jcv - '... better wake, by far' What is better about it? Size? Shape? Lip? I have not beeen behind a x-1 but i've boarded behind a '05 X-star and the wake seemed identical just not as wide or as big with stock ballast.

T, i didn't mean to imply the x-45 wake is sub-par, far from it. it's a great wake and almost swamps our boat everytime the x-45 on our lake passes. i just meant the 205v hull on the x-1/x-2/x-star is widely considered the best wake ever (and rarely lower than top 3) and many people swear by it. so, it's not that there's anything wrong with the x-45 wake (from all i've seen it's awesome), it's just that the x-1 has such a tremendous reputation. sorry for the misunderstanding; it was a very poor choice of words on my part.

The x-1 is a great boat and has a steeper wake than the x-45. Plus wake to wake the x-1 is not that far but the x-45 wakes are a good distance from each other because the boat is so wide. The x-45 won’t handle like your x-1 because the x-1 is much smaller. The good thing is the interior of the x-45 is much bigger. Now the wake on the x-45 is big and shaped like the xstar. Now the good thing is that you wouldn’t have to weight down the x-45 because the boat is so heavy. That poses another problem, the lift you use might not be rated for the 4,950 lbs of the x-45. If you don’t have a lift can you vehicle pull that out of the water? The x-45 is a sweet boat but she is big. Both boats are good but the x-1 is a wakeboard boat and that is it, while the x-45 is that but at the same time it is a deck/party boat. These are just my thoughts on the two boats.

The X1 could fit inside the X45. Big upgrade but if you are looking for a larger family boat (the beast is rated for 18) it is an awesome boat. I saw it at the boat show it has ton of storage and visually there seems to have been a lot of thought put into the details on the boat. I think my kids could sleep under the seats in the bow of that thing.

i love the wake of my x-1 but its just not big enough to take a bunch of people out on the water with. i would also like to go to the ocean which my little boat cant do, rough water eats the x-1 up as would the salt. i think the monster surf wake will be a blast too.

We have an X-45 for our store boat. Here's my .02. The boat is beautiful in all aspects as far as I can see. Very roomy, super comfy. You can load you and all your friends inside and still have room for beer, and gear. Motor is a little weak, a little doggy out of the hole. Burns alot of fuel since it is so heavy. Cadillac motor. Wake does not clean up till about 25 mph. Big though. Steep and very rampy. Drives alot like a 64 cadillac 4 door with 4 flat tires. Would I ever buy one myself? Probably not. Just way more than I need. However I do enjoy spending time on it since it is so roomy inside.

the only way i would buy one is with the big dog 8.1 motor. byrd, the x-45 is bigger and suprisingly close in price. billy told me that zane wanted a x45 for his new boat but mastercraft wouldnt bite, if he wants one it must be the ultimate party barge. we should ride this week, hopefully the wind lets up

LOL, Zane can cross any wake, and yes it is a party barge. Rodney test drove one and it was nice. Just make sure you do get the big boy power plant. The one we drove had the 350 in it and it was a little doggish. T-Ball and Little League end next week, so after that I will be free any day of the week after 4-ish. I got out on a wakesurfer this past weekend. I was able to let go and ride for a while. I got some pointers from a good friend. Do you want to go this Saturday? Maybe start early morning and then add family around lunch?

yeah festivus, i read both your threads start to finsih and it seemed like the bow x45 pushed you towards the bu, but i like the big bow for several reasons so it should work for me. good luck with your boat, it is damn good looking

Sorry for weighing in late. I am not on this board as much as I used to be. Things I like about my X-45: - Plenty of room and we rarely have less than 10 people in it. - Plenty of storage (mainly for the wretched tube for the kids) - Gas tank is so big you can fill up of the lake everytime - Enormous wake...you will not be disappointed - Lots of power with the 8.1L - Seats are heavy-duty and don't look like they will breakdown or come unsewn - Plenty of room up front for those that want to get some sun. - All the billet aluminum looks very classy - Ladder up front comes in more handy than you would think. - Handles incredible in rough water. We ski at a big lake and were headed back into a stiff wind with white caps coming at us at about 30mph and you couldn't even feel it. Our friends had to get behind us in their 02 X-Star(today's X-1) to go faster than 20mph

Things I don't like: - Burns about 8gph - Fly-by-wire throttle has some issues with over-revving or the engine just dies (I assume this is a computer issue that will be fixed at some point.

That's about the size of it. Its the third MC I have owned and by far the best. If you have the dough go for it. One more thing, I have a custom 3-axle trailer and would highly recommend going that way. It tows great. Make certain the guides on the trailer are long enough (even if you are wider than the 102" that are allowed.)I learned that the hard way with a torn decal.