Fifty-six university presidents attended the morning session, which lasted more than 3½ hours.

Kansas State president Kirk Schultz, tweeting from inside the meeting room, questioned how many rules are necessary to police college sports. He also noted there was lots of discussion about making penalties strong enough to be a deterrent and requiring coaches to take responsibility for all aspects of their programs including assistant coaches.

NCAA President Mark Emmert is expected to take questions following the final session of the two-day presidential retreat.

He has repeatedly said he favors deregulation, stronger penalties and even a separate penalty structure for less serious violations.