well they're bad to you and me, but don't forget there are some people for which these are absolute bargains.

EDIT: i've played it, it gets repetitive what with doing all the same moves, to climb walls and jumping about (it uses the Assassin's Creed engine) but i used a 360 controller and it gets so mindless that you end up pulling fluid combo moves like second nature.

Hopefully I won't have the massive never ending FPS drop about 45 min into the game with this version like I got in my p!r@t3d version. May have been something they put in there, but it went from at least 60 all the time to about 7-15 and wouldn't let up.