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Re: The slip and slide to infanticide.

Originally Posted by JustinC939

Funny you mention that because there is a link between abortions and reduced crime.

Less people, less crime?

It's not as if any lawmaker saw this and said we need to write a bill to legalize infanticide. The article is just somebody's extreme opinion. And I'm sure that if you look hard enough, you'll find alot of extreme opinions on the internet.

Exactly.

I think people like to examine the extremes to make themselves feel "normal".

Re: The slip and slide to infanticide.

It seems to me far-left intellectuals do a lot of intellectual exercises involving what amounts to killing and genocide.

But the far right never does anything that leads to killing people like bombing abortion clinics and stuff....

As another election draws near; the G.O.P. are yet again filled with a stupid confidence that the they will win the White House. What they don't realize about people like Trump, Carson, and Cruz is that their rhetoric only resonates within an echo chamber, but not the American people. They live in an illusion of falsehood and distorted truth and only seek information and opinions that confirm these beliefs and instantly reject anything that contradicts them because only their opinions matter. Their notion of freedom is freedom for themselves and those alike to them, but not the rest of the country which has changed.
These are the reasons why the G.O.P is set to lose in 2016. And when that happens, rest assured that they will have myriad of conspiracy theories blaming everyone and everything from the liberal media, to Oprah, to welfare moms, and pretty much everyone but their own disgusting selves.

Re: The slip and slide to infanticide.

Originally Posted by tucker

It seems to me far-left intellectuals do a lot of intellectual exercises involving what amounts to killing and genocide.

OK, I give up: how can you tell that the writers of that paper were left-wing? Did they advocate a state-run service for the infanticide? Did they suggest giving power to the workers? Do you actually understand what left-wing means? As opposed to, say, liberalism? You know they're not the same thing, right?

Re: The slip and slide to infanticide.

Some more apples & oranges hypothetical logic but I guess you could say that’s true…

It's always apples and oranges when it's a comparison you don't like....

I don't have a problem with admitting there are some extremist assholes on the left.... But nobody here ever wants to acknowledge there is even one asshole on the right...

As another election draws near; the G.O.P. are yet again filled with a stupid confidence that the they will win the White House. What they don't realize about people like Trump, Carson, and Cruz is that their rhetoric only resonates within an echo chamber, but not the American people. They live in an illusion of falsehood and distorted truth and only seek information and opinions that confirm these beliefs and instantly reject anything that contradicts them because only their opinions matter. Their notion of freedom is freedom for themselves and those alike to them, but not the rest of the country which has changed.
These are the reasons why the G.O.P is set to lose in 2016. And when that happens, rest assured that they will have myriad of conspiracy theories blaming everyone and everything from the liberal media, to Oprah, to welfare moms, and pretty much everyone but their own disgusting selves.

Re: The slip and slide to infanticide.

Originally Posted by Meridian

OK, I give up: how can you tell that the writers of that paper were left-wing? Did they advocate a state-run service for the infanticide? Did they suggest giving power to the workers? Do you actually understand what left-wing means? As opposed to, say, liberalism? You know they're not the same thing, right?

Re: The slip and slide to infanticide.

When you learn, I'll stop teaching. Dutch's equations make for great cheap insults, but otherwise are wrong. I appreciate the slight degree of sarcasm in their quotation though. And to think that the Political Compass website is actually a US one, so at least some understand that there is little to no correlation between economic wing and moral beliefs. Although I'm impressed that Americans are so sure that liberals must be left-wing that they had to invent a new word for liberals who are right-wing just so that they could keep their politics training wheels on.

Re: The slip and slide to infanticide.

Originally Posted by Meridian

When you learn, I'll stop teaching. Dutch's equations make for great cheap insults, but otherwise are wrong. I appreciate the slight degree of sarcasm in their quotation though. And to think that the Political Compass website is actually a US one, so at least some understand that there is little to no correlation between economic wing and moral beliefs. Although I'm impressed that Americans are so sure that liberals must be left-wing that they had to invent a new word for liberals who are right-wing just so that they could keep their politics training wheels on.

More like you enjoy getting off on telling all of us that we're wrong. Admit it, Meridian, a part of you likes the idea of you being the smartest guy on the forum, dropping in here and educating us silly right-wing conservative Americans on how things really work, then disappearing.

In terms of American politics, Obama is on the left, the Democratic party is on the left, and Romney, Santorum and the Republicans are on the right. And quite frankly, unless we're discussing international issues, it's pointless to pretend otherwise. And I can provide 100 links to American scholars, newspapers and books where Republicans and conservatives are described as the American right-wing and Democrats, liberals and progressives are described as the American left-wing.

Any comparison of how the American political parties lineup on a Europe/international political spectrum is purely an academic argument.

Re: The slip and slide to infanticide.

I dont get pro-life people really. Although abortion is an issue that doesnt concern me much.

Why do you want to bring unwanted children into the world? I mean I can get not wanting to KILL, even though personally I find children disgusting lol. However its just torture to bring a kid into a family that doesnt want him/her, and wont take care of it. It just creates criminals and bad people because of bad upbringings. And the adoption process is beyond screwed up.

I see it as a mercy killing really, and yeah we already do have too many people on this planet so why bring people in that arent wanted.

Unlike traditional conservatives or liberals I support abortion, death penalty, and euthanasia. So i'm consistent

Re: The slip and slide to infanticide.

Originally Posted by Keven

More like you enjoy getting off on telling all of us that we're wrong.

As if anyone in this subforum was any different at all, eh Keven?

All life is equal and it starts at conception... unless you're gay, or muslim, or an abortion doctor, or poor, or whatever is the new flavor of the week. I support abortion and I don't support the death penalty, but more for reasons of wrongful execution and cost to the state than anything else. I don't believe thats a logical fallacy, and if it is then right-wingers need to admit the "we should just nuke everyone in the middle east" type crap that gets spewed is nothing short of the same.