June 30, 2010

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So here's a bit more detail on his view, on an issue on which he said President Obama must "show the leadership."

"What I support is making sure that the federal government [plays] each and every one of its roles: Securing the border, enforcing immigration laws, and having an orderly process -- whatever that process is -- for people to gain citizenship."

He added: "It's a very easy issue to demagogue and I'm just not going to participate in that."

Christie said more resources -- specifically, "money" -- were needed to support federal law enforcement and border security, along with "having a clear understandable law that people can follow."

"Until you have both of those...you're not going to fix the problem," he said.

Christie also said he thinks state and local law enforcement don't have appropriate training to enforce immigration laws, and that it can distract from their overriding goal of keeping the public safe.

So Christie is a member of a party that revels in very strong rhetoric against immigrants, yet he says he doesn't want to demagogue. Of course -- others will do that for him. He gets to be the faux-"sensible" Republican. It's W all over again.

Obama show leadership!? fat chance! He prefers to be arrogant and a smart ass like Rep. Stark Mocks Border Security Advocates: Who Are You Going to Kill Today?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/29/congressman-says-borders-secure/

Posted By: Obama show leadership!? fat chance! He prefers to be arrogant and a smart ass like Rep. Stark Mocks | June 30, 2010 at 12:39 PM

Maybe we should turn to our history books and point out why today's American is not willing to accept this new kind of immigrant any longer. Back in 1900 when there was a rush from all areas of Europe to come to the United States, people had to get off a ship and stand in a long line in New York and be documented. Some would even get down on their hands and knees and kiss the ground. They made a pledge to uphold the laws and support their new country in good and bad times. They made learning English a primary rule in their new American households and some even changed their names to blend in with their new home. They had waved goodbye to their birth place to give their children a new life and did everything in their power to help their children assimilate into one culture. Nothing was handed to them. No free lunches, no welfare, no labor laws to protect them. All they had were the skills and craftsmanship they had brought with them to trade for a future of prosperity. Most of their children came of age when World War II broke out. My father fought alongside men whose parents had come straight over from Germany, Italy, France and Japan. None of these 1st generation Americans ever gave any thought about what country their parents had come from. They were Americans fighting Hitler, Mussolini and the Emperor of Japan. They were defending the United States of America as one people. When we liberated France , no one in those villages were looking for the French American, the German American or the Irish American. The people of France saw only Americans. And we carried one flag that represented one country. Not one of those immigrant sons would have thought about picking up another country's flag and waving it to represent who they were. It would have been a disgrace to their parents who had sacrificed so much to be here. These immigrants truly knew what it meant to be an American. They stirred the melting pot into one red, white and blue bowl. And here we are with a new kind of immigrant who wants the same rights and privileges. Only they want to achieve it by playing with a different set of rules, one that includes the entitlement card and a guarantee of being faithful to their mother country. I'm sorry, that's not what being an American all is about. I believe that the immigrants who landed on Ellis Island in the early 1900's deserve better than that for all the toil, hard work and sacrifice in raising future generations to create a land that has become a beacon for those legally searching for a better life. I think they would be appalled that they are being used as an example by those waving foreign country flags.

Posted By: Maybe we should turn to our history books and point out why today's American is not willing to accep | June 30, 2010 at 12:45 PM

All the illegal aliens that are here should never be rewarded with citizenship EVER! If they're not criminals, have jobs, they can stay after paying a penalty, learn our language, learn about our history, but they can never ever get the right to vote as a citizen. That needs to be the penalty for sneaking in here. They can never become citizens EVER!

Strong rhetoric against immigrants?
Hardly. You dumb ass libs keep forgetting to include the word "illegal", which matters.
Christies position on this matter is exactly the same as 90% of republicans and conservatives.
November INCOMING you losers.

If we had a dollar for every lefty who will omit the word "illegal" from their comments (it should go in front of the word "immigrant", guys), we could put a hefty dent in Obama's deficit.
Gosh, is it any wonder that the blue districts are the ones with so much crime...?

This is a little different than was cited in the full article. The full article: " He said that without border security, enforcement of existing laws and a “clear” path to legalization for immigrants, there would never be a fix."
This makes it sound like he is talking about some version of amnesty, when in fact his direct quote seems to be referring to immigration policy, period. It seems to me like someone was trying to put words in his mouth....and good call to those who chose to question that.

"Again, Christie must pay lip service to amnesty shills in the northeast. "
Exactly. Any time a Republican does not take the most conservative of conservative views on any issue, they're just faking it. They know where their bread is buttered.

After reading these comments I come to realize than you get use to reading crap day in and day out it becomes the norm, so when someone comes along and talks simple honest sense after a new norm has been established in the readers it looks and sounds like crap now. We need a THINKING REFORMATION IN AMERICA. I never seen so many people buy into assumptions and nonsense every in my 63 years of life!

Another, liberal that wants to reward 15,000,000 to 20,000,000 foreign, chronic lawbreakers with AMNESTY and cheap, American citizenship.
This line of BS is enraging more and more real Americans every day.
It's what put George Bush out of business for keeps. It's political poison.

Here's a news flash for some of you. The Arizona law is not about rounding up illegal immigrants. It's about good law enforcement. Christie is right. Local cops aren't trained in enforcing immigration laws. Their job is public safety. Arresting a burglar who happens to be an illegal immigrant enhances public safety.

Posted By: Here's a news flash for some of you. The Arizona law is not about rounding up illegal immigrants. | June 30, 2010 at 01:09 PM

Everyone knows America has perfectly good, immigration laws. America had "comprehensive immigration reform" back in the 1980s with a mass amnesty attached.
AMNESTY is a proven failure as a reform measure. Rewarding illegal "immigrants" just produces ever more illegals.
There were about 4,000,000 illegals that got amnesty in the '80s and today we have 15,000,000 to 20,000,000 more illegals waiting for some sucker president and congress to reward them with the same.
The only way to stop the mass invasion of America by these aggressive squatters is to remove all hope of jobs and AMNESTY.
Do this and the illegal immigrant plague will be wiped out.

Take 13,000 jobs and divide it by 50 (states) that = 260 jobs per state. Obama and company have for 18 months been been destroying the economy for this crap! Recall the smart, articulate Obama said we have 57 states, imagine if that were indeed the case that would be even worse...approx. 228 jobs.

Posted By: Take 13,000 jobs and divide it by 50 (states) that = 260 jobs per state. Obama and company have for | June 30, 2010 at 01:15 PM

There is *no* "talking out of both sides of his mouth" here. Those who claim so should improve their English comprehension and read more carefully.
"...having an orderly process -- whatever that process is -- for people to gain citizenship..." refers to making our Naturalization process more consistent; it does *not* mean "make illegal aliens American citizens," as much as the Democrat Party wishes.

Ben Smith continues to be a hack. If he were a real reporter, he would have asked Christie about that quote, such as walking him through what would happen after what he supports passes. If Ben Smith were a real reporter, he would have asked who would get power under Christie's scheme and who would lose power. About the only good thing I can say about Ben Smith is that he's a great transcriptionist.

Any state or local cop untrained to enforce immigration law has only his Mayor or Governor to blame, since ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) has a program to train those personnel, and has done so in hundreds of jurisdictions across the country.
Get with the program Governor!
Who knows, your cops might discover the next spy ring because of their immigration-law training.

Why is what Christie said controversial? I don't see anything wrong with his stance or requirements for more money for border enforcement. Protecting the country is something the Constitution requires. I mean, libtard idiots such as the "Republicans talking out of both sides of their mouth" commenter can't seem to grasp conservatives aren't against government at all. We just want the Feds to act within the confines of the Constitution and State and local to do the same. Comprende? Go Chris Christie!

So Christie didn't really take a position "...more closely aligned with some centrist Democrats on issues such as immigration..." (as reported in the earlier story) but simply identified three aspects of the illegal immigration crisis that require attention, and specifically avoided any comment on which process to obtain citizenship (amnesty, waiting in line or something else) should be adopted. Why the distortion in the earlier story?

"Carl, you are confused or willfully misinterpreting the issue. Immigrants are good. Illegal immigrants are not good."
So that's why even Christie himself criticizes "demagoging"? Apparently even some of the supposed stars of the GOP feel their party has blurred the line.

Direct quote: "having an orderly process -- whatever that process is -- for people to gain citizenship." Which is the opposite of what the Tea Party GOBP racists like Jan Brewer and Rand Paul are saying. No one is going out of their way to divide the Republican Party.