Fang Shen Do III : "the way of survival"

lately, we have been visited by LadyPhoenix who really babbled for nothing, and have declared that she will lurk but not post.

which is not a bad idea, since reading her posts was a headache. No offense LP. Please be concise should you choose to contribute to the ongoing discussion.

Intelligent discussion with current fangers have been lacking (i'm an EX fanger, despite of being accused of being a sock puppet. A bullshido member is in the process of vouching for me wink wink), and i encourage lurkers to join the forum and discuss.

I personally have trained in FSD x 2 years. I used to be very pro FSD, which changed as i matured as a MA practionner, read books, and basically began to think outside of the box.

I have no problem with ppl who still train/like FSD. There is a reason why i liked it for 2 years.

At the end of the day the closest translation that fits the definition supplied by the founder of FSD, even still mixing the Chinese and Japanese would be "Fang Do" which would then translate as "The way to defend or protect". Or Fang Cun Do

The mixing of the two potentially Chinese characters with the Japanese "Do" for way is fairly common among those that wish to be associated with the late Bruce Lee and his JKD.

Assuming you have the right characters, the second character is not pronounced "cun". "Shen" is not too bad of a transliteration, though "tsyuen" is probably closer phonetically. (BTW, it's not pronounced "cun" in mandarin either unless you meant the soft "c" sound.)

"Do" (long "o") is a common transliteration from Cantonese of the Chinese ideogram which means "the way". You are completely incorrect regarding this (or JKD) being a Chinese/Japanese combination.

Edit: same thing for "Wing Chun Do", fanger123.

Last edited by Tom Kagan; 4/09/2007 1:24pm at .

Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

"Your calm and professional manner of response is really draining all the fun out of this. Can you reply more like Dr. Fagbot or something? Call me some names, mention some sand in my vagina or something of the sort. You can't expect me to come up with reasonable arguments man!" -- MaverickZ

You are completely incorrect regarding this (or JKD) being a Chinese/Japanese combination.

Hi Tom,

Have you seen the Characters used by the Fang Shen Do crowd? Is it even possible to construct the phrase Fang Shen Do and still be grammatically correct? I have been told by a native Chinese speaker that it is not possible.

Though no one has ever been able to show me which characters the owners of FSD use, I have been told by high ranking members of the style that the characters mix Japanese and Chinese. I have yet to see some corroboration of this - nor do I have access to even a copy of the characters they chose.

My character choices for this thread and pronunciations were based on the computer program and a friend who speaks Chinese - so are in no way indicative of the original characters, just a best guess.

fanger123, can I suggest that you edit in to your post links to all the previous threads and as many relevant videos / other posted information as you can find? If anyone new shows up, we want them to be able to review all previous discussion.

The choice of "Fang Shen Do" as the name of the style is simply a reflection of the ad-hoc, potluck approach to martial arts these people have pursued for years. Just grab anything that you think looks cool and run with it without concen for context, base, or qualification.