Watch The Knife’s 13-minute film about the creation of Shaking The Habitual

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If you’re having difficulty getting deep into The Knife’s Top Star-earning new album Shaking The Habitual, you’re certainly not alone. It’s a dense album concerned with social structures, class privilege, and identity politics, all layered on top of the kind of avant-garde pop music that reflects how thorny those issues can be.

Thankfully, The Knife offered up this self-made interview about the Shaking The Habitual that features Olof Dreijer and Karin Dreijer Andersson discussing the intent of the album as a montage of (un)related images scroll by. In the 13-munute film, the duo help dissect some of the ideas behind the album, discuss the “non-traditional ways of creating traditional sounds”, and ask an important hypothetical: “Maybe our record poses a question, ‘What can a protest song be today?'” Watch it below.

The film was directed by Marit Ãstberg, who also directed the equally cryptic video for “Full of Fire”.