What car/engine is it Kev? If it's the 1.9td pug/citroen lump then glow plugs shouldn't be that expensive or difficult to change, I've done mine loads of times. Also, the cam belt is a little more tricky but again, still doable by yourself.

well ive been and priced it up for the parts for mr to do it and £50 will do until i get an engine sold out the shed then the money will go on mot and the rest of cars engine servicecant hold back on the diesel as i comited to it the other day as he will bring it up and save me 35.00 on diesel for the carmakes the engine cheaper to kev

Ianhw77k wrote:What car/engine is it Kev? If it's the 1.9td pug/citroen lump then glow plugs shouldn't be that expensive or difficult to change, I've done mine loads of times. Also, the cam belt is a little more tricky but again, still doable by yourself.

cam belts with the dowl kits needed ,i usually do it with drillbits and bolts pushed in the hole tight kev

Ianhw77k wrote:What car/engine is it Kev? If it's the 1.9td pug/citroen lump then glow plugs shouldn't be that expensive or difficult to change, I've done mine loads of times. Also, the cam belt is a little more tricky but again, still doable by yourself.

cam belts with the dowl kits needed ,i usually do it with drillbits and bolts pushed in the hole tight kev

My dad helped me with mine, he had some old bolts he adapted especially for that job when he used to be a mechanic full time. I do love that old TD lump, I think they never really improved on it.

If you're not doing it already, then stick a bit of 2stroke oil in with your diesel at about 100:1, it improves your fuel economy no end and seems to smooth out the engine and make it burn a lot cleaner

well heres todays progressBEFORE this is the sump as left from the first round of cleaningAFTER and this is it ready for reasembly DURING look at all the black crap in the fresh paraffin, filter and use again then use some new paraffin for the last washnow its ready for the last wash with new parafinand next the gears and govenoirs compartment, took me a hour to strip it down for the cleaningthen forgot to take a picture heres it almost back togetherthe fuel lift pump looks like it was made like it in the factory , works off the oil pump ecentric plunger ram heres the internal fuel pump with a stumpy little cam lope not seen one like this beforeso the fuel filter is washed out in parafin and can see through it just about in places dryed out ish and all reasembled ,high pressure pump and new oring seals fitted and cam piston back in blockoil filter is soaking but looks and smells newish run stop throttle lever is now moving again NEXT TO DO IS FLUSH OUT THE OIL SYSTEM BEFORE I GO TO FAR "forgot to do it like a dick "ready for the top end to go back on later today and the oil pick up pipe and gauze to go back on now looks like new also unlike in earlyier postskev

That must have took a few hours and a fair bit of paraffin to get that clean. I just use an engine degreaser on the outside as it's a bit cheaper then paraffin you must have a good deal on it the amounts you buy.

Stu.

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not really stui just filter it thought magnets ,funnel gauze then put toilet paper in onto top of the gauze and keep running it though then new paper ectthen when its stood for a day ,do it all again then the really fine stuff sticks in the bottom of the container and filter it all again,then this gets used for different levels of the washes ,and then only used for external cleaning before its finished withive used 2 ltrs to this engine with so far new is used for the final washing or items that have to be very clean then when filtered its clean for a second use as the fine carbon and particals are in the second time used parrafin and not the new as for buying the parrafin when i bought the jap 55 it have 3-4 gallons in the tank when i bought it and to old to used in an enginerecycle recycle ive only payed for 2 gallons of parrafin all season in the villiers 25PP,AMANCO PK / PP KEV

well i was getting on well bore bolted on ,piston in and bolted to crank head on rockers and piping all on got the grank handle on and stated to turn it over make sure valve timing was ok and valves opening ect when it stopped dead with a solid sound thought somthing had got in the cooling fins but nothing turned the engine around on the bench conrod hitting the camshaft so it looks like its all coming apart again to split the piston from the conrod, the swirl indents in crown are in the right place ,under the inlet and injector , just the conrod bearing cap hitting the cam so if on the other way should miss but then the swirl in piston will be on the exhurst side not my work the only bit i didnt assemble no workshop manual to do it with or pictured diagrams to copy apart from parts listsso back out now and start stripping it down again kev

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no petethe swirls in the piston crown were on the wrong side so would do nothing for the injected fuel and inlet are rushing togetherand i fitted the piston so there on the correct side againbut the conecting rod bolt head was hitting the camwell ive now striped it down knocked the conrod and piston appart turn one around and hammered it all back togetherjust got the piston and rings half back in the bore then got a mother of a migrain so bad it was almost making me sick had a nap and painkillers so back to just a head ache so off to shed i go shortlyand yes lads i have pics to prove its not my work kev

Foden wrote:I cant understand why the con rod should hit the camshaft Kev, it didn't when I had it, are you sure that the valves aren't hitting the piston? Did you get a bigend bearing sorted out then?

Pete.

ive been studying my downloaded 270 operating manualand it says in there leaded bronze bearing shells big end and phosh/bronze bush small endso the white metal must be wear and tear from the thrust washers so im going to risk it for a biscuit and seei have a 3rd villiers diesel on is way to me soon as he comes up to see "the same as you mate"just needs a rocker box and cover "so will wait and see what the outcome is on this and try make a great one out of three and a 2nd good one atleastthen sell on one or the other so i eather have spares or running spares kev

when me and pete bought the engine there was no head on the enginebut when i took the piston out to fit rings and deglaze bore put the piston back in so the crown swirls lined up with the injectors spray pathand then this is what happened laterhere the pics to prove the problemnuts on conrod cap hitting camshaftand piston is miles away from top dead when it stops moving well hrs later last night i got it all back as it was earlyer in the day but it now rotates all the way around and round without the bang

heres the gougeon pin and piston rotated 180 and conrod ready to go back same way round at this pointheres the piston and conrod after all this crown faces same way,and the conrod faces the otherand now goes to top dead center . and it has a shadow gap on camshaft now too whoop whoop and now off to bed calm and cool just 4hr behind kev

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well lads its all back into one big lump almost, well at least its starting to resemble an engine again but i want oil pumping and diesel squirting and then i want all four over and over induction,compression,fire exhurst "well smoke out" theres no exhurst yet just the airshroud and a few backets and screws now to completeoil filter has been washed and washed and washed to my times to rememberfinal washes were with petrol to get all the parrafin and what ever else will wash out and left to dry sat on a babys sock to suck it out the bottom and dry it better and fasteri had 3ltr oil of oil in my shed to fill the sump with as it says 2.84ltrs in for first oiling dry new enginemeasured it out so i new were to fill it up to when in us as there no dip sticks in themput in 2ltrs and 900mls in and shon a light in to see were it was,

and bugger me not even half way up the oil pick up gauze so got the manual out again spot the printing errorssales leflet says :-D270 3 1/4 pints/1.84ltrs lubricating oil DIESEL TANK CAPACITY 1 GALLOND415 5 pints / 2.84 ltrs SUMP AND FUEL TANK ALL IN ONE 1 1/2 GALLON the d415 sump/tank is BIGGER IN DEPTH BUY 3" TO THE D270 TANK /SUMP

well ive but the 2.84 ltrs in and about 1 1/2" below the oil gauze top so it would be 1 1/2" over if it was the smaller D270 tank baseso ive added another 500mls oil all i had left and still needs atleast another 1 -1 1/2 ltrs to be safe when the filter and pipes are filled upso if i add 1 3/4 pints or 1 ltr more oil it would mean that both books are wrong in one way or another i would think it should sayd270 5 pintsd415 6 3/4-7 pints 3.55 ltrs- 4 ltrs or fill it to the top like standard petrols for the new oil and filter changes the keep topped to over ledge of upper block base /top off sump trough ive put a gallon of white diesel in but only 1/4 filled the sump tank

nutgone wrote:BTW has anyone ever told you, either you stay up way too late or you get up WAAAY too early. I often look at the times on your posts & wonder if there's something I've misread.

That's something I've wondered about, at first I put it down to baby feeds etc but it's been like that for years. Also what time do you finish working in the shed/out doors as some of your pics look to be very late at night.

Stu.

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I usually try to come in around 10:30pm at the latest, as I'm usually in bed by 11:00-11:30pm. But I'm not an early riser, dunno if it's got something to do with my medical problems but I can sleep for England, apparently I will get even more tired once I start on treatment, don't think I'll be awake much if that happens!

I've always been a night owl, never been very good at getting up in the mornings. If I were living on my own I would probably be in the workshop til past midnight.

im out at all hours since i was made redundant and 2 babys aged 1 and 2 yrs and an ill wife so between poo patrol and juice and milk and my wife passing out randomly or megga sweats from the meds still cant find a job,or atleast close the deal in the interviews ,when i get one "not very common any more to find ,so i have to do more to help the wife out also bless herso i get about 6-7hrs sleep nowerdays ,as i was up at 7am for work ,streight to lifting heavy glass panels ect then drive to delivery or jobs from anglesey ,newark ,london summerset and of cause twice a week to sunderland 5 miles up from that blue bridge thingy me bobso not having anythink to wear me out like ive been used to i just cant get to sleep like i used tookevP.S its bloody cold to work on the villiers today -1oC all afternoon and now the air is like a pee soup "freezing fog" so my autheritous is to say the least stiff and painfullkev

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well its started to lift the oil from sump, cant get the fuel from the low pressure to the highso im draining the diesel out again and remove the internal fuel bowl and filter ,to see if the gaskets are all on the right way roundas one may of spun round in the sandwich of 3 gaskets and the 2 filter parts so see in a bit if this is the problem " im hoping so as lift pump is working well with loads of pressurekev

nutgone wrote:How's the big end? Any play you can establish??? I'm guessing not, as you've put it all together now.

Do you think we could have a running Villiers Diesel sometime soon???

Only make sure it's not 4:00am when you fire it up, eh? Got to think of the neighbours.

mattbeen watching the 5th twi-light with wife as shes one of the twi-hards as there called 2 1/2hr film will keep doing bits on it as and when i can now its been not over -1oC here for 4 days now and engine is to big for my heated 4 wall shed so now residing in a passage way so cold spanner numbed fingers are the problem now anyone would think it was december kev

_________________Engines are just like Pringles .... one is never enough. I used to love tractors all I would ever think/talk about. Then one day out of the blue I went on to statinary engines, So you could say I'm an extractor fan.