It is a must if you have an Intel i810 or above GPU. While those running xorg-server-1.7.7-r1 can get around that as there are drivers available that allow you to skirt the issue if you don't want to run with KMS, even that older version of xorg-server runs better with the KMS enabled drivers.

Intel KMS has been stably functional since the .35 kernel family. All other sources up to that point had some sort of strangeness associated with them. Last I read, ATI is finally catching up in the working with KMS department. As of this writing, it appears that the nouveau drivers (open nVidia drivers) do not require KMS. The nouveau drivers remain in the Staging Drivers section as of linux-3.0.3. I prefer the nvidia-drivers package, even if it does taint the kernel.

I get this each time I use a kernel seed in response to a new kernel generation because I'm too dumb to remember to enable CONFIG_MISC_DEVICES when going from 2.6.38 to 2.6.40 (or 3.0 to 3.1) :
warning: (AX88796_93CX6 && RTL8180 && RTL8187 && ADM8211 && RT2400PCI && RT2500PCI && RT61PCI && RT2800PCI && R8187SE) selects EEPROM_93CX6 which has unmet direct dependencies (MISC_DEVICES)
warning: (AX88796_93CX6 && RTL8180 && RTL8187 && ADM8211 && RT2400PCI && RT2500PCI && RT61PCI && RT2800PCI && R8187SE) selects EEPROM_93CX6 which has unmet direct dependencies (MISC_DEVICES)
It appears the devices under MISC_DEVICES will be autoselected if MISC_DEVICES is enabled. Is it worthwhile for you to enable MISC_DEVICES in the seeds?_________________Defund the FCC.

Just turning on misc devices doesn't turn those devices on. It just allows you to see the choices that exist.

As for the error telling you about those unmet "dependencies", that seems to be a product of all the sources since the .38 series. The use of make oldconfig should take care of most of that stuff when doing the initial move. I'm not sure whether it's a bug, or whether it's a new "feature" of the kernel. I did finally get things to mellow out, but I had the same thing happen with this machine while setting up for Intel KMS, something that shouldn't be fraught with so many warnings.

Oh well, if the kernel didn't break during changes, there'd be no need for bugzilla, now would there?

I did use oldconfig. It may have partly succeeded as enabling MISC_DEVICES and selecting it showed EEPROM_93CX6 already enabled which was not the case last time. How can a Texan move to California? _________________Defund the FCC.

I'm an Ohioan that moved to Texas to get an idea about living in a real city. Now, I am going to Cali to see if I can find there what I didn't here. I'd prefer not to move at all, but that decision is out of my hands. Now, it's just about being able to hang on until I can get established.

Hopefully at the new location you will have a more reliable internet connection than what your previous beloved cable company provided. _________________The MyWord KJV Bible tool is at http://www.elilabs.com/~myword

Actually, when directly connected to the cable modem using DHCP, it's amazingly fast. I am probably going to have to invest in a new wireless router, as I think that's where a lot of my Internet issues arise. If I wasn't one who likes to take my laptop around the house...since it is portable, it wouldn't be an issue.

I know the place I am going does have wireless, so there's that. I'm hoping I can tap their main line and that way, I don't mess with them. I'm also going to have to do more experimentation with DNS. Ah, the fun of setting up in a new place.

Because of the way I am connected, it is pretty easy for me to set up my internet connection anywhere, wireless or wired. My big problem with a move is tearing apart all the cabling between the equipment, packing all the boxes to the new location, and then setting it all back up again. That's usually good for about a week! _________________The MyWord KJV Bible tool is at http://www.elilabs.com/~myword

I have to ask someone about setting up my web server here. I finally got most of my stuff moved to this temporary abode. Now it's time to fire up the web site so my users can find me. If not, well, I still have the mirrors...and I will be updating later on this evening. I have to set portage back up to work without a server. No biggie.

You plug it in, switch it on ... :)
and fix your DNS to point kernel-seeds.org to you new static IP, then wait for DNS to propagate around the world.
If you have a dynaimc public IP it gets a bit more complicated._________________Regards,

NeddySeagoon

Computer users fall into two groups:-
those that do backups
those that have never had a hard drive fail.

I know all that. At the moment, it's about physical access to the modem/router. I'm hoping to get all that cleared up as soon as the dust settles on this move. I'm still in the last gasps of moving things, so I have yet to get fully grounded here. Hopefully, I will get things rolling by the weekend.

The main site remains down. Lots of things going on, the least of which is getting the main site back up and running. It was a good Labor Day, though. There was even some new source code in portage today. I've just uploaded .configs for 2.6.32-hardened-r67 and 3.0.4-hardened-r1 in both x86 and x86_64 flavors. Enjoy!

I cannot begin to tell you all how much I hate the Linksys BEFSR81! It has been the bane of my existence for most of this day. The wireless access point, WAP54G sucks just as much, especially when it's old, and the one with which I am working, it was around when Methuselah was in diapers.

Anyway, I went through all that to say that the main site is back up. For now, it seems using the IP address is the way to go, as my DNS service is being really weird for some unknown reason. I will be attempting to get things in better order tomorrow. For tonight, I invite all my friends and users back to the main site.

pappy, question, is there any seed which is best for a desktop that serves as multi seat?_________________Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein
ProjectFootball

Zen sources are still the way to go for raw speed. I'd recommend something in the .38-.39 range. PF sources also contain the BFS scheduler, which is really a good thing for raw-dog speed. Having used the PF sources, they are as close as you can get to zen, and still have a fairly regular update schedule.

Zen sources are still the way to go for raw speed. I'd recommend something in the .38-.39 range. PF sources also contain the BFS scheduler, which is really a good thing for raw-dog speed. Having used the PF sources, they are as close as you can get to zen, and still have a fairly regular update schedule.

Cheers
Pappy

never felt comfortable with zen, not sure I want to use them, more over, I'm using ati foss and vmware so I'd like to be with the latest kernel possible for better support of my cards.

I've tried BFS scheduler when I tried ck sources, I got worst response time than with gs doing the same thing. unless I've missed configured something._________________Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein
ProjectFootball

While I have had issues with zen sources, I've never seen a reason to not use them, even if they drag their heels updating things. In this situation, you might need to do some experimentation to get things tweaked.