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Well, Melbourne is a major city in Australia and i have an interest in it.

WTF does that have to do with this topic?

Originally Posted by Jack Springer

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Why is the liberal answer to opposition always division? Frankly I am tired of liberals not being able to accept a black man as President of the United States.

Don't look at the color of his skin. Obama is a man ....please don't continue to use the color of his skin to block objections to anything he says or his positions.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

Yes, the US used to be a melting pot -- now is more like a stew -- some melting but large chunks visible.

This is an utter pile of crap.

Since the beginning there have been immigrant communities or religious communities that hardly melted in for the first generation or two.

In the 1700's it was the Germans who were treated like pariahs, There have also been the Jews, the Italians, the Hutterites, the Mennonites, Blacks, Natives, the Amish, Catholics, Mormons, Mexicans, Chinese, Vietnamese, East Indians....do I really need to go on? Every one of these populations has been held up as a group who just didn't 'fit in' at some point in US history.

This melting pot is just a romantic notion used as a truncheon by the white anglo saxons and then every one thereafter to press for conformity. Because as long as you could somehow get 'white' enough in your religion, food and language....then everything was OK.

Which used to work when a person's sphere of world knowledge was limited. When the world around you was a 60 minute drive in a pick-up truck on a dirt road to the big town...but the whole world is much smaller now.

So enjoy the stew. It is much more interesting and flavourful than the thin gruel you've been dining on.

Yes, the US used to be a melting pot -- now is more like a stew -- some melting but large chunks visible.

The US hasn't been a melting pot since the majority of immigrants stopped coming from England and Scotland. Every new immigrant group has met with despite and ridicule, and has in the end kept parts of their own culture while sharing other parts with everyone else. We've always been a stew pot, and the bigots have always pretended it was "us" v "those newcomers".

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

In this case you may have it backwards. Melbourne Australia est 1835, and Melbourne Florida dates earlier. However was officially tagged by freed slaves in 1867.

<sigh>

Let's put this to rest.

The name "Melbourne" comes from Melbourne, in Derbyshire, back in merry olde England. So, Telstra...

what business does Australia have stealing other people's names?

BTW, this also applies to every major population center on that continent, coming from either British place names or British nobles or British explorers, except Wollongong, Geelong, and a bare handful of others.

Now, stop derailing, and go back to Hot Topics where you're qualified to jump in.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

The name "Melbourne" comes from Melbourne, in Derbyshire, back in merry olde England. So, Telstra...

what business does Australia have stealing other people's names?

BTW, this also applies to every major population center on that continent, coming from either British place names or British nobles or British explorers, except Wollongong, Geelong, and a bare handful of others.

Now, stop derailing, and go back to Hot Topics where you're qualified to jump in.

I wanted to reply to Vulgar_Newcomer but i didn't.
Anyway, here is a secret source from a JUB member LOL

Seriously, you should stop twisting grammar and punctuation to serve your agenda. Try being objective.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

Oh -- and get with the program here and provide sources... especially since many of the positions you espouse have been totally debunked.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

I wanted to reply to Vulgar_Newcomer but i didn't.Anyway, here is a secret source from a JUB memberLOL

DEAR GAWD!

Here's something that might blow your fucking mind!

I was born in Dallas, Texas.

The City of Dallas, is the "County seat of Government" for Dallas County, Texas.

So to keep things interesting for you, the "Founder" of what is now the City of Dallas, named what is NOW the geographical city of Dallas, Texas after his gay lover back in Ft. Smith, Arkansas circa 1838.

Now let's jump ahead to 1846.

James K. Polk was now the President of the United States, Texas if no longer a REPUBLIC.

His Vice President was named George Mifflin Dallas.

Most historians agree that most Americans living here in Texas at the time didn't know that.

And here's the kicker! The City of Dallas didn't become the "County Seat of Dallas County" until two years AFTER the California Gold Rush of 1849, and nearly a full four years after Texas had become a State within the United States.

And your point would be......?

Last edited by Centexfarmer; November 17th, 2012 at 08:20 PM.

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See thats what i mean.
The reasons for America to use other countries names are ?

It's not called a natiom of immigrants for nothing. So too is Australia. There'a a Melbourne Eng, a Perth, Scotland, a New South Wales. get it yet? Canada is the same. The original name for Toronto? YORK

Boston Ma is named for Boston in Yorkshire. Dover, NJ, Dover, DE, White Cliffs of Dover.

Berlin NH, Berlin MA Berlin GER

People who traveled across an ocean or 2 were @ times homesick for the "old country", "fatherland" or "mother country", hence the names.

It's not called a natiom of immigrants for nothing. So too is Australia. There'a a Melbourne Eng, a Perth, Scotland, a New South Wales. get it yet? Canada is the same. The original name for Toronto? YORK

Boston Ma is named for Boston in Yorkshire. Dover, NJ, Dover, DE, White Cliffs of Dover.

Berlin NH, Berlin MA Berlin GER

People who traveled across an ocean or 2 were @ times homesick for the "old country", "fatherland" or "mother country", hence the names.

As I pointed out elsewhere, out of the top fifty population centers in Australia, every last one but a bare handful of native names is imported from Britain. Melbourne, in Derbyshire, for example, was there about seven and a half centuries before the one in Australia.

So the real question is "Why do the US Australia use names from all around the world ???"

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

As I pointed out elsewhere, out of the top fifty population centers in Australia, every last one but a bare handful of native names is imported from Britain. Melbourne, in Derbyshire, for example, was there about seven and a half centuries before the one in Australia.

So the real question is "Why do the USAustralia use names from all around the world ???"

Do you not accept the fact that Britian was once GREAT because the Empire once controlled more than 3/4 of the GLOBE???

Look at the ass on your avatar for CHRIST'S sake.

I'm beginning to think that the whole world, the apocalypse, and armageddon, is actually going to happen because half of the 7 billion people living on this planet think that the other half are idiots, and that other half must be destroyed.

The problem is, both sides think that it's the other.

Are you not familiar with the phrase, "All things old are new again?"

Jeezus on a fence post!

Last edited by Centexfarmer; November 18th, 2012 at 11:21 AM.

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Seriously though. Do people who post in this forum actually read what's posted??

So people who ask such questions as this thread poses actually live in the real world?

Originally Posted by Telstra

Not all around the world.
Only from Britain mainly.

Aha!

You just answered your own question.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

Re: Why do the US use names from all around the world ??? [SPLIT]

Jeezus on a fence post!!!!! You owe me a screen cleaner, mine is now splashed with tea.....English Breakfast of course!!

I actually think "they" stopped teaching history in school, or dumbed it down/cherry picked what they teach. You know, no Jefferson, no separation of church & state, no Manifest Destiny used to commit genocide.

When I went to school in the 50s, when Rea, er Ike was president, I remember they showed us a world map. where every country of the Briish Commonwealth/Empire (it still existed, in Africa) were pink. And how fascinating it was to learn that we in the US were the only country to win a war against them. Oh, make that 2 wars, though The War of 1812 was over & then Jackson won the Battle of NO.

The City of Dallas, is the "County seat of Government" for Dallas County, Texas.

So to keep things interesting for you, the "Founder" of what is now the City of Dallas, named what is NOW the geographical city of Dallas, Texas after his gay lover back in Ft. Smith, Arkansas circa 1838.

Now let's jump ahead to 1846.

James K. Polk was now the President of the United States, Texas if no longer a REPUBLIC.

His Vice President was named George Mifflin Dallas.

Most historians agree that most Americans living here in Texas at the time didn't know that.

And here's the kicker! The City of Dallas didn't become the "County Seat of Dallas County" until two years AFTER the California Gold Rush of 1849, and nearly a full four years after Texas had become a State within the United States.

Re: Why do the US use names from all around the world ??? [SPLIT]

At the time of the founding of this country in the late 18th Century, and into the 19th Century, Northern Europe and North America saw a rediscovery of and intense interest in all things Greek and ancient. This was mostly manifested in the architectural movement known as Greek Revival. The classical building styles in this country, and much of Northern Europe, most noticeably the use of columns and other attributes of Greek temples and public buildings, are examples of Greek Revival architecture.

Another manifestation of the interest in Greece and the ancient world in this country can be found in the use of Greek and Roman place names for newly established towns and cities in our new Republic. Many towns and cities in New York State that were established at this time had Greek and Roman names, such as Syracuse, Ithaca, Troy, Rome, Attica, Utica. The same is true for many other states on the East Coast, i.e. Athens, Georgia, Sparta, NJ, etc.

New York City, the Hudson Valley, and Northeastern New Jersey was originally a Dutch colony. Hence, this area has many Dutch place names New Orleans and a huge track of land stretching north from there in a V shape to the Canadian border was a French colony. Thus, there are many places with French names, i.e. St. Louis, MO.

Florida and the American Southwest was Spanish, and the Southwest later was Mexican. Hence, there are many Spanish place names.

Alaska was Russian territory until Lincoln became president.

We have had immigrants from all over the world. As population spread across the continent, towns established by immigrants from non-English countries took place names from their home countries.

Re: Why do the US use names from all around the world ??? [SPLIT]

It is also interesting to note that Texas names its largest city after the street in Manhattan that forms the boundary between Greenwich Village and Soho on the west side of the island, and the East Village and Lower East Side on the east side of the island. I am talking about Houston Street, of course. Texans don't pronounce it correctly, though. We call it How-ston Street, with the accent on the first syllable, not You-ston, with no accent on either syllable. When are y'all in Texas going to learn how to speak English properly?

Re: Why do the US use names from all around the world ??? [SPLIT]

Originally Posted by palemale

It is also interesting to note that Texas names its largest city after the street in Manhattan that forms the boundary between Greenwich Village and Soho on the west side of the island, and the East Village and Lower East Side on the east side of the island. I am talking about Houston Street, of course. Texans don't pronounce it correctly, though. We call it How-ston Street, with the accent on the first syllable, not You-ston, with no accent on either syllable. When are y'all in Texas going to learn how to speak English properly?

When y'all stop saying Lon Gisland.

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Re: Why do the US use names from all around the world ??? [SPLIT]

Originally Posted by Lestatnj

Jeezus on a fence post!!!!! You owe me a screen cleaner, mine is now splashed with tea.....English Breakfast of course!!

I actually think "they" stopped teaching history in school, or dumbed it down/cherry picked what they teach. You know, no Jefferson, no separation of church & state, no Manifest Destiny used to commit genocide.

When I went to school in the 50s, when Rea, er Ike was president, I remember they showed us a world map. where every country of the Briish Commonwealth/Empire (it still existed, in Africa) were pink. And how fascinating it was to learn that we in the US were the only country to win a war against them. Oh, make that 2 wars, though The War of 1812 was over & then Jackson won the Battle of NO.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

I believe that the US did not actually 'win' the War of 1812. Just sayin'.

Re: Why do the US use names from all around the world ??? [SPLIT]

Originally Posted by Lestatnj

Jeezus on a fence post!!!!! You owe me a screen cleaner, mine is now splashed with tea.....English Breakfast of course!!

I actually think "they" stopped teaching history in school, or dumbed it down/cherry picked what they teach. You know, no Jefferson, no separation of church & state, no Manifest Destiny used to commit genocide.

When I went to school in the 50s, when Rea, er Ike was president, I remember they showed us a world map. where every country of the Briish Commonwealth/Empire (it still existed, in Africa) were pink. And how fascinating it was to learn that we in the US were the only country to win a war against them. Oh, make that 2 wars, though The War of 1812 was over & then Jackson won the Battle of NO.

Actually, I believe the part in red is because of the Texas School Board. They go through books taking out progressive info.

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