And the president needs to be jailed for allowing such huge gouging in the first place. Step up, defend America's working class and drill here if need be. Stop with all the crap about other nations getting rich off our backs. Oh...and in case you all hand't noticed...those nations getting rich are the most commonly associated with terrorism! So...we're funding world terrorism by paying these higher prices. Nice!

You will need to know what overhead is, and what a profit margin is to understand it. Better get a dictionary.

Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist

You're so funny! I love the fact that you try and do psyops on people but it's like playground level abilities. You're cute :)

Quoting: American Trappers, LLC

Do you know what the profit margin is on a gallon of milk?

Do you know what the profit margin is on a gallon of water?

Compare that to the profit margin of a gallon of gas.

I predict you will not answer my questions honestly because the truth conflicts with your world view.

And i'm not just cute, i'm damned cute.

Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist

Profit margin for whom? Farmer makes about $1.00/gallon according to the people I know who run dairies and according to most market research. Now...different farmers have different qualities of milk and some may receive a little more or a little less.

Since the average gallon of milk here is about $2.75 / gallon that leaves $1.75 per gallon. So...split that between the producer who pasteurizes/homogonizes and adds or removes products to the milk, the delivery company if separate, the wholesale marketer who buys large milk purchases and then sells to smaller stores, and to the actual stores who carry the milk for you to buy. That's not a lot of profit. I know from experience, a good milk producing cow costs about $3,500.00 a year to maintain. That doesn't include the costs it takes to run a dairy, pass inspections, pay for water, pay for cleaning, pay for milking machines, etc.

In reality...nobody's making a lot of money here. Thanks for letting me prove that. Oh...and btw, if you're dumb enough to pay $4.00 or more per gallon because of the specific retail chain you buy from...that's your own fault.

And the president needs to be jailed for allowing such huge gouging in the first place. Step up, defend America's working class and drill here if need be. Stop with all the crap about other nations getting rich off our backs. Oh...and in case you all hand't noticed...those nations getting rich are the most commonly associated with terrorism! So...we're funding world terrorism by paying these higher prices. Nice!

Quoting: American Trappers, LLC

the re-election of Barak Obama will mark the dawningof the Socialist Spring for america -- and the American Dreamwill finally be realized for all its people.

And the president needs to be jailed for allowing such huge gouging in the first place. Step up, defend America's working class and drill here if need be. Stop with all the crap about other nations getting rich off our backs. Oh...and in case you all hand't noticed...those nations getting rich are the most commonly associated with terrorism! So...we're funding world terrorism by paying these higher prices. Nice!

Quoting: American Trappers, LLC

the re-election of Barak Obama will mark the dawningof the Socialist Spring for america -- and the American Dreamwill finally be realized for all its people.

Quoting: dr.einstein

ewwww...you just went from cute to downright ugly. You like Obama...and you're calling me the socialist? What an ironic idiocy.

And the president needs to be jailed for allowing such huge gouging in the first place. Step up, defend America's working class and drill here if need be. Stop with all the crap about other nations getting rich off our backs. Oh...and in case you all hand't noticed...those nations getting rich are the most commonly associated with terrorism! So...we're funding world terrorism by paying these higher prices. Nice!

Quoting: American Trappers, LLC

the re-election of Barak Obama will mark the dawningof the Socialist Spring for america -- and the American Dreamwill finally be realized for all its people.

Stop moaning? What a Pratt you turned out to be.First up, converting your Liters (the French metric system you were FORCED to adopt) should be done into U.S. gallons not the quite a bit larger Imperial gallon as was standard in the UK when I was a lad.Please try to understand that the UK is TINY!A lot of people in the USA 'HAVE' to drive 75-100 miles round trip every day to go to work and back, their are no viable bus or train alternatives outside of major cities and a lot of people need to move tools and materials, you can not get on a bus with 1000lbs of lumber to build a barn on a distant mountain!In the USA, to survive, you need your own wheels. England is about the same size as Americas smallest state,Vermont.It takes about 2 days to drive across Texas on highway 10 if you stop to sleep and eat,(I'm sure many truckers do it fasterbut for regular people it is quite a voyage).Try to understand that moving a truck load of Veggies 1000 miles can not be done in a Mini Cooper.3 or 4 England's would fit inside the State of Texas alone.When all is aid and done,we pay as much of our income,or more,by necessity, than the Brits,or Europeans, it is not a choice if you want to eat and have a roof over your head.

And the president needs to be jailed for allowing such huge gouging in the first place. Step up, defend America's working class and drill here if need be. Stop with all the crap about other nations getting rich off our backs. Oh...and in case you all hand't noticed...those nations getting rich are the most commonly associated with terrorism! So...we're funding world terrorism by paying these higher prices. Nice!

Quoting: American Trappers, LLC

the re-election of Barak Obama will mark the dawningof the Socialist Spring for america -- and the American Dreamwill finally be realized for all its people.

Stop moaning? What a Pratt you turned out to be.First up, converting your Liters (the French metric system you were FORCED to adopt) should be done into U.S. gallons not the quite a bit larger Imperial gallon as was standard in the UK when I was a lad.Please try to understand that the UK is TINY!A lot of people in the USA 'HAVE' to drive 75-100 miles round trip every day to go to work and back, their are no viable bus or train alternatives outside of major cities and a lot of people need to move tools and materials, you can not get on a bus with 1000lbs of lumber to build a barn on a distant mountain!In the USA, to survive, you need your own wheels. England is about the same size as Americas smallest state,Vermont.It takes about 2 days to drive across Texas on highway 10 if you stop to sleep and eat,(I'm sure many truckers do it fasterbut for regular people it is quite a voyage).Try to understand that moving a truck load of Veggies 1000 miles can not be done in a Mini Cooper.3 or 4 England's would fit inside the State of Texas alone.When all is aid and done,we pay as much of our income,or more,by necessity, than the Brits,or Europeans, it is not a choice if you want to eat and have a roof over your head.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25017812

These are the people who think meat is born in plastic wrap all ready for their fry pan and have no idea that french fries were once potatoes that were grown in a field.

Why don’t you people start reading. There is a series of refinery problems due to fire damage, limited supply, retooling form Summer to Winter blends etc. The problems should be resolved shortly but Kalifornia refuses to allow more refineries in the State, mandate ridiculous “blend” requirements (or they could just ship from other refineries), etc. When you walk a knifes edge on the supply / demand game sometimes you are going to get burned.

It stuns me that no one seems to understand where the energy they rely on for daily existence comes from or how it is produced/refined. Instead they sit around and bitch about its someone else’s fault. It’s not. Just look in the fucking mirror for the problem.

BTW diesel is high this time of year due to retooling for the production of winter heating oil.

“It's a combination of low inventories and multiple California refinery problems,"“The problem is likely a short-term one according to some as the temporary shutdown of local refineries (after Chevron's Richmond refinery fire) and maintenance is completed…”

You sound like you might be well read, but you don't understand business very well, do you? If I own a department store I need to make a profit but I can't ask for so much that I drive people away UNLESS I have something that people CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT. So...as a gas company, they'r bragging and letting everybody know they're doing EXTREMELY well. In the hundreds of billions in profits. As a department store owner if I want to expand my store or retile the bathrooms or paint the exterior or a move to a new and bigger location, I can't raise the prices drastically on all my merchandise to do that. Like I said, I'll drive away customers. So, I have to be business smart and look at the profits I've made and saved over time. Just like the gas companies. They've made hundreds of billions. So...their "Good business sense" says they have plenty of money to draw on for a few million dollar projects here and there, a few million dollar shortages here and there. However, instead of drawing from their savings and profits like every other company in the world must do, they just raise prices on everybody to pay for their expenses! The ONLY REASON they can do this is because of weak spined presidents who REFUSE to defend the American working family from price gouging. This is a resource that we HAVE to have and they know it. So, instead of placing a limit on it like they should...our presidents buy into the oil companies and make money off our hardships! Democrat and republican alike!

Quoting: American Trappers, LLC

Did you actually read the links? How about the FIRE at the largest refinery in Kali?? Owning a dept store obviously gives you such a great insight to the technology to produce/refine/blend/distribute hydrocarbons and the associated technical issues.

BTW I write patents for a living and am the Pres of a technology company that has a focus on energy/hydrocarbons… And yes I understand business very well. Thank you.

And the president needs to be jailed for allowing such huge gouging in the first place. Step up, defend America's working class and drill here if need be. Stop with all the crap about other nations getting rich off our backs. Oh...and in case you all hand't noticed...those nations getting rich are the most commonly associated with terrorism! So...we're funding world terrorism by paying these higher prices. Nice!

Quoting: American Trappers, LLC

the re-election of Barak Obama will mark the dawningof the Socialist Spring for america -- and the American Dreamwill finally be realized for all its people.

Quoting: dr.einstein

LOL You are a fucking Communist!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17851333

no. i'm a Socialist. and i'm educated enough to know the difference.

Quoting: dr.einstein

Oh, you're educated? By whom? The Commies that convinced you that you are a socialist?

You will need to know what overhead is, and what a profit margin is to understand it. Better get a dictionary.

Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist

You're so funny! I love the fact that you try and do psyops on people but it's like playground level abilities. You're cute :)

Quoting: American Trappers, LLC

Do you know what the profit margin is on a gallon of milk?

Do you know what the profit margin is on a gallon of water?

Compare that to the profit margin of a gallon of gas.

I predict you will not answer my questions honestly because the truth conflicts with your world view.

And i'm not just cute, i'm damned cute.

Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist

Profit margin for whom? Farmer makes about $1.00/gallon according to the people I know who run dairies and according to most market research. Now...different farmers have different qualities of milk and some may receive a little more or a little less.

Since the average gallon of milk here is about $2.75 / gallon that leaves $1.75 per gallon. So...split that between the producer who pasteurizes/homogonizes and adds or removes products to the milk, the delivery company if separate, the wholesale marketer who buys large milk purchases and then sells to smaller stores, and to the actual stores who carry the milk for you to buy. That's not a lot of profit. I know from experience, a good milk producing cow costs about $3,500.00 a year to maintain. That doesn't include the costs it takes to run a dairy, pass inspections, pay for water, pay for cleaning, pay for milking machines, etc.

In reality...nobody's making a lot of money here. Thanks for letting me prove that. Oh...and btw, if you're dumb enough to pay $4.00 or more per gallon because of the specific retail chain you buy from...that's your own fault.

Quoting: American Trappers, LLC

I knew you wouldn't answer honestly so I will.

Profit margin on a gallon of milk is around 39%

Profit margin on a gallon of water can be anywhere from 50% up to 200% depending on the brand you buy.

Profit margin on a gallon of regular gasoline is around 7%

I buy gas from Kroger and with current prices and my discount its $2.85/gallon.

Stop fear mongering. Some places in California always have high prices. When I lived in La Jolla in 2010 gas was always $5/gal for Primium. It's still $5/gal. The price there never changes, but you can drive few miles to Pacific Beach and get normal Cali prices. La Jolla just has rich people that don't want to leave the village with their million dollar sports cars.

Diesel in California has been more expensive than regular gas ever since the whole sulfur content bullshit. Now we have to get a special mix of fuel for both diesel and regular gas that no one in the nation uses. The funny thing is, all the crude oil flows to California to be refined and sold to other states. So there is no shortage per-say, just the shortage of the special California fuel. If the state doesn't do something about this and still doesn't allow selling regular fuel in California to meet demand, it's going to be a disaster.