What will it take for the climate movement to move beyond statements of solidarity and advance a strategy of targeted divestment from racist institutions, in order to reinvest those resources—and many more, besides—in communities of color?

Mary Annaïse Heglar talks to Kate and Daniel about climate grief; why we don’t have to choose between caring about police violence and caring about the polar bears; and why Bernie Sanders’s campaign message didn’t resonate with many (especially older) black voters.

On this week’s show, Kate and Daniel talk to Jedediah about his vision of commonwealth politics; the challenges of organizing in a socially distanced world; where the law fits in; and whether coming together also means naming new enemies.

On this week’s show, Kate and Daniel talk to Astra about what the coronavirus pandemic has to do with eating meat, whether we really need a technocratic savior, and why debt relief is inherently tied to democracy.