Roll your eyes all you want, sparky. The only heroin the Taliban didn't eradicate was controlled by Nothern Alliance militias in No Man's Land - who are controlled by current afghan president Hamid Karzai's brother.

Care to explain why the taliban did not destroy the 5 years worth of opium they had stored in warehouses.The taliban let production slow down so that the price would go up.It was a business descision,it had nothing to do with getting rid of opium.As soon as the price went back up,opium fields went back into production.Anyone who thinks that the taliban was trying to destroy opium is delusional

The questions "What are we fighting for?" and "Can we succeed? are complex and encompass and multitude of factors. We have to make a clear distinction between Iraq and Afghanistan. Iraq is a British colonial invention, an exercise in British line drawing. But Afghanistan has had a long history as a collective entity. Iraq has three major ethnic groups, the Kurds, Sunnis and the Shia majority. Interesting how this was accurately recognized as a major obstacle in ensuring stability. Biden had once even suggested partitioning the country, it would be impossible to stabilize. Would he say the same for a future America? Iraq, for now, is "stable" but at any opportunity, likely the first economic hardship, the country will splinter along ethnic lines. The Kurds have no interest in sharing their oil wealth with the Sunni and the Shia wouldn't mind being a protectorate of Iran. Many regional countries would like to see a U.S. puppet regime fall, but they would want to avoid the flood of refugees. Iraq may be a short term success story but on a 30-40 year time horizon that country as a single entity will be no more.

No foreign power has asserted permanent control over Afghanistan in centuries. Although it is worth noting this interesting aside. The Greco-Bactrian Kingdom, an off shoot of the Seleucid Empire, retained and controlled most of Afghanistan. From 256-125 BC, the Greek nobles asserted a large amount of control, creating a complex society. The empire likely fell from foreign invaders and moved east to form the Indo-Greek Kingdom not succumbing to the environment until 14 AD. But in modern times, the nation has always been a loose bands of tribes, but amazingly resisting any foreign power. "The Great Game" while engulfing Persia, India and parts of Central Asia, was never able to subdue Afghanistan. The pawns had to move elsewhere. Cable news has belabored the Soviet invasion; using it in whatever way the conflict serves to benefit their myopic dueling ideologies. As if its exact sequence of events should prove prophetic, citing no other conflict as an example. The Soviets treated the Afghanis in an unbelievably cruel manner, but we have no way of knowing our conduct in Afghanistan. I am not suggesting we are massacring people in mass, but history shows the idealized view of war is often inaccurate. Winners write the history books, but seeds of truth find themselves in the minds of a minority. Problems abound exist in securing Afghanistan. The geography is so forbidding that even in this age of technology there are serious disadvantages for an invader. This is a major reason I believe the Taliban will always exist in some formidable capacity. The Taliban has become largely an indigenous movement, not the “radical extremists” we feel comfortable brutalizing. Radical elements exist in the leadership but most proud passionate Afghanis will fight for their families and communities, not for some hostile foreign power. This video illustrates a sobering reality of our efforts to secure the corruption laden country.

We have to acknowledge the valor, bravery, and the sacrifice of many in the military. The people on the ground take their orders, but does the average recruit consider the Neo-Con agenda? The answer is no, nor is it his place too. The terrifying reality, most of us realize, is that our once great nation exists only in name. What’s really heart wrenching is knowing we created this enemy, and innocent men with admirable character, rush to fight for the nation they think they love. These men are fighting and dying for Israel, our support for that nation is the reason we were attacked on 9/11. A bold statement, but we held good relations with the Middle East prior in 1948; since 1948, a multitude of problems have come to manifest themselves from this root issue. Oil has been a major issue but only since we inflamed their passions. The response has not been kind: Hostage taking, embassy bombings, and of course 9/11. They do not hate our freedoms, Sweden or Iceland are never attacked (A point wonderfully illustrated in "My Awakening") they hate Israel. The hate of the Jews has always existed to varying degrees within the Islamic world, but that hatred serves as a lightening rod to address the greater issue- foreign occupation. As with any honorable people, they will never live to ever see that indignity fully realized.

The questions "What are we fighting for?" and "Can we succeed? are complex and encompass and multitude of factors. We have to make a clear distinction between Iraq and Afghanistan. Iraq is a British colonial invention, an exercise in British line drawing. But Afghanistan has had a long history as a collective entity. Iraq has three major ethnic groups, the Kurds, Sunnis and the Shia majority. Interesting how this was accurately recognized as a major obstacle in ensuring stability. Biden had once even suggested partitioning the country, it would be impossible to stabilize. Would he say the same for a future America? Iraq, for now, is "stable" but at any opportunity, likely the first economic hardship, the country will splinter along ethnic lines. The Kurds have no interest in sharing their oil wealth with the Sunni and the Shia wouldn't mind being a protectorate of Iran. Many regional countries would like to see a U.S. puppet regime fall, but they would want to avoid the flood of refugees. Iraq may be a short term success story but on a 30-40 year time horizon that country as a single entity will be no more.

No foreign power has asserted permanent control over Afghanistan in centuries. Although it is worth noting this interesting aside. The Greco-Bactrian Kingdom, an off shoot of the Seleucid Empire, retained and controlled most of Afghanistan. From 256-125 BC, the Greek nobles asserted a large amount of control, creating a complex society. The empire likely fell from foreign invaders and moved east to form the Indo-Greek Kingdom not succumbing to the environment until 14 AD. But in modern times, the nation has always been a loose bands of tribes, but amazingly resisting any foreign power. "The Great Game" while engulfing Persia, India and parts of Central Asia, was never able to subdue Afghanistan. The pawns had to move elsewhere. Cable news has belabored the Soviet invasion; using it in whatever way the conflict serves to benefit their myopic dueling ideologies. As if its exact sequence of events should prove prophetic, citing no other conflict as an example. The Soviets treated the Afghanis in an unbelievably cruel manner, but we have no way of knowing our conduct in Afghanistan. I am not suggesting we are massacring people in mass, but history shows the idealized view of war is often inaccurate. Winners write the history books, but seeds of truth find themselves in the minds of a minority. Problems abound exist in securing Afghanistan. The geography is so forbidding that even in this age of technology there are serious disadvantages for an invader. This is a major reason I believe the Taliban will always exist in some formidable capacity. The Taliban has become largely an indigenous movement, not the “radical extremists” we feel comfortable brutalizing. Radical elements exist in the leadership but most proud passionate Afghanis will fight for their families and communities, not for some hostile foreign power. This video illustrates a sobering reality of our efforts to secure the corruption laden country.

We have to acknowledge the valor, bravery, and the sacrifice of many in the military. The people on the ground take their orders, but does the average recruit consider the Neo-Con agenda? The answer is no, nor is it his place too. The terrifying reality, most of us realize, is that our once great nation exists only in name. What’s really heart wrenching is knowing we created this enemy, and innocent men with admirable character, rush to fight for the nation they think they love. These men are fighting and dying for Israel, our support for that nation is the reason we were attacked on 9/11. A bold statement, but we held good relations with the Middle East prior in 1948; since 1948, a multitude of problems have come to manifest themselves from this root issue. Oil has been a major issue but only since we inflamed their passions. The response has not been kind: Hostage taking, embassy bombings, and of course 9/11. They do not hate our freedoms, Sweden or Iceland are never attacked (A point wonderfully illustrated in "My Awakening") they hate Israel. The hate of the Jews has always existed to varying degrees within the Islamic world, but that hatred serves as a lightening rod to address the greater issue- foreign occupation. As with any honorable people, they will never live to ever see that indignity fully realized.

History shows us the muslim has existed for 100's of years with the agenda of world domination and eradication of the 'infidel'. They have invaded Europe on numerous occasions throughout history, making it to the gates of Vienna, laying seige to Malta and Italy etc, always when they feel they have some kind of advantage, and their current 'soft' invasion of europe is no different. Soon there will be more mosques than Cathedrals in beautiful cultural historical Europe. Every White Aryan should weep tears of blood at this prospect.

We had a Holy Roman Emperor in years gone by to help preserve our culture and identity from this very threat. And now we open our doors to the arab, excuse their madness and treat them as brothers instead of the dangerous subhumans they actually are.

Arabs don't really need excuses for this kind of behaviour - it is the fundamental tenet of their 'religion'. Will millions upon millions of Muslims walk out of Britain and Europe if the US stopped supporting Israel? No - it would drive them on with the feeling that they were unstoppable. The issue isn't really arab terrorism, it's the invasion and destruction of the White Aryan and his homelands by the jew, using the arab and the black. Crotch bombers are the least of my current worries. Survival of my race for the good of the planet is the top of the list.

Arabs have been hopelessly outclassed by western technology in recent history which is one reason it has been 'quiet' in europe. However, now they can lay their hands on the technology of war once more, they are at it again, as predicatable and deadly as ever. It's what they do.

Clearly the jew rubs his hands in glee at this oppurtunity, manipulates, aggravates and, as you say, makes us even more of a target just to ensure that we (White Aryans) get maximum fallout from the whole sorry mess. The White Aryan is the jew's number one target, he cares nothing about the arab except as a tool to attack, manipulate and confuse Whites.

But the arab is self aware and will continue to pursue his chosen destiny against the 'infidel', jew or no jew, regardless.

Far from being 'honorable', arabs are lethal, inbred, and consumed with bloodlust, jealousy and hatred for all things White. As the Talmud does for the jews, the Koran gives the arabs the justification to do whatever they will to any and all infidels, men, women and children. Just because they leave Iceland alone is of very little consolation to me.

Instead of excusing and explaining away their behaviour we need to acknowlegde and assume our own racial destiny as White Aryans and let our actions and decisions flow from that.

The White Aryan is the only builder and maintainer of civilization on this planet. Our Racial Destiny is to subjugate all other races in order to ensure the survival of humanity and its expansion on this planet and beyond. It is why Nature put us here - if we don't rise to the challenge then Nature will deal with us accordingly, without sympathy, and humanity will die out on this world.

Basic Mein Kampf.

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THE ONLY GOOD PRAWN IS A DEAD PRAWN.

History shows us the muslim has existed for 100's of years with the agenda of world domination and eradication of the 'infidel'. They have invaded Europe on numerous occasions throughout history, making it to the gates of Vienna, laying seige to Malta and Italy etc, always when they feel they have some kind of advantage, and their current 'soft' invasion of europe is no different. Soon there will be more mosques than Cathedrals in beautiful cultural historical Europe. Every White Aryan should weep tears of blood at this prospect.

We had a Holy Roman Emperor in years gone by to help preserve our culture and identity from this very threat. And now we open our doors to the arab, excuse their madness and treat them as brothers instead of the dangerous subhumans they actually are.

Arabs don't really need excuses for this kind of behaviour - it is the fundamental tenet of their 'religion'. Will millions upon millions of Muslims walk out of Britain and Europe if the US stopped supporting Israel? No - it would drive them on with the feeling that they were unstoppable. The issue isn't really arab terrorism, it's the invasion and destruction of the White Aryan and his homelands by the jew, using the arab and the black. Crotch bombers are the least of my current worries. Survival of my race for the good of the planet is the top of the list.

Arabs have been hopelessly outclassed by western technology in recent history which is one reason it has been 'quiet' in europe. However, now they can lay their hands on the technology of war once more, they are at it again, as predicatable and deadly as ever. It's what they do.

Clearly the jew rubs his hands in glee at this oppurtunity, manipulates, aggravates and, as you say, makes us even more of a target just to ensure that we (White Aryans) get maximum fallout from the whole sorry mess. The White Aryan is the jew's number one target, he cares nothing about the arab except as a tool to attack, manipulate and confuse Whites.

But the arab is self aware and will continue to pursue his chosen destiny against the 'infidel', jew or no jew, regardless.

Far from being 'honorable', arabs are lethal, inbred, and consumed with bloodlust, jealousy and hatred for all things White. As the Talmud does for the jews, the Koran gives the arabs the justification to do whatever they will to any and all infidels, men, women and children. Just because they leave Iceland alone is of very little consolation to me.

Instead of excusing and explaining away their behaviour we need to acknowlegde and assume our own racial destiny as White Aryans and let our actions and decisions flow from that.

The White Aryan is the only builder and maintainer of civilization on this planet. Our Racial Destiny is to subjugate all other races in order to ensure the survival of humanity and its expansion on this planet and beyond. It is why Nature put us here - if we don't rise to the challenge then Nature will deal with us accordingly, without sympathy, and humanity will die out on this world.

Basic Mein Kampf.

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My analysis was focused on addressing the point "What are we fighting for?" and "Can we succeed? (In Afghanistan and Iraq)". My thoughts were aimed at answering those questions specifically. I do not believe that the U.S. military can, in its current capacity, continue to effectively occupy both Iraq and Afghanistan. We are strained in terms of personal and as federal debt begins to mature, the military will face budget cuts. I don't care what elected officials say, overseas “national security” issues will suffer long before entitlement programs. Entitlement programs will never be cut due to voter selfishness. So if anything military personal will be cut in the long term, it remains to be seen if technology can fill the deficit.

I agree that under no circumstance should we allow the Arabs to have our weapons technology. I can however relate their situation to our own. I sympathize with their situation. This does not mean I see them as allies. Consider this, would you allow China to occupy the south? No, we would react in exactly the same way. We would rally a resistance no matter the resources available. I could one day see ourselves in the same position.

The Muslims had for centuries pushed into Europe, as you mention. First off we have to remember the Eastern Roman Empire that held back Islam in the east for centuries while the rest of Eastern Europe would have been entirely incapable of defending itself. Would a Martel have rose in the East in the absence of the Orthodox Empire? Possibly. However I believe that is by no means a safe assumption. Western Europeans rose to the challenge, such as at the Battle of Tours. The Moors were stopped by the audacious Charles Martel in 732. Christians would finally conquer Hispaniola with the Siege of Granada on January 2,1492. In Central Europe a timely cohesion of Christian forces defeated the Ottomans at the Battle of Vienna in 1683. Their high water mark had been reached, they would forever be in a slow decline. You are entirely correct that Islam had since its inception in the 7th century, continuously pushed against European powers. The Ottomans were a standard barrier of the Islamic faith from 1453 onwards in the eyes of Europe. But their power was waning by the 18th century, they were becoming irrelevant and by the 20th century, subservient

By the 20th century, the Ottoman's were at the mercy of self determined Balkan States. During the first Balkan War (1912-1913), Greece, Montenegro, Bulgaria and Serbia decidedly defeated the Ottomans. It was no secret that the Ottoman's were "The Sick Man of Europe" but this defeat brought this presumption to life. After WWI, the Ottoman Empire dissolved and we had the luxury of bringing them effectively under Europe's rule. We redrew the Middle East to fit our desire, a legacy that exists today. We had the Islamic world under our thumb, and we should have kept it firmly in position. I believe that if an economic partnership had been fostered instead of siding with the Zionists; we could live in our respective parts of our world, held in check by economic stability, which also have prevented the “soft invasion”(great term)

Until 1948 our relations were amiable, our growing interest in oil promised an economic partnership. But the founding of Israel, reignited a then extinct passion to destroy Christians, which is now focused on the U.S. By allowing greater self-determination, the Arab nations gathered strength to act on these passions. The Suez Cannel Crisis tipped the fulcrum decidedly against us, by using French and British troops to occupy the Sinai Peninsula. The rest is history.

Of course now there a multitude of problems unrelated to Israel. But I believe we can trace the root of all Islamic-Western issues in the 20th century to that single event. An epoch clearly exists, a before and after is clear. The soft invasion, as you addressed, is the greatest threat to both America and Europe from two different ethnicities. In Europe’s case, we have some signs of hope. The SVP in Switzerland is a beacon of light in a sea of stupidity. The Danish Peoples Party has often gained immigration concessions within their coalition governments. Geert Wilders is a true hero in the Netherlands. He leads his Freedom Party, sacrificing his own freedom for the sake of his country. England, France and Germany are hopeless, Europe will be an interesting place when the vanquished and the unshakable principles of the determined collide. I'll continue to root for the BNP and the AWB in South Africa, but success is a long shot. But I can't help but admire a people for showing the same traits we would hope all Europeans posses. I agree with you they are the enemy, but the AWB and BNP will be doing the same thing in their respective countries. Once again the Islamic world will be on the losing side, but unfortunately we are only acting in Zionist interests along with the brainwashed Neo-Cons. Something we should keep in mind before condemning their rhetoric in its entirety.

If you mean Whites, the world IS our ONLY business, we are the only civilizing force on this planet and our racial destiny is to subjugate all other races.

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But in the final analysis, the White Aryan, in control of his own racial destiny has both the right and the responsibility to enter that land and use it's people and resources for the expansion of Aryanism.

This sounds vaguely familiar. Where have I heard it before?

Oh wait, I know.....

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If you mean Jews, the world IS our ONLY business, we are the only civilizing force on this planet and our racial destiny is to subjugate all other races.

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Originally Posted by Jew Supremacist

But in the final analysis, the Jew, in control of his own racial destiny has both the right and the responsibility to enter that land and use it's people and resources for the expansion of Jewish interests.

I think we ought to keep in mind that one of our goals as White Nationalists is to expose and defeat our enemy, not become them.

Care to explain why the taliban did not destroy the 5 years worth of opium they had stored in warehouses.The taliban let production slow down so that the price would go up.It was a business descision,it had nothing to do with getting rid of opium.As soon as the price went back up,opium fields went back into production.Anyone who thinks that the taliban was trying to destroy opium is delusional

If you say so, it must be true.

Or perhaps we restored the drug trade to bring economic stability to dirt poor tribes, who will coalesce under our puppet regime, and cooperate with efforts to build an oil pipeline.

I think we ought to keep in mind that one of our goals as White Nationalists is to expose and defeat our enemy, not become them.

Good Lord. They need to screen these guys a little better before they send them over here. Must be the economy. I think they got this one from Labor Ready, or maybe he was holding one of those signs at the freeway exit "will work for food".

His compadre in this thread ain't that much better. He started when the economy was a little better though and they could spring for a sustaining membership.

WTF are you talking about here??? my very own daddy was in Nam, 2 tours, he weren't drafted he VOLUNTEERED!!! now we got boys fighting the muzzies over in Afghan, why the hell do you care so much if a White man kills a few muslims? and yeah sure as hell we gotta finish it cos if we don't we LOSE FACE!!!

Because he is either muslim or a muslim sympathizer. I have not been on here long, but every post that I have seen from Decarlo is aimed at the Jew and defending the Arab / muslim.

This man does not come across as a white nationalist in my opinion, only an Arab imposter.