heat added, this is a very good price for me to start planning a build. i will definitely pre-order this if i dont find any cheaper elsewhere

Original Poster10th Feb

BigP50000

heat added, this is a very good price for me to start planning a build. i … heat added, this is a very good price for me to start planning a build. i will definitely pre-order this if i dont find any cheaper elsewhere

Im in a process of a build ATM and been looking at this as I dont really plan to Overclock. Its the cheapest I have seen so far

10th Feb

wait for ryzen

10th Feb

well i love my i5's, got a i5 760,2400s,2400,3570 and 4570...i also wanted a E5-2609 V2 but thought nah i have enough processors even a fx 6300 and a 8320 ...too much time spending money on cpu's but not enough time putting them to good use.

10th Feb

intel crap. they're already releasing a successor to krappy lake in 2H 2017. cuz Ryzen has them scared. another rebrand with a factory overclock probably.

better to wait for ryzen than buy one of these old intel chips. a ryzen chip will probably be better value at this price.

Edited by: "plath" 10th Feb

10th Feb

plath

intel crap. they're already releasing a successor to krappy lake in 2H … intel crap. they're already releasing a successor to krappy lake in 2H 2017. cuz Ryzen has them scared. another rebrand with a factory overclock probably.better to wait for ryzen than buy one of these old intel chips. a ryzen chip will probably be better value at this price.

"In the UK we have a screenshot of a listing of Ryzen CPUs from trade seller Ingram Micro. These listed processors seem to have been taken down, but luckily VideoCardz took a snap. You can see the top end 4GHz AMD Ryzen 7 1800X was listed at GBP £365, the Ryzen 7 1700X at £283, and the Ryzen 7 1700 at £235. These are ex-VAT prices so you have to add 20 per cent, unfortunately. That makes the AMD Ryzen 7 1800X £438 by my calculations. In the listings WOF seems to mean 'without fan'.

you going to be spending £438 on their fastest processor (if the price is right when it finally releases) against an i7 7700k which is selling for £339.21? really?

10th Feb

BigP50000

my point is "In the UK we have a screenshot of a listing of Ryzen CPUs … my point is "In the UK we have a screenshot of a listing of Ryzen CPUs from trade seller Ingram Micro. These listed processors seem to have been taken down, but luckily VideoCardz took a snap. You can see the top end 4GHz AMD Ryzen 7 1800X was listed at GBP £365, the Ryzen 7 1700X at £283, and the Ryzen 7 1700 at £235. These are ex-VAT prices so you have to add 20 per cent, unfortunately. That makes the AMD Ryzen 7 1800X £438 by my calculations. In the listings WOF seems to mean 'without fan'.you going to be spending £438 on their fastest processor (if the price is right when it finally releases) against an i7 7700k which is selling for £339.21? really?

we don't know which AMD chips will be equivalent to which intel's chips.

AMD compare the highest end ryzen chips with the broadwell e i7 6900k which is around £1k. but who knows until they've been released and benchmarked independently.

we don't know the pricing of all the SKUs. we don't really know anything at this point, except that intel are scared.

Edited by: "plath" 10th Feb

Original Poster10th Feb

BigP50000

my point is "In the UK we have a screenshot of a listing of Ryzen CPUs … my point is "In the UK we have a screenshot of a listing of Ryzen CPUs from trade seller Ingram Micro. These listed processors seem to have been taken down, but luckily VideoCardz took a snap. You can see the top end 4GHz AMD Ryzen 7 1800X was listed at GBP £365, the Ryzen 7 1700X at £283, and the Ryzen 7 1700 at £235. These are ex-VAT prices so you have to add 20 per cent, unfortunately. That makes the AMD Ryzen 7 1800X £438 by my calculations. In the listings WOF seems to mean 'without fan'.you going to be spending £438 on their fastest processor (if the price is right when it finally releases) against an i7 7700k which is selling for £339.21? really?

Spot on Sir

10th Feb

Plus Intel have Xeon processors which are pricey but wow 12 cores of extreme performance right there...not only for servers but most game enthusiasts use it to for high end gaming

10th Feb

BigP50000

my point is "In the UK we have a screenshot of a listing of Ryzen CPUs … my point is "In the UK we have a screenshot of a listing of Ryzen CPUs from trade seller Ingram Micro. These listed processors seem to have been taken down, but luckily VideoCardz took a snap. You can see the top end 4GHz AMD Ryzen 7 1800X was listed at GBP £365, the Ryzen 7 1700X at £283, and the Ryzen 7 1700 at £235. These are ex-VAT prices so you have to add 20 per cent, unfortunately. That makes the AMD Ryzen 7 1800X £438 by my calculations. In the listings WOF seems to mean 'without fan'.you going to be spending £438 on their fastest processor (if the price is right when it finally releases) against an i7 7700k which is selling for £339.21? really?

Wrong i7.Try 50% of the cost of 6900k.

10th Feb

BigP50000

Plus Intel have Xeon processors which are pricey but wow 12 cores of … Plus Intel have Xeon processors which are pricey but wow 12 cores of extreme performance right there...not only for servers but most game enthusiasts use it to for high end gaming

... which xeons do they use?

10th Feb

andrewdb

... which xeons do they use?

well something like a E5-2698 v3 16 cores

Edited by: "BigP50000" 10th Feb

10th Feb

BigP50000

my point is "In the UK we have a screenshot of a listing of Ryzen CPUs … my point is "In the UK we have a screenshot of a listing of Ryzen CPUs from trade seller Ingram Micro. These listed processors seem to have been taken down, but luckily VideoCardz took a snap. You can see the top end 4GHz AMD Ryzen 7 1800X was listed at GBP £365, the Ryzen 7 1700X at £283, and the Ryzen 7 1700 at £235. These are ex-VAT prices so you have to add 20 per cent, unfortunately. That makes the AMD Ryzen 7 1800X £438 by my calculations. In the listings WOF seems to mean 'without fan'.you going to be spending £438 on their fastest processor (if the price is right when it finally releases) against an i7 7700k which is selling for £339.21? really?

1700X is the 7700K/6800k competitor at the same price after adding vat.hexus.net/tec…ed/

Plus Intel have Xeon processors which are pricey but wow 12 cores of … Plus Intel have Xeon processors which are pricey but wow 12 cores of extreme performance right there...not only for servers but most game enthusiasts use it to for high end gaming

Really?Guess some people have money to burn and too little sense then (most expensive = best?), or are ill-informed.Anyway, current max Xeon core count is 28 plus HT (28C/56T). That's the Xeon Platinum 8180 for which I can't find the price, but the 24C/48T Xeon E7-8894 v4 lists at $8,898. I'm sure there are workloads where this might be justified, but gaming is not one of them as the base speed of the latter is 2.4GHz with a turbo of 3.4GHz. Since these expensive CPUs only make sense if you have well-threaded workload, or more likely a large number of hungry VMs in a server, they most likely seldom hit their turbo speed.So for most games (even something heavily optimised for the current consoles and able to scale to 8 threads), most of the time you'd have the majority of the CPU sitting idle.

10th Feb

BigP50000

well something like a E5-2698 v3 16 cores

Haswell-E 16C/32T running at 2.4GHz and costing $3,326 is a very very poor investment for gaming. Most game would have 1-8 cores loaded, 15-16 cores idle, and be crying out for higher frequencies with such a processor.I mean those Xeons are great processors for some (very few) loads, but like the Zen server chip with 32 cores, or a POWER8 CPU with 12C/96T they are not very useful for must users.

10th Feb

Got this with 11% with Flubit

10th Feb

Has been around this price for a while - I ordered one for the PC build I finished last night. Reason I went for the 7500 was that I'm running a very small ITX build (albeit with a GTX 1070) and I really don't want to kick out a lot of heat in a small case. That's even more important now that I've found out that my AR06 CPU cooler doesn't fit on my Asrock motherboard.

10th Feb

Themadcow

Has been around this price for a while - I ordered one for the PC build I … Has been around this price for a while - I ordered one for the PC build I finished last night. Reason I went for the 7500 was that I'm running a very small ITX build (albeit with a GTX 1070) and I really don't want to kick out a lot of heat in a small case. That's even more important now that I've found out that my AR06 CPU cooler doesn't fit on my Asrock motherboard.

cooler doesnt fit? damn and thats only 92mm lol i was just about to say use a Scythe Big Shuriken 2 CPU cooler but that one is even more a 120mm

10th Feb

BigP50000

cooler doesnt fit? damn and thats only 92mm lol i was just about to say … cooler doesnt fit? damn and thats only 92mm lol i was just about to say use a Scythe Big Shuriken 2 CPU cooler but that one is even more a 120mm

Its not the height that's the problem - the geniuses at Asrock decided to put transistors too close to the CPU slot on the mobo - so wider cooling fans can't sit properly on top. I've ended up having to use the stock fan

I can't see that the 7500 really needs anything more than the stock fan, but if I upgrade to a 7600k at any point then I'll have to find an alternative.

Scared? More like unchallenged. I would love Ryzen to shake up the market and get things moving again, but behind closed doors Intel will have an answer to anything AMD decides to throw at them. Bring on the benchmarks

10th Feb

People keep seemingly overlooking the fact RyZen gets you double the cores and double the threads. Any application that makes good use of HT will benefit massively.

Buying Intel ahead of the launch is madness.

10th Feb

Hasnaiin

wait for ryzen

If I had a £1 every time I heard this...

10th Feb

r3dhotukdeals

If I had a £1 every time I heard this...

You could buy a new processor? I'd wait for Ryzen though.

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10th Feb

r3dhotukdeals

If I had a £1 every time I heard this...

less than 3 weeks to go.

10th Feb

Gkains

Haswell-E 16C/32T running at 2.4GHz and costing $3,326 is a very very … Haswell-E 16C/32T running at 2.4GHz and costing $3,326 is a very very poor investment for gaming. Most game would have 1-8 cores loaded, 15-16 cores idle, and be crying out for higher frequencies with such a processor.I mean those Xeons are great processors for some (very few) loads, but like the Zen server chip with 32 cores, or a POWER8 CPU with 12C/96T they are not very useful for must users.

You do actually need more cores than your fave game needs as it keeps the system responsive. so if your fav game needs quad core - go for a 6core. Just remember the os needs space to compute too .

10th Feb

I personally would hold off building a new box till the ryzen benchmarks are out.

10th Feb

MBeeching

Scared? More like unchallenged. I would love Ryzen to shake up the … Scared? More like unchallenged. I would love Ryzen to shake up the market and get things moving again, but behind closed doors Intel will have an answer to anything AMD decides to throw at them. Bring on the benchmarks

Intel has no answer to ryzen .. they could reduce the 10core i7 and or produce a 12 core version. but a 12 core version would be at least a year away

10th Feb

Ryzen is out in a few weeks so unless you're committed to intel build then seriously wait a few weeks to build.

10th Feb

taras

Intel has no answer to ryzen .. they could reduce the 10core i7 and or … Intel has no answer to ryzen .. they could reduce the 10core i7 and or produce a 12 core version. but a 12 core version would be at least a year away

More like18 months and most likely more than expensive Ryzen.

10th Feb

fat.tony

I've ordered!

Be prepared to cry next few weeks when you see the Ryzen benchmarks and price.

Edited by: "hatton420" 10th Feb

10th Feb

The_Hoff

People keep seemingly overlooking the fact RyZen gets you double the … People keep seemingly overlooking the fact RyZen gets you double the cores and double the threads. Any application that makes good use of HT will benefit massively.Buying Intel ahead of the launch is madness.

No double the cores and four times the threads over this i5. If you use heavily threaded programs the extra £95 for the R7 1700 is likely to be money well spent.

Pricing and performance for the 4 core 8 thread models will be where it's won or lost.

10th Feb

Wait, this is the locked non-K i5 and it's £185.99?!

I know Intel are expensive but this is insane. I got my i5 4670k for £150 at the time. Ridiculous.

10th Feb

GAVINLEWISHUKD

No double the cores and four times the threads over this i5. If you use … No double the cores and four times the threads over this i5. If you use heavily threaded programs the extra £95 for the R7 1700 is likely to be money well spent.Pricing and performance for the 4 core 8 thread models will be where it's won or lost.

Yeah sorry for confusion.

I was talking about the i7/R7 comparisons as people appear to be misunderstanding the proposition.

The Ryzen chips also being unlocked and with low TDP should OC very well.

I'm expecting even the R5 line to hit all but the very top Intel chips hard.

Edited by: "The_Hoff" 11th Feb

10th Feb

The_Hoff

People keep seemingly overlooking the fact RyZen gets you double the … People keep seemingly overlooking the fact RyZen gets you double the cores and double the threads. Any application that makes good use of HT will benefit massively.Buying Intel ahead of the launch is madness.

Waiting probably makes sense as prices will drop.

But which application you run on a desktop makes good use of 8 cores or more - other than the occasional video encode/transcode? Of course I'd like to have 8 cores or 16, or 128, but I seriously doubt I'd put any load on more than 2-4 cores regularly.

11th Feb

jomay

Waiting probably makes sense as prices will drop.But which application … Waiting probably makes sense as prices will drop.But which application you run on a desktop makes good use of 8 cores or more - other than the occasional video encode/transcode? Of course I'd like to have 8 cores or 16, or 128, but I seriously doubt I'd put any load on more than 2-4 cores regularly.

If you can achieve all of this and (bare in mind that multi threading will become more and more commonplace) use less power doing so, why wouldn't you? You also can Of your processor to extract a little more life from it to boot.

Of course everyone has their own use case but for a power user or PC enthusiast for me (pending some benchmarks) AM4 is almost certainly my next build.

11th Feb

Dear hduk'ers. We're all here because we have something in common. We're a bunch if tight asses

£185 for this Skylake cpu is far too much for what it is. if you're not going to do to many intensive activities like video encoding, then something like the G4560 for £60 odd quid should do you fine. Save yourself 125 notes.

Sometimes we have an itch to scratch, and however illogical that decision is, we gotz to have it! Latest iphone.. har har.

Now if you were going to buy a i7 4770 for around this amount, I could understand it much more.

Wouldn't you much rather have a G4560 with a 1050ti or just a i5 7500 for similarish monies?.