Hi, well maybe you don't have to do that. Are you the Administrator and using that account? If you read that thread that you referred to, you know I ask a lot of questions. But I have a reason for everyone of them.

Unless you know that is your problem, I would try to find out what is wrong. That link is a "maybe" in my opinion, and contains a lot of "IFS", no guarantees.

Thanks for the info that you provided. Thank goodness no DLM/getplus, etc.:-)

Before you installed MSE, what Anti-Virus did you have and did it contain a Firewall? Was it McAfee or Norton?

Do you use any other browser(s)?

Have you installed any prerelease or beta or any version of Flash Player older than the one you were using when it"disappeared?"

Using adblock or have any pop up blocker software installed?

Was anything going on when this FP disappeared, any error messages, etc?

I only had Norton trial version, I uninstalled when trial was over as I didn't want to pay for antivirus protection etc.. I then later installed MSE. As far as beta version I dont believe I ever installed one. Not sure about pop-up blocker software, I know I can turn off the blocker in internet tools, only Windows Firewall. Never used another browser. All I know is that all of a sudden flsh player stopped working. The following link explains my problems exactly

Ok, thanks. Because Norton is so invasive that even with a trial version, just removing it from Add/Remove would not remove it from the many files it installed itself in. Following is the Norton Removal Tool, which you can download and SAVE to your Desktop.

OK, I ran the removal tool and restarted PC. When you asked about cure this is what I was talking about: everytime I restart windows the following pops up in a dialogue box "There appears to be an error with your installation., Please reinstall the applicatioin." Its says in the top left corner FileCure. Not sure when or why it started doing this or if it is at all related. As to when flash player stopped working im not sure. From what I can gather it may have been the result of something downloaded or an update on the PC, just from what Ive read here. Not sure if it was from MSE or an update could be either.

If I try to install Flash player it states this is not the most current version and wont let me install. In one of my previous posts it states exactly what happens with my PC. Before, I would install, it would install fine and the download would complete. But, then if I went to a site that uses flash, such as you tube, it would state I need to update to the ost current version.

I would like to try to use the SubInACL to carrect this flash problem, however I dont have the file folder C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kits\Tools, Windows Resource Kits doesnt exist.

As far as the other problem ʇɐb ɹəuəllıʍ . I downloaded the startup inspector. File Cure is nowhere listed, and I dont quite know how to use that prgram

Hi mcadan, I know you want to try the SubInACL that was suggested on another thread. If you knew that was your problem and it was a sure thing, then that would be a cure all for everyone that is having a Flash Player issue. I don't know how one determines that they have "A damaged Windows system registry or incorrect registry permissions settings may prevent you from installing Flash Player" The symptoms listed are given for many other reasons as well.

My suggestion would be to Uninstall/Install Flash Player correctly first and if that is not successful, then try the SubInACL.

You should be able to Delete the ParetoLogic File Cure from your Program files, empty your recycle bin and Reboot.

Thanks for the response. Got rid of FileCUre 100%, found a removal tool online that let me remove 3 programs 100% for free. Not getrting that problem anymore. As far as downloading the Flash version, cant get it to work still. Ive checked other treads and tried a few things. I may have installed beta version previously when trying to correct this problem, not sure. Dont know how to use force option to remove, tried but it always cant find files.

When I used the removal tool I also selected the Flash Program to completley remove Flash from my system. That way I can hopefully start from a clean slate. Now, when I tried to istall flash, offline installation, it goes back to an old problem, failed to register.

Hi mcadan, glad you got rid of the file cure. Funny how things get installed and you don't know from where:-) On the beta, had you installed it, the file would be in the Flash folder. Or would have been. Since you removed Flash Player et al,

there isn't anything in the Flash folder now, right?

Since you removed Flash Player with that Removal Tool, you tried to Install again with the offline Installer. Please check your Flash folder to see if any files were installed.

You are using the Administrator account, right?

You may want to also check in Add/Remove or Programs & Features and post back what Java versions are installed.

On that SubInACL, I'll need to check. I did read some on MS about it. They also have info on a Vista System File Checker Tool.

When you try to Install, there may be something that is overlooked and the ActiveX Control is more difficult since you need Administrator permission to write to the Windows Registry and Install an ActiveX Control. So there are certain actions that the user must take to work around those. Perhaps you weren't aware of them or just overlooked them.

I can post the procedure and you can follow them whenever it is convenient for you.

Disconnect from the Internet, Disable the Real-Time Protection in MSE. Make sure any applications that use Flash are disabled such as messenger, etc. Check the system tray carefully for any.

Close all browsers as you only want to be looking at your Desktop. RUN the Uninstaller and when finished, Restart your computer. When it is fully restarted, then Restart again. Stay disconnected from the Internet, now check your Flash folder to make sure that NO files are there. If any files are there, RUN the Uninstaller again and Reboot.

Now RUN the Installer from your Desktop. When finished, Restart Once.

Enable your Real-Time Protection in MSE, and connect back to the Internet.

After that, check your Flash folder for the IE Flash files. Then check the manage add ons (ALL add ons) for the Shockwave Flash Object...ActiveX Control...Flash10e.ocx (which is version 10.0.45.2) and make sure it is Enabled.

Hi mcadan, Well I am sorry about that. What a puzzle. Was that 19611 the troubleshooting guide? Perhaps a Registry Cleaner etc has caused a problem previously. I know a lot of people use them and there are pros and cons on that.

Could you tell when the error occurred? I usually watch my install window.

Since you are using IE8, Microsoft had a toll free support number for problems. If you would like that number, I can post it for you.

Thank you for trying. I came across some info on that SubInACL & will post it. It may be helpful to just read what others did.

I was trying another fix that was in a different thread. When using the CMD function it stated I dont have admintrator priveleges. How can this be if this is the Administrator user account for the PC?????????????

Hi, Ok, put your thinking cap on. I keep remembering you said FP "suddenly disappeared" Can you try to pinpoint an approximate date when you installed MSE? An IE security update from Windows? Did you add a Vista Service Pack, perhaps SP2? Any of those could have upset the apple cart. But something is preventing the Install. You installed FP before, so what has changed? Did you upgrade to IE8 near this time?

Had you ever used the DLM before? I know you said you don't have it now, but have you ever used it? Go to Tools>Internet Options, click on Settings, then click on View Objects. Any mention of a gp.ocx or a gp.inf?

When you installed MSE, did you have Windows Defender and if so did you Uninstall that? Did you at one time have the Windows Live One Care?

I think if we can't find this cause, I would call MS. Let me check and see what their email support is about. I know on Security Issues there is no charge or upgrades or IE8.

not sure exactly when it stopped working. I think it may have happened when doing a system update, possibly SP3. Also, Ive only had PC for about 5 months. Im not sure if I installed or PC had preinstalled Flash. Just notice Flash didnt work within last month. no gp.ocx or a gp.inf in view objects. I searched for Window DEfender and it says that it is turned off, so I guess I have and its not uninstalled???

Hi, well that info helps. MSE would have turned off Windows Defender if it was there. I read about all of what to do, since I installed MSE also. I had about 3 years ago the Windows Live One Care. Well about 2 months ago I read that when you Uninstall it you must run the clean up utility. So I took a look at my files and sure enough many Live One Care files were there. So I ran the utility and it knocked out my MSE and took something out of my Flash Player!! So I had to Uninstall both and Re-Install both MSE & Flash Player. So yes I know things can go beserk:-)

Some new PC's do have FP installed, and I think that is a plus. I think the Service Pack would have been the culprit. I run XP and updated to SP3. It didn't cause a problem like that utility did though. I think you meant SP2 for Vista, SP3 is for XP.

Thanks for checking in View Objects, one less thing that it could be.

I would call MS tomorrow after you take a break. They will be able to find out what the problem is and what caused it.

Hey, you are bound and determined to get some version working LOL Well without checking that version RC5?, I would say there may be an ActiveX Control for your IE add ons. I know the other RC's did. Go back to the site where you installed it and see if there is an additional plug-in or add on. I'll check too.

the active x control is there. i went to manage add-ons and that is how i noticed flash did install, and it is enabled. however flash content doesnt work, it says i need to install a newer version of flash. now i finally got a version to download and its useless????

Hi, My ISP is acting up, having a hit & miss connection for about the last hour or so.

Well, so now it's installed with the add on and what? What site are you getting the message from? I was reading some of the RC5 info, but didn't get to finish due to my connection. I'm going to power cycle and see if that helps.

I think most of the sites are looking for the 10.0.45.2, however some users are swearing by the beta version and it appears to be working. Will be back in a few minutes.

i didn t notice that when i installed the rc5 version it had failed to register.

finally got the SubInACL to finally work, but flash still doesnt work. It did say it repaired flash registires or sumthin

oh well, not sure what to do now.

i already tried to uninstall/reinstall again.

How can I find out if this system came with flash preinstalled. Someone once posted that a system reostore fixed the problem. Not sure if I should try this yet. How do I save/back-up all programs, files, games, downloads I want to keep if I decide to do this.