The country is one of the world's largest producers of eggs and poultry.

Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Nepal have already banned the import of poultry products from India.

But P Valsan, secretary of the All India Poultry Products Exporters' Association, said the main worry was whether the Middle East would also enforce a ban.

"This is a major market for the export of eggs and other poultry products which are then sent on to the European Union and Japan," he told the BBC.

"If this continues, we expect a loss of around 500m rupees ($11.2m).

Off the menu

Poultry traders have asked the Indian government to urge people not to panic.

Sales of poultry have come down across the country, with chicken prices in major cities said to have come down by 40%.

Some restaurants in Mumbai (Bombay) and Delhi are have taken chicken off the menu.

One of Delhi's oldest restaurants, Karim's, said it has stopped serving chicken since Monday.

"Nobody has ordered us to do it but we felt we should take the step as a precautionary measure," the restaurant's managing director, Zaimuddin Ahmed told the BBC.

State-owned airlines Indian and the country's largest carrier, Jet Airways, have also dropped chicken from their in-flight meals.

Indian Railways has banned the serving of chicken or eggs "in any form" from all its services.

Seven new patients, mostly children, showing flu-like symptoms have been quarantined in a hospital in Navapur where the H5N1 strain was found, PP Doke, the Maharashtra's health department director, told the BBC.

On Saturday, two people were quarantined.

Mr Doke said the children had handled dead birds in the farms.

Meanwhile the slaughter of chicken continues in Navapur and is expected to be finished by Wednesday evening.

A thousand birds were found dead in Hingoli town, the state animal husbandry minister, Anees Ahmed, told the BBC. Samples have already been sent to a laboratory for tests.

The H5N1 virus does not pose a large-scale threat to humans, as it cannot pass easily from one person to another.

Experts, however, fear the virus could mutate to gain this ability, and in its new form trigger a flu pandemic, potentially putting millions of human lives at risk.

Po' ol muslims just cain't take any ribbing.. they are that poor in their self confidence?

Jesus is probably having a laugh at this cartoon... Ol Mo is not!

Reality is in the eye and interpretation of the beholder.

And -- So.. who's to say it isn't a picture of Jesus kissing Mo on the cheek, trying to get that old licentious hornswaggler to puh - leese get his clothes back on, as Jesus isn't interested that much in the soon to decompose flesh anyway....

Ol Mo would of course foster 'the Tunnel of Tolerance'.... He is not about Love. Ol Satan desires to foster Tolerance in this earth.

"Tolerance" of course is just above " stuffed frustration" in emotions. Not a virtue at all. Not at all!

Not at all like the true virtue of "Patience" which is Paying Attention To Inner Experience Now, Consciously, Earnestly -- then taking one step at a time, knowing the outcome is going to be wonderful, according to His Plan.

Why should anyone 'tolerate' low standards? Violence? Terrorism? Should we tolerate rapists? People who behead Christian schoolchildren? People who are determined to kill all Jews? And kill all Christians. And stone the women who were raped? sheesh! Should we tolerate serial killers? Suicide bombers? Sure, why not. They will just interpret tolerance as agreement and weakness. And the beat goes on.

"Tolerance" is not anywhere near Love which is a real act and quite often a noble decision.

My geek grass cutting friend explained that Version 7 upgrade of Antivir (which he had me download) scans everything, but everything, and that's what is causing my computer to slow down. He says the 'virus' that Antivir found was not a virus but a 'key code' generator that he put in when he upgraded this pc to XP.

He may be over tomorrow to tweak some settings in Antivir so I can get back up to speed... and then he'll be over Weds. to cut the grass. I hope! :-)

This guy is an ex-opera singer, ex-car salesman, and majored in nuclear physics in graduate school. But like me he can't work for anyone. ha ha. He is a genius at pc repairs (which is developing into his new career, not bad at age 49), and an artist at Feng Shui-ing my front garden. I asked him how did he learn about Feng-shui? He said he minored in Botany in college..

I finally let him tear out all the weeds in my 'natural Florida eco preserve'...

Then Mom, Paula and everyone eating will love the JerkyDirect. Please go to the website http://www.heavenly.jerkydirect.com/ and get on autoship. It's better than in the store, and no more expensive. You can even make Chipped Beef A la Mode with it. (or Turkey A la mode) Or snack on it. No pesticides.

Lo carb, low fat. Satisfies hunger healthily. Might help get your diets back on track. I'm sassy and happy too. :-) Just got back from Irish Tavern and had beer, tuna salad platter, and chicken wings.

My computer is acting funny. Got rid of a virus today, but still doing strange stuff.. will have to get the geek back here.

deexxoo

TSalv--wrote:

Mom eats whatever we fix. We are doing a lot of soups right now and cakes. Paula and Tony eat beef; I'll do hamburger if I can have it in chili, but prefer not. I'll eat Pork, but stay away from poultry as it just gags me.

Our diets are out the window right now. To quote Grandmother, we're fat, sassy and happy.

And it would be much appreciated if you would put it on autoship for delivery every month. Then you would be getting it wholesale. Very reasonable, and good! No hormones, no preservatives, no pesticides, no artificial stuff. Even some are organic! You see, if 6 of you do this, then ours is free! And if you do the same, yours is free too! Even free shipping. :-) Thanks, Dee and Roy xxoo See our Jerky Blog: http://beefandturkeyjerky.blogspot.com/

Monday, February 20, 2006

One nay-saying (there's always nay-saying against the president, whoever he or she may be) economist in the below article said the government ought to "raise the gas tax" to "force us to change our driving habits."

Oh really? This economist is showing his ignorance of human nature. duh! Raising our taxes would cause resentment and more blame heaped on the 'government', but sure wouldn't force us to 'change our driving habits' much. What with our growing population and increasing technological needs, we will need more energy as time goes on. I love it that Bush is pointing out that we can "each become 'power generators' that can even sell our excess electricity to the power company." http://apnews.myway.com//article/20060221/D8FT7V980.html

There are people and MLM companies already doing this! This will be glorious not to be dependent on Venezuela's Hugo Chavez's meglomaniacal moves, not to be dependent on Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, et al. We can each, independently be our own 'power generators' and collectively, as a nation truly be independent. It's feasible if the doom-and-gloomers (who are picturing all U.S. citizens being put into concentration camps, etc.), the nay-sayers don't boo hiss it all down. There appears to be just such people that blindly want to 'be right', to be able to say, 'I told you so, I knew it wouldn't work, yadayada,.." and want everybody miserable - like them.

MILWAUKEE (AP) - Saying the nation is on the verge of technological breakthroughs that would "startle" most Americans, President Bush on Monday outlined his energy proposals to help wean the country off foreign oil.

Less than half the crude oil used by refineries is produced in the United States, while 60 percent comes from foreign nations, Bush said during the first stop on a two-day trip to talk about energy.

Some of these foreign suppliers have "unstable" governments that have fundamental differences with America, he said.

"It creates a national security issue and we're held hostage for energy by foreign nations that may not like us," Bush said.

(AP) President George Bush, talks with Pete Beverly after presenting Beverly with a Volunteer Service...Full Image

Bush is focusing on energy at a time when Americans are paying high power bills to heat their homes this winter and have only recently seen a decrease in gasoline prices.

One of Bush's proposals would expand research into smaller, longer-lasting batteries for electric-gas hybrid cars, including plug-ins. He highlighted that initiative with a visit Monday to the battery center at Milwaukee-based auto-parts supplier Johnson Controls Inc. (JCI)

During his trip, Bush is also focusing on a proposal to increase investment in development of clean electric power sources, and proposals to speed the development of biofuels such as "cellulosic" ethanol made from wood chips or sawgrass.

Energy conservation groups and environmentalists say they're pleased that the president, a former oil man in Texas, is stressing alternative sources of energy, but they contend his proposals don't go far enough. They say the administration must consider greater fuel-efficiency standards for cars, and some economists believe it's best to increase the gas tax to force consumers to change their driving habits.

During his visit to Johnson Controls' new hybrid battery laboratory, Bush checked out two Ford Escapes - one with a nickel-metal-hybrid battery, the kind that powers most hybrid-electric vehicles, and one with a lithium-ion battery, which Johnson Controls believes are the wave of the future. The lithium-ion battery was about half the size of the older-model battery. In 2004, Johnson Controls received a government contract to develop the lithium-ion batteries.

(AP) President Bush stands infront of a solar cell processor as he speaks to members of the media...Full Image

On Tuesday, Bush plans to visit the Energy Department's National Renewable Energy Laboratory in Golden, Colo., to talk about speeding the development of biofuels.

The lab, with a looming $28 million budget shortfall, had announced it was cutting its staff by 32 people, including eight researchers. But in advance of Bush's visit, Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman over the weekend directed the transfer of $5 million to the private contractor that runs the lab, so the jobs can be saved.

The department "has been informed that the NREL lab director will use these funds to immediately restore all of the jobs that were cut earlier this month due to budget shortfalls," the department said in a statement Monday.

"Our nation is on the threshold of new energy technology that I think will startle the American people," Bush said. "We're on the edge of some amazing breakthroughs - breakthroughs all aimed at enhancing our national security and our economic security and the quality of life of the folks who live here in the United States."

Later Monday, Bush visited the United Solar Ovonics Plant, which makes solar panels, in Auburn Hills, Mich., outside Detroit. "This technology right here is going to help us change the way we live in our homes," Bush told reporters.

Bush said he was impressed with the growing commercial uses of solar energy.

"Roof makers will one day be able to make a solar roof that protects you from the elements and at the same time, powers your house," Bush said. "The vision is this - that technology will become so efficient that you'll become a little power generator in your home, and if you don't use the energy you generate you'll be able to feed it back into the electricity grid."

Saturday, February 18, 2006

The press is devoting blanket coverage to Vice President Dick Cheney's hunting accident on Saturday, where he injured a friend while the two were quail shooting in Texas.

But the media didn't think it was such a big deal five years ago, when Sen. Hillary Clinton injured a police officer who was manning a security post at the Westchester County Airport while she was rushing to a fundraiser.

Santa Ana, CA ? A woman was rushed to the hospital by ambulance on Saturday, February 11, 2006 after a botched abortion at Clinica Medica Para La Mujer De Hoy located in Santa Ana, California. Pro-life sidewalk counselor Tim Nissen had the presence of mind to photograph the incident with a cell phone camera.

According to Nissen, the woman was ?awake and screaming? as she was wheeled from the front door of the abortion mill and loaded into an awaiting ambulance.

Nissan indicated that he had never before seen the abortionist who was on duty that day.

?As this drama was unfolding a couple walked up who had scheduled an abortion,? reported fellow sidewalk counselor Luis Mendoza. ?Tim used the incident to change their minds.? The couple decided against having an abortion, and indicated that they would be keeping their baby.

The Santa Ana office of Clinica Medica Para La Mujer De Hoy is part of a chain of extremely troubled abortion mills owned by restaurateur Bertha Bugarin. In the past five years, three of her abortionists have lost their medical licenses, one abortionist dropped out of sight after being exposed as having no medical license, and two abortionists have been convicted of sex crimes ranging from groping to sexual assault on a patient.

?We call on the State of California to immediately and permanently halt activities at the five Clinica Medica abortion mills and conduct a full investigation into their obviously shoddy and unsafe practices,? said Operation Rescue spokesperson Cheryl Sullenger, who conducted pro-life outreaches at So. California abortion mills for over 20 years.

?The list of women butchered and/or sexually abused by this particular group of abortion mills is as long as my arm,? said Sullenger. ?It is an appalling fact that they target predominately Hispanic women who are less likely to complain to authorities when things go wrong. There is a very real public safety consideration here and the State is exhibiting great negligence in not closing down this chain of chop shops for good.?

_____________________________________About Operation Rescue Operation Rescue is one of the leading pro-life Christian organizations in the nation. Its activities are on the cutting edge of the abortion issue, taking direct action to restore legal personhood to the pre- born and stop abortion in obedience to biblical mandates.

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Subject: 66 Year old Juror Persecuted by State Attorney-General Wasden - Support for Carol is needed

For Immediate ReleaseFebruary 1, 2006

Conscientious Juror Persecuted by State of Idaho

66-year old retired school teacher charged with felony for exercising rights as juror

Kamiah, Idaho - Feb 1: Carol Asher, a 66-year old retired nun and school teacher faces the possibility of 14 years in prison for exercising her right to free speech in the privacy and sanctity of the jury deliberation room. What did she say? As nearly as we have been able to learn, she may have told the other jurors that ultimately, she answered to a Higher Authority than the judge. Now she has been charged by Lawrence G. Wasden, who is the Idaho Attorney General, by Stephen A. Bywater, who is Deputy Attorney General, Chief, Criminal Division, and by Justin D. Whatcott, who is Deputy Attorney General, all of whom work for the people of the state of Idaho, with felony perjury for speaking her mind within the confidentiality of the jury deliberation room.

What??

Yes, you read that right. I'll get into the details in a minute, but first, Let's review a few basic rights which our government is supposed to protect: Freedom of Religion; freedom of speech; freedom of conscience; the right to trial by a jury of your peers; privacy.

No, that's not all our rights and freedoms. In fact, besides those few rights everybody knows about from the Bill of Rights, we have all other rights not specifically and explicitly granted to our hired government so that it can do a better job of protecting our rights. For instance, we granted the government the agency to represent us in negotiations with other countries, and to declare war. That means neither you nor I think it is feasible for us, as individuals, to negotiate with countries or declare war. Okay, maybe. I'll let that one rest for now. But we retain all rights. In fact, the Bill of Rights does not "grant" rights, because we already have them. We used our rights to establish government, and the Bill of Rights is simply a list of pre-existing rights by which we informed government that it was not to even consider infringing.

And we do have the right - we could not give it away if we wanted to, because it is an intrinsic part of our identity as humans - to make decisions based on our own conscience. Carol never gave up that right while she was in the courtroom, serving as a juror, or at any other time. No oath administered to any juror can deprive us of that right.

Since when did free speech become a felony? If jurors are not to deliberate, to freely discuss their impressions and ideas, if jurors are not allowed by the state to hold open, honest consultation with each other in a trusting and truthful fashion, then why do we have juries?

If every juror who serves on a jury must guard his or her tongue in the privacy of the jury deliberation room, fearful of making a statement which will be reported to the prosecutor or the defense attorney or judge by some jury snitch, then what happened to the privacy, the sanctity, and the confidentiality of jury deliberations?

Have we reached the time in the history of our once great nation when jurors must be provided with a list of phrases - perhaps even words - which they cannot utter in the jury deliberation room, under pain of prison?

Have we reached a time in our courts when jurors will be punished for refusing to render a verdict according to the demands of the government, when jurors will be punished if they refuse to ignore their conscience and blindly accept the orders of the judge as the supreme law of the land? Have we reached a time when to hold the moral and religious reservations held by the majority of the people in this country- those reservations which allow us all to consult our own conscience, to rely upon our own guiding principles and religious teachings - must be ignored, set aside?

Must we, when we serve on a jury, no matter how reprehensible a verdict of guilty might be to our conscience, vote guilty if that is the verdict dictated by the tight confines of government instructions? And will we then be singled out, from among the many voting not guilty, if we have the courage and the moral strength to share our thoughts and our reasoning with the other jurors?

Carol respectfully listened to the evidence of the case - it was another of those apparently slam-dunk drug cases against a minority young male, in this case, he was Indian, not Hispanic or black - and thoughtfully considered what she had heard, as well as what she did not hear. She was a thinking, attentive, and conscientious juror, and tried to do her best to pay attention to all the facts and to render a just verdict.

Carol was one of four jurors who voted "not guilty." Yet, because she was open and honest in her remarks to the other jurors, not realizing there might be some snitch in the room who would not respect the confidentiality of jury room proceedings, she has been singled out to be prosecuted for felony perjury. One must ask "why?" Well, as it turns out, Carol also works with a civil liberties group which criticizes a lot of the silly and abusive actions meted out by government officials against private citizens. She has the courage to ask questions. We think that may be why she has been singled out for this harassment, tyrannical prosecution and general legal hazing.

Some other juror, perhaps unhappy that Carol honestly said what was on her mind, went to rat her out to the prosecuting attorney. Well, sure, the prosecutor wanted to win. Forget justice: these days, those government employees go for blood, to polish their conviction rate record. And now they are after Carol, singling her out to punish for thwarting their prosecution, just because they think they can get away with it.

The state employees named in the first paragraph certainly know they will lose this one on appeal, but they can meanwhile cause Carol a lot of stress and a lot of financial hardship. By their actions, if their nasty little ploy works, they will scare other jurors in to a state of meekness and obedience to the state and the government employees. No more questions. No more thinking. A nice, neat rubber-stamping of the charges brought against anyone. This is a prosecutor's dream come true. Carol interfered with a slam-dunk for the state lawyers, and she is being punished for being honest about her thinking. But, don't we want jurors to think?

Why do we have juries in this country, anyway?

We all understand that juries protect society from dangerous individuals. But how many, today, recall that juries are also empowered to protect individuals from dangerous government prosecutions and unjust laws?

Jurors have a duty and responsibility to render a just verdict. They must take into account the facts of the case, mitigating circumstances, the merits of the law, and the fairness of its application in each case. Our recognition of the authority and right of jurors to weigh the merits of the law and to render a verdict based on conscience, dates from before the writing of our Constitution, in cases such as those of William Penn, while still in London, who was tried for breaking the King's law against preaching the Quaker religion. His jury refused to convict him although the judge ordered the jury to find him guilty. When the jury refused, the judge had several jurors jailed until a higher court ruled that jurors could not be punished for their verdict. Penn later came to America and founded Pennsylvania.

No country has protected free _expression more than has the United States, and no case in American history stands as a greater landmark on the road to protection for freedom of the press than the trial of German immigrant printer John Peter Zenger. On August 5, 1735, twelve New York jurors, inspired by the eloquence of the best lawyer of the period, Andrew Hamilton, ignored the instructions of the Governor's hand-picked judges and returned a verdict of "Not Guilty" on the charge of publishing "seditious libels." The Zenger trial marked the beginning of a free press, and was an eloquent declaration of the stubborn independence of American jurors. Those jurors insisted that they would not be bullied by the instructions of the judges, but would remain free-thinking, independent citizens, exercising their minds as well as their consciences to render a just verdict. That was their responsibility as jurors, and their human right.

Should this right ever be suppressed, the people will retain the right to resist, having an unalienable right to veto or nullify bad and oppressive laws, and in fact, would be morally compelled to do so.

Jurors, as the representatives of the people, hold no personal agenda during any trial and most certainly not the government's agenda. Let us not forget that the prosecutors, judges, arresting officers - and the forensic investigators in most cases - are all a part of and receive their paychecks from government, with personal power bases to build and personal careers to protect through the "productivity" of successful prosecutions resulting in convictions. Jurors have no such stake in the outcome, and are, in fact, the only truly objective individuals in the courtroom.

Our current form of government was organized, hired and strictly limited by our founding private citizens to protect our rights, not arbitrate those rights. Juries were intended as the protectors against government's power-hungry expansion and the resultant rise of tyranny. The primary role of our jurors remains that or serving as an independent body to protect private citizens from dangerous, unconstitutional government laws and actions. Many existing laws erode and deny the rights of the people. Jurors protect against tyranny by refusing to convict harmless people. Juries are the last peaceful defense of our civil liberties.

Our country's founders planned and expected that we, the people, would exercise this power and authority to judge the law as well as the facts every time we serve as jurors. What a person holds as justice in their personal, private conscience and what decisions a person chooses in the privacy of their own mind, are not susceptible to nor dependent upon any external authority, direction or written law, but are the sole province of the individual, reasoning mind.

The concept and right of sovereign juror authority is not a right derived from any legal reasoning. It requires no citations to legitimize it. It is a right that permeates the very concept of being human. Human rights come before government: our government was formed by free humans to protect human rights, not to grant them. While our government may have been flawed, it yet rests on an excellent set of controlling concepts from which it was formed. Human rights were what our government was designed to protect. These rights, including the right of the individual juror to make a decision based on rational and responsible thought and individual conscience, transcend all legislation and legal rulings and is above any modification or apportionment by any lawyer or politician in our form of government.

The concept and right of sovereign juror authority requires no citations to legitimize it: it is a concept as solid and unalienable as our right to life. While discussions of citations and rulings are of interest, the core authority is not derived from the words of other humans, but from our personal, individual inherent sense of our self-ownership and our individual responsibility toward life and all that implies.

Is our system of justice failing, or is this a failure of government employees of the state of Idaho to understand the role of the juror and the law? It certainly isn't a failure on the part of our conscientious citizen jurors nor should former teacher and nun, Carol Asher be held to account for the legitimate exercise of her rights of reason and conscience. All thinking Idahoans should rise to her defense, in righteous indignation, and in outrage over the arrogant, despotic actions of state Attorney-General Wasden, and his staff, all of whom are complicit in an official conspiracy to deny human, civil, and jurist rights, in defiant opposition to the clear dictates of our Constitution.

I thought you guys might be interested in the following Idaho happenings:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd161.htm

Bill

P.S. Hey Don, thanks for the article on South Dakota Judicial Accountability in your last issue of The Idaho Observer! http://proliberty.com/observer/20060111.htmBut if you can, re-post our website as www.SouthDakotaJudicialAccountability.comand our email as SDJA@SouthDakotaJudicialAccountability.com Thanks!

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Wednesday, February 15, 2006

MINNEAPOLIS, Feb 15 (Reuters) - When burying a body in the backyard, don't put it too close to the septic system. That was one piece of advice offered on Wednesday to a business conference on preparing for a potentially lethal bird flu pandemic.

Preparations for a global flu pandemic, which many experts believe is overdue, have begun but the grisly details are horrific and the number of sick could quickly overwhelm the health care system.

Needed supplies of even common medical supplies such as surgical masks and gloves are in doubt, not to mention the syringes needed for an as-yet undeveloped vaccine and costly mechanical ventilators.

The H5N1 avian flu virus that has infected flocks on at least three continents and killed 91 people could be the virus that experts fear will mutate into a highly pathogenic form that kills hundreds of millions of people in a matter of weeks or months.

In Seattle, public health officials are weighing the ramifications of hospitals overwhelmed by hundreds of thousands of sick people and the need for thousands of body bags.

"We talk about how people should bury their dead in their backyards, how far from the septic systems," said Dorothy Teeter, director of the King County public health department in Seattle. "In case you're wondering, it's $20 apiece for high-quality body bags. In New Orleans (after Hurricane Katrina) they had to double-bag bodies."

Refrigerated trucks will be needed to ship and store food and medicines and will not be available for corpses, a mistake made by federal authorities who commandeered trucks after Katrina, said James Caverly of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

Communicating the truth will be important to deter civil unrest, several experts told the conference. Up until six months ago, the Department of Health and Human Services was planning privately for a pandemic but saying little publicly, said communications consultant Peter Sandman.

The shift may be due to President George W. Bush reading John Barry's "The Great Influenza," an account of the 1918 influenza pandemic during which government assured the public that it was just another seasonal flu outbreak, Sandman said. At the time, Barry said many communities were brought to a near standstill, with people afraid to talk to each other or care for the sick.

"When you mislead people, when you over-reassure people ... they feel less trusting, and they behave much worse," Sandman said.

Conference participants from corporations, interest groups, and government met to discuss revising just-in-time supply concepts in order to stockpile, shutting down and restarting facilities in pandemic-hit countries, and cross-training employees and bringing back retirees to replace a significant portion of their employees that might become sick, decide not to come to work, or die.

If companies stockpile masks and antiviral drugs such as Tamiflu, conference participants wondered if tax breaks would be enacted to defray the cost of preparing.

The dilemma for producers of syringes and the like is that increasing factory capacity for a one-time sale for a pandemic is bad business practice.

Meanwhile, government will have to address public skepticism about its ability to prepare for a pandemic, the official in charge of emergency preparedness at the Department of Health and Human Services said.

There is yet another nutcase running around the internet yelling "The Sky is Falling, The Sky is Falling". This gem goes by the name of Mitch Bawdross (no relations) and proclaims the end is near. This fine specimen uses this nicely planned scare tactic in the same vain as others. He states: "eventually to culminate in catastrophic upheavals" , surely followed by "but before you go be sure and check out my website and buy my book, "Lunar Rain."

I guess this goes along the lines of yet another nutcase who goes by the name Stan Dayo (wrong spelling, so it can't possibly be Stan Deyo) who often finds some idiot radio host to let him on the air to literally say (yell): "RED ALERT ? RED ALERT the continental plates are about to crack any minute now. Run, run quickly; but before you go be sure and by my book "Lunarcy Reigns". I wonder why Stan wouldn't come and talk on my radio program? Well, I'll fix him! I'll just try to smear him all over the internet and expose myself.

Not one single scientists has come forward to support this theoretical conjecture which references "psychics" (no relations to "psychicks" as it's authority. I'm open to such events, but I will need tangible evidence of its claimed "meaning". This is to say, any novice knows of the Earth's wobble driven by the Sun, as it reflects directly the "Equation". Richard Gross, a JPL geophysicist, reports that the principal cause of the Chandler wobble is fluctuating pressure on the bottom of the ocean, caused by temperature and salinity changes and wind-driven changes in the circulation of the oceans.

Most amateur and novice researchers are also mostly familiar with the Earth's precession, but this in no way suggest (sic) any such analogy as produced by Mitch Bawdross whose main source of confirmation is based on a "psychic". In other words more woo-woo babble based on gathered material and presented in a disjointed non-sensible manner. So?

I would simply ask for someone to present "endorsements" of Mitch's unconfirmed, un-corroborated, non-endorsed, mystical woo-woo analogy. Oh yes, I've had the taste of mud before, and will gladly take another bit if even one of you can produce and substantial credible evidence supporting his assertion that a "Pole Shift" is occurring.

This wacko is not suggesting a "magnetic pole shift" but a "crustal shift" and to put in his own words: "eventually to culminate in catastrophic upheavals." Haven't we heard this babble before? Why yes we did. Haven't even I suggested it? Go way back, way back, and research some of my earlier net missiles. Who can remember Richard Noone? That's right, the nutcase who said we would experience a "crustal displacement" on 5-5-2000 and we would all perish.

Here is (sic) the "real" facts backed up by the highest esteemed experts acknowledged throughout the world. Dr. Gary Glatzmaier and Dr. Peter Olson. Household words.

Government Bill Look UpDo a search for Chemtrails : http://thomas.loc.gov/ Compare Bills HR2977 and HR3616 - Does this mean that Chemtrails and the others mentioned are 'Weapons' that are 'already developed' which are not included in the banning of space weapons?

Several years ago I read on a government website (navy.mil) how the U.S. Navy and three American universities in cooperation had done extensive experiments over several months in the early 1990's with comparing chemically caused 'contrails' appearances under infrared photographing, with ordinary clouds. The chemically induced clouds were much different under infrared and ultraviolet filters and even somewhat noticeably different with the naked eye. These were done with 'drones', unmanned and radio-controlled aircraft in the midwest United States. Also if I remember correctly, temperature, radio wave reflectivity and other readings were gathered. I don't seem to be able to find any reference in the web to these experiments now. Maybe there's a way to track them down through cached websites in search engines.

I've seen locally how the Florida TV and Homestead Airforce Reserve here claimed once it was practice war games with aluminum chaff ... yup... And all the while they are blatantly voicing things that don't make any sense, don't square with the observed photo's and experiences, dates, times etc. I've had Navy personnel (sometimes the military people are the most brainwashed) look at me like I'm nuts.. and I happen to know how nutty some of these individuals' personal lives are from first hand experience.. Years of photographing chemtrails, video'ing them and getting ill http://heavenlyhands.net/globalrumblings/chemtrails.html (ouch!) from them have convinced me. And how about the 4+ years ongoing skin problem I'm now having.. is it from a spider bite or is it Morgellons from chemtrail's. One of my doctor's does believe it's Morgellons! Bless her for not being ignorant and arrogant! (Thankfully, I've finally found a protocol and it's clearing up this last month!)

But who am I to be believed? I consider myself a "mad scientist", but I guess the outside world probably sees me as a nutty grandmom.

Thank God for a few faithful, believing friends, and a few dear family members, a supportive husband, and including a grandson and daughter who happily photographed some them for us! deexxoo

Ten Problems Discovering Chemtrails

� Problem 1You wake up one day and notice streams of lines formed by jets high up in the atmosphere. You wake up the next day and once again, the ubiquitous lines are there. You notice crosses, grids and bends. You think to yourself that is not normal. Then you notice day after day that the skyis always a whiteout (unless cumulus clouds are present), yet when you woke at six in the morning you had a blue sky as you have been accustomed to all your life. By the time, you arrive at work the sun is hidden by what you could only describe as a fuzzy haze. Perhaps you ask some friends have theynoticed anything odd and they usually look at you blankly. Therefore, you go to the internet and after a while discover the term chemtrails. From thatmoment on your life changes.

Problem 2The name CHEMTRAILS, coined by Will Thomas, is a starting point. Ha ha you think, I have discovered what is happening. You start to investigate, and your stomach hits the floor, you cannot believe your eyes. White NATO jets are deliberately spraying chemicals such as barium and aluminium into the sky. Why? You ask yourself. Again, why would our politicians condone such madness? Your stomach hits the floor again as you discover the effect of the toxins on all planet life. You start to ask your friends: "do you know what those white lines are in the sky?" "Yeah, they're jet trails." Some may even tell you they are contrails, but you instantly start to tell them: "Well actually, they are chemtrails, as contrails dissipate after a few seconds." You are then asked to explain what 'chemtrails' are. You soon discover that your friends and family turn off and ignore what you are saying as they mutter: "have you been on Prozac?"At this point, most people give up and think to themselves, "yeah its just normal air traffic" and go back to being sheeple, although always at the back oftheir mind they know something is wrong. Some, however, decide to carry out more research.

Problem 3Knowing that you are not on any prescribed or illicit drugs, you pursue your research and you discover other sites and groups of people who haveseen and heard about chemtrails. You pluck up the courage to ask questions about your new subject and then it starts to get really complicated, no onecan tell you exactly why chemtrails are being sprayed, a multitude of theories start to come into your new world view. "Its to save the planet" some say, "it's mind control" shout others, "its a silly old conspiracy" "it's a mass population cull" "its about the control of water" or "it's aliens" etc.If you try to explain to family and friends, they'll tell you that it's becoming an obsession and there are many more things in life that are moreimportant than chemtrails. You go back to the sheeple with a fuddled mind. Really intrepid explorers continue and start to take a more direct approach.

Problem 4You start to ask questions of those who you think would be knowledgeable: "sorry it is not part of our current activism" (Greenpeace); "we are looking at it" (The Green Party); "What are you, a mad man?" (the media). Moreover, you hit those who know the term, but do not want to know: "it's a conspiracy; go back to work" Baaaa.

Problem 5Debunkers: By the tone of your enquires and your genuine interest to find the underlying cause of the problem, you start to send outvibes which are intercepted by the professionals. A pilot may take you under his wing and explain it is just a conspiracy: "I have been flying for twentyyears and it is just down to the amount of air traffic these day old buddy" or " Nah! It is just plain old contrails, nothing to worry about " You, thinking that it cannot be that simple. start to hit these people with some facts: " But Will Thomas and Jeff Rense say this and that (etc.)" Then you hit the professional debunker mode as you progress with your information: " Rense, Thomas, don't be a fool. They are just playing on your naivety." ( this is classic projection seen with debunkers like Jay Reynolds, resident debunker at www.chemtrailcentral.com and alleged agent http://worldzone.net/science/reality2u30/threats.html et. al.) they want to sell you books and videos. Once you have made contact with a professionaldebunker and you overcome the flight explorer scenario, look at these pictures from 1945, this professional said this, look at this scientific report. Jay Reynolds is also disputing Will Thomas on barium and aluminium tests found in chemtrails. Remember your etheric vision does not work on chemicals.Break 1At this point your get a break. Someone leaks some new information: an insider blows the whistle on the whole chemtrail project. You discoverthe term geoengineering. You hope that with this new scientific term and information you can retrace your steps, go back to the media, organisepolitical action, get something done. Your family and friends will forgive you for your obsession, you were right all along. You were the smart one.They should have listened (momentarily forgetting about the debunkers and how hard it is to prove leaked information, without an actual contact nameand address). The big guns are rolled out. Will Thomas debunks the whole article, and you sink down into depression and wonder if 2 billion areactually going to die. And piece by piece, the story is rubbished. Your hero steps in and he debunks the story.You have already put the information out there expecting mass action to stop the madness. Now association rubbishes you. At this point, you should really give up and join the herd.

Problem 6Other serious researchers and thinkers start to help you, they have seen the debunker attacks coming for miles they know that some very sincere people just give up under the torrent of debunker abuse. They point you to some sound evidence and to Congressman Dennis Kucinich and Bill HR 2977. There it is in black and white chemtrails next to some very exotic weapons and the Star (t) Wars ( my (t) for reality check) programme. Only to discover that in the amended bill all terms relating to exotic weaponry have been removed- including chemtrails. At this point, you understand that government do not want you to know what they are up to and will not let it out to the public.

Problem 7Having realised that you cannot find a political solution to the problem, you wonder what direct action you can take? Suddenly a new doorwayopens up; your research has led you to a pseudo scientist called Don Croft. A man who has adapted a device from an invention called a cloud buster (Wilhelm Reich) and is using it to destroy chemtrails. Although highly sceptical, you start to look at the information and your first instincts are what a load of rubbish, this person has cobbled together some copper tubes, a bucket, some resin, a few crystals and metal shavings from machine shop floors and calls it a chembuster. The whole contraption can be put together for less that �30.00 pounds. Your brain catches hold of the beauty of the idea and you inwardly laugh at a cheap device that could beat a billion dollar operation. Alas, you discover that Mr Croft and his wife are using similar so-called orgone technologies to thwart mind control created by microwave, HAARP, and GWEN (2, 3 ) towers. They are also using physics and are being helped by so-called friendly alien entities; they have graphic adventures, which could only be described as science fiction. You file it into the 'nutty professor bin' and move on. How ludicrous!

Problem 8Once you move into the star (t) wars arena you come face to face with political lies and deceit. You learn about black projects, mind control, secret governments, Illuminati, UFO's and real aliens. Then you discover links from the last 50 years. Nazi scientist given new identities, the Bush family connections with Hitler, you can trace the family genealogy all the way back to Edward the 1st. How Betchtel is a company we should all have deep concerns about. Why did they never actual capture Hitler, Osama, Saddam, and you find out that the Bush CIA connections and all the above assets are intrinsically linked. Even the JFK Assignation is linked to the Bush junta etc. You start to think you have lived in a major conspiracy all your life and that somehow it all forms a unified theory of everything.This hurdle, to the sensible activist, is something you know you cannot overcome. After all, you are just a mere mortal and do not have the budget and resources to compete with monolithic Corp/Gov/Media and now you are in the area of dark evil stuff. Even with your newfound etheric energy, the voice inside your head (and fear) is cautioning you to run away.

Problem 9One day, you spot out of the corner of your eye something sparkling just at the edge of a ubiquitous chemtrail. As you brain adapts to what you are seeing, it disappears. Two days later, you see the same thing. Nevertheless, this time you recognise it as some kind of glowing silver orb about the size of a basketball, you watch it for a few seconds and it suddenly disappears. Then a week later, another silver orb appears in and amongst chemtrails. This time you notice that it is moving up and down and from side to side, you watch it for ten minutes and then it just literally disappears once again. You rush home to tell your wife, but your wife no longer listens to you. You are identified as a freak and you only have your digital family left. Common sense would tell you to stop what you are doing and run like hell.

Problem 10You are now classified as a conspiracy theorist , but have discovered that "conspiracy", in this case, is just another word for the "truth". Now, the doors of perception spring open. You discover that we are not ALONE and you become a target after a few months. First, it is your phone that starts acting funny; then you discover that your e-mails are being intercepted; at certain times of the night you are sweating, twisting and turning; your dreamscape becomes even more absurd; you wake feeling burnt and disorientated. You now understand what microwave ELF energy really is. Your ears start ringing, you pick up strange frequencies.You are now being attacked and you doubt your own sanity. Where do you go from here? After a few days, you realise that your perceptions are correct: this whole thing is wrong and you are damn well going to find the underlying cause of it, even though you know it is going to kill you or you are going to get locked up under some trumped-up charge or some psychological problems.You spend a few weeks just on research you look at what geoengineering really is and what mad solutions to the problem are being tabled. The thingto look at is not so much the crazy proposals which are definitely being used in the chemtrail conundrum, but who is proposing the Geoengineers. They are invariably scientists from biotech industries (with a mountain of funding) from the usual corporate suspects (Exxon et. al.). So, your natural questionwould be: Why aren't the earth scientists involved? Why are we not looking at algae growth as opposed to pouring tons of iron into the oceans? Why isthere no debate on this problem and why do we have to accept what the (nutty) mechanistic scientists are doing to our planet? Break 2Nutty Scientists! At this point and with a mass of crazy information, you need to take stock. You decide to lock yourself away and think. You choose the Descartes route and question your whole chemtrail research. Nutty scientists, secret governments...NWO!An old friendly voice in your head goes off. ?USE THE FORCE LUKE?

June 9, 2003 What is blocking chemtrail activism and mass public/political debate which would lead to action and solutions? Well, for starters, all of so-called officialdom flatly denies that they exist, but the evidence is so overwhelming, that anyone can conclusively prove it to themselves or to others, at least to those who are willing to open their eyes and look. This presentation is a review of the problems that I encountered in discovering the reality of chemtrails and what could be done about them. Trevor James Constable is a leading light in weather manipulation and follows in the footsteps Wilhelm Reich in etheric technologies. All living things have an etheric field, a luminescent energy around their bodies, including you. Here is how to prove it. Put your hand up against a dark background and after a few seconds you will see a faint white shadow round the tips of your fingers. Next look at a group of trees and you will see the same type of shadow against the skies background. Unbelievably, you can use this energy to make clouds disappear. Choose a small cloud first, start scanning it with your eyes from left to right, and up and down, focus on breaking the cloud up with your mind. It will seem to disappear as you focus, re adjust your eyes and keep the process up. WOW, you have just made your first cloud disappear. Show all your friends your new magical powers. This is etheric FREE energy...more later. This will work on all clouds except chemtrails. Thus, Proving chemtrails exist. No conspiracy that they exist.

Don Croft, the nutty guy who had invented a chembuster based on orgone. You decide to read and study Wilhelm Reich and his experiments with orgone in his book Ether, God and the Devil. You had already read his book on the psychology of fascism, and were most impressed, and could see the parallels with today's fascistic and racist world. After all, how more fascist can you get than chemtrails and mind control? You then read Trevor James Constables book The Cosmic Pulse of Life and John Keel's book Operation Trojan Horse. All things start pointing to a unified theory based on orgone (chi, or etheric energy). Thankfully, you were able to test out empirically some of the ether energy stuff that Constable had suggested to the point of being able to break up clouds with your own eyes. You went back, re-examined Don Croft's work, and it all started to make sense. The NWO, secret government, and fascist policies had chosen geoengineering over climate engineering proposed by earth scientists to negate the problems of CO2 emissions for fat profits of the self-chosen elite, thus protecting the status quo of big business and the Illuminati. This has been sold to the spider flyers (chemtrail pilots) as ' you are doing your world a great service' (pandering to gung-ho ego's). A solution has also been sold to congress that allows them to continue as normal and negates the need to solve the real cause of global problems: namely, the need for social engineering and a switch to cleaner energy sources, particularly FREE energy, which they have denied for years. They must protect this lie and the status quo, even though the outcome of geoengineering will no doubt create a situation that we will not be able to control. Secrecy has to be kept to a maximum under national security clauses. Whistle blowers could face the death penalty for not spilling the geoengineered beans; they are doing the planet a great service, under the false believe system perpetrated by the secret government. They are trying to protect the original lie to justify this nutty science.For years we have been told chemtrails do not exist. That free energy is nonsense and that aliens are just another crackpot's warped imagination to stop you from believing that we are the only intelligence in the known universe. We are told that the secret government and Illuminati are just conspiracies and so on.Perhaps the real conspiracy is that the Crofts have discovered the answer to chemtrails, mind control, and are pushing back the dark forces to save humanity from the straight jacket of conspiracy . Perhaps they are being helped by divine and extraterrestial intervention. And as we are now being asked to accept the idea of two billion plus deaths or green skies for the rest of our existence? Perhaps we should look harder for the real conspiracy instead of the everyday, controlled pseudo-reality being dished out to usEtherically yours,Mark DaveyThe Superpower For Peace Movement.www.superpowerforpeace.org ( END article) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ =)>-

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