I can assure you that both climbers are experienced and safe, and they both excel at climbing in the "real world". This incident is hardly different from John Long's gym incident where he forgot to finish tying his knot. The community seemed to be much more sympathetic on that thread and that is where I found this post by Curt.

curt wrote:

Gmburns2000 wrote:

Best to him on his recovery.

Unfortunately, it can happen to anyone.

rgold has posted on this topic several times and it bears repeating. If you climb long enough, you will make some careless mistakes. The ONLY difference is that some of us manage to get away with these mistakes while others do not. If you do not fully embrace this concept, you are probably an excellent candidate to get your very own thread in this forum.

Curt

Instead of using this as a chance to put down two young, bright climbers who can't defend them selves right now, why don't you use this as a reminder to double check all of you systems, not to take your routines for granted, and to consider yourself lucky every time you catch one of your own mistakes before it gets you hurt of killed.

I can assure you that both climbers are experienced and safe, and they both excel at climbing in the "real world". This incident is hardly different from John Long's gym incident where he forgot to finish tying his knot. The community seemed to be much more sympathetic on that thread and that is where I found this post by Curt.

curt wrote:

Gmburns2000 wrote:

Best to him on his recovery.

Unfortunately, it can happen to anyone.

rgold has posted on this topic several times and it bears repeating. If you climb long enough, you will make some careless mistakes. The ONLY difference is that some of us manage to get away with these mistakes while others do not. If you do not fully embrace this concept, you are probably an excellent candidate to get your very own thread in this forum.

Curt

Instead of using this as a chance to put down two young, bright climbers who can't defend them selves right now, why don't you use this as a reminder to double check all of you systems, not to take your routines for granted, and to consider yourself lucky every time you catch one of your own mistakes before it gets you hurt of killed.

Will

Clearly they weren't safe; let's hope they are now and yes, use this as a reminder to check your shit.