Well, I'm not of the view we're hearing all truth in this thread. Not saying anyone is a liar but going buy what they are told might be accurate.

This is for certain, Bobby had a shot to save himself but didn't conform. I also know that other indiscretions came to light that are not in the public domain. The man had no contrition. It was never going to get right for him.

But, like poster said, when they talk about him and the Cardinals every Saturday, nobody mentions Jessica, the motorcycle, the lack of contrition, how he offended Cotton Bowl officials who "will never have him back," the Falcons or poor Arkansas. They mention his coaching genius. And he did get hired as the head football coach. not the head of First National Church of the World in Northwest Arkansas.

But, like poster said, when they talk about him and the Cardinals every Saturday, nobody mentions Jessica, the motorcycle, the lack of contrition, how he offended Cotton Bowl officials who "will never have him back," the Falcons or poor Arkansas. They mention his coaching genius. And he did get hired as the head football coach. not the head of First National Church of the World in Northwest Arkansas.

Those people are in "sales".

Let's not forget the sheetstorm that followed him here. This was just the one that got him as he got comfortable over time. His departure was never going to be anything but ugly.

And for the record, I'm not a moralist or need my football coach to hold the perfect moral compass. Being a curmudgeon is fine. But he builds his world to occasionally crumble.

Were Petrino still here, it would be his 10th in Fayetteville. Possible, sure; I'd wager not probable. I figure Long would still have had to hire Petrino's replacement by now, and it probably would have turned out about like it has.

Were Petrino still here, it would be his 10th in Fayetteville. Possible, sure; I'd wager not probable. I figure Long would still have had to hire Petrino's replacement by now, and it probably would have turned out about like it has.

I agree. I also think the next coach, whenever it is, will be walking in to a really good situation, we have some very good foundational pieces in my opinion.

I agree. I also think the next coach, whenever it is, will be walking in to a really good situation, we have some very good foundational pieces in my opinion.

Maybe. I'm actually surprised by the lack of foundational pieces he's brought in. After watching Bielema and Wisconsin I was sure that, if nothing else, we would have strong lines and a decent running game when he left. Almost any incoming coach can do something with that. I would have bet money that 3 and 1 would be a gimme in year 5. For whatever reason it hasn't worked out that way.

I have a question for the armchair AD's. CBP after a day or two could have just returned to work and not said one thing. No comment. However, he called a press conference and lied to you, me, Jeff Long and every other hog fan out there. He was stupid for doing that and that is why I feel he should not be the coach now. When in trouble just keep your mouth shut. What say you armchair AD's.

I have a question for the armchair AD's. CBP after a day or two could have just returned to work and not said one thing. No comment. However, he called a press conference and lied to you, me, Jeff Long and every other hog fan out there. He was stupid for doing that and that is why I feel he should not be the coach now. When in trouble just keep your mouth shut. What say you armchair AD's.

I don't think he called for that press conference. Im sure if it was up to him he would have waited for the road rash to at least heal

I have a question for the armchair AD's. CBP after a day or two could have just returned to work and not said one thing. No comment. However, he called a press conference and lied to you, me, Jeff Long and every other hog fan out there. He was stupid for doing that and that is why I feel he should not be the coach now. When in trouble just keep your mouth shut. What say you armchair AD's.

I say it is pretty rich that you blame him for lying at his press conference and don't blame Jeff Long for lying at his.

Firing BP was a self-inflicted wound that we may never recover from, at least not in my life-time. It's now hard to imagine finishing a season ranked #5, expecting to win most games, being relevant, going to BCS bowl games. And who knows, maybe with just the right ingredients and a little luck he'd have won a national championship for us by now. It always seemed possible with him. Now success looks far, far away.

I see there are those on here that are still kissing Jeff Long's backside and believe everything he said about Petrino. I did the same thing with Houston Nutt for years until the truth about him became too obvious to deny any longer. The number of people finally realizing the truth about Jeff Long is growing though, and that's good to see.

Were Petrino still here, it would be his 10th in Fayetteville. Possible, sure; I'd wager not probable. I figure Long would still have had to hire Petrino's replacement by now, and it probably would have turned out about like it has.

I agree. BP knows how to develop QB's and the proof is in the pudding. When Tyler Wilson arrived on campus from Greenwood, he couldn't even take a snap from up under center without fumbling or mishandling it. It took BP and his staff 3 years to turn him from a shotgun only QB into a multi-purpose pro style QB.

I see there are those on here that are still kissing Jeff Long's backside and believe everything he said about Petrino. I did the same thing with Houston Nutt for years until the truth about him became too obvious to deny any longer. The number of people finally realizing the truth about Jeff Long is growing though, and that's good to see.

I see there are those on here who are still kissing Bobby Petrino's backside. My view is this. Bobby Petrino is a snake and a man of low character. Those who defend him and suggest he should have remained Arkansas' coach forget that the University of Arkansas is NOT chartered by the state to provide Saturday entertainment to a bunch of people who never even attended, much less graduated from the university. It is tasked with providing higher education to those who are accepted and to provide the state with lawyers, doctors, accountants, teachers etc.

I understand that many fans have no relationship to the university except the sports teams but those people should be smart enough to understand that Petrino was a representative of the university as a whole and, as such, the state of Arkansas and he abused his position, in fact he pretty much debased the school and the state by his actions. To rationalize his behavior because he won football games puts people who do that, in my opinion, in the same category of character as Bobby himself. Further I would really like to know how many actual graduates of the university, bachelor's degree or graduate degree, actually think Bobby Petrino should have been retained as coach.

I see there are those on here who are still kissing Bobby Petrino's backside. My view is this. Bobby Petrino is a snake and a man of low character. Those who defend him and suggest he should have remained Arkansas' coach forget that the University of Arkansas is NOT chartered by the state to provide Saturday entertainment to a bunch of people who never even attended, much less graduated from the university. It is tasked with providing higher education to those who are accepted and to provide the state with lawyers, doctors, accountants, teachers etc.

I understand that many fans have no relationship to the university except the sports teams but those people should be smart enough to understand that Petrino was a representative of the university as a whole and, as such, the state of Arkansas and he abused his position, in fact he pretty much debased the school and the state by his actions. To rationalize his behavior because he won football games puts people who do that, in my opinion, in the same category of character as Bobby himself. Further I would really like to know how many actual graduates of the university, bachelor's degree or graduate degree, actually think Bobby Petrino should have been retained as coach.

I see there are those on here who are still kissing Bobby Petrino's backside. My view is this. Bobby Petrino is a snake and a man of low character. Those who defend him and suggest he should have remained Arkansas' coach forget that the University of Arkansas is NOT chartered by the state to provide Saturday entertainment to a bunch of people who never even attended, much less graduated from the university. It is tasked with providing higher education to those who are accepted and to provide the state with lawyers, doctors, accountants, teachers etc.

I understand that many fans have no relationship to the university except the sports teams but those people should be smart enough to understand that Petrino was a representative of the university as a whole and, as such, the state of Arkansas and he abused his position, in fact he pretty much debased the school and the state by his actions. To rationalize his behavior because he won football games puts people who do that, in my opinion, in the same category of character as Bobby himself. Further I would really like to know how many actual graduates of the university, bachelor's degree or graduate degree, actually think Bobby Petrino should have been retained as coach.

That's right keep kissing Jeff Long's backside. Your ignorance is amazing. I have never once even tried to rationalize BP's behavior at Arkansas, I have always stated that he was wrong and should have been punished for it. He should not however, have been fired as his transgressions did not merit that. It was just another one of Long's failures

That's right keep kissing Jeff Long's backside. Your ignorance is amazing. I have never once even tried to rationalize BP's behavior at Arkansas, I have always stated that he was wrong and should have been punished for it. He should not however, have been fired as his transgressions did not merit that. It was just another one of Long's failures

I would argue that a state employee hiring a whore with stolen money was an offense worthy of firing and I would further suggest that you and every other Petrino supporter on this site would have insisted that is was if jeff Long had been caught doing it.

That's right keep kissing Jeff Long's backside. Your ignorance is amazing. I have never once even tried to rationalize BP's behavior at Arkansas, I have always stated that he was wrong and should have been punished for it. He should not however, have been fired as his transgressions did not merit that. It was just another one of Long's failures

He embarrassed the University which was a breach of contract and was cause for terminationHe supplemented an assistant salary with personal money which was a breach of contract and cause for terminationHe lied to his boss and the media in a press conference that he called himself

You clam there was no reason to fire the man. You are the one who looks ignorant.

I see there are those on here who are still kissing Bobby Petrino's backside. My view is this. Bobby Petrino is a snake and a man of low character. Those who defend him and suggest he should have remained Arkansas' coach forget that the University of Arkansas is NOT chartered by the state to provide Saturday entertainment to a bunch of people who never even attended, much less graduated from the university. It is tasked with providing higher education to those who are accepted and to provide the state with lawyers, doctors, accountants, teachers etc.

I understand that many fans have no relationship to the university except the sports teams but those people should be smart enough to understand that Petrino was a representative of the university as a whole and, as such, the state of Arkansas and he abused his position, in fact he pretty much debased the school and the state by his actions. To rationalize his behavior because he won football games puts people who do that, in my opinion, in the same category of character as Bobby himself. Further I would really like to know how many actual graduates of the university, bachelor's degree or graduate degree, actually think Bobby Petrino should have been retained as coach.

Wrong. He debased himself and his family.

Not one sane person thinks, "wow, that school is totally debased because of Bobby Petrino. In fact, I think I'll go trout fishing someplace else; the White River is in Arkansas, a totally debased and morally corrupt state!"

He embarrassed the University which was a breach of contract and was cause for terminationHe supplemented an assistant salary with personal money which was a breach of contract and cause for terminationHe lied to his boss and the media in a press conference that he called himself

You clam there was no reason to fire the man. You are the one who looks ignorant.

I would argue that a state employee hiring a whore with stolen money was an offense worthy of firing and I would further suggest that you and every other Petrino supporter on this site would have insisted that is was if jeff Long had been caught doing it.

I love the "actual graduates" opinion matters idea. Here's an idea, why don't we let the teaching faculty and students coach the team and call the plays? I mean, if their opinion matters so much, why not just have mathlete events in that stadium on Saturdays instead? The whole State supports the Razorbacks. If we didn't, they would be A-State at best and Fayetteville would still be a backwater town. The athletics are what bind us ALL to the program and University. Don't believe me or don't care, stop playing football tomorrow and see what happens to the beloved university in the eyes of the State.

I love the "actual graduates" opinion matters idea. Here's an idea, why don't we let the teaching faculty and students coach the team and call the plays? I mean, if their opinion matters so much, why not just have mathlete events in that stadium on Saturdays instead? The whole State supports the Razorbacks. If we didn't, they would be A-State at best and Fayetteville would still be a backwater hole in the wall.

Because some of them are graduates of other universities. We can't have that!

Not one sane person thinks, "wow, that school is totally debased because of Bobby Petrino. In fact, I think I'll go trout fishing someplace else; the White River is in Arkansas, a totally debased and morally corrupt state!"

No, you have a real problem if that is how you see it. He was not just a representative of the school and the state, but as the head coach in a football mad state, possibly the most visible representative. So I would say that "not one sane person" thinks Bobby Petrino didn't debase the school and the state by his actions.

Having a moral compass is somewhat important for everyone if society is going to function (and I'm no prude- I really don't care if he is having an private affair- that is between himself and his wife). But when a prominent person abuses his position and authority by using money that isn't his to hire a woman for his own personal (shall we be clear and say carnal) use then that moral failing reflects on the entire system if it isn't addressed. It certainly reflects on the school and the moral standards it expects from its employees.

I'm sorry- perhaps I didn't understand the situation exactly. If the $55,000 salary, or whatever it was, was paid out Bobby's own pocket then I misprized him and I humbly apologize and beg his forgiveness.