meh Grindcore?

ok as most of you may relate to, my tastes in music are changing at an extremely rapid pace. last year i was dying to hear **** like atreyu/killswitch/trivium, all that metalcore stuff, but over the months i have developed a more "aggressive" sense for music. right now i like **** like black dahlia murder(pre-nocturnal), all shall perish, acacia strain, red chord...**** like that. anywho, im looking for more stuff to listen to and i often see me "forcign" myself to try to listen to some grindcore. if it is any help, could you prefer some good g-core bands that dont absolutely suck? i dont want any of that crazy nonstop high noted solo ****, but more of the "heavier" side to grindcore, almost red chord-esque, but not.

†death_boy†

09-20-2007, 09:17 PM

Pig Destroyer

pucci6d6

09-20-2007, 09:18 PM

edit:nvm my post, the guy above me is pretty smart i was about to edit and say them, oh well
go back to the metalcore anyway

mohawkkidJohn

09-20-2007, 09:19 PM

Job for a cowboy, necrophaigist, eradication, i killed the prom queen(to some dipute to other ugers)

janecoffin27

09-20-2007, 09:22 PM

Death/grind is good. Origin, Cephalic Carnage, Dripping, and especially Lykathea Aflame. Look up "Land Where Sympathy Is Air." It's on their Myspace.

I don't know if this is exactly what you wanted but it's good grind-influenced stuff.

Edit: God, how could I forget Bolt Thrower. Kudos, guy below me. "Realm of Chaos" is a classic.

MorbidVirus

09-20-2007, 09:22 PM

You should try moving away from all the "core"and go straight into Death Metal if you want real aggressive brutality.
Grindcore is mostly just... noise ...but it has some bands that stand out.

Napalm Death
Early Carcass
Bolt Thrower
Repulsion
Terrorizer

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oh and stay away from that "scene-grind" Job for a cowboy stuff, that **** is straight out gay.

Why should he avoid The Locust? They will remain one of the best noise bands in history. Yea I know they are famous now but I don't care. I love The Locust and always will. You shouldn't be discouraged because all these little kids listen to them to be extreme.

SadistNation

09-25-2007, 03:33 PM

dude, i kinda like the Locust, ha, and the OLD SYNT, but that's just me. But none of the stuff that Mohawk posted is Grind, no offense Mow. But Guitarwannabe pretty much has it

Mind sending me some of their stuff, or a link to their myspace? Tried looking them up, got a garbage deathcore band.

Disco Vietnam

09-26-2007, 02:57 PM

Mind sending me some of their stuff, or a link to their myspace? Tried looking them up, got a garbage deathcore band.
Sure thing man, I'll dig up two of their albums.

ShellBlast

09-26-2007, 03:10 PM

I like some of their stuff but sometimes the vocals annoy the hell out of me when he does that psychedelic stuff. I also hate how crappy some of their cds are recording.

DressingCold

09-26-2007, 04:47 PM

Swarrrm is the most chaotic band on the planet.

By the way Dressing, do you have any Unholy Grave you could send?

pm'd you an album.

SadistNation

09-26-2007, 04:55 PM

DressingCold....you are a god of knowledge, and may you also send me whatever Disco wanted, i'd probably like it. ha

guitarwannabe16

09-26-2007, 05:59 PM

Sure thing man, I'll dig up two of their albums.
Way to hook a bro up. Thanks dude.

StuartR

09-26-2007, 08:06 PM

Why should he avoid The Locust? They will remain one of the best noise bands in history. Yea I know they are famous now but I don't care. I love The Locust and always will. You shouldn't be discouraged because all these little kids listen to them to be extreme.

Not noise.

Stupified

09-26-2007, 08:08 PM

Only one I have ever liked is Napalm Death, and even still not all their songs =T

Heavy stuff g-core -.-

technicolour

09-26-2007, 09:49 PM

Why Is There A "meh" In Front Of Grindcore?!

Disco Vietnam

09-26-2007, 11:32 PM

pm'd you an album.
Thanks so much dude, you are a life saver!

I-am-hollywood

09-26-2007, 11:53 PM

Dr. Acula welll their sorta are but their mostly just awesome.

STABxYOU

09-27-2007, 12:45 AM

^ No, they're crap. Scenegrind is little more then a really unfunny joke.

DiamondOfBlood

09-27-2007, 09:37 AM

Friggin cryptopsy..albums with mike disalvo..his voice was crit'd for its hardcore-ish sound..that might give something red chord-"ish"...but any album by them is insane grind...

DiamondOfBlood

09-27-2007, 09:47 AM

^ No, they're crap. Scenegrind is little more then a really unfunny joke.

i get that vibe from them..especially when they pig squeel..but i like em..shocker on shock street is great

Paracetamol

09-27-2007, 09:49 AM

^ No, they're crap. Scenegrind is little more then a really unfunny joke.
I like Dr.Acula because they're a joke...and I think it's funny.

StuartR

09-27-2007, 11:52 AM

Friggin cryptopsy..albums with mike disalvo..his voice was crit'd for its hardcore-ish sound..that might give something red chord-"ish"...but any album by them is insane grind...

No it's not, it's death metal!

FFS!

DiamondOfBlood

09-27-2007, 01:24 PM

No it's not, it's death metal!

FFS!
..anyway without havng a HUGE genre battle that will waste approx. 30 posts..listen to them anyway..specifically whisper supremacy..they have a jazz influence much like the red chord..and disalvos vocals should appeal to you..

technicolour

09-27-2007, 03:49 PM

..anyway without havng a HUGE genre battle that will waste approx. 30 posts..listen to them anyway..specifically whisper supremacy..they have a jazz influence much like the red chord..and disalvos vocals should appeal to you..

Everyone knows that None so vile and Once was not are their best albums, because Lord Worm slays.

:rolleyes:

although there is truth to that.

Early Gorerotted is grindy, according to metal archives, I can hear it.

DiamondOfBlood

09-27-2007, 08:53 PM

Everyone knows that None so vile and Once was not are their best albums, because Lord Worm slays.

:rolleyes:

although there is truth to that.

Early Gorerotted is grindy, according to metal archives, I can hear it.

indeed sir...indeed

STABxYOU

09-28-2007, 01:00 AM

..anyway without havng a HUGE genre battle that will waste approx. 30 posts..listen to them anyway..specifically whisper supremacy..they have a jazz influence much like the red chord..and disalvos vocals should appeal to you..

Deathcore and death metal have nothing to do with grindcore. If you want to talk about Cryptopsy there's an entire forum dedicated to metal. -.-

Hey, I like Tool, so let's talk about Tool in the grindcore thread too. Yay for not being snobs.

mr freezy

09-28-2007, 11:47 AM

Buy "scum" buy Napalm Death, its the best grind album IMO

STABxYOU

09-28-2007, 12:05 PM

It's very good, but it seems you've never heard Pig Destroyer - 38 Counts Of Battery.

Disco Vietnam

09-28-2007, 12:13 PM

Or Insect Warfare - World Extermination.

Spiritual_Cramp

09-28-2007, 12:47 PM

Insect Warfare - World Extermination.

Should be PM'd to me.

:]

DiamondOfBlood

09-28-2007, 01:07 PM

Hey, I like Tool, so let's talk about Tool in the grindcore thread too. Yay for not being snobs.

do you feel like your tough **** because you can mouth off on the internet? seriously get over it dude...

ShellBlast

09-28-2007, 01:36 PM

It's very good, but it seems you've never heard Pig Destroyer - 38 Counts Of Battery.

Gah! Dude come on best grindcore album ever is World Downfall by Terrorizer.

radio_schizo

09-28-2007, 02:48 PM

Discordance Axis are the best grind band full stop. Grindcore is a genre that is very hit or miss, mainly miss, but Discordance Axis just stand out above the rest for me. Amazing musicianship and songs & cool concepts and album artwork.

guitarwannabe16

09-28-2007, 05:20 PM

Discordance Axis are the best grind band full stop. Grindcore is a genre that is very hit or miss, mainly miss

Seriously, shut the **** up
or what are you gonna threatin me over the computor?

mr.joopy987

10-04-2007, 10:35 PM

or what are you gonna threatin me over the computor?
No.
I am going to ignore you, because you are clearly incredibly ignorant.

aperfectshot176

10-04-2007, 10:39 PM

No.
I am going to ignore you, because you are clearly incredibly ignorant.
yes, yes i am. thanx for noticing, that still doesnt change the fact that this type of music discussed in this forum is a disgrace to the word "music" and to the instruments your "artists" play it on

MustangMan311

10-04-2007, 10:43 PM

or what are you gonna threatin me over the computor?
r u lik typin wrung on my intenet

mr.joopy987

10-04-2007, 10:43 PM

yes, yes i am. thanx for noticing, that still doesnt change the fact that this type of music discussed in this forum is a disgrace to the word "music" and to the instruments your "artists" play it on
Hmm. Let's think about this one.
Music is only a word, and it means, pretty much, the arrangement of tones. I don't understand how you can disgrace that, unless you aren't playing tones, in which case you would not be able to be heard.
As for the instruments, it is the kids who try and start Sabbath cover bands before they know how to play a note, and then claim to be infinitesimally better than "hardcore emo fag music" that truly disgrace the instruments their mommies bought them.

aperfectshot176

10-04-2007, 10:45 PM

u got me on the music, but your second patt is totally irrelevent on my part, but i guess your too hardcore to care

mr.joopy987

10-04-2007, 10:46 PM

u got me on the music, but your second post is totally irrelevent on my part, but i guess your too hardcore to care
Absolutely. I'm too busy playing disgraceful music on disgraced instruments.

aperfectshot176

10-04-2007, 10:49 PM

i figured you were too busy playing noise, not music ,noise theres a better word for it. im curious on how you ppl can justify your **** as a song or as good music. with pointlessly dropped tuned guitars and pointless melodyless screaming and pig **** on top of it how is that a song?

MustangMan311

10-04-2007, 11:16 PM

i figured you were too busy playing noise, not music ,noise theres a better word for it. im curious on how you ppl can justify your **** as a song or as good music. with pointlessly dropped tuned guitars and pointless melodyless screaming and pig **** on top of it how is that a song?
Pointlessly drop-tuned guitars? Heavier sound, dumbass.
Pointless melody-less screaming? I'm sure singing would sound fantastic over top of it.
Pig ****? Not grindcore.

Pig sqeals are NOT GRINDCORE FOLKS. Unless you think grindcore is ****ty nu-jack bull like WTC or Impending Doom.

i figured you were too busy playing noise, not music ,noise theres a better word for it. im curious on how you ppl can justify your **** as a song or as good music. with pointlessly dropped tuned guitars and pointless melodyless screaming and pig **** on top of it how is that a song?
Its good because we like it. I like how you come into the HARDCORE section and start bull****ting about DEATH METAL. If you've even heard good Technical Deathmetal, such as the Faceless, you'll see that they're extremely good musicians, and that their material is so much harder to play than Black Sabbath or Iron Maiden.

And true grindcore, the kind we like to endorse around here, is just a faster, meaner, more vicious form of punk mixed in with hardcore elements, something you seem to like, seeing as how you have Misfits avatar. So please know something about the music you're ragging on next time you decide to come in out of nowhere and try to convince devoted fans that their music sucks.

mortiis999

10-05-2007, 07:48 AM

Pig sqeals are NOT GRINDCORE FOLKS. Unless you think grindcore is ****ty nu-jack bull like WTC or Impending Doom.
.

Pig squeals originated in brutal death and death/grind. And those bands are death metal. Just bad death metal.

guitarwannabe16

10-05-2007, 04:14 PM

Pig squeals originated in brutal death and death/grind. And those bands are death metal. Just bad death metal.
This is my point. But people take these bands and interpret them as grind simply because they have pig squeals or undiscernable guitar parts. Simply isnt what grind is.

aperfectshot176

10-06-2007, 04:22 PM

Pig sqeals are NOT GRINDCORE FOLKS. Unless you think grindcore is ****ty nu-jack bull like WTC or Impending Doom.

Its good because we like it. I like how you come into the HARDCORE section and start bull****ting about DEATH METAL. If you've even heard good Technical Deathmetal, such as the Faceless, you'll see that they're extremely good musicians, and that their material is so much harder to play than Black Sabbath or Iron Maiden.

And true grindcore, the kind we like to endorse around here, is just a faster, meaner, more vicious form of punk mixed in with hardcore elements, something you seem to like, seeing as how you have Misfits avatar. So please know something about the music you're ragging on next time you decide to come in out of nowhere and try to convince devoted fans that their music sucks.

Yeah i did put those two genres together, because 3/4 of this current grindcore/ hardcore **** sounds identical to it. if hardcore and that **** is "faster, meaner, more vicious" form of punk rock, how does job for a cowboy, black my heart, dr.aculla sound anything like punk? and the 80's hardcore, true hardcore, like black flag and minor threat were true hardcore. this 2000's hardcore with the exception of a few boston bands are a ****ing disgrace and a joke. it isnt hardcore, its ****ing bull****.

mr.joopy987

10-06-2007, 04:43 PM

Yeah i did put those two genres together, because 3/4 of this current grindcore/ hardcore **** sounds identical to it. if hardcore and that **** is "faster, meaner, more vicious" form of punk rock, how does job for a cowboy, black my heart, dr.aculla sound anything like punk? and the 80's hardcore, true hardcore, like black flag and minor threat were true hardcore. this 2000's hardcore with the exception of a few boston bands are a ****ing disgrace and a joke. it isnt hardcore, its ****ing bull****.
Most of us think that too. When we say hardcore, we don't mean metalcore, we are talking about hardcore punk.
And there are band around today that still play faster, angrier, heavier, punk rock and call it hardcore.

zayG

10-06-2007, 06:14 PM

Yeah i did put those two genres together, because 3/4 of this current grindcore/ hardcore **** sounds identical to it. if hardcore and that **** is "faster, meaner, more vicious" form of punk rock, how does job for a cowboy, black my heart, dr.aculla sound anything like punk? and the 80's hardcore, true hardcore, like black flag and minor threat were true hardcore. this 2000's hardcore with the exception of a few boston bands are a ****ing disgrace and a joke. it isnt hardcore, its ****ing bull****.

I personally find it funny how you put JFAC, BMH, and Dr. Acula in one sentence.

One is ****ty deathcore, one is FSU the ban- err, Boston Hardcore, and the latter is scene grind.

werty22

10-06-2007, 06:21 PM

Yeah i did put those two genres together, because 3/4 of this current grindcore/ hardcore **** sounds identical to it. if hardcore and that **** is "faster, meaner, more vicious" form of punk rock, how does job for a cowboy, black my heart, dr.aculla sound anything like punk? and the 80's hardcore, true hardcore, like black flag and minor threat were true hardcore. this 2000's hardcore with the exception of a few boston bands are a ****ing disgrace and a joke. it isnt hardcore, its ****ing bull****.

I agree that modern "hardcore" is very different from hardcore punk, but you shouldn't come into this forum and talk trash about the entire genre. By the way, I'm not a regular in this forum, nor am I a fan of modern hardcore. I just clicked on this thread on the front page.

STABxYOU

10-06-2007, 06:59 PM

Shh Joopy, don't disturb him while he's got his head in his arse.

DiamondOfBlood

10-07-2007, 06:06 PM

my question is why people seem to hate waking the cadaver so much..

technicolour

10-07-2007, 06:11 PM

my question is why people seem to hate waking the cadaver so much..

Cause they're trend hoppers with pig squeels only for vocals, and they're music is pretty boring/uninspired.

And kids think they're amazing, and sometimes think they're amazing grindcore, or that they're the only gore band out there..

DiamondOfBlood

10-07-2007, 06:14 PM

Cause they're trend hoppers with pig squeels only for vocals, and they're music is pretty boring/uninspired.

And kids think they're amazing, and sometimes think they're amazing grindcore, or that they're the only gore band out there..

well thank you for the educated answer..thats all i wanted to know really..(no sarcasm if it feels like there is)

nayleD1337

10-07-2007, 08:40 PM

i like the cadaver, but i do agree with technicolor, and they are far from amazing.

technicolour

10-07-2007, 09:28 PM

well thank you for the educated answer..thats all i wanted to know really..(no sarcasm if it feels like there is)

You're welcome. Main reason I said what I said, was because I just had this experience where I was talking to someone who was starting a band and needed a bass player. I heard they were playing grindcore/death metal, or w/e so I wanted to try out.

Basically we started talking about grindcore and he brought up Waking the cadaver..and then I realized this person probably never listened to Napalm death, or Regurgitate..so that sucked for me.

nayleD1337

10-07-2007, 09:34 PM

^^ +5 cool points and a friend request from little ol' me =]

aggiefan33

10-07-2007, 09:39 PM

Basically we started talking about grindcore and he brought up Waking the cadaver..and then I realized this person probably never listened to Napalm death, or Regurgitate..so that sucked for me.
Shame :(

STABxYOU

10-07-2007, 10:31 PM

^ It could be worse, the last time I tried to start an emo band I got kids asking why the stuff I had worked on didn't sound like MCR. And they didn't know who Saetia were. And me without an icepick. :(

aggiefan33

10-07-2007, 10:34 PM

^ It could be worse, the last time I tried to start an emo band I got kids asking why the stuff I had worked on didn't sound like MCR. And they didn't know who Saetia were. And me without an icepick. :(
Oh man. I wouldn't dream of starting any kind of emo band around here.

Death to false grindcore. I don't care if you like it or not, if it's not grindcore, don't call it that.

DiamondOfBlood

10-08-2007, 09:02 AM

You're welcome. Main reason I said what I said, was because I just had this experience where I was talking to someone who was starting a band and needed a bass player. I heard they were playing grindcore/death metal, or w/e so I wanted to try out.

Basically we started talking about grindcore and he brought up Waking the cadaver..and then I realized this person probably never listened to Napalm death, or Regurgitate..so that sucked for me.

yeah i really hate when some people slam around a horrible bands name..everybody in my highschool practically LOVES mcr..for example..this one fag emo kid made a joke about that "teenagers" song..and Im like "that was from that gay MCR song" and he's like "no **** its my favorite band"...commom sense right? jesus..

all he seems to talk about are his girl pants and how he hates his mom for trying to throw them away...and he thinks he's big **** because he makes jokes about freshmen..seriously..get a life man

stereotypes are a real plus when it comes to having little knowledge of music

guitarwannabe16

10-08-2007, 03:05 PM

The only grindcore nowadays is Anapparatus...
Anapparatus is grind?

SilentSpectacle

10-08-2007, 03:07 PM

Anapparatus is grind?
Demos and bit of the self-titled.

guitarwannabe16

10-08-2007, 03:11 PM

Is it possible for you to send me the self titled, or is your computer still jacked up? I have one of their releases and its pretty good but Im not sure which one its called

SilentSpectacle

10-08-2007, 03:14 PM

My diskdrive doesn't work, so all my music (at least half of it which is in the form of cd's/vinyl) can't be ripped to my computer.

aperfectshot176

10-08-2007, 10:50 PM

Most of us think that too. When we say hardcore, we don't mean metalcore, we are talking about hardcore punk.
And there are band around today that still play faster, angrier, heavier, punk rock and call it hardcore.
ill level with you, hardcore is suppossed to be faster heavier angrier punk rock, but with that being said this new hardcore and from what ive seen this forum doesnt talk about hardcore. it talk about what most people call hardcore these days, or at least where i live, metalcore and relating ****, which is ****. i wasnt insulting hardcore punk, i was assulting what now is the common phrase for hardcore. and where i started to begin with was grindcore, which i still dnt think is music, its still **** to me.

yeah but im just pissing people off which is another thing i like doing so why stop

guitarwannabe16

10-08-2007, 11:42 PM

Bannination my friend. And pretty soon people will just stop posting to your replies.

DiamondOfBlood

10-09-2007, 09:48 AM

some bands around call themselves straight hardcore that dont sound like "hardcore" at all, like bury your dead..I hear like..no punk in that..i wonder where they get that from?..the word hardcore is generally abused alot i can agree with that at least