I love these absolutely normal people who come in contact with Scientology and are blown away by the weirdness. Patricia used to say, "Name one thing about these guys that isn't creepy" and it's SO TRUE. Sea Org/Body Routers--you are creepy!!!

So, here are couple of normal dudes who probably got out of the subway at Vermont and Sunset where the body routers park themselves, and how they viewed their experience.

What they were talking about in Scientology is called 8-C or eight-see, phonetically for 'effective control.' But what they're describing isn't
effective control. It's undue influence. The organization must be desperate if it is using that kind of pressure on people who haven't yet been
indoctrinated. Then again, people inside cults, such as Scientology, really don't know how cults work.

“Think wrongly if you please, but in all cases think for yourself.”
Doris Lessing