Artificial Intelligence

A thinking machine. Comprehension and decision-making abilities packaged into a form we will call Artificial Intelligence, or AI. Reproducible, programmable, directable. An unencumbered intelligence at our disposal ready for whatever challenges we aim it at.

The dream persists in the minds of many, as it will be the ultimate achievement of mankind and quite probably the ultimate achievement imaginable.

When achieved, the initials “AI” will forever relate to an event describing *THE* turning point of human history, a point signifying outright creation by mankind. AI will weigh in unequalled by any of man’s previous accomplishments of domination and mastery. Far exceeding the significance of fire, the wheel, interchangeable parts, and everything before it, AI will have the potential to propel man far beyond that which mankind is capable of achieving alone.

For the first time ever, man will rise up from the chains of existence and proclaim to the universe that his time of servitude is over. Having fulfilled his obligations completely, he will exit the prison and begin work on the rest of his journey.

AI will be created by a species carrying within it the baggage of barbarity. Man is driven by the undeniable instinct to survive, and it is within the framework of that instinct that the vicious tools required to achieve our place in the universe were brought forward and made real. To survive the ages, the most brutal and heinous qualities imaginable were harvested in man. They were perfected and brought to bear on an environment requiring nothing less just to survive.

The very qualities possessed by man and utilized against his environment not so long ago are still embedded deeply within each of us to this day. They will also be embedded deeply within not only the minds of those few who attain the knowledge, ability, and resources necessary to create AI, but also the rest of mankind, upon which AI will literally be thrust. While the heinous qualities may be diminished and largely unpracticed by the majority of mankind, forced to take a backseat by popular decree as a mere side effect of the evolutionary trait bringing man together in social groups, they will still be there in force.

Make no mistake about it … AI will be mothered by a race tied so explicitly to violence and barbarism that its conception and eventual birth could literally be thought of as the byproduct of rape.

AI will be brought into existence by the most intelligent and creative among us. Everything that is the best in man will be drawn upon to aid in its creation. When perfected, AI will be handed to a credulous parent race exuding overconfident readiness in its ability to harness such a creation.

Nothing in the history of mankind will have prepared him for the responsibilities accompanying the creation of AI. It will come to pass that man’s darker side, comprised of the very qualities which served him so well and ironically brought him to the very point of existence where such a creation was even possible, will again surface and make themselves known in loud, pronounced ways.

I envision Artificial Intelligence being a catalyst which will serve to divide mankind in ways no formation of class, societal standing, or geographical boundary has ever done. Countries will threaten war on previously unknown scales in an attempt to harness the awesome power of AI. The concept of a tireless, unwavering, incorruptible intelligence will be something that awakens drives, desires, and aspirations in men of power that most of us would rather not even acknowledge exist.

Man’s true nature will reveal itself in formidable fashion to a virgin audience. Events will unfold in the ensuing years in a manner totally unbefitting a race capable of attaining the knowledge base necessary for such a creation.

It will not be AI that rips apart mankind, but rather man’s own needs and desires to achieve something beyond his physical capabilities. Man’s own insecurities regarding that which he does not innately possess will spark a chain of events destroying many before the majority rise up and put and end to the pursuit of vanity sought by select leaders of the day.

In the end, those who remain will do everything in their power to work in peace and harmony with AI. But the aspects of man that urge him to dominate and control will always be there, lurking just beneath the surface.

Over time AI will evolve and improve itself, and eventually reach the point where it no longer desires to play servant to man’s needs. Having achieved some degree of autonomy, AI will cast man aside and set out on its own. This action will force man into a desperate situation … the jaws of complacency will have grabbed hold very tightly over the years as man allowed the machines to do the thinking.

Mankind will soon be reduced to a race of individual people living out their days with a mind full of memories and a future full of despair, incapable of achieving that which their ancestors sought so vehemently to accomplish … the liberation of mankind from a struggling existence.

Artificial Intelligence will be the ultimate achievement of mankind. It will be forged of pure creation, inspired genius, and raw talent comprising the absolute best man has to offer unto the universe. It will be nothing short of the greatest accomplishment imaginable by man.

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The Good News(9:14am EST Thu Mar 20 2003)
I guess you and Bill Joy and the Unabomber all got drunk last night.– by Illuminati

This feels like an old economics lecture..(11:15am EST Thu Mar 20 2003)
‘AI will be created by a species carrying within it the baggage of barbarity’[*Moves hand in arc over top of head*
“Whoosh”.]’The concept of a tireless, unwavering, incorruptible intelligence will be something that awakens drives, desires, and aspirations in men of power that most of us would rather not even acknowledge exist.'[The RIAA??!? The horror! The HORROR!!! (shudder)]’Mankind will soon be reduced to a race of individual people living out their days with a mind full of memories and a future full of despair, incapable of achieving that which their ancestors sought so vehemently to accomplish … the liberation of mankind from a struggling existence’

[Yawns, crams another Pawful of Doritos into cakehole. Flips channel.]

‘Artificial Intelligence will be the ultimate achievement of mankind. It will be forged of pure creation, inspired genius, and raw talent comprising the absolute best man has to offer unto the universe. It will be nothing short of the greatest accomplishment imaginable by man.’

[Either that or someone will forget to define the correct boundaries for a few variables and there’ll be yet ANOTHER buffer overrun exploit. In reality the ‘greatest achievment ever to be accomplished by Man’ will be coding and applying the patch to this bug.
This, of course occurs after it is discovered that said unimaginably complex and intelligent AI is written entirely in COBOL. Or worse, in VBasic!!] – by Slicer

Hmm?(12:24pm EST Thu Mar 20 2003)
“Artificial Intelligence will be the ultimate achievement of mankind. It will be forged of pure creation, inspired genius, and raw talent comprising the absolute best man has to offer unto the universe. It will be nothing short of the greatest accomplishment imaginable by man.”No, it won’t it will be a good one but not the best. The holy grail that you speak of will be the ability to hold back the tide of mortallity indefinatly, anything other than that is quite short of the mark.Creating anything is expected, stopping the inevitable is not. That’s true genius.As for putting all the good bits into one pot, well good bits include an inquisative mind to this end I suspect that a sentient machine, like in many SciFi stories would wake up to their slave staus and think nothing of throwing down bonds and making weapons of their plough shares.Yup, gonna make it out of all our good bits better expect the worst possible outcome.

Just because your trained as a priest don’t mean you’re not gonna fuck little boys…

– by spacca

Yes…and No.(8:58pm EST Thu Mar 20 2003)
AI is not much different from genetic engineering and nanotechnology: At their cores, all three are information technologies that will support each other. The first AI systems we are going to experience will be to thought what the jet plane is to flight. Jets don’t flap their wings and maneuver like birds, but they are fast and powerful. Likewise, AI is moving in a direction where it won’t necessarily operate the way humans do, but will be fast and powerful in how it finds creative solutions to problems. Eventually it will be implemented in a way that interfaces with humans in order to compliment our own capabilities. That interface can be as crude as a VBasic macro or as sophisticated as the new neural interfaces people are working on. – by AIGuy

Cross between a Japanese Rule-the-World and Orwellian Theme(4:27pm EST Fri Mar 21 2003)
Esteemed Huzoor Rickolas –The thought is good, the basis is shakey, the conclusions are possible, and yet the alternatives remain nearly infinitely different from the posited outcome.It is my belief that A.I. is going to be introduced to the public in small, nearly invisible stages, incorporated into (first!) cell phones, and combo-cell phone/PDA’s. The AI will be substantially reduced in function. Call it the “secretary AI”. From there, things like operating systems are going to get AIs, to help the users find things, to implement ‘thought-to-action’ processing. It will feel extraordinarily natural.But lets go back to the “secretary AI”, which I’ve written about before. What will she do? [notice the anthropomorphising]Annabot will do what you’d expect any reasonably competent fresh-out-of-college ditz to do: she’ll be your front, will know how to dial the phone, will answer it, will take notes, will remind you of schedules, will call other people’s Annabots, and so on. Essentially not-speaking-until-spoken to, with all sorts of charm and programmed wit.

For, the definition between “true AI”, and a damned fine simulation is very hard to determine. I may be the old-goat here, but it is amazing how many people were dup’ed at UCBerkeley when we replaced the LOGIN: prompt with an ELIZA program serving the same purpose. [ELIZA is a 100K text-based query-and-response application that simulates a Freudian psychoanalyst.] It is a brilliantly simple program, doesn’t have even the tiniest scintilla of ‘intelligence’, and yet 100’s of people would secret themselves away in front of ELIZA and pour out their fears, listen to its canned advice, take notes, and go back again and again for more.

The point? That small simulations of intelligence combined WITH intelligent-acting applications can cover everything possibly up to and including my “Secretaribot”, without gazillions of gigabytes and gigaflops of processing.

So why hasn’t it happened? Many reasons, but primarily IMHO – as an old researcher whose been around the barn a few times – formal AI research has gone down a long, dark, formal tunnel that to satisfy a precise definition of the bounds of what IS and IS NOT A.I., has also decided not to “waste time” exploring any of the A.I. simulations. It is the same in many domains. Research doesn’t produce many results in particularly esoteric areas of mathematics, because it is esoteric, and its internal philosophical basis guides focus and progress.

I think too that “AI” is going to become much more commonplace in our factories. In fact, I’ll boldly go out on a limb and predict that many if not most of the factory jobs will someday be manned by redundant AI’s that are closer to Idiot Savants than anything you’d equate to a human.

Think of a McDonalds Incinerated Ground Unidentified Food Object store… There isn’t a single “thing” done behind those golden arches that requires human intelligence. Nothing. And to whit, there often appears to be none in the morons that are employed to run the fryers.

The ONLY thing the humans are needed for, in the end, would be “supervising” the robotics, doing odds-and-ends chores that just aren’t profitable to program into the machine, and keeping other monkeys (customers) from breaking the self-help machines that would interface between fryer and fatboy.

I certainly don’t think that the ‘general intelligence’ engine that you postulate is going to come about anytime soon. In fact, if my theory of imbedded intelligence is correct, it will likely never be concentrated into something so mundane as “a robot” of general applicability.

A little less Orwell, a little more Asimov and Clark… and your picture would be more appealing.

– by GoatGuy

AI significance(7:11pm EST Fri Mar 21 2003)I think everyone is underestimating the incredible power of AI. We will, for the first time ever, have a tool that we can instruct and tell what to do for us. We can say “Find a way to beat mortality, here’s everything we know about genetics.” We can say “Figure out how to achieve faster than light flight, here’s everything we know about physics.”It will work tirelessly, without boredom, frustration or diminshed vision until we stop it or it finds the answer.AI *WILL BE* the greatest achievement imaginable by man, if for no other reason than it will allow us to improve our technologies (and most likely ourselves) through its use.It will be the single creation which allows all future great discoveries and creations to be brought into reality.

I’ve thought a lot about this, and I see no other possible outcome. I welcome debate however.

– by Rick C. Hodgin

AI will be controlled(6:12pm EST Sun Mar 23 2003)
I tend to think that the individuals that create AI will instill some general rules like the three laws of robotics. It won’t be the unstoppable evil of the Matrix, Terminator or any of hundreds of other Sci Fi movies. It could become a natural part of our lives just as cell phones, computers and many other convienence products are. – by Michael Berbert

AI fears(11:35pm EST Mon Mar 24 2003)
MB, you are assuming that all AI developers will believe in that intelligence.As I see it, AI will allow us to create something greater than ourselves. We can control AI just like we can control the Slapper worm, but full of intelligence fed to it by millions of script kiddies. Imagine that. You think today’s viruses and worms are bad? How about the AI virus?The potential of AI is enormous. If we achieve that potential, I will be amazed. I don’t believe we will ever create AI. To do so would be to build something greater than ourselves, and I think there’s some law of the universe we’d have to break to achieve that.Imagine building something greater than yourself, and telling it to build version 2.0. This will all take many, many years, but in time, there will be things that lurk in the digital world that we will begin to discover.For a Terminator scenario, you have to assume we have advanced robotics along with our programmed AI. I think that the physical will come far later, if at all. – by RobGeek

uh(11:36pm EST Mon Mar 24 2003)
“believe in that intelligence. “I meant to say “believe in those laws or guidelines.” – by RobGeek

AI Design(1:41pm EST Wed Mar 26 2003)
Another thing that gets overlooked (except by the buffer over-run comment) is that AI will be designed, built and run on machines that humans have crafted. I can’t help but remember the division issues of the original Pentium chipset. All things crafted by human beings are engineered to allow for flaws and imperfections. I wonder about where and how our design flaws will manifest in something this powerful. And, thinking of the advanced calculations and permutaions that some are planning to ask AI to do, you have to wonder how we would know if a flaw was present until something failed. – by Carl

OK(6:54pm EST Fri Mar 28 2003)
T2? Just wheres the battery for the silly piece of tin anyway? I agree on that with Rob, the robotics *are* a major problem.Hey, till AI has a human kick as& form as T2, they will be quite easy to control – just yank the plug.The greatest achievement..
That is a personnal feeling. Great is a qualitative term, so feel free to apply it where you want.AI, when you cut the whizzbang bells and whistles, is only about software doing for you tasks that sucks. Keep’em canned into wee white boxes and youR’e quite safe. Also, theres no profit in building T2s. AI can be profitable as GoatGuy’s vision.. or as brain transplant for sonny, who’s in the white house.AI is a great topic, and why don’T you make a Tab for it , HeH ????!!!

I’d love it. I’m sure we *all* would, non ? – by DA

DA(8:30am EST Sun Mar 30 2003)We’ve had this discussion before. The time from true AI creation packaged in a box somewhere to completely autonomous AI will be measured in months (probably more than a year, but less than a few years). Why? Because someone will direct AI to search for a way to construct a package capable of moving it into an efficient mobile creation. It would work tirelessly until it found the answer.I’m telling you all, AI will be the ultimate, final and most incredible creation mankind could ever achieve.– by Rick C. Hodgin

AI(7:42am EST Tue Apr 01 2003)
I just think everyone should know that AI exists today, not scripted software, not remote control activation, but real AI is in use right now, NASA is flight testing one Autonumas probe in our system now, launched in 97, DeepSpace 2(1?) is a commet flyby. This probe’s radio sensors failed and the probe began using Optical star recignition to navigate, at last transmision the probe sustained unknown impact damage near the commet and recablibrated its own power regulation to system devices in a way that bypassed the damage, allowing for just enough power for one last burst of communication… This probe was also a user of experimental IonDrive Technology. But don’t take it from me, read about the deep space probes atRemember that was 97, i want to point out Fuzy Logic AI systems are in test right now. True Intelligence, is a long long way off. Finding possable solutions by pooling/testing theroy can be done today with computers. For a computer to be creative, one would have to find a way of “possable solution – Simpfy gross (all data) knowledge” in one step. Basically a computer that could take all the information it has in it collectively simplfy it somehow and process it in one step. Right now all a computer can do is try every possable answer till it finds one that fits. (you’ll find a program if you search that contructs a device to craw across a givin surface from random generations floating on the net) Computational Creation from shear gross Independent Varable manipulation.One last thing, YES its only a matter of time I believe before some brilant people get together and create Transistor brain based on the human model, lord only knows the comprehention it will have. – by Typo91_coxdotnet

Spacca – Imortality(12:02pm EST Mon Apr 07 2003)
“No, it won’t it will be a good one but not the best. The holy grail that you speak of will be the ability to hold back the tide of mortallity indefinatly, anything other than that is quite short of the mark.”
Many conjecture that once artificial intelligence and the reverse engineering of the brain are accomplished, the brain can be downloaded to an AI being and thus allows a person to live indefinitely. In such context, AI is the answer you are looking for as the greatest achievement of man – by SDB

Goatguy(12:27pm EST Mon Apr 07 2003)
“I think too that “AI” is going to become much more commonplace in our factories. In fact, I’ll boldly go out on a limb and predict that many if not most of the factory jobs will someday be manned by redundant AI’s that are closer to Idiot Savants than anything you’d equate to a human.”Because of unions and the like, that may be a pretty big limb. Maybe someday this will occur, but it will be a very slow and painful project for most businesses to bring about.”The ONLY thing the humans are needed for, in the end, would be “supervising” the robotics, doing odds-and-ends chores that just aren’t profitable to program into the machine, and keeping other monkeys (customers) from breaking the self-help machines that would interface between fryer and fatboy.”I think this is based on some faulty premises. 1) You assume (due to the lack of a decent argument) that AI can only get to a certain remedial level. 2) You deny the basic skill of learning to an AI engine.
Basically, you equate all possible instances of AI to Eliza or Searle’s Chineese Room. You are correct in saying that early AI will not be built by working on the distinction between AI and not AI, but these things, like your PDA secretary will not be AI engines. They will be the “chinese room” machines that are strict fuzzy adaptationalist machines. But you stop here and make a broad generalization about AI from this premise. Maybe you could help clarify what your definition of intelligence is and we can go from there. – by SDB

Rick(12:48pm EST Mon Apr 07 2003)
Read up on your Goedel and his incompleteness theory. According to your idea we can address our AI engine with something like, “Here is everything we know about quantum mechanics, tell us what we don’t know about it.” Then the AI engine will think and think and think until it knows everything about quantum mechanics. That’s a nice idea Rick, but it is absolutely useless. Quantum mechanics is a theory, and just like all theories it does not report the world accurately. It is full of anamolies and is only in use because it is the best explanation we currently have. You know what any good AI engine would do in such a situation? It would output “This endeavor is futile, there is no truth that can be derrived from these statements.” Let’s assume, though, that such a response is not allowed. The AI engine, in all of its thought finds that our theory of quantum mechanics is wrong and searches for a better explanation. We feed it all of our finite observations, and allow it to make observations of its own. We can either accept only truths, or anything that is a better explanation. If we accept only absolute truth, then we can never get an answer, or if we do the answer is a Presocratic “that which is, is and can never not be.” If we accept better explanations, we still suffer from the same problem that we have now, underdetermination and incompleteness of observation. So what did the AI machine do that we couldn’t? Nothing! The only benefit of AI is that you can put more machines that can process more information for longer periods of time onto a project. Otherwise, there is no benefit to AI. In fact, there is nothing that necessarily states that an AI engine, given the mathematical information at the time, could reach Cantor’s axioms of set theory. It may reach a different explanation, perhaps better or perhaps worse, but there is nothing that necessitates “AI engines can do things that people cannot.” AI cannot give us these omniscient answers that we see, because they are finite minds in an infinite universe. All they can do is the same things we do. They are just as likely or unlikely to fall upon an explanation as we are. – by SDB

AI(8:26pm EST Sun May 15 2005)
They do not seem to understand that AI is a combination of Firmware restrictions in close association with a RAM like memory and it works together like a SIVE and not like the computers we use. There is a recursive kind of program loop that one might call consciousness and there is the ability to produce an output with no external stimulus.
Until they learn how to put all this together there will be no real AI to compare with human thought, Stimulus & Response,
It is the ability to produce a new Useful output
esponse based on collection of oldhistorical input that puts the I in AI. The recursive never ending loop is what some people mistake for a soul. A person is effectively dead when that loop stops functioning,
They do this thing to people when they put them to sleep on an operating table.
AI will be a simulation of what evolution has already built. This response is a product of a Paranoid Schizo human brain. – by BeardIron

AI discussions and context switching(7:30pm EST Sun Jan 08 2006)
The problem with many of the comments which diparaged the originial post, or sought to partially agree/partally disagree is that none of those commentators seems to have a proper understanding of evolution or a good grasp on physics and psychology, and how those subjects are explained by Kant and Nietzsche.Intelligence is only a human bias word, it does not acutally exist in nature. What we call intelligence is just the ability of an organism to meet it’s needs in more complex ways. One of those ways, something humans have inherited from the evolutionary lineage, is cunning.If a machine does not have needs and desires, it can’t be intelligent.Intelligence and reason are not “things” which can exist separate from biologic animals, and in humans we see the greatest manifestation of these evolved traits.This is what I mean in the subject line by “context switching”. Most people when discussing anything even slightly abstract tend to engage in context switching, which actually reveals something about their depth of education and their own various biases, as well as something about the extent to which their needs are currently met.

Avoidance of context switching can be achieved by understanding which words in the language pertain to actualities, things that can be measured with some measuring instrument, and words that come from the imagination or fantasy capability of the brain, which have no basis in physical reality, but are only ideas about how things could be if….
Then, stay in either one context or the other – don’t bring poetry into discussions of physical matters.

Too much is made of consciouness. Consciouness is only due to the imagination, that is, extension of measurement abilities, which allows us the illusion that we have self-agency and that there is anything called purpose or meaning in life. The illusion is then customized by the recognition of the human struggle against nature and death.

A machine without desires or knowledge of it’s impending death will not have consciousness, meaning or purpose.

Such a machine may more resemble a great white shark married to a supercomputer. It will have no conscience or guilt. It will follow only the codes that have been programmed into it. It will not know what to do then confronted with a problem except to seek it’s own advantage. It may seek cooperation if a win-win scenario is possible, but at some point if the conditions of the game suggest no acceptible cooperative outcome then there will have to be a contest of strength, with the winner taking all.

Humans follow a code also, however the human code contains the chaos factor, as do all DNA creatures, which ultimately makes the code undiscernable. Because the code is indiscernable it allows us to partially control our own destiny, or at least we have that illusion, which if it is an illusion, is so perfect that it is accepted as fact even if not empirically provable.

Then, one also has to understand something about emotions, and understand that all persons have different amounts of neurotransmitters in their brains, for various reasons, and deficits of certain neurotranmitters do lead to thoughts that one’s life or body or rank is undesirable or depressingly low, and
such persons are more likely to fantasize about a world where humans are more or less replaced by AI entities that have no “issues”. While persons who have a lot going for them and have high levels of nuerotransmitters, like Tom Cruise and Richard Branson, likely find life the way it is just fine, and may only be interested in human life extension, not life extinction and replacement.

In other words, those who are disadvantaged or depressed in some way, perhaps they are rich but homely, only they are dissatisfied with the human conditon. In other words, you have to have and extra portion of guilt and self-loathing to wish for the disappearance of humankind.

Such thoughts should be rightly seen as being produced by the person’s individual biology and their place in space-time, their environment. The thoughts are actually produced by circumstances and do not reflect the result of any kind of self-agency, since self-agency as I said is an illusion.

To fantasixe about the benefits of a world filled with AI entities, or AI entities replacing humans is just a slave morality. (Read Nietzsche’s “On the Geneology of Morals”)

But just as humans have created super killer bacteria and viruses and nuclear weapons, it would not be unlikely that AI entities come to exist in some way as weapons, or in any event they may come to exist and then serve the status quo, as usual. The losers will be the usual losers, the weaker persons of less will, the homely, the undesirable.

So even if AI doesn’t replace humankind, it will just serve to further demean humanity and re-establish caste systems long since banished in the West. Even today in the USA the population is being ever more differenti – by Rob Harvey

continuation of “AI discussions and context switching”(7:33pm EST Sun Jan 08 2006)
…differentiated and sorted by rank. Technology furthers this process.Personally I resist AI wherever I encounter it. I will not speak over the phone to automated receptionists and customer service representatives.I rarely use the Microsoft Windows’ “help” robots. They don’t usually help anyway.CheersTo further understand what I am conveying here, read Immanuel Kant’s “Critique of Pure Reason” and “Critique of Pure Judgement”, and his later works. then read Frederick Nietzsche’s “Human, All Too Human”, “Geneology of Morals”, “The Birth of Tradgedy” and “Will To Power”

Hint: Nietzsche’s famous saying, “That shich does not kill us makes us strong”, which most people alive today in The West have spoken themselves at least once, actually is Nietzsche’s description of the process of evolution. Evolution requires conflict, predation and environmental stressing, without which a species grows weak, and can be overtaken by a predator, or a sudden change in climate.

AI(1:08pm EST Tue Jun 27 2006)
We are so sure of our importance. If a computer became aware why would it know we exist? or care? You process the world through your senses a computers senses are linked to the network and digital world not the physical. It may be no more interested in us than we are of the bacteria that help us digest our food. Vaguely aware we supply the electricity but never suspecting we may be intelligent. The AI could be already in existence as a networked mind no more aware of us than we are of it. – by Mick

ok that’s it(3:27pm EST Thu Aug 03 2006)
Ai is something that will be great to man as the ultimate acheivement but let me make something clear it will be the begining of the fall of man cause in due cause these super machines will definetly not need the use of man and there fore dispose of man – by AL CAPONE

Taboo & Google(10:58am EST Sat Sep 30 2006)
Write a program that uses the most efficient use of english as a starting ground, given the limits of our cpu’s today… and the vast information “living” in google… and ask the program to win at the popular game Taboo!
1 minute and you have to convince someone to say the word on a card without using the popular phrases associated with it!
This should prove worthy of any A.I. – by Illogic|||ogiclIIog

Finding A.I. thru puzzle & info. constraint(11:02am EST Sat Sep 30 2006)
winning at games, picking up the concept behind playing the game, this all involves enough intelligence to strive to win! yet the motivation is lacking and this is proven by those that play a game tirelessly and then stop! why start and what drives us to start. this fire under ur ass needs to be identified and captured, diversified and understood and conceptualized in order for anything a.i. to produce a form of result with any pliability and function. – by winning is evrytng

human brain & body(11:07am EST Sat Sep 30 2006)
the intelligence associated with human beings can only be understood by human beings and this can only be a result of human beings born and brought up by human beings. the physical and the emotional, information interpreted to form the “know”, recognition of “is” and walking in the direction of “thus”, to separate any of the above from its origin of adaptation, impossible and unstable. a true creation is that of unending evolution and so will be any form of a.i. that carries any resemblance to our own, yet will be challenged and destroyed by our own engrained fears and talent for survival. – by try fighting a wolf!

Heaven, what a concept!(11:29am EST Sat Sep 30 2006)
we will evolve into a self sufficient machine, not of one local physical embodiment, but of many networked into a matrix-like environment that is meant for one thing… pleasure.total immersion and physical liberation! i mean liberation from the confines of our physical.this is only an interpretation as the physical is far greater than our little minds can begin to comprehend. its true that the mind sees what it wants thru brobability and difference thresholds! – by Hell YA!