Three things you never mess with; entropy, the weak force, gravity, and Young's Modulus. Four! Four things you never mess with; entropy, the weak force, gravity, Young's Modulus, and battles with Frederick the Great. Five! Five things......I'll start again.

lordargent:Fecal Conservative: Either the Vodak has taken hold or my reading comprehension is off. It wasn't an apartment it was the clubhouse for the apartment complex!

It was the penthouse, which just means it was at the top of the complex (and generally means that it's larger than a regular apartment).

It could very well be intended for 11 people if we're talking about a small apartment building.

Why does a picture caption say this?A firefighter helps a man out of the second story window of the clubhouse at Seminole Grand apartments off Tharpe Street after a portion of the second story of the clubhouse collapsed during a party early Sunday morning. / Michael Schwarz/Special to the DemocratThe penthouse was in the clubhouse? If so, should be sturdier than apts. (Basing this on midwest trailer park relatives and their tornado shelter/clubhouse).

My dad owned an apartment complex when I was younger. It always smelled like poor people rough anonymous gay sex. I was glad that he sold it before he died because I didn't want to inherit it rough anonymous gay sex. FTFY

Fecal Conservative:lordargent: Fecal Conservative: Either the Vodak has taken hold or my reading comprehension is off. It wasn't an apartment it was the clubhouse for the apartment complex!

It was the penthouse, which just means it was at the top of the complex (and generally means that it's larger than a regular apartment).

It could very well be intended for 11 people if we're talking about a small apartment building.

Why does a picture caption say this?A firefighter helps a man out of the second story window of the clubhouse at Seminole Grand apartments off Tharpe Street after a portion of the second story of the clubhouse collapsed during a party early Sunday morning. / Michael Schwarz/Special to the DemocratThe penthouse was in the clubhouse? If so, should be sturdier than apts. (Basing this on midwest trailer park relatives and their tornado shelter/clubhouse).

perhaps they mean the penthouse collapsed down into the clubhouse below. and if the clubhouse was a wide open hall type of area, the penthouse above was supported from side angle beams. also, a structure that is built specifically to safely contain people under tornado conditions is probably built to a higher grade specification than other dwellings.

Fecal Conservative: A firefighter helps a man out of the second story window of the clubhouse at Seminole Grand apartments off Tharpe Street after a portion of the second story of the clubhouse collapsed during a party early Sunday morning. / Michael Schwarz/Special to the Democrat

It's not clear exactly how this was all setup, but in my experience, it's better to defer to the article itself than to a caption.

// seem too many captions that were just BS, does the same person that writes the article write the captions? Or does the article get written and get handed over to some lackey to throw in some images and write the captions.

lordargent:Fecal Conservative: A firefighter helps a man out of the second story window of the clubhouse at Seminole Grand apartments off Tharpe Street after a portion of the second story of the clubhouse collapsed during a party early Sunday morning. / Michael Schwarz/Special to the Democrat

It's not clear exactly how this was all setup, but in my experience, it's better to defer to the article itself than to a caption.

// seem too many captions that were just BS, does the same person that writes the article write the captions? Or does the article get written and get handed over to some lackey to throw in some images and write the captions.

I live in a 3 bedroom apartment at UMD, and have crammed upwards of 75 people into my place before. After doing that once, I will never do that again. It was the shiattiest of shiat shows and some farker in sig ep fingered some slut on my couch.

My ex lived in this building, and the apartments are all four bedroom suites with a huge living room and kitchen in the middle. The residents are all FSU and FAMU students, parties this size are actually are pretty regular occurrence in the complex.

The Black Dahlia:My ex lived in this building, and the apartments are all four bedroom suites with a huge living room and kitchen in the middle. The residents are all FSU and FAMU students, parties this size are actually are pretty regular occurrence in the complex.

Sounds the repeated overloading of the structure finally caught up to the residents.

grimlock1972:The Black Dahlia: My ex lived in this building, and the apartments are all four bedroom suites with a huge living room and kitchen in the middle. The residents are all FSU and FAMU students, parties this size are actually are pretty regular occurrence in the complex.

Sounds the repeated overloading of the structure finally caught up to the residents.

Sounds like the structure (and building code) was poorly designed for the expected usage.

This reminds me of a later season show on ER where there was this huge party in like a 3 story building and everone was on the balconies and they all collapsed. Onto each other. It was a rather grisly ep. Life imitates art sometimes. I really hope everyone turns out okay, but ... This is why I have a ranch style house with a big backyard. I mean- just in case I become one of the cool kidsolder folks that hosts parties, again .

1. Inspection said it met the building code for floor loading2. did not meet the fire code but there was no fire, so what3. floor failed so somebody screwed up at #1

Meh, a lot of these cheap-ass apartments are "rated" for 1000 psi or whatever which means that's the total rating of the floor: the actual weight of the material, plus the weight of whatever is actually above the floor (the walls, ceilings, etc) plus whatever is added after the building is built (carpeting, insulation, wiring) and IF there's any weight left over the tenants might be able to move in some furniture and possibly even walk around their apartments. Oh sure, it's "rated" at 2200 pounds per square foot, but no genuinely rated floor for that poundage should creak like some of the buildings I've lived in have creaked.

Throw in some Florida-style fatties hopping and dancing, and there is no way they'd survive more than one or two parties.

Wait, according to the government, once 1 floor gave away, it would start pancaking downwards in a huge chain reaction the collapsed the building straight down! Obviously 9/11 was faked or the same would have have happened here!