Letter: Khrushchev prediction slowly coming true

Posted: October 8, 2012 - 8:38pm

“We will take America without firing a shot ... we will bury you!

“We can’t expect the American people to jump from capitalism to communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have communism.

“We do not have to invade the United States, we will destroy you from within.”

This is a quote attributed to the late Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev.

Sounds like a wise man, a modern day Nostradamus — and also a man who helped Stalin murder hundreds of thousands of political opponents in Russia.

I know at this late hour everyone who intends to vote already has choosen their candidate. I beg you to keep in mind that freedoms we have enjoyed in the past are being taken from us a little at a time, just as Khrushchev predicted.

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My Blue Dog Democrat mother quoted that Khrushchev line all the time; "we will destroy you from within." I find it interesting that back in those days even Democrats recognized and acknowledged the dangers our republic faced.

Those who lived through the cold war years, and those immigrants who came from countries that lack the freedom we have here, understand what Mr. Davis is saying. I fear that many of our younger people don't understand or care. Things may have to get very bad before Americans as a whole have the wisdom and the will to make it better. We've grown prosperous enough and have successfully shielded our population from hardship long enough that we've simply grown stupid.

Khrushchev's country no longer exists. The USSR broke into 15 pieces in 1991. The Eastern Bloc- Warsaw Pact nations are all democratic. Russia is a third-rate power. Cuba and North Korea have no viable economy and are on welfare. Laos and Vietnam are inconsequential. The only thriving Communist country is China, and it is thriving because of the consumer industries operating in complete defiance of Communist principles, it is a capitalist economy ruled by a nominally Communist military. So who buried whom? We're doing fine, Mr. Davis, and the sky is not falling.

Communism is alive and well in America and it has been for decades! The fact remains that very smart people in America think Communism works and want to lead us that direction. There are people here on this board who believe in Communism. The lie is " They do not exist" Yes they do and many of this administration have Communist Party Links on their web pages as has been proven by real journalist. Van Jones and others are confessed Communist. Not to mention many of this administration quoting Stalin and Mao as world visionaries instead of murderous thugs. So called Historians want to bash Ford, Carnegie and Vanderbilt while embracing the likes of Castro, Chavez and Mao. Communism is alive and well and it is growing the same way it did in China and Russia - with the adoption of Political Correctness, Hate Speech, Dishonesty and 1%er Activism! The sky is falling - look around you - your freedoms are being eliminated one by one! College and Universities adapt the Communist credo and are indoctrinating our children into the ways of socialism and Communism. The lie can be told over and over but you have to believe it for it to be true ! I don’t!

I agree with all the above posts except Bubba_Billybob. It is apparent you grew up in a different era then I did. To say "Laos and Vietnam are inconsequential" may be true in your brain, but not for a lot of Vietnam Vets for fought and watch their friends die just for you to make such flipped remarks.

We are not doing fine and we are in trouble and headed for doom if we do not take a stand and correct it. This great nation was founded on religious beliefs and we have turned our back on religion as a whole. Everyone wants everything, including things that are immoral to be accepted.

History has a way of repeating itself and we turn a blind eye to it and thing we are doing fine. One day we will wake up, but that day will come too late as we will no loner be "One Nation Under GOD."

On the subject of conspiratorial threats, Have you studied them? or just wrote them off as a lie because fact check said so? Have you connected the dots?...first thing to do is read who is the spoon that feeds factcheck? Check' em out at:

This country has never been or is going to ever be Communist. When people spout that diatribe, it is moronic, idiotic, absurd, and borders on the ridiculous. What makes this country so great and to be admired is our diverse culture and freedom to think, say, read, listen to, watch what we want. Our freedoms are as intact today as they were or have been at any time in this country's history. Just because people have a difference of opinion doesn't mean we are slipping into a communist state. No matter what political leaning you may be, in the end it is a good thing to have different thoughts and ideas about how to make this country thrive and prosper. Stop with the Communism, Fascism, Nazi, or whatever other restrictive or dominating power that has existed or exists in our world. To say so is to degrade and debase our way of life and belittle this country. On November 6th, all that care to exercise their precious right to vote will and on November 7th we will no who will be the leader of the free world for the next four years. I understand early voting will start soon but most people like to vote on Election Day.

I recognize the flaws of a communist system; that is why I am not a communist. But we live in a system that over values the middle man and under values the producers. In fact, many Republicans are even inclined to compare them to parasites.

And when the workers expect fair wages, we call that communism. News flash, folks, communism pays for NON production, not for production. The worker brings (hypothetically; I acknowledge this is not always the case) their knowledge, experience and education with them. As an IT worker, when I leave a company, my certs, education and experience walk out the door with me.

Yes, investors do have a right to expect reasonable return on their investment. But they've gone past expecting reasonable returns and started expecting ridiculous returns, in order to hedge their bets against the more foolish investments in their portfolios.

As I tell people frequently, I don't hate rich people; I want to BE rich people. But I do hate the idea of anyone seeking wealth through the exploitation of others. Capitalism is a grand thing; it spurs productivity and innovation. But a system like ours is no more capitalist than it is communist. We protect monopolistic control over entire industries, and we shut out innovators with red tape. We disincentivize production by paying the same wages out to our most productive workers as we pay to our least productive. And the wealthy often (not always) become ridiculously so, to the point where their children and their grandchildren will never have to work a real job in their lives.

If you want to keep taking away our freedoms, if you demand political correctness(lying by ommission) then I would suggests it is about time to officially organize a return of The House Committee on UnAmerican Activities. The ideals and suggestion of some living in this nation are offensive to me as a citizen and voter. The ideal and policies that allow anti-American rants to be labled as College Lecture Series is simply beyond imagination. 100s if not 1000s of people should be brought before House committees and interviewed just like the steroid abusers, the vulgar music lovers, and Big Oil executives. If the actions of these 3 Americian entities are illegal then the actions of Revernd Wright, Bill Ayers, Ward Churchill and George Soros should be investigated as well !

It should not be illegal to hold a political opinion, ANY political opinion, in the United States of America. This is anethema to the rights guaranteed us by the First Amendment. You and I don't have to agree, but it is reasonable to expect that we should respect each other's right to an opinion. To strike that, to limit that, is to go up against the Constitution full tilt, and it is not consistent with the ideals expressed by our founding fathers.

For any committee, especially consisting of partisans, to use broad powers to decide whether my exercise of free speech, or religion, constitutes "American" or "UnAmerican" activities is to blatantly abuse the power that was meant to rest in the hands of the American people. An UnAmerican Activities Committee with ANY power to act is, in itself, UnAmerican.

@retro - Here's the First Amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

Communism is not a religion and it definitely abridges the freedom of speech and the press and the right of people to peaceably assemble and a person's right to petition the government for a redress of grievance. So yeah, in my opinion, communism has no place in the framework or fabric of the USA - therefore, it can and should be made illegal.

Charles if we reconvene HUAC we might as well spark up the witch trials as well.
What a moronic statement.
Those who spout this "we will be conquered from within by the enemy" are just trying to frighten people. It generally works on those who are easily led, who are willing to believe the direst of circumstances are at hand, and those who love to have a common enemy to hate.
Lowest common denominator.

1. Communism suppresses free speech.
2. Communism suppresses religious freedom.
3. Communism suppresses private ownership of the means of production.
4. Communism is all about central control.
5. Communism attempts to enslave the masses to make them easier to control.
6. There can be no argument that the US government is expanding its control exponentially, much faster than state or local governments.
7. There can be little argument that the US government is actively participating in points 1-5 above.
8. The camel's nose is well into the tent.
9. Call it communist, call it progressive, call it CandyLand . . . it has been tried in the former Soviet Union and is unsustainable.

James Madison, "Father of the Constitution" and chief author (1794): ""I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."

bubbabillybob, bolt, retrogeek, and aynrand are perfect examples of those whom Vladimir Lenin and Joseph Stalin termed "useful tools (or fools)"---seemingly educated people who advocated the Communist party line in other countries without really understanding what it would mean if the Communist party gained control in their country. The equivalent term for the Nazi Party was "quisling", named for a Nazi puppet in Norway who helped Hitler gain control of that country.

James Madison stated, in a speech at the Virginia Convention to ratify the Federal Constitution on 6/6/1788: "Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpations, but on a candid examination of history, we shall find that turbulence, violence, and abuse of power, by the majority trampling on the rights of the minority, have produced factions and commotions, which, in republics, have, more frequently than any other cause, produced despotism. If we go over the whole history of ancient and modern republics, we shall find their destruction to have generally resulted from those causes."

Patrick Henry stated: "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone that approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.”

Both men were pretty wise , for the concepts they stated are still true today.

I guess I will never understand why being afraid of ________________(fill in the blank) is so common amongst some on this board. The U.S. is not on a path to destruction, no more than we were decades ago when the House Un-American Activities Committee destroyed the lives of totally innocent Americans. The Salem witch trials did much the same, providing a convenient target for those who needed someone to blame for ____________(again, fill in the blank).

We can always count on you for a personal attack even though you excoriate others for the same.

You continue to call me a useful idiot; I remain firm in my contention I am neither.

Now, to the point at hand, if you don't support free speech for communists, you shouldn't support free speech for Christians. Before the ink was even dry on the Constitution, there were citizens pressing for a return to British rule, a subject as abhorrent as communism is in the intellectual marketplace in places like the TX Panhandle. Their speech was tolerated even as it was opposed by those who had fought so hard to break free.

You purport to be a Christian, Yhmil, yet you ardently support mammon even to the point of personally attacking those who say that there's something wrong with the current system. Why does the idea of caring for the poor and needy and paying workers a fair wage offend you so? No personal attacks; let's try for a straight answer here.

What the author doesn't understand about Krushchev's comment is that it is actually based upon the writing of Karl Marx and his prediction that pure Capitalism cannot exist for long because unregulated Capitalism breeds corruption in monetary markets. Marx goes on to say that the natural solution to corruption is government regulation, or if you will Socialism.

So in a sense the letter writer gets it correct. But doesn't really recognize the real causes of increased regulation.

The Wall Street collapse of 2007 happened because of widespread corruption in the banking industry. After a spate of regulation cutting during the Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, and Bush II admins, we have markets that are considerably less regulated. True to form, the risk taking in those markets has increased exponentially. The result has been the failure of a couple of huge banks, Bear- Stearns and Countrywide and the failure of several smaller banks. The trick is finding a balance of regulation and free market economics. Right now at least, Russia and China seem to be more successful at it than we are. Their economies have more room to grow perhaps, which might explain some of their success. It is also worth considering that, just as Romney said in the recent debate, regulation is necessary. We have to find the balance and not succumb to easy sound byte reasoning. Over-regulation or bad regulation is a danger, so too is the total lack of regulation.

He writes to me: "It is apparent you grew up in a different era then I did. To say "Laos and Vietnam are inconsequential" may be true in your brain, but not for a lot of Vietnam Vets for fought and watch their friends die just for you to make such flipped remarks."

I don;t know what era you grew up in, but I spent 8+ years in an Army uniform (US Army Reserve) during the Vietnam War. I did not serve in SE Asia, but I did indeed have close friends who did and some of whom never came back alive. Your comment is offensive to a greater degree than you can possibly understand. Where were you during those years, sir? I'm eager to know.

I did not say or imply anything about the Vietnam war. What I said is that, today, neither Laos or Vietnam is a significant player politically, militarily or economically in world affairs, and the United States is indeed still the big dog. We buried Communism, not the other way around.