And you're certainly not saying much for your morals with that little frathouse mouth of yours.

And I didn't say you don't have a girlfriend...just that you leave her disappointed. That, and that you're a snivelling turd of an internet tough guy whose words say a lot more about himself than those he'd criticize.

I know, I didn't mean it to sound like that. I was still on a previous rant, it seems.

allanhowlsI think it was pointed out earlier that a "porn career" is often eight hours worth of footage that is edited and inserted (ha!) into numerous videos. It is quite possible that she did one shoot (ha! again) that has been spliced into any number of cheapo vids ever since.

Good point. I had missed that. That explains the number of movies (about which she may have no clue) and the time (also about which she may be clueless.)

And you're certainly not saying much for your morals with that little frathouse mouth of yours.

And I didn't say you don't have a girlfriend...just that you leave her disappointed. That, and that you're a snivelling turd of an internet tough guy whose words say a lot more about himself than those he'd criticize.

The snivelling IT geek wants to call me an "internet tough guy".

Well Junior, while you froth at the mouth typing your tough comments, may I suggest that if you do not teach morals to your daughters about how this whore is a not what you want them to be, they may just turn out that way. It's called parenting.

2006-05-09 02:27:03 PM amquelbettaminI think it would be hard now that the toothpaste is out of the tube for her students to take her seriously. We didn't even respect the most upstanding, well-educated teachers when I was in high school. If a teacher was in a porn, and the kids all knew, they would show her absolutely zero respect. It's nearly impossible to manage a classroom if the students don't respect or fear you. I say let her stay as long as she can take the abuse the kids will dish out. If she can weather that storm, she should be allowed to stay.

first off, i like the saying "now that the toothpaste is out of the tube." that's nice.

and now to the point. in keeping with my stance, i agree with your point that it's hard to manage a class if students don't respect you. i have taught at college level and haven't seen it that much, cause the students just show disrespect by skipping class ( ;0). but my wife is a HS teacher and she tells me it's even hard to manage if they DO show respect.

but. it. just. doesnt. matter.

if the kids are getting out of line for whatever reason, send the snot noses out of class to the principles office. keep em after school. make em write on the boarda brazillian times. "i will not make fun of anybody, even betty buttbanger my teacher."

The point is the degree to which the administration would support her in disciplining the kids. seems like this is what they don't want to put up with-- they're the ones that are reluctant to weather the storm (or even a squall)--cause then the parents will be complaining that "the ol porn hag is punishing my kid", and "what right does she have" blah blah blah.

Twister58201:I suggest that if you do not teach morals to your daughters about how this whore is a not what you want them to be, they may just turn out that way. It's called parenting.

Talk to me when you have kids. Until then, shut the hell up about things whereof you know absolutely nothing.

I teach my kids morals every day. Things like the difference between right and wrong. Things like not judging people unfairly. Things like not looking down on other people or putting yourself above them. Things like respect for yourself and others. This is what makes you a good person, not screaming "whore!" at the top of your lungs.

You don't understand that, though. I doubt you ever will, and I feel badly for you. Now try to learn something instead of frothing at the mouth

I'm sorry, since when does "acted in porno" = "whore?" I think we had that conversation awhile ago, where dictionary definitions were pulled out, but if you can't see the difference between a prostitute and "someone who hit a tough spot in her life and made a few pornos", then you have some serious issues.

Oops, sorry, I guess that means you're completely perfect and have never had to choose morality over survival. You lucky, lucky bastard.

The point is the degree to which the administration would support her in disciplining the kids. seems like this is what they don't want to put up with-- they're the ones that are reluctant to weather the storm (or even a squall)

Great point. I could see some dean/principal losing interest very quickly in disciplining 10 students every time this lady teaches a class.

She would likely also feel like an inadequate teacher if she had to send so many kids to the office. She would likely feel after a while that her constantly throwing kids out of class would reflect poorly on her in the eyes of the administration. It would eventually look like she was unable to do her job.

Good choice teaching college kids instead. There is no way in hell I'd teach high school unless it was a private school which allowed some lee-way for more classical modes of pupil discipline.

Wow....Twister58201's mom sure did a number on him. What's wrong? Aunt get an abortion? You walk in on your parents having anal sex? What's the deal? You could spend the better part of a year on a shrink's couch and they might get close to your major mental malfunction.

Why do I have a feeling that the people who are b-tching and moaning about "oh dear god I don't want a porno star teaching my children" are probably the same ones moaning about people who take advantage of the welfare system and don't want to get their asses to work?

Wow. She legally appeared in some adult movies to get through a tough spot. Since when did the entire freakin' Beatitudes get torn out of the Bible?

Hello Kitty:I'm sorry, since when does "acted in porno" = "whore?" I think we had that conversation awhile ago, where dictionary definitions were pulled out, but if you can't see the difference between a prostitute and "someone who hit a tough spot in her life and made a few pornos", then you have some serious issues.

Well, actually, what is the difference between "someone who hit a tough spot in her life and made a few pornos" and "someone who hit a tough spot in her life and turned a few tricks"?

It is possile to forgive a woman for starring in an Adult movie in her past and still not want her to teach your children.

Thanks for putting that in bold. I wouldn't have understood it otherwise.

Maybe you should ask yourself "why"? And why do you feel as though this affects the way she teaches them? Do these kids take classes on morality? If you feel as though you are a better instructor of morality for your children, then why don't you make an effort to teach them that? Don't think that a teacher is going to cover this for you. I don't know about you, but my parents and priests taught me what I need to know about morals. My teachers had no place in doing this. Why isn't that understood?

I seem to be coming across as judgmental myself for trying to defend this woman. I will not judge a prostitute either, especially for the reason you mentioned (tough spot), and I think a person who has done this should still be allowed to teach. (How many male teachers out there have paid for prostitutes anyway? I can think of a couple who probably have. Would this be under the same scrutiny?)

But I still object to her being called a whore. I hope the assholes here fall in love with a woman who has done something similar, and then learn that this is OK. I have done things I regret, and while a guy may have said - Oh, I'm not going to marry anyone whose had sex with more than __ people, the situation looks a bit different when you fall in love with someone who has done just that. I got lucky.

On the day I was bornThe nurses all gathered roundAnd gazed at the wild wonder they had foundThe head nurse spoke upSaid leave this one aloneShe could tell right awayThat Twister58201 and Allanhowls were bad to the bone.

davemchineThe issue of forgiveness and what it means is a much better topic. Does forgiveness mean forgetting? If you had a child that did something bad you would certainly correct them, forgive them, and move on. But you don't forget the incident.

In the case of the teacher she should certainly be forgiven if she has dedicated herself to christ and asked forgiveness. But nobody will forget it and there will still be consequences for her actions.

This means that you are continuously judging her. The people giving her those "consequences" are wrong and they are assholes, and I don't care if they are highschoolers. Sure, no one will "forget," but to allow this incident to cloud one's perception of SOMEONE AS A HUMAN BEING is wrong. I don't care whether or not this happens - it doesn't make it right. I am happy for you that you perfect, however.

It is possile to forgive a woman for starring in an Adult movie in her past and still not want her to teach your children.

If you didn't want her to teach your children before you found out about her past, then sure it is. But if you're judging her ability to teach based on things in her past that you personally disapprove of, then you haven't "forgiven" anything (whatever it is that you think that means).

Personally, anyone making statements about her character based on a few words in a news article needs to take a good look in the mirror before they start casting stones. This woman may have done something you don't think you'd have done in the same situation, but that doesn't make you better than she is. It just means you have no perspective.

Was in Berlin for a summer. There were streetwalking whores all over the place, even in the quieter suburbanish residential areas. Nobody gave a second thought and people lived quite happily with hookers standing around at the corner, wearing nothing but a fur jacket, bikini panties and high heels.

why is she asking for their forgiveness? she shouldn't need it; it's unfortunate that she lives in such a hotbed of hypocrisy.

it's not like she went and advertised this questionable fact. if they get away with firing her, they should be sure to follow up by firing everyone who has ever watched a porn, since the porn industry wouldn't exist without viewers.

Wow, that took even less time than I thought before the personal attacks on me. I had vastly overestimated your level of maturity. Had a good laugh out of it though.

$10 will get you a STFU.

Twister, there's a little thing about humanity called - now get a pen and piece of paper - empathy. It means to understand how someone else feels. This means that, a human having this emotion, can understand someone else's situation without actually ever being in it. This means that I, as a feeling human being, as well as nearly everyone else in this thread, can get angry at you for calling someone a whore who is clearly not, WITHOUT BEING ONE MYSELF. You got that?