I'm just going to express again that I hate luck tasks, especially with Bates and Anthony checking in 2nd after like searching 2 sandcastles. I don't blame the task for Matt and Daniel's elimination, since they were too arrogant with the boat task.

I'm shocked they all took the penalty. If I was racing, I would have not agreed to take the penalty hoping that I have kept good track at which sandcastles I knocked down, but then again, I wasn't out there for 3 hours either.

Ain't nobody got time for a 4-hour penalty when almost half of the sandcastles are already knocked down. Even if you didn't take the penalty, it will still take less time to knock down and rebuild them. Forget the pact, I'm worrying about myself.

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I come to a conclusion that Max&Katie and the Blondes survives because of HoO or the black twins can't swim .again this is not racist just because I call them black, its just easier for me to identity them without messing up their names.

I come to a conclusion that Max&Katie and the Blondes survives because of HoO or the black twins can't swim .again this is not racist just because I call them black, its just easier for me to identity them without messing up their names.

Idries & Jamil can barely swim decently judging from their big splash in the va'a coming undone. If you notice, Idries took a while to get back up to surface (WITH LIFEVESTS) and then he lost his glasses. So when that scuba task comes up, one of them will screw things up.

Rewatching the premiere's "next time on" on DVR, I can see trivial hints:

• During the stingray scene, you can see a couple boxes on the right side which might have to do with the scuba. "Scuba dive into the Pacific Ocean and retrieve a treasure chest surrounded by many sea creatures." Teams will have to do something with an item inside the box for sure.• The Pit Stop location is at a small point (maybe Motu Ahuna) where there are some shrubs and are able to view two nearby islands perfectly. Okay, if teams are running to the Pit Stop via land, then it's most likely a land task preceding the Pit Stop since we already have boat transportation checked off.

A point about the probabilities for the sandcastle task that was being discussed.

It's apparent when a sandcastle had been rebuilt as compared to the ones that had not been checked by any of the teams. I'm not totally sure why they were requiring teams to re-build each sandcastle as it was checked other than to use up time and make the task more difficult, but the practical nature of that instruction in the task certain makes it harder to compute real odds.

Apparently, during the episode, I think Max and Katie said they hope they were making a smart decision by not digging a sandcastle that they know has been rebuilt by another team. Hence, a Lena and Kristy moment could happen here should a team not DIG deep enough for the clue and then went on to rebuild the sandcastle and then all the other teams virtually will assume that there's no clue in there and not find a clue from it. I think it's kind of easy to tell which one was a sandcastle built by the production and which one was rebuilt by the teams based on the wetness of the sand.

Considering the odds, this task could be way harder than the Haybales task in TAR 6 and 15? Because the odds are decreasing exponentially with each clue found, for example, 3 to 4:400 sandcastles for the final three teams 3:whatever that's not been unrolled for the Haybales challenge in TAR 15 and we know there's only 186 of them. The strength required for both tasks are varying but let's not forget the heat factor, dehydration etc.

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I thought I'd indulge in some speculation about the second Express Pass this season. Phil says in his recent TV Guide interview that the holders of the Express Pass get a lot of attention from the other teams that want to be given the second Express Pass. I imagine that they will quickly realize that the second Express Pass puts them in a difficult position. The team that gets the second pass will be very happy and most of the other teams will be upset with them.

One of the things learned from our spoilers is that David of Connor and David gets a leg or Achilles tendon injury in one of the Bora Bora legs. Somehow, according to the timeline, they managed to survive until at least leg 5 despite the fact that David was barely able to walk and was using a wheelchair in some of the sightings. They seems pretty remarkable to me and after thinking it over, I figure that the team that wins the Express Pass in the first leg will end up giving it to Connor and David. The Express Pass would be one way for them to survive a leg. The other teams can't get too upset about that since Connor and David aren't going to be much of a threat to the other teams and they will be thinking it's only a matter of time until the injury catches up with them and they are eliminated. Given the situation, it's probably the safest play for the team with the Express Pass. Unless they really want to forge an alliance with another team and don't care too much about the other teams.

I suppose it's possible that Connor and David could win the first leg and get the Express Pass. In that case, forget all of the above.

Its kinda surprising that the speculated f3-f5 teams are either struggling, not dominating, always at the back of the back as of episode 3. The teams who are cuurrently always in the front pack is the one speculated to be leaving next.

Not sure if it has been posted elsewhere, but do we know the full extent of David injury. I am to have my ruptured Achilles' tendon surgery tomorrow and just was curious to know what his final diagnosis was and how he is doing now. I realize that because of the show's airing a few months after the injury that details like that are probably confidential but it would be reassuring to know that he is doing well. I saw the episode when it happened to him and immediately knew the pain he was feeling.

I dont think we do know, they are not using social media. Best of luck tomorrow, hope all goes well! Perhaps you can share the limitations/pain you experienced in the Episode thread, to help us understand better?

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There are 12 legs and the sighting in Belfast was on December 5th. That leaves just enough time to fly to London and have a regular leg on the 6th. Teams catch UA 923 from LHR to IAD at 7:40 am on the 7th.

Only problem is...so far we have not one little clue...no tweets, sightings, blogs, permit to be found for London! But there SHOULD be something else, they aren't going to be sitting in Belfast for that long either.

It is a puzzle!

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