Okay, first of all, as someone who has seen both of them and a couple of others at the Queen's a number of times and not just through bootlegs, Killian did not do 'the Jump'. Most Enjolras actors tend to jump down a certain bit on the way down to get to Marius and not climb all the way, that's normal, David's jump down was just significantly bigger, was great, quick and impressive. Despite being a bit of a risk for him, personally (especially when he had injured his back quite badly) it didn't look 'reckless' considering he was in compelete control of the jump. As has been said before, I don't see how it would be a 'symbol of the character's recklessness'. Enjolras is different in the musical, but still, it certainly didn't ever come across like that at all.

Slash: 1. The ability of most Mizzies to see homoeroticism in everything that is slightly related to their favourite characters.2. A crime that, when committed by an fanfiction author, tends to make characters behave ooc and horny.

@Simara - What? Slash isn't a Les Mis term, it's been around for decades. And as far as the second one.... what slash fiction have you been reading that you deem slash ooc? To me it just sounds as though you're bashing slash fanfiction authors. Please do correct me if I'm wrong there, but this seems extremely wrong and rather rude without context.

However, this sceptic had one fantacism. This fantacism was neither a dogma, nor an art, nor a science; it was a man: Enjolras. Grantaire admired, loved and venerated Enjolras.

@Simara - What a sweeping generalization to make. Also rather insultive to everyone who has ever written slash or even the barest form of homoeroticism.

You've also managed to imply that sexuality is the crux of characterization. As opposed to what the character stands for, how they would react, their beliefs and actions, and pretty much every single thing about them.

But I don't feel like dancin' when the old joanna playsMy heart could take a chance but my two feet can't find a wayYou'd think that I could muster up a little soft shoe gentle swayBut I don't feel like dancin', no sir, no dancin' today.

Saint Jolras wrote:@Simara - What a sweeping generalization to make. Also rather insultive to everyone who has ever written slash or even the barest form of homoeroticism.

You've also managed to imply that sexuality is the crux of characterization. As opposed to what the character stands for, how they would react, their beliefs and actions, and pretty much every single thing about them.

I didn't want to insult anyone. I'm writing/reading slash myself. It wasn't suposed to be too serious at all. The starter of this topic said, the definations should be funny and i tried to be selfironic. I'm very sorry, and i do apologize. I gues I shouldn't try to be funny in a foreign language.

TCRegan wrote:@Simara - What? Slash isn't a Les Mis term, it's been around for decades. And as far as the second one.... what slash fiction have you been reading that you deem slash ooc? To me it just sounds as though you're bashing slash fanfiction authors. Please do correct me if I'm wrong there, but this seems extremely wrong and rather rude without context.

I know that slash isn't a Les Mis term, but it was on the list the author of this topic had posted. Again, I tried to be selfironic with the defination. It seems that some kinds of humor can't be translated. I do apologize.

I'd forgotten about this thread, but it seems an appropriate place to link to Ye Olde Fandom Glossary -http://www.lmffi.com/glossary.htmlInteresting to see how a few of them have fallen out of use in the last ten years, probably a side effect of the way fandom has shifted its focus so firmly to Les Amis and nobody else.Like, who writes proper Javert porn anymore?