Normally I'd feel you, but I don't really like the starters in the 5th generation, and I've always found alternatives.

Fire-Fighting's alright (and, ironically, I felt it was my only option whether I liked the pokemon or not). And when you've got half the entire pokedex due to amazing pokemon from Dream World, shuffling gets a lot easier!

Fire-Fighting's alright (and, ironically, I felt it was my only option whether I liked the pokemon or not). And when you've got half the entire pokedex due to amazing pokemon from Dream World, shuffling gets a lot easier!

i have every pokemon in existence and all forms. i am teh king of shuffle!

"I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon

Blaziken and Excadrill are better, and don't have the horrible Grass typing.

Again, different roles. Excadrill is a banned sweeper, Ferrothorn is used for setting up Spikes and Stealth Rock primarily, and then force the opponent to switch out by spamming Leech Seed. It also has only 1 weakness; Fire. Breloom uses Stun Spore and Leech Seed at its disposal, and doesn't have the ridiculous Earthquake weakness. Different kinds of Pokémon.

Fire-Fighting's alright (and, ironically, I felt it was my only option whether I liked the pokemon or not). And when you've got half the entire pokedex due to amazing pokemon from Dream World, shuffling gets a lot easier!

That's true, but I always found Emboar to be boring at best, and I'd much rather have someone I like on my team (while not handicapping myself).

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Blaziken and Excadrill are better, and don't have the horrible Grass typing.

Mewtwo and Arceus are also better if you wanna name Pokemon from a Tier above. Not to mention that they have completely different roles. You are acting like any team just needs 6 sweepers. And again, you're ignoring Movesets and abilities. Please stop tralking like you know everythng about competetive battling when clearly you don't.

And Fighting, and the only reason for this is that Steel's an amazingly defensive type making up for Grass being horrible.

But is weak to Flying twice, Fire, Poison, Ice and Psychic.

Agree with different kinds of Pokemon, you can say that for all 600+ of them, though.

The big minus with being a Fire-type is that Earthquake is one of the most common moves, and they're easily offed by Pokémon like Excadrill and Garchomp, top tier Pokémon. Flying and Poison are very uncommon moves, only Brave Bird and Sludge Wave sees SOME uses out of those two, which benefits Breloom.

And again, with Ferrothorn, the Grass counterpart makes up for the Steel type's weakness to Ground, which makes it a perfect counter to Garchomp and Excadrill. In that case, it's highly beneficial that it's Grass. Plus, as I said before, can't ignore the Leech Seed, which is the whole reason it is so strong to start with, while Power Whip is also pretty good on it.

If any types are getting the short end of the stick, it's Fire and Flying types, just because of their weakness to Stealth Rock, which is a must-have move on any team these days. That's why Infernape and Emboar are Fire and Fighting, because Fighting is strong against Rock, I can guarantee you that's why Emboar is at least, so that it is actually viable (turns out that its move pool and Speed made it suck regardless.) In this case Charizard is actually one of the worst Pokémon in the game, it can work on a Sunny Day team and with a Choice Scarf, but that's only to try and 1-hit some Pokémon with Flamethrower, or specifically to counter Ferrothorn. But as soon as Stealth Rock has been set up, he'll lose 50% of his HP upon entering battle, and he's pretty much done for right there. Fire and Flying types lose 25% HP upon entering a battle where Stealth Rock has been set up, which is why you won't see any Fire or Flying types get any use unless their dual-type has a resistance to Rock (like Heatran and Gliscor.) The only exception to this would be Ninetails, and it's usually only used to open with to get Drought going on Sunny Day teams, it also has high defenses to make up for an Earthquake.

double weaknesses really dont mean much to be honest...unless your an abomisnow...i mean look at scizor, for 4 gens he has been the best scout in the game. and the reason breloom is overused is thanks to the very same ability scizor has..thats technician. thanks to an adamant nature and bullet seed. breloom potentially has the best attack in the game.

double weaknesses really dont mean much to be honest...unless your an abomisnow...i mean look at scizor, for 4 gens he has been the best scout in the game. and the reason breloom is overused is thanks to the very same ability scizor has..thats technician. thanks to an adamant nature and bullet seed. breloom potentially has the best attack in the game.

And let's not forget spore. Which puts the enemy to sleep 100%. So if you're faster than your opponent, you can put him to sleep no matter what, which gives you s free turn to set up a Swords Dance.

nope, thats the thing about pokemon, takes forever for news to come out.

"I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon

But yeah, with B/W it took almost 3 months for snivy's / oshawott's 2nd evos to get leaked (I assume it was a leak, as it was some beta art) and after 5 months every starter evolution got leaked.
X/Y got announced 8th of January so that was a bit more than 3 months ago. Hopefully we get some good leaks this time too.

But yeah, with B/W it took almost 3 months for snivy's / oshawott's 2nd evos to get leaked (I assume it was a leak, as it was some beta art) and after 5 months every starter evolution got leaked.
X/Y got announced 8th of January so that was a bit more than 3 months ago. Hopefully we get some good leaks this time too.

i really hope chespin doesnt turn into something ugly

poor oshawott, went from this

to this

hopefully chespin doesnt end up like this

"I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon

i wasnt dissing digimon i was just gonna see if anyone noticed ^-^ i think the digimon anime is miles ahead of the pokemon one, cant wait for fusion to come out.

but samurott definitely looks just like ikkakumon

"I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon