>>17666Nice tips Zoor,A worthy start for your newest developement,I was hoping for something more integrated into the .org chan,but nonetheless, appreciation for your efforts as always.Now to just put my flashes into a collection... will take a while :3

The hardest part is to determine the flash Index number, as sometimes there are lots of flashes with the same name, and there's (nearly) no way to determine which one the swf at hand is, without uploading it somewhere, so it comes up at the front page (´д｀)

>>17666Minor, butwould be great if you can create a new bundle within the editor on the collections page.Also, I suppose it would NOT be possible to have a (sub)bundle within another bundle (only one layer of categorization)?An other suggestion would probably be a "hidden" bundle, that contains files only viewable in the editor, but this would kinda run contrary to the idea of that system.

Sounds like a whole lot of effort, so I go with:Just needs a way to delete files from the collection as whole.

I made .org to be separate from .com and .net, the idea was that if I wanted to I could put it on a different server. Since I'd like people to be able to make collections with all flashes and not just the ones they upload it kinda have to be this way. But I could add some link here on .org that tries to search for the flash on .com to see if it has been archived.

If you're having problems determining the flash index number of a swf file you have on your computer you can try to search for the number of bytes of that file. For example if you search for ">7 966 524" you will only find flashes that has been seen with a file size of exactly 7966524 bytes. That should narrow things down.

Concerning deletion... yeah it's not possible yet. Haha, pretty basic stuff I know but it's a planned feature. Kinda rushed to get this collection thing out there even before everything was implemented. I plan to have checkboxes for each flash, if checked the flash is "hidden" (counts as deleted). That way you could create a "hidden bundle" by just making a regular bundle and then set every flash in it as hidden. The bundle will count as empty and won't show up outside edit mode. I'll probably make it so that if you name a bundle "Hidden" the flashes added into it will default as being hidden.

Creation of new bundles from edit mode is also one of those planned features, by the way. As is swapping places of the bundles.

I'm not planning to support bundles within bundles at the moment as it would require a bit of re-coding. But it's not impossible to arrange something like that in the future, maybe, if more people need it.

Another feature I'd like to get in is bundle links at the top of a big multi-page, multi-bundle collection which will give you the ability to browse only a certain bundle in the collection if you want to. A simple little filter for searching in the existing collections and their bundles might be useful to add later as well, if the number of collections grow plenty.

>>17681sounds awesome!Well, I'll retire for now.Simple as it is, this new feature is really a great extension to the server.I always hesitated to make a good private collection, because of the archive, so I missed a lot of good flashes.But on the other side the .com engine isn't so reliable anymore when it comes to classics, since at some point it grew out exponentially and people started to post crap version of swf just to bypass the post limit.

tl;dr - a great way to have your own Flash Collection, always accessible.

By the way, you also haven't added the collections to the bottom of the .com page yet ;)

>>17682It will be linked to from the front page of .net since that domain is mostly meant for user generated content (and the .net front page needs to get a boost in purpose, I have more plans for it later though). I'll also link to it at the bottom of all pages, among the nodes that are there right now. Just haven't bothered yet since it's linked to from all the pages on com/net right now due to the announcement. Much later, if collections take off as a thing, there might also be featured links in the top navigation somewhere to the most useful collections available (I'm thinking maybe one or two chosen at random at a time).

>>17721An option to toggle a collection between private and public was a good idea, I'll add it to the TODO list.

>>17800Ah you mean on the flash's home page. Didn't understand your request at first. Sorry but I won't add any file names that haven't actually been seen for the flash. It's easy enough to just rename the flash yourself, isn't it? Just double click on the flash's ID number before you click any of the links leading to eye.swfchan.com and press CTRL+C to put its ID in clipboard.

>>17828I think the order numbers will remain global for the whole collection, complicates things a bit if they aren't and it doesn't add that much of a benefit.

What do you mean by "increase the Order number by an extra digit"? Do you mean that when a new flash is added the order number is increased by 100 instead of the current 50?

>>17856Nah, just tried to point out that the number can't get high enough for me to conveniently sort and arrange them. I would need an extra 0 at the maximum number (someting like 6000? -> 60000). Don't know how much of a hassle that would be. It always tells me I got it too high so it was lowered.

fyi: My system would look like this,First digit is bundle number - then two digits sort number and an extra digit if you have to squeeze something in between or if flashes are connected in a way (or if more than 100 swfs per bundle yo).But this way would then only allow for 5 bundles.

>>17858Ah okay, right now you can only set the order number 50 higher than the current highest order number. It's like that so that someone doesn't immediately set the number close to the max that can be stored in the database field, then a higher storage number can't be had when a new flash is added.

So, there is no maximum order number, just that you need to increase the order number by 50 at a time (60000 can be used if you have 1200 flashes in your collection).

>>17943Each bundle has a number (0, 1, 2, 3...) which is written like [#] next to the bundle title in edit mode. Each flash has a bundle number you can set. Just change that number and press save. Now that flash will in the bundle that has that number within its brackets. 0 is always the first bundle, 1 the second bundle and so forth. Maybe I should change it so that 0 is not used and the count starts on 1? I'll add it to the TODO.

Or maybe you mean that you can't actually collect the flashes that you want in the first place? Then I need to know what error messages you are getting. Though doesn't the error messages themselves contain a clue to what's wrong?

>>17690Just changed the global message at the top of the site so it was time to integrate the real link to the collections somewhere on the site. Upon actually thinking about it I've placed that link into the main menu instead of on the .net front page, so people's collections get more exposure. The .net front page will remain as it is for the time being (only showing recommendations).

In order to prevent the menu from looking too cluttered only "C" is printed out instead of the whole "COLLECTIONS" word. It would bring the text too close to the main logo otherwise. Two • were added to make it more eye-catching plus that I thought it looked pretty ugly to only have "C" as the link. Tried to see how it aligned as "COLS" or "COLLS" but I think it looks better this way, even if it seems weird at first glance. I'm open to suggestions though if anybody can think of something that would fit better as the link text.

I've changed the layout of the collections so that two columns are used instead of one. Since most people doesn't use any kind of description this will cause there to be a lot less empty space on the page. It should give a better overview at the cost of some people maybe missing a flash if they aren't looking thoroughly while scrolling.

The number of flashes per page has been increased from 100 to infinity as well, it makes it more pleasant to browse through a collection when subsections aren't cut off in the middle. Since some collections have hundreds of flashes I might try to improve thumbnail load times down the road by bundling them together into a single image and using CSS to split them. Right now though each thumbnail is downloaded separately as normal.

>>41633Both those things should be true, maybe your browser is still using the old stylesheet file? Try pressing F5 on a collection page and it should download the new one. If it doesn't work let me know what browser you're on.

The description was always dark red though, the bundle/subcollection title is orange (as well as the lines leading down from it). The "comment"-text below the red description is plain black. I might move around those lines later since it could be a little confusing right now which link belongs to which thumbnail. And I plan to make URLs put in the comment text clickable someday.

Seems strange that the orange border goes across the left collumn entirely, but only the right flash thumbnail, so that the right collumn description is left outside... to me at least.

Also still waiting pretty please on possibility to edit:* the order of subcategories (I mean you COULD just move ALL the files in one and rename it , but...)* and also mass edits of files, because I want to keep a peculiar number order and don't want to edit every single one, save, scroll down again, repeat...maybe even make it remember the screen position after an edit?* number order without any limits (like when the number is too low to the next one, etc.)

Also, I encounter some problems with my passphrase every now and then (doesn't recognize it, then I reload some times and it works, pretty randomly), but only on the add button; never on the edit on collections one, for some reason...

>>41783I will probably move the orange border, it is a bit confusing right now. I'll also try to do the other things you suggested, although I'm not sure what you mean by "number order without any limits". I can't think of anything that could be wrong with the add button regarding the password but I'll look into it!

>>41873Thanks! That would finally motivate me to kinda clean that mess up, a bit more.Can't say I'm a fan of the new layout, but it certainly helps to quickly search for a single flash.About the passphrase, maybe it would help to state [that there are non_unicode letters included]. Maybe that's messing with the hash?Finally, about the order number, as previously stated:When f.e. putting in a very high number, that is far from any other existing number,the edit says "...successfull... Though the given sort order number was too high and was lowered."

>>51173Did you get it to work? Because I see a new collection now. Or are there still problems?

Although looking at the timestamps it must (might?) not be your collection after all since it was created before you made that post. Where exactly do you get the "Flash ID is missing" error? I think you can only get it when visting flash.asp with no ID number in the URL, have looked through all code related to the collections themselves and the string "miss" was missing.

Couldn't find anything wrong, new collections can be created and new flashes can be added to them afterwards.

Anyway, I took this opportunity to finally change the layout of the collections again. It doesn't look as unorthodox now.

The list of collections have also been changed a little bit, layout-wise the fields now have fixed width. Also, henceforth 3 instead of 4 flashes is needed in order to appear on the list. This makes a whopping 43 new rows appear on the list and although I still think three items doesn't make much of a collection most of them did seem to be genuine attempts.

For the record: Right now there are 73 collections with just 2 flashes in them and 664 with a single flash, many of which are simple tests but oddly enough there's plenty of those that appear to have a legit theme or thought behind them. 4 collections have 0 flashes, meaning the owners hid/removed all flashes from them.

After today's change there are 276 listed collections and 741 unlisted ones.

>>41783The "number order without any limits"-issue have been taken care of, ordering numbers can be freely used up to 2000000000. I agree that the other two issues you pointed out would be nice to have taken care of as well but that would take more time to do than I have for today.

>>51192I was getting redirected to flash.asp, however I typed in some random password and the dialogue appeared correctly this time. Perhaps I somehow was using a key that someone else already was using?

The only real problem I still encounter is as listed in >>41783 the problem with getting the passphrase to work. It's quite an endeavour sometimes.I don't really know what causes it.The best way to describe it: it just works randomly.>So when I go to a flash get page: there's the "collect" button.>I press it and type my pass and then the "-->-" button.>Sometimes that's just it.>Most of the time though it says "No collections are associated with this key.">I then reload the page.>click collect and -->->repeat (no changes to password)>Then it finally recognizes it after a varying amount of attempts.>I thiiink it works better when I already accessed it once per session.>It never works with just trying the "-->-" button again. I have to reload the page.

I still can't reproduce any problems with the password field in neither Firefox nor Chrome but I did find something that I had forgotten to remove in the JavaScript that could cause issues. It's been fixed, does it work better now for you guys? Don't forget to specifically press F5 before clicking COLLECT to make sure the new global script file is downloaded.

I tried again using firefox 45.9.0 ESRWith a random password starting a new collection:hit collect link -> entered password -> hit the "-->--" button -> got redirected to http://eye.swfchan.com/flash.aspThis behavior persisted for 3 attempts. I went back to the flashes page before attempting again. Might be worth noting that tried collecting before "getting" the flash, which I've been able to do before.

Same behavior persisted in a private window.

I tried one last thing of disabling ad blocker and for some reason that worked. I don't know how the ads or the ad blocker are interacting with your collection framework to produce the redirect to that empty though.

>>51268Please always turn off any Ad/Script-Blocker in advance to reporting new information, because those have been noticed to cause problems here and there in the past.It's kinda their job to mess with scripts. And swfchan now being on the blacklist for Blockers sure didn't help either.

>>51268The adblocker explains why you got the "Flash ID is missing" error: Since easylist decided to block the whole eye subdomain the script failed when you tried to fetch your collections and the form acted like a regular form, reloading flash.asp without the flash id.

It doesn't explain why æ haven't had it working before though, since he mentioned it working randomly in >>41783, which was before the easylist issue. Hopefully æ sees this soon and can tell me if he still has problems or not with the last change. Since it doesn't seem to crash for him I don't think his adblocker (if any) is the issue though and it might be more of a security thing in his browser. My next idea is basically just to change the password field to a regular field.

>>51274I've been trying to contact easylist for three weeks now without any reply back on any of their contact addresses, using two different e-mail accounts to send just in case.

Honestly it's pretty obtuse to block a key part of someone's site without even listening to what he has to say for himself. Ironically it hasn't actually hurt the site's income either since people need to turn off their adblockers now, which should be the opposite of what the people running easylist would want you to do.

I really can't fix issues caused by easylist myself without replacing the whole subdomain and while this doesn't hurt the site's income I'd much rather see more people with adblock than less without adblock. In the long run it's not good for the site's exposure, especially in these days of dwindling flash support. If easylist don't answer me soon I'll be making an announcement asking people to help out nagging them to whitelist eye.swfchan.com again, I'm coming to my wits end.

>>51295No, I'm sorry, nothing changed for me.To be honest it has been like that since the beginning.>(tfw still added 1062 files)Guess my passphrase must be causing it then.I only tried it in Firefox I think, no other browsers, but I have been using multiple firefox versions over several different PCs and I didn't have any Blockers of any kind installed back then (I have them now, but I disable them on swfchan).

>>51337You're doing fantastic work with your collection, definitely the best one around!

I've changed the script now to use a plain text field instead of a password field. The field is thin and the letters are big to give similar protection as before from potential prying eyes. The browser is also instructed not to remember anything that is typed into the field.

I'm bad at this, I need to insert flashes in between one another for organization but I'm quickly running out of numbers and would have to change a bunch of values which is a lot of effort. Would it be possible to implement decimal support or something where it keeps the current flash order but expands the values? e.g 200-201-202-203-204 to 200-250-300-350-400

>>51395The database field needs integers and rather than fiddling with that I decided to change it so that you may now have duplicate order numbers. If two flashes have the same order number (and are in the same bundle inside the collection) the order they appear in is a bit uncertain, though it will always stay the same once saved. So now you can use the same order numbers and only move around the flashes that really needs it. Hope this is okay, the alternative was to reorder all of the following order numbers after a duplicate had been entered and I felt that it could put unnecessary stress on the database (it would also take a little longer for me to code than this change did, hehe).

>>51346Firstly, thanks.I am kinda flustered that you like it. And don't think I didn't see that awkward recommendation on 4chanlink.org back then, heh.Though I fear at this point it really just degenerated into my personal taste collection and it's really untidy (all that uncategorized stuff).

But more important: Nope. Still nothing about the behaviour changed, sorry.I only tried it quickly with one single flash, but it looks all the same.And that new text field entry looks very unaesthetic. It might be best to get rid of it again (not able to see amount of characters entered and all).

Really do appreciate the effort! I get what you did, but it looks like it doesn't work and will affect other users.

>>51545>mfw 4chanlink just redirects to ads nowWhat an end. Makes me wonder how much traffic the domain still sees after all these years, maybe I should have kept all my old domains and just redirected them myself now that I think about it. Doubt it would have made enough difference to reduce the ads on swfchan though.

I've restored the field to a regular password type now. I really want to get to the bottom of this sometime, how it just randomly works on and off. Maybe there's some unusual character in your key that Firefox encodes differently from time to time? Let me know if you want to change key if you think it could be the root of the problem.

Do you think it would be possible to add a history page or something to collections? I'd like to see the order flashes were added in with most recently added first. When looking over larger collections that update over time, like the f_classics one, only the newer ones are important to me since I've seen all of the old ones before.

There's now a new.gif image next to the flashes that have been collected in the last 72 hours. The very latest addition will always have it regardless of how long ago it was collected. Next to the image there is also "++" or "+++" in text, to be able to find the new additions easily with CTRL+F.

>>59115Wow thanks! I really like that "New" graphic, one doesn't see those sorts of images as part of a website too often.I know that you've got other stuff planned and probably added this in as a simple solution but please don't forget about expanding on it. For one it won't be as helpful when a collection is updated frequently and one doesn't check the collection very often.

Oh god, I didn't think anyone would actually browse this collection.Man, I hate the fact that I wasn't able to think about typing in ⁄ f ⁄, just created it on a whim in mere seconds.It's supposed to be a full collection, not something that updates regularely (like f.e. z0r). Everything is so messy and inconsistent. I only update it very randomly and sporadically, when I come across something that isn't in it already, though I seem to abuse it more to just be my personal collection due to lack of interest.But, thanks, I guess.

Btw, I'm always open to suggestions, but best keep that in another thread.

Also, Ants, still waiting for the ability to move bundles. (*´_ゝ｀)Cool feature though, with such a simple way of spotting new flashes.Now everyone will notice when I forgot to add that one very basic classic to the collection! :P

>>59132Special characters aren't allowed in the collection names so ⁄ f ⁄ wouldn't have worked. I made it pretty restrictive to simplify some stuff in the background and to guarantee non-escaped URLs, it's not even allowed to end with a number before the random "--###" that gets appended.

Also, that's a relief, so it didn't even matter what I typed in. It's not a problem, better to keep it simple, just thought that maybe ⁄ instead of / would have worked.I hate it how on /f/ the parser filters out all special characters too these days. No more zalgo, but still...