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It gives you the option to disconnect the top fan and close the top vents, which is actually important for some people - if you own a cat, it'll love sitting on the top of your warm PC. Top vents aren't always a blessing.Reply

I cant agree more with you. Disconnecting the fan and closing the vents is what I would do. I might even put some sound dampening material undernit it. From my experience with mini P180 are horrible for acoustics - I can hear the airflow from every single fan inside my case. Reply

It could also be so that you can close the vents when powered off to prevent dust or the aforementioned pet hair/liquids/etc from getting inside. Sure it might be cool if they auto opened when powered on, like some sort of jet exhaust, but it's only cool until it breaks.Reply

I have no doubt that the Rosewill case is superior to the HAF X. Almost every Coolermaster case I ever bought had untapped screw holes and poor tool-free mounts; most had minor panel misalignment and/or other QA issues. I've switched to Rosewill cases, and have not found any of these (admittedly trivial) issues with any of them.I'm not a fan of huge cases (I'm not a madd overclocker, and don't run 1kW of GPUs), but if I were, this Thor v2 would be on my short list. There would be no Coolermaster cases on it; as nice as their designs can look, they are not well executed.Reply

Maybe Cooler Master's quality has gone down since I bought my Centurion 5, but I haven't had any issues with it. Admittedly, I haven't used a Rosewill case, and every case I've used prior to the C5 was off-brand and ranged from acceptable-but-not-too-good to just bad. But in the review here he states that the 5.25" drive bay locks in this Rosewill case aren't very good; I actually really like the locks in my C5. Then again my standards are probably substantially lower than Dustin's. The only toolless element of the C5 that could use improvement, imo, is the expansion card clip holder things. They're not completely useless but I wouldn't trust them if I was putting in a robust (read: heavy and expensive) GPU and/or moving the computer around a lot.Reply

I disagree. In fact, I think CM has went up in quality more than down. I use a 690 ll advanced, admittedly not a top end, and I have no issues whatsoever. Sure, you might run into problems with any case but there are zero alignment issues or anything of the sort. I haven't run into tap problems but that could be an issue on any case and is remedied pretty easily. I like my minimalist case look better than the HAF as well. The Thor looks okay but really not my kind of case and way beyond my needs lol.Reply

I'm not in the market for a case like this, but I do like the top-mounted ports. I currently have a P182, which I keep on the floor. It has the USB ports sticking out at a right angle on the lower half of the front bezel, and when cables are plugged in, it's just way too easy to trip over them and pull out the cables or damage the ports. I actually broke one of the ports once this way. Fortunately Antec sells replacements, but I'd rather have the front ports up off the floor in a more protected position.Reply

I saw at the beginning of the review that you stated this arena was typically the forte of brands such as Antec, Silverstone, Corsair and Lian-Li. All those brands are represented as comparisons in your review, save for Lian Li. I was curious how this case compared to the lian Li offerings, particularily the TYR-X2000, or X2000F (USB 3.0 version.) I have been using the stateside version of the TYR-X2000 in the form of the ABD Canyon 695 for some time now, and was wondering how this case compared to the far more expensive Lian Li cases. Perhaps we'll see that in subsequent reviews?Reply

For the life of me, I cannot imagine how Anandtech's temps are so high for the 650D. My builds is a full 20C- 40C cooler than the Anandtech build in the same case.

Also, THIS IS IMPORTANT, if you remove the top HDD cage the front 200 mm fan blows directly on the motherboard, GPU and CPU unimpeded. This makes a huge difference in cooling and most people don't need more than three HDDS/SSDs. I am guessing that if Anandtech took out the top HDD cage in their build that temps would drop at least 3C - 5C over all components.

Also, the case is very quiet on low fan and reasonably quiet on high fan. On low fan the case is almost inaudible (I hear the Noctua coolers fans as much as the case's fans). According to reviews, the case cools almost as well on low fan as on high fan.Reply

I was tempted to say something snarky because you're really comparing apples and oranges (mid-range AMD GPU vs. upper tier NVIDIA GPU) and didn't give your full parameters (ie, whether you used the same testing procedures and measuring programs/equipment that Dustin did) and it's been a lousy day, but to be honest you've (put together an envious build) really exposed the essential flaw of case reviews in general and AT's in particular, at least when it comes to temps and noise: Sandy Bridge chips are just that much better in the categories you'd measure when reviewing an enthusiast case than anything else on the market that you'd stick into a case like this (no one is going to buy a chassis like this and stick one of AMD's Bobcat chips into it, right?), and even though those are what's selling and in demand it's absent from the testbed.

Of course it could be worse, AT could be doing reviews with a Phenom II X6 for truly misleading results compared to the way it's almost impossible to find an article on here that doesn't praise SB's virtues (particularly their buying guides). Then again people were probably more likely to build a brand new rig (as opposed to cobbling together parts left over from other people's upgrades to SB) with that in it this year than the i7-875k.

The other factor that contributes to the high thermals in their reviews is the near reference model NVIDIA GPU, but I'm sure there are plenty of enthusiasts who savor the extra FPS in Crysis 2 (patched) compared to a 6970 so even though you can get lower profile versions of the 580 than that particular Zotac model I'm not going to quibble about it (though again the AT buying guides usually say something about the price to performance ratio being in favor of AMD cards). Hell if anything people who do buy cards like that are probably the ones who really need to worry about whether or not the case they buy can keep the card running below spec.

So that said, I can appreciate the "worst case scenario" that these reviews usually represent, but I just can't help but wonder how much differently they might have played out with components more representative of what people who follow sites like this and actually research their components to get the best fit for their needs (like the OP must have, and frankly I'd also rather save $250-300 and get a free game [Deus Ex ATM, Shogun 2 earlier in the year] by going with a 6950 than having the extra performance of a 580) would actually order.Reply

Everything that Dustin discussed regarding case features is equally applicable, regardless of the size of the motherboard.If they were to use one of the larger motherboards, the only change to the review would be something like:"When we used an E-ATX motherboard, fitment was a bit tighter."

You can look at the pictures in the gallery on page 3 and visualize how a board that is 90mm wider would fit. That would be true of any site that includes build pictures in their articles.

Since XL-ATX is not an industry standard, I wouldn't expect anyone to use it in reviews, but the same process applies.

Unfortunately, sites that are slanted more towards workstation/server systems, like 2cpu.com, are few and far between. They don't seem to review anything but finished systems.Reply

Rosewill is still Rosewill. I like the idea, and seems like it's layed out well. I want to go smaller with my next build though, not bigger. I want a quality case, Mid-Tower or smaller that is primally solid black. HEAVY focus on silent running. Built in handle would be really nice. As light as you can make it, Thermaltake used to have one that was "feather" light; I liked that one. USB 3.0 all the way around, no 2.0. No side vents or fans or lights or anything. Just front intake and rear exhaust, as large as you can make them. (for silence) Probably just gonna do one front fan, might not even need a rear fan with the PSU acting as an exhaust.

I like the idea of a top vent you can open and close. Open for better cooling close for more silence. Tooless everything. If I can get all this for about 100 bucks from newegg I'd be pretty happy.Reply

Now that you mention it the only thing missing from this review is Dustin's ubiquitous mention of how the BUC is a better proposition, so he must have really liked this case after all... Or maybe I just failed to read closely enough?Reply

with the original V2 I've had for close to a year has been entirely positive. I consider this to be the best case I've ever used for a build in its price range (and one or two more "upscale" in the past). I really like all the the ports for cable management (aside from the grommets, as has been mentioned). I have 2 graphics cards, 6 HD, a DVD burner, a card reader, and an add-on 3.5 USB3 front panel that came with my motherboard, and still have plenty of room unimpeded by the usual cable spaghetti if I want to add anything else, although I'm pretty maxed out of stuff I'd want to put in. Since this fits (barely) under my table I keep the top grille open so the cat's not a problem... I actually like the back-routed USB3 setup. The onboard header is used for the add-on unit, which gives me 4 front USB3 ports. I did notice from the beginning that the fan control system didn't seem to do much about noise levels, but I'm not that bothered by fan noise anyway. The stock fans included with the case provide enough cooling and airflow, with the cables all tucked away behind the motherboard, to keep all my temps generally in the low 30's at idle and about 15 degrees higher when I'm running games (Crysis, Rage, FC3, Borderlands 1 & 2,etc). The CoolerMaster Hyper 212 cpu cooler fits with room to spare. Asrock 990FX Extreme 4 with Vishera 6-core, 16GB GSkill 1866, and dual AMD 5775 cards (those are somewhat dated, but enough in CrossFire for me on my budget). I would buy this case again for any other full-tower system I'd want to build.Reply

I just received y Thor V2 in the mail last week, and it is a very solid, good case. Just a heads up, they did replace the USB 3.0 connector with an internal motherboard header, so I don't have to hook it up in the back, but directly onto the motherboard. Also, the rubber grommets feel very secure, and the fan knobs don't feel clunky, or loose. I believe they fixed your biggest complaints about the case.Reply

I've just purchased this case from Newegg. Bought it for its size and cooling capabilities. I do have one question that the article doesn't seem to answer. If the front USB cables do not connect to the USB 3.0 headers on the mobo how are they connected to the system and powered? Before reading this article mentioning that I thought I would absolutely need a mobo with USB 3.0 internal headers. To be honest I haven't looked inside it YET because the other parts to my new build are waiting on price drops from Newegg. It could be a slow process but this case and some other components came on Newegg as deals first.Reply