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I'm really disappointed in this thread. This discussion has hit 5 pages and there has been no breakdown into name calling and childish behavior. If this civility continues I'm going to have to contact one of the mods and have all of you banned for the rest of the off-season.

I'm really disappointed in this thread. This discussion has hit 5 pages and there has been no breakdown into name calling and childish behavior. If this civility continues I'm going to have to contact one of the mods and have all of you banned for the rest of the off-season.

I'm really disappointed in this thread. This discussion has hit 5 pages and there has been no breakdown into name calling and childish behavior. If this civility continues I'm going to have to contact one of the mods and have all of you banned for the rest of the off-season.

Sheesh!

Does this count?

Originally Posted by SteelerOfDeVille

If not, nice to meet ya, kettle...

Seriously, I believe that's a matter of posters who generally respect each other's opinions disagreeing on a topic. It's weird - I usually disagree with guys who I think are morons...

In fact, i contend that the dink and dunk encourages the secondary to cheat up, making it more difficult to run. in other words, the ineffective run game may well have been a result of the gameplan. when they add another occasional downfield throw this year (and hopefully have a healthier o-line) the run game will improve...

The run game was a function, mainly, of the o-line...

When the o-line was at the healthiest point, the Steelers produced 3 100 yard rushing games and averaged 4.7 YpC...

I'm really disappointed in this thread. This discussion has hit 5 pages and there has been no breakdown into name calling and childish behavior. If this civility continues I'm going to have to contact one of the mods and have all of you banned for the rest of the off-season.

Anyone concerned that Ben's YPA was down below his career avg? That seems to correlate with the effectiveness of an offense.

I made that point - they basically called it irrelevant!

In any event, yes, I'm concerned. And that wasn't a BA thin cuz it's career, so it also happened with Whiz, etc. HOWEVER, i suspect it'll be more in line with the other years this year. I like everything I'm reading about the two of them talking. Whether it turns into more deep balls or not, it does, in fact, mean Ben's on board, understands and considers the system reasonable... I'm actually of the opinion that if you like last year's first 8, wait'll you get a load of this year's offense.

In any event, yes, I'm concerned. And that wasn't a BA thin cuz it's career, so it also happened with Whiz, etc. HOWEVER, i suspect it'll be more in line with the other years this year. I like everything I'm reading about the two of them talking. Whether it turns into more deep balls or not, it does, in fact, mean Ben's on board, understands and considers the system reasonable... I'm actually of the opinion that if you like last year's first 8, wait'll you get a load of this year's offense.

Ben's career low YPA was second year under Arians, 7.0 (versus 7.3 last year).
We went 12-4 and won the SB.

Total team offense numbers were nothing special, frankly our overal offense is better when we run better. In years we dont run well the offense is always lower 15.
What IS interesting about that year is that while less prolific, Ben was never more "clutch".

When down he patiently moved the ball (pre-Wallace) with quicker strikes. Less attempts to get it all at once.
5 fourth quarter comebacks that year.

BTW our scoring went UP last year DESPITE an enemic run game, few turnovers and Ben missing three games.
Ben's YPA went down, TD percentage went up.
Yes, in this discussion, ypa made no difference in team success.

You know what did?
Points allowed- up from 227 to 315

Iteresting stat:
Steeler have not made a single playoff allowing 300 points in a decade.