Elena Kagan and the Decline of WASP America

Elena Kagan’s impending confirmation on the Supreme Court has produced several comments on the decline of WASP America. Writing in the Wall Street Journal (“That Bright, Dying Star, the American WASP”),Robert Frank’s article is an expression of Jewish triumphalism and contempt for WASPs. Discussing the New York banking elite, he points to the bad old days when “the strictly homogenous crowd of Protestant blue-bloods spent their mornings comparing golf scores and vacation homes.” Among several causes for the decline of the WASPs, Frank mentions the decline of family connections and the rise of a meritocracy.

This is a favorite aspect of contemporary Jewish self-conception — the idea that Jews replaced WASPs because they are smarter and work harder. But this leads to the ultimate irony: Kagan is remarkably unqualifiedto be a Supreme Court Justice in terms of the usual standards: judicial experience, academic publications, or even courtroom experience. Rather, all the evidence is that Kagan owes her impending confirmation to her Jewish ethnic connections(see alsohere).

So we are replacing one type of ethnic networking with another. At least the WASPs’ ethnic networking had a certain legitimacy given their percentage of the population and their role in founding the country and defining its culture for much of US history.

Frank also quotes a passage from E. Digby Baltzell’s The Protestant Establishment:

A crisis has developed in modern America largely because of the White-Anglo-Saxon Protestant establishment’s unwillingness, or inability, to share and improve its upper-class traditions by continuously absorbing talented and distinguished members of minority groups into its privileged ranks.

Perhaps. But that wouldn’t explain the eclipse of the WASPs, only that they resisted the inroads of others — futilely, as it turns out. Mr. Frank, of course, finds the passage useful because he sees himself as a member of a certain upwardly mobile minority group that he feels was not greeted warmly enough by the WASPs.

Baltzell’s comment is quite consistent with my view that that the WASPs did not voluntarily cede control but were pushed out by a rising Jewish group whose base of influence was the academic world, finance, the legal profession, personal wealth, and the media (where anti-WASP movies became a staple at least by the 1960s; see also here).

Frank says that as a result of its downfall, “WASP culture has been left to live out its days as a fashion statement, on the shelves of Ralph Lauren stores, or as a social badge at defiantly old-world clubs like the Knickerbocker Club in New York or the Bath and Tennis Club in Palm Beach.” A triumphalist statement if ever there was one. The battle is over and we won.

Frank quotes an Episcopalian bishop who acknowledges defeat, but isn’t much concerned: “tracking the ups and downs of socioreligious groups like WASPs [is] no longer relevant: ‘That kind of calibration of ‘what members of my team are on the front lines’ seems to me to be an antique kind of thing to do.’”

That’s the kind of broad-minded, liberal thinking that got the WASPs into trouble in the first place. There was always a tension between the WASPs as a clubby, snobbish elite cemented by family connections and their very liberal, broad minded world view stemming from their New England base. Writing in the LA Times, Gregory Rodriguez credits Kagan’s nomination to “The triumph of WASP culture.” Whereas Frank is filled with contempt for his vanquished ethnic rivals, Rodriguez seems quite thankful that the liberalism of the WASP elite was triumphant, presumably so that his people can now swarm over the border and aspire to power while WASP principles still count for something. He summarizes Eric Kaufmann’sview of WASP culture:

The Yankee sense of ethnic superiority often competed with their belief in universalist liberal ideology — equality, liberty and human rights. One way that worked itself out is that non-Yankees could aspire and acculturate to the Yankee norm and ideal — by gaining entrance to their schools primarily, but also by joining their churches, appreciating their art forms and imbibing their ideas, adopting their aesthetic.

Rodriguez concludes:

Students don’t just strive to attend Harvard and Yale for their educational excellence. There is also the matter of absorbing those universities’ sense of authority, legitimacy and historical legacy that leads back to their Yankee founders.If Kagan is confirmed, as seems likely, don’t cry for the WASPs. The educational pedigree of the Supreme Court will be a powerful example that their culture abides and still anoints power. The only thing that has changed is that today’s “WASP elites” are just as likely to be Jews and Catholics as they are to be Yankees.

I do cry a bit for the WASPs because I think they were more public spirited than our current elite and less likely to welcome a radical change in the ethnic balance of the country that they built. After all, the WASP elite did make common cause with the rest of White America in fashioning the 1924 immigration law (the “period of ethnic defense”). But they ultimately fell to the rise of a new Jewish elite that has shown itself as intent on establishing alliances with non-White ethnic groups and has taken an oppositional stance toward the traditional people and culture of America — including the WASPs. The “Jews as a hostile elite” theme of much of my writing.

And to claim that it really doesn’t matter what people’s ethnic or religious identity are as long as they graduate from an Ivy League university is completely nutty. Ethnicity matters a great deal, no matter what university one graduates from. The fact that Elena Kagan is the product of New York’s Jewish leftist sub-culture makes a huge difference in what we can expect from her — particularly given her views on the First Amendment and executive power that are in line with the mainstream Jewish community.

The Jewish leftist subculture is light years away from traditional WASP culture. Indeed, in her article on Thurgood Marshall, Kagan completely rejects the WASP cultural influence:

The Constitution today … contains a great deal to be proud of. But the credit does not belong to the Framers. It belongs to those who refused to acquiesce in outdated notions of ‘liberty,’ ‘justice,’ and ‘equality.’

The fact that Kagan’s Jewish leftist subculture has become ensconced at Harvard and other elite academic institutions speaks volumes on the massive changes that have taken place in the academy and WASP America generally. Rodriguez is deluded (in a self-interested way) to suppose that changing the ethnicity of Supreme Court justices won’t change anything as long as they graduated from Ivy League colleges.

The WASPs had their faults certainly. But their main one was their failure to block the emergence of a non-WASP elite — to go down with their principles. I rather doubt that this new elite will be as willing to see itself eclipsed as the old one was. It will hang on to power with no regard at all for principles. Indeed, a good example of corruption and lack of principle among the new elite are the many defenses we now see of Kagan emanating from elite opinion makers despite her being the poster girl for ethnic nepotism and lack of real accomplishment.

88 Comments to "Elena Kagan and the Decline of WASP America"

yes the ruler of chancellorsville union pow prison was an imported eatern europe jew who was not able to speak fluent english,he was the right sadist for the job.He was responsible for the conditions there not the southern government,he confiscated operating monies and left the pows in squalor,just like they did in russia and eastern europe after the war,germany gave the jews a utopia and they made it a german peoples hell.which is their utopia soon coming to amelka.

It seems to me that the main problem is authoritarian leftism, much more than it is the fact that so many Jews are leftists. If the left wing in America was composed mainly of Jews, we could ignore them, because they are few, outside of New York and Los Angeles.

Another thing to consider is the question of why so many Jews are on the left. I have made the observation that the two most heavily left-Democrat constituencies are blacks and Jews. Those two groups have almost nothing in common, other than the historical experience of being an oppressed minority.

One thing that is obvious about such minority groups is the degree of groupthink in which they engage. I am certain that there is a huge amount of social pressure on Jews and blacks to be on the left—and if that pressure starts in childhood, there is little chance of any given individual within one of these groups to be anything other than a leftwing Democrat or perhaps an out-and-out socialist.

I remember talking to a Jewish guy one time (a real nice guy, by the way, if you don’t talk politics) who wanted to know who Ayn Rand was. When he found out that her real name was Rosenbaum, you could sense something akin to moral outrage on his part. He seems to think that any Jew who isn’t a leftist is a traitor.

Then, on another occasion, he revealed the abysmal ignorance that is characteristic of the majority of those who support the left; he expressed his displeasure with the policies of Alan Greenspan to the group at a dinner one evening, and revealed that he thought that Greenspan was following Randian policy as head of the Federal Reserve.
I was very tired that evening, so I didn’t have the energy to try and point out the salient fact of that particular case, namely that Ayn Rand would have labelled Greenspan’s Fed policies as “evil.” One might note, as well, that the rest of the group were also people on the left (except for yours truly), and none of them had a clue, either. They weren’t Jews, either.

Finally, I have to point out that anything that looks like a social or political monolith from a distance always resolves into separate elements upon closer examination. One might note, for instance, that greatest theoreticians of the Austrian school of economics were Jewish, or that JPFO is more strongly committed to defense of the Second Amendment than is the NRA. Characterizing the problem as JEWISH leftism, rather than as LEFTISM, helps nothing and gets us nowhere.

We want WHITE people with good values – which is what the Founders wanted. All the other races have their own lands where the continuance of their kind – those with and without good values – is secure. It is Whites only who have no such living space.

Kevin, you miss the point completely. It is true that Kagan is unqualified. She is being appointed because she is a bleeding heart liberal Democrat and we have a collectivist President in Obama.

Perhaps a hundred years from now we will have a real truimph of individualism. Where stupid things like genetic lineage, ethnicity and the obliteration of freedom by society, govt and families will have died.

You need to allow for the fact that intelligent immigrants are more American in their values than many people born in America, including WASP’s. Value choices are all that should matter. Would you rather the WASPs win in a collectivist society or the correct values win regardless of the heterogenity of the group?

“And again, these mestizos are not in any sense being “imported” by Jews, but rather are being drawn by economic activity having nothing to with Jews.”

Before the 1965 law millions of non-white immigrants wanted to enter the US but the gates were shut. The jews opened the gates. The mass murder of white Americans by non-white immigrants that has taken place since 1965 has everything to do with the jews.

Doubly so because if the media honestly reported all the bloodshed caused by the current immigration policy the pressure to halt the invasion would become unstoppable.

Maybe, but only in a lame, half-assed way, stemming more from financial self-interest than any racial awareness. Did you know that the Immigration Act of 1924 placed no quota on immigrants from the Western Hemisphere? Since most of the immigrants we are concerned about today come from Latin America, even if that Act were still in place, virtually all of the current problem would have remained. And again, these mestizos are not in any sense being “imported” by Jews, but rather are being drawn by economic activity having nothing to with Jews. This invasion is primarily aided, abetted, and sustained by Christian churches, both WASP and Catholic.

Also, contra MacDonald, I suspect a deeper historical investigation of the 1924 law would show that it arose in large part from the reaction of the American WASP elites to the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia. Unless you prefer to think that the WASP elites of that day were complete idiots, I think you must agree that they were aware of the Jewish role in that upheaval. It would have been difficult not to notice it. See, for example, the report of the Overman Committee, or read up on the First Red Scare. They crafted the law to exclude Eastern and Southern European communists and anarchists, many of whom were Jews, based more on their politics than their race; and even so, they could not bring themselves to openly do so, hiding behind the euphemism of setting quotas on the basis of “national origins”.

It is easy to make a case that the Immigration Act of 1924 was more a reaction of the moneyed WASP classes in America to the spread of anarchism, socialism, and Bolshevism, than it was an attempt to preserve America as a White country. The labor disturbances of those days justifiably terrified them, as did the success of the Revolution in Russia and the fiery, Jew-led rhetoric.

Elvis
“An examination of American history makes it clear, to me at least, that the WASP elite had no particular concern for the fate of their ethnic base.”

The original constitution was designed to try and protect their posterity from tyrannical government. The 1924 immigration law was an attempt to protect their ethnic base.

By 1965 the jews had become powerful enough to overturn that ethnic protection. They are currently trying to use the millions of non-white immigrants they imported into America through the agency of the 1965 law to legally overturn the protection from tyrannical government given by the constitution.

jews are so successful as a group because they are so hyper-racial. An example of what happens when a hyper-racial minority completely takes over a nation is given by the jewish Bolshevik hijacking of Soviet Russia between 1917 and 1940.

They murdered 40 million white people (and got away with it).

“Many, and likely most, non-Whites come to the US for economic reasons. ”

Obviously.

My point was that through the 1965 law the jews opened the gates to America. Opening the gates effectively imported millions of invaders to undermine the ethnic homogeneity of the host.

If there were no jews an anglo-saxon technocratic elite would have replaced an anglo-saxon aristocratic elite and no doubt that elite would have had it’s own numerous faults the same as all elites throughout history. But in a democratic state would an anglo-saxon technocratic elite be trying to ethnically cleanse its own ethnic base?

An examination of American history makes it clear, to me at least, that the WASP elite had no particular concern for the fate of their ethnic base. In fact, if they had been trying to destroy their own race, they could hardly have gotten off to a better start than to import millions of negroes to these shores. Likewise, the WASP religious fantasy of the equality of the races that showed up with deadly effect in Abolitionism and the Civil War, and the resolute WASP individualism, along with its profound anti-Darwinism, all worked very much against the cause of the preservation of the White race. In short, it wasn’t necessary for them to intentionally try to miscegenate themselves out of existence. It can happen as a side effect from pursuing other goals, or from mere neglect.

An example of this process is jews using their influence to import millions of invaders into white lands to undermine the ethnic homogeneity of the host and then using their media influence to cover up the mass murder that ensues.

Many, and likely most, non-Whites come to the US for economic reasons. The workings of capitalism and the ease of life here at the center of technological civilization draws them like bugs on a hot August night. To the extent they really are being imported, in the sense of being physically picked up, translocated over here, and ensconced in White communities, it is the Christian churches, both WASP and Catholic, that are the ones doing the importing. One could perhaps argue, as MacDonald does, that the stage was set for this by Jewish efforts. But still, it is hard to work up much sympathy for a people that are so complicit in their own destruction.

What is left of the WASP elites could probably still stop this, and preserve the racial integrity of the country if they cared to. They simply don’t care, and never have. If we can draw any lesson from American history at all, it is that where collective White racial interests collide with the financial interests of the WASP elite, racial interests lose.

“This worldwide revolution of which I spoke, in which the true indigenous aristocracy of nations was replaced with a technocratic elite, has nothing necessarily to do with Jewish evolutionary strategizing.”

I never said it did.

If there were no jews an anglo-saxon technocratic elite would have replaced an anglo-saxon aristocratic elite and no doubt that elite would have had it’s own numerous faults the same as all elites throughout history. But in a democratic state would an anglo-saxon technocratic elite be trying to ethnically cleanse its own ethnic base?

jews have a standard strategy they evolved centuries ago. This strategy involves being hyper-racial and therefore always more ethno-centric than the host population. It has two components: promoting jewish cohesion and undermining the host’s cohesion. It is automatic and constant – like plants growing towards the sun or water flowing downhill. They apply it whenever and wherever they are a minority inside a host nation.

Completely independent of this White people created advanced technocratic societies.

jews applied their standard strategy to this new form of society. They laid siege to those institutions like banking and the media where a small minority can have the most influence over the majority and then use their hyper-racial differential nepotism to take over those institutions. Once captured they then use the power of those institutions to undermine the host nation because the more fragmented and divided the host nation is the easier it is for jews operating as a cohesive group to succeed.

Very simple.

An example of this process is jews using their influence to import millions of invaders into white lands to undermine the ethnic homogeneity of the host and then using their media influence to cover up the mass murder that ensues.

The problem with jewish success as a group is not jewish success as a group. It’s that jewish success as a group is based on a hyper-racialism that spells death for the host population.

“but rather the natural outcome of the deployment of Jewish genetic gifts relative to their host people”

One half of the jewish strategy is to promote jewish cohesion and one aspect of that is to think of themselves privately as a master race.

“It’s beginning to look like it’s all too possible that it is the fate of the White race to have invented technological society, but not to be able to persist in it.”

No one will be able to persist in a technological society that has a jewish parasitical caste within it. They’ll undermine the majority population until a partial collapse then start to undermine whoever the next majority population is until there’s further collapse etc. The process of continual collapse can only end when jews leave – either voluntariily because there’s is nothing left worth looting or through expulsion.

The most likely future is the destruction of western civilization and the consequent eventual genocide of white people followed by jews leaving the burning ruins and heading off to repeat the process in India and SE Asia. Hopefully the SE Asians will learn from our mistakes.

This worldwide revolution of which I spoke, in which the true indigenous aristocracy of nations was replaced with a technocratic elite, has nothing necessarily to do with Jewish evolutionary strategizing. It encompassed even societies in which there was a minimal or non-existent Jewish presence. It spread naturally as societies the world over became more technological after the Industrial Revolution. As a consequence, in modern times, the prestige of democracy and egalitarianism has risen such that even the most tyrannical regimes now must claim to be democratic. All these technological societies are now ruled by technocratic elites, not native aristocracies.

As far as undermining the host goes, I think the disproportionate Jewish presence among elites is more than sufficient to account for it. In modern societies, if crucial cybernetic slots in mass media, academia, and government are occupied by Jews, the result is what we see. No further undermining is necessary. I agree with you (and MacDonald) that this is not the result of a grand conspiracy, but rather the natural outcome of the deployment of Jewish genetic gifts relative to their host peoples. But in my view, the fundamental reason for the replacement of native landed aristocracies with a technocratic elite had nothing to do with Jewish strategizing. After all, they were engaging in this strategizing all along since Roman times and even before, but their current level of success had to wait until conditions were right. Technological change itself brought the replacement about, and would have brought it about even if the Jews had never existed. A technological society requires a technocratic elite.

@ Kratos

Yes, you are right, the WASPs in many respects have converted to Judaism. In their hearts, the Zionists and millennial Christians are ardent Jewish supremacists. And again, let’s remember that throughout the period in question, it wasn’t just Boas and his acolytes who were opposed to Darwin, but WASPs as well. In fact, fundamentalist WASPs are the most fanatical anti-evolutionists to this day, still agitating for creationism to be put on equal footing with the teachings of science. I think it probable that a large part of the reason that Boas’ ideas found such great success in America was this pre-existing hostility that WASPs themselves had towards Darwin. By opposing Darwin, they felt that they were standing up for their Protestant God. Opposing Darwin also feeds into the egalitarianism fostered by their religion. Jesus loves all his little chilluns equally, don’t you know — black, red, white, and yellow. Darwin threatens WASP egalitarian religious fantasies.

To our chagrin, I think we must admit that, backing up and beholding the big picture, the story of the West so far is the story of its conquest by Jews. It’s hard to dispute that the last two thousand years have seen an uninterrupted and progressive Judaization of the White race. In old Rome, the Jews were first able to infect Whites with their religious fables. With that memetic attack began the subversion the old order. Later, after the thousand years of darkness imposed by the ensuing collapse of the Western Roman Empire, the combination of the White genetic predisposition to individualism and the culture fostered by the Christian churches gave rise, in roundabout fashion, to science. The spread of science in due course gave rise to technology and the Industrial Revolution, and led ultimately to the managerial state and the replacement of native elites with technocrats. But in the same way that rotten wood invites and nourishes termites, Jews naturally take to and feed on technological societies. They are made for it. In such societies, the relatively high Jewish IQ, greater ethnocentrism, talent for finance, and general psychopathic disregard for their host peoples, lead inevitably to their eventual dominance of hierarchies in government, academia, and mass media. In the modern era, the social machinery of these societies coupled with entirely fortuitous technological advances has allowed them to ascend to a heretofore undreamed of level of control. It’s beginning to look like it’s all too possible that it is the fate of the White race to have invented technological society, but not to be able to persist in it.

“It’s not really possible to seriously maintain that this worldwide revolution came about as a result of Jewish evolutionary strategizing.”

Much simpler than that.

jews existed as a minority group inside host nations and didn’t want to assimilate so they evolved a strategy over time to survive as a minority group.

The strategy is:
1) Always be more ethno-centric than the host nation.
2) Target the institutions where a small minority can have the most influence over the majority (and which are available to jews in that time and place) and over time simple differential nepotism will lead to jewish dominance of those critical institutions.

The same strategy is applied automatically in all circumstances. It’s relative success depends on the specific circumstances in that time and place.

Throughout most of their history the host nations had a hereditary aristocracy that was hard to break into. In those circumstances jews were limited to areas like banking.

In America it was different. Banking, mass media, law, academia then direct political power mainly through proxies.

Very simple. No big master plan. No big conspiracy. Simply following their evolved group strategy as far as it can go under whatever circumstances they find themselves. In the Pale blocked and limited to selling booze to peasants. In America all the way to the top.

The problem with “always be more ethno-centric than the host nation” is that there are two components: maintaining jewish solidarity and undermining the host. It’s the undermining of the host that is the problem.

Judging by the Israel worship of WASP Christians, had it not occurred to you that WASP converted to Judaism as proven by the Israel first policies of Washington. WASP simply abandoned their identity, and they need to be plucked back by the scruff of their neck.

Once again I think your comments are insightful. The long-term historical trend towards democracy and egalitarianism that we find culminating in modern society, which entailed the decline of landed aristocracies (i.e., elites) all over the world, not just in the West, worked to the Jews’ advantage. But the decline of monarchies and landed aristocracies is an example of the sort of impersonal historical force that, aside from reaping its benefits, had nothing to do with Jews. It’s not really possible to seriously maintain that this worldwide revolution came about as a result of Jewish evolutionary strategizing. Since MacDonald wishes to focus on a dyadic struggle between Whites and Jews, calling attention to such a trend doesn’t support his theory, so he ignores it. However, the price of ignoring it is presenting a distorted view of history, masking or misidentifying the true causes of events. Therefore I think you are right in saying that it was neither murder nor suicide. The old elites were simply outmaneuvered, and they were outmaneuvered in large part because these civilizational changes characteristic of modern times supported the Jews’ every effort.

Another thing that stands out for me is not only the decline of native elites such as the American WASPs, but the simultaneous rise of the power of academia, especially since the Industrial Revolution. Further, as we see with the instant case of Elena Kagan, it’s often a revolving door between academia and government. With the rise of the managerial state, a new, technocratic elite has displaced the old elites, which were based on blood and soil, not technical considerations. As has been observed in this thread and other recent ones, Jews are well-adapted to the academic environment. It’s a milieu in which their relatively high IQ, good verbal ability, intense ethnocentrism and skill in ethnic networking aids them greatly. However, although we can rightly blame them for their academic and governmental nepotism, the rise of the power of academia in modern life is not something we can lay at their doorstep. Technical civilization requires academics. This rule by a technocratic elite was a problem that Rome didn’t have, and I’d suggest it’s why the cosmopolite, international Jew has so much more power today than in times past.

When Ted Turner was almost about to purchase CBS in 1988, then eternal enemy aliens of Western man circled their wagons and took the poison pill of losing money to buy the stock at insane prices that would never be paid back just to keep Ted from get his hands on CBS.

I have yet to see anyone discuss Yelena Kaganovich’s roots in the Kaganovich family which dominated the Politburo during the Stalin (Djugashvili, Jewison) years. Lazar Kaganovich, the Wolf of the Kremlin, and his sister Rosa, Stalin’s third wife, oversaw the murder of millions of Russians. Can we expect any less from their descendents in this, the new Russia?

“MacDonald has claimed above that he has been clear that the WASP elite was “murdered”. ”

Personally i don’t think the Anglo elite was murdered and i don’t think they committed suicide either. They were simply outmanouvred. jews targeted those pyramids where a small minority could exert the most influence – banking and the media – and once they had those bases they used them to manipulate the existing elite to do what jews wanted.

The (mass) murder has come since 1965 at the hands of the people who were brought into our lands as our executioners.

Interesting analysis, Wandrin, and very much in accord with the gospel according to MacDonald. But both you and MacDonald can’t explain why, if this pyramidal structure characterizes “most” societies, the Jews weren’t able to replace the elites everywhere in the Western world. If that’s the whole story, then with their intense ethnocentrism, they should surely have conquered every society they encountered. Consider ancient Roman societies, for example. It’s interesting that despite the large number of Jews in the Empire, comprising a far higher percentage of the overall population than today, there was never a Jewish Roman Emperor, nor any Jewish Senators. The Jews had power then, but it wasn’t manifested by holding political office. Or, why didn’t they replace the White elites in Europe during the Middle Ages? If the pyramidal structure of a society and relative degrees of ethnocentrism are the only things that are important, they should have been able to do so, if your model is correct. The fact that they didn’t is a sign that your analysis is incomplete. What’s different about modern societies that makes them so liable to Jewish takeover? And in particular, what’s different about modern American society that it could have been taken over so bloodlessly? What changed? That is the million-dollar question that neither you nor MacDonald seems interested in answering.

Re: MacDonald’s review of Kaufmann

MacDonald has claimed above that he has been clear that the WASP elite was “murdered”. Yet in the article he links to, the claim of murder is at best an insinuation. He expresses many points of agreement with Kaufmann, who characterizes the fading of the WASP elite as “suicide by idea”. Twice in the article MacDonald seems to forget his murder claim and even calls it a suicide himself:

But only a decade later, in the 1960s, White America began the process of ethnic and cultural suicide:

By the 1960s, as if by magic, the centuries-old machinery of WASP America began to stall like the spacecraft of Martian invaders in the contemporary hit film, War of the Worlds. In 1960, the first non-Protestant president was elected. In 1965, the national origins quota regime for immigration was replaced by a “color-blind” system. Meanwhile, Anglo-Protestants faded from the class photos of the economic, political, and cultural elite — their numbers declining rapidly, year upon year, in the universities, boardrooms, cabinets, courts, and legislatures. At the mass level, the cords holding Anglo-Protestant Americans together began to unwind as secular associations and mainline churches lost millions of members while the first truly national, non-WASP cultural icons appeared. (pp. 2–3)

While it is certainly true that other ethnic groups have gone into historical decline or have been replaced by force, the decline of Anglo-America seems mysterious. There are no conquering armies that would easily explain their impending exit from the stage of history.

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America remains somewhat of an exception to these trends throughout the West because of the First Amendment. But other Western societies, lacking such formal declarations of rights, have succumbed to a stifling political correctness that essentially legislates the triumph of cosmopolitanism and the suicide of the West.

The only example of force MacDonald adduces — as would be required in order to justify the characterization of events as a murder — is here:

Another critical lapse in Kaufmann’s argument is that he never mentions coercion and the penalties that are imposed on people who dissent from the elite consensus. However, Whites who violate these strictures are severely censured — a phenomenon with which I have considerable personal experience. Kaufmann presents the views of elite Whites who are cooperating in the demise of their own people as nothing more than the enlightened opinions of an intellectual and moral elite. But it is far more than that. At least since the 1960s, Whites who depart from the cosmopolitan consensus have been penalized in a wide variety of ways — from lack of access to the mainstream media, to firing from their jobs, to social opprobrium.

But the 1960s are well past the period we are discussing; well past the decline of Darwinism in the social sciences and the triumph of Boasian anthropology that MacDonald sees as key. What force did the Jews use back then? The early part of the 20th century was not an age of political correctness. The enforcers at the EEOC didn’t exist; there were no laws against anti-Semitism. At that time, it was still possible for the WASP elites to defend their ideas. If they had the slightest amount of racial cohesion they would have done so. They simply did not do so effectively; and that more resembles a suicide than a murder. White defectors voluntarily adopted the ideologies pushed by the Jews because they saw some advantage in it for themselves.

I also reject MacDonald’s premise that the preservation of Darwinism in the social sciences was some kind of sine qua non for the preservation of the WASP elite. First of all, let us recall that Jews were not the only ones arguing against Darwin. Vigorous opposition to Darwin came from a variety of quarters, but, as was shown in the Scopes trial, especially from Protestant Christians. William Jennings Bryan, the spokesman for the anti-evolutionist position at the trial, was himself a member of the WASP elite. Secondly, since when is the particular intellectual justification of Darwinism a requirement for elites to preserve themselves? Don’t elites always attempt to preserve themselves? Except in this one case, which everyone agrees is remarkable and difficult to explain, I think they do. The Roman elites preserved themselves and their society from the Jews for centuries, and they did it without any help from Darwin, obviously. Elites that want to preserve their power will find a justification, and if Darwin isn’t available then it will be the divine right of kings or some other nonsense. The fact that this didn’t happen again inclines one to a verdict of suicide; perhaps an assisted suicide, but a suicide nonetheless.

“Members of Americas Jewish communities had no liking for any kind of radicalism or anti-establishment views. They tended to be staunch patriots and supporters of the Republic, with absolutely not the slightest objection to a single historically documented Social ills.”

Obviously when jews exist as a very tiny minority their safest bet where possible is to tuck themselves under the protective wing of the elite and support them and their culture. The change comes with a tipping point in numbers.

“Clearly, both of these statements can’t be true. Was the American WASP elite “willing” to see itself eclipsed, or were they pushed out? Since the change occurred without bloodshed, it’s reasonable to conclude they didn’t need to be pushed very hard, if they were pushed at all.”

It’s very simple. Most societies include pyramid-shaped heirarchical structures with nodes and control points. All an incoming minority group needs to eventually take over those pyramidal structures from the original group is to be more ethno-centric than the original group and enough time.

If 40% of the people from the original group disregard a jew for promotion into and up the pyramid on ethnic grounds while the other 60% decide on merit whereas jews always promote other jews then it simply is a matter of time. If the original group was only 40% ethno-centric and the jews 100% then it might only take 3-4 generations. If the original group was 95% ethno-centric and the jews 100% then it might take ten generations.

This simple strategy explains the two prongs of jewish kulturkampf – fighting hard to maintain their own group cohesion while doing everything they can think of to undermine the cohesion of the host.

It also explains why things tend to go bad for them in the end as the only way to compete with jews is to be as ethno-centric as jews.

Very good article Dr. MacDonald. One observation that I have is the increase of homo-centric culture replacing what should normally be a majority hetero-centric culture. I thought it was “majority rule” not “minority tyranny”.

No, there were no bans on Jews during the Civil War. That’s pure crock. There was a ban effected in one area having to do with profiteers
jews were banned from military zones because of profiteering. They were pronounced enough presence among the profiteers that they were specifically named and banned. That didn’t happen to other minorities like say prespyterians or germans. Just jews and gypsies.

Dodd’s father remarked the same thing during WWII – odd behavior for people so fearing a holocaust – but jews went ahead of the US army quickly buying up jewlery, art and other valuables from paniced germans. Pretty shameful behavior.. and there’s a consistent pattern of it.

yes, many fought for the Confederacy and the first Treasurer of the Conf. was jewish, i believe. Yes many have been brave and served in wars.

But the pattern has been pushing gentiles into wars and both profiteering from them (see david brooks and his 13 million bah mitzah for his daughter) and not serving.

You’re the only ones that doubt our loyalty.
Most jews first loyatly, particularly among the elite and those let in their circile are to the ‘jewish nation’ not us. I don’t expect anything else, but i would prefer not to be called antisemitic every time i point out what is not only obvious, but admitted by jews in private.

So much for Kevin McD’s slur that all Jews play a double game of advocating White destruction while promoting Jewish exclusivity.

Jewish gratitude?!

What an inane concept.

Where is your gratitude towards us?

You’re the only ones that doubt our loyalty. Based on a few exceptions, you forget the millions of Jews who fought for this country, made it what it is.

It’s inane. I wouldn’t’ go there.

No, there were no bans on Jews during the Civil War. That’s pure crock. There was a ban effected in one area having to do with profiteers. Jews served in both the Union and Confederate armies, and truth be told, much more in the former than the latter.

@ AngryJew: “Ahistorical accounts, propounded by the likes of Kevin McD, ignore the nature and details of this historic Jewish community. It was heavily Southern, perhaps 60/40 Southern, and very conservative. It existed in an atmosphere of profound Protestant Philosemitism, so much so that many Founding Fathers had more than a passing familiarity with Hebrew.”

Yes, it’s possible and even likely that some of the Founders and early Americans had a romantic view of Jewry based on the Old Testament. (Similar to the Dispensationalist useful idiots of today). Or, more likely, they invoked Old Testament Jewry to rationalize their slave-holding, just as Dispensationalists psychologically rationalize opening the borders for cheap Mexican labor the same way.

But the Constitution is in no way an Old Testament document, nor the concept of America, which in breaking with the corrupted Old World, is far more akin to Jesus’ breaking with the corrupt Pharisees and their calculated, narrow minded, communal control-freak, tribal ways.

Some naive Americans still have a flowery view of organized Jewry to this day, but despite Jewry’s best efforts at spin and self-promoting P.R. and to cover their tracks, that’s changing thanks to its TRUE nature being revealed via Jewish Hollywood sleazoids, corrupt and greedy Jewish Wall Street swindlers, and Judeofascist Israel. But the internet, which has shattered the soft-tyranny of political correctness that they helped construct, is the main engine of unmasking Jewry.

On the internet, people are simply re-learning basic truths — truths that had been buried for decades and even centuries.

Angry Jew, the gig is up. Organized Jewry has been unmasked as a “nation within the nation,” and a hostile one, at that. Instruct your fellow “American” Jewish nationalist to book their one way trips to Israel, because the writing is on the wall. I don’t mean that in any kind of threatening or mean-spirited way. It’s just a simple observation of trend lines, coupled with the fact that Jewry, over the course of its long history, has always been thrown out of the countries in which it dwelled in the end. That’s partially why it constructed Israel, and American Jewry has been so loyal to Israel, because it knew the day would come.

First, we spit out our coffee over President Obama’s appointments of former Monsanto goon Michael Taylor as Food Safety [sic] Czar and ‘biotech governor of the year’ Tom Vilsack as Secretary of Agriculture. Then we choked on our grits when he made Monsanto lobbyist, Islam Siddiqui, the US Ag Trade Representative. Now, the real food movement has completely lost its appetite with Obama’s nomination of Monsanto defender, Elena Kagan, to the US Supreme Court.

In December 2009, in her capacity as Solicitor General, Kagan intervened in the first case on which SCOTUS will rule involving genetically modified crops, Monsanto v Geertson Seed. She defended Monsanto’s fight to contaminate the environment with its GM alfalfa, not the American people’s right to safe feed and a protected environment.

With her appointment the city of New York will be represented by 4 justices, (Ginsberg, Sotomayor, Scalia, Kagan).

Forget the bull about antisemitism and questioning judicial experience will the Supreme court represent US jurisprudence or be biased with a 45% New York sensitivies and sensibilities. Obama and his advisors are suckering 300 million Americans with his choice.

An organized citizens group representing the 49 states needs to be formed and request a citizens hearing before the Senate committee reviewing Ms. Elena;s nomination.

profound Protestant Philosemitism,
wonder why that’s fast changing? in any event I am sure you’re famliar with the fact that peter stuyvasent did not want them in NY and both grant and sherman banned them from military zones during the civil war –

but i will say this there was far more anti- catholic ‘bigotry’ and violence than anti jewish – in fact there has never been anti jewish violence in this country to my knowledge (The leo frank case is not a case of anti jewish but anti frank/child molestor) yet the average catholic conservative is quite a different animal than the neoconservative jew.

I will grant you this – pre east european jews were much more conservative and more willing to assimulate than EE jews – perhaps it was sheer number, perhaps it was their ibackwards hostility to gentiles they brought from the shetel. in many ways the modern jew in America is only a few generations from the 13th century while the average prod or catholic (west european immigrant ) is far removed. I have heard german american jews make a similar observation

Yes, there was apparently no doctrine of diversity at the dawn of this Greatest Republic, and the numerous Hebrews who contributed to its foundation did so without making the kind of demands minorities make today. At least on the face of it. No hyphens were proposed.

Ahistorical accounts, propounded by the likes of Kevin McD, ignore the nature and details of this historic Jewish community. It was heavily Southern, perhaps 60/40 Southern, and very conservative. It existed in an atmosphere of profound Protestant Philosemitism, so much so that many Founding Fathers had more than a passing familiarity with Hebrew.

Jews did insist on liberty of religious practice and customs. This was welcomed by a Gentile society founded on far greater reverence for the Old Testament than any Old World Christian sect could boast since the 3d century AD. A Gentile society who often saw its future as inseparably bound up with the historic role of the Jewish people.

Members of Americas Jewish communities had no liking for any kind of radicalism or anti-establishment views. They tended to be staunch patriots and supporters of the Republic, with absolutely not the slightest objection to a single historically documented Social ills.

Does this historically accurate description sound like WASP hegemony to you?

Doubt it. Rather, there was a strong sense of common values, and common vision. One could be a Jew, just as one could be a Catholic (and contrary to legend, there were many, considering how few the country had in total), Anabaptist, Quaker, or Shakker. These were viewed as a continum.

I dare say, it is the idea of WASP hegemony which is some kind of idea invented during the Nativist period, which has little to stand on. From times immemorial Americas Jews and America’s Presbyterian/Episcopalian establishment were on the same page. Till this day, there is very little difference between these two groups. Even, contrary to appearances on the thorny issue of Israel.

And if you say “now there you are going too far Jew! Now here you are caught lying with your devils tongue” sure – I know you explain every expression of Senatorial support to Israel as the dirty work of the Jewish lobby. But that’s why you know so little. According to you, Kerry and Biden are just stooges. According to anyone familiar with New England, its the good old “WASPY” progressive…to which coincidentally so many Jews belong.

Those few who, lamenting the lack of Jewish gratitude, have claimed as a virtuous deed the saving of Jews from Hitler betray their ignorance, even now, when Jews have inflicted on America the same cultural and economic destruction that they inflicted on Germany between the two White-decimating wars. Communist Mao said America would fall like an overripe fruit from internal rot without a shot fired; Communist/Marxist Jews have brought it to fruition. Intentionally. Willfully. For Jewish benefit.

clyde it was an anglo saxon – filmmaker whit stillman’s great uncle or something… that coined the term WASP i don’t care for it and its a bit repetitive but it was not meant to be derogatory.
Ironically enough, back then we were know as native americans :)

Elvis H said: Was the American WASP elite “willing” to see itself eclipsed, or were they pushed out? Since the change occurred without bloodshed, it’s reasonable to conclude they didn’t need to be pushed very hard, if they were pushed at all. It would be interesting to see how MacDonald can resolve the contradiction between this apparently voluntary cession of power and evolutionary theory, which would not seem to anticipate such an action.

You are playing a game of sophistry or you clearly have not read Dr. MacDonald’s essay “Suicide — Or Murder? Kaufmann’s Rise and Fall of Anglo-America.”

Concise summary:

“Suicide” theory of decline in WASP elite: “They were motivated to give up ethnic hegemony by their attachment to Enlightenment ideals of individualism and liberty.” (Dr. MacDonald) In other words, no external pressure.

“Murder” theory: Jews took advantage of the WASP elite’s attachment to Enlightenment ideals of individualism and liberty to encourage/pressure WASPs to share power. In other words, external pressure.

Hypocritically, Jews who managed to achieve positions of power and influence would ethnocentrically work to protect and advance the interests of other Jews. All the while preaching to WASPs that individualism demands they not be ethnocentric! A classic case of “do as I say but not as I do.”

I think Dr. MacDonald was merely emphasizing in saying “I rather doublt that this new elite will be as willing to see itself eclipsed as the old one was” that the WASP elite let down its guard in allowing itself to be pressured by Jews to follow Enlightenment principles to their logical conclusion in sharing power with Jews and other minorities.

In other words, the Jews worked to deprive the WASP elite of the will to defend itself, making it easy prey for those (Jews and other minorities) hungry for power. This is murder.

It’s hard to believe but true. The WASPs traded tangible real power for the useless narcissistic joy of feeling ‘liberal’ and ‘openminded.’

And why? The jews played them like a fiddle. As G.C. Williams said, “As a general rule, a modern biologist seeing an animal doing something to benefit another assumes either that it is being manipulated by the other individual or that it is being subtly selfish.”

And the ratio is even more out of balance in the Senate, where there are a total of 57 Democrats, plus two “Independents” that caucus with the Democrats. Of that total of 59 Senators, 13 are Jewish — an astounding 22%

Not true, it’s 16 and about to be 17. On top of that, we have Reid and presumably others married to Jews.

It saddens me that Kevin MacDonald refers to people of Anglo-Saxon descent as “WASPs.” This phrase is an obvious racial slur that forms part of the arsenal that racist groups have used to push Anglo-Saxons to the fringes of American society. Who has met an “Anglo-Saxon” who is not “White”? We are not insects.

As a student of human psychology generally and of Zionism in particular, one would think that Kevin MacDonald would better appreciate the power of labels and would not so easily acquiesce to (or fall for?) enemy propaganda. He seems like a good man but, alas, this language raises a question in my mind about the depth of his fellow-feeling toward certain other whites, namely, people of Anglo-Saxon descent.

The hypocrisy is amazing. Jews displace white Christians by tugging at their heartstrings but generations later, creating an even more insidious “good old boy” network, all the while acting as though they are shining examples of fair play.

Jews, we went out of our way to save you from Hitler and give you a safe haven out of all the nations, why have you turned on us and demonized our skin and our religion in our own land? May God repay you according to your works.
great post! they never see their own hypocrisy and they will never accept criticism of their practices the way the wasp elite did..they simply do not know ‘guilt’ – essentially they would no longer feel…or possibly be ….. jewish if they did not believe that all gentiles are evil and they have been innocents persecuted throughout history.

Hell they even see the arenda revolt in poland as anti semitic! not to mention the palestinians…

with such a mentality how can we ever hope they will display the good conscious to share the power they now have… ?

The thing is that admission is not solely based on grades and test scores:

The Ivy League schools justified their emphasis on character and personality, however, by arguing that they were searching for the students who would have the greatest success after college. They were looking for leaders, and leadership, the officials of the Ivy League believed, was not a simple matter of academic brilliance. “Should our goal be to select a student body with the highest possible proportions of high-ranking students, or should it be to select, within a reasonably high range of academic ability, a student body with a certain variety of talents, qualities, attitudes, and backgrounds?” Wilbur Bender asked. To him, the answer was obvious. If you let in only the brilliant, then you produced bookworms and bench scientists: you ended up as socially irrelevant as the University of Chicago (an institution Harvard officials looked upon and shuddered). “Above a reasonably good level of mental ability, above that indicated by a 550-600 level of S.A.T. score,” Bender went on, “the only thing that matters in terms of future impact on, or contribution to, society is the degree of personal inner force an individual has.”

It’s easy to find fault with the best-graduates approach. We tend to think that intellectual

achievement is the fairest and highest standard of merit. The Ivy League process, quite

apart from its dubious origins, seems subjective and opaque. Why should personality and

athletic ability matter so much? The notion that “the ability to throw, kick, or hit a ball

is a legitimate criterion in determining who should be admitted to our greatest research

universities,” Karabel writes, is “a proposition that would be considered laughable in most

of the world’s countries.” At the same time that Harvard was constructing its byzantine

admissions system, Hunter College Elementary School, in New York, required simply that

applicants take an exam, and if they scored in the top fifty they got in. It’s hard to

imagine a more objective and transparent procedure.

But what did Hunter achieve with that best-students model? In the nineteen-eighties, a

handful of educational researchers surveyed the students who attended the elementary school

between 1948 and 1960. [The results were published in 1993 as “Genius Revisited: High IQ

Children Grown Up,” by Rena Subotnik, Lee Kassan, Ellen Summers, and Alan Wasser.] This was

a group with an average I.Q. of 157—three and a half standard deviations above the mean—who

had been given what, by any measure, was one of the finest classroom experiences in the

world. As graduates, though, they weren’t nearly as distinguished as they were expected to

be. “Although most of our study participants are successful and fairly content with their

lives and accomplishments,” the authors conclude, “there are no superstars . . . and only

one or two familiar names.” The researchers spend a great deal of time trying to figure out

why Hunter graduates are so disappointing, and end up sounding very much like Wilbur Bender.

Being a smart child isn’t a terribly good predictor of success in later life, they conclude.

Perhaps, general intelligence has decreasing marginal utility, like almost all economic goods, and possess high general intelligence is not valuable itself (beyond a certain “threshold”), but high general intelligence, in this case, only increases the utility of conscientiousness. In contrast, conscientiousness itself is not that valued and the contemporary labor market is a testament: while many people can be deemed conscientious who are law abiding citizens, there are indubitably many who work multiple low prestige jobs or are unemployed.

The hypocrisy is amazing. Jews displace white Christians by tugging at their heartstrings but generations later, creating an even more insidious “good old boy” network, all the while acting as though they are shining examples of fair play.

Jews, we went out of our way to save you from Hitler and give you a safe haven out of all the nations, why have you turned on us and demonized our skin and our religion in our own land? May God repay you according to your works.

Of course it was murder. If it had been “suicide”, there would have to have been no active agency, but there happened to be a replacement right there waiting. ..

As a thought experiment, imagine that a Chinese minority of 5% or so somehow got a foothold in Israel, where the average Jewish IQ is in the 80s. Now do you think for a microsecond that the Israelis would allow the Chinese to occupy 50% plus of the elite university and professional school positions?

Keep in mind the “Ivy League” is now a joke, with jews admitted at well over triple what they would be allowed if admissions were based on grades and test scores.
not to mention, academically they are fast becoming a joke particularly toutside -hard sciences..
jews had no problem sullying harvard’s reputation to rape russia… same way they had no proble destroying the capital and trust Walt Disney had built among american families.

When it comes to jews and power sharing in all institutions that the public trusted – jews abused and used that trust for their own ends. The same story is played over and over, in museums, universities, anywhere people made the mistake of trusting the jewish elite.

Keep in mind the “Ivy League” is now a joke, with jews admitted at well over triple what they would be allowed if admissions were based on grades and test scores. Same goes for E. Asians who are known for their diligence when it comes to academics. In terms of raw numbers of qualified students, whites should dominate the student bodies of these institutions. But anti-white policies and propaganda make sure this doesn’t happen. Whites are aware in many ways, as only a small percentage of qualified whites even bother to apply to these once great institutions. Worse is better for whites in the long run. The tribe is ramping it up in hopes of finishing the game quickly. It isn’t going to work.

Jews succeed, its the non-Jewish Whites who scramble for government quotas and hand-outs (speaking of those nice anti-Jewish quotas at the beginning of the 20th century).”
low ethical standards (cheating) played a large part in jewish ‘success’ jews were not kept out of government jobs because they were good but because they were and are ethical risks – for example jews were (Rightly) kept out of the state department because of the likelihood of them taking an israel first attitude – which is exactly what they did.

concerning the ivy leagues- these were nearly all christian based schools – harvard began life as a seminiary – chapel was required in many – the fear – again correct- was that jews would mold these instutions in their image which is exactly what happened – today, there is kosher food in the dorms, jewish centers on campus but christmas trees are banned.

it made no more sense to admit jews into the ivy leagues than it did to let them in to the vatican.

I take it you aren’t familiar with KMac’s writings about individualism in Western cultures and varying degrees of ethnocentrism among different peoples?

All too familiar with it. The fact remains that MacDonald can’t have it both ways. Either the WASP elite was pushed out, or it abdicated willingly. It makes no sense to claim both are true.

To wit, western peoples come from more ethnically homogenous societies that have historically favored individualism. Jews have historically been a peripatetic people who have pursued a diaspora strategy marked by stronger ethnocentrism and moral particularism which applies differing ethical standards to the treatment of in-group and out-group members.

I can point to plenty of instances where Whites applied extremely different ethical standards to outgroup members: negro slavery, the treatment of the American aborigines, the use of the atomic bomb against the Japanese, the so-called Holocaust (to whatever extent you believe there was one), etc. The question is why they didn’t fight back in this instance.

The voluntary cession of power by an elite, if that’s what it was, is a Darwinian anomaly that is not as easily explained as you appear to think. Does history contain prior instances of such an occurrence? Offhand, I can’t think of any.

“While Affirmative Action is denounced wholesale when Blacks ask for it, when Whites fail because Jews succeed, its the non-Jewish Whites who scramble for government quotas and hand-outs (speaking of those nice anti-Jewish quotas at the beginning of the 20th century).”

Angry Jew:

You contrast the politics of people separated by 100 years to insinuate that White Nationalists are hypocrites. In fact, it is contemporary left-wing Jews who are the inconsistent hypocrites, simultaneously supporting affirmative action to end inequality between white-skinned people and non-Whites, but ignoring inequality between Jews and non-Jewish Whites.

If white-skinned people as a whole (both Jewish and not) must be equalized with non-White people as a whole, while Jews and non-Jewish Whites remain unequal, then non-Jewish Whites will be below both Jews and non-Whites.

Let me use an example to illustrate. Imagine a town in which there are 50 families: 44 White families, 5 Black families, and 1 Jewish family. Suppose that the Black families earn an average of $50,000/year and the Jewish family earns $100,000/year. If a law is passed requiring the average income of all white-skinned people to equal the average income of the Black families, and the income of the Jewish family does not change, then the average income of the 44 White families must be reduced to $48,864 in order to comply with the law.

This gives a rough idea what would happen if a plan to equalize Black/White educational outcomes were adopted, without taking into account Jewish/Gentile educational inequality.

I am in favor of an either/or policy – either eliminate affirmative action altogether in favor of a completely colorblind meritocracy, or classify Jews and non-Jewish Whites separately and set the quotas accordingly. I think most Whites would be happy to take their chances in either system, as long as they are freed from the current double standard.

The Constitution today …. contains a great deal to be proud of. But credit does not belong to the Framers. It belongs to those who refused to acquiesce in outdated notion of “liberty “”justice” “equality”
This statement is true and candid.
The Constitution says what the Supreme Court says,as someone said.
We may expect to evolve and to refuse to accept the premises we have today.

Jewry should really be worshiping at the feet of the WASPs. It was the WASPs of the USA, Britain, Canada and Australia who saved them from annihilation by the nazis
what you don’ t understand is that they blame us. All gentiles are guilty of the ‘holocast’
expecting gratitude from the Jewish elite? HA that would imply they had to be grateful… which would imply they were not entitled…

as mentioned earlier -their hostility is growing, not subsiding..their agression will get worse, not better, someone on this blog once said first they criticized us, now they demonize us, next they will start to kill us..

there can be no other reason for the accelerated purging of white officers from the miltary, law enforcement, etc.

n/a: Sorry, but I don’t think that my dichotomy, although imperfect, was false. I identify the previously dominant elite white demographic as the descendants of the Puritans, and other New Englanders. Think founders of the Ivy League universities and Wall Street. By contrast, the Scots-Irish, as far as I know, were not well-represented in the forming of the key Northeastern elite institutions. Read David Hackett Fischer’s Albion’s Seed for more in this vein.

AngryJew: The difference between the past examples to which you point and the current situation is that past integration of Jews, Catholics, Blacks, etc., into elite WASP institutions occurred in the context of WASP cultural hegemony, which out-groups, under the influence of the New Left, no longer recognize. I’m part-Jewish…you can call me the Angry Part Jew…and, while I’m proud of my heritage, only the dishonest or willfully ignorant can fail to see the pernicious and degrading influence of Hollywood on our culture and Goldman Sachs and its ilk on our economy.

I want America to stay American, and not become some seething Third World polyglot cauldron.

Jewry should really be worshiping at the feet of the WASPs. It was the WASPs of the USA, Britain, Canada and Australia who saved them from annihilation by the nazis, the Soviet Union notwithstanding. It was the WASPs who allowed them unrestricted entry to the USA, access to elite educational institutions and freedom to pursue all commercial and professional activities. The WASP common law assured them of just and fair treatment both individually and in commerce. The WASP constitution gave them unalienable rights and protections. But Jewish hubris being as it is, instead of gratitude, WASPs are dismissed as effete has-beens.

Organized Jewry has used an intentional divide and conquer strategy to destroy the America that once existed, that many of us wish still existed. Are you so shocked that some of us are not happy about it? The ignorant mass of peasant stock may be happy with the sh-t, trash culture the Jewish elite have created, but many of us are disgusted by it. We are disgusted that an elite panders to the lowest of the low, intentionally, destroying a culture for the same of filthy mammon and yet more power.

Jews are masters of gamesmanship and zero-sum games, so it is absolutely true that they have mastered the art “of winning while creating gentile losers”. There is no question about this, that has been the Jewish game throughout history.

Henry Ford tried to warn us, but one man, even a great man, could not hold off the onslaught from the Jewish power elite. Now the old America is dead. We here stories from our grandparents about “the way it used to be” and realize the massive con that has been pulled over on us.

Jew are not builders and creators of great societies. Rather, they are destroyers: Destroyers who parasite off other peoples societies then rebuild them in their own image, so that the society suits them. They follow, manipulate, pervert, then control. This seems to be the only survival strategy that they know.

They then can’t leave well enough alone. Their next trick it to intentionally stoke antisemitism (so they call it) as this helps them to maintain their group cohesiveness. The true Jew relishes being the outsider, the hated. If he is not hated, he acts in a way that creates hate, it is a deep psychological need for many of them, as it justifies their own behavior.

They use ethnic networking far more effectively than any other group, then claim that the “old elite” was all based on ethnic networking! Well, perhaps, perhaps! It was not so. Perhaps instead the old elite were the RIGHTFUL elite for the society as it existed, rather than a HOSTILE elite such as we have now. An elite that has intentionally destroyed the livelihoods and communities of MILLIONS of Americans, and continues to do so without conscience.

The jews continue their policy of projection. Every negative thing they do is turned into something that someone else did or does, whether it’s running murderous gulags or engaging in the most racist, ethno-centric old boy network the world has ever seen. The good thing is their innate arrogance coming to the fore. As has been shown countless times in the past, they cannot stop themselves from bragging, lording it over all, crowing, mocking. And it always comes back to bite them. As it will in the US and Europe. Conditions are starting to sink at a more rapid rate for the average white. Good for whites in the long run. Bad for the jewish power structure in the long run. It’s all based on smoke, mirrors, fake money, media. When things are very bad, people will ignore the media. Jewish style messages won’t work when the whites finally see themselves as the target of a malevolent, hateful race of hypocritical, genocidal maniacs. Of course they really don’t have to go that far in their thinking. Just seeing that they’re targets, intended victims, and it’s all going to explode. Anyone who thinks they can get out of the coming mess by voting or some type of purely political process is engaging in wishful thinking. Wishful thinking that is as useless as the amateur attempts at misdirection by trolls like AngryJew.

When the dust clears, the blue blood, snobby, greedy cowards who got us into this will find it very hard to have much control over things.

This proves Elena Kagan is an open and avowed socialist. The woman declares that socialists must stick together instead of fracture in order to advance a socialist agenda, which Kagan advocates. 1

You can see for yourself right here (PDF). PULLED AT THE REQUEST OF PRINCETON UNIVERSITY EXERCISING ITS COPYRIGHT RIGHTS.

Keep in mind that Kagan wrote her thesis at the height of the cold war praising a group that collaborated with our enemies

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I’m getting blowback on this statement. When you couple Kagan’s thesis with her op-eds in the 80’s and her later work, I think it is a complete and fair statement. Look at the forest, not the trees.

What you were never meant to read:

Not surprisingly, the socialist trade-union movement was synonymous with the Jewish one. Leaders of unions that were not predominantly Jewish shared their members’ distaste for the Socialist Party, and the political sympathies of their unions reflected this fact. But among one set of unions – those in the garment trades – the Socialist Party reigned supreme. During the first two decades of the twentieth century, almost eighty percent of the city’s garment workers were Jewish men and women, whose political attitudes carried over into their labor organizations. The Jewish unions formed the organisational mainstay of New York City socialism…
– Kagan, p. 24http://www.redstate.com/erick/files/2010/05/kaganthesis.pdf

MacDonald: “Indeed, a good example of corruption and lack of principle among the new elite are the many defenses we now see of Kagan emanating from elite opinion makers despite her being the poster girl for ethnic nepotism and lack of real accomplishment.”

Comment: “Apparently logic is not Mr. Baltzell’s forte. The WASPs are an ethnoreligious group, so sharing power with minority groups dilutes their power BY DEFINITION. ”

Both are examples of what I have identified on my blog as the Judaic Two Step: the Judaic is always on both sides of the issue, thus head he wins, tails you lose.

“‘That kind of calibration of ‘what members of my team are on the front lines’ seems to me to be an antique kind of thing to do.’”

That’s the kind of broad-minded, liberal thinking that got the WASPs into trouble in the first place. ”

Reading a biography of Cioran, I learned that there was all kinds of “ethinic conflict” in Romania after WWI among groups I can’t keep straight — Transylvanians, Bulgarians, whatever. Anyway, there was some controversy about the makeup of their Olympic team, and a “fascist” leader said:

“What matter is not winning, but winning with your own people.”

Take that, Jackie Robinson!

Of course, that’s exactly the kind of “hate speech” Frau Kagan will be working to ban.

w we’re repaid. Ungrateful bast—-s.
indeed. Is there any sense of jewish gratitude towards wasps Nope, just increasing hostility after 100 + years here are jews more comfortable open and trusting? nope less.

articles like the wsj make the automatic assumption that the WASP elite was a closed system when it was actually more open than jewish power structures which remain more ethnocentric to this day.

No where in this article berating wasps for all their prejudices does frank even hint of jewish ethnic nepotism. Its a conincidence that kagan’s law dept or harvard (now ran by jews) or hollywood is almost exclusively jewish – ??

“While Affirmative Action is denounced wholesale when Blacks ask for it, when Whites fail because Jews succeed, its the non-Jewish Whites who scramble for government quotas and hand-outs”

It’s our country. Or at least it used to be and was supposed to be. We’re The Posterity that the Founders were talking about when they said, “For ourselves and our posterity.” That’s why.

The Ashkenazim came, by and large, as immigrants in the 19th and 20th centuries to an already-established country and were supposed to give their loyalty to us, The Posterity, not overthow our institutions, our elites and our way of life.
My dad was a soldier in the world war that pulled the Jews out of the camps and this is how we’re repaid. Ungrateful bast—-s.

If 140 + IQ non-Jewish Whites were to move in en masse to Israel and out-competed the Jews born there for desirable jobs and living quarters and called them failures for complaining, you think the natives would not be just a bit ticked off?

The WASP elite was no more committed to an absolutist notion of free speech, than a few left wing Jews. It is the height of historical ignorance to say so.

Imagine preaching abolition in the actual South, not safely in the North. Being an Atheist in 1850s America, and laughing when you are asked to swear an oath of office on a book you just ridiculed in an editorial. Imagine advocating divorce for hard-up couples in 1870. Joining a Swingers club in 1890. Or denouncing the WASP elite in 1905? Hard to imagine it happening in any meaningful way.

A second objection is the reification of the WASP elite. Jews were well integrated into America’s elites well before the American Revolution. Not a few prominent Catholics made their fortunes in the colonies, and non-Anglo-Saxons had some representation.

The whole WASP thing is exaggerated.

But me gets it.

What is bad for the black man, is good for the white man. While Affirmative Action is denounced wholesale when Blacks ask for it, when Whites fail because Jews succeed, its the non-Jewish Whites who scramble for government quotas and hand-outs (speaking of those nice anti-Jewish quotas at the beginning of the 20th century).

@Elvis H.: “It would be interesting to see how MacDonald can resolve the contradiction between this apparently voluntary cession of power and evolutionary theory, which would not seem to anticipate such an action.”

I take it you aren’t familiar with KMac’s writings about individualism in Western cultures and varying degrees of ethnocentrism among different peoples?

To wit, western peoples come from more ethnically homogenous societies that have historically favored individualism. Jews have historically been a peripatetic people who have pursued a diaspora strategy marked by stronger ethnocentrism and moral particularism which applies differing ethical standards to the treatment of in-group and out-group members.

“So the old WASP elite passes on, undone by its inability to defend itself. The question for the future: Will the Scots-Irish stand and fight?”

False dichotomy. “Scotch-Irish” (that is, people with Scotch-Irish surnames) were full members of the late “Protestant Establishment”. Nor does any appreciable bloc of unmixed “Scotch-Irish” exist in America.

Baltzell’s comment is quite consistent with my view that that the WASPs did not voluntarily cede control but were pushed out …

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I rather doubt that this new elite will be as willing to see itself eclipsed as the old one was.

Clearly, both of these statements can’t be true. Was the American WASP elite “willing” to see itself eclipsed, or were they pushed out? Since the change occurred without bloodshed, it’s reasonable to conclude they didn’t need to be pushed very hard, if they were pushed at all. It would be interesting to see how MacDonald can resolve the contradiction between this apparently voluntary cession of power and evolutionary theory, which would not seem to anticipate such an action.

We really need to explode this myth that America is a much more “meritocratic society” than it was in the past. Only Jews like Thomas Frank and David Brooks seem to believe this economistic nonsense. Take the example of Hollywood. Who after watching a popular movie (“Beverly Hills Chihuahua” for example) could conclude that Hollywood is a “meritocratic institution?” I can’t even fathom the level of intellect responsible for making (or wanting to watch) a film like that. The same goes for television, the publishing industry, academia, and even capitalism itself. There are hundreds of examples.

The WASPs lost the war in an afternoon. They were more bothered that Jews were uncouth than that they were fomenting cultural revolution. They kept them out of some country clubs but let them have the NYT. It was the polite thing to do.

me “Christophobic inclinations of Jews, the anti-male inclinations of feminists, and the anti-straight inclinations of homosexuals.”

The Democratic party, and the Liberal-Leftist-Communist-Jew ideology in general, is all about being anti-normal White people. All that talk about helping the “working class” and all that is nonsense, the “left” never attacks the Federal Reserve or Wall Street or finance. The “left” has no problem with the rich and undermines the working class by promoting illegal alien scabs.

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I read the original Wall Street Journal article and laughed at how confused the whole piece was. I guess this is the best analysis you can expect from the mainstream media.

The following paragraph is so hopelessly confused and self-contradictory!

—In “The Protestant Establishment,” Mr. Baltzell pointed to the prejudice and insularity of the elite as the eventual causes of its decline. “A crisis has developed in modern America largely because of the White-Anglo-Saxon Protestant establishment’s unwillingness, or inability, to share and improve its upper-class traditions by continuously absorbing talented and distinguished members of minority groups into its privileged ranks.” —

Apparently logic is not Mr. Baltzell’s forte. The WASPs are an ethnoreligious group, so sharing power with minority groups dilutes their power BY DEFINITION.

It was PRECISELY the open-mindedness and liberalism of the WASP elite that brought about its decline.

Indeed, this is captured in the article’s quote of a typical WASP elite – an Episcopalian bishop – as saying “tracking the ups and downs of socioreligious groups like WASPs is no longer relevant. That kind of calibration […] seems to me to be an antique kind of thing to do.”

It’s hard to believe but true. The WASPs traded tangible real power for the useless narcissistic joy of feeling ‘liberal’ and ‘openminded.’

Indeed, the WASPs would probably still be in power today if they had been more prejudiced and insular. But they weren’t. WASPs believed that Jews and other minorities, if welcomed into the elite, would share the same values as themselves such as pride in our American heritage, values, etc. But this turned out not to be the case. Unlike today’s elite – a coalition of Jews and other minorities hostile to Middle America – the WASP establishment, while a snobby bunch, always saw themselves as guardians of the American heritage.

And while WASP elites may have looked down on the common man – which is what elites do everywhere! – they were never a ‘hostile’ elite that actively worked against or sought out the destruction of Middle America. Why, because the WASP elite knew that they were of the same ethnoreligious background as Middle America (=WASP), but just the upper crust portion.

That’s why when Middle America cried for help after being hit by the wave of new immigrants from southern and eastern europe early in the 20th century, the WASP elite responded with the National Origins Act as Dr. MacDonald notes.

WASP elites probably believed that they could welcome talented non-WASPs into the elite and expect that these alien minorities would care as much for the American heritage and Middle America as WASP elites did themselves. But alas, that was not to be the case, and Middle America today suffers the consequences.

Sorry Mr. Baltzell, but you got it completely wrong. You should have praised the WASP elite for their openmindedness in relinquishing power to Jews and other minorities. But because it’s not PC to do so, you illogically claim that prejudice brought about their downfall. WASPs just can’t get a break can they? They thought their foolhardy liberalism in sharing power with minorities would win them social praise and adulation for their openmindedness, but instead those same minorities that have benefited from the WASP elite’s liberalism now ridicule the WASP elite and illogically attribute its decline to prejudice!

In response to a recent Pat Buchanan article on this same issue, I wrote:

“Will a Protestant and a Jew interpret the Constitution differently based on background faith? IMO, absolutely, because the post-tribalism that characterizes America’s founding documents (“All men are created equal” and “endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights…”) took a leap of faith that started from a Protestant jumping point. Thus, I think Jews are far more likely to be sympathetic to the kind of identity-politics tribalism that the Left panders to which IMO is completely out of alignment with what it means to be “American.”
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If Rodriguez thinks Jewry is going to give the other identity-politic tribes that together comprise the Left the same shake that the post-Christian WASPs foolishly gave the Jews, he’s going to be sadly mistaken. For example, in response to the same Buchanan article, I also noted:

“In the 111th Congress, there are a total of 257 Democrats in the House. Thirty-one of them are Jewish (all Congressional Jews are Democrats except for Eric Cantor, the only Jewish Republican). That’s nearly 12%. (Again, Jews comprise less than 2% of the country). And the ratio is even more out of balance in the Senate, where there are a total of 57 Democrats, plus two “Independents” that caucus with the Democrats. Of that total of 59 Senators, 13 are Jewish — an astounding 22%. How many black U.S. Senators are there? Only one: Roland Burris, the only black in the entire Senate, even though African-Americans comprise over 12% of the country (and a lot higher percentage than that of loyal Democratic Party voters).”
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Jewry is using the useful idiot ethnic tribes of the Left to gain totalitarian political power the same way it used the useful idiot Dispensationalists of the Right for political support in invading Iraq on behalf of Israel.

I still believe the concept of America as envisioned and integrated by the Protestant Founders that turned America into the most successful and powerful nation in the history of the world can work — but only so long as it re-establishes a strong Christian oversight, and repatriates the subversive and treasonous Jewish nation to Israel lock, stock and barrel.

Anything less than that, and the series of low level race wars that are already starting today between the black and Hispanic gangs in the SW will spread to include whites, and sooner or later we’ll have large scale race wars that end in another Civil War.

When Victums Rule , they will rule like tyrants , in fear of there own person . World Jewry already shows the complete disregard for logic and rational when it suits there interests . The new Communist structure they have built is called Multiculturalism , it twists in a similar manner .

OT, I was wondering what is going on at the Occidental Quarterly site. Their posts have stopped, and supposedly the editor has changed. Are they going to continue doing the journal?

Good post. I don’t think the WASPs ever had the notion that they were blocking anyone from elite status. I think they always had an open society. Sure, there were quota systems in some of the elite univeristies, which we never hear the end about, but the cutoffs were like 20-40% Jewish. That’s still a very liberal percentage for such a small group. Prominent Jews appear in government almost as soon as they were present in appreciable numbers. And even the backwards South had a Jewish secretary of state in the Confederacy, Judah Benjamin.

I learned long ago that this species is particularly poisonous. They combine and amplify the Christophobic inclinations of Jews, the anti-male inclinations of feminists, and the anti-straight inclinations of homosexuals. In addition, they tend to be totally humorless. The white man isn’t simply an opponent. He is the enemy who must not only be defeated but must be destroyed.