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\r\n I just got the 2 blade with the chisel tips and the package says to use the collars is your shooting in thicker brush to help keep the blades from opening up early if they hit something while in flit. I mostly hunt on the edges of fields so I opted not to use them.\r\n

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\r\n I don\'t want to sound like an old fart but I\'ll allow it for a moment. The majority of the sponsor rich shows using rage heads hardly ever show a pass-through. In a perfect world they would barely get through and drop on the ground. Not neccessarily needed to drill 6" into the dirt after (unused energy). But actually pass through, you know, to give you another hole to leak from so you have a better chance to find your critter. I am biassed, I still prefer the Snyper, a 1 3/8 cut head, from which the design of the Rage was BOUGHT. They made the cut bigger, and the tip more blunt. Great. Thanks. Pay all you want Rage into the hunting shows, I ain\'t buying untill I see that 2" head falling on the off side from a 29/60 bow. Untill then, I still got Snypers.\r\n

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\r\n I tried the 2 blade Rage 2in cut last year and at a 30 foot almost straight down shot, it did the job but after looking at the skinned carcus it looked like one blade did not deploy but it still put him down within 50 yards. This year I bought six of the 2 blade 2in rage chisel bit and I think they will do better and I\'ve heard great reviews. I\'m running them without the plastic washer.\r\n

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\r\n up date on my new rage broad heads with the chisel tips. these things suck.... they didn\'t open on entery, they did open on exit. clean pass through but the deer didnt bleed at all and when i shot her just jumped a little bit and just walked away like nothing was wrong. she was wagging her tail a lot but thats it. then 1 1/2 hrs later i i started tracking her and she was laying down in the woods about 50 yards from where i shot her and was still alive. good thing i keep 2 of my arrows with my old muzzys still and finished her off with them. i dont think i will be using the rage ever again.\r\n

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\r\n A. Where was the hit?\r\nB. Did you use the collars or no?\r\nBack to A. How high were you (in the stand, in feet, LOL)and how far was the deer? Where did you hit it?\r\nI ask because I have yet to see a lung shot or heart shot deer walk away wagging it\'s tail. They blast off. I\'m not bashing, but it sounds from what you described, like a gut shot. I have had that senario myself. It was not a fault of the head in my case. I hit just back of where I should have.\r\nBody position, full/empty stomack, inhale/exhale, (the deer\'s) all make a difference on where the diaphram is, and the lungs.\r\n

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\r\n I have encounter the rage heads openning up , while I\'m moving my nock bow around in the treestand at times ! \r\n\r\nI\'ll have to take a look at the new ones , as they are said to have address this problem , I guess ! \r\n\r\n\r\n

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\r\n I guess i\'m the odd man out here!!!I still love and use Slick tricks,great for killing cats among otherthings!!!!!! ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp I just Peed myself laughing Mate\r\n

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I guess i\'m the odd man out here!!!I still love and use Slick tricks,great for killing cats among otherthings!!!!!! ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp I just Peed myself laughing Mate

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I did see a cat while out hunting the timber today ! \r\n\r\nI passed on it ! \r\n\r\n\r\n

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