I have been defending trump about this, in an ironic way, ever since it occurred to me he might not have known he was accusing obama of a crime. it would not surprise me if he thought this was how wiretapping ordinarily happens: the president says "wiretap that guy" and they go wiretap him.

as always, the most underappreciated thing about trump is that he doesn't know anything about the presidency.

It has astonished me for years how many Republican politicians know very little about most subjects outside of politics and sometimes business. Trump's only unusual in that he's uninformed about how government is run as well.

On the topic of women, women's anatomy, rape, pregnancy, alone, Republican politicians seem outlandishly and even naively uninformed and misinformed, so that you get repeated public pronouncements that make them look like flaming idiots. All I can figure is that they've been so focussed on the machinations of government that they've never had time nor interest for learning anything else.

I have been defending trump about this, in an ironic way, ever since it occurred to me he might not have known he was accusing obama of a crime. it would not surprise me if he thought this was how wiretapping ordinarily happens: the president says "wiretap that guy" and they go wiretap him.

as always, the most underappreciated thing about trump is that he doesn't know anything about the presidency.

I think you may be right. And the more he finds out the more he is shocked and outraged by how things actually work.

He's shocked and outraged that it requires work and dedication when he thought it would be glamourous and easy.

Can you present the argument you are trying to make in your own words, Dave? Because I really don't get your point.

What do you think the message is here?

What I gleaned is the following ...

The fact that the Flinn transcript exists and was leaked to the press means that it is very likely that Obama's CIA Director, John Brennan, obtained the transcript via back channels from British intelligence and leaked it for the purpose of trying to undermine Trump's new presidency.

That's my summary in my own words from what I gleaned from this article.

For which there is no evidence whatsoever. Your own reference mentions it as only one of several possibilities, and does not assign any likelihood to it.

From the link I posted, it is clear that your source is not only not a lawyer, he is clueless about applicable law. He's flat-out wrong about almost everything.

Flynn's call to the Russian ambassador was bugged because the Russian ambassador is being bugged. Flynn's name was released because "... an exception to that rule is if the U.S. person's name is necessary to understand the foreign intelligence information or assess its importance. Flynn's identity was essential to understanding why his conversation with Kislyak was important."

"I would never consider my evaluation of his work to be fair minded unless I had actually read his own words." - Dave Hawkins

Two weeks before the inauguration, the Lord showed me the vision three times of bugging. I saw the vision of a ghost-like figure running around the White House and putting pins in things. It came three nights in a row at three o'clock in the morning. I said, 'What is it?' He said, 'They're bugs.' I said, 'Bugs?' 'Yes.'

The second night, I looked into the face of the person that was putting them, and they were faceless. He said, 'It's a ghost'--which is an acronym, as you well know, for a certain intelligence agency. And the third night when I saw it he then showed me the sweeping of three times. And he said, 'Tell them to sweep it three times. The first time won't do it. The second time won't do it. The third time, what's in the darkness will come to light.'

We were able to speak it into one of the highest authorities in the land. And then the truth began to come out, didn't it? It's not all out yet; there's still more coming.

"I would never consider my evaluation of his work to be fair minded unless I had actually read his own words." - Dave Hawkins

I have been defending trump about this, in an ironic way, ever since it occurred to me he might not have known he was accusing obama of a crime. it would not surprise me if he thought this was how wiretapping ordinarily happens: the president says "wiretap that guy" and they go wiretap him.

as always, the most underappreciated thing about trump is that he doesn't know anything about the presidency.

I think you may be right. And the more he finds out the more he is shocked and outraged by how things actually work.

He's shocked and outraged that it requires work and dedication when he thought it would be glamourous and easy.

The most jaw-dropping thing was how after ALL of that "we're going to repeal Obamacare day 1. Believe me! We're going to replace it with something terrific, where every American will be covered! etc etc etc..."

Then "Nobody knew that healthcare could be so complicated!" not enough s

"I understand Donald Trump better than many people because I really am a lot like him." - Dave Hawkins

I have been defending trump about this, in an ironic way, ever since it occurred to me he might not have known he was accusing obama of a crime. it would not surprise me if he thought this was how wiretapping ordinarily happens: the president says "wiretap that guy" and they go wiretap him.

as always, the most underappreciated thing about trump is that he doesn't know anything about the presidency.

I think you may be right. And the more he finds out the more he is shocked and outraged by how things actually work.

nah. what he's discovering is that policy and government are complicated, that the president has less power than he had thought, and that the president's ability to exercise what power he does have is limited by how much he knows about the job.

he is at the controls of a big, complicated machine, which you have to know how to pilot to get the results you want. he has no idea what any of the buttons or levers do. and he is too lazy to learn, and he doesn't trust the advice of anyone who does know anything about it. and his attitude is "how hard can it be? *starts mashing random buttons*"

I have been defending trump about this, in an ironic way, ever since it occurred to me he might not have known he was accusing obama of a crime. it would not surprise me if he thought this was how wiretapping ordinarily happens: the president says "wiretap that guy" and they go wiretap him.

as always, the most underappreciated thing about trump is that he doesn't know anything about the presidency.

It has astonished me for years how many Republican politicians know very little about most subjects outside of politics and sometimes business. Trump's only unusual in that he's uninformed about how government is run as well.

On the topic of women, women's anatomy, rape, pregnancy, alone, Republican politicians seem outlandishly and even naively uninformed and misinformed, so that you get repeated public pronouncements that make them look like flaming idiots. All I can figure is that they've been so focussed on the machinations of government that they've never had time nor interest for learning anything else.

Nah. They're just ignorant.

Love is like a magic penny if you hold it tight you won't have any if you give it away you'll have so many they'll be rolling all over the floor

Can you present the argument you are trying to make in your own words, Dave? Because I really don't get your point.

What do you think the message is here?

What I gleaned is the following ...

The fact that the Flinn transcript exists and was leaked to the press means that it is very likely that Obama's CIA Director, John Brennan, obtained the transcript via back channels from British intelligence and leaked it for the purpose of trying to undermine Trump's new presidency.

That's my summary in my own words from what I gleaned from this article.

Lol.

As if the article wasn't a mess already, you went and Hawkinsed it.

Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

I have been defending trump about this, in an ironic way, ever since it occurred to me he might not have known he was accusing obama of a crime. it would not surprise me if he thought this was how wiretapping ordinarily happens: the president says "wiretap that guy" and they go wiretap him.

as always, the most underappreciated thing about trump is that he doesn't know anything about the presidency.

I think you may be right. And the more he finds out the more he is shocked and outraged by how things actually work.

"...What do you MEAN I can't just deport them for being Muslim? I'm THE PRESIDENT!!!"

Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

Non-response. Dave, you're just a worthless pawn to the wealthy ignorant corporate-ass-licking ruling class. Donald Trump is disgusted by people like you. He built a damn earth wall by his golf course in Scotland, cutting off the view for the local people, because he didn't want to look at their less-than-mansionish homes. He treats women like dirt. He knows nothing about the poor, or about healthcare, or much of anything besides screwing contractors and hiring 'the best people' to do his taxes.

Can you present the argument you are trying to make in your own words, Dave? Because I really don't get your point.

What do you think the message is here?

What I gleaned is the following ...

The fact that the Flinn transcript exists and was leaked to the press means that it is very likely that Obama's CIA Director, John Brennan, obtained the transcript via back channels from British intelligence and leaked it for the purpose of trying to undermine Trump's new presidency.

That's my summary in my own words from what I gleaned from this article.

So... You agree it has nothing to do with Trump's batshit insane accusations of Obama bugging him or Trump Tower. Then why the