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(I'd link to my lolmatches but apparently it's not running at startup despite settings to the contrary. Neat!)

I did win about half of my games but that was playing against a heimer that mysteriously went aspd/on-hit build and a team with an afker - those that put up about as much fight as a wet piece of tissue paper. Sooooo... I feel like I'm not really getting how to do it.

I tried to build somewhat defensively and force a duel as everyone I was up against could outrange/outpush me. (And I learned the value of rushing a phage against anyone who tries to kite you )

I appreciate the advice everyone, I will now sit here and feel bad for never remembering that lantern is now a thing.

I used to play a lot of Jax...then I stopped once I realized I was winning for playing Jax instead of being a good player. But that might be different now with all the new changes. Although, Wukong is now my bruiser of choice because people don't know how to counter stealth champions at my elo yet. Which is a ton of fun. HUE HUE HUE

But I digress.

I talked to a high-elo Dominion player to give me some advice for my Wukong build. I keep his build suggestions on a "post it" that I keep on my desk. So, yeah...I would suggest doing that so you won't forget. Not saying you have a bad memory or anything. It's just I tend to remember everything outside of a game but forget everything during the game.

Vayne wins till about 10-12 minutes. Play defensive and get help, then once you have some sort of slow (FF slow OP) just go balls deep and dunk her. The mindgame is something like this:

* Jump on her, she can condemn or not condemn
* If she condemns you away, wait for jump CD (you are maxing it second, right?) and jump on her w/ stun and kill her while condemn is down
* If not, force a favorable trade
* Repeat till vayne dies

Make sure you're getting Ninja Tabi, Warden's Mail, and Frozen Fist. Cheap items which only 1100 gold of which get in the way of your damage, and put you >200 armor.

While I dont play jax, I do play a lot of botlane. So heres some general opening advice. Against singed you really need to just focus on sustain. Id suggest starting with: boots, vamp, crystaline flask (3 charge per b potions). Thats exactly your starting gold on dom. After mercs, next get a second vamp scepter, then itll be time for iether catalyst or negatron cloak.

By the time hes got BFT + upgraded boots, you should be able to have: vamp x2, mercs, and odin's veil. Skip over sheen/triforce, its just not a sustain item. The longgame goals should be: hextech gunblade, sanguin, odins viel (or abyssal scepter to be aggressive). And an attack speed item or two (wits end, zephyr, or even kiteas isnt unreasonable if hes going heavy hp).

By the time hes got BFT + upgraded boots, you should be able to have: vamp x2, mercs, and odin's veil. Skip over sheen/triforce, its just not a sustain item. The longgame goals should be: hextech gunblade, sanguin, odins viel (or abyssal scepter to be aggressive). And an attack speed item or two (wits end, zephyr, or even kiteas isnt unreasonable if hes going heavy hp).

Uhh, that totals about 5460, which is a vamp and a half higher than the cost of BFT+sorcs/mercs/w.e....

Yes, sorry. Singed typically doesnt start boots->BFT; his starting build Typically will include a Catalyst or prospector ring. So I should have said "by the time singed has his upped boots, cata/prospect, and finished torch..."

This is the one I had the most trouble with cause she gets bonus movespeed to chase your ass down - there's no backing off without running to the far side of the tower.

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Make sure you're getting Ninja Tabi, Warden's Mail, and Frozen Fist. Cheap items which only 1100 gold of which get in the way of your damage, and put you >200 armor.

Hm... So probably super early Grez to counter the stealth, tabi, bruta, WM and Icepuncher. Now to hope I'll get matched against a Vayne *never* so I can try it again. xP

(I need to remember to get sheen earlier as well, since that burst is retarded.)

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By the time hes got BFT + upgraded boots, you should be able to have: vamp x2, mercs, and odin's veil. Skip over sheen/triforce, its just not a sustain item. The longgame goals should be: hextech gunblade, sanguin, odins viel (or abyssal scepter to be aggressive). And an attack speed item or two (wits end, zephyr, or even kiteas isnt unreasonable if hes going heavy hp).