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There has been a massive destruction; be it mental, physical or financial! These dacoits are keeping a watch by every possible method available. We and not the Police,should take precautions regarding the same. Why is it always that police reach the spot late? Even when a report has been given they show no such urgency at that moment. Lack of Officers? Lack of seriousness? Or lots of stress?I have been a victim of recent robbery case which took place in Karvenagar. We cannot blame the Police alone. We the citizens, have to be alert and provide enough information to the nearby Police Station incase of any unnatural,unrealistic behaviour!I spoke with many Police Officers and what I found is that they are providing enough assistance to the public. I am happy with the officers from Alankar Police Station,Karvenagar who have provided assistance and have been very cooperative. One just cannot blame the constituiton,the law,the services etc..instead help them to reduce the criminal activites by providing information. Its true people develop an introvert behaviour towards Police and other legal cases in fear of putting oneself into problems.But thats not going to work. We people should come together and form a web for the Police to make their work easier.I appeal to everyone to develop your contacts,keep your eyes open,be self efficient and make use of every possible security measures.

Who is to blame? Who is to blame??Who ELSE is to blame but yourself? What prompted GREEDY puneiites to rent their flats to students or bachelors instead of families who can watch the neighbourhood more carefully? Money, right? What prompted puneiites to sell the Wadas to a builder for a mall and get shifted to a "serene" "near-to-nature" environment? Money, right? What prompted puneiites to accept outsiders blindly? Money, right? What prompted puneiites to increase the rents of living spaces in incremental ratios? Money, right? So you see, it is all about Money, honey! So puneiites are getting paid in the same token in which they have tried to trade for so long, infact they have loved it for so long! If what you say is "criminal", isn't converting Pune from a sleepy town to a booming metropolis for your own benefits a crime too? You want the rates of your properties to increase, but you do not want criminals to be around. Now is that logical? Wherever there is prosperity, there will be thieves. Wherever there is suger, there will be flies. Why did you -puneiites- allowed this beautiful town to convert into such mirror image of mumbai? Why didn't you raise a voice then? Why didn't you put pressure on government to stop IT-isation of Pune?

Plus now you complain about police's attitude? How many of them are there? a handful to serve the population of lakhs. And you people elect the government which keeps this number that low in the name of what, "Keeping out religious fundamental parties"? Bullshit!

I guess it's enough of blaming anybody. Whoever is responsible for it but the damage is done already. We need to think what can be done toprevent this. I think being the flat owner it's our prime responsibility to take care of our own belongings. SO why to depend on anybody else to protect it. There is a wide spread tendancy in Puneits that they don't bother to spend extra penny for their own safety.

I think it's high time for all Co-perative Socities and large colonies to get togather and show that you are living in Hi-tech Pune. All socities should consider building proper Boundry walls. Install Restricted Entry / access systems. Install Security Camera / survelience systems. Hire designated Security persons from reputed Security organasations. We may have to shell out few thousands from our pocket for it. But that's for our own security. Theft is just one of the problems, some times this leads to an loss of life for few poor unfortunates. And Mind that this few thousands (one time contribution) can save you few Lakhs and may be few pricess lives. I think we should give utmost importance to our security. Also consider buying a House / Content Insurance.

Either SAKAL or few knowledgible people should take initiative with the help of Local Police Authorities in forming a comitte to do survey and make security recommendations for each and every Residential society.

By taking these security precautions we will also make work easier for Police, should the worse happen.

i agree with neo.. yes, certainly punekars should take the responsibility for each and everything in the city. the first thing i noticed about after a gap of 7 or so years is the city has just gone beyond the capacities to control. i don't think police will ever be helpful in this matter unless and until they will be supported by the people. here in pune, people have changed. they can't see people dying on road in accidents, why they will bother about the neighbor's flat... let alone calling the police.

i would like to suggest1. Private security guards for building. here most of members in societies think that the security guard for the building is their personal attendent. they ask the guard to bring paan-bidi, water, and whatever. the security guard arrangement should be for full-time, in 3 shifts. don't allow the flat owners to keep bachelors (any indian, foreigner). if there are any, ask them to be at room by say 10 in the evening. ask the watchman to keep gate closed by 10.2. Ask the watchman to keep register for each and every outsider who enters the builiding premises. i know it will cost you more, but nothing comes for free. if you want to be secure, you should have to be more professional for basic security. tell the watchman to provide escort to every visitor to his/her destination flat.3. keep eye on the security professionals also.4. tell all the flat members to provide with their emergency contact numbers. keep emergency phone numbers handy.5. Be friendly with the neighbors, especially those who are living alone away from their parents/children.6. If affordable, use hidden cameras.

I certainly agree with some of the points regarding personal security.It is very important not to blame the police ,as the number of crimials outnumber the police.I guess majority people forget the point why criminals do arise.This is due to the difference in wealth with rich and poor.One of the reasons behind that is the tax system.And for all those people who evade tax...think twice if you are different to the robber.With the population always rising it is bound to create these problems.Also for all those people who feel Pune has been infiltrated ,they need to think twice.Unless Pune is a seperate nation there is no right for anyone to say or unless the borders are controled .What a great united nation with 60 years of independence????.It is racism.And for all those who go to other greaner pastures(US,Uk..etc) would you like the same to be said about you ,outsiders have come here.So the problem lies in the division beetween poor and the rich & population.

Well, well, well. Here comes my man. Patriotic to the core. Aren't you? Gee. Where should I pat you? Now let me see what you are saying. You are saying I am a -what- racist? Just because I don't want outsiders to be here? So errr what are you exactly? Bihari? UPiite? Muslim? And what "great" nation are you talking about? The same nation which does not bring a single gold medal in olympics? Which teaches that Sawarkar was a fundamentalist? Which says that Muslims have "greater" right to itself than Hindus? Which loses a third part of kashmir to pakistan because it's first prime minister was a "visionary"? Which gives fifty percent of it's educations seats to non-performers even after sixty years? Which bloody nation are you talking about? Everybody in India is "something".. a tamilian, a punjabi, a bihari etc etc and then Indian. Why should this be teached only to Maharashtrians? Ever tried to purchase land in Bihar or eastern UP if you are not a Bihari or UPiite? Do that, see and then tell me. Every state in India is a nation unto itself, except for Maharashtra. And because of that, the former Home minister of Maharashtra was a UPiite. Ever seen a Maharashtrian as Home minister of UP? So don't tell me logic. I am better in it.

Dear Neo, I guess you are really patriotic.Me I am from ,Pune(born & living) & Brahmin.I guess I havent bought a land in Bihar but,you have to accept the rule of life that always people will be going to the greener pastures.I think you have not got my point.What I have said is the criminal exist due to the difference in the economic wealth between people. I guess you are really not at the mature age to understand globalisation and where socialist views stand.Currently we are in a capitalistic world which will have these problems.And great to see alot of people still having no brains that the evil plan which was executed by the British is still working really good..(Hindu & Muslim) and really grow up .At no point was demeaning your logic.I guess you have not come to the mature age of having a constructive debate

Ha!! Talking about maturity, just tell me what Japan and Germany were fifty years ago. They were turned into rubble. In post-war era, majority of their inhabitants were not more than beggars searching food on streets. Now where are they? Forget these. Think about China. Do you want me to send you the links to it's prosperity? Google the images tab for "Shanghai" and then for "mumbai". And see the difference. Now tell me, why didn't Japan and Germany turn into an Afghanistan? Then you will know why your logic of "criminal exist due to the difference in the economic wealth between people" fails. If you still do not understand, I will elaborate it for you. It all comes to -as you said- globalisation. True. The only problem is, some people can not leave behind their social and political dogma. Neither can they adopt special skills necessary for new world order, nor can they leave their pride and actually work. The common excuses heard are: "My forefathers were descendents of Shivaji"; "My forefathers were related to Peshvas"; "We were downtrodden for five thousand years, so we have right to make the country dirty" and so on and so forth.. This mentality of "Me" being either special than everybody or being downtrodden for long and therefore has special right, is the root cause. That will be there even after fifty thousand years. People of India will always have excuses for NOT doing their duties. Half of so called citizens of pune are political activists (meaning who earn without doing anything) and probably earn their living by being some sort of agent: from passport agent to property agent. Indians simply can not become hardworking and self-respecting gentle people. That is why British rule is still attractive even when it is not supposed to be attractive. If you want to keep your eyes closed to reality in the name of maturity, do that. We are doing that for fifty years. If maturity amounts to political talking, I better remain immature.

P.S. And by the way, about "Hindus and Muslims" issue, you will learn. Probably the hard way. The way America did.

Well Brothors, please this is not time for all this. I really appreciate your concerns and knowledge. We should start respecting different ideas & views, as that's what make us different from each other. And should stop criticising it. Politics is the very high level subject and I do salute to them who really understand what happens in this politics under the name of domocracy. Some time I doubt that are we really living in democracy. Is there anybody in this politics who really care what you and me think and want. What our problems are?

But we all know that blaming them or our habits isn't going to do any good to ourseleves. I am really impressed by the initiative taken by few flat owners in Sinhagad road area, and few residents lead Kruti samities as well. We need to find the way to communicate our suggestions and ideas to these people who have actually started working in this area and who has some influence.

We need to start from basics, and should not really waste our time now (perticulerly in tis topic) in talking about few things which we will not be able to change overnight or out of our control. But they are indeed worth points that we should consider carefully as being Puneites.

I am sorry, if I have offended anyone, as i have no intentions what so ever to do so.

Blame , the Punekars Themselves.1. Punekars pay the highest Taxes to Govt.of Maharashtra (Thosuands of Crores). 2. But any Govt. (Cogress or BJP), has not provided sufficient number of Police to Pune.3. Punekar's are blind : despite of this un-justice from the Rulers in Mumbai, they always keep quite.4. They never press for any demand on any Govt.5. blame all the Political masters of Pune ( Minister, MLA, MP)- Nobody has tried to get sufficient number of police for Pune.6. Blame the Punekar's who repeatedly elect the non-performing MPs, MLAs and Corporators.7. Blame the Punekar's for their limited , self-centric attitude.There is no strong neighbour-hood binding in Pune. 8. At least 50% of the people in society / apartment even does not know, who lives on their floor, in their building , in their campus.

Blame the System of Investigation and Punishment.1. In India, the criminal who commits even a murder stays out of jail for at least 15 years.(on bail)2. Same is the case with all criminals. 3. Only 50% of the criminals are caught by the police. But they are left free on the bail.4. Because of this the professional criminals does not care for the punishment. Because they always get BAIL and not punishment.5. There should fast-track courts, for handling criminals. 6. Once the criminal is caught by police, his case should be decide within one month. 7. In one month only there should be final decision about the punishment.8. Punishment should be harsh, so that the same criminal should never dare to repaeat such crime.9. If the fast and harsh punishcment is given to the existing criminals, There will fall in the number of new criminals.

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