Still Rozeqloud I am preferring my Studio V 3rd ANV to the iRiver and DX100 when paired with my new 1Plus2s. The pairing is the best I've heard yet. Hard to believe it to be honest. I was always struggling to find a better pairing for the Studio V and I've finally found it. Hoping the 8As will also pair well. At this time I'm not so sure about the iRiver. It is getting better but how much better will it get from burn in? I'm debating on selling it and just keeping the Studio V 3rd ANV. That is where I am at at this time....

What makes the studio so much better for the 1plus2s than the rwak100 and dx100? Also would adding one of your portable amps such as your t1 to the studio make the 1plus2/studio pairing even better? And one more question (sorry for all the questions!) would adding a t1 to the studio/1plus2 combo get rid of the hiss?

What makes the studio so much better for the 1plus2s than the rwak100 and dx100? Also would adding one of your portable amps such as your t1 to the studio make the 1plus2/studio pairing even better? And one more question (sorry for all the questions!) would adding a t1 to the studio/1plus2 combo get rid of the hiss?

Nope. I don't find adding an amp to the Studio V to really make it better. It offsets everything. The sound stage becomes too big then and loses that personal/intimate feeling the Studio V has. This is very apparent in vocals. So in all the Studio V will sound worse IMO amped in comparison to most other DAPs which benefit from it.

Just how the Studio V images goes hand in hand with how the 1Plus2 images. Just enhances everything. The DX100 and RWA Ak100 just don't possess this quality with the 1Plus2. Vocals are simply put effortless and super detailed on the Studio V. I think a big part of this is how the 1Plus2 images. Unlike other IEMs which really don't give you a real sense of placement (artificial if anything). The 1Plus2s image in front of you! When you close your eyes you can picture the band in front of you. While on other IEMs its more so in your head than anything else. They give 3D a new definition and make IEMS like the EX1000 sound 2D in comparison!

Nope. I don't find adding an amp to the Studio V to really make it better. It offsets everything. The sound stage becomes too big then and loses that personal/intimate feeling the Studio V has. This is very apparent in vocals. So in all the Studio V will sound worse IMO amped in comparison to most other DAPs which benefit from it.

Just how the Studio V images goes hand in hand with how the 1Plus2 images. Just enhances everything. The DX100 and RWA Ak100 just don't possess this quality with the 1Plus2. Vocals are simply put effortless and super detailed on the Studio V. I think a big part of this is how the 1Plus2 images. Unlike other IEMs which really don't give you a real sense of placement (artificial if anything). The 1Plus2s image in front of you! When you close your eyes you can picture the band in front of you. While on other IEMs its more so in your head than anything else. They give 3D a new definition and make IEMS like the EX1000 sound 2D in comparison!

I guess another important favor to ask you is to test how well the 1plus2s do electronic music in general since I mostly listen to trance, house, d&b etc. Wouldn't the studios thin out the bass on the 1plus2 due to it being brighter than most other players?

What makes the studio so much better for the 1plus2s than the rwak100 and dx100? Also would adding one of your portable amps such as your t1 to the studio make the 1plus2/studio pairing even better? And one more question (sorry for all the questions!) would adding a t1 to the studio/1plus2 combo get rid of the hiss?

You can get rid of the hiss by finding the optimal volume setting of the Studio into no load. That is about 3 clicks under 100% - 100% volume. Then connect it via the cable of your choice to the T1 and voila! no hiss. I never use a HiSound product without an amp - if I'm using earphones of any sort.

The reasons are simple: HiSound products cannot drive earphones/headphones of less than 64Ω without - in some cases - massive drop offs, upticks in distortion, and a host of other problems. The HiSound only sounds its best when plugged into an external amp, or into proper headphones like the Beyer DT880 or Senn HD600. Those impose almost no load on its internal amplifier.

I strap a tiny iBasso T3D to the back of any HiSound product I use. Hiss, gone. Resolution: up to what the HiSound can actually do.

Plugging earphones directly into the HiSound (even the pack-in earphones unless the resistor is fully engaged) causes the bass to drop off and the other problems I mentioned above.

You can get rid of the hiss by finding the optimal volume setting of the Studio into no load. That is about 3 clicks under 100% - 100% volume. Then connect it via the cable of your choice to the T1 and voila! no hiss. I never use a HiSound product without an amp - if I'm using earphones of any sort.

The reasons are simple: HiSound products cannot drive earphones/headphones of less than 64Ω without - in some cases - massive drop offs, upticks in distortion, and a host of other problems. The HiSound only sounds its best when plugged into an external amp, or into proper headphones like the Beyer DT880 or Senn HD600. Those impose almost no load on its internal amplifier.

I strap a tiny iBasso T3D to the back of any HiSound product I use. Hiss, gone. Resolution: up to what the HiSound can actually do.

Plugging earphones directly into the HiSound (even the pack-in earphones unless the resistor is fully engaged) causes the bass to drop off and the other problems I mentioned above.

I'm curious though Shigzeo are you referring to the AMP3 Pro? I've never had these issues with my Studio V 3rd ANV. Also I find using the Studio V at near max volume on the T1 amp to not work out as the T1 amp gets way too loud before you pass channel imbalance on the T1s volume pot. Plus the sound is simply too rich at that point. At least from what I gathered from goodvibes calculations. The Studio V 3rd ANV should be around 1.5 ohms to slightly less. It would be nice if you could test this out or know someone who could confirm the Studio V 3rd ANV output impedance rating.

I'm curious though Shigzeo are you referring to the AMP3 Pro? I've never had these issues with my Studio V 3rd ANV. Also I find using the Studio V at near max volume on the T1 amp to not work out as the T1 amp gets way too loud before you pass channel imbalance on the T1s volume pot. Plus the sound is simply too rich at that point. At least from what I gathered from goodvibes calculations. The Studio V 3rd ANV should be around 1.5 ohms to slightly less. It would be nice if you could test this out or know someone who could confirm the Studio V 3rd ANV output impedance rating.

Ah you are talking about the 3rd ANV? I'm sorry, I've used only the one that was out in May. I'm not sure which that was, but dear me, it needed some help. A lot. I've also tested the first Studio and AMP3 Models. If the 3rd is that much different, then I may need to check it out later. I think I can borrow one in February.

I guess another important favor to ask you is to test how well the 1plus2s do electronic music in general since I mostly listen to trance, house, d&b etc. Wouldn't the studios thin out the bass on the 1plus2 due to it being brighter than most other players?

I tested it on Armn Van Buurin's "Unforgivable" and it was not lacking in bass at all. Yet the speed was superb. Having good seperation on Dubstep is almost like an oxymoron lol ;).

I tested it on Armn Van Buurin's "Unforgivable" and it was not lacking in bass at all.

Wonderful song. If you really want to test for low bass as well, not just impact, check out Markus Schulz' MainStage, which is part of his progression album. Earphones do one of two thing in the opening seconds of that song: nothing until about 15 seconds, or rumble. Rumblers are ones that have a very good low bass response. The bass is very low, typically the sort that you never hear as music is playing, which makes it a great benchmark. Have fun and do tell what new albums you've come across. I've got 200$ burning a whole in accrued christmas/birthdays from years out.

Ah you are talking about the 3rd ANV? I'm sorry, I've used only the one that was out in May. I'm not sure which that was, but dear me, it needed some help. A lot. I've also tested the first Studio and AMP3 Models. If the 3rd is that much different, then I may need to check it out later. I think I can borrow one in February.

Yeah that would be interesting to hear. Could you get the output impedance for us as well? I really want to know what it is. I have a feeling it is on the lower side though. There are actually 3 Studio Models to my knowledge. I think the AMP3 Pro, Studio I (really, really, really bad hiss), Studio V 2nd edition (also really bad hiss but much less than the I version lol), and then Studio V 3rd ANV (still hisses but reduced by about 65 to 70 percent from the 2nd edition). Also treble is cleaner and more refined on it. Bass is more open and less compressed (more natural sounding). The sound stage is slightly bigger as well, more airy. Mids are as good as ever and that is my favorite thing about hisound products. The vocals are simply to die for! ;). The output power is about 85mW to my knowledge. I generally listen at around volume 5 to 7 for most listening. Sometime up to 14 if its a very quite track. I can listen as low as volume 1 if I intend to wear them to bed :). Otherwise I won't be able to sleep lol. I'll be analyzing music all night :P. Although I have to admit that is what made me rediscover this player and its potential with the 1Plus2s.

Ah, that volume! Haha, all HiSounds I've used are too loud on anything over 7 for modern music with sensitive earphones. The first Roccoo was crazy. Sometimes volume 1 was too loud with earphones like the FitEar 333. Anyway, back to DX100. And, trance. You and I seem to have similar tastes. Love to chat about it more.

Ah, that volume! Haha, all HiSounds I've used are too loud on anything over 7 for modern music with sensitive earphones. The first Roccoo was crazy. Sometimes volume 1 was too loud with earphones like the FitEar 333. Anyway, back to DX100. And, trance. You and I seem to have similar tastes. Love to chat about it more.

Fit Ear is a no go on the ANV ;). Sound really good I think. I think even better than on DX100. But the Fit Ear is way too sensitive. Too much hiss. It was pissing me off! lol Anyways, as you said, back on topic :P.

Lee, using the 1plus2s with the rwak100/dx100/or studio which setup has overall better bass? Bass that reaches the lowest, is the most clean, refined, etc Since I mostly listen to trance and the likes (atb, zedd, nero, etc) I really want a great rig for edm.

I believe Lee has already sold his DX100 and have his RWAK100 & Studio V ANV left. I have my RWAK100 & DX100 so somehow between the two of us, there'll be answers. Got a question, using 1+2 headphones ok? Also got sample tracks? I'm not familiar with "atb", "zedd", "nero" but if we're just talking about only comparing bass between DAPs that can't be too hard.

I believe Lee has already sold his DX100 and have his RWAK100 & Studio V ANV left. I have my RWAK100 & DX100 so somehow between the two of us, there'll be answers. Got a question, using 1+2 headphones ok? Also got sample tracks? I'm not familiar with "atb", "zedd", "nero" but if we're just talking about only comparing bass between DAPs that can't be too hard.

1 plus 2 is perfect, it's what I am planning on upgrading to from my humble gr07s. How would I upload flac or mp3s on here?