Video: Ronbots heckle Rudy on Michigan ferry ride

posted at 4:47 pm on September 25, 2007 by Allahpundit

Amusing, especially the moron who intones theatrically about lies and the light of day in the second clip. David Freddoso quotes a Detroit Free Press story reporting, per one eyewitness, that some of the heckling turned Truther, as I imagine heckling by Paul supporters is wont to do. Follow the DFP link and scroll down to the comments, though, and you’ll see one witness claiming that that was only one or two people and they were drowned out. There’s no mention of Trutherism in this purported eyewitness account, either. The Paul nuts typically aren’t shy about advertising their nuttier beliefs so the fact that there’s no evidence of it in the clips makes me think there wasn’t much of it. And as for this:

Ed Wyszynski, a longtime party activist from Eagle, said the Paul supporters threatened to throw Giuliani overboard and harrassed him as he took shelter in the ferry’s pilothouse for the 15-minute journey back to Mackinaw City.

If it were true and/or serious, Rudy’s camp surely would have mentioned it afterwards, wouldn’t they?

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Does anyone know if Ron Paul is aware of the type of people who have become his supporters? Or if he too is a closet “Truther”?

We know he thinks all wars are bad and America should never fight a war again and that we provoked 9/11 with our involvement in the Middle East. It is but a small step further to start wanting to “ask questions” about what REALLY happened on that day.

Either way, the man is a complete disgrace, imho. The nomination cannot come soon enough so that I never have to listen to the man’s whiney, male version of Betty White voice again. Ditto for his ouster, so that a true Republican will once again fill his House seat.

Exit question: are these nerd/freaks former GOP voters that we are in the process of losing (when we catapult RP back to the 1930s), or have they never voted before?

(I intentionally left out the possibility that they voted Democrat, but oh, that it were true).

Jaibones on September 25, 2007 at 6:37 PM

All of the above, but I suspect mostly those who’ve never voted before. Traditionally the 18-25 year old demographic doesn’t vote in high numbers.

I honestly don’t think many are former Republicans who (for good reason) have become disgruntled with the party. Whatever he has right with regards to spending and the role of the federal government, he’s so wrong on foreign policy and defense to explain it that way.

The more extreme someone is, the more devoted their followers. From Hitler to Charles Manson to David Koresh to Ron Paul- the outspoken nutjobs won’t have a lot of followers, but the ones they have will kill or die for them.

The Audio is completely out of sync with the video. I can’t tell who’s saying what. Let’s make this clear. Ron Paulians are Libertarians and are more like Anarchists than conservatives. Libertarians don’t stand for anything at all but free unfettered chaos. Libertarians claim they are like Objectivists but in reality even Objectivists stand for morality. Libertarians are in many ways like the left, they distort the Bill or Rights to claim that any form of government is not not welcome at all.

Libertarians are in many ways like the left, they distort the Bill or Rights to claim that any form of government is not not welcome at all.

They are vile bunch, and very very confused.

Egfrow on September 25, 2007 at 7:29 PM

That’s an exaggeration- mainstream libertarians mostly want to adhere to a strict constructionist view of the constitution in moving power back to the states and a limited government role in commerce and individual rights.

Yes, they usually go too far, but I largely sympathise with 80% of what they stand for; however Ron Paul focuses on the other 20%.

Ron Paulians are Libertarians and are more like Anarchists than conservatives. Libertarians don’t stand for anything at all but free unfettered chaos. Libertarians claim they are like Objectivists but in reality even Objectivists stand for morality.

Libertarians stand for morality, they believe what the government is doing is immoral. And think people have the right to make their own decisions for good or ill.

Yes, they usually go too far, but I largely sympathise with 80% of what they stand for; however Ron Paul focuses on the other 20%.

Ditto, that’s what annoys me so much about Ron Paul. If this was peacetime I’d probably vote for him.

Does anyone know if Ron Paul is aware of the type of people who have become his supporters? Or if he too is a closet “Truther”?

My friend who works for Ron Paul’s campaign is convinced Paul has little idea about the cranks. And he says that the people he works with aren’t truthers, and the people high in Paul’s campaign that he’s talked to aren’t either.

I was there at Mackinac and experienced Ron Paul cult members supporters first hand. I blogged about it. One man had 2 tourists on Mackinac Island trapped. He ranted that Iraq was an unconstitutional war. He also explained that Bush is creating a “New American Union” combining Canada, the U.S., and Mexico. He said the dollar would be abolished, replaced by the new currency “The America” .

I was bamboozled by a Paulie guy at the booth I worked at. He was wearing a press credential, so I stupidly thought he was with the press. He asked me why I supported Condi for VP, and I explained . So far so good. Then he raised his voice and asked what Condi thought about The New American Union. I explained that she was a true American patriot and would probably fight against it.

He seemed satisfied with the answer, but disappointed that I didn’t roll my eyes, call him a kook, or tell him to register Democrat.

This is what I’ve been saying from the start…
Some of his support comes from some fringe elements within the R’s but most of them are certainly trying to boost him in an effort to attach a “whack-job” asterisk to the other candidates. If they aren’t D’s then they are simple, nutter, anarchists.

If you look at the list of people who are spaming digg on Paul’s behalf it’s radical libertarian (some to the point of anarchy) groups.

It was posted on HotAir awhile a go. Do a search on Ron Paul Digg and it should pop up.

I don’t agree with the theory that Ron Paul is being propped up by Democrats. There’s more than enough radicals of all stripes who agree enough with Ron Paul to make the noise we are hearing on Paul’s behalf. Especially if they are net savvy.