This offering maybe right, or wrong, but it is one, the other, both, or neither!Blog,-Some Suttas Translated,Ajahn Chah."Others will misconstrue reality due to their personal perspectives, doggedly holding onto and not easily discarding them; We shall not misconstrue reality due to our own personal perspectives, nor doggedly holding onto them, but will discard them easily. This effacement shall be done."

I have never thought of it as anything else, and have always objected silently when people have referred to such addictions as diseases. They're nothing of the kind.They might have developed into a personal sickness, but it's a self-made one.

(In the same way I can't stand it when couples announce:"We're pregnant!"

I like it, I have only heard the we're pregnant in films and shows from america, not in real life, well only once so I felt the blokes stomach and asked if it was kicking yet!

but that asside the medical definition of a disease although doesn't include actions of will, it does incorporatte a wide array of problems basically anything wrong and it is a disease, which to the common lay person (non-medical lay person I mean) gets confusing, and off topic to what a disease may be percieved by.

My dislike for some groups is that they have members who are there for years still standing up and saying I am an alcoholic and I have been sober for 99 months now like that is some achievement that they are still an alcoholic who don't drink instead of a person, who doesn't drink it is in my mind negativly reinforcing alcohol onto someone who is not an alcoholic.

I think anything which is a learnt behaviour, based on views or copying a role model, that can be treated by comfronting the view, and relearning behaviour isn't a disease but a learning mishap or in other words a habit which isn't doing what it is thought it should be.

the Buddha said make yourself your own refuge, and spiritual friendship is the whole of the path, and groups are good at the latter providing a comunity of like minded individuals who have the same goal, but the effectiveness of the groups can not be judged if someone leaves, and a groups of the disease model may be used by some for a support group and their actual path isn't based on the idoligy of that group, but I don't think groups are good at the former.

This offering maybe right, or wrong, but it is one, the other, both, or neither!Blog,-Some Suttas Translated,Ajahn Chah."Others will misconstrue reality due to their personal perspectives, doggedly holding onto and not easily discarding them; We shall not misconstrue reality due to our own personal perspectives, nor doggedly holding onto them, but will discard them easily. This effacement shall be done."