]]>By: John (Arizona Guy)http://www.fatcyclist.com/2013/10/07/how-to-not-eat-2013-salt-to-saint-race-report-part-x/comment-page-1/#comment-595232
John (Arizona Guy)Wed, 09 Oct 2013 15:38:52 +0000http://www.fatcyclist.com/?p=13019#comment-595232Hey AKChick -
glad the advice helps - I love your blog also!
We mixed up the liquid calories primarly using Infinit Nutrition who mix up batches to specification for about the same price as the others (Hammer, Gu, PowerBar...)
We used three mixes of Infinit - One lemon/lime with protein, one Orange with no protein, and another (fruit punch?) with protein and caffeine for night legs. We also had two flavors of Skratch that we used primarily for electrolyte replacement on hot days - Skratch doesn't have many calories (about 1/2 what other drinks do)
We aimed for 400 calories /hour with no more than 50 solid food calories being part of that. A handful of nuts, eaten one at a time over 15 minutes, a few slices of an apple with peanut butter, 1/2 of a bar or 1/2 pack of shot blocks. We made a big fruit smoothie for immediately when he got off the bike at night, then a plate of food (fish, veggies & rice usually) after the shower and before bed - maybe 1000 calories total.Hey AKChick -

glad the advice helps – I love your blog also!

We mixed up the liquid calories primarly using Infinit Nutrition who mix up batches to specification for about the same price as the others (Hammer, Gu, PowerBar…)
We used three mixes of Infinit – One lemon/lime with protein, one Orange with no protein, and another (fruit punch?) with protein and caffeine for night legs. We also had two flavors of Skratch that we used primarily for electrolyte replacement on hot days – Skratch doesn’t have many calories (about 1/2 what other drinks do)

We aimed for 400 calories /hour with no more than 50 solid food calories being part of that. A handful of nuts, eaten one at a time over 15 minutes, a few slices of an apple with peanut butter, 1/2 of a bar or 1/2 pack of shot blocks. We made a big fruit smoothie for immediately when he got off the bike at night, then a plate of food (fish, veggies & rice usually) after the shower and before bed – maybe 1000 calories total.

]]>By: MattChttp://www.fatcyclist.com/2013/10/07/how-to-not-eat-2013-salt-to-saint-race-report-part-x/comment-page-1/#comment-595214
MattCWed, 09 Oct 2013 14:45:40 +0000http://www.fatcyclist.com/?p=13019#comment-595214For riding calories all I have to say is CarboRocket 333 (Half Evil)...333 calories per water-bottle (if you mix full strength). Tastes GREAT (Rasberry flavor...MMMMMMMMMMM!). Sadly it's just a bit pricey tho for me these days...I can go thru a 1 kilo can pretty quick! If you're on a budget you can get straight maltodextrin powder and mix that into your water, getting you roughly the same calories...you just need to put in your own flavoring (I use cytomax, that way I get all the electrolytes/etc along w/ my calories). No need to eat anything at all, other than mentally feeling like you should.For riding calories all I have to say is CarboRocket 333 (Half Evil)…333 calories per water-bottle (if you mix full strength). Tastes GREAT (Rasberry flavor…MMMMMMMMMMM!). Sadly it’s just a bit pricey tho for me these days…I can go thru a 1 kilo can pretty quick! If you’re on a budget you can get straight maltodextrin powder and mix that into your water, getting you roughly the same calories…you just need to put in your own flavoring (I use cytomax, that way I get all the electrolytes/etc along w/ my calories). No need to eat anything at all, other than mentally feeling like you should.
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JoelWed, 09 Oct 2013 14:35:57 +0000http://www.fatcyclist.com/?p=13019#comment-595213Next time you do a race like this, get a case or two of ensure and work that into your food rotation. A great way to get 300 calories quickly (without going all out on the full liquid diet).Next time you do a race like this, get a case or two of ensure and work that into your food rotation. A great way to get 300 calories quickly (without going all out on the full liquid diet).
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GregCWed, 09 Oct 2013 13:57:33 +0000http://www.fatcyclist.com/?p=13019#comment-595211Furnace Creek 508- something I’ve thought of and talked about, but haven’t quite risen (or lowered?) to the point to commit to this much insanity (yet anyway)Furnace Creek 508- something I’ve thought of and talked about, but haven’t quite risen (or lowered?) to the point to commit to this much insanity (yet anyway)
]]>By: Daddy stylehttp://www.fatcyclist.com/2013/10/07/how-to-not-eat-2013-salt-to-saint-race-report-part-x/comment-page-1/#comment-595210
Daddy styleWed, 09 Oct 2013 13:30:21 +0000http://www.fatcyclist.com/?p=13019#comment-595210sufferfests build mental toughness, soon the lite will shine and a new day will dawn. All will be right with the world.... and then you get to stop, even better.sufferfests build mental toughness, soon the lite will shine and a new day will dawn. All will be right with the world…. and then you get to stop, even better.
]]>By: Philhttp://www.fatcyclist.com/2013/10/07/how-to-not-eat-2013-salt-to-saint-race-report-part-x/comment-page-1/#comment-595197
PhilWed, 09 Oct 2013 07:48:27 +0000http://www.fatcyclist.com/?p=13019#comment-595197It is actually dangerous to drink so much red bull. The absolute maximum stated on the redbull website is 5 in one day (400mg) caffeine.
Someone at school needed to go to hospital when he drank too much. Not a good ideaIt is actually dangerous to drink so much red bull. The absolute maximum stated on the redbull website is 5 in one day (400mg) caffeine.

Someone at school needed to go to hospital when he drank too much. Not a good idea

]]>By: Wife#.667http://www.fatcyclist.com/2013/10/07/how-to-not-eat-2013-salt-to-saint-race-report-part-x/comment-page-1/#comment-595187
Wife#.667Wed, 09 Oct 2013 03:44:34 +0000http://www.fatcyclist.com/?p=13019#comment-595187@akchick is super excited because our boys Sam & Dean are back tonight. I got her back though - I believe she meant to say she could not recommend the Hammer Nutrition’s Perpetuem <i>enough</i>, in other words, she thinks it's da' bomb.@akchick is super excited because our boys Sam & Dean are back tonight. I got her back though – I believe she meant to say she could not recommend the Hammer Nutrition’s Perpetuem enough, in other words, she thinks it’s da’ bomb.
]]>By: AKChickhttp://www.fatcyclist.com/2013/10/07/how-to-not-eat-2013-salt-to-saint-race-report-part-x/comment-page-1/#comment-595185
AKChickWed, 09 Oct 2013 03:00:17 +0000http://www.fatcyclist.com/?p=13019#comment-595185John (Arizona Guy) Thanks for the advice! I doubt I'll ever be crazy enough to do a 400 miler, but I am very seriously considering a 200 miler and a 100K winter ride (where the advice is to stay hydrated to help fend off cold weather related issues). I love that there was someone to record the riders food/drink and make sure they kept it up. Tired brain means fuzzy brain which can lead to bad mistakes.
I'll keep repeating it until Fatty (or someone else) tells me to shut up. I can't recommend Hammer Nutrition's Perpetuem as a long distance ride supplement. It contains protein and electrolytes and doesn't upset your tummy, is gluten free and vegan friendly, and comes in three flavors Caffe Latte, Orange-Vanilla and Strawberry-Vanilla. Orange-Vanilla is my favorite. Anyone that is interested can find out more here: http://www.hammernutrition.com/products/perpetuem.pp.html FYI - in my humble opinion, the solids are GROSS.John (Arizona Guy) Thanks for the advice! I doubt I’ll ever be crazy enough to do a 400 miler, but I am very seriously considering a 200 miler and a 100K winter ride (where the advice is to stay hydrated to help fend off cold weather related issues). I love that there was someone to record the riders food/drink and make sure they kept it up. Tired brain means fuzzy brain which can lead to bad mistakes.

I’ll keep repeating it until Fatty (or someone else) tells me to shut up. I can’t recommend Hammer Nutrition’s Perpetuem as a long distance ride supplement. It contains protein and electrolytes and doesn’t upset your tummy, is gluten free and vegan friendly, and comes in three flavors Caffe Latte, Orange-Vanilla and Strawberry-Vanilla. Orange-Vanilla is my favorite. Anyone that is interested can find out more here: http://www.hammernutrition.com/products/perpetuem.pp.html FYI – in my humble opinion, the solids are GROSS.