Its tough to know at times (in general). Sometimes it's included sometimes its not, that's just how it is being a suburb.

Even if you're a suburb with the second largest skyline in Florida and one of the largest skylines in the country that is still growing with even taller towers.

On the subject of Miami, there is a ton of stuff planned that hasn't made it to construction yet and the market is really heating up down here.

__________________"I'm going to bet you that when we're done --- I don't know when that will be --- historians will identify this as the most significant and rapid transformation of an American city.'' Former Miami City Commissioner Johnny Winton 05/22/2005

The same is true for Century City, Hollywood, and Downtown Los Angeles. Several highrise proposals have been approved, and will hopefully break ground by the end of the year. These are exciting times!

Oh yes, they are exciting times. Is there anything planned for Century City that's taller than what's there now? I always thought that would look great when I lived there.

__________________"I'm going to bet you that when we're done --- I don't know when that will be --- historians will identify this as the most significant and rapid transformation of an American city.'' Former Miami City Commissioner Johnny Winton 05/22/2005

If all that is currently under construction, or proposed here in Toronto gets completed, this will be what the tallest towers in our city look like:

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yup here is the most recent(scroll to right for more)

For those who are worried there is no height going up, if you scroll all the way to the right, the shortest one in that list (coming in at 36th place) will be this tower on the left:

Here is a photo of what the skyline is like now, and a rendering as to what it will look like with most of the above proposed towers built; note the
rendering is missing 7 of the latest proposed towers, but still gives an idea:

TB, is the market still strong in Toronto? Is there a good chance that we will see most of this? I like the way the skyine appears more balanced in the future rendering!

__________________"I'm going to bet you that when we're done --- I don't know when that will be --- historians will identify this as the most significant and rapid transformation of an American city.'' Former Miami City Commissioner Johnny Winton 05/22/2005

Thought you guys might enjoy this. This is the coming Miami World Convention Center and hotel adjoing the coming Miami World Center in the rendering.

__________________"I'm going to bet you that when we're done --- I don't know when that will be --- historians will identify this as the most significant and rapid transformation of an American city.'' Former Miami City Commissioner Johnny Winton 05/22/2005

TB, is the market still strong in Toronto? Is there a good chance that we will see most of this? I like the way the skyine appears more balanced in the future rendering!

The air in the condo market has been taken out and condo sales are returning to more sustainable levels (about 12,000 units/year). Prices have held, so it looks like there will be no crash like some were predicting.

All 7 of the buildings 200m+ U/C will be finished as they were 80% sold or better before shovels hit the ground. Of the 23 buildings 200m+ proposed, about half are far from a sure thing. Oxford (3), Theatre Block (3), 45 Bay, 460 Yonge, Eau de Soleil, Holt Renfrew, 37 Yorkville, and E Condos would be in that category; that's 12 of the 23. The remaining 11 will get built.

In conclusion, Toronto will see 18 buildings 200m+ added to its inventory with another 12 up in the air at this point. Those 12 could still happen, but it's too early to say. The 3 tower Theatre Block would sell well, but it's hinging on whether they win approval in a sensitive area of downtown. They'd have to tear down a theatre and 2 warehouse type buildings to do it.

Toronto's 200m+ Buildings
Built: 11
U/C: 7
Proposed: 23

If everything gets built Toronto will go from 11 to 41 buildings 200m+, that's quite a jump and good enough for 2nd spot in north America. Here are 2 nice shots that have been circulating lately:

Toronto, New York, and Miami all seem to be experiencing big booms. Often going overlooked are other cities that are having their own booms. In Canada, both Montreal and Calgary seem to be in the midst of one. They're much smaller than Toronto's boom, but noteworthy nonetheless. Even Niagara Falls has 3 buildings 200m+ proposed... and another one 197m.

As you can see from the video, the hotel is just one component in the massive Miami World Center project, just like Brickell Citycentre in my avatar already under construction. When completely built out, this is another project that will fill in the Miami skyline very nicely. Altogether, the project includes another very tall tower that you don't see in the video until 3:22. I think it's going to be mixed use and is a phase of the project will depend on market demand at that point. It will add great depth, density, and massiveness to the Miami skyline.

We get lots of Canadian tourists from Toronto every year, Isaidso. Miami is a big Canadian destination. An apartment building right next to mine is owned by Canadians who spend the winter here.

__________________"I'm going to bet you that when we're done --- I don't know when that will be --- historians will identify this as the most significant and rapid transformation of an American city.'' Former Miami City Commissioner Johnny Winton 05/22/2005

Toronto, New York, and Miami all seem to be experiencing big booms. Often going overlooked are other cities that are having their own booms. In Canada, both Montreal and Calgary seem to be in the midst of one. They're much smaller than Toronto's boom, but noteworthy nonetheless. Even Niagara Falls has 3 buildings 200m+ proposed... and another one 197m.

As you can see from the video, the hotel is just one component in the massive Miami World Center project, just like Brickell Citycentre in my avatar already under construction. When completely built out, this is another project that will fill in the Miami skyline very nicely. Altogether, the project includes another very tall tower that you don't see in the video until 3:22. I think it's going to be mixed use and is a phase of the project will depend on market demand at that point. It will add great depth, density, and massiveness to the Miami skyline.

We get lots of Canadian tourists from Toronto every year, Isaidso. Miami is a big Canadian destination. An apartment building right next to mine is owned by Canadians who spend the winter here.

I bet. We don't have a Florida of our own, so we head to places like Cuba, Arizona, Florida, Mexico, and central America by the millions every winter. I think there are some Florida communities that are about 80% Canuck. I'm thinking about a 2nd home and will likely buy in the next 10 years. I'm leaning towards Costa Rica though.

Regarding Miami, I think it's evolving into a substantial business centre for the entire region. It's strategically located between the northern and southern halves of America and will benefit tremendously from the growth in places like Brazil.

I bet. We don't have a Florida of our own, so we head to places like Cuba, Arizona, Florida, Mexico, and central America by the millions every winter. I think there are some Florida communities that are about 80% Canuck. I'm thinking about a 2nd home and will likely buy in the next 10 years. I'm leaning towards Costa Rica though. Oh, but Panama City is not far away.

Costa Rica will be a lot less expensive, but I think you'll miss being able to see skyscrapers.

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Regarding Miami, I think it's evolving into a substantial business centre for the entire region. It's strategically located between the northern and southern halves of America and will benefit tremendously from the growth in places like Brazil.

Brazilians are the ones fueling the current boom for the most part from what I understand. We also get quite a few German tourists here in the winter. If Luthansa can justify landing the A380 here in the winter, that is really saying something. We are one of the few American cities currently servicing the double-decker A380.

__________________"I'm going to bet you that when we're done --- I don't know when that will be --- historians will identify this as the most significant and rapid transformation of an American city.'' Former Miami City Commissioner Johnny Winton 05/22/2005

Brazilians are the ones fueling the current boom for the most part from what I understand. We also get quite a few German tourists here in the winter. If Luthansa can justify landing the A380 here in the winter, that is really saying something. We are one of the few American cities currently servicing the double-decker A380.

There's no denying what a huge winter destination Florida is. Germans are well known as the world's most prolific vacationers. They do more international travel than any one else on the planet. Btw, I met some in Costa Rica too. It was mostly Canadians and Americans down there though.