Driving Women: I've been driving since the age of 12 (I was a very tall kid, w/ a cool Grandfather) and I have a whopping total of 2 tickets. The last one was in 1995, whenI had to go pick up my little bother's (not a SP mistake) girlfriend for his graduation, because he forgot to pick her up (the ticket was for 6 miles over the speed limit @ the I-25/I-225 SB Junction). The first one was for going through a stop sign, after an ice storm when I was 16, it was reduced to a Faulty Vehicle ticket, because the Judge lived in the next neighborhood and knew what the streets were like that week. My male counterparts, have had licenses removed, many times, several accidents (I was hit once by a Pinto while driving a Plymouth TrailDuster, which picked it up two feet and pushed it 8, since they were doing about 50 on a residential, a guy by the way) and countless speeding tickets. And if you think it's because I don't drive much, keep dreaming, I was an OTR truck driver for a year. Plus I have driven to Maryland & back 7 times, Baton Rouge once, Salt Lake City twice, various Wyoming locations too many times than I can count, Sante Fe 3 times, College Station 3 times & Roswell twice. Not to mention the bi-weekly trips I made when I was a truck driver to places like Texas, Idaho, Montana, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Utah & Kansas; or the weekly trips I made in HS to Woodland Park to work on a horse ranch every weekend for about 18 months.
Conclusion: Your assumptions are based on folklore and supposition, w/ no imperical data to prove your claim. So, put that in your pipe and smoke it.

It's called experiencing life. I wasn't in any shape to go to college after HS, I think I may have spontaneously combusted if I had, so I tried some other stuff. The truck driving was a good way to make great money for a short peroid to let me start college w/o signing my life away to financial aid. I lucked into this job and now they are paying for school as a benefit.

okay, I have no doubt that you're a very good driver Jen, but your argument doesn't fly with me.

Ticket counts don't show how good or bad of a driver you are. They show how lucky you are and how many times you got caught speeding. I've sped before, but I've never had a ticket, what does that say about my driving ability? absolutely nada.

Also, every female I've ever known has been able to worm their way out of tickets after they've been pulled over. Guys? Not likely.

Wrecking is also not always the clue. Many wrecks occur because someone is avoiding running into some idiot that cut them off or who wasn't paying attention (ironically it's the person paying attention that wrecks because they're avoiding the idiot in the other car). Now maybe someone else has had different experience with this, but over the last 4 weeks, I've been cut off like 10 times, almost run into 3 times, witnessed 3 people getting rear ended b/c the person behind them just wasn't paying attention, and of course I was almost backed into in a parking lot twice. How many of those were the result of an inattentive FEMALE driver? All but 2.

Ames ES Drama Program Coordinator
Girl Scout Leader
Shop Foreman & Tech Director for HS Drama Dept.
Tech Director for the Town Hall Art Center production of A Christmas Carol (long time ago)
Student Athletic Trainer in HS
Atheltic Trainer & Emergency Med. Support for the AHS Non-Varisty Football Teams for 2 Years (when my little bother (no SP error) was on the teams).
Atheltic Trainer & Emergency Med. Support for the AYL Warriors Football Team for 4 years(when my other little bother was on the team).
Softball Coach - mostly the 13-14 Girls Rec League @ South Suburban, but also 1 year of 8-9 year olds instructional league (unisex), off an on since HS.
Cook @ the Urban Peak Youth Shelter
Computer Lab Instructor @ the Urban Peak Youth Shelter.
Booster Member & volunteer w/ the AHS Girl's Swimming & Diving Team (my little sister)
Emergency Support for the Holly Park Sharks Swim Club for 6 years (also a volunteer w/ the refreshments table)
1999 AHS After-Prom Committee volunteer (my little sister).

Some of this is because there is a pretty decent age difference between me and my siblings. Jason = 4 years, Justin = 7 years & Jesika = 11 years. And yes, our folks were & are very twisted, since our middle names all start w/ J too.

I lived through this last night with two teenagers, i'm not going through this with people my own age. Zoo, i'm going to assume Chunk's doing it for the same reason QGD did it to JGOC last night, because you'll bite. Chunk, women will get angry at this kind of comment, and take it seriously, rightfully so.

Look at the statistics JD, "at fault" rates among male drivers is much higher than females. Also, just look at the insurance rates. Mine have consistently been lower than male counterparts up until I hit 30. But that's because male actuaries believe that an unmarried woman over 30 has less to live for and therefore must drive badly. And yes this is the real reason they hike the rates for unmarried women over 30. But my rates are still lower than a male under the age of 25, unmarried or married (coincidentally, married males under the age of 25 pay the highest average insurance rates).

oh, and the people who make insurance rates are wise and all knowing. these are they same people who until it was made illegal would charge higher rates if you were a hairdresser! (okay, bad example b/c that actually makes sense, but you know what I mean).

My rates are higher than anybody I know right now...I've had 0 wrecks, 0 tickets, 0 ANYTHING...absolutely 100% babybutt clean driving record...insurance rates are not an argument for me either try again.

(and your statistics don't help anything either, a male swerving to miss an inattentive female and running into someone else is still considered at fault.)

lol, this is just a fun argument. I hope jen isn't really taking all this seriously...

I grew up in a house ted by females (dad was always at work so I was stuck at home with mom and two older sisters)...so I argued this stuff all the time w/ them, just to get them to shut up (I was always better @ arguing than them, even if they knew more than me).