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Motor specialists Haynes produce a manual for the 'unsinkable ship'

A Titanic task: Motor specialists Haynes produce a manual for the 'unsinkable ship'
Every bolt and rivet: Motor specialists Haynes have produced a manual for the Titanic
Nearly a century after the ill-fated luxury liner sank on its maiden voyage to the depths of the freezing the North Atlantic, those masters of the motorists' car manual at Haynes have diversified into a fascinating new area with the 'RMS Titanic Owners' Workshop Manual 1909-12 (Olympic Class).'
The 160-page hardback tome covers both the technical specifications of the superlative steam ship and the all too human tragedy which befell the passengers and crew after the ship's owners and captain tempted fate too far - and lost.
Details range from the making and fitting of its three giant propellers to the furnishing of the luxury state rooms, and from the creation of its three vast anchor to the choice and fitting of rivets - many of which failed.
A whole chapter is devoted to the intricate design of lifeboats - of which there were sadly and scandalously far too few.
The new and 'missing' manual has been published exactly a year ahead of the 100th anniversary of the Titanic's sinking in April 1912.WILL IT FIT IN MY HARBOUR?RMSTITANIC BY NUMBERS

Length: 882ft

Breadth 92ft 6 ins

Keel to navigating bridge: 104ft

Keel to top of funnels: 175 ft

Masts: 2

Max Speed - 24 knots

Weight: 46,328 tons

Anchors: 5 : including a monster 15.5 tonner.

Rivets used: estimated 3 million

Cost to build: £2million

Capacity: 3,300 passengers.

Passengers actual: 1,320

Crew: 900

Funnels: 4

Life-boats: 20

Power: steam

Boilers: 29

Furnaces: 159

Fuel: coal

Propellers: 3

Engines: 3

Special features: 15 watertight bulkheads

Stretching 882ft long with a 104ft navigating bridge sitting 104ft above the keel, weighing 46,328 tons, and capable of carrying 3,300 passengers. Yet this Leviathan, which then cost £2million to build, had only 20 full-sized life-boats capable of carrying 65 passengers each.
Cutaways and technical illustrations show key machinery and equipment, including features such as the Titanic's 15 watertight bulkheads that were supposed to make her 'practically unsinkable' even when holed.

National Geographic channel has a documentary on the boat that has been running all wekk. They actually diagnosed the quality of the rivots of the boat. White Star Line used low class rated steel rivots in the front side bow where the iceberg scraped it. The idea up to that time was that all collisions happen head on. The key word here is Steel Rivots. Not Iron. While Iron would still have its breaking point, it would have held long enough to make the trip to New York. Instead to cut cornors low grade steel was used to build the ship and the rest is maritime history. Titanic was the very first vessle to use the then new SOS/ Mayday distress call.
By maritime international law that anyone hearing an SOS call MUST respond.

Didnt help any that the telegraph operator pissed off the Californian by telling them via thelgraph to stop sending out loud messages. That ship turned off its radio for the night. The californian was the closest to the Titanic when it sank, but with the radio off, they never knew. Instead the Carpathia came to Titanics aid sum 2 hours after the ship was at the bottom of the Atlantic. They estimated by the end of this year, maybe the beginning of next year whats left of the ship will collapse onto itself due to time and rust.

Wiki answers says that Titanic had 20 Lifeboats - evidently there were 4 on the roof of the officer's quarters:

RMS Titanic carried 16 wooden boats in Wellin davits, plus four smaller collapsible boats (wooden bottoms with canvas sides that could be raised) on the roof of the officers' quarters, which were intended to be placed in the davits of the number 1 and 2 boats (the most forward) and lowered after the No. 1 and 2 boats had left.

They had what was required by British law at the time. The issue was that many were only at half or less then half capacity. The captin told the first mate " Women and children first " The first mate misunderstood and refused to allow men on them after as many females and kids boarded them. At some point it was every man for themselves so men started dressing in drag to get a spot on a lifeboat or just jumping from the decks while the boats were being lowered.

The ship was built to hold up to 64 lifeboats! They quickly vetoed that idea of having 64 lifeboats on board because it would clutter up the decks and use up valuable room and cramp the passengers. The Titanic had 20 lifeboats on it in the end, which ironically was more then required by law. That is because in 1912 the amount of lifeboats required by the Board of Trade was set depending on the ship's weight. Since Titanic was one of the heaviest boats of it's time the weight class Titanic fit into was 10,000 tons and over though Titanic was 46,328 tons, way over 10,000 tons. The class she was in only required her to have enough lifeboats to carry 1,060 people. Titanic held more then this with 1,178 people over the amount required by law. It didn't really help that the lifeboats were not filled to capacity only 705 of the 1,178 seats were filled. A lot of people think this was all the officers fault for launching the boats half full but it actually was not all their fault. Some passengers refused to get in boats because they could not possible imagine the ship sinking but most passengers did not even know the extent of the situation. Most of the officers did not know the extent of the situation either until it was too late. It reality the number of lifeboats that Titanic should have had was around that 64, but out of this horrible ship wreck we now have the law that you need enough life boats to hold all your passengers no matter what. Even though this was a horrible disaster we all learned a lesson.

I loved "The Titanic" with Leo DiCaprio. Of course, it came out when I was in Junior High and was absolutely obsessed with him. It's funny cause now my five year old is fascinated by the sinking of the ship. He has 2 books about the Titanic and is always wanting to look at pics of it online. He wants to watch the movie, but I think he is still a little too young for that yet.

“Man, I was tame compared to what they do now. Are you kidding? I didn’t do anything but just jiggle.”

No, but there was a young crew member named J. Dawson (not sure what the "J" stood for; I think it was Joseph) whose body was found and buried in one of the cemeteries in Halifax where a number of victims are buried. Needless to say, his grave started getting a LOT of attention after the movie came out, never mind that the last time we saw Jack onscreen he was heading for Davy Jones' locker...

My son is absolutely obsessed with the Titanic. For Easter, The EB, is bringing him the Titanic Board game and a model. We are also getting him a piece of coal that was salvaged from the 1994 trip down by RMS Titanic Inc. for his birthday. I can not wait to see his face. We are thinking of going to the museum in Branson this summer. He is Autistic and this is his thing right now. I also have 3 different things recording on the DVR tonight. I think he is going to Titanic me out this week. LOL Does anyone else have anything Titanic-esq going on this week?

You gotta wonder what will happen next year for the hundredth anniversary? I was watching some old videos I bought WAY back in the 80s of a dozen survivors being interviewed and still tugs at you. When I was just a little kid our local paper here ran an interview with a man named Valentine Branson, who had been on the Baltic and remembered passing within sight of Titanic that Sunday, from what I recall. I promptly made my parents track him out so I could go meet him and talk to him about it all-though he made the bizarre claim repeatedly that the ship had been built of concrete! But then he was about ninety when I met him back in 1973. Still, quite fascinating to meet him, though I think he rather embellished his story with the passage of time!

My son is absolutely obsessed with the Titanic. For Easter, The EB, is bringing him the Titanic Board game and a model. We are also getting him a piece of coal that was salvaged from the 1994 trip down by RMS Titanic Inc. for his birthday. I can not wait to see his face. We are thinking of going to the museum in Branson this summer. He is Autistic and this is his thing right now. I also have 3 different things recording on the DVR tonight. I think he is going to Titanic me out this week. LOL Does anyone else have anything Titanic-esq going on this week?

This reminds me of one of my students. He is mentally disabled (I hate all the labels they give these kids. I don't even know what to use anymore.) and very bright. He is also obsessed with the Titanic. He loves to draw pictures of it.

I'm actually glad to hear these special needs kids have an interest in the Titanic, or any part of history. I'd rather they be "obsessed" with something relevant to learning than video games or television.

The exhibition is currently on at the O2 in London until the end of July, so looking to book thanks to your lovely recommendations. Thinking of taking my 5 year old, has anyone else taken a young child?? Or would you recommend a sitter?

The exhibition is currently on at the O2 in London until the end of July, so looking to book thanks to your lovely recommendations. Thinking of taking my 5 year old, has anyone else taken a young child?? Or would you recommend a sitter?

It depends on the kid. I know when I went there wasn't anything flashy or interactive. Just a lot of exhibits. Little one may be bored.

"I will be buried in a spring loaded casket filled with confetti, and a future archaeologist will have one awesome day at work."

My son is absolutely obsessed with the Titanic. For Easter, The EB, is bringing him the Titanic Board game and a model. We are also getting him a piece of coal that was salvaged from the 1994 trip down by RMS Titanic Inc. for his birthday. I can not wait to see his face. We are thinking of going to the museum in Branson this summer. He is Autistic and this is his thing right now. I also have 3 different things recording on the DVR tonight. I think he is going to Titanic me out this week. LOL Does anyone else have anything Titanic-esq going on this week?

Our family went to Branson for New Years and we saw where the exhibit is held. We were told that it was going to be an exact replica of the ship. What's left out is that it is an exact replica of the bow and pretty much stops where the bridge is in pictures, and what is there is scaled down to 1/2 size. Very disappointing to see. After having been to three Titanic exhibits (Kansas City 2x and Oklahoma City) I wasn't going to waste time with it.

It's also important to note that the one is Branson does not have any relics from the seabed. If you haven't seen other exhibits it might be a good place to start, but if you've been to other exhibits it might be very disappointing.

yea it did just china and a few other things but nothing jaw dropping. the exhibit that's on tour isn't anything really amazing if you wanna see the "good stuff" u gotta travel up to nova s. and go to the "Real" titanic museum where they have a section of the ship and all that. the one in branson is basically a combination of all the touring exhibits and is actually quite neat. i would give it a second chance...

[I]"There comes a time in every women's life when the only thing that helps is a glass of champagne."[/FONT]

No, but there was a young crew member named J. Dawson (not sure what the "J" stood for; I think it was Joseph) whose body was found and buried in one of the cemeteries in Halifax where a number of victims are buried. Needless to say, his grave started getting a LOT of attention after the movie came out, never mind that the last time we saw Jack onscreen he was heading for Davy Jones' locker...

Our family went to Branson for New Years and we saw where the exhibit is held. We were told that it was going to be an exact replica of the ship. What's left out is that it is an exact replica of the bow and pretty much stops where the bridge is in pictures, and what is there is scaled down to 1/2 size. Very disappointing to see. After having been to three Titanic exhibits (Kansas City 2x and Oklahoma City) I wasn't going to waste time with it.

It's also important to note that the one is Branson does not have any relics from the seabed. If you haven't seen other exhibits it might be a good place to start, but if you've been to other exhibits it might be very disappointing.

We haven't been to any yet. We wanted to start with the one in Branson because it is the closest. I might check into the one in Kansas City, I have relatives that live there.
Someone mentioned video games, He plays those too. They helped with his OT immensely. He currently is playing "Free Realms" & "Roblox" and on each he spends his time building and rebuilding the Titanic. lol He has a wii that he uses occasionally and we really want to get him the Art attachment thingy that goes with it. This kid can also build the Titanic on his Etch a Sketch. At first he would draw it very simple on there and now he can add the rigging and everything. The only problem he seems to be having with it is the port holes.

LiveScience.com – Tue Apr 26, 12:01 pm ET
Five days after the passenger ship the Titanic sank, the crew of the rescue ship Mackay-Bennett pulled the body of a fair-haired, roughly 2-year-old boy out of the Atlantic Ocean on April 21, 1912. Along with many other victims, his body went to a cemetery in Halifax, Nova Scotia, where the crew of the Mackay-Bennett had a headstone dedicated to the "unknown child" placed over his grave.

When it sank, the Titanic took the lives of 1,497 of the 2,209 people aboard with it. Some bodies were recovered, but names remained elusive, while others are still missing. But researchers believe that they have finally resolved the identity of the unknown child -- concluding that he was 19-month-old Sidney Leslie Goodwin from England. [Photo of Sidney Goodwin]

Though the unknown child was incorrectly identified twice before, researchers believe they have now conclusively determined the child was Goodwin. After his recovery, he was initially believed to be a 2-year-old Swedish boy, Gösta Leonard Pålsson, who was seen being washed overboard as the ship sank. This boy's mother, Alma Pålsson, was recovered with the tickets for all four of her children in her pocket, and buried in a grave behind the unknown child.

The effort to verify the child's identity using genetics began a little over a decade ago, when Ryan Parr, an adjunct professor at Lakehead University in Ontario who has worked with DNA extracted from ancient human remains, watched some videos about the Titanic.

"I thought 'Wow, I wonder if anyone is interested or still cares about the unidentified victims of the Titanic,'" Parr said.

A name for the unknown child?

In 2001, with permission from the Pålsson family, the unknown child's remains were exhumed from Fairview Lawn Cemetery, one of the Halifax cemeteries where Titanic victims were interred. Parr had hoped to investigate the identities of other victims as well, though decomposition interfered. Two of the coffins held only mud, and only a 2.4-inch-long (6 centimeter) fragment of an arm bone and three teeth remained of the unknown child. But this was enough.

From these remains, Parr and his team extracted DNA from a section of mitochondria (energy-producing centers of the cells) that rapidly accumulates mutations, called HV1. Mitochondrial DNA is passed from mother to offspring, so the team compared the unknown child's DNA sequence with samples from the maternal relatives of the Pålsson child. These didn't match.

They broadened their search to include five other boys under age 3 who had died in the disaster. Alan Ruffman, who became involved in the project as a research associate of the Maritime Museum of the Atlantic, ultimately tracked down the maternal lines of all six children (including the Pålsson child) with help from genealogists, historians, Titanic researchers, translators, librarians, archivists and members of the families.

By comparing the unknown child's HV1 with these other young Titanic victims, the researchers eliminated all but two of the boys -- Eino Viljami Panula, a 13-month-old Finnish boy, and Sidney Goodwin. [History's Most Overlooked Mysteries]

An expert analysis of the child's teeth put his age somewhere between 9 months and 15 months -- seeming to eliminate Goodwin, who was older. So, the researchers concluded the boy was Panula and, in 2004, published their results.

A second try

But doubts remained. Ultimately, a pair of leather shoes recovered from the unknown child and held in the Maritime Museum of the Atlantic caused the researchers to question the identification.

The shoes had been saved by Clarence Northover, a Halifax police sergeant in 1912, who helped guard the bodies and belongings of the Titanic victims, according to the museum's website. A letter from Northover's grandson, Earle, recounts how the victim's clothing had been burned to stop souvenir hunters. Clarence Northover couldn't bring himself to burn the little shoes, and when no relatives claimed them, he put the shoes in his desk drawer at the police station. In 2002, Earle Northover donated them to the museum. These shoes were too large for a 13-month-old to wear.

Parr and his team attempted the identification again, this time with the help of the U.S. Armed Forces DNA Identification Laboratory.

They looked at another, less mutation-prone section of the mitochondrial DNA, where they found a single difference that indicated that Goodwin might actually be the unknown child. The Armed Forces lab confirmed this when they found a second, single difference in another section of the DNA.

"Luckily, it was a rare difference, so that is what gives you 98 percent certainty the identification is correct," Parr said.

The loss of a family

Before he died, Sidney Goodwin was traveling on the Titanic with his parents, Frederick and Augusta, and five siblings from England to Niagara Falls, N.Y.

Carol Goodwin, a 77-year-old Wisconsin resident, heard about the ill-fated family from Frederick Goodwin's sisters, one of whom was Carol's grandmother.

"I can't say that it really startled me or amazed me," Carol Goodwin said of the news that the unknown child was her relative. "I guess maybe it had been so long in coming."

As a child, she learned about Frederick Goodwin's family by eavesdropping on conversations between her grandmother and her great aunt.

"They didn't talk about the children that much," Carol Goodwin told LiveScience. "It was their brother who was a favorite brother, how kind he was to them growing up."

Goodwin's interest in family history didn't spark until her 13-year-old granddaughter Becky saw a Titanic exhibit and wrote an essay for school. When her teacher wanted to submit the article to the magazine "Junior Scholastic," Goodwin wanted to check the facts first.

Now Goodwin is working on two books on the subject, a smaller one about the unknown child and a larger book she has titled "The Goodwins Aboard the Titanic: Saga of a Third-Class Family." (The family was traveling third class.) And, in a year, she and her husband plan to take a centennial cruise in memory of the Titanic.

On Aug. 6, 2008, relatives of the Goodwin family held a memorial service in Fairview Lawn Cemetery where they now believe Sidney Goodwin was buried under the unknown child's headstone. A cousin read the names of about 50 children who had also perished when the Titanic went down and a bell was rung for each, she said.

A soft, drizzling rain began to fall as the first name was read, and stopped when the list was finished, she recalled. Ultimately, the family left the headstone and the grave as it was.

"The tombstone of the unknown child represents all of the children who perished on the Titanic, and we left it that way," she said.

The remains of the rest of the Goodwins family have never been recovered.

"From those (unidentified bodies) that were buried in Halifax, I have read the coroner's reports for each of them, and nothing fits," she said.

An article describing the genetic analysis that led to the final identification of the unknown child's remains is scheduled to be published in the June 2011 issue of the journal Forensic Science International: Genetics and is already available online.

I was fortunate to see the Titanic exhibit in Las Vegas a few years back. They had replicated the famous stairwell and the differences between the cabins (1st class, 2nd class, etc.). It was extremely interesting. We also received a card at the beginning with a passenger's name on it and were able to find out at the end of the exhibit whether or not our person survived. My person did not.

This exhibit was the best I have ever seen. To see the dishes that were literally in the same condition as the day the ship sank was incredible. The whole exhibit was incredible. They even had a mock iceberg in the exhibit. It was amazing.

"I just know I'm not the greatest power on this earth. I didn't create myself, because I would have done a hell of a better job." -Layne Staley

in those days a stricken ship could expect to quickly receive aid from another ship in the lanes. the other ship would lower its' boats and they would relay back and forth. at least that was the theory.

IF they had turned left a little sooner,or if they had watched where they were going...

Knowlege Comes With Deaths release

Heaven's on the pillow,it's Silence competes with Hell

"If you don't go to other peoples' funerals,they won't come to yours."-Yogi Berra

Many many moons ago I took my wife and kids to the Tropicana Hotel in Atlantic City to the Titanic exhibit. It was really interesting they had a wall of ice and aloy of artifacts, they even had a small piece of the ship on display on the boardwalk. For some reason what really almost made me lose it was a piece of a broken toy marble.

Attention, serious Titanic buffs with cash to burn and no issues with claustrophobia: Groupon is offering a $12,500 deal today (actual value: $59,680) on an excursion to see the sunken ship up close and personal, reports the Chicago Tribune. The highlight of the 13-day trip, which departs from Newfoundland: descending in a small deep-sea craft to zip around the wreckage and take photos. If that's not enough to justify the price, however, note that you also get a DVD of the movie signed by ... a Leonardo DiCaprio impersonator. http://www.newser.com/story/141707/g...e-titanic.html