ironrod prime wrote:true but most transformers have thier own toys devcon has yet to recieve one untill that time he (in my mind atleast) has no credibilaty of existance

So, as of right now, according to you...Dark of the Moon characters Que, Brains, and Soundwave Animated characters Scrapper, Mixmaster, Dirt Boss, The Seekers, Waspinator, omega Supreme, and many, many othersAs well as all Prime characters Knock Out, Breakdown, Airachnid, Skyquake, Makeshift, The TerrorconsG1 and Prime Unicron... Don't exist?

ironrod prime wrote:true but most transformers have thier own toys devcon has yet to recieve one untill that time he (in my mind atleast) has no credibilaty of existance

So, as of right now, according to you...Dark of the Moon characters Que, Brains, and Soundwave Animated characters Scrapper, Mixmaster, Dirt Boss, The Seekers, Waspinator, omega Supreme, and many, many othersAs well as all Prime characters Knock Out, Breakdown, Airachnid, Skyquake, Makeshift, The TerrorconsG1 and Prime Unicron... Don't exist?

id like to point out that

soundwave has gotten two figures already and gue will be getting one just not in the u.s.

sunstorm, skywarp, thundercraker, and waspinator have also gotten figures

theres already a terorcon figure and we've already seen evidence that there will be a knockout, breakdown, and arachnid figure at some point

ironrod prime wrote:theres already a terorcon figure and we've already seen evidence that there will be a knockout, breakdown, and arachnid figure at some point

1. No there is not a terrorcon figure2. Just because we've seen evidence doesn't mean there will be. We saw evidence for several FE toys that never came to pass3. We have seen no evidence of a Breakdown

true but most transformers have thier own toys devcon has yet to recieve one untill that time he (in my mind atleast) has no credibilaty of existance

We were NEVER talking about the toys. It was always and only about the ficitional characters. The toys are superfluous to this discussion.

Wing Saber wrote:So, as of right now, according to you...Dark of the Moon characters Que, Brains, and Soundwave Animated characters Scrapper, Mixmaster, Dirt Boss, The Seekers, Waspinator, omega Supreme, and many, many othersAs well as all Prime characters Knock Out, Breakdown, Airachnid, Skyquake, Makeshift, The TerrorconsG1 and Prime Unicron... Don't exist?

DOTM Autobot Que had a Deluxe toy released in Japan, and will have a Movie Trilogy Deluxe toy released in Asia.

DOTM Soundwave is the exact same peron as ROTF Soundwave, who had several toys. And, he had two DOTM cyberverse toys in the U.S., a DOTM Deluxe toy in Japan, a DOTM Human Alliance toy in Japan, and will have a Movie Trilogy Deluxe toy in Asia.

Animated Sunstorm had a Target exclusive Voyager release in a two-pack with Activators Ratchet in the U.S. Animated Skywarp had a Voyager toy in the U.S. Animated Thundercraker had an Activators toy in the U.S. Animated Dirge had an Activators toy in the U.S. Animated Ramjet had an Activator toy in Japan. And all every Seeker (minus Slipstream, Dirge, Thrust, #3370318, and #2716057) had an EZ Collection (Legends Class) figure in Japan.

Prime Knock Out and Airachnid are getting Deluxe toys. Prime Breakdown is getting a Cyberverse Legion toy. And Prime Skyquake is getting a Voyager toy.

G1 and Prime Unicron are the same guys as Unicron Trilogy/Universe/2010 Unicron. G1 Unicron had two prototypes, one of which has been shown on display at BotCon 2009.

ironrod prime wrote:theres already a terorcon figure

No there isn't.

Wing Saber wrote:I said Dark of the Moon, not Revenge of the Fallen

Does that matter? They're the same guy.

Wing Saber wrote:1. No there is not a terrorcon figure

Terrorcon Cliffjumper. Japan is getting him.

Wing Saber wrote:2. Just because we've seen evidence doesn't mean there will be. We saw evidence for several FE toys that never came to pass

All FE figure minus Terrorcon Cliffjumper have had in hand images and video reviews shown on this site.

Wing Saber wrote:3. We have seen no evidence of a Breakdown

Did you not see the Toy Fair news that was posted by Perceptor? He took pictures of Cyberverse Breakdown.

Wing Saber wrote:None of those were released

Every single one of those (minus Fugitive Waspinator and Thundercracker) has been released or will be released.

Though, with Thundercracker, some video reviewer people (like GenZhao and Peaugh) got their hands on some factory variants of the figure that were made before the figure's release was canceled.

ironrod prime wrote:i saw ha soundwave at target

You must be mistaken, as its U.S. release was canceled.

ironrod prime wrote:thundercracker can still be found on any online toy shop

Now, this you need to prove. I just did a Google Shopping searc hand an eBay search, an the only ones available for him are the Activators figure.

ironrod prime wrote:wasp wasnt relesed (thats one point for you) but you can bet sombody somwhere was able to get one

His figure wasn't completed.

ironrod prime wrote:vehicon was released evident by the fact that optibottomus, peuagh, fxfrans, baltmatrix, and others have reviewd him on youtube

All theirs are the Japanese version, but yes, Vehicon was released there.

ironrod prime wrote:(seriousley dude your makin yourself look bad)

Watch it, man. You didn't get all the facts right, either.

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