:wink4 Just a buncha guys and gals waitin for the other side to do sumthin so they can blame them for sumthin they did and then the other guys wait for them to do sumthin so they can blame them for sumthin that they did but were hopin the other wouldnt do but did. This post makes about as much sense as warshington DC

The Democratic "response" was PRICELESS. I would hate to live in Virginia. What was wrong with that dude. It was hard to look at with one eyebrow permanently raised. I listened to every word and all he tried to do...in my opinion...was throw out buzzwords and begin planting a seed for the Democratic election campaigns of "We can do better."

At one point he started in on the War on Terrorism and the "we can do better" so I was waiting for his/their proposal. The only thing he proposed was more veterans benefits and higher recruiting bonuses.... Huh??? How the h.e. double hockey sticks is that going to win the War on Terrorism?

I also got a kick out of how the commentators on ABC were talking about that there was NO WAY the Dems would embrace his alternate fuel proposals, not because they are bad, but because a Republican brought it up and after all, this is an election year. So expect the same thing Bush said to be brought up by the Dems as soon as it is convenient for them.

Guess I'm gettn old cause I actually watched the whole thing...........Sure hope his getting us away from foriegn oil will help out the farmers with ethanol and bio-diesel (better commodity prices) and bring down these fuel prices. Still seems wild to see an oil person try to get away from it tho.:soapbox:

I heard a lot of good stuff from Mr. Bush but I also heard a lot of pandering. "Our economy could not operate without immigrant workers"? What the crap is that? I know all of the arguements for and against this point but you don't appeal to nation of citizens who are SICK AND TIRED of illegal immigration by saying that we couldn't do without them!

And this whole topic of relieving our dependence on foreign oil just frustrates me. Instead of raising the budget of the Dept of Energy by 20% to give them more funds to look into other energy sources, why don't we tell ol' Jeb down there in FL that we're gonna start drilling off the coast regardless of what he and the tourist industry think. It wouldn't fix the problem but it would immediately reduce our dependence on foreign oil.

Last I heard, all models say that Hillary cant get the votes she will need to make a serious run at prez. She, at times, has appeared to move more to the center (I suspect to gain support for folks on the fence). But every so often, she will say something that reminds us just how dangerously left she is and can be.

On the other hand, I hope that shes the dem nomination. I think it would make the race infinitely easier for the gop.

Very good and recent study concerning the efficiency of ethanol produced by both corn and cellulosic (ethanol derived from fibrous plant materials such as corn stalks, some grasses, sugar cane,ect.)

Early studies that show a negative net energy value when producing ethanol were patently flawwed and this study re-works the numbers of 6 trials using up-to-date models and shows not only a net gain in energy, but also a slight reduction in greenhouse gasses. Good news but this technology is quite a ways off as far as wide-scale practical implementation. Simply put, we are gonna have to have oil for a while longer, like it or not!