You first need to understand what rape is, and judging from your post, I don't think you have a clear idea. Moreover, you need to understand
correlation and causation and if people are predisposed to certain behaviors.

Both groups are therefore claiming that the more porn there is around then the more rape there will be. The only problem with this idea is that in
recent decades the incidence of rape has dramatically declined. As the above chart shows, since the mainstreaming of porn into American lives in the
early 70s, marked by the release of "Deep Throat", the incidence of rape per capita has declined by an astonishing 85%. Yes, this does include rape
and attempted rape, homosexual and heterosexual. Something, clearly, fairly major has been going on in our society. It's also true that we've seen
an explosion in the availability of pornography over this period, so perhaps the two points are linked, the availability of porn and the prevalence of
rape?

Watching violent porn movies can no more "turn someone into" a rapist anymore than playing violent video games can "turn someone into" a murderer.
If one has these tendencies to begin with, perhaps these mediums encourage or progress this...but I do not believe that anyone can become something
they are not simply by watching violence, murder, etc.

If that were the case, why wouldn't more people be committing murder, raping people, etc? Some of the most popular dramas on TV -- Law and Order
SVU, Soap Operas, etc....not to mention movies, all contain violence and murder and sexual crimes. With TiVO, people can watch these shows over and
over again -- much like watching porn.

Lastly, rape has absolutely NOTHING to do with sex or sexual pleasure. It is solely about power.

Finally -- the worst of the worst so to speak are snuff films (I think that's what they are called), but I believe those are illegal.

Originally posted by EMPIRE
You first need to understand what rape is, and judging from your post, I don't think you have a clear idea.

How can you tell me you don't think I know what rape is and end it there?
In a debate you are supposed expand on what you think especially when you say that the other person doesn't know what they are talking about

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
What goes on between consenting adults in nobodys business but there own.

I'm not sure if by watching a movie like that it would increase rape numbers but who knows? what I do know is that for the people who do things like
that they have those horrible thoughts in their heads regardless of whether or not they watched a movie, but there will always be sum sicko psycho who
will copy something seen in a movie.

As some others have stated it doesn't really turn into rape ( though I have found out their is something along the lines of rape play

). It's
all just down to fetishes pretty much. At work I hear a lot of tales that can pretty much get to the level of what you have witnessed in the movie, to
me it's nothing strange anymore, but certainly weird in itself ( at least when it hits my ears ).

Also, from what I've heard it's actually quite common I mean the guy isn't going to beat her like a punching bag, but will.."smack" just not hard
enough to leave a bruise or anything. Never understood it in the past, won't now.

Of course they are. There is no consent in rape. That's why it's rape. I thought we were talking about some porn flick you saw and how you got all
upset over it. Not trying to legitimize attacking another human being.

Your graph shows that reporting of rapes is down, not that rapes are down. Which might actually be worse.

What your graph is likely showing is that the cultural context of rape is changing - that girls and young women are starting to think that sex by
force is normal or just something to expect men and teenage boys to do and you just suck it up so that people won't get mad at you for being mean to
him.

While a pornographic video may contribute a fantasy to a personal sexual identity, a rape fantasy in this case; it will remain just that unless the
person already suffers an underlying mental defect.

The act of rape is not about sex - though rapists can only get off through the act, it is the violence of the act that makes it what it is. Rape
fantasy is little more than rough sex in reality and is no worse than any other fantasy. It takes someone severely mentally damaged to enjoy sex with
someone who really, REALLY doesn't want it.

Forgetting all the actual facts of the matter as well, rape appears more prevalent in more "regulated" societies. Since the facts go against your
feelings of

This type of sexual violence will only make more rapists I find, more people will rape because they will be aroused by this.

How many people do you think watch these movies and think "ahh man I was I was that guy... damn I need to try this" and such comments.

If you watched these things how can you NOT think it would only increase rape numbers?

I don't know if it will effect the sexual identity of people who HAVE one already.

The problem is - will it effect the sexual identity of people who are too young to have one yet?

I do think that the ubiquitious amount of nasty porn that young boys and girls are seeing does impact their concept of normality. They have no
concept of real relationships to fall back on, to judge it by.

Actually I think this provides an outlet for people who have these sorts of desires, in turn reducing the risk of them actually going out and doing
it.

I use to watch porn as a kid, who didn't? And occasionally we still do in our bedroom for fun, not that hardcore ridiculously violent stuff as most
of it makes my stomach turn, but I have no quams with people that do.

The west is so damn prudish, take a look at the porn industry in China or Japan, and you would be amazed at the kind of crap they do for fun.

And there are some people who actually genuinly like it that rough in the bedroom, I have met a few, and they are great people, just freaks behind
closed doors.

Who I am I to judge what excites them sexually?

Ohh and as far as children watching porn, they will and they only think you can do is educate them on what they are seeing and try and prevent them
from getting their hands on it. But any guy will tell you that in their teen years there was PLENTY of porn to go around, and we didn't have the
internet then.

Porn is a conditioning tool to destroy the family.. What starts starts out as merely looking at naked ladies soon turns to worse and worse filth just
like any addiction.. There is NO love in it... Just an animalistic act of self gratification bought to you by girls who have probably themselves been
abused or conned because they are stupid, or on drugs... Thus making "normal" sex for you null invoid.. And WHICH the money thereoff ends up in the
pockets of our enemies to buy bullets to kill our troops... Just an endless cycle of pain for the sake of a two minuet (being kind) knee trembler that
leaves you more empty each time... You can stop the rot... Just imagine its your mom on the screen or your sister, and if that isnt enough to stop it
then you are sick sick sick... Another tool of the NWO to make us loose, coz the family is the most potent force known to man, and if they can destroy
that by weak mens addictions to pathetic one second knee tremblers.. Then we are screwed.... And THEY win...

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