I am a white man, and by your reasoning it would be correct for me to say that, yes statistically blacks have lower IQs than whites, but on the other hand ASIANS have HIGHER IQs than whites (statistically), and mixed races are, on average, less prone to many diseases. Why this misplaced sense of PRIDE in ones own race?

I think you're asking the wrong question. A White Nationalist's appropriate response, if I'm not mistaken, would be something along the lines of: "If your little brother got an 'A' on his math test, you would be proud of him, right? Why can't I be proud of what my White ancestors created? Proud of being White in a society where it is endangered? The fact that, on average, Asians have a higher IQ, and mixed races are less prone to disease does nothing to disprove White Nationalism — it only supports its underlying axioms."

Please, don't take me wrong, though. I readily disagree.

Dr. Ford,

I highly doubt any such conspiracy amongst the Jewish people, and amongst any other race, for that matter. There are many reasons for this, but the denial that there are many social powers who are Jewish is not one of them.

Although I disagree with your thoughts on the popularity of racial equality, and feel that statistical differences in race can more comprehensively, and more viably be explained via other means — I fully accept the possibility of some sort of large-scale movement revolving around race if our society (and societies, in matters of globalization) keeps treading down the path it does.

If, after death, there is metaphysical perception — my only wish is to be able to observe mankind.

I think our conversation, Dr. Ford, is coming to an end. It has been one of the more enjoyable ones I've had on this forum (even though it's digressed from the intent of the thread), and I thank you for the respect you've showed me throughout it.

I am a white man, and by your reasoning it would be correct for me to say that, yes statistically blacks have lower IQs than whites, but on the other hand ASIANS have HIGHER IQs than whites (statistically), and mixed races are, on average, less prone to many diseases. Why this misplaced sense of PRIDE in ones own race?

Well, although a primary slogan of SF is "White Pride World Wide" (WPWW), which is in no small part an understandable counter to the attempts of the powers-that-be to make Whites ashamed of their heritage, my own motivation is not so much pride, but rather concern for the quality of life of future generations and the desire to preserve the genetics necessary for Western Civilization - which everyone seems to love so much that they'll risk life and limb to live in it. I do not think the mixed race Dominican Republic or Brazil is anything to be held up as an example of good health or intelligence.

Make no mistake, I am all for preserving Asian countries as-is until we can better understand inter and sub-race differences. (And I'm not against helping Africans either.) Japan (and every other "genetically stable" country for that matter) should let no one into their gene pool - not Chinese, not even Koreans, until we can see and understand "who has what". The Japanese and Koreans, etc., do have a lot to be proud of (and in the future the Chinese will again too). We Americans' did too - just look at us in the 1960's on the moon. Not anymore. Not much longer. We let the third world in and it made itself at home. Tens of trillions of dollars in social programs all for nothing. Let it be an epic monument to folly, madness and treason from within.

There is a lot of controversy about the Asian versus White IQ, especially in light of the incredible achievements of Western man throughout history. The measured higher IQ of Asians may involve issues such as (list time again):

American Asian immigrants may be more intelligent than those Asians in their home countries (although I do not question the high IQ of people in Japan and Hong Kong);

Asian children may develop mentally faster, but for a shorter time than Whites, which would explain the pace of the Japanese school system versus its Western counterparts, and IQ data for children is more readily available than for adults, thus skewing the results to favor Asians (e.g., a 9 year old Japanese may be more intelligent than a 9 year old German, but this gap may narrow or even invert at age 30);

the more intelligent Chinese may be concentrated in the urban coastal areas, while the less intelligent inner rural population is not as well represented in the IQ data (a pool so large that it would significantly lower the overall Asian IQ);

Asians may indeed have a higher mean IQ, but a narrower distribution than Whites - thus Whites tend to produce more geniuses (and, unfortunately, more idiots too), (this is the "smart fraction" theory); and

Whites may have had a higher IQ in the past, but this is being lost by continued dysgenic practices.

We have not even begun to discuss mental character traits of which much less is known than intelligence, which may turn out to be even more important than intelligence in determining quality of life (e.g., an 85 IQ White "Gomer Pyle" may well generate a much more pleasant society in some respects than the "equivalent" average 85 IQ American Black, or even a higher IQ Asian for that matter).

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The fact that, on average, Asians have a higher IQ, and mixed races are less prone to disease does nothing to disprove White Nationalism — it only supports its underlying axioms.

Yes, I agree, because it opens the door to the relationship between genetics, mental attributes, and thus, quality of life. The mainstream social policy is all based on the assumption (actually, I would say known "falsehood") that a human being can be remolded into just about anything given the right education and environment. If it becomes widely know that this is not true, then suddenly there would be grave concern about, say, letting Haitians into the U.S., because they could not be "remade" (in the long term) into "good Americans" via liberal social programs.

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Although I disagree with your thoughts on the popularity of racial equality, and feel that statistical differences in race can more comprehensively, and more viably be explained via other means — I fully accept the possibility of some sort of large-scale movement revolving around race if our society (and societies, in matters of globalization) keeps treading down the path it does.

If, after death, there is metaphysical perception — my only wish is to be able to observe mankind.

I think our conversation, Dr. Ford, is coming to an end. It has been one of the more enjoyable ones I've had on this forum (even though it's digressed from the intent of the thread), and I thank you for the respect you've showed me throughout it.

Wow. I don't know if I even deserve that compliment - there are posters just as good and even better on SF (many I have learned from), but "doing duty in OV" is not usually a pleasant job and so many good SF members understandably avoid the open forums after having had their fill of it in the past. In fact, there is a vocal not-so-small SF minority that wants the open forums shut down completely, and one day they may get their wish (ditto for the theology forum - they say Lycia has the toughest moderator job of all). Although I may doubt your motives, I do not doubt your high intelligence. You can be "proud" of it, LOL, for what that is worth. My only advice is to marry well (comparable IQ and character) if you haven't already done so.

If you really are not Jewish (and maybe even if you are), I suspect you are going to be in for a shock. You'll see the Jewish problem for yourself one day and it won't be a pleasant experience. I should know.

About observing mankind - something an acquaintance (who I strongly suspect is Jewish) once told me. He said, that as far as the human race is concerned, nothing of importance has really changed throughout history. If you want to see the future, or the past, just observe the different types of people in the present. (BTW, a lot of such truths are subtly present in the Jewish-produced Back to the Future film series.)

I hope we can change this course of history via eugenics. We have to. For if character is so strongly determined by genetics, we might all be immortal as long as the genes that give rise to each of us survive, which makes the task of improving the world all the more imperative. Imagine periodically "waking up" in a never ending series of worlds, each more hellish than the previous, and being powerless to change it. There are fates worse than death.

Hello everbody. I have a general question I would like to ask. I am a asian male and after graduating university in my homeland (korea), 2 year ago, I have been travelling around Europe and North America. This is my overseas experience. I planning to stay in USA for 6 month total. After this I will go to Canada for 3 month. And after this I will return to my homeland.

I purpose in sightseeing and learning about the different cultures. I do not wish to stay or live in other country. I am not working and have enough money.

What is the white americans point of view on my situation. I hope I am not offending your people when I come here. There are many american in Korea and those who come for short term I like every much. But the American who marry a Korean woman I dislike. And people who try to stay also. We have korean nationalist groups (legal group of course), which try to top this. I support these group. And of course feeling same in USA.

North America in general is pretty boring in terms of culture and sight seeing. Visit Europe instead, its got alot more history and much better architecture.