Dude, the TKD fighter sucked. The Thai fighter was better. You act like it's a Muay Thai fighter VS the art of TKD. Like I said I'm sure there are plenty of TKD fighters that would have won. And yeah I agree the rules sucked. I still think they need a well known TKD fighter with a well known Thai fighter with legit rules. Until then it's not enough to say TKD sucks. Most of you can talk **** but it doesn't prove anything.

Read my profile, I've done TKD, with hard contact sparring, with leg kicks allowed, with boxing style punches thrown into the training. I think TKD Can and Does work...if trained properly.....the problem is that most people in here have only seen the TKD McDojangs.....hence why they say TKD sucks. The problem is that it seems that the majority of TKD clubs are crap....the good ones are a rare thing. At least in my experience.

So the question becomes - for someone looking to start MA why bother going to a TKD club that will likely suck, when they can go to a MT or Kyukushin club that likely won't suck?

If you start out in MT or KK the odds are in your favour that you'll get good training. As opposed to the odds being that you'll get sucky training in TKD.

I think how most Taekwondo people shoot themselves in the foot is by "bouncing", it's meant to keep you agile or something but they do it in such a way that you can just time it and clobber them when they're up off the ground.