Joz wrote:They certainly weren't there. I did pick up some DM hats, though.

I think I saw you there on the final day. Were you following the lead card?

And yeah, I didn't see any either, but I wasn't necessarily looking. I bet they held off on releasing them to give the C FD a little time in the limelight. I'll be waiting on these like a hawk. I've been needing to buy up a stack so I can work on putting routines. D-lines are hit-or-miss in terms of stiffness and feel. I have one good 170 D-line that's money, and a 172 that's too waxy.

The plastic is different from the protos. Definitely KC Pro, where the protos were more Yeti pro. This post will focus on me comparing the two runs of KC P2s.

The profile is different as well. The stock KCs are what I consider the better putting P2 mold. The wing is flat, where the protos were concave. They are similar in shape to the DGR D-P2s from last year which I liked. I've seen stock colors in white, orange, red and yellow.

The flight is similar to the d-P2s. They have less low speed "dump" than the protos. Basically putts like a good P2 but in KC plastic. Oh and the stock run doesn't get all bouncy like the protos when they hit the chains

I fondled a production P P2 at the store yesterday and it is stiffer than the softest tackiest KC Aviars i've felt and softer than the stiffest run of KC Aviars so it is somewhat slick. That is why i didn't get any for this cold weather. Possibly next summer. It is not a suitable all year round disc for my slick dry skin.

Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.

Maybe when it is warm but which KC i've felt porcelain plate, the kind P P2 is made of and softer tackier plastic? In cooler weather i suspect the P P2 will become slick. In the summer it should be fine.

Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.