Sarah Palin said she is joining the ranks for Mark Levin and Sean Hannity to endorse Orrin Hatch for Senate in Utah, which will undoubtedly cause some friction for those who are fighting so hard to defeat him in Utah:

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Stoneyjack

Well, in an episode of “Sarah Palin’s Alaska”, Chuck Heath demonstrates one of the family hobbies–discovering fossils hidden in rocks. Maybe petrified old Orrin makes Sarah wax nostalgic.

He will help make the conservative voice stronger in the next Senate. It helps to have a few old guys to show the new ones how to get things right.

bbitter

I don’t know what game Sarah is playing, and why she is going with the definition of ‘establishment’ which has railed against the TEA party and literally threw a fit after he had to actually face a primary vote -gasp!-, but it doesn’t make sense to me.

Hatch has been good for Utah and the nation, yes. But lately… well… most of his good stuff was 18 years ago. Hatch is about as out of touch as they come. Refusing to debate, refusing to meet with the press in any unscripted capacity, furious that he has to win a primary, claiming he is too busy when the senate is not in session, and ripping on the TEA party… This guy is incredibly out of touch, and I don’t know what he thinks he is going to do with this ‘last term’. He refuses debates because he is no where near as conservative as his ACU rating purports, nor does he stand where people think he does, and he knows that if he opens his mouth, everyone will find out.

What is with the career politician and his final term which attracts Sarah Palin? I have no clue. Perhaps it is nostalgia… I hope it is. I would hate to think it has anything to do with her network contracts and Hatch’s dogmatic drive to regulate the internet and literally bow to the every whim of the RIAA and MPAA. Hatch has introduced internet regulatory bills among other things which make me call BS on his ACU ‘conservative rating’.

This doesn’t pass the smell test. Something is up.

http://profile.yahoo.com/SCFBNDYIMPS6Q7VE4LGUIJRSXY Jack

Well , read her note about the endorsement and you know why she endorsed Hatch .

“As President Reagan said, Orrin is “Mr. Balanced Budget.” Long before the issue of debt was on the forefront of Americans’ minds, Orrin Hatch knew our government would face insolvency if we did not get our budget under control. He sponsored or co-sponsored a Balanced Budget Amendment 17 times, and he voted in favor of a

Balanced Budget Amendment at least 9 other times. We know he will use his seniority and influence to dissuade politicians from continuing to raise the debt ceiling without any plan to balance the budget and end these dangerously unsustainable deficits.

Orrin Hatch voted against Obamacare and has pledged to repeal it. While we’re on the topic of Obamacare, which is currently before the Supreme Court, keep in mind that the Supreme Court would not look the way it does today if it were not for Orrin Hatch fighting for conservative nominees on the bench – from Clarence Thomas to John Roberts and Samuel Alito. Unlike other Republican Senators who are up for reelection this year, Orrin voted against both of President Obama’s nominees, Kagan and Sotomayor. And unlike some others, Orrin has gone out of his way to embrace the Tea Party movement.

For the past two years, Orrin has received a 100 percent rating from the American Conservative Union. He’s staunchly pro-life – receiving a 100 percent rating from the National Right To Life Committee. The NRA has given him an A+ rating. Club for Growth listed him as one of the most conservative U.S. Senators and gave him a 99 percent rating.”—-Sarah Palin

Voting against Obamacare is recent. Voting against Obama’s liberal judges-recent.

jorous

well said bbitter. i have no problem with anyone voting for the for the RIAA/MPAA bill.
but, as he himself said…i have copywritten songs and i want my songs protected. i agree, all songs should be protected, but since he made it personal he should not have voted at all for that reason. if he kept his mouth shut and voted, so be it.
i respect Sara, Hannity and of course Mark Levine; but on this, i cant stand with them. i agree with everything that bbitter said. on a note….if the Rep party loses again. we should a conservative/constitutional party and do away with the Rep party.
most of these people are RHINO, and Sara, im sorry to say that she is starting to sound like one. i would like to see pure conservatives who stand by the constitution 100%, now wavering, Sara is wavering. i hope that in Tampa, we get a Gingrick/Santorum ticked. and we should fight for them ‘tooth and nail’. if the voters still vote for the Progressive Dems again, proving their ‘stupidity’, this great country is going down and it will be too late. its now or never. there is no turning back.
GOD BLESS AMERICA

http://profile.yahoo.com/PQ4JSCJFJRJM2VYWDKVYXSZLPY Tim

Santorum is a big government Republican. . He is only socially conservative not fiscally.

He also dissed the Tea Party on more than one occasion .

Rick Santorum On Small Government

Galatiansch2vs20

He had fiscal plans for tax rates the same as Reagan implemented years ago and a goal of cutting the debt each year. I’d be pleased if it were even possible to get a Santorum/Gingrich ticket versus the presumptive nominee we currently have. However, I don’t see it as happening with the rules in place.

bbitter

I do not infringe copyrights, nor do I care to stop those who want to secure them: I’m a writer myself and depend on that revenue for my future.

However, I am not blind to the fact that the only sector of the economy that is truly free, the only sector that is still allowing small business to bloom, the only thing allowing the economy to grow, is the unregulated internet.

Any regulation of the internet opens the door. The FCC has already tried to overstep their bounds in regulating speech and broadcast rights on the internet and the feds are already shutting down sites with the little regulatory control they’ve expanded to cover it… when the government is trying to kick the door open for regulation, do you invite them in, or do you hold the line?

I am not willing to let the only truly free market left become regulated and die. That’s why I care.

T4Ut

“What is with the career politician and his final term which attracts Sarah Palin?”

– Excellent question bbitter.

What is it with Sarah and these career politicians like McCain and Hatch?

35+ YEARS IN OFFICE!!! This is just Wrong!

How long did Washington serve? Is Hatch better than him?

D.C. is the most corrupt place on earth. You don’t stay there that long without without paying the piper (or losing your soul), just ask Hatch’s good buddy Ted Kennedy. Oh, sorry you can’t. He’s dead Jim. Died in office, just like Hatch wants to do. Cling to the power as long as possible. Hatch has had a looooooooong time to cultivate / buy friendships with many of these other establishment types. He is a classic tax and spend republican.

You should hear the ads he’s running here; ‘If you don’t vote for me Hill Air Force Base will be thrown over the cliff and everyone will be unemplyed’. It’s the same scare tactics the chosen one uses.

In other words ‘he’s been bringing home the bacon for ever’. I love bacon as much as the next man, but not at the taxpayers expense.

“Hatch has been good for Utah and the nation, yes. But lately… well… most of his good stuff was 18 years ago.” Another excellent point.

But lately… Mike Lee the only senator with two votes. Why?

Hatch is terrified he’ll go the same way as his other lifetime politician friend Bob Bennett.

And He should!

Dan Lillinquist is the tea party candidate here, not Hatch. Not complicated.

bbitter

I am in Utah as well and I know the fear tactics he is using, plus his refusal to face the people in an open, unscripted debate.

He’s hiding something. No question about it, and I have no trust in him. None. He’s become rich in office over the past three and a half decades, and his salary certainly doesn’t justify half of that. I’m sorry, he’s got to go. He’s DC through and through at this point. He served well back in the day, but he’s no longer the man that was elected, and it shows.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1236140974 Kimberly Petrich

Did you bother to read what Gov. Palin wrote about her endorsement? She wrote seven short paragraphs. It seems pretty straight forward to me. I don’t agree with her, but I am not “confused” by it at all because she herself explains her thinking quite clearly. No speculation or hysteria needed. If you don’t agree, you don’t agree. Okay.

bbitter

Yes I did. I didn’t want to bring it up. Why? because it shows that Sarah Palin is not in sync with her original drives, and certainly not with what is going on in Utah. I don’t want to lessen my opinion of her. Thanks for bringing it up. Case in point:
“And unlike some others, Orrin has gone out of his way to embrace the Tea Party movement.”

This is a flat-out lie. Either someone told her to do this or she has no clue. I’d rather that she doesn’t have a clue than the specter that she is now a puppet.

That is unless Palin has missed the two years worth of spite and derision that Hatch has spewed at the TEA Party movement, or is ignorant that the TEA Party has not endorsed him as the most conservative candidate in this race? You were aware, I assume, that the TEA Party is behind his opponent? I’m guessing it is because Orrin has truly embraced them, right? Forget the super-nasty rant Orin directed at Freedom Works when he learned he had to actually go to voters at the primary?

Sarah is making the argument that since Orin did good things twenty-plus years ago, he is the guy now. Honestly, have you changed over the last two decades? The last two years is because he wants to keep his seat, there is no proof it is a concrete change which will not be reverted as soon as Hatch is a lame-duck senator in a last term, the same amount of ‘conviction’ or record we have with his opponent. Did you expect Sarah Palin to come out with the ‘career politician’ argument supporting an incumbent in response to a more conservative challenger?

Plainly put, Hatch is not the most conservative in this race, and the idea that we have to have a career politician to enact a balanced budget is insane. A balanced budget is a facet of other campaigns as well you know, and the budget does not hinge on Hatch: if there is enough support for one with him, there will be enough support for one with a more conservative member in his place. His ‘reserved’ seat on the finance committee is either ensured by backdoor deals or is not a sure thing at all… which was what we in Utah were sold the last time he was up for re-election… I won’t be duped twice. Besides, if Hatch has as much power as he claims, why hasn’t this happened in the past 30 years?

So… why am I “confused” at Sarah’s endorsement? Because it doesn’t make sense for the reasons she is stating, that’s why. I thought I’d made that clear.

Yes, I disagree. But I prefer to explain myself and be understood.

heshtesh

I’ve always kind of liked Orrin Hatch but i have to admit i wanted to see the other guy win.Can’t say i’m upset about Sarahs endorsement, just indifferent i guess.

T4Ut

Hatch has also been endorsed by Arlen Spector. Need I say more.

actionsspeaklouder

Spector and Hatch – two of a kind. They think they “deserve” the seat. They do not.

JRD1

Hatch is responsible for getting Scalia, Roberts, Alito, and Clarence Thomas on the bench. That is huge!

That’s good enough for me!

Besides the competition works at Bain, that stinks!

http://twitter.com/shelly99032 Shelly Sands

This is not a surprise she’s endorsed him before.

rightklik

If Liljenquist were a woman he might have gotten Palin’s endorsement.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1236140974 Kimberly Petrich

Oh get over it.

MJScanlonOH

I am disappointed in her endorsement. We need to get rid of the old guard and get staunch, give no quarter conservatives into office.

bucky321

sometimes people disagree

lanahi

Hatch is a staunch conservative, which is unusual for one of the old guys to be.

Donya G

Mr. Orin Hatch is not my cup of tea, I would like the other guy to win.

c4pfan

I hope you put up the more important part of the interview with the $20 million dollars of tax payer money going out to pimp Obamacare!

Levin has repeatedly endorsed Hatch on his show. Hannity and Hatch are friends, but i’ve never heard him endorse Hatch.

http://profile.yahoo.com/ZYYWO57TWMKZI3VWLSSYMGGINY Jack

Why?

“As President Reagan said, Orrin is “Mr. Balanced Budget.” Long before the issue of debt was on the forefront of Americans’ minds, Orrin Hatch knew our government would face insolvency if we did not get our budget under control. He sponsored or co-sponsored a Balanced Budget Amendment 17 times, and he voted in favor of a
Balanced Budget Amendment at least 9 other times. We know he will use his seniority and influence to dissuade politicians from continuing to raise the debt ceiling without any plan to balance the budget and end these dangerously unsustainable deficits.

Orrin Hatch voted against Obamacare and has pledged to repeal it. While we’re on the topic of Obamacare, which is currently before the Supreme Court, keep in mind that the Supreme Court would not look the way it does today if it were not for Orrin Hatch fighting for conservative nominees on the bench – from Clarence Thomas to John Roberts and Samuel Alito. Unlike other Republican Senators who are up for reelection this year, Orrin voted against both of President Obama’s nominees, Kagan and Sotomayor. And unlike some others, Orrin has gone out of his way to embrace the Tea Party movement.

For the past two years, Orrin has received a 100 percent rating from the American Conservative Union. He’s staunchly pro-life – receiving a 100 percent rating from the National Right To Life Committee. The NRA has given him an A+ rating. Club for Growth listed him as one of the most conservative U.S. Senators and gave him a 99 percent rating.”—-Sarah Palin

Here is why: “For the past two years, Orrin has received a 100 percent rating from the American Conservative Union. He’s staunchly pro-life – receiving a 100 percent rating from the National Right To Life Committee. The NRA has given him an A+ rating. Club for Growth listed him as one of the most conservative U.S. Senators and gave him a 99 percent rating.

I join other conservatives like Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, and Tea Party leaders like Sal Russo in encouraging Utah voters to return Orrin Hatch to the U.S. Senate. Since Mark Levin has always got a way with words, read what he recently told Senator Hatch: “I feel that you would be… a terrific elder statesman to a lot of these other young guys who I’m going to be pushing in these other states.” I’m with Mark. That’s spot on.

We need Orrin’s conservative Reagan-like leadership – and our new crop of conservative senators Richard Mourdock, Deb Fischer, and Ted Cruz might need some friendly advice finding their way around the Senate.”

– Sarah Palin

http://twitter.com/shelly99032 Shelly Sands

Hatch has done some really good things in the past but I think his time has come for him to retire. I do like his work on pushing for a balanced budget amendment though.

bucky321

he will win unless he retires which he won’t

StrangernFiction

Hatch’s average lifetime NTU rating (72) is only 2 points better than Lugar’s (70). Utah needs to do better than that.

Good point. In all fairness though, the careers of Hatch and Lugar began before implementation of the 3 point shot.

http://twitter.com/BombsAndDollars Bombs And Dollars

That puts him at 72% conservative, which means he is conservative the vast majority of the time, such as when he is trying to repeal Obamacare or pass a balanced budget amendment.

blueniner

Hatch great on judges, Thomas, Alito,Roberts…..voted against Sotemayer and Kagen.

ApplePie101

Also to his credit, he was one of the very few senators who voted against the debt ceiling increase last year.

CPAguy

That was a pure political move, however. Hard to respect that.

ApplePie101

When it comes to economic policy, I respect someone who votes the right way for the wrong reason more than someone who votes the wrong way with a lot of good intentions and excuses afterward. But it’s not my state, so I’m just speaking as a spectator.

badbadlibs

Why?????

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1236140974 Kimberly Petrich

Here is WHY!!: “For the past two years, Orrin has received a 100 percent rating from the American Conservative Union. He’s staunchly pro-life – receiving a 100 percent rating from the National Right To Life Committee. The NRA has given him an A+ rating. Club for Growth listed him as one of the most conservative U.S. Senators and gave him a 99 percent rating.

I join other conservatives like Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, and Tea Party leaders like Sal Russo in encouraging Utah voters to return Orrin Hatch to the U.S. Senate. Since Mark Levin has always got a way with words, read what he recently told Senator Hatch: “I feel that you would be… a terrific elder statesman to a lot of these other young guys who I’m going to be pushing in these other states.” I’m with Mark. That’s spot on.

We need Orrin’s conservative Reagan-like leadership – and our new crop of conservative senators Richard Mourdock, Deb Fischer, and Ted Cruz might need some friendly advice finding their way around the Senate.”

– Sarah Palin

NoToTyrants

As much as admire Governor Palin, I disagree with this endorsement. Mark Levin and Hannity are off base on this one as well. Their endorsement of Hatch will come back to bite them in the derriere. Once safely back in office for another 6 year term, considering his age, probably his last, Hatch will return to his RINO ways.

We need to send the old guard a clear message; you have performed abysmally, you have nearly if not completely destroyed our republic, and your time is up. We shouldn’t encourage their recklessness and elitist behavior with re-election. New blood, new enthusiasm, and a new invigorated spirit is needed for the daunting task ahead.

lanahi

100% conservative rating for the past few years…hardly a RINO.

wodiej

So your political skills are better than Gov. Sarah Palin, Mark Levin and Sean Hannity…WOW….when does your TV show start? Do you have some guest spots coming up so everyone can hear about your “expert” opinion?

redware

Gee, I thought sites like this were meant to showcase people’s opinions,And just because you happen to be a “political commentator” doesn’t make you infallible.Maybe you should develop some ideas of your own instead of parrotting the political class.

wodiej

People are allowed to share their opinion and I shared mine and so did you. What’s the problem? I have plenty of ideas and so do not need to “parrot” anyone.

T4Ut

“I shared mine”

No you didn’t. You made fun of some one elses.

“I have plenty of ideas and so do not need to “parrot” anyone.”

No you don’t, because ridicule is all you have.

Let’s here your “expert” opinion. put up or shut up.

NoToTyrants is exactly right “Their endorsement of Hatch will come back to bite them in the derriere.” Hatch is a lifetime politician who’s tax and spend ways, like those of his corrupt old dead friend Ted Kennedy, have aided in destroying our republic. 35 years is too long.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MVB7D2KTCEW6NQCZ3JQMOHPFOU V.L.

And your opinion is? …that NoToTyrants should get his own show?

StrangernFiction

Everyone makes mistakes, and that includes Mark Levin.

serfer62

Hatch gave us the 3 hardcore Kommiecrats to the Supremes.
This is not a good endorsement

sybilll

~Sigh. There must be something they know that we don’t. I remember vividly Hatch ragging on the Tea Party, then jumping on the bandwagon when he realized it was not going away. If I recall correctly, it unfolded in a live chat for some event, right here on TRS.

rrpjr

I agree — something else going on here.

In any case, this won’t go over well. Hatch’s time has come and gone.

John_Frank

RS, thanks for posting the video of this interview.

While the Hatch endorsement makes news, the whole interview is worth listening too.

Speaking of the Hatch endorsement, Sarah Palin sets out her reasons in this post to Sarahpac.com:

Before people jump all over Palin for this endorsement, folks will want to read her reasons and then decide accordingly.

Palin indicated her support for Orin Hatch last year, so this formal endorsement should come as no surprise.

P.S. Mark Levin has also endorsed Orin Hatch.

Barry Goldwater

John Frank, since you’re posting links to all sorts of pro-Hatch articles, I’ll toss one in the ring that seriously disturbs me. Much more research has to be done on Hatch re his past record in voting & on the issues. I would take any endorsement by anyone with a grain of salt, as endorsers may have personal agendas at stake. Everyone should do the research, think over the issues, make up their own minds. That said, I’ll start off folks with one link:

After you read it, look around & see how it applies in the 2012 campaign, the Progressive RINO agenda(s), the MSM, in the issues selected by the GOP establishment, and last but not least a One World Gov’t. Think for yourself always…

http://twitter.com/BombsAndDollars Bombs And Dollars

Orrin Hatch for Senate. Defeat the liberals who choose to side against Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Sean Hannity and the vast majority of the American people who want to repeal Obamacare.

“Orrin Hatch voted against Obamacare and has pledged to repeal it. While we’re on the topic of Obamacare, which is currently before the Supreme Court, keep in mind that the Supreme Court would not look the way it does today if it were not for Orrin Hatch fighting for conservative nominees on the bench – from Clarence Thomas to John Roberts and Samuel Alito. Unlike other Republican Senators who are up for reelection this year, Orrin voted against both of President Obama’s nominees, Kagan and Sotomayor. And unlike some others, Orrin has gone out of his way to embrace the Tea Party movement.

For the past two years, Orrin has received a 100 percent rating from the American Conservative Union. He’s staunchly pro-life – receiving a 100 percent rating from the National Right To Life Committee. The NRA has given him an A+ rating. Club for Growth listed him as one of the most conservative U.S. Senators and gave him a 99 percent rating.”——Sarah Palin

Jack, you’ve posted this several times… but the fact is that none of what Orrin brings, which we value, things we currently want, are more conservative or even ‘better’ than his opponent.

The question isn’t “is Orrin Hatch considered “conservative” or has he ever done good things”… the question is “Is Orrin Hatch the best person to represent us right now?”

After looking at the two of them, IMO, I have a humble answer:
NO!

wodiej

But he does have experience and newly elected Tea Party members of congress should have someone there to help guide them. We sure can’t count on many that are there.

T4Ut

You mean like Mike Lee? Another “newly elected Tea Party” member

bbitter

I understand your sentiment, and I kind of agree… however, the thing I want guiding new “TEA Party” elected officials and members is NOT a career politician who is furious that he has to face his own constituents and justify his re-election, but the Constitution. Call me crazy.

That’s the entire argument with Hatch. This is a true contest between two types of conservatives, one is more conservative than the other. I believe that the more conservative one is NOT the incumbent. So does the TEA Party.

Sarah Palin and Mark Lavin both believe that the career politician is best. I was under the impression that they were against the party-machine problem, but here they are, arguing that a career politician is what is needed, and we’re being fed fear that what we want will not happen if he isn’t elected. I don’t buy it. I am in Utah, and I will not wait another term to get rid of the career politician.

It’s third down, last of the fourth quarter, and we’ve got a capable man wide open in the end-zone while the “star” receiver is triple-covered, and is parked on the five yard line. You can risk an interception or drop a knee and pin your hopes on fourth down, but I’m passing to the open man.

rjcylon

Well, looks like Orrin Hatch can breathe easy.

T4Ut

Keep dreaming

K-Bob

Oy. Michelle Malkin is not happy about this. I think I’m also a little surprised, though Sarah Palin is probably a regular listener to Mark Levin’s broadcast, having made many decisions that are similar to Mark’s over the last few years. So that puts a little pressure on her to think hard about this endorsement.

FreedomWorks is the major Tea Party group endorsing Hatch’s opponent Dan Liljenquist. While searching around, i saw that FreedomWorks has a few negative stories regarding Utah floating around. The headlines I saw make it look like Liljenquist really does not have a lot of support from the right.

http://twitter.com/ARTHUR_SWE ARTHUR STEINBERG

If GOV. PALIN see that some values left of Orrin Hatch in the Senate, go for it.

She have awesome hunter instincts, and know better what are helping in this RINO hunting season 2012

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JP3NDQJA5LPF5BOEPOQ5HHSBEY Ghost

Hatch is not a RINO, rather he is a re-election conservative. He’s no different from McCain in that respect; suddenly moving further to the Right a year or two before his (probably) last election. The big problem is he has become a senator from Washington DC instead of Utah. He invests all of his energy into creating more power for the Federal government and himself. The Country needs less of that not more.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GDJGRV2MMCB6P2ZYTUZW6BHFVA Richard

Even Sarah Palin can be bought off. We are all doomed. Look up all the spending and regulations that this RINO has voted on during his long CAREER. Shame on Sarah and Mark. I would expect this from Hannity.

wodiej

Gov.Palin was not bought off.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1236140974 Kimberly Petrich

Just because someone disagrees with you doesn’t mean they were “bought off” or compromised in some other way. Palin gave a clear accounting of her reasons. I disagree, its that simple. I don’t agree with her, that doesn’t mean I have to attribute some kind of shadowy motives to her, I just don’t agree. Admittedly, it is a little of a shock to me, because I do not disagree with her very often, but it does happen sometimes.

wodiej

This was a rational call by Gov. Palin. Besides Hatch voting to repeal Obamacare, he also voted for conservative supreme court nominees and against the liberal ones like Sotomayer. He has a 100 lifetime conservative rating. He has sponsored or co-sponsored a balanced budget amendment 17 times.

As Palin noted, a Reagan like conservative with experience will be a great mentor for the young Tea Party candidates coming to congress for the first time. He can help show them the ropes. Some apparently did not read Miss Sarah’s SarahPac message.

rightklik

Every single Republican in Congress has voted against Obamacare. Voting against Obamacare is no mark of distinction.

“I am grateful for the support of Sarah Palin as I continue to lead this fight. Mrs. Palin is highly respected by Utahans and the national conservative movement and I appreciate her influence to create a united front in confronting the issue of our national debt. It is an honor to have Sarah Palin’s backing for the balanced budget amendment and I will continue to use my time in the Senate to see it passed.” Orrin Hatch

Everyone has a right to their opinion. But do you want it to be an informed one or just blind or blank ideology? Use your noggin and be informed.

JoeMontana16

What gives? She endorsed Cruz for the Senate seat in my state of Texas also. He is horrible. I love Sarah but she is having a hell of a time here lately.

Coralchristie

I’d rather have Cruz over Dewhurst and Liljenquist over Hatch.

K-Bob

Cruz has a LOT of Tea Party folks supporting him. She’s smart as heck to back him. Anyone else will be toast in that race.

hramirez18

When you need to the bigs (Sarah and levin)one come to rescue if because you have some problems.We now who is Hatch , but we dont now who is Liljenquist.We dont have to much problems in the senate, the problems are in the house .

Rshill7

Folks have used various versions of the phrase “show them the the ropes” on this page. Of course that phrase comes from ye olde ships of sail that ruled the seas for hundred of years, including the HMV Victory commanded by England’s beloved Admiral Horatio Nelson who, though vistorious in the Battle of Trafalgar, was killed in the heat of that battle.

Anyway, showing the ropes. Teaching the newly pressed sailor which ropes do what with respect to the myriad mixture of sails and settings of such on a fighting ship of sail.

Why would we want a guy who has been part of the problem to mentor anyone? It’s the established railroaded wimps, run down and run over hundreds of times that you want to teach the new folks? You want their bad habits to actually be inculcated into the new blood?

If they need directions to various senate chambers or facilities, that’s one thing, but we need do not need lessons on compromise, bending over, or getting run over OK? The Republicans have “niced” themselves and us into a fiscal nightmare we may never awake from. We need a new crew and some new ropes, ok?!

It’s time for some sort of Hatch to open up underneath this guy so he can fall through. We do not need him to show anyone the ropes. We need to show him the door. We need to open that door, and kick him through it. In other words, we should take out his main mast with well-placed cannon fire, Blast the heck out of his stern, strike his colors, take his ship as a prize and set him and his subordinate officers adrift on a dinghy in the doldrums.

“God save the Queen”

Sandra123456

Bingo. “Experience,” “Show them the ropes.” What say?

The only experience our “electeds” need is that of having lived in the real world, and going back there from time to time.

A good pianist, a great doctor, a skilled carpenter, all need years of past experience, practicing and learning their craft to become the best at it.

A Senator needs common sense and sobriety in thinking to be good, and one pretty much is born with those skills. Experience is not needed.

Hatch has been a Senator for 35 years. Too long. Time for the Ted Kennedy buddy to go.

The new guy/gal will quickly learn where their office is, and where the bathrooms are. They will quickly become experienced at navigating Washington, DC.

StrangernFiction

Scratch many of these “staunch conservatives” and you find out they aren’t all that staunch.

actionsspeaklouder

Well said matey. I disagree with Palin on this. Hatch needs to go. Sarah – you’re playing crony politics and I don’t like it one bit. I was disgusted with Hatch for acting so very elitist at having to face a primary challenger. He was insulted – and that behavior alone should tell the good people of Utah that Hatch has been there far too long. Congressional and Senatorial seats were not meant to be lifetime careers, although many of our entrenched politicians have made it so. We need to make it NOT SO. Term limits.

Replace the old ropes with new ones and let the newbies learn on their own. Don’t let the old ropes corrupt what could be smooth sailing for America’s future.

Say goodnight Orrin.

http://www.noneedforastinkingwebsite.com dow daytrader

does Sarah stand by Hatch’s terrible comments about the Tea Party in Utah??

Hatch also refuses to debate Liljenquist in any major venue

Hatch cosponsored horrible legislation with Teddy Drown ’em Kennedy

Hatch is big government, and has voted for many communists and socialists on our Courts.

another intellectual heavyweight from C4palin.com whose entire audience is unable to reply with facts and reason to specific policies and actions by Palin that further socialism and anti-capitalism. She’s not all bad and have never said as much, but she’s not a Tea Party person anymore.

Still waiting for that Bus Tour to announce new stops!

John_Frank

Ah … the usual nonsense from someone who does not have a clue.

People need to keep in mind the role of the Senate Finance Committee.

If Republicans win control of the Senate, Orrin Hatch will be the Chair.

Want a balanced budget?

Want tax reform?

Want entitlement reform?

These are matters that Orrin Hatch has vowed to address and make happen.

As to the charge about Hatch refusing to debate Liljenquist?

Classic attack line, but the facts are they had two debates prior to the April state party convention. They have appeared in numerous other joint capacities and Hatch has agreed to a radio debate.

as my earlier link states, Hatch WILL NOT agree to a televised debate…he does not believe in giving the Tea Party principles a fair shake. Hatch received an endorsement by Arlen Specter…Palin and Specter..yeah, you go defend that Palin Supporters!

Her endorsement of McCain for re-election was bad enuff, (there was not a viable candidate running against McCain) but NOW there is a REAL JOB CREATOR and Tea Party candidate that many are united behind…and what does Palin do???

Go for the Establishment Candidate who is also endorsed by turncoat Specter.

Palin is now on the downside of the Bell Curve..she has helped many good people get elected BUT this one will be a watershed moment against her being considered a Tea Party politico..

cudaforever

“BUT this one will be a watershed moment”
This is the most asinine comment ever…

cudaforever

“BUT this one will be a watershed moment”
This is the most asinine comment ever…

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Hatch voted for TARP

Hatch voted for creation of Edukashun Dept

Hatch was for Bernanke, Ruth Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer, two of the most Far Left Justices.

Did you see my freedomworks link earlier? Overwhelming evidence Hatch is not acting in the best interests of freedom loving Americans. Epic Fail by anyone that endorses Hatch.

John_Frank

LOL.

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so YOU and LEVIN both

support candidates that vote for TARP, socialized medicine and federalization of local schools vs supporting candidates that DON’T support those big government actions…got it!

Not one Palin supporter can congently state in their own words a rebuttal that is factual to my specific issues that Hatch AND NOW PALIN supports.

K-Bob

No one is going to “rebut” your steaming pile of troll nonsense.

Barry_Rasmussen

I guess Mark Levin must also be an idiot:

Hawaii sends Arizona verification of Obama’s birth

As Levin urges, people need to look at the entirety of Hatch’s record.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MVB7D2KTCEW6NQCZ3JQMOHPFOU V.L.

If Republican win control of the Senate and Liljenquist wins the Utah senate seat, Sen Mike Crapo of Idaho would become a chairman of the precious Senate Finance Committee. Crapo has more conservative record than Hatch.
Yes, I want entitlement reform and want to start with Hatch feeling that he’s entitled to the seat.

K-Bob

If you’re just here to troll idiotic claims like that, then you won’t last long.

cudaforever

Is she’s so YESTERDAY why are you here today ? Get Lost !!

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Hatch voted for TARP

Hatch voted for creation of Edukashun Dept

Hatch was for Bernanke, Ruth Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer, two of the most Far Left Justices.

These “conservative” ratings people are mentioning obviously mean very little, when you consider Hatch voted for the Repeal the Fourth Amendment Act (AKA the “Patriot” Act), the Detain American Citizens Indefinitely Without Trial Act (AKA NDAA) and the Expansion of Unfunded Socialized Medicine Act (AKA Medicare Part D).

I could go on, but I won’t. Why bother? Hannity, Levin, Palin…WTF?

StrangernFiction

The most popular is the ACU rating, and Hatch has a lifetime ACU rating of 90. But this is very misleading. Consider the following lifetime ratings:

Mitch McConnell – 90
Lindsey Graham – 89
Kay Bailey Hutchison – 90

Are these three staunch conservatives? Would you want them representing a state as red as Utah?

The National Taxpayers Union rating is a much better gauge of a congress member’s fiscal conservatism, as it looks at all votes related to fiscal matters, as opposed to the ACU rating which looks at just 20 votes across the entire spectrum of issues.

She endorsed McCain also. She repays political debts. Who knows what relationship she has with Hatch. She is loyal to a fault

StrangernFiction

Endorsing McCain was also a mistake. Why would a conservative ever be indebted to a statist?

K-Bob

No, it most definitely was not a mistake. People floating that concept are looking more and more ridiculous every time it’s trotted out. By now, even Obama’s kids (and maybe the dog, too) understand why Palin did the right thing in supporting the person who brought her to the national spotlight.

anneinarkansas

I seldom disagree with Sarah but I do on this one…he has been in there too long and compromised too many times.

marketcomp

I certainly understand your point. It is so diffcult when my three favorite people, Mark Levin, Sarah Palin, and Michelle Maulkin disagree. But I absolutely have to side with Michelle Maulkin on this one. The only reason to side with Mark or Gov. Palin is becasue I am not sure who the next person is in line for the top position on bubget committee. If it is a RINO that who would be far worse than Orrin Hatch? Or it is somone like Ron Johnson who understands budgets and business and profit and loss and cannot be swayed by Washingon establishment and politics once they are there as Orrin Hatch appears to have done then I am fine with that. I have always liked Orrin Hatch but to be relevant Sen. Hatch should have been a Constitutional conservative and that is the issue. So I have to agree with Michelle Maulkin on this and if Sen. Hatch returns I hope he learns a lesson and operate conservatively.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MVB7D2KTCEW6NQCZ3JQMOHPFOU V.L.

The next person in line is Sen. Mike Crapo of Idaho. Interestinly, he’s a Brigham Young University graduate.

marketcomp

Thank you, V.L.! I think its time for a change! I do think its interesting that he is a Brigham Young grad though!

http://www.davemacleod.net/ dmacleo

going to have to respectfully disagree with her here.

http://twitter.com/nestroyat64 Johann Streit

Why not?!

GetWhatYouPayFor

Loyalty is not a fault. How loyal were some of those who claimed to be Tea Party folks and got elected because she endorsed and campaigned with them? Rubio, Haley, Bachmann, and Perry come to mind. They all rolled over for Romney and the boys. Teams without the right mix of players never win. Is something up? Maybe, it’s just the recognition that this is a marathon and not a sprint. I have no less trust in this woman today, than I had yesterday. Has Freedom Works always been in her corner? I don’t think so!

IwjwI

RS, Please put up the whole interview. Thx.

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At least we have one sure bet on Mr Orrin Hatch, the bet we Americans lost on Obama, first thing is the letter O in his first name doesn’t stand for (O)bama, second thing, there is no (D) by his name that means dangerous dang wrong bunch in charge.

Mr Hatch is definitly not un-Ameican or a dark shadow subvert.
so short of a truly hard core Tea Party candidate run against Mr Hatch, theres not a lot to consider, Mr Hatch in 2011 did stand with the Tea Party, though a little late and he will be the Tea Party candidate by default.

If we Americans can not or will not trust the Tea Party Movement, Ms Palin, Levin, Hannity, Rush, and so others who have been in strong support of the Tea Party Movement in all of us working towards saving America for our families an their future, then who can we trust where do we go to be informed of the facts concerning the subverts of the Democrat party and the other leftist groups in charge of the media?

Liberty and Freedom is best protected by it’s citizens, and should never bet on hope and change that sounds more like dictatorial behavior.

Tea Party Movment
Vote anyone but obama! uhm! uhm! uhm!

mike morrison

cronyism at its worst…Hatch needs to go, along with about 30 other “republican” senators.

John_Frank

While some are going nuts (and frankly acting very immaturely) over Governor Palin’s endorsement of Orrin Hatch, (which should have come as no surprise, given what she said in August, 2011), she continues to fight for the constitution and liberty.

Sometimes, as Mr. Lee did in this tweet, it also helps to look at the big picture.

K-Bob

First, this is a warning. This is not the place for Ron Paul supporters to come bash Palin, and claim she’s some sort of flaming leftist. Get over yourselves. I don’t need to be doing “troll watch” duty just because some people are like Andrew Sullivan and can’t move on.

Think about the actual topic. This is about strategy for taking over the Senate in November.

Look, no one is making the case that Hatch hasn’t done some really dumb, totally non-conservative things in the past. Especially his trial balloon on changing the citizenship requirements of The Constitution in order to let “Arnold” run for President. Weird, eh?

But when you look at WHEN he’s done them, it’s usually been at a time when things were going alright (by and large) and he could play the game of trying-to-seem-relevant. CLUE: all politicians do this. All of them. Entertainers do it, media figures do it, artists do it. To stand out from the pack requires doing something that gets attention. Unfortunately some people do some really, really stupid things; like Colon Powell has done with his bizarre conversion to being an Obama sycophant.

But looking at Hatch’s record, he’s been conservative when it counts. Far more so than a guy like John McCain or Lindsey Graham. So I understand the reasons Palin and Levin have for staying with Hatch.

Besides, his opponent really isn’t gaining a lot of traction, and there are more important battles to be fought (meaning, “places where you should send your money”).

You all know I’m not really solidly behind Romney. Yet I’ve seen more and more people decide to hold their nose–AGAIN–and vote for him. (I’ve said I wouldn’t, but… I might.) But I just can’t see voting for Romney and throwing Hatch under the bus. If I had to choose between Hatch and Romney for President in November, I’d vote for Hatch faster than you can say something that doesn’t take very long to say.

Dukehoopsfan

Hatch is a 36 year member of the establishment. Enough is enough, it’s time to move on. He has pulled the wool (once again) over the eyes of this group of commentators.

K-Bob

Sure. Because we’re all so easily fooled and you aren’t.

http://twitter.com/ThatChristyChic Christy Waters

Sarah Palin officially throws her Tea Party creds under the bus, and proves she’s just like all the rest.

John_Frank

Right. Nonsense.

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I think that’s a complete exaggeration and overreaction. I don’t like Hatch, either, but I will admit he’s done good in his past. There are things he’s done (like try getting Congress into investigating college football) that I don’t like, though, and want him gone for. Palin’s looking into his record, and his ratio of good to bad is good enough for her. Nobody’s perfect, certainly not Hatch, and not Palin, though I would trust her over Hatch, any day. I don’t agree with her every position, just as I didn’t agree with Reagan’s, but I’d just as quickly vote for her for president, as I would Reagan. We’re not as satisfied with Hatch as she is; just take it at that, and stop trashing her, because you don’t agree with her decision. I like Michelle Malkin, too, and we both agree on Hatch, but I certainly don’t agree with her every position, nor believe she’s perfect in any way (except her looks).

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I’ll have to vigorously and vociferously disagree with Sarah the Great, on this one. I despise Booby Hatch, and hope he loses his job, sometime soon.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E4C65QOIQ4XH67F6MEHWTXGODY Alan

Orrin Hatch has served the state of Utah well. But, I do believe an infusion of some new blood in the Senate is needed.

marketcomp

As Mark said keep some elders around! You know I wasn’t sure until I heard Orrin Hatch in action and his defense of Clarence Thomas and Robert Bork. I believe we will have other Supreme Court picks and we certainly need Orrin Hatch’s leadership there an on the budgetary Committee. No one is perfect, and I am certainly not perfect and perhaps Sen. Hatch cast some votes that were really not conservative but he is no John McCain with his little gang of 7 or 8 or whatever. Sen. Hatch deserves to be Senator just on his defense of Conservative judges alone! I remember the Clarance Thomas hearing but I forgot about Sen. Hatch’s defense. It was indeed awesome and a learning experience. I was revited by the hearing and glued to my television the entire time. But Mark reminded all of us why Sen. Hatch’s experience is important. I apologize to Sen. Hatch for not remembering his role in this Great Republic.

marketcomp

As Mark said keep some elders around! You know I wasn’t sure until I heard Orrin Hatch in action and his defense of Clarence Thomas and Robert Bork. I believe we will have other Supreme Court picks and we certainly need Orrin Hatch’s leadership there an on the budgetary Committee. No one is perfect, and I am certainly not perfect and perhaps Sen. Hatch cast some votes that were really not conservative but he is no John McCain with his little gang of 7 or 8 or whatever. Sen. Hatch deserves to be Senator just on his defense of Conservative judges alone! I remember the Clarance Thomas hearing but I forgot about Sen. Hatch’s defense. It was indeed awesome and a learning experience. I was revited by the hearing and glued to my television the entire time. But Mark reminded all of us why Sen. Hatch’s experience is important. I apologize to Sen. Hatch for not remembering his role in this Great Republic.

John_Frank

In response to the false claims made earlier by those relying on FreedomWorks about the votes made by Senator Hatch:

Finally, Mark Levin, who previously endorsed Orrin Hatch in July, 2011 is spending a lot of time on his show this evening going through Hatch’s record, etc.

During the course of his show this evening he said:

“You think Sarah Palin came to her conclusion to support Orrin Hatch recklessly? No. Sometimes you have to do the right thing, and this is the right thing.”

– Mark Levin

I would encourage folks who want to learn more about the back story (including that Dick Armey, the head of Freedom Works is supportive of open borders) to listen to a replay of the show later this evening, if you are not listening live.

nkthgreek

Thanks, John. Sarah’s taking a lot of heat from folks who shoot first and and ask questions later. These responses are on many conservative web sites. C’mon people, do your homework.

John_Frank

People may also want to read this article to gain a better understanding of Liljenquist:

“He’s never labeled himself a tea party [candidate],” Holly Richardson, his campaign chairwoman who resigned her own position in the Utah state house to run his campaign, told TPM. “He has been labeled a tea party candidate, but in fact, he’s a reality-based candidate. He feels like the reality is: We’re out of money.”

“He’s not an extremist, he’s a realist,” Richardson said of Liljenquist. “The so-called more moderate or more mainstream wing of the Republican Party has come to Dan and said, ‘My gosh, you’re not crazy.”

John_Frank

In response to the false claims made earlier by those relying on FreedomWorks about the votes made by Senator Hatch:

Finally, Mark Levin, who previously endorsed Orrin Hatch in July, 2011 is spending a lot of time on his show this evening going through Hatch’s record, etc.

During the course of his show this evening he said:

“You think Sarah Palin came to her conclusion to support Orrin Hatch recklessly? No. Sometimes you have to do the right thing, and this is the right thing.”

– Mark Levin

I would encourage folks who want to learn more about the back story (including that Dick Armey, the head of Freedom Works is supportive of open borders) to listen to a replay of the show later this evening, if you are not listening live.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1448587815 Pamela Imdone Hogan

Sarah Palin is no longer Sarah Palin. She sold out. Why? I doubt we will ever know. Dont know how she sleeps at night.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1448587815 Pamela Imdone Hogan

Sarah Palin is no longer Sarah Palin. Dont know why but she Sold Out. Dont know how she sleeps at night. Shame On Her.

Pittakos

In 1977, when Senator Hatch first took office, our national debt was .7 trillion dollars. Today, it is 15 trillion dollars more. Perhaps it is time for a fresh outlook. He obviously hasn’t been effective in stopping the ever increasing debt. When he ran for office, he ran against Senator Frank Moss who had been in that office for 18 years. One of his main running points was that Moss had been there too long. He stated, “What do you call a Senator who’s served in office for 18 years? You call him home.” Senator Hatch has been there twice as long as Senator Moss was. It’s time to come home, Senator. Make way for some new blood.