Evan Liang is the CEO of LeanData and anyone that knows him quickly discovers his passion for fixing the gaping holes and ABM system limitations that exist in out-of-the-box Salesforce deployments. Five years ago, he and his team created LeanData — lead management software that was created specifically to address the data challenges for enabling account based sales and marketing within Salesforce including linkages like lead to account matching. On this episode, I ask him to share his entrepreneurial backstory along with discussing the current state of inbound vs outbound, the challenges of sales and marketing alignment, ABM, and campaign attribution. If you use, or plan to use, marketing automation and Salesforce, give this podcast a listen to get some awesome insights on how to leap over the hurdles on the journey to account based marketing.