Enable A Second Defensive And Offensive Loadout

DJfriede

Posted 09 October 2013 - 10:21 AM

DJfriede

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This is an old one, but it didn't get a lot of attention lately and some changes has come up, so I will post it as an idea here: There should be an option to have two defensive and two offensive loadouts for your survivors. Right now we have only one for each offensive/defense.

Why do we need it?

PvE =/= PvP, that's the main reason.

For a raider there is nothing better than a bunch of long rifles for some offensive action. He will need tactical/shooting or ballistic vests and a lot of grenades or charges as equipment. Looting missions on higher levels will mostly be auto missions with swords and melee vests or some high dps assault rifles, SMGs and the likes with bandos and reload vests. So we need totally different setups for the offensive PvP and PvE missions respectively.

Same goes for defense. Whoever tried to defend his base against a level 50 zombie horde with 5 guys present, all armed with poor reload/damage M24s will know what I mean: Lower ranged but higher DPS/APS guns are way more effective against zombies than pure long rifle defense setups. However, try to defend your compound against human attackers with PPMs, MTARs etc. and you will certainly get laughed at.

With two and more zombie attacks a day, running a lot of looting missions and the occasional raids it's a constant switching back and forth of weapon setups. Now add some disconnect errors in zombie raids or missions and you can do it all over again.

So giving us the opportunity to choose two different loadouts for each offense and defense would save us all a lot of time. I know, it has been proposed before and Con is opposed to too much micro management. But it's far more micro management in the current situation than it would be with two more loadouts. Any opinions?

Cold_Hand

Posted 09 October 2013 - 10:34 AM

Cold_Hand

235 posts

So PVP defense loadouts and PVP offensive loadouts.... I agree with the PVP offensive load out because i'a always busy change my survivor gear and weapon when i going on PVE mission after raiding......well PVP defense load out will be a nice idea because raiders and zombies have different HP.....but i don't need that..

DJfriede

Posted 09 October 2013 - 10:50 AM

DJfriede

888 posts

Yup, it's a PVE and a PVP loadout option for both offense and defense. Of course the offense option doesn't need to be restricted to either PVE or PVP. You could as well design different raiding teams (like a 2x5 men team setup vs. 2x3 and 1x4 teams, for example).

The defensive loadouts should only apply to either PVE or PVP though. So the game chooses the loadout automatically depending on a human or zombie attack.

Rose Mantis

Posted 09 October 2013 - 12:42 PM

JHPinto

Posted 09 October 2013 - 01:34 PM

JHPinto

619 posts

Totally agree, specially with the second offensive loadout. The second defensive one I don't care much about, since I always dodge zombie attacks (I REALLY hate those), but it wouldn't bother me, so let it come.

Posted 09 October 2013 - 09:48 PM

Rose Mantis

Posted 09 October 2013 - 10:08 PM

Rose Mantis

1,009 posts

So more content/feature for the PVP players at the expense of non-PVP Players?.

I'm unsure about how widely this is needed in all fairness

Dafuq? How daFUQ is this at the expense of PvE players? I AM A PVE PLAYER and see no downside to PvE players for a much needed feature to help dejumble the weapon set juggling for PvP players, who are half the playerbase!

Pudding

Posted 09 October 2013 - 10:19 PM

Pudding

49 posts

So more content/feature for the PVP players at the expense of non-PVP Players?.

I'm unsure about how widely this is needed in all fairness

How exactly..... would this......be a downside to PvE players? Did you even read the original post? All its doing is adding a second loadout for both Offensive and Defensive situations. The second Defensive would still be good for PvE players because unless they give zero fucks about their compound, they need to protect it. And the second Offensive loadout would be neutral to people who don't raid........ It would present ZERO downsides to PvE players.

There's a little problem with extra loadouts. As in, Con said in chat (no pic, sadly) there won't be more. Too much extra data for the servers, I think. Don't know if what Con said was definitive or not, but there's that. I would love to see another loadout, but he's the man with the numbers and the power.

DJfriede

Posted 10 October 2013 - 06:53 AM

DJfriede

888 posts

As in, Con said in chat (no pic, sadly) there won't be more. Too much extra data for the servers, I think. Don't know if what Con said was definitive or not, but there's that. I would love to see another loadout, but he's the man with the numbers and the power.

Yup, I heard that too. Chances of implementing are low. Still I want to put the topic out there because it's one of the little things that could tackle the more frustrating parts of the game.

fusurugi

Posted 11 October 2013 - 10:24 AM

Rose Mantis

Posted 12 October 2013 - 10:45 AM

Rose Mantis

1,009 posts

Here's an idea. You can save a notepad with your four loadouts. Want to mod the loadouts? Just save over to old notepad when pressing "Export Loadout". Done. all you have to do when switching loadouts is click "Import" and then pick from "Zom Off" "Zom Def" "PvP Off" "PvP On". It reads the notepad real quick, calls it a day.

oldgamster

Posted 29 November 2013 - 06:02 AM

There's a little problem with extra loadouts. As in, Con said in chat (no pic, sadly) there won't be more. Too much extra data for the servers, I think. Don't know if what Con said was definitive or not, but there's that. I would love to see another loadout, but he's the man with the numbers and the power.

Yup, I heard that too. Chances of implementing are low. Still I want to put the topic out there because it's one of the little things that could tackle the more frustrating parts of the game.

As far as I remember Con said something about it being expensive to store all the data for the additional loadouts. Not too sure if he pulled the plug for good though.

And here i thought i had a great idea only to find out not only has it been suggested as well as before this thread somewhere but appears to have already been shot down. If this is true this absolutely bites. managing the weapons and gear for different ops is a royal pain for the very reasons already stated. zed O and D is different than PvP O and D. I never run the same survivors out on missions it seems and the bad part is I only have 8 at the moment and at level 13 to boot. having 10 and at higher levels will be a bigger pain.