All of this is very high-level, complicated physics, and there's no guarantee we're going to get answers. Even if it's too soon to say for sure whether the brain is a quantum computer or not though, the planned research should reveal much more about how this most complicated of organs works.

"We will explore neuronal function with state-of-the-art technology from completely new angles and with enormous potential for discovery," says one of the team, Tobias Fromme from the Technical University of Munich in Germany.

ever wonder what kind of game would you play, if
you are omniscient, you are all powerful to change anything and everything,

is there any game worth playing for such being?

Yeah. Create some worlds or minions and observe their behavior.

You have the ability to be omniscient yourself with certain things: for example, you can know what each byte in your application is (use a debugger and halt it) at any given time. You're like God to the application. Obviously, it's tedious to look at it that way, but you can have omniscience.

Omniscience can mean you have the potential to know everything you want of a system IMO. Not that you know everything at one time even if you don't want to.

The other definition makes no sense to me, because it means you also know what you want, which is an infinite feedback loop because it means you will know your entire future infinitely at one given point. So I don't think someone can be omniscient for himself, even in theory.

in order to become elite and someone with power, you went through some horror cult practices, videoed, so you could never go against those who raised you, it sounds logical except the part, you got to do something demonic that if exposed, will bring you down automatically,

Omniscience can mean you have the potential to know everything you want of a system IMO. Not that you know everything at one time even if you don't want to.

The other definition makes no sense to me, because it means you also know what you want, which is an infinite feedback loop because it means you will know your entire future infinitely at one given point. So I don't think someone can be omniscient for himself, even in theory.

But if you know everything all at once instead of just having the potential to do that, then it means you know your entire future.

Every tiny moment of your future also knows your entire past & future, so you know that you know that you know that.... at every moment. Yeah, infinite feedback loop. Which is why I find it a completely useless definition.

Remember: even if, let's say, Google knew absolutely everything digital, in terms of ALL computers in the world (magic), it would still not be omniscient in your definition.

Because it doesn't know everything at all, even in that scenario. Instead, it has the potential to know everything it wants. When you do a search, it asks its servers and they retrieve that information from somewhere. This is potential omniscience, not your omniscient definition, because it doesn't know it all at once (which is an impossibility even in theory), it has to retrieve it when asked or wants to.

The Google thing was just an example, like I said, just assume it's magic where it pulls that info from.

If you can ask Google something and it gives you the answer, always, then you can say "Google knows everything" aka is omniscient. Even though it has to "look it up" (i.e. it has the potential to know everything, when asked).

There is a distinction between:
* inherent omniscience, the ability to know anything that one chooses to know and can be known.
* total omniscience, actually knowing everything that can be known.

Like I said before, the second one makes no sense -- even in theory. It's just not possible, even with stuff like magic (i.e. disregarding the laws of physics or anything really).

If the universe is finite, and exists for a finite time, then, in theory, a suitably advanced god, or a being with a suitably large memory capacity and compute ability, could know everything including the past and future of the entire universe.

That would mean that the being (or whatever it is) would necessarily be much larger than the universe. Which implies that to retrieve a particular memory it might take more time than the universe exists. Simply because of the limit of the speed of light c.

Actually making sense of the information would also be quite a feat. Simply knowing the positions and trajectories of all sub-atomic particles wouldn't give you much insight into an individuals thoughts unless you analysed the whole ensemble of particles over a length of time.

Well, how is that different than the Google example I gave? It's exactly the same thing. It's just potential omniscience.

sleepsleep's definition doesn't "look up" information, like say, what will happen 5 seconds from now? It knows at every instant in time everything, which is bullshit in my opinion. "Looking up" that info, like your case, is potential omniscience. It can look up if it wants to, so it's potentially omniscient, but it doesn't know everything at every moment.

For example, Google can look up into a database and find the answer of what will happen in 5 seconds from now.

But how is that different than, say, a "human" looking up what will happen to his simulation in 5 seconds by making a snapshot of his simulation and analyzing it, or waiting to see what happens in 5 seconds then reverting the snapshot so that things are back the way they were except now he has that knowledge?

It's the exact same thing, just that Google does it automatically, doesn't make it any different, they're still computers in the end. At the physical level, the processes are the same (but Google is more efficient than a human obviously).

I guess it depends upon how you interpret "know". If I store information in a database, does it now "know" all of the information I put there? Or do I have to make a program to look up pieces of information before I can say it "knows" the answer?

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