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ATI Unveils the RV250 and R300!

It's ATI day in the world of hardware reviews. Today, NDA's expired on ATI's Radeon 9000 and Radeon 9700 video cards. It appears to be a Ti4600 killer, for the most part. I'll drop you a little quote from Anandtech's review.

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I hate the blow everything up as if nvidia isn't going to release something in another month anyway..

Personally, I would have loved to see the Parhelia perform a little better. Might have swayed my decision to use a ti4600.Me Webpage | If you always think like an expert, you'll always be a beginner. | "A handful of knowledgeable people is more effective than an army of fools" -Writing Secure Code, 2nd Ed.

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#16886 Posted on: 07/19/2002 02:55 AM
Hrm, where is my credit card.
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#16887 Posted on: 07/19/2002 04:36 AM

Originally posted by Shadow Knight Hrm, where is my credit card.

Probably hiding in the basement, shaking with fear at the mere mention of a new doohickey for that computer...
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#16889 Posted on: 07/19/2002 07:01 AM
I think I'm going to be like most of us and stick to my R250 (or whatever everyone else has) until it can no longer handle my computing needs and wants. Should be another 12 months or so for me, maybe more or less for others. If we then change, then we'll get whatever best suits us. If I had to get a new card right now though, it'd be a Wildcat VP.Once again we've saved civilization as we know it.
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#16891 Posted on: 07/19/2002 11:00 AM
I'm still looking for a reason to upgrade my Matrox G450. SOF2 was nearly that reason, but while waiting for the Parhelia (and then seeing the final price) I got bored with SOF2. I suspect Doom III will be the turning point for this little black duck.

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#16892 Posted on: 07/19/2002 03:44 PM
The R300 looks like it has the goods.

My GF2MX is still going strong and will most likely remain that way.

I had a GF3 Ti500 (retailer needed it back in a hurry so I only had it for a week!) and a GF4 Ti4600 which was returned because it soulnded like a vacuum cleaner.

I was looking forward to the Parhelia but it seems to under perform and now that the Nvidia part is just around the corner I think I will wait for a few more months.BOXEN: I-Will DH800|2.4 Xeons|1024MB PC3200 TwinXLL|73GB 15K.3|Radeon 9800Pro|

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#16893 Posted on: 07/19/2002 04:53 PM
the spec looks good and (unlike matrox) the numbers make r300 looks like a geforce5/6 killer... the question is, i already blown money on a radeon 8500 (for dual monitor functions on main rig) and a ti4600 (gaming rig), do i still want to blow another $400 on a new card??spikegifted.net
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#16894 Posted on: 07/19/2002 05:38 PM
Why not an agp pro version to handel the extra power instead of an only option of a power conection. two models so the people with out pro slots could still use them... like 9700.(the one they reviewed) and say... 9700+ the pro version.?

but then again if their drivers suck for this it would be pointles anyway. I have liked ati cards for ther quality of display but the drivers are anoying most of the time. (rage 128) been told that the radeon is better but i keep hearing it still has issures.

oh well. just my $0.02E-Mail, HeatWareIt is OK to let your mind go blank, but please turn off the sound.

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#16895 Posted on: 07/23/2002 05:36 AM

Originally posted by JoeBleed Why not an agp pro version to handel the extra power instead of an only option of a power conection. two models so the people with out pro slots could still use them... like 9700.(the one they reviewed) and say... 9700+ the pro version.?

Because most motherboards out there doesn't have a AGP PRO slot. That means that they would have to stock two different models, using different PCB. And what would they gain? Just about nothing! The potential market would not grow, just the costs for stocking two versions of the card.

But don't give up yet. Maybe the FireGL version will be a AGP PRO card...
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#16896 Posted on: 07/23/2002 05:45 AM

Originally posted by B.Slisk But don't give up yet. Maybe the FireGL version will be a AGP PRO card...

I've got $20 on the FireGL version being an AGP Pro card, or at least being available as such, as well as the Mac version. I know I'm gonna win the bet with my friend too.Once again we've saved civilization as we know it.
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I guess I get my two cases worth of $ out of this one.Once again we've saved civilization as we know it.
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#16899 Posted on: 07/25/2002 03:14 AM
Has anyone on the net got there hads on one of these cuse I want to see what it can do # wise
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#16900 Posted on: 07/30/2002 02:16 AM
Ok the number look great for the 9700 R300 but what's up with the 9000 Pro? It performs less than the 8500LE, is it going to be marketed below the 8500LE?

They call it the MX killer, well the 8500LE and 8500 were both MX killers and priced about the same currently. Most people shop by price and $199-$150 is the target area of many, the 4200 rules this area why didn't ATI shoot for a card in this range to knock the 4200 of the top of the sub $200 cards?

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#16901 Posted on: 07/30/2002 02:31 AM
jives: The 9000 Pro does DX9, if I'm not mistaken, and for most people is faster than the 8500 (by a slim margain), although the 8800 does blow it out of the water.Once again we've saved civilization as we know it.
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#16902 Posted on: 07/30/2002 07:50 PM
Opps should have said I was going by the Ut2k3 numbers. Because it is the only reason I would be buy a new video card (if it ever gets released).

Not sure about the rest but I'm tired of buying video cards based on future projections, there are "features" that suppose to make the GF3 even better once software designers implemented it. DX9 is a safer bet then some of the other technologies but still by the time it is out and widely used the card will be cheaper than it is today. I