toolonglegs wrote:I've been on a vegan diet for 3-4 weeks now... was pretty easy having been a vegie from 1989-2010. Also cut out all coffee. Weight is falling off even though I am eating a lot ( haven't done a diary but easily close to 4K a day ), put it this way I don't go hungry ever, probably need to eat even more as I am losing weight a bit quick. The best part is all cravings are gone. Will stick with it till I head away for the TDF ... being a vegie is hard enough in France, let alone being a vegan ... I expect I will be back as a vegan after July though. It does seem to work for me rather well.Knowing me I will probably have a caffeine hit before races... but the amount will be half of what I used to take I expect, having cut out my 3 or 4 coffees a day.Might do a food diary to know the ratios... but I would think I am sticking roughly to the 80 10 10 ratio.

last time i took a break from coffee the headaches passed fairly quickly but i had probably a full week when i was sleeping 12hrs+ per day, napping every afternoon, extremely lethargic and otherwise pretty much non-functional. pretty horrible stuff. would not recommend.

once i was clean i noted no real benefits so after a month or so i just went back to drinking coffee again...

The coffee was just a habit, I didn't start drinking coffee at all till I lived in France... so the first couple of days weren't that bad. Cutting out the dairy was interesting... I ate way too much cereals which meant quite a lot of milk. If I got hunger cravings I could demolish 2 or 3 big bowls of weetabix or fruitnfibre . Plus French cheese is pretty yummy!.Now it is banana/blueberrie/date smoothies pretty much during the day. Probably 10-12 bananas a day... the smoothies are so yummy you don't get bored with them. If I was single I could probably go the same at night but my wife wouldn't be impressed. But she loves the vegan dahls, curries, chillis and korma's... sometimes with rice. Also big bowls of tomatoes and palm hearts etc.Just wanted to try something different , inspired by Zep and Durian, although not to the extremes that one of them goes .

TBH and I determined to give up coffee for June, which is going well. And alcohol...which isn't going so well. though probably cut it in half. lost 1kg as of this morning. not missing coffee at all...though did have headaches earlier this week.

am making heaps of vege soups with the cooler weather, which is a great way to eat more plants, and lose Cals.

toolonglegs wrote:Just wanted to try something different , inspired by Zep and Durian, although not to the extremes that one of them goes .

Don't blame me for your craziness

Seriously though I feel giving up something you really enjoy does take will power & inner strength.

Another way of looking at it in reverse is visualise the person you want to be & work back to where you are now, then implement the changes required to do so. If you don't know how to implement the changes....read, look, learn, experiment. Determination & focus are fundamental elements in this process.

ZepinAtor wrote: Another way of looking at it in reverse is visualise the person you want to be & work back to where you are now, then implement the changes required to do so. If you don't know how to implement the changes....read, look, learn, experiment. Determination & focus are fundamental elements in this process.

This works for lots of things - because if you keep that vision in mind, defining it, refining it and holding it as a clear compelling vision of what you want to to be, or where you want to end up, or what you want to achieve then every tiny insignificant choice you make will be filtered through the question .... 'Does this get me closer to my goal, or at least put me in a better position from which to move closer to it?'

You may never achieve your ideal, but that doesn't matter as long as you end up closer to it than you started off.

winstonw wrote:TBH and I determined to give up coffee for June, which is going well. And alcohol...which isn't going so well. though probably cut it in half. lost 1kg as of this morning. not missing coffee at all...though did have headaches earlier this week.

am making heaps of vege soups with the cooler weather, which is a great way to eat more plants, and lose Cals.

After too much booze over christmas, I did no alcochol for feb fast, march madness and april (no particular reason)... easy. I tried quitting coffee for a month and didn't make it to the end of the month. Coffee is way harder for me.

toolonglegs wrote:I've been on a vegan diet for 3-4 weeks now... was pretty easy having been a vegie from 1989-2010. Also cut out all coffee. Weight is falling off even though I am eating a lot ( haven't done a diary but easily close to 4K a day ), put it this way I don't go hungry ever, probably need to eat even more as I am losing weight a bit quick. The best part is all cravings are gone. Will stick with it till I head away for the TDF ... being a vegie is hard enough in France, let alone being a vegan ... I expect I will be back as a vegan after July though. It does seem to work for me rather well.Knowing me I will probably have a caffeine hit before races... but the amount will be half of what I used to take I expect, having cut out my 3 or 4 coffees a day.Might do a food diary to know the ratios... but I would think I am sticking roughly to the 80 10 10 ratio.

PS... can you call it a diet when you eat much more than normal ?

Can you post up a few days of your eating TLL Including portion sizes.I knows its a pain and understand if you can be bothered. You should smash a few kom's now

Yeah no worries MM ... I would be interested to see exactly what my intake is anyway. Won't be riding much this week, just short and sweets ... so bit of extra time on my hands ... might get some work done .KOM's ... need to lose another 6 kgs and find some form before I start getting back to where I was last year .