John Buck 41:Hard to take seriously a sport that opens their year with the premier event. Has anyone at Nascar thought of moving the Daytona 500 to the last race of the season?

I think it's better to have it early in the season - it gets people paying attention. And over the last decade, do you really want the most important race to be a snoozefest as all #48 needs is to finish 35th or better?

/can you imagine Monaco as the F1 season finale? The championship might as well be awarded after qualifying.

John Buck 41:UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: John Buck 41: Hard to take seriously a sport that opens their year with the premier event. Has anyone at Nascar thought of moving the Daytona 500 to the last race of the season?

Life's short; eat dessert first!

That is apparently the philosophy. Hey, I've got an idea. Let's play the Super Bowl the day before Labor Day!

I like to refer to the aforementioned as 'The Daytona 500 of the NFL'. Always gets a chuckle except from those too stupid to get it.

Dumb-Ass-Monkey:But yeah, California has hosted NASCAR events for a long long time.

i just looked it up. California has been hosting various NASCAR events virtually every year since 1951. NASCAR was founded in 1949. So for all but 2 years of the history of NASCAR, California has been a part of the series. Southern roots, right?

John Buck 41:Hard to take seriously a sport that opens their year with the premier event. Has anyone at Nascar thought of moving the Daytona 500 to the last race of the season?

Well, the thing is the Daytona 500 is sort of a "wildcard" event. The last race of the season needs to be a very standard track, since its going to crown the champion most likely. Actually, with the current points system, its going to crown the champion pretty much 100% of the time.

You can't have a track like Daytona or Talledega be the final race. There's far too much good/bad luck involved.

It would be like hosting the Superbowl on an Arena Football League field.

Dumb-Ass-Monkey:Dumb-Ass-Monkey: But yeah, California has hosted NASCAR events for a long long time.

i just looked it up. California has been hosting various NASCAR events virtually every year since 1951. NASCAR was founded in 1949. So for all but 2 years of the history of NASCAR, California has been a part of the series. Southern roots, right?

Well Southern California does have the same type of racism that you'd see in the Deep South.

/Heh...had to go there//The article was stupid///Can't forget that they built the racetrack in an area locals call "Fon-tucky"

Dumb-Ass-Monkey:Dumb-Ass-Monkey: But yeah, California has hosted NASCAR events for a long long time.

i just looked it up. California has been hosting various NASCAR events virtually every year since 1951. NASCAR was founded in 1949. So for all but 2 years of the history of NASCAR, California has been a part of the series. Southern roots, right?

Actually, the article is even more BS than this. NASCAR still has southern roots. Most drivers are from the south, and almost every team is headquartered in the south. That's "roots". But beyond its roots... its fans and races are spread across the country. And have been forever, and especially since the 1990's.

Ok, you guys finally got me to go read this article. It's like they got someone who had no farking clue what he was talking about (and doesn't like NASCAR much) to make the point. He says:

most regrettably replacing the famed Southern 500 in Darlington, S.C., with a race emanating from California wine country.

Because left and right turns must be new herpaderp. It was Fontana that benefitted from that thing. Then he uses examples like Michigan (First NASCAR Race: 1969) and only earns half credit for Phoenix. (While it got a second race fairly recently, they've been going there since 88.) And that's before you get into the stupid hand wringing over Wonderboy.

gunsmack:Nascar got popular and priced itself right out of the fanbase's trailer park.

Actually, a NASCAR event is still by far the cheapest event to see out of all major sports. Tickets are like $40... probably less in some places. (I'm going off my personal experience seeing the Coca Cola 600- a premiere event. $40 tickets.)

Also, you don't need to buy concessions. You can bring in your own beer, liquor, and food. And if that's not enough, you have in-and-out privileges. So you could literally go back to your car and grill dinner during the boring part of a race.

Dumb-Ass-Monkey:Dumb-Ass-Monkey: But yeah, California has hosted NASCAR events for a long long time.

i just looked it up. California has been hosting various NASCAR events virtually every year since 1951. NASCAR was founded in 1949. So for all but 2 years of the history of NASCAR, California has been a part of the series. Southern roots, right?

California had one of the most vibrant racing scenes in the world from before WWII all the way to the present day. On any given weekend, several series are running everything from drags to road courses, and there are oval races all over the place.

downstairs:gunsmack: Nascar got popular and priced itself right out of the fanbase's trailer park.

Actually, a NASCAR event is still by far the cheapest event to see out of all major sports. Tickets are like $40... probably less in some places. (I'm going off my personal experience seeing the Coca Cola 600- a premiere event. $40 tickets.)

Also, you don't need to buy concessions. You can bring in your own beer, liquor, and food. And if that's not enough, you have in-and-out privileges. So you could literally go back to your car and grill dinner during the boring part of a race.

Can you imagine MLB, NFL, NBA allowing that sorta thing?

I love the freedom of being able to do just about whatever the fark you want at a race. I go to 2 a year (twins at Daytona and Homestead) I basically pay for my ticket. I bring everything else in with me. At Homestead parking is even free.

I honestly thought after Boston that they might rethink their cooler policy but so far I haven't heard anything about that.

downstairs:John Buck 41: Hard to take seriously a sport that opens their year with the premier event. Has anyone at Nascar thought of moving the Daytona 500 to the last race of the season?

Well, the thing is the Daytona 500 is sort of a "wildcard" event. The last race of the season needs to be a very standard track, since its going to crown the champion most likely. Actually, with the current points system, its going to crown the champion pretty much 100% of the time.

You can't have a track like Daytona or Talledega be the final race. There's far too much good/bad luck involved.

It would be like hosting the Superbowl on an Arena Football League field.

Or in NYC in a stadium with no dome. In early February 2014. I can't farking wait. Hopefully it will be a blizzard similar to the first weekend of February 2013.

John Buck 41:Hard to take seriously a sport that opens their year with the premier event. Has anyone at Nascar thought of moving the Daytona 500 to the last race of the season?

That whole Daytona == Superbowl of NASCAR is bullshiat. It has the biggest purse. That's it. It rewards the same number of points as any other race. It's beyond boring to attend in person. It's definitely not one of the better races on television.

John Buck 41:Or in NYC in a stadium with no dome. In early February 2014. I can't farking wait. Hopefully it will be a blizzard similar to the first weekend of February 2013.

If it beats the cluster fark that Dallas pulled on in the middle of an ice storm while trying to shove temporary bleachers in every open space while hosting events 30 miles away from the stadium...then it will still be better than that.