Friday, October 1, 2010

Child Bride Horrors Last a Lifetime

Qur’an 21:107—We sent thee not, but as a Mercy for all creatures.

I. QUR’AN ON SEX WITH PREPUBESCENT GIRLS

Qur’an 65:4 (Shakir)—And (as for) those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, if you have a doubt, their prescribed time shall be three months, and of those too who have not had their courses; and (as for) the pregnant women, their prescribed time is that they lay down their burden; and whoever is careful of (his duty to) Allah He will make easy for him his affair.

Qur’an 65:4 (Hilali-Khan)—And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubts (about their periods), is three months, and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise, except in case of death] . And for those who are pregnant (whether they are divorced or their husbands are dead), their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is until they deliver (their burdens), and whosoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make his matter easy for him.

Qur’an 33:49 (Hilali-Khan)—O you who believe! When you marry believing women, and then divorce them before you have sexual intercourse with them, no 'Iddah [divorce prescribed period, see (V.65:4)] have you to count in respect of them. So give them a present, and set them free i.e. divorce, in a handsome manner.

II. COMMENTARY ON 65:4

Tafsir Ibn Kathir (on Qur’an 65:4)—Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. [see 2:228] The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation. Their `Iddah is three months like those in menopause.

Tafsir al-Jalalayn (on Qur’an 65:4)—And [as for] those of your women who (read allà'ï or allà'i in both instances) no longer expect to menstruate, if you have any doubts, about their waiting period, their prescribed [waiting] period shall be three months, and [also for] those who have not yet menstruated, because of their young age, their period shall [also] be three months.

Tafsir Ibn Abbas (on Qur’an 65:4)—(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation) because of old age, (if ye doubt) about their waiting period, (their period (of waiting) shall be three months) upon which another man asked: "O Messenger of Allah! What about the waiting period of those who do not have menstruation because they are too young?" (along with those who have it not) because of young age, their waiting period is three months.

Maududi, Tafhim al-Qur'an (on Qur’an 65:4)—Here, one should bear in mind the fact that according to the explanations given in the Quran the question of the waiting period arises in respect of the women with whom marriage may have been consummated, for there is no waiting-period in case divorce is pronounced before the consummation of marriage. (Al-Ahzab: 49). Therefore, making mention of the waiting-period for the girls who have not yet menstruated, clearly proves that it is not only permissible to give away the girl in marriage at this age but it is also permissible for the husband to consummate marriage with her. Now, obviously no Muslim has the right to forbid a thing which the Quran has held as permissible.

III. HADITH ON MUHAMMAD’S RELATIONSHIP WITH AISHA

Sahih al-Bukhari 3895—“. . . and he consummated that marriage when she was nine years old.”

Sahih al-Bukhari 5133—“. . . and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old.”

Sahih Muslim 3309—“. . . and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine.”

Sahih Muslim 3311—“ . . . and she was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her . . .”

Sunan Abu Dawud 2116—“Aisha said: . . . He had intercourse with me when I was nine years old.”

Sahih al-Bukhari 6130—“Narrated Aishah: ‘I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet’ . . . The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty. (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13).”

Sahih al-Bukhari 5236—“Narrated Aishah: The Prophet was screening me with his Rida . . . So you may deduce from this event how a little girl (who has not reached the age of puberty) . . . should be treated in this respect.”

Narrated Sahl bin Sad: While we were sitting in the company of the Prophet a woman came to him and presented herself (for marriage) to him. The Prophet looked at her, lowering his eyes and raising them, but did not give a reply. One of his companions said, "Marry her to me O Allah's Apostle!" The Prophet asked (him), "Have you got anything?" He said, "I have got nothing." The Prophet said, "Not even an iron ring?" He Sad, "Not even an iron ring, but I will tear my garment into two halves and give her one half and keep the other half." The Prophet; said, "No. Do you know some of the Quran (by heart)?" He said, "Yes." The Prophet said, "Go, I have agreed to marry her to you with what you know of the Qur'an (as her Mahr)." 'And for those who have no courses (i.e. they are still immature). (65.4) And the 'Iddat for the girl before puberty is three months (in the above Verse).

On a positive note: The girl is gorgeous! absolutely stunning!!! Now if u can just take that hijab off of her then she can be a bomb shell!!

Very courageous of her.....but im a little concerned: Will not the police and family go after her n try to kill her. even worse she has exposed herself on TV!....I have a feeling the outcome will not be pretty.

I just have to say it again she is beyond beautiful....i dont find a lot of women in hijab to be beautiful but she's an exception.

Praise God for that young lady's strength! May God bless and protect her, and all of those unfortunate children. I pray that, one day, they will find Christ. Then, they will truly have the hope that they need!

Fatman where are you? I went round to your house and your mom said you left in a hurry to go to the middle east somewhere. She said you took $400 with you and said youd be back in a week maybe 10 days.

I am always surprised why was allah always worried about mohammad's sex life. And i am more amazed the way muslims accept it as if it is of no importance. They keep on explaining these events with their logic where as the truth is sour:: a 6 or 9 yr old girl was married to 53 yrs old man and this laid foundations of this curse. If muslims follow mohammad in this aspect then why would they not follow his other commands like fight and kill.

I see here everything Muhammad wanted in a female; fresh, very young and pretty.

What the younglings 'problem' was, is that her conscience told her this can't be right. Even Aisha knew this. What is particularly disturbing is how Allah sanctioned this in the first place and Muhammad was ok with such conduct. Abu Wakr objected to his proposed marriage to Aisha initially. Perhaps short-lived gain and the promise of more in Jannah (covetous), persuaded him it wasn't such a bad deal. After all, he would get his name up in lights for all Islamic history. If only Abu Lahab had bowed to his nephews ego he too would have seen his name glittering across the scene of Islamic history. Everything the carnal 'animal nature' wants, to dominate emotionally and physically. It's even more obvious to me Muhammad's idea of Paradise was what his carnal lusts longed for. It gets even worse when one studies God and Allah. God says covetousness is wrong. Allah says, it's right. What every red bloodied Muslim man longs for - debauchery - and is denied down here, he is promised in Jannah.I wonder how they'll get around the issue of Janabah!

I was reflecting on the BARKER-LICONA debate on the resurrection of Jesus.Truly BARKER is NO scholar,he is similar to SHABIR ALLY in his inconsistency.He made a reference to the JESUS SEMINAR.I have been studying their methodology.He said that,in essence "they were Christian scholars,with doctorates,specialists in their field,,who knew the languages,the culture, who had analyzed the evidence and concluded that Jesus had NOT resurrected."

JESUS SEMINARIt was founded by ROBERT FUNK(ex-evangelical) and JOHN DOMINIC CROSSAN(ex-priest).It has among its 60 members ROBERT PRICE(who doubts Jesus existed,though he is not dogmatic about it) and MARCUS BORG.

THEIR METHODOLOGY

Those who use FORM CRITICISM,then the later method called REDACTION CRITICISM,both used by the Jesus Seminar,begin with the PRESUPPOSITION that the SUPERNATURAL is IMPOSSIBLE,it can never happen.

So of course it was a foregone conclusion that the Jesus Seminar would reject the resurrection.That shows either lack of knowledge by Barker or worse.

SHABIR ALLY

In his debates he talks of how NT scholars have shown or concluded that the gospels have interpolations,inventions,evolutions.He does not say it but he refers to form and redaction criticism and their presupposition that the miraculous never happens. So of cource the virgin birth,miracles by Jesus,resurrection,prophecies by Jesus,even his claiming to be God,never happened or were never said by the historical Jesus,"the Jesus of history,not the Jesus of faith".Shabir Ally does not apply the same presupposition,form and redaction criticism to the Coran

father pulls out his dagger and says, "if you don't go into the judge and agree to get married I will cut you in half".

And the supposed imam is sitting there with a great dagger hanging out his belt, shows which religeon he supports (murdering cult of islam).Lets hope no aid money goes to such a barbaric tribal stanic country.

Due to this and that I have been posting a bit on Mary Jo's blog.I mentioned why I believed Aysha was 9 when the marriage was consummated.Ehteshaam replied that Mary was 12-14 according to scholars and that to be consistent I should have mentioned it.

I was very surprised,first because I remember that BEFORE(it is or was written in his website)he held that she was OLDER,I think about 17.So he has changed to a different view.I replied:

"Hello Ehteshaam:I was not being inconsistent since 9 and 12-14 are not the same.On top of that we do not know the age Mary had when she gave birth to Jesus.It is true that a girl could marry at 13 BUT we also know:1.She had to wait ONE year with no intimacy and living with her parents,even if she was married.

2.The Jews then had the DOWRY custom.The man who wanted to marry a girl HAD to give a DOWRY,otherwise he could not marry.

3.In the case of JOSEPH he is called a TEKTON in the gospels.That is a LANDLESS LABORER,he was no farmer,had no land,so was poorer than one but slightly above a slave.

He would have had to work for years to accumulate a dowry,or he could have married Mary BUT promising to accumulate the dowry,in which time she would have stayed with her parents for years.

In short we do not know her age.But with Aysha there is a specific age given.

NAZARETH

Then it had 120 people,probably all related.MAREK HALTER,a famous Jewish writer born in Poland,but who lives in France,and writes in French,in 2006 wrote MARIE(Mary).

He made a thorough investigation for his novel and says Nazareth had only 100 people.His novel is striking:

1.There Mary becomes the FRIEND of BARABBAS(yes,the one who was released).

2.At the end of the novel Marek Halter says he went to Warsaw and there an old woman gives him a "Gospel of Mary",supposedly written by she herself.

3.Reading it it says that Jesus did NOT die on the cross but survived.He was given a drug by Joseph of Arimathea that left him unconscious for 3 days.A novelist's flight of fancy:

Written in 125-150 AD it has many errors about Jewish customs and so we know it was not written by a Jew.Scholars do not give it much credit.It says Mary was 12 and Joseph was 90 when they got married.Why 90 for Joseph?The reason is THEOLOGICAL,at 90 Joseph would have been IMPOTENT and the author was promoting the view of the PERPETUAL virginity of Mary,she never had children,though Mark mentions her children.

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