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Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

Originally Posted by Serenity

Beyond disgusting. These whackos should be condemned. People do not have the "right" to endanger others with their beliefs, regardless of whether it is their own children.

They are no different than the bat **** crazy religious extremists over in the Middle East who make poor decisions that encourage and manipulate their children to participate in activites that they know will see them end up dead.

Fine, then Muslims and Jews should stop mutilating their children with circumcision, amirite?

Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

but they have the religious freedom to believe that prayer heals
and their religious beliefs direct them to prayer for healing instead of medicine
why do your beliefs trump theirs?

Yes, they have the religious freedom to believe that prayer heals, just like they have the religious freedom to believe that if they plunge a knife into a random stranger's heart, it won't kill them. That doesn't mean they have the right to act on those beliefs.

There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

Well if she really believes that, then why is it OK for Jewish parents to cut of part of their kid's penis?

Why are you directing that comment towards me? I don't have a penis, i'm not a Jewish parent and i've never spoken out in support of circumcision.

Originally Posted by Peter Grimm

I think it's a case of her not agreeing with this couple's particular religion, so that makes it OK to point the finger. I'm just calling out the inconsistency.

What inconsistency are you referring to? I've made one post prior to this in the thread and i couldn't be more clearer.

Originally Posted by Serenity

Beyond disgusting. These whackos should be condemned. People do not have the "right" to endanger others with their beliefs, regardless of whether it is their own children.

They are no different than the bat **** crazy religious extremists over in the Middle East who make poor decisions that encourage and manipulate their children to participate in activites that they know will see them end up dead.

You might want to take your fascination and desire to rant about Penis's elsewhere.

Re: Pa. couple face prison after sons' prayer deaths

Originally Posted by WCH

My Wife and I were commenting just last evening about the new commercials they're running during primetime. We were under the assumption one needed to be 'special' [or wealthy] to be part of their circus.

You need to be wealthy to get higher up in the church, you essentially buy your levels of whatever BS they came up with. There are 2 types of Scientologist, idiots and scammers.

You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville

"I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."