I'm more fed up with Crapcom and E~stealyourmoney~A, at lest Square Enix owns Eidos, who I will remind you have been making some good games like Deus Ex: Human Revolution and Hitman Absolution, to name a few.

Don't know why you would hate SE. Would the world be better off if they didn't publish anything? They publish Shonen Jump as well remember.

They admit their mistakes. FFXIII was not one of them. People from their traditional fanbase just didn't really like it. But if you think about it, every single final fantasy game has had a UNIQUE system of combat. Now that games have gotten quite advanced, they can make anything they want with combat, and they are making some very interesting, albeit frustrating ones.

The greatest let down, FF XIV, they openly admitted was a huge failure. They let people play it FREE for close to a year while they reshuffled the staff on the game, brought in some old blood, and remade almost the entire system, for a third time. (during the closed alpha tests they scrapped the first combat system. Apparently they made 2 and decided to test reactions to one of them during alpha, then a different one during beta.)

As a company, I think they are far more open minded than others out there. But they'll never quite be as good as, say, valve.

I am, only coz they talked about XIII Versus, had trailers and character names and all that stuff....... then never gave it to us :l
..and their games really are going down in quality.
Why make a sequel when there is no need for one?

I hadn't even completed the first XIII when the 2nd one came out so I was playing XIII day and night to see the ending coz I wanted to know why there was a 2nd one.

FFX2 was understandable coz who wouldn't wanna know if Yuna ever sees Tidus again?
And VII... after AC was made and we saw Zack, yeah it was nice to know his story - hence Crisis Core

So then I saw XIII's ending.... Yep, they saved cocoon, turned to crystal and Serah was reunited with Lightning and Snow. What else is there to tell? If anything, I would expect XIII-2 to be about Fang and Vanille..

I enjoyed XIII, and if SE had made XIII-2 under a different title, I probably would have took it as a completely new game and loved it.
Their past sequels were great. XIII-2, not so much.

Well, i don't hate them. The only thing I don't like about them is their release schedule. While I understand game creativity is a very long and dedicated process, i don't think it should take 6+ years to create a single game. I mean come one. WTF.

Thought I'd clear up a bit of tension about Final Fantasy Versus XIII:

The video leaked about FF being the 15th in the franchise is absolutely fake. The trailer of it is real on the screen, but it's edited. None of that is real. It's still going to be part of the Fabula Nova Crystallis series, although not directly related to the storyline of Lightning, Serah...blah blah blah. That said, it's not going to be "Final Fantasy XV" so everyone can relax if they've been worried, haha. Square Enix confirmed all of this.

Don't believe all of the rumors you hear or see without checking the main source of them or the websites they're on. Always understand what the maker of the game has said, confirmed, and denied...otherwise you'd just be stressing yourself out about a game. And that's not good. :3 It's just like when people heard that Versus was going to be cancelled.....a large number of people believed it right away and fell into a dark despair because they thought it was true --- alas, 'twas only a rumor, but enough for Square Enix to have to say something. So just don't worry 'bout it. ^o^

AS for Square Enix, however, it is slightly irritating how we just wait for announcements and then wait for some more. I feel as thought SE has a tendency to focus on way more than they should, even though the company is obviously filled with a great number of extremely talented individuals. However, their priorities should be straightened a tad bit more when it comes to the production of the games and the release of valuable information. Final Fantasy, no doubt, is a very successful franchise, but there aren't as many of these franchises from SE as I'm sure we'd all like to have. Personally, FF is my favorite series to play, but the wait time for new things is aggravating.

Versus would be nice, but how about that Final Fantasy X remastered edition for the PS3 and Vita? There's much FF fans are waiting for, and whether that's a problem inside SE (focusing on too much at once to really get everything done in a timely manner) or not, there obviously needs to be better means to be gone about.

Every company is out to make money inside the gaming industry or out of...just some more than others. Obviously companies such as Nintendo have a higher respect rate than that of other companies, but at the end of the day, it's how much money is made to stay in business and to keep making games. It's business. Not exactly done morally throughout all of the companies, but it issss what it is.

To top all of that off, I'd have to say that FFX is definitely my favorite in the FF franchise, and I'm extremely excited for the release, whenever it may happen. Same with Versus. However, FF XIII was an easy play, although it's really the only game I didn't care for. It seemed to me like a game thrown out there to make money in order to have some funds for other projects. It was weak in many different aspects and I found myself only really looking forward to the beautiful, aesthetic graphics. There's no doubt that the graphics of XIII were great and kept me playing -- now if only the gameplay was the same!

No, I am just kidding. But really, I grew up with Squaresoft/Square Enix, and they have provided me with hours of entertainment over the years. I can forgive them for some of the stuff they have done lately.

Don't know why you would hate SE. Would the world be better off if they didn't publish anything? They publish Shonen Jump as well remember.

That would be Shueisha, which has nothing to do with Square-Enix. Yes, Enix does have a manga a division, but that's not it.

As for the topic itself, I've been thinking that for a while. Squaresoft ran out of ideas around the PS1 days, and then merged with Enix to drag it down also, probably afraid that they couldn't compete. (Recall that in Japan, Dragon Quest is the bigger series for sales.) And they've been screwing up ever since. Personally, if Horii took that series and left S-E, I'd be done buying anything from them. They've become one of the big fronts about everything being about graphics that has taken hold in gaming these days...