ZapRowsdower wrote:Since we pretty much know E&J read here, I thought we might come up with some good, clickbait titles for them to help boost their views in the wake of their new upload schedule. XD lol

I'll go first:

Title: "Never Expected This to Happen"Thumbnail: E&J sitting on foot of bed; E looking forlorn, handing J her wedding and engagement rings; J looking down at ring, "tears" in eyes.The Clickbait: Divorce!The Reality: E's ring gets "stained" from a Lush bath.######Title: "CAUGHT YOU DOING WHAT?!"Thumbnail: E Photoshopped into foreground reaming someone out (bc we need to see her face you know); E&J "arguing" with J in E's bathrobe The Clickbait: Crossdressing?The Reality: J puts on E's robe to "see why you wear it all the time! Omg it's so soft, which is good because you're PREGNANT and need nothing but softness on that STRETCHED belly of yours!"######Title: "This Day Came Too Soon."Thumbnail: J in the rock quarry - sorry - backyard - snuggling Penny, looking sad/serious; Ellie and boys Photoshopped into foreground; E looks like she's explaining something to the boys.The Clickbait: Something has happened to Penny!The Reality: They ran out of Penny's dog treats and need to go to PetSmart to get some more.######

cleo2016 wrote:This is a horrible thing to say. But their lives were so much better off without Calvin. I'm watching pre Calvin vlogs & E&J are so different now. It's sad.

It's the YouTube money that changed the vlogs.

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I don’t think it’s Calvin or the YouTube money that’s changed. I don’t think they’ve really changed, I think we are just getting to see the true Ellie. When they started filming everything was exciting because they were finally getting somewhere with ttc (even though I fully believe it was just lack of timing knowledge) and then Ellie was on the new/first baby high. Then she got pregnant and that was exciting, then they built their house and that was exciting but now she has nothing to look forward to and hasn’t for a year or so. When they started ttc she was happier, we all commented on it and knew when she got pregnant because of her attitude change, but now she knows it’s another boy and she isn’t as thrilled. I think Ellie is a mean, negative person. She’s even admitted to having to apologize because her “acne” made her mean for so many years. So I don’t think they’ve really changed, we are just seeing Ellie’s true self now.

RRTgirl wrote:Ellie STILL looks ill and too thin though (prior to pregnancy). Before she got pregnant she looked worse than ever. She can’t take criticism well and I agree with everyone else. She is saying something now because it’s convenient and gives her attention, but she still has a problem! It’s not like it’s gone away!

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And don't forget she's always said it was in her genes to be that little! Even here we expressed concern last year at how sickly she looked, it wasn't just in the months after Calvin. It was all the way up to when she got pregnant and it took. Now we express concern over how she'll probably go back to her old ways once the baby comes. That idiot can't even say 'haters' don't express concern and are just hating. WE LITERALLY VOICED CONCERNS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. Over her, over her attitude with Jackson, with Jared, over Calvin's neck, Calvin's speech. She's stupid enough to point that out but there is literal proof of the contrary. This forum is full of proof.

my husband was brought up in a poor country just outside of Russia, and he was underweight his entire life because he grew up on one meal a day lacking a lot of nutrients in his diet. he moved to england and then we met, and he wanting to gain weight but no matter how much he ate, nothing changed, untill he went through this body building phase and took weight gaining protein shakes and then boom, he gained a ton of weight, not hes like everyone else trying to keep to healthy diet and gym to keep in shape. i think thats what she needs, weight gaining bar or shakes. maybe she is also like my husband. unable to distribute supplements in her body, which makes her look pale and sick looking, cause my husband use to have dark circles and fair skin, but he definitely looks healthy now after a good diet and exercise.

cleo2016 wrote:This is a horrible thing to say. But their lives were so much better off without Calvin. I'm watching pre Calvin vlogs & E&J are so different now. It's sad.

It's the YouTube money that changed the vlogs.

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I don’t think it’s Calvin or the YouTube money that’s changed. I don’t think they’ve really changed, I think we are just getting to see the true Ellie. When they started filming everything was exciting because they were finally getting somewhere with ttc (even though I fully believe it was just lack of timing knowledge) and then Ellie was on the new/first baby high. Then she got pregnant and that was exciting, then they built their house and that was exciting but now she has nothing to look forward to and hasn’t for a year or so. When they started ttc she was happier, we all commented on it and knew when she got pregnant because of her attitude change, but now she knows it’s another boy and she isn’t as thrilled. I think Ellie is a mean, negative person. She’s even admitted to having to apologize because her “acne” made her mean for so many years. So I don’t think they’ve really changed, we are just seeing Ellie’s true self now.

I was thinking about that last night - that her crap about being in a funk and not feeling like doing anything, piggy backing on Cullen’s depression issues becoming public and whatever is most likely about this baby being a boy. Bonnie’s one video after Julie’s gender reveal said that Ellie had told her she was a “hot mess” a couple days prior (that was right after finding out she was having a boy and Julie was having a girl). It’s like her constantly having to talk about pregnancy is for attention/sympathy but also because she has to convince the viewers (and herself) that she’s happy about being pregnant and that she’s happy she finally got the pregnancy she wanted when she’s probably just really bummed that it’s another boy because never in a million years did she think it wouldn’t be a girl this time. She was a lot happier before they found out the gender and then things went downhill. She suddenly COMPLETELY quit taking about being “soooooo sick” all the time and then suddenly was having a tough time with things and with existing within the household/family and caring for the boys and stuff (although she’s always been a lousy parent IMO). I also think part of the whole Mason obsession is because she feels like having a cute, trendy name will make her feel better/more excited about the new baby being a boy. Also wondering too...so someone had mentioned in the last thread a while back about how Ellie asked her mom basically for confirmation that’s Calvin was cute when he was a baby. (“He’s cute, right?”) Haha - like Jackson’s 4 year old mentality when they were doing the gender reveal cupcakes and he said if he put blue sprinkles on the cupcakes the baby would be a boy (because he really wanted a boy but Ellie told him that’s not how it works)...maybe she has it in her mind that if she picks a cute, trendy name like Mason then the baby must be super cute when he’s born. Probably a dumb thought that I have here, but Ellie is a wackadoodle so you just never know what’s doing on in that mind of hers. I just think it’s odd that she would be so adamant about naming the baby something her husband (who she supposedly actually “loves” - and communicates SO well with -haha) doesn’t care for it...she has some fixation on the name for one reason or another.

Taking weekends off is such a weird decision when Ruby’s channel is about to pass E&J’s in subs, and Bonnie’s channel is getting around 3 million more monthly views despite only doing 5 vlogs a week. E&J are going to fall farther and farther behind, and I think that’s going to create a lot of unnecessary pressure for Jared while giving Ellie more time to nap.

Boy, someone is flat putting it out there on Jared's post on Instagram yesterday when Calvin got into Ellie's makeup. The person told them how scripted their vlogs have become. The poster is trying to encourage them to post more real like stuff like the picture instead of talking about their 3rd vacuum. Ellie's answer is how she feels towards the viewers. She posted that they filming what they wanted to see and look back on and that she is happy with the content. So you can just like it or lump it folks!! Check his post out.

[quote="sheltiefan"]Boy, someone is flat putting it out there on Jared's post on Instagram yesterday when Calvin got into Ellie's makeup. The person told them how scripted their vlogs have become. The poster is trying to encourage them to post more real like stuff like the picture instead of talking about their 3rd vacuum. Ellie's answer is how she feels towards the viewers. She posted that they filming what they wanted to see and look back on and that she is happy with the content. So you can just like it or lump it folks!! Check his post out.[/quote

She is seriously not getting it. I don't want to see the kids crying or Jared and her fighting. That is not even the "real life" anyone is talking about wanting to see. It's about capturing the real moments and ins and outs of daily life. Bonnie manages just fine at showing that sort of thing without being overly exploitative (besides a few slip ups). Meanwhile E&Js vlogs typically include at least one clip about some new fancy product/makeup/bath bomb Ellie is buying or using, a clip talking about something they've already told us, and a clip of Jared blabbering life advice. And this is the stuff they want to look back on and remember?? The Hollein kids will be able to look back on their videos and think back to their wonderful childhood while the Mecham boys will look back on the videos and think why were our parents such self-obsessed weirdos.

I think the difference is that Bonnie and Joel truly do interact and enjoy their kids, so this comes through in the footage they choose to capture and the way they vlog. E&J I don’t think are engaged with their children at all, and I really do believe that what we see in the vlogs is the best of their day with the kids. I don’t think we are missing much.

When people expressed concern over her weight, she would post pictures of herself in the baby swing in Mimi and Papa's backyard, or in a bathing suit. Grown women don't fit in baby swings. Every time anyone expressed concern, she called them "haters" and blocked them.

kathpt wrote:

RRTgirl wrote:Ellie STILL looks ill and too thin though (prior to pregnancy). Before she got pregnant she looked worse than ever. She can’t take criticism well and I agree with everyone else. She is saying something now because it’s convenient and gives her attention, but she still has a problem! It’s not like it’s gone away!

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And don't forget she's always said it was in her genes to be that little! Even here we expressed concern last year at how sickly she looked, it wasn't just in the months after Calvin. It was all the way up to when she got pregnant and it took. Now we express concern over how she'll probably go back to her old ways once the baby comes. That idiot can't even say 'haters' don't express concern and are just hating. WE LITERALLY VOICED CONCERNS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. Over her, over her attitude with Jackson, with Jared, over Calvin's neck, Calvin's speech. She's stupid enough to point that out but there is literal proof of the contrary. This forum is full of proof.

When people expressed concern over her weight, she would post pictures of herself in the baby swing in Mimi and Papa's backyard, or in a bathing suit. Grown women don't fit in baby swings. Every time anyone expressed concern, she called them "haters" and blocked them.

So their blogs are now delayed with weekends off. I guarantee this is not going to make Ellie happy. She isn’t happy unless she has something to complain about and she is the center of attention. I think what happened is that they lost their purpose. They no longer appeal to the infertility group and they have lost appeal with the teeny boppers. So they are in limbo land and they don’t know how to fix it. I guarantee when Jared sees their monthly income going down he is going to panic. It is going to be interesting to see what happens.

This is that IG comment referenced earlier. Interesting that Ellie just doesn’t care that she’s putting out a shallow product. I don’t even think she’s going to want to go back and watch old vlogs talking about her 3rd vacuum.

And even more interesting is the fact that Jared didn’t respond to the comments.

HelloSweetie wrote:This is that IG comment referenced earlier. Interesting that Ellie just doesn’t care that she’s putting out a shallow product. I don’t even think she’s going to want to go back and watch old vlogs talking about her 3rd vacuum.

And even more interesting is the fact that Jared didn’t respond to the comments.

ZapRowsdower wrote:Since we pretty much know E&J read here, I thought we might come up with some good, clickbait titles for them to help boost their views in the wake of their new upload schedule. XD lol

I'll go first:

Title: "Never Expected This to Happen"Thumbnail: E&J sitting on foot of bed; E looking forlorn, handing J her wedding and engagement rings; J looking down at ring, "tears" in eyes.The Clickbait: Divorce!The Reality: E's ring gets "stained" from a Lush bath.######Title: "CAUGHT YOU DOING WHAT?!"Thumbnail: E Photoshopped into foreground reaming someone out (bc we need to see her face you know); E&J "arguing" with J in E's bathrobe The Clickbait: Crossdressing?The Reality: J puts on E's robe to "see why you wear it all the time! Omg it's so soft, which is good because you're PREGNANT and need nothing but softness on that STRETCHED belly of yours!"######Title: "This Day Came Too Soon."Thumbnail: J in the rock quarry - sorry - backyard - snuggling Penny, looking sad/serious; Ellie and boys Photoshopped into foreground; E looks like she's explaining something to the boys.The Clickbait: Something has happened to Penny!The Reality: They ran out of Penny's dog treats and need to go to PetSmart to get some more.######

Lol What else?!

Oh man that was hilarious and so accurate!

Title: "Shocking News From Doctor!"Thumbnail: Focused on Calvin with a slightly edited redness at the site of his neck where his torticolis is. Ellie photoshopped into picture, making sure to show her PREGNANT belly, but that has nothing to do with this. Her expression is a mixture of concern and upset. The Clickbait: Something bad has come up about Calvin's neck issues and they're finally going to speak about them! The Reality: They completely bypass the neck, don't even mention it, and the discussion is about how Calvin is constipated (from forcing him to potty train too early resulting in him "holding" it-but they won't admit that) and the doctor has ordered in a Rx to help ease his bowels. They will go over the details of dosage and other relief measures they plan to take for him. ....Ahhh yes, and I've just sat down to eat my lunch. Next 3-6 vlogs update us for at least 5 minutes each on Calvin's constipation situation.

ZapRowsdower wrote:Since we pretty much know E&J read here, I thought we might come up with some good, clickbait titles for them to help boost their views in the wake of their new upload schedule. XD lol

I'll go first:

Title: "Never Expected This to Happen"Thumbnail: E&J sitting on foot of bed; E looking forlorn, handing J her wedding and engagement rings; J looking down at ring, "tears" in eyes.The Clickbait: Divorce!The Reality: E's ring gets "stained" from a Lush bath.######Title: "CAUGHT YOU DOING WHAT?!"Thumbnail: E Photoshopped into foreground reaming someone out (bc we need to see her face you know); E&J "arguing" with J in E's bathrobe The Clickbait: Crossdressing?The Reality: J puts on E's robe to "see why you wear it all the time! Omg it's so soft, which is good because you're PREGNANT and need nothing but softness on that STRETCHED belly of yours!"######Title: "This Day Came Too Soon."Thumbnail: J in the rock quarry - sorry - backyard - snuggling Penny, looking sad/serious; Ellie and boys Photoshopped into foreground; E looks like she's explaining something to the boys.The Clickbait: Something has happened to Penny!The Reality: They ran out of Penny's dog treats and need to go to PetSmart to get some more.######

Lol What else?!

Oh man that was hilarious and so accurate!

Title: "Shocking News From Doctor!"Thumbnail: Focused on Calvin with a slightly edited redness at the site of his neck where his torticolis is. Ellie photoshopped into picture, making sure to show her PREGNANT belly, but that has nothing to do with this. Her expression is a mixture of concern and upset. The Clickbait: Something bad has come up about Calvin's neck issues and they're finally going to speak about them! The Reality: They completely bypass the neck, don't even mention it, and the discussion is about how Calvin is constipated (from forcing him to potty train too early resulting in him "holding" it-but they won't admit that) and the doctor has ordered in a Rx to help ease his bowels. They will go over the details of dosage and other relief measures they plan to take for him. ....Ahhh yes, and I've just sat down to eat my lunch. Next 3-6 vlogs update us for at least 5 minutes each on Calvin's constipation situation.

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Just throwing it out their I doubt its the but many kids with ASD/Autism struggle with bowel issues , constipation and stuff. I don't watch their vlogs much anymore so don't actually know if thats the case but ey

[quote="HelloSweetie"]This is that IG comment referenced earlier. Interesting that Ellie just doesn’t care that she’s putting out a shallow product. I don’t even think she’s going to want to go back and watch old vlogs talking about her 3rd vacuum.

And even more interesting is the fact that Jared didn’t respond to the comments.

Haha, I'm the one who responded to that insta post. She's completely just ignoring what people tell her. I seriously used to love watching them but it's SO boring now. Guh. I'm probably gonna unsub, but I keep holding out, hoping it will get better.

My god. Today's vlog, Ellie said that Jackson said "Is our baby going to live?" at the dinner table - THAT IS NOT NORMAL YOU FREAKING WEIRDOS! This is why you don't overshare with your young children.

Ellie is such a narcissistic bitch. Everything is about HER and it doesn't even matter that now her FOUR YEAR OLD worries about his baby brother dying because of her. Jared is complicit and just as bad for catering to her so much.