When did he tear his labrum? I'm sure the Hawks would have found that out when they traded for him, or before OTA's/Minicamp. Which means it happened (undetected) in OTA's, or sometime in the last 6 weeks before TC?

Great questions and I hope someone in the Seattle media has the ballz to press hard enough to get that answered.

Vikings look like geniuses..... just like when they stole Hutchinson from Seattle, and gave Seattle Nate Burleson and Tarvarris Jackson.

Nate Burleson was a good player in Seattle. Well worth the pick we had to give up for him.

Tarvaris was signed as a free agent, traded, then re-signed. Not sure how this makes the Vikings smart in any way, since they were the team that traded 2 3rd rounders to move into the 2nd round and draft a player projected to go in the 6th.

Nate Burleson was a good player in Seattle. Well worth the pick we had to give up for him.

Tarvaris was signed as a free agent, traded, then re-signed. Not sure how this makes the Vikings smart in any way, since they were the team that traded 2 3rd rounders to move into the 2nd round and draft a player projected to go in the 6th.

Lotta recent history between these 2 teams no?

Also between the Vikings and Packers as well, with them going after anyone they can from Green Bay.

When did he tear his labrum? I'm sure the Hawks would have found that out when they traded for him, or before OTA's/Minicamp. Which means it happened (undetected) in OTA's, or sometime in the last 6 weeks before TC?

He participated and looked great in their OTAs. Read somewhere (cant find link atm) that he suffered the injury a few days before the start of TC. I assume it must have happend during his own training program.

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4. Namdi - I just believe Philly was a horrible fit for him. I not only believe the scheme was terrible for him, but also that he just never really jived with the city or the team. Hes coming back to the bay area where he went to college and had his best years as a pro and is extremely involved in the community and will also be playing in a scheme that better suits him. I expect a revival. If you want to write off a guy who was a true shutdown corner for about 5 years because he had a couple bad years with a new team, go ahead. But hes still young enough and I watched how great he was with the Raiders and expect big things from him.

lolololol. Nnamdi is complete garbage at this point.

Say what you want to say about the Eagles, but Nnamdi is toast as a player regardless of system. He has NO speed whatsoever anymore, and the second a WR beats his press-man coverage, he gives up a TD.

And to boot, he's a terrible teammate who has never played on a winning team in his life. He has a loser's attitude - he blames everyone around him for things he does wrong and refuses to take responsibility for any mess-ups in coverage.

Say what you want to say about the Eagles, but Nnamdi is toast as a player regardless of system. He has NO speed whatsoever anymore, and the second a WR beats his press-man coverage, he gives up a TD.

And to boot, he's a terrible teammate who has never played on a winning team in his life. He has a loser's attitude - he blames everyone around him for things he does wrong and refuses to take responsibility for any mess-ups in coverage.

well, since you say so, and I have so much respect for you, OK.

theres some questions about whether or not he will be able to regain form, but your assessment is ridiculous. at 32, he has lost everything despite not having any injuries to speak of? and the bad teammate thing? he didnt fit in in philly but his reputation as a teammate and community leader in oakland was stellar.

Nmandi can't even play safety. He's an awful tackler, and he can't play off coverage at all. And he lacks hips which is why he likes playing exclusively on one side of the field.

Nmandi simply isn't very good, and even during his prime years was overrated bc Oakland was just that bad. Why throw to Nmandi when you can throw somewhere else? Plus why line up your #1 against Nmandi when he only plays one side of the field? Plus what quarterbacks did he even play? Plus how is everyone so sure he was so good when all their games were blacked out during his prime?

the same guy who won the nfl man of the year award is a terrible teammate?

Being a philanthropist outside of the NFL doesn't make him a good teammate.

There are plenty of "nice guys" in the world who are losers in any kind of competitive setting.

Nnamdi is one of these guys who is sensitive, introspective, and kind - all qualities which completely alienate other Pro Football players. And because he is wealthy and cosmopolitan, he feels "above" the sport itself.

Being a philanthropist outside of the NFL doesn't make him a good teammate.

There are plenty of "nice guys" in the world who are losers in any kind of competitive setting.

Nnamdi is one of these guys who is sensitive, introspective, and kind - all qualities which completely alienate other Pro Football players. And because he is wealthy and cosmopolitan, he feels "above" the sport itself.

Being a philanthropist outside of the NFL doesn't make him a good teammate.

There are plenty of "nice guys" in the world who are losers in any kind of competitive setting.

Nnamdi is one of these guys who is sensitive, introspective, and kind - all qualities which completely alienate other Pro Football players. And because he is wealthy and cosmopolitan, he feels "above" the sport itself.

Yup, I can confirm that. I'm a super nice guy and a serious jackass when it comes to competition. My grandmother won't even play chinese checkers with me anymore, because I'm a jerk if I either win or lose.

Yup, I can confirm that. I'm a super nice guy and a serious jackass when it comes to competition. My grandmother won't even play chinese checkers with me anymore, because I'm a jerk if I either win or lose.

I don't know whether or not Nnamdi is one of those guys.

I had to learn how to not do that, especially playing pick up sports with the neighborhood kids, being a bigger kid who was always strong playing against me for fun really sucked when I couldn't switch into having fun mode instead of must win mode.

Still can't do it with most board games, especially if dice are involved. And unfortunately no one I've ever hung out with has been good enough at chess for me not to be a little bit of a dick about how I just take them apart carefully, patiently and completely.

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Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.

Harvin is new. When our offense was humming in the second half we had Wilson, our running game, Zach Miller stepping up, and a good receiving trio for some timely big plays. We aren't filling his shoes like the Niners have to do for Crabtree.

With that said, a lot of the stuff they were implementing for Harvin, Golden Tate is running. Things like Jet Sweeps, triple option looks, bubbles, quick screens, and slot work.