Poor dog. He had no idea what was happening. I have no problems with an e-collar being used in a HUMANE manner. That was not it.

I had orange team training last night (the shelter team that deals with problem dogs) and it was with Ginger, my relax class instructor. We were talking about bite levels. She said, "I'm not going to name any names, but there is a certain 'trainer' on TV who seems to take pride in being bitten. That's dumb. If you're good at reading body language there's no need to get bitten often." And she's right.

"Remember - every time your dog gets somewhere on a tight leash *a fairy dies and it's all your fault.* Think of the fairies." http://www.positivepetzine.com"

pitbullmamaliz wrote:Poor dog. He had no idea what was happening. I have no problems with an e-collar being used in a HUMANE manner. That was not it.

That was a re-homing case, if I ever saw one...that dog was a LOT of dog for that clueless owner...imho.

I had orange team training last night (the shelter team that deals with problem dogs) and it was with Ginger, my relax class instructor. We were talking about bite levels. She said, "I'm not going to name any names, but there is a certain 'trainer' on TV who seems to take pride in being bitten. That's dumb. If you're good at reading body language there's no need to get bitten often." And she's right.

EXACTLY.

"I don't have any idea if my dogs respect me or not, but they're greedy and I have their stuff." -- Patty Ruzzo

"Dogs don't want to control people. They want to control their own lives." --John Bradshaw

I had a woman recently contact me about adopting Mama. My fearful dog. My dog, although she has never bitten someone, in the right situation will bite someone. She prided herself on following the techniques of Cesar. For Mama

BigDogBuford wrote: The owner is a twat waffle for letting him do that to her pets.

I don't blame the owner as much as I blame the "expert"... when I used to watch Cesar I was mucho impressed by him myself, not knowing much about the intricate inner workings of dogs.In hindsight, I consider myself extremely fortunate to not ever having followed up on writing to him in regards to Mick.Then again... Cesar might've lost his face (and his show) if he ever tried to alpha-roll, or use an e-collar on, my Beast. That man is going to meet his match some day... and Dog help him.

BigDogBuford wrote:Christine, I thoroughly believe if some dude came in (no matter who he was) and started unfairly shocking the smurf out of Mick and terrorizing your cat, you would have put a stop to it.

Well, yeah... of course.

But some people get so taken in by the hype, and the "fame"... all common sense and decency flies right out the window. I often wonder if people do object to some of his methods, but I'm sure it doesn't make for good TV, and we'd never see it.