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I use to as my main channel surfing. Turn on CNN/E!/comedy and surf on the other one. Pause when I hit a commercial. Wife use it to watch Soaps. I bet more people use it then just for sports.

I apparently didn't express myself well. I didn't mean to imply that I only use it for sports. I, like you, use it to surf. I really don't like watching commercials on live TV. (OK, I'm not crazy about watching them recorded either.)

I just meant that when this subject is brought up, many say that they don't use it in general, but do use it for sports. Since D* seems to want to be the leader in sports programming, this feature seems to fit in with their marketing focus.

I am pretty sure this is simply not true since the Scientific Atlanta DVR's do not have DLB and are probably the most installed DVR's in America since cable owns a MUCH bigger share of the market and this is the most popular cable DVR (SD or HD).

That said - it's a complete piece of junk (the SciAtl box that is) and I am all for DLB.

DLB is listed as patented technology by TIVO in their lawsuit with DISH et al. D* will not touch DLB until that suit is settled/resolved.

That's what was said about autocorrection. Guess what, autocorrection is now in public beta on the HR20. D* and TIVO have a relationship that doesn't exist with E*, and that relationship appears to be warming back up.

I am pretty sure this is simply not true since the Scientific Atlanta DVR's do not have DLB and are probably the most installed DVR's in America since cable owns a MUCH bigger share of the market and this is the most popular cable DVR (SD or HD).

That said - it's a complete piece of junk (the SciAtl box that is) and I am all for DLB.

But let's get the facts straight.

Didn't know about that one. We where going to do a list of ALL DVRs and snail mail a letter to D* about DLB. In my area we have Charter/Dish/D* All but D* have DLB.

I wanted to get more research on this to find out what is out there and mail it to them.... Just no time. Thanks for the correction! If you can let me know what DVRs are in your area and if they have DLB. Thanks!

I am pretty sure this is simply not true since the Scientific Atlanta DVR's do not have DLB and are probably the most installed DVR's in America since cable owns a MUCH bigger share of the market and this is the most popular cable DVR (SD or HD).

That said - it's a complete piece of junk (the SciAtl box that is) and I am all for DLB.

But let's get the facts straight.

The cable system in my area and in many, many others use the motorola boxes which DO have DLBs. I do not know the breakdown on who uses the SciAtl vs Motorola, but I do know that Motorola has a significant chunk.

Could there be a link to D* not tackling DLB functionality because the "unused" tuner is expected to deliver the bulk of the non-internet VOD content?

No D* conspiracy theory here, just a thought!

You have to figure the amount of VOD content they intend on pushing will be more than the DTivos ever had to receive on those off hour data streams. Maybe the open stream will be needed during more "normal" hours of operation via the unused tuner. (Obviously not available when two shows are recording simultaneously.)

DLB is listed as patented technology by TIVO in their lawsuit with DISH et al. D* will not touch DLB until that suit is settled/resolved.

It seems whenever there's a feature that TiVo has that is not in the HR20, it's attributed to TiVo having a patent on that feature. One thing to remember is that a concept can't be patented, but the implementation can. So if TiVo patents a specific implementation of Fast Forward Correction, but DirecTV comes up with their own implementation, there's no infringement on TiVo's patent.

I have heard it said before that there is technically 3 tuners on the hr20. Don't know if that is true, however, I would guess that it may work something like this.

tuner 1: used freely to channel surf

tuner 2: when not in use, is used for vod streaming download

tuner 3: used via broadband connection in tandem with tuner 2 to combine download bandwith to get the data faster.

However, I have serious doubts that directv will ultimately stick with this "download VOD over your broadband connection, as it would be like shooting themselves in the foot, and even Dtv is not dumb enough to "rely on a competitor's network" to deliver vod for directv.

I personally know engineers and networking techs for verizon who have told me this has been discussed and how they plan to "deal" with it if it comes to fruition.

All that said, even with the advent of vod, I still see no reason why dlb would have to interfere with that.

So far all I've read is a few self-centered people saying that we should stop asking for DLB because they don't want it or don't use it. As others have said, I could say the same about VOD, CID, or even CC, but instead I welcome them because I might at some point be interested and there are a lot of people (even though possibly a minority of viewers) who do want them and who value them. Why pan a feature because it's not your favorite? Why try to ridicule or put down those who clearly have very good reasons for wanting DLB or any feature?

My personal reason for wanting DLB is simply convenience. DLB is probably the single most CONVENIENT feature on a DVR. I watch TV to relax, not to constantly setup recordings and worry about the details. The existing workaround is a royal pain in the butt in my opinion (and I'm a "workaholic" in all areans, not a lazy person). I simply want the convenience and ease of use that DLB provides.

So one more time (and with many more backlogged for when needed).

I WANT MY D - L - B !!

And finally, thanks for starting up another DLB thread. D* please cave!!!