'Fossil fuel' theory takes hit with NASA finding - NASA scientists are about to publish conclusive studies showing abundant methane of a non-biologic nature is found on Saturn's giant moon Titan, a finding that validates a contention that oil is not a fossil fuel.[/SIZE][/B] (World Net Daily; Dec. 1, 2005)

Nothing better than a rip roaring fire made from wood.. Seriously, I remember 25 cent gas, this peak oil tripe was started by commie tards back in the 50's. The end game? Control over the price of crude so wall street speculators(goldman sachs) could reap huge profits...Wake up and smell the truth. Peak oil, global warming, all races are the same, this is all one big giant lie pushed down our throats for the last 60 years.

'Fossil fuel' theory takes hit with NASA finding - NASA scientists are about to publish conclusive studies showing abundant methane of a non-biologic nature is found on Saturn's giant moon Titan, a finding that validates a contention that oil is not a fossil fuel.[/SIZE][/B] (World Net Daily; Dec. 1, 2005)

Maybe Iron Man would know this. Why not post this in the science section?

Well, The anti's are so smart, I am sure they would like to discuss abiotic oil,perhaps it is the fact, that German scientists discovered this back in the 1920's that is holding them back. Oil is naturally occurring at depths where there could not possibly be any so called fossil remains.

I was on a large river and came upon a bend in the river that had what you could call a sand bar but it was covered in pebbles, rock, wood, etc. This bar produced some interesting finds. I found some sizable very old American Indian pottery with designs you esily make out considering the rolling about it recieved in the river over time. Not really that the pottery pieces were probably rolling around in the river for hundreds of years, but for a while and probably unearthed and washed into the river during rainfall errosion that helped send it into the river. The same for the many pebbles and rocks and rolled worn wood pieces I found.

More to my point, I found a two fisted size piece of wood that clearly was really old. It was a petrified wood. In part of it you could clearly see the annual rings and grain of the wood and it was truly petrified as hard as rock. But there was a transition in this piece as part of it was coal.

From this find it caused me to ponder some thought. Now we all know that most all wood will burn. We also know that wood and vegetable matter can be turned into alcohol that can be burned, such as corn into alcohol to burn in autos.

I have come to fully believe without a dout that fossil fuels such as coal and oil as well as natural gas comes directly through an aging and pressure process converted directly from earth's decaying vegetation more than anything else such as decaying animals. Although I would not say that decaying animals may not contribute and make a variation to the coal, oil, and natural gas deposites in the earth, but they are more a product that comes from vegetation rather than animal matter.

"Peak Oil", is a claim that the earth's population has begun to exceed the amount of avilable retrieveable earth's natural oil deposits. I say oil,coal, and natural gas is a completely renewable energy scource and it is being renewed each and every day continuously. As plants shed leaves, bark, trees, die and rot each day it goes into the earth's crust as well as animals that die. New plant and animal life is born every day. The cycles happen and will as long as man dosen't pave the earth with concrete wiping out forrests. True there could easily be a point of no returns should that not stay in check.

I call hog wash on the idea that oil comes completely and only from fossilized extinct dinosaurs. A swamp will produce methane gases in current realtime status at times. You can smell it. Oil is also found in ocean sea beds. There again, the oceans are old and it too has plant and fish constant turn over rate to it. Natural oil deposits as well as natural gases have a tendency to pool or in gases collect in domes in the earth.

But as Blueearth pointed out these energy rescorces are commodities and the trick is to get the most profits out of them that you can. However I do love the idea of conserving stuff.

I wish the globalist would back off expanding the global markets, they surely don't seem to be too concerned about the "Peak Oil" lie article that they use to push up profits. Global markets expansion which will increase global population rise and subbsequently increased energy demand is exactly what you don't do if "Peak Oil" were true and real.

But that find of the petrified wood that was half petrified and half coal convinced me that fossil fuels come mainly from the everyday replentishment of dying plant life. But true it takes time and pressure for it to form, but it happens at a constant rate. New growth and death happens everyday on this planet.

Oil is different from coal. Oil is found deep down, sometimes it does bubble up to the surface, coal is most likely organic as it is found close to the surface,oil I don't think so. Titan is loaded with methane and as I pointed out, there are no dinosaurs there at a balmy -290 degrees.