Re: Question for spriests

That seems kinda dumb for a shadow priest to try to take that over someone else. 180 spirit * 10% = 18 spellpower, plus a bit more if you have the glyph. The old Darkmoon Card: Crusade gave us 80 spellpower at a full 10 stacks. Tell your shadow priest to go do their homework.

Re: Question for spriests

Spirit is the worst scaling stat for spriests, no reason he should be needing that trinket.
That would be akin to a dps war grabbing tanking gear with heavy armor simply because he spec'd into Armored to the Teeth.

Re: Question for spriests

Spirit is a lovely stat for us now, as opposed to basically worthless. But it's not worth more than straight spellpower, or crit, or haste... I mean, Spirit is what we now see on our gear and go "Cool, thanks Blizzard, that'll help", and then throw good gems/enchants on it. =P

Re: Question for spriests

A big part of that's that you're still in Sunwell gear, rather than blues or the like. Sunwell gear has precious little for regen stats on it, unlike simple blues or ilvl200 purple. Someone just entering raids for the first time after having replaced every slot won't face nearly the mana issues as people in T6 or Sunwell gear.

Re: Question for spriests

Exactly - bigger mana pool. That means more intellect. And intellect is twice as good as spirit is for straight regen. For every 1000 extra mana someone has because they're in blues, they're gaining 10mp5 on your purely because of how Replenishment works, on top of better regen simply because of the regen formula. Add in the possibility of frost mages and (more likely) resto shammies, and it turns out your mana pool means quite a bit.

Re: Question for spriests

My point was in relation to your comment
- "We actually need the Spirit regen for raiding.
- I'm going OOM like a madman in Naxx25."
While that's true now, once we get the gear we're actually supposed to be wearing on not low-regen Sunwell/T6, mana issues should drop dramatically. And that spirit is not the way to increase your regen.

Re: Question for spriests

Cooldowns are rather situational in Naxxramas, example is it hard using Shadowfiend when Heigan is on the platform and do AoE damage, and it also often dies on Grobbolus.

The percentages was roughly examples based on how much mana it regenerates.
Often I save mana potion for later so I could use a health stone if it comes down to being more nessary to survive than dps.

And Dispersion is best to use during movement, again Heigan is a prime example, using it during the dance is so much better than a shadowfiend.

Getting the Shadowfiend glyph would help in Naxxramas, but noone on my realm have discovered it yet (1 Northrend discovery a day).

Originally Posted by lsfreak

My point was in relation to your comment
- "We actually need the Spirit regen for raiding.
- I'm going OOM like a madman in Naxx25."
While that's true now, once we get the gear we're actually supposed to be wearing on not low-regen Sunwell/T6, mana issues should drop dramatically. And that spirit is not the way to increase your regen.

Yes I absolutely agree, but it seems more beneficial to gear up mages that do 1k more dps.

Re: Question for spriests

Firstly, I wouldn't use that trinket personally, however the distinction between healing loot and dps loot has certainly blurred in recent times.

Keep in mind that about 5 spirit is worth 1 spellpower and shadowpriest.com has the trinket listed at number 11 and considering plenty of spriests have communicated problems with their mana pools, it may not be as stupid as it looks on the surface.

Blizzard stated that they didn't like players stacking 1 or 2 stats and they wanted people to balance the need for mp/5 for less direct damage stats...

And before you shoot me down in flames read the first sentence again, i'm just saying people are going to need to start thinking a bit more open mindedly.