I'm not so sure we do, or if we just all bought into the hype. 2 2nd rounders and a 4th rounder. Brown has had an up and down year, and has missed many tackles. Ayers has missed many tackle, and now is being used as a DE. McCarthy has missed many tackles, but that's likely due to a bum ankle. Colin is always hurt also.

I think they all have POTENTIAL, the word we always use. Will any of them actually turn into anything, or are we looking at some more Rennie Curran/Gerald McRaths?

I'm not so sure we do, or if we just all bought into the hype. 2 2nd rounders and a 4th rounder. Brown has had an up and down year, and has missed many tackles. Ayers has missed many tackle, and now is being used as a DE. McCarthy has missed many tackles, but that's likely due to a bum ankle. Colin is always hurt also.

I think they all have POTENTIAL, the word we always use. Will any of them actually turn into anything, or are we looking at some more Rennie Curran/Gerald McRaths?

False. Brown has been flying all over the place and so has ayers. I actually enjoy those two. McCarthy is glass tho. Givin the right coaches they could excel. I don't see mcraths at all. And curran? Did he even see the field? Really now.

Nothing is wrong with Brown/Ayers/McCarthy, LB is the LEAST of our concerns. I think there's a lot of talent on this roster, we need a new coaching staff. Ayers has impressed me the most, and Brown will prove to be a nice 2nd round pick.

Palmer is especially has to go, and Gray to follow. I don't mind giving Munchak ONE more year if he agrees to hire new coordinators.

Nothing is wrong with Brown/Ayers/McCarthy, LB is the LEAST of our concerns. I think there's a lot of talent on this roster, we need a new coaching staff. Ayers has impressed me the most, and Brown will prove to be a nice 2nd round pick.

Palmer is especially has to go, and Gray to follow. I don't mind giving Munchak ONE more year if he agrees to hire new coordinators.

This franchise is becoming the joke of the NFL. Just an average team, year after year. Afraid to take risks. Unwilling to pay its players (besides CJ, who had to hold out). Average drafting. Senile owner. We've taken one risk the last few years: Peyton Manning, and we struck out. I miss the days of McNair, Eddie, D-Mase, Wycheck, Thigpen, KVB, Bishop, Rolle, KEARSE, BULLUCK.. and so on and so on. Ever since Bud got cheap and didn't pay those guys, look at the stars we've had: Chris Johnson & Albert Haynesworth (potentially Finnegan & Bironas, but he's a kicker). VY had one good year, then he sucked.

We get these draftees, and we talk about there potential.. but then they NEVER develop. Like:

......

and the list goes on and on. Look at all the wasted money, time, and draft picks out of those players. It's insane. Yes, you can say this about all-teams, but look at the high draft picks... most teams actually produce talent with their picks, not us. All these players at one point in time had "potential" and we thought we had a star, NOPE. These players are likely out of the league, still sucking on our roster, or we didn't pay them and they left.

He's also done nothing to correct the problem that has been obvious since day one.. and that is, that they suck and are not deserving of coaching arena football. Zero leadership, zero accountability, zero everything. Except losses.

what do you expect him to do? Fire his coordinators after going 9-7 in their opening season together?

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