LOL whot? to all the knee-jerk reactions saying that Rafa doesn't have a chance to beat Djoko again.

IMO Rafa's level of tennis was good enough to win Wimbledon. He should have been able to find a way to win the final, especially since he had a great serving day. Of course, there are some technical and tactical things that he can certainly improve. If he can play well against everyone, why can't he do the same against Djoko?

It's all MENTAL, and unless Rafa figures it out, it's going to be the same banana the next time they meet. Rafa has said as much in his presser.

Their match-up is always going to be about who plays the big points better, and especially in their last three matches, Rafa has been the one to blink first during the tail end of sets/matches. Against everyone else, Rafa is the one who wins the important points, and against Djoko, he seems to be afraid to lose the point, instead of trying to win the point. Rafa has got to take it to him the next time they meet.

I hope he was mightily pissed at the way he played in this final, possibly his worst performance in a grand slam final considering that he's a two-time champion and he was playing a first-time finalist. But Nadal will surely learn from this---he has always been a student of the game. He knows what he has to do, but he needs to have right mindset in order to execute it. One can only hope that the next time they meet, he will be up to the task.

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This is the best post on the subject in this thread.

First of all, it is silly to assume that anyone, not just Nadal, will never have a blip on their career just because they've won a lot. People get their expectations up so high, it's ridiculous. Everyone knows what Nadal should do. Yeah, right. He just needs to play each point like he did in the past without looking ahead.

Right now Rafa is in a slump regarding Djoker, for whatever reason, for all we know it may not even be tennis related.

He didn't play the last matches against Djokovic at a very high level, and this is what happens. But it'll pass.

And if you're watching, Djokovic isn't playing at the high level he started out the year with either. Some people are being blinded by the wins. If Novak all out dominates I will eat my hat. I simply don't see it in the cards.

This surprises me from him. I mean you can be happy and proud of your friend but this is too much. He's good friends with Feliciano and of course feliciano is good friends with Rafa so I would have thought he would be a bit more respectable with this. Might be a bit more classless than how Noles brother was on twitter.
I wonder which serb's next to show their respects? Noles mum has spoken, Janko has been making himself clear.Mister Miyagi voice: those that get to the top with arrogance, fall harder to the bottom with deep shame :mrgreen: Good luck Novak

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And this is the bottom line.

Pride and arrogance will do you in every time.

Sometimes people have to be built up in order for people to know them when you they get knocked down.

Buddy, I didn't say Nadal is finished. Nor did I say he definitely will not win more. That's ridiculous.

My point is that it's unreasonable and unrealistic to expect Nadal to magically start beating Djoker in what has traditionally been the worst part of his season. There are no overnight solutions to beating Djokovic. If there were, Nadal would have made the changes before Wimbledon final itself.

To counter Novak, Rafael will need to become a better player, overall. This will take time, and if you are a realist you would acknowledge that early 2012 is the soonest for this.

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At last I'm with you about your realistic opinion.:wink:

I really hope that he finds solutions of this Novak Complex as soon as possible !

Oh please. Cause it was going swimmingly well with all the trolls in this thread? :lol: I posted it because Janko posting that pic was kind of relating to rafa if you read the cap. Anyway Janko replied to the Rafa mob on twitter.

jajajaja. I'm loving all the ones going on about being examples for children. Do they really give a freak.

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What tipsy posted is classless and rude. His response proves once again that he is classless, rude and maybe drunk. And a moron.

Well there we are. After tennis we may well see more of Rafa because the guy who won the latest golf tournamant here- Darren Clarke- was 44. Rafa you could take the world on in golf after you have finished with tennis. If he gives the same dedication to professional golf as he has to tennis then wow !!

Well there we are. After tennis we may well see more of Rafa because the guy who won the latest golf tournamant here- Darren Clarke- was 44. Rafa you could take the world on in golf after you have finished with tennis. If he gives the same dedication to professional golf as he has to tennis then wow !!

Its amazing that anyone could think Nadal's issues against Djoker are mental. Its so obvious that it is just a terrible matchup, Rafa just doesn't have a game that can beat Djoker 2.0. It won't matter how many fist pumps or vamoses he does.

Nadal himself has said that, I don't know why his fans can't accept this. He will have to work hard and retool his game, go against his natural defensive tendencies and standing 15ft back. Unfortunately those changes are also going to hurt his chances at the Fo going forward, if he decides to make them.

Like it or not, Rafa is a clay court specialist who will always be in trouble on a fast court against the top players.

Its amazing that anyone could think Nadal's issues against Djoker are mental. Its so obvious that it is just a terrible matchup, Rafa just doesn't have a game that can beat Djoker 2.0. It won't matter how many fist pumps or vamoses he does.

Nadal himself has said that, I don't know why his fans can't accept this. He will have to work hard and retool his game, go against his natural defensive tendencies and standing 15ft back. Unfortunately those changes are also going to hurt his chances at the Fo going forward, if he decides to make them.

Like it or not, Rafa is a clay court specialist who will always be in trouble on a fast court against the top players.

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BS. It's clear as day that a lot of Nadal's problems right now with Djokovic are mental. How else to you explain the constant choking away of service games that he needs to hold onto to either stay in a set or a match? Rafa had him on the ropes in the first set and a half in IW this year,and had he not choked he would have won that title. It is clear that since Nadal has declined so much he is not the same beast he used to be mentally. Burnout has sent players to early retirement(Borg),or has just left them vulnerable to players they used to have at least a chance at beating. Burnout is a big problem for Rafa right now,and it shows big time.

Its amazing that anyone could think Nadal's issues against Djoker are mental. Its so obvious that it is just a terrible matchup, Rafa just doesn't have a game that can beat Djoker 2.0. It won't matter how many fist pumps or vamoses he does.

Nadal himself has said that, I don't know why his fans can't accept this. He will have to work hard and retool his game, go against his natural defensive tendencies and standing 15ft back. Unfortunately those changes are also going to hurt his chances at the Fo going forward, if he decides to make them.

Like it or not, Rafa is a clay court specialist who will always be in trouble on a fast court against the top players.

Its amazing that anyone could think Nadal's issues against Djoker are mental. Its so obvious that it is just a terrible matchup, Rafa just doesn't have a game that can beat Djoker 2.0. It won't matter how many fist pumps or vamoses he does.

Nadal himself has said that, I don't know why his fans can't accept this. He will have to work hard and retool his game, go against his natural defensive tendencies and standing 15ft back. Unfortunately those changes are also going to hurt his chances at the Fo going forward, if he decides to make them.

Like it or not, Rafa is a clay court specialist who will always be in trouble on a fast court against the top players.

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I feel sad for you that you're so blind that you're missing the wonderful tennis that is played by Rafa. Doesn't say much for all the other tennis players he regularly beats since he wins with his apparently crappy game.

2. Do you really have to pollute this thread with your hideous presence and your ugly avatar? It was created by Rafa fans for Rafa fans. You can always open a thread for Rafa haters and enjoy your misshapen life there unless your only delight is spilling dirt.

Its amazing that anyone could think Nadal's issues against Djoker are mental. Its so obvious that it is just a terrible matchup, Rafa just doesn't have a game that can beat Djoker 2.0. It won't matter how many fist pumps or vamoses he does.

Nadal himself has said that, I don't know why his fans can't accept this. He will have to work hard and retool his game, go against his natural defensive tendencies and standing 15ft back. Unfortunately those changes are also going to hurt his chances at the Fo going forward, if he decides to make them.

Like it or not, Rafa is a clay court specialist who will always be in trouble on a fast court against the top players.

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What's amazing is that some people (like you) are so in denial about the quality of Rafa's game.

Of course his issues with Nocak are in big part mental (and he himself has said this), and as other said, that's clear from his choking in important points in the last few games between them. That's not to say that it's only mental, BTW. But he clearly has the game to beat Djokovic.

Rafa can't reasonably be called a clay court specialist since at the very least 2008. You just don't want to admit it...

2. Do you really have to pollute this thread with your hideous presence and your ugly avatar? It was created by Rafa fans for Rafa fans. You can always open a thread for Rafa haters and enjoy your misshapen life there unless your only delight is spilling dirt.

Well there we are. After tennis we may well see more of Rafa because the guy who won the latest golf tournamant here- Darren Clarke- was 44. Rafa you could take the world on in golf after you have finished with tennis. If he gives the same dedication to professional golf as he has to tennis then wow !!

He's fine. That's just for precaution and he took it down afterwards.
I don't understand why you feel the need to post this here, knowing that he always gets bashed for his injuries.

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I posted them here because I thought they were good pictures. *shrug* So far as the bashing, the trolls are going to find something to bash Rafa about no matter what so best to just ignore them and let the Rafa fans enjoy getting any information they can. And I stand by my comment that seeing his bandaged ankle worries me. Good thing he has as many weeks off as he does.