Version 9Per ian canton's suggestion, I've set the cell bonus to +1 per 10 cells over 30 (legend says sea cells, will change that with next update)I changed the grids to 0-9I've also clarified some things in the legend (no region bonus, ship cells cannot assault each other)

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Last edited by lostatlimbo on Sun Oct 21, 2012 2:45 am, edited 1 time in total.

not my suggestion! my idea was to set the bonus to +1 per 10 cells over 30, not sea cells over 30, the reason being that the number of cells (regions on standard maps) is displayed each turn, while players have to count the number of sea cells to know the exact number, which becomes boring and repetitive when the number of sea cells is large.

As it appears development on this map has stalled (no update since the update that took it off vacation over 30 days ago), this map is being Moved to the Recycling Bin for the time being. If the mapmaker wants to continue with the map, then one of the Foundry Moderators will be able to help put the thread back into the Foundry system, after an update has been made.

I was traveling in Mexico with little to no internet access for the better part of November.

I get that mapmakers disappear sometimes and there is a desire to keep things moving, but does it really need to be exactly 30 days? Especially when the mapmaker has commented in between updates? There should be some leniency here - especially when it can be months in between actually getting some feedback.

It does the map and mapmaker no good to keep shuffling the damn thing back and forth. I do get busy sometimes and can't update every week like some in the foundry, but when I find enough time to work on the map, I like to make a list of all the changes and knock them out at once. That's how I work. It really isn't hurting anyone to let a map sit for a bit as long as you know the mapmaker hasn't completely abandoned it. I really think it does more damage than good to keep trashing it.

So, yes, please move the map back and wait a MOMENT while I catch up on work and wrap up a film shoot and then I'll fix the legend and any other issues that WOULD HAVE COME UP if the map was allowed to hang around in the WORKSHOP for more than 30 days (especially during the summer and holidays!!!)

lostatlimbo wrote:I was traveling in Mexico with little to no internet access for the better part of November.

Nice, how was it?

I get that mapmakers disappear sometimes and there is a desire to keep things moving, but does it really need to be exactly 30 days?

No and some map makers go over the 30 days like your did.

Especially when the mapmaker has commented in between updates? There should be some leniency here - especially when it can be months in between actually getting some feedback.

You commented twice during the time when in the main foundry. Once to say thanks for the move and the other time was to say you will fix something.

It does the map and mapmaker no good to keep shuffling the damn thing back and forth. I do get busy sometimes and can't update every week like some in the foundry, but when I find enough time to work on the map, I like to make a list of all the changes and knock them out at once. That's how I work. It really isn't hurting anyone to let a map sit for a bit as long as you know the mapmaker hasn't completely abandoned it. I really think it does more damage than good to keep trashing it.

You are right to say that in the bin, you will get less feedback than in the main foundry. And it does the map damage to keep moving it backwards and forwards. But these are the things we live by. You say, does it hurt to keep it there for longer, yes it does. We have few members commenting on maps and if those comments are directed at maps that are sitting in there dead, then it is a wasted post. Keeping the main foundry clean helps all map makers get feedback and helps the mods to move the ones that are being updated.

So, yes, please move the map back and wait a MOMENT while I catch up on work and wrap up a film shoot and then I'll fix the legend and any other issues that WOULD HAVE COME UP if the map was allowed to hang around in the WORKSHOP for more than 30 days (especially during the summer and holidays!!!)

More than happy to move it back once an update has been made. If you know you are going to be busy and away for some time, post in the thread that you are away and will make an update on so and so day. This way we know and can give some wiggle room.

lost, you say you want feedback and you do get it, but when it comes, it sits there. nole did ask 12 days before the move if an update was coming. No reply came so he moved it. He is not a mind reader and cannot hold onto a map in the hope of something.

If you want more feedback, be more proactive. Get more updates made quicker, even if it is small things. The higher you are in the list, the better for players to see he map. Ask on your friends list for them to comment. PM 1v1 players to see if they have any ideas for you. But even if you do not get feedback, get an update done. I am sure you can think of a hundred things that can be done on this map now, so why not do them and post the result.

The six months of vacation has expired, for this reason this topic is now labeled as [Abandoned]. An action, as stated in our Abandoned map policy has been taken. If the original mapmaker wants to continue this map project it's fine but a real update must provided. From this moment anyone else is free to continue this project without the original mapmaker permission, but it has to be started from the scratch.

This map was really close. There were a few minor things, but the real issue is that the 1v1 functionality wasn't available.

I would be glad to finish it if cc gave a shit about mapmaking, but the foundry looks in much worse shape than when I left. What is the point of me making little tweaks to the legend if the site can't handle the gameplay?

lostatlimbo wrote:I'm tempted to take this up again, but it doesn't seem like any of the foundry's issues have been resolved and there's still a bunch of map from several years ago that are stuck in purgatory.

I'm not even sure who is in charge at the moment. Who is signing off on maps?

(PS - kudos to you ian, for sticking with this so long. You have much more patience than most!)

BigWham and I believe RedBaron0 are the ones signing off on maps now a days, though ian could have taken over RB0's role now. It is hard to say considering there are no longer any announcements for any part of the site any more.