re: 300 Billion Raise to Defense SpendingPosted by Machine on 2/9/18 at 11:01 am to narddogg81

quote:how demented do you have to be to call defense spending, one of the few things that is actually the constitutional role of the federal government, welfare. Also, simply taxing our corporations at the same rate as literally every other developed country in the world instead of at twice the rate is corporate welfare? Seriously, be patriotic and kill yourself. You are useless

just because it has a constitutional role, doesn't mean you should continually throw more and more money at it. no reason to spend as much as we do on defense.

quote:Welfare is for people who sit on their arse providing NO SERVICE or BENEFIT for this country. It is to take care of those who REFUSE to take care of themselves.

Wrong. Most welfare goes to people who work, but the pay isn't enough. USDA rural housing service has a budget that is mind-boggling and it is for the working poor. Most food subsidy are going to people who work. You have a flawed perception of this basic social service.

and theyll channel hundreds of millions back to the senators and congressmen, who will then give even more to the contractors, who will then give even more back to the senators and congressmen, who will then give even more....

quote:how demented do you have to be to call defense spending, one of the few things that is actually the constitutional role of the federal government, welfare.

It is the governments role to provide a military, yes. But nothing in the Constitution says that it has to be as large at it is. To basically support an entire industry that has grown around it and always, always expands (like the gov!).

re: 300 Billion Raise to Defense SpendingPosted by mofungoo on 2/9/18 at 5:10 pm to Machine

quote:when your military is already the size of the next 10 largest already, increasing spending is 100% welfare

We have to maintain the equipment we already have, sport. We also have to modernize our armed forces. For example, our B-52 crews are about half the age of the aircraft that they are flying. A strong military is an essential deterrent, but don't worry so much about wasteful spending. Wasteful spending was a talking point for Trump during the election campaign. He got this.