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17538Re: Arley Price dies house fire Utica 16 Mar 1949http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1527.1.1/mb.ashx
Arley Price, age 37 - born about 1912 - died Mar 16, 1949<br>parents are not listed on his death cert.<br>---<br>Dorothy Caster, age 30 - born about 1918 - died Mar 16, 1949<br>parents listed as Leon Raven and Mabel (Anderson) Raven<br>--<br>Leroy Caster, age 11 - born about 1937 - died Mar 16, 1949<br>parents listed as Charles Caster and Dorothy (Raven) Caster<br>---<br>Patricia Caster, age 9 - born about 1939 - died Mar 16, 1949<br>parents listed as Charles Caster and Dorothy (Raven) Caster<br>---2016-11-04 15:08:07ZSCIGSChttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1527.1.1/mb.ashxWreaths for Warren Union Cemetery Veteranshttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1610/mb.ashx
Wreaths will be placed at the veterans markers during a ceremony at 2:00pm on December 17, 2016.2016-11-02 14:30:16Zbbhetchhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1610/mb.ashxLooking for a school in Romeo/Bruce area in operation 1830s-1850shttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1609/mb.ashx
I thought I was looking for Penningtons School for ladies but that wasnt it, not the right dates. Martha S. Makepeace Giddings taught at a school for girls during that time frame and we were wondering where. Any ideas? 2016-10-04 17:09:13ZDianiewillShawhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1609/mb.ashxRe: Catholic Churcheshttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1608.1.1/mb.ashx
Thank you very much. I appreciate all the info.<br>Vicki2016-08-24 19:30:06Zvickih203172http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1608.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Catholic Churcheshttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1608.1/mb.ashx
I can't answer your question but, if you are looking for Births/Baptisms/Marriages records for the mentioned churches, many are listed in "The Genealogy of French Families of the Detroit River Region, By Christian Denissen" for surnames TREMBLAY / TREMBLÉ, FRÉTON / FORTON, RIVARD, LAFORGE, DELAUNAY etc.<br><br> See the below index to locate family names that were sourced from Denissen . Perhaps the information you are seeking is listed.<br><br><a href="http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&amp;db=martinmainville1&amp;recno=35591" target="_blank">http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&amp;...</a><br><br>or this listing which has no foreign language characters<br> <br><a href="http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&amp;db=martinmainville2&amp;recno=35210" target="_blank">http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&amp;...</a><br><br>If you visit again, park across Woodward in the DIA below ground parking structure or the Historical Museum parking lot an the same side of the street as the library.<br><br> 2016-08-24 17:59:41Zlamptesterhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1608.1/mb.ashxCatholic Churcheshttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1608/mb.ashx
Does anyone know what became of the records from the church St Francois of the Clinton River? Is this the church the early French families from Chesterfield twp would have used? I went to the Burton Historical Collection in Detroit which for me is no small trip ( 200 miles) only to be disappointed and be given a parking ticket because I am unfamiliar with those parking meters and where to park at. I am very disappointed. Also are there some missing marriage records from the Catholic Churches in the area from around 1870? I looked through several parishes St Peters Mt Clemens, Immaculate Conception in Anchorville, and Holy Cross in Marine City and I still can't find it. Any ideas? I could use some help here.2016-08-14 12:38:30Zvickih203172http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1608/mb.ashxRe: we have proof now finding the right one. http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx
in genealogy, determination is required! :)2016-06-17 13:41:36Zchickeewihttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: we have proof now finding the right one. http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx
Yes I am very aware of that. But I am still gonna find it. lol. <br>2016-06-17 13:24:22ZP_Campisehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: we have proof now finding the right one. http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx
I will try but Schultz is a very common German name, as well as Anna and Fred/Frederick, etc. <br><br>2016-06-17 13:20:40Zchickeewihttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: we have proof now finding the right one. http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx
Well I am with you, I didnt think Minnie would be the same as Anna, just checking to see what you thought. but I did find Fred and Anna Moss had three children in Detroit. Mi. <br>1. Martha Schultz B. Nov. 31, 1893<br>2. Joseph Schultz B. Nov. 10, 1901<br>3. Harold Schultz B. October 09, 1895. <br>So since Fred was born in Germany, I cant find the date right now cause I cant go to Germany site. but that means that they arrived between 1885/86 and 1893. Fred supposidly being born in 1885/86. If you remember this is what started the whole long ordeal. Fred and his birth and death date. Dang man's still a problem. lol. <br>So if you find those two dates please let me know. Thanks again. <br>2016-06-16 23:55:01ZP_Campisehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx
Let me ask you this. the only Fred Schultz I have found so far is one with Anna Moss, some say Anna Moas which I would think would be same name and then I kep finding Minnie well I dismissed it, but then I did find where Minnie Moss Married Fred Schultz so I guess thats the same person, what do you think. <br>2016-06-16 14:16:18ZP_Campisehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2.1.2/mb.ashx
More proof that these are two different Freds.<br><br>The Fred Schultz that married Sophie (twice), was born in Germany about 1885/1886, and his parents were Fred Schultz and Anna Moss. I have attached a copy of Fred/Sophie's second marriage record that shows Fred's parents. <br>Fred and Sophie had a son together, Herman F. Schultz. <br>I think this is the family line you are looking for, based on the other information you provided (Herman, Herman's son, etc).<br>I have not yet researched this Fred's parents or siblings, but I will do that.<br><br><br><br>The Fred Schultz that married Florence, was born in Michigan in 1890, his parents were Michael Schultz and Frances Bayer. This is proven based on marriage record of Fred and Florence. This Fred was only married once, and that was to Florence per the marriage records. Florence and Fred had one son together, named Donald.<br>This Fred was never married to Sophie, nor had any children with her. <br>This Fred had the following siblings, per the US 1910 census:<br>Sarah Schultz<br>Clarence Schultz<br>Joseph Schultz<br>James Schultz<br>Hilda Schultz<br>Walter Schultz<br>Howard Schultz<br><br><br><br>2016-06-16 14:14:32Zchickeewihttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2.1.2/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx
I found the 1910 US Census that lists Fred and Minnie, with a son named Albert, living in Michigan. This is not the same family. If you look at the other details on the census, for Minnie, it lists her as having 2 children, 1 living. That one child living is Albert, and we know the Fred in your family line was still alive.<br>2016-06-16 14:12:51Zchickeewihttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.2/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx
Since they married in Germany, the German spelling could be different.<br>For the first name, Anna and Minnie do not sound alike, but then I have seen nicknames that are not even close to the person's name, lol.<br><br>Need to find when Fred and Anna came over to the US - if they came through New York (not all did), and later than Sept 1892, then likely they came through Ellis Island. Prior to that, New York arrivals came through Castle Garden.<br>2016-06-16 13:57:26Zchickeewihttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx
It is not about being right or wrong. I completely understand because records can be confusing!<br><br>2016-06-16 01:30:20Zchickeewihttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx
OMG you found it. The marriage license proves it. I have been and have a whole list of information back to 1700 on the other Fred. Thank You so much. This has ate my lunch so to speak. I have all the information on Sophie's family, but thank you for this. You were right and I was wrong. Oh so excited to find more now. but I cant go to Germany right now so hopefully another site will carry me through or I will have to pay again for Germany. lol. <br>2016-06-15 21:41:47ZP_Campisehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2.1.2.1/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3/mb.ashx
I think I have your mystery solved, and it does look like you have mixed up some families and information (dates, etc).<br><br>Let me start with, the Fred Schultz who married Sophie Schmallenberg was born in 1885, in Germany. Sophie was previously married to Rudolph Schmallenberg, but I cannot find her maiden name yet. Her divorce record from Rudoplh listed 6 children, and I can post that if you want me to.<br><br>Here are the US Census records for Fred/Sophie.<br>Home in 1930: Roseville, Macomb, Michigan <br>Glendale Ave <br>Name Age <br>Fred Schultz 45 head (b. 1885 Germany)<br>Sophie Schultz 33 wife<br>Herman F Schultz 1 son<br>Rudolph G Schmallenberg 17 stepson<br>Laura L Schmallenberg 11 Stepdaughter<br>Sigmond Schmallenberg 7 stepson<br>John J Schmallenberg 5 stepson<br> <br> <br>Home in 1940: Roseville, Macomb, Michigan <br>Glendale Ave <br>Name Age <br>Fred Schultz 55 b. 1885 Germany<br>Sophia Schultz 45 <br>Herman Schultz 11 son<br>Laura Schmalenberg 22 stepdaughter<br> <br><br>So - if the above is your Herman, then the Fred you are looking for was born 1885, in Germany.<br>*******************************************************************************<br>Now, on to the other Fred Schultz, born 11 Dec 1890.<br>Here he is the 1900 and 1910 Census, with this parents and siblings:<br>Home in 1900: Gratiot, Wayne, Michigan<br>Street: (not listed)<br>Name Age<br>Michal Shultz 38<br>Frances Shultz 37<br>Sarah Shultz 14<br>Clarence Shultz 12<br>Joseph Shultz 11<br>Fredie Shultz 9<br>James Shultz 6<br>Hilda Shultz 4<br>Walter Shultz 1<br><br><br>Home in 1910: Erin, Macomb, Michigan<br>Street: Gratiot Road<br>Name Age<br>Michael Schultz 48<br>Francis Schultz 47<br>Sahrah Schultz 24<br>Clarnce Schultz 22<br>Joseph Schultz 21<br>Fredrich Schultz 19<br>James Schultz 16<br>Hilda Schultz 14<br>Walter Schultz 11<br>Howard Schultz 6<br><br>Fred marries Florence Mogle (nee Grifor).<br>The marriage record states that this is Fred's first marriage, and Florence was married before.<br><br>I posted the other Fred's 1940 Census with Sophie.<br>Here is this Fred's 1940 Census with Florence:<br>Home in 1940: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan <br>Street: Traverse <br>Name Age<br>Fred Schultz 49<br>Florence Schulty 45<br>Edgar Schultz (Edgar Mogle) 16<br><br>*****************************************************************<br><br><br>2016-06-15 15:05:59Zchickeewihttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx
me too. :}2016-06-14 19:49:00Zchickeewihttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx
I wish I could give you all my info so you could see lol2016-06-14 19:36:09ZP_Campisehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx
I have a question.<br><br>Your statement ". The Fred with Sophie is correct for sure. The Fred who wed Florence has the family members of the Fred that married Sophie. "<br><br>How do you know the Fred who married Sophie has the same family members as the Fred who married Florence? I have not found any record of this, but have not gone backwards in the census records yet.<br>2016-06-14 18:50:55Zchickeewihttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.2/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx
yes, I think "your" Fred was quite the "character". lol<br><br>You are not argumentative, just trying to make your point. I can understand.<br><br>I still think these are two different Freds, but anything is possible!2016-06-14 18:07:52Zchickeewihttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx
I dont want to argue with you but I want you to see. I do know there are two different 1940 census. but, here is the but. The Fred with Sophie is correct for sure. The Fred who wed Florence has the family members of t he Fred that married Sophie. <br>The Fred who married Florence on his obit it states. brother of Clarence, James, Walter, and Howard Schultz, Mrs, Sarah Clarlke and Mrs. Hilda Kelly, those are the siblings of the Fred Schultz married to Sophie. also. WWI, Registration Card for Frederick Schultz, is listed at 9788 Traverse Ave. which is with Florence but birthdate is 12-11--1890 and also Ire Kelly is one that is the person that knows of his wear about. that is Fred who is married to Sophie its his sisters husband Ire Kelly. <br>oh and that was 1942. the we have a WWI Drafat Registration dated June , 1917 listing Fred H. Schultz Birth Dec. ll, 1891 single working on a farm with his dad Michael Schultz, <br>Marriage license for fred and florence says born 1891. B.p. Michigan. t o Michael and Frances. same parents as our other fred. and if you look at Michael and Frances in the census before you will find Fred, listed as Fred, Fredrick, Freddie, Birth as 1890 or 1891 born Michigan. but parents were from Germany. <br>Do you see what I am talking about. . Gosh I sound like I am being argumentative. <br>But looks like our Fred was a decetful little man. <br>I am trying to find more inforamtion. <br>Thanks. and yes I am sure the story wasnt funny then. but sure is now. I sent to my son and he said (strange family) poor thing, I didnt want to say yea your daddy side of family. lol. I just agreed with him. Sent to my daughter and she said WOW...lol 2016-06-14 00:44:12ZP_Campisehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1/mb.ashx
This story is funny, but probably was not at the time. lol<br><br>The Fred listed on the 1940 US Census, birth date 1885, is the Fred who wed Sophie, and who is the father of Herman. This is the Fred list with Sophie, Herman, and some of her children. This is not the Fred born in 1890.<br><br>The other Fred on the 1940 US Census, birth date 1890, is the Fred who wed Florence and that is the only marriage he had. This is the Fred you thought was wed to Sophie but he wasn't. He was only ever wed to Florence.<br><br>The birth dates of both Freds is not 11 Dec 1890, not sure where you found that?2016-06-13 23:52:07Zchickeewihttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1/mb.ashx
ok so sorry you put alot of work into it. but you are correct on all but that is what I have been saying, These are the same people that you are spliting up. Fred and Sophie I have all that information. and more. and the other I have also. This has been my issue. the birth dates of both freds are December 11, 1890 the 1885 Fred is a totally different Fred, none of his inforamtion is listed right here. But just to add a bit of humor for your work. someone sent me something today. It is a write up in the Detroit Free Press for Wed, Aug 24, 1967 oh never mind read it. I just figured out how to send to you. Thanks Pam2016-06-13 23:13:50ZP_Campisehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.1/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.2/mb.ashx
Just got home and seen on Fred Schultz Divorce Records I said it was Iowa , my bad. it is Ohio. it states Marriage Date 27 June 1927 Marriage Place: Toledo, Ohio, Decree Date 24 Aug 1940 that was for the divorce spouse name Sophie Schultz and the other divorce paper says the same thing Marriage date 7 Ma7 1941 Marriage Place Toledo, Ohio, Decree Dte 15 Sept. 1942 Decree Place for both Macomb and spouse Sophie Schultz . I need to double check that Ohio. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. <br>2016-06-13 13:36:00ZP_Campisehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.2/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx
And to respond to the I said Fred's mother was named Cathorine. No Freds parents were Michael and Frances, and his parents were Michael Fredrich Schultz and Cathorine. _____. <br>Very confusing with all the Fredrick and Michael and to confuse more down the line closer to us. my son was named Fredrick Herman Schultz and his dad was Herman Fredrick Schultz, and now its his dad we are trying to locate information on Fred or Fredrick Schultz. B. Dec 11, 1890 St. Clair, Michigan. 2016-06-13 13:33:59ZP_Campisehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx
Ah, now I got it! Ok, let me do some more checking. :)2016-06-12 14:53:45Zchickeewihttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx
No No. just seen this message , I have the marriage license of Fred and Florence that is what started this whole thing. That is correct Freds parents were Michael and Frances, which makes it even more strange. Because see what I am saying it fits my Fred Schultz like he was married to two women at the same time. 2016-06-12 14:32:26ZP_Campisehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx
I did get your email. Thanks!<br><br>I sent a reply, but I also found something else.<br><br>I found the marriage record of the Fred Schultz who married Florence Mogle, as listed in the obit you have.<br><br>Their marriage record lists this Fred's parents as Michael Schultz and Frances Bayer. <br><br>You stated the Fred you are looking for has a mother named Cathorine, therfore this cannot be the same person.2016-06-12 13:23:42Zchickeewihttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx
Sorry but I just sent you the information through your email that is in ancestry . I had opened this a bit ago and when I got home started looking for it and just did it thSt way sure hope you got it 2016-06-11 19:45:15ZP_Campisehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1/mb.ashx
Hi, yes I can but I do not know how to attach a phot. it states Fred Schlult M. 27 June 1927 in Toledo, Ohio, got marriage license and married Michigan. Divorced, 24 Aug 1940 in Macomb. State File # 501758 Docket # ll 321 # of children 1 Granted. I know this marriage took place because 1928 is when my x father in law was born in Michigan. they married again on May 7, 1941 , again mp. Toledo Ohio, Decreet date 15 - Sept 1942 Decree place Macomb, Michigan State File # 502229 Spouse name: Sophie Schultz Dockekt # 12736 #of children 1 Divorce Status - granted. <br>2016-06-11 12:58:37ZP_Campisehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx
You only posted his death year, 1967.<br>Can you post his actual death date, the date the obit appeared in the paper, which newspaper the obit was in, and where he died?<br><br>Would also help to know his parents'names, including his mother's maiden name, and the names of the 5 kids.<br><br>All this information helps to prove or disprove when looking at records.<br><br>There are so many people with the same names, born/died in the same area.<br><br>2016-06-11 12:56:33Zchickeewihttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1/mb.ashx
I did a search on Ancestry and could not find a marriage record between Fred Schultz and Sophie Schmalenberg.<br><br>Can you post your references, and the information from each record?<br><br>The only divorce record i could find is in Michigan, stating the marriage took place in 1941 in Ohio, a divorce granted in 1942 in Michigan.<br><br>This is likely not the same person.<br>2016-06-11 12:46:30Zchickeewihttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1/mb.ashxNeed proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607/mb.ashx
I have a Fred Schultz (Frederick) Born Dec. 11, 1891 St. Clair , Michigan. to Michael Schultz and Frances Breuer. I have a marriage of a Fred Schultz that matches my Fred, but that would put him being married at the same time to another woman. Need to find out. WWi Registration is Frederick Schultz 9788 Traverse Ave. Detroit. exact everything including the person who will always know where to find him. Ira Kelly, his sisters husband. But that exact address is where I have Fred Schultz married to Florence Mogle in 1934 but in 1927 he married Sophie Schmalenberg till 1940 divorced and remarried in 41 and then divorced again. I need help. I honestly looks like the same person. but in the obit from 1967 it list Florence as his wife and two children and 5 grandkids and his brothers and sisters which is my Freds sisters and brothers. Are you following this. lol. 2016-06-11 12:45:31ZP_Campisehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607/mb.ashxLooking for Utica helphttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1583/mb.ashx
My biological Mothers name was Dannelda May Stewart, Im trying to locate old neighbors who would have known her or lived by her. She resided at 43498 Bordeaux Utica Michigan . Looking for help to locate who would have been her neighbors or friends. she is dead and I was her daughter and put up for adoption. Searching for help locating who would have known who my birth father would have been. Would appreciate any messages to be sent to <a href="mailto://kburgess429@gmail.com">kburgess429@gmail.com</a> ty She would have lived there between 1966 and 1967.2016-06-11 05:27:05Z1_jagkris2000http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1583/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx
No I quite understand what you are saying and I know it happened more than people think but I am not the type that just takes stuff for granite . I have to prove it before I know. I have found some Fred Schultz which could be him but because of one reason or another I am not satisfied till I see proof .i really appreciate your help though I just wish I could actually find the death certificate not just the record 2016-06-10 23:51:48ZP_Campisehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Need proof this is two different peoplehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1/mb.ashx
Hmm ... well I can tell you what I have found out on a relative of mine.<br><br>My great great uncle married a woman who was never divorced from her first husband. He never knew that. Seems she wanted to marry in Michigan (he is from Wisconsin), so they did. After that, they settled in Ohio.<br>What I was told by a few people from the records offices, is that back then, no records were checked to see if someone never divorced.<br><br>That does not help you at all, but in case you were wondering. No, it was not legal back then either, but many people did it.<br><br>I still think that without all the actual documentation - all marriage records, etc, you cannot prove or disprove that this is the same person.<br>I understand your x father in law was born in Michigan, but that does not prove a marriage took place. <br><br>Sorry, I know this is not much help. Just try not to make assumptions about what you think, based on what you were told, or where/when someone was born.<br>Family legends are just that - I know that first hand!<br><br>2016-06-10 21:31:13Zchickeewihttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1607.1.1.1/mb.ashxBoomhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1606/mb.ashx
I am looking for family of William Wallace Boom and his Sister Arvilla Lillian Boom who married Melvin R. Kelly. I have family information to share. Thank You2016-03-31 13:40:50Ztreatsthttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1606/mb.ashxRe: Boomhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1606.2/mb.ashx
*United States Census, 1900<br>Name William Boom<br>Event Type Census<br>Event Year 1900<br>Event Place Bruce township Romeo village, Macomb, Michigan, United States<br>Gender Male<br>Age 29<br>Marital Status Married<br>Race White<br>Relationship to Head of Household Head<br>Years Married 5<br>Birth Date Jan 1871<br>Birthplace Pennsylvania<br>Marriage Year (Estimated) 1895<br>Father's Birthplace Ireland<br>Mother's Birthplace Ireland<br>Household<br>William Boom Head M 29 Pennsylvania<br>Bertha Boom Wife F 25 Germany<br><br>======================<br><br>*United States Census, 1910<br>Name William Boom<br>Event Type Census<br>Event Date 1910<br>Event Place Bruce, Macomb, Michigan, United States<br>Gender Male<br>Age 40<br>Marital Status Married<br>Race White<br>Race (Original) White<br>Relationship to Head of Household Head<br>Birth Year (Estimated) 1870<br>Birthplace Pennsylvania<br>Father's Birthplace Pennsylvania<br>Mother's Birthplace Pennsylvania<br>Household<br>William Boom Head M 40 Pennsylvania<br>Bertha Boom Wife F 31 Germany<br>Laura Boom Daughter F 9 Michigan<br>William Boom Son M 4 Michigan<br>Mildred Boom Daughter F 2 Michigan<br><br>=========<br><a href="http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&amp;GRid=11873781" target="_blank">http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&amp;GRid=11...</a><br><br>Father listed as Wallace<br><br><a href="http://seekingmichigan.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/ref/collection/p129401coll7/id/129466" target="_blank">http://seekingmichigan.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/ref/collection...</a><br><br>====================<br><br>1870 census. Father Wallace, sister Arvilla.<br><br>United States Census, 1870<br>Name William Boom<br>Event Type Census<br>Event Year 1870<br>Event Place Pennsylvania, United States<br>Gender Male<br>Age 3<br>Race White<br>Race (Original) W<br>Birth Year (Estimated) 1866-1867<br>Birthplace Pennsylvania<br>Page Number 9<br>Household<br>Wallace Boom M 38 Pennsylvania &lt;----------------------<br>Diantha Boom F 34 New York<br>Charles Boom M 13 Pennsylvania<br>Adeline Boom F 10 Pennsylvania<br>Arvilla Boom F 8 Pennsylvania &lt;--------------------------------<br>Julius Boom M 7 Pennsylvania<br>William Boom M 3 Pennsylvania &lt;---------------------<br>Phebe Boom F 72 New York<br><br><a href="https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ2F-ZK1" target="_blank">https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ2F-ZK1</a><br><br>===========2016-03-30 17:18:11Zrcj137http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1606.2/mb.ashxRe: Boomhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1606.1/mb.ashx
NOTE -<br>There is a 20 yr. gap in the census records [1880 - 1900] as the 1890 census was burned in the 1920's. Add 20 yrs to everyone's 1880 age for the 1900 census.<br><br>I’m not related to any member of this family. <br><br><br>1940 is the last available census at this time. <br><br><br>You have not stated their - DOB's and birthplaces.2016-03-30 11:48:47Zthomasker2http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1606.1/mb.ashxPearl Greck Obituaryhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1605/mb.ashx
Which library would I contact for the obituary of Pearl Greck , death date April 16, 1993 in Colfax, Huron, MI. However her residence was St. Clair Shores, Macomb, MI.<br>Her name did not appear in the obit. index at Mt. Clemens Library.<br>Thank You for any help.<br>Marilyn2016-01-31 15:01:13ZMarilynDickshttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1605/mb.ashxRe: Norma Emmonshttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1604.1.1/mb.ashx
I sure wish I knew I was told she never married she had four children two children were born 1943 and 1944 they had names of King.Then she had two more 1945 1946 those two were Somerset. I know she was born in Canada she died in Detroit around late 1950's early sixty from Cancer in a hospital in Detroit .She was born 1923.2016-01-05 14:56:24Zgmawcrowtherhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1604.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Norma Emmonshttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1604.1/mb.ashx
I’m not related to any member of this family. <br><br>1940 is the last available census at this time. <br><br><br>WHAT was her last name @ the time of death??2016-01-05 13:24:46Zthomasker2http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1604.1/mb.ashxNorma Emmonshttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1604/mb.ashx
Can anyone please help me I am looking for Norma Emmons she was born in Canada abt.1923 to Irene Rose Taylor and Gordon Charles Emmons.I can find her in one of eleven Children in Detroit Michigan in the 1930-40 census and that's all .I know she died at a hospital in Detroit Michigan in the early 1960abt. Please help.2016-01-04 14:28:02Zgmawcrowtherhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1604/mb.ashxRe: HAVRILLA or Harilla, Imogenehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1603.1.1/mb.ashx
birth name was Imogene Patterson (Pattinson?) born 1928 in Oregon. Was married to a Jack Havrilla. We really don't have more info than this.2015-12-08 14:53:23ZKirbvighttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1603.1.1/mb.ashxRe: HAVRILLA or Harilla, Imogenehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1603.3/mb.ashx
It appears she died in 1989.<br><br>*Michigan Death Index<br>Name Imogene M Havrilla<br>Event Type Death<br>Event Date 09 Apr 1989<br>Event Place Royal Oak, Oakland, Michigan<br>Residence Place Clinton, Macomb, Michigan<br>Gender Female<br>Birth Date 21 Nov 1924<br>Certificate Number 23364<br><br>****<br>*United States Public Records<br>Name Imogene Havrilla<br>Residence Date 01 Oct 1987<br>Residence Place Mount Clemens, Michigan, United States<br>Address 43547 Sandpiper<br>Address Continued Mount Clemens, Michigan 48043<br>Address Date 01 Oct 1987<br>2nd Address 27670 Wisteria St<br>2nd Address Continued Harrison Township, Michigan 48045<br>2nd Address Date 01 Sep 1987<br>Possible Relatives Frederick Theodore Havrilla Iii, Jessie Havrilla, Sandra L Havrilla<br>Record Number 1604356382015-11-29 15:22:09Zrcj137http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1603.3/mb.ashxRe: HAVRILLA or Harilla, Imogenehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1603.1/mb.ashx
I’m not related to any member of this family. <br><br>1940 is the last available census at this time. <br><br><br>WHAT was her married name ??<br><br>HAVRILLA or Harilla names do not appear on the SSDI.<br>Need her DOB + birthplace2015-11-28 12:46:27Zthomasker2http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1603.1/mb.ashxHAVRILLA or Harilla, Imogenehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1603/mb.ashx
Looking for a death date. Imogene Havrilla died Mt. Clemons MI either 1984 or 1985. Hoping to find the death date so I can order an obit and death certificate. Thank you! We know virtually nothing about Imogene.2015-11-28 00:39:51ZKirbvighttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1603/mb.ashxlook uphttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1601/mb.ashx
Need a look up in the following:<br>Dedication Booklet St. Matthew's and St. Peter's Evangelical and Reformed Church April 27, 1952. I believe this congregation is now Hope UCC of Fraser. I am looking for information on Rev. Robert Kuebler who was the interim pastor at the time of this merger2015-09-21 13:50:27Zdrelativeshttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1601/mb.ashxRe: JOEL FARNUM 1959-1976http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1434.1/mb.ashx
Joel was born on 7/18/1958 and the Macomb Daily newspaper has an article and picture.2015-07-15 13:18:36Zdelmore222http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.macomb/1434.1/mb.ashx