Wednesday, May 13, 2009

Value system

Comments (24)

I kinda have to agree, the al-Qaeda types blow things up over newspaper articles, I dont see how this would make them any happier. I mean really, whats the point? Obama has made it clear he's not going to do anything about it anyway.

I'm curious about what the advocates of releasing the photos believe is to be gained by doing so? We already know what methods of interrogation were used on whom and when. What would releasing the photos accomplish other than further infuriating poeple in other countries and possibly putting our soldiers in the field in greater danger?

It's funny to see Liz Cheney lumped in with all the hard core republicans. That's where she's at right now for sure, but as I remember, in college she was a "fierce" shaved-head dyke, advocating for the GLB "community" and women's rights and stuff like that. She was cool. What a huge 180! You wonder if dad went through the same kind of change as daughter. I'll probably disappear for writing this now.

Count me as one of the "loons" who want these pictures released. Maybe the public outrage will finally be heard in Washington and force Obama and Congress to hold the torturers (and their enablers) accountable. And if it further inflames hatred against the US, then so be it....you reap what you sow.

People can accept torture as a reasonable tactic or not, but I don't think the release of pictures is really going to sway too many in the public. We can dick around over what types of physical or mental pain constitute torture, but there doesn't seem like too much debate that "torture" means "something that is really really painful that would be used in extreme (or under no) circumstances."

Seeing pictures of it would do more damage than good and give USA haters one more thing to use to recruit. To the post above that said "you reap what you sow," you do realize that even if Bush and Cheney were responsible, it will be the soldiers and possibly US citizens that suffer the consequences? Or is that still worth it to you just so you can prosecute a political enemy?

...you do realize that even if Bush and Cheney were responsible, it will be the soldiers and possibly US citizens that suffer the consequences? Or is that still worth it to you just so you can prosecute a political enemy?

This isn't about prosecuting political enemies - Democrats who aided torture and lawlessness should also be held to account - this is about demanding justice and adherence to domestic and international law. And I have a 21 year old nephew serving in Afghanistan, so spare me the lecture about not supporting the troops.

You're spared. It isn't about "supporting the troops" as much as "asking for them to be placed in greater risk." Going after those in charge can be accomplished in a way that doesn't turn things into My Lai or Nuremburg.

Seeing pictures of it would do more damage than good and give USA haters one more thing to use to recruit.

Actually, the use of torture already did that. Mission accomplished. Releasing the pictures could be seen as an act of reconciliation. Hard core terrorist won't be swayed, of course, but moderates might be. We did it, why not own up to it?

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