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Re: What about the Russians?

A GOP-led Senate panel concluded on Tuesday that the US intelligence community’s 18-month-old conclusions about the 2016 presidential election — that Moscow meddled to hurt Hillary Clinton and help Donald Trump— were “well supported.”

The Senate Intelligence Committee released a seven-page summary that corroborates much of what the CIA, NSA, and FBI concluded back in January 2017, and praises their report as “a sound intelligence product” — despite President Donald Trump’s continued insistence that Russia didn’t interfere to help him and his criticism of the intelligence assessment as biased against him.

“The Committee has spent the last 16 months reviewing the sources, tradecraft and analytic work underpinning the Intelligence Community Assessment and sees no reason to dispute the conclusions,” Intelligence Committee Chair Richard Burr (R-NC) said in a statement.

Re: What about the Russians?

So you're saying that your candidate sucked so hard a backwards country was able to supposedly "steal" the election from her? Nope sorry. It was the fact that your party decided they knew what was best for their voters and buried Sanders who had ACTUAL support from the communists I've known for a long time your party now represents. Lol it's ok though, you can now get behind that bartender from Queens and REALLY make a difference.

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

Funny how other posters can't see the forest for the trees. Not funny how that intent to divide us and discredit the government is ignored here, even while seeing that the forest is plainly visible as a result.

Great plan. Funny how the GOP is on board with it while they are the winners.

Steve Schmidt, a longtime Republican strategist and John McCain’s 2008 campaign manager, announced this week that he is leaving the GOP. He warned that the Republican Party has become a “danger to our democracy and values” and called for a Democratic wave in the 2018 midterm elections.

Schmidt explained his decision to leave the party in a lengthy Twitter thread, calling it “corrupt, indecent and immoral” and filled with “feckless cowards,” with a few exceptions for governors like Charlie Baker of Massachusetts, Larry Hogan of Maryland, and John Kasich of Ohio. Schmidt cited the Trump administration’s child separations as one of the main factors that led to his decision to leave the party. He said the policy was “connected to the worst abuses of humanity in our history,” drawing parallels between the zero-tolerance immigration policy and historical examples of families being separated during slavery and the government’s forced displacement of Native American communities.

Schmidt did not hold back in his tweets, declaring that the “complicit leaders” in the Republican Party—including Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, Sen. Mitch McConnell, and House Speaker Paul Ryan—“will carry this shame through history. … They have disgraced their country and brought dishonor to the Party of Lincoln.”

Schmidt is not alone in his frustration and distress over recent shifts in the GOP. Since Trump’s political ascendance, several other conservative figures have publicly announced that they are leaving the Republican Party because of the political direction it has taken.

In June 2016, the conservative columnist George Will announced that he was changing his political affiliation from Republican to “unaffiliated” in response to Trump’s candidacy. “This is not my party,” Will was quoted as saying, and he urged Republicans to nominate someone else for the party’s presidential nomination. Trump had previously attacked Will and called him a “major loser” over a Washington Post column he had written that was highly critical of Trump.

In July 2017, Joe Scarborough, the host of MSNBC’s Morning Joe and a former Republican congressman from Florida, announced that he was leaving the party to become an independent. Like Will, Scarborough was upset that Republicans had been unwilling to stand up to Trump’s antics. Scarborough said he believed the party leaders had “betrayed their core values” by uncritically supporting Trump. “You have to ask yourself, what exactly is the Republican Party willing to do?” Scarborough said in an interview with Stephen Colbert. “How far are they willing to go? How much of this country and our values are they willing to sell out?”

By Susan Bevan and Susan Cullman
Ms. Bevan and Ms. Cullman are leaders of Republican Majority for Choice.
Our organization, the Republican Majority for Choice, the organization founded by Ms. Crisp in 1988, is shutting its doors. The big tent has collapsed for good.

As Republicans, we spent four decades working inside the party to produce effective policies helping women and families. Despite growing malice from an anti-choice faction, we kept our disagreements within the family. We redoubled our efforts to find common ground, rather than simply walk away.

At its peak in the 1990s, our group had an annual budget of as much as $1 million and a political action committee that gave away about $200,000 per year. Close to 20 state chapters provided support to candidates and lobbied state legislatures. The committee supported Republicans who believed freedom from government intervention extended to a person’s bedroom and doctor’s office: senators like Alan Simpson of Wyoming, Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins of Maine; House members like Connie Morella of Maryland, Mike Castle of Delaware, Charlie Dent of Pennsylvania; and governors including William Weld of Massachusetts, Christine Todd Whitman of New Jersey and George Pataki of New York. In Congress and the courts we pushed for teen pregnancy prevention, stem cell research, emergency contraception and clinic access.

But these successes were dismissed by party leaders who became increasingly beholden to the social extremists who were winning primaries in our broken, gerrymandered electoral system.

Our argument was simple: True fiscal conservatives should embrace family planning because it reduces poverty, increases educational attainment and work force competitiveness, improves health and provides people the opportunity to make educated moral choices. We incorrectly assumed that our fellow fiscal conservatives would join us in applauding the reduction in the number of unintended pregnancies, which saved taxpayers billions of dollars spent on the welfare state.

Instead, the policies and programs that led to these outcomes came under constant fire. The far right was more interested in conflating abortion and birth control for political purposes. It is fiscally disingenuous to deny birth control coverage and then bemoan unintended pregnancies and abortion.

Lifelong Republicans were booed out of state and local committee meetings for just raising abortion rights and family planning ideas. The nastiness escalated to personal attacks on men and women who had dedicated countless hours and dollars to the party.

We can no longer support a Republican Party that is shutting down low-cost health care clinics offering cancer screenings, basic health services and much-needed family planning services. It has become a party that wants to punish pregnant women by limiting their economic choices, that wants to reduce access to sex education programs that prevent unintended pregnancy and disease.

It is no wonder that women are voting with their feet. According to a recent analysis by the Pew Research Center, 56 percent of women identify as or lean toward Democrats. The gap is even wider among college graduates and minority voters. The party should take note that 70 percent of millennial women have either registered as Democrats or lean Democratic. We will no longer be available to help the Republicans appeal to these changing demographic realities.

For years we have debated whether to close our doors. Our founding principle had been that proponents of abortion rights should be comfortable in both major parties. But we have to face reality: There probably will not be a single pro-choice Republican member of the House after the fall election, and only two in the Senate — Ms. Collins and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska.

It has become taboo within the party to even say “pro-choice.” Most of our supporters gave up on the party as it moved to the extremes not just on abortion but also on other social and fiscal issues.

This Republican Party is no family of ours. And so we say goodbye.

George Carlin
Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Thomas Jefferson to John Page Fairfeilds Dec: 25. 1762.
... But the old-fellows say we must read to gain knowledge; and gain knowledge to make us happy and be admired. Mere jargon! Is there any such thing as happiness in this world? No: And as for admiration I am sure the man who powders most, parfumes most, embroiders most, and talks most nonsense, is most admired.

Re: What about the Russians?

Originally Posted by otoc

Happy fourth to you bb.

Funny how other posters can't see the forest for the trees. Not funny how that intent to divide us and discredit the government is ignored here, even while seeing that the forest is plainly visible as a result.

Great plan. Funny how the GOP is on board with it while they are the winners.

Nice C&P that means nothing. The republican establishment is on the way out. There’s a new brand of republicans they call the Deplorables they actually are standing firm on America first and they don’t give a ratsass about political correctness. They believe Americans should come first in all aspects... Maybe, just maybe it’s the socialist democrats like you that need to change the game plan. You’re brand of politics is a outdated loser. Like the dinosaur republicans your party is near the end of the road. Take your Slate and NY Slimes C&P and put them where the sun doesn’t shine... Idiot ...

Re: What about the Russians?

Originally Posted by Stinky

Happy fourth to you bb.

Funny how other posters can't see the forest for the trees. Not funny how that intent to divide us and discredit the government is ignored here, even while seeing that the forest is plainly visible as a result.

Great plan. Funny how the GOP is on board with it while they are the winners.

Nice C&P that means nothing. The republican establishment is on the way out. There’s a new brand of republicans they call the Deplorables they actually are standing firm on America first and they don’t give a ratsass about political correctness. They believe Americans should come first in all aspects... Maybe, just maybe it’s the socialist democrats like you that need to change the game plan. You’re brand of politics is a outdated loser. Like the dinosaur republicans your party is near the end of the road. Take your Slate and NY Slimes C&P and put them where the sun doesn’t shine... Idiot ...

Re: What about the Russians?

Nice try at getting us to read Slate and the NYTimes... and to care that a RINO wants a blue shirt. I s'pose ya need to deflect from all the folks bailing the Democrat boat of identities.

Well at least patriot4us did not go for round 2 of why he left the party...

"The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."

Re: What about the Russians?

Otoc's hilarious today. Puts up an article about some RINO's upset that the Republican Party wasn't liberal enough for them as a reason the country is being divided? I've never even heard of that group, nor would I care about them if I had. He conveniently ignores the decades of damage the left has done to the country since Kennedy caught a bullet in a convertible. If you want to find answers on why we're "suddenly" so divided you really need to look in your own house otoc, but it's easier to invent a boogeyman like the Russians or Trump or the "Deplorables" etc. than it is to admit the glaring truth.

He's still trying to be part of a party that no longer needs or wants him because of his skin color and gender. He feels like if he could just be enough of a "Goodwhite" they'll continue to listen to what he has to say. News flash otoc. They won't. What happened in Queens should be a wake up call that it is in fact your party that's fractured. On one side you have the old white hippy virtue signaling boomers and on the other you have their replacements. Yes, your "pets" are now rising up against you and kicking you out of your own party. Blame the Russians for it if it makes you feel any better, but in the end it boils down to the one thing liberals always wanted to talk about. Race. Well the good news is you now have diversity. The bad news is diversity doesn't include you.

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.