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Samuel Naffziger pointed out that it was a high risk to bet on this untested technique but in the end amd win and now amd earn 10% more clock speed for free with the same power consuming.

in may point of view this and ZRAM makes it possible for amd to beat intels 22nm cpu with a 32nm process.

LOL Qaridarium, "amd comeback" indeed, Cyclos's "resonant clock mesh technology" finally licenced by AMD after ARM already partnered with Cyclos in the early days (now you know one of the reasons why AMD were at the ARM venues and part of that PR) is for lowering the power envelope OR increasing the clocks as a side benefit, and lets be honest here AMD FX-Series FX-8150,Piledriver and all the rest need all the help they can get to lower the power and hopefully speed up the data throughput for a given watt even if they managed to slightly hand optimise the slow throughput "auto design" errors noone at amd bothered to correct the first time around.

i really cant beleave your still falling for the AMD PR innovators sale pitch today, sure they can advertise 4.6ghz as a valid Number due to this 3rd party licencing deal, and they are first to use it commercially rather than ARM, they have their constantly evolving version sat on a tech bench waiting for the right time to put it into production, might as well let amd go through the pain of ramp up, "Cyclos announced a proof of concept processor implementation based on the ARM926EJ-processor in 2008 under the name "Project Elizabeth" along with the availability of design tool support."

but ARM dont need to bring down the (milli)watts as a priority, AMD sure do today compared to intel, but thats beside the point , AMD are using this (anyone can)license tech today as it allows them to recycle more product from their yield waffers as in some cases yields actually improve when using resonant clock meshes with better power savings rather than generic clocks today, and even if that wasnt the case, as dan (ganousis) CEO of cyclos says "Most design teams today are quite happy to accept a small yield penalty in exchange for 10% total power reduction anyways."

and whats your point with Zram, everyone knows MRAM is faster,cheaper and better ,plus already in commercial production OC for the longer term

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LOL Qaridarium, "amd comeback" indeed, Cyclos's "resonant clock mesh technology" finally licenced by AMD after ARM already partnered with Cyclos in the early days (now you know one of the reasons why AMD were at the ARM venues and part of that PR) is for lowering the power envelope OR increasing the clocks as a side benefit, and lets be honest here AMD FX-Series FX-8150,Piledriver and all the rest need all the help they can get to lower the power and hopefully speed up the data throughput for a given watt even if they managed to slightly hand optimise the slow throughput "auto design" errors noone at amd bothered to correct the first time around.

i really cant beleave your still falling for the AMD PR innovators sale pitch today, sure they can advertise 4.6ghz as a valid Number due to this 3rd party licencing deal, and they are first to use it commercially rather than ARM, they have their constantly evolving version sat on a tech bench waiting for the right time to put it into production, might as well let amd go through the pain of ramp up, "Cyclos announced a proof of concept processor implementation based on the ARM926EJ-processor in 2008 under the name "Project Elizabeth" along with the availability of design tool support."

but ARM dont need to bring down the (milli)watts as a priority, AMD sure do today compared to intel, but thats beside the point , AMD are using this (anyone can)license tech today as it allows them to recycle more product from their yield waffers as in some cases yields actually improve when using resonant clock meshes with better power savings rather than generic clocks today, and even if that wasnt the case, as dan (ganousis) CEO of cyclos says "Most design teams today are quite happy to accept a small yield penalty in exchange for 10% total power reduction anyways."

and whats your point with Zram, everyone knows MRAM is faster,cheaper and better ,plus already in commercial production OC for the longer term

wood??? i write nothing wrong and you turn it into a hate speech.. LOL

you appear happy that a larger ghz number is involved as the reason and the basis for your so called amd to "come back", not the real reason why Cyclos's resonant clock mesh technology is really interesting, and that is all this is "interesting", not something to base a so called amd comeback on, its that simple, dont go reading anything more in to it.

you really compare volatile memory to non-volatile memory

again you miss the point, ill spell it out, volatile memory needs constant power to refresh it, non-volatile memory does not, mram is as fast and durable as generic volatile memory dram today and its in production now,the only downside right now is density.

will it become the standard everywhere to lower the ram power budget, perhaps not, but it does stand a chance sure, one things for sure the industry as a whole needs something right now to replace the crap write cycle endurance of solid-statememory/NAND-based flash memory and their currently best 533-megabit-per-second DDR interface NAND device implemented in sub-20-nm technology

you appear happy that a larger ghz number is involved as the reason and the basis for your so called amd to "come back", not the real reason why Cyclos's resonant clock mesh technology is really interesting, and that is all this is "interesting", not something to base a so called amd comeback on, its that simple, dont go reading anything more in to it.

Yes I'm happy abour more GHZ and why does this technique does not help amd to "comeback" ?

again you miss the point, ill spell it out, volatile memory needs constant power to refresh it, non-volatile memory does not, mram is as fast and durable as generic volatile memory dram today and its in production now,the only downside right now is density.

no i don't miss the point because ZRAM is the ram with the highest density ever! (and the energy consuming is very low)
so we are saying the same with different words.
you can use mram+zram!

will it become the standard everywhere to lower the ram power budget, perhaps not, but it does stand a chance sure, one things for sure the industry as a whole needs something right now to replace the crap write cycle endurance of solid-statememory/NAND-based flash memory and their currently best 533-megabit-per-second DDR interface NAND device implemented in sub-20-nm technology

sure MRAM are better than Flash.

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Well when you read the full article then piledriver will only save 5-10% energy. When you look at fx-61/81 that would mean that piledriver will use at max 1x w less, so still around 110w. When you look at ivb, then intel will use also less energy, from 95w to 77w (quad cores). And intel only needs 4 true cores to match that funny 8/4 core mix of amd amd definitely needs too much energy for the speed you get from it. in order to keep up with intel amd needs to rise the frequency way over 4 ghz. when you look at the single core speed then amd is not even faster than the i3 entry cpus (maybe even a higher clocked pentium g is enough). just by comparing an amd cpu vs intel cpu at same clock speed with cinebench in single core mode you should be able to interpolate the frequency amd needs to keep up with intel - just throwing more cores into the chip does not solve this basic issue...