Before any of those things though, he's a guy with an extremely hidden ball. The discussion on Jose Quintana's effectiveness has to start there, because that's what sets him up for success. He hides it like a champ. I don't care if he's a fireballer or not (he's not though), more than anything it's the deception that defines him and allows him to be so effective. Take it away, and he's not going to be the same pitcher.

If so, they haven't found it in 2 years. It's a little like saying if pitcher X loses his ability to hit the corners, or loses velocity, he won't be as effective.

Still, he's the pitcher I'd trade because we'd be selling high for a change.