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I'm erring on the caution here since this is a brand new core, essentially what Bulldozer was. Sure, Keller is back but he's not a genius that can change things in an instant. It'll probably be the second gen Zen that would tell how good this core is.

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It's good to see that interest in AMD hasn't perished in my absence. My only concern here is whether or not AM4 is backwards compatible with AM3+, so that I can chuck one of these bad boys in my system. I never did upgrade to Bulldozer/Piledriver, but I need to upgrade soon at some point; This little old carbureted dual core is well behind in puff.

But I'm not terribly interested in performance these days. My interest in games and technology has waned. These days I just want something reasonably fast, cheap, quiet, and efficient. Hopefully a mid range Zen will be just the ticket for me.

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Pictures are out of AMD's new socket. It's expected to start popping up in retailers in October. So maybe November, or December for us. (hopefully)

The latest APU's to be running off the old Excavator cores is going to slot into these... with he flagship Summit Ridge to debut at CES in January 2017. Then we will know what AMD has given us exactly.

AMD's new CPU performs quite well apparently, but I think they are still a generation from catching Intel

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It's good to see that interest in AMD hasn't perished in my absence. My only concern here is whether or not AM4 is backwards compatible with AM3+, so that I can chuck one of these bad boys in my system. I never did upgrade to Bulldozer/Piledriver, but I need to upgrade soon at some point; This little old carbureted dual core is well behind in puff.

But I'm not terribly interested in performance these days. My interest in games and technology has waned. These days I just want something reasonably fast, cheap, quiet, and efficient. Hopefully a mid range Zen will be just the ticket for me.

Id bet NOT compatible.

I'd also bet $60 motherboards like usual :P so no real drama there lol.

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The microarchitecture is supposedly a ground-up redesign, and uses Socket AM4 which is upcoming, supports DDR4 and supposedly even previous coolers are incompatible but some will be able to use upgrade kits.

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The microarchitecture is supposedly a ground-up redesign, and uses Socket AM4 which is upcoming, supports DDR4 and supposedly even previous coolers are incompatible but some will be able to use upgrade kits.