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Thursday, February 11, 2010

The Fiqh Council of North America (an association of Muslims who interpret Islamic law on the North American continent) issued a ruling (fatwa) earlier this week that says Muslims shouldn't go through full body scanners since this violate Islamic rules on modesty. Nihad Awad heads the Council on American-Islamic Relations, and their purpose is to enhance understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties and to promote justice and mutual understanding.

30 comments:

If someone does not want to get body scanned then they should not fly. As long as the rule applies equally to everyone I do not see the problem. This is similar to a Burka, if someone wants to wear it at home that is their business, but if they want to wear it to a bank they should be arrested. There are reasons we want to be able to identify people and what they are carrying and the people who don't want to be identified should be treated suspiciously.

The body scanners simply do not work. On Youtube, you can see a German-language TV show (complete with English translation, if you get the right one) showing, with the manufacturer present, how the machines can easily be defeated, and fail to detect a detonator and enough thermite made with unnamed components purchased at a local drugstore to burn a hole through a plane. It's quite a thing to watch.

The supposed gain from these expensive and invasive machines is, as far as I can tell, just desperately wishful thinking. If you want to stop this material, these scanners are not the solution. If I knew what was, I suppose I'd be rich right about now.

That was a very specific test of only passive millimeter wave or teraherz beam devices. They're very new technology and produce shitty images even in "active" mode. They did not address x-ray backscatter devices in that show, which have been in use for years and produce EXTREMELY detailed images.

as blake said, its not how all scanners work.and also, i have seen demonstrations of the more precise fullbody x-ray scanners who use a diffrent display image, they don't show the operator the actualy image, only a stylized generic "body" with markings on where the scanenr found shadows.

I'm not a fan of scanners but they are part of a package needed to ensure security. And besides, aren't the actions of Muslims the reason we have scanners now in the first place?

Seriously, no scan, no fly.

I'd also add sniffer dogs in an opaque booth for everyone. If the dog reacts to the drug/explosive/chemical, off you go for detailed exams. But that is against their religion too as dogs are "unclean" animals.

I'm on the fence on this one. Despited the fact of having the body of a greek god ;) , I wouldn't feel confortable going through one of those, let alone letting my gf go through that. But they, let me tell exactly whats gonna happen:

They will start implementing those body scanners at every single major airport until one day hundreds of images that were taken from varios passangers will be leeked in the internet causing a major controversy, ultimately leading to the extinction of such device. YOU HEARD HERE FIRST!

If I want to fly, I do so with the full understanding that there are risks involved. Should we go out and demand body scanners before people get on a city bus too? Such paranoia over a single incident. Panic the gov feeds on to get more control over your personal lives. Before preparing for a step outside your house do you get dressed in full riot gear, or would you rather there be a police officer outside each residence to pat everyone down as they leave their homes. Screw it, cameras inside your home as well.

What is it that islam fears so much about the human body? I've grown up in muslim sorroundings all my life and this is a recurring issue. Women must always cover their entire body (which contradicts the beauty of "god" if such a thing exists) and men too have a certain dress code. What is it about the human body that always needs to be covered, hidden or even ashamed of. The sexual deprivation and frustration in the Arab world is prevalent and on-going. what a shame. rather than being taught to appreciate human bodies, little muslim boys and girls are forced to feel awkward, uncomfortable and indeed disgusted by the naked body.

Yes, he said "optional"; really stupid. There's no right to ride an airplane and an airline has a right to set conditions of service just like I do or anyone else does. As for those dumb enough to follow a "fatwa", not flying is a excellent solution; there is a price to pay for faith. If the gov tried to say that Muslims couldn't fly, that would be a civil liberties violation.

Better, and a lot cheaper.... All guards at All Airports should be NAKED WOMEN! MUXSLIMS, those LOW LIFE bombing mother-F**KERS think they will die and go to HELL if they see a naked woman. SO LET THEM JUST STAY HOME IN THEIR F**KING DESERT, and leave the CIVILIZED WORLD ALONE!!!!!!

WRONG!!!!!!! THEY ARE THE ONLY MOTHER-FUCKERS BOMBING EVERYTHING IN SIGHT! Body SCANS should be made madatory for everyone... You don't want to be scanned... there must be a legitimate reason... maybe a medical reason, or stay the F**K OFF MY PLANE!!!