weapons bans coming soon?

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What's going on these days?
I am all for guns, but do we really need high-capacity pistols?
Or high capacity assault rifles?
It seems that the only thing they are good at is not defending yourself from a bunch of bad guys, but killing a bunch of strangers.
Is it that hard to reload your trusty 1911?
And now this deal in ft. hood. Was it a u.s. citizen? how did he obtain these guns? was he an islamic terrorist?
if we allow high-capacity magazines, shouldn't we allow government sponsored health care?
if the swiss can do it, why can't we?

Well, one day when the taxman comes knocking at your door to rob you of your hard earned wages you will understand why we need high-capacity pistols and high-capacity assault rifles. It's coming soon with the Obama socialism and the health care. And if anyone got close enough to you for you to be able to tell that they were good or bad they probably would have already killed you anyway so you may as well kill them first while they're still a stranger to you. It only makes sense.

"we might be the only first-rate country in the world that allows assault weapons and high-capacity pistols-but at least we have a government that doesn't supply us a shred of health care."

This doesn't make any sense. People pay (usually a lot) for their guns, the government doesn't give them away.

I pay 99c for each real HK 20rd mag for my HK91. Show me a low cap pistol mag that cheap.

Also, generally, weapons designed for higher capacity are not the most accurate. The uneducated seriously underestimate the difficulty in accurate marksmanship.

I haven't checked, but I'd be willing to bet flamethrowers fall under the NFA AOW provision.

Sorry, no ban is going to happen. People today can walk into a gun shop and buy AK47s, AR15s, and even .50BMG rifles. Heck, I'm a regular guy and I have an HK91, which is a huge high power battle rifle. Good luck enforcing a ban on people who have stuff like that. As the great Spartans once said when told to lay down their weapons, "come and get them."

If a few others around would have had their weapon, it would not have mattered that he had high-capacity mags, Besides, if he is military, he had access to al of that stuff, and a civilian ban would not have done a thing.

It's human motivation one should look to and not an inanimate object if you seriously wish to get to the bottom of the whys and wherefores.

They say madmen become psychiatrists to figure themselves out. Well sometimes they don't and instead they become the inmates in charge of the asylum, and certainly this appears to be the case with Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan.

Yet the genesis of his insanity becoming reality seems to be Barack Hussein Obama's failure to keep his promise to pull US troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan. And in the back of Hasan's mind there is his holy Koran which tells true believers to kill the infidel (which is most of US). Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan is apparently a well schooled true believer.

Sadly there were signs aplenty of his approaching crackup. Words he spoke in anger and disgust and comments made on social internet sites. When will America wake up to the very real threat from the enemy within its own military ranks? How many more such incidents will it take?

"There are currently no federal laws governing or restricting the ownership of flame-throwing devices. Some states have laws restricting possession of flamethrowers, with violations only considered to be misdemeanors, but 40 states have absolutely no laws whatsoever concerning flamethrowers."

Tom, I've commented to you before about the mini-30. There is no high cap mag for the mini-30 that will work. NONE!! Stop wasting your time trying to find one. Sell the rifle and buy a mini-14 instead. 30 round clips available that actually work.

Marion,
a thompson? I bet you couldn't hit the side of a barn if you were inside the barn with that thing.
I figured you would be the type for a collection of chauchats.
avez-vous l'amusement avec moi encore?

compmd:
"Also, generally, weapons designed for higher capacity are not the most accurate. The uneducated seriously underestimate the difficulty in accurate marksmanship."

yeah generally, but one of the most accurate pistols I have is a dwm 1908 (1929) and it has a ''snail" 32-rd 9mm drum magazine.
it is the most accurate pistol I own-except for target .22 high standard stuff.

No problem Tom. I hated to get rid of mine too, but a gun that will not feed with a 30 round clip is not any better than a hammer for defense. My buddy that bought it also got about 12 different mags w/ it from all different manufacturers. He was sure that he could file or manipulate at least one to work in the gun. Nope.

faking it marion?
only a novice would ever refer to a magazine as a clip.

I was using your words.

sounds like it is you who is faking it.
there are more Mp38's in the united stated than anywhere else in the world. hop on you tube and you can watch an old lady firing one in a wheel chair.
yeah, they are small-compared to a MG-34.
yeah, they are big-compared to a p-38
yeah, i have fired one.
No, I don't own one.
yeah, the muzzle climbs.
no, not as much as a ppsh.
yeah, I have fired one of those also.
No, I don't own one.

top j sez:
If a few others around would have had their weapon, it would not have mattered that he had high-capacity mags, Besides, if he is military, he had access to al of that stuff, and a civilian ban would not have done a thing.

this makes sense to me.
and this is a serious question:
If the military is allowed to have high-capacity magazines, shouldn't civlians?

Tom,
Back i the early '80s a friend and I got a fantastic deal on 1000 20 round mags for AR style rifles. He kept 100, I kept (xxx), and we sold the rest. I sold off all 50 and 100 round mags I had, all Ruger mini's and haven't looked back. Had too many problems with 50's and 100's, and the Rugers were never my favorite. High capacity mags that fail can take the fun out of an afternoon of plinking, and I have enough 20's and 30's to melt down all (x) of my AR's without reloading a mag.

Just went out this morning to recheck the zero on the deer rifle. 308 Win. shot a .315 inch 5 shot, 100 yard group straight into the wind. Took out the Stag Arms Lefty and ran a couple of mags through it too. Spotted Bambi and Faline on the way home....

and what's wrong with the public owning some f-14s?
it would be great if the city commission closed down the T and bought some f-14's. sporadic flyovers above downtown-not to mention scaring off all the hustlers from Missouri. And we could protect douglas county from Obama.

"Japan would never invade the United States. We would find a rifle behind every blade of grass."
-- Isoroku Yamamoto, Fleet Admiral and Commander-in-Chief of the Imperial Japanese Navy during World War II on why Japan would never attempt a conventional invasion of the U.S.

japan did invade the united states-and they won.
Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Lexus, Infinity, Sony, Mitsubishi (yep, same company that made the Zero fighter plane seen over pearl harbor).
anybody know how well escalades are selling in Japan?

you guys crack me up. I love how you think the government is shakin in it's boots over you guys, or that somehow you're keeping us all free or something. Wow. Unless you have the modern day equivalent of the French Navy backing you up, you're going to be about as successful as Daniel Shays, David Koresh and the Confederate States of America with your little armed insurrection. (Who was it who put down Shays and his Revolutionary War vet buddies' little rebellion? Oh yeah - revered founding father George Washington.)

If you could just let go of your fevered little super-patriot fantasies, you might notice that Democrats tend to favor gun control because the party's base is mostly urban, where senseless gun violence is a serious problem. Sorry, nobody is scheming to turn the country communist, held at bay only because they haven't found a way to "git yer guns."

You really want to change the government? Exercise your First Amendment rights. That's what really brings about change in this country. Or better yet, vote. Sometimes your guy wins, sometimes the other one does. But regardless, whoever wins gets to do things like overhaul healthcare, raise taxes, and yes, change gun laws. The winner's exercising of this power is LEGITIMATE, unless overturned in the courts on constitutional grounds (see - you go to court when you think the government has overstepped it's authority, not start shooting at them).

Somehow, without a single gun to back it up, the Supreme Court's rulings on these matters are respected and enforced, even when the executive branch is on the losing end. (Abraham Lincoln excepted.) This is how a CIVIL society works. Maybe someday you yahoos will choose to grow up and join it.

"When you find that you are wrong, you will come back on here and let everyone know that you are wrong, right?"

Wrong about what? I made no statement of fact regarding the NFA AOW provision.

"yeah generally, but one of the most accurate pistols I have is a dwm 1908 (1929) and it has a ''snail” 32-rd 9mm drum magazine."

Nice, puddle! There was much more creativity and better craftsmanship in older firearms I think. Perhaps I should have been more specific and said that the accuracy vs. capacity argument held true generally more for modern firearms.

You're right! Enforcement is impossible. While we're at it, enforcement of drug laws are impossible too - off the books! Oh yeah, and traffic laws as well - I'm constantly being passed by speeders who are not being pulled over. Get rid of those too! Any others while we're at it?

this is easy.
the second amendment was written by men, who had testosterone flowing heavily at the time-despite their deployment of powdered wigs and fancy ruffled shirts.
like all good stuff, this amendment was inked by men only.

there you go.

second amendment.
written by men (not french)
and broiling with testosterone.
as it should be.

"Yep, no statement of fact, per se but you did express willingness to make a bet that you were right."

Willingness indeed, yet still, none was made. So now people have to apologize to you for things they never did? Who dropped a turd in your cheerios this morning? Take a pill, dude. Then go outside and enjoy the day.

My God, Roe! Is that a gun in your pocket or are you really happy to see me?
I was never like this before I started commenting on here.
I blame this change on Roe, Ronda, Mel, and Multi.
I am going to stay with my trusty bow and arrows. Low tech, but stealthy, very, very stealthy.