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DaiFrank wrote:

silurix wrote:

keithbob wrote:

silurix wrote:
The Dragons don't have many cards to play. Their resources don't allow any quick fix options. It will take time , shrewd management and the continued backing of their supporters to make the sort of progress we'd like to see. Although such progress is possible , it won't be quick and it won't be smooth.
If they rise one place up the table each year , that'll do me fine.

so one place up the table each year,sorry silurix i may be too old or even gone in ten years before i see us compete with the best.not good enough for me and im sure many others who struggle to make the effort year after year to turn up when the team doesnt!

I can see where you're coming from Keith and I agree its not much fun watching a side struggling to improve. But what are the options? There's no magic wand available. As long as the players and coaches show spirit and commitment to the cause then , for me, they are worth supporting though admittedly there are limits to anyone's patience. I'm assuming the slump since the new year was just a blip. If they finish 9th this year and improve by one place a year then in 4 years time they'll be challenging for the playoffs - that doesn't sound too bad to me.

I'd like some of those 'happy pills' you take! As Frank Zappa once said 'The Torture Never Stops'... perhaps you enjoy the pain of the long suffering NGDs? It's been a disaster from the start, every season is falsely going to be better in the fantasy world of the eternal optimist, but it never does. Promises by influential people are routinely broken. Tony Brown's plea to the fans - which convinced me by the way - 'stay with us, the future is going to be brighter' - was a sham. Currently it has not happened.

The problem of just putting up with it is that it allows Hazell et. al to continue to 'manage' things on the cheap. They bring in Lyn 'Gwent Dragons' Jones in the hope that, not totally unlike Moyes, he can bring out the best of a mediocre team. But the problem is that RP is rotten mostly at the top. CEO's come and go because of 'tight fiscal restraints'. Here's a question: Why doesn't Hazell et al invite other business people to invest? After all, the economic rewards of playing in Europe, more so now, are attractive. Of course there are also the rewards of status for the lowly NGDs, who are at the lower end of European Rugby. The 'sleeping giant' that Gough spoke of recently, was once spoken of by Neil Jenkins prior to Brown's brief intervention. It briefly woke up only to fall back into a deep coma. This is not the players fault. It's management. Granted the WRU has not helped the situation and it has been a long time coming that the Clubs finally stood up to them. Collectively they've been cowards. They've seen the light because of the inevitable decline of Welsh Club rugby.

I think you have this wrong. You talk about business investing in the Dragons. I would like to know of a business that has profited from putting money into regional rugby in Wales. Like most backers in top sport, they are throwing money into a deep pit or into over-inflated player salaries. The only thing the business people are likely to get out of it is a bit of kudos."

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