128 casts total; went a little over just to make sure I didn't count wrong. The boss dummies are apparently hard-coded at 93, so this may not be exactly what you were looking for, but hell, I had 10 minutes to spare.

Right, the tests designed to deal with the dynamic effects are a bit messy right now. We're interested in :A. Physical triggers for Colossus/Dancing Steel/Flowing River. They should all behave the same. Eligible triggers : CS, SotR. Test J/AS too, for oddities.B. Proc chance for C/DS/FR. Each of them must be tested separately. Use only AA as trigger. Stop after at least an hour for each of the three.C. HW as trigger. Locate a group of stacked (i.e. 3+) low-lvl dummies. Use only AA (+SoInsight) and HW as triggers. Use Windsong as dynamic effect. Stop after 100 HW casts.D. Repeat B for Elemental Force and Windsong. Again, only AA.E. Test EForce for buffs/debuffs. Bring a Warrior/Rogue for -armor/ph.vul/sp.vul.

A-E replace/modify the existing tests, marked as #3-6. What is currently marked as #10 still stands, though.

Log : http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/kpbfv54a3lgiguh2/I continued testing for a while because there were very few misses and I was afraid maybe I had actually 2.999% hit chance, or something. I forgot about Consecration for the first 10 minutes. Cons was hitting two lvl85 dummies.

Lemme know if I cocked anything up and I'll repeat them if necessary. As an aside, has anyone actually found a level 88 target dummy anywhere? Orgrimmar is great for groups of 3x 85 dummies (virtually always in use tho), isolated 85 dummies & isolated 60/70/80 dummies, but I haven't found anything between 85 & Boss level.

Last edited by lakhesis on Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Confirms that you can cap spell hat only through expertise - i.e. that expertise above 3% (7.5% for boss) continues to contribute to spell hit. We'll want to retest this on a level+3 mob at some point just to make sure, but we'll wait until we're sure the new hit/exp mechanics are properly implemented first.

1. Sacred Shield as trigger for dynamic effects.The setup is exactly the same as here (HS; low-lvl dummy; use AAs and SoI freely), but with a few key differences :a. use only CS as HPG (sorry, no J or GrCr/AS as we want to avoid parasites).b. use SS as finisher.Stop after 20 SS casts (~5 mins) or after the first HS proc.

2. Holy Prism as trigger for dynamic effects.Use a low-lvl dummy (the debuffs are irrelevant). Use only AA (+SoInsight) and HPrism. Use Heartsong as dynamic effect. Stop after 20 HPrism casts (~7 mins) or the first HS proc.

3. Scaling with haste/crit for EF's over-time effect.a. use a crit/haste/Int-heavy gear (basically Holy-oriented).b. use a low-lvl dummy (the debuffs are irrelevant).c. use only AA (+SoInsight), CS as HPG, 1-HoPow EF (important : do not refresh EF, cast it at every 30 secs).d. ask a Mage/Shaman friend to provide Bloodlust-type effects (one time only). This step is optional, but highly encouraged.e. stop after 5 EF casts (~3 mins) or after the first critical tick.f. report total spell haste/crit (from character panel) and upload the log.

4. Divine Purpose.Use a boss-level dummy and attack it from the front. Be naked (0 hit/exp). Use AA (+SoInsight), CS+J+GrCr/AS as HPGs, SotR as finisher. Stop after 100 SotR casts (in total, connected or not) and upload the log.

5. Censure as trigger for dynamic effects.Use a weapon enchanted with Heartsong. Use a low-lvl dummy (the debuffs are irrelevant). Use only AA + SoTruth. Stop after 2 mins or the first HS proc.

@ Theck : Add some clarifications to the leading posts, please.a. any of the listed enchantments works for test #3.b. neither component of Cons (i.e. casts/ticks) is a trigger for dynamic effects.c. both components of EF (cast/ticks) are triggers for dynamic effects.

Actor: LakhesisBuild: Build: 5.0.1 (15544)Gear: 378 Mandible of Beth'tilac enchanted with Heartsong. No proc trinkets or other effects.Seal: InsightTarget: isolated level 60 dummy (the ones on the roof of the Warrior trainer in the Valley of Honor, Orgrimmar)Report: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/cqbv ... akhesis%22Cast sequence:- Start Auto attack -> Sacred Shield. Refreshed on expiry for about 5 minutes. Then spammed SS nonstop for about another minute after that while still auto-attacking. No procs.

The general theory is that it's operating at 15% per charge of Holy Power consumed. Even in the current build it's still acting that way. Doubtful if it's worth testing until we know for certain it's a bug or intended.

I know from my own experience (can't provide any logs as evidence, sadly) that I've seen 5+ Divine Purpose procs in a row, on multiple occasions. The probability of that happening once off a flat 15% chance is pretty absurd, let alone multiple times, within ~60 minutes of beating on a dummy.

lakhesis wrote:It seemed like there was a disproportionately high number of double/triple DivPurpose procs.

The general theory is that it's operating at 15% per charge of Holy Power consumed.

Hmm, that's what you mean by "too many procs" ? Entirely possible at this point, but we'll need way more relevant numbers of casts before reaching any conclusion. We're not going anywhere with only 100.

theckhd wrote:Weapon Normalization

The physical component of HotR is (still) not normalized. The other stuff (CS/SoR normalized, unlike SoT) is exactly as expected from previous tests.

Notes:- I wasn't sure whether the preference was the 10% or the ideal weapon, so I did both. Had to use my premade pally, my main is prot/prot, so I had difficulty making the 10% crit difference (ended up fully gemmed, every int enchant possible even inc. bc weapon, the only relevant epic gem I had, VP boe gear, reforged out of crit, full +int raid buffs lol)

Nice to be able to put something back into the community knowledge base after a lot of years lurking & soaking up info.

Oh, and I'll be able to do tests 3-6 once Bliz actually enables MoP level enchanting. My main is a chanter & at 550 on beta atm (max'd with cata mats), but disenchanting does not currently work (presumably intentionally) so I have no mats with which to do the new enchants or level further.

Also, would you like a thousand casts of so of SotR, or shall I leave that be for now?