Yrelka in Patch 7.3 - Main Universe Yrel?

The Patch 7.3 PTR adds the NPC 사령관, who bears more than a passing similarity to 총독 이렐 from Warlords of Draenor. Could they be related?

While their hairstyles are different, both NPCs are female draenei in positions of power (Exarch/Commander), wearing Paladin tier relevant to their expansion, and share the same basic audio files voiced by Erin Fitzgerald. Yrelka wears armor that heavily resembles Mythic Tier 21 Paladin Armor, but the boots, belts, and gloves are different. They instead resemble Yrel's old armor.

In Warlords of Draenor, Yrel started as a healer acolyte at the Temple of Karabor. Through questlines in 어둠달 골짜기, 탈라도르, 고르그론드, 나그란드, and 타나안 밀림 we witness her ascent to power and maturity. She is last seen helping players defeat Archimonde in Hellfire Citadel, along with Khadgar and Grommash. At the fight's conclusion, she pledges to rebuild Draenor and promises Khadgar her assistance should he need her help.

So, has Khadgar called upon Yrel's assistance in Legion and Yrel answered his call by moving between timelines? Is Yrelka a separate character--an MU version of Yrel? Are they completely unrelated and just share similar names? Do note that the 7.3 PTR is still early, so details are subject to change.

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MisterCrow의 댓글

on 2017-07-03T10:47:33-05:00

Yrelka's appearance differs from Yrel only in the hairstyle and the skintone. The fact that the same facial structure, voicefiles, and disposition as a paladin are used is a pretty good indicator that there's meant to be a connection between the two of them.

There is room for MU Yrel to escape Draenor: Step 1) Yrel survives alongside Prophet Velen, up to and including the destruction of Shattrath. (Samaara being among those draenei who stayed in Shattrath to "sell" the draenei's destruction would be as traumatic for MU Yrel as her murder by Ner'zhul was for AU Yrel.)Step 2) Yrel somehow follows Alleria and Turalyon through whatever portal landed them with the Army of the Light. Step 3) ?Step 4) Yrelka and profit.

Her father is largely unimportant, since she's clearly intended to be Yrel Jr.

And it's also entirely possible that Yrelka is only there as a nod to Yrel and not really intended to be more than a cameo, while also maintaining the ban on (non-Gul'dan) WoD characters crossing back into the MU.

I don't think there's any time/space shenanigans necessary to explain how this happens, because while WoD gave us a pretty solid indication that Yrel didn't survive in the MU, we were never specifically TOLD what happened to MU Yrel.

CaptainDope의 댓글

on 2017-07-03T11:04:44-05:00

If they add MU Yrel in 7.3 instead of AU Yrel, that pretty much confirms that Blizzard have decided to forget WoD ever happened and swept it under the rug.

Chaxton의 댓글

on 2017-07-03T11:31:43-05:00

I was tired of Yrel when she got shoehorned as an Exarch and caused Maraad to die. I don't want to see another dumb character like her. Please please PLEASE just let her be some side NPC with no importance to the story.

tsukasadt의 댓글

on 2017-07-03T11:49:16-05:00

Yrelka's appearance differs from Yrel only in the hairstyle and the skintone. The fact that the same facial structure, voicefiles, and disposition as a paladin are used is a pretty good indicator that there's meant to be a connection between the two of them.

There is room for MU Yrel to escape Draenor: Step 1) Yrel survives alongside Prophet Velen, up to and including the destruction of Shattrath. (Samaara being among those draenei who stayed in Shattrath to "sell" the draenei's destruction would be as traumatic for MU Yrel as her murder by Ner'zhul was for AU Yrel.)Step 2) Yrel somehow follows Alleria and Turalyon through whatever portal landed them with the Army of the Light. Step 3) ?Step 4) Yrelka and profit.

Her father is largely unimportant, since she's clearly intended to be Yrel Jr.

And it's also entirely possible that Yrelka is only there as a nod to Yrel and not really intended to be more than a cameo, while also maintaining the ban on (non-Gul'dan) WoD characters crossing back into the MU.

I don't think there's any time/space shenanigans necessary to explain how this happens, because while WoD gave us a pretty solid indication that Yrel didn't survive in the MU, we were never specifically TOLD what happened to MU Yrel.

I do agree with you that they are likely related. There are a few noticeable differences between the two models that could indicate intent for this to be so, rather than the original proposed theory that she's the MU Yrel:

Of course, the second two may be skewed by the manual manipulation of the model viewer. I was VERY careful not to rotate or angle them as I dragged the models into position and took care to ensure I snapped the screenshots as the same position in their animation, but I'm not a computer. :(

Also, I completely agree and hope the MU Yrel is alive, or at least survived the destruction of Draenor, but I still can't help feeling that while the majority of the facial structure is a solid duplication of Yrel's that there's also a significantly greater level of maturity to it. This leads me, more than anything, to thinking Yrelka would predate Yrel.

Talihawk의 댓글

on 2017-07-03T11:57:35-05:00

Uh it's not like Blizzard ever changes their mind on things. I'm hopping on the Descendant of Yurel bandwagon here.

HighlanderBoots의 댓글

on 2017-07-03T12:38:12-05:00

We'd know for certain if her name was "Yrel_PH".

Taarakian의 댓글

on 2017-07-03T12:38:45-05:00

I hope it is her. I miss Yrel.

BlueOctopus의 댓글

on 2017-07-03T13:24:25-05:00

I feel like this might just be the Yrel from the main universe. The Yrel we know was in an alternate universe where things were a bit different anyways. So having this universe's Yrel be on Argus wouldn't be far-fetched. The Ka added to her name might just be a temporary name, perhaps the Wow Database wouldn't let them use Yrel without bugs? It's PTR so literally everything could change.

sgtevmckay의 댓글

on 2017-07-03T13:27:37-05:00

Erk....grumble grumble.....

I just want Yrel's MaceBeen waiting on this one to get released to the wild since it was Datamined back before WoD was releasedI have had teh T-mog ironed out for it before we knew it would be unavailable :/just want the T-Mog/look of it as it is a single handed weapon and not listed and common 2-handed which is readily available.

PS. I will steal this updated set of armour right off her back as well

tatsuran의 댓글

on 2017-07-03T14:03:12-05:00

Looks seriously like her. Would be awesome :3

Dualwielder의 댓글

on 2017-07-03T14:07:39-05:00

Considering there also being a "vindicator Nobundo", when 'our' Nobundo clearly lost his connection to the Light and became a shaman, I am pretty confident that this Yrel is the alternate reality one.

Deployed의 댓글

on 2017-07-03T14:28:52-05:00

I personally hope that she's not from the Warlords AU, simply because that universe is a bit of a mess that has far too many far reaching loose-ends and I would rather have it be left alone.

So I'm leaning towards her being MU (can we really call it 'MU' since it's at least the second version of Azeroth's timeline thanks to Rhonin, Brox and Krasus?), but I agree that the name difference means this is not likely to be Yrel herself, but rather a relation of hers. Considering the differences in the histories in Shadowmoon characters alone (with Ner'zhuls mate still being alive), I can believe that, in the MU, Samaara survived and Yrel died, and this could very well be Yrel's niece. Since what we saw in Warlords is based 30-34 years in the past, that means that Yrel's niece could easily be an adult now in our timeline. What doesn't work for me is how light her skin colour is. Samaara's skin was even darker than Yrel's.

CaptainDope의 댓글

on 2017-07-03T14:39:53-05:00

Considering there also being a "vindicator Nobundo", when 'our' Nobundo clearly lost his connection to the Light and became a shaman, I am pretty confident that this Yrel is the alternate reality one.

Is he in 7.3? on Argus? I search for him but only find NPC names of him on Draenor.

Casn의 댓글

on 2017-07-03T14:42:10-05:00

The audio files really don't mean anything more than she's a Beta character. New audio files may not have been loaded yet.

I also want to clear something up: the Man'ari didn't adopt the name "Eredar". The Draenei and Man'ari are both Eredar, that's the name of their species. When Sargeras empowered those Eredar that would join him, they became the Man'ari, or corrupted Eredar. They are commonly referred to as Eredar, which makes sense considering they are the faction that kept their homeworld. The Eredar that refused to join Sargeras fled Argus and took upon themselves the name Draenei, or exiled ones. It's not a name for their species, but for their faction amongst the species; and there was no third faction of Eredar (the Broken don't count as a third faction when you consider they're really just a subfaction of the Draenei).

Generic audio files, like ones used by Young Sargeras, are no indication of anything. But she is not using generic Draenei audio files that default NPC would be using. She is using Yrel files, either because she's supposed to, or because she is based on her

Man'ari essentially *did* 'adopt' name Eredar, because Draenei kind of discarded it, 'orphaning' it. So while Draenei had better claim to the name (unlike Man'ari, retaining original racial traits of Eredar), they discarded it. And since Man'ari was kind of an insult (describing something very wrong), Man'ari had no reason to use it to describe themselves. And with "Eredar" not being in use anymore, they went with a name they were using before, despite essentially being now different spieces..Draenei also essentially became name of 'new old' spieces, because they are now different from Man'ari/Eredar.

Broken on Outland are subspieces/mutation/whatever of Draenei that remained there, but then on Argus there are also "broken-like" (I've seen no confirmation what they call themselves), and since Draenei left Argus, they must have came from pre-Man'ari Eredar. Calling them 'faction' of Draenei is blasphemy, since they were left behind by them, and unlike those on Outland, those on Argus were never part of Draenei

Vehhuiah의 댓글

on 2017-07-03T14:56:11-05:00

Even though my main is a draenei, and most of my alts are draenei, my first reaction was "KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!".

Gronker의 댓글

on 2017-07-03T15:30:24-05:00

PTR is PTR. Maybe she's (MU) Yrel, maybe just a MU character 'inspired' by Yrel, and/or copied off that named NPC's template. We'll know for sure if the NPC gets renamed.

Is Yrelka a part of the Army of the Light? Unless the changes in WoD's AU range back at least 13000 years, Yrelka can't be Yrel. We know of no interactions between the Army and the Draenei (or Azeroth)

The Army of the Light likely originated partly in Outland--where Alleria and Turalyon were last seen prior to Legion. It's been some time since Beyond the Dark Portal, though, so it would make sense that Yrel was a member of the Army of the Light and Yrelka is her daughter, likely having joined to serve due to her mother's death.

tsukasadt의 댓글

on 2017-07-03T16:01:59-05:00

The audio files really don't mean anything more than she's a Beta character. New audio files may not have been loaded yet.

I also want to clear something up: the Man'ari didn't adopt the name "Eredar". The Draenei and Man'ari are both Eredar, that's the name of their species. When Sargeras empowered those Eredar that would join him, they became the Man'ari, or corrupted Eredar. They are commonly referred to as Eredar, which makes sense considering they are the faction that kept their homeworld. The Eredar that refused to join Sargeras fled Argus and took upon themselves the name Draenei, or exiled ones. It's not a name for their species, but for their faction amongst the species; and there was no third faction of Eredar (the Broken don't count as a third faction when you consider they're really just a subfaction of the Draenei).

Generic audio files, like ones used by Young Sargeras, are no indication of anything. But she is not using generic Draenei audio files that default NPC would be using. She is using Yrel files, either because she's supposed to, or because she is based on her

Man'ari essentially *did* 'adopt' name Eredar, because Draenei kind of discarded it, 'orphaning' it. So while Draenei had better claim to the name (unlike Man'ari, retaining original racial traits of Eredar), they discarded it. And since Man'ari was kind of an insult (describing something very wrong), Man'ari had no reason to use it to describe themselves. And with "Eredar" not being in use anymore, they went with a name they were using before, despite essentially being now different spieces..Draenei also essentially became name of 'new old' spieces, because they are now different from Man'ari/Eredar.

Broken on Outland are subspieces/mutation/whatever of Draenei that remained there, but then on Argus there are also "broken-like" (I've seen no confirmation what they call themselves), and since Draenei left Argus, they must have came from pre-Man'ari Eredar. Calling them 'faction' of Draenei is blasphemy, since they were left behind by them, and unlike those on Outland, those on Argus were never part of Draenei

The audio files really don't mean anything until we know what role this NPC will actually have. Considering the similarities to Yrel, it's possible they just cloned all of her character data and haven't gotten to changing that.

To be perfectly clear, the Man'ari never stopped referring to themselves as Eredar. As I pointed out, this makes sense considering they are the Eredar. The Draenei are the originators of naming them Man'ari, which has no set meaning but instead refers to something that is simply wrong, or corrupted. While they are corrupted by the fel, they're still Eredar. Just as the Draenei and Broken are also Eredar.

As for the Broken not being a subfaction of the Draenei, how do you figure? They are the outcasts of the outcasts because they, too, had become corrupted by the fel, just not to anywhere near the extent of the Man'ari, and their corruption was through exposure to the fel, not it being woven into them. They're deformed, but they're still Draenei/Eredar. To say they're not is no different than saying someone scarred by fire is not human.

With regards to Broken being present on Argus, considering the Broken are Eredar corrupted through exposure to the fel without "becoming one with the fel", is that really so surprising? It's not hard to accept that Velen was unable to take everyone that wished to leave with him. Life happens. People get left behind because x happened or y got in their way of leaving. The Eredar were an advanced race. It's not terribly difficult to believe that some of those left behind managed to find a way to hide from the Man'ari, or some other reasoning that would explain non-Man'ari Eredar being present on Argus. Maybe they were captured by the demons in Outlands, or they came from Outlands to join in the crusade against the Burning Legion and return to their homeworld.

I'm not 100% up-to-date of the latest lore content, but there are many possibilities for why there would be Broken on Argus.

Mightylorddk의 댓글

on 2017-07-03T16:03:39-05:00

People crying out for MU Yrel clearly have no idea about Alternate Realities. I wont go through quantum physics, but I'd say: "there's no need to have someone's counterpart in different realities". And we've seen that in WoD. Varok Saurfang, Garrosh doesn't exists in WoD universe. But Rulkan exists in AU while she's long dead in MU. Even though there was AU Velen but Kiljaedan, Mannoroth and Archimonde were above any kind of reality and they have only one existence. So this "Yrelka" could be anyone, but it doesn't mean that AU Yrel MUST HAVE a counter part in MU.

Rogvar의 댓글

on 2017-07-03T16:44:15-05:00

1. This is not related to quantum physics. If alternate realities are born from timeline deviation at some point, then everyone present in the splitting reality before the deviation point must exist in both versions Their fates could be different afterwards - they could be dead in one reality and alive in another. But at start they should exist in both realities and in the same state. Of course, those that were born after deviation, like Garrosh, do not need to have counterparts.

We encounter Yrel in WoD, which I think is technically 4 or 5 years after deviation moment - but she definitely does not look 5 years old. So she should have been there at deviation point - and then she MUST have MU counterpart. Maybe dead, of course.

2. MU Yrel could not leave Outland with Alleria and Turalyon for a simple reason: she would be Broken then. Only draenei that left Draenor with Velen on Exodar remained draenei; those that stayed on Draenor covering Velen exodus were mutated when Alliance Expedition later came to Draenor and Ner'zhul caused nether explosion turning Draenor into Outland. And Alleria and Turalyon left Outland after that moment, Ner'zhul explosion was last mission in WC2 BtDP and all Expedition was still there. It's interesting to note BTW, that none of Azeroth "guests" have changed, Khadgar and Danath remained humans, Kurdran is normal dwarf. But all draenei were mutated.

And after the explosion Dark Portal was closed, Expedition cut from home started settling on Draenor, and Alleria even established Allerian hold... and then she and Turalyon somehow left. They were not there when we returned in TBC. But they left after Ner'zhul explosion, and thus MU Yrel - if she was there - would be Broken.

I only see one reasonable way for Yrelka to be MU Yrel: she left Draenor with Velen on Exodar, lived unnoticed in Exodar all these years (we do not expect Blizzard have shown us all simple townsfolk of Exodar, right?) and now, as Argus portal is open, Velen sent her to Argus ahead of us. As his emissary or something like this.

Probably she lived the life of simple peaceful priestess, and then Velen learned of AU Yrel, came to MU Yrel and said something like "I know you have potential for battle that can be realized under right circumstances, and in this time of war you have to find in yourself what your counterpart did".

Bumbac의 댓글

on 2017-07-03T16:48:27-05:00

Obviously Sargeras in disguise. How can you be so foolish to not see that?