And lo, Kano looked down upon the field and saw the multitudes. Amongst them were the disciples of Uesheba who were greatly vexed at his sayings. And Kano spake: "Do not be concerned with the mote in thy neighbor's eye, when verily thou hast a massive stick in thine ass".

Logic suggests that Scrapper, as a mod, is seeing a post we can't see, probably because of the draconian new anti-spam rules. Post probably needs to be approved before the rest of us unworthy mortals can see it.

And lo, Kano looked down upon the field and saw the multitudes. Amongst them were the disciples of Uesheba who were greatly vexed at his sayings. And Kano spake: "Do not be concerned with the mote in thy neighbor's eye, when verily thou hast a massive stick in thine ass".

Well seen as this thread as been necro'd I've read every page, didn't realise how old it was like until about 20 pages in. However it held my attention and was an interesting read, just seeing how bad and reading how bad this martial art is kept my interest. This is honestly the worst art I've ever seen.

This is a Mc Dojo in the purest sense and the fact that you can buy a black belt is absolutely terrifying. It scares me to know that a white belt could walk into there with the right amount of cash and be a legitimate teacher, teaching people martial arts and street self defense.

What scares me more is how successful this is all doing. They sacrifice practicality and legitimacy for the cash and the students will suffer from it, either wasting their time and money, becoming a deluded cultist or buying into this and getting into a propper fight, only to be seriously hurt.

Teaching like this is more dangerous than all that joint locking **** he's talking about.

I've told my girlfriend who is a white belt in Karate and a complete noob to martial arts and she's utterly baffled with the idea that they teach with having little to no sparring. She doesn't understand how you could legitimately test any of your techniques or skills without sparring. This is from a white belt who's allotted experience in any martial art is just over a month... She's not the best of martial artist given her lack of experience but even she's better than half the black belts I've seen in this art so far.

I don't understand how any of these students could even defend it. After hearing all the **** from god knows how many legitimate martial artists here and everywhere else. You'd think they'd take this information and use it and possibly seek out somewhere that as legitimate training, hell take up TKD I imagine you may be able to convert to that style fairly quickly given the similarities and at least most TKD places actually spar...

the only reason I signed up to this ghastly website is because there is no other way for me to express the offense forced upon myself. I am a practioner of CHOI KWANG DO (2nd degree black bvelt, 17 years old). i am a firm believer of allowing peoples opinions and respectinig them, something CKD has taught me through is traditional martial art values (Honesty, humility, integrity, gentleness, perserverance, self control and nbreakable spirit and RESPECT.) The latter- respect- is evidently what a lot of you do not possess, as martial artists our aim is to become the greatest humans we can be, however your crude and disrespectfull comments are all in ignorance. if you have studied CHOI and found it not the violent and uncultured taste you prefer then so be it, that s your choice. however CHOI is designed for all in mind and with ages from 3-80 and combat and self defense and personal development. HOWEVER howmany of you have trained in this discipline? i doubt very few if not none of you have. I do not insult any other form of martial art i havent trained in, because as a martial arts i can up hold respect, honour and deccency. some of you guys are really the epitome of gross, are you not ashamed to callyour selves martial artists? Pil Seung to Choi Kwang Do.

Scrapper has covered most of this better than I could, so I'll just add this one thing, on the off chance that you ever come back and post again (which seems less likely with each passing hour):

A martial art cannot make you a respectful, honorable, or decent person. You choose to be respectful, honorable, and decent, or you choose not to. CKD has you right where it wants you: you give it credit for every redeeming quality of your personality, which means that you have no choice but to go on paying for it.

A martial art cannot make you a respectful, honorable, or decent person. You choose to be respectful, honorable, and decent, or you choose not to. CKD has you right where it wants you: you give it credit for every redeeming quality of your personality, which means that you have no choice but to go on paying for it.

You know, maybe it's just coincidence but I find most people that claim that martial arts are supposed to mak or teach you to be a respectful, honorable and decent person often end up being arrogant disrespectful twats and that are the first to start with the passive-aggressive insults and high horse comments.

Often unable to see the irony in saying "Your martial art is weak and worthless and not a proper martial art cause it doesn't teach honour, respect" and the such.

Been to a good few martial arts gyms in the passed, some good, some bad. The only philosophy I was ever taught was more on the lines of "Please don't take what you've learned here to go about punching people in the face every time you get a bit upset" or "I'd rather you use this stuff to defend yourself rather than going about bullying people" other than that, they spent most of the time in the gym teaching us to throw punches and kicks...