This episode is great if you have, had or plan on having kids!
My guest Vicki Hoefle is a beast; she’s easy going yet clear about
both the general philosophy for how to be successful as a parent
while giving specific advice for how to handle a number of
challenging circumstances.

I loved this conversation for a number of reasons but a couple
things stood out:

Of course, her wisdom is relevant for parents — or those who
engage with children but also for engaging anyone else.

When Vicki talked about kids’ (human’s) natural compulsion
toward independence, freedom … autonomy and their desire to be
“left” to do their thing and even show you that they can be
independent and do good things — which every great parent
wants.