Just about everyone acknowledges, inside the Republican Party and out, that the GOP needs to do a much better job of bringing minorities into the party. But how? There’s a big problem with implementing this idea — one that is seldom discussed.

The obstacles that prevent Republicans from bringing more minorities into the party are as cultural as they are political. Many blacks, Hispanics, Jews, Muslims, and even women instinctually vote Democrat, even when their views more closely align with the Republicans.

It would be ambitious to imagine the GOP could get 50% of every one of those groups. But is it really out of the question to get 35% of the black vote as opposed to the 10% the party usually gets, or 45% of the Hispanic vote as opposed to the roughly 30% pulled in normally? Not at all, and such an achievement could create a powerful political shift to the right in this country.

The problem with attempting to do this is that the Republican Party has ceded leadership in minority communities, almost by default, to the Democrats. You can see examples of this on a regular basis. Sarah Palin is hit with sexist attacks and even conservatives say, “NOW is supposed to represent all women; so what are they going to say about it?”

When black Republicans are treated unfairly, the mantra goes, “What does the NAACP have to say about this?” In other words, the Democrats have created groups who claim to speak for all blacks, all Hispanics, and all women — and even conservatives accept this to a certain extent. In addition, why is supporting tough action to fight illegal immigration considered “racist”? Sure, it impacts Hispanic illegals — but they’re not Americans. On the other hand, illegal immigration disproportionately impacts American Hispanics. It puts them out of jobs and lowers their wages. It makes a mockery of the Hispanic Americans who love this country and spent thousands of dollars and years waiting to get their citizenship the legal way. And why? So a bunch of rich white liberals can import a Hispanic slave class to pick their strawberries and be their nannies? That sounds more than a little racist to me.

How about affirmative action? What makes opposing that “racist”? Sure, there are a few black Americans who benefit from it, but it also causes thousands of black college students to flunk out of schools they never should have been admitted to in the first place. It casts a shadow over the accomplishment of every black American because it leaves people wondering whether they got where they are via merit or affirmative action. So whom does it benefit? Primarily white liberals who care more about making themselves feel superior to black Americans by giving them counter-productive “help” than they do about making anyone’s life better.

There is always a case that can be made for conservatism. In fact, it’s often already made in minority communities. Bill Cosby is a good example. Even the Nation of Islam has been known to hit on some conservative themes.

There is a sad but true fact that we have to accept. Many people will support someone of their own race over someone of a different race, even if the person of a differing race better represents their views. For example, in the Democratic presidential primaries last year, black Democrats voted in a landslide for Barack Obama over Hillary Clinton, the wife of the “first black president,” despite the fact that they had extremely similar views.

Hence, allowing Democrats to have complete control over every significant group that claims to represent a minority puts the GOP at an incredible disadvantage. Practically by default, a certain percentage of minority Americans will vote the way groups that are supposed to represent them tell them to vote. These groups are also, again almost by default, left alone to define the important issues to minority groups and decide what’s considered racist and what’s not.

Traditionally, conservatives have been reluctant to fight fire with fire. Why? Because we have internalized Martin Luther King’s belief that people should be judged not “by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” That’s why conservatives tend to find groups like the NAACP and La Raza abhorrent.

I think it’s time to acknowledge that this approach hasn’t helped conservatives win elections.

We should not forget that conservatives have done more than a little bit of dabbling with identity politics over the last few years. Haven’t conservatives spoken with pride about Clarence Thomas being the only black Supreme Court justice or Bush having appointed the first black secretary of state? Let’s be honest — would Sarah Palin have been selected as VP in 2008 if she weren’t female? Would Michael Steele be the RNC chairman today if he were a white man? Of course not. Yet Sarah Palin was the best thing to happen to John McCain’s campaign, and Michael Steele has done a better job than most people acknowledge.

True, these groups haven’t managed to reach the prominence of their liberal counterparts like NOW, La Raza, CAIR, or the NAACP. Why? Because they don’t get the funding or the support from conservatives who hold the purse strings. This cannot continue. These groups, and groups like them, need money, attention, and backing if they are to become our ambassadors in minority communities and in the public arena.

When a Hispanic radio show is debating immigration, someone representing a conservative version of La Raza should be on the air.

When Democrats say Sarah Palin can’t be an effective leader because she has five children, we need the conservative version of NOW hammering them as sexists on TV.

When black ministers speak out against gay marriage, the National Association for the Advancement of Conservative Colored People needs to be alongside them, vocal and active in the heart of the fight.

The lesson that needs to be internalized is that it’s not just the message; it’s who’s delivering it. When conservatives accept that, we may shock people with how fast our minority outreach begins to bear fruit.

John Hawkins is a professional writer who runs Right Wing News and Linkiest. He's also the co-owner of the The Looking Spoon. Additionally, he does weekly appearances on the #1 in its market Jaz McKay show, writes a weekly column for Townhall and PJ Media, does YouTube videos, and his work has also been published at the Washington Examiner, The Hill, and at Human Events.
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All this article says is “Republicans need to learn to use minorities to get elected”. Including lies like “So a bunch of rich white liberals can import a Hispanic slave class to pick their strawberries and be their nannies?”, it attempts to turn the tables on “liberals”. However, I live in Texas, a state unabashedly “conservative”. A state that, while voting Republican, has no problem hiring illegal immigrants to do their manual labor.
The Republicans need to find a way to bring in other people besides alienating their “foes”. In the last election cycle, the Republicans branded us as “Real Americans” (which means there must also be “Fake Americans”), sexists, and reverse racists. Even in this blog, the author tries to tell us how great Republicans are by telling us how bad the Democrats are. Americans are savvy to this. You need to start telling us what you can do for us, not belittling your opponent and using third-grade name-calling tactics.
But, this blogger is right. If the Republicans can more effectively use minority groups, they will trick more people into overlooking their lack of good ideas.

PANDER (oxford dictionary)verb. “Indulging desire or bad habits in a person or persons in an unreasonable desire or bad habit”.
Republicans and Democrats alike have failed to see that pandering to any special interest group is the kiss of death to any Democracy. You can’t be a glassy eyed globalist or a greed addled Corporation whore and expect to represent American values and needs. Every since you all rowed ashore, diversity is what this Country has always represented. WE are Americans under the Constitution. We are not Black, we are not latino or Bulgarians for that matter. WE are the people. We only need to return to the days when our Government represented OUR mandates. Not mexico’s or Canada’s or more spacifically, not Communist China. Now we have another prime example of an administration who it’s soul campaign promises. Other Countries, weather bordering us or across the globe, are not our primary concern. Quite walling us into groups and then lying to us.

First, Blacks are 12.5% of the population. They will always vote Democratic since Dems are the anti-White guy party, and this plays into both the general racism of Blacks (no group is more consistently racist than Blacks, exhibits A, B, and C being Wright, Farrakhan, and Sharpton and their legions of Black followers) AND pure spoils politics. Simply put, with limited tax dollars, even running the printing presses non-stop, spending on Blacks and excluding Whites is the “deal” along with White-discriminating Affirmative Action for Jobs, Health Care, promotions, raises, education, contracting and everything else a cradle-grave government does, can only win if White Men lose. By enabling others, including Blacks to win at their expense.

Example: requiring racial quotas for Firefighters in New Haven, instead of merit based hiring, or University of Michigan Law School (denying qualified White applicants, admitting and aiding unqualified Black ones for “diversity” goals aka Quotas).

That deal cannot be beat. Don’t try. Blacks will ALWAYS vote Dem.

Second, the same applies also to Hispanics, with the cherry on top of ethnic dominance through mass immigration from Mexico. Democrats are solidly in favor of pure Amnesty, open borders, creating a giant Mexican version of Tammany Hall in the US. Ethnic-nepotism politics at it’s highest, again advantaging Mexicans against Whites, through Affirmative Action (once they step over the border), quotas, preferential admissions, and so on. Hispanics will ALWAYS vote Dem excepting older Cubanos who hate Castro.

Finally, Women. White Women benefit from all of this as much if not more than Blacks and Hispanics. Hispanics btw are only about 14% of the voting population. White women are the beneficiaries of the Obama spending spree, with nearly all jobs funded being White Women in social work, stuff like that. No shovels being turned. Robert Reich let the cat out of the bag when he noted, “No White Men Need apply” to stimulus money. White Women HATE most White men, rivals at work, unwanted sexual attention if they are halfway pretty (and the guy is not Tom Brady, ala the SNL skit on “Sexual Harassment”), and HATE government spending that benefits White Men: Defense, Construction, etc. Instead youth counselors, social workers, studies on Sea Otters, junk like that.

Women famously HATE HATE HATE Palin, and men love her, by equal margins, because Palin married a blue collar guy and favors male-oriented spending on resource extraction, construction, stuff like that. Gallup had one poll with Palin netting 11% favorable ratings by Men and about the same Negative by women. Or close to that.

Structurally, the GOP is the White Guy Party and Dems are the “HATE WHITEY”(tm) Party. That’s who they are. The problem in the last few elections is that marriage among White women has fallen apart, and married White Women are FAR more conservative than single women. Married White Women were GWB’s margin of victory in 2004, and not enough of them insured a President Obama.

Women are the key. You cannot offer a better “deal” than the Dems for single women. But married ones — it’s definitely possible and the GOP’s play is to encourage marriage.

Trying to be “cool” with some magical minority or woman won’t work. Instead they generate hatred ala Palin. Viewed as “traitors.”

“The obstacles that prevent Republicans from bringing more minorities into the party are as cultural as they are political. Many blacks, Hispanics, Jews, Muslims, and even women instinctually vote Democrat, even when their views more closely align with the Republicans”

This is something Republicans have to grasp. I live among immigrants, and by my experience, minorities are a sort of reverse libertarians. They tend to be socially conservative, as they’re usually split or slightly favoring traditional marriage, pro life, and religious cause (They won’t be for legalizing drugs or prositution). This is especially true for older, “uneducated”, unassimliated church going crowd who clings to the conservative culture from their homeland. You know, just the kind of group who liberals love to label as “bigots”. For all intents and purposes, they should be voting GOP.

I cringe when I read Asian language newspapers in LA, because most of them just regurgitated info from the liberal American media. On discussing Obama’s healthcare plan, one Korean American newspaper ran a headline that read “Healthcare for all citizen”, placed right next to a picture of a “Sicko” poster.

If the GOP won’t compromise at all on immigration, then they should at least connect with legal citizens. Tons of Koreans and Vietnamese are evangelicals or Catholics. The GOP should think about establishing some thinktanks or blogs in other lanaguages that effectively communicate their message to minorities in a culturally relevant fashion. The Vietnamese align themselves with the GOP largely due to the party’s long history of anti communist stance. But when they win elections for the GOP, there’s no noise.

It wouldn’t hurt to have a charismatic minority Republican in the Reagan mold.

You write fairly enough, “The lesson that needs to be internalized is that it’s not just the message; it’s who’s delivering it. When conservatives accept that, we may shock people with how fast our minority outreach begins to bear fruit.”

Sometimes I’m glad I’m old and will not live to see the total destruction of my country. And that’s what the Dems are doing, they are taking a rich, viable, lively, productive country and sucking the life blood right out of it. By the time Obama and his parade of clowns are finished, America will be nothing but a dried out hag of a rotting corpse.

“All this article says is, “Republicans need to learn to use minorities to get elected”.”

Not true. What it’s saying is that there are many conservative minority groups who do not get the attention they deserve. They should be given a bigger microphone. The media is certainly not going to share theirs. The liberal minority groups have all the airtime they can handle.

“You need to start telling us what you can do for us,…”

Taking your words at face value is what will make us “exactly” like the Democrats. I can’t help but be reminded of that woman on TV right after hurricane Katrina, “What are you gonna do for ME?” At this point I’m more interested in what they’ll “un”-do. They (the government) do too much already.

This is the poorest reasoned John Hawkins article I have ever read. Republicans can’t outDemocrat Democrats. When they get candidates who are female or minority the left try cuts them to ribbons because they are Republican and minority and often minority noncandidates go through some of the same harassment. The only solution is candidates who are actually conservative and uphold unflinchingly Constitutional libeties and opportunity for all equally. If we try anything else we are lost. If that doesn’t work we are lost.

Going after the black vote by compromising our values and message is insanity. Michael Steele is pathetic and will not make any in roads into the 97% of blacks that voted Democrat last election.

The Democrat Party appeals to black voters because its all about ant-white hatred.

Many blacks see the Dems as the get even with “whitey” Party.

What we could do is stop accepting and teaching racial hatred towards white people in our schools and media.

We should begin to emphasize the history of the race of people who have contributed more to mankind in every category, science, medicine, technolgy, freedom etc. than all the other races of people combined.

Start teaching that it is evil to have institutionalized discrimination against white working and middle class people.

Teach that the demonization of whites is also evil and condemn Obama’s Black Liberation ideology, Black Panther groups, the Nation of Islam and all other black hate groups that are now part of this country’s mainstream.

How’s that for a beginning to identity politics, John. If that’s too politically incorect for you then you need to take a long look in the mirror.

I agree this is nonsense, but it’s not silly nonsense — that is, identity politics has been effective for the Democrats. The problem, in a sense, is as stated, that the mainstream conservative (regardless of what may have been true in the past) generally actually believes in the notion of equality of opportunity (not result) and in treating everyone on their own merits.

Interestingly with respect to women, it’s not all women who hate Sarah Palin, it’s primarily upper-middle and upper middle class women. It’s not so much that she’s conservative, it’s that her success “in spite” of having married a blue collar guy, graduating from a 2nd or 3rd tier state college, having lots of kids and being conservative, basically mocks all of the choices many of these women feel they have had to make since they were teenagers: get into and graduate from a top school, postpone serious relationships for a career, suppress many of the natural instincts for ‘manly’ men and motherhood, accept the ideology of the wimmins movement and the left to support the abortions and ‘mommy party’ agenda that gives them a sense of comfort in making those choices. Palin has done none of that and succeeds! It puts the lie to, and makes a mockery of, all of the things they have been telling themselves (and the left has been telling them) for the past 50 years. And that leads to cognitive dissonance – hence the hate

No thanks. One of the main reasons why I became a Republican is because they rejected sexist and racist identity based politics. I don’t care if it works or not. It’s wrong and we should stay the hell away from it. I vote for people based on substance. Not on gender or skin color. If you’re into identity based politics then go vote for the Democraps.

Absolutely the worst advice I have seen in years. Karl Rove’s strategy writ large for all to see in its utter failure. Where to start?

First is simple mathematics, by picking up marginal gains in some non-key constituencies the Republican party is sure to lose forever. However, by picking up even very modest gains in the core constituency of the 75% of the country that votes, the party will secure a win and a majority. It is time to forget pandering which always only favors the Democrats (how can you out-pander Kennedy or Pelosi?

Who do you attract with identity politics? We need people who aren’t blinded by the emotion they attach to their identity. Let the liberals indulge in this nonsense. Note that the members of minorities who are conservatives excel on their own merits and tend to be highly respected for it. Let us celebrate and share that with like minded members of minorities who are tired of the closet elitists who maintain the identity plantation.

steve :Start teaching that it is evil to have institutionalized discrimination against white working and middle class people. wahhhhhhh i’m a victim too.
We should begin to emphasize the history of the race of people who have contributed more to mankind in every category, science, medicine, technolgy, freedom etc. than all the other races of people combined.
listen to yourself…you created it so now the faults are someone elses.
only you didn’t did these people invent the concept of the zero? you sound like obama making up shit as you go along. we the people inherited all this.

Dan: “Including lies like “So a bunch of rich white liberals can import a Hispanic slave class to pick their strawberries and be their nannies?”,…”

Agriculture is the major industry that Mexicans and other Hispanic illegals work-that and construction and the service industries like house and hotel cleaning… Do you deny that it is the white liberal who owns these businesses? Do you deny that illegals target these industries? The white liberal thinks they are doing God’s work by hiring illegals to do their mundane jobs. It’s a win-win for them. They feel good about themselves and they get cheap labor.

“Americans are savvy…” You must be kidding. The people who voted for Obama have got to be the dumbest Americans who ever lived. From the woman in Florida who asked Obama for a house to the other who asked him for a car… Blacks, Hispanics, upper crust white liberals and poor whites all voted for Obama and the Dems because for 50 years the Dems have been the party of not only identity politics but of buying votes.

Other posters here are correct: The Dem party has become the anti-white and anti-American party. And minorities buy into this nonsense. They have been force-fed this crap in public education, colleges, unions and the new 527 groups. My own sister at 66 thinks MoveOn is a news outlet and she believes what they say despite my protestations…

Dan explain this about white liberals especially males:How can any white male senator with a straight face support someone, Sotomayor, who just said she is smarter than he is by virtue of her race and gender? The only way is if the white liberal male really does believe that white males are stupid and the cause of all the problems of minorities.

I know that we all want to take the high road as conservatives and that most conservatives feel that any sort of attention paid to race is inherently racist. We feel that the idea should be the argument and not the messenger. I agree, this is a noble sentiment.

However, the author is correct here. No matter how disgusting it is, there are simply large groups of American’s that identify with their racial culture first over their ideological leanings. What is wrong with trying to relate to people with people that belong to their own ethnic makeup? No one has said to change the message to appeal to minorities. The author is merely forwarding the notion that we change the messenger to suit the audience. I don’t have a problem with this at all.

Would you send John McCain to South Central Los Angeles to go door to door seeking help for the Republican party? Why not? The answer is pretty simple. As an old white man, he’d be chased out of the neighborhood by a mob. Now, if you managed to get a group of conservative leaning black activists together, they could go door to door and talk with people without being attacked. They might have a hard time of it, but they would be accepted much faster then another old white man. Is this sentiment racist? Probably. But it’s also true. We have to accept certain realities in order to make progress.

The Republicans need to get honest regarding illegal immigration. Then they will gain loyal voters and appeal to more voters. Period. The rest is all bread and circuses, and shameful at that.

I suspect that the IWF either has more membership than the N.O.W. at this point or could easily trump their numbers with a membership campaign. But would the media start treating them so? That’s the issue.

In other words, the problem isn’t so much the attitudes of women in general, or even the classes of women hysterically castigated in the letter thread here: it is a small group of extremely elite women who reside in academia, puddles of activism, and the media/politics beltway who have lashed out at Sarah Palin. I know plenty of Democratic women who are appalled by the treatment of Palin. However, they view it as just another media-circus, so if you’re not hearing from them, it is because they are not the type of people who spend all day fighting in the blogosphere or playing partisan politics.

Rather than succumbing to identity politics, the Republicans should clean their own house and conform to their own stated standards. Then, when they succeed, it will be a good thing, not more of the same dishonest, political claptrap.

Pandering never works in the long run; it is a gimmick for those who has no morals. The Republicans need to reject identity politics at all cost. Why are moderates giving advice given the last 2 election cycles have lead to dreadful defeats? Democrat-lite is not the answer; it is never the answer. Standing for core Conservative values & the Constitution are timeless concepts that always outlive gimmicks such as identity politics.

It bears repeating, the parallel your linked article draws between the great society programs instigated in the 1960′s and the disintegration of the black family.

It’s a point often missed by today’s cadre of would be do gooders (e.g., Presidents who would use the power of the office to redistribute “wealth”) that it is precisely federal programs and intervention that have aided & abetted social catastrophe.

As for crafting an appeal to so called identity groups, that’s what watered down conservatism (cf John McCain or Colin Powell) has done. An appeal to principles such as liberty, personal responsibility and free markets should cut across all categories of people.

In a culture of “anything goes”, what is solid, stable, and real must be either entirely defeated or be the only constitution that lasts. In game theory, the min-max players must always go to zero sum. The optimum players continue with benefits for everyone.

So the solution is for the Republicans to embrace identity politics. Oh, goody.

Doesn’t that just raise the level of concern FOR THE NATION. The nation was never intended to be governed with decisions made as a bunch of interest groups. The idea was that “THE NATION” was the reference point: the health of the nation, the prosperity of the nation, the defense of the nation.

1. Where is the affirmative action education for Danes? No one has ever offered to help me.
2. My heritage is disrespected and ignored. Can I get PBS to run PSA’s regarding treating Danes better?
3. I expect that my 2nd and 3rd cousins, still in Denmark, should be able to immigrate here on my citizenship, without having to go through all the crap, so let me know where to sign up for that.
4. I demand Danish Study Month be observed in high schools and universities, beginning next year. I expect to see Scandinavian Studies and endowed Scandinavian Chairs in all major universities by the school year 2010-11.
5. I demand that all blacks and hispanics be required to attend sensitivity training so that they are more aware of my perspective and my pet Danish language phrases.
6. I am under-represented in Congress. I demand at least 2 Danes to be seated in the Congress by 2012.
7. And, finally: reparations. My family was not able to begin its immigration from Denmark until the late 1890′s. I DEMAND financial and property reparations compensating for 75 years prior to that date, for the hard work my grandfathers had to do at backbreaking labor as they saved money laboring in New York, Wisconsin and Nebraska for YEARS before they could afford to buy a small plot of land.

Like I said, let me know where to sign up. You want identity politics, let’s go for it. What do the rest of you guys want? Start your lists now.

I’ve had it up to here with “advice” from ostensibly friendly sources that purports to convince me that the way for Republicans to win elections is for them to become Democrats.

That’s pretty much the recipe offered us by McCain. How did that work out?

That’s pretty much the recipe offered by Dole in ’96. How did that work out?

And sometimes it works out even worse when they win. When Reagan left office in ’88, he left the GOP in better shape than they had been in since the 1920s. His VP GHW Bush ran as a conservative and won handily, but then governed in the “kinder, gentler” — i.e., liberal — mode. How did that work out?

We’ve had eight years of liberalism in conservative clothes under Junior. How has that worked out?

Why not do a better job of explaining the principles that made us become Republican voters to begin with? Is that asking too much of our addled politicos?

And when elected on conservative principles, here’s a thought: govern like you believe in them.

I’d say you have plenty to work with there. Now, feel free to create your own list about liberals . . . it won’t be original, and it won’t be funny, but it will be derivative, so you got that goin’ for ya. You betcha.

You remind me of the hedge fund wives who said they were equally impacted by the economic meltdown because they couldn’t, in good conscience, carry their hostess gifts to parties Bergdorf bags.

Tell you what, the next time a cop pulls you over for no reason other than being Danish, you can chime back in. Until then, you’re whining is nothing more than greed and fear wrapped in ignorance – a nice predictable combination. Hey, how’s that nationalized healthcare in Denmark?

I’m a little surprised no one here seems to see how this isn’t a race/gender issue so much as a class issue. The great bulk of minorities are on the lower end of the income scale, so they vote for the party that offers them the most financially.

All of the Palins, Steeles, and JC Wattses in the world won’t help, either, because they are not viewed as having shared a ‘typical’ minority experience.

The Republican message of ‘pull yourself up by the bootstraps’ doesn’t resonate with the poor because it hasn’t worked for them. So long as conservative economic policy begins and ends with tax cuts (which we all know don’t really help the poor), they have little chance of making inroads with working class minority voters.

I’d like to see this author explain to us just why it is that ‘identity politics’ should be employed in lieu of looking at the issues that are important to minority groups and addressing them in such a way that makes clear how the conservative approach is the best one. Trying to play off the negative side the same way the libs do seems like a foolish approach to me that would likely backfire. The trouble with the Pub leadership, IMO, is how it continually dismisses the minority groups as out of reach; now, that is really foolish.

What you are essentially advocating is that the GOP give up on the idea of America to join the Democrats in enthroning a racialist and religious neo-Yugoslavia.

And it is doomed to failure, because it will naturally follow that White people and Chrisitians will want THEIR own overtly exclusive pressure groups to lobby for their own interests in the eternally aggrieved “minority” free-for-all that our politics will become, and as soon as they form such groups, the media will label them racists.
Can you imagine the howl?

I think the main problem here is the title. How about, instead of crass and cynical (and see-through) identity politics, simply doing better outreach to women and minorities? Show how small government policies actually benefit these groups. And promote effective speakers from each of these groups, not to pander, but to put some substance behind the words. This is something the Republican party isn’t doing. If you read Thomas Sowell, you’ll note that he makes this critique of the Reagan admin and subsequent Republican administrations.

One of the reasons McCain didn’t win is that he wasn’t able to make the populist economic argument in a way that reached these groups. It’s not that there wasn’t such an argument to be made. If he had implemented ads with effective female and minority speakers, demonstrating that capitalism works, he’d have had a shot.

The Democrat Party appeals to black voters because its all about ant-white hatred.

Many blacks see the Dems as the get even with “whitey” Party.

What we could do is stop accepting and teaching racial hatred towards white people in our schools and media.

And how, pray tell, do you do that when they keep winning control of the schools?

The more control they have, the more hatred of whites and males is going to be taught. If this can’t be rectified by subterfuge, we’re headed for a shooting war. Given that choice, I vote for subterfuge.

“Traditionally, conservatives have been reluctant to fight fire with fire. Why? Because we have internalized Martin Luther King’s belief that people should be judged not “by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” That’s why conservatives tend to find groups like the NAACP and La Raza abhorrent.”

What a pathetic joke. GOP leaders continue to get busted sending each other racist e-mails and pictures of the face of our President on “welfare bucks”, pictures of a White House covered in watermelon, and pictures of a gallery of presidents featuring our current one as a pair of big white eyes on an all black background.

Your trainwreck of a politicial party continues to be steeped in racism and hate, and justifiably, minorities tend to stay away from political parties that emphasize racism and hate.

Also, Democrats didn’t argue that Sarah Palin can’t be an effective leader because she has five children, they argued that she can’t be an effective leader because she’s a moron who doesn’t read and doesn’t understand that Africa is a continent and not a country.

The my namesake who authored this piece, you’re wrong. As Whiskey said, it’s hopeless to try and outpander the Democrats, it’s just not possible. Rather than pander to minorities, what the GOP ought to do is use the opportunity of the economic train wreck we’re going through to tar and feather the spoils system the Dems use to fuel their pandering.

Make the case that the affirmitive action/public sector unionism/socialized everything economic policy of the Democrats is unsustainable and will impoverish everybody. Many racists minorities won’t care, they’ll be happy to indulge in the “get whitey” self-descructive behavior they’ve been indulging in for a couple of generations. But some percentage will put their prosperity over their hate. They key is to convince those people that it just ain’t gonna work to keep shafting Old White Guys.

Articulating an economic message about the utter failure of redistributionist government is the way to pry loose the 10% of minority votes the GOP needs.

Perhaps also showing the horrible destruction of the Black family under Democrat rule might help jolt a few Hispanics out of the Dem embrace. Show them modern Black Culture, contrast it to the relative stabilty fifty years ago, and hammer home the message that these are your grandkids if you follow the same racialist path the Wright/Jackson/Farrakhan types led Blacks down. That ought to help too.

The electoral success of the left comes out of making arguments that sound good, or flatter one’s desire to look good, regardless of their substancial merit, and often in spite of their substancial demerit. If image comes first, forget about substance, it will go under the bus whenever it is politically unconvenient.

The theoretical concept of winning bay adopting the strategy and tactics of the adversary does not apply simply because someone has got to make good, solid arguments, which includes explaining why substance trumps appearance rather than the other way around.

What’s wrong with making an appeal to critical thought and addressing the minorities and asking “Are the democrats really representing you, or just trying to charm you while disredarding your personal interests at the same time?”

You don’t debunk fake arguments by indulging in fakery.
To counter fakery, you need to discredit it, that’s all!
The difficulty of doing things right is not an excuse for doing the easy things instead.

What is the old saying about one who is not liberal in youth has no heart, but one who is not conservative in maturity has no brains? A quote from somebody, can’t recall whom.

The kernel of truth there is that conservatism will appeal to thinking people, rational people, educated people. It is quite true that between abominable education and cultural degradation, our young people are not encouraged or taught to think.

But people of all ages and races will tend to think about a rational message, eventually. If conservatism is true, a glitzy package will only distract from the message. We should be willing to state our case anywhere, but framing it differently for different audiences will make it less believable, not more. People who may find conservatism appealing will be smart enough to be offended. Look at our own reaction to biased media – it angers us, because it insults our intelligence.

My concern is that our population may now be dominated by those susceptible to unthinking popular and emotional appeals. If that is true, we are out of luck anyway. So I guess the question is, do Republicans still believe in the intelligence of the American public? If we do, we should clarify and refine our message so that reasonable people can digest it. If we have lost faith in the American public, it makes more sense to go to iconic figures appealing to pop culture. Frankly, the last election has really shaken my faith in the American public.

If Americans have truly become so unthinkingly reflexive, we are going the way of Roman bread and circuses anyway.

MikeW: You are the perfect white male liberal who hates his ethnicity, race and gender. You support a party that is becoming more and more a party of the “protected” minorities that has at its core the disenfrancishment of white America and Americans. How do you reconcile that Mike? Are you, like Sotomayor suggests, a white male that is not as smart as a Latina female?

Look at your post: Full of venom and not one citation. Full of lies and not a shred of intellectual integrity. All you offered are worn over ad hominem attacks.

Do you not understand that affirmative action which is the great attraction for blacks to the Dem party is racist in its core against you? I guess you think the recent SCOTUS on Ricci was wrong? Go ahead and defend the idea that merit should be suborned to empathy or someone’s racialist ideals.

I guess you were equally appalled when Obama thought there were 57 states? See I don’t get white males who side with a party that relegates you to the back of the bus both figuratively and in literally.

Sheesh, there’s really no need to create a list of liberal attributes. Your inane post (#28) just about sums up the “typical” liberal mindset. Not a pretty picture that you got the opportunity to paint yourself! Good job sheesh (although we know “job” isn’t usually a liberal attribute).

I’d say you have plenty to work with there. Now, feel free to create your own list about liberals . .

sheesh-y (#28) rhymes with cheese-y (sort of)…

…the persistent ranter with the unstable brain who has, in the past, claimed to receive payment for his “offerings” (rhymes with droppings, sort of) on PJM…

egads, the scariest kind of liberal, there seems to be a lot of them and I sure hope they don’t develop sufficient numbers that they and their ‘dentity politicks completely destroy what’s left of this nation, arms open to all yearning to be free and willing to play by a few rules…

Sheesh….the reparations and minority status privileges that are being demanded by “people of color” today are based on minimal FACTS/expisodes of actual mistreatment of them.

It’s all about history….what happened to someone else…what used to happen frequently….98% of which is no longer happening.

If you remove from the libs’ favorite “identity groups” all the individuals who have NOT actually suffered specifically from the things for which they seek reparations, recognition, affirmative action, etc. etc. there wouldn’t be enough people left to sweep the streets of a very small town.

Your beginning point is foundational to “identity politics”: that everything bad that has ever happened is still happening at the same rate and with the same intensity to the same people as it was at its worst. Sorry. That’s crap.

So, you see, my illustration stands. It might take me awhile to find them, but I can just about guarantee you that SOMEWHERE there is a Dane who has been mistreated at some time in the past. (You probably don’t know about the problems with the Norwegians and Danes during the 19th century and how that spilled over into immigration years)…. So if I can find THAT Dane, voila! I’ve got my foundation for being part of a persecuted group.

Don’t forget the ‘ugly’ people. They need reparations too. Think about how far back ‘ugly’ people have been treated unfairly and cruelly because of their outer appearance. Think about how many hideous butt fugly people have lost jobs because they are trolls. Not fair? Indeed. -And, ugly still gets discriminated against to this day.

We could take the immigration issue from the Democrats overnight by supporting the expansion of legal immigration quotas and expedition of the visa process while simultaneously cracking down on illegal immigration. It would do several things:

1. Show law-abiding Hispanics, which are the only ones that can legally vote, that no, we don’t fear them.
2. Show law-abiding Hispanics that yes, we do care about the crime and drug violence in their communities.

We won’t do that because for some bizarre reason, economic protectionism is “conservative” when the resource we’re talking about is labor. I find it absolutely bizarre that conservatives want free trade agreements that allow US companies to export factories, but are 100% against anything that allows them to import workers.

Because, you know, importing the best, brightest, or hardest-working people from other countries would be so damaging to our economy.

I have an even better idea. How about dismantling the GOP? Have a general assembly to dissolve its charter, and let everyone there go where they fit best.

As for the Democrats and the rest of America, they will be joyful to finally have their one-party state – because that’s what they want. Power, above all else. America is their backyard, their laboratory. They can and will do whatever the Hell they please. And let America have a good taste of the one-party state.

Sure, it all will be pink unicorns and rainbows with pots of gold at the other end. But the day will come when Americans will realize there is no such thing as a pot of gold at the other end of the Democrat “rainbow”. And when the Democrats realize that the American people are waking up to their schemes, the result will be too close to the 2009 Iranian and the Cold-War Hungarian uprisings for comfort. When that time comes, Americans will be truly SCREAMING! for an opposition party.

It’s not “pandering” nor “identity politics” to reach out to minorities whose social values are more consistent with GOP values. Most minorities never even heard of “Acorn”. Who helped pass prop 8 in California? Not whites, that’s for sure.

But they vote democrat, because that party lends a sympathetic ear to immigration concerns (while silently voting against things like outright amnesty or driver’s license to illegals) and the poorest of the bunch rely big govt programs, notably welfare. But since many minorities are also small business owners who sell imports from their homeland, there’s a limit to their tolerance to high taxes.

When brain dead losers like “Mike W” post nonsense, of course the PJM community will respond. But in reality, the GOP doesn’t. In my almost 20 years living in this country, I’ve never once had local Republican group reach out to my family and countless other immigrants who populate California. There aren’t many PJM equavelant or conservative / libertarian thinktanks available in other languages to cultivate conservatism among 40,50 year old immigrants who can’t speak English. I doubt many of them even realize what the Stimulus really is. The local Korean newsource that I read are certifiable liberal garbage.

If you don’t fight, then most minorities will continue to vote democrat, who parade around as their guardian party, while failing to improve our lives in any significant manner in reality. Blacks are a lost cause, but think about your chances on a swing state if the GOP gained some modest uptick in Latino and Asian voters.

The real problem is that the GOP used to be able to win elections with the simple strategy of scaring white Christians into believeing that blacks, Jews and hispanics were going to take their jobs, ruin their neighborhoods and knock up their daughters.

Now the country has reached the point where the number of whites and non-whites is becoming roughly equal, and the above mentioned strategy is backfiring bigtime.

While only a percentage of Fox News-watching whites continue to be terrified of minorities, a huge portion of young whites actually spend time with minorities and understand that the GOP perspective is ignorant and racist, and a huge portion of minorities refuse to vote GOP because they can’t help but remember that the GOP has been winning elections the past 30 years by painting them as an unwelcome enemy.

So the GOP loses smart white people at the same time it loses all minorities. Clearly a strategy for success.

The real problem with the Democrats is that they brainwash people into thinking that the only way Republicans win elections is with the simple strategy of scaring white Christians into believeing [sic] that blacks, Jews and hispanics [sic] were going to take their jobs, ruin their neighborhoods and knock up their daughters.

A base that paranoid is hard to reach out to, but we can do it. It makes them vulnerable to lightning strikes like 1980 and 1994.

“The real problem is that the GOP used to be able to win elections with the simple strategy of scaring white Christians into believeing that blacks, Jews and hispanics were going to take their jobs, ruin their neighborhoods and knock up their daughters.”

Considering the Liberal Left were KKKers. I laugh in your general direction.

“The real problem is that the GOP used to be able to win elections with the simple strategy of scaring white Christians into believeing that blacks, Jews and hispanics were going to take their jobs, ruin their neighborhoods and knock up their daughters.”

You’re clearly a product of public schools. That was the Democrats — the Klan was the militant arm of the Democrat party, remember.

The rest of your dribble is as bass-ackwards as that bit. What a sad, ignorant life you must live.

Look at the last presidential election. THE GOP resorted to fear-mongering because that’s all they had. After all, they couldn’t reflect back on the glorious years of the Bush II administration now could they.

Dan said: “If the Republicans can more effectively use minority groups, they will trick more people into overlooking their lack of good ideas.”

Like lower taxes and smaller government? Terrible ideas, those things. After all, things like Social Security and Medicaid have been run so well, we should believe the government when it says that it can run a nationwide health insurance plan, right?

You can’t trade principles and integrity for votes. Identity politics and the phony doctrine of multi-cultutalism, with all of the associated rationales of situational ethics and moral relativism, are anathema to the Constitution, traditional American values, and everything that conservatives have always stood for; not to mention flying in the face of the America that Dr. King envisioned in 1964…

Actually standing for something will be valued again soon, especially in the wake of Obama and his continuum of ever evolving position…

We can’t sell out to identity politics, or we will become the hypoctites that the Libs are always trying to paint us as!

Careful Mike W. your apt to drown in all that venom. Quick questions though oh enlightened one, please, answer me this: how is it a “huge portion of young whites” can remember the “past 30 years”.

You been messing with time/space continuum knob again?

A factually untenable statement if there ever was one, but typical of the left’s concept of coherence. The liberal insult-in-lieu-of-argumnent debate style is as predictable as the sun rising in the east. You probably will not be able to grasp the reality of this, s o I’ l l t y p e r e a l l y s l o w, here’s a secret: it’s guys like you that make Ann Coulter look like a genius.

Your out of league here son. Now run along back to the sandbox and your intellectual equals. I’m sure they’ll think you’re as clever as you do.

People who voted for a giggling, Saudi King bowing, punch drunk, special olympics bowling, Iranian Freedom ignoring, gallows humoring, fly-by-gas-wasting statue of liberty picture taking, ‘uh-uhm-uh’ without telepromptering, party hardying on Wagyū beef eating, 57 states with ‘one to go’, orchid worthy heated glass house while people were freezing in ‘flyover’ country, shouldn’t throw stones at Palin.

I think this advice to go with the flow is the worst thing that the GOP could do. I KNOW that the messenger is more important than the message. Obama would not have had a prayer if he had been white(Remember Geraldine Ferraro?). His campaign message was a total lie and it is showing us how much a lie everytime he opens his mouth. Our only salvation is for a strong charismatic fiscally conservative leader to come forward and offer us a way out of our collective financial mess that Obama and his syncophants have gotten us into. I watched Rommney Sunday on “Meat the Press” and he did not look ready to stand on Sen. Graham’s neck when it was necessary and I don’t think he has the rock solid core that will be necessary to carry him through the battle ahead. He actually bragged about the over priced healtcare in Mass. like it was a big success.

My two cents: The GOP must win the culture war. We have to regain ownership of the main planks of the conservative platform (i.e., support traditional marriage, emphasize academic excellence over diversity, protect the Constitution, promote entrepeneurship, lower taxes, strengthen the military, reduce Federal administrative overhead) and sell that set of values to *anyone* who will listen. Build the coalition, lead them to victory.

If you don’t think what made conservatism great and is the model for continued greatness in our country, count me out of the Pub party if they start this I.D. polities.

Once you start down this “intellectual” path, there is no turning back. People will forget the essentials of the “American” story and will look for bigger and greater entitlements from their fellow citizens.

I just don’t understand people who want to give up what works for the sake of “wooing” new constituents. Is that what the Founding Fathers did in order to ratity the Constitution?

If Republicans want to appeal to minorities, they can’t do it by pandering the same way Democrats do. Republicans keep trying that and it keeps not working. I don’t even know why they think it would work. Why vote for a fake Democrat when you can get the real thing? Republicans need to approach it by explaining to minorities (and everyone for that matter) why conservative principles will benefit them and how liberal policies have only hurt them. Then, Republicans should actually act like conservatives and implement conservative principles.

Republicans should hammer the left for the DC school voucher case. They need to make the case that the left has declared themselves the protectors of minorities, grabbed their votes, and then kicked minorities to the curb when convenient.

Fundamentally good advice, although I would disagree with parts of your applications of it (e.g., shouldn’t we be a little troubled by the choice of Palin, a mother of two very young children, to run for vice-president? If the kids were all teenagers, it would be less of a problem.).

I think we should hit back hard against the constant “Republicans are bigots” theme of the press and the Democrats, but we should hit back by pointing out that the very standards used by the press and the Democrats are bigoted, rather than accepting certain of those standards and turning them against the Democrats. We need to point out how our standards are fair and theirs are prejudiced.

I think this article comes close but still misses a very good point. Conservativism works for all in this country as does the Constitution of the United States. The principles of our Constitution and conservatism are based on God’s Law/Nature’s Law which is the true basis of governance. Conservatives don’t need to alter the principles we stand on, we just need to obtain and support messangers who can help get the message to all those groups who have been swept into identity politics. We can’t expect a rich old white guy using typical republican talking points to have any impact on a single mother, working class union man or any other group. We need to come up with real solutions and organize and promote them within these groups.

no on the race based pandering. token minorities… I continue to pay, and earn my own way. because without a doubt, i will have some dumb shit want to make command decisions for me. wait we already have that.
don’t feed me with one fish, teach me how to fish so i will never be hungry. truth to power, if it isn’t the truth then you just got to take that BS on down the road.

There is an answer to the NAACP and La Raza and AIM. It is called the KKK….. all same same.

The Author, John makes one crucial misjudgement. That minorities will abandon racial politics and embrace a colorblind society. That “consevative’ values will overcome racial voting for the gain of said minority. Empirical evidence says otherwise. I doubt any “outreach” will do much good.

Which leads to one logical conclusion. If minorities reject a colorblind society.. so too must the majority.

No, wrong as can be . . . I don’t consider anyone to be a victim unless they’ve been victimized. You tried in vain to present the Danes as victims. Sorry, but I don’t think the Danish people qualify. Simple.

This issue is among a long list of problems for the GOP. They have so many identity issues and now with the recent scandals, they will be wandering in the woods for quite a while. You can’t campaign on “Christian Family Values” and lose two 2012 hopefuls in two weeks for infidelity. This social platform anchored the base and now the GOP is a joke.

Martin is right. You can’t run on values and not have any. You can run on ZERO values and that you hate America and be elected though as a democrat all the day long with the full support of every communisst leader on earth.

Let those who need to be weeded out join spector and the scum that voted for tax and trade continue to remove themselves. The only ones left will be the only ones needed. I for one look forward to the party that is for America. Not that panders to the lowest common scum invented by socialism. You know…. liberals

Martin, I’ll bet even you had never heard of Barack Obama 8 years ago. Forget “several decades”, it took the American public only 4 years to overcome their media driven hatred of the GOP after the Nixon fiasco – 4 years of Jimmy Carter, that is. Barack Obama makes Jimmy Carter look like the second coming of Dwight Eisenhower. It’s starting to look like the only difference between the people who voted for Obama and the people who didn’t is when they figured out he is a charlatan and a liar (and, of course, whether or not they care that he is).

I will add my two cents as a black, former Dem. voter, who has voted Rep. for the last 3 election cycles. Don’t pander. Speak up. Where is the Republican Party? Don’t abandon Reagan’s principles. Get into the schools and make sure that our kids know the history of our Founding Fathers, know our pledge, our anthem. There’s a generation and half out there that doesn’t even know about the Boston Tea Party – so there’s no chance that they will understand the current Tea Party movement.
The party also needs to reject elitism, when I see conservative journalists trash Sarah Palin it turns my stomach. She is a hero to me and will hopefully be one to my daughter.

It really doesn’t matter what stance we take, if we can’t get our message out. The Left controls the information stream: the schools; the media; and increasingly, the courts.

If we play into identity politics, we concede victory to the other side. We cannot win, when we allow the other side to define the debate. This is why we can’t win, because the other side owns the information stream. They define the rules. This is why Pubs play the buy-the-vote game. They’ve conceded victory by conceding the rules of the game.

As for Palin being stupid? Well, for being stupid, she is amazingly accomplished. Somehow, she simply gets the job done, and done right. In AK, she is hated by both the Dems and the Pubs, but the people love her.

As for her not reading? Couric’s question was insulting beyond measure. Palin’s a sitting Governor. Her primary job is to read, read, read. Executives rely on information. When she said she reads them all (the papers), she meant ALL. No one can know everything, and her focus prior to the election was on the things necessary to life in AK. A bit of specialization is in order there.

Palin has it all: family; career; great husband; success. She is a truly happy woman. Conservatives love her for it. Liberals hate her for it. That contrast right there says all you need to know about the difference between Libs and Cons.

blotto
You are a the classic morono-con. White liberals own all those farms and construction companies that employ illegals? Why do you think that Bush et al. turned a blind eye, no encouraged, illegals; they wanted cheap labor in their fields and around the estate just as much as some CA yuppy wanted a cheap gardener or nanny.

91 Delia . . . Do you actually believe that Obama didn’t know how many states there were, or do you continually bring that up for entertainment’s sake? (By the way, read that Vanity Fair article on Palin. It’s quite the tale.)

85.Sheesh
“I don’t consider anyone to be a victim unless they’ve been victimized.”

EXACTLY. I AGREE. My using the Danish thing was just to show how silly it is to pretend to be victimized when it’s just normal life you’re complaining about.

AND 99% OF PEOPLE DEMANDING TO BE RECOGNIZED AS VICTIMS TODAY ARE NOT VICTIMS…THEY ARE JUST STUDENTS OF THE POLITICAL LEFT. THAT IS THEIR STARTING POINT AND THEIR ENDING POINT.

I choose NOT to tell the personal stories from people I know personally who personally played the victim against family members, knowing full well they were doing it, up to and including court actions. They just figured out which victim group appealed to them and off they went.

You’ll just have to excuse me if I’m not ready to roll for any more “victims”.

There are two ways the Republican leadership (an oxymoron in today’s times) can go. They can stand up for white men – because we’re all they have – or hopefully a new party will arise from their ashes based on constitutionalism and devoid of any religious BS or so-called “moral values.”

Re# 10/Cato: [...] Interestingly with respect to women, it’s not all women who hate Sarah Palin, it’s primarily upper-middle and upper middle class women. It’s not so much that she’s conservative, it’s that her success “in spite” of having [...]

Agree – yet I’ll add something that’s often overlooked in the discussion over Palin’s being treated as she is (awfully) by (liberal) women. Stats notwithstanding, my impression is that Palin is not dreaded by A LARGE number of liberal women because she is an “anti-burn-the-bras” type treatening the lesbian/cubicles establishment (since here, Camille Paglia is not dreaded, either), but she is dreaded because she is a potential rallying figure who could topple the hopey-dopey president. And from here comes all the poison agains her -

RE #29/sheesh: “24. Meryl: [...] Tell you what, the next time a cop pulls you over for no reason other than being Danish, you can chime back in. [...]

Sheeshkebob, you tenured fool @PJM: idiot, Meryl will be pulled over by a cop for being Danish when it will became simply impossible to ignore for anyone (except clowns like your liberal ilk), that people of Danish ancestry are the source of most crimes in this country/society.

And a fleeting thought now… Sheeshkebob, since Spike Lee also uses your type of argument in this matter … are you actually Spike Lee? Your talents and the fact that your mental processes appear to be occur in your cerebellum makes one believe that… interesting, can you come with a few more thoughts?

100 Delia . . . I know he said it. But do you really believe that he thinks there are 57 states, or did he just misspeak out of campaign weariness? I think the answer is obvious. Does W. really think it’s important to “put food on your family?” No, he just misspoke.

103. misanthropicus: . . . “Sheeshkebob, you tenured fool @PJM: idiot, Meryl will be pulled over by a cop for being Danish when it will became simply impossible to ignore for anyone (except clowns like your liberal ilk), that people of Danish ancestry are the source of most crimes in this country/society.”

So, I guess that makes it OK for cops to pull you over because you’re a male, after all, they commit most of the crime in this country.

RE #104/sheesh: [...] Delia, [...] but do you really believe that he thinks there are 57 states, or did he just misspeak out of campaign weariness? [...]

Luminous Sheeshkebob, do you realy think (you got to prove this, buddy), that Soetoro when admitting that he doesn’t speak Austrian just mispoke out of whatever, or you will admit that Soetoro is a pompous ignoramus who’s simply clueless as to what languages are spoken in Europe (and elsewhere, since here).
Hey, for someone like Soetoro who’s been for years deeply immersed in study at Columbia U, digesting academic achievements like the “Black Venus” and the ebonics theory, this sure won’t be surprising – come, Sheeshkebob shine a light on Soetoro’s “Austrian” language theory, you sure can prove to Delia Soetoro’s edifying knowledge -

106 miss anthropicus . . . Yeah, that “pulled over for being male” stung a bit, I know. But before I answer the Austrian thing, let’s address the matter that inspired this particular bit of misdirection on your part . . . Do you believe that Obama actually thinks there are 57 states, or did he just misspeak out of campaign weariness?

It’s a simple question. You’re a simple man. Make an effort. Take a stand. Assert yourself. Show the world you value truth.

RE #107/sheesh RE #106 “miss anthropicus . . . Yeah, that “pulled over for being male” stung a bit [...] But before I answer the Austrian thing, let’s address [...] Do you believe that Obama actually thinks there are 57 states, or did he just misspeak out of campaign weariness?

Sheeshkebob, resident fool@PJM:
1) I grandly enjoy when I see liberals using in an atack their adversary’s ALLEGED homosexuality – this shows very well how low they regard homosexuality and the homosexual cause – hey, keep slapping y/self baby, but it’s you, baby, and you got to live with it.
2) As far as Soetoro’s hilarious incursions in American political geography and European cultural geography – how could the “57th state” and the “Austrian language” things (amongst so many other inanities) be just “misspoken” when they were uttered by an acknowledged illiterate, liar and fraudster?
Aren’t those idiocies the product of the same mind that, after years of academic immersion at Columbia U (my! my!), have bestowed upon us as a 1987 graduate work the momentous “US-Soviet Nuclear Situation” and the “Post-Colonial, North-South Relationships”?

Sheeshkebob, you sorry meat wiggling on a stick – don’t we have in Soetero’s pronouncements a solid, revealing pattern of ignorance? So, QUED.
Looking forward for hearing from you that I am gay – I love to see liberals drowning.

sheesh – Actually, Obama meant 57 states… as in there are 57 Muslim States in the world. There are, y’know. That’s where his head was.

Regardless, after his inane speech in Cairo with all its factual errors, I don’t think he misspeaks. I think the facts simply do not matter to him. All that counts is the Narrative.

As for Palin speaking of being able to see Russia from AK, she was emphasizing the proximity of Russia to her State, and thus, Alaskans’ awareness of the importance of foreign affairs. They ARE rather isolated from the rest of the country. The Left just took that phrase and twisted its meaning. In fact, most on the Left are quoting the Tina Fey caricature, rather than Palin’s actual terminology.