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Konosuke 300mm Sujihiki!

I'm too tired and lazy right now to do a full review so I'll post a few pics and give a quick rundown.F&F very nice,rounded choil and spine.OOTB edge real sharp.Passed the paper and tomato test NP.Knuckle clearance is good for a knife with a profile this slim.Handle is stabilized Magnolia wood,wa,octagonal(I usually prefer darker coloured handles but this was nice for a change),very comfy.OK too much talk,time for some photos..

Yeah, you and chem are right. I deliberately choose an old and neglected one to gain some hands on restoration experience. It's my 1st, so i won't part with it. Unless you want to sweeten the deal...how about the sujihiki and one of the other knives (your choice) for a "highly sought after, limited edition, officially autographed ****elephant Sabatier - in mint condition." Just kidding.

Thus far, i've been working on the blade..- sanded off the rust spots; not too bad and no deep pits- stuck in a vice for a couple of days to straighten it- leveled most of edge to fix the divots / edge gapsI need to put a better edge on it with more even shoulders. The blade is still a little twisted. Plus, I'd like to replace the handle...just need to figure out how to make one.

<Unless you want to sweeten the deal...how about the sujihiki and one of the other knives >

Ha ha ha. Playing tough huh? I did that in college. I was reselling my textbooks, and I was increasing my prices ever so slightly each week, just to make a point. .... actually I am not so sure if my "point" makes any sense.

<Is the gyuto and petty also from konosuke?>

I know Pete has a Konosuke gyuto... I didn't know he has a petty now. Congratulation, Petek.

I think your tactic is correct. I think you should go for three knives, but makes the offer next Monday (not now). I think Petek needs some time to digest. He tends to "freeze" when under pressure. I froze when I shopped for my car last time and the car dealer was criticizing me -- it was an odd experience..... he wanted me to put money down, but I said I am not ready to decide to buy this particular car (an Accura) yet, and then he said that I am mising the best opportunity of my life, and then he managed to said "Do you know what is wrong with you?" "You cannot make decision on the spot"

High pressure sales tactics is a good way to get me to shop somewhere else.

I had a similar experience buying a used Toyota Tercel off the Ford dealers used lot. I was a cash customer and made that very clear. I was out of town and struck a deal with the saleswoman to buy it for exactly how much cash I had. When I went to the lot, the sales manager would not honor the deal that caused my drive 70 miles with my father to get the car. I told him again that I was a cash customer and he tried to get me to finance $500. I told him no thank you and proceeded leave when he (sales manager) went on a tirade.

The saleswoman came in the next day to learn the sale fell through and asked why. I related what the sales manager did to me and told her I was no longer interested at any price. She called back confirming the price we originally agreed to and I relayed my dissatisfaction with the sales manager and wasting 140 miles of gas money and time to show up and be treated so poorly. Two days later she sweetened the deal and had the car delivered to me and promised I would not have to talk to or see the sale manager again (I think he was fired).

If I had more money to buy a better car, I would have purchased something from a different source. Such is life for a freshman in college with limited options.

Hi. Yeah there’s a boatload of different brands of “Sabatier” knives floating around -- including cheap knock-offs. From what I read, the authentic ones were made in France by one of several founding / affiliated manufacturers. Like K-Sabatier, ****Elephant / Thiers Issard, Veritable Bresduck, 2 Lion and Mercier et Cie.

FWIW, the 1st three listed above garnered the most positive user comments. Plus, the older “virgin” carbon steel knives (made prior to the late 1980’s) are said to be better than the later recycled carbon steel and stainless steel knives.

No,my gyuto will still be my main go to knife.The extra 2" will take some getting use to(although it's quite nimble for such a long blade).I bought it mainly to use as a carving/slicing knife for work.I gave her a light workout today at the shop and she performed very well(chopping herbs,julienning apples,makling a mirepoix).So far so good :)I could see a 240 or 270mm suji being used as a main knife though..

Beautiful knife, petek. Is it going to see use at work, or is it staying at home for now?

I'm guessing that, like their gyutos, the kono suji is a very slim knife without a pronounced right handed bias. Is that right?

Around Christmas, I went and finally bought a suji myself (asked for it as a gift, actually), with plans on trying it out for all-around prep. I went with the 270 mm Carbonext. Didn't do very much research into that particular knife, though I had handled Chem's carbonext santoku. Turns out, their suji is fairly thick and seems much better suited to use as a dedicated slicer than all-around prep. Even more problematic, there is a very pronounced righty bias, which made it pretty much impossible for (left-handed) me to use for prep. Serves me right for not doing my homework. Hope this one lives up to your expectations.

It is the HD version,and you're right,it is more or less "stainless' although after cutting some lemons today and not wiping down the blade immediately,I did notice a "patina" of sorts.Nothing like my carbons,but a slight change in appearance of the steel.Kinda cool actually..Not sure if you can see it in this photo..

I'm using a gyuto, a petty, and a honesuki from kono now and would recommend all three with ZERO reservations. Ive even been beating the crap out of my HD gyuto at work recently to see how much it can take and it's holding up just fine despite being a laser.

Yes, I did, teacher. I had huge knife crushes on CCK and Watanabe. Now, these have turned into love. :)

To be honest, I am not sure what knives I should get next. Since cowboy and you have raved about Konosuke, I may give that a try. I had a crush on Mizuno, but it is out of my reach. Hiromoto AS looks very good, but I have many Aogami (blue) steel knives, so I probably should branch out.

Chem, I'm not certain, but I believe the 'special thin' version is made to be even thinner than the version I bought. On the 210 mm gyuto, the spine thickness is listed at 1.3 mm. The weight - 95 grams.

Early signs seem to indicate Cowbabyardee favors his right hand. He is doing well, has excellent fine motor control for a 16 month old, and is very interested in what I'm up to in the kitchen - I'll have him applying precise compound bevels and blending em into a smooth convex edge with a mirror finish in no time.

I checked on Japanesechefsknife yesterday. Again, the JCK Original Aogmai Super knives are mostly sold out. Man, why do they sell out that quickly? By the way, the new Ryusen Blazen with Japanese Kaji looks nicer.

While at it, has Mark's Richmond knives gained any traction? That beyond the initial support and honeymoon period, have they gained quality reputation like the more established knife brands like Tojiro, Fujiwara, Shun, Global...etc.

It seems that Konosuke is producing the "Richmond Laser" for CKTG.Same profiles(petty and gyuto) same steel= Stainless AEB-LVery similar pricing.The petty is pretty much identical to my Kono SS petty(different handle,no machi).I bought mine for less.. :D