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Topic Review (Newest First)

12-06-2012 09:57 AM

69 widetrack

The regulator could be the culprit...it's one of those situations where, the internet being a wonderful source of information but not the do all end all, being there and being able to hear what is happening could have solved a situation much sooner.

Thanks..Im about 98%'sure the regulator was resticting the flow as soon as I took it off you could hear the diffrence&thats saying alotbseeings I have tinitus.

12-05-2012 11:35 PM

John long

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutthroatkid

Hey fellas just sent this in a email so just copied Yae!So I went back down to the shop I just couldnt get this op off my mind so I cleaned all my guns&tryd diff settings on all..nada still op..for some reason my regulator@the gun hasnt been letting me bump up the air past 60 but some of the hf guns call up to 70 so I took the regulator off with 100@tank&pulled the trigger instantly heard a diffrent hiss...sounded stronger&I had no panels but had some un prepd doors for my drag project shot..smooth everything went smooth besides being dirty!I gess said regulator was broke.I didnt think they could fail,it looked gumd up with paint.

That sounds encouraging. I have heard of others throwing the regulator away that came on the HF gun. I have my fingers crossed for you.

John L

12-05-2012 11:28 PM

cutthroatkid

Hey fellas just sent this in a email so just copied Yae!So I went back down to the shop I just couldnt get this op off my mind so I cleaned all my guns&tryd diff settings on all..nada still op..for some reason my regulator@the gun hasnt been letting me bump up the air past 60 but some of the hf guns call up to 70 so I took the regulator off with 100@tank&pulled the trigger instantly heard a diffrent hiss...sounded stronger&I had no panels but had some un prepd doors for my drag project shot..smooth everything went smooth besides being dirty!I gess said regulator was broke.I didnt think they could fail,it looked gumd up with paint.

12-05-2012 07:31 PM

cutthroatkid

Yes indeed it does..def wet

12-05-2012 07:20 PM

69 widetrack

To much air pressure can indirectly cause orange peel or the look of orange peel. When I say the look of orange peel it's because with more pressure you get more over spray, this over spray, because of the increased pressure is curing as it lands on the panel your painting giving you little bumps that you cover with a wet coat of clear...If you've ever felt dried over spray, would you paint over top, no, it's not smooth enough.

Hope this explains your question

12-05-2012 07:07 PM

cutthroatkid

Hey there 69 pm sent..well Im gonna try to reduce the clear a bit more to get out the last of the orange peel so we shall see how that works.Also can too much air cause orange peel?Ive tryd to go from wide open fluid till all the way in..I know the more you go in the smaller the droplets get but it seems like it dosnt wanna spray if it gets to small

12-05-2012 06:52 PM

69 widetrack

Well with 4 paint jobs on the truck I don't think I'd worry about hitting metal. I know your frustrated and I don't blame you one bit, but, there's always a bright side...You found out that you where not the problem...You found out that you don't like single stage...(especially thick single stage)...You got a new paint gun (that's always a good day when you get a new paint gun)...and you found out that you can lay clear down with just the right amount of orange peel to match the 2013 GM's just coming off the assembly line. All in all, not a bad day...and you found a paint booth for $800...it just keeps getting better and better.

Good luck my friend and I sincerely wish you all the luck in the world.

Ray

12-05-2012 06:26 PM

cutthroatkid

Will do 69 I have a gallon of finish line clear the activator seems to of dissapeard but I had some from anothet bc&it seems to of hardend it up..hope I dont regreat this
also out of primer so gonna try for a hail mary while sanding&if I hit metal I have just enough to hit a few spots..but Im pretty good@sanding.

12-05-2012 06:22 PM

cutthroatkid

You ever seen the color of money when vincent is kicking gradys but @the masters@9 ball&he says to grady what he said to him earlier...its like a nightmare isnt it?He then replies yeah *****..well I feel like grady anyways..well I shot the clear over the jams of a parts car that is black&there was minor peel..you couldnt really tell it was there so it was almost like factory peel Id say&I can live with that.To just be done.I also found a guy with a paint botth for 800.00&a satajet blue for a little extra so Im done with single stage Im swearing it off because everytime I use it it ends up a mess.Now I have to sand it down for a 4th time Im not happy..I also tryd reducing the ss till it was like water..same problem.

12-05-2012 06:19 PM

69 widetrack

Reduce whatever product your spraying if your getting orange peel. If the single stage is giving you orange peel, reduce it by 10 to 15%...If the clear is giving you orange peel reduce it by about 10%...If your still getting orange peel, try another 5% for either clear or single stage...reduce it until your not getting orange peel anymore.

12-05-2012 06:13 PM

cutthroatkid

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutthroatkid

Ok so Im gonna end up with orange peel then when I shoot the clear..hmm could it be that Im under or over reducing?The single stage?It dosnt call for reducer but its thick...The tech sheet dosnt say nothing about reducing excepct for that its optional..so Ive beedln reducing@1:4 What should I try?

I mentoined reducing here

12-05-2012 05:04 PM

John long

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69 widetrack

If your tech sheet is for Single Stage, try reducing it...I think I mentioned in a previous post to reduce it between 10 and 15%.

I think all the advice 69widetrack has given you is right on. It definitely sounds like the viscosity of your paint is way to thick. You do not mention whether or not you have sufficiently reduced this paint. If it is not properly reduced you can use the best equipment money can buy and it is still not going to flow out. You are going to end up with the orange peel or dry overspray.

John L

12-05-2012 04:24 PM

69 widetrack

Yes, try the clear with your new gun...damn I hope it works for you.

Ray

12-05-2012 04:19 PM

cutthroatkid

I know your trying I appreciate it

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