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Wow, she looks completely different. Does she not wear glasses in the manga?

Which thread are you referring to?

In the image thread, where else? Lost My Music posted a chart a while back. I first saw it on a blog some time ago, and I haven't read more than the first chapter of the manga. Even so, quite a few scenes were different from the anime's, so the changes do go beyond just the character designs.

That aside, I'm somewhere in the middle when it comes to choosing between the anime and manga designs. I've been a fan of Noizi Ito since Haruhi days, though I'll readily concede that her style tends to be very simple, tending more towards cute than lavish. Anime-Mei is more moe to me than manga-Mei, for example, despite its simpler design.

No Mikami-sensei in that chart so I checked out the first chapter of the manga. So she's the one with the glasses and her hair up in the manga

It's like they switched places. I can definitely see how people who read the manga and watch the anime were able to make the connection between the two. It's really obvious if you're following the two works.

I like the anime design better on the whole as well. The manga's artstyle is gorgeous, but the anime design is cuter, and as I said before, cute suits my taste the best. In Reiko's case, however, I think I prefer the manga where she looks so stunning... maybe a little too much. She's pretty much a model

No Mikami-sensei in that chart so I checked out the first chapter of the manga. So she's the one with the glasses and her hair up in the manga

It's like they switched places. I can definitely see how people who read the manga and watch the anime were able to make the connection between the two. It's really obvious if you're following the two works.

I like the anime design better on the whole as well. The manga's artstyle is gorgeous, but the anime design is cuter, and as I said before, cute suits my taste the best. In Reiko's case, however, I think I prefer the manga where she looks so stunning... maybe a little too much. She's pretty much a model

Spoiler for Manga spoiler:

Yes you have to wach both the Anime and read the Manga though as the connection comes completely out of the blue otherwise, since they even got a different hair color in the anime.
I hope there will be at least a very good explaination as for why she ignored him at school and talked to him at home

I generally like the Manga design better. The different looks give them a lot more character and as said before: They lost a good part of their individuality in the anime. (both look and character wise). The only Exception here is imho Izumi. her manga design would Imho look better with longer hair, but thats probably a personal opinion.

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In the past 11 episodes I watched. Well heres a fact that we know now from the anime, Reiko paints pictures. So that could mean that she is also Mikami-sensei. Mikami-sensei is an art teacher, right? Reiko likes art so that means that she could be Mikami-sensei. She could teach art at school while being an art teacher. Also Mei asked Kouichi if Reiko paints or not. This proves that Reiko = Mikami. Having the same hobbies proves that Reiko = Mikami.

I think you mean Ritsuko = Mikami, not Reiko, as Reiko is shown to be living with Kouichi and Ritsuko is dead. Even if Reiko was dead, why would she be both herself and Mikami if she rose from her grave?

The fact that Reiko paints or at least painted in the past is a piece of the puzzle, but it's not convicting evidence. And to put it bluntly, there haven't been enough clues to overrule the fact that Reiko and Mikami-sensei have different seiyuus and appearances. If the anime has the same conclusion as the novel, I'll be a bit annoyed at having been misled for the sake of being misled, and not through clever writing.

At any rate, it's at least quite odd to see Reiko, one of the major suspects of being the another, suddenly disappearing from the picture in the decisive battles stages of the story.

When that old photo of Reiko and Ritsuko was shown, I couldn't help but think how similar Ritsuko and Mikami sensei are. Basing on the picture, try to figure Mikami with tied hair and you sort of get Ritsuko and viceversa.

Here's a real piece of evidence from the anime that Mikami = Reiko that I completely missed (you had to look frame by frame to catch this in episode 7):

Spoiler:

The 23rd student in the 1983 roster is called Reiko and has the same address as Kouichi (his grandparents'). This confirms beyond doubt she's our Reiko. We can see that the second kanji of her last name is 神 (Kami) , exactly the same used to write Ms. Mikami's name.

Furthermore, we know that the students are listed in alphabetical order. The one two spots above her is Matsunaga (not sure how the person who made the pic deduced that though). The name right below her is spelled Miki.

It is therefore highly likely that her full name is Mikami Reiko. Add this to the similarities pointed out earlier by kikomarine and Pellissier, and I'd say we've got a pretty good case.

I can't say I like it however, as I find it unfair information available to Kouichi -and probably the rest of the cast- all along has been withheld from us. I thought we'd be given as much clues as him to solve the mystery.

Edit: My mind has just been blown. I had looked up Reiko and Mikami's voice actresses a few weeks ago but I didn't pay attention to their name. I just wanted to know if they were played by different people and didn't bother to look further once I found out that was the case. And now I read today that Ms. Mikami is played by Miyamaki Misayo. Sounds familiar? Shuffle a few syllables and you get...Yomiyama Misaki!! There was such a big clue right in front of your eyes all along!

That's pretty damn neat. Now I wonder if Reiko and Mikami truly have two different voice actresses, or if they are both the same person hiding under different names.

Here's a real piece of evidence from the anime that Mikami = Reiko that I completely missed (you had to look frame by frame to catch this in episode 7):

Spoiler:

The 23rd student in the 1983 roster is called Reiko and has the same address as Kouichi (his grandparents'). This confirms beyond doubt she's our Reiko. We can see that the second kanji of her last name is 神 (Kami) , exactly the same used to write Ms. Mikami's name.

Furthermore, we know that the student are listed in alphabetical order. The one two spots above her is Matsunaga (not sure how the person who made the pic deduced that though). The name right below her is spelled [I]Miki.

It is therefore highly likely that her full name is Mikami Reiko. Add this to the similarities pointed out earlier by kikomarine and Pellissier, and I'd say we've got a pretty good case.

I can't say I like it however, as I find it unfiar information available to Kouichi -and probably the rest of the cast- all along has been withheld from us. I thought we'd be given as much clues as him to solve the mystery.

Spoiler for regarding one of the mysteries, click on own danger; ALL clues in here were already shown up to EP 8:

Congrats you have found something I was actually looking for a summery of all mysteries in another (both regarding who it is as well as 'auxiliary mysteries',. ' wanted to write up for monday. looks like I looket at the wrong sheet/ column.
I feel a bit stupid now for trying to sharpen Ritsuko's name on the class picture
Would you mind if I use the picture for the summary? - credited with found by you of course.

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Spoiler for regarding one of the mysteries, click on own danger; ALL clues in here were already shown up to EP 8:

Congrats you have found something I was actually looking for a summery of all mysteries in another (both regarding who it is as well as 'auxiliary mysteries',. ' wanted to write up for monday. looks like I looket at the wrong sheet/ column.
I feel a bit stupid now for trying to sharpen Ritsuko's name on the class picture
Would you mind if I use the picture for the summary? - credited with found by you of course.

Just because I want to contribute a little if we are already there and trying to search for clues, I'm hinting in a certain direction, I'm not outright saying what the hint is, I'm merely giving a vague time in a very early episode:

Spoiler:

Look in episode 3 between the 15 and 16 minute mark and look for the hint...I actually thought it was so outright spoilerific, I was baffled nobody picked that up.

Just because I want to contribute a little if we are already there and trying to search for clues, I'm hinting in a certain direction, I'm not outright saying what the hint is, I'm merely giving a vague time in a very early episode:

Spoiler:

Look in episode 3 between the 15 and 16 minute mark and look for the hint...I actually thought it was so outright spoilerific, I was baffled nobody picked that up.

I just checked it. Are you talking about...

Spoiler for Specific scene and why I don't see the spoiler:

The sudden cut to Koichi with the mynah bird saying "Rei-chan" and then going back to Koichi with the teacher and students? If so, I don't see how it's the spoiler, considering that Mei remarked that the "other" was with the students at the inn.

Just because I want to contribute a little if we are already there and trying to search for clues, I'm hinting in a certain direction, I'm not outright saying what the hint is, I'm merely giving a vague time in a very early episode:

Spoiler:

Look in episode 3 between the 15 and 16 minute mark and look for the hint...I actually thought it was so outright spoilerific, I was baffled nobody picked that up.

We were definitely talking about two different clues in the other thread.
I can see several hints there, with one of them being circumstantial.

The one I was talking about is more

Spoiler for :

Episode 1, 5, (8*), 10
Not actually the one I was talking about but this one says 'in your face'

The problem with all these is that one would probably overlook them if they don't already know it, and/or currently concentrate on other things (Like if Mei exists for example)

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My mind has just been blown. I had looked up Reiko and Mikami's voice actresses a few weeks ago but I didn't pay attention to their name. I just wanted to know if they were played by different people and didn't bother to look further once I found out that was the case. And now I read today that Ms. Mikami is played by Miyamaki Misayo. Sounds familiar? Shuffle a few syllables and you get...Yomiyama Misaki!! There was such a big clue right in front of your eyes all along!

That's pretty damn neat. Now I wonder if Reiko and Mikami truly have two different voice actresses, or if they are both the same person hiding under different names.

Spoiler for another Another name clue:

As far as I've seen, no roles have been credited to Miyamaki Misayo in the past, and no roles have been credited to Reiko's seiyuu, either. And the alias of Reiko's seiyuu is Sakakibara Naoko (which, unlike the anagram of "Miyamaki Misayo" that you've pointed out, people have been noticing since January). Looking back at that in retrospect, it seems that giving Reiko's "seiyuu" the surname Sakakibara was a red herring, to draw attention away from Reiko's true surname, Mikami.

Well, if we're right, that's a clever ruse. I really wish I had looked into their voice acting histories (or lack thereof, rather) weeks ago, because it would've been obvious at that point.

Here's a real piece of evidence from the anime that Mikami = Reiko that I completely missed (you had to look frame by frame to catch this in episode 7):

Spoiler:

The 23rd student in the 1983 roster is called Reiko and has the same address as Kouichi (his grandparents'). This confirms beyond doubt she's our Reiko. We can see that the second kanji of her last name is 神 (Kami) , exactly the same used to write Ms. Mikami's name.

Furthermore, we know that the students are listed in alphabetical order. The one two spots above her is Matsunaga (not sure how the person who made the pic deduced that though). The name right below her is spelled Miki.

It is therefore highly likely that her full name is Mikami Reiko. Add this to the similarities pointed out earlier by kikomarine and Pellissier, and I'd say we've got a pretty good case.

I can't say I like it however, as I find it unfair information available to Kouichi -and probably the rest of the cast- all along has been withheld from us. I thought we'd be given as much clues as him to solve the mystery.

Edit: My mind has just been blown. I had looked up Reiko and Mikami's voice actresses a few weeks ago but I didn't pay attention to their name. I just wanted to know if they were played by different people and didn't bother to look further once I found out that was the case. And now I read today that Ms. Mikami is played by Miyamaki Misayo. Sounds familiar? Shuffle a few syllables and you get...Yomiyama Misaki!! There was such a big clue right in front of your eyes all along!

That's pretty damn neat. Now I wonder if Reiko and Mikami truly have two different voice actresses, or if they are both the same person hiding under different names.

Talk about a hidden (though important) clue, I'm surprised someone managed to notice this bit ... wouldn't be surprised if the person who stumbled upon that knew what he was looking for in advance. That said, it certainly allows one to look at some past events in different light, so you can say the show has been winking at this all along, though in a rather obscure manner.

Spoiler for Mussings with the above in mind:

Like back in episode 2, when Mochizuki basically asks Koichi if he finds Mikami hot, and Koichi answering in a rather unexcited manner that it's a difficult question for him. Not that odd in itself (and easy to write off as him simply avoiding an embarrassing subject), but certainly gets a new meaning if you consider he was basically asked if he finds his own aunt hot

Then we have a few instances of him showing some concern for her, like when she ran away screaming after seeing the homeroom teacher's suicide scene, or just now in episode 10 when he walked out to ask her if she is ok after the asthma kid collapsed, then advising afterwards that maybe they shouldn't go to the shrine tomorrow after all. Then we have him attacking the guy who whopped Mikami with a mop in front of him.

Again, instances that aren't "that" odd on their own (so once again easy to overlook as regular reactions), but are more easily understandable if that's actually Reiko who he showed concern about (during situations when everyone else is just focused on themselves), especially the part where he is making suggestions that they shouldn't climb the mountain, this part stood out as somewhat odd to start with.

Of course it makes sense if that's actually Reiko - considering she was helping with their investigation previously, it wouldn't be odd at all if she and Koichi had talked over this whole trip business previously, and thus it would make sense Koichi would see fit to offer his opinion on how to proceed, and her accepting the suggestion.

Then there was Mei's question in episode 10 whether Reiko-san paints at home as well, which may well be the biggest clue thus far - it certainly jumped out at me as quite odd. Why would Mei ask such a question ? It seemed completely out of the blue. Yes, the photo showed her with painting tools, but that hardly justifies such a question now. And her calling Reiko by her first name in said question. It implies a certain degree of familiarity, (through Koichi, heh) yet the only time Mei has even met Reiko specifically was on the beach trip, and they didn't even converse once. (And again, the painting question, why bring that up ... and why Koichi commenting she considers that her "real" job ? What's her "other" job then?).

Again something easily gaining new meaning (or losing obscurity at least) by knowing that Reiko is Mikami-sensei. It ceases becoming so odd why Mei would express interest in Reiko - because she is actually adviser to the arts club that Mei is a member of. With that in mind, it also becomes clear why she would bring up Reiko painting at home - she is her arts teacher after all (And being Koichi's relative is probably an added point of interest, seeing how Mei and Koichi are growing closer).

So ... yeah, the hints are there, but to me they largely seem of the type that you can look backwards at and go "Aaahhh, so that's what it actually was!", rather than something you can decipher the true meaning of upon first contact. The show is definitely trying to keep this connection under wraps, painstakingly so, so it can't be without a reason.

Which goes back to my Reiko = Another theories spawned as early as episode 5. With them keeping this information deliberately out of sight, they might as well have confirmed it, IMO. Reiko being Mikami, she is actually present on the trip as well.

And Mei actually hesitated a bit before revealing Another's identity to Koichi, a moment lasting long enough for Teshigawara to interrupt. Again not necessarily that odd in itself, but gains a new meaning if we consider she was about to tell him that they have to kill his aunt. And regarding her new-found resolve to kill the Another herself, how did she know she must go upstairs in the end, not downwards? How would she know that's the direction, of all places, where to find her target ? Because that's where Mikami collapsed after being knocked out by the mop of doom.

Just because I want to contribute a little if we are already there and trying to search for clues, I'm hinting in a certain direction, I'm not outright saying what the hint is, I'm merely giving a vague time in a very early episode:

Spoiler:

Look in episode 3 between the 15 and 16 minute mark and look for the hint...I actually thought it was so outright spoilerific, I was baffled nobody picked that up.

Spoiler:

That's the kind of hint you can't really pick up on a first viewing, like most of the stuff Skyfall posted, so I'm not surprised if we missed it. It's only obvious when you already know the answer. I did think a few of Kouichi's reactions were a bit odd, but deducing Mikami and Reiko -two women who didn't even look that much like each other- were the same person based on that alone would have required quite the leap of logic.

We should have noticed the name on the roster earlier though. I want to whip myself for not thinking about looking at that scene frame by frame...

That's the kind of hint you can't really pick up on a first viewing, like most of the stuff Skyfall posted, so I'm not surprised if we missed it. It's only obvious when you already know the answer. I did think a few of Kouichi's reactions were a bit odd, but deducing Mikami and Reiko -two women who didn't even look that much like each other- were the same person based on that alone would have required quite the leap of logic.

We should have noticed the name on the roster earlier though. I want to whip myself for not thinking about looking at that scene frame by frame...

Yes that's probably it. You get over-sensitive once you know an answer and don't want anything to spoil the same fun of finding out to others
Btw. concerning their seiyuu:

Spoiler:

So are we all on the same page that we assume that they tricked us into believing they are two different women when they are actually one and the same?

So are we all on the same page that we assume that they tricked us into believing they are two different women when they are actually one and the same?

Spoiler for seiyuu:

On their profiles, there are pics of both Sakakibara Naoko and Miyamaki Misayo: now if those pics are genuine I'd tend to believe they're two different persons (just look at the shape of their faces).

However, I wouldn't be surprised if other than a fake name, "Yomiyama Misaki" is also a totally fake identity. For all that we know they could have taken an assistant designer, a secretary or whatever, and put her identity there as Mikami's seiyuu. So to speak.