Among the topics they touched on were the firing of Mike McCarthy, player expectations and moving on. The show can be seen live at The Clubhouse Sports Pub & Grill in downtown Appleton or at clubhouselive.com.

Jones: I was a little shocked, if anything. I didn't expect that. I don't think anybody did, especially after a season with four games left. But that's just business. It has been done before with other teams, but I don't think it has been done here. A lot of people were surprised. It's just unfortunate that it had to happen, that he had to go out like that.

Q: Why do you think it came to this? Did you sense a disconnect between McCarthy and the team? Had he lost the locker room?

Jones: First off, no. Mike didn't lose the locker room. Guys were still bought in. It's just the way sometimes the ball rolls. He's a phenomenal coach. I don't think anybody can take that from him. He's a successful coach. He has been a successful coach. And he'll be a successful coach wherever he goes. We've had some close games that we just couldn't finish. Like I always say, coaches coach and players perform. So you can't really put all of the losses and the things that went wrong on him.

Q: Do you feel the players bear some of the responsibility for how this has all played out?

Jones: This is a partnership. When you play football, everybody has a role. It's not all one person's fault, one player's fault. It's not one side of the ball's fault. It's a collective thing. And once we all don't perform, then obviously the first person that goes is the head coach in this profession (and) any profession. That goes with the NBA. All of sports, that's what happens. But I wish Mike the best. He has been nothing but good to me. I appreciate everything he has done since he has been here. He made it a smooth transition for me coming out of college and getting adjusted to being a pro. It was super comfortable around here because of him.

Q: With McCarthy now out and an offseason of change looming, how do you expect the guys will handle these next four weeks?

Jones: I expect guys to play for one another. That's what it comes down to. Just playing for the guy next to you. I don't see guys letting this affect how they're going to play. I really don't. Because we all know, everybody in that locker room is a pro. We all know what can come with this business. We know that. You watch ESPN. You see it all the time. Coaches get let go. Players get let go. So we understand that this is our life.

Q: How do you move on and not let this coaching change become a distraction?

Kumerow: We've just got to make sure we hit the film, correct last week and move on to the next one. (Interim head) coach (Joe) Philbin said to us - it was a pretty good message - for the last four weeks of the season he said, "We're not chasing perfection, guys, because nobody ever plays a perfect game. It just doesn't happen. We're chasing progress." So over the last four weeks, we don't want to be perfect, we want to progress. We're going to try our best to just get better in all aspects of the field: special teams, offense, defense. That's all we can do is just try and progress as a team these last four weeks.