Without much fanfare, AMD is launching yet another new product, this time the Piledriver-based AM3+ CPUs. Ready as a drop-in replacement for current 9-series AMD motherboards, the FX-8350 not only offers a bit of a surprise in performance, but also a suprise that your wallet will like too!

this is finally a great alternative to the current i5 line up, if you bought anythign less than the 3570k there was too much of a drop in performance.

Now the 8350 is so close in gaming performance ( what most of us buy top end cpus for ) i can advise people to get one and save money on cpu and mobo and either keep the money in the pocket or spend the money saved on a better videocard, a combo that will beat the i5 with its slower videocard.

Only thing i would like to see is refreshes of high end AMD mainboards with more USB 3 ports and UEFI support.

I feel this cpu brings amd back to the "if you are a gamer, go AMD" days where the performance these FX chips bring is all you need and could never tell the difference by spending more on i5/i7.

Isn't the natural comparison the 3570K ?...i.e. the Intel CPU closest in price..the CPU that also appeared in the review comparison.

For more impact I'd go with:"The Intel 3960X costs nearly five times as much, but doesn't offer five times the performance"
Still trudging through the other reviews. Seems like some reviewers didn't get a lot of time to do the reviews.

Only thing i would like to see is refreshes of high end AMD mainboards with more USB 3 ports and UEFI support.

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All ASUS AMD 9-series chipset motherboards have UEFI. Quite a few MSI, Biostar, and ASRock motherboards (entry-thru-performance) have it as well. It's just Gigabyte's 9-series boards that stick to ye olde AwardBIOS. They do feature "HybridEFI" if you want to boot from large volumes, though.

All ASUS AMD 9-series chipset motherboards have UEFI. Quite a few MSI and ASRock motherboards (entry-thru-performance) have it as well. It's just Gigabyte's 9-series boards that stick to ye olde AwardBIOS. They do feature "HybridEFI" if you want to boot from large volumes, though.

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Ah thats why i probably thought about general lack of UEFI cause i usually buy gigabyte boards, thanks for clearing that up.

cadaveca you probably should place somewhere why you typed 28-nm for Intel. Like:

1. Metal/Interconnect layers are comparable to 28-nm from other foundries.
2. Even though the name of node is 22-nm it actually has a physical gate(fin) length of 26-28 nanometers.
3. etc.

While you did say 28-nm for AMD the successor to Vishera is Vishera 2.0 and Viperfish(die name).

Vishera 2.0 will be on 32-nm SHP but will most likely have some form of Steamroller in it. While Viperfish will be on some form of 28-nm/22-nm FinFET from IBM and GlobalFoundries.
Vishera 2.0 = 2013.
Viperfish = 2014.

Isn't the natural comparison the 3570K ?...i.e. the Intel CPU closest in price..the CPU that also appeared in the review comparison.

For more impact I'd go with:"The Intel 3960X costs nearly five times as much, but doesn't offer five times the performance"
Still trudging through the other reviews. Seems like some reviewers didn't get a lot of time to do the reviews.

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Why? The i7-3770K and the FX-8350 are currently the best CPU you can get for their respective sockets. To get the best form intel costs twice as much..but doesn't get you twice the performance. I will not argue that Inteli s faster..it is, but AMD has price/performance sealed up in the
And no, there was not a lot of time...I am sure many had to wait for BIOS as I did, if they had a board in the first place. Seems funny to me that AMD gave me so much for FM2, but so little for this launch...perhaps this shows what is really more important to them...? I am not sure.

In my opinion the 8350 outperforms intel in multithreaded apps quite nicely for the price. For single threaded performance intel will be king for the foreseeable future. Amd does have a very competitive platform. I need more single threaded performance and am very happy with my 2500k for that regard. If I needed more multithreaded I would definitely get a 8350.

I see the opposite james888 AMD is the king of singlethreaded applications. It just happens that code that runs on both cores utilizes the FPU the best.

With single-threaded applications one core can process 8 instructions per cycle while in dual core mode both cores can process only 4 instructions each.

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I admittedly do not know much(or anything) about cpu architecture. I can read graphs though. Why does intel do better in most games even if slightly? The game I play most right now, Ns2, is heavily cpu dependant and is pretty much single threaded. I have trouble keeping 50 fps sometimes at 4.5ghz. I am pretty sure I would have a harder time with the 8350.

In my opinion the 8350 outperforms intel in multithreaded apps quite nicely for the price. For single threaded performance intel will be king for the foreseeable future. Amd does have a very competitive platform. I need more single threaded performance and am very happy with my 2500k for that regard. If I needed more multithreaded I would definitely get a 8350.

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Your link sends me back to Guru3d

Agreed you 2500K is great and not worth changing over to this CPU, its more so for us Phenom II users that wish to catch up to those SB users I think over all this new CPU is a good buy. For me personally its a good upgrade, ive had a 990FX board sitting here for almost 6 months waiting for a good CPU to drop into it and this for me is what ill be getting.

Why does intel do better in most games even if slightly? The game I play most right now, Ns2, is heavily cpu dependant and is pretty much single threaded. I have trouble keeping 50 fps sometimes at 4.5ghz. I am pretty sure I would have a harder time with the 8350.

Also, multithreaded is the future. It is only a matter of time.

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I think it is due to the faster cache and lower latency interconnect that Intel wins. The problem with Bulldozer is to focused on not making errors that it actually needs a higher clock rate. For AMD it takes to long to get the instructions to the cores and to get executed and get written since the L2 is so slow.

Suripse . . .. err wait nope still the same garbage as the last round of AMD chips, when will AMD get their act together and make a real chip.:shadedshu

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Which part is the garbage part? Power consumption is down, performance is up, and the CPU's clock well, not to mention they are drop in upgrades for most people with anything from a Phenom II to the "garbage" Bulldozer chips.