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Santos Bonacci & guests

01/27/2013 radio show transcript

Santos:
Welcome one & all. A beautiful day today, 28th of January. Full moon last
night...beautiful in Australia...clear, clear skies. Today’s a rather coolish
day here. Welcome everybody. Welcome listeners. Thanks for joining. As I
promised, today will be a follow-up of last week’s show we did regarding the
perfected, superior claim of The People’s Trust. Without further ado, it’s with
great pleasure I welcome the rest of the guys. Lisa, hello, how are you?

Lisa
Harrison: Hi, Santos. Morning, it’s raining here too. And I’m hoping the rain
doesn’t get too loud for you. I was hoping it would sound like a nice water
fountain in the background, but if it gets too much let me know.

Santos:
It does...it sounds great. What do you got, have you got a flat roof or
something to get that sound?

Santos:
Yep...nice summer’s day. Nice Aquarian summer’s day. Of course the northern
hemisphere people will not understand what that means. But we in Australia are
used to Sagittarius, Capricorn & Aquarius being very, very hot. But
normally those signs are associated with winter & the cold.

If
you do go out today folks, might pay to just mention for a couple of minutes
right above your heads at midnight, right now for the next couple of months,
will be the Winter Triangle & the Winter Hexagon. The Winter Triangle is
inside the Winter Hexagon. Once you identify the Winter Triangle, you will have
no problems finding the Winter Hex. Check it out guys, it’s glorious. When you
spot the Winter Hex, you will always see it there in the winter skies & you
will always point it out. You can’t miss it. Orion is right inside it. And so
are Gemini, the twins.

Bob,
are you there? (silence) I think we might have trouble with Bob. Anyway, look
we’ve got D joining us in a little bit...in about 15 minutes. So, Bob’s still
trying to get on the air. How are you guys anyway, first of all?

Chris:
We’re just being gobsmacked by stuff that’s starting to pour out. Just before
the show, Lisa said she’s gonna have to stop to sleep thing. (laughter)

Santos:
Yeah, I was wondering what I could do to do that too, because it seems like
we’re so busy these days, from spending all waking hours basically in front of
the computer doing all this.

Lisa:
Every Now moment is very, very full.

Santos:
Everything...everything.

Chris:
Extremely. Look there’s just so much to talk about. We talked about a lot on
the show last week. Obviously we can’t cover all the same ground again. We can
touch on stuff we went through last week, but there’e so many issues that are
prescient & directly related. I believe the astrology is actually...for the
next couple of months...is looking quite stunning, Santos. We started to talk
about that yesterday.

Santos:
Oh yeah, okay, let’s do a little bit of that too today. We’ll do that. I did
check out the skies for March & there’s some pretty powerful alignments.
There’s three...from the 24th of March, we have three major conjugations.
Mercury with Uranus, that’s a biggie. We have Venus & the Sun. We will also
have Mars & Neptune, if I’m not wrong....those three. That’s going to spill
a lot of powerful energy in the skies for my birthday. All the way
to...someone’s got some background noise by the way...what’s that?

Lisa:
Yeah, I can hear it too...it’s not me though.

Chris: No, I was just wondering what that is.

Santos:
Bob, are you there?

Bob:
I’m here, but it wasn’t me, I was on mute. And hello, Santos.

Santos:
Hey, how are you Bob?

Bob:
Fine...I made it here.

Santos:
Yes, you did. Well, we’ll sort out this noise in the background in a minute.
Never mind. Now umm, yes, we’ll talk about that in a minute. You know, guys, we
did cover a lot of stuff yesterday. What I want to do today is open the caller
lines in about uh...in the next...in the second hour. That way people can hit
you up with some pertinent questions. Now, we’re not giving any advice &
we’re not really experts here. We are just sorting through this ourselves. We
know all the ins & outs...well, not all the ins & outs. But we’re
working those out of The People’s Trust & we’re just trying to share as
much as we have. So, bear with us folks.

The
reason I took this show today was just to do a follow-up & to be able to
field as many questions as possible & perhaps cover stuff that we didn’t
get to in the first one. So, guys, if we were to speak today about the positive
subject of how we can now act knowing that we are under a perfected, superior
Trust. Now, the powers-that-be or were may not acknowledge it, but since the
rules of law are those & they perfected the Trust perfectly, we can
confidently go forward in the light & in the knowing that this Trust has
been perfected in the eyes of Heaven.

Now
we know that the corporations that currently operate on this planet do not
acknowledge that. So, there’s probably going to be a little bit of
confrontation there. But how can we, knowing that we are under this Trust, how
can we live now & how can we...if we’ve got cases in court & we’ve got
letters to write & we’ve got rates to pay & struggles with the banks
& all sorts of situations...what can we do? You know, what practical things
can we do?

Lisa:
Santos, can I just start by saying that they’re not acknowledging it...from
what I understand, they can’t acknowledge it without admitting it...so to
speak...without acknowledging & admitting & taking on the liability.
So, they have to ignore it. And they’re caught between a rock & a hard
place. They can’t admit it & they can’t rebut it. They stand unrebutted,
because they are unrebuttable. Any attempt on their part to rebut is actually a
form of admission.

Bob:
And what it is they’re admitting to is high treason...which is punishable by
death in most countries. So, they’re not going to self-incriminate themselves.
They’re not going to openly confess to anything.

Lisa:
You just went a little bit garbled there, Bob.

Santos:
Yeah, he said they’re not going to openly confess to anything.

Bob:
Yeah, they’re not going to self-incriminate themselves.

Santos:
(several talking at once) Go, Chris.

Chris:
I was just going to say, one of the aspects of this is when you use these UCC
filings...I think at this point in time...if you use these things, I think one
of the things that is going to happen, is that you won’t get any response from
them...because they can’t respond. And a relative of Bob’s has actually just
submitted some material to the bank, based on these UCC filings. Do you want to
speak to that briefly, Bob? Because I believe they’ve had no response.

(silence)

Santos:
Go, Bob, please.

Bob:
Oh, I’m sorry, I was muted. I was sitting here talking. Yeah, my uncle had a
court case & he was fighting against a line of credit that they were saying
that he supposedly owed.

He
submitted the UCC filings. He actually did the personal filing, had it recorded
& submitted the entire template that was provided from The One People’s
Trust, as far as the Declaration & Order is concerned. He sent that in,
along with the commercial bill & gave them 72 hours with which to respond.
Of course they did not respond & I don’t expect them to. But, as I learned
in kindergarten, silence is golden.

What
will eventually happen is either they’re going to try to ignore it...which is
something that...understand that they have always been pretending to be a
court...they’ve been pretending to be a government for 150 years...& it’s
all a pretense, it’s all a charade & they’re going to try & continue
that charade until people start to embody...& this is one of the things
that...you really have to...this whole idea of embodying the idea of being
free. And when you do that & you stand your ground & you remove all of
those illusions & you let them know that you know that they’re pretending,
then the charade is over...the game is over.

Because
they can no longer pretend to be acting in the place of any sort of authority
figure because there’s none there. It’s like a paper dragon & it may look
fierce & show it’s teeth & growl & even smoke. But, the substance
behind it is air & that’s all it is. People need to understand that. That’s
there’s no substance behind their authority unless you consent to it.

Chris:
Yep, it’s all done by consent, guys. And it all begins with our signature.
These people, although we know that the Bar is a group of dishonorable traitors
practicing their practice of legalese on you spelling that out with their black
magic spells in court on you with their bits of paper...that is dishonorable.
And yet, they need your signature so that they can “be honorable” in their
practices.

You
see, so they do all things in honor. First of all, they invite you to sin. Now,
I’ve done this in my presentations...sinning is signing. That’s why there’s a
silent “g” in there. Never, ever sign for anything, people. Never, ever sign
for anything. If you’re going to sign anything, box it or put “the.the”(?) in
front of it, because you are signing under duress or avoid signing anything.

Because
that’s how they do it. They want you to sin with them. If you can sin or sign
with their papers, then they lick their lips because they know that their magic
is perfected on you & they can act honorably, according to them. But,
they’re being exposed...beautiful things are happening around the world.

I
did mention last week about the Italians I am now hooking up with on a weekly
basis. For them to have discovered that the Republic of Italy is a corporation
& registered in New York & to find that their government is from New
York, is very, very upsetting. It’s very upsetting. Same thing is going on in
Australia. The state of Victoria where I was born is registered in New York.
The Commonwealth of Australia is registered in New York.

They’ve
done a switcherooni(?) on us. Basically, they’ve taken everybody off their
respective lands & brought them onto some kind of a maritime ship over
there in New York,

run
by the Vatican & the Jesuits & the Zionist banksters. They have to
cease & desist, I guess, what do you reckon, guys? Lisa, we also have Brian
from American Kabuki...can we get...

Lisa:
I think you’ve also got D there too in the queue...she’s already with us.
Before you bring her out, though, I just want to address the (inaudible) people
have is cops. Because they’re the first line of offense & you know,
ultimately they’re armed & dangerous & for the most part, they’re very
ignorant of who they really are & the costume they’re really wearing.

Even
as we’re in this process of trying to embody this sense of freedom & you
can be feeling amazing & driving down the road & doing nothing
absolutely wrong & see a cop & have that sense of fear just completely
overwhelm you. It still happens to me, even though I know I’m not doing
anything wrong, even in their eyes.

How
we then address these individuals, who for the most part I think really truly
do believe they’re doing the right thing & they believe they are who they
think they are. They think they are in a position of authority. They think they
are protecting the general public. Some of them I know are just looking for a
fight & believe everybody’s guilty. They’re just trying to figure out what
you’ve done wrong.

So
we need to change our relationship to them. And there are a number of ways we
can do that. For me personally, it’s about seeing them as people in costumes.
But it’s also...I think we need to go down to our local police station &
start having conversations with these people. You know, by preempting any
encounter with them. Just having a discussion with them & saying...guys,
present them with information, present them with YouTube videos, present them
with documents, present them with stuff. And just go, let me help you
understand.

Bob:
One of the things that is important to understand about these filings &
what makes these filings so very, very important in their use, is because these
filings...they’re coming from within. They’re coming from within the system.
They’re coming from within UCC. Because it’s coming from within UCC &
because they’re unrebutted & it’s part of the public record, what these
filings are saying is, these people who are issuing collections...who are
running private money systems...slavery systems...are guilty of treason. So,
when you present these documents the assumption is...because they are operating
in that capacity...that they are also guilty of treason & you are offering
them to prove otherwise.

Chris:
One of the things about what Bob’s uncle did is very important, in that his
document creates a link. His UCC filing, his personal UCC filing, is
permanently linked back to The People’s Trust filings. When & if the system
tries to contact him again to take up the court case against him that they
think they have, all he has to do is to point back to his filing which points
back to The People’s Trust filing & say, excuse me, you haven’t yet
rebutted my last claim.

You
know, please rebut. And at some point, he may wish to add certain conditions to
any further communications, which he’s also entitled to do.

That’s
the powerful part about the UCC stuff, is the inter-linking between previous
significant filings related to this case & your own. You create that
link...it’s permanently in place. They are forced to rebut. And you gotta keep
drawing their attention to it, because they’ll try to ignore it.

Santos:
Beautiful. Let’s elaborate more on this. We’ll bring in Brian. Brian, are you
there?

Brian:
Yeah, I’m here. Can you hear me?

Santos:
Yes we can...loud & clear. Thank you very much for joining us.

Brian:
Hey, thanks so much for having me. I appreciate you guys putting on the
call.

Santos:
Yeah, thank you. And also D...are you there, D?

Lisa:
I think she needs a couple of minutes.

D:
Hi, I’m right here. I was just fiddling with technology. (laughter)

Santos:
Hey guys, before we welcome you properly & get to hear from you, let’s just
go straight to a caller. Because it looks like we might be busy today. We’ve
got 253...can we take that caller then. So, 253, are you there?

Caller:
I am. How are you guys?

Santos:
Very well, thank you.

Caller:
This is Loey(?). Hi, D. Hi, Brian.

D:
Hi, Loey(?).

Brian:
Hi, Lois.

Lisa(?):
Hi, Lois.

Lois
(caller): Hi, babe. Listen, on that UCC, in the Declaration & so forth,
they have to do that three times. 72 hours, they don’t rebut. Another 72 hours,
if they don’t rebut. Another 72 hours, if they don’t rebut, then you can
foreclose on them. So it takes three times, not just one time & wait to
hear from them. If they don’t respond in 72 hours, you have to do it again. I
just wanted to clarify that with people, that they think they do it once,
that’s all they have to do. But they don’t, they have to do it three times.

Chris:
So it’s like in court, once you’ve said it three times, then you walk out.

Lois
(caller): Yeah, you never have to go back in court anyway with UCC & the
Declaration. All you have to do is file it three times with them & within
72 hours each time. And if they don’t come back at you, you can foreclose on
them.

Chris:
Now, Lois, if you mis-time that, if you come back, say 90 hours or 120 hours
later & refile, is that significant? Or is it just more than 72 hours?

Lois
(caller): I think it has to be 72 hours, but that would be a question that you
probably want to pose to Heather...that’s my daughter...Heather Ann
Tucci-Jarraf.

Chris:
Yes, yes indeed. Thank you for putting it out.

Brian:
Hey, I have a quick response to that...to you, Lois, ‘cause I was speaking to a
woman named Angelina on skype last night. And she’s been trying to fight this
traffic ticket, using all the...obviously not the UCC docs that have only come
out in the course of the last month or so...but through her own channels, she
helps people fight against foreclosures & what have you.

The
thing is, she believes she is going through all the proper procedures, but the
whole thing is getting sand-bagged. Because she’s just one person & there’s
nobody there to enforce the law on the people that are breaking it. The big
issue here & I know it’s going to be the main issue coming up for a lot of
the people that are going to be calling in, is how & where does the
enforcement come?

And
Lisa, I know you brought this up in the chat room recently...I just got done
watching the movie, V for Vendetta. I’m assuming most of the people on the call
have watched that movie.

The
significance & the parallels to real life that are going on between that
movie & our real life are so significant, I had an “Aha” moment. At the end
of the movie finale, all the guys come out in masks. It’s all the citizens that
are standing up to fight for their rights & fight for their freedom. They
made the comment at the beginning of the movie...People shouldn’t fear their
governments, the governments should fear the people.

When
one person tries to do this on their own, there’s a really good likelihood that
they’re not going to be taken seriously...there’s not going to be anybody there
to enforce it. But when groups, or masses of people, start to do the same
thing...I imagine a hundred people on the steps of a courthouse fighting
against the court systems & that kind of a thing will get media attention
& all of a sudden the people that are breaking the rules are put in a
position where they have to succumb to the reality that what they’re doing is
wrong & now all of a sudden because they’re in the spotlight they have to
address it.

Without
that, you could probably do this 72 hour rebuttal three times in a row & do
it completely by the book, but there’s a very good chance & likelihood that
it’s not going to get a lot of attention.

Lois
(caller): Well, according to Heather, then it goes to another entity & the
other entity forecloses on everybody else. So, that you’d have to clear up with
Heather. I mean, evidently, I’m not sure what or who the other entity is.

Lisa:
When it came to enforcement, actually here’s a quote from Heather...I couldn’t
put it any better: “We are DO'ing the mechanics of enforcement now...the one
people's part in the enforcement? Please, DO keep consciously choosing to
BE and DO...that has more effect then you know...that is one of the vital keys
to the mechanics of enforcement that is being DONE now. Full context and
knowing of the mechanics of the enforcement shall be visible after it is DONE.
Similar to the same template the Public Trust did in the foreclosure...we told
you after the mechanics were done...”

So,
I think people are...this goes back to actually what our other radio show is
all about, the collective consciousness, collective imagination...when you’re
being called to action to DO & BE, we need to fully understand the power
that we have as individuals within our own imagination. That is the DO’ing we
can do & that is the BE’ing we can be...is envisioning this & seeing it
& imagining it & through that creating it...the outcome that we want.

Don’t
underestimate the power of that, because enough of us have done that
individually & collectively, consciously & subconsciously, leading up
to this point that has allowed this to manifest the way it has right here right
now at the end of 2012. We all wanted so desperately to be free & for
change & we projected that into the collective(?). And we called it in
& this is what we’ve got. So, don’t underestimate it. That is a DO’ing
& a BE’ing that is so powerful.

Chris:
I would have to say that the act of sending the paperwork to them, is an
energetic transfer as well as a paper transfer. It’s a big sign to them that we
know what the game is & that time’s up. The more paper they get, the bigger
the message they’ll get. DO’ing that & BE’ing that is probably going to
amplify that energy & that’s what we’re gonna need to get it over the line,
because I think enforcement will roll out when this goes public. I’m not sure
we’ll get a lot of satisfaction, because the system will try to ignore it until
it just can’t.

Brian:
And that I think...was that Bob?

Bob:
Yeah...no that was Chris.

Brian:
Oh, Chris, this is Brian. I think that’s really it. I think when Heather wrote
that comment... what I got the sense of reading between the lines is
that...does everybody remember...I don’t remember if...especially D when you
were writing on your blog & a lot of the intel people...

they
were all in silence...you know, there wasn’t a whole lot of information going
out because everybody was supposed to be real tight-lipped. It was like there
was no updates & no updates. Well, The One People’s Public Trust, they were
the driving force that was behind what was going on during that silence. Right
now, they’re doing the same thing.

Even
myself & D & Lisa & some of the others that are in constant
communication with Heather...gosh, it seems like 24 hours a day over the course
of the last couple of weeks...we don’t even know exactly whats going on. If we
did, things would probably make a whole lot more sense for us individually
& we’d be able to share what we could.

Heather’s
very transparent. Everything for the most part that she shares with us, we
share on these shows. You know, the lid has been blown off this whole thing.
What happened then is the same thing that’s happening now. There’s something
big...I mean astronomically big...that’s going on behind the scenes right now
that’s getting ready to explode that is going to create an environment to
where...this is my belief...where I think the shadows & the remnants of
these systems that are still there to enforce these illegalities...like the
courts, the law enforcement & so on & so forth...the plug is going to
be pulled, from the socket.

And
this light is going to get shined into the darkest shadows, to where it just
all comes out. That’s the tipping point that we’ve all been waiting for. By all
means, I don’t think that anybody...that we should stop DO’ing & BE’ing
& creating this amazing energy. And everyone...gosh...the websites coming
up & various countries all over the world for One People’s Public Trust
& what they’re doing. I mean, it’s beautiful the energy that’s being
created. It’s awesome.

But,
I also truly believe that there’s going to be a time here in the very near
future where we’re not even going to need these documents. You know, people
aren’t going to have to go in & fight anymore, because the systems that
they’re fighting against...the remnants of the systems aren’t going to be able
to hold themselves up on the house of cards that they’ve stacked on right
now.

Lisa:
Yeah, this was said in the very beginning...there are no forms to fill in. I
don’t believe we have to do any paperwork ourselves. She also said recently
that the beast is starving. What we’re seeing, you know, with the
fear-mongering thats going on right now too, is the death throes of this beast.
Someone else gave a beautiful analogy on one of the shows I was on last
week...I can’t even remember...about the vine. You know, a building being covered
in a vine. The roots have been pulled out, it takes a while for the leaves
& the rest of the vine to die off.

Our
role, I think everybody’s role...when I say a role, all of us...is to help
spread the word, educate people, get it to the point where even those within
the system cannot avoid it...because they’ve all got...everybody knows somebody
who knows a cop...or has one in the family or a judge or a lawyer, you
know...make sure they get this information. Make sure it gets to them as well
& keep spreading the word.

Lois
(caller): Also I’d like to point out one other thing too is that there is a
site up there that’s called Individual Solution Society & The People’s
Trust & they’re trying to get donations. What I’d like everybody to know is
that The One People’s Public Trust doesn’t ask for donations. They don’t want
any money. Everything is free to the people. So, if you ever go to that site or
you see somebody asking for money, don’t do it. It’s not The One People’s
Public Trust.

(several
talking at once)

Santos:
Guys, just a minute, if I could just grab a caller who’s been waiting a long
time now, please. Sorry, hold your thoughts. Caller with number 707 please, are
you there? (silence) Hello, caller 707?

Caller:
Hello?

Santos:
Yes.

Caller:
Oh God, hi. I just want to ask you to define what the OPPT & The One
People’s Public Trust is for the layperson please.

Chris:
Who’d like to take that? (laughter) I’ll take a go at that. The People’s Trust
are a group of very skilled lawyers who, inside the system some years back,
decided to take a stand & used the system against itself to correct the
injustices they saw as being against humanity. They set about...in fact, I’ll
take this opportunity to read one paragraph out of the Paradigm Report that resulted
from their initial investigations & it reads like this, “The private money
for public use banking system is the constant foreign(?) denominator &
prime of all crimes against humanity, sovereigns, contract & commerce,
including but not limited to, breach of peace, trespass, involuntary servitude,
illegal fraud, coercion, force, theft & deceptive practices & acts.”

They
decided to turn the system on itself. They did a series of very complex
filings, where they resumed the public trust that was created in the original
Constitution of the United States. They rolled into it everybody on the planet.
They created an action where they defined the defendant as the debtor &
they rolled into that entity the entire system, the banking system. They
accused the banking system of...they accused the entire system of crimes
against humanity. Then they asked them to rebut, which they did not & then
they foreclosed & shut down the whole lot.

At
the same time, they created the basic structure for another completely
different type of governance, called a CVAC, which is a very well constructed
entity, certainly from my point of view & my opinion. So from our point of
view, what is The People’s Public Trust? The Public Trust itself consists of
us, every person on the planet & the planet, the Creator, okay? And
included in the planet, in the assets of the planet, are those things which we
consider of value, which at this stage is gold & silver, which has been
bound...it’s value has been bound to the Trust. So, The People’s Public Trust
is everybody on this planet...every single person, no one left out...no
borders, no governments, no corporations, ll of what we consider to be the
valuable assets on the planet, all gold & silver bound up & divided
amongst us equally in equity for our use & the planet itself, which is a
caretaker of us & we of it & Source. That’s The Public Trust.

Caller:
I love that. Thank you. I needed to know. I’ve been watching & listening,
you know, so thank you for that. Perfect.

Chris:
Don’t be distracted by all of the action that they took to shut the system
down. That was simply the clearing of the playing field to allow us to move to
the next level. It’s an amazing opportunity for everybody...equally.

Caller:
I believe in this. I do. I love you all & thank you.

Santos:
Welcome, thanks caller. Thank you very much. We do have another caller, please,
if you don’t mind friends. 239 is the area code. Caller, are you there?

Caller:
Yes I am, thank you. You guys are doing a wonderful job. I’m so proud of you. Just
a comment about the UCC documents. Something that I’ve been thinking about
& something I think would be a benefit if we could figure out how to get it
done...is to create a webinar that could teach folks that are in the know, that
are involved in what’s going on now, that are following the sites &
following the actions & that kind of thing...teaching them how to utilize
the UCC documents & then letting them go out in turn showing other people
how to do it & let’s just get this rolling. Is that a possibility?

D:
Can I jump in here for a second? This is D. I was just gonna say we have had
some of the most incredible people come forward in the last few weeks. People
who are BE’ing & DO’ing & have taken it upon themselves...who are in
Canada & the United States...putting together templates to be able to file
the documents for people to...complete instructions on how to fill things out.
Someone has built a forum, so that anyone who is filing UCC documents can get
together with everyone else & they can discuss & they can help each
other out.There is just tons & tons of people coming forward & saying,
okay well what can we do? Let’s go. I’m gonna BE & I’m gonna DO & this
is what I’m going to do. So, very soon you’ll see it.

Brian: Hey, D, talk about what Hope is putting
together also.

Hope:
Oh, that’s phenomenal. If you have not had a chance to read it yet, Hopegirl
2012 has put out the business plan. It is phenomenal. I posted it on RTS
yesterday, last night. I don’t have the link handy, so me trying to read it out
to you isn’t going to help. If you go to Hopegirl, her site, read the business
plan. It is a piece of artwork, written in the new paradigm of how business
should be in the new paradigm. It really is quite brilliant.

Brian:
Let me give her URL, so people can go on there. It’s hopegirl2012.wordpress.com
& the business plan is the FTW, which is the Fix the World organization
business plan. I’m only five pages into this thing, but it’s beautiful. I mean,
everybody asks, what’s business going to be like in the new age or when we get
into this new paradigm? Hope does a beautiful job of painting a real beautiful
picture, with a lot of research & a lot of hours & a lot of people that
have been involved in this from countries all around the world. It’s something
to get very excited about, so if you haven’t seen it, definitely go on her blog
& check it out.

Chris:
Yeah, well one thing, I’ve actually read that through, Brian & yes, it’s a
great piece & it’ll get people really thinking about new options. One of
the things that occurred to me while I was reading it, is it’s somewhat written
with the concept that the old system will be running alongside the new system
& would ultimately...it kinds of leaves out The People’s Trust effect, if
you like, of sweeping the playing field clear. If we do get that effect, if it
goes public & that does happen, what she has written about, Hopegirl, will
be far easier than she thinks.

Brian:
(laughter) I think so too.

Chris:
Yeah. Because she’s sort of written it...just want to put this thought in
people’s head...she’s somewhat written it from the thought of just the sheer
weight of people in some areas of the corporate world wanting to go in a
different direction, but ultimately, eventually, would take us there. Thats the
way I thought it would happen, I thought it might take 10 or 20 years.

But,
what I think will happen is that when we get the release of absolute data, that
you will find not just companies but entire sectors of industry...it won’t just
be one car company, all of the car companies, some of them might just
disappear, because there’s no reason for them to exist anymore. But what you’ll
get are the passionate people in that industry immediately being drawn to one
another when they realize the opportunity they’ve got. And they’ll reform
entire industries in a
very short period of time.

I
think that’s a possibility & that is just an exciting thought. I just
wanted to put it out there, because one of the things she talks a lot about in
her document is offering training & guidance & so forth. What we have
to bear in mind, is that inside these industries they have all the stuff they
need to have. All they’ve got to do is change their minds & make a decision
& the passionate ones will do that & the ones that were just working at
it as a job, will go off & do something else.

I
think the effect will be like a nuclear reaction, where energy spreads to
molecules around it & the whole thing just goes nuclear. I think it could
be extraordinary what we’ll see happen.

Bob:
There is one thing I wanted to speak to & that’s about the BE’ingness.
BE’ingness & I’m going to give a little...how important this is...because a
lot of time people hear these comments & they think, well this is in 5D
& I don’t understand it. I’m gonna give you a little 5D lesson ... short,
but sweet. Everything that you do, everything, you are in constant contact with
that one Source. Let’s call it space. Space is everywhere. It’s inside you,
outside you & it is one thing. It is energy & perfect balance.

Anything
that you do...& that includes thinking, feeling...is going out into the
space. And is instantly known by the entire space, just as if someone were to
touch your toe, your whole body knows that your toe has been
touched...instantly. Everything that you are thinking, everything that you are
feeling, is information. It is forming the space. Everything that you are
BE’ing is in an act of creation.

So,
when we ask you, what is it that you choose to BE, we make a choice on what we
choose to create. We do that by our predominance...whatever is the predominant
energy that is coming from us. If you are still in fear, if you are still in
that slavery mentality, if you are still bowing to an authority...well, you are
creating more of that reality.

Every
person that has come in contact with The One People’s Trust have been in an act
of creating it . Otherwise, you would just have not get this information. You
wouldn’t be listening. You wouldn’t be tuning in. It would never occur to you.
There are many people who are in that category right now. So, this in my
opinion, is probably the most important thing that’s happening on the planet
right now.

So
why isn’t it world-wide news? Because
not everyone is BE’ing free. If you are listening to this & have come in
contact, you are one of the creators also of this One People’s Trust. So, it’s
important for all of us to make those choices in what it is that we’re
creating. Because what it is that we’re creating is what we’re choosing to BE.

Santos:
Yep, beautiful...well said, Bob. Thanks for that. It’s the I AM & we are
part of the I AM, so how can we diminish it ourselves & separate ourselves
from All That Is. So, I AM is the name
& I do recall that’s one
of the things that Heather stressed...to be the I AM. We don’t have names. These are corporate persons. They’ve reduced
us to corporations, so that they...because, by law, individuals cannot be
taxed, but corporations can. So if you have a name & you go around
declaring that name, well it’s gonna be taxed. Because it’s a person, it’s
personal property, which belongs to the military-industrial complex. So, I AM
is the way to be.

So,
do we have Hope there I wonder? Okay, we’re still waiting for Hope. So, anybody
that would like to pitch in please.

Lisa:
I can address another question that comes up frequently about the CVACs. People
wanting to get the CVAC branches activated. You know, I’m getting emails from
all around the world, saying I’m from Italy or I’m from South Africa or I’m
from Croatia or I’m from Belgium, how do we get this CVAC activated?

I
got a response from Heather this morning on this, which is “CVAC and all
BRANCHES definitely can be used by the one people...however, Absolute Data (not
one piece missing) is coming out now...do the people want to make an
"interim decision" or an informed conscious choice based on the
Absolute Data?

Do
they want to make the conscious choice to not be responsible and be governed or
do they want to make the conscious choice to be responsible and practice
self-governance? FOR NOW, THE CVAC and all BRANCHES reserved are holding the
PTW in their place so that the one people of this planet of the opportunity to
receive all the data and make an informed choice by their free will, each one.”

So,
what I took from that is, it’s a matter of...like she said, at the moment
they’re being, the current structure is being held in place, so that we can all
catch up & catch our breath & allow ourselves to receive as much data
as we need, in order to make an informed choice about where to go next. Let’s
not rush into anything. Let’s allow ourselves to sort of sit & be within
ourselves & see what’s next. Not
everybody is ready for self-governance. I think we need to get to the point
where everybody is, to some degree at least. Does that make sense?

Chris:
Makes sense to me. I’d like to throw something else in here too, is some
information that came to me couple days ago, because I asked for it to come to
me & it came to me in the form of one of the students of Peter Shelton
& Michael Monk. He essentially was passing on a message to me & it was
this, that there’s going to be massive changes. That one of the issues is going
to be a great fear reaction from the general population, because just the
magnitude of the information is going to be overwhelming for them.

I
think this is playing into what Heather is trying to say to us, is that it may
be premature to jump in & activate the CVACs right now, because of this
information event, which appears to be imminent. we need...we can’t act
unilaterally at this point. There really has to be as many people as possible
all involved in the decision to activate a CVAC do it properly, because it’s
so...yes, you could start one, but then you really gotta do something with it
instantly. There’s a lot of responsibility there & it’s not to be taken
lightly.

His
message to me was that the fear reactions are best dealt with by going to that
empathic place to understand that we’re all going through different versions of
the same processes. Some of us are more ahead than others. As Lisa just said,
many people out there aren’t ready for this information. They have no idea any
of this is going on. They haven‘t got a clue. That cuts across society. That
cuts right across everybody around us. Like as we may, to really jump
in...should we be waiting until at last everybody has the chance to really
become aware of what’s going on.

The
other message he had for me, which I’ll just say briefly, is that the
lightworkers...the people workers who are actively pursuing this & also all
the endeavors where they are trying to help the planet energetically,
spiritually...are the most powerful group on the planet. They are pulling in
all sorts of different directions. The big message to them is, we all have to
pull together & the sooner you do it, the sooner we’ll all get over the
line. That we really have to start looking in the same direction & moving
forward is one.

(several
talking at once)

Bob:
There’s one thing I wanted to put out there to everyone who’s not on board with
The One People’s Public Trust, because I see a lot of myopic vision happening.
Please, please, look over here, pay attention to what’s going on around you.
Everyone has their own projects & things & their own aims. One of the
things I love about The One People’s Public Trust is it puts everything back to
equity, so that there’s no leaders. There’s no one that is placed ahead of
another. So anyone who resists an idea like that has an agenda. Im sorry to say
that, but it will show what your true intentions are, when you’re faced with
pure intent. That’s one of the things that I think we really need to have, is
pure intent. Go on, Lisa.

Brian:
Hey, Bob, this is Brian. I agree with you. I also think that...the problem is,
there’s a lot of people...in the seven billion people in the world, I couldn’t
tell you the amount that have heard of The One People’s Public Trust & then
the ratio of the people that have heard of it that have bought into the
truth...but I’m of the belief that over the course of the last ten years,
especially since 2011 & even most recently the last year...that things have
been happening in the world to slowly wake people up. I mean, I think we could
all agree on that on this call.

But,
there’s so many people that exist that...anytime that...it’s one of the cabal’s
biggest defense mechanisms...it’s what they use against us, which is the
terminology...it’s an urban legend or you’re a conspiracy theorist. They use
the terms like that against us to keep the masses in the dark. Without
something coming out into the open & shaking people up, because yeah
there’s going to be a lot of people that instantly go into fear mode, but
there’s also a lot of people out there who...they’ve seen & heard things
that may or may not be true in their mind, that they know something funny is
going on.

I
think that that’s...when we get to the point where Absolute Data comes out...I
mean, we’ve talked about it with Heather, with conversations before...there’s
going to have to be a whole re-education process that comes out to educate
people to the truth of their existence. I think that one of the big phases that
has been taking place in the background that have caused the view of all this,
oh there’s delays & this is why this is being delayed & that’s why
that’s being delayed.

I
think that what’s happening behind the scenes is trying to get to the point
where they can minimize the amount of fear to the highest degree possible. it’s
never gonna be perfect, because there’s a lot of people that have been living
in the dark. This is going to shake & rattle them.

But
it’s going to be the kind of people that are on this call & the kind of
people that are listening to this call & the people that are open-minded
that aren’t going to have to be there to hold space for these folks. Because I
think five years ago, if we were talking about this now, yes there would not be
enough people ready for this to happen. It’s gotta come. It’s going to shake
some people. For us to think that over the course of the next coming weeks or
months people are just gonna be more ready based on whatever it is that comes
out in mainstream media, we might be waiting forever. I’m kind of the opinion,
let’s rip the bandaid off & deal with it.

Bob:
I agree with you, Brian.

Lisa:
I agree with you too.

Bob:
The nature of the information is such that you can’t talk about one without it
leading into everything else. So, you’re talking about technology, you’re
talking about the existence of the galactic community, you’re talking about the
very nature of who we are...

Lisa:
Our true history.

Bob:
Our true history, yes.

D:
Absolutely.

Brian:
Correct. There’s so many layers to it. You know, you throw religion in there
& all of a sudden you have a real huge issue, because there’s many people
in this world who follow organized religion. That’s probably the one that’s
going to be the most difficult for people to cope with. But, it’s ultimately
truth that’s going to set people free. When people realize that the nature of
our existence is so beyond any spiritual concepts that they could ever imagine
or fathom, that the beauty that is ultimately going to come from truth...is
going to be something that is really...no matter who awake you think you really
are right now...it’s impossible to imagine, because it’s the nature of who we
are.

Chris:
One of the messages, one of the things that led from my discussion with Julian
Wells, the student, was that the reason for his message about the lightworkers
was they need to unite to remove the fear, okay? Because energetically behind
the background, int eh background, they’re capable of doing that. Just the way
mass meditation have a dramatic effect on many things. They will have a dramatic
effect on the level of fear, if they act as one. During the period of time our
Absolute Data is being released, if any lightworkers are out there listening to
this, this is really, really important. Because we can move forward much more
quickly & smoothly if we remove the fear.

Brian:
Wow, D, I can’t believe you talk to Heather...do you guys have your own private
skype going on?

D:
I’ve conferenced her in, but we all know...everyone I’m really sorry...

Heather:
Can you hear me now?

D:
There she is.

Brian:
There’s Heather.

Heather:
Hi.

Lisa:
Hi, Heather...we can hear you.

(several
voices in foreground & background talking at once)...

(unidentified
voice: get your little butt to sleep)...

Heather:
I feel like the Verizon commercial.

Brian:
Hey, we’re going to have to probably do what we usually do when we talk to
Heather, is just all put our phones on mute & let her talk.

Santos:
Yep, yep, can everybody mute because there’s a lot of background noise, guys
& just leave it over to Heather. Thanks, Heather. You’ve got the mike.

Heather:
(lots of background noise & distortion throughout Heather’s conversation)
Okay, a lot of people ask a lot of questions, like what has been done & all
of this. We can seek out & go down memory lane. But right now, there’s a lot of DO’ing(?)
that still has to go on.

So,
as far as the fear, I mean, look at the templates that have been used. If you
can get rid of the ego & greed, then you can get rid of the fear. Get rid
of ego & greed, it’ll come together. And I don’t care if that’s
lightworkers, community, nations, dropping of borders, whatever it may be. Divide
& conquer is their template. So, unify & DO together should be the
opposite one, right?

And
to clarify (inaudible), I’m the only one that has the legal background out of
the three of us. Caleb basically describes himself as a nerd. Randall is older
than us, so he has a lot of experience from 25(?) years ago...episodes where it
was attempted before. So, in this particular regard, we’re very diverse, but at
the same time, we work very well together because we’re all there for the same
goal. There’s no ego, there’s no greed. (inaudible). There’s nothing to fear.
If I went through the data that we work on, it would take so much time it would
actually hinder & delay. Usually when I get asked about enforcement, we’re
just going in there to do the enforcement. Can you guys hear me?

Santos:
Yeah we can. Look, just hang on for a minute heather please, because we still
have some background noise to sort out in a minute. Are you speaking through
D’s line?

D:
Yes.

Santos:
Okay, we just need to fix this at the board, so the board can mute all the
other lines out. Please bear with me, this is a bit of a complex process. We’ll
fix this now & we should have a better transmission from Heather. Sorry
about that, Heather, just technical problems.

Please
continue on & we are hearing you loud & clear, just a lot of background
noise. I think it should be better from now on. Thank you.

Heather:
Sorry, I’m not a techie...I wish I was. I guess what I would like to know is
how can I help you on this call? What is the main issue that you have or that
you are seeing right now from your listeners?

Santos:
Okay, guys, would anybody like to address that? What questions come up?

Lisa:
Well, I just know that the questions that are on that (inaudible) are all good.
the ones that keep coming to me are the people that are already (inaudible) in
the middle of a situation, whether it’s with a police situation or foreclosure
or maybe they’re in the process of purchasing a property...they’re dealing with
the system already & they want to know (inaudible)...they’re facing prison,
they’re facing fines, they’re facing foreclosures...what can they do? How can
we utilize this right here, right now?

Heather:
Okay, what I would say is this. You have a (inaudible) foreclosed on, okay? All
those agents, that are in that slavery system, still don’t even know what’s
going on. They take orders, they’re following instructions. It’s important to
remember that they are people too. Most of them are there for a paycheck. Most
of them are there to put food on the table & a roof over their head.

So,
be as kind & gentle as you can, but be as firm as you can too, as far as
saying this is who I BE...this is my law...my common law principle. Now, show
me your sworn & verified identification, your authority to act & what
law you’re operating under.

I
mean, that’s what it comes down to. That is BE’ing & it’s asking that
(skipped words) to do something to share her baby. I know that is not the
answer that people want to hear. They want to have the silver bullet, so to
speak. At the same time, what I’m doing is something that has been around for
eons, not just a hundred years.

Santos:
Wonderful, very true. Of course it takes a lot of consciousness & patience
& perseverance. These guys have been working on perfecting their trust
& their papal bulls. I mean, we can go back to 1302 with Pope Bonifus
really, couldn’t we? And say that that one is the big one that no-one has ever
been able to trump until People’s Trust. Would you agree?

Heather:
Yeah, that was kind of the key, with going back to prime...going right back to
Source. The only way to go back in & clear stuff out that is hidden or not
seen...so like...a lot of people have been sending me David Wynn Miller’s stuff
regarding quantum language & all that. Yeah, that’s a huge part of it &
he brings out a lot of information that is true. You know, data that hasn’t
been known for a long time. Only by those select few. Not even by our U.S.
Supreme Court, the purported U.S. Supreme Court...most of them didn’t even know
all that stuff. And there’s a whole bunch more they don’t know.

So,
the only way to go in & make sure everything was back to prime...starting
over...zero point...was through the same (inaudible) system that basically
enslaved everyone through. So, there’s no more hidden anything. Everything
needs to be transparent. If something isn’t transparent, there’s a reason why.

I
don’t choose to partake in that. Everything I do is transparent. Everything
Caleb, Randall ... everything that I choose to do with others should be
transparent. If it can’t be, there’s a reason behind it & you have to start
questioning what’s the self-interest or the special interest here that may be
damaging others.

Santos:
Yes, when everything is transparent & everyone is responsible, then there’s
no room for special interests.

Heather:
Well, the special interest is okay. Self interest is okay. Bur not when it
damages any other.

Santos:
Exactly. And enslaves mankind in the process. I’ve always said the system
works, it’s just that they don’t tell you how it works, number one, the first
evil. And the second one is that they’ve run the system in debt, rather than in
credit, which is impossible to experience any kind of freedom. There’s two
negatives that have already been repaired, really, with this.

Heather:
Yeah, I mean, everything’s been repaired. Now it’s just a matter of BE’ing
& you know, I was told all the way through that there were certain folks
that were not gonna give us the powers.

I
think right now what will be a hard concept for everyone to grasp is that the
powers-that-were on this planet, they’re really not the powers-that-were.
They’re brokers. They really are just brokers, similar or actually(?) to the
brokers in a financial trade aspect.

There
are other wizards & big dogs(?) behind that curtain. Otherwise, the
powers-that-were would have shut down already. So that’s the part...&
that’s why I say enforcement...I’d rather just say here’s how the enforcement
went when it’s all done. Because there’s so many aspects that people don’t have
the data for & the data is mind-blowing, to the point where you’re
expending all your energy to explain things to everyone & hold their hand.
It’s better just to go in & do it.

Santos:
Exactly. Anyone, questions please...jump in, jump in.

Lisa:
Well, we all just like to sit back & listen to Heather talk.

D:
And we have such a clear line at the moment, I’m just amazed.

Santos:
Yeah, the line’s clear, it’s beautiful.

Bob:
Heather, one of the things I just wanted to express to you is the gratitude. I
hope that you’re receiving all of that energy, because I know that you’ve
been...I don’t know when you sleep (laughter), or if you sleep. (laughter) I
just wanted to express the gratitude that you & the other trustees, Caleb
& Randall, have done. We are very, very appreciative of it.

Lisa:
Actually, Heather, I ‘d like it if you could address the gold exercise that was
put out as well, because a lot of people on this show may have not come across
it & may not understand the importance & impact of it. Is there
anything that you can address there in regards to that gold exercise?

Heather:
Sure. Well first I’d like to say thank you for the gratitude...most lovingly
& I return it in kind for all the BE’ing & DO’ing that everyone is out
there doing. It has an effect & an impact that you’re not able to put into
absolute context just yet, but you will.

The
gold exercise basically, if you look around this planet, you may notice that
things are alive. We don’t really see them. It’s just sort of like driving to
work every day. You’re not paying attention...you just sort of get from your
house to your job & you don’t really remember the way.

Well,
we sort of have come into life that way & it’s not much of a life. So, if
you just stop for a minute & look what’s around you & recognize that
there’s energy. Everything is energy. If you aren’t able to recognize energy in
something else, is it not foreclosing(?) or affecting energy that you are?
These are questions that we discuss all the time, in the Public Trust, is a
recognition...an acknowledgement...because by acknowledging others, you are
acknowledging yourself. And you’re showing people how you want to be treated.

So,
when we go through this gold exercise...(inaudible)...less than any other
energy. A lot of people don’t know about St. Germaine’s Trust & the
particular gold that purportedly is inside. It’s a living gold...a biological
gold. It operates at a certain frequency. This is data that isn’t out there,
except for Pentagon & things like that. So, instead of just bringing the data
out & talking about it, I wanted to go through an exercise where people
could just start on their own.

You
know, energy of water...a great commenter on D’s blog...when we did the gold
exercise, commented, hey I too (inaudible) got the water every morning. I look
down at the water & I say, hey gorgeous. They give the energy to the water.
They recognize & acknowledge the water. There’s an energy there. So, it’s
just a matter of becoming aware...being conscious. Start looking around you
& seeing the animals, the plants, the energy field around everything.
That’s all that exists, is energy. And there’s different frequencies &
vibrations of it.

So,
we keep hearing St. Germaine’s Trust won’t be doing this or that until the
collective consciousness or zero point. Well, it’s a matter of frequency &
vibration. Basically, what’s happening right now behind the scenes is...if I
have information that tells you, okay this is how you do it, here’s the manual.
Raise your vibration & your frequency to that of the living gold that’s in
trust, in “St. Germaine trust”. If you raise your vibration, then the gold is
actually released automatically.

But
that’s not data that they’re giving out. In fact, purportedly St. Germaine
works very closely with the Pentagon & the Pentagon (very garbled). So it
kind of makes one wonder, based on data, if that data is correct or is it data
at all? (very garbled)...the dumbing down came from deceptives(?) in helping
people reach enlightenment or higher (inaudible). These are things that people
need to consider. That’s why I’m saying Absolute Data allows you to discern
from within what resonates. Your guidance tools of resonance are operating at a
much more sensitive frequency right now. So, contrasts are really obvious.

I
don’t spend the energy to answer emails or public statements by Drake or Casper
or any of these other guys. Because right now, my energy needs to be pegged to
DO’ing. So does Caleb’s & Randall’s...everyone else’s. I don’t want to
talk...I’d rather just do. I do enjoy conversations of having to DO, how do we
create, how do we co-create? That’s exciting. Talking about the old stuff,
that’s not exciting.

So,
I hope that sort of explains the gold exercise. It was just to bring in
awareness, but then from within. It’s not telling you, here’s this, here’s
that. I really enjoyed watching people do the gold exercise. And in the
comments, it’s just like, yeah, I’ve got it. And you know what, it’s living,
it’s dancing, it’s breathing. And if you look at gold in such a way that it’s
energy & no less than you, all of a sudden you kind of start to question
perhaps...well when I say my gold, our gold...am I not inflating an energy just
like I’ve been inflated & I’m energy.

So,
these are things to consciously think about. It’s all about energy, that’s the
prime & that’s where we’re working towards right now. Did I satisfactorily
answer your question?

Lisa: You did for me.

Bob
(or Brian?): Yes...definitely.

Santos:
Absolutely, wonderful.

Chris:
Definitely. I do have one question, Santos, for Heather. It’s Chris here,
Heather, how are you?

Heather:
Hi, Chris.

Chris:
Hi...I just self-muted, sorry about that. Would it be true to say that we’ll
all know enforcement has taken place when we observe Absolute Data around us?

Heather:
Actually, you’re already seeing enforcement, you’re just not able to put it
into absolute context. So, you’re seeing signs of enforcement now, but you’re
just not recognizing them as enforcement.

Chris:
Yes, there’s all sorts of little bits & pieces going on around us that I
can see might be part of it. But like everybody who is observing things going
on around here at the moment, very difficult to tell what’s real & what’s
not. But I don’t think we’ll miss it when it really kicks in.

Heather:
Yeah, just be open to the data. Call the data into you & data will come
out. Once you have all the data on the table, that’s why we say, take your
time, there’s no rush here...except we’re moving as fast as we can here. Just
be aware, look at the data...consider it...discuss it. The more aware you guys
are, the more BE’ing that you BE & the more DO’ing that you DO, the more
visible all this data comes.

The
people (garbled) from inside feel more comfortable bringing it out because you
guys are paying attention. And actually you’re DO’ing, which means there’s more
of a safe harbor for them to bring out that information. There will be
dis-information, yes, that’s the beauty about contrast. That you guys are
so...when I say you guys, I mean all of us...we’re much more aware now than we
were six months ago, five years ago, my gosh a hundred years ago.

So,
trust in you. Trust in the tools that are within you. They were deposited in
there by Source. As far as I can see, Source doesn’t make mistakes. They’re
inherent.

Santos:
Beautiful. Exactly. Never a mistake. We do have another couple of callers. I’ll
go to a caller just quickly. 561, caller, are you there?

Caller:
Yes, yes, this is Holly, from Florida. I have a question from a legal
perspective, wanting to know Heather’s thoughts. My understanding is filing a
UCC 1, with any Secretary of State within the United States of America, is
somehow ineffective.

I
can’t speak intelligently as to why, but there’s a smart group of people called
Freedom Club USA. who’ve determined that filing the UCC 1 through the Secretary
of State creates an illegitimate, ineffective UCC 1. Somewhere amongst your
materials or in direct materials I read filing within the state of Washington,
with the Secretary of State, till (inaudible) integrity is recognized all
about. Does any of that make sense?

Heather:
Yeah, let’s see here. David Wynn Miller...(inaudible). First off, you got to
know what the UCC is, okay? The UCC is a registry, & it’s not just
planetary, with different branches all the way down to your state level. It’s
universal. It’s a transferring system. The UCC is an international portal.
Washington D.C. for instance is an international portal for United States Corp.
When you file in a state registry, it actually goes right up the line, because
it’s just a branch of the international portal. And the international port is
just branches of the universal.

So,
when someone tells you that the UCC’s don’t mean anything, I believe they’re
relying on data which is changed. That data was the Queen, the purported Queen
of England, supposedly has a copyright on the UCC’s. The only problem was, it
was the people that paid for it. So, the UCC is actually registered as
(inaudible) high(?) property... (silence)

Holly
(caller): We are challenged by communication tonight. Yeah, Heather, we’re
challenged with the technology tonight, because I’m not hearing you as clearly
as I’d like. But I understand you, that is inaccurate information hence
forward. That filing the SOS is...

Heather:
Yeah, it’s an inaccurate (inaudible) data. It used to be correct in the one
sense...you had to be a Bar member to be able to use it, utilize it...except
for it got taken back to prime. And it is now in private ownership of all the
One People equally, which are all the ones that paid for the while system to
begin with. So, UCC’s are absolutely applicable. It’s how their whole system,
the slavery systems & the shadow governments...all work. So, anyone telling
you that it’s not like that...I would just go out & search for the data.
Question it. Why doesn’t it apply? They may tell you that it doesn’t apply, but
they won’t tell you why. So ask them a further question. Take the questions
back to prime. Why doesn’t this apply?

Holly
(caller): Understood...understood. Thank you so much.

Heather:
Not a problem.

Santos:
Lovely. Thank you caller. We do have another one, 316, caller with the number
316, are you there?

Caller:
I am here, thank you. Heather, infinite gratitude, thank you so much. My
question is, is one of ethics at this point. With this new information that I
have, we are in the process of acquiring new property, ironically. I see
indications in the system of some underlying tremblings going on, just because
we’re involved in the process. I do see strong indications, so I know that
there’s something going on. And thank you, thank you for that.

However,
at this point, with this new information, I’m having a crisis of
integrity. I don’t see how we can go
forward in the past system & yet I’m not really clear on how to move
forward with the new system. I’m certainly willing to take a pause if that’s
what we need to do right now. I’m looking for your input.

Heather:
I had someone with a similar question. They wanted to buy a piece of land, not
a home... You know, my cousin was married to Peter Scheff(?). I don’t know if
you know who that is...EuroPac, Euro-Pacific Capital. He’s always on CNN,
whatever...he always claims to be the 1%. For years, he wouldn’t allow her to
buy a house. They could only rent.

I
never understood it, until I was going through the investigations &
everything else & all the mortgages are fraud. There are no loans, not
unless you can rub coins together & say how you sweated for them & then
hand them over to someone else for a promise to pay back. And so, I’m sitting
here now...we used the house as a test case & right now, we’re just
renting, because I know that when this is all said & done, we can always
all go out there...the relationship with Earth is going to be much different.
You realize you’re going to be a co-custodian or co-trustee. You will be
co-responsible for how this Earth is treated.

So,
at that point, it’s a matter of, okay, I’m going to build a house, I’m going to
buy a house. So, for me personally & this is just my personal choice, we’re
just renting while we finish up what’s been going on & then at that point,
we’ll make our decision on how to proceed forward. I know we’ll be setting how
that kind of adventure is done. It’s going to be more responsible & it’s
going to be more accurate.

We
have to take all the land titles back to prime, because they were all sitting
there with the Vatican & that was all over the world.

Caller:
Do you have any vision or insight in how this...

Heather:
So, does that answer your question?

Caller:
It does. It does & even aside from the fact that we wanted to purchase a
ranch & farm & bring it back to a self-sustaining system, that’s beside
the point. It’s just a matter of how to proceed & I think I’m going to take
the advice that you gave a little bit earlier & pause & listen &
rest assured that we will be guided as long as purity is our intent. It’s going
to be all good. I’m grateful to be on this journey with all of you. I’m so
grateful this day has come.

Heather:
Thank you so much for your energy. I can feel it. Look within, you have all the
answers within you.

Lisa: I do have one that’s sort of a follow-up
from that question, really. Which is, there are currently properties, whether
they’re homes or commercial properties or whatever they are, sitting vacant
& have been foreclosed on by the now-foreclosed banks. Is there anything we
can do to restore those, right here, right now & prevent more damage?

Heather:
You know, we filed all the UCC’s securing all the property, all the
land...(garbled)...I think that was the first part of August, end of July. A
week after we did that, all of a sudden we were getting reports that the banks
were stopping foreclosures & the brokers, the high-network brokers, were
really upset because they couldn’t figure out what was going on.

What
I can say is this, this is Earth, we are all co-responsible for this Earth. If you
see something that needs to be taken care of, you have that responsibility.
I’ll send out the UCC that specifically goes to the land & air & seas.

If
you put yourself, register yourself as a co-custodian, under your full personal
responsibility & liability (garbled), then you are...now I wouldn’t suggest
going in & being rude, going in means I’m kind...in order for them to
understand the contrast. If they’re putting out hate, aggression, fear, then
the opposite will be shown, so they can make a choice. They can see the
difference.

As
far as the land & properties go, we’re in the process of taking those
physically back, repossessing all those & making sure that they’re out
there. Basically, everyone on the planet will have an ownership in all the properties
on the planet & will have an equal ownership. (garbled)...then people can
actually do, you know. That was the solution that we came up with, in order to
make sure that everyone had a free will choice & had the opportunity to
exercise it.

Bob:
Heather, can you repeat that last part? You kind of broke up & I was really
interested in hearing what you said.

Heather:
That all the properties are going into a digital exchange?

Lisa:
Yes, that bit, we didn’t hear that.

Heather:
Yeah, all the properties are going to go into a digital exchange. Every person
on the planet will own an equal share of each property, that they can digitally
exchange, you know swap out shares for other property. So, it will be a free
market, where everyone has opportunity to exercise their free will choice &
choose what property they actually want to live in.

Or
maybe not, maybe they just want to travel here & there...a lot of people
haven’t been able to travel, most of their lives. So, maybe people really don’t
want to have a one residence type of situation, who knows? The point is making
sure all that property is responsibly taken care of....nobody’s damaging the
Earth. A lot of the tools...that will come out.

Lisa:
Just to briefly go back over what was said earlier...about when you said, go in
there, be polite & be kind. Are you talking about going into the banking
question? Or are you talking about a court situation? Or are you talking about
UCC, when you say going in & being polite & kind...with paperwork?

Heather:
Well, not even just going in. Just anything that presents itself to you in that
present moment. Just be kind. Be graceful. Be in love.

(several
talking at once)

Lisa:
In all your dealings.

Santos:
Yeah, in all your dealings. Absolutely. And just to leave that, to be that
& to be responsible. And that will filter through in all of our dealings,
no matter where they are. And look, we do have one more caller. I want to take
one more caller & then that’ll be it, because we’re down to 20 minutes
& I just want everybody to just round out their thoughts please. So, can we
go to caller 901 please, area code 901 caller, are you there?

Caller:
Hi there. My name’s Bill, from Tennessee. How are you?

Santos:
Very well, thanks.

Bill
(caller): I am interested in a follow-up with that ethics question. In other
words, I think one of the things that the young lady was getting at, was how do
you go into a situation in the old system, knowing that you may be out of that
contract almost as soon as you get into it. It almost seems like we’re doing
something wrong if we’re going into it knowing that we’re not going to end up
having to pay, even though no loan may have never been created, you know? It’s
just this mind thing perhaps...in this transition. Does that make sense?

Heather:
Yeah, it does. Everyone has to make their own choice. You have data, look at
the data & see what resonates with you.

Bill
(caller): Yeah, thank you. I agree with that. And secondly, what would you do
for the moment in a non-judicial state, where foreclosures...they don’t seem to
be occurring as rapidly, but I think they’re still occurring.

Heather:
As far as non-judicial...the UCC process...(garbled)...what the law is...what
your standing is...then going in & doing the three 501. The judges, they’ll
all tell you, oh it’s not a UCC, doesn’t apply & all this...they’re told to
do that. They’re told to say that. You know the whole process that they do with
the Notice of Sale, Notice of Default, Notice of Sale...all of that’s right on
the UCC...you just don’t see it.

Bill
(caller): I see. Well, I’m in a diminished position to be a counselor, but I’m
kind of certified by the old powers-that-be to try to tell homeowners to hang
in there, buy themselves time, without disclosing much more information than
that. Honestly, in my professional capacity, if it were a personal capacity,
I’d say perhaps try this. But I can’t make that decision for them & I can’t
breach that subject really, because it’s almost too much for some people at
this point.

Heather:
Yeah, it’s Bill, right? Okay, Bill, everyone...I’ve been in a situation like
you where you have a job & you basically are told to achieve certain goals.
Some people are going to find, in this whole new Absolute Data process, that
their particular positions or careers or jobs aren’t resonating within them.
Maybe they’ll find that, hey I really like it.

All
I can tell you is just look at the data...you’re looking for data &
analyzing the data & there’s nothing wrong with that. You don’t have to go &
make life-altering decisions, until you feel & then you make your choices.
But nobody has to feel guilt during this period of time. We’re all learning.
We’re all remembering. We’re all gathering together.

Santos:
Yeah, thank you, Bill. We would all like to add to that. We do all agree &
appreciate very much, Heather, because most of the listeners, most of the panel
know what it’s like dealing with paperwork. It seems like an endless amount of
paperwork has to be done to be a citizen of this corporation. It’s just not
even worth it for them. We are enslaved by papers...dead bits of paper that we give
life to. So, we do all very much appreciate this work. It must have taken hours
& hours & hours of devotion & perseverance & concentration
& the amount of time dedicated. We will be the beneficiaries of that &
all of our brothers on the planet.

So
panel, fire away, we have about 20 solid minutes, so any final thoughts &
also what other resources do we have. We did have Hope who is hopefully gonna
come back on. Someone mentioned that resource. What else do we have, etc? So,
if you’d like to, just shoot away.

D:
You know what I think our greatest resource is? It’s us. It’s everyone. It’s
every person on this planet. Yes, there is a vast majority right now on this
planet blithely sleeping on, not knowing what’s going on at this moment. I’ve
talked about this on RTS several times, that those of us who are aware have, in
my opinion, a responsibility & that is to be the wayshowers & look out
for these people & help these people.

As
things start coming out & as understanding starts happening, that they
aren’t quite so shocked. You can help them with all these little things.
Whether it’s in your family or friends. Whether it’s in your community. Whether
it’s just online. There’s gonna be a big job for all of us...just being who we
are & who we’re supposed to be. Remember it, as Heather likes to say.

Santos:
Beautiful...true too.

Brian:
I’ll dovetail on that real quick, guys, this is Brian. Real quick, though, the
question was where else can people go to get some more information & more
resources. KP, Kauilapele, put out a post today that might be helpful. It was
either today, or it was yesterday. His blog is: kauilapele.wordpress.com. the
post is called, A Few OPPT Notes, Contact Groups, Discussion Groups--it’s an
updated document. There’s a lot of resources there for people to connect with
each other & to gather information & stories & share with others
who are in need of assistance.

I
actually skyped with Hope a couple of minutes ago. She was on her way out the
door & apologized for not being able to be here to go to a dinner
reservation. She said she’d make herself available for the next call & will
most likely be available for Lisa’s call on Tuesday.

My
kind of closing thought is great call. I agree with everything that D just
said. The energy that we’re creating...this is...every day, it’s an adventure
with all this. (laughter) It really is. I wake up & I check my skype every
morning. I wake up at 5 am & there’s like a 150 & some odd posts in our
little skype room that I have to catch up on through the middle of the night.
So, I will confirm & verify Heather does not sleep. She might get
rest...there’s a difference between getting rest & sleeping.

This
is a journey. I’d never thought the rabbit hole went so deep. Every day, I fall
a thousand feet deeper, into awareness & into the truth of what’s really
going on. For me, there really isn’t a whole heck of a lot of fear in it
anymore. It’s exciting. It’s like being on a roller coaster ride, you know when
you’re going up the roller coaster & it’s kind of getting up to the point
where you’re at the peak & you’re at the summit & you’re about to take
that turn & then gravity just kind of yanks that thing down & you’re
going through all sorts of loop-de-loops...I think that’s where we are right
now.

I
think that once the roller coaster gets over that tipping point, it’s just
going to be a free fall. That brings fear for some, excitement & anxiety
for others. It really depends on the type of person you are. No matter which
way you slice it, it’s an adventure that we all signed up for. I’m so glad
& grateful to be here & to have such amazing people to share it with.

It’s
only going to get more fun from here...that’s all I have to say.

Santos:
Brian, can you share with folks what you do & your website please?

Brian:
(laughter) Oh, what do I do? Oh gosh, I’m a computer & internet junkie
these days. I’m glued to D’s blog & AK’s blog. I’m attached to American
Kabuki’s blog, americankabuki,blogspot.com. Really I’m just a reader of all
this stuff. I was kind of introduced to the scene with a consultation I did
with Poof a couple months back, that got put onto American Kabuki’s blog &
went viral. I think I got like 8 or 9000 hits in like 4-5 hours. I was able to
get close with American Kabuki.

Where
it really all started for me, was when Heather sent Kauilapele & American
Kabuki am email talking about the significance of that consultation I did that
went out & was on exposing the guy, General Wong, out of Hong Kong &
his agenda that he had as far as the power & the money goes. I don’t really
know the whole story...it’s what Heather shared with us. I’ve been kind of in
it ever since then.

As
far as my background, I’m just a guy with...I’m an adrenaline junkie, as it
pertains to watching the adventure unfold every day. That’s kind of a little
bit about me. I’d be more than happy to share more about me in another call,
but I know we’re limited for time here on this one, so I greatly appreciate the
opportunity for bringing me o here & what everybody is doing. Santos &
everybody else on the call, it’s been an honor to speak with you. I’d be more
than happy to come on again anytime in the future.

Santos:
Beautiful. Thanks, Brian. Anyone else from the panel? Otherwise, we’ll just
leave it over to Heather for the last five or six minutes.

Lisa:
I was going to say something, but I’d rather hear from Heather. I’ll leave it
with that.

Santos:
Alright.

Heather:
I’m actually liking all the accents, so I’d rather listen (garbled).

Santos:
Yeah, I’m in the rather listen to other people mood today too.

Lisa:
If I’m going to say anything, it would just be honestly to reiterate a little
what Brian just said. My mornings now consist of getting a real strong coffee,
because I know I’m gonna need it.
Sitting down & catching up on the skype group chat that Heather’s in
& Lois & AK & Brian & myself & Hopegirl & trying to
pick my brains up off the floor. It’s an exciting way to start the day, I have
to say. I’ve considered myself a sort of veteran around certain parts of this
rabbit hole ...20-25 years for a lot of it. I feel so reinvigorated &
enthusiastic & open.

Because
I’ve always had that mindset, that I don’t know what I don’t know. But what I
don’t know has just exploded. It’s exciting again. Every day, it’s just exciting,
not about the rabbit hole & the way the world really works, but about me
& about who I am & what I am & the power that I have within me.
That’s what’s been the reinvigorating aspect of it. Without the boundaries,
without the external governance.

You
know, how rethinking, revisiting, reassessing...how I self-govern. What that
means to me & where my integrity is. Just having to re-ask myself,
re-evaluate all of those things. That’s the process I’m kind of going through
now, more than anything. It’s a very personal one & yet I know that it’s
expressing itself...the way I’m expressing myself is changing & the impact
that I’m having in my environment is changing. So, it’s a whole new journey yet
again. It’s brilliant. I’m having fun.

Heather:
That’s the point. I think you’re right. It is about you & it’s about
everyone. I love the idea when D & you guys made it up, The Public Trust
skype room, or whatever it is. I just have so much fun. Believe me, there were
a lot of periods I didn’t have fun. So, to sit & talk with you guys, I’m
learning as much from all of you as maybe from me.

The
point is, is interacting. If you can interact with each other, that’s DO’ing.
And that’s something we haven’t done in a long, long time. So, I thank you guys
& all the energy that you give me, I give back in kind.

Bob:
Did we lose everyone?

D:
Heather is kind of there...sort of there.

Lisa:
And I’m here...kinda.

Bob:
I am just...I’m so grateful to even be in contact with other like minds. For so
long, it’s been a lonely journey. To be able to, every morning, just like Lisa
said, I wake up in the morning & I’m just like, what’s changed? How has the
world changed since I’ve been asleep? There’s always something new. There’s
always more information.

Many
of us are experiencing profound changes, in our beingness...in the way we look
at ourselves. It’s a choice. It’s a simple choice. If you understood how simple
it was, you could choose to be anything you wish...right now. It almost
instantly, you see the effect of it. And this is...I’m just amazed at being a
participant in it. We’re all participants, whether we’re aware of it or not.
But, I’m so grateful I’m an aware participant...to some degree, as to what it
is that we’re actually creating here.

The
potential of what can BE, is ahhh...& I’m just excited & I’m glad to be
a part of it. This is my life. This what I do...you know, sharing information.
I was a teacher for 20 some odd years. So, I enjoy learning & teaching
& this is all possible now.

It’s
happening & I’m experiencing my joy every morning when I wake up & it’s
sometimes disheartening when you have to come back down to 3D. But, sometimes
you do. That’s the thing, walking in two different worlds, because there’s two
completely different realities. Lisa will tell you...anyone on the panel will
tell you...when you have to go & do the mundane 3D things, you’re like in a
completely...you’re like, oh my goodness...

Lisa:
It serves a purpose by providing the contrast, though. (laughter)

If
you cast your minds back to the day before you saw the first public, published
publications from The People’s Trust & how you felt about the future, were
you not steeling yourself for something which is not here.

In
the conversation with Heather, there’s something completely different. We’ve
gone to a completely different place in less than a month. And like everybody
else, I’m so excited & grateful & pleased & my breath is taken, as
to just the magnitude of what we’re looking at, instead of all the other things
that have been thrown at us for the last few years. I just wonder where we’ll
be in a month’s time & I’m looking forward to that incredibly. So, thank
you Heather & all the others.

Lisa:
At that time, where we were at was this global collective sigh of
disappointment that the world didn’t change on the 21st of December. That’s
kind of what I felt like. And yet, four-five days later, well actually it has
changed.

Chris:
Yeah, I mean all the filings were complete. the information was simply made
public on the 25th. But it was a done deal even by then. We just didn’t know
it. It’s brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.

Santos:
Yeah, well to think for many hundreds & hundreds of years these robber
barons have gotten away with their rules & maritime so-called laws & be
able to harvest the energy of mankind & we didn’t know a way out. They had
the most superior claim on the planet, I mean, they’ve got papal bulls...for
goodness sakes, you know. (laughter)

Those
are heavy documents. They’re written in blood, you know, kid’s blood, on
parchment, which you don’t know what sort of an animal will...whatever creature
they killed to get that document. In that, they put all their spells on
those...you know, put all those so-called holy spells on those bulls & then
they put them away on their...they archived them in the Vatican. No one has
been able to trump that & now we have. So, we’ve put to death a big beast,
Goliath, so to speak.

We
won’t know ourselves in the next few weeks. You know, the changes that are
coming upon this Earth exponentially. Brace yourself folks. Brace yourselves,
because what is coming is the remembering of who we are & that we are
remembering that we belong to the unity, not the uniformity of the world. You
know, they always co-opt true & beautiful things. And rather than give you
unity, they give you uniformity...you know, don this uniform on & follow
some orders & we will have the new world order. Good little foot soldiers.

Well,
that’s all over. We are all now in our sovereignty, for want of a better word,
in our dominion. And hallelujah, the time has come. Let’s all act on that &
be responsible & go forward from this point forward. Heather, what do you
say to that with the closing three minutes?

Heather:
I think that I’m speechless. Your guy’s DO’ingness is amazing. I mean, I’m just
so grateful to be a part of all your guy’s energy & we’re BE’ing together.
It’s an amazing experience. It makes everything, from this moment of non-fun,
to be just totally worth it. So, thank you for having fun with me & letting
me have fun with you.

Santos:
I’ll close it out then friends. Thank you very, very much everyone for
participating. Please continue with perseverance. We will see the beautiful
things that are in our hearts unfold on the Earth. There will be that beautiful
paradise that we have always longed for & known could exist. The potential
is there. We know it. The time has arrived. Now we have got most of the tools,
if not most of the tools. We have all of the tools to go forward, in honor, to
live in honor.

If
it means only that we have awakened on a personal level, well how beautiful is
that. When you awaken to your divinity, it doesn’t matter that the
powers-that-were or that think that I can do to you, because then one knows
that you arrive at the knowing that you are all that ever was, all that is
& all that ever will be, they can destroy your body, but they can never,
ever destroy the soul.

So
folks, thank you for listening to Freedom Reigns & Syncretism. This is my
last show on blogtalk too, by the way. I’m very, very busy with other
commitments now, as I shared with you last week. So, thanks once again friends
for the panel & take care one & all. Now, we’ve run out of time.
Everyone please take care. Lots of love & bye-bye...for now.