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Fox now has the 16:9 on 14-1 (they quit the cropped crap) and a weather loop on 14-2 (last I looked)

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Talked to someone at KTSM and said they're pushing to have NBC in HD just in time for the olympics so we shall see...

I'll be lieve that when I see it

You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe.

I was just about to report the same thing as you guys...I guess I got beat to it
Also got a few questions for you guys..

I saw my HDTV in primetime today a little bit to see which shows where on HDTV..and I noticed that CH 4 was in HD showing i believe JAG in nice 16:9 HD..but i also noticed that CH 7 which was supposed to be showing their primetime shows in HD was only showing them in 4:3...again...whats up with that?? Infact I havent seen any HD programming on CH 7 lately..anyone else notice this?

I also noticed the new CH 14-1 on 16:9..anyone know if its gonna be showing any HD programming anytime soon? The title for channel CH 14 (14-1) on my HD reciever now says "KFOX High Definition", anyone know if this means that they are HD ready now?
Also CH 14-2 is now KFOX-WX it shows pure weather radar stuff..which can be useful on stormy days.

The PBS HD channel (13) hasn't been showing up for me lately..is it only on sometimes..and not all day? I would like to check it out one of these days if its in HD.

CH 9 still looks like crap on 4:3..i dont think these guys will be ready for the olympics..i dont think they'll be ready til next year or so

Update on PBS CH 13...I was able to pick it up again..but the signal keeps dropping out regularly, anyone else have this problem?

13-1 is now PBS-HD ..which is a national feed of pure PBS programming in High Definition. I had this channel back when I lived in Los Angeles on 28-1..It had some pretty cool documentaries in awesome HD.
13-2 is CH 13 KCOS DT in regualar 4:3..hopefully it will become HD soon.
13-3 and 13-4 show nothing for me.

Originally posted by jmh28Still no luck with NBC on the west side, any idea who at KTSM is a good point of contact? I get every other digital channel perfect, nothing-- no droouts, no signal with NBC.

I moved teh Silver Sensor to the highest point in the attic this weekend without an inprovement.

Any thoughts?

I cant see why you wouldnt be able to get the NBC signal in West El Paso? I get a strong 94 signal on my VOOM reciever..have you thought about maybe getting a different antenna to try out? or maybe a pre-amp? my pre-amp helped me out tons when i lived in LA.

Come to think of it, my old HDTV reciever doesnt seem to get nbc very well either no matter what i try..though i do atleast get a low signal on it and lots of drop out. (Dont know if this info helps?)

Well good luck to you bud, hopefully you can pull in the nbc hdtv soon. the olympics (though they are just replays over and over) look awesome in hdtv.

are the people at KTSM (NBC) just complete MORONS? Once the Olympics finished, I have yet to see a SINGLE HD program on the digital feed? Mind you they're IS a 16:9 digital signal.. but it's all STRETCHED 4:3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EVEN THE PROGRAMS THAT SHOULD BE HD!!!!!!!!! (lovely washed out, short/fat American Dreams tonight).

KFOX (FOX) is doing the same thing on the (what should be) 4:3 shows, but at least is passing the 16:9 HD signals....

ARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe.

WOW!! Sounds like all of the station there still have their stuff scattered. I escaped many years ago (in '85) but my folks still live there. I was considering trying to convince my Dad to buy an HD set so he can watch football in HD while I am in town for Thanksgiving. Reading thru your posts, I really don't think it would be a good experience for him. Not trying to rub it in but living in the DFW area, things are great. Last Monday night, I was flipping thru all of the OTA HD channels (Greenbay was getting thumped) and FOX, NBC, CBC, ABC, WB, and PBS were all showing HD programming. It was awesome. Where are the towers located that transmit HD? Co-located up on Franklin? My folks live on the Eastside. How is the reception there? I checked http://www.antennaweb.org and it seems that the majority of the towers are indeed on Franklin and even closer than the towers I get in Rockwall (little suburb of Dallas) but sounds like you are having major troubles. Can anyone pull in the Alamogordo stations (31, 34,59)? Thanks!

You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe.

You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe.

I live in Las Cruces and I have been able to get Fox (14.1, 14.2) ABC (7.1) and CBS (4.1) in the past. Recently, I have not been able to get any of the FOX OTA channels at all. Are any of you local people having the same issue? Also, have any of you applied for waivers to get the national HD feeds?

yeah i live in the four hills area by del ray and i can only get cbs at a 25% signal but i am using a silver sensor which is indoor. Oh and I sent fox an email and they said they are waiting on a part to get here to fix the transmitter. I am also able to get pbs so its strange that you cannot.

Originally posted by sf49ersnflyeah i live in the four hills area by del ray and i can only get cbs at a 25% signal but i am using a silver sensor which is indoor. Oh and I sent fox an email and they said they are waiting on a part to get here to fix the transmitter. I am also able to get pbs so its strange that you cannot.

I started with a Silver Sensor that I picked up at Sears, but I could only get Fox. But once I put up the RadioShack "FlyingWing" (that is what the antenna looks like) I was able to pick up CBS and ABC as well.

I get PBS sometimes, but not always.

PS: Sorry about the 49ers this year. I am huge Steelers fan and I am riding pretty high right now.

yeah its been painful to watch the 49ers this year. I think i might try that antenna it sounds like a good deal because im missing monday night and all the cbs games. I might try this indoor from wal mart it has a 45db amplifier http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=2625059

Originally posted by sf49ersnflinteresting I guess im just in a bad spot and have to wait for the networks to go full power does anyone know when that is?

If you can get a bigger outdoor antenna and maybe a pre-amp you should be able to pick up most, if not all of the EP/LC channels. I'm thinking of getting a Radio Shack outdoor antenna, I used to use one in north Los Angeles (40 miles away from TV CH antennas) that worked very well.

Also I'm not sure when the TV channels in El Paso are going to go full power. I thought they already were at full power

Nice to find this group. I have been getting OTA HDTV for a month or so now. I have not been to resolve the "no audio" problem I am having with KTSM. Is anyone else getting KTSM (9-1) without audio? I can get every other channel with audio no problem. What I get with KTSM is a "blurb" of audio, sometimes, and then nothing. There is only one audio channel so I can't switch that around like I can with KVIA. I have a USDTV receiver and a Jensen TV920 indoor antenna. I'm in the NE and can pick up all the channels I could expect and want, the only issue I have is the lack of audio from KTSM. When I called, they told me they are broadcasting and its my equipment. It just works with everyone else's broadcast. USDTV has been very helpful (the box manufacturer) and is sending me the diagnostic hardware/software I need to see what kind of audio feed KTSM is broadcasting and what I can do on my end to fix the problem. Thanks!

mkztg, I can get KTSM really well with audio on a voom HDTV receiver that I have, but on an older RCA receiver that I use once in a while the only channel that gives me problems is KTSM, both video and audio problems. All the other channels work great, but KTSM doesnt work well at all. I think its KTSM's crappy HD signal, but who knows?