I find this particular argument rather comical, probably because I have a warped sense of humor. In my opinion, censoring/limiting internet access
would be about the only thing that would get the apathetic masses off their asses. Even if you only take the internet generation into consideration,
people who can't even remember a time when there was no internet. I can't imagine all would just lay down and allow it to happen, silently, without
question or fight. Honestly, I see *this* as a huge SHTF scenario, because it would get ugly, without a doubt. Strip people of their guns and/or
internet, and you have a revolution in the making.
My opinion, take it or leave it.

Well said, you just backed up my previous comment

Censoring and removing our rights of freedom will the worst thing they could do. If anyone needs to start listening, it's the corrupt officials.

I respect your opinion. My opinion is that net censorship would not create anything revolutionary as long as the restrictions are not too harsh.
Porn, Facebook, sites like Hulu, sports, fantasy sports, on-line games, as someone mentioned ways to pirate, etc... will still exist. I think enough
will be left uncensored to appease the masses. At least here in the U.S. and they'll sensationalize through news something similar to "if you are
really worried about that site you use you probably should not be going to it anyway" and "well if you aren't doing anything illegal here you should
be able to do it at this gov't approved site" type deal. Plus older generations more than likely aren't going to be of any help and look how easy MSM
can manipulate those demographics to the government's will, anyway.

I respect your opinion. My opinion is that net censorship would not create anything revolutionary as long as the restrictions are not too harsh.
Porn, Facebook, sites like Hulu, sports, fantasy sports, on-line games, as someone mentioned ways to pirate, etc... will still exist. I think enough
will be left uncensored to appease the masses. At least here in the U.S. and they'll sensationalize through news something similar to "if you are
really worried about that site you use you probably should not be going to it anyway" and "well if you aren't doing anything illegal here you
should be able to do it at this gov't approved site" type deal. Plus older generations more than likely aren't going to be of any help and look
how easy channels like Fox can manipulate that demographic.

So another way of saying it is... Since we're going to get restricted, we may as well double our efforts and start taking down bigger and nastier
corporations until the plug gets pulled?

If that's how you want to look at it. Just as long as anonymous also owns up to harming innocents in the process instead of acting like the internet
saviors they aren't.

On that basis, the corporations and governments should also start owning up to the innocents they have harmed, killed, poisoned, blown up, maimed,
cheated, wrecked, raped, executed, imprisoned, and pillaged.

If you want to show your support or even partake in any anonymous activities, I strongly advise you to take a few hours and educate yourself
on how to keep yourself as anonymous as possible while online. It is not hard at all for a group as technologically advanced as our government to
track you down and kick in your door within minutes of locating you. Be smart about this, please.

This is not to be understated, Anonymous exists because of anonymity, but let's be clear, Anonymous is not just a group of hackers (Anonymous would
not exist without them though)

It is not illegal to be anonymous, but as Perplexity has pointed out, take steps to protect your anonymity.

Even if you never engage in anything less than legal, your anonymity is not only smart but unfortunately necessary to your everyday internet life,
many freeware programs exist for you to protect yourself and your identity, things like TOR, do your research not for Anonymous but for your own
privacy.

Originally posted by wolfwood290
I just checked the Monsanto website. It is up and running. Did anyone check the site yesterday to confirm that Anonymous actually operates on actions
rather than words?

edit on 3/7/11 by wolfwood290 because: (no reason given)

You need to jump in a timemachine and go back to June 9th-11th to see that their site was down due to the DDoS.

Anonymous is just another cut out created by the Government. Much like alCIAda, but with a different purpose. Another useless endeavor that get People
to commit their energy to.

I'm not sure how a ubiquitous idea that motivates people to take action however way they can could be considered a "useless endeavor for people to
commit their energy to." Anonymous is a framework that directly goes against the principles of centralization, representation, and thus,
accountability and thus, Government. Unlike a Government structure that is effective by organizing intent, Anonymous is chaos. Notice that it asks
for nothing....and it gives nothing in return... the results are of the collective action taken by those who share it's idea.

Like it or not, the moment you refrain from disclosing information about yourself, the moment you chose to hold close the very principles that define
you for fear that someone stronger will try to take them away, use them against you, or manipulate others against you....you will become Anonymous.

And exactly how is a virtual attack on monsanto going to do anything ??? We dont eat megabytes and their crops are still growing in fields and their
offices,laboratories,1000s of acres of frankin crops cannot be sabotaged by online attacks,thinking this has made a diffrence is really silly.

How could I forget. They also fight to save/protect teh cats, bring down Scientology (religiously tolerant much?), keep whitey from Habbo Hotel's
lido, raid Facebook memorial pages, pay tribute to a fallen teen who lost his iPod, and crush any female (cause remember anon insists they should
never leave the kitchen) whose nudes happen to get leaked (i.e. butthurt neckbeards).

How could I forget. They also fight to save/protect teh cats, bring down Scientology (religiously tolerant much?), keep whitey from Habbo Hotel's
lido, raid Facebook memorial pages, pay tribute to a fallen teen who lost his iPod, and crush any female (cause remember anon insists they should
never leave the kitchen) whose nudes happen to get leaked (i.e. butthurt neckbeards).

Please reply "pic related" again

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edit on 3-7-2011 by AlexKintner because: triforce

Otay, pankey!

Bait much? But teh cats r not biting. Rawr.

Back on topic.

As you have pointed out in a round about way, Anonymous is not restricted to one idea or meme, Anonymous is everyone and no one.

The collective has become more focused and have put their leet skillz towards an attempt to bring attention to the power brokers that attempt to
control my brothers.

So in the words of Jules played by Sam Jackson reciting Ezekiel:

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name
of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost
children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will
know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.

Originally posted by Grey Magic
pfff just taking down websites with ddos is useless, even helps to improve their security on their website.

what have they really achieved so far?

What this has achieved is made people stop and think for a second. When even protesting an issuse is almost completely imposibly anymore in your
country, the internet remains the only safe haven for doing so. If just one person at monsonto stopped just for a moment to look into why someone
would do this to their precious company then its done a whole lot more than u realize. Is it sad its come down to hacking to get a message across? Of
course it is...but anonymous certainly didn't just wake up one morning and randomly decide to do this..events lead up to it

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