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Skipper i was reading through some letters that Taylor wrote me when he owned the Snatcher dog and he told me that Tupps as you call him had approached him about using Snatcher on his Tyler bitch .Howevor he refused him the service because he was going keep only one pup himself and sell the rest Taylor didnt want others to have offspring of Snatcher , so thats the reason they bred Brody to Tyler

Roxy was a good good bitch who these guys really rated and for 20 mins smashed beannie3 up bad ,but when b3 hit her spot which was in the mouth roxy could only take so much of that she scratched twice after that then stood her corner .but to tell the truth dont think many dogs could have taken that punishment b3 was a proper mentalist .would love a kennel full of staffs like her ..

Lol i remember a match between one of these so called cur psycho bred dogs that beat one bred from your stuff Springview. So by the looks of things Psycho bred stuff lasted better than the stuff you bred. I think you were part owner of Roxy maybe wrong so dont quote me on it. If i remmeber correct Beanie III flew across on her scratches think Roxy refused her courtesy. Not taking anything away from Roxy she last over the hour mark......While we talking about mongrels did you have something todo with ex gr ch bruno, seems strange when someone is willing to slag off lines of dogs eg Psycho stuff that you put your name to a mongrel...funny world we live in. Bruno was a good dog but went once to much and met Hagar....Anyway i like reading your posts Springview there is some sense amongst the trival stuff.

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roxy didnt refuse her courtesy she just refused to scratch in the match ,thats why she lost ??

As usual people that have no knowledge of the past see fit ti post threads with no truth whatsover , first what dog yopur talking about being from my Wolf dog has me baffled that some one has a grandaughter or great grand daughter of a dog i owne whats that got to do with myself , i never bred or sold them the pup and have no knowledge of the person or the dog , so thats you corrected . The dog you gave that was a brother to Tyra was given to a young boy as a pet and lived to old age as a family pet giving many years of pleasure for which both i and the boy thank you . As for the bitch that lost to Beanie three or four or five then once again your wrong , this bitch had nothing at all to do with me and this was common knowledge , not one hair on the dog was owned by me and both the bitches were sahgite in fact i told the owner of the losing bitch to pick her up at ten mins and cull her so whoevor you are your wrong . The GRCH Bruno was a great match dog he won seven lost one game to a great dog CH Hagar but he was a mongrel thats why i never bred him , kinda backs up what i say about crossbed dogs , incidently both parents to Bruno were very game dogs unlike those Blue dogs another point Saab a CH Phycho dog was beaten by Bruno when Bruno came up near three pounds . As for the bitch from Limey kennels the reason i took her was this the bitch had been two dogged and was not match quality , i saw the bitch still living in the pit six months later in a foot of faces totally devoid of hair and her body full of poisening a friend who was with me took her as he felt sorry for her , we spoke with the Welsman who was there when she was rolled and later with Goldeye . When the bitch was healed she was rolled with a good Nelis bitch that id won a match with this roll in fron of several well known dogmen lasted around thirty mins with the bitch being on the bottom all the way she made a great stumbling scratch . When she came in heat we bred her to Popeye and in thios litter were CH Bouncer who won three the last with a broken front leg of the bottom , the Breaker dog who won three all in short order over winning dogs , he was later culled as he was a man biter , the CH Blackshine bitch who won her last in over two hours aged six going uphill and Slug who lost two game one of these to her half sister Tumble out of Popeye , Whilst owned by Limeys they bred her to Nelis (rom) and she had one male pup Minstral i bought this dog and won two matches giving weight into winning dogs , he was later confiscated along with Popeye in a raid and put down . The Minstral dog was bred to only two bitches in the first litter he produced CH Josie who won two for myself then went to Ireland and won one and lost one game for the Prizefighter the other was the CH Oneye dog he beat a two time winner in his first then a one time winner Sledge in his secon and in his third a four time winner College Boys CH Duch so id say the fact we took the bitch shows what a intelligent move it was , when Dirty Harry and Axesmith from Limey kennels came to visit with me i had CH Bouncer CH Blackshine , Minstral and several others out of the bitch you talk about all were open to match so yes we did get the bitch and what a wise move it was . As for the Blue dogs many are super looking dogs and if someone wants to keep them fine but dont tell me they are staffords as they are not , they are also not gamebred and every single one has dogs behind them that quit , thats just facts its nothing to do with me they are bred that way and i wish everyone who owns one the best , butplease dont try to tell me dogs i saw quit were game . If you have genuine questions i will gladly answer them what i tell you may or not please you but it will be facts not heresay or bullshit told by others unlike most i matched dogs and win or lose great dogs or curs i tell it like it is . Last but not least anything i talk about is from the past and is just histery from the past i feel could be of intrest to students of these breeds take care and keep scratchin

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out and out lie you told owner of the losing bitch to pick her up at ten minutes and cull her ,know you are making things up that is a damm lie and you know it .shame you gotta be so arrogant yours and mr tupps bitch was beaten by a better dog you just cant admit it ..all this calling the pscyho line shite etc is exactly how this match between roxy and beannie 3 come about in the first place and you was proven wrong live with it ...

.............as for the Beanie female you said was shit SV,shame on you. Was there a better stafford female of that era or since ? I doubt it.
Don't be a hypocrite & say you would give respect to those dogs who were still doing what they were bred for & then put down a female who was a good "stafford".

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Beannie 3 was a awesome staff for sure dont listen to mr know it all he is a bitter bitter old man , she has also thrown good dogs ..

I forgot your remark FINITO about Roxy being a good game stafford well you were not there you did not see the bitch quit on all four feet refusing to run a curtesy so dont talk about things you have no knowledge about like Roxy you never saw CH Mitsi , CH Molly , CH Jess , CH Jessie , CH Squaw or GRCH Brindy or CH Kim in fact you never saw any of these dogs so how would you know what constitutes a good stafford bitch as youve never matched one yourself have you

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yes but i have and i was there and i will say she was a good stafford bitch , and i have matched lots of dogs beating the likes of limey kennels and doctor death . you have really pissed me off saying beannie 3 was rubbish wtf are you talking about you moron . i,ll tell you what mouth almighty i will challenge you know on here get one of your staffs from your ultimate gamebred were fucking hard red strain lines and come and meet me again with my pscyho shite a son of beannie 3 in fact love to shut you up again , lol what the fuck am i on about shut you up that would be a job for tom cruise mission impossible ....

yes but i have and i was there and i will say she was a good stafford bitch , and i have matched lots of dogs beating the likes of limey kennels and doctor death . you have really pissed me off saying beannie 3 was rubbish wtf are you talking about you moron . i,ll tell you what mouth almighty i will challenge you know on here get one of your staffs from your ultimate gamebred were fucking hard red strain lines and come and meet me again with my pscyho shite a son of beannie 3 in fact love to shut you up again , lol what the fuck am i on about shut you up that would be a job for tom cruise mission impossible ....

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Normally I would have deleted the above post, but OxStaf has all the reasons to be upset based on JT´s previous posts. OxStaf is a calm man,he usually does not get upset! JT is obviously a talent at pissing people off with his bullshit.

Normally I would have deleted the above post, but OxStaf has all the reasons to be upset based on JT´s previous posts. OxStaf is a calm man,he usually does not get upset! JT is obviously a talent at pissing people off with his bullshit. [/QUOT
ha 10 mins after i wrote it tried to edit/delete it but couldnt find how to do it ..

First its my OPINION that neither Beanie or Roxy were great bitches , secondly you never matched anything into myself and the first time i set eyes on Roxy was the morning of the show , the bitch wasnt owned by me had she been then she wouldnt have been matched . As for you doing it again thats never going to happen and has never happened , as for staffords i long ago ceased to keep them nearly twenty years , this i did because they were inferior to Pitbulls , but hey if you still keep them fair play to you . I do wonder how im banned yet your allowed to issue challenges in public ? kinda stinks of hypocrisy or collusion or perhaps some of us have many names , howevor i have better things to do than explain myself to you , keep scratchin but dont forget your dogs have false pedigrees have many curs behind them are crossbred with pitbull , bull mastiff and wheaten and Bull terrier in them thats a FACT , last but not least i got dogshit to clean up its more appealing , peace out !!!!!!

First its my OPINION that neither Beanie or Roxy were great bitches , secondly you never matched anything into myself and the first time i set eyes on Roxy was the morning of the show , the bitch wasnt owned by me had she been then she wouldnt have been matched . As for you doing it again thats never going to happen and has never happened , as for staffords i long ago ceased to keep them nearly twenty years , this i did because they were inferior to Pitbulls , but hey if you still keep them fair play to you . I do wonder how im banned yet your allowed to issue challenges in public ? kinda stinks of hypocrisy or collusion or perhaps some of us have many names , howevor i have better things to do than explain myself to you , keep scratchin but dont forget your dogs have false pedigrees have many curs behind them are crossbred with pitbull , bull mastiff and wheaten and Bull terrier in them thats a FACT , last but not least i got dogshit to clean up its more appealing , peace out !!!!!!

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shut up you stupid old man .. put up or shut up you pathetic has been ha peace out you twat its not dogshit you gotta clean up its bullshit ...

yes but i have and i was there and i will say she was a good stafford bitch , and i have matched lots of dogs beating the likes of limey kennels and doctor death . you have really pissed me off saying beannie 3 was rubbish wtf are you talking about you moron . i,ll tell you what mouth almighty i will challenge you know on here get one of your staffs from your ultimate gamebred were fucking hard red strain lines and come and meet me again with my pscyho shite a son of beannie 3 in fact love to shut you up again , lol what the fuck am i on about shut you up that would be a job for tom cruise mission impossible ....

I find it strange how you allow post that contravene the very rules you asked myself to read ? You as a moderator should understand these message boards are obviously viewed by others not understanding of what we want from a dog and i try to talk about subjects from a historical point with no relevance to todays activities other than the dogs mentioned might be behind some of todays dogs . Its obvious this board can be accessed by the humane society or those against these dogs with the tecnology today anything is possibble . I do ask myself why someone would wish to issue threats or challenges to do something very illeggal on a public board or even on a PM on such a board ? Im also told that you as moderators are able to read PMs sent by subscribers , something that stinks of big brother , then again the person who told me this could be wrong . I find it strange how someone is allowed to place messages supposedly from myself when even Ray Charles could see the name was changed but this went unchallenged and was allowed to appear , even when it spoke of FEDS something we dont have in Lancashire . The challenges and threats i find ridiculous and insulting why would anyone wish to do anything illegall with someone who announces to the whole world they are involved in breaking the law then invite another to take part on a public forum ? I would no sooner do anything with such people if i still owned dogs than i would accept a invitation of Bertie Smalls to rob a bank . I do know that when Tups showed his bitch Roxy that the show was nothing to do with myself not one hair on the bitches back was owned by myself and i had not one penny on the bitch , howevor the match was reported in the magazines as Springviews Roxy which was bullshit and shows the understanding of those who reported the show . I was at that time targeted by the RSPCA and Police and under a bann from owning a dog so the publicity did me no favours and resulted in a visit from the RSPCA and Police to myself and Bulldog Hill my partner , i remember the next day everyone in Europe knew that id been at a match so much for privacy anyway once again i dont own a dog and have no involvement with dogs so please stop insinuating that im involved in anything illegall , this is the last time i will post on this board , keep scratchin !!!