Because a gryphon is a mix between an eagle head/wings and a lion body. That's the definition of a gryphon and Blizzard is calling them gryphons and they looked like that since Warcraft 1. Now they changed it without good reason.

I think it looks great.. plenty more HD.

I did not complain about extra polygons, I complain about the art-direction. It contradicts all previouse Artworks (including painted ones without any polygonal restrictions) and it looks wrong on many levels.

I did not complain about extra polygons, I complain about the art-direction. It contradicts all previouse Artworks (including painted ones without any polygonal restrictions) and it looks wrong on many levels.

Because a gryphon is a mix between an eagle head/wings and a lion body. That's the definition of a gryphon and Blizzard is calling them gryphons and they looked like that since Warcraft 1. Now they changed it without good reason.

I did not complain about extra polygons, I complain about the art-direction. It contradicts all previouse Artworks (including painted ones without any polygonal restrictions) and it looks wrong on many levels.

Fair enough but after so many reskins of gryphons with lolrecolor I think this new art direction is a breath of fresh air but I may be biased towards the new polygon count. I think the older gryphons look like shit and could never use them on my alliance chars. You can't tell me that tons of recolors on this gryphon won't be coming so that argument is invalid (not sure if made by you), but different models/art direction who knows.

From the #1 Cata review on Amazon.com: "Blizzard's greatest misstep was blaming players instead of admitting their mistakes.
They've convinced half of the population that the other half are unskilled whiners, causing a permanent rift in the community."

From the #1 Cata review on Amazon.com: "Blizzard's greatest misstep was blaming players instead of admitting their mistakes.
They've convinced half of the population that the other half are unskilled whiners, causing a permanent rift in the community."

Honestly, just reading Tides Of Darkness in which the Wildhammers and their great Gryphons really stood out in the story, and as I read I got the vision that these Gryphons were very majestic but very deadly, with just three of them taking down a dragon kin of Alexstraza, but I don't quite think the new model fulfills the vision, the beaks and talons look blunt, when really they should like they are capable of ripping a man in two, at one point a Gryphon ripped through a dragons scales and deep into its body close to the bone.

Other then that they look good, maybe they could do with looking a bit more noble but that's difficult to convey in a model.

IMO it's an improvement, looks 10x better then it did so why complain

Last edited by Conor; 2012-12-23 at 03:42 PM.

The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits, whereas stupidity does not...

Because it's war. And things getting dirty in battle. Not much time to get into a car.... wait.. bird wash..

Joke aside.. It's an ongoing thing ever since. For the most part items lacking color vibrancy. Every toon, when looked at from a bit of distance turns into a greyish mass.
For years I've dreamed to have an all white toon one day... I dunno, but when you have a Nelf with white hair, and using a white mount, that just looks cool in my opinion.
Can be applied to other colors as well, I'm sure someone would love to have an all red toon... It just isn't the case, Blizzard drops that ball ever since.

Yes, this don't look like a gryphon... but you'll defend the Snowy and Ebon Gryphons that are blatantly not gryphons by virtue of colouring alone?

Claws and Beak don't look so sharp: Due to higher polygon count, they could round out edges alot more, instead of having such 8 year old limitations.

Not pristine white feathers: I'm sorry, it's a war. You think everyone has time to be pampering their mount during war-times?

Games are not necessarily "easier" today. You are just a better player.
It takes more now to impress many gamers than it did 2-5 years ago, because so much has already been seen and done.
Many players expect to be wow'd with every release of a beloved franchise.
These are generally NOT the fault of the developers, but the fault of many players over-hyping and/or setting expectations too high.

Also seems like people think people who compare them to irl eagles are crazy. A Gryphon is eagle/Lion like griffins (Heroes games) or just basic mythology. These new ones got a nice higer poly count and higher res textures but look like shit. The eyes are umm... what are they really? They dont fit at all tbh. And the beak looks twisted like it crashed into a wall. Why change so much with the old one? I think people would like a high res version of the old one. Like people already have said, its looked the same during the entire warcraft "timespan" and now it looks like something from the netherworld

Last edited by melak; 2012-12-23 at 03:58 PM.

Originally Posted by Runecapeman

I try not to post anywhere anymore, due to fear of being infracted. Feels like there are too many mods that aren't screened well enough. "Dirty cops" if you will.

From the #1 Cata review on Amazon.com: "Blizzard's greatest misstep was blaming players instead of admitting their mistakes.
They've convinced half of the population that the other half are unskilled whiners, causing a permanent rift in the community."