[QUOTE=garry;32376058]Of course you do.[/QUOTE]
Psychology never provides sufficient evidence, so you can't prove a certain variable made someone behave the way they are and we know psychology exists.

[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;32376043]How do you explain his miracles then?
How do you explain his followers seeing him after his death on the cross?[/QUOTE]
I saw David Blane hover 2 feet off the ground, it doesn't mean that he's the son of god. Or that he really did it.

[QUOTE=overpain;32376061]Garry,i completely agree with you this time.
Also,science already answered that it was from big bang[/QUOTE]
Where did the elements of the big bang come from?

[quote]Claims are not right until proven wrong with evidence..they are wrong until proven right with evidence.[/quote]
I'd say they're neither right nor wrong until proven right or wrong.

Religion is something to cover up the unknown. The questions people always asked, like 'what happens after you die'
Back in those times, people were afraid of the unknown. And now because of our achievments nowadays, the unknown isn't so frightening. So religion is becoming obsolete, it's had its time.

[QUOTE=Scar;32376066]Stories that were made up to make more people convert?[/QUOTE]
All the gospels describe these miracles from different people's account who actually saw these take place. And the fact that they're from different viewpoints with slight contradictions mean that there was no corroboration involved either.

[quote]Religion is something to cover up the unknown. The questions people always asked, like 'what happens after you die'
Back in those times, people were afraid of the unknown. And now because of our achievments nowadays, the unknown isn't so frightening. So religion is becoming obsolete, it's had its time.[/quote]
We still don't know what happens after you die, so it's not quite obsolete yet.

[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;32376118]All the gospels describe these miracles from different people's account who actually saw these take place. And the fact that they're from different viewpoints with slight contradictions mean that there was no corroboration involved either.[/QUOTE]
>Implying the Bible wasn't altered later

[QUOTE=BrQ;32376065]Yeah but if you're religious and really believe in god, you would take "God's word" over human evidence. That's how religion works.[/QUOTE]
Ok and if I wrote a book claiming that I am the mouth of god, my book has now taken priority over scientific evidence. With this im free to tell society what to do and I can say anyone who questions me is going to burn for eternity. My book is now more valid than scientific evidence right?

Religion is for fucking idiots
Sorry, i had to say it.

[QUOTE=garry;32376101]I saw David Blane hover 2 feet off the ground, it doesn't mean that he's the son of god. Or that he really did it.[/QUOTE]
Curing the blind and resurrecting the dead I think would be a bit harder to pull off.

[QUOTE=Zakkin;32376117]Religion is something to cover up the unknown. The questions people always asked, like 'what happens after you die'
Back in those times, people were afraid of the unknown. And now because of our achievments nowadays, the unknown isn't so frightening. So religion is becoming obsolete, it's had its time.[/QUOTE]
It also teaches moral, and by teaching moral I mean discriminating against homosexuals etc.

The logic is basically "If you don't believe in what this book says, you will suffer eternal torture in Hell. You don't want to go to hell, do you? Proof? Yeahh... Oh look, this candle just lit up by itself."

[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;32376154]Curing the blind and resurrecting the dead I think would be a bit harder to pull off.[/QUOTE]
Sorry to say non of that was proven though.

[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;32376154]Curing the blind and resurrecting the dead I think would be a bit harder to pull off.[/QUOTE]
Do you have any evidence for that?
And don't say the Bible

[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;32376118]All the gospels describe these miracles from different people's account who actually saw these take place. And the fact that they're from different viewpoints with slight contradictions mean that there was no corroboration involved either.[/QUOTE]
The problem I have with this was that these stories were written down after being told by mouth for 600 years. Even while writing everything down and with all our technology we still have a hard time being accurate about what happened 600 years ago.

[QUOTE=DrBreen;32376144]Religion is for fucking idiots
Sorry, i had to say it.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't call all of the narrow-minded idiots.

[QUOTE=Scar;32376138]>Implying the Bible wasn't altered later[/QUOTE]
We still have original versions of the gospels and other historical documents that say the same thing and were used to translate from

People who believe in religion are near sighted twats that think everything else that isn't written in their magic book will send you to hell.

[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;32376118]All the gospels describe these miracles from different people's account who actually saw these take place. And the fact that they're from different viewpoints with slight contradictions mean that there was no corroboration involved either.[/QUOTE]
Is all your evidence for religion 2000 years old?

[QUOTE=overpain;32376061]Garry,i completely agree with you this time.
Also,science already answered that it was from big bang[/QUOTE]
Science still can't explain what happens after death. Even if it could, the answer wouldn't satisfy people and they would still turn toward religion. Freud had a very interesting idea consisting in the fact that Religion was basically the reflect of the childish wish of being in the center of attention.

[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;32376175]We still have original versions of the gospels and other historical documents that say the same thing and were used to translate from[/QUOTE]
I would like you to prove that please

[QUOTE=Noble;32376139]Ok and if I wrote a book claiming that I am the mouth of god, my book has now taken priority over scientific evidence. With this im free to tell society what to do and I can say anyone who questions me is going to burn for eternity. My book is now more valid than scientific evidence right?[/QUOTE]
Who on earth are you even talking to? There's no fundies on Facepunch.

[QUOTE=RusMar;32376112]Where did the elements of the big bang come from?[/QUOTE]From where does god came?

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32376187]Science still can't explain what happens after death. Even if it could, the answer wouldn't satisfy people and they would still turn toward religion. Freud had a very interesting idea consisting in the fact that Religion was basically the reflect of the childish wish of being in the center of attention.[/QUOTE]
Of course it can? You bury your body and it rots into the ground. It's that simple.

[QUOTE=Key_in_skillee;32376171]The problem I have with this was that these stories were written down after being told by mouth for 600 years. Even while writing everything down and with all our technology we still have a hard time being accurate about what happened 600 years ago.[/QUOTE]
We've already been shown by ancient cultures like the Mayans that they can pass down history orally for hundreds of years word for word. The disciples took this very seriously and it wasn't like you trying to remember a grocery list or something.

[QUOTE=garry;32376206]Of course it can? You bury your body and it rots into the ground. It's that simple.[/QUOTE]
That's what happens to your body after death, not your consciousness. The idea of your body being all there is to you is very, very primitive.

Most of Christians and other religions use the argument from ignorance.
They say "I don't know how the Universe came to be, so therefore God did it."
Atheists just say "I don't know. There isn't any evidence for a god or gods doing it, so why should I believe in a god?"

[QUOTE=Key_in_skillee;32376202]Who on earth are you even talking to? There's no fundies on Facepunch.[/QUOTE]
I was referring to the concept of men writing a book about something and having it be considered more valid than proven facts.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32376187]Science still can't explain what happens after death. Even if it could, the answer wouldn't satisfy people and they would still turn toward religion. Freud had a very interesting idea consisting in the fact that Religion was basically the reflect of the childish wish of being in the center of attention.[/QUOTE]
There's nothing to explain though.
You die and that's it.