Wouldn't call it "Pure BJJ" But working security I did a hell of alot of RNC, I eithen changed the way I would do it each time.

One TIme this polynesian guy throw a punch at me I parried his hit and went straight for the RNC however this time I kicked out the back if his heels and stepped back so his weight rested on my applied choke,

Lets just say the guy would not wake up for over 5 mins and I freaked out lol that was my Last RNC, As for taking people out of the bar alot of arm locks involved there Finger splays were fun too...

I've used the omaplata on two bad guys. I don't know if you can call that BJJ, as I've seen Rowdy Rody Piper use it long before Gracie was a twinkle in America's eye. But, I haven't had a street fight since high school. So, no.

only once. got in a scuffle with a drunk guy who thought I was someone else at a concert venue that we both frequented. He wouldn't listen to reason, and sucker punched me and knocked me down, clocked me really good several times actually, my head was spinning for a bit. he then attempted to jump on me and slipped off the side of my ribcage, ended up coming down to the ground with me...I got him in my guard as fast as I could, still had hazy vision from the blows to the head, and was really scared, but basic training came through and I locked up a (sloppy) triangle. He, of course, picked me up and, lucky enough I grabbed his leg and prevented him from raising me too far off the ground. Still, getting slammed even from a foot off the pavement was fucking nasty. I held the triangle til he passed out, and then got up and stumbled off. My back was fucked for a week after that, bruised up, spine and shoulders hurt when I turned at certain angles....I certainly wouldn't recommend it on the hard concrete, but I was damn glad that I had some ground training when it happened.

I finally started training in a academy that offers BJJ and suddently it no longer works in the streets other posters says judoka are as good with their groundwork, if the judoka are as good with their groundwork but also are better with throws!? what is left? the spider guard for streetfighting??

Originally Posted by AKRhino

In my (admittedly limited) experience as a BJJ guy who's fairly new to Judo, I've found that, generally speaking, the better Judo guys aren't necessarily worse at ground work, but they are more specialized. There's likely a ton of reasons for that, and I think it makes sense, given the differences in the sports. I wouldn't advise a Judo guy spend much time working their spider guard, for example, as you're unlikely to have time to do much with it before you're stood up. So in that way, I think the regular jits guy has a much more diverse guard, in particular, then your average Judo guy.

Another example of this is the turtle, both defensively, and offensively. Some of these Judo guys are extremely difficult to attack or turn over once turtled, and many are equally skilled at attacking me while I'm turtled. It makes sense, you turtle for 10-15 seconds and you get to stand back up and dump me on my head. Whereas in Jits, I can take my time, work hooks in, there's no need to turn you over at all, because I have unlimited time to work from there (or, in comp, I have til the round/match ends anyway).

So, I guess what I'm saying is, I think it's a misconception that Judo guys aren't as good on the ground as jits guys. They are often VERY good, at the things they do. It's just that the things they do are different, because they use a very different rule set than I'm used to.

Also, obviously this will vary by the club, as some spend more time than others on ground work.