A BMW factory driver just clocked in a 7:55 Nurburgring lap time in the F10 M5. This makes the car 4 seconds faster around the ring than the CTS-V and 1 second faster than the Panamera Turbo, the only other 2 production sedans under the 8 minute mark. So, the F10 M5 is the new king of the ring for now until Porsche takes the time away from BMW with the Panamera Turbo S. What is also interesting is that the F10 M5 was faster by 10 seconds than the manual E92 M3 but slower than the E46 M3 CSL.

Everyone says that that new safety regulations are causing cars to get heavier. I also think it has something to with how manufacturers have to be able to brag about interior space and stuff like that...you will see a Lexus commercial that says "More leg room than a BMW" or "More trunk space than a Cadillac". The fact is that enthusiasts that want smaller better handling cars really make up a small population of car buyers. People love 0 - 60 times but they also love to brag about having more trunk space. JMO

True but I think the 5 series is bigger than the E class. It's not just about bragging about the extra space...it's actually, you know, useful. Nobody even fights for the front seat in our F10 any more, I'm 6'3" and I have room to spare in the back and we haven't come close to filling its trunk yet.

...so I guess my point is I wish it was smaller and better to drive to me, the E60 was the perfect size.

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True but I think the 5 series is bigger than the E class. It's not just about bragging about the extra space...it's actually, you know, useful. Nobody even fights for the front seat in our F10 any more, I'm 6'3" and I have room to spare in the back and we haven't come close to filling its trunk yet.

...so I guess my point is I wish it was smaller and better to drive to me, the E60 was the perfect size.

I'll check the dimensions with the E but I doubt the E is much if any smaller. The 5 has pretty much always been lighter than the E.

The purpose of CSL is to be quick, and running Pilot Sport Cups on wet track would be very slow... Or are you saying that it is not intended to be run on wet at all? Then, I guess, it should not have wipers either.