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The new tag line is taken from a monster thread over at Shakesville, where Liss has pissed off a bunch of totally awesum gamer dudez who don’t like teh fat chix. A Sanity Watchers warning does apply there, though the thread is also fucking hilarious, so I recommend it for those who aren’t feeling especially fragile.

Anyway, my very favorite comment has to be “lol your fat.” That’s all. I assume the totally awesum gamer dude meant to say, “I am laughing out loud because you’re fat,” but they don’t seem to teach grammar in totally awesum gamer dude skool. So I prefer to take it as an imperative. Lol your fat, kiddies. Just go on and lol it ’til the cows come home.

156 thoughts on “lol your fat”

What’s weird is that the gamerz (on their own site) really seem to believe that it’s the *title* that is being objected to. That it is the use of the word “fat” that’s at issue, and that the fat bloggers want the name to be changed. Talk about missing the point entirely. I’m not sure I have big objections to it, but it’s really not something I’d be playing (seems more suited to a flash type game, but what do I know besides Ratchet and Clank, or Jak and Daxter, you know?) but I’m not stupid enough to think it’s the word “fat” in the title that people find objectionable. Jeez.

I’m with Julia – I’ll be loling my fat for a while. Loling my fat sounds actually like quite a pleasant thing to do. Like maybe a combination of loving it and petting it? What a shame the lovely image in my mind isn’t quite what was intended by the comment.

The sad thing is that these trolls are real people. See, a really, really good friend of mine (best friend, actually), is one of these gamers, and he finds the game hilarious. I’ve tried to explain to him why it’s offensive to me, HIS FAT FRIEND, but a) I’m not very good at forming arguments when I’m angry and b) he IS, after all, a 19 year-old boy–what am I supposed to expect? Le sigh.

Forgot to add: My hubbo occasionally plays Halo online with a friend of his. They do a sort of capture-the-flag team game. It’s on Xbox 360 and there’s an option for “chatter.” They always turn off their mics and mute the others’ chatter–I ask to hear it but they tell me it’ll just piss me off. All kinds of gamer dude types saying racist, sexist and–I’d bet–generally hilarious (in MY way, not their way) things. O to be a fly on the wall if that chatter is an option while playing Fat Princess with some of these trolls.

I don’t really see the need to panic. This game will most likely fail for 2 reasons:

1. It’s not a big name pre-established game series.

2. It’s made to look cutesy, and any gamer knows, that guys simply don’t buy games that are cutesy. Or they do, but then being insecure bash the game so they can still convince themselves they’re macho.

3. It’s an idiotic game concept. I’m not sure if they game would even be playable, amongst other issues regarding it. It’s simply pandering to the lowest denominator of gamer out there. Surely, someone who even looks at that game will be seen by other gamers as a joke. Not only cause people typically look down on gamers, females too, for liking cute games. Also because it’s premise is absolutely infantile. You can find games with more premise to them online.

I just don’t like it when some idiot decides, “Eh duhhh a game making fun of fat chicks would be fun”, and then it becomes a bash the game industry thing.

This also reminds me, of how Paul banned me from his forums at Big Fat Blog, because I had the audacity to suggest to him in regards to a Japanese game where you had a fat girl diet, that Japan is a different culture and they tackle issues in different ways than we might. Most cultures outside the US, are very direct in dealing with their issues, in a way most of us would find offensive.

It’s simply overreacting, to assume the entire game industry is horrible, because some loser in a no-name game development company comes out with idiotic crap.

I also would like someone to explain to me, where Paul thinks he can banish people from his website, for simply providing another view of things. Sure it’s easy to say, “Well they’re sizeist, and evil evil people!” It’s more difficult to look at the other sides of the situation, and consider things like other worldviews. Maybe someone who knows Paul could pass along the idea to him, that you have to ban someone from your website for more of a reason, than not willing to be a follower.

Jackie, sorry the bannination hurt your feelings, but ultimately, it’s HIS BLOG, and he can ban you for any, or in fact no reason at all. ‘Cause it’s a blog. And free speech just don’t apply on no blogs.

Bottom line, it’s his call. And, I don’t think anyone here’s going to suggest any kind of change to him, either. Read a few posts back for a perspective on blog moderation.

I just don’t like it when some idiot decides, “Eh duhhh a game making fun of fat chicks would be fun”, and then it becomes a bash the game industry thing.

Obviously, something is wrong with the gaming community if the only concepts that can be dreamed up is crap like Fat Princess.

I’m sure high class games like Grand Theft Auto give the gaming community a good name though. There’s nothing like beating women and killing random people for fun!

I also would like someone to explain to me, where Paul thinks he can banish people from his website, for simply providing another view of things. Sure it’s easy to say, “Well they’re sizeist, and evil evil people!” It’s more difficult to look at the other sides of the situation, and consider things like other worldviews. Maybe someone who knows Paul could pass along the idea to him, that you have to ban someone from your website for more of a reason, than not willing to be a follower.

Because it’s his website? It’s a blog dedicated to fat acceptance, not other “viewpoints.” Obviously, you must have said more than you are alluding to for banning to take place.

That thread is amusing. As Gandhi did not say, but might have had he met the trolls on that thread, “First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they laugh at you some more. Then you say something so ignorant that they decide you’re your own best mockery, and move on to the other things that comprise their interesting, fulfilling lives.”

I saw your tag line and I was like, “Where have I heard that before?” And then I started to have nightmarish flashbacks from the numerous threads on Fat Princess and my head exploded. Oh THAT’S where it’s from!

I have gotten absolutely nothing done since yesterday afternoon because of that thread. JR, the trolls are repetitive, but the smackdowns keep getting more fabulous. I love them all, but my favorite has to be “Sir, you are too late for the jellied eels. Here we have only pie.”

*Sigh* These guys, Farkers and gamers and Anonymous, they all have the same reaction to being called out. Say they’re sexist, they come out with the most outrageously sexist things they can think of, because proving the evil feminists wrong is somehow less satisfying than proving them right.

Reminds me of when I was a kid, about four or five, and very contrary and strong-willed and determined to be taken seriously at all times. I asked my mum for something (can’t even remember what), but forgot to say please. Mum, of course: “What do you say when you want something?” But I was so outraged at being called out, and took it as such an insult, that instead of just correcting my mistake, I got even ruder, threw a tantrum and got told off instead of getting what I wanted. I knew I was only hurting myself, but at the time, the only thing in my mind was, “She thinks I’m not polite enough? I’ll show her what I’m like when I’m not being polite!”

Of course, I’m no longer five, and I grew out of it. Apparently a lot of people don’t.

I can’t be too angry with the gaming industry, since they brought me the most beautiful trailer for Fatal Frame 4 this morning, but I wish they’d stop fawning over the high-strung fanboys always ready to become Internet Tough Guys whenever someone is less than totally impressed by their favourite hobby.

I just don’t like it when some idiot decides, “Eh duhhh a game making fun of fat chicks would be fun”, and then it becomes a bash the game industry thing.

And I don’t like it when people make strawman arguments on my blog. Not a soul over there is bashing the game industry.

Also, Paul has the right to ban anyone he likes from his blog. Fillyjonk, Sweet Machine and I have the right to ban anyone we like from this blog. No one owes you an explanation, much less a forum to express your views. If you want to start a discussion about things that are beyond the scope of fat acceptance sites, then you need to start your own blog.

I have to disagree with Jackie about the game itself being a failure. I actually think the gaming mechanic of Fat Princess sounds really fun. Capture the flag where the other team is constantly doing things to make your flag harder to capture sounds pretty interesting to me. The IDEA is actually pretty good.

The whole “hey lets make her a fat chick! And then you Can feeeeed her LOLZ” idea is what sucks.

I do not think this game will be a failure. Gaming sites are excited about it. Hell, I wish it wasn’t so blatantly offensive so I could play it!

Shinobi, yeah, as Holly said, there would be plenty of ways to use the same concept, which is actually clever, without the fat hate. The “flag” could be any object that the opposing team keeps adding weight to, and the game would probably be fun. But it’s not so fun when a woman is the object.

Thanks for letting me know you loled, NaamahDarling. :) Also, I am so delighted and appalled by that thread on Shakesville. A thread where trolls and Shakers are let loose to spew all over each other in a free-for-all doesn’t happen every day—and shouldn’t—but that was something to watch. It had/has everything, including a lot of extreme hatred and unpleasantness and stupidity from The Others which was met—well-met, I might add—with wit, verbal violence, and further suitable unpleasantness. I think it was the playground of the Internet’s id, and for so many Shakers, it was their finest hour. (I mean that in a good, not snarky, way.)

I read the thread even though I have been feeling fragile, thinking my teaspoon necklace (which I’m wearing today) would protect me. I finally had to give up 2/3 of the way down because I was feeling guilty about people coming into my office and asking me things about my own article that I couldn’t answer because I haven’t done any work yet, but OMG, that was so cleansing. I mean, quite aside from the fact that I snerked out loud several times, I feel like I had a sinus infection and then ate a big chunk of wasabi.

I can’t read the thread anymore, as it always crashes my browser; So I must read it at home which is sad. It’s been a really good hobby at work; instead of you know, actually working because who wants to do that anyway?

Unless someone can tell me how the limit disqus to only like the new comments. That would rock hardcore.

I would like to say: I’m thoroughly impressed with the wit and mental prowess of Shakers with their uncanny ability to have me lolling all day and most of the night. I’ve gotten odd looks here at work, some of which have garnered only a snort of laughter.

I think I’m going to try and make some pathetic anger bread. I don’t know what it would have in it though. Any ideas? How do you evoke pitiableness and anger in food form? What foods say “pathetic anger”? I’m just drawing a blank.

Liss: I think this game reflects and thus promotes sexism and fatphobia, and also that it is stupid.
Trolls: OMG u spent so much time on talking about a game IT’S JUST A GAME get alife
(Trolls continue x1000)
Shakers: Oh hey, it’s just a blog post. Who, I ask you, really needs to get a life?

I could barely sit at my desk yesterday and when I got home I ignored my husband for another 2 hours reading the comments. I managed to get a few in but seriously, I want to be Carolyn and Helen and Sarah from Chicago and PD when I grow up…(btw, I’m 37).

Don’t forget CE, Faith! I think Carolyn made me crack up the mostest, though. Also whoever said “not baby-flavored donuts. Baby donuts. Made from babies.” Kinda made me sad that my email address fucks up my own joke, though.

But then I got kind of overwhelmed that baby donuts is my joke and now it’s so big. Just like zombie Jonathan Swift deserves to be. (And loud gay sex, and all the other Internet Traditions spawned in that comments thread!)

If any of you guys experience a larger-than-normal influx of trolls, it’s probably because all of the chan.org websites, like 4chan and 7chan, are down having been attacked by a DDOS (have been down a few days now, I understand).

These are the places that “Anonymous” likes to hang around in. You know, the guys that protest Scientology and troll as a lifestyle. Usually, when one chan site goes down, they all congregate at another one, so the inbreeding and back-biting and trolling and hate-speech stays where it belongs, but this DDOS is targetting ALL of the chan sites, one after another.

The result is… lots of really pissed off trolls with nowhere to go on the internets but in everyone else’s communities.

I have to say, I loved the suggestion on that thread that Pathetic Anger Bread should include hot and dry ingredients, i.e. those once thought to cause an imbalance of choler. But that’s the history of science major in me.

I think Pathetic Anger Bread needs to be cooked until it is at least a little burnt. Burned food always seems just a tad more pathetic to me, maybe that has something to do with me being raised on it. But whatever.

I hate to admit this, but when I read this over on yon blog, I was so confused. I guess sometimes stupid passes me by and then makes ME feel stupid! I, too, thought that maybe they meant lol AT your fat – it never occurred to me that it was meant to be “you’re” fat… sometimes being a smarty does have its benefits! I still haven’t finished the comments. Troll posts usually do a number on me, but this one was great.

So parts of what I read were amazing and hilarious, but I actually had a helpful lightbulb moment after reading this exchange (which I know is just another phrasing of something I’ve read dozens of times, here and elsewhere, but I didn’t really get until know):

I[f] you willingly abuse your body or health, you shouldn’t be surprised if someone speaks out against it.

Translation: “How dare you think your body is your own!!!! Who do you think you are, a MAN?!”

i had the best time reading that thread last night/this morning. and there was so much talk of baby donuts and pathetic anger bread with troll sauce and milkshakes…

that i make my (clearly nonexistent b/c i’m omgz teh fatz) hubby bring me home a milkshake when he got off work at 4am! (cuz i’m obeeeees and all i do is eat all the time) i lol’ed the xtra fat caused by milkshake consumption all day long today. :D

Like all San-X company characters, he’s got a back story. He’s a bread roll who got burnt in the oven and now no one will buy him, making him sad and, yes, a little angry. Apparently he tries to masquerade as non-burnt bread by dusting himself with flour and elbowing out the better bakery products. So the story goes. ;-)

“I, too, thought that maybe they meant lol AT your fat – it never occurred to me that it was meant to be “you’re” fat… sometimes being a smarty does have its benefits!”

Isn’t “your” synonymous with “you’re” online? Obviously no one bothers to write L.O.L. though that would be accurate. I always use “your up” without thinking twice about it in games.

English is such an ugly and bloated language. It’s sad when you have to be an expert at grammar to have a remote chance at speaking it correctly. I’ve tried explaining the difference between whomever and whoever to non-native speakers and they just stare at me with a deer in the headlights look.

Epic troll thread, though I think it’s starting to be selectively censored now.

It’s completely understandable confusion if English is not your first language, but if it *is*, you were almost certainly drilled repeatedly on your/you’re in elementary school. It’s not an expert-level grammar issue.

Unlike, say, discreet/discrete, a pet peeve of mine, but most people honestly have no idea they are two different words. That’s not something that comes up in your average education.

Unlike, say, discreet/discrete, a pet peeve of mine, but most people honestly have no idea they are two different words. That’s not something that comes up in your average education.

::sigh:: Or, like me, you know perfectly well they’re different words but have a mental block for remembering which is which. On the bright side, I have gotten real good at coming up with synonyms for them. (umm, sorry to disrail).

Unlike, say, discreet/discrete, a pet peeve of mine, but most people honestly have no idea they are two different words.

Yeah, ditto compliment/complement. It grates on me, but it’s not necessarily a distinction that should be common knowledge if you graduated from elementary school. Your/you’re, however, really should be. And unlike the other homophones mentioned here, using the wrong one of those can really trip the reader up. If I read something like, “Afraid of being found out, they tried to be discrete” or “The color of the shirt really complimented her eyes,” I notice the error but have no trouble understanding the author’s intention. When I read “lol your fat” or “your up,” I actually have to stop and think about what the hell the author is trying to say.

I agree that the internet and being comprehensible (mostly) doesn’t make bad grammar okay. And it totally hurts my eyes/brain as much as the rest of you. But now that I have a wonderful and very smart boyfriend who nonetheless can’t seem to keep even the most basic homophones straight, I’ve become more tolerant.

Total win! I JUST finished the comments over there (though I’m sure they are still coming), and came back here to see this. Totally made my night, because in all honesty, I had a moment of feeling pretty shitty about myself after some of those comments. But, as always SP saves my sanity! Thanks, y’all!

Could we also please have a Pathetic Anger Bread plushie? With a frowning mouth, little burnt patches and some flame for hair? Then we could make lol macros like “Pathetic Anger Bread does not aprove of your fat”.
(damn and it’s three a.m. here…)

A Sarah & Lynne, I am too intimidated to head over, also. I have commented a total of maybe 3 times in the very long time I’ve been reading there. It took me forever to comment here, too. I suspect that, like here, I will be NOT be laughed at, made fun of, or made to feel stupid. I read a lot of blogs, and SP and Shakesville are, by far, my favorites. And Jorge Garcia’s blog, too, because I have a little crush on him. ;-)

As both a gamer and a fat chick do the “gamer dudes” posting on said website not realize that the world’s general disgusting stereotype of THEM is indeed acne riddled fatass sitting alone in momma’s basement with carpal tunnel wrist guards on both wrists chugging down cases of red bull? I mean I get it from both sides, being fat and being a gamer, and an adult. I get to escape it a little because I live with my husband and have kids. But you know then I must be neglecting them for all that gaming I do. But I digress.

Granted the crop that Lis is likely pulling in seems to be the kind that are also in general misogynists the “hur hur hur ur a girl!” ones who like to call you sweet heart and honey on vent when they hear your voice for the first time.

It just seems to me that gamers in general would be a bit more sensitive to fat stereotyping and misrepresentation in media as they are generally stereotyped to be so themselves.

Hey everyone! I discovered this blog through another blog that I’d linked to from another blog…you know the drill. I really should be getting to my weekend chores but the Shakesville thread is teh funny. I noticed right on cue, the kewl dudez were trotting out the “OMG being fat so so unhealthy” canard. Let me get this straight: Shallow sexist pigs are worried about women’s health all of a sudden. These same jerks who openly advocate women sticking sacks of plastic goo in their chests, for example. Or don’t really give a shit if you are a size 2 because you smoke like a chimney, snort meth, or throw up every meal so long as you look hawt. Yeah, those guys. They’re just concerned about our health.

I am way late to the party here, but I just wanted to say that once my dad signed an e-mail LOL, Dad… which puzzled me as there was nothing funny in it. The next time I talked to him on the phone I asked why he did that, and he said, “Oh that’s internet slang for Lots of Love.” I lol’d. Now I tend to substitute that in my head, and I have to say, there’s Lots of Love Your Fat attitude around here!

I love so much that almost any conversation in any decent part of the internet can be referenced back to an xkcd. Someday they’ll write an xkcd about how the entire internet runs on xkcds, and then the universe will truly implode.

Ah, I love it when the kids leave the Barrens chat channel long enough to try interacting like real people. Suddenly all their supposed “wit” is exposed for the nuggets of dog shit that it really is. Gamer males make me ashamed to be a Tauren.