I think Daniel is already a significantly more interesting character, with way more potential, than Jack. I wish they'd just get rid of Jack. Emily's relationship with Daniel has so much more potential conflict, and I think the two actors have a lot more chemistry. I've never felt even remotely invested in Jack/Emily.

I'm almost to the point of getting rid of Jack, Declan, and Fauxmanda. They do not advance the story. Yes, real Amanda was in love with Jack, but that's not happening now. Let him sail off with Fauxmanda and their baby, take Declan with them so he won't get killed after robbing people's houses, and end that storyline. There's enough going on that they aren't necessary anymore.

Isn't the baby really Jack's though? I thought she just lied to her when she said that it wasn't.

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No, I don't think it is. She told Emanda that she'd slept with someone else and was worried. She arranged for the fake paternity test for her to give to Jack. Knowing the truth gives her the leverage she needs.

Random question. Do the rich folk live in the Hamptons year round? I always thought it was a summer spot. The Graysons at least seem to live there the whole year

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Typically it's a summer house. But last season we saw that they stayed there through Thanksgiving anyway. But I think the idea was that it was an unusual occurrence for them because of Daniel's incarceration. This season picked up at Memorial Day, the start of the summer season.

is that whole family intent on setting up declan or having jack owe them something? seemed weird. not good weird. more get me back to the main story these people are as compelling as oatmeal weird.

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Last week I thought it came out of nowhere - deleted scenes from an old OC script, and yes there was a HUGE jump to Declan actually breaking, entering and stealing from last week's hold the stash which was

But further in, I think we see what's really going on here. Good guy Jack and vulnerable Declan are being set up by creepy "come to my house" guy.

All I can say is this better tie back to the rest of the story or I'm FFing through this one.

Last season I was tentatively supportive of the Declan/Charlotte storyline as I thought they represented a more innocent parallel to all the stuff their older siblings and parents were doing, but it seems that with the drug abuse and now this, we are going off track somewhat - perhaps in an effort to get the younger viewers who used to watch OC?

(I mention OC several times because the creator/writer of Revenge used to write for OC.)

I think Daniel is already a significantly more interesting character, with way more potential, than Jack. I wish they'd just get rid of Jack. Emily's relationship with Daniel has so much more potential conflict, and I think the two actors have a lot more chemistry.

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You know that the actors playing Emily and Daniel are together in RL, right?

Yes - he said something about the trauma there (WHM, the talented Mr Hamptons) and wanting to move on. Plus it's a plot device to get him in Emily's house. And maybe budget cuts - that was a helluva set!

The Graysons have mentioned a place in the city, and given that Conrad's been using it as a place to take his girlfriends, Victoria likes the Hampton's better - I think she even said something at one point about not wanting to go to the city or preferring the summer house or something. And didn't they talk about it in the divorce proceedings too - having several places - maybe even one more for skiing somewhere?

Victoria has never believed that Amanda is Amanda. She's also never trusted Emily. She's fairly close to making the connection, IMO...

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I would agree with you that she's very distrustful. I'm sure she knows something is not quite right, but can't put her fingers on just what that is yet. Emanda has been at too many places that are just too convenient for her to totally believe her.

However, while people may suspect that Emanda is not who she says she is, the whole scheme is a bit too out there for people to fully grasp it. The amount of background and cooperation that she has had to do to make it all work is pretty incredible. So I can see Victoria believing that something is off but not really grasping the full extent of it.

However, while people may suspect that Emanda is not who she says she is, the whole scheme is a bit too out there for people to fully grasp it. The amount of background and cooperation that she has had to do to make it all work is pretty incredible. So I can see Victoria believing that something is off but not really grasping the full extent of it.

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ITA. I think once she finds out, she won't be wholly surprised because she knows there's something wrong. She just doesn't know what it is. She's known there was something odd about Emily from fay 1 though, remember she got Frank to do a background check? She had no reason to be suspicious then. Now, she's got a lot

In my mind this show is really about Emily vs Victoria, bitter enemies, but also very much alike and thus equal adversaries. Emily may be the good vs Victoria's evil, but the further we get into the story the more that line blurs. I can already see what started as a show that could have been called Emily's Revenge is much broader than that now, and certainly Victoria's got both the motives and capacity for revenge herself. Just not the ninja skills

Emily is evil. Telling Amanda the baby wasn't Jack's...dark and twisty, as Nolan said. I thought it was pretty interesting contradict this to the flashback of her relationship with Aiden, and show how she has toughened up since he left. It's unusual to see a flashback or even a current scene with Emily showing genuine compassion.