Sean Parker, the onetime founding president of Facebook and co-founder of Napster, is not the social media advocate he once was.

Speaking at an Axios event on Wednesday, Parker said he has evolved into “something of a conscientious objector” when it comes to social media, though he does still use his Twitter and Facebook accounts. Parker said that Facebook CEO and co-founder Mark Zuckerberg (among other social media entrepreneurs) understood that they were launching a website that could be addicting, “and we did it anyway.”

“The thought process that went into building these applications, Facebook being the first of them . . . was all about: ‘How do we consume as much of your time and conscious attention as possible?’” Parker told Axios.