Seems like we haven't heard anything on the captive ball wireform bending issue in a while. Is the design any different on the recently-delivered LEs? I have a premium coming and am wondering whether this issue has been addressed by Stern or not.

Lots of issues out of the box. I'm very frustrated. The switches on the game are pure trash. PKE switches are bad. E didn't work out of the box, fixed it, and the P stopped registering 5 games later. Left ramp switch doesn't trigger most times, and I've adjusted it twice already. Pop exit switch didn't work out of the box.

Also had to lower a Scoleri target that wasn't flush with the playfield, my one way gate would get stuck up and stay. My right scoop was bent down and I had to bend it up. The ball wouldn't fit.

I also had the game lose the ball when locking a ball, collecting a super and starting We Got One on the same shot. After 3 ball searches it kicked out a new ball.

I have to say, I'm really frustrated with the cheap as dirt switches. My Tron, Spider-Man, AC/DC, and Iron Man all have much higher quality components. Stern is really cheapening these games down as much as they can, and it shows.

Lots of issues out of the box. I'm very frustrated. The switches on the game are pure trash. PKE switches are bad. E didn't work out of the box, fixed it, and the P stopped registering 5 games later. Left ramp switch doesn't trigger most times, and I've adjusted it twice already. Pop exit switch didn't work out of the box.
Also had to lower a Scoleri target that wasn't flush with the playfield, my one way gate would get stuck up and stay. My right scoop was bent down and I had to bend it up. The ball wouldn't fit.
I also had the game lose the ball when locking a ball, collecting a super and starting We Got One on the same shot. After 3 ball searches it kicked out a new ball.
I have to say, I'm really frustrated with the cheap as dirt switches. My Tron, Spider-Man, AC/DC, and Iron Man all have much higher quality components. Stern is really cheapening these games down as much as they can, and it shows.

I've got an issue that must be a code bug. Slimer will often leave after two hits. His mode is active, but he's over the city and you can't complete it. It carries over from ball to ball as well.

The other Slimer issue is that when he drags across the captive ball bracket, he registers a hit. If he's out at the start of your ball, you don't even need to plunge and he'll register his 3 hits eventually and that's that.

i've said this like 100's of times, and I think people don't know what the hell i'm talking about. They would rather throw money at mods, since mods is all they know.

Normally I would say you are right, but even the newer LE's have the lower guides. What if we do not know everything and Stern plans the streams as a mod later on. Maybe they need the lower guides as they would travel over them.

I am all for the simplest solutions like you suggested but Stern could have easily fixed this without any cost to them and they did not. That makes me think not to get my hammer out just yet.

Have you got a picture of your rails , because on my LE the rails are low , can you measure the height of the rail?
On my LE have got some issues ....... the switch on the 2 ramps don't works any time you pass in the ramp, a lot of big air ball !!!!! and insert ghosting ........

Have you got a picture of your rails , because on my LE the rails are low , can you measure the height of the rail?
On my LE have got some issues ....... the switch on the 2 ramps don't works any time you pass in the ramp, a lot of big air ball !!!!! and insert ghosting ........

I think some of the LEs shipped to Overseas still had low sitting guides. Earlier Production. The game I have has the total height of about 5mm off the playfield.

I bought the Laser Cut Cover set, just in case, but still plan on installing for appearance as well.

I think some of the LEs shipped to Overseas still had low sitting guides. Earlier Production. The game I have has the total height of about 5mm off the playfield.
I bought the Laser Cut Cover set, just in case, but still plan on installing for appearance as well.

Just measured my Pro outlane guides. 15mm to the top of them and 10mm gap between them and playfield. I installed the clear outlane covers from pinball life and have had the ball push between the outlane and plastic cover 1x since installed a month ago almost.

Here's a pic of the Slimer bug. It happens almost every time he comes down. He leaves before the 3rd hit and you can't finish the mode. There's now way to deal with it other than to start a new game and hope it doesn't happen the next time or play around it (which sucks). It continues to play the "Chase Slimer Away" music from ball to ball, but ending the mode is impossible.

Here's a pic of the Slimer bug. It happens almost every time he comes down. He leaves before the 3rd hit and you can't finish the mode. There's now way to deal with it other than to start a new game and hope it doesn't happen the next time or play around it (which sucks). It continues to play the "Chase Slimer Away" music from ball to ball, but ending the mode is impossible.

Have you tryed downloading the most recent code and reinstalling it on your game?

Ecto Goggles don't work. I'm realizing that they haven't worked, and that's why I can't finish the Slimer mode when he leaves, because a shot doesn't clear the Ecto Goggles. I thought it was just that, because other ghosts were disappearing on a made shot, but only when it hits the orbit switch, not the optos.

The optos are so misaligned that I can't get them to line up. Below is a pic. I can't it straight on, but you can still tell it's WAY off center, and the opposite side is dead center. They're so far off that even taking off the bracket underneath, shimming it every way to China and back, you just can't get the optos to line up.

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So, add that to the massive list of issues I've had, and I'm just completely frustrated with this. If my game was checked before it went out, I'd be extremely surprised. There's just too much out of adjustment and dodgy crap with it that I think the testers must have leapfrogged the game.

Well, I'm ready to call this one a lemon.
Ecto Goggles don't work. I'm realizing that they haven't worked, and that's why I can't finish the Slimer mode when he leaves, because a shot doesn't clear the Ecto Goggles. I thought it was just that, because other ghosts were disappearing on a made shot, but only when it hits the orbit switch, not the optos.
The optos are so misaligned that I can't get them to line up. Below is a pic. I can't it straight on, but you can still tell it's WAY off center, and the opposite side is dead center. They're so far off that even taking off the bracket underneath, shimming it every way to China and back, you just can't get the optos to line up.

So, add that to the massive list of issues I've had, and I'm just completely frustrated with this. If my game was checked before it went out, I'd be extremely surprised. There's just too much out of adjustment and dodgy crap with it that I think the testers must have leapfrogged the game.

That really sucks. Sorry to hear it. Please keep us posted as to what Stern does (hopefully) to make this right.

That really sucks. Sorry to hear it. Please keep us posted as to what Stern does (hopefully) to make this right.

I sent an email to Stern, and I'll check with my distributor tomorrow. Here's hoping it's a smooth process.

Edit: well, I couldn't just sleep on it, so I gave it another go. Found a cold solder joint on the opto board. Fixed that up and they worked in test. Finally found a combination of screw tightness and cardboard shims to line the optos up, and we're back in business. I fixed up the rest of my switch issues as well.

Best of all...with the opto fix, Chase Slimer Away now ends properly. As of right now, I'm at 100% operational for the first time. It's been A LOT of work since Friday, but I just played a handful of games with everything firing and it was amazing. Can't wait for after work tomorrow to really sink into it.

Had one GB smoke a flipper coil and the transistor fell off the board. Thankfully I had a transistor on hand that stern said would work, but it isn't the exact one so getting a replacement board.

I got a new pro in yesterday with the new slimer boom, and he is much stiffer and reads correctly each time. Does look a little unfinished with the red crimp connector, but if that is painted black, it would blend in. I may actually do that before putting this one out.

Only issues I've had is that I had to adjust one switch in the rollover lanes and some of my shots to the subway ramp don't seem to make it out and roll around until being kicked out of the scoop. It seems it happens more on consecutive shots when there is more speed on the ball. I have my game pitched at 7.5. I don't know if that's too steep or something.

I've noticed on my pro now, every so often (1 out 5 times) when I get a left ramp shot that the diverter kicks down into the storage facility eject, when the ball lands in the hole, sometimes it'll wobble out of the hole before the kicker knocks it out. not sure if maybe my table just needs levelling again, or of something in the process of the ball making its way down there is happening too fast and it doesn't settle nice in the eject hole. will keep an eye on it. I always felt like maybe that hole needs a piece of mylar in a few places, seems to be a bit of bare wood exposed that could break down over time.

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