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Why? I will not stand the humiliation to apply for a THAI passport and citizen.. its not worth the effort.

Its like a curse this passport.. go to europe? no automatic visa (in my case anyway) go to america..forget about it ,..u probebly go to work in the rice fields in the RICH foriegners countries.. hehe

BUT you have 2 passports so its different.

Again.. I won't stand the humiliation to apply for a THAI passport .

FINAL- WELL DONE CONGRATIOLATIONS

The process that I described could easily be construed as humiliating if taken out of context. In reality, the opposite was true. The people handling my application treated me very fairly, by the book, and were very nice and undferstanding about the whole process in general.

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So can you answer the questions about your PR, salary, tax paid, length of time in LOS etc. I reckon a load of guys here would want to have it but cannot even dream about the PR let alone pay the near 200k etc.

C'mon, fill in some of the gaps. Thanks.

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Just curious, where are you registered at? I was told by the Police in Bangkok that I needed to apply for citizenship in the province my husbands house registration is located in. But, unfortunately, Surat Thani police are clueless. I was hoping to be able to try Bangkok, so am curious if you are Bangkok resident or not?

You can lodge your application only to the police HQ of the Jangwat that appears on your Tabien Bahn. Doesn't matter what your husband's Tabien Bahn says, it's only yours that matters. You are considered a married couple for the purposes of your Citizenship application so long as you cohabitate, regardless of what your respective Tabien Bahn say your address is.

This all means that you don't have to be on the same one as your husband. You can be on any Tabien Bahn in Bangkok, even temporarily, if that's where you want to apply.

I think they were having fun with you. If they wanted to find out how well you speak Thai, all they had to do was do a one on one interview.

The fact that they gave you a microphone and had you sing in front of 40 people was a typical good humored Thai way. I remember going through that when i first arrived in Thailand many years ago. You'll always smile when you look back at that.

I think they were having fun with you. If they wanted to find out how well you speak Thai, all they had to do was do a one on one interview.

The fact that they gave you a microphone and had you sing in front of 40 people was a typical good humored Thai way. I remember going through that when i first arrived in Thailand many years ago. You'll always smile when you look back at that.

Actually, I was told by the Special Branch Police (who handle citizenship applications) that the ability to sing the National Anthem was a requirement for citizenship.

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To sing the National Anthem should be required to get citizenship of any country. Usually, to get citizenship, you should have been there so long allready there should be no problem in singing the national anthem. I took me 3 months the sing the Thai National Anthem fluently, I can only speak a little Thai, but I can sing the National Anthem fluently. Hope other countries have the same requirements......................

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Not sure why you chose to go through all this humiliation ! But you obviously had your reasons !

If you are from Africa or the Indian Sub-Continent or such, then Thai citizenship may be regarded as useful.

But you kept schtuum on this.

But otherwise ... Why bother ?

1. You can buy land ... Ok.

2. You can drive a Tuk Tuk ... Yea Ok I guess.

3. Entry to the Grand Palace ... Ok if you go every weekend.

4. You can own a business ... Mmmm.

5. No comment.

6. So Bt 1,900 a year is a problem for you ?

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8. Ok.

9. Sounds like you are on the Lam.

10. Why would you want to vote ?.

Naka.

I agree with Naka. I would never do it. The more I know Thai people (and authorities)the more I thank God to have been born a farang. Of course the OP has a different opinion so congrats to him for a citizenship that allows him to permanently stay with his family.

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Simply don't have the patience or mindset for such a protracted paper chase,

Whether you have the patience and the mindset is really beside the point if you do not have the basic qualifications to proceed, of which PR seems to be the most important but is not in itself sufficient.Visa runners for example need not waste their time by even thinking about the subject.In response to another poster who questioned whether anyone from a rich country would be interested in Thai citizenship, I profoundly disagree.Many of us (from rich countries) are committed to Thailand and would be very happy to confirm this through citizenship.I find dbrenn's account rather inspiring and illustrates that it is not just the likes of Bill Heinecke who can achieve this objective.

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As for the naysayers, perhaps it isn't something they need/want given their lifestyle.

For me, I would gladly pay 1 million baht if I could skip all the hassles and time involved and just "buy" my citizenship. Three years is a long time; of course a lot of this time you were just waiting and not actively doing anything.

As far as the PR; for me personally not something I want as I'm 50 and don't think the Thai government will drastically change the visa rules for retirees. Currently, I don't find anything really hard about meeting the requirements for my retirement visa. Actually I'd say I devote less than 10 hours a year to maintain my visa.

I don't see anything humiliating about the process you went through. Perhaps English is not the native language of the poster who wrote that.