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Apparently, U.S. military commanders believe Muslim lives are more important than American lives.

You know the “botched” Navy SEAL raid on Somalia over the weekend? The one over which Al-Shabaab is now claiming “victory” against the United States? Yes, that one. Well, it turns out that the SEALs could have carried out the mission and gotten their man, Al-Shabaab terrorist Abdikadir Mohamed Abdikadir a/k/a “Ikrima.” But, in the middle of the mission, their commander called off the raid because the SEALs were kicking terrorist butt, and the commander didn’t want any Muslim Al-Shabaab-supporting civilians and children harmed.

Yup, let’s hear it for putting Muslim lives–the lives of Muslims who support Islamic terrorists that murder Westerners–above American lives! Yay, America. Muslims always see this as a sign of weakness. And this corrosive “value for Muslim terrorist families’ lives” has afflicted America to its detriment since Clinton, through Bush, and now to Obama. We didn’t capture Bin Laden when we had the chance before the 9/11 bombings because he was with women and children and Arab Muslim princes. We didn’t carry out several necessary operations in Iraq and Afghanistan to save American soldiers’ lives because Bush and Petraeus were obsessed with capturing Muslim “hearts and minds” (how did that work out?). And now this.

I’m sure the Navy SEALs who went on that mission and knew they could carry it out successfully are pissed and embarrassed by their “commander.” They should be, especially since their raid was painted by the Obamaniks and their media partners (including FOX News) as a “botched” mission. It was not. It was a called off mission. Called off right in the middle, putting the SEALs’ lives at risk for no reason. From today’s Wall Street Journal:

The U.S. commander on the ground called off the raid after an intense firefight that left several militants dead, officials said. A key factor in the decision was the presence of children in the compound and the determination that it wouldn’t be possible to capture Ikrima without inflicting civilian casualties, a U.S. official said.

One of Ikrima’s bodyguards was killed in the raid, according to a person close to al-Shabaab who withheld his name out of concern for his safety.

Al-Shabaab, at a news conference later Saturday in Barawe, said they had defeated the Americans and described the foiled raid as further proof of their strength after their assault at Nairobi’s Westgate mall last month.

Al-Shabaab, in the U.S. view, has been weakened by infighting and as a result of a joint counterterrorism effort by Kenyan, Ethiopian and African Union forces. The group has also been divided by infighting—with one faction focused on fighting the Somali government and the other looking to use the country as a staging ground for international attacks.

But the U.S. raid in Barawe was in planning before the Kenya mall attack, U.S. officials said, reflecting the view that the group’s militants remain part of the larger regional threat. The Westgate attack, too, has prompted U.S. officials to assess whether al-Shabaab is adapting under pressure.

Officials said the Navy SEALs were sent in to capture Ikrima because they believed he would have intelligence about possible future strikes by al-Shabaab.

A Kenyan intelligence report, viewed by The Wall Street Journal, said Ikrima was involved in two foiled plots in Kenya: a 2011 plan to strike government, diplomatic and military targets in Nairobi; and a plan in April of this year to attack an airport in northeastern Kenya.

Ikrima is associated with al Qaeda operatives who played roles in the 1998 bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi and the 2002 attacks on a hotel and airline in Mombasa, U.S. officials said. He also is one of the group’s key trainers inside Somali, according to the person close to al-Shabaab. . . .

Barawe, a town of about 20,000 people, is made of minority clans who have often been slighted by the government and so are relatively sympathetic to the insurgents, said J. Peter Pham, an Africa analyst at the Atlantic Council in Washington.

But, hey, we spared these “innocent civilian” terrorist sympathizers and wasted a gazillion dollars on a called-off Navy SEALs mission. And we gave them a PR treasure in getting to claim they beat America. Just terrific.

Oh, and remember, THIS. IS. ISLAM.:

In the al-Shabaab coastal stronghold of Barawe, where U.S. Navy SEALs carried out the raid, militants patrol the streets in pickup trucks, force local women into marriage, collect taxes from fishermen and act as judges, jailers and executioners. . . . Some residents said they stay quiet out of concern of reprisals. “Al-Shabaab uses the town like their capital,” said a resident who only gave his first name, Muhammad, out of concern for his safety. “They have set up their own radio station to use their propaganda and call the people for their Holy War.”

Al-Shabaab has a training camp just outside Barawe, residents said, and the town has come to be known as a base for the group’s foreign fighters from the U.S., Afghanistan and other countries. The militants can be seen in the afternoons riding in pickup trucks around town, Muhammad said.

Militants earlier this year beheaded some young men who they said were spying for the government, Muhammad said. Militant commanders forcefully take young women from the town as their wives, he said.

And, yet, we worried more about the lives of these people than we do the lives of Americans they murdered (and the Westerners they targeted and mass-murdered at the Westgate Mall in Nairobi, Kenya).

America, THIS is how you lose a war.

And, make no mistake, we are losing.

Exit Question: did U.S. Commanders call off the invasion at Normandy to avoid harming civilians? Did they call off our participation in World War II for that reason?

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I’m embarrassed for this country!

American soldiers’ lives were put at risk for nothing! Actually, killing some of their “civilians” would have led them to fear and respect us cuz that’s what they do! Showing the mercy of fools did not exactly win America street cred with Islamic terrorists. They have no moral scruples about killing us!

And sparing the lives of their womenfolk and children doesn’t make them feel more grateful or appreciative of us. They hate us no matter what we do or don’t do! Debbie is right, we’re losing the war.

Alhamidullah – praise Allah – America is more considerate of Muslims than the Muslims!

The SEAL commander apparently never heard of the term “collateral damage.” It happens in war; get over it! What the heck do they teach in the military academies these days?

Muslims don’t spare infidel lives out of a sense of political correctness or guilt feelings. This could have been rich payback for the Westgate Mall massacre!

I can only conclude America is a nation of wimps! No wonder Al Qaeda is laughing at us and somewhere beneath the sea the ghost of Bin Laden in grinning in satisfaction at America’s self-inflicted defeat.

Norman, I doubt very much this can be laid on the SEAL commander’s shoulders. Remember, he has to answer to a higher authority, namely The Muslim-In-Chief. Remember the generals and admirals The Low Life-In-Chief has muzzled and drummed out of the military.

I’d have completed the mission and taken my chances in front of a court-martial. I would say I took an oath to defend my country and my loyalty to that oath overrides obeying orders from superiors that are contrary to that oath!

In the military too, while respecting the chain of command is important, its even more important to defeat your enemies and uphold the honor of your country!

War is too important a matter to be left to generals, admirals and yes – Presidents – when American lives are at stake.

Watched this ever changing story unfold over the weekend. More confusion. America can’t do anything with a clear head anymore, because we are like a giant chicken without a head. Emphasis on CHICKEN.

There is a former attorney VERY close to me, whom I haven’t spoken to in over seven years. This person was part of the legal machine which brought many mostly West African Muslims in to the country under the guise of “political asylum.” Many may in fact be good, hard working people. Many others are most likely part of the ever widening network of “American” Muslims who will no doubt unleash havoc on our streets some day.

This attorney once said to me in a conversation that they were not Jewish. I pointed out that this attorney’s mother is Jewish, and that Judaism is an ethnicity as well as a religious belief, and that you cannot therefore disavow your DNA. This attorney had a copy of “The Noble Quran” alongside the Bible in their former office. I got an almost snide, very condescending, semi-sarcastic reply about how what I said could be fodder for quite a conversation.

With Jewish attorneys like that and their bleeding hearts crying out for some nebulous concept of “acceptance” while they practice their “good deeds” for society, how can we win anything anymore? We won’t. The collective will of the American psyche has been broke.

Sadly, all too correct Norman. And living among them, working among them, and being very close to at least one, I have had wayyyy too much first hand experience with the mentality. It’s what makes me very glad to be down here on the farm all alone most of the year at this point in my life.

Obama admin concerned about the lives of civilians? I’d be willing to bet that the family of Miriam Carey would have a differing viewpoint about that because Obama’s Feds sure didn’t have any problem whacking her down last week, right? Not black enough? Not Muslim enough??? Why wasn’t her life spared?

Debbie hasn’t written about that case yet but the police did the right thing in shooting her dead. Turned out she was a mentally deranged woman but she could have equally been an Islamic terrorist on a suicide mission. The police are paid to make instant judgment calls like that. And if you are not able to react instantly to a threat either against yourself, fellow cops or innocent people around you, you’re in the wrong line of work.

The DC cops did what the SEAL commandos wimped out on! They eliminated a clear threat to the public safety! I wish that our military was more concerned with the security of our country than it was with preserving the lives of Islamic terrorists and their ilk.

Oh great. SOOOOOO glad we publicized the reason for the call-off. Now that dude will permanently have babies strapped to him like his minions will have bombs strapped to themselves. I’d be willing to bet this was part of the rules of engagement (ROE) that came from at least the SecDef level if not the White House. And how did these guys get surprised at the number of fighters? Didn’t they do any intel work, know how many adults (all of whom would be armed) were in the village? That’s so great the we ensured the safety of the “innoncents” in this terrorist’s family and friends cell phone plan, but what about the safety of untold innocents (like those tortured to death in the mall in Kenya)? This smells like a rushed whack job that got called off when the chance of clean success dropped below 100% and the result (as you said) is another big PR headline for Al Qaeda.

We need to remember that what is officially reported in the news, and what actually transpires during a covert military operation, are two separate things, and at times, bear little resemblance to reality.

Thank you.

John Robert Mallernee
Armed Forces Retirement Home
Gulfport, Mississippi 39507

Kinetic Muslim terrorists (as opposed to potential Muslim terrorists) typically surround themselves with “civilians,” especially offspring. Naturally, this is a war crime, as “international law” tells us, and a military force is not held responsible for such collateral deaths; rather, those who installed these shields are.

Our soldiers in Viet Nam had their hands tied the same way. We were actually winning the Tet offensive quite handily (which could have ended the conflict soon afterwards), but the mainstream media led by Walter Cronkite said that we were losing badly – leading to demonstrations, the Chicago riots at the Democratic convention and another seven years of war. (A few years later Hanoi Jane put in her two cents)

This country is lost and made up of whiny babies. They should have leveled the compound. The evils of Islam NEVER backs down when their are children involved. They just kill the children. Example being the recent Mall attack, and other attacks around the world on a daily basis.

The US had better started making SUN Tzu mandatory reading or face the consequences. If you fight by some stupid set of rules including the Geneva convention versus an enemy that follows no rules than you will lose or bleed badly.

Glen-Ben, to bolster your argument I’d like peeps to recall the Islamic Jihadist Brother’s Tsarnaev placed their backpack bomb right in the vicinity of many young, Bostonian children at the 2013 Boston Marathon that turned into a Jihadi attack.

No remorse, or mitigation for young children just the love of waging Jihad. (And that freak “allah”.)

well i haven’t read the article too carefully(drunk) but this seems to overlook the inevitable civilian casualties that will as a matter of fact accumulate through shebangelot houris operations.
when you conduct these types of operations as PR exercises which they are obviously not(shebangalot understands PR better than those dweebs in the paint my fence white Huckleberry (joke is getting tired now) White house) this is what you get. and who’s to say they don’t want it?

I think this idea to minimize civilian causilities shows that the politicians are more worried about how the Administration looks to the world than they care about the lives of the soldies. Plus, as speaking as a former Marine, the JAG attorneys scrutinizing everyhing our troops are doing to the point of actual prosecution for supposed “war crimes.” Many of our enemies now know that all they have to do is put women and children as human shields and can get away with murder.

As a disclaimer I am not here saying to just go in blasting like Yosemite Sam when innocents are being held. However the US needs to get realistic and come to terms that innocents will get killed and thats whats f$cked up about these a##holes and they should not be treated with kids gloves. However people that lean left care more about others outside this country than their own citizens, so this Adminstration is no different.

Yes, instead of blaming the terrorists for using people as human shields, you blame the victims. You would have made a wonderful NAZI apologist. Your hatred is a compliment, since it comes from a coal black heart.

PO36: Are you aware that, accoring to the U.N., civilians hurt in conflict when used as human shields are considered casualties caused by the combatants using them as human shields, not as casualties of the combatants fighting them. This is war, PO36. War is where you kill the enemy until they can no longer attack your forces, or until they unconditionally surrender. This might not fit your PC-definition of “overseas contingency”, but it’s the definition used for thousands of years, and still used by our enemies, who, btw, intentionally target non-combatants. Perhaps if some of these human shields had been collateral damage in this raid, other non-combatants would think twice before allowing themselves to be used as human shields in the future. The light bulb beginning to flash yet?

There is no such thing as innocent women and children in the muslim world. They are just female terrorists and up and coming young terrorists. In fact, we should be concentrating on killing the women and children and making that a priority. Just start thinning out the herd.

Yes — and PO36, you are a schmuck. And a really stupid one, at that! Oh, and btw: if we were to accidentally kill the “innocent” women and children as part of collateral damage, it wouldn’t be us killing them, as you claim, “because they worship God in another way” — it would be a case of them dying ONLY because they were being used as human shields by the Scumbags who DO murder US and OUR INNOCENT CIVILIANS, precisely, and only, because WE worship “God in another way” from THEM. Get your head out from inside of your asshole, because your breath really stinks.

Hey POS36, I looooved using the A-bomb on the Japanese in WW2. I admit, though, that I loooooved bombing Dresden even more. Those where the days when the West took totalitarian ideologies seriously. I only regret not flattening the USSR immediately thereafter. The world would have been a better place.

Killing Muslims is, as Martha would say, a Good Thing. We should incentivize their reversion to a real religion by all means necessary. We should not risk a single soldier’s or civilian’s life to protect the lives of the enemy. Except for your life. I’d be happy to see you offed. Hey, how about taking this opportunity of visiting Egypt?

Bombs and drones are the only effective way to deal with these savages. Not one boot on the ground is a good thing. Drones and lots of air power can destroy the entire area and make the oil a lot easier to get to so wth is wrong with that already?
But an administration that closes off WW2 memorials and allows illegals to march on the capital is already never going to be a major player until something changes. Changes for the better. Fundamentally now, not like before during a certain campaign lol. Covering Mt. Rushmore and other travesties are unreal as well. It’s like nothing I have ever seen or expected. But I never thought I would see white people hunted by savages in the streets of both here and England, then debated for the causes either.

@litle timmy
Not sure if you are trying to denigrate the SEALs, but it sounds like it. You need to change that a little unless you want to sound like some Bill Maher follower. Which if you are, then please go back to the Huffpo.

All we do is cut the tail off the lizard while their “poor innocent” civilian breeders raise a new crop of radicalized young men to take their place. They tell their sons: “America killed your father now go get revenge”….

As completely sick as this sounds, even to me, the mother of a terrorist is a terrorist, his wife is also a terrorist, and her children are future terrorists.

The American public is not ready to wage the kind of war we would need to wage to actually defeat Isis or any other violent jihadi group (we would need b52’s) so we should leave them alone completely.

Cutting of the tail of the lizard every 5 years is just a waste of lives, money and untold suffering.