originally posted by: buster2010
It's not happening in America so why should we go and get our people killed fighting a war that is another nations problem. If the dimwit that made
this video is so upset why doesn't he go over and join the fight? People like him are always willing to get someone else killed while he safely sits
on his butt far away from the fighting. The dude is nothing but a pro war scumbag.

Well why are we dropping bombs on other countries if it's not happening here in the us? We hear that there is really no threat to the us to be
invaded but we are still dropping bombs which do kill a lot of civilians in other countries. And most of the people that we drop bombs on are not a
direct threat to the US.

Because it is a war for profit after all the biggest thing America exports now is death and the weapons of war.

It's amazing that only a generation or two after Vietnam--the war that basically all of America wanted the government to pull out of, the war that
caused people to realize that the US was overstepping its bounds in the international community--a portion of the population allows the media to
convince them that we need to swoop to the rescue of foreign people in a foreign country.

More than Christian's are being killed tortured and raped by these bastards. Why must they try to make it all about Christians?

Because pointing out that they also murder Muslims would be a bad thing. After all it's kind of hard getting a religious war started when the people
see that the people of more than one religion is getting killed.

What we think of as 'collateral damage' is specifically accounted for in the quran.

As a jihadi, you are absolved of the deaths of any innocent people because, if they are not good muslims, good on ya' they go to hell and if they are
good muslims, good on ya' they go to heaven.*

* Not a direct quote and frankly, somewhat poorly paraphrased but, that is what it says.

Let's see a link proving this. The Qur'an forbids killing innocent people.
”You may fight “in the cause of God” against those who attack you, but do not aggress. God does not love the aggressors.” 2:190
You shall not kill - God has made life sacred - except in the course of justice. These are His commandments to you, that you may understand."
6:151
we decreed for the Children of Israel that anyone who murders any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he
murdered all the people. " 5:32

More than Christian's are being killed tortured and raped by these bastards. Why must they try to make it all about Christians?

Because pointing out that they also murder Muslims would be a bad thing. After all it's kind of hard getting a religious war started when the people
see that the people of more than one religion is getting killed.

What we think of as 'collateral damage' is specifically accounted for in the quran.

As a jihadi, you are absolved of the deaths of any innocent people because, if they are not good muslims, good on ya' they go to hell and if they are
good muslims, good on ya' they go to heaven.*

* Not a direct quote and frankly, somewhat poorly paraphrased but, that is what it says.

Let's see a link proving this. The Qur'an forbids killing innocent people.
”You may fight “in the cause of God” against those who attack you, but do not aggress. God does not love the aggressors.” 2:190
You shall not kill - God has made life sacred - except in the course of justice. These are His commandments to you, that you may understand." 6:151
we decreed for the Children of Israel that anyone who murders any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he
murdered all the people. " 5:32

This is going to get tiresome. I have no interest in coaching you on Islam. Read the book yourself.

That said, you are demanding some reference for the acceptability of collateral damage and I did start it:

Chapter 9: PERMISSIBILITY OF KILLING WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THE NIGHT RAIDS, PROVIDED IT IS NOT DELIBERATE

Book 019, Number 4321:
It is reported on the authority of Sa'b b. Jaththama that the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him), when asked about the women and children of the
polytheists being killed during the night raid, said: They are from them.

Book 019, Number 4322:
It is narrated by Sa'b b. Jaththama that he said (to the Holy Prophet): Messenger of Allah, we kill the children of the polytheists during the night
raids. He said: They are from them.

Book 019, Number 4323:
Sa'b b. Jaththama has narrated that the Prophet (may peace be upon him) asked: What about the children of polytheists killed by the cavalry during the
night raid? He said: They are from them.

While I do not claim that the intentional killing of women and children is kosher for jihad

, clearly unintentional killing of
women and children had been accounted for and specifically absolved.

It will take me longer to find some specific references to explain why the unintentional killing of "good muslims" is also
absolved.

But that name like the name Judas, Quisling, and Benedict Arnold has gone down in history filled with mud on it.

In all four gospel accounts Pilate lobbies for Jesus to be spared his eventual fate of execution, and acquiesces only when the crowd refused to
relent. He thus seeks to avoid personal responsibility for the death of Jesus. In the Gospel of Matthew, Pilate washes his hands to show that he was
not responsible for the execution of Jesus and reluctantly sends him to his death.[7] The Gospel of Mark, depicting Jesus as innocent of plotting
against the Roman Empire, portrays Pilate as reluctant to execute Jesus.[7] In the Gospel of Luke, Pilate not only agrees that Jesus did not conspire
against Rome, but Herod Antipas, the Tetrarch of Galilee, also finds nothing treasonable in Jesus' actions.[7] In the Gospel of John, Pilate states "I
find no guilt in him [Jesus]," and he asks the Jews if Jesus should be released from custody.[8]

This is going to get tiresome. I have no interest in coaching you on Islam. Read the book yourself.

Sorry but you can't coach anyone when it comes to Islam. What you quoted is Hadith not the Qur'an itself. So if you can't tell the difference
between the two do you really think you are in a position to coach people when it comes to Islam.

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