Andrew Mathieson, he is pretty highly rated on here, but from what I have seen on tv and in the flesh, doesnt seem to have much pace at all. With the speed gun on didn't hit 130k in his second spell, and was 137k at his peak in his first. taking alot of tap so far in the one dayers also.

Originally Posted by Kippax

141 was the fastest I saw from Mathieson. His pitch map would be one of the worst in the comp; whether due to completely naive strategy or lack of control (bowling short again and again to Ryder while he camped on the back foot, etc.).

This isn't the worst compilation though for a guy in his rookie season, and I think Howsie's right that he should've never been missing out on FC experience to ****ing Hiini."At a Glance" | Andrew Mathieson - YouTube

Originally Posted by wellAlbidarned

Something looks a bit funny about his action. Seems like he gets a bit "stuck" in the crease ala Darren Sammy, there's plenty of potential for him to add a few clicks

Mathieson reminds me of a guy I know who wants to bowl fast, and as he runs in he's clearly thinking ''strength' and 'raAAAHHH!' and tenses all his muscles, holds the ball like he wants to crush it, tight core, legs and arms pumping hard but unevenly, tense forearm and shoulder, tendons popping out on his neck... and then most of the time it doesn't come out at that quick. To my mind in that clip and others, Mathieson looked quicker when has action looked looser and that helped him through the crease.

I can answer part of my own question. Williamson is an overseas player for Gloucester for 2013 according to cricinfo.

Nah Williamson isn't coming back to Glos this season. Klinger signed up for the whole season afaik. Patel is the only kiwi playing the whole season - for warwickshire again. Oram and Styris playing T20. That's it afaik.

UK County slots and NZ HP Funding

Originally Posted by Immenso

I can answer part of my own question. Williamson is an overseas player for Gloucester for 2013 according to cricinfo.

Its not helpful that there are so few Kiwi County players these days. NZC should maintain a core group of players on the UK County circuit annually. Is it the perception that N Z players are not good enough.Sadder for cricket, on the home front, is the High Performance Sport P M's Scholarship list for 2013. 333 young promising Kiwis each receiving generous funding in 2013 but not a single cricketer, not one .Very weird. Has NZC had anything to say about that ? Truckloads in athletics, hockey, netball, cycling, canoeing, rowing , triathlon and yachting. All of these rated higher than the best young eligible Kiwi cricketer.N Z reached the semi's of the ICC U 19 World Cup in 2012 so why? The perception that our cricketers are second or third rate apparently exists in N Z as well. Just ask HP Sport NZ.

Nah Williamson isn't coming back to Glos this season. Klinger signed up for the whole season afaik. Patel is the only kiwi playing the whole season - for warwickshire again. Oram and Styris playing T20. That's it afaik.

Stink.

I see Klinger averaged 19 in Sheffield Shield.
It's only one overseas pro though? Dan Cristian signed only for T20.

Any chance of NZC sneaking in someone 'free of charge' for Braces during that pre-tour period? Or has Rob Nicol's stint ruined that?

Guptill was quite successful in Windies test series after his Derby stint, he needs about 10 FC warm up matches before any test series.....

Its not helpful that there are so few Kiwi County players these days. NZC should maintain a core group of players on the UK County circuit annually. Is it the perception that N Z players are not good enough.Sadder for cricket, on the home front, is the High Performance Sport P M's Scholarship list for 2013. 333 young promising Kiwis each receiving generous funding in 2013 but not a single cricketer, not one .Very weird. Has NZC had anything to say about that ? Truckloads in athletics, hockey, netball, cycling, canoeing, rowing , triathlon and yachting. All of these rated higher than the best young eligible Kiwi cricketer.N Z reached the semi's of the ICC U 19 World Cup in 2012 so why? The perception that our cricketers are second or third rate apparently exists in N Z as well. Just ask HP Sport NZ.

It's probably because despite being the second biggest sport in the country in both popularity, media coverage and funding, NZC produces ****e results.

And the relative participation between cricket in NZ and cricket in other countries argument that gets trotted out as an excuse for losing holds no weight when it comes to who gets high performance scholarships because every sport bar rugby has a huge participation disadvantage when compared with other countries yet we do well in them.

New Zealand cricketers are the biggest underachievers in New Zealand sport when you look at what they get given to them on a plate, and they don't deserve PM scholarships because they go to the people who will actually give a return on the investment.

Last edited by Flem274*; 19-03-2013 at 12:58 AM.

Originally Posted by Bahnz

I need u like Henry Nicholls needs batting school
He was terrible in that series
I need u like Ross Taylor needed to be fit
He's way better than Henry Nicholls
And now all I can think about is your smile
and that ****** test series too
Losing to Australia sucked and I miss you

It's probably because despite being the second biggest sport in the country in both popularity, media coverage and funding, NZC produces ****e results.

And the relative participation between cricket in NZ and cricket in other countries argument that gets trotted out as an excuse for losing holds no weight when it comes to who gets high performance scholarships because every sport bar rugby has a huge participation disadvantage when compared with other countries yet we do well in them.

New Zealand cricketers are the biggest underachievers in New Zealand sport when you look at what they get given to them on a plate, and they don't deserve PM scholarships because they go to the people who will actually give a return on the investment.

And I was referring to Olympic sports, which looking at that list seems to be the main focus of the scholarships. A quick skim shows a couple of mens rugby players and that's it for the major sports. Rugby, League, cricket and football (mens') don't feature much, but there are about ten million rowers.

They're not going to invest in athletes they don't see potential in a return from, nor invest in many athletes who already have easy access to any facility they like. Cricket is in the unfortunate position where it has a track history of both sucking yet having the most resources to call upon barring rugby.

People care about the Olympics once for a two week period every 4 years, then don't give a damn in between.

Which is probably why they get the scholarships, most olympic athletes dont have much of a chance to earn a living via their sport, even the top ones for the more obscure sports. Cricket player however, if they are apply themselves are probably going to end up semi professional.