Loren, we try to keep it lite but sometimes the feelings boil over for some reason. The diehard IH people find it hard to take that IH would now be defunct it Tenneco had not rescued them. We both lived thru the transition and the IH people like to refer to it as a merger, which it was not! The Ag line became Case IH and the trucks went to Navistar. Case did get a line of equipment that it was lacking and I am sure the Magnum was basically a IH design but if not for Tenneco it may have never seen the light of day. Case engines traditionally have been know for their low rpm, big bore design and were some of the best ever built, with excellent fuel ecomony. mEl

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