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Re: Deep breath time, Redszone.

Looking at the schedule with an optimistic eye, if they just play well enough to win the series against the bad teams and then start picking up some payback series vs the Cards, Rats, and the returning west coast teams, they could still push 95 wins. But they have to stay healthy and return 2 of the 4 who are missing.

Re: Deep breath time, Redszone.

Hubby keeps saying there is something seriously wrong in the clubhouse for the team to be this lackadaisical towards offense. Thoughts on that idea?

There doesn't seem to be any fire or drive to this team lately, like they just don't really care....

Of course they care, and no one cares more than their best hitters, Choo and Votto. But you can tell they are exhausted from trying to carry this offense on their backs. Baseball requires concentration, concentration requires lots of energy, even if it doesn't "look" overly physical.

Votto and Choo, with the occasional white hot week or two from Bruce, have no backup. So it all looks in disarray.

Re: Deep breath time, Redszone.

Hubby keeps saying there is something seriously wrong in the clubhouse for the team to be this lackadaisical towards offense. Thoughts on that idea?

There doesn't seem to be any fire or drive to this team lately, like they just don't really care....

I think that may be where Luddy has his biggest impact...even if the shoulder is weak (and by the few statements I saw, he was hitting balls pretty hard in BP before his rehab started, granted, its BP and he's currently 2-12 in rehab), but his clubhouse presence was one of the keys to last season, something I think the team needs. May not fix all ills, but I see a good run coming in August/September.

Re: Deep breath time, Redszone.

Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

Of course they care, and no one cares more than their best hitters, Choo and Votto. But you can tell they are exhausted from trying to carry this offense on their backs. Baseball requires concentration, concentration requires lots of energy, even if it doesn't "look" overly physical.

Votto and Choo, with the occasional white hot week or two from Bruce, have no backup. So it all looks in disarray.

Yep, relying too much on 3 guys to carry your team offensively (and only two of the 4 bats they do have consistently get on base or hit at any particular period of time)...has to be draining over a season's time...let alone 3, 4, 5 seasons now, while your GM constantly relies on 35-36 yr old, declining and broken-down vets to play 3B and LF.

I almost hope they drop out of the race so that they can make some trades and re-tool for next season, as there's just no way this team goes anywhere again in the post season, they are no different ultimately than they were the last two trips.

That said, I don't really "want" to see that, but, it wouldn't be so bad either, this team is still broken and incomplete, and I've lost patience with Dusty and Jocketty after just doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Re: Deep breath time, Redszone.

Originally Posted by CrackerJack

Yep, relying too much on 3 guys to carry your team offensively (and only two of the 4 bats they do have consistently get on base or hit at any particular period of time)...has to be draining over a season's time...let alone 3, 4, 5 seasons now, while your GM constantly relies on 35-36 yr old, declining and broken-down vets to play 3B and LF.

I almost hope they drop out of the race so that they can make some trades and re-tool for next season, as there's just no way this team goes anywhere again in the post season, they are no different ultimately than they were the last two trips.

That said, I don't really "want" to see that, but, it wouldn't be so bad either, this team is still broken and incomplete, and I've lost patience with Dusty and Jocketty after just doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

If this team makes it past the 1 game wild card, it's crazy to say they can't win it all. Maybe not likely, but we have the pitching necessary.

Re: Deep breath time, Redszone.

Time to revisit the op's point of this thread: You know, to remain positive.

Our favorite team took care of business -- while the Cards and Pirates both stumbled -- and now are in a much more favorable position than one week ago -- with even more favorable matchups on the horizon. The divisional title that was thought to be out of reach to some not that long ago seems more plausible by the day.

It's a great time to be a Reds fan!

"I have just been more than a little suspect of all the trades since the Willy (Scott Williamson) cash grab. That one left such a bad taste in my mouth that even a 1985 Dom Pérignon couldn't cleanse it." -- Creek14

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