Larry Coon to the rescue: Biedrins’ base-year status goes away after June 30

* 10:33 p.m. update: What can I say? This blog is sustained in large part by comment-hatred. It’s strange. It’s unexplainable. It’s nothing I purposely attempt to draw–other than by delighting in poking at the politically-connected weasels, as Lowell C calls ’em, who seem to spawn great waves of comment-defenders who are consistently very very angry at me, using very similar phrasing.

But it’s undeniable. Maybe I’m just a hate-able guy who draws readers by sheer feats of magic. Can’t explain it. Either the hatred itself is a draw or the hatred-people come in huge numbers or it’s just the items that stir the hatred that are otherwise popular to the 99.9% of readers who do not comment with hatred… I dunno. The numbers are quite convincing. I guess I have to say: Thanks to all you guys with almost identical ip addresses! And yes. YES YES BUY WARRIORS TICKETS!

On NBA salary-cap issues, there is only one go-to guy and his name is Larry Coon and I went to him with Andris Biedrins questions.

Coon just delivered. Oops. Contrary to what I suggested just a few hours ago, it appears that Biedrins’ base-year status (which makes it very difficult to be traded) will cease to exist after June 30, according to CBA rules that I was too stupid to understand.

I’m double-checking with him on Monta Ellis’ status, but it appears to be the same as Biedrins–base-year for now, not-base-year after June 30.

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I’ll go back and clear it up on the previous item, but I figured I should give it a separate headline, just to be as clear as possible.

Just for example, the disappearance of Biedrins’ BYC status means that, if the two teams wanted to, they could do a trade that looked like this, or is focused on this:

Bosh FOR Biedrins + Randolph + Belinelli.

Such a deal, or anything like it, is impossible as long as Biedrins has BYC status. Which ends June 30.

Tim Kawakami

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This team’s problem is who’s sitting on the bench… Randolph far too often and, more imprtant, Nellie all the time.

PJ Chokewell

Just Curious Tim,

How many of your “defenders” have similar IP addresses as well?

what a dope.

Buzz r Beater

Hello Kawakami,

Tim, you seem to be inferring that the Dubs have a PR department or some such thing,commenting on your board. Correct? Well, I think I’ve got a solution.

At the next Warriors press conference, one that is being filmed preferably, why don’t you raise your hand, stand up and shout to Rowell or Nelson or whoever. “Have you guys paid your employees to hate on me on my blog!!?” I think in this situation, the more dramatic you can be the better.

That could be the funniest thing ever. 😀

~Paranoia can destroya~

Jose San

man, TK is entertaining as hell, and he gets ripped on the daily. I dont always agree with what TK puts out there, by a long shot, but im glad he’s putting it down. Admitt it, all you TK bashers would be sooo bored without his weekly chime ins on our beloved Warriors, at least he’s trying to give us something, he could NOT be. Do your thing TK, and way to put Bobby Rowell on blast at the press conf.

http://southofheaven.typepad.com/ Bob In Pacifica

The Warriors are like those fifty-car pileups on a foggy Midwest highway. After the first couple cars crash you just wait for the next car to run into it, and then the next. Just when you think it’s over another car comes over the hill and ploughs into the mess. And then there’ll be a tractor trailer crashing through it all, making a spectacular noise with wreckage thrown so far into the air that you forget how bad the last car crashing into the pileup was. Each crash is so much more terrible you can hardly remember the first couple of cars. And people are scrambling to get away, or trying to pull loved ones out of the twisted metal. And then another car comes zooming into the tangle. It’s like nothing can stop the carnage. It just gets worse and worse.

That’s what the Warriors are like. You’re standing on the side of the road waiting for the next god-awful collision. It’s so awful you have to look, but it’s so awful you get sick to your stomach.

Luckily, it’s not as bad as the Clippers.

petreroskinano

regardless of your math epiphany, your basketball iq is still behind the curve. bosh for biedrins, belinelli, and randolph? kidding?

#6 DW ,
My thoughts exactly!
#18 hibcbcbc, I totally agree. This would be a good team.

Marco

Andris would develop faster if he went to another team. But I hope the Warriors won’t be so dumb to trade him.

FredCDobbs

Well Tim, I love this blog and check on it most days, and I’m a Celtics fan living in Austin, TX! Somehow you make reading about the inter-office turmoil of a bad team riviting.

p.s. Any possibility of you revisiting Mullin’s attempts to get K.G. in a trade? That would have changed the future for the entire league.

Common Sense

ok, everyone disclose their IP addresses now. That is the only way to get to the bottom of things. I’ll start. Mine is 192.168.0.256

Any takers?

storkshots

TK deletes two comments of mine on here that were critical of him…how surprising…

Come to think of it, TK and his buddy Rowell have a lot more in common than I thought…

KudostoTK

TK has some fierce critics who generally take the time to articulate their disagreements or unhappiness with what he’s written and often contribute insight and information in the process of doing so.

These should be distinguished from the “Kawakami, you suck” types who apart from an occasional bit of humor have only hit and run animosity to offer.

The Warriors have a promising front line in Randolph, Biedrins, Turiaf, and Wright. These guys are all young, they all have a lot of upside, and they’re all popular with the fans. (They are all also Mullin acquisitions and keeping and developing them would be the Mullin way.) I’d like to see the Warriors focus on bringing these guys along and use free agency and the draft to add a couple of quality point guards. The emanations from the press conference the other day, however, are that the Warriors have other plans. Too bad.

RobW

Tim:

I enjoy your blog. Keep it up!

RobW

And no, I won’t be renewing my 4 season tix.

slimman

That is the most fu%#ing foolish trade I have ever seen proposed. Someone alert Robert Rowell to go get it done and cement his status as the biggest tool in the history of the NBA. Chris Bosh is completely overrated. Anthony Randolph in one more season is a better player straight up. And it is pretty damn hard to replace and athletic 7′ center (I guess Andris is technically 6’11″?). If this happens I will no longer even watch on TV. If they trade Biedrins and Randolph I will crap a gold brick. Getting rid of Ellis I am fine with, let him ride his scooter to Toronto for Bosh and that I will be down with. I hate that my favorite team is such a joke, run by jokers…

http://chriscohansucks.blogspot.com/ Chris Cohan

Look at all the reactionary BS after Timmy got serious play!
Shocking.

Hey RRRRRR (Robert Rowell-Ray Ridder Reality Regulation):

YOU LOSE AGAIN!

Kommon Senze

Kudos..

I agree. The young core is something that the team should be focusing on. I was listening to Bob Fitzgerald the other day explain “Memphis has loads of young talent, but look where they are… Oklahoma City has lots of young talent, and they were one of the worst teams in the league”.. as if young talent was some kind of disease. Granted, he did state that the depth provided by the young talent should be utilized to add more veteran pieces, but my concern is that Riley and, by extension, Nelson and Rowell, will give up the wrong depth. Personally, I think Randolph should be off limits. Biedrins, I’d be wary of moving unless the return had a legitimate C in the package. Ellis is the one player I’d be a little more open to trading, only because it’s much easier to find scoring guards than legit, quality big-men.

Naturally, the ‘rumor’ that Kawakami’s presenting is something along the lines of Biedrins/Randolph/Ellis for Bosh. I can’t tell if that’s just him speculating badly, or if it’s based on some real chatter, but it is precisely the type of knee-jerk, over-payment that concerns me. I could see how Rowell might think that because Bosh has a bit more name-recognition as an all-star, that he’d be a bigger draw at the box-office (i.e., a splashy move to keep the turnstiles moving with the ‘casual’ fans). For Nelson, who would rather win now than rebuild, the long-term reprecussions are not as important as the immediate impact.

We’ll see what happens. I do think there is ‘some’ merit to the idea that, if Riley can be more than a yes-man, that having a GM that is in tune with the coach could prove to have its advantages. I just don’t know that I’m on board with the direction that this may take the team.

Unsubstantiated rips on the team, imo, are unnecessary to reporting on what’s going on, btw. If Kawakami can stick to just reporting the details (like he initially did in avoiding over editorializing on the Riley announcement), then perhaps he won’t be ripped as much. When he reverts to the poster taunting (so immature), and the “the Warriors won’t hire Jerry West because they’re scared of him” speculative crap, this blog descends back into the muck-raking that, sadly, is more the rule than the exception.

Craptain Jack

Bosh FOR Biedrins + Randolph + Belinelli.

this would go down as one of the worst trades the warriors ever made. bosh would leave after a year, and we’d lose our future 4 and 5. randolph has the potential to be better than bosh by the time bosh would leave. and biedrins is young, hard working, and a consummate team player.

if you think things suck now….

but i could could see this team of idiots doing just that to try to make up ticket sales for next year. “hey chris bosh, buy a season ticket!”

i mean, we know marketing is more important than the actual product here.

Jeremy

Beidrins & Randolph alone is too much for Bosh talent-wise. Beidrins, Wright, Crawford, and a 2010 1st rounder (Top 3 protected) for Bosh and Bagnani is more like it, but I think the Raps would be extremely hesitant to give up on Bargnani and Bosh in the same deal.

Beidrins, Wright, and Crawford for Bosh and Kapono though would have to be something the Raps consider. Beidrins gives them an inside force signed for the next 5 years, and high upside PF that will either come off the cap next year or they’ll have the Bird rights to, and a legit scoring off-guard with $10M off the cap or for a deadline deal.

Warriors get the borderline superstar and low post scorer they sorely need. Bosh can play with Turiaf and/or Randolph and Kapono is another shooter which will be huge while Bosh collapses the defense and kicks out. Playoff teams win with role players like Kapono and Morrow. See the Spurs every year, see Celtics with Eddie House, see the entire roster of the Magic and Cavs. Although, I would’ve rather had Anthony Parker than Kapono…. but Parker isn’t under contract.

They still need a PG, but they can get one in the draft this year. In the meantime, Belinelli/Watson/Ellis will have to do. They would need another big body too if they went the Kapono route, unless Jamareo is making the team again

This team still just needs to play together and get a feel for one another. Sometimes all it takes is some continuity to achieve rapid growth and success.

Jeremy

and #7 J Canseco caught me off guard and i almost spit out my coffee hahah

nice one

ATTI2DE

More Kawakami BS…I’m sure Tim(or his IT department) knows you can easily find out the city/state/area an IP address is coming from(with some exceptions) if you want to. If it’s say, out of state, I think you can safely say that it is not a Warrior employee. But why go to all that trouble when claiming his haters are Warriors employees is so much more interesting. LMAO

Pure damage control Kawakami.

Max

TK: ” am gonna watch em 1000 ping pong balls being loaded
in that JUMBO lotto machine…will be watching closely if Team A is chosen, them ping pong balls have to be removed..one by one in front of em CPAs.
Max: There is no 1000 ping pong balls !!
TK: Like I said. am gonna watch em 1000 ping pong balls flying inside
that big round thing till one pops up..also check my odds for the W’s..
accuracy to 2 decimal places..

skk

tk, if you have connections with the prominent warriors staff, why don’t you say something like “in no uncertain terms, warriors fans wouldn’t stand for ______ being traded for _______, ” and “you have no basketball sense so please don’t try to be engaged in a trade with the desired younger players, who are the only reason fans support the team.” cohan and rowell are in their own world, and someone with some stature has to disrupt their plotting. it scared me when riley said something like “a good general manager has to be unafraid of making big decisions.” i am very afraid of him making (big) decisions! this offseason the warriors just need to load off their 2 underperforming vets (how many volume shooters does a team need?!?!?!), and hope to luck into rubio. anyways, those 2 guys gone, with rubio around, all’s well in w’s land.

jasonbourne

“Bosh FOR Biedrins + Randolph + Belinelli.”

That sounds like something that fat idiot Don Nelson would do and Larry Riley takes the blame if Chris Bosh doesn’t work out at center.

CaliJumpa

What about moving AR to the 3 spot??
Trade Monta and whoever else to make the contracts work out for Bosh. Sign Andre Miller. Here is the new starting lineup:
1- Andre Miller
2- S Jackson
3- AR
4- Bosh
5- Biedrins

That looks like a winning team to me.

The Bridge

If tk can blast the Warriors organization to no abandon. Why isn’t ok to blast him for his faulty work as well? Tk must be giving it to his beloved followers with a strap on. Blind whining follower’s. If you don’t like what the management has to offer, cheer for the 50% female Lakers. Cohen/Rowell/Nelson aren’t going away any time soon. You were the same guy’s saying the dubs were the greatest and most entertaining brand of basketball for the last two years. You aren’t true fans. Turn your back on Nelson at the first season of adversity? Telling prople not to buy tickets, that’s just being a major hater, blind following the biggest hater of them all TK. Us true warriors fans don’t want you bandwagon followers cheering with us anyway!!

Just read the update. “Thanks to all you guys with almost identical ip addresses! And yes. YES YES BUY WARRIORS TICKETS!”

Seriously lame!! The hatred is towards your faulty reporting and odious writing style!! Nice, pull the conspiracy card to plant the seed of doubt that people disapprove of your writing style.

TK can’t be called the Kobe of reporters. He’s not nearly as talented. He’s a cross between TO and Shilling with a Arnaz Battle talent level. I guess TK is content being the hated reporter just like Kobe and TO, good stuff.

ATTI2DE

Yep…it seems the little/big hater got a little frazzled last night around 10pm. I wonder which post really set him off. So many to choose from. J.Canseco’s was really funny. Tim thinks it’s funny to take his little personal jabs at other people, but apparently he can’t take it when they are directed at him.

That’s just weenyesque.

Twinkie defense

Ellis, Turiaf, Wright, Belinelli for Bosh and Kapono.

Miles Archer

And I thought the sports talk radio callers were crazy.

http://chriscohansucks.blogspot.com/ Chris Cohan

Seriously you guys,

You always try to pull this crap on irrelevant BS after Tim’s nailed your idiot bosses to the wall.

Go pump up some balls or something for the Tony Gaffney workout.

Shoot to Thrill

Uh Oh,

You guys stirred Tim’s pot so hard it cracked. 👿

The Oracle

AB is completely undervalued in Nelsons system.

Nelson’s system doesn’t try to get the ball to the Center in the post at all.

AB has one of the highest conversion rates in the league, yet for most games average only 6 shots per game.

Give the guy 12 shots a game, and he’s a consistent 15p 10 board Center. How many centers in the league produce 15/10? Very few.

Don’t be fooled by Nelson’s small ball system, where guards jack up 25 shots per game and bigs are asked to defend and rebound only. In a more traditional system that gets the center the ball, AB would have much higher scoring and much higher value.