For my chestnut Westbournes which are from the benchgrade collection I use Saphir cognac, both cream and wax. Sometimes I throw some Mahogany on the toe cap (1/4 of the time), but only the wax not the cream. For my Hangrade Somervilles, which are also called chestnut (but are a completely different color - much more red), I use Saphir mahogany cream and wax.

Good to know...I prefer Saphir too but he did not have the creams in stock, only the wax. I'll have to add the mahogany to my next Saphir order.

The C&J's they carry in US D (normal) width are not on sale, suggesting there is more demand for D than E. it appears they have overstocked their E widths as they have been on sale for quite some time.

OK, got it. Read that wrong and thought you meant that they only sell US E width.

i just don't like creams...i don't think they are good for shoes...its just my personal experience.

my chestnut monktons have developed a very nice reddish brown patina over time...they are one of my oldest pairs of C&J's...and they look fantastic...

All I have ever used on them is mahogany wax and dark brown wax...

I find the C&J Chestnut on its own a little too orangish for my liking...so I am glad the way my chestnut monkton's have patina'd over time

It is one of those shoes....where if my pair ever wear out to the point of death....I would definitely order another pair immediately to replace them. They are one of my favorite pairs of my collection of 20+ pairs of C&J's...