I love Barner and I wouldnt draft him. Unless its to be just a 3rd down back.

And just out of curiosity, what awards has he won to be highly awarded?

2012•Pac-12 Offensive Player of the Week (at USC)•Walter Camp Football Foundation national offensive player of the week (at USC)•College Football Performance Award national running back of the week (at USC, vs. Washington State)

2010 •Pac-10 Player of the Week (Offense vs. New Mexico)•CFPA Punt Returner Performer of the Week (at Tennessee)•Paul Hornung Performance of the Week (vs. New Mexico, at Tennessee)

Yeah... TDs don't equal power, especially not for Oregon. And that list of awards is pretty "meh", to be honest.

I could see Barner developing into a good 3rd down back. But IMO he's like Michael Bennett. Track star speed and acceleration, but he doesn't have the leg drive to break tackles or the shiftiness to avoid them. If he learns to pass protect at a decent level, he will have some value (although not much value for a top-100 pick). But I don't think he has much of a future as a starter.

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Throwdown wrote:lol Wow, J doesn't want a Duck? what would you say about DeAnthony Thomas?

I would take him in the first round and watch him score 15 touchdowns a season for the next decade. If DeSean Jackson and Wes Welker had a baby and fed them speed pills for his first 18 years of his life, that baby would turn into DeAnthony Thomas.

He might slip out of the first round but if he does it will be because of his size just like Russell Wilson and he'll make people look like idiots in the same way that Russell has.

Throwdown wrote:lol Wow, J doesn't want a Duck? what would you say about DeAnthony Thomas?

Actually the only duck i've ever REALLY badly wanted the Seahawks to draft was LaMichael James. And this year Kiko Alonso. And next year De'Anthony and Colt Lyerla. (i'll be really interested to see who gets drafted first between Lyerla and Austin Sefarian Jenkins... i think they're both going to be GREAT NFL tight ends. I think ASJ will be like Tony Gonzales and Lyerla will be like Gronk. Personally i'd rather have the more beastly/athletic Lyerla, but like i said both will be great.)

But for the most part i havnt really been big on trying to draft Ducks in the past.

Thomas is a fringe 1st rounder. The guy weighs what 165? How many players succeed at that size? Desean Jackson is comparable but he's 3 inches taller, with an incredibly wingspan for his height. I can see him being successful as a gadget player (Darren Sproles) but 15 tds a season?

knownone wrote:Thomas is a fringe 1st rounder. The guy weighs what 165? How many players succeed at that size? Desean Jackson is comparable but he's 3 inches taller, with an incredibly wingspan for his height. I can see him being successful as a gadget player (Darren Sproles) but 15 tds a season?

He was 176 this year, 165 coming out of HS. Still not big, but I can see him playing in the NFL at 185 or so.

knownone wrote:Thomas is a fringe 1st rounder. The guy weighs what 165? How many players succeed at that size? Desean Jackson is comparable but he's 3 inches taller, with an incredibly wingspan for his height. I can see him being successful as a gadget player (Darren Sproles) but 15 tds a season?

So the size of the dog in the fight is the most important? The guy is money.

Honestly, Barner out of that system looks like a different guy.His post season tour has not been impressive.

Thomas is one of those other-worldly athletes that don't comearound often. Tavon Austin seems to appeal to a lot of people at, what, 165 lbs.?Thomas will play bigger, run faster and add value as a scary special teamer.

Barner: Don't see anything to get really excited about. IMO, nothing he does translates to the NFL very well. Great college player, but the kind that will struggle in the NFL. Just my opinion, and definitely not saying anybody is "wrong" about him, as none of us are GMs.

DAT: Really exciting player and quite honestly I see him as a Poor Man's Percy Harvin. Harvin is bigger, stronger, and has similar speed & start/stop ability. Harvin is a more natural WR as well. I don't see a 1st rounder when I watch DAT, strictly because he is so small and doesn't have a true position. Tavon Austin is a smaller guy, but he's built really well and is a true WR. I think DAT has a place in the NFL, but he needs a special OC to tailor plays to him. That's a really big thing to ask for a 1st rounder.

Again, just my opinions, but I see these guys in the same light as Pat White, Steve Slaton, etc...great college players who fit a specific scheme, but are not guys who can really last in the NFL game. Now, I know the NFL game is adapting college concepts, but NFL players are still big, strong, fast, and physical. We saw in the playoffs, that big, physical teams are still "in."

As a die hard Duck fan and someone that has watched every game of Kenjon's career at Oregon.. I agree with JSeahawk.

Don't get me wrong, Kenjon was an awesome back in college but too often I'd be frustrated with how he tried to bounce every run outside (have fun trying that in the league) or just fall down before he was hit to take as little damage as possible. Towards the end of the year, coincidentally, he REALLY reminded me of Shawn Alexander towards the end of his career in Seattle. Shying away from contact and just frustrating to watch.

I also share the opinion of most that DAT would be an awesome get for Seattle.. Having a guy like DAT that could catch balls out of the slot like a Wes Welker (but actually sure handed) and run after the catch like Percy Harvin would be an awesome tool for Russell Wilson. Colt is also going to be an absolute beast in the league. TE's always seem to be underutilized in Oregon's offense (Ed Dickson) and I think Colt is the best one to every come through the program. Check the links below for demonstrations of Colt's abilities.

Anyways, I do believe Seattle needs to draft another RB because we all know they don't have the longest shelf life and lets face it.. Marshawn's been in the league for a few years. With that said, I like the following in this years draft..

-Le'Veon Bell-Eddie Lacy-Marcus Lattimore (really doesn't have THAT much wear and tear, some injury concerns but if you think he'll be able to make a full return you might get the most talented back in this draft)-Stepfan Taylor (Lots of carry's but an absolute work horse)