I'm using a natural oral over the counter with green tea extract and two tons other extracts + Nizoral 2%, + I've been soaking my hair in poison ivy to stimulate blood flow in scalp. I guess my hair is falling out at a lesser rate now, but still I'm not obtaining the results I want... I've been using it for a little over a week now, but my urologist/androgenologist had recommended me two things that he said work very well. They're a bit expensive but I don't think that'll be an issue. He told me to try the German oral drug called pantovigar for a three month period and a hair regrowing shampoo called Renokin. Oh, and my doc said to cut my hair short, that'll help as well...(idk how but he said do it anyway, so I'm army buzzin my hair tomorrow)

**** man I wish I'd stuck to var and never tried that winny bull****

的deas are far more powerful than guns. We don't let our enemies have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?" - General Secretary of The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, Joseph Stalin.

Haven't cycled anything other than var for 4 years, cycle before that was deca. I've been steadily receding since 18 and slowly thinning. So honestly I'm not too sure. I was thinking of doing a cycle anyways and it just so happens a bottle of nizoral has landed on my lap at the same time!

Ok so I used nizoral this morning, nothing to comment on other than my hair felt like **** whilst I was shampooing. I noticed the ingredients include hydrochloric acid! Just checking you guys use this and it's the same, or if you use generics?

Ok so I used nizoral this morning, nothing to comment on other than my hair felt like **** whilst I was shampooing. I noticed the ingredients include hydrochloric acid! Just checking you guys use this and it's the same, or if you use generics?

Did you get the 2% it does tend to dry your hair out. I'd rather have dry hair then no hair.

Ok so I used nizoral this morning, nothing to comment on other than my hair felt like **** whilst I was shampooing. I noticed the ingredients include hydrochloric acid! Just checking you guys use this and it's the same, or if you use generics?

Just wait until you start feeling mild head aches bro. Go with natural organic ways too, don't just depend on Nizoral. Buy yourself a scalp massager it stimulates the blood flow in the scalp, boil nettle or rub it on your head fresh because nothing stimulates blood flow naturally better then nettle plant aka Stinging Nettle (or Urticaria Dioica). Green tea, Biotin... Etc all great supplements. And don't hesitate man Pontogar (Pontovigar) is also a good supplement to keep and regrowing your hair. NIzoral just makes my head feel weird, I don't think I'll be using Nizoral again, I've already ordered a therapeutic hair regrowth shampoo and conditioner called Renokin.

的deas are far more powerful than guns. We don't let our enemies have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?" - General Secretary of The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, Joseph Stalin.

Did you get the 2% it does tend to dry your hair out. I'd rather have dry hair then no hair.

Yeah mate got the 2%. Definitely prefer dry hair over no hair! For now I'll use it twice a week to check it works ok for me and maybe use it more often if alls good. Did you get thickening or just prevention/slow down of loss?

Will do bro, I also am freaked the **** out by hair loss. I don't think I can rock the Vin Diesel look. Lol
But so far so good at a certain moment I was loosing clumps of hair, now it's around 30-100 stands a day (that I see).

的deas are far more powerful than guns. We don't let our enemies have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?" - General Secretary of The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, Joseph Stalin.

You can still get the 2% OTC from an outfit out of Florida, I get next day shipping from them since I'm right down the street I do:

Nizoral shampoo EOD
one application of azelaic acid/minoxidil morning and one application before bed
one application of topical spironolactone mid-day

supposedly AA and spiro are best taken separately. Man it brought down my hair fallout in the shower (after shampoo condition brushing etc) from a pretty big clump (I have med-longer hair, so women tell me this is normal for longer hair) to a mini-clump I can fit inbetween my fingertips. I was not losing anything with no treatment, but now I have stopped any possible fallout and thickened it up big time. that combo works. I've done it with and without either the AA or spiro....but I have been using both since I was on deca and SD in addition to trt. I need to find a good replacement for toco-8 since that was my only oral supp that (supposedly) helps with hair loss.

Yeah, if I could look good shaven I'd have done it ages ago and be done with it! Hope it gets better for you. I probably have around 20 come out each shower. Maybe nizoral will reduce that

20 is excellent btw, esp if you're shampooing EOD only. I get around 20, maybe a bit more each time EOD and I consider that great. You guys do understand that hair DOES fall out EVERY DAY right? Its natural, and if you didn't lose ANY hair you probably have some sort of condition or something. Its like expecting no skin to flake off it "comes back" when its lost in very minor amounts.....its the huge clumps in the shower and hair all over your pillow case, all over the floor etc that should worry you. The rest is normal.

I've been using it e4d but thinking about bumping this up as now I'm having 5-10 hairs come out when showering the following day after use. So I'm excited!

I also shot 400mg of test e and 400mg EQ on Thursday, which makes counting 10ish hairs in this mornings shower even more encouraging!

I sent some info via rep PM. You need to stop counting hairs lol, I go by "size of the clump" at this point....but depends on how long your hair is. The shorter it is the less likely you are going to have a clump of course. My clumps in the wet hair brushing decreased in size greatly with this cocktail though, and the drain has less hairs in it too.