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dbSeptember 17, 2011 at 2:18 am -

Mary–don’t talk down to me. I’m not assuming anything. I’m basing it completely on your words. And you go on and on about your “gentle” tone. But you’re not fooling anyone here. Your tone may be “gentle” but your intent is not. Just go away. And you trying to guilt people into accepting the bigots in their lives because “you may need them one day” is just dishonest. The fact that you believe it’s just “sexual feelings” shows how little you know. I have a deep relationship with my partner that goes beyond just “sexual feelings” and that you refuse to see that just shows your bigotry all the more. I don’t know what you think you’re doing here but it’s not working.

dbSeptember 17, 2011 at 2:19 am -

I’m really not interested in dealing with you and your mendacity anymore.

Goodbye Mary, I hope you can find peace despite the guilt you obviously feel for rejecting and abandoning your brother.

Bill SSeptember 17, 2011 at 11:53 am -

Her initials are MT, much like the content of her rambling comments.
Back to Rev. Pat: Why didn’t he tell the guy to ask Jesus to reverse his wife’s Alzheimer’s?

Becky (the real one)September 17, 2011 at 2:24 pm -

Mary, if my sister needed a kidney I would certainly donate it to her. If she were facing eviction I would help her out. I go to her children’s weddings and graduations and have a very good relationship with my nieces and nephews. But beyond being cordial I will not talk to my sister. I don’t want to give her an opening because, just like you in your “gentle tone” she considers my relationship of 17 years to be “just sexual” and discounts our children and our years together and the joys and suffering we have dealt with. I suspect your brother feels a similar way–why give you the opening to be a jerk? The thing is your “gentle” tone really isn’t gentler–it’s a passive agressive way to say the most cruel and thoughtless things but then when you get caught you can say “but it was with love–I was so gentle”. But, in fact, it’s not gentle it’s mean spirited and bigoted. You consider your own marriage to be a deep spiritual thing but refuse to view your brother’s relationships in the same way. You view your life as meaningful and productive but refuse to view your brother’s with any depth at all. You will claim you don’t do this and say that you’re a “gentle” person but hate with a smile is still hate. I won’t put up with it from my sister and I won’t put up with it from you. I’m taking db’s lead and this will be the last I say to you on this matter.

Becky (the real one)September 17, 2011 at 2:26 pm -

Bill, that’s a really good point. Once again here, Pat Robertson is picking and choosing which “sin” the man should commit–adultery or divorce when in reality why doesn’t he try to get God to cure the woman? Of course, God won’t do that. But it’s weird where Robertson went–why not try to encourage the man to do neither? Why not encourage the man to just take care of his needs by himself?

Paul DouglasSeptember 17, 2011 at 7:52 pm -

Bill: Robertson didn’t tell that guy to pray for his wife to be healed from Alzheimer’s because he knew nothing would ever happen. But a true buybull believin’ christian ought to be suggesting just that… if they really believed it!

Marys TouchSeptember 18, 2011 at 11:11 am -

Becky & db….okey dokey!

While you helped me understand some things, I realilze words cannot change your heart. I just care for your souls and will be praying for everyone on this website.

Mary said “How am “I” intolerant of people with same-sex attractions when I would love to spend time with you…but you won’t with me? You tell me “I’m” intolerant?”.

You may claim to want to spend time with lesbians and gays, but you insist on trying to get them to reject their sexuality – that is intolerance. Tolerance doesn’t require that we spend time with you, it merely means we allow you to be who you want to be. And as far as that goes, I’m not tolerant of you anymore than I’d be tolerant of a murderer or thief – you seek to harm innocent people and that is not tolerable.

Mary said “You say you are loving, but how is rejecting someone for their beleifs loving?”.

We are loving, loving of good people. Unlike you I don’t try to b******t people and claim I love those who are despicable.

Mary said “I just care for your souls and will be praying for everyone on this website”.

You should pray for the immoral bigot you worship instead.

DanielSeptember 18, 2011 at 1:21 pm -

Mary, I’m jumping in once for my friend Becky and then jumping out. Why do you think people would want to spend time with you when you freely admit you think they are “sinners” and when you freely admit you’re trying to win them over to your way of thinking (that they are “sinners”). Somewhere, even through your religious ferver you must see that spending time with someone who thinks you’re a “sinner” isn’t really something most of us want to do. Especially when you’ve shown through your posts here that you’re not open to hearing what the person you’ve judged thinks–you just want them to “hear” your words and aren’t interested in doing any listening yourself because you’re so sure you’re right nothing will get through to you. Your “gentle” tone is all in your mind to those you’ve judged it is harsh–even if you say it with a smile and a quiver in your voice. And as Priya just pointed out–you’re rejecting people for who they are we are rejecting your for accusing us of being “sinners”. If you don’t see the difference there is no hope for you ever understanding and there’s no point in continuing discussions with you.

Becky’s sister also believes she is behaving in a gentle, loving way–but truthfully she wants Becky’s marriage to fail and that’s not loving or gentle.

I don’t expect any of these words to get through to you because you’re too much enamored of your own holiness and you then try to turn that back on the people on this site who have had to deal with people like you all their lives. Your “gentle tone” is nothing more than passive-agressive.

Priya LynnSeptember 18, 2011 at 2:41 pm -

Mary asking gay people to be tolerant of her psychological assault because gays are asking her to be tolerant of them is like the schoolyard bully saying because his victim asks for tolerance that his victim should tolerate the bully beating him.

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