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He said that “investigators were correct in honing in on the two fake-passport carrying Iranian passengers on the doomed flight, and they have wasted valuable time by exploring other leads.” Those Iranians do seem to have been dismissed rather casually. And Iran’s being involved would make perfect sense: the Iranian mullahs are bolder than ever, as they know that Barack Obama isn’t going to lift a finger to stop their jihad, and instead will continue to give them whatever they want.

A former security chief for El Al said that the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 points directly to Iran.

Isaac Yeffet, who served as head of global security for Israel’s national carrier in the 1980s and now works as an aviation security consultant in New Jersey, said investigators were correct in honing in on the two fake-passport carrying Iranian passengers on the doomed flight, and they have wasted valuable time by exploring other leads.

“What happened to this aircraft, nobody knows. My guess is based upon the stolen passports, and I believe Iran was involved,” he said. “They hijacked the aircraft and they landed it in a place that nobody can see or find it.”

In the immediate aftermath of the aircraft’s disappearance, which occurred last week during a standard night flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, Malaysian officials and the media were fixated on the story of two Iranians who had made it onto the plane with stolen passports. As the days wore on and the investigation uncovered new and confusing details, with officials admitting that the plane could have traveled for as long as seven hours without radio contact, and that its potential location could be anywhere from northern Kyrgyzstan to the southern Indian Ocean, attention has shifted to the pilots and to far-flung conspiracy theories. This is a misstep, said Yeffet, and one that would not have happened in Israel.

“This would never have happened on an Israeli plane,” says Yeffet. “An El Al aircraft was hijacked for the first and last time in 1968. Since then, there has not been a single flight where security did not check every single name.”

However, it would have taken more than just a pair of Iranians with forged documents, Yeffet said, to pull off such an astonishing crime. “I can’t believe for a second that if these people planned to hijack the aircraft, it was just them,” he said. But based upon the tried-and-true Israeli intelligence strategy of profiling, the pilots, he said, are unlikely suspects.

“We are talking about a captain who is 53 years old, who has worked for Malaysia Airlines for 30 years, and suddenly he became a terrorist? He wanted to commit suicide? If he committed suicide, where is the debris?”

Adding that the captain in question, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, was known to be happily married and comfortably well-off, Yeffet said the profile simply does not fit. “From the United States to China to Japan, everybody is searching for this aircraft or piece of it. And there is no sign. So in my opinion, the aircraft was hijacked. And it was an excellent plan from the terrorists, to land in a place where they can hide the plane and no one can find it.”

Lt. Col. (Res.) Eran Ramot, a former IAF fighter pilot and the head of aviation research at Israel’s Fisher Institute for Air and Space Strategic Studies, however, drew other conclusions.

“It would be very complicated [for someone other than the pilot to have flown the plane],” Ramot said, based on the stunning revelations that the flight not only made a total U-turn from its planned route but also dipped in between radar points for hours and had all of its tracking systems manually turned off. “It takes somebody that knows how to operate an airplane like this.”

Like Yeffet, Ramot believes the plane was being intentionally flown to a secret location, and he went as far as to say he is holding out hope that the 239 passengers and crew who were on board are still alive.

“We don’t know any better yet,” he said. “One of my theories is that the airplane landed in Bangladesh. It could reach there, it’s very close to Afghanistan. It could have landed on airstrip there, and everybody on board is still alive. It could be done.”

Asked what would have happened if the plane – which went undetected for hours as it blipped across Malaysian radars – had entered Israeli airspace, Ramot said, “It would not go unnoticed, that’s for sure. Action would have been carried out, the least of which would have been an interception to escort it.”

That doesn’t mean that the Malaysian military wasn’t paying attention, he added. It’s simply that in Israel, the margin for taking chances is significantly reduced.

“It’s a matter of atmosphere,” he said. “Here, every blip on the screen is suspicious because that’s the way we live. That’s our daily program. I can’t imagine they pay as much attention, but if a blip runs wide or runs strange, I would expect them to notice.”

Pini Schiff, one of Israel’s top aviation security experts, said that if there is any comfort that Israelis can take from the story of MH 370, which is proving to be one of the most confounding aviation disasters of all time, it is that it could never happen to a plane flying out of Ben-Gurion International Airport.

“It simply wouldn’t happen at Ben-Gurion,” he said. “The level of security at Ben-Gurion and on all El Al planes is so high, there is nothing more they could do… Nations are not spending billions of dollars the way the Israeli government is protecting Israeli aviation, because the threat against Israeli aviation is so high. What we are doing in Ben-Gurion is an operation that is not being done in any other airport in the world. Not in the United States, not in Britain, not in Germany, not anywhere.”

Like his colleagues, Schiff said that his guess is as good as anyone’s as to the fate of MH 370, but he also believes there’s a good possibility that it has been brought down, intact, on a hidden runway in some far-flung corner of the world.

“It will be found. It may take a month or a year, but eventually, it will be found,” he said. “This aircraft didn’t vanish. It exists somewhere in the world, and it will be found, probably in one piece.”

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27-year-old Fariq Abdul Hamid, second in command pilot of the aircraft, described by his grandmother and imam as very devout Muslim. He had access to the plane and could have stashed weapons aboard.

Pouria Nour Mohammad Mehrdad and Delavar Seyed Mohammadreza, booked by an Iranian agent under false passports. 18 and 19 year olds traveling to Malaysia, China, and then to Europe? ? Who paid for all those air fares? $1800 each?

Dr Yuchen Li, a Uighar with a doctoral degree in aeronautical engineering from Cambridge University. He had recently married and was on his way to a job in China, but his wife was not on the plane with him.

What do they all have in common? All young devout Muslims. We know devout zealots believe that jihad is a religious obligation and an immediate ticket to eternal paradise regardless of whether they are connected to any known terrorist group.

I can imagine Hamid invited Li into the cockpit, Mehrdad and Mohammadreza rushed in to overpower and eliminate the first officer. Hamid immediately went to 45K feet and briefly knocked out the passengers. When the passengers came to they were shown the body of the pilot as evidence they should not resist.

That’s my theory which is limited to the info available. Why would they do this, even if it is a half baked plan? For the simple reason that this act demonstrates West is not in control.

I don’t buy the explanation that the first pilot did this out of some political statement against the government. The Malaysians seemed to do everything they could to avoid admitting this was a criminal act or terrorism in order to deflect criticism of Islam.

Don’t fly any airline that belongs to an Islamic state or company or has Muslim Crew if you can avoid it.

Not even between two Islamic states, especially if the one is Sunny and the is Shite.

Preferrably avoid holidays at or travel to or from Islamic states, at least until they excise all hate speech from the Qur’an, Hadith and Sira, and preferrably they find another Prophet that is not a Megalomaniac, Mysoginist, murdering plundering psychopatic paedophile caravan robbing slave master.

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The man, named as Mohd Khairul Amri Selamat, 29, is a Malaysian who is believed to have worked for a private jet charter.

It comes as authorities focus on the pilots and anyone else on board who had technical flying knowledge.

“Yes, we are looking into Mohd Khairul as well as the other passengers and crew. The focus is on anyone else who might have had aviation skills on that plane,” a senior police official with knowledge of the investigations said.”

And last night they were given a major boost after the authorities admitted for the first time the missing Malaysia Airlines jet may have landed rather than crashed.

As the search, widened a senior official in Kuala Lumpur confirmed it was “possible” ­satellite signals from the plane could have been sent while it was on the ground.

Dr. Yuchen Li? This is about as Uighur a name as mine (and my pseudonym here is Aramaic). It looks Han or Hui–and, I understand, the man was part of an official delegation, so I doubt he was truly “devout” in any conventional sense. If you want a real Uighur name, take Wu’er Kaixi (Uerkesh Daolet–the other is how it gets put into Chinese).

I think the co-pilot’s ties to Muslim Brotherhood-linked parties and politicians is probably as far as we need to go; that and perhaps an attack of “amok”. As for the Iranians with stolen passports, my first guess is that they were a couple of refugee wannabes suckered into buying bad documents by some unscrupulous fixer. It may be that Yeffet is correct about an Iranian hand in this, but my own guess is that some real Iranian spooks or terrorists would probably, barring an accident, do something a lot more intelligent than try to get by on stolen passports purchased in the black market or blow up a plane with themselves on it. Further, I don’t think Iran really wants to antagonize Beijing (a probably source of some of their nuclear technology and equipment).

Yes, I strongly suspect that in the event of a real shooting war when some invader of Iran takes the leadership’s noises about loving martyrdom at face value and starts acting like Huleku Khan or Timur-e-leng, Iran will go down in defeat at the first possible chance. Let’s also not forget that the Sheikh al Jabal, when the Alamut was taken, bought his own life (his descendant is the Agha Khan) after sending so many young fools to Jahanum by way of supposed “martyrdom”.

Much as I like Israel and dislike the Mullahocracy, I smell El Al’s former scurity chief trying to get a lot of the rest of the world to gang up on Iran.

What an absurd idea. Why would Iran target a plane full of Chinese nationals, when it depends so heavily on China for political and economical support? I’m sure this El Al guy is aware of that, he’s not stupid; he just thinks the public is naive.

Much more likely is that this is good old Sunni terrorism. Pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah supported Anwar Ibrahim. And who is Anwar Ibrahim? A global Muslim Brotherhood leader. Need I say more?!

Possibly Iran
Every now and then Iran’s Muslims seem to have a need to offer up a self-imposed loyalty test to show that they are still Muslim just like their Sunni neighbors and prove that they have not drifted into wayward apostasy.
Ayatollahs wear their fancy hats a bit tighter and their yoke of Islam just a bit higher.
From flamboyant fatwa to honor killing flagellation for the sake of ‘Allah’
Iran’s Muslims have a perverse codependent inner conflict that sometimes makes them act just a bit nuttier.

It’s a mistake that MW is giving the status of a neologism. From YOUR link (did you even bother to read the link your provided?)

Usage Discussion of HONE IN

The few commentators who have noticed hone in consider it to be a mistake for home in. It may have arisen from home in by the weakening of the \m\ sound to \n\ or may perhaps simply be due to the influence of hone. Though it seems to have established itself in American English (and mention in a British usage book suggests it is used in British English too), your use of it especially in writing is likely to be called a mistake. Home in or in figurative use zero in does nicely.

So it can pack it full of explosives and hostages and drop it on Tel Aviv or somewhere else in Israel where it can do maximum damage. Of course Israel will shoot it down before it does the intended damage and suffer the disapproval of the rest of the world for being one step ahead of these bastards, as usual.

No problem at all, it has disappeared, no one knows where it is, if it crashed still no knows where it is, if it can crash and no one see it then it can land and no one see it.
3. Iran did this because….??? Going to fill it up with explosives then crash it in to ,
1, Whitehouse.
2, Buckingham Palace.
3, Knesset.
Carry on guessing?

Uh, I second the observation that if you can’t tell the difference between crashing and landing, you shouldn’t be trusted with the controls of an airplane.

As for the likelihood of a crash, even a crash in the Gulf of Thailand leaves a lot of water to cover. Now that they think someone diverted it to over the Indian Ocean, that leaves not only a lot more water covering the site, but also a lot of depth. This is going to be a long and difficult search.

I personally suspect, at this point, that the co-pilot had something really wrong going on in his life (apart from his political and religious affiliations).

I’m surprised at the Israeli security guy ruling out the chief pilot – who was, by all accounts, *exactly* the sort of expert pilot who would be needed if somebody wanted to a/ hijack a plane b/ fly ‘under/ outside’ the radar and, in particular, c/ land a plane that size on a substandard runway somewhere and get it down in one piece.

From the article:
“We are talking about a captain who is 53 years old, who has worked for Malaysia Airlines for 30 years, and suddenly he became a terrorist? He wanted to commit suicide? If he committed suicide, where is the debris?”

‘Adding that the captain in question, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, was known to be happily married and comfortably well-off, Yeffet said the profile simply does not fit.”

Really? The guy was a Muslim. A practising Muslim, not an apostate. And *that’s* all it takes, really, when it comes down to it. That’s the only necessary and sufficient condition. Muslims – even Muslims like this bloke – have a distressing tendency to suddenly Go Jihad.

Further thought.

IF the plane wasn’t crashed into the Indian Ocean somewhere, like that Egyptian airlines plane some years ago, then: if it was landed, it has to have been landed A/ somewhere within the radius permitted by the fuel it had on board and B/ somewhere that isn’t very well policed/ watched/ tracked by assorted Great Power eyes in the sky .

So immediately one rules out, for example, northwest Australia.

I would rule out (or drop down to the foot of the list) all the non-Muslim countries within the “reachable zone” and focus on the Muslim countries, plus – just perhaps – Myanmar. And then I’d go through all the spy satellite pictures of any known runways within those countries that would be capable of taking this plane.

And there are dozens of defunct long concrete runways throughout the region, left over from WWII and various training camps built and shut since. All you need to approach and land such a field in the dark of night are its GPS coordinates.

“I’m surprised at the Israeli security guy ruling out the chief pilot”

Even many seasoned individuals who have lived for years in the milieu of the Muslim world continue to indulge the idea that the nice Muslims they have come to be acquainted with or even know more closely are not capable of the fanaticism of terrorism. Doesn’t our own Philip Jihadski who lived amongst Muslims for years think he has known some decent Muslims? (Not to mention several other Jihad Watch commenters over the years who blurt out such anecdotal irrelevancies.)

Malaysia Airlines’ (MAS) RM1.17 billion loss in 2013 despite a 9 per cent rise in revenue shows that the ailing flag carrier is saddled with “legacy issues” — despite a touted turnaround — that may require a drastic bankruptcy to jettison, Singapore’s Business Times said today.

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2. “Captain Zaharie’s wife and three children had camped at their second house in Subang a day before the incident,” said Norhayati Wahiduddin.

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3. He was in the courtroom and witnessed the overturn of a succesful Appeal by his political hero, Anwar Bin Ibrahim, for(allegedly trumped-up)charges of sodomy. Zaharie was outraged when he witnessed the Malaysian government-controlled High Court sentence Anwar to 5 years in prison.

“Ibrahim has many known ties to the global U.S Muslim Brotherhood including helping to found the International Institute of Islamic Thought IIIT) where he currently serves as a director, representing Asian youth and serving as a trustee for the World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY) during the 1970′s and early 1980′s, and appearances at numerous Brotherhood-linked conferences.”

I agree with Mr squat, it’s very unlikely that any Iranian will target a muslim country for a hi jacking and China since they depend on China for support.

Here is my scenario: The plane was diverted by the pilot or possibly the copilot. This was not SJS(Sudden Jihad syndrome), but rather a planned jihad. the pilot who is a fanatical Muslim, decided to cash in his paradise for Allah chips. What better to please allah than to take down a hundred plus infidels? after incapacitating the co-pilot he diverted the plane to the Indian ocean. The reason he chose the deep and dark ocean was to hide the evidence of his jihad. flying north was out of the question, there are too many military radar from India and China and all other countries of that region excluding possibly Somalia. Bangladesh and all countries of the region will not have anything to do with a hi jacked Malaysian plane full of Chinese.
By flying into the deepest parts of the Indian ocean he could hide the evidence and still earn his virgins from allah.

One point still is not clear: given that the Chinese are the infidels who oppress Muslims, why not crash the airplane into Beijing? A mere ocean crash does not sound like a satisfactory denouement for a fanatical Islamist these days.

Now I’m actually scared at the thought of “devout Muslims” piloting large airliners into Western cities. Indonesia, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Qatar, etc — all operate major airlines who make daily landings into Western cities. Are our governments prepared to take proper action in case of a devout pilot trying to commit “suicide”?!

If this was an act of both terrorism and hijacking- which l believe it was- l don’t think these Jihadis would launch such a elaborate scheme just to crash land it randomly in the ocean. If that was really the case, the pilot could have just dive-bombed right after launch.

They flew the plane 45,000 feet in the air to cause the passengers to black out. They flew for several hours after shutting off the tracking devices. I believe this plane was delivered to persons hostile to the West. This plane is going to be utilized for nefarious purposes, for the cause of Jihad. I pray to God l’m wrong.

Iran is doing a pretty good job lately of thumbing their noses at the US and being a major exporter of terrorism, aren’t they? And despite being a small country suffering under crushing sanctions they are still proceeding with their nuclear program. I’d say they were on a roll for dominance in the Muslim world.

As far as their relationship with China is concerned, China has emerged as Iran’s top trading partner (http://freebeacon.com/china-becomes-irans-largest-trade-partner/) and that is unlikely to change. There’s little chance that the Iranian government will be directly tied to this event, especially with the Malaysians in charge of the investigation. Also, with a population of 1.351 billion people, China is not going to stop doing business with Iran because of a terrorist act involving a hundred or so Chinese. After all, did 9-11 alter our relationship with Saudi Arabia?

“Malaysian Muslims are mainly Sunnis and have been strongly discouraged from following Shia Islam.

Local ulama have also delivered talks in mosques and surau, attacking the Shias as the enemies of Islam, while referring to the current civil war in Syria which saw Iran at loggerheads with its Gulf neighbours.”

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“Dr Syed Azman Ahmad Nawawi, who heads PAS’s international bureau, said a minister had sought his assistance on the matter, saying Iran’s reaction to the anti-Shia campaign has cost Malaysia dearly.”

Would the landing needed to have been on an airstrip – or could it have been on water, in the style of Captain Sullenberger a few years ago on the Hudson? If so, the plane could have landed anywhere in the Indian Ocean, in the vicinity of a ship controlled by pirates – and the simulator that the captain had built for himself would have become very useful…

I am worried that the plane was flown to Eastern Iran or Pakistan, and will be repainted as an El Al plane replica, loaded with explosives or worse, and flown to be crashed into Tel Aviv or Dimona. Can someone reassure me on this? This is a really bad business, and I hope it is resolved soon.

and we would hope that the Israeli’s would know that this was not theirs if it were to pass. We would hope they know when and from where their plans are coming home. Now look at it this way, the plane is painted, doesn’t matter with what paint but let’s say the paint of El Al…and it is used to bomb another country, to stir up WWlll and to tarnish Israel.

You chose the right name, as you obviously don’t know squat about the geography of the area. The plane could fly over countries hostile to Israel unchallenged, and Israel would only have a few minutes to act since they can’t do anything over those countries’ airspace. Did you forget how tiny it is?

Don’t underestimate the symbolism of carrying out such an act to the muslim fanatics.

What’s the maximum speed of a 777? Boeing says the cruising speed is 0.84 Mach, max is 0.89 Mach (590 MPH, 9.6 miles-a-minute). That might be fast enough, depending on whether or not Israel has ready-to-fire AA of some type, because it wouldn’t give you enough time to launch fighters.

Stealth would probably be a better option though, keep stalling until you get near a major population center, then maybe light the afterburners and go in kamikaze style.

Hijack an airliner and thus risking a war with china or Malaysia just to get hold of an airplane to repaint? simply preposterous,. just to let you know Iran and Pakistan do have many airliners of their own and enough money to buy brand new ones. the leaders of these countries may be crazy but not crazy enough to hi jack an airliner with Chinese. specially since they both have good relations with China.

paint is not the only factor. flight plans, transponder, and past flying history . Every plane from any airliner company is on schedule and identity. an unknown plane appearing in the sky with the right paint job but all other information incorrect will be cause for a shoot down by fighter planes.

If the plane is engaged in a jihadic suicide mission, and is loaded w/high explosives of some type, it doesn’t need to be a perfect disguise, just one that can fool the authorities long enough to get in range of its target.
Considering there are other, “legitimate”, islam0nazi airlines operating, it’s not hard to believe functionaries/employees in these companies would be willing to render assistance in such a matter.

“Lt. Col. (Res.) Eran Ramot … drew other conclusions.
“… Ramot believes the plane was being intentionally flown to a secret location….
“…he said, ‘One of my theories is that the airplane landed in Bangladesh. It could reach there, it’s very close to Afghanistan.'”

Bangladesh close to Afghanistan? It’s 1500 miles from Afghanistan! And to get there from Bangladesh the plane would have to cross India, where it would surely be observed by Indian radar.

My own theory is that the plane was flown over the ocean, to keep it out of radar observation, travelling to the south of India and Ceylon into the Arabia Sea, then north to Pakistan or Iran. But that would be a flight of 3600 miles from its last reported position over the Malayan peninsula. So it becomes a question of whether the plane had enough fuel for that distance. If the plane was carrying a full load of fuel, then the answer is that it could easily fly that distance. But if it was carrying only enough for a routine flight to Beijing, then it could not.
So I think the question of the fuel load is a critical one, and one that has not been asked or answered in any report that I’ve seen.

An Israeli would of course be eager to point fingers at Iran, just as Iran would point figers at Israel or America since both states are in conflict. Iran has no motive or interests for hijacking a Malaysian airlines plane. Iran government’s current interests are against the West and Israel, and no Israelis were on board that plane.

For the last two days, the talking heads have been saying what my gut has been telling me from day one; we’re going to see this plane again, and it won’t be pretty. But now I’m convinced that we’re going to see it again here in the good ol’ U.S. of A. or Israel…as a false flag attack. The media has been warming us up to the idea for the last two days. First, they started saying that Israel’s on alert. Second, they said that the plane, with a full load of fuel, could reach the U.S. from Pakistan. I think, and it’s just a wild hunch, of course, that the east coast is going to see an EMP attack. Obama can then declare martial law and stay in office indefinitely.

My original theory still stands , and all your wild terrorist conspiracies are just wild guesses. from the news this day we can correctly conclude that this jet crashed into the furthest reaches of the Indian ocean, after traveling on a south west course far from any land.
Now the only question is was this indeed a jihad by one of the pilot, or perhaps a catastrophic failure of the electronic on board, that caused the airplane to incapacitate the crew and passengers? At that point the plane would be on auto pilot using the last course correction until it ran out of fuel. Only the black boxes can tell.

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