simatic1902 wrote:come to germany and open your eyes ;) you will search for a long time to find a facist......

Wouldn't take that long in Italy... (Look at Berlusconi and his ties with the Benetton family et al...)

(it's strange, really strange... I rather LIKE Italy...)

Missed the point. Fascism is WAY different than Racism or Genocidism.

Had Picklegrubber, er, Schickelgruber and his fellow egomaniac nutfucks not been sucked into the whole racist crapstain they were addicted to, the view on Germany during that era would be MUCH different. He and his fellow Idiot Psychos, had they not been genocidaly racist idiot fucks, wouldn't have lost his best and brightest - the physicists who came here and made OUR Military-Industrial complex strong woulda stayed there.

Fascism per-se is a combination of Socialism, Industrialism, and Government under a central ruler (eg Dictator) - think Communist Absolutism mixed with Capitalism. What fucks it up is the single powerful leader thing - absolute power absolutely corrupts... absolutely. Fact among the human animal.

Anyway, not saying the idiot who took his and his cronies psychosis to superpower status were good - they were worthless fucks who destroyed their country and a lot of those around them, and through their ilk killed tens of millions of innocents, destabilized central and eastern Europe - but the system works until the corruption and sickness of the absolute power dictatorship happens.

Back to Italy? It was a 3rd world country, people starving, no GNP to speak of, no infrastructure to speak of, not much of anything before the 1920's. Il Duce came to power... in the 20's... turned his country around. Trains ran on time, factories started producing, people were working, the Lira was worth something, and they even had a postal system that wasn't 2/3 as reliable as a note in a bottle...

His idea worked so well that Snotler rode Musso's coattails, trying to recover Germany from Versailles 1918, and his piss-poor attitude and blame other people shit drew nutcases to his side... and of course, if you hang around with people with fleas, don't be surprised if you start to itch, too.

It's a dead system. Dead of the evil shit that came, not as a result of the system, but the people who were in charge of it. Like a meth-head, they fucked themselves.

Just remember - if Hitler were not a schitzoid f'd in the brain psycho who attracted other power hungry f'd in the brains psychos, had he and his bunghole cabinet not been genocidal fucks who didn't value human life or his own people, that whole era in Germany would be remembered... not as the biggest shitstain in all humanity, but as a success. Scary, huh? Because the German people are hard working, deedicated sonsabitches, and once they get their mind locked around something and get dedicated to it there's little that will stop them. Ask Kaiser Vilhelm, Or any of the dictators who ran the world in the 30's and 40's.

simatic1902 wrote:come to germany and open your eyes ;) you will search for a long time to find a facist......

Wouldn't take that long in Italy... (Look at Berlusconi and his ties with the Benetton family et al...)

(it's strange, really strange... I rather LIKE Italy...)

Missed the point. Fascism is WAY different than Racism or Genocidism.

Had Picklegrubber, er, Schickelgruber and his fellow egomaniac nutfucks not been sucked into the whole racist crapstain they were addicted to, the view on Germany during that era would be MUCH different. He and his fellow Idiot Psychos, had they not been genocidaly racist idiot fucks, wouldn't have lost his best and brightest - the physicists who came here and made OUR Military-Industrial complex strong woulda stayed there.

Fascism per-se is a combination of Socialism, Industrialism, and Government under a central ruler (eg Dictator) - think Communist Absolutism mixed with Capitalism. What fucks it up is the single powerful leader thing - absolute power absolutely corrupts... absolutely. Fact among the human animal.

Anyway, not saying the idiot who took his and his cronies psychosis to superpower status were good - they were worthless fucks who destroyed their country and a lot of those around them, and through their ilk killed tens of millions of innocents, destabilized central and eastern Europe - but the system works until the corruption and sickness of the absolute power dictatorship happens.

Back to Italy? It was a 3rd world country, people starving, no GNP to speak of, no infrastructure to speak of, not much of anything before the 1920's. Il Duce came to power... in the 20's... turned his country around. Trains ran on time, factories started producing, people were working, the Lira was worth something, and they even had a postal system that wasn't 2/3 as reliable as a note in a bottle...

His idea worked so well that Snotler rode Musso's coattails, trying to recover Germany from Versailles 1918, and his piss-poor attitude and blame other people shit drew nutcases to his side... and of course, if you hang around with people with fleas, don't be surprised if you start to itch, too.

It's a dead system. Dead of the evil shit that came, not as a result of the system, but the people who were in charge of it. Like a meth-head, they fucked themselves.

Just remember - if Hitler were not a schitzoid f'd in the brain psycho who attracted other power hungry f'd in the brains psychos, had he and his bunghole cabinet not been genocidal fucks who didn't value human life or his own people, that whole era in Germany would be remembered... not as the biggest shitstain in all humanity, but as a success. Scary, huh? Because the German people are hard working, deedicated sonsabitches, and once they get their mind locked around something and get dedicated to it there's little that will stop them. Ask Kaiser Vilhelm, Or any of the dictators who ran the world in the 30's and 40's.

'Nufsed,

When the Russians invaded Germany, non-Nazis claimed. "Anti-Fascist." I think it was a general term.

simatic1902 wrote:come to germany and open your eyes ;) you will search for a long time to find a facist......

Wouldn't take that long in Italy... (Look at Berlusconi and his ties with the Benetton family et al...)

(it's strange, really strange... I rather LIKE Italy...)

Missed the point. Fascism is WAY different than Racism or Genocidism.

Had Picklegrubber, er, Schickelgruber and his fellow egomaniac nutfucks not been sucked into the whole racist crapstain they were addicted to, the view on Germany during that era would be MUCH different. He and his fellow Idiot Psychos, had they not been genocidaly racist idiot fucks, wouldn't have lost his best and brightest - the physicists who came here and made OUR Military-Industrial complex strong woulda stayed there.

Fascism per-se is a combination of Socialism, Industrialism, and Government under a central ruler (eg Dictator) - think Communist Absolutism mixed with Capitalism. What fucks it up is the single powerful leader thing - absolute power absolutely corrupts... absolutely. Fact among the human animal.

Anyway, not saying the idiot who took his and his cronies psychosis to superpower status were good - they were worthless fucks who destroyed their country and a lot of those around them, and through their ilk killed tens of millions of innocents, destabilized central and eastern Europe - but the system works until the corruption and sickness of the absolute power dictatorship happens.

Back to Italy? It was a 3rd world country, people starving, no GNP to speak of, no infrastructure to speak of, not much of anything before the 1920's. Il Duce came to power... in the 20's... turned his country around. Trains ran on time, factories started producing, people were working, the Lira was worth something, and they even had a postal system that wasn't 2/3 as reliable as a note in a bottle...

His idea worked so well that Snotler rode Musso's coattails, trying to recover Germany from Versailles 1918, and his piss-poor attitude and blame other people shit drew nutcases to his side... and of course, if you hang around with people with fleas, don't be surprised if you start to itch, too.

It's a dead system. Dead of the evil shit that came, not as a result of the system, but the people who were in charge of it. Like a meth-head, they fucked themselves.

Just remember - if Hitler were not a schitzoid f'd in the brain psycho who attracted other power hungry f'd in the brains psychos, had he and his bunghole cabinet not been genocidal fucks who didn't value human life or his own people, that whole era in Germany would be remembered... not as the biggest shitstain in all humanity, but as a success. Scary, huh? Because the German people are hard working, deedicated sonsabitches, and once they get their mind locked around something and get dedicated to it there's little that will stop them. Ask Kaiser Vilhelm, Or any of the dictators who ran the world in the 30's and 40's.

simatic1902 wrote:come to germany and open your eyes ;) you will search for a long time to find a facist......

Had Picklegrubber, er, Schickelgruber and his fellow egomaniac nutfucks not been sucked into the whole racist crapstain they were addicted to, the view on Germany during that era would be MUCH different. He and his fellow Idiot Psychos, had they not been genocidaly racist idiot fucks, wouldn't have lost his best and brightest - the physicists who came here and made OUR Military-Industrial complex strong woulda stayed there.

I represent brain drain. Of course, we're draining our brains by not educating them, so the Germans may have the last laugh.

The Lady with a Lamprey

"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri

ygmir wrote:if not for the Germans, what would we think of the French? and, who would they surrender to?

I was going to say that this poll is rigged. Surely most burners don't want any Germs hanging around their camps. Then I read your comment, which makes a lot of sense. :twisted:

Germans can hang out at my camp antime! Met a german girl at the burnal equinox... and she changed my life, just as much as BM....in a good way! We should focus on the french! Sooner or later, they're gonna stop surrendering.

ygmir wrote:if not for the Germans, what would we think of the French? and, who would they surrender to?

I was going to say that this poll is rigged. Surely most burners don't want any Germs hanging around their camps. Then I read your comment, which makes a lot of sense.

Germans can hang out at my camp antime! Met a german girl at the burnal equinox... and she changed my life, just as much as BM....in a good way! We should focus on the french! Sooner or later, they're gonna stop surrendering.

ygmir wrote:if not for the Germans, what would we think of the French? and, who would they surrender to?

I was going to say that this poll is rigged. Surely most burners don't want any Germs hanging around their camps. Then I read your comment, which makes a lot of sense. :twisted:

Germans can hang out at my camp antime! Met a german girl at the burnal equinox... and she changed my life, just as much as BM....in a good way! We should focus on the french! Sooner or later, they're gonna stop surrendering.

nuhhhhh uhhhhhh............

Until the Prussians took down the French in the 1870s, the French were the people to beat. And they didn't give up much ground in the Great War. We may be living in a statistical blip; the french may yet regain the "most beligerent" of western europe title.

The Lady with a Lamprey

"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri

ygmir wrote:if not for the Germans, what would we think of the French? and, who would they surrender to?

I was going to say that this poll is rigged. Surely most burners don't want any Germs hanging around their camps. Then I read your comment, which makes a lot of sense.

Germans can hang out at my camp antime! Met a german girl at the burnal equinox... and she changed my life, just as much as BM....in a good way! We should focus on the french! Sooner or later, they're gonna stop surrendering.

nuhhhhh uhhhhhh............

Until the Prussians took down the French in the 1870s, the French were the people to beat. And they didn't give up much ground in the Great War. We may be living in a statistical blip; the french may yet regain the "most beligerent" of western europe title.

oh, I'm with ya there.......the French ruled, at one point........much proud history (if you take pride in that stuff).
Certainly, they could one day add "Most belligerent" to their title of "most self absorbed, narcissistic and unwarrantedly egotistical".........

ygmir wrote:if not for the Germans, what would we think of the French? and, who would they surrender to?

I was going to say that this poll is rigged. Surely most burners don't want any Germs hanging around their camps. Then I read your comment, which makes a lot of sense. :twisted:

Germans can hang out at my camp antime! Met a german girl at the burnal equinox... and she changed my life, just as much as BM....in a good way! We should focus on the french! Sooner or later, they're gonna stop surrendering.

nuhhhhh uhhhhhh............

Until the Prussians took down the French in the 1870s, the French were the people to beat. And they didn't give up much ground in the Great War. We may be living in a statistical blip; the french may yet regain the "most beligerent" of western europe title.

oh, I'm with ya there.......the French ruled, at one point........much proud history (if you take pride in that stuff).Certainly, they could one day add "Most belligerent" to their title of "most self absorbed, narcissistic and unwarrantedly egotistical".........

Well no-one's come near to Italy's domination of "Most Governments since WWII (Bonus Points for Each One Headed by Burlesconi)".

The Lady with a Lamprey

"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri

ygmir wrote:if not for the Germans, what would we think of the French? and, who would they surrender to?

I was going to say that this poll is rigged. Surely most burners don't want any Germs hanging around their camps. Then I read your comment, which makes a lot of sense.

Germans can hang out at my camp antime! Met a german girl at the burnal equinox... and she changed my life, just as much as BM....in a good way! We should focus on the french! Sooner or later, they're gonna stop surrendering.

nuhhhhh uhhhhhh............

Until the Prussians took down the French in the 1870s, the French were the people to beat. And they didn't give up much ground in the Great War. We may be living in a statistical blip; the french may yet regain the "most beligerent" of western europe title.

oh, I'm with ya there.......the French ruled, at one point........much proud history (if you take pride in that stuff).Certainly, they could one day add "Most belligerent" to their title of "most self absorbed, narcissistic and unwarrantedly egotistical".........

Well no-one's come near to Italy's domination of "Most Governments since WWII (Bonus Points for Each One Headed by Burlesconi)".

interesting.....good call.
I'd wonder if some of those african and south american countries, with all their coups and assassinations and such could lay a claim there?