MDMA vs Alcohol vs Cocaine - Which is worse when training?

This could get quite messy... I'm asking strictly from a knowledge point of view as I'm curious. I've never done cocaine but have done MDMA a few times. I take my training extremely seriously and don't drink much at all (haven't touched a drop for over a month which is hard as a student).

Anyway, does anyone know the real implications of these drugs individually on training? The health risks aren't important (we all know that steroids aren't exactly healthy, yet they can improve your training). If I took MDMA once a month, and drank a sensible amount of water am I doing more damage to my training than if I were to get drunk? I personally don't get hungover really, but alcohol messes up my eating whereas MDMA doesn't really change my eating habits. How about if I did a line of cocaine, would it cause some sort of reaction which would be detrimental to muscle growth in some way? Does anyone know the science behind this stuff?

my roomate does the occasional line and it doesnt seem to affect his training, but I wouldnt be sure of what that will do to you over the long run. im just bumping you because I dont know the scientific implications but the fact that you are into these things raises some red flags to me anyways

IME none of them will really effect your training if only done infrequently ie once or twice a month.I'd personally avoid the MDMA / ecstacy as it gave me depression when I was younger. I wouln't recommend doing any of them but lots of people who train do so it would be silly to pretend otherwise.

No biggie like, there are a lot worse things for you than using steroids, I mean I probably shouldn't have been smoking crack or getting into bar fights at your age TBH - drab4

As above mate, all three will hurt your training goals, but one day out of the month isn't going to make any appreciable difference even if you don't eat anything all day

If you start using any of those drugs regularly then you will see a significant negative impact on your training, I speak from experience on that and I've never known anyone who was immune to the negative effects....

I've heard about having monster sessions on MDMA, used as a pre workout stim, so it could, in a weird way, aid training. It certainly does not aid general health. I'm going to go with alcohol on this one, makes you feel ill for up to a couple of days, which you don't really get with the other two.

"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true."

once in a blue moon with any of these things isnt going to make much difference, and i doubt any of them have an absolute direct effect on protein synthesis but watch out that "every now and again" doesnt turn into every other weekend and so on...

the mental sides from mdma and charlie can get evil and thats speaking from experience

alcohol is there werst imo, losts of water lass from dehydration, other two may afftect your appetite the next day, but so will drink if your hungova or ill. if i had to pick one id pick mdma to take. but not on aas that would be bad

post edited by stone14 - 2008/12/23 16:59:06

i believe with a healthy active lifestyle and some good knowledge and aas/peps use etc that you can live a longer stronger better life. main interests: physique conditioning, bbj, muay thai.

Alcohol and cocaine are acutely dangerous mixed with exertion for the period after you have taken them, this will become more of a potential problem as you get older.

MDMA whilst not associated with the same types of problems has it's own set. The problem always is that for much of the time it is 'safe', but you don't know there's a problem until it presents. I'm not talking about impurities etc more the MDMA itself (and physical health).

Whilst it is importna to live life to the fullest I'm not going to say one is the smart choice that said a glass of whine or A beer isn;t going to mess very much up is it?

im an mdma user, and i use it once a month and thats it. It has NO impacts negatively on my training, before i go out i take two high strength multi vits and some 5-htp, when i get in i take some more 5-htp then in the morn its a weight gainer plus multi vits and ill continue taking 5-htp throughout the week.

If your going to do any drug or substance at least have the knowledge on how to leesen or eradicate the negative sides that they can produce.

BUT if you do these regulary then mental probs would be top of the list, and training will go out the window. Also ask yourself am i going to be mr olympia?? probably not so why deny yourself a bit of naughtiness once in a while?

Dont take life too seriously but maintain a balnce in everything and you will be ok

MDMA is best, it will raise your heartbeat making you burn more kcals, you will dance your tits off all night whiich is cardio and you will loose your apetite so you wont gain any weight. Although if you do some coke you might get in a wrestle with the police after the club and thats good cardio.

Drink enough and you will throw it all back up which neutralises its negative effects. Particuarly handy if you've eaten a kebab on the way home.