Very Young Composer Milo Poniewozik joins assistant conductor Joshua Weilerstein at the head of the New York Philharmonic. As part of the orchestra's School Day Concerts, Milo's piece was performed in front of more than 2,000 kids.

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What would it be like if you were 10 years old and composed a piece of music that was played by the New York Philharmonic? For a few New York City school kids, including one fifth-grader, it's a dream come true, thanks to the orchestra's Very Young Composers program.

Composer Jon Deak, who played bass with the New York Philharmonic for more than 40 years, says the idea for Very Young Composers came when he and conductor Marin Alsop visited an elementary school in Brooklyn several years ago.

"As we were going in, I saw all the children's art on the walls, which was so superior," Deak says. "I said, 'That's it, Marin! We've got to get kids to compose music on the level of this art right here, because look: Doesn't that look like a Picasso? Doesn't that look like a Paul Klee?'"

So Deak set about getting the musical equivalents of paints, paintbrushes and canvas for children in elementary schools that partner with the New York Philharmonic. Each year, 72 lucky kids in six New York area schools participate in this free after-school program.

Theodore Wiprud is the Philharmonic's director of education and also a composer himself.

"The kids are not chosen for being musical geniuses," Wiprud says. "The guidelines we give the schools, in trying to identify some fourth- and fifth-graders for the program, is that they be kids for whom this could make a difference. Whether or not they study an instrument is not necessarily a good predictor of whether they're going to do something creative in music."

Elements Of Composition

On a Tuesday afternoon in January, 12 kids have gathered in music teacher Paul Trust's classroom at P.S. 39 in Park Slope, Brooklyn, to start their musical journey. Teaching artist and composer Daniel Felsenfeld begins by getting them in sync with the rhythms he's clapping.

Over the next 12 weeks, each of these kids will learn some of the rudimentary elements of composition — a little bit about musical notation and a little bit about the instruments of the orchestra — through classroom demonstrations. Cellist Rose Bellini demonstrates all kinds of cool effects she can do on her instrument.

Deak says the central idea of the Very Young Composers program is to tap into the kids' creative spirit without getting in the way.

"Some of these kids have trouble locating middle C on a piano," Deak says. "Does that mean they can't compose music of depth? No. What do they have to do? They have to hum it for us, sing, whistle, tap the rhythms — even if they can't notate them — and we get their piece."

As Felsenfeld puts it, "The most important thing about this class is that you never, ever, ever write their music for them — not even a little."

One of the children at P.S. 39 is already a vet. Milo Poniewozik is a 10-year-old fifth-grader. Last year, he wrote a quintet that was played by musicians from the Philharmonic. This year, he expanded his piece so it can be played by the whole Philharmonic.

"It's orchestrated for the entire orchestra, meaning not just the double bass, violin, flute, all that, but also the harps, the horn, the trumpet, more woodwinds, stuff like that," Milo says.

He and Daniel Felsenfeld have gotten together and worked with a musical notation program called Sibelius, which allows Milo to listen to a digital approximation of the orchestra.

"I also had to make a lot of decisions because with only five instruments, you don't really need to think about how big or how quiet you want the music to sound, because it's really not a lot of instruments," Milo says. "But with the orchestra, you can make it sound like everything — or nothing."

'A Knockout Little Piece'

On a Wednesday morning in late May, Milo and Daniel arrive at Avery Fisher Hall, where the New York Philharmonic has gathered to rehearse pieces by nine of the Very Young Composers. Before he knows it, Milo is standing in front of 100 musicians and Philharmonic assistant conductor Joshua Weilerstein, hearing his work played by an orchestra.

"I thought it was really cool, being able to hear the orchestra play my piece for the first time," Milo says. "It was definitely a lot different than hearing it on the computer."

Deak calls Milo's work "a knockout little piece." He continues, "I just gave a whoop when I saw it because it shows both a child's spirit and yet some grasp of adult issues in a way you just can't predict."

The next day, with more than 2,000 New York City schoolkids in Avery Fisher Hall, Milo introduces his piece, The Globetrotter, in an interview with Wiprud. Afterward, Milo is a little bit breathless.

"It was really cool to be able to stand up in front of the entire audience and have my piece performed," the young composer says. "I was a little nervous, at first, that something was gonna go wrong; like, you're afraid that you're gonna fall off the stage or your shoes are gonna slip off or something. You know, you're just afraid you're gonna make a mistake." But he quickly adds, "It sounded really good. It was how I wanted it to sound."

And Milo says he's definitely going to continue to compose music.

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Transcript

SCOTT SIMON, HOST:

Imagine if you were 10 years old and composed a piece of music that was played by the New York Philharmonic. Well, for a few New York City school kids, this is a dream come true. Jeff Lunden has this look at the Philharmonic Very Young Composers program.

JEFF LUNDEN, BYLINE: Jon Deak, who played bass with the New York Philharmonic for over 40 years, says the idea for the program came when he and conductor Marin Alsop visited an elementary school in Brooklyn several years ago.

JON DEAK: As we were going in, I saw all the children's art on the walls, which was so superior. I said, that's it, Marin. We've gotta get kids to compose music on the level of this art right here, because look, doesn't that look like a Picasso? Doesn't that look like a Paul Klee?

LUNDEN: So, Deak set about getting the musical equivalents of paints, paintbrushes and canvas for children in elementary schools which partner with the New York Philharmonic. Each year, 72 very lucky kids in six New York area schools participate in this free after-school program funded by Credit Suisse. Theodore Wiprud is the Philharmonic's Director of Education.

THEODORE WIPRUD: The kids are not chosen for being musical geniuses. The guidelines we give the schools in trying to identify some fourth and fifth graders for the program is that they be kids for whom this could make a difference. Whether or not they study an instrument is not necessarily a good predictor of whether they're going to do something creative in music.

(SOUNDBITE OF CLASSROOM)

LUNDEN: It's a Tuesday afternoon in January. Twelve kids have gathered in music teacher Paul Trust's classroom at P.S. 39 in Park Slope, Brooklyn, to start their musical journey. Teaching artist Daniel Felsenfeld begins, by getting them in sync with the rhythms he's clapping.

(SOUNDBITE OF CLAPPING GAME)

LUNDEN: Over the next 12 weeks, each of these kids will learn some of the rudimentary elements of composition - a little bit about musical notation, a little bit about the instruments of the orchestra through classroom demonstrations. Cellist Rose Bellini demonstrated all kinds of cool effects she can do on her instrument.

ROSE BELLINI: You can also...

(SOUNDBITE OF CELLO MUSIC)

LUNDEN: Program creator Jon Deak says the central idea of the Very Young Composers program is to tap into the kids' creative spirit without getting in the way.

DEAK: Some of these kids have trouble locating middle C on a piano. Does that mean they can't compose music of depth? No. What do they have to do? They have to hum it for us, sing, whistle, tap the rhythms, even if they can't notate them. And we get their piece.

LUNDEN: Or, as teaching artist Daniel Felsenfeld puts it:

DANIEL FELSENFELD: The most important thing about this class is that you never, ever, ever write their music for them, even a little.

LUNDEN: One of the children at P.S. 39 is already a vet. Milo Poniewozik is a 10-year-old fifth-grader. Last year he wrote a quintet which was played by musicians from the Philharmonic. This year, he's going to expand his piece, so it can be played by the Philharmonic.

MILO PONIEWOZIK: It's orchestrated for the entire orchestra, meaning not just the double bass, violin, flute, all that, but also the harps, the horn, the trumpet, more woodwinds, stuff like that.

LUNDEN: He and Daniel Felsenfeld have gotten together and worked with a musical notation program called Sibelius, which allows Milo to listen to a digital approximation of the orchestra.

(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC, "THE GLOBETROTTER")

PONIEWOZIK: I also had to make a lot of decisions because with only five instruments, you don't really need to think about how big or how quiet you want the music to sound because it's really not a lot of instruments. But, with the orchestra, you can make it sound like everything or nothing.

LUNDEN: Still nothing quite prepares Milo for the experience of hearing 100 musicians, conducted by Joshua Weilerstein, playing his piece.

(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC, "THE GLOBETROTTER")

PONIEWOZIK: I thought it was really cool being able to hear the orchestra play my piece for the first time. It was definitely a lot different than hearing it on the computer.

(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC, "THE GLOBETROTTER")

LUNDEN: Program creator Jon Deak...

DEAK: It's a knockout little piece. It really is. And I just gave a whoop when I saw it because it shows both a child's spirit and yet some grasp of adult issues in a way you just can't predict.

LUNDEN: In late May, with over 2,000 New York City school kids in Avery Fisher Hall, Milo introduces his piece, called The Globetrotter, in an interview with education director Theodore Wiprud.

(SOUNDBITE OF INTERVIEW)

WIPRUD: And what might we listen for?

PONIEWOZIK: You should listen for the playful and suspenseful moments. And listen how the background instruments like the flute, contribute to the piece.

WIPRUD: Wow. OK, very good.

LUNDEN: And The Globetrotter receives its world premiere.

(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC "THE GLOBETROTTER")

(APPLAUSE)

LUNDEN: Afterwards, Milo was a little bit breathless.

PONIEWOZIK: It was really cool to be able to stand up in front of the entire audience and have my piece performed. I was a little nervous, at first, that something was going to go wrong; like, you're afraid that you're going to fall off the stage or your shoes are going to slip off or something. You know, you're just afraid you're going to make a mistake.

SIMON: To hear the New York Philharmonic - I mean the New York Philharmonic - play Milo's piece, "The Globetrotter," in its entirety, go to nprmusic.org. I'm going to do it immediately. This is WEEKEND EDITION from NPR News. I'm Scott Simon. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.