Posted May 20, 2015

Unfortunately things aren’t always sugary sweet in the sugar world. In fact, it can get downright salty. How you handle the not-so-good catches, and signs to look out for pose half the battle.

Let’s break down the salt. A Salt Daddy fancies himself as a Sugar Daddy, yet there’s nothing truly sweet about him. Salty Daddies make false promises, are anything but a gentleman, and are far from truly seeking a relationship that is mutually beneficial.

There are generally two kinds of “salt” that you may encounter when wading through potential Sugar Daddies: The Rookie and Mr. Bitter

The Rookie

The first type is new to the Sugar Bowl and still learning how to navigate the waters with plenty of trial and error. He will typically meet you once and then completely disappears. Prepare to be stood up hours before you get the chance to meet.

And don’t get me started on allowance — you’re in for a new level of awkward! In general, this type is generally harmless and unintentionally salty. He’s still acclimating himself to the Sugar world.

Mr. Bitter

The other type is far from naive, and all bitter. You will need to hydrate after handling this breed! They know the ins-and-outs of the Sugar lifestyle and work the system for their own personal gain. This type will blatantly disregard the mutually beneficial aspect of the relationship, and will leave you feeling as if they’re all-in for themselves. Avoid these Salt Daddies at all costs — there is nothing sweet about them!

Don’t let these descriptions deter you. We’ve included a few pointers for handling the salty variety.

What To Look For

Over-the-Top Promises You know when things are too good to be true. Don’t mistake a sweet tooth for a toothache.

Too Strong Too SoonBringing up more intimate aspects of the relationship too early in the conversation is a red flag. Asking for nudes before you even meet is no gentleman, that’s straight salt.

Demanding IntimacyAs with any relationship, intimacy grows and develops with time. If at some point in the relationship a Sugar Daddy starts demanding intimacy, it’s time to seek something far less salty.

Preventing A Heap of Salt

Settle BeforehandHave your allowance arranged in advance. Avoid being greedy– but don’t act foolish and waste your time either. Time is money.

Stay SweetAlways be sweet in any situation. It’s contagious and can sometimes turn even the saltiest attitude around. Even if he’s not behaving like a gentleman, you should always carry yourself as a lady.

Don’t RushLike any relationship, feel things out first to prevent rushing into a potentially dangerous situation. Your safety should be your own number one concern.

A discussion about discussion

We’re trying some new things out on the blog, most notably the temporary switch to Disqus. The task of creating and integrating a forum for the community is underway. In the meantime we’d like your feedback: keep the original blog comments or keep Disqus?

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2,531 Responses to “Sorting the Salt from the Sugar”

Wtfsays:

Watch out for an Asian guy from NY!!! Saltiest idiot ever!! Got scammed by him, he was all nice telling me he will spoil me and searches for “one girl” only, fat liar. He also mentioned that he will invest in my future if he likes me. In fact I met him, in the first hour where we met he forced me to have sexual intercourse with me. He got me drunk also and I gave him oral without a condom…I am not sure if I have STDs now, I am hella scared!! I can’t tell my parents nor can I go make a blood test…At the end of the meet Watch out for an Asian guy from NY!!! Saltiest idiot ever!! Got scammed by him, he was all nice telling me he will spoil me and searches for “one girl” only, fat liar. He also mentioned that he will invest in my future if he likes me. In fact I met him, in the first hour where we met he forced me to have sexual intercourse with me. He got me drunk also and I gave him oral without a condom…I am not sure if I have STDs now, I am hella scared!! I can’t tell my parents nor can I go make a blood test…I got about 100 dollars (!!!!!!!) from him!! I will NEVER meet anyone from this site anymore, SO much scam.

I would really love to join… I’m fun…sexy… and I love life.

Only salt😭says:

I met a “DR” on here once and I drove an hour to meet him for dinner. He was super charming, smart, and funny. I thought oh wow this is great. How lucky could a girl be? He wanted to see me again the next day for lunch. Great!
This was a two hour round trip drive and when I went to leave I thought for sure he would offer me gas money at least.
Nope!
The next day the same thing . We had lunch. He seemed very interested in me by paying me compliments, but again no gas money.
I thought back on it and revealed a few things to my self that I hadn’t noticed at the time.
We went into a boat supply store and he was scanning prices for the cheapest rope for his boat. 😱
Also, he never mentioned what type of arrangement he was even looking for.
The following day I mentioned the gas issue (was I wrong to?) and never heard from him again.
It just seemed like a couple of dinner dates with Joe Shmoe.

Looking for the sweet lovable guy have a lot of love to give

alexisjjsays:

Its not easy finding a SD….. :/

Hellyiasays:

Well, after 2 years of being here (interrupted by few or long breaks) I still have not gone beyond messaging …
Why? Apart from my country which is far behind the concept, the only contacts have merely ask for my “tariffs” … Yes, almost every corner of my SD search a cheap prostitute … I had engaging a contact, but when I was short a couple, he is away. However, he was married …

In short, no SD until then contacted me to have “simply” commit a mutual relationship, and even why not get in touch if the heart tells us …

@Nikomis, if a guy asked for “test drive” or nake pics, he is absolutely nuts !

I do get requests from those weird guys and I just ignore them.

@Jaybird – re:your question about salty sugardaddies.
Yes, in fact I recently was contacted by one “gentleman” who was interested in an arrangement, finally offered me a wonderful allowance in return for a situation where I would see him one or 2 times a week. HOWEVER, things went from sugar to salt when he added he wouldn’t give me anything until I “auditioned” first. (And he meant put out) Not only was I to have sex before he would consider me a SB & earn an allowance, but he demanded I sugar up & service a friend of his (and let him audition me) before he would even meet with me. Now, he has stopped contacting me all together. It’s so frustrating when you think you find what you are looking for only to be either scammed or ignored.

Thank SA for posting this article. I should have read this article 3 months ago! So far, all I got was salt. All types of salt! Where can I get the real sugar???

Goddesssays:

Happy this discussion was made. I am distractng myself from my laptop losing hours of work by posting, haha. This should be a sticky in my opinion. I think it’s a great way to promote healthy sugar relationships and help newbies on both sides find what they are seeking without getting jaded by the process.
To be honest ladies, I recommend borrowing cash somewhere to go to one of these parties/events.
I went to a party at a high end hotel this past weekend and the hotel manager asked me for my #. This guy flies to Chicago twice a week just to get his eyebrows done and well… he’s extremely hot. So yea, get out there and meet people and use the site to navigate the events. Also Nichole, grammar is overrated. I know a doc on this site who texts me like “u r a qt”, LOL.

Hototrotsays:

I had a woman and husband contact me throught SA. The wife- not bad looking- was the one who wrote the message. She was really eloquent and sounded sincere. No salt to be found. Too bad I’m not bi or try.

I want to know who @Daddy Dom is. He followed me on Disqus (which btw I’m gonna delete later today) and I never talked to him. I think he might be ss1959 though.

CucumberOnLidssays:

Here’s something odd. Ok so there’s a SD that sent me a wink on WYP. Now I never know what to send as an offer there because honestly if you’re too low then once they unlock the date most guys are super creepy. If you send over an offer that they feel is too high it’s like you’ve insulted them. So this one pot sent over a wink and I sent over an offer. He declined so I winked at him. He responds with ” not interested”. I’m think well what the hell? What a childish response.

Now obviously I’m on SA. Why does the guy add me to his favorites ?

In other news the HerpesII Breeder found me here! Nooooooo. He just favorited my profile this morning and asked for pictures. Funny he was in North Hollywood on one site and now here on SA he’s in Sherman Oaks. Creepy McCreeperson. I blocked him so fast I worried about breaking my keyboard.

Another WYP member sent me an offer of $65 but his profile clearly states ” Please don’t reject my offer even if it appears low”. ” I’m seeking a mutually beneficial arrangement etc etc.

So I thought ok sure! He’s local, petite body type, well dressed etc. He responds to one message and then goes radio silent for a month. I messaged him a few more times but all he does is read my messages. He has recently favorited me here.

People having multiply accounts even on SA to look for differnt type of arrangement + one to spy if their actual SB on-line or not :))))))))

OnlineNewbieSDsays:

I talked with a past pot recently (seems to be the time to try to rekindle things, since there have been three within the last week!)…she was out at a bar local to her and met a guy, clicked with him and decided to see where it led…she had mentioned not “sugar” but some financial issues she was encountering with her ex-baby-dady…the guy started treating her like crap, calling her names like boo-boo (reference to low-brow Honey Boo Boo), making fun of her feet (she admittedly needs a pedi, but see mentions of financial issues above)…she had a friend that knew she had been on SA and helped the friend register with a profile…as soon as she logged in, guess what profile was on the home screen for her friend? YUP, the guy she was “dating”…she confronted him about his profile language and her mentioned financial issues…

I told her, if a guy can get it free, he isn’t going to sugar it – unless ALL HE DOES IS SUGAR…since she met him IRL, that’s OUTSIDE his sugar life…

I see WYP as similar…it’s two different parts of his life…if he’s paying for a date, he’s not really looking for the on-going arrangement…now…maybe he uses it as a gateway to discussing on-going, but I doubt it.

The guy wasn’t interested enough in you to pay a certain price point.

I see noting illogical about his action.

In fact, it was very rational.

RussianSBsays:

Dear, it called on-line dating. Maybe 1 in 100 is real, treat it as such. Don’t analise this. Add to this guys who try to use girls there as free escorts with false promices etc. Because real escorts probably will not answer hundred of sick letters etc. Today one guy laugh at me when I answer ” not, I am not doing ANYTHING in bed”, so what ? Where else all that creepies will go with all that sick letters ? To dating site – can be declared to police. To escort sites – nobody will unswer them. SA is last resort for someone, be kind :)))))))))

I do. A hazel green, a bit of blue and gold.

I think my private photos have a good eye pic. I took my publics down for now.

Green eyes are nice.

StruggleIsRealsays:

Uuuugh Last night, after a wonderful day, I happily drifted to sleep to GB singing softly to me. Then I was suddenly awoken at 3am by a violent urge to vomit and have hardly been able to leave the toilet since. I literally just curled up and slept on the bathroom floor because I was having to up-chuck so much. I still can’t hold anything down, dry-heaving like crazy my throat is killing me, and I’m exhausted from being up all night. Safe to say I caught the stomach virus from him. Watch out friends! Wash your hands and stuff. This is NOT fun.

Wait you have the stomach flu at the same time? Gawd I’d want to die. I mean really ask for someone to make it quick. I couldn’t do both. One is horrible enough.

StruggleIsRealsays:

Yes double whammy! No kidding! And GB is just getting over his bout with it. We are one mopey household. LoL! I am in bed and doing absolutely nothing (other than keeping tabs on my nausea so not to make a mess. So far, so good.). I’ve just started sipping some ginger ale… Fingers crossed it stays down. Doubtful though. Oy.

Lady Sagesays:

Rest honey. You have to stay hydrated! I hope you feel better soon. Damn flawed human design. We are a mess of a species.

StruggleIsRealsays:

Thank you! Yes it has been tough staying hydrated because every time I drink anything it just comes right back up. But GB is out getting me some ginger ale and pedialyte now.

My mom did make me laugh though when I told her. She said every time someone mentions the stomach flu, she thinks of that line in the Devil Wears Prada– “I’m one stomach flu away from my goal weight.” Hahaha

CucumberOnLidssays:

Hmm sure it’s the virus or is it time for an Error Proof Test?

KeKesays:

Lol

CucumberOnLidssays:

One pot has me favorited but his entire profile is in all caps. When he contacted me I told him I read his profile in a booming voice similar to Gandalf’s “Thou shalt not pass!” . Apparently he didn’t get my humor so no response. Ooh well. lol

StruggleIsRealsays:

LoL!

Jaybird923says:

haha The person who gets your humor and responds back is the one for you. I’ve had that happen a couple of times. It’s either they’re to dim to understand the joke or they have no sense of humor because I know I’m funny.

I actually clicked through to one that said 3 days on the profile page, but was “online” in the search results…not good!

StruggleIsRealsays:

Yeah I wondered about that “online” status before. Hm

FunDude718says:

Likely due to:

1) Very pro SB articles such as this one that basically tells women they will be paid big money for nothing in return.

2) Anti SD climate is leading to your “discounted rate” of 33%. I’ve noticed many of the SDs are not resigning up at the current high prices. This is particularly acute due to the bad attitude displayed towards them from SBs and frankly these blog articles. I wouldn’t doubt this is decreasing the incentive of men to sign up for this website.

3) Poor economy: probably part of it due to decreased levels of middle class jobs. However, I think this is less than factors 1 and 2.

OnlineNewbieSDsays:

They aren’t “new” profiles though…I didn’t see 4 pages of new profiles, maybe a dozen…it was profiles that were already on the system, but showed recent activity…

There may be something more…like, SA realizes the ratio is no where near reality, the activity of the SB profiles isn’t even enough to keep things where they are (and we discussed this extensively in prior blog posts)…

Let’s make sure it looks like there are a ton of active profiles…oh…and let’s do that while we try to entice more SDs to reactivate memberships at a reduced rate…

I believe something needs to change if SA is still going to have the higher revenue members active and supportive…this IS the “middle market” site for the SD…high end go to PA…low end are probably better off with BP or Eros on a p2p basis

Must be some issues with SA…just received a special promotion for 33% off Upgrading my membership…@THEATLSD:disqus are you still paying? Any others that were not paying receive the same offer?

@ONSD currently I am not upgraded. I did not receive that offer. YET. Probably will though.

And in another news. My last SB sent a message to me via SA. Which I can not read and she knows that SD can’t read messages with out being upgraded
Plus she has my email WTF??
Makes me want to start drinking!!

Jaybird923says:

She probably deleted your contact info after you guys ended.

OnlineNewbieSDsays:

@Jaybird is probably right…if you still have her contact info (and an interest) you should just reconnect that way…you can always remind her that you can’t check the SA messages because you’re not upgraded…

That’s possible but she didn’t seem like the bitter type that would delete it.
I won’t be losing any sleep over it.

StruggleIsRealsays:

Are you going to reach out to her via email or text or anything?

OnlineNewbieSDsays:

Doesn’t mean she’s bitter for deleting things right after you were done with things…she might have been trying another SD…she might have thought, “if this new guy gets ahold of my phone and sees messages from another guy it might blow things with him”

OnlineNewbieSDsays:

@THEATLSD:disqus I was recently contacted by one of the first coffee meets I had through SA! We hit it off alright, but she poofed on me…her profile disappeared for a bit…I saw it reappear around the end of the year in my Search results, but didn’t reconnect with her…now…out of the blue, she reaches out to me again…although I did see unemployment claims went up with last report?!

StruggleIsRealsays:

Yep exactly!

Lady Sagesays:

I get a free premium membership with my EDU student email address.

OnlineNewbieSDsays:

yeah, this underscores my point about the difference between the revenue stream created by SB profiles versus SD profiles…if they “give away” the premium service to the SB for having a .edu email address, the SD is the REAL revenue generator…”faking” online status will not KEEP the higher revenue member (neither will appearing desperate by discounting it if your target is the affluent!)

What do you mean? That’s “curvy” isn’t it? hahahahaha

KeKesays:

If you mean circle than yes. Very curvy. Lol

OnlineNewbieSDsays:

Yeah, a bit sarcastic from me…but that’s what I feel sometimes when I click through an “average” profile and see full body pictures…I’m not thin, but it still comes back to the underpromise and overdeliver!

The guys are doing the same thing their profile say athletic when they clearly are not. There are delusional people on both sides unfortunately I have no idea why people lie about their size.

OnlineNewbieSDsays:

Yeah, I didn’t mean to make it sound like it was just the SB profiles delusional about size, or age, or anything…it is the internet after all and you can be whatever you want when there is limited ability to verify details!

KeKesays:

No he’s not! I’ve had patients recently who can’t even wash their own ass, that’s how big they are!

Jaybird923says:

Gross

KeKesays:

Not a nurse ( medical imaging)but most of them can move, they might need a scooter to get around but they can usually move a couple of steps. The biggest problem for me was the table. We finally have a big bertha that goes to 500 pds. Any bigger and they have to go to the zoo depending on the exam they need.

Muahs ass…it’s a thing of beautiful. Omg!

StruggleIsRealsays:

Haha yes! I am liking the disqus format better.

OnlineNewbieSDsays:

I think I’ve seen a couple of profiles that stated something similar…one was like, “I want a daddy with more than one baby”; another expressed a desire to make things more interesting with a variety of babies to share; then there’s the “two for the price of one” crowd we’ve already talked about in past blog posts…Oh, and the “OpenMinded” crowd that will now cross-reference from SA…

You might find better luck by saying something more like, “listen, I work a lot…you work a lot…let’s find a mutual playmate we can both spoil” then there’s some buy-in from you on the entire situation 😉

Oh, and I realize you may be joking…but there IS an audience for that strategy!

Lady Sagesays:

He looks like a fun man! Alas I am a 5’6 midget!

Jaybird923says:

2 strikes for me I’m 5’8″ and I have brown eyes.

RussianSBsays:

Profile is not active, and, probably with stolen pictures. But, that is example how sugar plaboy profile should look like In Russia I always respond to such profiles – they are not POT, those playboys , but it is the direct way to get into some cool parties :))))))

I mean pictures. Advertisement of sugar lifestyle .

Joshsays:

There you go.

FlyBoysays:

I love the smell of beating on a retard in the morning

Ok! If you think that profile is something worthy of emulation, then you are more pathetic than I ever gave you credit for.

More importantly, if that profile is real, then it is gaudy and over the top cartoonish. Most likely it is not what it seems.

Here are the red flags:

1. He claims to be a PHD working in finance. The lingua franca of finance is English, so whether he is a native speaker or not, his profile screams “lack of education”.

2. A substantial allowance is par for the course at these levels especially in a major metro such as Miami. However, he then piles on with “posh quarters” and a fully paid car. When do these extras start, after the M&G, two months into the arrangement, a year down the line!! Why talk about them in the profile?

3. His insistence on a specific look is, if not a red flag, a pink one at the very least. Pedestalizing looks is sign of extreme beta thirst at best, but it could also be more sinister (see next point).

4. Skype!!!! Here we have a clue who this guy is. He throws everything at the girl in the profile, and then demands that she ‘shows’ him on skype why she deserves it all.

Verdict:
Best case: He is a Skype pervert.
Worst case: He is professional collecting amateur video for a pron site.
Very small probability: He is a thirsty beta who just came into money and doesn’t know how to use it.

Whatever he is, nothing in his profile is worthy of imitation unless of course one is a retard like you, then all bets are off.

Profile looks fake as shit.

Half of the words are misspelled.

Highly doubt he’s a really anything that he claims. But take your chance lol

OnlineNewbieSDsays:

I thought it was fake from the moment I saw it…plus…you’ve heard SDs complain about pictures on SB profiles with groups, does the “playboy” pictures with multiple and different women actually ATTRACT a SB? I can’t believe knowing a guy is gallivanting with women all the time would be attractive from a disease risk standpoint?!

No not unless she was desperate or if she has no other point of reference for how the majority of wealthy people live their lives. She might confuse flash with wealth and class.

RussianSBsays:

It is fake ! But pictures is inspiring !
Pictures taken with such beauties ( probably they even not sleep with him , but are some stand-models from some exhibition, or show) – attract SBs. I see that girls spending on hair 500$ per month, and I believe they have 100$ for STDs test. If guy hiding his ugly , cheap pros, it doesn’t mean there is no disease risk :)))))

Completely agree…just because she THINKS he’s “safe” doesn’t mean he is…and…at least if the profile pics are like this, she’s going in with her eyes open to his philandering!

CucumberOnLidssays:

LMAO! It’s the same thing where a POT contacted me with a hidden picture where he’s having unprotected sex with someone. I thought is that really supposed to be attractive to me? I thought what a clod!

Don’t sell yourself short, boss!!!

Cheers

Jaybird923says:

Oh Fundude you were doing so well. I thought we had breakthrough yesterday, but you’ve regressed. SMH

OnlineNewbieSDsays:

See, I would rather they keep this one until they have the forums established…at least then we wouldn’t have to “continue” any running conversations on another post!

However, at least with Disqus, we can be notified if someone responds to a comment from an earlier blog and we don’t have to continue clicking back to old ones if the comment number changes (or am I the only one that watches things like that?)

I’m not an enemy! D:

FunDude718says:

The Black Israelites are angry with some of the black women!

They are trying to exert their dominance in this video.

Promisesays:

But I didn’t even do anything! The second video reminded me of a lady that I say at the super market today. There was an overweight woman wearing one of those tank tops that show off your tummy, and shorts, and my mom said she looked like trash. I face palmed so hard.

Lols very interesting

Joshsays:

Is this one of those videos recorded on cell phone?

Promisesays:

No Josh.

Karensays:

I have been reading a little a few months and have noticed this same thing. Most of the postings are more like information that has nothing to do with the site and is chatter about silly unrelated topics.

FunDude718says:

Wow Karen, sucks to be you then.

Shit, let me only post on topics that Karen approves of!

I will get on the ASAP!

OnlineNewbieSDsays:

If you’ve really been reading, though, you would see there are nuggets of wisdom in even the most off topic “chatter”…plus, there are no forums yet to have actual conversations about other issues/topics in and out of Sugar, so, it happens here.

Last point…if you are in Sugar, you may not have ANY outlet to talk to others about your lifestyle (due to marriage, community standing, public figure, negative repercussions at school or home, as well as many other issues)…because we tend to be a “private” lifestyle (no matter how “public” you are WITH your SD, you don’t wear a “Hi, my name is Sugarbaby” badge…people ass-u-me your a SB when seen in public with that successful older gentleman, but they don’t KNOW and it’s generally not ADVERTISED), this gives us all a way to connect and talk about issues topics that may be happening in life even if it has nothing to do with Sugar.

Continue reading, commenting, asking, contributing, whatever…or…disappear like many others have done…it’s a GREAT way to make connections and get help, on whatever is happening in your life!

If you change your setting so that the comments are from Oldest to newest you’ll probably find some useful stuff there. Good luck.

Island Sugarsays:

Thank you Promise

CucumberOnLidssays:

What I find easier now is just to collapse certain member comments when I pop in. To the extreme right if you put your cursor over you’ll see two icons. One is a dash the other a flag. The dash allows you to collapse those comments so you don’t have to even read them. I wish there was a more permanent option like “blocking a user so you never have to read their posts”.

FunDude718says:

Wow princess, maybe we should just not talk about anything you don’t like huh?

Shit, let me get on that one right away!

OnlineNewbieSDsays:

I could copy and paste my response to the similar comment from Karen…but I really don’t want to waste ANOTHER post for someone to sift through looking for helpful information…

These comments are useful IF you use them properly…find some commenters that you like and follow their comments…ASK QUESTIONS…don’t just say it’s off topic, make a statement that’s ON TOPIC and get some feedback from those of us who will stay on topic when directed!

Also, understand, there are those of us living Sugar that have no one to talk to about Sugar…this gives us a way to talk to people ALSO living Sugar (presumably) about whatever is happening in our lives…

Kandeesays:

Well, I am pretty sure I just got genital herpes from my sugar daddy. I have to set up an appointment to be 100% certain, but I know herpes sores when I see them. I wish I could go back in time. I am feeling alone.

Speaking of the voting I noticed that you can kinda vote more than once. I voted on my phone. right now I’m on my computer, and the poll looks how it did before I voted.

OnlineNewbieSDsays:

I wondered about this…like there’s a FEW people that have voted multiple times to swing things to the old format…that’s why I asked Jeff if he had access to the details about the poll to see if it was heavily hit by people who weren’t contributing. If I were just trolling the comments, scrolling a single feed WOULD be easier than the conversation nesting on Disqus…but…as a contributor…being able to minimize a conversation I have no interest in is WONDERFUL!

Good luck with that. Have you ever had laser hair removal? How does it compare to that? I don’t have any tattoos or anything. Just curious.

Lady Sagesays:

I have had laser hair removal. It sensitive areas. This was intensely more painful and so damn expensive. I will probably have to do it 5 or so more times. It’s already an awful blister. I’m almost tempted to keep the tattoo. I’m going to time travel to 18 year old me and give her a spanking.

Yes yes it certainly is!
Sending you healing and pain-zapping vibes! With you in spirit. Owie.

Jaybird923says:

I do hope so. I try to stay optimistic

Hototrotsays:

I’m not a fan of tattoos or piercings, except the ears. Nothing sexier than clear, pretty skin. Although for some reason, when a man has a tattoo going up his neck that’s kind makes me rwarrrr! Like the tattoo Allen Iverson had back in the old days. But it suited him. If you’re not a rocker, rapper, athlete with a wild reputation, artist it just doesn’t work.

I agree. I was 18. Just finished boot camp and was drunk with my squad. We all got the same one. Nightmare lol

Joshsays:

Creepy men?

Jaybird923says:

I agree She should’ve publicly appoligized to him when it came yo light that she was wrong. Honestly I listened to the whole video but I stopped paying attention as soon as he said girls in high school where mean to him. Bias opinions

That’s a ridiculous comparison and you know it. If you’re going to debate me bring your A game.

Joshsays:

Why should I bring my A game when the no-so-A game would do?

Jaybird923says:

Aaahh Forgive me. You are right. Why bring your A game indeed. I keep forgetting your purpose in posting isn’t to have intelligent conversations. I won’t make the mistake of using logic and common sense in the future. I’ll just make ridiculous assertions and comparisons

That was definetly not OK.

FormerlyMuahsays:

When I first read the comment I took it as a threat! Especially since I wasn’t even talking about him or to him….

Joshsays:

Genius, the “photo of your open skull” was a play on your reference to your ass photo comment. Photo of an open skull would have proved lack of grey matter, but forget about that now. You have proven lack of it already.

Cool. Go talk at someone who actually cares about what you have to say. Oh wait that’s right you’re on a sugar dating site so you have to pay women for them to give you the time of day…

Joshsays:

I am definitely on a sugar dating site.

Are you on a sugar dating site, genius?

GeorgiaPeachsays:

Wow, the ladies here sure seem to think Josh as all this “power” here. LOL. I sincerely doubt it, but think as you will. LOL Josh just has his very own, sometimes outspoken opinions about issues he cares. I can’t see him having any control over what is blocked or flagged. LOL Ask Jeff Hamersly for yourself. LOL

Are you going to support her because she was “abused by” cancer or are you going to take her effort “with a grain of salt” because her negative experiences with cancer will color her views?

Jaybird923says:

NO I won’t support her because she beat cancer and it has a right to exist also. I won’t contribute money to help people do something like that. They are big meanies why can’t they just leave cancer alone.

@Online Good call with the advice on changing my expectations to practical.

Are you going to expand on that and possibly give hope to other SB???

Jaybird923says:

Sure ATL I had my expectation level set at negotiable. Online pointed out to me that a lot of SDs avoid profiles listed has negotiable for one of two reasons
1)They don’t want to deal with SBs who put negotiable when they truly were not and had unrealistic expectations
2) A lot of the escort/P2P play types are listed in that category.

I took his advice and changed my expectations. I was doing more than ok before but after the change I noticed an increase in traffic to my profile and more people actually initiating contact.

No. Taking a break from the “Pussy Wagon”. I wanted to go back to stay in sync with ONSD’s Han Solo Lego guy.

Promisesays:

Makes me wanna be in a Star Wars film too.

OnlineNewbieSDsays:

I’m betting that Episode VII kills it the first few weeks in the theaters…it will be the toy issue that keeps it there until the release of the next movie (which is not a part of the sequence)…if they get sexist with the toys (like the Marvel universe discussion) they may lose female fans — and nerd women have a LOT of pull at Cons!

THAT’S what SA promotes and no wonder we have to deal with the consequences of dealing with princess who want to be treated lavishly for absolutely NOTHING in return.

Robert Roulandsays:

When am I going to see the article about the SB and her respect and responsibility toward her SD? I cannot count the number of times I’ve been burned – give money, and the girl completely disappears or flakes and makes every excuse in the world why she can’t see you. After giving one girl nearly $2000 with almost nothing to show for it, I threatened to sue her and take her to small claims court. I pointed out that our arrangement was clearly documented in texts and messages, and she agreed to provide me her time for my money. After I made it VERY clear I wasn’t kidding around, she refunded me a good chunk of my money. Now that’s a story worth telling for these SBs to read about.

Don’t say I didn’t warn you. If we don’t here from you for a while I’ll assume you have been detained and you are being “encouraged” to answer questions lol

FlyBoysays:

Oh my God! My imagination is running wild!

HS: Now tell us FlyBoy; you have swindled by an SB before, have you not?
FB: No, never actually, My exper…
HS: Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
FB: Please stop, please, no need for electricity, I’ll tell you everything!
HS: OK FlyBoy, let’s do this again, shall we …

No Monicas. She was an idiot who didn’t know how to keep her mouth shut. I need a smart bitch who knows her place. No scandals in my white house Keke

KeKesays:

Lol! I meant for the blow job only.

Joshsays:

Michelle is a woman first.

Jaybird923says:

LOL I refuse Josh. I know where you want to take this conversation and I refuse to travel down that road with you. Fundude is doing a great job providing me with entertainment let me enjoy it without having to argue with you about women.

I think I’m on a similar planet. Cannibalism is becoming appealing.

How is that possible for such an alluring and eloquent woman?

KeKesays:

@GeorgiaPeach

It was wonderful! We took a cooking class together. It was so much fun. My best friend came to meet him. She thinks he’s awesome. Can’t believe how cute and funny he is. She asked to be our regular 3rd wheel. Lol. I stayed over and well that is always amazing. Plus he made sure he was very well rested…It showed! Hehe Then he cooked me breakfast this morning. We went out for a walk. Just talking and discussing the future. We text everyday with some Skype every once in awhile so we can’t get enough of each other when we are together.

He deserved that I’m glad he called him out on it He was trying to embarrass him but he forgot that Tyson is f-ing crazy and got more than he bargained for

Joshsays:

I am no fan of Tyson, but I loved the way he turned the interview around on the idiot. The purpose of doing time for anything is for the society to let the man live his post prison time in relative peace AS LONG AS he is attempting to be a productive member of the society.

KeKesays:

Agreed. Loved all of it!

This really is mostly common sense advice, most of what I’ve seen is just salt and immediate propositions with no interest in reciprocation. Some of us SB’s are truly open to other activities, but the horn dogs with no class ruin it for the really great SD’s on here.

Take some time guys, slow down a little, smell all the roses, don’t just charge over them with a Panzer at full speed.

KeKesays:

“I’m many things. A convicted rapist, semi good husband”. Lmao…Where is his Publicist?

FunDude718says:

” Put your mother in a straight jacket you punk ass White Boy! Ill fuck you in the ass in front of everyone! … I’ll fuck you in the ass in front of everyone!… Scared like a little White pussy, scared of the real man!…. I’ll fuck you to you love me faggot!”.

Promisesays:

FunDude718says:

JamieTXsays:

I haven’t read the other posts, so I’m not dismissing the disapproval of those who oppose this one. But what she shared is a reality. That doesn’t mean ALL daddies are like this.

My experience with the newbies is that they are undecided and/or instantly attach money to sex. I blame society and the media for furthering the idea that we are all just hookers and johns without a loving or nurturing bone in our bodies. I blame the hookers and johns on these sites. And I blame the newbies for not thinking independently.

I’ve certainly come across the bitter misogynist as well. Plenty of those.

Johnny Harper, regarding your comment, “I guess its good business telling the sugar daddies (who are essentially the ones who finance this website) that they are worthless
unless they unconditionally give money to Sugar Babies.

Sugar Daddies should expect no reciprocity in terms of intimacy or anything else. Just give them money.”

I really didn’t extract either from the post. On the latter, I believe she was referring to men wanting to discuss particular sexual acts/inclinations/preferences; not whether or not there would be intimacy. About 80% of the men who contact me here do just that, to the extent that I had to warn against it in my profile. And they STILL do it. It’s a real turn off.

I’m sure the numbers are also quite high on low quality women; high enough that one of you could write an equally unflattering post about the bottom feeder SB’s that are all over these sites. They want money, but don’t want intimacy. They have all kinds of drama. They’re looking for a free ride. They have no jobs/career goals/ambition. They have warrants. Multiple daddies. Addictions.

The one objection I have is the “time is money” comment. That furthers the idea that we are all hookers and johns. This isn’t a business, for some of us anyway. I have two jobs already. I’m not looking for a third.

I think it is also important to acknowledge those who make it worthwhile. My two previous relationships were absolutely wonderful. I know I was lucky. They’re not easy to find but nothing worth having comes easily.

The next HOT sugar daddy for this website: Mario Petris!

Dude is rich and a trainer to the stars! Dude smacks people around and all the women love him!

rembodlersays:

Good Manners for Young Ladies

While a lot has been said about the profiles, I would touch upon some points that are clear to me, but have not come across strong and might not be obvious to the aspiring SBs. I am just an “average middle-class dude”, so take it as you please.
1. Please do not put deceptive photos and qualifiers in your profile. Do not say
“athletic” if you have trouble finding your waistline; do not put face photos and get offended if a POT SD asks for a full body image.
2. The children…change your figure. Do not put the “before” photos in your profile and
come as you are now, after you have a 6 month old waiting at home. Whatever your girlfriends say, you might not look exactly like you looked when you peed on that test stick.
3. Reply to your SA messages within 24 hours. When you start an SA conversation, do
not just drop it and disappear for a few days.
4. Do not – despite what else you hear on the blog– do not negotiate any numbers before you meet the SD. Yes, you might waste your precious time and miss the episode of “19 kids and Counting”, if the offered allowance is not to your liking. However, negotiating the numbers in advance gives a very bad vibe.
5. Do not question #4, just trust me. If your communication with a person is going
well, you will not be disappointed and at least get a nice dinner out of it.
6. If you went on a date and you did not go dutch, write/text a “thank you” note, even if you are not interested to take it further. This is just being civil.

Just make sure that you expect the man to give you 2000/meeting and that there can’ t be any sex until you determine “chemistry”.

Worst comes to worse, just bang some bad boy on the side for free!

Nicholesays:

I wouldn’t do that, but thanks for the sarcasm

StruggleIsRealsays:

Ignore Josh and FunDude. There was a time when Josh offered valuable advice. He did to me and I appreciate it.
Things have changed since then. Listen to ATLSD, OnlineNewbieSD, honestly most of the rest here. There are an obvious few who are here for some other reasons which we don’t know or care about.

Nicholesays:

Thank you, I’m pretty sure Josh is creating multiple guest accounts to try and gang up on me and bash my profile. I thin I have a positive attitude about my approach to the sugar world and I am open to constructive criticism.

The profile is so bad, it needs several iterations of improvement before the Guru wants to look at it.

StruggleIsRealsays:

I just looked at the profile. I sympathize with you a bit more now. LoL

Nichole. First Jaybirds advice was good about the narrative especially “What are you going bring to the SD”. Also it’s to long and a run on paragraph. Shorten it up and break it into smaller paragraphs.

Pictures.. You have too many and most are close ups. Dump the pic with the thing on your head and and the one in the car. You only need 4 at the most. Your profile pic is wacky its out of ratio. Keep the red dress but maybe take it again in better lighting.

Next.. Lower your expection to Pratical. You are in a medium size city that won’t have as many SD that can do moderate or higher. Once you find a real SD and you prove yourself the money/gifts will improve over time. This has been proven many times over.

Lastly, (don’t take this personal) and this has been talked about to 1000000000000 degree on here. AA girls have a harder time on SA. So you have to bring your A game. There are many AA SB on this blog who are successful but it took a while to get there. KEKE, Kenna, jaybird to mention a few.

Be patient

Hope this helps.

Nicholesays:

I’m not sure what you mean about my profile pic, it doesn’t seem out of frame when I view my profile?

I put Moderate because I am willing to travel to California and I am transferring schools soon but I will change it to Practical for now.

I know what you mean about the last point! It’s so frustrating how long it has taken just because I have been almost consistently active for a year and I feel that I have a lot to offer, but that goes back to the first point you made about how I need to exude that.

Nichole. Your picture is stretched or the aspect ratio is off. I though it might be my phone but Struggles mentioned it also. You have a good education and back ground let that Flow out.

Dress up in a nice dress or skirt with HEELS go to a nice restaurant that has piano and have a friend take a picture of you standing next to it.
You need to ooze class to match your education and back ground.

Fun. It’s called HOPE. Something to aspire for.
Go “big or go home” which is the ever lasting theme in the delusional world of SB.

Lady Sagesays:

You’re always kind and helpful. You need a reward!

Yes. I agree I need a reward!! 😉

Nicholesays:

I understand, I want to put what I can offer in the What I Am Looking For section, I just don’t know how to put it into words.

I’m glad someone sees that it’s harder for black women on the site. I feel like it’s maybe taking too long to get there. I have been told my goals are impressive, the amount of travelling I have done is impressive, the number of languages, my current goals etc but still haven’t had an arrangement yet. Thoughts?

Jaybird923says:

Nicole your profile has absolutely no personality. The grammar is off. Please remove goat herder from your occupation. That can be a fun fact you share after you make a connection. And if you’re moving to Cali put that in the profile not your headline.

I like your username but your headline sucks. This is your chance to catch the SDs attention and you’ve failed. (Eloquent excited and flexible.) Come up with something else If you like to travel try “Globetrotter seeks companion” etc.

About me section. Give them A glance at your personality. Any special skills talents that will be of value to the SD. Example: ” I give amazing massages and there is nothing I love more than to help the special person in my life relax after a long stressful day.
You want someone to give you money but what does he get for it. Why should he pick you over the thousands of other girls on SA.

The what I’m looking for section needs a lot of work.Don’t start that section off asking for money. Describe what type of arrangement you want and with who. Example: “I am seeking a long term NSA arrangement with an Experienced SD. Someone with whom I can form a genuine connection. Ideally I would like to meet 4 times a month. My schedule is very flexible and can easily be adjusted to work around yours. etc.”

You really need to work on the pictures. They are edited badly, you have the camera to close to your face and the full body shot is distracting.

I’m sure other will add there opinions these are just mines. Good Luck

Nicholesays:

I understand, it’s just hard to talk about myself and yeah, I get comma happy so I’m sure there are a lot of comma splices in my profile. In messages SDs have commented I am well spoken but I have a hard getting that and my personality across in my profile. I have some new pictures pending and will get one it with the full bodies. It is true, I do give great massages and enjoy cooking for people. I put the goat wrangler bit in their for humor, should I still take it out?

StruggleIsRealsays:

Headline-
Rather than SAY you are eloquent, just show it and leave the compliments for those who come across you. It comes off a bit self congratulatory.

“Flexible”… I’m not a SD so maybe it is my yoga background, but I honestly thought you meant that you are bendable. LoL I realized though that it it means you are willing to meet the needs and desires of a SD. Leave that out of your headline (you do mention it in your “what I’m looking for”, that is enough.).

Think of your headline as your “teaser”. Show something about your personality. Give a tiny taste of who you are.

California plus the date… Leave this out as well. CA is a big state, for one, and secondly, it just seems a little desperate to be letting everyone know in your headline when and to where you are moving.

Photo-
Your main photo is stretched out or something. You look cute though. Just fix the sizing.
Your second photo needs to be removed. You look drunk or something and the lighting is horrible.
The red dress photo in the mirror is not helping you. I rarely understand mirror photos. Hand the camera to a friend and have her take a picture of you. Remember your face is in the picture too. (If one MUST do a mirror pic, please for the love of God, make eye contact with your phone camera, i.e. the audience.)

Occupation-
Goat wrangler? If you were funny throughout your profile, this would be super funny and hot to me. But I am guessing you are serious? You are moving to CA to be a goat wrangler?

About me-
You sound like a nice girl who is working hard and would be an enjoyable SB for the right SD. Overall, nice. I just think you need more personality infused throughout your writing.
Your second sentence needs to be broken up into at least two, maybe three, sentences.
I don’t know about including the bit about distance, unless you are specifically seeking a long distance relationship. Probably just leave that out and let the chips fall where they may.

What I’m Looking For-
Between this section and the previous, I just think overall you need to speak more to the SDs; tell them why you will benefit them. You do it a tiny bit but there needs to be a little less you and a little more them.

Nicholesays:

I have done a few of the edits so far and still having trouble with the wording.
Headline: I’m have no idea what to put creative so far

Photos: I deleted one or two and added in some new ones to start with and got rid of the red dress picture
Occupation: I added Goat Wrangler for humor, not because I was serious. I’m moving to CA to transfer schools.

About me: Thank you, I am glad you get that vibe from my profile, the biggest challenge thus far has been to show my personality through my writing and use the right words.

What I’m Looking For: I completely reedited this section and try to appeal more the potential SDs as opposed to what it is I would like from them. Thoughts?

Jaybird923says:

I understand it’s hard to talk about yourself. I like to use an interview format. Get a sheet of paper make a list of questions? (Hopefully some of the SDs on here will give some examples of what they want to know about a SB.)
Examples:
1)What are your hobbies. 2)What is something special or different about yourself. 3)What will you bring to an arrangement. 4)Why should an SD choose you.

when you’ve answered the questions you’ll have an outline to construct your profile and it helps you get a better understanding of what you’re looking for.

Nicholesays:

Okay, I’ll use these questions and others I can think of that may be applicable. So far the easiest of your questions to answer is #2, because I speak three languages and I have lived in different countries.

I removed the goat thing and thought about what you said about lack of personality and humor. I would like to incorporate more humor but I do not know the difference between being humorous and ‘hamming it up.’ In writing my profile I do not know what my strengths are, I speak better than I write.

Jaybird923says:

Hey Nichole the grammar is still off so I edited for you but much better job at getting your personality across. You have to space out the paragraph. I would use the picture with curly hair instead of the hat pic it makes you look older than you are.

Since you are a premium member hide your join date The longer you’ve been on here the less interested the men are. No one wants what nobody else wanted. so if your profile says you’re new but your join date says 2012 they’ll wonder why you’re unsuccessful. I wish you all the best with your search. hopefully you find what you’re looking for.

EDITED PROFILE

My name is Nichole and I’m currently in school to become a dentist. (it was either this or goat wrangling). I enjoy reading, bicycling, watching movies and cooking (I’m currently learning how to make Indian food) I speak three languages. One is obviously English. If you can guess the other two, you win a special prize ; )

I am here to find one great guy, who’s open to a Mentor/NSA relationship. If you’ve had problems finding someone who is honest and consistent in the past, then your search is over. I am adaptable and capable of transitioning seamlessly from a ball game to a ball gown. When in an unfamiliar situation I do not panic or shut down. I maintain composure and rally to make sure that I represent you and myself in a way that is above reproach.

Although my current location is in Phoenix/Flagstaff, I will be transferring to a university in California on June 1. I am an open book if there’s anything you would like to know just send me message and I’ll get back to you.

What I’m looking for

I am looking for someone who is comfortable with a long term NSA arrangement. I would love if we could meet on the weekends 2-3 times a month. This way I’ll be able to give you my undivided attention. Trust me you want my undivided attention 😉 I like to make the people I care for happy. If you pick me that would be my number one priority … making you happy.

Why are you mad at me?

I am SUPPORTING YOUR VALUE!!!

These evil creepy rapist sugar daddies!

They should give you 2K and lunch due to the value of your company!

Lela Beesays:

The other day, I was emailing a guy and he appeared to be sweet and serious until he asked to fuck me hard for $1000 over a course of 3 days. Lets see someone blame ME for this lmao. Some people are just natural born assholes

How dare you share such a thing here ?! That is future implied rape regret !

FunDude718says:

THATS MESSED UP!!!!

The guy was trying to rape her now?

Joshsays:

ABSOLUTELY. If she went for $1000 for three days. Then let’s say that she had ONLY 15 orgasms instead of expected minimum of 16. Then he did not meet his end of the bargain, and hence it would be implied rape, only to be absolved by more funds from him.

Or she will talk to her feminist rape expert friends to come up with an angle for the District Attorney.

LMAO. Actually, I do wish I could do just that…. LMAO. LOL

FunDude718says:

Come on Georgia, where is the compassion for CURVY LADIES!

GeorgiaPeachsays:

Sorry, it’s going down the tubes so to speak. This shit is hard to get off… much more difficult to get the weight OFF than put on. Though mine was due to far too much stress coupled with other factors… but no excuses. I just know I’ll feel better and can do “more” with less weight on this ass. LOL

Yeah, woman rather say pills. I don’t care that he is naked, it is narcissism. But blaming women in all sins can be latent and opressed homosexuality.

FunDude718says:

yes you figured me out!

shit, my penis was really confused last night. it seemed to like vagina!

Lavish Vixensays:

Anyone who actually thinks something like that without having a laugh needs some serious mental assistance right there. It is a comments section of an article for seeking arrangement, not your Call of Duty game on the play station.

Oh my, I just joined and hope this is not a representation of men on the site!

I just said that was the end result of feminism.

Joshsays:

In keeping with all the med suggestions…Meds time for you?

StruggleIsRealsays:

Was that to me?

Nicholesays:

I have no idea what to say when it comes to the About Me section or how to vocalize what I am looking for in a brief, direct manner, but I did start working on the About Me section and here is how I edited it: I am currently in school to become a dentist, my inspiration
to choose this field is to find the cure for oral cancer. I love to spice
things up and I enjoy showing my appreciation for others and the possibilities
are endless and I aim to please 😉 I speak three languages and have lived in
places like Chicago, Hawaii, and Japan, so my passport is valid. I enjoy
football, cooking for others, and taking on a new challenge. I am excited to
see what opportunities this site may provide and I have the flexibility in my
schedule if you don’t mind the distance). As I am new to this and looking
forward to meeting new people, I would like to have a conversation with you
before you request to see my private photos

must’ve been good at faking it last night with my 23 y/o girlfriend.

GeorgiaPeachsays:

So you did get “creative” huh? LOL

StruggleIsRealsays:

Actually, one day I will look for my own SB, with my man’s approval, knowledge, and participation. She will be paid handsomely and we will make sure her life is better than it was without us. She will be mine and we will be his. I actually do have an eye for an attractive lady. No, I am not a SD, but managed to nab the best one out there and am in the best relationship ever with him now. I think I do have a fair perspective.

Thank you! You;re a great coach, I’m about to start working on the What I’m Looking For section

Joshsays:

FlyGirl does not know jack. Your profile still sucks.

Nicholesays:

I’m going to put this articulately, Josh I’m started to get irritated quickly with your “criticisms” if you’re not willing to heklp and just say vague, useless things like, “your profile sucks” then say nothing at all. You;re not helping it just sounds like you;re being an ass. Be mindful that I am putting this politely

They don’t have to be professional just wear something nice and have some one snap some clear pics of you in good lighting

Nicholesays:

Okay

Nicholesays:

You’re right, I’m sure Josh and FunDude are the same person

Jaybird923says:

Good job People who are willing to accept advice and admit when they need help always do better. So many ask for help but when you don’t tell them what they want to hear they get upset. They are the one’s who’ll post on blogs about how it’s been over a year and still no arrangement.

In what you’re looking for section try to put more about how you’ll be an asset to an SDs and less about what you want the SD to do for you

Moonrisekingdomsays:

Good grief. Well said strugglesIsReal. Are there any moderators for this forum in the house?

Jeff, the admin, I saw a few of your posts before on this thread. Can you please stop the posters FunDude718 and Josh from posting this inappropriate content? This is not an appropriate place for talk of rape, or making fun of tape and badgering of the ladies here.

StruggleIsRealsays:

When do you start at Booth? I enjoyed some great classes this week with my boyfriend. You’re doing the part time program right?

StruggleIsRealsays:

FunDude. Funny how you reply to all else and not to this. You are so fake it’s just fun to watch. Go Josh! I commend your schizophrenia on, at the very least, constructing swiss cheese blog personalities to fill your time.

Jaybird923says:

still had nothing to do with this blog. Should people who make false claims be prosecuted yes. But you guys are blowing this out of proportion the percentage of actual rape cases far out weight the fraudulent ones.

But I don’t you see you guys advocating for the rape victims who’s reputations are torn to shreds and are made to carry the blame for what happened to them because there skirt was to short or they were out to late and all the other nonsense defense attorneys use to get the clients off.

The stats don’t show that. Most rape accusations are DROPPED due to insufficient evidence.

Its hard to tell who is telling the truth.

All of the recent cases in the news have been FALSE.

Jaybird923says:

Okay fundude. Since you want to be obtuse I’ll play along. Wow I didn’t know that. You mean ALL the recent cases in the news are false and no real rapes have occurred recently. I wasn’t aware of this new trend. Are all women reading the same Tumblr blog. How to fake a rape.

Yes there is a double standard.

Feminists never accuse women who have sex with very intoxicated men as being RAPISTS!

It ONLY applies to men!

Another feminist hypocritical stance.

GeorgiaPeachsays:

Yes, but isn’t that like a double-edge sword here? If a man were to report he was raped, wouldn’t that be against his own “manhood” that he allowed himself to be raped by a woman? Men can’t have it both ways, either.

If you really feel that way about me then I think it would be in both of our best interests if we don’t talk to, or about another again. Good bye.

StruggleIsRealsays:

Nah. I will happily do as I please. I haven’t been ugly to you. I am a nice person, here to converse nicely with other nice people. Fortunately for me, I don’t need multiple personalities to prove myself to… myself.

My apologies for my suspicion of you yesterday, Russian. I have noticed a pattern that he does. He initially goes against his own to appear legit, then aligns himself with them/ them with him.

With your sporadic posting and sudden many posts interacting with him, it seemed possible.

Now I see otherwise and do hope you accept my apology

RussianSBsays:

Apologies accepted. But why are you care at all – I can be Josh or Hillary Clinton, or can even be a maniac in conflict with my 8 personalities – I will write and angrily respond to myself here. Calling man a woman here, or accusing in having multiple accounts, without proof … Josh is Josh (if only you know HOW different we are from each other, me and Josh , in real life) ! But he post more positive from the begining, now he is bitter and pessimistic. And you are so suspicious from the begining, what will be in one year, dear ?

See this is what I was talking about. you have two rule but won’t post them here. Then what the hell was the point of letting us know about them?

StruggleIsRealsays:

Like the “AFF website” that “she” didn’t want to post after she mentioned it. Spineless fake virgin. At least you are more nice than FunDude. Can we get rid of him and keep you? I’ll even keep josh too. LoL

FunDude718says:

You haven’t given the course of events.

Please tell us how it has come to harassment in the first place.

Did you ever meet in person?

Saphia S.says:

No I haven’t, but he won’t stop messaging me. We were talking and he asked where i was from, and I told him I’m american, but he refused to believe it because of my skin color and the way I look. I was born in Canada and grew up here in America. I was born here in America, therefore I have every right to call myself an American. He started calling me a liar, and has been making nasty racist remarks. I’ve never had an issue with any other member on this site

I have listed above the reasons for my “negativity” towards Megan.

If the reverse happened to a sugar baby, you would be up in ARMS that personal information was given out on this blog.

CucumberOnLidssays:

Everything you just posted after that went up was WAY OUT OF BOUNDS. If your issue was the information being posted then you could have stated just that. Instead you go on one of your usual psychotic tirades and then introduce rape jokes? Wow when you really want to fall you find the highest mountain to climb. Good luck with that broken neck. I figured you wouldn’t last 3 days before getting back to the crazy.

Who are you do decide what we can talk about?

Also, the topic is FALSE RAPE accusations. Not “rape” itself.

Are you denying there is an epidemic of false rape accusations?

CucumberOnLidssays:

NOPE THAT IS NOT THE TOPIC! Ahh I get it now. Let’s try to bring up sensational hot button topics to rouse fear mongering and maybe the site will loose more female members. Maybe you’re a shill for some SA competitor site because all you do is insult women that aren’t in your specific body, age , allowance types. If it’s not that let’s post the word Rape in all caps several times in a few minutes to really get people going.

You pretty much nailed it. Trolls live for attention and often use controversial topics to incite reaction and attack so as to get any attention, or try to hurt others.

CucumberOnLidssays:

Watch what happens. Both will show intense concern for SBs for awhile , asking probing question on wow how did this happen? It’s all to try to keep their asses of the chopping block. Watch the theatrical “care” and “concern”.

Would you be accepting of this? Of course not!

You would go after the sugar daddy who did it.

You are just a typical hypocrite that is very one sided on these issues.

CucumberOnLidssays:

@FunDude why are you laughing and making light of this situation? I don’t think it’s funny when SDs gets ripped off. It’s like this situation activated you back to the feminist rants. Also who said anything about rape?

She shouldn’t be laughed at.

That piece of garbage should be put in jail for at least 10 years due to her defamation of an innocent man.

Unfortunately, we don’t charge these fake rape accusers.

Joshsays:

No one would have made “fun of this girl for her bad experience” if she had not posted personal information about some random man who is not here to tell his side of the story.

However, since you seem to believe that everything a woman says should be believed until proven otherwise by a grueling dragging on the coals investigations of the male, you have problem with making “fun” of her “poor decision”.

You are a bitter beta then.

FunDude718says:

Better to be a bitter beta with money than to be a broke and abused beta spending money on a used goods post wall woman.

Megansays:

I have had such a hard time on this site, the man I recently met up with promised me 1300 in exchange for a few hours of hanging out together. I drove to Marina Del Rey & should have left immediately because he sounded way too nice over the phone. He had me park my car in his gated car garage which I initially felt weird about doing but I went with it because I figured I wouldn’t have any issue getting it out. Needless to say this asshole pushed me into have sex with him when I felt VERY uncomfortable then asked me to walk across the street with him to have dinner at Cheesecake Factory & that he would give me the 1300 after we ate and that the bank was next door. He then told me to order a drink & that he was going to use the restroom. HE LEFT ME THERE & LEFT THE RESTAURANT & NEVER ALLOWED ME TO GET MY CAR OUT OF HIS GARAGE!!! HE NEVER GAVE ME THE 1300 HE HAD PROMISED. I HAD TO RUN ACROSS THE STREET & BANG ON HIS OFFICES DOOR & TELL THE MANAGER AT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX WHAT HAD HAPPENED AND SHE OPENED THE GATE FOR ME. Ladies please be aware of this liar & horrible human. His real name is Peter but he goes by “William”. His name on SA is “blessingsforyou”. Also the link to his SA profile is below! His phone number is (213)-290-4577. His address is 4245 Via Marina Marina Del Rey,CA. DO NOT MEET UP WITH THIS MONSTER HE COULD ALSO BE DANGEROUS!!!! DONT GET SCAMMED LIKE I DID!!!

StruggleIsRealsays:

Yikes. Thanks for sharing. Will likely get deleted but do as RussianSB said and post on whatever relevant blogs there are.

Jaybird923says:

It’s good of you to share your experience with everyone and hopefully someone reading this will learn from your mistake. But this is unfortunately another case of women ignoring their instincts for the chance to make a couple of dollars.

She also was stupid enough to believe he would give her 1300 dollars to “hang out”.

I mean the whole thing looks so fraudulent on the surface only a moron would fall for it.

Jaybird923says:

I have to agree. I love how she takes no responsibility for her part in this. The big bad man pushed her to have sex even though she was uncomfortable. No you decided to sleep with him even though you were uncomfortable because you couldn’t resist the lure of $1300. Accept your mistake and be glad that the worst thing that happened to you was you didn’t get the money.

Jaybird923says:

lol sorry duly noted. On another note I answered your question about the nutrients in sperm. I think you’ll get a kick out of the answer.

Hototrotsays:

You have to remember some people are still a very naive, not just money struck. I was pretty dumb and quite sheltered at 18. I’m shocked at some of the things I believed at that age. I had a professor in college who pulled a stunt on me during a study abroad trip. Wanted me to come to his room and I did! Until then I still saw most adults as authority figures and just took their word. Glad she didn’t get hurt though. Lesson learned.

Jaybird923says:

It was not naivety. Throughout her whole post she goes on about how things were weird or she felt uncomfortable but instead of walking away she just kept going along with the situation. If money wasn’t the motivation for disregarding every warning bell that went off what was?

Hototrotsays:

Yeah. She sounded a bit desperate and not too bright. Cheesecake Factory and $1300 at the end of the rainbow? She messed up but he should get put on blast too. What he did wasn’t cool. Preying on other people should not be rewarded. She took a hit and he should take a hit too by being exposed as a fraud. She’s not a real victim, but he shouldn’t get protection from her retaliation. Even Steven.

Can we post personal information about sugar babies that are frauds as well?

I think we should post their address, names, phone numbers, SA profile, etc.

Hototrotsays:

I don’t advocate putting up anybody’s personal information. But, if you screw over people- be it male or female- there are generally repercussions. If a SD wants to identify a dirty dealing SB, who am I to say anything? If the person is spreading false information, there are proper channels to go about clearing yourself. We have a judicial system for a reason.

rembodlersays:

Megan’s post should be removed.
While this may very well be true and I feel for her, this is a terrible precedent. Opens the possibility for abuse and score settling.
real names phone numbers addresses have no place here.

He must be slumming it.

Anonymoussays:

He also has this profile …

RussianSBsays:

In that site engine, same as in that blog , good money and care invested. Thank you , Mr. Brandon. And for someone site still doesn’t work.I think it is personal problem – don’t blame the site . That lifestyle not for everyone, but for little group of people.Rich , famous, beautiful.
They have no problems using the site, only benefits, same as in real life meetings.
If you not rich – you cannot afford financially support someone, because it is extra.
If you not beauty – you not attract men.( Here , I think, every woman should go to the mirror and ask herself if she sexy, attractive and f…ble ).
No, it is not the place filled with Santa Klauses, who want give huge allowances to every less-than-average girl just because they feel so generous, or are packed with money. (But, that happens sometimes here).

FunDude718says:

Correct, you have to be hot to play.

RussianSBsays:

I still stick to the categories of men here.
1. Real SDs, who don’t like to waste their time on endless dates – they can only say “Thank’s God, such sites exist “. Or, if they don’t likes the choise of ladies here, they deleting from the site and meet in real life.
2. Guys who cannot afford allowance, and eaten up by envy to guys #1. They will critisize girls on SA, say that they are to old/fat/stupid or generally “not beautiful enough ” to even think of allowance.
I agree that looks really matters in dating world. But, look arround, men marrying and giving allowance to all kind of women, sometimes really ugly or really crazy women.
Those guys biotching about quality of women on SA , still stay registred during 10 years, visit their profile every day, and blog every hour.

FunDude718says:

Nice rationalization hamster there champ.

Nice straw man again.

flyrsays:

@danhhhhhh dude man up this stuff is not that complicated

First email yes I am a real SD who is comfortable providing sugar concurrently with the commencement of an intimate relationship . If this is of interest we should talk if not we should enjoy the silence. Look forward to your reply

Real men don’t replicate the tribal rituals of liberal women – substituting whining and endless reprocessing of events for action. Sounds like the dance of 1,000 Hillary Clintons. You have 5 SB’s for every SD and probably 10 for every real SD. If you can not find a great arrangement the enemy is in the shaving mirror

Such bullshit does not work on many men anymore, my dear Madame @flyR; a woman posting and trying to induce guilt in men in the old style shaming techniques.

In the age of feminist “ewuality” the operative term should be “human up”, no?

flyrsays:

Joshie – You can do it or you can sit in mommies basement and whine whine whine . Waaaa Waaaaa Waaaa

Life is so unfair to the lazy, arrogant, bigoted, incompetent and the stupid…….. If you can not find a quality SB here for a reasonable allowance you are either abusive , lame, or a combination thereof.

As has been true for centuries is now true on the internet – empty wagons make the most noise………… You sound like the typical rioter life is unfair

Joshsays:

And you will insist that the above text was written by a man, Madame flyR?

Flyrsays:

Josie – When you are ready to put some cash behind your BS you’ll get some respect. In the meantime you’ll upgrade you SD game if you do something more productive like spending weekends picking up aluminum cans from the roadside and garbage cans.

Why should men do the “man up” thing for independent powerful feminist women?

That is just slavery.

Illogical argument.

flyrsays:

@struggle Hope all is going well…… you deserve it

StruggleIsRealsays:

Thank you dear! It is, and funny you say that because I really feel like I don’t deserve it / him.

Okay well maybe just for right now. Poor babe is sick as a dog and man does his projectile vomit have some reach! He never gets sick so he has zero control over it either. Since last night I have just been helping him, consoling him, and mostly following him around cleaning up all the barf! LoL! Not sure what he has. Some sort of stomach bug or something ? He said his stomach felt funny about 2 days ago, and just last night the upchuck began.

Your photos are fine. However, your profile text sucks. I am sure others will point out what exactly is wrong. Best of luck!

Nicholesays:

I agree but I don’t know how to shorten it and make it more direct

Jaybird923says:

You use way to many adjectives and it drags when one reads it.

Get rid of the confrontational language it’s off putting “If I am too far for you please do not bother requesting to see my private photos, it’s counterproductive and annoying” change to something like this
I would love a chance to get to know you before receiving a private picture request”

and also your opening line doesn’t flow. “I am a ambitious college girl with the goal to work as a dentist to find the cure for oral cancer” try something like this I am currently attending school to become a dentist. My inspiration in choosing this field is to find a cure for oral cancer.

You talk a lot about what you want/need from an SD but say nothing about you will do for an SD. Hope this helps

How dare you take my proxy away from me, you post-wall batshit crazy woman?

There are Josh’s proxy that pre-date even Josh. Josh’s actually a proxy itself. Comprende?

LadyScarlettsays:

Uh oh, must have really bit him with that one…he brought out the ‘big alpha guns’ with his weapon ‘words’ of typical BS insults, hehe. Yawn, get new material, mr. Senior citizen who lives on the blog, twiddling away his golden years, pretending to be an actual SD, and has blog persona schizophrenia.