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Two Years Later, Ubuntu Isn't Running On Wayland

Phoronix: Two Years Later, Ubuntu Isn't Running On Wayland

I realized this morning that this week marks two years since Mark Shuttleworth shared his plans for Ubuntu's Unity to run on Wayland. Even after two years, Ubuntu's engagement with Wayland hasn't advanced much and it's consummation of Wayland is still likely at a minimum another year out...

Yet another wayland-is-not-ready. Get used to it! I wonder how much time wayland developers have to waste until they understand that the idea of the reference Wayland compositor Weston simply does not work. Trying to make full-featured DE nowadays is impossible for such small group of people. They could try to modify at least a single DE like Unity, KDE, Gnome or XFCE, but who wants to face real-life problems?

Yet another wayland-is-not-ready. Get used to it! I wonder how much time wayland developers have to waste until they understand that the idea of the reference Wayland compositor Weston simply does not work. Trying to make full-featured DE nowadays is impossible for such small group of people. They could try to modify at least a single DE like Unity, KDE, Gnome or XFCE, but who wants to face real-life problems?

It is impossible to say whether wayland is ready or not until at least 1 full-featured DE appears. As for me, I would never believe that wayland has a reliable replacement for every technology used in XServer, like XDamage (forced redrawing on specific events), XEvIE (accessibility stuff), XComposite (ok, maybe this could be done in compositor), XCB (input+i18n), xinerama (multiple screens), xrandr (dynamic change of display properties) and so on.

Yet another wayland-is-not-ready. Get used to it! I wonder how much time wayland developers have to waste until they understand that the idea of the reference Wayland compositor Weston simply does not work. Trying to make full-featured DE nowadays is impossible for such small group of people. They could try to modify at least a single DE like Unity, KDE, Gnome or XFCE, but who wants to face real-life problems?

Isn't Weston something they just made to show and test that it works? What's the problem with that? I recall they said it's not meant to be used as a DE or anything.. It's a reference compositor, something that can be referenced to. Kind of like twm. And it's up to the DEs to make themselves work with Wayland anyways.(KDE is working towards that direction. They're just not in a hurry. And you've seen what happens when people are in a hurry. )
Making a minimal environment is of course easier than modifying an existing(and potentially huge) project that they have no control over it's changes. They can change Weston at their own pace. Wouldn't those actually benefit a small group of people?