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Re: Alec burks available?

Yeah, Burks is nowhere near as good as Rush is right now. I definitely wouldn't mind taking a flyer on him if the price was right, but I can't really see us making a trade for another project at this point.

Re: Alec burks available?

i tend to agree with you. Not saying Burks won't be anything, but Pacers don't need another guy. Pacers need another good player. Kind of a catch-22 thing. If Burks was the guy the Pacers need, he wouldn't be available.

Re: Alec burks available?

I'd throw in a future conditional pick for Kanter to be in the deal as well, or I wouldn't do this.

IDK. Al is only signed for 2 more yrs. If he doesn't work out, that's a big contract coming off the books next season. If we could move Hibbert at this point, for a shorter contract AND a bump in production, you've gotta think about it.

Re: Alec burks available?

Like someone else said, there is a reason that Burks is avaliable, and it is not because he is a really good player.

Not necessarily. It could be other reasons: Heywood plays the SG, he doesn't fit in the style of BB Utah plays, coach doesn't care for him, etc.

If Brown had had his way Rose would have been traded. That doesn't mean Rose was a bad player, it just means Rose wasn't a player Brown liked. Another coach by the name of Larry Bird showed that Rose was a good player. As I said it could be other reasons than he's a dud player.

Re: Alec burks available?

Burks is a terrible fit for the Jazz system. They want guys who move well without the ball and move the ball like Marvin Williams and Gordon. Burks just doesn't fit with what they do.

So many times when a player is up for trade the mentality of some is the player has some type of bad problem or the team wouldn't want to trade them. It just can't be, b/c the system and the player don't fit. Thanks for your insight that disspells he's a problem player. It's much appreciated.

Re: Alec burks available?

So many times when a player is up for trade the mentality of some is the player has some type of bad problem or the team wouldn't want to trade them. It just can't be, b/c the system and the player don't fit. Thanks for your insight that disspells he's a problem player. It's much appreciated.

I doubt they trade him but TY Corbin doesn't like him it seems. If he was available I would be all over him he is very talented on the offensive end of the floor just needs a chance. I don't think he will be given one as long as Corbin is the coach. But when they signed Foye to play over him it really made no sense so maybe they will shop him. Ty doesn't seem like the coach who lets the young kids grow and make mistakes. Both Kanter and Burks are on short leashes when they play. In fact it's much like JOB they have young kids who are better than the vets just crazy IMO. They arent winning with the vets play the kids.

EDIT: IMO if he has a coach who has confidence in him and lets him learn and play though mistakes the team will reap the benefits. I hate coaches who are so short sided and don't see the big picture. Both Kanter and Burks look over their shoulder when in because they fear they will get yanked for the smallest of mistakes that isnt how you develop young guys IMO. That is how you shatter confidence and rhythm that they have.

Burks would easily be our best player off the dribble he is better than Lance at it IMO. Would finally have a dynamic player who can create for others and get to the line off the bounce

also another b-rush isnt correct totally different players. I love b-rush and wish we didnt trade him I still miss him. However Burks is a much more aggressive scorer than Rush. Rush is a much better shooter and defender while Burks is much better at creating for others and himself.

Re: Alec burks available?

Burks was an above average player last year and that is a rookie who had no camp. He was only slightly above average but for a rookie who was 20 in his circumstances that is fantastic. This year he has been terrible but that's because he isn't in the rotation. Given the offense we run he would be almost a perfect wing for us. He creates and can post feed and that is what is required with what we run. Lance is the only wing on the roster who fits that criteria currently. Unless we change the offense we need players who fit Burks mold.

sparhawk saying what has Burks done is silly. That would be like asking what PG24 had done when JOB was giving him DNPCD's in favor of vets who weren't as good as him ala Dunleavy. PG was doing nothing was it his fault he wasn't getting PT even though he deserved it?

When JO was in Portland what had he done? Nothing because he wasn't given a chance so the "what has he done" angle doesn't fly with me. When he was given time last year he showed numbers like many all star previous have done but they got their shot in their 2nd and 3rd year to learn make mistakes and get better that Burks has yet to receive this year because of where he plays. He has the potential to be good if given the chance and with Danny's injury we have that chance for him.