Recent debate over contraception comes as GOP loses gains among women

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One of two groups the GOP really needs if they want to win the presidency and hold their majority in the House. Seems they are driving that group away. Evan Rick Santorum's wife is telling him to quiet down.

The fragile gains Republicans had been making among female voters have been erased, a shift that has coincided with what has become a national shouting match over reproductive issues, potentially handing President Obama and the Democrats an enormous advantage this fall.

In the 2010 congressional midterm elections, Republican candidates ran evenly with Democrats among women, a break with long-established trends. That was a major reason the GOP regained control of the House.

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You know what CTB? When I head for the polls in a few days, I'll be voting for Santorum in spite of his views on birth control? Why? Obama is threatening my religious rights. Romney will make a bigger mess of the economy than we already have. Eye of Newt is a good example of a Washington fat cat. Ron Paul will ruin US foriegn relations. All that is left is Santorum and his stinky views on birth control. Views that won't amount to a hill of beans when set against the culture of Washington. But perhaps he will repair some of the stuff Obama has pulled with health care and we have a chance that he won't drag the economy down farther with another endless war in the Middle East and more deregulation of business that got us into this mess to begin with. (eventually we are going to deregulate ourselves right back into a depression)

If Santorum doesn't win the Republican nomination you can expect 4 more years of Obama.

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You know what CTB? When I head for the polls in a few days, I'll be voting for Santorum in spite of his views on birth control? Why? Obama is threatening my religious rights. Romney will make a bigger mess of the economy than we already have. Eye of Newt is a good example of a Washington fat cat. Ron Paul will ruin US foriegn relations. All that is left is Santorum and his stinky views on birth control. Views that won't amount to a hill of beans when set against the culture of Washington. But perhaps he will repair some of the stuff Obama has pulled with health care and we have a chance that he won't drag the economy down farther with another endless war in the Middle East and more deregulation of business that got us into this mess to begin with. (eventually we are going to deregulate ourselves right back into a depression)

If Santorum doesn't win the Republican nomination you can expect 4 more years of Obama.

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I will defend your right to vote for the candidate of your choice.

I put the OP up merely for information. There is a long time to go before the election and much can happen. But if the GOP really wants to win they need to become more friendly to women and Hispanics. It is fairly probably the GOP will loose Arizona in the presidential election. Just friendly advice.

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So why are you choosing contraception and not abortion or gender reassignment as covered under your ideal system?

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Because I'm pro-contraception and anti-elective abortion. I'm also against gender reassignment surgery but I don't get fired up over it like I do with abortion so I'm not really all that concerned about whether it's covered.

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Because I'm pro-contraception and anti-elective abortion. I'm also against gender reassignment surgery but I don't get fired up over it like I do with abortion so I'm not really all that concerned about whether it's covered.

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And if Obama decided that abortion and gender reassignment were required to be covered by health insurance and that your church was required to provide that coverage to all of it's employees?

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I wouldn't like it. However, that's not what's going on. Furthermore, in my health care plan, the employer wouldn't provide coverage for anything.

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How do you know that would not happen?

Imagine it were to happen so that you can understand how those who are opposed to contraception on a moral basis - such as the Catholic Church - feel about what the government is unconstitutionally forcing them to do.

How would you feel if Obama were to decide that health insurance must cover abortion and that your church must provide it to their employees?

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Because I'm pro-contraception and anti-elective abortion. I'm also against gender reassignment surgery but I don't get fired up over it like I do with abortion so I'm not really all that concerned about whether it's covered.

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Well, if you're pro-contraception then you might be guilty of using an abortifacient. Life begins at conception and if you willingly use a drug that can abort a fertilized egg, then you are violating your own conscience. Ultimately, that's not the real issue... it's using birth control to circumvent the will of God.

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It appears this thread may have been the equivalent of spiking a football before the touchdown is scored. The truth is, Obama's polling numbers are down since this episode.

Democrats have been patting themselves on the back for the last month as they battled in the Republicans’ “war on women.” But according to the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll, President Obama’s approval among women is faring worse today than before Sandra Fluke burst onto the scene:

During the first few days of February, about a week before Obama declared a so-called “accommodation” to the contraception/abortifacient mandate, a Washington Post/ABC poll showed Obama’s approval rating at 50 percent, with 46 percent of Americans disapproving.

Then, from March 7 to 10–a week into the national media firestorm surrounding Rush Limbaugh’s degrading remarks about Georgetown Law student and liberal activist Sandra Fluke–Washington Post/ABC conducted another poll. It found Obama’s approval rating at 46 percent, down four points from February, and his disapproval rating at 50 percent, up four points from February.'''

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