If I want a single pass I go with the Zulu if I want a NATO with the extra hardware I wear it as is. A NATO seems a bit flimsy to me without the extra...

I guess some like it limp

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This would be the case if all nato materials were the same. I have a few from cheapnatostraps that would fall in this category for sure. I even have a nato that is constructed with the same style of material as a Maratac zulu, so it is not as flimsy. I dislike the large zulu hardware but I love the material.