(Original post by Spurious)No offense, but isnt KPMG hiring anyone who shows up on time?
I thought they were recruiting first and then filter people on the way to the top. Not sure what they could offer.

(Original post by Frenchous)
mods make an effort to increase advertising revenue

desperate firms make an effort to catch our attention

And we have to put up with their bull**** which has zero value added and the potential increased scrutiny of these firms on this forum which will prevent people from talking freely

Frenchous!

What's with the negativity?!
The anonimity on TSR enables our users to talk freely, openly and honestly and recruiters want to hear what TSR users think about a wide range of issues relating to their schemes.
Likewise, many of our users want to ask recruiters questions about their schemes, and to enable them to make an informed decision before applying.

This is the reason why regular, anonymous TSR users in these specific jobs can give honest and open advice, it's because we don't have to toe any company line.

It is the loss of anonymity by companies that makes their advice (to date) so useless, because they just trot out the same old platitudes you can find reading any company recruitment literature.

(Original post by JK)
and recruiters want to hear what TSR users think about a wide range of issues relating to their schemes.

They can do that simply by reading TSR over a period of time, it doesn't need a gilt edged invitation to participate.

(Original post by JK)
Likewise, many of our users want to ask recruiters questions about their schemes,

And there are many ways of doing this outside TSR. The issue is not the ability to ask questions, but the availability of honest, detailed, case specific answers that are not wrapped up in HR speak and political correctness.

(Original post by JK)
and to enable them to make an informed decision before applying.

There is little or no evidence that anyone you have brought in so far has done this. They just all parrot the party line and refer people to the standard, perfectly Google-able websites.

Perhaps little harm, it's just tedious to see companies given an opportunity to give authorised, sanctioned advice, and then waste that opportunity by just trotting out the standard info. There is no insider edge, no leverage for TSR users etc. It doesn't fill the gap between an anonymous, and therefore usually unsubstantiated advisor, and a company website. The gap is currently better filled by those of us that have stuck around, divulged enough information to establish our professional credibility, and give honest, accurate advice.

What's with the negativity?!
The anonimity on TSR enables our users to talk freely, openly and honestly and recruiters want to hear what TSR users think about a wide range of issues relating to their schemes.
Likewise, many of our users want to ask recruiters questions about their schemes, and to enable them to make an informed decision before applying.

Where's the harm in this?

JK

I couldn't give you a better reply than did the person who posted above.

Also as a rule of thumb it's better to be pessimistic so that you can be positively surprised from time to time.

Brilliantly said threeportdrift. As I see it, the only "achievement" of this thread was to revive the longstanding question of splitting IB from consulting, and yet surprise surprise, nothing has been done. Still.

- Client misunderstands source of competitive advantage (which is: regular visitors who are actually working in the industry, who can give insightful, impartial help to students; and is not: HR from accountancy firms).
- Consultant gives great advice (split IB forum from consulting forum to avoid driving these visitors away and thereby losing this source of competitive advantage).
- Nothing ever changes.

(Original post by crafty bison)
In fact, this is a microcosm of consulting, isn't it?

- Client misunderstands source of competitive advantage (which is: regular visitors who are actually working in the industry, who can give insightful, impartial help to students; and is not: HR from accountancy firms).
- Consultant gives great advice (split IB forum from consulting forum to avoid driving these visitors away and thereby losing this source of competitive advantage).
- Nothing ever changes.

Certainly it's a pattern I recognise, and I no longer hold my breath over any implementation phase.