You probably passed out from anxiety as a result of pain. Cannabis and caffeine make anxiety attacks much worse. How's your blood pressure? Good luck.

If you're talking about when i first passed out it wasn't really from pain. There was pain but mostly nausea. i was walking around the back of the car to lay down in the back to try and keep from throwing up and just passed out. BP is about 130/75
Regarding the marijuana however the nurse said part of the reason i was in so much pain after the surgery had to do with THC attaching to the same receptors as the hydrocodone.

heading to my post op appointment in a few minutes. just got back from a quick tour since it snowed about 4" last night and i've been going crazy. still a little sore stiff and swollen on the side with the most work but everything is working fine. plus it's better to ask forgiveness than permission...

eidt - apparently i was 33 days too early (and climbing yesterday i was 34 days too early).

heading to my post op appointment in a few minutes. just got back from a quick tour since it snowed about 4" last night and i've been going crazy. still a little sore stiff and swollen on the side with the most work but everything is working fine. plus it's better to ask forgiveness than permission...

eidt - apparently i was 33 days too early (and climbing yesterday i was 34 days too early).

I wouldn't worry about it. The hernia repair is as strong as it's every going to be when you get off the operating table. If you do too much too soon you'll hurt yourself but not harm yourself. But don't tell her I said that; my kid goes back to Barton next month and she might figure out the connection and give him a hard time. : -- )

this is the part that scares me now. Since that night at work two nights ago the side that hurts is the left side, which had a small hernia but wasn't the problem side. what scares me most is the intense pain with even a slight cough. And it's the feeling that the intestine is bulging against the mesh causing a searing pain that has me worried.
Should i be?

I had the same experience with a double inguinal hernia two years ago. I went in with an obvious hernia on the right and the surgeon said she would check the left while she was in there and repair it if she found one. She found one and fixed it. The pain after initial recovery was mind-bending on the left and nothing too bad on the right. It reached the point where I had to call a taxi to take me back to her office, which I crawled into. She said what does it feel like? I said it felt like she ripped me in two and she said basically that's what it was like. I was born with double inguinal hernias and had them repaired as an infant in 1956. She said there was a mess of scar tissue that she had to rip her way through to implant the mesh. She said that everything was fine and I should just be patient. And she was right. It did get better.

I have a hard time remembering how long it took because I experienced a much greater trauma about 3 weeks after the surgery when I collapsed while walking around my neighborhood 45 minutes after dinner and flatlined in the ambulance. I spent several days in the cardiac ward with all these docs telling me I'd had a heart attack until the cardiologist came in and said he didn't think so. Angiogram proved he was right--no damage and no blockages. I had collapsed with anaphylactic shock from an allergic reaction to something I ate. A year of testing at National Jewish led to the most likely culprit, saffron. I made paella that night like I had been doing every Friday for years. In retrospect, I do recall some weird chest sensations and syncope events after those meals but never connected it to a possible allergy. I've had none of those feelings since. It remains a mystery why it resolved without epi being administered but my thinking is that the quantity of saffron was really small and was likely buffered by the rest of the dish and the ice cream I ate for dessert. It caused a vaso-vagal response that collapsed one of my coronary arteries as I went into anaphylaxis. I remember one thing. I was trying to breathe and it was like I was in the vacuum of space. No air whatsoever would pass my throat. It was instantaneous, 45 minutes after dinner.

My heart is fine and I climbed and skied the Emperor Face on Torreys (14er...I lived in Colorado then) about 6 weeks after that incident. By then the hernia was fine as well. I still feel the mesh on both sides and sometimes get some flashes of pain but really it's ok now. That's just how it went for me. It was a rough spring that year.

I boiled my thermometer, and sure enough, this spot, which purported to be two thousand feet higher than the locality of the hotel, turned out to be nine thousand feet LOWER. Thus the fact was clearly demonstrated that, ABOVE A CERTAIN POINT, THE HIGHER A POINT SEEMS TO BE, THE LOWER IT ACTUALLY IS. Our ascent itself was a great achievement, but this contribution to science was an inconceivably greater matter.

I had the same experience with a double inguinal hernia two years ago. I went in with an obvious hernia on the right and the surgeon said she would check the left while she was in there and repair it if she found one. She found one and fixed it. The pain after initial recovery was mind-bending on the left and nothing too bad on the right. It reached the point where I had to call a taxi to take me back to her office, which I crawled into. She said what does it feel like? I said it felt like she ripped me in two and she said basically that's what it was like. I was born with double inguinal hernias and had them repaired as an infant in 1956. She said there was a mess of scar tissue that she had to rip her way through to implant the mesh. She said that everything was fine and I should just be patient. And she was right. It did get better.

I have a hard time remembering how long it took because I experienced a much greater trauma about 3 weeks after the surgery when I collapsed while walking around my neighborhood 45 minutes after dinner and flatlined in the ambulance. I spent several days in the cardiac ward with all these docs telling me I'd had a heart attack until the cardiologist came in and said he didn't think so. Angiogram proved he was right--no damage and no blockages. I had collapsed with anaphylactic shock from an allergic reaction to something I ate. A year of testing at National Jewish led to the most likely culprit, saffron. I made paella that night like I had been doing every Friday for years. In retrospect, I do recall some weird chest sensations and syncope events after those meals but never connected it to a possible allergy. I've had none of those feelings since. It remains a mystery why it resolved without epi being administered but my thinking is that the quantity of saffron was really small and was likely buffered by the rest of the dish and the ice cream I ate for dessert. It caused a vaso-vagal response that collapsed one of my coronary arteries as I went into anaphylaxis. I remember one thing. I was trying to breathe and it was like I was in the vacuum of space. No air whatsoever would pass my throat. It was instantaneous, 45 minutes after dinner.

My heart is fine and I climbed and skied the Emperor Face on Torreys (14er...I lived in Colorado then) about 6 weeks after that incident. By then the hernia was fine as well. I still feel the mesh on both sides and sometimes get some flashes of pain but really it's ok now. That's just how it went for me. It was a rough spring that year.

Scary. At least you're allergic to something that you won't run into very often, although I do like my saffron and it sounds like you did too.

Scary. At least you're allergic to something that you won't run into very often, although I do like my saffron and it sounds like you did too.

I'm also allergic to all tree nuts, so it has been a scary life all along. I don't go anywhere without epipens, though I did go out for that walk without that night. Never more.

I boiled my thermometer, and sure enough, this spot, which purported to be two thousand feet higher than the locality of the hotel, turned out to be nine thousand feet LOWER. Thus the fact was clearly demonstrated that, ABOVE A CERTAIN POINT, THE HIGHER A POINT SEEMS TO BE, THE LOWER IT ACTUALLY IS. Our ascent itself was a great achievement, but this contribution to science was an inconceivably greater matter.

I live in Japan. Just got a refill plus two other meds for about $40. US health care is fucked.

I boiled my thermometer, and sure enough, this spot, which purported to be two thousand feet higher than the locality of the hotel, turned out to be nine thousand feet LOWER. Thus the fact was clearly demonstrated that, ABOVE A CERTAIN POINT, THE HIGHER A POINT SEEMS TO BE, THE LOWER IT ACTUALLY IS. Our ascent itself was a great achievement, but this contribution to science was an inconceivably greater matter.

I boiled my thermometer, and sure enough, this spot, which purported to be two thousand feet higher than the locality of the hotel, turned out to be nine thousand feet LOWER. Thus the fact was clearly demonstrated that, ABOVE A CERTAIN POINT, THE HIGHER A POINT SEEMS TO BE, THE LOWER IT ACTUALLY IS. Our ascent itself was a great achievement, but this contribution to science was an inconceivably greater matter.

Scary. At least you're allergic to something that you won't run into very often.

Ha, had to laugh at this ^^^, because of this:

Originally Posted by telepariah

I'm also allergic to all tree nuts,

Telepariah, that event you describe with the saffron, is that the one that happened just a few years ago here? Or a different event? I know you've had eventful life.

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I boiled my thermometer, and sure enough, this spot, which purported to be two thousand feet higher than the locality of the hotel, turned out to be nine thousand feet LOWER. Thus the fact was clearly demonstrated that, ABOVE A CERTAIN POINT, THE HIGHER A POINT SEEMS TO BE, THE LOWER IT ACTUALLY IS. Our ascent itself was a great achievement, but this contribution to science was an inconceivably greater matter.

I boiled my thermometer, and sure enough, this spot, which purported to be two thousand feet higher than the locality of the hotel, turned out to be nine thousand feet LOWER. Thus the fact was clearly demonstrated that, ABOVE A CERTAIN POINT, THE HIGHER A POINT SEEMS TO BE, THE LOWER IT ACTUALLY IS. Our ascent itself was a great achievement, but this contribution to science was an inconceivably greater matter.

Double Inguinal

Hello All,

I figured i would refresh this thread and share my experience for any of those who find it via Google like I did. I am four days in after double (both sides) inguinal hernias were repaired via a laparoscopic procedure. The doctor says i should be good to ski in the middle of December (about 3-4 weeks in) but we will see how it goes. I have heard as few as 3 weeks to skiing as as long as 8 weeks. For now, i will update you on my first four days.

We are very lucky to have good hospitals here in Cleveland, OH and the surgery went smoothly with a doctor that is very experienced in laparoscopic repair. Doing some reading on open vs. laparoscopic it seems like you want someone experienced to do the laparoscopic procedure. Even though it went smoothly once you have your wits about you post-surgery you realize everything below your belly button hurts. I think i underestimated the procedure given how many are done a year and how easy the doctors made it sound, but its painful. It felt like i just did 10,000 sit ups.

In the first few days i made sure to keep up with the pain pills to not let it get away from me. I alternated ibuprofen and Vicodin and then swapped to just ibuprofen after 2 days. I think whatever you do, moving is going to hurt and laying still feels pretty good.

I know i am supposed to walk as much as i can to help get blood flowing and to help with recovery, but for now i get pretty winded easily. I have done a few 0.4 mile walks and that's about all i can handle. Stairs are fine, its really standing straight up, stretching those stomach muscles and taking full strides that hurts.

Now on day four i have been better every day. it still hurts but that "10,000 sit ups" feeling is gone. I am now most focused on the swelling around the actual hernia sites and some lesser pain around the incisions. Still painful but im able to more of a normal human being.

I will re-post in about 4 weeks to give an update on longer recovery times. I hope by that time i am asymptomatic and can start training again in preparation for some January/February ski trips. I'm most afraid of hitting the slopes without my normal workouts and tearing an ACL, but ill check back and let you know how it goes.