Friday, July 18, 2014

Seeds Of Betrayal: Multiple Examples Of How RS And AK Have Tried To Apply More Blame To The Other

This report of 18 July 2014 will be updated soon. There were myriad instances in their two books and several new instances in the media since, the latest being Sollecito on Porta a Porta on 6 February 2015. Knox’s silence and the spiraling nastiness of her gang suggest stark reality is setting in. Stalking of the Kerchers is reaching a dangerous pitch. Whatever happened to “nice girl Knox”?

How Sollecito and Knox So Threaten One Another

The other day, a claim was posted that claimed sources had said Knox would soon accuse Sollecito.

This inspired quite an outcry, and the claim’s heavy-handed suppression. Can you believe: by legal means? That claim really rattled a few cages.

Why was the claim so dangerous? Because for nearly seven years Sollecito and Knox have repeatedly cycled between occasional chummy hugs and numerous aggrieved potshots. And for the most part the more-aggrieved Sollecito has come out ahead.

In 2007 (see below) Sollecito really dropped Knox in the drink and both fired off a lot of potshots.

From 2008 right through 2011, desperate for confirmation of an alibi, an anxious Knox beamed pleas at a sullen Sollecito, for example in the form of love letters she wrote, and a public request to have a private chat.

From 2012 upon provisional release it was Knox being sullen and hard to get and Sollecito in puppy-dog mode. He might have been driven by a genuine desire for a renewed relationship, but a bid to set himself up safely in the United States might have made Knox wonder if this was true love.

And from mid 2013 public potshots have been fast and furious, many now on Twitter, and Italy in particular is closely watching the show and waits agog as the justice system applies more and more pressure.

Our main posts tracking this dont (for now) include the numerous veiled potshots in the RS and AK books, the reason being that we are waiting for the Florence and Bergamo prosecutors’ new charges for what they identify as the defamatory claims in each book to be made public. As usual we are tracking them closely, rather than jumping the gun, to avoid confusion.

Some of the potshots were active-aggressive (as in: they actually complain about one another) and some are passive-aggressive (as in: they try to help themselves but conspicuously ignore the other.)

You can sample both flavors below.

1. The year 2007

Our emerging Interrogation Hoax series quotes multiple witnesses testifying how quickly and decisively Knox and Sollecito got off to a fast start in dropping the other in the drink. Too many posts of relevance to include all here, but see this.

From 6 November 2007 Knox and Sollecito were kept separated, and were not allowed to talk. (That continued to late 2011.) Sollecito was pretty easy to read: he had little interest in talk. A sulky silence was his norm.

1. On 6 November Sollecito’s statement to Inspectors Moscatelli and Napoleoni included this about Knox :

I know Amanda for two weeks. From the evening I first met her she started sleeping at my house.

The first of November I woke up about 11.00, I had breakfast with Amanda, then she went out and I went back to bed. I then met up with her at her house around 13.00-14.00. In there was Meredith who left in a hurry about 16.00 without saying where she was going.

Amanda and I went to the [town] centre about 18.00 but I don’t remember what we did. We remained in the centre till 20.30 or 21.00.

I went to my house alone at 21.00, while Amanda said that she was going to the pub Le Chic because she wanted to meet with her friends.

At this point we said goodbye. I went home, I made a joint. Had dinner, but I don’t remember what I ate. About 23.00 my father called me on my house phone line.

I recall Amanda was not back yet.

I web surfed on the computer for two more hours after my father’s phone call and I only stopped when Amanda came back in, presumably about 01.00…

In my previous statement I told a load of rubbish because Amanda had convinced me of her version of the facts and I didn’t think about the inconsistencies.

2. Yikes. Knox finds her best alibi yanked. Not so long after, possibly knowing about this, Knox comes out with a statement which points at Sollecito in turn.

I don’t know for sure if Raffaele was there that night [during the attack on Meredith] but I do remember very well waking up at my boyfriend’s house, in his bed, and I went back to my house in the morning where I found the door open.

3. Then on 8 November 2007 Sollecito submitted a statement to Judge Matteini which began “I never want to see Amanda again. Above all, it is her fault we are here.”

4. There were multiple further instances throughout the rest of 2007, quotes of which will be included soon in the Knox Interrogation Hoax series.

2. The Year 2008

5. Knox and Sollecito each appealed Judge Matteini’s ruling to the Supreme Court. Neither helped the other at all. Both appeals failed in April and they were each kept locked up.

After his team’s (attempted) discounting of the main evidence at Meredith’s house against Sollecito, Knox’s position looks way worse, as she has motives both for killing and cover-up.

19. Click here forIs The Raffaele Sollecito Defense Team About To Separate Him From A Radioactive Amanda Knox?

Final days. Sollecito has at least five advantages over Knox. Better lead lawyer, better family in Italian eyes with smarter campaign, not much physical evidence at the house, no obvious motive unlike Knox, and a weak and washy personality Bongiorno plays up.

6. The Year 2012

20. Click here forIn Desperation A Council Of War? All Of The Sollecito Family Suddenly Hop On Flights To Seattle

Sollecito is the one now in puppy-dog mode, though his father has said publicly that the relationship with Knox is at an end; here the RS family sets out for Seattle to try to make it so.

22. Click here forWill Sollecito Drop Amanda Knox In It Further In A Public Seattle Interview At 7:00 PM Tonight?

Sollecito’s American book promotion tour often went badly and he seemed unaware of what was in his own book; though once again he was making out Knox was guiltier. His defense team despise the book.

7. The Year 2013

23. Click here forKnox & Sollecito Meet - To Attempt To Bury The Hatchet Other Than In Each Other?

The second public Sollecito attempt to end up with Knox, who already had chips on her shoulders about him but went through this charade. Soon, they were back to whacking one another.

24. Click here forSeeds Of Betrayal: Sollecito Twice More Implies Evidence Against Knox Much Stronger Than Against Him

Sollecito sustains this steady drum-beat of putting Knox down, highlighting the evidence against her, repeatedly saying he stuck with her despite no evidence against him (no deal helping RS was ever offered).

Knox does an extended interview with Oggi (for which she and Oggi are being charged) lying about officials and the evidence, but also uttering her angriest blast yet against Sollecito.

8. The Year 2014

26. Click here forRejected Yet Again By Knox, Sollecito Seems Frantic To Avoid What Might Be A Final Return To Italy

Sollecito (like Sforza) was desperately looking for someone to marry him, to keep him in the US. Kelsey Kay was briefly interested, but he dumped her; he had told her Knox had recently turned him down.

Bongiorno shows contempt for Knox; she effectively conveys the sense of the RS family that a crazed Knox dragged RS into this. She see the RS book as a pro-Knox con job by her team.

28. Click here forAs Knox & Sollecito Try To Separate Themselves, Each Is Digging The Other In Deeper

Sollecito is clearly trying to distance himself from Knox now, claiming that there is far more evidence against her than against him. Knox’s irritation with him is growing.

29. Click here forSollecito Suddenly Remembers He Wasnt There But Cannot Speak For Knox Who (As She Said) Went Out

Members of Sollecito’s family are believed to be taking their anger at Knox to Twitter and making numerous taunts while emphasizing how they believe Sollecito was dropped in it by Knox and is less to blame.

30. Click here forSpitting In the Wind: Sollecito News Conference Backfires On Him AND Knox - What The Media Missed

Really irritated at the US-written RS book, Bongiorno goes a long way to separating the two perps in the minds of Italians; however RS hedges a little though, after having said the evidence points only to Knox.

Knox As Present Big Loser; Where Next For Her?

These are not all of our posts which include talk of this pushing and pulling, and it happened so frequently that often we simply passed on posting for fear of monotony.

The war by other means continues on Twitter and briefly it hit the crazy-for-Knox Ground Report website. Much damage to Knox is already done, and Italians adamantly want her in prison.

Even in the US the media have cooled on Knox, and as her dwindling supporters become wilder and wilder they too do harm to her paid-for nice-girl image.

A brighter family and paid team would now be saying “It is time for a Plan B and doing something to warm up Italy”.

The hijacking of the writing of the Sollecito book by the Knox people is what drives Bongiorno’s fury and makes the latest episode in Rome far from the last round.

The book actually makes Sollecito look very anti-Italy as well as a puffed-up nasty little creep with delusions of grandeur. (Nothing could be further from the truth, right?!!!)

When the charges against the book go public, expect a further dip in RS’s popularity in Italy, further damage to his prospects, further venom against AK who is ostensibly in charge of her crazy hordes.

She needs to get on with her under-the-bus throwing, disposing of her hordes this time around.

I do agree the two camps are threatening each other, Peter. It’s a spider dance we’ve been observing carried on through Twitter and Facebook ever since Raffaele’s interview though he showed intimations of such at the Florence Appeal.

That Knox actually showed up on Ground Report to deny the Ted Thomson article (and all the official denials from the managing editor and co-founder Paul Sterne) pretty well confirms the original article was planted by Camp Knox.

In his delusion, he clearly really believes that Harry Rag is Kercher senior, therefore part of an anti-Amanda conspiracy and so fair game.

It’s all gone way beyond farce. Aldous Huxley was once asked if he understood madness and he thought that once you start with the wrong idea, everything can seem like a conspiracy against you.

I reckon that kind of creeping and progressive paranoia also applies to irrational types who for varying reasons become heavily and emotionally invested in a cause. Their venom increases as they inevitably begin to see evidence of conspiracy everywhere.

That tweeting about John Kercher is about as sick as it gets. The Kerchers have always played ZERO role behind the scenes. They witnessed a very fair trial in 2009 (at the end of which they were very restrained about the guilty verdict) and then had to witness a hijacked appeal in 2011.

They never go on the internet. They’re hundreds of thousands in debt. Neither the UK nor Italy give them any help. And John and Arline both have major health problems. John had two strokes and while I dont know the details I doubt if John could pen “Meredith” now.

My heart goes out to the Kerchers as they have to keep paying over and over for a crime committed against them. If AK and RS would have admitted to their crimes instead of lying all these years perhaps there would have been a sense of ‘closure’.

Luckily, time is running out on them and both know (in their heart of hearts) what the outcome will be. My understanding is that none of this PR work affects anything with the Courts so I would assume they are hoping for pity or mitigating circumstances in their final sentencing?

It is shameful the lack of compassion, and worse, manifested towards the Kercher family. Even a short period of high stress is known to have a deeply detrimental affect on all aspects of one’s health and well-being.

For substantial stress to have been sustained for years in the way it has is nothing short of cruel and sadistic bullying. Those responsible should be ashamed.

Thanks, TJMK Main Posters, for a nice overview of the Knox-Sollecito duel.

It’s amazing that as early as a week after the murder, Sollecito is saying to Moscatelli that Amanda left his apartment from 9pm to 1am. Then they agreed on the story of being together all night. His recent Rome press conference shed doubt on that.

Then shortly after his Rome derring-do, a Ground Report article announced Amanda’s plan to blame Raffaelle for the murder. After that bombshell the article was pulled. Now Mr. Sterne’s reasons for that decision provide a new post, under which hundreds of comments are reenacting the database of evidence against Knox with arguments pro and con. Some bash Maresca and continue to insult Mignini and spout the most outrageous theories, while denying all evidence against Knox and holding out hope that ECHR will save her or extradition will be stymied.

I rewatched the Lifetime movie with Hayden Panettiere. When it first was broadcast I saw only the errors in it, so fresh was the story of the murder. This time it revealed the diligent line of police work, and the only conclusions to be drawn from the knife, footprints and phone calls, etc.

The actress who portrayed Meredith was moving. There was much pathos in the scene of her confronting Amanda about the cleaning of the flat. Then, thinking they were back in one accord she walks shoulder to shoulder with her down stone steps. What happy friends they might have been had Amanda made any effort, or had she just slapped Meredith’s face and said, “I’m moving out.” Anything would be better than what happened, even insults or scissored clothes and torn textbooks.

Mignini was brilliant. The script showed how incensed he was that the American PR weapon was aimed at freeing Amanda by destroying his reputation. So the PR noise only angered and put Italy’s back up by the use of such tactics and irrelevant mudslinging. The Marriott blank ammunition was useless except to produce the returned fire of strengthened perseverance from Mignini and his Florence successors.

The theme of the movie, “Murder on Trial”, seemed to be about lost dreams. People who had so much going for them dashed someone’s dreams, took a life, then had their own dreams destroyed as a result. The idyll of Italy smashed by vandals of the soul. The tragedy of lost dreams in the old song, ” Tell me, How Can You Mend a Broken Heart…How do you stop the sun from shining? How do you stop the rain from falling? What makes the world go round?”

Meredith would never have let her dreams die, maybe they still energize the public memories of her.

Amanda > Guest • 5 hours ago
“This article was fake.
Why do people like you make up such stories?
I never planned to accuse Raffaele.
Period.
And I see your post everywhere, aren’t you tired?
I am really tired of all this talk about this article which was taken down by the way!
We are both innocent. I did not kill my friend.
I will not accuse Raffaele, and he will not accuse me either, we are both working with the Italian court.If R. was accusing me of something, I would defend myself and he would lose everything and he knows it. We are working side by side.
The Italian court made a mistake last time, that was not a fair trial, the judge was unfair. There is no evidence against us, we are both innocent
I believe we will get a fair trial and a fair judgement this time.
I am certain that the Italian Supreme court is not as corrupt as the previous court.
I was found innocent before, and we will be found innocent again.
That’s all I can say for now”

Do drop by and check it out, the Knoxii are deleting comments right left and center.

@SeekingUnderstanding, thank you very much. There must be something extremely special about Meredith that motivates people to stay connected to her so many years after her death.

Another thing re: the Lifetime movie. The Edda character arrives in Italy flustered and is told the mayor of Perugia has recommended defense counsel for Amanda. There’s much talk in that scene of the mayor. Maybe that’s why Amanda did have the mistaken impression at first that Mignini was the mayor (if the script used facts).

Marcia Gay Harden does a great job of playing Edda Mellas. When the first guilty verdict is announced her eyes lock with Arline’s across the courtroom in a scene of silent body language and tormented eyes.

I LOVE this website! Thank you again Peter. It is very interesting how Ted Thomson’s article has created such a reaction amongst the Cult Of Knox (C.O.K.) members!

Mr. Egon’s above post of the reply to me by Amanda is quite chilling. What did she mean by saying that Raffaele would lose “everything”? Surely, Raffaele is reading the comments on that article about himself on a daily basis. And, for sure, Amanda knows that.

So was that an outright death threat directed at him? Some of us think so. Others think that it was Amanda’s original plan after she got arrested but that Curt told her not to say that. Either way, we all know that Raffaele is going to confess to accessory to murder.

It will come either just before, during or after the final hearing. And we all know that she won’t be there to stop him. Unless, of course, she puts a mob hit on him.

The “volunteer editors” and “reporters” he’s referring to all seem to be Bruce Fischer and co. In fact, Bruce was boasting on IIP about having it taken down, so their verification of sources can be taken with a grain of slat.

That was where “Amanda” showed up, first on Ground Report then ABC news in response to our thousands of comments. Careful analysis of her writing indicates it was Amanda Knox. What she wrote, as can be seen in Nell’s link is quite chilling but also shows how worried she is about what the Sollecitos may do.

I believe Cristina Magnani and Sara Achille do the dirty work for Raffaele Sollecito, allowing him to keep up appearances and protecting him from a retaliation campaign by Knox.

In my opinion Cristina Magnani and Sara Achille have the family’s approval, otherwise Francesco Sollecito had already reined them in. He would not remain silent wouldn’t he agree with what is being said. He has been vocal in support of his son before.

I think the comment written under the name “Amanda” is either Amanda Knox herself or someone who has her approval, otherwise she would have already disassociated herself from the comments made in her name. Instead the comment containing the threat against Raffaele Sollecito was deleted from the profile while earlier comments remain intact.

I think it’s Knox. Since Raffaele Sollecito announced his separation strategy she hasn’t been the same. She has abandoned her blog and stayed quiet. She knows she’s going down.

It’s perhaps helpful to repeat what most of us know. Knox is a serial accuser…

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