Is this assuming every atheist is the same? I don't think I'm just like every other atheist any more than I was just like every other christian when I was a believer. Have I missed something? Is there a rulebook or a decoder ring to being a nonbeliever? Why can't people just relate to people as individuals. We both like Italian food - Yay. You like the Red Sox - Boo. I like Ozzy, You like the Beach Boys, Can we settle on Bon Jovi? You believe in something by faith but I need evidence - let's agree to disagree and go get some pizza.

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It doesn't make sense to let go of something you've had for so long. But it also doesn't make sense to hold on when there's actually nothing there.

Is this assuming every atheist is the same? I don't think I'm just like every other atheist any more than I was just like every other christian when I was a believer. Have I missed something? Is there a rulebook or a decoder ring to being a nonbeliever? Why can't people just relate to people as individuals. We both like Italian food - Yay. You like the Red Sox - Boo. I like Ozzy, You like the Beach Boys, Can we settle on Bon Jovi? You believe in something by faith but I need evidence - let's agree to disagree and go get some pizza.

As the author of this book, I can tell you that no, I don't assume every atheist is the same and that is made clear in the book. I also don't assume every religious person is the same. What I am trying to do is allow believers into the mind and experiences of an atheist to better tell the story of what it's like to be one, in an effort to bridge the gap between believers and nonbelievers within families and among friends.

I've been poking around on your website, partially to avoid doing the homework I really should be doing and partially because the SoC&S is a Very Big Deal to me. Looking forward to reading your book!

Hi Jag. Glad you found the site! I appreciate your support. I'm hoping to have the book available early next year. I'll have updates on dividedundergod.com and understandinganatheist.com. You can also like the FB page /dividedundergod and follow on twitter @dividedundergod for updates.

I've been poking around on your website, partially to avoid doing the homework I really should be doing and partially because the SoC&S is a Very Big Deal to me. Looking forward to reading your book!

Hi Jag. Glad you found the site! I appreciate your support. I'm hoping to have the book available early next year. I'll have updates on dividedundergod.com and understandinganatheist.com. You can also like the FB page /dividedundergod and follow on twitter @dividedundergod for updates.

"Glad you found the site"? The links in the OP. I think you mean, "Glad you went to the site".

-Nam

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I've been poking around on your website, partially to avoid doing the homework I really should be doing and partially because the SoC&S is a Very Big Deal to me. Looking forward to reading your book!

Man I hate it when people talk in acronyms. What does SoC&S mean?

I see that Divided has already cleared this up. Apologies for the confusing shorthand - I fell into the habit during a poli-sci class that had me using the term all the freaking time in writing. I used a macro to correct it in assignments I had to submit - I'll do better about including the right words when I shorthand terms going forward.

@Nam - the book has it's own site, which is where the link takes you. There's a separate site with blog posts; that's what we're both referring to.

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I've been poking around on your website, partially to avoid doing the homework I really should be doing and partially because the SoC&S is a Very Big Deal to me. Looking forward to reading your book!

Man I hate it when people talk in acronyms. What does SoC&S mean?

I see that Divided has already cleared this up. Apologies for the confusing shorthand - I fell into the habit during a poli-sci class that had me using the term all the freaking time in writing. I used a macro to correct it in assignments I had to submit - I'll do better about including the right words when I shorthand terms going forward.

@Nam - the book has it's own site, which is where the link takes you. There's a separate site with blog posts; that's what we're both referring to.

Which the link provides above. It's not like you went to Google to look up, it was linked at the website.

I'm in a bad mood today[1]. Plus, I dislike OP's that just have links. Some of us can't click on every link, and even if we could, the OP should have more than just a link. We expect more from theists when they do it, we should hold the same standard for ourselves.

Interestingly I've found the biggest chunk of atheists I've met IRL to be the "mercenary singers" (singers with mad skills but no affiliation with the church brought in by the director) in the church choir I was in.

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It doesn't make sense to let go of something you've had for so long. But it also doesn't make sense to hold on when there's actually nothing there.

The book looks interesting - thanks for the work. I do wonder what your experience has been with theists actually taking the time to read such a book? I'm fairly new to the atheist road show (about a year - after deconverting from 35 yrs of theism), but I've yet to run into a theist IRL who will do me the common courtesy of reading anything I refer them to or bothering to have an in-depth conversation about it.

Most all of my friends and all of my family are theists - none really care about "why" I'm an atheist but prefer to just pray for me to see the light or offer any number of books to me in order to bring me back into the cult.

I hope your book helps to change that in some way. Good luck

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If xian hell really exists, the stench of the burning billions of us should be a constant, putrid reminder to the handful of heavenward xians how loving your god is. - neopagan

Interestingly I've found the biggest chunk of atheists I've met IRL to be the "mercenary singers" (singers with mad skills but no affiliation with the church brought in by the director) in the church choir I was in.

The book looks interesting - thanks for the work. I do wonder what your experience has been with theists actually taking the time to read such a book? I'm fairly new to the atheist road show (about a year - after deconverting from 35 yrs of theism), but I've yet to run into a theist IRL who will do me the common courtesy of reading anything I refer them to or bothering to have an in-depth conversation about it.

Most all of my friends and all of my family are theists - none really care about "why" I'm an atheist but prefer to just pray for me to see the light or offer any number of books to me in order to bring me back into the cult.

I hope your book helps to change that in some way. Good luck

Hey Neo,

They're definitely out there. Surprisingly enough, I've posted about this book in several Christian Facebook groups and have had some positive feedback. Theists who are close to me have committed to reading it, though I'm sure knowing me has something to do with that. But yeah, they're out there. Many religious people are too closed-minded for something like this, but many are willing to check it out, especially those who have a familial struggle going on. I truly hope there are a few people out there who this can help, and if it takes the atheists in their lives begging them to read it, then so be it. Ideally, I'd love for religious folks to pick it up on their own though.

Interestingly I've found the biggest chunk of atheists I've met IRL to be the "mercenary singers" (singers with mad skills but no affiliation with the church brought in by the director) in the church choir I was in.

Pleeeease........stop this people.

Sorry, dude. thought that one was common knowledge. I've seen it used on the forum before without protest. It means "in real life."

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It doesn't make sense to let go of something you've had for so long. But it also doesn't make sense to hold on when there's actually nothing there.

<snip>What I am trying to do is allow believers into the mind and experiences of an atheist to better tell the story of what it's like to be one, in an effort to bridge the gap between believers and nonbelievers within families and among friends.

I'm looking forward to reading it, and I think there is a good demographic of theists who would be interested. The past few years have been a real "awakening" for atheists, from my point of view - meaning you (the general "you") see them more and more - hiding is no longer necessary (for the most part). Theists are going to have to deal with this more and more.

Anyway, best of luck with your book - it looks very interesting!

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"Any system of religion that has anything in it that shocks the mind of a child, cannot be true. " ~ Thomas Paine

<snip>What I am trying to do is allow believers into the mind and experiences of an atheist to better tell the story of what it's like to be one, in an effort to bridge the gap between believers and nonbelievers within families and among friends.

I'm looking forward to reading it, and I think there is a good demographic of theists who would be interested. The past few years have been a real "awakening" for atheists, from my point of view - meaning you (the general "you") see them more and more - hiding is no longer necessary (for the most part). Theists are going to have to deal with this more and more.