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Please vote, I believe this poll will show drivers are mad at Amazon for allowing bots to steal all the driving work. It's like the Amazon delivery mafia!!

Hi all. I've driven commercially for 10 years, tried just about everything. I used to do pretty well with Amazon Flex but not anymore. I can't compete with hackers using bots to get all the work. Why is Amazon allowing this to happen? Now I'm considerring paying $400 a month to get blocks. $400 is the best deal I could find, others were asking $600.

don't count on anything changing, i've been doing Flex for almost a year now and have seen it get consistently worse.

Not only did they merge our warehouse with 5 other warehouses to compete with, they continue to onboard new drivers and using a bot is the only way you can get blocks.

Amazon doesn't want us turning this into a full time job, but do they really think the average person is going to sit for hours fishing for blocks the old fashion way to hopefully get some part time hours?!

Please vote, I believe this poll will show drivers are mad at Amazon for allowing bots to steal all the driving work. It's like the Amazon delivery mafia!!

Hi all. I've driven commercially for 10 years, tried just about everything. I used to do pretty well with Amazon Flex but not anymore. I can't compete with hackers using bots to get all the work. Why is Amazon allowing this to happen? Now I'm considerring paying $400 a month to get blocks. $400 is the best deal I could find, others were asking $600.

Just FYI, the last screenshot where the guy explains how he doesn't use automation tools is the problem in Miami at the moment. The hackers have literally found a way to manually assign the blocks.

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Sure sounds like actual hacking if someone only needs your account information, isn't using automation, and you can be logged in at the same time. Perhaps someone observed a login or put a keystroke logger on an amazon terminal to get a warehouse login.

Either that or someone has access to the system and is getting paid off. That's going to beat any bot system since the blocks will never be made available.

The message seems to say they somehow manually assign them which ensures you get the blocks rather than leave it up to chance.

I've seen them manually assign blocks to drivers at the warehouse, so I know it can be done without dropping it to everyone.

Probably those are x amazon employee or current who have access to Amazon flex accounts ! Sound like is inside job! Amazon should launch an investigation by posing as drivers and tracking the hookers(hackers)

Probably those are x amazon employee or current who have access to Amazon flex accounts ! Sound like is inside job! Amazon should launch an investigation by posing as drivers and tracking the hookers(hackers)

Probably those are x amazon employee or current who have access to Amazon flex accounts ! Sound like is inside job! Amazon should launch an investigation by posing as drivers and tracking the hookers(hackers)

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lol.

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This is exactly what I've been saying all along.

What if Besos decided to stop being such a hypocritical liberal (i.e. an open closet, fanatical capitalist) and show some TLC SJW concern for the peasants making him so filthy rich via Prime Now/Fresh & Prime Logistics? What if he decided Amazon should get of its rear end and do something about this racket? If so, it wouldn't surprise me if they attempted to infiltrate this gig by posing hired 3rd party cyber security personnel as flex drivers. Particularly at the heaviest trafficked WHs like in Miami where this appears to have become an epidemic.

Mentioned this earlier in another thread and got ridiculed for the suggestion. My guess is the most virulently opposed posters are most likely the ppl who're colluding and actively keeping this racket going. lmao.

What city do you drive in? I do logistics and blocks are definitely not plentiful for me.

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Most likely in SF & SF Bay Area because this is one of the cities/national regions where demand always exceeds supply. Especially since Amazon's customers in SF are typically young & single, with highly disposable incomes because of the tech industry and other white collar industries like finance.

SF Amazon customers in particular, are typical Millennals who possess fickle and mercurial online consumer habits. And so typically tend to purchase on whim. I end up delivering anything from 4 lb boxes of toilet paper, to 75 lb bag pet food, to health food, to the latest IT/glam smart phone accessory for their phones/wireless devices. Can't tell you how many times I've delivered to scores of customers living in white collar SF apt slums. Then discover the customers completely forgot they ordered a ton of junk online. And so are completely baffled as to why you're annoying them with their apt buzzer. lol.

I will go with inside job since a place like amazon is usually built like a fortress against unauthorized access gained by hacking tools, be it key loggers or exploits.

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lmao. This explains their diligent oversight in checking primitive hacks like using bots the likes FREP. Amazon simply isn't motivated to do anything about this racket. The money these script app hackers are taking off the top from this racket is literally pennies on the dollar given the billions Amazon makes annually.

Miami has a serious problem with hackers and identity thieves, legit drivers should band and email the higher tiers to conduct an investigation or risk leaking this out to the press.

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Quickest way to do this indirectly and anonymously, would be leaking it to the local news media outlets. The worst of the Amazon WHs like Miami hubs would be crawling with press paparazzi within a day. And Amazon HQ would be losing their E. Coli. Only time would tell if the PR fallout would be enough to push them into doing anything about it. Probably not though. Like Uber, Amazon has grown too big to fail in the PR arena IMO. The services it provides are too invaluable to the consumer.

Amazon Fresh in particular, is huge in a densely populated and health conscious city like SF. The city topography (hilly, steep terrain, overcrowded streets, lack of parking etc) make it unfeasible for the average person to drive their POV to the supermarket. And it's also a generational/cultural/statistical fact that the majority of Millennials DON'T want to own or drive their own POVs. This creates a heavy dependency on Amazon services (This is also why LyfUber is responsible for making up some 130% of the city's traffic volume on a daily basis btw). Same for big cities like NYC and Chicago where Amazon most likely makes its biggest profits. Nope. Amazon services aren't going anywhere anytime soon IMO.

What that guy is offering is to macro for you with his script by giving him account access.

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That's like giving him power of attorney....
If you make the mistake of linking any of your other emails/online personal account info to your amazon account (like through gmail which lets you synchronize ALL your email accounts or FB etc) hackers like this guy could have potential backdoor access to your personal email account as well. I can't believe ppl are dumb enough to be giving out personal Amazon login info. Never underestimate the desperation of a drowning man clutching straws.