Re: How big would a 1min 4K video be?

4K on phones really seems like a novelty at this point, kinda a "Just because we can" thing.

Takes up a ton of space, not the best quality 4k, and nothing to view the content on anyway.

4K TVs are being released, I think its a good idea for phone companies to start implementing this in their phones before they actually get released
Sandisk has released a 128GB MicroSD card which I may consider so I can put movies and watch on my S5

Re: How big would a 1min 4K video be?

Originally Posted by smooth4lyfe

4K TVs are being released, I think its a good idea for phone companies to start implementing this in their phones before they actually get released
Sandisk has released a 128GB MicroSD card which I may consider so I can put movies and watch on my S5

Just to give you realistic expectations of where 4k at. 4k probably won't be mainstream for at least another 5-10 years. TVs are being pushed because the manufacturers are looking for a new revenue stream, not because the content is there to be consumed.

Re: How big would a 1min 4K video be?

Originally Posted by smooth4lyfe

4K TVs are being released, I think its a good idea for phone companies to start implementing this in their phones before...

I'm honestly curious about this. Exactly what do you think the benefit of a 4k screen on a phone would be, and why simply because high end 30 to 80 inch TV's are going to 4k would that necessarily mean 5 inch phones should?

Here's some numbers:

- The iPhone's "retina" screen, which is billed as at the limit of human visual perception, has a pixel density of 326 ppi.
- The Nexus 5 has a density of 445 ppi, which you strain to even begin to see at the closest distance you can focus (and I can focus @ 2.5 - 3 inches).
- A 5 inch screen with 4k resolution would be 926 ppi - over double the nexus 5.
- 4k video content is enormous - the film Timescapes is available @ 4k, the 52 minute movie is 120 gigs with ProRes encoding, 330 gigs with CineForm.

In all honesty, even IF the S5 had a 4k screen, and you were willing to dedicate an entire 128 gig SD card to each movie, your battery probably wouldn't last the duration of a single one with the little processor decoding and playing 4k video, AND you still wouldn't see any more clarity than a current 1080 screen.

So I'll ask again, exactly what do you think is the benefit of a 5 inch phone (even a 6 inch, hell, even a 7 inch tablet) having 4k resolution? Is watching movies THAT important to you? Sorry if this sounds harsh, but maybe you should get out and see the world in all it's resolution with your own eyes. Go skydiving, trust me, it's far more visually stunning than anything you can watch on TV... even a 4k one.

Re: How big would a 1min 4K video be?

Originally Posted by npco543

I'm honestly curious about this. Exactly what do you think the benefit of a 4k screen on a phone would be, and why simply because high end 30 to 80 inch TV's are going to 4k would that necessarily mean 5 inch phones should?

Here's some numbers:

- The iPhone's "retina" screen, which is billed as at the limit of human visual perception, has a pixel density of 326 ppi.
- The Nexus 5 has a density of 445 ppi, which you strain to even begin to see at the closest distance you can focus (and I can focus @ 2.5 - 3 inches).
- A 5 inch screen with 4k resolution would be 926 ppi - over double the nexus 5.
- 4k video content is enormous - the film Timescapes is available @ 4k, the 52 minute movie is 120 gigs with ProRes encoding, 330 gigs with CineForm.

In all honesty, even IF the S5 had a 4k screen, and you were willing to dedicate an entire 128 gig SD card to each movie, your battery probably wouldn't last the duration of a single one with the little processor decoding and playing 4k video, AND you still wouldn't see any more clarity than a current 1080 screen.

So I'll ask again, exactly what do you think is the benefit of a 5 inch phone (even a 6 inch, hell, even a 7 inch tablet) having 4k resolution? Is watching movies THAT important to you? Sorry if this sounds harsh, but maybe you should get out and see the world in all it's resolution with your own eyes. Go skydiving, trust me, it's far more visually stunning than anything you can watch on TV... even a 4k one.

Its pointless to watch 4K video on a phone, but for those who record and want to save them on a computer or stream them on a TV, its definitely something that would be great

I have that adapter which connects my phone to my TV and its actually pretty useful...If I were to get a 4K TV (which I am praying I can afford one), this will be amazing for me

Re: How big would a 1min 4K video be?

Just to give you realistic expectations of where 4k at. 4k probably won't be mainstream for at least another 5-10 years. TVs are being pushed because the manufacturers are looking for a new revenue stream, not because the content is there to be consumed.

Well I am talking about DVD Rips, not 4K movies
But It would be beneficial to test the 4K video and see how it is since I can't do it on a 32GB card
It may be true that it wont be mainstream for some time, but if the phone has the capacity to do so, I think its a good thing
I am pretty sure many other phone manufacturers will start implementing 4K in their phones this year

Re: How big would a 1min 4K video be?

I have that adapter which connects my phone to my TV and its actually pretty useful...If I were to get a 4K TV (which I am praying I can afford one), this will be amazing for me

You'll still have the issue of having to store each movie on individual 128 gig SD cards at about $120 a pop. It just seems like such a huge hassle and likely an overall negative impact on the device (more memory requirements, more processor requirements, larger battery, etc.) just to use a product for a purpose which it really doesn't serve - the playback device for a high-end home theater system.

Hey, I'd like to be able to jump start my car with my phone, my battery is always dying, so it would be awesome for me, and if they COULD put in a battery large enough to jump start my car, I think they should. Just think how much battery life all the people who don't need to jump start their cars would get. It'd be win/win.

I don't know, you might be right. I'm clearly out of touch, because I totally don't get this fascination with high definition television. Life's too short to spend time and money watching TV.

Re: How big would a 1min 4K video be?

I don't know, you might be right. I'm clearly out of touch, because I totally don't get this fascination with high definition television. Life's too short to spend time and money watching TV.

In 2003 I had bought a 55inch 350 pound 1080i tv, home theater system etc because the cinema experience had no longer become enjoyable for me.

Even back then, I still remember problems because people want to be play by play commentators during a film. Or better yet they bring their newborn/1year-2 year old child that wasn't equip to watch a movie.

When we forgot to be a polite society it became better for me to watch content at home and stay away from rude people.

Re: How big would a 1min 4K video be?

Originally Posted by npco543

You'll still have the issue of having to store each movie on individual 128 gig SD cards at about $120 a pop. It just seems like such a huge hassle and likely an overall negative impact on the device (more memory requirements, more processor requirements, larger battery, etc.) just to use a product for a purpose which it really doesn't serve - the playback device for a high-end home theater system.

Hey, I'd like to be able to jump start my car with my phone, my battery is always dying, so it would be awesome for me, and if they COULD put in a battery large enough to jump start my car, I think they should. Just think how much battery life all the people who don't need to jump start their cars would get. It'd be win/win.

I don't know, you might be right. I'm clearly out of touch, because I totally don't get this fascination with high definition television. Life's too short to spend time and money watching TV.

HDTV is pretty amazing...I am the kind of person that is into that kind of technology so it would be awesome for me
If I were to get one 128GB, I could record videos and then transfer them to my HD...and I wouldn't be recording videos like every day so its not a big deal

If you think about it cell phones are not really used for "phones" anymore...they are more like a personal entertainment device, so phones keeping up with the technology I think is a good thing

Re: How big would a 1min 4K video be?

Just to give you realistic expectations of where 4k at. 4k probably won't be mainstream for at least another 5-10 years. TVs are being pushed because the manufacturers are looking for a new revenue stream, not because the content is there to be consumed.

Re: How big would a 1min 4K video be?

Re: How big would a 1min 4K video be?

Originally Posted by npco543

So I'll ask again, exactly what do you think is the benefit of a 5 inch phone (even a 6 inch, hell, even a 7 inch tablet) having 4k resolution? Is watching movies THAT important to you? Sorry if this sounds harsh, but maybe you should get out and see the world in all it's resolution with your own eyes. Go skydiving, trust me, it's far more visually stunning than anything you can watch on TV... even a 4k one.

The question isnt why but why not. As long as its stable and not laggy then why not. Its just soon to be the natural course of things. Having the mentality that its good enough will slow if not stop progression. I get what you mean about getting out and seeing the world but why cant I have amazing graphics on my phone as well. If we all just went out and enjoyed the world then whats the point of the smartphone.. movies.. video games.. nearly everything electronic.