Why on earth would Stark become Director of SHIELD? MCU Stark is nothing like 616 Stark in terms of politics and philosophy. MCU Stark hates SHIELD, and everyone in it. Not to mention that he does not and has not ever worked for SHIELD in the MCU.

I highly doubt War Machine will be in this. And honestly, he shouldn't be. It's alreayd too crowded, and he'd really have no place in this story.

The earliest I ever want to see Rhodes show up in an Avengers film is A3, where they'll be facing Thanos. And if its anything like the comics, then every hero possible in the MCU will be showing up for that fight, including War Machine.

If by "fascinating," you mean "totally out of character, boring and counterintuitive," then yeah, I could see it. People pay good money to see Iron Man repulsor-blast stuff to kingdom come, not Tony Stark doing a Power Point presentation at staff meetings.

Storyline progression requires *progress*. There has been *none* in that direction, thus a plot wherein it suddenly happens is out of nowhere and bad writing.

Not sure what films you're watching but I've seen significant progress between Iron Man 1 and The Avengers. And he's still not there yet but by the time we get to Avengers 3 he might be.

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If by "fascinating," you mean "totally out of character, boring and counterintuitive," then yeah, I could see it. People pay good money to see Iron Man repulsor-blast stuff to kingdom come, not Tony Stark doing a Power Point presentation at staff meetings.

I dunno, seems like people enjoy RDJ's humor and attitude just as much, if not more, than the "repulsor-blasting". Especially if you've got a dozen other characters that can do that.

Not sure what films you're watching but I've seen significant progress between Iron Man 1 and The Avengers. And he's still not there yet but by the time we get to Avengers 3 he might be.

I dunno, seems like people enjoy RDJ's humor and attitude just as much, if not more, than the "repulsor-blasting". Especially if you've got a dozen other characters that can do that.

There's exactly one other character that can fire repulsors, so I'm not sure where you're getting a dozen.

As for Director of SHIELD: I see no evidence of a "story progression" anywhere in the Iron Man or Avenger movies that point towards Tony taking on that role at some point.

If anything, *Steve Rogers* is far more likely to assume that role by the end of CATWS than Tony Stark. He's actually got the chops and experience within the agency, as well as the level-headedness and leadership qualities to be promoted to the Directorate. That could very well be what Joe Russo was implying when he talked about "a very big shift at the end of this movie" for the MCU.

There's exactly one other character that can fire repulsors, so I'm not sure where you're getting a dozen.

Wow, you actually took that literally.

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As for Director of SHIELD: I see no evidence of a "story progression" anywhere in the Iron Man or Avenger movies that point towards Tony taking on that role at some point.

If you're looking for someone saying "hey y'know Tony would be a good director of SHIELD one day" as a sign of progression then you're right. But rarely are things so obvious.

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If anything, *Steve Rogers* is far more likely to assume that role by the end of CATWS than Tony Stark. He's actually got the chops and experience within the agency, as well as the level-headedness and leadership qualities to be promoted to the Directorate. That could very well be what Joe Russo was implying when he talked about "a very big shift at the end of this movie" for the MCU.

I agree, Definitely. I didn't say Tony Stark would be the best, or most likely. I was responding to previous posters who mentioned it, and saying how interesting it would be.

IM3 has essentially cemented Rhodey as an agent of the POTUS first and foremost. The best we could hope for is a quick cameo of him taking out some baddies and that's it. He won't feature prominently in any Avengers film; take that to the bank. Feige and Co. simply aren't taking him in that direction, and it's obvious. With that being said, I like what was done with him in IM3. I would have liked to see him actually kick some butt in the armor, but still, as a character he was given more exploration than both of the previous films combined.

Tony alone has access to all of SHIELD's secrets. Tony alone has been known to run a large organization with loose ties to the military. Tony is the only one whose walked onto the helicarrier and stared giving orders and trying to figure out how Fury runs things. Him being anti-establishment doesn't prevent him from giving orders in establishments, or else he wouldn't have a huge company. It'd be a good story... too bad there's not a comic book story to draw from on that issue.

I think a War Machine cameo could be pretty awesome. It's never too crowded for a plot-relevant cameo.

To me, I feel like War Machine should just continue as a supporting character in the Iron Man movies.

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Tony alone has access to all of SHIELD's secrets. Tony alone has been known to run a large organization with loose ties to the military. Tony is the only one whose walked onto the helicarrier and stared giving orders and trying to figure out how Fury runs things. Him being anti-establishment doesn't prevent him from giving orders in establishments, or else he wouldn't have a huge company. It'd be a good story... too bad there's not a comic book story to draw from on that issue.

Yeah, but Tony can't *buy* his way into SHIELD. Just because he *thinks* he's the boss when he swaggers onto the Helicarrier bridge doesn't make him the boss. It's still a government agency and a bureaucracy, and Tony Stark isn't part of it. Nor would he want to be.

To me, I feel like War Machine should just continue as a supporting character in the Iron Man movies.

There may not be any more Iron Man movies for some time. I don't want WM disappearing for years just because there's no IM movie, he should appear somewhere else. I still think that Falcon is much morel likely to appear in AOU than WM.

Lots of 'huge parts' in this movie already. lol it's gonna have to have a LOTR run-time to avoid getting crammed.

I mean, it's great that Rhodey's going to have a role, and that Hawkeye is supposedly going to be done justice. Add on whatever Banner's up to, and Black Widow, and I gotta wonder if maybe the main 3 might be pushed to the side lines a bit.