(Original post by freedom1)
I want the ability to vote for my head of state. We send our air force and army to Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq etc so they can vote for their head of state, well why shouldn't we?

Hmm, I think we send them over so they could have the freedom to choose their own system of government, sure. Whether it's exclusively republican or not is another question. The King of Afghanistan was almost restored when the Taliban fell, but the Americans vetoed it.

(Original post by gladders)
Hmm, I think we send them over so they could have the freedom to choose their own system of government, sure. Whether it's exclusively republican or not is another question. The King of Afghanistan was almost restored when the Taliban fell, but the Americans vetoed it.

The only reason people are pro monarchy in the UK is because of the propaganda being churned out by our media. I hope this country enjoys generations of brain drain, while the most gifted people leave our country in search for somewhere more free.

(Original post by freedom1)
The only reason people are pro monarchy in the UK is because of the propaganda being churned out by our media. I hope this country enjoys generations of brain drain, while the most gifted people leave our country in search for somewhere more free.

'More free'?

Please give evidence of people emigrating from the UK as a direct result of the oppressive policies of the monarchy.

(Original post by Pink Liquid)
No. Only because I am not that bothered about them

Yes. They generate and contribute to GDP in the UK economy. i.e. Tourist attraction.
Also, imagine the UK without a monarchy? They are part of history.

Imagine Russia or France without a monarchy. Not so hard is it? Why is it any different for Britain?

Also, saying British history and tradition must be upheld is kinda irrelevant considering we now have a parliament etc --> the monarchy of modern times in Britain are simply figureheads with no real power in reality

As long as we have nation-states, including the United Kingdom, I see little reason to do away with such an integral part of ours as the monarchy, and even if we do as a species manage to move beyond the concept some day as we continue to better ourselves I would hope that we would have the technology available to create a true, direct democracy through the internet (or a successor to it) or a neural network or some such thing rather than invest our hopes for democracy in a bunch of corrupt plutocratic demagogues as republics have done in the present day. Essentially, I see modern constitutional monarchies and republics as about the same in terms of democratic credentials, and there's no point changing from one to the other against our traditions until something radically better comes along.

I don't get why everybody thinks that we need a monarchy? I mean I guess their argument is that it would bring tourism, but nobody will go to england just because of the queen and france and germany are doing perfectly fine without one. I know I'm sounding a bit extreme but everything the queen does, our government can do and she just gets money for hardly doing anything