Tuck Rule, NBA Version

By Paul Lukas, on October 12th, 2006

Those purple unis aren’t the only thing the Bucks will be leaving behind this season. That news comes courtesy of Trail Blazers play-by-play man Mike Barrett, who has a blog and recently discussed some of the rulebook changes in the NBA this season. Here’s the pertinent passage:

Players can no longer come to the scorer’s table to check in with their jerseys untucked. On the floor, of course, they’ve always had to keep shirts tucked in. Those full-length leg tights that got popular last season are no longer allowed. And sweatbands may be worn only on the wrists, not on the upper arm or forearm. I thought of Kobe when I heard this one, because he always wears one on his bicep. Well, he used to. That won’t be allowed anymore. Players also won’t be allowed wear those rubber bands, which have become so popular, on their wrists. [This is apparently a reference to Livestrong-ish bands. — PL] I’m not trying to put you to sleep here, but just thought you might be interested in some of this stuff.

Note that last bit about sleep inducement, like he’s basically apologizing for talking about uni-related stuff. Is that pathetic or what? We’ve seen this kind of nonsense before, of course, usually from broadcasters who find themselves discussing uniforms on the air and then adopt that mock-ironic tone that basically says, “Ho ho ho, don’t take this too seriously, because I certainly don’t, ha ha ha.” My message to all these clowns: Either talk loud and proud or put a sock in it (striped, natch) and leave the uni chatter to the professionals.

Stormy Weather: Uni Watch South Pole bureau chief Eric Bennett and I had driven about 80% of the way to Shea Stadium last night — through a driving rain the whole way — when, to our great relief, we heard that the game had been called. So we turned around, stopped in Rego Park to have dinner at my favorite kosher Uzbeki kebab house (menu, more menu, typical fare), and then headed back to Brooklyn, where I noticed the following while watching the Tigers/A’s game:

As for our tickets, they’re good for tomorrow’s game. Weather’s supposed to be a lot colder that day, which among other things will put a serious crimp in my plans to wear a Ditch the Black T-shirt — dang.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Gotta assume that the Mets and A’s will both start wearing some sort of memorial patch or armband for Cory Lidle, since he pitched for both of those teams. Haven’t heard anything definite on this front, though. … Case Western is planning a throwback weekend in February (thanks to Todd McGuinness). … Wyoming will be wearing throwbacks — presumably similar to the ones they wore last year — this weekend (with thanks to Chad Smith). … Soccer note from A.J. Zydzik, who writes: “The German national team had a European championship qualifier against Slovakia on Wednesday and they broke out the long-sleeve jerseys, which, to my horror, have mismatched sleeves.” … Speaking of soccer, Mark Lockwood sent along this article, which includes the following passage regarding UK player Wayne Rooney: “Rooney appears to have become the latest high-profile casualty of the curse of Nike, wherein the greater the claims made in adverts for a player’s world-altering abilities, the more likely he is to pick up a long-term injury or suffer a drastic shortfall of form. ‘This is my year,’ Rooney proclaims in the advertisement for the partly reinforced carpet slippers that go by the name of his endorsed football boots these days. ‘And I’m not just going to hit the target, I’m going to destroy it.’ Get back to us on that one, Wayne.”

194 comments to Tuck Rule, NBA Version

Patrick O'Donnell|
October 12, 2006 at 9:11 am |

The “latest” in the Nike curse? Are you serious? For every “cursed” player in Nike campaigns, there are a dozen MVPs, world champions, and once in a lifetime athletes. How’s that curse on Tiger Woods? Or Michael Jordan? Or any of a thousand other athletes? And for the record, Wayne Rooney’s suspensions and subsequent missed games caused his TEMPORARY drop in form. He has been with Nike for a while now, and he was playing fine before the suspension. Mark, I’ll bet you are a Cubs fan and you blame Bartman for the Cubs’ terrible “luck.”

Barney|
October 12, 2006 at 9:19 am |

Do you remember when the Marquette basketball team in the ’70s had uniforms designed to be worn untucked? I can’t find a stinkin’ photo, though.

Kyle|
October 12, 2006 at 9:22 am |

Wow — the last thing I expected to see today was a mention of my alma mater (Case Western). For those of you who don’t know (probably all of you), Case is the amalagamation of a fairly large number of universities, most notably the Mather College for Women (hence the women’s team wearing the yellow jerseys), Adelbert College, Case Institute of Technology, and Western Reserve University. The last merger between CIT and WRU happened in the late 60’s/early 70’s, creating what was known as CWRU (though they now prefer to go by “Case”, much to the dismay of WRU alums). As such, there have to be a large number of throwbacks to choose from. It’s too bad they can’t do this on a weekend where more of the school’s teams are playing.

If you get a chance, play a game with the school’s logo. The symbol is supposed to represent the unity in community (my words). See how long it takes you to see the fat man holding a surfboard.

Kim|
October 12, 2006 at 9:24 am |

That German alternate or change jersey (soccer is usually separated by primaray and alternate as opposed to home and away) was the listed one for the World Cup.

Though the one arm has been changed in the German shirt for the mismatched sleeve ugliness. But to me the most awkward part of the shirt is the off center collar. Also seen here in the MLS All-Star Jersey which is thrown off by the symmetry of the MLS All-Star logo and the team logo of the individual player.

Natron|
October 12, 2006 at 9:31 am |

Here’s a pic of the 1960 University of Minnesota throwbacks they’ll be wearing in their game on 10/21.

I like how CWRU has to change their entire color scheme in order to have a Throwback weekend. The 2nd set with Case in script are very nice – wish there was a picture of the back of the jersey.

bud wv|
October 12, 2006 at 9:35 am |

i was listening to the coach rod radio show last night and wvu will be wearing blue jerseys with gold pants this weekend against syracuse. this is a more traditional look for us, even though it hurts to say that considering the terrible nike templates we wear nowadays. how has uni watch let those terrible unis slide?

and another thing, rodriguez said “the players said they wanted to wear blue shirts and gold pants.” this leads me to believe that players pick the unis everyweek. has anyone heard of other teams doing this?

Natron|
October 12, 2006 at 9:35 am |

[quote comment=”13224″]Here’s a pic of the 1960 University of Minnesota throwbacks they’ll be wearing in their game on 10/21.

Uh, I feel it should be noted that these may not be true representations of the actual 1960 Gopher uniforms… the real ones didn’t have swooshes all over the damn place. ;-)

ESS|
October 12, 2006 at 9:35 am |

[quote comment=”13221″]Wow — the last thing I expected to see today was a mention of my alma mater (Case Western). For those of you who don’t know (probably all of you), Case is the amalagamation of a fairly large number of universities, most notably the Mather College for Women (hence the women’s team wearing the yellow jerseys), Adelbert College, Case Institute of Technology, and Western Reserve University. The last merger between CIT and WRU happened in the late 60’s/early 70’s, creating what was known as CWRU (though they now prefer to go by “Case”, much to the dismay of WRU alums). As such, there have to be a large number of throwbacks to choose from. It’s too bad they can’t do this on a weekend where more of the school’s teams are playing.

If you get a chance, play a game with the school’s logo. The symbol is supposed to represent the unity in community (my words). See how long it takes you to see the fat man holding a surfboard.[/quote]
Exactly .7 seconds!!

Hey Paul- Are those kebobs, or are you slowly introducing us to another sport who’s unis and equipment we’ll need to keep an eye on?

New Orleans|
October 12, 2006 at 9:44 am |

The New Orleans Saints reportedly will be wearing new uniforms next season. Head coach Sean Payton applied with the NFL for a uniform change this season but the NFL requires at least a one year heads-up. Any ideas or inside scoop as to what the Saints will be wearing next season? I wish they would go with a single black helmet stripe or do away with the helmet stripe entirely; or maybe add a contrasting trim color to the uniform.

Natron|
October 12, 2006 at 9:55 am |

[quote comment=”13229″]The New Orleans Saints reportedly will be wearing new uniforms next season. Head coach Sean Payton applied with the NFL for a uniform change this season but the NFL requires at least a one year heads-up. Any ideas or inside scoop as to what the Saints will be wearing next season? I wish they would go with a single black helmet stripe or do away with the helmet stripe entirely; or maybe add a contrasting trim color to the uniform.[/quote]

I think they should leave them – just go back to wearing black at home. There’s nothing wrong with the unis they have, they’re still classics.

im pumped. what sucks is that, i think this season may be their last good run…
if anyone knows what happened to tom lawless, hero of game 4 of the ’87 series, tell him we could use some more of his unlikely heroics…[/quote]

I don’t know about that. I’m gonna give Walt the benefit of the doubt in the offseason. You don’t go to the NLCS 3 years in a row and what 5 in the last 7 years?[/quote]

I have faith in Walt, but it is going to be one of his tougher offseasons. We could be looking at a new 2B, SS, CF and probably 3 new starters. I wouldn’t mind them bringing back Belliard and Edmonds at a reduced salary, but we better have a good backup OF other than So in case/when Jimmy gets hurt again.

I am going to enjoy this postseason though, and keep my fingers crossed we win at least one game since I have NLCS game 5 tickets.[/quote]

This was posted from yesterday, just now getting a chance to respond.

I completely agree with you about finding players at that position. As much as I love Eckstein, we need a better arm at short. Ronnie has done a good job since he came over. As for Edmonds, I would absolutely hate to see someone else in center next year. Jim E. has been mine and my brother’s favorite player for awhile now. He just needs to get healthy, I know he’s getting older, but he’ll be OK. I have faith in Walt to get the position players sewn up, the thing I’m worried about is the pitching next year.

Oh and if you need someone to go to Game 5, I’ll drive down from Chicago!!

GO CARD’S!!!

Dave|
October 12, 2006 at 10:03 am |

Paul,
Is that place open late, looks great might check it out after the game tonight. Was planning on going to Park Side in Corona.

Dan|
October 12, 2006 at 10:05 am |

[quote comment=”13226″]i was listening to the coach rod radio show last night and wvu will be wearing blue jerseys with gold pants this weekend against syracuse. this is a more traditional look for us, even though it hurts to say that considering the terrible nike templates we wear nowadays. how has uni watch let those terrible unis slide?

and another thing, rodriguez said “the players said they wanted to wear blue shirts and gold pants.” this leads me to believe that players pick the unis everyweek. has anyone heard of other teams doing this?[/quote]

WVU’s current sartorial abominations are a sad departure from the classy, simple design worn for most of the Don Nehlen era. Like Oregon, WVU sports a handsome, instantly recognizable helmet… but from the neck down, they’re a disaster, one of the ten worst uniforms in Division I.

Brinke Guthrie|
October 12, 2006 at 10:05 am |

Couple great local stories about Lidle. One, he was nicknamed “Snacks” because he loved junk food so much. And then, he had a twin brother, so once he had his brother put on a uniform, and go down to warm up when the pitching coach asked him to, presumably while he hid in the clubhouse!

[quote comment=”13233″]Paul,
Is that place open late, looks great might check it out after the game tonight. Was planning on going to Park Side in Corona.[/quote]

Ah, with dessert at the Lemon Ice King, right?

Not sure how late Cheburechnaya is open. Their address and phone number (and a full review by my pal Rob’t Sietsema) are available here.

Matt|
October 12, 2006 at 10:09 am |

PL: WeatherÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s supposed to be a lot colder that day, which among other things will put a serious crimp in my plans to wear a Ditch the Black T-shirt Ã¢â‚¬” dang.

Get a sweet Nike dot-matrix long sleeve undershirt to wear beneath your DTB gear. Duh! Actually it looks like those might not be available to us mortals quite yet. There’s always this, though. (Also available in purple and black.)

New Orleans|
October 12, 2006 at 10:13 am |

I think (the Saints) should leave them – just go back to wearing black at home. ThereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s nothing wrong with the unis they have, theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re still classics.

I kinda agree with you, except for the helmets… I am a fan of traditional style uniforms. However, the helmet stripes on the current uniform bothers me, particularly with the black jerseys. The helmet was designed to coordinate with the original uniforms which had identical stripes on the pants, like Green Bay and Dallas, for example. As the uniform evolved over the years the pants stripes changed but not the helmet stripes. The Saints black jerseys have gold numerals with a thin white trim and their gold paints have a broad solid black stripe. IMO the white helmet stripe looks out of place with the black jerseys. If the Saints kept basically the same uniform I think it would look better with a single black helmet stripe (such as Oakland’s) or no stripe at all. BTW a few years ago Jim Haslett applied to the NFL to change the Saints helmets to black but was turned down, presumably because there were already several teams, including their division rival Atlanta, with black helmets.

Eric Bennett|
October 12, 2006 at 10:14 am |

Not to worry Paul, you’re favortie Uni Watch South Pole Bureau Chief is prepared for friday nights game with a couple of classic blue and orange knit hats from fan appriciation days of yore.
Just don’t forget to bring that bag of malted milk balls

Austin Gray|
October 12, 2006 at 10:15 am |

Response to Post # 4 by Kim and the topic of the German shirts in general –

Actually, the German shirt pictured is not the same template as the Houston Dynamo. Believe it or not their Away shirt is actually the same template as their Home shirt, they’ve just colored the panels of the shirt differently. Whereas the Dynamo’s template has that very odd neckline, the Germany shirts have the same, symmetrical neckline. The Dynamo template is also worn by Trinidad & Tobago, Romania, and Ajax of Amsterdam.

Also, in response to the mention in the blog about the shirt, the fact that it is long sleeved is kind of irrelevent. The sleeves are mismatched because it is the design of the shirt (for better or for worse) and has nothing to do with the fact that the shirt is long sleeved. You can get the shirt with short sleeves or long sleeves.

Gabe|
October 12, 2006 at 10:15 am |

Did anyone see the “Stunna Shades” that Milton Bradley was wearing in the field last night? I can’t seem to find a picture of it but I think they are a major improvement over the flip up style. Also I thought that these were not allowed or is that only for pitchers?

Robert|
October 12, 2006 at 10:16 am |

I love seeing the NBA take control of some uni-related issued. Why can’t MLB show some ‘nads and ban slacks?

skott|
October 12, 2006 at 10:23 am |

wow.

i’m both excited and nervous about ANY changes to the Saints uniforms…

they are one of my alltime favorites. the throwback ones i love and the kinda older ones with the LA state outline on the pants i love, too…

my only problem with it is its an OBVIOUS attempt to grab more cash.

first there was the Reggie Bush #5
then the REAL Reggie Bush uni.
so i guess now that everyone has one or the other they are going to need the NEW Reggie Bush uni…

ugh.

i really hope they incorporate some Katrina memory, be it the date or something, in the uni, ala the Bears and the Halas letters on the sleeve.

maybe that’d be in bad taste as they try to rebuild, though? huh. not sure. i’ll think more on that.

Kevin|
October 12, 2006 at 10:26 am |

[quote comment=”13231″]

This was posted from yesterday, just now getting a chance to respond.

I completely agree with you about finding players at that position. As much as I love Eckstein, we need a better arm at short. Ronnie has done a good job since he came over. As for Edmonds, I would absolutely hate to see someone else in center next year. Jim E. has been mine and my brother’s favorite player for awhile now. He just needs to get healthy, I know he’s getting older, but he’ll be OK. I have faith in Walt to get the position players sewn up, the thing I’m worried about is the pitching next year.

Oh and if you need someone to go to Game 5, I’ll drive down from Chicago!!

GO CARD’S!!![/quote]

I don’t mind Eckstein at short, or we could possibly move him to 2B if Belliard leaves. I don’t think his arm really hurts us that much and he is a good leadoff guy.

As for Edmonds, I don’t see the Cards picking up his 8 figure option. Hopefully there won’t be hard feelings and they can work out a cheaper alternative. I’m not sure what free agents are out there that would take his place and we really have no trade bait that would fetch us a CF.

The rotation will be the big question mark after Carpenter and Reyes.

As for Game 5, my wife got first dibs and she is pumped about going. My 2 brothers were praying she said no.

Kevin|
October 12, 2006 at 10:28 am |

[quote comment=”13242″] Also I thought that these were not allowed or is that only for pitchers?[/quote]

That is only for pitchers, as they could cause a distraction to the hitter, just like a white glove or jewelry.

New Orleans|
October 12, 2006 at 10:28 am |

i love and the kinda older ones with the LA state outline on the pants i love, tooÃ¢â‚¬Â¦

I remember when the Saints introduced the Louisiana state outline on their uniforms… Bum Phillips was the coach. At the time, the Saints were flirting with relocating to Jacksonville so one the local television sportscasters suggested that the Saints apply the Louisiana state emblem to their uniforms with velcro just in case. :>)

Couldn’t find the “untucked” MU unis from the early 70s but I did find these that immediately preceded them. These were the prototypes for the “hashmark” unis worn by Cleveland during the Jim Chones era. Sadly they’re in black and white or you could see the San Diego-collegiate blue, the yellow and black hashmarks on the side and the upward-arching MARQUETTE in all their glory.

In an early version of what a lot of schools have now with Nike, Under Armor and the rest, Marquette was the “test school”: for Medalist Sand-Knit, which also did the famous Astros rainbow unis. Among the MU classics were the bumblebees (black with horizontal yellow pinstripes) and the untucked, which featured both the team name and the player name below the numbers, just to make zure you had a reason to untuck the shirt.

Here is one poor image of the untucked Marquette jerseys:Marquette
It’s from the back, but it’ll have to suffice for now.

Miguel|
October 12, 2006 at 10:37 am |

[quote comment=”13237″]PL: WeatherÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s supposed to be a lot colder that day, which among other things will put a serious crimp in my plans to wear a Ditch the Black T-shirt Ã¢â‚¬” dang.

Get a sweet Nike dot-matrix long sleeve undershirt to wear beneath your DTB gear. Duh! Actually it looks like those might not be available to us mortals quite yet. There’s always this, though. (Also available in purple and black.)[/quote]

Hey Paul,
I guess you won’t be wearing this under your “Ditch the Black” shirt?

Natron|
October 12, 2006 at 10:37 am |

[quote comment=”13245″]wow.

i’m both excited and nervous about ANY changes to the Saints uniforms…

they are one of my alltime favorites. the throwback ones i love and the kinda older ones with the LA state outline on the pants i love, too…

my only problem with it is its an OBVIOUS attempt to grab more cash.

first there was the Reggie Bush #5
then the REAL Reggie Bush uni.
so i guess now that everyone has one or the other they are going to need the NEW Reggie Bush uni…

ugh.

i really hope they incorporate some Katrina memory, be it the date or something, in the uni, ala the Bears and the Halas letters on the sleeve.

maybe that’d be in bad taste as they try to rebuild, though? huh. not sure. i’ll think more on that.[/quote]

Personally, if I were Saints fan (and who isn’t at this point), I would be nervous about this. Just look at how most of the recent uni redesigns have gone: Vikes, Bills, Broncos, Bengals, Lions… all atrocious. None of them can hold a candle to this – helmet stripe or not.

If they start messing with them, recent history says it’s going to get ugly.

Kelli|
October 12, 2006 at 10:42 am |

[quote comment=”13237″]PL: WeatherÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s supposed to be a lot colder that day, which among other things will put a serious crimp in my plans to wear a Ditch the Black T-shirt Ã¢â‚¬” dang.

Get a sweet Nike dot-matrix long sleeve undershirt to wear beneath your DTB gear. Duh! Actually it looks like those might not be available to us mortals quite yet. There’s always this, though. (Also available in purple and black.)[/quote]

Wow….Nike is is now making tops with an inner bra for men! Or is it a bro?

Go Tigers!

grb|
October 12, 2006 at 10:42 am |

Any truth to the rumor that the Angels may sport new scarlet alternate jerseys next season?

Keith|
October 12, 2006 at 10:45 am |

[quote comment=”13218″]The “latest” in the Nike curse? Are you serious? For every “cursed” player in Nike campaigns, there are a dozen MVPs, world champions, and once in a lifetime athletes. How’s that curse on Tiger Woods? Or Michael Jordan? Or any of a thousand other athletes? And for the record, Wayne Rooney’s suspensions and subsequent missed games caused his TEMPORARY drop in form. He has been with Nike for a while now, and he was playing fine before the suspension. Mark, I’ll bet you are a Cubs fan and you blame Bartman for the Cubs’ terrible “luck.”[/quote]

It’s a soccer-specific curse. Witness Ronaldinho’s performance in the WC this year while he was all over the telly in Nike’s “Joga Bonito” ads. Plus, Rooney had the foot injury to come back from right before the WC.

[quote comment=”13218″]The “latest” in the Nike curse? Are you serious? For every “cursed” player in Nike campaigns, there are a dozen MVPs, world champions, and once in a lifetime athletes. How’s that curse on Tiger Woods? Or Michael Jordan? Or any of a thousand other athletes? And for the record, Wayne Rooney’s suspensions and subsequent missed games caused his TEMPORARY drop in form. He has been with Nike for a while now, and he was playing fine before the suspension. Mark, I’ll bet you are a Cubs fan and you blame Bartman for the Cubs’ terrible “luck.”[/quote]

I believe your are taking that quote out of context. The Times correspondent was strictly referring to UK Footballers that have had various foot problems, specifically metatarsal (sp?)issues once they use Nike boots. Let’s not be a Nike apologist, everyone that’s anyone in World Football knows that Nike is a ‘johnny come lately’ onto the world football scene and can’t hold adidas’ jock when it comes to the beautiful game. Nike should continue outfitting clowns like Oregon Univ. and those overrated fools from Jogo Bonito and let the rest of the footballing community alone and stop inflicting all those stupid cookie cutter kits that only appeal to silly short attention spanned 12 years old.
There, I said.

[quote comment=”13220″]Do you remember when the Marquette basketball team in the ’70s had uniforms designed to be worn untucked? I can’t find a stinkin’ photo, though.[/quote]

Yes !!! I loved those. DePaul had the same unis. Marquette’s had a blue/gold/white running down the sides of the shirts and shorts — you’re referring to the Marquette 1977 team, and Depaul wore them into the early 80’s (aguirre & cummings era)

My memory may be playing tricks on me, but I seem to recall that at least a couple of basketball players (I can’t recall who, or even if it was college or NBA) wore ordinary rubber bands (the office-supply variety) around their wrists. I recall this from at least 5 or 6 years ago, maybe earlier, so the reference to “those rubber bands” may refer to more than just Livestrong-type thingies.

[quote comment=”13241″]Response to Post # 4 by Kim and the topic of the German shirts in general –

Actually, the German shirt pictured is not the same template as the Houston Dynamo. Believe it or not their Away shirt is actually the same template as their Home shirt, they’ve just colored the panels of the shirt differently. Whereas the Dynamo’s template has that very odd neckline, the Germany shirts have the same, symmetrical neckline. The Dynamo template is also worn by Trinidad & Tobago, Romania, and Ajax of Amsterdam.

Also, in response to the mention in the blog about the shirt, the fact that it is long sleeved is kind of irrelevent. The sleeves are mismatched because it is the design of the shirt (for better or for worse) and has nothing to do with the fact that the shirt is long sleeved.

You can get the shirt with short sleeves or long sleeves.[/quote]
Germany aren’t the only team with mismatched sleeves, see the Liverpool European Away kit which is white with one green sleeve, coincidentally, also by adidas

Miguel|
October 12, 2006 at 11:07 am |

[quote comment=”13257″]

Let’s not be a Nike apologist, everyone that’s anyone in World Football knows that Nike is a ‘johnny come lately’ onto the world football scene and can’t hold adidas’ jock when it comes to the beautiful game. Nike should continue outfitting clowns like Oregon Univ. and those overrated fools from Jogo Bonito and let the rest of the footballing community alone and stop inflicting all those stupid cookie cutter kits that only appeal to silly short attention spanned 12 years old.
There, I said.[/quote]

Sure Nike is fairly new to soccer, but everybody has to start somewhere. Everybody here raves about Under Armour, but that company was startedafter Nike took soccer seriously, and none of the anti-Nike myopics call UA a “johnny come lately”.

Kenny|
October 12, 2006 at 11:08 am |

[quote comment=”13246″][quote comment=”13231″]

This was posted from yesterday, just now getting a chance to respond.

I completely agree with you about finding players at that position. As much as I love Eckstein, we need a better arm at short. Ronnie has done a good job since he came over. As for Edmonds, I would absolutely hate to see someone else in center next year. Jim E. has been mine and my brother’s favorite player for awhile now. He just needs to get healthy, I know he’s getting older, but he’ll be OK. I have faith in Walt to get the position players sewn up, the thing I’m worried about is the pitching next year.

Oh and if you need someone to go to Game 5, I’ll drive down from Chicago!!

GO CARD’S!!![/quote]

I don’t mind Eckstein at short, or we could possibly move him to 2B if Belliard leaves. I don’t think his arm really hurts us that much and he is a good leadoff guy.

As for Edmonds, I don’t see the Cards picking up his 8 figure option. Hopefully there won’t be hard feelings and they can work out a cheaper alternative. I’m not sure what free agents are out there that would take his place and we really have no trade bait that would fetch us a CF.

The rotation will be the big question mark after Carpenter and Reyes.

As for Game 5, my wife got first dibs and she is pumped about going. My 2 brothers were praying she said no.[/quote]

Well I hoped/figured you would have someone to go with you, but it was worth throwin’ it out there. Well hopefully you get to go and the Mets wear the black, cuz I think someone said last time they wore them in the playoffs they lost.

At the time, these were awful. But I prefer this look (striped socks and no pajama bottoms) to what we have to look at now.

Just got Sports Illustrated’s “The Baseball Look”. It’s got great photos of unis throughout the decades. One funny gaffe on the cover is a colorized black & white photo of Ted Williams with blue socks.

ard|
October 12, 2006 at 11:13 am |

i don’t have a screen grab but did anyone see todd jones untuck his jersey last night in the middle of his interview on fox? i guess i can understand since he probably would have had to wait about 1-2 minutes before he was off the field. that’s quite a long time to keep the shirt tucked in.

Tyler|
October 12, 2006 at 11:13 am |

Did anyone see the Ã¢â‚¬Å“Stunna ShadesÃ¢â‚¬Â that Milton Bradley was wearing in the field last night? I canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t seem to find a picture of it but I think they are a major improvement over the flip up style. Also I thought that these were not allowed or is that only for pitchers?

[quote comment=”13218″]The “latest” in the Nike curse? Are you serious?[/quote]

Yes.

Ever since Nike (allegedly) made Ronaldo play in the World Cup Final (2002?) every football (soccer) player who has been the focus of Nike’s advertising campaigns has been less successful after than before.

[quote comment=”13267″]i don’t have a screen grab but did anyone see todd jones untuck his jersey last night in the middle of his interview on fox? i guess i can understand since he probably would have had to wait about 1-2 minutes before he was off the field. that’s quite a long time to keep the shirt tucked in.[/quote]

Yea, I definitely caught that… I thought it was a blatent attempt at garnering ‘street cred’.
sad old tubby man trying to look ‘cool’. :)

Kim|
October 12, 2006 at 11:18 am |

[quote comment=”13241″]Response to Post # 4 by Kim and the topic of the German shirts in general –

Actually, the German shirt pictured is not the same template as the Houston Dynamo. Believe it or not their Away shirt is actually the same template as their Home shirt, they’ve just colored the panels of the shirt differently. Whereas the Dynamo’s template has that very odd neckline, the Germany shirts have the same, symmetrical neckline. The Dynamo template is also worn by Trinidad & Tobago, Romania, and Ajax of Amsterdam.

Also, in response to the mention in the blog about the shirt, the fact that it is long sleeved is kind of irrelevent. The sleeves are mismatched because it is the design of the shirt (for better or for worse) and has nothing to do with the fact that the shirt is long sleeved.

You can get the shirt with short sleeves or long sleeves.[/quote]

Thanks, I didn’t look at the German kit close enough. You’re absolutely right. adidas essentially has three templates, and I managed to get it wrong….

Austin Gray|
October 12, 2006 at 11:23 am |

[quote comment=”13271″]

Thanks, I didn’t look at the German kit close enough. You’re absolutely right. adidas essentially has three templates, and I managed to get it wrong….[/quote]

No worries. You’d have to be pretty anal about sort of thing in order to even catch it. Which I am.

Let’s not be a Nike apologist, everyone that’s anyone in World Football knows that Nike is a ‘johnny come lately’ onto the world football scene and can’t hold adidas’ jock when it comes to the beautiful game. Nike should continue outfitting clowns like Oregon Univ. and those overrated fools from Jogo Bonito and let the rest of the footballing community alone and stop inflicting all those stupid cookie cutter kits that only appeal to silly short attention spanned 12 years old.
There, I said.[/quote]

Sure Nike is fairly new to soccer, but everybody has to start somewhere. Everybody here raves about Under Armour, but that company was startedafter Nike took soccer seriously, and none of the anti-Nike myopics call UA a “johnny come lately”.[/quote]

Hmmm… USA, Mexico, Holland, Brasil, Australia, Korea did not sport identical kits just previous to 2006? No one doubts that making an imprint in a community takes time, what I have a problem with is Nike’s bull in a china shop approach. I don’t have a problem with that tact in American sporting events and traditions, but the swoosh attempts to make it’s imprint on the world game in the same brash manner as a un-named clueless fool that has set back this nation 2 decades.
Maybe comparing Knight to that doofus is a stretch–pero no importa, ya me tiene sin cuidado.

i was listening to the coach rod radio show last night and wvu will be wearing blue jerseys with gold pants this weekend against syracuse. this is a more traditional look for us, even though it hurts to say that considering the terrible nike templates we wear nowadays. how has uni watch let those terrible unis slide?

and another thing, rodriguez said Ã¢â‚¬Å“the players said they wanted to wear blue shirts and gold pants.Ã¢â‚¬Â this leads me to believe that players pick the unis everyweek. has anyone heard of other teams doing this?

WVUÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s current sartorial abominations are a sad departure from the classy, simple design worn for most of the Don Nehlen era. Like Oregon, WVU sports a handsome, instantly recognizable helmetÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ but from the neck down, theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re a disaster, one of the ten worst uniforms in Division I.

it really is sad. we had one of the best unis back in the 80’s and 90’s (think michigan plus some white trim). our helmet is still top notch, and even though i have an admitted bias, i would still rank it in the top five helmets in college football. the thing thats even more sad is that we had nike uniforms back in the late nehlen days and still kept the classic design. seems to me that rich rod is another example of a coach wanting to put his own stamp on the progam. and thats not something i particularly have a problem with all the time, but he could have at least stayed away from the nike defaults because now we just look like cal with more illegible numbering.

Sure Nike is fairly new to soccer, but everybody has to start somewhere. Everybody here raves about Under Armour, but that company was startedafter Nike took soccer seriously, and none of the anti-Nike myopics call UA a “johnny come lately”.[/quote]

I’ve been obsessive about soccer jerseys for as long as I can remember, I’ve collected them for about 12 years, and I design them for fun in my spare time. And whether they’ve been around forever or not, I don’t think Adidas kits hold a candle to Nike’s. I’m not willing to write Nike a free pass for things like Oregon’s football unis (though if you take off the cross hatch pattern, they’re not that bad) or for team USA’s basketball uniforms. But as far as the world of soccer is concerned, Nike is staying true to soccer’s roots, and Adidas has lost the plot. This and this are things of beauty. This and this are an embarrassment to the sport.

Riff|
October 12, 2006 at 11:34 am |

Geez, eveything I want to say has already been said.

Thanks Austin Gray (#20) for clearing that German jersey thing up. I was about to do that myself.

Miguel (#41), I couldn’t have said it better myself. A arauz, Maybe Nike does that with such confidence because they have the quality products now to back it up. And yes, I think that comparison is a stretch.

Alex|
October 12, 2006 at 11:39 am |

Get a sweet Nike dot-matrix long sleeve undershirt to wear beneath your DTB gear. Duh! Actually it looks like those might not be available to us mortals quite yet. ThereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s always this, though. (Also available in purple and black.)

I’ve seen the dot-matrix sleeves in Nike Town stores..not sure if they’re in regular sports stores yet…Paul, you’ve got plenty of time to get “Ditch the Black” embroidered on a hoodie or even on the back of a Mets MLB jacket…

Mark|
October 12, 2006 at 11:40 am |

[quote comment=”13221″]The last merger between CIT and WRU happened in the late 60’s/early 70’s, creating what was known as CWRU (though they now prefer to go by “Case”, much to the dismay of WRU alums). As such, there have to be a large number of throwbacks to choose from. It’s too bad they can’t do this on a weekend where more of the school’s teams are playing.[/quote]

Actually it was a “federation” between the schools, and not a merger per se. ;)
Yeah, CWRU has had some unique mascots in the past — the Rough Riders and the Red Cats. A couple years ago there was talk of changing away from the Spartans and to something else..There was talk of the “Red Riders” as it harkens back to the day of the two schools, but apparently they just updated the Spartan. The XC team does use Red Riders as its unofficial nickname. On a personal level, I’d like them to do throwbacks for the swim team — use those old suits with the shoulder straps from the 30s and 40s.

Taylor|
October 12, 2006 at 12:04 pm |

[quote comment=”13276″]dan said:

bud wv said:

i was listening to the coach rod radio show last night and wvu will be wearing blue jerseys with gold pants this weekend against syracuse. this is a more traditional look for us, even though it hurts to say that considering the terrible nike templates we wear nowadays. how has uni watch let those terrible unis slide?

and another thing, rodriguez said Ã¢â‚¬Å“the players said they wanted to wear blue shirts and gold pants.Ã¢â‚¬Â this leads me to believe that players pick the unis everyweek. has anyone heard of other teams doing this?

WVUÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s current sartorial abominations are a sad departure from the classy, simple design worn for most of the Don Nehlen era. Like Oregon, WVU sports a handsome, instantly recognizable helmetÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ but from the neck down, theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re a disaster, one of the ten worst uniforms in Division I.

it really is sad. we had one of the best unis back in the 80’s and 90’s (think michigan plus some white trim). our helmet is still top notch, and even though i have an admitted bias, i would still rank it in the top five helmets in college football. the thing thats even more sad is that we had nike uniforms back in the late nehlen days and still kept the classic design. seems to me that rich rod is another example of a coach wanting to put his own stamp on the progam. and thats not something i particularly have a problem with all the time, but he could have at least stayed away from the nike defaults because now we just look like cal with more illegible numbering.

and there’s nothing wrong with Mexico’s current uni. I love the ghosted Aztec print.

jake|
October 12, 2006 at 12:34 pm |

[quote comment=”13267″]i don’t have a screen grab but did anyone see todd jones untuck his jersey last night in the middle of his interview on fox? i guess i can understand since he probably would have had to wait about 1-2 minutes before he was off the field. that’s quite a long time to keep the shirt tucked in.[/quote]

Dang I was going to mention that. It must have been cold however because he was wearing quite the sweater underneath is jersey, oh wait…

DP|
October 12, 2006 at 12:48 pm |

Top helmet designs. Good question. I’m bias with Oregon, but here are my choices from each conference (with alternates). I don’t really like any in the MAC or Sun Belt. Also, I think ND, Navy, and Army all look classic, but if they’re too stubborn to join a conference, then they don’t get a vote. :-)

i was listening to the coach rod radio show last night and wvu will be wearing blue jerseys with gold pants this weekend against syracuse. this is a more traditional look for us, even though it hurts to say that considering the terrible nike templates we wear nowadays. how has uni watch let those terrible unis slide?

and another thing, rodriguez said Ã¢â‚¬Å“the players said they wanted to wear blue shirts and gold pants.Ã¢â‚¬Â this leads me to believe that players pick the unis everyweek. has anyone heard of other teams doing this?

WVUÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s current sartorial abominations are a sad departure from the classy, simple design worn for most of the Don Nehlen era. Like Oregon, WVU sports a handsome, instantly recognizable helmetÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ but from the neck down, theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re a disaster, one of the ten worst uniforms in Division I.

it really is sad. we had one of the best unis back in the 80’s and 90’s (think michigan plus some white trim). our helmet is still top notch, and even though i have an admitted bias, i would still rank it in the top five helmets in college football. the thing thats even more sad is that we had nike uniforms back in the late nehlen days and still kept the classic design. seems to me that rich rod is another example of a coach wanting to put his own stamp on the progam. and thats not something i particularly have a problem with all the time, but he could have at least stayed away from the nike defaults because now we just look like cal with more illegible numbering.

what does everyone think of as their top five helmet designs?[/quote]

Didn’t know there were actually other WVU fans here!

I agree with the above comments, what really made me sad this year was the denver broncos-like “swoosh” strip on the side of the pants. That was not there last year. The blue on blue also doesn’t sit well with me, but as long as the ‘eers keep winning, I’ll try and keep my mouth shut.

80’s and 90’s unis were great, but there was a while in the late 90’s when WVU adopted the Dallas Coyboys number font, which didn’t make me real happy either.

Bouj|
October 12, 2006 at 12:57 pm |

[quote comment=”13271″][quote comment=”13241″]Response to Post # 4 by Kim and the topic of the German shirts in general –

Actually, the German shirt pictured is not the same template as the Houston Dynamo. Believe it or not their Away shirt is actually the same template as their Home shirt, they’ve just colored the panels of the shirt differently. Whereas the Dynamo’s template has that very odd neckline, the Germany shirts have the same, symmetrical neckline. The Dynamo template is also worn by Trinidad & Tobago, Romania, and Ajax of Amsterdam.

Also, in response to the mention in the blog about the shirt, the fact that it is long sleeved is kind of irrelevent. The sleeves are mismatched because it is the design of the shirt (for better or for worse) and has nothing to do with the fact that the shirt is long sleeved.

You can get the shirt with short sleeves or long sleeves.[/quote]

Thanks, I didn’t look at the German kit close enough. You’re absolutely right. adidas essentially has three templates, and I managed to get it wrong….[/quote]

FYI, the official designations for the kits are United (for the Germany/Liverpool style) and Libero (for the Dynamo/Ajax style). The United shirt is the higher-end shirt, and it’s being pushed by most of adidas’ top clubs, like Milan and Real Madrid.

I have a Houston shirt and it’s pretty breathable and lightweight. I haven’t had a chance to feel the United yet.

Tom|
October 12, 2006 at 1:00 pm |

[quote comment=”13288″]
…
Syracuse (West Virginia…I think the W & V should form the shape of the state)
…
[/quote]

I see where you’re going with the “shape of the state” thing, but have you actually looked at the state? The northern pan-handle would be kinda tough to work into the logo.

At least our overall unis are still better than Syracuse. I was watching their game last weekend with some non-uni watchers, and one of the guys actually said, “those are horrible, I though the color on the TV was messed up, but those are actually thier uniforms!”

DP|
October 12, 2006 at 1:12 pm |

Yeah, I’ve looked at the state (I make maps for a living). I think it could be done.

Regarding SYR, I can’t explain why but I kind of like their uni’s. Granted, I’d throw in a small amount of white here and there, but I like the two-tone look. Even if it is orange on blue. I’m a Duck fan, so maybe I am open for going along with anything else that’s out there…

bud|
October 12, 2006 at 1:15 pm |

i gotta admit i’m a little surprised at some of the responses for favorite helmets. i was expecting some of the classics (ND, michigan), but hear names like orgegon thrown around in the same sentence is sort of a shock. granted i do like the orgeon helmet, but i would never consider it in the same group as classics just because it has only been around since the late 90’s (i think).

i remember a great story not too long ago, i cant remember where it was or who wrote it, but it ran down all the bowl games in the recent past and showed that teams that had stuck with a particular helmet design for over 20 years had a much higher winning percentage. anyone else remember this?

FYI, the official designations for the kits are United (for the Germany/Liverpool style) and Libero (for the Dynamo/Ajax style). The United shirt is the higher-end shirt, and it’s being pushed by most of adidas’ top clubs, like Milan and Real Madrid.

I have a Houston shirt and it’s pretty breathable and lightweight. I haven’t had a chance to feel the United yet.[/quote]

Milan actually uses a different template for their home shirt that wasn’t previously linked on this site. Do you know what it’s called?

Tom|
October 12, 2006 at 1:22 pm |

[quote comment=”13295″]Yeah, I’ve looked at the state (I make maps for a living). I think it could be done.

Regarding SYR, I can’t explain why but I kind of like their uni’s. Granted, I’d throw in a small amount of white here and there, but I like the two-tone look. Even if it is orange on blue. I’m a Duck fan, so maybe I am open for going along with anything else that’s out there…[/quote]

Well, as a duck fan, you’d have to be open minded. I’m actually one of the few who don’t really mind Oregon’s uniforms (although I’m not fond of the predominantly yellow ones or the “metal diamond dealies”)–but I really don’t like Syracuse’s, but I’ll agree with a little white here and there they would be much better.

As far as the state thing, I’m too biased as an alum to want to change the flying WV–I guess it could be done, but I think it would look awkward and not as classic.

Dave|
October 12, 2006 at 1:26 pm |

[quote comment=”13236″][quote comment=”13233″]Paul,
Is that place open late, looks great might check it out after the game tonight. Was planning on going to Park Side in Corona.[/quote]

Ah, with dessert at the Lemon Ice King, right?

Not sure how late Cheburechnaya is open. Their address and phone number (and a full review by my pal Rob’t Sietsema) are available here.[/quote]

Exactly Paul, followed by some ices, sometimes if I’m really fat I get a cannoli at Park Side before walking acroos the street.

Lets Go Mets

DP|
October 12, 2006 at 1:28 pm |

[quote comment=”13300″][quote comment=”13295″]Yeah, I’ve looked at the state (I make maps for a living). I think it could be done.

Regarding SYR, I can’t explain why but I kind of like their uni’s. Granted, I’d throw in a small amount of white here and there, but I like the two-tone look. Even if it is orange on blue. I’m a Duck fan, so maybe I am open for going along with anything else that’s out there…[/quote]

Well, as a duck fan, you’d have to be open minded. I’m actually one of the few who don’t really mind Oregon’s uniforms (although I’m not fond of the predominantly yellow ones or the “metal diamond dealies”)–but I really don’t like Syracuse’s, but I’ll agree with a little white here and there they would be much better.

As far as the state thing, I’m too biased as an alum to want to change the flying WV–I guess it could be done, but I think it would look awkward and not as classic.[/quote]

Honestly, if Oregon didn’t have the chrome plating crap (we get it guys, you look tough) I’d be somewhat ok with things. I really hate the use of black. Especially when they could just use a really dark green if they wanted to go that route. Maybe I should start a “Ditch The Quack Black” petition. Hehheh…not a friggin bad idea come to think of it!!

As for WV, I definitely hear you on not wanting to change things at this point. It is pretty classic. How long has thet helmet been around? I could look it up I guess…

Dave|
October 12, 2006 at 1:28 pm |

Ohio States helmets when the buckeyes start filling it up and the sparkle of the silver when they play under the lights are the best.

West Virinians will make that gesture to create a make-shift map to explain where places within the state are. “It’s north of Wheeling, just past my knuckle”.

And usually it’s the visitors making that gesture at the mountaineer fans during the games.

Andy from KC|
October 12, 2006 at 1:37 pm |

[quote comment=”13243″]I love seeing the NBA take control of some uni-related issued. Why can’t MLB show some ‘nads and ban slacks?[/quote]

Well, I mean … we don’t REALLY want to see the players’ nads, do we? They’d probably be really hard to find, anyway, what with all the steroids and all. I … oh WAIT, you meant … oh. Right. Sorry.

Brian from Short Island|
October 12, 2006 at 1:38 pm |

[quote comment=”13241″]Response to Post # 4 by Kim and the topic of the German shirts in general –

Actually, the German shirt pictured is not the same template as the Houston Dynamo. Believe it or not their Away shirt is actually the same template as their Home shirt, they’ve just colored the panels of the shirt differently. Whereas the Dynamo’s template has that very odd neckline, the Germany shirts have the same, symmetrical neckline. The Dynamo template is also worn by Trinidad & Tobago, Romania, and Ajax of Amsterdam.

Also, in response to the mention in the blog about the shirt, the fact that it is long sleeved is kind of irrelevent. The sleeves are mismatched because it is the design of the shirt (for better or for worse) and has nothing to do with the fact that the shirt is long sleeved.

Nice. That made me laugh. Their own version of the “Hook Em Horns”? The “F Em Neers”…

[quote comment=”13305″][quote comment=”13297”]
There’s a lot of great helmet out there, how about the bad ones?

I’d like to nominate U. of Md.’s “Terps” helmet–they really need to go back to the simple “M” helmets.

Any others?[/quote]

Funny you mention that. When I was making my list if goof helmets, I was also noticing some bad ones. MD definitely made that list! Either go back to the M, or just put a red state on white background. But yeah, the Terps needs to go.

I think Wake Forest should put the Demon Deacon logo on the helmet, the “WF” is kind of blah. Also, Iowa State’s helmet (which has been discussed here before) needs to be changed, IMO. I’d like to see Arizona go back to the asymmetrical white helmet, too.

I have a feeling I’m going to be on this helmet thread all day. Anyway, interesting you list Duke. I actually really like it, and think it’s one of the better in the ACC. Fully agree with Florida.

I would definitely throw Oregon’s yellow on there…but only if it does have faint flames on it. Give me a break.

DP|
October 12, 2006 at 1:47 pm |

Woops…screwing up the quote thing on here in my previous posts.

DP|
October 12, 2006 at 1:54 pm |

[quote comment=”13314″]I think Wake Forest should put the Demon Deacon logo on the helmet, the “WF” is kind of blah. Also, Iowa State’s helmet (which has been discussed here before) needs to be changed, IMO. I’d like to see Arizona go back to the asymmetrical white helmet, too.[/quote]

Not sure what Wake should do, but it definitely has room for improvement. I know ISU has been discussed, but had to throw it on the list anyway. It is pretty bad. I’m ok with Arizona’s. I thought the white was cool too. Especially since only one other Pac-10 school uses it. Well, now Oregon is on that list…but thay have, like, 14 helmets.

MetsFan AZ|
October 12, 2006 at 2:00 pm |

[quote comment=”13314″]I’d like to see Arizona go back to the asymmetrical white helmet, too.[/quote]
Assymetrical how? I thought it was just an A on both sides. I know the A changed from blocky to “academic” in the 90’s but assymetrical?

Austin Gray|
October 12, 2006 at 2:12 pm |

[quote comment=”13319″][quote comment=”13314″]I’d like to see Arizona go back to the asymmetrical white helmet, too.[/quote]
Assymetrical how? I thought it was just an A on both sides. I know the A changed from blocky to “academic” in the 90’s but assymetrical?[/quote]

I think he’s referring to the stripe that went down the center of the helmet. One side of the stripe was blue, the other was red. While the helmet logos were the same on each side, the stripe was not.

Chris Hilf|
October 12, 2006 at 2:13 pm |

[quote comment=”13261″][quote comment=”13255″]Any truth to the rumor that the Angels may sport new scarlet alternate jerseys next season?[/quote]

Yes, they will. Unlees by scarlett you mean a different shade than their primary red color.

The Pirates will go red also.[/quote]

Hello! What? I don’t think so. The Buccos were pretty insistent on sweeping all of the red out of the house a year or two ago, I don’t think it will be making a ocmeback any time soon.

Paul, please, please tell me I’m not wrong….

bud|
October 12, 2006 at 2:15 pm |

in response to the question terrible helmets:

maryland
florida
unc (just doesnt translate on a helmet)
wyoming
pitt(not that its that bad, but they were so good back in the old days)

part of me also doesnt like schools like georgia that use logos used by pro teams. it may look nice, and now it would be hard to change, but kudos for an original design.

and can’t we all agree that script on the side of a helmet is bad in general? i’ll give a free pass to pitt way back when.

Kerry|
October 12, 2006 at 2:17 pm |

[quote comment=”13229″]The New Orleans Saints reportedly will be wearing new uniforms next season. Head coach Sean Payton applied with the NFL for a uniform change this season but the NFL requires at least a one year heads-up. Any ideas or inside scoop as to what the Saints will be wearing next season? I wish they would go with a single black helmet stripe or do away with the helmet stripe entirely; or maybe add a contrasting trim color to the uniform.[/quote]
NOT going to happen. According to Saints GM Mickey Loomis on a local talk show, he stated that the team did NOT put in a request to change their uniforms before the June/July deadline to do so meaning the EARLIEST the franchise would change unis would be the 2008 season. Additionally, Loomis also stated that there are NO intentions to change uniforms any time in the forseeable future.

Tom|
October 12, 2006 at 2:18 pm |

[quote comment=”13324″][quote comment=”13319″][quote comment=”13314″]I’d like to see Arizona go back to the asymmetrical white helmet, too.[/quote]
Assymetrical how? I thought it was just an A on both sides. I know the A changed from blocky to “academic” in the 90’s but assymetrical?[/quote]

I think he’s referring to the stripe that went down the center of the helmet. One side of the stripe was blue, the other was red. While the helmet logos were the same on each side, the stripe was not.[/quote]

Yeah, I meant the stripes. Virginia could go back to it, too, but the helmets they have now are pretty damn solid.

i’m both excited and nervous about ANY changes to the Saints uniforms…

they are one of my alltime favorites. the throwback ones i love and the kinda older ones with the LA state outline on the pants i love, too…

my only problem with it is its an OBVIOUS attempt to grab more cash.

first there was the Reggie Bush #5
then the REAL Reggie Bush uni.
so i guess now that everyone has one or the other they are going to need the NEW Reggie Bush uni…

ugh.

i really hope they incorporate some Katrina memory, be it the date or something, in the uni, ala the Bears and the Halas letters on the sleeve.

maybe that’d be in bad taste as they try to rebuild, though? huh. not sure. i’ll think more on that.[/quote]

Personally, if I were Saints fan (and who isn’t at this point), I would be nervous about this. Just look at how most of the recent uni redesigns have gone: Vikes, Bills, Broncos, Bengals, Lions… all atrocious. None of them can hold a candle to this – helmet stripe or not.

If they start messing with them, recent history says it’s going to get ugly.[/quote]

The recent changes are not that bad except for the side panels on the jersey. If you could remove that like the Jaguars did years ago you’re left with nice uniform. Except the Lions only added black and it was not really necessary.

Patrick O'Donnell|
October 12, 2006 at 2:32 pm |

Yes.

Ever since Nike (allegedly) made Ronaldo play in the World Cup Final (2002?) every football (soccer) player who has been the focus of Nike’s advertising campaigns has been less successful after than before.

… and LETS GO METS.[/quote]
To say that Nike made Ronaldo play in the World Cup Final is the most ignorant and ridiculous thing I’ve heard in a long time. Maybe, just maybe, he just wanted to play because it’s the freaking WORLD CUP FINAL. You know, the one that BILLIONS of people would love to play in. Oh yeah, and forget the fact that he scored both goals to win the game. Yeah, did Nike FORCE him to do that too?

The quote tags were deleted in post 92. The quote was from John in Athens.

Patrick O'Donnell|
October 12, 2006 at 2:40 pm |

[quote comment=”13264″][quote comment=”13257″]

Let’s not be a Nike apologist, everyone that’s anyone in World Football knows that Nike is a ‘johnny come lately’ onto the world football scene and can’t hold adidas’ jock when it comes to the beautiful game. Nike should continue outfitting clowns like Oregon Univ. and those overrated fools from Jogo Bonito and let the rest of the footballing community alone and stop inflicting all those stupid cookie cutter kits that only appeal to silly short attention spanned 12 years old.
There, I said.[/quote]

Sure Nike is fairly new to soccer, but everybody has to start somewhere. Everybody here raves about Under Armour, but that company was startedafter Nike took soccer seriously, and none of the anti-Nike myopics call UA a “johnny come lately”.[/quote]
I couldn’t have said it any better myself.

Well, shee-ut. You guys have been very busy today. Work productivity must be way down.

First off, Paul, you are the creator of the Ditch the B**** campaign—didn’t that score you a sweatshirt or a hoodie? Although, truth to be told, I can’t see you in a hoodie.

Second, those Nike undershirts are just nasty. They have the ‘bra’ because of the enlarged boobs the guys who wear them have from all the steroid use.

Wow. That was a really convoluted sentence. Sorry, guys, but my flu-fogged brain isn’t working very well right now.

Third, Natron, when I saw the Gophers throwback, my first thought was, “Wow, they’ve had that huge swoosh all this time?” Thank you for clearing that up.

Fourth, you know what’s great about this board? So many differing opinions, but all united by our obsessive uni watching. It’s a beautiful thing.

This Kumbayah moment brought to you by Kodak. We now return you to your regularly-scheduled bickering.

Mr. Met|
October 12, 2006 at 2:55 pm |

[quote comment=”13237″]PL: WeatherÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s supposed to be a lot colder that day, which among other things will put a serious crimp in my plans to wear a Ditch the Black T-shirt Ã¢â‚¬” dang.

Get a sweet Nike dot-matrix long sleeve undershirt to wear beneath your DTB gear. Duh! Actually it looks like those might not be available to us mortals quite yet.[/quote]
The ESPN Shop has them. So now we mortals can feel like real ballplayers. Or at least dress like them.

Shane|
October 12, 2006 at 2:57 pm |

[quote comment=”13230″]I think they should leave them – just go back to wearing black at home. There’s nothing wrong with the unis they have, they’re still classics.[/quote]

With our luck, they’ll bust out some sort of hideous gold alternate jersey.

Kerry|
October 12, 2006 at 3:04 pm |

[quote comment=”13245″]first there was the Reggie Bush #5
then the REAL Reggie Bush uni.
so i guess now that everyone has one or the other they are going to need the NEW Reggie Bush uni…

[quote comment=”13256″][quote comment=”13218″]The “latest” in the Nike curse? Are you serious? For every “cursed” player in Nike campaigns, there are a dozen MVPs, world champions, and once in a lifetime athletes. How’s that curse on Tiger Woods? Or Michael Jordan? Or any of a thousand other athletes? And for the record, Wayne Rooney’s suspensions and subsequent missed games caused his TEMPORARY drop in form. He has been with Nike for a while now, and he was playing fine before the suspension. Mark, I’ll bet you are a Cubs fan and you blame Bartman for the Cubs’ terrible “luck.”[/quote]

It’s a soccer-specific curse. Witness Ronaldinho’s performance in the WC this year while he was all over the telly in Nike’s “Joga Bonito” ads. Plus, Rooney had the foot injury to come back from right before the WC.[/quote]
Oh! It’s a SOCCER SPECIFIC curse! THAT makes it a whole lot less ridiculous! Are you kidding?!…I guess leading your team to win La Liga and the Champions League in the same year doesn’t count against the “curse?”

I must say that I absolutely LOVE that the Saints decided to use THIS LOGO as a patch on the jerseys this season. And I would LOVE to see the logo incorporated back into the unis A LA late 1980s Style.

Like I stated in an earlier post, the Saints GM – Mickey Loomis – stated on local New Orleans radio that the team will NOT have any changes to the uniforms in the near future. That being said, if they did ever change I would NVER want to see THIS AGAIN – OR THIS!! Stupid Mike Ditka!!!

[quote comment=”13259″]My memory may be playing tricks on me, but I seem to recall that at least a couple of basketball players (I can’t recall who, or even if it was college or NBA) wore ordinary rubber bands (the office-supply variety) around their wrists. I recall this from at least 5 or 6 years ago, maybe earlier, so the reference to “those rubber bands” may refer to more than just Livestrong-type thingies.[/quote]

Charles Barkley used to wear a rubber band around his left wrist when he was with the Rockets, and possibly before that.

Let’s not be a Nike apologist, everyone that’s anyone in World Football knows that Nike is a ‘johnny come lately’ onto the world football scene and can’t hold adidas’ jock when it comes to the beautiful game. Nike should continue outfitting clowns like Oregon Univ. and those overrated fools from Jogo Bonito and let the rest of the footballing community alone and stop inflicting all those stupid cookie cutter kits that only appeal to silly short attention spanned 12 years old.
There, I said.[/quote]

Sure Nike is fairly new to soccer, but everybody has to start somewhere. Everybody here raves about Under Armour, but that company was startedafter Nike took soccer seriously, and none of the anti-Nike myopics call UA a “johnny come lately”.[/quote]

I call UnderArmour a Johnny come lately, especially to baseball where Nike definitely has a leg up on them.

Scott|
October 12, 2006 at 3:45 pm |

Finally someone put LSU on the best helmet list. That design hasn’t changed and I hope it never does. That gold with the purple face mask and the tiger on the side. (Not to mention the white stripe on the top matches the white jerseys they prefer to wear). By the way, does anyone know why teams, LSU is the only one i can think of at the moment, only buckle their chinstraps on the bottom 2 snaps? The only time an LSU player has the high hook up chin strap is when it is one of those with the 3 snaps. Just wanted to know if it was for safety purposes or something.

I see where you’re going with the “shape of the state” thing, but have you actually looked at the state? The northern pan-handle would be kinda tough to work into the logo.

At least our overall unis are still better than Syracuse. I was watching their game last weekend with some non-uni watchers, and one of the guys actually said, “those are horrible, I though the color on the TV was messed up, but those are actually thier uniforms!”[/quote]

As a Marshall fan and WV native (and WVU-hater) I do like WVU’s helmets. Their old uniforms were pretty classic, but the new look is too cookie cutter. The ‘Eers are too good a team right now to be toiling around in their Cal-lookalike unis. Time to step up the uni to the helmet’s standards.

Bob|
October 12, 2006 at 3:51 pm |

maybe bradley got his inspiration from our favorite uni watch player

Natron|
October 12, 2006 at 3:53 pm |

[quote comment=”13344″][quote comment=”13230″]I think they should leave them – just go back to wearing black at home. There’s nothing wrong with the unis they have, they’re still classics.[/quote]

With our luck, they’ll bust out some sort of hideous gold alternate jersey.[/quote]

Gold?!?! Can you imagine how goofy the Saints would look in a gold jersey?

dchis|
October 12, 2006 at 3:56 pm |

[quote comment=”13342″]
First off, Paul, you are the creator of the Ditch the B**** campaign—didn’t that score you a sweatshirt or a hoodie? quote]

Speakin of the hated “BLACK ALTERNATES”… We should not forget the other Championship Series contender that also started the fad. The Oakland Athletics. I’m not sure if they have worn it this year but I don’t think they have. Well I was able to find Mark Mulder with the black jersey and hat.

Natron|
October 12, 2006 at 3:56 pm |

[quote comment=”13342″]

Third, Natron, when I saw the Gophers throwback, my first thought was, “Wow, they’ve had that huge swoosh all this time?” Thank you for clearing that up.

[/quote]

Yeah, I was pretty geeked (do the kids still say that?) when I first heard about the throwbacks – I always liked the white helmets – but when I saw the swooshes, I wasn’t quite as thrilled.

Guess I should have known.

dchis|
October 12, 2006 at 3:58 pm |

[quote comment=”13363″][quote comment=”13342″]
First off, Paul, you are the creator of the Ditch the B**** campaign—didn’t that score you a sweatshirt or a hoodie? quote]

Speakin of the hated “BLACK ALTERNATES”… We should not forget the other Championship Series contender that also started the fad. The Oakland Athletics. I’m not sure if they have worn it this year but I don’t think they have. Well I was able to find Mark Mulder with the black jersey and hat. [/quote]

[quote comment=”13356″][quote comment=”13259″]My memory may be playing tricks on me, but I seem to recall that at least a couple of basketball players (I can’t recall who, or even if it was college or NBA) wore ordinary rubber bands (the office-supply variety) around their wrists. I recall this from at least 5 or 6 years ago, maybe earlier, so the reference to “those rubber bands” may refer to more than just Livestrong-type thingies.[/quote]

Charles Barkley used to wear a rubber band around his left wrist when he was with the Rockets, and possibly before that.

I know that Maurice Cheeks used to wear a rubber band on his wrist as well(no pic) and he would snap himself if he made a bad play.

Natron|
October 12, 2006 at 4:02 pm |

[quote comment=”13366″][quote comment=”13363″][quote comment=”13342″]
First off, Paul, you are the creator of the Ditch the B**** campaign—didn’t that score you a sweatshirt or a hoodie? quote]

Speakin of the hated “BLACK ALTERNATES”… We should not forget the other Championship Series contender that also started the fad. The Oakland Athletics. I’m not sure if they have worn it this year but I don’t think they have. Well I was able to find Mark Mulder with the black jersey and hat. [/quote]

I read a quote from a sportswriter who claimed that those jerseys looked like “shower mold”… can’t remember who that was though.

Kerry|
October 12, 2006 at 4:03 pm |

[quote comment=”13362″][quote comment=”13344″][quote comment=”13230″]I think they should leave them – just go back to wearing black at home. There’s nothing wrong with the unis they have, they’re still classics.[/quote]

With our luck, they’ll bust out some sort of hideous gold alternate jersey.[/quote]

Gold?!?! Can you imagine how goofy the Saints would look in a gold jersey?[/quote]
Sadly there is no imagining necessary!!!! And, adding insult to injury are those HIDEOUS SOLID BLACK PANTS!!!! Again….I hate you Mike Ditka!

Kerry|
October 12, 2006 at 4:05 pm |

[quote comment=”13359″]Finally someone put LSU on the best helmet list. That design hasn’t changed and I hope it never does. That gold with the purple face mask and the tiger on the side. (Not to mention the white stripe on the top matches the white jerseys they prefer to wear). By the way, does anyone know why teams, LSU is the only one i can think of at the moment, only buckle their chinstraps on the bottom 2 snaps? The only time an LSU player has the high hook up chin strap is when it is one of those with the 3 snaps. Just wanted to know if it was for safety purposes or something.[/quote]
I’m a stickler for helmets that don’t change much over time. I think that LSU has one of the best overall uniforms in all of college football. And using a helmet that hasn’t changed since it’s introduction in 1977 (except for the coloration of the facemask to purple from gray – and the one time white helmet) DEFINITELY gives the Tigers extra points in my book!

Minna H|
October 12, 2006 at 4:07 pm |

[quote comment=”13364″]
Yeah, I was pretty geeked (do the kids still say that?) when I first heard about the throwbacks – I always liked the white helmets – but when I saw the swooshes, I wasn’t quite as thrilled.

Guess I should have known.[/quote]

Not sure what the kids say these days, but the Swoosh put a damper on my enthusiasm as well. Would it have killed them not to add it for once? Sheesh. Excuse me, but I have to go chase some kids off my lawn now….

ACC|
October 12, 2006 at 4:09 pm |

The Golds aren’t that bad by themselves – when matched against another jersey it gets a little busy. I don’t mind the look.

What I do mind is Ditka coaching again. That guy is an idiot and I loved how they made the playoffs as soon as he was fired.

Natron|
October 12, 2006 at 4:10 pm |

[quote comment=”13370″][quote comment=”13362″][quote comment=”13344″][quote comment=”13230″]I think they should leave them – just go back to wearing black at home. There’s nothing wrong with the unis they have, they’re still classics.[/quote]

With our luck, they’ll bust out some sort of hideous gold alternate jersey.[/quote]

Gold?!?! Can you imagine how goofy the Saints would look in a gold jersey?[/quote]
Sadly there is no imagining necessary!!!! And, adding insult to injury are those HIDEOUS SOLID BLACK PANTS!!!! Again….I hate you Mike Ditka![/quote]

First off has anyone else noticed that kenny rogers pitches while weraaing the BP hats instead of the gameday hats?

Second of all, I dont know if anyone mentioned this, but I know every year MLB tries to capitalize in the merchandice department by issuing yearly playoff hoodies for each team, but this year they seem to have also issued newer thinner versions of the fleeces that have been around for the last three seasons, which a short sleeve version as well (I guess to keep the players from cutting the sleeves which many of them do to the long sleeve ones)

anyone have anything on those two points… pictures ?

Kerry|
October 12, 2006 at 4:15 pm |

[quote comment=”13373″]The Golds aren’t that bad by themselves – when matched against another jersey it gets a little busy. I don’t mind the look.

What I do mind is Ditka coaching again. That guy is an idiot and I loved how they made the playoffs as soon as he was fired.[/quote]
The problems I had were:1] The jersey gold was a different shade than the helmets.2]Solid black pants SUCK!

Phil|
October 12, 2006 at 4:17 pm |

All you N.O. people complaining about gold jerseys and black pants (not necessarily together). Be careful, it just might make Drew Brees feel like he’s back at Purdue. So don’t go too far and make him mad.

Natron|
October 12, 2006 at 4:18 pm |

[quote comment=”13375″]A couple things…

First off has anyone else noticed that kenny rogers pitches while weraaing the BP hats instead of the gameday hats?

Second of all, I dont know if anyone mentioned this, but I know every year MLB tries to capitalize in the merchandice department by issuing yearly playoff hoodies for each team, but this year they seem to have also issued newer thinner versions of the fleeces that have been around for the last three seasons, which a short sleeve version as well (I guess to keep the players from cutting the sleeves which many of them do to the long sleeve ones)

anyone have anything on those two points… pictures ?[/quote]

In fact, the Kenny Rogers hat thingy was outlined in the Uni Watch Ticker on 6/25/06. There are pictures within that post (although not great photographic evidence).

Kerry|
October 12, 2006 at 4:24 pm |

[quote comment=”13377″]All you N.O. people complaining about gold jerseys and black pants (not necessarily together). Be careful, it just might make Drew Brees feel like he’s back at Purdue. So don’t go too far and make him mad.[/quote]
How’s that? The current color-scheme he wears is what he predominately wore at Purdue?!HEREHEREAGAIN

Jean|
October 12, 2006 at 4:35 pm |

Where did you get the information of the Angels and Pirates changing colors??

Brooks Reuter|
October 12, 2006 at 4:36 pm |

[quote comment=”13364″][quote comment=”13342″]

Third, Natron, when I saw the Gophers throwback, my first thought was, “Wow, they’ve had that huge swoosh all this time?” Thank you for clearing that up.

[/quote]

Yeah, I was pretty geeked (do the kids still say that?) when I first heard about the throwbacks – I always liked the white helmets – but when I saw the swooshes, I wasn’t quite as thrilled.

Guess I should have known.[/quote]

Yes “geeked” is a term still being used, it is however used to describe being high on cocaine

jesse|
October 12, 2006 at 4:36 pm |

I think that Purdue wore gold jerseys for a season when Drew Brees played there.

Natron|
October 12, 2006 at 4:41 pm |

[quote comment=”13383″][quote comment=”13364″][quote comment=”13342″]

Third, Natron, when I saw the Gophers throwback, my first thought was, “Wow, they’ve had that huge swoosh all this time?” Thank you for clearing that up.

[/quote]

Yeah, I was pretty geeked (do the kids still say that?) when I first heard about the throwbacks – I always liked the white helmets – but when I saw the swooshes, I wasn’t quite as thrilled.

Guess I should have known.[/quote]

Yes “geeked” is a term still being used, it is however used to describe being high on cocaine[/quote]

Good, then I used it correctly. Darryl and I go back a long way… big Gopher fan, that Darryl.

I checked they did although I am not sure that Drew Brees wore it. They may have come later.

Kevin|
October 12, 2006 at 4:44 pm |

[quote comment=”13267″]i don’t have a screen grab but did anyone see todd jones untuck his jersey last night in the middle of his interview on fox? i guess i can understand since he probably would have had to wait about 1-2 minutes before he was off the field. that’s quite a long time to keep the shirt tucked in.[/quote]

Yeah, he showed the whole world his flabby, hairy stomach. Maybe he read Uni Watch the other day while we were discussing athletes showing their midriffs.

West Virinians will make that gesture to create a make-shift map to explain where places within the state are. “It’s north of Wheeling, just past my knuckle”.

And usually it’s the visitors making that gesture at the mountaineer fans during the games.[/quote]

LOL at the hand gesture… as a Pitt fan I have used it often with regard to our dear friends to the south!

Best helmets in D-I, no particular order:
West Virginia
Washington State
Michigan
Colorado
Auburn

On a tangent, helmet quiz question of the day:
Miami of Florida’s helmets have a “U” emblem because:
a) It signifies “The (U)niversity
b) It’s the only letter UM football players know how to write
c) “N” was already taken by Nebraska
d) The upraised sides of the U are a nod to Miami’s thug past: “Come out with your hands up!”

Timmy B|
October 12, 2006 at 4:51 pm |

[quote comment=”13229″]The New Orleans Saints reportedly will be wearing new uniforms next season. Head coach Sean Payton applied with the NFL for a uniform change this season but the NFL requires at least a one year heads-up. Any ideas or inside scoop as to what the Saints will be wearing next season? I wish they would go with a single black helmet stripe or do away with the helmet stripe entirely; or maybe add a contrasting trim color to the uniform.[/quote]

While I’m not doubting the Saints may be thinking of a new look, I’ve never heard of the head coach applying to the league for the change. Doesn’t the owner usually handle these tasks????

Kerry|
October 12, 2006 at 4:53 pm |

[quote comment=”13388″]I checked they did although I am not sure that Drew Brees wore it. They may have come later.[/quote]
Brees was at Purdue from 1997 through 2000. The picture you have a link to is from 2002. I have not found ANY pictures of him wearing a gold jersey while at Purdue. He did wear THIS SWEET throwback jersey while there – which would have looked even BETTER sans swoosh.

Kerry|
October 12, 2006 at 4:55 pm |

[quote comment=”13391″][quote comment=”13229″]The New Orleans Saints reportedly will be wearing new uniforms next season. Head coach Sean Payton applied with the NFL for a uniform change this season but the NFL requires at least a one year heads-up. Any ideas or inside scoop as to what the Saints will be wearing next season? I wish they would go with a single black helmet stripe or do away with the helmet stripe entirely; or maybe add a contrasting trim color to the uniform.[/quote]

While I’m not doubting the Saints may be thinking of a new look, I’ve never heard of the head coach applying to the league for the change. Doesn’t the owner usually handle these tasks????[/quote]
PLEASE read comment #88 in reference to this issue.

Kenny|
October 12, 2006 at 4:55 pm |

[quote comment=”13370″][quote comment=”13362″][quote comment=”13344″][quote comment=”13230″]I think they should leave them – just go back to wearing black at home. There’s nothing wrong with the unis they have, they’re still classics.[/quote]

With our luck, they’ll bust out some sort of hideous gold alternate jersey.[/quote]

Gold?!?! Can you imagine how goofy the Saints would look in a gold jersey?[/quote]
Sadly there is no imagining necessary!!!! And, adding insult to injury are those HIDEOUS SOLID BLACK PANTS!!!! Again….I hate you Mike Ditka![/quote]

The only reason you have a reason to hate DA COACH is because he traded the horse and carriage for rickey williams. However, the Bears fans have plenty to love DA COACH about especially when he wore this sweater

Kerry|
October 12, 2006 at 4:59 pm |

[quote comment=”13387″]Of your top 5 I agree most with Nicholls. Really cool.

FAMU’s helmet needs some work – their unis are interesting.[/quote]
I must admit that it is sort of a “homer” pick on my part since it is one of my alma maters. HOWEVER, I have ALWAYS liked the helmets/logo – new and old – and felt that it is one of the best in college athletics.

Timmy B|
October 12, 2006 at 4:59 pm |

[quote comment=”13380″]Where did you get the information of the Angels and Pirates changing colors??[/quote]

This was reported in USA Today’s “Sports Weekly” a few weeks ago. In was included in an article that was mentioning the Diamondbacks uniform changes.

nastykjn|
October 12, 2006 at 5:01 pm |

[quote comment=”13391″]While IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m not doubting the Saints may be thinking of a new look, IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve never heard of the head coach applying to the league for the change. DoesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t the owner usually handle these tasks????
[/quote]

God forbid this man, (and I use the term loosely…I think “Lucifer” is more apropo), handles anything. Hate is such a strong word that I believe it correctly identifies how I feel about him.

Kerry|
October 12, 2006 at 5:02 pm |

[quote comment=”13394″][quote comment=”13370″][quote comment=”13362″][quote comment=”13344″][quote comment=”13230″]I think they should leave them – just go back to wearing black at home. There’s nothing wrong with the unis they have, they’re still classics.[/quote]

With our luck, they’ll bust out some sort of hideous gold alternate jersey.[/quote]

Gold?!?! Can you imagine how goofy the Saints would look in a gold jersey?[/quote]
Sadly there is no imagining necessary!!!! And, adding insult to injury are those HIDEOUS SOLID BLACK PANTS!!!! Again….I hate you Mike Ditka![/quote]

The only reason you have a reason to hate DA COACH is because he traded the horse and carriage for rickey williams. However, the Bears fans have plenty to love DA COACH about especially when he wore this sweater[/quote]
No…I don’t really hate Ditka. I liked that the Saints went out and got him…I actually thought that Ricky was going to be a STUD back in the NFL (I know….STUPID ME). But I just HATE the fact that he messed with the uniforms SO MUCH!

Timmy B|
October 12, 2006 at 5:04 pm |

[quote comment=”13393″][quote comment=”13391″][quote comment=”13229″]The New Orleans Saints reportedly will be wearing new uniforms next season. Head coach Sean Payton applied with the NFL for a uniform change this season but the NFL requires at least a one year heads-up. Any ideas or inside scoop as to what the Saints will be wearing next season? I wish they would go with a single black helmet stripe or do away with the helmet stripe entirely; or maybe add a contrasting trim color to the uniform.[/quote]

While I’m not doubting the Saints may be thinking of a new look, I’ve never heard of the head coach applying to the league for the change. Doesn’t the owner usually handle these tasks????[/quote]
PLEASE read comment #88 in reference to this issue.[/quote]

Thanks. I just always thought ownership handled something as huge as a logo or uniform change, not a head coach. As if coaches don’t have enough on their plate.

Kerry|
October 12, 2006 at 5:06 pm |

[quote comment=”13391″]While I’m not doubting the Saints may be thinking of a new look, I’ve never heard of the head coach applying to the league for the change. Doesn’t the owner usually handle these tasks????[/quote]
Technically speaking, I think it is the “team” that requests a uniform change rather than a specific person within an organization.

Phil|
October 12, 2006 at 5:07 pm |

Was Ditka rooting for West Virginia in that picture?

Tim D|
October 12, 2006 at 5:07 pm |

First off….GO CARDINALS …
I don’t understand why N.O. would want to change the Saints uni’s… I have always thought they were some of the best looking in the NFL. I also liked the black pants with the white jersey’s and the gold helmets they used to where. Looked pretty cool to me. I don’t think you will see them changing anyting on that uniform…OH…except the Louisiana state logo to California when they move to LA in a year or so. :)

Chistopher|
October 12, 2006 at 5:16 pm |

ItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a soccer-specific curse. Witness RonaldinhoÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s performance in the WC this year while he was all over the telly in NikeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Ã¢â‚¬Å“Joga BonitoÃ¢â‚¬Â ads. Plus, Rooney had the foot injury to come back from right before the WC.

Oh! ItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a SOCCER SPECIFIC curse! THAT makes it a whole lot less ridiculous! Are you kidding?!Ã¢â‚¬Â¦I guess leading your team to win La Liga and the Champions League in the same year doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t count against the Ã¢â‚¬Å“curse?Ã¢â‚¬Â

He won La Liga and the Champions league before appearing in the add campaign. After the campaign in the WC and in the ensuing La Liga season he has been very out of sorts compared to earlier. Another player who had the same thing happen is Zlatan Ibrahimovitch who plays for Sweden and AC Milan. He appeared in the Nike add campaign and did a disappearing act in the WC and his serie A campaign hasn’t been too successful either. Also there’s the matter of Landon Donovan and Damarcus Beasley who were featured in tons of Nike ads for the US and they were our to worst disapointments of the tourney. Now Donovan’s team the LA Galaxy didn’t even make the play offs. I’d call it a soccer specific curse, kind of like Madden curse and football.
Finally I’d like to point out that the 94 Germany jersey is possibly the greatest Jersey ever made. You will need to scroll down on the page slightly. These are jerseys that people either love or they hate and I would love to get one of these. I probably formated the link wrong. We’ll seehttp://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=391351

Kerry|
October 12, 2006 at 5:22 pm |

[quote comment=”13387″]Of your top 5 I agree most with Nicholls. Really cool.[/quote]
Here are a few pictures of what I consider – IMHO – the best I-AA helmets in college football:IMAGE 1IMAGE 2

[quote comment=”13218″]Mark, I’ll bet you are a Cubs fan and you blame Bartman for the Cubs’ terrible “luck.”[/quote]

Hey, gentle — I didn’t write the article, did I? I just passed some anti-Nike stuff over to the boss, that’s it.

(Err, I am a Cubs fan, and I generally blame the Tribune Co., but that’s neither here nor there)

Fred Gherkin|
October 12, 2006 at 5:45 pm |

[quote comment=”13371″][quote comment=”13359″]Finally someone put LSU on the best helmet list. That design hasn’t changed and I hope it never does. That gold with the purple face mask and the tiger on the side. (Not to mention the white stripe on the top matches the white jerseys they prefer to wear). By the way, does anyone know why teams, LSU is the only one i can think of at the moment, only buckle their chinstraps on the bottom 2 snaps? The only time an LSU player has the high hook up chin strap is when it is one of those with the 3 snaps. Just wanted to know if it was for safety purposes or something.[/quote]
I’m a stickler for helmets that don’t change much over time. I think that LSU has one of the best overall uniforms in all of college football. And using a helmet that hasn’t changed since it’s introduction in 1977 (except for the coloration of the facemask to purple from gray – and the one time white helmet) DEFINITELY gives the Tigers extra points in my book![/quote]
But yet you have Nebraska’s helmet in the bottom five IA helmets and they haven’t changed since 1970(except for the facemask, of course). Simple, but a fine helmet indeed.
Really, though, I agree with your list other than that. Different helmet tastes are (hopefully) welcomed.

nastykjn|
October 12, 2006 at 5:54 pm |

[quote comment=”13408″]First offÃ¢â‚¬Â¦.GO CARDINALS Ã¢â‚¬Â¦
I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t understand why N.O. would want to change the Saints uniÃ¢â‚¬â„¢sÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ I have always thought they were some of the best looking in the NFL. I also liked the black pants with the white jerseyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s and the gold helmets they used to where. Looked pretty cool to me. I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t think you will see them changing anyting on that uniformÃ¢â‚¬Â¦OHÃ¢â‚¬Â¦except the Louisiana state logo to California when they move to LA in a year or so. :)
[/quote]

BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!

(By the way, the three best helmets in D-1A are LSU, Nicholls, and ULL).

Taylor|
October 12, 2006 at 5:56 pm |

Just out of curiosity, does anybody on here actually like Nike? I think they made some really good uniforms as recent as 5 years ago, but since then it’s been rough.

[quote comment=”13419″]Just out of curiosity, does anybody on here actually like Nike? I think they made some really good uniforms as recent as 5 years ago, but since then it’s been rough.[/quote]

I will stand up and say that, in general, I like Nike. I understand and (to a point) agree with the branding issues that Paul often brings up, but from a strictly design standpoint, I think they get it right more often than they get it wrong. If anything, I would say they have improved in the last five years. I have always hated the Broncos unis, and I don’t generally like the template they use for it. But the newest Nike college football uniforms with the piping – Clemson, Missouri, Arizona, Illinois – look pretty sharp. They are clean and modern without looking garish (see any uniform the NFL has designed in the last three years).

Nike’s college basketball uniforms are also solid, and their international soccer uniforms are some of the cleanest, sharpest,and most reverent uniforms currently available. Do they step out of line? Sure. I think Oregon’s cross-hatch things are idiotic, and I think the halftone pattern on the MLB undershirts unnecessary. Overall, though, I think they get more than a passing grade.

MetsFan AZ|
October 12, 2006 at 6:28 pm |

[quote comment=”13421″][quote comment=”13419″]Just out of curiosity, does anybody on here actually like Nike? I think they made some really good uniforms as recent as 5 years ago, but since then it’s been rough.[/quote]

I will stand up and say that, in general, I like Nike. I understand and (to a point) agree with the branding issues that Paul often brings up, but from a strictly design standpoint, I think they get it right more often than they get it wrong. If anything, I would say they have improved in the last five years. I have always hated the Broncos unis, and I don’t generally like the template they use for it. But the newest Nike college football uniforms with the piping – Clemson, Missouri, Arizona, Illinois – look pretty sharp. They are clean and modern without looking garish (see any uniform the NFL has designed in the last three years).

Nike’s college basketball uniforms are also solid, and their international soccer uniforms are some of the cleanest, sharpest,and most reverent uniforms currently available. Do they step out of line? Sure. I think Oregon’s cross-hatch things are idiotic, and I think the halftone pattern on the MLB undershirts unnecessary. Overall, though, I think they get more than a passing grade.[/quote]
I respectfully disagree. I don’t think it’s in anyone’s best interest for teams to look like other teams with the exception of color. For example, U of Arizona looks exactly like Miami just blue and red. It’s kind of like MS Paint where you click on the bucket and change the colors in one fell swoop. What’s puzzling is that not all teams subscribe to the template thinking, e.g USC. Does the conversation go “want to look like Miami?” “um, sure.” or “no thanks.” What I do like about Nike is that they try to make fabrics, unis, equipment that is better for the players and the game. The Oregon unis, while hideous, incorporate lots of these features. (being in Tucson the water cooled jersey on the sideline seems like a good idea).
feel free to hand back any and all of my 2 cents.

Chuck Ryals|
October 12, 2006 at 6:46 pm |

[quote comment=”13229″]The New Orleans Saints reportedly will be wearing new uniforms next season. Head coach Sean Payton applied with the NFL for a uniform change this season but the NFL requires at least a one year heads-up. Any ideas or inside scoop as to what the Saints will be wearing next season? I wish they would go with a single black helmet stripe or do away with the helmet stripe entirely; or maybe add a contrasting trim color to the uniform.[/quote]

why? the Saints unis are fine! oh boy, I see a Broncos, Vikings thing here, messing up a good thing with awful new togs.

Minna H|
October 12, 2006 at 6:49 pm |

[quote comment=”13422]I respectfully disagree. I don’t think it’s in anyone’s best interest for teams to look like other teams with the exception of color. For example, U of Arizona looks exactly like Miami just blue and red. It’s kind of like MS Paint where you click on the bucket and change the colors in one fell swoop. What’s puzzling is that not all teams subscribe to the template thinking, e.g USC. Does the conversation go “want to look like Miami?” “um, sure.” or “no thanks.” What I do like about Nike is that they try to make fabrics, unis, equipment that is better for the players and the game. The Oregon unis, while hideous, incorporate lots of these features. (being in Tucson the water cooled jersey on the sideline seems like a good idea).
feel free to hand back any and all of my 2 cents.[/quote]

I agree with this Mets fan. I have many gripes about Nike, and this is a big one. Players are playing for a school—not for Team Nike. It’s sad when a uniform is more recognizable as a Nike uni than as fill-in-the-blank university uni.

It was even worse in tennis for the US Open when several Nike players wore the same outfit. They aren’t the only offender, but they are the most well-known.

So you are saying that you like the YSU helmets because of the logo, “Pete Penguin?”…seems to me however they only sport a plain white “Y.”

Tako|
October 12, 2006 at 7:10 pm |

[quote comment=”13268″]Did anyone see the Ã¢â‚¬Å“Stunna ShadesÃ¢â‚¬Â that Milton Bradley was wearing in the field last night? I canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t seem to find a picture of it but I think they are a major improvement over the flip up style. Also I thought that these were not allowed or is that only for pitchers?

bradley’s shades technically weren’t big enough or ridiculous enough to be classified as “stunna shades,” but they definitely looked out of place on a baseball field

Micah|
October 12, 2006 at 7:37 pm |

a arauz said something about Nike not being able “to hold adidas’ jock.” On the contrary, Nike holds 42% of the world’s soccer share, while adidas is holding at 38%. Looks like the “newcomer” has taken that mantle away.

Tom K|
October 12, 2006 at 7:46 pm |

Im sure this has been discussed but im really starting to hate the management of the NBA. No tights, fine, but no wristbands on the upper arm, wtf? I feel the same way about the shorts, i always were my shorts right at my knee like most NBA players would if they could i dont see what the problem is. I could understand if players were wearing like the wanna be gangsta’s where you can tell if they’re wearing shorts or pants.

and there’s nothing wrong with Mexico’s current uni. I love the ghosted Aztec print.[/quote]

You may not like the design, but it was PR genius. EVERY youth team had those jerseys for a few years. THey were new and unusual and had marketing power. Don’t forget that while what you see are pro and national teams sporting the stuff, they often move the design over to their team division. Of course, the team ones were only two colors. That german one is so ugly for all the colors (I know their the flag, but why the green??)

Oh, and I do agree on Nike boots. I hate their cleats. They are narrow and I’ve found them to be cheaply made and don’t allow for you to be wearing shinguards and socks.

I do not think it’s a coincidence that so many Nike wearers have had metatarsal injuries

The Original Lee|
October 12, 2006 at 7:58 pm |

[quote comment=”13409″]Another player who had the same thing happen is Zlatan Ibrahimovitch who plays for Sweden and AC Milan. [/quote]

if you want to come on here and talk football and have any credibility at all, get the teams right. otherwise, you just look stupid.

MILANO SIAMO NOI!

and past that. the joga bonita campaign started during the season. even more so, the ronaldinho campaign, with his shoes with the 14k gold in them, definitely came into play during the regular/champions league time. in fact, i want to say that that ad was not even part of the joga bonita but done well before it. Ronaldinho aslo had a joga bonita commercial, but again it came out in april of 06 as part of the push for the world cup, but the first one came out early in the 05/06 season, so youre argument there is invalid.

West Virinians will make that gesture to create a make-shift map to explain where places within the state are. “It’s north of Wheeling, just past my knuckle”.

And usually it’s the visitors making that gesture at the mountaineer fans during the games.[/quote]

LOL at the hand gesture… as a Pitt fan I have used it often with regard to our dear friends to the south!

Best helmets in D-I, no particular order:
West Virginia
Washington State
Michigan
Colorado
Auburn

On a tangent, helmet quiz question of the day:
Miami of Florida’s helmets have a “U” emblem because:
a) It signifies “The (U)niversity
b) It’s the only letter UM football players know how to write
c) “N” was already taken by Nebraska
d) The upraised sides of the U are a nod to Miami’s thug past: “Come out with your hands up!”[/quote]

Im gonna go with “A” but choice “D” was very enticing

Bryan|
October 12, 2006 at 9:53 pm |

I have always viewed Adidas as the traditional apparel and footwear supplier of soocer while Nike has taken hold with the new generation of players.

Bryan|
October 12, 2006 at 10:00 pm |

[quote comment=”13435″]Oh, and I do agree on Nike boots. I hate their cleats. They are narrow and I’ve found them to be cheaply made and don’t allow for you to be wearing shinguards and socks.

I do not think it’s a coincidence that so many Nike wearers have had metatarsal injuries[/quote]

I have to totally disagree with you here. Nike’s cleats always are always narrow, and so are the rest of thier sneakers and shoes. My feet feel great in Nike cleats (Air Legend Tiempo FG’s) because they fit just right. If you have wide feet buy adidas or something.

Robert|
October 12, 2006 at 11:03 pm |

[quote comment=”13309″][quote comment=”13243″]I love seeing the NBA take control of some uni-related issued. Why can’t MLB show some ‘nads and ban slacks?[/quote]

Well, I mean … we don’t REALLY want to see the players’ nads, do we? They’d probably be really hard to find, anyway, what with all the steroids and all. I … oh WAIT, you meant … oh. Right. Sorry.[/quote]

(By the way, the three best helmets in D-1A are LSU, Nicholls, and ULL)

As a somewhat recent transplant to Louisiana, I must agree with Nicholls. They were the first ballcap I bought upon moving here, and an all around classy logo. Of course Nicholls is D1-AA, and ULL should be too.

I must respectfully disagree about LSU’s headgear. It’s just too cluttered! Strangely enough, I love the white helmets they broke out for the 1997 Independence Bowl.

[quote comment=”13450″](By the way, the three best helmets in D-1A are LSU, Nicholls, and ULL)

As a somewhat recent transplant to Louisiana, I must agree with Nicholls. They were the first ballcap I bought upon moving here, and an all around classy logo. Of course Nicholls is D1-AA, and ULL should be too.

I must respectfully disagree about LSU’s headgear. It’s just too cluttered! Strangely enough, I love the white helmets they broke out for the 1997 Independence Bowl.[/quote]
Sorry, didn’t realize the Helmet Project blocks against direct linking. Scroll midway down the link in the last sentance to see the white helmets I was talking about.

Oh, and if my only problem with nike’s were that they were too narrow, let’s hope I’d have been smarte enough to wear another brand.

Stupid or not, I’ve found a lot of resistance to Nike among people who have played soccer their whole lives. Maybe it’s a purist thing. Maybe they’re snobs. But when they first entered the soccer market the stuff wasn’t good and I think that turned a lot of people off.

Kenny|
October 13, 2006 at 12:33 am |

[quote comment=”13419″]Just out of curiosity, does anybody on here actually like Nike? I think they made some really good uniforms as recent as 5 years ago, but since then it’s been rough.[/quote]

Actually I do like Nike. During the earlier classes I was taking for my Master’s, we read a lot of case studies on Nike. Brilliant marketing and advertising, but an overall disappointment on the design side. I wish they would not use the same design over and over again, but I can see what they are doing by trying to be identified easily. We do get overloaded with Nike however.

Anthony Memme|
October 13, 2006 at 12:56 am |

During the Leafs game tonight, ref Justin St. Pierre must’ve been wearing a surplus shirt from 2005-06 because it had the #72 patch on the right sleeve honouring Stephane Provost. I can’t find a picture though. Hopefully someone on here might be able to?

Richard|
October 13, 2006 at 8:06 am |

[quote comment=”13441″]http://i10.tinypic.com/4965blx.jpg

#171 link. im done using the link button.[/quote]

Those uniforms are horrible. Especially since the American Flag does not sit properly on all of the jerseys. And the black lines? When did black come in to the picture?

Patrick O'Donnell|
October 13, 2006 at 8:58 am |

[quote comment=”13437″][quote comment=”13409″]Another player who had the same thing happen is Zlatan Ibrahimovitch who plays for Sweden and AC Milan. [/quote]

if you want to come on here and talk football and have any credibility at all, get the teams right. otherwise, you just look stupid.

MILANO SIAMO NOI!

and past that. the joga bonita campaign started during the season. even more so, the ronaldinho campaign, with his shoes with the 14k gold in them, definitely came into play during the regular/champions league time. in fact, i want to say that that ad was not even part of the joga bonita but done well before it. Ronaldinho aslo had a joga bonita commercial, but again it came out in april of 06 as part of the push for the world cup, but the first one came out early in the 05/06 season, so youre argument there is invalid.[/quote]

I’m glad to see a soccer fan in here that knows what the heck they are talking about, and doesn’t buy in to conspiracy theories. Well said. JOGA BONITO!!

West Virinians will make that gesture to create a make-shift map to explain where places within the state are. “It’s north of Wheeling, just past my knuckle”.

And usually it’s the visitors making that gesture at the mountaineer fans during the games.[/quote]

LOL at the hand gesture… as a Pitt fan I have used it often with regard to our dear friends to the south!

Best helmets in D-I, no particular order:
West Virginia
Washington State
Michigan
Colorado
Auburn

On a tangent, helmet quiz question of the day:
Miami of Florida’s helmets have a “U” emblem because:
a) It signifies “The (U)niversity
b) It’s the only letter UM football players know how to write
c) “N” was already taken by Nebraska
d) The upraised sides of the U are a nod to Miami’s thug past: “Come out with your hands up!”[/quote]

Those uniforms are horrible. Especially since the American Flag does not sit properly on all of the jerseys. And the black lines? When did black come in to the picture?[/quote]

On my laptop monitor it appears that the shoulder lines are dark navy blue, which is a trim color for North Carolina. I don’t much care for that look (didn’t like it when Kentucky changed last year – along with all the Nike SEC schools) but for UNC it should be navy, not black.

Oh, and if my only problem with nike’s were that they were too narrow, let’s hope I’d have been smarte enough to wear another brand.

Stupid or not, I’ve found a lot of resistance to Nike among people who have played soccer their whole lives. Maybe it’s a purist thing. Maybe they’re snobs. But when they first entered the soccer market the stuff wasn’t good and I think that turned a lot of people off.[/quote]
Amen. You go girl. I think you captured my thinking more concisely than I could ever have.
I ‘ve been playing soccer for 35 years now, it’s always been adidas (except for a pair of Pumas -which I’ll ignore)and the one time I picked up a pair of Nikes’ they were 1. expensive ($135 for 1995) and 2. crap. ON the apparel front: when they first got into the market, they distinguished themselves by introducing clean, uncluttered garments but that has evolved into the busy, look at me stuff we see today. (I’m generalizing, of course.). I know I jumped off the deep end with the ‘can’t hold the jock’ business, and I should care about market shares, but I don’t. All I know is that i’ve been playing a long time & and what my teammates and friends tell me.

Jonathon|
October 13, 2006 at 9:56 am |

[quote comment=”13314″]I think Wake Forest should put the Demon Deacon logo on the helmet, the “WF” is kind of blah. Also, Iowa State’s helmet (which has been discussed here before) needs to be changed, IMO. I’d like to see Arizona go back to the asymmetrical white helmet, too.[/quote]

i love wake’s helmets. if waffle house ever had a team, that’s what they’d look like

Will|
October 13, 2006 at 12:55 pm |

Yes, I’m late. Sue me. Important point: Rooney is NOT a UK player. He’s an England player. The rest of the UK have their own national teams (Wales, Scotland, Norn Iron).

Since everything else is so specific and correct, this might as well be, too.

Steve Fenn|
October 19, 2006 at 7:57 am |

Don’t worry about the German national team. That is not their jersey. It belongs to the German club Bayern Munich. Look at the crest underneath the stars. Liverpool also has some assymetrical jerseys, that they are scheduled to were during champions league competitions. You can view them here: http://store.liverpoolfc.tv/ynwa/CategoryProductsAction.run
I’m not sure whether they have worn them, yet. Surely, though, Adidas is to blame, I’m sure that other great European clubs are going to be stuck wearing disjointed crap.
Speaking of soccer, why don’t you give a little analysis of the MLS, leading to their championship on Nov. 12. I know it’s a minor sport in the states, but a lot of the teams have some nice kits:http://www.mlsgear.com/category.asp?CAT=cat-jerseys&PAGE=ALL&SUBSHOP=

ej|
November 14, 2006 at 3:27 am |

[quote comment=”13363″][quote comment=”13342″]
First off, Paul, you are the creator of the Ditch the B**** campaign—didn’t that score you a sweatshirt or a hoodie? quote]

Speakin of the hated “BLACK ALTERNATES”… We should not forget the other Championship Series contender that also started the fad. The Oakland Athletics. I’m not sure if they have worn it this year but I don’t think they have. Well I was able to find Mark Mulder with the black jersey and hat. [/quote]

The black alternates were worn only in the 2000 season to honour 100 years of A’s baseball. They were a one year thing although a ton of the black hats are sold so I guess they will still make them.