The commander of the Rhode Island Army National Guard 13th Civil Support Team (CST) claims that her two WMD detection experts assigned duty at the Boston Marathon along with WMD troops from the Massachusetts Army National Guard 1st CST were several blocks from the finish line at the time of the twin terror bombings, but when those units immediately tried to move into position to respond, troops from both states were forced to stay back after law enforcement denied them access to the scene at the finish line.

Wouldnt surprise me if it was a Union thing, or just the city hierarchy itching to strut their stuff.

My money's on the Union thing.

During the chaos on the Friday Live Thread, I was following BPD scanner traffic. Chatter on the net began talking about (and I'm quoting from memory) any officer having been on duty more than 18 hours needed to report to the command tent for debrief. Union rules for overtime.

During an all-hands this-is-not-a-drill event, they were more concerned about union compliance.

I was listening to a live internet feed of law enforcement communications when they found the second suspect in the boat and it was like a keystone cops act.

There was a lot of confusion, they didn't seem to know who was who, if they should illuminate the site or not, all kinds of cross talk and open mikes. I'm surprised they didn't accidentally shoot each other.

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posted on 04/22/2013 8:56:17 AM PDT
by oldbrowser
(We have a rogue government in Washington)

I have never seen such media and biggov hysteria as this 2013 Boston event...

If someone came out with an authentic video showing Ayman al-Zawahiri and Mullah Omar planting a bomb in the West, Texas fertilizer plant it still wouldn't get half the over the top adulation that Boston is getting.

That’s what I find abhorring about the House-to-house search of Waterton/Watertown (whatever). They had the local PDs REMFing crowd and lookyloo control when they should have been upfront advising these rights-taking Rambo SWAT Nazis that the house they were invading belonged to a law-abiding citizen.

Additionally, they would have provided common sense in that if your Gestapo Team’s supposed purpose it to save the inhabitants from a hostage situation, it is a real CLUE t hat after the first two or three come out (away from the supposed hostage taker) they probably would have told someone. Instead, shuffled on down the street being ‘greeted’ each step of the way by another jackboot idiot.

Instead the video I saw was of a half dozen SWAT pukes storming a house, pulling the inhabitants out one-by-one, hands in the air, yelling at them (screaming - HANDS UP!) off on down the street. Eight or nine people!....a local LEO could have told them.

These RAMBOs were doing rote execution of the ridiculous training exercises that stress MAX HOSTILE ENCOUNTERS.

I saw that film and I was filled with rage at what my country has become.

Multiple people in this thread commenting when they obviously have not read the linked article. This group is part of the state’s DHS plan and was on standby for just such an event in order to evaluate any explosion for other threats, i.e. “dirty bomb”, etc. By not allowing them to do that job, there was potential for mass exposure to other harmful agents beyond the bomb itself. The BPD limited its response to the immediately obvious without considering other threats. This was a classic C3I (Command, Control, Communications, & Intelligence) failure where the right hand did not know what the left hand should be doing.

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posted on 04/22/2013 9:17:30 AM PDT
by T-Bird45
(It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)

Several thoughts jump out:
1. Boston PD had enough LEO staff on site with existing personnel
2. Limited area, didn’t wish to add to the confusion at the time.
3. It was a crime scene and once injured were cleared had to be treated as such...NG aren’t trained to protect crime scenes....

LOL, I just heard Rush playing one of the sound bites .... ISLAMIC TERRORISTS and one woman jurnaLIEst said after some other person said " ISLAMIC TERRORIST " she said that we need to separate those who words here to get the meaning bla bla bla, bla bla bla.... As in the one movie " YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH " lady jurnaLIEst.

Depends on whether they were on state guard status, Title 32 training status or Title 10 active duty. If state, governor is commander and can order them in. If federal, probably posse comitatus issue. My guess is they were there in their state guard status.

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posted on 04/22/2013 9:28:30 AM PDT
by jagusafr
(the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))

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