Found this deal on Calguns today and had to tell people about it. It's available to us here in California for a few dollars more because they have to make it compliant but everybody else only has to pay $1,345. The coupon code is SIG556DISCOUNT and it takes $150 off the price.

I've been waiting to pull the trigger on one of these and now it's a no brainer.

More "Bambi" comments, please, from the people who don't understand that the bullet that comes out of this thing is the same as the one that comes out of an old looking hunting rifle. Ohhhh, it's SCARY looking. No, it's modern.

The rifle of the day was the musket. There also existed pistols. With one, you were EXACTLY armed just like the military or ANY military on earth.

This gun? NOT SO. It is SEMI AUTO. Not FULL AUTO. Learn the difference. The Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting or self defense. It has to do with protecting liberty from a tyrannical government. If you've read ONE BOOK on the subject, you'd know.

This gun "looks mean" to people that dont know a THING about guns...i.e., YOU.

I can guarantee MOST hunting rifles are deadlier than this gun; military ammo is jacketed and expands nowhere near what a soft-tip unjacketed hollow-point bullet does from a "nice, friendly wooden-stock" hunting rifle.

More "Bambi" comments, please, from the people who don't understand that the bullet that comes out of this thing is the same as the one that comes out of an old looking hunting rifle. Ohhhh, it's SCARY looking. No, it's modern.

I hate California's silly laws. The $45 California (safe) mod is a joke. Funny what the state will allow to be sold in the state that is not a fixed magazine. No doubt, those days are numbered too. I have a mini-30, but would love to add this to my collection.

Kel-Tec, here I come.

P.S. Keep them gun deals coming (if for no other reason to remind everyone of their right as well as yours and my freedom).

Yes, Kali laws are very crazy, but it helps the liberal know it alls sleep better at night knowing they have violated somebody else's rights.
This is a great price for the Sig, but for a couple of hundred more, I like the XCR better (not just trying to start a fight).....

@rustybender: More or less. The standing militias that fought the redcoats were mostly using their own weapons (at least to start; I'm not so sure about Washington's army). And the Founding Fathers were, except for the Federalists, pretty skeptical of strong central governments, and wanted the State militias to be strong enough to defend State's rights. So in the current context, I suppose the Father's would have wanted weapons like these available to franchised citizens for their use in the State militias. One result of the Civil War, of course, is that the concept of independent States and independent State militias became a lot more limited, so the appropriateness of having military-grade weapons in the hand of individuals is, perhaps, less than it was, although the Constitutional language wasn't amended.

@swapmeet: Interesting you should say that, as the 5.56 NATO round was derived from the .222 Remington, a popular varmint hunting round for its time. Even today, the commercial version of 5.56 NATO, .223 Remington, is still a popular varmint round. (Some examples of varmints: rats, chipmunks, gophers, jackrabbits, marmots, groundhogs, porcupine, opossum, coyotes, skunks, and weasels.)

The rifle of the day was the musket. There also existed pistols. With one, you were EXACTLY armed just like the military or ANY military on earth.

This gun? NOT SO. It is SEMI AUTO. Not FULL AUTO. Learn the difference. The Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting or self defense. It has to do with protecting liberty from a tyrannical government. If you've read ONE BOOK on the subject, you'd know.

This gun "looks mean" to people that dont know a THING about guns...i.e., YOU.

I can guarantee MOST hunting rifles are deadlier than this gun; military ammo is jacketed and expands nowhere near what a soft-tip unjacketed hollow-point bullet does from a "nice, friendly wooden-stock" hunting rifle.

It's cheap ammo. About half the people I know that hunt just do it for tradition/holiday/being outdoors/playing cards and getting drunk at night.

Seriously, MOST ammunition out of any rifle will kill a deer unless it misses everything vital...but it can still bleed to death. As far as "varmints", any animal under 2 pounds is best handled by a 22 semi-auto. Its two cents per shot or less (on sale), not very loud, and if you miss, little chance of it injuring anyone or going too far (compared to centerfire caliber).

@skrutinizr: The 5.56mm wasn't really used until the 70s or so. Most old hunting rifles (for larger game like dear) use something around a 7.62mm (or .30 caliber). A lot of small game rifles fire low power rimfire .22 variants which are very close to the 5.56 in diameter but are totally different animals ballistically. Most old hunting rifles are also bolt action and hold at most five or so shots. This is semi auto and holds 30. Comparing this to an old hunting rifle is silly at best since you can't take semi-autos hunting in most cases. The only legal uses (typically) for this gun are punching paper or home defense (which to be honest a half decent pump shotgun is probably better for).

That being said, the only reason I wouldn't buy one is the price. I'm sure this would be a lot of fun but I can have a lot more with the many cheaper guns I own and supply them with ammo for several years at this price.

I bought a DPMS Panther Mark 12 for $1345, other than not having a collapsible stock, I would say it's a much better weapon. It has an 18" barrel, it's very accurate (shooting Lake City 5.56 55 gr) and the Mrs. loves it. But if you can't find it at the same price, the sig will do.

Other than punching paper you can shoot steel. Paper is boring unless you're at 500 or 600 yds (but try 300 yd off hand sometime). We have ram silhouettes at our range at 550 yds and the Mrs. nails them with iron sights on the Mark 12.

As for home defense, do penetration tests of your own with drywall, it's safer (less collateral damage) for personal defense to shoot a 5.56 in your house than it is to shoot a handgun (even a 9mm) or a shotgun (unless you've loaded it with salt)...you be the Judge :)

This is a great price on the 556 SWAT. The 556 platform takes the best attributes of the AR-15/AK47/FN and puts them into one reliable and accurate firearm. The ammo in 5.56 or.223 is still relatively inexpensive and sold everywhere. This is a great rifle to put holes in paper or removing pesky a varmint.

They gave me a piece of paper, said, "Kid, see the phsychiatrist, room 604."

And I went up there, I said, "Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I
wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and
guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill,
KILL, KILL." And I started jumpin up and down yelling, "KILL, KILL," and
he started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down
yelling, "KILL, KILL." And the sargent came over, pinned a medal on me,
sent me down the hall, said, "You're our boy."

Oh noes, an "assault rifle!" The exact type of weapon used in 0.2% of all homicides!!! (no, that's not a typo). There's a pretty obvious reason that the vast, vast majority of crimes aren't committed with rifles, especially $1300+ rifles.

@aoviss: The controversy is that 5.56 mm is not a humane round. It won't put a large animal down fast enough. Unless you hit a perfect shot, the deer may run off, bleed, and not die for a few hours. You may not even be able to find the deer's body as a trophy or for venison, which would be a waste.

In order to form a well regulated milita!!!!! Thomas Jefferson must have edited the part where it said "any schmuck with a couple thousand dollars should be considered well regulated and also a milita".

Besides, it's a dependent clause that doesn't impact the independent clause, "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." It's actually stronger language than that found in the First Amendment: "Congress shall pass no law...".

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