In zulaman yes the trash is easier then the boss, on the dragonhawk boss i always expect a wipe since most of the tanks dont know where to be when.In zulgurub Jin'do is usually a wipe, the cat lady is usually a pain too, but appart from that its not that hard. cutting to the chase,easy for premades,hell for pugs

Trial wrote:In zulaman yes the trash is easier then the boss, on the dragonhawk boss i always expect a wipe since most of the tanks dont know where to be when.In zulgurub Jin'do is usually a wipe, the cat lady is usually a pain too, but appart from that its not that hard. cutting to the chase,easy for premades,hell for pugs

So it's... essentially exactly the same except 5 people instead of 20/10.

ZG has fight mechanics reworked Cata-style.ZA is essentially scaled down a bit for 5man without reworking mechanics.

They are intresting and more challenging than "normal" heroics especially if you want that "new" ZA bear run - 15 mins to complete."New" because as far i know bear you get from this run looks diffrerent from old one.

Marcis wrote:ZG has fight mechanics reworked Cata-style.ZA is essentially scaled down a bit for 5man without reworking mechanics.

They are intresting and more challenging than "normal" heroics especially if you want that "new" ZA bear run - 15 mins to complete."New" because as far i know bear you get from this run looks diffrerent from old one.

Wouldn't surprise me. The Amani Warbear has turned into a trophy among players, they'd flip their shit if Blizzard just put it back in like "WELP

ZG isn't really a redo, it's just a new dungeon in a farmilar place, the bosses are nowhere near the same, cept maybe bloodlord, but beyond that the fights are quite a bit diffrent, I was also always a fan of ZA, thus I am glad they didn't butcher it by trying to rework it. I like both instances, when you don't have pvp geared scrubs thinking that because they can queue for it, their ready for it.

A wise man once said, to never underestimate the potential of human stupidity. Myah~ ;3

Resilliance is a dead stat though, any stat is better then resilliance for PvE. I wouldn't attack someone over one peice, but when you have a DK "Tank" in 5/5 Epic pvp gear, and having nothing but pvp gear on gemmed for Stamina, you start wanting to stab people <_<

A wise man once said, to never underestimate the potential of human stupidity. Myah~ ;3

I'm happy about them revamping ZA/ZG for 85s. I started playing WoW mid-Wrath and I never got to experience anything besides Naxx, Ulduar, and ICC. Pugging into ZA/ZG as a 5-man is fun because I get to see a zone that was out-dated when I started playing.

I hope that Blizz does something with the Outlands; Nagrand and Zangarmarsh are really pretty.

"I will not port you here or there, I will not port you anywhere. I will not port you, though I can, I will not port you to Dalaran."

Skippyninja wrote:I'm happy about them revamping ZA/ZG for 85s. I started playing WoW mid-Wrath and I never got to experience anything besides Naxx, Ulduar, and ICC. Pugging into ZA/ZG as a 5-man is fun because I get to see a zone that was out-dated when I started playing.

I hope that Blizz does something with the Outlands; Nagrand and Zangarmarsh are really pretty.

You poor soul.

Personally I hope they leave Outland as it is. That'd be like taking the best part of WoW and ripping it apart in front of all those who enjoyed it D':

Skippyninja wrote:I'm happy about them revamping ZA/ZG for 85s. I started playing WoW mid-Wrath and I never got to experience anything besides Naxx, Ulduar, and ICC. Pugging into ZA/ZG as a 5-man is fun because I get to see a zone that was out-dated when I started playing.

I hope that Blizz does something with the Outlands; Nagrand and Zangarmarsh are really pretty.

You poor soul.

Personally I hope they leave Outland as it is. That'd be like taking the best part of WoW and ripping it apart in front of the seven people who enjoyed it D':

No. Outland sucks, and it always has, its fast to go through but I hate having to do the same crap every time I level a new character.

Skippyninja wrote:I'm happy about them revamping ZA/ZG for 85s. I started playing WoW mid-Wrath and I never got to experience anything besides Naxx, Ulduar, and ICC. Pugging into ZA/ZG as a 5-man is fun because I get to see a zone that was out-dated when I started playing.

I hope that Blizz does something with the Outlands; Nagrand and Zangarmarsh are really pretty.

You poor soul.

Personally I hope they leave Outland as it is. That'd be like taking the best part of WoW and ripping it apart in front of all those who enjoyed it D':

You have no idea

You're right... knowing Blizz they'd tear it up without lube...

"I will not port you here or there, I will not port you anywhere. I will not port you, though I can, I will not port you to Dalaran."