I am beginning to think that shelving Harvin was a lesser version of this. We don't HAVE to have these guys right now; that's how reliable our depth is. Might as well let them heal and then let Avril play maybe in the third game, hopefully in the last game of the exhibition season.

Colin Kaepernick is a great person, something that the NFL is sorely lacking.

In Pete's own words, they are just taking advantage of the time frame. No reason to rush anything so they aren't.

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oasis wrote:Zach Miller.

Wait, is he your example of a good free agent signing?

Definitely. His contract isn't the most efficient, but he's been good for us and right now he's become one of the most critical starters on offense (if he can't play from injury, we are screwed). Sidney Rice is a similar story.

Raheem Brock was a free agent and had a career year with us. Brandon Stokely was a nice, low cost pickup. BMW had a nice 2010 season. Giacomini and McQuistan have been solid starters at bargain prices. Jason Jones was good when healthy. Brandon Browner was a free agent out of the CFL. Michael Robinson was a free agent after being released by the 49ers. Alan Branch gave us two solid seasons at moderate cost. Tjack did a solid job as a bridge QB and netted us a draft pick before returning as a quality low cost backup.

Michael Bennett looked like the best player on our entire defense against the Chargers. Our top WR in that same game was a FA from Arizona (Stephen Williams).

Avril will probably be good, based on his talent and track record. Ditto Antoine Winfield.

I dunno, I look at Seattle's track record in FA under PC/JS and it is probably the best in the league, in terms of contribution per dollar. They've found some very good players and also some great bargains.

Yeah, Miller's one of my favorite players. I'd get his jersey if this wasn't a "young talent" type team that would likely make him expendable sooner rather than later. Still get goosebumps from his 3rd down conversions against the redskins.

Zach Miller will be here to start the season for the hawks. He is a veteran resting his body, that doesn't need to play threw injuries in the preseason. People are acting like this preseason game is the first game of the season. If someone has a prick on there finger, there not going to play. Its not like a regular season injury report, where wins matter and people have to play threw injuries.

Shock, What is your problem with Miller, his contract, his run blocking, his foot injury? His skills as a TE are not just restricted to one part of the game and he is an integral part of our running game along with being a reliable pass catcher inside and on the seams. In all he's a rare total package TE. He's very important to the team.

Maybe his contact is expensive and perhaps the team slightly overpaid but he answered a real problem the team needed answering when he was signed. You need to go back to 2010 and examine who was available, what we had at TE and what we wanted to do. examined fairly I think he was a good signing, he's been quite dependable if you look at his record. At this point we know exactly what we have with him and so does RW, the team is better when he plays he has to be accounted for by an opposing D.

I want him to be healthy when the games start to count.

Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

Carp is starting to become Marcus Tubbs 2.0, but with that said when we had an injured Marcus Tubbs we also had a Superbowl app.

Miller would be perfect if he was making half as much as he is now. Good player when healthy, but for the most part completely over priced at this point.

Thankfully we have some great depth (so far, 1 game of preseason to look at) and hopefully these guys can come fill in for any injuries. I know I saw a lot of good things from the preseason game, but it was just one game. I just hope everyone stays healthy.

How the hell did this devolve into a Miller Bashing thread. Miller is a warrior. He proved that last season finishing out with Plantar Fasciitis for crying out loud. Carpenter is fragile, of that there can be no question at this point.

Carp is coming off of an extended layoff. We should expect nagging stuff like feet, ankles, etc. until his legs get into game shape. This is probably nothing more than a minor strain that the FO is just resting so it doesn't get worse.

Thing is, with this much young talent on our OL, it's very possible that the coaching staff could just get impatient, or that we need the roster spot too badly, or Carp just gets pushed out by a younger, healthier player. He's got a ton of potential, but you can't realize potential on the sidelines.