I am glad they are doing what they can to save the wondrous Pandani Shelf and Mt Anne area.

I wonder where they are getting the water from. Perhaps that body of water just below the main few shelfs.

Overlandman wrote:From ABCCoulsons Boeing 737 is being used, & Air Tractors sucking up water from Lake Pedder.

It is perhaps some small consolation to the many that mourn the drowning of the real Lake Pedder that the vast waters of the Lake Pedder impoundment may in some way help protect surrounding World Heritage wilderness.

The cut off low about to descend on Tassie went through us (South West WA) last night & today. Very vigorous summer system, felt like an ill wind. We got quite a bit of rain out of it, but would have gladly sent that south eastward.

Glad to see that fires around Mt Eliza appear to have died down. However very concerned about rapid spread of fires around Eastern Arthur’s, west of Mt Field West and Great Pine Tier. Lots of new Sentinel hotspots today.https://sentinel.ga.gov.au/#/

Ahhhh, that's part of the Riveaux/Arve/Arthur Plaiins complex. Looks like it's about to take Piguenit and Hopetoun and trying for Bobs, with another front heading for Hartz. Blimey that thing has really taken off.So many fronts on that thing that the TFS are labelliing "uncontrollable".

Moores Valley and Dolphin ridge fires look like they may join up as well.

Is my understanding correct... Parks list the South Coats track as still open however the Huon Highway is closed to all south bound traffic. Are walkers potentially being flown into melaleuca but road transport is unable to go down to pick them up? Or at least vehicles are driving through areas affected by fire?

None of which can be supported by facts. I've seen people saying that if cattle grazing hadn't been stopped (in the South West??) this wouldn't have happened, that natural forests are a hazard (actually,monoculture plantations are the biggest problem), that we should be raking the forest floor to remove fuel (yes, this one turned up here), all sorts of rubbish.Then there's the old line about "the bush burns and it will all regrow in no time". But fires like this are not normal, the alpine and Gondwanan vegetation communities are not fire-adapted, dry lightning strikes in this quantity are unheard of in Tassie . . .

We need to get the real story out, but it seems most of the MSM is ignoring it.

You get used to that in Tassie - lots of ill-informed opinions, lots of armchair experts, expectations of "hard and fast extinguishing of fires' in wild areas, folks that think retardants work well in forest, folks that think water bombing is the panacea for all the problems....... all part of the ongoing education process

None of the opinions are really going to matter as the impacts of climate change ramp up. We are seeing this now... no amount of hazard reduction or suppression activities will solve the problem. Hazard reduction only works on a small range of fires and suppression only works on small fires.

Any mainlanders wondering what it's like - I'm on the eastern side of Frederick Henry Bay (that's the one south of the airport). I can't see further than the headland a bit over 1km away due to the smoke being blown over from the Huon fires. The smell is getting stronger, and it's not just the smell of smoke, you can smell ash and burnt vegetation as well. I'm going to need a filter to breathe through if it stays like this for much longer. Or maybe just dig my O2 deco bottle and reg out of the shed and give the lungs a nice healthy dose. Or both.We had a little rain with the electrical storm overnight (started about 2am) and a gentle shower has just started. But that's here. This morning BoM was not reporting any of that overnight rain going where it's needed, and the forecasts reckon this little break is temporary - it's business as usual tomorrow.

And the fire that started recently near Murdunna is, like those up near Blessington, suspected arson.

The LIST fire history of the past 5 years, is extremely light on for the current fire locations.It therefore appears to me that fuel reduction burns in the current fire locations has not been occuring to any significant extent.

I dare say it wouldn’t be very feasible to get in and do fuel reduction burns in some of these remote areas. Also I believe a lot of the fires (not these ones) that end up starting and getting away are from fuel reduction burns themselves jumping containment lines.

You guys are pretty amazing at recognising the landscapes here. Is that the Needles on the right and Tim Shea on the left? The Sentinels and FIRMS maps show hotspots there that have crossed the Gordon River Road.

Paul wrote:The LIST fire history of the past 5 years, is extremely light on for the current fire locations.It therefore appears to me that fuel reduction burns in the current fire locations has not been occuring to any significant extent.

Paul.

There were a few if you drill in with other layers. But true, not many. Similarly some current fires have burnt to the boundary of places that have, a few, not many.

"The guides are all complaining there's mobile reception and hot showers," Godfrey laughs.

Paul wrote:The LIST fire history of the past 5 years, is extremely light on for the current fire locations.It therefore appears to me that fuel reduction burns in the current fire locations has not been occuring to any significant extent.

Paul.

Here is a case where a fuel reduction burn from 2017/2018 was not enough to pull up a wildfire

You certainly can, but in the last couple of days I think LISTMAP has been under quite a heavy load so that may be the reason layers are not showing up - I have noted it failing with bookmarks on a few occasions lately. Also if you are 'logged in" then the recipient of the bookmark will only see public layers (or those they have permissions to see)