I'm sure I'll have an unpopular opinion here, but Lou and Marty reportedly had a long discussion yesterday or today about his future, and I'd welcome for Brodeur to get dealt. If that is what he wants, an opportunity to still play, and some team out there wants to give him that chance...then go for it.

Okay, maybe that wouldn't an unpopular opinion, but this might...It really wouldn't pain me to see him where another uniform either. In some ways it be kind of cool, especially if he got in the zone and played at a somewhat decent level of play. There is no more future for Brodeur in NJ (as an NHL goalie) anymore, but if there is for another organization...let's see it.

While Joe Montana on the Chiefs, Jordan on the Wizards, Emmitt Smith on the Cardinals or Orr on the Blackhawks doesn't seem right and didn't particularly end up well, it in no shape or form tarnish their legacy with the 49ers, Bulls, Cowboys, or Bruins in any way. It was really inconsequential. So would Brodeur going to another team. The idea of Brodeur playing every game of his entire career as a Devil is irrelevant to me. Leaving in 2014 is a lot different than leaving in say 2004 or even 2010.

NOW, why would another team really want Brodeur...I don't see it, but who knows.

Yeah, if the Devils don't make the playoffs, but Marty's new team does, I would likely root for his team.

Agree, in that the idea of Marty potentially not playing every single minute of his career as a Devil simply doesn't bother me at all. These things can't just be looked at in a vacuum. It's very clearly Cory's job now. It's probably very difficult for Marty to take, but at the same time, I think he understands WHY. I also hope he understands and appreciates that the Devils were as fair to him as they could possibly be (and to Marty's credit, he did have some stretches of good play), but that they had to draw the line somewhere.

As far as why another team would want him...I do believe sometimes GMs make "presence" moves. From a strictly "on paper" standpoint, I agree, I really don't know why anyone should expect Marty to be anything but what he's been for a while now: inconsistent...maybe a slight bet to pitch a shutout or have a big game, but a better bet to be anywhere from mediocre to bad. The funny thing is I'm not really sure his presence would be the best thing. For one, Marty would clearly expect to play more...if he was OK with not playing much, I'd think he's just stay here...I'm guessing he'd be expecting at least half of the starts on a new team. For another, I'm not sure if a goalie having a "meh" season who may be prone to self-doubt or confidence issues would benefit by having someone "behind" him who doesn't think of himself as a backup, but as a legitimate candidate to take the job away.

This issue has to be resolved for the team. If another team will take him good.

I think the issue has already been resolved. Cory is the #1, the team accepts it, and even if Marty isn't necessarily thrilled about the idea, he is not complaining about it or making it a daily distraction in the papers.

Edited by Colorado Rockies 1976, 10 February 2014 - 07:24 AM.

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I think the issue has already been resolved. Cory is the #1, the team accepts it, and even if Marty isn't necessarily thrilled about the idea, he is not complaining about it or making it a daily distraction in the papers.

I don't think LD considers the issue "resolved" until Marty has been thoroughly embarrassed and sent somewhere to lose the remainder of his games. This is pretty much Christmas Eve for him.

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I just hope he goes somewhere where he doesn't have to play the Devils this year, particularly at the Rock.

I hope he does play us if he goes to another team. We'd get two points for sure.

..two possible outcomes to that one..
#1) Marty playing possessed turns the clock back and has an outstanding night. 33 shot shutout, named first star of the game, and the Brodeur supporters drown out the others with frenzy cheering. #2) Marty gets lit-up! The Devils team know his tendencies too well, and they put 4 past him after only the 1st period. Marty gets the hook to start the 2nd, and the angry Devil fans drown out the Brodeur supporters with chants of: "Cory's Better!"

..two possible outcomes to that one..
#1) Marty playing possessed turns the clock back and has an outstanding night. 33 shot shutout, named first star of the game, and the Brodeur supporters drown out the others with frenzy cheering. #2) Marty gets lit-up! The Devils team know his tendencies too well, and they put 4 past him after only the 1st period. Marty gets the hook to start the 2nd, and the angry Devil fans drown out the Brodeur supporters with chants of: "Cory's Better!"

The majority of Devils fans would NEVER troll Marty. The few that would are embarrassments to the Devil fanbase. If he had a rough night, I think most fans would give him a "We still remember all of the good you've done" sympathetic round of applause.

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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime? - Most priceless quote ever posted on a message board.

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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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..two possible outcomes to that one..
#1) Marty playing possessed turns the clock back and has an outstanding night. 33 shot shutout, named first star of the game, and the Brodeur supporters drown out the others with frenzy cheering. #2) Marty gets lit-up! The Devils team know his tendencies too well, and they put 4 past him after only the 1st period. Marty gets the hook to start the 2nd, and the angry Devil fans drown out the Brodeur supporters with chants of: "Cory's Better!"

yeah if Marty wants out that's fine with me, he's earned that and I won't look at his devils career any differently, but yeah I really hope he never actually plays against us.

The majority of Devils fans would NEVER troll Marty. The few that would are embarrassments to the Devil fanbase. If he had a rough night, I think most fans would give him a "We still remember all of the good you've done" sympathetic round of applause.

Based on their maturity and many of the posts here, most of our fan base was in diapers when Marty was doing everything he'll be remembered for.

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Yeah, if the Devils don't make the playoffs, but Marty's new team does, I would likely root for his team.

As far as why another team would want him...I do believe sometimes GMs make "presence" moves. From a strictly "on paper" standpoint, I agree, I really don't know why anyone should expect Marty to be anything but what he's been for a while now: inconsistent...maybe a slight bet to pitch a shutout or have a big game, but a better bet to be anywhere from mediocre to bad. The funny thing is I'm not really sure his presence would be the best thing. For one, Marty would clearly expect to play more...if he was OK with not playing much, I'd think he's just stay here...I'm guessing he'd be expecting at least half of the starts on a new team. For another, I'm not sure if a goalie having a "meh" season who may be prone to self-doubt or confidence issues would benefit by having someone "behind" him who doesn't think of himself as a backup, but as a legitimate candidate to take the job away.

You shouldn't make a presence move for a soon to be 42-year-old goalie. This isn't bringing in a Mike Modano to be a 12th forward. This is the most important position in the NHL. Bringing in a goalie of Brodeur's pedigree just complicates things. It doesn't send a good message to whoever your starter is (if the starter is playing well or poorly).

If you trade for Brodeur, you better be comfortable with him getting in games. You need a damn good team, so Chicago is really the only team that makes much sense to me as an emergency option. But is that something Brodeur wants?

Edited by devilsrule33, 10 February 2014 - 10:27 AM.

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I can't underestimate the ability of GMs to overestimate the distant past for the recent past, but like dr33 said - you're not bringing him in to be a backup, he is already a backup here. I think Lou goes around and tries to see where the interest is and if he comes back with nothing, Brodeur might think about retiring at the end of the year.

I think people are confusing; respect & understanding. I respect Marty for what he's accomplished over his Hall of Fame career. But do I understand the motive in all of this? --absolutely not! Likewise.. I respect fans opinion(s) be it one way or the other. If a scenario occurred where Brodeur returned to the Rock to play the devils on another team, and fans applauded him with cheers.. that's their right to do so, and I totally understand that. However, having said that, this is a sport. And when you're dealing with sports, you have passion & emotion. To the fans that are extremely hurt over all of this, to the point where they may serenade Marty with boo's, I understand that stance as well.

This isn't exactly the analogy\comparison as Montana\Favre like some on this board are trying to make it out to be. Montana & Favre didn't leave their teams to go be backup QB's somewhere else.. they went to be starters. If Brodeur pulled this sh!t 4 years ago, I'd have MORE of an understanding than today, because at least I could rest on the rationale of; Marty can still start @ 37 years old. But that's not happening here. Wherever Marty goes, it's highly unlikely he'll be anything else but a backup. Thus, the question must be asked; "why go to another team and be a backup, when you can do that here and support Cory?" the way so many others have supported you? Furthermore, why not at least wait 'till after the season to go elsewhere, instead of creating a distraction? It isn't like the Devils are whale-sh!t with no hope in making the post-season. We're 3 points out. So I can't even see the excuse of; "well, Marty wants to leave to make the playoffs and try to win a Cup." --when the Devils as a team are still fighting and mathematically alive to make it.

You shouldn't make a presence move for a soon to be 42-year-old goalie. This isn't bringing in a Mike Modano to be a 12th forward. This is the most important position in the NHL. Bringing in a goalie of Brodeur's pedigree just complicates things. It doesn't send a good message to whoever your starter is (if the starter is playing well or poorly).

If you trade for Brodeur, you better be comfortable with him getting in games. You need a damn good team, so Chicago is really the only team that makes much sense to me as an emergency option. But is that something Brodeur wants?

We're in agreement. That's basically what my post said...any GM who think Brodeur's "former champion" pedigree will translate into something positive is probably opening a can of worms.

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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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We're in agreement. That's basically what my post said...any GM who think Brodeur's "former champion" pedigree will translate into something positive is probably opening a can of worms.

More importantly, any GM that really feels that way, probably doesn't have a good team to begin with.

I understood the interest from other teams after the end of the 2011-2012 season. And I could understand it if his win-loss record last year and this year were good despite the the subpar save percentage. But even the wins aren't really coming anymore. And when they do, you need to score at least 3 goals for him.

I think at this point, the only thing that's going to keep him holding on after this season is some desire to compile more wins and shutouts. Even with a bad team next year, he should be able to eek out enough wins to get to 700 and tack on another shut out or two. But ultimately, he'll probably realize that his wins and shutout record won't be eclipsed by any goalie that's currently playing, and he'll hang it up after this year.

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More importantly, any GM that really feels that way, probably doesn't have a good team to begin with.

I understood the interest from other teams after the end of the 2011-2012 season. And I could understand it if his win-loss record last year and this year were good despite the the subpar save percentage. But even the wins aren't really coming anymore. And when they do, you need to score at least 3 goals for him.

I think at this point, the only thing that's going to keep him holding on after this season is some desire to compile more wins and shutouts. Even with a bad team next year, he should be able to eek out enough wins to get to 700 and tack on another shut out or two. But ultimately, he'll probably realize that his wins and shutout record won't be eclipsed by any goalie that's currently playing, and he'll hang it up after this year.

I'd consider him an underdog to make it to 700 because he's not going to get many more this year - let's say he wins 3 more games this year. That gives him 685. He has to win 15 games next year - he's always an injury risk and any team bad enough to give him consistent starts isn't going to be good enough to get him the 3 goals a game he will need to win games, and he'll need to avoid being an embarrassment (he could easily start out something like 2-8-2 with an .890 SV%). I'd consider him an underdog to get to 700 next year unless he wins 6 or 7 this year.

I can't underestimate the ability of GMs to overestimate the distant past for the recent past, but like dr33 said - you're not bringing him in to be a backup, he is already a backup here. I think Lou goes around and tries to see where the interest is and if he comes back with nothing, Brodeur might think about retiring at the end of the year.

I just remember the Nonis was badly trying to inquire Kiprusoff last season when he had two goalies in Reimer and Scrivens that were much much much much better. That was hilarious. Kipper's numbers were much worse than Brodeur's.

Maybe there is a team or a GM crazy enough.

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"The Stanley Cup has fallen from the Stars. The new millennium has its first Stanley Cup Champion, and it's the New Jersey Devils." Mike Miller calling the Devils winning the Stanley Cup.

"It goes to the captain and then there are handoffs during a skate around the ice" Mike Emrick as Scott Stevens is being presented the Stanley Cup.

I think people are confusing; respect & understanding. I respect Marty for what he's accomplished over his Hall of Fame career. But do I understand the motive in all of this? --absolutely not! Likewise.. I respect fans opinion(s) be it one way or the other. If a scenario occurred where Brodeur returned to the Rock to play the devils on another team, and fans applauded him with cheers.. that's their right to do so, and I totally understand that. However, having said that, this is a sport. And when you're dealing with sports, you have passion & emotion. To the fans that are extremely hurt over all of this, to the point where they may serenade Marty with boo's, I understand that stance as well.

This isn't exactly the analogy\comparison as Montana\Favre like some on this board are trying to make it out to be. Montana & Favre didn't leave their teams to go be backup QB's somewhere else.. they went to be starters. If Brodeur pulled this sh!t 4 years ago, I'd have MORE of an understanding than today, because at least I could rest on the rationale of; Marty can still start @ 37 years old. But that's not happening here. Wherever Marty goes, it's highly unlikely he'll be anything else but a backup. Thus, the question must be asked; "why go to another team and be a backup, when you can do that here and support Cory?" the way so many others have supported you? Furthermore, why not at least wait 'till after the season to go elsewhere, instead of creating a distraction? It isn't like the Devils are whale-sh!t with no hope in making the post-season. We're 3 points out. So I can't even see the excuse of; "well, Marty wants to leave to make the playoffs and try to win a Cup." --when the Devils as a team are still fighting and mathematically alive to make it.

Keep in mind this is all still speculation on our parts. Marty hasn't actually come out and said "Trade me somewhere" yet.

Marty has given the Devils more for one team than anyone else EVER in the NHL. It's not even close. He's clearly lost the starting job and won't ever get it back unless something catastrophic happens (basically Cory suffering a serious injury)...the way Schneider is playing, even a downturn in his play will probably still be better than what Marty can do at his best. I don't understand how the fans have any right to be extremely hurt if he decides that he may have a better chance to start somewhere else, when the end is coming very quickly. You could be right, in that maybe he doesn't get to start all that much for someone else, but at least somewhere else maybe he has more of a shot to. Here he has NO shot, barring absolute disaster.

Another possible scenario (and this one blows) is that the Devils suck right after the break and basically kill any chance they had of making the playoffs, Marty decides to stay, and the Devils start Marty in roughly 50% of the remaining games as one last bone-throw. If that were to happen, I'd try to approach those games as seeing the last act of a great career and try to enjoy them, but I'd hate the events that led up to it (and probably the results of those starts as well).

Edited by Colorado Rockies 1976, 10 February 2014 - 10:57 AM.

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THE NHL MUST LOVE THE DEVILS - from who else? A RANGER fan![Mark Messier]: A big, bald attention whore with a stupid Easter Island-lookin face. - from who else? DaneykoIsGod!

Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime? - Most priceless quote ever posted on a message board.

Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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