Sir Walter Raleigh declared in the early 17th century that "whoever commands the sea, commands the trade; whosoever commands the trade of the world commands the riches of the world, and consequently the world itself." This principle is as true today as when uttered, and its effect will continue as long as ships traverse the seas."

LE

Well look what happened with the Jackal, a minor thing but still a cockup nontheless. The driver and weapon mounting were in the perfect position where the driver would receive the muzzle blast of the firing weapon. Surely that would have been discovered during testing?

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LE

I had a look at this stuff last year on HET. It provides better protection all round. Its stand-off, as can be seen by pics and those that probably got close to it at DVD. Hopefully it will find itself on other TES type vehicles reducing its width profile then we can drive them on UK roads....better training hopefully!

"What makes you think you can come in here and mug me off in front of my pals?"
Billy Bright, The Football Factory

LE

yes a piece of copper hitting you at 4km/s isn't great. but reality is that the old stuff didn't stop that either. this is the bars we're talking about, not the armour itself.

anyway, regardless. the effectiveness of the crew is reduced by copper travelling 4 km/s. their effectiveness is also impaired, especially in the desert, by taking f-all water because it doesn't fit inside. personaly I don't think that strapping a few jerry cans on the side really takes the bars from providing complete 100% protection to jack all.

my friend is going to ask you some questions. personally, I hope you don't answer them because I want you to die in here and end up inside a pork pie!

LE

The way that bar armour works is hardly classified, but often misunderstood. It catches the warhead and prevents it detonating. In this way it is intended to defeat a shaped charge that generates a jet of copper travelling at more or less 4km/s (different velocities down the length of the jet). Water and assorted bric-a-brac or even steel plates up to a foot thick aren't going to realistically stop that. The problem is that they are enough to detonate the warhead before the bars can catch it.

At some point you have to balance tactical effectiveness and logistics considerations, but it helps if you know that you are making that trade, rather than assuming that it doesn't matter.

I am a horrible civilian-type, but I work in the industry and hang around here to get some insight.

LE

The way that bar armour works is hardly classified, but often misunderstood. It catches the warhead and prevents it detonating. In this way it is intended to defeat a shaped charge that generates a jet of copper travelling at more or less 4km/s (different velocities down the length of the jet). Water and assorted bric-a-brac or even steel plates up to a foot thick aren't going to realistically stop that. The problem is that they are enough to detonate the warhead before the bars can catch it.

At some point you have to balance tactical effectiveness and logistics considerations, but it helps if you know that you are making that trade, rather than assuming that it doesn't matter.

Bar armour does detonate the incoming RPG; that's the whole point. Read my two links above; one of them explains that although the RPG is detonated by the bar armour and penetrates it easily, it cannot then penetrate the main armour. I can't see how a few jerrycans of water and some boxes of compo are going to compromise the armour.