This will only be added in 5.4 (Correct me if im wrong). But they did the same to t14 content when ToT was released. I don't se any real issue with this since there will be a new content out and old one should only be used as an gear up process.

@OP, why do they suck? Unless Blizzard was amazing and released a new raid every 2-4 weeks, if a new raid comes out and you haven't cleared the previous, the nerfs are not only for you, but needed by you as well.

Note: When I say "you", I'm not specifically referring to YOU, the OP.

This has been done every tier since ICC (someone will surely correct me if I'm wrong) and it enables people that are behind, coming back from a break, or new to the game to catch up to current content. Believe it or not, it's a GOOD thing.

You said yourself it doesn't affect you, so why are you even commenting on it?

Another exaggerrated complaint without substance. Once 5.4 hits, ToT loot is worthless anyway, these kind of nerfs are a great motivation for people who didn´t succeed earlier and keep people motivated. While 4 steps a 5% might be a smoother learning curve, the general direction is absolutely legitimate and right. At this point, noone cares about the achievements in ToT anymore anyway.

another thread of the "i have to complain about something or i will die in 5 seconds" way.
your examples are poor, ds and icc were end xpac raids meant to stay longer then a mid xpac raid like tot.
blizz did the same with hof mgv and toes when tot was released because that's what happens when a raid is not relevant content anymore, wanna cry about something? well at least use some reasoning before writing; there are a lot of reasons to whine about wow nowadays, just choose a proper one.

I think my tone may have been misread,.. not really crying all that much about it.,, just saying I dislike it and prefer the gradual incriments over the huge chunk over night nerf,..

firelands was a great exsample.. but good points on the diffrences.. I can see the diffrences of this not hitting till soo hits. but even so, I stil prefer a gradual smoothed nerfing over this way.

after reading these comments I think most thought I was extremely complaining.. I was mildly complaining,.. and after reading the comments , I must admit im even less concern.. I am just conserned after what they did in firelands I was hoping they didn't return to that type of nerfing philosophy,.. but I can see the difference of waiting till new content before carpet bombing the place with a huge overnight nerf..

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Originally Posted by Vladimeir

They replaced those small 5% nerfs with item upgrades. 8 ilvl's over an entire raid pretty much equates itself to a 20% nerf.

good point

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Originally Posted by Ugru

You said yourself it doesn't affect you, so why are you even commenting on it?

I don't think something has to negatively impact me to make a coment on it,.. so long as I feel it impacts someone badly would be good enough reason,.. mistakenly or not.

This has been done every tier since ICC (someone will surely correct me if I'm wrong)

They haven't nerfed T11 HM, only T11 NM. Imo, it was the best decision ever.

As far as NM is concerned, I think that ~15% is about a good number, so 10% for T14 and 20% for T15? Ok, I'm fine with it.
But why the hell would they nerf HM content?
Sinestra 10HM was still fun to attempt for a time because the percentage-based damage have never been nerf.

The gear upgrade feature has already been a "soft nerf" of ToT an it's been in since the last patch.

It's possible to roll to Jin'Rokh for the first time - with entire raid in i530 gear. The content wasn't designed for that and will feel like a faceroll. Most of Normal ToT will feel that way. Haven't seen much complaints about it - mostly because people don't realise it behaves the same way as small incremental content nerfs - it's really clever design by Blizzard.

The 5.4 nerf with 20% is fine because ToT will be old and outdated content at that point - they always do that to redundant content.

20% is kind of high but the Siege patch in 5.4 will be the last raid for this expansion. So I'm sure Blizzard wants as many people as possible to finish TOT and move into Siege. A lot of guilds won't attempt the new raid until they have cleared the previous one.