The intent is, that the citadel is lower than much of Northrend and Icecrown glacier around it, and is located inside a rift.Baggins 18:24, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Can I alter the cited quote to clarfy that? --SWM2448 18:27, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Observation goes outside of a quote. Either before or after. BTW, that entire tower is the Frozen Throne, the actual citadel is much larger surrounding the entire area, apparently.Baggins 18:28, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

This still doesn't make sense to me. If the entire tower is at the bottom of a rift, then why do all pictures (including the login screen) show a tower coming from the ground and going up into the air? Aliron (talk) 03:47, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

The rift is so large that when you're inside, you wouldn't be able to tell it's a rift at all. You literally can't see from one end all the way to the other, it's that massive. At least, that's what the implications seemed to be. WoWWiki-Suzaku (talk) 06:49, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Opening this up again, is the 'rift' the Icecrown Glacier or the underground pit seen in the TFT undead campaign? The spire that is the Frozen Throne was in a closed-roof room before Arthas and Illidan exposed it. When the tower was exposed, was whatever the rift was still there, or ruined? The article is worded oddly.--SWM2448 17:44, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

In light of what has been seen, this part really needs to be looked at again. Generally I find there's too much credence given to the RP game. Surly (talk) 21:51, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

The article tries to reconcile the RPG description with the game's depiction by suggesting that "the rift may be so large the entire spire is below average ground level", but that's simply not the case in WoW. The top of Icecrown Citadel is easily the highest point in all of Northrend. Its tallest spires are actually higher than the game engine will allow you to fly. Egrem (talk) 09:07, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

You cannot reach the top of ICC, but the Temple of Storms is the highest point of Northrend. The "reachable height" varies upon your location.

Will The Icecrown Citadel be opened in wotlk patch like like black temple did in the burning crusade. It would Be cool if meeeting the lich king would be the last anyone do before next expansion like it was with kil'jaeden in bc.-LKHighlord 15:51,19 April 2008 (UTC)

At this point in time, there's absolutely no way of knowing that. -- Dark T Zeratul 13:58, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, except the Lich King the only boss I presume is there is the frost wyrm lady-queen-thing. But..
"During the battle for the Wrath Gate, Saurfang the Younger falls to the Lich King, his soul claimed by Frostmourne, "
Anyone know WHY? :O Ofel

Not sure what you're asking here but he has fallen because he rushed headlong into the enemy ranks, trying to take down the Lich King himself. His axe was shattered and he was slain. His soul has been claimed because such is the nature of Frostmourne. If your question hasn't been answered, then try to rewrite it. Dragola (talk) 12:37, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

I noticiated that too.
After Saurfang Jr dies the Lich King claims his soul with the frostmourne, maybe we'll see his soul imprisioned on the future and he'll be a boss. That would be good though, the horde really need more meaning to be on northrends even with all the additional story they're actualy not even close to the alliance on matter of reasons to be there and that is jsut retardad Azahel (talk) 13:07, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Just remember Azahel the Blood Elves and the Forsaken have a big reason to be there,but the whole 'Razing of Orgrimmar' might explain why the orcs, tauren, and trolls are heading to face the dark horrors of the frozen north.Sairez (talk)

How 'bout Bolvar? a bug who let players learn what Alexstrazsa said could read that she said: They must not know the young paladins fate. something like that (not sure if he was a paladin) --Wendigo1337

* I'll add Varian Wrynn for Horde raids, and Garrosh Hellscream for Alliance raids. This is based on details revealed at BlizzCon 2009 that said raids will have to board their respective airship with their faction leader and race the opposite faction in aerial combat before the reach the third level of the instance.Orisai (talk) 05:01, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

My possible Boss list (It needs to be long, there are too many short dungeons and raids now):

I think we're basing too much on lore: it is possible between the bosses some old ones could came, but i doubt that Dar'khan would appear again (wasn't he in meaning to betray Arthas?) or Darkmaster Gandling. It is possible that Blizzard will create a few new bosses, and add Kel'thuzad (i'm pretty sure he will return). But, like the Black Temple or the Sunwell, there will be new characters and not many lore-based bosses;Also i agree with Bolvar and Saurfang as bosses.Malygos Helper (talk) 12:15, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

Muradin has never wanted to kill the Lich King so I think that would be pretty quirky that a little history-nerdy dwarf would finish off the pandemonius of this expansion. I do not yet know who's the great Avenger of the Lich King. Maybe Dalaran leaders? -- 07:29, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

That does sound like a cool idea, but I don't think Blizzard would put all the bosses together like that. I think Blizz also said that they wouldn't make any more 40-man raids, because such high volumes of players have difficulty working together. Tazmantdr Talk Contr. 15:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

As for the helper boss for the Lich King himself, there are many characters who have pasts with Arthas and/or reasons to kill him personally: Muradin Bronzebeard, Sylvanas Windrunner, Jaina Proudmoore, Varian Wrynn, Tirion Fordring, Darion Mograine, or even Richard A. Knaak's Crowd (Rhonin, Vereesa Windrunner, Korialstrasz.) Magni Bronzebeard and Thrall also have reasons to kill him, but are unlikely to go to Northrend for it.
I think it's probably going to be Tirion and/or Darion, involving the Ashbringer. However I personally think It would be cooler if it was King Varian.
I don't read the comics, but from what I've seen of them, he's battling hard in Northrend already. He grew up with Arthas, and would have been greatly affected by the death of King Terenas, who was essentially a father to him. He also would be vengeful after the death of Bolvar, which seems pretty significant since Varian already appears to be pretty bloodthirsty and gung-ho. After being dropped into the game when WotLK was released, it wouldn't be surprising if he had such a significant role. Tazmantdr Talk Contr. 15:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Well,i don't think that there will be character like Sylvanas,Varian or any faction leader.I simply think there will be Mograine and Tirion,nothing more.Or at maximum there will be Sylvanas if you're Horde and Varian/Muradin if you're Alliance.Malygos Helper (talk) 08:31, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

During the first seconds of the Cataclysm expansion trailer, some scenes of what I think it's Icecrown Citadel inside and the Frozen Trone can be seen, right before the Lich King appears.Orisai (talk) 00:12, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

I'd like to add this awsome piece of artwork depicting the Frozen Throne and Sindragosa flying around.