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Topic: Chapter 50: Discussion (Read 10240 times)

True (as in, real, not ideal as the term is usually used) love is actually a mix of selfish and unselfish love. It's messy, it sometimes holds onto the past. It can be very far from what love should be. But it's also the closest to heaven that most of us get in terms of feelings.

Suspiria (we need to figure out a nickname) does love Crest for Crest. But she probably ALSO missed Kin. And she very much is not in control of her emotions right now, so getting pushed over the edge, not so much.

True (as in, real, not ideal as the term is usually used) love is actually a mix of selfish and unselfish love. It's messy, it sometimes holds onto the past. It can be very far from what love should be. But it's also the closest to heaven that most of us get in terms of feelings.

Suspiria (we need to figure out a nickname) does love Crest for Crest. But she probably ALSO missed Kin. And she very much is not in control of her emotions right now, so getting pushed over the edge, not so much.

Hmmm... that seems somewhat out of character for the Phalanx 'leader', is there some other kind of reality warping going on here?!?

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"...no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything - you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is Kill him." - Robert A. Heinlein

"...no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything - you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is Kill him." - Robert A. Heinlein

It's a friendship but there's also some of what TvTropes mentions as a South African word.

Mamihlapinatapai. "A look shared by two people with each wishing that the other will initiate something that both desire but which neither one wants to start. "

And oh yes, I've asked her already. So much so that I feel like pushing too hard might wreck our friendship. Plus she has a boyfriend, and one day I realized that the reason I admire her is that she's a committed person. Committed to her job (while I buckled under pressure), committed to her guy, committed to her principles. Asking her to give those things up, even if she said yes in a heartbeat, I'd hate myself for doing that to her.

So if people are like "tell her how you feel about her!" I'm like, are you guys retarded? I did already. Besides, I don't ONLY lust after her body, I also care about her happiness and our friendship .

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"この世界の悪があれば本当に、それは人類の心の内にあります."(Truly, if there is evil in this world, it lies within the heart of mankind)—Edward D. Morrison

It's a friendship but there's also some of what TvTropes mentions as a South African word.

Mamihlapinatapai. "A look shared by two people with each wishing that the other will initiate something that both desire but which neither one wants to start. "

And oh yes, I've asked her already. So much so that I feel like pushing too hard might wreck our friendship. Plus she has a boyfriend, and one day I realized that the reason I admire her is that she's a committed person. Committed to her job (while I buckled under pressure), committed to her guy, committed to her principles. Asking her to give those things up, even if she said yes in a heartbeat, I'd hate myself for doing that to her.

So if people are like "tell her how you feel about her!" I'm like, are you guys retarded? I did already. Besides, I don't ONLY lust after her body, I also care about her happiness and our friendship .

I think this is a good thought, though the "lust" part should be leftout, I believe. I think lust kind of takes the sheen off of what you're posting...

I dunno. I lust after her. And I really love her. Sheen isn't something I care about. But the point being, no matter how I feel for her, I love that we can always talk to her. If anything ever happened to that, I would be in hell.

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"この世界の悪があれば本当に、それは人類の心の内にあります."(Truly, if there is evil in this world, it lies within the heart of mankind)—Edward D. Morrison

That is ~ presumed. Presumed Crest is under some influence from her.. its not proven.

As a bit of advice to Crest ~ "Don't believe in the you that believes in someone else, don't even believe in the some one else who believes in you... Believe IN YOURSELF!"

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"...no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything - you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is Kill him." - Robert A. Heinlein

As a bit of advice to Crest ~ "Don't believe in the you that believes in someone else, don't even believe in the some one else who believes in you... Believe IN YOURSELF!"

That was totally not super-confusing at all!

{Sigh}.. If I have to explain it it looses is poignacy... like explaining a joke...

"Don't believe in the you that believes in someone else..." ~ Crest: "I'm just a stupid kid from a backwards town! I'm only here because I was tagging along with Maytag and Bernatte!"

"..don't even believe in the some one else who believes in you..." ~ Crest: "You think I'll just open my mouth and magically say something that will fix this? As if I'm Maytag or something?"

"Believe IN YOURSELF!" ~ Crest: "I'm a tagalong! That's it!"

... I don't think I need to explain the inference his words suggest about his views & feelings of Maytag and Bernadette... and himself. Its clear he idolizes Maytag and Bernadette and beleives in them.. and that he is isnpried by the fact they trust and believe in him enough to let him follow them in their adventures. But he clearly does not think he can be like them as decisive, wise, insightful or courageous.

Crest is having a Simon moment... {Tengen Toppa Gurren Laggan}

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"...no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything - you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is Kill him." - Robert A. Heinlein

Oh, I got it, it was just a confusing sentence. Sorta like one of those "You know and I know about X. But do you know that I know that you know..."

I think both Suspie and Crest are very shy people. She's a bit damaged from being bullied so much and puts up a tough front, and he's kinda messed up because he lost sight of himself. They are actually good for each other but busybodies like Moby want to push how much this seems like a rebound. So what if it is? Mind your own business. Instead, the one thing she thought she felt was real (it may turn out to still be) betrayed her, and Crest lost his last bit of nerve.

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"この世界の悪があれば本当に、それは人類の心の内にあります."(Truly, if there is evil in this world, it lies within the heart of mankind)—Edward D. Morrison

Great image of Suspiria screaming...and the current Crest arc is so easy to relate to...I really know that feeling. And the mystery is still behind everything that we don't know what is real and what has been created by Suspiria's subconscious. Great storytelling, great artwork!!!!!

COME ON CREST!!! Go to her... take her in your arms and just hold her. Make her feel that you are still with her....!!!! She's in real danger of literally self-destructing... remember her mind can warp reality her anger and frustration could easily turn inward and kill herself.... please Help HER!!!

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"...no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything - you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is Kill him." - Robert A. Heinlein

Great image of Suspiria screaming...and the current Crest arc is so easy to relate to...I really know that feeling. And the mystery is still behind everything that we don't know what is real and what has been created by Suspiria's subconscious. Great storytelling, great artwork!!!!!

"...no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything - you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is Kill him." - Robert A. Heinlein

Didn't he throw Bloody Mary in there repeatedly? Maybe it's some sort of temporal vortex. Otherwise, nah, don't listen to this guy.

Update: So that guy is basically a creative writing teacher, who thinks all OP characters unbalance the story. Listen you, we care about interesting characters. As long as the story moves forward with no writers block, this quaint notion of "story balance" is nonsense. That's what kept high fantasy from really expressing itself for at least a century.

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"この世界の悪があれば本当に、それは人類の心の内にあります."(Truly, if there is evil in this world, it lies within the heart of mankind)—Edward D. Morrison

I used to find Melter slightly unnerving. Now the multiple panels of shock faced Melter have had me wanting to scoop him (I believe it's a him?) and everyone else out of that place and shove Mr. Conehead McBatshit down the hole.

Uhmmm... I think we are going to meet our first 'Demon'. That... being, Melter is attacking was never human to begin with!

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"...no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything - you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is Kill him." - Robert A. Heinlein

...weeellll... THIS has turned truly horrific. Please Suspiria.. 'break the world shell' and save everyone! "For the Revolution of the World!"

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"...no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything - you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is Kill him." - Robert A. Heinlein