Yeah, but is getting enough exposure to sunlight to cause your skin to change a shade of color too much exposure?

The safe level of exposure is something we could calculate, but no one ever bothers. The safe level of exposure is some fine line between your hydration level (to keep skin from burning), how many anti-oxidants are in your system (particularly beta carotene) to repair damage, and how much subcutaneous fat you have protecting you, and the amount of salt and moisture there is in the air around you.

The Heartland institute are the same bastards that tried to tell us tobacco wasn't that bad and are now trying to tell us all our activities can't affect the atmosphere. If they lied about 2nd hand smoke, do you think they care about the air of the Earth? Maybe they are just pro-smoking to the extreme. To them if it smokes it's good, except pot. They don't care if you get a lungful of car exhaust or tobacco smoke, but God forbid you smoke that hippy demon weed.

That's a vicious lie. We're genetically programmed to prefer "healthy" looks, which include color in the face and skin. Tanned skin is one visual indicator of a diet rich in anti-oxidants, which is something we're biologically programmed to prefer. You can test that with small children who haven't let their taught fear of cancer overcome their instincts to prefer symmetry and signs of good health and nutrition. Infants prefer to look at a tanned symmetric face.

Incidentally, the problem with tanning is the same type of problem with ANY process the body can use to break down cortisol in your system. If you don't realize all the process is doing is encouraging your body to flush blood to the skin, process some anti-oxidants into vitamins, reset your circadian rhythms, breaking down cortisol, and provoke a dopamine response for, then it's easy to get addicted. Same goes for exercise, gluttony, rage/violence, drugs, and anything else we use to self regulate our cortisol and dopamine without actually BEING healthy.

My wife used to frequently use tanning beds and lay out in the sun. In 2010 she discovered a strange looking mole on her leg. Went to the dermatologist and the mole turned out to be Stage 1 melanoma. Luckily, she caught it early and was able to have it removed.

The oncologist went in and cut out an inch around the spot of the mole to make sure it was all gone. So far, so good.

That's a vicious lie. We're genetically programmed to prefer "healthy" looks, which include color in the face and skin. Tanned skin is one visual indicator of a diet rich in anti-oxidants, which is something we're biologically programmed to prefer. You can test that with small children who haven't let their taught fear of cancer overcome their instincts to prefer symmetry and signs of good health and nutrition. Infants prefer to look at a tanned symmetric face.

That's a vicious lie. We're genetically programmed to prefer "healthy" looks, which include color in the face and skin. Tanned skin is one visual indicator of a diet rich in anti-oxidants, which is something we're biologically programmed to prefer. You can test that with small children who haven't let their taught fear of cancer overcome their instincts to prefer symmetry and signs of good health and nutrition. Infants prefer to look at a tanned symmetric face.

Counterpoint:

[endlesssuntanningsalon.com image 300x200]

You honestly believe the pale version is superior? I find when I look at the picture, my eyes are drawn left.

That's a vicious lie. We're genetically programmed to prefer "healthy" looks, which include color in the face and skin. Tanned skin is one visual indicator of a diet rich in anti-oxidants, which is something we're biologically programmed to prefer. You can test that with small children who haven't let their taught fear of cancer overcome their instincts to prefer symmetry and signs of good health and nutrition. Infants prefer to look at a tanned symmetric face.

Like anything else in moderation it's not that bad. Even Dermatologists tell you to get some sun, it helps some skin conditions. Of course don't cross into NJ orange and the road to the cancer turnpike.

That's a vicious lie. We're genetically programmed to prefer "healthy" looks, which include color in the face and skin. Tanned skin is one visual indicator of a diet rich in anti-oxidants, which is something we're biologically programmed to prefer. You can test that with small children who haven't let their taught fear of cancer overcome their instincts to prefer symmetry and signs of good health and nutrition. Infants prefer to look at a tanned symmetric face.

Tanning industry people seen consulting with the fossil fuel people about how to babble the best derpitude to lull the unwashed masses (i.e.: baggers and other slow-witted republicans) into believing that science is just crazy talk.

That's a vicious lie. We're genetically programmed to prefer "healthy" looks, which include color in the face and skin. Tanned skin is one visual indicator of a diet rich in anti-oxidants, which is something we're biologically programmed to prefer. You can test that with small children who haven't let their taught fear of cancer overcome their instincts to prefer symmetry and signs of good health and nutrition. Infants prefer to look at a tanned symmetric face.

Counterpoint:

[endlesssuntanningsalon.com image 300x200]

You honestly believe the pale version is superior? I find when I look at the picture, my eyes are drawn left.

Crap, I thought everyone would like the right one better.

Oh well, maybe it really is just a matter of taste after all.

But, keep in mind there's twice as much canvas on the left, so it's not a perfect black and white comparison

About 15 minutes of natural sunlight a day, depending on where you live. Now, I have naturally light olive skin and catch color incredibly quickly. I also live in a very sunny, hot climate, so those 15 minutes a day will have me nice and tawny by about April.

That's a vicious lie. We're genetically programmed to prefer "healthy" looks, which include color in the face and skin. Tanned skin is one visual indicator of a diet rich in anti-oxidants, which is something we're biologically programmed to prefer. You can test that with small children who haven't let their taught fear of cancer overcome their instincts to prefer symmetry and signs of good health and nutrition. Infants prefer to look at a tanned symmetric face.

Counterpoint:

[endlesssuntanningsalon.com image 300x200]

You honestly believe the pale version is superior? I find when I look at the picture, my eyes are drawn left.

That might be due to the design of the picture. The left side shows more and has a symbol on it.

Or it may have something to do with genetics. Perhaps those with ancestry closer to the equator prefer darker skin, and those closer to the poles prefer lighter. I don't know; it's just per speculation.

gameshowhost:Luckily, you can get that look without having to deal with the sun

In my opinion, that says all you need to know about him. He directly attacked an internal problem (poor diet, busy schedule leading to lack of sun exposure, poor circulation in the skin) with essentially a paint job to LOOK as though he had addressed it. In my mind, that's a huge warning flag that he can't distinguish between symptoms and easily fixable problems. It also indicates he's not really all that healthy in general, and needs to cover it up. Someone who is unhealthy with a poor diet, especially one that refuses to admit it and tries to cover it up, is someone who isn't going to understand the links between their own aggressive behavior and their health. I don't want that person in charge of my country, and I'm extremely conservative.

mgshamster:Or it may have something to do with genetics. Perhaps those with ancestry closer to the equator prefer darker skin, and those closer to the poles prefer lighter. I don't know; it's just per speculation.

Actually, for me, it's how rich and full her lips are on the left. I associate the pale pinkness on her cheeks and the pale pinkess on her lips with potential warning signs of a respiratory infection.

Also, it's easier to pick out the definition in her cheek bones with the shading from either make up or her tan on the left. Granted, she could do the same thing with makeup on the right in lighter colors to create those shadows, but it's easier to pick out the lines on the tan side.

I used to run cross country. So we're outside, in the sun, for multiple hours a day. Even if you wore sunscreen (which I did) you got tan as heck. And there were *still* girls on our team who went tanning regularly, which pissed off our coach to no end. I still can't fathom, in the slightest, how orange skin is attractive. I just can't.

I got the folks who went before homecoming or prom to even out the farmer's tans we all inevitably had, I get people who tan in the winter as a SAD treatment (don't know if it's effective but I can understand their logic at least) but past that....

Mr Guy:mgshamster: Or it may have something to do with genetics. Perhaps those with ancestry closer to the equator prefer darker skin, and those closer to the poles prefer lighter. I don't know; it's just per speculation.

Actually, for me, it's how rich and full her lips are on the left. I associate the pale pinkness on her cheeks and the pale pinkess on her lips with potential warning signs of a respiratory infection.

So if she used different lipstick and blush, your opinion might change?

Mr Guy:Also, it's easier to pick out the definition in her cheek bones with the shading from either make up or her tan on the left. Granted, she could do the same thing with makeup on the right in lighter colors to create those shadows, but it's easier to pick out the lines on the tan side.

I can see that. Her features definitely look more defined on the left.

StreetlightInTheGhetto:I got the folks who went before homecoming or prom to even out the farmer's tans we all inevitably had, I get people who tan in the winter as a SAD treatment (don't know if it's effective but I can understand their logic at least) but past that....

It's also great for rebalancing the fluids in your skin. Lots of people, particularly when dieting, lose a lot of circulation in their skin as their body tries to compensate by dialing down the metabolism. Causing what's essentially wide spread low level of injury to the entire skin causes the body to reopen all those capillaries it closed off and force blood through them. That has all kinds of positive effects. The tanning bed is just a way of getting a control blast of midday sun in a private setting. It's the people who get addicted because they don't burn off cortisol or keep their metabolism going faster through their daily activities or exercise that don't realize they are essential using the tanning bed to chase dopamine just like any other addict that have problems.