I'm a Redskins fan and have been for quite some time, but I've had it up to here ↑ with the RGIII knee saga. He blew out his knee, modern medicine is awesome, and he'll get better. What more needs to be said? Shall we excoriate Shanny some more? Gripe about the Fedex Field turf some more? If only there were something else going on in the NFL right now that ESPN could talk about.

joseelsegundo:I'm a Redskins fan and have been for quite some time, but I've had it up to here ↑ with the RGIII knee saga. He blew out his knee, modern medicine is awesome, and he'll get better. What more needs to be said? Shall we excoriate Shanny some more? Gripe about the Fedex Field turf some more? If only there were something else going on in the NFL right now that ESPN could talk about.

I am suprised. We 17 days from the Pro Bowl and we haven't heard a peep about it. Usually ESPN starts the pregame show now...

joseelsegundo:I'm a Redskins fan and have been for quite some time, but I've had it up to here ↑ with the RGIII knee saga. He blew out his knee, modern medicine is awesome, and he'll get better. What more needs to be said? Shall we excoriate Shanny some more? Gripe about the Fedex Field turf some more? If only there were something else going on in the NFL right now that ESPN could talk about.

Go submit stuff. The modmins would probably be happy to see other stuff, as long as it's interesting. I got a Texans/Pats greenlight, and an Eagles greenlight the other day.

Treygreen13:joseelsegundo: I'm a Redskins fan and have been for quite some time, but I've had it up to here ↑ with the RGIII knee saga. He blew out his knee, modern medicine is awesome, and he'll get better. What more needs to be said? Shall we excoriate Shanny some more? Gripe about the Fedex Field turf some more? If only there were something else going on in the NFL right now that ESPN could talk about.

Go submit stuff. The modmins would probably be happy to see other stuff, as long as it's interesting. I got a Texans/Pats greenlight, and an Eagles greenlight the other day.

Well I was directing that more to the media than Fark. There's enough snark and humor on Fark to make it palatable. It seems to me that the legs on this story are growing tired but the media is trying to wring out every drop (what else is new).

About submission, it's still early in the year -- I don't want to use up my one green/year limit :P

joseelsegundo:I'm a Redskins fan and have been for quite some time, but I've had it up to here ↑ with the RGIII knee saga. He blew out his knee, modern medicine is awesome, and he'll get better. What more needs to be said? Shall we excoriate Shanny some more? Gripe about the Fedex Field turf some more? If only there were something else going on in the NFL right now that ESPN could talk about.

You're a Redskin fan. You're going to be hearing and talking about it for the next 9-12 months at the least. Maybe you can let it go, but most of your friends and family that are also Redskin fans won't be able to. Let alone those folks on sports talk radio. It comes with the territory of being a Redskins fan.

I do enjoy that the Washington baseball and football seasons were ended in DC by wild-card teams, with a 24-year-old rookie delivering the winning runs in baseball and No. 24 being escorted into the end zone by a 24-year-old rookie for the winning TD in football.

It makes it funnier because the baseball team spent the whole time discussing the coaching decision of refusing to play someone who was healthy because he might get injured, while the football team will spend their offseason discussing the coaching decision of continuing to play someone who was clearly injured.

Drunk Astronaut:So is the Tebow Era officially over now at the Four Letter Network?

Give it a few weeks. I'm sure they'll write a new article specifically pointing out how little they've been talking about Tebow lately. Just like how they wrote an article that they were going to stop.

SurfaceTension:joseelsegundo: I'm a Redskins fan and have been for quite some time, but I've had it up to here ↑ with the RGIII knee saga. He blew out his knee, modern medicine is awesome, and he'll get better. What more needs to be said? Shall we excoriate Shanny some more? Gripe about the Fedex Field turf some more? If only there were something else going on in the NFL right now that ESPN could talk about.

You're a Redskin fan. You're going to be hearing and talking about it for the next 9-12 months at the least. Maybe you can let it go, but most of your friends and family that are also Redskin fans won't be able to. Let alone those folks on sports talk radio. It comes with the territory of being a Redskins fan.

I live in Tampa now, so I am spared the sports talk radio grinder. Of course I have to deal with the Buccaneers media saturation now. Thankfully now that they are done there is very little in the papers about it.

Of course I still have ties to the DC area, so I still get the conversations with friends up there.Those that haven't switched allegiance to the Ravens, that is...

IAmRight:It makes it funnier because the baseball team spent the whole time discussing the coaching decision of refusing to play someone who was healthy because he might get injured, while the football team will spend their offseason discussing the coaching decision of continuing to play someone who was clearly injured.

That is an awesome point, and hilarious. Too bad it will take 10 years to see which one continues to perform at elite levels and see which coach/manager was the smarter one.

Yep, bench Strasburg to protect him from injury, people called for his head. Shanny DOESN'T bench RGIII and people called for his head.

/Yeah it wasn't the same thing exactly//But it shows people will itch and moan either way/If RGIII was benched at the half and the Skins blew their lead with Cousins at the helm instead of Robert, there would be just as much negative press

my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food:If RGIII was benched at the half and the Skins blew their lead with Cousins at the helm instead of Robert, there would be just as much negative press

This is what people actually believe, and it's laughable.

Number of people that would have criticized anyone if you had DR. JAMES ANDREWS declare that RGIII had incurred further damage to the knee and had ordered him to sit out: 0. It would've been viewed as an unfortunate break, but good on the team for protecting their franchise player.

But hey, it's not like you had the nation/world's foremost expert in knee health and surgery on your sideline or anything to basically guarantee you're bulletproof.

/the problem is that they ignored the world's foremost expert in knee health because "he really wanted to play" and "he's the starter"

It's Me Bender:ISO15693: The fact that everyone involved has such a positive outlook on his full recovery

The Redskins organization and their fans always have retard levels of optimism.

You can't buy that sort of fan support.

And every other team in the league wishes it had that sort of support :)

I only lived in DC until 1979, and I was 12 when I moved then to San Jose. Over time, the SF Giants replaced the Orioles, the SJ Sharks replaced the Capitals, the Warriors replaced the Bullets. But there is no way in heck the Redskins are ever going to be replaced by anyone, in this fan's pantheon of sports teams.

In 1999 I was bicycling down the coast, from canada to SF, and on an extremely cold rainy day in late Fall, I slid and fell off the road into a deep puddle. Freezing, and drenched, I managed to pedal to a small rural shop... I needed a dry tshirt, and all they had were cheap Dallas Cowboy tshirts.

I decided to just stay freezing and soaked for another 20 miles, rather than put on a cowboys tshirt, even inside-out.

Treygreen13:joseelsegundo: I'm a Redskins fan and have been for quite some time, but I've had it up to here ↑ with the RGIII knee saga. He blew out his knee, modern medicine is awesome, and he'll get better. What more needs to be said? Shall we excoriate Shanny some more? Gripe about the Fedex Field turf some more? If only there were something else going on in the NFL right now that ESPN could talk about.

Go submit stuff. The modmins would probably be happy to see other stuff, as long as it's interesting. I got a Texans/Pats greenlight, and an Eagles greenlight the other day.

Being in the DC area, I'm guessing Joseelsgundo is refering to the wall. to. f'in. wall. coverage of this in the DC media.

IAmRight:my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: If RGIII was benched at the half and the Skins blew their lead with Cousins at the helm instead of Robert, there would be just as much negative press

This is what people actually believe, and it's laughable.

Number of people that would have criticized anyone if you had DR. JAMES ANDREWS declare that RGIII had incurred further damage to the knee and had ordered him to sit out: 0. It would've been viewed as an unfortunate break, but good on the team for protecting their franchise player.

But hey, it's not like you had the nation/world's foremost expert in knee health and surgery on your sideline or anything to basically guarantee you're bulletproof.

/the problem is that they ignored the world's foremost expert in knee health because "he really wanted to play" and "he's the starter"

But that is just it, with Strasburg they had experts that agreed with Rizzo, they had announced it MONTHS ahead of time, they were following through with a clearly laid plan, and then when the Nats made the playoffs, it became WHAR STRABURG WHAR, and when we eventually lost, a large number of people blamed just that.

So if you think people wouldn't be hemming and hawing just because the celebrity knee Dr. du jour was in agreement, I've got a bridge to sell ya.

And for the record, I am not defending Shanahan, I wish they HAD sat RGIII at the half in hindsight. I had knots in my stomach about how he was playing when watching it live pre-injury. You could tell OBVIOUSLY on his rollout/bootleg to the left when we was limping on an actual play. Not limping back to the huddle, or limping on the sideline, and then powering through it when it goes live, but limping while running with the football.

I would have been nervous with Cousins on the field too, but honestly I thought he proved himself this year, for finishing out the Ravens as much for the entire game he had against the Browns. If they had an entire halftime to gameplan with him and prepare, I would be confidant with the ball in his hands. And I felt that way watching it live too.

It is a little weird to me how RGIII is bigger than the Redskins themselves right now. There was virtually no other game analysis outside of the RGIII injury. Granted, that storyline is HUGE and is about serious real-life impact to a person who is beloved pretty much universally it seems so far.

It was an issue for maybe a week afterwards and now people are ultimately okay with it. Of course, Strasburg wasn't even injured, so that was why people had the problem with it.

This will be an issue into next season and potentially for the rest of his career.

The equivalent of what Shanahan did was to watch Strasburg get, say, a 6-0 lead in the first two innings, then stick with him as he visibly grimaced with arm pain and the opposing team climbed to within 6-5. Then they kept trying to ride him to a complete game because "he's their best pitcher."

IAmRight:my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: it became WHAR STRABURG WHAR, and when we eventually lost, a large number of people blamed just that.

It was an issue for maybe a week afterwards and now people are ultimately okay with it. Of course, Strasburg wasn't even injured, so that was why people had the problem with it.

This will be an issue into next season and potentially for the rest of his career.

The equivalent of what Shanahan did was to watch Strasburg get, say, a 6-0 lead in the first two innings, then stick with him as he visibly grimaced with arm pain and the opposing team climbed to within 6-5. Then they kept trying to ride him to a complete game because "he's their best pitcher."

I thought this was an interesting look at it. Also compares RGIII staying in to Schilling pitching in the playoffs with his tendon sutured to his ankle skin. Of course the important distinction was made that for one of them it was very near the end of their career, and for the other it was the very beginning.