#raspberrypi IRC Log

IRC Log for 2013-05-31

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Logs @ http://srv.datagutt1.com <> Channel Rules: http://alturl.com/jc97e <>'[17:15]* Set by IT_Sean!~Ult_Ubunt@applefritter/IRCStaff/UltimateMacUser1 on Thu Mar 21 17:59:24 CET 2013[17:15]* ChanServ sets mode +o IT_Sean[17:17]* Alfihar (~Yuuka@home.siberios.com) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[17:18]* cheasee (~cheasee@86.59.106.188) has joined #raspberrypi[17:21]* andrei_chiffa (~andrei_ch@AStrasbourg-551-1-56-31.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[17:21]* kd_ (~kd@99-127-92-61.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: .)[17:22]* phorce1 (~gvl2@pdpc/supporter/active/phorce1) Quit (Read error: Operation timed out)[17:23]* Alfihar (~Yuuka@home.siberios.com) has joined #raspberrypi[17:24]* DexterLB (~dex@46.10.53.86) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:24]* bts__ (~bartek@81.219.209.56) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:25]* mike_t (~mike@80.234.114.136) has joined #raspberrypi[17:27]* oldtopman (~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman) has joined #raspberrypi[17:29]* DexterLB (~dex@46.10.53.86) has joined #raspberrypi[17:29]<Darkwell> hello folks[17:29]<Schnuws> elu[17:29]<Darkwell> anyone been doing any own chassis to the raspberry ?[17:30]<Schnuws> one in paper...[17:30]<Darkwell> been playing around with different designs on mine in wood[17:30]<Schnuws> cool =D[17:30]<Darkwell> im doing a lot of hobbyist carving so i though why nt =)[17:31]<Darkwell> not really satisfied yet with it[17:31]<Schnuws> why not? =)[17:31]* NIN101 (~NIN@p5DD2AC7D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #raspberrypi[17:31]<Darkwell> had bad wood plates[17:31]<Schnuws> aha[17:31]<Darkwell> found soe pieces outdors[17:31]* violet-rpi (~quassel@laptoptina.broker.freenet6.net) has joined #raspberrypi[17:32]<Darkwell> afrer half the pieace on top of the raspberry there was cracks on the lpate...[17:32]<Darkwell> n[17:32]<Schnuws> =([17:32]<Darkwell> tries super glue bui never got right hehe[17:33]<Darkwell> so over toi next plate(s)[17:33]<dagerik> okay got arch running. how do i proceed to play videos.[17:33]<Schnuws> Well, worth the time if it turns out nice! ^^[17:33]<Darkwell> the idea of the chassis is to have to retty thin wood plates[17:34]<Darkwell> carve out the places where the network socket, usb and coax sockets are at least[17:35]<Darkwell> so the plate is geting as close tot he board as possible and still give air to cool the chips[17:35]<Encrypt> Darkwell, Somebody already made a wood case for the Pi...[17:35]<Darkwell> any pics ?[17:35]<Schnuws> raspberrypi.org[17:35]* mike_t (~mike@80.234.114.136) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:35]<Schnuws> the forum[17:35]<Darkwell> oh ok[17:36]<Encrypt> http://elinux.org/RPi_Cases[17:36]* pecorade (~pecorade@host245-92-dynamic.247-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #raspberrypi[17:36]<Schnuws> or that one[17:36]<Darkwell> ill check[17:36]<Schnuws> I really, Really! Want a laser cutter and a 3d printer[17:37]* esing (~esing@unaffiliated/esing) has joined #raspberrypi[17:37]* VitaBushido (~avem@unaffiliated/avem) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[17:37]<maxinux> grrr they claim my girlfriends case is a 'makerbot' case[17:37]<maxinux> it was deisnged by one person who would NEVER do anything with a makerbot[17:37]* VitaBushido (~avem@unaffiliated/avem) has joined #raspberrypi[17:37]<Darkwell> ok those cases seems "big"[17:37]<Darkwell> mines nly 1 cm thick[17:38]* arcanescu (925706ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.146.87.6.239) has joined #raspberrypi[17:38]<Schnuws> maxinux: who claims?[17:38]<maxinux> that wiki page[17:38]<Darkwell> actyally the usb and netwoork sockets are the widest ponts in the design[17:38]* kd_ (~kd@99-127-92-61.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi[17:38]<maxinux> i just requested an account to clarify that :)[17:38]<Schnuws> =)[17:38]<maxinux> it also links to the old outdated part[17:38]<maxinux> not the new one[17:38]<maxinux> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:30572[17:39]<Darkwell> its big[17:39]<Darkwell> =)[17:39]<Schnuws> cool designs ^^[17:39]<Darkwell> im hand carving[17:39]<Schnuws> well, my dream case would be an old snes ^^[17:39]<Darkwell> cool[17:40]* DarkByD3sign (~DarkByD3s@90.207.223.234) has joined #raspberrypi[17:40]<Schnuws> can't find any cheap ones though =([17:40]<Darkwell> the aim for me is to have th casing in such way i can put it in the pocket[17:40]<Darkwell> without harming anything[17:40]<Schnuws> Isnt the wood kind of "scratch" sensitive?[17:40]<Darkwell> and i have to have3 it small[17:41]<Darkwell> if you dont work it up yes[17:41]<maxinux> ohh i should print one of those cases in 3d printable wood[17:41]<maxinux> thanks forf the idea[17:41]<Darkwell> once everyting is as i want it[17:41]<Schnuws> you can 3d print in wood?! O.O![17:41]<Darkwell> you put no varnish etc[17:41]* VitaBushido (~avem@unaffiliated/avem) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[17:41]<IT_Sean> 3D printable wood?[17:41]<IT_Sean> o_O[17:41]<maxinux> yes[17:41]<maxinux> 3d printable wood[17:42]<Darkwell> np[17:42]<IT_Sean> Have you been licking toads?[17:42]* VitaBushido (~avem@unaffiliated/avem) has joined #raspberrypi[17:42]<Schnuws> liquefied wood ? o.o[17:42]<maxinux> http://www.makergeeks.com/wo3dprfild3.html[17:42]<Darkwell> i lkearn wod carvifrom my granddad[17:42]<Darkwell> leart oorrng[17:42]<Darkwell> sorry, interference with the keyboard, learnt woodcarving from my granddad[17:42]<Schnuws> seems ungodly[17:43]<maxinux> http://www.lulzbot.com/?q=products/laywoo-d3-wood-filament-3mm[17:43]* bogusk101 (~bogusk101@107-202-109-218.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi[17:43]<Schnuws> the printable wood, not the carving :P[17:43]<Darkwell> lol[17:43]<maxinux> http://www.lulzbot.com/sites/default/files/styles/uc_product_full/public/p/newimages/2013/01/DSC_0085.JPG?itok=VHyAhzn3[17:43]<Darkwell> well the carving has saved a lot of money for me personally[17:44]<Schnuws> but, time? =P[17:44]<Darkwell> not only carved wood[17:44]<Darkwell> time it takes yes[17:44]<Darkwell> but you get better by time[17:44]<Darkwell> a comlex thing as cloning high precision parts takes a little more time[17:44]* pecorade (~pecorade@host245-92-dynamic.247-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[17:44]<Darkwell> but say a button for a celphone etc[17:44]<Darkwell> it takes one hour[17:45]<maxinux> why not 3d print it? :D[17:45]<Darkwell> or two depending of the condition of the template i have[17:45]<Schnuws> cuz everyone dosnt have a really expensive 3d printer =([17:45]<maxinux> 400 bux?[17:45]<Schnuws> really?[17:45]<Darkwell> because its cheaper with free wood or plastic parts and knives and carving tools i got[17:45]<maxinux> if you source the parts and build it yourself, yes[17:45]* bogusk101 (~bogusk101@107-202-109-218.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[17:45]* tektsu (~Adium@wsip-174-79-34-244.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #raspberrypi[17:45]<Schnuws> in europe?[17:45]<maxinux> its been done for under 300[17:45]<maxinux> in eu[17:45]<Schnuws> ._. source parts and build it yourself[17:45]<Schnuws> ...[17:46]<Darkwell> there is nothing you cant make with a bunc of files and carving tools[17:46]<Schnuws> can you make a 3d printer? ;D[17:46]<Darkwell> yes[17:46]<Darkwell> if i have to[17:46]<maxinux> of course he can make a 3d printer with wood[17:46]<Schnuws> carving and magic?[17:46]<Darkwell> i made my own lathe[17:46]<maxinux> http://www.thefrankes.com/wp/?p=2617 has one udner 300 dollar build[17:46]<Darkwell> i dont really need more[17:46]<maxinux> you have to add motors of course[17:46]<Darkwell> yes[17:47]<Schnuws> but calibration[17:47]<Schnuws> seems hard[17:47]<Darkwell> tood from a tape recorder[17:47]<Schnuws> as hell[17:47]<Darkwell> took[17:47]<maxinux> though there is a reprap that has built its own steppers[17:47]<Darkwell> calibrating a lathe ?[17:47]<Darkwell> are you kidding me ? =)[17:47]<Schnuws> a 3d printer[17:47]<Darkwell> ah ok[17:47]<Darkwell> well[17:47]<Darkwell> those cnc is shit[17:47]<maxinux> 3d printer calibration is all about making the head perpendicular to the bed[17:47]<Darkwell> if you ask me[17:47]* Darkwell was kicked from #raspberrypi by IT_Sean[17:47]* Darkwell (~Darkwell@unaffiliated/phantom-x) has joined #raspberrypi[17:47]<maxinux> its not as bad as it sounds[17:47]<Darkwell> sorry for swearing[17:48]<maxinux> unacceptable, you leave now :)[17:48]<Darkwell> well if you are a toolmaker[17:48]<Darkwell> doing high precision is not automated[17:48]<Darkwell> unless the buyer doesnt demand that good precision[17:48]<Darkwell> you can do with a cnc or 3d printer[17:49]* VitaBushido (~avem@unaffiliated/avem) Quit (Quit: I quit)[17:49]* ukscone (~Adium@cpe-24-193-113-179.nyc.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[17:49]* bogusk101 (~bogusk101@107-202-109-218.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi[17:49]* VitaBushido (~avem@unaffiliated/avem) has joined #raspberrypi[17:49]<Darkwell> the higher precision you require the longer time it takes, or if its quick, its expensive[17:49]<Schnuws> is it hard to build a cnc machine?[17:49]<Darkwell> nah[17:50]<Darkwell> i think you can make a decent oone for 1000 bucks[17:50]<Darkwell> what you need is good rods and bearing(s)[17:50]<SpeedEvil> define CNC[17:50]<Schnuws> a computer who builds something for me?[17:51]<Darkwell> and the rodwith the spiral ( excuse i lack the english name for it ) should be the important part altogether with the bering for it[17:51]<Schnuws> Im not sure what Im talking about[17:51]<SpeedEvil> a CNC that can cut expanded polystyrene will be somewhat different to one that can do tungsten[17:51]* neilr (~neilr@54.25.187.81.in-addr.arpa) Quit ()[17:51]* satellit_e (~satellit@72.0.185.15) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[17:51]<Darkwell> because that wone sotgether with the rack that moces your working part(s) is the ones detering the precision(s)[17:51]<Schnuws> I'm a first year engineering student who wants to learn everything. cnc seems fun[17:51]<Schnuws> how can I learn? ^^[17:51]<SpeedEvil> Google DIY CNC[17:51]* satellit_e (~satellit@72.0.185.15) has joined #raspberrypi[17:52]<SpeedEvil> and see what pops up[17:52]<Darkwell> if you want to uild an automated factoring machine[17:52]<maxinux> zen toolworks[17:52]<maxinux> like 600 bux[17:52]<maxinux> and available on amazon[17:52]<Darkwell> i would suggest you to build a flastic cutter achine[17:52]<Darkwell> tos tart with[17:52]<Darkwell> so you can have minimal backlash[17:52]<Darkwell> plastic cutter[17:53]<Schnuws> a laser cutter?[17:53]<Darkwell> there are several ways to build such. you could have a laser ys to avoid backlash from physical inertian on the working piece[17:53]<IT_Sean> oooh... lasers![17:53]<SpeedEvil> something that can machine expanded polystyrene[17:53]<SpeedEvil> for use with lost foam casting[17:54]<Darkwell> if you are old school you could make one from heatwire[17:54]<IT_Sean> the smell from that is biblical, though. >.<[17:54]* VitaBushido (~avem@unaffiliated/avem) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[17:54]<Darkwell> but there you got the problem with precision since when you move the plate against the wire it will slack back a bit until the pstic melts away[17:54]* Jevermeister (~Jevermeis@unaffiliated/jever) has joined #raspberrypi[17:55]<IT_Sean> lasers ftw.[17:55]<Schnuws> idd, lasers ftw[17:55]<Darkwell> i tend to do things manually anyways[17:55]<Schnuws> manual is sooo last century! robots <3[17:55]<Darkwell> watch compare , work watch compare work watch compare....... smile[17:56]* VitaBushido (~avem@unaffiliated/avem) has joined #raspberrypi[17:56]<Darkwell> yes[17:56]* user82 (~user82@unaffiliated/user82) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[17:56]<Darkwell> but i want to master the art of making any part(s) first[17:56]<Schnuws> would be cool =D[17:56]<Darkwell> try to ask someone to make a decen propeller for an airplane completely with a 3d printer[17:57]<SpeedEvil> 'any part' is impossible[17:57]<Darkwell> impossible is snothing hehehe[17:57]<Schnuws> do airplane use propellers these days?[17:57]<IT_Sean> ...[17:57]<SpeedEvil> some do[17:57]<Darkwell> hobbyists does[17:57]<IT_Sean> did you really just ask that?[17:57]<Schnuws> ... no?[17:57]<SpeedEvil> and jets do have propellprs[17:57]<Darkwell> turbines[17:58]<SpeedEvil> they are pretty similar[17:58]<Darkwell> some airplanes do have propellers still[17:58]<SpeedEvil> plus, high bypass[17:58]<SpeedEvil> turbofanny goodness.[17:58]<Darkwell> think using jet on short range travels is a bit overkill[17:59]<Darkwell> hmm[17:59]<Darkwell> you gave me an idea[17:59]* andrei_chiffa (~andrei_ch@AStrasbourg-551-1-56-31.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #raspberrypi[17:59]<Schnuws> so, planes still use propellers[17:59]<Schnuws> I feel stupid[17:59]<Darkwell> i think ill make a turbine[17:59]<Darkwell> jsut bought a boat[18:00]<Darkwell> so could build a turbine to have on the smaller vessel[18:00]<SpeedEvil> Darkwell: shaft jet?[18:00]<Darkwell> as hovercraft[18:00]<SpeedEvil> or you mean water[18:00]* _cheney (~cheney@nat.sierrabravo.net) has joined #raspberrypi[18:00]<Darkwell> air turbine for small a hovercraft[18:00]<IT_Sean> ... good luck with that.[18:00]* IT_Sean rolls his eyes[18:01]<SpeedEvil> probably a bad idea[18:01]<Darkwell> got to get a smaller vessel to get to a from the boat =)[18:01]<Darkwell> already build a hovercraft once[18:01]<SpeedEvil> turbine is a poor match for the demands of a hovercraft[18:01]<Darkwell> but not with a tubine[18:01]* andrei_chiffa (~andrei_ch@AStrasbourg-551-1-56-31.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[18:01]<dagerik> why am i unable to install firefox on arch.[18:01]<SpeedEvil> unless it's a shaft turbine and going to a big prop[18:01]<dagerik> im using lxde[18:02]<Darkwell> the idea i want is ti have 3 turbines to have the gyro effekt as stabilizer[18:02]<Darkwell> so having 3 on same fram to stabilize any torque[18:02]* andrei_chiffa (~andrei_ch@AStrasbourg-551-1-56-31.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #raspberrypi[18:04]* bogusk101 (~bogusk101@107-202-109-218.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: bogusk101)[18:04]<Darkwell> o sorry[18:04]<Darkwell> i dodnt mean turbine to make the hovercraft fo forward, but ti have it to blow air into the airbed[18:05]* Redostrike (~Redostrik@94-226-129-7.access.telenet.be) has joined #raspberrypi[18:06]<Darkwell> hmm[18:06]* Jinx (~Jinx@unaffiliated/jinx) has joined #raspberrypi[18:06]* EastLight (~s@0544cea9.skybroadband.com) has joined #raspberrypi[18:06]<Darkwell> hmm[18:06]* robscomputer (~robscompu@nat/yahoo/x-xhzbuvvchqmriwtk) has joined #raspberrypi[18:07]* VitaBushido (~avem@unaffiliated/avem) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[18:07]* Protux (~Protux@abo-154-129-68.bdx.modulonet.fr) has joined #raspberrypi[18:07]* darkPassenger (~maxime@unaffiliated/darkpassenger) has joined #raspberrypi[18:07]* Protux (~Protux@abo-154-129-68.bdx.modulonet.fr) Quit (Max SendQ exceeded)[18:08]<SpeedEvil> unless it's a turbofan. that is hideously inefficient[18:08]<Darkwell> http://www.gizmag.com/mitsubishi-air-lubrication-system/21196/[18:08]<Darkwell> damn someone already done this =)[18:08]<Darkwell> I was thinking about tis while thinking on the hovercraft[18:09]<Darkwell> another thing ; if you pump very much microbubbles[18:09]<Darkwell> you can actually sink a ship with it[18:10]* Gethiox (~gethiox@host-2-121.24.net.pl) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:10]<IT_Sean> What has that got to do with anything?[18:10]<darkPassenger> {blow} 6f385a7a55583938794a72756c756870316462664b79575865764448715165364c5a785a473158726875536e7a6258665743507773786d76344938436565463366784c4c6d4f4c4837462f300a6f71416e706c525172474379526c4d2b745855473572716e704b45485759337155336c456d5a2b59376655454855454a4a5a3942734f61514f656c66485a56795a3268540a[18:10]<IT_Sean> darkPassenger?[18:11]<darkPassenger> {blow} 6c36636a6b30323768363038596178385463654d774d795944684a323843735470712f303357496463454a34736a4a654a2f7043456e7a71506c303032375336415179786e6c6750743456700a593045330a[18:11]* darkPassenger was kicked from #raspberrypi by IT_Sean[18:11]* bogusk101 (~bogusk101@107-202-109-218.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi[18:12]* Gethiox (~gethiox@host-2-121.24.net.pl) has joined #raspberrypi[18:13]<dagerik> guys. the rasp dosnt fill the entire screen. theres a black frame around. also, the charatxers are very "pixly". using lxde[18:13]<Darkwell> heh IT_Sean jsut my mind going throw different building projects,[18:13]* FR^2 (~frquadrat@2001:41d0:2:842d::cafe) Quit (Quit: Connection reset by peer)[18:13]<IT_Sean> Is this on HDMI, or composite, dagerik?[18:13]<dagerik> IT_Sean: HDMI[18:13]* Jayneil (~jayneil@12.231.120.253) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[18:13]<IT_Sean> Overscan settings?[18:13]<dagerik> say what[18:14]<IT_Sean> your video / overscan settings... Have you checked them.[18:14]<dagerik> no[18:14]<IT_Sean> Could be an issue there.[18:14]<IT_Sean> No idea where they are in lxde, though. Sorry.[18:14]* darkPassenger (~maxime@unaffiliated/darkpassenger) has joined #raspberrypi[18:14]<darkPassenger> sorry about earlier,[18:15]<IT_Sean> No prob[18:15]<IT_Sean> What was that? I'm just curious.[18:15]<Darkwell> yeah sounds like overscan settings could be fixing it[18:15]<darkPassenger> it's a blowfish encryption script[18:15]<IT_Sean> Ahh.[18:15]* heathkid (~heathkid@unaffiliated/heathkid) has joined #raspberrypi[18:15]<IT_Sean> Please do not run it in here. :)[18:15]<darkPassenger> of course :p[18:15]<Darkwell> darkPassenger, is it base64 there to ?[18:16]<darkPassenger> yea[18:16]<Darkwell> darkPassenger, tries otrlib ?[18:16]<Darkwell> tried[18:16]<darkPassenger> what I was saying is : for those you want to use dropbox, copy your dropbox dir on the pi and bit torrent sync it[18:16]<SpeedEvil> what's the point of using bit torrent?[18:17]<Triffid_Hunter> yah, how many boxes is that dir synced between?[18:17]<Redostrike> dagerik http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Big_black_borders_around_small_image_on_HD_monitors[18:17]<Darkwell> dropbox and torrent ? =)[18:18]<Darkwell> using downoload finished script and sync it ? =)[18:18]* heathkid|2 (~heathkid@unaffiliated/heathkid) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[18:18]<Redostrike> so you can add torrent files anywhere and they start downloading?[18:18]<darkPassenger> lol no[18:18]* NIN101 (~NIN@p5DD2AC7D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:18]<darkPassenger> no no no[18:18]<Redostrike> or download them to dropbox?[18:18]<Darkwell> Redostrike, yeah that works to[18:18]<Darkwell> using rtorrent it is simple[18:18]<darkPassenger> bit torrent sync is like dropbox with no limit since its hosted on your machines[18:19]<Redostrike> oh[18:19]<Redostrike> thas like sugarsync[18:19]<darkPassenger> but its so simple to setup ,[18:19]<darkPassenger> everything is encrypted too[18:19]<Darkwell> darkPassenger, what client(s9 DO YOU USE THEN ?[18:19]<Redostrike> dropbox can be encrypted to[18:19]<darkPassenger> the only downside is that the sync is slower since it goes through two layers[18:19]<Darkwell> sorry for caps[18:19]<Redostrike> pgp[18:20]* rostam (~zartoosh@nat/cisco/x-vktxrilveqzbtphh) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[18:20]* onder` (~onder@24.244.89.228) has joined #raspberrypi[18:20]<IT_Sean> hey, darkPassenger, i've been meaning to ask you... is your username a Dexter reference?[18:20]<darkPassenger> yeah absolutely , IT_Sean[18:20]<IT_Sean> Niiiice.[18:20]<IT_Sean> :D[18:20]<darkPassenger> haha[18:20]<Darkwell> lol[18:21]* heathkid (~heathkid@unaffiliated/heathkid) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[18:21]<darkPassenger> I havnt followed much after the trinity killer[18:21]<darkPassenger> but ill get back to it sooner or later :P[18:21]<Redostrike> sure darkPassenger thats ok but dropbox is integrated with so many other software packages so why botter?[18:21]<Darkwell> what about rsync and rdiff ?[18:21]<darkPassenger> Redostrike: you can't really use dropbox on the pi..[18:21]<Redostrike> sure you can[18:22]<darkPassenger> Darkwell: I havnt tried either of those, i found btsync to be the simplest setup as it uses a web gui on localhost:port[18:22]<Darkwell> rsync is pretty simple and cyouc an run it over ssh to[18:22]<Darkwell> sync even[18:23]<darkPassenger> Redostrike: are you talking about python-ing your way in with the API ?[18:23]* dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[18:23]* KiltedPi (KiltedPi@host-78-151-120-135.as13285.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[18:23]* NIN101 (~NIN@p5DD2AC7D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #raspberrypi[18:23]<darkPassenger> Redostrike: or did you apt-get :P[18:23]<Redostrike> nah there was some 3rd party website that lets you sync it[18:24]<Darkwell> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rsync[18:24]* phorce1 (~gvl2@pdpc/supporter/active/phorce1) has joined #raspberrypi[18:24]* rostam (~zartoosh@nat/cisco/x-rcywpqibexntnnqg) has joined #raspberrypi[18:24]<darkPassenger> oh ok[18:25]* DubLo7 (~Adium@24-236-215-248.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[18:25]<darkPassenger> well it works ok for me , I wanted to share since its not much complicated to setup and easy to run compared to other solution like ownCloud with massive interface[18:25]<Darkwell> you can combine rdiff and rsync if you need to update files tec[18:25]<Darkwell> etc[18:26]<Darkwell> ok[18:26]<darkPassenger> rdiff and rsync, i heard a bit about those but i didnt try any[18:26]<darkPassenger> all i know about rsync its that its been used in other sharing / sync application[18:26]<darkPassenger> as if its some kind of protocol[18:27]<Redostrike> hmm[18:27]<Redostrike> https://github.com/andreafabrizi/Dropbox-Uploader[18:27]<Redostrike> this looks promesing[18:27]<Darkwell> i used dropbox to put .torrent files in it , and the rtorrent client on my station had a sub directory as a watchdir[18:27]<gildean> doesn't rsync only copy changed/new files by default anyways?[18:27]<Darkwell> so I could tell the machine what to download[18:27]<gildean> and you can add compression to it also[18:27]<Darkwell> from the cellphone[18:27]* VitaBushido (~avem@unaffiliated/avem) has joined #raspberrypi[18:27]<darkPassenger> compressing sound really good..[18:27]<Darkwell> rdiff is a bariant of rsync[18:28]<Darkwell> variant,[18:28]<Darkwell> jsut calculating a delta and apply[18:28]<gildean> rsync -avP /source/path/ /destionation/path/[18:28]* Nemo7 (~nemo@unaffiliated/nemo7) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[18:28]<Redostrike> afk wife needs me :)[18:28]<Darkwell> compine rtorrent rsync and wget =)[18:29]<gildean> add -z for compression if you're doing it over ssh[18:29]* Jevermeister (~Jevermeis@unaffiliated/jever) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[18:30]<darkPassenger> :D[18:31]* Nemo7_ (~nemo@unaffiliated/nemo7) has joined #raspberrypi[18:32]<Darkwell> one could use git , subversion or merculal to m but those are really overkill i think =)[18:32]<darkPassenger> yeah[18:32]<Darkwell> damn i need to fix my typing/keybaord[18:32]<darkPassenger> get a mech keyboard[18:32]<darkPassenger> :P[18:33]* Jevermeister 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satellit_e (~satellit@72.0.185.15) Quit (Ping timeout: 262 seconds)[18:40]* Yachtsman (~Yachtsman@173.7.63.178) has joined #raspberrypi[18:40]* mgottschlag (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:42]* satellit_e (~satellit@72.0.185.15) has joined #raspberrypi[18:44]* _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable237.145-19-135.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:46]* aphadke (~Adium@c-71-198-6-18.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[18:46]* xzf (~xzf@agv73.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) has joined #raspberrypi[18:46]* _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable237.145-19-135.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi[18:47]* rk[fishing] (~rak@cpe-76-189-227-224.neo.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: MOVING TO COLUMBUS!!!)[18:47]* Encrypt (~Chuck-nor@AMontsouris-553-1-64-155.w92-151.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #raspberrypi[18:47]* SgrA (~sgra@gateway/tor-sasl/sgra) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:48]<Darkwell> darkPassenger why not jsut register a free dyndns service ?[18:48]<Darkwell> then relay everything from one machine[18:48]<Darkwell> using a pi for this is perfect i think since the coordinating machine doesnt have to have much itself[18:49]* bogusk101 (~bogusk101@107-202-109-218.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: bogusk101)[18:50]<darkPassenger> Yeah but it doesnt encrypt the traffic[18:50]<Encrypt> Free hl ! :p[18:51]<Darkwell> thinking myself having the pi regulating my wifi by having a nfc sensor through gpio , and a relay that can put on/off the wifi given the nfc sensor[18:51]<Darkwell> yes you can encrypt traffic[18:51]<Darkwell> vpn doesnt automatically mean good encryption either[18:52]<Darkwell> once you have a server/relay machine cordinating things you are the director of what to run on it[18:52]<dagerik> can i start X from a ssh session? i want to just boot and control everything from ssh[18:52]<Darkwell> yes[18:52]<Darkwell> you exprt the display through ssh[18:52]<dagerik> how[18:52]<Darkwell> its old knowledge[18:52]<darkPassenger> lol[18:52]<darkPassenger> ancient[18:52]<Darkwell> hehe[18:53]<Darkwell> vpn is not what you need to do what you do[18:53]<Darkwell> vpn is a bit overkill[18:53]<Darkwell> its more suiting a larger company that cant manage details for their staff[18:54]<Darkwell> in your ssh config for the sshd you can tell if you want to allow X11 forwarding[18:55]<darkPassenger> lol im confused[18:55]<Darkwell> also ssh allows you to tunnel tcp traffic through the ssh server given that the sshd doent deny it[18:56]<darkPassenger> me and some people want to encrypt traffic headed towards each other and then into a out-of-country vpn[18:56]<Darkwell> have you tried vnc anytime ?[18:56]<darkPassenger> no[18:56]<Encrypt> darkPassenger, Which kind of traffic?[18:56]<Darkwell> ok so you never seen the putty with ssh tunneling the vnc[18:56]<Encrypt> All kind?[18:57]* aphadke (~Adium@c-71-198-6-18.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[18:57]<darkPassenger> Encrypt: all kind minus immoral stuff ?[18:57]<darkPassenger> big data download != immoral stuff[18:57]<Darkwell> i think he means if its tcp and/or udp to[18:57]<Darkwell> not the content[18:57]<darkPassenger> haha[18:58]<darkPassenger> udp/tcp[18:58]<Encrypt> I mean if your goal was to do videoconference, I know good softwares that encrypt the sessions ;)[18:58]<Encrypt> Thanks to ZRTP, OTR, etc...[18:58]<Darkwell> yeah[18:58]<darkPassenger> no its just about everything, because i dont want anybody to spy on my connection[18:58]<Darkwell> OTR for conferencing[18:58]<darkPassenger> i wanna be off the grid[18:58]<dagerik> i issued startx through ssh -X. but only the lxde background shows. where is the other stuff like the bottom task bar.[18:58]<Bushmills> openvpn isn't difficult to set up and works rather well.[18:58]<darkPassenger> kinda[18:59]<Darkwell> encrypting things doesnt get you off the grid[18:59]<Encrypt> OTR for chatting of course ;)[18:59]<Encrypt> You knew what I meant...[18:59]<Bushmills> (well, if you set up your CA for generating certs for signing keys, there's some ... overhead ... with setting up openvpn :) )[19:00]<darkPassenger> because canadian government really want my info as a citizen and i really dont feel like sharing[19:00]<Bushmills> but beats static keys[19:00]<darkPassenger> in principle i just dont trust government[19:00]<Darkwell> maybe you want to go with vpn if you think you are giong to do "everything" but vpn isnt for everyting, but its a good general purpose solution[19:01]<Darkwell> if you wanna go off grid[19:01]* SgrA (~sgra@gateway/tor-sasl/sgra) has joined #raspberrypi[19:01]<darkPassenger> yeah my goal is to go through an out-of-country vpn (probably paid)[19:01]<Darkwell> you should enxrypt locally and send through steganographed files[19:01]<Bushmills> just avoid pptp[19:01]<Darkwell> then it would look like a normal file but has enxrypted data within it[19:02]<darkPassenger> and but there is still that moment where I do my stuff and push it through vpn, i want to encrypt that gap too[19:02]<Darkwell> the advantage with steganography is the playsible deniability[19:02]* KiltedPi (KiltedPi@host-78-151-120-135.as13285.net) has joined #raspberrypi[19:02]<alpha1125> Anyone know of a sensor that will sense water flow? I'm looking to to add it to rip w/some solenoids. I want to detect a leak / burst solenoid.[19:02]<alpha1125> or what would be an appropriate flow sensor.[19:02]<Darkwell> alpha1125, what is your requirements ?[19:03]<darkPassenger> yeah stegano would work...[19:03]* xzf (~xzf@agv73.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) Quit (Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com))[19:03]<alpha1125> Darkwell, micro irrigation system I'm building. so the flow when on is 25L/min max.[19:03]<Darkwell> ah ok[19:03]<Darkwell> narrwos it down a bit[19:04]<IT_Sean> They do make water flow sensors for commercial applications.[19:04]<IT_Sean> There must be one to fit your needs. BUt it'll probably be expensive.[19:04]<Darkwell> i think you coul insert a turbine sensor[19:04]* lahwran (~lahwran@python/site-packages/lahwran) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[19:04]* pkrnj (~pkrnj@bas2-montreal47-1279438707.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #raspberrypi[19:04]<Darkwell> if you cant destroy anything i would do temp fluctuation analysis[19:05]* Meatballs (~Meatballs@unaffiliated/meatballs) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[19:05]* robscomputer (~robscompu@nat/yahoo/x-xhzbuvvchqmriwtk) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[19:05]<SpeedEvil> alpha1125: If you choke the pipe, you can detect cavitation[19:05]* cccyRegeaneWolfe is now known as cccyRegeane_Away[19:05]* lahwran (~lahwran@python/site-packages/lahwran) has joined #raspberrypi[19:06]<Darkwell> if you build one yourself[19:07]<Darkwell> you could use aluminium[19:07]* tanuva (~tanuva@89.204.137.11) has joined #raspberrypi[19:07]<Darkwell> and a solenoid to uild a "speedometer"[19:07]* gazzwi86 (~gazzwi86@213.83.114.162) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:07]* m0spf (~steve@2001:ba8:1f1:f12e::2) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:08]<Darkwell> the aluminium should be a disc with evenly distributed gaps[19:08]<gordonDrogon> alpha1125, adafruit have some water flow sensors.[19:08]<Darkwell> this will give magnetic inertia once it rotatied[19:09]<gordonDrogon> http://www.adafruit.com/products/833[19:09]<gordonDrogon> they have cheaper plastic ones too.[19:09]<ShorTie> micro irrigation ??[19:09]* KiltedPi (KiltedPi@host-78-151-120-135.as13285.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[19:11]<dagerik> how do i launch mplayer on rasp when i am connected through ssh_[19:11]* dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) has joined #raspberrypi[19:12]<Amadiro> dagerik, by typing "mplayer"[19:12]* pindemon (~pindemon@unaffiliated/pindemon) has joined #raspberrypi[19:12]<pindemon> Hi![19:12]* cccyRegeane_Away is now known as cccyRegeaneWolfe[19:13]<pindemon> I'm setting up my Raspberry as a torrent client, I'm using deluge and I sometimes the daemon crashes[19:13]<dagerik> Amadiro: i am testing with a simple terminal and i get this lxterminal:9612): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:[19:13]<Amadiro> dagerik, what did you try to type?[19:14]<ruhju> dagerik: export DISPLAY=:0[19:14]<dagerik> pindemon: i am using rtorrent and it never crashes[19:14]<dagerik> Amadiro: lxterminal[19:14]<Amadiro> dagerik, well, why do you want to start an lxterminal?[19:14]<Amadiro> you already have a terminal via ssh[19:14]<ruhju> why you're trying to use mplayer instead of omxplayer?[19:14]<dagerik> Amadiro: just for testing[19:14]<dagerik> ruhju: mplayer is what i usually use[19:15]<Amadiro> dagerik, well, mplayer on the rpi is only really useful for music[19:15]<Amadiro> dagerik, since it doesn't have an OMX backend (to my knowledge) so it can't play hardware-accelerated video[19:15]<Amadiro> and rpi doesn't implement libvdpau etc[19:15]* m0spf (~steve@2001:ba8:1f1:f12e::2) has joined #raspberrypi[19:15]* KiltedPi (KiltedPi@host-78-151-120-135.as13285.net) has joined #raspberrypi[19:15]<pindemon> dagerik: I was using rtorrent before but I wanted to use a gui to manage it[19:16]<Amadiro> dagerik, so if you want to play video, your choice is really only omxplayer. If you only want to play audio, mplayer is fine, but then you don't need a graphical terminal[19:16]<Darkwell> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rsync[19:16]<Amadiro> dagerik, but just for completeness sake: if you want a graphical terminal to appear locally through ssh, you need to use "ssh -X", if you want it to appear on the raspberry pis X-session, "DISPLAY=:0 lxterm"[19:17]<dagerik> can i use pacman to install omxplayer?[19:17]<wroberts1> anybody try beaglebone black yet?[19:18]<Darkwell> the link is showing info about more than jsut the mflowmeters[19:18]<Amadiro> dagerik, try "pacman -sS omx"[19:19]<dagerik> Amadiro: zero results[19:19]<Amadiro> dagerik, then I guess you do not have it in your repositories.[19:19]* pindemon (~pindemon@unaffiliated/pindemon) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[19:20]<dagerik> Amadiro: is this good? https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=59770[19:21]* Out`Of`Control (~Viper@unaffiliated/outofcontrol/x-1373891) has joined #raspberrypi[19:21]<Amadiro> dagerik, looks okay, try it out, I guess[19:21]<Amadiro> Otherwise you can just build omxplayer from its git repo[19:22]* Phosie (~Sophie@unaffiliated/phosie) Quit (Quit: o/)[19:22]* KiltedPi (KiltedPi@host-78-151-120-135.as13285.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[19:23]* XpineX (~XpineX@2-104-249-182-static.dk.customer.tdc.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[19:25]<Redostrike> back[19:25]* XpineX (~XpineX@2-104-249-182-static.dk.customer.tdc.net) has joined #raspberrypi[19:25]* KiltedPi (KiltedPi@host-78-151-120-135.as13285.net) has joined #raspberrypi[19:26]* qrz7 (~pku@ppp-93-104-148-97.dynamic.mnet-online.de) has joined #raspberrypi[19:26]* aphadke (~Adium@2620:101:8003:200:f146:a8ef:dd1d:92e3) has joined #raspberrypi[19:26]* aphadke (~Adium@2620:101:8003:200:f146:a8ef:dd1d:92e3) has left #raspberrypi[19:26]* mike_t (~mike@80.234.114.136) has joined #raspberrypi[19:28]<Darkwell> hmm fun project would be to build a wter flow meter with ultrasonic probes[19:28]* prg3 (~prg3@chatter.majestik.org) Quit (Excess Flood)[19:29]<Darkwell> you get utrasonic transucers[19:29]<Darkwell> http://www.flowmeters.com/[19:31]* prg3 (~prg3@chatter.majestik.org) has joined #raspberrypi[19:31]* m0spf (~steve@2001:ba8:1f1:f12e::2) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:32]* KiltedPi (KiltedPi@host-78-151-120-135.as13285.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[19:33]* tombrough (~tom@cpc4-newt3-0-0-cust54.newt.cable.virginmedia.com) has left #raspberrypi[19:34]-NickServ- YattaBot-dev!~yatta@80.202.130.140 has just authenticated as you (DataBot)[19:34]* DubLo7 (~Adium@24-236-215-248.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) has joined #raspberrypi[19:37]* _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable237.145-19-135.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:37]* Gashead76 (~Gashead76@adsl-209-30-80-211.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[19:39]* [SkG] (~sconde@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) has joined #raspberrypi[19:40]* trevorman (~tman@unaffiliated/trevorman) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[19:40]* Gashead76 (~Gashead76@adsl-209-30-88-73.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) has joined #raspberrypi[19:41]* _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable237.145-19-135.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi[19:43]* _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable237.145-19-135.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:43]* dreamreal (~jottinge@redhat/dreamreal) Quit (Quit: leaving)[19:44]* Yamba (~Yamba@31.25.23.229) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[19:46]* fredmorcos (~fmorcos@cm56-238-233.liwest.at) has joined #raspberrypi[19:46]<fredmorcos> hi[19:46]<fredmorcos> i am running archlinuxarm with xbmc[19:46]<fredmorcos> if i turn on the pi and tv (hdmi + cec/simplink) at the same time[19:46]<fredmorcos> or the tv before the pi, everything works fine[19:47]* Yamba (~Yamba@31.25.23.229) has joined #raspberrypi[19:47]<fredmorcos> if i turn on the pi and wait until xbmc is started and then turn on the tv, the pi doesn't detect the tv[19:47]* _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable237.145-19-135.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi[19:47]<fredmorcos> so i added hdmi_force_hotplug=1 and hdmi_drive=2 to /boot/config.txt[19:48]<fredmorcos> now things work fine, except that when i turn on my tv after xbmc is started, cec/simplink does not work[19:48]<fredmorcos> does anyone know where the source of this issue could be? so that i can ask/look accordingly?[19:50]<dagerik> the lxdescreen is black. how can i "wake" it up? i only have ssh[19:50]<dagerik> so i cant touch the mouse[19:50]<Redostrike> press space[19:51]* rburton- (~rburton-@pool-96-232-233-50.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) has joined #raspberrypi[19:51]<dagerik> i dont have keyboard attached[19:51]* hyppias (hyppias@5353041A.cm-6-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[19:51]<ruhju> xset s off?[19:51]* DubLo7 (~Adium@24-236-215-248.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[19:51]* Ely_arp (~mark@pD956798D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #raspberrypi[19:51]<dagerik> ruhju: did not help[19:52]* mike_t (~mike@80.234.114.136) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[19:52]* eric_j (~eric@cpe-66-68-148-203.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi[19:52]<Redostrike> you ssh to it with other pc?[19:53]<dagerik> yeah[19:53]<eric_j> can someone point me to the source code of the video driver?[19:53]<Redostrike> dagerik why not install vncserver?[19:53]<dagerik> i wanna keep things simple for now[19:53]<dagerik> i wanna do it the command line way[19:54]<Redostrike> then why do you have lxde?[19:54]<dagerik> to be able to use omxplayer[19:55]* rburton- (~rburton-@pool-96-232-233-50.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Client Quit)[19:55]* tanuva (~tanuva@89.204.137.11) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[19:55]<Encrypt> dagerik, Did you enable Xorg forwarding ?[19:55]<Redostrike> dagerik try xrefresh -display :0[19:56]* Artpicre_ (~Artpicre@vit94-10-78-240-193-57.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #raspberrypi[19:56]* Yamba (~Yamba@31.25.23.229) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[19:57]<ruhju> omxplayer should work without any desktop environments running[19:57]<Redostrike> yeah that too[19:57]* AeroNotix (~xeno@aboq230.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) has joined #raspberrypi[19:57]<Redostrike> but not over ssh without x forwarding[19:57]* Artpicre_ is now known as Artpicre[19:57]<Encrypt> dagerik, By the way, why do you want to stream videos through SSH ?[19:58]* Yamba (~Yamba@31.25.23.229) has joined #raspberrypi[19:58]* teepee (~teepee@p50847734.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[19:58]* teepee (~teepee@p50845C7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #raspberrypi[19:59]* tanuva (~tanuva@89.204.137.11) has joined #raspberrypi[20:01]* _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable237.145-19-135.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:02]* hyppias (hyppias@5353041A.cm-6-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #raspberrypi[20:03]* Encrypt (~Chuck-nor@AMontsouris-553-1-64-155.w92-151.abo.wanadoo.fr) Quit (Quit: Quitte)[20:03]* _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable237.145-19-135.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi[20:05]<Darkwell> what are those 2 sockets on the raspberry 1 behind the lan socket and 1 beside the gpio socket[20:05]* _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable237.145-19-135.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:06]* m0spf (~steve@2001:ba8:1f1:f12e::2) has joined #raspberrypi[20:06]<gordonDrogon> camera and display.[20:06]<dagerik> how else can i play videos other than via ssh[20:07]<gordonDrogon> connect a TV/Monitor and keyboard to it.[20:07]* robscomputer (~robscompu@nat/yahoo/x-solgtlokolxxvhfi) has joined #raspberrypi[20:07]<Darkwell> gordonDrogon, which is which ?[20:07]<Darkwell> dagerik, you could conenct ir sensor to the usb[20:07]<Redostrike> or BT dongle[20:08]<Darkwell> yah works fine to[20:08]<IT_Sean> Darkwell: those are the DSI / CSI connectors. For the Foundation provided Display and Camera modules.[20:08]<gordonDrogon> Darkwell, http://shop.pimoroni.com/blogs/news/7987093-pibow-and-the-camera-module <- You tell me :)[20:08]<Darkwell> nice with BT is that any smartfphone could become your remote[20:08]<Redostrike> or tablet[20:09]* tinti (~tinti@pdpc/supporter/student/tinti) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[20:09]<Redostrike> or other bt enable pc[20:09]<Darkwell> IT_Sean, ok cool[20:09]<Darkwell> maybe i could plug my disply from my old samsung calaxy on it hehe[20:09]<Redostrike> wont work[20:09]<IT_Sean> won't work.[20:09]* Ely_arp (~mark@pD956798D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has left #raspberrypi[20:10]<Darkwell> wrong protocol ?[20:10]<IT_Sean> You'll have to wait for The Foundation to release their display module.[20:10]<IT_Sean> Basically, yeah, wrong protocol.[20:10]<Darkwell> is it controlled from the video chip ?[20:10]<Redostrike> i hope they give us some information about that soon[20:10]* _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable237.145-19-135.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi[20:10]<Redostrike> and i hope we get some choises in inches :p[20:10]* Alfihar (~Yuuka@home.siberios.com) Quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[20:11]<IT_Sean> Redostrike: that is unlikely[20:11]* fredmorcos (~fmorcos@cm56-238-233.liwest.at) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[20:11]<Redostrike> i know[20:11]<Redostrike> but a man can only dream right[20:11]<Darkwell> it could be cool to know more about the video chip do be ale to throw some tasks at it once i dont use the hdmi[20:11]<IT_Sean> Untill we get closer to the release date, it's pretty much an unknown.[20:11]<Redostrike> i understand :)[20:11]<IT_Sean> Darkwell: don't hold your breath. The GPU is very much closed source and hush hush.[20:12]<Darkwell> well[20:12]<Darkwell> people have been able to reverse harder stuff =)[20:12]<gordonDrogon> it's not hush hush as much as "sign here, in blood and we'll give you the docs" ...[20:12]<dagerik> i got no sound when playing video with omxplayer[20:12]<IT_Sean> I do hope someone manages to fully reverse engineer it, but, i'm not banking on it happening any time soon[20:12]<Darkwell> you mean an nda ?[20:13]<IT_Sean> yeah[20:13]<Redostrike> dagerik do you have speaker connected to your pi?[20:13]<Darkwell> jsut to close probable open source problematics[20:13]<ruhju> dagerik, from hdmi?[20:13]<dagerik> i wanna do it the command line waysound is from 3.5mm cable[20:13]<dagerik> sound is from 3.5mm cable[20:14]<Redostrike> connect some headphone to your pi[20:14]<dagerik> speakers are connected to rasp inded[20:14]<Redostrike> ok[20:14]<dagerik> also how do i fullscreen omxplayer[20:14]<Darkwell> i think the samest is to drop the nds about the graphic chips[20:14]<Darkwell> sanest[20:14]-NickServ- YattaBot-dev!~yatta@140.80-202-130.nextgentel.com has just authenticated as you (DataBot)[20:15]<Darkwell> nda even[20:15]<Redostrike> omxplayer -r /path/of/your/file[20:15]* tanuva (~tanuva@89.204.137.11) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[20:16]-NickServ- YattaBot-dev!~yatta@80.202.130.140 has just authenticated as you (DataBot)[20:17]<dagerik> Redostrike: nice.thanks[20:17]<dagerik> now i only need sound[20:17]<ruhju> try omxplayer -o local for the sound[20:17]* m0spf (~steve@2001:ba8:1f1:f12e::2) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[20:17]-NickServ- YattaBot-dev!~yatta@80.202.130.140 has just authenticated as you (DataBot)[20:17]* dreamreal (~jottinge@redhat/dreamreal) has joined #raspberrypi[20:19]<linuxstb> Darkwell: https://github.com/hermanhermitage/videocoreiv/wiki/VideoCore-IV-Programmers-Manual[20:19]* JesseC (~Chumba@wsip-98-175-20-126.br.br.cox.net) has joined #raspberrypi[20:19]<dagerik> ruhju: yeah i got sound.[20:20]<dagerik> ruhju: i do hear annoying sparkling though[20:20]<IT_Sean> HDMI, or analog?[20:20]<dagerik> not HDMI[20:20]<IT_Sean> The analog audio comesouta is not very good.[20:21]* m0spf (~steve@2001:ba8:1f1:f12e::2) has joined #raspberrypi[20:21]<dagerik> wow. the people have low pitched monster sounds. as if the video was sped down.[20:21]* tanuva (~tanuva@89.204.137.11) has joined #raspberrypi[20:22]<Darkwell> thanks linuxstb[20:22]-NickServ- YattaBot-dev!~yatta@80.202.130.140 has just authenticated as you (DataBot)[20:22]* Alfihar (~Yuuka@home.siberios.com) has joined #raspberrypi[20:22]* Alfihar (~Yuuka@home.siberios.com) Quit (Client Quit)[20:23]* Alfihar (~Yuuka@home.siberios.com) has joined #raspberrypi[20:23]* cccyRegeaneWolfe is now known as cccyRegeane_Away[20:23]<ruhju> audio quality seems to vary with different PSUs (http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=37038)[20:24]<alpha1125> gordonDrogon, thanks for the tip on adafruit.[20:25]<Darkwell> linuxstb , has that documentation resulted in any libraries to ?[20:25]* alpha1125 (~alpha1125@198-84-166-153.cpe.teksavvy.com) Quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[20:29]* _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable237.145-19-135.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:31]* alpha080 (~alpha080@117.136.11.86) has joined #raspberrypi[20:32]* _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable237.145-19-135.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi[20:32]* marvin-42 (~alpha080@117.136.11.85) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[20:32]* Ricksl (~ricksl@c-68-39-90-86.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[20:33]-NickServ- YattaBot!~yatta@static.152.149.9.176.clients.your-server.de has just authenticated as you (DataBot)[20:35]* Spiffy (~Spiffy@unaffiliated/spiffy) has joined #raspberrypi[20:35]* alpha080 (~alpha080@117.136.11.86) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[20:38]* hosler (~Daniel@c-75-65-208-79.hsd1.ms.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[20:38]* espiral (~maze@unaffiliated/espiral) Quit (Ping timeout: 259 seconds)[20:40]* espiral (~maze@unaffiliated/espiral) has joined #raspberrypi[20:42]* tanuva (~tanuva@89.204.137.11) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[20:42]* Nimatek (~x@unaffiliated/nimatek) has joined #raspberrypi[20:44]* myndzi (myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e) has joined #raspberrypi[20:44]* g_r_eek (~g_r_eek@78-133-211.adsl.cyta.gr) has joined #raspberrypi[20:45]* kd_ (~kd@99-127-92-61.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: .)[20:45]<linuxstb> Darkwell: Have you looked here? https://github.com/hermanhermitage/videocoreiv[20:45]* hosler (~Daniel@c-75-65-208-79.hsd1.ms.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[20:47]* espiral (~maze@unaffiliated/espiral) Quit (Read error: Operation timed out)[20:48]* violet-rpi_ (~quassel@laptoptina.broker.freenet6.net) has joined #raspberrypi[20:48]<Nimatek> I just tried Arch on the Pi, there are no haskell packages in the repo. Does anyone know the reason why?[20:49]* espiral (~maze@unaffiliated/espiral) has joined #raspberrypi[20:49]* tombrough (~tom@cpc4-newt3-0-0-cust54.newt.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[20:50]* violet-rpi (~quassel@laptoptina.broker.freenet6.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:52]* tanuva (~tanuva@89.204.137.11) has joined #raspberrypi[20:52]* taqutor (uid8051@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ppybaqhghisbinzt) Quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[20:53]* espiral (~maze@unaffiliated/espiral) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[20:54]* DaQatz (~DB@pool-71-161-206-81.burl.east.myfairpoint.net) has joined #raspberrypi[20:54]* Kane (~Kane@150.49.197.77.rev.sfr.net) has joined #raspberrypi[20:54]<Kane> o/[20:54]<dagerik> the sound is too low pitched it seems.[20:54]<dagerik> people have creepy monster movies[20:54]* ka6sox is now known as ka6sox-away[20:55]<JakeSays> Ricksl: ping[20:55]* espiral (~maze@unaffiliated/espiral) has joined #raspberrypi[20:55]<Ricksl> oh hey there[20:56]<Ricksl> what you been up to jake[20:56]<JakeSays> Ricksl: working :([20:56]<Ricksl> Don't you hate it when life takes up all your free time.[20:56]<JakeSays> yes![20:56]<JakeSays> so i broke down and bought a multimeter[20:57]<IT_Sean> WOOT[20:57]<Ricksl> nice, trust me don't bother putting it away or finding a place for it, just leave it on your desk[20:57]<JakeSays> and i was able to get the internal isight camera that i lifted from my macbook to work on my pi. that was fun.[20:57]<IT_Sean> Nice[20:57]<IT_Sean> did it Just Work, or did you have drivers to sort out?[20:59]<Ricksl> I think they are bound as usb devices if I recall my fiddling with bootcamp[20:59]<Ricksl> Btw anyone have a tutorial for reading hex tables?[20:59]<JakeSays> IT_Sean: i had to build the isight firmware tools to get the custom firmware to install on the camera, but after that it just worked.[21:00]<IT_Sean> ahh[21:00]* sjs205 (~sjs205@host81-155-253-168.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[21:00]<JakeSays> for some reason ift isn't in raspian[21:00]<dagerik> the sound is not working here on the video. all i hear is a high pitched hissing sound. i play the video like this omxplayer swap.avi -o local[21:01]* ShorTie (~idiot@unaffiliated/shortie) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:02]* pa (~pa@unaffiliated/pa) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[21:03]* brainwash (~brainwash@unaffiliated/brainwash) Quit (Read error: Operation timed out)[21:03]* Nemo7_ is now known as Nemo7[21:04]<Ricksl> Glad to hear it just worked, I love it when things work after the first or second try.[21:05]<JakeSays> Ricksl: so i have this linsys EA4500 router. it has a 1.2ghz arm, 128mb flash and 128mb ram in it. i'm dying to use it as a controller instead of a router, but none of the alt. firmware projects support marvel SoC's[21:05]<JakeSays> so i downloaded the source for it, and am going to attempt my own kernel[21:05]<Ricksl> Best of luck.[21:05]* jmnoz (~jmn@unaffiliated/setre) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[21:05]<Ricksl> That sounds way over my experience level.[21:06]<JakeSays> i was able to get it to build - just have no idea how to install it. lol[21:07]<JakeSays> Ricksl: you ever mess with PIR's?[21:07]<Ricksl> PIR?[21:07]<JakeSays> passive infrared receiver i think[21:08]<Ricksl> Not really, I have done like remote recievers, don't think they were passive though[21:09]<Ricksl> Yeah no I haven't. sorry[21:09]* brainwash (~brainwash@unaffiliated/brainwash) has joined #raspberrypi[21:10]<gordonDrogon> its relatively easy to connect a PIR to the Pi.[21:10]* eanema (~eanema@67.215.48.194) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:12]<Darkwell> do you need special cams for the cam slot or can you build whatever you like there for the slot ?[21:12]<Ricksl> wanting to make it so you can just use a motion sensor for the mouse[21:12]<ParkerR> -_- just compiled flashrom on my Pi and I don;t even have a use for it. (At least I'm not letting the Pi go to waste, heh)[21:12]* MadeAllUp (~Gen-M@cpc4-haye19-2-0-cust443.17-4.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:12]<ParkerR> *don't[21:13]<JakeSays> Ricksl, gordonDrogon a few years ago i picked up one of these: http://www.halloweenforum.com/halloween-props/86777-radio-shack-talking-pumpkin-insert.html - i want to use the PIR off of it on my pi.[21:13]* suehle (rsuehle@fedora/suehle) Quit (Read error: Operation timed out)[21:14]<Ricksl> Hm might be easy might not, depends on how the pir sensor fires off, some of them made for microcontrollers will just send a voltage when they detect movement.[21:15]* MooseV2 (~MooseV2@67.201.162.46) has joined #raspberrypi[21:15]<Darkwell> if you use motion ( program in linux ) you could use theraspicam[21:15]<JakeSays> i think thats how this one works. it has four wires - red/black (power) and a white and green. the device ties those two together[21:15]* ambv (~ambv@addh172.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) has joined #raspberrypi[21:15]<Darkwell> with a litttle bit of tweaking you can even set ara of interest etc[21:15]* Nimatek (~x@unaffiliated/nimatek) has left #raspberrypi[21:15]* ShorTie (~idiot@unaffiliated/shortie) has joined #raspberrypi[21:15]<Darkwell> jsut no idea abou the raspicam what it requires from the PSU[21:15]<JakeSays> Darkwell: yeah i'm using motion[21:15]<gordonDrogon> JakeSays, Hehe.... https://projects.drogon.net/halloween-pi/[21:15]* nxtec (~tth@cpc1-lanc6-2-0-cust124.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[21:16]* ukscone (~Adium@cpe-24-193-113-179.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi[21:16]<JakeSays> gordonDrogon: ah cool![21:16]<Darkwell> im curious if the raspicam that uses this port im looking at, how much power it requuires[21:16]<gordonDrogon> most of the ones in alarm sensors, etc. need a period of stillness to 'reset', then any IR movement will trigger then.[21:16]* DaQatz (~DB@pool-71-161-206-81.burl.east.myfairpoint.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[21:16]<Darkwell> hope it is less than most usb cams[21:17]<Ricksl> It looks like someone spliced the wire and found that it fires about a 3 volt signal when triggered.[21:17]<Darkwell> what kind of motion do wou want to detect ?[21:17]<gordonDrogon> I'd expect the raspi camera itself to be pretty low-power - mostly because all the hard work is done in the gpu...[21:17]<Darkwell> motion of the device ( accelerometer ) or sens objects moving around from a distance ?[21:18]<Darkwell> one good thing would be to know the specs of the gpu[21:18]<gordonDrogon> do make sure the voltage going into the Pi is no more than 3.3v ...[21:18]<Darkwell> to improve motion to not to make the cpu to check the data to detect motion[21:18]* comradekingu (~comradeki@109.108.219.28) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:18]<Darkwell> legit reason why the specs should be available[21:19]* Jayneil (~jayneil@12.231.120.253) has joined #raspberrypi[21:19]<Darkwell> the machine could be faster if one made some tweaks thanks to the powerful GPU[21:19]<Darkwell> i mean when using motion[21:20]<Darkwell> from what ive read ( yet) the use of motion is a bit laggy in raspberry pi yet[21:21]<Darkwell> so say you want to detect motion and record you might miss the interresting event because of the machine lag[21:21]<Darkwell> hte fastest processng power here is the GPU so when getting video feed that the GPÄU already handles should be the quickest route jsut to check and compare frames in[21:22]* wasutton3 (~will@static-71-251-92-156.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) has joined #raspberrypi[21:22]<Darkwell> i use ultrasonic as proximity sensor for my desk detect[21:22]<wasutton3> does anyone know how to set up a raspi sd card so that it is usable both in windows AND as a bootable os?[21:22]* m8 (~mor@unaffiliated/m8) Quit (Quit: Sto andando via)[21:23]<Darkwell> yes[21:23]<Darkwell> or not[21:23]* comradekingu (~comradeki@109.108.219.28) has joined #raspberrypi[21:23]<Darkwell> maybe try to do as in gentoo , where you have the boot manager ( grub) and able to select what to boot[21:24]* jmnoz (~jmn@unaffiliated/setre) has joined #raspberrypi[21:24]<Darkwell> then you want to have a large sd that contains a partition for each os you want to boot[21:24]<wasutton3> the restriction seems to be that windows will only let you use the first partition. (/dev/sda1 or mmcblkp1 or something like that)[21:25]<Darkwell> the machine with dinwos... is it already booted when you read the sd ?[21:25]<wasutton3> im not trying to boot windows, im trying to just copypaste files to the sd[21:25]<Darkwell> ok i see[21:25]<wasutton3> but windows only uses the first partition on sd cards[21:25]<Darkwell> not really[21:26]<gordonDrogon> make the first partition bigger.[21:26]<wasutton3> and since fat16 is not an option, nor is ext2fs on the windows machines, It has to be fat32[21:26]<Darkwell> but it also depends what file system the sd card is partitioned in[21:26]<Darkwell> yes[21:26]<wasutton3> iirc, the default bootloader points to the first partition (fat16), which then chainloads somehow into the main partition.[21:27]<Darkwell> what are you trying to do ?[21:27]<wasutton3> i'm creating a music player. but i need to copy and paste large music files to the raspberrypi's sd card[21:27]<JakeSays> Ricksl: i'm seeing voltages from 2.3 to just under 5.[21:28]* mgottschlag (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) has joined #raspberrypi[21:28]<Darkwell> wasutton3, and you cant conect the raspberry onto a lan and ftp/scp or whatever suits you files to your machine ?[21:28]<Ricksl> Thats odd, one sec I gotta shower but I have a rough idea of what might be causing that[21:29]<wasutton3> Darkwell, i'd rather not. Its going in a place thats rather far from the nearest network connection[21:29]<wasutton3> so right now its sda1 = fat32 and large for data storage, sda2 56mb fat16 containing cmdline and the .img, and sda3 is the / partition. its like the mbr is pointing to the wrong place[21:29]<Darkwell> no bt dongle ?[21:29]<wasutton3> Darkwell, no[21:29]<Darkwell> i see[21:29]* Encrypt (~Chuck-nor@AMontsouris-553-1-64-155.w92-151.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #raspberrypi[21:30]<Darkwell> i would have a usb memstick with the files on[21:30]<Darkwell> and forget about the sd[21:30]<wasutton3> i thought about that, but that incurs extra traffic on the usb bus, which then really messes with the DAC[21:30]<Darkwell> ?[21:31]<Darkwell> are you saying that you cant play music that way ?[21:31]<wasutton3> i'm using an external dac. AFAIK the sd card is not on the same bus as the usb controller[21:31]* ambv (~ambv@addh172.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) Quit (Quit: sys.exit(0))[21:31]<wasutton3> Darkwell, no, it works. I just get pops and clicks and all kinds of distortion[21:31]<Darkwell> weak PSU then i guess[21:31]<wasutton3> my tests show the only thing that can be on the USB bus is the DAC[21:32]<Darkwell> my guess its not the bus traffic[21:32]<Darkwell> its the voltage drop[21:32]<wasutton3> Darkwell, no, its a bench PSU that has a microusb on it[21:32]<wasutton3> the osilloscope shows no voltage drop, and very little ripple[21:32]<Darkwell> and not voltage drop ?[21:32]<wasutton3> <1mV[21:32]<Darkwell> hmm[21:33]<Darkwell> does the pop sound predicable ?[21:33]<wasutton3> Darkwell, no,[21:33]<wasutton3> its an Asynchronous DAC[21:33]<Darkwell> ive had same prob for a webcam and the fix was a patch that filteered away the pops[21:34]<wasutton3> Darkwell, i'm supposedly running the latest everything[21:34]<wasutton3> rasbian[21:34]<Darkwell> i see[21:34]<Darkwell> maybe its leak voltage between the usb ports =)[21:34]<dagerik> the sound is not working here on the video. all i hear is a high pitched hissing sound. i play the video like this omxplayer swap.avi -o local[21:35]* xCP23x (~xCP23x@149.241.236.103) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:35]<Darkwell> i mean much is tripped off on the board to get it cheap[21:35]<wasutton3> possible, hence why im going for the SD card[21:35]* g_r_eek (~g_r_eek@78-133-211.adsl.cyta.gr) Quit (Quit: g_r_eek)[21:36]<Darkwell> ok I understand your prob[21:36]* g_r_eek (~g_r_eek@78-133-211.adsl.cyta.gr) has joined #raspberrypi[21:36]<Darkwell> how about expanding the partition on the entire sd[21:37]<wasutton3> Darkwell, windows then only sees the first partition (the fat16) which gets mounted /boot. hardly the appropriate place for music files, and the fat16 spec maxes out at 2gb[21:37]<Darkwell> and another thing is to add onto a memstick plug it in then copy on the raspberry pi to its sd[21:37]<wasutton3> which isnt terribly helpful either[21:38]* kd_ (~kd@99-127-92-61.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi[21:38]<gildean> or you could have multiple partitions on the card, one of them as fat32[21:38]<Darkwell> so you could plug the memstick to the raspberry , then copy the files to its sd[21:38]<wasutton3> Darkwell, that is an option, but it requires the user (someone that barely knows how to operate a computer) to get into the pi and shuffle things around[21:38]<Darkwell> nah[21:38]<Darkwell> add udev rules[21:39]<wasutton3> gildean, tried that. windows will only use the first partition on an sd card[21:39]<Darkwell> that detects the stick and automagically copies the files[21:39]<gildean> wasutton3: are you sure you can't mount it manually from disk manager?[21:39]<gildean> i've never actually tried that[21:39]<Darkwell> so if the machine detects a "new" stick[21:39]<Darkwell> it will ask use if they want it to get prepared[21:40]<wasutton3> Darkwell, a decent idea as well. but the question is will it work with ANY usb drive, and will it ONLY copy music files[21:40]<Darkwell> and add whatever id/file to it[21:40]<MooseV2> Yeah, windows is awful for multiple partitions on a flash storage device[21:40]<wasutton3> gildean, nope wont do that[21:40]<wasutton3> even win8 won't do that[21:40]<wasutton3> brb[21:40]<Darkwell> wasutton3, yes if you write the script(s)well[21:41]<Darkwell> first off you create udev rule that detect the stick for you, then write a script that is caled by your udev script to do all the logics you want[21:42]<wasutton3> back[21:42]<wasutton3> Darkwell, well then thats interesting. I think thatll be how it has to be done[21:42]<Darkwell> ive written smoe udev rules for my android telephones with similar needs as you talk about[21:43]<wasutton3> Darkwell, if you have them floating around, Id love to take a look at them to see how you did it[21:43]* eric_j (~eric@cpe-66-68-148-203.austin.res.rr.com) has left #raspberrypi[21:43]<Darkwell> those are pretty simple[21:43]<dagerik> i am able to play mp3 files fine with mplayer. but the sound on videos played with omxplayer is borked. i get different results on different videos.[21:43]<wasutton3> Darkwell, the logic script i can do. I[21:43]<wasutton3> 've just never been very good with udev[21:43]<Darkwell> its jsut the documentation around that has to be gathered and refined =)[21:44]* gryphraff (~harmlessg@adsl-99-54-154-142.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: ThrashIRC v2.9 sic populo comunicated)[21:44]<Darkwell> ok hang on ill check for my example file[21:44]* pa (~pa@unaffiliated/pa) has joined #raspberrypi[21:45]<Darkwell> for my cellphones there are 2 different rules , one to enable the ADB , and another for detecting when the whones are going into slave mode[21:46]<Darkwell> the udev rules are like writing iptables rules almost =)[21:46]<dagerik> sudo amixer cset numid=3 1 gives me "Could not find specified element." help[21:47]<wasutton3> Darkwell, pity im even worse at iptables :P[21:47]<Darkwell> lol[21:47]<Darkwell> ok[21:47]* harris (~harris@unaffiliated/harris) has joined #raspberrypi[21:47]<Darkwell> whicks tart :[21:48]<harris> hey ParkerR[21:48]<Darkwell> udevadm monitor --environment <----- will show you the info about stuff[21:48]<wasutton3> ok[21:48]* brainwash (~brainwash@unaffiliated/brainwash) Quit (Quit: WeeChat)[21:48]<Darkwell> for sintance show what info you get from the usbmemstic stc[21:48]<ParkerR> harris, Hey[21:48]<Darkwell> stc= etc[21:49]* brainwash (~brainwash@unaffiliated/brainwash) has joined #raspberrypi[21:49]<wasutton3> Darkwell, i will have to do that once i get a usb stick to use :P[21:49]<harris> guess what ParkerR[21:49]<ParkerR> What[21:49]<harris> guess[21:49]<ParkerR> I'm not quessing[21:49]<ParkerR> *guessing[21:49]<Darkwell> the file i hve for you to check[21:49]<harris> i got lightdm to show the users on the login page[21:49]<ParkerR> Nice[21:50]<Darkwell> is a slight change of something i found on the web and changedto add special mountpint for my cellphone[21:50]* yorick (~yorick@oftn/member/yorick) has joined #raspberrypi[21:50]<harris> so ParkerR later can you help me set up ssh[21:50]* Christophh (~Christoph@p4FDF409E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Quit: Christophh)[21:50]<ParkerR> harris, sudo raspi-config[21:51]<ParkerR> Enable ssh, reboot[21:51]<ParkerR> Done[21:51]<harris> i cant do it now[21:51]* markbook (~markllama@96.237.148.12) has joined #raspberrypi[21:51]<wasutton3> Darkwell, i think i have found a problem with the udev rule idea[21:51]* ebswift (~ebswift@ppp118-208-131-150.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) has joined #raspberrypi[21:52]<wasutton3> what happens when i run out of space...?[21:53]<Darkwell> http://pastebin.com/2THABwWA[21:53]<Darkwell> ok what prob ?[21:53]<Encrypt> wasutton3, You've no more space on your SD Card ?[21:53]* Hopsy (~Hopsy@unaffiliated/hopsy) Quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/)[21:53]* cheasee_ (~cheasee@62.116.6.189) has joined #raspberrypi[21:53]<wasutton3> Encrypt, no, im talkign if i implement the udev rule and autocopy of music files from usb to sd card, i'll eventually run out of space[21:53]<dagerik> aplay, mpg123 and mplayer plays sound correctly. but omxplayer borks the sound. how do i diagnose this?[21:54]<Encrypt> Ok...[21:54]<ParkerR> dagerik, What sound are you trying to play?[21:55]<ParkerR> And do you have the right output (-o hdmi or -o local)[21:55]<Darkwell> wasutton3, your script can fix that[21:55]<dagerik> ParkerR: it is a video i downloaded which has sound. yes i am using omxplayer -o local swap.avi.[21:55]* trevorman (~tman@unaffiliated/trevorman) has joined #raspberrypi[21:55]<dagerik> speaks are plugged in on 3.5mm jack[21:55]* cheasee (~cheasee@86.59.106.188) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[21:55]* invisiblek (~dp@unaffiliated/invisiblek) Quit (Quit: leaving)[21:56]<wasutton3> Darkwell, not easily. I could have it just start deleting the oldest ones, but what if the user wanted to keep them?[21:56]<Darkwell> look at the pastebin example[21:56]<Darkwell> all your probs are solvable[21:56]* harris (~harris@unaffiliated/harris) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[21:57]<MooseV2> Why don't you just have it sync from the usb?[21:57]<MooseV2> Delete a file on the usb and its deleted from sd on next sync[21:57]<wasutton3> MooseV2, also a decent idea[21:58]* invisiblek (~dp@unaffiliated/invisiblek) has joined #raspberrypi[21:58]<wasutton3> MooseV2, but then id just have the udev rule tie it to a specific usb stick[21:58]<wasutton3> MooseV2, and thatd be a nice rsync one-liner[21:58]* _cheney (~cheney@nat.sierrabravo.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[21:59]<dagerik> when i play a video with omxplayer, all the people have really low pitched voice. so they all get "monster" voices. as if more blood is rushing towards brain. help[21:59]<Darkwell> you can identify the usbstick uniquely[21:59]<MooseV2> Wait, rsync can sync local?[21:59]<Encrypt> Ye[21:59]<Encrypt> Yep*[21:59]<MooseV2> Whoa.[21:59]<wasutton3> Darkwell, yea thats what i was thinking[21:59]<MooseV2> Mind blown[21:59]<wasutton3> MooseV2, yea its really handy[21:59]<Darkwell> udev have it all there[21:59]<Encrypt> rsync <source> <target>[22:00]<wasutton3> Darkwell, then i just sorta follow this http://hackaday.com/2009/09/18/how-to-write-udev-rules/[22:00]<Darkwell> and your extra script could check for file on the stick(s) if not existing those are asking the user if they want to prepare it for music[22:00]<wasutton3> Darkwell, well this pi is gonna be headless, so that wont work[22:01]* spacebug^ (~spacebug@h22n5-sde-d2.ias.bredband.telia.com) Quit (Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"])[22:01]<Darkwell> the pastebin example is rules for several fs formattings and also detecting exception ( cellphone)[22:01]<wasutton3> Darkwell, ive been seeing that[22:01]<Darkwell> wasutton3, store the file on the memstick[22:01]* harris (~harris@unaffiliated/harris) has joined #raspberrypi[22:02]* spacebug^ (~spacebug@h22n5-sde-d2.ias.bredband.telia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[22:02]<Darkwell> if you are sqlite savvy[22:02]<wasutton3> Darkwell, well then that would just have to be a simple text file that gets parsed[22:02]<Darkwell> you could add database for files etc[22:02]<wasutton3> Darkwell, remember this isnt a tech savvy user, its gonna be copypaste from windows[22:02]<Darkwell> yeah[22:02]<Darkwell> the udev script handdles it all[22:03]<Darkwell> the file isnt supposed to be seen by the windows user at all in windows[22:03]* Ricksl (~ricksl@c-68-39-90-86.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:03]<Darkwell> its jsut for your udev script =)[22:04]* hyppias (hyppias@5353041A.cm-6-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) Quit ()[22:04]<wasutton3> i dont quite follow. the file just asks the user if he wants to copy music to the drive?[22:04]<wasutton3> i might be better off with an .is_music_player file[22:05]<Darkwell> http://superuser.com/questions/53978/ubuntu-automatically-mount-external-drives-to-media-label-on-boot-without-a-u[22:06]<Darkwell> you can have a .super_media_fun_log[22:06]<MooseV2> Why don't you just use usbmount?[22:06]<Darkwell> the link is an example of udev rule calling external .sh script(s)[22:06]* tinti (~tinti@pdpc/supporter/student/tinti) has joined #raspberrypi[22:06]<wasutton3> Darkwell, the linux side isnt the problem. Its how to handle the windows side[22:06]* DeliriumTremens (~DT@reddit/operator/deliriumtremens) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[22:06]<Darkwell> drag n drop as usual to the memstic[22:07]<Darkwell> if the file .myspecial file exists the udev mouting script will know that this is your music sctic[22:07]<Darkwell> it can also be used to dump logs and bake in special features etc to[22:08]<Darkwell> as your solution evolves =)[22:08]<ozzzy> anyone know how to get nfs mounts to follow symlinks[22:08]* AeroNotix (~xeno@aboq230.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[22:08]<wasutton3> Darkwell, a good idea indeed[22:08]<Darkwell> so ifsomeone gets probs you can ask them to dump .myfile for you[22:09]<Darkwell> because if the stick is mounted, yuo can certainly dump logs on it[22:09]<Darkwell> either in that file or some other . file[22:10]<Darkwell> the have a . file that means something for the udev is to make sure that the user has accepted the stick as a media/music storage and the copying will be more or less automatic from there[22:11]<Darkwell> i suppose youw ant the pi to be more automated than windows[22:12]* Delboy (~openwrt@2001:b68:fc00:8b08::1) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[22:12]* MooseV2 (~MooseV2@67.201.162.46) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[22:13]<wasutton3> Darkwell, very much so[22:13]* DeliriumTremens (~DT@reddit/operator/deliriumtremens) has joined #raspberrypi[22:13]<Darkwell> yeah[22:13]<Darkwell> if youw ant to lock the machine[22:14]<Darkwell> you can even store say a hash of a password for given user on the memstick , not a user on the machine[22:14]<Darkwell> when mounted and prepared the machine asks for password or will not compy/do anything[22:14]<Encrypt> Which is the best case between PiHolder and the IcebergCase ? :p[22:14]* Commander1024 (~Commander@Commander1024-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:16]<Darkwell> i wait for a coldcase =)[22:18]* Commander1024 (~Commander@Commander1024-2-pt.tunnel.tserv6.fra1.ipv6.he.net) has joined #raspberrypi[22:18]<Darkwell> you dont ilke this http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/677951563/sweetbox-ii-the-perfect-case-for-your-raspberry-pione Encrypt ? :[22:18]<Darkwell> gah[22:18]<Encrypt> 404[22:18]<Darkwell> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/677951563/sweetbox-ii-the-perfect-case-for-your-raspberry-pi[22:18]<Darkwell> wobbly fingers =)[22:19]<Encrypt> Ya, I had seen that one :)[22:19]<Darkwell> i like their thinking about the coolin[22:19]<Darkwell> jsut want to see more surface[22:19]<Encrypt> Pretty simple and functional...[22:19]<Darkwell> yeah[22:19]<Darkwell> only the cooling could be improved[22:19]<oal> just mounted some heatsinks on my pi. DIY style :) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/262587/heatsinks.jpg[22:20]* LNDN (~LNDN@adsl-99-146-23-113.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi[22:20]<Encrypt> But that's not the one for cooling a Pi...[22:20]<IT_Sean> oal you do know the raspi does not need heatsinks, right?[22:20]<Darkwell> hehe its good enough[22:20]<Encrypt> How cold is your Pi then?[22:20]<oal> IT_Sean, it's cool, if you know what I mean ;)[22:21]* SgrA (~sgra@gateway/tor-sasl/sgra) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:21]<Darkwell> f you get a jewelers file you can make your own from cupper[22:21]* GentileBen (~epidural@cpc5-lutn10-2-0-cust681.9-3.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[22:21]<Encrypt> You see, the CPU of mine is 50°C hot...[22:21]<oal> 47C at 900mhz, overclocked[22:22]<Darkwell> oc[22:22]* Kaboon (kaboon@524A5520.cm-4-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #raspberrypi[22:22]* SgrA (~sgra@gateway/tor-sasl/sgra) has joined #raspberrypi[22:22]<Darkwell> c[22:22]<Encrypt> Even without overclocking as far as I'm concerned![22:22]<Darkwell> oic[22:22]<harris> ANYONE KNOW IF YOU CAN GET DROPBOX IN RASPBIAN[22:22]<IT_Sean> harris: press your capslock key[22:22]<Encrypt> :p[22:22]<Darkwell> right now im just cooling with aluminium from a used beer can[22:22]<harris> oh soory[22:22]<Darkwell> not the superb coolig[22:23]<oal> Might not be the prettiest or most efficient sinks, but I feel them heating up somewhat, so they do work, to some extent :)[22:23]<harris> didnt realize caps lock was on[22:23]<Encrypt> Have a look here: https://www.dropbox.com/help/247/fr[22:23]<Encrypt> You could that way I imagine...[22:23]<Darkwell> right now ive been finishing my last jewellers file on my last project[22:23]<oal> I should add that the Pi is 90-100% cpu at all times as it runs motion and a 1280x720 webcam[22:24]<oal> so it's 45-47C still[22:24]<Darkwell> so heatsinks will be done later, ceramics has a tendency to wear your files pretty rapidl =))[22:24]<Encrypt> Mine runs lots of things...[22:24]<dagerik> when i play a video with omxplayer, all the people have really low pitched voice. so they all get "monster" voices. as if more blood is rushing towards brain. help[22:24]<Encrypt> And 24 hours a day...[22:24]<Encrypt> That's why I think it must be worth buying an Iceberg or PiHolder case...[22:24]<Encrypt> Even if that's very expensive...[22:25]<oal> yeah, just wanted to make it clear that 47C with heatsinks wasn't without any load[22:25]<Encrypt> Because that's a nice case as well, don't you think so? :p[22:25]<Darkwell> r is cupper to get at your place ?[22:25]<Darkwell> how hard[22:25]<harris> should i set enable camera if i dont have pi camers[22:25]<IT_Sean> harris: no.[22:25]<harris> but might get it in future[22:25]<IT_Sean> That setting is for the camera module[22:25]<IT_Sean> You can always enable it later.[22:26]<harris> ok so how do i set up ssh[22:26]<Encrypt> On Rasbian ?[22:26]<oal> harris, it's already set up on raspbia[22:26]<Encrypt> Raspbian*[22:26]<harris> i enabled it in raspi-config now what[22:26]<Darkwell> if you ahve a dremel tool if you are into not do it anually you can use a dremel on a suger cube sized cupper piece to create your heatsink[22:26]<Encrypt> Ya, that was enable by default[22:26]<oal> ssh pi@ip, password is raspberry, harris[22:27]<harris> the username is harris[22:27]<harris> password is BasketBall2000[22:27]* xCP23x (~xCP23x@149.241.236.103) has joined #raspberrypi[22:27]<harris> so how can i ssh it from ubuntu[22:27]<Darkwell> harris, either reboot or run sudo su and then try /etc/init.dsshd restart[22:27]<Darkwell> harris, either reboot or run sudo su and then try /etc/init.d/sshd restart[22:27]* Jayneil (~jayneil@12.231.120.253) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[22:27]<Encrypt> We've got harris' password \o/[22:27]<oal> ssh harris@raspberry-ip, then type in your password when it asks for it[22:27]<Encrypt> :p[22:28]<IT_Sean> harris: it is generally A Bad Idea to post your password in here, for everyone to see.[22:28]<Encrypt> You have to find your raspberry pi's IP[22:28]<Darkwell> harris dont tell your ip ok ? =)[22:28]<harris> ok[22:28]<harris> how do i find ip[22:28]<Encrypt> harris, I mean local IP[22:28]<Darkwell> you are funny[22:28]<Darkwell> ifconfig[22:28]<Darkwell> ifconfig eth0[22:28]* bogusk101 (~bogusk101@107-202-109-218.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi[22:28]<Encrypt> Just find "inet adr"[22:29]<harris> found it[22:29]<Encrypt> Then you've got the IP address[22:29]<Darkwell> if you use windows i suggest you have putty to enter your machine[22:29]<harris> i use ubuntu[22:29]<Darkwell> ok cool[22:29]<Darkwell> the you jsut ssh it[22:29]<Encrypt> By the way, it's a good idea to set it once for all[22:29]<Darkwell> ssh user@ip[22:30]<harris> so[22:30]<Encrypt> Otherwise, DHCP will change it[22:30]<harris> ssh harris@myip[22:30]<Encrypt> yep[22:31]<Darkwell> maybe wherer should be started some kind of documentation project for this[22:31]<Encrypt> E.g : ssh harris@192.168.1.5[22:31]<Darkwell> i dontmean to write everythig from scratch[22:31]<harris> Encrypt, whats that ip[22:31]<Darkwell> but tto have a collection with reference to say the linux documentation project etc[22:31]<Darkwell> for new users[22:31]<Encrypt> A random IP[22:32]<Encrypt> Just to show you how it worked[22:32]<harris> ok[22:32]<harris> real quick[22:32]<harris> offtopic[22:32]<harris> how can i set lxdm to be deafult[22:32]<harris> i changed it on accident[22:32]<Darkwell> raspiconfig ?[22:32]* flufmnstr (~rawr@71-83-131-140.dhcp.snbr.ca.charter.com) has joined #raspberrypi[22:33]<harris> how do i do it there da[22:33]<harris> rkwell[22:33]* rikai_ (~rikai@unaffiliated/rikai) has joined #raspberrypi[22:34]<Darkwell> are you running raspbian ?[22:34]<harris> yes[22:34]<Darkwell> i checked[22:35]<Darkwell> im not a debian/raspbian savvy[22:35]<Darkwell> but how did you change it in first place ?[22:35]<harris> idk[22:35]* rikai 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seconds)[22:37]<harris> so what do i do[22:37]<Darkwell> hang on[22:37]<Darkwell> im checking[22:37]<harris> ok[22:38]<Darkwell> its supposed to be possible to fix manually to[22:38]<Darkwell> jsut checking so im not suggesting anything breaking the debian standard(s)[22:38]* shiftplusone (~Shift@unaffiliated/shiftplusone) has joined #raspberrypi[22:38]<harris> would shadeslayer[22:39]<harris> sorry[22:39]<harris> shiftplusone, know[22:43]<Encrypt> Darkwell, By the way, I'm thinking about something...[22:43]<harris> Darkwell, find anything[22:43]* Xeph (~Xeph@wikipedia/Xeph) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:43]<Darkwell> im not finding things where i expect it heheh[22:43]<Darkwell> imtoo used to gentoo[22:43]<Encrypt> The "sweetbox" has heatsinks with the same dimensions as the chips themselves...[22:44]<Encrypt> What's the aim then?[22:44]<IT_Sean> ?[22:45]<harris> IT_Sean, do you know[22:45]<Encrypt> It theoretically can't evacuate more heat than the chips themselves...[22:45]<Darkwell> you mean harris's prob or the heatsinks ?[22:45]* Spiffy (~Spiffy@unaffiliated/spiffy) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[22:45]<Encrypt> The heatsinks which accompany the sweetbox[22:45]<Darkwell> Encrypt, you are right givn the surfaces are same[22:45]<Encrypt> (maybe that* accompany)[22:45]* coin3d (~coin3d@p5B167DF2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #raspberrypi[22:46]<IT_Sean> the only point of selling heatsinks for the raspi is to alleviate some fools of their money..[22:46]<Encrypt> So this is pretty useless... :p[22:46]<Encrypt> IT_Sean, Maybe...[22:46]<IT_Sean> No, not maybe.[22:46]<Darkwell> if you dont build them yourself =)[22:46]<ParkerR> It _can_ help if you are overclocking a lot[22:46]<ozzzy> there's a youtube video or two on the efficacy of heatsinks on Pis[22:46]<Encrypt> But I'm talking about Physics...[22:47]<IT_Sean> The Raspi, under normal conditions, does not require additional cooling.[22:47]<Darkwell> prob is the ssooling surface has t be much greater then the ships own surface[22:47]<Encrypt> If heatsinks have no impact on the Pi, the sweetbox one can't have one at all...[22:47]<Darkwell> thats what i think is the prob with the "buttons"[22:47]<IT_Sean> Unless it is seriousily overcloked, and overvolted, it should not require additional cooling[22:47]* wasutton3 (~will@static-71-251-92-156.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[22:47]<ozzzy> basically... the heatsinks cooled the chip initially... but then temps went back up and stabilized where they were... unless there was a fan involved[22:47]<harris> boom got it Darkwell[22:47]<Darkwell> good[22:48]<Darkwell> how did you do it ?[22:48]<Darkwell> i looked the manual way[22:48]<harris> update-alternatives --config x-session-manager[22:48]<dagerik> now aplay -l wont even list the soundcard. oh i am messing up bad[22:48]* Xeph (~Xeph@wikipedia/Xeph) has joined #raspberrypi[22:48]<harris> then it shows the session managers each with a number[22:48]<Darkwell> ok cool harris[22:49]<harris> you type the number according to the session and press enter[22:49]<Darkwell> you taught me something new about raspbian now =)[22:49]<Encrypt> I have to go, Ubuntu Party tomorrow in Paris \o/[22:49]<Darkwell> have fun[22:49]<harris> have fun[22:49]<Encrypt> Thanks ;)[22:49]<harris> so now Darkwell[22:49]* markbook (~markllama@96.237.148.12) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[22:49]<Encrypt> See you! ;)[22:49]<Darkwell> laters[22:49]<harris> when i ssh[22:49]<harris> how can i get it to show me the gui so i feel like im on the actual pi[22:50]<Darkwell> either you export the display from the pi[22:50]* Encrypt (~Chuck-nor@AMontsouris-553-1-64-155.w92-151.abo.wanadoo.fr) Quit (Quit: Quitte)[22:50]<Darkwell> to your ubuntu machine[22:50]<Darkwell> or you use vnc[22:50]<ParkerR> harris, I already told you[22:50]<ParkerR> In #raspbian[22:50]<harris> ParkerR, you were confussing[22:50]<ParkerR> I gave you the exact commands[22:50]<harris> so Darkwell[22:50]<harris> just install vnc>[22:50]<harris> ?[22:51]<ParkerR> sudo apt-get install tightvncserver[22:51]<dagerik> help me get sound working. i get this when testing with aplay; http://bpaste.net/show/103441/[22:51]<Darkwell> yes vnc server on pi[22:51]<ParkerR> Then run vncpasswd[22:51]<Darkwell> and client on ubuntu[22:51]<ParkerR> And set a password[22:51]* Kaboon (kaboon@524A5520.cm-4-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl) Quit ()[22:51]<Darkwell> but wait[22:51]<ParkerR> Then tightvncserver -geometry 800x600[22:51]<Darkwell> if you are already running x on your pi[22:51]<Darkwell> dont even bother about vnc[22:52]<harris> i can use harris@ipadress[22:52]<harris> but thats not the gui[22:52]<ParkerR> I give up[22:52]* ParkerR (ParkerR@unaffiliated/parkerr) has left #raspberrypi[22:52]<Darkwell> its ok harris[22:52]<Darkwell> ill tell you[22:52]<Darkwell> dont care about the vnc at all ok ?[22:52]<dagerik> i am not giving up[22:53]<Darkwell> harris give this a look :[22:53]<Darkwell> http://www.xappsoftware.com/wordpress/2012/10/08/exporting-the-raspberry-display-on-your-pc-using-a-xorg/[22:54]<harris> ok[22:54]<harris> looking now[22:54]<harris> ty[22:54]<Darkwell> there is example how to export the display from your pi to another computer[22:54]* IT_Sean (~Ult_Ubunt@applefritter/IRCStaff/UltimateMacUser1) Quit (Quit: Pipe Failure)[22:55]* qrz7 (~pku@ppp-93-104-148-97.dynamic.mnet-online.de) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[22:55]<Darkwell> the prob there is they show with cygwin[22:55]* bogusk101 (~bogusk101@107-202-109-218.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: bogusk101)[22:55]<Darkwell> ill try to find smoething else for you[22:55]* rikai_ is now known as rikai[22:55]<harris> ok[22:55]<harris> Darkwell, can i say something[22:55]* LNDN (~LNDN@adsl-99-146-23-113.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[22:56]<Darkwell> sure[22:57]<harris> you are a huge help thank you so much[22:57]<Darkwell> np[22:57]<Darkwell> http://deadbird.fr/index.php?p=432[22:57]<Darkwell> better ne for your setup[22:58]<Darkwell> linux rind xorg ( X11 and it can export its display back and forth =)[22:58]* ParkerR (ParkerR@unaffiliated/parkerr) has joined #raspberrypi[22:58]<Darkwell> rind = runs[22:58]<harris> soooo[22:59]<harris> is it the headless[22:59]<harris> pi[23:00]* applegekko (~applegekk@gateway/tor-sasl/applegekko) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[23:00]* SgrA (~sgra@gateway/tor-sasl/sgra) Quit (Write error: Broken pipe)[23:00]* jimerickson (~jimericks@gateway/tor-sasl/jimerickson) Quit (Write error: Broken pipe)[23:00]<harris> Darkwell, is this line on pi or pc[23:00]<harris> ssh -X pi@192.168.1.99[23:01]<Darkwell> which page ?[23:01]* MachinaeWolf (~IceWolf@ip184-190-193-75.lf.br.cox.net) has joined #raspberrypi[23:01]<harris> http://deadbird.fr/index.php?p=432[23:01]<harris> down at the headless[23:01]<MachinaeWolf> What's the highest psu for the oldest model B?[23:01]<djazz> http://i.imgur.com/5ARBUk0.jpg :)[23:04]<MachinaeWolf> I'm asking because I'm pretty sure I only have a psu with the minimum[23:05]* roxlu (~roxlu@69-21.ftth.alicecomfortplus.nl) Quit (Read error: Operation timed out)[23:05]<Darkwell> harris, its on your pi[23:05]<harris> ok so how do i find my ip on ubuntu[23:06]<Darkwell> ifconfig[23:06]<Darkwell> in a terminal[23:06]* reZo (~gareth@203.160.125.127) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:06]<harris> ok and what is it under[23:06]<Darkwell> xtgerm[23:06]<Darkwell> xterm[23:06]* h0cin (~h0cin@unaffiliated/h0cin) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[23:06]<harris> inet address[23:06]* Kane (~Kane@150.49.197.77.rev.sfr.net) Quit (Quit: Night all o/)[23:06]<Darkwell> you probably have other wasy in ubunto to find[23:06]<ladoga> ifconfig | grep "inet addr"[23:06]<Darkwell> but term is what i know best lol[23:06]* reZo (gareth@203.160.125.127) has joined #raspberrypi[23:06]<ladoga> likely 192.168.*.*[23:07]<Darkwell> sorry[23:08]<Darkwell> ssh -X line is suppsed to be frmo your pc to pi[23:08]* roxlu (~roxlu@69-21.ftth.alicecomfortplus.nl) has joined #raspberrypi[23:09]* ebswift (~ebswift@ppp118-208-131-150.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:09]<harris> ok and this[23:09]<harris> xhost +192.168.1.99[23:09]<harris> is supposed to be laptops ip or rpis[23:09]<ladoga> yes basically on your ubuntu machine you open a terminal window and run it[23:09]<ladoga> raspi[23:10]* Turingi (~devon@unaffiliated/devon-hillard/x-7250961) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[23:10]<Darkwell> xhost on pc[23:10]<Darkwell> export display line on pi[23:10]* ant_thomas (~ant_thoma@97e02945.skybroadband.com) has joined #raspberrypi[23:11]<Darkwell> then rin whatever command you know will start a gui thing and you should see that on your pc[23:11]* Artpicre (~Artpicre@vit94-10-78-240-193-57.fbx.proxad.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[23:11]<harris> how do i start chrome[23:11]* CFNinja (~djuggler@doug.ws.utk.edu) has joined #raspberrypi[23:11]<harris> chromium[23:11]<harris> whats that code[23:11]* MachinaeWolf (~IceWolf@ip184-190-193-75.lf.br.cox.net) has left #raspberrypi[23:11]<ozzzy> did you install chrome[23:11]<harris> chromium yes[23:11]<Darkwell> tru run midori on your pi[23:11]<harris> dont have midori[23:11]* Peemo (ae73632e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.115.99.46) has joined #raspberrypi[23:12]<Darkwell> thats a browser that is in your default install of raspbian[23:12]<ozzzy> if you installed the raspbian image you have midori[23:12]<harris> i deleted it[23:12]<Darkwell> the command is issued on the pi[23:12]<Darkwell> and then all gui will export to your pc[23:12]<Darkwell> ah ok[23:12]<Peemo> Hey I want to add a "power switch" to my Pi, can anyone point me in the right direction?[23:12]<Darkwell> same goes for whatever prog with ui[23:12]* aphadke (~Adium@nat/mozilla/x-qdsqyxgaagjzxobi) has joined #raspberrypi[23:12]<Peemo> I found this http://lifehacker.com/5994036/add-a-reset-switch-to-a-raspberry-pi which seems really easy but it's for a reset switch not a power switch.[23:13]<harris> ok to claify[23:13]<Darkwell> Peemo, no shutdown -h now ?[23:13]<ladoga> seems like exporting DISPLAY isn't necessary[23:13]<harris> i type this code in the pi[23:13]<harris> or laptop[23:13]<Darkwell> export display is important[23:13]<ladoga> i just ran xhost +raspi[23:13]<ozzzy> I never had to bother with xhost[23:13]* djuggler (~djuggler@doug.ws.utk.edu) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[23:13]<harris> ok[23:13]<Darkwell> hmm[23:13]<ladoga> followed by "ssh -Y user@raspi"[23:13]<Darkwell> dont kow but xhost isnt impåortant[23:13]<Darkwell> =)[23:13]<Darkwell> lol[23:14]<harris> im trying to find video guides[23:14]<ladoga> and forwarding apps works fine[23:14]<ozzzy> I just use ssh -X to let X through[23:14]<Peemo> Darkwell: Oh of course I use that right now, but I'm making a gaming console and I would love a real power button to turn it on and off.[23:14]<Darkwell> but it was aout 15 ears ago i exported disays activaly[23:14]<Darkwell> Peemo, perhaps write a python script ansuse gpio ?[23:15]<Darkwell> and ues gpio ?[23:15]<ozzzy> Peemo... you'd have to bypass the micro usb with to a switch then to an external power connector[23:15]<Peemo> Oh interesting.[23:15]<Darkwell> tnk youc ould jsut check for a shot between 1 pins , all you might need is a resistor and short 2 pins[23:15]<ladoga> ssh -Y might be faster, though I'm not sure. It treats target as trusted[23:15]<Darkwell> and then trigger shutdown -h now[23:16]<ladoga> ssh -X is more secure[23:16]* Jevermeister (~Jevermeis@unaffiliated/jever) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[23:16]<ladoga> anyway either should work[23:16]<Darkwell> yeah[23:16]<harris> is it too much to just want to be able to use pi without having access to it[23:16]<Darkwell> i think -X is preferrable[23:16]<Darkwell> to not to let freeloaders in[23:16]<ozzzy> does sshd compress the data by default?[23:17]* CFNinja (~djuggler@doug.ws.utk.edu) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[23:17]<harris> i want to see the gui[23:17]<Darkwell> then restart the server and all will be exported for you[23:18]<dagerik> i am able to play sound using mpg123, mplayer and aplay. however using omxplayer the sound gets distorted or different results on difference videos. i am using omxplayer -o local file.avi via ssh. video is good.[23:18]<Darkwell> mean[23:18]<ozzzy> dagerik: video over ssh will always be crap[23:18]<Darkwell> you could fix in the startx to export everyting[23:18]<dagerik> ozzzy: it's not over ssh[23:18]<ParkerR> ozzzy, It doesnt play via ssh[23:18]<ParkerR> It play on the Pi[23:18]<ParkerR> But you can launch it in an ssh session[23:19]<ozzzy> i am using omxplayer -o local file.avi via ssh. video is good. <--- you said ssh[23:19]<ParkerR> *plays[23:19]<ParkerR> It runs via SSH but uses the Pi hardware[23:19]<Darkwell> the pi is playing a stream so to say ? =)[23:19]* teepee (~teepee@p50845C7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[23:20]* teepee (~teepee@p50847397.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #raspberrypi[23:20]<Darkwell> brb dog walkine[23:20]* lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk[23:21]<harris> anyone have code to start chromium[23:21]* dreamreal (~jottinge@redhat/dreamreal) Quit (Quit: leaving)[23:21]<ozzzy> chromium or chrome[23:22]<harris> chromium[23:22]<rymate1234> >chromium on a pi[23:22]<rymate1234> You poor person[23:22]<ozzzy> have you tried 'chromium'[23:22]<harris> what[23:23]<harris> when i type the code in the ssh[23:23]* heathkid (~heathkid@unaffiliated/heathkid) has joined #raspberrypi[23:23]<harris> it opens on pi[23:23]<dagerik> so omxplayer plays a mp3 or wav file nicely. but when playing videos, the sound is distorted.[23:23]<ozzzy> tht's what it is supposed to do[23:23]* Peemo (ae73632e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.115.99.46) Quit (Quit: Page closed)[23:23]<harris> would remote login be wwhat i want[23:24]<harris> where i can access everything[23:24]<harris> brb[23:24]* harris (~harris@unaffiliated/harris) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:25]<ParkerR> rymate1234, It's not that bad[23:26]* harris (~harris@unaffiliated/harris) has joined #raspberrypi[23:26]<harris> i want it to be like im on my pi[23:26]<harris> when im really on laptop[23:27]* Turingi (~devon@unaffiliated/devon-hillard/x-7250961) has joined #raspberrypi[23:27]<rymate1234> harris: Look up vnc[23:28]<harris> ok?[23:28]<rymate1234> However using the pi over the network is going to be terribly slow[23:28]<harris> ugh[23:28]<harris> i just need to use pi from laptop[23:31]<dagerik> harris: you can use ssh for that[23:31]<harris> i need to see the gui though'[23:32]<rymate1234> Why?[23:32]<Darkwell> back[23:32]<ParkerR> I suggested VNC and the steps on how to use it. ALl you need now is just a viewer[23:32]<Darkwell> thinking of it[23:32]<dagerik> harris: try ssh with X forwarded. can also try vnc[23:33]<Darkwell> i recall i only used ssh -L[23:33]<Darkwell> to export my displays[23:34]<ozzzy> I just use -XC[23:34]<ozzzy> [shrug][23:35]<ozzzy> or... vncserver :1[23:35]<ozzzy> then run krdc on the desktop or tightvncclient on the win7 machine[23:37]<ParkerR> harris, http://pastebin.com/B5TFkFD2[23:39]* Delboy (~openwrt@2001:b68:fc00:8b08::1) has joined #raspberrypi[23:39]* _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable237.145-19-135.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:40]* dreamreal (~jottinge@redhat/dreamreal) has joined #raspberrypi[23:42]* _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable237.145-19-135.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi[23:42]* bogusk101 (~bogusk101@107-202-109-218.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi[23:42]* xCP23x (~xCP23x@149.241.236.103) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[23:42]* pksato (~PEBKAC@unaffiliated/pksato) has joined #raspberrypi[23:44]<dagerik> i am experiencing the same as this dude is; http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=43116&p=345272&hilit=omxplayer#p345272[23:44]<dagerik> the symptoms that is.[23:46]<pksato> dagerik: on all videos? any format? any codec?[23:46]<harris> would lxsession do it[23:46]<dagerik> pksato: all three i've tried.[23:47]<Tachyon`> you could try a dist-upgrade, perhaps your omxplayer depends on newer libs that have been held back[23:47]<dagerik> i got my rasp today. it is up to date[23:48]<dagerik> omxplayer plays .mp3 and .wav files fine though.[23:48]* aphadke (~Adium@nat/mozilla/x-qdsqyxgaagjzxobi) has left #raspberrypi[23:48]* Orion__ (~Orion_@205.118.211.29) has joined #raspberrypi[23:48]<dagerik> but not video files with sound[23:48]<ant_thomas> did you download the raspian image labelled 2013-02-09?[23:48]<dagerik> ant_thomas: no, archlinux-hf-2013-02-11.zip[23:49]<ant_thomas> have you tried to do any updates?[23:49]* harris (~harris@unaffiliated/harris) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[23:49]<dagerik> yes system is fully updated[23:52]* _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable237.145-19-135.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:53]<Darkwell> lol[23:53]<Darkwell> things are simpler these days ;[23:53]<Darkwell> harris jsut to export the display you can run ssh -Y pi@pihost[23:53]<Darkwell> then run wthe command in the terminal there[23:53]<Darkwell> and it will be exported[23:53]* elek (elek_@c-76-111-252-247.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[23:53]<Darkwell> no extra fuzz[23:54]<Darkwell> i tested it myeslf right now[23:55]* tanuva (~tanuva@89.204.137.11) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[23:55]* ircubic (~ircubic@ircubic.net) Quit (Disconnected by services)[23:56]* Crenn-NAS (~Crenn@60-241-72-121.static.tpgi.com.au) has joined #raspberrypi[23:56]* koniiiik_ (johnny64@phoenix.wheel.sk) has joined #raspberrypi[23:56]* _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable237.145-19-135.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi[23:57]<Darkwell> ok jsut doing ssh -Y doesnt make the server export the diplay when trying startx =)[23:57]* pkrnj_ (~pkrnj@bas2-montreal47-1279438707.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #raspberrypi[23:57]* Viper (~Viper@unaffiliated/outofcontrol/x-1373891) has joined #raspberrypi[23:59]* bogusk101 (~bogusk101@107-202-109-218.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: bogusk101)