Pretty good album; I've never understood why so many hate this band, there were many bands much worse than Winger; Reb Beach is an amazing guitarist and Kip Winger delivered good vocal performances.

"Pull" and "IV" are great albums, much better than the debut.

Completely agree on Reb's ability as a guitarist here. I haven't found a sound or style that's exactly like this since or before. Of course it's played within glam metal confines, but there's some refreshing playing going on here. Kip's voice is natural and a great mix of 80s metal style, a slight rasp, and it's sultry as well in the "Headed For A Heartbreak" single, something only a handful of 80s glam metal bands had.

I get tired of the release after multiple listens, but it always comes back when I need a slight deviation from my usual playlist. I haven't heard enough of Pull and IV to accurately judge, perhaps soon now.

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"After silence that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley

Spin it any way you guys want to. it's still glam metal and a product of record companies greed and corporate america...

Just like every other band that has a record label, right?
*cough*hater*cough*

hmmm...maybe I am naive but the glam metal era and its tags receive the most critism for manufactured - over saturated music...selling out...

So, are you implying that there was Glam Metal (And other related tags like Pop Metal and Glam Metal) that was underground and, therefore good before it "sold out?" Glam Metal is infact a genre in itself, and has no back ties with other Metal genres except for similar punk and proto-metal influences.
Also, isn't all music technically "manufactured?" How does music become "oversaturated?"

These guys are definitely pretty shitty but I still don't understand the hate they get.

Were they extremely popular at some point or something? I'd be curious to check out that Hendrix cover.

They were very popular when the debut was released, and them went downhill after that (the 90's: Hard rock declining, Alternative rock gaining more mainstream). Kip Winger once said that no one would make fun of his band, and them they started to be ridiculed in this cartoon mentioned above... I forgot the name... and there's also a scene of Lars (from metallica) throwing darts at his poster. All of that helped to grow the hate against them. And that cover isn't good at all.

Being a 45 year old rocker, I grew up on bands like winger. very underrated band. I saw them in Bristol last night!.... still got what it takes.
in my opinion karma is the best album they've done so far