however, the far left computer won't boot fully. it somes up with a 640*480 res screen, gives an error about graphics settings then sticks on a plain default ubuntu background coloured screen for ever. i was going to bring in a blank cd-r and download an ubuntu live cd so folks could access files on it and see if anything obvious error wise comes up. i have no faith that i'll be able to fix the problem however

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Thinking about it, it was halfway through an Ubuntu install the other day and whoever I was in the action room with said it was being left for someone to come in and finish it (can't remember who, in either case).

Got here and then realised I have no idea what any of the logins are! Could some nice person send me a message and let me know what user/pass combo I need to be able to get a root shell (anything with sudo access, really). If you could let me know logins for the machines in the action room, that would be even better!

Am not afraid of change , but the majority of users find it difficult , like the upgrade to 8.04 , gimp no longer used gutenberg print which cause a few people a lot of hassel and me , as i had to try and sort it out . so again is it really essential when most people just want to print something out . I think stablity it more important than shiny new things .

its been my understanding that the releases after the LTS tend to be a bit edgy . and point by point becoming more stable . it would be good to have a consensuses on how we apply this in future . the most important things apart form being able to log on is for these computers to access the net , and being able to print stuff out which is a constant problem .

8.10 also has gimp 2.6 , which is less than great , whist a great step forward towards the goal of cmky support , but currently a pain in the ass , and i would give it a miss for daily use .

ChaoticReality wrote:Thinking about it, it was halfway through an Ubuntu install the other day and whoever I was in the action room with said it was being left for someone to come in and finish it (can't remember who, in either case).

turns out that this wasn't the upgrade to 8.04 i was thinking about but instead had been infoseed's jay coming in and reinstalling ubuntu from a live cd. this formatted the drive, wiping all the documents and other such files in the process. the install had only been half completed which was why there was a black screen with a grub error code rather than a 640*480 screen with a msg about the gfx drivers. mike saw the install waiting for some input to continue but didn't touch it as he was unsure what the situation with the machine was. so after a format and a fresh ubuntu install, there's no real luck of getting anything back from before, sorry peeps who had things on there. does anyone know why jay had been in? i mean, yes, he's computer knowledgeable, but he didn't think to guess if there was any content on the hard drive that was wanting gotten at.

mike is planning to go through the reinstall process to complete a fresh install of 8.04 tomorrow when he has time.

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In other news, yesterday I fixed up the two computers on the right hand side of the action room.

Furthest right: Was already running 8.04 but severely out of date and not using proper graphics card drivers. This has now been fully updated and the drivers installed, configured and tested. Now the screen is running at 75hz, so you can actually use it without the flickering killing your eyes

Second in: Was still running 7.10 and wouldn't upgrade using the upgrade manager "Could not download release notes". Running a forced upgrade from the command line said there was no new version of Ubuntu available so with a bit of hacking, I managed to point it to repositories it could access. This machine is now fully updated on 8.04 and has also had the graphics card drivers sorted so it is running at a non eye-bleeding resolution/refresh.

I will be in most of the day today as well and plan to fix up the two left hand side machines. Furthest left needs reinstalling from scratch to 8.04 and the other one needs the graphics issue sorted.

I am making an effort to do this once a week, as keeping up-to-date is good for security/non-breakyness/stressfree computing!

The desktops on all the machines are a mess! I would like to instigate a clean-up and organisation of files prior to trying to move to a server-based setup. Is anyone willing to help with this as it needs more than one person?

i wouldn't mind helping, though there's no real point until a server plan is organised and instigated else there'd be no real reason for people to help with their own desktop crap or change their behaviour.

so..

do we have the components for a server machine? i'm not too hot on what's around/available right now..

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