Thoughts on the Youngs incident.. knee drop and a couple of rubbish open handed shots?? yellow card?? maybe even a red??

Irish very unlucky deserved something out of the game thought Ansbro had a very solid game.. back row worked hard..front row had a hard time! felt pretty sorry for Max.. came on in a tough situation.. backs went well.. Tagi had a good game.. Homer of course cool calm as per!!

How can you learn from them we got pinged not rolling away when they did it all day newby was blatantly offside at three rucks ay least and the final try they took our man offside richards was bl**dy #awful at best

Would love to hear from someone who watched on tv how poor Bowden's defence was?
Should have been able to see that game out & I fear giving Casey his sentimeental send-off cost us when we were chasing a win after Tiggs got their last penalty.

Ansboro looked good as did Shingler.
Fantastic kick-off take by Jamie G

Portcullis Irish - absolutely agree. We took Evans off, who was having a reasonably good game, and replaced him with someone who can barely walk, leave alone run. And some of Bob's passing was "shovel it away and hope". Admire the man beyond belief, and loved watching him in his prime, but we can't afford sentimental substitutions in a match like today.

You see, I thought Bob showed what we missed. He came on, and immediately began shoving and pulling at the Leicester fella who looked like Genghis Khan. The guy nearly lost his rag and punched him. Bob then started pushing and shoving Leicester players as they tried to join the ruck, argued with the ref and then gathered the forces after the scrum penalty. We showed loads of passion today, but none of that hard-nosed, street-wise play that got us to the final of the Amlin cup and the Premiership.

He may not be that mobile anymore, but we sure do miss Bob's presence.

WTF? This the first game this year that we've not played complete @#$%& and all I find on this message board is complaints about how much the Tigers got away with? Sheesh, some of you guys need to get a touch of perspective and look back two months at how woeful we were.

Manu's hit was fine. Fully commited, used the arms (though Bowden bounced hard). He actually rarely makes an illegal tackle, certainly no more than a lot of players. Well played Bowden for shipping the ball.

Have to laugh though about Tigers coming from the wrong side, slowing ball down, lazy runners etc as all teams do it. Penalise Tigers by all means but treat everyone the same.

Re Ben Youngs, I admit I don't always see things the same as non Tigers supporters but from the distant pictures all you can really see is BY trying to get away whi;e someone holds onto BY leg. Bound to fall onto your knees in that circumstance. As for the alleged punches they were handbags and probably missed.

Is there a case for the officials to answer, maybe some correctional training to bring them to the required standard? I ask only because it seems to happen all too often (not only to LI I hasten to add), yet those whose actions are instrumental in the progress of the match seem to carry on in their merry way regardless.

Ben Youngs should not have done what he did to try and get away from your No8 who clearly was hanging on to him off the ball. Also you N0 10 came steaming in after and throttled him? Stones in glass houses?

BigTigerBen Youngs should not have done what he did to try and get away from your No8 who clearly was hanging on to him off the ball. Also you N0 10 came steaming in after and throttled him? Stones in glass houses?

I didn't see the Youngs incident but I did see our 10 plough into him and thought we were lucky not to lose him for 10 mins for jumping into someone else's fight

Tuilagi's tackle was fine (hard but legal) except Bowden didn't have the ball in that move. It went from the player on Bowden's left to the one on his right who were ahead of Bowden. Bowden then got hit by Tuilagi as the ball went out wide, well away from him. Should have been a penalty for tackling without the ball, nothing else.

I can't believe that you lot were watching the same game as I was.
Firstly YBY didn't have the ball whilst he was being held, the ball was nowhere near him.
Secondly Manu tackled Bowden about a millisecond after Bowden shipped it to his left. At the clip Manu was moving there's no way in the world that he could have pulled out of his (perfectly legal) tackle.
And they say Tigers' fans are one eyed!

Ra - I was sitting only about 30 yards from the Ben Young incident and Gibson clearly tackled Ben Youngs and Youngs did not release the ball. Youngs then kneed Gibson and then laid at least 2 maybe three punches to Gibson's face. He is a petulant thug/ child and NEEDS to be banned.

paulm1953Ra - I was sitting only about 30 yards from the Ben Young incident and Gibson clearly tackled Ben Youngs and Youngs did not release the ball. Youngs then kneed Gibson and then laid at least 2 maybe three punches to Gibson's face. He is a petulant thug/ child and NEEDS to be banned.

He did all this while holding on to the ball? Whatever happened to quick service?

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Gibson clearly tackled Ben Youngs and Youngs did not release the ball. Youngs then kneed Gibson and then laid at least 2 maybe three punches to Gibson's face.

Odd then that they were the only two involved until your out half tackled Benny from behind (sorry heroically rescued his teammate from the unwelcome attentions of a man ten times bigger than him). You'd think that if Benny was holding onto the ball the focus of play would have been right there rather than a few yards further infield wouldn't you?

Stuart BarnesI chose three random newspapers to read online and the England scrum half garnered the headline in two of them and a second paragraph all to himself for the third. Not a mention of Jamie Gibson, other than the little matter of he being the opposing player holding the scrum half down with the ball in play elsewhere and Youngs desperate to keep up with play.

raNope, speaking with the benefit of slo mo replays (several times)
looks like the Lardy one agrees with me too

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Stuart BarnesI chose three random newspapers to read online and the England scrum half garnered the headline in two of them and a second paragraph all to himself for the third. Not a mention of Jamie Gibson, other than the little matter of he being the opposing player holding the scrum half down with the ball in play elsewhere and Youngs desperate to keep up with play.

I've just watched the highlights. While Youngs is going at Gibson (which is to say, while Gibson is holding on to him so he can't move), the ball is not in Youngs's hands, but in a ruck some way away, that being the ruck which Youngs presumably is keen to get to to do his scrumhalf duties instead of said duties being performed by Steve Mafi, who can clearly be seen holding picking the ball from the ruck, and holding it, when it all kicks off. Not saying Ben won't get cited and banned, but whoever it was saying it was all while he was holding the ball would appear to be talking toot.

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At the risk of labouring the point re the Bowden/Tuilagi incident. Dan did not have the ball when Tuilagi clobbered him. I found this quote interesting from the Guardian referring to the incident.

'Leicester, though, have finally got all their internationals back and take a lot of knocking over. They also hit hard themselves, a brutal, no-arms smash by Manu Tuilagi on Daniel Bowden just before the interval underlining the point. Cockerill felt it was entirely legal - "It looked nastier than it actually was" - but it was reminiscent of the high shot which saw Bath's young fly-half Tom Heathcote invalided out of the game by Maurie Fa'asavalu at Harlequins on Saturday. The game cannot afford to turn a blind eye to crude shoulder-height tackles if it is to remain a sport for all sizes.'

Tuilagi tried the same thing on Sexton at Twickenham. Rugby is without doubt a rough game. But for coaches to legitimise this style of play is at odds with the whole ethos of the game. American football it ain't.
Perhaps it was just a welcome to Leicester handshake.

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