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Never mind the other issue I have with it which is that lesbians are positively reinforcing action that encourages members of their population to become one of the group that receives this so-called "male privilege".That attitude, in my mind, undoes a lot of what feminism has achieved. Max This issue came up a few weeks back on a British lesbian message board I frequent.He was an amateur MMA fighter, came from the hood — apparently a former gang member, as I learned later. We’re the dirty little secrets who get calls only after hours.It wasn’t that he necessarily made me feel threatened, but I knew the statistics. No matter how beautiful, intelligent, or successful, we are the ones who have to settle for being nothing more than receptacles for men’s desires and insecurities. “I’m a transgender woman.” I emphasized the woman part.Is this somewhat hard line "ovaries or out" attitude among gay women for real, or was my friend blowing smoke? Unfortunatly, even minority groups are not impervious to discrimination, and I have heard of lots of cases where the distinction has been made between "bio-women" and "mtf-women".Obviously this leaves especially mtf-lesbians in rather a difficult and lonely situation. There are actually people out there who believe that MTF folk have some sort of "male privilege". This is one of the very few things that makes me unspeakably mad.

Hopefully you will all have fun meeting singles and try out this online dating thing...I would however add the caveat that not all gay women discriminate (or feel uncomfortable with or whatever) against mtf-women, but shamefully, I can't say that it is an uncommon problem. There are others who openly discriminate against MTF people - the michigan's women's (oh excuse me, wymyn's) music festival makes a distinction between "real" women and male-born women. I find it incredibly offensive that lesbians, a marginalised community themselves, have no problems discriminating against another group of people. Ironically, there is an undercurrent in the lesbian community that is almost iconising the FTM and drag kings (no these are not the same thing, but the trend appears to be the same for both). If we want to talk about lesbians doing bizarre stuff, let's talk about lesbians iconising women who are becoming men!MTF lesbians, as Iteki pointed out, are particularly shunned. Let me clarify: I have no problem with FTM or MTF people (insert obligatory "some of my best friends"... I just see an irony in MTFs being shunned from the lesbian community whilst FTMs are being welcomed with open arms. He had just moved to Atlanta from Chicago and had this whole stereotypical macho thing about him. We’d just met, so I can only imagine the infinite possibilities swirling in his head.