Obama has a tough fight regardless. In my humble opinion, Obama is going to get ownership of all the countries ills. Whether he is responsible or
not. You can only blame Bush/Tea Party/racists so much before it gets onerous. So I could scrape up what my dog rolled in, off the lawn (bad dog!)
and it'll be a shoe-in to win.

That's when it gets scary. Because it'll be such an easy win for whomever gets the nod.

1) He's Not a politician
2) He's got money, knows how to use money.
3) He's doesn't take any Bull and therefore will not be swayed by lobbyist.
4) He's for Truth and Disclosure and getting US out of wars/places we have no business being in.

1. No he's not.
2. Yes he does, including making as much as he can off everyone he deals with. He promotes ACN, one of the biggest pyramid schemes
mid-level market systems there is. Tricking young people everywhere to buy their $500 licenses.

3. He is the lobbyist. Lobbyists work for big business.
4. His word is no different than any other politician.

I would like to see him in there too, if only to see what he actually does with a presidency. But I wouldn't say it would be good for the country.

I can never imagine Ron Paul becoming President in today's America. He would have to change his image so much to run, get many voters, and then when
he's President try to get along with everyone in D.C. I can never see a person like Ron Paul winning. The reason Barack Obama won was because he knew
how to tame his image. Use it to his advantaged. The other reason he was respected in D.C and would work with crooks.

Palin, Palin, Palin - just to top off the madness of it all from the bankers to the FED to the wars to Monsanto to the corrupt politicians to the
divide and conquer tactics of the left and right to the biased media.

Having a jester instead of a leader running the country will probably fuel the fire needed to start a mass revolution where the people can take back
their government. America needs to be set ablaze and rebuild.

Originally posted by beezzer
Obama has a tough fight regardless. In my humble opinion, Obama is going to get ownership of all the countries ills. Whether he is responsible or
not. You can only blame Bush/Tea Party/racists so much before it gets onerous. So I could scrape up what my dog rolled in, off the lawn (bad dog!)
and it'll be a shoe-in to win.

That's when it gets scary. Because it'll be such an easy win for whomever gets the nod.

I agree that Obama is going to have a tough fight...but it will be a fight that he has a very good chance of winning. Heck, he had a hard fight last
election...looking back it may not appear so...but it was a hard fight to the end.

The Republicans are also going to have a tough fight...there chances of winning rely less on anything Obama is going to do, but rather how things
shape up on their side.

What gets done the rest of the year in Congress will also have a big impact on the election. It's still up in the air who "won" the budget
battle...and IMO...that favors Obama. If the Republicans and Tea Partiers can't show that they definitively beat Obama on an issue...then they have
lost in the eyes of their supporters.

I don't know who I'll vote for yet. I'll have to see who is actually running before I decide. But of the people mentioned here, I'd vote for
Obama. I know. Big shock.

Originally posted by sam_inc
how about we dont vote at all and send a message to them, let them know that people are important not them

If "we" don't vote, the voter turnout will be a little lower. No one will even notice. And you'll be giving up your voice, even if you think it
doesn't count. There will be no message sent. No one will care. Politics will go on as before, just without your voice.

I don't know who I will be voting for yet. I DO know it will not be Donald Trump...I mean, really? This guy resorts to acting like a 4th grader if
someone speaks out against him, even in the slightest. He needs to learn some manners. We can't have some blatantly arrogant a$$hole as Pres...I
know, I know, that's all we have in Congress but Trump is a whole new breed. He has the spoiled-little-kid mentality. The "You don't like it? Kiss
my arse, I'm the one with the money, SUCKA"

Originally posted by dethduck
We do not vote for our president. The whole thing is indeed a scam.
We all know that the president is chosen by the electoral college, yet did you know that there is no constitutional or federal law requiring electors
to vote according to the popular vote?

There are however state laws requiring their electoral representatives to vote according to the popular vote...
...
...in only 26 states that is. The rest can vote however they please, though are expected to vote their party lines.

Now ask yourself this, even for those states with state law requirements to adhere to the popular vote, how many people in those states are aware of
that and how much oversight do you think there actually is?
There is nothing, absolutely nothing that prevents any election from being bought and paid for by corporate lobbyists and party politics.

We, The People, are incidental.
Never kid yourself that you have any say.

I disagree. For people who already like Trump...of course they will think he wins.

But a debate is not a "boardroom"...he would not be "running" the debate. And I don't think he can handle that. I think he would talk out of
turn, interrupt, be rude...and while people who hate Obama or love Trump will think he did well...it will not sit well with the majority that he shows
no respect, if not for the President, but for the format of the debate.

All Obama would have to do is ask if that type of behavior (arrogant, rude, obnoxious) is who you want representing America. There is a group that
will say "YES"...but I don't believe that is anywhere near a majority.

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