That is a much better price yes. Sadly you had to pre-order though, and I was not at all impressed by any of the pre-hype vids before launch. There was plenty of room for them to screw the game up but as it turned out, it is a worthy sequel, but pre-order price point is gone as well as the perks.

Eh? TL2 is decent for 20 bucks, BL2 is a AAA title and it shows in every facet of the game, easily worth 60, and this is coming from someone who's playing it solo even though every review and their mothers call it a "co op game"

lol this whole 'f2p' thing is becoming painful to watch. It's like they figured out they can make MORE than the regular price of a game ($50-$60) and watching them trip over their own tongues to justify it just hurts.

Sell your fucking game for $20 if you really want to attract people, or just charge a regular price and take the risk(the risk that your game is actually worth playing and paying for...). OR JUST FUCK OFF ALREADY!

space captain wrote on Sep 19, 2012, 23:45:as far as im concerned, go ahead and start WW3 - id rather you boneheaded fuckjobs kill yourselves off as soon as possible, so go at it.. shut your pussy mouths and fucking do it already, chickenshits

The funny thing I've noticed in all this is that Atheists are right there fanning the flames(with everyone else) and only Christians are getting blamed. You never hear about these nutjobs talking about atheists...unless they are just generalizing all of North America.

So maybe you should clarify who all is in the "boneheaded fuckjob" category...

Pretty sure atheists have killed more people than anything or anyone else, ever. Not meteors, not volcanoes, not floods, not even God if he exists is on top of that scoreboard.

Care to elaborate on that statement or would you like to troll some more? Can you name one atheist who killed in the name of Atheism? Because thats what is being argued, not a person's personal beliefs but the ideology that is behind that belief (or nonbelief if you like).

This is why all forced ideologies are dangerous, but belief driven ones are more so (religions) simply because they are not limited to the views of individuals. Stalin's version of Communism is dangerous enough but at least it ended with his death. AlQaeda's version of radical Islam didnt exactly die off with Osama's death. Can you see the difference?

Doesn't matter if it was in the name of atheism. Stalin was brought up religious, then at some point rejected it(sound familiar?), after that everything he did he did for himself. Hence...Atheism. You can stick your head in the sand and ignore this, but histories biggest killers were all their own gods.

With great power comes great responsibility. While they might be better off acting like robots, I'm glad they don't. Robots would kill every last one of you without thinking if their masters ordered it.

Call it "operating like robots" if you like; people join the military with the understanding that you are going to be expected to follow orders. The soldier is allowed and in fact obligated to think for themselves if the orders are egregious (hence the "just following orders" defense did not work at Nuremberg), but there is a good reason for the secrecy mandate which should be self-evident and is not such an instance.

Well it is hard to say if he's right or not, but the whole OBL event does have a certain stink to it.

Anyway, I am a little surprised to see the special forces guys being so nonchalant about breaking their secrecy mandate - the Seals I worked with in the USN were majorly professional and by-the-book.

With great power comes great responsibility. While they might be better off acting like robots, I'm glad they don't. Robots would kill every last one of you without thinking if their masters ordered it.

RailWizard wrote on Sep 20, 2012, 01:01:Pretty sure atheists have killed more people than anything or anyone else, ever. Not meteors, not volcanoes, not floods, not even God if he exists is on top of that scoreboard.

Yeah that's not a nutjob thing to say.

lol you care to refute? Go ahead.

Dude atheists have killed like infinity people.

I guess not. lol Oh well I can still play. It doesn't take a math wizard to look at the numbers of certain communist leaders and realize the sheer fucking enormity of them. Then to also keep in mind the total population of the earth over the course of time. Check and mate.

RailWizard wrote on Sep 20, 2012, 01:01:Pretty sure atheists have killed more people than anything or anyone else, ever. Not meteors, not volcanoes, not floods, not even God if he exists is on top of that scoreboard.

Yeah that's not a nutjob thing to say.

lol you care to refute? Go ahead.

Dude atheists have killed like infinity people.

I guess not. lol Oh well I can still play. It doesn't take a math wizard to look at the numbers of certain communist leaders and realize the sheer fucking enormity of them. Then to also keep in mind the total population of the earth over the course of time. Check and mate.

RailWizard wrote on Sep 20, 2012, 01:01:Pretty sure atheists have killed more people than anything or anyone else, ever. Not meteors, not volcanoes, not floods, not even God if he exists is on top of that scoreboard.

space captain wrote on Sep 19, 2012, 23:45:as far as im concerned, go ahead and start WW3 - id rather you boneheaded fuckjobs kill yourselves off as soon as possible, so go at it.. shut your pussy mouths and fucking do it already, chickenshits

The funny thing I've noticed in all this is that Atheists are right there fanning the flames(with everyone else) and only Christians are getting blamed. You never hear about these nutjobs talking about atheists...unless they are just generalizing all of North America.

So maybe you should clarify who all is in the "boneheaded fuckjob" category...

Pretty sure atheists have killed more people than anything or anyone else, ever. Not meteors, not volcanoes, not floods, not even God if he exists is on top of that scoreboard.