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The problem with Shaq would be that he's not guaranteed to make either of his FT's if he got 2. 50% is over the course of a season doesn't mean every 2 he gets, he makes 1 of them.

I'd be worried he'd miss both!

Originally Posted by Chronz

This is 100% incorrect, thats precisely what it means.

No it doesn't mean that and isn't incorrect. I don't know if i'm not explaining it clearly enough or you just don't get it. If Shaq got fouled for a final shot, clock basically expired and he needed to make 1 of them to win, there are no guarantees he makes 1 of them.

In this situation, there are 4 possibilities. He makes both OR misses both OR Makes 1st/misses 2nd OR Misses 1st/Makes 2nd. 25% chance he nails both, 50% he makes 1 or the other and 25% he bricks both.

Just because he's 50% for the course of a season/career, doesn't mean 1 of those 2 is a guarantee, just the statistical likeliness. The same risk is there for Shaq missing both FT's than it is MJ/Kobe/Bird to miss their shot. Therefore, the argument for a dominant big who can't make FT's is floored.

It could actually be argued that the 25% likelihood of not getting a single point is less of a risk than a 50% FG chance as it's twice as likely the player attempting the FG doesn't get a single point. This would be weighted slightly however due to possibility of player being fouled on FG attempt.

No it doesn't mean that and isn't correct. I don't know if i'm not explaining it clearly enough or you just don't get it. If Shaq got fouled for a final shot, clock basically expired and he needed to make 1 of them to win, there are no guarantees he makes 1 of them.

Ill get back to you on this

"It’s absolutely ludicrous” (to judge players based on whether they’ve won a title.)

There have been other guys not HOF types that killed it also...Tim hardaway comes to mind. Reggie miller, John Stockton, Larry bird, Nash, Kobe, melo, and wade are all guys I want taking the last shot and all HOF players.

Definitely NOT Shaq. How can people bring his name up? I love Shaq. I Still have is Magic and Lakers Jerseys in my closet. However, their is a reason the Lakers would go to him the 1st 3 quarters and then Phil Jackson would let Kobe control the 4th.