They don't... they sit around all day on this forum... When they hope on their bikes, they diesel along at a Z1 pace. Watch out for the BS anecdotes! <-note!

The reality for Keto/<100CHO is that your 70% effort will become your new 100%. Do a couple of quick sprints and your done for the day. If you are serious about performance, don't even think about these fad diets. Just eat a proper well balanced diet to fuel you on and off the bike.

The diet people eat when they are on the bike and doing sprints isn't the same diet you need to sustain your activities off the bike.

How do you sustain energy levels on low carbs. I was low carb years ago, and had no fuel for endurance type or HIIT workouts. Carbs are the main source of fuel, so I am wondering how you all do it.

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They don't... they sit around all day on this forum... When they hope on their bikes, they diesel along at a Z1 pace. Watch out for the BS anecdotes! <-note!

The reality for Keto/<100CHO is that your 70% effort will become your new 100%. Do a couple of quick sprints and your done for the day. If you are serious about performance, don't even think about these fad diets. Just eat a proper well balanced diet to fuel you on and off the bike.

If you're on a ketogenic diet, then you're probably <50g carbs/day and you're right, you run low on glycogen and if you're doing workouts that hit muscle glycogen, then you're not going to have an optimum performance. You can do things like weight lifting or endurance bike riding no problem. You can't ride threshold intervals or do a Crossfit workout well.

I know it's tough from some to accept this, but all people do not base their existence on how they performed on this morning's group ride.

I don't really like staying ketogenic for long periods of time. I work better with about 150g or so of carbs/day. I like to ride pretty hard and do some hard workouts. For that, having some carbs is necessary.

I've said before that I don't follow a Paleo diet. My diet is basically trying to eat things that have minimal processing. My additions to a Paleo diet primarily include some dairy and buckwheat flour. The Paleo diet is not just a ketogenic thing. It's macro agnostic.

"The interesting thing about coconut oil is that it is a MCT (medium chain triglyceride) that is well metabolized when one is in a state of ketogenisis to provide energy for all the human body's systems".

Coconut oil is good stuff. I use it often in my morning coffee and it does provide some extra energy. I'll drink my coconut coffee at about 5:30 in the morning then hop on my bike and ride to work, no need for solid food until noon hour.

I don't follow a diet. I eat to perform. I am consuming 250-300g of carbs a day. This has been solid for me and I perform well on this amount.

Have you played around with that number? Even doing a pretty severe workout, you're not likely to need >1000 calories of carbs. If you're doing Crossfit or bike intervals, you might burn 500 calories of carbs, but even then, that's not going to be every day.

Training your body to efficiently process fats can be a real advantage. Let's say you're riding intervals and burn 1000 calories. If you can make 65 percent of those fat calories, you're in a much better place than if only 50 percent were from fat stores. In short, it means you have a better aerobic system and a more efficient engine overall.

I don't particularly limit carbs, but I do try and eat them appropriately to fuel the day's glycogen taxing activities.

Regardless of how you eat, it's an easy enough thing to tinker with and you might just find out some interesting things about how your body works.

Have you played around with that number? Even doing a pretty severe workout, you're not likely to need >1000 calories of carbs. If you're doing Crossfit or bike intervals, you might burn 500 calories of carbs, but even then, that's not going to be every day.

Training your body to efficiently process fats can be a real advantage. Let's say you're riding intervals and burn 1000 calories. If you can make 65 percent of those fat calories, you're in a much better place than if only 50 percent were from fat stores. In short, it means you have a better aerobic system and a more efficient engine overall.

I don't particularly limit carbs, but I do try and eat them appropriately to fuel the day's glycogen taxing activities.

Regardless of how you eat, it's an easy enough thing to tinker with and you might just find out some interesting things about how your body works.

Yes, I have played around with that number. I should have been more accurate in my statement. I do have control days. When I know I am not going to workout too hard, I do control my carb intake, and up my protein. I am also in the Marine Corps (infantry), and I need fuel pretty much daily to keep up with these young ones.

Yes, I have played around with that number. I should have been more accurate in my statement. I do have control days. When I know I am not going to workout too hard, I do control my carb intake, and up my protein. I am also in the Marine Corps (infantry), and I need fuel pretty much daily to keep up with these young ones.

Thanks,
Ty

Marine Corps. infantry...that makes a _massive_ difference. You're essentially a professional athlete. Like any other hard-charging athlete, you're definitely going to need a good whack of carbs to fuel it. I guess the only thing I'd add to this part of the conversation is to be careful where you get those carbs. I think you're much better off with starchy tubers and things of that nature than you are with sugar. This way, you can get the muscle glycogen up, but you're still giving a nod to the insulin control side of things.

Hbut if I say she's looking curvy as hell folks perk up and want to see pictures.

Sorry but, I have to comment in your wife's defense. In the ladies clothing world, the term "curvy" is a polite way of saying "overweight" ... "plus size". Some dress manufacturers even have the sizes small, medium, large, and curvy. Type 'ladies dress sizing curvy' into Google and you'll see what I mean.

Every time you say she is getting curvier or looking curvy, you're saying she is gaining weight, becoming larger.

Sorry but, I have to comment in your wife's defense. In the ladies clothing world, the term "curvy" is a polite way of saying "overweight" ... "plus size". Some dress manufacturers even have the sizes small, medium, large, and curvy. Type 'ladies dress sizing curvy' into Google and you'll see what I mean.

Every time you say she is getting curvier or looking curvy, you're saying she is gaining weight, becoming larger.