I can no longer sit back and allow communist infiltration, communist indoctrination, communist subversion, and the international communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

TalenLee:Giltric: TalenLee: Infernalist: He can't be serious. We all know he can't hit the U.S. How can this possibly end, except in humiliation for NK?

You forget that if Pyongyang launches a rocket that leaves eyesight, NK will tell everyone in NK that New York is now a smoking crater in the ground. They can't really be humiliated in this front because they have no international standing amongst the aware and alert. The biggest nuke NK can field could not destroy New York City with a direct hit.

they don't have to destroy anything....just have to make it uninhabitable with fallout....thats what the whole dirty nuke/bomb thing was about in the current war on terror.

Well, given that we're talking about America, if they successfully blow up some buildings with box cutters, you'll all lose your goddamn mind and invade Belgium, so I suppose they have ways to maximise their side effects.

Well, as we have seen since then, the passengers aren't going to put up with that crap (shoebomber, underwear bomber, any number of unruly people who have been tied to their seats) but Homeland Security and the TSA haven't stopped growing since then so there might be a point to your hyperbole.

Gosling:Infernalist: I used to think that he was doing this strictly to shore up support among the ruling military class. Now...Now I have no clue what that lil bastard is up to.

He can't be serious. We all know he can't hit the U.S. How can this possibly end, except in humiliation for NK?

It's like..He's playing poker and going all-in with a handful of junk cards and we've seen them and he's still insisting that he's got a Royal Straight Full House Flush.

Right now? I think he might actually farking do it. And if he does, well, we pretty much have no choice but to just end this.

Nah, there has been a lot of bluster, but it's still just a show for internal consumption. He might torpedo another patrol boat, but there will be no large scale conventional or nuclear attack by the North.They are crazy, and stupid, but they aren't that crazy and stupid.

tripleseven:I would believe he's trying to get America to reach out with diplomacy. Then, if we contact him, and biatch slap him, he can then turn around and tell his people we folded in the face of his might.

But then again, he may just be batshiat.

<shrug>

That may have been his aim, seeing as it's always ended that way before, but given that this time everyone's responding with 'no, you know what, fark you'... there wasn't anything in the playbook for that.

dforkus:Nah, there has been a lot of bluster, but it's still just a show for internal consumption. He might torpedo another patrol boat, but there will be no large scale conventional or nuclear attack by the North.They are crazy, and stupid, but they aren't that crazy and stupid.

Kim Jong-Il? Yes.

Kim Jong-Un? We don't know. He doesn't know where the Rubicon is and the military seems like they're trying to shove him over it.

Bontesla:jjwars1: Bontesla: The more he moves toward war - the more I'm thinking that he had something up his sleeve.

Yeah, I have that same feeling. It seems most everyone here thinks this is some opportunity to laugh and joke about the situation by mocking N. Korea. I don't think they should underestimate Korea's capabilities though. If I were ruling an underdog nation I would purposefully mislead intelligence, build allies, make myself and the country look weak and incapable, build an arsenal on foreign and domestic soil, and launch an attack on my enemies infrastructure, kill the Internet, release airborn biological weapons, chemical, and nukes from outside my own country.

Agreed. Even if they don't have nuclear capabilities - they certainly have the potential to inflict damage. Lil Kim was educated in what - Switzerland? He's had exposure beyond his little bubble.

Either he's truly the world's worst poker player or we're underestimating him.

And certainly - he's got to know that they would not survive (as a country) in this conflict.

If this were a novel - I would be writing that Lil Kim is looking to either hide or expose something heinous. Perhaps Lil Kim has gotten word that his administration is being investigated for a genocide and a war is a really great way to get other people to destroy damning evidence?

Wouldn't be a disaster thread without you!

/Got Bonnaroo tix, Macklemore will be there.//Headed down to ATL on Friday, is the Clermont as awesome as claimed?

The DOD can use this to justify higher budget demands.The DHS will use this to justify tighter controls in our country.The greatest threat to the American population is not outside our borders, but within.

silly Americans. NK is not starting a war to win. They want to lose! fight Americans, lose and you get American money to rebuild your country. Win, you get nothing. look at Vietnam. They won and what did they get? 3 decades of misery until China become a threat to US. nope, much safer to lose to US.

Igor Jakovsky:Well, as we have seen since then, the passengers aren't going to put up with that crap (shoebomber, underwear bomber, any number of unruly people who have been tied to their seats) but Homeland Security and the TSA haven't stopped growing since then so there might be a point to your hyperbole.

I think it bears reitration: Suggesting America would invade Belgium was hyperbole. Belgians, after all, are mostly white.

sweet-daddy-2:The DOD can use this to justify higher budget demands.The DHS will use this to justify tighter controls in our country.The greatest threat to the American population is not outside our borders, but within.

...how in the fark are you linking threats of a sovereign nation to the DHS? And why is your first reaction to a nuclear power threatening to nuke the US "Oh, this is just an excuse for the MIC to get more of our tax dollars!"?

Girion47:Bontesla: jjwars1: Bontesla: The more he moves toward war - the more I'm thinking that he had something up his sleeve.

Yeah, I have that same feeling. It seems most everyone here thinks this is some opportunity to laugh and joke about the situation by mocking N. Korea. I don't think they should underestimate Korea's capabilities though. If I were ruling an underdog nation I would purposefully mislead intelligence, build allies, make myself and the country look weak and incapable, build an arsenal on foreign and domestic soil, and launch an attack on my enemies infrastructure, kill the Internet, release airborn biological weapons, chemical, and nukes from outside my own country.

Agreed. Even if they don't have nuclear capabilities - they certainly have the potential to inflict damage. Lil Kim was educated in what - Switzerland? He's had exposure beyond his little bubble.

Either he's truly the world's worst poker player or we're underestimating him.

And certainly - he's got to know that they would not survive (as a country) in this conflict.

If this were a novel - I would be writing that Lil Kim is looking to either hide or expose something heinous. Perhaps Lil Kim has gotten word that his administration is being investigated for a genocide and a war is a really great way to get other people to destroy damning evidence?

Wouldn't be a disaster thread without you!

/Got Bonnaroo tix, Macklemore will be there.//Headed down to ATL on Friday, is the Clermont as awesome as claimed?

Oh my goodness! Have an amazing time.I'm sooo envious! Is this your first time in Atlanta??