hesw already strugglin to keep it! cro worked with the starting D all through minicamps and OTAs while Flo was out doin speed drills in florida, which btw i doubt he was even doin anything, that lazy bastard

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False.recent reports like from last week said Cro was still inconsistant so him being at a minicamp means notihing. You wont win a job at a minicamp. That isnt where it happens.

As for doing his workouts in Florida.....c-mon now, that isnt a very smart statement. Flo is a hard worker and Moss trains hard. That you can say about him. Osgood goes to those as well.

Anyway, Flo easily keeps his starting job as he is always the one that shines in TC every year and i dont see why that wouldnt carry over thru preseason.

Cro might have more natural ability, but he seemed lost on every play i saw him in last year.

If florence had better hands, he would of hand 10 INTs last year, but that just shows how great his anticipation was last year and how perfect he was in his coverage. He was always in the right spot and usually made a play on the ball

At this point,

Florence >>> Cromartie

Now a year or two from now it MIGHT be the other way around with Cro being a MUCH better player, but for right now id take florence over him in heartbeat

I voted for Flo. Cro might win the job at some point this year but I think he is probably still a season away from earning the job. I do think he makes strides this year and with Flo looking for a big payday and Jammer coming off a great year we might just have a secondary to brag about should we find the missing link at SS.

And if Flo does keep his job, it wont be Easily Kept. And you cant say Flo is consistant. He got the same crap thrown his way as Jammer did but for some reason Jammer did better.

i think Cro will have the Job.
and if Flo keeps his Job then he probably earned it through a hard fought battle, with Cro

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I think Flo will start in Chicago, but I vote for Cro because he will undoubtedly pick up ground during training camp and I am convinced the two will begin splitting time soon after the season starts, with Cro on the field the most by the time the season ends. I don't much care who starts, because whoever does will make us better than last year simply because of the sharpening of skill that competition does. They will push each other hard this year, harder than any other two players in camp in line for a starting position. I tend to favor Cro simply because of his edge in intelligence. Either way, I'm lovin' our nickel package. The rest of the league is underrating our receivers and our DB's this year.

FAST FACT: The Chargers train at their home facility and stay at a hotel less than a half-mile away, so they are familiar with the local offerings. Most players dislike the food they get year-round, so many nights find them having walked across a busy intersection to one of the many fast food places nearby. If they want to give up nap time, they can also go home to pay bills, play with dog or, um, see the wife.

TOP PRIORITY: A team that went 14-2 and led the league in scoring will continue (with urgency, now) its offseason task of connecting with a new head coach and mostly new coaching staff. There are tweaks to the offensive and defensive systems that should not be too difficult to grasp, especially after numerous OTAs. But this is where the new stuff is really installed, and time is running short. The offense has fallen in love with Norv Turner. The defensive players are still adjusting to new coordinator Ted Cottrell.

CAMP CONFIDENTIAL: Since reigning MVP LaDainian Tomlinson all but takes training camp off, all eyes will be on QB Philip Rivers to see just how improved he is since his first season as starter. Rivers is bigger, and others on the offense sense that what was precociousness has burgeoned into wisdom. It is expected Rivers will see the field better, feel even more comfortable speaking up and possess the presence of mind to perform better in crucial situations. ...

The big battle at camp will be at strong safety, where S Clinton Hart appears to have all but sewed up the job. The coaching staff does not expect second-round draft pick Eric Weddle to be ready, and Bhawoh Jue will just be getting back to complete health. Plus, Hart had an outstanding offseason and has by far the best ball skills among the safeties.

CB Antonio Cromartie will have to continue to make the big plays he already does in practice and cut down on the blatant mistakes he makes in coverage in order to take over the starting job from Drayton Florence. Cromartie's speed is exciting, and his hands are the best among the corners. But he gets lost in coverage too often still, while Florence has developed into a shutdown type to complement Quentin Jammer on the other side. ...

While his tackles won't matter until September, fans will be watching every move Matt Wilhelm makes. He is taking over at inside linebacker for Donnie Edwards, who led the team in tackles each of the past five seasons and was also among the most popular players in team history. His departure -- perceived as the result of a squabble between he and general manager A.J. Smith -- leaves Wilhelm unfairly having to live up to a lot. One thing that should be evident once pads are on and the intensity picks up is Wilhelm's instincts in coverage. Edwards' were second-to-none among linebackers. ...

One big change at camp will be a head coach who doesn't give emotional speeches or end every practice with an attempt at motivation. Players expect camp under Turner to be intense but focused to reflect a veteran team that knows how to have success.

Kevin Acee covers the Chargers for the San Diego Union-Tribune.

who mentioned Moss?

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Hmm, well since you arent aware of some of the players rituals i'll share. Randy Moss holds a camp every year prior to the start of football season and some players attend because it is very challenging and gets them in top shape to go into training camp. Florence attends it every year as has Kassim Osgood.

And if Flo does keep his job, it wont be Easily Kept. And you cant say Flo is consistant. He got the same crap thrown his way as Jammer did but for some reason Jammer did better.

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Thats your opinion. I dont think Cromartie is close to being as good as Florence right now and yes, Flo is more consistant. It will be a battle for sure and Cro will make some good plays but imo he just isnt ready to be a fulltime starter.

It takes a huge leap of faith to think that Cromartie can improve his play enough to overtake Drayton Florence.

It's not that I don't think Cromartie will improve and develop. Just that Florence is a young player himself, his potential yet to be fully-realized.

Florence isn't going to lose his job unless his play regresses. Which it won't.

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Faith has nothing to do with it.

Flo isnt the all pro player everyone is painting him. It takes some really big rose colored glasses to think we are set at that position with him playing. Stagnation is good for you perhaps, me I want to see players challenged and them striving for the next level.

no i dont kno ever NFL players offseason routines, yes that is my opinion,and are theyre any more sources because one article doesnt speak for the rest.

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Its the only one that is easy for me to find. Acee is somebody who covers the team along with Trotter so altho it isnt coming from AJ himself, its as good a source as we will get from somebody who has actual contact with the team.