skullkrusher:CPennypacker: lennavan: It isnt often but I gotta disagree with Maddow on this one. Yeah, actually I do want a cold emotionless president making decisions, not someone who is going to make a stupid decision because he's following his/her emotions.

What's more, no, this story does not have legs. It actually sounded like a pretty reasonable thing to do, I'd venture the dog did not fit in the car and the family wanted to bring it with. It wasn't a cold calculated crisis management, he hosed the dog off. It's not like he just kept driving. Lots of reasons to attack Romney, this isn't one.

He hosed the dog off then he put him back in the crate and kept driving. He was wrong and so are you.

never been a fan of dogs and don't know much about them. If we're not upset about him putting the dog in the crate in the first place, why are we upset about him putting the dog back in the crate after cleaning him off?

Well, his argument was that the dog loved to go up there. So when the dog shiats itself in terror shouldn't that be a clue that maybe he doesn't like it so much?

CPennypacker:skullkrusher: CPennypacker: lennavan: It isnt often but I gotta disagree with Maddow on this one. Yeah, actually I do want a cold emotionless president making decisions, not someone who is going to make a stupid decision because he's following his/her emotions.

What's more, no, this story does not have legs. It actually sounded like a pretty reasonable thing to do, I'd venture the dog did not fit in the car and the family wanted to bring it with. It wasn't a cold calculated crisis management, he hosed the dog off. It's not like he just kept driving. Lots of reasons to attack Romney, this isn't one.

He hosed the dog off then he put him back in the crate and kept driving. He was wrong and so are you.

never been a fan of dogs and don't know much about them. If we're not upset about him putting the dog in the crate in the first place, why are we upset about him putting the dog back in the crate after cleaning him off?

Well, his argument was that the dog loved to go up there. So when the dog shiats itself in terror shouldn't that be a clue that maybe he doesn't like it so much?

sometimes dogs shiat themselves because they have to shiat, no? Who says it "shiat itself in terror"? Dr Rachel?

skullkrusher:CPennypacker: skullkrusher: CPennypacker: lennavan: It isnt often but I gotta disagree with Maddow on this one. Yeah, actually I do want a cold emotionless president making decisions, not someone who is going to make a stupid decision because he's following his/her emotions.

What's more, no, this story does not have legs. It actually sounded like a pretty reasonable thing to do, I'd venture the dog did not fit in the car and the family wanted to bring it with. It wasn't a cold calculated crisis management, he hosed the dog off. It's not like he just kept driving. Lots of reasons to attack Romney, this isn't one.

He hosed the dog off then he put him back in the crate and kept driving. He was wrong and so are you.

never been a fan of dogs and don't know much about them. If we're not upset about him putting the dog in the crate in the first place, why are we upset about him putting the dog back in the crate after cleaning him off?

Well, his argument was that the dog loved to go up there. So when the dog shiats itself in terror shouldn't that be a clue that maybe he doesn't like it so much?

sometimes dogs shiat themselves because they have to shiat, no? Who says it "shiat itself in terror"? Dr Rachel?

OK, maybe it shiat itself because it was sick. Shouldn't he take it down if its sick?

lennavan:It isnt often but I gotta disagree with Maddow on this one. Yeah, actually I do want a cold emotionless president making decisions, not someone who is going to make a stupid decision because he's following his/her emotions.

A stupid decision like torturing a dog just because his kids wanted to bring it with, even though it was impractical?

skullkrusher:never been a fan of dogs and don't know much about them. If we're not upset about him putting the dog in the crate in the first place, why are we upset about him putting the dog back in the crate after cleaning him off?

skullkrusher:CPennypacker: skullkrusher: CPennypacker: lennavan: It isnt often but I gotta disagree with Maddow on this one. Yeah, actually I do want a cold emotionless president making decisions, not someone who is going to make a stupid decision because he's following his/her emotions.

What's more, no, this story does not have legs. It actually sounded like a pretty reasonable thing to do, I'd venture the dog did not fit in the car and the family wanted to bring it with. It wasn't a cold calculated crisis management, he hosed the dog off. It's not like he just kept driving. Lots of reasons to attack Romney, this isn't one.

He hosed the dog off then he put him back in the crate and kept driving. He was wrong and so are you.

never been a fan of dogs and don't know much about them. If we're not upset about him putting the dog in the crate in the first place, why are we upset about him putting the dog back in the crate after cleaning him off?

Well, his argument was that the dog loved to go up there. So when the dog shiats itself in terror shouldn't that be a clue that maybe he doesn't like it so much?

sometimes dogs shiat themselves because they have to shiat, no? Who says it "shiat itself in terror"? Dr Rachel?

Well, it should be pointed out that Rachel Maddow does indeed hold a Doctorate granted by Oxford. She's not a medical doctor by any stretch, but Dr. Maddow is a lot smarter than most of us. (And most, if not all, of the jokers hoping for the Republican nomination.)

gimmegimme:Well, it should be pointed out that Rachel Maddow does indeed hold a Doctorate granted by Oxford. She's not a medical doctor by any stretch, but Dr. Maddow is a lot smarter than most of us. (And most, if not all, of the jokers hoping for the Republican nomination.)

gimmegimme:skullkrusher: CPennypacker: OK, maybe it shiat itself because it was sick. Shouldn't he take it down if its sick?

Or maybe it shat itself because Romney would make a bad President so that's why he put it back on the roof?

So can you clarify? Do you feel Romnito did the wrong thing in putting the dog in a crate attached to the roof of the car?

It sounds kinda weird to me to be honest but I don't know if this is a common thing. He built a windshield apparently. I know dogs like to stick their heads out the window... I dunno. However, I've accepted the fact that it is kosher for the sake of argument and am now wondering why putting the dog back on the roof was a bad thing.

CPennypacker:skullkrusher: CPennypacker: skullkrusher: CPennypacker: OK, maybe it shiat itself because it was sick. Shouldn't he take it down if its sick?

Or maybe it shat itself because Romney would make a bad President so that's why he put it back on the roof?

Do you have disassociative identity disorder or something?

why? because I find your attempts to find reasons why the dog shat itself aside from "dogs sometimes takes shiats" to be amusing?

No because your posts seem like 5 people have access to your login info

no, they really don't. Pretty consistent, actually. So, you have no reason to believe that the dog was sick or scared aside from the fact that you really really really really want to believe the dog was sick or scared?

After reading the recent Vanity Fair expose on Mitt, he seems like a really, really, really strange dude. Ned Flanders without the warmth and humanity. He is definitely not someone "I would want to have a beer with" (putting aside the fact that he doesn't drink).

skullkrusher:CPennypacker: skullkrusher: CPennypacker: skullkrusher: CPennypacker: OK, maybe it shiat itself because it was sick. Shouldn't he take it down if its sick?

Or maybe it shat itself because Romney would make a bad President so that's why he put it back on the roof?

Do you have disassociative identity disorder or something?

why? because I find your attempts to find reasons why the dog shat itself aside from "dogs sometimes takes shiats" to be amusing?

No because your posts seem like 5 people have access to your login info

no, they really don't. Pretty consistent, actually. So, you have no reason to believe that the dog was sick or scared aside from the fact that you really really really really want to believe the dog was sick or scared?

No reason to believe it was sick or scared except it shiat itself you mean? Should it have asked Romney to take it down? Would you then believe it was unhappy?

"It sounds kinda weird to me to be honest but I don't know if this is a common thing. He built a windshield apparently."

I know a couple who built a custom built cage on top of their motorcycle trailer so their two weenie dogs can travel with them. The dogs appear to love it. Haven't asked them, but they probably trained the dogs from puppies to be used to riding in this manner. For that reason, I probably wouldnt have done what Romney did as he apparently did not do this.

Saw another guy on TV (I think he was Nick Cage's brother) who trained his cat to ride in a windshield bag on his motorcycle as well (cat was secured with a leash so he couldnt jump out).

CPennypacker:skullkrusher: CPennypacker: skullkrusher: CPennypacker: skullkrusher: CPennypacker: OK, maybe it shiat itself because it was sick. Shouldn't he take it down if its sick?

Or maybe it shat itself because Romney would make a bad President so that's why he put it back on the roof?

Do you have disassociative identity disorder or something?

why? because I find your attempts to find reasons why the dog shat itself aside from "dogs sometimes takes shiats" to be amusing?

No because your posts seem like 5 people have access to your login info

no, they really don't. Pretty consistent, actually. So, you have no reason to believe that the dog was sick or scared aside from the fact that you really really really really want to believe the dog was sick or scared?

No reason to believe it was sick or scared except it shiat itself you mean? Should it have asked Romney to take it down? Would you then believe it was unhappy?

skullkrusher:CPennypacker: skullkrusher: CPennypacker: skullkrusher: CPennypacker: skullkrusher: CPennypacker: OK, maybe it shiat itself because it was sick. Shouldn't he take it down if its sick?

Or maybe it shat itself because Romney would make a bad President so that's why he put it back on the roof?

Do you have disassociative identity disorder or something?

why? because I find your attempts to find reasons why the dog shat itself aside from "dogs sometimes takes shiats" to be amusing?

No because your posts seem like 5 people have access to your login info

no, they really don't. Pretty consistent, actually. So, you have no reason to believe that the dog was sick or scared aside from the fact that you really really really really want to believe the dog was sick or scared?

No reason to believe it was sick or scared except it shiat itself you mean? Should it have asked Romney to take it down? Would you then believe it was unhappy?

CPennypacker:skullkrusher: CPennypacker: skullkrusher: CPennypacker: skullkrusher: CPennypacker: skullkrusher: CPennypacker: OK, maybe it shiat itself because it was sick. Shouldn't he take it down if its sick?

Or maybe it shat itself because Romney would make a bad President so that's why he put it back on the roof?

Do you have disassociative identity disorder or something?

why? because I find your attempts to find reasons why the dog shat itself aside from "dogs sometimes takes shiats" to be amusing?

No because your posts seem like 5 people have access to your login info

no, they really don't. Pretty consistent, actually. So, you have no reason to believe that the dog was sick or scared aside from the fact that you really really really really want to believe the dog was sick or scared?

No reason to believe it was sick or scared except it shiat itself you mean? Should it have asked Romney to take it down? Would you then believe it was unhappy?

and round and round we go

It's not my fault your argument is stupid and pointless.

it is your fault that you are accepting Maddow's assertion of "shiatting itself in terror" without questioning it at all.

as for the argument being pointless... mocking you slavish farkwits might not pay will, but it still entertaining. That's the point.

skullkrusher:CPennypacker: skullkrusher: CPennypacker: skullkrusher: CPennypacker: skullkrusher: CPennypacker: skullkrusher: CPennypacker: OK, maybe it shiat itself because it was sick. Shouldn't he take it down if its sick?

Or maybe it shat itself because Romney would make a bad President so that's why he put it back on the roof?

Do you have disassociative identity disorder or something?

why? because I find your attempts to find reasons why the dog shat itself aside from "dogs sometimes takes shiats" to be amusing?

No because your posts seem like 5 people have access to your login info

no, they really don't. Pretty consistent, actually. So, you have no reason to believe that the dog was sick or scared aside from the fact that you really really really really want to believe the dog was sick or scared?

No reason to believe it was sick or scared except it shiat itself you mean? Should it have asked Romney to take it down? Would you then believe it was unhappy?

and round and round we go

It's not my fault your argument is stupid and pointless.

it is your fault that you are accepting Maddow's assertion of "shiatting itself in terror" without questioning it at all.

as for the argument being pointless... mocking you slavish farkwits might not pay will, but it still entertaining. That's the point.

Why did the dog shiat itself then? Have you ever had a dog? Dogs don't just shiat themselves.

Maddow can say whatever she wants. I have two dogs. They don't just randomly shiat themselves.

You look like a regular idiot and the only one entertained by your mocking is you.

skullkrusher:gimmegimme: skullkrusher: cameroncrazy1984: If you're feeding them the right food, no dogs sometimes don't randomly take sh*ts. They're pretty regular.

how long was he on the roof for?

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How can you be so obtuse? Is it deliberate?

will you elabradorate? Of course you won't. This is your schtick.

It's being pointed out to you that your argument somehow manages to be ignorant and circular at the same time. It's impossible to engage you in real discussion (see yesterday's discussion about Mitt Romney la Meheecahnoh), so I am pointing out that you are willfully putting up psychological barriers that block information from reaching you.

Death_Poot:"It sounds kinda weird to me to be honest but I don't know if this is a common thing. He built a windshield apparently."

I know a couple who built a custom built cage on top of their motorcycle trailer so their two weenie dogs can travel with them. The dogs appear to love it. Haven't asked them, but they probably trained the dogs from puppies to be used to riding in this manner. For that reason, I probably wouldnt have done what Romney did as he apparently did not do this.

Saw another guy on TV (I think he was Nick Cage's brother) who trained his cat to ride in a windshield bag on his motorcycle as well (cat was secured with a leash so he couldnt jump out).

I can maybe abide it on a motorcyle, if the pet can see it's owner and is calmed by their presence. But to strap the pet on top of the car roof isolated and alone without a clue as to what is going on, as opposed to putting the inanimate luggage on the roof? Putting aside whether it's deliberately cruel, it strikes me as really really really weird.

This is a bit interesting about Romney's father (who's political career is probably what launched mittens to do the same):

George W. (coincidence?) RomneyRomney entered politics by participating in a state constitutional convention to rewrite the Michigan Constitution during 1961-1962. He was elected Governor of Michigan in 1962 and was re-elected by increasingly large margins in 1964 and 1966. Romney worked to overhaul the state's financial and revenue structure, culminating in Michigan's first state income tax, and greatly expanded the size of state government.

CPennypacker:Why did the dog shiat itself then? Have you ever had a dog? Dogs don't just shiat themselves.

Who says the dog spontaneously shat itself? Maybe it had been up there for 5 hours and had to take a shiat? Dogs shiat several times a day, no? No, I haven't had a dog since I was very little. As I said earlier, don't know much about them. Did the dog shiat itself again in terror when it was put on the roof the second time?

Remember folks, in Fark Independent mysterio world direct actions have direct consequences and people should be held accountable ... unless it involves a Republican. Maybe the dog strapped to the roof was shiatting itself out of terror or maybe it was shiatting itself out of joy that it's getting the fun ride that 99.999% of family pets would never get from their owners. It's all so vague and nebulous and ambiguous, so let's not judge.

skullkrusher:CPennypacker: Why did the dog shiat itself then? Have you ever had a dog? Dogs don't just shiat themselves.

Who says the dog spontaneously shat itself? Maybe it had been up there for 5 hours and had to take a shiat? Dogs shiat several times a day, no? No, I haven't had a dog since I was very little. As I said earlier, don't know much about them. Did the dog shiat itself again in terror when it was put on the roof the second time?

CPennypacker: Maddow can say whatever she wants.

sure she can. So can I.

CPennypacker: You look like a regular idiot and the only one entertained by your mocking is you.

yeah... I entertain myself by mocking you. Was my post unclear?

Dogs don't shiat in their crates. The dog would have to go so bad it was about to burst for it to shiat in its crate just because it had to shiat. Which is another problem.

Your post was pretty clear about you entertaining yourself. I was just pointing out that though you are entertaining yourself, everyone else here thinks you're a farkwit for it.

skullkrusher:CPennypacker: skullkrusher: CPennypacker: lennavan: It isnt often but I gotta disagree with Maddow on this one. Yeah, actually I do want a cold emotionless president making decisions, not someone who is going to make a stupid decision because he's following his/her emotions.

What's more, no, this story does not have legs. It actually sounded like a pretty reasonable thing to do, I'd venture the dog did not fit in the car and the family wanted to bring it with. It wasn't a cold calculated crisis management, he hosed the dog off. It's not like he just kept driving. Lots of reasons to attack Romney, this isn't one.

He hosed the dog off then he put him back in the crate and kept driving. He was wrong and so are you.

never been a fan of dogs and don't know much about them. If we're not upset about him putting the dog in the crate in the first place, why are we upset about him putting the dog back in the crate after cleaning him off?

Well, his argument was that the dog loved to go up there. So when the dog shiats itself in terror shouldn't that be a clue that maybe he doesn't like it so much?

sometimes dogs shiat themselves because they have to shiat, no? Who says it "shiat itself in terror"? Dr Rachel?

Since you admittedly know little about dogs, I'll clue you in.shiat from a terrified animal is going to be quite different in consistency than a dogs regular bowel movement. A scared, distressed dog is going to be vile and squirty. Anyone who has owned a dog is familiar with the toilet habits of their animals. So chances are, Romney was well aware of the dogs distressed state and simply didn't care. Also, dogs that are used to being kenneled, as he claims this one was, will not shiat or piss in their boxes unless its a dire emergency....

gimmegimme:It's being pointed out to you that your argument somehow manages to be ignorant and circular at the same time.

those are not mutually exclusive things. I know you tried to sound smart in that sentence, but you failed really really badly.

gimmegimme:It's impossible to engage you in real discussion (see yesterday's discussion about Mitt Romney la Meheecahnoh), so I am pointing out that you are willfully putting up psychological barriers that block information from reaching you.

it is not impossible at all. See, the issue is the barriers you hold up. You read something on the internet. It was critical of Romney and said by Maddow. Ergo, you cannot question it. What I am doing is asking why do we assume the dog shiat in terror? Was the dog up there for hours? Maybe it had to go to the bathroom? If the dog had been up there for hours, why did it take so long for it to shiat itself in terror? Did it shiat itself in terror again after being returned to the carrier?

Putting the dog up there in the first place sounds strange to me but TFA focuses on what Romney did after the pooptastrophe.

As for yesterday's discussion, it wasn't about Romney being a Mexican. Nice lie though.

Psylence:Since you admittedly know little about dogs, I'll clue you in.shiat from a terrified animal is going to be quite different in consistency than a dogs regular bowel movement. A scared, distressed dog is going to be vile and squirty. Anyone who has owned a dog is familiar with the toilet habits of their animals. So chances are, Romney was well aware of the dogs distressed state and simply didn't care. Also, dogs that are used to being kenneled, as he claims this one was, will not shiat or piss in their boxes unless its a dire emergency....

now see this is a clear and rational support for the assertion. Not so much to ask.