Hah. Wasn't really ment that way .... both of those hops have a sharp? Flavor ... and to me lack ... uh.... middle and low end? Taste .... quess you can tell I am used to stuff like EKG .....the oak will "fill in" that flavor profile my taste buds are looking for ....Really didn't mean to be a ****

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The first time I had AB I was with a buddy that raved about the stuff ... I ordered a pint .... first reaction was "wow"...... then he got mad at me when I said that there was something missing .... I said that I really liked the grain bill .... and that it was really cool seeing an America brewery that didn't fall into the misconception of "malty = sweet".... ....

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But its missing some depth of flavor in the hop profile ..... I would leave the "cat piss and pine tar" hops alone.... but add a 5 minute addition of fuggles .. say an ounce in a 5 gallon batch..... I thought he was going to punch me ....

In wine there is wisdom.In beer there is freedom.In water there is bacteria.

Five comments over eleven minutes. Sorta tied together, but each could stand alone. Sorta rambling. I'd like to crawl inside Ceannt's head for a little while just to see what is rolling around. I bet it's a fun place.

Five comments over eleven minutes. Sorta tied together, but each could stand alone. Sorta rambling. I'd like to crawl inside Ceannt's head for a little while just to see what is rolling around. I bet it's a fun place.

Hah..... you would just hurt yourself .......

In wine there is wisdom.In beer there is freedom.In water there is bacteria.

Five comments over eleven minutes. Sorta tied together, but each could stand alone. Sorta rambling. I'd like to crawl inside Ceannt's head for a little while just to see what is rolling around. I bet it's a fun place.