Via Time Travel, Do TPTB Find Out Which People Will Be a Threat to Them in the Future...

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Do TPTB time travel and find out which people will be a threat to them in the future, and then abduct them as kids to thwart that future threat?

Quoting: Thor's Hamster

Not very likely. There are several possible reasons why this is not a logical reason.

First off, it would not be a person that causes the PTB any headaches. None of us are John Conner. People can be so easily removed, that the thought of a mere person standing in the way is almost laughable.

It would take a thing. Not necessarily a specific something, but more like an event. A universal epiphany. A collective awakening that so startles the population because it would be so simple, and yet so lasting.

Not an economic or social epiphany, but one formed from the need to be free. The need to join in a world of separatists. A need for freedom from a world of collectiveness. A world of sanctity from a world of state sponsored debauchery. A reawakening of one's need and belief in a true GOD over the harpings of a state ordered agnostic religion.

The only thing that threatens TPTB is the fear that we will no longer have a fear of them. Fear is their only power. They would prefer us to be in constant fear of what they may do, what they may cause, what they may create against us. But fear is all they have ever held over us. Once the fear is gone, their power is gone. They know it, and that is the only real thing that they fear from us.

Quoting: 071676

you are right. although it is also true that the concentric waves of freedom emerge from initial points of awareness in the quantum ocean.and as is well known that is impossible to predict by observing the ocean were those quantic triggers will appeartheir only choice was to try prepare as best they could using fear and diversion to postpone the initial eventand to try withstand the incoming wave when it will emergeand as they are smart enough to observe that the wave is already emerging...

Quoting: andreidita

It still goes back to what I have been saying. They will use anything, including the threat of unending war to regain their control over us. The biggest problem is that they are also aware that we are now more aware of them then ever before, and that scares them. What has happened for centuries no longer creates the national or emotional furor that has controlled us for so long. We no longer are controlled by the same old tired reasonings that got our grandfathers to rise up in anger against our neighbors.

They will have to form some other justification for their mongering in order to continue their control. That spark that use to be so easy to spread into a warring fire does not sell. People are tired of war. People are tired of being under someone else's rule. People are now starting to awaken from the fact that they have always been sheep, but now they are starting to grow the same teeth as the wolves. People are starting to stand up for themselves and be unafraid.

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It still goes back to what I have been saying. They will use anything, including the threat of unending war to regain their control over us. The biggest problem is that they are also aware that we are now more aware of them then ever before, and that scares them. What has happened for centuries no longer creates the national or emotional furor that has controlled us for so long. We no longer are controlled by the same old tired reasonings that got our grandfathers to rise up in anger against our neighbors.

They will have to form some other justification for their mongering in order to continue their control. That spark that use to be so easy to spread into a warring fire does not sell. People are tired of war. People are tired of being under someone else's rule. People are now starting to awaken from the fact that they have always been sheep, but now they are starting to grow the same teeth as the wolves. People are starting to stand up for themselves and be unafraid.

Quoting: 071676

yep. it is funny that now in romania we will soon have parliamentary elections.it's only the 7th time after the communism fell, but people already don't buy into the whole thing. 2/3 of the population does not vote, because they know they are all the same, and don't buy anymore in their fake reality.until 4 years ago many still bought into the trap, investing feelings and emotions.but now there is so evident for almost everybody, that the event is almost non-existent

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Do TPTB time travel and find out which people will be a threat to them in the future, and then abduct them as kids to thwart that future threat?

Quoting: Thor's Hamster

Not very likely. There are several possible reasons why this is not a logical reason.

First off, it would not be a person that causes the PTB any headaches. None of us are John Conner. People can be so easily removed, that the thought of a mere person standing in the way is almost laughable.

It would take a thing. Not necessarily a specific something, but more like an event. A universal epiphany. A collective awakening that so startles the population because it would be so simple, and yet so lasting.

Not an economic or social epiphany, but one formed from the need to be free. The need to join in a world of separatists. A need for freedom from a world of collectiveness. A world of sanctity from a world of state sponsored debauchery. A reawakening of one's need and belief in a true GOD over the harpings of a state ordered agnostic religion.

The only thing that threatens TPTB is the fear that we will no longer have a fear of them. Fear is their only power. They would prefer us to be in constant fear of what they may do, what they may cause, what they may create against us. But fear is all they have ever held over us. Once the fear is gone, their power is gone. They know it, and that is the only real thing that they fear from us.

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It still goes back to what I have been saying. They will use anything, including the threat of unending war to regain their control over us. The biggest problem is that they are also aware that we are now more aware of them then ever before, and that scares them. What has happened for centuries no longer creates the national or emotional furor that has controlled us for so long. We no longer are controlled by the same old tired reasonings that got our grandfathers to rise up in anger against our neighbors.

They will have to form some other justification for their mongering in order to continue their control. That spark that use to be so easy to spread into a warring fire does not sell. People are tired of war. People are tired of being under someone else's rule. People are now starting to awaken from the fact that they have always been sheep, but now they are starting to grow the same teeth as the wolves. People are starting to stand up for themselves and be unafraid.

Quoting: 071676

yep. it is funny that now in romania we will soon have parliamentary elections.it's only the 7th time after the communism fell, but people already don't buy into the whole thing. 2/3 of the population does not vote, because they know they are all the same, and don't buy anymore in their fake reality.until 4 years ago many still bought into the trap, investing feelings and emotions.but now there is so evident for almost everybody, that the event is almost non-existent

Quoting: andreidita

This is true. It is what I have been saying. The US can not reawaken the human spirit, but it can be a beacon that brings light for the world to see.

It will take more than the US to stand up against the TPTB. It will take the world. The entire world. The more people are awakened to the struggle, the more people will join. It is a natural emotion to long to be free. If the greatest country in the world, that was built upon the dream of freedom, can not be a spark for world-wide freedom, then man is cursed to forever be enslaved.

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This is true. It is what I have been saying. The US can not reawaken the human spirit, but it can be a beacon that brings light for the world to see.

It will take more than the US to stand up against the TPTB. It will take the world. The entire world. The more people are awakened to the struggle, the more people will join. It is a natural emotion to long to be free. If the greatest country in the world, that was built upon the dream of freedom, can not be a spark for world-wide freedom, then man is cursed to forever be enslaved.

Quoting: 071676

you have enough kindled spiritual sparks for you as a nation to achieve your part...this is one of the things i have observed on this forum, and one of the motives for being here...although you have a considerable opposition to overcome also...in terms of fear mongerers...who come in various flavors also...and i think you know their types very well

:)

p.s.the human spirit has already been reawakened in that upper plane where Humanity as Spirit dwells

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This theory could explain a lot. If this has even a remote possibility of a spec of truth, it could explain so many events. People disappearing, people dying, people targeted. Most won't believe in this remote possibility, thus problems (people) are taken care of before they become a problem.

I find myself wondering if we have the ability to "mask" or "cover" our thoughts & future potentials. If this theory has even a shred of truth, then anything may be possible.

I am NOT a new age follower, but I do believe that we have unlimited ability to effect change on our own futures & we can direct our potentials. It may be time to manually manipulate our own potentials. Please be careful & cautious. Our thoughts & desires may have unbelieveable effects on our future.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14010048

Between this and 071676's post I believe that even if TPTB do use time travel to snatch someone, it would not do any good. There are more of us in conscious than there are of them. It is our collective consciousness that will see us through. They can't snatch us all. In truth, the only time that matters is now. Most would a agree that major players create major paradox so if you were to be significant enough to cause a problem for them they still could not take you out of the equation without causing a paradox in space/time. It would just a be a waste of time. They probably already figured this out long ago. What matters now is NOW. How you feel NOW. Because this is the time they (TPTB) feared. They need you to have negative thoughts and feelings (it doesn't matter who it's directed to-even to them) in order to keep you from moving into a dimension that they can't enter. Their materialism, their need for control, and their inability to love without condition won't allow them to rise into the higher level which is inter-meshed with the one we all grew up with right NOW.

I saw a post on this thread that mentioned that they couldn't/can't see past 2012. To me this makes sense because the dimensions that are meshed together will split. They cannot see what they do not render. Thereby they cannot control it. A paradox...you see?

Those that are realizing their full potential and wish to shrug themselves of this dimension will be given a chance to do so. If you live in fear and worries of the material world you will be staying for another long round of 3-D misery. You MUST wake up and realize how much they've kept from you. You MUST wake up and realize your potential. You MUST wake up and not fear anymore that something bad is going to happen on 12/21/12. There is nothing left to fear. They are not as powerful as they pretend to be. Also they know if you are already spirit when the time comes they have no power at all. Why would they kill you when it only makes you stronger than them? Spirit does what it wants and it wants to rise high.

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Between this and 071676's post I believe that even if TPTB do use time travel to snatch someone, it would not do any good. There are more of us in conscious than there are of them. It is our collective consciousness that will see us through. They can't snatch us all. In truth, the only time that matters is now. Most would a agree that major players create major paradox so if you were to be significant enough to cause a problem for them they still could not take you out of the equation without causing a paradox in space/time. It would just a be a waste of time. They probably already figured this out long ago. What matters now is NOW. How you feel NOW. Because this is the time they (TPTB) feared. They need you to have negative thoughts and feelings (it doesn't matter who it's directed to-even to them) in order to keep you from moving into a dimension that they can't enter. Their materialism, their need for control, and their inability to love without condition won't allow them to rise into the higher level which is inter-meshed with the one we all grew up with right NOW.

I saw a post on this thread that mentioned that they couldn't/can't see past 2012. To me this makes sense because the dimensions that are meshed together will split. They cannot see what they do not render. Thereby they cannot control it. A paradox...you see?

Those that are realizing their full potential and wish to shrug themselves of this dimension will be given a chance to do so. If you live in fear and worries of the material world you will be staying for another long round of 3-D misery. You MUST wake up and realize how much they've kept from you. You MUST wake up and realize your potential. You MUST wake up and not fear anymore that something bad is going to happen on 12/21/12. There is nothing left to fear. They are not as powerful as they pretend to be. Also they know if you are already spirit when the time comes they have no power at all. Why would they kill you when it only makes you stronger than them? Spirit does what it wants and it wants to rise high.

Quoting: Kissplash

and the beauty of it is that you do not need to know any secret knowledge or know some special technique to ground in one's spirit.

it comes down giving one's best to be loving and kind in the moment (although the record of the past counts).

and then to have the courage to trust those moments of elevation that each of us had his share in life. those moments of pure cosmic consciousness.

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We cannot time travel. Period.

Imagine though if we could. Travel back to the beginning of creation and see God at work. Travel to the end of time and see His return.

Or if you don't believe in God, you could still zip around and see our beginning chicken/egg predicament and our eventual demise.I'm sure the universe is littered with civilizations like ours with entire planets floating around in space lying in ruin from an ELE. Such tragedy without hope.Or even traveling to the end of our universe into nothingness. Imagine... nothing existing?

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The looking glass involves stationary quicksilver engine. Time travel is possible and is used often. Even insects use time travel concepts to survive. Time lines change all the time, you just don't notice it.

Lady bugs fly due to energy collected from the wings, not air pushed like many are taught. They hover via electro-magneto forces. Just watch them fly, you'll soon realize their flight path is impossible from the size of their wings.

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I dreamt I time travelled to 1970 with an iPod and listened to U2. Folks were wondering what was in my ears so I shared the music with them. They were astounded about the technology as I told them the music is like 20 years ahead of its time.

"Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'dAround their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy(...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty)

"Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge"

"The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961

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Do TPTB time travel and find out which people will be a threat to them in the future, and then abduct them as kids to thwart that future threat?

Quoting: Thor's Hamster

Not very likely. There are several possible reasons why this is not a logical reason.

First off, it would not be a person that causes the PTB any headaches. None of us are John Conner. People can be so easily removed, that the thought of a mere person standing in the way is almost laughable.

It would take a thing. Not necessarily a specific something, but more like an event. A universal epiphany. A collective awakening that so startles the population because it would be so simple, and yet so lasting.

Not an economic or social epiphany, but one formed from the need to be free. The need to join in a world of separatists. A need for freedom from a world of collectiveness. A world of sanctity from a world of state sponsored debauchery. A reawakening of one's need and belief in a true GOD over the harpings of a state ordered agnostic religion.

The only thing that threatens TPTB is the fear that we will no longer have a fear of them. Fear is their only power. They would prefer us to be in constant fear of what they may do, what they may cause, what they may create against us. But fear is all they have ever held over us. Once the fear is gone, their power is gone. They know it, and that is the only real thing that they fear from us.

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JFK, MLK, RFK

Quoting: Thor's Hamster

they were the last of the martyrs, or maybe not...but as it takes one to be ready to be a martyr, for one to know in the end whether the time of martyrs is over or not...it does not really matter if that time is over, or not, to make up one's mind upon the matter...

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You just know they would if they could! I think some form of time travel exists but having read tons of sci-fi about paradoxes, time loops, butterfly effect and all that, it seems almost too much to wrap my head around. I need more coffee.

Then there's the question of different time lines and their possible convergences. What if a future threat was eliminated in one time line but he popped up again as a result of a merger with TPTB's original time line? It could be that is exactly happens sometimes and their efforts are thwarted.

Your question brings up the issue of what is happening to all the people, mostly children--who disappear every year? Without looking up the numbers I read not long ago, it is alarming. I find it hard to believe these are all individual random kidnappings or murders. Slave traders? Serial killers? Some, certainly. But there are just too many. I have sometime thought time travel had something to do with it.

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David Wilcock reports about Project Looking Glass, and the 12/21/2012 'wall of light' no one could really get past. This is the half shift in human consciousness with public disclosure of past and present crimes against humanity, where the world announces in unison that enslavement to false debt is no longer an acceptable modus operandi as per corporate driven world developing policy, and instead true humanitarian compassion based unity reflecting societal systems shall be implemented and further developed at both the high end bureaucratic and grassroots practical functioning of daily life for now and our future.

When the truth is fully revealed by the people at the top who are ready to step up into their place, and believe me when I say almost all of those people are not in government, media or the corporate world right now, the freeing of humanity's collective mental and emotional burdens (from misunderstanding and giving away their own power to create for themselves what they pay so much to have others provide instead) will result in a spiritual three days of 'darkness' where people reflect on their past, realize the higher purpose, and reconcile with higher consciousness to allow its embodiment and continued survival within an ascending planetary sphere.

There is so much to tell but it can mostly be broken down into a relatively few and short main discourses, and several secondary more detailed supporting presentations.

And the people will rejoice, realizing the full truth that in general, unless explicitly expressed otherwise, there is no corporate jurisdiction, there is no money and therefore there is no real debt, so technically we are free because the full truth is that we have more than enough to make this already amazingly abundant planet even moreso filled with life, by being its stewards, and farming its grace, and sharing that with the entire 3D-5D universe.

This planet is destined for something very special, hence why we have so much extraterrestrial and higher dimensional assistance and guidance right now, helping us all see/hear/feel/know true intentions and results if we are open and focused.

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As for the ladybug, it can instinctively harness the aether where free energy comes from. All of creation, this illusion, comes down to different levels of vibration and sound. The ladybug is simply catching a wave, a vibration, harnessing a frequency with limitless power!