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Things that Eric A. Meyer, CSS expert, writes about on his personal Web site; it's largely Web standards and Web technology, but also various bits of culture, politics, personal observations, and other miscellaneous stuffMon, 31 Jul 2017 18:18:00 +0000hourly1By: Debhttp://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/10/16/high-profile-cooking/#comment-553153
Sat, 30 Apr 2011 16:38:36 +0000http://meyerweb.com/?p=771#comment-553153Why would my Jenn-Air; double oven gas range spontaneously go into SABBATH mode? After all…I am a Methodist…we cook all the time! :)
]]>By: Rachelhttp://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/10/16/high-profile-cooking/#comment-551296
Sun, 24 Apr 2011 20:10:19 +0000http://meyerweb.com/?p=771#comment-551296Batia’s description of what goes on before Shabbos is entirely accurate. Batia is speaking the truth – she is obviously an observant Jew. B”H And to the poster who couldn’t believe there were that many Jews observing the Sabbath, yes, absolutely, there has always been a remnant of Jews who have kept all the laws and there is still that same remnant today. A small group, but definitely a strong one.
]]>By: Batiahttp://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/10/16/high-profile-cooking/#comment-413635
Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:48:53 +0000http://meyerweb.com/?p=771#comment-413635I don’t think you quite understand the interpretation of the Sabbath law here. Even on the Star K site, they say:

Note: The Sabbath mode does not allow us to turn these appliances on or off on the Sabbath. The Sabbath mode also does not allow us to use these appliances completely at will on Shabbos or Yom Tov. Rather, it enables us to use these appliances within the guidelines of halacha as delineated in the letters of certification (available from the Star-K office) or as posted in our appliance section.

Observant Jews do not push the buttons on a certified Kosher oven on the Sabbath. People who observe the Sabbath plan the Friday night and Shabbat day meals well in advance. It’s not like we’re thinking on Sabbath day, “oh I think I have a hankering for a piece of cake. I’ll just go make a cake now.” Instead we’re thinking on Friday morning, “oh and I better make sure we have cake for a special Shabbos treat.” We have the food cooked well before sundown Friday night. I use my top oven to keep the food warm, and my bottom oven for hot food the next day.

]]>By: Chrishttp://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/10/16/high-profile-cooking/#comment-239011
Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:04:55 +0000http://meyerweb.com/?p=771#comment-239011While thumbing through my owners manual on our GE oven I came across the Sabbath Feature too. Unfortunately, it did not give me a description and/or reason for this feature. Quite honestly the feature has been bugging me for a few days..so this evening I decided to ‘google’ and see what popped up! Here I am! Now I know what the Sabbath feature is, and why I would need to use it. Thanks! PS, I cant think of one reason why I would need it…unless I wanted to use it as a ‘slow cooker’ but my patience runs very thin when I have to cook for hours…so it will remain, Im afraid an un-used feature. :-)
]]>By: Eric Meyerhttp://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/10/16/high-profile-cooking/#comment-91267
Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:24:50 +0000http://meyerweb.com/?p=771#comment-91267Barbara, I never assumed you or those like you to be dumb or hypocritical, as I think a reading of my post will reveal. I’m all for people who are willing to work around inconvenient barriers, and not being religious myself, I do extend that to religious barriers. Hackers unite!

That said, your description of how Sabbath mode works is at odds with the instructions manual for the oven, my testing of Sabbath mode in the oven itself, and what’s described in the Wired article to which I linked. The oven we own has a time gramma built in, as described in the article. I tried out the mode when I found it, and it does indeed start up the oven at a random interval after the time and temperature are input, going up to about a minute. I can even cancel the settings, perhaps on the theory that pushing that button directly causes a lack of work. Not sure about that last, though.

So while leaving an oven on for 25 hours has long been a Sabbath hack, there are apparently more advanced hacks now, ones that allow for button-pushing on the Sabbath. I don’t know if they satisfy everyone’s reading of Sabbath law, but they’re apparently good enough for “the Star-K rabbinical authority, Moshe Heinemann” (from the Wired article).

]]>By: barbara jhttp://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/10/16/high-profile-cooking/#comment-91251
Mon, 12 Feb 2007 15:49:38 +0000http://meyerweb.com/?p=771#comment-91251You don’t understand the sabbath mode. An observant Jew sets it BEFORE the sabbath and leaves it on for 25 hours until after the sabbath and then turns it off. No buttons are pressed during shabbat.

It maintains the set temperature more or less during that time. If you open the oven to take something out (to warm something pre-cooked), the light will not turn on and the heating element will not automatically go on in response to the cool air from opening.

We frumskis are legalistic and obsessed, but not quite as dumb and hypocritical as you assumed.

]]>By: Tim Hatchhttp://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/10/16/high-profile-cooking/#comment-66340
Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:57:55 +0000http://meyerweb.com/?p=771#comment-66340I see you decided to go with an electric. We should see where everybody is next Web Jam and see if any others defect from gas.
]]>By: Mark Bradbournehttp://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/10/16/high-profile-cooking/#comment-64064
Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:52:03 +0000http://meyerweb.com/?p=771#comment-64064All I could picture was Ozzy wandering around your kitchen mumbling incoherently…
]]>By: Joehttp://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/10/16/high-profile-cooking/#comment-63885
Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:04:23 +0000http://meyerweb.com/?p=771#comment-63885Sabbath mode? That is both hilarious and slightly disturbing. Are there that many people out there that observe the Sabbath and must use their over on that day? I guess so for them to take the time on this over. Thanks for the article.
]]>By: Carl Camerahttp://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/10/16/high-profile-cooking/#comment-63859
Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:35:24 +0000http://meyerweb.com/?p=771#comment-63859The appliance industry is an excellent example of standards done correctly. The appliance industry has set for itself strict standards on size and color, so the GE bisque matches the Kenmore bisque matches the Bosche bisque. The consumer benefits. Kat is free to choose from many different brands based on their individual features without worrying whether they will match her existing appliances.
]]>By: Ginihttp://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/10/16/high-profile-cooking/#comment-63827
Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:27:58 +0000http://meyerweb.com/?p=771#comment-63827Dude, I have serious oven envy. It is a nice compliment to my counterspace envy and cupboard envy. I know you guys want to redo the kitchen, but even now, it’s vastly superior to what we’ve got!
]]>By: Tanny O'Haleyhttp://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/10/16/high-profile-cooking/#comment-63755
Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:28:12 +0000http://meyerweb.com/?p=771#comment-63755@jgraham,

Alton Brown cooks in a studio. He used to cook in his producer’s kitchen till they got a cease and desist order from a neighbor.

Eric,

The probe thermometer works really well with a Turkey at Thanksgiving. I have a convection oven with a probe thermometer and the Turkey cooked in less time, had moist white meat and fully cooked dark meat. I didn’t even have to use Alton’s shield (sorry, inside joke).

]]>By: Colin D. Devroehttp://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/10/16/high-profile-cooking/#comment-63313
Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:14:56 +0000http://meyerweb.com/?p=771#comment-63313I’m in desperate need of a newer, much more efficient, oven. I appreciate you jotting this down.
]]>By: Laurahttp://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/10/16/high-profile-cooking/#comment-63308
Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:19:27 +0000http://meyerweb.com/?p=771#comment-63308Mazal tov on your new oven. I never heard of such a Sabbath saving feature, but that’s pretty neat. You can probably use it to make a mean Cholent or slow-cooking sabbath stew. Check out the recipe links at the bottom of my blog.
Bon appetit!
]]>By: Deanhttp://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/10/16/high-profile-cooking/#comment-63307
Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:16:03 +0000http://meyerweb.com/?p=771#comment-63307I hear there is a Catholic “Indulgences” model too!
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