I'm cool now but I was cool before this too, and a lot of those ways are vanishing. I'm not skinny anymore, I can't embrace my love of fine wines or roller coasters, in two weeks I won't even be able to fly airplanes. Seeing these things go is tough. And the world around me sometimes just epic-fails when it comes to helping me deal with the changes.

So I would appreciate it if the world would stop:1) Addressing me as "preggo" or "mama"... It was cute at first but every so often I'd like to hear my name, to remind me it's still there.

2) Relaying traumatic childbirth stories. Especially if they're friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend (I can find all sorts of crazy stories if I dig out seven levels of separation, folks). Especially if I'm reading up on natural birth. Just FYI... if a woman WANTS a natural birth, she should be allowed to have it. Telling her "don't feel bad when you ask for the epidural!" is like telling your kid "don't feel bad when you lose the soccer game!" or telling newlyweds "don't feel bad when you get a divorce!" I mean statistically, you're preparing them, right? NO PEOPLE IT'S NOT NICE. A lot of women who want a natural birth get one, and they're not "magic women", there's a little luck involved but it's mostly determination and prep work. I've talked to them, and not a single one has said "Well childbirth was just so super easy for me".

3) Commenting on my size. I've always had this, I've always been really tall, and when lots of people point it out I feel like a freak. But when you're pregnant there's a whole other level of people asking how far along you are, then telling you their opinion on whether or not you look like it. Stop looking at me. On days when I feel beautiful I just want to feel beautiful. On days when I feel like a beached whale I just want to feel like a beached whale.

4) Ignoring other things going on in my life. I'm doing a lot of interesting things right now besides incubating, which doesn't really take up much time or effort, it pretty much happens on its own. No I'm not "ready for this baby yet", I'm two months away, why would I spend every weekend setting up the nursery?

What should you do? Ask me what's going on in my life, and if I don't bring up pregnancy don't change the subject to pregnancy. Tell me I picked out some nice clothes today... it takes a lot of effort, I'm wearing things to work I NEVER would have worn to work, let me know it's okay. Let me know I'm fabulous, pregnancy is fabulous, childbirth is empowering and I am the same strong woman I've always been. Offer to buy me a beer when this is all over. Let me know there will still be a group camping trip that I can go on in September. Remind me that my life is still mine.

My friend Amy went through the same thing with people. Except she's not a super nifty engineer, she's a super nifty housewife. So there wasn't much else going on at the time anyway. But she was always happy to hang out with me since I didn't comment on her weight or repeatedly say things like, "You look like you're about to pop!"

I was pretty certain that she knew she was pregnant so I didn't have to remind her every time I saw her, you know?

spacefem wrote: A lot of women who want a natural birth get one, and they're not "magic women", there's a little luck involved but it's mostly determination and prep work. I've talked to them, and not a single one has said "Well childbirth was just so super easy for me".

There's alot of women in rural Asia, Africa, & South America etc who don't practice any other type of childbirth besides what we call natural. And since their population has been kicking ours ass for awhile the natural way can't be too bad a method. As far as I know, how easy the childbirth goes varies woman to woman, some easier than others, obviously some not so easy. If it's any consolation, I remember someone saying that if you're someone to whom labor is difficult your brain will afterwards edit out most of the discomfort you experienced.

And here's a promise . If I ever get the chance to meet you, I will buy you a beer and completely ignore the fact of your motherhood unless you mention it first.

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And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.

Sonic# wrote:If these opinions don't matter to you at all, then you are unfit for conversation

For my mum, labour was less painful than period cramps. Granted, killer period cramps run in the family, but still, not as terrible as some say.

I think you're still awesome, Lady Spacefem, and it sucks that you have to take a break from flying planes. When you got your pilot's license I was so excited that I told a bunch of people who have never heard of you that you got your pilot's license.

Also, I will spot you a beer at spacefemcon, and I think that shirt you're wearing is awesome.

If I bang my head against a brick wall five times and get five lumps, why am I surprised when I bang it a sixth time and get a sixth lump?

"Isn't it funny that the only time your race or gender is questioned is when you're not a white man?" - Wanda Sykes

monk wrote:There's alot of women in rural Asia, Africa, & South America etc who don't practice any other type of childbirth besides what we call natural. And since their population has been kicking ours ass for awhile the natural way can't be too bad a method.

I love you for this.

I have an "affirmation list" of things people are going to be allowed to say to me during childbirth, and I'm so adding this to it.

It's something I'm pretty conscious of,after somebody has a kid too. I feel bad if all I ask them about is the baby, so I make a point of asking non-kid-related questions. It would really bug me if people talked about the size of my belly too. That's just so awkward. They're blatantly staring at you!

A girl in my sculpture class this semester had a natural birth in her own house without even a midwife (she didn't show up in time) and she said it was way easy for her. Her mom held her hand and she squatted so gravity helped and it went super fast and everything was great.

It sucks that you can't go on rollercoasters or fly, I didn't even think about those things. At least when you have your kid she'll pretty much be the coolest kid ever because her mom will take her on lots of rollercoasters and fly her around and drink good wine with her!

Nameless bodies, in unremembered roomsKnow how a man becomes a beast when the wolfbane blooms

I have a teacher who's five or six months along now, and her stomach was starting to show, so we asked a bunch of baby related questions and hoped that she didn't mind. But yeah, I didn't know how she could still stand up for hours on end in a lecture hall or a lab class while pregnant. Guess this just shows that pregnant women aren't fragile =\.

All this talk about childbirth and epidurals are starting to get a mite bit scary.

A woman who followed her around Crate and Barrel for half an hour saying "Oh my god when's your due date? You're going to explode any second now, right? Should I call you someone?" My mother was five months pregnant at the time.

A woman who once saw my mom at 7 months minding me (age 8), my sister (age 6), and my female cousin (age 5) in an airport while our dads and my male cousin were off getting our luggage, sniffed at my mom and said "This one better be a boy, lady."

A man (same trip) who told her that it wasn't his problem she got knocked up when she asked him to not blow cigarette smoke in her face at Sea World.

Countless people drilling her about her eating and exercise habits and telling her she would lose her baby unless she changed them.

Countless questions about WHETHER OR NOT MY BROTHER WAS AN ACCIDENT. etc. It's amazing the shit people will say.

She also told me she frequently wished that she could just "take it off for a couple hours," and told me that pregnancy was really a gross nasty awful experience physically, socially, and in how much people force you to give up. But she followed it up immediately by telling me that actually having a baby, and a child, is the best thing ever. It'll be over soon and you'll have a child, and that's going to kick a LOT of ass.

(Oh, and my mom's standard response to invasive questions about the due date, if it was an accident, etc.: "How soon do you need to know?" The general response is a disarmed silence that translates to "oh, right, I don't.")

Do you work with or create DAP boards? I was just reading some info on the Microstar Laboratories DAP boards that are used by Scaled Composites.

Oh, and you'll soon be a mother? Cool. Instead of regaling you with birth stories, I'll jump ahead and share one of my "new Mom" experiences.

Three months after my second son was born, my husband and I attended a party hosted by his company. At that time I had a baby and a toddler, as my sons were born 20 months apart. My days were consumed with nursing the baby, diaper changes, laundry and other exciting endeavors.

I'd already learned that people tend to dismiss a nursing-a-baby-stay-at-home-mom as unworthy of intelligent conversation. So, this time I had a new response ready when people asked. "...and what do you do?"

My new job designation, and reply became: "I'm raising the future leaders of the free world, it's a tough job, but someone has to do it".

Now, this still did not create a spontaneous burst of eager conversationalists, but I so enjoyed the startled looks, that it was well worth it.

The Teacher: “With all the social and medical advancements we can bring to the Independents, why would they fight so hard against us?”

Young River Tam: “We meddle.” “People don’t like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think. Don’t run, don’t walk. We’re in their homes and in their heads and we haven’t the right. We’re meddlesome.”

I got lucky. No one really touched me when I was knocked up. At my job, regular customers were like, "OMG! How far along are you now?" I think to myself, "Well, the same as when I told you yesterday." Then they say, "YOU ARE FREAKING HUGE!" Well, I had a 9lbs. 4.2 oz, 22 inches long child. That may be the reason.

I'm tall too spacefem. I know being a tall man is different than being a tall woman, but I do get singled out a lot with weird comments about my height. Sometimes I even hit my head on doorways and people laugh about it, thinking it's really slapstick. There are times when I would just like to be looked at as a human and not as "the tall guy".

The artist's job is not to succumb to despair, but to find an antidote to the emptiness of existence. -W.A.

I forgot to add that I hope you do do it Spacefem. I didn't but almost wished I did. I wound up getting a C-Section and almost dying so maybe a natural birth would have been less painful. I hope you do what you think is best for both of you and good luck Lady S.

Girls are better than boys, until they are teenagers. I thought I was mad I had a boy instead of a girl until I had to have the "period" talk, hormones, sex, boys, etc. My husband and I had a deal that whatever sex the baby was, that person has to have the sex talk. THANK GOD it was a boy. With me dancing both ways of the sexuality line, it saves me an awkward conversation. "Mommy, why do you like girls more than boys?" *shudders*

My mom had a "natural" birth with my sister and an epidural with me... she says she was a lot more out-of-it with my sister because of the pain. Not poo-pooing natural births, just providing the other viewpoint... it's a personal decision, no one should be getting on your case about it either way.