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Monday, April 1, 2013

Sinaloa: CDS /CDG Split- BLO Truce

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Message sent from Sinaloa to CDG

The alliance of Gulf Cartel and
CDS (The Federation)has ended; claims a rumor that is growing and that recent
events indicate.

At the beginning of the rupture
between CDG and Zetas, the CDS led by Sinaloa Cartel, supported the Gulf Cartel, while sicarios of
the Familia Michoacana Cartel, arrived to Tamaulipas to reinforce the lines. Sinaloa financially supported and provided
weapons for their allies in Tamaulipas.

CDG maximum leader
Eduardo Costilla Sanchez “El Coss” set aside the historical conflict with the Sinaloa Cartel, to take action on
clearing of Zetas in Tamaulipas and Nuevo Leon.

By CDG betrayals and infighting, little by little, compromised the alliance.The death of Commander Guerra represented a tough hit to the people of
Sinaloa, since he allowed them to work without fee for the right of passing.

The CDS Federation attempted to rectify the situation and an urgent meeting is
called in Matamoros, Mayo Zambada and Chapo Guzman would be present with Mario Ramirez Trevino aka El X-20 and Pelónand El Gringo, to pacify the internal conflict.

The meeting is confirmed for
August 8th. A squad is sent
comprised of El Azul and Rey de Reyes.Commander Diablo backs them up from Ciudad Victoria where they have made
inroads.

Aug 7 2012 The squad makes it
to Matamoros.At 8pm a series of
blockades, presumably ordered by Mario Pelon, paralyzes the city.The Marina receives an anonymous call about
armed civilians. The squad is attacked by sicarios.

The local group informs them that they are
being attacked by Zetas and fractions of the Rojos, but on the radio frequency they are told that they have been betrayed
andto leave the city.

El Gringo alerts his allies and
after a fierce shootout they manage to leave the city while being chased for
about 50 kilometers.In Ciudad Victoria they
receive help from Commander Diablo.

In Sinaloa, Mayo Zambada informs
Chapo of the situation, he takes things in a calm manner and says, “Let them
kill themselves first, do not attack CDG at the moment”.

Differences between Cardena and
Costilla by the one who wanted total control of CDG in Tamaulipas, Mario Pelon.
Costilla heads south, mainly to Tampico.

Juan Reyes Mejía González (R1)

Once Coss and his people fall,
Mario Pelon gains control of CDG.

The alliance with the federation
continues with Gringo from Reynosa and the Ribereña with El Puma.

The Sinaloa Cartel makes a truce
with the Beltran Leyva, sworn enemies of the CDG.This leads to the execution of El Gringo
because he represents a threat to Mario Pelon's leadership.There is talk about a pact between El Gringo
and Sinaloa to let them use the Ribereña pathway.

March 23rdin a safe house of the CDG in Monterrey are
dropped off bodies with a message for Mario Pelón.....

From the Sinaloa federation:

Only as a traitor could you be somebody, Mario Pelon. You betrayed those
who fed you just to gain power. You took down my closest CDG collaborators, and
you already told your suck ass Metros that you personally executed Metro 3, my
associate. However, the Metros decided to trust you, and you ordered an attack
from behind on my other associates in Valle Hermoso, Tamaulipas. I'm referring
to the man who had my total trust and was the chief of security for El Coss, El
Comandante Guerra.

You knew that by getting him out
of the way you could weaken El Coss's organization, and like a good,
treacherous dog, you hit him from behind, you and that asshole, M4, who is in
hell already for being a treacherous dog.Then you set up my principal associate, El Coss, with the Navy in
Tampico.

Finally, you also betrayed El Gringo; you knew he was in your wayto becoming the only leader. And I'm not
forgetting what you did to my people when I sent El Azul, El Rey de Reyes and
El Comandante Diablo to Matamoros to fix those problems you were having. Again,
you attacked from behind, you attacked them when they entered Matamoros. You
told me it was Los Zetas; El Azul almost didn't make it, had it not been for El
Rey de Reyes. You have failed the Sinaloa federation.

That's why, starting right now, the Sinaloa Cartel will cease having any
connection with the Gulf Cartel. The Frontera Chica will be my next target. You
and all that bunch of Metros who are only good at betrayal, repent all you can
because soon I will be in those places, Miguel Aleman, Reynosa, Rio Bravo and
Matamoros are too much for you (more than you can handle). Only a capo can
control them.You're just a dog who came from the Ministerial (police).

XCartel de SinaloaX

We are family, one single organization"

R1 is still alive; now he is a member of the CDS, Tamaulipas will not
see peace soon...

Source: Chuy NewsThanks to Lacy and Emiliano for their continuing help and friendship, and my buddy Vato

remember people this is Mexico not a resort my brother in law got kidnapped 2 years ago for some bullshit and it wasn't even worth it and it was paid for and we still never got them back and I know who's behind all this shit and I know how Mexico works of Mexico is just so corrupted and dirty it's just full of extortion some money money money that's all it is so whoever has more money that's how it fucking goes the next person that dies and falls off moves to the next that's how It keeps cycling there it's pretty sad that we should all be working together and start killing our own

wouldn't it be funny if someone from the US went over and did the same thing to Mexico well one thing is I know it's going to happen somebody's going to go over to Mexico and fuck shit up pinche puto's hahahaha

THIS IS R1 SENDING A MESSAGE TO EL GOLFO THAT HE IS NOT A CDG MEMBER ANYMORE AND IS NOW PART OF CDS HE IS NOW BACK UP BY CHAPO TO TAKE DOWN LOS METROS SINCE M3 GOT KILLED LOS R Y LOS METROS HAS BEEN AT WAR AND IS MOW RENEWD BECAUSE CHAPO IS GOING FOR REYNOSA THIS MAKES SENSE BECAUSE COMANDANTE DIABLO IS HIS NEPHEW AND R1 IS REY DE REYES AND AS FOR THE BELTRAN LEYVA THERE NOT ALIED BUT THEY HAVE A TRUCE I KNOW ITS HARD TO BELIEVE BUT ITS TRUE.

The Plot Thickens... The Sh#t Has Hit The Fan.. The Disease of Greed And Power Run Rampant In Tamps. What About The Zetas Do They Flank When The Time Is Right? Who Will Regain Control Of Tamps.. I Guess Only Time Will Tell.God Help The Innocents! -

I remember a lot of people in interviews saying that the Sinaloa cartel would take over Tamaulipas I didn't think the war would start so soon Beltrans still have Monterey but what about the zeta alliance and how the hell is CDG Gona do it on their own will the zetas approach them and R1 working with CDS wow with all these new wars 2010 sounds like a cake walk compare to 2013...Chapo doesn't sound scare because at this point who the hell can challenge him the Trevino brothers never come out of Guatemala

And is the Comandante Diablo that's mentioned the 'infamous' Comandante Diablo from the videos of Zetas getting butchered? If so, was he a CDG/Costilla lieutenant who has become a CDS lieutenant after Costilla's arrest, or has he been a CDS lieutenant this entire time?

It all started with that pug-nose Metro 3 killing "concord 3" shit went bad after that. Blood will run in Tamaulipas.I hope all the Chapo ass kissers get it.treacherous dogs. What up with truce blo/cds? Chapo is gonna let his son death go over money?he is a piece of shit...Zetas will rule they have survived this long.

I´m sure people in Reynosa/Matamoros wish they were like in Juarez, Tamaulipas is was worse than Juarez, it´s just that the media wont talk about it. Sinaloa/Zetas alliance will NEVER happen, CDG has been killed off by the media since Osiel got caught and they still control their plazas, even with the zetas hitting them on all flanks they kept going on. Cartels like CDG, Sinaloa, Juarez and Tijuana may receive all the hits you want, but they are way too inserted in ther local society to dissappear, The real cartel leaders are connectet with politicians, business man, the church, etc. The only way out of all this violence is with a consolidation of cartels like before.

Think what you want about r1 not being rey de reyes thats what he wants he knows hes super burn with r1 when the war starts thats all youll be seing rey de reyes and i know for sure diablo is his nephew believe what you want this happens alot they change aliaces so they wont be on their trail

Arriba el Senor Chapo .R1 is now part of the team he is still in training with El Bravo. El Commandante Diablo is now about to complete his training with Los Talibanes. El Chapo Isidro does not take orders from Mochomo so he is still enemies with CDS but El mochomo understands Arturo was not betrayed .

If x20 is now the supreme CDG leader and he controls REynosa and matamoros and the other CDG strogholds, CDG can grow stronger. A unified CDG does not need CDS.However, x20 must soildify control and make sure his men make $$$$$

All this shit is confusing, Earlier articles said Puma and Gringo were killed for trying to get the Reynosa plaza for the zetas. Here it says Gringo had a pact with CDS and he was going to allow them to use the Ribereña and that's why X20 betrayed him. WTF is the truth?

Sinaloa can't do shit to CDG chapo can't even crontrol Sinaloa!! Lol cdg is stron as ever with their people in Zacatecas leaving Zacatecas to go to Tamaulipas and back up the cartel against chapo it would let the zetas come in to Guadalajara from Zacatecas and michoacan!! And other places around Mexico think about it, or what if cdg and zetas make a truce again if it gets really ugly they would control all of Mexico!!! Fuck chapo and his allies!!! I go for cdg if ya don't like it blow me! Lol reporting all the way from oxnard ca,

c.d.s will take over!!! The money they will generate in the Tamps. corridor will make them more powerful. tamps corridor is the MAIN DOOR FOR DRUG DESTINED EASTCOAST MARKETS. Every1 knows the major money is on the eastcoast

So the report states Chapo and Mayo Zamabada were in Matamoros? I find that very very hard to believe. Maybe they sent some of their reps to handle that, but traveling in that war zone with all that heat sounds fishy.

The truce about BLO and CDS still has everyone including myself puzzled. I know how effectively it can work, since it did at one time. But so much blood shed and so much tension has to exist amongst them.

I think Tamps is about to be turned into a graveyard. The writing is on the wall. CDG is severly weakend right now after the 3/10 battle. The Sedena is picking off the CDG sicarios. Chapo Guzmán feels X-20 betrayals have gone far enough. If it were'nt for CDS, the Zetas would have finished off CDG by now. Chapo has his people and the best of those who were CDG ready to do battle, and probably already has the proper federal authorities paíd off. The only thing that can deter that possible take over of Riberena/Reyn./Mata. plazas by CDS is by CDG to form an alliance with Miguel Treviño,Z-40, perhaps?! As far as BLO rejoining the ranks of CDS is due to the fact that it is a remnant of its former self. Chapo Isidro is probably strenghtening his control of what was once BLO, unless he is included in the alliance. Tamps. is entering is seasons in the abyss.

Lol....funny crap here.... this thing says AUGUST 2012.... THINGS ARE NOTHING AS THEY SEEM.... BUT DO EXPECT IT TO GET WORKED OUT...THE FIGHTING IN REYNOSA IS OVER PLAZA.... NOT ANYTHING ELSE PLUS THE ZETAS MADE A STRONG PUSH WITH THE HELP OF PUMA AND GRINGO....but thats done.... New Fedration has placed a MANTA already explaining all this.... R1... Metros... zeros....ciclones... all of these groups are unitied now to have CDG running as smooth as ever...But greed is a funny thing the more u have eventually the more u want..... THATS THE TRUTH !

April 1, 2013 at 11:35 PM "THIS IS R1 SENDING A MESSAGE TO EL GOLFO"Dude,some of it does make sense,everyone blamed Rs for m3 death,but then it came out that maybe r1 didn't have nothing to do with it,but was being blamed for killing him?Other messages are sayin same thing about Pelon,that HE is the traitor?Who knows for sure,but if this for real,it means more shit for Mexico and Tamps etc.

Well, I hear you. This was among the most difficult articles I have ever translated. I was fed up with it and did not go near BB after posting it I was so exhausted. Unhappy with my translation I called on three others to revise as it was murky in three places and confusing in 2. Of my helpers, Spanish is their first language.

So though I understand where you are coming from, this is the final edition, to understand it you will need a good grasp of the narco war. If you have a question just ask in comments.

The original author has to write a piece of quality to get quality, or garage in garbage out, but at the end I thought it was good, though I agree not great..... Paz, Chivis

This manta or narco mesaje does makes sense Remeber when M-3 got killed everyone blaming R-1 for M-3 death.R-1 is not a CDG member no more that's a fact,Puma and Gringo got killed by X20 that is a fact to.CDS is blaming X-20 and Metro-4 like traitors in the CDG.

All of this BS CDG happend when they caught R-1 brother and Tocayo in Reynosa remember?

Then M-3 got whacked but who was the responsible in putting the finger on R-1's brother and Tocayo?

good report bb something does concern me ive read in another website apparently cdg dont want to be cds bitch so there going to call a truce with blo but blo already has truce with zetas and caf and juarez how is all that going to play out my guess is 2 things finally everyone respect each other plaza and pay a fee when crossing shit or even worst everyone againts cds freaking bloodshed

I'm not a cheerleader for any cartel, but it seems that X20 is backstabbing everybody and if CDS taking over Tamaulipas means peace in the long run for all the innocent people in Reynosa so be it. I miss going to Reynosa with my family to buy meds or to eat a cabrito or some mariscos and beer at a low price. Most importantly I pray for the people there that are not involve in any of this but have to live this terrible nightmare. I will root for any cartel that will let the innocents work without taxing them and stop kidnapping for ransom.

you can email them to me...on this page on the far right column there is a list of reporters,,,,find my name and click on, there is a bio and under the avatar there is a "contact me" and a hyper link says "email" that will take you directly to me.

or...you can go to BB forum, and find my name under people

Another way to contact me is go to BB forum and click on "people" found on the header.

I am the first name on the list, click of chivis. You will see "email chivis" and it will take you to the email page. but I think you have to register there, on this page you do not.

It is somewhat difficult to understand whats really going on in this war. With so many things going on behind the scenes with mexican government officials, military, US DEA, CIA etc. Only what they want you to know comes out in the public. The information comes from a mix of narcomantas, uploaded videos, and what the people who actually live in the warzones say is really going on. All of those sources can have some propaganda or misleading info so that is why journalists have to do their best pick the right pieces and put the puzzle together. It is a very challenging job and I imagine very satisfying when you finally piece something together into a new story. Although sometimes I see articles that are pretty much direct translations of posts from other blogs and not original, I see no problem with that as long as the source is cited. There are many posts here that are original and for that I thank you. To get the best understanding possible you should not jist read BB but also other blogs and decide for yourself what is true through your own research and not just taking someones word for it. Kuerno762

I have serious doubts of a CDS/BLO truce considering the strong alligence between Z's/BLO. Everything else in this article seems legit. Cartel del Golfo and cabaleros templarios are both finished. It won't be CDS who finishes them off, it will be the internal fighting and backstabbing that will along with zetas seeing a target of opportunity. Also there goes the theory that the new LCT group called "los aliados" that is fighting CDNJ is backed by CDS (this new group killed a bunch of innocents at 2 bars in Guadalajara with gunfire and grenades this past weekend although the media doesn't want you to know this via orders of EPN).

Seems tht Mario Pelon X20, was prolly schooled by Z40. Betrayin all of his commanders. I actually believed the theory of Gringo and Puma openin plaza for Zetas, but now it all makes sence. X20 just a power driven traidor . RIP Gringo and Commandante Puma.

Just a fuckin rumor. In the drug game other groups do this shit, just try to stir things up.. I need more proof. I guess we'll just have to see. I just hope chapo doesn't betray his own son and join the beltranzzzzz

So rojos are now CDS, CDS and BLO have a truce except for Chapo Isidro. Chapo Isidro is now independent or is allied with zetas. And CDG is now facing CDS and Los Zetas. Is CDG still allied with knights templar? I know it is more complicated than this, but is this somewhat correct?

I believe that mochomi was set up by his brother or from some from blo camp that knew how arturo would react with the news of the capture of his brother. Acording to various versions it stated that mochomo sent a letter or a letter to arturo to relax. . How come to tito its alive? If chapo wanted to feud with mochomo he would have him killed due to the alliance he had blo. Jt has no choice but to take orders. Torres beef was with arturo and isidro and charritos. That's what I think

Kuerno762"not jist read BB but also other blogs and decide for yourself what is true through your own research and not just taking someones word for it" True enough,you would think that would go without saying,but i think not ?

1st of all chapo wont control any boarder state Not Coahuila, Not Nuevo leon, Not Tamaulipas, Not Baja California & certainly NOT Chihuahua! Except maybe Sonora that’s only because they are pussies/chapo fan boys & never had a cartel of their own.

2nd That also goes for the other cartels that try to take over another boarder state they Never called home in the first place

Proof: AFTER all these years they are still fighting with no end in sight!

Why won’t any cartel control any boarder state besides the one they call home?

Because of our culture…Us Mexicans are known for our love for country but what you Americans don’t understand or know is that the only thing we put before our country is OUR STATE! What Kids, don’t believe me? Go to the comment section in blog del narco someone will say “puro sinaloa etc” & it won’t be long before someone will respond “Fuck Sinaloa, puro whatever state they are from”

In other words, the only way there can be peace is if that piece of shit initiator of this war (chapo) finally understands that just paying the “tax” to the cartels on the boarders will end the war and in the long run, be more profitable.

The boarder states I mentioned (– Sonora) will continue to fight those “outsiders” till there’s no more locals left if need be. The locals take it as a slap in the face, humiliation if they let people from other states take over there’s.

Chapos mistake #1 he thought it would be easy just because he bought the, military and some U,S agencies are helping him. Mistake # 2 The local leaders that joined him purely for financial gain don’t last. Why? Because chapo turns them in, then what does he do..He puts someone from Sinaloa in charge. Then surprise surprise the local sicarios say fuck you & start defecting back to their old outfit.

Either way he won’t ever control those 5 boarder states he better realize that and just pay the fucking tax cheap motherfucker is supposedly a billionaire & he can’t pay a couple hundred thousand or even a mil or two?

The greedy short sited dumb fuck decided he didn’t want to pay those pennies (compared to what he allegedly makes) so now thousands of Mexicans have died & amidst the chaos smaller criminal groups decided to take advantage(kidnappers/car thieves/ serial killers/etc)

Sure, just like how gerrado ortiz was "authorized" to write and include "la familia es parte del equipo" in la ultima sombra which almost go him killed in Colima by "la resistencia" not know knowing that CDS/CDNJ were at war with LFM/la resistencia and thinking that the truce only that only lasted very little with CDS and LFM was still standing. I would venture to say that only a very small percentage of corridos are actually authorized by cartel members. So yes you are still naive.

Now ur just being an imbecil jerkoff!!...First of all,you mentioned Gerardo Ortiz,he's worse of an imbaci than you,he lives in the US.I'm talkin about the bands that interact with the big bosses(like el Piyuyis,from grupo Cartel,when he was personally asked by Chapo to stay with him and write corridor)so like I said now you're a naive imbecil.and don't be saying things you know nothing about.

Divide and conquer, I guess the old saying is more present than ever. Chapo has been expanding dividing the other cartels and then making truces with them, Chapo promised El Teo the Tijuana plaza so el Teo went to war with El Ingeniero, at the end el Teo went to jail and El Inge made a pact with Chapo to let his people work in TJ, Chapo offered the Juarez plaza to los Artistas and they broke up with CDJ now they made a pact and they share Chihuahua, Chapo offered help to La Familia Michoacana, then backstabbed them and now he has major presence in Michoacan, Chapo offered help to CDG against zetas and now aparently he will gain major terrain in Tamaulipas, Whats next? Chapo helping others take down Z40 and then gaining full control? I REALLY hate chapo, but the son of a bitch seems to know what he is doing.

Chapo hasnt won the war or the battle with the zetas,how is he gona take over reynosa, tamaulipas, etc etc.??? zetas will give him a war and a good one. Chapo couldnt finish beltran leyva eighter actually CAF, how funny to say CAF, but trully he pays pizo in tijuana. Juarez is allied with beltran leyva, Chapo and his gente nueva fucked up juarez. I just dont make sense to me how CDS and BLO have peace...I read some comments about chapo isidro destroying Los Antrax and Gente Nueva, Yup thats true. EL Chapo Isidro los acabo especially in sonora, when they marked the cars with an "X", and also he was killing them in culiacan. (pancho arce for example). He went to war with gente nueva in la sierra de choix, when Juarez Cartel rescued Chapito Isidro and gente nueva flew... I trully dont believe this truce with CDS and BLO, cuz the numbers are odd.

Whoever said that javier torres is going to take orders, is straight up F-Stupid! Hes coming out to be the boss!!! MP, Checo, andan limpiando para el jefe en puerto penasco, MEXICALI...ATT Chicali Torres!!!!!!

A CDS truce with BLO is smart and natural move seeing how BLO is so close to SDS homelands and heating up their plazas with high casualties. They remembered that the point of all this to make cash. Truce is good for business.

The CDS and CDG fall out also seems like a matter of course seeing how CDG developed factions (Rs & Ms) and the leaderships kept being replaced. If Chapo cut a deal with a particular boss, and then the guy disappeared, the deal must be reconsidered with the new boss, and his rivals, a very tricky situation.And the whole point of the CDS / CDG alliance was the prevent the Z from getting too strong, to contain the Z (probably accomplished). It remains to be seen whether Chapo has the strong to make a play for CDG territories, or he is simply no longer supporting them against the Z and leave at that. But I remember a cartel guy a while back interviewed said that in the end Chapo would take over Tamaulipas.Also, it seems natural that Z would make a play for Reynosa, if the CDG is indeed week, them being so close.

The BLO & CDS truce seems like an intelligent move by Chapo Guzman.Chapo Guzman is very smart as we all know. He will put aside the grudge he has with BLO to make job easier. Since CDS will go all out against CDG in Tamaulipas, he wont want attacks from BLO on his western strongholds while alot of his men are Northeast. Once CDS is finished with CDG he will end his truce with BLO.

I remember reading an article on here that talked about the government containing archives that talk about CDS plans on taking over territories in later months of this year. Its all very clear now that EPN censored the drugwar for all the bloodshed thats happening this year and what will come because of CDS takeover. EPN is with Chapo because of Salinas de Gortari being in office and having ties with Guzman.

I know we all have questions on this topic but I have one too. What will LFM do now that La Federation is no more?

The more I think about this, the more it seems a joke.First of all, this article is taking dramatic new slants on different topics: truce with BLO, and split with CDG. And the evidence for the truce is NONE, and the evidence for the split with CDG is a letter found on two bodies in Monterrey left supposedly on March 23, which comes to light on April 1st, fool's day????! This article was posted first by historiasdelnarco in Spanish, and who is the person who authored it? No one knows! And that story about sending forces to Matamorros then being stabbed in the back and making safely to Cuidad Victoria only with the with Rey de Reyes sounds cartoonish to me.The author of the letter knows a lot about the the cartel wars and its characters, is throwing names and situations around just to hook in people who love to read these intrigues and spices it up with 'new developments'

I know reading too much into corridos is bad because theyre not always accurate but some times they are....I cant remember the name of the corrido right now but it talked about el azul.... And it said how he wouldve lost his life in matamoros if it wasnt for el rey de reyes....i heard this corrido around January so it was waaaay before this story came out. I think the group was called la septima banda....so I believe everything this post says.

Kuerno762For real bro,you see it on here with some comments.I myself,check out some stories to find out,go looking,but,this is what BB is for,to educate people and let people know this is happening in Mexico and maybe something will be done to help?Naive i know,but,BB is one of the better English speaking sites to disseminate news to English speakers.It would help if our Mexican bros posted more on here without the anger and antagonism to you know who,but,it is what it is.Your advice is sound.

It might not be an April fool's day prank. During the trail Commandante Rincón, former head Río Bravo plaza, stated that M-4 smoked commandante Guerra at meeting he was to supposed to attend. He stated that him and Wicho escaped to the valley after they attempted a Gringo/Puma style ambush on them; presumbly by hitmen from Mata/Rey. Metros. Thats when they were captured by Border Patrol. There might be some truth to the message, since I believe the people of Tamps. might be weary of the voilence and may choose the takeover of the plazas by another cartel. Chapo could offer stability and peace from all the violence. The questions that arise from all this intrigue is who is really betraying who? And for whom?

Yu guys needa check out tht corrido, Los Caballeros - Grupo 360 . It basically says tht when El Mochomo gets out his gonna be with the same ppl he was with before he went to jail , with El Senor Dela Montana I think by now we all know who tht is. If ths corrido wasnt authorized by a higher power, I think tht group wouldve been in trouble. CDS BL 100'/. Same goes for Enigma Norteno - Las Palabras Del Mochomo .

CDS and BLO alliance? of course not, these guys are sworn enemies, they are killing each other. theres even an idiot here(april 2, 7:37am)saying that CDS & CDJ have formed an alliance, CDJ and BLO have made an alliance with Z for a reason and that is to fight CDS, do you really think they are gonna allign themselves with the backstabbing CDS, of course not. Its been proven more than once that chapo doesnt have the manpower to fight CDJ,BLO & Z all at the same time(even with help from the govt), so chapo cheerleaders here are trying to say they have formed an alliance.

The downfall of the Mexicano's siempre a sido, no poder compartir. The " orgullo " of being a Mexican is trumped by the " ogullo " of being either a Chihuahense, Sinaloaense, Nuevolense etc etc.... The American culture cannot understand unless you have truely lived amongst Mexicanos. It's not just like saying, I rep the East Coast and you rep the West Coast. There is total " arrogance and ignorance " that cannot simply be washed away. Until one is blessed with having many friends from the Republica and being humble with one-self you can comprehend it. But to see how different cartels " hate " with a passion other members, hatred that drives these people to do the most gruesome murders. It puts alot in perspective. I can understand the money involved, the greed factor but where does one say because of the fact we are honestly destroying our " gente " Pancho Villa, Emilio Z etc etc would roll over in their grave to see how these people have treated one another.

CDG should be renamed CDT because all they run besides their mouth is Tamps. Cartel de tamps. At least el pelon seen the inevitable and thats trust no midgets. M.O.M. money over midgets. Why's everyone acting like chapo don't back stabb. AFO, BLO, Juarez, and god knows who else.

Gotta laugh at all these retarded ass comments. Every Damn stinking cheerleader on here is crying that Chapo betraid these guys and those guys, these are criminals where talking about!! Since when was there any honesty or real honor in the drug game? Who are you clowns trying to kidd? It just proves that you are a cheerleader for one of Chapo's enemies, BLO, Z, CDJ, CT, CDG, they all betray each other because of greed.

"The American culture cannot understand unless you have truely lived amongst Mexicanos"Assumptions.I wrote on here weeks ago about the CT saying we will protect"our people"Michoacan,from anyone.I went on to say who do they think they are,you are all Mexican,not Sinaloa,not Juarez,Tijuana,Michoacan,etc,i recognized this.This comes before Mexico?Why?You see it all the time so to say we don't understand it is naive.Every country has regional differences and accents,customs,but Mexico has taken it to a different level,state comes before everything even Mexico as a whole

The beltran leiva are in war only with the zambada organization, not with joaquin and el vicentillo killed edgar not the los blo. My parents live in the sierra in badiraguato and all is in peace there.