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Pengcab had right to vote because of some Province have big badminton population and contribution (Province in Java).
If only Pengda who has right to vote, how is distribution number of votes every province ?

Sutiyoso didn't resign. His term will just end in a few months... just like George W. Bush... INA squad Pelatnas squad reduced to 30? Really? That would be quite a change... Well, if they don't have enough money, then yeah, reduce the size of the main team thus reducing the funds needed... In business, it is called 'downsizing'...

Or call it "restructuring" of the Pelatnas to get rid of all the "fats"

I thought most fans here are pretty satisfied with 1 Gold, 1 Silver and 1 Bronzes we got in Beijing 2008, more than what we won in Athens 2004 anyway (1 Gold and 2 Bronzes). Our target were in MD and XD and we had 2 pairs securing Final placings. We also had a bonus of Maria Kristin winning a bronze. Still not satisfied and disappointed with the performances? OMG....

Another sign that some ppl higher-up in PBSI simply don't have a clue what are they talking abt....geez....

I thought most fans here are pretty satisfied with 1 Gold, 1 Silver and 1 Bronzes we got in Beijing 2008, more than what we won in Athens 2004 anyway (1 Gold and 2 Bronzes). Our target were in MD and XD and we had 2 pairs securing Final placings. We also had a bonus of Maria Kristin winning a bronze. Still not satisfied and disappointed with the performances? OMG....

Another sign that some ppl higher-up in PBSI simply don't have a clue what are they talking abt....geez....

This is not first time..mostly PENGDAs just know how to complain..asking for fund but those funds were not used properly to train their own players......sometimes...you feel you want to slap their faces.......

This is not first time..mostly PENGDAs just know how to complain..asking for fund but those funds were not used properly to train their own players......sometimes...you feel you want to slap their faces.......

true that!

...but maybe, there's no harm in pushing our players further by complaining excessively...perhaps its time for INA to target bigger goals instead of getting one or two golds from one or two sports only...the fact that the single gold medal was delivered through badminton says it all...its the only sport that we can actually compete with players world wide, we did well!...pengda's, pengcab's and so on should file their complaints toward other sports besides badminton that had failed to deliver medals

Pengcab had right to vote because of some Province have big badminton population and contribution (Province in Java).
If only Pengda who has right to vote, how is distribution number of votes every province ?

Please check with the PBSI people you know, Sandy... ever since the new AD/ART of 2005, 1 Pengda get one vote. There are 32 Pengda-s at this time. So, 32 total votes. Pengcab does not get to vote at that level.

As for the size of the badminton population... even though we all pretty much know that Java island has more players than other islands, but there is no official data to support this... We have not done any census in recent memory... nor do we have any 'active badminton player' member data... [unlike the French Badminton Association and Badminton England]

Originally Posted by Jagdpanther

I think it's human nature: never satisfied.

You got 1 gold, you want 2. And so on, and so on...

That's true... After 1 pretty wife, then how about 2 or 3?

Originally Posted by nick.h

true that!
pengda's, pengcab's and so on should file their complaints toward other sports besides badminton that had failed to deliver medals

These Pengda and Pengcab that we are talking about are Pengda PBSI and Pengcab PBSI, not KONI... Thus, they can only talk about badminton...

Yes, you're right... unfortunately...

Originally Posted by huangkwokhau

This is not first time..mostly PENGDAs just know how to complain..asking for fund but those funds were not used properly to train their own players......sometimes...you feel you want to slap their faces.......

Waaa... even after all those years in the US, you still know INA badminton world very well, Hau-ge... even to the complaining behaviour of our Pengda-s... You're actually absolutely correct about all this.

Waaa... even after all those years in the US, you still know INA badminton world very well, Hau-ge... even to the complaining behaviour of our Pengda-s... You're actually absolutely correct about all this.

Note: they are annoying, but they are a fact of life in PBSI...

....remember those news/inputs during last year's meeting in SOLO?
Also Ricky has a backing that is willingly to build nice stadium for PENGDA ( mostly for badminton)....guess what? they wanted more money instead....whats the hell??....PENGDA will not provide land for nice stadium......I bet that same complains will be addressed in next meeting....what a waste and ineffective way we build our INA badminton....!

....remember those news/inputs during last year's meeting in SOLO?
Also Ricky has a backing that is willingly to build nice stadium for PENGDA ( mostly for badminton)....guess what? they wanted more money instead....whats the hell??....PENGDA will not provide land for nice stadium......I bet that same complains will be addressed in next meeting....what a waste and ineffective way we build our INA badminton....!

Ha ha ha...

By the way, Hau-ge, the forces of good are well on the way to winning over the dark side... the end-battle will arrive soon... After that, we hope a new era will start... this new era may not be the most glorious or the most glamorous, but it might be the most crucial in laying strong foundations for all of us...

By the way, Hau-ge, the forces of good are well on the way to winning over the dark side... the end-battle will arrive soon... After that, we hope a new era will start... this new era may not be the most glorious or the most glamorous, but it might be the most crucial in laying strong foundations for all of us...

By the way, Hau-ge, the forces of good are well on the way to winning over the dark side... the end-battle will arrive soon... After that, we hope a new era will start... this new era may not be the most glorious or the most glamorous, but it might be the most crucial in laying strong foundations for all of us...

Just read Icuk's self nomination of himself in Bola, claiming he got support from some 25 Provinces.....I simply wanna puke after reading that disgusting news

Just read Icuk's self nomination of himself in Bola, claiming he got support from some 25 Provinces.....I simply wanna puke after reading that disgusting news

Not just you... but virtually everybody who is decent-minded in INA badminton feel the same way... I think the general concensus is that: if Icuk is selected as the new PBSI head, all the good people, coaches, and players will most probably quit being involved in PBSI...

In recent speeches, Icuk said that when he is the PBSI head, he will change the current power injustice, which include:
- domination of PB. Tangkas in the coaching staff....
- Most of the coaches and players are either not from the correct race or correct religion... [the usual pre-reformation hate-profiling]