I also did me the same questions? will this Shushiwa? this be true? and allowed me to ask ... why not?.because Sensei Kenjiro "Kishaba" Kuniba, would deliver his student, a photo of someone saying that was Shushiwa, and really is not? If these people were from a school Pan Gai Noon or Uechi, you may have an interest us believe is a hoax, but for them it is someone else Shushiwa among many other Chinese masters. You are writing the book is not about our style or Shushiwa is a book on Budo, from the point of view of Okinawan karate of Shuri, closer and more connected to the styles Shorin.Really if we can not be absolutely certain, I find it easier, for these things I've outlined above, believe, think it's a hoax, as it would be useless deception that would produce no significant benefit to the alleged deceptive.

Kuniba, not being a UechiRyu practitionerand possibly knowing only the briefest history of Uechi Ryu, simply trustedthe word of someone who gave him erroneous information and a picture.Likely, neither that person nor Kuniba intended to deceive or mislead, justmade a mistake and didn't do the research very well. The focus of his bookon Budo wasn't the detailed proved history of Uechi Ryu, nor would such anirrelevant mistake have much impact on the book's content.

From another contact I am told that there are some photos of Shushiwa, owned by a researcher who will be writing a book, that depict Shushiwa from his childhood years through adulthoodand none of them look anything like the man claimed to be Shushiwa.

These photos were provided bythe Shushiwa Family who verify that the photo/drawing of Shushiwa hanging in mostdojo is in fact him.

And that the man in the picture (looks like an engraving) is thin while the photos ofShushiwa from his early 20's onward are of a man with well-roundedfeatures and a rather large body.

And that the photo/charcoal drawing of Shushiwa hanging inmost dojo is a faithful copy of an original photo hanging in the altar toShushiwa in the Family home.

I must say that Sensei Bob was right, write the subject to see this post, and this is what I wrote in private

I:hello friend, in our way we have a very interesting forum where people involved in the school, please watch this very interesting post that photo development Shushiwa, a hugviewtopic.php?f=2&t=21807&start=15

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thank you very much for the message and the information I'm not interested leido.realmente enter the forum because if I'm totally honest I do not know in depth the Uechi Ryu and not know how to respond to questions from peers budokas .. I said q Kishaba sensei had given me some lithographs and other things but never told them therefore to assert that I gave shusiwa's not correct. Cave also the possibility that it was a mistake of the mine or it or misunderstood as I am not expert in nihongo. question is all I have to say about it and have my permission to copy and insert it in my answer everything exactly as I wrote it .. thanks and my respect.I'm on a tour that martial x had not responded earlier.

1:22. I:Sorry to correct but you told me that picture of Shushiwa was one of the lithographs he had received from kisaba senseiHere is his letter:Okinawa Bujutsu Kyokai Hozon:nothing brother in the arts .. like I said part of my book is written with the information I have gathered during my life in this way. The "picture" is one of several lithographs I have in my possession that were given to me by my teacher Kenjiro "Kishaba" Kuniba.On August 12 the (s) I 20:07:

This from my student Fred Chanel...interesting posting with his permission

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Hi Van,How are you? I hope all is well. My dojo keeps getting bigger and I find myself a prisoner of my own success in terms of getting out and about to other dojo.

I also as you may know, returned to college, and graduated In the top 5% of my class in history. So I look very critically at these things. I routinely examine documents from the 17th and 18th century.

Last year I was reading an invitation to dinner and found at the bottom it was from George Washington, that was quite exciting.

My most recent project has been authoring a book about an ancestor, the driving force of writing it has been based upon a rare photo of a Revolutionary soldier. Less than thirty of these men existed long enough to be captured in photographs.

That image looks entirely too modern to be Shushiwa or even from the time period. It is obviously not a photograph but some type of drawing. Photography began in 1837 and by the 1850's was widespread, although I am not entirely sure about the availability of it to men in remote villages in China. There could in theory be many photographs of Shushiwa.

A mystery does however exist with the picture we all hang in the dojo. I was talking to a retired police officer and student of Jack Summers who told me he was involved in the caravan that took Kanei Uechi and some Chinese guests toThompson Island.

I was told by him that the picture was presented to someone at that time by a Chinese master. On the back of the photo was some writing. From there the photo was supposedly taken to a police crime lab and multiple copies were duplicated.

At this time of course photos were tough to copy, especially without negatives. So maybe if this original someday turns up we may have something.

Most historical writings on Uechi and the system are based upon secondary information and not the primary evidence historians build books and thesis upon.

Even the excellent information given to us by Toyama before his death is so far after the fact that it would be brought to question by an impartial scholar. I myself are glad we have it, because I don't know if better evidence will ever surface.

Re: Journey to Fuzhou and the "Search for Shushiwa"There is a 3 DVD set (at the Uechi store) relating to the 1984 trip to China that Kanei Uechi, Ryuko Tomoyose, Marty Dow, Buzz Durkin, Jon Mills and I took at the invitation of the Fukien Wushu Association, following their one year research relating to Uechi-ryu's history in China. Following is the section where the photo of Shushiwa was introduced to the Western world.

have opportunities to consult Sensei R. Campbell, to see if this has any degree of accuracy?

Zheng Bu Su (also known as Zheng Xianji (郑仙纪, 1854-1929)) was one of the most famous masters (5th Generation) who opened a school in Fuzhou and had taught many disciples however many became associated with the Taiping Tianguo uprisings and during the tme Zheng Xianji reduced his teachings in favor of conducting revolutionary activities. In his later years, his most well known disciple was Zhou Zi He (周子和,) also know in Japanese as Shushiwa.

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