Unions Prepare for ‘Civil War’

Top Teamsters goon James R. Hoffa is threatening to bring “civil war” to Michigan in order to roll back the state’s new right to work law.

After Gov. Rick Snyder (R) signed legislation aimed at breaking the labor movement’s death grip on Michigan’s near-comatose economy, Hoffa took to CNN Tuesday to declare, “This is just the first round of a battle that’s going to divide this state.” He added, “We’re going to have a civil war in this state.”

Hoffa also flippantly compared the enactment of the legislation to the attack on Pearl Harbor 71 years ago in which more than 3,000 Americans died.

While the Michigan House of Representatives debated the worker freedom bill on Tuesday, state lawmaker Douglas Geiss (D) took to the floor.

“There will be blood,” he said. “I really wish we had not gone here … I do not see solace, I do not see peace.”

In fact blood has already been spilled. While he was trying to interview right to work opponents outside the legislature in Lansing two days ago, conservative comedian-activist Steven Crowder was beaten up by union members. Apparently the perpetrators were upset that Crowder was asking questions and trying to prevent them from demolishing a temporary shelter that the good government group Americans for Prosperity had erected at the site. Crowder suffered a chipped tooth in the attack.

The new Michigan law strikes a powerful blow for freedom of association in the Wolverine State. Right to work laws weaken unions’ monopolistic control of local labor markets and protect workers’ ability to control their own destinies, free from pressure applied by union bosses. Such legislation allows employees to work without being forced to pay union dues which are often funneled to Democratic candidates and various radical causes. Michigan is now the 24th state to enact right to work legislation.

The state’s new right to work law will benefit the 576,000 Michigan workers who are currently forced to pay union dues as a condition of employment, according to the National Right to Work Committee. “Study after study shows that the 23 states that have passed Right to Work laws have a huge advantage in creating jobs and expanding their economies,” the group said before Snyder signed right to work into law in his state.

Organized labor has been taking it on the chin lately in the Great Lakes region, the cradle of the labor movement. After Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker asked government union members last year to contribute a small percentage towards the costs of their pension plans and health care benefits, the Left falsely portrayed him as an enemy of democracy. The unions’ thuggish tactics failed to move lawmakers who approved the budget-balancing plan and Walker easily beat back a union-initiated recall election in June this year.

In last month’s election Michiganders gave a big thumbs-down to Proposal 2, a ballot initiative that would have amended the state constitution, further enshrining the power of unions and giving them greater control over state expenditures.

But none of this is good enough for Hoffa who would prefer to re-litigate the issue over and over until he obtains the result he desires.

“What they’re doing is basically, betraying democracy,” he said of Big Labor’s opponents. “If there’s any question here, let’s put it on the ballot and let the people of Michigan decide what’s good for Michigan.”

Of course Hoffa and his radical friends in the labor movement don’t actually give a farthing’s cuss about democracy. They care only about winning. To leftists the word democracy itself has a very different meaning than most Americans assign to it. To them democracy is Marxist mobocracy. And it’s only true democracy if they prevail. If they lose, it’s not democracy: the capitalists stole the election or took advantage of the people because they suffer from a mass “false consciousness.” Extremist rabble-rousers like Hoffa won’t claim democracy was served until the lawmakers or voters of Michigan do what leftists want them to do.

Hoffa’s rant comes as the activist Left becomes increasingly militant and cocky in light of the reelection last month of President Obama.

One George Soros-funded pressure group, the Campaign for America’s Future, launched a new website late last month aimed at promoting the same divisive Marxist tactics of class warfare that President Obama successfully used to distract the American people from his abysmal record.

Abandoning the use of political euphemism preached by radical organizing guru Saul Alinsky altogether, CAF named the new Internet site WageClassWar.org.

“America’s growing diversity and its increasingly socially liberal attitudes played a big role in this election,” CAF co-director Robert Borosage explained in a statement.

“But looking back, we are likely to see this as the first of the class warfare elections of our new Gilded Age of extreme inequality,” he said.

“More and more of our elections going forward will feature class warfare – only this time with the middle class fighting back. And candidates are going to have to be clear about which side they are on,” Borosage said.

“In 2012, candidates who supported the economic interests of the many over the few won their elections. Populism was the voice, but economic opportunity was the message. The pundits may wring their hands, but in the future it won’t be values voters, angry white men or soccer moms that win elections. It will be class war.”

Other than preaching class hatred and envy, it’s not entirely clear what tactics the new website will advocate.

Perhaps we should ask Steven Crowder to predict what those tactics might be.

Matthew Vadum is an award-winning investigative reporter and the author of the book, "Subversion Inc.: How Obama’s ACORN Red Shirts Are Still Terrorizing and Ripping Off American Taxpayers."

Ret. Marine

What is it these people really want. I am at a loss when contemplating this issue. Right-to-Work States have all proven to be the cure to the economic loss others have and still are facing, these people are threatening a "civil war" over a persons right to not be cohersed into employment, in this case union dues, while having no say ( where these very dues are directed towards the demonrat party at the tune of 92%) in the matter, as a condition of employment, what's wrong with this picture people. It appears far too many have gone over to the dark side of economic's and they threaten the rest of the people, who apparently just want the chance to work and support their families. Someone help me out here.Did I miss something?

mlcblog

They are at bottom tools of the commies. While we all agree that people should be paid a decent wage and that working conditions should be humane, the leftists have been running this show since its inception, if my history is correct. Long ago, it is sad to say that it was the radicals and rabble-rouser leftists who brought reform to the child labor practices of their time. Sad that this practice could not have been recognized for the evil that it was and changed without bloody (yes) union activity. However, now they continue to press on for imagined injustices like oh, say ONLY $37 an hour instead of $50 just to use some numbers. That's what they want. Underneath it all, from my observations when running around as one of and with the crazy (yes, in some cases) leftists, they hate America, family, but not apple pie. They are a destructive force in general. Having opinions pumps people up, I have noticed.

Gary Williams

I think both of you are missing the point. Hoffa's rant is not about union members, their rights or entitlements, it is simply about the diminishment of their empire. The teamsters are world famous for being a MOB controlled organised crime gang. They just don't like anyone cutting into their turf.
Simple as that.

Elaine

You know what they want. The unions have controlled Michigan for so long, to them it is unthinkable they would lose their power to continue to control the people and the laws of the state.

Mary Sue

They want the power. ALL of it. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The Union Leadership is the most left wing radical of the bunch and they're going full revolution power grab.

Chezwick

The "fiscal-cliff" cat-and-mouse game being played out by Obama and Bhoener is a side-show to a much more profound struggle occurring across the nation. I'm referring to the fight between the federal government, the Democratic Party, the Unions and the media on one side…and the Republican Governors representing the interests of the people on the other. It has an ebb-and-flow like any epic struggle….and the outcome is certainly not predetermined.

One thing is certain: State's Rights are an imperative, both morally and practically. Historically, the different states have served as laboratories for social and economic policies, proving to the American people what policies actually work and what policies don't. This is a precious resource teetering on extinction….under siege by the feds, who are determined to squash the autonomy of the states with heavy-handed policies and regulations (e.g., Obamacare).

When one looks at our systemic debt and the approaching national bankruptcy, we need only to look at Johnson's 'Great Society;, when Medicare, Medicaid, food-stamps, housing subsidies and other forms of public assistance were born. No one then could ever have imagined how these programs would metastasize into the destructive scenario we find ourselves in today. So it is, Obamacare and the other spending initiatives of THIS Administration will be equally ruinous down the road.

I hold out little hope for the future of this once-great country. The Dems are entirely uninterested in entitlement reform….and the Republicans are terrified of advocating specifics, lest they are once again stigmatized as "throwing granny off a cliff"…the way Ryan was when he introduced his rather timid budget proposals.

Where is our Churchill?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

Our Churchills are struggling to survive the purges by RNC hacks like Boehner.

HoR_Emperor

Sorry, but none of those four guys was a prospective Churchill. The supposed "purge" is an overblown nothing, a distraction.

Jim_C

As I said during the whole Wisconsin/Walker thing–it will be interesting.

The people seem to be voting anti-union, and if that's the case, then so be it.

But I'm skeptical as to whether they really understand what they are "against." Not that I can say I fully understand what they are "for."

UCSPanther

All I can say is "Bring it Hoffa." You declare and engage in war, we'll make you wish for the bad old days when the Union's worst enemy was the Pinkerton Detective Agency.

Mary Sue

ah, rent-a-cops!

UCSPanther

The Pinkertons were more like mercenaries whose main specialty was union-busting.

Mary Sue

Why is it everything I've seen on the History Channel (and maybe A&E, I'm not sure, it was a long time ago) portrayed the "Pinkers" as something horrible?

dangerouspatriot

I agree, bring it on you punk hoffa, you want a civil war, you got one and I'll wager the majority of the people in Michigan will be against you and your kind. Your kind are nothing but thieves, liars, bullies, punks and criminals who steal honest workers money to stick in your own pension coffers and to hell with all those little people who work to scratch out a living. I pray to God that someday you will learn a hard lesson and you pay and pay and pay till your so dried up you'll blow away with a strong breeze, you and your criminal cronies. Whew, that makes me feel better but really pray for these people because like Jesus said from the cross, 'Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do.'

kafir4life

It's amusing that our resident union thug has amusingly been hiding. Union thugs are just that….thugs. I contacted Tony's IBEW local, and so far they're too cowardly to respond. I understand that Tony's got a 7k "bounty" on his head. Not in the George Zimmerman dead or alive sense, but in the let's find this cowardly thug and prosecute him (unless he opts for the sanctioned butt whooping by Mr. Crowder).

Let union run companies know why you won't purchase from them.

kafir4life

Hoffa and his family are not only criminals, they're lazy sacks of crap that have never worked a day in their miserable lives (much like all union leadership and the democrat politicians they buy). They're parasites. But interesting parasites in they have managed to get their hosts that they feed off of to protect them, and endorse the forced sucking of the blood (and who knows what else) of the membership. Can you imagine being so low skilled, so ignorant, so unable to speak for yourself, that you think that a union is working for YOU!??

I'd pay one of these fat union pukes to try hitting me.
They always attack people who don't know how to hit back.
Hoffa is a fat jelly doughnut and a cherry pie who wouldn't last a second.

kafir4life

From the physical description, it sounds like you're describing Trumpka the Hutt.

fiddler

LOL

Questions

You think so? I wouldn't be so sure. When it comes to throwing and tkaing a punch, Hoffa learned at home from one of the best.

Mary Sue

his old man is six feet under somewhere though, so…

kafir4life

He'll always be a cornerstone in the organization, tho'.

pierce

The bullying tactic they are using has been a life long thing with the unions. They have out lived their usefulness, so now they have to use thuggery to make their points. It is ugly and it will get uglier.
I am not sure why BO went to Detroit this week, it had to be to thank the unions for getting out the vote, but maybe, just maybe it was to try to intimidate the Governor into not, I repeat not signing that Right To Work Bill. Well it did not work, and just maybe the people will remember 4 years down the road.
And SoCalMike don't pay one any Union Puke to hit you, unless you can hit him 1st, or you are bigger than he is, or you got the law on your side. They will do a number on you.

sononthe_beach

If the videos of all those fat union guys are a testimonial to their state of readiness for battle, the "war" would last about as long as it takes for them to jog a block. No one should be forced to support an organization that uses its dues to support politicians or causes that a member does not agree with.

In any case, Trumka is the perfect poster fatso for the body of his organization. Somehow I just can't take seriously a guy who looks like an enormous hamster.
As for Hoffa, all his "war" talk is just so he won't wind up in an oil barrel somewhere near his dad.

fiddler

"Enormous Hamster" — ROFL!

Mary Sue

said fat union guys are one paycheck away from gaming 24/7 in their mother's basement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

Let's see. If a veteran, conservative malitia member hangs an empty chair in his front yard the secret service show up to 'chat' with him. But Hoffa can say this and get's a pass?

We are in trouble.

HoR_Emperor

Sadly, the Unions have been getting a pass on violence — not just rhetoric, but real violence — for decades.

JacksonPearson

Hoffa's a bottom feeding milker. The only reason he's getting a pass is because of the community organizer sitting in the white house.

Yephora

Ann Coulter described them best.
Demonic.

mattogilvie55

I really wish they would come to Georgia and try this garbage. I could use the target practice.

davarino

They over reached and now they are becoming irrelevant. Some how they expect the non union majority to support them in their largesse. The majority are going to fight for the minority to get better pay and conditions then they have. Right!!!!

kasandra

Violence is as common to unionism as flies are to dog poo. In the early 1970s my father was the manager of a women's clothing store in Detroit. A union was trying to organize the sales people. One of my father's duties, as a member of the wealthy managerial class (he was being paid less than $15,000 a year) was to watch the organizers and make sure they were obeying the law. One of the union's goons got him alone in an elevator and while smashing his fist into an open hand told my father how sometimes people who paid too close attention to their organizing tactics got hurt. Was this a goon from the Teamsters, the UAW, the IBEW, the CWA? No, this individual was an organizer working for the International Ladies Garment Worker's Union. You know, the ones with the cute "Look for the union label" ditty. I'm not anti-union; in fact, I'm a union member. I'm just anti-union violence and intimidation. Anyone who claims that these aren't common union tactics is wilfully blind.

Mindy

Anytime I see that someone has a somewhat opposing view from the majority, which in this case are the commentors of the article, but, will not be blinded to the truth despite what they support I have to say thank you. I say thank you because it reminds me of the America we used to be, slightly different veiws which we could express and discuss. It is no longer that way. I actually feel like I woke up one morning to discover many democrats had been body snatched. I think this is due to the media and those they parade in front of us . Anyways, hello American!

kafir4life

I avoid union made goods and services whenever possible. Reminds of of supporting organized crime. I'm sure you're a hard worker, Kasandra, but I can't see intentionally allowing my money to go into the tip jars of the democrat party, or to pay for hookers for your leaders.

tagalog

James Hoffa said: “What they’re doing is basically, betraying democracy,” he said of Big Labor’s opponents. “If there’s any question here, let’s put it on the ballot and let the people of Michigan decide what’s good for Michigan.”

Mr. Hoffa apparently doesn't understand the republican form of govenment. The right-to-work law was passed into law by the peoples' elected representatives and signed by the duly elected governor of the state. If the voters are dissatisfied with that, their remedy is to vote the elected representatives out of office and replace them with representatives who will repeal the right-to-work law. That's the form of democracy that we follow in the United States. Mr. Hoffa is an exemplar of the failure of our overpaid teachers, who I might add are unionized, failing to teach American civics to pupils at the elementary educational level.

If the unions are going to revolt in some gut-level, insurrectionist level, that will be interesting. Many of them have military experience and are shooters and hunters.

Mary Sue

Jimmy Hoffa Jr. isn't even from Michigan is he? Isn't he from like, New Jersey?

He doesn't understand that this came about because of a ballot initiative. Not directly, but in response to a ballot initiative that was favorable to the Unions that went down in flames.

ffortnightly

Yes indeed. This is a common theme these days. Leftists and their ilk managed the greatest deception in history that culminated in Obama's election. Ever since they have been pushing far beyond the envelope. Why? Because they feel cocky and empowered. It's amazing how many of them thought Obama had become king. Watching the unions attempt to feather their nest while the Walker battle was being lost by other union over-stepping was like witnessing a power orgy of cockroaches just as the light is flipped back on. The PEOPLE sent them packing because the system worked and the representatives did not stab their constituents in the back (rare, but true).

Unions had a noble purpose but were hijacked long ago by extortion specialists, psychopaths and thugs. Want a real eye-opening experience? Spend some time at a major amusement park and watch the union scrabblings. All of it driven by leftist special interests.
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Larry Robinon

In the 30's / 40's there was a need for unions; that day has long since gone. Unions lose jobs, prevent manufacturers from expanding in this country, are nothing more than pimps, and cost the rest of the country to spend 35% more for a product so the members can have their short term gains. I don't understand the union mentality of today—-you are not working because you priced and bullied your way out of a job.

fiddler

The word "PARASITES" accurately describes them.

HoR_Emperor

"In the 30's / 40's there was a need for unions; "

Nope. There was never a need for unions. The unions of the 30's/40's were massively infiltrated by Communists, and were also destructively selfish — they staged repeated strikes during WW2, for example.

Stuart MacLean

This is what happens in a 'system' where government hands out 'mulligans'. Nobody can make it 'fair'! It's all enabled by our Federal governments 'legal-tender', mulligan monopoly!

john spielman

we must understand that for the unions and leftist organizations, the end justifys the means. Stalin, Mao,Pol pot, and Jimmy Hoffa sr all operated on the same premise, and the son Jimmmy jr has the same moral foundations as did his father-NONE.

BLJ

Hoffa is a boob. Do ever notice how all of these "hard working" union people are overweight slobs? Hoffa's old man was a crook and the son is a chip off the old block.

poetcomic1

His father was not a 'crook' – you make it sound like he was some two bit embezzler. Jimmy Hoffa was a MONSTER of corruption, murder, deceit and evil. Don't care where he's buried as long as he stays buried.

Mary Sue

Makes me wonder that Even Evil Has Standards (if the Mob hit theory is true).

Steve

Bring it on Hoffa, you commie pig..you'll be joining your scumbag Father in hell.

Ar'nun

I think it is time for Junior to be reunited with Senior…

Sebron Dowden

Of course union officials are going to fight right to work. If the unions are out these crooks will have to get a job. Same the so called revs al & jesse if we ever achieve racial equality.

kafir4life

It's not just that the crooks would have get "jobs". It's also that the members might have to "work" at theirs.

.Hey "Jimmy", there is a really simple way for you and your Union followers to solve the problem you seem to have: START YOUR OWN COMPANY! Call it GENERAL MUGGERS MOTORS. Be confident that the World needs a new TRAMBLANT MOTOR VEHICLE. Charge $100,000 for the plain jane model. Warranty everything for 25 years. Your worker MINIMUM WAGE could be set at $150 / Hour – not much higher than the $72 / Hour now. Lifetime employment, free beer, 90 days vacation…you get the picture. ps: This will work because Obama will Executive Order an AFFORDABLE CAR ACT – OBAMA BUGGY!!!

Mary Sue

Being a parasite means never creating something for yourself. And that's the bottom line with the Union thugs.

Unions is school of communism by Vladimir Lenin. On the other hand Unions intertwine with mafia: there are so many books on that one conforming it. Unions leaders have salary from $500,000 to $1ML but not doing any good for this country, for society, for justice as they like to use that word. Outsourcing problem was triggered by Unions war against Companies competitiveness. Unions are killing jobs here in USA. Where is Unions, there is economical catastrophe. Detroit time ago blooming city is now dead city. I was there and it was horrible to see abandoned buildings, empty streets and wandering unemployed proletariat. Detroit is Obamacity and should be renamed so.

Rifleman

This law was the direct result of union over-reach, they have nothing but their own greed to blame. I guess eric holder and the obama doj will be going after Michigan next.

Hoffa does not care about union membership or benefits for union workers. All he wants is to continue to promote laws where workers are " forced to pay union dues as a condition of employment". In that way, he and all his fellow union bosses can continue to siphon money out of the system to pad their own pockets.
Forget the 'Union Maid', Joe Hill, John Lews, Sam Gompers and all the rest of the more than unsavory union giants of the past. Union leaders of today are corrupt thugs who can no longer present any economic justification for their presence.

kafir4life

They used to call it a "protection racket". Now that they have the paid for politicians on their side, they have laws to allow them to extort…..from workers, businesses, anybody who doesn't wet the beaks of the union leadership

Attila The Hun

Once the left(liberals, socialist, fascist, communist) gets in power the only way to get them out of power is revolution. For them democracy is one election one time. If The unions are soo democratic and care for its members why not hold election every year of every couple of years. They know they will lose, the only way they can stay in power is trough intimidation/thuggery and of course tyranny of the socialist bosses .And we did see all this in display in Michigan. It's time to destroy unionism/socialism/communism from the bottom up.

bill

what a bunch of brain dead amoral union workers, they will do anything their union thug leaders tell them to do, while all along the leaders are ripping off the membership of their dues money and in many cases pension funds. They siphon money off to pay the democrat sleaze politicians galore. It's an unholy alliance that must be stopped. These are people not willing to look at the economy in a whole ad what has happened to the America. in the meantime the whoa union leadership sits idly by and allows illegal aliens to take the work of its own citizens which deprives other union member's from getting jobs. its total insanity. they should be marching on the white house and calling for Mr Scumbags impeachment and serving jail time for treason along with all the democratic sleaze bags.

Ghostwriter

Me,all I want is a job. And I don't want to be forced into a union if I don't want to be in one.

omar kahlid

I am not union but work for a company that has a union. The one thing I notice is that the union members are almost all, quite morally corrupt. They brag about having sex with under-aged girls, getting high on the job, drinking excessively, having gay sex in toilets and so on. When confronted the more corrupt they are the more liberal democrat they are. I find this true in life. The more sin that a person hides the more democrat they are. It really fits if you think about it.

Mary Sue

It makes me wonder whether the whole point of unions is so that workers can drink and slack off on the job and never ever be fired for it. Particularly since CHRYSLER had to re-hire two drunk-and-stoned idiots back on the job! I wondered why Chryslers were s___….

Derek

What the Unions, and in fact all leftist, don’t want to acknowledge is WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY.This isn’t by accident or oversight. Our founding fathers VERY SPECIFICALLY want to avoid a Democracy because it implement majority (or in this case mob) rule to the detriment of minorities and the individual. Obviously our education system is failing completely when the past two generations of people have no idea what was done and why we were designed as a REPUBLIC.

guest

time for lil jimmy to join his daddy an disappear.

Mary Sue

Limbaugh lost a lot of weight.

Oh and by the way, Lucy Dye, "kaffir" didn't originate in South Africa. It originated in Arabia and spread to Indonesia where the Dutch picked it up from the Muslims in the area. "Kaffir" means "infidel" but in the same vein as the Afrikaans used it for black people. It was originally applied in a VERY derogatory way to non-Muslims!

Dennis X

Oh, oh, it seems that the viedo was edited. The false news guy actually threw the first punch/ push. Hope the union guy presses charges!

kafir4life

You voted for President Stinky (BO) didn't you LD? You may want to ask Baba Wawa about Chis Christie. She posed the question to him.

And that's one 'f'. The other is for you, LD.

tagalog

Maybe, if we want the mainstream media to pay attention to Mr. Hoffa's threat of insurrection, and Mr. Geiss' threat of blood, we could persuade Sarah Palin to make a speech in which she tells her audience that we should put our political crosshairs on the Michigan unions, lefty Michigan politicians, and Mr. Hoffa. That should cause plenty of gasps in certain circles.

pyeatte

The union thugs do resemble the Nazi Brown Shirts, in both act and form. They should be treated as such. Hoffa wants a civil war – one he cannot win. Thug violence will be meet with societal rejection. The time of the Ork is over.

Madeleine

upto I looked at the receipt that said $4457, I accept that…my… neighbours mother woz like they say truly bringing home money parttime on their computer.. there brothers friend has been doing this for less than twenty two months and resantly cleared the dept on their condo and bourt a new Aston Martin DB5. I went here….. Bit40.ℂOℳ

scum

Looks like Vadum got his wish: Lower wages for all working people in Michigan. Good for him.

scum

Notice how the Right, which pretends to be laissez faire, actually uses the legislative strong-arm of the state when it wants to. Typical.

Brujo Blanco

The problem with the contemporary unions is that they work to destroy the corporations that write the paychecks. They also work to enhance the power of the democrats and communists.

Parenthetical Phrase

James Hoffa – you need to join your dad. Bring on that civil war and see what happens. Union members (especially their leaders) eat steak while the rest of us go hungry? I don't think so. Watch how fast the rest of us respond to your union goons.

Michelle

Just gave me a reason to get a gun and take shooting lessons. Just imagine if a conservative had made these statements. They would have been arrested by now and probably would have disappeared as well. The man is completely ignorant. Wonder what he would do if he actually had to work just one day in his life.

TheSolution

Hoffa is calling for civil war and promising bloodshed? Time to meet daddy Jimmy Boy.

capt. wolf

willing to pull the trigger on brothers ah. cause of some possessed bastard well bring it on you done heard the south will rise again seems like thats what your pushen for, damn your unions work like every body else with a broke back ………

CALIXTO RUBERO

HE WANT WAR, HE MY GET IT. DONT WICH WHAT YOU CANT HANDLE. THIS ARE THE TIPICAL BULLY, BIG MOUTH.MEN DONT READ HISTORY, SO HISTORY WILL REPEAT, BIG EMPIRES CAME BEFORE THE US, AND FALL. REMENBER THE ROMAN EMPIRE , THAT EMPIRE WAS NOT DESTROY FROM THE OUT SIDE, THE EMPIRE WAS DESTROY FROM THE INSIDE ,THERE OWN PEOPLE. AND THIS IS HAPPENING IN THIS COUNTRY. THE USA WILL SUFFER THE SAME CONSEQUENSES, THERE OWN PEOPLE WILL DESTROY IT. AND I SEE IT WITH THE COMMENT OF THIS PERSON, TALKING OF CIVIL WAR. IS NOT GOING TO BE CIVIL WAR,WILL BE THE DOOM OF AMERICA AS YOU KNOW IT. GOD BLESS THIS NATION.