#raspberrypi IRC Log

IRC Log for 2012-12-16

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[0:01]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) Quit (Quit: piers12345)[0:01]* Weaselweb (~quassel@77-64-181-50.dynamic.primacom.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[0:01]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[0:01]* PiBot sets mode +v piers12345[0:02]<kurtis_> gordonDrogon: yea, this isn't a TV, just a monitor[0:03]<kurtis_> gordonDrogon: it's a pretty simple setup, so I would've thought raspbian would pick it up right away[0:03]* phaleon (~phaleon@unaffiliated/phaleon) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[0:03]<kurtis_> wow, I have no idea what to do here[0:04]<gordonDrogon> you'd think it would be simple... the reality is that it doesn't appear to be )-:[0:04]<gordonDrogon> so firstly, try turning off overscan.[0:04]<gordonDrogon> that night just do the trivk.[0:05]<kurtis_> gordonDrogon: ok[0:05]<kurtis_> turn of overscan and reboot?[0:06]<frikinz> http://teebee.n0n3m.com:666 << my pi uptime[0:07]<frikinz> (load everage)[0:08]* Linovia (~textual@put92-4-82-231-49-9.fbx.proxad.net) Quit (Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"])[0:10]<kurtis_> gordonDrogon: cool, disabling overscan gives me the full 1080p[0:10]<kurtis_> gordonDrogon: I still can't access monitor preferences, but this is certainly a step in the right direction I suppsoed[0:10]<kurtis_> *suposse[0:11]<gordonDrogon> yes.[0:11]* markbook (~markllama@pool-74-104-180-140.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[0:11]<gordonDrogon> although I've no idea what you mean by monitor preferences though.[0:13]<gordonDrogon> I'm guessing some tool running under X?[0:13]<gordonDrogon> in which case to my knowledge, there is nothing to change. it either works or doesn't...[0:13]<kurtis_> gordonDrogon: lxde menu -> preferences -> monitor preferences[0:14]<gordonDrogon> don't use lxde, but there is nothing to change.[0:14]<gordonDrogon> s/^/I /[0:14]* akiwiguy|away is now known as akiwiguy[0:14]<kurtis_> gordonDrogon: huh?[0:14]<scummos> lxrandr is nice, it's ver minimalistic and usually does what you want[0:15]<scummos> *very[0:15]<kurtis_> what is lxrandr?[0:15]<kurtis_> scummos: nvm, I'll google it[0:15]<scummos> probably the same util you mentioned[0:15]<scummos> just from CLI ;[0:15]<scummos> ;p[0:16]* elyob (~textual@host86-136-175-106.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) has joined #raspberrypi[0:16]* PiBot sets mode +v elyob[0:17]<kurtis_> scummos: you're right, it appears to be the same thing I'm trying to run[0:17]<kurtis_> lxrandr is saying that it is unable to get my monitor information[0:17]<kurtis_> scummos: any idea how to fix that?[0:18]<scummos> uh what was your problem again, exactly?[0:18]<scummos> can you run "xrandr" in command line?[0:18]<scummos> what does it say[0:19]<kurtis_> lol, it says xrandr can't be round[0:19]<kurtis_> *found[0:19]<scummos> what[0:19]<scummos> ok, install it ;)[0:19]<scummos> that's probably also the reason for lxrandr not working[0:20]<kurtis_> alright, I'm installing it[0:20]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[0:20]<kurtis_> scummos: that's kind of funny, should lxrandr have a dependency on xrandr?[0:20]<scummos> probably[0:21]<scummos> not sure[0:21]* kurtis_ goes to figure out if there's a dependency that isn't expressed[0:22]* tinti_ (~tinti@maxtrack-F4-0-3-gacc04.bhe.embratel.net.br) has joined #raspberrypi[0:22]* PiBot sets mode +v tinti_[0:22]* bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[0:22]* hnsr (~hnsr@5ED31161.cm-7-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) Quit (Read error: Operation timed out)[0:24]<kurtis_> scummos: ha, so lxrandr doesn't depend on x11-server-utils (the package that supplies xrandr), but as soon as I install x11-server-utils, everything works[0:24]<kurtis_> I smell an unlisted dependency[0:24]<kurtis_> scummos: can I report this issue somewhere useful?[0:25]<frikinz> Its the same as on debian[0:25]<kurtis_> frikinz: so report the dependency issue on to the debian people?[0:25]<plugwash> if the bug exists in debian please report it to them[0:25]* hnsr (~hnsr@5ED31161.cm-7-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #raspberrypi[0:25]* PiBot sets mode +v hnsr[0:25]* marl_scot1 (~matt@cpc1-dumb5-2-0-cust86.20-3.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[0:25]* PiBot sets mode +v marl_scot1[0:25]<kurtis_> plugwash: cool, I know a debian dev, I'll give him a shout[0:26]<marl_scot1> hi folks, could someone please tell me what to write and where to set the pull up/down resistors on the GPIO? thanks[0:27]* halfhalo (halfhalo@nasadmin/webteam/halfhalo) Quit (Excess Flood)[0:28]* halfhalo (halfhalo@nasadmin/webteam/halfhalo) has joined #raspberrypi[0:28]* PiBot sets mode +v halfhalo[0:28]<marl_scot1> i need to set the pull down resistor on one of my gpio ports to avoid interferance.[0:28]* lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk[0:28]<frikinz> kurtis_: lxrandr is not supposed to depend on xrandr, as the doc says, it is a GUI replacement of xrandr[0:29]<scummos> kurtis_: yes, sounds wrong. maybe you can report it to debian[0:29]<scummos> if it exists in debian[0:29]<scummos> that would be the best way[0:30]<frikinz> "It's a utility for grandma,not for geeks. If you need the full power of RandR, get xrandr (console)"[0:30]* Joeboy (~joe@tubbs.trition.org.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[0:30]* PiBot sets mode +v Joeboy[0:30]<kurtis_> frikinz: all I'm saying is that lxrandr didn't work, then I install x11-server-utils, and it worked[0:30]<scummos> kurtis_: it's a bug probably[0:30]<frikinz> yes, all I say is that is should not depend on xrandr[0:31]* bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@0.Red-193-152-190.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[0:31]* peetaur2 (~peter@hmbg-5f762925.pool.mediaWays.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[0:31]* bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@115.Red-88-27-90.staticIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #raspberrypi[0:31]* PiBot sets mode +v bizarro_1[0:32]<scummos> frikinz: it requires xrandr to work, so it should depend on xrandr?[0:32]<scummos> everything else makes no sense[0:33]<frikinz> scummos: no it doesn't require xrandr[0:34]* peetaur2 (~peter@hmbg-5f762925.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #raspberrypi[0:34]* PiBot sets mode +v peetaur2[0:34]<kurtis_> frikinz: lxrandr doesn't work with out x11-server-utils, whether or not x11-server-utils includes xrandr is irrelevant[0:34]<frikinz> (from what its doc says) . I'm not saying there's no bug but not a dependency bug. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=566163[0:35]<JohnRambozo> Whats the easiest way to check if overclock settings are working?[0:35]<scummos> frikinz: well, alright.[0:36]<JohnRambozo> I did "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq"[0:36]<JohnRambozo> but I just get 500000[0:37]* Cykey (~textual@modemcable119.94-162-184.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi[0:37]* PiBot sets mode +v Cykey[0:37]* kamicane (~kamicane@c80-216-44-72.bredband.comhem.se) Quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[0:37]<frikinz> echo performance > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor[0:38]* wiiguy (~fake@unaffiliated/wiiguy) Quit (Quit: I just broke my connection, but no worries, we can rebuild it. We have the technology.)[0:38]<JohnRambozo> i'll try that. thanks.[0:41]<frikinz> JohnRambozo: by default on raspbian, there's an initscript that will switch your kernel to use the "ondemand" governor (unless you hit shift key while booting): it throttles only to maxfreq when needed. with this command, you are always at maxfreq. this is not permanent[0:43]<gordonDrogon> marl_scot1, have you looked at wiringPi?[0:45]* kurtis_ (u7213@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aygipydjrtiexbjt) has left #raspberrypi[0:47]* bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@115.Red-88-27-90.staticIP.rima-tde.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[0:49]* mchou (~quassel@unaffiliated/mchou) has joined #raspberrypi[0:49]* PiBot sets mode +v mchou[0:51]* bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@80.30.236.48) has joined #raspberrypi[0:51]* PiBot sets mode +v bizarro_1[0:53]* Eliatrope (~speckius@melforce.xtsubasa.org) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[0:55]* bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@80.30.236.48) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[0:56]* m8 (~mor@unaffiliated/m8) Quit (Quit: Sto andando via)[0:56]* bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@80.30.236.48) has joined #raspberrypi[0:56]* PiBot sets mode +v bizarro_1[0:58]* yinkum (~yinkum@72.135.30.188) Quit (Quit: yinkum)[0:59]* emilepetrone (~emilepetr@c-24-22-29-165.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[1:00]* Syliss (~Home@adsl-108-82-200-247.dsl.chi2ca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi[1:00]* PiBot sets mode +v Syliss[1:01]* tinti_ (~tinti@maxtrack-F4-0-3-gacc04.bhe.embratel.net.br) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[1:02]* home (~home@unaffiliated/home) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[1:02]* Empty_One (~empty@CPE-72-131-74-201.wi.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Lost terminal)[1:04]* kamicane (~kamicane@c80-216-44-72.bredband.comhem.se) has joined #raspberrypi[1:04]* PiBot sets mode +v kamicane[1:05]* Syliss (~Home@adsl-108-82-200-247.dsl.chi2ca.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Client Quit)[1:06]* thomashunter (~thomashun@c-67-167-132-241.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[1:06]* PiBot sets mode +v thomashunter[1:15]* peetaur2 (~peter@hmbg-5f762925.pool.mediaWays.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[1:15]* oldtopman (~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman) has joined #raspberrypi[1:15]* PiBot sets mode +v oldtopman[1:17]* luigy (~luigy@pool-108-50-173-45.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[1:18]* AeroNotix (~xeno@aazw179.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) has joined #raspberrypi[1:18]* PiBot sets mode +v AeroNotix[1:21]<marl_scot1> gordonDrogon, im writing data directly to the /sys system rather than using any of the libs[1:22]* dividedbyzer0 (47ebd20b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.235.210.11) has joined #raspberrypi[1:22]* PiBot sets mode +v dividedbyzer0[1:23]* Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky[1:29]* sphenxes (~sphenxes@91-119-193-41.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[1:31]* chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[1:31]* adb (~IonMoldom@178-211-235-11.dhcp.voenergies.net) has left #raspberrypi[1:31]* thomashunter (~thomashun@c-67-167-132-241.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: thomashunter)[1:31]* adb (~IonMoldom@178-211-235-11.dhcp.voenergies.net) has joined #raspberrypi[1:31]* PiBot sets mode +v adb[1:31]* Nik05 (~Nik05@unaffiliated/nik05) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[1:33]* Nik05 (~Nik05@unaffiliated/nik05) has joined #raspberrypi[1:33]* PiBot sets mode +v Nik05[1:33]<megaproxy> anyone know where i should put the http files for pancake?[1:33]* Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk[1:34]<marl_scot1> in a frying pan?[1:34]* dividedbyzer0 (47ebd20b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.235.210.11) Quit (Quit: Page closed)[1:40]* Geniack (~Geniack@p54854B2E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Disconnected by services)[1:40]<JohnRambozo> tafb is the resident pancake expert.[1:40]<JohnRambozo> sorry, megaproxy.[1:42]<pksato> pancake?[1:42]<Nik05> yes pancake :P[1:42]<megaproxy> i found it :D[1:42]<Nik05> and if you want real pancakes ask me[1:42]* lars_t_h (~lars_t_h@002129172061.mbb.telenor.dk) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[1:43]<megaproxy> /usr/local/Pnacake/vhost/default[1:43]<megaproxy> http://bedserv.com/index.php[1:44]* alexBr (~alex@dslb-094-221-156-077.pools.arcor-ip.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[1:45]* bacilla (~karolis@unaffiliated/velkam) Quit (Read error: Operation timed out)[1:45]* kamicane (~kamicane@c80-216-44-72.bredband.comhem.se) Quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[1:47]* bacilla (~karolis@unaffiliated/velkam) has joined #raspberrypi[1:47]* PiBot sets mode +v bacilla[1:49]<frikinz> http://teebee.n0n3m.com:666 # My turn. Without a webserver :)[1:50]* oldtopman (~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[1:52]* kamicane (~kamicane@c80-216-44-72.bredband.comhem.se) has joined #raspberrypi[1:52]* PiBot sets mode +v kamicane[1:53]* AeroNotix (~xeno@aazw179.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) Quit (Quit: Uploading hax.....)[1:54]* kamicane (~kamicane@c80-216-44-72.bredband.comhem.se) Quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[1:59]* Nickinator (~user@14-201-136-222.static.tpgi.com.au) has joined #raspberrypi[1:59]* PiBot sets mode +v Nickinator[2:00]* Phosphate (~james@c-71-224-156-93.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[2:02]<cuzzo> Is there a way to get omxplayer to play one video right after the next without re-launching omxplayer to play each video?[2:02]* oldtopman (~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman) has joined #raspberrypi[2:02]* PiBot sets mode +v oldtopman[2:03]<scummos> frikinz: let's see if we can get your load average up a bit[2:04]* Nickinator (~user@14-201-136-222.static.tpgi.com.au) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[2:04]<ParkerR_> cuzzo, Tried omxplayer -o hdmi *[2:04]<ParkerR_> ?[2:04]<frikinz> scummos: yes![2:04]<scummos> ;))[2:04]<frikinz> :)[2:04]<cuzzo> ParkerR_, I haven't >.< I'll try that, thanks![2:04]<frikinz> well, aptitude does it easily too[2:06]<scummos> I had to stop it before it filled all my memory[2:07]<scummos> but apparently the webserver thingy is not very CPU hungy ;)[2:07]<frikinz> scummos: oh ok :([2:07]<frikinz> scummos: no, not hungry as there's not webserver, its a perl script[2:07]<scummos> which is, basically, a web server in this case ;)[2:07]<scummos> by definition of "web server", no?[2:08]<frikinz> yes it's serving page indeed :)[2:08]<frikinz> i wish I didn't suck also at html[2:09]<scummos> oh, it sends Bad Request replies[2:09]<scummos> nice ;)[2:10]<frikinz> does it? I'm looking on the lan. you mean NOW?[2:10]<scummos> I just sent two bad requests and got a 400 in reply, with HTML[2:10]* Essobi (~Essobi@74-129-152-186.dhcp.insightbb.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[2:11]<scummos> http://pastie.org/pastes/5537248/text[2:11]* bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@80.30.236.48) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[2:11]* bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@80.30.236.48) has joined #raspberrypi[2:11]* PiBot sets mode +v bizarro_1[2:12]<ParkerR_> cuzzo, Working?[2:12]* Essobi (~Essobi@74-129-152-186.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #raspberrypi[2:12]* PiBot sets mode +v Essobi[2:12]<frikinz> scummos: and? what should it do for a .. LOL :)[2:12]<scummos> no, it's behaving alright[2:12]<scummos> I was just giving it a thumbs up for doing so[2:12]<scummos> it could also have... crashed[2:13]<cuzzo> ParkerR_, no /= but, I think it will >.<[2:13]* bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@80.30.236.48) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[2:13]* tripleXXX (~bizarro_1@80.30.236.48) has joined #raspberrypi[2:13]* PiBot sets mode +v tripleXXX[2:13]* emilepetrone (~emilepetr@c-24-22-29-165.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[2:13]* PiBot sets mode +v emilepetrone[2:13]<frikinz> scummos: perl crashing? good luck! :) also this framework is one of the 5 most know (and I guess tested) web framework[2:14]<scummos> ah, it's a web framework. ok. I tought you had screwed something together with sockets and ports.[2:14]* SgrA (~sgra@unaffiliated/sgra) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[2:14]<frikinz> but I'm having issues doing two charts on the same page..[2:14]* emilepetrone (~emilepetr@c-24-22-29-165.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has left #raspberrypi[2:15]<frikinz> scummos: no :) Not even a while() netcat for ajax[2:15]<scummos> nah, I thought it was some socket construction, and I tried to crash that ;p[2:15]<JohnRambozo> frikinz: thanks for that performance setting tip.[2:16]<JohnRambozo> clocking a solid 1ghz[2:16]<frikinz> scummos: yes, I got it. as I said, I could have done a while loop with netcat sending for the ajax part also :)[2:16]<scummos> if you're looking for the least elegant solution to solve that problem... probably yes :D[2:17]* luigy (~luigy@pool-108-50-173-45.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #raspberrypi[2:17]* PiBot sets mode +v luigy[2:17]<frikinz> JohnRambozo: well, its just that now your kernel constantly sets the frequency to its max. ondemand is probably wiser: only put highfreq WHEN needed[2:17]<frikinz> JohnRambozo: anyway, after a reboot, you'll be back to ondemand :)[2:17]<JohnRambozo> heh.[2:17]<frikinz> scummos: reminds me of someone doing a webserver in awk[2:17]* Mr_P (~gerhard@chello080108255018.3.14.vie.surfer.at) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[2:18]<JohnRambozo> frikinz: it serves the purpose of maxing out the cpu to test the setting. so thanks.[2:18]<frikinz> JohnRambozo: yes. there's also several other files in the same directory like minfreq and maxfreq. have a look[2:18]<cuzzo> ParkerR_, I should just list the videos one after another right? Or is there a special syntax?[2:18]<scummos> frikinz: friend of mine wrote a physics engine in awk[2:18]* Alfihar (~Yuuka@siberios.co.uk) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[2:18]<scummos> frikinz: (don't ask)[2:19]<ParkerR_> cuzzo, In the folder with multiple videos run "omxplayer -o hdmi *"[2:19]<ParkerR_> Ohh[2:19]<ParkerR_> I just saw your no response[2:19]<cuzzo> ParkerR_, that doesn't do anything for me /=[2:19]<frikinz> scummos: fun! I like these stupid things. long time ago I was doing 4K asm contest, stuff like this[2:19]<scummos> heh[2:20]<scummos> I have never written more than few lines of ASM[2:20]<frikinz> but a physics engine in awk is hardcore :)[2:20]<scummos> I'm still hoping to get around it[2:20]<scummos> (by C compilers being available everywhere)[2:20]* kkimlabs (~kkimlabs@ip-64-134-66-240.public.wayport.net) has joined #raspberrypi[2:20]* PiBot sets mode +v kkimlabs[2:20]<scummos> I mean, I know how it works, but I'm just too lazy to really do it[2:20]* kkimlabs (~kkimlabs@ip-64-134-66-240.public.wayport.net) Quit (Client Quit)[2:20]* MichaelC is now known as MichaelC|Sleep[2:21]<scummos> I once wrote a few brainfuck programs multiplying numbers given by stdin, that's enough "low-level" for a few years[2:21]<frikinz> it is not really usefull. I've done an image editor in asm (directly writing in video memory) lol[2:21]* RaycisCharles (RaycisChar@cpc20-lutn10-2-0-cust20.9-3.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit ()[2:21]<scummos> lol[2:21]<scummos> yeah, I'd rather learn more GLSL then[2:21]<scummos> much more fun probably[2:21]<ParkerR_> cuzzo, Umm http://www.insideelectronics.co.uk/omxplayer-series-play/[2:21]* Phosphate (~james@c-71-224-156-93.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[2:21]* PiBot sets mode +v Phosphate[2:22]<frikinz> and several viruses, and a logic bomb to not attend my school exam. worked great but they had a spare room full of clean computers :([2:22]<ParkerR_> As sudo[2:22]<ParkerR_> "wget -O /usr/bin/playseries http://www.insideelectronics.co.uk/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=1 && chmod +x /usr/bin/playseries"[2:22]<scummos> frikinz: too bad. :([2:22]<cuzzo> ParkerR_, I've seen this. That just relaunches omxplayer.[2:22]<ParkerR_> cuzzo, But does it play the next video?[2:23]<cuzzo> ParkerR_, yeah, that's not the problem. I was wondering if I can do it /without/ relaunching omxplayer.[2:23]<frikinz> scummos: I worked 3 months everyday to do this logic bomb. but had greeaat fun after this. till I had to redo my year..[2:24]<ParkerR_> cuzzo, Is it really that big of a deal? It plays the next file. I see what you are getting at but at least it works[2:24]<scummos> hahaha[2:24]<scummos> frikinz: hmm, why didn't you just like, use the standard approach? : () { : & : }[2:25]<cuzzo> ParkerR_, yes, it is. I'm making a message display system. It can't pause like that.[2:25]* scummos^ (~sven@p57B19D1B.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #raspberrypi[2:25]* PiBot sets mode +v scummos^[2:25]<scummos^> whops[2:25]<frikinz> scummos: the disks were encrypted! the day of the exam when everybody switched on the computers, it was hard to not laugh. I think like 50 computers were infected.[2:25]<scummos^> this is my router telling me I should go sleep[2:26]<scummos^> haha okay[2:26]<ParkerR_> cuzzo, How longs does it take to relaunch?[2:26]<ParkerR_> *long[2:26]<scummos^> how was that implemented, then?[2:27]* SgrA (~sgra@unaffiliated/sgra) has joined #raspberrypi[2:27]* PiBot sets mode +v SgrA[2:27]<frikinz> scummos^: it was a device driver .SYS (good old time with .COM files). we analysed each opcode to find a breach[2:27]* Opinie (~jay@pc-184-130.cable.aina.net) has joined #raspberrypi[2:27]* PiBot sets mode +v Opinie[2:27]<frikinz> scummos^: then we came one day with a 3.5 disk, we would insert the disk, start pc, bomb uploaded, switch off, next pc,etc.. programmed for a few days later[2:28]<frikinz> scummos^: all this because someone challenged us...[2:28]<scummos^> haha :D[2:28]<scummos^> sounds like fun[2:28]<scummos^> at our school that would have been easy... there was like no protection at all[2:28]<frikinz> scummos^: yes good fun[2:28]<scummos^> except the home directories being cleared on reboot[2:28]* scummos (~sven@p57B1A871.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[2:30]* Hoerie (~Hoerie@ip24-182-173-82.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) Quit (Read error: Operation timed out)[2:30]<cuzzo> ParkerR_, only about 1.5 seconds. But, it doesn't matter how short it is. The videos /have/ to be seamless.[2:30]* Nickinator (~user@14-201-136-222.static.tpgi.com.au) has joined #raspberrypi[2:30]* PiBot sets mode +v Nickinator[2:30]* Hoerie (~Hoerie@ip24-182-173-82.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) has joined #raspberrypi[2:30]* PiBot sets mode +v Hoerie[2:31]<frikinz> scummos^: your router is right, I have to go to bed too[2:31]<scummos^> yeah, me too.[2:32]<scummos^> see you![2:32]<frikinz> bye! :)[2:32]<scummos^> bye ;)[2:32]* scummos^ (~sven@p57B19D1B.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[2:33]* Nickinator (~user@14-201-136-222.static.tpgi.com.au) Quit (Client Quit)[2:38]* geordie (~geordie@96.49.144.92) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[2:42]* oldtopman (~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman) Quit (Quit: *pouf*)[2:48]* dreamon_ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) has joined #raspberrypi[2:48]* PiBot sets mode +v dreamon_[2:50]* Xark (~chatzilla@cpe-50-113-123-229.san.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi[2:50]* PiBot sets mode +v Xark[2:50]* Cembo (~hardcoreB@unaffiliated/cembo) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[2:52]* dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[2:54]* Opinie (~jay@pc-184-130.cable.aina.net) Quit (Quit: Lost terminal)[2:59]* TAFB_away is now known as TAFB[2:59]* TAFB is back baby! And in tact :)[2:59]* elyob (~textual@host86-136-175-106.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[3:03]* Phosphate (~james@c-71-224-156-93.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[3:09]* worksgd (~worksgd@75.76.248.98) has joined #raspberrypi[3:09]* PiBot sets mode +v worksgd[3:12]* captbaritone (~captbarit@76.14.88.211) Quit (Quit: Lost terminal)[3:24]* Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky[3:24]<TAFB> hey Leeky :)[3:29]* plugwash (~plugwash@cpc7-stkp7-2-0-cust208.10-2.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[3:30]* Quietlyawesome94 (~chatzilla@adsl-074-184-089-183.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined #raspberrypi[3:30]* PiBot sets mode +v Quietlyawesome94[3:31]* tinti (~tinti@201.62.162.119) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[3:31]* fayimora (~fayimora@host86-140-213-90.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[3:32]* fayimora_ (~fayimora@host86-140-213-90.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) has joined #raspberrypi[3:32]* PiBot sets mode +v fayimora_[3:32]* adb (~IonMoldom@178-211-235-11.dhcp.voenergies.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[3:33]* Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk[3:34]* satellit_e (~satellit_@bbb72-0-185-15.bendbroadband.com) has joined #raspberrypi[3:34]* PiBot sets mode +v satellit_e[3:35]* Opinie (~Opinie@pc-184-130.cable.aina.net) has joined #raspberrypi[3:35]* PiBot sets mode +v Opinie[3:37]* pinion (~Adium@99-13-236-73.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi[3:37]* PiBot sets mode +v pinion[3:38]* Xark (~chatzilla@cpe-50-113-123-229.san.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121128204232])[3:38]* Xark (~chatzilla@cpe-50-113-123-229.san.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi[3:38]* PiBot sets mode +v Xark[3:39]* home (~home@unaffiliated/home) has joined #raspberrypi[3:39]* PiBot sets mode +v home[3:48]* markbook (~markllama@pool-74-104-180-140.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #raspberrypi[3:48]* PiBot sets mode +v markbook[3:50]* richardbranson (~pi@host86-178-56-115.range86-178.btcentralplus.com) has joined #raspberrypi[3:50]* PiBot sets mode +v richardbranson[3:51]* pinion (~Adium@99-13-236-73.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[3:51]<richardbranson> hi, in rasp is inside temp sensor?[3:51]<Opinie> yeah there's a temp sensor in the pi[3:54]<Opinie> richardbranson: might want to check this out: http://www.elinux.org/RPI_vcgencmd_usage[3:54]<richardbranson> i will find out[3:55]<richardbranson> i checked - i've got 45C[3:55]<Opinie> nothing to worry about then[3:56]* pinion (~Adium@99-13-236-73.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi[3:56]* PiBot sets mode +v pinion[3:57]<richardbranson> i just have ran web server, mysql and 3 programs on screens, without x-server[4:01]* marl_scot1 (~matt@cpc1-dumb5-2-0-cust86.20-3.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[4:02]* home (~home@unaffiliated/home) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[4:03]* Mikelevel (~M@60.Red-80-25-210.staticIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #raspberrypi[4:03]* PiBot sets mode +v Mikelevel[4:07]* humanpopsicle (~AndChat33@ppp-70-130-44-216.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net) has joined #raspberrypi[4:07]* PiBot sets mode +v humanpopsicle[4:10]* dr_willis (~dr_willis@2601:d:a180:2b:d03e:d55e:6e03:5188) has joined #raspberrypi[4:10]* PiBot sets mode +v dr_willis[4:12]<humanpopsicle> Busy in here lol[4:20]* dividedbyzer0 (47ebd20b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.235.210.11) has joined #raspberrypi[4:20]* PiBot sets mode +v dividedbyzer0[4:20]<dividedbyzer0> Anyone know a place that accepts paypal and sells the Pi?[4:23]<CelticTurnip> adafruit[4:23]<Opinie> dividedbyzer0: I'm pretty sure I bought mine from RS with paypal http://uk.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=raspberrypi[4:23]<Opinie> err[4:23]<Opinie> I'm pretty out of my depth trying to get synergy to work on raspbian[4:24]<dr_willis> i got synergy working just yesterday with ubuntu and raspian i think[4:24]<Opinie> dr_willis: dude, please help[4:24]<dr_willis> make a proper .synergy.conf file on each box[4:24]<Opinie> or refer me to tutorials[4:24]<dr_willis> took example from the man synergyc page[4:24]<Opinie> we need to start with baser things[4:25]* CelticTurnip goes back to configuring ZFS on FreeBSD 9.1[4:25]<Opinie> dr_willis: did you just apt-get synergy?[4:26]* pinion (~Adium@99-13-236-73.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[4:27]<dr_willis> Opinie: yes[4:27]<Opinie> then what?[4:29]<dr_willis> make a proper .synergy.conf file on each box[4:29]<dr_willis> took example from the man synergyc page[4:29]<dr_willis> cant get copy/pasteworking to show mine[4:29]* pinion (~Adium@99-13-236-73.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi[4:29]* PiBot sets mode +v pinion[4:30]<Opinie> dr_willis: ok, I was puzzled when man synergy didn't work, but apparently it is as you said man synergyc[4:30]<Opinie> how do you use synergy?[4:30]<Opinie> I mean what do you use it for?[4:30]<Opinie> to have a dual monitor?[4:31]<dr_willis> you have 2 pcs each with their own monitor.. sitting where you can see both pc/monitors[4:31]<dr_willis> the commands are synergyc ans synergys[4:31]<dr_willis> not 'synergy'[4:31]<Opinie> ok[4:31]<dr_willis> c=client s=server[4:32]<Opinie> so as I would like to use a monitor attached to RPi as a dual monitor via synergy, I have configure synergys??? right?[4:32]<dr_willis> dual monitor?[4:32]<Opinie> use a monitor attached to the pi as an external monitor on another computer[4:33]<Opinie> by using synergy[4:33]<Opinie> I thought that was possible with synergy[4:33]<humanpopsicle> Nope[4:33]<dr_willis> you share the same keyboard/mouse with 2+ pcs[4:33]<humanpopsicle> Synergy allows the sharing of kb and mouse[4:34]<Opinie> I'm an idiot[4:34]<dr_willis> 4 pcs with 4 monitors. 1 keybord[4:34]* luigy (~luigy@pool-108-50-173-45.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[4:35]<humanpopsicle> No you just didn't know[4:35]<dr_willis> i mouse to the right.. i controll my pi.. mouse to ther left on the other pc[4:35]<humanpopsicle> Pretty cool program actually[4:35]<Opinie> but what is this person doing then: http://synergy-foss.org/osqa/questions/1920/dual-monitor-w-synergy ?[4:36]<Opinie> oh right[4:40]* dr_willis_ (~dr_willis@166.137.97.250) has joined #raspberrypi[4:40]* PiBot sets mode +v dr_willis_[4:40]<dr_willis_> hmm,. irc client crashed[4:41]<Opinie> so I set up the server on the machine, which keyboard and mouse I want to use on the machines running synergy clients?[4:41]<dr_willis_> i dont suppose anyone has gotten znc working on that rapsien distro? i got some weird error last night when i tried[4:42]<dr_willis_> server has the keybord/mouse - rest are clients[4:42]<Opinie> yeah ok[4:42]<ParkerR_> TAFB, E1200 is kinda nice for me considring the routers I had before http://i.imgur.com/D8RTk.png[4:42]<ParkerR_> *considering[4:43]<Opinie> dr_willis: did you notice that there's also quicksynergy?[4:44]<Opinie> for quick set up[4:44]* oldtopman (~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman) has joined #raspberrypi[4:44]* PiBot sets mode +v oldtopman[4:44]<Opinie> of client[4:44]<dr_willis_> i never got that tool to work[4:44]<Opinie> oh[4:44]<dr_willis_> that was a year+ ago[4:44]<Opinie> in what sense?[4:44]<dr_willis_> plus i knew how to do it by hand...[4:44]<Opinie> didn't it even start up[4:44]<dr_willis_> it never made a proper config,[4:44]<Opinie> ah[4:44]<dr_willis_> so it never worked[4:45]<dr_willis_> in the configs you use pc names.. you MIGHT have to edit your hosts so the name/ip match up[4:45]<dr_willis_> /etc/hosts[4:46]<Opinie> my ip addresses are constantly changing, but I have avahi-daemon running on the pi[4:46]<Opinie> couldn't I just use my mac's bonjour name?[4:46]<Opinie> as in xxx.local[4:47]<dr_willis_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1443028/[4:47]<dr_willis_> no idea[4:47]<Opinie> ok[4:47]<dr_willis_> my lan = all static ips[4:48]* CelticTurnip (~celt@unaffiliated/celticturnip) Quit (Quit: 'Unix is a computer virus with a user interface.' - The UNIX-HATERS Handbook.)[4:48]<Opinie> so that's your conf on the pi?[4:48]<dr_willis_> thats the conf on both machines. ;)[4:48]<dr_willis_> pi is above the pc. (on a tv on the wall)[4:49]<dr_willis_> my /etc/hosts file has a name/ip entry for both machines matching thenames in the config. (same as the hostname)[4:49]<dr_willis_> not sure if thats needed or not[4:50]<Opinie> what I actually originally was interested in doing would have been something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDOlqC9ZPTI[4:50]<dr_willis_> synergys -c .synergy.conf -f starts the server in debug mode[4:51]<dr_willis_> then each client runs synergyc -c .synergy.conf ip#.of.the.server (i think)[4:51]<dr_willis_> and dont 'ssh in' then try running that.. ;) it can goof things up[4:52]<dr_willis_> i had synergy x forwarding back to itself once...[4:52]* tripleXXX (~bizarro_1@80.30.236.48) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[4:53]<dr_willis_> i just have several pcs each with its own monitor. i mouse around the edges to the next pc.. controll it.. mouse back controll other pc..[4:55]<Opinie> dr_willis: this question probably pisses you off slightly, but I am ill and somewhat disoriented.. where do I place that conf file exactly?[4:56]<dr_willis_> in yout home. ic could be anywhere you just tell it where..[4:56]<dr_willis_> ie: -c /path/to/the/file.conf[4:56]<Opinie> er[4:56]<Opinie> how[4:57]<TAFB> sorry for being afk peeps :) big adobe primere render job :) was only supposed to help this guy stream his event live on his Samsung S3 using livestream.com app, but I brought my few GoPro's and my Canon T2i/550d all hacked up for pro video recording. And guess what, I had better camera and mic gear than the professional company he hired to shoot it! lol.[4:57]<dr_willis_> synergys -c /the/path/to/the/config/.synergy.conf -f starts the server in debug mode[4:57]<TAFB> 4 hours of video, 1080p on 3 camera's, gonna take a bit :([4:58]<Opinie> dr_willis: ah, of course[4:59]<TAFB> My Pi is running so chilly :) Love the variable overclocking (and underclocking) :) http://toysareforboys.no-ip.info:8000/[5:00]<dr_willis_> hmm.. i had one of those mini-fridges.. could hold like a 6pack...[5:00]<dr_willis_> that would be a neat pi case.[5:00]<TAFB> lol, chilly for sure[5:00]<TAFB> wonder if condensation would be an issue?[5:00]<dr_willis_> but i gave it away.. i remember now.[5:01]<dr_willis_> it would have been a neat coca-cola case[5:01]* SuperMiguel (6c099304@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.9.147.4) Quit (Quit: Page closed)[5:01]<dr_willis_> it sucked as a fridge. ;)[5:01]<TAFB> rofl[5:02]<dr_willis_> been eyeing my collection of metal tins also, ;) wonder if i could double side tape a pi inside one[5:02]* Cykey (~textual@modemcable119.94-162-184.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[5:02]<dr_willis_> or is foam tape conductive?[5:02]<TAFB> i got me a wordpress blog. I'ma do some walk throughs for Pi mods :)[5:02]<TAFB> foam tape shouldn't be[5:03]<dr_willis_> or some balsa wood and a few dabs of a hot glue gun[5:03]<TAFB> i'm find somethin to eat, missed dinner by 3 or 4 hours :( brb[5:03]<dr_willis_> gonna have to keep my eye peeled at the rumage sales[5:04]<dr_willis_> i gave away my c64/vic20/timex-sinclare years ago[5:04]<Opinie> TAFB: can I have the address of your blog?[5:04]<dr_willis_> been cool if i could have used a real c64s keybord[5:05]<TAFB> Opinie: sure, let me find it[5:06]<TAFB> Opinie: http://tafb.pihosted.org[5:06]<dr_willis_> i could not find any 'regular' lego kits at the store yesterday either. for a case. eveyry lego kit was expensive starwars or a hobbit house..[5:06]<dr_willis_> The hobbit house was cool.. but $70[5:06]<Opinie> TAFB: thanks[5:07]<TAFB> Opinie: no probs. I got a pretty retarded weekend/monday so prolly won't work on it till after that :)[5:07]<Opinie> ok[5:10]<Opinie> can figure out what this person may have done to accomplish this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDOlqC9ZPTI[5:10]<TAFB> never knews you could run: crontab -e[5:10]<TAFB> woot :)[5:11]<TAFB> never knew you could create a vitrual 2nd monitor on vnc :)[5:11]<TAFB> and I use vnc all the time :)[5:12]<Opinie> neither did I[5:12]<ParkerR_> I have to say: the Atrix laptop feels really solid[5:13]<TAFB> Pic ParkerR_, PICS?![5:13]<ParkerR_> TAFB, I streamed it[5:13]<ParkerR_> The unboxing[5:13]<TAFB> I MISSED IT[5:13]<TAFB> was on service call[5:13]<TAFB> making fun of "professional" videographers that had inferior equipment to my "digital camera" lol[5:13]<dr_willis_> hmm vnc can have hidden desktops only seen with a vnc server.[5:14]<ParkerR_> TAFB, http://www.twitch.tv/parkerlreed/b/348314747[5:14]<dr_willis_> thats how vnc normally works. the 'shareing of the visible desktop' is actually a relatively new feature ;)[5:14]<TAFB> all i see is a blanket and a crappy router[5:15]<TAFB> ;)[5:15]<ParkerR_> TAFB, Keep watching :P[5:15]<TAFB> don't you unbox something[5:15]<TAFB> i swear parker[5:15]<dr_willis_> 'when you see it.......'[5:15]* Jungle-Boogie (~Jungle-Bo@unaffiliated/jungle-boogie) has joined #raspberrypi[5:15]* PiBot sets mode +v Jungle-Boogie[5:15]<ParkerR_> dr_willis_, What?[5:16]<TAFB> my computer can't play video right now, it's encoding 1080p :([5:16]<dr_willis_> ;) reminded me of all these reddit 'keep watching/when you see it' video posts[5:16]<TAFB> man, you know when putty runs slow, your PC is hurtin ;)[5:17]<dr_willis_> im on my phone so cant really watch either[5:18]<TAFB> what phone u got willis?[5:18]<dr_willis_> S3. i irc from it all day at work. ;)[5:18]<ParkerR_> dr_willis_, Flash player and the stock ICS browser :P[5:18]<mrhobbz> what irc client you use on your s3?[5:19]<TAFB> S3 is a smokin phone :) I used one to stream a dog show tonight, live in 720p :)[5:19]* TheSeven (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) Quit (Disconnected by services)[5:19]* [7] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) has joined #raspberrypi[5:19]* PiBot sets mode +v [7][5:19]<dr_willis_> i normally irc to my znc server, then bounce to freenode[5:19]<dr_willis_> i could not get znc working on rasbien last night however.[5:19]* xiambax (~xiambax@S01060023697f9afb.vn.shawcable.net) Quit (Quit: xiambax)[5:22]<JohnRambozo> ;streaming dogshows is a true test ability, tafb[5:22]* yofel_ (~quassel@ubuntu/member/yofel) has joined #raspberrypi[5:22]* PiBot sets mode +v yofel_[5:22]<JohnRambozo> *test of[5:23]<TAFB> JohnRambozo: I had no idea how much work it was going to be, I'm so sore from all the running around :([5:23]<JohnRambozo> tafb: haha.[5:23]<JohnRambozo> I'm about to try my first compile of quake 3.[5:24]<TAFB> JohnRambozo: He had a professional production company record it, with Canon t4i's with built in mics! rofl. I had my T2i with my Rode Video Mic Pro, plus hacked firmware for cinema quality video. I made em look silly.[5:24]<TAFB> Is it compiled yet?[5:24]<JohnRambozo> yeah.[5:24]<TAFB> woot[5:24]<TAFB> frag a few for me[5:24]* Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky[5:24]<JohnRambozo> i don't think i can do it over vnc though[5:24]* kcj (~casey@unaffiliated/kcj) has joined #raspberrypi[5:24]* PiBot sets mode +v kcj[5:25]<TAFB> you can't even have x running in the background, gotta be fresh clean shell[5:25]* dr_willis_ (~dr_willis@166.137.97.250) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[5:25]<JohnRambozo> okay.[5:26]<JohnRambozo> i have to kill all unecessary processes then?[5:26]<JohnRambozo> or just make a quake3 only install?[5:26]<TAFB> just xwindows and vnc are usually it[5:26]<JohnRambozo> ok[5:26]<TAFB> you can do the ps -aux thing and look for funny stuff if quake doesn't run[5:27]* yofel (~quassel@ubuntu/member/yofel) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[5:27]<TAFB> you got your .pak files in the q3demo folder OK? That part of the instructions was dumb[5:27]<JohnRambozo> yeah, after 3 or 4 tries.[5:28]<TAFB> i know :([5:28]<JohnRambozo> i just read where quake was looking for them and put them there.[5:28]<TAFB> lol![5:28]* dr_willis_ (~dr_willis@166.137.97.250) has joined #raspberrypi[5:28]* PiBot sets mode +v dr_willis_[5:28]<JohnRambozo> when you run it, it tells the search path for the pak files.[5:28]<JohnRambozo> it says one of my pak files has a bad checksum... is that typical?[5:28]<TAFB> ahhh, never knew cause after 31 unzip attempts I got em in the right spot[5:28]<JohnRambozo> hahahah[5:28]<JohnRambozo> yeah...[5:29]<JohnRambozo> i moved them 3 times manually, then realized I had to unzip them.[5:29]<TAFB> JohnRambozo: I don't think so? I know it was bitching it couldn't load one of the maps, but when I checked that was a pay map?![5:29]<JohnRambozo> THEN i realized it creates the folder anyway.[5:29]<JohnRambozo> its pak 3 thats messed up.[5:29]<TAFB> yay! my first program in init.d, and it works![5:29]<TAFB> and i can stop it and start it easy now (pancake)[5:29]<JohnRambozo> awesome.[5:29]<ParkerR_> TAFB, Whatcha doing?[5:30]<TAFB> had to get pancake outa crontab and into init.d so I could restart it easy[5:30]<TAFB> now my pi should be in for some serious "uptime" :)[5:31]<JohnRambozo> woot[5:32]* home (~home@unaffiliated/home) has joined #raspberrypi[5:32]* PiBot sets mode +v home[5:33]<TAFB> wow, so much memory free now! By tweaking Pancake I reduced the amount of ram it uses by 18mb! :)[5:33]* dr_willis_ (~dr_willis@166.137.97.250) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[5:33]<JohnRambozo> way to conserve space[5:34]* Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk[5:34]<TAFB> when I was running a PHP load test on it, to it's max of 10,000 sockets, I saw it was using 2mb of the "swap" and I didn't want it swappin on my SD card, so I figured I had to clean it up a lil[5:35]<ParkerR_> Is using swap bad?[5:35]<ParkerR_> I thought that actually keeps it from crashing[5:35]<JohnRambozo> dangerous or just hurts performance?[5:35]<TAFB> it's not good for your SD card[5:35]<JohnRambozo> sd cards kind of have a limited number of writes. right?[5:36]* dr_willis_ (~dr_willis@166.137.98.64) has joined #raspberrypi[5:36]* PiBot sets mode +v dr_willis_[5:36]<TAFB> causes abnormal wear to a small section of your SD card because wear levelling doesn't work with swap :([5:36]<TAFB> JohnRambozo: correct[5:36]<shiftplusone> If you're going to use swap I'd modify the settings so that swapping is something that only happens as last resort[5:36]<JohnRambozo> so swap is bad then. :)[5:36]<TAFB> shiftplusone: got a link/info?[5:37]<shiftplusone> TAFB, look up swappiness[5:37]<TAFB> when I saw it using 2mb of swap, I assumed it had used all of my ram, does sometimes it use swap anyway!??! :([5:37]<JohnRambozo> swap = lastresort[5:37]* CelticTurnip (~celt@unaffiliated/celticturnip) has joined #raspberrypi[5:37]* PiBot sets mode +v CelticTurnip[5:37]<shiftplusone> TAFB, echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness[5:38]<shiftplusone> "vm.swappiness = 0 - it will swap only to avoid an out of memory condition"[5:38]<JohnRambozo> hah[5:38]<shiftplusone> Permanent changes are made in /etc/sysctl.conf via the following configuration line (inserted if not present previously): vm.swappiness = 0[5:38]<TAFB> nice[5:38]<shiftplusone> I am just pasting from here, btw. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swappiness[5:38]<JohnRambozo> sounds like that should be a default setting[5:39]<TAFB> i get permission denied, even with sudo[5:39]<JohnRambozo> seems like...[5:39]<JohnRambozo> try su - first?[5:39]<JohnRambozo> i had that problem with something earlier.[5:39]<TAFB> k.[5:39]<JohnRambozo> i had to switch to root to make it work.[5:40]<TAFB> su worked :)[5:40]<JohnRambozo> finally I got to help tafb.[5:40]<TAFB> default on wheezy image: vm.swappiness=1[5:40]<TAFB> :([5:41]<shiftplusone> that's pretty much the same as 0[5:41]<TAFB> ahhh[5:41]<TAFB> set to swap when it has less than 8mb of ram left[5:41]<shiftplusone> It's 0-100, so there can't be that much of a difference between 0 and 1 O_o[5:41]<JohnRambozo> yeah i just saw that.[5:41]<shiftplusone> ah good[5:41]<TAFB> yeah, 1 is prolly 8mb left, 0 is 0mb left :)[5:42]<shiftplusone> Good default then[5:42]<JohnRambozo> probably.[5:42]<TAFB> yeah, I'll leve it alone[5:42]<TAFB> ok, now to add to my status page, top 10 memory hogs and top 10 cpu hogs :)[5:42]<JohnRambozo> the echo setting change is just temporary.[5:42]<JohnRambozo> nice[5:42]<shiftplusone> yup[5:43]<TAFB> run this for your top 10 memory hogs: ps -e -orss=,args= | sort -b -k1,1nr | pr -TW$COLUMNS | head[5:43]<TAFB> pastebin em if you got some good ones[5:44]<shiftplusone> I am going to go out on a limb and say Xorg.[5:44]<TAFB> rofl[5:44]<TAFB> no x runnin on my server, pancake is king at 8mb :)[5:44]<JohnRambozo> x is my top offender[5:44]<ackthet> TAFB: what are the units on the output[5:44]<TAFB> how much for x?[5:44]<ackthet> bytes?[5:44]<ackthet> kb?[5:44]<JohnRambozo> is this in kb?[5:44]<TAFB> kb[5:44]<shiftplusone> wth is pancake?[5:45]<TAFB> web server[5:45]<JohnRambozo> only 5 megs[5:45]<shiftplusone> ah[5:45]<TAFB> runs my: http://toysareforboys.no-ip.info:8000/[5:45]<JohnRambozo> what is -:0[5:45]<ParkerR_> :D[5:45]<shiftplusone> how does it compare to nginx?[5:45]<shiftplusone> nvrm, I'll look it up.. stupid question.[5:45]<ParkerR_> Opentyrian on the Pi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwz4g5RucS0[5:45]<TAFB> way faster[5:45]<TAFB> especially on the pi[5:45]<TAFB> look at the load tests[5:45]<shiftplusone> php support?[5:45]<TAFB> won't install without it[5:45]* dividedbyzer0 (47ebd20b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.235.210.11) Quit (Quit: Page closed)[5:45]<shiftplusone> hmm, thanks[5:46]<TAFB> that gauge you see on my page is php: http://toysareforboys.no-ip.info:8000/[5:46]<TAFB> not to mention all the values are pulled with php :)[5:46]* James_Carmack (~james@101.85.197.99) has joined #raspberrypi[5:46]* PiBot sets mode +v James_Carmack[5:46]<JohnRambozo> no relation to john carmack?[5:48]* shiftplusone changes the ssh port after going through denyhosts log >=/[5:48]<TAFB> shiftplusone: yikes. I have my Pi wide open to the net too! what's the default port? I was told 21 but that's impossible cause my ftp runs on 21?[5:49]<shiftplusone> 22[5:49]<JohnRambozo> 22 is ssh[5:49]<TAFB> ahhh[5:49]<JohnRambozo> 23 is telnet[5:49]<TAFB> thought so[5:49]<TAFB> i dmz'd my pi ;)[5:49]<TAFB> so i wasn't sure[5:49]<shiftplusone> have you changed the default password?[5:49]<JohnRambozo> i haven't[5:49]<TAFB> just prior to dmz'ing it, yep.[5:49]<CelticTurnip> more importantly the sshe key ;)[5:49]<CelticTurnip> or we're all in[5:50]<shiftplusone> There's an ssh key preinstalled?[5:50]<shiftplusone> I thought that would be something you'd have to set up yourself first O_o[5:51]* worksgd (~worksgd@75.76.248.98) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[5:52]<CelticTurnip> lets just say most of the Pi installs out in the wild are pretty insecure at the moment :)[5:52]<shiftplusone> Is that just the raspbian image?[5:53]<ParkerR_> Netsinstalls <3[5:53]<CelticTurnip> can't comment on Arch haven't used it[5:53]<ParkerR_> And you kinda have to forward the port for it to be open to the wild[5:53]<CelticTurnip> ParkerR_: lol, really? so that's the only thing wrong you see?[5:54]<ParkerR_> ?[5:54]<ParkerR_> I never said I see anything wrong[5:54]<ackthet> you should see something wrong though[5:54]<CelticTurnip> ParkerR_: I'd suggest you look at the way ssh works[5:54]* asd (~asd@p54BA5151.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[5:54]* ackthet does[5:54]<JohnRambozo> he sai dhe loves netsinstalls[5:54]<TAFB> can you super smart linux peeps help me get this listed in reverse order (biggest at the top): ps -e -o pcpu,cpu,nice,state,cputime,args --sort pcpu | sed '/^ 0.0 /d'[5:54]<mrhobbz> sure[5:54]<mrhobbz> | sort -r -n[5:54]<TAFB> k. i'll try :)[5:55]<shiftplusone> So... looks like there are keys preinstalled on raspbian... that's kind of stupid of them O_O[5:55]<TAFB> nope, it puts the table heading at the bottom :([5:55]<ParkerR_> CelticTurnip, But when I gen my own key and have my own password set. And have my own name for the default user.[5:55]<CelticTurnip> shiftplusone: indeed[5:55]<ParkerR_> And I also dont forward my ssh port[5:55]<CelticTurnip> ParkerR_: I'm saying currently there is a massive bot net ready to happen, if you're only issue with them using the same ssh key is port forwarding you're missing the point[5:56]<CelticTurnip> if you're install is secure, that's nice... shiftplusone for example had no idea they shipped the same key, how many others don't?[5:56]<JohnRambozo> pi's would be a dangerous botnot.[5:56]<JohnRambozo> botnet[5:56]<CelticTurnip> and of them how many just enabled ssh and are using it?[5:56]* markbook (~markllama@pool-74-104-180-140.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[5:57]<shiftplusone> TAFB, if you haven't already, rm /etc/ssh/ssh_host_* && dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server[5:57]<TAFB> ok, this works but leaves a blank line in the middle of the sort? lol: ps -e -o pcpu,cpu,nice,state,cputime,args --sort pcpu | sed '/^ 0.0 /d' | sort -r[5:58]* jxriddle (~jxriddle@ip-69-27-56-206.slm.blueriver.net) Quit (Quit: jxriddle)[5:58]<CelticTurnip> jes' how tired an I? my your and you're are borked :)[6:01]* pinion (~Adium@99-13-236-73.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[6:01]* CelticTurnip puts on his grey hat and goes back to the window with FreeBSD in it[6:02]* pinion (~Adium@99-13-236-73.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi[6:02]* PiBot sets mode +v pinion[6:03]* luigy (~luigy@pool-108-50-173-45.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #raspberrypi[6:03]* PiBot sets mode +v luigy[6:03]* dr_willis_ (~dr_willis@166.137.98.64) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[6:06]<shiftplusone> CelticTurnip, I gather than you know more than most on the matter. How secure is linux nowadays if you don't take extra precautions like using selinux, hardened kernels or anything like that? Is your typical distro running apache, and wordpress something that could be easily accessed by someone who keeps up to date with various vulnurabilities??[6:07]* thomashunter (~thomashun@c-67-167-132-241.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[6:07]* PiBot sets mode +v thomashunter[6:07]<CelticTurnip> shiftplusone: secure enough that I use BSD ;)[6:07]<shiftplusone> hmm =/[6:08]* asd (~asd@p54BA4BD1.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #raspberrypi[6:08]* PiBot sets mode +v asd[6:08]<ackthet> more secure that windows? <_<[6:08]<ackthet> its more of a user thing than a distro thing imho[6:08]<CelticTurnip> shiftplusone: IMHO Unix and Unix like operating systems are reasonably dangerous in the wrong hands.[6:08]<CelticTurnip> ackthet: exactly[6:10]<CelticTurnip> shiftplusone: SELinux is a prime example, how many people don't know how to use it properly and just disable for the sake of ease of use?[6:11]<CelticTurnip> and stuff like changing ssh ports is pointless IMO, it takes all of 20 seconds to find the new port if you know what you're doing (and that's on a slow connection)[6:11]<shiftplusone> Well, it makes sense to keep the bots away, not for a targeted attack, I understand that.[6:12]<CelticTurnip> /etc/hosts.deny and hosts.allow are there for a reason :)[6:12]<CelticTurnip> I use random ssh ports on all of my servers too, but I hold no expectation that that's a security fix :)[6:14]<shiftplusone> Well yeah, that's what denyhosts does... looks at the access log and puts the bots in hosts.deny.[6:14]* Syliss (~Home@adsl-108-82-200-247.dsl.chi2ca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi[6:14]* PiBot sets mode +v Syliss[6:14]<ackthet> best option is to run IPSec[6:15]<ackthet> for all private stuff[6:15]<TAFB> i'm gonna have a nap, i'm bushed. nite nite[6:15]* TAFB is now known as TAFB_zzz[6:15]<shiftplusone> 'night[6:17]<shiftplusone> I browsed a hacking forum for a little while a few months back and the number of vulnurabilities I saw was just ridiculous. You could give people a salted password hash and they'd get back to you with the password (I think it was md5 in that case). There were all sorts of phpbb and wordpress exploits (which worked) and so on. That quickly shattered my illusion of security. If all of that is publically available, then what do the peopl[6:17]<shiftplusone> e who do this for a living know. =/[6:18]<CelticTurnip> shiftplusone: btw to answer your question about apache/wordpress... there are currently 145 exploits for wordpress :)[6:18]<ackthet> yeah running wordpress or any php/mysql thing publicly on a server that you care about (email, personal stuff) is the worlds biggest mistake[6:18]<CelticTurnip> shiftplusone: people like ackthet and I use OpenBSD for a reason :)[6:18]<ackthet> yep[6:19]<ackthet> also it has a nice IPSec client[6:19]<ackthet> :D[6:19]<ackthet> err server[6:19]* ukgamer is now known as ukgamer|away[6:19]<shiftplusone> Alright, I guess that's something to look into at some stage[6:19]<shiftplusone> thanks[6:20]<ackthet> you should do it[6:20]<ackthet> DOITNAO[6:20]<shiftplusone> nuh, i'll DOITLATA[6:20]<CelticTurnip> :)[6:20]* Opinie (~Opinie@pc-184-130.cable.aina.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[6:21]<mrhobbz> if you can't figure out how to secure a linux box you're going to fumble around quite a bit with bsd[6:22]<CelticTurnip> just go with Solaris :P[6:22]<ackthet> /opt heaven[6:22]<CelticTurnip> you no knock Solaris ackthet![6:23]<ackthet> you're the one who loves /opt CelticTurnip[6:23]<CelticTurnip> yep[6:23]<ackthet> i heard a rumor round the net that you mkdir /opt$n where n is 1-99[6:23]<CelticTurnip> well damn bonnie++ didn't take as long as I thought it would to compile[6:23]<CelticTurnip> as if[6:23]<CelticTurnip> I hit 255 now[6:23]* pksato (~PEBKAC@unaffiliated/pksato) Quit (Quit: Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair)[6:23]<CelticTurnip> need more opt[6:24]* home (~home@unaffiliated/home) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[6:24]<mrhobbz> i'll stick with AIX over solaris, given the chance[6:25]* home (~home@unaffiliated/home) has joined #raspberrypi[6:25]* PiBot sets mode +v home[6:25]<CelticTurnip> I got rid of my Ultra 45 recently, Solaris honestly just seems pointless to me now[6:26]* soldicon (~soldicon@unaffiliated/soldicon) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[6:26]<CelticTurnip> need a T2 :)[6:26]* soldicon (~soldicon@unaffiliated/soldicon) has joined #raspberrypi[6:26]* PiBot sets mode +v soldicon[6:27]<CelticTurnip> ackthet: that was a bit weird, the first port I grab on this new install... no deps :)[6:27]<CelticTurnip> ackthet: I'll stop using it now, and rave on about how fast ports are :P[6:27]<ackthet> hehe[6:27]<ackthet> try building mediatomb[6:27]<ackthet> i'll see you in about 8 weeks[6:27]<CelticTurnip> screw you, you know that box is slow :)[6:27]<CelticTurnip> you so mean![6:28]<home> GUYA[6:28]<home> GUYS[6:28]<CelticTurnip> WHATA[6:28]<shiftplusone> WHY ARE WE YELLING?[6:28]<CelticTurnip> WE APPLE ][ING ?[6:28]<home> I NEED AN OS FOR MY RASPBERRY PI[6:28]<home> that IS MINIMAL[6:28]<mrhobbz> RISC[6:28]<CelticTurnip> OH EASY... PLAN 9[6:28]<home> also..it needs to be able to do wifi usb[6:28]<mrhobbz> INSTALL RISC[6:28]<ackthet> THEY'RE ALL MINIMAL[6:29]<home> WHY?[6:29]<buZz> I WANT TO TRY RISC[6:29]<mrhobbz> risc, about as minimal as you're gonna get[6:29]<shiftplusone> To be fair, there are some bare metal example to blink LEDs.[6:29]<CelticTurnip> lol[6:29]<shiftplusone> You could run one of those[6:30]<home> nah man[6:30]<home> I need to run Python[6:30]<home> got 256 mb version too :/[6:30]<CelticTurnip> Arch Linux, and roll it how ever you want[6:30]* jxriddle (~jxriddle@ip-69-27-56-206.slm.blueriver.net) has joined #raspberrypi[6:30]* PiBot sets mode +v jxriddle[6:30]<shiftplusone> There are minimal raspbian images as well[6:30]<home> I want one[6:31]<shiftplusone> http://www.raspbian.org/HexxehImages[6:31]<home> that is updated :P with th latest firmware, and all the good temp and oc stuff[6:31]<CelticTurnip> ackthet: why for bonnie++ take so long? :([6:31]<home> got 2gb sd car too:/[6:33]* pinion (~Adium@99-13-236-73.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[6:34]<ackthet> CelticTurnip: how much ram?[6:34]* pinion (~Adium@99-13-236-73.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi[6:34]* PiBot sets mode +v pinion[6:34]<CelticTurnip> 8GB[6:34]<CelticTurnip> I know I know, should have 64GB for ZFS :([6:37]<CelticTurnip> ackthet: might rebuild this box with a couple of SSDs, just so I can win our bonnie++ battles ;)[6:37]<ackthet> haha[6:38]<ackthet> CelticTurnip: 64 per cpu[6:38]<ackthet> 2 cpu per drive[6:38]<ackthet> minimum for ZFS[6:38]<ackthet> but then i'll build a ssd raid 0[6:38]<CelticTurnip> 165MB/s :([6:38]<ackthet> read?[6:38]<CelticTurnip> yep[6:38]<CelticTurnip> write is 70MB/s[6:38]<ackthet> ouch[6:38]<CelticTurnip> that's on a ZFS mirror though, nothing fancy[6:39]<CelticTurnip> they're pretty dodgy drives, just consumer Seagates so no complaints[6:39]* halfhalo (halfhalo@nasadmin/webteam/halfhalo) Quit (Excess Flood)[6:40]<CelticTurnip> but it sure ain't no 380MB/s like I get on the SAS drives :D[6:40]* halfhalo (halfhalo@nasadmin/webteam/halfhalo) has joined #raspberrypi[6:40]* PiBot sets mode +v halfhalo[6:42]<ackthet> if only i could afford SAS[6:42]* luigy (~luigy@pool-108-50-173-45.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[6:43]* intothev01d (~intothev0@unaffiliated/intothev01d) Quit (Quit: intothev01d)[6:43]<CelticTurnip> outside of servers I prefer SSD[6:44]<ackthet> well[6:44]<ackthet> for OS's sure[6:44]* thesquib (~thesquib@120.136.2.150.host.layer2.co.nz) Quit (Quit: thesquib)[6:44]<ackthet> but for mass storage (like > 1TB) not so much[6:44]<ackthet> unless you have $$$$$$[6:44]* thesquib (~thesquib@120.136.2.150) has joined #raspberrypi[6:44]* PiBot sets mode +v thesquib[6:46]<CelticTurnip> they've come down heaps, here in .au land $379 for a 480GBer[6:51]<home> GUYS[6:51]<home> uhm[6:51]<home> so what minimal os[6:52]<home> that when updating doesn't break everyting[6:52]<home> I need the latest image..that has support for the cpu+temp stuff :/[6:52]<home> has to be a minimal image too[6:52]<CelticTurnip> didn't you ask this like 10 minutes ago? :P[6:52]<CelticTurnip> I'm pretty sure the answers haven't changed :)[6:57]* Jeffsi (~Jeffsi@64.211.118.248) has joined #raspberrypi[6:57]* PiBot sets mode +v Jeffsi[6:58]* Pickley (~Pickley@203.160.127.176) has joined #raspberrypi[6:58]* PiBot sets mode +v Pickley[6:59]* Syliss (~Home@adsl-108-82-200-247.dsl.chi2ca.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: Syliss)[7:01]* Etherael (~etherael@node-cho.pool-125-24.dynamic.totbb.net) has joined #raspberrypi[7:01]* PiBot sets mode +v Etherael[7:01]<home> CelticTurnip: based on Raspbian :D[7:01]* jaxdahl (jaxdahl@mikegundy.residential.okstate.edu) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[7:01]<home> I don't want to update to the latest and greatest..[7:02]<Etherael> I have been using xbian on my pi for a while but the speed of it is very poor in my opinion, I was wondering if it would be possible instead to run it just as a dumb video out type setup and then I could set another XBMC on a faster machine to stream the actual output to it over the network? Is that or something like that actually possible? So effectively the pi is just receiving a constant 1080p h264 stream and has very litt[7:02]* pinion (~Adium@99-13-236-73.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[7:04]* pinion (~Adium@99-13-236-73.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi[7:04]* PiBot sets mode +v pinion[7:04]<Etherael> PS, that isn't supposed to be a criticism of the pi, I'm totally amazed at what it can do for the price, just for my particular use case I think if I could make use of it as a wireless video streamer rather than a full fledged media station it would be more useful[7:06]<home> Etherael: its more awesomer[7:06]<home> Etherael: I found it decent for watching videos :D[7:06]<home> Etherael: try #xbian[7:06]<Etherael> Yeah it works, as long as they're h264 encoded, but the time between menus per screen even overclocked @ 1ghz is approximately 20-30 seconds.[7:06]<home> yeah[7:07]<home> delay is long[7:07]<Etherael> and you may have to go through a hojillion screens per context switch.[7:07]<home> but what can you do :/[7:07]<home> I guess, it really depends[7:07]<mrhobbz> i run xbmc on one of mine, no where near that long between menus[7:07]<home> I didn't let it bother me that mcuh[7:07]<home> I don't find that much delay to be honest[7:07]<home> but it was still noticeable[7:07]<Etherael> so I just figured if it could always be in h264 streaming mode as a wireless video output device then it would not have to process anything beyond recieving the video stream (and almost all the work would be done by the GPU)[7:07]<Etherael> is that possible?[7:07]<home> But i remember having a good experience and time[7:08]<home> Who knows[7:08]<home> anything is possible[7:08]<Etherael> suffice it to say no amount of tuning is going to get it going faster than the i7 I use for a primary machine and XBMC on that will always be faster than on the pi.[7:08]<Etherael> so if I could do the brain there and output the display to the pi, that'd be perfect.[7:11]<dr_willis> ive been playing with openelec - it seems to play the few hd videos ive tried very well[7:11]<Etherael> the actual playing of the videos is just fine as long as they're h264 encoded.[7:11]<dr_willis> rasbien when i tried it - had issues playing the same files[7:12]<Etherael> it's more the responsiveness of XBMC itself in the non h264 decoding phases (the cpu reliant stuff)[7:14]* frodopwns (~frodopwns@173-19-91-140.client.mchsi.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[7:14]<home> well[7:15]* Opinie (~Opinie@pc-184-130.cable.aina.net) has joined #raspberrypi[7:15]* PiBot sets mode +v Opinie[7:15]<home> hope thatgets gpu accelerated[7:15]<Etherael> Yeah, I was thinking just now maybe you could set vlc up to just listen on a port for a h264 stream, but the pi needs omxplayer to use the hw decoder doesn't it?[7:16]<Opinie> so umm, kind of close to figuring out, how to share a screen attached to RPi to other machines via XDMX, but can't figure out what would be corresponding of one command for mac os x.. Might anyone be able to help?[7:16]* Jeffsi (~Jeffsi@64.211.118.248) Quit (Quit: Jeffsi)[7:17]<dr_willis> never heard of xdmx[7:17]<Opinie> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOzRCBGDVaE[7:17]<Etherael> multi X display for pseudo multi monitors.[7:18]<Etherael> Opinie: Which command?[7:18]<ackthet> people still use that stuff?[7:18]<Opinie> export |grep DISP[7:18]<Opinie> Etherael: what would you use instead?[7:18]<Opinie> oh never mind[7:18]<Etherael> I assume that was directed at ackthet.[7:18]<Opinie> yeah[7:18]<Etherael> Opinie: That looks like it's trying to get the X display.[7:18]<Etherael> Opinie: OS X doesn't have an X display.[7:19]<Etherael> OS X doesn't run X[7:19]<ackthet> Opinie: are you trying to view X on another machine?[7:19]<Opinie> it's possible to install x11 separately though[7:19]<ackthet> why not use VNC?[7:19]<ackthet> or spice[7:19]<ackthet> nx[7:19]<ackthet> et cetera[7:19]<Etherael> Yep, if you've set it up seperately then I assume you'd already know the appropriate DISPLAY?[7:20]<Etherael> by default it is usually :0[7:20]<Etherael> fwiw[7:20]<Opinie> err[7:20]* soldicon (~soldicon@unaffiliated/soldicon) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[7:20]<home> ...[7:22]<Opinie> I have XQuartz[7:22]* soldicon (~soldicon@unaffiliated/soldicon) has joined #raspberrypi[7:22]* PiBot sets mode +v soldicon[7:22]<Opinie> http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki[7:22]<Etherael> and it's running ?[7:22]<Etherael> and you can run X programs on it?[7:23]<Opinie> I'm pretty sure it must be as I'm able to install programs via fink, brew and macports[7:23]<Opinie> or is there some way of finding out[7:23]<Etherael> macports and friends are usually just non X programs that people on mac use.[7:23]<Etherael> what happens if you "DISPLAY=:0 xhost +" ?[7:23]<Etherael> from a command line[7:24]<Opinie> access control disabled, clients can connect from any host[7:24]* pinion (~Adium@99-13-236-73.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[7:25]<Etherael> Opinie: You've got a winner then, X is running on :0[7:25]<Opinie> um, ok[7:25]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) has joined #raspberrypi[7:25]* PiBot sets mode +v MrTiggr[7:25]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) Quit (Excess Flood)[7:26]<Etherael> for the record the command you originally said for me outputs this; declare -x DISPLAY=":0"[7:26]<Etherael> and this would be identical output for you if you had it.[7:26]* monkers (~james2@unaffiliated/monkeypaws) has joined #raspberrypi[7:26]* PiBot sets mode +v monkers[7:26]<Opinie> Etherael: but that's the output my instructions tell me I should be getting...[7:26]<Opinie> I mean in linux at elast[7:27]<Etherael> Opinie: Yep, so imagine that you are.[7:27]<Opinie> *least[7:27]<Opinie> ok[7:27]<monkers> hello... i'm guessin im the 1000th person to ask but - anyone know of a US reseller for raspberry pi that has them in stock? I want to grab one for a robot im making.[7:27]* halfhalo (halfhalo@nasadmin/webteam/halfhalo) Quit (Excess Flood)[7:27]* ka6sox-away is now known as ka6sox[7:27]* halfhalo (halfhalo@nasadmin/webteam/halfhalo) has joined #raspberrypi[7:27]* PiBot sets mode +v halfhalo[7:31]* monkers pokes the channel[7:31]* CelticTurnip pops[7:32]<monkers> are the resellers all out of stock? :([7:32]<ackthet> probably not[7:32]<ackthet> depends where you live[7:32]<mrhobbz> pretty sure mcm electronics has them in stock[7:33]<mrhobbz> i was just at their retail store a couple days ago and they had stock still[7:33]<Opinie> Etherael: these are the instructions I'm looking at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOzRCBGDVaE I'm currently trying out this command, it's now "waiting for x server to begin accepting connections"??? any idea what I should do?[7:33]<Opinie> Etherael: sorry, this is the actual command: startx -- /usr/bin/Xdmx :1 +xinerama -display :0.0 -display localhost:10.0 -norender -noglxproxy[7:33]<monkers> thanks mrhobbz[7:33]<monkers> ~[7:33]<monkers> ![7:33]<mrhobbz> np[7:33]<Etherael> startx is a call to actually start the X server, since you already have it running, it doesn't apply to you.[7:34]<Opinie> oh[7:34]<Etherael> The rest I'm not sure how to parse[7:34]<Etherael> I think it's trying to multiplex a display on the local machine for :10 and :0 ?[7:34]<Etherael> do you have two local X servers running?[7:34]<monkers> mrhobbz - On Backorder (Expected in 9998 days) ;P[7:34]<shiftplusone> Hmm... some microsoft guy is going to try to run windows comapct 7 on pi[7:34]* Pickley (~Pickley@203.160.127.176) Quit (Quit: Pickley)[7:35]<mrhobbz> doh[7:35]<mrhobbz> that sucks[7:35]<Opinie> Etherael: I don't know[7:35]<mrhobbz> i just picked up 3 of them from them last week[7:35]<monkers> got an extra you dont need? ^.^[7:35]<monkers> hehe jk.[7:35]<Etherael> Opinie: Does the video need sound? I'm in a quiet environment and can't listen to it..[7:35]<monkers> well rats.[7:36]<Opinie> nope, you don't even have to watch the video[7:36]<Opinie> the commands are in the "info" section below[7:36]<Etherael> I'll have a look h5.[7:37]* jthunder (~jthunder@174.3.126.51) has joined #raspberrypi[7:37]* PiBot sets mode +v jthunder[7:38]<Etherael> Opinie: So is your Mac system the client or the server?[7:38]<Etherael> ie are you sshing to it or from it?[7:38]<Opinie> ssh'ing to it[7:39]* thomashunter (~thomashun@c-67-167-132-241.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: thomashunter)[7:39]<Etherael> and you have xdmx installed on the mac?[7:39]<Opinie> well I installed xorg-libdmx with macports, which is supposed to be the same thing, supposedly[7:39]<Etherael> and you ssh'd into the mac from the pi with ssh -X -c cipher user@mac ?[7:40]<Etherael> running "which Xdmx" on the mac gives what?[7:41]* Pickley (~Pickley@203.160.127.176) has joined #raspberrypi[7:41]* PiBot sets mode +v Pickley[7:41]<Opinie> I actually tried to do this ssh -X -c blowfish-cbc user@maincomputer[7:41]<Opinie> Etherael: "which Xdmx" what what?[7:42]<Etherael> Opinie: run that on the mac and tell me what it says please[7:42]<Etherael> you don't want to do user@maincomputer unless your mac is actually called maincomputer and the user you want to login is actually called user.[7:43]<Etherael> it's probably more something like ssh -X -c blowfish-cbc opinie@192.168.1.100 (or whatever the ip address of your mac is)[7:43]<Opinie> Etherael: it actually says X22 forwarding request failed on channel 0[7:44]<Opinie> x11[7:44]<Opinie> I mean[7:44]<Etherael> Opinie: ok, that's helpful, it means you can't forward X over your ssh connection, which means you can't run XDMX on the mac and get a display on the pi, which kind of breaks your entire setup.[7:44]<Etherael> as for why you can't do that, I'm not sure..[7:45]<Opinie> ah[7:45]<Etherael> maybe there's some mac trick to making it forward X11 connections via ssh properly?[7:45]<Opinie> I'll look into that[7:46]* Pickley (~Pickley@203.160.127.176) Quit (Quit: Pickley)[7:47]<Opinie> Etherael: ok, i fixed that[7:47]<Opinie> I no longer get it[7:47]<Opinie> when logging in[7:47]* ReggieUK (~ReggieUK@5aca5630.bb.sky.com) Quit ()[7:48]<Opinie> and X11 forwarding is now allowed[7:49]<Opinie> Etherael: also, now when I type this export |grep DISP[7:49]<Opinie> I get what you said you got[7:50]* nerxgas (~adlhja@76-14-164-154.wsac.wavecable.com) has joined #raspberrypi[7:50]* PiBot sets mode +v nerxgas[7:50]<Etherael> hmm, do you have xterm installed on the mac? or some kind of other x program you can verify forwards properly?[7:50]<Etherael> say xeyes?[7:51]<Etherael> if you run it in that ssh session, that output should pop up on your pi[7:51]<Opinie> when I open xquartz that opens a command line that says xterm[7:52]<Etherael> On the pi?[7:52]<Opinie> umm, no I just meant when I open it up on the mac[7:55]<Etherael> if you run xterm in the ssh session or xeyes in the ssh session, what happens?[7:56]<Opinie> I get a pair of eyes O.o[7:56]<Opinie> with xeyes[7:56]<Etherael> on the pi?[7:56]<Opinie> yeah[7:56]<Opinie> with xterm[7:56]<Etherael> ok, that's good, that means the x11 forwarding is actually working.[7:56]<Opinie> I get a xterm command line window[7:56]<Etherael> echo $DISPLAY in the ssh session?[7:57]<nerxgas> when can i run windows8 on my pi?[7:57]<Opinie> localhost:10.0[7:58]<Etherael> ok, so you have a display running on :10.0 which represents your pi and one running on :0 which represents your mac, I guess now as long as you have xdmx you should be able to mux them.[7:58]* Jeffsi (~Jeffsi@64.211.118.248) has joined #raspberrypi[7:58]* PiBot sets mode +v Jeffsi[7:59]* Jeffsi (~Jeffsi@64.211.118.248) Quit (Client Quit)[7:59]<Etherael> try "/usr/bin/Xdmx :1 +xinerama -display :0.0 -display localhost:10.0 -norender -noglxproxy"[7:59]<Etherael> in the ssh session[8:01]<Opinie> right, the problem is xdmx[8:01]<Opinie> no such file or directory[8:01]* cccy_RegeaneWolf is now known as cccyRegeaneWolfe[8:08]* thesquib (~thesquib@120.136.2.150) Quit (Quit: thesquib)[8:11]* kcj (~casey@unaffiliated/kcj) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[8:11]* mrmoney2012 (~mrmoney20@b0fc0d5c.bb.sky.com) has joined #raspberrypi[8:11]* PiBot sets mode +v mrmoney2012[8:12]<Opinie> Etherael: ok, now I'm getting an odd login screen on my mac to which I don't know what to enter[8:12]<Etherael> What does it look like?[8:12]<Opinie> I think it's an X11 login screen[8:12]<Opinie> or something[8:13]<Etherael> Try your mac username / password.[8:13]<Etherael> I think it's unlikely to be your pi trying to ask you to login.[8:13]<Etherael> but even if it is, just try your pi username / password next I guess?[8:13]<Opinie> yeah it says welcome to my-mac's-name.local[8:14]<Opinie> yeah no idea what to enter even as login[8:15]<Opinie> I tried the name with which I ssh'd[8:15]<Etherael> which would be a mac login[8:16]<Opinie> yeah[8:16]<Opinie> a mac login[8:16]<Opinie> http://imgur.com/rg0nB[8:16]<Opinie> that's the login[8:17]* Quietlyawesome94 (~chatzilla@adsl-074-184-089-183.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120722203403])[8:17]<Opinie> hmm[8:17]<Etherael> did the mac login work?[8:17]<Opinie> nope[8:17]<Etherael> and yes, that's a normal X login.[8:18]<Etherael> Try a pi account then?[8:18]<Opinie> login still incorrect[8:19]<Etherael> I have no idea then[8:27]* nerxgas (~adlhja@76-14-164-154.wsac.wavecable.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[8:27]* Etherael (~etherael@node-cho.pool-125-24.dynamic.totbb.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[8:28]* oldtopman (~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman) Quit (Quit: *pouf*)[8:30]* home (~home@unaffiliated/home) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[8:30]<mrmoney2012> i have a pi which i run headless and command line - is there a way to remove a lot of the GUI stuff to reclaim space ? I don't need it - raspbian wheezy on 4 gig card ??? bit tight on space[8:32]<dr_willis> apt-get remove what you dontwant[8:32]<dr_willis> i thought ive seen some 'headless' focused pi distros also when web surfing yesterday[8:32]* Spiffy (~Spiffy@unaffiliated/spiffy) has joined #raspberrypi[8:32]* PiBot sets mode +v Spiffy[8:38]* jimerickson (~jimericks@pdpc/supporter/active/jimerickson) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[8:38]<mrmoney2012> ok, thanks - bit concerned i knock out something important[8:38]<mrmoney2012> or simplet solution for next time - use a bigger card ![8:40]* jthunder (~jthunder@174.3.126.51) Quit (Quit: jthunder)[8:44]<dr_willis> got a 32gb for $20 the other day[8:44]<dr_willis> wife keeps taking them.. ;P[8:47]* nerxgas (~adga@76-14-164-154.wsac.wavecable.com) has joined #raspberrypi[8:47]* PiBot sets mode +v nerxgas[8:47]<CelticTurnip> mrmoney2012: or you could just grab one of the minimal installs :)[8:48]<CelticTurnip> mrmoney2012: http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/07/31/84-mb-minimal-raspbian-armhf-image-for-raspberry-pi/[8:48]<CelticTurnip> that should give you an idea what to remove[8:48]<mrmoney2012> thanks...[8:49]<mrmoney2012> i kind of trust the images off the official site most[8:49]<mrmoney2012> be nice if they had a minimal image listed[8:50]<mrmoney2012> yes my 32 gig went to my sister with a large ext4 partition on it for local media ![8:50]<mrmoney2012> don't suppose I'll be seeing it again any time soon[8:51]<mrmoney2012> CelticTurnip: that's a good link![8:51]<mrmoney2012> CelticTurnip: so if i do stuff like sudo apt-get remove x11-common midori lxde python3 python3-minimal # should work out fine??? won't break too much[8:51]<CelticTurnip> nope[8:51]<mrmoney2012> or anything hopefully...[8:52]<CelticTurnip> Debian has many years of testing behind it :)[8:52]<mrmoney2012> i need python around actually - wiringpi and gpio stuff[8:52]<mrmoney2012> but ok - i get the jist of it[8:52]<mrmoney2012> i can pick and choose[8:53]<CelticTurnip> exactly :)[8:54]<mrmoney2012> ta[8:55]<dr_willis> hmm. i cant find 'scratch' for my android phone. ;P[8:56]<mrmoney2012> CelticTurnip: that link has gone on my email http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/07/31/84-mb-minimal-raspbian-armhf-image-for-raspberry-pi/ I will ssh in from work next week and "prune" some stuff???. learned to create backup "dd" images this weekend??? that'll help[8:58]<CelticTurnip> mrmoney2012: have you generated a customer ssh key yet? if not... rm /etc/ssh/ssh_host_* && dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server[8:58]<CelticTurnip> custom... even :)[8:59]<mrmoney2012> for extra security ? rather than username and password ?[9:00]<CelticTurnip> nah, all the raspian images have the same ssh key.... it's a security issue if anything[9:00]<CelticTurnip> just generate a new random 1 :)[9:00]* Spiffy (~Spiffy@unaffiliated/spiffy) Quit (Quit: Very funny Scotty, NOW BEAM DOWN MY CLOTHES!)[9:00]<mrmoney2012> i change the password for user pi on first boot - enough ?[9:01]<mrmoney2012> as I know they all ship with the same[9:01]<CelticTurnip> ssh allows access via keys, so not really :)[9:01]<CelticTurnip> it's your machine, but for the sake of 10 seconds you can be heaps safer online :)[9:03]<mrmoney2012> ok, thanks[9:03]<CelticTurnip> personally I delete the default user account, changed my key, and started from there :)[9:04]* Yotson (~yot@2001:980:6ac8:1:74a2:91ea:9d86:6c18) has joined #raspberrypi[9:04]* PiBot sets mode +v Yotson[9:04]* DarkTherapy (~DarkThera@adsl-213-249-218-249.karoo.kcom.com) has joined #raspberrypi[9:04]* PiBot sets mode +v DarkTherapy[9:06]* bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) has joined #raspberrypi[9:06]* PiBot sets mode +v bertrik[9:07]<mrmoney2012> gotta shoot - thanks for tips - later.[9:07]* mrmoney2012 (~mrmoney20@b0fc0d5c.bb.sky.com) Quit (Quit: .)[9:09]<dr_willis> i thought if there was not a key. it would generate one the firdt tim e ssh ran.. but i guess with a 'image' its allready ran[9:09]* Spiffy (~Spiffy@unaffiliated/spiffy) has joined #raspberrypi[9:09]* PiBot sets mode +v Spiffy[9:10]<CelticTurnip> correct[9:11]<CelticTurnip> the key is meant to be generated the first time the OS boots, but like you said these are images :)[9:12]<dr_willis> but the images i try do have a first run type wizard. ;) so it may be good suggestion to add that feature to the wizard perhaps[9:13]<CelticTurnip> exactly[9:13]<mrhobbz> if using raspbian you can also just use the network installer[9:13]<dr_willis> ive been testing openelec - so its not a issue for me right now[9:14]<dr_willis> havent tried anything other then openelec and raspbian . only had my pi for 2 days[9:14]<CelticTurnip> IMO they should remove the default user, just have root and a script the runs at first boot forcing you enter a new root password, create a user, and generate ssh keys... but hey that's just me :)[9:14]* ka6sox is now known as ka6sox-away[9:18]<dr_willis> hmm.. a 5inch hdmi monitor using the same 'e-ink' in my kindle reader... would make a neat monitor for a pi.....[9:18]<dr_willis> just sat my kindle down next to my pi and thought about that...[9:19]* kcj (~casey@unaffiliated/kcj) has joined #raspberrypi[9:19]* PiBot sets mode +v kcj[9:20]* Alfihar (~Yuuka@siberios.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[9:20]* PiBot sets mode +v Alfihar[9:21]* CelticTurnip (~celt@unaffiliated/celticturnip) Quit (Quit: night all)[9:21]* Opinie (~Opinie@pc-184-130.cable.aina.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[9:21]<steve_rox> i want e ink display[9:22]<steve_rox> they seem fun[9:22]<dr_willis> i saw a android phone prototype with a normal display on the front and an e-ink on the back[9:22]* Opinie (~Opinie@pc-184-130.cable.aina.net) has joined #raspberrypi[9:22]* PiBot sets mode +v Opinie[9:23]<dr_willis> my wife cant even find me a kindle papewhite for xmas. ;)[9:23]* thesquib (~thesquib@120.136.2.150) has joined #raspberrypi[9:23]* PiBot sets mode +v thesquib[9:23]<steve_rox> wonder if e ink displays will become more common in time[9:24]<dr_willis> another idea... seen those wii-U controllers? ;) wonder if a pi could fit in one...[9:24]<steve_rox> and not stupidly expensive[9:24]* ahven (~kala@194.126.113.140) has joined #raspberrypi[9:24]* PiBot sets mode +v ahven[9:24]<bertrik> I remember seeing an inexpensive e-ink module somewhere, if only I could remember where[9:24]<steve_rox> probly could[9:25]<dr_willis> i remember years ago when the e-ink was a big 'in the future ....' type artical in pop-sci and other mags[9:25]* martk100 (~martin@host-2-103-173-43.as13285.net) has joined #raspberrypi[9:25]* PiBot sets mode +v martk100[9:25]* Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky[9:25]<dr_willis> that paperwhite does look nice.[9:25]<steve_rox> i rember getting somewhat exsited by blueray for its file storage only to see sony kill it with licenceing and all that[9:26]<dr_willis> reading these magpi pdfs on my kindel right now.. its not great for them[9:26]<martk100> Has anyone any idea when a workable version of android will be available for the pi?[9:27]* DarkTherapy (~DarkThera@adsl-213-249-218-249.karoo.kcom.com) Quit ()[9:28]* stardiviner (~stardivin@122.236.242.237) has joined #raspberrypi[9:28]* PiBot sets mode +v stardiviner[9:28]<steve_rox> im still strugging to give my pi a primary purpose[9:29]<steve_rox> the fm radio transmitter was kinda cool[9:29]<steve_rox> i did have a dgen emulator on it but one day the sound suddenly stopped which was fun[9:32]* humanpopsicle (~AndChat33@ppp-70-130-44-216.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net) Quit (Quit: Bye)[9:35]* Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk[9:37]* martk100 (~martin@host-2-103-173-43.as13285.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[9:39]* pretty_function (~sigBART@123.252.214.136) has joined #raspberrypi[9:39]* PiBot sets mode +v pretty_function[9:44]* thesquib (~thesquib@120.136.2.150) Quit (Quit: thesquib)[9:47]* thermal (~thermal@unaffiliated/thermal) has joined #raspberrypi[9:47]* PiBot sets mode +v thermal[9:48]<monkers> Herro?[9:49]* TAFB_zzz is now known as TAFB[9:51]<monkers> Does anyone know where i can buy a raspberry pi in the US without waiting for restocking?[9:52]<TAFB> yep, but it'll cost ya $$[9:52]<monkers> hrm.. like wher?[9:53]<dr_willis> ebay. - black market[9:53]<TAFB> plz wait for link... sry, my machine is encoding 1080p video and bein slow.[9:53]<dr_willis> i just had to wait like 5 mo. for mine, ;)[9:53]<TAFB> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/321032143229[9:54]<monkers> gah >_<[9:54]<TAFB> i bought one from him, got it in 3 days :)[9:54]<monkers> highway robbery! lol[9:54]<TAFB> for sure[9:54]<dr_willis> i ordered 2.. should have ordered 5...[9:54]<TAFB> dr_willis: me too, all my friends think I'm getting them one for christmas. lol.[9:55]* pretty_function (~sigBART@123.252.214.136) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[9:56]<monkers> i feel like i shouldnt buy that out of principle.[9:56]<TAFB> monkers: I know, it entirely defeats the purpose of the Pi :([9:56]<TAFB> but hey, that plus a fancy case and you'll be $150 into your Pi ;) go big or go home :)[9:57]<TAFB> fancy case : http://www.ebay.ca/itm/110984616925[9:57]<TAFB> how it looks on my pi: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-13-RaspberryPi_new_aluminum_case_heatsink.jpg[9:58]<TAFB> how cool it keeps my Pi running: http://toysareforboys.no-ip.info:8000/[9:58]<monkers> We are pleased to announce that the Raspberry Pi Model B with 512MB RAM is now available.[9:58]<monkers> Order today, delivery within 1 week. - element 14[9:58]<TAFB> monkers: lol[9:58]<monkers> huh?[9:59]<TAFB> monkers: google "element14 delayed Pi". I think they are saying one week to people get their hopes up for christmas :( don't count on it until the end of Jan.[9:59]<monkers> ohhh[10:00]<TAFB> unless someone has physical stock, in their hands (like the entire SKID of Pi's that ebay has :( ) then don't believe anyone when they tell you "there'll be here any day"[10:01]<dr_willis> i saw a whole stack of WII-U's today.. but cant get a pi.. ;)[10:01]<TAFB> dr_willis: lol. 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I tried \$ but it still doesn't work :( <?php echo shell_exec('ps -e -orss=,args= | sort -b -k1,1nr | pr -TW$COLUMNS | head'); ?>[10:25]* mrmoney2012 (~mrmoney20@b0fc0d5c.bb.sky.com) has joined #raspberrypi[10:25]* PiBot sets mode +v mrmoney2012[10:26]<mrmoney2012> any clues why i might see this when playing sounds connect-debounce failed, port 3 disabled[10:29]<mrmoney2012> i'm thinking power??? the pi has good power supply but a temp sensor on 3.3v and rf transmitter on 3.3v GPIO pins??? then usb webcam and usb sound card connected via powered usb hub[10:32]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[10:33]* mrmoney2012 (~mrmoney20@b0fc0d5c.bb.sky.com) Quit (Quit: mrmoney2012)[10:33]* cyclick (~user@unaffiliated/cyclick) has joined #raspberrypi[10:33]* PiBot sets mode +v cyclick[10:36]* Weaselweb (~quassel@77-64-181-50.dynamic.primacom.net) has joined #raspberrypi[10:36]* PiBot sets mode +v Weaselweb[10:37]* cyclick2 (~user@unaffiliated/cyclick) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[10:38]* brantje (brantje@188-142-48-93.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl) has joined #raspberrypi[10:38]* PiBot sets mode +v brantje[10:38]<brantje> Hello,[10:38]<brantje> Can i send video through HDMI and RCA?[10:38]<TAFB> no, one or the other[10:39]* i42n (~i42n@dslb-188-104-208-063.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #raspberrypi[10:39]* PiBot sets mode +v i42n[10:44]* redarrow_ (~quassel@unaffiliated/redarrow) has joined #raspberrypi[10:44]* PiBot sets mode +v redarrow_[10:44]* xCP23x (~xCP23x@2.25.250.161) has joined #raspberrypi[10:44]* PiBot sets mode +v xCP23x[10:46]<odin_> anyone know/have a like to RPi approved logos of all shapes and sizes ?[10:46]<odin_> a LINK![10:46]<TAFB> odin_: they're on the rasberry foundation page, one sec for link[10:46]* Milos|Netbook (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:46]<TAFB> they are MONSTER png's though :([10:47]<odin_> any SVG ?[10:47]<TAFB> some eps i think[10:47]<odin_> that'll do, I see a /wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Raspi_Colour_R.png but want vector is I need to modify to size[10:47]<TAFB> http://www.raspberrypi.org/trademark-rules[10:48]<TAFB> start there, but one sec for more[10:49]* xCP23x (~xCP23x@2.25.250.161) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[10:51]<TAFB> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cb/Raspberry_Pi_Logo.svg[10:51]<TAFB> let me know if that works for ya[10:51]<gordonDrogon> morning Peepers.[10:51]<TAFB> mornin gordonDrogon[10:51]<TAFB> gordonDrogon: you any good with php?[10:51]<gordonDrogon> Yes...[10:51]<TAFB> woot[10:52]* Holden (~holden@unaffiliated/holdenc) has joined #raspberrypi[10:52]* PiBot sets mode +v Holden[10:52]<gordonDrogon> I don't do any OO stuff though.[10:52]<TAFB> I'm having a problem using $ in a shell exec command.[10:52]<gordonDrogon> you want to pass a $ sign into the command?[10:52]* luigy (~luigy@pool-108-50-173-45.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #raspberrypi[10:52]* PiBot sets mode +v luigy[10:52]<TAFB> yep[10:52]<TAFB> and \$ ain't workin[10:52]<odin_> hmm that is off wikimedia website not raspberrypi.org is there no logos pages on official site ?[10:52]* halfhalo (halfhalo@nasadmin/webteam/halfhalo) Quit (Excess Flood)[10:52]<TAFB> tried it in " quotes and ' quotes[10:52]<gordonDrogon> Hm. perhaps the shell is picking it up.[10:53]<TAFB> odin_: If you google, you'll find that image was uploaded by Raspberry Pi foundation, and you can click for cridentials.[10:53]<TAFB> gordonDrogon: yeah, I tried everything, can't get it workin. here is the command the way it came, supposed to work:[10:53]<odin_> surely I need to legally prove the logo is endorsed and surely it is much better to provide vector drawning than a large (not even huge) PNG[10:53]<gordonDrogon> system ("echo \$ dollar") ;[10:53]* halfhalo (halfhalo@nasadmin/webteam/halfhalo) has joined #raspberrypi[10:53]* PiBot sets mode +v halfhalo[10:54]<gordonDrogon> $ dollar[10:54]<TAFB> <?php echo "ps -e -orss=,args= | sort -b -k1,1nr | pr -TW\$COLUMNS | head" ?>[10:54]<odin_> that is still no provable, just presumption/good faith[10:54]<TAFB> yep, works when I just eco strongs[10:54]<TAFB> but not when I shell exec[10:54]<odin_> just because the wikipedia account ID says "raspberrypi" doesn't mean anyone in charge owns it[10:55]<TAFB> odin_: it's not just account, they have image accredation or whatever, I'll try and find the link[10:55]<gordonDrogon> won't $COLUMNS be evaluated as a shell variable at that point?[10:55]<odin_> I mean legally it is much better a page on their own website and wikipedia references as the source[10:55]<odin_> but having wikipedia as the source is legal nonsense[10:56]<TAFB> gordonDrogon: maybe, I'm new :( when I put that command in putty, it spits out perfect out text, but in exec no go[10:56]<gordonDrogon> yes, if I run that, I only get: pr -TW[10:56]<TAFB> lol :([10:56]<TAFB> if I put this in putty: ps -e -orss=,args= | sort -b -k1,1nr | pr -TW\$COLUMNS | head[10:56]<gordonDrogon> gordon @ unicorn: setenv COLUMNS foo[10:56]<gordonDrogon> gordon @ unicorn: php test.ph[10:56]<gordonDrogon> pr -TWfoo[10:57]<TAFB> works peachy, how cam I can't use it in php/exec :([10:57]* redarrow_ (~quassel@unaffiliated/redarrow) Quit (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.)[10:57]<odin_> also the SVG is obviously different to the PNG there is no (R) part[10:57]<gordonDrogon> why not just use the PNG?[10:58]* redarrow (~quassel@unaffiliated/redarrow) has joined #raspberrypi[10:58]* PiBot sets mode +v redarrow[10:58]<TAFB> odin_: could be, search the filename in good, check out the wiki page.[10:58]<gordonDrogon> it's years since I've used pr :)[10:58]<odin_> that will be the case is there is no other option, I was asking if there was a page of logos of all shapes and sizes (and maybe a vector file)[10:58]<TAFB> gordonDrogon, no doubt :)[10:58]<Opinie> so, um, no one knows how to set up virtual dual monitor using vnc, right?[10:59]<TAFB> on a PC as the source?[10:59]<gordonDrogon> ah, is COLUMNS a php variable you want to pass to pr ?[10:59]<TAFB> gordonDrogon: I don't think so. If I go to the shell and run this command: ps -e -orss=,args= | sort -b -k1,1nr | pr -TW\$COLUMNS | head[10:59]<Opinie> TAFB: I'd like Pi to share the monitor connected to it[10:59]<TAFB> it spits out 10/11 lines of perfect text.[10:59]* swecide (~swecide@78-73-97-202-no169.tbcn.telia.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[10:59]<TAFB> I just want to get that to spit out in php :([11:00]<gordonDrogon> ok - the -W flag says take tne next arg as the page width.[11:00]* nerxgas (~adga@76-14-164-154.wsac.wavecable.com) Quit (Quit: nerxgas)[11:00]<gordonDrogon> so $COLUMNS shoudl be set to something.[11:00]<TAFB> gordonDrogon: sorry, was this command: ps -e -orss=,args= | sort -b -k1,1nr | pr -TW$COLUMNS | head[11:00]<TAFB> no \ before $COLUMNS[11:01]<gordonDrogon> right - so that requiresthat $COLUMNS is an environment variable.[11:01]* luigy (~luigy@pool-108-50-173-45.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[11:01]<TAFB> ahhh[11:01]<TAFB> have not used/read up on evironment variables[11:01]<gordonDrogon> I think I'd just change the php to look like:[11:01]<gordonDrogon> <?php echo "ps -e -orss=,args= | sort -b -k1,1nr | pr -TW78 | head" ?>[11:02]<TAFB> ok, I'll try it :)[11:02]* Milos (Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:02]<TAFB> I think it worked, wtf?! :)[11:02]<TAFB> lol[11:03]<gordonDrogon> so your sorting on process size?[11:04]<TAFB> yeah, "top 10 memory hogs"[11:04]* gordonDrogon nods.[11:04]* pa (~pa@unaffiliated/pa) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[11:05]<TAFB> who are your memory hogs? :)[11:05]<gordonDrogon> hehe... depends on which server I pick![11:06]* fayimora_ (~fayimora@host86-140-213-90.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Quit: fayimora_)[11:06]* Yotson (~yot@2001:980:6ac8:1:74a2:91ea:9d86:6c18) Quit (Quit: ahum.)[11:06]<TAFB> gordonDrogon: OMG IT WORKS! Check out under memory usage "memory hogs"! http://toysareforboys.no-ip.info:8000/[11:07]<TAFB> thanks so much :)[11:07]<gordonDrogon> Hm. top 4 on my desktop: Firefox (1G), OpenShot(250MB), X(170MB), skype (97MB), xchat (20MG)[11:07]<TAFB> firefox 1g? yikes! :) lol[11:07]<TAFB> ohhhh, not on your Pi :)[11:07]<TAFB> i see[11:07]<gordonDrogon> looks like it :)[11:07]* swecide (~swecide@78-73-97-202-no169.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[11:08]* PiBot sets mode +v swecide[11:08]<gordonDrogon> no, not my my Pi's...[11:08]<TAFB> gordonDrogon: On my Pi, "network manager" was using up a ton of ram :( I sudo RM'd it and my Pi still works, and has lots more free ram :)[11:08]<gordonDrogon> don't have anything big running on my Pi's right now, so nothing exciting to show :)[11:09]<gordonDrogon> yea, network manager is really only good on laptops as far as I can tell.[11:09]<gordonDrogon> even then, I use Wicd myself.[11:09]<TAFB> yeah, from google looks like it's for WiFi? this pi is hard wired so should be ok i guess[11:09]<gordonDrogon> if you don't need dhcp, then you can dump all that too.[11:09]<gordonDrogon> and remove portmap.[11:10]<gordonDrogon> if you want to 'tune' it, there's lots you can remove to save a bit of precious RAM and SD space.[11:10]<TAFB> lol :) you're crazy. They don't show up on my "top10" list, so they are off my radar for now ;)[11:10]<gordonDrogon> even things like console-kit irritate me, but I'm a shade OCD on efficiency like that :)[11:10]<TAFB> sd space I have tons of (see stats page), free memory I got lots too (see stats page), just wanted to get it reasonably clean :)[11:11]<TAFB> rofl :)[11:11]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[11:11]* PiBot sets mode +v piers12345[11:11]* fayimora (~fayimora@host86-140-213-90.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) has joined #raspberrypi[11:11]* PiBot sets mode +v fayimora[11:11]<gordonDrogon> you can dump rsyslogd too unless you really need all those logs.[11:11]<TAFB> logs are good, i'm noob[11:12]<gordonDrogon> when was the last time you looked in /var/log ;-)[11:12]<TAFB> recently, to find out why quake3 was rebooting my Pi?[11:13]<gordonDrogon> ah well, there is that, I guess![11:13]<TAFB> lol :)[11:13]<TAFB> should be playing quake3 on my web/e-mail server anyway ;)[11:13]* tdy (~tdy@unaffiliated/tdy) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[11:13]<TAFB> shouldn't[11:13]<TAFB> i mean[11:14]<gordonDrogon> I've never played quake3 (or any other quake for that matter).[11:14]<gordonDrogon> last FPS thingys I played were Doom II, Hexen and Heretic ...[11:14]<TAFB> the Pi runs it's great. wanna see me kick by but kicked in youtube video?[11:14]<gordonDrogon> maybe Dungeon keeper sort of counts..[11:15]<TAFB> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTY_ch2qNII[11:15]<odin_> ok the design is the black/white part without "(R)" bit... http://esearch.oami.europa.eu/copla/applicant/data/506753#[11:15]<hnsr> I buoght dungeon keeper the other day[11:15]<hnsr> for a few bucks[11:15]<TAFB> crysis3: made me play video games again[11:15]<hnsr> nostalgia keeps making me buy these old games :|[11:15]<gordonDrogon> is that runnong on a Pi?[11:16]<TAFB> gordonDrogon :) yep![11:16]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:16]<TAFB> quake3[11:16]<TAFB> not crysis3[11:16]<TAFB> lol[11:16]<TAFB> crysis3 barely plays on my i7 with 32gb ram and dual graphics cards :([11:16]<gordonDrogon> well looks sort of fun, I guess :)[11:16]* thesquib (~thesquib@120.136.2.150) Quit (Quit: thesquib)[11:16]* wiiguy (~fake@unaffiliated/wiiguy) has joined #raspberrypi[11:16]* PiBot sets mode +v wiiguy[11:16]<TAFB> it's old school game, from like 2000 :)[11:17]* pa (~pa@unaffiliated/pa) has joined #raspberrypi[11:17]* PiBot sets mode +v pa[11:17]<gordonDrogon> I can't run dungeon keeper anymore though.[11:17]<mrhobbz> crysis 3 is out?[11:17]<TAFB> my fav part is at 2:00 in the vid, I shoot a rocket and she kills me with the plazma gun then my rocket eplodes her[11:17]<gordonDrogon> actually, it might run under Win XP - I've not tried. I have a laptop dual-boot XP/Linux.[11:17]<TAFB> mrhobbz: on kat.ph it is at least[11:17]<hnsr> gordonDrogon, it might run on *nix under dosbox[11:18]<gordonDrogon> hnsr, maybe when I have a spare day :)[11:18]<hnsr> gordonDrogon, in fact I suspect that's what gog.com (where I bought it) is using under the hood[11:18]<hnsr> had some fun with dosbox some time ago, trying out all those old dos games :)[11:18]<gordonDrogon> Hm.[11:19]<TAFB> yay! all my video encoding/render jobs are done! my speed is back! woot[11:19]* cccyRegeaneWolfe is now known as cccy_RegeaneWolf[11:19]<gordonDrogon> Play snake... http://unicorn.drogon.net/snake.rtb[11:19]<gordonDrogon> you'll need my BASIC interperter to run it though :)[11:19]<TAFB> what's rtb file?[11:19]<gordonDrogon> Return to Basic.[11:20]<TAFB> ahhh. I have qbasic around somewhere :)[11:20]<gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/return-to-basic/[11:20]<gordonDrogon> I wrote a basic interperter at the start of the year - didn't originally intend it for the Pi, but it runs very well on it.[11:21]<TAFB> 110 baud? yikes. When I started I thought 9600 was bad :([11:21]* cccy_RegeaneWolf is now known as cccyRegeaneWolfe[11:21]<gordonDrogon> yea, 10 characters/second.. You really didn't want to make mistakes![11:21]<TAFB> lol[11:22]<TAFB> did you ever use a program called telix?[11:22]<gordonDrogon> no.[11:23]<TAFB> ahh. was dos communication program, supported ansi graphics (for bbs's and the like([11:23]<gordonDrogon> I never ran DOS.[11:23]<gordonDrogon> Actually, I did use DOS for a short while once.[11:23]<gordonDrogon> but it was a sort of stop-gap between Unixes...[11:24]<mrhobbz> crap it's almost 5:30am here[11:24]<gordonDrogon> I used Unix a long time back, then sort of degenerated via other things for a while - lots of cp/m, BBC Micros, etc.[11:24]<mrhobbz> i should probably goto bed so i can put my car back together tomorrow[11:24]<gordonDrogon> mrhobbz, good idea :)[11:25]<TAFB> where are you mrhobbz? almost 5:30am here too (toronto, ontario, kanada)[11:25]<mrhobbz> Ohio[11:25]<gordonDrogon> 10:25am in sunny (for a change) Devon, UK.[11:25]<TAFB> I bought a car in Dayton, Ohio once :)[11:26]* Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky[11:26]<mrhobbz> i need to go pick up a DD, turbo mustang in the snow is going to blow[11:26]<TAFB> was this one: http://ecuflashking.com/pics/jamie%27sfiero.jpg[11:26]<TAFB> lol[11:26]<gordonDrogon> well, sunday morning here. first coffee done, now some domestic stuff to do.[11:26]<TAFB> keep it out of boost and you'll be ok ;)[11:26]<TAFB> rwd ftw[11:27]<mrhobbz> not unless i buy tires lol[11:27]<TAFB> lol, snow tires are a must on a mustang :)[11:27]<Opinie> sorry to repeat myself, but does anyone really know how to share the monitor connected to the pi via VNC? in other words, how to vnc to display :0[11:27]<TAFB> x11vnc[11:27]<mrhobbz> ^[11:27]<TAFB> will take you to the Pi's real display[11:28]<TAFB> I think you can make it attach to new displays/xsessions too, but my buddie uses tightvnc to do that.[11:28]<Opinie> TAFB: how?[11:28]<TAFB> Opinie: plz hold for link[11:28]<Opinie> yeah, thanks, really much appreciated.. I've been trying to set this up for hours without any luck[11:28]<TAFB> x11vnc: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=108862#p108862[11:29]<TAFB> USE THE FOLLOWING EXEC COMMAND ONLY:[11:29]<Joeboy> Apparently minicom is based on telix. Never ran telix myself though.[11:29]<mrhobbz> TAFB: running a set of nearly bald potenza pole positions at the moment lol[11:29]<TAFB> Exec=x11vnc -nevershared -forever -rfbport 5900 -usepw -display :0 -ultrafilexfer[11:29]<TAFB> mrhobbz: not good in the cold, especially in the snow ;)[11:30]<TAFB> Opinie: On your PC use UltraVNC to connect to the Pi, works sweet.[11:30]<TAFB> Opinie: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/RaspberryPi_VNC_desktop_wireless.png[11:31]<mrhobbz> definitely not,have been looking for a used subaru but they either A) have too many miles on them B) everyone wants too much or C) all of the above[11:31]<Opinie> TAFB: love you and want to have your children[11:31]<TAFB> Opinie: Sorry for not responding earlier, I didn't understand what you were trying to do[11:31]<Opinie> TAFB: ah, never mind ;-)[11:32]<Opinie> TAFB: that'll work with VNC viewers other than ultravnc right? I don't think ultravnc is available for mac os[11:32]<TAFB> Opinie: sure damn does[11:33]<TAFB> Opinie: If not using ultravnc leave off the -ultravncfilexfers switch off the end of the exec file.[11:33]<Opinie> ok[11:33]<TAFB> here is some rehersal footage I captured for the dog show guy :) www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmoH826dQ-4&hd=1[11:34]* kripton is now known as Kripton[11:34]* elyob (~textual@host86-136-175-106.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) has joined #raspberrypi[11:34]* PiBot sets mode +v elyob[11:35]* Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk[11:35]<mrhobbz> i need to get a power commander[11:35]<TAFB> mrhobbz: for a bike?[11:37]* Kane (~Kane@5.42.197.77.rev.sfr.net) has joined #raspberrypi[11:37]* PiBot sets mode +v Kane[11:37]<Kane> o/[11:37]<mrhobbz> yeah[11:38]<TAFB> mrhobbz: get the ECU flashed instead, 1000x better than a power commander :) which bike?[11:38]<mrhobbz> 02 meanstreak[11:38]<TAFB> mrhobbz: my bike http://ecuflashking.com/r1/2012-09-20-TMP_racer5_trackday/FirstTrackDay_Sept1stPics/Jamie9.jpg[11:39]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[11:39]* PiBot sets mode +v piers12345[11:39]<mrhobbz> http://mrhobbz.com/mustang/banner.jpg[11:39]<mrhobbz> only picture i have on hand atm[11:39]<TAFB> mrhobbz: never worked on your bike before, not sure if they have ECU flashes for it :)[11:39]<TAFB> if you get power commander are ya gonna get AutoTune for it?[11:39]<mrhobbz> not sure either, i haven't realy looked into it[11:40]<mrhobbz> probably not[11:40]<mrhobbz> unless i can't use one of my other widebands[11:40]<piers12345> Would people be interested in a program that is written in python and makes get-iplayer far easier to use?[11:40]<TAFB> autotune comes with a wide band O2 sensor that goes in the exhaust pipe, automatically tunes your bike for maximum power when on the throttle, maximum fuel efficiency when not, live, constantly while you ride![11:41]<TAFB> piers12345: never heard of iplayer :)[11:41]<mrhobbz> http://mrhobbz.com/mustang/garagework.jpg[11:41]<TAFB> purrdy[11:42]<piers12345> Tafb, its a video streaming service here in the uk. A bit like netflix or hulu. Except, its free and bbc only content[11:42]<mrhobbz> need my new short block :([11:42]<TAFB> piers12345: ahhh yes, I have heard people bitch lots about it.[11:42]* Holden (~holden@unaffiliated/holdenc) has left #raspberrypi[11:43]* dreamon_ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) Quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)[11:43]<Opinie> TAFB: is this supposed to turn out something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDOlqC9ZPTI ?[11:43]<piers12345> Haha. It can be a pain. Get-iplayer works by logging in as an iphone, then downloading the mp4 that the site provides. Ffmpeg then converts it to drm-free[11:43]<TAFB> Opinie: no. That's using the PC as the source, for doing dual monitors ON THE PC.[11:44]<Opinie> err[11:44]<Opinie> I'm pretty confused[11:44]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) Quit (Quit: piers12345)[11:44]<Opinie> so how would one do that?[11:44]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[11:44]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) Quit (Client Quit)[11:44]* chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) has joined #raspberrypi[11:44]* PiBot sets mode +v chris_99[11:44]<TAFB> piers12345: I see :) I love all your guys HD feeds from over there, SkyHD and Eurosport, you know those? Quality is sooo much better than the crap here in north america :)[11:45]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[11:45]* PiBot sets mode +v piers12345[11:45]<TAFB> Opinie: On your PC, when you install VNC (dunno which one, could try RealVNC), go into display properties, advanced settings, and you can set up fake 2nd monitor.[11:45]* dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) has joined #raspberrypi[11:45]* PiBot sets mode +v dreamon[11:45]<TAFB> you could then connect from your Pi, to your PC, and have dual monitors, with one running from the pi[11:45]<Opinie> so then I'd have dual monitor on the PC?[11:45]<TAFB> yep[11:46]<Opinie> ok[11:46]* kirin` (telex@gateway/shell/anapnea.net/x-vxqssktuziclmllz) has joined #raspberrypi[11:46]* PiBot sets mode +v kirin`[11:46]<TAFB> one super awesome monitor (your normal one), and one super slow crappy monitor (running through the pi)[11:46]<Opinie> TAFB: think using a mac would be a problem?[11:46]<TAFB> yep[11:46]<TAFB> for sure[11:46]<TAFB> virtual fake monitor only works on Windows iirc[11:47]<TAFB> I've never used a mac ever, so don't listen to me. I just got my first iDevice a few days ago, but only to slave it on my bike as a gps/track lap recorder :)[11:47]* dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[11:47]<piers12345> What idevice did u get?[11:47]<TAFB> took me 2 hours to get one app download and installed :) such a noob.[11:48]<TAFB> I got the iPod touch, 4th gen.[11:48]<TAFB> i can't remember how many gigs it's got :)[11:48]<piers12345> Fair enough. U know it doesnt have gps?[11:48]<mrhobbz> i think i'm going to mount these two pis in my desktop case[11:48]<TAFB> it has a ultra high accuracy gps thing that plugs in the bottom :)[11:48]<piers12345> Ah. Sounds good. I find mine quite useful for sshing into my pi[11:49]<TAFB> your iPod?!?![11:49]<piers12345> Yeah. If i just meed to check something quickly[11:49]<TAFB> it does have a super nice screen... hmmm :)[11:49]<TAFB> maybe I will use it for more than just on my motorcycle.[11:49]<piers12345> Try vssh lite[11:50]<TAFB> my friend crashed his bike with his brand new iPhone 5 doing the same task... you couldn't tell it was an Iphone after :([11:50]<mrhobbz> i wish i could find a good ssh client for android :\ connectbot kind of sucks[11:50]<TAFB> piers12345: thanks, I'll give er a go :)[11:50]<piers12345> Is vssh lite on android?[11:51]<mrhobbz> doesn't look like it[11:51]<piers12345> Ah. Bad luck then[11:52]* pa (~pa@unaffiliated/pa) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[11:53]* halfhalo (halfhalo@nasadmin/webteam/halfhalo) Quit (Excess Flood)[11:53]* halfhalo (halfhalo@nasadmin/webteam/halfhalo) has joined #raspberrypi[11:54]* PiBot sets mode +v halfhalo[11:54]* peetaur2 (~peter@hmbg-4d06e780.pool.mediaWays.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[11:56]* dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) has joined #raspberrypi[11:56]* PiBot sets mode +v dreamon[11:56]* peetaur2 (~peter@hmbg-4d06e780.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #raspberrypi[11:56]* PiBot sets mode +v peetaur2[11:58]* i42n (~i42n@dslb-188-104-208-063.pools.arcor-ip.net) Quit (Quit: i42n)[11:58]* m8 (~mor@unaffiliated/m8) has joined #raspberrypi[11:58]* PiBot sets mode +v m8[12:02]<piers12345> Is megaproxy online?[12:04]* AeroNotix (~xeno@aazw179.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) has joined #raspberrypi[12:04]* PiBot sets mode +v AeroNotix[12:07]* pa (~pa@unaffiliated/pa) has joined #raspberrypi[12:07]* PiBot sets mode +v pa[12:11]* [SLB] is now known as [SLB]`[12:13]* SgrA (~sgra@unaffiliated/sgra) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[12:14]* Aivaras (~aivaras@228.205.38.86.mobile.mezon.lt) has joined #raspberrypi[12:14]* PiBot sets mode +v Aivaras[12:14]* fayimora (~fayimora@host86-140-213-90.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Quit: fayimora)[12:14]* [SLB]` is now known as [SLB][12:15]* kcj (~casey@unaffiliated/kcj) Quit (Quit: kcj)[12:15]* i42n (~i42n@dslb-188-104-208-063.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #raspberrypi[12:15]* PiBot sets mode +v i42n[12:16]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[12:17]* fayimora (~fayimora@host86-140-213-90.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) has joined #raspberrypi[12:17]* PiBot sets mode +v fayimora[12:18]* Milos (Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) has joined #raspberrypi[12:18]* PiBot sets mode +v Milos[12:18]* MetalGearSolid (~MetalGear@175.142.13.211) has joined #raspberrypi[12:18]* PiBot sets mode +v MetalGearSolid[12:18]* Opinie (~Opinie@pc-184-130.cable.aina.net) Quit (Quit: Opinie)[12:21]<Aivaras> I am sharing my internet from wifi to eth (ubuntu network manager). Eth is connected to linksys router (wifi + 4 ports) one of the port is raspberry. If I am connected to that wifi - I can connect, but how connect if I am no my primary wifi?[12:22]* i42n (~i42n@dslb-188-104-208-063.pools.arcor-ip.net) Quit (Quit: i42n)[12:24]<Aivaras> Or may I connect somehow just by plugging eth to raspberry? without router?[12:25]<TAFB> Aivaras: I don't understand either of your questions. Raspberry can connect to a routher either by ethernet cable, or by usb wifi adapter.[12:26]* SgrA (~sgra@unaffiliated/sgra) has joined #raspberrypi[12:26]* PiBot sets mode +v SgrA[12:27]<Aivaras> my pc gets internet from wifi only (no cable from provider), I want to share my internet to eth port of my computer (that works) and now I want to connect to raspberry via ssh - can't do that.[12:27]<gordonDrogon> Aivaras, why are you even bothering with sharing using ubunti?[12:27]<gordonDrogon> ah.[12:28]<gordonDrogon> wow. do people still have wifi internet these days?[12:28]<gordonDrogon> thought they'd all died out .[12:28]<gordonDrogon> so, somewhere outside is a wifi access point that you're using?[12:28]<Aivaras> I have some fancy wimax portable shit.. :/[12:29]<TAFB> Aivaras: If I was in your place I would use a device called an "Access Point" to receive the WiFi internet, then plug the Access Point into a router and you have regular, wired and wireless internet for your whole home.[12:29]<gordonDrogon> do you have a base station in your home - wimax one side, wifi the other?[12:29]<gordonDrogon> TAFB, actually, a client bridge...[12:29]* mrmoney2012 (~mrmoney20@b0fc0d5c.bb.sky.com) has joined #raspberrypi[12:29]* PiBot sets mode +v mrmoney2012[12:29]<gordonDrogon> or an access ponit running in client bridge mode.[12:29]* Yotson (~yot@2001:610:76a:0:54ac:207c:f176:33b2) has joined #raspberrypi[12:29]* PiBot sets mode +v Yotson[12:29]<TAFB> gordonDrogon: most wimix will not allow client bridge, he must run his own dhcp/router for more than one devic.[12:30]<Aivaras> Guys, I am at my parents for Christmas - they have one laptop and need portable internet.[12:30]<gordonDrogon> TAFB, sure - but if the wimax device has both wimax and wifi, then a client bridge ought to talk to it - then plumb that into a router and that into the home LAN[12:30]<Aivaras> Can I connect with just cable to pc and same cable to raspberry?[12:30]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[12:30]* PiBot sets mode +v piers12345[12:30]<TAFB> Aivaras: Not without special sharing software on the PC[12:31]* tinti (~tinti@201.62.162.119) has joined #raspberrypi[12:31]* PiBot sets mode +v tinti[12:31]<gordonDrogon> a linux kernel is "special sharing software" ;-)[12:31]<piers12345> Hi everybody. My raspberry pi blog is up at piproject.pihosted.com it would be great if people would have a look and gove me feedback[12:31]<TAFB> (internet connection sharing, you might be able to bridge the network connections and have it work depending on how the wifi adapter shows up in windows)[12:31]<gordonDrogon> piers12345, hm. no dns today..[12:32]* Opinie (~Opinie@pc-184-130.cable.aina.net) has joined #raspberrypi[12:32]* PiBot sets mode +v Opinie[12:32]<mrhobbz> i think he meant .org[12:32]<TAFB> piers12345: server not found for me[12:32]* adb (~IonMoldom@178-211-235-11.dhcp.voenergies.net) has joined #raspberrypi[12:32]* PiBot sets mode +v adb[12:32]<gordonDrogon> a-ha org :)[12:32]<TAFB> http://piproject.pihosted.org/[12:33]<gordonDrogon> well, not much there so-far :)[12:33]<piers12345> My dns has it. Try looking at it through a proxy?[12:33]<gordonDrogon> try typing the correct domain name :)[12:35]<Aivaras> I hate networking... :/[12:35]<TAFB> Aivaras: Is the WiMax adapter a USB adapter that goes into a computer?[12:35]* Jever (~Jever@unaffiliated/jever) has joined #raspberrypi[12:35]* PiBot sets mode +v Jever[12:36]<Aivaras> No, it makes only wifi[12:36]<TAFB> i see[12:36]<TAFB> and lots of devices can connect to it's wifi at the same time?[12:36]<Aivaras> Yes.[12:36]<piers12345> gordonDrogon, im hoping to put stuff up there every day.[12:36]<TAFB> but you don't have a wifi card for your Pi?[12:36]<Aivaras> yes[12:37]<Aivaras> But I have lot of cables and router.[12:37]<gordonDrogon> piers12345, that was my aim too when I started projects.drogon.net ... somehow it's not quite worked out that way :)[12:37]<TAFB> ahh. I'm running my Pi with wifi adapter, works great: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-09-RaspberryPi_is_finished.jpg[12:38]* AeroNotix (~xeno@aazw179.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) Quit (Quit: Uploading hax.....)[12:38]* scummos (~sven@p57B19D1B.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #raspberrypi[12:38]* PiBot sets mode +v scummos[12:39]<Aivaras> oh, and I also don't have USB keyboard. :D[12:39]<piers12345> GordonDrogon, how many views a day are u getting.[12:39]<Aivaras> so no configuration on raspberry can be made :D[12:40]<TAFB> Aivaras: what router do you have?[12:40]<piers12345> Aivaras. Can u plug the sd card into a computer and modify files from there?[12:41]<Aivaras> linksys wrt54gc[12:41]<TAFB> Aivaras: Best router ever :) Do you know what ddwrt is?[12:41]<dr_willis> Earlier today we were mentionign a e-ink display for the pi. :) found some articals on hacking a kindle to do that.[12:41]<Aivaras> mine does not support that[12:41]<dr_willis> http://gizmodo.com/5942166/hack-your-kindle-to-use-it-as-a-raspberry-pi-screen?tag=raspberry-pi[12:41]<gordonDrogon> piers12345, um..[12:41]<Aivaras> it is ver 2.0 so no ddwrt or openwrt for me[12:42]<gordonDrogon> november averaged 40K hits/day.[12:42]<TAFB> Aivaras: that is very unfortunate. If it did, you could use it at client bridge, it will share the wifi from your wimax, and you could plug ethernet into Pi, even with no keyboard, you could get ip address from ddwrt log and connect by ssh, vnc etc :)[12:42]<Aivaras> yeah, I know that.[12:43]<gordonDrogon> breads ready. back inna bit.[12:43]<Aivaras> Can we now focus on what can I do instead of what I can't? :D[12:43]<TAFB> gordonDrogon: Banana bread?[12:43]<TAFB> Aivaras: I'm not able to help you with the equipment you have at hand. I suggest you go buy USB wifi adapter for $10USD or less and $6USD usb keyboard :)[12:44]<Aivaras> I believe that it is possible to route something so I could connect :D[12:45]* xCP23x (~xCP23x@2.25.250.161) has joined #raspberrypi[12:45]* PiBot sets mode +v xCP23x[12:45]<TAFB> Aivaras: I'm sure it is. If you had Windows XP on the wimax PC I could get it work for you in 10 seconds :)[12:46]<Aivaras> what ip of raspberry device would be after bridge?[12:46]<TAFB> 192.168.10.xxx[12:46]<piers12345> gordonDrogon, wow[12:48]<mrmoney2012> oh alsa??? why is thou so tricky to configure as default device![12:48]<Aivaras> if I ping to IP what I think is raspberry and LNK led blinks is it mean I am reaching my raspberry?[12:49]<TAFB> Aivaras: do you not have a screen hooked up to your Pi? it shows you ip address on boot[12:50]<Aivaras> oh[12:50]<schemanen> or you can run a nmap on you network and you see al open ports and IP adresses[12:50]<Aivaras> I could do that. Thanks - will try[12:50]<TAFB> watch close, where it brings up eth0, it'll scroll the ip by shortly after[12:51]* SgrA (~sgra@unaffiliated/sgra) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[12:53]<Aivaras> damn nmap says that I am wrong... :/[12:54]<schemanen> wrong?[12:55]<schemanen> the rpi is not connected?[12:55]<Aivaras> I was hoping to see open 22 port[12:56]<schemanen> ok, so ssh is not enabled then[12:56]* xCP23x (~xCP23x@2.25.250.161) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[12:56]<Aivaras> It is enabled, because I can connect to pi if it is connected to router and I am connected to that router[12:56]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[12:57]<schemanen> if you run the rpi-config on the pi you can enable it easy if you run wheezy[12:57]<Aivaras> It is enabled.[12:58]<schemanen> ok, if you are connected witch a cable you mean? And it is not working with wifi or what?[12:58]<mrmoney2012> anyone help me - I have a usb sound card and have *not* loaded the bcm module - this works great "aplay bigben.wav -D sysdefault:CARD=Device" (loud and clear)??? however I clearly want to just type "aplay bigben.wav" when I do this I get the daft message "aplay: main:682: audio open error: No such file or directory"??? I believe the answer to setting the card as default is in a ~/.asoundrc but despite trying a few configs, not got it workin[12:58]<mrmoney2012> yet.[12:58]<Aivaras> ok, I did things in strange way - but it works now. :)[12:59]<schemanen> ok[12:59]<schemanen> good :)[12:59]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[12:59]* PiBot sets mode +v piers12345[12:59]<Aivaras> share network connection (ubuntu network manager), then plug eth to pc and pi, then capture eth0 with wireshark[13:00]<mrmoney2012> aplay -l gives ??? card 1: Device [Generic USB Audio Device], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio][13:01]<schemanen> aivares: make sure to run wireshark with sudo, sometimes you dont see the packages if you not run wireshark as root[13:02]<Aivaras> yeah, without root it would not even captured :D[13:04]<gordonDrogon> piers12345, yea, I'm told that's not bad..[13:04]<gordonDrogon> TAFB, sourdough bread..[13:05]* SgrA (~sgra@unaffiliated/sgra) has joined #raspberrypi[13:05]* PiBot sets mode +v SgrA[13:05]<TAFB> gordonDrogon: nice, my fav :)[13:06]<gordonDrogon> TAFB, looks like this: http://unicorn.drogon.net/bread2.jpg but it's a bit damp to use the BBQ today, so I used my oven.[13:06]<gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/sourdough.jpg[13:06]<gordonDrogon> ^ one I made earler ;-)[13:07]<TAFB> gordonDrogon: Nice! "untreated milk", illegal to sell/buy here :)[13:07]<Aivaras> I found 1A usb power supply in my old stuff. Day is getting better and better :D[13:07]<gordonDrogon> TAFB, shame. We get it direct fro a local farm.[13:07]<TAFB> gordonDrogon: nice! must be fresh :)[13:08]<gordonDrogon> yea, they only deliver 3 days a week though, but it's fine.[13:08]<TAFB> gordonDrogon: Need a little more help, with "TOP 10 CPU HOGS!" hehe.[13:08]<TAFB> gordonDrogon: http://toysareforboys.no-ip.info:8000/[13:08]<TAFB> look under top 10 cpu hogs[13:08]<TAFB> you'll see some super super long lines (highlight with mouse)[13:08]<TAFB> :([13:09]<TAFB> the command I'm using is right underneath the list, can you think of I way I could trim the lines to say 80 characters or something?[13:09]* SgrA (~sgra@unaffiliated/sgra) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[13:09]<gordonDrogon> pr is supposed to be trimming... hmm.[13:09]* Milos (Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:10]<gordonDrogon> you could look at the 'cut' command.[13:10]<TAFB> ok, will check, thanks![13:11]<gordonDrogon> right. time to make brunch. wifey will be home in 5![13:12]* elyob (~textual@host86-136-175-106.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"])[13:12]<TAFB> gordonDrogon: WORKS! You are the MASTER!!! ps -e -o pcpu,cpu,nice,state,cputime,args| sed '/ 0.0 /d' | sort -r | head | cut -c1-80[13:13]* Milos (Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) has joined #raspberrypi[13:13]* PiBot sets mode +v Milos[13:13]<gordonDrogon> master? not sure about that. I've only been using Unix for about 31 years now...[13:13]<TAFB> HEHE[13:13]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[13:14]<TAFB> I should probably use the "cut" command on most of my ones where it spits out the process name, some of them are crazy long![13:16]* Kripton is now known as kripton[13:21]* SgrA (~sgra@unaffiliated/sgra) has joined #raspberrypi[13:21]* PiBot sets mode +v SgrA[13:26]* Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky[13:26]<Opinie> what's missing from raspbian? I can't create fat32 partitions with gparted for some reason[13:27]* dr_willis (~dr_willis@2601:d:a180:2b:d03e:d55e:6e03:5188) Quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[13:32]<TAFB> ok, added memory hogs, cpu hogs and complete config.txt printout to my status page: http://toysareforboys.no-ip.info:8000/[13:33]* cyclick (~user@unaffiliated/cyclick) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[13:34]* cyclick (~user@unaffiliated/cyclick) has joined #raspberrypi[13:34]* PiBot sets mode +v cyclick[13:35]* Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk[13:38]* thermal (~thermal@unaffiliated/thermal) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[13:39]* AeroNotix (~xeno@aazw179.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) has joined #raspberrypi[13:39]* PiBot sets mode +v AeroNotix[13:41]* rvalles (~rvalles@unaffiliated/rvalles) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[13:41]* Milos_ (Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) has joined #raspberrypi[13:41]* PiBot sets mode +v Milos_[13:43]* Armand (~martin@cpc17-haye16-2-0-cust427.haye.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[13:43]* PiBot sets mode +v Armand[13:44]* Milos (Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[13:44]* peetaur2 (~peter@hmbg-4d06e780.pool.mediaWays.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[13:44]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[13:44]* PiBot sets mode +v piers12345[13:44]* Milos_ is now known as Milos[13:46]* peetaur2 (~peter@hmbg-4d06e780.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #raspberrypi[13:46]* PiBot sets mode +v peetaur2[13:49]* rvalles (~rvalles@unaffiliated/rvalles) has joined #raspberrypi[13:49]* PiBot sets mode +v rvalles[13:52]* Cembo (~hardcoreB@unaffiliated/cembo) has joined #raspberrypi[13:52]* PiBot sets mode +v Cembo[13:57]<piers12345> Out of interest, do the new model a boards condform to the rev 1 or 2 spec?[13:57]<piers12345> With regards to the gpio[13:58]* kripton is now known as Kripton[13:58]<TAFB> i dunno :( maybe try and find the spec diagrams for each board, then you can see[14:00]<piers12345> They said it was cheaper to just not fit the ethernet parts to the model a rather than a separate pcb, so maybe it will be the same as the rev 2[14:01]* dero (~dero@p548B499F.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #raspberrypi[14:01]* PiBot sets mode +v dero[14:06]* mrmoney2012 (~mrmoney20@b0fc0d5c.bb.sky.com) Quit (Quit: .)[14:08]* James_Carmack (~james@101.85.197.99) Quit (Quit: leaving)[14:08]* Aivaras (~aivaras@228.205.38.86.mobile.mezon.lt) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[14:09]* marl_scot (~matt@cpc1-dumb5-2-0-cust86.20-3.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[14:09]* PiBot sets mode +v marl_scot[14:10]* bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[14:11]<marl_scot> hi guys, im looking for a basic buffer chip to protect my pi a bit, something that will allow me to set the direction along with an enable pin as well (would prefer 8 bits) any recomendations?[14:15]* tinti (~tinti@201.62.162.119) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[14:15]* bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@30.Red-88-13-166.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #raspberrypi[14:15]* PiBot sets mode +v bizarro_1[14:16]* Armand (~martin@cpc17-haye16-2-0-cust427.haye.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[14:17]* Milos (Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:17]<marl_scot> was thinking of something like the 74hc245 but would like to know if anyone else has any sugestions[14:18]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[14:19]* Milos (Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) has joined #raspberrypi[14:19]* PiBot sets mode +v Milos[14:19]* forage (~forage@fiber-087-195-226-142.solcon.nl) has joined #raspberrypi[14:19]* PiBot sets mode +v forage[14:21]<forage> my SD card is plagued with mmc0 timeouts right after boot. There's supposed to be a fix (https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/commit/7e8ae226fe6e95954df6b0dcdde40a53dbbc1a0b) but I can't quite tell if it's included in an available build[14:22]<TAFB> which brand/model SD card? lots have been know to have that problem.[14:22]<TAFB> and you're not overclocked at all right?[14:23]<forage> nope[14:23]<forage> Kingston 16 GB SDHC Class 10 (SD10V/16 GB)[14:23]<TAFB> supposed to be a fine card[14:23]<forage> not according to http://elinux.org/RaspberryPiBoardVerifiedPeripherals#SD_cards[14:24]<TAFB> oh wow, lots of problems reported :([14:24]<forage> only tried 2012-10-28-wheezy-raspbian and openelec[14:27]<forage> I can't really accept the "just try a random card and see if it works", it can't be that so many cards are not working for RPi but work fine in other devices[14:27]<forage> so if I can help testing possible fixes...[14:29]<forage> can you recommend me a more up to date "release" to try first?[14:30]<TAFB> forage: did you do all the full firmware updates when you used wheezy?[14:30]<forage> firmware updates? :-S[14:31]<forage> :-$[14:31]<TAFB> http://hexxeh.net/?p=328117855[14:31]<TAFB> when that is complete, run this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade[14:33]<forage> I take it this can only be performed on the RPi itself once booted?[14:33]<TAFB> yep :([14:34]<forage> luckily got me an old (working) SD card from my camera[14:34]<TAFB> when it updates your firmware it has to use the code from your broadcom chip. if you pull the sd out and put it in another Pi it doesn't boot after :([14:34]<forage> what firmware are we talking about? There's no mention of it on the official site[14:34]<TAFB> forage: i know, I guess it's unofficial, I dunno[14:35]<TAFB> https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-update[14:35]<TAFB> i use it a lot, it works sweet[14:35]<TAFB> check out my firmware version: http://toysareforboys.no-ip.info:8000/[14:36]* lollo64it (~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[14:39]<forage> TAFB: but does updating also mean I can't just use an official Raspbian release any more out of the box?[14:39]<TAFB> I'm not sure, I don't knoe how releases work, I only know I download the .img and overwrite my entire card using the official software :([14:40]* Opinie (~Opinie@pc-184-130.cable.aina.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[14:40]<TAFB> Also, if possible, could some go to my status page and see if the IP addresses are being reported properly under "OS". I can't test because I'm local :( http://toysareforboys.no-ip.info:8000/[14:41]<forage> TAFB: This Pi thinks your IP address is ....[14:41]<TAFB> so it doesn't have your ip address?[14:41]<forage> listing two[14:42]<TAFB> it's ip address should be: 99.243.119.52[14:42]* hrebicek (~hrebicek_@ip4-83-240-6-28.cust.nbox.cz) has joined #raspberrypi[14:42]* PiBot sets mode +v hrebicek[14:42]<TAFB> did it list yours correctly?[14:42]* libto (~libto@essn-5d83159d.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #raspberrypi[14:42]* PiBot sets mode +v libto[14:42]<TAFB> go to www.whatismyip.com if you don't know yours[14:42]<forage> yes[14:42]<TAFB> ahhh. great :)[14:42]<TAFB> thanks for checking[14:42]<forage> np[14:42]* libto_ (~libto@essn-4d092e04.pool.mediaWays.net) Quit (Read error: Operation timed out)[14:42]* schemanen (~schemanen@c83-252-255-175.bredband.comhem.se) Quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7)[14:43]<forage> TAFB: so if I understand correctly, you updated your firmware and you can still use the different available images for your SD card?[14:43]* unigee (~pi@cpc3-chwo7-2-0-cust429.perr.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[14:43]* PiBot sets mode +v unigee[14:44]* Milos|Netbook (Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) has joined #raspberrypi[14:44]* PiBot sets mode +v Milos|Netbook[14:44]<TAFB> the firmware is ONLY updated on THE sd card you run it on.[14:44]<TAFB> the Pi contains no onboard firmware[14:44]<buZz> yes it does :P[14:44]<buZz> its on the GPU[14:44]<buZz> but its not upgradable[14:44]<TAFB> buZz: quit being so technical[14:44]<buZz> oh sorry :P[14:45]<Joeboy> buZz: I like it that you're technical :-)[14:45]<forage> ah, ok, now I understand[14:45]<forage> so then there's no point in me doing so[14:45]<buZz> ;)[14:45]<TAFB> buzz, check out my status page! Now it does ip address detection (both yours and mine), lists top 10 memory AND cpu Hogs, and displays full config.txt and network/interfaces :) http://toysareforboys.no-ip.info:8000/[14:46]<buZz> ha, great :D[14:46]<Joeboy> buZz: although, presumably there is *some* way to upgrade it[14:46]<TAFB> see if it gets your right ip, I was having some issues with it spitting out ip's like 192.168.x.x[14:48]<buZz> Joeboy: well i dont recommend it :D[14:48]<buZz> TAFB: think its right yeah[14:48]<TAFB> woot :) nice[14:49]* AeroNotix (~xeno@aazw179.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) Quit (Quit: Uploading hax.....)[14:50]<forage> can any one tell if there's a release available that has this fix included? https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/commit/7e8ae226fe6e95954df6b0dcdde40a53dbbc1a0b[14:50]<buZz> TAFB: http://moanmyip.com/[14:51]<forage> buZz: old school ;-)[14:51]<TAFB> buzz: nice. I'll see if I can build that into my status page ;)[14:51]<TAFB> it needs a little spice[14:52]<buZz> forage: oh, nice fix, although i never hit that bug[14:52]<buZz> no idea if its in current firmware[14:53]<TAFB> ok folks, 9am here, should probably get to bed soon[14:53]<buZz> 15:00 here :)[14:53]<TAFB> lol[14:54]<TAFB> i was up all night processing video :( 4 hours x 3 cameras @ 1080p :([14:54]<forage> looks like we have a workaround! http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=7968[14:54]<TAFB> here's a little clip of the rehearsal of the dog show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmoH826dQ-4&hd=1[14:56]* hrebicek (~hrebicek_@ip4-83-240-6-28.cust.nbox.cz) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[14:57]* Couto (~15minutes@pdpc/supporter/active/couto) has joined #raspberrypi[14:57]* PiBot sets mode +v Couto[14:57]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[14:57]* PiBot sets mode +v piers12345[14:58]* Opinie (~Opinie@95.211.188.53) has joined #raspberrypi[14:58]* PiBot sets mode +v Opinie[14:58]* cyber37 (~cyber37@93.206.192.77.rev.sfr.net) has joined #raspberrypi[14:58]* PiBot sets mode +v cyber37[14:59]<cyber37> hi guy's, it's english only here maybe ?[14:59]* Milos|Netbook (Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:59]<TAFB> lots of country's here, could probably find someone with your language if english isn't strong[14:59]<piers12345> I think so. You could always google translate your questions and then translate responses[15:00]* unigee (~pi@cpc3-chwo7-2-0-cust429.perr.cable.virginmedia.com) has left #raspberrypi[15:00]<cyber37> No it's not a problem i can speak english :[15:01]* unigee (~pi@cpc3-chwo7-2-0-cust429.perr.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[15:01]* PiBot sets mode +v unigee[15:01]<gordonDrogon> piers12345, new boards are all rev 2.[15:01]<piers12345> Ah thanks.[15:02]<gordonDrogon> piers12345, wiringPi detects it correctly (most of the time!)[15:02]<cyber37> I was watching for a computer for plug it to my TV, and watch videos, control my over computer with VNC, and make home made application, (i am develloper / programmer / and i watch hackaday.com every day's) :D[15:02]* U1D0 (~U1D0@unaffiliated/u1d0) has joined #raspberrypi[15:02]* PiBot sets mode +v U1D0[15:02]<cyber37> is the raspberry-pi capable of watching a video without lags or freezes ?[15:02]<cyber37> *realy capable[15:02]<U1D0> greetings, everyone![15:03]<cyber37> hi man[15:03]* Eliatrope (~speckius@melforce.xtsubasa.org) has joined #raspberrypi[15:03]* PiBot sets mode +v Eliatrope[15:03]<piers12345> It is with omxplayer. But the format has to be .mp4 or it can be mpeg 2 if you have a licence key[15:03]<U1D0> cyber37: cheers[15:04]<U1D0> I've got a question: anyone managed to overclock raspberry model b to 1000Mhz without stability problems?[15:04]<TAFB> U1D0: Don't use raspi-config to overclock[15:04]<TAFB> it's garbage:[15:04]<piers12345> People have but you will almost certainly have to use overvolt[15:04]<gordonDrogon> U1D0, I have - mostly.[15:05]<TAFB> U1D0: I'm running at 1000ghz, rock solid. I use dynamic overclocking. Specs and full config.txt available on my live Pi status page: http://toysareforboys.no-ip.info:8000/[15:05]<gordonDrogon> U1D0, but I've found it's really susceptible to PSU as well, and trying to overclock my RAM leads to trouble.[15:05]<U1D0> TAFB: why?[15:05]<TAFB> U1D0: Too much SD card corruption with their 1ghz settings.[15:05]<viric> TAFB: in %, how much faster is that compared to a usual pi?[15:05]<U1D0> hmmmm[15:06]<U1D0> TAFB: you mean FS problems?[15:06]<unigee> http://toysareforboys.no-ip.info:8000/[15:06]<unigee> http://toysareforboys.no-ip.info:8000/[15:06]<unigee> oops did I just past a link?[15:06]<unigee> guess I did[15:06]<gordonDrogon> I've given up with overclocking for now.[15:07]<viric> TAFB: I guess the bogomips comparision will do[15:07]<piers12345> My pi is at 900mhz no overvolt. No issues[15:09]<piers12345> Anyone know how to setup all gpios as output with python and an array?[15:11]* markbook (~markllama@pool-74-104-180-140.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #raspberrypi[15:11]* PiBot sets mode +v markbook[15:12]* Milos|Netbook (Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) has joined #raspberrypi[15:12]* PiBot sets mode +v Milos|Netbook[15:13]<TAFB> viric: the difference in performance is mind blowing, especially on boot[15:13]<viric> 697.95 bogomips here, usual pi[15:13]<TAFB> how do I run test?[15:14]<viric> yours, 996.14. 42% faster[15:14]<gordonDrogon> piers12345, re-write it in C and use wiringPi ;-)[15:14]<TAFB> oh :) sweet[15:14]<viric> for tasks like 'compiling programs', though, the sheevaplug is twice faster than the pi still, I think[15:15]<piers12345> Dont worry. I just remembered how for loops work :D not done python for a while[15:15]<forage> too bad, still timeouts...[15:16]<gordonDrogon> piers12345, you could always re-write in BASIC too - my RTB support the GPIO out of the box ;-)[15:16]<Cheery> dakerfp: I'm unsure what's wrong in that. Although I'm not sitting too long in front of computer today anyway.[15:17]<piers12345> Haha. Never done basic. Too young[15:17]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) Quit (Quit: piers12345)[15:18]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[15:18]* PiBot sets mode +v piers12345[15:19]<gordonDrogon> You're never too old to learn :)[15:20]<viric> there are good basic compilers for some microcontrollers[15:20]* hyperair (~hyperair@ubuntu/member/hyperair) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[15:20]<piers12345> Fair enough. I just stupidly yanked out the power supply for my pi as its by my feet. Ive got a very dodgy setup there...[15:20]<viric> I remember using one for the 8051[15:21]<Cheery> gordonDrogon: Bones in the grave might have a different opinion.[15:22]* MichaelC|Sleep is now known as MichaelC[15:23]<TAFB> my Pi doesn't lose power very often ;) http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-09-RaspberryPi_is_finished.jpg[15:23]<piers12345> Thats a ups isnt it?[15:24]<TAFB> yep :)[15:24]* exobuzz (~buzz@2001:470:9773:0:8441:5721:5193:4843) Quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)[15:24]<TAFB> left over from the 1200watt server I replaced with the Pi :)[15:24]* markbook (~markllama@pool-74-104-180-140.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[15:24]<piers12345> What kind of server needed 1200 watts!?[15:24]* ReggieUK (~ReggieUK@5aca5630.bb.sky.com) has joined #raspberrypi[15:24]* PiBot sets mode +v ReggieUK[15:24]* ChanServ sets mode +o ReggieUK[15:24]<TAFB> 8 cpu, dual 1200watt supplies[15:24]<TAFB> to run like 3 websites and 8 e-mail domains ;)[15:25]* int3nz0r (~int3nz0r@86.86.66.141) has joined #raspberrypi[15:25]* PiBot sets mode +v int3nz0r[15:25]<U1D0> cr4p my raspberry is not booting after reboot and don't have a display :D[15:25]<U1D0> no ssh[15:26]<TAFB> U1D0: connected by HDMI?[15:26]<U1D0> no cable[15:26]<viric> U1D0: take out the sd, fix it in your computer, and put again the sd[15:26]<U1D0> viric: agree, but I don't know what to fix[15:26]* Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky[15:26]<viric> check there the boot logs :)[15:26]<viric> /var/log[15:26]<U1D0> good idea[15:27]<NucWin> or put a recovery kernel in /boot[15:27]<viric> maybe U1D0 hasn't touched the kernel[15:27]<piers12345> Thats a big server[15:28]<U1D0> viric , NucWin - I've got default kernel[15:28]<viric> piers12345: well, if you use ruby, or php, ... you need that hardware just to cover a few users :)[15:29]<gordonDrogon> TAFB, is that a metal box your Pi is sitting on-top of ...[15:29]<piers12345> Inefficient code i guess?[15:29]* alexkane_ (~alex@user-108738h.cable.mindspring.com) has joined #raspberrypi[15:29]* PiBot sets mode +v alexkane_[15:30]<TAFB> gordonDrogon: nope, plastic[15:30]<gordonDrogon> TAFB, phew![15:31]<TAFB> especially considering I have the F3 ployfused bridged :)[15:31]<piers12345> My power supply. http://i.imgur.com/6RCpx.jpg power cube, to shaver adapter to us iphone charger which i got with my cheap ipad from the us, to usb powering the gpios[15:31]* hyperair (~hyperair@ubuntu/member/hyperair) has joined #raspberrypi[15:31]* PiBot sets mode +v hyperair[15:32]<TAFB> lol, where you live?[15:32]<piers12345> Uk. I got an ipad in the us coz it was cheaper. Then i needed a uk to us adapter but i found it fits the shaver socket rather well[15:33]<TAFB> Ahhh :) I bought some monitors the other day that came with UK power adapters, threw me for a loop[15:33]<piers12345> Tafb, where are you?[15:33]<TAFB> toronto, ontario, canada[15:33]<TAFB> I get to use USA ipod adapters with no funny business ;)[15:34]<TAFB> 120v/60hz dual straight spade plug[15:34]<buZz> i dont understand why ppl would want an ipad[15:34]<TAFB> rofl[15:34]<buZz> who would give money to keep a platform closed source??[15:34]<buZz> thats just retarded[15:35]<buZz> ALL YOU CUSTOMERS SUCK, YOU CAN NEVER WRITE BUGFIXES FOR OUR CODE, BECAUSE WE ARE AWESOME AND YOU SUCK![15:35]<TAFB> my ex girlfriends iPhone did a "forced update", then her stereo in her car wouldn't play from it, her car charger wouldn't work, and her home stereo wouldn't play from it! lol[15:35]* markbook (~markllama@pool-74-104-180-140.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #raspberrypi[15:35]* PiBot sets mode +v markbook[15:35]<TAFB> apple said "they arn't apple approved accessories!"[15:35]<piers12345> Tafb, is there such a thing as a forced update?[15:35]<buZz> yes[15:35]<buZz> on closed platforms it happens a lot[15:35]<buZz> like xbox 360, ps3 etc[15:36]<TAFB> piers12345: Yep, if you don't upgrade it disables from being able to make calls. everything else still works though.[15:36]* Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk[15:36]<piers12345> That sounds bad. I only have wifi models of things so ive probably never experienced one of those[15:37]<viric> anyone uses the pi in the car?[15:37]* Alfihar (~Yuuka@siberios.co.uk) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[15:37]<TAFB> piers12345: yep! Some people don't even do calls anymore, all text, facebook, etc. so they don't even notice![15:37]<TAFB> viric: I tried in my friends, but the analog audio out had static and hum :([15:37]<Spiffy> No such thing as a forced update on iPhone - you have to chose to do so.[15:37]* cyber37 (~cyber37@93.206.192.77.rev.sfr.net) Quit (Quit: Lost terminal)[15:37]<viric> ok[15:37]<piers12345> Spiffy, but i think it was a carrier update[15:37]<viric> With what interface, in the car?[15:38]<TAFB> Spiffy: here in Canada, the cell phone providers only let you go so long without the update, then disable your sim card[15:38]<TAFB> piers12345: correct[15:38]<viric> I mean... a keyboard? :)[15:38]<Spiffy> TAFT you sure that is not the carrier settings, and NOT the firmware? This is completely different things[15:38]<Spiffy> TAFB*[15:38]<TAFB> viric: We set up a little button board and LCD display so he could go through playlists, songs, etc, but the audio was very poor.[15:38]<piers12345> I have to be careful not to electrocute myself on the power supply as the pins are exposed and still live[15:39]<gordonDrogon> why don't you folks buy phones sim-free with no contract?[15:39]<TAFB> viric: in his house it worked fine, so the Pi must have been getting interference from the alternator, emi/rfi, etc.[15:39]<gordonDrogon> or is it just not possible... ?[15:39]<TAFB> gordonDrogon: No sim free phones here :)[15:39]<viric> TAFB: ok.[15:39]<Spiffy> ...[15:39]<Spiffy> *sigh*[15:39]* Spiffy (~Spiffy@unaffiliated/spiffy) has left #raspberrypi[15:40]<viric> I was thinking about car monitoring, with that... bus cars have[15:40]<piers12345> U can buy sim free but it costs loads more and apple dont normally release for a couple of months[15:40]<TAFB> viric: Like ODB2?[15:40]<gordonDrogon> that's a bit sucky. I've not bought a phone on a contract for about 10 years now.[15:40]<viric> cuold be[15:40]<viric> could be[15:40]<viric> I don't remember the name[15:40]<TAFB> gordonDrogon: you can buy no contract, if you want to pay $700 for the phone ;)[15:40]* Cykey (~textual@modemcable119.94-162-184.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi[15:40]* PiBot sets mode +v Cykey[15:41]<viric> having some agent advising on driving for smaller fuel usage, would be nice.[15:41]<gordonDrogon> TAFB, that's the same in the UK.[15:41]<TAFB> viric: they make some sweet usb to ODB2 adapters you could probably get working with the Pi. No problem spitting out to a nice backlit LCD display your fuel consumption, etc.[15:41]<gordonDrogon> I tend to buy phones when they're near the end of their release, so prices have dropped. current is HTC Desire-Z.[15:42]<gordonDrogon> cost me about ?250.[15:42]<viric> if I could monitor the gas pedal press, speed, ... it'd be nice. but I guess I'd have to have a very new car to have all that. I doubt mine has even that bus.[15:42]* Alfihar (~Yuuka@siberios.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[15:42]* PiBot sets mode +v Alfihar[15:43]<TAFB> viric: For my motorcycle, I added a linear sensor to the forks, so I could measure my suspension travel and log it/data capture. You could put the same sensor on the gas pedal, reading speed could be easy (gps probably, or speedo sensor).[15:44]<viric> uhm[15:44]<viric> that sounds like work.[15:44]<TAFB> indeed[15:44]<viric> not what I was looking for.[15:45]<TAFB> rofl, I plugged my computer into my battery backup, not bad, 338watts at idle... fire up crysis3, 654 watts :( http://ecuflashking.com/Gateway_i7/IMG_0881_L.png[15:45]<scummos> 338 watts![15:45]<viric> I guess that computer heats your living place, too[15:46]<scummos> it definitely does[15:46]<viric> I hate moving parts too much. I can't stand the noise of computer fans.[15:46]<TAFB> keeps my feet warm in the winter :)[15:46]<piers12345> Get an arm server[15:46]<TAFB> viric: you should hear my computer, it's totally silent (when not paying crysis3)[15:46]<viric> my computers aren't noisy. TAFB's are.[15:46]<TAFB> viric: wrong ;)[15:46]<viric> I can't belive it :)[15:47]<TAFB> viric: It's true. The fans don't spin at all, or at like 100rpm when I use my computer normally, they are all thermally controlled :)[15:47]<viric> ok[15:48]<TAFB> waterjet cut mounting plate: http://ecuflashking.com/Gateway_i7/IMG_0874_L.png[15:48]<TAFB> laser cut fan grill :) http://ecuflashking.com/Gateway_i7/NewGrill/large/IMG_1192.JPG[15:49]<shiftplusone> TAFB, do you actually need all that? O_o[15:49]<TAFB> crysis3 needs a lot![15:50]<scummos> let's get to that again, you have a *battery backup* for your desktop computer?[15:51]<TAFB> scummos: not currently, I plugged it into the battery backup I'm using for my Pi, just to see how much power it was drawing :)[15:51]<TAFB> shiftplusone: I do a lot of video editing too, so it pays to have a fast box.[15:52]<shiftplusone> I suppose if I had the money right now, I'd do the same, but still >.>[15:53]<TAFB> I'm hoping to eventually run 6 screens off my computer :) I had three but one exploded so down to 2 for a bit. I miss 3, I think 6 would be just perfect.[15:53]* cave (~cave@178-191-224-243.adsl.highway.telekom.at) has joined #raspberrypi[15:53]* PiBot sets mode +v cave[15:54]* richardbranson (~pi@host86-178-56-115.range86-178.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[15:54]<viric> TAFB: you should consider inserting some electronics under your skin too[15:54]<Opinie> TAFB: well, as I was looking into that bit about monitors I talked to you about, I found out that with Xdmx supports using 16 monitors[15:55]<viric> :)[15:55]<TAFB> ohhhh, 16, nice :)[15:55]<Opinie> I thought that'd be pretty nifty, yeah[15:56]<TAFB> http://www.carybergeron.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/six-monitors-11.jpg[15:57]<Opinie> TAFB: that a picture of how you had your machine set up?[15:57]<TAFB> Opinie: nope, just how I'd like my 6 to work out.[15:57]<Opinie> ok[15:58]<Opinie> :)[15:58]* jxriddle (~jxriddle@ip-69-27-56-206.slm.blueriver.net) has joined #raspberrypi[15:58]* PiBot sets mode +v 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yw[17:12]<megaproxy> there is no readme :([17:12]<megaproxy> it lies[17:12]* tanuva (~tanuva@gssn-5f754c20.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #raspberrypi[17:12]* PiBot sets mode +v tanuva[17:12]* luigy (~luigy@pool-108-50-173-45.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #raspberrypi[17:13]* PiBot sets mode +v luigy[17:14]* unigee (~pi@cpc3-chwo7-2-0-cust429.perr.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit (Quit: leaving)[17:15]* yofel_ is now known as yofel[17:17]* basiaf (~basiaf@2a01:238:433a:c200::1) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:19]* tektsu (~steve@ip24-56-44-80.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #raspberrypi[17:19]* PiBot sets mode +v tektsu[17:21]<megaproxy> buZz,[17:21]<megaproxy> http://bedserv.com/[17:21]<megaproxy> does this load, or just endlessly try[17:22]<_Trullo> it's down[17:22]<tektsu> It does not load[17:22]<megaproxy> ok[17:22]<megaproxy> well. in that case[17:22]<megaproxy> does anyone know how the hell i configure this stats page?[17:22]<megaproxy> lol[17:22]<buZz> doenst load[17:23]* Milos|Netbook (Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:23]<megaproxy> there is no readme >.<[17:23]<atouk> which stats page[17:24]<megaproxy> the one tafb uses[17:25]<atouk> http://69.126.35.213:8000/[17:25]<megaproxy> yes that one..[17:25]<atouk> based it on mine. he should have left the readme in the zip[17:26]* xrosnight (~alex@27.197.67.240) has joined #raspberrypi[17:26]* PiBot sets mode +v xrosnight[17:26]<megaproxy> didnt seem to be there[17:26]<megaproxy> i see it in yours tho[17:26]<megaproxy> im going to go have a smoke[17:27]<megaproxy> but im sure ill be asking a few Q's[17:27]<megaproxy> :)[17:27]* Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky[17:27]<xrosnight> hey does anyone know what the power of a Raspberry Pi board is when it runs regularly???[17:27]<atouk> mine was built using apache, so the comments in there are apache specific. httpd and pancake may require other actions[17:27]* tektsu is now known as ad7wy[17:28]<scummos> xrosnight: around 500mA at 5V[17:28]<scummos> very roughly[17:29]<atouk> or about 2.5 watts or 0.0033512064343 horsepower[17:29]* ad7wy is now known as tektsu[17:29]<xrosnight> scummos, are you sure ?[17:29]<megaproxy> hahah[17:29]<megaproxy> my rpi has 0.003 horsepower?![17:29]<xrosnight> only 2.5 watts?[17:30]<xrosnight> so this board can be powered by a 5V 500mA adapter ?[17:30]* Inspiral (~Inspiral@host-2-101-224-177.as13285.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:30]<atouk> yes but 700 sould be better because it needs a little overhead[17:31]* Torikun (~yaaic@76-220-9-159.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi[17:31]* PiBot sets mode +v Torikun[17:31]* AeroNotix (~xeno@aazw179.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[17:31]<xrosnight> atouk: but still 500mA can power it?[17:31]<atouk> also an adapter rated at 500ma may not really be putting out 5v at that power level[17:31]<xrosnight> i get it.[17:32]<Torikun> power for the pi is still an issue for me lol[17:32]<Torikun> especially with a USB hub[17:32]<atouk> i run mine off of comp usb[17:32]<Torikun> even my nexus 7 charged is not enough for a USB hub[17:32]<xrosnight> yeah i am thinking so /say Torikun[17:32]* quarter (~bobk@c-24-60-52-38.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[17:33]* PiBot sets mode +v quarter[17:33]<scummos> xrosnight: well if you enable everything it'll need more[17:33]<scummos> full CPU load + LAN + USB keyboard + HDMI + ...[17:33]<scummos> everything takes extra power[17:33]* NIN101 (~NIN@p5DD2892B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #raspberrypi[17:33]* PiBot sets mode +v NIN101[17:33]<xrosnight> scummos: i want to assemble two boards together[17:33]<scummos> with 1A you're on the safe side[17:34]<xrosnight> scummos: i want to use a battery for one raspberry Pi board[17:34]<atouk> wireless kbd/mouse dongle, external usb hd (externally powered), and wireless plugged into the lan port[17:34]<Torikun> anyone notice any speed increase by over clocking to 1ghz? sr[17:34]<atouk> yus[17:34]<Torikun> feels same to me[17:35]* akiwiguy is now known as akiwiguy|away[17:36]<Torikun> atouk do you have have to reinsert the wireless keyboard dongle when you turn it on[17:36]<atouk> no[17:36]* Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk[17:36]<Torikun> I have to do that sometimes because it does not respond on two pis[17:36]<scummos> xrosnight: on[17:36]<scummos> *ok[17:36]* tektsu (~steve@ip24-56-44-80.ph.ph.cox.net) has left #raspberrypi[17:36]<Torikun> after you power on[17:36]<atouk> logitech mk320[17:38]<atouk> haven't had to change any hardware since i set it up. just an occasional reboot when i steal the power cable for my card writer[17:38]* fatpudding (~fatpuddin@178.74.56.81) has joined #raspberrypi[17:38]* PiBot sets mode +v fatpudding[17:45]* tektsu (~Adium@ip24-56-44-80.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #raspberrypi[17:45]* PiBot sets mode +v tektsu[17:47]* tektsu (~Adium@ip24-56-44-80.ph.ph.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[17:48]* tektsu (~Adium@ip24-56-44-80.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #raspberrypi[17:48]* PiBot sets mode +v tektsu[17:51]* Dyskette (~freja@cpc8-warw15-2-0-cust22.3-2.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[17:51]* apollo (~apollo@unaffiliated/pkuk) has joined #raspberrypi[17:51]* PiBot sets mode +v apollo[17:52]* oldtopman (~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman) Quit (Quit: *pouf*)[17:55]* home (~home@unaffiliated/home) has joined #raspberrypi[17:55]* PiBot sets mode +v home[17:56]* tektsu (~Adium@ip24-56-44-80.ph.ph.cox.net) has left #raspberrypi[17:56]* tektsu (~Adium@ip24-56-44-80.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #raspberrypi[17:56]* PiBot sets mode +v tektsu[17:56]<home> how do I get opencv running :D[17:59]<jelly1> home: you install it[17:59]<home> how?[18:00]<jelly1> home: using your distro[18:00]<home> okay[18:00]<home> how[18:00]<home> I did it yesterday[18:00]<jelly1> then after installation you view that the Pi doenst have mjpeg decoding making webcam capture + opencv slow[18:00]<xrosnight> what you doing with openCV[18:01]<home> testing an ip camera[18:01]<home> and doing some vision stuff[18:01]<home> tracking, etc[18:02]<jelly1> prepare for it being epic slow[18:04]* luigy (~luigy@pool-108-50-173-45.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[18:06]<home> really?[18:06]* markbook (~markllama@pool-74-104-180-140.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[18:09]<buZz> hehe yeah[18:09]<gordonDrogon> right. cake is in the oven...[18:09]<gordonDrogon> a cake with 1/4 pint of whinky in it ...[18:09]<gordonDrogon> er, whisky..[18:09]<atouk> mmmm[18:09]* N0_Named_Guy (~Someone@a89-153-113-53.cpe.netcabo.pt) Quit (Quit: Bye bye =))[18:11]* N0_Named_Guy (~Someone@a89-153-113-53.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #raspberrypi[18:11]* PiBot sets mode +v N0_Named_Guy[18:16]* halfhalo (halfhalo@nasadmin/webteam/halfhalo) Quit (Excess Flood)[18:17]* Linovia (~textual@put92-4-82-231-49-9.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #raspberrypi[18:17]* PiBot 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(~freja@cpc8-warw15-2-0-cust22.3-2.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[18:35]* PiBot sets mode +v Dyskette[18:36]<atouk> on my 2nd cup of coffe, one percocet for the back, and it's raining outside, so i'm not doing much more than sitting here and annoying the noobs[18:36]* lollo64it (~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it) has joined #raspberrypi[18:36]* PiBot sets mode +v lollo64it[18:38]* tanuva (~tanuva@gssn-5f754c20.pool.mediaWays.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[18:38]* tanuva (~tanuva@gssn-5f754c20.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #raspberrypi[18:38]* PiBot sets mode +v tanuva[18:38]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[18:38]* PiBot sets mode +v piers12345[18:40]<home> atouk: same here boss[18:43]<apollo> lots of percocet use in here?[18:43]<atouk> only once or twice a month for me[18:44]<atouk> blew a disc about 15 years ago[18:44]<atouk> gordon, you into radio?[18:47]* XenGi is now known as XenGi_[18:50]<gordonDrogon> I listen to radio 2 in the morning..[18:50]<gordonDrogon> but I suspect you mean software radio, or streaming, etc...[18:51]<atouk> mean't ham/etc[18:51]* ackthet is ham[18:51]<atouk> usually electronics guys have soe rf stuff going on at one time or another[18:51]<gordonDrogon> No.. not ham radio.[18:51]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[18:52]<gordonDrogon> Wishes I was, wished I'd gotten into it waaaayyyy back, but...[18:52]<gordonDrogon> I was into CB in the UK for a short while.[18:52]<gordonDrogon> Until my AM set got stolen..[18:52]<gordonDrogon> but it was slightly didgy back then anyway..[18:52]<atouk> thought you might be interested in what they're doing with those $10 tv dongles[18:53]<ackthet> just spend the 1k and get a flex radio, i hear its worth it[18:53]<ackthet> some of them are only 600[18:53]<ackthet> i actually had my first DX on one, though it wasnt mine[18:56]<atouk> well, for 10 bucks you get a dongle than can receive 25 mhz to 2 gig or so. lots of cool software getting done for it[18:56]* apollo (~apollo@unaffiliated/pkuk) has left #raspberrypi[18:56]<ackthet> but only RX right?[18:56]<atouk> yup[18:56]* apollo (~apollo@unaffiliated/pkuk) has joined #raspberrypi[18:56]* PiBot sets mode +v apollo[18:57]<atouk> still, as an intro to the hobby or an educational too, it pretty good[18:58]* tdy (~tdy@unaffiliated/tdy) has joined #raspberrypi[18:58]* PiBot sets mode +v tdy[18:58]<atouk> i'm betting the crossover between rpi hobbyists and radio hobbyists is pretty big[18:59]* peetaur2 (~peter@hmbg-4d06e780.pool.mediaWays.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[18:59]<gordonDrogon> possibly,[19:00]<gordonDrogon> but I think (well maybe in the UK!) that there is a bit snobbery involved in ham radio..[19:01]<gordonDrogon> I offered to give a local(ish) group a free workshop on the Pi as they'd emailled me with a few questions and they all went quiet..[19:01]<gordonDrogon> and apparently we have one of the biggest/most active groups almost on my doorstep, but no-ones heard of them - they don't make it easy to get in-touch with them.[19:01]<gordonDrogon> I think there could be a huge area of cross-over, but ...[19:02]* Cembo (~hardcoreB@unaffiliated/cembo) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[19:02]<gordonDrogon> Sadly, I just don't have the time right now to get involved though.[19:02]* AeroNotix (~xeno@aatr120.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) has joined #raspberrypi[19:02]* PiBot sets mode +v AeroNotix[19:02]<atouk> sounds like the old fashoned english private club mentality more than general ham group attitudes[19:02]<gordonDrogon> I think there is a bit of that.[19:02]<apollo> atouk: I've dabbled in both but never mixed the two.[19:03]<atouk> there's people using pis as a front end to strean sdr from antenna location via wifi[19:03]<atouk> now with the new ads-b front end, there's going to be more of that[19:04]<apollo> ads-b?[19:04]<atouk> signal sent from airplanes to report position, speed, direction, etc[19:04]* deep13 (~deep13@c-71-56-122-103.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: ...)[19:05]<apollo> like aprs?[19:05]* DexterLB (~angel@95-42-30-153.btc-net.bg) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[19:05]<apollo> I'm somewhat interested in hooking up a pi a gps and a radio to spurt out my whereabouts to the world via aprs.[19:06]* Armand (~martin@cpc17-haye16-2-0-cust427.haye.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[19:06]* PiBot sets mode +v Armand[19:06]* kkimlabs (~kkimlabs@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-06.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU) has joined #raspberrypi[19:06]* PiBot sets mode +v kkimlabs[19:07]* libto_ (~libto@essn-5d838d48.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #raspberrypi[19:07]* PiBot sets mode +v libto_[19:09]* libto (~libto@essn-5d83159d.pool.mediaWays.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:09]* trevorman (~tman@unaffiliated/trevorman) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:09]<U1D0> hi[19:09]<U1D0> question: expand_rootfs fails for you guys?[19:10]<U1D0> rebooted my pi after expand_rootfs and seems not to start[19:10]<gordonDrogon> apollo, the gps part is easy...[19:10]<gordonDrogon> U1D0, any messages at all?[19:10]<U1D0> gordonDrogon: all led seems fine[19:10]<U1D0> gordonDrogon: not able to check the rest[19:11]<U1D0> no ssh[19:11]<gordonDrogon> pingable?[19:11]<U1D0> no, my router sees no arp[19:11]<apollo> gordonDrogon: yeah, I've hacked some GPS stuff up before, but never tried any linux->radio stuff in the past.[19:12]<pksato> apollo: http://www.icrobotics.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Turning_the_Raspberry_Pi_Into_an_FM_Transmitter instead a audio, can be modulate aprs.[19:12]* XeCrypt (tuxuser@libxenon.org) has joined #raspberrypi[19:12]* PiBot sets mode +v XeCrypt[19:12]* trevorman (~tman@unaffiliated/trevorman) has joined #raspberrypi[19:12]* PiBot sets mode +v trevorman[19:12]* DexterLB (~angel@46.10.55.207) has joined #raspberrypi[19:12]* PiBot sets mode +v DexterLB[19:13]<atouk> ads-b example using http://x264.nl/dump/virtual-radar-server-adsb.jpg[19:13]* XeCrypt is now known as Tuxuser[19:13]<atouk> $10 dongle with free software[19:13]<apollo> pksato: I've read this??? he literally plug a length of copper wire into a gpio pin and transmits with that. Impressive.[19:14]* Holden (~holden@unaffiliated/holdenc) has joined #raspberrypi[19:14]* PiBot sets mode +v Holden[19:14]<gordonDrogon> yea, generated a 100MHz signal on it an FM'd it..[19:14]<gordonDrogon> somewhow...[19:14]* nx5_off (~nap@unaffiliated/nx5off/x-000000001) Quit (Quit: Disconnecting from stoned server.)[19:15]* nx5_off (~nap@unaffiliated/nx5off/x-000000001) has joined #raspberrypi[19:15]* PiBot sets mode +v nx5_off[19:15]<atouk> the guy that did broadcast tv via modulating a vga pin blew me away[19:15]<gordonDrogon> Hm. 30 years of ET...[19:15]<pksato> atouk: dvb-t too.[19:16]<gordonDrogon> I went to the british premier of ET...[19:16]<home> hey guys[19:16]<home> how do I get my wifi dongle working from cli?[19:16]<home> also, I don't have turbo mode[19:16]<gordonDrogon> although it was realy the scottish premier, but the 'british' didn't acknowledge it and held it in London 2 months later..[19:16]* DexterLB (~angel@46.10.55.207) Quit (Client Quit)[19:17]* DexterLB (~angel@46.10.55.207) has joined #raspberrypi[19:17]* PiBot sets mode +v DexterLB[19:17]* ahven (~kala@194.126.113.140) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:19]* kkimlabs (~kkimlabs@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-06.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:19]* kkimlabs (~kkimlabs@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-02.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU) has joined #raspberrypi[19:19]* PiBot sets mode +v kkimlabs[19:20]<home> heLLO[19:21]<atouk> 'lo[19:22]<home> need help getting temperature for rpi[19:22]<Gadget-Mac> atouk: whats this new ads-b front end ?[19:23]* Tuxuser is now known as XeCrypt[19:23]<atouk> www.sdrsharp.com[19:23]<gordonDrogon> home, why can't you use the normal temp. read stuff?[19:23]* zyoung (~zyoung@ip70-160-26-187.hr.hr.cox.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[19:23]<gordonDrogon> home, /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp[19:23]<atouk> in downloads. sends data to programs like planeplotter or virtual radar server[19:24]<gordonDrogon> I have a penplotter :)[19:24]<atouk> i have one pakced away somewhere too[19:24]<gordonDrogon> can't get the pens for it anymore )-:[19:24]<atouk> home. wifi connect problems?[19:26]* Datalink|Elsewhe is now known as Datalink[19:26]<Datalink> I have figured out my old connection issue... the lease on my router's expiring is coupled with a disconnect x.x[19:26]* DexterLB (~angel@46.10.55.207) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[19:27]<atouk> change to static[19:27]<Borgso> Anyone know if its possible to request MPEG2 lisence allready paid for? I have lost my email with it :/[19:27]* Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky[19:32]* DexterLB (~angel@82.137.115.245) has joined #raspberrypi[19:32]* PiBot sets mode +v DexterLB[19:32]* romero (~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/romero) has joined #raspberrypi[19:32]* PiBot sets mode +v romero[19:36]* Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk[19:39]* cccy_RegeaneWolf is now known as cccyRegeaneWolfe[19:40]<Gadget-Mac> atouk: Does a Pi have enough CPU to rund sdrsharp ?[19:40]<atouk> no[19:41]<atouk> but it can run rtlsdr and stream to sdr#[19:41]<buZz> what is sdr# ? network based ?[19:42]<Gadget-Mac> atouk: Ok sounds doable.[19:42]<atouk> can be. it will accept data via tcp, usb, or sound card[19:42]* Armand (~martin@cpc17-haye16-2-0-cust427.haye.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[19:42]<chris_99> software defined radio buZz[19:43]<mrhobbz> no one has any dingleberry pis in stock :|[19:45]* rinzler (~superdave@unaffiliated/superdave321) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[19:46]* Armand (~martin@cpc17-haye16-2-0-cust427.haye.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[19:46]* PiBot sets mode +v Armand[19:47]<Gadgetoid> Bloomin Christmas shopping! Haven't had time to solder up the ladder kit![19:47]* Alfihar (~Yuuka@siberios.co.uk) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[19:48]<Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: I watched your video, I now understand what you mean by blu-tac... amazing protip![19:50]* Yotson (~yot@2001:610:76a:0:54ac:207c:f176:33b2) Quit (Quit: ahum.)[19:51]* Alfihar (~Yuuka@siberios.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[19:51]* PiBot sets mode +v Alfihar[19:51]<buZz> ah, cool[19:51]<Gadget-Mac> atouk: Is there a decent ads-b setup for linux only ?[19:52]<Gadget-Mac> ideally doing something like[19:52]* kkimlabs (~kkimlabs@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-02.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[19:52]<Gadget-Mac> antenna->dongle->Pi-----Long Ethernet------>Linux Server[19:54]* XeCrypt is now known as Tuxuser[19:55]<Datalink> hmm, do folks here think I'll be able to use my Haupuage TV tuner USB stick with my Pi?[19:56]<Datalink> Borgso, you should be able to contact Raspberry Pi foundation, since it's tied to your device's serial number, they should be able to look up the prior purchase, I'd think.[19:56]<U1D0> what DDNS solutions are you using with your raspberry?[19:57]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[19:57]* PiBot sets mode +v piers12345[19:57]<nid0> none[19:58]* rinzler (~superdave@unaffiliated/superdave321) has joined #raspberrypi[19:58]* PiBot sets mode +v rinzler[19:59]* Tuxuser is now known as XeCrypt[20:02]* nils_2_ (~nils_2@unaffiliated/nils-2/x-2480262) has joined #raspberrypi[20:02]* PiBot sets mode +v nils_2_[20:04]* Alfihar (~Yuuka@siberios.co.uk) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[20:05]* nils_2 (~nils_2@unaffiliated/nils-2/x-2480262) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[20:06]<ParkerR_> Datalink, Getting a Hauppaige USB tuner stick working on a regular linux computer is a pita[20:06]<ParkerR_> *Hauppauge[20:06]<ParkerR_> I can't even imagine on the Pi[20:06]<ParkerR_> I have mine working in linux but only analog tuning[20:06]<buZz> i had dvb-s working over USB on linux for some time :)[20:06]<buZz> but i got bored with TV[20:07]<Datalink> yeah, I probably should get a purpose built RCA tuner, that's what I'm looking into doing anyway[20:07]<ParkerR_> I couldn't get the ATSC functionality working at all[20:07]* Cykey (~textual@modemcable119.94-162-184.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[20:07]<buZz> ParkerR_: for some devices, it works :D[20:08]<buZz> you could check some lists before purchasing ;)[20:08]<ParkerR_> It has linux support[20:08]* XeCrypt is now known as Tuxuser[20:08]<ParkerR_> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-850[20:08]* Tuxuser is now known as XeCrypt[20:09]<ParkerR_> I actually need to find that little bugger[20:09]<ParkerR_> Haven't seen it in a while[20:10]<gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, Ah yes Blu Tak! or blue Magic![20:10]<gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, I had one person email me asking what 'blue magic' was ;-)[20:11]* nils_2_ is now known as nils_2[20:11]<gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, have you soldered it up yet?[20:11]* EastLight (qu@5ac4afc3.bb.sky.com) Quit (Read error: Operation timed out)[20:11]* [SkG] (~sconde@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) has joined #raspberrypi[20:11]* PiBot sets mode +v [SkG][20:11]<Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: nope, not yet! was hoping to get it done tonight, there's still time! hitting the bath now though, bbl![20:12]<gordonDrogon> ok :)[20:16]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[20:17]* XeCrypt is now known as Tuxuser[20:18]* Tuxuser is now known as XeCrypt[20:21]* Holden (~holden@unaffiliated/holdenc) Quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)[20:21]* Mr_Sheesh_AFK is now known as Mr_Sheesh[20:21]* luigy (~luigy@pool-108-50-173-45.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #raspberrypi[20:21]* PiBot sets mode +v luigy[20:22]* johnthebear (~Johnthebe@c-24-11-165-154.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[20:23]* EastLight (qu@5ac4afc3.bb.sky.com) has joined #raspberrypi[20:23]* PiBot sets mode +v EastLight[20:23]* cave (~cave@178-191-224-243.adsl.highway.telekom.at) Quit (Quit: Verlassend)[20:23]* Opinie (~Opinie@95.211.188.53) Quit (Quit: Opinie)[20:24]* Nolaan (~nolaan@78.193.54.211) has joined #raspberrypi[20:24]* PiBot sets mode +v Nolaan[20:24]<Nolaan> hi![20:24]<Nolaan> i'm trying to cross compile ffmpeg[20:24]* XeCrypt is now known as Tuxuser[20:24]<Nolaan> but ld wont find my .so files[20:24]* Tuxuser is now known as XeCrypt[20:25]<Nolaan> even if they're there![20:26]* dj_pi (~asd@107.5.25.243) has joined #raspberrypi[20:26]* PiBot sets mode +v dj_pi[20:27]<Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: I was surprised by the RX/TX etc header option on the ladder board[20:31]* xCP23x (~xCP23x@212.183.128.168) has joined #raspberrypi[20:31]* PiBot sets mode +v xCP23x[20:31]* seesalt (~seasalt@5357D589.cm-6-8d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #raspberrypi[20:31]* PiBot sets mode +v seesalt[20:32]* rinzler (~superdave@unaffiliated/superdave321) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[20:33]* dividedbyzer0 (47ebd20b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.235.210.11) has joined #raspberrypi[20:33]* PiBot sets mode +v dividedbyzer0[20:33]* johnthebear (~Johnthebe@c-24-11-165-154.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[20:33]* PiBot sets mode +v johnthebear[20:33]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[20:33]* PiBot sets mode +v piers12345[20:33]* thetodd__ (~todd@50-196-163-213-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has joined #raspberrypi[20:33]* PiBot sets mode +v thetodd__[20:34]<thetodd__> hello! Does anyone have a good web site where I can order small (~3") USB cables?[20:34]<_Trullo> check frozen cpu[20:34]<thetodd__> preferably in the US, but UK is fine too[20:35]<home> guys[20:35]<home> how do I find the temperature of raspberry pi[20:35]* xCP23x (~xCP23x@212.183.128.168) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[20:36]<atouk> try /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp[20:37]<home> cool :D[20:37]<home> now all I need is turbo mode[20:37]<home> how to get? with cpufreq?[20:37]<home> I am using moebius[20:37]<home> getting 43 Celcius...idling :D[20:39]<cuzzo> Can you render directly to the framebuffer with OpenGL ES on the RPi?[20:39]<home> Nah[20:39]* stardiviner (~stardivin@122.236.242.237) Quit (Quit: my website: http://stardiviner.dyndns-blog.com/)[20:41]* cccyRegeaneWolfe is now known as cccy_RegeaneWolf[20:42]<piers12345> New post on piproject.pihosted.com gmail check lcd program[20:43]* Mikelevel (~M@60.Red-80-25-210.staticIP.rima-tde.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:43]<mrhobbz> .org *[20:43]<piers12345> .org[20:43]<piers12345> .com habit[20:43]* Mikelevel (~M@60.Red-80-25-210.staticIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #raspberrypi[20:43]* PiBot sets mode +v Mikelevel[20:43]<mrhobbz> lol[20:44]* lollo64it (~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[20:44]* unigee (~pi@cpc3-chwo7-2-0-cust429.perr.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[20:44]* PiBot sets mode +v unigee[20:45]* stanley (~stanley@unaffiliated/stanley) has joined #raspberrypi[20:45]* PiBot sets mode +v stanley[20:45]* thomashunter (~thomashun@c-67-167-132-241.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[20:45]* PiBot sets mode +v thomashunter[20:45]* rinzler (~superdave@unaffiliated/superdave321) has joined #raspberrypi[20:45]* PiBot sets mode +v rinzler[20:45]* halfhalo (halfhalo@nasadmin/webteam/halfhalo) Quit (Excess Flood)[20:46]* IT_Sean (~Ult_Ubunt@applefritter/IRCStaff/UltimateMacUser1) has joined #raspberrypi[20:46]* PiBot sets mode +v IT_Sean[20:47]<home> guys[20:47]<home> how do I use all my rasp pi memory?[20:47]<atouk> ?[20:47]<buZz> women[20:47]<home> I need to clean the memory/ minimalize it[20:47]<buZz> clean?[20:47]<buZz> did you get your memory dirty?[20:47]<atouk> turn it upsidwon over your head and shake it liek an etch-a-sketch. that clears it[20:48]* halfhalo (halfhalo@nasadmin/webteam/halfhalo) has joined #raspberrypi[20:48]* PiBot sets mode +v halfhalo[20:50]* dividedbyzer0 (47ebd20b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.235.210.11) Quit ()[20:50]* piney0 (~piney@pool-173-54-81-151.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) Quit (Changing host)[20:50]* piney0 (~piney@unaffiliated/piney0) has joined #raspberrypi[20:50]* ChanServ sets mode -v piney0[20:50]* PiBot sets mode +v piney0[20:51]<home> as in, lower the memory usage[20:51]<home> so I can get like 200MB of free memory :D[20:51]<buZz> ah[20:51]<buZz> are you running raspi headless? without a monitor?[20:52]<buZz> if so , you could put gpu_mem all the way down[20:52]<home> yeah[20:52]<buZz> and you could just stop all the services you dont want to use[20:52]<home> how?[20:52]<home> do I put gpu_mem down[20:52]<buZz> edit /boot/config.txt[20:52]<home> and?[20:52]<buZz> there is website mentioned in that file[20:52]<buZz> read it :)[20:52]<home> mine is empty[20:52]<home> damn you guys[20:53]<home> all I ever wanted was IRC hjelp :([20:53]* cccy_RegeaneWolf is now known as cccyRegeaneWolfe[20:53]<atouk> some days, this is a good as IRC help gets ;)[20:53]<atouk> which image are you using[20:53]<buZz> http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt[20:53]<buZz> home: check out that page[20:54]<home> can I turn gpu mem to 0?[20:54]<piney0> home, no, gpu is the bootloader[20:54]<home> booboo.. :/[20:54]<chithead> 16mb is the minimum[20:55]* IT_Sean (~Ult_Ubunt@applefritter/IRCStaff/UltimateMacUser1) Quit (Quit: IT_Sean)[20:55]* Alfihar (~Yuuka@siberios.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[20:55]* PiBot sets mode +v Alfihar[20:55]* xrosnight (~alex@27.197.67.240) has left #raspberrypi[20:57]<home> what's force_turbo[20:57]<home> I can't edit turbo[20:57]<home> is there a way to do it from the config file?[20:58]* DarkTherapy (~DarkThera@adsl-213-249-218-249.karoo.kcom.com) has joined #raspberrypi[20:58]* PiBot sets mode +v DarkTherapy[20:59]<ParkerR_> home, http://elinux.org/RPiconfig#force_turbo_mode[20:59]<DarkTherapy> evening all[20:59]* kcj (~casey@unaffiliated/kcj) has joined #raspberrypi[20:59]* PiBot sets mode +v kcj[21:00]<home> ParkerR_: but, how do I specify which settings it should use?[21:01]<ParkerR_> Use the other options like arm_freq_min and such[21:01]<ParkerR_> http://elinux.org/RPiconfig#Overclocking_options[21:01]<ParkerR_> Oh hmm[21:01]* piers12345 (~piers1234@188-220-174-108.zone11.bethere.co.uk) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[21:01]<ParkerR_> home, 1 just tells it to stay maxed[21:02]<ParkerR_> So it will max to the values you set with arm_freq and suchj[21:02]* Cykey (~textual@modemcable119.94-162-184.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi[21:02]* Cykey (~textual@modemcable119.94-162-184.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Client Quit)[21:02]<home> ah[21:02]<home> so the min, makes it back to 700?[21:02]<ParkerR_> All the *_freq's[21:02]<ParkerR_> home, I was confused witht he min. The min is useless with force_turbo=1[21:02]<ParkerR_> *with[21:03]* dero (~dero@p548B499F.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[21:03]* Cykey (~textual@modemcable119.94-162-184.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi[21:03]* PiBot sets mode +v Cykey[21:03]* cccyRegeaneWolfe is now known as cccy_RegeaneWolf[21:03]* dero (~dero@p548B54BE.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #raspberrypi[21:03]* PiBot sets mode +v dero[21:04]* thetodd__ (~todd@50-196-163-213-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has left #raspberrypi[21:04]* Yotson (~yot@2001:980:6ac8:1:2851:dd43:b617:1ccc) has joined #raspberrypi[21:04]* PiBot sets mode +v Yotson[21:08]* luigy (~luigy@pool-108-50-173-45.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[21:15]* DarkTherapy (~DarkThera@adsl-213-249-218-249.karoo.kcom.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:16]* piney0 is now known as piney[21:16]* i42n (~i42n@dslb-188-104-208-063.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #raspberrypi[21:16]* PiBot sets mode +v i42n[21:16]* AeroNotix (~xeno@aatr120.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) Quit (Quit: Uploading hax.....)[21:16]<chris_99> guess you guys have seen this http://www.icrobotics.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Turning_the_Raspberry_Pi_Into_an_FM_Transmitter[21:17]* dero (~dero@p548B54BE.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:18]* unigee (~pi@cpc3-chwo7-2-0-cust429.perr.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit (Quit: leaving)[21:20]* dj_pi (~asd@107.5.25.243) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[21:25]* monkers wishes he could actually purchase a raspberry pi :l[21:27]* Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky[21:29]* sraue (~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue) Quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)[21:31]* N0_Named_Guy (~Someone@a89-153-113-53.cpe.netcabo.pt) Quit (Quit: Bye bye =))[21:31]<Joeboy> I got a friend to donate mine[21:31]<Joeboy> I think quite a lot of people have bought them and subsequently realised they don't really have a use for them[21:32]<Joeboy> (boring, unimaginative people)[21:33]<monkers> hrmph...[21:33]<monkers> i noticed a lot of jackasses on ebay bought a bunch to hike up the prices.[21:33]<monkers> thats real cute. i hope they burn in hell.[21:34]* N0_Named_Guy (~Someone@a89-153-113-53.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #raspberrypi[21:34]* PiBot sets mode +v N0_Named_Guy[21:34]* Kripton is now known as kripton[21:35]* kkimlabs (~kkimlabs@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-03.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU) has joined #raspberrypi[21:35]* PiBot sets mode +v kkimlabs[21:36]* stardiviner (~stardivin@122.236.241.237) has joined #raspberrypi[21:36]* PiBot sets mode +v stardiviner[21:37]* Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk[21:37]* i42n (~i42n@dslb-188-104-208-063.pools.arcor-ip.net) Quit (Quit: i42n)[21:39]* EastLight (qu@5ac4afc3.bb.sky.com) Quit ()[21:39]* sraue (~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue) has joined #raspberrypi[21:39]* PiBot sets mode +v sraue[21:39]* Holden (~holden@unaffiliated/holdenc) has joined #raspberrypi[21:39]* PiBot sets mode +v Holden[21:41]<home> How do I get wifi working GUYS[21:41]<ChauffeR> you stick your finger in it[21:41]* markbook (~markllama@pool-74-104-180-140.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #raspberrypi[21:41]* PiBot sets mode +v markbook[21:41]<ChauffeR> [I don't know][21:42]<Gadget-Mac> home: Do you have a verified adaptor ?[21:43]<home> how to chyeck :D[21:43]<home> it works on my lappt (linux) automatically[21:44]* Holden (~holden@unaffiliated/holdenc) Quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)[21:46]* jxriddle (~jxriddle@ip-69-27-56-206.slm.blueriver.net) Quit (Quit: jxriddle)[21:46]<ChauffeR> home, `rfkill list wifi` on linux, not sure what'd you do on a raspberry since it depends on the os I guess[21:47]* Alfihar (~Yuuka@siberios.co.uk) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[21:47]<home> ChauffeR: what?[21:47]<ChauffeR> it's a command[21:48]<buZz> hmm, you use to do rpi-updater 192[21:48]<buZz> is that now gpu_mem=192 ?[21:48]* thomashunter (~thomashun@c-67-167-132-241.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: thomashunter)[21:48]<buZz> or would that be gpu_mem=64[21:49]* TAFB_zzz is now known as TAFB[21:49]* luigy (~luigy@pool-108-50-173-45.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #raspberrypi[21:49]* PiBot sets mode +v luigy[21:50]<home> ChauffeR: it didn't work on rpi, but on my lappy[21:50]<ChauffeR> home, well do you know the name of this usb dongle[21:50]<buZz> i bet its 64 ..[21:50]* geordie (~geordie@96.49.136.73) has joined #raspberrypi[21:50]* PiBot sets mode +v geordie[21:51]<TAFB> home: You running Wheezy? there's a wifi config gui in xwindows "startx" :)[21:51]* fayimora (~fayimora@host86-140-213-90.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[21:51]<TAFB> home: sorry if that's already been mentioned, I just got here :)[21:52]<TAFB> you can see the icon at the top here: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/RaspberryPi_VNC_desktop_wireless.png[21:52]<home> not running xserver[21:52]<home> I am running headless[21:52]<home> ChauffeR: yeah[21:53]<home> from RPI: Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0ace:1215 ZyDAS ZD1211B 802.11g[21:53]<TAFB> home: headless with what? you could apt-get install x11vnc and fire up X and it'll write all your wireless config files. No need to use X after the config ;)[21:53]<megaproxy> oh TAFB[21:53]<megaproxy> im about to go smoke[21:53]<megaproxy> but when im back, i need a hand with piwww[21:53]<TAFB> megaproxy: I'm a gui kinda guy![21:53]<TAFB> megaproxy: Oh great :( lol[21:53]<megaproxy> :P[21:53]<home> TAFB: I understand, but I am limited in space too[21:53]<megaproxy> there is no readme in your zip![21:54]<home> shouldn't there be a way to do this from the CLI ?[21:54]<TAFB> megaproxy: that's impossible :)[21:54]<ChauffeR> um[21:54]<TAFB> home: There for sure is, but it's a huge pain in the !!!?!?[21:54]<ChauffeR> home, what do you want to do[21:54]<ChauffeR> on what distro[21:54]<TAFB> home: Look up wpa supplicant stuff, to manually config your wifi connection[21:54]<home> Its raspbian based, called moebius[21:54]* lollo64it (~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it) has joined #raspberrypi[21:54]* PiBot sets mode +v lollo64it[21:54]<ChauffeR> debian?[21:55]<home> yeah[21:55]<ChauffeR> doesn't archlinux like uh work on raspberry pi[21:55]<home> yeah[21:55]<ChauffeR> if you want good support, get that, their wiki is the best you'll ever find[21:56]<pksato> home: first, wifi is working? ifconfig wlan0 up; iwlist wlan0 scan (if no errors and show near APs, is ok)[21:56]<home> nope[21:56]<TAFB> home: follow pksato's commands, he will fix you up[21:57]<pksato> next, create a wpa-supplicant config profile (copy one working)[21:58]<pksato> and.... I forget how do next.[21:59]* bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) has joined #raspberrypi[21:59]* PiBot sets mode +v bertrik[22:00]* peetaur2 (~peter@hmbg-4d06e780.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #raspberrypi[22:00]* PiBot sets mode +v peetaur2[22:01]* CelticTurnip (~celt@unaffiliated/celticturnip) has joined #raspberrypi[22:01]* PiBot sets mode +v CelticTurnip[22:01]<CelticTurnip> hi all[22:02]* fayimora (~fayimora@host86-140-213-90.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) has joined #raspberrypi[22:02]* PiBot sets mode +v fayimora[22:02]<TAFB> hey CelticTurnip![22:03]<CelticTurnip> hey TAFB :)[22:05]* kkimlabs (~kkimlabs@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-03.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[22:06]<TAFB> I tweaked my status page so it now displays the Pi's locale setting, it's ip address, your ip address, the top 10 memory and CPU hogs! with complete config.txt and /etc/networks :) http://toysareforboys.no-ip.info:8000/[22:07]* Milos|Netbook (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) has joined #raspberrypi[22:07]* PiBot sets mode +v Milos|Netbook[22:08]<atouk> put the README back into the zip[22:08]<TAFB> atouk: yeah, mega told me it was missing, I'm putting it in now :)[22:08]* fayimora (~fayimora@host86-140-213-90.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[22:10]<TAFB> ok, zip fixed, checking...[22:10]<TAFB> atouk: works :)[22:10]<CelticTurnip> \o/[22:12]<TAFB> CelticTurnip: Did it get your right IP? I was having problems with it spitting out numbers like 192.168.x.x :)[22:12]* Milos|Netbook (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[22:12]<CelticTurnip> I didn't look, we block a heap of ports here at work[22:13]<TAFB> CelticTurnip: ahh :) i can't move it to port 80 yet till I get the last and remaining server moved onto the pi :)[22:13]* NIN101 (~NIN@p5DD2892B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Quit: NIN101)[22:13]<TAFB> once I get Citadel set up it'll be on :80 :)[22:14]<CelticTurnip> I've been talking to our new management about getting a bit more net friendly, rather than blocking everything... but it's the end of the year for me, and I can't be bothered logging on to our routers :)[22:14]* jthunder (~jthunder@174.3.126.51) has joined #raspberrypi[22:14]* PiBot sets mode +v jthunder[22:15]<gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, ah yes, the 'expansion' header...[22:15]<buZz> hehe[22:15]<Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Nice touch![22:15]* buZz is compiling quake3 on raspi[22:15]<gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, and note that it's 5v not 3.3...[22:15]<gordonDrogon> the silksreen is wrong.[22:15]<buZz> powered by battery :D (motorola lapdocks battery)[22:16]<gordonDrogon> it's really for a buzzer, but I never got round to specifying one in-time. I now have one and may do a future article though.[22:17]* Empty_One (~empty@CPE-72-131-74-201.wi.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi[22:17]* PiBot sets mode +v Empty_One[22:17]* AeroNotix (~xeno@aatr120.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) has joined #raspberrypi[22:17]* PiBot sets mode +v AeroNotix[22:17]<TAFB> buZz: Good luck with Quake3 :) did you get the .pak files in the q3demo folder? That part of the instructions is retarded :([22:17]<buZz> i think i have the pak fiels[22:17]<buZz> files*[22:17]* datagutt (~datagutt@unaffiliated/datagutt) Quit (Quit: kthxbai)[22:17]* XeCrypt is now known as Tuxuser[22:17]<buZz> dno where they need to go but i'll figure it out[22:18]* Empty_One (~empty@CPE-72-131-74-201.wi.res.rr.com) Quit (Client Quit)[22:18]<home> okay[22:18]<TAFB> dig into the quake folder and look for q3demo folder, the .pak files have to end up in there.[22:18]<buZz> it feels funny to compile this huge program on a battery powered raspi[22:18]<TAFB> buZz: I bet :) What's tp1-tp2 voltage?[22:19]<buZz> cant measure now ..[22:19]<TAFB> pffft[22:19]<buZz> but power from lapdock seems really proper[22:19]<buZz> can easily run 4 usb devices[22:19]<TAFB> buZz: Important to measure tp1-tp2, power consumption during quake3 is pretty crazy ;)[22:19]<buZz> heh[22:19]<buZz> we'll see ;)[22:20]<buZz> first i should experience a problem, before i try to fix it[22:20]<TAFB> buZz: Yeah, such short path to the power supply = good stable power :)[22:20]* Alfihar (~Yuuka@siberios.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[22:20]* PiBot sets mode +v Alfihar[22:20]<TAFB> buZz: My feeling is that it's always good to know if you're "close to the edge" so you can do something about it before it happens (and currupts your sd card, etc.) :)[22:21]<buZz> true true[22:21]<buZz> but everything i have on SD is just downloaded from the internet anway[22:21]<buZz> so pff[22:21]<Yotson> TAFB: no reverse lookup? :)[22:21]<buZz> it can corrupt :)[22:21]<buZz> hey Yotson ![22:21]<Yotson> hi buZz :)[22:21]<TAFB> Yotson: I'm not good with ip/dns stuff, not sure what you mean.[22:21]<buZz> :P[22:22]<Yotson> rpi has my correct ip, my ip also resolves to a name.[22:22]<TAFB> Yotson: I know I need it, but don't have it cause my ISP doesn't support it, plus I have dynamic ip address (they don't offer static) :([22:22]<TAFB> Yotson: 100mbps download, and no static! AHHHHHH![22:22]<buZz> just never release your dhcp lease ;)[22:22]<buZz> keep it foreverrrr[22:23]* Milos (Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[22:23]<TAFB> Yotson: I switched to ISP that had static IP and reverse DNS support but they block port 25 incoming, so my mail server wouldn't run unless I paid for a mail relay, which was expensive slow and unreliable :([22:23]* Milos_ (Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) has joined #raspberrypi[22:23]* PiBot sets mode +v Milos_[22:23]<Yotson> TAFB: nice page anyway. :)[22:23]<TAFB> buZz: The DHCP lease time from ISP in 7 days, automatically refreshes.[22:23]<TAFB> Yotson: Thank you :)[22:28]<gordonDrogon> some ISPs can force a release/renew...[22:28]<gordonDrogon> sad there's so many poor ones about.[22:29]<gordonDrogon> I get a static /29 IPv4 and a /56 IPv6 - no direct reverse dns control over the IPv4, but it's just an email away. Not sure about reverse on ipv6 yet - they say they can handle it, but ...[22:30]<TAFB> poor ISP's? yeah. Give you fast speed, but frown on running a server! And 100mbps download and 2mbps upload? gimme a break! http://www.speedtest.net/result/2376827100.png[22:32]* _Trullo (~33guff@90-231-190-172-no124.tbcn.telia.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[22:33]<gordonDrogon> well onday 'superfast' might come to my town, but I'm not holding my breath for it![22:35]<TAFB> gordonDrogon: I want to move to this place, 100mbps down and 100mbps up for $150US/mo, unlimited bandwidth! SIGN ME UP! http://www.greenlightnc.com/about/internet/[22:36]* peetaur2 (~peter@hmbg-4d06e780.pool.mediaWays.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:36]* UnaClocker (~una@c-67-185-8-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[22:36]* PiBot sets mode +v UnaClocker[22:36]* nils_2 (~nils_2@unaffiliated/nils-2/x-2480262) Quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0-dev)[22:36]<gordonDrogon> no such thing as unlimited. somethings got to give somewhere - and just 10 people means that their Gb backbone is contended after that, so they need 10Gb+ backbone and lots of them...[22:37]* Alfihar (~Yuuka@siberios.co.uk) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[22:37]<TAFB> gordonDrogon: Yeah. My ISP threatened to cut me off because I downloaded 3.8TB last month :([22:38]<TAFB> i had to agree to let them throttle my torrents to 1MB/sec :([22:39]<atouk> tafb, i made a couple edits to the readme. replace the one in the zip with the new one[22:39]<pksato> I get a my second SD corruption .[22:39]<home> well[22:39]<home> I almost have my wifi usb setup[22:39]<home> so thats great[22:39]<UnaClocker> SD Corruption is a PITA.. :) I got my first one at 1.15GHz..[22:39]<home> now, to get AP mode working :D[22:39]<home> anyone know how to make an RPI into an AP?[22:40]<pksato> this time, fsck.ext4 dont help.[22:40]<Gadgetoid> home: remove the letters Rspberry i ?[22:40]<TAFB> atouk: will do[22:41]<atouk> http://69.126.35.213:8000/[22:41]<atouk> in case you lost it[22:41]<TAFB> Gadgetoid: OMG LOL! rofl :)[22:41]* tanuva (~tanuva@gssn-5f754c20.pool.mediaWays.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[22:42]<pksato> Power instability cause FS corruption.[22:42]<Gadgetoid> That's been your bad joke of the day, subscribe now for future bad joke editions![22:43]<TAFB> Gadgetoid: subscribed :)[22:43]* xCP23x (~xCP23x@212.183.128.168) has joined #raspberrypi[22:43]* PiBot sets mode +v xCP23x[22:43]* thomashunter (~thomashun@ip-64-134-39-7.public.wayport.net) has joined #raspberrypi[22:43]* PiBot sets mode +v thomashunter[22:43]<Gadgetoid> My iMac hates me.[22:44]<TAFB> atouk: Would you like me to add my modifications to readme.txt "3rd party mod" for my TAFB edition index.php?[22:45]<atouk> yeah, what, and why helps anyone reading the code, unless you want to add comments inside it[22:45]<home> well, I got my wifi adapter set up[22:45]<home> too bad its not N[22:45]<home> its a wireless G one[22:45]<TAFB> home: Congrats :)[22:45]<home> wish I could extend the range somehow[22:46]<TAFB> home: got a link for the wifi adapter? I have a high power one, I steal my neighbours wireless, he's 21km away ;)[22:46]<home> this is the link I used to set it up: http://omer.me/2012/04/setting-up-wireless-networks-under-debian-on-raspberry-pi/[22:46]<home> HOLY SHIt[22:47]<TAFB> nice. which adapter you using? :)[22:47]<home> this thing supports injection support >.>[22:47]* jxriddle (~jxriddle@ip-69-27-56-206.slm.blueriver.net) has joined #raspberrypi[22:47]* PiBot sets mode +v jxriddle[22:47]<home> ZyDAS ZD1211B[22:47]<home> its really weak[22:47]<home> but it gets the job done..and I bought of from my neighbour for like 2 dollahs[22:47]* Kane (~Kane@5.42.197.77.rev.sfr.net) Quit (Quit: Night all o/)[22:48]<TAFB> home: Ahh yes, no antenna connection, could probably open it up and connect it to 3 watt amp ;)[22:48]<home> I have it open[22:48]<TAFB> do you see the antenna?[22:48]<home> yeah[22:48]<home> it says "ANT1"[22:50]<TAFB> nice. I've cut those up to run the antenna connection to an amp before (with outdoor high gain Yagi antenna)[22:50]* XenGi_ is now known as XenGi[22:51]* jxriddle (~jxriddle@ip-69-27-56-206.slm.blueriver.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[22:53]* UnaClocker (~una@c-67-185-8-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: I'll be back another time)[22:56]* Shy (Shy@pdpc/supporter/bronze/shy) Quit ()[22:56]* Yotson (~yot@2001:980:6ac8:1:2851:dd43:b617:1ccc) Quit (Quit: ahum.)[22:58]<Armand> Anyone care to advise on a setup to switch from solar/battery to mains when the batteries run out?[22:58]<home> TAFB: hmm..I want to extend the range of this :D[22:59]<Armand> I'm already looking at a transformer to give me the 12v DC I need.. just need to figure out the switching to the mains backup.[22:59]<Gadget-Mac> Armand: Something like http://linitx.com/product/13187[23:00]<Gadget-Mac> Although the downside is the mains is always running ?[23:00]<Armand> The mains will be constant.[23:00]<Armand> At least, always available.[23:01]<Gadget-Mac> So why bother with the solar / battery ?[23:01]<Armand> That's the core of my project.. I'm just looking to avoid any downtime.[23:02]<Gadget-Mac> Just curious, cost of the solar system will buy alot of electric.[23:02]<Armand> I know.[23:02]<buZz> man, ok, i knew quake3 ran decent on raspi, but this really is very nice!!![23:02]<Gadget-Mac> What you should do is monitor the battery, and switch the mains on before it drops out :)[23:03]<Armand> Gadget-Mac, it's just a principle.. there's only a small amount of logical approach. :P[23:03]<Gadget-Mac> Sure. Just checking.[23:03]<Armand> Gadget-Mac, that would be ideal.. if it's automatic.[23:03]<Gadget-Mac> But that y-pwr thing should do what you want[23:03]<TAFB> home: It'd be more worth while to purchase super high power USB adapter: http://www.engeniustech.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=87:discontinued-eol&id=296:80211g-high-power-250mw-long-range-wireless-g-usb-adapter-with-detachable-antenna-and-superg-108mbps&Itemid=121[23:04]<TAFB> buZz: Congrats! I love q3 on the Pi, really shows off the power[23:04]<pksato> Armand: simple power switch can made using diodes.[23:04]* tristanj (~tristan@d137-186-212-242.abhsia.telus.net) has joined #raspberrypi[23:04]* PiBot sets mode +v tristanj[23:04]<TAFB> Armand: I run a Pi from a solar powered flashlight, when the lights go out it can run for 14.5 hours from the batteries.[23:04]<Armand> Gadget-Mac, my 12v regulator is rated to 30A.. I intend to make use of it. ;)[23:04]<TAFB> Armand: Have not looked at a solution to make it switch to mains yet.[23:04]<home> TAFB: that is awesome :D I want to power my RPI from a battery :P[23:05]<Armand> TAFB, I'm looking at running more than 1. ;)[23:05]<TAFB> plz hold for link.[23:05]<TAFB> This flashlight puts out 2.5amps at 5v, runs the Pi FLAWLESS: http://kaidomain.com/product/details.S020383[23:06]<TAFB> recharges by MiniUSB, no need to remove batteries.[23:06]<Armand> Sweet. :)[23:06]<TAFB> for batteries use these ones (3): http://www.intl-outdoor.com/2-pcs-panasonic-ncr18650b-3400mah-protected-battery-p-605.html[23:06]<buZz> TAFB: yeah, and works fine on battery, providing i remove all overclocking options ;)[23:06]<Armand> Ahh, yes.. I recall, TAFB[23:07]<TAFB> buZz: Yeah, quake3 + overclock = not good :) not sure which part is doing it, I think the dynamic clock.[23:07]<tristanj> Not meaning to interrupt, but does anyone have any experience with AirTunes on ras pi?[23:07]<Armand> pksato, someone else said that.. I haven't the first idea how that would work. :P[23:08]<pksato> Armand: basic eletronics.[23:08]<Armand> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110972864325?var=410146163053&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649[23:08]<CelticTurnip> tristanj: I use XBian with XBMC 1.0 release candidate 1 (and required fixes), AirTunes works perfectly for audio, pictures, and video[23:08]<Armand> That's what I'm looking at for supplying the 12v DC.[23:08]<TAFB> this is the solar power panel I use, 5v output at 1600ma if super sunny, about 800ma when cloudy: http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4930/img3067p.jpg[23:09]<Armand> pksato, I haven't messed with serious electronics since school.. 19-20 years ago. :P[23:09]<pksato> or can buy some system to manage solar power systemms.[23:09]<TAFB> you can buy the solar panel and ultra high efficiency 5v converter from this guy: http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?229002-FS-Solar-Powered-amp-USB-Chargers-2-panels-added[23:09]<TAFB> :)[23:09]<Armand> I have a solar charge regulator, but it doesn't include any monitoring or switching.[23:10]<tristanj> So the issue I'm having is that all the solutions I have found seem to be one way: use ras pi to receive music and play it out to speakers. I am looking to have the ras pi transmit music to an airport express (with speakers attached), and I'd like to be able to do it from the command-line/ssh...[23:10]* Alfihar (~Yuuka@siberios.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[23:10]* PiBot sets mode +v Alfihar[23:10]* mdim (~user@c-98-202-219-86.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[23:10]* PiBot sets mode +v mdim[23:10]<Armand> TAFB, that's all too small for what I'm doing.[23:10]* SgrA (~sgra@unaffiliated/sgra) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[23:11]<CelticTurnip> tristanj: that's not airplay, you're talking about setting up a media streaming server (using dlna/upnp whatever you want to call it)[23:12]<CelticTurnip> I have servers at home that do that, it's not what I use my Pi for - sorry[23:12]* lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk[23:12]<home> coool[23:12]<tristanj> Celtic: airplay then refers only to the receiving end?[23:12]* lrusak (~lrusak@174.4.168.102) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:13]<home> thats weird[23:13]<home> my 900mhz oc is not working[23:13]<CelticTurnip> airplay is a way of streaming content that is playing to another device, what you're talking about is media streaming[23:14]<TAFB> home: did you use raspi-config?[23:14]<home> my distro did not have it[23:14]* _Trullo (~33guff@90-231-190-172-no124.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[23:14]* PiBot sets mode +v _Trullo[23:14]<TAFB> home: did you see my config.txt? http://toysareforboys.no-ip.info:8000/[23:15]<TAFB> home: I've used those overclocking settings on quite a few Pi's. Works flawless for everything except quake3 :)[23:15]* RaycisCharles (RaycisChar@cpc20-lutn10-2-0-cust20.9-3.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[23:15]* PiBot sets mode +v RaycisCharles[23:17]* lrusak (~lrusak@174.4.168.102) has joined #raspberrypi[23:17]* PiBot sets mode +v lrusak[23:17]<home> is over_voltage = 6 safe?[23:17]<gordonDrogon> part of the standard turbo settings isn't it?[23:17]* lollo64it (~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[23:17]<TAFB> home: super safe. Way below the warranty void level (only 1.35v max)[23:18]<home> well, time to test XD[23:18]<TAFB> gordonDrogon: Could be, was built by axion here for me. 42% improvment in BogoMIPS over stock Pi :)[23:18]<home> yours is 512M :P[23:18]<home> I need to get one of those[23:18]<gordonDrogon> I've stopped overclocking for now.[23:18]<TAFB> home: works soo good :)[23:19]<home> that is some awesome page setup you have there :P[23:19]<home> I could use that XD[23:19]<TAFB> home: source is at the bottom ;)[23:19]<TAFB> super easy to set up[23:19]<TAFB> wheezy + pancake + php = done[23:20]<TAFB> or works with apache and others[23:20]<TAFB> needs php[23:20]<home> could I make one for Python?[23:20]<home> hmm[23:22]* dr_willis (~dr_willis@2601:d:a180:2b:705c:fbc8:d42b:4826) has joined #raspberrypi[23:22]* PiBot sets mode +v dr_willis[23:23]<JohnRambozo> Has anyone ever tried to compile Synchronet on Raspbian?[23:24]* SgrA (~sgra@unaffiliated/sgra) has joined #raspberrypi[23:24]* PiBot sets mode +v SgrA[23:24]* mgottschlag (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) has joined #raspberrypi[23:24]* PiBot sets mode +v mgottschlag[23:26]* tripleXXX (~bizarro_1@88.13.166.30) has joined #raspberrypi[23:26]* PiBot sets mode +v tripleXXX[23:26]<dr_willis> Hmm.. This raspxbmc disrto is.. well.. works very well ;)[23:26]* johnthebear (~Johnthebe@c-24-11-165-154.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[23:27]<dr_willis> Playing better then a lot of other media player box's i have.[23:27]<TAFB> dr_willis: Nice, when I get a few more Pi's i'ma try it out :)[23:27]<dr_willis> it was just a little weird in how it installs.. it sort of 'self installs' ;)[23:27]<TAFB> I have an Aios box now, works so flawless not sure if I want to change :)[23:27]* bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@30.Red-88-13-166.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[23:27]<dr_willis> I have a collection of Media-player set top type boxs - the wife basically only watches video files.. Old shows all day long.[23:28]* Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky[23:28]* Weaselweb (~quassel@77-64-181-50.dynamic.primacom.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[23:28]<dr_willis> If one ever dies.. its case will become a RaspPi case ;)[23:28]<TAFB> haha[23:29]<TAFB> you'll have to get the "RPi Inside" sticker for it if you do ;)[23:29]<dr_willis> I did find today the 'otterbox' guys make a Small water proof case designed to hold Zippo Lighters.. with the foam removed a RPi fits exactly inside.. waterproof to 100ft it says[23:29]<dr_willis> got one at a Tobacco store for $7[23:30]<TAFB> nice! Not going to run it inside it though right?[23:30]<dr_willis> Heavy duty plastic.. but i dont think i can machine it to fit wher it can run. the accecss holes would be right where the hinges and hasps are.[23:30]<dr_willis> but its good to put my Pi in if im carrying it somewhere.[23:31]<TAFB> dr_willis: don't overcook your pi ;) brb guys, dinner :)[23:31]<dr_willis> so i guess you can call it a 'transport' case. ;)[23:31]* TAFB is now known as TAFB_eatin[23:31]<JohnRambozo> I do not care for this compile error...[23:31]<JohnRambozo> any ideas?[23:31]<TAFB_eatin> JohnRambozo: I've only compiled twice, worked flawless both time, so I do not know how your pain feels.[23:32]* Jever (~Jever@unaffiliated/jever) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[23:34]<SpeedEvil> sort-of-on-topic.[23:34]* luigy (~luigy@pool-108-50-173-45.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"])[23:35]<SpeedEvil> I have just emptied, sorted and refilled my freezer.[23:35]<SpeedEvil> I have 22kg of frozen raspberries. and a pie case.[23:36]<atouk> 22 kios will make one BIG pie[23:37]<home> TAFB_eatin: I think my RPI is stuck at running at 400 mhz XD[23:37]* Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk[23:44]* chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[23:44]* [SkG] (~sconde@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:44]* tinti (~tinti@201.62.162.119) has joined #raspberrypi[23:44]* PiBot sets mode +v tinti[23:44]* tinti (~tinti@201.62.162.119) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:45]* yinkum (~yinkum@cpe-72-135-30-188.kc.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi[23:45]* PiBot sets mode +v yinkum[23:45]* Mr_P (~gerhard@chello080108255018.3.14.vie.surfer.at) has joined #raspberrypi[23:45]* PiBot sets mode +v Mr_P[23:45]* Armand (~martin@cpc17-haye16-2-0-cust427.haye.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[23:49]* hesperaux (~hesperaux@c-71-194-191-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[23:50]* nichlas (~root@95.154.36.153) has joined #raspberrypi[23:50]* PiBot sets mode +v nichlas[23:53]* xCP23x (~xCP23x@212.183.128.168) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[23:55]* nichlas (~root@95.154.36.153) Quit (Quit: leaving)[23:55]* Milos|Netbook (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) has joined #raspberrypi[23:55]* PiBot sets mode +v Milos|Netbook[23:58]* felipealmeida (~user@mvx-187-16-79-187.mundivox.com) has joined #raspberrypi[23:58]* PiBot sets mode +v felipealmeida[23:58]* Torikun (~yaaic@76-220-9-159.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)