The Jews, the true authority and interpreters of Eden, saw mankind’s gain of knowledge as an elevation in their struggle to understand God. Israel [as understood by Hebrews, = he strives with God]. Strive can be read as to mean to work either with or against. Jews equated God more with a source of knowledge than a source of command that must be obeyed. This is shown by archetypal Moses ignoring God’s law of divorce.

Being a Gnostic Christian, my view goes to following the Jewish view for two basic reasons. They have more authority over the O. T. than Christians and secondly, they give our creation, beginning and God a happy ending for our passage through Eden. True evil had yet to manifest itself to that point in time.

Christians on the other hand, with their view of Eden as man’s fall, cannot see a perfect heaven without evil. God fails on this issue and admits it by casting Satan out.

Christians cannot see a perfect Eden on earth without evil. God fails on this issue and admits it by casting Adam and Eve out.

In Noah’s day, God repented from his sins. He missed the mark and admits it by destroying most of mankind and animal kind with an immoral genocide. God fails on this issue as well.

Did the Jews win in their striving against God to a point where they could judge him?
I think so thanks to Moses and the divorce laws.

We cannot today know why Christianity reversed some of the Jewish thinking when embracing the O. T. and it’s God and going from man’s elevation to man’s fall.

Should Christians consider following that good Jewish example and do as other cultures have done as shown by Joseph Campbell and seek a messiah the way most Jews do?

If not, then Christians will have to learn to live in a world where their God can be accurately described like this.

“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
― Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion

Dawkins and most Jews call the bible fiction. Jews can thus get around this accurate description of God by just admitting the truth. It is all myth and metaphor. Literalist and fundamental Christians cannot and I think that over time this rather ugly God will kill Christianity.

At one time the Christian God of the gaps may have had a role to play for us but man has moved on. Christians should perhaps do the same and seek their true God.

The Godhead is the Glans Penis as the Penis is the core symbol of manhood and God is the Jewish man’s internal world projected onto a metaphor of what a Jew’s unconscious aspires in the face of an unknown, scary world. The Jew’s unconscious manifests itself in the covenant between “God” (Penis) and them in the ritual of circumcision in which the Penis tells the soul of the Jew to cut its foreskin. The Penis over rules the Jew because the Jew is without power or more precisely the will to exercise the power that emanates from man’s darkest recesses, and most of that urge is to procreate indiscriminately.

The Godhead is the Glans Penis as the Penis is the core symbol of manhood and God is the Jewish man’s internal world projected onto a metaphor of what a Jew’s unconscious aspires in the face of an unknown, scary world. The Jew’s unconscious manifests itself in the covenant between “God” (Penis) and them in the ritual of circumcision in which the Penis tells the soul of the Jew to cut its foreskin. The Penis over rules the Jew because the Jew is without power or more precisely the will to exercise the power that emanates from man’s darkest recesses, and most of that urge is to procreate indiscriminately.

I like. Especially where it advises to be a force for change. That means changing minds and I work hard at it.

Not so much here as that need is not as great as at some of the other places I frequent.
I think I have mentioned that all here should be doing the same in terms of reducing the harm that religions do.