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I am glad they are coming. They might not look as good as the "Special edition" DVD sets but they will look good. I have the Laserdisc and they look great. If they are from the same trasnfers then most fans should be happy.

Jonny "Me You" wrote: Sometimes doing so would get said unnammed sources in trouble for breaking release plans or sharing internal info, even if the source seems too vague to recognize they dont want to chance it

Hehe, I'll take that to mean you know someone involved with the production then. He's in trouble now!

The original 1977 Star Wars movie now titled Episode IV: A New Hope is being released without it's A New Hope Title. The first time that's EVER happened on home video. If you recall, you saw it briefly on the Empire of Dreams documentary. If you also recall it was ANAMORPHIC. So, if you put two and two together - if you saw something that has never been seen before, and it was anamorphic and Lucas claims to be using old laserdisc ports for the movies on DVD when we KNOW it was remastered for anamorphic widescreen, guess what? Lucas is full of s**t and lying to the public about not having a better source. Likely, to get you to buy the anamorphic version later in yet another re-release.

That's just great. George Lucas just gave all of us a big 'ole F**K YOU! and I'm willing to bet he's gonna try to do it again next year for the 30th anniversary. Hopefully by then, Rick MacCullum will toss him down a giant Death Star II pitt.

Chris wrote: I wish people would just stop beating about the bush and give some sort of hint as to where the info came from, at the very least. It wouldn't hurt to say 'from someone connected with the release', or 'from someone at Lucasfilm', rather than leaving it so totally vague.

Sometimes doing so would get said unnammed sources in trouble for breaking release plans or sharing internal info, even if the source seems too vague to recognize they dont want to chance it

I wish people would just stop beating about the bush and give some sort of hint as to where the info came from, at the very least. It wouldn't hurt to say 'from someone connected with the release', or 'from someone at Lucasfilm', rather than leaving it so totally vague.

$29.98 SRP is c**p though. I'm sure they'll claim it's great value as you get two versions, but anyone who wants Star Wars will already have the 2004 set (or the 2005 re-release) and if the originals aren't anamorphic they're pretty much coasters. The bloke really is a f**king mong.

Roll on the fan projects based on these releases, as they'll no doubt improve on them.

Chris wrote: Um, where are you getting that information? Nothing official has been announced yet, at least not in the UK.

Hey I have my jedi secrets too Mine wasn't the bits but I got the same message from my little birdy.

It's funny though isnt it? If I'm not mistaken Lucas has claimed releasing the originals will defeat piracy. But since his asking price is so high and the quality is the same as the pirated copies, he's probably going to increase it.

Stephen Etherton wrote: This is not actually about the DVDs, but I found it so blatantly funny, I had to share it. A new definition of Ironic: The Offical Star Wars Website Store is selling "Han Shot First" shirts. http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?pr... It seems this goes against everything George stated that he always intended to do it that way. It is like he found another way to make a buck. Start a controversy, and now sell to both sides of it. It is to laugh.

that is not without humor, arent they releasing the Lego game on the same day too?

This is not actually about the DVDs, but I found it so blatantly funny, I had to share it. A new definition of Ironic: The Offical Star Wars Website Store is selling "Han Shot First" shirts. http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?pr... It seems this goes against everything George stated that he always intended to do it that way. It is like he found another way to make a buck. Start a controversy, and now sell to both sides of it. It is to laugh.

Matt wrote: Justin Biddle wrote: At last. All the people who claim the changes ruined the original trilogy can now see them in all their original glory and perhaps realise that after all the ranting and raving it doesn't make that much of a difference. Just curious, how old are you Justin?

I'm 26. Just to clarify something. I wasn't arguing the case for or against the changes just the level of mania it seems to incite. The changes by and large whether good or bad are only minor. The argument that having Greedo shoot first completely ruins Han's character implies that he is so poorly written that without this one brief scene his entire story is ruined.

Better or worse, the changes do seem to provoke strong reactions on both sides which I've never really got.

From my own point of view I grew up on the original versions and when the changes came along I quite liked them. It wasn't until I read online reviews that I realised they had caused huge consternation. When I read these reviews I began to realise that some of the changes were in actual fact detrimental. I just didn't think they warranted the outcry they caused.

Stephen Etherton wrote: I think Lucas, no matter what his motivations are, is doing a good thing. People can stop yearning for the original version, and finally choose. I will buy it, so I can have both, but personally, I still think I would prefer the improved look and special effects over the very dated original versions.

I have watched both versions recently (I own the original trilogy "unaltered" on laserdisc) and the changes, especially to Star Wars and Return of the Jedi are jarring and take you out of the moment of movie. Having Jabba in the first movie was just a bad idea. He looks so much different than he did in Return of the Jedi.

I don't get people that complain about older effects. They are what they are. It's kind of silly to go back and try to "improve" them.

Matt wrote: Justin Biddle wrote: At last. All the people who claim the changes ruined the original trilogy can now see them in all their original glory and perhaps realise that after all the ranting and raving it doesn't make that much of a difference. Just curious, how old are you Justin?

For me, I never jumped on the bandwagon of original vs. current. The changes never ruined the original trilogy, some of them were for the better, but others were not. I never liked Han shooting second (later at the 'same time' ) because that changed the dynamics of the character, and the other gripe was the Jedi musical. The rest of the changes were just fine, and generally accepted by most people.

The improving the special effects were a good thing, and removing those awful matte lines was even better, and although I appreciate how it was done before, I can further enjoy how much better it looks now.

I think Lucas, no matter what his motivations are, is doing a good thing. People can stop yearning for the original version, and finally choose. I will buy it, so I can have both, but personally, I still think I would prefer the improved look and special effects over the very dated original versions.

Ugh! Why are they forcing us to rebuy the SEs to get the originals as "bonus features". Most of us probably already have the SEs and will have to keep that set as it is the only one with special features.

Why can't they just give us a package with the original features all together?

Justin Biddle wrote: At last. All the people who claim the changes ruined the original trilogy can now see them in all their original glory and perhaps realise that after all the ranting and raving it doesn't make that much of a difference. Just curious, how old are you Justin?

At last. All the people who claim the changes ruined the original trilogy can now see them in all their original glory and perhaps realise that after all the ranting and raving it doesn't make that much of a difference.

The Digital Bits just announced that the original cuts WILL be released. Check it out here:http://thedigitalbits.com (its the May 4th column) They'll be released September 12th in 2-disc sets containing the original cut and 2004 re-works, and there's a possibility for a box set. They go out of print on December 31st and there are apparently no plans for high definition DVD releases.

Franchise wrote: Thank God for people who did rips of the laserdisc versions of these movies. You know, I don't mind slick reproductions, but movies should be complete when they come out. They shouldn't be getting tweaked 20 years down the line. I think that's a bit excessive.

I really don't mind the tweaks, regardless of when they are done. In fact, I'm looking forward to a definitive version of Baby Face now that they have found a version before it was changed to meet decency standards. What irks me is Lucas pretending like the original versions never existed. Why can't he understand that people want to see the Star Wars they grew up with?

Thank God for people who did rips of the laserdisc versions of these movies. You know, I don't mind slick reproductions, but movies should be complete when they come out. They shouldn't be getting tweaked 20 years down the line. I think that's a bit excessive.

There will always be another edition of the films. It seems the longer I wait for the originals the more they get screwed up in future releases. I don't think he'll do it. People said before they'd be on the DVD but well....no. This is a rumor of hope.

Adrian wrote: I really don't care as long as my laser disc player holds out. I have the definitive edition on laser disc, which includes the THX cleanup, but doesn't alternate the film significantly. Best to get those transferred to DVD before your player konks out though or you'll regret it later. Decent laserdisc players have become increasingly hard to come by over the past couple of years.

I'm a huge Humphrey Bogart fan despite the fact that he died 15 years before I was born. Certain works will always be rediscovered by future generations. We may stop caring about Star Wars, but other people probably still will care and those future people may be intrigued by seeing Star Wars as they have never seen it before.

As for me, I really don't care as long as my laser disc player holds out. I have the definitive edition on laser disc, which includes the THX cleanup, but doesn't alternate the film significantly.

I'm still waiting for Lucas to edit out when the Storm Trooper bonks his head going through the doorway.

Chris wrote: ...After Lucas is 'oven ready' I'm sure Fox will milk it for all it's worth, although by then most of the fanatical Star Wars fans (such as myself) would have stopped caring.

Geesh, I had no idea George Lucas was also the Pillsbury Dough Boy!

But seriously, it seems interest in great iconic films like "The Ten Commandments, "Gone With The Wind," "Ben-Hur," "The Wizard of Oz," "West Side Story," and "The Godfather" continues to this day. I was just a kid when the original "Star Wars" films splashed across movie screens but my interest in those films has never died. My nephews are fanatical Beatles fans and both were born after John Lennon was murdered. I think fanatical interest in George Lucas' masterpiece will continue for generations because it made a huge cultural impact that spanned four decades.

As I said above, the most obsessive (i.e. people around my age) are going to have moved on by then. There will be marriage and kids for one thing. I speak for myself of course, as I know those things are some way beyond a lot of Star Wars fans

Gabe Powers wrote: Yeah, Lucas may not care what everyone else thinks of his films, but he's going to stick by HIS vision of them. I don't see this ever happening.

I see it happening the day after Lucas dies. After all, whoever controls his property isn't going to worry about Lucas's vision. They are going to see the $$$$s in releasing the original, unaltered trilogy.

Christ, these rumours have been around for years. If (and I mean if) he does releases them, he will be going back on everything he has said over the last few years. Of course this is nothing new to the man, but I'd be surprised if they do see the light of day in his lifetime.

After Lucas is 'oven ready' I'm sure Fox will milk it for all it's worth, although by then most of the fanatical Star Wars fans (such as myself) would have stopped caring.

I already have DVD copies ripped from LD, and I'm quite happy with them for historical purposes. I have lost a lot of respect for Lucas as a filmmaker after the prequels and reading some of the stuff that Gary Kurtz has written.

This has been discussed at length before, but yes - there is a rumor there will be a final Ultimate Edition of Star Wars that would include yet another version of the Special Editions, and the original cuts among hordes of bonus material. Only time will tell if it's true, but the rumored date was 2007 for the 30 year anniversary.

Remember, we know Star Wars is coming to theaters at least one more time, in ridiculous and over the top 3D.

I seriously doubt it unless George Lucas has passed away and his children are now controlling the movies. Lucas has stated many times over that the original cuts no longer exist for him. He doesn't seem to be one to change his mind.