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Political analysts don't think Crus or Rubio have much of a chance in Texas against Trump. Idk much about Rubio, but Cruz is not very popular here... After losing once, Cruz finally won his seat by being the lesser of two evils.

Carson should have been out caucuses ago. Kasich, sadly, may be out after March 1st. He appears to be the only sane one left. I think Rubio will pull away from Cruz, even though he is an absentee empty suit that only remembers talking points. Cruz has an eminently punchable face. He runs a dirty campaign, in spite of the smoke show of the recent firing. Most in the party are falling in behind Rubio, where most the Jeb money is going. All those people who said Obama was unqualified when he took office are now going to have to admit hypocrisy.

To me, the only question is whether the GOP figures out that Trump is going to win while they still have time to prevent it. They behaving like they haven't figured it out yet.

There aren't enough millennials and people believing everything is free to boost Sanders into the nomination. I predict either Trump vs Hillary or Rubio vs Hillary at this point. Not much of a stretch, I suppose.

As much of a trainwreck as this has been, it has been fascinating as well. It is very clear there is nobody in charge over in GOP land. When you field 17 candidates, you pave the road for the Trumps and the Cruzes to do well, both candidates that they are scared to death of.

Political analysts don't think Crus or Rubio have much of a chance in Texas against Trump. Idk much about Rubio, but Cruz is not very popular here... After losing once, Cruz finally won his seat by being the lesser of two evils.

You do realize Cruz is leading in Texas by about six points, and trump has underperformed his poll numbers in every state so far. Do you even pay attention or just hate Cruz and make stuff up?

Max: you're right... No ones in charge. Candidates campaign and voters vote. What would you prefer... A system where a bunch of party insiders get together and make sure the "right" candidate gets the most delegates despite losing the primary?

Originally Posted by murf

Dippy, may be a little harsh in this thread, but he's right...

Still mad at Bostick.

I'll be back when the moderation is reasonable. Enjoy the forum you created, Gree.

Meh, I don't seriously pay attention or hate Cruz enough to make up anything. I just repeated what the political analyst said on GMA yesterday morning. This morning they said Cruz will have to win Texas or it's the end for him. *shrugs*

Btw, I googled and now the polls say Cruz is up by eight points in Texas.
Good for him! Maybe he has a chance on Super Tuesday.

Max: you're right... No ones in charge. Candidates campaign and voters vote. What would you prefer... A system where a bunch of party insiders get together and make sure the "right" candidate gets the most delegates despite losing the primary?

Well, most of our great presidents have come through the system that way. It sounds worse on paper than it really is. There used to be at the very least, a consensus within each party that at least kept the number of candidates to a manageable size. 17 candidates is not a manageable size, hell, 7 is too many. The result is that most of what America learns of the candidates is sparsely available 30 second debate stage sound bytes. The perfect arena where the most outrageous statements get noticed, and sane people become invisible. If you want the most extreme candidates in your party to shine, this is the perfect formula. The top 3 that have survived are an carnival barker in Trump, an absentee empty suit in Rubio, and an obstructionist tea bagger in Cruz. Out of the hundreds of possible candidates in GOP, we have 3 that should be finishing in the bottom third.

The democrats have a socialist, former USSR sympathizer and a corrupt felon running. The "super delegates" that you suggest should be the firewall against voter choice are backing the felon. Just sayin.

Also, Ted Cruz is brilliant and knows more about the constitution and its importance to protecting us from government than almost anyone alive. If you want to boil that down to "obstructionist," that's fine. It's been almost sixty years since we had a president who didn't think his own power was unlimited. Bring on the obstruction.

Fwiw, I was a walker guy. Now I'll take anyone not named trump.

Last edited by Dipstik; 02-24-2016 at 04:36 PM.

Originally Posted by murf

Dippy, may be a little harsh in this thread, but he's right...

Still mad at Bostick.

I'll be back when the moderation is reasonable. Enjoy the forum you created, Gree.

Yeah, some of us still think it's important. Too few, unfortunately. I figure the republic only has one generation left. Once you elect a strongman (trump) or a socialist (Obama), it's usually too late to go back. If the president really DOESN'T want to stay within the limits of his own power, there's not much anyone can do to stop him. Also, once power is seized, you can never really take it back.

I'm just wondering how it's all going to end.

Originally Posted by murf

Dippy, may be a little harsh in this thread, but he's right...

Still mad at Bostick.

I'll be back when the moderation is reasonable. Enjoy the forum you created, Gree.

The term "socialist" is thrown around pretty randomly, conveniently forgetting the truth that any form of taxation and redistribution is by definition "socialism". All of us are socialists, it's just when someone wants to take it up a notch, they get branded with the term like it's a swear word. Most people objecting to Bernie wanting to tax the 1% to pay for college conveniently forget they are advocates of taxing everybody for their own causes, be it military, ag subsidies, or whatever their pet cause is. I am not a fan of Bernie, what he suggests will never fly, any more than Trump building a wall, but let's get real here. Our whole construct is built on a version of socialism.

Cruz, and most like him, fancy themselves as constitutionists, and that is fine. Protect gun rights, free speech etc....oh, wait, anchor babies? We must amend the constitution! They are mostly people who use the constitution conveniently to prop up their causes, until they don't. Most are pure hypocrites. Cruz also tends to confuse religion with policy. That is a dangerous tonic.

And Walker has a stellar record of taking on those overpaid teachers and firefighters, busting contracts, and no job growth. He wants to ban EPA regulation on power plants, overturn gay marriage, ban abortions, thinks $7.25 is an accurate minimum wage, and wants to gut open records laws. Awesome. I agree with some of his stances, don't believe $15 is the answer to minimum wage, but this guy has way too many issues to be in charge of anything. Wisconsin is not better for having him. The Koch brothers, of course, disagree.

You do have a point on the super delegates backing a felon. It's not a perfect system. But then 17 candidates boiling down to Cruz, Trump and Rubio is not either. And if you ask most voters about all this choice, most will wonder how the hell we got here with these three, me included.