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Ron, I took the liberty of correcting your links as you had them go directly to email rather than connecting to the website (url). Those links are pretty cool but do not reference the Firebird Steve was talking about. The ex-Fisher Firebird which was driven by Dick Brown in early '69 was wrecked at St Jovite in July of that year. It was replaced with a different Firebird which was built by the T/G (Titus/Godsall) team. Whether that ex-Fisher Firebird was rebuilt and sold is a question that nobody has been able to answer so far. That's my understanding anyway. If somebody knows different, please chime in.

Yikes: Maybe, someday, I'll get my ducks (and links and e-mails) in a row. Thanks for fixing them for me.Actually, I was addressing Steve Holmes question about the Javelin driven by Bob Tullius at MIS versus the one he drove in NASCAR Grand American (GT). Appears the MIS car was an '68 factory car made into a test mule ... with no reference to the NASCAR vehicle.

And now I've crossed my own replies. I got myself in a hurry with the Brown Camaro; and was quickly corrected by you and others.Maybe I'll stick with sending you images and letting you caption them (so far, you've done a far better job then my memory allows). LOLI may start rescanning the 1969 Mid-Ohio images and sending them ... soon.

Adding some AMC Javelin photos from the Wolverine Trans-Am courtesy of "Javelin GT" and "klvn8r" from this AMC forum.

This particular photo shows the hood up and reveals the taller manifold and aircleaner used by the Javelin team at that particular race.It is obvious that the blistered hood is necessary for clearance.

Also, there is a nice short interview with Ronnie Kaplan on tajavelin.com where he describes the special engine used by the Javelin teamto start the '69 season. This special engine based on the 343 block rather than the 290 and with a lower deck height, taller manifold, dominator carbs, etc is the reason why they were so fast at that Michigan race. Sadly for the AMC team, somebody didn't properly homolgate that engine (fill out the proper paperwork) so it couldn't be used for the rest of the season.

Here's Bob Tullius' Javelin back by the garages. I believe this car of Bob's was one of the team cars from the '68 season.

My understanding is that Tullius' Javelin was an official AMC team car at the beginning of the '69 season and these photos seems to support that.

You pose a very interesting question, Ron. Both 1968 JRT Javelins are accounted for, one in Dallas TX, the other, in Canada, I believe. Strangely, the 69 cars seem to have a somewhat checkered past. I have a few pictures from the 80s and 90s of one of the 69 cars at a reunion race at Watkins Glen, and another at Road Atlanta. I also recall a story about one of the 69 team cars being stolen from its owner in the Pennsylvania area, about ten years (or more?) back. There was some talk of it being 'cloned' when it disappeared. That car on the Concept Carz page at one point, is/was owned by Craig Jackson. What that car is, I'm unsure. Appears to be a 69 chassis and paint, but the front clip is all 1970. Note the ram air hood, and different style grille and bumper from 69 Javelins. Is it the 'theft' recovered car? Is it the other car? I don't know....all I can do is speculate, at this point.