We all work differently - which makes us individuals. Unfortunately, my luck is not good - heck I can't even win 5 bucks on the lottery!!! I have had a tie rod that spun in the socket on an old Jetta when I tried to remove the nut. The tie rod was so bad, there was no friction left inside it on the stem and the stem did not have enough grab in the socket to break the nut loose. In that situation - nothing worked and since I was changing the tie rod any way - I held the shaft steady with a wrench and hack sawed the stem off at the bottom above the nut. I guess chances are rare that it could happen - but with my luck it has. Different strokes for different folks - that's what makes this website so great!!!