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Poll: 57% support path to citizenship for illegals but 60% of Republicans oppose

Tellingly, a path to citizenship is backed by 69 percent of nonwhites, including 80 percent of Hispanics and 67 percent of blacks – groups that overwhelmingly favored Barack Obama in his successful re-election campaign. That falls to 51 percent of whites, who preferred Republican Mitt Romney by 20 points.

There’s also a sharp generational break in this poll produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates: Adults younger than age 40 – a group that decisively favored Obama over Romney in the election – back a path to citizenship by 67-30 percent. Support drops to a bare majority, 51 percent, among those 40 and up, a majority of whom voted for Romney.

Those differences underscore the challenges facing Republican Party leaders: Stay loyal to the policy preference of their party faithful and core support groups including whites, older adults and conservatives, at the risk of clinging to an inadequate support base; or seek to appeal to groups such as Hispanics, younger adults and moderates, at the risk of alienating the party’s core.

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The Left supports illegals for the Votes, bring in a brand new citizenry and disenfranchising the Indigenous population, in this case White Males.

The Right supports illegals for the Cheap Labor, bringing in a brand new work force that they don’t have to fund with benefits or pay taxes on, thus destroying wages of the Indigenous population, in this case White Males.

The Right supports illegals for the Cheap Labor, bringing in a brand new work force that they don’t have to fund with benefits or pay taxes on, thus destroying wages of the Indigenous population, in this case White Males.

I love how black support it when they are going to be the ones competing for the jobs these illegals take. Nothing if not predictable to see blacks voting against their own interest. Of course GOPer politicians are too..

For every illegal alien who wants to get legal — how ’bout repaying all the benefits you received while here illegally? All the emergency room visits, the cost of public-financed education, food stamps — not talking about general police protection or anything, just the things that personally benefited the individuals involved.

Then, how ’bout paying back-taxes and interest on anything earned in the US? All those side jobs, under-the-table arrangements….y’know, the stuff that paid the rent and kept food on the table — not to mention remittances to the family.

Just get those two little things straightened out, and you shouldn’t be any further from becoming a resident or citizen than anyone else.

Do you support a path to citizenship for an undocumented workers with arrest records?

Do you support a path to citizenship for an undocumented worker with a misdemeanor conviction?

Do you support a path to citizenship for an undocumented person that will collect welfare benefits such as food stamps?

The poll assumes all of them are otherwise self-sufficient, hard-working and law-abiding residents. Some are, but many aren’t. We know Obama’s policy will be as liberal as possible. Unless you are a convicted murderer or rapist you will get amnesty.

Frankly, they should be let in (in my opinion). They’re willing to work and we need tax payers since WHITE PEOPLE refuse to do any hard work. Even BREEDING is too hard for caucasions these days so it’s a bit stupid to pi$$ about keeping able workers out of the country when you’re too lazy to create your own.

By the way … I’m caucasion.

Now the second thing is … you got $crewed by the Republican Party Establishment too – and kinda (yes) got $crewed by Reagan. But then again – $crewed yourselves too by supporting people like WILLARD who believed the solution to the problem was …

“Self Deportation”

A COMPLETELY LAUGHABLE HYPOTHESIS AND YOU SHOULD HAVE CALLED HIM ON THAT ONE. Yet, I heard, and still hear – many HotAirians screaming about “self deportation”. LMFAO!!

The rest of you, why don’t you reward all criminals by setting them free the moment they committed a crime?
No more traffic tickets, no more anything. Let it all go laissez-faire.
Schadenfreude on April 3, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Steyn made a similar argument once. Don’t grant illegals amnesty, just make us all illegals.

This is because, once again, Republicans aren’t being smart about this. What really roils the Hispanic community is that their illegal members have to live in the shadows because they lack any legal status. They don’t care that the people are illegal both because of ethnic tribalism (which sucks) and because they think our legal immigration system is so awful that it’s illegitimate and unworthy of respect (which is largely true). I’ve seen statistics saying that 2/3 of Hispanics who hold green cards (i.e. fully legal, citizen-worthy immigrants) never bother to become citizens either because they don’t care to or don’t have time/ability to pass the citizenship exam.

So the way you solve this is by implementing a guest worker program that, after so much time, allows illegals to apply for green cards and get on the citizenship path. Then, you limit the number of guest worker passes to the number of jobs needed, and do strict employer sanctions for hiring illegals. This will cause jobs to dry up, since the biggest pull for employers to hire illegals is that they can pay below minimum wage, no tax withholding, no worker’s comp, unemployment, etc. Take that incentive away, jobs will dry up, illegals will self-deport (as they have been doing in large numbers already due to the economy).

There’s no welfare in Mexico. Or the other nations in Central America, for that matter.

The public education system in Mexico goes to something like our ninth grade, then they “graduate”.

The U.S. has illegal aliens, a majority of them from Mexico, because they get welfare and their kids also educated by the U.S. (along with housing subsidies, free food, school supplies, transportation incentives, just about everything necessary to live far above how they’d otherwise lived in Mexico and elsewhere).

Illegal aliens take advantage of U.S. welfare through a lot of crooked schemes (taxes is one of them — the “child credit” is the easiest and most profitable used) and is the driving force for their excess-birth-rates in the U.S. after they arrive here: the adults receive the monies/goods in the name of the children, thus, it’s all on the same table.

So my point of that was that illegal aliens aren’t going to “self deport” because they won’t — they live better here as illegal aliens than they do or did in their own nations.

Thus, they aren’t leaving, which is what I hear their battle cry is (“we aren’t leaving”).

They don’t respect our laws (“we aren’t leaving”), they don’t care that they do harms to others, they disregard our nation’s requirements, standards, and have gradually destroyed general respect all the way around for those standards and requirements.

Which is why I continue to support deportation of illegal aliens, which is enforcement of our laws. We as a nation really must make a point that our laws have integrity and we’re not a giant joke on the planet as a country with requirements of those who reside here.

Polls hardly ever ask the right questions. The last poll to actually offer all the choices, instead of the tired old false dichotomy of “We can’t deport grandma, so we should make her a citizen” (yes, I’m talking to you, Newt!) was this one. 50% of Democrats favor attrition, while only 36% of Dems favor amnesty. And independents are 60% and 24%. Reps are 62% and 22%.

And for all the idiots with their heads in the sand, listen to this illegal alien (sorry, Assoc. Press – make that ILLEGAL FOREIGN INVADER) explain how attrition through enforcement works so well when actually tried, as here in Georgia.

Tyson Chicken and United Fruit Company agrees. No E-Verify because that will make costs go up. Cheap Labor.

Bulletchaser on April 3, 2013 at 12:39 PM

I agree that some on the right like the cheaper labor, but not enough to categorize the “right” as being for it. The same could be said about the left. They too like the cheap labor, but claiming they, as a group, are the “side” that wants to support illegals for that reason, might not be accurate. They want the votes and bodies out on the street to protest with them and join unions imo.