Skeptical PEer

Skeptical PEer

Well a little about me I guess: I’m Eric, 26 US Army Veteran from New Orleans, LA but I live in the Philippines. I’ve been reading about PE and phalloplasty for the past 2 years now. I had finally decided to go ahead with phalloplasty surgery, but because of my current location and my lack of motivation to return to the US for the surgery I’ve decided to try PE first since I’m not visiting the US until April 2017. I figure with 7 months of PE if I do not experience any gains I’ll go ahead with my surgery with one of the doctors I’ve chosen.

I must admit I’m VERY skeptical that PE will really work, but I’m trying to shift my paradigm to accept it may work. As a recreational bodybuilder I know proprioception is a very important part of building muscle and I’m going to take the same approach to PE.

I’ve already begun a routine similar to the one posted in the newbie section.

The best advice I can give you is to postpone your surgery and try PE. There are many people that have tried surgery and ended up maimed for life. Even if the surgery is successful, the implants don’t last forever, and you will probably have to take them out at some point. Will that surgery be successful too? Want to gamble twice with your dick?

We counsel people to start slowly with an exercise-only (newbie) routine; a link to it and other helpful pointers can be found by clicking on the FAQ button at the top of the page.

As you skate around the website, you’ll see a lot of experienced people sharing what equipment they like best, and which techniques work best. If you use good technique, warm up your penis before you start, and are patient and persistent, you’ll see gains. You won’t gain 6” overnight, but many, many people see gains of 1” in length and 1/2” in girth with persistent effort. Stick with it for a few years, and gains of 2” are possible.

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Good luck with your journey!

Live long and prosper.

09-28-2016, 06:27 PM

BigBootyFan

I hate to break it to you, but 7.25” is big. Not quite run for the hills big but will put you in the league with most porn stars.

You should have no problem hitting your flaccid goals, I’ve surpassed mine. To put your erect goals in perspective; there’s not a single pornstar with the stats you’ve listed. That is definitely “run for the hills” big. That size will get you rejected on site from a lot of women.

4/16 BPEL 7.2 MSEG 6.0

1/17 BPEL 7.75 MSEG ~6.2 BEG 6.75

Size anxiety is the mere response to viewing other males as a threat and the corresponding jealousy it causes. Realize that your feelings are a response to a perceived threat and the anxiety will disappear. My log: Big Booty Extravaganza (and Log)

09-28-2016, 10:57 PM

8x6Dream

First off welcome to TP. I think there are a lot of similarities between PE and bodybuilding. I think you have an advantage in that aspect. Both take focus, having correct form, consistency, and time to reach your goals. Remember to use constant heat for maximum expansion while doing PE.

I agree with what Ernie posted above that you’re not 100% guaranteed that the surgery will work. Atleast if you try PE and it doesn’t work for you (not saying it won’t) you will still have a working penis. I recently started PE myself, and so far I’ve seen good gains in flaccid length, not yet in EL or EG but like I said I’m barely getting started too. I believe consistency is key in PE also listen to your penis and don’t try to overdo it or you might get injured or see a loss in EQ.

Start: 1/22/13 NBPEL 5" EG 5.25"

Short Term Goal NBPEL 6" EG 5.5"

Goal NBPEL 7" EG 6"

09-29-2016, 04:22 PM

dtwarren1942

Hey Deepwtath!

Welcome to Thunders.l

Your size is already above average so taking a risk with an operation may not be worth it. Also, your goals are somewhat unrealistic. Even a 2” gain in length will take several years to achieve and even that will take a lot of dedication and consistency. However, any gain would be a plus.

It is always recommended to start with a beginners routine and continue with it for 90 days or until you stop gaining. Start slowly and build up to the full routine over a few weeks.

Jelq with an erection level between 40 and 70%. When stretching, grab your shaft about one inch below the glans and do not pull too hard, just enough to to feel a slight stretch. Let your PIs be your guide as to how hard to peruse your routine.

Dont forget to take good starting measurements and photos so you have a solid base to compare your gains to.

PE safely and good luck with your endeavors.

Start 11/09 BPEL: 5.5", EG: 4.4"

Current. BPEL: 6:4", EG: 5.5"

09-29-2016, 04:32 PM

dwp93

Originally Posted by dtwarren1942

Hey Deepwtath!

Welcome to Thunders. L

Your size is already above average so taking a risk with an operation may not be worth it. Also, your goals are somewhat unrealistic. Even a 2” gain in length will take several years to achieve and even that will take a lot of dedication and consistency. However, any gain would be a plus.

It is always recommended to start with a beginners routine and continue with it for 90 days or until you stop gaining. Start slowly and build up to the full routine over a few weeks.

Jelq with an erection level between 40 and 70%. When stretching, grab your shaft about one inch below the glans and do not pull too hard, just enough to to feel a slight stretch. Let your PIs be your guide as to how hard to peruse your routine.

Don’t forget to take good starting measurements and photos so you have a solid base to compare your gains to.

PE safely and good luck with your endeavors.

Pumping doesn’t feel like PE. It feels more like sex, it’s fun, and I enjoy it very much. I wouldn’t mind doing this for the next few years, or even my whole life, and I probably will. Give me about 5 years, and I’ll be bigger than OG MUDBONE!

09-29-2016, 07:03 PM

ehlolol

In your signature, there is”(…) but I’m gonna PE the shit outta this thing”

I smell overzealousness… be very careful!Thats the #1 path to injury.PE is not safe. Be careful.If you overdo it, dont listen to your body, dont rest, … you can actually break it!This is a very delicate matter + you got only 1 dick.Furthermore, your goals are ridiculous, even mandingo is not that big!Reconsider your goals, de-porn your brain first!

Edit: Aim for 8x6 first, then have sex for a few months and you will see whether you want more since many woman will even have problems with that.Perhaps 8.5x6 but that is clown size! (No offense to any other clown sized brethren!)

In your signature, there is"(.) But I’m gonna PE the shit outta this thing”

I smell overzealousness.. Be very careful!Thats the #1 path to injury.PE is not safe. Be careful.If you overdo it, don’t listen to your body, don’t rest, .. You can actually break it!This is a very delicate matter + you got only 1 dick.Furthermore, your goals are ridiculous, even mandingo is not that big!Reconsider your goals, de-porn your brain first!

Edit: Aim for 8x6 first, then have sex for a few months and you will see whether you want more since many woman will even have problems with that.Perhaps 8.5x6 but that is clown size! (No offense to any other clown sized brethren!)

I’m not doing it for women anymore, they’re not worth it! I’m doing it for myself now. I just wanna beat that muddafucka OG MUGBONE, and wipe that smirk off his stupid face which he has in every fuckin video.

09-29-2016, 07:35 PM

thoughtfulgold

Originally Posted by dwp93

I’m not doing it for women anymore, they’re not worth it! I’m doing it for myself now. I just wanna beat that muddafucka OG MUGBONE, and wipe that smirk off his stupid face which he has in every fuckin video.

You do know OG Muggbone is the most famous fake porn star there is, right? I mean his tool is literally assembled. The cum loads and the Force with which they issue forth in streams thicker than Cheese Whiz…he’s no role model. It’s why he never makes a porn top ten list.

You do know OG Muggbone is the most famous fake porn star there is, right? I mean his tool is literally assembled. The cum loads and the Force with which they issue forth in streams thicker than Cheese Whiz.he’s no role model. It’s why he never makes a porn top ten list.

He’s literally the porn boogeyman.

I think he’s dead now, so I’m thinking of replacing him - Og Mudbone version #2. I’ll do it better, don’t worry.

09-30-2016, 04:45 PM

dwp93

OMG!! I felt like OG MUDBONE when I came out of the tube! This shit is so fuckin good!

10-04-2016, 02:57 AM

Deepwrath31

Originally Posted by BigBootyFan

I hate to break it to you, but 7.25” is big. Not quite run for the hills big but will put you in the league with most porn stars.

You should have no problem hitting your flaccid goals, I’ve surpassed mine. To put your erect goals in perspective; there’s not a single pornstar with the stats you’ve listed. That is definitely “run for the hills” big. That size will get you rejected on site from a lot of women.

I’m married and used the stats off our favorite dildo that we are both able to use. The dildos actually 7in girth, but I figured that was really far reaching. Pornstar cock IS the goal. If I get a couple inches of PE and plateu surgery can always push the last inch or so.

I appreciate the responses and pointers guys. I am “overzealous” a little bit, but I’m well aware of my body’s limits from bodybuilding so I probably do more than the average newbie. I must say I started about a month ago and I may come around to this whole PE thing. I’m going to wait for Nov1 before I do an official measurement, but I notice I have a better hang most days if I’ve jelqed.

The only thing that sucks is when I lay on my stomach to get a massage, which is 3x-5x a week, it then shrinks back to ridiculous small mode, until I stand up again and give it 2-3 tugs outward, which sucks for me because most of the masseuse in Asia love to take a peek and sometimes offer a helping hand.

I’ve also encountered 3 lig pops since I started. I must say these scare the ever living shit out of me, BUT I am certainly on the side of the debate I’ve found that believes they lead to gains. I’m very slow while doing downward stretches because I didn’t want another lig pop; however, on my last stretch session while pulling slow I encountered one. It was really strange because I was pulling slow enough that I couldn’t stop it but was able to watch and right after the pop I was certainly able to pull maybe 1/8 more outward?

On another note: my goal was combined PE & surgery. However, being much LESS skeptical now I will revise to my dream goals and PE goals separate. If I’m able to get about a 6.25MSEG I won’t contemplate surgery anymore. Same with if I get 8.5BPEL. I’m also working on cutting right now to lose some body fat and get rid of my fat pad. If I do this and have a better EL I probably won’t care to get even 8.5BPEL. I’d probably be ok with 8in. Girth is pretty much the main goal though. I’m as concerned with length although I do hope to add an inch or so.

Thoughtfulgold a link to before and after picture would be awesome. I’ve read your thread and will likely implement some of it in the future. Thanks for sharing your experience.

The plan is to continue newbie routine through Nov1 after which I will switch routines to confuse the penis, just like a muscle, and I believe I’ll add V-Stretches and pumping.

**Also a personal note: I know everybody says don’t jelq at 100%, but I feel any effect unless its 70%-100%. Of course I listen to my body and when I jelq at those rates I don’t grip it like I’m swinging a baseball bat. I find that after a good workout I have similar, but not the same, soreness as when I get a good workout in at the gym. THIS is the only time I’ll get some flaccid jelqs and very light stretching in the next day just like I would for muscle recovery. Seems to be working so far. Can’t wait for Nov1 measurement.**

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