On 07/15/2015 08:16 AM, Amit Shah wrote:
> While organising the recent FUDCon in Pune we included a code of
> conduct, similar to the previous Flocks and other conferences worldwide.
> I was wondering if we have any mechanisms in place...
Code of Conduct enforcement is documented here,
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_working_group/CoC_Enforcement
where ultimately enforcement (and possible sanction) is the
responsibility of the fedora council (board).

I think that's the general CoC - there is a separate one that applies to
confernces I think, isn't there? There was one in last year's Flock
brochure and Amit said there was one in the FUDCon Pune materials too.
Amit, where did the FUDCon Pune planners get the CoC text? Was it the
standard Fedora CoC text or something different?
~m

Amit, where did the FUDCon Pune planners get the CoC text? Was it
the
standard Fedora CoC text or something different?

I had asked for it on the Ambassadors list and was pointed to the
FlockCoC, which is what we used with some minor modifications to point
out regulations applicable to the venue (no non-vegetarian food, no
smoking, etc.)
Siddhesh
--
http://siddhesh.in

On 07/15/2015 09:31 AM, Rex Dieter wrote:
> On 07/15/2015 08:16 AM, Amit Shah wrote:
>> While organising the recent FUDCon in Pune we included a code of
>> conduct, similar to the previous Flocks and other conferences
worldwide.
>> I was wondering if we have any mechanisms in place...
>
> Code of Conduct enforcement is documented here,
>
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_working_group/CoC_Enforcement
>
> where ultimately enforcement (and possible sanction) is the
> responsibility of the fedora council (board).
I think that's the general CoC - there is a separate one that applies
to
confernces I think, isn't there? There was one in last year's Flock
brochure and Amit said there was one in the FUDCon Pune materials too.

Ah okay, in this context your question makes a lot more sense bc of this
text:
"Attendees who are in violation of this policy may be subject to removal
and banning from FUDCon (and future Fedora events)."
I would say though we should probably resort to banning only in really
extreme situations, hope it doesn't ever actually happen, but if it
needs to allow the council to determine the steps involved when it happens.
~m

I would say though we should probably resort to banning only in
really
extreme situations, hope it doesn't ever actually happen, but if it needs to
allow the council to determine the steps involved when it happens.

Agreed 100%, all we need is a guideline on what to do if things get
completely out of hand. For more context, we actually had a violation
at the Pune FUDCon that was settled mutually (the offending individual
unconditionally apologized for their behaviour), but it got us
thinking what we could have done if there was no settlement.
Siddhesh
--
http://siddhesh.in

On 07/15/2015 09:43 AM, Amit Shah wrote:
>Yes, at
>
>http://fudcon.in/code-of-conduct.html
Ah okay, in this context your question makes a lot more sense bc of this
text:
"Attendees who are in violation of this policy may be subject to removal and
banning from FUDCon (and future Fedora events)."
I would say though we should probably resort to banning only in really
extreme situations, hope it doesn't ever actually happen, but if it needs to
allow the council to determine the steps involved when it happens.

Right - so we how about we change this text in our standard CoC, then
-- since we don't currently have a way of tracking CoC violations, as
well as banning is undesirable.
A note mentioning violations can be reported to the council, for
further action if necessary, should be enough then.
Thanks all who chimed in.
Amit
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http://log.amitshah.net/

On (Wed) 15 Jul 2015 [11:47:21], Máirín Duffy wrote:
>
> On 07/15/2015 09:43 AM, Amit Shah wrote:
>> Yes, at
>>
>> http://fudcon.in/code-of-conduct.html
> Ah okay, in this context your question makes a lot more sense bc of this
> text:
>
> "Attendees who are in violation of this policy may be subject to removal and
> banning from FUDCon (and future Fedora events)."
>
> I would say though we should probably resort to banning only in really
> extreme situations, hope it doesn't ever actually happen, but if it needs to
> allow the council to determine the steps involved when it happens.
Right - so we how about we change this text in our standard CoC, then
-- since we don't currently have a way of tracking CoC violations, as
well as banning is undesirable.
A note mentioning violations can be reported to the council, for
further action if necessary, should be enough then.
Thanks all who chimed in.
Amit

Would one of you please file a ticket with the Council to sort this out
officially? I really think this should be a little less ad hoc.
I also don't like "threats" which is how I read a "ban from all future
events" which I consider a "threat" if it is not enforceable. As in, if
we believe that is the right answer to the situation (which I severely
hope it never is) we should have a SOP (procedure) for it in place,
which changes it from a "threat" to just the way things operate.
Langdon