Exploitation in the Muslim Community – How Fringe Religious Groups Form

assalamu aleikum wa rahmatullah wa barakato group Group ISM and sectarianism is one of the main challenges within the Muslim community the Quran says what awesome will be happened in Lehi Jemmy annual a tough arauco hold tight to the Rope of Allah and do not become disunited one of the main groups that facilitates a disunity is the Salafi publications this is at least the allegation we'll be talking about this and more things which are quite severe today with dr. Hopp Quebec Abdul Haq Baker dr. Abdul Haq Baker is a professor in political sciences who has published a book on extremism and is notable in the community he will be shedding light on his interactions with this group the subgroup that claim to be Salafi and as a result of that claim consider other people other Muslims to be innovators and treat them with a high level of disrespect what will be unraveled in this discussion is some frankly quite hard claims that are made against this group regarding how they interact with not only Muslim people generally but that how they may be exploiting certain vulnerable Muslims in the community including women it's important that Muslims and non-muslims alike are aware of this not only because it shows that were being self reflective in a greater Muslim community sense but because people do need to be warned against the excesses and the exploitative practices of such group members for this reason this interview with a black Baker where he attempts to actually provide evidences which will be providing the disc books is an important one for UK Muslims and Salafis in particular who interact with other selfies and might be at risk of potential harm from both an ideological perspective and from on a pragmatic level so we'll go straight into the interview and I want you to your own words describe what Salafism or sell a few Dowell what does it mean to you salaphi Dow means referring to the illustrious times of death to harbor the Sahaba companions of the profits of the Lycian and the succeeding two generations because if these were the errors that were attested to by the promises that must be in the best so salafiyyah salafism references that and authenticity that emanates from that particular period as well as the methodology in disseminating understanding and contextualizing the practice of Islam right so now what people find is that a lot of people call themselves Salafi and they ascribed particular groups and sects in your understanding is this what you make of Salafism will sell a few down no because Salafi Dawa salafism is not a set or a group contrary to common academic perspectives are being put out concerning it there is no group in the sense that you have to belong and have membership to an organisation the description to the seller and not only the description just lip service but in your character in your application in your approach in your interaction in Deen and dunya these are the elements that showed that that ascription is actually being embodied by that particular individual right so now I'm coming more into like the UK context and the Dower that has been done in the UK the propagation of islam through a Salafi lens if you like my question now is with your interaction with different Salafi groups well you found generally to be the case in terms of groupers and insects up until a particular point in the nineties when I could be gangs in 1990 up to the mid 90s there was uniformity and there was one main organization Jim asked a mechanic moujik Minh had a Sunna which was consolidating the body of Muslims in a sense in his in his own way it was a hit and we gradually moved away from that but there was unity on the on the whole with the Muslims and the Dow art was being spread engaging across universities with the wider Muslim populace and people genuinely liked the message of Sophia and the behavior of the selfies at that time there was that excessiveness to an extent but we were out looking and embracing that changed when we saw I will say in the West for the first time the emergence of a cult so what is this cult would you link it directly with the silicon publications and what would you say this actually this division took place this division is very good and putting in question it refers to sell a few publications who emerged on the 8th at the end of the fracturing of Jameson the members of Jim Adler and I would say personally a key proponent and a key I'd say aspect of that emergence was to do with an individual who then joined the ranks of the Salafis of the wire Allah Hubble Khadijah hmm and towards the end of 95 and especially in 1996 we saw movements and read consolidation of some of the former members of Hamas around and behind Apple Khadija and this was something surprising because I didn't know where he came from many of us didn't know where he emanated from he wasn't on Serafina or even existing as a selfie in the early part of the 90s as we were writing and the further wouldn't sell if he publications in the initial stage they called themselves ASIS well that's contrary to what he says in one voice not that we've picked up from him online where he says that he was maybe upon Salafi own his own words from the earth from the late 80s early 90s all that footage that you you picked up he claimed that he was Salafi from 1988 and that he was learning from students of knowledge who were going to the scholars I will say categorically that's a lie in 1992-1993 his brother approached a balloon Tasya the head optimist asked him if some brothers could give dower to his brother Abu Khadijah after white because he was on the quote jihadi wipe following what was taking place in Bosnia what does that mean exactly what did you did you see any kind of extremism well for the understanding that the jihadi bride was one of attack Theory karate boy and it was his brother and brought that to the individuals and I know individuals who went and gave him dower they've communicated with me directly we were amongst that group who communicated with him gave him dower and then he started coming to the Salafi way right and so his breaking away from the main body of Saladin as it were and making his own group up and actually sign up as a company changing into a charity getting funds from government getting funds from the general public you're saying that was a pivotal turning point and 1996 was a year yes you can report with the Oasis conference in what they did is most of the known speakers from selfie earn groups sensitive group Hamas including sheiks of paper they produce a paper Sonya they put all our names on a poster saying there was going to be a conference we'll put this poster ah yes it's all put the poster in the description box and or you'll be seeing it here and what's interesting about that I poster when you look at the lineup there are two columns and you'll see the – why the sheiks our home yeah so much Nicholas I'm happy going down after Rahim green individuals like this will saw my house I'm from Queens now all Quilliam the next column started with my name at the top but and you'll see the Abba Khadijah and I'm get Rafiq were further down on the second column indicative of their significance I know this was in feigning piety to to try shall we we caught my name's at the top because we're not so renowned alumnus to our to that particular time but your name was on this as well my name was on the beginning of the second contract so they didn't tell me about this they didn't notify a number of you so you can your name was on it I mean you don't nobody know about it when I saw this I considered it as many of my colleagues in Brixton this was a Power Move that they were making you soon claimed ascendancy and I said I will not even attend the conference what you're effectively saying is that they tried to grab market share from the seller for community yes to get everyone from all these other yes right to come to their group and so that they can kind of break away with them yes and this is the thing it's interesting you use the term breakaway because there you have since that time until now light to the scholars saying the individuals are attacking the seller fees then and are breaking away and splitting from them when the actuality as you proceed down the years and the evidence has been produced by myself and some of my own podcasting and such like you'll see that while the name of the clock Chronicles of UK Salafism right and then the more specific documented things that I've been doing for about two years now cultures tendencies so they'll be in the description box for those who won't watch and in those you'll see the breaking of agreements which they accused others off but it was them who continually did not and consistently did not adhere to agreement what sort of weight on them is there any evidence of that yes so for example one of this one of the agreements that was quite public was the one in 1999 yes between the seller the seller fees in Brixton and Luton on the one hand and then you had those in Birmingham and a model B personality was was there as one of the the arbitrator as you can see all the judges could you tell us a little bit more about that agreement what happened that how how was that kind of reformulated utter right very very good question in 1999 a Bahasa and mattre be assumed a man he was called and Matra because at Newton Yemen he became very well known due to a sitting that he had with check out of an Amish a fella banging at the time now there was excitement about the level of knowledge that they were hearing in the industry sex and it was being translated to us so he was invited to the UK we invited into a return to in conference in Brixton and he accepted their own invitation when he came to the masculine we were ready to explain the program we received a phone call from a mother ship who was a Medina student and Farouk since passed away Rome a lot from East London they insisted on coming the seniors ship they came in to visit the the Sheikh and we were like they gatecrash them for in the Sheikh said no I'm your guest let me see who I want to see and they came in a very pompous letter we are from self few publications we want to sit with you to ask if you will arbitrate in a matter that dispute we have between Newton I didn't mention us between Birmingham and Newton and they start their letter started words of praise from de Scarlett Escada discard that's why I say pompous Allen haff then agreed and said he will sit and preside over that affair they should bring their evidences he made time for them he changed the whole program with the conference and we were bit disheartened about that and when he listened to Luton he said I see Brixton as having similar grievances you haven't complained but you are closer to Luton new to a one-party Birmingham or another party after process of arbitration getting to the point he sat and he gave he's decisive ruling on the affair wave shakes an American ally and doctor Giovanni was there with him and they were 26 I believe points and they gave those points but then they contacted Sheikh Rabia and said we want you to read these points about mathematically we wanted you to read these points and confirm whether you find them acceptable and you agree with them you have any evidence for this I have the original agreement Arabic I have the translation from dr. G Bailey and I have the audio when Sheikh when when abu hassun sat and read out the points with both parties gathered at that time so I'll put on the description course Arabic in English yes and if you want the audio it's quite grainy but you can still hear our model has some speaking at that time is it's coincidental because on that day and I don't say this such is the cowardice of these individuals our Khadija had excused himself and I believe he generally genuinely was travelling to Kuwait to see our Ana's but he'd written to or given a message to other Hasan to say that he does you will not be there but he will abide by whatever agreement was there and I would have sent fainted that Joaquin was there Mirada desert yeah I'm a bishop so what happened now when they wrote the agreement they fasted to shake Rabia he was on the phone I left the Brixton office cuz we couldn't receive faxes we could send faxes and I went to the highroad there was a Muslim hardware store for spunky I called the brothers I'm coming with giving you a number for fat shake Rodney's Denise ending effects I received a fax personally I don't speak Arabic so I can't say what was in there and everything I walked back handed it to Hassan Sheikh see me it was still on the fun to shake regret then they break it up and it was they confirm the shake foot rub he confirmed his endorsement and acceptance and yummier that's their shake Robbie's original handwritten note with his signatures as well and what happened thereafter clearly there was upset by one sight bourbon in sight and after Mohammed Sheikh Salim asked us to come out to the conference audience and give a few words to say that in general words were given about slaw and coming together with brothers beloved aims I've got that cassette as well if you want me to send giving you that everyone spoke but they shortly afterwards we heard about Mirada chapters Josiah was one of it was one of them from Manchester who they likened to that Ali Medini of the UK this is what they said about him it was fine but he was written off shortly afterwards by them as well and he went to Saudi and he met sheikh Robert and basically it was the process of then undoing the agreement and to our surprise Sheikh Robby reneged and canceled his endorsement of the agreement all of this yeah I saw him when you saw that we were very surprised jordania shook of a surprise but because he this was the for us he had the ability to do that yes because everyone would look to shake Robbie over these Affairs and the Jordanians were close to shake Robbie at the time as well so when we saw this we thought we know we've had any choice but to say we are no longer with this agreement but until this day now and probably after this recording and interview with yourself we may have angiography doctor and let the feet coming back with these pages of reputation other than how cool to be sitting at little bit touches up this is I think you know what we're gonna talk about I'm gonna feel right now it every moving in just a second finish this point because we need to know war what these characters not individuals who actually who facilitated this breakaway and who in your in your understanding facilitative of this cult yes well at the helm was Abu Khadijah of the why they laugh about how King Billy Davis use of Bowers and génifique these were main protagonists and going on this you mentioned some of the antagonists of buildings ahead of a Hadiya Bill Davis who's full Davis and a few so could you tell us what the level of training and qualification is in the Islamic Sciences very rudimentary if that and I'm not professing diverse students knowledge no in another academic field yes but let's start with Bill and Davis Paul Davis Apple hockey a blacking felled in Medina University on a number of occasions okay repointing kept trying reapply I'm gonna being out there with warmer up on one occasion and meeting him and the brothers told me he's reapplying yet again to get back into University and he felt so unless he's got any qualifications after that he's Arabic was quite good and from what I understood from those who know and heard his Harbach and listen to he was good in these proficient in Arabic but he didn't graduate like a number of them I don't actually know in myself I did you try and babble Khadija I believe was got a degree in teaching and not much else other than that I'm genifique from the point of academia and he's quite a good scientist yes he's got I believe he's got a PhD in biochemistry and I actually read a very good paper and it's unfortunate as I read this paper when he was criticizing me for speaking from the realm of academia but he wrote a very good paper with two months limb academics on pasteurized milk so from that perspective I said in one of my series that he should stick to his lane remain in his lane about pasteurized milk and I suppose that I would say this in respectful of disrespectful way if he knows about regurgitation okay and if that's his Lane then I call him according to what he specialises in it the milkshake so that's his speciality so there's no miss lemon no but we know that he's an avid keyboard warrior and warrior from the pages that even these people why do they not come out to the public realm and face the public I mean you only hear I mean rarely do you see videos of those individuals you hear voice notes you see pages that they've written and put up on you know their Twitter feeds on up you don't actually see them coming up what is the reason for that I would say amongst leadership you will see one to cowardice amongst the leaders and you'll see an element of house Negro ISM from those who follow I will Khadija as lackeys which is which is unfortunate or fortunate what I would say though and say to qualify now I'm not speaking about some of the followers of the cult because many of them are sincere yes many of them any Muslims my PhD talks about stages of development with regards to youthful foundational stages and we published it yeah it might be at least published yes the boss called discreteness in them it's confronting terror attack and empty shower and so I talked about those stages so you can see that they're the very beginning rudimentary stage that many of us must have gone through when we converted to Islam or when we reverted as the second-generation Muslim third generation will spin so I don't include them when I'm talking at this level of critiquing yeah well we're not speaking about the leader mr. Bishop it's unfettered Hammami is another individual who's got his PhD I think he studied he did it on TAS tier of Quran in this instance he studied and supervisors yes one of the supervisors was a specialist in eroticism and translated a book from Tartine see who's a rafflesia and so but I hit this and our research and my colleagues research and he's written something like 50 pages about Abdul Allah and in my series called silence of the Lamb and I bring this evidence yes and so we say why he was involved in some controversy surrounding raisins knows that as well yes surrounding and Omar was here talking about you know keep up the comply all of that yes yeah saying that they're not actually in 1996-97 when I went on Omar and I met Abdullah there there he was working in the school dharmaiah which I subsequently worked in got a job and worked in afterwards I remember him studying with student calls from Sri Lanka called yeah yes in me and that student was teaching something that was very doubt for them worrying but I've didn't there had embraced that because he came to me and showed me an open the first page of a book from shaken sangmi and pointed to the introduction in arabic again insan' he told me he read it in Arabic and he said shaken save me and he referred to shake him in bars I'm not selling food they are Hamburg and I have challenged him even shake Robbie's house in 2002 when we had to meet for another slap and I said I'm going to bring to shake a rug beer what you said about the key Bart Willem are that they will not sell a few no she wasn't been saying this for for them this is a big disgrace to say something like that yes and he went paler than usual and put his head down and said I was very foolish at that time but that doesn't suffice as a recantation right and to date I will continue to say to the camera you need to recount we don't see much recantation from this group anyway because it's arrogance yes this is a premise of arrogance they would rather disparage shoe York as we've seen that they've done and if I can say for the record rather Mohamed many are using the term that they've dropped many chinook and I think we need to redress that the shoe you realized the reality of them and left them or advise them and as a result of that they saw it necessary to disparage those you even going and lying to the ship that they go to think they're actually but we don't restrict to one or two New York and then getting edicts Ottawa and evidences Egret even if they were general to disparage Doshi you could say we've left them because they were on the sky how many did they have and how many do they have the last count that I when I did in one of my series was around 26 but I'm sure that they were once with now against them or not with them okay now I believe there's just three of them after what we see is that while we respect over Lamar we saw from the cult as I called in my wickedly J's is why I called them we saw from them that they're raising of scholars who did not have official positions other than teachers for example or seniority to give fatwa from Saudi Arabia and this was confusing a number of Salafis who began to see the shook as the shield the scholars that you have to go to and you saw in direct this iseman of scholars big scholars like shake up and once enough in that bad we saw disrespect being meted out to shake waseela Abbas who had met these individuals personally in Birmingham and spoken concerning them so actually refuted them my name he did and then you see that Amal Khadijah and others then felt it upon themselves took it upon themselves that they could speak disrespectfully against scholars and you see that now from one of their longtime scholars sheikh mohammed bin ali he had ever worked for 20 years yes who some of us had disagreements with and split from because of his he's favori and listening to them as though they were the only seller fees and a clear selling fees among the seller fees in the West and let's say probably they laughed so clear that they're transparent you can see from them that's as clear as they get so that is what we saw from them with regards to the scholars now they are down to not even a handful scholars now so they praise excessively and then they and then they dispraise yes successively as we saw in the document that I've given to Muhammad Ali Hasan they called him allama Ali Hassan has spoken we wait for the latch not to correct his mistake this document this is an email Abu Khadijah so it was challenged they were challenging the legend of the Energy Council of Saudi Arabians they see is the ultimate authority yes and then they quickly this brazen email 5th of October 2000 from Hubble Khadija in the groups they emailed it to and beat both works at lab ah and Hassan has spoken and this is a thing that they do then he becomes the chef tattle cook against for all they become item take that is removed and it just become a regular job yeah and this has another case yes and this is something that is really strange in Islam yes a sheikh is a shit yeah he loses knowledge is actually exactly right so know one thing once otherwise did the divisive nature of this group you talked about one of your main concerns working with the community of a grassroots level you very well known in South London for doing that is that this actually calls family strain family problems between even husband and wife we've got reports that elbow khadija for example would be responsible for the horses and actually you could say misplaced you could say you know meddle with family business yes it's just all these true rumors I've got first-hand accounts from X MUX about individuals who I'm in touch with now now they split him from his wife so what can you tell us is this a case study here this is a case study but I will refer to the one I've got documentation from right I mean awaits a student in Modena right and started getting calls from his wife because she was being approached from some of the cult members sisters and saying that your husband has taken a position but about the tip in a scholar right I can't recall which is one of the big scholars and the husband and it was a point of for all not my son there's a big issue here and basically those sisters were saying that your husband is not sarahfey and they were being driven by their husband to do this and he was writing and the brother who was an arbitrator came to me and said can I share this information with you I didn't know what I could do in that instance but he shaved and I read the information and letters from the brother after communication and he said I want to speak to uh Khadija how am I not sarahfey how what are these individuals doing then he wrote to another brother my family I do not know where they are Wow when he went back to the UK to Birmingham they've been moved from their home by a provision by the demotic a lot they've been relocated okay yes from and he said this is what they have done I don't know where my wife is Wow so this was something that was very serious and I couldn't provide you with the letters and everything it was written using an English Bible by the brother and as I've set up even communication with other individuals who have told me what happened with regards to the occult to be involved in splitting their wife from fonda what is the incentive for this I mean when they do that when they split their for example is there is there a marital incentive did you think that they try and maybe get married to these women after they've been divorced or and I can't say what incentive is yes but then you do see marriage afterwards to the most orange member so wait so you're saying there's a trend of after separation between someone for example that they disapprove off that they themselves would put themselves forward for or someone who's approved by them for much yes well that says a lot to be honest with you and is it what else is there in terms of incentive what is driving these individuals to be like that so divisive and sorry into and their power and control power and control yes I know students of knowledge who have graduated from Wadena living in Saudi Arabia and you can see that they are mouthpieces for these individuals and they're almost scared to interact with other individuals who are known seller fees because of what may happen as a result they may send out general emails of things that are translated and I might speak to one or two of them and they blind copy me and other individuals in case the girls from the mock sob are seeing that they're including individuals who they have issues with this is this bullying you can only bully weak people and the bully themselves a weak as you know and this is a manner that they've got when more robust individuals come and confront or speak not just I'm not talking just about violence in that instance but when they know individuals have a bit of testicular fortitude if you like you will see them very cautious in that particular instance um I'll give an example I want to make sure I'm giving evidence when Salafi man hatch my colleagues in Brixton did this booklet to refute use of Bowers who gave a revisionist version of Salafi down which completely false and he included Brixton in that document was compiled with research interviews everything that could be made available and a visit was made to him to give him a letter to verify and maybe draw the revisionists lights that he'd said on youtube before they launched his document when they went up to Birmingham to deliver the letter I hate seem to have no violence or anything like this he refused to come out of his house they asked him to meet somewhere he said what do you want I want to give you something and infused to come I said please deliver it to my shop of chicken shop or whatever shot Lee had why do I bring this this is a trend of these individuals the leaders and I repeat it's cowardice plain and simple well you've given us a lot of information if you've basically showed us that there have been people that have been breaking their agreements the initiators of division division within family and you've given a case study example which I'm sure the evidence will be in the description box you've you've got chronicles which people can refer to that outline all of these things in chronological format with documentation with documentation as well I mean documentation from them from that way I'm not giving things I've just told you that email from Hubble Khadija noted the 5th of October 2000 documents from them what now as a final question my question is what advice would you give to someone who is stuck in this in this group in the sect what would you do Oh kind of us would you give them maybe they maybe they've realized these things that you're talking about and they've had suspicions of it what is he main kind of overarching but it gives me my watch and advice would be that these are a very small insignificant but loud cut and they only have to refer to a cult that emerged in Dessau Arabia with the juhayman and how they started the one who tried to overtake the one foeman's held a harem the madam of the makkah for siege and how they emerged in the beginning they had scholars with them right before they went to their extremes chez Caliban Sheikh bin bass shake all sake of shaker and mock me I mean up in Balad Philippines no wearing the same skills of the three first feet I've mentioned but as a student because he gave a detailed account of being with them and when they started pulling away from these individuals and left them completely and when you look up but the parallels that are there you'll see that there's an extremism behavioral extremism not violent extremist tap-tap theory you'll see this of behavioral extremism and Gulu among this cult in splitting disparaging and marginalizing anyone who does not agree with their view and there's an element of shake worship here we are Salafi z– what excessive I would say in our condemnation of individuals who follow the map when you say shit or worship and you're using in the math for example sense yeah yeah in the sense that now you'll see that the type of blind following they do or shake rub it nothing a lot it's reprehensible more reprehensible than those who are following the mother in form of that now and this is these individuals who want to pull away only have to look at that look at the parallel with a demon and what happened there look at the parallels with the blind following that they are calling to yet condemning others who are blind for me well I'm following like usually like you said people that much more worthy of being followed them exactly and that's not to detract I'm not going to comment on the repute and marrakesh a grubby easy either big swallow however we know with Sophia that we do not blindly adhere to any scholar anyone can be run just prophet sallal Islip and we have the precedence of the Imams who have spoken I would also say to them once they're pulled away they have nothing to fear from these individuals you will see a regurgitated refutation condemning them from the milk shake this is what he does best but it has non bite to it so do not be afraid of them they are not to be feared in any shape or form they can go to us the last three scholars they have a will whoever they are and get condemnation of you if it's untruthful sb11 it monkey why fear their word or the lies they tell to scholars to condemn you this this is my message in my advice and I say that salafiyyah is not this Salafism is not this we are salafi x' have some blame I think generally because we have been stagnant in our engaging and embracing the wider Muslim community seller fear as we said from the outset is adherence to the first three generations and the scholars are up on that way but it's not just lip service there is there is some work and efforts that need to be put into that that is what seller fear is we need to look and we need to refer to the key bar orlimar who have the wisdom the insight the hikmah adhere to them and look out for those individuals and this is a clear thing my last one I say look out for individuals who do not call to themselves they call to the Dean they do not call to their group to their organization they call to the Dean and they refer you to the key part number you do that you will not fall this way or that way with regards to caught ISM or groups that browbeat you to adhere to their objectives I'm sure that the people can reference your book they can go and see all the evidences it's been excellent and make in your diet I mean I will then likewise please discipline ah thank you what welcomers while it's inside

23 Replies to “Exploitation in the Muslim Community – How Fringe Religious Groups Form”

Listen to what the noble sheikh ibn al-uthaymeen May Allah have mercy upon him, said about the difference between calling yourself a 'SALAFI' and actually living salafiyyah.https://youtu.be/2v_qeMxc_vY

Usama Hasan one of the founders of the quillium foundation was an early member! No wonder he now views all orthodoxy as extremist he may have been heavily abused by this cult and it left him jaded to the point of thinking all practising Muslims are as evil as them!

Some issues that ought to be corrected or addressed. 1. Being a fringe group doesn't mean anything. They (SPUBS) will use the fact that the believers are always strangers to uphold the fringe argument.2. They have misled the public and those who seek out Salafiyyah big time. The methodology is not the way of the likes of those who they claim to follow like Al-Fawzaan, Abdul-Muhsin, the Lajna. Nor is their method following in the way of Al-Albani, Ibn Baz or Al-Uthaymeen. They quote selectively from these scholars trying to give their followers the impression that they are with the scholars. They are far away from the scholars. 3. They have made Shaikh Rabee into an 'imam'. Who from the senior scholars of our present time has called Shaikh Rabee an Imam? Former head of Hadeeth Dept at Madinah yes. Knowledgeable for sure but nowhere near the status of those mentioned above.4. You should mention SPUBS on the title. An increasing number of people are leaving this cult for obvious reasons. Some of them are hovering on the fence thinking how could they have been misled for so many years and all those so called allegations turning out to be true as more and more people come out. Fence sitters need to leave this cult before they ruin both their dunya and aakhira. For the SPUBS blind followers or the sa'aafiqah we made duaa.

This is what happens when young ignorant muslims think they know more than Islamic scholars who spent their life studying… Its fine to disagree with an idea but to be so arrogant and rude towards elderly scholars? That is WRONG! thank you brother Hijab for exposing these spoiled children who think they know everything

Not very good experience with these so called salafis. My advice especially for reverts – just stick to the main body of Muslims, don't go to these splinter groups, you won't find ideal, as we all do mistakes, but Islam is not that rigid and strict as they trying to make it

Why do Muslims have this urge to launder their disagreement in public? Practicing Muslims follow the Salaf As Saleh as instructed by Prophet Muhammed sallAllahu Alaihi Wasallam are not Salafis rather they call themselves as Muslims.

I strongly suggest to work toward unification of all groups. Everyone believes they are on right side of the river. To elaborate, I believe that there are agreements on 95% of the issues. Yet the stress is on the 5%. Let’s focus on the 95% instead of 5%.

This is very illuminating on the cultish tendencies of the salafi movement, it would be interesting to discuss the geopolitical ramifications of this group in supporting saudi foreign policy (not to be confused with classical salafi islam).

Isn't Abdul haqq baker a spy for prevent? , I'm from brixton and that is what many claim about him . Please clarify

The self-proclaimed "Salafists" are nothing but uneducated stupid morons undergoing a religious adolescence. They diverged from Salaf's path from the very beginning when they called and named themselves "Salafi…." which the Salaf themselves didn't do. This idiotic movement of Slafism is a Saudi-American made ideology to distract the Ummah and serve their own political objectives.