If I was the owner of Caraluzzi's or a Dave that was still working there I would now tend to push away all phone calls asking about Dave. Op story still stands as Okay.

Quoting: Rinty

I can't speak for anyone else but my call lasted all of 10 secs. The young lady clearly had no idea who I could be speaking of when I asked if "dave" was working.

This wasn't some interrogation. It didn't need to be. People's first reactions are usually the most genuine.

Frankly I don't think it was proper, or an accident, that the OP mentioned the name...but, since the thread had gotten so long without ayone doing any follow-up I thought it might be wise to stop it if it weren't true.

If I was the owner of Caraluzzi's or a Dave that was still working there I would now tend to push away all phone calls asking about Dave. Op story still stands as Okay.

Quoting: Rinty

I can't speak for anyone else but my call lasted all of 10 secs. The young lady clearly had no idea who I could be speaking of when I asked if "dave" was working.

This wasn't some interrogation. It didn't need to be. People's first reactions are usually the most genuine.

Frankly I don't think it was proper, or an accident, that the OP mentioned the name...but, since the thread had gotten so long without ayone doing any follow-up I thought it might be wise to stop it if it weren't true.

Then the bodies were released and removed from the scene, however long that takes.

Quoting: Holden 32744103

On the night of the 14th Vance addressed media and told them the bodies would remain where they were (on the floor at the school) until Sunday. I found that pretty surprising...anomalous...unnecessary...disrespectful, etc...

As it happens, tho...later that night they somehow managed to i.d. all the victims and transport them out during cover of darkness.

I know I'm making it sound spooky and dramatic...but I found that to be a rather large about-face in such a short period of time.

Much as I Found Vance's comments about interviewing every single witness and using counselors to help interview the children...only to do a complete 180 and say that none of the children that escaped to Rosen's would be interviewed.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32919940

They had to juggle teams, timing, story flow and when they could ahead with the pieces(so to speak) of this one. I sure very few "locals" not signed on ever got within viewing distance of the interior crime scene areas. The few pictures that looked like local L.E. seemed as if there were always armed Feds or DHS escorting them.

I was suggesting they got a bunch of calls. There would not be any need to interrogate. I don't know. I am only suggesting that under the circumstances it does not necessarily disqualify the witness.

Quoting: Rinty

And you may very well be right. And I will stand corrected. I don't deny that is a possibility.

Quoting: swansong 32919940

Thank you. I came back to the thread for two reasons. One was that I felt that you might have felt that I was attacking you personally. I should have stated my point another way. Perhaps like this: "If I made the same call as you I would still not throw out the witness....". Also I do tend to give the two witnesses loads of space as I felt them under undo pressure and attack. And I do hope for more witnesses.I think next point, a video, should be in another box.

Above is a video showing that the medical examiner had pressed for laws not to disclose information on any autopsy of a murdered child. This was almost two years ago.The video goes on to show Carver’s medical examiners office had signs of massive corruption.

To me this strongly suggests that this was at least two years in the planning stage.

Above is a video showing that the medical examiner had pressed for laws not to disclose information on any autopsy of a murdered child. This was almost two years ago.The video goes on to show Carver’s medical examiners office had signs of massive corruption.

To me this strongly suggests that this was at least two years in the planning stage.

Quoting: Rinty

No doubt these things take time...nothing a few million tax dollars and media-blankets can't cover

Above is a video showing that the medical examiner had pressed for laws not to disclose information on any autopsy of a murdered child. This was almost two years ago.The video goes on to show Carver’s medical examiners office had signs of massive corruption.

To me this strongly suggests that this was at least two years in the planning stage.

Quoting: Rinty

Whoever made that video did a horrible job, all the way around. It could have been trimmed to about 3 minutes, and all I wanted to do was reach into the guy's mouth and pull the words out. That was a painful experience. The 5 minutes of completely garbled audio was a nice touch. "Select...delete" Problem solved.

Carver pressed for a law to be passed that was redundant, knowing and stating that it was redundant. He threatened to quit over it if it was not passed. He rescinded the threat after it was passed...even though it was an unnecessary law??

That guy is as batshit crazy as his press conference shows him to be. I want to see his IQ test scores and his grades; my guess is that he rode the shortest of buses to school, and his mommy must have slept with the right people to land him a cushy bureaucratic position like that, because he's an incompetent nitwit that I would not entrust with the complex act of microwaving the breakfast food at McDonald's. And I'm not kidding.

As for the purging of his staff...well, I can only assume those were people he hired himself. They had to work FOR HIM. Those poor bastards. Does that make the office especially corrupt? That's a bit of a stretch.

I have been following your threads here for a few days now.And the one that got me very intersted was the little noah boy. If you look up the west coast uncle's name (here is the info from his office website - his job description is :trial and appellate lawyer specializing in white-collar criminal defense, general criminal defense, and civil litigation.)you will see a lady who looks very much like the lady who spoke of her adorable little boy - taken too soon. except younger, and actually sad. If her twins were full term they would have been concieved about a week before this mugshot. Most twins are not carried to 40 weeks though - so maybe whoever got her out of jail helped jump start her new life?

hey crazy witch, i'd still like to know, are you familiar with any sort of child sacrifice for the purpose of creating a talisman?

Quoting: The Gallows

"Crazy" is the idea of child sacrifice and no, I have no knowledge of such things. Ditto satanism. Sorry to disapoint you. I didn't post on this thread to defend my spirituality or my shop - just my friend. Who is a real person, has two real children (one now deceased) and who owns a 4 acre farm - not 900 acres as someone posted earlier. She didn't write a "hokey" book on 9/11, she wrote a children's book about one of her horses and her foal. I never said I lived in Sandy Hook, but rather two towns over.

I will agree with an earlier post that people in and around the area ARE being especially kind to one another - randomly paying for one another's coffee, for example. Christmas here was almost a non-event in terms of shopping and materialism, which was hard on many local shops (and malls) but no one I know complained because everyone's focus was on spending time together as a family and doing things together as opposed to buying things. And if it's possible for any good to have come out of this awful thing, it would be that.

Kindness ... a few of you might consider trying it on for size. Blessed Be.

hey crazy witch, i'd still like to know, are you familiar with any sort of child sacrifice for the purpose of creating a talisman?

Quoting: The Gallows

"Crazy" is the idea of child sacrifice and no, I have no knowledge of such things. Ditto satanism. Sorry to disapoint you. I didn't post on this thread to defend my spirituality or my shop - just my friend. Who is a real person, has two real children (one now deceased) and who owns a 4 acre farm - not 900 acres as someone posted earlier. She didn't write a "hokey" book on 9/11, she wrote a children's book about one of her horses and her foal. I never said I lived in Sandy Hook, but rather two towns over.

I will agree with an earlier post that people in and around the area ARE being especially kind to one another - randomly paying for one another's coffee, for example. Christmas here was almost a non-event in terms of shopping and materialism, which was hard on many local shops (and malls) but no one I know complained because everyone's focus was on spending time together as a family and doing things together as opposed to buying things. And if it's possible for any good to have come out of this awful thing, it would be that.

Kindness ... a few of you might consider trying it on for size. Blessed Be.

hey crazy witch, i'd still like to know, are you familiar with any sort of child sacrifice for the purpose of creating a talisman?

Quoting: The Gallows

"Crazy" is the idea of child sacrifice and no, I have no knowledge of such things. Ditto satanism. Sorry to disapoint you. I didn't post on this thread to defend my spirituality or my shop - just my friend. Who is a real person, has two real children (one now deceased) and who owns a 4 acre farm - not 900 acres as someone posted earlier. She didn't write a "hokey" book on 9/11, she wrote a children's book about one of her horses and her foal. I never said I lived in Sandy Hook, but rather two towns over.

I will agree with an earlier post that people in and around the area ARE being especially kind to one another - randomly paying for one another's coffee, for example. Christmas here was almost a non-event in terms of shopping and materialism, which was hard on many local shops (and malls) but no one I know complained because everyone's focus was on spending time together as a family and doing things together as opposed to buying things. And if it's possible for any good to have come out of this awful thing, it would be that.

Kindness ... a few of you might consider trying it on for size. Blessed Be.

Quoting: CTChick

Christmas was a NON-EVENT??.....Uh Creepy.....Just like the school didnt have any Christmas Deco's in the windows

Christmas was a NON-EVENT??.....Uh Creepy.....Just like the school didnt have any Christmas Deco's in the windows

A non-event in terms of materialism ... every school in the area had snowflakes in the windows in groups of 21 (for the 20 children plus the shooter, who many people felt compassion for rather than hate). More of that "kindness" stuff. Instead of going out shopping for gifts and spending money on "things" families were spending time together at home or volunteering for local charities. A good thing.

Listen, I don't know of any person in this area who isn't aware that something very strange went on that day. It was badly reported, holes in the stories, and way too much secrecy and/or concidence. It is the topic of much conversation, where ever you go people here are talking about it. Please remember that this part of Connecticut (Fairfield County) was deeply affected by the events of 9/11, in that many people who worked in the Twin Towers lived here. So just like the children who died in Sandy Hook, many of us did know people who died that day. And now, years later - our innocence is gone; we don't trust our government, we don't believe the media. But to discount the fact that people died by saying they didn't, or blame the victims because someone was "fixed up" for an interview is just mean-spirited ... and wrong, in my opinion.

Look, less than a year ago the people of Greece woke up one morning to find their Country's government had voted in an "Austerity Package" and that their savings, pensions, etc. were GONE. Further, they were informed they would work 6 weeks out of each year for free, and those who had a job would pay a stipend in order to keep those jobs. When the men went to protest, they went armed with bats and rocks - and the military police hosed them with water guns. Why? Because the people of Greece were disarmed years ago. Does anyone doubt this event (Sandy Hook) is being utilized by the US Government as a means to install fear and thereby remove guns from the American people? I think THAT'S the "conspiracy" here ... a financial failure is pending, and the last thing any government wants is a well-armed public or citizen's militia when that happens.

Having just read and re-read your account, i'm sorry but it just reads like someone who is trying too hard to write a story.

Somebody who is trying to relay a factual account does not 'write' the way this is written whereas somebody writing a work of fiction does, by padding it out with all the unnecessary level of detail you have included.

I have been following your threads here for a few days now.And the one that got me very intersted was the little noah boy. If you look up the west coast uncle's name (here is the info from his office website - his job description is :trial and appellate lawyer specializing in white-collar criminal defense, general criminal defense, and civil litigation.)you will see a lady who looks very much like the lady who spoke of her adorable little boy - taken too soon. except younger, and actually sad. If her twins were full term they would have been concieved about a week before this mugshot. Most twins are not carried to 40 weeks though - so maybe whoever got her out of jail helped jump start her new life?

side note - if your kid was ran over by a Ford F-150 truck would you really care what kind of vehicle it was?

I also thought it odd that the petition the family filed was from the 'maternal family' as if the paternal family is not concerned? [link to s3.documentcloud.org]

If this has already been brought up please let me know. I looked around and couldn't find it.can I post a photo like this? [link to www.flickr.com]

Quoting: tildeali

Not odd if you consider that you don't see or hear to much from eLIEzer (Lenny) Pozner. Who the heck is Alexis Haller? [link to www.intelius.com]

Something tells me that little "Noah" is really Veronique's, if indeed that is her real name, grandson, not son and not a twin.I'm sure he has already gone back to Washington State.No need to forward some casket.

Christmas was a NON-EVENT??.....Uh Creepy.....Just like the school didnt have any Christmas Deco's in the windows

A non-event in terms of materialism ... every school in the area had snowflakes in the windows in groups of 21 (for the 20 children plus the shooter, who many people felt compassion for rather than hate). More of that "kindness" stuff. Instead of going out shopping for gifts and spending money on "things" families were spending time together at home or volunteering for local charities. A good thing.

Listen, I don't know of any person in this area who isn't aware that something very strange went on that day. It was badly reported, holes in the stories, and way too much secrecy and/or concidence. It is the topic of much conversation, where ever you go people here are talking about it. Please remember that this part of Connecticut (Fairfield County) was deeply affected by the events of 9/11, in that many people who worked in the Twin Towers lived here. So just like the children who died in Sandy Hook, many of us did know people who died that day. And now, years later - our innocence is gone; we don't trust our government, we don't believe the media. But to discount the fact that people died by saying they didn't, or blame the victims because someone was "fixed up" for an interview is just mean-spirited ... and wrong, in my opinion.

Look, less than a year ago the people of Greece woke up one morning to find their Country's government had voted in an "Austerity Package" and that their savings, pensions, etc. were GONE. Further, they were informed they would work 6 weeks out of each year for free, and those who had a job would pay a stipend in order to keep those jobs. When the men went to protest, they went armed with bats and rocks - and the military police hosed them with water guns. Why? Because the people of Greece were disarmed years ago. Does anyone doubt this event (Sandy Hook) is being utilized by the US Government as a means to install fear and thereby remove guns from the American people? I think THAT'S the "conspiracy" here ... a financial failure is pending, and the last thing any government wants is a well-armed public or citizen's militia when that happens.

Quoting: CTChick

Could you go into some detail about Scarlett Lewis and her son?

Any others that you can personally vouch for? Because not all 20 children appear to have been actual persons.Or not related as advertised.

Any others that you can personally vouch for? Because not all 20 children appear to have been actual persons.Or not related as advertised.

No, I cannot. She is a real person, her sons are real people and so am I. I put enough personal information on this site to "prove" I am who I am. I am already getting phone calls from GLP'ers ... no problem, but certainly I posted more than enough to prove I exist. And so does she. I have posted on other threads in the past with no problems, to chime in or express an opinion ... this is ridiculous.

Any others that you can personally vouch for? Because not all 20 children appear to have been actual persons.Or not related as advertised.

No, I cannot. She is a real person, her sons are real people and so am I. I put enough personal information on this site to "prove" I am who I am. I am already getting phone calls from GLP'ers ... no problem, but certainly I posted more than enough to prove I exist. And so does she. I have posted on other threads in the past with no problems, to chime in or express an opinion ... this is ridiculous.

Quoting: CTChick

I know that you are a real person.I am sure she is a real person.How to verify her son.You keep speaking of him in the present tense.

You have not proved you are aquainted with her or know her well.And you did not even attempt to say you know anybody elsewell or not who allegedly lost a child.

Thank you. I came back to the thread for two reasons. One was that I felt that you might have felt that I was attacking you personally. I should have stated my point another way. Perhaps like this: "If I made the same call as you I would still not throw out the witness....". Also I do tend to give the two witnesses loads of space as I felt them under undo pressure and attack. And I do hope for more witnesses.I think next point, a video, should be in another box.

Quoting: Rinty

I wasn't sure after the first post...but by number 2 I knew where you were coming from.

The truth is...the person I spoke with could have been new...didn't know "dave". Maybe dave works days and this person only works nights.

There are lots of possiblities...but I can't deny the fact that between the OP and me...I'm the only one that posted something that couldn't easily be found online.

If the OP is actually from Newtown I hope they come back and offer some proof. I have many questions...and a couple of requests :)

Whoever made that video did a horrible job, all the way around. It could have been trimmed to about 3 minutes, and all I wanted to do was reach into the guy's mouth and pull the words out. That was a painful experience. The 5 minutes of completely garbled audio was a nice touch. "Select...delete" Problem solved.

Carver pressed for a law to be passed that was redundant, knowing and stating that it was redundant. He threatened to quit over it if it was not passed. He rescinded the threat after it was passed...even though it was an unnecessary law??

That guy is as batshit crazy as his press conference shows him to be. I want to see his IQ test scores and his grades; my guess is that he rode the shortest of buses to school, and his mommy must have slept with the right people to land him a cushy bureaucratic position like that, because he's an incompetent nitwit that I would not entrust with the complex act of microwaving the breakfast food at McDonald's. And I'm not kidding.

As for the purging of his staff...well, I can only assume those were people he hired himself. They had to work FOR HIM. Those poor bastards. Does that make the office especially corrupt? That's a bit of a stretch.

Laura/CTChick is an incredibly kind, humble and very brave soul and I, personally, am blessed to have made her acquaintance and I just wanted to say that it is absolutely sickening some of the personal attacks people in this thread have made towards her, insinuated or implied. There is WHITE magick and BLACK magick and while I don't deny that there is some underlying markings of ritualistic and occultist doings at Sandy Hook to even jokingly imply that, just because of her Wiccan/Pagan beliefs, Laura must be playing for the wrong team or working with the 'bad guys' is disgusting. Seriously, lets cut out the 'witch-hunt' bs. This isn't Salem, MA.

Many Blessings of LOVE and Most Radiant and Illimitable Light to Laura, her family and her beautiful business. It's rare to meet such genuine people these days. We'd be much better off with more people like her in this world.

This is the problem... the lack of verification that you live in Newton means can not take this post as definite evidence.

Assuming that you do live in Newton CT and your Wife works at Sandy Hook... this something that you need to come forward with. People need to know this stuff.

You can't keep this from the public, when the TPTB are using this to try to pass gun legislation and start a civil war! People need to know that the government used this opportunity for their benefit.

Please OP... if you are being genuine... come forward with this information with evidence. You need to do it as fast as possible as your life you could be in danger. If people know you came forward, they can not kill you without drawing huge suspicion.

Quoting: Dr. Manhattan

I didn't say my wife worked at Sandy Hook. I don't even have a wife and I just broke up with my girlfriend.

Yes, I should post evidence. I may just do that at some point. But right now might not be a great time or it could be a perfect time. I'm just keeping my safety in mind.

Quoting: Johnson4truth

Then I drive west to Danbury. I don't know why but I just did. I was thinking to myself that that was what I get for playing hooky from work. I had the radio on but not loud enough to hear it. I turn it up thinking maybe I could catch what was going on. The local station mentioned nothing. At about 10:00 they break in from Sammy Hagar's "I Can't Drive 55". The guy said that he was hearing reports of an incident at Sandy Hook Elem and that surrounding schools was on lock down however, "I called my wife because she works at Newtown Middle School and she said they weren't on lock down and haven't heard anything about an incident. So it appears information has been mixed up. We need to get our stuff together before they tell me to report".

This is the problem... the lack of verification that you live in Newton means can not take this post as definite evidence.

Assuming that you do live in Newton CT and your Wife works at Sandy Hook... this something that you need to come forward with. People need to know this stuff.

You can't keep this from the public, when the TPTB are using this to try to pass gun legislation and start a civil war! People need to know that the government used this opportunity for their benefit.

Please OP... if you are being genuine... come forward with this information with evidence. You need to do it as fast as possible as your life you could be in danger. If people know you came forward, they can not kill you without drawing huge suspicion.

Quoting: Dr. Manhattan

I didn't say my wife worked at Sandy Hook. I don't even have a wife and I just broke up with my girlfriend.

Yes, I should post evidence. I may just do that at some point. But right now might not be a great time or it could be a perfect time. I'm just keeping my safety in mind.

Quoting: Johnson4truth

Then I drive west to Danbury. I don't know why but I just did. I was thinking to myself that that was what I get for playing hooky from work. I had the radio on but not loud enough to hear it. I turn it up thinking maybe I could catch what was going on. The local station mentioned nothing. At about 10:00 they break in from Sammy Hagar's "I Can't Drive 55". The guy said that he was hearing reports of an incident at Sandy Hook Elem and that surrounding schools was on lock down however, "I called my wife because she works at Newtown Middle School and she said they weren't on lock down and haven't heard anything about an incident. So it appears information has been mixed up. We need to get our stuff together before they tell me to report".I was so believing till this.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18237036

That has already been addressed many pages back. The OP was quoting the dj, not talking about his own wife.