Silent Brass mute for Tenor Horn

I'd really like to buy the Yamaha silent brass system but unfortunately they don't make it for tenor horns. Bass trombone mutes generally fit pretty well inside tenor horns but I've been told by Normans that it might not be a 100% fit and therefore not do its job to its full potential. Has anyone tried a bass trom silent brass mute in a tenor horn and more importantly was it any good? I don't mind it not being perfect but it needs to be reasonably quiet (ie not going to wake my 18 month old up after bed time!) and I wouldn't want the tuning to be affected.

It would be helpful to hear if anyone has tried it out and what they think before I start trekking around to try before I buy.

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The normal tenor trombone silent mute system works and fits absolutely fine with the Soveriegn tenor horn. (But does make you sound like a trombone when listening through the headphones!)
I also know players who have got and are using the flugel system.
Like any 'silent' mute its not absolutely silent, but is certainly something I use when the kids are in bed and they wouldnt here it at all.

I bought a Silent Brass for my trumpet with high hopes. Nowadays I regularly use the mute bit but I never use the electronics box any more - it's way too much hassle to wire it up each time I need to use it. And I found the amplified sound quality to be ropey - too hissy for me, and the supplied in-ear headphones are cheap and nasty.
If I were spending money on a practice mute now, I think I'd consider one of the all-acoustic ones, like a Schmute. Or I'd just buy the mute part of the Silent Brass, as the intonation is pretty good, and forego the little black box. Just my tuppence worth...

Try http://www.bestbrass.jp/en/sound-t/e-brass.html as they have especially designed horn mutes. The designer is the guy who designed the Yamaha mute but this is supposed to be better. Could be quite costly but I'm told worth it. A lot of people here in Norway with them. Plus side is the mute is all in one...no electronic box to lug as well.

Try http://www.bestbrass.jp/en/sound-t/e-brass.html as they have especially designed horn mutes. The designer is the guy who designed the Yamaha mute but this is supposed to be better. Could be quite costly but I'm told worth it. A lot of people here in Norway with them. Plus side is the mute is all in one...no electronic box to lug as well.

Hope that helps.

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The e-brass mutes look impressive but I get the impression that the horn mutes are for French horn and not "proper" horn

From my humble experience from working in a music shop selling these things, and using them for years myself, the trombone silent brass mute should work fine on a tenor horn. They dont (unless its changed recently) make a specific bass trom silent brass mute so should be fine. Our band has used them before to good (and bad) effect at times and not enountered any probs.

The dennis wick practice mute is also quite good, but i always used to refer to it as more of a 'stamina' mute as its hard to play naturally on the instrument. Cheaper alternative to the Yamaha, but like most things there is a lot of choice out there.

Only other thing is that the silent brass does hook up to stereos etc for you to listen through the headphones, but most people i know who have or had one got bored of fiddling round with all the wires.

A warning. The old "dennis wick practice mute" (black thing with tiny holes in the end) is bad for your embrochure. No point practising if you cannot get the air out and your face is all ballooned up like a monkey. Might as well buzz into a pop bottle.

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Thanks for the responses, looks like a tenor trom silent brass mute might be the way forward. I'll try one out first just to be sure, as I was under the impression that tenor trom mutes in general are too small for tenor horns. Perhaps it's different for silent brass - I bow to your superior judgement/experience!

Has anyone tried a trombone best-brass warm up mute on a tenor horn? I own a Shhh Mute which is ok but isn't really quiet enough for my needs (I live with 3 unsympathetic housemates in a mid-terrace house). I just aquired one of the new wallace compact practice mutes http://www.wallacebrass.co.uk/tenorhorn.htm
and am very dissapointed. It doesn't fit inside the bell as advertised and is no quieter than the Shhh Mute. Perhaps it does not fit properly but this would be a serious design floor as the round-stamp sovereign horns (like the one I'm playing) are probably the most commonly owned ones in the UK.

Perhaps I need to bite the bullet and just make the noise but any other recommendations would be great!

Has anyone tried a trombone best-brass warm up mute on a tenor horn? I own a Shhh Mute which is ok but isn't really quiet enough for my needs (I live with 3 unsympathetic housemates in a mid-terrace house). I just aquired one of the new wallace compact practice mutes http://www.wallacebrass.co.uk/tenorhorn.htm
and am very dissapointed. It doesn't fit inside the bell as advertised and is no quieter than the Shhh Mute. Perhaps it does not fit properly but this would be a serious design floor as the round-stamp sovereign horns (like the one I'm playing) are probably the most commonly owned ones in the UK.

Perhaps I need to bite the bullet and just make the noise but any other recommendations would be great!

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I'm suprised you found the Shhh mute too loud, i've had no problems with mine and would recommend it to anyone. Certainly better than the Denis Wick one.....