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Four quarters plus four triples is greater than one. Apparently one quarter plus a triple equals a quarter or something like that but doesn't anyone know the answer?

That's just because your "I I-I-I" notation was distracting.

The measure you're asking about (m.18) is in two voices; in this case, one in each hand. For each separate voice, the note values add up to 4/4.

It's actually the exact same thing that happens in the first measure of the piece. There are a total of 8 eighth notes, a half note, and 2 quarters. But that's combining the notes from two separate voices.

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I had no idea that was what you meant. I thought you just meant it was uninteresting because the same thing kept happening.And really I thought the IIIIII.... and your saying "triples" (which isn't really a term) meant you were either kidding or mildly impaired at the moment.

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Originally Posted By: Derulux

That, and the scene where he forces the players to practice without music. Two of my favorite scenes.

This scene ("too many notes") is one of my faves too, and I often use the phrase about other things including as a metaphor for things having nothing to do with music.

I don't remember that other scene. BTW I'm sure he didn't really make them play without music, just without the score.

My other favorite scene: When he and Salieri meet, and he plays back Salieri's march immediately by memory but not without dissing and 'correcting' it. Great lines in it:"That doesn't really work, does it?""And the rest is just the same, isn't it."

My other favorite scene: When he and Salieri meet, and he plays back Salieri's march immediately by memory but not without dissing and 'correcting' it. Great lines in it:"That doesn't really work, does it?""And the rest is just the same, isn't it."

If that scene really did occur, then Figaro's most famous aria in Le nozze di Figaro was just Wolfie's improvement on Salieri's little march......

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When the arpeggios start, Mozart has a quarter followed by a triple four times in the measure.

I I-I-I I I-I-I I I-I-I I I-I-I

I'm not sure what all this I I-I-I- (etc.) means. If you are considering that the "arpeggios start" at measure 18, nothing could be more strictly regular.

In the right hand : - beat one : quarter note, - beat two : sixteenth rest plus three sixteenths, (equalling one quarter note) - beat three : quarter note, - beat four : sixteenth rest plus three sixteenths, (equalling one quarter note) = total of four beats, each beat the equivalent of four sixteenths or one quarter, however you wish to count it.

In the left hand : - beat one : sixteenth rest plus three sixteenths (equalling one quarter note)- beat two : quarter note, - beat three : sixteenth rest plus three quarter notes (equalling one quarter note) - beat four : quarter note = total of four beats, each beat the equivalent of four sixteenths or one quarter, however you wish to count it.

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Originally Posted By: MarkAW

Why aren't the 16th notes triplets?

"Triplets" aren't just any 3 note group; they're when the notes have a different length than the indicated note value.

Like, if three 16th notes were a triplet, all together they'd be only as long as two regular 16th notes, i.e. the notes would be played a little quicker. And that's the usual thing: the 3 notes of the triplet are played in the same length of time as 2 notes of that value would usually be played. (Sometimes the 3 notes have the length of 4 usual notes, but that's much less common.)

Here, the 3 notes you're talking about are just regular 16th notes. The fact that it's "3 notes" doesn't at all make them triplets.

Heck you chaps ... my nose was so put out of joint by theMozart movie ... so much so, that I walked out after 20 minutes of viewing ... but then you chaps are cowboys.

My mind's eye picture of music of the genius was totally out of kilter with the bizarre coquetish scenes ... Salierigave me the pip ... sometimes in nightmares I schock to the thought that it was he who wrote the Mozart masterpieces.

It's good to wake up to the reality that Wolfie is still around and giving us a chune.

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