MARIJUANA LEGALIZATION! :)

In Colorado, a court has ruled that an employer can fire or not hire because of marijuana showing up in drug testing, regardless of it being legal recreationally by state law, regardless of it being for medical purposes, because marijuana use is still illegal by federal law.

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If the feds move it off the schedule I list, which is such a giant crock of horseshit for it to be there, this ruling would have no further legal basis. Hence the specific language of that being OK because it still violates federal law. This indicates to me that beyond that, there isn't a legal justification for not hiring if pot is legal. Firing for a positive test post accident or injury is also shaky to me. Why do we automatically assume if someone has an accident that it was drug related? Even if they do test positive, how does that prove they were high when the accident occurred? Just seems like justification not to pay for someone hurt on the job, etc., based on specious logic.

If all goes as it should and mj is legalized the board, including federally, it's possible that employment standards have to change. Weed won't be illegal, so if that comes up on a urine test, you can't get fired for it unless it impairs your work. Same as booze.

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Well, I think it should be barred from being tested for at all if it becomes legal. Just like alcohol.

Oh, and for the record. That was an awful company to work for. The care very little about their employees and they pay terribly. I doubt it's changed in the years since.

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I dunno. Perhaps they still don’t pay much after all the charitable donations they made recently, like the $100 million donation to the New York-Presbyterian Hospital, and the $25 million grant to the United Negro College Fund. Evil Ba$tards those Koch's are for donating to the arts, education, and medical research! Evil I say!

I dunno. Perhaps they still don’t pay much after all the charitable donations they made recently, like the $100 million donation to the New York-Presbyterian Hospital, and the $25 million grant to the United Negro College Fund. Evil Ba$tards those Koch's are for donating to the arts, education, and medical research! Evil I say!

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Their charitable donations don't make them any less sucky to work for. No equivalence at all between the two. They treat employees like crap and pay for sh!t. I doubt if any of their employees would be OK with low wages so they can give to charity. Pretty flimsy argument. And who appointed you their defenders? You ever worked for them? Unless you have, the validity of your opinion on it, especially when from the angle of an unrelated topic, is zero. I haven't even gotten into the people that have died or been disabled due to the cuts in safety and maintenance they implemented at that site in the name of profits. I am sure your a big fan of blood diamonds and child labor too.

After passing committee, there is a hard push to advance medical marijuana legislation to a vote before the session soon lets out. There is some contention amongst the republicans because our governor (R) supports a narrower legalization of only marijuana oil extract for medical purposes, and the leaders of the House Republican majority says they’re opposed to the narrower legislation favored by the governor because the U.S. Food and Drug Administration hasn’t approved it. Democrats just want to “party on dude.”

I’m curious about something since it will come up here if the law passes. Has anyone had experience in that if an employer has drug testing as a condition of employment and considers marijuana to be a drug voiding employment, can they still do so if the medical marijuana legislation is passed? Or will they be forced change policies, or make exceptions if there is a doctor’s note?

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Just saw on the news here in Spokane that the first Spokane resident to purchase it legally was seen by someone who knew him and where he worked and called in and told his employer that the guy had just been on the news, buying grass. His boss texted him, told him he was going to have to come in for a drug test, which he failed and was promptly fired. It's going to be interesting to see if this will hold up in court. He didn't do anything illegal and he was not 'using' when he was at work.

I dunno. Perhaps they still don’t pay much after all the charitable donations they made recently, like the $100 million donation to the New York-Presbyterian Hospital, and the $25 million grant to the United Negro College Fund. Evil Ba$tards those Koch's are for donating to the arts, education, and medical research! Evil I say!

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Honestly, if I had to give the nod to either 1) a company who treated employees crappy but were generous with charities or 2) a company who paid and treated employees well but didn't donate much if anything to charities, I'd pick No. 2 every time. No question.

Honestly, if I had to give the nod to either 1) a company who treated employees crappy but were generous with charities or 2) a company who paid and treated employees well but didn't donate much if anything to charities, I'd pick No. 2 every time. No question.

Honestly, if I had to give the nod to either 1) a company who treated employees crappy but were generous with charities or 2) a company who paid and treated employees well but didn't donate much if anything to charities, I'd pick No. 2 every time. No question.

With so much real science behind what it really is and does and the ease of availability of it, the current generations do not see pot as evil anymore

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I have to respectfully disagree with you there, as at least over here, there still are a large amount of people in my age group (mid-teens) who believe that pot should be illegal. A minority probably, but still quite a large number. I would say that, to be perfectly honest, I don't really approve of legalising pot, I don't see the need to legalise yet another addictive substance (and that is probably the most conservative thing I'll ever say ).

However, I don't pretend to know much about it, so I could be persuaded, my opinion is not all that firm compared to my views on other things (the economy, war etc).

I would say that, to be perfectly honest, I don't really approve of legalising pot, I don't see the need to legalise yet another addictive substance (and that is probably the most conservative thing I'll ever say ).

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Really, that's quite understandable. To me, at least, it's much the same as the government running a chance game (ie., lottery). Or games. Really? You want to promote vice? Make it more accessible? Make it easier for people to succumb to its shallow charms

But the other end is making this popular but rather benign intoxicant a cause for ruining people's lives and putting them in prison. And I've seen it, I've been in the system that does that, and I just don't think that we get the results we want from that approach.

Plus we're criminalizing a substance that has apparent therapeutic and agriculture benefit.

You add up the A + B elements of that equation, and it doesn't equal C, Criminalization, to me.