re: CVG sources say PS4 reveal in matter of weeks(Posted by sicboy on 1/21/13 at 3:51 pm to UltimateHog)

quote:Could have upgrade options for RAM in the next gen consoles, not like it is hard.

Correct me if I'm missing something, but how would developers plan on an option like this? Not knowing how much RAM each console will have? The idea of a console is to have a uniform platform, am I right?

re: CVG sources say PS4 reveal in matter of weeks(Posted by stout on 1/21/13 at 3:53 pm to sicboy)

quote:Correct me if I'm missing something, but how would developers plan on an option like this? Not knowing how much RAM each console will have? The idea of a console is to have a uniform platform, am I right?

Exactly unless they start having Normal and Ultra graphic options like PC

re: CVG sources say PS4 reveal in matter of weeks(Posted by UltimateHog on 1/21/13 at 3:53 pm to stout)

quote:Wait...you start these threads to discuss rumors

Just me? Lord no, TheKaptain started the PS4 controller rumor from the same CVG site just the other day, it went 3 pages did you miss it?

quote:when we point out things in those rumors you get mad and no longer want to discuss those things?

Lol wut? Making a thread is for others to discuss and if I so chose, to jump in, I did for awhile, nothing was being said that drew my attention and that was that. This thread for example, your doucheness has peaked my interest and I'm posting non stop in it, otherwise I probably would have posted maybe 1-2 more times and been out.

quote:Not only that but you jump completlty to making hypotheticals up that have NEVER been rumored by anyone?

Again, what? You claim 4GB of DDR5 RAM isn't enough for next gen consoles, when it completely is, it's even enough for PC's. Your response is "but it MAY be shared between the GPU and CPU" which again, is not known.

re: CVG sources say PS4 reveal in matter of weeks(Posted by UltimateHog on 1/21/13 at 3:55 pm to sicboy)

quote:Correct me if I'm missing something, but how would developers plan on an option like this? Not knowing how much RAM each console will have? The idea of a console is to have a uniform platform, am I right?

No idea, the next gen consoles were rumored to have upgradable RAM/GPU's and still might.

re: CVG sources say PS4 reveal in matter of weeks(Posted by UltimateHog on 1/21/13 at 3:57 pm to stout)

quote:RAM

Last thing I want to say about this is that it seems like Microsoft and Sony are taking different approaches. Microsoft are going with slower DDR RAM but more of it, they seem to be "saving" a lot of RAM for OS functions, in other words it looks like Microsoft have some sort of plans, maybe Kinect 2.0 or something. Sony on the other hand went with less RAM but it is faster GDDR RAM and Sony are also seemingly spending more money on the GPU. In other words the way it looks the PS4 will be engineered to be a pure gaming machine with more power, the 720 will fall in between the PS4 and Wii U in terms of power. It's interesting though because Microsoft are intent on saving a lot of money on memory and GPU from the looks of it and then they allocate a lot of RAM for some sort of software function. I'm thinking maybe it might actually be true that Kinect 2.0 is going to ship with all 720's

re: CVG sources say PS4 reveal in matter of weeks(Posted by stout on 1/21/13 at 3:58 pm to UltimateHog)

My argument is and always has been that 4GB is enough...for now.

Things change and as long as they hope to get out of consoles (8/9 years on the current gen) it's silly to think that 4GB will always be enough.

I am sure in 2004/5 MS and Sony thought 512Mb was more than enough and by todays standards that is laughably bad. Developers have said that is not enough to do everything they would like to do these days.

As cheap as ram is it would make sense to "future proof" a console as best you can and at least add 2-4 more GBs.

re: CVG sources say PS4 reveal in matter of weeks(Posted by UltimateHog on 1/21/13 at 4:02 pm to stout)

quote:As cheap as ram is it would make sense to "future proof" a console as best you can and at least add 2-4 more GBs.

From what I posted in my previous post it seems like Microsoft's extra RAM is going towards Software/Kinect 2.0.

I don't know, if that's true I can't really see 8GB of slower RAM being any more beneficial than 4GB of faster RAM dedicated only to gaming.

quote:In other words the way it looks the PS4 will be engineered to be a pure gaming machine with more power, the 720 will fall in between the PS4 and Wii U in terms of power. It's interesting though because Microsoft are intent on saving a lot of money on memory and GPU from the looks of it and then they allocate a lot of RAM for some sort of software function. I'm thinking maybe it might actually be true that Kinect 2.0 is going to ship with all 720's