Comments on: Jekyl and Hyde yearhttp://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/
California's Oldest Newspaper - Est. 1851Wed, 21 Jan 2015 14:26:44 -0800hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.1By: cookie65http://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776485
Thu, 07 Nov 2013 02:51:02 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776485Rant #4. The overwhelming majority of those who have signed up have signed for Medicare. The 7 million young health non consumers needed to raise Titanic aren’t buying. Perhaps by the year 3517 we will reach the 7 million.
]]>By: Evelynhttp://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776473
Thu, 07 Nov 2013 02:01:44 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776473Progress!
]]>By: James E.http://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776471
Thu, 07 Nov 2013 01:56:56 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776471Evelyn, I would never say the ladies on this site are wrong.
Sometimes, a tad confused, but never wrong.
]]>By: James E.http://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776467
Thu, 07 Nov 2013 01:45:25 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776467Dee, I see that you agree with me that Obamacare is nothing more than a giant giveaway to the Health Insurance Companies. Why isn’t this in the media? Oh, right, they don’t keep the buggers honest anymore. Well, maybe the MtDemocrat will write an article on the giant giveaway, but don’t hold your breath.
]]>By: Evelynhttp://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776465
Thu, 07 Nov 2013 01:41:50 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776465James: I’m not unsympathetic with your Obamacare fatigue. We’ve been around the block so many times on this that it’s becoming something of a harangue (even though Dee #1 and I are right!!!).
]]>By: James E.http://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776464
Thu, 07 Nov 2013 01:40:35 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776464Dink, I really didn’t want to chat about Rand Paul, the Tea Party Senator from Kentucky. I don’t like to kick someone when he’s down. So, let’s continue kicking the president and Obamacare while they’re down.
]]>By: Dee#1http://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776463
Thu, 07 Nov 2013 01:34:08 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776463So much for competition——The Big Boys Manipulate EVERY Market … While Would Obamacare Be Any Different?

The following exchanges are being widely manipulated by big banks, hedge funds and other players:

Currency
Interest rates
Oil (and see this)
Energy
Gold and silver
Derivatives
Carbon (i.e. “cap and trade”)
Virtually all other commodities
Basically all exchanges
Why do you think Obamacare will be different?

The leverage which huge pots of cash, insider information and high-frequency trading give to the big banks and other big players makes exchanges an easy target.

The big boys play dirty.

And the Obama administration is allegedly exempting the Obamacare exchanges from anti-fraud standards

As the New York Times notes:

Billions could flow from Washington to Wall Street, indeed.
Postscript: True progressives such as Eric Zeusse, Yves Smith and Corrente have long warned that Obamacare is nothing but a giant giveaway to big health insurance companies.

But it is also a new opportunity for Wall Street to extract huge sums by manipulating a new market. ——and Dink, that would be for the consumer to decide not the government. Your faith in government oversight is admirable.

]]>By: Dink Lanehttp://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776462
Thu, 07 Nov 2013 01:31:29 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776462Your right Dee — Selling insurance across state lines would be great for competition…… But….. Do you want AZ insurance laws dictating what CA insurance coverage would be???….. The other thing….. What local lobbyist …. wanted ONLY Anthem-Blue Shield to be available to the residents of GA and NOT any other insurance such as a HMO to compete for customers? Do you think it might have been the Insurance Lobbyist? — OK James…. You win…. I’m done here… On to Rand Paul…
]]>By: James E.http://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776461
Thu, 07 Nov 2013 01:29:57 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776461R.J.. it’s what I do. Guess no one in EDC wants to talk about Rand Paul, the Tea Party Senator from Kentucky. Why would that be?
]]>By: R.j. Carterhttp://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776460
Thu, 07 Nov 2013 01:20:33 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776460James….Congratulations…Your the only guy I know that would get on a blog about Obama-care and ask everyone to change the subject..
]]>By: James E.http://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776459
Thu, 07 Nov 2013 01:01:30 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776459If health insurance companies could sell across state lines, they would quickly transfer their headquarters to the state with no or absolute minimum laws regulating health insurance companies. Then, they could quickly run “wilder.” I’m tired of reading about Obamacare and the president. Could we change the topic to Rand Paul, the Tea Party Senator from Kentucky. Appears he has his knickers in a bunch big time.
]]>By: Dee#1http://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776458
Thu, 07 Nov 2013 00:54:12 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776458Oh,Dink, an open market would be one where the companies could compete across state lines and would allow plans that meet the needs of each individual.consumer not dictated by some government bully.
]]>By: Dee#1http://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776457
Thu, 07 Nov 2013 00:50:54 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776457Dink, the demographic that is needed to make the program be fiscally feasible, young and healthy, is not, at this point, enrolling in Obamacare. So far, only the older, sicker and Medicaid population is the majority enrolled. If this does not rectify itself, the Government will need to have another gazillions bailout. This seems to be a weakness in the program that should have been discussed and corrected before the passage of the bill. Since it wasn’t, we need to aware of it now and start searching for solutions. My own solution is repeal and start the process with real discussion not political attitudes.
]]>By: Evelynhttp://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776455
Thu, 07 Nov 2013 00:24:29 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776455Rant #4 (This space reserved for the next person)
]]>By: Evelynhttp://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776454
Thu, 07 Nov 2013 00:16:29 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776454Rant #3: “The decision to exempt the exchanges brought into being by the ACA from the anti-corruption rules is more telling than Sebelius can possibly realize. It points a finger at the essentially criminal character of the for-profit health care industry in America.”
]]>By: Evelynhttp://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776453
Thu, 07 Nov 2013 00:10:15 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776453Rant #2: “Strategic Move Exempts Health Law From Broader U.S. Statute” – HERE: [T]he Obama administration has ruled that neither the federal insurance exchange nor the federal subsidies paid to insurance companies on behalf of low-income people are “federal health care programs.” The surprise decision . . . exempts subsidized health insurance from a law that bans rebates, kickbacks, bribes and certain other financial arrangements in federal health programs, stripping law enforcement of a powerful tool used to fight fraud in other health care programs, like Medicare.
]]>By: Evelynhttp://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776452
Thu, 07 Nov 2013 00:06:04 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776452Rant #1: “US Government Exempts New Health Exchanges from Anti-Fraud Standards” – HERE
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Wed, 06 Nov 2013 23:38:40 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776451Bulletin: Just released report from Congressional hearing — “In the marketplace, the rates have come in about 16% lower than what the Congressional Budget Office projected those rates to be.”…….. Let me repeat — 16% LOWER…… Now let the anti-Health Care ranting resume….
]]>By: Dink Lanehttp://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776450
Wed, 06 Nov 2013 23:28:13 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776450So what are you saying Dee? That you don’t want the 40% in Kentucky to enroll? ……… Or are you saying that older people who aren’t on Medicare — who need medical coverage — should NOT have health care “access”? …….. Are saying that this is going to cost a “gazillion” dollars….. which the CBO says that it’s “reducing the deficit”…… because the young people haven’t signed up yet….. That’s like saying…. Let’s call off Christmas because 90% of the public haven’t bought their Christmas gifts yet and there are ONLY 48 days left to shop….. It’s not March yet…… Once again Dee, I’m asking………… Why are you fighting SO HARD for the INSURANCE companies?….. Why is it so bad that people have the RIGHT to find different insurance plans????……. I know the companies don’t like competition (GOP always says that it brings prices down) — But why are you on the SIDE of the Insurance companies effort to BLOCK open markets?
]]>By: Dee#1http://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776446
Wed, 06 Nov 2013 22:46:05 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776446So far the important demographic to make Obamacare work is declining to participate.———–An analysis published yesterday points out that the people who have successfully enrolled in plans through various state exchanges tend to be over 50:
Kentucky’s state-run exchange reported that nearly 40% of the estimated 4,631 enrollees in private health plans are older than 55, while 24% of the remaining enrollees are younger than 34;
Michigan-based Priority Health said the average age of new enrollees is 51, up from about 41 for plans offered for the current year;
WellPoint said most of its enrollees in Connecticut were between the ages of 55 and 64; and
Wisconsin-based Arise Health Plan said more than 50% its 150 enrollees are over age 50 (Wall Street Journal, 11/4).
Let’s break this down in Kentucky a little bit. Note that the total number who have signed up in Kentucky is nearly 28,000 people. Out of that number only 4,631 bought private plans while the rest enrolled in Medicaid.
Of those 4,631 who bought private plans, 40% (1,852 of them) were over 55 years of age.
Of the remaining 2,779 who bought private insurance, just 667 were under 35.
This means that of the 27,854 people who enrolled in plans in Kentucky, 2.4% were relatively young and (presumably) healthy. Or put another way, 97.6 percent were over 35. ——This will not sustain the program. Another gazillion dollar is on its way.
]]>By: Dink Lanehttp://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776430
Wed, 06 Nov 2013 20:51:02 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776430Why is the MD fighting so hard to “protect” the INSURANCE companies from having to deal in an OPEN-MARKET ????? ……………1.) “being forced on government-ordered plans”….. Really? Drug companies MUST follow standards…. Auto manufacturers MUST follow standards — NO Standards for HC insurance? …… 2.) “everyone insured through their job is going to face higher health insurance costs”……. Really? Haven’t our COSTS been soaring for the last 10 years??? This year Kaiser Family Foundation said the LOWEST in 10years (4%) — YOU want high rates to continue??……….. 3.) “White House wants to set aside even less money for doctor training”….. Really? Remember a thing called SEQUESTER? Remember that the LEGISLATOR holds the purse-strings???…………. All Obamacare does is OPEN THE DOORS for public access to BUY health care Insurance……… and the MD is against that?
]]>By: Evelynhttp://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776426
Wed, 06 Nov 2013 20:17:57 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776426“OF COURSE Obamacare Exchanges Will Be Manipulated … Like Traders Already Manipulate Exchanges for Commodities, Carbon Credits, Derivatives, and Everything Else” – HERE: The following exchanges are being widely manipulated by big banks, hedge funds and other players:
• Currency
• Interest rates
• Oil
• Energy
• Gold and silver
• Derivatives
• Carbon (i.e. “cap and trade”)
• Virtually all other commodities
• Basically all exchanges —–
Why do you think Obamacare will be different?
]]>By: cookie65http://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776376
Wed, 06 Nov 2013 16:01:55 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776376kgg, speaking of wild claims, have you heard this one? “Let me be exactly clear about what health care reform means to you,” Obama said at one rally in July 2009. “First of all, if you’ve got health insurance, you like your doctors, you like your plan, you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan. Nobody is talking about taking that away from you.”
]]>By: kgghttp://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776375
Wed, 06 Nov 2013 15:57:22 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776375“With some 15 million people being kicked off the health insurance plans they like and being forced on government-ordered plans that will cost them twice as much, the national economic future looks dim. ”
kgg writes: of course, there is no proof of this statement – just wild claims. oh hum. another day, another lie.
]]>By: cookie65http://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776371
Wed, 06 Nov 2013 15:41:00 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776371You know Morris, it is interesting just how much of a useful idiot some people can be. obama and the rest of the leftist/socialist/progressive/communists LIED to your face more times than you can count with your shoes off and then denied what is on video proving it and I am the jackass. Welcome to earth Morris. How was your visit on planet pixie dust?
]]>By: cookie65http://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776369
Wed, 06 Nov 2013 15:31:06 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776369Morris, I realize you and the other lemmings can’t name a single thing leftism creates and/produces, so how about this question instead. Name for me 3 things you can do that the government has not involved itself in, in one form or another.
]]>By: cookie65http://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776366
Wed, 06 Nov 2013 15:19:13 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776366Evelyn, I have mentioned a number of times how the left used pre-exiting conditions to bait the hook for the useful idiots in order to take over healthcare. It is a fact that no such pre-existing condition clause exists in any public sector union insurance plan and the states regulate and license insurers to do business and could have addressed it anytime they chose to. But I came across something yesterday that shows what kind of power state insurance departments can exercise when it benefits the leftists agenda. http://blog.sfgate.com/pender/2013/11/05/blue-shield-gives-80000-policyholders-a-90-day-reprieve-on-cancellations/
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Wed, 06 Nov 2013 15:14:02 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776365Well. Looks like someone had a big ‘ol bowl of Applejackasses for breakfast.
]]>By: cookie65http://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776362
Wed, 06 Nov 2013 15:09:07 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776362Evelyn, did you ever imagine how stupid the dim’s think their base must be? Here is piglosi illustrating how stupid she thinks the obamabots are. http://www.ijreview.com/2013/11/92287-meanwhile-pelosi-says-obamacare-implementation-gone-well/
]]>By: Evelynhttp://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776350
Wed, 06 Nov 2013 14:01:58 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776350IF YOU LIKE YOUR PLAN YOU CAN KEEP IT – HERE
]]>By: cookie65http://www.mtdemocrat.com/opinion/jekyl-and-hyde-year/comment-page-1/#comment-776344
Wed, 06 Nov 2013 13:05:45 +0000http://www.mtdemocrat.com/?p=376099#comment-776344“The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.” — Winston Churchill
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