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Okay - we all know that the Death Note manga falls into the catorgy of being split into two stories. Some people believe that because of this, and being upto the end of volume 02 at episode 07, that the anime might just end when the fight major story does (volume 07). It would be nice to see what people think about that~

i have read the manga till 90+ chp now and still dunno y N thinks that second L is light @ chp82 if i remember correctly.Aizawa didnt even told him who being locked @ the prison so how in earth N knows its chief's son?

Good thread. Since I'm used to it, I'll keep up the trend of elaborate spoiler labels when I initiate discussion of a topic and when I respond to topics which have already been precedented to exist in spoilers.

For those who want to analyze the pacing of the series and speculate on what it will cover, I can try to keep an updated list of which episodes correspond to which chapters. Along with that, I'll repost the entire section of text I wrote for an earlier post at http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...0&postcount=24 about this issue.

So it's clearly about two episodes per chapter. Usually the scene split is where one chapter ends and the next one starts. At this rate, it will end around chapter 74, which is

Spoiler for Manga, what chapters the arcs correspond to:

15 chapters after the end of the first arc, and 34 chapters before the end of the second arc (and the whole series). There are three choices: 1) they could pad it out to fit in 37 episodes, as they have clearly shown they can do, 2) perhaps just extend it and have a different end, or 3) completely trim down or abbreviate the second arc. Given that these episodes have already clearly been heavily padded, I suspect they'll just continue to trend of padding episodes; they'll be able to do it even better when more has happened that they can pad it with. Or maybe, and I don't know if this is how anime works, they will be able to extend the series before they have to plan it to end, and so they'll be able to fit in all the material.

On the subject of the anime,

Spoiler for Art & characterization of Light:

As those who've read the manga know, the art style for Light changes a lot. At the start he seems to have an innocent, clean-cut appearance, and time passes with him as Kira his eyes narrow and locks of hair cross down over his face. When

Spoiler for Chapter 35's plot twist:

Light loses his memory after forfeiting the note, he reverts to his initial appearance in terms of art, and

Spoiler for How he's characterized over subsequent chapters:

wins over the trust of L with his upstanding behavior, and even has much higher moral standards than L. "Even if it's to catch Kira, I can't trample on people's good will like that."

But instead of drawing that shift in appearance, the anime has pretty much just shown the evil Light's face since the beginning. That is, his eyes aren't capable of that springy, determined youth, just indifference or malice. And since this recent episode 6 with Raye's fiance,

Spoiler for Episode 6:

judging from people's reactions as well as my own, It's become clear that the anime fails to accurately characterize him, in voice, face, and appearance, as someone who can be trusted.

Spoiler for Near the end of the first arc, circa chapter 57:

Because of this, I anticipate that they may have difficulty establishing credibility for L's actions in allowing Light to go free. It's my personal opinion, and the opinion of a few others, that because L wanted to believe in Light due to L having come to consider Light a true friend, he chose to ignore his better judgment and allow Light to go free. Yet, somehow I don't know if those who have only watched the manga will see this, which saddens me.

no!!!!!!!! i'm a horrible Mello & matt fan ;_; id die without them. though i must say that after L deaths the level manga went down, there still were interesting moments ^-^

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its chief's son?

he didint know it was light at 1st. he just suspected the SECOND L or smb among the team with him.
Later Aizawa told him about the time they brought about the Kira suspects (misa, raito) to be shot by his father. Mr jagami screamed that he will kill kira & kill HIMSELF. why the heck would he do that ? even if kira was a coworker? its obvious they were really close people. then he could just check out their info, & see light's been gone from uni or wherever for some time. but the sister is still there. etc

The crappy Good Light arc almost lost me -- it was so long and frankly unbelievable. And also kind of dumb considering that Light was NEVER this friend of justice good guy, even before he picked up the Note he clearly hated the world and people in general. But mostly it was just boring.

After that, the manga is fairly weak right up until the end. I only kept reading to get to the end because I knew Light was going to have an awesome death -- I was just waiting for the moment he has an insane laughing fit infront of the SPK and is outed as a maniacal madman. And in this the manga finally delivers -- Light's death sequence was the best ever; screaming, insane, and in the end, pathetic and whimpering. I loved how he started screaming for Misa and Takada to hurry up and kill them all, even when they were dead or held far away.

Considering I hated the "good Light" period, I feel like if they just summarized that up into a few episodes [which they could - even though it takes out a chunk of stuff, I'm sure they could 'paraphrase' it], they might be able to fit the whole thing in 37 episodes...the only problem is it'll get really rushed towards the end.

But, I feel the best thing to do would be to have two seasons - the first season could be the first two arcs, at a good rate. Then the second season could be the whole last arc, with it spanned out more.

Next episode (09) shall be L's appearance juring the test that Light takes. Judging from the past episodes i'm getting the feeling that the episode shall end with that, or when L appears juring the award cermony saying "I'm L". Its these kinds of scenes that are happening already that makes me believe they'll end this series with that send.. and go on to another season for the second part of the manga.

I wish I could post high-quality scans, because my image editor doesn't work under Windows for some reason. The end of episode 9, as it is in chapter 19, is just wonderful: Light leaning back in his chair, his face shadowed yet casual, commenting according to OT's translation, "I'm sure we'll get along just fine. Then I'll find everything, and send you all to hell." Man, that was beautiful. I really, really wish TW & Live-eviL would avoid Viz's translations.

Edit: Oh yes, and I forgot to mention. When

Spoiler for Manga, major plot twist:

Light forfeits the note

I think they should, artistically, switch the "Next episode" narrator to L. From that point onward, it's more appropriate, IMO.

The crappy Good Light arc almost lost me -- it was so long and frankly unbelievable. And also kind of dumb considering that Light was NEVER this friend of justice good guy, even before he picked up the Note he clearly hated the world and people in general. But mostly it was just boring.

I felt much the same way. Chapters 36 (when Light gave himself up) between 46 (when the third Kira was revealed to be Higuchi) were the most boring parts of the entire series. I just wanted them to end so quickly yet I was reading them at least twice as slowly because they were so damn boring.

I mean, while I find it ironic that my avatar is from that arc (chapter 45), that scene where L said that just made me laugh and I had to save it for posterity. L just seemed so emo in that chapter...

I think they should, artistically, switch the "Next episode" narrator to L. From that point onward, it's more appropriate, IMO.

Yeah, that would make a lot more sense. It would also do a good job at shaking viewers up. Still.. its hard to see if they'll go the same way as the manga with that arc.. its a crazy part of the story, and there are many parts of it that wouldn't work out for the anime.

If you try to adapt this into the full series, you realize that it makes for a very, very crappy series. Why? Because the Yotsuba guys suck. They're boring. They're stupid and lack any real character. They never reach the level of "OMG COOL" that Light and L reach. Not only that, but because their saga takes sooooooo long, you're left without the single factor that makes Death Note so compelling: the battle of wits between Light and L. Not only that, but I think it's generally accepted that L's death is fairly anticlimatic. While Light's plan was absolutely genius, the way in which L dies is just sorta... meh.

For this reason, I'm hoping that either they do a FULL faithful adaptation of the manga (I've not read past the introduction of L's successors, though hearsay tells me the second half of the story is pretty crappy), or a retooling of the storyline to minimalize the involvement of Yotsuba and shorten the amount of time Light spends without the note--because let's face it; an honest Light is a boring Light.

Unfortunately, it confirms that Madhouse or whoever picks the content is determined to cut out every small instance that Light shows that he can sincerely care about another person. I didn't expect them to leave it in, and indeed they cut out the brief part where Light yells at L for saying he thinks Light is Kira which would upset his father. They've been keeping in the references about Light promising to send Kira to the executioner, but out of context of the instances where you see how much Light cares for/respects his father, it just seems like a recurring sike joke (to at least one person I've seen comment on it) rather than a sadly ironic lie. Edit: And another catch. According to a scanlation, L says of Light's promise to bring Kira to the electric chair if his father suffers, "No, it's way too corny to be an act" but in the anime he says something like "If it is, it's way too corny." Not sure if this is adopted from a Viz altered translation or the anime itself, but I would tend to suspect the latter. The idea being we can't have the great detective L confirming that Light isn't entirely cold-blooded. Also, as I read the scanlation of this chapter, I notice that they cut out the bit where Light profiles Kira. Oh, and now I just realized, it's because that ends in Light yelling at L for suggesting openly in front of his father that Sayu could be Kira by Light's criteria. Wow, it's like every bit they alter is to prevent the ambiguity in Light's character from coming into play, or to prevent certain parts from being interpreted as implying that. Another Edit: Oh, and they cut out the start when Sachiko is in the room and L estimates that the chance Kira will fail to kill isn't necessarily 0%. I wonder why. To tone down Light's way of bringing up the subject emotionally? Anyway, it does lend support to the theory that they're cutting down episodes to fit in just the first arc into 37 episodes, IMO.

Is it just me or have they been toning down the instances where L does cute things? If you read the manga (as you should if you read this topic) maybe you know what I mean by that... Like, his eyes seem eager, and he smiles while poking the inside of his cheek. I always noticed in the series the contrast between before L met Light when he was much more dull, to when he saw Light by camera comment that the 1500 agents coming into Japan was a fake and smiled in interest, to when he met Light and started to act more lively also. There's the idea that maybe he's become more energetic with the presence of another genius, and also the idea that he seemingly subconsciously constantly behaves is small ways which act to throw people off and render him unpredictable (and so his change in behavior is a way that he can exercise his unpredictability more freely, since he comes to be constantly in the presence of someone he needs to be offensively defensive toward). Anyway,

Spoiler for Might as well (Manga, major plot twist):

once Light forfeits the note, L's behavior becomes much more pronounced in that regard, as I recall. (so we'll see then)

So are we to assume that the series will only involve the first story in DN? Up to where Light kills L? Or are they going to introduce Near and Mello? Course the problem with that

Spoiler for major manga twist:

Is that Light becomes L and I found alot of vol 8 and 9 very boring since its alot of information

At the speed the story is being told, i can see then keeping it in.

So, next week we'll be getting Misa & Rem. Personally i can't wait to see Rem in the anime - it'll be interesting to see just how they'll capture her character.. and of course she'll have a female VA, though i can't imagine it. :3