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nice. these two were the ones I was really worried about when I preordered the whole wave. Kickback looks interesting, and Air Raid will be my Classics Wing Saber.

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I don't have Shockwave yet, an I'd still like him, but if I can't get him for a reasonable price I'll wait for a big sale and grab whichever version of the mold I see first. Firefight was always one of my favorite toys as a kid, so he'd certainly have a place next to his granddaddy.

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That mold works really well for Sideswipe., better than it did for Jazz, and Jazz is a pretty good figure already.Magnus looks ver cool, and that sword just completes the otherwise lackluster Prime mold.

Starscream is just O.K.

The insecticon is a must.

And somehow Fireflight makes that mold his own. Shockwave was a little disappointing, but Firelight just works.

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The Kickback looks decent enough but as for Air Raid. Really? A Shockwave repaint? Notice in the game he was not a repaint of Shockwave. Kudos to Hasbro for cutting corners and skimping on product. It doesn't even really look that good for Shockwave to be honest. Hasbro is shooting themselves in the foot with crap like that and really need to step up their game if they want to compete with 3rd party manufacturers who actually make a better product.

Dammitman wrote:The Kickback looks decent enough but as for Air Raid. Really? A Shockwave repaint? Notice in the game he was not a repaint of Shockwave. Kudos to Hasbro for cutting corners and skimping on product. It doesn't even really look that good for Shockwave to be honest. Hasbro is shooting themselves in the foot with crap like that and really need to step up their game if they want to compete with 3rd party manufacturers who actually make a better product.

He's not the same Air Raid as the one from the video games. His on-package toy bio gives him an entirely different personality as WFC Air Raid. Same name, different character.

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

PrymeStriker wrote:Technically, Kickback is in the Prime universe. Prime and FoC are part of the same continuity family.

But I get it. His design is slightly more Prime-esque than FoC.

I haven't seen season 2 of Prime but Kickback is definitely not in season 1

You misunderstood me. Kickback isn't in Prime at all. I never said that. What I said was that Prime and FoC are part of the same universe. So, Kickback is in the Prime universe. He's not in the Prime cartoon.

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I guess if Kickback is actually in the game I'll display him with the WFC/FoC figs. Bur he does look very Prime-like in aesthetic.

Air Raid is pretty awesome. The alt mode looks too much like Shockwave, but otherwise he's great. Maybe I can work out some sort of fan-mode that's a little more plane-like. Very badass with the weapons. I might give his small sword to another figure, but it depends.

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Kapow have just sent me my Magnus so they are obviously about to hit......glad I didn't bother to pre-order Air Raid cos that looks as lazy and pointless as I thought when I heard Has were just going to repaint Shockwave. Sideswipe should be on the way to me too.

I like Magnus much better than Op....I just wish his chin wasn't so pointy and they had made both characters the Voyagers they should have been.

okay. He has the same name as an Aerialbot, but I don't see Air Raid as being one. Takara's Air Raid is so different in colourscheme that he too looks like a completely different character.I like this turn of events.

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craggy wrote:okay. He has the same name as an Aerialbot, but I don't see Air Raid as being one. Takara's Air Raid is so different in colourscheme that he too looks like a completely different character.I like this turn of events.

It as supposed to be Fireflight, but the name was changed at the last minute. His bio also resembles that of G1 Fireflight.

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

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To me Sideswipe looks a bit top-heavy. Thats way I also saw Animated Hot Rod, too beefy on top and weak looking in the legs. You know who had it worst of all was Energon OP, just horrible IMHO. There is no question that UM looks brilliant and the Hasbro version looks perfect with no need for Takara's. I am stuck on choosing which SS to get. The aesthetics over all look good and this from someone who has never played the games, don't need it to see what's good and what ain't...'nuff said!

Dammitman wrote:The Kickback looks decent enough but as for Air Raid. Really? A Shockwave repaint? Notice in the game he was not a repaint of Shockwave. Kudos to Hasbro for cutting corners and skimping on product. It doesn't even really look that good for Shockwave to be honest. Hasbro is shooting themselves in the foot with crap like that and really need to step up their game if they want to compete with 3rd party manufacturers who actually make a better product.

He's not the same Air Raid as the one from the video games. His on-package toy bio gives him an entirely different personality as WFC Air Raid. Same name, different character.

Honestly, I think that makes it worse. And to be quite honest, I was kinda looking forward to having an FoC Air Raid figure. A real one... Not this joke.

Dammitman wrote:The Kickback looks decent enough but as for Air Raid. Really? A Shockwave repaint? Notice in the game he was not a repaint of Shockwave. Kudos to Hasbro for cutting corners and skimping on product. It doesn't even really look that good for Shockwave to be honest. Hasbro is shooting themselves in the foot with crap like that and really need to step up their game if they want to compete with 3rd party manufacturers who actually make a better product.

He's not the same Air Raid as the one from the video games. His on-package toy bio gives him an entirely different personality as WFC Air Raid. Same name, different character.

Honestly, I think that makes it worse. And to be quite honest, I was kinda looking forward to having an FoC Air Raid figure. A real one... Not this joke.

That was a little extra harsh... But still...

It was supposed to be Fireflight, especially given his very "Fireflight-y" bio, but it was changed at the last minute probably due to some issue with them being unable to use that name.

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

Sabrblade wrote: His on-package toy bio gives him an entirely different personality as WFC Air Raid. Same name, different character.

If it is a different character then market him as such. Don't put him on a Fall of Cybertron card if it is not the same character. That is just an insult to the Fans' intelligence.

you're new to Transformers, aren't you?

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Sabrblade wrote: His on-package toy bio gives him an entirely different personality as WFC Air Raid. Same name, different character.

If it is a different character then market him as such. Don't put him on a Fall of Cybertron card if it is not the same character. That is just an insult to the Fans' intelligence.

Sabrblade wrote:It was supposed to be Fireflight, especially given his very "Fireflight-y" bio, but it was changed at the last minute probably due to some issue with them being unable to use that name.

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

Sabrblade wrote:It was supposed to be Fireflight, especially given his very "Fireflight-y" bio, but it was changed at the last minute probably due to some issue with them being unable to use that name.

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All I am hearing here is more excuses as to why a big toy company can screw its fans and not any real justification whatsoever.

Gosh darn it you got me. I don't know anything about Transformers beyond what Michael Bay taught me.[/quote]not having a go at you, just saying that it's not new that Hasbro does completely random things with naming their toys sometimes

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