Not to disrespect Gocong because I don't like to diss our own players, but Gocong at his best with us was still just average. I don't care what defense we are playing, if DQ and Gocong are on the same field DQ is the better player. My eyes tell me so.

Even if I were to agree with what you said DQ's history has shown he can't stay on the feild in the 34._________________The Dawgpounds new three headed monster!
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Not to disrespect Gocong because I don't like to diss our own players, but Gocong at his best with us was still just average. I don't care what defense we are playing, if DQ and Gocong are on the same field DQ is the better player. My eyes tell me so.

Even if I were to agree with what you said DQ's history has shown he can't stay on the feild in the 34.

The 2nd pectorial tear happened in training camp. I think he just had weak pectorial muscles (I have no idea what i'm talking about here) but Dr. Frank Cordasco fixed him up.

I certainly wouldn't get rid of DQ, if you have to line him up somewhere else so be it.

Not to disrespect Gocong because I don't like to diss our own players, but Gocong at his best with us was still just average. I don't care what defense we are playing, if DQ and Gocong are on the same field DQ is the better player. My eyes tell me so.

Even if I were to agree with what you said DQ's history has shown he can't stay on the feild in the 34.

The 2nd pectorial tear happened in training camp. I think he just had weak pectorial muscles (I have no idea what i'm talking about here) but Dr. Frank Cordasco fixed him up.

I certainly wouldn't get rid of DQ, if you have to line him up somewhere else so be it.

I don't see why it would be difficult for DQ to put on 10 pounds of muscle, even if it means sacrificing a little speed.

DQ? Why does he need to add 10 pounds?

I thought that in the 3/4 the middle LB's were usually big thumpers. If he had 10 more pounds of muscle, perhaps he wouldn't break down as much and be better suited for the postion._________________
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I don't see why it would be difficult for DQ to put on 10 pounds of muscle, even if it means sacrificing a little speed.

DQ? Why does he need to add 10 pounds?

I thought that in the 3/4 the middle LB's were usually big thumpers. If he had 10 more pounds of muscle, perhaps he wouldn't break down as much and be better suited for the postion.

Not necessarily. Look at the ILBs at Arizona... Washington is 230 pounds and walker is 244. I don't think this 34 is going to be the same set up as Mangini/Ryan defense a few years back. I talked about this very issue in the 34 transition thread._________________

I don't see why it would be difficult for DQ to put on 10 pounds of muscle, even if it means sacrificing a little speed.

DQ? Why does he need to add 10 pounds?

I thought that in the 3/4 the middle LB's were usually big thumpers. If he had 10 more pounds of muscle, perhaps he wouldn't break down as much and be better suited for the postion.

Not necessarily. Look at the ILBs at Arizona... Washington is 230 pounds and walker is 244. I don't think this 34 is going to be the same set up as Mangini/Ryan defense a few years back. I talked about this very issue in the 34 transition thread.

Usually they are split, one guy a little bigger who plays on the strong side and the weakside guy is a little smaller. You can always shade the NT toward a guy who struggles to take on guards. It's nice to have one ILB who is more downhill and can win the battle at the POA and another who is more rangy and can stretch plays out sideline to sideline. In a perfect world you have 2 guys who can do it all (see san fran with willis and bowman or pitt a few years ago with farrior and timmons) but you can get by with shared duties. I think DQ can play the mike role in the 3-4 just fine provided he has someone at the ted/buck who is a more north-south type ILB and good DL play to keep him clean._________________

I don't see why it would be difficult for DQ to put on 10 pounds of muscle, even if it means sacrificing a little speed.

DQ? Why does he need to add 10 pounds?

I thought that in the 3/4 the middle LB's were usually big thumpers. If he had 10 more pounds of muscle, perhaps he wouldn't break down as much and be better suited for the postion.

Not necessarily. Look at the ILBs at Arizona... Washington is 230 pounds and walker is 244. I don't think this 34 is going to be the same set up as Mangini/Ryan defense a few years back. I talked about this very issue in the 34 transition thread.

Usually they are split, one guy a little bigger who plays on the strong side and the weakside guy is a little smaller. You can always shade the NT toward a guy who struggles to take on guards. It's nice to have one ILB who is more downhill and can win the battle at the POA and another who is more rangy and can stretch plays out sideline to sideline. In a perfect world you have 2 guys who can do it all (see san fran with willis and bowman or pitt a few years ago with farrior and timmons) but you can get by with shared duties. I think DQ can play the mike role in the 3-4 just fine provided he has someone at the ted/buck who is a more north-south type ILB and good DL play to keep him clean.

Not to disrespect Gocong because I don't like to diss our own players, but Gocong at his best with us was still just average. I don't care what defense we are playing, if DQ and Gocong are on the same field DQ is the better player. My eyes tell me so.

Even if I were to agree with what you said DQ's history has shown he can't stay on the feild in the 34.

Not to disrespect Gocong because I don't like to diss our own players, but Gocong at his best with us was still just average. I don't care what defense we are playing, if DQ and Gocong are on the same field DQ is the better player. My eyes tell me so.

Even if I were to agree with what you said DQ's history has shown he can't stay on the feild in the 34.

I guess Mario Williams can't play in the 34 either?

Seriously. stop.

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Not to disrespect Gocong because I don't like to diss our own players, but Gocong at his best with us was still just average. I don't care what defense we are playing, if DQ and Gocong are on the same field DQ is the better player. My eyes tell me so.

Even if I were to agree with what you said DQ's history has shown he can't stay on the feild in the 34.

I guess Mario Williams can't play in the 34 either?

Seriously. stop.

I wouldn't mind trading DQ for a young thumper like Vontaze Bufict. That dude would be a thumper in the 3-4

I wasn't talking about cutting him, I am for trading him to a 43 team.

Why trade your best linebacker and defensive captain who has more NFL experience in the 3-4 than the rest of the linebackers combined?

Explain without sounding like a hater.

#1 there are enough leaders on the D that losing DQ wouldn't effect anything especially with a new scheme. His experiance is with the 2 gap 34 not Hortons 1 gap 34. It's like saying spanish and italian are close enough to be the same thing. So he actually has zero experiance in the 1 gap 34, same as everyone else. DQ is at his highest worth on the open market he is ever going to be again on the trade block. The 34 will kill his worth. Also with JMJ Acho Carder Fort Robinson and possibly Miava there is enough talent on hand to fill the spot opposite gocong._________________The Dawgpounds new three headed monster!
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Not to disrespect Gocong because I don't like to diss our own players, but Gocong at his best with us was still just average. I don't care what defense we are playing, if DQ and Gocong are on the same field DQ is the better player. My eyes tell me so.

my eyes tell me i will never say a bad word about chris gocong for his four straight goalline stuffs against PIT

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