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Another angle to consider here, Reggie and Dennis are still unproven at their jobs, right? So if you're a household name coordinator do you want to hitch your wagon to this group?

That could explain the lack of ability to attract an already successful OC. This crew will make their bones together or probably be replaced together.

I'd rather have them succeed.....

Obviously, I'd like them to succeed as well. I really like DA, but if the offense fails again and we need another change, do you see him staying? Especially when that would most likely mean changes at RB and QB? If he fails at finding a decent OC twice, that's not good.

I totally agree we are not attractive to household OC's, but I think Reggie will be able to attract a good coach in year three if need be. Seems pretty obvious he and Mark are trying to rebuild the front office and create a much more NfL friendly organization. I don't think he'd fire Reggie in year three, but I do think he wants to win like his father and another subpar season will drive him nuts.

For those scorning us for talking smack about the hire before he has even coached a game...his track record speaks for it self, and with it, he should be the one trying to prove to everyone else that he's worthy of being the OC.

Until proven wrong, we have all the right to doubt Allen and McKinzie' decision...After all, Allen did lead us to an outstanding 4-12 record last season.

Mike Martz won a SB with the Rams as an OC and hasn't come close since,Chicago,SF did squat with his offense,was it the play calling or the players? If every team Martz coached had the likes of a Warner,Faulk and group of recievers to fit what he wanted to do he'd have more than one SB......but he didn't . We don't have the players or the consistancy or the fundementals to be successful right now.....we just don't. The only thing that has been consistant over the past decade is Lechler and Jano..........that's it!

It's only a matter of time bro that is why keeping him for another year is a big waste of time .We already know what the man can do , but more importantly we know what he can't do get players to go all out for him.

My point is this - if you were a fan of the team that hired this coordinator, odds are, you could have looked up his past performances on profootballreference; odds are, you would have noticed that this man had not engineered a top-10 offense in ten years.

Dennis Allen didn't get to be a secondary coach, defensive coordinator and eventually head coach by being dumb. Olsen might be an underwhelming hire, but I trust DA knows more about the people he's hiring then we do, reading secondary accounts.

No doubt huh?

Those in here that claim to be more football savvy than the guys who do this for a living are a joke.

It's only a matter of time bro that is why keeping him for another year is a big waste of time .We already know what the man can do , but more importantly we know what he can't do get players to go all out for him.

I don't think it would have mattered who we hired. This post would still be created.

This staff cannot win in some of your eyes.

I created this post because OC for DA was a big hire and he might have just messed it up (again). If this OC fails, DA fails. Don't people get it?

Is Reggie really willing to let DA fire and hire another guy, or stick with one that sucks going forward?

Hey, I don't know how this guy will pan out. But I will prepare myself nonetheless to be less dissapointed if/when he proves how much he sucks.

A lot of fans mad at this because they probably see how bad of a hire this just might be. But optimists, don't fool yourselves. A lot rides on Olsen. We'll see soon enough if every Tampa Bay fan is right about his awful play-calling. I sure hoep to God not but I'm gonna sit back and hope to be surprised because I aint expecting a lot.

I'm not stoked with the hire by any means. This hire gave me a very bad feeling about DA and RM's ability to find a talented OC. These are defensive guys and I have a feeling we will see the benefits of that, along with RM's ability to fin good personel. But I have a feeling the OP is right if he fails.

Just like you shouldn't turn over your HC every year, you can't change our OC as well. If Olsen fails, Reggie needs to find either an offensive HC or a veteran HC that will attract good coordinators.

So yes...if he fails, Allen will probably follow IMO.

I agree, I have confidence in Reggie to scout and drfat players as well as the confidence in DA/Tarver to turn the defense into a force. But the offense? Like I've been saying, if this guy is as bad a play-caller as he gets credit for, this does not look good.