So some want to outright ban ALL guns (as predicted long ago by people who watched the libs) in urban areas. So, since 95% of us live in cities today, 500,000 law-abiding hunters and target shooters would have to give up all guns (shotguns, rifles, pistols) because of the actions of a tiny "minority" who like to shoot each other. Bravo, liberals. Way to be fair, confiscating with no compensation at least $500M worth of guns for NOTHING. It will do NOTHING to reduce thug shootings since none of those apes EVER qualified for a legal firearm's license.

Post by Liberals are VERMIN!So some want to outright ban ALL guns (as predicted long ago by people who watched the libs) in urban areas. So, since 95% of us live in cities today, 500,000 law-abiding hunters and target shooters would have to give up all guns (shotguns, rifles, pistols) because of the actions of a tiny "minority" who like to shoot each other. Bravo, liberals. Way to be fair, confiscating with no compensation at least $500M worth of guns for NOTHING. It will do NOTHING to reduce thug shootings since none of those apes EVER qualified for a legal firearm's license.---This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.http://www.avg.com

Only 75% of us live in urban areas. I live in Newton (urban) and wouldfully support a ban on firearms in urban areas. If a farmer wants a.303 to shoot ground hogs on his farm fine with me. 10 years prisonminimum for having a firearm in a city or suburban area. But as it issome judges will not enforce the mandatory minimums for having illegalhandguns. Less guns on the street the better off our society will be.

Post by Liberals are VERMIN!So some want to outright ban ALL guns (as predicted long ago by people who watched the libs) in urban areas. So, since 95% of us live in cities today, 500,000 law-abiding hunters and target shooters would have to give up all guns (shotguns, rifles, pistols) because of the actions of a tiny "minority" who like to shoot each other. Bravo, liberals. Way to be fair, confiscating with no compensation at least $500M worth of guns for NOTHING. It will do NOTHING to reduce thug shootings since none of those apes EVER qualified for a legal firearm's license.

Uh. . . you're making statements that are pure b.s. as usual. If you have anything to back your " 500,000 law-abiding hunters and target shooters would have to give up all guns (shotguns, rifles, pistols)" and "confiscating with no compensation at least $500M worth of guns" . . . . post it here.

What police seizures of guns used for illegal purposes is showing is that the 'source' of these guns is other Canadians. That means that Harper's dissolving the federal firearms registry has allowed those who can legally buy guns - those without a criminal record or history of mental illness - to purchase guns and then resell them to the "thugs and apes".

We, on the left flank, predicted this all during the vehement discussions that took place during Harper's reign. And here's what is happening now in Canada as versus what an American state - Oregon - does with a registry for purchases.

We USED TO have such a registry in Canada, remember? Then we got a Stephen Harper government and a whole lot of things went to hell.

Post by Liberals are VERMIN!So some want to outright ban ALL guns (as predicted long ago by people who watched the libs) in urban areas. So, since 95% of us live in cities today, 500,000 law-abiding hunters and target shooters would have to give up all guns (shotguns, rifles, pistols) because of the actions of a tiny "minority" who like to shoot each other. Bravo, liberals. Way to be fair, confiscating with no compensation at least $500M worth of guns for NOTHING. It will do NOTHING to reduce thug shootings since none of those apes EVER qualified for a legal firearm's license.

Uh. . . you're making statements that are pure b.s. as usual. If you have anything to back your " 500,000 law-abiding hunters and target shooters would have to give up all guns (shotguns, rifles, pistols)" and "confiscating with no compensation at least $500M worth of guns" . . . . post it here.What police seizures of guns used for illegal purposes is showing is that the 'source' of these guns is other Canadians. That means that Harper's dissolving the federal firearms registry has allowed those who can legally buy guns - those without a criminal record or history of mental illness - to purchase guns and then resell them to the "thugs and apes".We, on the left flank, predicted this all during the vehement discussions that took place during Harper's reign. And here's what is happening now in Canada as versus what an American state - Oregon - does with a registry for purchases.We USED TO have such a registry in Canada, remember? Then we got a Stephen Harper government and a whole lot of things went to hell.http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/most-illegal-guns-in-b-c-from-within-canada-report-1.23106048

People aren't holding up stores and shooting each other with hunting rifles genius. Most illegal guns are smuggled in since it is ILLEGAL for ANYONE to own a handgun with less than a 4" barrel. Every .25 and .32 cal handgun is ILLEGAL in Canada, as are all machine guns, semi-automatic rifles with barrels less than 23.5". These are the kinds of guns used by THUGS.

Post by Liberals are VERMIN!People aren't holding up stores and shooting each other with hunting rifles genius. Most illegal guns are smuggled in since it is ILLEGAL for ANYONE to own a handgun with less than a 4" barrel. Every .25 and .32 cal handgun is ILLEGAL in Canada, as are all machine guns, semi-automatic rifles with barrels less than 23.5". These are the kinds of guns used by THUGS.

So the "thugs and apes" are not respecting our laws on legality of ownership?Really?

Then maybe it's time to trace their source of weapons - rifles, handguns or semi machine guns - to those who ARE buying them and then reselling them to the thugs and apes?

Post by b***@gmail.comThen maybe it's time to trace their source of weapons - rifles, handgunsor semi machine guns - to those who ARE buying them and then resellingthem to the thugs and apes?

That would be the people who smuggle them into the country.

They smuggle them between the gun shops and the criminals on the streets?Oh, sigh . . . . another dim bulb. (Don't discount adding solar power, 'wakefield')____________________________

Criminals now getting their guns in Canada: police

RCMP see a disturbing shift in B.C. where majority of guns used illegally are acquired through legal sources

Langley resident Christina Stover obtained a firearms acquisition licence just last year, which entitled her to buy weapons at any gun store in Canada.

Within a matter of months, the 40-year-old former security guard had legally purchased 19 firearms.

Then, on March 11, police allege Stover, who had no prior criminal record, delivered a cache of guns to two men at their rented Surrey home on 192nd Street. All three were arrested the same day.

Ridge Meadows Supt. David Fleugel said the “investigation has resulted in police seizing a number of firearms that were being stored illegally, and may have been destined for a criminal element in a number of communities.”

Sources confirm that several firearms bought by Stover since last year have not been located. The investigation continues.

Police see a disturbing shift in where B.C. criminals are getting their guns.

B.C. gangsters used to get most of their guns from sources in the U.S. who smuggled them across the border. They now obtain most of their illicit firearms within Canada, either by stealing them from legal owners or using straw purchasers who have licences to buy them.

According to the most recent data available from the RCMP’s National Weapons Enforcement Support Team, 61 per cent of crime guns in the province were domestically sourced.

“And the balance, about 39 per cent, were believed to be smuggled from the United States or elsewhere. The source was not domestic,” said Insp. Chris McBryan, the officer in charge of NWEST’s western region.

NWEST worked with Ridge Meadows RCMP on the Stover investigation.

“NWEST is dedicated to providing assistance in combating the illegal distribution of firearms to organized crime,” McBryan said.

“This investigation is another example of how effective partnerships between NWEST and municipal policing services, like Ridge Meadows RCMP, counter the illegal movement of firearms within Canada.”

Stover appeared in Surrey Provincial Court Monday on eight charges of illegally transferring firearms and one of careless storage of a gun. She was released on $1,500 bail. She must keep the peace and stay away from her co-accused as well as any store that sells guns.

Surrey roommates Gualter De Medeiros, 54, and Warren Svensrud, 50, have also been released on bail. De Medeiros, who’s believed to have gang links, is charged with six counts of possession of a firearm knowing there was no licence, two counts of possession of a restricted or prohibited firearm with ammunition and one of careless storage of a gun. Svensrud is charged with two counts of possessing a firearm without a licence and one of careless storage.

Surrey has been plagued by rampant gun violence linked to the drug trade. Already in 2016 there have been 32 shootings, which have resulted in one murder, several injuries and property damage — including a bullet hole in the side of an RCMP community office.

Mounties seized 13 firearms in Surrey just last week.

Staff Sgt. Lindsey Houghton of the Combined Forces Special Enforcement Unit said his agency worked on several cases targeting smugglers bringing guns into Canada from the U.S. between 2010 and 2014.

In February, Tyler Ryan Cuff was sentenced in a Surrey courtroom to 42 months in prison for bringing firearms he purchased at Washington State guns shows into B.C.

At least 13 of the firearms he bought have been recovered at crime scenes in Canada.

Cuff was arrested after a CFSEU investigation in August 2014, months before Washington expanded background checks to include private sales of firearms, which are common at gun shows.

And in May 2015, Oregon also toughened gun laws by making background checks mandatory for all private sales, including online purchases.

Houghton said the changes in U.S. law plus enforcement action on both sides of the border have led to the change in how B.C. criminals obtain their firepower.

“Any of these deterrents will result in the criminals changing their behaviour and seeking out firearms in a different way,” Houghton said.

“Now it’s the overwhelming majority of firearms that make their way into the hands of people using them illegally come from legal sources — a legitimate law-abiding gun owner doing everything they can and their house gets broken into and their gun gets stolen.”

Houghton said “these criminals are like water: they’ll find the path of least resistance to get to their end goal.”

So police are changing their tactics, too.

CFSEU is working with Surrey RCMP and NWEST on a new “Safe City” project where they visit the owners of restricted and prohibited firearms whose registrations have expired.

If the owner no longer wants their firearm, police take it. I f they want to keep it, they must get their paperwork in order.

“The objective of this project is to educate firearms owners on the current laws surrounding firearms, as some may not even realize that they are non-compliant,” Surrey RCMP Asst. Com. Bill Fordy said. “Our aim is to reduce the number of illegally-owned and unregistered firearms in Surrey, as well as enhance public and police officer safety.”

McBryan, of NWEST, said the shift to domestically sourced crime guns is happening across Canada.

“The numbers aren’t exactly the same. The idea that most crime guns are domestically sourced now is consistent,” he said.

Conservative Surrey MP and former mayor Dianne Watts said she has heard from police that most criminals are now getting their firearms on this side of the border.

“If we go back a little bit in history, there was a huge influx of weapons coming up from the United States and that was the norm for quite a period of time,” said Watts, who represents South Surrey-White Rock.

“Because of the crackdown on that front, it morphs into something else. So now you have somebody who is inconspicuous and goes and purchases legitimately these guns and then sells them to people to undertake criminal activity. There has got to be a major lens put on that.”_________________________________________

Post by b***@gmail.comThen maybe it's time to trace their source of weapons - rifles,handguns or semi machine guns - to those who ARE buying them and thenreselling them to the thugs and apes?

That would be the people who smuggle them into the country.

Looks like KKKaren is up to her usual stupidity. Thug and apes aren'tusing legally acquired sporting and target rifles and shotguns. Legallypurchased restricted firearms cannot sell them to anyone who does nothave a valid PAL for restricted firearms. Their guns are registered tothem and will remain so until they are transferred to another licensedperson.

In the last 10 years there has only been one case that I know of thatinvolved a legally owned gun in the hands of its licensed owner.Meanwhile, there are more than 50 handgun murders of young black malesby other young black males. That is one out of more than 500 handgunmurders, or 0.05%.

Post by Liberals are VERMIN!People aren't holding up stores and shooting each other with hunting rifles genius. Most illegal guns are smuggled in since it is ILLEGAL for ANYONE to own a handgun with less than a 4" barrel. Every .25 and .32 cal handgun is ILLEGAL in Canada, as are all machine guns, semi-automatic rifles with barrels less than 23.5". These are the kinds of guns used by THUGS.

So the "thugs and apes" are not respecting our laws on legality of ownership?Really?Then maybe it's time to trace their source of weapons - rifles, handguns or semi machine guns - to those who ARE buying them and then reselling them to the thugs and apes?

"Thugs and apes" like the Ecolle Polyteq shooter who wasbrutally abused by his mother the apostate Nun?