Most of my victims tell me I'm more of a Phenix than a Wizard. Large diameter, stiff as a brick, and held the world record for length until the technological advances in plastic technology of the mid '80s.

Ryen91 wrote:I am pretty sure I am more intelligent then you think and have allot more knowledge then your post might suggest.

veganray wrote:Most of my victims tell me I'm more of a Phenix than a Wizard. Large diameter, stiff as a brick, and held the world record for length until the technological advances in plastic technology of the mid '80s.

Peot wrote:How would you say these recent runs compare to the recent 12x Aviars? I love the feel of the Wizard but a lot of the ones I tried felt bulky in the shoulder and exceptionally deep in the rim.

stiffer, more glide, little less stable. These are not the oddly bulky/deep ones.

I have two Evolution HPP Elements. Threw one of them straight into a tree and the rim was a bit deformed. Since I havent thrown many Gateway drivers or midranges I was wondering which type of the other plastics that is most similar to Evolution HPP? Is it Champion/Z/Opto kind of plastic or ESP/Star/Gold, or even like Pro/Elite X? What's your experience of it?

There was a recent run of opaque blue HPP that was flexible soft. I wouldn't consider it to be super gummy like the clear, but it can be folded easily. My Wizard drops like a stone when it hits a tree.

so does anyone like gateway warlocks? ive been thinking thaat i want to try one. i never have before because it just seemed like gateways bastard child. ive tried all the other putters though.

how deep are they?how do organics and glows fly?how do the glows feel? stiff meds or soft? slick or grippy?ive read theyre beadless wizards basically,is that true for stability?how do these conpare to discmania p2 psychos?

looking for info and maybe profile pics next to a p2,wizard,magic. ive had interest in trying magics again too but i gotta catch a glimpse of these warlocks.

I can't get you pictures, but I can tell you a Warlock is lower profile than the Wizard/Magic. I think it was made for people who liked Wizard stability but didn't like the deep rim. It's a beadless stable putter that's not as deep as the Wizard. Not sure how it compares to the P2.