This is for web browser page hits, not unit sales. iPhone OS browser shits will also register from the millions of iPods out there. You aren't proving anything related to our topic, as you labeled this OS market share, which is incorrect. This just shows that people are more like to use an iPhone OS device for browsing the web.

So what you are saying is, that in a country with zero Apple stores, all the stores that sell Apple stuff are idiots? Maybe you should notify Apple of this issue so they can solve this issue at once!!!

Well, actually, that is what was wrong with the USA, so Apple addressed it. They are slowly expanding that strategy to the other countries.

Steve loves his users enough that he built 300 stores for us. He did it for our convenience and because he wanted Apple to give stuff to its customers. I'm not sure that he can do it for the whole world. Not even Steve can save the whole world.

Well, actually, that is what was wrong with the USA, so Apple addressed it. They are slowly expanding that strategy to the other countries.

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But the point that was missed, is they cannot, and will not do this in all regions, and all areas in those regions. So if, as the poster claimed, the third party resellers are "idiots", then Apple should do something about it.

Now, I don't believe these resellers are idiots, I purchased a Mac Mini from one, and they were very nice to deal with, but they were empty then, and empty every other time I have gone in there.

They are the second-largest computer company in the world. Their unit shipments dwarf those of Apple.

But all we care about is Apple, so it is easy to miss what is going on in the world around us.

Hate to burst your bubble of meaningless stats but Acer may be the second largest in terms of unit shipments but by most other metrics are also rans...
For the first half of 2010, Apple made 3x as much revenue and 25x as much net income as Acer. Apple makes better margins from iTunes (at 5%) than Acer does from it's entire PC business.
Acer are a shipper of mostly bargain basement PCs, lots of netbooks with razor thin margins and are as much a threat to Apple as Palm...

No delusion. I could drive to the closest dedicated Apple retailer, and it will be empty, just as it always is. And the last time I was at a real Apple shop, the majority of people were browsing websites. If I purchase Apple products the majority of the time I will use the online store.

Deluded or not, your desperate Apple hating is absurd. Old school Apple specialists are being replaced with Apple Stores. Apple Stores are the most revenue generating chain stores in the world. Apple Store 5th Avenue, NYC makes twice as much per square foot as Tiffany's round the corner. To pretend that Apple's stores aren't the most effective and successful retail execution in the past 10 years is to live in la-la-land. Your personal observations notwithstanding of course...

Deluded or not, your desperate Apple hating is absurd. Old school Apple specialists are being replaced with Apple Stores. Apple Stores are the most revenue generating chain stores in the world. Apple Store 5th Avenue, NYC makes twice as much per square foot as Tiffany's round the corner. To pretend that Apple's stores aren't the most effective and successful retail execution in the past 10 years is to live in la-la-land. Your personal observations notwithstanding of course...

Where did you get Apple hating out of my statement? Oh, that's right, I said something that you disagree with, so under the Appleinsider rules I am an Apple Hater. Maybe it is you that should move out of la-la land.

I never said anything about the effectivness of the stores, I didn't say anything about how much they sold, I statement an observation I made when I entered several of them, all the computers were being used by people browsing the internet.

If I buy a device I should have the option to install a plugin on my device.

You do have the option ... it's called jailbreaking ....so jailbreak it and move on already. You know what the real problem is don't you? You're not content to "solve your problem" this way .... you want Apple to make a device (whose demand is already outstripping supply) to be what you and a small minority of others think it should be. Extreme, I hate to break it to you, but you don't represent the majority of consumers, and neither do I, for that matter.

Buy it ... don't buy it ... but stop whining about why Apple is Apple. Most of us are happy with them just the way they are, thank you very much.

Apple, bigger than Google, √ ..... bigger than Microsoft, √ The universe is unfolding as it should. Thanks, Apple.

"• Apple's total sales in 2001 were $5.4 billion. Apple Stores this year: $6.6 billion. (Apple's total sales this year were $36.5 billion.)"

So am I reading this correctly. In close to ten years Apple only increased its retail store revenue by 1 billion? Wouldn't that prove the point that indeed most shopping for Apple is still done online seeing total sales were 36.5 billion.

No you aren't. In 2001, Apple's total sales (including online and the first newly opened retail stores) was 5.4B. Apple made nearly 7x that in total sales for the most recent year used in that article. Just the sales from Apple's retail stores are now 1B greater than what Apple made as a company 9 years ago. I don't think anyone in this thread has claimed most of Apple's sales happen in the Apple store, the claim was that the Apple stores are one of the biggest money making retail stores around, which they are.

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I never said anything about the effectivness of the stores, I didn't say anything about how much they sold, I statement an observation I made when I entered several of them, all the computers were being used by people browsing the internet.

Of course, if one of the things you will be doing a lot on your new computer, iPod, iPhone or iPad is browsing the web, it would be a good idea to see how the browsing experience is while you are looking at the computer. Are some people just using the free access to check some email or something? Probably.

While I haven't gone back and read the thread again I believe the point was being made that Apple still sells more online then they do in retail stores. I don't disagree that Apple stores make a solid profit but I do agree with the other member that most of the time when an Apple store is packed its with teens using facebook.

I don't recall anyone pointing that out, which given the fact that there are only 300 retail stores (mostly within the US, stores in 9 other countries), anyone claiming the retail store was the main mover of Apple products would be pretty foolish. On this page, someone claimed Apple was the most profitable retailer per sq ft and then posted the data when requested. Then I corrected his interpretation of the data

As far as Apple Store usage, the only information I have for that is anecdotal. The Louisville KY Apple Store has some teens in the store, but most of the customers are typically 20s and up and are using a pretty wide variety of applications. Just my personal experience when we've gone in there, which we tend to do reasonably often as my kids enjoy the store too

No because I am the customer that paid full price for the device which makes it mine. I know thats an odd concept for fanboys.

did someone promise you plug-ins would work? were you deceived? no. then own up to the fact you made a mistake - it's your mistake - and just move on. or hack it, since you own it, and do whatever you can with it. or sell it on eBay. or turn it into a flowerpot or whatever. but please stop whining.

Where did you get Apple hating out of my statement? Oh, that's right, I said something that you disagree with, so under the Appleinsider rules I am an Apple Hater. Maybe it is you that should move out of la-la land.

I never said anything about the effectivness of the stores, I didn't say anything about how much they sold, I statement an observation I made when I entered several of them, all the computers were being used by people browsing the internet.

" Apple's total sales in 2001 were $5.4 billion. Apple Stores this year: $6.6 billion. (Apple's total sales this year were $36.5 billion.)"

So am I reading this correctly. In close to ten years Apple only increased its retail store revenue by 1 billion? Wouldn't that prove the point that indeed most shopping for Apple is still done online seeing total sales were 36.5 billion.

Just some more stats just in case... Apple has grown 7x in 9 years and is continuing to grow at an accelerating rate. Likely Apple will do over $62-63Bn this year (FY2010) which would be >12x in 10 years. Insane. The same size as Dell, but vastly more profitable (~6.5x). That will also be about the same hardware revenue than IBM this year (though IBM GS makes them 50% bigger overall). Same net income as IBM on 65% of the revenue.

Before you say I'm a troll, remember the story where Jobs walks out of a restaurant cause he can't get a table? It was the lead story at AI and the photos were picked apart to see if they were fakes. Comparing shadows on objects and such stuff.

-Would you wait around if you couldnt get a table at a restaurant????? I would go elsewhere too. Im sure you would stand in the street for an hour waiting for your table, all the while trolling the Mac sites with your Android phone.

More specific info from Google based on screen size. They show .9% of devices accessing the Android Market in the last 7 days to be 7" and up (extra large).

So the "maybe lots of tablets aren't running Honeycomb" idea doesn't seem to be true. I suppose we could still imagine that there are lots of tablets that infrequently access the market, but there's no reason to think that would be any more true of tablets than any other Android device, and the pie chart is showing total percentages among all devices. That is, its just as likely that handsets would be missed by this metric as tablets so the percentages are probably roughly accurate.

If actual Android tablet sales are much higher than the .9% it doesn't look like it would be by much (or could even be lower) which makes the 1.2 million figure pretty plausible. It also makes talk of 30% Android tablet "market share" absolute nonsense.

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