According to NFL Network's Michael Lombardi, the Browns are "so integrated into the West Coast system that their predictability is becoming legendary around the league."Lombardi puts Browns film on every week, calls a former NFL coach and relays the personnel group, formation, ball location and motion. The former coach has been correct "95 percent" of the time in guessing the Browns' play. Lombardi notes that while the Saints, Packers and Eagles all use West Coast principles, the Browns are the only team exclusively using the offense which hasn't seen a Super Bowl winner since the 2002 Bucs. Nov. 4 - 12:55 pm et Source: NFL.com

3. Writing about the Browns offense leads me to a game I play every week at NFL Films. I sit in my office in Mt Laurel, N.J., put the Browns offense on my screen and call a friend who was a coach in the league, but is now in between successes. I tell my friend the personnel group, the formation, where the ball is located on the field and what hash mark and describe the motion -- if there is any -- and ask him to tell me the exact play that will be run. He is correct about 95 percent of the time. No lie. The Browns are so integrated into the West Coast system that their predictability is becoming legendary around the league.

"And three of the better guys in franchise history, Daugherty, Z and now Kyrie could get hurt in a rubber room full of cotton balls." - Leadpipe

In the pre-season Lombardi was talking about NFL coaching hires, specifically, how he couldn't understand the logic behind some of them. He said about the Rams, "their offensive system was so basic - West coast 101....and that guy got a head coaching gig - go figure."

Schurmer is to Walrus what Kokinis was to Mangini.

Two puppets that weren't even on the radar of any other NFL organization for those positions.

Anybody here ever hear of OJT? As in on-the-job training? It works, if the trainee has a good mentor.

Everybody's talking like Shurmur is a know-nothing dumbass with an I.Q. of about 60. You don't become a coach -- any coach -- in the NFL by being a know-nothing dumbass with an I.Q. of about 60.

The key is Holmgren, who arguably knows how to coach as well as anyone in the league today. He's got to be in Shurmur's ear six days a week, 52 weeks a year. He's got to pass his knowledge on to his hand-selected head coach.

Whether Shurmur becomes a bona fide head coach in the next year or two is entirely up to Holmgren. We can only hope, because Holmgren isn't going to fire him after just one year. No way.

jerryroche wrote:Anybody here ever hear of OJT? As in on-the-job training? It works, if the trainee has a good mentor.

Everybody's talking like Shurmur is a know-nothing dumbass with an I.Q. of about 60. You don't become a coach -- any coach -- in the NFL by being a know-nothing dumbass with an I.Q. of about 60.

The key is Holmgren, who arguably knows how to coach as well as anyone in the league today. He's got to be in Shurmur's ear six days a week, 52 weeks a year. He's got to pass his knowledge on to his hand-selected head coach.

Whether Shurmur becomes a bona fide head coach in the next year or two is entirely up to Holmgren. We can only hope, because Holmgren isn't going to fire him after just one year. No way.

I am usually a guy who advocates patience (see previous posts) but this guy just doesn't smell right.

Unless he's a dupe...and Walrus takes over in two years with a re-built roster. This is my hope...like a Jew led into a camp with "Arbeit macht frei" on the entrance.

The positive fan in me says they are using this whole season as a extended training camp , and they are beating the fundimentals of the WCO into them. But the negitive fan in me says we are fucked and it's only a matter of time before SHUR is having a Davis esq nervous breakdown and cry's on the side line ,longing for the days when he coached in a city that didn't care about football.

"I don't think they're building chemical weapons in Berea. But they might be. I can't say for sure."Chuck Klosterman

Govbarney wrote:The positive fan in me says they are using this whole season as a extended training camp , and they are beating the fundimentals of the WCO into them. But the negitive fan in me says we are fucked and it's only a matter of time before SHUR is having a Davis esq nervous breakdown and cry's on the side line ,longing for the days when he coached in a city that didn't care about football.

First comes the rampant weight gain. Then the nervous breakdowns. Then he loses the locker room and self implodes.

Lets just hope it doesn't take three years.

"It's like dating a woman who hates you so much she will never break up with you, even if you burn down the house every single autumn." ~ Chuck Klosterman on Browns fans relationship with the Browns

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.