Negative Salaries, Negative Bailout And Now Negative Gold - Greece Just Became The Bankster's Paradise

While Iceland is now known as the country that is the closest earthly approximation to banker hell, it is safe to say that Greece is the terrestrial equivalent of banker heaven. Because as explained earlier today, the country's population is about to get a worse deal than your average run of the mill slave - they may get whipped, but at least never have to pay for the privilege, unlike the Greeks. Hence negative salaries. As also explained, the European bailout of Greece, is now formally a Greek bailout of Europe, funded by the country's already negative primary surplus, or better said - deficit (don't try to make mathematical sense of that - a scene out of Scanners is guaranteed). Hence, negative bailout. But the piece de resistance, and the reason why Greece is the in situ version of bankster heaven is the news from the NYT that Greece is also about to have negative gold.

Ms. Katseli, an economist who was labor minister in the government of George Papandreou until she left in a cabinet reshuffle last June, was also upset that Greece’s lenders will have the right to seize the gold reserves in the Bank of Greece under the terms of the new deal.

Well, they may be broke, and they may be bailing out Europe, but at least they'll have no gold: sounds like a sweet deal - it makes perfect sense that Greeks are taking every incremental humiliation from a syndicate of few fat, bald types who have access to a digital money printer, with the supine determination of an Oliver Twist.

It would be easy enough if you were a greek worker to actively sabotage assets the bankers want. Unfortunately making ugly what the banks want involves a bit of self inflicted pain. Surpassing this pain envelope is what the squid fears the most, thats why they shroud all their "new deals" in such finesse.

If the deal has been signed and the gold is not in Greek possesion I would say its game over. It would be like Leonidis saying Molon Labe and then realizing that his men already gave away their weapons.

I'm as bullish on gold as the next guy. Just beware that if you believe these markets are manipulated, do not disregard the possibility that gold SALES coud be taxed at 50% (or pick a number). Or even if they talked about doing this, guess what would happen t gold prices? What a cool way for the banks to scoop up more gold!

Gold bulls, just beware that we are not bullet proof. They can still get ya....

Compare the price of marijuana per ounce to tobacco per ounce. One is at least 50 times higher for basically the same thing, except the tobacco is heavily taxed or it would be much cheaper. If gold becomes illegal in the U.S., the price could just as easily explode. They cant tax the world yet, but that's Obama's new idea.

I saw a guy selling glass jars outside of a big college football game. These were nothing special, but they were going for $200 a pop. What you had to do was look at what was inside the glass jar- a ticket to the day's game...free with your purchase. "I'm not scalping!!!!"

We're all smart enough to find ways around, to barter for what we want or need...they can keep on trying to pin us down.

Where is Bono ,Bob Geldoff and sundry now? The Greek people would be as well off under a mad dictator like Mugabee because this is where the country, Greese is heading . An Irish teacher who is married and living in Greece for the past 30 years spoke the other day , explaining how children are fainting in school with hunger and that mothers are voluntarily placing their children in care as they are unable to provide for them , Who will have the strengt to call an end to this farse?

I saw Peter Gabriel perform last year, and was extremely saddened to hear how his own good intentions only serve these same elite forces of evil. Although, unlike the two "Sirs" you referenced, I don't think Pete has a clue. To him there is no connection between the poverty industry and poverty itself, or the political movement industry to anything negative that is politically driven. Nope, they are all just taken as a given "good," never mind they are one of the main reasons these problems exist in perpetuity.

I just know I'll never waste my money again to listen to him preach idiocy to aging Boomers and their stupid kids.

So the maples formed a union And demanded equal rights 'The oaks are just too greedy We will make them give us light' Now there's no more oak oppression For they passed a noble law And the trees are all kept equal By hatchet, axe and saw

"An Irish teacher who is married and living in Greece for the past 30 years spoke the other day, explaining how children are fainting in school with hunger and that mothers are voluntarily placing their children in care as they are unable to provide for them"

:-(

Does above hardship affects a big portion of Greek society or just some individual case? How severe it is? Just cant imagine that Greek people do not have enough food to feed themselves...

Good point perhaps the intent is to find tons of misplaced phantom gold in the Greek central bank enough to pay their debt off with. This phantom gold will be held in a phantom ECU account where no one will be allowed to assay except to take some pics of the shiney tungsten bars... done deal! next ?

What about Gordon Brown's and Gaddafi's and Mubarak's and Gerald Celente's gold? I don't think it's a new concept. The washington agreement made them give up 500 ton a year. According to wiki, they will dump 400 million ounces over the next couple years.

That would just transitorily affect the supply of bankster puppets, creating a momentary vacuum from which the absolute worst will be promoted. Because by then the facade of integrity is broken, and a position formerly held by a mild-mannered bankster can be filled by a thug who can project a facade of power and control. (Kinda like European leaders in the 1930's)

As long as CB fiat trash exists, there is no real remedy to this problem. Only by removing this drain on all productive enterprises will it ever be resolved (again).

And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.

Here, we will make you beg for more money. We will create said money out of thin air, loan it to you at interest so you can use it to pay us back on previous loans we created out of thin air. In addition to begging, you will have to cut your salaries and benefit packages that we willingly helped fund with money from thin air as long as there were profits to be made. This helped make you believe in a free lunch and made you lazy. Now that you are reduced you to a non-producing debt-addicted society, we need your gold too.

This is the greatest scam in history. My parents told me to be an engineer. The true winners were the financial engineers.

at some point humanity needs to overcome its fear and stand up. It should be clear by now where all this heading... its not just going to be the other guy, and hiding out in some hidden place with a pile of gold is not going to be enough.

Unfortunately Trav7777's right about this. But he should have pointed out who gets killed. If/When humanity finally stands up and says no, then the system ends. There is no requirement for violence just a significant enough percent of the population saying NO. Unfortunately either a new system run by the same people as now (me the new boss same as the old boss) is imposed, or they kill everyone and breed so more sheeple.

Which is why Hitler is one of the most famous humanitarians of all time. Right, Trav?

Personal hero of yours, I would assume?

My vote for "humanitarian of the year" goes to Jeffrey Dahmer. He ate so many gays that he probably stopped a dozen hurricanes and saved thousands of lives. He's probably one of the most unjustly villified individuals in world history - just like Hitler is to you.

Only the rothschild zionist jews were allowed to emigrate out of hitler's germany. The non-zionists jews were thoroughly inventoried and dealt with - this was one of the specific uses of IBM's "inventory management system" if one might call it that way...

Even assuming the Central Banksters 'only' have 25% of the world's gold, that still puts them in a damned powerful position, if they are up against 75% scattered amongst private individuals spread all over the world. They may well fight amongst themselves, but they have centuries of experience of calling the shots, making up the rules of the games they play, etc.

I'm interested to see just how much this will look like Another's Freegold concept. Identical, perhaps?

I've always found the theory of Freegold to be very interesting, as it is promoted as a coherent gold standard, yet relies upon the incoherence of the Euro to pull it off.

But as the ever silly FOFOA states, "Westerners just don't understand." Of course, he never finishes that statement which is "...how a gold standard can function side-by-side with a continually depreciating currency." In which case, he's right! I don't understand how incoherence plus coherence equals coherence.

Nope the closest he comes is to bring up the old line of "the Euro can never hyper-inflate because it is MTM in gold."

"Next up is Syria and Iran." I do not think so. These two countries have certain Russia support.

May be the Russian government and Putin are in Bankers pockets. But there are Russian people. Historically, Russian common people "are getting their axes.” Translation, they are going on a rampage and slaughter their rulers in most brutal ways.

Syria is sticky because Russia has half its fleet there. Behind the scenes as we speak the whole arab league is trying to figure out a deal that gets Russia to acquiesce. Will be difficult politically for them if the ahab world seems to be inviting military action by the West.

don't think so. he has been at war with zionism, inside and outside Russia for years. they want him gone and are cranking up the "democracy" infiltrators, er activists inside russia as we type... he is also trying to take away control of assets that the zionists hoarded in Russia after the breakup of the USSR.

His love, is his country - his disdain, are the oligarchy that wish to bring their tasteless presidium [currently being mimicked by the US ie. the dirty dozen debt panel?] back into power controlled by a few Stalinist

America should stay the fuck out of Russian affairs, and take care of home first

How is it that Russia and Chinese got the atomic bomb so quickly? Answer: Some very wise, and smart humanitarian scientist's, realizing that such great power in one countries hands will most definitely bring about total corruption. They knew instinctively, that having others counterbalancing the threat of one super power total annihilation of dissenter's would never come to being,... safeguarding the world

Ps. Personally, I've always admired Putin for being a fair and intelligent leader - always striving to make life better for his beloved country

Ps2. People must get rid of this misunderstanding and read some modern literature on current world leaders

Everything you're talking about is no more real than "professional" wrestling. They're all puppets projecting an image in order to create a facade of opposition, lest one emerge naturally outside of TPTB's sphere of influence. What the true beliefs of these puppets are, we'll NEVER have a clue about.

The only thing resembling opposition is in-fighting between factions trying to steer things in their direction (increasing personal power).

If Putin were truly powerful opposition, he would've been given the LaMumba treatment years ago (if not successfully marginalized first). Instead, many in the world see him as the last bulwark against "organized Jewry."

The lawsuit seeking the return of the Bonds Confiscated at the Italian border is over the very same "fake" bonds reported at your link.

Amazing that someone would have the bravado and guts to not only identify themselves but also file a lawsuit in the Southern District Court of New York asking for the return of "fake"bonds. Kind of like asking the government to return your 100 kilos of coke they found.

A lot of effort and risk for something that is allegedly "fake".

Read the Complaint that was filed for the case. You will get the full backstory of the origin of these bonds.

Case Name: KEENAN v. BOSCO ET AL.

Case Number: 2011-cv-8500

Filed in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York on 11/23/11.

This is how things work in all countries. Whatever used to belong to their people, today it belongs to the multinational companies of the Club. People were betrayed by their given leaderships and they lost everything. Capitals and markets were handed to the Club bosses. If you understand what is going on in Greece, you can understand what is going on in Britain, France, and Germany etc..

It's almost like there's some kind of pattern there. Nevertheless, I only take my advice on gold from Nouriel Roubini (and sometimes Dennis Gartman or John Nadler or Warren Buffet). And they all assure me that it's in a bubble, so I'll just stick with my negative-yield treasuries, thank you very much.

I'm just curious as to what kind of shits you think they're capable of giving? There's not a single positive thing the the common person can do, as all of their methods of exerting influence have been undermined. Let's see... they riot and destroy everything, nope, not helpful, or they can protest to puppets... wait, they did that already, so nope, not helpful.

The only winning move in the bankster game is not to play it. Even then, it still doesn't prevent the UN from starting a war and stealing your gold if you live in one of the few countries without a Western style CB. Just ask all of those "liberated" Libyans how much better off they are now.

uncertain as to object of anger, nonetheless feel constrained to assure you No One here accepts what is happening to the greek people with other than empathy and dread

. . . for the same thing in fact happening in this country.

US atlantic Greece, were it for any here to swim that hellespont and again an extended arm, a hand, to help free you, from just such harpies as have seized us . . . each to each, perhaps, Erinyes, somehow to reach both deepdown and across cleansing both shores

Where have all good men gone And where are all the gods? Where’s the street-wise Hercules To fight the rising odds?

Isn’t there a white knight upon a fiery steed? Late at night I toss and turn and dream of what I need

I need a hero I’m holding out for a hero ‘til the end of the night He’s gotta be strong And he’s gotta be fast And he’s gotta be fresh from the fight I need a hero I’m holding out for a hero ‘til the morning light He’s gotta be sure And it’s gotta be soon And he’s gotta be larger than life

Racing on the thunder and rising with the heat It’s gonna take a superman to sweep me off my feet

I need a hero I’m holding out for a hero ‘til the end of the night He’s gotta be strong And he’s gotta be fast And he’s gotta be fresh from the fight I need a hero I’m holding out for a hero ‘til the morning light He’s gotta be sure And it’s gotta be soon And he’s gotta be larger than life

Up Where the mountains meet the heavens above Out where the lightning splits the sea I would swear that there’s someone somewhere Watching me Through the wind and the chill and the rain And the storm and the flood I can feel his approach Like a fire in my blood

I need a hero I’m holding out for a hero ‘til the end of the night He’s gotta be strong And he’s gotta be fast And he’s gotta be fresh from the fight I need a hero I’m holding out for a hero ‘til the morning light He’s gotta be sure And it’s gotta be soon And he’s gotta be larger than life ...

The ECB has taken over Greece and is levying taxes on the citizens. The citizens more than likely won't rebel against the ECB but, instead, will fight amongst themselves while the bankers sit back and snicker.

Well if you think about it, it is a trojan horse against the EURO. If Greece is allowed to pay in Gold at a future EUR price, it is like granting a free GOLDS/EUR call to Greece, it is a bit like the lenders are shorting 12.9 billion EUROS against Gold. Now what if contagion goes to Portugal Italy and Spain and Golds continues to rally? This clause becomes expedient and popular, so Governments of Portugal Italy might either adopt a similar clause of prefer to default outright or go back to national currencies. That would BE a lot of EURO shorting against Gold, that would be further demonitization of EURO (aside from outright printing). Short term it sounds smart, especially if Greece would not share the same currency as the EU but it looks like the EU is willing to pump Gold against EUR, who would have thought?