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I suggest you do both, release the version crediting her, then form a team. We can ask a lot of the hackers at PC to help too.

Other members of the disbanded team are willing to help. I personally can help, I am a decent story guy and I do perform a little well in character dialogue. I can't get A-text working on my netbook though, but that's not something that will stop me.

What about the Sora sprites?

P.S.: I played DR1 and I get the essence of the story pretty well.

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Finished playing more than 45+ hacked and official Pokemon games altogether. :D
I have never tried hacking.. But I have lots of kinda "wacky" ideas for some. *sigh*

"I don't live by my name, but at least I can exceed your expectations. "

I may make Youtube walkthroughs about some games, you could suggest. I just need the appropriate tools.

Okay the guys, I've decided to upload the alpha and then let people download and play it for themselves. Then once people have played it then they can decide. I'm not sure how up to date this version is, but it's the most up to date version that we know of.

Tell me what you guys think once you've played it, I haven't played it other than the first 'cut scene' so I do not know where it ends. But once that has happened, I will form a team if that's what you all want!

As for Sora, I've no idea. Like I said I will just be resurrecting this ROM and working on it, but whatever happens story wise is up to who ever is in charge of the story

I'd be greatful if you did both...everyone would be... BUT I think that you should have DRG's permission to do this.
I'm really disappointed to know that DRG won't make a public release ( unless she changes her mind ) . I hope that your idea will work .

She did not say that she would not make a public release with 100% certainty. She said that it is a possibility, meaning she might still release the full game (but, like I said, I doubt it will be as good as it would've been if everyone continued to help her).

I really do not like this idea to be honest. You should've gotten her permission first (although that might be a little challenging given the current situation). Not to mention, the story will not be what it was intended to be. Seeing as how the storyline is apparently the strongest portion of the Dark Rising series, and with how passionate DRG seems to be about the story in her games, I think it would both end up insulting her, further encouraging her to not come back to this community, and end up with a feeling while playing the hack "Well, this is cool I guess, but I'm still not seeing the events of the game fold out in the way DRG envisioned them, so why care?" There is also no guarantee that this team you put together will have the dedication and work ethic to see the game to completion, not to mention the possibility of the content the new team comes up with having a chance to clash with the already created content. Finally, there is also the fact that the Dark Rising series is supposed to be a trilogy. How are you going to do the story and gameplay features for a game that DRG has probably not even given a single thought to, nor even started a thread for?

All pros and cons considered, this just seems like a bad idea to me. She could always come back, release the second game, then start over on the forums fresh with the third game. Maybe I'm foolish for thinking this, but I still want to hold out on the hope that she will eventually return.

She did not say that she would not make a public release with 100% certainty. She said that it is a possibility, meaning she might still release the full game (but, like I said, I doubt it will be as good as it would've been if everyone continued to help her).

I really do not like this idea to be honest. You should've gotten her permission first (although that might be a little challenging given the current situation). Not to mention, the story will not be what it was intended to be. Seeing as how the storyline is apparently the strongest portion of the Dark Rising series, and with how passionate DRG seems to be about the story in her games, I think it would both end up insulting her, further encouraging her to not come back to this community, and end up with a feeling while playing the hack "Well, this is cool I guess, but I'm still not seeing the events of the game fold out in the way DRG envisioned them, so why care?" There is also no guarantee that this team you put together will have the dedication and work ethic to see the game to completion, not to mention the possibility of the content the new team comes up with having a chance to clash with the already created content. Finally, there is also the fact that the Dark Rising series is supposed to be a trilogy. How are you going to do the story and gameplay features for a game that DRG has probably not even given a single thought to, nor even started a thread for?

All pros and cons considered, this just seems like a bad idea to me. She could always come back, release the second game, then start over on the forums fresh with the third game. Maybe I'm foolish for thinking this, but I still want to hold out on the hope that she will eventually return.

Thanks for your feedback and I completely understand, however there is no possible way to communicate with her, I had sent her Facebook and PMs. However I don't find that she will be insulted, I think that she will be happy that people enjoyed this game so much that they are willing to make their own versions. It'd be like a fan-game of a ROM hack, if you will. As it is unfinished it would be our own version of it. It won't be the exact version that she wants. It would be more of our interpretation of the notes that she has given to us. The third and final version will probably not happen as, like you said, there's no information about it at all. However, if this becomes successful, perhaps she will come back and then make the third version and she will use the team that we used to make the second version. I agree also about what you said regarding the team. But that doesn't matter. There are several fan games that have been made with people dropping out of the teams. And it will be the most dedicated people who remain to work on it. It will be like a movie adaptation of a book, given the story we will try to replicate it, but like I'm saying. I may not even make the team, but I have released the Alpha and that will be it for now.
Thanks for the feedback

As much as it's initially her hack, cancelling it without explaination after all effort you put on it is completly insulting. For this reason i don't think you should cancel all the work you did for the hack.

I agree that maybe story won't be as it was initially supposed to be, but as long as you have the main storyline and you work a lot on dialog, which is the strongest point of DR1, I think it will come out good enough.

I couldn't play too far into the game, pretty much stopped right when she presents the pokemon choices, my chick would go straight through the wall and then the professor would repeat her words and i'd go farther into the darkness. I tried to restart from outside the lab and it repeated it again. I don't know if I'm the only one getting that or not.

Also learned going into the rooms on the ship is a no no, lol you'll get battled by trainers with no pokemon your team you die pretty quickly.

I gotta say you buried any possibility of DRG releasing version here.
Releasing the version without her permission isn't nice thing to do...
And as for some team completing this hack...
Do you want Dark Rising 2 or just another hack you're gonna play?

Quote originally posted by Darkywyvern:

As much as it's initially her hack, cancelling it without explaination after all effort you put on it is completly insulting. For this reason i don't think you should cancel all the work you did for the hack.

I gotta say you buried any possibility of DRG releasing version here.
Releasing the version without her permission isn't nice thing to do...
And as for some team completing this hack...
Do you want Dark Rising 2 or just another hack you're gonna play?

I gotta say you buried any possibility of DRG releasing version here.
Releasing the version without her permission isn't nice thing to do...
And as for some team completing this hack...
Do you want Dark Rising 2 or just another hack you're gonna play?

Thanks for showing concern, but I think we can all agree that the chances of her coming back anyway are pretty slim. Like I said previously, I don't claim the version I hope to create as DRG's game. It will be a fan interpretation of DRG's game. Admitted it's a little bit malicious (not a good word choice there) but as we have seen, there was little of the game actually put onto that ROM, I for one spent a lot of time working on the game and still have all of my files left over. But as the ROM in my possession is mostly empty, that gives us a lot of space to work with. Think of it in terms of a movie. We are the directors, etc. And DRG was the one who wrote the script and the story. We just need to follow it as best we can to respect her. The idea of me resurrecting the ROM without her permission may seem like I'm trying to take credit or something, I'm not. Not at all. I simply want to enjoy this as do many other people seemingly. I'm doing this to make people happy and show DRG (if she returns) that lots of people still want to play this game, and then if she does return, she will of course take the ROM back completely.

I can sort this out, probably. By that logic, he and you are both correct.
If you go to a store, and buy a game, do you own that game? Yes. You own that copy of the game.
And with that copy, you are free to do what you will with it.
Of course DRG still holds ownership over it, but she gave a copy out, which means that that copy is under someone else's ownership.

Beyond attempt to sort this out, I can't actually comment on it, as I've yet to finish the first one.

I can sort this out, probably. By that logic, he and you are both correct.
If you go to a store, and buy a game, do you own that game? Yes. You own that copy of the game.
And with that copy, you are free to do what you will with it.
Of course DRG still holds ownership over it, but she gave a copy out, which means that that copy is under someone else's ownership.

Beyond attempt to sort this out, I can't actually comment on it, as I've yet to finish the first one.

No, you can use the game as per the ToS(Terms of Service) you have to agree to when you install it. For hacks like this one, however, there are no ToS and hence no restrictions to editing them, though it is not always ethical to do so. In this case however, it may be Ok, as long as you explicitly state that you have edited a copy of DRG's game and you have no ill will whatsoever.

No, you can use the game as per the ToS(Terms of Service) you have to agree to when you install it. For hacks like this one, however, there are no ToS and hence no restrictions to editing them, though it is not always ethical to do so. In this case however, it may be Ok, as long as you explicitly state that you have edited a copy of DRG's game and you have no ill will whatsoever.

that would make ALOT more play this because ALOT of people just turn tail run right when they see that there aren't real starters i will also post on facebook and other chat rooms to help if you can do that

Gen 6 starters cannot be included for many reasons. Some of them are :

- The hack has a unique story which involves the events from the first sequel. You have to start with the Drgon Starters.Most hacks rely on Water,Grass and Fire types but adding Dragons as starters is something.

- 6th generation starters cannot be added too because their other evolutions are still unknown

I couldn't play too far into the game, pretty much stopped right when she presents the pokemon choices, my chick would go straight through the wall and then the professor would repeat her words and i'd go farther into the darkness. I tried to restart from outside the lab and it repeated it again. I don't know if I'm the only one getting that or not.

Also learned going into the rooms on the ship is a no no, lol you'll get battled by trainers with no pokemon your team you die pretty quickly.

To be honest, The current team should follow under this new guy because it sounded like she will only make hacks for her and her friends. and for people who worked hard on this hack would feel like they have been kicked in the kiwis. Altough I might have taken this the wrong way, but at least I can use this as a reference for when I will start working with people again.
But This is based off of opinion.

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