Not trying to drum up a NDCC vs. NDT discussion...just curious if folks are happy doing business with Summit Racing for these Coker/Firestone military tires. Everything I've read leads me to believe that this is closest to the correct application. Is that assumption correct?

Well, The correct application would be the NDCC but this is the correct size. probably 75% of the people looking at the vehicle would not even notice the difference.And unless you are showing it for scoring it doesn't really matter. NOW, with all of that said, if you are looking for a tire that is safe and comfortable to drive on the street on a regular basis then you need to go with a civilian all terrain type tire.

Yes ,that's what I put on the A2, on the 151 it has NDT or maybe NDCC tires made in the 70's.20--25 MPH is generally my max speed(aw, maybe 10--15 MPH faster, but I have driven it at 55mph--60mph.One time I had a flat, the tire was pretty stout, I could have driven a lot further/the tire had stayed on the rim

Last edited by Mark on April 3rd, 2020, 6:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Yes, that's the square shoulder version I ended up with. Thought I had ordered the rounded-shoulder, but hey.....

Also ordered from Summit, got a pretty good deal overall.

We're "locked down" in California, but auto repair shops are exempt, which includes all of the tire shops around here. Double-check the Florida restrictions, as they have to identify exempt business types to keep society running even at a reduced level.

I think these are better off road than the NDCC's but on road they all are pretty bad. Get a good rainstorm after a long dry spell and your butt will be clinched onto the seat cushion as you slide all over the road.

Heard that 1" wifes tail center tread only thing since the 70's .Why is it then when you pull in the garage after a rain the print of the whole tire tread shows on the floor.? Someone wet a tire down and post a picture of the tread pattern on concrete floor.

Because that 1 inch stripe is the only thing with constant contact with the road. The bars are hit and miss. Trust me, many, many years of racing and when I feel uncomfortable because of sliding it is bad! The problem is that they do not recover like a normal tire, there is just nothing there to grip the road and regain traction once it is lost. If you start to slide sideways on a wet road then reexamine that patch on your garage floor and look at it from the side and thin of it as driving with tires that had a tread looking like that instead of the other way. There is essentially nothing at all there. The way you really get an idea of what the tire patch is is to jack the tire up off the ground and chalk the tread and then set it down and jack it back up and the mark that is left is what is actually touching the ground at any given time while you are driving. It is a lot less than what you are seeing when you drive in with wet tires trust me.

Not only that be some folks insist on running higher tire pressures to make the tire 'stand up' which makes the (already small) footprint even smaller! On "military" tires, pressures should be kept to a minimum, rather than to a maximum.

Not only that be some folks insist on running higher tire pressures to make the tire 'stand up' which makes the (already small) footprint even smaller! On "military" tires, pressures should be kept to a minimum, rather than to a maximum.

Cheers,
TJ

Not always so, remember that these are bias ply tires. As you lower the pressure they squat and the center of the tire actually lifts up a little from the road which in turn takes away that 1 inch stripe you were depending on! lowering tire pressures is ok for radials but Bias tires need to run at the recommended pressure.

I bought the NDCC tires from Summit and haven't had any issues. That being said, it really depends on what you plan to do with your vehicle. If you want a daily driver to use in all weather conditions, I'd go with an actual road tire like what was suggested. If you plan on taking occasional drives on nice sunny days or just attending car shows than I'd go with the NDCC tires.