Tommy wrote:I believe film cost will come down drastically, in the future...due to new techniques in manufacturing being spurred by 3-d printing and 3-d bio-printing

The thing about 3-D printing is that you can create one-offs and short runs efficiently, but if you already have the plastic dies, injection molding is way, way, WAY cheaper. Kodak can pump out those plastic Super 8 cartridges for a penny or two. Plastic costs next to nothing. It's the film and assembly that costs money and that wouldn't be affected by 3-D printing.

Tommy wrote:I believe film cost will come down drastically, in the future...due to new techniques in manufacturing being spurred by 3-d printing and 3-d bio-printing

The thing about 3-D printing is that you can create one-offs and short runs efficiently, but if you already have the plastic dies, injection molding is way, way, WAY cheaper. Kodak can pump out those plastic Super 8 cartridges for a penny or two. Plastic costs next to nothing. It's the film and assembly that costs money and that wouldn't be affected by 3-D printing.

Film isn't 3-d printed Cartridges aren't that cheap. I suppose Kodak has still a good price but it likely costs around 1 Euro. When purchasing these as in retail the price is with 144 pcs near Euro 3.

aj wrote:Film isn't 3-d printed Cartridges aren't that cheap. I suppose Kodak has still a good price but it likely costs around 1 Euro. When purchasing these as in retail the price is with 144 pcs near Euro 3.

That was my point (sorry I didn't spell out that film isn't 3D printed). While Kodak might sell a cartridge for a 3 Euro, the component parts are certainly less than 10 cents in plastic, probably less. The pressure plate spring probably costs more than the plastic. When you factor in all the other machine, electricity and labor costs, you're probably right...but I'd expect no more than $1 for the whole cartridge. But if you 3D printed it, it would probably be $4 just for the plastic parts.

In other words, 3D printing the only things that can be 3D printed would simply add significantly to the cost.

oh, it undoubtedly will be a standard C-mount. creating a new form of C-mount lens would mean that only the two lenses they sell with the camera could be implemented, and their goal is to create a versatile unit. Their design is based upon the Logmar (and to a lesser extent Beaulieu) which both feature a standard C-mount, and it will not be implementing a Bolex-style prism-beam-splitter so there should be no need to change the flange-focal distance.

oh, it undoubtedly will be a standard C-mount. creating a new form of C-mount lens would mean that only the two lenses they sell with the camera could be implemented, and their goal is to create a versatile unit. Their design is based upon the Logmar (and to a lesser extent Beaulieu) which both feature a standard C-mount, and it will not be implementing a Bolex-style prism-beam-splitter so there should be no need to change the flange-focal distance.

Good to know. I have a complete set of Switars and a Monital 8-26 c-mount zoom lens that seems perfect for this camera.
Is it true that it has a widened gate for 16:9 shooting?

Lunar07 wrote:Good to know. I have a complete set of Switars and a Monital 8-26 c-mount zoom lens that seems perfect for this camera.
Is it true that it has a widened gate for 16:9 shooting?

The camera should be Max-8mm, which is widened (much like Super-16mm) to a 1.58:1 aspect ratio... so not quite as wide as Super-16 (1.66) or 16:9 (1.77:1), but still a sizable increase in surface area.

I've been collecting these for my Beaulieu 5008s MS (and my Beaulieu Reflex Control 16mm camera), but the light meter on the 5008s has just stopped working. Pretty perfect timing to pick up this new camera!