If you were shocked when Donald Trump won the 2016 election, especially given the vitriolic nature of the campaign, maybe you should have been watching more Bravo. As Taffy Brodesser-Akner wrote in a New York Times Magazineprofile of Andy Cohen, the Watch What Happens Live host said the election wasn’t all that different from what audiences see on The Real Housewives.

Akner wrote that she and Cohen, the executive producer of The Real Housewives franchise, discussed the parallels in the election season and that of some of the most memorable Housewives moments:

“He wanted to know why everyone he knew was so surprised about all of this,” Akner wrote. “I’d been watching the show, hadn’t I? I’d seen Tamra from ‘Orange County’ call Alexis ‘Jesus Jugs,’ hadn’t I? How was that different from calling Hillary Clinton ‘Crooked Hillary’? I’d watched in the primaries as Trump defended the size of his penis, right? Wouldn’t that be the province of the Housewives if they were men?”

Cohen, who reportedly spent Election Night at Sarah Jessica Parker’s house, told Akner that he left the room to eat after he saw where the results were headed. But despite feeling the blow of Election Night, Cohen had been watching the patterns throughout the election season—and noticing the parallels to Housewives.

“At the debates, the candidates fought for time to speak and demanded that they be allowed the time they were promised, which is what happens at the [Real Housewives] reunions,” Akner wrote. “When Cohen saw that, he told me, he thought, Lester Holt, I feel your pain.”

In October, Cohen tweeted and later deleted his thoughts on how The Real Housewives cast members would vote. In his comments, the famously pro-Hillary host reportedly wrote, “I so don’t care, it’s all good,” when it came to his Trump-supporting cast members.

Now, as Inauguration Day looms, Akner writes that Cohen’s political thoughts are (perhaps cautiously) optimistic ones:

“I asked him what was going to happen next,” she said. “He shrugged and opened his mouth to say something, pausing for what felt like a minute. Then he told me that it was all going to be O.K., and I decided to believe him.”

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