Combat Tiers Family Pack

Combat Tiers bring a new dimension to tabletop gaming scenarios where height and distance are needed. Eliminating guesswork, Combat Tiers place any size miniatures at the exact height and distance needed to determine where combatants are during your battle scenarios.

Made from durable acrylic, Combat Tiers are designed to easily engage your gaming experience. The transparent material will not obscure the gaming environment. Multi-tier possibilities allow you to create various heights, while the large staging platforms allow the players to place multiple figures in simulated flight or combat, keeping everything sturdy and precise. Combat Tiers are gauged in one inch increments both on the prominent staging platforms and on the supporting columns, so ranges can be easily determined at a glance. With additional extensions, your figures can soar to even higher heights. No longer are ranges reduced to estimations—know exactly how the battle unfolds!

Combat Tiers can simulate many environments—use them to gauge underwater and space environments in addition to flight. For military enthusiasts, planes come alive during raids and strafing runs, and ships and submarines enjoy a new level of silent running as altitudes and depths take on a whole new gaming dimension.

Combat Tiers truly invigorate all your combat gaming situations.

The Combat Tiers Family Pack consists of:

four 4" X 4" grid platforms

two 5" X 5" grid bases

five 2" extension posts

five 4" extension posts

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I am curious at how stable they are. From the photos and description, I cannot tell what the base is, and how big the base is. In the picture they have a bunch of minis piled on top of a high platform, what what is holding it all up?

If anyone can answers these questions, I would certainly be interested in this product.

I am curious at how stable they are. From the photos and description, I cannot tell what the base is, and how big the base is. In the picture they have a bunch of minis piled on top of a high platform, what what is holding it all up?

If anyone can answers these questions, I would certainly be interested in this product.

Have you used them? It seems to me there might be a problem with flying characters moving around the map in combat, with the base being a 5"x5" square. Since the base would have to move through the middle of everything and force a lot of pick-up and replace of minis on the "ground" map.

Have you used them? It seems to me there might be a problem with flying characters moving around the map in combat, with the base being a 5"x5" square. Since the base would have to move through the middle of everything and force a lot of pick-up and replace of minis on the "ground" map.

I haven't used them, no. I was wondering about the same thing, although I guess that as long as the battlefield isn't too crowded, it should be OK (it wouldn't be much fun if you were running a skirmish, though).

Thanks for the interest in the product! I made them almost a year ago for my own campaign use, got tired of having my painted miniatures falling off of water bottles and such and getting nicked and dented.

The players in my group kept telling me. "Dude, you have filled a niche" let's get them into the gaming world. After a lot of toil, finding a manufacture - patent stuff - legal stuff - here they are for you to enjoy and use.

The base platforms are five by five, wide and sturdy. We've had them as high a one hundred feet (in game terms not actual) and they are still stable. The other tiers are four by four and can hold all manner of minis, plastic or metal. The gargantuan black dragon was easily supported.

I hope those of you that purchase them truly enjoy them, for our group we no longer dread when friends or foes take to the air and we "know" easily who or what is "out of range" and all other manner of height and distance are no longer guesswork.

Please let me know how you like them or if you don’t. Forward your own experiences with them, how they can be improved (we have some more ideas), is their a need for a hex grid?

Thanks for looking and I hope you have as much fun with them as we have had.

In my experience, I have found most gaming scenarios to occur in ten foot equivalent measures, mostly 20 feet, 30 feet and 60 feet - those are the distances we wanted to emulate the most. Combat Tiers simulate those and more, from 10 feet to 120 feet and more.

Of course, if we hear that a one inch extension for a five foot boost is desired we will definitely entertain such requests and see what the manufacture can do. Just let us know!

I don't have the product yet (still shipping), just trying to clarify for the guy who asked that it was a 2 inch piece but would be 10 feet, not 20 feet. Not sure on the need for a 1 inch piece myself.

Looking forward to receiving these. My players are currently in a module where they're going to be attacked by a flying large black dragon if they live that long. (Not to mention a number of incorporeal things along the way.) It will be their first dragon as they're all newer players. I think the combat tiers will really help with the scope of it.

In any event, the heights are not static. Nothing prevents you from changing the distance, from 5 to 50 ft. It's just nice to have them to scale. Perhaps you add some sort of swappable signs to note what height each are?

More praise, wonderful stuff- thank you all. We have more en route to our Paizo friends as we have hit a backorder status. Thanks all for the interest in the product; we truly worked hard to make a quality product. It is very satisfying to see something come to fruition and to really offer something to our fellow gamers that we know helps us all get the most enjoyment out of our mutual favorite hobby.

My group will gather for our next session this upcoming Saturday, and are in the midst of Fortress of the Stone Giants. I foresee Combat Tiers supporting a host of airborne villains and have them ready and waiting. I won’t mention who or what, as my group view these threads as often as I do!

Paizo was quite quick shipping mine out east here. Right away my wife and I made two tiers as tall as they each would go and placed a huge white dragon on one and a group of dragonslayers on the other. It was completely sturdy. Best of all, we didn't have the old 'shaking hands' syndrome thinking one small imperfection would break the ice and cause it all to come tumbling down. Super stuff.

Thanks for the pic link, Bagpuss... I know what I'm getting for Christmas now (drool...)

Assuming, of course, there are some available by Christmas.

When will these be available again?

Edit: Fhtagn! I should read the whole discussion before posting. So, by next week you say, Jester King? I will definitely be ordering some (rubs hands).

Have you considered adding a winding staircase accessory? I don't know if it would be possible, but I am picturing a really dramatic entrance to a dungeon I'm running, where the first chamber is a good 100 feet straight up, with a staircase hewn into the stone wall...

We here at Tinkered Tactics have a whole slew of ideas and products that we hope to unleash in 2009, and I do thank you for your suggestion – it shall be discussed! More Family Packs have been shipped to our good friends at Paizo and all back orders will be fulfilled very shortly. We sent them plenty more - so if you want them – order away.
They also make just the right Christmas gift for the fellow DM gamer or for your own gaming tables.

I put the Family Pack in my shopping cart as soon as I saw this. My group is high level at this point, so the flying is rampant. Representing flying by sitting a mini on a plastic dice box and trying to remember the actual altitude is distracting at best.

We also put the dice box, which is transparent plastic, over a mini (with the mini inside it) to represent invisibility. This actually works fairly well. Given that players will be dealing with medium-sized minis most of the time, maybe a set of medium-sized plastic covers would be a good idea. Different tints for different conditions (invisible, hiding, gaseous, ethereal, astral, etc.). I know there are colored chips that you can stand minis on, but this would be easier to see / distinguish at our large gaming table.

True, they look good and will come to good uses in any campaign. But come on guys and galls, how often does one need these things that one has to pay 50 bucks for?

True, in every other encounter, either a PC or a NPC of some kind will take to the air. And its also true that minis tend to fall of bottles, Dice, or what ever you might think of to simulate flight. Not that often, and if it does, the scene usually lasts only for a few rounds.

I for my part don't think that I need that many of those combat tiers that justifies an investment of 50$. But its not so much the price in comparison with how often I have need to use the tiers. What really made up my decision not to buy them is that one already has to struggle in order to pack up alle the gear that is needed to play: Tons of books, a case of minis, CDs for background music, scripts, charts, pencils, markers, paper, Combat maps, tiles, Critical Hit and Fumble decks, magic Item Cards along with snacks and drinks.

I would go along for one or two small tiers, big enough for a single medium sized mini, but thats all.

Save up and get a second Family Pack if you need more than one. It's more economical than buying the basic pack. (You would have to pay shipping twice if you wait to order it though.)

Of course you won't want to wait for that option and have them go on backorder again.

The whole thing is I have a x mas present on here that costs ten to ship so if I get the family pack it runs my at 90 dollars with shipping Paizo pays for 10 dollars of shipping at over 100 dollars I can get like a 25 dollar item for like 10 bucks just trying to figure which would help more

The Family Pack is of course the better economic buy, and the multiple Combat Tiers really do come in handy when you have multiple ongoing aerial scenarios. I put mine in my mini's case, as I also haul quite a bit of gear to my gaming location - they are lightweight and can be disassembled to fit snugly into most carry cases and boxes.

Paizo just received another bulk order of Family Packs and we should have plenty there for December and Christmas time. Should we sell those out fairly soon, we have stock to keep them supplied.

The idea of transparent and colored cubes is one of the ideas we will introduce in various sizes medium-sized, large-sized and so on, hopefully in 2009. The Combat Tier is our first baby, but we hope to have a large family of products.

As always, thanks all for trying our product and as fellow gamers ourselves - we here at Tinkered Tactics have a desire to make our mutual favored hobby a little bit more fun and easier to game.

1/ a 5' increment cube would be excellent
2/ A "1 inch sq capping cube" would be great for those lone levitating mages. Using thsi would not even need a base!
3/ A say "2 or 3 inch sq capping cube" would be great for those levitating munchies. Maybe a similar size base would keep this stable without intruding too much on the battlemat (or fit in the Dwarven Forge room)

In my experience, I have found most gaming scenarios to occur in ten foot equivalent measures, mostly 20 feet, 30 feet and 60 feet - those are the distances we wanted to emulate the most. Combat Tiers simulate those and more, from 10 feet to 120 feet and more.

Of course, if we hear that a one inch extension for a five foot boost is desired we will definitely entertain such requests and see what the manufacture can do. Just let us know!

Again thanks for the interest in the product.

I just ordered the Family Pack and 4" extension pack, so I'm very much looking forward to using these in our next game (where I've written an encounter to specifically use these!).

I would like to put in a vote for 1" extensions. Perhaps they'll never be used, but I would prefer to have the option to represent 25' available.

I am thinking of buying this - I love the idea. However, all I see are 2" and 4" extensions. How does the product deal with odd numbered heights? If I can't get the platform to exactly 5" seems like a waste.