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AUSTRALIA WIN BY 84 RUNS

Aus 195-6: Bailey 49* - 26 off final over

England 111 all out

Australia win T20 series 3-0

England won one of 13 on tour

Reporting by

Mark Mitchener, BBC Sport

12:21:

And that's about it - if you've stuck with us throughout weeks of overnights and early starts, the way England have been playing, you probably deserve a medal. England are next in action in the West Indies at the end of this month with three ODIs in Antigua and three T20s in Barbados.

We'll be here for that - and we hope you will be. Until then, make sure you catch up on your sleep as matches in the Caribbean mean late-night finishes in the UK. Enjoy the rest of your weekend, and please don't have nightmares. It really can't get any worse than that tour...

More from Ashley Giles: "Picking the right team for the West Indies is at the forefront of my mind. I agree with Andy Flower that one [coaching] voice is better across the three teams. It's hard work - when Andy came to power, England were a bit of a shambles and I have a lot of respect for what he's done for English cricket. I wish him luck in his retirement, though I don't think it's going to be for very long."

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Bad Banjo Botherer: England's collapse against Aus goes back to that great last-wicket partnership of Ashton Agar and Hughes. Warning signs ignored.

Martin Woodhead: Come home England! You've thoroughly embarrassed yourself this tour! Sick of watching you collapse without any hint of a fight!

Ben Gould: Bravo to #bbccricket for making a terrible tour slightly more bearable with its commentary but I am just relieved it's finally all over!

England limited-overs coach Ashley Giles: "A disappointing winter after the side won the Ashes and finished runners-up in the Champions Trophy, we've taken quite a hit here. We haven't picked the squad for the West Indies yet but we'll sit down and discuss it this week. I can't knock their work ethic but we need to be smarter - we've been sloppy at times, made some schoolboy errors and we've got to be better than that. We've been three wickets down at the end of the powerplay, we've had some needless run-outs and dropped some catches, but the Aussies have out-batted, out-bowled and out-fielded us."

12:12:

It's been a disappointing final day of the tour for England's men and women.

As for the men... we mentioned, half-seriously, that when Australia reached 130-3 after 14 overs, they might have scored enough runs already. As it turned out, Australia's 195-6 was more than enough as England were rolled for 111.

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Simon F: The last eight games weren't the best of attachments to your CV when applying for the post of England cricket coach.

Gazza: I can't remember a worse tour than the current Australian one. To think some of the experts predicted a whitewash for England.

12:05:

And still Stuart Broad keeps saying England have a "dangerous" side. Dangerous for their own supporters' blood pressure, I grant you...

12:05:

More from Stuart Broad: "We have to be refreshed and train hard in the Caribbean to get in good shape for the World Twenty20.

"We have a dangerous side, so if we can gel, anyone can win the tournament. Hopefully we can build some momentum in the Caribbean. There is nothing hard work cannot sort out."

England captain Stuart Broad: "We have a two-week break at home, which will be good to get our minds off cricket. We have areas to improve, but we know we are a decent T20 side which has not performed in the last few weeks.

"If we can learn from this and push forward, we can do well in Bangladesh. We have been in Australia for 100 days, so it has been a long time."

12:03:

Australia captain George Bailey: "We've had solid starts which Cameron White and Aaron Finch have given us in all three games. It's going to be a great headache [for team selection] as there are spots up for grabs."

12:01:

MAN OF THE MATCH

Man of the match is Australia captain George Bailey for his unbeaten 49 from 20 balls.

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Matt Dawson: The nightmare tour is finally over. That winter was absolute torture!

John Davies: How can Ashley Giles be considered favourite to take over from Andy Flower? Just seen his team lose seven from possible eight.

Dennis Edwards: If Jade Dernbach's career wasn't over before, it certainly is now. A farcical way to get out. Sums up the whole tour, really.

Since they left England, it's been 104 days. During that time, England have won one competitive game - the fourth ODI in Perth. They've also lost five Tests, four ODIs and three T20s.

Even if you include the warm-up games, they only won two more games (against an Australian Invitational XI and a Prime Minister's XI), while drawing with a Western Australia Chairman's XI, Australia A, and a Cricket Australia Chairman's XI.

"England have lost by a fair distance in the Twenty20s, but there have been a few glimmers in that format. Eoin Morgan has come in and batted well, while Chris Jordan has shown promise.

"There is a lot to talk about in the Test arena, as it was not just this series. Actually, those issues came in the summer where they won but many areas had to improve."

11:55:

And if the scoring system for England's men's tour followed the same scheme as the Women's Ashes (six points for winning a Test, two for an ODI or T20), Australia would have triumphed 44-2. England would have lost the Ashes after the Melbourne Test, and won one of the nine dead-rubber matches which followed.

Tony Coco in London: Is there any chance we can play Bangladesh or Zimbabwe?

17.2 overs:

WICKET- Dernbach run out 1 (Eng 111 all out)

Can Mitchell Starc finish it for Australia? He's bowling left-arm round the wicket to the right-handed Jordan, and England's tour ends, appropriately, in high farce as Dernbach goes for a second run which was never there and is run out by half the pitch.

"If Jade Dernbach can bat as well as he talks, England have a chance."

17 overs:

Eng 110-9

Stuart Broad, the man booed throughout the tour by Aussie fans, is replaced by last man Jade Dernbach, who may well be booed by any remaining England fans inside Stadium Australia after his bowling in this series (combined series figures 11-0-141-1, you may remember). After playing and missing with a tail-end swipe, he's off the mark with a single, while Jordan shows some hints of all-round prowess with an off-driven four and a lift over cover for one.

If anyone's still counting, England need 86 from 18 balls. Not even a four every ball will do it.

Muirhead gets one to spin a foot and bowls Broad. One more wicket and the tour's over...

16 overs:

Eng 104-8

Nathan Coulter-Nile in for his fourth over, Broad pushes a single to get England to 100. Jordan finally connects with a pull for four through long leg - let's be positive, he can be proud of his bowling performance today on his England T20 debut. 92 needed from 24 balls.

Most of the England players are watching on in shock from the dug-out. Buttler and Bopara haven't even taken their pads off...

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Jason Rodwell: Eoin Morgan is the only England player in the T20 series to really make a fist of it.

Graham Cooper: This abject pile of rubbish masquerading as an international cricket team will be flying home first class. I would make them walk home.

Stuart Broad is the new batsman, strangely batting below Chris Jordan (I hadn't even had time to tell you that non-striker Jordan came in at nine to replace Bopara). The England skipper is under way with a single, and they need 97 from 30 balls. It might as well be 997 off 30 balls, for all their likelihood of scoring it.

Coulter-Nile replaces Christian, and Bopara and Bresnan pick up some ones and two, but not even a fielding mistake from the lumbering Aaron Finch, which allows Bresnan a four, is likely to change the result. Bopara steps back and drives... the ball cannons off his bat, onto his pad, and onto his leg stump where it dislodges the leg bail.

What a way to go. This tour is repeating itself - first as tragedy, then as farce. Soon it will be put out of its misery.

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Perry: Love watching the red lycra-clad power ranger sliding off the trampoline as the catches are taken so the Aussie one can climb on. You have to admire his optimism on climbing on in the first place!

13 overs:

Eng 84-6 (target 196)

Tim Bresnan is the new batsman, a single apiece for him and Ravi means England need a frankly unfathomable 112 from 42 balls.

"England are ready to go home. What they have shown tonight is pretty poor.

"They will be disappointed a tough tour has ended this way. There might be a re-think going into the ICC World Twenty20 in Bangladesh now."

12.4 overs:

WICKET- Morgan c Starc b Cutting 34 (Eng 82-6)

That's out - a clean catch from Starc at deep square leg as he dives forward. Morgan gone. Game over, pretty much. Any chance Charlotte Edwards or Sarah Taylor are still in the ground? Too late to get them to strap the pads on and show some pride for the tourists?

12.4 overs:

THIRD UMPIRE- Eng 82-5

The new batsman is Ravi Bopara, supposedly England's "finisher". I'd like to see him finish this from here... After three singles, Cutting picks up his first wicket as now Morgan perishes in the deep - the fifth England batsman to do so today. Or does he? Third umpire has a look at the catch...

The new gloves don't seem to have much appreciable effect on the Dubliner, though he does move to 33 from 18 balls with a single. Buttler goes for the big one, and becomes the fourth England batsman to be caught on the leg-side boundary - this time, at cow corner.

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Elliott Butlin: This really has been a disastrous tour of Australia. Looks like another thrashing today as well.

Tim Williams: Someone needs to tell Joe Root that the Ashes ended last month. 11 from 21 when you need to score at 10-an-over is laughable.

11.3 overs:

Eng 78-4

Cutting and Christian have alternated the last four overs from one end, it's Christian back on now with the required rate approaching 13 and a half. After a single from Buttler, Christian goes round the wicket to the left-handed Morgan who's still busy at the crease and not giving this up without a fight. So much so, he wants a change of gloves in the middle of the over...

"Whatever England tried to execute today with the ball did not work. Australia have a massive score to defend now.

They tried to bowl slower balls, but were too short. Their yorkers did not come off either - Australia have simple plans executed to a tee."

11 overs:

Eng 75-4

Maxwell to bowl his fourth over off the reel, we're yet to see young leggie James Muirhead bowl. After helping a four through the covers, Morgan swipes and the ball skims off the sandy outfield just short of Bailey at short third man, some ones and twos mean it's eight from the over and Maxwell has 2-31 from his four overs.

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Mickey Wallis: Joe Root. I am going to smash my television screen if I see you flick one more ball straight to short mid-wicket.

Sam Rosser: Unfortunately it's not just Joe Root's looks that are schoolboy at times.

10 overs:

Eng 67-4 (target 196)

Jos Buttler is the new batsman - never mind the Test wicketkeeping spot, England ought to offer him a dukedom at the very minimum if he can ramp, flick and scoop them to victory from here. He's off the mark with a single against the recalled Cutting, who's very much in the game in these past few overs. Morgan moves to 24, Buttler steps across his stumps and scoops a four over the keeper's head. We're at the halfway stage of England's innings - only 10 overs (maximum) left and the tour is over. If you're keeping count, they need 129 from 60 balls.

Maxwell in for his third over, Morgan cuts him hard and the diving Ben Cutting tries to, erm, cut it off on the point boundary but can't field cleanly and the ball squirms onto the rope. But when Root tries to emulate Morgan and go for a maximum, he becomes the third England batsman to be caught on the legside boundary. Cutting has safe hands this time while England are, erm, cutting their own throats here.

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From Richard: Apparently England have chartered a plane and fly home straight after the game tonight. Should be a fun flight... A few drinks... hopefully a few of the players' kit bags go missing for a season or so.

8 overs:

Eng 53-3 (target 196)

Three more singles, so it's 10 from Christian's over, but the required rate is approaching 12 - England need 143 from 72 balls.

Morgan and Root push Maxwell around for ones and twos, while Root is possibly fortunate to survive an lbw appeal while reverse-sweeping - the ball-tracker indicates it would have hit the stumps. Morgan rounds off the over by launching the off-spinner for six over his head and into the England dug-out, where a member of the support staff takes the catch.

Now, I always like to keep you posted with as much information as possible, but I wonder whether putting the England target in brackets is a waste of a few keystrokes...

6 overs:

Eng 31-3 (target 196)

Ben Cutting, now fully worthy of all-rounder status, comes on with his right-arm seam, just after taking that catch. There's a brief delay while the umpires determine whether the batsmen crossed on the catch - turns out they didn't, so it's Root to face. Root punches a four past the diving mid-wicket boundary fielder who can only push it onto the rope. A single brings new batsman Eoin Morgan on strike, he's off the mark with a careful single. Root chops the ball straight to a fielder and Morgan has to dive back into his ground after backing up quite a way. Just the 165 needed from 84 balls, then.

A canny move by Australia, this - turning to spin in the shape of Glenn Maxwell, as with two new batsmen in they could whip through a few overs here. But Stokes connects well, guiding the off-spinner through the covers for four before taking a single wide of mid-on. Root adds a single, then Stokes perishes as he aims a big hit and the ball flies off a leading edge and he's caught at backward point. Dismal.

"You have to say that was thoughtless batting. There was a massive space out there at deep-mid wicket, but he shot into the same place as Luke Wright.

"Australia do not lose wickets early on in their T20 innings. England have not found the right formula at the top of the order."

3.3 overs:

WICKET- Hales c Muirhead b Coulter-Nile 6 (Eng 19-2)

Hales lofts Coulter-Nile over the covers for four, prompting some acrobatics from the pitchside gymnasts (which seem to have replaced dancing girls as T20 entertainment of choice for this series). He then lifts another catch to deep square leg like his opening partner. No doubt prompting some acrobatics from Aussie supporters everywhere.

3 overs:

Eng 15-1

Left-hander Ben Stokes is the new batsman - his first ball is down the leg side and four leg byes result.

And Jade Dernbach is currently trending on Twitter in the UK. Perhaps BBC Radio 5 live's Fighting Talk are doing the "Defend the Indefensible" round?

Starc strays with a wide, Hales - the number one-ranked T20 international batsman, according to the ICC, for now anyway - knocks a single. Wright smacks a full toss hard and straight but Starc fields well off his own bowling... and it's all over for the Sussex man when he chips a catch straight down deep square leg's throat.

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Steve in Stockport: The wife has just asked me if England will win. I replied that Red Rum has more chance of winning this year's Grand National and Shergar of winning this year's Derby.

2 overs:

Eng 9-0

Nathan Coulter-Nile, who's had a pretty good limited-overs series with the ball, takes the second over, and he's right on the money against Wright with five dot balls before dropping one in too short which Wright hooks down the leg side for four.

So then, just under 10 an over needed. Mitchell Starc, left-arm quick, takes the opening over, and it's a moderate start as Wright and Hales exchange singles before the Sussex man knocks a two off his legs and clips a single off the last ball.

10:32:

The players are ready to resume - Alex Hales and Luke Wright ought to be familiar with playing on this ground from the Big Bash, Wright helped Melbourne Stars to a victory here just after the turn of the year. (The opposition were Sydney Thunder, only one win all season... sound familiar?)

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Jim Clack: Unbelievable how much vitriol there is for Dernbach here. Did I say unbelievable? I meant understandable.

Ant: Seeing some comments, for Dernbach's sake, I hope his data roaming is off in Oz.

Gibbs: Whoever it may be that replaces Flower, please let them see sense and never pick Dernbach again.

10:28:

Another stat for you - England have scored 196 or more on seven occasions in T20 international cricket. Four of those were batting second (all of them unsuccessful chases), and one of the others was against Afghanistan (no offence, guys).

England Test batting coach Graham Gooch on Sportsweek earlier today: "Andy Flower is an honourable man with great values and discipline. Everyone respects him for the way he goes about his work and the attention to detail.

"He has been England's anchor over the last five years. He is a supreme individual in terms of dedication to the task, is very passionate about winning matches for England.

"This last tour was very disappointing, but he should be remembered for leading England to the top of the cricketing world. He is a great man and it's very sad that he has left the helm of English cricket."

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Tim Williams: Why do we have to see more of Dernbach. The guy has always been miles out of his depth every time he has played at this level.

Si Lomas: Jade Dernbach figures in series 11 overs for 141! That is beyond useless, why do they continue to pick him?

10:15:

So, Bailey went 466442 off that Dernbach over - he finishes with an unbeaten 49 from 20 balls. Dernbach, whose first three overs "only" cost 23, finishes with 0-49 from his four overs, for series figures of 11-0-141-1.

Another ball, another four, this time whacked through extra cover as Bailey has Dernbach on toast. Last ball, Bailey gets down on his knees as he tries to force the ball through third man, comes back for a second run, is he going to be run out? Nope - Buttler collects the ball but misses with his first attempt to take the bails off, and second time around, Bailey is home and dry.

19.4 overs:

Aus 189-6

Bailey easily reads the attempted yorker from Dernbach - so obviously telegraphed it almost came with a change-of-address card delivered by his butler - and helps over mid-wicket for six. The fourth ball is bashed through extra cover for four - 4664 so far this over.

19.2 overs:

Aus 179-6

Bailey clubs Dernbach for four wide of long-on with a cross-batted baseball shot, then launches another slower ball for six over long-off. Maybe he could try out for a Major League team? My Astros could do with a few hitters...

"It will be a really tough chase for England as the pitch slows up as the night goes on."

19 overs:

Aus 169-6 (Bailey 23*, Wade 19*)

Wade and Bailey help themselves to singles, while the Aussie keeper hooks and misses at a bouncer. And 180 plus looks on if they can get after Dernbach in the last over...

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Graeme: England have missed so many chances on this tour that they have all merged into one, apart from the very first drop by poor old Carberry off Haddin, which somehow sticks in the mind.

18.1 overs:

Aus 163-6

Bresnan back for England's penultimate over... Wade swats him for six over mid-wicket. Really not much for England to chirp about.

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Rob Appleby in Swansea: I'm surprised Michael Vaughan isn't being mentioned as a replacement for Flower. No nonsense Yorkshireman. I'd say most of the gents who should be in the frame are too cosy with their pundit positions at the moment!

18 overs:

Aus 157-6 (Bailey 20*, Wade 10*)

To add insult to injury, Wade powerfully flat-bats Dernbach for four through backward square leg, before picking out Bopara again, this time for a single. Two overs left, Australia will be looking for 170 plus.

"That ball went so high in the air. It went out of the stadium, but straight up.

"When the ball goes up, and with 60,000 people screaming, there is pressure. Ravi Bopara did not get himself set."

17.4 overs:

DROPPED CATCH- Aus 152-6

Jade Dernbach to bowl the 18th (and presumably 20th) over with four men back on the legside boundary - Bailey uppercuts a single to third man, Wade dabs one to cover. Bailey steps back and guides a ball from outside leg stump down to third man, then just as with the 100, a Dernbach wide brings up the 150. Wade launches one high into the stratosphere... and it's dropped by Bopara.

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Brent Loughton: Knowing the Australian selectors, one failure and Brad Hodge will be dropped. One of the great mysteries of Aus cricket why he never plays.

Dan Gee: I am English and it saddens me to see Hodge get out. Top player.

17 overs:

Aus 146-6 (Bailey 18*, Wade 2*)

Jordan to complete his spell, Bailey pulls a single bringing new batsman Matthew Wade on strike. The left-handed wicketkeeper guides a single to fine leg, Bailey clips a scampered two off his legs and moves to 17 with a single. Wade doubles his score with a single to deep mid-wicket, Bailey nicks the strike and Jordan finishes with 1-23 from four.

Dan Christian is the new batsman for Australia - and Broad bowls him second ball as the right-hander gets an inside edge onto his stumps. Broad finishes with 3-30 from his four overs, Australia have lost three wickets for nine runs.

"There was a moan and a groan from the crowd, everyone is disappointed that Brad Hodge did not get a big score.

"The only problem with the short boundaries is you only have to get it slightly wrong and you are out. On a normal boundary, he would have been safe."

15.4 overs:

WICKET- Hodge c Dernbach b Broad 7 (Aus 139-5)

Root's off despite taking that wicket, and Cap'n Broad returns for his last over. He's even racing back to his mark between deliveries, perhaps England are aware they're behind the rate in terms of overs? Hodge pulls a two through square leg. Another short ball, and the catch is taken at fine leg. No fairytale for the 39-year-old.

15 overs:

Aus 137-4

A big cheer from the Aussie crowd as 39-year-old Brad Hodge, the highest scorer in the history of Twenty20 cricket, walks to the middle, wearing a very bright flourescent yellow pair of boots. Maybe he's been taking part in a road safety campaign and has a full luminous suit back in his locker... Anyway, it's his first innings for Australia since 17 October 2007, and he's off the mark with a single. Bailey hooks a single, and the old man gets lucky when he chops the ball past the stumps and down the leg side for four.

Stokes is off after going for 36 in three overs - he may not get a fourth - and England turn back to Chris Jordan. His first ball is edged to Buttler down the leg side as White's careful innings ends.

14 overs:

Aus 130-3

Root, bowling round the wicket to the right-handed new batsman George Bailey, is whacked for four through mid-wicket by the Aussie T20 skipper. Bailey drills a two to long-off, then blasts a six over long-on. There are fears from my colleagues here that Australia may already have enough...

"Why did Ben Cutting not try and hit that for six? It was a clever trajectory from Joe Root, as he bowled it flat and back of a length.

"If Cutting had backed himself, he could have hit that anywhere. It was a good catch from Root."

13.2 overs:

WICKET- Cutting c & b Root 29 (Aus 118-3)

With no front-line spinner, England turn to their only slow bowling option - part-time off-spinner Joe Root. White is doing well to give Cutting the strike here, knocking it around just over a run-a-ball - but Root strikes when he dives to his left and takes a great return catch as Cutting tries to punch him down the ground! Cutting departs for 29 from 16 balls.

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Phil Hook: England are crying out for a slower bowler. Another obvious team selection error.

Martin Horne: Aussie bowlers smacking it round the park at nine-per-over - are we playing an extra test match?!

13 overs:

Aus 117-2

Bresnan off, Stokes on... England may pay for their lack of variety here as with no spinner, all they have to rotate is five right-arm seamers (or possibly a sixth if they bowl Bopara), and White helps himself to a straight six deep into the crowd. A single takes him to 40, and Cutting smacks another six, over long-off this time.

Cutting pulls a slower-ball-bouncer from Dernbach for a single, White dabs one to fine leg as the bowler waves his tattooed arms to shuffle his field. A wild and woolly wide outside leg stump brings a cheer as it's Australia's hundred, and the Surrey man recovers with a yorker which Cutting does well to dig out, but Cutting has his revenge as he bisects the long-on (Joe Root) and long-off (Chris Jordan) fielders with a lofted drive which beats them both to the boundary. Cutting drives and misses, Dernbach has 0-12 from two overs.

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David Harman: Employing Ashley Giles as England's limited-overs coach is like asking Geoff Boycott to open in T20.

Paddy Emmerson: None of the current coaching staff can be considered, needs a complete change. Our playing style was passive & we got found out.

Despicable P: Disappointment looms with the choice of coach. Remember, English cricket has a proud history of shooting itself in the foot.

11 overs:

Aus 97-2

Broad off, Bresnan back, White powers a four through mid-wicket and helps a slower ball to the fine leg boundary for another. A single brings Cutting on strike, and he launches an enormous maximum (measured at 85m) over one of the long boundaries at mid-wicket. A two and a single take him to 18 from only seven balls.

"Another advantage of having so many people in your pool of talent, is that people can come and slot in right away. Ben Cutting is doing that today for Australia."

10 overs:

Aus 79-2 (White 23*, Cutting 9*)

Anyone reading this in the crowd is advised to get their tin hats on as Jade Dernbach is into the attack... he starts with a dot ball to White, his nemesis in the last game, White helps himself to a two and a single, the dark-haired Cutting takes guard and dabs a single to third man. White drills a single to long-on so it's five from Dernbach's first over, and we're already halfway through the Aussie innings.

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Richard in Stockport: Talking of short straight boundaries, I reckon one end at Compstall CC in Stockport is 30 yards.

9 overs:

Aus 74-2

Queensland's Ben Cutting is in at number four - either he's more of an all-rounder than I thought he was, or Australia are really taking the mickey by sending their bowlers in up the order... After a single from White, Cutting dabs his first ball to third man for two, then a hesitant prod to backward point and he's halfway down the pitch... but sub fielder Michael Lumb's throw is wide of the stumps. A direct hit would have run him out. Cutting's response? To smash a six over long-on. Painful for England. But if you don't take your chances...

Broad back into the attack, Maxwell lifts him over square leg for another six, but then perishes aiming for another as he mistimes one to long-on.

8 overs:

Aus 59-1

Single from White, then Maxwell plays and misses trying to force Stokes through the off side, while the Durham man then strays with a legside wide. But England will know Maxwell is a proven big hitter - he gives himself room to hammer a six over long-off, before he steps across his stumps and fails to connect with an attempted ramp shot over fine leg. A single takes him to eight.

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Jack Byrne: Broad holding Dernbach back. Too scared to bowl him in the powerplay to try and make his figures look better.

Paul Roberts: England's fielding post Collingwood continues to plummet new depths. Need his expertise and inspiration in the 'new era'.

7 overs:

Aus 50-1 (White 17*, Maxwell 1*)

The bearded Glenn Maxwell is the new batsman, he's off the mark with a single off his first ball, while White adds another single to move to 17.

"That was a slightly easier catch for Stuart Broad, who took it comfortably. The English bowlers have been a lot better tonight.

"The introduction of Chris Jordan has added pace. When the batsmen move around their crease, the bowlers are following them."

6.4 overs:

WICKET- Finch c Broad b Bresnan 30 (Aus 48-1)

But having lived by the sword, Finch dies by the sword as he can't time a pull shot and the catch loops up for the skipper at wide mid-on.

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Philip Jackson: I'll stick up for Jade Dernbach. Actually I can't, the bloke is rubbish.

Thomas Measures: Whoever the new coach is, the first lesson they should teach the players is that catches win matches.

Thomas Stirk: No-one mentioning Andrew Strauss as a potential England coach? I think he would do an excellent job and would get respect.

6.2 overs:

DROPPED CATCH- Aus 48-0

With the fielding restrictions over, England can have more men back on the boundary - but they may need to stick a few fielders in the stands if they're going to pitch it up to White and Finch. After a single from White, Finch goes aerial again, Alex Hales is underneath it at long-on, he gets two hands to it but can't hold on and pushes the ball over the rope for six. Why was he two yards in from the boundary?

"How did Aaron Finch get so much power into that first six? It did not really come up at him. Australia were looking to play a big over. For the second six, Ben Stokes bowled it exactly where Finch wanted it.

"England may as well have been fielding in the bar, as it is such a short boundary straight on. You cannot pitch it up on this wicket."

All-rounder Ben Stokes to bowl the final over of the powerplay. One of the few bright points in England's tour of hell, he's playing his fifth Twenty20 international, having sent down three overs for 26 on the only previous occasion he's been asked to bowl - having played his first two games in 2011 as a batsman. But Finch tucks into him straight away, smacking two huge sixes (one over mid-wicket, one over the bowler's head), the ball being caught about 10 rows back. These two may be pretty lethal with these short straight boundaries.

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Gren in Warwick: All this talk of Gary Kirsten and Ashley Giles and as yet no mention of, in my mind, the outstanding candidate: Phil Tufnell. You only have to look at his recent performances in A Question of Sport to see how he gets the most out a team. The key to this will be persuading the Aussies to alter the Ashes format, aka the Women's Ashes, with it ending with a game of charades, worth double points, between Tuffers and Boof Lehmann (from now on to be known as Boofers).

5 overs:

OUCH!- Aus 27-0

White is hit in the unmentionables as he tries to fend one off from Bresnan, before a single takes him to 15, Finch moves into double figures with a gentle single.

"You do not want to be dropping Aaron Finch. That came at Chris Jordan slower than he thought it would do."

4.2 overs:

DROPPED CATCH- Aus 25-1

Tim Bresnan replaces Broad at what Charles Dagnall on TMS is calling "the Edwards End" - named after triple-jumper Jonathan Edwards, who starred in the sandpit at that end when the Olympics was staged in that stadium. Finch tries to pull Bresnan... and is dropped by Jordan at mid-wicket. Single taken.

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Simon Robbins: Re: Ashley Giles - The in-crowd, watch out for Gooch getting the job. The architect of our batting disasters. Oh well, Bopara will be a regular!

4 overs:

Aus 24-0 (White 14*, Finch 8*)

Aaron Finch, who destroyed England's attack with a brutal display of hitting in Southampton last year, finds the boundary for the first time with a powerful pull shot before guiding Jordan for a single to Tim Bresnan at fine leg. Keeper Jos Buttler dives well down the leg side to prevent a probable leg bye (or four).

White and Finch add a couple of singles, so it's 10 from Broad's over - but the captain recovers as White plays and misses at the last delivery. And was that a bit of chat exchanged between batsman and bowler? White v Dernbach was a sledging contest from the other night...

"You would be forgiven for thinking Cameron White is a lot older than 30, because of all the cricket he has played. I've just been told the straight boundaries here are 58m and 59m - and these two batsmen hit 80m for fun."

2.3 overs:

Aus 15-0

This is more like what we've come to expect from Cameron White, clubbing back-to-back fours from Broad - one straight, one through cow corner. This could be a long day for England in the field...

2 overs:

Aus 7-0 (White 5*, Finch 1*)

Chris Jordan, making his first Twenty20 international appearance, takes the second over. He has 13 wickets from 19 games in domestic T20, though at an economy rate of 8.80. After Jordan starts with a wide, White can't connect cleanly as he aims a big hit, but then whips a two behind the square leg umpire as Jade Dernbach, down at long leg, takes a tumble on the sandy outfield. White hoicks a single which reaches Dernbach on the first bounce.

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Neil Perry: Problem with the England set-up is that there's an unwillingness to change, be it line-up or style. For that alone, no to Giles.

Totum: My cornflakes have more charisma than Ashley Giles (and I haven't put any sugar on them).

Martin Gregory: Please get Ashley Giles out of the once proud England set-up. Bang average bowler and worse coach, what are his credentials?

1 over:

Aus 3-0

White guides Broad for a single through the covers, fellow right-hander Finch taps a quick one past the bowler. White manages a single off his legs, a decent start from the England T20 skip.

On Twitter: "I wonder if Justin Langer will show any interest in the England job? Highly regarded in England with connections at Middlesex and Somerset."

08:36:

An interesting addendum to the "should England go in without a spinner today" debate - women's captain Charlotte Edwards has just been interviewed on TMS by Charles Dagnall, who told the England skipper she should bowl herself more. "I'll definitely be bowling [at the World Twenty20] in Bangladesh," part-time off-spinner Edwards affirms.

"I thought they would have given Jade Dernbach a rest today. I think he will be useful in places like Bangladesh, where the pitches are slower. England have seen enough of him in the last few games."

08:33:

Phil Jaques makes an interesting point - Stadium Australia is a multi-sport stadium, but just as when the Sydney Thunder franchise play there in the Big Bash, the wickets are pitched with a short straight boundary and long side boundaries. (For those who know Cardiff, a bit like there).

Clearly that was the preferred option - other multi-sport stadiums, like Napier's McLean Park in New Zealand, have long straight boundaries but short side boundaries.

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Marc Webb: So England continue to pick Dernbach who has been useless and drop a spinner on a slow pitch, well done Giles off you go too.

Paul Hanks: In the last three sets of one-day series we have learned Dernbach is not an international cricketer. Bet we learn it in West Indies too.

The anti-Dernbach brigade have started early... anyone want to stick up for the tattooed Surrey man, whose combined figures in this series are 7-0-92-1?

If you're just off out for the day, don't forget you can follow TMS via the BBC Sport App, which now supports larger tablets and mobile devices - you can listen to the commentary as well as following the live text.

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Gary Jones: Apart from being part of the in-crowd already, how can Ashley Giles possibly be the answer to take English cricket forward? Just don't get it at all. Have you see how bad this one-day team is? And please don't tell me winning the County Championship with Warwickshire is a reason, or 10 wickets in the 2005 Ashes, or (and this is a good one) coaching our spinners' performance squad!

08:22:

Test Match Special's team are up and running. Here are the full teams:

Paul: Well, I'd say Kirsten; Tendulkar rates him as the best he's worked with. For me, that's praise enough to interview him alone. We need some new faces, as some players (Wright, Bresnan to name two) seem only capable of playing Groundhog Day cricket. Cook to be kept well away from ODI cricket. We need some new faces, so fearlessness needs to come in, look how Stokes responded.

08:19:

A thought for England's hierarchy who have decided not to pick a spinner... the best bowler for England's women today, on the same pitch, was off-spinner Danielle Hazell who conceded only nine runs in four overs. The gentle medium pace of Arran Brindle and even the occasional off-spin of Charlotte Edwards were more effective than the quicker bowlers.

"If England's tour had been scored the same way as the multi-format Women's Ashes then currently Australia would be leading by 42 points to 2."

England captain Stuart Broad: "We've been fortunate throughout playing in stadiums with amazing crowds and it's an amazing occasion. We know we've got a powerful batting line-up, we're disappointed to have lost the series but all the players want to leave with a victory."

08:16:

Women's Ashes

If you weren't up early with us for the women's game earlier (shame on you), there was a low-key finish to the multi-format Women's Ashes series as Australia won the last Twenty20 international by seven wickets to ensure England's series victory was only 10-8 on points. Meanwhile, injured fast bowler Katherine Brunt made an entertaining debut as a summariser on Test Match Special, revealing that captain Charlotte Edwards calls her "the devil child" when she gets angry on the pitch...

08:15:

So, Luke Wright will open for England, who have decided not to field a front-line spinner, on what we saw earlier today was a pretty slow pitch.

Did they even watch the women's game?

08:12:

Toss news

Australia win the toss and bat first. They make a couple of changes, with all-rounder Daniel Christian and seamer Ben Cutting (making his first international appearance for nearly a year) replacing batsman Chris Lynn and seamer Josh Hazlewood.

So, on to Sydney for the final Twenty20 international - news of the toss, and the teams, as we get it, but we're hearing of an international debut in this format for pace bowler Chris Jordan, who has played six ODIs.

You may not be aware that today's T20 games are not in the genteel surroundings of the Sydney Cricket Ground, but at Stadium Australia - also known by a variety of sponsor names, but probably better known to you as the Olympic Stadium from the 2000 Games, and the venue of the 2003 Rugby World Cup Final. (Any Australians reading this are welcome to look up the result of that game).

08:08:

Get involved

So, plenty for you to talk about. Should Andy Flower have gone? Is Ashley Giles the man to replace him, as seems to be the suggestion? If not, then who? Email us at tms@bbc.co.uk (with "For Mark Mitchener" in the subject line), text 81111 if you're in the UK, or tweet us via #bbccricket to join the debate.

We're several months away from England's next Test, against Sri Lanka at Lord's in June, but the limited-overs side has a busy time before then. There's a tour of the West Indies which begins later this month, with a World Twenty20 in Bangladesh to follow. Who has enhanced their prospects in the last seven games - and who should never pull on an England one-day shirt again?

Morning, everyone. A tour of Australia may be a marathon, not a sprint, but England are stumbling across the line with all the healthy vigour of Pheidippides - the Greek messenger who inspired the modern marathon by running a long distance before collapsing and dying after delivering his message.

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