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Who is talking about bringing out the national guard to force it? Uh........no one. And you are supporting it. Spare me the "I would boycott" line...you are supporting open discrimination and bigotry in the marketplace. Sorry, but we as a society have a right to say Nope.

All government force is backed by its guns. You should know this.

And more drama queen dishonest arguments. It's ironic considering how you bitched about it earlier. But whatever. I would not support open discrimination. I would consume in a manner to discourage it in fact. I'm just not going to bring the guns of government to bear against the Individual. Sorry that you don't like choice and freedom and responsible consumerism, but it's more proper than government force against the rights and liberties of the individual.

You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville

"I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

A business license is a tax, nothing more. Paying a tax does not indenture one as servant to the state. Free people buy from the stores they alone choose. rty.

A business license is a means to track and oversee businesses in the interests of the business community, the public, and the state. The "tax" pays for the administration of oversite of things like anti-discrimination and labor laws, zoning, OSHA and other public health and safety regulations, inspections for such, protections for consumers, protections for businesses from other illegal business practices by competitors, etc.

Originally Posted by Bucky

Welfare is a bad thing? It is essentially free money. It is not that bad.

Originally Posted by Bucky

I look at abortion the same way I do Pineapple Pizza.

Originally Posted by applejuicefool

A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

The irony in all of this is the the bigoted baker invokes the name of JESUS....to do one of the most un-Christlike things that he could do. It really demonstrates that disconnect that a large chunk of so-called "Christians" have with the man they profess to worship.

And more drama queen dishonest arguments. It's ironic considering how you bitched about it earlier. But whatever. I would not support open discrimination. I would consume in a manner to discourage it in fact. I'm just not going to bring the guns of government to bear against the Individual. Sorry that you don't like choice and freedom and responsible consumerism, but it's more proper than government force against the rights and liberties of the individual.

1.)That's exactly what this thread is about.
2.)Quit being dishonest.
3.) A couple wanted a cake, a business said no
4.), so they got government to force the business.
5.) It's about cake in this case
6.) and you have nothing else to deflect to.
7.) So either continue with dishonest argument, or try to evolve a proper argument.

1.) 100% false its about illegal discrimaintion
2.) yes you should
3.) yes a couple wanted a cake and then a criminal broke the law and illegally discriminated against them violating their rights
4.) 100% false no the reported a crime and the judge order the owenr to cease and desist from breaking the law
5.) already proven 100% false
6.) ZERO deflection just facts that deafeat your post
7.) no argument is needed facts and honest destoryed your post already

fact remains never claimed anybody had a right to cake and if you disagree simply provve your lie and and qoute me saying it

Originally Posted by RamFel

Genetically human & human being is exactly the same thing.

Originally Posted by Hicup

homosexuality is objectively wrong, but because science tells me it is, not politics.

1.) 100% false its about illegal discrimaintion
2.) yes you should
3.) yes a couple wanted a cake and then a criminal broke the law and illegally discriminated against them violating their rights
4.) 100% false no the reported a crime and the judge order the owenr to cease and desist from breaking the law
5.) already proven 100% false
6.) ZERO deflection just facts that deafeat your post
7.) no argument is needed facts and honest destoryed your post already

fact remains never claimed anybody had a right to cake and if you disagree simply provve your lie and and qoute me saying it

It's about someone wanting somebody else's cake and not getting it. That's it. You have no honest argument left here.

You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville

"I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

Ex Post Facto is a legal term, it means "after the fact." In law, this means that you cannot declare an act illegal after the fact. IF a person opens a bakery in 1995 and complies with the laws, a change in 2013 has no retroactive authority.

Just because a business opened in 1995 does not mean that the only laws which apply when evaluating the legality of its operation in 2013 are those which existed in 1995. The act in question occurred in 2012; four years after the Colorado Anti-Discrimination Act was amended to include sexual orientation.

Originally Posted by Uncensored2008

First off, I am one whom Obama hates, I cling to the constitution. (I would say god, guns, and the constitution, but as an agnostic it doesn't work) I realize that is Passe in our brave new progressive, authoritarian world. We have a Dear Leader, that old Constitution is so last century... But I do hold to liberty - thus it is no more your right to force a baker to work for someone he doesn't want to work for, than it is my right to force you to shop at Walmart.

If you cling to the Constitution then you should recognize both the authority and obligation of the State to uphold the Fourteenth Amendment by creating and enforcing anti-discrimination law.

Originally Posted by Uncensored2008

Oh, do tell - which LAWS did the baker break?

The Colorado Anti-Discrimination Act.

Originally Posted by Uncensored2008

A business license is a tax, nothing more. Paying a tax does not indenture one as servant to the state.