eating to bulk smooth by over stuffing and going by scale weight to say ''i'm 220 trying to get bigger for diet in summer'then looking in mirror in summer and still delusional thinking it worked.or trying to look big in clothes...

i asked him whether he realizes he will just extend his diet time needed, he replied, nah i dont care i need couple lbs more until im a monster.

hes already fat and very smooth and somehow thinks the weight he will gain from now will be muscle

it dosen't work period,,even enhanced but difference is enhanced u could be smooth but full and hard looking with veins and look swole in tank top or clothes ,,real muscle leaness with fiber look ,,dry takes long time training,eating,timing natty or enhanced long process...

yeah, enhanced you will still gain muscle, ofcourse, but just as much fat.youre absoutely right, it will pop out some, in form of fullnes and a vein here and there under the bloof, but thats it.

training and eating right over long period of time is the key to quality physique.

time is more importnat than steroids, something that dumb newcomers selectively dont like to hear.

you'll agree thats why zane,,,abdullahh stood and stand out due to fibrous leaness under clothes u just can't appreciate...big guys like dj and ronnie,yates is impressive but impossible to keep for life it's illusion/delusion,,,

i did a set of something with 15reps, then a set of 10 reps , followed by a set of 9 reps, increasing the weight.

he first gave me the "valueable" piece of advice to increase the weight(to do fewer reps), in order to get better gains(i dwarf him and outlean him its not even funny btw).

then when i pyramided my weight down, he gave me the tip to not do too many sets, for i could be overtraining easily.

coming from a guy who looks entirely untrained i thought this was a classic.

side note there is a thread on muscular development forum from a parker or something guy giving dietary advice, its full of bro science, i laughed all my way through it.

You do know that for the natural trainee this advice is correct, right? Lower repetitions, lower volume, higher intensity and more rest. You do also acknowledge that you probably look better than him because of drugs, not your training regime, right?

To summarise this thread for enthusiastic young trainers, in case they don't have time to read the whole thread:

Basically it's all about switching up your routines, and adding mad weight to shock the muscles into growth mode and keep your body guessing. Hit the muscles from every angle and don't leave the gym without using the cables if you want the sculpted look. Eat at least 8 small meals per day, 1.75 grams of protein per pound of lean bodyweight, chew your shakes to trick the brain into meal mode, and keep your supplement cupboard filled so your body's getting all it needs to mutate. Sleep for at least 12 hours so your bicep peaks can fully recover from the extra inch per week from hitting that head, and the extra length it's grown from full ROM genetically altering EZ bar curls.