Moveable Feast Cafe 2018/06/04 … Open Thread

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Soooo…DS Bailey’s home needs decontamination.so he and family must be elsewheres…did he go home at any time after Skripals house and before going to hospital..no instant death….is it just paranoia of him and family…claims substance was at the house but police guarding not affected.etc etc …yawn….but whole thing is costing 10 million best uk smackers…….

“Interesting article on Iran and Russia’s diverging interests in Syria and elsewhere.”

Thank you for emphasizing that worldpoliticsreview.com is a zionazi propaganda site. It’s not a site I’ve looked at before, so your bringing their propaganda to my attention is a welcome time saver should I come across a reference to them in the future. I’m sure many others will likewise appreciate this service you provide, a123.

But the Southfront report does beg the obvious question – why, for the Israeli led strike, did the Russian military not provide the SADF with the access to operational data from its technical reconnaissance net ahead of the encounter?

lol… wow really man. Your going to call him out, when all you do is pour down Zionist talking points into the comments section. Don’t be mad that most here have figured your game out. You were also rather easy to figure out. Either go back, or ask for a refund from your hasbara training class, your not good at it, at all.

If you really think seriously that Russia is paving the way for Iran to be attacked, you are wrong. It’s another thing the question of Syria – there are discrepancies, but even in that question they both have a signed agreement on cooperation and Turkey is also part of it. Iran is very essential for Russia in strategical terms.
Why is VT “Islamo-fascist” doesn’t enter in my mind and I don’t accept it.

Lol, that’s funny I never got accused of being an Iranian propagandist on this site, nor ever in my life, from anyone. By the way I’m also not from Iran. If speaking out against the stolen land of Rothschild created Israel(A123’s little love interest) , gets me labeled as “Iranian propaganda” then that’s a label I will wear proudly. There’s a lot more honor in being accused of that, as opposed to being an actual Zionist shill, as yourself. A123, honestly your game got exposed a long time ago. Maybe try changing your name, maybe some will be fooled into taking you seriously again. When I see your posts, I actually read them, then I believe the complete opposite. About 90% of the time it brings me close to the mark. Enjoy rooting for your little stolen piece of land.

This conversation has been closed down – all other comments attacking another commenter will go to trash. Mod

This is a web browser thing. Most all of the main browsers require a site to handle https connections, and convert http to https in the URL’s. Some sites are not configured to handle https transactions, and thus the scary message. Each browser gives a different canned message. The one you reported seems to be from the Edge browser. Firefox gives:

“Your connection is not secure

The owner of dninews.com has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not connected to this website.”

but gives you the choice to proceed on to the site. There is not necessarily anything wrong with the site at all – they just need to make it https conformant. I don’t know what it takes to make a site conform to https – my webmaster skillz are 10 years old now.

But I don’t think there is a dire conspiracy going on here, or anything like that. I’ve gotten this message on many many sites that haven’t updated their server security settings yet. Hopefully, they’ll get it sorted soon. In the meantime, you can just ignore the warning and forge ahead.

It’s not worth using DNI news anymore, their most recent page was from April 06. Then they put up a notice that they would be back soon, which they did, but still with no updates.
I e-mailed them about it and got no reply, so I don’t know why Janus can’t even respond. I could find out from somebody in Donetsk, but I can’t be bothered.
If you want some info – official – on war news there, use http://armiyadnr.su
I use Yandex browser to auto translate it from Russian into English. HTH.

Ron Unz is just up in Russia Insider with the “The “Suvorov Hypothesis” that “claimed that during the summer of 1941 Stalin was on the very verge of mounting a massive invasion and conquest of Europe, while Hitler’s sudden attack on June 22nd of that year was intended to forestall that looming blow.”

The linked article is fully littered with all the usual tripe, so it’s really hard to see what’s “sensational”. It’s paranoid dictator this, incompetent that, the Russian winter preventing an utter rout, and what-have-you. It’s obvious that, contrary to popular belief, repeating lies and slanders forever is not sufficient — they also have to be accompanied by loud, noisy campaigns promoting the garbage as ‘sensational news’ to impress the average Western media consumer.

Indeed, to buy into whatever nonsense is put forward about Stalin, it’s imperative that one already has the “basics” right: Stalin was an infant-devouring monster with no moral compass whatsoever, From there, it’s an effortless way ahead. And it’s a time-honoured “intellectual effort” in the West (and its lackeys in other places) to combine separate litanies so as to achieve propagandistic hegemony. Stalin betrayed Germany, Stalin betrayed Spain, Stalin only trusted Hitler, Stalin was a Jewish lackey, Stalin was a rabid anti-semite, Stalin was on the verge of invading Germany, etc.

The boring fact of the matter is that Stalin fought tooth and nail to build an alliance against Europe’s Fascist states, but Britain and France would not have it. Makes sense, if for a different reason than usually suggested. Britain and France were up to their necks in violence, oppression, and atrocious famines in their colonial Empires. On this basis, Hitler’s genocidal racism and anti-communism stand out as solid Western hallmarks. Stalin’s USSR was one of the last to sign a treaty with Nazi Germany.

It’s quite amusing — and revealing — to look at the slanders targeting Putin today. Here, we can see the very same kind of infantile, incoherent drivel in action too: Putin betrayed Donbass, Putin betrayed Syria, Putin betrayed Iran, Putin only trusts Israel, Putin is planning to conquer Europe militarily.

“I wrote a quite long piece in reply to you but it appears not to have been printed.”

Happens to me frequently here. Herb said it is because the comment got picked up by the spam filter and sent into that folder. The mod then failing to notice the comment when they checked the folder before deleting the contents.

What I do is save the comment, if it is complicated or long and too much work to rewrite, then resend the comment to the site when it is clear the original wasn’t going to show up. (I did this with this reply, btw).

Also, lately, comments that are critical of trolls, or their spam, are often not showing up, for apparently other reasons…

I knew a Jehova’s Witness who appeared to be a true believer. Ludo told me there were only 144,000 places available in heaven and Ludo wanted a place. Ludo would dress up every weekend like he was attending the Oscars and go door knocking with his quota of Watchtower magazines. His parents were JW also. Ludo had been “conditioned”. He became unconditioned very quickly when the JW organisation refused to acknowledge his second wife.
Better get these “Bitcoins” while you can … stocks are limited … act now … do not delay … and there’s more.
A quick question concerning ethics … did you get into Bitcoin as a consequence of your own greed ? or did you get into Bitcoin to save the world from fiat banking. Do not reply, but introspect … and of course for some, well now, there is no connection here at all … is there !

They should ALSO be asked of ALL forms of Money……an invention for the avoidance of barter…..that has become for perhaps a majority of persons alive to day, their predominant belief system, their REAL “religion” to which they devote by far the greatest portion of their available time, labor and devotion.

I have no problem with dispelling and refuting all false belief systems and purging the invention of paper, metal, digital, fiat, and crypto currency means of exchange of falseness now known, as well as anything else in this category that comes along in the future.

Let’s go! Let’s get after this worthy project!

1) Back to Barter……or 2) How to improve the best known available alternative(s) to barter….or 3) Keep It The Same. (fiat)

Which do you counsel??

Or is there a 4th 5th. or greater number of alternatives you’d put on the table??

… Bro … whatever we choose, it must be completely isolated from the internet. It must be physical … able to be held in the hand and able to be passed to anyone who we choose and anonymously so. It must be portable. This combines and includes/ensures our freedom of freewill and our mutual privacy with transactions where we insist on privacy.
(notes and coins suffice … but not perfect, being fiat)

Bro may have different ideas, but if must be physical, then I think we’re talking about either bills or PMs.

PMs are not backed by any govt and will retain their value long after govts collapse. They are, however, not very convenient, not easily divisible, not easy to secure, and subject to confiscation (and thus, the many “tragic boating accidents” involving gold).

Another thing about PMs: whatever happens with cryptos, gold will still be gold. A thousand years from now, Bitcoin will likely be history, while gold will still be gold. OTOH, we will all be history too, so this virtue may be academic.

Fiat is more convenient, though I’m not so sure about private. A transaction on the Internet is more easily anonymized than an envelope full of cash that has your home address written on it. The main problem with fiat is that govts tend to keep printing it and so your notes lose value (e.g., the British Pound and US dollar have lost over 90% of their value). Thus, fiat is subject to inflation and eventually hyperinflation as it loses value (Weimar Germany).

The other problem with fiat is that your govt may one day decide they want to get rid of it and put you on their govt-backed electronic cash. Let’s call it “NSA coin”. They won’t give you much choice. They’ll just tell you that the old notes and coins are going to become worthless and you’d better cash in your chips, so to speak, for their new-n-improved chip.

Another possibility would be a local currency, like the Bristol Pound. Your city must issue it, you can’t use it for everything, and it may not be very anonymous, but, being local, it may be less likely to be debased, unless your city has financial difficulties and decides on the age old solution of printing moar money.

The way I see it, PMs are here to stay. If Paul or others want to use them, I wouldn’t argue against that. Govts may attempt to confiscate them, though, so people must understand that’s in the cards. Fiat has many problems, but I hope more and more cities issue their own local currencies, with more and more transactions becoming local, physical. If people want swipe cards for that, sounds fine too. The big question concerns fiats issued by national govts. They will continue to be debased and sooner or later their issuers may try to force us onto an NSA coin.

If cryptos can meanwhile become an alternative to NSA coin, that would IMHO be a good thing, at least for those wishing for some, though not all, of the virtues that Paul mentions.

To get to the cafe you may have had to cross the bridge over the river first, (it’s worth it, it’s exclusive and upbeat), and you may have looked down at the swiftly flowing current off the water and seen the banks rise up on either side that help to hold the bridge.

Having arrived, you reflect upon the journey, how the bridge connects one land to another, that the banks shore up and contain the flowing currents of water. That ‘current’ is what is happening now, what has been, will be, and continue to be in the future, and that the waters current is a currency for all time, and money, coins, currencies, and banks are adopted words used by us in changing forms.

Waiter, I do not have any change, may I pay for my coffee with this perfect phial of rose oil ? It’s hundreds of years old – or I also have this iron age Celtic ring – being a collector of ancient artifacts – this one is a small, sword shaped piece of iron, waiter, waiter … oh, he’s moved on, I am irrelevant, but I would so like to pay him . . .

transmutation involve energy…better read “curve of binding energy”… nice idea… not easy or particularly practical save for special machine. fission is at one end, fusion at other. everything in the middle is pretty stable.

If you wanted to make iron from carbon, example… pretty tough, wolfram from tin is easy though – place tin in neutron flux… thus solders used in such situations avoid tin and the trans-mutated brittle tungsten that’s brittle… bomb designers have all sorts of oddball problems along these lines…

“US President Donald Trump in a statement said that the professional football team Philadelphia Eagles will no longer be attending a ceremony at the White House to celebrate their 2017-2018 championship season because some players disagree with the president’s insistence that they stand for the national anthem.”

You are either with us or against us. The standard rightwing faggot mentality. I’m beginning to wonder if trump is a homosexual. He has taken on most of the israelis bush jr. homosexual freakshow, who learned it from “dad”, btw. His ownership by israel, further reinforced the impression, since zionazis prefer homosexuals as colonial satraps. Easier to control, more likely to have the necessary mental disposition (gays are predominantly both zionazi and generally narcissistic and adolescent in maturity).

”Last month, the US National Football League (NFL) announced it will adopt a policy this year that fines players who disrespect the American flag by kneeling during the national anthem, which is played immediately prior to the start of football games.”

That sounds like a Pindo disaster in the making. Coercion applied to enforce retarded patriotism doesn’t bode well at all.

Since the introduction of the Euro in 2002, where 18 countries in the European Union changed from their native currency to a Eurozone country; European money has become more boring, bland, general and universal with no imagination or individuality for the countries which use it. I was about 10 years old when the Euro currency was introduced so therefore I have no real re-collection of what it was like before the Euro, but via the internet it’s easy to see what each countries bank notes and money looked like pre-euro and marvel the incredible designs by great European designers.https://medium.com/inside-vbat/beautiful-money-2cbd3d1f8e5b
(the removal of identity)

An interesting question to answer would be : why wanted Germany to have the Euro – and pushed on all 18 countries to do the same ? were they afraid by their DM would be too strong because of it’s stronger economy and as such coming under the light-spot of City of London and New York ? bad memories comes in mind (Weimar crash and what followed) However, it sounds logic, now with the common Euro, Germany is assured for a certain time in this regard.

If you’re smart or rich or lucky, maybe you can beat the laws of man,
But the inner laws of Spirit, and the outer laws of nature, no man can.
No, no man can…

I wondered when I first heard this song many years ago, what are the “inner laws of Spirit” that she’s referring to? I felt I had an intimate knowledge of these laws, just that I wasn’t able to articulate it at the time.

Re: causality, Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causality_ physics ), states; “Causality is the relationship between causes and effects. It is considered to be fundamental to all natural science, especially physics. Causality is also a topic studied from the perspectives of philosophy and statistics…In classical physics an effect can’t occur before it’s cause.”

If an effect cannot occur before there is a prior cause, then in order to express life there must be some power, some primal intelligence that pervades space animating all living things. But where do we fit in, a seemingly insignificant speck of consciousness in this vast cosmic sea?

The primal power pervades every atom of existence. It is also sensitive to the highest degree. Sensitive to the thought, imaginative, feeling, creative processes – the subjective world of the individual unit of consciousness, or Soul. If the principle of causation already exists within the cosmic power, then it follows that the subjective processes of Soul ( an individuation of the cosmic power that has free will, is able to choose, to imagine, postulate, create etc. ) is that which gives it manifestation. The very acts of feeling, thinking, imaging etc. – whether conscious or unconscious, result in some form of manifestation, or effect, somewhere. This principle is known as “as above, so below”. Ie; what we create in the inner worlds comes to follow in the outer.

The jazz drummer Jack DeJohnette once said that he never considered technique as the most important element in creating music, but that he was always able to find just enough technique within himself in order to support his creative contribution to a particular project. This is a characteristic of someone in harmony with Spirit. We move into a symbiotic relationship with IT – that which is necessary is available to us at any given moment. When we fall out of harmony, chaos gradually follows. We cry foul usually pointing the finger at anyone but ourselves. But in fact we’ve forgotten the moment that sowed a particular seed of karma. And most certainly we disavow the ensuing watering, feeding and eventual harvest of said “fruit”. Blindness to cause and effect as a species is still our relentless problem today.

Rumi said, God has given us failure in order to know Him. Joni’s “laws of Spirit” are those that we must learn in order to become a conscious individual useful to the Spiritual Hierarchy. Some of the more difficult ones to master ( I doubt if we ever master them entirely ) are the Laws of Silence, of Economy, of Balance etc. but they all spring out of the great “overlaw”, the Law of Love. We’re best able to understand love, more so than freedom, wisdom and certainly power. Love therefore is more than our only hope. Love is available to all and leads us eventually to beyond the realm of the mind.

Thanks so much, Barry. The normal sort of thing I mull over over morning coffee, or evening coffee, or any coffee. Writing helps me clarify my thoughts. There’s an amazing order to things, if we don’t enter the gauntlet we don’t get the prize. Best.

For guitarists who are interested, check out the highly original and idiosyncratic approach of one of our generations best songwriters to the acoustic guitar ( the first live version gives an up close view ). The time signature of “Cherokee Louise” inadvertantly ended up 12/8. Acc. to Joni it was her attempt at playing a “shuffle”, but due to polio during her childhood, restrictions in the movement of her right hand resulted in her signature style of muted rhythmic half strumming, half slapping. Not a bad storyteller either.

“Brazil’s Dilma Rousseff was removed from power in a right-wing coup, co-conspirators of which have now managed to imprison the current presidential frontrunner, Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva. Ecuador’s Lenin Moreno has stabbed his former leader Rafael Correa in the back by barring him from seeking re-election, while seemingly purging his cabinet of remaining Correa loyalists and beginning the process of allowing the US military back into the country. Alongside other democratic and not-so-democratic removals of leftist governments from power, NATO has nabbed itself a foothold in the region, now that Colombia has joined the obsolete yet aggressively expanding Cold War alliance, in a thinly veiled threat to neighboring Venezuela.

And now it’s Nicaragua’s turn under the boot. Again.

The government has adamantly denied it was responsible for snipers killing at least 15 people at a recent demonstration. And, while we may never know what really happened, it’s fair to say an embattled national leadership in the midst of peace talks has little to gain from people being gunned down in front of the world’s media at an opposition march on Mother’s Day. All I’ll say on the matter is it’s not like we didn’t have mysterious sharpshooters picking off protesters during US-supported coups in Venezuela and Ukraine.”

@ written especially for Bro and Co … Real Money … in the Российская Федерация фантастики … as the Western World gasps … Western leaders are dumbfounded … threaten more sanctions … Павел reports from Moscow.
The new Russian money is beautifully designed with all the symbolism of the Russian Orthodox Church. The Russian Orthodox Church (ROC) prints and controls Russia’s money supply and it is all backed by Russian gold. ROC is an independent organisation under the watchful jurisdiction according to … God. The Russian Church now plays a critical role in Russia, making sure that all money transactions are immaculate. Highly trained monks and priests armed with Holy Books and powerful автомат Калашникова guard the gold vaults, the coinage manufacturing centres and the note printing machines. Everything to do with Russia’s money supply is today operated under the jurisdiction of the Russian Orthodox Church. On every item of Russian currency, printing presses and ROC office buildings are the words … “In God We Trust”.
This is Павел for RT, reporting from the ROC headquarters in Moscow amid some of the tightest security in the world today.

… Bro asked earlier in this Cafe …
… “Or is there a 4th 5th. or greater number of alternatives you’d put on the table??”
The simple solution, … is to return to, … to reestablish, … real money.
(I rest my case)

“In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. There is no safe store of value. (…) The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists’ tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights. If one grasps this, one has no difficulty in understanding the statists’ antagonism toward the gold standard.” — Alan Greenspan, 1966

The question that I see here is: why *hasn’t* Russia moved to back the ruble with a gold standard?

There are doubtless some reasons, and so then the next question becomes: can these reasons be surmounted, or are they binding for the foreseeable future?

Of course we hear about Russia and China stockpiling gold, etc. but doesn’t necessarily mean they plan to back their currencies with gold. It could mean the same thing that it means for many gold bugs: they see the possibility of a global economic crisis and they want some insurance if things get really bad.

I have a nagging question – if commerce becomes entirely traceable as digital information, how then will the intel “services” of some well-known “states’ – “see eye a” for example – operate their dope business at the retail and intermediate levels?

Of course small “deals” can be in mined or maybe purchased gold – but these fine fellas are said to deal in hundreds of tons…

It would seem that the two operations, ie digital blockchain stuff, and the global dope trade present their lordships with a singularity.

………….

Pirsig named a quality that might interest Paul…the gumption trap, and described two type. Might interest Paul in re his offspring…gumption trap and malaise seem closely related to my senses.

@ irrelevant … the “gumption trap”. This is interesting. My lad wants the world ‘his way’, or nothing. His old university friends are on the wire, playing games. The computer has become what he lives for … computer addiction would be a very likely premise to start ‘diagnosis’. Mental health services here just told me they do not know what computer addiction is (whoosh). In South Australia I am fully understood and assistance is available locally and two immediate areas also offered … he has been contacted and he refuses. There is a game of deflection going on where drugs are wrong, along with smoking, alcohol, meat eating, animal slaughter but computer gaming is okay. I joined a penfriend club (USA) … Dr John published “Cherry Blossoms” and “Lotus Blossoms” magazines. Cost me US$300 in the early 80s. What a journey … learned a lot of Chinese language which I use daily, have lived in China … expanded my “world view”. My lad has watched me write Chinese, Russian and Persian-Arabic script and I would have thought at some point might have requested that I explain and teach him … (heard me speaking Farsi and laughed) … gumption trap … stupid trap (I don’t know ! … but pray for guidance).

Very good point. If we’re talking about a public blockchain, conversely, it’s indeed unclear how the intel services (i.e., the putative evil stepfather of blockchain), would use it with the same anonymity enjoyed by Mr. Phelps carrying a suitcase of cash.

Apparently, there are already services monitoring various blockchain addresses for activity, which is how we know, for example, that Nakamoto Satoshi hasn’t touched his Bitcoins.

In the previous part, I was tracing our development through stages in our chronological ages, relative to changes in our bodies. One such stage was the womb-belly of our mother, deeply important to us and to a mother. In the Love Calendar solar year, we are in the 24th week; the theme is Belly, with the polarities of Born and Torn; corresponding to the Tarot cards, the King of Cups, showing a king on a throne and the Page of Cups, presenting a page with a cup in hand, holding a protruding fish. This step is within a set of sevens called Form, the middle suit of seven, third step up, identified as the Three of Form.

We are progressing with Joy through the year of time as we journey through a house-space of 52 cards. Each step in this game contains a story, stream of consciousness poem, prose commentary and a 21 line poem. All of the pictures and words refer to the over-arching experience of Love; which relates to the grand romance with God as our lover; hence, a theology or study of God as Lover, according to the text of Saint John’s “God is Love” meme. In this part I retype the stream of consciousness poem, reformatted from straight borders on all four sides to poetic lines, for readability–as follows:

I followed your lead in the suit of form
You led with an ace, I stayed in with a brace
You upped the bet with the Belly
The card you laid down next
The suit of form is in the middle
The truth is warm close to the riddle
Your discards are clue cards
And those cue cards are you cards
Your cards face up on the table in the open
My cards face yours when I’m able to show them
I enter the Belly with a low center of gravity
A water well below in a container cavity
A mother’s Belly is the missing link
Without that drink I sink and sink
No matter what I think I think
The big Belly meditators like Buddha and Mary
Make love and sex with the Belly
The reason they marry is for the baby they carry
Without the breath of the Belly
Life and death will miscarry
From my Belly flow rivers of living water
I remember now why I sought her
I wish she’d push that button
On her soft skin tummy
And lay down her cards
And call for gin rummy
We come in and go out like motions of a Belly
We rock and roll like oceans of jelly
We wax and swoon like tides of the moon
A Belly Torn person is dying of thirst
He’s leaving to last what should come first
Bypassing the Belly for a trip to the head
Water’s at hand but he drinks sand instead
Hard headed men with their pikes and poles
Have spiked their hearts and sold their souls
Cut and torn from the Belly by Caesar’s sword
They need war for their gourd or they get bored
I see them marching down the road to hell
Heaven’s for me, though, in a wishing well
Oh, sweet sister water and warm river mother
Deliver me from this God Almighty
C sectioned world, forsworn and forlorn
Oh, mother lover, make me reborn
In a world that is lightly and softly warm
Give me your breast where I take my rest
Build us a nest in your house consciousness
I love thee, warm and wavy Bellied sea
Conch-house me and consciousness we

Here in Wisconsin we enjoy California cloudless skies
In this clear Vineyard Cafe I open up my cloudy eyes
In the last cafe at the end of the day
Anon lamented the British decay
Not so at all, says Himself to me
The Plan of The Man is his decree
That Brits again will rule the sea
Of the Info War over you and me
Build up empires near and far
By means of money and endless war
It’s class that counts and mounts the hill
Of power over Deplorable rubble-fill
“Divide et impera” you should know
All the rest is distraction and show
Empire against empires old and new
Make One Great Empire out of you
So, Anon, Albion will fall and rise
And take on yet another disguise

The new cafe makes my day
Helps to blow my blues away
Per/Norway and Andre Vitchek
Say War is Peace and so it is
When we confuse hers with his

teranam 13 is on the ball, leaving Dos in the hall
Drugs are her theme of Oregon pot plants ten feet tall
And, God forbid, it ain’t true, Russia’s pushin’ drugs too
Anon seconds her with Vodka Russia’s coming day to rue
The Empire drugs us all with the wine of lies in alcohol
Whether we win or fall is up in the air, too close to call

Time to break this reprise-reverie
Got to eat and take a walk
And stop this wayward silly talk
But I’ll be back, just you and me
To share a drink and say what we think

How lovely, Dennis, are your verses,
I wonder why nobody cheered?!
Are you anathema to certain nurses,
An old whip, still childishly feared?

A smallish nagging only might be noted
lest wrong names might be wrongly quoted:
I saw you mentioned Andre Vltchek,
who seems no pszek, but just a Czech
thus no connection with Vitosha
but rather one with Vltava
like that radio station there in August
that also wanted just our trust.

“Due to the fact he ran in the Russian election, he obviously ran against Putin, meaning Zhirinovsky is NOT for the record, a Kremlinbot…these are the words of an opposition candidate, so the west should be careful what they wish for, when they wish for a different Russian leader.”

Zhirinovsky certainly connects the dots most appropriately as he deals with Western standard ideological horseshit, LOL. And, as Rafael Correa in Ecuador pointed out, a highly significant difference between GWB and Satan is that one of them is evil but intelligent.

“as Rafael Correa in Ecuador pointed out, a highly significant difference between GWB and Satan is that one of them is evil but intelligent.”

LOL. Did he say that? I really like Correa. Ecuador aint gonna be the same I fear.

He also stated once, in answer to a question about What the Dems and Repubs thought of something that “there’s more difference in what I think about something in the morning and afternoon, that there is between those two”.
I also remember seeing him, steam coming out of his ears, in a meeting with Obama who wanted to put an “institute for democracy” in Ecuador — “Agreed, the minute we can put one in America”.

kinterra – I dont think I did, but I haven’t been in the best mind-space lately and if it hit Spam I may have missed it. Do you still have my email? Would you re-send it please – I promise not to mess it up again :-)

I also like Rafael Correa very much. He treats the Zionazis with refined contempt and amusement, driving them bonkers.

Correa made the apt remark about Bush in the wake of Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez, who had delivered a fiery speech at the UN shortly after GWB. Chavez was alluding to ”odours of sulphur” and Bush being The Devil outright. Correa concluded that Chavez was wrong: ”Equating Bush with the Devil is offending the latter. The Devil is evil but intelligent”.

While Correa was spot-on about Bush, the Russophobes are not too happy about Putin being ’evil but intelligent’, ha!

Well, what kind of options do they have with the Empire of Lawlessness abhorring any international law & rules? If Russia have in custody anyone of interest to the Empire, they can try to bargain with the devil. But look at the other Russians captured and extradicted to the Babylon Whore Empire against the international rules.
Hope for the best & be ready for the worst…

from the first paragraph:
He believes pedophilia should be legal. He believes that incestuous relationships with minor children should be legal. He believes child pornography should be legal. He believes marital rape should be legal. He believes the 19th amendment (giving women the right to vote) should be repealed. He believes Hitler was a hero. He believes that a man should be allowed to “choke his wife to death” for cutting her hair without permission or other acts of “gross insubordination.” (Those are just the tip of the iceberg.)

Divan: Hafeez Shirazi #233 ( Trans. Paul Smith with note re: “seal-ring of Jamshid” , A King of Ancient Persia who had a cup in which he could see the whole world ( Universal MInd) …even that will not get you Unity if you do not experience Love)

If from Your garden a flower I gather…does it matter?
If by Your lamp, my feet’s way I ponder, does it matter?

O Lord, if in shelter of the cool shade of the cypress,
burning, I sat for a moment to recover…does it matter?

Seal-ring of Jamshid that works hard for good fortune,
if upon ring’s ruby You’re the reflector, does it matter?

My reason has gone from the house, and if this is wine
I’ve had, then, faith’s house, I wonder….does it matter?

When the city’s pious look for king and judge’s favours,
if of a fair One I chose to be a lover…does it matter?

I’ve spent my precious life on wine and on a fair One:
what comes from this and the other…..does it matter?

The Master knew that I was a lover and kept silent….
If Hafez also knows, that I am a lover….does it, matter?

Stefan Molyneux is another Zionist stooge, controlled opposition, look it up. From what I remember he supports the Zionist state, I think in one of his videos he even made the ridiculous argument that “people hate Israel, because they are jealous they’re not as smart as Jews.” So he basically throws around the same myths the Zionists throw around as facts. He also openly supports the fake state of Israel.

The whole left/right paradigm is a useless struggle to get us to fit into the boxes the powers that be created. Even though I agree there is bad in the left, but the right is just as bad. Its usually the right who openly supports Zionism and the apartheid state.

Oh, Vineyard, dressed in lovers’ apparel
Don’t you see you’re in dangerous peril?
Russia’s being attacked from inside
So are you ’cause you’re on her side
The Russian Orthodox Church ROC
Is not a True Orthodox Church TOC
Even TOC is slow and behind the times
Needs more rhythm and couplet rhymes

Azorka 1861
Cites Putin’s metals for large famiiy fun
A123 sees Iran and Russ no longer one
While Russia and Iran share a bed
With ZioChino all decked out in red
Vot tak, A123, Anon and Ahmed
Seek truth when all is done and said
That all Dear Leaders at the top
March in step or will quickly drop
You can take that rule to the banks
& thank the Lords of all think-tanks
The One Leader Dark is not about
Til the Love Army smokes him out

In a particularly thorny moment, Putin was asked about the Russian businessman, Yevgeny Prigozhin, and the allegations that he (Prigozhin) had been meddling in Western politics. By way of comparison, Putin brought up George Soros, and said:

“There are rumors circulating now that Mr. Soros is planning to make the Euro highly volatile,” Putin said quoted by RT. “Experts are already discussing this. Ask the [US] State Department why he is doing this. The State Department will say that it has nothing to do with them — rather it is Mr. Soros’ private affair. With us, it is Mr. Prigozhin’s private affair. This is my answer. Are you satisfied with it?”

Good response. But does this mean Prigozhin is as nefarious as Soros? That part doesn’t sound so good.

Speaking of laughs, the Community Forums are gorgeous and fully functional, I’m focusing my attention on posting there. We could have an entire Gordon thread just for laughs. The possibilities are limitless!

Really, I hope to see some of you Cafe denizens over there in the forums to join me.

“The bluntest statements have come from the chief of the far-left Linke party, Sahra Wagenknecht. “Someone like US ambassador Richard Grenell, who thinks he can lord over Europe and determine who is governing here, can no longer stay in Germany as a diplomat,” she told Die Welt daily. “If the government takes the democratic sovereignty of our country seriously, then it shouldn’t just invite Grenell to a chat over coffee, but expel him immediately.”

Senior center-left MP and former European Parliament President Martin Schulz also chimed in, telling the German Press Agency that “Grenell does not behave like a diplomat, but like a far-right colonial officer.” He added that “if the German ambassador in Washington would say that he is there to strengthen the Democrats, he would be expelled straight away.”

Meanwhile, Ralf Stegner, the chief of the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD) in the state of Schleswig-Holstein, referred to Grenell as an “election fighter for right-wing parties.”

“European citizens don’t need a Trump vassal to tell them who to vote for. A US ambassador who meddles in the democratic process to such a degree is simply misplaced,” SPD MP Thorsten Schäfer-Gümbel said.”

“If selected, Grenell would be the first openly gay person to hold a Cabinet-level foreign policy post. Grenell served as U.S. spokesman at the U.N. throughout President George W. Bush’s administration.

”Typical israeli quisling, typical neocon. A toxic mix of bum banditry and fascism with the characteristic total lack of moral grounding.”

Amusingly, this kind of offal doesn’t seem to give a hoot about, ahem, ”Public Relations”, to put it mildly. Serves their pathetic bootlickers around the world quite right. Grenell the faggot takes the compound ”ass backwards” to a whole new level.

Can you please watch your language a little more? I don’t disagree with the feeling, but let’s keep it a little more civil, okay?
Thanks :-)
The Saker

When The Wolf is in bed
with a cold?
with a zio-gay?
the mice come out and declare:
His rule is over!
The eon of Martin Schulz
hath come at last!
Sarah W., the famous
warden nurse who
silenced Oskar
will be dispatched again
to do it again
with a little help
of Friedel Springer and Die Welt
but must first knock down
Melania.

Peled noted how the high-profile killing of 21-year-old Palestinian medic Razan Al-Najjar closely coincides with the 51st anniversary of the Six-Day War “and in many ways, it’s quite symbolic that 51 years later, Israel is still… playing as though it’s maintaining some kind of a moral high ground, whereas it’s violating every international law. It’s abusing the rights of Palestinians, it’s killing, it’s occupying, it’s breaking every moral code that we could possibly think of and getting away with it.”

— Ahmad Algohbary (@AhmadAlgohbary) June 2, 2018

Najjar was killed by Israeli sniper fire from behind during protests along the border fence erected by Israel around Gaza — demonstrations dubbed the Great Return March and intended as a cry against the expulsion of Palestinians from their land, much of which occured in 1967.

“On one hand we see Razan Al-Najjar’s incredible display of dignity and then on the other hand we see… from the US and Israel, we just see this ugly face of imperialism,” Cohen noted. Israel “really isolates itself, as the rest of the world doesn’t really want to have much to do with this total slaughter.”

Two days ago I and my two surviving sisters spread my mother’s ashes in the wind around her mother’s grave in East Texas. Her mother died in the great Influenza epidemic following WW I, when my mother was less than 2 years old.

The rumor that her side of the family was from Austria turned out to be incorrect. That was probably some 19th century late comer who “married in”.

Women more than men get interested in sorting these things out, and one of them in either Oklahoma or Texas has apparently settled the matter beyond dispute. The guy was born in Devon, SW England in 1611 and was one of the signers of the Connecticut State Constitution. He either did that signing or arrived in New Haven Connecticut in 1644.

Back in South West England there is a small village nearby Devon, in Somerset, that bears the family name. I never thought that my mother’s maiden sounded very Germanic/Austrian! Quite the contrary!

Nevertheless, this instills wonderful optimism that the truth will be known and false warnings and irrational fears (even those expressed in poetic form….) will be quelled,and calmed before they do too much more cognitive damage.

Speaking of Austria:

“There are reasons for optimism. Despite the terrible toll of destruction underway in Yemen, Gaza, Syria, and elsewhere in Asia and other points victimized by British geopolitically-stoked strife, developments are occurring, which give grounds for hope and action. Three events stand out.

In Europe yesterday, Russian President Vladimir Putin was received for a state visit to Austria, where the theme of dialogue was struck, going against all the British dirty operations to date, aimed at demonizing Putin and his nation. Austrian President Alexander Van der Bellen said in welcome, “Russia is definitely an important part of Europe.” Moreover, as of July 1, Austria will take up the rotating chairmanship of the European Union for six months. On sanctions, Austrian Chancellor Sebastian Kurz said, they won’t buck Brussels on the EU’s current policy of anti-Russian sanctions. But Austrian leaders have indicated they will move to downsize Brussels, i.e. get a large cohort of European Commission bureaucrats fired!

President Putin said on sanctions, that the measures are “harmful for everyone–those who initiated them, and those who are targetted by them.” Today Gazprom and Austria’s OMV signed an extension until 2040, of their original 50-year-old agreement for natural gas supplies from Russia to Austria. When media pestered Kurz on why Austria isn’t buying U.S. LNG, he pointed out that it’s three times more expensive.”

The other two reasons for optimism cited above are in this morning’s daily LPAC briefing,

“Meanwhile, I wore my Putin T Shirt for inauguration day in Russia and now it looks like I will be putting it back in an almost inaccessible corner of the closet where things hang on hangers unworn for years on end. LOL

And I thought I was fairly sure Vlad could be counted on to not disappoint. Looks like we may have to keep a good many judgments suspended for a good long while longer than most human stamina can endure.”

So years before Freud and the emergence of the “art” of psychology, Dostoevsky in the Chapter called “Prince Harry, Matchmaking” begins his description of the making of Major demon #1, the psychotic Nikolai V Stavrogin.

It starts with a skillful depiction of what at best would be called emotional incest with hints of darker things and includes what happens so many times these days where the children are made to parent the adult or adults in their lives.

But more important things are afoot: Dostoevsky speaks from a moral universe and his unspoken question is why and how so-called “good” or let’s say, “not-bad” people “enable” evil. Will it be #metoo vs. #theyallknew ?

Police officers will get new powers to stop suspected spies entering Britain in the wake of the Skripal poisoning

By Kate Ferguson, Political Correspondent For Mailonline

New law would let officers stop those suspected of hostile activity at borders
It extends powers which can currently only be used on terrorism suspects
Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia were poisoned by nerve agent Novichok
Police and immigration authorities will be handed new powers to stop suspected spies entering Britain in the wake of the Salisbury attack.

At Darwin International airport (Australia) customs officials threw everything out of my suitcases and left me to reassemble and get the lids closed. At Brunei International airport a customs official asked me to open my suitcases, which I did. He stood there looking at the open cases … looking at me … looking … looking. Sir, I cannot touch your belongings … could you please move some of your things aside, so I can inspect. I did so and he quickly said it was enough almost immediately I moved something. Respect. The airport interior was air-conditioned to a temperature that caused me to shiver with condensation raining down the large areas of glass windows. Through this “rain” on glass I could just make out the enormous mass of tropical lush greenery of tall plant vegetation outside. Photos of the sultan and his wife frequently appeared into view. In the CBD of Bandar Seri Begawan, Chinese shops sold Chinese music cassette tapes. I walked past the Chinese school. The dome of the mosque is pure gold … I sat down near the mosque, near the sultan’s palace and contemplated quietly. Yes, alcohol is banned and these people get free everything that is good. No taxation at all. A local Taxi driver asked me about Australia, as he wanted out of Bandar Seri Begawan. Why, why, why I asked him … “it’s boring here … cannot drink or play around”. Funny part is, an Australian cannot get in … Bandar Seri Begawan, Brunei citizenship is just for those born there. Did I feel sorry for him, … would you ?

Yes, this is one of the human tragedies : even in paradies we are not satisfied, we want more…cause is boring, humans want action, some hardships and burn…then they will remember the old days with nostalgia on that lost paradise.

@ ioan … we get a glimpse what can be achieved in places like Chechnya and Brunei when capitalism is restricted and the authorities in power decide to treat the people fairly well … an honest approach … sharing makes such a difference. These folks drive (British) on the left side of the road. Just thinking of driving otherwise (American) “freaks me out”. Just love the “no taxation” and all medical and school is free. Anyone having unforeseen and out of the ordinary, real financial difficulties goes to the mosque and speaks with an official and their money problem is usually solved quickly and confidentially. Have prayer-mat … willing to settle and use five times a day … but I’m established in slogging on in “western ways” now … too late for me even if invited “to paradise”. Islamic peoples understand what real money is … but I’m not going to “stir the pot” on that theme anymore in this Cafe. Islamic banks administer “interest free” loans, any fee being towards their operating costs. Traditional Islam abhors usury.

“Seeking to soothe feathers ruffled by comments from the US ambassador to Berlin, State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert only made it worse by citing the Allied landings in Normandy as an example of US ties with Germany.

“We have a very strong relationship with the government of Germany,” Nauert said at a press briefing on Tuesday. “Looking back in the history books, today is the 71st anniversary of the speech that announced the Marshall Plan. Tomorrow is the anniversary of the D-Day invasion. We obviously have a very long history with the government of Germany, and we have a strong relationship with the government of Germany.”

Even though nauert is a fake blonde, she still reinforces the worst negative stereotypes about american blondes.

“On May 25, Trump and Trudeau had a dispute during a phone call regarding Washington’s decision to impose steel and aluminum tariffs on Canada based on national security concerns, CNN reported, citing sources familiar with the conversation.

Trudeau asked Trump to explain the national security justification, to which the US president replied “Didn’t you guys burn down the White House?” according to the report.

Canadian media outlet CBC News said via Twitter on Wednesday that it was able to confirm CNN’s report about the conversation.”

“Essentially this is the same concept, when a mouse presses the Red Button they get shocked, if a mouse pushs the Blue Button they get food. That is training a behavior through habit with negative and positive feedback loops.”

Hmm… red pill is a shock, blue pill a return to habit, to quiescence in life. Coincidence?

For those who read Asian news … about Brunei … “But we don’t want a city” …
But the nation, made up of two enclaves on Malaysian Borneo, has also become a microcosm of the trouble faced by oil-dependent states the world over as crude prices have more than halved from 2012 highs. The International Monetary Fund estimates oil and gas revenues in the sultanate fell by three-quarters in the four years to 2015–16.
The price collapse has complicated Brunei’s ability to keep a friendly but arm’s-length relationship with Beijing, whose vast territorial claims in the South China Sea include some of the sultanate’s oil-producing waters. Brunei’s wealth has historically allowed it to avoid the economic dependence on China experienced by some other states in the region.
“They [the Chinese] come and say: ‘We will build you a city!’” says one government official. “And we say: ‘But we don’t want a city.’”https://www.ozy.com/opinion/brunei-grapples-with-new-oil-realities/86583

Dear Saker,
Could we please have a clean slate at the new cafe when it opens, with discussion and comments, be they ever so challenging, fun, eccentric, wise and so forth, without deliberate offensive responses of any kind ?
These are not many, but they are underhand, undermining the whole.
I want to say, that in a community, people matter, all people, that must surely be the first and only consideration, and freedom, freedom to write, and whatever ones beliefs, to feel respect, trust and love.
Symnk

Of course people can follow customary forms of polite discussion, but they have to avoid being thin skinned or they will simply exist surrounded by echos or mirrors, no?

If we are never offended how can we learn?

Generally accepted rule is that a speaker makes an ad-homenim or insult when he has exhausted all logical or factual statements, and is thus in the grip of internal emotion – indicating that he does not like being unable to refute and is unwilling to concede . Is zuswang situation.

Naturally you are right, though I would argue that one can indeed sense the intent of the speaker, and that the intentions of my comment may not have been fully understood.
There is a place for thick skins and a place for fine, and my comment did not arise from either. Of course, I am free to comment or write poetry for the Saker blog cafe or not, as the case may be. I rest my case.

Artful (and non artful (non ideal) ) language usage allows the option (or accidental pitfall) to give false ideas about speaker’s intent. This is sometimes not within customary limits of politeness, but is also sometimes a method of discovery and demonstration of examples or or logic, etc, and is part and parcel with human linguistic communication realm. I agree with the sense suggested, generally speaker telegraph the emotions of their moment fairly clearly. Not, however, every time. Is error to use emotion and often imagined intent, for serious logic, no?

I’ve had heart arrhythmia for a few years but of late the symptoms have gotten worse: like shortness of breath upon exertion. Doctors want me to take meds but I don’t because of side effects; plus, I feel the cause is from early anxiety and fear, which I want to resolve with love, if possible, and not cover over the root problem with band-aid solutions. Risky either way. Anyway, yesterday, I made an appointment with a doctor in about five weeks time–should I live so long. I also had good news yesterday when I passed a “no glasses” vision test and got my Wisconsin driver’s license for eight years–will I live that long?

One solution is to get my fears down on poetic paper, while in a safe cafe milieu with you; hence the appended poem I penned this am. But first, let me thank Dieter from FWB for her/his kind words; give condolences to Bro for his poignant sharing mother’s ashes with us; to assure Anonymous that while sun to the back is fine, I need it more on my chest and where the sun seldom shines; and to thank one and all for sharing beyond the call of duty. So, rise and shine, here we go to Desolation Row, and sweetings by Cinderella’s chimney sweepings
—————-
Love in F#

Oh Love, my heart is weak with fear
I need you now to be close and near
My poor old body is short of breath
A fearful anxiety worse than death
My worried mind imagines a stroke
From fainting core so close to broke
Light dims shadow before my eyes
Walled defenses stifle muted cries
Where did shuttered suffering start
That binds and grinds baby’s heart
Back before my soul’s conception
Or at barbarian hospital reception?
The all clear-cutting scythe of time
Mows down my reason and rhyme
Naked before your cloudless gaze
One side of a scale fear doth raise
Oh Love, weigh not my fear alone
At least, I had not a heart of stone
Cower-cringed behind prison bars
I missed the moon and hit the stars
I lost the key and my place in line
Forgot your face in world of time
Fear came in to take up residence
Stole me whole without evidence
Left me in a bitter bed of anxiety
Til you kissed me in due propriety
When out of breath and hands blue
I wrap my heart with warmth of you

“in our own freedom the world becomes free…..when I am healed I am not healed alone…and I would share my healing with the world that sickness may be banished from the mind of God’s Son…who is my only self….”

HI Dennis. Thanks for all of your poetry. I’ve been slowing down enough to slowly take in, and appreciate your efforts to reach out and share something of your experience. If I may I would share a couple of Rumi poems because the first contains a wonderful, shall we say spiritual vitamin pill, a antidote to assist in our times of need. Its a beautiful elaboration on the gift we all have at our fingertips in order to move us spiritually, the word HU, pronounced like the name Hugh, and sung or repeated gently as… Huuu. The second reminds us that we are the eternal flame within, the “burning stick” which cannot be extinguished. Cheers.

“YHU”

Flow inside me, source of the
source of joy, life essence,

wine of peace moving in my hand,
then out, around…you know

the rest. Wound that opens in
the ground, perfect shot, wind

shadow, face of a strong worker,
still delicate, candle, a secret

completely obvious, you bring in
the gift, you hand us each moment.

You are the value rivering along
in any belonging, lock of hair,

you’re the human center. The
ocean of meanings gets a puzzled

look when it sees this hilarious
presence moving through…Huuu.

“The Moment”

In every instant there’s dying and coming back around
Muhammed said, This world

is a moment, a pouring that refreshes and renews itself
so rapidly it seems continuous

as a burning stick taken from the fire looks like agolden
wire when you swirl

Thanks. I never knew that HU came from Rumi, and who knows before him? For some 25 years I chanted HU as part of a new age cult-religion. The Leader led me to believe it came from him; later I learned he took it from Eckankar, and now from you I learn it is much older; so the world goes. I left due to money and sex corruption, and even now the memories stir angst in my breast. Can I rehab HU to its rightful place? I don’t know–maybe if I can get beyond the hurt and pain of those wasted (yet priceless) years. “Hello, Darkness, my old friend; I’ve come to talk with you again.” S & G.

I feel your angst, but must humbly disagree. If only in that in the final analysis those “wasted” years served to bring you to the point you are at now. As fas as HU goes, Eckankar certainly makes no claim to owning it, in fact refers to its ancient origins. Claiming the HU is like claiming the wind. No more can we claim the “Wind from Heaven” than we can claim or hold onto the physical wind that encircles our planet. At the end of the day, it comes down to love, and love is that which we all live, breathe and exist upon. The HU is one of the most effective tools to move us toward the heart of love. It can be any mantra, or prayer, so long as we hold to it, and practice it faithfully. We’ll soon learn whether it works or not. And without darkness, can we truly know love? In Spirit, and best wishes, D.

This is an especially weak article by RT. Not only Germany but no one has any evidence that the Skripals were poisoned by any country -although CIA/MI6 are high on the list of any suspects. To underline the lack of any facts it is still conceivable it was a case of shellfish poisoning with an opportunistic MI6/Porton Downs capitalising on the situation to spread some ‘Novichok’ post-poisoning.

Regardless of the initial circumstance the latter had to have happened -it is beyond belief that ‘pure’ Novichok was found on a door handle weeks after the event despite rain and snow showers and a substance that breaks down rapidly. Or that a substance that kills in 30 seconds to 2 minutes would allow a leisurely 3 hour meal before reacting simultaneously on both Skripals. That is sheer nonsense and doesn’t withstand a few seconds of analysis.

This last sentence is especially weak -did you forget to mention what ensued, RT?

“Meanwhile, both Sergei and Yulia Skripal have been released from the hospital following the incident on March 4.”

The ocean breathed all night long
The breaking waves a surfing song
My body in rhythm wave for wave
Meeting the shore where they gave
Breathless energy of your breasts
Bearing me up on foaming crests
A joy-ride journey into our destiny
A mystical marriage with Eternity
Laughter washed across the room
My prayer walked stairs to the moon
Lifted me up and then set me down
In the starry-strung ocean all around
Then I caught a wave sent by you
The smile in your eyes
The sight of your size
Took me by surprise
Surging swell
Mate me well
Make me part
Of your heart
O Womam
Ah, Men

Putin has a lot of patience … here we see the presstitute has been handed his “mission” in writing as he keeps looking at his orders and is obeying orders regardless of looking like a clown.
Rude Austrian Presstitute Keeps Interupting Putin – Watch Putin’s Reactionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjaBHKJZbiM
(have not watched Putin’s Q & A yet … wonder if anyone dared ask about Russia’s central bank sovereignty … or the introduction of those forgotten socialist values, those forgotten Christian values, of “no usury” … )

The thing operated on auto, basically an android with a preprogrammed vocabulary of phrases, which it spat out regardless of what Putin said. Essentially, Putin was arguing with a troll, a troll of the sort one frequently sees here and across the web. They have their programming and simply repeat it ad nauseum.

he is right, even tho im not a socialist i agree with him.
the ruling traitors needs to be purged in the entire west, we cant survive under a neocon rule for long. people need to see we have a common enemy in the politicians,bankers and their vassals. our choice is ww3 and slavery or being sovereign beings in a sovereign country. we have to stop playing by their rules and stop allowing them to divide us in to small weak groups.

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