Always interesting to "stumble" upon threads like this. (so thanks for the "point" out! You know who you are )

Anyhow. To answer the OP's question, in my perspective...it all depends on where you are in life (age/maturity is a factor), who you have met, and the relationship you have cultivated with them.

Plain and simple: It's not because X factor was a whore, Y factor was a womanizer, or because A and B have baby drama....it's truly about where your heart is at that time in your life. Sure, drama makes anyone run for the hills, but if everyone did that, history itself would have been made up of losers.

At some point in our lives, we all want to settle. Be it alone or with someone. And when that day comes, if the candidate in question holds the key requirements and happens to be a parent-then so be it. Don't feel as if you cannot chance it. Take a risk.

It's so easy to think you know what you will do when you've only been on one side of an equation. Because it'll be a rude awakening if ever you find yourself on the other side of it.

A deal breaker should come down to what's at the very core. Only then can you see, be humble about it, and be appreciative that there's such a thing as second chances to those that truly deserve it.

Because the rhetoric I've just read through almost demands "death to those with a kid", and it'll be an interesting and very cold day should any of you with this mentality find yourself on that other side.

This is my nickel and two pence.

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I (still) want my inner circular headlights gleaming a glowing red. That way, scurry when you see my Demon advancing.

OK having mid morning tea so I shall pontificate.
I was married for 7.5 years to who I thought was my soul mate. I met her while I was working in Finland as an engineer. She worked as a manager of a POS burger shop.
Long and short of it we got married and 7.5 years I got a text message saying she wanted to get a divorce.
Turns out she was cheating on me for 6 months.

And here is what I should have known but didn't want to accept.
1) Women are bat shit crazy! A woman can be on fire and if a man tells her that she is on fire the man is wrong....it's has nothing to do with her being on fire it's simply that you are a man and you are WRONG!

2) You can't change people. Some people want to be more than who they are and go to school and get an education and dress well....and others just want to be no greater than managers of POS burger stands!

So let's take into account what the above mean to you as a man dating a woman with kids. Well if the motherfucker monkeys are cutting holes in your leather seats and using a bat to "modify" your car guess what...it's all your fault for having a nice car and not "understanding" them.

And once a single mom with no education and a career...always a single mom with no education and a career...so you better have a good lawyer and spending money.

So to sum it up....why would any man worth his salt date a single mom? I mean really? What is in it for you?

Now this is coming from a guy who's mom married a great guy when she had two bat shit crazy kids...me and my younger brother.

But that man is a facking saint! I on the other hand...I am not! And he got lucky, my facking SOB father left the country so there were no baby daddy issues.

So to sum it up, she cute? She hot? WTF is the matter with you? Don't you know any strippers you can date?

Well said!

There will always be exceptions, but the exceptions prove the rule:

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And once a single mom with no education and a career...always a single mom with no education and a career...so you better have a good lawyer and spending money.

Ok it's a quiet morning so let me tell you a story.
I know this one girl, known her since she was 18 and she is now 25ish. When she was 18 she was a very attractive red head with ice blue eyes and a great ass who time and time again would only date asshole tool and then bitch about it to all of us at work and then well...the next guy was no different. The number of guys she dated who rocked wife beaters / neck tats / pink polo shirts was epic! She went after NJ Shore trash like whale sharks go after plankton!

Sounds just like a friend of mine, and quite amazingly, she hasn't been knocked up yet. She just broke up with her most recent Jersey shore look alike d-bag boyfriend and will most likely end up with another guy just like him. The amusing thing is that she will always complain how these guys don't treat her right, but when she has dated a nice guy type, she gets bored quick. Girls like her always seem to want the excitement of dating a "bad boy" no wonder what kind of drama comes along with it.

Another friend of mine developed an interesting theory on why girls like her always date the same kind of guy even when they know if probably won't work out. His theory states that the first two guys a girl ever dates when they are young basically determines the type of guy that girl will be attracted and drawn to. In the example of my Jersey shore chasing friend, that is exactly the case.

Ah no....it's more like women are bat shit crazy!
The funny part is that I love them! I really do I love the ladies but THEY ARE BAT SHIT CRAZY! The sooner you understand that the better off you are.

And the more you try to understand them the more pissed off and confused you get. Now do you want to get confused and pissed off?

Here are two example how amazingly facking stupid women are and how much their hormones control their thought processes.

1) Woman making well over $150k a year in this economy working for a fortune 500 company as one of its top people in the HR department. She hits 35 and.....HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT MUST HAVE BABY MUST HAVE BABY MUST HAVE BABY!
OK so like a dumb fuck she convinces her husband that she....i mean they should have a baby! I mean after all who needs three vacations a year and two very nice sports cars right? And someone will watch the kid since they both travel 50% of the time! RIGHT?

WRONG!

She had the facking rug rat....she went back to work and in under 5 months guess who was unemployed? Now it's been a year and change their savings is GONE and the best she can land is a $35k a year job. They have a million dollar home that is under water and it's not like he's going to leave his job but she is pissed because he is never there to help. And guess who she is blaming for all of this? I'll give you a hint, he has a dick and kept his well paying job and didn't want kids in the first place!

2) Woman, making a good $100k a year as a chemical engineer for a major company. She is 34 middle management with major talent. Company wanted to pay for her to get her PhD in Chemistry so she could move up the ranks. Girl wants a kid NOW! But well she is a single girl who is dating in NJ....so what does she do? She finds a sperm downer...NO FREAKING JOKE! She doesn't even know what the guys history is and has told him she doesn't want a thing. She also traveled about 50% of the time for her job. Guess what happened to her when the kid entered the world? Out went the BRAND FREAKING NEW M3 and in came the 2004 Mini. She was let go of her job because she could no longer do the work she was hired for.
And guess who's fault it is? In this case it's me. I told her that this was the dumbest things she could do at this moment in her life....and she did it so now it's my fault!

The long and short of it is this, though we love the ladies we have to understand that at best they are in charge of their conscious mind 50% of the time. The other 50% of the time they are under the influence of some fucked up chemicals. Yeah we may chase our dick all over the world but odds are it will get us promoted not fired!

So don't be a dumb fuck, don't date single moms! They are just looking to find a father for their children.

Ah no....it's more like women are bat shit crazy!
The funny part is that I love them! I really do I love the ladies but THEY ARE BAT SHIT CRAZY! The sooner you understand that the better off you are.

And the more you try to understand them the more pissed off and confused you get. Now do you want to get confused and pissed off?

Here are two example how amazingly facking stupid women are and how much their hormones control their thought processes.

1) Woman making well over $150k a year in this economy working for a fortune 500 company as one of its top people in the HR department. She hits 35 and.....HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT MUST HAVE BABY MUST HAVE BABY MUST HAVE BABY!
OK so like a dumb fuck she convinces her husband that she....i mean they should have a baby! I mean after all who needs three vacations a year and two very nice sports cars right? And someone will watch the kid since they both travel 50% of the time! RIGHT?

WRONG!

She had the facking rug rat....she went back to work and in under 5 months guess who was unemployed? Now it's been a year and change their savings is GONE and the best she can land is a $35k a year job. They have a million dollar home that is under water and it's not like he's going to leave his job but she is pissed because he is never there to help. And guess who she is blaming for all of this? I'll give you a hint, he has a dick and kept his well paying job and didn't want kids in the first place!

2) Woman, making a good $100k a year as a chemical engineer for a major company. She is 34 middle management with major talent. Company wanted to pay for her to get her PhD in Chemistry so she could move up the ranks. Girl wants a kid NOW! But well she is a single girl who is dating in NJ....so what does she do? She finds a sperm downer...NO FREAKING JOKE! She doesn't even know what the guys history is and has told him she doesn't want a thing. She also traveled about 50% of the time for her job. Guess what happened to her when the kid entered the world? Out went the BRAND FREAKING NEW M3 and in came the 2004 Mini. She was let go of her job because she could no longer do the work she was hired for.
And guess who's fault it is? In this case it's me. I told her that this was the dumbest things she could do at this moment in her life....and she did it so now it's my fault!

The long and short of it is this, though we love the ladies we have to understand that at best they are in charge of their conscious mind 50% of the time. The other 50% of the time they are under the influence of some fucked up chemicals. Yeah we may chase our dick all over the world but odds are it will get us promoted not fired!

So don't be a dumb fuck, don't date single moms! They are just looking to find a father for their children.