Two months ago I posted “The Devil You Know” and “The Devil You Don’t Know”… I had planned on posting the third part (which you are reading now, well sort of, this part would not have been there if I would have written it back in August, but I didn’t) shortly after. But it got really quiet everywhere again. And it was nice. I mean there was almost no response at all from the nut gallery over at FOTM (which I didn’t expect any really, I’m sure they tell themselves I’m irrelevant, and they may be right… self-named zero, right?). It’s just as well, I don’t have time at the moment to get into the craziness that resides at that blog. It’s like the tea-party and those at FOX NEWS got together, smoked some crack laced PCP, had sex, then had a baby… and they named it FOTM (Fellowship Of The Minds). Common sense says RUN! But I’ll just skip away for now…

The whole idea behind the 2 “Devil” posts was to ask the question out loud, whether to continue with the crazies I have been dealing with from LISK related sites or to move on to other crazies out there in the wild, wild, web. But, the question was rhetorical. I knew who would respond first and who I would continue on with (as I said, I didn’t expect any response from FOTM, they like their crazies all in one nut sack. Easier to control the misinformation that way and how many times do I have to say Dorothy and I are BFFs?) So I knew it would be the Flukeyou/Dorothy/Nancy team to actually reply, and I was ready with a third part to the “Devil Trilogy” where we could bring up another question… will get to that at the end of this post. So I sat back and waited.

Eventually, Nancy and Dorothy had some things to say on each other’s Facebook, but that was expected. They have a zero quota to keep up with, and must mention me at least every nine days. I wasn’t so sure if Fluke would comment again… at least not so soon… but he did. So I decided to quickly get to the new post, wrote down the title which I had already planned, “The Devil’s In the Details”. Then started gathering the different things I wanted to discus and link (see it was gonna be about how all the old things from “Dorothy’s Team” such as emails, posts IMs, etc. might need to be given a second look at to see if some of it can be understood better, see if any of it means anything or just proves they are all full of lies, games, and agendas. Something I’ve mentioned before and I’m actually gonna get to that part in a minute, so this parenthesis ramble is really not needed, back to Joey’s comments…)

So Joey made some comments:

Now I’ve already answered these in the comment section, but I wanted to post them as I see them, so you can see them as I do. I love the emails Fluke uses… and the zero’sazero still cracks me up. I also want to address something. Some people still ask how I can tell it’s the real Fluke aka Joey Scalise commenting here, and I think it’s pretty obvious it’s him, but hey, they do come from different IPs as you can see here. There were 2 different IP addresses used in the new comments, so it could be 2 different people, and I have said many times, some people may still be working together as teams to keep games going. But for sake of argument let’s just say it’s Fluke. I can explain why I think they are from him, but I don’t want to… yet… it’s all about the suspense now!

I will explain one thing though, from the minute I started my blog I kept a collection of screen names and their IP addresses. So did MM7, and she once sent me her list of IP addresses:

Did you make her list? I obviously have removed most of the IP numbers, but MM7 gave me the full numbers. I know she did it to help, and I think most of the time MM7 might have been helping in her mind, but her time to get it all out in the open has come and passed, she feels she has done nothing wrong, I know many who disagree, and I am one of them.

Anyways, I found it weird that these were the only ones she kept, I had much more, but I guess these were the ones she was pretty sure about. I compared her list to mine and started figuring some things out, but her list was a mix of screen names, people she thought they were, and people she knew they were. So it wasn’t until I had her blog to read as an administrator that I was able to truly understand her list of IP addresses.

Again she gave her blog to me freely, and before any of you say, she gave you info and then you used it against her, I’d like to point out, that until I saw her blog from her view, I didn’t know how messed up it really was. Plus I did not ask for it and she still sent it to me twice! I wouldn’t even open the link she sent the first time, I was very leery of opening links people sent me and could not understand why she would send me it:

Again think of me as you want, but part of the problem, actually a lot of it, was and is that some of those involved here were/are sharing so much information, misinformation, and personal information with everyone. Plus, as I said, reading that blog as it really was, made me see MM7 in a final light as far as I’m concerned. But I still think she could help nail the likes of Dorothy and Joey if she really wanted to. So whether she thinks she is helping or not, I think she could and doesn’t… plus she helped confuse a lot of stuff in my opinion. Yes, my overly public way of putting things out there may be wrong to some of you, but the private passing of info was way more damaging and in my opinion, still, shedding a light on all of it can only help. Well, most of the time I think that. Sometimes I think we should all just shut up. but that ain’t happening.

So Joey made some comments… yawn. Dorothy and Nancy’s stuff was much better:

This one cracks me up. Hopefully I don’t have to explain why. But I will. Nancy actually stumps Dorothy here. Dorothy tries though. I don’t know which is funnier, Nancy’s classic reply to Dorothy’s lame attempt to confuse her about who I am or Dorothy’s hilarious explanation? If I’m pretending to be Richie, then who am I? Oh, maybe you don’t know, but then how would anyone know what I look like? Oh the whole thing is such a ludicrous, conundrum. It makes me laugh to tears. I bet Dorothy wanted to say “Zero is Richie”, but that would show their cards. Right? Get it? Sort of? Hope so, cause I’m moving on:

I gotta clear this up, red and black are a lot of people’s favorite colors. I AM NOT MIKE! In fact growing up, as I have said many, many times, I idolized Nikki Sixx, his favorite colors listed once in a magazine were red and black, up till then mine was just red, but from then on it has always been red and black. No dots to connect, I just really idolized Nikki Sixx (still do, just got the new Sixx A.M. album “Modern Vintage” and I LOVE it! Playing it in the car every day, sorry, back to the post). I really wish you would stop seeing everyone as your ex. It’s wrong and it’s unhealthy. I’m done with that whole game. I’m not Mike. I won’t say it again. (sigh… yes I will).

O.K. what else?

Now why is Dorothy bringing up Florida to Nancy?

Oh no she didn’t? Kind of weird that MM7 ain’t threatening to sue Dorothy. I mean that’s straight VENT BLOG SHIT all over again. But then Murt has some messed up stuff about MM7 on his blog:

I mean this is worse than anything I have posted, right? Although I do agree with Murt (and the fact that MM7 made me agree with Murt only adds to that mountain, Murt is a real creepy guy, I mean really creepy) that there is some fishy stuff with the whole Drone talk, and I do think Murt was brought in to help confuse that whole situation, but my point here is, this guy is right in Florida, why not sue him or threaten him in some way? Maybe there’s more to this Murt connection then I thought. But again, we moved to far ahead.

Also it’s absurd to say I attacked The Scalise family, or Cristin’s family, or Dorothy’s family. I won’t even dignify it with a response. But hey, she posted a link to my blog. That was helpful. I like when world’s collide!

I was ready to respond to all of this and get to this post (yea, I haven’t even gotten to this post yet, not the one I had planned already) but then I decided to wait. I mean why jump when they want me to? I know a lot of you think I do. So I didn’t. I took the Sunday I had planned to write this and just relaxed… but now I feel I should finnish this “Devil Trilogy”! It might have lost something in the wait… or gained too much… I’m not sure which… but onward we go…

So as I said, after I wrote those 2 posts 2 months ago I decided to take a new look at some old stuff for the third post, like this email from Dorothy:

Wow, Nancy Evans Figat is mentioned. I didn’t know the name back then so it meant nothing to me, but with hindsight I can see Dorothy was trying to play the “Mike” game way back then, it just never took off because no one knew what she was talking about. I see another name that might mean something:

Pete Fiorello.

Or is it Peter Fiorillo?

Dorothy brings this name up a lot. And others have mentioned it to me in private. Am I suppose to chase this name like I have done so many times before. All of us chasing names and theories. Will it ever lead any of us to answers?

Well then let’s get it all out there in the open. Anything else in that email that stands out? And how about some of these other names I have seen out there:

Rebecca Hayashi

Peter Brendt

Alison Raffaele

Inge Curtis

Matthew Hackett

Rebecca Dennis

Joe Gargiulo

Gino Fiorelli or is it Eugieno Hernandez?

(NOTE: It was October 21st when I was writing this and planned on finishing and posting it the next day. But in real life I was dealing with car issues and other problems I won’t get into here, but they did all eventually work out, I know a few of you knew about them and I just wanted to update you. Also Linda came to Las Vegas, blowing my mind a little. We had a great time, and I enjoyed meeting her. She is just as she says she is. This made me wonder if I should continue… I mean, real people are involved here. Some good, some bad, some bat shit crazy… do I continue or run away like some of the others. So I stopped, right where the real post would have originally started back in August or September. Dorothy’s email and a list of names, which might have been larger had I continued… but again, I had stopped… I should also point out Nancy had been constantly IMing me on Facebook, and others said they were also in conversations with Nancy as well. You could guess how those went and probably be right, they all come back to the same stuff, all though now we are getting away from Nazis and into extraterrestrials (more on all that soon, patience and suspense everyone!). Then someone let me know Nancy asked about my wife… Why would Nancy bring up my wife to someone she doesn’t really know? Why would Nancy bring up my wife to someone who does not know my wife? All right fuck it, let’s finish this post and let the chips fall where they may. 11/6/14)

I could go on name dropping, like many here like to do… but let’s stick to some sort of story line:

Does this email Cristin sent me back in May of 2013, which is just an email she had sent Jen back in April of 2013 help explain anything? It does show the connection between them all. And that the break up came right before Jen came out in my blog. I’m thinking she was there all along, but now that the friendship was over she wanted to chime in on a few things. Funny thing is Jen and Cristin often sent me the same emails “from” or “to” each other to try to show me how it was the other one who played the games… how many of those emails are worth relooking at?

Is there something to be learned from the fallouts with Mari?

These ladies went out of their way to discredit each other to Mari, how much of it went on to be games and attacks on each other? By the way, that screen shot was sent to me by Jen, so the red scribble on it is hers, I believe trying to show me things… but the more they all tried to show me things, the more it looked like a bunch of crazies wrapped up in a never-ending caucus race. I’ve said this before, correct? But, are there things to be learned from these old feuds? Or how ’bout the fights that poured over from Websleuths?

Cristin sent me that a while back. It was one of her reasons for thinking PS149 was stalking her and was indeed CPH (Dr. Hackett). There are lots of emails and stuff on this subject, as well as the things on Websleuths and LISK.com that can still be seen. I’ve already clearly stated my opinion on whether CPH has ever read or been involved in any of the blogs, it was “not a chance” and nothing to this date has changed my mind on that. But I do wonder how many from Websleuths got involved in the games of “Catching LISK“. There are lots of this that spill into Websleuths world, a world I’m not suppose to talk about out of Websleuths, which kinda bothers me. Why does that place have to be kept so hush-hush? There is stuff to be learned there… lots of stuff. Right? So why not let people talk about it? what is there to hide? Something I’d like to get more into… but right now I’m focused on its past with MM7 and Flukeyou and the mess that came out of it. Untangling everyone, if you will.

So was it just a feud between sleuthers that bleed into a feud against lonely crazy ladies that tried to cling onto a tragic case? One that Fluke used to focus his own agendas on…

A bunch of feuds between some selfish people??? Is that all it all was? Is? Or was/is there something more to all it?

Again, reading this a second time (I found it a while back) with hindsight, might help understand some things. I mean, it isn’t hard to tell who wrote some of that stuff knowing what I know now. And that takes us back to some old gamers I’ve been warned to just leave out… should all of it be left alone then? Is it worth making some of these people account for their actions, explain their lies?

Most people think there is nothing to any of the lies and games peddled by all these people and sites… and I must admit that they keep leading me back to nothing… and yet in the same breath most say they think something is there… somewhere… in the CCC stuff… or the Utopia Guide stuff…… or in the Oak Beach Residences like Joey or Hackett… or in the connections to other cases and suspects… from the suicide of JB, the aquarium guy to the recent arrest of JB the possible serial killer… everyone has questions… everyone has connections… my question is… do we keep looking at old stuff even if it is from nut balls and people with agenda to compare to new stuff that may mean something? I mean can listening in on Flukeyou explaining to MM7 how he got his screen name help us with any REAL insight? Someone sent me a link to it as if it did:

You tell me… does any of this (and more like it, much, much more) help sort useful stuff from crap? I mean we all have stuff like this, right? Should it all be examined and weighed in on? At the very least it helps show how full of crap some people were/are. Right?

Or am I the crazy one here?

RHETORICAL!

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23 thoughts on “The Devil’s In The Details”

wow hindsight!! one can definitely see who was behind some older comments (crime scene clean up, lol) LOVE to know who left the ‘tip’ to Shannon’s remains (just kidding), but does this mean ‘Ms cleanup’ spoke to joe herself?? either way, its proves she’s been lurking around as long as joe…I can also verify IT WAS JG, as stated by MM7, who told me Candyce was friends with MD…ive ALWAYS found it shocking that Joe and ‘team’ have never ackowledged the FACT, that MARI HAD A PUBLIC, CLOSE ‘Friendship with MD’..Its well documented, pics and all..matter of fact MD has been visited numerous times by both JG and Scalise, does Mari know??? Yet none of them publically admit this, or came to Mikes defense..MM7 and JOEY being the biggest hypocrites, considering the FALSE rumors they helped spread..I can prove all of this, and YES, that means emails..like i give a fuck, like any of you deserve the respect…

I say keep digging ZERO, we can at least expose how phony these backstabbers are, which may help ease the pain, of some Innocent people, emotionally destroyed by these assholes…

DPH?? A USELESS PIECE OF SHIT..USED BY JOE TO PROMOTE HIS Agenda, BUT OOOOH SHE’S SO GUILTY OF Slander, libel and Stalking..MORE TO COME..
SHall we?????

susie, I have tried numerous times to converse with her… not a peep… the only one not to reply at all. was she sussiesayso? I wish some of you would come out of hiding and clear things up, lol. They go on and on how none of them are connected… but we see how that just ain’t true… ALL of them are connected… well not me and you Linda… we the true outsiders who seeing the truth and finding the heros like TCTH and others along the way! I guess we continue… ’cause even if it’s just you and me… I will continue on.

And as we’ve discussed my fried, if u help one person, its all been worth it, thats how change begins..You and yours, are everyday heroes..but you’ve done way more..difference is, you ask for nothing in return, and always stay humble..ZERO TRULY IS HERO…’They’ will ever get the ‘name’ thing, but some of us do..proud to know ya buddy!!!!!!!!!!!!

thank you Linda, it does mean a lot to hear that. But you are right, no thanks are needed, I do it because it’s the right thing to do. And we are just getting started! Who’s ready to put Nan Nan to bed? She really has nothing to do with any of this… and the time for distractions are over!

yes, from day one you were right!!! and you are one of the main reasons i keep this blog going! Too Close, you are the true hero here… and I will go on proving how right you were… and again, if new info can be found from these old games, good. If not, at least i keep letting EVERYONE know who was responsble for these games. JOEY?!? What are you hiding?

I’m really enjoing where my next post is taking me… I have new visions of a deeper understanding!!! lol, but really… get ready… we are finally really getting started here… we are at the begining of something… GET READY!

and thank you for the above comment zero, but you really are the hero because I was so close to giving up, felt I was talking to myself and a bunch of joeys. you gave me a reason to continue, to keep saying the truth. I finally found someone who listened

things happen for a reason… most of us here I think believe that way of thinking… and my finding LISK.com and Catching LISK definately happened for a reason. Again I say, look back a year ago at all those who had so much to say about all of this… where are they now? hiding behind their crumbling lies… who still stands by their words… you do Too Close, because they were the truth. Linda and I still chime in, because we have nothing to hide and were able to see through thye games. The few others out there who also had parts in this will come out in time I’m sure. Both the helpful and the gamers. But for now I think the world can see (or at least anyone paying attention to all this, that Dorothy and Joey had some messed up tactics for their agendas… they had help with the likes of Jen, Cristin, Sussie, and Candyce. They hurt some people (in Nancy’s case, quite a bit, but there are many of us who were affected by the lies and slander) and they definately hurt the cases they meddled in (an it’s not just LISK stuff). And I’m ready to go even further to get it all out there. I keep saying I haven’t even started yet, or I’m just getting started… well, I’ve started… people are listening now Too Close, be proud of your strength… you, more than anyone (but there were others of course) showed me what was really going on here, you never backed down either… god how that must piss joey off.

I will have to look for some of those and make a post… Joey couldn’t handle not knowing who you were. and you called him out every step of the way. Yea I’m not fone looking at LISK.com, thought I was, but new stuff and old nagging feelings kep telling me I’m not done there.