pens#1 wrote:There's a lot of doom and gloom in regards to Neal which I get but with that said a lot of players come back within 7-10 days. I'm hing Neal is the same, I would guess he wouldn't be tweeting if it was really serious. Also remember last year when he was out for 6 weeks with a broken foot and then was back the next day.

Sure, it does not seem that serious. It just would be nice to once in a while be able to enjoy a game without having to worry about some player going to the locker room and not returning.

Shakes wrote:It's sad that one could say that this season actually has been a bit luckier than the last few. I'm presuming that at least Sid, Martin, and Letang, 3 of our 4 or 5 most valuable players, will come back strong for the playoffs. I'm staying optimistic on Neal.

I tend to be in a Pens bubble, but it does seem like we've had it bad.

The Pens have definitely had worse luck than most teams with injuries for the past few seasons. But remember that in the past 15 years the Pens have dressed Lemieux, Jagr, Crosby, and Malkin. Many (if not most) teams have never had a player as good as any of those four in their entire histories. So let's not whine too hard over our misfortune.

I didn't see the past couple of games. Is there video of this hit. A lot of people saying an elbow to the head was involved. Also did not see any announcement on the NHL website in regards to a suspension, so just curious how bad the actual hit was?

Inkio wrote:I wasn't able to watch the game. Any video on the hit yet?

PensHckyFan79 wrote:I didn't see the past couple of games. Is there video of this hit. A lot of people saying an elbow to the head was involved. Also did not see any announcement on the NHL website in regards to a suspension, so just curious how bad the actual hit was?

First time I saw it. No reason for any kind of hearing for that. The penalty was adequate. Del Zotto is not a good enough skater to turn around and use the elbow all the way across his body to connect with someone's head. In fact, no one is.

Idoit40fans wrote:First time I saw it. No reason for any kind of hearing for that. The penalty was adequate. Del Zotto is not a good enough skater to turn around and use the elbow all the way across his body to connect with someone's head. In fact, no one is.

GeoTank wrote:If players are held responsible for what their stick does even if another player lifts it into his own face why shouldn't he be responsible for his elbow?

Ask yourself this question, if it was Matt Cooke and not Del Zotto would there be a penalty and suspension talk? answer... yup

there would have been a penalty called if the ref actually saw what happened.

This wasn't away from the puck, what is he watching then?

When I saw it live it looked to me that Neal skated into Del Zotto not Del Zotto taking a hit at Neal.

Del Zotto did the same move Morrow did a few days before where going into the puck he stops to get the puck and then basicly checks the incoming player with his back before getting checked himself. Del Zotto however throws out the chicken wing to make sure the incoming player can't get around him by making himself "wider" and knocks Neal out cold. Did he aim to hit him in the head, nope. Was he careless with his elbow, yup. Was it a hit to the head... Ya.

GeoTank wrote:If players are held responsible for what their stick does even if another player lifts it into his own face why shouldn't he be responsible for his elbow?

Ask yourself this question, if it was Matt Cooke and not Del Zotto would there be a penalty and suspension talk? answer... yup

Thats a problem with the league going after players with reputations rather than the other way around.

This. The past offender thing is nice and all, but they don't like to create NEW past offenders.

That said, the Del Zotto play is still not suspendable. Penalty sure. I like the idea of careless with your body should be a penalty (elbowing should have been called on the Del Zotto play, at the very least interference, but alas the NHL refs "let the boys play" and the players seem to generally want that attitude, so whatever)

GeoTank wrote:If players are held responsible for what their stick does even if another player lifts it into his own face why shouldn't he be responsible for his elbow?

Ask yourself this question, if it was Matt Cooke and not Del Zotto would there be a penalty and suspension talk? answer... yup

Thats a problem with the league going after players with reputations rather than the other way around.

This. The past offender thing is nice and all, but they don't like to create NEW past offenders.

That said, the Del Zotto play is still not suspendable. Penalty sure. I like the idea of careless with your body should be a penalty (elbowing should have been called on the Del Zotto play, at the very least interference, but alas the NHL refs "let the boys play" and the players seem to generally want that attitude, so whatever)

I personally agree it should have only been a penalty, but a penalty is the very least. I would have liked Shanny to get his little video player out and explain why it shouldn't go further. There should be a lot more of those "this is why we didn't take further action against player name here"". I'd have liked him to explain to the league why Kunitz's boarding call got no further action last week, i can give many reasons why but other teams fans dont see it. Now the reason they won't is becouse that would define these penalties more, making the fan more educated to what is and isn't a good call and then their inconsistantsies (sp??) would be too obvious.