As a longtime (and justified/righteous) Ronald MacLean hater I beg to differ!

Any road which may lead to the comeuppance of said scumbag is a very good road indeed.

whenever I want to feel revolted or need to empty the contents of my stomach through my cake hole all I do is think about the first interviews he conducted with buttman when he was first appointed Pope of the NHL and was shitting all over long standing traditions. Ronald was supposed to articulate all the concerns of tradition's point of view, he was going to take Buttman to task, he was our spokesman, our hope to be heard....what happened? He left with Buttmans ass prints on his face and has been sucking up to the little yankee lawyer ever since. The lists of offense the guy Mclean has authored is long but that one for me is primo .....

As a longtime (and justified/righteous) Ronald MacLean hater I beg to differ!

Any road which may lead to the comeuppance of said scumbag is a very good road indeed.

whenever I want to feel revolted or need to empty the contents of my stomach through my cake hole all I do is think about the first interviews he conducted with buttman when he was first appointed Pope of the NHL and was shitting all over long standing traditions. Ronald was supposed to articulate all the concerns of tradition's point of view, he was going to take Buttman to task, he was our spokesman, our hope to be heard....what happened? He left with Buttmans ass prints on his face and has been sucking up to the little yankee lawyer ever since.

The lists of offense the guy Mclean has authored is long but that one for me is primo .....

Yeah, I'll never forget how Bettman destroyed Ronald in that interview.

I do not know if this should be a new topic or not as it has to do with the Sedins, Vancouver and the media. I have spent years reading the posts about the canucks. i went on TSN this morning to check the score of the Carolina game and almost all the posts were from haters. The closest thing that looks like this level of hate is the Maple Leaf Canadian rivalry but it has really been dead a long time. Maybe Boston/Montreal? It seems so many in public positions hate Vancouver. I was stunned last year to listen to Milbury take such a one sided role and be nasty about it all. He targeted the Sedins. Thelma and Louise. Then the constant yapping of the poodle named McLean on HNIC. It goes even worse with the local media from what I read. I live in NY but sometimes read the Province and if there are a group of writers more boring than that lot I do not want to know. Milbury I understand. He is American and anything not totally Yank throws them off their feed. The Sedins are identical twins, are Swedish and do not act like they grew up in Wawa dringing Xtra old stock and beating up on the local wimps. They come across as thoughtful, civilized and intelligent and if ever a group of qualities exist guaranteed to piss of our southern friends this is it. Then they have the nerve to win the scoring title two years in a row, with each brother taking a turn. They are almost locks for the HOF and will only need to win a cup to guarantee their selection. Yet they are hated on by many. I just wonder if it is the haters who are loud enough to drown out all the admirers of this level of skill? If they came from Ontario they would be national heros and icons. Instead they are subjected to a steady litany of abuse. I tell you it would not surprise me if they did not sign a new contract and ended up going home to play their last years in a country that gives them some of their due. That will be a sad day for the Canucks for sure. I enjoyed last year very much. i lived through all the bad years and ran around many foriegn countries looking to find a hockey news pre online. They were a wonderful team and not winning it all hurt a lot for all fans but it does not take away from a wonderful season when looking back. We are a better team this year and I do not see how we are not going all the way. Milbury, McLean and all the flatlanders in Alberta who seem to live and breath for the chance to hate our team are not anyone I want to emulate. At the same time this is not important in the big picture for most. I want to win the Cup but it will not shut the haters up. not for a second. Vancouver has always brought out the jealousy in the rest of Canada, but then anyone who by choice lives in the other nine provinces does not have much to brag on. Eveytime I leave Vancouver to go home to NY I feel like I failed an IQ test.

damonberryman wrote:I do not know if this should be a new topic or not as it has to do with the Sedins, Vancouver and the media. I have spent years reading the posts about the canucks. i went on TSN this morning to check the score of the Carolina game and almost all the posts were from haters. The closest thing that looks like this level of hate is the Maple Leaf Canadian rivalry but it has really been dead a long time. Maybe Boston/Montreal? It seems so many in public positions hate Vancouver.

I was stunned last year to listen to Milbury take such a one sided role and be nasty about it all. He targeted the Sedins. Thelma and Louise. Then the constant yapping of the poodle named McLean on HNIC. It goes even worse with the local media from what I read. I live in NY but sometimes read the Province and if there are a group of writers more boring than that lot I do not want to know. Milbury I understand. He is American and anything not totally Yank throws them off their feed.

The Sedins are identical twins, are Swedish and do not act like they grew up in Wawa dringing Xtra old stock and beating up on the local wimps. They come across as thoughtful, civilized and intelligent and if ever a group of qualities exist guaranteed to piss of our southern friends this is it. Then they have the nerve to win the scoring title two years in a row, with each brother taking a turn. They are almost locks for the HOF and will only need to win a cup to guarantee their selection. Yet they are hated on by many. I just wonder if it is the haters who are loud enough to drown out all the admirers of this level of skill? If they came from Ontario they would be national heros and icons. Instead they are subjected to a steady litany of abuse.

I tell you it would not surprise me if they did not sign a new contract and ended up going home to play their last years in a country that gives them some of their due. That will be a sad day for the Canucks for sure. I enjoyed last year very much. i lived through all the bad years and ran around many foriegn countries looking to find a hockey news pre online. They were a wonderful team and not winning it all hurt a lot for all fans but it does not take away from a wonderful season when looking back.

We are a better team this year and I do not see how we are not going all the way. Milbury, McLean and all the flatlanders in Alberta who seem to live and breath for the chance to hate our team are not anyone I want to emulate. At the same time this is not important in the big picture for most.

I want to win the Cup but it will not shut the haters up. not for a second. Vancouver has always brought out the jealousy in the rest of Canada, but then anyone who by choice lives in the other nine provinces does not have much to brag on. Eveytime I leave Vancouver to go home to NY I feel like I failed an IQ test.

Not sure if the breaks are in the right place but I could not read it the original way.

damonberryman wrote:I tell you it would not surprise me if they did not sign a new contract and ended up going home to play their last years in a country that gives them some of their due. .

Not sure if the breaks are in the right place but I could not read it the original way.

I would be surprised if they chose to go home if they were still capable of playing at the NHL level. I truly believe that they really don't care what the Milbury's,Macleans,Cherry's of the world have to say about them.They and the rest of the franchise are committed to winning and thats the bottom line.The integrity the Sedins have is world class,top shelf,something the critics can only dream of if it was actually important to them.

The absolute worst part of the reality about how the Sedins are covered is that they would be national treasures if the were Canadian.

There is absolutely no doubt about it. We make such a bigger deal bout lesser players (i.e. Staal, Lecavelier, Nash, Doughty, Richards, Carter) and yet the Sedins are considered a couple of wimps who've never won anything.

Canadian's seem to discount any Olympic results that aren't their own (i.e. we took a bad team in 2006 so that's why we lost). And Canadians seem to be very American about how they cover hockey and think about foreign players.

I mean, we absolutely hate a Russian (or Finish) guy who celebrates his goal incorrectly but, we love it when a good Canadian kid knocks someone out with a "clean" body check.

Of course, I'm hyperbolizing a little. But, I tell you what, if the Twins were from Mimico and played for the Leafs they'd be on Crosby level.

As far as I'm concerned the CBC with its ex-Bruin contingent (Stock, Milbury, Cherry) and it PAB contingent (McLean) can kiss my ass. Though I really liked how Cherry called out McLean the other night, Cherry's alright.

The Sedins are near generational talents and the rest of the league should acknowledge that. Outside of the constant boner for the Detroit Red Wings, has any European player truly received his due from the Canada hockey media? Not really, Lidstrom, Selanne, Sundin and Jagr perhaps. That's about it.

(I'll let you guys decided what PAB stands for, no wait it stand for pussy ass bitch--that's right Ron you're a PAB)

Blob Mckenzie wrote:As for the media I've had enough of Don Taylor and B--Mac with the weak Paul Morris imitations.

Don Taylor and B Mac IMO are the poster boys of the current generation of local sports media, they lead the charge, they are a big part of the reason why the local sports media sucks around here. I can't stand B Mac's fence sitting, politically correct, milk toast approach. Zero personality and I do not care one bit about the mans opinions cause they are fucking lame. And please, somebody needs to tell Don Taylor he is not camera friendly. He makes Gary Valk look like the best looking human in broadcasting.

"I just want to say one word to you. Just one word. Are you listening? - Plastics." - The Graduate

Mondi wrote:The absolute worst part of the reality about how the Sedins are covered is that they would be national treasures if the were Canadian.

There is absolutely no doubt about it. We make such a bigger deal bout lesser players (i.e. Staal, Lecavelier, Nash, Doughty, Richards, Carter) and yet the Sedins are considered a couple of wimps who've never won anything.

Canadian's seem to discount any Olympic results that aren't their own (i.e. we took a bad team in 2006 so that's why we lost). And Canadians seem to be very American about how they cover hockey and think about foreign players.

I mean, we absolutely hate a Russian (or Finish) guy who celebrates his goal incorrectly but, we love it when a good Canadian kid knocks someone out with a "clean" body check.

Of course, I'm hyperbolizing a little. But, I tell you what, if the Twins were from Mimico and played for the Leafs they'd be on Crosby level.

As far as I'm concerned the CBC with its ex-Bruin contingent (Stock, Milbury, Cherry) and it PAB contingent (McLean) can kiss my ass. Though I really liked how Cherry called out McLean the other night, Cherry's alright.

The Sedins are near generational talents and the rest of the league should acknowledge that. Outside of the constant boner for the Detroit Red Wings, has any European player truly received his due from the Canada hockey media? Not really, Lidstrom, Selanne, Sundin and Jagr perhaps. That's about it.

(I'll let you guys decided what PAB stands for, no wait it stand for pussy ass bitch--that's right Ron you're a PAB)

a really good question to ask ones self is that if the twin towers of grace, virtue, and skill were Leaf property since they were drafted would we Canuck fans recognise in them what other Canadian hockey fans seem to struggle with?

I know I've always given Iginla his due even though he is a career flame. so I like to think I would recognise just how rare the twins talents are...but man I loathe those leaves ...