Pretty **** sure they gave you guys a chance to come clean before the banhammer started to swing. Your the ones thinking they'll never catch you, same kind of logical thieves in society and thus treated as one.

I'm pretty sure there are laws that state not to steal. Where does it state in the game manuel not to gain copious amounts of exp or sp?

And just a lil fyi, none of the bans/nerfs have affected me; however, an indiscretion is still an indiscretion.

And come on, we are going to compare RL stealing to a game?

I'm pretty sure that analogy was to compare using logic in RL, to using logic in game. The instructions in the leve tell you to kill mobs, not to let them beat on you while 30 mages self buffs for 30 minutes. Does this really need to be explained to you?

Pretty **** sure they gave you guys a chance to come clean before the banhammer started to swing. Your the ones thinking they'll never catch you

Catch you FOR WHAT??? How was anyone to know that a group of 4th graders can program better than SE's development team? Why are the PLAYERS being punished for doing what any self respecting player innately tries to do: find the most efficient way to level in the shortest amount of time?

It's not "stealing". Nobody "hacked" any code here. By all means, fix the exploit. No need to mention it beforehand, just implement it in the next patch.

Someone needs to tell SE, however:

YOU DO NOT PUNISH YOUR PLAYERS FOR YOUR OWN F*** UPS!

That's important, so I'll copy/paste it ;)

YOU DO NOT PUNISH YOUR PLAYERS FOR YOUR OWN F*** UPS!

Which is kind of ironic, since FFXIV as a whole could easily be considered a F*** up, and the player punishment is actually attempting to play it [I challenge you to find me one good, non-paid for, review of FFXIV by a well established review publication/site.]

I'm sure I'll get rated down by the fanboys for that, but at this point I just don't care. It's like SE is intentionally trying to put themselves out of business. And for those that ask "why am I bother posting this", perhaps it's specifically because I *DO* Care that SE's continued failures drive me to express my disgust for what could have easily been the best game of all time.

The instructions in the leve tell you to kill mobs, not to let them beat on you while 30 mages self buffs for 30 minutes. Does this really need to be explained to you?

NO that does not. What does need to be explained is why the programmers left FATIGUE off for/during those quest. Wasn't fatigue added to PREVENT this from happening? I knew people who knew about it in OB. they left it there. more people found out. And now the mess insued.

SE gave people a chance to turn themselves in and get rolled back for exploiting. I don't have any sympathy. Don't cheat.

____________________________

lolgaxe wrote:

When it comes to sitting around not doing anything for long periods of time, only being active for short windows, and marginal changes and sidegrades I'd say FFXI players were the perfect choice for politicians.

Catch you FOR WHAT??? How was anyone to know that a group of 4th graders can program better than SE's development team? Why are the PLAYERS being punished for doing what any self respecting player innately tries to do: find the most efficient way to level in the shortest amount of time?

Any 4th graders know if there is something wrong, report it instead of abusing it and making benefits.

People who get banned for stumbling across an exploit on accident I have sympathy for. People who get caught in the auto-ban I have sympathy for. People who get banned after they knowingly exploited a game mechanic to achieve an end in a manner clearly not in the spirit of the game I have zero sympathy for.

You don't need a manual to tell you SE didn't want us to rank up by spamming cure while letting a low level mob hit us.

If there was an exploitfeature where you could drop one Marmot Meat, and suddenly get 5,000 SP, would you exploit it?

Would you say, "ITS IN THE GAME SO ITS INTENDED"?

Then, would you be surprised if they banned you for it? Similar concept.

What if there was a ring you could use then every mob you kill gives more xp than the designers originally intended? Would you exploit it? Similar concept. SE has a history of making bonus xp/sp available in various ways.

In a new game where everyone is still trying to figure out how it works how are we supposed to know they didn't intend us to get sp in certain ways? How broken is it that I get 1000 xp every time I make a piece of cloth? Should I call a GM?

How broken is it that I get 1000 xp every time I make a piece of cloth? Should I call a GM?

Yes, you should get banned. I never got exp for crafting in FFXI so this must be a cheat. No game manuel told me I get exp for crafting. And clearly getting nearly 2K exp a synth must be an exploit. I only get 100 when I kill a mob.

/nerfbat exp for crafting roll back everyones Physical Level to 10 see me once it done

I dunno if the person asking me if I got banned was answered, but NO, im logged in right now lol, while im at working, making gil. EXPLOIT! I'm not using the ward to sale my stuff! /nerfbat