Slam Dunkz:1. Put snakes on plane: Pepper, whose wings are clipped to preventing him from flying around his humans' house and destroying their things

People can be such assholes.

Someone has never owned an exotic bird before I see. This is necessary to keep the bird from flying away/where it's not supposed to. Either that or keep the bird in a cage 24/7 which is WAY more assholish.

Except it's not the only way if you have a well trained and entertained parrot. It's one thing if you know that the environment is unsafe because you know your stupid housemates leave doors open or because the bird is aggressive, and another because you think it's inconvenient that they're birds and can fly. I mean, you don't hobble your cat so it can't jump on the bookcase.

Large parrots aren't so good at getting around as say, a budgie, and it hurts them a lot more if they crash because they jump off something when clipped just due to their mass, which can make them paranoid about getting around/falling and give them other psychological issues (especially greys, which I've heard are pretty mentally sensitive) even if you do let their wings grow out later. Ideally, you birdproof your house (screens on windows, no active ceiling fans, doors to outside are blocked by other doors/curtains, no important things left out) and keep an eye on your bird when they're out. Their cage has their destructables and foraging toys which you need to make more interesting than your books and furniture, rotating them in and out frequently so toys remain "new." Out time can be fun clicker training and hangin' with the flock, and if you're super paranoid about doors you could get them an aviator flight harness and have 'em wear that, but they need to be able to have fun in their cage as well for their own safety.

I'm for flighted birds though -- if I got a large parrot, I'd prefer it hadn't ever been clipped and had properly fledged with all its feathers. My budgie came clipped (pet store) but small birds bounce. She flies fine now, but she's lazy and doesn't like exploring/visiting other rooms, unlike my past bird. She would prefer I read her mind and serve her every whim like she was a small feathered cat.

Egoy3k:Slam Dunkz: 1. Put snakes on plane: Pepper, whose wings are clipped to preventing him from flying around his humans' house and destroying their things

People can be such assholes.

Someone has never owned an exotic bird before I see. This is necessary to keep the bird from flying away/where it's not supposed to. Either that or keep the bird in a cage 24/7 which is WAY more assholish.

Those are not the only two options though, there is a third option of not keeping the animal captive. I'm not a crazy PETA type who thinks pets are slaves or anything but my first reaction to the clipped wings was one of disgust as well. If the only way to keep a parrot captive is either a small cage or mutilation maybe they are just not ideal pets.

'Mutilation'? You're just trimming the feathers occasionally, not cutting off pieces of the wing. It's no more mutilation than making your deadbeat stepson cut that damn mullet.

1. Put snakes on plane:Pepper, whose wings are clipped to preventing him from flying around his humans' house and destroying their things

People can be such assholes.

Someone has never owned an exotic bird before I see. This is necessary to keep the bird from flying away/where it's not supposed to. Either that or keep the bird in a cage 24/7 which is WAY more assholish.

The first toy was a sound-activated squirt gun. This toy sprayed water on Pepper whenever he screamed. After an initial period of silent astonishment at his human companion's sheer ingenuity, Pepper tested the toy thoroughly and grew to love it. Of course, Pepper's shrieks were rewarded so he screamed more than ever, although now, his frustration was tempered with long moments of soggy, shrieking delight.

"He started using it as a bird bath", admits Mr Gray, who originally designed this particular toy to quiet Pepper. He added: but "then he'd scream just to be squirted."

Yeah, I could have told him THAT was going to happen. Parrots are too smart for that shiat. Punishing for bad behavior doesn't really work for parrots, you have to reward them for NOT doing that behavior. And now your Grey is going to try screaming at everything to see if it makes it do something.