>
> On Feb 17, 2009, at 5:53 AM, Tamas Rudnai wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Alan B. Pearce
> <Alan.B.PearceKILLspamstfc.ac.uk>wrote:
>
>>> "This post is sent as a test .....
>> Just to prove it was not in jest ...
>>
> However, should not read it by the rest...

> >
> > On Feb 17, 2009, at 5:53 AM, Tamas Rudnai wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Alan B. Pearce
> > <EraseMEAlan.B.Pearcespam_OUTTakeThisOuTstfc.ac.uk>wrote:
> >
> >>> "This post is sent as a test .....
> >> Just to prove it was not in jest ...
> > However, should not read it by the rest...
>
> Unless they are insane or a pest
>
But if you want a bullet in your chest,
Just open it and read the text...

>
> On Feb 17, 2009, at 12:42 PM, Tamas Rudnai wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Michael Algernon <picspam_OUTnope9.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> On Feb 17, 2009, at 5:53 AM, Tamas Rudnai wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Alan B. Pearce
>>> <@spam@Alan.B.PearceKILLspamstfc.ac.uk>wrote:
>>>
>>>>> "This post is sent as a test .....
>>>> Just to prove it was not in jest ...
>>> However, should not read it by the rest...
>>
>> Unless they are insane or a pest
>>
> But if you want a bullet in your chest,
> Just open it and read the text...

Maybe in your mail reader. In at least two of the four mail readers I
use regularly, it would be more difficult for me to delete a message
without reading it that it is to "read" AND delete it... (Besides,
if the message is short, I'm not sure I understand how "previewing"
the message is any different than actually reading it...)

Hei... my test has many replies but I don't see my original messages echoed
on the PIClist.
I changed my E-Mail address some days ago and in the Mailman Options the
option "Receive your own posts to the list " is checked, but the problem is
still present...
I Suspect a problem with GMail... any ideas?

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Marco Genovesi <spamBeGonecarroz53spamBeGonegmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hei... my test has many replies but I don't see my original messages echoed
> on the PIClist.
> I changed my E-Mail address some days ago and in the Mailman Options the
> option "Receive your own posts to the list " is checked, but the problem is
> still present...
> I Suspect a problem with GMail... any ideas?
>
> Regards,
> Marco

>
> >>>>> "This post is sent as a test .....
> >>>> Just to prove it was not in jest ...
> >>> However, should not read it by the rest...
> >>
> >> Unless they are insane or a pest
> >>
> > But if you want a bullet in your chest,
> > Just open it and read the text...
>
> Hey ! Reincarnation awaits you next

I haven't any problem to send e-mail to PicList from the web client
(however, it is a little annoying).
CC to myself could be a bypass... BUT the first search doesn't seem
encouraging, maybe Solarwind says right...:

Get a domain with a real email address. For instance, I have a
ubasics.com mail account that is forwarded to gmail. Gmail is set up
to send as though it came from the ubasics account.

Gmail seems to react appropriately if I send a mail to myself, but I
suppose since it's traversing another mailserver it treats it
differently.

Notably, when I send an email to myself using the gmail interface, it
appears in my inbox at gmail instantly - it appears that the forward
happens quickly enough that I don't notice a delay. Which is very
nice, as I send information to myself for storage constantly, and I
like to be able to categorize it right after it's sent...

>
> I haven't any problem to send e-mail to PicList from the web client
> (however, it is a little annoying).
> CC to myself could be a bypass... BUT the first search doesn't seem
> encouraging, maybe Solarwind says right...:
>
> http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=522297&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
>
> ==> ".....Gmail does not send you messages that were sent from that same
> account."
>
> I have tested now that if I send a message to myself from Outlook Express
> (and also cc to me) I don't receive it. But if I open the GMail web client,
> the message is correctly in the Inbox...
>
> Bah!
> Marco
>
>
>
>
>

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Yigit Turgut <EraseMEy.turgutgmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> "This post is sent as a test .....
>> >>>> Just to prove it was not in jest ...
>> >>> However, should not read it by the rest...
>> >>
>> >> Unless they are insane or a pest
>> >>
>> > But if you want a bullet in your chest,
>> > Just open it and read the text...
>>
>> Hey ! Reincarnation awaits you next

> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Yigit Turgut <RemoveMEy.turgutspam_OUTKILLspamgmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>> "This post is sent as a test .....
> >> >>>> Just to prove it was not in jest ...
> >> >>> However, should not read it by the rest...
> >> >>
> >> >> Unless they are insane or a pest
> >> >>
> >> > But if you want a bullet in your chest,
> >> > Just open it and read the text...
> >>
> >> Hey ! Reincarnation awaits you next
>
> Damn I really need some rest -.-
>

Then go back to my nest,
But not the one in the west,
Just lay down and be my guest,
On the top of the Mount Everest.

>> >> >>>>> "This post is sent as a test .....
>> >> >>>> Just to prove it was not in jest ...
>> >> >>> However, should not read it by the rest...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Unless they are insane or a pest
>> >> >>
>> >> > But if you want a bullet in your chest,
>> >> > Just open it and read the text...
>> >>
>> >> Hey ! Reincarnation awaits you next
>>
>> Damn I really need some rest -.-
>>
>
> Then go back to my nest,
> But not the one in the west,
> Just lay down and be my guest,
> On the top of the Mount Everest.
>

> Get a domain with a real email address. For instance, I have a
> ubasics.com mail account that is forwarded to gmail. Gmail is set up
> to send as though it came from the ubasics account.
>

I would like to do this, but my old mail account don't permit this.
I can access via POP3 to the "free" mail only using dedicated number access
(this was ok when I used 64k modem). Now I have an ADSL connection with
another
provider and this isn't permitted: basically, now I can acces to the old
mail only by web interface.
In order to avoid this, the old provider offer a "payment" mail with better
features than the "free" version and that hasn't POP3 access limitations:
but I don't like this...
The solution I thik now is to get a new free mail account from my actual
ADSL provider and to redirect this to GMail.
Sorry for the late reply, I was out of home.

>>> >> >>>>> "This post is sent as a test .....
>>> >> >>>> Just to prove it was not in jest ...
>>> >> >>> However, should not read it by the rest...
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Unless they are insane or a pest
>>> >> >>
>>> >> > But if you want a bullet in your chest,
>>> >> > Just open it and read the text...
>>> >>
>>> >> Hey ! Reincarnation awaits you next
>>>
>>> Damn I really need some rest -.-
>>
>>
>> Then go back to my nest,
>> But not the one in the west,
>> Just lay down and be my guest,
>> On the top of the Mount Everest.
>
>This has gone longer than I would have guessed!

> Well there's your problem. Gmail wont send you a copy of your own
> email if you are using a POP client. Use the web client and you'll
> see it.

I'm using my Gmail account to read the messages (POP), but use a
different SMTP server to send the messages. That way, Gmail doesn't
recognize the messages I send as coming from me (as they don't come from
my "Gmail me").

FWIW, many OSes come with a built-in SMTP server. And for the ones that
don't you probably can find one for free.