This is the fourth incident, in MMA, where Palhares held on a submission after his opponent tapped and there is well known one incident from a grappling tournament in 2011. This is also the guy that jumped up on the cage to celebrate, even though the fight wasn't stopped. His manager's statements don't help much either, he basically said that Palhares isn't malicious, just a simple man that has trouble following instructions.

cato113:This is the fourth incident, in MMA, where Palhares held on a submission after his opponent tapped and there is well known one incident from a grappling tournament in 2011. This is also the guy that jumped up on the cage to celebrate, even though the fight wasn't stopped. His manager's statements don't help much either, he basically said that Palhares isn't malicious, just a simple man that has trouble following instructions.

I get that he is a repeat offender. I'm just thinking he (or his management) said something after the fight that pissed off Dana.

Go back and look at the replay. There's a moment after Pierce has tapped for about the 30th time, and after referee Keith Peterson has flung his body onto the two of them to signal the end of the fight. In that moment you can see the flash of recognition on Palhares' face. He looks down at where the referee is lying, at where Pierce is grimacing in pain, and he knows the fight is over. He has to. Then he gives it one more good, inexcusable yank.

Hmmm. I did not notice that before. I think my opinion is changed. This is the second time in the UFC he has done something like this, and really looking at it closely, total shiatbag move.

In MMA, the only absolute rule is that once the referee intervenes, the fight ends. The issue is that Palhares did not let go immediately after the referee intervened.

Comparing this to DHK getting in the extra shot on Erik Silva, the following details matter:

- DHK got the shot in prior to the referee intervening, Palhares kept the lock going for 1 second. - Palhares has an established history of this kind of thing. - A locked in heel hook can destroy a man's knee and end a career. Brain trauma aside, an extra shot like DHK landed probably wont end a career or cause any obvious lasting harm. - It does not help that Pierce was screaming and tapping like his life depended on it, and Palhares kept the hold locked in for 2 seconds from when Pierce started tapping. - Though I did not see it, what probably pushes this beyond the realm of being acceptable is the report that Palhares knew Pierce tapped and appeared to crank it harder.

mediablitz:cato113: This is the fourth incident, in MMA, where Palhares held on a submission after his opponent tapped and there is well known one incident from a grappling tournament in 2011. This is also the guy that jumped up on the cage to celebrate, even though the fight wasn't stopped. His manager's statements don't help much either, he basically said that Palhares isn't malicious, just a simple man that has trouble following instructions.

I get that he is a repeat offender. I'm just thinking he (or his management) said something after the fight that pissed off Dana.

Let's see what the commission does.

The Commision suspeneded him for 120 days of no contact or competition. I'd say he was in the wrong.

cato113:This is the fourth incident, in MMA, where Palhares held on a submission after his opponent tapped and there is well known one incident from a grappling tournament in 2011. This is also the guy that jumped up on the cage to celebrate, even though the fight wasn't stopped. His manager's statements don't help much either, he basically said that Palhares isn't malicious, just a simple man that has trouble following instructions.

I think the issue is that this isn't his first offense. It's now a pattern of behavior.

cato113:This is the fourth incident, in MMA, where Palhares held on a submission after his opponent tapped and there is well known one incident from a grappling tournament in 2011. This is also the guy that jumped up on the cage to celebrate, even though the fight wasn't stopped. His manager's statements don't help much either, he basically said that Palhares isn't malicious, just a simple man that has trouble following instructions.

After reading the quote from his opponent at the grappling tournament in the article you linked, it sounds like his manager might be telling the truth. Doesn't excuse the behavior, though.

The taps before the ref moves in mean nothing. Until the ref tells you to stop, letting up early, no matter what your opponent is doing, just leads to more issues. If this was anyone else, nothing would be said. He didn't crank it after the fact or let go dirty (by twisting it more to let go of the hold) and the time between referee stoppage and release was fairly quick...

... however, this isn't anyone else, it's Rousimar Palhares. He used up all his warnings many fights ago. He was probably warned in the back for an immediate release when it was called for and he probably held it after the fact just to be defiant.

Even with that said, this is Dana White. Lifetime bans are usually measured in the lifetime of a mistreated goldfish.

Nightenstaff:The taps before the ref moves in mean nothing. Until the ref tells you to stop, letting up early, no matter what your opponent is doing, just leads to more issues. If this was anyone else, nothing would be said. He didn't crank it after the fact or let go dirty (by twisting it more to let go of the hold) and the time between referee stoppage and release was fairly quick...

... however, this isn't anyone else, it's Rousimar Palhares. He used up all his warnings many fights ago. He was probably warned in the back for an immediate release when it was called for and he probably held it after the fact just to be defiant.

Even with that said, this is Dana White. Lifetime bans are usually measured in the lifetime of a mistreated goldfish.

Haha. There is obviously a lot of truth to this; however, he does seem to be sticking to the Paul Daley ban.

NorCalLos:Nightenstaff: The taps before the ref moves in mean nothing. Until the ref tells you to stop, letting up early, no matter what your opponent is doing, just leads to more issues. If this was anyone else, nothing would be said. He didn't crank it after the fact or let go dirty (by twisting it more to let go of the hold) and the time between referee stoppage and release was fairly quick...

... however, this isn't anyone else, it's Rousimar Palhares. He used up all his warnings many fights ago. He was probably warned in the back for an immediate release when it was called for and he probably held it after the fact just to be defiant.

Even with that said, this is Dana White. Lifetime bans are usually measured in the lifetime of a mistreated goldfish.

Haha. There is obviously a lot of truth to this; however, he does seem to be sticking to the Paul Daley ban.

Because Daley earned all of it. Who else has been banned that he reversed course on? Tito was pseudo-banned but he earned his way back in by rehabbing his image and relationship with Dana. Barnett was effectively acquired in the Strikeforce deal(and that was a decade after his title was stripped).