BarneyGumble wrote:Maybe this is why the Jazz have a hard time attracting/retaining free agents. Today's cream puff stars feel entitled to everything and dont want any accountability.

But that's always been the case. I think it has more to do with location than anything else. Moreover, if all the league has are cream puff stars, then what are other teams supposed to do, lose out of spite?

I_Like_Dirt wrote:The whole comparison to Kevin McHale is ridiculously close, imo... And that's without more hilarious aspects of the comparison, e.g. if Wally Sczerbiak were 7 feet tall with the slower reflexes that came with the additional height, he'd be Bargnani.

BarneyGumble wrote:Maybe this is why the Jazz have a hard time attracting/retaining free agents. Today's cream puff stars feel entitled to everything and dont want any accountability.

But that's always been the case. I think it has more to do with location than anything else. Moreover, if all the league has are cream puff stars, then what are other teams supposed to do, lose out of spite?

Do what the Jazz do...weed out the cream puff stars by offering and sticking to incentive laden contracts.

BarneyGumble wrote:Maybe this is why the Jazz have a hard time attracting/retaining free agents. Today's cream puff stars feel entitled to everything and dont want any accountability.

You're looking at this entirely wrong. They get paid more for reaching incentives. It's a positive thing for the players. (i.e. $10m base salary + another $2m if you reach your goal. Now you're a $12m player, instead of $10.)

BarneyGumble wrote:Maybe this is why the Jazz have a hard time attracting/retaining free agents. Today's cream puff stars feel entitled to everything and dont want any accountability.

You're looking at this entirely wrong. They get paid more for reaching incentives. It's a positive thing for the players. (i.e. $10m base salary + another $2m if you reach your goal. Now you're a $12m player, instead of $10.)

BarneyGumble wrote:Maybe this is why the Jazz have a hard time attracting/retaining free agents. Today's cream puff stars feel entitled to everything and dont want any accountability.

No, they have a hard time attracting free agents because it's **** Utah. Black guys don't want to live and spend all their time there.

Tell that to Deron Williams, who still lives there even after Utah traded him. Or many of the former Utah players. There is a reason that Utah has more people moving there than any other state. The outdoors are amazing. It is the Mormon culture that keeps me away.

BarneyGumble wrote:Maybe this is why the Jazz have a hard time attracting/retaining free agents. Today's cream puff stars feel entitled to everything and dont want any accountability.

No, they have a hard time attracting free agents because it's **** Utah. Black guys don't want to live and spend all their time there.

Tell that to Deron Williams, who still lives there even after Utah traded him. Or many of the former Utah players. There is a reason that Utah has more people moving there than any other state. The outdoors are amazing. It is the Mormon culture that keeps me away.

Mitchell spent all summer there and seems to genuinely enjoy the place. Utah is a great place to live for many reasons.

Soulcatcher33 wrote:No, they have a hard time attracting free agents because it's **** Utah. Black guys don't want to live and spend all their time there.

Right. They'd be missing out on all that diversity that Boston has to offer....

HA!

Agreed, but from Boston, you can get to a lot of other major cities in a heartbeat. Not so much in Salt Lake.

I_Like_Dirt wrote:The whole comparison to Kevin McHale is ridiculously close, imo... And that's without more hilarious aspects of the comparison, e.g. if Wally Sczerbiak were 7 feet tall with the slower reflexes that came with the additional height, he'd be Bargnani.

BarneyGumble wrote:Maybe this is why the Jazz have a hard time attracting/retaining free agents. Today's cream puff stars feel entitled to everything and dont want any accountability.

But that's always been the case. I think it has more to do with location than anything else. Moreover, if all the league has are cream puff stars, then what are other teams supposed to do, lose out of spite?

Do what the Jazz do...weed out the cream puff stars by offering and sticking to incentive laden contracts.

Zero rings and counting... And I really like the Jazz, honest. Ricky+Mitchell+Hayward+Ingles+Gobert might have been enough this year to take out GSW.

I_Like_Dirt wrote:The whole comparison to Kevin McHale is ridiculously close, imo... And that's without more hilarious aspects of the comparison, e.g. if Wally Sczerbiak were 7 feet tall with the slower reflexes that came with the additional height, he'd be Bargnani.