At some point, a GM HAS to draw a line in the sand and say "Nobody on defense is worth as much as the top franchise QBs. Nobody."

Suh is the new poster boy. Dolphins WAY overpaid him. How many Super Bowl appearances did he produce? Exactly 0.

There is a difference between market value and salary cap value to a team. QBs are already being overpaid based upon their salary cap value to a team. But there aren't 32 good QBs in the NFL and the QB position gets the most respect. That situation will get resolved once the salary cap stops growing by forcing the QBs to renegotiate or go play for a losing team. Most will negotiate and agree to a lower future salary.

Defensive players are much more easily replaced. Take Mack, for example. He's been here for 4 seasons. The defense has been no better than mediocre in any of those 4 years. Could the Raiders still field a mediocre defense without Mack? Sure!

If Mack plays here for 4 more seasons, is it a guarantee that the Raiders will appear in the Super Bowl with him as a starter all season long? No! And if he gets a $30 million per year contract, will his teammates get better? No! Because the more he gets, the less the other defensive players have left to receive.

I don't know anything about Mack's contract demands, but I would support Reggie drawing a line in the sand and saying " $X million is the Raiders top offer" and if Mack's agent balks, then Mack could find himself on another team.

Fans can bitch and moan, but sooner or later a small $$$ owner HAS to deal with reality. Suh has been mostly irrelevant in terms of raising his team's play and carrying that team "on his back." Peyton Manning carried his teams on his back - and he was a QB, not a defensive player.

Message to Mack's agent: Take the Reggie special contract offered to your client and walk away with your $$$. Let Mack be idolized by the Raiders fans.

Raiders trade Mack and his salary to another team for a decent defensive starter at a much lower salaryandbecause Mack is definitely a better player than the player being offered in return, Reggie would need a 1st, 2nd or 3rd round draft pick plus other considerations to even it up.

Ivanavich wrote Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:37 pm:At some point, a GM HAS to draw a line in the sand and say "Nobody on defense is worth as much as the top franchise QBs. Nobody."

Suh is the new poster boy. Dolphins WAY overpaid him. How many Super Bowl appearances did he produce? Exactly 0.

There is a difference between market value and salary cap value to a team. QBs are already being overpaid based upon their salary cap value to a team. But there aren't 32 good QBs in the NFL and the QB position gets the most respect. That situation will get resolved once the salary cap stops growing by forcing the QBs to renegotiate or go play for a losing team. Most will negotiate and agree to a lower future salary.

Defensive players are much more easily replaced. Take Mack, for example. He's been here for 4 seasons. The defense has been no better than mediocre in any of those 4 years. Could the Raiders still field a mediocre defense without Mack? Sure!

If Mack plays here for 4 more seasons, is it a guarantee that the Raiders will appear in the Super Bowl with him as a starter all season long? No! And if he gets a $30 million per year contract, will his teammates get better? No! Because the more he gets, the less the other defensive players have left to receive.

I don't know anything about Mack's contract demands, but I would support Reggie drawing a line in the sand and saying " $X million is the Raiders top offer" and if Mack's agent balks, then Mack could find himself on another team.

Fans can bitch and moan, but sooner or later a small $$$ owner HAS to deal with reality. Suh has been mostly irrelevant in terms of raising his team's play and carrying that team "on his back." Peyton Manning carried his teams on his back - and he was a QB, not a defensive player.

Message to Mack's agent: Take the Reggie special contract offered to your client and walk away with your $$$. Let Mack be idolized by the Raiders fans.

No. Raiders already had too many draft picks, and teams don't yet know who they are willing to trade (including the Raiders). Player trades are best made in August and September - fewer unknowns to deal with.Plus... Raiders have a new HC. He needs time to evaluate the roster.

I believe this might be the third thread regarding Mack's status of not being at OTA. The season has not started yet, Gruden needs to be patient with labor negotiatons. All players are just following their agent suggestions. Cooper will do the same thing next year unless he get a similar contract to Mack.