What I meant by a full install to USB stick is having the linux image initrd and the pup_*.sfs etc. all installed to the root partition '/' of the USB stick. In the same partition resides a /root folder, but there is no pup_save loop-back device.

Any persistent changes also get saved to this top-level partition.

I wasn't aware that this is not supported.

My brother in London seems to have managed to do such installs to USB - has done for some time.

Whether it is actually fully functional though is another story. I think he mentioned that he was using Puppy 525 in this way. My test was done using this latest Wary 5.2_________________Life is too short to spend it in front of a computer

PupCamera recognized a Canon PowerShot A610 immediately and permitted viewing of photos. A usb reader using the camera's card also allowed viewing of photos.

Wary 514 boots reliably, but the two beta versions of this wary occasionally booted to a black screen with a small off-white square ~ 2cm on a side slightly off-center (sorry, wasn't able to report in a timely fashion). I have not noticed this behavior in 5.2, but will let you know.

What I meant by a full install to USB stick is having the linux image initrd and the pup_*.sfs etc. all installed to the root partition '/' of the USB stick. In the same partition resides a /root folder, but there is no pup_save loop-back device.

Any persistent changes also get saved to this top-level partition.

I wasn't aware that this is not supported.

My brother in London seems to have managed to do such installs to USB - has done for some time.

Whether it is actually fully functional though is another story. I think he mentioned that he was using Puppy 525 in this way. My test was done using this latest Wary 5.2

The difference between a frugal and full (normal Linux)
install on Puppy usb:

Hi Barry,
many thanks for this wary5.2 !
Summary:
Here maybe needed
- to add /etc/modprobe.d/i915.conf and set value to 1
- to install an extra video-driver pet - i.e. xf86-video-intel-2.3.2-patched_lenny7-w5c.pet from wary pet repo - for running Xorg7.6 (whose pet is ...already...delivered with a «ton» of additional drivers...).
I am not sure if all this is right or wrong ? It howerver looks working
- frugal bootup in ca. 30 seconds

1. running the original Xorg 7.3.0
First live-cd boot-up on X.Org 7.3 worked OTB on vesa driver selecting <Probe> on xorgwizard;
afterwards re-ran xorgwizard to <Choose> Intel driver ---> also got OTB X desktop to run on intel driver.

2. Xorg 7.6.0 test
Then created a savefile; and got a try installing Xorg 7.6.0. Got X to crash if intel driver <Choosen> running xorgwizard.
X desktop only worked on vesa.
I noticed the file/etc/modprobe.d/i915.conf was not present.
So had to import it and settled it with value = 1.

Code:

options i915 modeset=1

I also added the xf86-video-intel-2.3.2-patched_lenny7-w5c.pet as I thought the intel-video driver version not matching with the Xorg 7.6 - Xorg.0.log indeed told «[ 1310.825] (EE) No devices detected.»
Got X to crash one more time !

So, that was yesterday; as X was crashed, I had to force the power switch off by keeping the power button on at least 4 seconds ...etc.

Now today, Xorg seems to work on intel driver!...without doing anything special.
Once my PC on, wary 5.2. opens on the very same savefile. I even thought it was starting with the vesa driver.
Then doing

Installed printer direct via USB. Same problem. Could somebody else just try to print something simple from Geany please. Does it work?

I've tried printing from the K6 machine, which is actually working at the moment, on Wary 5.2. On both a pfix=ram and Frugal start I could print the test page from CUPS and an image from mtpaint but printing from both Abiword and Geany isn't working. The jobs are just sitting there in the queue and the status line says "/usr/lib/cups/filter/pdftops failed".

Installed printer direct via USB. Same problem. Could somebody else just try to print something simple from Geany please. Does it work?

I've tried printing from the K6 machine, which is actually working at the moment, on Wary 5.2. On both a pfix=ram and Frugal start I could print the test page from CUPS and an image from mtpaint but printing from both Abiword and Geany isn't working. The jobs are just sitting there in the queue and the status line says "/usr/lib/cups/filter/pdftops failed".

My printer is a Canon BJC-70 and I'm printing to it via a Netgear PS110 print server using the lpd protocol. All other operating systems are printing fine, even Windows 98!

Thanks so much Jades. I was getting sick of being ignored over something so important and fundamental. This is a major showstopper for a final._________________Spup Frugal HD and USB
Root forever!

I installed the MESA video package as Barry suggested, bur made no difference to the FPS figure as reported by glxgears.

I'm getting about 700FPS with or without the MESA package so it's OK anyway.

Out of curiosity, I then tried the report-video program. This started up OK, but produced no output at all. I think I'll remove the MESA package and see if that makes any difference.
edit:
My mistake, report-video does work. Simply redirected the output to a file.

I have also tried installing the XORG 7.6 pet, but with no joy at all. X would not start up at all with this installed. Removed the package and everything went back to normal.

Video card is an ATI Radeon 3450.

Can confirm the over-extended screen problem as reported above by Tui._________________Life is too short to spend it in front of a computer

I have the same printing problem as reported by DaveS and confirmed by others. After experimenting a bit, I found that certain ways of printing do work with my HP LaserJet 6P attached to a Windows server on my LAN.

I tried:

Code:

lpr -P <printer> test.txt

(where <printer> is the network name assigned to my printer).

And this worked. Since I know that foxit pdf reader uses this code to print, I tried to print from foxit - once again successfully.

Next stop was mtpaint because you can enter print commands in this program by hand. The preset was gtklp %f and this worked too.

Now to abiword. Here printing failed with a message that pdftops failed - although, as Barry reported, pdftops does in fact work. I tried the abiword printer preview, which turns the file into a pdf that is displayed with epdfview. This functioned correctly and I was able to print the file from the viewer!

Leafpad provided the same results - no direct printing, but printing possible via the printer preview. This workaround is not available with Geany because Geany does not have a preview function.

Finally, I checked printing from libreoffice 3.3.0.4 - which works.

So, it would appear that there is broken link somewhere, but it is difficult to find without knowing which chain of command the various programs use in order to print.

I have the same printing problem as reported by DaveS and confirmed by others. After experimenting a bit, I found that certain ways of printing do work with my HP LaserJet 6P attached to a Windows server on my LAN.

I tried:

Code:

lpr -P <printer> test.txt

(where <printer> is the network name assigned to my printer).

And this worked. Since I know that foxit pdf reader uses this code to print, I tried to print from foxit - once again successfully.

Next stop was mtpaint because you can enter print commands in this program by hand. The preset was gtklp %f and this worked too.

Now to abiword. Here printing failed with a message that pdftops failed - although, as Barry reported, pdftops does in fact work. I tried the abiword printer preview, which turns the file into a pdf that is displayed with epdfview. This functioned correctly and I was able to print the file from the viewer!

Leafpad provided the same results - no direct printing, but printing possible via the printer preview. This workaround is not available with Geany because Geany does not have a preview function.

Finally, I checked printing from libreoffice 3.3.0.4 - which works.

So, it would appear that there is broken link somewhere, but it is difficult to find without knowing which chain of command the various programs use in order to print.

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