Judge: Samsung's case against Apple over 3G is "ridiculous"

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23 Jul 2012, 10:07posted on

Apparently, it is not only us, consumers and media, who are completely tired of the never-ending legal drama. Australian Court Judge Annabelle Bennett has recently declared the latest Samsung vs. Apple case "ridiculous"...

Really? 3G isn't something a company can own, but a rectangle is? These judges should really do some research before sitting in that high chair. Why do you think Samsung is sueing Apple but not the other companies who are also using 3G?

that is funny, if Samsung wants to hurt Apple this isnt the way. Trying to patent 3g would hurt ever company who provides cell phones as well as the companies who provided the services. the biggest part is we are all in 4G and 4G LTE. its like Samsung is trying to file their taxes 2 yrs behind. lol

3g is already patented. But the patents are FRAND patents. That means the owners are required to license them fairly and without discrimination.

The question is, are Samsung trying to charge Apple an undue amount, or are Apple simply unwilling to pay what others are? A court will have to decide that, but banning a device over a FRAND patent is a tough sell.

Wait a minute, isn't this the same judge that's been overseeing all of the Apple v Samsung cases in Australia whose husband works for the firm representing Apple in Australia, 5 Wentworth, which she also used to work for? I fail to see how having her as the judge overseeing these cases, sworn in as a federal judge or not, isn't a conflict of interest.

FRAND my ASS, Samsung develops a Technology which benefits all Companies. They allow Qualcomm to use it in good faith, However Apple has chosen to revoke that good faith and as such are being sued. When has apple ever given anything to the good of the industry?

LMAO - Crapsung fanboys are out with their typical factory worker like mentality. Listen up, Qualcomm doesn't give a s**t to Samsung. They along with Ericsson, Nokia DEFINE the telecom technology. Samsung and other OEMs just use them to make phones, dishwasher and whatnot.
I understand you don't like Apple. But don't forget the difference between developing technology and running factories. It's a pretty big difference. Samsung never invented a s**t. They just steal others ideas and mass produce for a cheaper price at their sweatshops.

"We have been shameless about stealing great ideas.". - Steve Jobs. I think you have the wrong company in your dissertation on stealing. But don't let the facts and actual admissions from apple interfere with your blind fanboyism. Because, we all know Apple invented slide to unlock, rectangles, the color black, notification ,menu, turn by turn navigation, answering a call with a message, and 3g. When the apple innovates enough to get 4g later this year, I'm sure they will have invented that too. So...based on the quote from your great leader, who steals?

Wait! Don't forget white! Color white too. They were the first in the world to make a cell phone in ground breaking rule bending revolutionary color black! And if that wasn't mind blowing enough, they went even further with their unbelievable innovations and made a WHITE one! It's just magical.

LOL - let me give you some free tips. Samsung NEEDS those S4 - not the other way around. I guess you know about LTE. TSMC and UMC will be churning out the majority of Qualcomm chipsets. Leftovers will go to Samsung. That's how it works in the chip industry. TSMC is everyone's preferred fab - UMC/GF is the second choice. If there's still supply shortage, fabless companies try to book SMIC. Then comes Samsung - at the very bottom of the list as a fourth tier fab.

Actually you're the one who brought S4 into this discussion. Now you're feeling lost.

Like you said Qualcomm is loaded with orders. That's why Samsung might end up getting a fraction of its orders and US market is very important for Samsung. For now they need S4 very much. Whenever a chip maker needs extreme volume, they contract the lowest tier fabs like Samsung. Please do your research on the fabs and find out who are at the top (TSMC, UMC, GF, SMIC, etc.)

On a side note, the best thing about Exynos is the GPU which is fully designed by ARM itself- Samsung doesn't deserve any credit there.They just licensed it. But the ignorant fanboys whine 24/7 about Apple using others' sh*t and how innovative Samsung is - funny sh*t.

Anyways, I was talking about 3G/comm. patents. Some guy was saying how QC needs others' patents. WRONG - QC makes most money out of their vast telecom patents (not from chipsets). QC, Ericsson, NSN, Motorola invent 90% of the comm. technology stuff that includes the protocols, multi-million dollar switches, BTS, etc. - not a commodity like cell phones or DRAMs which Samsung is good at making.

not feeling lost, just dont have the want to sit and argue with a person ill never meet, but apparently you do, so, if it makes you feel better, keep talking, ill pretend to listen. ive said what i wanted to. dont need to say anymore.

If that's the case, the "multitouch and slide-to-unlock on a mobile device with a capacitive touch screen" patent should be part of FRAND too. This patent system needs to be fixed. To put it in an analogy, why was Apple granted a patent with "the only way to flip a switch" if they did not even invent the switch itself??? Gestures should not be patented. It should be the underlying technologies that make it possible. Apple DID NOT INVENT THE CAPACITIVE TOUCHSCREEN!!! Don't want to knock on a dead guy... But didn't Jobs flatly refused to license multitouch and slide-to-unlock patent at all, while demanding to have access to cellular connectivity patents? So who's the real anti-competition/monopoly-bent?

I just want to say I love Apple products. I have had android they had way to many problems and they aren't as nice as Apple. That being said this site is just about phones and stuff and I am sick of the whinny Android fans trying to make it an Android site. You love Android that is ok but I don't. Talk about your product but leave mine alone. You haven't used or will ever use one. I have owned many Android and was never satisfied with them. You can buy what you want. I am glad for you to be able to do so. Leave us Apple fans alone. I just want to read about all the new stuff and who knows I might try another Android phone.

You talk about leaving well enough alone, the problem is the idiotic company you worship doesn't. They don't care who it is, if another company competes with them they sue to wipe them from competition. What people are bent out of shape about is the way that this pathetic excuse for a judge is treating Samsung's IP. But nowhere does she talk about the ridiculous case that Apple has against Samsung.

You are free to buy that expensive not value-for-money phone but Apple is also making it more expensive for me to buy my next phone (my phonemaker has to get his litigation money back) over stupid patents (some of which are not even infringed).
Besides, a lot of android fans here simply react to the pro-apple news and opinions on the site. Why is that wrong?

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