Re: Disproportionate @ac 07:30

Re: Whatever.

>is hubris at best.

Yes, but how silly we are to suggest that humans can do anything that nature can't recover from. You are correct, nature will recover, but we might not. See giant layer of dinosaur bones for evidence of this happening in the past.

Cloud?

Re: Linux is a richer OS

That's not true. They offer certifications for all their servers / software. You can't say it's easy to learn then offer 5+ step certifications. The point of the GUI is it increases productivity over all. Sure, some people are more productive at command line than the average GUI, but overall, GUI increases productivity of your most expensive labor (tech).

Re: Applauded

Re: One essential flaw with this reasoning...

Not only that, a DDoS attack is 1 person using thousands of other people's computers to talk for him. It's not 1000s of people protesting. It's not totally different from the 3/5th law we had in the US during our slavery period.

Re: How things have changed....

That's a very insightful post. Microsoft has been throwing mud against the wall to see what sticks for a while now. A guy I work with spend several years mastering Silverlight, and now moving to HTML 5.

I think their throwing so much mud is making the mud less sticky. If I'm writing a management console for an engine, I prefer WinForms over WCF or web, simply because I'm fastest at it. WIth ClickOnce, that whole install at every workstation business is a thing of the past.

Re: Open Code != Open APIs

>There's no service-provider-independent means of marking up my social network.

That's really the inherent problem with P2P, it requires some sort of centralized directory to locate everyone. You could do local discovery and caching, but IPs are dynamic and a good chunk of your local record cache would be out of date the same day they were created.

The biggest issue for me is the circumvention of government search. Since the cloud provider technically owns the data, it's up to them, not me, to whether they want to comply to a search request. With the bendy ethics of today's execs, I'm surprised they are so willing to jump on that bandwagon.

The point is

Traditionalist

I'm a traditionalist in the fact that I've been using RDBMS (Oracle and recently MSSQL) for years now. Would someone explain why NoSql is better than a simple key/value table with an index on the key in a traditional RDBMS from a purely technical perspective?

Re: Not just hipsters...

>But baby-boomers too. They have money. There are lots of them. They have less patience for things that don't work, and no inclination to roll up their sleeves and learn about what is under the bonnet.

I'm a gen-Xer. I used to always build all my computers from parts. I'd (re)install Windows x every few months to make sure it was perfectly clean. I'm a coder professionally. I've been into computers since the Vic-20.

Now, after I've built at least 50 computers and (re)installed Windows countless times? Piss on that, I have better things to do. How many computers do you have to build and reinstall before you realize it's just the same old shit.

>‘Appleites’ love to bang on about how sad Apple haters are (toady), but the reality is, I don’t hate Apple, I hate sheep. The mindless who grab onto a buzz and bang on and on about it virtues. THAT is sad!

Re: Might be right

Re: I'll miss it

>Err, the people complaining _are_ the ones who have got their stereo compiling c++! Same people that have installed Linux on their toaster.

I'm more apt to believe they're just noobs who invested their time learning some web language like PHP and are afraid it will become less relevant as more people are using mobile apps rather than web sites. Because learning something new is hard.

Or they hate apple because the TechJournos told them to and they're lemmings with no sense of wind direction.

Tombo

.NET isn't going anywhere, we're talking about a sliver of application development: "rich" web experience inside a browser. Win32 will be around forever because frankly, HTML+Backend apps suck to do anything other than buy and browse on.

.NET will be used for Win32

.NET will be used for backend (windows services)

.NET will be used for web back end (web services)

.NET will be used for web glue (ASP.NET, MVCx, etc)

HTML5+CSS3 will be used for what SL is used for. To create (or attempt) a rich in-browser experience.

The "make everything web" was a hasty move hoisted onto CIOs by marketing people. Some stuff is good for web, many things aren't. HTML5+CSS3 might level the playing field with the usability of Win32 vs browser, but probably not.

Spoon

Sure

>Could someone explain why this is cool, when whilst other companies face anti-trust cases for including things like a browser or media player?

Sure. First it's other company (singular) not companies. That other company was Microsoft. In the 2000s they were deemed a monopoly and judged as leveraging their monopoly power to stifle competition (Netscape) by packaging a browser in their OS for free thus effectively cutting off Netscape's income (who charged for their browser).

Apple is not a monopoly. Not even close. They are vertically integrated, meaning they make many of the parts from hardware to software, to chips themselves. Other companies outsource to other companies, they are horizontally integrated. They make and specialize in mostly 1 layer (OS or hardware, or parts, etc).

Back in the day, all personal computer manufacturers (Commodore, Atari, Coleco, Apple, etc) were vertically integrated until IBM was caught with their pants down, and threw together what we now know as a PC using parts from other vendors. IBM just made the BIOS and bought the rest of the parts from other companies. During the dawn of the computer revolution, it worked well, but in my opinion it stifled innovation at least at the software level. Once Microsoft knocked off Novell (it's last OS victim) it really had no motivation to be creative (or no one to steal from). Thus, Windows 98, ME, XP, Vista. (Yes XP was great but no great leap from 2K).

The point of all that is that Apple is finally returning innovation to the personal computer realm, and I whole heartedly welcome it. They are able to do things most horizontal companies can't (even if they wanted to which they didn't until Apple) because they are more vertical. The PC industry has been stagnant for the past decade due to the big fish raking in the cash simply because they dominated the market, mainly by having the most installs. If Apple takes the market, they may do the same, but it will be a long time until they do.

Ya

Salaried employees are typically excluded from labor rights (that's why they are called exempt heh). It's the hourly folks that get most of them. Salaried employees do get benefits. Both my parents were teachers and yes, it's a tough career that I almost went into (thank God I didn't). Many states do have great retirement benefits for teachers though. I'm not saying that makes up for everything else, but it's something hourly factory folks usually don't get.

Sortof

If a price of a T-Shirt costs $0.99 to make and the company charges $19.99, it's tough to put the blame on the consumer. I'd bet that if the cost went up to $1.50, the retail price would be $21.49 (or probably $21.99.) Besides, there aren't many American non-slave labor textiles available these days to choose from. But yea, it's sad.

Thank You

"In Apple's paternalistic world, you're an unsophisticated child, unable to make your own decisions. It's not up to you to decide what you want. Apple will take care of that for you."

Thank you, Reg, for telling me what to think, because, you know, I wouldn't be able to decide without your help. I'm happy to join the rest of your sheeple readers.

Having said that, I'm a little concerned, as a developer, that there are restrictions. The restrictions, as they stand now, are outside the applications I am developing and have developed, but on the same token, I think it stifles creativity. I'd hate to be the guy who comes up with a great innovative idea, spends a year developing it after his work day, just to be denied.

Unfortunately, it's still the best thing going right now for freelance developers.

Ya

It has to be a smokescreen - you don't fire a guy you pay $15m / year for less than $1000 a month in dubious expenses. Not to mention the stock tanking. If I were a shareholder, I'd say it's time for a new board.