Comments posted by jackson from Other, May 05, 2003:
Burns at 2 speed without any problems. Plays 100% ok in all 3 DVD players I have. No glitches, no stuttering, no skips no freezing. Seems to be a very good media to me.

Comments posted by neil from Other, March 03, 2003:
DVR-105 and media.

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Response (Customer Relations) - 03/03/2003 04:42 PM
Hi i have recently purchesed 3x 105 drives, but have come accross a loose end, using dvdr media i am getting unsupported problems with BULK PAQ... i have learn that one type is ok but the other is not with GEN 3 & 4.

i have been told by bulk paq that the dye now use is by another manufactur, and the problem is down to the FIRMWARE IMPERFECTIONS within the 105.

I also have spoken to a few shops and they too have said this... Yet they all work fine on the 103/104????, this puzzles me..

I have even read and been told that the firmware black lists sertain types of media as such, preventing them writing correct in the new 105????

IF the media is infact of such pore quallity how and why does it write ok in all your other drives?

Is there any truth to the firmware problem?

Can you recomend any types of media that i can buy which will work on the 105 ok?

Will they be any firmware upgrades soon to solve this?

thanks for your time and look forward to hearing from you...

Neil

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Hi Neil,

The problems you describe is common of users of some brands of media, We are aware of a few brands of media on the UK market that do not fully comply with the DVD forum specifications for a DVD-R disk, these brands include Bulkpaq.

The problem is in the way the media manufacturers have produce the disks and not due to a fault with our drives or the firmware.

For a DVD-R disk to comply with the DVD forum specifications it must have a media manufacturer code and a full Media ID code written to the disk, contained within the media ID code is the calibration information for the disk, the calibration information has always been a part of the specification.

The previous DVD-RW drives only read the start of the media ID code and used that to set the write speed of the media, the drive would actually calibrate its self to the disks, Some manufacturers took advantage of this fact and produced fake DVD-R disks with Media ID codes from anther manufacturer, these disks then were able to be used at 2x in our drives, however the quality of recording of these disks when written at 2x is poor and therefore these disk are not recommended or supported by Pioneer as 2x disks.

With the implementation of 4x DVD-R disks, the drive now needs to read the full media codes including the calibration information, the drive will use this calibration information for writing to the disk, It no longer needs to do a test calibration to the disk, If this information is missing, malformed or fake then the disks may fail to work correctly, this is a fault of the disks.

The only way to know exactly what disks you have is to read the Media ID code, More information about this can be found at:

Pioneer does not blacklist media, this would not be in anyone's interests, however if disks do not conform to the forum standards then Pioneer can not support there use in our drives, they may fail due there missing or misleading codes.

If you are having problems with your disks can you find the disks Media ID codes and email back with them

Comments posted by Roadkill from Other, February 20, 2003:
Princo with a "TDK" media code are not made by TDK, nor are they licensed by TDK. They are forgeries. The most likely reason is that Princo wants to pass of these low quality 1x media, untested by Pioneer, as 2x in Pioneer burners.

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Comments posted by John from Other, February 11, 2003:
I bought 50 of these discs at AU$130 and so far I have used 35 and all of them have performed flawlessly, I have played the discs on wide range of different brand of players such as Sony, Pioneer, Onkyo, Conia ( cheap chinese brand), Playstation 2 console and two other cheap cheap chinese dvd players. It burns at 2x.

Comments posted by Ranma^ from Other, February 01, 2003:
these are CRAP. Everything I burned on them last year no longer read in my A03, my A05, nor in my apex. None of these discs were ever viewed, burned and tested only, with nero dvd speed, and they all passed at that time. Stupid cheap taiwnaese crap medie. Avoie it at all costs.

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Price: $1 Purchased from: ebay Date purchased: January 2002 Burnt with Pioneer DVR-103 / DVR-A03 at 1x Burning reliability is Poor. PC reliability is Poor. DVD reliability is Poor. Console reliability is Poor. Authoring/Burning comments:ripped with smartripper 2.41
used ifoedit to fix vts sectors
used maestro to make the image
and burned with record now max

Comments posted by Luis from Other, January 20, 2003:
It's very good and cheap. not recording failure. you can crack dvd pre-recorded and record on it perfectly. my clients love it because a pioneer insumer 2002 it's value 12 Eur. and now 1,6 eur. I'ts better than samsung

Price: $2 Date purchased: December 2002 Burnt with Sony DRU-500A at 1x Authoring/Burning comments:Authored with IfoEdit and burned with RecordNow. Works fine on Mustek DVD-V560

Comments posted by Ricardo M. from Other, December 14, 2002:
This media looks like a original TDK one. Sold only in 100 packs.

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Price: $1.6 Purchased from: Portugal Store Date purchased: December 2002 Burnt with Sony DRU-500A at 2x Authoring/Burning comments:I used a SONY DRU-500A with firmware 1.0f and it recorded flawlessly. Every disk burned very well with Nero 5.5.9.17 (authored with DVDMaestro) and played very well. And here in Portugal they are the cheapest media around! Like it a lot!!! Works fine on Mustek DVD-V560Works fine on Nintaus n9901

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