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We live in dire world where basic ancient foodstuffs like lard are now only something arcane, possibly fancy, foodie, etc. I mean come on dudes, its LARD.

Margarine and vegetable shortening are such freaky products from a hellish agrochemical culture of the mid 20th century. I know they date to at least wwII but I think, from my experience growing up, processed food really surged in the 60s and 70s.

Speaking of Soylent Green, I saw Snowpiercer last weekend. I don't think it came out yet in the states? Every damn star seems to be in this Korean production. Its kinda of like The 5th Element - when France decided it could make a global blockbuster and filmed in English. Also, style similarities - what is a global blockbuster like when its not a Hollywood product?

Anyway, in a very near dystopian future, the world is frozen and the last remnants of humanity live on a super train that is a self-sustaining bio-dome of sorts, which travels around the globe continuously, taking a year for each lap.

The steerage passengers eat a gelatinous protein bar that isn't made from people, or shit, but just as disgusting. Also one dude has the last remaining Camel cigarettes.

We live in dire world where basic ancient foodstuffs like lard are now only something arcane, possibly fancy, foodie, etc. I mean come on dudes, its LARD.

Margarine and vegetable shortening are such freaky products from a hellish agrochemical culture of the mid 20th century. I know they date to at least wwII but I think, from my experience growing up, processed food really surged in the 60s and 70s.

Speaking of Soylent Green, I saw Snowpiercer last weekend. I don't think it came out yet in the states? Every damn star seems to be in this Korean production. Its kinda of like The 5th Element - when France decided it could make a global blockbuster and filmed in English. Also, style similarities - what is a global blockbuster like when its not a Hollywood product?

Anyway, in a very near dystopian future, the world is frozen and the last remnants of humanity live on a super train that is a self-sustaining bio-dome of sorts, which travels around the globe continuously, taking a year for each lap.

The steerage passengers eat a gelatinous protein bar that isn't made from people, or shit, but just as disgusting. Also one dude has the last remaining Camel cigarettes.

Processed food began to surge after air-conditioned warehouses became a reality and commercial freezers were readily available. Then came the TV dinner, canned you name it and a smattering of frozen things that continues to grow. The difference between Montreal markets and US markets could not be more apparent. There is little processed food here as much of it is made the day it is consumed. We market every other day or so, because so much of our food is fresh. Our fridges are also smaller, because you don't freeze much stuff and unless you feed a large family, you don't need the space since you are buying food every other day or so.

As to our future, I believe that the real wars have yet to come and they will be over one object: Water.

Indeed fat surrounding the kidney,s is much prized the time I asked for it at Moan,s Clapham Common , http://moen.co.uk/I was told a] there was a waiting list B] and I wish I could remember the exact words because the butcher was clearly a loss to diplomacy that my weekly or weakly expenditure would not get me near the list , so with as much dignity as I could muster I added some posh sausages to the bill , unable to think off a way to remind him that I did buy, pheasant ,partridge ,wood pidgin and grouse.

But as some ole skinny lesser Ariosto was paying off her culminated bill for the month £750 while agreeing with her friend that yes it was "such fun sometimes to do one,s own shopping' I just agreeably left .

There was a period late 80,s into the 90,s when if you knew ought about real cooking you could get stock bones, fats and a conversation from the butcher pleased to find someone who knew about all this. Moan,s even plucked the pheasants I bought back from visits to parent,s . And you could buy goose fat at a price whereby a mortgage repayment did not have to be delayed.

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I rec'd a very thoughtful gift in the mail today from Hopey. Assorted homemade truffles!!!! Already ate 2 on the way home from retrieving the mail. Now I only have to fix a lite, very lite dinner.

Greg I say this with love but it was only a week ago when you where rightly worried that you had dropped below 140 pounds. Leave all this crap calorie counting to the neurotic urbanites its compilled by and for. In fact ban yourself from ever considering bloody calories ever again . If you intend to be a vegetarian buy a good wholefood cookbook which will explain minor and major proteins and then eat eat eat for the love off it and the health it brings.

If you have access to fresh food buy it, get a bread maker and buy flour on line , find good cheese / fresh eggs milk cream fish and enjoy them . Chocs are treats not in anyway an influence on what should be a good meal.

Your regular posts about your eating are bonkers and do your health no good at all. Get on and do something proper about it.

As I say with exasperated love.Michael

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Thanks Michael. I really appreciate the concern. It has gotten better and I'm continuing to work on it. Unfortunately, I simply don't enjoy food to the degree that others do. My diet is actually pretty decent except during stressful times. That's when my ridiculousness kicks in.

Being able to address it here has actually assisted quite a bit. These are some deep seated, long term issues that I'm finally addressing.

OH, and I did post in another thread that I had some deep fried French fries today and I had some steak just a couple of weeks ago....so I call that progress.

put here simply because we talk here, and its about nutrition. apologies to ms p and wumpy, i realize this isn't in the spirit of the thread.

wolf, in another thread you displayed unique incite into the choice of words that a poster was using. although i hadn't seen it myself, when you pointed it out, it became crystal clear. without saying it in so many words, you let him know that you understand, he has an eating disorder. you handled acknowledging that very delicately and with alot of empathy. i want to commend you for that. i hope he took stock in what you said, and knows how to read between the lines.

you hinted you have had your own eating disorder, or maybe i misunderstood. i hope that is in your past man. even with my personal experience with someone that has it, you saw what i didn't. my sister struggled with, and i think still does, her relationship with food. at first, i thought it was a control thing, we had a rough early childhood, she had no control over many things that were happening around her, to her, so she controlled the only thing she could, what went in her mouth. later though, i think it became a body image thing, that was when the purging started. i hated that.

i just wanted to say, i saw what you did there, and it was a good thing. and it brought up some things i sort of let go long ago.

maybe when i can drive i'll go visit sissy, take her out for a great salad lunch, beets, arugala, mushrooms and goat cheese. something fine, but light. with a raspberry dressing

she is in st louis, i kind of hate it there, but she married that guy so.

i don't run out, ever. i keep spares in the closet. people joke that i have a white trash wine cellar in my hall closet. my newest thing is a modified bladder for backpacking, with a hose routed around the shoulder strap, and a bite valve that dangles at my mouth for easy access. the bladder fits perfect in the side pocket of my pack. i'm brilliant i guess, worked out how to drink and hike. and my hiking staff is a bamboo pole, the top section i've modified to be a pipe, can add water and make it a bubbler. i think creativity is important.

she is in st louis, i kind of hate it there, but she married that guy so.

i don't run out, ever. i keep spares in the closet. people joke that i have a white trash wine cellar in my hall closet. my newest thing is a modified bladder for backpacking, with a hose routed around the shoulder strap, and a bite valve that dangles at my mouth for easy access. the bladder fits perfect in the side pocket of my pack. i'm brilliant i guess, worked out how to drink and hike. and my hiking staff is a bamboo pole, the top section i've modified to be a pipe, can add water and make it a bubbler. i think creativity is important.

that's hardcore dude, I simply fill an empty bottle about 3/4 full and partially freeze it. When I'm ready for whatever daily trek I'm on, I fill it the rest of the way and am ready to go. Although, I don't take it along any longer on my 25+ mile bike rides as I had an incident a couple of years ago. I was the furthest point from home when I decided it was time for a beverage. It was such a beautiful area and before I knew it, I had finished huge amounts of wine.

I made it to within a mile of the house before I veered off the road and over a mountain side. Luckily, I didn't lose my phone as I had to call my brother to come rescue me else I'd still be laying 60 feet down that embankment. So now, I only take it along when hiking.

Thanks Michael. I really appreciate the concern. It has gotten better and I'm continuing to work on it. Unfortunately, I simply don't enjoy food to the degree that others do. My diet is actually pretty decent except during stressful times. That's when my ridiculousness kicks in.

Being able to address it here has actually assisted quite a bit. These are some deep seated, long term issues that I'm finally addressing.

OH, and I did post in another thread that I had some deep fried French fries today and I had some steak just a couple of weeks ago....so I call that progress.

Thank you Greg, I have been worried about it. I have my own issues and that influenced my reply to you greatly , if for what ever reason eating is a problem I know that its only dealt with by discipline and diligence though not off course the discipline and diligence that is such a feature off restrictive eating. Like Zack I have noticed off late a far more encouraging attitude from you and the post kind off was a shock back to the place you had been working so hard on moving on from.All the best and again thank you for your responce.Michael

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U-jelliz is that the pudding? Need to have the ingrediants. Don,t tend to suffer envy at others food stuff , just when they have someone off skill do it for them when they are poorly and all, then a light green tinge has to be dealt with.Enjoy!As the waiting staff are now saying. Like its a command.

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Uhh no....'cause I know none of you Nancies are eating Ribeye tonight...Under that mountain of fresh grilled mushrooms and onion is 15 ounces of pure God given majestic meat, grilled under the crystal blue skies of south Texas,

and yes half way through it I threw the fork down and picked it up with my hands and ate it as a real man should..CANT DO THAT IN A FANCY RESTARAUNT!

Im having hand dipped and golden crispy chicken breast quarters with a side of pasta and cheese sauce along with lately battered and flash fried potato's portions with a 2014 bottle of chilled diet coke .

Im having hand dipped and golden crispy chicken breast quarters with a side of pasta and cheese sauce along with lately battered and flash fried potato's portions with a 2014 bottle of chilled diet coke .

Full explanation required regarding why ENGLISH COX should make one snicker.Its an abbreviation as the said apples name is.

Cox,s Orange Pippin. It is a relatively young apple

It is the apple that raised yours truly , for Americans it would be thought small , notable rustic Peel firm crisp flesh , first taste tart then the mouth floods with a rich sweetness. Excellent with a slice of Cheddar from the round mature of course and some real ale.,from a Cellar not a Fridge the ale that is.

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Excellent when toting up your carbon"Food Miles" at the end off the week , do they have an open stand pipe Ala Vichy and many others throughout Europe .

Staying with Lady Jane near Rhonda , Spain water collecting took up as long as you wanted it to. As each public spring was famous for something or other. So you returned home with 2 lt plastic bottles labelled San Lois---FARTS.,Lorca rd---itchy skin. And so on. Plus lots off gossip collected en route. Bliss.

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There was quite the craze for Orange Box labells when I was a laddie in the sixties , they intrigued me , could not work out how the colours where dark and bright at the same time , lots off Spanish ladies but they mostly had USA another confusion for a 8 year old.

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Some smarty pants franchiser should cut a deal with corporate to do local, sustainable, bio if possible, fast food.McDonalds gives it the college try to source nationally, and this being tiny switzeland, that is just about the same as locally. All they need now is to buy bio. Why do I think people would be happy to spend the extra franc or two to stuff their kids full of politically-correct, real tasting versions of McDo?

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Some smarty pants franchiser should cut a deal with corporate to do local, sustainable, bio if possible, fast food.McDonalds gives it the college try to source nationally, and this being tiny switzeland, that is just about the same as locally. All they need now is to buy bio. Why do I think people would be happy to spend the extra franc or two to stuff their kids full of politically-correct, real tasting versions of McDo?

Not sure about locally sourced but there are some healthy fast food chains like www.veggiegrill.comThere is also a Mexican fast food chain here that uses locally produced food.

Not really, just amazed by the amount of replies you have, I bet you never thought it would go this far did ya!

ArohaJan

I go big in everything I do.

but I guess I should give credit where it's due, even though it is going to kill me to say this....but this thread was MissP's brilliant idea. Actually I think she started it to make fun of my shitty eating.

ALERT! FIRST RAMPS OF THE SEASON HAVE APPEARED AT READING TERMINAL MARKET

I really don't get it, do you also dig for dandelion mere blocks from your home as well. All kidding aside, as a kid my Mom was one of the first Organic Gardeners I swear. The first time we had Milkweed was to say the least very interesting. Enjoy!