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Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread

All I really want from Roy is just to hit some of the point blank tips and hooks. That's what drives me nuts. I don't need him to be a primary offensive option. But he gets a good 5 or 6 four footers a night. Put that with the D and I'll take it.

Good start for BHans. Great night for George. Hey, it is Cleveland, but I guess at this point a win is a win. Philly game will be a very interesting barometer. Paging Gerald Green's shot. Paging Gerald Green's shot.

Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread

Starters are the best defensive unit. Bench is still a sieve on defense for the most part...especially if they are all on the court together.

Some of them are, Gerald Green is actually a pretty good one on one defender, he just loses his man sometimes. He is getting better though. Mahinmi is very solid on D and Sam Young is very solid as well. DJ Augustine was the biggest culprit on defense, but now that he is getting DNP-CDs the bench's overall defense will be much better. Ben is a huge upgrade on the defensive end.

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- I think you have to give Roy Hibbert credit, he makes a huge impact with his defense. He doesn't let his poor offensive performances get him down. Can you imagine if Jermaine O'Neal went through a slump of this proportion?

I won't.Yes he's magnificent on D and that's why he still saves face .But he's so bad on the other end that it's close to ridiculous.Tonight he couldn't get a basket even if he was all by himself under the rim.It's not a slump any more.Slump would be something for 4-5 games.And lol about Jermain O'Neal.He wouldn't be at that situation cause he was twice the player Hibbert is on offense.

Good comeback.Positives from the game are certainly Ben Hansbrough who has probably offered the same DJ did so far,PG continues to boss games lately and that's very encouraging.West was once again really good with some neat passes too.Roy and Gerald Green should have a Z- each.The former just for his offense and the latter for his overall game.

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I won't.Yes he's magnificent on D and that's why he still saves face .But he's so bad on the other end that it's close to ridiculous.Tonight he couldn't get a basket even if he was all by himself under the rim.It's not a slump any more.Slump would be something for 4-5 games.And lol about Jermain O'Neal.He wouldn't be at that situation cause he was twice the player Hibbert is on offense.
Good comeback.Positives from the game are certainly Ben Hansbrough who has probably offered the same DJ did so far,PG continues to boss games lately and that's very encouraging.West was once again really good with some neat passes too.Roy and Gerald Green should have a Z- each.The first just for his offense and the other one for his overall game.

Yeah, Jermaine was the better player. My point being that a lot of players let their performance on the offensive end effect their performance on defense and Hibbert isn't doing that. Jermaine had to have a thousand touches a game to be effective.

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Yeah, Jermaine was the better player. My point being that a lot of players let their performance on the offensive end effect their performance on defense and Hibbert isn't doing that. Jermaine had to have a thousand touches a game to be effective.

I got what you mean, rock but I'm telling you that it would affect him for not so long because really good players will always find ways to score.Jermain was more than solid on both ends.

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Don't **** with little brother, says Tyler Hansbrough!

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Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread

- I think you have to give Roy Hibbert credit, he makes a huge impact with his defense. He doesn't let his poor offensive performances get him down. Can you imagine if Jermaine O'Neal went through a slump of this proportion?

No. I can't imagine Jermaine O'Neal going through a slump like this. That's because he never went through a slump like this one. He didn't shoot the ball that well his last couple of years because he was playing on two bad knees and a bad shoulder but he never struggled to score like Roy is this year.

With that said, Roy's defense has been fantastic. His offense has been rather Rodman-esque.

Cool tweet about Paul George from Micheal Grady after the game:

@Michael Grady With the way Paul George has played lately, it's safe to say he's in the process of fighting Agent Smith in the subway. Starting 2 believe...

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I understand why Tyler reacted that way....but if you watch the replay...it was Tyler's reaching and grabbing for the ball that prompted Thompson to react by swinging his elbows...that led to the accidental elbow to Ben's neck.

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This is David West, he is the Honey Badger, West just doesn't give a *****....he's pretty bad *ss cuz he has no regard for any other Player or Team whatsoever.

I didn't realize the number of shots taken was so close between those guys. Fascinating. Anyway, that totals out to 183-496, or 36.8%. Taking DJ out of the lineup move the numbers to 162-417, or 38.8%.

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Re: Pacers/Cavaliers Postgame Thread

Bench average FG% per game. Of course Ben hasn't had enough attempts to include him but this is really bad. With Roy looking like he has regressed to high school days, it just shows that PGeorge, Hill and West MUST have solid games for this team to win.