Messages - Squarekiller23

@Hamhusu: That's an interesting tale you tell. I thought I had been going crazy for the longest time (although, after reading what you have to say, I think my breakdowns were relatively tame), and trust me, there is a way to turn around. Everything dead last suggested is a good idea. I would add spending time alone to that list. If there is a state or national park near you, go hiking the trails there. Do it early in the morning, so you won't run into anyone else. It's the best way to clear your head. Try to think about what you value in your life, or think of goals you've always wanted to accomplish, anything along those lines. You'll slowly begin to throw out of your mind all the poisonous thoughts and ideas, and you'll find things that are important to you, and what you hold dear, etc. All that jazz.

At least that is how it works for me. I also think that this website, and all of the old stuff from ANUS, does a lot of good. This may sound like hyperbole, but it's true: if it weren't for ANUS, I really wouldn't be who I am today. The old articles planted the seeds in my head that made me throw off that victim-loving, self-pitying, angsty teenage bullshit and start actually finding ways to enjoy life. I'd say ignore most of everything else on the internet and read up on those old articles.

I hope that's coherent and a least a little helpful. I'm over-caffeinated right now, and I can't think or type straight.

As I get older, I get more thankful for not being able to handle my drugs well. One good bong-rip of hydroponically grown marijuana makes me go insane. Four hours of paranoiac, hypomanic hell. And prolonged use makes my whole world like that. This is what keeps me away from hard drugs more than anything. If I can't even handle pot, I should probably stay far away from everything else.

Making a party that's tolerable to the masses usually results in its spiritual suicide. Prime example: BNP.

Also, Americans are far less nationalistic than Europeans, due to a lack of a coherent identity even among white people. Tending towards higher "patriotism" is different and doesn't imply the former. I highly doubt this approach is effective.

I can't say much to that. Even if more extreme nationalist views were presented to them in a more palatable way, the mass of American people wouldn't be inspired enough to leave their couches, and the ones that would would be against nationalism, fighting for tolerance and egalitarianism, as they are wont to do.

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If you're willing to assert national identity, then willingly carve up your country to suit another group, that leaves me baffled.

Smaller country means a border that's easier to defend and a population that's easier to control, provided the population is small enough. If borders would have to be redefined to separate the nationalists from the other masses, then so be it. At least that's what I'd think.

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This won't appeal to the people you're trying to appeal to. Even your Rockwell reference paid service to "deportation and aid".

As far as aid goes, we could appoint an intelligent leader to instill in them their own sense of national identity, and make them opponents of miscegenation and integration. After that, we could leave them be.

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I suffer from the same impulse, however I'm increasingly growing convinced that the fight has been lost for a long time

In America it most definitely has. Everything I've said here is really just wishful fantasy that will not come to be. I don't care much about America, to be honest. There is still hope in Europe, on the other hand. Nationalist parties are on the rise all over the continent, and even more mainstream, moderate politicians are admitting that immigration is rotting their countries. A lot of the people are willing to admit it, as well, as polls from Britain and France show. But it would take so much force to turn back the damages done by modernity that, even if nationalistic fervor swept Europe again, they might just collapse under the weight of it.

One can safely assume it ain't gonna happen, and so the discussion is pure fantasy. Not there's anything wrong with fantasy. As long as one remembers that is what it is.

I was going to mention that in my reply. Unfortunately, it is all too true.

But because discussion is what we're here for...

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1. America has gone so far that if the "American Nazi Party" were to win a relevant election the UN would publicly involve itself starting there.

The American Nazi Party is completely irrelevant now. It got attention when George Lincoln Rockwell was alive, but only because he used shock tactics to get it. But if they did get any votes, yes, they would be ousted immediately and a more tolerant candidate would take their place. A party with less extreme, but still very nationalistic, views, would have to gain ground slowly and make their opinions the norm among Americans. All of the barriers of political correctness would slowly have to be eroded until we could talk about segregation seriously again. Seeing as how this is happening in Europe (to some extent) right now, it may not be too much of a fantasy to imagine it happening here.

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2. How exactly do you move millions of Africans back to their homeland? Give each some $ and a plane ticket? What do you do with those that refuse to go?

They all cry about wanting reparations for slavery anyway. Tell them they'll get it, if they leave the country. We could always straight-up deport the African nationals who aren't citizens back to their countries. As for the ones that don't want to go: there would be plenty of people, especially a lot of whites, who would not want to live in a white ethno-state. Too many people are attached to their love of multiculturalism for them to give it up in favor of realistic solutions. They would just get a separate part of the country for themselves to race-mix and get all of the "cultural enrichment" that they want, away from the whites who want to separate, And then we'd leave them be.

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3. What do they do once they're in Africa? The continent is already dysfunctional, what happens when you dump millions more on it?

We forget about them after that. It's not our problem what brown people do in their own countries, unless the want to invade us, And then we'd deal with them properly.

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I have yet to come up any reasons why retiring alone to a farm is not the best individual solution.

It really is. But if one cares about one's ancestors, and heritage, and this planet, one has to give any kind of fight they can. We can all jump ship and let the whole thing fail if the fight becomes completely hopeless and futile.

It isn't right-wing, but, if a nationalist party came to power, something like the deportation and aid described above would have to happen, because anything else would cause the world to cry "HOLOCAUST!" and send in UN troops to shut them down and enforce "democracy" again.

Dont have to be PC to knock N5BM, it sucks, the bands suck, the ideology sucks too. Yeah sure there are a few exceptions, but they are not really notable (I can only think of NM atm). As far as the ideology is concerned, getting a lot of things right but some vital things wrong is worse than bad.

It's as you say, the music is awful. That's the most damning aspect of it. I'm positive that at some point the Norwegian black metal celebs had NS sympathies but the music was not shit. I will say however that the only worthwhile NS band I've experienced is Spear of Longinus.

I agree about Spear of Longinus. I'm listening to "Nazi Occult Metal" right now. Killer demo. The way they did the vocals would be cheesy if a less competent band tried to pull it off, but these guys are very competent composers. They're the perfect blend of punk and metal. "The Yoga of National Socialism" is their best album, and would be a good place to start for someone who hasn't heard them.

As for the ideology of National Socialist bands sucking, I think it may have to do with how much they distort it. A lot of those bands filter the ideology down to "I hate n*ggers" and leave it at that. That's another thing that sets SOL apart. You'll find none of that in their lyrics. They glorify war, chaos, and the ancient gods, and don't just yell about how great white people are.

Listening to Grand Belial's Key for the first time. "Goat of a Thousand Young" demo. It's a little hokey, especially with the weird keyboards. The version of "Shemhamforash" has an intro that sounds like it should be in a Rihanna song. Besides that, it's not the worst demo to come from a Gay Midget Fecal Pr0n (GMFP) band.

WOW!!

I didn't type N5BM. I typed American black metal band. I don't think this was a word filter. I have a feeling a wily mod may have changed it. Maybe because GBK isn't too appreciated around here? I don't know.

Just for fun, N5BM actually filters to NSBM.

And, on topic, I listened to AC/DC's Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap today for the first time in years. Still as awesome as it was when I was thirteen.

Listening to Grand Belial's Key for the first time. "Goat of a Thousand Young" demo. It's a little hokey, especially with the weird keyboards. The version of "Shemhamforash" has an intro that sounds like it should be in a Rihanna song. Besides that, it's not the worst demo to come from a USBM band.

Yeah, I pretty much answered my question in my own post. Coincidentally, just yesterday I listened to an audio clip of George Lincoln Rockwell saying that if the American Nazi Party were to come to power, they would deport blacks back to Africa, while helping them build a better homeland there, because we couldn't just "drop them in the jungle".

I don't know why that idea is so repulsive to most people. And it's sad to see what could be legitimate nationalist parties letting their anger get the better of them.

Golden Dawn are a bunch of hooligans who do not help the situation in Greece at all, by the way.

How exactly aren't they helping? I can't seem to find an unbiased word anywhere about this party. The left of course think they're "Neo-Nazi scum", in their own words, and a lot of the right-wingers think they're the best thing to happen to Europe since the NSDAP.

I know that Ilias Kasidiaras slapped a woman MP on Greek television, which was stupid, and that members of the party are known to beat up immigrants and destroy their property, which is also stupid. But they do seem to care very deeply about their country and people, and recent polls show they're the third or second most popular party right now, so that reflects the sentiment of the Greeks towards them.