Beck: People don't recognize 'Obama's version of Christianity'

By Matt DeLong

Updated at 2:05 p.m.

Just one day after he drew a sea of conservative activists to see him speak on the National Mall, Fox News host Glenn Beck appeared on "Fox News Sunday" to discuss the event. Beck said his rally -- at which former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin also spoke -- drew "on the low end 300,000" attendees up to "as many as 650,000." Unofficial estimates of the crowd size have varied wildly. CBS estimated 87,000 attendees based on aerial photographs, while NBC quoted an anonymous park service official who said there were 300,000 in the audience. The Park Service did not release an official estimate. Beck said there is 'not a chance' of a Beck-Palin GOP ticket in 2012. He said he has "zero desire" to run for president. "I don't think I would be electable," he said.

Beck explained that the gathering, which took place on the 47th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech in the same location, was intended to reclaim the mantle of the civil rights movement from politics for "people of faith." Beck dismissed his critics who say that he has frequently engaged in racial politics by saying "race should not be in politics."

Beck said he didn't agree with King's calls for economic justice. "The real agenda should be equal justice, an equal shot," Beck said. "The dream was to judge man by the content of his character, not the color of his skin. I don't know that we've done that." He added that the Justice Department is "certainly not doing that" in the case of the New Black Panther Party, referencing an alleged incident of voter intimidation on Election Day in 2008 -- a controversy driven in no small part by Beck's television show that many on the left have cited as evidence of Beck's willingness to stoke racial fear among white people. Beck said "African Americans should be equally outraged" over the incident.

The conservative commentator said he regrets his infamous comments that President Obama is a "racist" with a "deep-seated hatred of white people." He said he was "miscasting as racism" the president's "liberation theology" ideology, which he said relies on the lens of "oppressor and victim" to understand the world. Beck said Obama made the case in a speech to students that "your salvation is directly tied to collective salvation," which Beck said was "a direct opposite of what the gospel talks about ... Jesus came for personal salvation." Beck said "people aren't recognizing [Obama's] version of Christianity."

To his critics who attack his wealth, Beck said the money doesn't matter. "I think it's going to be worthless," he said, adding that he doesn't know "if it's going to be gold or acorns" that America will use as currency in the future.

Beck is a sick racist and instigator of racist hatred. He, along with the racists who spew such ignorance of the world religions with Christianity, an African religion, being at the top, would do the world a favor by being quiet about something they know nothing about.

I was in attendance on Sunday. For those that were not, let me tell you just how exciting it was to be a part of a group of people who love their country and want it to remain faithful to its Constitution and to all its people. American citizens are the backbone of this country. There is no need for a Constitution if there is no citizens for it to govern. We must be true to our forefathers and the beliefs that were so eloquently stated in such a brief set of guidelines for us to follow. We are one people, one set of needs with one set of goals. Keep it simple and cut out the separation of people. (Divide and conquer) We are Americans with different ethnic backgrounds. We are all Americans. Stop with the separateness. We are all equal in the eys of God. Be true to these simple truths. Keep our representatives true to these truths. We could remain a strong and united country if all would remember this.

But here we are. Fox's famously gullible flock are now taking their lectures on Christianity from a man who wears Magic White Underwear and believes God lives with his wife on a planet orbiting an imaginary star called Kolob.

Obama needs to defend his faith from someone like that???

And we wonder why America is in bad shape. It's the people, stupid! The stupid people, that is.

Obama has made at least four speeches in which he says he believes in Collective Salvation.
Christianity believes in Individual Salvation.
Collective Salvation is a perversion of Christianity that the Pope himself came out against.
Collective Salvation, Anti-American beliefs, and anti-White bigotry are all part of Black Liberation Theology which is from Reverend Wrights church where Obama sat for 20 years. His new religious advisor also believes in this perversion of Christianity.
This also goes along with Obama's wish to "Redistribute the Wealth", and oppressors and the oppressed.

The Mormon god goes about "cursing" people with black skin so they won't be "enticing" to the good people. Here's what the Book of Mormon says:

"And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a dskin of blackness to come upon them." [2 Nephi 5: 21]

Read it yourself on the official internet site of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Here's the link:

I have listened to Glenn Beck for a while now and I don't recall EVER hearing him say for you to think this way or that. Instead, he does the exact opposite of what the liberals do. He actually tells you GO OUT AND READ IT FOR YOURSELF. DO NOT TAKE MY WORD, RESEARCH IT FOR YOURSELF. He never has mentioned anything other than God is his Saviour.... read THE BIBLE. He is not telling anyone to think this way or that, just go out and discover the truth for yourself. I have never heard of any of Becks previous pastors say g@d Damn America! (though to be fair,I don't think Obama was in the pews that day) Or the many other inflammatory things he has said ... have you? I suppose it doesn't matter because he (Obama) has denounced his as a friend and pastor now so the years that he sat and listened to him doesn't matter. I know personally, if I sit in the company of someone for any length of time it is because I agree with what he is saying. Or are you all naive enough to think he JUST start to spout trash like that? Liberal tell their ilk what to say and think. They tell you racist comments were made during the obama care bill passage no matter how the reports show there was none. Everyone is outraged and many of you blindly follow. The paper retracts statement that the comments were never made, but nobody reports that. For all the stuff spewn forth that Tea Party / Republicans are racistis or bigots I never see or given evedence of it. But, if we were to look to the left I can give you example after example of racism, and bigotry and the list goes on. Why is that?

As I life long member of the United Church of Christ, I can assure you that Beck knows NOTHING of Obama's version of Christianity. In fact, I question Beck's version of Christianity. Are mormons even really Christian? They sure don't act like it.

As I life long member of the United Church of Christ, I can assure you that Beck knows NOTHING of Obama's version of Christianity. In fact, I question Beck's version of Christianity. Are mormons even really Christian? They sure don't act like it.

As I life long member of the United Church of Christ, I can assure you that Beck knows NOTHING of Obama's version of Christianity. In fact, I question Beck's version of Christianity. Are mormons even really Christian? They sure don't act like it.

Glenn Beck is NOT STUPID. He's actually very smart, he knows how to make great wealth for himself by exploiting fear and arousing anger. The greater the controversy, the more he gets paid by Fox. Note how he never mentions the name of the person who is funding the building of the controversial Cordoba mosque a few blocks from ground zero. That is because that person is Saudi Prince Alwaleed who also happens to be Fox News major shareholder. They talk so much about American patriotism but is paid by a fake news company whose biggest shareholders are an Australian and a Saudi prince. I do not have any problems with the Saudi prince or Murdoch but under any other circumstances, Glenn Beck would have displayed the name of any other Muslim fundraiser on his blackboard while he is stoking fears of Muslims.

He is also using Hitler's form of propaganda of appealing to the lowest intellect and keep repeating slogans of your propaganda with no regard to truth. All Beck's practices can be traced to Chapter IV of Mein Kampf.

He is also very cleverly using religion to appeal to the masses. He knows most people do not read or understand the Bible so he takes things out of context and twist it to his purpose. I'm so glad there are Christians here who understand the teachings of Christ and what our Lord wants us to do - to love and not to hate; to forgive and not to judge and always to help the poor, the wretched, the sick. Read what our Lord Jesus actually says in John 4.

I have no problems with conservative policies; just don't falsely use the name of our Lord to build your wealth.

There should be checks and balances in our government but I fear, if Glenn Beck and his followers continue to appeal to more and more angry people, our country will be like Nazi Germany: full of anger and hatred and always trying to find a scapegoat. Note the FBI warning that the number of increasing hate groups pose the greatest threat to our nation - not Muslim extremists, not a socialist agenda, not homosexuals, not choice activists.

You're confused all right. Neither liberals, progressives or libertarians want their politicians to promote their religion within government and there are a fair amount of conservatives that really believe in the wall of separation of Church and State.

If they're asked about their religious beliefs they'll answer them but that's not promoting ..... faith based initiatives in government are promoting religion.

Some of us get a little nervous when we our Presidents say they hear God speaking to them. Some people who hear God speaking to them are put in institutions so they don't hurt themselves or others.

If Glenn Beck wants to hit the crowd up for $10 as part of his religion. That's great. I hope the everyone there sent Glenn $10 or more a head. Glenn will help stimulate the economy and create jobs. ... humbly.

~90K people. After two months of both Beck,and the "Quitta from Wasilla" hawking this rally on a daily basis and ~90k is all they could get? What a joke. The yearly DC Gay Pride Parade gets 250-300K a year. I thought beck told us America was "fed up" and "mad". 90K people! Hahahaha...

This photo was taken at noon on the day of the rally. I see more green space than I do people. Really...this is pretty embarrasing that the combined efforts of Palin, Beck and a Cable News network hawking this rally for two solid months almost as much as they do that gold company and the tally got to 90K?

~90K people. After two months of both Beck,and the "Quitta from Wasilla" hawking this rally on a daily basis and ~90k is all they could get? What a joke. The yearly DC Gay Pride Parade gets 250-300K a year. I thought beck told us America was "fed up" and "mad". 90K people! Hahahaha...

This photo was taken at noon on the day of the rally. I see more green space than I do people. Really...this is pretty embarrasing that the combined efforts of Palin, Beck and a Cable News network hawking this rally for two solid months almost as much as they do that gold company and the tally got to 90K?

The real mystery is how such a nonentity as Glenn Beck with less insight than the average five year old can command the attention of thousands. It is the one flaw in the first ammendment. Sometimes people who speak totally from ignorance (such as Beck and Limbaugh) DO speak, and those of lesser minds listen and the result is this travesty of everything that America stands for - equal justice, honesty, and integrity, all qualities that Beck lacks.

"...After a few references to Dr. King and our military, Mr. Beck went for the money. He asked everyone in the multitude with a cell phone to donate $10.00 via text. Twenty minutes later, he was pressuring the crowd to start tithing (donating 10% of their income to the church). Considering the proximity of the Reflecting Pool, one has to wonder why he didn’t avail himself the opportunity for a mass baptism. Could it be the notion of thousands of Tea Party participants in warm water congers a vision of something more than a political brew? ..."

Obama is a real Christian. His is a personal faith that he doesn't shove down anyone's throat. He lives out his faith by treating others with love and respect--often in the face of their hateful, racist comments. He better represents the Jesus of the Bible than most of these hatemongering so-called Christians who are closer to the Pharisees in the Bible than anyone Jesus "hung out" with.

Obama is a real Christian. His is a personal faith that he doesn't shove down anyone's throat. He lives out his faith by treating others with love and respect--often in the face of their hateful, racist comments. He better represents the Jesus of the Bible than most of these hatemongering so-called Christians who are closer to the Pharisees in the Bible than anyone Jesus "hung out" with.

Obama is a real Christian. His is a personal faith that he doesn't shove down anyone's throat. He lives out his faith by treating others with love and respect--often in the face of their hateful, racist comments. He better represents the Jesus of the Bible than most of these hatemongering so-called Christians who are closer to the Pharisees in the Bible than anyone Jesus "hung out" with.

Beck seems to be preaching anti-government, but he somehow left out the largest government program the nation has ever had: The Patriot Act signed by Bush. This is a SUPEER GIANT GOVERNMENT PROGRAM and it cost more than social security, medicare, and Obamacare combined. Yet, Beck and Palin show no concern that American's lost all of their civil liberties with this act.

So my guess is that the Beck/Palin game is not truly related to anti-big government or even restore America. Something else is at play.

Another guess is that the Beck/Palin and Tea Party is more related to creating a corporate dictatorship in the US. Recent Supreme Court rulings support this guess.

The owner of Fox News a Muslim by the name of Talal must be happy. He is raking in billions for his Muslim friends and companies all from the anti-Muslim crowd that listens to Fox News. OUCH! No doubt some of this profit finds its way to Iraq and Afghanistan to kill American soldiers...courtesy of Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin.

"Restore America"? I would love to here what exactly they would like to "restore".

Perhaps they would like the U.S. to return to slavery, lynchings, a serious depression, poll taxes, abortions in the alley, hate speach against the Jews, Italians, Irish, Japanese, oil lamps, 'flat earth', polio, plagues, fighting our native people!

Posted by: hfaulk01 | August 29, 2010 8:03 PM

Why do you government lovers always throw extremes like this out there?

Read the Constitution. Read the Federalist papers. Read the writings of those times.

IF YOU DO, you will see how ridiculous your comments are.You would see that everything you stand for was abhorred by our Founders, which was why they wrote up documents like the Declaration and the Bill of Rights. They wrote those documents so that it would take almost 300 years of fanatical, relentlessness by Godless zealots like you to take it apart and usher in tyranny.

I only pray that enough Americans have woken up to start rolling back the perversions you maniacs have bestowed on this country with your 100 year long creeping cancer of moral decay.

Your ideology has caused 20 prior civilizations to lie on the ash heap of history.

Hopefully enough of us can get educated soon enough to stop you and your hordes of soulless goblins from throwing US on the ash heap of history.

From the age of 10, I was privileged to attend some of the best private schools in America. (Sorry, ceefer66, I learned how to spell 'elitist' at that age, unlike you)."

So self-hatred is your problem. Thanks for clearing that up.

As for the "spelling mistake", it was an honest typo. I too, learned how to spell correctly - from my Mom who was an English teacher, and from the segregated schools I attended in Kansas City that educated me well enough to compete with smug, over-privilieged clowns like yourself

"I've always detested elitist brats, and the current crop of Obama/Pelosi/Reid types are arrogant and detestable."

"As a man, I always prefer that an adversary considers me to be stupid. And, so you do."

Glad I could help.

"Good luck, ceefer66!"

And to you, have a happy landing (a nice way of telling you where to go and what to do with yourself once you get there).

I don't recognize Beck and Palin's version of Christianity. Nor do I want to. This country was founded on religious freedom. Beck and Palin want us to believe their religions...I choose not to, which is my guaranteed right.

I wonder if anyone handed out belt buckles with Gott Mit Uns inscribed on them... this mixing of politics and religion is really scaring me. It's SO polarizing and has been used over and over again in history to divide people from each other. I fear these people's faith and fears in our changing demographics is being used and twisted!

Why can't they see it?! What would these paramount of virtue like Beck and Palin want this country to go back to?! History is A LOT rosier looking at just the positives and completely ignoring the rest!

I wonder if anyone handed out belt buckles with Gott Mit Uns inscribed on them... this mixing of politics and religion is really scaring me. It's SO polarizing and has been used over and over again in history to divide people from each other. I fear these people's faith and fears in our changing demographics is being used and twisted!

Why can't they see it?! What would these paramount of virtue like Beck and Palin want this country to go back to?! History is A LOT rosier looking at just the positives and completely ignoring the rest!

Mr. Beck has cost millions trillions by pimping their purchase of overvalued gold coins. Good luck, faithful. Yes, it's true gold will never be worth nothing. But the same is true of a postage stamp, a can of Coke, or a pair of Palin's panties. But he seems very sincere, weeps copiously, and erupts daily with an endless barrage of well-meaning platitudes. Can't hurt... but guard your wallets!

Mr. Beck has cost millions trillions by pimping their purchase of overvalued gold coins. Good luck, faithful. Yes, it's true gold will never be worth nothing. But the same is true of a postage stamp, a can of Coke, or a pair of Palin's panties. But he seems very sincere, weeps copiously, and erupts daily with an endless barrage of well-meaning platitudes. Can't hurt... but guard your wallets!

Fortunately, despite being an amoral opportunist with good teeth and a solid track record of reneging on commitments, the major drawback to Mitt Romney's becoming the Republican candidate for president is that the heartless of the GOP base don't recognize Beck's or Romney's version of Christianity, either.

There's probably a REASON why Fox, owned primarily by Australian Rupert Murdoch and a Saudi prince, have a program, "Are You Smarter than a Fifth Grader?" It's likely because they figure that an extremely large number of their viewers would find it challenging. (Strictly, it should probably be, "Do You Know As Much As a Fifth Grader?" But that would give away the game.)

And a major reason why Beck goes on about the "history" one doesn't learn in school is that to a very large extent, Beck's "history" is concocted.

Not surprisingly, when people like Beck say, "Time to take our country back," they don't add "Time to take our country back from people like Murdoch and multi-millionaire or multi-billionaire corporate executives who ship our jobs to Communist China and think that YOU should work to 70 so that THEY can pay less in taxes than you do and so that THEIR children can inherit tax free while YOUR children and grandchildren have to slave away to repay the tax goodies paid for by money that THEIR Republican friends borrowed from the Communist Chinese and our good friends and allies, the Saudis."

The really sad thing is that so many Democrats and also a lot of Republicans who undoubtedly really DO love our great country are scared into doing the wrong thing in order not to upset the screamers at meetings, people who can't stand the idea that people who are not like them are becoming part of the American Dream, and people who don't care about the future because they are hoping that Jesus will come back the day after tomorrow and will not notice how thoroughly they have rejected his teachings in reality while claiming that THEY are going to be the only ones in heaven because they're the true believers.

Beck, Palin and many other right wing pundits and politicians are simply tapping into the basic fears and emotions of people who are understandably worried -- a natural and reoccurring mindset during times of economic uncertainty. This Return-to-God approach to dealing with hardship is hardly new, and it's intellectually lazy and usually (politically) motivationally manipulative.

Glenn is little more than a political televangelist taking his dog and pony act on the road. When windbags such as Beck and Palin call for a return to God as a guiding spirit in order to make America better, what they really mean is that we need to make the nation into more of a Christianity-based theocracy, using the tenets of Christian beliefs as the basis for forming public policy.

However, God is not a micro-managing puppet master, and (gasp!) He does not favor one religion over another. Religion and politics make poor bedfellows. We need to focus on secular societal ethical behavior and non-faith based solutions to our nation's problems ... and leave religious morality in the church, synagogue, or mosque and within every individual's home.

HE ISSUE OF OBUMA BEING A CHRISTIAN IS EASILY RESOLVED. OBUMA HAS NEVER SAID THAT THE "ONLY" WAY TO GOD IS THROUGH HIS SON JESUS CHRIST. THAT IS BIBLICAL AND EVERY PERSON WHO CLAIMS TO BE A CHRISTIAN BELIEVES THAT. OBUMA STATES THAT THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO GET THERE. THAT IS CALLED "MOUNTAIN TOP" RELIGION AND IS ENTIRELY WRONG FROM A CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE. BECAUSE A PERSON GOES TO CHURCH DOES NOT MAKE HIM A CHRISTIAN. IT IS WHAT IS IN ACCORD WITH SCRIPTURE. IF SITTING FOR 20 YEARS IN REV WRIGHT" CHURCH IS WHAT OBUMA BASES HIS CHRISTIANITY ON HE IS A FOOL. BUT LET THE EVIDENCE SPEAK FOR ITSELF.

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What evidence? You only prove yourself to be a modern day Pharisee, so quick to look for the perceived imperfections in others' faith that they ignore their own?

Isn't it generous the way the more serious networks still politely call Fox a "News" channel? Fox gave up that distinction when they donated a million dollars to the Republican Party recently. I'm sorry, but you cannot simultaneously claim to be "Fair and Balanced" while reporting political news when you've already come out as the propaganda wing of one of the parties. Can you? How does that work?

Actually Glenn Beck is just a thinner version of Rush Limbaugh with a flattop. Both of these guys spend their time trying to sensationalize daily events in the Beltway and telling their stories through ultra-conservative filters. They each could make "big news" out of a bad bowel movement and do. The irony is they get paid huge sums of money to do so, because we continue to "lap it up". At least John Daily and Stephen Colbert are funny! I am an independent and not liberal or conservative. I am not happy with the State of our Nation now, but there are right and wrong ways to object.

THE ISSUE OF OBUMA BEING A CHRISTIAN IS EASILY RESOLVED. OBUMA HAS NEVER SAID THAT THE "ONLY" WAY TO GOD IS THROUGH HIS SON JESUS CHRIST. THAT IS BIBLICAL AND EVERY PERSON WHO CLAIMS TO BE A CHRISTIAN BELIEVES THAT. OBUMA STATES THAT THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO GET THERE. THAT IS CALLED "MOUNTAIN TOP" RELIGION AND IS ENTIRELY WRONG FROM A CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE. BECAUSE A PERSON GOES TO CHURCH DOES NOT MAKE HIM A CHRISTIAN. IT IS WHAT IS IN ACCORD WITH SCRIPTURE. IF SITTING FOR 20 YEARS IN REV WRIGHT" CHURCH IS WHAT OBUMA BASES HIS CHRISTIANITY ON HE IS A FOOL. BUT LET THE EVIDENCE SPEAK FOR ITSELF.

When was honor lost? When Reagan tripled the national debt? When Bush led us into a war of choice over non-existent weapons of mass destruction? When Bush doubled the national debt? Every time a televangelist is exposed for being a fraud? Maybe Beck is talking about the expansion of the federal government... that mostly happened in the 1930s, and working people at that time supported it.

Is just so reassuring to learn that Glenn really doesn't care about money (I guess the Goldline commercials are just a public service?) and can talk to god. What's really cool is that god, according to Glenn, talks back! Gosh, maybe Glenn is the new Pat Robertson!

To his critics who attack his wealth, Beck said the money doesn't matter. "I think it's going to be worthless," he said, adding that he doesn't know "if it's going to be gold or acorns" that America will use as currency in the future.

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But it sure doesn't hurt to invest in gold, does it, Glenn?

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If he thinks money going to be worthless, why doesn't he donate it now to his charity while it still can do some good? What is holding Beck back? This is what Jesus would do.

Beck is just another Elmer Gantry. If you don't know who Gantry was, Google it.

@maggots - Some folks don't understand the difference between elite (both Clinton & Obama were raised by single parents and both achieved) and elitist (I think the best definition would be someone who thinks their poo smells sweet). Judging from some snob's advice to TP'ers coming to town for the rally, the elitists are those using the rubes.

The arrogance that allows Glenn Beck to assume that he has the right to judge President Obama's "Christianity" is just galling, but from him not at all surprising.

And frankly, it doesn't matter whether or not I recognize Obama's Christianity, I recognize Beck's all too well. There was a time when it ruled the world -- a time we now refer to as "the Dark Ages." It bares the lie that this event was "non-political," because when you talk about "the country turning back to your particular vision of God," it is ALL about politics.

We would do well to remember Sinclair Lewis's observation that, "When Fascism comes to America, it will be carrying a Bible and wrapped in the flag."

From the age of 10, I was privileged to attend some of the best private schools in America. (Sorry, ceefer66, I learned how to spell 'elitist' at that age, unlike you). I enjoy meeting educated people, but I learn so much, everyday, from people who didn't have half the opportunities I had. I've always detested elitist brats, and the current crop of Obama/Pelosi/Reid types are arrogant and detestable.

I deplore elitist brats because I grew up with them and know them too well. I was a published critic of George W. Bush. I may have disagreed with him, but I don't consider George W. Bush an elitist.

As a man, I always prefer that an adversary considers me to be stupid. And, so you do.

Good luck, ceefer66!

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Let's see - GW Bush came from an elite New England family that sent him to prep school and Yale. Obama was raised by a divorced mother from a humble background without much money.

For Jesus stood on the Mount, and said, "it would be easier for a rich man to get into heaven if we would just pave his way a little bit, get rid of that capital gains tax like Mr. Bush did for them."

And then the crowd, looking shocked at the Galileean's strange about-face from his earlier stances, gave out a hushed cry. But this newly reinvented Republican Jesus went on.

"Blessed are the warmongers, and those who would bear false witness against his neighbor by saying they have a 'deep-seated hatred of white people' even without knowing what it is in the man's heart..."

The crowd seemed confused. But it was airing on Fox, and Fox says they're Fair and Balanced, so they must be so! It doesn't matter that they gave a million dollars to the Republican Party. If a news channel says they won't lie to you, then they are the Truth.

For Jesus stood on the Mount, and said, "it would be easier for a rich man to get into heaven if we would just pave his way a little bit, get rid of that capital gains tax like Mr. Bush did for them."

And then the crowd, looking shocked at the Galileean's strange about-face from his earlier stances, gave out a hushed cry. But this newly reinvented Republican Jesus went on.

"Blessed are the warmongers, and those who would bear false witness against his neighbor by saying they have a 'deep-seated hatred of white people' even without knowing what it is in the man's heart..."

The crowd seemed confused. But it was airing on Fox, and Fox says they're Fair and Balanced, so they must be so! It doesn't matter that they gave a million dollars to the Republican Party. If a news channel says they won't lie to you, then they are the Truth.

BECK IS DRECK! & typical of the loud-mouthed bellicose hucksters & clowns of the right on Faux News. After the 'old lady' of the White House press corps verbal blunders forced her to resign, it is outrageous & totally mystifying that press corps members voted to give Faux News the front center chair in the press room. They thus validated the ludicrous posturing of that Al Jazeera of the right as 'Fair & Balanced' For shame!

Hilter rose to power as a loudmouth during difficult economic times in Germany...and blamed Jews because they controlled banking...giving people a target for their anger.

Beck and his ilk are following the same path, but blaming blacks for economic injustices as an easy target. Which is almost funny since it was unregulated banking that helped created this deep recession.

So, instead of hating Jewish bankers for making too much money from charging people too much interest....we're supposed to hate lazy black folk for taking money from people via the Federal welfare programs.

And who's running the Federal government?

Oh no...a black man!

Yeah, freely elected by the largest margin since Clinton. Get over it people.

What I saw of the Beck rally was a very sad crowd, they even put a smile on my face which is hard for a conservative to do. As for Obama doesn't have the following he had then how come MSM won't show his surroundings, did you hear the crowd of people who were at Martha's Vineyard that wasn't shown on purpose? As for welfare how come liberals have to be on welfare because they want equal things for all people. You can't tell me that half of these comments are by cocaine snorting a***** who are just looking for something to do with their computers. The rally was a farce people didn't travel to Washington,D.C. to hear that garbage that Beck was spouting and not the rhetoric that comes out of his mouth on Fox News and the radio. Hell I wouldn't have travel from Washington state to show some hate and plus here it!!!!Now let's keep an eye on his ratings after disappointing his following!

What I saw of the Beck rally was a very sad crowd, they even put a smile on my face which is hard for a conservative to do. As for Obama doesn't have the following he had then how come MSM won't show his surroundings, did you hear the crowd of people who were at Martha's Vineyard that wasn't shown on purpose? As for welfare how come liberals have to be on welfare because they want equal things for all people. You can't tell me that half of these comments are by cocaine snorting a***** who are just looking for something to do with their computers. The rally was a farce people didn't travel to Washington,D.C. to hear that garbage that Beck was spouting and not the rhetoric that comes out of his mouth on Fox News and the radio. Hell I wouldn't have travel from Washington state to show some hate and plus here it!!!!Now let's keep an eye on his ratings after disappointing his following!

What I saw of the Beck rally was a very sad crowd, they even put a smile on my face which is hard for a conservative to do. As for Obama doesn't have the following he had then how come MSM won't show his surroundings, did you hear the crowd of people who were at Martha's Vineyard that wasn't shown on purpose? As for welfare how come liberals have to be on welfare because they want equal things for all people. You can't tell me that half of these comments are by cocaine snorting a***** who are just looking for something to do with their computers. The rally was a farce people didn't travel to Washington,D.C. to hear that garbage that Beck was spouting and not the rhetoric that comes out of his mouth on Fox News and the radio. Hell I wouldn't have travel from Washington state to show some hate and plus here it!!!!Now let's keep an eye on his ratings after disappointing his following!

What I saw of the Beck rally was a very sad crowd, they even put a smile on my face which is hard for a conservative to do. As for Obama doesn't have the following he had then how come MSM won't show his surroundings, did you hear the crowd of people who were at Martha's Vineyard that wasn't shown on purpose? As for welfare how come liberals have to be on welfare because they want equal things for all people. You can't tell me that half of these comments are by cocaine snorting a***** who are just looking for something to do with their computers. The rally was a farce people didn't travel to Washington,D.C. to hear that garbage that Beck was spouting and not the rhetoric that comes out of his mouth on Fox News and the radio. Hell I wouldn't have travel from Washington state to show some hate and plus here it!!!!Now let's keep an eye on his ratings after disappointing his following!

Beck = Dreck! A loud-mouthed huckster typical of the belicose crowd on Faux News! It is unforgivable & incredible that members of the press uniformly voted to give Faux News the center front chair in the White House press room after the mouth of old lady of the press corps mouth got her removed after a career of many years. They thus validated a twisted political platform for the right wing that just used the wrong-headed ruling by Bush Supreme Court (also a skewed right platform)to give a million plus $$ to the GOP Campaign. Fair & Balanced????? For Shame!!!What have we come to??????

I can't imagine why anyone would accept a Mormon telling them what Christianity really is about. I wouldn't try to explain to a Mormon what Mormonism is about. I also don't believe that President Obama is a Muslim or a fan of black liberation theology. It takes a lot of nerve and no actual knowledge for Glen Beck to presume he knows what the President or anyone else is "really" thinking. What a lot of heat and no light at all. The rally seemed to be devoid of any actual soldiers or veterans. It is so easy to be a chcken hawk, why risk your life when you can cheer others on who take all the risk. I have found it amazing when speaking with family members who have served in Iraq and Afghanistan how many of our soldiers and veterans don't share Glen Becks beliefs or narrow vision of America.
Don't ever let let anyone tell you what someone else believes. Ask them yourself. Don't make assumptions. Respect yourself an others. It is the basis of a civil and democratic society. the rest of this is just hot air.

You can be liberal, Christian, Democrat or Republican and believe that our President is doing his best to help our country get back on it's feet after 8 years of disastrous economic and foreign policies that promoted welfare for the wealthy and Wall Street, and promoted privatizing profit for the fat cats and socializing risk so the wealthy never have to take a financial hit for their bad economic decisions, and sent our country to war for a lie about WMD. It is a Republican idea that the taxpayer should bail out Wall Street. Don't ever forget that.

From the age of 10, I was privileged to attend some of the best private schools in America. (Sorry, ceefer66, I learned how to spell 'elitist' at that age, unlike you). I enjoy meeting educated people, but I learn so much, everyday, from people who didn't have half the opportunities I had. I've always detested elitist brats, and the current crop of Obama/Pelosi/Reid types are arrogant and detestable.

I deplore elitist brats because I grew up with them and know them too well. I was a published critic of George W. Bush. I may have disagreed with him, but I don't consider George W. Bush an elitist.

As a man, I always prefer that an adversary considers me to be stupid. And, so you do.

Good luck, ceefer66!

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This, coming from someone whose name is a combination of the things we expel from our bodies!

No thoughts are clearer to others than those of the pseudo patriots at the all white Glen Beck rally. It is obvious that they want to restore Nordic Power and enslave those who they imagine to be low bred mongrels. But in todays world where nuclear bombs are possessed by all races their return to old world power is impossible.

Maistrolm August 29, 2010 11:11 AM said: "And the real clincher is this: the Founders did not in any way recognize Christianity as the means by which this nation should be governed, nor even as a sort of universally-interpreted means by which the PEOPLE of America should live their lives."

John Hancock said "...to cause the benign religion of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ to be known, understood, and practiced among all the inhabitants of the earth." John Hancock, Proclamation for a Day of Thanksgiving and Praise, September 16, 1790, from an original broadside in our possession.

Obviously John Hancock felt that not only the "People of America" should live their lives according to the religion of Jesus Christ, but everyone on earth should.

And if you hate "elitist brats" so much, why did you twice elect George W. Bush?

You hate "elistists", but you want to lower their taxes? Explain that.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

And you wonder why we think you're stupid.

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Dearest ceefer66,

From the age of 10, I was privileged to attend some of the best private schools in America. (Sorry, ceefer66, I learned how to spell 'elitist' at that age, unlike you). I enjoy meeting educated people, but I learn so much, everyday, from people who didn't have half the opportunities I had. I've always detested elitist brats, and the current crop of Obama/Pelosi/Reid types are arrogant and detestable.

I deplore elitist brats because I grew up with them and know them too well. I was a published critic of George W. Bush. I may have disagreed with him, but I don't consider George W. Bush an elitist.

As a man, I always prefer that an adversary considers me to be stupid. And, so you do.

All religions, including Christianity and Islam, are based on redemption of a supreme being (or maybe interference by space beings) and are therefore urban legend - there's no scientific evidence to prove the allegations of the holy books. Others, such as Judaism, are margin notes of the history of a people who actually lived.

L. Ron Hubbard understood that religion was legend. He was on a late night t.v. show and said he could a new religion right there and now. And he did. Scientology.

Wilkie Collins also understood. He wrote Moonstone. In the book the butler thinks of a question he wants answered, opens Robinson Crusoe and points to a passage. His question is always answered.

Think about this: Glenn, Palin et al. are to Christianity what Ben Laden is to Islam.
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It is beyond is disgusting for Martin Luther King's historic speech to be hijacked by the guy who called the first president to realize King's dream a racist. And shame on the MSM for even engaging in discussions of Beck's ego trip in the same breath with Dr. King's speech.

Then this out-and-out demagogue goes on Fox this morning and — finally, after more than a year — says he "regrets" calling Obama a racist and tries to explain himself. Please. First of all, Glenn, your regrets should be stated directly to the man upon whom you visited this outrageous insult, not the empty suits at Fox and their (can't think of a printable word) viewers. Second, this is a classic 21st-century apology. Phony regret, based largely on the consequences of the statement, months later, when his hateful words have had a chance to germinate with his fellow-racist followers.

At least he did say one correct thing on Fox — the first accurate thing he's ever said, so far as I'm aware: he has no intention of running for president, because he's "unelectable." Ya think? (At least, unlike Half-governor Palin, he recognizes it.)

Beck and Palin had their date on The Mall...hope they had a good time. But...while they are shrieking about preserving our constitution and promoting our freedoms, they implied we should get back to religion (what happened to separation of church and state?) and Beck ordered there could be no signs displayed (what happened to freedom of speech?) Just wondering...

All religions, including Christianity and Islam, are based on redemption of a supreme being (or maybe interference by space beings) and are therefore urban legend - there's no scientific evidence to prove the allegations of the holy books. Others, such as Judaism, are margin notes of the history of people who actually lived. People continue to follow the rules of their particular writings because they are ignorant - the books were for those times, not these. Do what Wilkie Collins writes about in Moonstone: open Robinson Crusoe and point to a passage - the book is an oracle.

Oh Great! Now the Beckster is an expert on Christian theology. Was Jesus just kidding when he talked about helping he poor and the weak or "not throwing the first stone"? I'm sorry, but I will not accept a lecture on my faith from an LDS alcoholic, false prophet.

Saudi Prince al-Walid bin Talal who owns Fox News is happy with the right-winger rebellion. Says profits from the event and viewers will be used to generate understanding and improve US-Muslim relations.

Why wont anybody in the media just spell out the truth? Beck's rally made absolutely no sense. It was a confusing mix of themes that had nothing to do with each other. Although these are all nice topics that no one would put down, Dr. King's message had nothing to do with war veterans or conservatism. He did no honor to the Dr. or his message, actually he insulted it. Like wise, I don't see how cutting down our elected president has anything to do with democracy or Christian faith. Beck threw this mish mosh of "lovable" topics together to apease "stupid" people and pump up his own popularity and career.

Minorities and non-christens-Jews-Mormons are slowly eroding the Judeo-Christian foundations of America. A lot of minorities and lower-class underachievers are getting a free at the expense of hard working people.

Everyone should have an equal shot and Anglo-Saxons are getting the shaft. They need to take back America and make it just.

54465446 wrote: "In short folks, it is easier to find a church or synagogue in Saudi Arabia than a military veteran at Fox!"

Isn't it nice when those who haven't served in the military respect those who have served?

I've heard many pundits and reporters, both liberal and conservative, say that although they hadn't served in the military, they respect those that volunteered to put their lives on the line for our country?

I don't see anything wrong with that?

But isn't it MORE than that Janet? Aren't the people at Fox actively using jingoist patriotism to disaparage others? Doesn't it matter if you in fact practice what you preach? How can Beck, and by extension the others at Fox, pretend to be all these things they're not so successfully?

"I understand Obama's hesitancy in not wanting to take the bait and start a fighting Civil War...but with Republicans today I think a real shooting war might be necessary. I personally have my guns ready as a liberal Democrat to defend MY America against this riffraff (which includes, sadly, the WP)."

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The only Democrats who know how to use guns are in the inner cities of America. Liberals don't know how to use weapons.

DHS warned us to watch out for returning war veterans - they may be easy recruits for right-wing militias.

Sounds like DHS should have looked to the liberals in America.

God help us if liberals actually started attacking directly. How do you defend yourself against people bent on becoming martyrs?

I realize McVeigh was a Gulf War veteran, but wasn't he also a Democrat? lol

Ah, let's just vote out all of Congress, repeal all the historical spending and reduce, not increase, the federal deficit. Then let's work on restoring America's honor and integrity after the 2012 election.

Nobody's version of Christianity has a chance unless it takes seriously:

LOVE YOUR ENEMIES. DO GOOD TO THOSE THAT HATE YOU. PRAY FOR THOSE THAT DESPITEFULLY USE YOU, that you may be children of your heavenly Father; for he makes his rain to fall on the just and the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax-collectors do the same? And if you greet only the members of your own family, what are you doing more than anybody else? Do not even the heathen do the same? Be perfect, therefore, even as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Anybody who is even TRYING to live up to those words of Jesus has my respect and deserves the name of a Christian.

MLK Jr. was certainly trying, and look where it got him. Assassinated.

Beck? Palin? are you sincerely trying to live in this way? Left? Right? anybody?

Glenn Beck's 'Restoring Honor' event raised over $5 million for the Special Operations Warriors Foundation (SOWF).

My fellow Americans, we do have heroes serving us, despite what we may think today of our elected leaders. Let the elitist brats, like Barack Obama and many on this site, eat their lobster and spew their venom while American heroes sacrifice for our freedoms with their lives and blood.

The day of reckoning is soon approaching. America has awakened.

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Why do you people resent educated people so much?

And if you hate "elitist brats" so much, why did you twice elect George W. Bush?

You hate "elistists", but you want to lower their taxes? Explain that.

Glenn Beck's 'Restoring Honor' event raised over $5 million for the Special Operations Warriors Foundation (SOWF).

My fellow Americans, we do have heroes serving us, despite what we may think today of our elected leaders. Let the elitist brats, like Barack Obama and many on this site, eat their lobster and spew their venom while American heroes sacrifice for our freedoms with their lives and blood.

The day of reckoning is soon approaching. America has awakened.

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Why do you people resent educated people so much?

And if you hate "elitist brats" so much, why did you twice elect George W. Bush?

You hate "elistists", but you want to lower their taxes? Explain that.

"There is magic on Glenn and one must wander what is it that makes him connect with people."

"Liberals, socialists, marxists, that have taken control, we warn you that you will be thoroughly rejected and in a peaceful way, with the power of our vote."

"Glenn has taken us on a true journey of the real HOPE and CHANGE that we expected and we never received."

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Is there more than one Glenn Beck or are you talking about the same Glenn Beck who uses his time on the air to wonder aloud whether he should kill a liberal provacateur himself or hire someone to do it? (See my 1:16 post)

That would also be the same Glenn Beck who called the father of Nick Berg a "scumbag" shortly after terrorists in Iraq released the video of his son being beheaded because Mr. Berg dared to voice an opinion that Glenn Beck disagrees with.

For Glenn Beck to take anyone on journey of HOPE and CHANGE, it would indeed have to be magic.

I'm still waiting for a leading Republican to call for the repeal of TARP and the Stimulus and reset the economy as it was in late 2008. Any takers?

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While you're at it, why not go back to 2005 when the Republicans last had control of Congress?

Wait! Let's go back to August 2001 BEFORE 9/11.

Wait! Let's go back to the Cole bombing and let the FBI's Counter Terrorism Task Force, headed by John O'Neill, do its job instead of the Democrat ambassador to Yemen refusing them access to the country and the investigation. Maybe then we could have stopped 9/11!

Wait! Let's go back to 1998 when Clinton could have authorized Delta force to take out bin Laden. Maybe bin Laden's death would have stopped 9/11.

Ah, let's just vote out all of Congress, repeal all the historical spending and reduce, not increase, the federal deficit. Then let's work on restoring America's honor and integrity after the 2012 election.

I seriously object to the fact this article was ever written and printed by the Post. It says nothing about nothing only to serve to purpose of the snake-oil salesman marketing stupid, ignorant, Republican theology.

Washington asserted the powers of the federal government to stamp out the Whiskey Rebellion when the Republic was brand new. Democrats must use the power of the presidency and federal government to stamp out this totally fictive ideological movement--the Republican Party--for exactly what they are: Timothy McVeigh terrorists!

I understand Obama's hesitancy in not wanting to take the bait and start a fighting Civil War...but with Republicans today I think a real shooting war might be necessary. I personally have my guns ready as a liberal Democrat to defend MY America against this riffraff (which includes, sadly, the WP).

Glenn Beck's 'Restoring Honor' event raised over $5 million for the Special Operations Warriors Foundation (SOWF).

My fellow Americans, we do have heroes serving us, despite what we may think today of our elected leaders. Let the elitist brats, like Barack Obama and many on this site, eat their lobster and spew their venom while American heroes sacrifice for our freedoms with their lives and blood.

This is not a Christina nation. There were many agnostics and freethinkers among the founding fathers. It is a multi-cultural nation, and many of its citizens have always been non-Christians, or Christians that Beck would not recognize, in his narrow view of the faith. Mormons or Unitarians, for example.

There is no indication Christians are any more or less moral than other people, either.

Perhaps Beck and his followers want to re-write history, but that doesn't make it true.

I think conservatives (the rube variety in particular), mistake the word "liberal" for the word "intelligent". Yes, it is true that "intelligent" people do not believe in the Christian God any more than they believe in other archaic myths like Santa Claus or the bogeyman. Intelligent people are able to use reason when evaluating Christianity, and can recognize that creation myth has existed in every culture at every point in human history--and it's just one more religion in a long line of them stretching back to the beginning of human history,no more factual, provable, believable, or true than any of the numerous rest.

To think differently demonstrates an incredibly tiny worldview, an inability to observe factual evidence and draw rational conclusions, and a general inability to deal with real life on real terms. I know that's not PC to say, and could be considered as disrespectful, but lets be real. Fervent believers range from drooling stupid to bat-guano crazy.

Unfortunately, neither political party has a lock on general dumbness, so we, as Americans, still argue over a one-in-a-sea-of-thousands myth invented by goat herders a few millenia ago, when people thought the earth was flat and praying a lot controlled the weather. Religion is for morons, of any political persuasion.

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GO AHEAD. Sharpen it. Put a point on it. Aim your criticisms of religion directly at the Religion of Islam.
I want to see "just how brave" you are.
Do you remember the Journalist who was murdered in France, or The Netherlands, a few months ago??
He too, was "brave" and outspoken.
You're opinionated, and outspoken.
Show us, you're brave.
Dennis

Anyone dumb enough to believe that Glen Beck is some sort of holy man deserves to be exploited by him. He is a con man with a talent for manipulating the stupidest people in the country, just like all other self-proclaimed holy men. Neither he nor they are holier than anybody.

Mr. Obama needs to learn a lesson that social justice and black liberation theology DOES NOT work in this country. This is nothing more than a perversion of our values and indeed it was not the message that Martin Luther King spoke so valiantly about.

"We are getting back to valuing individual freedoms and responsibilities. For it is the individual who controls their destiny in this country and not the social collectivity as believed by Obama and all his socialist followers. That experiment has failed and we are about to change course."

What would be an example of the social collectivity that you are speaking of?

"As a psychologist Beck and Palin are sick as Bush. Bush and Beck are alcoholics and Palin probably an emotionally abused child. We have to stop giving these type of people a platform to project their dysfunction upon the world."

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Funny how you haters are selective.

Obama's mother was a white girl out of Kansas who was impregnated by a married father from Kenya when she was 18.

Obama never had his sperm donor father around, and the man his mother married in Indonesia didn't want the half-black around, so he was sent to live with his white grandparents.

Talk about abandonment issues. And there's no probably in "probably an emotionally abused child". He was a mixed race kid when society rejected mixed race kids, and had no parents to call his own growing up - he was rejected by BOTH.

So when he's president, on the Census he puts down "black", not "other", not "biracial". His white mother and grandparents never existed.

As for addictions, obama and his coke days come straight from his own mouth. His biological father was well known to be an alcoholic, which may explain why obama rarely drinks while president.

So before you make claims and try to tar and feather Gov. Palin and Beck, look to facts.

Oh. But that doesn't suit your political agenda or your hate. Never mind.

Glenn Beck's event at the Lincoln Memorial was totally resonating with many, many americans. Estimates of attendees are 300-500,000 and viewers on Facebook approx. 150,000 and double that on C-Span. I don't have an account on other radio stations that broadcasted it, but I think that altogether we can say viewership was about 1 million.

For anyone who watched I can say that the event was quite inclusive, sincere and remarkable in how peaceful and organized it was.

There is magic on Glenn and one must wander what is it that makes him connect with people. There is no denying that our America is at a crossroads and we are in grave danger of losing our identity because the party in power and followers are on a stubborn transformational journey of social justice and reparations that goes against all of the principles and legacy left by our forefathers.

Glenn Beck's message was one of EQUAL Justice for all and INDIVIDUAL responsibility and that is why it connects with many americans. It is time to regain our country from the abyss where it highjacked by liberals with a socialist agenda that caused a left turn on our destiny.

For those of you who are against our core values, let me advise you that there is a great re-awakening and everything under our power will be done to change the course of our destiny and get back on track.

For you see, we are very patient because we know the greatness of this country, but there comes a point where we will intercede and stop any currents that want to change our country away from our core values.

Liberals, socialists, marxists, that have taken control, we warn you that you will be thoroughly rejected and in a peaceful way, with the power of our vote.

Glenn has taken us on a true journey of the real HOPE and CHANGE that we expected and we never received.

Mr. Obama needs to start focusing on getting another job, because come Nov. 2012 he will be fired. And his political life will be totally miserable come Nov. 2010 when he will lose control of Congress.

Mr. Obama needs to learn a lesson that social justice and black liberation theology DOES NOT work in this country. This is nothing more than a perversion of our values and indeed it was not the message that Martin Luther King spoke so valiantly about.

We are getting back to valuing individual freedoms and responsibilities. For it is the individual who controls their destiny in this country and not the social collectivity as believed by Obama and all his socialist followers. That experiment has failed and we are about to change course.

Let's prepare for our peaceful revolution through the power of our vote!

exco,regarding Beck's arrangment with SOWF, it should also be pointed out that the American taxpayer subsidized the cost of this rally since the money collected by SOWF is eligible for a tax deduction from the big, bad government.

As a psychologist Beck and Palin are sick as Bush. Bush and Beck are alcoholics and Palin probably an emotionally abused child. We have to stop giving these type of people a platform to project their dysfunction upon the world. bin-Laden is enough for anyone to deal with.

The American Heritage Medical Dictionary gives an accurate definition of the Tea Party/Beck cult type:

Authoritarian Personality

A personality pattern reflecting a desire for security, order, power, and status, with a desire for structured lines of authority, a conventional set of values or outlook, a demand for unquestioning obedience, and a tendency to be hostile toward or use as scapegoats individuals of minority or nontraditional groups.

I can honestly say Obama is not a Christian. He exhibits no Christian values. He and his cronies lied, hid behind closed doors, hid the bills, offered fraudulent numbers in support of bills, double talked, creates division, promotes hatred and false class envy, creates fear, creates chaos, milks and promotes a crisis, offered a no jokes stimulus padding the upward palms of special interest when thousands of young families struggled and pushed a health care takeover that no one wanted that will cost more not less. I can assure you this is not a Christian. He can call himself anything he wants but that does not make it so. He sat for years in a so called church that preached hate and fraudulent liberation theology.
Obama could worship a rock behind the door. If your words do not match your actions people just tune you out and turn you off. It just does not matter anymore. He is political toast and deserves to be.

Equal ecconomic justice is the right call, and King made it. One cannot serve two masters, as Jesus said. If people will part with what they most love (money) then Jesus is at work. It can be no other way.

Beck and Palin are a mockery of America and we pray their way will never be.

"You " gotta " be smarter and more educated than Beck or Palin in order to know what frauds and blithering idiots they are..."

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For those of us not as smart and "more educated" as Koom, here's the translation of his message:

Shut up you American serfs. Submit to your masters because you are too ignorant to think for yourselves. That's the Obama, Pelosi, Reid way. ("We have to pass the bill so you can find out what's in it.")

Sorry, Koom: We may not be as smart and as 'edumacated' as you think you are, but we, the dirty masses, weren't born yesterday. In fact, I invite Barry Soetoro (and Koom) to challenge my education any hour of any day.

Bottom line: Koom, your days and the left's are numbered. The days of government by imbeciles are coming to a close.

OK. I can't resist explaining how the relationship between the Beck rally and the Special Operations Warrior Foundation actually works. This is not a criticism of SOWF. I have just donated to the charity myself. Its just an exhortation to be careful HOW you make the donation.

From what Beck has said publicly, one would think that there is a pot of money that will be used to pay for the rally and once all expenses are paid, anything left over would be donated to SOWF. In addition, Beck has asked people to donate to SOWF.

If that's what you thought, you'd be wrong. In fact, under the arrangement between Beck and SOWF, the cost of Beck's rally is actually coming out of the donations being made to SOWF.

Not convinced? Go to Glenn Beck's website for the rally (www.glennbeck.com/828/) and click on a link that says:

"If you would like to donate to their (SOWF) cause you can do so online here."

When you click on that link it will take you to a not to the SOWF website but to a "Restoring Honor" Rally donation page. Read the fine print at the bottom of the page. It says "All contributions made to the Special Operations Warrior Foundation will first be applied to the costs of the Restoring Honor Rally taking place on August 28, 2010."

SOWF has made quite a bit of money under the arrangement, so no harm done in that sense. However, would it not be a bit more accurate for the donation link to say say:

"If you would like to help me pay for the Restoring Honor Rally click here. Some of the proceeds from donations received will go to SOWF."

I have no trust in the news media. They report stories according to the best payout for themselves. I understand the Fox News money making machine (money, money, money). It works, its Democracy, but I don not agree with it. As an American, I am ashamed of our politicians. Greed makes a lot of stuff work. Power and brains does not often mix to well. Beck reminds me of Jim Jones. Is it possible that a lot of people may second guess themselves if supporting the Beck ideology. USA is not simple anymore.

Equal ecconomic justice is the right call, and King made it. One cannot serve tow master, as Jesus said. If people will part with what they most love (money) then Jesus is at work. It can be no other way.

Beck and Palin are a mockery of America and we pray their way will never be.

What alternate universe do liberals live in? There has not been such a divisive administration for decades. That is how liberals win - not through facts, not through the truth, but through lies and by fueling the politics of hate and envy.

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Really?? Talk about lies. The truth is that this all started with the televising of the House of Representatives on C-SPAN. Whereas before members of Congress were relatively partisan in their home districts and comparatively less partisan in Washington, after the TV cameras went into the chamber things became much more extreme. Members of Congress (Newt Gingrich being chief among them) used Special Orders speeches on C-SPAN to show off their conservative credentials and rail on and on when virtually no one was in the chamber. He used these speeches to catipult himself and the right wing of the Republican Party to the forefront of Republican politics.

Then when Bill Clinton was elected President in 1992, he had a foil to aim his barbs at. Then when you had people on the right wing of the Republican Party like Richard Mellon Scaife throwing independent money at everything from the Paula Jones suit to intrigue into Vince Foster's suicide, it's no wonder the power brokers on the Democratic side wanted to the same thing when George W. Bush was elected.

Not to mention the creation of districts following the 1990 and 2000 censuses that were more solidly Republican or Democrat, which in turn meant that the members of Congress and state legislatures had less incentive to be bipartisan.

What alternate universe do liberals live in? There has not been such a divisive administration for decades. That is how liberals win - not through facts, not through the truth, but through lies and by fueling the politics of hate and envy.

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Really?? Talk about lies. The truth is that this all started with the televising of the House of Representatives on C-SPAN. Whereas before members of Congress were relatively partisan in their home districts and comparatively less partisan in Washington, after the TV cameras went into the chamber things became much more extreme. Members of Congress (Newt Gingrich being chief among them) used Special Orders speeches on C-SPAN to show off their conservative credentials and rail on and on when virtually no one was in the chamber. He used these speeches to catipult himself and the right wing of the Republican Party to the forefront of Republican politics.

Then when Bill Clinton was elected President in 1992, he had a foil to aim his barbs at. Then when you had people on the right wing of the Republican Party like Richard Mellon Scaife throwing independent money at everything from the Paula Jones suit to intrigue into Vince Foster's suicide, it's no wonder the power brokers on the Democratic side wanted to the same thing when George W. Bush was elected.

Not to mention the creation of districts following the 1990 and 2000 censuses that were more solidly Republican or Democrat, which in turn meant that the members of Congress and state legislatures had less incentive to be bipartisan.

Did anyone see anything OTHER than "White" faces at the Glenn Beck rally? As a radio caller who left a message on WTOP on Friday said, "It was gonna be nothing but a Klan rally without the white hoods."

Look. This is not complicated at all. Glenn Beck is nothing more than a dry drunk and a shill for corporate America as worshipped by his boss, Rupert Murdoch and the slime-bag Koch brothers.

Palin is a dimwit who when asked two years ago, didn't know why there is a North Korea and a South Korea, even though her son (or some other relative) was shipping out for the DMZ.

I keep going back to a premise put forth more than a year ago about tea baggers and the thugs they worship: If Barack Obama is white, there is no tea bag movement whatsoever.

A white numb skull, GWB, started our downward spiral with a trillion dollar war against a third-rate punk thug named Saddam, who represented NO threat to anyone. GWB also started the bailouts when he finally saw the train wreck he and that windbag Cheney created with that murderous invasion.

Where were the tea baggers when we maimed or killed more than a quarter million Iraqis -- all but a handful of them civilians? And upwards of 40,000 Americans????

Where were the tea baggers when GWB was sleeping with those Enron goon thieves?

Where were the tea baggers when GWB pushed tax breaks for the top one half of one percent of all Republicans, and screw everyone else?

Where were the tea baggers when that twit strutted around on an aircraft carrier like some bantam rooster crowing about "Mission Accomplished?"

Glenn Beck's event at the Lincoln Memorial was totally resonating with many, many americans. Estimates of attendees are 300-500,000 and viewers on Facebook approx. 150,000 and double that on C-Span. I don't have an account on other radio stations that broadcasted it, but I think that altogether we can say viewership was about 1 million.

For anyone who watched I can say that the event was quite inclusive, sincere and remarkable in how peaceful and organized it was.

There is magic on Glenn and one must wander what is it that makes him connect with people. There is no denying that our America is at a crossroads and we are in grave danger of losing our identity because the party in power and followers are on a stubborn transformational journey of social justice and reparations that goes against all of the principles and legacy left by our forefathers.

Glenn Beck's message was one of EQUAL Justice for all and INDIVIDUAL responsibility and that is why it connects with many americans. It is time to regain our country from the abyss where it highjacked by liberals with a socialist agenda that caused a left turn on our destiny.

For those of you who are against our core values, let me advise you that there is a great re-awakening and everything under our power will be done to change the course of our destiny and get back on track.

For you see, we are very patient because we know the greatness of this country, but there comes a point where we will intercede and stop any currents that want to change our country away from our core values.

Liberals, socialists, marxists, that have taken control, we warn you that you will be thoroughly rejected and in a peaceful way, with the power of our vote.

Glenn has taken us on a true journey of the real HOPE and CHANGE that we expected and we never received.

Mr. Obama needs to start focusing on getting another job, because come Nov. 2012 he will be fired. And his political life will be totally miserable come Nov. 2010 when he will lose control of Congress.

Mr. Obama needs to learn a lesson that social justice and black liberation theology DOES NOT work in this country. This is nothing more than a perversion of our values and indeed it was not the message that Martin Luther King spoke so valiantly about.

We are getting back to valuing individual freedoms and responsibilities. For it is the individual who controls their destiny in this country and not the social collectivity as believed by Obama and all his socialist followers. That experiment has failed and we are about to change course.

Let's prepare for our peaceful revolution through the power of our vote!

For poor countries, Global warming damages affects Millions of people. Send the Bill to the Coal Industry. When they try and bill the public, people will invest in Clean Energy and save Trillions while creating millions of manufacturing jobs. Kick Coal to the Curb.

Fossil Fuel Lobbyists and investors: How is that Oil spill, Flood, Tornado, and Biblical Tropical Storms in Louisiana, Alabama, Arkansas, Texas, Florida, Kentucky, and Tennessee working out for you? How about that 1000 year flooding in Nashville and that Camp ground in Arkansas? Good times huh?

The Drill-Baby-Drill and Tea Party Crowd has little empathy for anyone else, yet is quick to ask for Federal Welfare when there is an Oil spill, Flood, Tornado, or Tropical Storm etc., in their Backyard as is happening right now in Louisiana, Alabama, Texas, Florida, Kentucky, and Tennessee. No empathy for the Unemployed as a result of Wall Street Greed. No empathy for parents denied medical insurance because their children are sick. No empathy for the Poisoning of families living near Coal mining operations. No empathy for communities facing Flooding and Tornadoes because of Global Warming, and No empathy for other communities facing Oil spills because of Oil and Coal industry defeat of Safety regulations.

I wonder how Beck feels taking millions of dollars from American Corporations to mislead his followers? And Beck does not even tell his followers he supports taking away their Social Security and Medicare.

You " gotta " be smarter and more educated than Beck or Palin in order to know what frauds and blithering idiots they are and that they are just cashing in on fools . Tea baggers (and Reich wingers) who claim to be Christians would be well advised to pick up their Bibles , if they have one , and actually read the New testament , the words of Jesus in particular , evidently they never pick the book up . Try reading the warnings about the frauds and charlatans , the deceivers and being deceived , about hate , love and charity . Limbaugh , Beck , Boehner , Pence , McConnell , Ginrich ,Cheney , Savage , Coulter ... yessirreeeee , real genuine Christians , the is the family values Christian party ! LOL . I have some ocean front property in South Dakota to sell you people , real cheap ! If you think that the Reich wing / Republican party has a monopoly and a lock on religion , on Christianity , on God and on believers and Democrats / liberals are all atheists who approve of abortion and gay marriage , you are a blind fool , you bought into the right wing lies and took the bait , hook line and sinker , read your Bibles and actually think for yourselves for once . There is a real good reason the founding fathers wanted to keep politics and the state separate from religion , we are seeing what happens when politicians get hold of religion and Christians , it's disgraceful and despicable to use Christians , Christianity and Jesus Christ to further their warped and wicked political agenda but that's what they are doing and the blind fools , some who are sincere , good and decent people , fall for it right and left . The Nazi party and Hitler used the church and Christians too , too late did they realize what and who they had fallen for and what they had done .

You " gotta " be smarter and more educated than Beck or Palin in order to know what frauds and blithering idiots they are and that they are just cashing in on fools . Tea baggers (and Reich wingers) who claim to be Christians would be well advised to pick up their Bibles , if they have one , and actually read the New testament , the words of Jesus in particular , evidently they never pick the book up . Try reading the warnings about the frauds and charlatans , the deceivers and being deceived , about hate , love and charity . Limbaugh , Beck , Boehner , Pence , McConnell , Ginrich ,Cheney , Savage , Coulter ... yessirreeeee , real genuine Christians , the is the family values Christian party ! LOL . I have some ocean front property in South Dakota to sell you people , real cheap ! If you think that the Reich wing / Republican party has a monopoly and a lock on religion , on Christianity , on God and on believers and Democrats / liberals are all atheists who approve of abortion and gay marriage , you are a blind fool , you bought into the right wing lies and took the bait , hook line and sinker , read your Bibles and actually think for yourselves for once . There is a real good reason the founding fathers wanted to keep politics and the state separate from religion , we are seeing what happens when politicians get hold of religion and Christians , it's disgraceful and despicable to use Christians , Christianity and Jesus Christ to further their warped and wicked political agenda but that's what they are doing and the blind fools , some who are sincere , good and decent people , fall for it right and left . The Nazi party and Hitler used the church and Christians too , too late did they realize what and who they had fallen for and what they had done .

Goldline International is under investigation by the Santa Monica City Attorney’s office, jointly with the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s office, as well as being the subject of a separate investigation by Congress into the possible criminal practices. The firm has been the subject of an ABC Nightline News Exposé, as well as an investigation by NY Congressman Weiner).

Goldline is using the hyperbolic -- and at times fear-inducing -- speech of right wing nutjobs like Beck to encourage customers to buy the precious metal at highly-inflated prices.

I come from a rational universe where people don't accept speeches from political commentators as "the truth". It was people like you who accepted Bush and Cheney's tales of WMDs as the "the truth" also.

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I never voted for either Bush for president as I just could not trust them, but when both parties rubber stamped with approval the Iraq invasion, I thought they had checked and knew what they were voting on.
Now in the days of Pelosie's "pass the bill and read it later," I know better.
How can I trust Democrats who promised lies about health care and passed a bill that only made a bad situation a hundred times worse? What is to keep them from making things still worse in the future with that record?
This bunch of Dems needs to go. They are worthless. Bring in new Dems that actually read and care about US citizens, not some weird communist Nirvana agenda and then I will vote Dem again if Repubs are still crap too.

Does it matter at all to you, Washington Post, that this man Beck is bankrupting America's moral and intellectual resources? That he wants to turn back to a golden age of "God" and "Slavery"? Pre-Lincoln even there was never this model.

You give him more ink than the President. Bush or Obama are not the issue. What is at issue is the moral and intellectual bankruptcy of all living Conservatives and 100% of elected Republicans. The Washington Post's cowardice for not throwing Fox News, Murdock, Palin in the trash every single day IS the story!

I think conservatives (the rube variety in particular), mistake the word "liberal" for the word "intelligent". Yes, it is true that "intelligent" people do not believe in the Christian God any more than they believe in other archaic myths like Santa Claus or the bogeyman. Intelligent people are able to use reason when evaluating Christianity, and can recognize that creation myth has existed in every culture at every point in human history--and it's just one more religion in a long line of them stretching back to the beginning of human history,no more factual, provable, believable, or true than any of the numerous rest.

To think differently demonstrates an incredibly tiny worldview, an inability to observe factual evidence and draw rational conclusions, and a general inability to deal with real life on real terms. I know that's not PC to say, and could be considered as disrespectful, but lets be real. Fervent believers range from drooling stupid to bat-guano crazy.

Unfortunately, neither political party has a lock on general dumbness, so we, as Americans, still argue over a one-in-a-sea-of-thousands myth invented by goat herders a few millenia ago, when people thought the earth was flat and praying a lot controlled the weather. Religion is for morons, of any political persuasion.

From Founding Father Thomas Jefferson:
"And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."

TJ makes Glen Beck look like a dust mote in a stupid storm.

Posted by: robertell | August 29, 2010 2:40 PM
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YOU REALLY THINK SO ???
I'll take the morals, character, and integrity, of the current Glenn Beck over Jefferson, any day.
Thomas Jefferson, a Good??, wise, and accomplished man, of his day.
He "still" held slaves until the day of his death.
"Theoretically," Thomas Jefferson reasoned that Blacks should "not" be held in perpetual slavery. He even sought legislation that could've abolished slavery, sometime, in the future, conceivably, after his demise.
I'll go along with that.
I'll give you everything I have. After I'm dead.
Jefferson "never" considered the possibility that Blacks might be "equal" to whites, he did claim, wrote, and said that they "should be freed."
The attitude is apparently congentital. Only in the past decade, have the White offspring of Jefferson deigned to consider, and acknowledge, that his Black descendants, are actually related to the white ones.
If you're black, are you going to choose Jefferson, over Glenn Beck??
Dennis

What alternate universe do liberals live in? There has not been such a divisive administration for decades. That is how liberals win - not through facts, not through the truth, but through lies and by fueling the politics of hate and envy.

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I come from a rational universe where people don't accept speeches from political commentators as "the truth". It was people like you who accepted Bush and Cheney's tales of WMDs as the "the truth" also.

What alternate universe do liberals live in? There has not been such a divisive administration for decades. That is how liberals win - not through facts, not through the truth, but through lies and by fueling the politics of hate and envy.

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I come from a rational universe where people don't accept speeches from political commentators as "the truth". It was people like you who accepted Bush and Cheney's tales of WMDs as the "the truth" also.

Beck and his followers worship at the alter of Koch (pronounced "coke") not Christ. They're all Kochheads. And if you don't know who the Kochs are, I suggest you read Jane Mayer's piece ("Covert Operations") in the New Yorker. A government of the people, by the people, and for the people is anathema to people like the Kochs who believe their wealth entitles them to a disproportionate share of power. That is Beck's version of Christianity, and I'm so relieved that it is not the President's.

What a tangled Web we weave, when we try to Deceive. For the ‘current’ GOP the question is always;

* How can I pass Oil, Coal, and Gas Pollution and Poisons onto the Public without paying for it?
* How can I allow Wall Street Banks to Risk and gamble people’s life savings while awarding itself Billions?
* How can I ensure Health Insurance companies continue to Gouge the Consumer with administrative overhead and duplicate procedures so I can get more campaign contributions?
* How can I keep people Unemployed while Obama is in office and Stop and Delay Clean Energy Jobs legislation and keep people from using less Oil?

How…How…How….Eureka…I’ll just block and say NO to any meaningful reform and Weaken anything that passes so I can attack it later…-or-…call it an Evil Energy Tax so Pollution can continue unabated to be paid for by the Public while I take the Profits. An Evil Tax is much worse, much for Fearful than a little Poison or CO2 that you cannot see.... High Five…..Fist Pump….Flying Chest Bump!!!

As another proof of how right-wing US Media is consider the FACT that they have covered this Beck guys rally on the Mall almost wall to wall, I mean CSPAN even covered it live from start to end, yet the same US Media barely mentioned a LARGER rally against the Iraq War in 2003 on the same Washington DC mall. That is even though almost 200,000 people rallied against the Iraq War in March 2003 CNN barely gave it a 1 second mention, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, etc. barely gave it a paragraph, etc. etc. near total black out of that rally.

And also keep this in mind that whereas this psycho Beck's rally was funded by 1000s of Hours of brain washing talk (so called News) on Fixed news and his Radio shows, the anti Iraq war rallies in Washington DC in 2003 were all based on a few Web sites passing email notifications of the rallies, which means they were totally grass root and organic whereas this psycho Beck's rally is in effect funded and backed by Billions of Dollars of Wall Street money.

People one way you can SEND A MESSAGE LOUD AND CLEAR that these lying slime bags like Beck and the Republican lunatics that they represent are not going to Hijack our Government again for the benefit of the very rich (aka Wall Street gang) is to help defeat John Boehner.

Americans, taken as a whole, are so blessed and so silly. But as the world shrinks and once distant threats become imminent dangers, bear this in mind: a republic, let alone a federal republic, cannot be sustained when it is populated by people who do not understand the concepts of "due diligence" and "self-interest rightly understood."

"No, liberals can't be God fearing. If they did then they wouldn't be pro abortion for just one example. Do you really think God condones ripping fetuses from the womb and murdering them in cold blood?

No one is pro abortion. But do you really think God condones treating a womb as if it were a machine, rather than an intimate organ, part of a human person's body? Do you think God condones treating a woman, His/Her daughter, as an incubator to be used, rather than a living person who has the same right to say yea or nay to the use of her own body as you do?

Yes, probably. Your God never has treated women as full human beings. Blastula without brain cells or nerve endings - full human being, even with rights over another person's body that no other human being ever has. Full-grown woman, with intelligence and understanding and an independent life - property, whose only value lies in her service as a nurturer for real human beings, who must be either Virgin or Mother to be worthwhile, but who deserves neither respect nor self-determination in any form.

What alternate universe do liberals live in? There has not been such a divisive administration for decades. That is how liberals win - not through facts, not through the truth, but through lies and by fueling the politics of hate and envy.

For the person who posted here that "liberals have no faith in God". Who died and left you in charge? Support your statement.

My grandmother was a Democrat, proud of it, and was as God-fearing as you can be.

A saying attributed to Samuel Johnson sums it up best:
God Himself, sir, does not propose to judge a man until his life is over.

So, I'd suggest you stop your all-inclusive opinions, such as "All Democrats", "All Liberals", etc. You have never met all of the people you talk about, and you apparently never took logic in High School. People are more varied than you think, and that probably scares the pants off of you.

The liberals will never admit to the real size of the crowd at the Beck Rally. If CBS says there were about 85,000, it must have stopped counting after 8 am! I was there and there were hundreds of thousands, not "tens" of thousands.

Read Frank Rich's column in today's NY Times 'Week in Review' Section. He restates what has been stated here many times. Glen Beck and the Tea Party are doing the work of the owners of huge multi national businesses, especially Murdoch and the Koch Brothers.

Beck and the Tea Party are espousing all the policies big business wants: no regulation, no taxes for business, no Social Security, no unemployment insurance, no public schools, no Medicare..... what they want goes on and on but what they ultimately want is a society like the Gilded Age.

Thanks to Citizens United and a Supreme Court which the corporations own, it is now going to get much more difficult to trace the money business gives and to whom they give it. In fact, speaking of the Koch brothers, we know that they have given at least 192 million dollars to right wing think tanks but we don't know the total amount they have given. Some of the information isn't public.

"He added that the Justice Department is 'certainly not doing that' in the case of the New Black Panther Party, referencing an alleged incident of voter intimidation on Election Day in 2008..."

The lying Mr. Beck wants to paint that incident as somehow reflective of the Obama administration because....he hates the Obama administration. Of course, if he weren't a serial liar he would point out that it was the Bush DOJ that decided that there was no "voter intimidation" that day in a predominately African-American voting area. At the same time, it was the Obama DOJ that actually filed a complaint and obtained a default judgment against Samir Shabazz of the New Black Panther Party for carrying a nightstick at the poling place.

Many hypocrites that claim that they want to restore America to its old time religious base are the best customers in porno shops and often are busted in houses of ill repute. Some say that they are doing the lords work by researching the powers of sin. Very few admit that they are non-believers out to have a good time.

Beck is, plain and simple, a charlatan assuming any guise and any role which will enrich him.

First, disc jockey; then radio talk show host, then political commentator and now religious advisor. Whatever it takes Beck will do the job and millions of intellectually lazy and easily manipulated Americans will follow his lead. That is easier than thinkng for yourself or using logic to figure out some of Beck's blackboard machnations.

Beck is resonataing with so many Americans now because of fear and loathing. He will continue to gain traction so long as people ar out of jobs and losing their homes; the best antidote to Beck and his fellow travelers at Fox which the Administration could apply to tone them down is an effective and meaninful national economic and fiscal policy; unfortunately, as Beck and his side have figured out the Democrats and Obama's economic team are just as bankrupt of ideas as John Boehner and his tax cut crowd.

The GOP Right Wing extremists use any divisive wedge issue; racial, religious, economic, homophobia, islamophobia to divide and weaken American while they disobey the constitution of the United States, seeking to repeal the 14th and other amendments while warping the 2nd from “(the military’s) well regulated militia” into “any Wahoo with an assault weapon”. We used to call those traitors but for them it's business as usual.

FAUX News and Republican Joe Barton Looked Ridiculous in their Defense of BP’s actions and fight against making BP Pay Reparations for their actions that resulted in the destruction of hundreds of billions of USA resources and the livelihoods of millions of Americans. Defending corporate murderers and their criminal negligence exposes the GOP and FAUX news for the dirty rich, oil and coal corporate right wing hate mongering organization that they are.

Consider the Tea Party movement. The primary funding sources for the Tea Party are Oil Industry funded conservative groups:

which receive substantial funding from Exxon Mobil, ChevronTexaco and David Koch of Koch Industries, the largest privately-held energy company in the country, and the conservative Koch Family Foundations. Koch industries are responsible for hundreds of Oil spills spread over multiple states.

The Tea Party is fighting for what's best for Wall Street Criminals, for Oil and Coal Industry Criminal negligence resulting in Deaths and Pollution, and the Policies that allow them to continue doing so Without Oversight or Regulation.

Why isn’t the Tea Party organizing and demonstrating against Industries causing the Deaths and Lost Livelihoods of Millions of Americans? Why aren't they protesting Lack of Regulation against Wall Street, Oil and Coal companies that are Killing People and caused the Financial Devastation of Millions of Americans? Why aren't they protesting against BP and Halliburton's Gross Negligence in the destruction of Multi-Billion dollar Tourism and Commercial Fishing Industries in the Gulf Coast Oil disaster?

Because the Companies Responsible is who Started, Fund and Direct Tea Party actions.

The Tea Party has a Clear Allegiance: The Rich, Oil and Coal and their ability to Pollute and Poison and dodge taxes at Public Expense while they rake in the profits.

Beck is, plain and simple, a charlatan assuming any guise and any role which will enrich him.

First, disc jockey; then radio talk show host, then political commentator and now religious advisor. Whatever it takes Beck will do the job and millions of intellectually lazy and easily manipulated Americans will follow his lead. That is easier than thinkng for yourself or using logic to figure out some of Beck's blackboard machnations.

Beck is resonataing with so many Americans now because of fear and loathing. He will continue to gain traction so long as people ar out of jobs and losing their homes; the best antidote to Beck and his fellow travelers at Fox which the Administration could apply to tone them down is an effective and meaninful national economic and fiscal policy; unfortunately, as Beck and his side have figured out the Democrats and Obama's economic team are just as bankrupt of ideas as John Boehner and his tax cut crowd.

Beck misrepresents again and again. I've viewed two transcripts of Obama speeches in a two year period and his salvation remarks are not spoken in the context of religious worship, they're coached in the context of serving others not just yourself.
Beck just wants to keep up an argument in which he ordains himself and his words in God and religion. Phony baloney Beck stuff that's all. And by the way, it extends the news cycle coverage with his name in it for the benefit of his pocket book and that of his network (the GOP infomercial - FOX).

54465446 wrote: "In short folks, it is easier to find a church or synagogue in Saudi Arabia than a military veteran at Fox!"

Isn't it nice when those who haven't served in the military respect those who have served?

I've heard many pundits and reporters, both liberal and conservative, say that although they hadn't served in the military, they respect those that volunteered to put their lives on the line for our country?

Beck is right about Obama being into black liberation theology among many other ideologies, but as an Islam ignoramus he misses the subtleties of Obama's claim to be a Christian, because he's also got connections with Black Muslims, who regularly claim to be Christians too, then add that to them Christ was a Muslim and is now a follower of Muhammad like them. Obama's speeches praising Islam as the ideal religion while simultaneously claiming to be too dumb to embrace it make any thinking person wonder whether he's really to smart to come out and admit he's really a Muslim dissimulating to stay in the White House and work for Allah to throw the gates of America open to it, like the fabled Trojan Horse. The most concentrated historyscope of Obama's rabbit hole with all the facts pro and con laid out with links to go deeper is free online anytime at http://tinyurl.com/obamascope

I saw a bumper sticker for the Palin presidential run: Palin-Beck: the softer side of fascism
1. Posted by: practica1 | August 29, 2010 2:02 PM
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By what sense of reason?
What, precisely, is the connection?
The philosophy of Fascism, is completely antithetical to the advice, information, and ideas of Glenn.
Are you going to blame him with causing cancer, also??

2. fascism (făash`ĭizə?m), totalitarian philosophy of government that glorifies the state and nation and assigns to the state control over every aspect of national life.
Dennis
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Perhaps, and I believe there are, sufficient right minded people who will dismiss this trash at the polls.
Either I'm hopeful or I move to another country.
And I'm not that interested in doing so.
Posted by: jato11 | August 29, 2010 2:02 PM
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Good-bye, Adieu, and Sayonara.
I hope we’ll miss you.
Well, hopefully, someone will miss you.
Do you have a dog? or a fish?
Dennis
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Additionally, all you guys should thank, and show appreciation to WAPO, for this forum.
Political ideologies, nothwithstanding, they're providing a very good forum/outlet for all our ideas, complaints, criticisms, and just plain streaks of meanness.
Thank them, let them know.
Do not assume that we'll always have this benefit.
Dennis

If Beck honestly believes his wealth "is going to be worthless", why is he not giving it to the poor, the way JESUS would? You know, that fellow from Galilee on whom Christianity is actually based, for everyone but Republicans?

Beck says "people" don't recognize Obama's version of Christianity? Oh? One where those with the ability to do so actually try to help the poor and sick, instead of hiding in their temples COUNTING THEIR GOLD BULLION COINS MR BECK?

The reality is that if Jesus were here today he would be beyond appalled at Mr. Beck's "version of Christianity". Sadly, his brain-dead followers are too dense to see this. This is because they treat their Bibles like a Software User License. Instead of actually *reading* it, they just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". They have no idea what it says. They think Jesus was a warmongering heartless right wing protector of the wealthy. These people are nuts.

"And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."

I think he chose MLK's speech day for controversy. It just seems artifical. He has selected the most salient elements of political movements (religion, small government, and taxes), he looked up polls statistics for past successful movements, and applied the resulting information to his current rally. It's make a 'political movement for dumbs' on drugs. Not calling anyone dumb for following Beck, I am just commenting it looks very artifical, and staged to be something it's not. This rally had nothing to do with civil rights or religion or 'coming back to God.' It was a political rally.

Ralphinphnx, you and the rest of the left wing loons on these posts spew the vilest of hate mongering and bigotry. You need to stop drinking your meals from brown paper bags. Look in your to see a real racist, loser.

Posted by: blasmaic
Compared to the photograph of the Obama inaugeration, which was 1.8 million, did Beck draw a crowd that was one quarter, three-eighths, or half as large?
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Who says Obama drew 1.8 million people? Anyway, that was back when people believed his BS. He would draw that many people today but 75% of them would be there to protest him.

So, the drunk gold scammer is feeling full of himself, now that he got a bunch of stupid rednecks to show up for his ridiculous event?

Watch the ego on this fool grow and grow.

In the meantime, those of you who think Beck is such a messiah, check this out:

Goldline International is under investigation by the Santa Monica City Attorney’s office, jointly with the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s office, as well as being the subject of a separate investigation by Congress into the possible criminal practices. The firm has been the subject of an ABC Nightline News Exposé, as well as an investigation by NY Congressman Weiner).

Goldline is using the hyperbolic -- and at times fear-inducing -- speech of right wing nutjobs like Beck to encourage customers to buy the precious metal at highly-inflated prices.

Beck mention God about 275 times in his ramble. God God God God God, like a broken record. Do whatevertheheck GOD tells you to do! Ok Glenn, gotcha, wink wink!

How, in the 21st Century, can responsible people sit and listen to that kind of complete foolishness? From a TV carnival barker who's employed because he sells advertising no less? Turn him into a demi-god, gawk through his drivel, and call that a social movement?

They might as well all get behind a product like Pepsi or Charmin and devote themselves to it.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo
Theoretically, both liberals and conservatives can be God fearing and Christian.
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No, liberals can't be God fearing. If they did then they wouldn't be pro abortion for just one example. Do you really think God condones ripping fetuses from the womb and murdering them in cold blood? Could you personally perform an abortion and have no regrets? If not then how can you condone others doing it?

Americans are so ignorant of history that Glenn Beck can just make up stuff, claim it is true history and they believe it and expose their children to it. They do not recognize a dangerous megalomaniac claiming to be in touch with the Divine. Beck is so obviously a greedy charlatan and yet good people follow him with vacant eyes and empty heads. Sounds like a similar group of lost, unhappy, ignorant Germans before WWII. Pahlin and Beck, two of the most ignorant of our "leaders" and there they are leading America - to where? What are they telling us will restore honor to America - less tax for the rich, hating Muslims, gays, Blacks? These Tea Partyers hate for God and Beck while the right wing steals every last penny from their pockets, takes away their schools, parks, health care and protection from corporate destruction of their world. I am ashamed of my country that it still produces people who scream "honor" while they are one step from attacking their neighbors while they destroy our country.

I like the way Beck stay on the tripe, repeats noxious and unimportant themes like New Black Panthers & Obama's "brand" of Christianity. It galvanizes the problem children, but also exposes them as insincere and crass. Let's hear some more Death Panel stuff again, that was a good one!

I personally think that religion has no place in politics. Even Christ said "Give unto Cesar the things that are Cesar's and to God the things that are God's." Although all religions dictate a code of behavior I see very few followers of any religion fallowing the teachings that their religion teaches. It looks like to me that nearly everyone now days are worshiping the God Mammon. Anyone that pays no attention to the teachings of their religion will not pay any attention to the laws of the country that they live in. Truly we have entered an age of anarchy.

Beck's choice of using the Lincoln Monument as a setting was wrong. Lincoln said that a house divided cannot stand. Beck has shown nothing but disdain and disrespect for those who disagree with him. He does nothing to bring people together. Not Lincoln's values. He was right that MLK's legacy doesn't just belong to Black Americans, but he is not the one to claim it. MLK wanted everyone to respect each other. Despite violence and terrorism that make Al-Qaida look timid MLK still advocated peaceful resistance. He never lambasted others the way Beck does. Beck has no claim on MLK's legacy. The vitriol expressed in many of the comments illustrate the problem of our discourse.

Posted by: Stethor2000
This rally shows us how very uninformed, yet easily lead many of our countrymen actually are.
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Actually it is the opposite. Obama and his liberal puppet masters thought they could, through deception, lead the American people into socialist, Marxist, dictatorial government. Well that idea has fallen dead. The American people are not as easily lead as the liberals thought. I find this very refreshing and hopeful that the future of this great country is not lost to America-hating liberals.

So,why anyone in their right mind would want to vote for a screwball Glen Beck for
even dogcatcher of a one dog town is totally insane! The voters need be reminded
that it was the now famous "ABB"or Anybody
But Bush" nosense that gave us,Comrade Muslim in Chief Barack Hussein Obama,the
Kenyan in the White House here and now and
that Glenn Beck is a big mouth loser that
only appeals to the weak minded far right
wing GOP kooks and Right Wing Religious
Zealots and would be as pathetic as Obama
and Biden both as President or Vice President and forget Beck unless you want
to hand Barack Hussein Obama and Joe Biden
a Second Term Free Ride. What anyone can see in this sleazy ex-drunkard screwy loser
Glenn Beck is beyond me totally and I will
Not Vote For Glenn Beck or Barack Obama!

And so,let me add this while I used to really like Sarah Palin and some of her ideas not anymore if Sarah Palin keeps on
endorsing losers like Amnesty John McCain
and keeps hanging around total ignoramus
psychos like Goffy Glen Beck the GOP Version of Barack Hussein Obama with Big Mouth Joe Biden thrown in!

Hey Voters Wise Up and Pay Close Attention
as the USA needs new blood in the White House and so this Arizona Independent Voter
strongly suggests take a close look at our
Arizona Gov Jan Brewer for President in 2012 not losers like Goofy Glen Beck,or total has been losers Mitt Romney,or Mike
Huckabee if you want real leadership!

Sorry... You missed the whole point of the Rally... and the hundreds of thousands of people who were there. (Not to mention the millions of people in the hinterlands who didn't have the time or money to make the trip.)

You will never make it in journalism until you begin reporting the truth.

There was a time in our history that capitalsm failed. The great depression. It was corrupted by corperate greed.Regulations were put in place and socialistic programs were adopted to get the country back on track. Beck is being paid by giant coperate interests to mislead us. For him to mislead in the name of God is a sad day in America. It is hard to imagine that there are people who will vote against what Jesus would vote in favor of, and at the same time, consider themselves Christian. If there is a devil on earth it is Beck.

Posted by: JSmitan
It's so hard keeping up with the liberal position on Christianity.
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That is because liberals have no faith in God. Their faith lies in GOVERNMENT. This allows them to lie, cheap, steal, repress people, etc. without remorse. Liberals have no soul. They sold it to the devil when they joined the ACLU.

Posted by: MikeJ9116
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So which god do you worship
and
who gave you the permission to speak for them?

Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, owner of The Fox "News" Propaganda Channel and Muslim terrorist funder...is very proud of his Tea Party cult members for their obedience yesterday. He said a special prayer to Allah for them while flying in his private 767 jet to Mecca.

Posted by: JSmitan
It's so hard keeping up with the liberal position on Christianity.
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That is because liberals have no faith in God. Their faith lies in GOVERNMENT. This allows them to lie, cheap, steal, repress people, etc. without remorse. Liberals have no soul. They sold it to the devil when they joined the ACLU.

It was already commented on and has been decided ---that Beckhitler is an alcoholic Mormon hooker (selling out to Fox)and

Saviour Saint Sarah is a fat, gay, sick idiot. The "sick" comes from naming her child Trig after the afflication he holds (which is shortened as Tri-G). That came out yesterday by one of the posters here.

And then the constant arguing of how many people were there and mostly white.

Beckhitler sure had his nerve putting this on for the pristine lilly whites. Instead of naming it Restoring America, he should have named it the Coming Together of the Christian Right.
Southern Preacher Beckhitler strikes. He's going to start thinking he is the second coming. I am glad I do not watch this man.

The rally topics seemed to evolve as the event approached, with the last minute topics flaunting strict Southern narrow fundamentalist type "Christianity" - - which, while claiming Jesus, uses him as a God of Vengeance and hatred.

How many Aryan Nation and NRA Militia types, and yes, KKK types were there. Plenty, I'm sure. There was always a backwoods preacher with his bible at KKK whippings and lynchings!

liberals want to deny that there were more democrats attending the rally of Beck...of the estimated 300 to 500k than were marching with al 'exploit' sharpton.....liberals worry more about their handouts than they do about america.

Glen beck is a Mormon. His video says so. Mormons are not consider followers of Christ because of their beliefs.
1. Posted by: MILLER123 | August 29, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse
Beck: People don't recognize 'Obama's version of Christianity'
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Hey there, Bunco Boy, it's your version of Christianity (Mormonism) that people don't recognize.
* Mormonism teaches that there are many gods, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163)
* There is a mother goddess, (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 443)
* After you become a good Mormon, you have the potential of becoming a god, (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pages 345-347, 354)
* God used to be a man on another planet, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 321)
* The Trinity is three separate gods, (James Talmage, Articles of Faith, p. 35)
* God the Father has a body of flesh and bones, (Doctrine and Covenants, 130:22)
* God is married to his goddess wife and has spirit children, (Mormon Doctrine p. 516)
Source: http://www.carm.org/glen-beck-christian
Do you wear the 'Sacred Underwear', Bunco Boy?
Posted by: WhateverHeSaid | August 29, 2010 1:27 PM
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SO!! O’bama’s left handed, and he smokes!!
What the heck does either have to do with the “content of their character?
You seem to be very hurt, bitter, and chagrined. Why waste our time fuming, whining, and detailing these aspects of Glenn’s religion?
Try that with any Imam, or noted Islamic Religious Leaders, and you’ll become a target of their Jihad.
But, with Glenn, he’s peaceful, so you can continue to vilify, and harangue safely.
I “like Mormons.” I like Jews. I like Catholics. I don’t agree with “all their” religious beliefs, but, I’m “not” their God. They don’t have to answer to me. So, I support the elements of, the aspects of their beliefs that coincide with mine. I don’t have to approve of their salvation. It’s none of my business. I’ll protect and defend their rights to profess, and promote, their beliefs, if they so choose.
You, on the other hand, seem to be really hurt by Glenn. Why??
Dennis

...just to clarify, neither Pubs nor Dems in Washington, DC are doing us any favors in terms of protecting us. Make no mistake, the Patriot Act is intended to protect the government and its agents -- not 'we the people'...

It is true Bush and a Pub-controlled Congress passed the very dangerous Patriot Act in October, 2001. But the vote was 98 to 1 (Senate), 357 to 66 (House), so a lot of Dems went right along with the program. And in March, 2010, when the Patriot Act expired, Obama and a Dem-controlled Congress extended the Patriot Act. In the Senate it was extended on a voice vote; we aren't even entitled to know who voted which way...

I don't read the Post anymore, even though they practically give it away for under $2 a week to keep their numbers up for advertising but it is still bleeding red-ink just like its editorial pages. And after reading a couple dozen comments about the rally yesterday it is obvious that a city which elected a crackhead for mayor and returns him to office as a councilman every election with 95% of the vote would be expected to loath the hundreds of millions of hard-working Americans who support DC's over-paid and underworked bureaucracies with their tax dollars.
The best thing the country could do would be to relocate the capital once again, this time to the center of the country, as DC was when first established, and we could return the city to Maryland as was done with Alexandria to Virginia. Liberals live in such a smug petty world that they don't understand that their socialist heroes are imploding every day. It was great to have some real Americans in town for a day to give the ruling class a peek into the future.

Beck World is a very interesting place. It exists primarily on Fox News of course another interesting place. Consider this:

-Fox, the Patriotic All-American Blue-Collar Conservative Christian network, is actually owned primarily by a Catholic Australian who was born rich and has married three times. It's next biggest sharelholder is a Muslim Saudi prince who is among the richest men in the world

-Beck, the Apostle of the new Christianity is actually not a Christian at all, but a Mormon who was born a Catholic and has married twice. He is also a self-decsribed former alcohol and drug addict.

-Bill O'Reilly, the conservative champion of the little man, actually attended Harvard University and paid out millions to settle a sexual harrasment suit against him after an embarassing audio tape was released.

- Sean Hannity, who along with Beck is a champion of our military, like Beck supports our troops best from the comfort of his mansion. Neither Hannity nor Beck ever served in the military.

-In fact, while Fox News and network is staunchly pro-military, it is an armchair version of that support. No Fox on air personality has ever served in the military except Ollie North who used to have a show.

The following is a partial list of Fox personalities and occasional commentators who favor a strong military as long as they never had to join:

Posted by: exco
Even using Beck's number, 650,000 people represents .012% of the number of registered Republicans. It is equal to .005% of registered voters.
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By your logic, every rally ever held means nothing. Including the one held by MLK at the Lincoln Memorial 47 years ago. You have a brain, Use it for something besides a sock puppet for liberals.

So, Brother Beck is the new Messiah of the Religious Right? Sarah Palin does a great Aimee Semple McPherson, too. Great showmen and entrepreneurs, they are; and, they are both laughing all the way to the bank.

inoue @ 1:13, not only did Nancy Pelosi see the crowd estimates from yesterday. So did everyone else in the USA. These are the estimates depending on who you choose to believe:

CBS News - 87,000

www.fox43.com: more than 200,000"

Glenn Beck - up to 650,000

Even using Beck's number, 650,000 people represents .012% of the number of registered Republicans. It is equal to .005% of registered voters.

Yes, everyone knows that not everyone who shares the Beck/Palin view of America was at the Mall. Even if we very generously assume that there were 20 people who support the Beck/Palin view of America at home for every supporter on the Mall, the total would be less than 10% of registered voters and would still be a minority of registered Republicans.

Bottom line: you are a visible political minority because Rupert Murdoch wants it that way but you are a not and never will more than that.

What a smarmy race baiter. It makes you appreciate an open racist like George Wallace or Mitch McConnell. The so-called "New Black Panthers" were two guys that showed up at a polling place. Were they there to scare black people because that is all that voted in that area. Would white people be intimidated by that? Or would they be intimidated by Sheriff's deputies with night clubs that is par for the course in the South?

I have a dream where Sarah Palin shall wear an outfit with white on top and black on the bottom. I have a dream where corporate America rules the day shipping jobs out of the country. I have a dream where the Bush Patriot Act eliminates civil rights. I have a dream of troops goose stepping down Pennsylvania Aveune following their glorious military victories over Muslims. I have a dream where illegal aliens are picked up and placed in special camps. I have a dream where corporate America pays me big time to get them into power. I have a dream........

I wonder what Mr. Beck's explanation is for the fact that Jesus Christ himself was an activist who believed in social and economic justice. I assume he would want to take back Christianity from Christ?

I wonder what Mr. Beck's explanation is for the fact that Jesus Christ himself was an activist who believed in social and economic justice. I assume he would want to take back Christianity from Christ?

I have a dream where Sarah Palin shall wear an outfit with white of top and black on the bottom. I have a dream where corporate America rules the day shipping jobs out of the country. I have a dream where the Bush Patriot Act eliminates civil rights. I have a dream of troops goose stepping down Pennsylvania Aveune following their glorious military victories over Muslims. I have a dream where illegal aliens are picked up and placed in special camps. I have a dream where corporate America pays me big time to get them into power. I have a dream........

The comments from the Left in this column solidify my belief that if you do not agree with the Left you are called every name in the book. The Left has nothing positive to say. They are the ones who are filled with hate.

I wonder what Mr. Beck's explanation is for the fact that Jesus Christ himself was an activist who believed in social and economic justice. I assume he would want to take back Christianity from Christ?

"Blacks should support the Republican Party. It's the Democratic Party that is racist and hates blacks."

and then went on to write:
". Do you think MLK would be proud of todays blacks? Many in jail and with prison records, 70% of children born out of wedlock, black men impregnating every thing that moves and then not supporting them financially or emotionally, all on welfare and unemployed, and all the young kids with the guns and violence."
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This last characterization (e.g. "black men impregnating everything that moves", "all on welfare and unemployed") is misleading and comes extremely close to exposing this republican's underlying racism. And later he goes on to claim "All you blacks and democrats are hypocrits."

It's a national disgrace that we incarcerate so many black men, based on targeted arrests and unfair prosecutions. It's a national disgrace that the health and life expectancies of blacks are so far behind whites. It's a national disgrace that black's education is so inferior to that of whites. And so on.

Some republicans may want to think they believe that blacks are equal to whites, something that is obviously true and has been accepted by democrats for many years. What virtually no republicans seem to understand is that when it comes to "equal opportunity", there is no comparison between blacks and whites.

Beck and republicans such as Jhayne5 are quite blind if they think blacks (and other disadvantaged groups) can pull themselves up by their bootstraps and achieve anything they want through personal "character". They are born into a society designed to keep them down because they don't have the opportunities afforded to most whites. This is not even a political statement - just simple sociology.

He added that the Justice Department is "certainly not doing that" in the case of the New Black Panther Party, referencing an alleged incident of voter intimidation on Election Day in 2008... [excerpt from WP article above]

"Alleged"? Really? First, the offense is on tape and all over YouTube; second, the Justice Department had already won its case before Eric Holder decided he wasn't going to prosecute minorities (his words, not mine).

Using the word "alleged" in this instance is a misstatement of fact and a lapse in journalistic integrity.

i'm a catholic and a believer that capitalism mixed with democracy is a recipe for freedom, because if you are a capitalist you also believe in the right to do nothing unlike ideologies (swing voter)

most of the comments i've read point in the same direction:
who the hell does he think he is! telling the world somebody else's religion (Obama's) is a bad religion, just because Obama beliefs in collective salvation.
religion for most civilized people is a personal journey, like Christ said "love yourself first", honestly i think Beck hates himself

Mr & Mrs America Glen Beck is a dangerous radical and is and will continue to be poison to all those who truly agree that America is a great country. He spews hate and prejudice at every turn and masks that dialogue in religion. This is over the top right wing venom.Lets turf him and Fox TV by the wayside and move forward with clear thinking people that present options and solutions instead of attacking those who the PEOPLE voted to office. He's a sensationalist that earns his millions exciting like small minded radical right wing followers.

Mr & Mrs America Glen Beck is a dangerous radical and is and will continue to be poison to all those who truly agree that America is a great country. He spews hate and prejudice at every turn and masks that dialogue in religion. This is over the top right wing venom.Lets turf him and Fox TV by the wayside and move forward with clear thinking people that present options and solutions instead of attacking those who the PEOPLE voted to office. He's a sensationalist that earns his millions exciting like small minded radical right wing followers.

It's pretty funny - if liberals weren't so derisive toward Beck and Palin, no one would have paid any attention. Well now they've created their own nightmare.
1. http://rubylee1776.wordpress.com/2010/08/29/the-glen-beck-phenomena
Posted by: Constance_Goforth | August 29, 2010 1:10 PM |
------------------------------------------YOU, are right on the money.
I’ve had so much fun, over the past two years, watching Liberals, run, in panic, from the thoughts, words, and ideas of Glenn Beck.

It’s fun to see. They, at some point, should begin to think, or realize just what’s causing the Phenomena.
Even my dog, Nicky would’ve recognized the effect of their response, by now, and would’ve determined the need for new tactics, strategies, or responses. I guess my dog, Nicky is smarter than the average Democrat/Liberal.
Thanks, for your post.
Dennis

jhayne5 says (after altering my text): To johng 1 - He said 'your stupid rally is over, now get the f outta my city'...why so you brothers can go back to stealing, raping, killing and beating people up, along with smoking crack and cashing your welfare checks and not paying child support to the hundreds of kids you have with hundreds of women and then disappear on them.

You blacks are REAL men!

Punks!

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Wow, the racist creed of Beck gets swallowed whole by these goobers.

Hee hee hee, the goobers think everyone in DC is black. Just like they believe the earth was created by some goober god 6000 years ago, because some goober pastor told them so! ha ha ha!

Beck reminds me of the old west snake oil salesman. They would ride into town selling everything from bibles to potions to pseudo cures. Just like then, the idiots buy it. Too bad he doesn't have a cure for idiocy, but then he would have no one listening.

"This disaster is proven to be the direct result of actions taken under republican administrations going back to Nixon/Agnew and the "I am not a crook" gang. What ever happened to intelligent republican conservatives who brought to the table actual reasons for their positions?"

While the losing of our moral compass (as a nation) cannot be entirely blamed on DEMOCRAT President Clinton, he sure helped it along with:

Goldline International is under investigation by the Santa Monica City Attorney’s office, jointly with the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s office, as well as being the subject of a separate investigation by Congress into the possible criminal practices. The firm has been the subject of an ABC Nightline News Exposé, as well as an investigation by NY Congressman Weiner).

Goldline is using the hyperbolic -- and at times fear-inducing -- speech of right wing nutjobs like Beck to encourage customers to buy the precious metal at highly-inflated prices.

Politicians of all stripes should take notice. I sure did not see any folks who wanted to be reliant on a government at the Mall yesterday! I did see folks of all races; nationalities; and probably, religions there -- all seeking the same thing: FREEDOM! Think that Obama should take note as well. Folks do not need someone in the White House telling them how to lead their lives. Just get out of the way, and DO NOT TRY TO REDISTRIBUTE OUR RESOURCES. Give the opportunity to all to get out and produce for themselves and their families!! Otherwise, find another country to serve as their DICTATOR -- but, not in the USA!!

What does "collective salvation" have to do racism? I listened to him rambling about the the difference between "God being on your side or you being on God's side" and all I know is this is the guy that is trading gold, and it reminds me of a story in the New Testament...

Restoring America or restoring large tax cuts for the wealthy; restoring large tax cuts for the CEO's of Big Business; restoring the concept of the privatization of SS and Medicare; restoring the demise of health care reform; restoring a lack of oversight in government so that Corporate America can rip off the working class; restoring the John Birch Society to power (if they ever had it.

Wake up America! These Right Wingers will be the downfall of the American Dream with Corporations controlling every policy they they want at the people's cost. They incite your emotions and preach hell and damnation if you don't agree with them. I have never seen a more diabolical movement funded by Murdoch and the Koch brothers to stop democratic ideals while pro-porting they are saving America. Now the final piece, God and Christianity as if there are no other religions that make up our great country. As a Born Again Christian I abhor the use of Christian beliefs for the political use by these so called Christians. They are far from Christ and they are far from the ideals of Christianity. Don't be fooled! Christ did not hate, Christ helped the unfortunate, Christ preached goodness and Love.
Not Beck, Not Palin, Not Murdoch, Not Koch's, not the Tea Party. VOTE THESE FOOLS DOWN!!

If Beck did, in fact, say that people don't recognize 'Obama's version of Christianity", it begs a question as to whether there is any version of Christianity that believes it is acceptable for a Christian to say this about another human being over the public airwaves:

May 17, 2005, The Glenn Beck Program: "I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I'm wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it." He continues the rant by saying he then looks at his "What would Jesus do?" band, which causes him to conclude, "Oh, you wouldn't kill Michael Moore. Or at least you wouldn't choke him to death."

Ah, yes. The inevitable response to the question will be, "It was a joke. He is an entertainer." Does that mean he is excused from the responsibility incumbent on the rest of us not to shout "Fire!" in a crowded theater? John Hinkley attempted to assassinate Ronald Reagan in the hopes of impressing Jodi Foster who, to the best of my knowledge, had publicly displayed any dislike for Mr. Reagan. Is Beck so obtuse that he doesn't realize that he has fans who might act on his never-ending stream of hateful words directed at specific individuals?

As to the statement that Obama's ideology "relies on the lens of 'oppressor and victim'", this is a strange statement coming from the man who yesterday reclaimed the civil rights movement for the oppressed white Christian majority.

Beck said there is 'not a chance' of a Beck-Palin GOP ticket in 2012. He said he has "zero desire" to run for president. "I don't think I would be electable," he said.

Beck explained that the gathering, which took place on the 47th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech in the same location, was intended to reclaim the mantle of the civil rights movement from politics for "people of faith."

Beck said Obama made the case in a speech to students that "your salvation is directly tied to collective salvation," which Beck said was "a direct opposite of what the gospel talks about ... Jesus came for personal salvation." Beck said "people aren't recognizing [Obama's] version of Christianity."

To his critics who attack his wealth, Beck said the money doesn't matter. "I think it's going to be worthless," he said, adding that he doesn't know "if it's going to be gold or acorns" that America will use as currency in the future.
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This is what passes for political and social commentary in America today? It's gibberish, absolute nonsense. Acorns for currency? Beck, you're an idiot and anyone who takes you seriously is just proof that there truly is a sucker born every minute.

What was Glenn Beck talking about yesterday? Not politics, not civil rights, not less government or the need to reduce the federal defict so our grandchildren won't have to pay it off, etc., not his usual right-wing rant against Obama and "socialism." No, it was evangelism: an attempt to revive a particular religious past, return to a white, Christian American God. To say he got all the Tea partiers into his striped go-to-meeting tent under false pretenses is understatement. A sorry, hypocritical performance.

JWw2 says "johng1 is glad the rally is over and the police are no longer highly present...so he can go out and steal some hub-caps...pander tricks wearing his pink fish-nets...dumpster dive to add to his liberal accomplishments...but he has DC style..he doesn't smoke crack..he just sells his for another bottle of wine.

Mr. beck shows disturbing signs of mental instability that render his comments and judgement suspect as well as his vetting of sponsorship dollars like the Reupert Murdock system pusher Goldline as well as others known to be at best con jobs and could very well be found guilty of criminal fraud in the very near future. He then pairs himself with self proclaimed sepratist and resigned in disgrace governor of Alaska Palin who has made a spectical of herself by proving ignorance sells as if we had not figured that out from the fan base of jerry springer and Maury Povich. For any intelligent politician to align themselves with this menagerie of misfits and misinformed is to commit career suicide and the population will not support a return to Bush league theft of our quality of life. This disaster is proven to be the direct result of actions taken under republican administrations going back to Nixon/Agnew and the "I am not a crook" gang. What ever happened to intelligent republican conservatives who brought to the table actual reasons for their positions?

Beck again is wrong when he says that we have lost our religion and are out of touch with God. 84% of our citizens are affiliated with a religious organization. We are not "godless" people. Glenn needs an education.

Like most Americans, I utterly reject the so-called "christianity" of Beck's band of ignorant greedbaggers. They are a hate-brigade, concerned only about their own stuff, convinced that they can take it all with them when they die.

Too bad their ugly, threatening signs - so evident at their usual hate-fests - were banned this time. The "signs" were still evident on their ugly, old, fearful white faces.

Ignorance, greed and hatred -- the christianity of the modern age.

Posted by: Casey1 | August 29, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Casey1,
This is what I am concerned about. People who believed that beck and palin represent Christianity are just plain wrong. Some people's god is money. Christianity have hijackers in its mists just as any other faith. Look out especially for those who say "God spoke me." They say it in a way that means He doesn't speak to you just them. There is a difference between the words Prophet and profit.

Here are quotes from the Bible that you have to consider when you listen to SOME people talk about their faith on a public stage or on the sabbath. The rest of the week...well you get the point.
ISAIAH 29:13
"Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near [me] with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:

MATTHEW 15:8
This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with [their] lips; but their heart is far from me.

johng1 is glad the rally is over and the police are no longer highly present...so he can go out and steal some hub-caps...pander tricks wearing his pink fish-nets...dumpster dive to add to his liberal accomplishments...but he has DC style..he doesn't smoke crack..he just sells his for another bottle of wine.

Beck misrepresents again and again. I've viewed two transcripts of Obama speeches in a two year period and his salvation remarks are not spoken in the context of religious worship, they're coached in the context of serving others not just yourself.
Beck just wants to keep up an argument in which he ordains himself and his words in God and religion. Phony baloney Beck stuff that's all.

As a Christian, I have misgivings about Mormon Beck speaking for me on religious matters. There are deep and important differences between Mormonism and Christianity. I think that what is most relevant, however, in a discussion of Beck's usurpation of the MLK anniversary is the long-standing Mormon teaching that black people are inherently inferior, and that they have no chance of attaining heaven. I would like to hear the verbose Mr. Beck talk more about his faith, and less about generalities that link the loving religion of Christianity with a militant, armed America. By the way, I haven't heard of the military service of Beck himself. I come from a generation in which most males actually did military service, and didn't just talk about it.

Who is Glenn Beck to be critical of someone else's Christianity? Beck throws the name of Christ around enough but never truly discusses the fact that he is actually a Mormon.

Well Mormon's are Christians? Right? Wrong. Their belief structure is fundamentally different than any mainstream version of Christianity. Mormonism starts with the belief that Joseph Smith was a divine Prophet of God who walked the earth over 1800 years after Christ. He wrote the Book of Mormon, which is considered divine. The Bible specifically speaks against this:

"Every word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him. Do not add to his words, or he will rebuke you and prove you a liar. Proverbs 30: 5-6

I have no problem with Mormons believing what they want to believe in a country like America with religious freedom. Likewise, I have no objection to those who choose to not believe at all. It just becomes so tiring to watch people who are clearly not Christians, trying to co-opt the Christian crowd for political motivations and using Christ to do so.

Glenn Beck does not represent the cause of Christ. He makes his living off of the misery of others while casually throwing around the name of Jesus. But he rarely ever mentions that the God he refers to is not the God of Christianity. Sorry Glenn, the problem is not that we can't recognize Obama's Christianity but that we can recognize yours?

The Tea Party is the best thing that could have happened to the GOP - the snake is finally beginning to eat it's own tail. Only one word can describe Herr Beck and the rest of the Bush Reich retreads - TRAITORS.

Liberals only attack those that dont beg..work hard...love america...have morals and values...let the children be children...pay taxes and have the right to complain about high taxes...call things just they way they are...would rather put a dime in someone cup who deserves it,rather than their stretched out paw.
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liberals are nothing but natural selection waiting on time and a dug hole...so most just put with their whine and treat them like a free comedy show.

I have watched Beck's TV show for the last six months or so. (I'm a psychologist interested in political propaganda). I would be willing to view Beck as a sincere person with a "different" set of views.

The problem is, however, that his show (where he plays a professor) is simply filled with lies, historical distortions, and ridiculous efforts to smear his enemies. He is extremely right wing and it scares me to think that 3 million or so people watch him each day.

Someone should ask him to see if he even knows what the term "character" means.

Beck is essentially a sad man who has led a very sad life. This is just his newest attempt at self-invention. It is interesting that so many who are talking about Christian things are listening to a non-Christian to lead them. Beck is as much a Christian as Obama is a Muslim. He will come to a sad end like Jim Baker and Jimmy Swaggart and a multitude of demagogues before him. Within a couple of years he will either suffer a breakdown, or have some greatly embarassing personal revelation come out. As dizzying as his rise, so will be his fall.

Near the bottom of the food chain is a creature known as "the lying politician." Good examples are Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, Barbara Bachman and thousands of other right-wingers working to tear this country down.

Below them are the anarchists who use religion as a political tool, people like Glenn Beck, Franklin Graham and Lindsey Graham.

Put the two together with a fictitious rally to bring honor back to America (Brazil and Canada don't need this) and what you have is a farce, a cesspool of right-wing delusions.

Glenn Beck, if you want to bring honor back to the United States of America then turn Cheney and his cohorts over to an international war crimes tribunal, bring truth and facts back to right-wing politicians in this country, and shut down the slanderous, deceitful tabloid rant programs masquerading as news.

Beck said he wanted Obama to fail. he was going to work to see that he would fail. This is not in the middle of obama's term or at the end but at the very beginning. Simply put if Obama fails then America fails. End of debate. That is simply sedition as defined by law. Obama was elected as president. We don't redo elections because you don't like the result. A majority of Americans voted for Obama. They did NOT vote for the other guy. It is obvious Heck and all of those tea partiers and whatever truly massively HATE America. They want it to fail. They are re-running an election 24/7 day after day. They are NOT getting behind the team America to solve problems. They want to destroy it. Their vision of America is NO social security,NO social justice,NO unemployment safety net. And genuflection on both knees BOWING to corporate types like BP APOLOGISING for them. All wealth to the rich and let it trickle down someday. If it isn't their vision of America then destroy it. Some patriotism,some faith.

There was an election. Obama won. get over it.

Now how does one think a black man becomes president? Simple. The right wing conservative crackpots so corrupted America EVEN a black man was acceptable. before these tea partier fools wave another flag they better look in a mirror. Unamerican to the core. To be conservative is to be unamerican.

Beck said he wanted Obama to fail. he was going to work to see that he would fail. This is not in the middle of obama's term or at the end but at the very beginning. Simply put if Obama fails then America fails. End of debate. That is simply sedition as defined by law. Obama was elected as president. We don't redo elections because you don't like the result. A majority of Americans voted for Obama. They did NOT vote for the other guy. It is obvious Heck and all of those tea partiers and whatever truly massively HATE America. They want it to fail. They are re-running an election 24/7 day after day. They are NOT getting behind the team America to solve problems. They want to destroy it. Their vision of America is NO social security,NO social justice,NO unemployment safety net. And genuflection on both knees BOWING to corporate types like BP APOLOGISING for them. All wealth to the rich and let it trickle down someday. If it isn't their vision of America then destroy it. Some patriotism,some faith.

There was an election. Obama won. get over it.

Now how does one think a black man becomes president? Simple. The right wing conservative crackpots so corrupted America EVEN a black man was acceptable. before these tea partier fools wave another flag they better look in a mirror. Unamerican to the core. To be conservative is to be unamerican.

Beck said he wanted Obama to fail. he was going to work to see that he would fail. This is not in the middle of obama's term or at the end but at the very beginning. Simply put if Obama fails then America fails. End of debate. That is simply sedition as defined by law. Obama was elected as president. We don't redo elections because you don't like the result. A majority of Americans voted for Obama. They did NOT vote for the other guy. It is obvious Heck and all of those tea partiers and whatever truly massively HATE America. They want it to fail. They are re-running an election 24/7 day after day. They are NOT getting behind the team America to solve problems. They want to destroy it. Their vision of America is NO social security,NO social justice,NO unemployment safety net. And genuflection on both knees BOWING to corporate types like BP APOLOGISING for them. All wealth to the rich and let it trickle down someday. If it isn't their vision of America then destroy it. Some patriotism,some faith.

There was an election. Obama won. get over it.

Now how does one think a black man becomes president? Simple. The right wing conservative crackpots so corrupted America EVEN a black man was acceptable. before these tea partier fools wave another flag they better look in a mirror. Unamerican to the core. To be conservative is to be unamerican.

Someone needs to tell Glenn that we don't permit religious tests for government office. Also tell him to take some history courses because Glenn thinks that Moses, the pilgrims and Indians had concurrent history. I watched the entire rally and listened most to Beck. His history is inaccurate, his logic is twisted, and he is driven by his own ego. He spent the scholarship money he collected for soldiers children on this rally instead of scholarships. What a farce.

"People do not recognize Obama's version of Christianity" - - - I thought the problems facing the "American people" were: unemployment, rising deficit,two wars, corporate greed etc. I did not know it was problem of who's brand of "faith" is acceptable. The hypocrisy and double speak by folks preying on the fears of gullible and innocent people is a SHAME and disgraceful.

Beck said he wanted Obama to fail. he was going to work to see that he would fail. This is not in the middle of obama's term or at the end but at the very beginning. Simply put if Obama fails then America fails. End of debate. That is simply sedition as defined by law. Obama was elected as president. We don't redo elections because you don't like the result. A majority of Americans voted for Obama. They did NOT vote for the other guy. It is obvious Heck and all of those tea partiers and whatever truly massively HATE America. They want it to fail. They are re-running an election 24/7 day after day. They are NOT getting behind the team America to solve problems. They want to destroy it. Their vision of America is NO social security,NO social justice,NO unemployment safety net. And genuflection on both knees BOWING to corporate types like BP APOLOGISING for them. All wealth to the rich and let it trickle down someday. If it isn't their vision of America then destroy it. Some patriotism,some faith.

There was an election. Obama won. get over it.

Now how does one think a black man becomes president? Simple. The right wing conservative crackpots so corrupted America EVEN a black man was acceptable. before these tea partier fools wave another flag they better look in a mirror. Unamerican to the core. To be conservative is to be unamerican.

Beck said he wanted Obama to fail. he was going to work to see that he would fail. This is not in the middle of obama's term or at the end but at the very beginning. Simply put if Obama fails then America fails. End of debate. That is simply sedition as defined by law. Obama was elected as president. We don't redo elections because you don't like the result. A majority of Americans voted for Obama. They did NOT vote for the other guy. It is obvious Heck and all of those tea partiers and whatever truly massively HATE America. They want it to fail. They are re-running an election 24/7 day after day. They are NOT getting behind the team America to solve problems. They want to destroy it. Their vision of America is NO social security,NO social justice,NO unemployment safety net. And genuflection on both knees BOWING to corporate types like BP APOLOGISING for them. All wealth to the rich and let it trickle down someday. If it isn't their vision of America then destroy it. Some patriotism,some faith.

There was an election. Obama won. get over it.

Now how does one think a black man becomes president? Simple. The right wing conservative crackpots so corrupted America EVEN a black man was acceptable. before these tea partier fools wave another flag they better look in a mirror. Unamerican to the core. To be conservative is to be unamerican.

Beck said he wanted Obama to fail. he was going to work to see that he would fail. This is not in the middle of obama's term or at the end but at the very beginning. Simply put if Obama fails then America fails. End of debate. That is simply sedition as defined by law. Obama was elected as president. We don't redo elections because you don't like the result. A majority of Americans voted for Obama. They did NOT vote for the other guy. It is obvious Heck and all of those tea partiers and whatever truly massively HATE America. They want it to fail. They are re-running an election 24/7 day after day. They are NOT getting behind the team America to solve problems. They want to destroy it. Their vision of America is NO social security,NO social justice,NO unemployment safety net. And genuflection on both knees BOWING to corporate types like BP APOLOGISING for them. All wealth to the rich and let it trickle down someday. If it isn't their vision of America then destroy it. Some patriotism,some faith.

There was an election. Obama won. get over it.

Now how does one think a black man becomes president? Simple. The right wing conservative crackpots so corrupted America EVEN a black man was acceptable. before these tea partier fools wave another flag they better look in a mirror. Unamerican to the core. To be conservative is to be unamerican.

Beck's rantings are nothing new. In the 30's we had evangalists on radio, people like reverend Coughin, exploiting the fears of those who were struggling during the great depression. Beck is no different.
He's a sublime racist, and as close to Joe McCarthy as anyone else. Our country has seen people like Beck before, and they will again when economics are in recession. The ignorant and fearful make great followers, who believe his tripe, because they need scapegoats to explain their own misery. What these people need to do is look in the mirror, and take responsibility. Beck makes victims of them all.

Goldline International is under investigation by the Santa Monica City Attorney’s office, jointly with the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s office, as well as being the subject of a separate investigation by Congress into the possible criminal practices. The firm has been the subject of an ABC Nightline News Exposé, as well as an investigation by NY Congressman Weiner).

Goldline is using the hyperbolic -- and at times fear-inducing -- speech of right wing nutjobs like Beck to encourage customers to buy the precious metal at highly-inflated prices.

No Matt, the purpose of Beck's rally was to raise donations for the Special Operations Warrior Foundation, a charity that gives free college education to children of U.S. special forces members killed in combat.

i really hope Obama turns the economy and creates lots of private sector jobs, so that "peoples common sense" exposes the fraud and hate creator called Glen Beck he is killing the American dream with his nonsense

for instance about the Mosque in N.Y.(just one of many stupidities i've seen when i do television zapping and came across his show), i believe he is killing American dream, Glen Beck has done entire shows on the Mosque topic against it.
if Americans don't allow the people they despise to express themselves... then there is no freedom of speech in America even if its in inappropriate place or date

i'm touching this topic because its his latest paranoia and i'm not Muslim

religion + politics = evil

please people don't trust him

to save America, Americans must learn how tho live with other cultures and beliefs from around the world, because respect brings business and real boost the economy, its not about fancy words like, Faith, Hope and Charity, and the change he wants for his utopia

the rest of the world is being entertained by the glenbeckian joke the he calls his gut!
its a joke!!!

Beck said he wanted Obama to fail. he was going to work to see that he would fail. This is not in the middle of obama's term or at the end but at the very beginning. Simply put if Obama fails then America fails. End of debate. That is simply sedition as defined by law. Obama was elected as president. We don't redo elections because you don't like the result. A majority of Americans voted for Obama. They did NOT vote for the other guy. It is obvious Heck and all of those tea partiers and whatever truly massively HATE America. They want it to fail. They are re-running an election 24/7 day after day. They are NOT getting behind the team America to solve problems. They want to destroy it. Their vision of America is NO social security,NO social justice,NO unemployment safety net. And genuflection on both knees BOWING to corporate types like BP APOLOGISING for them. All wealth to the rich and let it trickle down someday. If it isn't their vision of America then destroy it. Some patriotism,some faith.

There was an election. Obama won. get over it.

Now how does one think a black man becomes president? Simple. The right wing conservative crackpots so corrupted America EVEN a black man was acceptable. before these tea partier fools wave another flag they better look in a mirror. Unamerican to the core. To be conservative is to be unamerican.

"To his critics who attack his wealth, Beck said the money doesn't matter. "I think it's going to be worthless," he said, adding that he doesn't know "if it's going to be gold or acorns" that America will use as currency in the future." ~ Washington Post

Beck associates our current government to socialism. A little history for you beckster fools. Once upon a time in our great countries history, our capitalst system became corrupted by greedy corporate scum. Our government had to step in and create some socialst type programs to restart our economy. When the dust settled it was realised that regulation of the banking was needed to prevent a future colapse. Now we have big corporations paying Beck to tell you white right wing fools that the government is the blame for our failling capitalist system. And why do those white right wing fools grovel before that corperate suckling? I'll tell you how he does it. He drops the G word. It took most all of my 60 years of being a white man on this planet to realise that people like Beck are the ones who have kept this country from becoming the United people of America. Hay you white right wing fools. Get out of our way. The country is trying to progress.

After reading many of these comments, I am amazed that not one person has mentioned the fact that, as far off base as we were 7 years ago, there were no tea party activists rallying to "take back Amercia" from poeple who had lied to us about a war that cost us not just money ( big money) but our son's and daughter's lives. A tax break for the wealthiest that put us heaveily in debt, ( our childern's debt). No, there were no tea party activists then, because things were Sooo good then weren't they?
I am not pleased with everything that is going on now, but I have a better feeling about our country's "soul" now, ( except for these reactionaries) than I did 7 years ago. And let's not get into religion. It( and christianity played a big role here)has caused more problems in the world's history then it has helped. The killings, the wars, the hate, the murders, the divisions, the persecutions. Faith, personal faith, is good because it keeps us focused. As soon as we organize it, that's when the problems raise their ugly head.
Glenn Beck should stay an entertainer as Sara Palin is. This, thes two , are the face of the future? The face of reform? The face of the republican party? If they are, then the republicans have big problems, and if they do get power back, we all are in big trouble.

Rich and powerful Americans do not want a civil war which will disturb their privileged positions. Speeches by Glen Beck attract only radical whites listeners who want to restore the nation to a time when power was only in the hands of an Anglo Saxon majority, this could only be possible if Obama voters were crushed and sent to concentration camps to be gassed. The law forces the majority to share power with the nations minorities and fortunately it has prevented a terrible civil war.

Beck, a convert to Mormonism (considered by many Evangelicals to be a cult), is already deciding whose version of Christianity is correct and is speaking as though the Founding Fathers intended America to be Beck's version of a Christian nation.

Beck should have obtained an education instead of a blackboard. The poor sap is clueless. Divisive and trouble-making, but clueless.

"Those critics would be lazy welfare check collecting left liberals who are content to spend their lives smoking pot in the back of used book stores."

Yes, lovely stereotype. Now tell me why it is that the liberal areas of the country pay more taxes than they receive in welfare and other benefits, and the conservative areas of the country receive more in welfare and benefits than they pay in taxes? It's a pretty clear dichotomy.

Glen Beck is an absolute disgrace , I don't know if he actually believes his own BS or if he is just a fraud without a conscience capitalizing on the simpletons in this country ... of which there are many . Palin and Beck are nothing but blithering idiots , they are cult leaders in the cult of the stupid who are getting rich spouting complete nonsense to simpletons who do not know any better . Make some incoherent speeches with all of the magic buzz words , God , patriot , country , honor , socialism , communism and the so called conservatives in this country go wild and eat the meaningless nonsense up , the message is simple ,it's pure politics , conservatives / Republicans good , Democrats liberals bad . Using Jesus Christ , God and Christianity for their political agenda is the ultimate low , the Nazi party in Germany did the same thing . Beck and his followers are a disgrace and an embarrassment , they are turning this country into a nut house and the laughing stock of the entire world , not to mention that they are turning this country upside down and destroying her . What is going on in this country is tragic , the Reich wing fascist party , the conservatives , are destroying this country , the Republican party , Tea party , the conservative Reich all one and the same , are making history alright , the fall of America , sabotaged and destroyed from within .

Absolutely fascinating. Beck professes to be a Morman. Mormans are not Christians! They believe that Jesus Christ was a man, a prophet, not the son of God. To hear a non-Christian such as Beck discuss Obama's "version of Christianity" is truly laughable if it weren't so sad. He really doesn't know what his own religion believes. Christians believe that Jesus came to earth for our salvation, Mormans do not.

And yet, folks are willing to believe every word that comes out of his mouth.

Lets see -- Beck tells people to buy gold on his radio and TV shows but does NOT tell them that he is a paid employee of a comapny selling gold.

Beck tells people Obama is a pal of the muslims but does NOT tell people that News Corp (and FOX) are owned by the Kingdom Foundation which is owned by a Saudi prince who also happens to fund the religious schools that turn out suicide bombers that may be killing our soldiers.

Beck tells people that Obama is destroying the country but he (and the rest of the FOX crew) never admit error. Or respond to information showing they are liars of epic proportions.

The folks that listen to Beck are -- in the mind of any reasonable person -- ignorant, stupid or just plain easily led.

Beck may win the US but the people will eventually pay the price and I hope I'm alive to watch all the Beck lovers try to handle that disaster. As for me, I have a passport which is far better than a gun.

Like most Americans, I utterly reject the so-called "christianity" of Beck's band of ignorant greedbaggers. They are a hate-brigade, concerned only about their own stuff, convinced that they can take it all with them when they die.

Too bad their ugly, threatening signs - so evident at their usual hate-fests - were banned this time. The "signs" were still evident on their ugly, old, fearful white faces.

"Come on, start slinging racial slurs at me as you are slinging at Glenn Beck because he practices his right to religious freedom."

It's not his religious freedom I'm worried about. He's welcome to practice his religion openly, even loudly on the Mall if he pleases. It's his suggestion that only "people of faith" - and only people of HIS faith at that - should have civil rights or religious freedom that worries me.

Glenn Beck better hope that the new currency is GOLD since he hawks it on commercials and even has an ad running across the bottom of some of his interviews. He doesn't care about money?

Easy for Glenn Beck to say - he made $35 million last year and lives in a $5 million mansion in New Canaan CT, the center of estates of the hedge fund managers. Where are his true Western values that he claims to live by? Oh yes, and where is his college diploma and law degree from Harvard?

Oops, he doesn't have anything but a high school diploma and releases from various rehab facilities. Rush Limbaugh minus the 3 junior college courses that Limbaugh took before figuring out how to fool people.

Come on Americans, at least follow someone with a brain, an education and a vision. We deserve better than Beck and Limbaugh and the Koch brothers whipping us up into a frenzy. Or do we?

Yes! We have a problem in America: Corporate greed. They totally corrupted both parties. They run the government and now they blame the government? Beck, Palin, O"Reilly and so fort are corporate very well pay lackeys to stir the waters so we can not see the truth. Any federal regulatory agency is headed by one selected by the industry. The FDA can't even force a egg recall or chicken vaccinations. And they want even less regulations? Kiss my a.s.s

King is bigger than the black makes him to be. He is an American hero and not black's hero. King's dream is American dream and not black's dream. The black should praise a white man embracing King, rather than attacking him of any bad intention. In fact, King's message is universally admired by all American. So I do not see why the black keeps wanting to claim, or reclaim King is their own. Just bacause of his skin color? Aren't we suppose judge by the "character" instead? The same goes to Obama. The black keeps wanting to think he is their "black" president by expressing their "disappointment" about him not doing enough for the black. The black keeps on saying that the "disadvantaged" is under-educated. The fact is that the black kids are not coming to the classes. The black needs to be honest themselves and attacking Glenn is not going to do much good. They are making this a race issue--the same old message and the only card that they want to play. Just look at other minorities and other dis-advantaged groups. They are busy pulling themsleve ahead, instead of ralling all day long about racial discrimination.

The Left sees Obama as just another super pro-Capitalist politician, like Bush. Obama's health and finance reform bills were written by the healthcare industry and big banks. When the gov option was dropped, health care reform became meaningless. Also, Obama continues the Afghan war. Instead of reaching out to Muslims, he's killing them by the score in both Afghanistan and now Yemen. Obama is actually showing he's a fairly right wing politician. At a minimum, he is "Bush lite."

To Matt DeLong's delusional response to "his critics who attack his wealth...."

What a wonderful world Mr. Delong must live in where the entire history of American oppression, social injustice, and prejudice do not seem to exist and everyone truly has an equal chance to succeed. For individuals who are completely ignorant about the reality of our American history that still impacts the majority of minorities in this country because they have never had to consider their own privilege or how it has carried them throughout their entire lives. For those who have never had to consider how their race or ethnicity might impact a job interview, or how other caucasian folks might look at them walking through their nice suburban neighborhood, I suppose it must seem like everyone has it as easy as they do. How separated from reality must Glen Beck be to believe that he truly earned his success and wealth in this country?

It's absolutely amazing that anyone follows this clown. He makes it up as he goes along, and they just sop-it-up like it's gravy. He recently he told his audience, "God wants you to buy gold." And he's a spokesman for a company whose owner said that, "Our spokespersons say what we tell them to say." I'm not making this up! How can so many people be so stupid.

What is wrong with freedom of speech and freedom for peaceful assembly for All? Is it now regulated for just one group of society? Each "side" of the political and social strata had their say no matter what side of the fence one chooses to reside. Has it become illegal?

The punishment meted out to Sodom and Gomorrah was for evil practiced collectively. Although our personal behavior and relationship with God will shape our individual destiny we also have a responsibility for what we do as a Nation. If we support the theories propounded by Beck and his promoters we will pay the price for our stupidity.

I trust a Mormon so much more than I trust Obama and the radical administration of his and the liberal Democrats. People in this country, the majority, do not have any trust in Washington; we know our government is on the path of destruction of this country. We will stand by Beck, the conservatives, the patriots, but not the politicians who are giving our country to China, bankrupting our country, leading it to socialism. Obama was a HUGH mistake and the people who voted for him should be ashamed and angry with themselves; they have placed this country's future in the hands of someone who's aim is to make the U.S. a socialist nation. Obama favors the Islamic religion; he has made that clear and if you don't see it, you are blind. Let us take back our country starting this November and rid our country of the illegals, muslims and the radical politicians like Obama, Pelosi, Reed, etc. Don't do nothing as the Germans did in the 30's and 40's.

I trust a Mormon so much more than I trust Obama and the radical administration of his and the liberal Democrats. People in this country, the majority, do not have any trust in Washington; we know our government is on the path of destruction of this country. We will stand by Beck, the conservatives, the patriots, but not the politicians who are giving our country to China, bankrupting our country, leading it to socialism. Obama was a HUGH mistake and the people who voted for him should be ashamed and angry with themselves; they have placed this country's future in the hands of someone who's aim is to make the U.S. a socialist nation. Obama favors the Islamic religion; he has made that clear and if you don't see it, you are blind. Let us take back our country starting this November and rid our country of the illegals, muslims and the radical politicians like Obama, Pelosi, Reed, etc. Don't do nothing as the Germans did in the 30's and 40's.

I trust a Mormon so much more than I trust Obama and the radical administration of his and the liberal Democrats. People in this country, the majority, do not have any trust in Washington; we know our government is on the path of destruction of this country. We will stand by Beck, the conservatives, the patriots, but not the politicians who are giving our country to China, bankrupting our country, leading it to socialism. Obama was a HUGH mistake and the people who voted for him should be ashamed and angry with themselves; they have placed this country's future in the hands of someone who's aim is to make the U.S. a socialist nation. Obama favors the Islamic religion; he has made that clear and if you don't see it, you are blind. Let us take back our country starting this November and rid our country of the illegals, muslims and the radical politicians like Obama, Pelosi, Reed, etc. Don't do nothing as the Germans did in the 30's and 40's.

Obama's popularity will continue to slide as long as the economy is in the cellar. That's also the most effective weapon of the Right to go after him with. The problem for the Right, it's running on a negative and they have nothing with which to fix the economy either. The danger on the Right, if the economy ever does come around, Obama's popularity would skyrocket.

Beck is a nut case...This reminds me of Hitlers rallies in Nuremburg in the 30's. Pandering to the religious right in times of economic uncertainty. Fox news sponsored by fat cats and wall street to keep failed Bush economics alive! Via tax cuts for the rich...

Beck proves being the freak show geek who bites the heads off live chickens can pay off handsomely indeed, especially with his easily-led rabble and sheeple willing to indulge their more base, rank desires.

I think it was so lovely to see all those obese white folks out enjoying the sunlight yesterday. And since they had soooo many neighborhoods in DC to avoid, I'm sure the little extra exercise didn't hurt them either. It's always nice to picnic on the Mall; I only hope those good Christians thanked the govt for ensuring an orderly assembly on public property & thanked the Park Service for cleaning up after them.

Disagreeing with someone does not create an enemy list, however, when you have frauds out there like Beck than the list begins.
We all have right to our beliefs, and, I like you do not support the name calling etc.
But, have you read posts that show total disrespect for our president? The name calling, insinuations, racism are supported promoted by the likes of Beck, Palin, Bachman etc. I cannot post anything "nice" about those out to destroy what our United States of America truly stands for.

To his critics who attack his wealth, Beck said the money doesn't matter. "I think it's going to be worthless," he said, adding that he doesn't know "if it's going to be gold or acorns" that America will use as currency in the future.
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Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.

22 And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.
23 And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!

24 And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God!

25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Jesus also instructed his followers to render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God what is God's.

Something that too many of us are unable to do. I fear heaven is probably a very empty domain.

Yes! We have a problem in America: Corporate greed. They totally corrupted both parties. They run the government and now they blame the government? Beck, Palin, O"Reilly and so fort are corporate very well pay lackeys to stir the waters so we can not see the truth. Any federal regulatory agency is headed by one selected by the industry. The FDA can't even force a egg recall or chicken vaccinations. And they want even less regulations? Kiss my a.s.s

Obama's base is fading away. He has a minus 15 to 22 percent with voters who strongly support and strongly disaprove of him on a daily basis.
also
Sixty-five percent (65%) of Likely Voters in Illinois are at least somewhat angry at the current policies of the federal government, according to a new Rasmussen Reports statewide telephone survey.

That finding matches the level measured nationally, and includes 41% who are Very Angry at the government’s policies.

WOW! The bad behavior of a handful of people at a precinct makes for a national conspiracy and reason for a nation full of Fox watchers to worry about while Rome burns at the hands of policies they supported for the last 30 years. AND they want to continue them.,....

Glenn Beck is just the latest in a long string of snakeoil salesmen and evangelists who will do or say anything to make a buck on the back of ignorance. Be careful who you blindly follow, think for yourself for a change. Beck spent 20 years as a radio "shockjock" building ratings while insulting,trashing or verbally attacking anyone he didn't happen to agree with as long as it sold ads. Beck used drugs and alcohol in order to live with his on air hypocrisy. This guy is a dangerous joke on the unthinking.

Now go home, Virginia Tea Partiers. Go collect your military retirement check with the jacked up
disability payments. Go back to work for your defense contractor or at the Pentagon. Remember, we must continue to fight all that government waste and that "big bad government." Isn't "restoring honor" wonderful?

What billionaires financed Beck's phony rally. So conservatives want to take back a government they helped destroy? Faith? In what, a group of lilly white racists? I don't think so. I wouldn't buy a cup of lemonade from this idiot.

As much as I read the new testament I can't find any resemblance between Christ teaching and Beck's or Palin version of Christianity. I think we have here in America a army of anti Christ. I'm scare now.

Mormons like Glen Beck believe that black people are an inferior race, as written down and thought to them by their founder, and will serve whites as slaves in heaven.

"Chapter 15 is entitled, "The Seed of Cain." Chapter 16 is entitled, "The Seed of Cain After the Flood."

"Not only was Cain called upon to suffer, but because of his wickedness he became the father of an inferior race" (p. 101).

"Millions of souls have come into this world cursed with black skin and have been denied the privilege of Priesthood and the fulness of the blessings of the Gospel. These are the descendants
of Cain" (p. 101).

"Brigham Young declared that the flat nose and black skin were part of the mark put upon the descendants of Cain: "Cain slew his brother... and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin ..." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 290)
"Moreover, they have been made to feel their inferiority and have been separated from the rest of mankind from the beginning" (p. 101)."

It is no surprise to hear Glen Bleeeh call President Obama racist names or that, with his rally of lemmings, he wants to purify the country by "restoring honour" since his core belief is that America has beeb dishonoured by having an African American president.

Matt DeLong writes, "...referencing an alleged incident of voter intimidation on Election Day in 2008...."

Alleged? My eyes do not lie. I watched a video tape of militant uniformed Black Panthers intimidating white voters by waving a billy club while yelling, "You are about to be ruled by the black man, cracker!"

Barack Obama and Eric Holder stood and applauded those violent black racists who are bent on preventing white Americans from voting during elections.

Those Black Panthers were ruled "guilty" in a court of law.

You, Matt Delong, label this "alleged". My presumption is you are blind to truth, or simply lying.

The revolutionaries in the American Revolution and the French Revolution used liberal philosophy to justify the armed overthrow of tyrannical rule. The 19th century saw liberal governments established in nations across Europe, Latin America, and North America. Liberal ideas spread even further in the 20th century, when liberal democracies triumphed in two world wars and survived major ideological challenges from fascism and communism. Conservatism, fundamentalism, and military dictatorship remain powerful opponents of liberalism. Today, liberals are organized politically on all major continents. They have played a decisive role in the growth of republics, the spread of civil rights and civil liberties, the establishment of the modern welfare state, the institution of religious toleration and religious freedom, and the development of globalization.

I AM CONFUSED AND I REALLY DON'T GET IT; WHAT THE HELL WAS THIS RALLY ABOUT ANYWAY.

On top of everything, this "POLITICAL PUNDIT" that connects everything to politics and race says the following:
"I Have a Dream" speech in the same location, was intended to reclaim the mantle of the civil rights movement from politics for "people of faith."

If there is a proper person to recalim civil rights from politics, for sure that can't be Glenn Beck. As might as well call Osama Bin Laden to reclaim jihad from America.
This rally was rellevant completely only on plotical aspects, so if Glenn Becks mission was to "recalim civili rights from politics", he absolutely failed because he was not honest about his real intentions.

How would Glen Beck see past his own EGO to see or hear any critic. Glen Beck is a SOAP SALESMAN for the Fox PROPAGANDA MACHINE FOR SUCKERS WHO BUY THE SOAP. Neither He or FOX have any redeeming features whatsoever, I fail to see what other purpose they wish to serve,

To the TEA PARTY. Someone tried your effort and we lost. It was called the CiVIL WAR.

PS I changed sides and married the woman of my choice regardless of race, creed or color

How would Glen Beck see past his own EGO to see or hear any critic. Glen Beck is a SOAP SALESMAN for the Fox PROPAGANDA MACHINE FOR SUCKERS WHO BUY THE SOAP. Neither He or FOX have any redeeming features whatsoever, I fail to see what other purpose they wish to serve,

To the TEA PARTY. Someone tried your effort and we lost. It was called the CiVIL WAR.

We should never forget what Beck said about Pres. Obama as we should never forget how Sharpton came on the national scene. They are both con artist out for themselves. I partly blame MSM for keeping them in the spotlight - especially MSM who use Sharpton as a spokesperson for blacks when the majority of blacks see him as a disgrace and only used by media so that they can further damage blacks - I know that seems crude but MSM has a history and some think that history is not good towards blacks.

Actions speak louder than words. A person does not speak about Christianity while promoting hate, anger, fear, spouting lies, ridiculous accusations.
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But the question is whether he is actually promoting hate or is merely being presented by liberals (with a political agenda) of promoting hate.

When I read the postings on WaPo, I find far more hateful postings from the left than from the right.

Liberals at one time used to be thoughtful and kind people. But they have changed. My explanation is that they hated Bush and now that hatred has become a habit so they react to anyone who does not agree with 100% of their agenda with hatred.

Alveda King is MLK's niece but she committed the two sins of being opposed to abortion (which MLK also was), and showing up at Beck's rally. So she too is an object of hatred.

Reagan said that anyone who agreed with him 80% was a friend and an ally and not a 20% traitor.

Nixon by contrast had an enemies list.

Present day liberals are far more like Nixon than they are like Reagan. (And they hate Reagan).

To his credit, Obama is NOT like Nixon. I am talking about Ms. LITS, Ms Liberal in the street. The most important thing for HER is the right to kill foetuses. Anyone who does not endorse an unlimited right to kill foetuses goes on her "enemies list", JUST like Nixon.

How would Glen Beck see past his own EGO to see or hear any critic. Glen Beck is a SOAP SALESMAN for the Fox PROPAGANDA MACHINE FOR SUCKERS WHO BUY THE SOAP. Neither He or FOX have any redeeming features whatsoever, I fail to see what other purpose they wish to serve,

To the TEA PARTY. Someone tried your effort and we lost. It was called the CiVIL WAR.

PS I changed sides and married the woman of my choice regardless of race greed or color

"Beck said Obama made the case in a speech to students that "your salvation is directly tied to collective salvation," which Beck said was "a direct opposite of what the gospel talks about ... Jesus came for personal salvation." Beck said "people aren't recognizing [Obama's] version of Christianity."

Beck held a revival meeting. What specifics did he offer (other than prayer) to sort out Americas problems? What specifics did Ms Palin offer?
Long on rhetoric but short on answers is how I view the Beck/Palin 'ministry'.
I felt like I was watching the 720 Club on steroids. It solved nothing. Nada. Rien.
So Mr. Beck, enjoy your pay increase, and keep plugging for tax cuts for the other rich guys. As if you don't have enough already. You can only eat so much.

Those crowd estimates are definitely stretched. AP is estimating 80,000. Of course, Michelle Bachmann already claimed a million, based on, well, whatever Michelle Bachmann bases her thinking on, which is probably not anchored in the natural world. The first Tea Party rally drew about 70,000, though organizers claimed half a million. They even used an old photo to support their claims, forgetting to put in the American Indian Museum.

The estimates I've heard from folks who went put the figure at under 100,000, artfully arranged by Beck staffers and volunteers to mimic a much larger crowd in photo opportunities. From the crowds in the Metro, very much out-of-towners from the Midwest and South.

Beck is essentially a sad man who has led a very sad life. This is just his newest attempt at self-invention. It is interesting that so many who are talking about Christian things are listening to a non-Christian to lead them. Beck is as much a Christian as Obama is a Muslim. He will come to a sad end like Jim Baker and Jimmy Swaggart and a multitude of demagogues before him. Within a couple of years he will either suffer a breakdown, or have some greatly embarassing personal revelation come out. As dizzying as his rise, so will be his fall.

A lesson for Glen Beck and his nitwit followers from George Washington: "All possess alike liberty of conscience and immunities of citizenship. It is now no more that toleration is spoken of, as if it was by the indulgence of one class of people, that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent national gifts. For happily the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens, in giving it on all occasions their effectual support."

"In Mormon theology, the god of our planet is believed to have once been a man on another planet, who through self-effort and the help of his own father-god, was appointed by a counsel of gods in the heavens to his high position as the god of planet Earth, and now has a physical, resurrected, glorified body. Mormonism teaches that through the atonement of Christ and by their good deeds and "holy" living, men can one day become gods, and with their multiplicity of "goddess wives," populate their own planets. "

Those critics would be lazy welfare check collecting left liberals who are content to spend their lives smoking pot in the back of used book stores.

Attacking Americans who become successful through hard honest work is simply abhorrent. This is a display of envy by lazy left liberals, an envy of those of us who work our fingers to the bone to be successful.

This left liberal envy of the successful is so psychotic, Obama and left liberals both demand and expect us successful Americans to cut them welfare checks to support their lazy lifestyles.

Left liberals contend hard work and success is a legitimate point of critique yet have no shame about collecting welfare checks provided by high taxes upon those of us who earn an honest living.

When Beck and Hattrick produced a local version of Orson Welles' "War of the Worlds" for Halloween -- a recurring motif in Beck's life and career -- Kelly told a local reporter that the bit was a stupid rip-off of a syndicated gag. The slight outraged Beck, who got his revenge with what may rank as one of the cruelest bits in the history of morning radio. "A couple days after Kelly's wife, Terry, had a miscarriage, Beck called her live on the air and says, 'We hear you had a miscarriage,' " remembers Brad Miller, a former Y95 DJ and Clear Channel programmer. "When Terry said, 'Yes,' Beck proceeded to joke about how Bruce [Kelly] apparently can't do anything right -- about he can't even have a baby."

Actions speak louder than words. A person does not speak about Christianity while promoting hate, anger, fear, spouting lies, ridiculous accusations. This man will rant whatever will get him the headlines and more money.
Christians love their fellow man, have compassion for the less fortunate, do not discriminate against others because their faith, beliefs are different, will not support hypocrasy, show boating and unite for the survival of us and our country.
What is so sad and disturbing is that some have allowed theirselves to be used, manipulated, brainwashed by those who only care about their own personal agendas.

Beck...the convenient Christian/Mormon talking about President Obama's theology. And just when was it he heard Obama talk about "collective salvation" in the context of faith? The man is an idiot when it comes to Christianity or he would have recognized Obama's grace under fire, let alone his own antics under the guise of his 'religion'. If, indeed, pride "goes before a fall", then we should be hearing very loud thud in the not too distant future. A lot of thuds, I would imagine.

Re: his comment "Beck said "people aren't recognizing [Obama's] version of Christianity...."" I find it intriguing that Beck feels he can speak for ANY people. But as long as he's thrown down that ignorant gauntlet, I'll respond:

People aren't recognizing Beck's version of Christianity. Not even Jesus Christ himself would recognize Glenn Beck's exclusionary, ignorant version of Christianity.

And the real clincher is this: the Founders did not in any way recognize Christianity as the means by which this nation should be governed, nor even as a sort of universally-interpreted means by which the PEOPLE of America should live their lives.

Beck, for all his self-serving prattle ignorance and lack of comprehension of what America TRULY is: is at the least (his own self-proclaimed title) a clown, but at worst: a highly dangerous instigator of anti-American sentiment. Watch him, listen to him - believe him: at your own peril.

To his critics who attack his wealth, Beck said the money doesn't matter. "I think it's going to be worthless," he said, adding that he doesn't know "if it's going to be gold or acorns" that America will use as currency in the future.

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