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In order to preserve their freedom to have 30 shots instead of seven, and to keep hard limits on government tyranny, the gun nuts are ready to hand over to government the power to incarcerate, against their will, millions of Americans who, as of yet, have committed no crime whatsoever.

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coyote-1 wrote:In order to preserve their freedom to have 30 shots instead of seven, and to keep hard limits on government tyranny, the gun nuts are ready to hand over to government the power to incarcerate, against their will, millions of Americans who, as of yet, have committed no crime whatsoever.

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Who pray tell would be incarcerated? We need these people in a national registry so they can't buy guns or have access to them.Is that locking them up or are you practicing Liberal Lying 101...again?

coyote-1 wrote:In order to preserve their freedom to have 30 shots instead of seven, and to keep hard limits on government tyranny, the gun nuts are ready to hand over to government the power to incarcerate, against their will, millions of Americans who, as of yet, have committed no crime whatsoever.

coyote-1 wrote:In order to preserve their freedom to have 30 shots instead of seven, and to keep hard limits on government tyranny, the gun nuts are ready to hand over to government the power to incarcerate, against their will, millions of Americans who, as of yet, have committed no crime whatsoever.

The NRA must be really serious about mental health considering they hired a nutcase to be their spokesperson - one assumes this was a brilliant move to demonstrate to the public the sheer magnitude of the problem.

â€œIf Iâ€™m not for myself who will be for me? But if I am only for myself, what am I?â€ - Hillel

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Do a bit of research and you can plainly see that a system is already in place to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally disabled. It just doesn't get used. It's kinda like every other piece of gun legislation.Take that guy in Az. frinstance. He got diagnosed and the Dr. notified authorities of him being a danger. Ball got dropped, nothing got done, people got killed.

<blockquote> Do a bit of research and you can plainly see that a system is already in place to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally disabled. It just doesn't get used. It's kinda like every other piece of gun legislation.Take that guy in Az. frinstance. He got diagnosed and the Dr. notified authorities of him being a danger. Ball got dropped, nothing got done, people got killed.</blockquote>

Nope. In order to have your ability to pass a background check removed, a person needs to be "adjudicated" mentally I'll, by a court. Simply having a mental health diagnosis is not a bar against buying a gun.

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BA.Barcolounger wrote:<blockquote> Do a bit of research and you can plainly see that a system is already in place to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally disabled. It just doesn't get used. It's kinda like every other piece of gun legislation.Take that guy in Az. frinstance. He got diagnosed and the Dr. notified authorities of him being a danger. Ball got dropped, nothing got done, people got killed.</blockquote>

Nope. In order to have your ability to pass a background check removed, a person needs to be "adjudicated" mentally I'll, by a court. Simply having a mental health diagnosis is not a bar against buying a gun.

And I disagree with this....especially when it comes to threats of violence or suicide.

BA.Barcolounger wrote:<blockquote> Do a bit of research and you can plainly see that a system is already in place to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally disabled. It just doesn't get used. It's kinda like every other piece of gun legislation.Take that guy in Az. frinstance. He got diagnosed and the Dr. notified authorities of him being a danger. Ball got dropped, nothing got done, people got killed.</blockquote>

Nope. In order to have your ability to pass a background check removed, a person needs to be "adjudicated" mentally I'll, by a court. Simply having a mental health diagnosis is not a bar against buying a gun.

Nope, you're wrong. Like I said, do a bit of research. I've been harping on this during my whole tenure @ HCPP. Enforce the laws we have instead of making new ones that will not get enforced

These two incidents and others involving gun purchases by individuals with mental problems are a measure of structural flaws in NICS, the FBI's National Instant Background Check System, which was set up to keep guns from falling into the hands of criminals, noncitizens, drug users or the mentally ill.