If you want amazing light output, get some HIDS and some projectors. It's pretty fcking amazing riding at night with it. I've never rode with stock headlights and stock bulbs at night before, but I did have some FX-R projectors and 6000k hids before I sold them and they were so good at nighttime.

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Originally Posted by RC51

Then you need worse brakes, not better ones. I suggest adding some air to your lines and spraying your pads with wd-40 before you go out. You'll find all kinds of corner speed.

Even with crap lights, other drivers can see you. Problem is, when you have a HID pointed directly at their face, all they can see is your headlight; meaning they can't see the road. That's dangerous for everyone.

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Even with crap lights, other drivers can see you. Problem is, when you have a HID pointed directly at their face, all they can see is your headlight; meaning they can't see the road. That's dangerous for everyone.

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agreed, having too much light and causing glare isnt the proper solution to being visible on the street.

The HID kits are NOT designed to work with the stock reflective systems. It creates a light beam distribution that commonly blinds oncoming drivers.

The only HID system that is truly safe and consistent would be a projector, like from the retro fit source, but even then you have to do a lot of custom fitting.

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Not trying to flame, I agree with some points. But on the contrary, you said cheap hid kits suck (to the best of my knowledge the retrofit source does not sell Phillips hids with a majority of their equipment, so yes they themselves use "cheap" kid kits).

To clarify (and yes I have bought from them before, to retrofit a friends BMW e46). It is smart to have some sort of cut off in place when using hids, I can say that once my oem Phillips hids burnt out in my truck, I replaced them with the $45 55w set from eBay with zero problems and an extremely similar light output (I have now been using them every day for 3 years, I changed the bulbs to 5000k a year ago because I wanted a more "oem" look).

None the less OP you will read mixed reviews, please don't slap hids in anything without some sort of cut off (I honestly don't personally care if they're in a second gen or halogen projector assembly, it's really not that blinding to me). But it's a large piss off on the road when people have hids in a regular reflector-bowl assembly, and you can see them a mile away. It's also ticket-able up here in Canada-land... But make your own judgement, and like others had said read the pros and cons beforehand.