I have to add this... you leave for a while with a poopy attitude... and come back with a poopy atitude... um, well, you're not going to have much luck here. Really. Madthumbs, I've held myself back from responding to MANY of your posts, but I've been patient. In that time though, the flibble stick's strength has only INCREASED... so... um... well, you've said you don't want to be involved here anymore.. so... just go... You're wasting bandwidth AND people's time.