Even considering the fact we don't actually see a fight out of Ichigo at full power (goddammit, Kubo ), we do see that Ichigo's "Intermediary" Tensa Zangetsu was indeed powerful enough to be a threat to Yhwach, even after getting his Hollow and Quincy power taken from him.

As for EoS, Zangetsu scales to the "Proto-Tensa Zangetsu" that Yhwach broke (perhaps even stronger).

Even considering the fact we don't actually see a fight out of Ichigo at full power (goddammit, Kubo ), we do see that Ichigo's "Intermediary" Tensa Zangetsu was indeed powerful enough to be a threat to Yhwach, even after getting his Hollow and Quincy power taken from him.

As for EoS, Zangetsu scales to the "Proto-Tensa Zangetsu" that Yhwach broke (perhaps even stronger).

I guess... doesen't help that he never really uses them outside of when they were first introduced to be part of his skillset.

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You can say that about the final fight as a whole. We were shown hints of what Ichigo's new potential was, and then it was all taken away for the rest of the story (the novel implies Ichigo's power came back, but that's no comfort, since Ichigo is likely to have no presence in the novels).

You can say that about the final fight as a whole. We were shown hints of what Ichigo's new potential was, and then it was all taken away for the rest of the story (the novel implies Ichigo's power came back, but that's no comfort, since Ichigo is likely to have no presence in the novels).

Something about Urahara voicing concerns that Aizen could manipulate Ichigo's Hollow, though I question whether Ichigo even told anyone he got his Hollow and Quincy powers stolen. We know he hasn't done well with handling personal failures, especially after the Time-Skip (it is like Kubo changed his entire character).

The overdrive shit is hundreds of teratons, too. Haru is WELL into country level+ like Ichigo is

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We have confirmation that there was a world-wide earthquake in the Living World (and the other two worlds by relation) when the Soul King died, and it was stated that Ichigo would have been turned into the new Soul King if Yhwach hadn't absorbed the Soul King's power, so Ichigo's base power can equal the Soul King's.

We have confirmation that there was a world-wide earthquake in the Living World (and the other two worlds by relation) when the Soul King died, and it was stated that Ichigo would have been turned into the new Soul King if Yhwach hadn't absorbed the Soul King's power, so Ichigo's base power can equal the Soul King's.

So it may depend on what number we'd get from that.

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Yeah, gonna need some new thread discussion for SK/Juha stuff. I can't be fucked to do it myself.

Something about Urahara voicing concerns that Aizen could manipulate Ichigo's Hollow, though I question whether Ichigo even told anyone he got his Hollow and Quincy powers stolen. We know he hasn't done well with handling personal failures, especially after the Time-Skip (it is like Kubo changed his entire character).

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Highly doubt they would write that into the novel while Ichigo has no powers.

Guess they are back after all, thank god.
The concept behind Zangetsu hollow being the real Zanpakuto was kinda cool since foreshadowed way back in SS arc.

Highly doubt they would write that into the novel while Ichigo has no powers.

Guess they are back after all, thank god.
The concept behind Zangetsu hollow being the real Zanpakuto was kinda cool since foreshadowed way back in SS arc.

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There is alot of things the novel finally clarified and it's still ongoing so it's a damn good thing that apparently Kubo is atleast alot better when he isn't drawing stuff to distract him from actually doing plot.

As Catalyst stated, there was a massive earthquake that was between all 3 worlds when Yhwach tried to combine them and there was a massively destroyed area in the World of the Living because of that. As well as the fact Ichigo was going to be the Soul King regardless if he killed Yhwach or not and he was only skipped because Yhwach absorbed the Soul King's power after that so Ichigo is definitely within the Soul King's tier among other things.

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