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His accuracy for the most part was spot on. Did he overthrow some balls, sure, but more often than not when he had an open receiver on a deep route he would hit him. I also remember quite a few deep routes where the receivers would fail to pull in a beautifully thrown deep ball so that skews accuracy #s as well.

So Johnny Manziel was never off on a deep ball? I seem to remember a lot of beautiful deep balls thrown by Shaw. Especially this last year. Accuracy isn't all about the QB's arm. It's more about getting to know each of your WR. Connor did an outstanding job this year of getting on the same page with Byrd, Jones, and Ellingtion, the year before his go to guys were Sanders and Cunningham.

I will be absolutely SHOCKED if Johnny Manziel makes a decent QB in the NFL. The hash marks are closer together, so you can't keep plays alive as long in the NFL without hitting the far sideline. He took too many chances after scrambling around to buy time for the NFL too. The windows won't be the same in the NFL where he is playing all of the All-Stars. That, plus his personal problems that I don't see getting better when he has a ton of money in a fairly large city...and I am shocked anyone is willing to spend a first round pick on him. He can get away with that in college, but he won't in the next level. I am sorry, I was wrong earlier, I will be SHOCKED if he's in the league in 4 years.

I will be absolutely SHOCKED if Johnny Manziel makes a decent QB in the NFL. The hash marks are closer together, so you can't keep plays alive as long in the NFL without hitting the far sideline. He took too many chances after scrambling around to buy time for the NFL too. The windows won't be the same in the NFL where he is playing all of the All-Stars. That, plus his personal problems that I don't see getting better when he has a ton of money in a fairly large city...and I am shocked anyone is willing to spend a first round pick on him. He can get away with that in college, but he won't in the next level. I am sorry, I was wrong earlier, I will be SHOCKED if he's in the league in 4 years.

He grew up with ton of money and large cities are nothing new to him? I have not seen the hash marks influence one QB from college to pro, not one, if you can scramble you can keep the play alive what does the hash mark have to do with the price of China? I think Johnny Football's biggest problem will be motivation, once again he is already very wealthy, has a degree, is a superstar known around the US but does he have the will to be great and I think the answer will surprise you as Mr. Shaw surprises a bunch of people with his will to win!

ridiculous. johnny fooseball literally throws nothing but punts in the air and had a 6-5 receiver to throw to. Shaw not only has better mechanics as a QB, but isn't as big of a nuisance to deal with and doesn't create problems in the locker room. johnny football is a joke and is a bust waiting to happen

He grew up with ton of money and large cities are nothing new to him? I have not seen the hash marks influence one QB from college to pro, not one, if you can scramble you can keep the play alive what does the hash mark have to do with the price of China? I think Johnny Football's biggest problem will be motivation, once again he is already very wealthy, has a degree, is a superstar known around the US but does he have the will to be great and I think the answer will surprise you as Mr. Shaw surprises a bunch of people with his will to win!

You haven't seen any mobile QB's that did well in college not do so well in the pros? I would disagree, I can name a dozen off the top of my head.

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NFL hashmarks are 18 feet, 6 inches wide (the same as the field goal posts) versus a whopping 40 feet in NCAA football. That is almost 2.2 times wider.

Concept is straightforward, if you made a living on lateral speed to the far sideline and getting around the edge, there is less of an edge to get around in the NFL. In college, the ball is placed further away from the far sideline when it is on the hash mark. So if I have farther to go until I hit the sideline, I can use that space to get around people, or just avoid ending the play. The sideline is another defender, after all. Let me put it this way, would you rather have 20 yards of lateral space to scramble around and try to make a play, or 30 yards?

The distance of the hashmarks also limits the effectiveness of certain guys who thrive on that lateral speed and never transition quite so well. I think this was CJ Spiller's problem for a long time, coupled with the fact he has a problem staying healthy. If you think Manziel will be good, we will obviously see who is right and who is wrong. I think he will be a total NFL bust, crash and burn kinda scenario. I don't think the amount of money his parents gave him is anywhere near what he will have now, and I don't think whatever city he lived in when he went to Texas A&M is the size of the one he will go to. He shows patterns of an alcoholic and substance abuser, if you read that in-depth article ESPN did on him the young man needs some help.

the stats and metrics probably say that manziel is a little more accurate as well as having a better arm. while connor shaw is flat out a better decision maker. shaw better straight line speed while manziel is more elusive. what you've got to love about shaw is the improvement year to year. his overall completion pct dipped this year below his first two years as a starter, but he had the 2nd highest pct of downfield (11+ yards) throws of any quarterback in the draft (behind mettenberger). despite throwing it downfield that much he had the lowest int pct of any qb in the draft. plus he had the lowest pct of deflected throws in the draft.

the two concerns according to the metrics are a below avg completion pct vs the blitz and a poor completion pct vs pressure (forced to move). one could explain that away by saying not all blitzes and pressure are equal and while hes not completing as many passes as you'd like under those circumstances he's also not making mistakes.

I don't see how people can say Shaw has BETTER mechanics. If you go and watch the tape you'll see he's got an almost tebowish delivery and lets the ball down. Not as much as tebow but it's noticeable. When his arm is up by his ear, he delivers a good pass. Just watch the tape. When it's not he throws too high. With that said, you can't argue with the win percentage and the TD/INT Ratio. Just as much credit goes to the rest of the offense as well as the defense. There's not a bunch of slouches out there on offense anymore.