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Re: Saudi Arabia executes woman convicted of 'sorcery'

Who cares where the tradition comes from. What matters is that industrialized nations are doing it. Not Congo or Ivory Coast, but major economies with advanced technology. Sure, some bush-country can't fix such a problem tomorrow, but an industralized teched-up country should not have that crap anymore.

Re: Saudi Arabia executes woman convicted of 'sorcery'

Originally Posted by Jetboogieman

Actually it isn't a muslim tradition at all, it's a tribal tradition inherent to the area.

Well this Islamic tribal tradition seems to have spread around the world. The fathers and mothers who murder their daughters, (often with the help of their sons) don;t often mention which "tribe"they belong to, only that Islam has been insulted. Can you name these tribes?

It's not part of the religion.

Violence against women is certainly part of the religion and although sex with animals seems to be acceptable, along with instructions on bestiality, homosexuality means death,

Re: Saudi Arabia executes woman convicted of 'sorcery'

Originally Posted by Grant

Well this Islamic tribal tradition seems to have spread around the world. The fathers and mothers who murder their daughters, (often with the help of their sons) don;t often mention which "tribe"they belong to, only that Islam has been insulted. Can you name these tribes?

Violence against women is certainly part of the religion and although sex with animals seems to be acceptable, along with instructions on bestiality, homosexuality means death,

Re: Saudi Arabia executes woman convicted of 'sorcery'

Girls are executed for witchcraft in Africa... in Christian areas of Africa.

FGM is an African tradition not a religious issue.

But if I know Grant, the will blame it all on Muslims and of course on the left... the very religious and tradition bound left wing....

Yet another example, Serenity. Two in a row, both saying much the same thing, and both admiring each other posts.

It seems their job, probably self appointed, is to deflect any criticism of Islam practices or traditions with the "Oh, yeah, what about witchcraft in Africa" arguments.

Leftists have aligned themselves with their new allies, the Islamists, because they both share an animus toward the west and a revolutionary fervor needed to bring about changes of some sort. They would have previous aligned themselves with Fascists or Communists, and perhaps many still do.

The danger lies in the obvious flaw that these are not very intelligent people, as you can see, and still have not yet learned that ideas put into action have consequences of which they never imagined.

Re: Saudi Arabia executes woman convicted of 'sorcery'

Yet another example, Serenity. Two in a row, both saying much the same thing, and both admiring each other posts.

It seems their job, probably self appointed, is to deflect any criticism of Islam practices or traditions with the "Oh, yeah, what about witchcraft in Africa" arguments.

Leftists have aligned themselves with their new allies, the Islamists, because they both share an animus toward the west and a revolutionary fervor needed to bring about changes of some sort. They would have previous aligned themselves with Fascists or Communists, and perhaps many still do.

The danger lies in the obvious flaw that these are not very intelligent people, as you can see, and still have not yet learned that ideas put into action have consequences of which they never imagined.

Your post is entirely moronic.
Ever heard of witchcraft in Africa? Didn't the Westerners practice their own witchhunts during the Middle Ages?
Give me a break. Leftists aligning themselves with Fascists? Do you even have an idea of where Fascism leans? It's out over in the far right. It will be like claiming that Michele Bachmann will ally herself with Karl Marx.

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Re: Saudi Arabia executes woman convicted of 'sorcery'

Originally Posted by Jetboogieman

Oh brother...

This is taken as a serious and logical response by leftists, Serenity, whose brains slow down, and frequently malfunction, when confronted with fact. He is probably researching his ""Handbook of Distractions and Diversions" now in order to come up with another snappy response.

Re: Saudi Arabia executes woman convicted of 'sorcery'

Originally Posted by Grant

This is taken as a serious and logical response by leftists, Serenity, whose brains slow down, and frequently malfunction, when confronted with fact. He is probably researching his ""Handbook of Distractions and Diversions" now in order to come up with another snappy response.

No mate, you're just one of the many posters over the years who I've come to refer to as "brick walls" you have no interest in anything except your own rhetoric which you push shamelessly even when it doesn't add anything to the conversation.

You're a lost cause, you're not here to debate, you're just here to spout your rhetoric because it makes you feel better.

This is the "it happens everywhere so why single out Islam'' argument, correct?

The problem with this is that if we debate that taxes in Germany are too high, you and your friends will say, "Oh yeah?? What about the high taxes in Nigeria??" If we want to mention juvenile crime in Dublin you and your friends will say ""Öh, yeah ? What about those juvenile gangs in Calcutta? Do you get my point?

Didn't the Westerners practice their own witchhunts during the Middle Ages?

The idea that Muslims are still living in the Middle ages, or some other earlier century, has already been addressed. You see, My proud friend, we are tryig to discuss a particular problem in the contemporary world, and perhaps bring some shame to those who either intend to carry out this practice or sympathize with it. When lawyers defend the parents for murdering ther daughters their claim might also be, "Didn't the Westerners practice their own witchhunts during the Middle Ages""? The response is So What. We do not want the practice to continue anymore and this is not the Middle Ages.

Give me a break. Leftists aligning themselves with Fascists? Do you even have an idea of where Fascism leans? It's out over in the far right. It will be like claiming that Michele Bachmann will ally herself with Karl Marx.

Your theories are rather commonplace, PSK, but in fact it is easy to convince some folks to fight gor the Communists, Fascists, Nazis or whoever..Right now you are making a defense for religious fanatics beheading a woman for witchcraft. If you give this some thought, would you have ever imagined this possible? Nor did those who once cheered on the Nazis and the Communists.

But we can see how easy it can be to defend the indefensible. We saw that during the Nuremberg trials, and thousands of times since. We see it here.