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THIS WAY OF THINKING is dangerous because having physical copies is the ONLY WAY to go, Services can go out of business, raise rates or content is removed and/or never added.

Which leaves the consumer out of lock with no options and money wasted, but this misinformed person is the norm these days like all providers do not want people owning copies they are slowly by direct and indirect way to digital distribution.

And with tv providers lacking having all channels and even if did they do not have all the shows people like (older than 1995 and if do they are heavily edited) same with digital distribution.

Lack of content and edited also + low quality (blu-ray and dvd has better quality) and the individual has control over what they watch and when.

This is the same deranged reason they will not allow Set Top Blu-Ray recorders in this country.

Of course the poster I am quoting thinks Chuck is a good show, shows his complete lack of sense as that show with 99.9% of today's show stink - reality and/or scripted.

DirecTV DISH and all providers (channels included_ have gone to showing nothing but 4or5 shows on 1 channels most days and have no real lineups left and VOD (all providers) is a joke cause it has only 1/100th of 1% of all shows ever made.

This company (and all others want) to slowly destroy choice of what we can watch on our terms with only owned equipment in our own hones with no need to connect to the internet.

Eventually only the elitist will own blu-rays and dvd's and be able to watch them, if you think I am full of crap look at all the other things everyday people had access to but no longer do.

Cars made solidly (do not crunch like a pop can) this is by older cars that they can afford (30s through 70s)

Meat that is not a chemical filled mess - they have pushed up the price to clean meat and years ago every regular person would be able to buy

and the list goes on and on .......

I'm not sure what you had to eat that caused that, but I'm pretty sure you should wipe after.

"He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else."

...Do you think the average user even has their DVR connected to the internet?...

I don't know the answer to that question, but I spoke to a tech (about 4 mos ago) when a relative had D* installed. The tech stated that D* is pushing hard to have a CCK installed with every system now.

I don't know the answer to that question, but I spoke to a tech (about 4 mos ago) when a relative had D* installed. The tech stated that D* is pushing hard to have a CCK installed with every system now.

Bingo.

Not only on every installation, but on every upgrade and on every service call. Anywhere a tech comes near an HDDVR in a home with broadband, it gets connected now.

"He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else."

The concept is great, but the sound quality of internet and satellite radio is going in the wrong direction. When I listen to music, the sound quality has to be optimum or I can't tolerate it.

I would much rather they put more effort into the media sharing function so I could realiably access the GBs of full quality audio on my PC.

Blame MP3 players and kids. Most kids today actually don't like to hear all the technical parts of music anymore. There was a study done awhile ago that kids actually chose 128 and then 256 as their preferred compression size. Anything higher they stated it didn't sound right.

Most of the true lossless codecs are either proprietary or open source. This leads to them never being adapted mainstream.

I really like the addition of Pandora. I listen to music from the HD DVR about 30% of the time. Pandora hasn't changed my viewing habits but I don't listen to SonicTap as much now. I use a laptop in my living room during the day and the almost commercial free (and no DJ's!) music is perfect for me.

I am having a problem of no sound when I exit Pandora. I have to change channels for the sound to come back. That's kind of annoying as I lose the buffer.

Blame MP3 players and kids. Most kids today actually don't like to hear all the technical parts of music anymore. There was a study done awhile ago that kids actually chose 128 and then 256 as their preferred compression size. Anything higher they stated it didn't sound right.

Most of the true lossless codecs are either proprietary or open source. This leads to them never being adapted mainstream.

Even 128 sounds good on a full bandwidth connection. What I can't stand is the bit-starved audio that is being pushed through XM and web-based outlets now. I love the variety on XM but I won't renew it after this year, the quality has gone in the toilet over the last few years.

As for the music, there's not much technical part to listen to these days, so the crappy digital distribution methods are more than adequate.

If you've got the latest software for your HD DVR you will be able to use Pandora right though your TV. All it takes is an internet connection. Are you using it? Is it working well for you?

Nope. I saw that I got the new update a few days ago, so I tried it. It worked fine for the first 5 minutes, but then I had a couple seconds delay when trying to use the D* guide. That turned into a 5 second delay. Then about 10 seconds. By the time I was trying to get back into the Extras menu, I was waiting 5 minutes before my key-presses would register (almost did a RBR but didn't want to have to wait to repopulate the guide). I unlinked Pandora and everything went back to normal.

I'll probably give it another try since watching ESPNews or something while listening to music seems like it'd be appealing. I just need to carve out some time in case I'm hit with that performance glitch again.

I've just had it for a couple of days and have 2 HR20s hooked up to the main TV so I can't use it in the background but I'm glad we got it. 2 HR24s are hooked up to a second TV and I need them there for the 3D. Pandora is a good service and I will use it. Spotify has a huge amount of available music compared to Pandora.

Nope. I saw that I got the new update a few days ago, so I tried it. It worked fine for the first 5 minutes, but then I had a couple seconds delay when trying to use the D* guide. That turned into a 5 second delay. Then about 10 seconds. By the time I was trying to get back into the Extras menu, I was waiting 5 minutes before my key-presses would register (almost did a RBR but didn't want to have to wait to repopulate the guide). I unlinked Pandora and everything went back to normal.

I'll probably give it another try since watching ESPNews or something while listening to music seems like it'd be appealing. I just need to carve out some time in case I'm hit with that performance glitch again.

I would prefer Spotify over Pandora, but beggars can't be choosers.

I had the same problem on my R22, but I cleared my vavram and it solved the problem.

Its a great addition. We've used it nearly everyday since it was available. I think the audio quality is very good. The ads are not as intrusive as I thought they would be. Usually play it in the background of hockey games and will do the same during baseball season....

Yesterday I ordered a WI FI yesterday and it has Pandora. I have a Sony HD radio but the AM signals aren't clear.

THIS WAY OF THINKING is dangerous because having physical copies is the ONLY WAY to go, Services can go out of business, raise rates or content is removed and/or never added.

Which leaves the consumer out of lock with no options and money wasted, but this misinformed person is the norm these days like all providers do not want people owning copies they are slowly by direct and indirect way to digital distribution.

And with tv providers lacking having all channels and even if did they do not have all the shows people like (older than 1995 and if do they are heavily edited) same with digital distribution.

Lack of content and edited also + low quality (blu-ray and dvd has better quality) and the individual has control over what they watch and when.

This is the same deranged reason they will not allow Set Top Blu-Ray recorders in this country.

Of course the poster I am quoting thinks Chuck is a good show, shows his complete lack of sense as that show with 99.9% of today's show stink - reality and/or scripted.

DirecTV DISH and all providers (channels included_ have gone to showing nothing but 4or5 shows on 1 channels most days and have no real lineups left and VOD (all providers) is a joke cause it has only 1/100th of 1% of all shows ever made.

This company (and all others want) to slowly destroy choice of what we can watch on our terms with only owned equipment in our own hones with no need to connect to the internet.

Eventually only the elitist will own blu-rays and dvd's and be able to watch them, if you think I am full of crap look at all the other things everyday people had access to but no longer do.

Cars made solidly (do not crunch like a pop can) this is by older cars that they can afford (30s through 70s)

Meat that is not a chemical filled mess - they have pushed up the price to clean meat and years ago every regular person would be able to buy

and the list goes on and on .......

Excellent points !!! I see you got flamed and called a nut job. People do that when they want to discredit a person because they know the person is right and they can not counter their position with anything that can defeat the persons points made.

These posters here are lemmings / sheep who are too fooled by hype and marketing and the mentality of having to keep up with Jonses (getting the latest abandoning the best from the past)

They do not understand this digital distribution is just a way to make us overpay and not have control over what we paid to buy.

Well when I (and it appears you will as well) will be able to laugh at the dolts who rely on iPads / iPods / cell phones / internet connected to a TV / who get rid of their DVDs + Blu-Rays + records + old tube TVs / even computers ..... just to rely on hand held devices and digital distribution where stuff can removed at a moments notice and all you paid for is gone and you can not get it back.

The sheeple here probably also use non-stick cookware when if they had any sense they would be using with the best cookware ever cast iron cookware.. but what do you expect people do not think at all.

Excellent points !!! I see you got flamed and called a nut job. People do that when they want to discredit a person because they know the person is right and they can not counter their position with anything that can defeat the persons points made.

These posters here are lemmings / sheep who are too fooled by hype and marketing and the mentality of having to keep up with Jonses (getting the latest abandoning the best from the past)

They do not understand this digital distribution is just a way to make us overpay and not have control over what we paid to buy.

Well when I (and it appears you will as well) will be able to laugh at the dolts who rely on iPads / iPods / cell phones / internet connected to a TV / who get rid of their DVDs + Blu-Rays + records + old tube TVs / even computers ..... just to rely on hand held devices and digital distribution where stuff can removed at a moments notice and all you paid for is gone and you can not get it back.

The sheeple here probably also use non-stick cookware when if they had any sense they would be using with the best cookware ever cast iron cookware.. but what do you expect people do not think at all.

"He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else."

Excellent points !!! I see you got flamed and called a nut job. People do that when they want to discredit a person because they know the person is right and they can not counter their position with anything that can defeat the persons points made.

These posters here are lemmings / sheep who are too fooled by hype and marketing and the mentality of having to keep up with Jonses (getting the latest abandoning the best from the past)

They do not understand this digital distribution is just a way to make us overpay and not have control over what we paid to buy.

Well when I (and it appears you will as well) will be able to laugh at the dolts who rely on iPads / iPods / cell phones / internet connected to a TV / who get rid of their DVDs + Blu-Rays + records + old tube TVs / even computers ..... just to rely on hand held devices and digital distribution where stuff can removed at a moments notice and all you paid for is gone and you can not get it back.

The sheeple here probably also use non-stick cookware when if they had any sense they would be using with the best cookware ever cast iron cookware.. but what do you expect people do not think at all.