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Tuesday, January 26, 2010

Question from Sasha - Living descendants of Henry VII and Elizabeth of York

I know there are no decendants of Henry VIII on record. I would like to know are there any direct decendants of Henry VII & Elizabeth of York? Birth records seem to cease at a certain piont. If there are do they hold any titles?

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Off the top of my head, I know of one for sure - Queen Elizabeth II! Here's her line of descent from them: http://tudorhistory.org/trees/er2.html So most (if not all) of the living British royals are going to have some connection to Henry VII and Elizabeth of York.

There are several other lines of descent to today, including some from Mary Tudor. One line that I can think of quickly is from the marriage of Catherine Grey (granddaughter of Mary Tudor) and Edward Seymour. Their descendants are still the Dukes of Somerset today.

I worked for a Yorkshire family last name Milne-Coates also Milne-Gaskell was told they could trace liniage back to Mary Tudor sister of Henry VIII dont know if it was through Frances Brandon or her sister. I did google a webside on decendents of Mary Tudor Queen of France and it did show this family being decendents

You get some interesting results by looking at the descendants of illegitimate children of the various monarchs, remembering that, as Lara has already pointed out, all monarchs and their children since the time of King James I to the present day are descended from Henry VII through his daughter Margaret, the grandmother of King James’s mother, Mary Queen of Scots.

James’s grandson, Charles II, had 14 children, unfortunately none of them to his wife! Diana Princess of Wales was descended from Charles II and Barbara Villiers, Duchess of Cleveland, while the Dukes of St Albans stem from Charles II and the actress and former orange seller, Eleanor(Nell) Gwyn.

Charles II was followed by his brother as James II. He was the father of the Queens Mary II and Anne, both of whom had no surviving children, but James II also had another large family with his second wife, as well as a number of children to mistresses – all these children were descended from Henry VII & Elizabeth of York. Several would survive to produce large families themselves, often having married relatives also descended from Henry VII.

Nearer our own times King William IV, one of Queen Victoria’s uncles, had 10 children with the actress Dorothea Jordan while he was still Duke of Clarence. Their daughter Elizabeth Fitzclarence is an ancestor of David Cameron the current Leader of the Conservative Party (the next Prime Minister?), whose wife Samantha Sheffield is descended from Charles II and Nell Gwyn.

These are just a few examples amongst what must be several thousand descendants of Henry VII and his wife.

It is possible that Henry Fitzroy died a virgin. There is some indications that he and his wife, Mary Howard daughter of the 3rd Duke of Norfolk, were deliberately kept apart to avoid pregnancy. Any child from this union would have presented a serious challenge to the succession. Although the official reason was the couple's youth. They were both 14 when they married.

Mary Howard was a very strong and vocal member of the elite. She embraced the Reformation and argued forcefully for Henry VIII to pay her dower payments, threatening her father if he did not pursue her financial rights diligently enough.

Henry Fitzroy died 22 July 1536 at age 17 as Lara said. Mary died 9 Dec 1557 at the age of 38. She never remarried. Although there were multiple schemes for various candidates she refused them all.

Every English monarch since James I has been a direct descendant of Mary, Queen of Scots, great-grandaughter of Henry VII so yes, there are plenty of descendants of Henry VII and Elizabeth of York through that line via their daughter Margaret.

Also, their other daughter Mary Tudor had a daughter Frances Brandon, mother of Lady Jane Grey. Jane's younger sister Katherine had two sons, the elder of whom had several children. Queen Elizabeth II is also a descendant of this line of the family through her mother, the late Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother.

Dear Sasha, there are many descendants mostly illegitimate in lineage, however one line is not illegitimate and its existence has been covered up for 300 years with lies and falsified facts. John Robert Layton of Scranton, Pa is the heir to the throne of King James II and VII. Layton is best known as Prince John of Rohan and the Titular King of England and Scotland. All claims that he is not real or legitimate pale in truth when it is not widely known that as of today he and his family are on forced exile and forbidden from traveling to England and Scotland under penalty of imprisonment. there are several bios out on the subject including "From Charlemagne to Prince John: The Greatest Royal Lineage in Human History" on Amazon and Kindle! Just 99 cents on Kindle! Over 318 pages of genealogy charts and solid proof that he is indeed the real King.

hi there i have quite a few royals in my my family i have tudors welsh german scottish and s saxon princess in the family i also have an archbishop of york i have family burried in westminster abby i have family from midevil to revolutionary war. civil war. world war one and two

hi i also have welsh royalty german royalty scottish english tudor and a saxon princess i have family burried in westminster abby and ihave a archbisop that was in british parliment one my family in wales wouldnt pay hommage to edward so he killed him and conquered wales and stoled my code of arms that they still possess to this day

Henry VII's daughter Margaret married James IV of Scotland, their son James V was a prolific produce of documented illigitimate children - many of whom were given titles - I, myself, descend from one of these bastards as do no doubt thousands of others, I've no idea how common descent from Henry VII is, but I'm from a typical working class scottish background.

I am a 24th grandson of them through King John. My family comes through a female offspring of his who married into the Berkley family. A latter daughter married Samuel Wynne and came to Philadelphia. From there the line comes through my maternal grandmother.

I am a living decendant of Mary Boleyn - she was Henry viii's mistress for a good while, and she was my 13th Great grandmother. Rumour has it that her son Henry was actually the illegitimate son of Henry viii - and portraits of him at the time do seem to suggest a family resemblance. If this is indeed true ( as most academics agree) then that would make Henry Viii my 13th Great grandfather. So where the heck is my inheritance? I want my castles back! Thinking of doing a game of thrones and coming back from New Zealand to claim my throne. Who will support me?

I am a descendant of Katherine Grey through the Seymours and the Earls of Winchelsea. Henry VIII's will indicated that after his son Edward, his younger sister's line should inherit. Edward affirmed this before he died. When Lady Jane was executed, her sister's line became the legitimate one. Mary , Elizabeth, the Stuarts and especially that Hanoverian lot are all usurpers.

I have only just started to trace my family tree. I have only reached the late 1700s on my mother's Welsh side but have come across a Mary Tudor. I would love to know if this line actually goes back to the Tudors but I have reached a blank. Any suggestions?

I am a direct decedent from Henry VII through Mary Queen of France Frances Grey and Katherine Grey, on to my paternal Great Grandmother, Miss Pigott Brown. Through my other Paternal Great Grandmother, a Howard, that line goes to the Boleyns, thus making me pretty closely related to Elizabeth I, well closer than most others! More recently, my great great grandmother is rumoured to be an illegitimate daughter of Edward VII, one of the many

Hi, after my Grandmother was telling me that we were decedent of Henry VII, I too went online to search this. Apparently we are decedent to Henry through his daughter Mary. I'm not entirely sure, but I do know that the Seymours descend directly through this line, and tracing my family tree back their is evidence of this possibly through a man named Robert Seymour, my 7th Great Grandfather. But I can't find anymore info about him. I'm guessing he's the same Robert Seymour, son of Lord William Seymour. That would be pretty neat if it were so.

Hope this helps any. I'm still working this out myself, it all fascinates me greatly.

Interestingly, while doing a family tree through ancestry.com, I found that Rev. Sir Richard Edwards is my 12th great grandfather in a direct family line... which makes Henry VII my 13th great grandfather!Sir Richard Edwards is the illegitimate son of Henry VII and his mistress Agnes Blewitt... apparently.

My family has always been interested in our heritage and we recently found out that we are descendants of Mary, Queen of Scots and King James I, through my Great-Grandmother who is a Shelton. We have always known that we had Scotch-Irish and English heritage, but didn't know through which relative. It is very interesting and special, indeed. Today as I type this, it is March 22, 2014. I know there are many descendants from this line, but it is still interesting and fun to find out this information...has made me want to look up more information on this family.

Henry VII and Elizabeth of York are my 17th great grandparents on my family tree. I am a direct descendant of their daughter Mary Tudor and Mary's daughter Frances Brandon. The line arrives in the MA colony and continues to reside in New England today.

This is all very confusing for me. My 16x's great grandfather is William Barns who married Dorothy Drury who was the Daughter of Robert Drury who was married to Ann Stapelton who was the daughter of Cathrine De pole. Well How does my line fall into a connection of the house of Winsor? Cousins? There is steps and in laws and grand parents of husbands. Thank you.

I have been on ancestry for a while, I was always told we had royalty in our family. I was floored yesterday when I found out that William the Conqueror and Maud are my 28th Generation grandparents. But I guess there are tens of thousands of living relatives who have never been invited to any royal parties.

As far as I know I am related to no one famous. My dad's family is from Ireland (both North and Republic of), and there is a big chunk of English in there too. It would be fun to find out things further, but as hard as I have tried I can't get beyond great grandparents. Then there are the Hungarians (and Transylvanians) on my mom's side - perhaps Vlad the Impaler???

My mother is the only female that is directly descended from King Henry VIII through Richard Edwardes who was made a Gentlemen of the Chapel Royal, and master of the singing boys. and his mother Angus Blewit. I have a cousin who could possibly be the last male to be carrying the Y-Chromosome of the Tudor Line. What do I do and how do I get in contact with the Royal Family.

I am the 18th Great Grandson of King James I, 5th High Steward of Scotland .. I learned this as well on Ancestry.com . . My royal blood line started here in the United States in the mid 1600 ' s when my Grandmother Lady Margaret Gordon Married my Grandfather Colonel John Todd.. I am a direct descendant thru my Grandfathers' line. . Surname (Hollis).. Also directly descendant of King Robert De Bruc..

Wow so many descendants of almost all the royal family back them from king Henry vii and Elizabeth and also 8 king Henry the viii it is almost imposible to trace back since back then they would marry into there own family members like for example queen elizabeth ii and her husband are distantly related so was queen Victoria her husband was her cousin so you see how hard it would be to even try to find out some of the Kings and queens had also mistresses so you see how hard it is so that's why there is so many family's out there

Anyways I too have always been interested to find out where I am related too or where my family comes from it could be I also am related to the family as well the one thing it's very confusing since elizabeth I is related to elizabeth ii as 13 times removed very very interesting

Anyways please help me find out my heritage I'm stuck on my grandparents side I also want to find out on my husband's side since he's father father was from Spain and one of my husband's grandmother's was German as well so please help me

Queen of Scots Margaret Tudor is my 14th Great Grandmother thru the lineage of King William IV Hanover on the illegitimate side from one of his illegitimate son. Which makes me related to Prime Minister Camron of England and also Queen Elizabeth is my 5th Cousin thru Queen Victoria was the niece of my 4th Great Grandfather King William IV also our family is a lineage of King David of Israel thru the tribe of Judah thru Perez which is one of . The twin sons of Judah & Tamar

So my two, from the english side, edward, I,II,III,VI, HenryVII, William the Conquer, on the scottish side, all the High Stewards of Scotland, Robert the Bruce, rRobert I,II,III, James IV, and many more, lol, my tree is ridiculous. Lol

We traced our family all the way back past Robert I King of Scotland.... he was my 25th? great grandfather. We as well got all the way to William the Conquer through another grandparent. James V and Marie de Guise would have been my 15th great grandparent, Margaret Tudor is my 16th great-grandmother and King Henry VII is my 17th great grandfather....etc, yet still..... no castle lol

I have so many more direct ancestors as Kings and Queens and Empress and immediate family (not cousins) and I have looked to their ethnic origins. I found only usurpers so far. Since I have only one bastard, I think I am qualified to comment why should the "english" keep "their" royalty? It is all foreign usurpers. Is it not?

The DNA findings have not been favorable for QofE, and so, DNA testing of the bones of the two boys is not being allowed.My DNA is favorable, in all my family tree of Kings, Queens, Empress, and immediate family royals (not cousins) so I think I should be allowed to comment.

I am a Tudor from the Royalty blood line amd I'm wanting to look up my family history as well..I just moved to Boston and there are so many Tudor graves here and I wondering if I am related to any of them...but have no idea how to go about it..My Dad said two different blood lines came to the states..but we aren't related to all of them

My family tree is at ancestry.comhttp://trees.ancestry.com/tree/42685418/family/pedigreeI don't know if you can see it, using that link.If you can, in the upper right hand corner Search a name of an ancestor Tudor you have - if a common ancestor, then you can see their ancestors. I have the so-called "English" Kings and Queens, except the Saxon-Coburg (German) line. I am also not related to King George, Charles, or the "House of Winsor" pretenders in spite of all efforts past and present to rewrite history, there is no justification whatsoever for the notion of "royals" if you find out the real story, they are warmongers and/or politicians all, in spite of "sainthood" of more than a few of my direct ancestors, it is only about theft and murder or subjugation. Not a proud history. Most of that "royalty" in this country knows all too well what that government is, for a fact. Most chose emancipation, here.

I just found out I am a descendant of them through Margaret Queen of Scotland after a million hours checking and rechecking records. This is the only relative I've found in any branch of my family that is a Queen. There are a few Earls and Barons, Lords and Ladies and such on this one branch so I thought it might lead somewhere, but shocked that it did. My father has been emailing me and begging me not to tell my mother. He's afraid she'll be more controlling and ferocious than she already is...hahaha. I'm descended from one of her daughters who married the Earl of Ruthven. He was beheaded, so I'm kinda glad I'm a poor art teacher and don't have the daily concern of being executed anytime soon.

I would imagine there are thousands and thousands of us, but it's still exciting.

Through our family's genealogy, and help from Geni - Henry is my 15th G. grandfather. Mary Tudor my 14th G. grandmother. I wonder how many of us are out there still living. This lineage is up through the Sinclair line on my Mothers side.

I am a descendant of King James I do not know which marriage but I am legitimate my grandma told me everything about so I believe her I am his great great great great great great granddaughter I found out on ancestry I am only 12 years old

Henry VII is my 15th great grandfather.... can I move to England? Seriously, I want out of here.... I am descended from a lot of different royal families....can someone explain to me why I am sitting here in Georgia?

Oh, it's not the wealth and ballgowns I would want - I am a bit of an introvert and I love jeans LOL. I just want to move to England, period. It is so beautiful there. I read that it is hard to move there - tough immigration rules. So far, I have found that the current Queen Elizabeth is my 27th cousin 2x removed ha! I was just wondering how the heck to get myself into England one day... and have my perfect English garden... :)

I was reading this book about all the Kings there have been in England if you count the kings of Wessex etc there were probably a thousand or so the book said so its possible those kings had many offspring both legitimate and otherwise so i think everyone who has english ancestors could be descended from anyone of those kings maybe we are all royal

Hey I'm Dominic Tudor, I read every part about the Tudors history and I'm still kinda lost on my why my name is Tudor, my family has always had the last name sense they live in Poland but I was born in raised in the USA like my dad and mom, does anyone lead me to something with more sources soo I can research more into it?

Hey my name is Dominic Tudor, I did a lot of research where my family had gotten the last name, they have always had the last name even before moving to America from Poland and England, can anyone lead to more sources on where I can get more info. Kinda lost cause they had this last name for a vary long time but idk where I can get the full truth on

There are many descendents of Henry VIII alive today. Elizabeth I had several illegitimate children. Whether or not they'd have a legitimate claim to the throne of England, is another story altogether.

Catherine Pole is the granddaughter of one of Margaret Poles children who is the daughter of George Plantagenet who is the child of Richard Duke of York. Richard was Elizabeth, Henry VII wife’s grandmother. Therefore, you are very distant cousins of queen Elizabeth II and other royalty

Hello. I'm trying to trace the lineage of Elizabeth Smith buried in everals chapel in Ohio. I have discovered she was an immigrant from England in the early 1800s and maiden name was Tudor. I believe she came from Gloucestershire originally. I'd love to see how far back she may show lineage for our historical society purposes and I'm aware that were many illegitimate lineages. I'm just looking for more clues.

I’m a descendant of Edward Tudor from Shrewsbury b 1791 a Contractor on his sons marriage certificate his father Richard Tudor from Smethcott. Is there any connection from the royal Tudors from Northern Wales ?

All of you who are taking your "descent" from kings and queens from info you found online are aware that most is nothing but people reaching to get that royal connection right? For example Henry the seventh had no mistresses and hence no illegitimate children. And ancestry.com trees can be bogus as well...in my research I found a woman who claimed descent from Henry the eighth...and it might have worked except her ancestors would have been 4 years old when she gave birth. Be very careful of what others claim

I have been working on my family tree for quite some time now. My 17th great grandmother was a documented mistress of Henry VIII. She was also the Lady In Waiting to the Queen. I also traced it back that Henry VI is my 19th great grandfather. At the same time I found out that my 20th great grandfather on the Queen side was also the King of France. I know many people have found that they have direct lineage to the Monarchs. It’s hard to find records beyond 1400. If anyone else has found these links, please email me: mnr6658@aol.com

James Braffett sez Im not sure how accurate this may be but I did a profile on 23 and me and was told my maternal DNA lineage is in line with the resent discovery of Richard the 111 thru Anne of York his sister. My mothers DNA sequence is in line with Ann of York daughter of King Edward the 111. Hoe accurate is this not sure what Im hearing

Recently did a DNA profile with 23 and me, received an email telling me of updates. The update told me my mothers maternal lineage is in line with the resent DNA find of King Richard THE 111 thru his sister Ann of York. How accurate is this?not sure what to make of it?