Domin8 - So are we saying 8mo “fetus-body” in a woman is not a real person? Is it a fair argument of pro abortion side to tell the other side? I am not sure it it “feels” pain at this stage? What can we tell the other side without being unreasonable ?

it takes shit time in this medical system to get appointment, u have to have proper insurance, have to be brave enough to go through with it.. many cases are teens / early 20s, non intended pregnancy.. shit happens

I am not, I am trying to see why so many are pushing for as late stage abortion as possible, without medical reasons. Seems like it’s totally reasonable to limit it by 2mi max and have a middle ground.

Yes shit happens, but do it before too late and a new person can breathe and feel, everyone is happy. Or go through this and leave child in the clinic. Why killing someone without the necessity? Kids would be thankful when they grow up.

At 8 months it's murder and no one does it as the baby can survive on its own. I don't know the limit but I believe most state set it at a more reasonable stage like 4 months when it is not viable yet. Here you have your middle ground

How about you stop your blood libel argument falsely equating early stage of formation of life to human life?That what fundamentals always did when they don't like something. They throw false murder charge.

Ok, so, according to you a POTENTIAL for the development of human life supersedes woman's ability to have freedom and individualism.You choose the potential for consciousness over woman's consciousness.

I challenge your assumption that only humans are conscious. How would you respond when considering that other primates can learn hundreds of words in sign language? Maybe...what is so unique about our conscious vs. an animal?

I’m asking because you reek of inherent bias and can’t look beyond what you were told to say as a young child. You vomit the beliefs of others. I could make an argument that you don’t have a consciousness.

For the record, I have no association with D's assertion of equating humans to animals or animals to humans.I'm fully on a side of human supremacy and demand protection for human rights. Especially human rights of young poor women.

The only power that can forbid my free will is dictated from the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

That’s why I always use Parmesan.

On the real, newsflash - terrible stuff happens all of the time. You never even are aware of 99% of it, and certainly not things that happened 500, 1000, or 10,000 years ago. The world turns and none of our existences actually do anything. There is no grand scheme, there are no universal morals, there is no aggregate consequence.

🙄 when the government forcefully takes possession of woman's body, transportation to the safe harbor is what needs to be done. Transportation to a safe harbor to protect a women from abusive lawless government is what's right.

I have stats on how many humans were killed by the police for no reason, during mass shootings, during fake for profit wars or due to healthcare access deprivation. If they are trying to play the government, they should focus on that.

They don't threw up from alcohol? Where do you get all this shit? If pregnant cannot drink alcohol it's for the baby well being, but nothing prevent women to drink while pregnant. no difference for them.They also don't get fat, and especially not in a few weeks, the first noticeable sign is the lack of period, but for some women it's frequent to be late. And for some women also keeps having their period whole pregnant (though really rare)