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Trying to build a deck around hollowed one and Riddleform. Seem like 2 extremely oppressive cards that immediately present an early threat, backed up with counters and combat tricks. One small trick I like is the Aftermath of Farm // market with hollowed one or cunning survivor on the field. Would love to see any suggestions, thanks guys.

Also, I'm trying to avoid anything from BFZ-EMN so nothing rotates in September

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I would cut your Cunning Survivor for Countervailing Winds or another utility creature. Riddleform is an evasive enough threat that you might not need the additional threat, and that change would boost your cycling percentage, which seems a little low here.

July 17, 2017
10:46 a.m.

landofMordor Thanks for the comment! I had a lot of trouble on whether or not to keep thew winds in, its definitely more of a control card and I dont know if I'd like to go tempo or control yet. In my testing I found I got a lot more out of the Cunning Survivor than the winds. I have a playset of each so I'll definitley try out subing that in for few test matches. Thanks again man

July 17, 2017
3:34 p.m.

Hey friend. I think you're right -- none of those look perfect for what your deck is doing. I could see 3-4 slots for New Perspectives or Abandoned Sarcophagus, but only as a value engine in case something goes wrong. This deck still wants to be a zoo-like aggro experience with some serious control backing it up. If anything, you could cut Pull from Tomorrow for one of those, since they fill up a similar slot in your list.

July 17, 2017
4:21 p.m.

Oh wait just checked your SB. I think you should cut your Defeat cycles and your Splendor. The first two are too narrow (unless Gideon AoZ is prevalent in your meta), and Splendor is too expensive (put it in an EDH deck and wreck someone's day). You can find slots there to grind against control or add threats in a race situation, I think.

July 17, 2017
4:23 p.m.

Gideon is definitely prevalent here, but I was a little iffy on the Jace. I'll throw a Pull from Tomorrow in sideboard and add the New Perspectives into main. I like your thinking! Thanks for all the help :)

July 17, 2017
4:28 p.m.

I have a deck that is purely based around cycling, so it's a little different than yours, but I have found Countervailing Winds to be an incredible counterspell. Our decks work the same in that we cycle things sometimes, which allows cards to get into our graveyards, and you cast a lot of instant and sorceries which get into your graveyard. You wouldn't think it would end up being good, but it can get to impossible for an opponent to pay for by turn 5, so I would really suggest Including it. Here's my deck if you're interested: You Remember That Censor I Cycled... It is BU so some different cards but it still might be useful. I like your deck though!

July 18, 2017
11:29 a.m.

July 24, 2017
11:58 a.m.

You might wish to rethink the combination of riddleform and U/W control. Most of the spells and abilities you use happen during your opponent's turn (counteres, draw, bounce, cycling). In this regard, Riddleform is a 2 mana enchantment with text reading, "waste this card.

July 24, 2017
10:36 p.m.

inkstorm, Thanks for the input! I did feel in my testing that i didnt get enough use out of it. I wanted it to be the card I built the deck around, but it felt like I never used it. I think you're right, but I dont know which way to take the deck. What would my wincon be?

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