John Tavares

False. Kovy, Hossa, expensive rentals... they didn't get THAT much, and only did because their teams thought they could push them over the top... they didn't get that much because they thought they could re-sign them... it was for a chance at the cup.

NYI has no chance at the cup. Which is why they don't value rentals. A chance to negotiate with a guy to potentially sign with your team is worth approximately a 3rd rounder if he's good.

That's not true. Shea Weber had one year left on his deal as well, and the asking price was Schenn + Couturier ++. To think that it would just be for a rental is absurd. Obviously when a team gives up a lot of assets they do so because they believe they can sign him long-term. Not only for a cup run. After a season of playing with the team, they'd be far more likely to re-sign with them than they would otherwise.

That's not true. Shea Weber had one year left on his deal as well, and the asking price was Schenn + Couturier ++. To think that it would just be for a rental is absurd. Obviously when a team gives up a lot of assets they do so because they believe they can sign him long-term. Not only for a cup run. After a season of playing with the team, they'd be far more likely to re-sign with them than they would otherwise.

1-That was this summer, when Weber was RFA, when Philly was allowed to negotiate with him. Philly knew Weber had interest.
2-They could have agreed to a deal before the trade
3-The deal didn't go through

There is no way for NYI to negotiate with Edler during the season, without Vanconver completely ruining their relationship with him by saying they want to trade him. It's a completely different situation. There is no way to know if Edler would sign long term, it's tampering.

1-That was this summer, when Weber was RFA, when Philly was allowed to negotiate with him. Philly knew Weber had interest.
2-They could have agreed to a deal before the trade
3-The deal didn't go through

There is no way for NYI to negotiate with Edler during the season, without Vanconver completely ruining their relationship with him by saying they want to trade him. It's a completely different situation. There is no way to know if Edler would sign long term, it's tampering.

Players are professionals. They aren't going to say "You were willing to trade me so I don't want to be here anymore. They know the GMs goal is to win a cup, not to make one big happy family.

And I'll say it once more. All these deals that happen when you see an impending UFA being traded for kings' ransoms wouldn't happen if the team knew he would walk after. They obviously value the fact that they now have exclusive rights to negotiate an extension. If they think they can extend him, then that has value to them.

He would have been when he was only a season removed from that one, yes. Right now the Sedins are arguably the best forwards in the Western Conference. For the past 3 seasons one or the other has led it in scoring, and in 2 of those 3 seasons they led the entire league in points. Scoring for the entire Western Conference went down as a whole last year, but in the East I think it's highly possible they put up 100 points again.

Gomez is too far removed to be considered a 30-goal, 80 point player anymore, and coupled with his cap hit, it makes him highly undesirable.

He would have been when he was only a season removed from that one, yes. Right now the Sedins are arguably the best forwards in the Western Conference. For the past 3 seasons one or the other has led it in scoring, and in 2 of those 3 seasons they led the entire league in points. Scoring for the entire Western Conference went down as a whole last year, but in the East I think it's highly possible they put up 100 points again.

Gomez is too far removed to be considered a 30-goal, 80 point player anymore, and coupled with his cap hit, it makes him highly undesirable.

So a proven 100 points player is someone who did it once in his 11 season career ?