Re: Random Coachella Facts and History....

Originally Posted by RotationSlimWang

Know who's to blame for Ben's death? BEN. He knew the risks and he fucked up, and these are the costs. Not Coachella, not the message board, not his friends, nobody. The problem with this country is trying to foist the blame for other peoples' actions away from where it rightfully belongs.

Re: Random Coachella Facts and History....

Wait... xmbnx was the guy who died outside the Coachella grounds?

Originally Posted by bmack86

And it's been long established that Chris hates fun.

Originally Posted by Hatinisbad

I took my niece this year and it was her first Coachella. It was so fun to see it through her eyes. She thought it felt like a magical scene from Shreck. The one where all the fairy tale creatures meet for the first time in Shreck's swamp.

Re: Random Coachella Facts and History....

Re: Random Coachella Facts and History....

Originally Posted by gaypalmsprings

Ben was first. Who is next?

Who the fuck cares? I don't mean to be cold-hearted, but sometimes you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet. The first year I went to Bonnaroo a kid died from a heroin overdose, and while it's a tragic loss for his friends and family there were 80,000 other people who LIVED (and lived well, I might add.) There are people that would have you believe that huge music festivals like Coachella and Bonnaroo are not worth even one single death, and they would be morons. They would be the same people that say that heavy metal causes suicide, hip-hop causes gang-violence, and parental advisory stickers keep obscene music from reaching the ears of our children. Everything comes with a price. If one of the ultimate costs of Coachella is that every couple of years some kid crokes in his tent from a heroin overdose, then I humbly submit that that is cost worth paying for an event as profound is Coachella. And for the record, I've never read any posts on this board advocating heroin use, and with few exceptions, I don't think there's anyone that would argue that opiates enhance the festival going experience.

Re: Random Coachella Facts and History....

Originally Posted by lindysindie

can we all go back to that happy we are all one coachella loving family place we were at back in april/may? remember how much we all loved each other then?

I am still in love with my Coachella fam and have big plans for next year. This year was the best out of the last three years that I have gone. I drove past Coachella the other day on the way to Ventura and was overtaken by crazy feelings of excitement and joy. I have never really been to the area without Coachella. I cannot wait.

Re: Random Coachella Facts and History....

Originally Posted by bobert

Who the fuck cares? I don't mean to be cold-hearted, but sometimes you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet. The first year I went to Bonnaroo a kid died from a heroin overdose, and while it's a tragic loss for his friends and family there were 80,000 other people who LIVED (and lived well, I might add.) There are people that would have you believe that huge music festivals like Coachella and Bonnaroo are not worth even one single death, and they would be morons. They would be the same people that say that heavy metal causes suicide, hip-hop causes gang-violence, and parental advisory stickers keep obscene music from reaching the ears of our children. Everything comes with a price. If one of the ultimate costs of Coachella is that every couple of years some kid crokes in his tent from a heroin overdose, then I humbly submit that that is cost worth paying for an event as profound is Coachella. And for the record, I've never read any posts on this board advocating heroin use, and with few exceptions, I don't think there's anyone that would argue that opiates enhance the festival going experience.

bravo.
it's people's own fault. they know the risk and did it regardless which therefore, they are responsible for their own death

Re: Random Coachella Facts and History....

bravo.
it's people's own fault. they know the risk and did it regardless which therefore, they are responsible for their own death

The thing is... that kid (any other others that are in his position) could have died on any random weekend. It just happened to be the weekend of Coachella.

It's not like people never do any drugs, then they just show up at Coachella and start using out of the blue, then die. No. The people that die at Coachella and Bonnaroo and Woodstock and whatever else.. are people that should have just died the weekend before, when they had the exact same drug cocktails in their systems. That way, we would all be saved from having to read stupid ass posts about how sad it is.

Re: Random Coachella Facts and History....

Originally Posted by thewindowliquor

The thing is... that kid (any other others that are in his position) could have died on any random weekend. It just happened to be the weekend of Coachella.

It's not like people never do any drugs, then they just show up at Coachella and start using out of the blue, then die. No. The people that die at Coachella and Bonnaroo and Woodstock and whatever else.. are people that should have just died the weekend before, when they had the exact same drug cocktails in their systems. That way, we would all be saved from having to read stupid ass posts about how sad it is.

It is so sad.

Originally Posted by SepaGroove

You shouldn't feel uncool for not going to EDC, you should feel uncool because you are uncool.

Re: Random Coachella Facts and History....

Re: Random Coachella Facts and History....

Originally Posted by thewindowliquor

The thing is... that kid (any other others that are in his position) could have died on any random weekend. It just happened to be the weekend of Coachella.

It's not like people never do any drugs, then they just show up at Coachella and start using out of the blue, then die. No. The people that die at Coachella and Bonnaroo and Woodstock and whatever else.. are people that should have just died the weekend before, when they had the exact same drug cocktails in their systems. That way, we would all be saved from having to read stupid ass posts about how sad it is.

That is true.
But on that select weekend he was still doing drugs and he knew the risks and obviously didn't care and did it anyways.

Re: Random Coachella Facts and History....

Originally Posted by Memorial_07

That is true.
But on that select weekend he was still doing drugs and he knew the risks and obviously didn't care and did it anyways.

Yeah. You aren't getting it.

The point is, he was doing drugs on EVERY weekend, and he knew the risks, and obviously didn't care and did it anyone on EVERY WEEKEND. Maybe every weekday, too. I mean, granted, I'm speculating to a certain degree. It's possible (although contrary to what I've read here) that the kid had never done drugs before. I'd say it's a lot more likely, though, that this was run of the mill behavior for him, and he just happened to die the weekend of Coachella.

They say the best indicator of future behavior is past behavior. Junkies OD. It's not sad. Seriously, the worst part is that it's probably a pain in the ass for Goldenvoice. They are the innocent victims in this situation, because they will inevitably get some bad PR out of it, and they had nothing to do with it.

Re: Random Coachella Facts and History....

Originally Posted by RotationSlimWang

Coachella didn't kill him.

The other campsite did, clearly.

There is actually something to be said for this. Studies have shown that many people die from an OD not because of the amount of drugs they have ingested, but more because they were in place they were unfamiliar with. This is why most people who die of an OD in NYC, do so in some shaddy hotel bathroom and why those that die during Coachella, do so offsite. BEWARE!

Lick an orange, it tastes like an orange. Lick a pineapple, it tastes like a pineapple. Go ahead, try it. Try some more. The strawberries taste like strawberries. The snozzberries taste like snozzberries! We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams. Come along, come along.

Re: Random Coachella Facts and History....

Originally Posted by thewindowliquor

Yeah. You aren't getting it.

The point is, he was doing drugs on EVERY weekend, and he knew the risks, and obviously didn't care and did it anyone on EVERY WEEKEND. Maybe every weekday, too. I mean, granted, I'm speculating to a certain degree. It's possible (although contrary to what I've read here) that the kid had never done drugs before. I'd say it's a lot more likely, though, that this was run of the mill behavior for him, and he just happened to die the weekend of Coachella.

They say the best indicator of future behavior is past behavior. Junkies OD. It's not sad. Seriously, the worst part is that it's probably a pain in the ass for Goldenvoice. They are the innocent victims in this situation, because they will inevitably get some bad PR out of it, and they had nothing to do with it.