Need to play a team for tomorrow , we know today's team is not up to it.

4 debutants. Stll got the backbone of current team.

Haddin - captain at least he won;t be dropped for the next game and he has captained a first class team before.

Davis - probably scored the most runs of any openers in the shield.Or maybe Ed Cowans ?
Khwaja - deserves his chance
Clark is in by the skin of his teeth, only because of his age

White in because we need a more technically correct batsman than Smith at 6 and can biff the ball when needed and a potential leader
Beer - let's see what the selectors see in him. Hauritz very stiff to miss out.
Copeland -best of the young pacemen. Sorry Hilfty but we will see if any else can pick up 2 tail enders
Bollinger was our best bowler last season, and Bloody Mitchell Johnson, for every game he wins for you, you have to play a man short for 4 games inbetween. He is so inconsistent I''ve had a gutful of him. Give me Harris anyday

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The selectors have been very impatient with their spinners but dropping someone before even playing them would be a bridge too far for even them, surely.

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Khawaja has to play though, surely. Not sure if any other changes would be made though. Would love to see someone like Copeland come in for Hilfenhaus, but given that it's Sydney you'd think that they might actually Beer. Except what excuse are they going to give for him playing? Unlike the last two Tests he doesn't actually have any local knowledge.

Originally Posted by flibbertyjibber

Only a bunch of convicts having been beaten 3-0 and gone 9 tests without a win and won just 1 in 11 against England could go into the home series saying they will win. England will win in Australia again this winter as they are a better side which they have shown this summer. 3-0 doesn't lie girls.

Hmm... is it still a dropping if he doesn't play? Maybe. It's not like Beer is very young, though... 26, isn't he?

There's just no logical way you can see them changing their mind on him though. What's happened between when he got picked in the squad and now? It's not like he's bowled and looked poor, even over an extremely small sample size.

The only logic that sees Hauritz picked ahead of Beer existed when Beer was picked in the first place. Nothing's changed to change their minds - it's not going to happen and if it does then it's even more worrying than the poor selection in the first place.

There's just no logical way you can see them changing their mind on him though. What's happened between when he got picked in the squad and now? It's not like he's bowled and looked poor, even over an extremely small sample size.

The only logic that sees Hauritz picked ahead of Beer existed when Beer was picked in the first place. Nothing's changed to change their minds - it's not going to happen and if it does then it's even more worrying than the poor selection in the first place.

I agree that Beer should play for the sake of consistency, despite the idiocy of him being picked in the first place

It'd be a good scenario to blood Khawaja, but it won't happen. Smith and Hughes have been awful but they were both long term selections, punting them now after just two tests - especially now that Sydney's going to be a dead rubber - would be dumb.

There will be a huge campaign for Khawaja to come into the side after this series. Hussey is back in the runs, Clarke is the next skipper due to lack of alternatives and Hughes and Smith will be persisted with for a while yet, so unfortunately, barring a big score in Sydney, I think he's going to take Ponting's place.

I expect Ponting to get a tap on the shoulder from the selectors in the lead up to the Sydney test, not telling him he'll be dropped, but hinting that they can't guarantee his selection beyond this series and prompting him to make an announcement of his own, like they tried with Steve Waugh in 02/03.