President Barack Obama on Tuesday hailed the end of the policy banning gays from serving openly in the armed forces, as the Pentagon vowed "zero tolerance" for harassment of homosexuals in the military.

"Today, the discriminatory law known as 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' is finally and formally repealed," Obama said in a statement. "As of today, patriotic Americans in uniform will no longer have to lie about who they are in order to serve the country they love."

The repeal went into effect on Tuesday, ushering in a new era in the armed forces. The law had allowed gay men and women to serve in the military only if they kept their sexual orientation a secret. They faced the threat of being kicked out of the military if they were open about their homosexuality.

Obama last December signed legislation to repeal the policy known as "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," which had been passed by Congress and signed into law in 1993 under then-President Bill Clinton.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta made it clear that the military would not tolerate mistreatment of gays in the ranks.

"This is an historic day for the Pentagon and for the nation," he said. "We have a zero tolerance with regards to harassment," Panetta told a Pentagon briefing.

Under the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy, more than 14,500 service members were thrown out of the military since it went into effect in 1993, according to the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network. (See graphic r.reuters.com/vaj83s)

Gay rights groups for years denounced the law and called its end a important milestone in the fight against anti-homosexual discrimination. Some have compared its demise to the integration of the armed forces.

I would be ok with this IF they (the you-know-who crowd) could keep their mouths shut and their pants on. If I never had to know about their sexual deviance- that is, if they never brought it up and it was never a point of interest in and around actual duty- then their deviation from biological norms could remain private and between them and God.

Unfortunately, they are not content to keep it between them and God. They want EVERYONE to know, and they want to shove it down our throats, so to speak, and I have a nagging concern that they are going to utilize the joyous jubilation of this terrible CiC as a legitimizing factor in forcing their deviance on the rest of the military.

I’m SO close to meeting the physical requirements to serve, and the more I see of this garbage the more I wonder at what the hell I’m choosing to do. It’s disgusting. And all I can say is I’m glad Obama won’t be in charge forever...

Repealing U.S. Code Section 654 of Title 10, also known as Dont Ask, Dont Tell (DADT) relied upon deception, disinformation, and discrimination. Deception came from the Department of Defense (DOD) poll presenting the fraudulent idea that the military supports homosexual behavior. Disinformation came from requiring equivalency for rejecting homosexual behavior with discrimination based on sex and race. Discrimination came from repudiating religious freedom for Christian, Muslim, and Jewish believers.

Politicians supporting repeal of DADT relied for cover on the DOD deceptive proclamation that 70% of service members see positive or no effect for repealing DADT. The poll was conducted after Congressional Representatives had voted for repeal of DADT. Therefore, only 29% responded by completing half or more of the questions, under the compelling logic that nobody really cared. DOD contacted equal numbers of reserve and active troops and spouses, but only 20% to 30% of those whose family members military specialty could place them in harms way. Also, nearly one third had never deployed. Supposedly all these responses provided valid information, even though people in base housing, civilian neighborhoods, and CONUS bureaucracies never experience firefights and IEDs.

The entire military exists to serve Marine and Army combat infantrymen. DOD accomplishes nothing of lasting significance until infantrymen walk the ground formerly held by an enemy, and well over half of those trigger-pullers opposed repeal. Only they understand the unimaginable totalitarian leadership and obedience demanded by their chaotic and brittle environments.

Military service deals with the issues of race and sex amid the consequent extraordinary restrictions of Constitutional freedoms unknown to the civilian world. Disinformation must therefore achieve equivalency for rejection of homosexual behavior with those discriminatory issues. That objective in turn relies for vindication on the 1973 American Psychiatric Association (APA) decision to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual.

Removal followed two years Newsweek described as ongoing disruptive, chaotic attacks on psychiatrists and physiologists. Yet throughout this campaign, no academic papers arose at conferences refuting any previous research. Eventually sufficient under-votes and abstentions enabled a third of APAs 17,000 plus membership to approve removal.

Next activists established a committee targeting leading researchers such as Dr. David Reuben, and Masters and Johnson to ensure perpetual sanctity for APA actions. No research papers would again confirm initial therapy success rates of 30% to 60 %, substantiating 7 of 10 homosexuals could eventually walk away from the lifestyle. Persistent activism over 37 years enabled ubiquitous infiltration of academia ensuring pre-ordained theses, approved research designs, suitable human data points, and enchanting statistical enhancements. The result has been social alchemy.

Psychology and psychiatry abandoned scientific rigor for popular acclaim. With homosexual studies freed from objective analysis, DADT repeal advocates relied upon base antidotal, emotional politics to dominate discrimination concerns. Advocates were free to avoid the realities of military operations characterized by sacrificial, primitive and intimate relations. Psychology and psychiatry were unwilling to demand a rigorous discussion of whether any mental disorders could be tolerated within the exceptional human structures needed to defeat enemies.

The Pentagon study never addressed the area of religious freedom, placing this form of discrimination for the first time among those restricted Constitutional guarantees inherent in military service. Previously the religious faith exception provided a critical foundation for surviving the grinding stresses and shattering experiences of warfare.

Basic theology explains why Jewish, Christian, and Muslim believers find their religious freedom evaporating with repeal. Followers of desert religions, who send their pastors into the chaplaincy and believers into military service, consider homosexual behavior unacceptable. It resides among the myriad sins entrapping fallen humanity.

For tens of millions People of the Book foundational Old Testament scholarship concludes homosexual relationships separate believers from God. When speaking of the character, identity, and purpose of God, He is spoken of as masculine, and all humans become feminine in relation to Him. Besides creating all things, God created heterosexual marriage as the earthy manifestation of the absolute unity and love He seeks with each person. Classical Semitic theology emphasizes identifying with God in spiritual intimacy, meaning any subsequent reasoning must proceed from that basic understanding.

Therefore after repeal, when believers reject homosexuality in counseling rolls and normal life activities, these people reside outside Constitutional boundaries guaranteeing religious freedom. They see themselves becoming guilty of at least cultural prejudice, if not criminality.

This debate veered into humanist social alchemy as a means to fabricate attachments to our Constitution and to dissemble concerning military operations. Unaddressed in the whole debate were the primary issues of Constitutional speech and religious freedoms, and of whether any mental disorders can be tolerated within the exceptional human structures needed to defeat enemies.

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Who said that? Who the f*** said that?
Who’s the slimy little communist s***, twinkle-toed c**ks****r down here who just signed his own death warrant?
Nobody, huh? The fairy f****** godmother said it. Out-f*****g-standing!
I will PT you all until you f****** die! I’ll PT you until your assholes are sucking buttermilk!

The LYING SOB in the White House and former secretary GAYtes did this to ous with a lame duck Congress. They leid and lied and lied about the subvject its impact and more. Its the sickest injustice as it will be used by gays as proof that they do nto have to PROVE inateness of CHOOSING TO BE GAY which is what most of them claim. No proof, NOTHING and now even others coming out (pardon the pun) to say they choose. They have won a victory that will most likely never be undone and will be the basis to ruin many good people by when they start to claim falsly that people should be courtmartialed for fictious hate-crimes (Read thought police)

This is a very bad day for America...she is fast fading into the past as a country no more. We used to stand for principles, now we believe the big lie of man-made global warming and the even bigger lie of being born gay and that its NORMAL!

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posted on 09/20/2011 1:57:32 PM PDT
by ICE-FLYER
(God bless and keep the United States of America)

Open homosexuals will neutralize the effectiveness of the troops on the battlefield. The military will cope with this. It it is already well advanced toward making it all irrelevant. The homosexualization of combat arms gives an extra kick to making the fighting soldier obsolete in favor of electronics. Homosexuals, open or not, in front of a keyboard or operating a mouse are not the problem that homosexuals on an actual battlefield would be. Troops on the ground, where needed will more and more consist of small highly specialized units that open homosexuals will not qualify for, and mercenaries.

I stress "open" homosexuals because the military has always had its share of homosexuals. When I was in I knew a sergeant of long duration who was one such. They are different. Their identity to themselves and to others is not their homosexuality. It is the military. They keep their proclivities to themselves, go to different bars when off duty and are discrete. They do not disrupt and are not a problem. Open homosexuals are political creatures whose entire identity and life are tied up in their homosexuality. Infantry units with such in their ranks will be in a constant state of agitation and not in prime condition for combat. The entire political system of the nation, now that homosexuals are"welcomed" into the military, will be putting legal and social pressure on the military to very quickly institute quotas for homosexual officers in every unit. The military will have to take large numbers of these "men" simply because these recruits are seeking free lifetime medical care for the AIDS they believe they will probably eventually have. Ultimately it will be irrelevant as the military becomes a totally computerized killing machine.

first thing the new president should do is overturn this pathetic mental sickness law.

Now homo’s can have homo parties in base.
Men can wear dresses after work on base.
same sex can kiss and hold hands on base.
Homo officers will give promotion to their homo.
women can buy strap on and both sexes can buy homo mags.
men forced to ahve showers with homos acting up.
survival training consists of men having to share sleeping bags with other men in cases of hypothermia.
the list is endless and this had better be overturned.
Hell not even a proper study was done over this but instead rushed through before the republicans took power.

All republicans which voted for this need to be targeted and booted out of office , same as those rats.

We’re talking about men thinking they’re women.
women wearing strap on and then thinking they’re men.
men [poking other men and they say this is normal, IS IT HELL

This pisses me off more than anything else this admin has done for a few reasons as a vet.

The marine corp still has alaw saying sodomy is illegal so how can this be now law

Sex deviates are now forced upon society as “diverse lifestyles”, whereas we all (those of us with common sense) see it for what it is; and the deviance merely is a reflection of today’s societal breakdown where personal responsibilty, self-respect, moral character, and honesty have all been tossed aside in furtherance of gratification RIGHT NOW!

Moral revulsion and combat effectiveness aside, This will inevitably lead to wholesale contamination of the military blood supply. Thousands of legitimate and illegitimate service related aids cases will collapse the system ala clowardbpriven

I have been trying to find a Internet Article I read back before gretawire forum got shut down by the Obots, and I still can’t find it, but I remembered something that was in it about how to handle people who may have AIDS and how you have to wear gloves and stuff. Has anybody mentioned that about this gay army stuff???

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posted on 09/20/2011 4:57:01 PM PDT
by Squeeky
("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)

Moral revulsion and combat effectiveness aside, This will inevitably lead to wholesale contamination of the military blood supply. Thousands of legitimate and illegitimate service related aids cases will collapse the system ala clowardbpriven

They've been able to legally serve, although not out in the open, for 17 years. Why would open service cause wholesale contamination of the military blood supply when it didn't happen during the 17 years when it wasn't knowable who is and is not gay under DADT? I'm not following the logic.

My daughter is a former Marine; she told me when she was in the number one crime on her base was homosexual rape. I wonder if the government has a policy for dealing with homosexuals harrassing straights...

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posted on 09/20/2011 5:12:15 PM PDT
by Vor Lady
(Everyone should read The Importance of the Electoral College by Geo. Grant)

How long do you think we'll have to wait before we begin hearing of homosexual NCOs (or even officers) raping recruits? Gonna happen. Count on it.

Sending your son off to serve in the military is going to be a lot like sending him off to serve a prison sentence, with organized homosexual gangs preying on the weak and, where gays manage to attain rank in numbers in a unit, forcing those soldiers who don't accede to their sexual demands to do all the most dangerous jobs in war zones.

Sure, the trash-can, garbage-collector, trailer-park queen, skank-bride is far and away the best, most ingenious mockery of Oprah that I’ve ever seen but the one of Obama, the moronic facial contortions that speaks volumes to the degree in which he is so unqualifiedly inept is a work of art, in a class by itself.

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