I believe the last poll showed that 70% of the electorate want the Referendum they were promised on the LisbonConTreaty to be held. Is Milipede really branding 70% of us 'extremist' because we don't agree with him and think a Government should honour the promises it made in the Manifesto it was elected to deliver.

That's Labour for you. Disagree with them and you must be an extremist.

So giving the voters of this country an opportunity to have their say on a treaty that is currently being forced on us is extremist is Mr Millipide. It's called democracy you left wing moron, something the Liebor party have been trying to get rid of in the last 10 years.

Correct. The Labour leadership are only interested in getting the right outcome that suits them, and as Labour know we would vote against the Lisbon Treaty they will try and tarnish the views of us who oppose Lisbon with the slander of calling us ‘extremists.’

Of course if the government classify opposition to a referendum as 'extremist' it justifies the government spending millions of existing Home Office 'Preventing Extremism' funds on propaganda and other measures to counter Euroscepticism.

As the Home Office press release said recently "We sought views on a proposed legal process and powers that strengthen the hand of the community and police in dealing with extremism".

Referenda are a good mechanism for measuring democratic consent. Which is why there were votes in Scotland and Wales when Labour enacted its devolution packages. In principle constitutional change involving the EU or the electoral system used for the House of Commons is no different.

If wanting a promised referendum is "extremist", what is "passionately loathing this corrupt, undemocratic foreign power which is leeching away our sovereignty and trying to dictate every detail of our lives, to the point of prescribing what kind of lightbulb we are allowed to read by in our own homes"?

Oh and James Collins will be a legend at the Villa Iain :) Good player but I digress, so 70% of the population are extremist then, shocking!

The pure contempt I have for this Government is unreal and now were going to further weaken our position on the world stage by getting rid of a further submarine!! How big is the Navy now 17 ships?!? Oh well I suppose its for a good cause, got to keep the core vote happy on the hand outs I suppose.

Mili wants extremist? Try this for size!!! ~The EU is really the EE (Evil Empire) that has achived what Stalin and Hitler failed to do. It has destroyed Britain as most of us would have liked it to remain. Edward Heath should be postumously tried for treason and when found guilty dug up, beheaded, and his head stuck on a spike at the House of Commons.

Miliband seems to have forgotten the old saying "You might as well be hung for a sheep as for a lamb".If I am to be considered extremist for simply wanting a referendum, then I might as well become genuinely extremist by, say, supporting the BNP.No doubt before long Labour will consider it as extremist if one belongs to the Conservative party.It simply shows that words such as "extremist", "racist", etc, have lost all real meaning in modern labour politics

We've already ratified the treaty. It is quite extreme to suggest that we revoke that ratification. I can't find any other treaty which the United Kingdom has ratified, then revoked its ratification before it came into force.

Face it - this issue is over, and the Irish are likely to save the Conservatives from the consequences of their foolishness by approving Lisbon next month.

Yes now he is saying that without the EU we will not be at the table with the US and China .For that global fantasy to be a reality the EU would have to have...a foreign Policy and be a single State.( Thats even if we thought his world conspiracy theory had any truth to start with ). Milliband told the New Statesman earlier this year that the EU already had a foreign Policy , I thought we had a treaty which was part of “Our ”foreign Policy silly me

The EU is detested so Labour bang on about how they ,lied sold us all out. IHT was loathed and they cannot stop mentioning it. Whoever works out their strategy ought to be listening very carefully to today’s guidance on assisted suicide

The Government refused to hold a referendum here. The Conservatives, however, have not ruled out offering a vote even if the treaty has become law by the time they come to power.

A “no” vote in Britain would then, according to scaremongers would, inevitably lead to Britain withdrawing from the treaty and effectively “de-ratifying” it across the Continent – throwing the EU into chaos and potentially forcing a large majority of member states to draw up a new treaty from which Britain would be excluded!

The British Government, following a conspiracy involving the timing of the take-over of power between Blair and Brown, the lying and manipulation of D. Milliband and M. Beckett and various parliamentary shenanigans unworthy in any democracy (but, shamefully, involving the three leaders of the main political parties) has already ratified the Lisbon Treaty, had it printed on animal skin, signed by the Queen and lodged in Rome!.

Once the other 26 signatories similarly legally ratify that treaty it becomes binding on all 27 members for all time, only allowing withdrawal from its totalitarian and democracy destroying provisions by the trigger of its own withdrawal procedures, effectively requiring national castration and other even more severe forms of sovereign self-mutilation.

There is not, nor can there ever be the possibility of - “de-ratifying” it across the Continent.

Why Cameron has not given the British people the truth is beyond me. Surely it would have strengthened his hand against Brown. Painting him as the man who ended our democracy!

It would also assist Cameron in reducing Parliament by 50%. It will be akin to a Parish Council.

That Cameron cannot be open and honest with us all tells me that he is part of the political conspiracy!

Assuming you haven't made this up (and can't find anything to substantiate your 'story'), it's fairly clear what he's saying. Most of the people calling for a referendum hold a relatively 'extreme' position, that is, they want to pull out of the EU. The frothing comments so far, rather prove his point, don't you think (e.g. 'wanting a general eleciton will presumably be an act of terrorism then' etc)?

Miliband is probably just trying to position himself for the Labour leadership. David seems to have a problem in saying a few provokitive statements and then bottling out of anything more.

If I had a dead fish floating in a glass jar and had the media surrounding me - I think I would call the dead fish floating in water David Miliband. Calling it Peter would mean a reincarnation of Mandelson, he has not changed - spinning and slaeze!

It's not just the leader they need to change it's the policies. Ok, they may get a boost if they changed leader, but they'd still be trailing in the polls. They need direction and purpose. At mo they're just in for power's sake.

And I'm not sure the BP would stomach another leader without a general election. They will stick with Brown till the bitter end....

Telegraph: In unusually strong language for a senior member of the Cabinet, he criticised the surrendering to “euro-extremism” of David Cameron, the party leader, and William Hague, shadow foreign secretary.

The inference to the conservatives' fellow European party group (ECR) NOT that a Euro Referendum is "extremism"

Though i despise and disagree with Milroundhisneck your title is very misleading.

The big concern here for NuLab apologists like Boothroyd, is that the dream of an over-arching socialist super-state, which could curb the potential of any inconvenient UK Conservative governments, is at threat.

The rather convenient EU doctrine that no new member state government can undo previously agreed Treaties is at threat.

Respected Constitutionalists such as Dicey have long held that no parliament/government can bind its successor. That is, as far as anyone is concerned, how it stands, but there has been an "understanding" that none would attempt to go back on agreements so far as the EU was concerned.

If Cameron and Hague start demanding powers back, then how long will it be before other governments start to demand to renegotiate their entry terms.

Of course that would be the end of the anti-democratic socialist utopia. Transfer of powers between the EU and the member state have thus far been one-way. If a precedent is set showing that it is actually a two-way street, then the dream for the likes of Boothroyd and Millipede will be over.....Thankfully

I did watch the so called 'Lisbon Treaty' being put through Parliament. It was put through by two Lying 'extremists' Murphy and Miliband. For 'extremist' read someone who will say anything to prevent citizens of this country performing their Democratic rights.

Milliband is right. The call for a referendum is of course a chimera - it is simply a device used by Eurosceptics to further their cause - even up to the point of withdrawal from the EU. UKIP country, but also not unpalatable to rather a lot of Conservatives. But…

 The Treaty is a done deal.  Britain's membership of the EU is a done deal. There will be little or no change in the balance between Brussels and London in respect of decision -making. We are in Europe to stay. We need to at last work within the EU as an enthusiastic member not be seen as a reluctant bystander. Blair's refusal to enter enthusiastically into Europe and adopt the Euro (etc.) to appease Murdoch is the second biggest error and disgrace of his Premiership (Iraq of course the first). Cameron will need to understand these realities very soon.

Miliband's (hehe his name is similar to a well-known arthropod) use of the word extremism was foolish but the truth is that by withdrawing from the EPP the Tories have seriously weakened the UK's ability to stand up against European legislation which has the potential to harm our national interest. It is immensely shortsighted, intellectually bankrupt and driven purely by ideological fervour. In short, it's everything politics shouldn't be.

5 mins on the net will show you that the world is run by 12 Jewish megalomaniacs/lizards, Dick Chaney flew planes into the towers etc. etc.

I have always held less cynical views about our politics and our politicians.

Miliband was somebody who I considered ultimately principled and far from stupid. Slightly too far down the New Labour route of professional lies and spin for his own good but I was happy to blame that on prevailing cultures.

After reading his article this morning however I was actually shocked. This is as low as it gets. Completely and utterly indefensible.

I therefore want to know what DM thinks about this. Because he is not a fool he must surely realise he is engaging in a nakedly opportunist, cynical, desperate and underhand tactics.

Surely he can no longer ponder why the country hates his party so much. Surely he could see before he wrote it that his assertion was guff at best. Plain dishonesty more likely.

Just what the hell is going on? Who will reward him for this move later down the track? Because as it stands this really baffles me. He cannot be that stupid. He is surely that cynical or has been asked to do it.

Or perhaps I am wrong and he is simply a vicious lying turd. A Minister of GB... What a shame.

Have a look at page 28 of the COUNCIL DECISION on the establishment of the European Criminal Records Information System (ECRIS) in application of Article 11 of Framework Decision 2008/…/JHA to see that Insult of the State, Nation or State symbols is a reportable offence.http://www.statewatch.org/news/2009/jan/eu-council-decision-ecris-14571-08.pdf

Also, once passed, the treaty allows for changes to the laws without further approval by the nation states.

The term socialist dictatorship springs to mind as the MEPs have no power and no democratic mandate.(They're picked by the parties, so the elctorate can't choose who represents them and idependent candidates have no chance).

He is right. But not for the reason, if any, that he has in his mind, if any.

If David Cameron really were against the Lisbon Treaty, then he would have put down Second and Third Reading Amendments rejecting it because of its content, without mentioning a referendum. And he would now be promising not to ratify it, again without any need of a referendum. We all know why he isn’t. He wants to hand for the decision to the BBC during the month leading up to a referendum, thereby guaranteeing a Yes vote.

The party of the Treaty of Rome, of Thatcher’s Single European Act and of the Maastricht Treaty has not changed one bit. It never will. It can’t. He is indeed a "Euro extremists".

As, for that matter, is anyone who wishes to subject us to the legislative will, but in the Council of Ministers and in the European Parliament, of Stalinists, Trotskyists, neo-Fascists, neo-Nazis, members of Eastern Europe’s kleptomaniac nomenklatura (among other neocon crazies), people who believe the Provisional Army Council to be the sovereign body throughout Ireland. Soon to be joined by Turkish Islamists, Turkish ultra-nationalists, and Marxist Kurdish separatists.

Ted Heath was a Euro extremist. Margaret Thatcher was a Euro extremist. John Major was a Euro extremist. Tony Blair was a Euro extremist. David Cameron is a Euro extremist.

It is obvious that people, like Trevors Den who has yet again proved he opens mouth before engaging brain, know nothing about the deceit and treachery by politicians of all parties, over the years, ending with Brown and this Parliament completed the work by forcing through - WITH Conservative support!!-.and ratifying the Lisbon Treaty,it was printed on animal skin, signed by the Queen and lodged in Rome!. As I mentioned earlier.

We have all been let down by politicians and our Queen who, in my view,disregarded her oath to safeguard our democracy, taken at her coronation.

So Trevors Den, please note Cameron knows there is nothing he can do about it. Personally I believe he is happy with that situation. Why cannot he be honest with the British people?

Re the EU's desperate pursuit of your stalwart insults of its tawdry institutions & etc I dare say you will outwit them by registering your company in the WIndies, like Paul Staines, or copying Chesterton's heroes in "The Flying Inn" - eh?

You really don't get it; is freedom of speach not in your approved list of principles.

Firstly, the apparatchicks get to decide what is an insult (pointing out that they can't even get their accounts signed off by an auditor probably counts as an inplicit insult).Secondly, if we have no right to dissent we have no freedom worth speaking of.

Feel free to continue being a supporter of socialist ideologies, the USSR was such a lovely place they had to erect barged wire to stop the flood of people trying to get in.

Miliband says wanting euro referendum is extremist,silly me for expecting one after Blair put it into labour manifesto 2005.Hope Dave will come off the fence and give us something to look forward to yes it is called a referendum on this vile Lisbon Treaty,the one that destroys our democratic right to vote and chuck out a lousy,weak government every 5 years.