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Assuming that the 3-round limit will be enforced on pistol caliber rifles, would filling the tubular magazine of a lever-action rifle with enough dummy rounds to limit live-round capacity to 3 be considered acceptable by the DNR? The DNR might say that it would be too easy for someone to replace the dummy rounds with live rounds after the DNR officer departs, but it would be even easier to replace a limited-to-3-rounds box magazine with a standard magazine in the same circumstance.

http://wildlife.ohiodnr.gov/wildlife-ho ... bag-limitsA proposal was also offered that would allow the use of pistol cartridge rifles for deer hunting. The proposed rifles are the same caliber and use the same straight-walled cartridges that are currently legal for use in handguns. The proposal is designed to allow additional gun-hunting opportunities for hunters that own these guns or want to hunt with these guns. These rifles have reduced recoil compared to larger shotguns, and the proposed rifles are more accurate than the same caliber handgun.

I'm sorry, but I have to cry B.S.! I sure hope this is NOT the actual text, but more of a description with examples. From that quoted text above this means the .450 Bushmaster is out along with numerous other straight-walled cartridges. Looks like using any wildcats or new developed cartridges would be out based on the text too.

I agree with you. I have a 450 marlin bolt action I am hoping to use. Magnum research makes their bfr handgun in 450 marlin and I have hunted with it here in ohio in an encore. I hope this isn't a specific list.

Think this was mentioned in another thread, but try to keep in mind that it's been a long tedious process to get ODNR to change their regulations with regards to inclusion of "new" firearms for hunting. Contact them frequently and be patient.

"I have decided not to vote, speak in public, assemble in groups or petition my government either directly or by writing to the newspapers.

spook1 wrote:I agree with you. I have a 450 marlin bolt action I am hoping to use. Magnum research makes their bfr handgun in 450 marlin and I have hunted with it here in ohio in an encore. I hope this isn't a specific list.

http://wildlife.ohiodnr.gov/wildlife-ho ... bag-limitsA proposal was also offered that would allow the use of pistol cartridge rifles for deer hunting. The proposed rifles are the same caliber and use the same straight-walled cartridges that are currently legal for use in handguns. The proposal is designed to allow additional gun-hunting opportunities for hunters that own these guns or want to hunt with these guns. These rifles have reduced recoil compared to larger shotguns, and the proposed rifles are more accurate than the same caliber handgun.

I'm sorry, but I have to cry B.S.! I sure hope this is NOT the actual text, but more of a description with examples. From that quoted text above this means the .450 Bushmaster is out along with numerous other straight-walled cartridges. Looks like using any wildcats or new developed cartridges would be out based on the text too.

MANY people think the list that is published now for handguns is EXCLUSIVE, IE they feel that ctg NOT on the list are not legal, and that is NOT true....the list for handguns just illustrates SOME legal ctg. but ones not on the list that still meet the requirements ARE LEGAL.

NRAInstructor wrote:If they started off just allowing .45 LC and .44mag in rifles but nothing else that would've still been quite an accomplishment. I'm happy about the new options and I'm sure they'll get better.

I don't understand all the complaining either. We're talking about adding pistol-caliber rifles and people are complaining that .338 Win Mag isn't on the list... what's up with that?

My guess is that if we make enough noise we can get them to back-track to the point where we'll be lucky to use a recurve with field points.

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Even if the final rule ends up with the list being the only approved calibers, it is a vast improvement over the zero we have now. We can get improvements down the road, just like we have been doing with concealed carry.

NRAInstructor wrote:If they started off just allowing .45 LC and .44mag in rifles but nothing else that would've still been quite an accomplishment. I'm happy about the new options and I'm sure they'll get better.

I don't understand all the complaining either. We're talking about adding pistol-caliber rifles and people are complaining that .338 Win Mag isn't on the list... what's up with that?

My guess is that if we make enough noise we can get them to back-track to the point where we'll be lucky to use a recurve with field points.

Well these folks at the DNR are public employees, and they are paid with our tax dollars, so they work FOR us not vice versa.

But we seem to do pretty well in Ohio getting things done in increments. IMHO the DNR would rather do away with gun hunting totally if they could get away with it.

spook1 wrote:Any updates on how the meetings went. My mother had emergency surgery yesterday evening and I couldn't get to Athens for my local meeting. Any updates on the straight walled cases is appreciated.

We had a Wildlife Officer show up at our club meeting last night to talk about this and a few other things. His opinion was that it will pass, which is good to hear. He said a lot of people were supporting it and he has not really heard of any opposition. He also said the final vote is coming up. Maybe March 14th?

Quick response I have heard is that it was 95% in favor of PCR. Was some discussion on the caliber list.
Even at the Ohio Hunter Education banquet they raffled off a .357 rifle and said it will come in handy this fall in their announcement letter.