A man may fight for many things. His country, his friends, his principles, the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child. But personally, I'd mud-wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sack of French porn.

The target did indeed "flick" when hit, and many times did it flick.....

Unfortunately, the Fig 14 Huns head on a window background, where only hits on the head count, gives you (I would hazzard a guess) at 50 / 50 split between scoring zone and nowt.... At 400 that is quite a margin

Take the lane to our left Pep, the mysterious Swiss cheese maker! He was riddling the scoring zone, but still lost one helluva lot to the "no score" zone....

I wouldn't kick yerself too hard, mate.... From what i saw you acquitted yourself very well....

I think that some feedback would have been useful, even if only after the comp is finished.... I would have gladly given C8 and D8 some feedback if I only knew who they were?

Even if it was only.......... [shouts] OY, TWO ROUNDS ONLY PER EXPOSURE!!" [/shouts]

£60 in petrol£20 in entry fees£30 in ammo£30 in accomodation£10 in food

That's 150 quid, and at the end of the day you leave the range having had absolutely no idea as to where your shots went What a way to encourage new blood and get the feedback so as you can learn from the experience and become a better shooter

Originally Posted By streetfighter:£60 in petrol£20 in entry fees£30 in ammo£30 in accomodation£10 in food

That's 150 quid, and at the end of the day you leave the range having had absolutely no idea as to where your shots went What a way to encourage new blood and get the feedback so as you can learn from the experience and become a better shooter

Mark

I need some feedback, hence High power and SR looks like the best option for the rest of the season.

Totally agree with Streetfighter, the problem with PR is the lack of "Quality" feedback on your performance during the day’s shoot. In my time shooting PR I've found that a lot of "Luck/Chance" figures in where you end up on the results table at the end of the day. The shoots are good fun and challenging but it is difficult to assess whether you are improving, as you cannot always compare one shoot to another.

SR at least gives you sighters before each stage (Apart from the 100yd Standing) and all shot holes are spotted back at the end of each stage giving you an indication of your grouping ability and a chance to make sight or position adjustments if required.

Highpower Rifle similarly gives you feedback between shots on slow fire stages and grouping indication after each rapid-fire string, you are thus able to see what effect small changes to your sights and shooting positions have on paper. I don't think that there is any type of shooting regularly available other than Highpower that is better placed to assist the shooter in building stable shooting positions (standing, sitting and prone) and allowing him/her to practice reading the wind and adjusting sights correctly to compensate.

If you shoot any type of magazine fed full bore rifle the only way to improve your shooting ability is to practice and compete. Dry fire at home and learn to build a good position/hold, get familiar with your equipment, make sure your ammunition is reliable and the best it can be it the time you have available to load or test it, then come along and enter a competition. Where you end up on the scoreboard at the end of the day is the point at which you start to look for improvement next time out, keep what worked well and ditch/rethink what did not work out. Practice/Compete/Practice/Compete/Practice/Compete

Originally Posted By RN-Submariner:Totally agree with Streetfighter, the problem with PR is the lack of "Quality" feedback on your performance during the day’s shoot. In my time shooting PR I've found that a lot of "Luck/Chance" figures in where you end up on the results table at the end of the day. The shoots are good fun and challenging but it is difficult to assess whether you are improving, as you cannot always compare one shoot to another.

SR at least gives you sighters before each stage (Apart from the 100yd Standing) and all shot holes are spotted back at the end of each stage giving you an indication of your grouping ability and a chance to make sight or position adjustments if required.

Highpower Rifle similarly gives you feedback between shots on slow fire stages and grouping indication after each rapid-fire string, you are thus able to see what effect small changes to your sights and shooting positions have on paper. I don't think that there is any type of shooting regularly available other than Highpower that is better placed to assist the shooter in building stable shooting positions (standing, sitting and prone) and allowing him/her to practice reading the wind and adjusting sights correctly to compensate.

If you shoot any type of magazine fed full bore rifle the only way to improve your shooting ability is to practice and compete. Dry fire at home and learn to build a good position/hold, get familiar with your equipment, make sure your ammunition is reliable and the best it can be it the time you have available to load or test it, then come along and enter a competition. Where you end up on the scoreboard at the end of the day is the point at which you start to look for improvement next time out, keep what worked well and ditch/rethink what did not work out. Practice/Compete/Practice/Compete/Practice/Compete

Sound advice and noted.

I am ditching PR for the rest of the year and going to concentrate on exactly the above.

Stop being lazy and start reloading again but more importantly practice, practice and practice some more.

Originally Posted By RN-Submariner:Totally agree with Streetfighter, the problem with PR is the lack of "Quality" feedback on your performance during the day’s shoot. In my time shooting PR I've found that a lot of "Luck/Chance" figures in where you end up on the results table at the end of the day. The shoots are good fun and challenging but it is difficult to assess whether you are improving, as you cannot always compare one shoot to another.

SR at least gives you sighters before each stage (Apart from the 100yd Standing) and all shot holes are spotted back at the end of each stage giving you an indication of your grouping ability and a chance to make sight or position adjustments if required.

Highpower Rifle similarly gives you feedback between shots on slow fire stages and grouping indication after each rapid-fire string, you are thus able to see what effect small changes to your sights and shooting positions have on paper. I don't think that there is any type of shooting regularly available other than Highpower that is better placed to assist the shooter in building stable shooting positions (standing, sitting and prone) and allowing him/her to practice reading the wind and adjusting sights correctly to compensate.

If you shoot any type of magazine fed full bore rifle the only way to improve your shooting ability is to practice and compete. Dry fire at home and learn to build a good position/hold, get familiar with your equipment, make sure your ammunition is reliable and the best it can be it the time you have available to load or test it, then come along and enter a competition. Where you end up on the scoreboard at the end of the day is the point at which you start to look for improvement next time out, keep what worked well and ditch/rethink what did not work out. Practice/Compete/Practice/Compete/Practice/Compete

At last people are starting to say what I've been saying for the last few years. I haven't seriously shot PR for at least two years, and not at all this year yet. It just seemed a waste of my time and money, but occationally one feels the need to go and blat some knock down targets so I'll make the effort once in a while.

The gap between the two, filled by the Blue Team and 'others' with thier TR (tactical rifle) type comps...?

A man may fight for many things. His country, his friends, his principles, the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child. But personally, I'd mud-wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sack of French porn.

Traditionally the Blue Team matches have been designed for those using a long barrel 7.62mm rifle, like the rem 700.

There is not much positional shooting and most stages are prone off the bipod.

A reflection on the Met's working practise.............

A man may fight for many things. His country, his friends, his principles, the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child. But personally, I'd mud-wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sack of French porn.

Originally Posted By ACR26:Traditionally the Blue Team matches have been designed for those using a long barrel 7.62mm rifle, like the rem 700.

There is not much positional shooting and most stages are prone off the bipod.

A reflection on the Met's working practise.............

And their inability to shoot any other position.

I was with a load of firearms officers last night, they were showing us a shot gun only they (Police and military) are allowed - a 5-shot pump. They said they used OO buck and (banned and only allowed by police) slug. I asked what the slug was for and they said for taking down animals, such as rampaging cattle and anything that might escape from one of the many zoos in the county

I didn't have the heart to tell him my Remington 1100 can have 13 slug rounds in the magazine.

Originally Posted By ACR26:Traditionally the Blue Team matches have been designed for those using a long barrel 7.62mm rifle, like the rem 700.

There is not much positional shooting and most stages are prone off the bipod.

A reflection on the Met's working practise.............

And their inability to shoot any other position.

I was with a load of firearms officers last night, they were showing us a shot gun only they (Police and military) are allowed - a 5-shot pump. They said they used OO buck and (banned and only allowed by police) slug. I asked what the slug was for and they said for taking down animals, such as rampaging cattle and anything that might escape from one of the many zoos in the county

I didn't have the heart to tell him my Remington 1100 can have 13 slug rounds in the magazine.

Shame you didnt have your shottie with you.....

They'd probably figure that you were special forces with a 13 shot semi-auto.....

Originally Posted By ACR26:Traditionally the Blue Team matches have been designed for those using a long barrel 7.62mm rifle, like the rem 700.

There is not much positional shooting and most stages are prone off the bipod.

A reflection on the Met's working practise.............

And their inability to shoot any other position.

I was with a load of firearms officers last night, they were showing us a shot gun only they (Police and military) are allowed - a 5-shot pump. They said they used OO buck and (banned and only allowed by police) slug. I asked what the slug was for and they said for taking down animals, such as rampaging cattle and anything that might escape from one of the many zoos in the county

I didn't have the heart to tell him my Remington 1100 can have 13 slug rounds in the magazine.

Shame you didnt have your shottie with you.....

They'd probably figure that you were special forces with a 13 shot semi-auto.....

If I remember correctly Matt was a Navy paratrooper..............................

The Royal Navy (not Royal Marines) do have a specialist Parachute Unit, they are all Submariners, but I have never seen the appeal of jumping out of a serviceable aircraft. Not sure if Matt qualifies as a Matlot.hinking.gif

Originally Posted By RN-Submariner:The Royal Navy (not Royal Marines) do have a specialist Parachute Unit, they are all Submariners, but I have never seen the appeal of jumping out of a serviceable aircraft. Not sure if Matt qualifies as a Matlot.

Surely they would 'deploy' out of the torpedo tube? I've seen James Bond do it!

Originally Posted By RN-Submariner:The Royal Navy (not Royal Marines) do have a specialist Parachute Unit, they are all Submariners, but I have never seen the appeal of jumping out of a serviceable aircraft. Not sure if Matt qualifies as a Matlot.

Surely they would 'deploy' out of the torpedo tube? I've seen James Bond do it!

Don't the SBS do tricky things with Subs, such as underwater evac.....sounds dodgy as hell to me....

Is this what really do at those weekly meetings, and trips away at weekends?

A man may fight for many things. His country, his friends, his principles, the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child. But personally, I'd mud-wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sack of French porn.

My 'service' career is only half as long and distinguished as yours, Pep (or should I say 'Sir'?)

Nice to see my old commision still carry's a bit of respect

A man may fight for many things. His country, his friends, his principles, the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child. But personally, I'd mud-wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sack of French porn.