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Comment by nowhereman

This and Orb of the Forgottens seer, or the horde quest reward from the SM quest is very good combos.

Comment by Kargan

Yeah but the rogues that need on this one are noobs!

Comment by Drolfeir

I got two of these on my rogue mostly for a joke back before patch 2.0 when they were still 'one hand' (+intellect for skilling up haha), but as daggers at that level go, it's actually quite good:

* DPS-wise it's the best of the easily obtainable daggers in the 30s bracket (ed. note: Prior to the great-honor-change the best dagger for 39 was a rep reward). A team of stealthers can farm these in no time (if you're farming with druids they are assured a great blue for casting, the Illusionary Rod). * The speed is ideal for use with poison. Paired with the Sword of Omen it was the best a rogue could get out of SM; The next PVE upgrades are coming out of RFD and Maraudon.

(Still, we rogues can get these pretty easily, so don't take them away from mages, warlocks, shamans or priests. They'd get more mileage out of this dagger for certain.)

(Edited because voters couldn't see it was originally posted before 2.0 changed its handedness. It should be noted though, that since this can't be off-handed with the Sword of Omen any more that you may as well get the new and improved version of the Bloody Brass Knuckles, lower DPS sadly. Of the off-hand choices, it's probably the best you could do. )

Comment by Serakhel

This is one of the best caster weapons available for the level, and should last quite a while. If you're a mage, pairing it with Celestial Orb (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=7515) works quite nicely.

Comment by XFGREAPER

Comment by Blacktalis

This is a castor dagger from Scarlet Monastaries Library, but with the permission of the castors in your party, this also makes for one of the best hitting Rogue Daggers at that level.

Comment by Vexed99

This is a caster item, as all the stats and +damage are directly related to their abilities and spells. The fact that it is a dagger attracts the attention of many rogues, but infact there are a few other options for daggers on both factions that provide far more bonus to the rogue class. (drops from Arcanist Doan in Scarlet Monastery Library)

Comment by Flanker

That dagger was nerfed and is totally useless now. As a Main Hand, this is a horrible choice. I use The Ziggler (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=8006) as my Main Hand and Howling Blade (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=6331) as my offhand. That, even though I have this weapon. This would make an excellent Offhand, but as a Main hand, there are much better choices.

Comment by Raidan

i realised this nerf just recently.. but as a 70 rogue i'm not alway up to date with lvl ~30 caster weaps ;DIt's a shame to see the change... i can rember swinging this thing in my offhand when i was at this "age" (nearly two years ago :O )

now i was thinking of it as a wonderfull shami weapon (dual or offhand) but now that won't work out anymore :-/(or at last not like i wanted it to happen....)

Comment by Darkraven

Stat wise is thing is almost as good as the Mind Carver sword form DM west, and can last quite a few level if you got a good off-hand. Like the one horde gets form their SM quest.

Comment by Catalyze

There are a few things to consider with this weapon:1. It is a Level 39 Item (useable at 34) and therefore can use the higher level enchants from TBC. Items with levels below Level 35 (item level, not useable level) can only use the older (and more expensive on my server) enchants.2. Warlocks and Shadow Priests should also look for http://www.wowhead.com/?item=13029 as an offhand. Priests can not get the Warlock offhand since they can not do the quest for it. With this and the above dagger you can enchant it for a total of +66 Shadow Damage.

Comment by Incoherent

This is correct. (A1win above) If there is a level requirement, that is what is applicable. If there is no level requirement, such as for quest rewards or engineered items, TBC enchants can be applied to the item if the item level is 35 or above.It is for this reason I have taken the Celestial Orb together with the Sword of Serenity ( http://www.wowhead.com/?item=6829 ) with +40 spell damage instead of this dagger on my level 39 mage. +9 Stamina and +1 spell damage over the highest (extremely hard to find +30 spell power) available pre TBC enchant on the Hypnotic Blade...

BTW, Celestial orb can be obtained at level 35. If you filter available offhands in Wowhead to show items available to <level 39, it will not show up, but I can confirm that it can be obtained. Soloed the last part of the quest at level 35 with a bit of thought and a respec to frost... I do not believe it is achievable fire specced at this level without assistance but that's another subject...

Comment by Mandos

Why don't combine this one with the Orb of Forgotten Seer? For a priest like my little shadow one (or for other caster) a nice +21 dam/heal (with +8 int & +3 spir) isn't so bad (hardly easier to get than Staff of Jordan and better than near-level-staves) and both of the items drop in the Scarlet Monastery with a good rate (about 50%).If you are lucky you can drop 'em all in a single run... good luck then!

Comment by Zano

Comment by Bobthepriest

anyone know how long this would last a priest from 34?

Comment by gonjah

ok check this out i took some of the caster drops from sm an put them together to see what kinda stats i would get from different set combinations. Heres what i got:R.o.D= robe of Doan M.o.D.= mantle of Doan ILL Rod= illusionary rod Hyp Bld + Orb FS= hypnotic blade + Orb of the forgotten seerer combo B. Mage M= blood mage mantle

Comment by Nina

Lets face it, there are tons of combos because of the fact that there are different needs for each different class. Some are harder than others to get to, some are not. Whatever rare offhand you stumble across will do just nicely together with this baby at this level because the difference isnt very big.

Comment by Fayne

Well... seeing as mostly all of the warlocks on this page posted as having this dagger as a main hand and pairing it with the Orb of Dar'Orahil, I bring it upon myself to give another alternative for warlocks at the 35-40 level range. The Orb of Noh'Orahil -http://www.wowhead.com/?item=15107- is the orb that I got from completing the questline starting with Knowledge of the Orb of Orahil. The orb is obtained at a "fork" in the questline, where (depending on which shard you get from a creature in Desolace) you can get either the Orb of Noh'Orahil or the Orb of Dar'Orahil. The only difference between these two orbs is that one gives +14 fire damage, and one gives +14 shadow damage. The clear choice between the two is indeed the Orb of Dar'Orahil, but if you are a warlock that is just starting this questline, you won't have any idea that there's a totally different reward depending on which acolyte's quest you choose to do.

Comment by styric

There is secret nerf or bug for level 39 twink casters in my opinion. Hypnotic Blade can't be enchanted with BC enchants at the moment because dagger has level 34 requirement, not level 35 which is needed by BC enchants. If you want to check item level from official site(armory) Hypnotic Blade, you will see actually item level 39 which is okay with BC enchants.

There was a blue post on Europe forums. Blizzard poster was explained requirement levels considered as item level for enchants. Topic is here

Well as poster says, there shouldn't be any bug for BC enchant requirements but it's wrong. Lets show proofs.

Another 39 bracket twinking item; Legguards of the Vault carrying level 34 as a requirement and item level is 39. Armory Link. All level requirements and item level values same as Hypnotic Blade. Both required level 34 and both item level is 39 and Legguards of the Vault can be enchanted with BC enchants.

Comment by skodtank

So, ye, can't put major spellpower on it :(

whispers: Greetings weaponmaster Skodtank. My name is Gamemaster Valieroth, sorry to interrupt your gameplay, may i have some time to assist you with your ticket regarding Hypnotic blade?To : sure :) whispers: this weapon is a level 34 item.To : required for use y, itemlvl showed as lv 39 whispers:Oh sorry you cannot put enchants on this weapon from TBC or WrathTo : O.o why whispers: I cannot sayTo : kinda stupid as it's having a itemlevel higher than required by the enchants :/ whispers: If you believe this is something players would be interested in you can post on the suggestion forums at http://forums.wow-europe.com/. To : :p doubt anyone would read it anyway ^^ whispers: We monitor them :)To : aha :)

Comment by kasperkaas

the dagger plus http://www.wowhead.com/?item=13029 is a pretty nasty combo for mages and warlocks who doesnt get/do the q thing. but else 14 sp and 5 stamina from off hand plus 8 Intellect +3 Spirit and 9 sp for a total of

23 spell power5 stamina8 intellect3 spirit

with is pretty good for a "low lvl" casters

Comment by pimpinjavi

This has an item level of 39 making it available for TBC enchants! {Hooray +40 Spellpower!)

Comment by Thaspraya

2 Hunters just rolled on this against me(priest). I mean, cmon?

Comment by SpareSimian

This is the best main hand priest weapon until level 52, when you can get the Hammer of Grace in Blackrock Depths:

Comment by Nbrothers

As of patch 4.0.3a the level requirement of this item has been reduced to 29 from 30 making it the (non-BOA) Best In Slot (BIS) main hand for many lvl 29 twink caster classes. Level 29 twink flag runners (Druids, Shamans, Warriors) may also want to use the item for the stamina boost.

Because the item level of this item before patch 4.0.3a was 35, it was possible to enchant it with BC enchants (+40 spell power, +30 int). These enchantments remain active on the item after the patch but the item can no longer be enchanted with BC enchantments because it's item level was reduced to 34. This item is therefore categorized as a "grandfathered" item.

Previously grandfathered items include the Windstorm Hammer.

Comment by dyzongb

Sorry this a bit late. But I was able to enchant it with +20 strength or Enchant Weapon - Potency. Here's my character link. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/gnomeregan/al%C3%A9ks/simpleAnd yes I enchanted it BEFORE patch 4.0.3a and you can enchant any item that has an item level of 35+ with TBC enchants now. It does not need the required level 35 anymore =)

Comment by xpuntar

There is something extremely fishy about that item. Compared to Balnazzar's Horn, which has +13 higher item level, Hypnotic Blade still has way higher overall stats.

Stamina by +4, Intellect by +2, while "trading" only -2 on some other stat!

Comment by FlayOnDarkIron

This dagger is overly good for its level. Consider this.. At level 51, as a resto shaman for instance, you can get aHammer of Grace.. 22 item levels in difference and all your are doing is swapping four stam for four spirit...

Something is wrong with this dagger..

Comment by Aquifel

I just noticed this looking for an upgrade for it, and there really just isnt one for a long long (LONG) time. Thankfully, it even looks kinda cool.

Comment by Alayea

Removed in patch 5.0.4.

Comment by L30t53dd6p

It sucks to have this on my 29 Hunter and NOT on my 29 Warlock for it's stamina set!