That video is pretty much how I feel about motion controls. They're a gimmick to me. I'm not a casual gamer so all this casual crap Microsoft is putting into the 360 is useless because they aren't doing anything for their core/hardcore audience.

I'm not much of a wii fan, good start for an idea but really terrible execution, and it seems nobody plays these games for more than a week and then only once a month. So I really don't understand why anyone at all would be excited about move, it's wii hd without any games. At least kinect is technologically interesting and has a lot of creative potential.

I didn't felt bad about the nintendo stuff , because we played the shit out of GCN and N64 , i was younger and we were always having parties and birthdays so we were playing starfoxes fzeros and smashbros , but why everybody think Wii is a dust collector , is simple , you're grown up , you don't have these parties all the time in the house , and a lot of people taken their roots in schools and ways and you get to know new friends ... that's basically the thing. You get to do a lot of stuff , so you're not at home always right , so that's what it is for me , and i don't feel bad about it , still , SOMETIMEs happens that we get to play togater but rarely, but i still have save data and all the records , how many hours i played consoles , it's easily more than any other game but more you grow up less you play that's normal.

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I didn't mean "Dust-Collector" as a bad thing. I agree with you in most parts. I still own a working (though the looks are a little damaged) N64, NGC, and the Wii. My dad (yes, my dad, who's 52 years old) owns the PS2 and 3.

I think that the XBox and the PS3 are trying to compete with the PC, since thier strategy is to go to hardware & looks. That's not good at all, since the consoles stay in the market for 5+ years, while new PC hardware comes out every month or so, it's just impossible to keep up.

Nintendo, however, goes for the "Fun-Factor". The games are not the best looking games ever, but they are fun to play and are very elaborated. I'm not saying that the XBox and PSs don't have/had games that were fun. I'm saying that they are oriented at visuals more than gameplay.

What really saddens me though, is the fact that the PC is the one that innovates in hardware but gets all those horrible-made ports...

The Move is simply FANTASTIC! I've never played a single game with my family till now. We all love it and we all enjoy it and thing just works!

Super accurate! Like when playing Pong you can actually move up to the net and spike it hard or move back and save a ball! ITA JUST AMAZING!

I was going to get Ruse on the PC but SCREW THAT! I'm playing it using MOVE! HAHA! You've never seen motion control like this at home trust me Wii ain't got crap on this, just wait for a killer library and A PS3 Fit to come out and this this will be platinum for sure. Man my PS3 was dormant but now with the JailBreak and move I haven't touched my PC to play games, thats just not like me at all. Can't wait for steam to come out on PS3 man Sony is doing wonders.

I'm not much of a wii fan, good start for an idea but really terrible execution, and it seems nobody plays these games for more than a week and then only once a month. So I really don't understand why anyone at all would be excited about move, it's wii hd without any games. At least kinect is technologically interesting and has a lot of creative potential.

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Why you think so, I am playin it every day since i bought my PS move.I got tiger woods pga 11 and it plays awsome with move.and RE5 same way and there will be loads of other games in future not only casual games like mostly sport games but action games aswell.SO its only a matter of time when move will kick gamepad in a**

Why you think so, I am playin it every day since i bought my PS move.I got tiger woods pga 11 and it plays awsome with move.and RE5 same way and there will be loads of other games in future not only casual games like mostly sport games but action games aswell.SO its only a matter of time when move will kick gamepad in a**

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I feel the same way but I won't go as far as to say it will replace it.

The Move has only just come out, so of course the Wii has the larger games library One thing the PS3 can offer over the Wii, is graphics quality. When the game devs start using the Move technology for 'real' gaming, ie Killzone 3, Wii owners will realise that they have nothing more than a GameCube 2.0

Im a big 360 fan, but I cant even see Kinect topping Move.

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Motion controllers will never be for real gaming. And 90% of everyone I know tires of Wii, not because of the graphics, but because motion control games are nothing more than gimmicks, and stop being fun after a while. Not to mention, most everyone I know feel it kinda defeats the purpose of video gaming to be swinging crap around like an idiot.

My Wii is essentially just an emulator now. I'll never even consider buying Move, ever.

Motion controllers will never be for real gaming. And 90% of everyone I know tires of Wii, not because of the graphics, but because motion control games are nothing more than gimmicks, and stop being fun after a while. Not to mention, most everyone I know feel it kinda defeats the purpose of video gaming to be swinging crap around like an idiot.

My Wii is essentially just an emulator now. I'll never even consider buying Move, ever.

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In shooting games I would consider move as a mouse that lucks in ps3 so its faster to aim and more accurate than with gamepad I think

Anyone that likes to play video games, is a 'gamer' No matter what platform you play them on. The fact that consoles have a bigger games catalogue than the PC is what draws me to them. Yeah, I enjoy FPS titles on the PC, but thats where it starts and ends really. I like having the option to play anything ie Halo Reach, Dead Rising 2, God of War III, Heavy Rain.....not just FPS or RTS titles

Nope. There are wannabe gamers, and real gamers. Real gamers use a PC and only use consoles for sports and exclusives.

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LOL, thats ridiculous. Surely, to be an hardcore gamer, it depends on the amount of time you spend playing games and the number of titles you play or have played.

I would still class someone that plays a NES all day as a gamer. Its not about what platform you use, its about dedication.

So, because I dont PC game anymore, Im not a gamer? Ive had pretty much every console since the Atari and have also owned good gaming rigs. I would hate to think how many games Ive played in my lifetime. Ive seen both worlds, console gaming and PC gaming, but just because I now prefer to use a console for gaming, it doesnt mean Im no longer a gamer!

What your saying just feeds the statement about PC gamers being arrogant and elitest.

Saying "your only a gamer if you use a PC!", is like saying "your not a driver if you dont have a Ferrari!", its called bullshit!

Nope. There are wannabe gamers, and real gamers. Real gamers use a PC and only use consoles for sports and exclusives.

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I only use my consoles for friends fam and exclusives. But not sure I'd go so far as to call non PC gamers wannabes.

Anyway camera motion sensors will always be superior and all, but it really depends on the games. Killzone 3 so far is looking good, and with the move capability its looking pretty tall with eliminating the gamepad disadvantage with aiming.