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Re: Have access to 100 deeps with frames; need your thoughts

Well, here's an update;
I went and picked up these deeps, and there are exactly 130 of them, all with frames, plus 20 solid bottom boards, and 20 telescoping covers, all for FREE (minus the $50 in gasoline to go get them). I am looking at it all, and yes, I am thinking I will just burn the frames. It would take most of forever to sterilize 1300 frames! there are alot of dry-rotten and just bad like someone predicted earlier. I can get 1300 deep frames from Mann Lake for right about $3000. Does anyone else know of a cheaper place?

Re: Have access to 100 deeps with frames; need your thoughts

Pierco have not worked very well for me. They tend to warp and maybe from my waxing of them. If you don't put them in with the bow the same way, bees will bill cross comb between the adjacent foundation. So they are a pain remembering the bow direction.

If you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got!

Re: Have access to 100 deeps with frames; need your thoughts

WB

Have you ever used plastic frames before? Before you purchase 1300 of them you might want to ask around especially if you are used to wooden frames. There are numerous posts on here about the ML PF series (plastic) frames. They have their quirks, some of which you might not be thrilled about. Sounds like you got a good deal on the boxes, don't scrimp on the frames because of a few bucks.

"Tradition becomes our security, and when the mind is secure it is in decay".....Krishnamurti

Re: Have access to 100 deeps with frames; need your thoughts

UPDATE:

Well folks,
I decided to keep them all for my own use. I will buy new wooden frames from ML as I need them. I have developed an efficient "system" for scraping, firing, and painting the supers. The kerosene method that Sqkcrk described in one of the first couple posts works fabulously. Thanks everyone for your input so far; I really appreciate it. It will cost me around $8,000 to complete about 42 double-deep hives with bees, if I buy all of it new (package bees also). So there's an update.

Re: Have access to 100 deeps with frames; need your thoughts

Thanks Jim, where is that data published? I'd like to read it.

Ben is talking about hive components with no sign of AFB, so any of these methods are probably overkill.

The flash point of wood is about 450 degrees F..... ? I'm planning on using the wax dipping process, if its a bad idea, I will reconsider, but I want to see a scientific paper before abandoning the idea.

Re: Have access to 100 deeps with frames; need your thoughts

Originally Posted by Lburou

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The flash point of wood is about 450 degrees F..... ? I'm planning on using the wax dipping process, if its a bad idea, I will reconsider, but I want to see a scientific paper before abandoning the idea.

I hope you are sure about the flash point of wood ...and how about the paint on the wood ???

Re: Have access to 100 deeps with frames; need your thoughts

Originally Posted by Jim 134

LHot wax wont kill AFB ether it simply ENCAPSULATES it beekeepers in NEW ZELAND have excused this method as unreliable

This to me doesn't make scientific sense. If you encapsulate the spores you have essentially sterilized it. A sterilized rubber glove does not kill the germs on your hands but prevents the transmission of the germs to someone else.
This is an important fact, you cannot guarantee sterility by treating with radiation all you can do is guarantee that something went through a sterilization process (which is involved to determine power levels and exposure) - very procedure oriented.