looks like the cops in AZ are looking for a missing child. Hope they find her, but give me back my live feed for Gabe!

DevilsPlayThing

04-25-2012, 12:03 PM

Father of Logan { Baby Gabriel Grandfather } will take the stand today.

Should be taking stand today - Court ending early today. He is there tho and ready - so if not today - tomorrow.

DevilsPlayThing

04-25-2012, 12:14 PM

looks like the cops in AZ are looking for a missing child. Hope they find her, but give me back my live feed for Gabe!

http://www.kpho.com/category/224303/cbs-5-local-live-streaming

This link is very good for live stream. It broadcasts after others have stopped - showing the courtroom discussions with no jury present. Until the Judge says to go off record - then the stream is closed for the day - but other live streams have went off when jury exits I noticed.

Oh I just checked twitter. @InSession said they were about 30 minutes away and that was 25 minutes ago. Must start at 1:30 ET. Sheesh

momtective

04-25-2012, 01:36 PM

Just started on In Session.

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 01:42 PM

AZ fam.com link working thanks

strawberry

04-25-2012, 01:44 PM

Finally. Sheesh

http://www.kpho.com/category/224303/kphocom-local-live-streaming

strawberry

04-25-2012, 01:47 PM

What is a 403?

momtective

04-25-2012, 01:47 PM

403...404...404b...:doh: Is there an attorney in the house?

strawberry

04-25-2012, 01:51 PM

LOL trying to explain TS home business. I missed the beginning of this argument. TS was going to inseminate who with whose sperm? What?

strawberry

04-25-2012, 01:53 PM

http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rule_403

RULE 403. EXCLUDING RELEVANT EVIDENCE FOR PREJUDICE, CONFUSION, WASTE OF TIME, OR OTHER REASONS

The court may exclude relevant evidence if its probative value is substantially outweighed by a danger of one or more of the following: unfair prejudice, confusing the issues, misleading the jury, undue delay, wasting time, or needlessly presenting cumulative evidence.

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 01:54 PM

what difference does it make that the prosecution can bring up artificial Ins. in office or at home?

seattlechiquita

04-25-2012, 01:56 PM

I'm awake! I'm awake! I'm awake!

aaaawwww... DEFENDANT IS SAAAAAAAAAAAAAD. Well, too damn bad.

momtective

04-25-2012, 01:57 PM

Oh boo freakin' hoo...TPS's is upset! Cry me a freakin' river!

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 01:57 PM

I am glad she is crying now, not in front of the jury...dont feel sorry for her...she isn't smirking now. think she is crying cause they are going to allow the IUI in the home testimony?

strawberry

04-25-2012, 01:58 PM

OFGS now TS wants to call it a day because she's in pain and took a lot of pain meds.

saba

04-25-2012, 01:58 PM

Tammi's upset. The truth is upsetting. boohoo. Can't wait to hear this testimony.

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 01:58 PM

next delay will be TS going to the hospital......

strawberry

04-25-2012, 02:00 PM

What's I miss? She's sad? I hit mute because I was disgusted and thought she was going to say she was in pain. She said she was sad? She acts out and makes faces? What? Because of pain meds? I've had chronic pain and it never made me act out. What did she say??

strawberry

04-25-2012, 02:00 PM

Is she inferring TS is a loose cannon they can't control. I can't wait to see her now.

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 02:02 PM

she didn't start crying until the judge said they could use the IUI testimony (re: home not the office) office insemination not allowed. home ok-then she started crying and the lawyer said she has pain from a car accident last fall. anyone know anything about that?

strawberry

04-25-2012, 02:06 PM

The judge is finally getting irritated. Let's get on with it!

momtective

04-25-2012, 02:06 PM

next delay will be TS going to the hospital......

She's going to have a melt down for sure and delay this trial even more. As far as I'm concerned her pain doesn't even compare to what Logan and his family have been through.

strawberry

04-25-2012, 02:07 PM

she didn't start crying until the judge said they could use the IUI testimony (re: home not the office) office insemination not allowed. home ok-then she started crying and the lawyer said she has pain from a car accident last fall. anyone know anything about that?

Is she in the courtroom? I was listening while doing work but not watching. Did they have the pain med excuse ready? Were they talking about her having outbursts while she was sitting there?

seattlechiquita

04-25-2012, 02:08 PM

TS becomes less and less of a sympathetic defendant BY THE SECOND. She cries if we talk about her uterus? Woman grow up!! ARGHHH.

no straw, she wanted to to inseminate a client of hers, with her hubs sperm.

WHAAAAAAAAAAA???? no way!!! :sick:

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 02:22 PM

oh yeah, she asked this lady...not sure how many others she asked. Still researching. Freaking wackadoooo:what:

strawberry

04-25-2012, 02:23 PM

Is this a colonic client?

seattlechiquita

04-25-2012, 02:23 PM

oh yeah, she asked this lady...not sure how many others she asked. Still researching. Freaking wackadoooo:what:

That is effed up. She is now officially a sociopath in my mind. Or is it psychopath? Gross.

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 02:24 PM

yes, straw

strawberry

04-25-2012, 02:24 PM

We spend at least 45 minutes each session while she gave me a high colonic...#awkward

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 02:25 PM

OK so this isn't the IUI chick, since she had a hystro...but TS must of told her about it

strawberry

04-25-2012, 02:25 PM

That is effed up. She is now officially a sociopath in my mind. Or is it psychopath? Gross.

I was thinking the same exact thing. She was grooming her to carry her child. Sociopathic

momtective

04-25-2012, 02:25 PM

oh yeah, she asked this lady...not sure how many others she asked. Still researching. Freaking wackadoooo:what:

Poor Hannah....she will one day google Tammi and see what this woman is made of. I see major problems for Hannah as an adult coming to terms with how she was adopted by her grandfather and this <modship> woman Tammi whom she calls Momma. Poor Hannah.

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 02:27 PM

We spend at least 45 minutes each session while she gave me a high colonic...#awkward

I couldn't be friends with someone who gave me an enema!:rocker:

strawberry

04-25-2012, 02:27 PM

Wow they like to eat.

strawberry

04-25-2012, 02:28 PM

Well this testimony is much more interesting than GPS forensics. I'm nervous the witness is going to screw up and mention what she's not supposed to mention.

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 02:31 PM

haha his sperm! omg...she said it

seattlechiquita

04-25-2012, 02:32 PM

We spend at least 45 minutes each session while she gave me a high colonic...#awkward

"oh and get this... I just got a new turkey baster, check THIS OUT!" :floorlaugh:

seattlechiquita

04-25-2012, 02:33 PM

haha his sperm! omg...she said it

Hey don't hate.... he had NICE SKIN.... :floorlaugh:

"Hey so about Sam's sperm..."

"pass the pastries?"

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 02:34 PM

this poor witness.....feel for her. liking the judge much better!

strawberry

04-25-2012, 02:35 PM

I hope she keeps her insemination equipment separate from her colonic equipment.

momtective

04-25-2012, 02:36 PM

TPS sure is making some nasty faces....why isn't the judge doing something about that?

strawberry

04-25-2012, 02:41 PM

Wait she met a woman at a Jack in the Box and talked her into carrying a baby for her?

seattlechiquita

04-25-2012, 02:41 PM

I hope she keeps her insemination equipment separate from her colonic equipment.

Girl, gross!!! I like how you think :floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

strawberry

04-25-2012, 02:42 PM

TPS sure is making some nasty faces....why isn't the judge doing something about that?

I think the state would have to object? Maybe not

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 02:42 PM

think the Jack in the box baby was a different one

seattlechiquita

04-25-2012, 02:42 PM

Wait she met a woman at a Jack in the Box and talked her into carrying a baby for her?

She said she did. I think she was laying the ground for her to take Baby Gabriel, and the JIB encounter never happened.

OMG look at her face. Beeyatch is scary.

saba

04-25-2012, 02:47 PM

She said she did. I think she was laying the ground for her to take Baby Gabriel, and the JIB encounter never happened.

OMG look at her face. Beeyatch is scary.

It did happen- the woman was pregnant when she saw them in JIB. Their names are in the 2 part police report and I thought one of the couple might testify.

seattlechiquita

04-25-2012, 02:48 PM

It did happen- the woman was pregnant when she saw them in JIB. Their names are in the 2 part police report and I thought one of the couple might testify.

Oh, I see... Thanks saba!

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 02:48 PM

the JIB chick was pgt. and TS wanted to adopt- (that is what I got out of it) they were going to get the paperwork together, then she got gabe

strawberry

04-25-2012, 02:48 PM

At the airport, who brought up adoption first? I'm thinking it was TS?

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 02:50 PM

I wonder what the jury thinks about these faces TS is making? Shouldn't be allowed.

momtective

04-25-2012, 02:50 PM

I really like this witness, there is just an air of honesty about her. I hope the jury is seeing it. I hope they believe every word she is saying.

seattlechiquita

04-25-2012, 02:51 PM

Holy frekkin sh.... :what:

seattlechiquita

04-25-2012, 02:52 PM

totally off topic, but check out this smilie: :razz: EEEEWWWW.

Ok, I'll be good now :notgood:

momtective

04-25-2012, 02:54 PM

At the airport, who brought up adoption first? I'm thinking it was TS?

That's what I recall. I think she probably approached many women who were either pregnant or had an infant and just boldly asked them if they wanted to place their baby for adoption. jmo

indicat

04-25-2012, 02:55 PM

I wonder what the jury thinks about these faces TS is making? Shouldn't be allowed.

It makes her look even worse (if possible). I say keep it up. The difference in her demeaner and Logan's is astounding....I hope the jury takes a good look at that. Tammi has no creadibility.

strawberry

04-25-2012, 02:55 PM

So crazy woman met crazy woman and a baby is gone as a result.

strawberry

04-25-2012, 02:57 PM

I like this witness too.

strawberry

04-25-2012, 02:57 PM

No! No lunch break! I hate this time difference it's 3 here

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 02:58 PM

whoo hoo good witness-I am going to lunch also

momtective

04-25-2012, 03:00 PM

Mistrial?

CarolinaMoon

04-25-2012, 03:00 PM

Ah the usual mistrial business!

I just got here and have to leave soon. :(

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 03:01 PM

knew it was coming.....not gonna happen

momtective

04-25-2012, 03:02 PM

wheeeewww! No mistrial. :clap:

strawberry

04-25-2012, 03:03 PM

Ah the usual mistrial business!

I just got here and have to leave soon. :(

I know! CM asked for one every day in the FCA trial. BUT. One happened here recently. It was a pretty high profile case here too..

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/crime&id=8526279

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/crime&id=8530088

smokey

04-25-2012, 03:09 PM

did you see TS get her purse and walk out while the judge was still talking?
boy oh boy...this woman has a set ;)

strawberry

04-25-2012, 03:14 PM

did you see TS get her purse and walk out while the judge was still talking?
boy oh boy...this woman has a set ;)

Yeah! Besides being rude is she even allowed to do that? Seems she has to be present to hear everything!

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 04:37 PM

we are back!

strawberry

04-25-2012, 04:41 PM

we are back!

Do you have a live stream?

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 04:42 PM

yep its back up...def turn

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 04:44 PM

http://www.azfamily.com/video/?id=148713635&sec=507127

strawberry

04-25-2012, 04:48 PM

Is Tammi's "profession" one that needs a license?

momtective

04-25-2012, 04:50 PM

Oh please...where is she going with this line of questioning?

strawberry

04-25-2012, 04:50 PM

She is just repeating every thing the DA had asked? Why doesn't the DA object and say asked and answered?

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 04:50 PM

she is supposed to have one, she has been in trouble for practicing without a license

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 04:51 PM

sounds like either Tammi has lied to her lawyer or this witness is not telling the truth, cars? free treatment?

strawberry

04-25-2012, 04:51 PM

She just asked if she had received free medical treatment and she said no and the lawyer dropped it. Did she ask that knowing it wasn't true? Shady. TS looks just like a woman I used to work with..same smirk..she was a miserable person.

strawberry

04-25-2012, 04:54 PM

We've heard all this! She just verified every thing the DA said.

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 04:56 PM

anyone have a clue y the defense asked about the free medical and car? weird subject to bring up

strawberry

04-25-2012, 04:57 PM

Doesn't TS have older kids that she had nothing to do with? Why did she want a baby so bad if she couldn't be bothered with the older ones? Didn't she relinquish custody of them or something? I'm reaching back 2 years in memory here.

strawberry

04-25-2012, 04:58 PM

anyone have a clue y the defense asked about the free medical and car? weird subject to bring up

I guess to infer she had used TS and wasn't on the up and up?

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 05:00 PM

Big fail imo

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 05:01 PM

Doesn't TS have older kids that she had nothing to do with? Why did she want a baby so bad if she couldn't be bothered with the older ones? Didn't she relinquish custody of them or something? I'm reaching back 2 years in memory here. from what I have read she didn't give them up willing. there was a horrible custody suit with former hubs. the kids have said they didn't know why she wanted them, cause she was never around..blah blah I think she has 3 older ones

strawberry

04-25-2012, 05:03 PM

Does this guy have a man purse or is that gun holster?

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 05:05 PM

Does this guy have a man purse or is that gun holster?

u can't usually see a holster...so who knows?

seattlechiquita

04-25-2012, 05:08 PM

I'm back! :wave:

Did I miss something important?

strawberry

04-25-2012, 05:11 PM

I'm back! :wave:

Did I miss something important?

Not really. The cross exam was pretty much the DT restating all the questions from direct. On redirect DA did get the witness to say that TS was obsessed with getting a baby. This is an LE who either is wearing a man purse or a gun holster we're not sure.

strawberry

04-25-2012, 05:14 PM

Are they going to show us the myspace? I guess they are setting the foundation to do that...

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 05:15 PM

TS is rubbing her neck...I am telling ya she is gonna go to the hostpital and we are going to have to wait some more.

strawberry

04-25-2012, 05:15 PM

Aww TS's whilplash must be acting up she's rubbing her neck. This guy has a Yuri quality to him. :blowkiss:

strawberry

04-25-2012, 05:16 PM

You and I have been on the same page all day Leigh. :lol:

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 05:17 PM

we sure have!:woohoo: great minds think alike!

strawberry

04-25-2012, 05:21 PM

Now TS is doing the Casey eye-poke trick

strawberry

04-25-2012, 05:22 PM

Logan's dad?

seattlechiquita

04-25-2012, 05:22 PM

Grandpa is next.

what's his story?

strawberry

04-25-2012, 05:23 PM

Grandpa is next.

what's his story?

He strongly wanted LM to take custody of Gabe..was very mad that LM sort of backed off and agreed to joint custody

seattlechiquita

04-25-2012, 05:24 PM

He strongly wanted LM to take custody of Gabe..was very mad that LM sort of backed off and agreed to joint custody

:rocker: right on dad!

leighmarker

04-25-2012, 05:24 PM

he is a retired cop, he is the reason that Logan actually recorded conversations

seattlechiquita

04-25-2012, 05:32 PM

he is a retired cop, he is the reason that Logan actually recorded conversations

Cool. I don't like the shirt he chose -- looks like a prison uniform. But I like him.

strawberry

04-25-2012, 05:45 PM

What is with her and big rings?

seattlechiquita

04-25-2012, 05:54 PM

What is with her and big rings?

Inorite????? Hey TS! The 80's called... they want their looks back!

strawberry

04-25-2012, 06:23 PM

Aww I was hoping for a stinky squirrel striking at midnight

strawberry

04-25-2012, 06:25 PM

OMG these attorneys are so confused

seattlechiquita

04-25-2012, 06:30 PM

omfg this guy is a lazy SOB. seriously.

CarolinaMoon

04-25-2012, 06:39 PM

Grrr... why did today have to be the day I had to go out? Thanks for keeping me in the loop.

Grrr... why did today have to be the day I had to go out? Thanks for keeping me in the loop.

Egad, we're still on the GPS???? Sheesh.

ETA: At least I got to see TS' meltdown on HLN!

Oh man I missed it! I was listening when it happened but was at work and had another window up.

strawberry

04-25-2012, 06:45 PM

Tempe is pronoucned TemPEE? Huh

strawberry

04-25-2012, 06:52 PM

Oooh the claws are out between the lawyers. This guy is bright red.

saba

04-25-2012, 07:01 PM

Oooh the claws are out between the lawyers. This guy is bright red.

Whiners! Perfect for Tammi.

momtective

04-25-2012, 07:03 PM

OMG...complaining about freakin' blue ribbons the state is wearing to support victims rights! This is just too much..they are really reaching!!!

CarolinaMoon

04-25-2012, 07:04 PM

Geeze, I was hoping that the prosecution would bring up TS's facial expressions during testimony, since everybody's whining.

momtective

04-25-2012, 07:06 PM

I think the defense is feeling the waves as TPS is being drug under...they pretty much know their client is done for and all they can hope for is a major blunder by the State by which they can request a mistrial.

strawberry

04-25-2012, 07:06 PM

OMG...complaining about freakin' blue ribbons the state is wearing to support victims rights! This is just too much..they are really reaching!!!

What? I came in at the end of that..thought they were talking about ribbons the witnesses were wearing. Good grief

momtective

04-25-2012, 07:16 PM

Live feeds are down.

CathyinTexas

04-25-2012, 08:14 PM

I just had to interject here, oh my gosh! I was reading about Tammi's meltdown but hadn't watched yet, so I went and watched recorded In Session. This is getting good! I was surprised at how kind and understanding the judge was toward Tammi, and I think it shows she is very manipulative. Where is Jack??!!

MissJames

04-25-2012, 09:19 PM

So crazy woman met crazy woman and a baby is gone as a result.

Remember all throughout Caylee's case we kept asking how all these people find each other? JW ,DC,CA,JH,etc... It's like a secret society with a secret code so they recognize each other.
In this case TS was constantly on the lookout for young women who were pregnant or had a baby .

artsy1

04-25-2012, 10:34 PM

If I were on the jury, I would have wanted to ask DeeAnn:

When Tammi told you that Logan didn't want to give Gabriel up for adoption, did you say or do anything to try to convince Tammi to leave Gabriel alone?

If so, what was Tammi's response?

If not, why not? Didn't you realize how wrong that was?

MissJames

04-26-2012, 12:43 PM

If I were on the jury, I would have wanted to ask DeeAnn:

When Tammi told you that Logan didn't want to give Gabriel up for adoption, did you say or do anything to try to convince Tammi to leave Gabriel alone?

If so, what was Tammi's response?

If not, why not? Didn't you realize how wrong that was?

Good questions! I'd like to know the answers ,also.

TS strikes me as someone who comes across as a helpful friend who would convince others to confide in her. Then she would use those private discussions as weapons against anyone who didn't go along with her warped thinking.
It's clear to me that TS didn't care for anyone but herself. The babies were objects she coveted .It's scary and I can't help but wonder how far she would go. We hear horror stories about pregnant woman or newborn mothers who are murdered so an obsessed person can get their baby. The manipulations by TS ,disregarding the law and unafraid of providing the court with blatantly false documents has me convinced she might go there.JMO

Melanie

04-26-2012, 01:07 PM

Is there court today? I see the seal in the courtroom - maybe they're out to lunch.

http://www.azfamily.com/video/?id=148713635&sec=507127

Sleuths4Me

04-26-2012, 01:13 PM

I believe it starts in 15min? usually 1:30pm ET

leighmarker

04-26-2012, 01:18 PM

will they start onetime? anyone taking bets? lol

debloree

04-26-2012, 01:23 PM

Wow after all this time I finally get a day to watch this trial. I've been catching up here and on InSession. TS can't hide her nasty demeanor....Love it!