Comments - Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence in the House of God - Atheist Nexus2016-12-09T17:59:36Zhttp://atheistnexus.org/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=2182797%3ABlogPost%3A2157778&xn_auth=noHonestly, Kelly, I'd be dubio…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-02-25:2182797:Comment:21700782013-02-25T18:01:17.379ZLoren Millerhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/LorenMiller
<p>Honestly, Kelly, I'd be dubious that there is a connection between the release of <em>Mea Maxima Culpa</em> and Joe the Rat's abdication. I DO think that all the pressure that is coming to bear on the RCC regarding the increasing number of reported cases of child abuse by priests IS weighing on him and has ever since he was elected pontiff.<br></br><br></br>The sad fact is that Vatican City is in desperate need of a top-to-bottom housecleaning, yet it's extremely unlikely that it will get it. The…</p>
<p>Honestly, Kelly, I'd be dubious that there is a connection between the release of <em>Mea Maxima Culpa</em> and Joe the Rat's abdication. I DO think that all the pressure that is coming to bear on the RCC regarding the increasing number of reported cases of child abuse by priests IS weighing on him and has ever since he was elected pontiff.<br/><br/>The sad fact is that Vatican City is in desperate need of a top-to-bottom housecleaning, yet it's extremely unlikely that it will get it. The next pope will likely carry on the same way that JPII and Bennie the Dick did ... <strong>until and unless pressure is brought to force them to do otherwise</strong>.<br/><br/>People have to be shaken out of their indifference and naivete. The supposed sanctity and inherent goodness of the church and its representatives needs to be disposed of. Most of all, the catholic church needs to be held as accountable for their actions as any other organization, guilty of similar transgressions, would be held. There is NO REASON why they should be exempt from being subject to the rule of law, other than people's own hesitance to pursue justice against them.<br/><br/>Tall order, I know, but there it is.</p> I was completely disturbed by…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-02-25:2182797:Comment:21699092013-02-25T17:46:32.771ZBimmerellahttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/KellyM
<p>I was completely disturbed by this film as well! What's going on in the Catholic church is what has been going on for centuries and is a prime example of the fact that religion not promoting the well being of its followers, but of itself....and at all costs. There has NEVER been a more clear case of how dangerous being educated and informed is to religion, and it shows in the steady decline of religion and in particular the catholic church. It has been happening in Europe for awhile now, and…</p>
<p>I was completely disturbed by this film as well! What's going on in the Catholic church is what has been going on for centuries and is a prime example of the fact that religion not promoting the well being of its followers, but of itself....and at all costs. There has NEVER been a more clear case of how dangerous being educated and informed is to religion, and it shows in the steady decline of religion and in particular the catholic church. It has been happening in Europe for awhile now, and now in the US. On the other end, there has been a steady increase in 3rd world nations, where the people are uneducated and poor. I was raised catholic and there are progressive priests within the church who are pushing for major reforms, like birth control, women in the clergy and allowing priests to marry, however I can tell you, they are outcasts and one I have known for YEARS, is on the verge of being excommunicated for his views. At any rate this was a VERY GOOD film! </p>
<p>Loren, do you find it a bit strange that the pope decided to retire the very month this film aired on HBO and outed him for his utter failure to act on ANY of these issues presented to him?? I particularly found the statements the pope made about this issue only showed concern for the priests and not once acknowledging concern for the victims involved in this abomination! It should outrage EVERY PARENT ON THIS PLANET THAT LOVES THEIR CHILDREN!!!!!! </p> Yeah, his days are numbered .…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-02-11:2182797:Comment:21616402013-02-11T21:47:14.817ZLoren Millerhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/LorenMiller
<p>Yeah, his days are numbered ... and whatever time he has remaining will go to prayer and meditation and all that happy <em>hasenpfeffer</em> when it SHOULD be spent doing the same thing ... <strong>BEHIND BARS</strong>.<br/><br/>Meantime, like Christopher Hitchens once said, I await the day when the state of <em>tempe sede vacante,</em> which will obtain when Bennie the Dick abdicates, becomes PERMANENT.</p>
<p>Yeah, his days are numbered ... and whatever time he has remaining will go to prayer and meditation and all that happy <em>hasenpfeffer</em> when it SHOULD be spent doing the same thing ... <strong>BEHIND BARS</strong>.<br/><br/>Meantime, like Christopher Hitchens once said, I await the day when the state of <em>tempe sede vacante,</em> which will obtain when Bennie the Dick abdicates, becomes PERMANENT.</p> Turns out that Joey "The Rat"…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-02-11:2182797:Comment:21615422013-02-11T21:15:36.062ZPathttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Pat46
<p>Turns out that Joey "The Rat" Ratzinger's days are numbers. Then again, I suppose its like getting rid of Paul Castellano - head of the Gambini Family - and replacing him with John Gotti.</p>
<p>Turns out that Joey "The Rat" Ratzinger's days are numbers. Then again, I suppose its like getting rid of Paul Castellano - head of the Gambini Family - and replacing him with John Gotti.</p> Tim Minchen at least has the…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-02-10:2182797:Comment:21611682013-02-10T18:34:28.538ZLoren Millerhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/LorenMiller
<p>Tim Minchen at least has the balls to call a spade a spade with that song. I find that I am at once amused and disturbed by it, reactions which I think are completely appropriate.<br></br><br></br>Fact is, if people are just offended by the actions of the catholic church, it's clear that their offense hasn't risen to the level where they feel that action is necessary, or they are intimidated by an organization which only has power because those same people have granted that unearned authority to…</p>
<p>Tim Minchen at least has the balls to call a spade a spade with that song. I find that I am at once amused and disturbed by it, reactions which I think are completely appropriate.<br/><br/>Fact is, if people are just offended by the actions of the catholic church, it's clear that their offense hasn't risen to the level where they feel that action is necessary, or they are intimidated by an organization which only has power because those same people have granted that unearned authority to them.<br/><br/>It's time that authority was <strong>REVOKED</strong>.</p> Cartoons and pix like that do…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-02-10:2182797:Comment:21612282013-02-10T18:07:26.139ZLoren Millerhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/LorenMiller
<p>Cartoons and pix like that don't offend me, but then, I'm not someone who would let a similar picture attacking someone like Sam Harris or Christopher Hitchens bother me. People who let pictures or words raise their hackles are sad sacks, and I will not be numbered among them.<br></br><br></br>I AM more than just offended by the RC church - I am incensed and angered by their actions and their presumption from a position of supposed piety. I may be angered even more so by those who see the actions…</p>
<p>Cartoons and pix like that don't offend me, but then, I'm not someone who would let a similar picture attacking someone like Sam Harris or Christopher Hitchens bother me. People who let pictures or words raise their hackles are sad sacks, and I will not be numbered among them.<br/><br/>I AM more than just offended by the RC church - I am incensed and angered by their actions and their presumption from a position of supposed piety. I may be angered even more so by those who see the actions of Fr. Mahony or Murphy, and while they wring their hands and wonder at "how could anyone do such a thing," <strong>They Do NOTHING About It!</strong><br/><br/>And until we can move a sufficient number of such people off their uninvolved asses, the <em>status quo</em> of priests abusing children and largely getting away with it will continue to obtain.</p> well i hope i didn't offend L…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-02-10:2182797:Comment:21610612013-02-10T18:05:11.390Zmatthew greenberghttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/matthewgreenberg
<p>well i hope i didn't offend Loren. this is a serious issue, not a laughing matter. that's why i've avoided posting Tim Minchin's pope song in this thread, although it would be quite relevant. fuck the motherfuckers!!</p>
<p>well i hope i didn't offend Loren. this is a serious issue, not a laughing matter. that's why i've avoided posting Tim Minchin's pope song in this thread, although it would be quite relevant. fuck the motherfuckers!!</p> hope i didn't offend. I hope…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-02-10:2182797:Comment:21611612013-02-10T17:59:42.486ZPathttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Pat46
<p><em>hope i didn't offend. </em>I hope you did!</p>
<p><em>hope i didn't offend. </em>I hope you did!</p> if you're gonna be a curmudge…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-02-10:2182797:Comment:21610082013-02-10T17:36:34.433Zmatthew greenberghttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/matthewgreenberg
<p>if you're gonna be a curmudgeon this is an issue to feel that way about. i was watching the documentary this morning and was struck by how much he looks like the sith lord. when i went to see if anyone else had thought that i found this pic. hope i didn't offend. </p>
<p>if you're gonna be a curmudgeon this is an issue to feel that way about. i was watching the documentary this morning and was struck by how much he looks like the sith lord. when i went to see if anyone else had thought that i found this pic. hope i didn't offend. </p> The perfidy of Joe the Rat is…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-02-10:2182797:Comment:21610072013-02-10T17:26:51.171ZLoren Millerhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/LorenMiller
<p>The perfidy of Joe the Rat is made all the more egregious by the fact that he himself ordered all reported cases of priest child abuse to be forwarded to his desk while he was a cardinal in Rome ... where, for all intents and purposes, <strong>He Has Done NOTHING About Them</strong>, certainly not anything which the general public can discern as being effective in countering this disturbing practice.<br></br><br></br>Call me a curmudgeon if you want, but I can't laugh at pictures like the one you…</p>
<p>The perfidy of Joe the Rat is made all the more egregious by the fact that he himself ordered all reported cases of priest child abuse to be forwarded to his desk while he was a cardinal in Rome ... where, for all intents and purposes, <strong>He Has Done NOTHING About Them</strong>, certainly not anything which the general public can discern as being effective in countering this disturbing practice.<br/><br/>Call me a curmudgeon if you want, but I can't laugh at pictures like the one you post, Matthew. It's just too close to the truth to be funny.</p>