I've been away from CS for awhile. Last time I really played was when 1.6 was the biggest thing out. Went and bought Source tonight and I can only see like 150 or servers to choose from. Is that the normal amount or is there something I need to do to see more then that? Thanks

Originally posted by: mb
No awp servers? ehhh I never understood the point of that.

because awps are for idiots

If you got a problem with the awp buy one yourself and shoot back, jez. I don't see the problem with the gun. Other than people who cry about it when they get shot.

Its stupidly overpowered. Other than a foot shot its an insta kill, even then it does 95 damage.

Its damn accurate and basically has every single attribute that makes it an overpowered gun.

Who the f cares? Play the game the way it's meant to be played. It's like TF2 servers with no crits or 2x crits or instant respawns. Just play the game... you're not making it any better by limiting it.

Edit: Because I'm SURE someone is thinking this: I'm not saying to never mod a game, but imposing limitations is lame.

Originally posted by: mb
No awp servers? ehhh I never understood the point of that.

because awps are for idiots

If you got a problem with the awp buy one yourself and shoot back, jez. I don't see the problem with the gun. Other than people who cry about it when they get shot.

Its stupidly overpowered. Other than a foot shot its an insta kill, even then it does 95 damage.

Its damn accurate and basically has every single attribute that makes it an overpowered gun.

Who the f cares? Play the game the way it's meant to be played. It's like TF2 servers with no crits or 2x crits or instant respawns. Just play the game... you're not making it any better by limiting it.

Edit: Because I'm SURE someone is thinking this: I'm not saying to never mod a game, but imposing limitations is lame.

if you want to play with the gun so overpowered almost every CS player hates it or acknowledges how overpowered it is, play on a different server, not too hard to understand. The AWP is easy mode, and everyone knows this.

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Originally posted by: mb
No awp servers? ehhh I never understood the point of that.

A lot of players don't like the AWP. Even you can acknowledge that. Isn't it natural that these people would create a server where they don't have to deal with it? That way, those who don't want the AWP ruining their experience can play in a no AWP server and those who do want to use it can play in a regular server. I don't see how anyone loses in this situation, so why would you whine?

Also, the AWP is retarded. It's insanely unrealistic (yes, even more so than the rest of the CS guns), it's retardedly overpowered, and it makes obnoxious noises.

Oh, and why not just buy one and shoot back? Because that just makes the problem worse! As soon as one person whips out the AWP (usually because he sucks with anything else and has a k/d ratio of 1/3 or something), everybody else whips out an AWP in a many or 2-3 rounds and suddenly the game becomes a mess of BOOM BOOM BOOM x 20 players. If that's how it's gonna be, they should just make AWP only servers.

And play the game how it's meant to be played? Do you seriously think people play the way it's meant to be played? CS players take advantage of every little exploit in the system, all of which were definately not meant to be there.

However, I used to be like you guys and hate the awp and complain about it. But as I got better I found that there are many ways to deal with it rather then complain. Have any of you guys played in CAL? Why have they not banned this gun if it is SO overpowered?

If you are good enough at cs all you need an awper to do it miss once and he's done deal.

Or, there are always different ways to approach an area that are easier to get at an awper. Especially if you have another person with you...he misses and you guys can give him a nice head shot or possibly a flash.

I definately am more careful going into an area with an awper but it's not like it's some sort of super ultimate gun.

I always here how easy the awp is to use from people who hate it. Yet they can never seem to fight back with one themselves. I can see how it might make cs pubs pretty pissed when they get a good awper who dominates them all, I've been that guy before. If you really know how to play however, there are strategies to dealing with awpers.

To the OP: Sometimes if I stop the refresh and then refresh all over and over it will come up with more servers.

The two big problems with the AWP is that it accentuates wall hacking and slows down the game. A lot of times the only way to detect wall hacking is by watching a player and with an AWP you can't really tell and they're going on killing 4-5 guys a round and swaying the balance towards their team. Second, nobody likes sitting around while a half dozen AWPers crouch around the map for 10 minutes. The best servers have a 1 AWP limit.

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You guys are n00bs for sure, the scout is more powerful then the awp in a players hands who is equally skilled with both. Scout is tougher to learn, but just as and even more powerful in the right person's hands.

No awp servers are fine, I can see why some people don't like them and don't want them on their servers, but the reasoning behind it is flawed. The real reason servers do it is because really good players spend countless hours perfecting the awpology. And as someone already said, you get a really good player that probably shouldn't even be playing in pub's and comes in and owns the whole team. That same person can probably do the same thing with M4 or AK.

It requires quite a bit of skill, you have to have uber fast reflexes a lot of times, you have to be excellent at weapon switching so as to prevent slow reload time, and you have to become a master of the deagle as well since your using it almost 80% of the time.

Granted, people who awp and just sit in sniper positions like on dust2 and office and just SIT there - that is easy to do. Try being an awp warrior who rushes as hard as someone with a p90 and becoming an expert with it. A lot of the servers that allow awp slay the people who just sit around once a certain point is reached, they have to go toward the objective on the map or get slayed - simple.

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