"We've moved on, but we'll never forget what first brought us all together. And so, we remember the Balrog."

"He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God." - Aeschylus

"He walked into mid-autumn, hearing nothing but the winds. One night as he sat before his fire, vaguely feeling the winds urge against his shape, he looked down and saw the starred harp in his hands ..." (Mckillip, The Riddle Master trilogy)

Ok guys, we'll get to work on this soon. We've been on vacation and our internet has been screwed up at home (seems to be ok for the moment, cross fingers lol). That makes it a little hard to work on this place Regardless, we have to get the url set up, get a front page in place and then move this forum to there. It's going to take a little bit to do that, especially as we are out of town again this weekend so bear with us

shireling wrote:This just came to me...as corny as Kansas in August, but sincere

"We've moved on, but we'll never forget what first brought us all together. And so, we remember the Balrog."

Great. I just vomitted in my own mouth.

If we're going with Remember the Balrog, why not just stop wasting our time and close this place down, and move back to RB? Honest to Christ; what's the difference - they'll both be dead forums apart from one thread called The Ivy Bush.

I'm honestly at a loss as to why this site has been created. I really had high hopes for this site too. Looks like I will be one of the first to join and the first to officially resign - it frustrates me to see the same blatant mistakes being made all over again.

"He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God." - Aeschylus

I'm not leaving or anything, but Shuggy does have a quite valid point. Remember the Balrog is not only genre specific, but it's pretty much Tolkien specific. Balrogs don't feature very much in other fantasy. It seems to be losing the whole reason for a move away from Ringbearer as a name.

I know if we keep talking about things we'll go round and round and never move, because there are so many different viewpoints. It almost seems it would be better to select a smaller group of people who will then decide on a name and it will be final.

Unless Remember the Balrog *is* final, in which case ok. But if so, I must agree with Shuggy that I think it won't be doing us any favors in the 'new and improved' area.

"The world of books is the most remarkable creation of man. Nothing else that he builds ever lasts. Monuments fall, nations perish, civilizations grow old and die out, and after an era of darkness new races build others. But in the world of books are volumes that have seen this happen again and again and yet live on, still young, still as fresh as the day they were written, still telling men's hearts of the hearts of men centuries dead."

v0id wrote:Out of all of those suggested, 'RemembertheBalrog' is the only one that isn't 'taken'. So the community gets its own identity.

...but hey, who cares about the opinion of lil' ole lurker me. :/

I did some research about site name availability (it's towards the bottom of the first page) and there are several options other than "rememberthebalrog" still available. "FantastiCosmos" in particular is a unique moniker in English google searches. So availability is not a major issue in selection.

I wanted this to be a group decision rather than mods choosing the name for a reason, but I see that it's just caused more chaos this way I'm tired of making the decisions, someone just tell me what to do please.