[00:00] it's very strange. they all fail.
[00:00] NForystek: this is not a chat channel. please ask a specific technical support question or use the #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat
[00:00] I go read monodevelop.com right now to get it installed and there's no icon in the packages, it's a bunch of lines that ends with go follow next how to install it, with no lead to instructions
[00:01] k
[00:01] jb0nd38372: I'm pretty sure that all of the "safe" methods of increasing IO access are already in use by default.
[00:02] I can ping, but not traceroute
[00:03] jbernal0019: And in case there was any confusion, I never said that you can't use software RAID0 to increase your IO performance (though I will say that any RAID0 increases your chances of irrecoverable data loss in the event of hardware problems, so you'll have to decide if you consider it "safe").
[00:08] ok, here's a better description of my problem accessing archive.ubuntu.com: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9826836/ (just read this paste and you'll understand it all)
[00:08] thank you for the help.
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[00:16] hi i have windows 7 and i dual booted windows 7 and ubuntu linux. I chose ubuntu in the purple grub or grub 2 window i cant remember and it worked perfectly. I then chose windows 7 and it says windows failed to boot. I chose the recovery thing and it took me to gateway recovery management but then says i dont have enough space to restore my pc please help im desperate
[00:16] sorry that its long
[00:18] !bootrepair | NateThug
[00:18] NateThug: Boot-Repair is a simple tool to repair frequent boot issues you may encounter in Ubuntu. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair for more info.
[00:19] i tried using boot repair and i chose like recommened settings and still the same problem
[00:20] any help?
[00:20] from anybody?
[00:21] NateThug there's one solution - remove win7 permanently :)
[00:23] salve!
[00:23] film horror
[00:24] !it | peppe991
[00:24] peppe991: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)
[00:27] it's friday the 23th - fnord!
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[00:42] I have a question about curl and openssl in ubuntu 12.04 - is this the best place to ask? curl -1 -vvvv shows that curl sometimes uses SSLv3 instead of TLS, apparently at random
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[00:43] curl -1 with openssl version 0.9.8za on my mac never uses SSLv3
[00:44] but version 1.0.1f seems to
[00:44] on ubuntu
[00:45] Will Ubuntu 14.10 support end in 9 months from now?
[00:45] Or will end of support for it be years away?
[00:45] !14.10
[00:45] Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.10 - Read the release notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseNotes
[00:45] Ryan__: it ends 9 month after it was released
[00:46] no, 9 months from October
[00:46] Why is it only 9 months?
[00:46] because it's not an LTS release.
[00:46] get 14.04.1 to stay supported until 2019.
[00:46] I see, should I use 14.04 then to avoid having to upgrade?
[00:46] Okay, will do
[00:46] this is all detailed on the website, Ryan__
[00:46] daftykins: I saw that on the site but wasn't sure if I was believing it correctly
[00:47] Ryan__: if you install 14.10 you will need to upgrade all 6 months to until you are at 16.04.
[00:47] every 6 months you mean?
[00:48] every 6 months there is a new ubuntu version. they got 9 months support but after the 9 months are gone you already spoiled 3 months from the next release. so its only 6 months left, etc.... tl;dr: upgrade all 6 months when you dont stick to the LTS
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[00:49] Ah I see, k ty
[00:52] it's true that the correct english is 'upgrade every 6 months' though ;)
[00:52] * k1l will try to keep that in mind :)
[00:55] how do I upgrade openssl 1.0.1f to openssl 1.0.1g+ in ubuntu 12.04?
[00:55] is my only option to build from source?
[00:56] or wait.. ;)
[00:56] blitz: why you want to do that?
[00:56] we're way past g, and this is causing things to fail so that's not an option
[00:57] because there's apparently a bug in 1.0.1f that causes TLS renegotiation to failover to SSLv3
[00:57] did you file a bug?
[00:57] it's filed
[00:57] I'm talking to openssl people now brb
[00:58] !info openssl precise
[00:58] openssl (source: openssl): Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary and related cryptographic tools. In component main, is standard. Version 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.21 (precise), package size 507 kB, installed size 898 kB
[00:58] hmm no letter in that output
[01:00] blitz: i am talking about a ubuntu bug on launchpad.net against the openssl package in ubuntu. so if there is a known patch the maintainer could upgrade the package
[01:03] k1l confirming with openssl people, I'll get back to you
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[01:19] How do I install pip (Python) without using apt-get install?
[01:20] kulelu88: you can use pip command too, but why?
[01:21] Stanley00: I built python 2.7.9 onto my machine and I'd like to build pip too. I am worried that using the apt-get install version won't be compatible with 2.7.9
[01:21] kulelu88: what's your ubuntu version?
[01:21] 14.04 (Docker image)
[01:22] !info python trusty
[01:22] python (source: python-defaults): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is optional. Version 2.7.5-5ubuntu3 (trusty), package size 130 kB, installed size 671 kB
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[01:24] kulelu88: okay, if you had built python, I think you should better build pip too... but are there many difference between 2.7.9 and 2.7.5?
[01:24] Stanley00: The ubuntu image of Docker didn't come with Python, so I don't think I broke any system stuff
[01:25] does anyone know how to enable php5 with apache on ubuntu? This nasty issue has been there for more than 10 years that the default installation does not work and things need to be reconfigured
[01:25] !info php5
[01:25] php5 (source: php5): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage). In component main, is optional. Version 5.5.12+dfsg-2ubuntu4.1 (utopic), package size 1 kB, installed size 29 kB
[01:26] a2enmod php ?
[01:27] it's enabled
[01:27] kulelu88: hmm... my point here is if you don't need anything special in python 2.7.9, install it from repos is always better.
[01:27] why did you ask how to enable it then? :)
[01:27] I only need it for some small things
[01:27] heh because it does not work as usual
[01:27] sudo a2enmod php5
[01:27] I think o_o
[01:27] it shows the php source in the browser :-)
[01:27] this is really lame that issue has been there for more than 10 years now
[01:28] Stanley00: What about all the possible security issues between 2.7.6 and 2.7.9 ?
[01:29] kulelu88: I think bugs will be backport to 2.7.5, that's why we have 2.7.5-ubuntu3 there ;)
[01:29] Stanley00: Is that how it works? bugs are backported?
[01:29] kulelu88: AFAIK, yes.
[01:30] I never knew this :-/
[01:30] It got me wondering how OSes stay safe if there are bugs but they work on the old versions
[01:31] where can i find the +mac version of ubuntu with unity 8
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[01:33] kulelu88: so, now you can happily install python 2.7.5 and stay safe until 2019? (as long as you keep up-to-date) :P
[01:33] hi all, do you use aws? i got stuck in registering!!! need your help?
[01:33] 2019? Heh ? I think by then we will have 2.8.1 :D
[01:33] l3x1: Stuck how?
[01:34] S_P_D: maybe in daily live image of ubuntu?
[01:35] kulelu88: I don't know, but 14.04 will be supported until 2019, so you can have all security update until then :3
[01:35] but they block my acc and require me fax them billing information
[01:35] !offtopic | l3x1
[01:35] l3x1: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[01:35] oh Stanley00 , i thought u were referring to end-of-life of python :D
[01:35] l3x1: well, talk to the aws support then. we cant help you there.
[01:36] hello
[01:36] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-live/current/ doesn't have the +mac version
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[01:37] and i'm positive that's the right directory http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/06/unity-8-daily-build-images-go-live
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[01:38] has 8 even been released 0o
[01:38] S_P_D: There is no need for a +mac image any more.
[01:38] if not, it's off topic here
[01:39] why?
[01:39] because only released software is on topic in here
[01:39] S_P_D: A better work around for Apple's broken firmware was found that can be used for the primary images. (The work around for the +mac images was to remove UEFI support from the image).
[01:39] S_P_D: for unity 8, I think you should ask in #ubuntu+1 maybe :3
[01:40] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacPro The regular 64-bit Ubuntu CDs have trouble booting on older Intel Macs, such as MacPro1,1, due to EFI incompatibilities. You must download a special +mac CD of Ubuntu to work-around this problem
[01:40] Try an older ubuntu version maybe? S_P_D
[01:41] old mac pro, as in PowerPC?
[01:41] i guess i could just use the i386 dvd. Thanks anything! and no, it's intel. efi32
[01:42] dont mac users consider OSX better? *dont flame me for asking*
[01:42] !offtopic
[01:42] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[01:42] kulelu88: not on topic.
[01:43] I guess not ...
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[02:17] hi
[02:18] hi
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[02:36] hello
[02:36] hey haijohn
[02:39] hi
[02:39] Is there a way to make it so that the contents of / will not list when you ls -al / ?
[02:41] The_Tick: You can remove the read permission from a directory (o-r) and it will stop a directory being listable, but can still be changed into. There is a reasonable chance that will break things though, I wouldn't recommend it. Also the contents of / are very predictable so you wouldn't really be doing much, someone can just guess all the common names and list them instead
[02:42] The_Tick: (its important to keep the execute permission on a directory, as that is what lets someone change into it, even if they can't list it)
[02:42] The_Tick: also no idea if the / node is spceial in any way here.. in any case, i would try it on a junk system/VM first :P
[02:42] ya I was trying to figure out what this user did
[02:42] ah
[02:42] well in that case likely they did chmod o-r /
[02:42] Figured asking it that way would make it easier to reverse it
[02:42] ls -lad /
[02:42] will show you the perms
[02:42] so chmod o+r / sounds good
[02:42] drwxr-xr-x 35 root root 4096 Dec 29 07:49 /
[02:42] ah nice
[02:43] Has anyone had any problems loading ubuntu from USB on a laptop with nvidia and getting a split screen?
[02:43] explain split screen
[02:43] the image is split on different parts of the screen, pixelated, etc
[02:44] overlapping text
[02:44] is there an hcl for ubuntu?
[02:44] ah there is
[02:44] hcl? I'm new to this linux thing.....
[02:45] that's not a linux thing :)
[02:45] it's a hardware compatibility list
[02:45] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:45] ya, i've seen that before
[02:45] I'm wondering if it's on that list
[02:45] laptop?
[02:45] HP Pavilion dv6000
[02:46] I got puppy linux to work with no problem, have had horrible luck with ubunutu and debian
[02:46] 6000 or 6600?
[02:46] 6000
[02:47] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HP_dv6000_Series
[02:47] try reading that bad boy
[02:47] looks pretty nice
[02:47] I should probably try ubuntu at some point
[02:47] cool, thanks
[02:49] Hi. I installed Ubuntu Server on a Dell PowerEdge 2950 but it won't boot into the OS, any ideas?
[02:50] Telendrith, how many drives?
[02:50] hey my /tmp directory keeps filling up
[02:51] compdoc: Just two, in a raid 1 setup
[02:51] crazyhorse18: with what?
[02:51] Telendrith: where does it stop booting?
[02:52] i'm not sure i ran a diskanalyser on it.. and it says 4.1kb
[02:52] After the F/W Initilization and remote access setup. Just stalls.
[02:52] tmpfs 1.0G 1.0G 0 100% /tmp << but that is df -h
[02:53] you only have a 1 gb tmp?
[02:53] that seems tiny to me
[02:53] crazyhorse18: what's result of "sudo du -sh /tmp/* | sort -h"
[02:53] The_Tick: looks like he has 2G ram, and tmp mouted as tmpfs :3
[02:53] Stanley00, all 0's
[02:53] Stanley00: ya I'd agree
[02:53] 5 directorys, all 0
[02:53] crazyhorse18: du -sh /tmp
[02:54] guess he needs a sudo ont aht
[02:54] 4.0k /tmp
[02:54] crazyhorse18: hmm... looks like some file is deleted while still being used...
[02:54] Is there any way I can see what process is forking a lot?
[02:54] crazyhorse18: can you reboot this machine?
[02:54] now. i have written a program that sha1's every single file on the computer.. and its probably whats cuasing it
[02:54] yeah i can reboot it, but i'd like to fix the problem
[02:55] sudo du -x --all --max-depth=1 / | sort -n
[02:55] Ericjohn
[02:55] paste the output to a paste service, pastie is fine
[02:55] crazyhorse18: reboot can fix it, and rewrite your prog too :P
[02:55] unless there's a pastebot here
[02:55] Stanley00, all it does is iterate through the files
[02:55] people actually want to reboot linux?
[02:55] crazyhorse18: The_Tick> sudo du -x --all --max-depth=1 / | sort -n
[02:56] crazyhorse18: does it use any *temp* files, as in mktemp?
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[02:56] The_Tick: well, you can file the file with lsof, and kill the process too, but reboot is simplier :P
[02:56] *can find*
[02:56] Telendrith, can you boot a live version of ubuntu?
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[02:57] I'm hoping to find out where its working directory is and then lsof | grep -i filename
[02:57] Telendrith, Im thinking it must be the raid
[02:57] if you want to take it from here Stanley00 feel free I don't use ubuntu :)
[02:57] hmm yeah
[02:57] maybe i can reboot
[02:57] maybe he's doing something specific for the distro
[02:57] crazyhorse18: the probelm will just resurface
[02:57] i've only got 200k files left (it managed to do 21 million before it crashed)
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[02:58] compdoc: Yea, I'm going to try and re-initalize the raid. If that Dosn't work, just use one drive.
[02:59] Hello guys, I have a microcontroller which runs Ubuntu (They have the ubuntu iso or w/e and some other things I have to flash on the microcontroller) .. HOWEVER, it says that I can address the GPIO pins by simply deferencing "virtual file system" can someone explain how that is possible? (i.e: /sys/devices/virtual/misc/gpio/mode/)
[03:00] I was told in anothre channel that it is done by the kernel.. so does that mean the functionality of that "address" is added in by the board developer inside the installation file/iso ?
[03:00] If you read literally first first paragrap hhere: https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/programming-the-pcduino/accessing-gpio-pins
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[03:12] Hello?
[03:12] yes?
[03:12] I have some questions regaqrding desktop environments
[03:13] !ask
[03:13] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[03:13] @could somebody tell me what is this app for?
[03:14] jerome: ubuntu support
[03:14] sorry Im new, So regarding Window managers, do they change the setup of the desktop and how you interact with it?
[03:14] blackrain: they have different WIMP interfaces - how the WIndows, Icons, Mouse and Pointers work
[03:15] http://i.imgur.com/VxjmGpE.png, This is the kind of display im after, I want to know if I can get as close to this as possible
[03:15] somslp thank u
[03:15] *menus not mouse.
[03:15] I talked to the person who had this, and he is using DZEN, and Herbstluftwm
[03:15] will those implement the graphical changes as well as the functional changes?
[03:16] Ideally I would only have that top status bar
[03:16] blackrain: dzen will give you the tiled windows, and other packages may give you what else you want. It might be built into dzen. Maybe talk more to the same person
[03:17] blackrain: no, sorry. I though dzen was a WM but it's not. The screenshot there could be one of a few, like xmonad, dwm or wmii.
[03:18] I am sure the tiling windowm anager is Herbstluftwm
[03:18] Im after the desktop environment more than the functionality at this stage
[03:18] 这里有人懂中文吗？
[03:18] blackrain: it appears to be a WM. So what is your real question here?
[03:18] !zh | jerome
[03:18] jerome: 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw
[03:19] Do you have any recommendations for removing the side taskbar, and getting a terminal run desktop as shown in the screen shot
[03:19] also a side question, do tou recognize that music player in the screenshot as well? Thanks again for the help
[03:19] blackrain: what side taskbar? You mean in unity? You've answered this question yourself when you said it was herbstluftwm
[03:20] hello everybody
[03:20] yes the unity taskbar, I havent ever installed a windowsmanager
[03:20] I wanted to know if window managers remove taskbars and change the desktop enronment that drastically
[03:21] Besides /home, what else would be prudent to factor out to separate partitions (to ease backups, mitigate runaway filling up the root fs, etc)?
[03:21] blackrain: unity is the default wm. If you install another wm, it will be different. Like screenshots of herbstluftwm show
[03:21] blackrain: Unity is a window manager. If you use a different Windo manager, you will lose Unity. And its panel.
[03:21] keviv: Server ?
[03:21] Bashing-om: desktop
[03:22] Ah! i see! thank you so much, I didnt know that Unity was a wm, that solves everything
[03:22] keviv: it's a quesiton with a myriad of answers all of which are right, wrong, and start holy wars.
[03:22] Oh boy
[03:22] !partitioning | keviv
[03:22] keviv: For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap
[03:22] Ooh thanks
[03:22] keviv: Generally with the desk top. I know of no good reasons other than a seperate /home .
[03:23] keviv: but it is really as thick as you want to slice it.
[03:23] "unable to find a medium containing a live file system" - help plos
[03:23] somsip: 404 not found :?
[03:23] i think that i will eat my monitors
[03:23] keviv: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes (must be a dead factoid)
[03:23] Ah that's better
[03:24] Bashing-om: so not even /usr?
[03:25] Wait I thought swaps were supposed to match in size the amount of memory you have. They say 2 GB.
[03:26]