This is a tough call, and though its Feb. 19 and still no decent pattern set up for the next 8 to 10 days for cold and snow.............something can(though not likely) still happen and bump up snow totals

As far as a winter pattern......this one is up there with some of the worst, with barely any cold dumps and a continued progressive pattern leading to no sustained cold outbreaks, horrible winter blocking setups, and barley any changes to teleconnections...

Snow can happen even in spring, so verdict will have to wait on that........winter pattern, done.....

This winter was slightly better for NYC than 01-02. It's really not because we surpassed the 3.5 inches in 01-02. It's because there were really no cold outbreaks at all. There was a brief one in late Dec as I recall but atleast this winter we had several bursts of cold air despite the fact that not a single one of them had any staying power. The other thing that stands out is that 01-02 had some real torch stretches in it. I clearly remember days in Feb well into the 60's and there may have been a 70 in there as well. As warm as its been this wintere here, there really haven't been any torches comparable to what occured in 01-02. The better term would be its been a "mild" winter, not necessarily a blow torch, atleast not in these parts. Consistent/persistent mildness but no real torch IMO. On a brighter note, we all know what happened the following winter in 02-03

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"FOR THE WINTER 2014-15........If the Modoki Nino forms......LOOK OUT! Is it really possible to top last winter?

This winter was slightly better for NYC than 01-02. It's really not because we surpassed the 3.5 inches in 01-02. It's because there were really no cold outbreaks at all. There was a brief one in late Dec as I recall but atleast this winter we had several bursts of cold air despite the fact that not a single one of them had any staying power. The other thing that stands out is that 01-02 had some real torch stretches in it. I clearly remember days in Feb well into the 60's and there may have been a 70 in there as well. As warm as its been this wintere here, there really haven't been any torches comparable to what occured in 01-02. The better term would be its been a "mild" winter, not necessarily a blow torch, atleast not in these parts. Consistent/persistent mildness but no real torch IMO. On a brighter note, we all know what happened the following winter in 02-03

Hopefully we can insert a "1" instead of a zero to make it a better winter in 12-13

Hopefully we can insert a "1" instead of a zero to make it a better winter in 12-13

Now that would be awesome !!!

Does anyone know what ever happened to OHweather2 (JIM)? I haven't seen that guy once this whole winter. He was very knowledgable and a great edition to this forum. Hopefully he'll return at some point!

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"FOR THE WINTER 2014-15........If the Modoki Nino forms......LOOK OUT! Is it really possible to top last winter?

I'm going to say 2001-2002 was worse for us. At least this winter, we've already surpassed the meager 4.42" inches of rain recorded in Downtown L.A. that winter (they have 5.22" right now). Only 3.87" inches of rain was recorded in my town from July 1st, 2001 through June 30th, 2002 (the full measuring period for a rainy season). At the time, 2001-2002 was our driest rainy season in recorded history (dating back to the 1880s). At least we're doing better than that this winter, although not by all that much. And while I know you guys in the Northeast/Midwest weren't affected by this at all - 2006-2007 was actually even worse; that became our official driest rainy season in history just a few years later. Only 3.21" inches of rain was recorded in Downtown L.A. between July 1st, 2006 and June 30th, 2007. That's just horrible. But if I remember correctly, you guys up there didn't have a bad winter like we did then.