What happens now?..she has not been on the laptop all night..she flipped out when i mentioned the divorce..said that I am looking for stuff thats not there and that I can tell whoever I want as she is tired of all this now..wanted to be left alone..all sorts..

First you need to get out of your own fog: the fig of trying to think that somewhere inside her is the caring rational honest person you married. Right now she is a self deluded liar who has as her happiness goal to remain in her EA. that makes anything she has to do fair and right in her eyes.

First kill the affair, then you can talk to her.Posted via Mobile Device

I guess you're progressively learning the answer to your thread question. I wouldn't kick her out or tell her parents, that would seem too brash and desperate in my opinion. Keep with the 180 and like Mori says, make her understand that this marriage is effectively on probation until she gets her act together. I will differ from other users here by not advising you personally to end the affair, this should be a personal step from her. If you want to know if there's anything salvageable from this individual they have to personally get out of this fog alone. Stop contacting the OM, it hasn't worked and it won't work. He owes you absolutley nothing. Your wife has to ultimately realise the error of her ways and to understand whether risking your relationship is worth some friend from 30 years ago who lives thousands of miles away. If she chooses the latter then this marriage rotted along time ago.

Okay, everybody needs to slow the F down. I thought this was a pro marriage forum. All I am hearing is how this woman is for sure cheating, in the fog, is playing mind games, manipulating, etc, etc.

None of us know if any of that is true or false. Some of you are giving good advice here, but others are ready to throw stones at yet another witch, and we don't know much at all.

Look, Heats of Oak, stop contacting the OM. It's always a bad tactic. He won't listen to you - only her. Deal with your wife only. You've already laid down the gauntlet. She claims the relationship is innocent, but that isn't what matters. What matters is that the relationship bothers you.

Here's what you do. You say, "Honey, look. I know I may be coming across harsh right now, and your relationship with X might very well be innocent. But it still really bothers me, and given what's gone down I am having trouble trusting you. I want to stay married to you and continue our life together, but I can't do that when you are having secret conversations with another man. I have to draw the line for the sake of myself and our marriage. So, even if nothing naughty is going on, I need you to cut ties with him. Hopefully you can respect my feelings and value our marriage more than your conversations with X. So what's it going to be, Doll?"

If she values your marriage enough, she shouldn't hesitate after this plea from you. She might get defensive, but if she does, you just say, "Honey, I understand this might just be an innocent friendship. But I don't care. This is how it has to be. It bothers me that much. So, whaddya say?"

WTF....she sends an e-mail to the OM that disrespected you, you found out......and this breaks HER heart!??

WOW!!

Look you need to quit asking of you are making something out of nothing - it really is getting annoying --------- the second she lied and took direct action to keep you, her husband, in the dark about her communication with the OM......she crossed the line. It became more than a friendship, it became a toxic presence that would eat away at your marriage - distracting her, a 3rd party to the two of you that is cancer.

This is big, accept it and don't waver from it and don't ask that damn question again.Posted via Mobile Device

just one question..could this all just be an over reaction on my behalf?..or am I kidding myself?...I cant see the wood for the trees..sooo confused!!

Normally your wife's refusal to stop contacting the OM would be an indication in and of itself that there is something wrong. What makes it hard to read is that you are so beta and she is so use to pushing you around that I am not sure just how much this OM means to her.

You work a job, she does not yet:
1) You usually make her tea and breakfast every morning.
2) You get the kids up, feed them and get them off to school.
3) You do most of the house work.
Dude, until she gets a job, get her out of bed and have her take care of you, the kids and the house work. It is only fair.

Add to this the fact that after fights she expects you to make nice the next morning and you are a doormat. She has no respect for you and thus your unhappiness with her talking behind your back to the OM means nothing to her. Is it any wonder that you say that she is no longer attracted to you?

Man up now. Lay down the law and then back it up with action not talk. Cut her off financially and take care of all of the bills yourself. Start asserting yourself.

Here is a thought. Instead of asking are you wrong or right, start knowing that you are right when you are right. If her talking to another man bugs you, then you have a right to tell her to stop all contact. Stop always seeing it from her point of view and recognize that your point of view matters.

Okay, everybody needs to slow the F down. I thought this was a pro marriage forum. All I am hearing is how this woman is for sure cheating, in the fog, is playing mind games, manipulating, etc, etc.

None of us know if any of that is true or false. Some of you are giving good advice here, but others are ready to throw stones at yet another witch, and we don't know much at all.

Look, Heats of Oak, stop contacting the OM. It's always a bad tactic. He won't listen to you - only her. Deal with your wife only. You've already laid down the gauntlet. She claims the relationship is innocent, but that isn't what matters. What matters is that the relationship bothers you.

Here's what you do. You say, "Honey, look. I know I may be coming across harsh right now, and your relationship with X might very well be innocent. But it still really bothers me, and given what's gone down I am having trouble trusting you. I want to stay married to you and continue our life together, but I can't do that when you are having secret conversations with another man. I have to draw the line for the sake of myself and our marriage. So, even if nothing naughty is going on, I need you to cut ties with him. Hopefully you can respect my feelings and value our marriage more than your conversations with X. So what's it going to be, Doll?"

If she values your marriage enough, she shouldn't hesitate after this plea from you. She might get defensive, but if she does, you just say, "Honey, I understand this might just be an innocent friendship. But I don't care. This is how it has to be. It bothers me that much. So, whaddya say?"

Did that and she refused so see why she hasd to frop the friend..then she had to think about it and then she decided to do it..not sure she will stick to that

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on Talk About Marriage, you must first register. Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

Important! Your username will be visible to the public next to anything you post and could show up in search engines like Google. If you are concerned about anonymity, PLEASE choose a username that will not be recognizable to anyone you know.

User Name:

Password

Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:

Confirm Password:

Email Address

Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:

OR

Log-in

User Name

Password

Remember Me?

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.