Police search roadways for Hernandez evidence

Authorities in Massachusetts continue to look for clues in the Aaron Hernandez case, apparently including roads near where the murder of Odin Lloyd occurred.

According to Fox 25 in Boston, state and local police have searched the areas near Highway 128 South and along Route 95 in Dedham, with seven officers spotted at one point searching the shoulder and grass next to the left travel lane.

That’s the route police think Hernandez traveled en route to his home in North Attleboro the night Lloyd was killed.

A side mirror from Hernandez’s rental car was missing, and they could also be looking for shell casings or bullets, according to the report.

I am not involved with any time of law enforcement, never have been and don’t watch any of the very popular law eneforcement shows on tv but shouldn’t this search(s) been done several weeks ago, you know, right after this murder took place? Just a thought.

69finfan says:
Jul 18, 2013 9:21 AM
I am not involved with any time of law enforcement, never have been and don’t watch any of the very popular law eneforcement shows on tv but shouldn’t this search(s) been done several weeks ago, you know, right after this murder took place? Just a thought.

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They’ve been searching this area looking for the broken rear-view mirror for weeks. They’ve even asked for the public’s help in finding this mirror.

North Attleboro is on the Connecticut border: 40 miles from Boston. A search of 40 miles is going to take some time.

-AH gets arrested, and the DA slowly but surely leaks/discloses information. Most objective people believe AH is guilty of the Lloyd murder, or was heavily involved.

-Judge issues a gag order. Despite that, more and more information is leaked, and the public continues to try him in their minds.

-AH is all of a sudden tied to the double homicide from 18 months ago. Everyone is ready to string him up and hang him. Public opinion pretty much is ready to convict him in court.

-The DA is STILL looking for evidence. No trial date has been set as of yet.

Look, I think AH did it. Everyone does. But either they have enough evidence to go to trial, or they don’t. If there ISNT enough evidence to go to trial at this point, WHY THE EFF is he still in jail without bond??? Its like theyre saying: hey we think you did it, but we cant prove it yet. so were gonna hold you in jail indefinitely until we can finally find enough evidence to put you away forever.

That is NOT how the justice system is supposed to work. If he is guilty, Im all for life sentence. But this gestapo tactic of “were gonna keep you in jail until we can find enough evidence to put you away forever” is straight out of communist russia, and no one should be okay with that, for the simple reason that its a slippery slope. And once we start down that path, its not gonna be long before this happens to a lot of people NOT named Aaron Hernandez.

kpettas123: you are not that smart. Why do you think they charged him with illegal weapons possession. That is a slam dunk conviction that gets him multiple years in jail. Keep in mind these are media reports that also said he was getting hit with obstruction of justice.

10 Bucks says they find several of Ortiz’s syringes and Withdrawl Vomit puddles, before they find a gun or a mirror. Maybe even the deep fried moose carcas that Wallace tossed out of the window when he was done having a snack before killing Lloyd.

It is tough to convict someone of 1st degree murder, first of all. Not having the gun and having witnesses that do not have the greatest of backgrounds will be a problem in a circumstantial case. They may have over-reached on the charges. Hopefully, the prosecutors have given the jury manslaughter options.

-AH gets arrested, and the DA slowly but surely leaks/discloses information. Most objective people believe AH is guilty of the Lloyd murder, or was heavily involved.

-Judge issues a gag order. Despite that, more and more information is leaked, and the public continues to try him in their minds.

-AH is all of a sudden tied to the double homicide from 18 months ago. Everyone is ready to string him up and hang him. Public opinion pretty much is ready to convict him in court.

-The DA is STILL looking for evidence. No trial date has been set as of yet.

Look, I think AH did it. Everyone does. But either they have enough evidence to go to trial, or they don’t. If there ISNT enough evidence to go to trial at this point, WHY THE EFF is he still in jail without bond??? Its like theyre saying: hey we think you did it, but we cant prove it yet. so were gonna hold you in jail indefinitely until we can finally find enough evidence to put you away forever.

That is NOT how the justice system is supposed to work. If he is guilty, Im all for life sentence. But this gestapo tactic of “were gonna keep you in jail until we can find enough evidence to put you away forever” is straight out of communist russia, and no one should be okay with that, for the simple reason that its a slippery slope. And once we start down that path, its not gonna be long before this happens to a lot of people NOT named Aaron Hernandez.
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Asked George Zimmerman how this works. Everybody but the court found him guilty.

kpettas123: you are not that smart. Why do you think they charged him with illegal weapons possession. That is a slam dunk conviction that gets him multiple years in jail. Keep in mind these are media reports that also said he was getting hit with obstruction of justice.

I don’t care if this gets downvoted…but I’m thinking the authorities know this is largely circumstantial. They would have given up looking for this mirror a month later if they had enough on AH. I think dude may end up walking.

Juries these days suffer from what is known as the “Law and Order” effect. It raises jurors’ expectations that prosecutors must produce finger prints, DNA, fibers – from beyond reasonable doubt, to “I have a picture of the guy doing it”, before they are willing to convict. The more physical evidence the prosecution produces, the more likely justice will be served.

AH gets arrested, and the DA slowly but surely leaks/discloses information. Most objective people believe AH is guilty of the Lloyd murder, or was heavily involved.

-Judge issues a gag order. Despite that, more and more information is leaked, and the public continues to try him in their minds.

-AH is all of a sudden tied to the double homicide from 18 months ago. Everyone is ready to string him up and hang him. Public opinion pretty much is ready to convict him in court.

-The DA is STILL looking for evidence. No trial date has been set as of yet.

Look, I think AH did it. Everyone does. But either they have enough evidence to go to trial, or they don’t. If there ISNT enough evidence to go to trial at this point, WHY THE EFF is he still in jail without bond??? Its like theyre saying: hey we think you did it, but we cant prove it yet. so were gonna hold you in jail indefinitely until we can finally find enough evidence to put you away forever.

That is NOT how the justice system is supposed to work. If he is guilty, Im all for life sentence. But this gestapo tactic of “were gonna keep you in jail until we can find enough evidence to put you away forever” is straight out of communist russia, and no one should be okay with that, for the simple reason that its a slippery slope. And once we start down that path, its not gonna be long before this happens to a lot of people NOT named Aaron Hernandez.

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Couldnt have said it better myself. Innocent until proven guilty…Looks like they are grasping at straws trying to convict this guy. He is guilty of something, but what?

I have no idea the answer and I may sound like an idiot asking, but the guns and amo found, would a person use similar calibers at shooting ranges?? Again I dont know anything about guns so thats why Im asking? Inform me people…

The lone bullet casing found in the car was the result of the gun being fire from the car–fired out of the window? I mean its not like they picked up a casing from the scene and brought it back to the car.

Perhaps this bullet actually hit the side view mirror so they tore the mirror off to destroy evidence that a gun/THE gun was fired out the window by the driver.

Dude is gonna walk when ur biggest piece of evidence u hav is a mirror and they can’t get him for obstruction of evidence cause they hav no clue what was on his phone or his security system they can’t assum cause they hav no clue lol unless they find a gun he walks

@Grulks – I’ve been saying this for weeks. It’s not about Aaron Hernandez for the rest of us. It’s about the license that the authorities take in times like this to create new policies that are overlooked by the masses while they are in the midst of dramatic outrage.

Like Rahm Emmanuel says: “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.”

The concern should be about what will be happening to unnamed people when the media hordes have run off to sell the next big controversy, and the authorities continue with short term licenses as standard operating procedure. There won’t be any cameras around to help them. It’s similar to what happens with the HSA. What was designed to thwart terrorism has been used more against our own citizens than terrorists. They can’t help it. It’s human nature. That’s why we have to be vigilant and defend the rights of someone most people don’t want to defend, because the next time the prosecutor leaks what they want to be made public and it is used by the media to drum up a conviction in the court of public opinion, it could be YOU.

You know from the beginning this didn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. I’m not saything that he’s not capable of doing what he was accused of but this kid is a wanna be gang banger. He would have to be smarter than what he’s shown. You don’t survive on the streets by being stupid. And, everything that he done shows that he’s stupid. I don’t know what’s going on here but I’m pretty sure it’s more to this than we know.

If we’ve learned anything about Hernandez in the past few weeks, it is he is the worst criminal in the world. My guess is this story is completely inaccurate because a criminal as bad as Hernandez would have left a post-it note on the fridge about where all of the evidence is hidden.

“I have no idea the answer and I may sound like an idiot asking, but the guns and amo found, would a person use similar calibers at shooting ranges?? Again I dont know anything about guns so thats why Im asking? Inform me people…”
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Absolutely. These are not uncommon firearms, and most shooting/handgun enthusiasts would own one, if not several.

I’m not a shooter myself, but I have a friend who’s family has a big range built in their backyard. Their family and friends shoot there weekly and every one of those guys owns 5-10 handguns each.

Like I said, it’s not my thing, but we did shoot for the first half of his bachelor party and it was a blast. I can see how people really enjoy it.

There are a lot of moronic posts in this thread. Everything points to the police being as thorough as possible in investigating a high-profile case – they’re not going to just up and stop their investigation because they think they have enough evidence for a conviction. Searching a massive stretch of highway can take a long time.

And, to the guy who apparently thinks people get held in jail without bond until the DA builds a case – that isn’t the way it works. He’s being held without bond because there is some possibility that he poses a danger to society (and, possibly, because he could be a flight risk), since there is reason to believe that he was involved in the execution-style murder of at least one individual. It takes a long time for even the simplest case to go to trial because there is generally a lengthy pretrial discovery process and courts in many states have heavy backlogs, to say nothing of accommodations that have to be made for the schedules of attorneys, families, and witnesses. People are not held in jail simply for the authorities to build a case against them (that doesn’t even make sense, anyway – how would releasing AH interfere with their ability to search a stretch of highway?).

You know from the beginning this didn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. I’m not saything that he’s not capable of doing what he was accused of but this kid is a wanna be gang banger. He would have to be smarter than what he’s shown. You don’t survive on the streets by being stupid. And, everything that he done shows that he’s stupid. I don’t know what’s going on here but I’m pretty sure it’s more to this than we know.
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When did he live on the streets? He went from HS, to University of Florida, to the Patriots. It’s not like the Pats saw him tearing it up on the schoolyard and decided to sign him.

Since the use of bail has been mentioned several times I would like to comment on it. I don’t know how needing bail to stay out of jail until your trial ever started, but it is wrong. It makes being innocent until proven guilty a farce. A poor person cannot raise bail. The average person has to bond out using money they will never see again even if they are proved innocent. The rich though have no downside. It does not cost them 1 cent to post bail and usually the courts merely put a hold on their assets. There is no precedent for how much bail will be it’s an arbitrary decision by the judge. It is also a decision by the judge whether or not bail will be awarded. If you miss a court date to appear then I can see incarceration but not when no crime has been proven. This covers anything from speeding to murder. The whole idea of bail sucks and goes against equal rights under the law.

You know from the beginning this didn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. I’m not saything that he’s not capable of doing what he was accused of but this kid is a wanna be gang banger. He would have to be smarter than what he’s shown. You don’t survive on the streets by being stupid. And, everything that he done shows that he’s stupid. I don’t know what’s going on here but I’m pretty sure it’s more to this than we know.
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When did he live on the streets? He went from HS, to University of Florida, to the Patriots. It’s not like the Pats saw him tearing it up on the schoolyard and decided to sign him.

When you use the term streets it doesn’t mean actually living on the streets it means the type of lifestyle he was living if he’s guilty of the charge

The only place Aaron is walking to is
death row. The Pats didnt just throw him out of town without knowing what the law had on him.
And Aaron aint getting around that TEXT message Lloyd sent to his sister right before he was killed BY Aaron. Money, Lies, or threats wont get Aaron around a TEXT message that told his sister he was about to be killed by ( NFL ) the way Lloyd put it.

Grulks says:
Jul 18, 2013 10:20 AM
This is what bothers me about society and specifically this case:

-AH gets arrested, and the DA slowly but surely leaks/discloses information. Most objective people believe AH is guilty of the Lloyd murder, or was heavily involved.

-Judge issues a gag order. Despite that, more and more information is leaked, and the public continues to try him in their minds.

-AH is all of a sudden tied to the double homicide from 18 months ago. Everyone is ready to string him up and hang him. Public opinion pretty much is ready to convict him in court.

-The DA is STILL looking for evidence. No trial date has been set as of yet.

Look, I think AH did it. Everyone does. But either they have enough evidence to go to trial, or they don’t. If there ISNT enough evidence to go to trial at this point, WHY THE EFF is he still in jail without bond??? Its like theyre saying: hey we think you did it, but we cant prove it yet. so were gonna hold you in jail indefinitely until we can finally find enough evidence to put you away forever.

That is NOT how the justice system is supposed to work. If he is guilty, Im all for life sentence. But this gestapo tactic of “were gonna keep you in jail until we can find enough evidence to put you away forever” is straight out of communist russia, and no one should be okay with that, for the simple reason that its a slippery slope. And once we start down that path, its not gonna be long before this happens to a lot of people NOT named Aaron Hernandez.

Just because you enough evidence for a judge to issue and arrest warrant and for a grand jury to indicte, that does not mean your case is complete and you just sit back and wait for trial. Of course they are going to continue to look for any and all evidence that may be out there. If they find it, it can only help. That does not mean they don’t have plenty of evidence to convict though…