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This recipe sounds great -- thanks for sharing. Between dog biscuits, bread, veggie burgers and the fact that I just planted my garden I don't think I'll have much to worry about getting rid of on my next brew day!

I find the whole vegan vegi thing kind of interesting. Especially the part about fish not being "meat".

Always one of my favorite arguments with the MANY Bay Area vegetarians I encounter! This recipe sounds good! I've enjoyed many fine vegetarian dishes over the years. Many of them are quite good. Unfortunately, my wife decided to go full blow vegan for a few months when we're still just dating. It was NOT a happy two months for me, but, luckily, she saw the light!

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There's a brewery in Columbia, MO (Flat Branch) that makes veggie burgers out of their spent grains. They are phenomenal and, in my opinion at least, better than standard hamburgers (though not better than Booches burgers [but that's a higher class of burger]). I'll have to make this recipe and see if it compares. If this pans out I'm going to earn some major points with my vegetarian fiance.

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I made a very similar recipe to Phatuna's last night and they turned out really tasty. The flavor is much better than any frozen veggie patties. I used two day old spent grains that I reserved, still moist, covered in the fridge.

I made a very similar recipe to Phatuna's last night and they turned out really tasty. The flavor is much better than any frozen veggie patties. I used two day old spent grains that I reserved, still moist, covered in the fridge.

The person who brought this to my attention said that they guy that makes these, typically makes a lot of burger patty's (uncooked I assume), then vacuum seals them. you might need some wax paper if you want to do this correctly.