It will be fun to watch Manziel leave after next year, get invited to the draft, and then end up a 5th round pick.

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Brilliant letting one of Scott Pioli's henchmen have his own team to ruin. One of the premier GM jobs in the NFL and it gets handed to a stupid **** who makes three facepalm moves for every good one. Awesome. Just like handing a new Mercedes to a 16 year old girl who's already been in three wrecks.

I really can't even put into words what it is exactly about Manziel that I just don't like as an NFL prospect. Maybe it's his body type, maybe it's his play style, or a combination of them. I just don't see him being a premier QB at the next level. Maybe I'm wrong, but he just seems like a different form of Tim Tebow. Much better passer, for sure, but just in terms of being an absolute dynamo in college, but worthless in the NFL.

I really can't even put into words what it is exactly about Manziel that I just don't like as an NFL prospect. Maybe it's his body type, maybe it's his play style, or a combination of them. I just don't see him being a premier QB at the next level. Maybe I'm wrong, but he just seems like a different form of Tim Tebow. Much better passer, for sure, but just in terms of being an absolute dynamo in college, but worthless in the NFL.

Everyone has guys that just "feel" like a bust to them. Since 98, I've been calling it "the Leaf factor."

Blaine Gabbert's a solid example of it for me, even though he looks a lot more like a QB than Manziel.

I really can't even put into words what it is exactly about Manziel that I just don't like as an NFL prospect. Maybe it's his body type, maybe it's his play style, or a combination of them. I just don't see him being a premier QB at the next level. Maybe I'm wrong, but he just seems like a different form of Tim Tebow. Much better passer, for sure, but just in terms of being an absolute dynamo in college, but worthless in the NFL.

It isn't too hard to put into words what not to like about Manziel as a prospect. Undersized, not a great arm, character issues, potential injury future based on size and playing style.

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Brilliant letting one of Scott Pioli's henchmen have his own team to ruin. One of the premier GM jobs in the NFL and it gets handed to a stupid **** who makes three facepalm moves for every good one. Awesome. Just like handing a new Mercedes to a 16 year old girl who's already been in three wrecks.

"More" mobile Jeff Garcia is a little bit of an understatement, I think. Obviously it's tough to tell how well it is going to translate against NFL defenses, but he clearly tore it up last year. While I admit it is a very large range, I see him somewhere between Colt McCoy and Michael Vick. I think he's a lot more athletic/mobile than McCoy, but has a lot less arm strength than Vick (and less athletic, but not by as much as you might think).

Yes there are maturity issues with Manziel, although IMO they're minor, however his game is electric.

I don't think his maturity issues are minor at all. Maybe if he was a receiver. But I hold quarterbacks to a higher standard. He has arrests, he blew a nice opportunity at the Manning camp, and he seems like he doesn't handle the spotlight well (he freaked out over a parking ticket). I think best case scenario he is Michael Vick. An exciting player who I would never want to lead my team.

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Brilliant letting one of Scott Pioli's henchmen have his own team to ruin. One of the premier GM jobs in the NFL and it gets handed to a stupid **** who makes three facepalm moves for every good one. Awesome. Just like handing a new Mercedes to a 16 year old girl who's already been in three wrecks.

The Manning camp thing really is a non-factor and it won't effect his draft stock one bit. How he does in interviews will, however. And of course his measurables and arm strength. I'd expect most teams to pass but one to reach for him for ticket and merchandise sales (like the Jags)

Well teams won't like it as a reflection on his character. Could you imagine RGIII or Andrew Luck doing that kinda thing? No way. Teams aren't gonna reach for him if they don't think he can play. People loved Ryan Mallett's tools, but he fell b/c of his character issues. Being small without an average arm and maturity issues is not a good combination.

The Manning camp thing really is a non-factor and it won't effect his draft stock one bit. How he does in interviews will, however. And of course his measurables and arm strength. I'd expect most teams to pass but one to reach for him for ticket and merchandise sales (like the Jags)

Jaguars don't need help with ticket sales by the way. They haven't been blacked out in a few seasons and they won't be next year either. The idea that the Jags have ticket issues is a myth that is repeated by the national media with complete disregard of the facts.

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Brilliant letting one of Scott Pioli's henchmen have his own team to ruin. One of the premier GM jobs in the NFL and it gets handed to a stupid **** who makes three facepalm moves for every good one. Awesome. Just like handing a new Mercedes to a 16 year old girl who's already been in three wrecks.