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Is this allowed ?

That's what I thought and my belief is that it'd count as being fanart, but I wasn't really asking you to do anything about it, just wanted to know if it was allowed or not. --Speysider (Talk Page) 09:24, May 13, 2012 (UTC)

If that's the case, then User_talk:EzioLover should be suspended for updating images. If he does not get suspended, clearly you only made that declaration to stop me uploading. --Speysider (Talk Page) 19:05, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

you mean i cant upload any images?? but i didnt know about this declaration so please forgive me i just downloaded the blu-ray version and i wanted to update thats all...and for how much time?? --EzioLover (talk) 19:18, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

I'm a bit slow to understand so I have a few questions. Bear with me por favor.

Do you also mean no doing this or do you mean uploading entirely different files and replacing the images currently in the articles or both?--Cerez365™(talk) 19:23, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Suppose in the switching out of manga images when the anime airs (that's still allowed right o.O). And an image is uploaded: bem but someone else finds an even better version: bam not in terms of quality or fodder like that but in terms of showing the "entirety" of the technique/scene from the manga version... Is that mk? --Cerez365™(talk) 19:45, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

If it comes up again, will I be able to change it ? --Speysider (Talk Page) 12:12, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

Let me apologise for the failure of the Biju Rasengan image. -.- I've added in a comment tag above the Fair Use Rationale to remind me to update that image when a shot appears that's similar to the manga image that also has Naruto in it. --Speysider (Talk Page) 12:24, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

Offer of Assistance

You know, I was just thinking about this, and I thought I'd extend my hand in this offer. I know I have an edit count of just under 200, but you know my record from around Wikia as a whole. Perhaps I could lend your administration a hand on the Image issue? You know, categorization, making sure all the proper tags are on them and whatnot, and deletion of duplicates or images that violate policy. What do you think? Besides, the only reason I'm not too active over here is because I can never seem to find something to get involved with. Those sticks over there on Bleach Wiki seem to have a hernia whenever anyone other than themselves make an edit, so I haven't really found a home on one of the canon wikis yet. Maybe that can change. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 23:16, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry I've been way out of it this weekend. What's happening?--TheUltimate3(talk) 09:49, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

The adoption request has absolutely nothing to do with the Declaration, Tyciol is completely out of the loop and has simply jumped in without a clue of what the real issue is. I simply placed an adoption request for someone here to be made a crat because of the fact there are no active bureaucrats. Last I heard, the wiki goes up for adoption if all bureaucrats are not active for 2 months. --Speysider (Talk Page) 09:53, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

I see. I was under the impression when Dantman wasn't around I act in his stead since I believe it was me and Dantman who started moving in like 2009. /shrug Guess I never thought we needed a bureaucrat.--TheUltimate3(talk) 09:59, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

Bureaucrats are the only people who can set people to Rollback status and there are a whole pile of people in the Rollback group that never come here any more. There are many people on this wiki who deserve rollback status but simply can't get it due to the lack of any active bureaucrats. --Speysider (Talk Page) 10:06, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks :)

Edo Tensei stuff

Could you switch out the images for the Edo Tensei article when/if they're uploaded. Protection and all that.

Alsooo, I was minding my own business yesterday when I came across some information... you're the Bleach wikia founder O_O I was thoroughly impressed and also realised that... you're really a fossil =\ --Cerez365™(talk) 12:11, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

Lool don't you hate when that happens though. I have a friend that begged for bureaucrat status on a wiki and once he got it he demoted the founder and then took over the wikia. =\

I think I have a full grasp on the declaration, it's just that Edo Tensei is sysop-level protected and all.--Cerez365™(talk) 12:23, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

Just needed someone to slap sense into us.--Cerez365™(talk) 12:27, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

Cerez, he changed the protection level so you can add it yourself :) --Speysider (Talk Page) 12:38, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

Image Upload Hogging

I believe there is such a thing as hogging the image uploading. When I mean that, I don't mean that they hold it ransom and forbid anyone touching it :P. What I generally mean by it is that other users upload their images and don't let other people try to upload their own, maybe better quality, images which is slightly aggrieving as it seems like other people are being written out of the equation and not being allowed to contribute. --Speysider (Talk Page) 12:20, May 25, 2012 (UTC)

I know people can upload when they want, but it's annoying if other people can't upload because "someone" else has already uploaded before them and nobody will allow the newer image to be used. --Speysider (Talk Page) 12:30, May 25, 2012 (UTC)

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I want Impure World Reincarnation to be Resurrection. I want Sage Art: Many Ultra-Big Ball Spiralling Serial Spheres to be Sage Art: Super Big Ball Rasentarengan. I desperately want Minato's full body shot out of his article. But unfortunately, save for the last one, there have been descent, disagreements, and finally closure.

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I don't see how this has any relevance to Image Upload Hogging. -.- --Speysider (Talk Page) 13:08, May 25, 2012 (UTC)

Song Pages

Hello TheUltimate3, I was wondering if you could help me with this page as we do not know if it is the right song. Kunoichi101 had put a delete tag on it but I'm not sure if we should keep it on there or if we should do something else. Can you please help? Joshbl56 08:01, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

Madara

Episode Names

Why do people change the name of the episode articles to the "literal" translation, rather than just using the name given by the animators and the one listed on Wikipedia ? :S --Speysider (Talk Page) 11:24, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

I like it when the episodes are named how they were named. If someone comes here and see an article about Episode 30 and the article name differs from the official name, then they would be confused. Consistency is better for the anime episodes imo. --Speysider (Talk Page) 11:37, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

I suppose, but I feel the way I try to get newer editors on how things work here does have its merits. If someone can't take a slightly blunt response, then clearly they aren't editors who would last here very long. If people take the bluntness and improve on it, they can become better editors. But yeah, you are right: it's a battle of ideals and obviously I try to go along with the wiki culture as best as possible, but I do feel that some of the culture from before does need to shift and change to adapt to today's standards. --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 22:37, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

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Not your choice to make. I do not want Narutopedia to be one of those closed off wikis where new users are scared off because the current body make it look like a frat where only a few chosen people can get in.

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I know, I don't intend to be that intimidating lol

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But I'm not doing anything of physical importance as of now, so tell me what parts of our culture do you feel need adapting?

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The whole culture about the images. When the latest episode came out, I uploaded several images. Now, out of all those images, I can guarantee just one of them is being used. The rest were replaced by cropped images. I keep feeling as though there are some users here who are jealous of me having the ability to capture at 1920x1080 (applies only to Nartuo Shippuden) since not a lot of people can and because of that, my images are either cropped for no reason or not used at all in favour of other user's images. If I counted all the images I've uploaded, I'd guarantee 2/5 of them are being used.

There was also another case with the rationale. Fairly recently, Cerez went to about 4 of my images and just changed the rationale for no reason, citing "useless info". This then started an unnecessary revert war, since (from what I understand) the rationale is to depict THAT image. They aren't supposed to be streamlined to be matching. The stuff he removed was relating to the image being 1080p High Definition and that if the image was to be replaced, it had to be 1920x1080 or greater, not less. I asked Jacce to sysop protect those images due to it.

I know this probably is none of business, but what's going with Kunoichi101? Well, sorta of my business, I suppose. I know her, personally. She's not the type to stir trouble. Maybe I can talk to her? We used to go school together, so she'll listen to me.--NinjaSheik 22:49, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Re: My take on your "Culture" issue

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If an image is cropped, I assume they are done because we don't really need the entire image. In fact, typically we don't want the entire image.

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Most of the character images I upload from Shippuden are tagged HDShot. I tag them like this because it's HD and the image should stay HD. If it is cropped out of the 16:9 ratio, by default and by computer logic, the image stops being HD automatically, which gives a misleading filename. Hence why, I put in my rationale that it's a 1080p HD image and that if it's to be replaced (eg, using the upload a new version system), it must be in 1080p and not less, because that's a degradation of the original quality. In the File:Ninja Swordsmen Revived.png file, another user uploaded over my 1080p image with a tiny image that generally violated the replaceability of the image in the rationale. My opinion is that if you want the rationale to say only specific things and not be user-generated, you should create a form that simply gives predefined rationale that can't be changed.

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The "image can only be replaced by another 1080p" image is in my opinion, not a valid rational. As you've stated earlier, not many people have the ability to change the image in that case which gives you an edge (I suspect that was the point, to avoid the problems you were having with Culture Issue #1) but I understand why it was removed. Valid implacability rationals is more, "Image of similar rational", "Image that shows a better representation of the described" ect.

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It's there to stop what happened on the file mentioned above by the replacement of an image that is less than 1920x1080 (or around that if cropped). I don't put that there to give myself an edge: I just don't like it when I upload large 1920x1080 images (some are nearly 2MB or larger) and then having them cleared for much smaller and not-so-great quality images.

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The issue is not the quality, but representation. I don't care if an image is 360p as long is it represents things right.

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Quality is just as important as the representation of an image. You could have a perfect representation of an image, but terrible quality. It won't look good for the wiki if we have a lot of people uploading terrible images with a perfect representation of the image. --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 10:49, June 9, 2012 (UTC)

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Doesn't change the fact it's not a valid rational.

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I can't seem to find anything written down that you must write the rationale a specific way. I put in 1080p High Definition because the images I upload are just that: 1080p. They should not be replaced by an image of anything lower than that (using the Upload a new version of the file: if it's a separate file, then that's not violating the replaceability).

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You are right however, quality is important, still not as important as representation, but yes it is important.

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It's important when in the case of character infobox images. Click here for an example. This image is a good representation, but it's let down by the fact the image is of a terrible quality due to the grainy background, which is severely degrading that image.

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It is not important enough however where a made up rational that reads like "this way, only a few people can upload images!" is appropriate.

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It's not written as to intend that. You said yourself that you can access 1920x1080 resolution. I got my Crunchyroll account to improve the wiki with much higher quality images, I didn't get it to waste my money since I don't really need to watch in 1080p but I do for the improvement of this wiki. --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 11:04, June 9, 2012 (UTC)

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However I'm getting away from myself. I'm not interested in just images. What else concerns you about our culture. I'm sure it's not just images.

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I can't think of anything really, my pet peeve is just how some users handle a situation with the images I upload and some users are too fixed in one specific way and they don't seem to want to change it. There's another culture that I have to address and it's with the release of a new episode. I don't think your aware of it, but when the new episode is released on Thursday, Cerez literally spams uploads to the wiki for various images. He clearly mentioned here:

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Also, my "hogging" of uploading images as the self-proclaimed image queen chief (I always thought I was just the Herald) has been brought up as an issue. Thinking about it, this might actually be the underlying issue and though I didn't see anyone going out of their way to do this for me, nor did I complain- I paid my dues as a noob ( '-'), I'll try to curb that and give some of the younger ones more of a chance to contribute in that manner.

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—Cerez365

However, several weeks later, I have seen absolutely no indication whatsoever that Cerez intends to curb his uploading and he is certainly giving nobody else a chance to upload. His belief (in my opinion) is that "I upload an image and I will revert any attempts to make the image better" which is extremely selfish because he's clearly telling people that he wants to continue being the chief image uploader and he's refusing to give other people, like me, the chance to even try. I suggested at one point in the declaration that a list of images that need swapped out (manga -> anime) should be provided by someone on the episode's talkpage so that the community can get involved and so it wouldn't be the same 3 people uploading images. That obviously hasn't went anywhere because of Cerez's attitude to hogging the uploader. I checked the upload log and he uploaded at least 15 images, maybe even more, on the release of the recent episode. I barely got in 8 and had I not got my 8 uploads in, Cerez would probably have 25 uploads. Please don't tell me that's not hogging the uploader because if someone uploads 25 images within 30 minutes, it is. He's giving nobody else the chance and I understand that he's not able to rewatch the episodes, but if that's the case, then all he should be doing is listing the manga images, enjoying the episode more and not just watching it for the sake of spamming the wiki with images. --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 11:13, June 9, 2012 (UTC)

Something I didn't mention is that I have messaged Cerez 2-3 times now, asking him quite politely to remember that he said he would curb the uploads but he hasn't ever responded or even listened. It's why I feel I should mentioned it to you so you can let him know. --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 13:10, June 9, 2012 (UTC)

I haven't been revert warring. Edit warring either on purpose. I try not to fight on here and yes, this week I have made some mistakes, but I haven't tried to add anything on the article that isn't true. The Fox King(tylerbryant547@gmail.com (talk) 11:38, June 21, 2012 (UTC))

What is interesting about them. I know some were pointless, I just let my favoritism and respect for Madara go too far by here and there adding things true, but unnecessary. I won't do that anymore though. From here on, I'll only attribute abilities that are existent and that no one has added or edit his page to correct spelling errors and such. The Fox King(tylerbryant547@gmail.com (talk) 12:07, June 21, 2012 (UTC))

What didn't you like about them. You retorted my thanking you for supporting me against Speysider's threat and said that my edits catching your eye were not usually a good thing. The Fox King(tylerbryant547@gmail.com (talk) 12:20, June 21, 2012 (UTC))

File move

Main Article

I got a problem from Speysider. He told me that using main article on the main characters/supporting characters is not necessary. so can the anime filler in part II the same as the Adventures at Sea Arc??? I don't want to have a fight with him. Kunoichi101 (talk) 23:24, June 21, 2012 (UTC)Kunoichi101

you should know that kunoichi101 asked for the comminuties opinion because this is a community and not run by one people and now that the community doesnt agree with him he wnats it deleted but it shouldnt be deleted so i will give you the link to it and please dont delete it ok? because it should be talked about by everyone here is the link Forum:Main Article with the anime filler--—This unsigned comment was made by 64.20.45.178 (talk • contribs) .

Excessive Uploads

User:Droidkaju is excessively uploading for the past couple of days. In 2 days, he's uploaded nearly 25 images and a lot of them are of poor quality (I know game images are poor quality, but I think they could be much better than the ones he's uploading), unnecessary (5 images for a technique is pointless) and contain black bars. I didn't want to tell him since it would seem pointless, so I'd thought I'd let you know. --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 13:44, June 25, 2012 (UTC)

I'm beginning to have a problem with the excessive uploading by the user I mentioned up above. He's so eager to upload crap tons of images that he's uploading images that show nothing but a coloured blur, continually contain black bars and are generally unusuable on the wiki. --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 19:23, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

Image embargo

I didn't think I'd need to ask this, but we need another image embargo. The number of people constantly uploading images that are watermarked by Saiyan Island is ridiculous. Even if it's only for 2 weeks, it would at least stop the nuisance others are creating. --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 22:04, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

Naruto's Page

Hello there! I was wondering if you could go back and fix the Naruto page because Gabriel Dal Belo has some text (very small but really annoying). Joshbl56 23:35, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

Road to stuff

Heller. If you would, could you please add a == See Also == section on the movie's article and put the Road to Naruto The Movie article underneath it. The page is protected.--Cerez365™(talk) 14:39, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

rationales

I'm trying to make small fixes to rationales, for example here, just so they say the right thing and they are being reverted. Nothing is wrong with my edit so I don't see Cerez's continual problems with my contributions. I get proper internet access for a couple hours and already I can't contribute =.= --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 14:53, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

If you don't want it to be a valid rationale, that is your problem, not mine. Go and talk about it in private with the other admins and make it a rule, then I might stop putting it in. Until that time arrives, it's perfectly valid until other admins say otherwise. You and Cerez gang up on me every single time I try to improve this wiki. --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 14:58, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

I'd like to point out, just so you know Ulti for future references that I'm using the standard mark up that has been used on the template which explains the fair use rationale as well as the one that everybody who is here now excluding the user above me uses as well users who were here before my time have used. Now while I don't mind overlooking the images uploaded by said user and their rationale, I am not going to let it spread to other rationales. I see no need to overcomplicate something as simple as rationale. It's high quality write Resolution= High and call it a day.--Cerez365™(talk) 15:07, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

But it isn't! That's your problem, you don't know what the resolutions are for HD so you think none of these images are HD, when they are. Even the images you and others have uploaded are 720p HD and that is why I am putting it in. It's your problem if you don't want to accept that because TU3 is actually agreeing with me that it's fine to put in 720p High Definition. --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 15:13, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about this Ulti. I was just explaining my position to you. I don't intend to entertain this.--Cerez365™(talk) 15:20, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Request

I shouldn't be asking this, but I'm going to have to now. Please tell Cerez to back off and stop being so antagonising about all my edits and to stop revert warring with everything I do. I'm really starting to become bored of his behaviour because he is out to get me. Cerez, I know you'll read this but I do not want you to reply because you will, as you always do, skew the facts and make me out to be a bad guy for no reason whatsoever. --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 16:58, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

This problem will never end. Admin intervention will always be needed. Let's take the case of this file. You told me it was perfectly fine on my talk page to put "720p High Definition" on the resolution parameter of the rationale and Cerez just ignored me and continued to revert my edit which really did piss me off because, if I get an admin's clearance, there should be no discussion because the staff have said "I approve of this, case closed". Instead of being civil and reading my edit summaries, he has become immature and has descenced to using pathetic insults and calling me a child which I'm not going to tolerate. I'm not going to waste a single bit of my time trying to make him grow up because he won't and as I said previously, the issue will not be solved until the admins intervene. I'm doing nothing wrong, I am trying to defend my edits and I get yelled at constantly. --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 18:58, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Believe me I have tried and have been ignored completely. He is refusing to listen to me and does not address me by my username anymore and just calls me "User" or "child" so I'm not wasting my time bringing it up to him to end the feud. He will only stop if an admin tells him to. --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 19:21, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Re: "Spey"

If we must, just remember you asked for it. No good will come of this, however...

Me calling him "child" which at the time was used as colloquialism and would equate to me calling you "nigguh" or "gurlll".

First to apologise about this again but I suppose you'll find entertainment out of it no?

Now there's a lot to be said about the whole matter but I won't because I am trying to be civil towards him and for all the good it did. I've tried to explain everything I do, but it doesn't seem to register where he is concerned because nothing the user does seems wrong to him (not ever tying to usurp control of the entire wiki) and I can't do anything about that really. But all I can say is that I've tried and the whole situation is tiresome to someone with the emotional depth of a teaspoon, but now this is as much single that can be given any more. It's supposed to be a simple thing: if the user steps out of line, marshal him. It's what I'd expect any one to do to any other person on the wiki.

One more thing. If you'd recall to mind the Pakura infobox image fiasco, having rationales that say "Only by an image in Widescreen format (nothing less than 1280x720 accepted) and with the same license format" and the stink that was raised because another user cropped the image, those are the issues I want to avoid. Suppose an image even labelled "720p HD" is cropped down and no longer 720p, then the rationale would either have to be changed or, like with Pakura's image, reuploaded altogether (raising problems either way). Those are the things which can be avoided by simply saying "Low, Medium, High". --Cerez365™(talk) 21:09, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Decision Time

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No images.

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So your saying I can't upload ?

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No synopsis.

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I don't even touch the synopsis >_<

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No editing existing images that other people upload.

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This should really be directed towards Cerez, he is the one who starts the problems with it because I don't start problems: I make a fix and he reverts it for no reason.

I find this way too harsh. A ban for contributing? I'm trying to contribute and now your telling me I can't. >_> This decision solves nothing, all you have done is make a very threatening decision to ban people if they so much as look at each other's edits and, as I said, this will not solve a single thing. This clearly favours Cerez and is not an unbiased decision in any form. I would appreciate it if the other administrators, including Dantman, would provide me their thoughts on my talkpage because I do not agree to any part of this decision: it's threatening and very condescending and I find it insulting as well as rude. Did you consult any of the other administrators and Dantman to discuss this, or are you just making up your own decisions without consulting anyone else? --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 17:11, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Ok. I'm fine with that. Though I'll have questions to clarify some things.--Cerez365™(talk) 16:51, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

My God this is getting out of hand and tiresome.

Look here Speysider, I like uploading images and have been told not to do so, I like writing new Synopses so that the homepage is updated quickly and regularly and have been told not to do so. I was planning on even asking questions and decided not to do so either and you don't see me crying foul. The only reason this benefits me is because I'm an all-purpose user, nothing more, the only way Ulti could stop me contributing is nothing short of banning me because of what I edit here. Now you want to have a full fleet of administrators coming down on something as trivial as the nit-picking of two users? Why not go to central and have them oversee the decision as well or maybe get the admins from the other Naruto wikis to chime in?

I don't know about you but I have a whole lot of shame and would rather not escalate this any further. As you've said before I hate you, when in fact I don't mind you at all, so how about we expand on that and make our own compromise and see whether or not Ultimate accepts it oui? Since you contribute mainly in the images section, you do your thing there, and i'll not mind you. If you want to tag every image from 0.1p-1080p S/HD or with widescreen and whatever else tags you want go right ahead. I realise now that I'm way too grown to be keeping up this foolishness with you on a day to day basis and at least, promise from this point onwards, to respect the contributions you make and let them alone. Sounds fair enough? --Cerez365™(talk)

@Cerez: I had typed up a big long speel but because someone chose to delete this talkpage, I can't remember what I said. I'll just say that all I wanted from you is for you to say exactly what you have just proposed. So I'm going to accept your proposal because I don't want any more fighting, but I won't hesitate to drop a line to Dantman or any other administrator if you break your proposal. Let's put all of this behind us and start anew because you do good work here but I feel this has went out of hand.

@TU3: I got your reply on my talkpage but I need to question this:

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But the problem area, namely the New Episodes is regrettably forbidden until I say otherwise.

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This wasn't even a problem. The problem was, in general, images. Basically, by your message here, you are telling me I cannot upload a single image from any anime episode, so what's the point of me being here to upload images? You might want to rethink that. --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 17:54, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Technically, I don't have to rethink anything. Nor is it necessary, if you two truly wish to honor this truce. I'll hold both of you to this, and naturally I will be watching. As such, none of your actions will be restricted. Don't disappoint me. /playsSkyrim--TheUltimate3(talk) 17:59, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Did you read what I said ? What you have told me is both me and Cerez am forbidden from uploading a thing and that is what I wish you to rethink. Cerez uploads images from the manga and the anime and I do not want to stop him doing so and I do not find it fair that we should both be barred from uploading COMPLETELY and let others take control of uploading. From what you have said, this is an infinite ban of the uploader so why not just get the central wiki to make us a new usergroup for those who are not allowed to upload because that is what you are telling me. So yeah, I would like you to rethink what you have said. --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 18:04, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

I think you've misunderstood what I said Speysider. I am not afraid of the popo, you can call them. Don't take this either as an indication that things such as changing the images you upload won't still be changed for ones more favourable, it's just that in the future, it will have more community involved.

The rest of the conversation, I am lost to so I'll plea the 5th on the basis that it might incriminate me? So am I or am I not restricted from doing stuff before I go back to my Spanish soap operas.--Cerez365™(talk) 18:09, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

I probably did and all I wanted was community discussions in images, not people making their own decisions to crop images. An image should, imo, only be cropped if the community thinks it is necessary. Or, we'll just have another repeat of this. --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 18:13, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

I just re-read what TU3 said and he isn't restricting us from doing anything, so might I suggest to you TU3 to go to your original messages to me and Cerez and cross out bits that you originally put so as to avoid confusion ? --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 19:10, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

The issue is done Speysider and I'm not doing anything. Let it go.--TheUltimate3(talk) 19:23, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Once you confirm here if we are restricted from doing anything or not (excluding the restriction of not touching each other's edit in a 3 hour window that doesn't include talkpages and forum posts), then I will let it go :) I would like to be absolutely sure of where the situation is before doing anything. --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 21:31, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

By the Titans boy, did you actually read this entire thing, or do you just enjoy controversy for the sake of it? I have said, quite plainly, that as long as you and Cerez hold to your truce, there is no restrictions. Don't trade one stupid feud with another. Don't even respond to this, the issue is closed.--TheUltimate3(talk) 21:43, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Operation: Imagedawn

Signatures: Important?

this is Kunoichi101, there's something i want to ask. signatures are important, yes? if so, then look at the signature forum i created because one of them left me a message "without" a signature on my talk page. i don't like users who never use signatures before. <.< Kunoichi101 (talk) 05:13, July 25, 2012 (UTC)Kunoichi101

Thank You

Thank you, thank you VERY much for ending this annoying problem with admins on Hinata's appearance. I have managed a LOT of wikis over the years, and I can tell you this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.

This problem with stingy/over powered admins on this wiki I have multiple complaints about so I thank you for stepping up and ending this stupidity.
--Shock Dragoon (talk) 17:18, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Same with linking to Edo Tensei. Most people know the technique as Edo Tensei. Now I feel harassed: first it was Cerez messing with the rationale's on my images (which we have agreed on) and now I've got you doing it. Can't anyone just leave my edits alone ... --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 19:29, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

It's not a pointless redirect. It's perfectly valid. Also I only get attached to the edits when people like you start dictating your opinion for no reason whatsoever. There is nothing wrong whatsoever with using [[Edo Tensei]] in the rationale. If you think it's pointless, fine but don't bring your opinion into something. It's starting to become annoying. Keep your opinions about what I put in rationale's out of what you are supposed to be doing, which is not stalking whatever I do reverting them. =.= Not one other user seems to give a damn about it, but you. Why does that not surprise me in the slightest ? You want to put your nose in a lot of things that really aren't a problem just to generate problems. IIRC, the link for Edo Tensei exists on OTHER USER'S UPLOADS AND IN THEIR RATIONALE and there is no problem there. Me thinks you are trying to be a nuisance to me. Nobody else cares and it's very annoying when I have opinionated edits made for no reason at all. --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 21:50, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for stepping into conversation, but I don't see any problem with it either.--Elveonora (talk) 21:47, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Ultimate, you might be an admin, but:

Is it against rules?

Does it make any harm?

I don't think there's anything bad. As he said, the majority refer to some techniques in their Japanese form.
It's easier to type Edo Tensei than "Impure world resurrection/reincarnation" IF the only redirect would be in it's Japanese form, only then it would be a problem.
Not to mention it's not just English-speaking fans/visitors that come to this site.--Elveonora (talk) 21:56, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

What Elveonora said is quite true. It does no harm at all. And the way I write the links is so that the page displays the Romaji but links to the actual named article anyway. Nothing that I am doing breaks any one of the rules, so stop making them up as you go along to piss people off. --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 22:01, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

"But that's not an excuse to have things formatted differently across the Wiki"

"But this is an English Language wiki. We have established guidelines on what get's translated, and what doesn't. Impure World Reincarnation falls into the translated"

That's true, things like "Rasengan" aren't being translated. BUT if that's the case, why not to make an exception for Edo Tensei as the majority refers to it as such, as well?
I don't watch the English anime, so I have no idea (there might be the problem) but do they say: "Summoning: Impure World Resurrection Technique!!!" ?
True it's weird to have part of the wiki one way and the rest the other... it's really not an issue though when people know what a term does refer to.--Elveonora (talk) 22:11, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

@Elveonora: They call it "Summoning Jutsu: Reanimation" in the English Dub and "Kuchiyose: Edo Tensei" in the Sub. Edo Tensei is what everyone knows it by so I don't see the issue at hand here. Almost everyone I know calls the technique Edo Tensei, so I'm pretty sure any user who comes here is going to know what it means. --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 22:14, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

TheUltimate3, can you please stop putting words in my mouth? Also that naming policy is for ARTICLES, NOT IMAGES! Jesus Christ. Everything you are saying is making you look like a total moron who makes up rules and policies and takes them out of context when he feels like it. There is NOTHING WRONG WITH WHAT I AM DOING, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS MAKING A DAMNED ISSUE OUT OF IT FOR NO APPARENT REASON! You are the most annoying admin here and I really wish you would just stop abusing your position. NOBODY ELSE, NOT EVEN CEREZ, CARES HOW THEY LINK TO PAGES IN A RATIONALE! --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 22:18, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

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Then by all means, be wrong. I don't care. Wave your banner in clear defiance!

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Problem with you is, you think everyone's wrong. In this case, the only person who's wrong is you. Your the one who is being defiant. You have also misinterpreted that Naming policy because I'm 100% sure that is intended for articles and not for anything to do with images or their rationales.

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Getting pissy doesn't mean your edits golden nuggets that are free from being altered. It's about time you stop acting like a child and accept that

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I'm not acting like a child, I'm trying to defend myself from your opinionated edits that make no sense and are not needed. If you want, I can go straight to Dantman and ask him to tell you how stupid you are being. How does that sound? --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 22:39, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

You kinda are by changing things only you seem to have a problem with. Elveonora said above that he doesn't see any issue with it.

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2) I've already told you, if I see inconsistency, I will change it. I'm not however going to dive into the image sea looking for them. If I happen to stumble across them, I will make the edit.

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Problem is, your the only one doing it, so that makes you a stalker.

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Lets take a good look at how 1 and 2 are related. You have, in the past 3 to 4 months, made overwhelmingly made the most uploads of any one user.

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So? Funny how you don't mention Cerez either, when he was doing it long before I was here =.=

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I'm not stalking your uploads, you threw a million of them at me and told me to dodge them

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Because I don't like you. You keep stalking my edits and reverting them when nobody else has an issue. I would appreciate it if you could get off my back and just stop getting involved with everything I do now. It's a burden. --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 16:16, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to respectfully ask that you stop mentioning me in every discussion you have ok? I'm getting a bit exasperated at the fact that everything you have an issue with you mention me. Argue on your own merit and not what I do or do not do because I know for a fact that I'm way too lazy to be covering a linked name with the romaji name in a simple description.--Cerez365™(talk) 16:26, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

I wasn't even referring to you in that way. I was simply pointing out that TU3 is quite wrong to say I've made the most uploads since you were also making lots of anime uploads as well and that he never complained when you did it before and that he's only complaining because I'm involved. It wasn't directed at you in any way, I was merely making an example. =.= --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 16:44, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

It doesn't matter which manner you were referring to me in, stop using me as a benchmark because the undertone you're trying to set that Ulti is playing favourites— whether intentional or no, is becoming painfully apparent. Just leave me out of it altogether because as i've said, I'm way too lazy to do [[Wind Release: Dust Cloud Technique|Fūton: Fūjin no Jutsu]] that with any image.--Cerez365™(talk) 17:04, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Nobody is asking you to do that and nor would I even ask you to do it. I'm choosing to do it on my images because I want to and since your not touching my images, I think others should do the very same --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 17:07, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

That is not the issue here, nor my concern. I've asked you already to stop using me as a benchmark, that's all I have to say.--Cerez365™(talk) 17:15, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

I would like both of you to not use my Talk Page to talk amongst yourselves >.> Cerez, don't get involved unless dragged in stupidly. Speysider, don't use Cerez for...whatever point you were trying to make. I've already told you I don't care who uploads what. If I see something I'm going to change it. And thats nice that Elveonora doesn't have a problem with it. I however do, as it shows a lack of consistency.--17:27, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

I'll only listen to you on the last point if you and ALL of the administrators get together on Skype and make a decision. I'm not going to listen to you because it sounds like it's just your opinion. Dantman did not state anything about what we discussed yesterday to do with images, as he was under the impression it was article links. So, I'm just going to keep doing what I do until some person makes a policy after discussing it with every other admin. Renegade admins annoy me when they do their own thing without consulting others >_> --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 17:29, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Do you purposely not listen to what other people or do you not just care when they don't agree with you? The naming policy was made by many users years ago. Keeping things consistent across the wiki is not only common sense, but also made by many users years ago. It's asinine for someone to even assume consistency should take a backseat just because of where it is. Goddamnnit man, use your common sense. I want consistency. I don't want things labeled different just because someone thinks he's being oh so clever (and I'm not talking about u. I'm talking about every anon that I've had the misfortune to monitor since I made keeping the Wiki consistent, vandal free, and orderly as my primary function). Renegade admins annoy you. Cool. People with delusions of grandeur do it for me.--TheUltimate3(talk) 17:38, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Also, reread what Dantman wrote.

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1)So when someone comes along and just edits the image page to clean it up and make the links conform to our naming policy for whatever reason. Since it follows a policy we're enforcing elsewhere, improves the consistency of the wiki whether we are enforcing consistency or not, and you have no ownership over the page. You have no right to object to people going and cleaning up image pages to fit the naming policy.

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I have just as much right to edit the image pages as you do. Except I have a leg to stand on (consistency) compared to you (i like X better).--TheUltimate3(talk) 17:41, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

cool site

Apologies for the caps and multi messaging. Good to know it's a bug too.—This unsigned comment was made by Mikesec256 (talk • contribs) .

Kusanagi - Oro edit

Orochimaru's body got sealed, not him. Kishimoto wouldn't draw random generic snakes moving around and getting killed, panel space can be saved for more important things. It was obviously Orochimaru burnt by Amaterasu, he wouldn't come out of Anko if he was in Totsuka Sword--Elveonora (talk) 01:41, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

The sword is stated to seal anything for all eternity, Orochimaru has obviously escaped it with only his body sucked in, his soul stayed in the "impure world" and even was watching from inside Anko since then all along. Again, the escaping snakes were obviously Orochimaru that was burnt. There aren't 2 Orochimarus, one in Totsuka and the other now walking around.--Elveonora (talk) 16:33, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

his chakra = consciousness

he didn't do the same with Sasuke, the latter absorbed his soul

there's no sealed Orochimaru

every living being has only 1 soul, there can't be 2 same people with one around and other revived

Nagato said that to ease Naruto, the same in Kushina's case

the snakes escaping and getting killed were obviously obvious, not drawn for fun

New Wikia Skin

Re: Enough

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Now the file name for that one is perfectly fine, and (logically) not a page that needs a move which would appear to be simply that it is in English. Now with that being said, the final decision here lies with Jacce as it is his decision to follow up on the Request.

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It's not just because it's English: naming technique images in Romaji is shorter. See the examples I gave to Cerez to show the major difference naming something in Romaji has over naming it in English. --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 15:10, August 23, 2012 (UTC)

Delete

Can you please delete the redirect which you left while moving this image. 12:18, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

Obito Uchiha

Thank you, for protecting the Obito page, the user that kept changing Tobi to Obito was really getting on my nerves. I ask if you can check the page for any changes the user had made.--Droidkaju (talk) 23:04, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, since this user keeps on changing everything and i have to revert everything back, can you keep the page protected temporarily.--Droidkaju (talk) 02:57, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

Hi, just a question. Shouldn't we change it from Tobi to Obito, since we all know it has been revealed. Droidkaju insisted on still using the Tobi codename. ~IndxcvNovelist(talk | contribs | PR | RLS) 21:43, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

Naruto Uzumaki page

Tense in episode articles

I noticed the Narutopedia:Writing policy says that articles should be in past tense, but it looks like the most recent episode recap pages are in the present tense. Personally, I like it in the present tense, but I'm asking because I recently cleaned up the The End of Tears page and in the process switched everything to present tense having seen the newer pages. Let me know if this was a mistake, and I'll fix it. Related question: Was my page edit appropriate? If I modified too much without using the talk page, let me know. I'm still getting a feel for the editing etiquette. Thanks! Meganeko317 (talk) 03:22, August 31, 2012 (UTC)

Apologies

Sorry for my trouble and nonsense editing and stuff, if i have a problem i will consult it with you.

Obito was 13 before the current timeline of Naruto, in Part I he would have been 26-27 years old. XImmortalAresX (talk) 15:11, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Relationships page

Very sorry about that! It's been a long while that I just forgot. ^_^; Well I already asked Jacce about the issue, but if you can do it before Jacce can, that will be great! KazeKitsune (talk) 23:02, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

Permission

Where can I get permission to edit certain articles like Naruto or Sasuke?--Itachi7000 (talk) 23:13, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

Hi Ultimate this is 6paths here again, thanks for the welcome message, I was wondering if i can have authority to edit articles, I follow what is going on here correctly so if you want another editor, I'm available :) --Naruto6paths (talk) 18:36, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the feedback, I'll get to work. --Naruto6paths (talk) 19:44, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

TheUltimate3 Sensei

Thank you admin TheUltimate3 sensei ^_^
I have something slightly trivial to ask that's really making me wonder and maybe you know and maybe you don't, I just want to know whether or not you know which anime episode Madara is supposed to debut in(as Edo Tensei of course). It's most likely you don't know the exact episode, but I don't read the manga much and maybe someone who does can calculate chapters into episodes. Whether you know or not, I appreciate your answer! 165.138.142.66 (talk) 13:36, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

Re: English variant

Oh lawdy. I didn't see that o.o" --Cerez365™(talk) 11:39, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

I'd say there's going to be an uprising but, I dunno. Seems like something we'd all just have to go with. I'm fine with either all the same.--Cerez365™(talk) 12:11, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Broken Lists

Listen, I'm not sure if you or anyone else has noticed or if it's just me. Put whenever I go to the 'List of' parts of something that involves a group, be it jutsu, people, etc, it comes up as Database Error. I'm putting these up so that people can do their searching quickly. And as soon as the originals are fixed, which I hope is soon, I intend to take the ones I put up down.

Meh, it wasn't unexpected, I just thought that after a couple of months, people would like to have quick links to particular types of moves.
So is it alright to re-add the jutsu that only involve a clone in an attack like Lightning Transmission, Clone Great Explosion, etc as Clone Techniques? Or is the offer only for the 'List of' parts?

Actually, if you think about it, attacks that involve clones in an attack, like Lightning Transmission or Naruto Uzumaki Combo, could be considered Collaboration Jutsu in a sense. Though that might be pushing it.

Also, would you mind spreading around my reason for doing what I'm doing to the big editors so that they don't undo my work?
--YoukoTaichou (talk) 01:19, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Just making sure. Most jutsu like those are listed under the Derived Jutsu list in Shadow Clone Jutsu anyway.

So I got the okay for the 'List-of' alternate links then?

Anyway, would you mind spreading the word, I'd really appreciate it; I don't really know who the 'bosses' of this wikia are.
In exchange I'll send you a youtube link to a vid that will make you die laughing.

deleted topic

The Anko one. It was brought up before but never concluded. In my opinion, canon/filler should have been separated for a long while already... sounds like lots of work, I know. Many manga/databook references can be provided that prove the sea arc to be incorrect. Basically the animator gave Anko a false background which contradicts with facts--Elveonora (talk) 02:35, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

What can I do?

What can I do to improve this wiki? Randomfvideos (talk) 01:08, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Scissor Pincers

Yes it is. While your at it, take away my rollback status because I don't want anything to do with this site, thanks largely in part to Cerez flaming me because he didn't like me tagging a page that has literally nothing important on it on the wiki. --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 23:13, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

The "other wiki"

Gladimir, c'est moi Shirley. This is my last communicã as it is no longer safe at that place. Hide yourself and wait for the signal mon ami.--Cerez365™(talk) 12:07, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Lul. Roundabout way of asking if you've seen the revived [answers wikia. Also, take your medicine :/ --Cerez365™(talk) 14:30, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Kinda. There's this vandal whose vandalism is quite distinctive. He or she erases a lot of info from articles, replacing some stuff with gibberish, and some with texts like "Great job, I never thought of it like that" or "Thanks for the answer, it all makes sense now". He or she can change their IP address across many ranges, most likely using some sort of proxy. While range-blocks can work sometimes, for example, 220.255.xxx.xxx IPs are quite common to be range-blocked here, this vandal requires a more far-reaching block. They're at it at the moment, and it's not the first time. They've been more disruptive in the past but simply blocking each IP they use is pointless, because they readily discard it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:56, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

I do think we need a bit more protection. Seems like the wikia has just been left bare for vandals to have their way with it. Except that we have good editors and such.--Cerez365™(talk) 11:27, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

You think you could try it on Lee's page yourself so that I would know what to do next time? Like right now, go to Lee's Jutsu infobox and label his Dynamic Entry as anime only. I would appreciate that.--Itachi7000 (talk) 03:39, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

Imma say this once, let this be a lesson, I don't want you calling, tweeting, chatting him or texting. If I ever catch y'all skyping, we go up and fighting, keep a blade off in my purse and yes your face I will be slic- I saw this and I just wanted you, and UltimateSupreme to know that I did not abuse any loophole. As far as I know, for a discussion like that with a sensitive time-frame on it, eleven days was more than enough time to wait for other contributors, that's all. I merely went to another sysop because one, you told us not to post there and two, I thought it would be better to ask a sysop to add the info this time. Had there been a general area where we could make sysop-level requests I'd have done it there instead. That's it, not starting an argument or anything, but I did feel that I needed to explain myself, aside from the fact that I'd have absolutely no reason to hide and do this, the policy update should be beneficial to the wikia either way.--Cerez365™(talk) 15:55, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

Well it's been exactly 2 weeks and as it seems Cerez and nobody else involved in the discussion appears to be making any attempts to ask others to post in the discussion on the image policy, I think it's safe to say that nobody cares about the change and the discussion should therefore be closed with no change to the policy. The issue being described is random because of particular users getting jealous at others because they aren't the one spamming the uploader with images. --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 12:56, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Monobook infoboxes

I think you have told me this somewhere before, but again... What was the problem with the infoboxes in monobook?--~ UltimateSupreme 12:42, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

Like what? When I check from monobook, everything appears fine...?--~ UltimateSupreme 14:41, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

Na; forget about the scripts. What do you see oddly?--~ UltimateSupreme 14:45, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

Nevermind, I found it. Some semantic parser functions were temporarily not working because wikia was doing some maintainance work. It should be fine now.~ UltimateSupreme 15:17, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Deletion tags

I don't, because the articles I make are all in the Template namespace so it won't affect anyone. All templates I create anyway all have a use so someone coming round to tag my templates with deletion for no reason wouldn't concern me in the slightest, unlike others... ;) --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 12:46, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Hey

Hey Ultimate. I have an issue I'd like you to resolve. If you could, would you hop over to my talk page and take a glance, when you have a moment? I don't want to be seen as picking on a user or creating needless drama, so I need a third party opinion. I've stepped out of the argument at this point as I could see it was going nowhere good. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 16:57, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Forum thread

Basically, I'm complaining about these changes being made without warning, without discussion and without anyone's opinions being thrown out there. Simply put, certain sysop's are changing things for no apparent reason. I don't care if it makes things easier, the simple truth of the matter is "if it's not broken, don't fix it". Nothing was wrong with the old upload form, so why is it being changed ? --SpeysiderTalk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 17:28, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

R.E Picture Policy

The filling in confuses me I try to copy other fair use rationale from other pictures but I still don't see why the wikia woon't accept it on the picture? --Jean DaichouLoves Naruto 21:33, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

Successful

How can I make my wiki successful?--
Jmootam1999 10:20, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

Although I understand your reasoning for wanting to merge the Tobi and Uchiha Obito pages, I respectfully disagree with such a course as doing so will act as an unavoidable spoiler to the casual visitor of the site who is not particularly far along in either the anime or manga.

I wonder if a spoiler bar could be programmed into pages on this site to help enthusiastic new fans avoid subjecting themselves to information about plot/character development which might take some of the wonder, intrigue, and fun out of the series? (My point is, simply stating "there may be spoilers on this site," is not only obvious and vague, but perhaps lazy as well.)

Anyway. I enjoy the site, with the exception of snide admin ego trips.

Danzō's Rank

I replied to your comment in Danzō's talk page under the section discussing his rank. Banan14kab 02:29, April 24, 2013 (UTC)