Dibbla

Were you sat next to each other or discussing it over skype? Loving her deep thinking. Completely agree about your thinking as I often find myself in the same situation on the 774 board. Will aces still call at 50/1?

oneillsurfer03

Really great video. I think one of the things you touched on when steve had AKJx on the AJ8 two tone board is that in aggro online games playing passive can be very profitable in some spots. I have played with alot of different spots where i used to always Cbet or always c/r in NL and weaking your range by checking or calling is very profitable. Do you feel playing passive in aggro games can some times be more optimal as an overall game plan?

fslexcduck

Absolutely on the turn! I wouldn't 3 barrel though because once he calls two streets I'm pretty confident he has a 7 or better by that point.

I wanted to elaborate on this the more that I've been thinking about it. The reason the turn is such a clear bet speaks to a fundamental gap in my logic on the flop that I chose not to address for the interest of time. In the vid, I say that "568 is the only draw you can have to check/raise, so he's got to think you have a 7, so he'll fold aces."

Obviously, if he's folding aces to a flop check/raise, it would be INSANELY profitable to c/r with any 4. Do I think he adjusts to that? Yes and no. Some people fold outright (which tbh is probably correct since so few people bluff in this spot). Some people call the flop to reevaluate, and fold the turn. Most fold AA by the turn though. And that's why having 568 is so nice, because you have decent enough equity against his range to bet/reluctantly call off what little rest (in 100BB situations) on the turn, which is what convinces him that you have to have a "big" hand, and makes 568 such a little part of your range. The flop c/r you can do very wide, but following through for your stack takes a very specific set of hands, the equity of which completely crushes any non-7 hand.

fslexcduck

Do you feel playing passive in aggro games can some times be more optimal as an overall game plan?

Absolutely. To be honest, this is more of a recent hold'em phenomenon than a PLO one, but it applies to some extent in both games. People value bet so wide now (especially in NL) and assume you have a draw if you play passive (especially in PLO) that playing passively can be just a perfect strategy in a heads-up pot against an aggressive player. Just know your opponent and don't become too predictable yourself when playing other regs... that's all there is to it.