Flynn charged with one count of making false statement

originally posted by: Xcathdra
Except he was fired for his actions on handling the Clinton fiasco, among a few other failures.

No he wasn't.

Trump said it in clear words why he fired Jim Comey....as it seems I need to repeat because of "the Russia thing with Trump and Russiar". It was
clear, and all your spin won't be able to detract from that.

Even now there is absolutely nothing that comes close to Trump colluding with Russia in order to win a presidential election.

No? I beg to differ. Let me enlighten you then and I'll highlight all the important parts so that you're certain not to ignore them as always:

Michael Zeldin, a former senior U.S. Justice Department official, said that Flynn has been caught in numerous lies and that four false statements were
documented in the charges to which he pled.

"This is all he gets charged with?" Zeldin asked. "For a prosecutor to give someone this big a break, assuming there's no other indictment
that's been sealed ... then he's got something important to say."

Zeldin said Flynn's attempt to dissuade Russia from supporting a United Nations resolution condemning Israel's approval of settlements on
occupied Palestinian lands "at a minimum implicates Kushner," whom Trump has assigned to try to broker a Middle East peace agreement. Multiple
news outlets reported Friday that it was Kushner or Trump who directed Flynn to contact various countries about the U.N. resolution. The
New York Times reported that Mueller's investigators have learned that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu asked the Trump transition team
to lobby other countries on Israel's behalf; the investigators have evidence that Flynn and Kushner led that effort.

The above, is the textbook definition of collusion, and in case this little factoid slips by you:

collusion

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noun
1. a secret agreement, especially for fraudulent or treacherous purposes; conspiracy:
Some of his employees were acting in collusion to rob him.
2.
Law. a secret understanding between two or more persons to gain something illegally, to defraud another of his or her rights, or to appear as
adversaries though in agreement

Especially hard to prove it when Hillary had all kinds of criminal things going on, Comey admitted as much in his conference and then proceeded to
simply say he felt there was no intent so ... no crime.

originally posted by: face23785
That's some professional projecting. The only ones twisted into pretzels right now are those who still think this is gonna lead to Trump colluded with
Russia to win the election. There's still zero evidence of that whatsoever.

i'm pretty sure they'll get him on obstruction of justice, at this point.

That's just wishful thinking then, because there's zero evidence of it in the public sphere. Firing the director of the FBI doesn't stop
investigations, so it wasn't even an attempt to obstruct. That's a red herring #resisters are clinging to because there's nothing else left at this
point.

Then I guess all those people who later on testified under oath that the investigations were not disrupted in any way should be indicted for lying
under oath like Flynn? Yes?

You're in full-swing 'whataboutism', aren't you? The old effective Soviet propaganda tool seems to still work wonders with the morally bereft. We're
not talking about what others did or did not do, we're talking about Trump's firing of Jim Comey.

originally posted by: face23785
That's just wishful thinking then, because there's zero evidence of it in the public sphere. Firing the director of the FBI doesn't stop
investigations, so it wasn't even an attempt to obstruct. That's a red herring #resisters are clinging to because there's nothing else left at this
point.

i have to reiterate my earlier point that just because something has not been made public knowledge doesn't mean it doesn't exist, as well as my
earlier point that attempting to obstruct justice is still a crime even if justice wasn't obstructed.

i think the forever-trump crowd is clinging to delusion at this point, trying to pretend today's events are insignificant, or that they would
necessarily be privy to every relevant fact.

Especially hard to prove it when Hillary had all kinds of criminal things going on, Comey admitted as much in his conference and then proceeded to
simply say he felt there was no intent so ... no crime.

I don’t care about all that.
It’s nothing to do with what I said, or what you said.

originally posted by: face23785
That's just wishful thinking then, because there's zero evidence of it in the public sphere. Firing the director of the FBI doesn't stop
investigations, so it wasn't even an attempt to obstruct. That's a red herring #resisters are clinging to because there's nothing else left at this
point.

i have to reiterate my earlier point that just because something has not been made public knowledge doesn't mean it doesn't exist, as well as my
earlier point that attempting to obstruct justice is still a crime even if justice wasn't obstructed.

That's called conspiracy,is it not. I think Mueller knows what he is doing and so does Trump. Trump sealed his fate by his twitters and not
staying on top of his staff's emails.

But that's my point, if there was no actual obstruction of any kind, then how do you prove someone intended to obstruct something with an
action?

you check out all the times they said on television that was their intention, or you get testimony from people they said it to, or you find written
documents pertaining to their intentions, like first drafts of 'you're fired' letters...

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