My great grand mother Maria D'astro Married Giacomo Maisano in Santa Margherita Messina he died in New york around 1904 and Maria married Stephano Providenti around 1907 He came from a family of ship builders in Messina.. I cannot find him Coming to the to USA They lived in New York.. If someone could look and see if the can find the ship he came on it would really help. Margaret

This is might be him. The only catch is – if you look at the following link to the original passenger list it states he is married? It might be a mis-entry though. It looks like he was going to visit his nephew but I can’t read the name.

AngelaGrace56 wrote:This is might be him. The only catch is – if you look at the following link to the original passenger list it states he is married? It might be a mis-entry though. It looks like he was going to visit his nephew but I can’t read the name.

Hello The last one is correct. They were living together with daughter and son in law Torre. My mother was Margaret Torre. I don't know about the others. I think they are diffferent Providenti. what do you think?

AngelaGrace56 wrote:This is might be him. The only catch is – if you look at the following link to the original passenger list it states he is married? It might be a mis-entry though. It looks like he was going to visit his nephew but I can’t read the name.

marymary52 wrote:Hello The last one is correct. They were living together with daughter and son in law Torre. My mother was Margaret Torre. I don't know about the others. I think they are diffferent Providenti. what do you think?

Hi Margaret

I personally believe that all the information supplied here pertains to your family. The ages certainly stack up. I know that there are discrepancies but I think they are basically because of human error which seems to happen a lot. Things get lost in translation as well. The 1910 Census which states Stefano's immigration year as 1892 is probably a typo. I don't have access to Ancestry.com. It would be interesting to see the original Census form. It would be interesting to know whether Stefano was in fact married before? I am actually out for the rest of the day today and will come back to the forum if I think of anything else tomorrow. I hope this helps.

With Stefano’s entry which definitely says 1892 it almost looks like they have rubbed something out and written 1892 over the top? Maybe they had previously written down 1902 and changed it to 1892 for whatever reason. Who knows? But yes, definitely the same family unit.

marymary52 wrote:I have ancestry.com but I didn't see his name. Should I try the different spellings on this page?

Yes, that should work. You have to be a bit lateral in your thinking when researching information that has been indexed because there are so many mistakes made. I guess this is understandable as the data entry person can only work with what they have in front of them and if they are not familiar with the language and the script is not clear then there are bound to be errors. It would be great if Ancestry.com could invest some money in proofing/editing as it would be so much easier for people to research.

Here's the 1930 Census. The original should be on Ancestry.com. Can you please post the link when you find it and get a minute. Who was Carmela Amato? She suddenly appeared on the last two census records.

child: Joseph Maisanoother: Mary Providenti, Carmela AmatoName Stephen ProvidentiTitles and Terms Event Type CensusEvent Year 1930Event Place Brooklyn (Districts 1001-1250), Kings, New York, United StatesDistrict 1084Gender MaleAge 61Marital Status MarriedRace WhiteRace (Original) WhiteRelationship to Head of Household HeadRelationship to Head of Household (Original) HeadBirth Year (Estimated) 1869Birthplace ItalyImmigration Year 1902Father's Birthplace ItalyMother's Birthplace ItalySheet Number and Letter 11BHousehold ID 186Line Number 82Affiliate Name The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)Affiliate Publication Number T626Affiliate Film Number 1507GS Film number 2341242Digital Folder Number 004638797

Carmela Amato 17 was a Niece? that all I know, I think her sister was living with my Maria D'astro, Maisano, Providenti sister, jennie D'astro Ruggieri Carmela's sister( I think Sister) was Jennie Amato 23. I don't know why they were not living with their parents. I see a death for a Carmela Amato Cormagi around 1930-35 I am not on the site right now and don't remember the date. I am going to order the marriage cert. There is more than one Carmale Amato getting married, but I think this is the right one . ( Kings NY) Amato and Cormagi.

marymary52 wrote:Carmela Amato 17 was a Niece? that all I know, I think her sister was living with my Maria D'astro, Maisano, Providenti sister, jennie D'astro Ruggieri Carmela's sister( I think Sister) was Jennie Amato 23. I don't know why they were not living with their parents. I see a death for a Carmela Amato Cormagi around 1930-35 I am not on the site right now and don't remember the date. I am going to order the marriage cert. There is more than one Carmale Amato getting married, but I think this is the right one . ( Kings NY) Amato and Cormagi.

(Unless she was a niece of Giacomo Maisano and married a Daniel Amato? Just something to consider. In the 1925 Census Carmela was recorded as Carmela Masano aged 13 (estimated birth 1912) and then in the 1930 census, I am assuming it is the same Carmela she is Carmela Amato aged 17 (estimated birth 1913), is that right? (I haven’t actually seen the original 1930 Census but I am understanding from you that she was aged 17.) In the 1940 census there is a Carmela Amato aged 28 (estimated birth 1912)? Maybe just something for you to investigate a little further . I might be quite wrong on this one. I am always open to correction. I know she was very young to be married.)

1940 Census: spouse: Daniel Amatochild: Edward AmatoName Carmela AmatoTitles and Terms Event Type CensusEvent Date 1940Event Place Assembly District 1, Brooklyn, New York City, Kings, New York, United StatesGender FemaleAge 28Marital Status MarriedRace (Original) WhiteRace WhiteRelationship to Head of Household (Original) WifeRelationship to Head of Household WifeBirthplace New YorkBirth Year (Estimated) 1912Last Place of Residence Same HouseDistrict 24-53Family Number 118Sheet Number and Letter 4ALine Number 4Affiliate Publication Number T627Affiliate Film Number 2548Digital Folder Number 005458215