Microsoft Is Paying Nokia "Hundreds Of Millions Of Dollars" To Go With Windowshttp://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-is-paying-nokia-hundreds-of-millions-of-dollars-to-go-with-windows-2011-2/comments
en-usWed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500Tue, 03 Mar 2015 14:39:16 -0500Pascal-Emmanuel Gobryhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4d5c1b69ccd1d56903490000AndrewOneDegreeWed, 16 Feb 2011 13:46:01 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4d5c1b69ccd1d56903490000
I often wonder when I read comments on posts of these why there are not so many more companies in tech that kick ass...oh thats right, because it is plain to see that 90% of the comments here are not actually related to hard nose business facts...
The point is that Nokia is still the biggest player in the mobile world fact. They may no longer be the biggest player in smart phones, but they have the muscle and distribution capabilities to effectively knock out great smart phones and deliver them at a fraction of the cost of the competition across the world. The problem they have had is that their OS just isnt popular, its not good enough to compete in the smart phone market, so they needed a new OS. I know people witter on about Android and MeeGoo etc and these are better options, but they arent. There are so many Android handsets out there, and to be frank all of them feel like clunky copies of the iPhone. Everyone I know who has had an Android complains about it, most of which switch to the iPhone...So where does that leave Nokia? Looking to get into bed with the only other real option in terms of software development capabilities and that is MS. Throw in their marketing cash and you could be onto a winner...
It makes brilliant sense for this deal, it means Nokia with MS can have windows mobile phones available everywhere around the world at really attractive prices. Delivering a highly competative OS on hardware that easily competes with the iPhone and beats Android (I personally prefer the Win Mob 7 OS). Its a big advantage for getting into the smart phone market place, and I think one that we will see lead to Nokia regaining its 50% market share!
Business factshttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4d598a7b4bd7c8702d0a0000Gordon NeueMon, 14 Feb 2011 15:03:07 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4d598a7b4bd7c8702d0a0000
You are right, my comment is a bit "inappreciative". Being dismissive towards MSFT actually wasn't my intention. I merely wanted to point out, that the lack of success in your platform is probably rooted an ugly adverse selection dynamic in your user group.
The fact that i couldn't get the tone right shows what a big fanboy i have myself become(scary!). Personally, I am pretty dissapointed that Nokia is defecting from the open source platforms. It's sad, but what can i do.
Congratulations to you Microsofties, you guys just scored in nerds football!
Luckily, the game is not over. ;-)http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4d59533149e2ae553c090000disconnected peopleMon, 14 Feb 2011 11:07:13 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4d59533149e2ae553c090000
Nokia sells status symbols and MS is trying to make up for their lack of sex appeal with this arrangement.We are going to do the heavy lifting and push their platform. It is a catastrophe for nokia. We have just told millions of symbian users to go to hell.I can barely express how i feel about this.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4d570737ccd1d53a061a0000TangoSat, 12 Feb 2011 17:18:31 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4d570737ccd1d53a061a0000
Yeah, i also wouldn't want to have sucj a bad OS as Wondows and Microsoft would have to pay a lot to me to even use it. Even the desktop edition is quite bad, and it is even a nigger disaster on mobile front. Nokia directors realy didn't think at all when they let Elop do this stupid sabotage of company. Nokia had such a great potential with MeeGo and then they get tricked into this distater that is Windows. Looks like no one at Nokia cares about their company anymore.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4d56c439ccd1d5ed7c1800002 looser don't make 1 winner Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:32:41 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4d56c439ccd1d5ed7c180000
Nokia is like MSFT, they both used to be the market leaders, they both lost their edge and became looser.
Uniting them will make only a colossal looser.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4d5683eecadcbbc27a010000american idiotSat, 12 Feb 2011 07:58:22 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4d5683eecadcbbc27a010000
it's surprising how idiotic you people can turn considering you consumed msft products (or pirated windows software to be precise) for years. now because google, apple and other tech companies are progressing quickly you think you can be inappreciative of microsoft? you stupid idiots, if it wasn't for the back-then-monopolitan msft, you wouldn't now what a computer is. go and use netbooks and the for-dump-people google chrome instead, or better yet get an ipad and pay hundres/thousands to apple.
for msft with their wp7, a nokia deal is a must-do tactic if they want to catch up with the big two. and just wait until facebook implements bing as their default web search on full scale.and facebook will if not only to compete with google. google's android might be good but not good enough. and search being a feature and nothing else, google is yet to change their underpants several times when they start seeing their market share drop by the minute. remember, enemy of my enemy is my friend. all the big animals are set to compete against google primarily with many underestimating msft. this could be msft's advantage in creating alliances as it's already happening.
and those few pathethics like you will be only more surprised when msft will reappear at the top again. but they'll have to reinvent to get there.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4d563dd9ccd1d59963040000chilled to the boneSat, 12 Feb 2011 02:59:21 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4d563dd9ccd1d59963040000
this is not 2003 when Nokia had the an arsenal of phones from the low end to the high end. Now any Android or an Iphone can pick the flesh from the bones off of any Nokia phone. Nokia's business model has been cracked!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4d563406ccd1d5c160260000Krasimir KoichevSat, 12 Feb 2011 02:17:26 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4d563406ccd1d5c160260000
Nokia has been on a downward spiral for quite some time. That's like Yahoo taking advertising from adult sites, you know it's not a good sign.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4d5604f3ccd1d53f5b130000domeFri, 11 Feb 2011 22:56:35 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4d5604f3ccd1d53f5b130000
Sounds like when Microsoft used to pay Best Buy millions a few years ago but then suddenly stopped paying them, resulting in some resulting back at Best Buy HQ ;)http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4d55d08949e2ae6f57080000KenCFri, 11 Feb 2011 19:12:57 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4d55d08949e2ae6f57080000
"Buried in a long Times story about how Nokia, Microsoft and HP are desperately trying to catch up with Google and Apple, they report that both Google and Microsoft offered Nokia "hundreds of millions of dollars" in "engineering assistance and marketing support" to get them to switch."
In an interview I read with the Nokia CFO, he stated clearly that Microsoft would get royalties, but that Nokia would get significant marketing support, ie cash.
Since we have read that the Verizon Bing deal was worth $500M to Microsoft, imagine how much getting Bing on all those Nokia handsets must be worth. Also, Microsoft already uses Nokia's Navteq maps for Bing, which they pay for, and likely will pay more for, given tighter integration thru Microsoft's line.
Anyhow, it's pretty clear that both companies are putting all their considerable resources behind this, because they can't fail. If Nokia fails, they're gone. If Microsoft fails, their future in mobile is done, and they look more and more like a utility. So, it doesn't really matter how much Microsoft is paying Nokia, they will pay as much as it takes.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4d559be1ccd1d5504c0d0000ChristineGordonFri, 11 Feb 2011 15:28:17 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4d559be1ccd1d5504c0d0000
Interesting partnership. Does anybody here thinks it can compete with Apple?
Christine,
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It's not just the enabling functionality, with which you are selling operating systems nowadays; you are selling also a lot of fashion.
Nokia, why do you want to be associated with Microsoft? Microsoft has a giant branding problem. Apple has picked out all the cosmopolitan, high self esteem people from Microsofts user base. Linux has picked out all the technically able people from their user base. Who wants to be associated with the rest?
If Microsoft were a clothing manufacturer, which brand would it be? Walmart apparel?
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This is further evidence of MSFT's desperation. It is paying to provide life support for Nokia. Nothing shows MSFT's desperate situation in handsets more than this.
Of course, this gives short term cover to Ballmer's rancid failure in the handset space ("He did something!") and allows him to winter over for yet another year.
More shareholder wealth destruction...