GIVING MARTIAL ARTS RSPCT

INTERVIEW CONDUCTED BY DAVE CATER

(First printed in Inside Kung Fu Magazine - July 2004)

Introduction(by: Dave Cater)

Inside Kung-Fu Hall of Fame member Mike Patterson is among the finest and most successful instructor/coaches in the
world. His hsing-I-based fighters have always been admired for both their technique and toughness, especially in a sport
dominated by hard stylists.

But several years ago, the San Diego, Calif., teacher discovered that it was taking many of his students too long to
master the skills necessary to become proficient in fighting. And so he created Realistically Structured Progressive
Combat Training (RSPCT), which essentially cuts through the static exercises and singular forms that stand in the way of
skill progress. Patterson insists that many students simply give up on their training because it takes too long to reach
their goal. He maintains RSPCT gives practitioners a more "direct" route to internal mastery. Here's how it works:

INTERVIEW

INSIDE KUNG-FU: What is RSPCT?

MIKE PATTERSON: RSPCT stands for Realistically Structured Progressive Combat Training. The program contains five tiers of
training with each tier broken into two segments for a total of ten parts. The program is non traditional in that it does
not utilize fixed singular form in training but rather a progressive series of drills and conceptual teaching to impart
graduated fighting skill.

INSIDE KUNG-FU: Why is there a need for RSPCT training?

MIKE PATTERSON: Many people interested in the martial arts today do not want to spend the time necessary to become
proficient in an entire system. The seemingly endless training in static exercises and singular forms turns many people
off who are looking for a more direct route to skill. In creating RSPCT, I am trying to offer those individuals an
opportunity to learn the core lessons of the internal martial arts in a different venue.

INSIDE KUNG-FU: Was there something lacking in your training that led to the creation of RSPCT?

MIKE PATTERSON: Quite the contrary. I feel that the internal arts are one of the few complete systems of combat out there.
But the fact remains that to study the internal arts to "completion" requires many, many years. Most people today do not
have the patience or see the need to spend that much time to master a complex discipline.

INSIDE KUNG-FU: With all your students' fighting success, why did
you feel a need to make changes?

MIKE PATTERSON: Actually, it was because of those successes that the concept of RSPCT was born. Through the implementation
of core principles found in internal martial training, we were able to successfully train exemplary fighters for
competition in a relatively short time span. This in turn spawned the idea that the same approach could be used on a scale
much broader than competitive fighting endeavors.

INSIDE KUNG-FU: Has the teaching of the internal styles become more of an exercise, in well, exercise?

MIKE PATTERSON: For many, yes. In my humble opinion, too many teachers have gotten away from the very ideals that caused
the martial arts to come into being in the first place. Afterall, they are "martial arts" first and foremost aren't they?
By what perspective some individuals seemingly ignore the first word in favor of the second I will never understand.

INSIDE KUNG-FU: If so, how did that happen, since each of the internal arts has such a strong external root?

MIKE PATTERSON: I speculate that there are many reasons. The vast majority of martial arts practitioners out there are
seemingly uninterested in developing true fundamental fighting abilities these days. For many, perhaps the reality of
having to one day utilize their skills to defend themselves or those they care about simply does not resonate strongly
enough.

INSIDE KUNG-FU:
Does your RSPCT program add to internal training or have you abandoned much of the traditional teaching?

MIKE PATTERSON: RSPCT is a distillation, a synthesis of all that I have learned in the past 33 years while practicing,
competing and coaching full contact fighters in the internal disciplines. It is by no means an abandonment of traditional
teaching. When you have been doing traditional martial arts for as long as I have, it gets in your blood and it becomes
impossible to contemplate abandoning that which makes you breathe. RSPCT simply offers an alternate route.

INSIDE KUNG-FU: Are students not being taught the external qualities of the internal systems?

MIKE PATTERSON: In many schools I believe this to be true. To a great many practitioners out there the notion of training
"internally" means something akin to "let's tune in and sense our own energy". I will be the first to admit that this is a
part of the tradition of internal training but it by no means ends there. If you wish to develop the internal martial arts
as complete disciplines, then you cannot ignore the conditioning side of things. A body that is not conditioned properly
cannot obey the commands of the mind. Please note that I did say "conditioned properly" as I don't believe in a "buckets
of sweat" approach to conditioning for its own sake. The internal martial arts are about efficiency and precision. If
conditioning is approached haphazardly, you will become stronger but you will not become more efficient and you will not
become more internally capable. Both sides of training must be held in balance and perspective.

INSIDE KUNG-FU: Many first-generation sifu do not like to teach the fighting aspects of their style. Why do you think
that is?

MIKE PATTERSON: I cannot speak to what motivates other sifu. I can only speak to my own motivations.

INSIDE KUNG-FU:
Let's break down RSPCT. How much is tai chi, how much is hsing-I, and how much is paqua?

MIKE PATTERSON: Most of the tactical and theoretical concepts are based in Hsing I and Pa Kua. The principles of Tai Chi
are utilized primarily in close quarters for neutralization prior to takedown. RSPCT is divided into five broad categories
of training; Reflexive, Structural, Perceptual, Conceptual and Tactical. The components of these five categories are being
drawn from all three internal arts and then implemented based on relative utility.

INSIDE KUNG-FU: Are there any internal qualities in the teaching, or is the teaching strictly external?

MIKE PATTERSON: The internal qualities of power generation are brought in almost immediately. Of course the initial phases
must, by necessity, focus on structure and alignment. Otherwise, attempting to teach power generation is futile at best.
The more abstract qualities, such as 'intention' are infused later on.

INSIDE KUNG-FU: You have gained quite a reputation as a successful san shou/kuoshu fighting coach. How can RSPCT make
your fighters even better?

MIKE PATTERSON: RSPCT is not about competitive fighting, although it would certainly prepare you for such an endeavor. The
goal of RSPCT is to go beyond competitive fighting and reach into street encounters as well. A person completing the first
three tiers of the program will have learned the lion's share of the information my teams learned and utilized in the
competitive arena. The final two tiers are designed to mature additional skills useful for the street environment.

INSIDE KUNG-FU: Do you need a background in the internal styles to become proficient in RSPCT?

MIKE PATTERSON: No. It is designed as a "stand alone" package.

INSIDE KUNG-FU: Do you have to come from a Chinese style background, or can RSPCT be equally appreciated by a
practitioner of any style?

MIKE PATTERSON: I believe the general concepts can be gleaned by practitioners of all backgrounds. The most common
obstacle for many is the fluid method of power generation found in the internal arts body mechanics.

INSIDE KUNG-FU: How long will it take for the averaged martial
artist to gain proficiency in the RSPCT program? In other words, is there a timetable to proficiency?

MIKE PATTERSON: In training teams for competition, I was successful in taking people with little or no background and
turning them into fighting champions inside of one year. I am shooting for a similar timetable in this program regarding
the first three tiers of training. I anticipate two years for completion of all five tiers of training.

Biography

SHR FU MIKE PATTERSON has over 38 years of Martial Arts experience, 30 years teaching the Internal Styles of Hsing I,
Pa Kua, Tai Chi and Liou He Ba Fah. He is the highest ranking teacher in the United States Shen Lung Tang Shou Tao
Association, and is Head of the United States Branch. Shr Fu Patterson was the All Taiwan Full Contact Martial Arts
Champion in 1975-1976, an all inclusive contest open to all styles and all ranks. He was the youngest champion ever in the
history of the event and retired undefeated. He has since trained Numerous World, International and National Full Contact
Champions himself. He served as the West Coast Regional Director of the United States Chinese KuoShu Federation from 1996
to 2001 and now serves as a special advisor for the same organization on the internal martial arts, he was Menís Coach of
the 1996 World Team U.S.A.. Inside Kung Fu Magazine chose him as The 1997 Coach Of The Year, having trained so many
successful Full Contact KuoShu Fighters for competition. He has trained a total of 25 World, International, National and
Regional Chinese KuoShu Full Contact Champions between the years of 1994 and 2000. He is currently a senior ranking member
of the Shen Lung Tang Shou Tao Association. He resides and teaches in San Diego, California.