Kronos wrote:It's good that these bikes come with a lifetime warranty. I'd like to know exactly what is considered a "lifetime" though, is it for the reasonable life of a bike (under Australian consumer laws) or is it your lifetime? Is it also transferable to someone else or not? Given I've seen some pretty catastrophic failures such as this one (on a seat post) and on my brother's BMC team machine, I second guess the purpose of carbon for a daily which is another reason why I'm going back to steel for my own commuter bike.

Glad to see you got a favourable result none the less.

Not transferable I believe, but I've read online of people claiming frame replacements 10 years down the track with no problems, provided they can show their proof of purchase.I've taken to photocopying my receipts as thermal paper can fade over time, leaving you with a blank piece of paper stapled to your records.

When you are driving your car, you are not stuck IN traffic - you ARE the traffic!!!

Kronos wrote:It's good that these bikes come with a lifetime warranty. I'd like to know exactly what is considered a "lifetime" though, is it for the reasonable life of a bike (under Australian consumer laws) or is it your lifetime? Is it also transferable to someone else or not? Given I've seen some pretty catastrophic failures such as this one (on a seat post) and on my brother's BMC team machine, I second guess the purpose of carbon for a daily which is another reason why I'm going back to steel for my own commuter bike.

Glad to see you got a favourable result none the less.

Not transferable I believe, but I've read online of people claiming frame replacements 10 years down the track with no problems, provided they can show their proof of purchase.I've taken to photocopying my receipts as thermal paper can fade over time, leaving you with a blank piece of paper stapled to your records.

The official Giant wording is "for as long as you own the bike".

One caveat for owners of older bikes is that the "lifetime" warranty only came in around 2007 or so; prior to then it was a 10-year warranty. The valid warranty term is that which was current at the time the bike was purchased.

Well we (my brother and I) spent yesterday updating the Kronos to modern riding standards with SRAM DoubleTap brifters, a SRAM Rival groupset and chainset, SRAM Apex derailleur. It also has a new bottom bracket. Step 1 in making this bike capable of being rode. The next bit for me is to replace the 110mm quill with a shorter one and to get some new pedals also.

It feels good to be bringing an old bike back to life particularly a mixed bred like this. Check the modern Giant logo on a steel lugged frame bike The compact geometry, short top tube and frame size make it an almost perfect fit for me in a modern/classic setup. Job almost done, the first step was to upgrade to a modern group/chainset. The next is to make this bike blogworthy.

It's for sure not the lightest bike in the world but there is something cool about giving new life to an old bike.

stevenaaus wrote:Should i worry about this crack underneath the junction of the seat tube and stays on my 2016 model Defy Advanced 2 ? It's a couple of years old now, but i only ride 100km a week or so.

My local bike store has closed too, so it's now a couple of hours drive to the nearest dealer.

With such a good clear photo of the crack, you should be able to phone that store 2 hours away, email them the photo, then they're able to give their opinion before you get in the car, rather than drive 2 hours and be told it's not an issue.And get their response via email if they tell you it's not a problem, in case they turn out to be wrong. But Giant seem to have a good rep for after sale service.

When you are driving your car, you are not stuck IN traffic - you ARE the traffic!!!

Yeah, thanks for the feedback. I'll contact a store and hopefully get it sorted.

It's a shame about the crack. I've come to really appreciate that bike as a do-anything roadie, but hopefully it won't be out of action for too long.

I got a new Shimano rotor and pads for the front brake yesterday.... gonna see if i can fix the pad fouling, noise and juddering around fast bends. Those cable TPR disc brakes are *so* close to being a great budget option... but not quite, and they were replaced in the 2017 model.

I would observe it, but not be too worried about it. That area of the frame is very solidly built, not only because of the loads that go into the bottom bracket area, but also because the chainstays are bonded in to that section there's a fair bit of ovelap material in the join area.

Additionally, due to the pigments and fillers, white paint is more brittle & prone to surface crazing than other colours, so it's very likely to be only a surface mark.

Duck! wrote:I would observe it, but not be too worried about it. That area of the frame is very solidly built, not only because of the loads that go into the bottom bracket area, but also because the chainstays are bonded in to that section there's a fair bit of ovelap material in the join area.

Additionally, due to the pigments and fillers, white paint is more brittle & prone to surface crazing than other colours, so it's very likely to be only a surface mark.

'k, cheers.So far I've got no reply from the city store, so i guess i'll just ride it and see what happens.

Duck! wrote:I would observe it, but not be too worried about it. That area of the frame is very solidly built, not only because of the loads that go into the bottom bracket area, but also because the chainstays are bonded in to that section there's a fair bit of ovelap material in the join area.

Additionally, due to the pigments and fillers, white paint is more brittle & prone to surface crazing than other colours, so it's very likely to be only a surface mark.

'k, cheers.So far I've got no reply from the city store, so i guess i'll just ride it and see what happens.

I wouldn't... There's a perfectly good example of why I wouldn't either. I went and looked at a CAAD 5 that clearly had aluminum corrosion on the top tube. The owner complained till he was blue in the face that the damage was not structural and because Cannondale said it was OK he didn't do anything about it.

Any sign of structural damage like this should be fully investigated, and if your local bike shop wont investigate it, I'd contact the Giant service department myself if I were in your shoes. In the end it will either break at some point or you will have no resale value what so ever unless you sell it to an unsuspecting buyer. The later case is not really morally justifiable.

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