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Originally posted by AzothI think you are missing the point. It is not a matter of bragging, it's more about knowledge of the changes that operated over the years. So yes having played more games than someone else can give you a different point of view on certain things.

No one is talking about it making you play the game better.

Knowing and drawing out correct conclusion are 2 entirely different things.

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"People who keep buying these sub par mmos are responsible for holding the genre back"

I hate statements like that so much.

Even if there's a ring of truth to them? Or perhaps especially because it might be true?

Something is holding the genre back.

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Originally posted by LordZeikUnless I see some sort of degrees or other certification your opinion carries just as much weight as the next guy. Grats on playing for 20 years though! Oddly enough this genre of gaming still has a long way to go.

Congratz on being "That Guy" who replied without reading OP's post, which was two lines long.

more importantly, if there are so many of us with such extensive experience why is my screen filled with adds for kids games?

How many times are you gonna repeat yourself? we heard you the first time.

I didn't want to take the bait but i will bite. Please explain 'kids' games.

you dont know what a kids game is?

Considering the habit of posters here to exaggerate everything to sky high... nope i i do not.

I am sorry I can not help educate you on what a kids game is.

My only suggestion is to take a guess at what I mean, you seem rather intelligent to do so

Wasn't there a saying going something along the lines of "You only grow old when you stop playing games." so my rather obvious question is: Are you in denial? Or just hate a certain subset of games and categorize them as such? Because maturity isn't oozing from your posts.

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I'm not a fan of when people throw a years number out there as an attempt to lend merit to their argument. I agree with the OP on that. Unless clearly stated like that I tend to brush it off as simply throwing the number on the table, and nothing more.

I do, however, wish it was listed on the left pane under our avatars. It's useful. When I'm replying to someone who has been playing for three years I'm less likely to cite EQ as an example, or World of Warcraft, or even the first Guild Wars. There's no point in citing examples that person isn't as likely to understand as more recent ones. In a very subjective debate, like opinions on MMOs, our opinions serve as the crutches to most of our points. We have population, subscriber, and longevity data.. but not a lot of other concrete figures to work with. Only our personal experiences.

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Even if there's a ring of truth to them? Or perhaps especially because it might be true?

Something is holding the genre back.

WHo decides this? that's the problem with such statements.

your right!

the only problem with you being right is that we are still stuck with the same games

I don't disagree, these aren't the games I'd like to see, I just don't let that guide me into saying my choice is better. For some it obviously isn't, the way I look at it is, the same way as any other medium, I'm a dinosaur at this point as far as taste is concerned.

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