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what do you guys think?

'04 frame... nicely built-up. a buddy of mine is interested and i am going to go check it out with him (he is just getting into riding) to check for obvious issues... but what does the ellsworth crew think of this steed....

Because if it breaks you have no warranty. I had an Ellsworth and had no issues but many others have had problems. If you don't mind not having a warranty then there's no problem. I think the 04's were petty good in the seat tube area.

so, do you think it is more questionable to buy a used ellsworth than say, an intense, turner or foes?

not trying to be an ass just curious as to why someone would be "so" cautious to buy a used ellsworth. warranty is not an issue or else he wouldnt buy a used bike in the first place. just seems like a smokin deal for an entry level guy to get in on a bike that went for close to 5k new a few years back.

No problems. Just take the time to THOROUGHLY inspect the frame, and ask lots of questions. Having purchased lots of used components and bikes on craigs, I think most people won't knowingly sell you a damaged bike. If you don't feel comfortable with the seller, walk away. There will always be deals to be found.

so, do you think it is more questionable to buy a used ellsworth than say, an intense, turner or foes?

yes.
the reports of cracks seem to be much more widespread.
when i was considering a moment, I asked at the LBS and the guy told me the story about how great Ells was getting the frame replaced and shipped to the resort for him...but it did fail, that was the first problem.
That being said, I cracked my Ventana, so nothing is immune.