Weaklings

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 21, 2017

I get it, AT&T Park is not a home run hitters park. But we are particularly weak in our own park. We’ve hit 25 measly bombs in a place we are supposed to know better than anyone else. The next lowest home HR total is 40 for the Pirates.

And 25 bombs wouldn’t be the end of the world if our opposition was also having trouble with power. But other teams are not having the same problems we are with knocking the ball out of the park. Our opponents have 39 dongs, 14 more than us. It’s entirely possible that we get doubled up, in our own place, by the end of the season.

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I guess so. Didn’t JT fricking Snow have 20 HRs here? He’s no roided up power guy, but really. Same with Ellis Burks. These guys weren’t super spectacular players but they managed to put up good numbers here.

As Loo noted, you pull one it doesn’t take a lot. Maybe Shaw could do some of that.
Span, btw is quietly having a season like Giants expected—.289 with .340/450/ .794 OPS. He had 40 hits in June.
That OPS btw is 60 points more than Panik and Nunez, and 150 more than Crawford and Pence.
Leadoff? No. CF? no probably better suited for LF.

But no one outside SD thought he would be hitting this well/so much better than others.

The thing killing this team in lack of quality minor leaguers that could help. The only guy that looked like he could be a player is Slater, and he’s done for the year. Supposedly there is quality in low minors, which is worth exactly nothing. The FO has gone AWOL in stocking the minor league system…

I mentioned Chris Shaw yesterday who is at Sac. He was drafted as a 1st baseman, but has been used more in LF of late. Here are his numbers, again (Sac, only – he also has played 37 games at Richmond with comparable numbers):

48 G, 186 PA, .296, .332, .522, .853. 9 HR, 13 2B, 26 RBI, 55 Ks, 11 BB (could be more selective and lower the K rate, but overall, not bad numbers). But, the point being, you are right, there is not a lot of help in the minors.

Do understand that anything in the minors (regardless of being drafted by SF or acquired via trade) is no guarantee of quality MLB play down the road. Yes, you need a solid farm, but not sure that is what is “killing this team” right now. What is killing this team right now is that most of our current roster sucks, or are having really bad years. Where the lack of quality minor leaguers is killing us, IMO, is that we have limited viable trade pieces to use in acquiring the ML pieces we need. This again goes back to my comments on the scouts. WTF is their goddamned problem. Fire all their sorry asses!

Nunie’s fuckup was the key. When he got thrown-out I knew they were fucked, and it was going to be another loss. I fucking bailed after the 7th…pathetic.

Loved xoot’s post from last night about his son, the Panda hat, etc. Great post.

And there was mention of trading Bum and Posey (and Belt) by Blade and Loo. I absolutely would do a trade IF the Giants got the right pieces in return (the suggested trade with Atlanta is a good example of a trade that I think is plausable).

But, we all know that shit is NOT happening. No way Booby and Crew have the balls to move Bum or Posey.

mrsportdude – had a great post too, about taking chances, and cleaning house to rebuild. I agree that it is probably time to consider this, but given what we have heard, there will NOT be wholesale changes in the off-season. They’re going to dink-and-dunk and make a few moves, but by and large next year’s version of our Giants will NOT look measurably different than this year’s squad.

Fire the fucking scouts and find some folks who can evaluate talent! And it may be time for Booby to go, too.

This team is no different than a stinking pile of dog shit. Correction. With a pile of dog shit I can easily scoop it up and be done with it. This team? Houston, we have problems, and there is not an easy fix…

I liked Loo’s Atl trade proposal of Bum, Posey and Belt for Freeman, Teheran and a top prospect. If you could somehow finagle two prospects in addition to Freeman and Teheran, you would have me jumping in the streets. I actually think Sabean would be licking his chops at the thought of that trade but no way in hell would Baer allow them to move the two faces of the franchise.

I think if you got two of the top 50 prospects in the country in addition to Freeman and Teheran, I think you have to strongly consider that. The salary relief in dumping Posey and Belt can’t be understated.

You are preaching to the choir, Wilco. I am with you on this one, brother. Two top prospects with Freeman and Teheran…I could not pull the trigger on that trade quick enough. As you said, I would be dancing in the fucking streets…

Tidrow is still Sr. VP of Player Personnel and Senior Advisor to Booby

John Barr is VP and Assistant GM, Scouting and International Operations (this needs a HARD LOOK), IMO. This is the guy who, again, IMO, is the primary guy responsible for the talent pipeline….WHAT talent pipeline???

The outfield situation this season has been horrendous. We know that. The FO owns that, and they’ve known for years that with a bare cupboard in the minors, outfield depth has been a major deficit. FO malfeasance on this issue…

Hola everybody. I got nothing, this team is playing so awesome. But I was able to score a nice ticket for 6$ on Stub hub. It’s Friday night, why not have some beer and watch some terribly played baseball

They have got to do something! Fans are realizing that this is a POS team and will not likely get better next year either. No more sell-outs on demand. Belt or Posey–one has to go. Bum, Cueto- -let ’em go.
What good memories that guy Loo has pictured gave us. I remember his first game. Me in my 20’s at my parent’s house listening on a RADIO!! I think he had a no-hitter until the 7th inning. hH was great from the get-go.

Another plus about Tehran is that his record would probably be better if he didn’t have the “anchor” weight of carrying the lowly Braves around his neck.

Anywho, the Giants grand plan will be window dressing and moving the deck chairs, e.g., trade the wondrous, all knowing Nunie in preparation for fat ass’s arrival; and move Strickland, so Posey’s peace and serenity isn’t affected.

“Time to sell high.” Hey no problem…put a few of them on waivers and see what response you get.

But the epic fail of Evans is inability to upgrade the OF beyond the likes of Gorkys, esp for CF. Drew Stubbs and Ruggiano are you f-ing kidding?

Loo mentioned triples alley too and that’s something else weird about this year. Craw and Belt both had double digit triples last year. I think Craw has 1. And Nunez has just as many as Hundley–0. That blows me away, the only speed guy on a team with humungo OF, and no triples in 4 months.

steward column for mercurynews.com skewered this deal pretty hard. Even Schulman, quoted in Jenkins’ column today said, “I’ve never seen so much antipathy.”

They’re replaying the Kuiper move for the guy who flubbed the foul ball with Amy. Actually is pretty funny, and he does get the guy a ball and shakes his hand.
Marketing, killing them with kindness…even the clueless.

The other way to look at the home HR totals is to note that SF pitchers have given up 70 HRs on the road. The league average HRs given up on the road is 55. Just as much of the 14 HR disparity is the fault of a pitching staff that never quite gets shit on as much as they deserve to be.

yeah he was flat out terrible behind plate. I can remember Miller just being incredulous that the prez used to have pitches that were called strikes bounce off his glove and roll to backstop. 2011 without Posey was rough.

arrggh. fricking Pads bats continue to make noise.
as Kuip mentioned the pads are dead last in BA in the NL at .232 and also dead last in runs scored.
so what I’m wondering is their BA vs. Giants pitching staff this season?

People don’t change but they do gain perspective as they age, as their circumstances change. I bet Pablo would come back quite contrite and humble. And the fans would welcome him. ATT fans are pretty forgiving and who doesn’t like a story about a guy coming home with his tail between his legs looking to re-start his life?

It was 5-1 when I went in with Mrs. snarkk for some Pad Thai and lemon grass beef at the Thai place. After that and a Singha, I come out to the car radio to 6-5. Now they’re down one. This team just finds a way to F up just about every game — every which way, but win…

well with 16 freaking hits the Pads are batting .400 tonite, with like 8 XBHs beside. Dang it they treat SF pitching like it’s Double A or something.
James thx for stats above…773 OPS has gotta be way out of line vs. what they do against everyone else.

“I’m waiting for Friday to make a decision, and the Giants are one of my options,” Sandoval told ESPN’s Marly Rivera in a text. “I have a few teams interested but I can’t make a decision until Friday.”

Agreed. Kruk is excusing Kontos for getting smoked due to recent overuse. I’ll agree with him on that a little, as i said above. Still, the Pads Pen probably isn’t exactly fresh as a daisy, and they held the line in extras…

Actually, I was thinking of Lord Haw Haw (William Joyce). Beginning in 1939, millions of Britons regularly tuned in to a German propaganda broadcast hosted by a smug Nazi sympathizer nicknamed “Lord Haw Haw.” Several men were identified with the name, but it was most famously associated with William Joyce, an American-born fascist who had spent most of his life in the United Kingdom.