I get that Loomis. It is all our responsibility to know the rules. Apparently everyone thinks that an OB disc can't be retrieved to throw again. I am not sure who started that rumor....but......the only thing you may be able to get them for would be 30 seconds. Now, a Mandatory I believe that you have to leave it...but I am foggy on that, it may have changed as well...

Still, common practice in a "gentlemans game" should indicate that we help each other, because there will be a day when you will be in need of that some help.

Jack, the OB retrieval rule was brought up on my card at Muni. Rizzloe retrieved a disc from an OB shot to throw on the next. I didn't get my pdga rule book in time and no one had a current one...

I can't find anything in the rule book that states you can't use a disc that went OB. In fact I can't find in the Mando section currently either (now i haven't scoured the rule book for it yet, but I will). I could be thinking of an older version of the rules, because the entire Mando section was basically redone this year. So it may in fact be that now you can go and get a disc that was thrown missing the Mando, but you then can call the person on 30 seconds....The 30 second rule got a big beefy update this year for certain....winds like this past weekend could have made it tough on players to really enforce it.

As far as I understand it, you can retrieve your disc and throw it again as long as you do it within 30 seconds of approaching your lie. I know it use to be 30 seconds from when you placed your mini, but that was changed this year to when you address your lie or something to that effect.

"You are now allowed to retrieve a disc after a stance violation (the excessive time rule still applies of course). "

"The 30-second clock (excessive time) now starts when you reach your disc, rather than after you mark it, since a disc may not be marked. You can no longer stand over your disc holding your mini for an indefinite amount of time."