Arnold started young but most people wait until they are a little older to start test. If you do make sure you have all the info you need to restore your hpta when you are off cycle, you don't want to mess up your hpta as young as you are.

I've found some but I don't know if they're real and not just fake reviews from the people who own the website

this is true. if it were me I'd stick around here and become a part of the forum, learn, read, ask questions. Trusted people get help. Nobody is going to share their trusted and legit source with the new guy no offense brother. if they do you should be asking yourself hmmm why was that so easy. most of those sites are get rich quick schemes. completely fake shit or just straight up scammers. They only need you to send them money 1 time.

this is true. if it were me I'd stick around here and become a part of the forum, learn, read, ask questions. Trusted people get help. Nobody is going to share their trusted and legit source with the new guy no offense brother. if they do you should be asking yourself hmmm why was that so easy. most of those sites are get rich quick schemes. completely fake shit or just straight up scammers. They only need you to send them money 1 time.

Ya I understand 100% I'm not asking for your source. All I want is some decent pills it doesn't need to be hardcore stuff. I read all of this forum and learned a lot mainly don't trust websites but do any of you guys know a website that you trust for just pills?

Ya I understand 100% I'm not asking for your source. All I want is some decent pills it doesn't need to be hardcore stuff. I read all of this forum and learned a lot mainly don't trust websites but do any of you guys know a website that you trust for just pills?

Iv'e actually heard really good gains reviews on this believe it or not.

I have used a hand full of sites international and domestic i always find active vets and troll there logs.
The worst is running a cycle and loving it to get bloodwork and find the test is underdosed.
Once u find that lab and the lab stays consistant the best thing to do is not venture out until needed.

I have used a hand full of sites international and domestic i always find active vets and troll there logs.
The worst is running a cycle and loving it to get bloodwork and find the test is underdosed.
Once u find that lab and the lab stays consistant the best thing to do is not venture out until needed.

Test being underdosed is pretty rare if your source is worth 2 shits. Plus the fact that it's pretty easy to feel it. Sex drive should be high, strength, aggression should be up, skin should be oily. Lol. Kinda simple I know but true.

Test isn't really something you have to worry about IMO. Too cheap to fake. Now shit like primo and anavar... Almost always fake.

Test being underdosed is pretty rare if your source is worth 2 shits. Plus the fact that it's pretty easy to feel it. Sex drive should be high, strength, aggression should be up, skin should be oily. Lol. Kinda simple I know but true.

Test isn't really something you have to worry about IMO. Too cheap to fake. Now shit like primo and anavar... Almost always fake.

Im starting to wonder if its my receptors or some other science fact.i got a hand full of test e 250 me and my bro ran them same order at 500 mg each we got bloods around the same time same dose times he came back at 4300 ng
I came back at 2200 ng.i was certain i got the bunk vial but who knows and it was a top natch ugl.

Im starting to wonder if its my receptors or some other science fact.i got a hand full of test e 250 me and my bro ran them same order at 500 mg each we got bloods around the same time same dose times he came back at 4300 ng
I came back at 2200 ng.i was certain i got the bunk vial but who knows and it was a top natch ugl.

I'm not 100% on this but it may be that your shbg levels are too high. Basically attaches itself to testosterone and makes it useless for our purposes. Lower shbg with Masteron or proviron and you should have more free test levels.

I'm not 100% on this but it may be that your shbg levels are too high. Basically attaches itself to testosterone and makes it useless for our purposes. Lower shbg with Masteron or proviron and you should have more free test levels.

My last cycle was 900 mg test e, master e 800 mg, tren e 700mg and came back 2500ng but i felt lile a beast.i was pinning m,w,f,s and it was 300 mg a cc.i gained 25 poumds and my estro was like 190
I was using aromasin at 25 mg ed

My last cycle was 900 mg test e, master e 800 mg, tren e 700mg and came back 2500ng but i felt lile a beast.i was pinning m,w,f,s and it was 300 mg a cc.i gained 25 poumds and my estro was like 190
I was using aromasin at 25 mg ed

So what the hell you complaining about receptors? Fuck receptors if you gained 25lbs

I'll disagree with the 'most websites are scammers' line.
I've found more scammers to be email based when it comes to internet. It's unlikely someone is going to put the work into a legit website just to run a quick scam, it's not unheard of but it's also not that common. The best way to circumvent that is to do your research before you order from anywhere. All you have to do is google "website.com" and "legit" or "review" and you should find what you're looking for. If nothing comes up, be leery, move on or be a guinea pig.

I'm not 100% on this but it may be that your shbg levels are too high. Basically attaches itself to testosterone and makes it useless for our purposes. Lower shbg with Masteron or proviron and you should have more free test levels.

Generally SHBG affects the free testosterone more than the total.
Really when it comes down to it, your total test levels don't mean shit. They're a good indicator of whether or not you got real gear but that's about all. It's how your body uses it that matters, next time be sure to get your Free (bio available) Test levels. For all you know your free levels could have been twice that of your brothers, which would make you the better responder.
I'm playing devils advocate here, hard to know what happened but the chances of you getting a differently dosed vial from the same batch is almost 0.

IDK man. These days designing an ecommerce based website takes about an hour. It's hassle free with minimal interaction to the buyer. You can drop a site and design a new one with a template and $20-$100 for a domain name. If I was going to hustle a buch of kids still living with their mom it would be that method. Use a clean toshiba pc, fake email, fake name, proxy, and use a public access WiFi source. Run the site for a month or so. Drop it and design a new "site". It's lowkey. I'm not defending one or the other I think they are both sketch as fuck. That's why I just eat wheaties, soy milk, and order pure fresh breast milk from Ronnie Colemans chestsicles.

Generally SHBG affects the free testosterone more than the total.
Really when it comes down to it, your total test levels don't mean shit. They're a good indicator of whether or not you got real gear but that's about all. It's how your body uses it that matters, next time be sure to get your Free (bio available) Test levels. For all you know your free levels could have been twice that of your brothers, which would make you the better responder.
I'm playing devils advocate here, hard to know what happened but the chances of you getting a differently dosed vial from the same batch is almost 0.

I think you meant to quote the dude that had poor test results compared to his boy.

I'll disagree with the 'most websites are scammers' line.
I've found more scammers to be email based when it comes to internet. It's unlikely someone is going to put the work into a legit website just to run a quick scam, it's not unheard of but it's also not that common. The best way to circumvent that is to do your research before you order from anywhere. All you have to do is google "website.com" and "legit" or "review" and you should find what you're looking for. If nothing comes up, be leery, move on or be a guinea pig.

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IDK man. These days designing an ecommerce based website takes about an hour. It's hassle free with minimal interaction to the buyer. You can drop a site and design a new one with a template and $20-$100 for a domain name. If I was going to hustle a buch of kids still living with their mom it would be that method. Use a clean toshiba pc, fake email, fake name, proxy, and use a public access WiFi source. Run the site for a month or so. Drop it and design a new "site". It's lowkey. I'm not defending one or the other I think they are both sketch as fuck. That's why I just eat wheaties, soy milk, and order pure fresh breast milk from Ronnie Colemans chestsicles.

both good points. it really comes down to feedback and reviews. just be careful where those reviews come from. obviously if a forum is sponsored by a particular source the mods and admins have incentive to give fake reviews for kick backs and free shit. very easy for a source to pay off bs reviews or pay 20-30 people to post "amazing results". suddenly a million people order a bunch of gear and by the time people figure out its crap the source has make ton of money and can easily disappear.

When it comes to ordering gear; it's pretty much trial & error. You either never receive your order or it's junk. Since I've been burned (more than once) I thought I'd do for others what I wish someone had done for me

Generally SHBG affects the free testosterone more than the total.
Really when it comes down to it, your total test levels don't mean shit. They're a good indicator of whether or not you got real gear but that's about all. It's how your body uses it that matters, next time be sure to get your Free (bio available) Test levels. For all you know your free levels could have been twice that of your brothers, which would make you the better responder.
I'm playing devils advocate here, hard to know what happened but the chances of you getting a differently dosed vial from the same batch is almost 0.

I do have a question though, does anyone have any advice on how I make connects at the local gym? I see some big dudes but not sure how to approach? Trying not to be a big d-bag and potentially get jumped in the parking lot for being a tool.... I'm also like the one white guy at my gym so they probably automatically assume I'm the law lol

I do have a question though, does anyone have any advice on how I make connects at the local gym? I see some big dudes but not sure how to approach? Trying not to be a big d-bag and potentially get jumped in the parking lot for being a tool.... I'm also like the one white guy at my gym so they probably automatically assume I'm the law lol

a lot has changed since this thread was created. lot of legit gear sites now.

dont get gear from gym.

browse this site from your browser instead of tapatalk and you will see some banners at the top. they are good to go.