The combination of no CBA (bad free agency with all the RFAs) and a deep draft has me wondering if Miami's approach will be acquiring as many picks as possible this offseason. Who do you think Miami could use to net some mid to late round draft picks?

Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:39 am

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Re: Who could be trade bait

jammer wrote:

The combination of no CBA (bad free agency with all the RFAs) and a deep draft has me wondering if Miami's approach will be acquiring as many picks as possible this offseason. Who do you think Miami could use to net some mid to late round draft picks?

Ginn would be the obvious pick. Other than that. No one. Well no one Miami would be willing to move.

Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:54 am

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Re: Who could be trade bait

No one anybody else would be willing to take is more like it.

Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:55 am

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Re: Who could be trade bait

Couldnt we get a 6th or 7th for Porter? If we could get a 4th for Crowder or Gin we could package that with our 1st rounder and move up to nab Mclain!

Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:00 pm

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Porter. Camarillo. Ginn would be the only 3 I could think of. MAYBE, Crowder. Can attempt to trade Ayodele. But, will likely just have to cut him.

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Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:38 pm

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Porter. Camarillo. Ginn would be the only 3 I could think of. MAYBE, Crowder. Can attempt to trade Ayodele. But, will likely just have to cut him.

Won't have it as he is a FA.

And you can't trade away your only speed at WR, nor your only half decent ILB.

Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:42 pm

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Phins Rock wrote:

hypocritex wrote:

Porter. Camarillo. Ginn would be the only 3 I could think of. MAYBE, Crowder. Can attempt to trade Ayodele. But, will likely just have to cut him.

Won't have it as he is a FA.

And you can't trade away your only speed at WR, nor your only half decent ILB.

Who is a FA? Ayodele? If so.. good. Let him go.

And sure you can! We can find A LOT of guys to replace Crowders production. He's not that good without a stud next to him.

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Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:44 pm

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Re: Who could be trade bait

hypocritex wrote:

Phins Rock wrote:

hypocritex wrote:

Porter. Camarillo. Ginn would be the only 3 I could think of. MAYBE, Crowder. Can attempt to trade Ayodele. But, will likely just have to cut him.

Won't have it as he is a FA.

And you can't trade away your only speed at WR, nor your only half decent ILB.

Who is a FA? Ayodele? If so.. good. Let him go.

And sure you can! We can find A LOT of guys to replace Crowders production. He's not that good without a stud next to him.

Yes Ayodele.

Then give CC a stud next to him....Right now, you can't guarantee that we can replace Crowder. Plus, he's cheap, and he's extremely familiar with our system.

Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:49 pm

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Re: Who could be trade bait

What is Will Allen's status? I can see us letting him go to keep getting younger at cb..

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Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:56 pm

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joeschmoe wrote:

What is Will Allen's status? I can see us letting him go to keep getting younger at cb..

Just gave Will Allen a 2 year extension that pays him 8 mil a year....he's not going anywhere. lol.

Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:00 pm

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Phins Rock wrote:

joeschmoe wrote:

What is Will Allen's status? I can see us letting him go to keep getting younger at cb..

Just gave Will Allen a 2 year extension that pays him 8 mil a year....he's not going anywhere. lol.

ohh yeah, right before he got injured right?

Didn't the same thing happen with Camarillo last year?

edit: Allen was signed before the season started (i used the google.)

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Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:05 pm

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He's my favorite Dolphin and probably wouldn't net a worthwhile price but Ronnie Brown should be on the block.

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Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:21 pm

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hypocritex wrote:

Porter. Camarillo. Ginn would be the only 3 I could think of. MAYBE, Crowder. Can attempt to trade Ayodele. But, will likely just have to cut him.

Porter has zero trade value.

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Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:26 pm

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He's my favorite Dolphin and probably wouldn't net a worthwhile price but Ronnie Brown should be on the block.

I would agree with this if we could get a high pick (1st, 2nd round)... but with his injury history I dont see that happening.

Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:11 pm

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I have not read anywhere that Ayodele is a free agent. They are talking about cutting him. He still has a year or two left on his deal.

I think Ted Ginn is your most likely target. Camarillo's team friendly contract might make him attractive to WR starved teams. I've said it before, but maybe a guy like Merling, who maybe needs more time to emerge, makes a nice piece for teams looking to convert to a 34 defense.

Not sure much really happens, just proposing some out of the box ideas.

Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:35 am

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I

I think Ted Ginn is your most likely target.

The only team I see that is as much or more starved at WR than our team would be the Baltimore Ravens, particularly considering Mason's likely retirement.

I feel that they will be our likeliest competitor in the free agent WR market. Finding a way to trade Ted Ginn to them makes more sense than trying to work out a deal for him with any other team. Ginn has speed that would pair nicely with Flacco's big arm, and Ted and his family could be reunited with Cam Cameron in Balt. Furthermore, sending Ginn there would lessen Baltimore's need to go after the guys we're likely to go after.

It all sounds rosy, the only problem is that Ted Ginn's trade value and cap number (vs. production) absolutely suck.

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Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:22 pm

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jammer wrote:

I have not read anywhere that Ayodele is a free agent. They are talking about cutting him. He still has a year or two left on his deal.

I think Ted Ginn is your most likely target. Camarillo's team friendly contract might make him attractive to WR starved teams. I've said it before, but maybe a guy like Merling, who maybe needs more time to emerge, makes a nice piece for teams looking to convert to a 34 defense.

Not sure much really happens, just proposing some out of the box ideas.

on another forum we mentioned the same about merling ,maybe a team like denver would have some interest??? [merling and a pick for marshall???]

ginn is a obvious choice for a trade hoping to get a 4th or 5th for him

it would be nice to get a pick or 2 from one of the players below

OLB Joey Porter – The Dolphins owe Porter $1.2 million on bonuses by March. If they believe the aging pass rusher is worth the bonuses, plus his $3.6 million salary in 2010 he’ll stay for at least one more season. If they decide they don't want him around he'll be cut loose, becoming an unrestricted free agent.

ILB Akin Ayodele– He’ll be 31 next season, and while he’s still productive (finishing third on the team with 71 tackles) he’s due $3.25 million in the final year of his existing deal. Ayodele is great in the community, and in the locker room, but he struggled with a couple of injuries last season.

ILB Reggie Torbor – The team’s backup inside linebacker had an average season (37 tackles, one sack, one interception), but is due above average money ($3.05 million) in 2010. While it's ideal for the linebacker unit to get younger, it's hard to justify letting both Ayodele and Torbor go in one offseason. Torbor also serves as one of the top special teams contributors.

CB Jason Allen– The team’s 2006 first-round pick hasn’t established himself as a reliable cornerback in two seasons at the position. He's due $1.27 million in 2010, which is a lot for a backup cornerback who primarily served as a special teams ace. But cutting Allen means they create another void on the roster. It's more realistic that he'll be brought to training camp and asked to compete for playing time.

Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:53 pm

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Brown, Williams or Porter may be the only players that would attract another team. (Merling too)But Brown seems the most attractive and i would deal him for a 4th rounder or better.

Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:49 pm

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Re: Who could be trade bait

MdDolfan wrote:

Brown, Williams or Porter may be the only players that would attract another team. (Merling too)But Brown seems the most attractive and i would deal him for a 4th rounder or better.

And that is why we are all glad you're not the GM of our favorite team.

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Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:12 pm

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Iowafin wrote:

MdDolfan wrote:

Brown, Williams or Porter may be the only players that would attract another team. (Merling too)But Brown seems the most attractive and i would deal him for a 4th rounder or better.

And that is why we are all glad you're not the GM of our favorite team.

a 4th rounder??? wow.

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Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:21 pm

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joeschmoe wrote:

Iowafin wrote:

MdDolfan wrote:

Brown, Williams or Porter may be the only players that would attract another team. (Merling too)But Brown seems the most attractive and i would deal him for a 4th rounder or better.

And that is why we are all glad you're not the GM of our favorite team.

a 4th rounder??? wow.

Hey, I trade number 2 overalls for a 4th round pick every day. By overalls I mean the pants, and by 4th round pick, I mean someone gets to pick my nose after I've had 4 rounds of beer.

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Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:40 pm

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I'd trade Chad Henne for a supplemental draft pick.

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Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:41 am

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Rich wrote:

I'd trade Chad Henne for a supplemental draft pick.

Seems like a fair deal.

Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:21 am

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I'd trade Chad Henne for a supplemental draft pick.

Supplemental draft picks can't be traded. Maybe Henne and a 7th for a 6th?

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Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:43 am

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Gentlax13 wrote:

Rich wrote:

I'd trade Chad Henne for a supplemental draft pick.

Supplemental draft picks can't be traded. Maybe Henne and a 7th for a 6th?

You guys aren't quick at catching jokes, are ya...

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Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:52 am

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Re: Who could be trade bait

Rich wrote:

Gentlax13 wrote:

Rich wrote:

I'd trade Chad Henne for a supplemental draft pick.

Supplemental draft picks can't be traded. Maybe Henne and a 7th for a 6th?

You guys aren't quick at catching jokes, are ya...

I'm pretty sure that "Henne and a 7th for a 6th?" was a joke.

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Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:53 am

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I'm pretty sure that "Henne and a 7th for a 6th?" was a joke.

I'm fully aware that it was...

I was referring to those taking my post of trading him for a supplemental draft pick as serious...

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Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:56 am

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joeschmoe wrote:

I'm pretty sure that "Henne and a 7th for a 6th?" was a joke.

I'm fully aware that it was...

I was referring to those taking my post of trading him for a supplemental draft pick as serious...

I don't think anybody took that as serious except maybe MdDolfan

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I don't think anybody took that as serious except maybe MdDolfan

Ok dude.

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Rich wrote:

joeschmoe wrote:

I don't think anybody took that as serious except maybe MdDolfan

Ok dude.

Did someone take it serious?

Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:11 pm

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IamPZ wrote:

Rich wrote:

joeschmoe wrote:

I don't think anybody took that as serious except maybe MdDolfan

Ok dude.

Did someone take it serious?

Yes, we all did. Remember?

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IamPZ wrote:

Rich wrote:

joeschmoe wrote:

I don't think anybody took that as serious except maybe MdDolfan

Ok dude.

Did someone take it serious?

Not you, but gent did.

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Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:15 pm

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Not you, but gent did.

Can't speak for the guy, but I'm pretty sure he was just adding to the joke.

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MdDolfan wrote:

Brown, Williams or Porter may be the only players that would attract another team. (Merling too)But Brown seems the most attractive and i would deal him for a 4th rounder or better.

You really thin the best you can do for brown is a 4th rounder???? You are joking right

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phins2phins wrote:

MdDolfan wrote:

Brown, Williams or Porter may be the only players that would attract another team. (Merling too)But Brown seems the most attractive and i would deal him for a 4th rounder or better.

You really thin the best you can do for brown is a 4th rounder???? You are joking right

Sadly, he could be right. Teams aren't throwing around draft picks all that often anymore... especially on injury prone RBs...

Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:37 pm

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IamPZ wrote:

phins2phins wrote:

MdDolfan wrote:

Brown, Williams or Porter may be the only players that would attract another team. (Merling too)But Brown seems the most attractive and i would deal him for a 4th rounder or better.

You really thin the best you can do for brown is a 4th rounder???? You are joking right

Sadly, he could be right. Teams aren't throwing around draft picks all that often anymore... especially on injury prone RBs...

I don't question what other team's would give up for him. I'm just not so sure that giving up Brown for a 4th rounder makes any sense. He's a first round talent, he's struggled with injuries, yes...but when he's in there, this offense goes.