Is Jesus God ? Debate

i think that is an interesting perspective. So, do you feel that personal decision and responsibility are not relevant because such things are
directly controlled by material dualistic balance?

edit: my own curiosity led me to an off topic post

So, to answer the question posed by the OP, it all depends on how one defines God. If they think it is some thing that is not real, of course the
answer will be no. If one sees all things as God, then jesus being a part of that is inevitable. And then there are all the viewpoints in
between. i am not so interested in seeing some people debate about it at length and recorded though, as if i wanted to see that, i would just go
anywhere on the internet that even has the word "god" or "jesus" mentioned

NO he is not god but rather a creator son, part of the order of michael. Before incarnating on this planet as Jesus of Nazareth, Jesus was Michael of
Nebadon, the 611,121st original concept of the Paradise Father and Son.

According to the urantia book ( urantia being the celestial name for earth)

Ummm I didn't claim to have evidence.. you Said "The other two scholars can only show evidence from a book." I assumed that meant you had some.
Apparently your own opinion is enough evidence for you...

I will have to watch this later as time doesn't currently allow long stretches of attention, but...

Based on the claims made in the bible, I do see there being a case for the divinity of 'Jesus'. However, as he never directly clarified this one
way or the other, believers are obligated to merely follow his example and worship god ('the Father') directly.

As such, I do not personally believe that worship should be given to the man known as Jesus. This fulfills the example given and requirements set by
himself, as well as avoids any issues that might arise from the possibility that he is not. We are to offer prayer and praise to god - 'Jesus' did
not ever command it for himself.

On a side note, I also believe this is a peripheral issue of little importance that believers have distracted themselves with over the centuries -
follow the example given to avoid problems as I'm sure we'll find out someday regardless.

Like I thought you don't have any evidence. When you raise your consciousness and defeat your ego someday you may be able to see you opinions for
what they are. Just opinions. I believe in you buddy I believe you can wake up prove me right k?

Polytheism. The only way they can get you to follow their extremely strange beliefs is to manufacture them for local consumption. Many religious
rituals take their timing from the local culture they overran. Hence Christmas and Easter taking over the time slots of earlier Western Pagan
beliefs.
Two other points; Why is the non-existent personage of Jesus portrayed as an Aryan blue eyed white supremacist figure when common sense would dictate
that as a Jew he would have been a brown eyed Semitic Arab.
Second point; one poster claims guidance from the KJV, what about the other versions. The original Aramaic through Greek, Latin then English. Talk
about Chinese whispers.
So no he is not God. Primarily because he never existed or primarily because there is no God(s). Well you pays your money and makes your choice on
that one!

Each person has the power to do what they please. Jesus only came down to help us understand the cosmic laws of the universe so that one day we TOO
can become ONE with god, creator, the source...whatever you want to call it.

As far as materialism goes...yes our technology has the higher grip. and so does dependency

The Urantia book great. I must admit when i picked it up ten twelve years ago it was far beyond me, i came into contavt with this book again about 3
years ago and i admit the first 400 pages was very confusing and boring (somewhat), but if i didnt read those first 400 pages i would have been lost
for the rest of the book. It completly changed alot of views i had on jesus before i read it. and the funny thing is i never looked at him as god but
man mad into god...i now know these impressions of jesus was immature.

The Urantia book great. I must admit when i picked it up ten twelve years ago it was far beyond me, i came into contavt with this book again about 3
years ago and i admit the first 400 pages was very confusing and boring (somewhat), but if i didnt read those first 400 pages i would have been lost
for the rest of the book. It completly changed alot of views i had on jesus before i read it. and the funny thing is i never looked at him as god but
man mad into god...i now know these impressions of jesus was immature.

Read the words I type.. Not what you think I'm saying. I never said God existed. I never said the God of the Bible was God or that Jesus was God.
You implied you have evidence that God doesn't exist. I'm still waiting to see it. I'm not arrogant enough or maybe I'm not so egotistical to
exclude the possibility of God.

I dunno.. It's pretty well established that one of the accepted titles of God is I AM. The fact that the crowd picked up stones to kill him tells me
that they considered what he said to be blasphemy. I thought this was THE proof text that Christians use for Jesus divinity. That and John 1

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