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So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

before i start, there are some things i would like to point out. this is something i found on the net on other forum.

Observations:

(1) When Madara used his sent out his normal Susanoo, his eye assumed a normal EMS form.

(2) He could not use Rinnegan Preta Path to absorb Jinton while his EMS was activated, since his Rinnegan was not activated.

(3) Also previously, he has to switch to the Rinnegan before he could absorb Jinton. Of which, Susanoo dissipated when he did it.

(4) When he switched to the Rinnegan, his perfect Susanoo form was shown.

(5) Therefore I believe that the Rinnegan and the EMS are mutually exclusive of each other, AND the Susanoo Perfect form is actually a Rinnegan power, but it is probably usable only by people with BOTH the Rinnegan, and all previously unlocked stages of the sharingan.

Hmmm I am not sure, but maybe I might be wrong on some parts. The Rinnegan was used together with Susanoo with that meteorite jutsu. Perhaps it's usable with Susanoo, but not with the other Rinnegan jutsus if EMS is employed?

Conversely, the EMS was used for genjutsu. Perhaps the Rinnegan had no such

now people may say that it is because he already had rinnegan when he activated PS but then why does he change back to his EMS when he uses a genjutsu on A.

the last thing is that madara could not use susanoo when using preta path and vice versa

he says that the susanoo were not fast enough to avoid the jinton but why not absorb it? because he could not.

in my other thread i stated that PS was not exactly an rinnegan tech but an EMS tech greatly improved by senju DNA. the combination of the the uchiha's powerful chakra and spiritual energy and the senju's life force and physical energy.

but according to other people, i am wrong and only EMS is needed.

but i thought about something when madara first uses his PS he refers to this as his full power, so if this is true then that means that EMS is stronger than the Rinnegan? and in my eyes, thats absolutely wrong...

Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

Originally Posted by Akatsuki wise guy

Madara already said he had it in his fight with hashirama and he only had ems back then.

I don't believe you.. Never did he say that. If your referring to Tsunade saying "My grandfather fought against this?" then you are delusional. She only assumed. At the time she said that, Madara was using his Rinnegan.

before i start, there are some things i would like to point out. this is something i found on the net on other forum.

Observations:

(1) When Madara used his sent out his normal Susanoo, his eye assumed a normal EMS form.

(2) He could not use Rinnegan Preta Path to absorb Jinton while his EMS was activated, since his Rinnegan was not activated.

(3) Also previously, he has to switch to the Rinnegan before he could absorb Jinton. Of which, Susanoo dissipated when he did it.

(4) When he switched to the Rinnegan, his perfect Susanoo form was shown.

(5) Therefore I believe that the Rinnegan and the EMS are mutually exclusive of each other, AND the Susanoo Perfect form is actually a Rinnegan power, but it is probably usable only by people with BOTH the Rinnegan, and all previously unlocked stages of the sharingan.

Hmmm I am not sure, but maybe I might be wrong on some parts. The Rinnegan was used together with Susanoo with that meteorite jutsu. Perhaps it's usable with Susanoo, but not with the other Rinnegan jutsus if EMS is employed?

Conversely, the EMS was used for genjutsu. Perhaps the Rinnegan had no such

now people may say that it is because he already had rinnegan when he activated PS but then why does he change back to his EMS when he uses a genjutsu on A.

the last thing is that madara could not use susanoo when using preta path and vice versa

he says that the susanoo were not fast enough to avoid the jinton but why not absorb it? because he could not.

in my other thread i stated that PS was not exactly an rinnegan tech but an EMS tech greatly improved by senju DNA. the combination of the the uchiha's powerful chakra and spiritual energy and the senju's life force and physical energy.

but according to other people, i am wrong and only EMS is needed.

but i thought about something when madara first uses his PS he refers to this as his full power, so if this is true then that means that EMS is stronger than the Rinnegan? and in my eyes, thats absolutely wrong...

I had tried to prove this a month ago or something, everyone bashed me for it bro. Clearly PS is a Rinnegan technique.

before i start, there are some things i would like to point out. this is something i found on the net on other forum.

Observations:

(1) When Madara used his sent out his normal Susanoo, his eye assumed a normal EMS form.

(2) He could not use Rinnegan Preta Path to absorb Jinton while his EMS was activated, since his Rinnegan was not activated.

(3) Also previously, he has to switch to the Rinnegan before he could absorb Jinton. Of which, Susanoo dissipated when he did it.

(4) When he switched to the Rinnegan, his perfect Susanoo form was shown.

(5) Therefore I believe that the Rinnegan and the EMS are mutually exclusive of each other, AND the Susanoo Perfect form is actually a Rinnegan power, but it is probably usable only by people with BOTH the Rinnegan, and all previously unlocked stages of the sharingan.

Hmmm I am not sure, but maybe I might be wrong on some parts. The Rinnegan was used together with Susanoo with that meteorite jutsu. Perhaps it's usable with Susanoo, but not with the other Rinnegan jutsus if EMS is employed?

Conversely, the EMS was used for genjutsu. Perhaps the Rinnegan had no such

now people may say that it is because he already had rinnegan when he activated PS but then why does he change back to his EMS when he uses a genjutsu on A.

the last thing is that madara could not use susanoo when using preta path and vice versa

he says that the susanoo were not fast enough to avoid the jinton but why not absorb it? because he could not.

in my other thread i stated that PS was not exactly an rinnegan tech but an EMS tech greatly improved by senju DNA. the combination of the the uchiha's powerful chakra and spiritual energy and the senju's life force and physical energy.

but according to other people, i am wrong and only EMS is needed.

but i thought about something when madara first uses his PS he refers to this as his full power, so if this is true then that means that EMS is stronger than the Rinnegan? and in my eyes, thats absolutely wrong...

Perfect Susanoo is a MS tech. Both Itachi and Sasuke has shown it. (The one with the long nose and jewel). The Perfect Susanoo stablized that can cut a mountain is exclusive to Madara and Itachi and Sasuke dont have it. It has nothing to do with Rinnegan.

Hey guys have you noticed something? Sasuke is adept with Amaterasu (can form it any way he wants). Itachi si adept with Tsukuyomi (can control time and space freely). Madara is adept with Susanoo (HUGE as **** and stabilized.) Wierd huh?

Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

Originally Posted by Encon Uchiha

Perfect Susanoo is a MS tech. Both Itachi and Sasuke has shown it. (The one with the long nose and jewel). The Perfect Susanoo stablized that can cut a mountain is exclusive to Madara and Itachi and Sasuke dont have it. It has nothing to do with Rinnegan.

Hey guys have you noticed something? Sasuke is adept with Amaterasu (can form it any way he wants). Itachi si adept with Tsukuyomi (can control time and space freely). Madara is adept with Susanoo (HUGE as **** and stabilized.) Wierd huh?

As i can recall, there is only Susano'o and apparently a Perfect Susano'o. Itachi and Sasuke both have Susano'o(EMS or MS doesn't matter), and Madara has PS due to him having the Rinnegan.

Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

As i can recall, there is only Susano'o and apparently a Perfect Susano'o. Itachi and Sasuke both have Susano'o(EMS or MS doesn't matter), and Madara has PS due to him having the Rinnegan.

Originally Posted by Sasuke082594

What he said.

Sasuke perfect Susanoo '

Itachi perfect Susanoo

Madara perfect Susanoo

Madara perfect Susanoo (chakra stabilized)

I hope that helps guys. Madaras is bigger because he is adept at Susanoo and was known to have one of the most powerful chakras in Narutoverse. The stabilized version is only exclusize to Madara though.

i have extensive knowledge about Susanoo and prolly will explain it all in a thread later but right now i gotta go to class,i can maybe reply there but it wil be hard

Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

Originally Posted by Encon Uchiha

Sasuke perfect Susanoo '

Itachi perfect Susanoo

Madara perfect Susanoo

Madara perfect Susanoo (chakra stabilized)

I hope that helps guys. Madaras is bigger because he is adept at Susanoo and was known to have one of the most powerful chakras in Narutoverse. The stabilized version is only exclusize to Madara though.

i have extensive knowledge about Susanoo and prolly will explain it all in a thread later but right now i gotta go to class,i can maybe reply there but it wil be hard

So here you tell me that Itachi(MS user) has PS just because of the pointed nose? Yet Sasuke(EMS user) has PS, but doesn't even have a pointed nose? This actually proves that Madara's PS is only a Rinnegan technique, it's perfect due to it being completely mobile, as in arms and legs. When SM Naruto attacked EMS Madara with multiple giant Rasengans why did he bring up PS?