Topic 'Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?' in forum 'PC Gaming' - dslreports.comhttp://www.dslreports.com/forum/Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-28933066
enTue, 31 Mar 2015 18:02:47 EDTTue, 31 Mar 2015 18:02:47 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29540938
I also have every craft at 50 and every skill line at 50 and all 3 guild lines maxed. I also have all skills maxed rank including most alternative morphs maxed rank too. Vamp and Werewolf are compelte too....yeah, I am a no stone unturned kind of guy!]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29540938Wed, 17 Sep 2014 04:25:34 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29540885
said by Nightfall:

My cousin and I are at VR2 right now and really just questing and playing in Cyrodiil. We are completionists so we are still running around and completing every quest we find. We read all the dialog and really just take our time in the game. We have a long way to go before we can get into Craglorn, but are making great progress.

The new Enchantment changes have made me want to invest in leveling it now. I think I will do that with one of my alt characters.

Overall, so long as they keep the updates coming, I am happy.

I'm the same. Taking my time n reading all the quests. The voice-over really makes a difference for this game.

Currently VR3, veeerrryyy close to VR4 lol.... but mostly spend time in Cyro as well.

I *just* start leveling 1H+Shield and got bitten as vampire. I'm already 2H max and destro staff, and lv10 werewolves as well. Time to switch it up :) That's what great about this game.]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29540885Wed, 17 Sep 2014 02:07:18 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29538991
The new Enchantment changes have made me want to invest in leveling it now. I think I will do that with one of my alt characters.

Seriously. The game is thriving. Just throwing it out there for the naysayer. Even if it goes F2P or whatever, I feel like I'm getting my $10/mth (6-mth subber) worth. That's all that matters to me.

I have been running around as a VR2 with my cousin and we have yet to hit an area that doesn't have people in it. Cyrodill is thriving as well. This is good to see as I remember the days when our WoW server was dying and Warhammer populations hit an all time low. Was really hard to play those games.

I am going to stick with my sub every 3 months for right now. I usually don't have a problem with subbing for 6 months, but I want to see what is coming out down the road first.1.4 out today. now it goes up to VR14.

but reason i post here is just to say that the game is as alive as ever. was wondering around all over tamriel last night to do VR in DC, back to socialize in EP, then some PvP in Cyro.... they're all full of players. It's great to see how this game is shaping up.]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29536621Mon, 15 Sep 2014 12:24:00 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29521869
said by dsoegiarto:

Seriously. The game is thriving. Just throwing it out there for the naysayer. Even if it goes F2P or whatever, I feel like I'm getting my $10/mth (6-mth subber) worth. That's all that matters to me.

I have been running around as a VR2 with my cousin and we have yet to hit an area that doesn't have people in it. Cyrodill is thriving as well. This is good to see as I remember the days when our WoW server was dying and Warhammer populations hit an all time low. Was really hard to play those games.

I am going to stick with my sub every 3 months for right now. I usually don't have a problem with subbing for 6 months, but I want to see what is coming out down the road first.--My domain - Nightfall.net]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29521869Tue, 09 Sep 2014 11:00:20 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29521252
The only glaring issue I feel needs to be addressed is the itemisation in the game, it is getting better but still has a way to go (questionable trait decisions on dropped gear). The Magicka/Stamina imbalance needs work but each patch the gap is closing so it is at least in a reasonable place now.]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29521252Tue, 09 Sep 2014 04:02:36 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29514022
Seriously. The game is thriving. Just throwing it out there for the naysayer. Even if it goes F2P or whatever, I feel like I'm getting my $10/mth (6-mth subber) worth. That's all that matters to me.]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29514022Fri, 05 Sep 2014 13:56:44 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29513381
CS, Artists and Special effects teams will always get culled after launch - you just don't need the numbers you did when putting a full game together. So you will always have a layoff period, but as usual the details we are fed just leaves room for wild predictions - if they went from 100 down to 2 artists, then yeah, this is a problem, on the other hand if they halved the crew, that would be pretty much as expected.

So yeah, the layoffs will happen, usually games news like to jump on it, but it is hit and miss whether or not it has any relevance to the health of a game or an indication of things to come - even if ESO was the most successful game since WoW, it still would go through the layoffs because excess weight is exactly that regardless of the fortune you are making.

The game does play like an MMO. To some that is bad, but to others that is good - for me I haven't really bothered playing a single player game seriously for years because they are finite and for me rather boring. Course, if I played an MMO alone I would find that boring too.]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29513381Fri, 05 Sep 2014 10:39:33 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29513311
Oh.. it also plays like a MMO which makes it bad.]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29513311Fri, 05 Sep 2014 10:19:41 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29513278
said by Asteldian:

Yeah, the layoff period is always an exciting time for naysayers of games, they love jumping on it to say 'see?! The game is dying!!'. The same way they do when server merges occur after a launch.

...then again for some games the layoffs really were the sign that things weren't going well, such as it was for SWTOR. FTP followed soon thereafter.

I do believe that ESO is healthier at this point then SWTOR was at the time, even though I did cancel my own sub last month because I had gone through the three campaigns, was sitting at VR11 and I wasn't finding much interesting stuff to do that my casual schedule fit with. I still like the game but I had run out of stuff to do (I don't PvP).

I'll probably re-sub in a few months and explore the new content when I run out of other games to interest me. I have a long list of games queued up on Steam that I never even installed.

I do the same with LOTRO (got a lifetime sub) and GW2. Every few months I'll play for a while until something else catches my fancy. May not happen as often with ESO though due to the monthly fee. Time will tell.]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29513278Fri, 05 Sep 2014 10:05:45 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29510430
The fact it happens in every game is irrelevant to them, it is an opportunity for negativity.

Bethesda has confirmed to Game Informer that there have been layoffs at the company. The job reductions were focused on staff working on The Elder Scrolls Onlines launch in development and customer support.

As is the norm for games of this type, we had ramped up a large workforce to develop a game of vast scale, and ramped up our customer service to handle the expected questions and community needs of The Elder Scrolls Online at launch, a company representative told us via email. Now that we are nearly six months post launch, we have a thriving online community in a game that runs smoothly. We have adjusted staffing to meet the ongoing needs of the studio, which continues to operate with a large work force.

/damage control: on /prayers: activated]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29509715Wed, 03 Sep 2014 20:07:05 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29504753
--My domain - Nightfall.net]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29504753Mon, 01 Sep 2014 20:18:33 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29503203
The closest game you can compare with is FFXIV (hence mentioning it earlier) because they are in a very similar position - they own it all, it is a well known IP. As mentioned, they were at 600k after 3 months and considered it a resounding success - since then they still have 500k log ins a day (I believe PS4 version being released helped this), so I imagine they are over the moon as it means they likely have even more than 600k active subs.

So, at 500k-700k ESO is in a great place, even if numbers dropped drastically, there is no way they would try going F2P prior to the console release, which even if not hugely successful would still be a lot of players to maintain a sub base.]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29503203Mon, 01 Sep 2014 10:52:28 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29503021
Those numbers seem like estimates might have to do more digging to see what they are actually based on.

Having said that F2P seems to be the way these type of games are going and I would be surprised if it turns out differently here.--Obama is a liar.... a cheat... a person of low moral character... the least common denominator...]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29503021Mon, 01 Sep 2014 09:44:11 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29502913
said by Asteldian:

Yes, 700kish is what the going estimate is, if it is true then that is a substantial number. FFXI peaked at 400k and was a huge success for Square, FFXIV after 3 months was 600k and they were very happy with that (and that game was expensive due to essentially having to be remade) they now have a heck of a lot of subs and going strong.

Given that Zeni own all the rights to ESO, it is far easier to turn a profit, therefore the pressures of insanely high subs is not on them. If they drop below 500k they will be concerned but still profitable though they would probably consider F2P to make more money.

For me the game has been great, though not withot flaws, but with 1.4 starting to bring actual challenging content for end game (Dragonstar seems epic for 4 man!) things are really getting better. Once Imperial City for PvP is released and the Champion system replaces VR, this game is going to be really epic.

Agreed.

There are too many people who put a premium on sub numbers. If you look at successful MMORPGs like EVE online who continue to do well with just a small share of subs, this game has the potential to do the same thing if they wish.

I really like the changes coming in 1.4 and have subbed another 3 months. If they keep the changes and additional content coming, I won't be going anywhere anytime soon.--My domain - Nightfall.net]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29502913Mon, 01 Sep 2014 08:55:06 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29502727
Given that Zeni own all the rights to ESO, it is far easier to turn a profit, therefore the pressures of insanely high subs is not on them. If they drop below 500k they will be concerned but still profitable though they would probably consider F2P to make more money.

For me the game has been great, though not withot flaws, but with 1.4 starting to bring actual challenging content for end game (Dragonstar seems epic for 4 man!) things are really getting better. Once Imperial City for PvP is released and the Champion system replaces VR, this game is going to be really epic.]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29502727Mon, 01 Sep 2014 03:58:21 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29502520
said by Mcrobrewer:

Well personally I think that it is in a very bad state and the pricing is ridiculous. Not much of a future...

The game has over 700k subscribers which at $15 a month is over $10 million a month. If they can hold over 500k subs, the game won't be going F2P anytime soon.

Not doubting you at all but where did you get the 700K and 500K numbers from?I read the story back in July. The sub numbers could have went up or down since then. With the game going live on Steam, who knows what the actual numbers are today.

Personally, I don't care about sub numbers. I care about the quality of the game. EVE online carried 500k subs as of 2013 which is where I came up with my 500k estimate for Elder Scrolls Online. 500k would be plenty of subs to keep the game going.--My domain - Nightfall.net]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29502520Sun, 31 Aug 2014 23:30:27 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29502499
said by Nightfall:

Well personally I think that it is in a very bad state and the pricing is ridiculous. Not much of a future...

The game has over 700k subscribers which at $15 a month is over $10 million a month. If they can hold over 500k subs, the game won't be going F2P anytime soon.Not doubting you at all but where did you get the 700K and 500K numbers from?--Obama is a liar.... a cheat... a person of low moral character... the least common denominator...]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29502499Sun, 31 Aug 2014 23:09:10 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29502007
said by TimothyMcCar:

Well personally I think that it is in a very bad state and the pricing is ridiculous. Not much of a future...

The game has over 700k subscribers which at $15 a month is over $10 million a month. If they can hold over 500k subs, the game won't be going F2P anytime soon.--My domain - Nightfall.net]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29502007Sun, 31 Aug 2014 17:44:37 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29501578
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29501578Sun, 31 Aug 2014 12:51:35 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29499153
said by bionicRod:

I am getting ready to start my last 8 weeks of grad school, I may have to pick this back up after I graduate. Everything was pretty much shades of brown the last time I played. :)

Get that shit done first. 8 weeks is nothing. By then, we'd probably get even more goodies.

I've really enjoyed leveling up all the skill lines and experimenting too! (shameless plug: If anyone is interested, I have been guest posting at www.talesoftamriel.com and write guides on all the morphs in various skill lines)

If it's named the same (Tales of Tamriel), I listened to that podcast quite a bit when the game first launched!--The world was movin' she was right there with it and she was]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29444639Thu, 07 Aug 2014 09:08:03 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29444395
I was pretty happy with the game even with all its issues at the start, but now the game is just brilliant, with even better things to come.

I've really enjoyed leveling up all the skill lines and experimenting too! (shameless plug: If anyone is interested, I have been guest posting at www.talesoftamriel.com and write guides on all the morphs in various skill lines).

I don't care too much about the Justice System, at least it is not as big a deal to me as it is for others...though I look forward to killing any one who decides to take what is not theirs!!]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29444395Thu, 07 Aug 2014 03:50:59 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29440016
said by Nightfall:

I can say that this MMO is one of the best I have played to date. Yes, WoW was fun, but I am really enjoying the questing, lore, and storyline that is presented in ESO. I am also enjoying the PVP a lot more than I was in WoW. The devs aren't sitting on their laurels.

Mmmhmm.

Agree.

The voice-over, the quest content, the graphic, the large PvP.... it all adds up. It's almost like taking the best out of all other MMOs - or at least that's how i felt.

CURSE YOU......SOMEBODY I CAN BLAME!!!! :(]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29439870Tue, 05 Aug 2014 10:56:39 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29423003
I enjoyed the old difficulty because it was hard, but I am also a man who fondly remembers Everquest 1. For newer gamers and especially inexperienced MMOers directly from ES games, it was far to hardcore.

Course, rather than a nerf, I would have just turned it into a 'Hardmode' setting and had the nerf a 'normal' setting. Admittedly most would use the normal because 'why make the game harder than it needs to be' but for those few who like the difficulty or are playing with a partner, they can choose the difficult version.]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29423003Tue, 29 Jul 2014 03:52:09 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29421811
said by nerf :

Difficulty setting? I pulled 3-4 mobs, 2 - 3 on average, before and after 50. No change.

Did you try that "after 50" before they nerfed the VR mobs? It's child's play now but it wasn't before the nerf.both.

i played almost every night (80% PvP tho...) and the patch went and through and i barely notice anything.

PS: I'm a 2H DK with Fire boom stick as alt weapon. I usually don't have a problem with regular PvE mobs and never died with dungeons boss of similar level...]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29421811Mon, 28 Jul 2014 16:07:39 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29421570
said by dsoegiarto:

Difficulty setting? I pulled 3-4 mobs, 2 - 3 on average, before and after 50. No change.

Did you try that "after 50" before they nerfed the VR mobs? It's child's play now but it wasn't before the nerf.]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29421570Mon, 28 Jul 2014 14:24:54 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29421094
...but in fact, it isn't. You cleared a zone, you get 1 level. Which is, 50/12, roughly 4. On pre-veteran, if you clear a zone, yes, you leveled around 4 times.

Difficulty setting? I pulled 3-4 mobs, 2 - 3 on average, before and after 50. No change.

People whine too much.

BUT, on another note, I CANNOT WAIT until i can shoot an NPC with an arrow on the knee. ]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29421094Mon, 28 Jul 2014 11:26:06 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29406507
I am not too bothered by the nerfing really, I still have fun doing the quests and the fact this is simply phase 1 of the changes I am not to concerned as a lot will be changing with veteran stuff. Also, I would imagine the new solo zone being worked on will probably be where the challenge we saw pre-nerf will reappear]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29406507Tue, 22 Jul 2014 04:19:01 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29404634
said by bionicRod:

I liked the challenge of the VR...although I only got to VR3. Some of the fights I can see how struggling not to die at every mob could be a pain. Looking at you, snow trolls.

I preferred the old VR to what it is now too (and was able to get to VR10 in hard mode, which clearly shows it wasn't impossibly difficult). It was a little too hard and a little dialing it back would have helped but they've made it face-rolling easy now, which really takes any challenge out of it.

To me "VETERAN rank" means you clearly know the game mechanics by now, therefore it's normal to have a more challenging experience. It shouldn't be too challenging to the point of being frustrating but now there is no challenge difference between leveling up and veteran ranks, which makes it utterly pointless. I (and, I think, most gamers) actually LIKE being challenged. Now the challenge has been taken completely out of the game. I have the option to faceroll through more single-player content or hit Craglorn and have to beg for groups. Neither option is a good one and I get the feeling I'm going to get bored REALLY fast now. ]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29404634Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:28:33 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29399876
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--The world was movin' she was right there with it and she was]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29381902Fri, 11 Jul 2014 10:01:17 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29381573
It's true it still takes much longer to gain the ranks (1 per zone basically), but without the difficulty VR had, it is a much less time consuming and frustrating experience - part of the problem was that not only was lvling slow for VR but it felt even slower because every little fight was a life or death situation for many, even for the simplest of quests. Also, I found by focusing on skilling up all my trees, the lvling seemed quick (VR8 now) because I was more excited about getting various skill lines maxed than I was actually gaining ranks. With the nerf it means it is far easier to use lesser skills whereas prior to the nerf, in many cases you needed to bring your A game to the fight so couldn't experiment.

I personally liked the old VR, but this is because I duo it all with my wife, so the challenge made things more exciting but not frustrating for us and also gave me te wiggle room to use different skills (I am now lvl 50 in all class and weapons), so from my perspective, the nerf was disappointing, however, I am a realist and believe it was a good change for the majority and therefore the game in general. This is phase 1 of 3 for VR improvements so expect more stuff to come. I believe we get some details at Quakecon]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29381573Fri, 11 Jul 2014 04:04:26 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29380005
said by Nightfall:

You're gonna see lots of people saying everything became a "cakewalk". As for my dps templar, I can finally get 3 soldiers in one combat without thinking it's a suicide mission, and I think it's great.

I don't care about the game being challenging in day-to-day questing, I want this to be enjoyable and let me follow the story without raging against 2 overpowered sorcerers and an assassin (freakin daggers they throw...), I care about the game being challenging in group dungeons, in Craglorn, in places where you want challenge and a bit of story.

I prefer they make questing a little easier, even if the best players (or those who don't have latency issues like here in Europe) are whining cause they (supposedly) were already good with the difficulty before.

People who rolled on content already left for PvP I think, so it's just fair they give what "average" people want in difficulty to get a smooth experience in PvE.

TESO veteran ranks were much harder than solo games progression (ZOS says it's because it was meant to be group content, well, there's literally NO mention of that in the game dear ZOS), so that's logical for me. Now they just realized PvE was mostly solo-oriented, so it's just great they made this change for anyone to enjoy it (and if you want challenge, go to Craglorn/cyrodiil/trials ...).

I agree with this. I've mentioned my frustrations in post on this thread already and I know it has gotten to a couple of my friends as well. The idea is to make the game enjoyable, not an exercise in frustration.

At the beginning, there were too many times I felt like it was an exercise in frustration. The main story/guild quests come to mind, where it would be labeled as a say lvl 20 quest, but it really wasn't doable till 25 or so. Or I would attack something that looked like an average everyday enemy and get completely owned.

However, they have done a good job at correcting alot of this(either that or your damage scales better at higher levels) as the later story/guild quests were doable at that given level range. BUT, I still run into situations they haven't corrected(one comes to mind in the first VR zone in a NON group dungeon. I got her halfway down and she just chain heals herself back to full health and I am spent. I have zero chance of killing her by myself at the level I am at, where as other dungeons, I can kill the named "bosses", just with some effort).

It's when you hit things like this, that are just completely out of whack for the zone/level range they are supposed to be is what gets me frustrated with this game. ]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29380005Thu, 10 Jul 2014 15:07:22 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29379936
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My favorite comment is the top one....

You're gonna see lots of people saying everything became a "cakewalk". As for my dps templar, I can finally get 3 soldiers in one combat without thinking it's a suicide mission, and I think it's great.

I don't care about the game being challenging in day-to-day questing, I want this to be enjoyable and let me follow the story without raging against 2 overpowered sorcerers and an assassin (freakin daggers they throw...), I care about the game being challenging in group dungeons, in Craglorn, in places where you want challenge and a bit of story.

I prefer they make questing a little easier, even if the best players (or those who don't have latency issues like here in Europe) are whining cause they (supposedly) were already good with the difficulty before.

People who rolled on content already left for PvP I think, so it's just fair they give what "average" people want in difficulty to get a smooth experience in PvE.

TESO veteran ranks were much harder than solo games progression (ZOS says it's because it was meant to be group content, well, there's literally NO mention of that in the game dear ZOS), so that's logical for me. Now they just realized PvE was mostly solo-oriented, so it's just great they made this change for anyone to enjoy it (and if you want challenge, go to Craglorn/cyrodiil/trials ...).--My domain - Nightfall.net]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29379936Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:45:55 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29379779
--The world was movin' she was right there with it and she was]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29379779Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:07:29 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29379756
That's actually kinda sad because I still think it's too slow. I don't know why they had to turn it from the speed it was at to essentially 3X+ as slow(you need essentially more than 3 times the normal XP to get just one level and the XP comes slower than it used to).]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29379756Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:58:14 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29379608
said by Chuck_IV:

Which patch? The one I got last night? I was leveling VR last night and it didn't seem much different.

Ok, thanks for the info.

It was a patch that was delivered last week that nerfed the VR leveling "quite a bit". I don't know what extent since I don't have a single character at max level yet, but I will jump into that in the next 2-3 weeks or so.--My domain - Nightfall.net]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29379608Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:01:26 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29379120
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29379120Thu, 10 Jul 2014 09:54:33 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29378969
--My domain - Nightfall.net]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29378969Thu, 10 Jul 2014 08:51:12 EDTRe: Elder Scrolls Online Doomed?http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29370867
I will say I am a bit disappointed in how the veteran levels go. After completing the storyline quest, it sent me off the to the same realm that me and a few friends have been leveling alts on. Now I am doing the exact same quests, just in an alternate universe of lvl 50+ enemies.

I was hoping they would have some unique and new quests/things to do for the veteran levels, but I guess not.

Unfortunately, I think the rest of my friends are tiring of ESO. One has already cancelled and another, while still playing ESO on our gaming night, is off playing SWTOR again, most of the time, with one of their friends. Only one seems to get still going at it, as he is already Veteran Rank 4.]]>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Doomed-29370867Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:47:16 EDT