'Papa' Monzano, the ruthless dictator of San Lorenzo who impaled opponents on hooks and outlawed the practice of Bokononism, lay dying in his bed and refusing Christian priests, he said "I am a member of the Bokononist faith...Get out, you stinking Christian."

Under our thin public facade, we are what we pretend to hate the most.

AverageAmericanGuy:'Papa' Monzano, the ruthless dictator of San Lorenzo who impaled opponents on hooks and outlawed the practice of Bokononism, lay dying in his bed and refusing Christian priests, he said "I am a member of the Bokononist faith...Get out, you stinking Christian."

Under our thin public facade, we are what we pretend to hate the most.

Bullshiat, like an Average American Guy would ever read that socialist lib Vonnegut.

Heliovdrake:To be fair Christianity is more in line with communism then capitalism

Well, Catholicism at least is supposed to be aligned with neither. Rerum Novarum is possibly the most under-read and under appreciated encyclical ever written. It's sort of a giant f-you to both Communism and to total unregulated Capitalism. Private property and private business are good things, but it goes on to point out that wage slavery is a sin. Kind of an interesting read actually...

I love the fact that a "living wage" is defined as enough money for a laborer to support not only himself, but his whole family in a simple but dignified manner. Try telling that to most corporations today...

NateAsbestos:AverageAmericanGuy: 'Papa' Monzano, the ruthless dictator of San Lorenzo who impaled opponents on hooks and outlawed the practice of Bokononism, lay dying in his bed and refusing Christian priests, he said "I am a member of the Bokononist faith...Get out, you stinking Christian."

Under our thin public facade, we are what we pretend to hate the most.

Bullshiat, like an Average American Guy would ever read that socialist lib Vonnegut.

Trey Le Parc:NateAsbestos: AverageAmericanGuy: 'Papa' Monzano, the ruthless dictator of San Lorenzo who impaled opponents on hooks and outlawed the practice of Bokononism, lay dying in his bed and refusing Christian priests, he said "I am a member of the Bokononist faith...Get out, you stinking Christian."

Under our thin public facade, we are what we pretend to hate the most.

Bullshiat, like an Average American Guy would ever read that socialist lib Vonnegut.

NateAsbestos:AverageAmericanGuy: 'Papa' Monzano, the ruthless dictator of San Lorenzo who impaled opponents on hooks and outlawed the practice of Bokononism, lay dying in his bed and refusing Christian priests, he said "I am a member of the Bokononist faith...Get out, you stinking Christian."

Under our thin public facade, we are what we pretend to hate the most.

Bullshiat, like an Average American Guy would ever read that socialist lib Vonnegut.

I have, and I find it ironic that he's referring to Bokononism, which was a made-up religion designed to be an actual "opiate of the masses" for the people of San Lorenzo in Vonnegut's novel.

Look at the date on the article. This was posted on christianity section of reddit earlier today and it was pointed out by many that he recanted a few months later. I'd link to that article but the whole post was deleted for being wrong and a waste of everyone's time.

DrunkWithImpotence:Heliovdrake: To be fair Christianity is more in line with communism then capitalism

Well, Catholicism at least is supposed to be aligned with neither. Rerum Novarum is possibly the most under-read and under appreciated encyclical ever written. It's sort of a giant f-you to both Communism and to total unregulated Capitalism. Private property and private business are good things, but it goes on to point out that wage slavery is a sin. Kind of an interesting read actually...

I love the fact that a "living wage" is defined as enough money for a laborer to support not only himself, but his whole family in a simple but dignified manner. Try telling that to most corporations today...

So a Catholic document from 1891 is supposed to speak for all forms of Christianity?

I'm sure that the Orthodox, Mormons, Anglicans/Episcopals, Jehovah's Witnesses, Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, and Lutherans will be so happy to know that their position on economics and politics is firmly and decisively settled by something Pope Leo XIII said 122 years ago.

Or you know, that could only be binding on one denomination. I know the Catholic Church likes to claim it's the only valid form of Christianity, but an awful lot of Christians aren't on board with that claim.

Silverstaff:DrunkWithImpotence: Heliovdrake: To be fair Christianity is more in line with communism then capitalism

Well, Catholicism at least is supposed to be aligned with neither. Rerum Novarum is possibly the most under-read and under appreciated encyclical ever written. It's sort of a giant f-you to both Communism and to total unregulated Capitalism. Private property and private business are good things, but it goes on to point out that wage slavery is a sin. Kind of an interesting read actually...

I love the fact that a "living wage" is defined as enough money for a laborer to support not only himself, but his whole family in a simple but dignified manner. Try telling that to most corporations today...

So a Catholic document from 1891 is supposed to speak for all forms of Christianity?

I'm sure that the Orthodox, Mormons, Anglicans/Episcopals, Jehovah's Witnesses, Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, and Lutherans will be so happy to know that their position on economics and politics is firmly and decisively settled by something Pope Leo XIII said 122 years ago.

Or you know, that could only be binding on one denomination. I know the Catholic Church likes to claim it's the only valid form of Christianity, but an awful lot of Christians aren't on board with that claim.

It's just as fair as when the enlightened Fark Atheists paint all Christians with the same brush.

DrunkWithImpotence:Heliovdrake: To be fair Christianity is more in line with communism then capitalism

Well, Catholicism at least is supposed to be aligned with neither. Rerum Novarum is possibly the most under-read and under appreciated encyclical ever written. It's sort of a giant f-you to both Communism and to total unregulated Capitalism. Private property and private business are good things, but it goes on to point out that wage slavery is a sin. Kind of an interesting read actually...

I love the fact that a "living wage" is defined as enough money for a laborer to support not only himself, but his whole family in a simple but dignified manner. Try telling that to most corporations today...

de_Selby:DrunkWithImpotence: Heliovdrake: To be fair Christianity is more in line with communism then capitalism

Well, Catholicism at least is supposed to be aligned with neither. Rerum Novarum is possibly the most under-read and under appreciated encyclical ever written. It's sort of a giant f-you to both Communism and to total unregulated Capitalism. Private property and private business are good things, but it goes on to point out that wage slavery is a sin. Kind of an interesting read actually...

I love the fact that a "living wage" is defined as enough money for a laborer to support not only himself, but his whole family in a simple but dignified manner. Try telling that to most corporations today...

I love you.

The Church takes alot of shiat on fark, but the fact remains that a "living wage" is one of the fundamentals of the faith.

/Church also has no problem with evolution, etc., and in fact takes the official line that by definition there can be no conflict between science and religious beliefs.//Also, party line is that 'faith' is a gift. You do the best you can, believe what you can, and that's good enough.

Silverstaff:DrunkWithImpotence: Heliovdrake: To be fair Christianity is more in line with communism then capitalism

Well, Catholicism at least is supposed to be aligned with neither. Rerum Novarum is possibly the most under-read and under appreciated encyclical ever written. It's sort of a giant f-you to both Communism and to total unregulated Capitalism. Private property and private business are good things, but it goes on to point out that wage slavery is a sin. Kind of an interesting read actually...

I love the fact that a "living wage" is defined as enough money for a laborer to support not only himself, but his whole family in a simple but dignified manner. Try telling that to most corporations today...

So a Catholic document from 1891 is supposed to speak for all forms of Christianity?

I'm sure that the Orthodox, Mormons, Anglicans/Episcopals, Jehovah's Witnesses, Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, and Lutherans will be so happy to know that their position on economics and politics is firmly and decisively settled by something Pope Leo XIII said 122 years ago.

Or you know, that could only be binding on one denomination. I know the Catholic Church likes to claim it's the only valid form of Christianity, but an awful lot of Christians aren't on board with that claim.

I only said that because the Pope can not be expected to speak for every "Christian" out there... there are many other good sects, but there are also assholes like the WBC, and the people who carry signs saying "GOD HATES XYZ".