No longer content with preaching Sharia in the mosque, some British Muslims are now attempting to impose Islamic law on the streets. In videos posted on YouTube, self-described “Muslim patrols” have filmed themselves berating young women for being inappropriately dressed, seizing cans of beer from men, and burning posters advertising women’s underwear.

In another video, a mob pursues a man they suspect of being gay down a street, calling him a “fag” and telling him to get out of their “Muslim area.”

The videos are the latest example of how many Muslims — particularly young men — are not just failing to integrate into British society, but are becoming increasingly open in their hostility to it. It’s more evidence, if any more were needed, of the disastrous legacy of the policies of mass immigration and multiculturalism inflicted on Britain by Tony Blair’s “New Labour” government.

Only the worst excesses — such as the vigilante videos and the case last year of a Muslim gang that raped and abused vulnerable white girls — get widespread media attention. But national and local media regularly carry stories of less sensational yet alarming incidents. Even these are only the tip of the iceberg; the failure of multiculturalism is manifested in countless minor incidents in cities across Britain every day.

Typical of such incidents is what my partner experienced recently when walking through an ethnically mixed area of a city that is home to large numbers of Somali refugees. She had to run a gauntlet of hissing, spitting, and hostile comments from Somali men. The Somali women, meanwhile, turned their backs on her. Such insidious, low-level incidents go largely unremarked upon, but are the source of growing tensions.

The encounters captured in those videos show a new development. In the past, the worst excesses of Muslim extremism have been perpetrated in the shadows. The victims were mostly either young girls from poor white communities — as in the “grooming” incident — or other Muslims who are the victims of abuses ranging from being denied an education to female genital mutilation, forced marriage, and “honor” attacks which in some cases result in murder. But the people being harassed and threatened in the videos are random passers-by. Many of them will be young, liberal-minded urban dwellers who fancy themselves as sophisticated and tolerant types and who desire living in culturally mixed communities.

Increasingly, Islamists are coming into conflict with the very people who have been most eager to embrace liberal thinking on immigration, political correctness, and “diversity.” Multiculturalism has been a warmly satisfying and largely consequence-free indulgence for white liberals. It allowed them to flaunt their moral superiority over “racist” conservatives (an advisor to the Blair government has admitted that Labour’s immigration policy was a political project intended to “rub the Right’s nose in diversity”). It also served to alleviate their guilt over past actual sins, such as the slave trade, and to present imagined ones, such as “globalization.”

Labour’s lax attitude to immigration had distinct material benefits for the liberal elites. It ensured plentiful supply of cheap nannies, exotic food stores, and hip ethnic restaurants, while those who could afford to were able to keep a safe distance from the squalor and criminal activity of the slum areas that mass immigration helped create.

A great many immigrants have become well-integrated and productive members of British society. But the architects of multiculturalism reckoned without the intransigence and intolerance of extremist Islam. Parts of London and other British cities are now divided between fashionable districts inhabited by the well-off professional classes and Muslim ghettos.

There are also areas where the boundaries are blurred, and where less-well-off liberally minded types — often students, the creatively inclined, and other vaguely “bohemian” types — live in close proximity to Muslims who at best disapprove of their lifestyle and at worst want to outlaw it.

Many of these young liberals will sympathize with the Islamists’ hostility towards “Western imperialism,” globalization, America, and Israel. Take the girl in the first video linked above, whom the “patrol” lambasts for being immodestly dressed. She’s white and well-spoken, and while she could be a conservative, it’s easy to imagine her joining an anti-war march or a sit-in at Starbucks, or brandishing a “We are all Hamas now” placard. The irony is that many of these young urban liberals also epitomize the lifestyle that British Muslims are increasingly lashing out against, and embrace the values and attitudes that have led to a hollowing-out of Western culture — whether it’s drug use, binge drinking, or the promotion of commitment-free sex and the sexualization of young girls.

The rotting of the culture that’s been underway for the last few decades is not, of course, all the fault of liberal politicians and Hollywood. The prevalence of celebrities who are woeful role models, and irresponsible marketing by the alcohol and fashion industries have played a big part. But it’s liberals who have exalted in continually pushing the boundaries and smashing taboos — particularly when it comes to sex and drugs — while mocking the calls of the religious and the socially conservative for restraint. What we’re increasingly witnessing on Britain’s streets and elsewhere in Europe is the great contradiction at the heart of the entire liberal multicultural project: the conflict in the physical and ideological space where tolerance collides with intolerance; where the bohemians come face-to-face with a brutal puritanism.

There’s an element of contradiction in all this for many on the right, too. Religious and social conservatives share the dismay of many Muslims at the state of Western society. The difference is that even the most conservative Christians and secularists have a rather higher tolerance for “immoral” behavior than extremist Muslims, and for them the solutions lie not in gangs patrolling the streets but in better education, the fostering of better morals, and the reform of welfare systems that have destroyed working class families and eroded personal responsibility.

It’s difficult to see where this ends.

Authorities are cracking down on the most obvious transgressions by Islamists, such as sexual abuse and vigilantism (several people have been arrested in connection with the YouTube videos). But low-level extremism mostly goes unpunished, and there’s little evidence of a change in the attitudes that cause Muslim immigrants to despise their hosts, and cause young men to be radicalized in mosques and Islamic bookshops, schools, and youth centers. Muslims are also not subject to the relentless attacks of the kind that Christians and social conservatives regularly endure, whether it’s in the workplace, by politically correct bureaucrats, or in popular culture and academia.

If the Left was half as interested in confronting extremist Muslims as it was in offending and marginalizing moderate Christians and conservatives, the Islamists would have a real battle on their hands.

It’s likely that Muslim communities will become increasingly “ghettoized,” which in turn will mean little hope for reform. Perhaps “Muslim patrols” will then extend their writ into the better-off districts inhabited by the liberal elites who birthed the multicultural monster. And perhaps those liberals will accept a form of dhimmitude; after all, it’s no great hardship to wait until you are behind your front door to open a can of beer rather than drinking it in the street, or for women to don a longer skirt and a headscarf when they venture outside.

Or perhaps the “Westernizing” influences that Muslims are now lashing out against will eventually overwhelm Islamic culture and family life, and a community whose more moderate members could teach their secular neighbors much about family values, self-respect, and personal morality will become as thoroughly corrupted as their hosts.

Then again, perhaps our decaying but seductive Western culture, and a robust but censorious Islamist one, will battle one another to a messy stalemate. None of the possibilities look pretty.

Mike McNally is a journalist based in Bath, England. He posts at PJ Tatler and at his own blog Monkey Tennis, and tweets at @notoserfdom. When he's not writing about politics he writes about Photoshop.

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So, next in the British ghettos, the immigrants will burn cars and riot when they are not pleased. Oh, wait, that’s what they already do in France. Those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

You must’ve missed the riots in 2011. And just like here, the only businesses not burnt to the ground were the Vietnamese (or Korean) business owners who were on their roofs with a shotgun daring the hooligans to torch the place.

The difference between Islam and Christianity is that Islam from its very beginnings was based upon violence against those who would not accept the Muslim teachings of “submission to Allah”. Throughout the Koran Mohammed tells his followers that they are supposed to wage war against those who reject the teachings given to Mohammed by the “angel” supposedly sent by Allah to Mohammed. So Islam right from its beginnings in the 7th Century was based upon violence. Whereas Christ taught “turn the other cheek”, Mohammed taught “use the sword”. “Strike off the heads of those who refuse to submit!” is part of the teachings of Islam. Thus Muslims by the teachings of their own religion are taught to be “violent” to non-Muslims. And in a society with strict gun control, they have little to fear from those whom they attack. It is part of their culture, their religion, a religion based upon hatred and intolerance.

UNITED STATES
Drinking in public is illegal in almost all jurisdictions in the United States, with this ban usually extending to include drinking within a moving car.

Laws against drinking in public are known as open container laws, as the presence of an open container of alcohol is seen as evidence of drinking in public and is far easier to witness and prove than the act of drinking.

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So it seems that this Mike McNally is either 100% correct or else partially correct and partially BULLSH1T

It’s not true that wherever you go in the US, it is illegal to drink in public. There are open container laws, but they are usually controlled by a municipality. There are large areas, most of the country in fact, where you can drink in public with no problems.

The Left has steadily been gaining in Great Britain since about WWII. Look at how they lambasted Churchill and any conservative since. Like FeralCat already posted above, you reap what you sow. What is now a tiny plant, will be one hellava briar fest.

I guess there’s no such thing as a forearm shiver in the UK, because, unfortunately, that’s all some people understand. Some people simply can’t be reasoned with. That gay guy needs a blackjack, not legs that walk.

That lack of a willingness to stand up for one’s self is pervasive in the Third World. Muslims seem to be especially easy to cow within communities of other Muslims.

Everyone should spend a couple years in a dozen Third World countries. I guarantee you the tropes the Left loves would fall down in short order. They will any way since PC Leftists will be the first to fall victim, not people who see these things for what they are and say there is no such thing as a “Muslim area” anywhere in the U.S. If push comes to shove, like in Dearborn, they’d be the ones to go, not me.

The social experiment that has brought millions from a failed Third World is itself a conspicuous failure. Excuse, blame and explanations only go so far. Liberals are experts on explaining away places like Bolivia and Kathmandu and putting the blame on invisible white Westerners. I am not.

He would then be accused of assault with a weapon and arrested. If he only threatened them with it, he would get arrested for that too. Actually, if he were merely to be found in possession of it he would be arrested.

Exactly right. Crime is out of control in the UK because self-defense is effectively illegal. The Progressive objective of citizen disarmament in the United States is the same. Outlaw self-defense and use the resulting crime as a method of social control.

Yesterday I read two articles posted on the NYC and Chicago CBS affiliate websites on crime in our two largest gun free utopias. In NYC flash mobs have been hitting newsstands and stealing thousands of dollars of merchandise. These mobs will destroy independent businesses and make their owners wards of the state which is ultimate Progressive objective.

In Chicago the CPD has just announced that because of budget cuts they will no longer respond to 911 burglary calls unless there is a chance that they can catch the perp. Once the bad guys know that the cops aren’t coming there will be more burglaries and therefore more encounters between citizens and criminals. If a resident of Chicago were to shoot an intruder, he will be prosecuted for having an illegal firearm in the city.

While the comments are factually correct, they are made in a vacuum. These things would never happen in SD, or SC or most other free states because there are no news stands, housing projects, ghettos, etc. Gun control, fascism and the peasant world go hand in hand. It takes two to tango.
I have seen the same mischief in Albanian ghettos in the ’90s, here in NY. Any group of ghettoized people, of any ilk, will behave the same way. And this is the cycle: Come to America. Live in crowded cities. Move out to the rest of the country. Succeed.
This has worked for all comers. The only failures have been “those” who will not leave the inner cities, but call them their own.
My grandfather racked pool balls for gangsters at the turn of the last century. He became chief electrician in Brooklyn Navy Yard. His daughter, my mother got a PhD. His grandchildren are all professionals. My other grandfather moved from the Austro-Hungarian region at the same time. He got rich in retail, lost it all in the Depression but all his children and grand children are professionals.
The crowded cities are supposed to be incubators for the American dream, not cesspools and dumping grounds for its nightmares. The nucleus of the problem is public housing. I know this from over seven years of working in the ghetto in a quasi law enforcement job. Public housing must be destroyed. If necessary, the residents must be bought out with a check or a voucher. Once that occurs, the ghetto problems will end.
When any group is forced to dilute itself and meld into the general American public, it will become part of that American whole. Ghettos are poison. And on the note of self defense, spear guns are legal in NYC, as are compound bows, bats, bear spray and numerous other devices and items. And you can get a long gun permit for a pump shotgun pretty easily. Most of the victims don’t do it because they can’t because they’re not here legally. But you won’t find a single robbery in Little Italy or Chinatown. You can park your car there unlocked, if you find a spot.
And no, I’m not registering any of my rifles. No one here is.

The problem with “destroying” public housing is you just create ghettoes in the suburbs and countryside. What should end is endless taxpayer support — and while you’re on taxpayer support, your standard of living shouldn’t be comparable to someone who earns their living, no matter how modest.

There you go again thinking the blue state governing class wants to do something about crime and poverty. The goal of the Progressive movement is to increase poverty, crowd the poor together in tight quarters and use the criminal element to keep them there.

Going to the Illinois Institute of Technology between South 35th and South 29th Streets along State Street in Chicago in the early ’70′s, I remember the housing projects just north of the Stuart Center and on the south side of 35th Street across from the IIT Research Institute tower. The really dangerous projects were “Trey Nine”, four blocks further south on State Street. About five or more years ago, all those projects were torn down and the area, now known as “Bronzeville” went through gentrification. Many of the former project dwellers with their psychopathologies intact were sent to the south suburbs: Matteson, Richton Park, Lynnwood, Sauk Village, Markham, Hazelcrest, and other municipalities. A lot of Sauk Village, made up of small blue-collar single family bungalows and duplexes, is now Section 8 housing. There’s been a rise in crime, particularly break-ins, assaults and robberies. A couple of years ago, Sauk Village made the local news when young adult minority males went on rampages over a summer weekend, assaulting people in their front yards and on their porches and even staging some home invasions.

Citizens must create their own reality, and not allow some police force at the service of some deluded politically correct bureaucracy do it for them. Were this not true, I’d still be saying “God bless the King.”

I will break laws that are wrong until they are laws no longer. Or we can let animals run the streets. If I was an Englishman, and someone told me I was in a Muslim area, someone would be unconscious in short order. Maybe me, but that’s the price. You can’t put everyone in jail just because they defend themselves walking down a street. So, defend yourselves. The police will eventually go back to arresting actual criminals, instead of someone reading a book while burglars break in.

In their heart of hearts liberals are basically chicken sh*t. In any situation where a liberal has to chose sides between a Muslim and a gay you can bet that our liberal friend will throw all “deeply held beliefs” *snicker* to the wind and back the Muslim. Gays are much less likely to behead a person.

They cancel each other out. What happens in the Rainbow Coalition stays in the Rainbow Coalition. Technically they can’t oppress each other or they’re suffering from PTSD cuz of white privilege or the Crusades or cuz a cloud passed over the sun.

This article seriously understates the extent of the rape jihad in the UK. Thousands upon thousands of girls (and boys) from a wide range of non-Muslim backgrounds are constantly preyed upon by hundreds of gangs, often led by imams. These children experience invasive assault, gang rape, sexual slavery and occasionally murder. This occurs in dozens of towns and cities across Britain.

Thousands upon thousands is effectively a few thousand. The fellow didn’t say tens of thousdands, nor hundresds of thousands.

That being said, what is obvious is they are preying on children (young ones at that!) of single parent homes or those in foster care. These children have no family support systems and therefore fall prey to muslims that ply them with drugs and alcohol, raping them and ultimately pressing them into prostitution.

I even read read one unpleasant story where a girl of 14 was prostetuted by a muslim she met through Facebook. Her parents (yes – the rare case of a girl living with her married parents) took her from these thugs and threw away the phone they gave her to answer pimp calls. The muslims came to their home and threatened to set the home on fire and burn them out if they didn’t send the girl out to them.

It happens more than we’d like to think about here in the US. Lots of immigrants, legal and not, are simply contemptuous of our silly laws and liberal attitudes and game the system any way they can. Residential neighborhoods are dotted with houses that have a sign in some oriental language or Arabic saying the house is a church and that takes it off the tax rolls. In reality it is more likely to be a brothel, a rooming house for immigrants, or a store or all of the above, but since they call it a church they get a pass. Unfortunately, the mainstream religions help to protect them because they too have gamed the system by getting legislation to allow the housing for church staff, including teachers in church schools, to escape property taxes.

Immigrants are heavily involved in the sex trade. Young women are brought here on fraudulent family reunification claims and turned to prostitutes. The father is actually the patron for male and female clients who owe him for their relocation and he knows the truth of their fraudulent entry; he owns them as literally as any Southern master owned his slaves. Political correctness causes authorities to look the other way and even in the rare event of a woman being busted for prostitution, it is politically inconvenient to look far into her circumstances. Middle Eastern and Russian/Eastern European immigrants actively recruit young American girls for prostitution. I have a friend whose seventeen year old step-daughter took what the parents thought was simply a clerk job in a mall kiosk, but soon it was apparent that she had a lot of money and wasn’t exactly keeping mall hours. On some investigation, the mall job only served to get her in the grasp of the Middle Eastern men who owned several such businesses. They use the enticement of money, drugs, and perceived glamour to get the girls to turn tricks and since they only recruit the very young and very pretty, they fetch a fancy price. When they confronted her about it and demanded she quit, she ran away. The Middle Easterners were more than happy to take her in. When my friend and his wife went to the Child Protection Authorities about it, they simply said that since she couldn’t be compelled to come back home. The cops said the same thing and said since there was no evidence of prostitution, they could act from that angle. Of course, there was no evidence because the cops weren’t looking for any. And to add the final insult to injury, like most all immigrants, they were big supporters of our generous social welfare system and since the money she was making for them and for herself as a hooker wasn’t legal and wasn’t reported, she was now a poor indigent runaway eligible for all sorts of assistance. She told a tale of woe about her terrible home life that caused her to be homeless, and next thing you know the kid nazis that wouldn’t help get her back were investigating the parents for child abuse and making noise about compelling them to pay child support to the runaway daughter. My friend was able to make some calls to stop that nonsense and then engaged a private detective to get some evidence that was then turned over to the cops. When the cops started an investigation, the girl simply disappeared and only weeks later did she surreptitiously contact her mother to tell her she was in another state – working in a mall kiosk. We live in an ugly world that silly liberals only make worse.

Islam is a problem. Islam has always been problem for everyone else, because its central doctrine is that everyone else must be conquered and made to submit to the jackboot of Islam. And it allows Muslims to take non-Muslims, including children, as sex slaves. That’s a problem, regardless of the exact numbers of British victims today.

‘…even the most conservative Christians and secularists have a rather higher tolerance for “immoral” behavior than extremist Muslims, and for them the solutions lie not in gangs patrolling the streets but in better education, the fostering of better morals, and the reform of welfare systems that have destroyed working class families and eroded personal responsibility.’

Yes, and this is something that the Left and the RINO’s in this country refuse to acknowledge. The difference between conservative westerners and hard-core Muslims is like night and day, but the media and politicians constantly and falsely claim that there is an equivalence between Constitution-loving Americans and Sharia-loving Muslims. Plus, its a lot safer for the supposedly “transgressive” leftist to attack peaceful conservative Christians than it is to criticize a Muslim who will likely throw acid in one’s face in response.

“but the media and politicians constantly and falsely claim that there is an equivalence between Constitution-loving Americans and Sharia-loving Muslims.”

Oh, horsefeathers! If you’ve been paying attention the slime-media isn’t claiming Christians and muslims are equivalent at all! Muslim terrorists are freedom fighters and Christians are terrorists that need to be put down like rabid dogs. They don’t even pretend about this anymore. They want Christians rounded up and killed – period. They are just waiting for an excuse to do it.

There is some truth in what you say, lolly, in which the media present Muslims as superior to us Christian conservatives. Often, though, what the media does is more insidious. For instance, they’ll present one deception after another, such as “Look, those cuddly Muslims are just like us…Look how civilized they’ve been through the ages…With Sharia they believe in law and order just like any NRA supporter…’Jihad’ only means internal struggle, just like the ways that Christians try to better themselves…We’re all Palestinians now…See, my friend Abdul reads The Atlantic and drinks fine French wines…All ‘Abrahamic’ religions are the same,” etc., etc., with one deception after another, trying to portray most Muslims as poor, misunderstood followers of Voltaire, Abe Lincoln and Gandhi. Of course most of the media is completely in the Multiculturalist camp, in which all cultures are supposedly equal, except for traditional Judeo-Christian culture, which they present as the root of all evil. The media usually isn’t quite as brazen as to say that openly, although in academia you often hear it.

You are SO right!Years ago,
I told my adult son,”The way the militant atheists are,they won’t be satisfied until us Christians are meeting in unmarked basements!” “You’re exaggerating, Mom,they’re not like that”, he replied. I felt vindicated when a leading militant atheist actually said on the record recently that the GOAL was to force Christians to have to meet in unmarked basements. Do you ever hear any public figures say anything REMOTELY like that about MOSLEMS? NEVER.
We can stand against militant Islam together, or go down to defeat one by one if we do not.

Yes, cindobindo, and obviously the Obama administration and its allies are trying hard to force conservative Christians away from publicly acting out their faith. Any atheist or other non-Christian who really believes in religious freedom should be outraged by such things as the contraception/abortifacient mandate.

Of course this is quite different from the way in which Obama treats Muslims.

Some Brit said in a column awhile back that the English don’t play baseball,or have to deal with jungle foliage, yet baseball bats and machetes sell well over there,that they use them on each other since guns were outlawed. Maybe a few ENGLISH patrollers, armed, but gun free, could start patrolling the streets there,looking for Sharia patrols,and do some attitude adjusting.

Like they did with almost all other games apart from pointless boring American Football the British invented Baseball only they called it ‘ROUNDERS’ they saw that it was too sissy for grown men to play so in UK its played by school kids and girlies.

This state of affairs is duplicated in many western European countries, the same ones which are so hyper-critical of Israel but which rarely condemn the false condemnations on the part of the Arab Muslim world (not to mention their own participation) on Israel never mind the real acts of terrorism perpetrated upon Israel’s Jewish citizens. May I admit to, and employ, the term “Schadenfreude”?

British elections are typically won by the votes of about a million people in the Midlands; elsewhere most constituencies have such large majorities in favour of one party or the other that the politicians can do pretty much anything and still win. The Midlands also happen to be where many Muslim immigrants moved to over the last few decades when they were the industrial heartland of the country.

So shouting ‘we love Israel’ would be a fast path to losing the next election.

I had an interesting chat with one of my Muslim friends before I left the UK; he had moved there thirty or forty years earlier because Britain was so much better than the country he came from, and was distraught to see it turning into the kind of country he’d left.

This would be fine if it wasn’t for the fact that there are still Jewish communities there. Remember the French Jewish boy who was slowly tortured to death by a Muslim neighborhood and nothing much was done?

It would be edifying, if a little soporific, for anyone who thinks about and comments on cultural clashes to read some of Sam Huntington’s books. His book popularly known as “The Clash of Civilizations” is a scholarly but readable work written well before the current tensions with Muslims, and presciently describes the coming frictions with other cultures after the overriding tensions of ideologies with the Soviets and the Chinese had subsided. The second, much less well known work is “Who Are We?”, a demographic study of the people of the United States. In it you will find some surprising facts about this so-called “nation of immigrants.”

One take away is this: When cultures clash, it is not the superior culture that ultimately prevails, but the most vigorous. Would you say that Western culture in general is “more vigorous” that the Islamic cultures at the moment?

I think our only hope lies in the Southern redneck. The rednecks in the deep south still know how to hunt, fish, survive in the wild, and have the socially accepted levels of aggression to actually win a fight. They’ve got less to lose and tend to be more patriotic. Yep, it’s the rednecks that will save us. It’s not too late, befriend a hick today!

sorry but your argument fails because it has been the rejection of western civilization and replaced by the multi-culti suicide culture centered in brussels
the western civ that beat hitler no longer exists in europe

Traditional Western civilization hardly existed in Europe at the time of Hitler. I’m torn about why. Granted, France and the other European allies planted the better part of a generation’s men beneath the crosses row on row and that had a tremdous impact on their willingness to oppose the Germans again. But I don’t know if that had more influence on Europe’s lack of will to oppose Hitler than did the Molotov-von Ribbentrop pact. The Germans and Soviets were still allies when the Germans rolled up all of Europe and faced only token resistance. It is pretty clear that a lot of Europeans didn’t want to fight their comrades.

The Germans really weren’t that good! The British mythologized Guderian and Rommel in the same way and for the same reasons the US mythologized Lee and Jackson; only an opponent with mythical prowess could explain how badly they were being beaten. Even later with German bombs falling on England, support for the war by British labor and its leftists was at best half-hearted – until Barbarossa, whereupon they immediately began screaming “Second Front Now” at the top of their lungs.

We and the other countries of the Anglosphere preserved traditional Western civilization from the Nazi onslaught. We only thought we’d preserved it from the communist onslaught and right now it looks like we’re losing. As things stand, we’ll commit societal suicide before we are called upon to test our mettle against the desert barbarians.

Yeah, I always cringe when I hear someone say that we won the Cold War. We helped the USSR to implode, and we helped Eastern Europe and elsewhere to become more free. But, we also needed to discredit Marxism to the degree that Nazism and Fascism were discredited, and that hasn’t even remotely happened. So the USA is starting to crumble from within, as our schools crank out more students who think that the Communists were just misunderstood good guys.

in a sense I do get where RightwingHippyChick is driving at. A culture is only viable if it is a strong and viable one. if a culture decides to embrace weakness or self destructive behaviour there should be little suprise that it is stomped by stronger cultures, or…self destructs.

As for the folks that wonder about the inherent contradictions of the multiculti left not standing up for gays/women/cause du jour vs mulsims the answer is simple – and stated in the article: the multi-culti’s that have pushed this live in their own enclaves surrounded by mulsim ghettos. They are not affected by it, so it is not a problem.

They overlook the fact that they are surrounded. As their enclaves are slowly (but certainly) overrun, they will either scream like nothing before and turn to becoming a more bloody tyranny that has ever been seen in history to purge the problem, or they will simply fade away, fading from world awareness as they are slowly extirpirated.

I have no doubts they will ultimately cry for help and try to fight. I merely hope we follow part of the quote of Rorschach (from the Watchmen comics) “and politicians will look up and shout “Save us!”… and I’ll look down and whisper “No.” They had a choice, all of them. They could have followed in the footsteps of good men “

The problem, Rightie, is that we aren’t trying. The other threats were recognized for what they were and appropriately checkmated. Resurgent Islam? Just another peculiar culture to be tolerated, even celebrated.

Frankly, my preferred enemy is none of the above….but I also acknowledge that that is a tad unrealistic. You did leave off the most common enemy: ourselves. We have met the enemy and he is us.

Though I’d admit facing the Great Khans armies now would be a treat – a few dozen evil AR-15′s (with even more potently evil high capacity standard magazines) and you’d have little problems from him. May even get a few horses as tribute.

light snark aside, your listing of historical enemies leaves off one salient point:they were an enemy we could unite ourselves against (sans islamists).
IIRC I read some doom and gloomist reports about the time the iron curtain rusted apart that that was not the best possible outcome on a national level because the US would lose a clear uniting threat to its existance. IIRC those reports were roundly mocked for being fear-mongering and against Good And Right Thinking(tm). I’ll even cop to believing them to be overblown at the time (young usually = stupid)…but they were right.
Until and unless the islamic threat is properly recognized, it cannot be faced. If it cannot be faced it cannot be fought. To use a seperate analogy it is like the body fighting off a virus while dealing with a nasty autoimmune disorder. Part of the body knows it is under attack, but it cannot recognize it, and cannot fight it because it is to busy fighting itself.
If I recall rightly, the results of that combination are invariably fatal.
This is on display with the slow fall of Britain.

Most people, even historians, do not realize that the deadly Khans (Ghengis & sons) were very worthy opponents who preferred that the cities, or city-states, they were threatening during the Monghul invasions were given the choice, the opportunity, to surrender. Those which chose the latter were allowed to live and follow their own customs provided they paid tribute to the Monghuls. This is not unlike the paths to victory of the Roman Legions some centuries before. As far as I can see, the intent of the Islamists is not only to invade from an external position but also to digest respective cultures from within. There is no intent to allow cultures to carry on; there is every intent to see to it that respective cultures are destroyed and replaced by a fundamentalist form of Islam.

The Byzantines were at least as superior materially and technologically to them as we are today. They aren’t here to tell about it today due mostly to internal ideological and theological divisions and the antipathy towards the Byzantines by their only available potential ally, the Western Europeans emerging from the Dark Ages, also largely on ideological and theological grounds with a bit of greed and envy thrown in. After all, those beautiful bronze horses at St. Mark’s were once in Constantinople, as were a lot of other “renaissance” treasures.

The differences between left and right in America today are every bit as much an existential struggle as was the theological dispute over icons in the Byzantine Empire. The right is riven with disputes but thus far the left can unite on at least one thing; it’s hatred for the right. It hates us so much that it is willing to ally with an existential enemy of the left against us, probably because it feels as you do; our technological superiority will allow them to dispense with the Muslims when they’ve taken care of the Republicans.

One side will win and purges of the survivors of the other side and any heretics will be astoundingly vicious. It isn’t good to admit this in a place that lefties read, but Americans are capable of incredible violence and, yes, even brutality. There’s a reason we don’t study the Pacific War very much; it shows a face we don’t much like to look at.

It should be remembered that the Byzantines lost a significant portion of their Empire because the inhabitants simply defected to the Moslems and either converted or accepted dhimmitude as the preferable alternative to Byzantine persecution of heretics and non-believers. It is hard to believe today, but many Jews preferred dhimmitude to Byzantine Christian persecution of non-believers. Likewise, many Christian sects preferred dhimmitude to Byzantine persecution of heretics.

One weakness of the Western Civilization that we seek to preserve is that it looks at most of the conflict between the West and Islam through Roman Catholic eyes. The Byzantines held them off until the Roman Catholic Western Europeans learned to read again. A little over a hundred years after the fall of Constantinople, the Moslems were at the gates of Vienna. They haven’t forgotten, we have.

Yes. Whenever the Moslems invade a country, one of the first things they do is destroy all the churches,synagogues,schools, libraries,universities and museums, and replace them with mosques and madrassahs. They also usually slaughter all the religious and political leaders and teachers and such,so that they can impose 8th century culture as detailed by their false prophet is to be done in the Koran. We get reports occasionally even now about how they are frenziedly destroying Jewish and Christian archaeological sites and antiquities, the better to deny the historical existence of both religions.

These Moslems travel in packs, like wild dogs. Where are the men of Britain? I know that their guns have been taken away, but they should be countering these barbarian gangs with large numbers of men (and women) who will stand up to them. These Moslem boys (and that is what they are) are cowards and bullies who thrive on fear and intimidation. Have the British people surrendered already? I, as a long female, never stand down against any Moslem who expects me to stand asise on the street when they pass by. I never back down in a discussion with them when the get into a sickening speech about the virtues of Islam. Sometimes I think that the once great White, Western male is all but dead.

Didn’t you get the memo? Masculinity in white males is Sooo last century. Its no longer a virtue and if you don’t agree then the feminazis will insure you get your reeducation and the schools will insure you get your medication.

I never back down in a discussion with them when the get into a sickening speech about the virtues of Islam.

Criticize Islam in a discussion with a diehard, point out inconsistencies and even some downright absurdities in the Koran, and experience a level of vitriol and hatred you might not have experienced before.

Excellent article.
Recently someone posted a quote from Samuel Huntington, that it is not the superior culture that survives, but the more vigorous one.
To add to that, perhaps being more vigorous is an essential part of being superior, just like Rome during here centuries of prosperity.
Western civilization needs to make the connection between the plague of immorality in its midst, and being overrun by hostile cultures, including moderates and squishy undecided types. I don’t have any hope for most hardcore lefties, though maybe a few will have an epiphany like Roger Simon did. The problem may be that many people are only fiscal conservatives, and they can’t think holistically, believing that economic strength = overall strength. It’s like having large muscles with weak bones.
This islamic encroachment will get so bad that the media and lefties will not be able to ignore it. Just wait and see what the demographics are like in another generation.

Some above comments seem a bit smug – this phnomenon occurs WHEREVER Muslims achieve a certain critical density. Take a walk down any street in Dearborn or Hamtramck (mostly Arabs), Minnesota (massive Somali Sunnis), areas of Los Angeles ( massive Arab Sunnis and massive Persian Shiites) and you will encounter the beginnings of the exact same Islamic fascism.

Our elites rub elbows mainly with rich, educated Muslim sophisticates, Muslims who endlessly comfort, flatter, and assure them that Islam is a religion of peace, etc. That is the filthy lie regularly retailed to us by Muslim leaders, Western politicos, Western intellectuals, and their media henchmen…

And lest you think this is mainly a leftie problem of moral relativism and self-contempt for Western Civ, both Left and Right are willfully criminally blind to the actual menace of Islam. Muslims themselves view cultures outside Islam to be enemy cultures worthy of annihilation, but very few in the West view Islam as an enemy culture worthy of annihilation. If you suggest the manace is real, that Muslims are very dangerous, that they do not belong in the West in any significant numbers, that they support anti-Western Jihad even when selling baked goods to support their local mosque/indoctrination center/terror hub, you will be branded an ignoramous, a rube, a bigot. Meaanwhile the lies continue, and more Muslims arrive daily in the West to siphon resources and colonize new ground for Islam.

Muslims are waging war. We are attacking those who would fight them and save the West from Islam’s onslaught.

Just yesterday an assassination attempt was made IN LIBRAL COPENHAGEN by Muslim thugs against a brave Jihad-resistor named Lars Hedegaard – someone who should be featured prominently at a site like PJM. But nary a peep. Meanwhile, various writers at PJM participate in the filthy lie that the problem is not Islam.

Well, “Anonymous”, I see you haven’t been reading Pajamas Media for any length of time or else you have a special deficit in reading comprehension. Why do I write this? Because PJM has explicitly featured article after article warning about the threat to the West of Islam. It is one of the more intelligent and readable news sources with excellent featured writers such as the political columnist Barry Rubin, Roger Simon and the military historian Victor Davis Hansen.

In the Danish cartoons brouhaha, PJM was all over it, even had an article or 2 from one of the cartoonists (I think). And likewise when a guy from Yale wrote a book about the cartoons but was too chickensh!t to actually include the cartoons in his book !

Maybe Anaon was referring to some of PJM’s brain dead leftist commentators as opposed to columnists.

The French government helpfully provides an atlas of Muslim-controlled Zones urbaines sensibles. It lists towns and neighborhoods, rue_par_rue, and includes maps. They say even the police and emergency services are advised to steer clear of these no-go zones. Currently, there are 761 listings. Mon Dieu.

I detected a faint ray of hope from Denmark the other day. After the attempted assassination of Islam-critic Lars Hedegaard in Copenhagen, several European news outlets actually used words like “Pakistan” and “Arabic-looking” to describe the would-be killer. But then they will probably shamed for this and forced to recant. But hey! We sure can stand up to those Jews, can’t we!

Early last year, myself and a group of other locals succeeded in having a mosque planning application rejected by the local council here in the UK.

And let me tell you, the most vocal objectors were the wealthy, leftist, muliti-culti Guardian readers among the group. They were first to object, wrote the most vociferous objection letters, and bit down on the whole process like rabid dogs.

Once they had cultural enrichment promised on their own doorsteps, they sprang into action. If, however, the application had been down the road in the working class area, they would’t give a sh*t. They would have called anyone working class who objected a racist.

“Cultural enrichment for the poorer memebers of society, but none for us, thank you very much”. This is how they think.

You have the formula about right. The affluent left carries many burdens of guilt on its collective conscience. They despair of income inequality, though they generally earn more than most, they despise segregated housing patterns, though many live behind the gates. They just generally despise most of Western culture as it contrasts with their preferred multicultural society. However, making their own circumstances part of the cure would be, er, inconvenient, so they connive to have the politically impotent Joe Sixpacks of the world atone for them.

Works like AlGore’s carbon offsets for his mansion and his jet airplane, get it?.

You’re so right, SongDog, about that guilt complex. And Mike McNally is exactly right that the affluent left loves Multiculturalism in part because it ensures a “plentiful supply of cheap nannies, exotic food stores, and hip ethnic restaurants.” As others here have already said, those affluent lefties can usually retreat to their cocoons after sampling the wonders of Somali cuisine.

I’ve lived in “blue” areas a lot, and I’ve always been amazed at how viciously bigoted many leftists are towards ethnic minorities. They’ll deny it to their dying breath, of course, but it often slips out in things that they say, like it did in comments by Bill Clinton and Harry Reid when Obama was running in 2008. And we know how they’re very bigoted towards those of us whom they consider white bitter-clingers-to-Bibles-and-guns. Some of the most hateful, bigoted things I’ve ever heard came out of the mouth of a wealthy, lesbian, New York Times-reading woman in her sixties, who complained about how inferior people were in rural Ohio and the South. In her eyes, those rural hicks were actually subhuman, not just deluded. This is not an unusual attitude amongst the Left.

I used to date a very liberal women who lived in a posh suburb here near SF. When we started talking about moving in together, I suggested she come live in my home, in a lower-middle class, multi-cultural neighborhood and she was aghast at having to live amongst “those people”.

Or how about a liberal co-worker organizing our christmas gift for poor families program. When I asked when we’d be visiting the families she shrieked “oh god! I don’t want to meet any of them”.

Thanks CuriousKevmo. You and I and others here at PJMedia could assemble a long list of such incidents, which I’m sure would vastly outnumber the real and fake incidents of “racism” which groups like the NAACP have screamed about in the last few years. And for some, ahem, strange reason, most of the media haven’t been talking about the many cases of black against white violence in the USA during the Obama administration. Thank God Drudge has been keeping track of such things.

A friend of mine, a practicing psychiatrist, has been living six months in the UK and six months in America. She initially wanted to move to the UK permanently–she fell in love with Kent at a young age–but after spending time there, she’s seriously reconsidering it. She told me flat-out: “Europe is dying.”

At every race baiting, class warfare engendering accusation hurled forth by America’s current cabal of leaders, at every one of their self-serving, knee jerk assessments of Americans, we should all grow stronger.

In disgust.

As Andrew McCarthy wrote yesterday on new would be CIA guy John Brennan (hearings on appointment tomorrow?) this administration appears to have warm feelings for some of the biggest perverters of American liberty, organizations like CAIR and and ISNA have been welcomed at the White House.

We’re right behind Britain in terms of increasing Islamist empowerment.

Can’t remember where, but a few years ago I saw a piece that described the actions of muslims based on the percentage of the population of a particular area. The basic premise was that for every percentage increase of the population, the muslim community would assert sharia on the non muslim community more. So at 10% you may get a muslim claiming racism or discrimination etc and demanding breaks for payer times and wash basins in public locations for washing feet before prayer, but at 20% you would get roving bands imposing sharia on the surrounding neighborhoods, and above that you get muslim demands for imposition of sharia on the rest of the population.

Looks like Britain is about at the level France was a few years ago, and parts of America are fast approaching.

And at over 60% they start purging the non-muslim population. In
Dearborn they intimidated the locals until they moved out. If they get to 80% all bets are off because that’s when they just start killing the non-muslim population because by that point all the law enforcement and courts are populated by muslims.

It ends in lots of death and destruction. When will we have our Charles Martell moment, will it be too late? There are 35 Muslim training camps in the United States. The FBI doesn’t raid a one of them. Yet some guy in Maryland has his neighbor report he is acting crazy and has guns and the full weight of the Maryland law enforcement, a helicopter, and two FBI tac teams arriving in armored cars are sent to “arrest” him.

Muslims are preparing accordingly to the type of warfare particular to a gun-culture country like the United States; and their lefty dhimmi allies are doing whatever they can to quell potential resistance. Does anyone think these Muslim militia intend on turning in their “assault weapons” in the case of a mass confiscation?

And too our Canadian and Australian brothers and sisters, I know you too are facing a British style incursion, but if Americans get disarmed, you can sure as heck bet that your last bulwark against armed aggression by a foreign enemy will be gone, I hope you are prepared to deal with it.

Hubris? Today’s Leftists are not known for their humility. I’m sure they think that they can make use of Islam, like Hitler and Stalin thought they could handle one another in the years before Operation Barbarossa.

I couldn’t care less. Most Brits are pompous a$$holes. They aren’t our friends, so if the Mooslims want to roam around whacking women for showing too much leg, good for them. Push the whining losers around. I’ll just point and laugh.

The company I worked for hired some Moslem students on a J-1 program (summer work, “cultural exposure”). The Moslems were such a pain in the neck the company notified the recruiters to avoid any and all Moslem areas.

While in the Pudget Sound area a few years back, I noticed a good bit of aggressively expressed tolerance for Moslems. This was decidedly NOT the case the last time I was down there. In fact, it seemed people were going out of their way to be indifferent to Moslem beliefs and rules. That’s in the middle of “Berkeley North”. Cannot imagine how they wore out their welcome so thoroughly (heheheheh).

I used to have a job that had me at the SeaTac airport almost daily. In the women’s restroom, especially in the mornings, there would be toilet water splashed on the toilet seats and stall floors from the Moslem women “washing their feet”, and my company, in its infinite wisdom and tolerance, had hired a number of Moslems AFTER 9/11, working in the airport. Many were Somali, they often conversed in Somali. The men wore ordinary American clothing, the women were all dressed in long dresses, with sandals and headscarves, even in winter. I emailed the King County health department several times about the unsanitary condition that the Moslem women created in the restrooms, but they never answered,and I changed jobs.And they had their own prayer room by the stairs,and the room smelled BAD,and they had their own Islamic prayers broadcast all over the building several times a day. LOUDLY. Think the airport authorities would have allowed a CHRISTIAN to play CHRISTIAN broadcasts loudly? NEVER. Perhaps these kinds of inconveniences soured the people of Washington against their foreign visitors.

I fear that Europeans will remain in denial about the problem until they are forced to face it, then they will resort to violence.

When fear of Islamization reaches a critical mass in Europe, the people will demand action. Mainstream political parties will resist, which will fuel the rise of extremists who will promise to make the streets safe again. Neo-fascists like the British National Party and the National Front in France will be swept into power on a platform of “Europe for Europeans”.

Mosques will be attacked
Muslim businesses will be burned
Islamist terror groups will respond in kind
The military will be sent into Mulslim controlled areas to keep order
Forcable deportations will begin
Muslim majority countries will support an Islamic insurgency
Russia will re-occupy parts of Eastern Europe to “stabilize” its western border
By 2050, Europe will be in flames
…again

I’ve thought along these lines before, as well. Remember, those Europeans who are so PC and passive today, are only a couple of generations removed from their ancestors who savagely fought each other for more than 1000 years and conquered the world. That DNA runs deep, and when this finally cracks, the proverbial shit will hit the fan. I lived in London for 2 years until recently, and I assure you that the average Brit, when away from their PC enforcers in the political and cultural “elite”, will willingly share with you how much they despise what has happened to their country. And that disgust is everywhere in Europe that I have seen.

Pity? The next time you feel like you have an important point to make, test it out first on a local school teacher, librarian, or pastor. If they lean their head to one side and squint, take that as a sign you might have missed the point.

Millions of welfare dependent demtard voters eager to turn the US into a third-world crap hole. BTW: do you run a gardening service? Or are you looking for a live-in nanny from El Salvador to sexually abuse? Those are some of the vry few good reasons to allow this collectivist rabble into the US.

Fact: G B Caucasians are not reproducing at a needed 2 [birth] to 1[death] ratio which is the minimum needed.
No doubts British Muslims are doin’ it like rabbits and makin lotsa’ Believers.
Who’s stopping them?
The Colonel Blimps are fast disappearing and no one speaks for jolly old blighty anymore.
So, in 20 years or so from now “Brit-Lims” are gonna have a bunch of armaments, Two aircraft carriers and oh-so much more…….
Oh, Goody……….

Looks like that whole multicultural diversity thing isn’t working out well in Britain or the rest of Europe. As a matter of fact, it’s not working here. Immigrants that are unwilling to assimilate are a threat to civilized western societies here and abroad. It’s not going away, it will only get worse.

Andrew Jackson, Henry Clay, and Abraham Lincoln had something in common, they believed that diverse cultures could not live together peacefully. Jackson sent the Indians to reservations while Clay and Lincoln considered having the US Government buy all the slaves and set up a free colony for them in South America. The government could not afford to buy the slaves and the idea was dropped. What we are seeing is a society they feared. Carl Sandberg’s biography of Lincoln (The War Years) details Lincoln’s proposal.

The world is large enough for multiculturalism, England is not.
There are enough muslim countries out there already. No, the problem is not racial, it is not ethnic, it is not really cultural.
The problem is PC. If these muslim children had been properly educated in British schools, none of this ‘tolerance’ for different lifestyles, punished when their behaviour was out of line, if the law would actually throw the book at muslim rapists – rather than being ‘understanding’ of their limitations, we might still have a chance.

Step one: Make first cousin marriages illegal. Most English people find this ikky at best, genetically, it is a catastrophe.
Step two: no more citizenship for young, non-English speaking brides from muslim countries. This is slavery anyway.
Step three: start enforcing treason laws, hate-speech laws are stupid, enticing to riot should be illegal, not stated that you dislike someone or something.

Genuine multiculturalism would let Britain keep its own culture. Instead, the word has become a pious disguise for erasing Western cultures. Leftists never insist that any other parts of the world need to be more multicultural.

As someone whose daughter is (for some unknown reason) married to a Brit, I can tell you that the UK has made BIG changes in the spouse visa system. You must have almost GBP19,000 pounds in income (or GBP 62,500 in liquid assets held more than six months in a bank account), pass the British version of a TOEFL Test, prove that you have sufficient lodgings and fulfil some very onerous paperwork requirements to get a visa.

So, the muslims simply show up on a plane and claim asylum. Full benefits all around!

This is what out of control Multi Culti, Political Correctness brings for you. But don’t get complacent USA because you already have your own BLACK and HISPANIC ‘no go’ areas in many cities and in Dearbornistan the worst of both worlds a Black/Islamic ‘no go’ area.
The Deem’o'crats and the USURPER with the willing sycophantic support of Left Wing moonbats and the Lame stream EneMedia are already softening you up for this to happen all over the USA too. ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT AMNESTY with no increase in border control being the first step.

Islam is at war with Western Democratic Judeo/Christian culture they say all the time and whats more PROVE it all the time too – WORLDWIDE. But just like the degenerate, antisocial, criminal, violent, murderous, misogynistic BLACK CULTURE that resides in most US inner cities Left Wing moonbats, Democrats (one and the same really) and the Lame Stream Enemedia just ignore it out of either Political Correctness gone mad or FEAR of being branded a Racist by the RACE HUSTLER INDUSTRY. The USURPER Barry HUSSEIN Soetero Kardashian and his corrupt evil REGIME however just USE this to their advantage and to demonize anyone who dares to tell the TRUTH.

It is perfectly possible to make your point without racist stereotyping, all you have to do is modify your description. There is too much of this (and anti-semitism) on Conservative sites; this site is rather better than the rest. We should leave racial terminology for the Left, the true home of bigotry.

Yet another Left Wing moonbat who wants to hide his head in the sand and try to pretend he can’t see the ‘Elephant in the room’ and not face the TRUTH. Whats the problem moonbat Political Correctness got your tongue or are you scared the RACE HUSTLERS will call you a Racist.
America’s degenerate, violent, misogynistic, criminal BLACK CULTURE problem is just like the Islamic menace if you can’t name the problem how can you fight it.

This is typical of what happens when you take the law abiding citizens’ guns away. Crime EXPLODES.
And the Moslems are a particularly lawless bunch, by Western standards,the more “fundamental” one being indistinguishable from a criminal gang. They have been taught by verses in the Koran that persecuting and even killing “unbelievers” and “sinners” is something that Allah wants them to do. The only way to “reform” such thinking is to meet it with daunting force and the will to wield it. The people of England and the rest of Europe have had the former forcibly taken from them, and so lost the latter. Jihad has come and gone in the past,and that particular genie has been forced into the bottle again and again whenever other countries rose up in ARMS and FOUGHT the Arabs and DEFEATED them. Only then, and never otherwise, would they go back home and leave others alone.

Is “street drinking” 100% legal throughout the USA then…that “hotbed” of Sharia Law?

As it is, I see, ILLEGAL too in all these other countries that now impose the Islamic Code:

CANADA
In Canada, with the exception of Quebec, possession of open containers of alcohol in public is generally a violation of provincial acts and municipal bylaws. Open liquor is not permitted except in private residences or on licensed premises.

FINLAND
In Finland drinking in public is prohibited in built areas (“taajama”), at border crossings, or in vehicles in use for public transport such as buses or trams.

SPAIN
Public drinking has been made illegal in Spain in 2002 in an effort to end the then-popular public drinking parties, botellones

ENGLAND AND WALES
In certain public places, one may be required (requested) to stop drinking. It is not illegal to drink in these areas, contrary to popular misconception, but, in these areas, if requested by police to stop drinking, one must (may) then stop drinking and surrender the alcohol, both open and closed containers.

Following the election of Boris Johnson as mayor of London, drinking on London public transportation was made illegal.

SCOTLAND
Consuming alcohol in a public place, excluding designated areas, is against the law and the offender could face a fine of up to £500 in some places.

UNITED STATES
Drinking in public is illegal in almost all jurisdictions in the United States, with this ban usually extending to include drinking within a moving car.

Laws against drinking in public are known as open container laws, as the presence of an open container of alcohol is seen as evidence of drinking in public and is far easier to witness and prove than the act of drinking.

Oops!

So it seems that this Mike McNally is either 100% correct or else partially correct and partially BULLSH1T

Scrolling down the main page for PJ Media, something jumped right off the screen. How do you suppose these roving gangs of Sharia vigilantes will feel about “British Lawmakers Back Gay Marriage Plans”.

Dave, the solution is to stand up for ALL women including the Muslim ones. Since Sharia is such a bad deal for the female half the population, it shouldn’t be that difficult to Westernize at least part of them. I would guess that real men who stand up for women, who have to learn to compete with other men to attract a mate, would have a big advantage over ill-mannered men from arranged marriage cultures.

If the locals don’t want it, they know what to do. If there were sufficient solidarity involving leaving the trash where you find it, and keeping your mouth shut, just on a numbers basis, the problem would disappear.

As it stands now, it is clearly a case of the elite running amok, so it should be obvious which way to go.

The situation will continue to deteriorate until the British Parliament repeals the laws disarming the citizens of Great Britain.
With organized Islamist Vigilantes now taking to the streets it will be incumbent upon civil authorities to take steps to arm citizenry [starting with all military veterans] against these predators that have been invited into their midst by misguided liberal policies.
The next step is to CLOSE THE MOSQUES in areas where this activity is occurring and to prepare necessary legislation for the immediate deportation of any person participating in these activities.

This is a little off topic, but some of the people here obviously know something about Britain, and have un PC points of view, so I was wondering, could anyone weigh in on why the economy in Britian is so horrible? My understanding is that GDP is still below 2007.

Is that mainly because of finance? Is it left wing economic policy? Family breakdown? Because per many of these comments, immigrants are not doing well?

It just seems to me that no one in the MSM is asking why is Britain doing so badly. We focus a lot on the U.S. and critics blame Obama, but some of these non-Southern European countries are also a mess. ZeroHedge discusses France occasionally. But I have never seen anything on Britain.

Holy mobster Moslems only hate infidels because the Qur’an says “god” orders them to – Period.

Islam is a threat to everyone because IT says it is.

ALL moslems are criminals because, by their own rules, they must endorse in public every word in the Qur’an.

And the Qur’an tells them that they are so “superior” to all non-moslem humans, that it’s not only their right, but also their holy duty to their god, to extort, enslave, and murder all the non-moslems in the world, simply for the “crime” of not being moslems.

So the Qur’an is a clearly-written, us-versus-them hate-crime book, endorsing a permanent might-makes-right death-threat.

Here’s islam’s “holy Message from god” as exemplified by the collective words and deeds of it’s Founder:

“I will save humanity by lying to, extorting, torturing, robbing, burning out of their homes, kidnapping and ransoming, enslaving, raping and murdering everyone who even only verbally disagrees with me – and you can, too!”

-Muhammad-

Muhammad was really only a con-man and bandit-king, an arch-criminal who always blamed “god” for his own penchant for committing crimes. If Moe got away with committing a crime (and he tried them all, enthusiastically, more than once, but instead of ever showing contrition, bragged about how much fun it was to commit them, and advised everyone else to join in the fun, too), then it was held to be “obvious” that “god” wanted him to get away with having committed those crimes!

So, islam is not a “religion” (at all, much less one “of peace”) nor is it a “race” (at all, much less one of “Poor, Oppressed, People Of Colour”)!

Obviously, islam is ONLY an ancient, ongoing extortion-racket CRIME-syndicate, and the only “religious” part in it, is where they say: