Wow man. This is crazy fast. Were there any power adders at all? This is 6mt as well?
I'm noticing 1 shift.

No power adders I know of, except 200 CEL cats and supersprint exhaust, it's DCT for sure, it's very difficult to see shifts on the DCT, but if you know approx where they are you can detect them. He shifted 3 times. At times you can detect one more easily sometimes not, if the G's completely drop that helps. The program used in the first graph has thicker lines so that shift was easily more detectable with that program when you look at the speed and the scaling has an effect too at times.

With the Racelogic program, it's almost undetectable when you look at speed, but you do see the G's drop, other DCT graphs show G's dropping like this on shifts as well, at times they don't.

With Vbox tools it's a little easier to see that one shift you are talking about with a different scaling.

No power adders I know of, except 200 CEL cats and supersprint exhaust, it's DCT for sure, it's very difficult to see shifts on the DCT, but if you know approx where they are you can detect them. He shifted 3 times. At times you can detect one more easily sometimes not, if the G's completely drop that helps. The program used in the first graph has thicker lines so that shift was easily more detectable with that program when you look at the speed and the scaling has an effect too at times.

With the Racelogic program, it's almost undetectable when you look at speed, but you do see the G's drop, other DCT graphs show G's dropping like this on shifts as well, at times they don't.

With Vbox tools it's a little easier to see that one shift you are talking about with a different scaling.

I told you the car felt crazy fast during the run and now that I am reading the grpahs from 2nd to 3rd gear car was pulling in excess of 1G!!!
As for the drop when I shifted from 4th to 5th there might have been a small slipping invloved or even possibly hitting the limiter for a split second as I was in manual!

I told you the car felt crazy fast during the run and now that I am reading the grpahs from 2nd to 3rd gear car was pulling in excess of 1G!!!
As for the drop when I shifted from 4th to 5th there might have been a small slipping invloved or even possibly hitting the limiter for a split second as I was in manual!

How the F were you able to pull 1g at 74 mph? That's amazing!
Were you running any power adders?
What is your peak boost?

How the F were you able to pull 1g at 74 mph? That's amazing!
Were you running any power adders?
What is your peak boost?

Congrats on the run man!

No problem Craig, you brought up some great points as always. The time is flat out unreal. When I hit 6.8, it was in the middle of summer and I did have some wheel spin going from 2nd to 3rd. Costas was in much cooler weather, and he hooked on this incredible run. Seeing that he holds the NA E9X M3 record I wasn't suprised it was him, but I was a little shocked by this time!

Not sure if you saw my post but I noticed that your time is quicker than the other ESS VT600 kit with 100 shot. Were you running any power adders or were you just running more boost?

Craig I think your question is fair, and I understand your skeptism, but he already listed what he was running, I listed what he was running in the first post on the matter, I also said the car was DCT, yet you still thought that it was a 6MT.

The file was checked by myself, you, 6speedonline and he's posted all the mods he was running, I'm not sure what else he can say. There are always cars that just run faster, in every platform for various reasons, hence the reason the 1st post says -

When comparing the below 60-130 and 1/4 mile results, please keep in mind that variances in temperature, humidity, road surface conditions, tire grip, and driver input can all have a measurable impact on the data.

I mentioned some solid reaons why his time improved, and again he owns the M3 NA record 9.7, and the 997TT flash/exhaust record, so he knows what he's doing.

Craig I think your question is fair, and I understand your skeptism, but he already listed what he was running, I listed what he was running in the first post on the matter, I also said the car was DCT, yet you still thought that it was a 6MT.

The file was checked by myself, you, 6speedonline and he's posted all the mods he was running, I'm not sure what else he can say. There are always cars that just run faster, in every platform for various reasons, hence the reason the 1st post says -

When comparing the below 60-130 and 1/4 mile results, please keep in mind that variances in temperature, humidity, road surface conditions, tire grip, and driver input can all have a measurable impact on the data.

I mentioned some solid reaons why his time improved, and again he owns the M3 NA record 9.7, and the 997TT flash/exhaust record, so he knows what he's doing.

Drew, no disrespect brother but I wasn't asking you.
I was asking madsex. I saw your post but i never saw him post what he had.

I know he holds a couple records so does this mean that he keeps getting factory freaks?if we were talking manuals then I can see the comparison of shift times.
Who knows, maybe the atmospheric pressure is just incredibly high in Greece lol.
Actually, I'm very curious to see what you do with your LC motor. Hopefully you can do better or it's going to look a little strange.

Drew, no disrespect brother but I wasn't asking you.
I was asking madsex. I saw your post but i never saw him post what he had.

I know he holds a couple records so does this mean that he keeps getting factory freaks?if we were talking manuals then I can see the comparison of shift times.
Who knows, maybe the atmospheric pressure is just incredibly high in Greece lol.
Actually, I'm very curious to see what you do with your LC motor. Hopefully you can do better or it's going to look a little strange.

None taken, but him telling me and then me posting the info isn't good enough for you? Costas, please answer his questions, I think they're fair.

Do you think it's a little strange that a car drops over 1 second off their time? That's all Costas did from his last run, according to him it's all do too traction. Regardless of what I run with my new setup, I have no doubt a LC motor running 11+psi will easily outrun a VT600 head to head, same day. But without good traction that time will be tough to beat.

Not sure if you saw my post but I noticed that your time is quicker than the other ESS VT600 kit with 100 shot. Were you running any power adders or were you just running more boost?

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

Not sure if you saw my post but I noticed that your time is quicker than the other ESS VT600 kit with 100 shot. Were you running any power adders or were you just running more boost?

I am very sorry... I guess you must have missed the thread I opened here http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=665208
from the moment the time was official, huh...
No worries my friend as I am explaining there quite clearly I believe that there was no bogus hocus pocus stuff - it just happened!
As for ALL my other cars they were indeed ALL manual (this is my first auto) and I did in fact drive them quite a bit better than most other guys out there evidently! I even hold from 2005 the national stock M3 E46 1/4mile official record time and on street tyres and even today people who simply can not accept nor understand the difference between good and best are trying to figure it out... Now having said all this (and sorry for the delayed reply but I was away for a racing weekend at Yas Marina circuit UAE competing in the National Touring Car Championship), driving this dct M3 does not need half the skill needed to take the 997 up to it's max potential, however it does take some efforts and trials to get everything perfectly aligned for the perfect run! And a bit of luck at the same time I must add...
Nevertheless the car is easy breaking into mid -high 6's no matter what so that 1 perfect run at 6.2 although amazing and very fast is within reach apparently!

Do you think it's a little strange that a car drops over 1 second off their time? That's all Costas did from his last run, according to him it's all do too .

Well to be fair I told everyone from day one that the 7.4 time was NOT even close to what the car could actually do! It was simply a test run after break-in proving that the car was powerfull and was with stock tyres and starting in 3rd gear!!!! So this is not a case of me dropping 1.2 sec from my previous best as the previous best obviously was wayyy below my cars capabilities...
For God's sake how can we even compare the 2 runs starting in different gears when talking abt sg cars????

I am very sorry... I guess you must have missed the thread I opened here http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=665208
from the moment the time was official, huh...
No worries my friend as I am explaining there quite clearly I believe that there was no bogus hocus pocus stuff - it just happened!
As for ALL my other cars they were indeed ALL manual (this is my first auto) and I did in fact drive them quite a bit better than most other guys out there evidently! I even hold from 2005 the national stock M3 E46 1/4mile official record time and on street tyres and even today people who simply can not accept nor understand the difference between good and best are trying to figure it out... Now having said all this (and sorry for the delayed reply but I was away for a racing weekend at Yas Marina circuit UAE competing in the National Touring Car Championship), driving this dct M3 does not need half the skill needed to take the 997 up to it's max potential, however it does take some efforts and trials to get everything perfectly aligned for the perfect run! And a bit of luck at the same time I must add...
Nevertheless the car is easy breaking into mid -high 6's no matter what so that 1 perfect run at 6.2 although amazing and very fast is within reach apparently!

Wow. That's extremely impressive.
I have a feeling that you will be at the top of the list for a while.
Oh Yah and I didn't see the other thread btw. Thanks

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