Not only they had bigger engines, they also could use as many engines as they wanted. I had the chance to hear the last of the V10s in a winter testing in Valencia and they roared tremendously. Too bad there are no V12 since '95.

I think it was martin brundle who said one year at magny cours that from 93 where the lap times were in 1'12s. To 97. Excluding sennas death. So continuing the line if development that would of happened if senna hadn't of died. The lap times would below a minute.

I think it was martin brundle who said one year at magny cours that from 93 where the lap times were in 1'12s. To 97. Excluding sennas death. So continuing the line if development that would of happened if senna hadn't of died. The lap times would below a minute.

'93 was a determinant year, it was the last year to allow ABS, active suspension and several electronic assistances. But there were many features that were already banned, like turbo engines (1989) ground effect (1980?)...

Schumacher's pole at Monza 2000 was faster than the pole at Monza 2012!

Also Schumacher's pole at Malaysia 2002 was a second faster than Hamilton's at Malaysia 2012!

Never underestimate the power of the old formula one cars.

So what youre saying is the rules brought in to slow the cars down have slowed the cars down? *inaudible* me.

I think that is a bit unfair, previously F1 struggled to slow the cars down because of aerodynamic advances so I do find it interesting that the 2000 pole was faster. Changes to the circuit could be a factor as well though, such as the kerbs at the Roggia.

I wish some boffin could work out how fast a 2005 V10 engine would be in with the blown diffuser aerodynamic package.

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I can't really remember the article that i read this but it said that F2004 was the fastest f1 car of all time (up to 2010) so i don't know if RB7 might be faster than F2004 but i don't think so...

Also the top 10 list included BAR Honda, Renault and Williams of 2004 plus Renault and McLaren of 2005. It comes to show you that the change from V10 to V8 really hampered their speed. Just imagine these cars with Double Blown Diffusers, DDRS, KERS, Turbo and most important Slick Tires... Small Rockets!!!

I can't really remember the article that i read this but it said that F2004 was the fastest f1 car of all time (up to 2010) so i don't know if RB7 might be faster than F2004 but i don't think so...

Also the top 10 list included BAR Honda, Renault and Williams of 2004 plus Renault and McLaren of 2005. It comes to show you that the change from V10 to V8 really hampered their speed. Just imagine these cars with Double Blown Diffusers, DDRS, KERS, Turbo and most important Slick Tires... Small Rockets!!!

Schumacher's pole at Monza 2000 was faster than the pole at Monza 2012!

Also Schumacher's pole at Malaysia 2002 was a second faster than Hamilton's at Malaysia 2012!

Never underestimate the power of the old formula one cars.

So what youre saying is the rules brought in to slow the cars down have slowed the cars down? *inaudible* me.

.....i think the off season is here

If it's so un-noteworthy you really don't have to reply you know.

The 2000 Monaco pole by Schumacher was over 5 seconds slower than his 2012 time (still pole), for example.

Two words: track design! I'm not sure they add up to over 5 seconds, but think of how much they have moved barriers away from apexes at Monaco at Ste Devote, the Swimming Pool, and the right left that follows. Also, in 2012, there was less traffic on the circuit with only 10 cars, it was easier to set fastest lap times on such a congested circuit as Monaco without being held up, when the rest were relegated to the pits, compared to past seasons.

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