Again, you're just projecting your petty insecurities on everybody else. There are actually people in the world who want to learn things, not just protect the little world that they've created in their heads. That's why science exists.

Again, you're just projecting your petty insecurities on everybody else. There are actually people in the world who want to learn things, not just protect the little world that they've created in their heads. That's why science exists.

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No...you're a cult that worships science as body of doctrines that supports the philosophy of physicalism. That's all you are. Own it.

"Cult" and "worship" are not words that I would use, but restricting ourselves to reality is what I would definitely call a good thing. Do you call science a bad thing in general? Or only when it disagrees with you?

Now when I see children blown to bits in Manchester in the name of Islam, I believe it is rational to fear Islam and the muslims who carry out these violent acts.

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The mistake is in generalizing to "Muslims" - as if you think merely being Muslim means they want to kill infidels.

The rational fear is of extremism. You should fear the actual criminals, not just anyone who shares some beliefs.

Ten people were killed here in Toronto - not by Muslims - but by a person who had extremist views about sexism. We are far more danger from people with extreme views about anything at all than we are by the particularly Muslim terrorists in the world.

That is your opinion. I doubt very much that many mothers and young girls will agree that they have an IRRATIONAL fear, of going out into crowded places in Manchester.

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They don't, for the most part.

Have you been to Manchester? I bet you haven't. I have. Life goes on as normal, albeit with a some degree of heightened awareness of potential terrorism. We put up with this state of affairs for decades in the UK at the time of the Irish "Troubles", i.e. the IRA and Prod paramilitary bombing campaigns. There are no opaque litter bins on Waterloo station, to this day. This recent muslim terrorism is no different. You are far more likely to be run over by a bus. We do not go around in fear.

Stop spreading anti-muslim hysteria. Where are you? In Putin's St Petersburg troll farm? Or are you just a panicky coward, somewhere in the US Midwest?

So are you telling us that none of those survivors are still afraid and traumatized from the horrific Islamic attack. And if they are, they are being "irrational"? Grow up and get real. These were targeted women and children we are talking about.

I don't doubt for a second that "Life goes on as normal" for many of the people of Manchester, especially those who weren't affected directly by this atrocious Islamic attack.. But this doesn't mean that those who are affected by this vile unprovoked attack on hundreds of women and very young girls are being "IRRATIONAL" to fear Islam. DOES IT?!

We put up with this state of affairs for decades in the UK at the time of the Irish "Troubles", i.e. the IRA and Prod paramilitary bombing campaigns.

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Yes I and the people of Birmingham put up with the Birmingham bombings and I had two friends seriously injured while enjoying a peaceful drink in the Tavern In The Town , New Street., What's your point? I didn't here any reports of the bombers shouting "god is great" (Allahu Akbar in Arabic) before the bombs were detonated. I didn't hear Martin Mcguinness or Gerry Adams telling the world that those atrocities were done in the name of the god of Christianity. AND I didn't see any reports of these IRA atrocities being celebrated around the world by millions of Christians, as was 9/11 . You are pissing in the wind with that comparison.

So are you telling us that none of those survivors are still afraid and traumatized from the horrific Islamic attack. And if they are, they are being "irrational"? Grow up and get real. These were targeted women and children we are talking about.

I have. I am a United fan and hardly missed a home game.

You lose. I have relations in Whitefield.

I don't doubt for a second that "Life goes on as normal" for many of the people of Manchester, especially those who weren't affected directly by this atrocious Islamic attack.. But this doesn't mean that those who are affected by this vile unprovoked attack on hundreds of women and very young girls are being "IRRATIONAL" to fear Islam. DOES IT?!

Yes I and the people of Birmingham put up with the Birmingham bombings and I had two friends seriously injured while enjoying a peaceful drink in the Tavern In The Town , New Street., What's your point? I didn't here any reports of the bombers shouting "god is great" (Allahu Akbar in Arabic) before the bombs were detonated. I didn't hear Martin Mcguinness or Gerry Adams telling the world that those atrocities were done in the name of the god of Christianity. AND I didn't see any reports of these IRA atrocities being celebrated around the world by millions of Christians, as was 9/11 . You are pissing in the wind with that comparison.

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Not at all. My point is that, contrary to your hysterical assertions, people in Manchester do not go around in fear, just because there has been a terrorist incident. Nor do people in London, where I live, in spite a several terrorist attacks here. As I say, you are more likely to die in a road accident.

That is your opinion. I doubt very much that many mothers and young girls will agree that they have an IRRATIONAL fear, of going out into crowded places in Manchester.

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You are at more risk of being killed by a white extremist than a Muslim. So if you fear death at the hands of Muslims than whites, you have an irrational fear. And given that you've just brought emotion into it (what about YOUNG GIRLS?) you're even more irrational than most.

Let's look at the facts of risks here in the US:

Number of people killed by coal power plants in the US in 2017: 7500
Number of people killed by white supremacists in 2017: 18
Number of people killed by Islamic extremists in 2017: 9