Quick-Scoping ‘Won’t Be Viable’ in Call of Duty: Ghosts, According to IW Executive Producer

“Quick-scoping” – the ability aim down the scope of a sniper rifle quickly, taking out an opponent with little to no adjustment period – has always been a major point of contention among the Call of Duty community since the “play style” first appeared in the original Modern Warfare and became a ‘thing’ by the time Modern Warfare 2 rolled along.

Since then, the argument over the legitimacy of the play style – is it a proper way to play Call of Duty, or is it just an unintended glitch? – seems to have split the community right in two; the lovers and haters.

Between developers Infinity Ward and Treyarch, we’ve seen varying outlooks on the matter. While Treyarch has been known to steer away from the idea, their latest entry, Black Ops 2, appeared a little more open to it, allowing players to “quick-scope” more easily than in the original Black Ops or even World at War. Infinity Ward, on the other hand, seems to have always welcomed the idea with open arms in the Modern Warfare series, considering it a legitimate style of play.

So, with Infinity Ward’s latest project, Call of Duty: Ghosts, on the horizon, players are once again asking, “can you quick-scope?” I tried to answer that very question in a recent Q&A video, in which I even attempt a little bit of “quick-scoping” myself, but those of us who have had the fortunate chance to get our hands on the game will agree that our time was very limited.

IW executive producer Mark Rubin will tell you, however, that Sniper Rifles sure are different in Call of Duty: Ghosts. In fact, in a recent Twitter entry, he even goes as far as to answer the age old question and explain the state of “quick-scoping” in Call of Duty: Ghosts. What he had to say was rather interesting.

Update/Clarification regarding Sniper Rifles:

One of the areas that is getting lot of love in Call of Duty: Ghosts is the Sniper Rifle. By creating the Marksman class we were able to focus the Sniper class on really powerful high-caliber weapon systems. We feel, and many of the pro players who have played would agree, that sniping has never been better.

The changes we’ve made, like dual render scopes and increased damage really make snipers a great competitive class to use. We’ve also done a lot with map design (sight lines and cover) to ensure that all classes are viably effective. Both short range and long range classes will be effective on the same maps.

However in re-envisioning sniper rifles some aspects, such as sway timing, have changed the way sniper rifles function and so traditional ‘quick-scoping’ has been affected. Is it gone completely? Maybe. It certainly won’t be viable in the way it previously was. Can’t wait for you snipers out there to get your hands on these new sniper rifles and try them out for yourselves.

See you in game!
-Mark

So, there you have it. “Quick-scoping”, in the traditional sense, “…won’t be viable in the way it previously was,” in Call of Duty: Ghosts. What do you guys think about Rubin’s answer? Is it a play style you have adopted over the years and are very passionate about? Is it something you wish had no part in the game at all? Are you happy or sad to learn about its potential disappearance in Ghosts?

don’t count your chickens yet…remember when 3ARCH said that they were ‘improving knifing”?

Gaming2Ghost

how much can knifes be overpowerd than what it is right now? I think knifes are one of the strongest weapons in CoD

dieger

actually 3arch ruined knifing the knifing in GHOSTS actually looks like an improvement (even if it copied BF). BO2 just made the knifes inaccurate as hell…not improving it just made them shit

Zatanna XOXOXOXO

Yes because if anything looks remotely similar to something done in another game then it must be copying. So I guess Farcry three copied BF too seeing as how it has some melee animations. And BF copied any other game that had something remotely similar in the past right (I know BF3 could not have possibly been the first game to do that)?

dieger

actually i believe the first game to have scripted knife takedowns in online match was battlefield bad company…..if you can name another game before bad company’s release. notice i didn’t say that it copied BF3

http://www.facebook.com/datkidfromawendaw Clay Johnson

Didn’t that guy also steal dog tags in that trailer? Dogtag trophies date back to 2008 with Battlefield 2142. Knifing is one thing as every fps has melee, but this is as big a copycat as Apple with iOS 5.1, blatantly copying the pull down notification center that Android OS has always had while the drones laud Apple for “innovation” But its cool though, incorporating ideas from the superior product only makes the lesser of the bunch better. Hell it need not even be a superior product, ad Battlefield 4 “High Value Target” mechanic in its entirety comes directly from Homefront.

CoDforever

Exactly, how did Cod copy BF ? BF copied panic knifing in the first place and even tho and the only time you can say it copied BF is when he steals his dog tags while knifing him.

CoDforever

how did Cod copy BF ? BF copied panic knifing in the first place and even tho and the only time you can say it copied BF is when he steals his dog tags while knifing him.

dieger

“BF copied panic knifing in the first place” O_o what?

roland0811

A long range class in Call of Duty? What’s the point? My front lawn is bigger than most of the maps they put CoD now.

James Mulhall

The maps for WaW were perfect in terms of long range and close range combat.

Katana67

The one with the large belltower, I forget the name, could’ve handled 32 players easily. Great map.

James Mulhall

Ah, Outskirts? Brilliant map. I personally loved Airfield the most.

MegaMan3k

I felt like WAW balanced “big maps” and “small maps” well. Russia/Germany maps were usually large (Downfall? Outskirts? That bridge one?) and the USMC/Japan maps were usually tight CQB style maps (Castle was GREAT. Airfield was pretty good. That … other air-field was pretty good too – Hangar?)

Mr. Thuggins

Of course your front lawn is bigger. It’s not information packed into a disc or stored in a hard drive.

HazeWulfDemonic

Ha~

IceKoldKilla

One name: BATTLEFIELD 3

Mr. Thuggins

It’s a fun game. What’s your point?

CoDforever

Its garbage on consoles

roland0811

Frontlines: Fuel of War was WAY better.

http://www.facebook.com/datkidfromawendaw Clay Johnson

Ahh man I miss this game. A few people actually still play online on 360 but dedicated server support is kaput! 50 player online action, vehicles big maps, not BFBC2 style destruction but way more so than CoD. Home front was cool but Front lines was the better of the two IMO and was more fun than Cheats or Deathstreaks

roland0811

The most epic thing I’ve seen in a shooter on Xbox was on the DLC map Hindsight. 50 players, 8 jets in the air dogfighting and dropping cluster bombs. Helicopters and armor moving in formation to an objective. That map was so big it had a neutral airfield as an objective. Take Battlefield’s biggest map and multiply it by at least 10x in length and width. One of the best shooters I’ve played on Xbox alongside GRAW 2 and OFP: Dragon Rising.

http://www.facebook.com/datkidfromawendaw Clay Johnson

Ahh dude so much feels I almost want to shed a tear! That game in my opinion felt more like Battlefield than any Battlefield game on console. It’s also good to know you also played OFP. I enjoyed that game back when I didn’t have home internet. I had to play through the plethora of bugs, most notably the one on e night time overwatch at an oil facility (?) And you had to wait 5 minutes for backup. I waited 20 before they finally showed up and I could progress on the mission lol.

roland0811

Hell yeah! I’ve been saying that since BF3 came out. It did BF3 on consoles better than BF3 did AND was three years before it. Ha! FoW was so damn epic. And OFP was buggy as hell on release but damn the firefights in that game felt awesome. The enemy AI didn’t mess around. Best co-op experience since GRAW and RSV. XD

Jacob Hannah

Amen.. I still go and play that game from time to time. People still play it believe it or not.

roland0811

I’d get on but the 8vs8 just doesn’t compare to a full 50-player server. RIP Kaos….

I’ve never felt that CoD was conducive to Sniper gameplay….its just
the nature of the game personally that I feel is not created for it.

Now….*are*
you able to snipe? Yes of course but there is a difference in a few
titles when it comes to sniping as opposed to CoD series. I don’t know
I’ve just always felt like this especially considering I live and die as
a Sniper in any FPS that even remotely allows it.

The
other interesting aspect (and I assume naturally that it is for visual
integrity) are Sniper Scope Reticles lol…there is really no need for
them other than a default ‘crosshair’ design given that bullets in CoD
behave literally like lasers. This isn’t an attack on CoD (I love it,
don’t get me wrong) but I just thought of this yesterday lol.

A Milli

play the castle map.

roland0811

My comment was before Ghosts came out. Also, I used the word ‘MOST’, not ‘ALL’.
Feel stupid yet?
And if that’s your definition of a big map you must never play other, better shooters.

ABC

probably they are trolling. Remember 2 years ago when Bowling said “F u last stand!!” but turned out that FINAL stand was in the game……

dieger

thanks based bowling/vondahaar

Dirtknap

I thought of that example too. Perhaps quick scoping with sniper rifles won’t be viable on Ghosts, but that’s why they’ve introduced a whole new weapon class in the marksman category. The horror D:

CoDforever

Rubin said it this time . Rubin never lied before tho

Keshav Bhat

Um….Bowling doesn’t work at IW since March 2012, so I don’t think the same thing will happen ever again.

CoDforever

Hey charlieI .. Could you unblock me pls ? I promise i wont spam on charlieintel again lol

uwantSAM0A

Quickscoping is the new “camping”. It will never go away like it or not.

HH KiLLaMaNiLLa

It will if people keep getting they’re ass handed to them while trying to do so and as far as camping that will never die if anything it has plagued every good FPS online shooter. All it is people who suck dick at playing the game legitimately and have to sit in a corner to catch people off guard for easy kills that require no skill at all. And this has gotten worse with every COD release which makes me excited to play Cranked it promotes running and gunning which is what makes COD what it truly is a fast paced Run and Gun game.

zacflame

No, they are two separate things.
Quickscoping is taking advantage of the time in-between ADS and hip-fire with high-damage weapons that were designed for only long ranges in order to make them an overpowered beast at any range.
Camping, really has two definitions, one reasonable and one cruel.

The first is the most overused and, in my opinion, should never be considred “camping”. This is when you stand still for over 3 seconds while not AFK, while paying close attention to your surroundings.
The second is when you block every (or as many as you can)entrance to a non-objective building or structure with traps, usually with automatically detonating mines (IE. claymores).

uwantSAM0A

My point was that they’re both here to stay not that they’re the same exact thing.

zacflame

One is a player tactic that can work in any game.
One is a specific game mechanic exploit.

WarBroh

Kiddies won’t be able to quickscope-360spin-dolphindive? Awwwwww. Way to spoil xXxSniperY0L0SwagxXx dreams of once joyous young minds

Mr. Thuggins

If you’re going to troll, be an accurate troll. That’s way too many characters for an XBL gamertag.

Not initially but, as people started to attempt to gang up on me, then yes.

CoDforever

Alright chill out it was just a joke lol

Mr. Thuggins

You people are terrible at reading emotions over the Internet.

Dot

You people are terrible at reserving your emotions on the internet.

Rave

“Accurate trolls”? i didn’t know trolls were suppose to be accurate lol

Mr. Thuggins

Humor is reality. The closer you are to reality, the funnier you are. His comment is funny sarcasm alone, but if it was accurate, it would be even better.

Gannon

Come on now… I get what your saying, but I really don’t think it detracts from the humor if he goes over the amount of characters available for a gamertag.
Seems to me that WarBroh wasn’t the one trolling…

Mr. Thuggins

Far from trolling. I have way better things to do with my time, like commenting on other gaming news sites. I’m off to go be unproductive.

Zatanna XOXOXOXO

Like Gannon said, while extreme inaccuracy often detracts from humor I don’t see how a few to many characters makes that any less funny. You’re just being really picky over something that was actually quite amusing, and is all true aside from the too many characters part as I have seen countless names similar to that on both 360 and PS3.

Mr. Thuggins

You could’ve saved yourself some time and just left a down-vote. I get it, you all disagree with me.

Gannon

You could’ve saved yourself some time and just left a down-vote.

Mr. Thuggins

Refer to my unproductive comment, sir.

Gannon

Which unproductive one?

Zatanna XOXOXOXO

You could have saved us all time and just downvoted the joke instead of being petty and starting this whole thread ;).

Mr. Thuggins

…so how long have you two been dating? It’s really cute how you two are standing up for each other

Zatanna XOXOXOXO

Haha no, what I am “standing up” against is your complete and utter douchebaggery that applies to most of the commetns you leave not just these ones. And the fact that most of your counter arguments also applies to yourself, which puts you out to be very hypocritical. Instead of being rude and causing problems you should take your own advice and just downvote.

Mr. Thuggins

I think you’re mistaking my light-hearted jesting for something more malicious. No need for name calling, video game discussions are not that serious.

Gannon

Oh no. You’re confused…He just doesn’t like you or your expert advice on humor.

Also if that was “jesting”, I think you may need to find a new profession other than counseling on others humor.

Mr. Thuggins

It really is cute how you two defend each so ferociously.

Gannon

You mentioned that. You must still be confused.

Mr. Thuggins

I am confused, but only because I have idea you keep saying I’m confused. Never claimed to be an expert of any sort but, thank you for suggesting as much.

Gannon

Try that one again, bub.

Mr. Thuggins

Do I need to slow it down?

Gannon

You might, so that your sentences are grammatically correct.

Mr. Thuggins

Have you lost your arguing point?

Gannon

Yeah man, it’s really hard to comment back to a sentence that doesn’t make any sense. Kinda weird.

Mr. Thuggins

All you have to do is ask. I’m here to help.

IceKoldKilla

WTF?! Just admit you fucking made a stupid reply! You keep reply to everyone and saying you’re gonna leave or just tell people to down vote. Why didn’t YOU do it to begin with? You would make sense in another situation maybe but I REALLY doubt people laughed less because of a couple characters. Who even knows how many characters are allowed? Unless you make a new account every time you change “clans” in CoD like 13 year olds.

Mr. Thuggins

Lol I’m surprised you actually read through all of this crap. I’m completely joking and this is purely for entertainment. Take a deep breath and lower your blood pressure.

Zatanna XOXOXOXO

Whether you intend it or not I have seen many people get offended/upset at some of your comments, you need to realize that your definition of joking may be another person’s definition of offensive or rude. Joking stops being joking when you insult somebody and they take legitimate offense to it.

Mike Limpus

This makes me laugh.

Aaron Likes Cookies

Quickscoping is utter garbage. People should learn to use the sniper rifle the way it’s suppose to be used, even if it’s on small-ass maps like CoD. A sniper rifle is not a semi-automatic rifle that is carried around thoughout the map. It’s meant for long distance, precise kills not for bs trickshots. As much as I want to believe quickscoping is gone for good in Ghosts, quickscopers will eventually find a way around it

CoDforever

That’s why they brought marksman rifles

zacflame

chance of buying ghosts prior to this post: 5%
chance of buying ghosts after this post: 15%

oofy

a 200% increase!!!

Rob

chance of buying ghosts prior to this post: 0%
chance of buying ghosts after this post: 0%

mechcell

The chance of me buying ghosts prior to this post: .001%
and chance of buying ghosts after this post: 1 %

zacflame

Be real, though.
If you’ve ever played a CoD game, you have at least 1%,no matter how bad ghosts looks. And, if you haven’t and you just hate it for no reason, then that is a shame.

Oblivion_Lost667

What if people didn’t like other CoD games? I have a 0% chance of wanting to buy Ghosts, I don’t know anyone who will be getting the game, I don’t want to dump $59.99 on a game like CoD, it’s too much. CoD games pretty much NEVER go on sale, even on PC, it’s a rarity, or if they do it’s after the next iteration is out/nearing release, so the majority of the player base is going to swap to the new one, so why would I get the CoD game that has a small amount of players, or the players that do play it are all prestiged and clearly going to have an advantage? On top of the fact that the eSports bit of the newer title will most likely have a lot bigger crowd as well. (Not that it’s hard to level up in CoD, but the fact stands.)

zacflame

Well, then it’s mostly their fault for only have played the past 2.

Oblivion_Lost667

Why only the last 2? There are people out there that don’t like games set in the pre-1960s -1900s, so wouldn’t have liked any of the early CODs, plus the other crowd that doesn’t like FPS games (Albeit it’s a bit small.). They all could’ve tried the games, but didn’t like them, for a variety of reasons, hence 0% is perfectly viable.

Split screen is a major player for some people. Him saying he does not share interest in this game does not make him “retarded”, your inability to accept (that does not mean you have to agree, just accept) other’s opinions on anything that is even remotely anti-COD just makes you look immature.

CoDforever

Good point .. now look at the comment before his, and then check the first reply

Zatanna XOXOXOXO

Ok, they were saying they have a low chance buying it that in no way justifies the rudeness and offensiveness of your reply. You say the reason you don’t get upvotes is because of “COD+Minecraft+GTA” but in reality it is because you are a jerk. Just because they say they are not going to buy Ghosts does not mean they are BF fanboys or that they are “retarded”. Just the fact that you think that someone must be mentally challenged just because they disagree with you is ludicrous.

CoDforever

He said he had 0% chance buying the game before this news, 0 % after this news, why comment then? Rude and offensive ? what are you, the internet blog police ? lol chillout

Zatanna XOXOXOXO

And? That makes him mentally retarded in what way? How does someone stating that they have no interest in a game justify you calling names? It doesn’t make any sense. Like I said the reason you don’t get upvotes is because you are a jerk, not because you advocate for CoD.

CoDforever

I COUDNT FINISH MY BIO LOOOL IT WAS SUPPOSED TO SAY “Huge CoD fan. Doesn’t mean i play other games. I personally dislike battlefield. Im also on the road to becoming a prof. CoD player. I have so many comments and so little upvotes because i mostly reply to idiotic BF fanboys which, ofcourse, think their game is the best game ever.”

Zatanna XOXOXOXO

That didn’t answer my question. Have you read your comments? You are often rude and insulting, that is the reason you get downvotes not because you you dislike BF. I shall ask again, how does him saying he does not have interest in Ghosts warrant you calling him retarded? Admit that you are often rude, as I know I have downvoted you countless times and it was not because you dislike BF.

CoDforever

I only get downvotes on mp1st, when i go to charlieintel and comment “cod >BF” it gets like 30 upvotes and like 1 downvote .. only reason i dont do that anymore cuz im banned from charlieintel for spam LOL.

Zatanna XOXOXOXO

Well to be fair if you actually posted something constructive you may get some up votes. It is not needed for you to post “cod>BF” and every BF and CoD article. When you are not posting that on every single article you are posting rude replies to other’s opinions like above. You still have yet to justify yourself for being a complete and utter jackass, and before you say it them down voting you is no reason to be rude.

CoDforever

“chance of buying ghosts prior to this post: 0%
chance of buying ghosts after this post: 0%”

LOL and this is constructive ?

Zatanna XOXOXOXO

It’s more constructive than posting “CoD>BF” on every single article, hell you even posted that on a BL2 article and at least they are not being rude about it. You go onto BF articles and not only insult they game (which is ok) but the people who like it. You must be very desperate for attention.

CoDforever

And tbh, i dont care what you think about me, what are you like 9 ?

Zatanna XOXOXOXO

Why do you insist on posting on every BF article if you hate it so much? That is telling me you are just looking for reactions. Actually I am 19 and female lol. But that is besides the point. Why don’t you just make another account so you can go back to Charlie Intel, because all you are here is a nuisance that doesn’t contribute anything. Yes this site has many “BF fanboys” but that is irrelevant to the fact that you are the one causing problems here not them, and CharlieIntel is just as bad just in the opposite manner, as most people that are there are CoD fanboys. Plus I am sure there is a jackass equivalent to you there except they would be called “BFforever” and all they would ever post on every article is “BF>CoD” even when the article has nothing to do with BF.

Zatanna XOXOXOXO

Yeah I’m totally nine, and yet I am far more reasonable and able to use the English language properly while you can’t do/are not either of those things. Hmmmmmm.

CoDforever

I never said anything about ppl that downvote me.. ik all of them are bf fanboys lol idgaf

CoDforever

dude the internet is a cold and ruthless place .. dont use it if you cant handle other ppl that do ..

Well the sentence in your bio cuts off and the way it is set up makes it look like that is the finish to the sentence. Before you laugh at me check your own structural mistakes

CoDforever

yea ik .. just noticed that

KillzoneVII

No, you’re* a retard. Go back to school and learn some grammar, kid.

Ryan Schulze

Humor. Just humor my friend. Really would be nice to be able to dabble in a string of internet humor without trampling on someone’s emotions. I truly do apolgize if I caused you displeasure. I was truly looking forward to seeing what COD did for Next Gen. Then they started releasing footage and, well, my excitement sort of died. Then we saw Titanfall and BF4 and any interest evaporated.

And by the way, “retarded”? Really? Have you spent time working with, assisting, or caring for those with cognitive handicaps? Try it out. It’s a rewarding experience.

CoDforever

How does BF4 look interesting ? It looks and will probably play exactly like BF3. Titanfall looks amazing though. Na its all good i just get kinda pissed when ppl shit talk on a game that i love and play everyday. And its kinda irritating seeing these comments instead of an actual discussion ..

Ryan Schulze

If you liked BF3, then all the footage for BF4 is very interesting. I used to play COD a ton and I still keep a copy around to play split screen with friends. I was really hoping for something amazing with Next Gen COD, but since the guys that made COD amazing left and are making Titanfall, it was wishful thinking. I think of it like Terminator movies. 1&2 are iconic films because they were created by a master filmmaker. 3 was entertaining, but didn’t do anything new and by 4, I had lost interest and just wanted to see what The master filmmaker was doing next and that was Avatar and it was amazing. It’s the unfortunate reality of Star Wars. Lucas may have stuck with it too long, but he’s the creative genius that developed the story. Abrams will make an entertaining film, but even Episode One will outlast whatever 7 ends up being. It’s rare than someone can top genius when following in their same footsteps. Enjoy COD. If they do splitscreen on ps4, I just might pick up a copy too.

CoDforever

“If you liked BF3, then all the footage for BF4 is very interesting.” if i use bf fanboys theory(cod is the same shit every year) than “If you liked cod4, then all the footage for ghosts is very interesting.” It isnt next gen COD, they still had to put most of their focus on current gen (Bulk of sales). Besides, This IW’s first time being the main dev after Mw2 we’ll see if they can hang .. But again, trust me when they make a next gen only cod IW will blow your mind just like they did with cod4.

Ryan Schulze

You and Activision can call them “Infinity Ward” all you want, but the real “Infinity Ward” is now named Respawn and they have an amazing new Next Gen title coming out called Titanfall. Yes, my friends that are big into COD are excited by Ghosts on 360. None of them are getting a Next Gen system right now, so, I can see why they’re interested. No one does fast paced arena shooter better than COD. But, if we’re waiting for them to innovate, we’re gonna be waiting a long, long time. The innovators have moved on. The next HALO may be fun like the last one, but it won’t be special. The innovators and creators of the IP and all that it brought to First Person Shooters have moved on and they have a Next Gen IP called Destiny. And yes, BF4 may look very similar to BF3 (except for the massive scale of map changes), but the team that built and designed the games are still building and designing the games. There’s a difference and why people are excited about DICE working on Star Wars Battlefront. The innovators are tackling a “new” IP. When the core Battlefield team moves on to new projects, Battlefield will grow very stale and repetitive too.

CoDforever

LOL then there was absolutely no reason to read and comment on this article retard

CoDforever

Why are you here then ? lol

CoDforever

LOL you will buy the next cod regardless

zacflame

Not really.
I have 60$ up for grabs for a close-quarters shooter. 50% chance of Killzone:Shadowfall, 15% chance of CoD: Ghosts, 35% chance other/none.

CoDforever

Why do people force themselves to NOT BUY CoD ? Is cod a punishment or something ? Why cant people enjoy all games including cod ? And lets face it, no matter how much you critcize cod its one of the most funnest games with friends. Say its the same thing every year, but for me and i bet a lot of ppl the game is super fun and yes, there are some rage moments, but no game’s perfect. Even if the day comes that i finally pick Battlefield over cod i will always purchase cod and have fun with it, because I am a gamer.

zacflame

Mostly because CoD games seemed to get worse after black ops, and especially now because everyone else is either making a new IP or drastically changing their game (AC and BF take to the seas, MGS goes open world,Ghost Recon goes MMO, etc.); while CoD: Ghosts shows SOME change, (and another problem is that all these new features already exist in other games, or even leaning, which was already in CoD on PC) but this is the amount of change needed on top of MW3 and Black Ops 2. And for CoD: Ghosts to appeal to the hardcore audience, it needs to catch up with and surpass every other title that is overshadowing it, which me and most of the hardcore audience don’t see happening.
This is also why people call Titanfall the CoD-killer, because it brings drastic change to the fast-paced infantry combat CoD is known for.

CoDforever

The reason cod doesnt change is well … sigh, remember when 3arc patched the sniper by 0.01 seconds and Vahn got thousands of death threats ? What do you think would happen if they changed the entire cod formula ? This is the first time CoD borrowed stuff from other games, but dont act like no game has ever ripped off from cod. Besides, there games, they learn from each other. Im still excited for titanfall, but Respawn already said its not trying to replace or compete with Call of duty in any way. CoD is a sport now .. the reason i think its successful because it can be played in every way (casually, for fun, competatively etc) And im positive the grapchics arent on par with other next gen games is cuz they had to focus on current gen aswell (bulk of sales) . But trust me , when cod goes next gen only IW will blow your mind like they did with COD4.

Paul Thomas

Not to defend CoDforever but I seriously dough that Titanfall will kill CoD. Two major reasons for this. One, Titanfall is a brand new IP and won’t sell very well to begin with, however later. That’s a different story. Secondly, if Titanfall is the almighty Cod killer then it would need to be on as many systems as CoD in order to maximize sells. Truthfully I could see BF4 doing it before Titanfall.

zacflame

Nope, BF and CoD are too different.
BF is on the level with homefront and planetside 2, among others.

CoD is on the level with halo, titanfall, and killzone, among others.
Games on different “levels” can’t “kill” each other unless one “level” becomes obsolete, or if it moves to another level.

Paul Thomas

Not really anything within the same genre is open to taking out another franchise. Also there is no such thing as “levels” in the types of games, that’s what a genre is for. So yes BF could take out one of its rival FPS shooters Call of Duty.

CoDforever

But right now, I aint eva goin’ bak to battlefield LOL

oofy

Awaiting comment from CoDForever…

CoDforever

LOOL wassup ? Bf4 sucks

oofy

LOL. Unoriginal.

zacflame

Can you do me a favor?
Name your top 3 most wanted titles other than COD this year (early 2014-OK)

CoDforever

Titanfall, watch dogs and GTA.

Sebax55

You mean Cod Ghost, Cod Ghost and Cod Ghost (Bf4 sucks)

CoDforever

Just cause I like cod way more than BF doesnt mean i play or like any other games retard.

zacflame

*Ellie from The Last of Us voice*
I believe you.

CoDforever

Just cause I like cod way more than BF doesnt mean i play or like any other games and btw i played Last of us and I loved it

KillzoneVII

Regardless your name is “codforever”, I can’t take anything you say seriously. Oh and before you call me a “Killzone Fanboy” my name has nothing to do with the videogame franchise.

CoDforever

So I cant be a diehard fan of cod and like or play other games at the same time ?

CoDforever

Btw, i have nothing against fanboys .. only the battlefield ones piss the shit out of me

KillzoneVII

That’s singling out an entire community because one or two that happens to be from it pissed you off. Sounds familiar… “I’m not racist I just hate black people because they piss me off.” Same ignorant mentality.

CoDforever

“one or two” LOL you clearly just got internet didnt you

KillzoneVII

Oh well then please enlighten me. Fanboys of all kinds are full of shit, not just battlefield fanboys, infact I personally think cod fanboys are by far the worst kind of fanboy. Playing nothing but cod and hating on everything that isn’t cod. Not saying you are but I’m certainly implying it.

CoDforever

Lmao you think cod fanboys are the worst fanboys dont lie when was the last time you saw a cod fanboy ? When was the last time you saw a battlefield fanboy? They are everywhere i tell you, just not that many on MP1st. Go look at youtube comments LOL

KillzoneVII

I honestly don’t know when the last time was I saw a Battlefield fanboy, cod fanboys on the other hand are everywhere, hell I’m talking to one right now! And sorry I don’t have all day to play on YouTube and mp1st looking to start a nerd war over which FPS is better. I’m done talking to you, good day, sir.

born2expire

Quick scoping has been around long before COD4, started in CS.

zacflame

But not as widely used.

Chad Eugene Rash

Really MP1st. I gave you this info & no credit.

EndangeredQuake

Screw off. Why do you care about the credit? Be satisfied (if this WAS you) that you educated an audience.

http://mp1st.com/ David Veselka

Email or Twitter? Not saying you’re lying, but I don’t see it anywhere. I wrote this as soon as I saw it on my Twitter feed.

George

Maybe you should ban on account of him being a racist in previous articles.

CoDforever

Yessssss <3 cod always. That's why they brought marksman rifles

zacflame

I had no idea the whole “quote the article/video” thing moved from YouTube to MP1st.

Chad Eugene Rash

Now we can be OHK’d with a gun with no sway & very little recoil. Calling it now. Marksman rifles will be the new target finder, Qsing, & camper.

zacflame

Target finder was never a big deal IMO.

MegaMan3k

The high efficacy of quickscoping dramatically damages the interweapon balance of a game. Quick-scoping negates the trade off a sniper rifle has for being a one-shot kill weapon.

A sniper rifle should be best used while “hard-scoping.” The best utilization of sniper rifles should be scoping in, popping out of cover, getting a shot off, and returning to cover. Running around and quick tapping LT/RT requires neither skill nor tactics nor does it encourage weapon interplay.

Black Ops got sniper rifles right, after an initial patch. Black Ops also had sniper rifles the WRONGEST that they are in the series, before the patch. When the sniper rifle scopes in, the bullet *MUST* go where the reticle is aiming. To not do so leads to frustration and fuzzy gameplay mechanics and it prohibits a skilled player from landing a well placed shot. In a game like Call of Duty, a steady gun should fire where it is aiming in every case, no exceptions. I fear that Ghosts will implement a solution like Black Ops to combat quick-scoping.

A sniper rifle should be balanced by a combination of:
1) Long-scope in
2) Optical effects (ex: seeing the scope’s “shadow” as you line up your eyes)
3) Not having the reticle zoom into the center of the screen

Asmitty56

Well, it’s a step. Not liking the maybe crap. Just get ride of it completely. If you want to be aggressive with a sniper rifle either take off the scope or put a red dot or acog on.

ckpinkham

Glad they’re getting rid of it. Now if only the game was actually NEXT gen and not still behind Battlefield 3, I might buy it. I used to love COD so hopefully by their next COD, it’s actually worth buying again.

jahladagaming

There will still be very fast scoping, will still be annoying but it’s a start. Now how about getting rid of head glitching? The ability to shoot from your head is just bizarre!

Paul Thomas

Well if you stop and think about it, when you aim with a real gun it’s almost level with your head. I agree that the barriers/walls should be lower to show some more of the body, and the third-person models need to be tweaked a little. But it really doesn’t seem bizarre.

Joshua Choate

sounds like a PR sidestep to me. It reads, “hey, I think we got rid of it, but you guys are probably going to figure out a way around what we did anyway.” That way, when people come back and complain that they’re getting run up on by a sniper using their rifle like a friggin shotgun, they can say “hey, we changed It we never said we got rid of it. Not our fault they figured out another way to do it.”

HBK

Snipers in general in the past two CODs have been WAY too easy to use. Especially in Black Ops 2 – someone can just set up behind one of the infinite headglitches (another huge problem) and completely close down one lane of the map. For example in Yemen. That map perfectly illustrates all of the problems with this game. I could respect a quickscoper in Black Ops 1 since it actually took a decent amount of skill to do it consistently.

PuddingAuxRais1ns

I somewhat disagree. MW2 and MW3 are the most QS-friendly CoDs in CoD history. BO2 is a balance between MW3 and BO2. If BO2 had MW3-style TTK then QS wouldn’t be as viable as it is already.

Tyler D

Well there goes half of the COD community.

SangheiliSpecOp

Lol soo true. I guess they are coming to BF4

Asmitty56

Do not even! Damn I’d have to open my own server to get rid of those quick scoping douches. If anything it would be harder to do on BF4, if not impossible.

CoDforever

No cod fan will ever switch to BF full time unless its on PC. Cod is superior to Bf on consoles (70% of ppl that bf3 btw) in every way.

SangheiliSpecOp

Haven’t we heard them say this before? I know they Treyarch tries not to encourage quick scoping (for BO1 at least, I don’t know about BO2) but it seems that Infinity Ward tries to encourage it.

I KNOW for a fact that quick scoping was not unintended because in MW2 there was a perk (I forgot the name) that made you hold your breath longer when zoomed in with sniper rifles, and the “pro” version of that perk made the hip fire accuracy of your gun increase, suggesting that Infinity Ward wanted you to use that perk with snipers and be able to quick scope with it.

dieger

“(for BO1 at least, I don’t know about BO2)” no they gave out and made a OHK from the waist up easy to quickscope…

SangheiliSpecOp

Damn… well I’ll be having fun with BF4 anyways, I finished playing CoD with Black Ops 1

betosobreira

OpticGaming is raging right now.

pinportal

E ai beto conseguiu instalar o negócio la ontem?

CoDforever

You mean FaZe optic is now a competative clan now buh styll optic for life <3

betosobreira

Whatever.

xbox rules

Cod this year will come and go there will be other better games out there such as watchdogs destiny elder scrolls online and many more

CoDforever

so ? why do we not play cod for the sake of not playing cod, why cant we play cod just to have fun?

xbox rules

I get my free copy of ghost 2 days before everyone else gets there’s a special gift from Microsoft.

LunatikToon

I like the fact snipers are going to be more realistic because lets be honest you cant quick scope in real life with a sniper so why should you be able to in a game

Oerba

I don’t even give a shit at this point, the only reason why I buy these games anymore is because the player base is so easy to piss off. Do w/e you want IW, as long as I can get hatemail from little Johnny because I kept killing him with some OP weapon I’m happy.

Emil Xavier Graves

My responce to this article is….BATTLEFIELD 4

CoDforever

Hehe retard

Bigzilla

Black Ops 2 has been “a little more open to it”? That’s a LOL, right? Quickscoping has never been easier than it is in BO2. Good riddance, quickscoping. Take all the squeaky voiced, internet racist, homophobic 12-15 year old players with you.

Bryan P

Good riddance

iSpiRiiT

I kinda play both. I don’t really care. but if they’re gonna disable quickscoping.
They have to make the maps in great range.

NARDDAWG TGMTEL

YES YES YES

Sensou-Ookami

I can sense all the quickscoping kiddies making their rage videos right now, readying there props of dry wall for punching, and breaking their squeaky voices in for screaming. Hope there is a montage of these clips so I can hit them all with one LOL.

You know what would be nice on this site… Comments with useful, worthwhile information.

Paul Thomas

Yea they would.

David Carrier

Im fine with no quickscoping Im a fan of it but basically they made the Marksman rifle so you wouldnt have to quickscope so im fine with no quickscope.

David Carrier

I think it looks like that IW has balanced the maps well Im exited to see how COD Ghosts plays out. Super exited IW dont let me down

Ste

GooD!

Maurice Bethel

Thanks!!!! they just made it easier for campers to camp, and us quickscopers have no say so in the game apparently…there should be a seperate lobby with snipers disabled for the crying campers who dont QS and just want to hide in a corner and wait until someone pass their crosshairs… that way you can keep campers happy and us people who like a little challenge happy.

Keyboard Hijinx

Ive seen very meager difference in the new snipers. The skill to pull it off maybe be a few degrees higher, but QS is in like Flynn guys.