“Planetary Dissemination”?

You know, if Planetary Clearing was really a thing, you would think they would spend some of their money to open some missions and orgs in India. Scientology is not banned there like it is in China. It’s a MASSIVE population and there has never been a single org in the entire country.

Instead, they ask people for money to buy books to hand to “opinion leaders” and call this “planetary Dissemination at the correct order of magnitude.”

And just as a note, the crazy stats about India you include only prove your complete ineffectiveness. 4700 newspapers and not a single one covering the miracles of scientology — even though LRH PR tech is THE answer to all things. 462 million internet users and scientology TV and scientology.org are “massively popular” according to Dear Leader Miscavige.

Unreal. The fact is that this is extraordinary delusion on a massive scale.

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Scientology – the cult of Evident Stupidity (TM) – is dying a slow and agonizing death. All OTs (Obviously Troubled) are advised to visit their nearest Org for a Mind Rehabilitation Course (MRC) – and to bring their credit cards. Persons who have only attained the status of ‘Clear’ need not attend, as that status is actually meaningless.

Hey Ed Rosenstein if Mike was such a horrible person all those years he spent at the top echelon of Scientology then Scientology must not work. Right? So either the tech is bullshit or you’re a liar. How can you claim Scientologists as the most ethical people on the planet if top management are unethical? Everyone who leaves Scientology is labeled a crook, or a liar or some other horrible condition. So then it’s clear for everyone to see that Scientology DOES NOT WORK and you’re all a bunch of LIARS. When you wake up & realize you’ve been conned The Aftermath Foundation can help. REAL help. Not the bogus Scientology kind

Mike Rinder – The True Story of a Hate Monger
I used to work with Mike back in the day when he was with OSA and still sort of in-valence. But even then he was riddled with hate (and never saw his kids). I used to dread the days he’d ask me to go get a sandwich with him at he Jewish deli around the corner. I remember one time he approached an elderly Jewish couple and would put a black comb above his upper lip to look like Hitler mustache and talk to them with a German accent. “Where are your papers?!” he used to shout at them. I would cringe and would be embarrassed to be seen out in Public with Mike. I remember one time Mike told me how to spot a Jew in public – “big nose, small penis, and stingy tipper”. Ultimately, Mike had to be fired from OSA for dereliction of duties. He’s not missed.

It’s sad that I am apparently losing my memory and in desperate need of OT 8.

It’s not just this that has slipped my mind, but a letter writer to the production company of the Aftermath recently said they overheard me calling for the genocide of all children in the Sea Org and that I had lamented that if only it wasn’t illegal I would have carried it out.

The problem with people accusing others of atrocities they didn’t commit is that they have to remember what they said. When you tell the truth, you don’t have to remember. It’s interesting how your story keeps growing and growing now that you’re gone. Pretty soon, I expect you will have 27 feet tall when you were there and have left everyone cowering in your wake. The deal is that the people making up these stories don’t realize that they are so outrageous only lying liars who lie would believe them.

Amen to that, RVW. I too am very happy for Mike Rinder. He began a new life for himself at rather an advanced age! Well, that’s because he has a brain and knows how to use it.

The Still Ins trapped, but all they have to do to get out of their trap is take a chance and LOOK.

The smart ones will do that. The courage to LOOK, the ability to LOOK despite being afraid, will stand them in good stead outside the cult.

The stupid, stubborn determinedly blind ones who have axes to grind and want to keep grinding them, those desperate to be right, will not have the courage to look, and they’ll live out the rest of their lives miserably in the cult, making their families and friends wrong, making themselves last ditch right, their determined blindness serving as their own trap, grovelling for whatever crumbs of approval from Head Criminal David Miscavige may come their way, making his approval the be all and end all of their existence. And that’s fine, because the determined blindness that keeps them in the cult would hinder them severely from succeeding outside the cult..

Hopefully the former group already is MUCH larger than the latter group, and continues to grow, until only a tiny handful are left when the Dwarf steps down in disgrace.

That said, don’t give up. WORK on those Suppressive Postulates! Keep your eye on the mountain! We NEVER close the door on anyone, The Board will meet next year and I’ll arrange for a review of your application.

Now, if you’ll excuse me, my Hemlock Brownies need to come out of the oven. I’ve got some extremely noisy neighbors coming for tea.. Afterwards a group of us Elites will be meeting to drill the flawless insertion of razor blades into candy apples so as to properly welcome the adorable little tykes who’ll be trick-or-treating in the area this Halloween. . TTFN!

Why, Mike Rinder! How dare you!
Imitating Hitler in front of Jewish people!
Shame! Shame!
Tsk, tsk!
( by the way, this is just me showing off my smartass side. I know you would never do anything like that.)

The signing of the Church of Scientology Religious Services Contract is required prior to receiving any service. This just a small piece of it but should be enough to sway anyone from getting involved with scientology.

Scientology is granted by the parishioner to allow the kidnapping any of its members and lock them up for an indefinite duration of time — and this without the kidnapped member having the benefit of any legal representation, legal hearing, medical evaluation, or medical intervention. All a Scientology Inc. “case supervisor” has to say is that a member has gone Type III. After this pronouncement, the member is bodily seized, locked up, and held against their will. This happened to Lisa McPherson. Lisa became the victim of negligent homicide while being held captive in Scientology Inc.’s dangerous and quasi-felonious exercise in complete quackery known as the Introspection Rundown. The Scientologist agrees to not sue the Church for any injuries or damage — and this release contemplates death — that might or could occur when one is being held as a religious prisoner in the Introspection Rundown.

It seems to me that this embodies the two things we are seeing in Scientology propaganda these days: the use of “stats” about whatever area is involved, implying opportunities to “reach” and disseminate, thus conveniently glossing over Scientology’s actual dismal and declining “stats,” and saving them the trouble of trying to twist something sounding like a “win” out of their ongoing failure; and a focus on far away places, where it’s conveniently difficulty for anyone to fact-check what is actually going on, and sometimes easier for them to set up photo ops, such as when they invited a large number of locals for food and entertainment dockside in Barbados.

As far as their distribution of books, in Colombia they have claimed to have “stocked” all the more than 2,000 libraries in the country with the “basics” – and I don’t doubt that members paid Scientology’s high profit margin full prices to have sets shipped to every one. However, to try to gauge the success of that effort, I checked the Bogotá district library online catalog, which might only index 18 of the 24 locations, but only 2 seemed to have enough Scientology books to possibly make up a full set of basics, and only 2 others even had copies of Dianetics (in Spanish).

In ScientologyWorld™, India is part of the UK. Along with Pakistan and Bangladesh. Oh…and Ireland. There used to be a “bustling” Dianetics group in Assam at the beginning of the decade (with some 48…ahem… “study groups”) but I have no idea if it still exists. Their tithe stats were very low in comparison to other field groups so I assume they were delivering to randoms for free. There was also a “Pioneer Project” in 2012 led by “Lord” Duncan McNair to try and get something going in Delhi (which tells you everything you need to know about the “mission” that has supposedly been there since 2002).

Speaking of Delhi, Scientology proudly claims “growth of exponential proportions” and yet, in a territory of some 29 million people, in a country that has more facebook users than any other, this megalopolitan mission struggles to get more than 20 “likes” for each posted “win”.

Isn’t this all just more of Captain Dave’s pattern though? Get some pretty pictures to show the big donors at some event. Feed them a line of crap about the great things they are doing there. (he knows no one is going to question it) Soak up the adoration. All that’s left is to sit back and collect as much of their money as he can squeeze out of them. Call it a day.

The book sales guys see stats are too low. Gotta sell some books. I know! Let’s get the still-in’s to buy some books. How, he said? Package them up in a great purpose, play on their inner goodness and willingness to help, and let’s get them sold. That should work! No?

I don’t want to give anyone ideas here (you OSA net nannies go away) but I think the solution and sure fire money maker for the cult would be to advertise an Indian version of the Purification Rundown to clean up any of those nasty unwanted caste issues some folks are burdened with. It would be about as effective as the current Putrefaction Rundown the cult offers to handle drugs, radiation and toxins that have somehow accumulated in the body. But, who cares about effectiveness when the cash is flowing?

Since I expect the shudras/untouchable would generally be excluded; not so much by caste as lack of money. I also expect that ‘wog’ might not be a words bandied about as much as it is in the US. In India as well as other parts of the old Empire, they KNOW what the word means and some locals might get pretty PO’d about being called such. That Ron, SUCH a joker…. NOT

I just wanted to be sure so i looked it up and i brlieve it was the Chinese who developed the decimal system. But hey, they are close to each other ethnic wise right? NOT! Also my other comments were answered, should have read it sooner. Scientology could have disseminated the country much faster if they had put a book of Dianetics in the hands of ” Slumdog Millionaire” movie stars instead of “The Three Musketeers”. Movie was seen by millions of people, millions more than scientology TV.

What are the average CSN stats? ZERO 18-80 age brackets ZERO % of households ZERO market share? Also ZERO new people into the idle mOrgs, to go with the ZERO WDAH, ZERO auditor completions, ZERO bodies in the shop….. AND the beat goes on.

Actually, India is generally given credit for using the decimal system without recognizing it as a “breakthrough” around 600 AD. It probably started by observing that humans have 10 fingers. Unfortunately, the highest number which could be represented is 10. For all we know, the apes may have discovered the decimal system much earlier.

Another mockery in action concerning the delusions used to elicit money from the well intentioned.
Scientology is a dismal failure in countries like the US, England, Australia, Ireland, Canada, Scotland, Sth Africa, Israel et al. If it doesn’t work in any of those societies, what’s the odds it’s going to work somewhere like India? Oh I just remembered, Colombia is the shinning jewel of Scientology’s global accomplishments! Maybe they should get a couple of cartels involved to help spread the good word of Hubbard in India. They have their own tried and true methods of going about business. Bit messy, but boy, the monies great! Oh! There’s always the NOI to fall back on too for examples of the wonders of Scientology.

Muslims are forbidden pork. NOIs are not Muslims. The NOI is an African American religion and they may give lip service to the Islamic food laws but they do not adhere to them and there’s no penalty for NOIs who eat pork in all its forms – bacon, sausages, ribs – they eat it ALL.

OK, I can be corrected on such matters. However, if you’re in bed with Scientology and listen to Miscavige… well I’ll change my mind and will think worse of them than I did before. Their agenda is what exactly (reference to Islam aside)?

Yawn, I’m no expert on the NOI’s agenda but in its pure philosophy I believe it was founded on the principles of uplifting the African American, of creating a mindset in African Americans of the kind of pride in their heritage that would enable them to flourish and prosper with – and in spite of white people. A good reference to start with would be Alex Haley’s “The Biography of Malcolm X”” an ex-criminal and ne’er do well who taught himself to write by reading the entire dictionary while he was in prison. His real name was Malcolm Little. Raised in the Jim Crow South with crosses burned on his lawn, he started out as a bitter hater of all white people and,rose to became the NOI’s leader. At some point afterwards he had an epiphany about hating being not the way to achieve what he wanted for himself, his family and his flock, etc. His whole world view changed. His realization was that all men were truly brothers. He then ceased preaching hatred of whites or anyone. totally reversed himself and instead preached brotherly love among all the races to the NOI. Shortly afterwards he was assassinated. A tremendously interesting man and the book is a great read.

Quick correction, Yawn: Malcolm X didn’t teach himself to WRITE, per se, in prison. He could already read and write. I don’t recall if he graduated or dropped out of high school. In any event in the book he recounts to author Alex Haley how taught himself superior literacy by reading every word from A thru Z in a thick dictionary in the library of a prison in which he was incarcerated for a period of time.. Starting with, he said “aardvark”, each day he’s spend time in the library reading the dictionary until he got thru all the “Z” words. Quite an accomplishment, IMO and certainly a testament to anyone’s self discipline and persistence on a given course..

Aqua, it sounds like the NOI need to go and reread Elijah Muhammad because in his two book series called “How To Eat To Live”, he emphatically tells the NOI that they are NOT to eat any pork whatsoever. I mean, he also tells them that they are only to eat one meal a day as well as to abstain from what most people would call soul food but he is very adamant with regards to pig meat. Maybe Louis Farrakhan altered the rules after he took over but Elijah Poole Muhammad was very firm about his teachings.

Alcoboy, thanks. I should NOT have been unequivocal about what I stated. My evidence for it was anecdotal.. I saw NOI members in their turbans and long skirts (women) pigging out (in every sense of the word) on huge plates of barbecued ribs, mac and cheese, collard greens, etc.. This was one instance and I just assumed that the Muslim food laws didn’t apply to American NOI. My bad. Also I’ve never read what Elijah Muhammad the Founder wrote. Maybe as you say Calypso Louie doesn’t enforce the no pork rule but then I really don’t know and shouldn’t have sounded off about it just because a friend and I happened to observe 4 NOI ladies enjoying pork at a popular soul food place in my area. In any event, thanks for setting me straight on this point!

Well, that’s my point entirely. These good ladies need to go read the aforementioned books by Mr.
Poole(aka Elijah Muhammad) and then get their NOI ethics in. But then again, every religion has its share of hypocrites.

Well, Alcoboy, my friends and I do like us some soul food occasionally – me, I can get CRAZY for collard greens and just gotta have ’em sometimes, so I will be back at that place, and heaven help NOI ladies if I see them again together enjoying a huge platter of barbecued ribs!

I promise if I do that, armed with appropriate Elijah Mohammed No Pork Ever Reference I’ll march right over to their table and slam their ethics in RUTHLESSLY.

I promise, Alcoboy.

It’ll be worth making a scene and getting thrown out of one of my favorite restaurants to know that once more I’ve done my little bit to Get Ethics In On The Planet.

As a Bitter Defrocked Apostate now, an Undeclared SP relegated as I am to the Fringes of the Internet, my opportunities to get ethics in on others have been so few. My Ethics Presence is no more, and frankly, I kind of miss being a total asshole, you know?

All of those people look less than thrilled with the photo ops. They seem to be thinking “where is the closest garbage can?” At least the one guy in India who is foisting the stuff on people has more than one suit.

When I was in India I was amazed at the efficiency of the “trash & recycling” efforts. As fas as I could see there was very little official garbage service and I never saw a recycling bin but this was happening naturally because of the various levels of poverty. If something was discarded, it was found and used by someone else. If that person found the item worthless, it was discarded and acquired by someone of lesser means and they found a use for it. This happened until there was virtually very little left and at that point animals in the streets would have at it if it was some sort of food item.

I’m not sure what would happen if scientology printed material ended up in the bins. My first thought was toilet paper (like Sears catalogs were used in the US & Canada back in the outhouse era) but Indians use squat toilets and no toilet paper. They are a very ingenious people driven by the necessities of poverty so I’m sure that the cult materials will be put to some use other than causing more suffering by being read.

“Less than thrilled” is understatement. Lol. I’m falling on the floor from laugh. Gosh… They need the Trash Cans ASAP like yesterday. Like getting an emergency paramedic ASAP to resolve their embarrassed of pretended agreemennt. Get help over here PRONTO!!! Lol.

I clicked on this and got a message from Google: “There was a problem with this website, blah, blah.” – which makes me thing scientology has gotten to Google one or another: threats, intimidation, or indirect bribes.

I think there’s a reason Miscavige stays out of India: other cults are way bigger than Scientology and quite a few of them have a lot more money.

Scientology has something like 25,000 members (and staff) worldwide. One group in India called Dera Sacha Sauda has several million members in India. They have dozens of “orgs” throughout the country, and their land holdings put Scientology’s empire to shame. It’s estimated that they have up to $10 billion in cash, an amount that dwarfs the Int Reserves, which I estimate are no more than $1.5 billion.

Another group, headed by Guru Ramdev, is the leading vendor of natural products in India, with several billion dollars in annual sales. That operation is bigger in India than the global consumer product empires like Unilever or Procter & Gamble. And they’re successful at selling to “wogs” in a way that Miscavige can’t hope to repeat.

Most of the Indian cults are extremely well dialed in to the government, which shields them from excessive interference. Some have been advisers to various Indian prime ministers over the years. However, with some ridiculous blasphemy laws on the books, anyone whose religious fee-fees are hurt by Scientology’s teachings can tie them up in knots in court for years and the courts will likely side with them. They’ll never be able to “safepoint” the Indian government at the level these other groups have done for decades and they’re liable to be tossed out on their ears. It’ll be a major embarrassment and very expensive.

My gosh, your comments are so rich in understanding, thankyou again, for all your years of observations, very much appreciated!

What Scientology’s done and still doing is just what’s been human patterns for long time by other similar groups, and whether Hubbard learned from them, or Hubbard just stumbled into the same “logical” “handlings” for Hubbard’s Scientology organizations, it seems to me in hindsight, that Hubbard could have just been following others’ logical patterns similarly all through history.

Which is why I’d have hoped, my ex members delusional wish always was, to finally get out and read some blistering excellent historical sociological take-down of all such groups in human history, and what’s already been society’s response.

Such dismal long drawn out patterns which as a dupe once thoroughly caught up in Scientology’s full mess (organizationally is where I dupe-hopefully wished “we” Scientology were doing good despite all the glaring Hubbard paranoid megalomania).

A born again flaming red headed Indian deity that smoked Kools and rode motorbikes just doesn’t seem right. But who am I to judge some God by the color of their hair? But we got the fatso bit right hey? mmmm… the “Hymn of Asia”, that doesn’t seem a right set of words either… like trying to fathom a book called ‘The Sympathies of the KKK.’ Confusing all these squirrelisms isn’t it?

Aw come on OSD, India is where a lot of the click farms are. As long as scientology pays the click farmers for the “privilege” of clicking on their sites, scientology will pretend to have a presence in India.

Oh I don’t know… They might get a kick out of Thursday funnies! Out of all those Indian newspapers and internet users, surely one or two of them will eventually work out an angle their readers might appreciate if Scientology invades. True story this, but once I was involved with trying to source some art work duplication opportunities and the Chinese guy we used as an interpreter informed us of a simple philosophy that we must either accept or overcome in dealing with that culture. And that was the term, “silly white man.” I’m sure the Indian business people are similar & will probably get a chuckle or two (or the horrors) about Scientology being pitched to them as a religion. The fact Scientology has a despicable history and no Orgs anywhere in the world are prospering will not go unnoticed by the Indian people that really matter.
Another aspect of inter-cultural business per my meager experience is that going through official channels, embassies, trade commissions, opinion leaders etc sure costs if you proceed though them and it exposes you to all sorts of rules & lawyer based stuff you didn’t even know existed. It takes nothing for them to have your business (or civil) history, dealings etc investigated and understood in an instant. They are not silly people, very polite but they are all business, often completely self serving like most politicians. Being a player at that level… sheesh, you gotta know your stuff and be prepared to experience “the real world.” No wonder Scientology has never set up shop there. This is just a ploy to squeeze a few more dollars out of their gullible but exhausted followers. After all, the magical properties of the only tek of life needs to be reassured at every opportunity. Words and books are all they have, results using Hubbard’s puke speaks for itself.

Apparently, there is only one lone scientologist doing ALL the disseminating in India. What a busy boy! And I guess no one in India has a name; “a 2018 beauty queen”, “a member of parliament”, “a religious leader”.

You’re being a cultural bigot here Newcomer. You should be a bit more cautious when mentioning a ‘casting call’ in reference to Indians. We all saw the butt hurt that Michael Chan has endured because of this blog. I think it’s high time we all sign up for some sensitivity training.

I wouldn’t generally include beauty queens among opinion leaders. They are entertaining, and say a lot of dumb things under pressure, but I don’t follow their opinions.

(No offense meant to any beauty queens. Generally they can be pretty smart, they just get a lot of publicity when they say something dumb under pressure. If I got that much attention for every dumb thing I said, I’d be queen of YouTube.)

You’re a man of the world Chuck. When I see hysterical crowds, especially in 3rd world countries, burning effigies and getting all worked into a lather about something I cringe. That’s when arms dealers, corrupt politicians, military opportunists & religious zealots start salivating. When it’s closer to home we seem to invade countries our political system deem are in need of our way of life. Part of human nature it seems could be thought about percentage wise that a certain amount of gullible idiots will always walk amongst us. We all have our own personal idiosyncrasies, foibles etc. Scientology uses & relies on them and no lie is too outrageous if it can be defended constitutionally or in court by immoral lawyers or simply overwhelmed with the arrogance that comes with the power of vast amounts of untouchable religious money. Scientology and cults like it could be likened to as the acne of the human condition.

Spot on, I Yawnalot, unfortunately so. The human condition will always be seeking out some fix. The beat goes on.

The tactics scn uses have given me ghastly, body-shuddering visions of dm and any number of the save-our- ass attorney team brainstorming on how to fix the latest situation. Our hopes lie in reducing the viral count. Like HIV, it can be managed now, to keep the count down.

Important Quotes

If the org slumps during this transition period, don't engage in "fund raising"
or "selling postcards" or borrowing money. Just make more income with Scientology.
L Ron Hubbard From HCOPL URGENT ORG PROGRAMMING

"We own a tremendous amount of property. We own a tremendous amount of material and so forth, and it keeps growing.
But that’s not important. When buildings get important to us, for God sakes, some of you born revolutionists will you please blow up central headquarters".
L Ron Hubbard Lecture 31 Dec 1960

"Personal integrity is knowing what you know. What you know is what you know and to have the courage to know and say what you have observed".- LRH from Personal Integrity

"It is necessary to happiness of man, that he be mentally faithful to himself. Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists of professing to believe what he does not believe." Thomas Paine

“Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.” - Martin Luther King

“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.” - Martin Luther King

“There comes a time when silence is betrayal.” - Martin Luther King Jr.

“Communication is the universal solvent” - L Ron Hubbard

“When men yield up the privilege of thinking, the last shadow of liberty quits the horizon.” Thomas Paine

"Never be afraid to raise your voice for honesty and truth and compassion against injustice and lying and greed. If people all over the world would do this, it would change the earth." William Faulkner

"The ultimate authority must always rest with the individual's own reason and critical analysis." Dalai Lama