It turns out, that the first step in getting the newsgroups here propagated
is they have to be renamed. "D" just wasn't unique enough <g>. But renaming
the D newsgroup will screw up a lot of things. So, two new newsgroups have
been created:
digitalmars.D
digitalmars.D.bugs
In digitalmars.D.bugs should go bug reports and followups to them. Please
don't put in here questions about D, or proposed new features, etc. It
should be bug reports only, which will make it much easier for people to
peruse to see if they are experiencing a reported bug or not.
In digitalmars.D should go everything else about D that formerly went into
the D newsgroup.
For ongoing existing threads in the D newsgroup, continue posting in D but
please just add digitalmars.D to the newsgroup list it will be posted to.
The old D newsgroup will remain. If someone is willing to write some
software that would convert it to a linked set of 40,000 html pages <g> that
would be cool. Anyone up for that? Doing that would mean we can a) retire
the group and b) it will be indexed by Google.
Thanks,
-Walter

"Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> wrote in message
news:c6k7pr$20qs$1 digitaldaemon.com
| It turns out, that the first step in getting the newsgroups here
propagated
| is they have to be renamed. "D" just wasn't unique enough <g>. But
renaming
| the D newsgroup will screw up a lot of things. So, two new newsgroups have
| been created:
|
| digitalmars.D
| digitalmars.D.bugs
|
| In digitalmars.D.bugs should go bug reports and followups to them. Please
| don't put in here questions about D, or proposed new features, etc. It
| should be bug reports only, which will make it much easier for people to
| peruse to see if they are experiencing a reported bug or not.
|
| In digitalmars.D should go everything else about D that formerly went into
| the D newsgroup.
|
| For ongoing existing threads in the D newsgroup, continue posting in D but
| please just add digitalmars.D to the newsgroup list it will be posted to.
|
| The old D newsgroup will remain. If someone is willing to write some
| software that would convert it to a linked set of 40,000 html pages <g>
that
| would be cool. Anyone up for that? Doing that would mean we can a) retire
| the group and b) it will be indexed by Google.
|
| Thanks,
| -Walter
I guess you and Jan are the ones to thank.
Hey! First one to post here! Yay!
-----------------------
Carlos Santander Bernal

The old D newsgroup will remain. If someone is willing to write some
software that would convert it to a linked set of 40,000 html pages <g> that
would be cool. Anyone up for that? Doing that would mean we can a) retire
the group and b) it will be indexed by Google.

The articles are convertable, it is just a LOT of work.
When Linda is in Vegas/Mexico by the end of next month I might get to it.
Thanks!
Jan
--
ManiaC++
Jan Knepper
But as for me and my household, we shall use Mozilla...
www.mozilla.org

Why does the original D have to die (or be ignored)? I don't get it. It seems
like a mistake to me.
"Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> wrote in message
news:c6k7pr$20qs$1 digitaldaemon.com...

It turns out, that the first step in getting the newsgroups here propagated
is they have to be renamed. "D" just wasn't unique enough <g>. But renaming
the D newsgroup will screw up a lot of things. So, two new newsgroups have
been created:
digitalmars.D
digitalmars.D.bugs
In digitalmars.D.bugs should go bug reports and followups to them. Please
don't put in here questions about D, or proposed new features, etc. It
should be bug reports only, which will make it much easier for people to
peruse to see if they are experiencing a reported bug or not.
In digitalmars.D should go everything else about D that formerly went into
the D newsgroup.
For ongoing existing threads in the D newsgroup, continue posting in D but
please just add digitalmars.D to the newsgroup list it will be posted to.
The old D newsgroup will remain. If someone is willing to write some
software that would convert it to a linked set of 40,000 html pages <g> that
would be cool. Anyone up for that? Doing that would mean we can a) retire
the group and b) it will be indexed by Google.
Thanks,
-Walter

Why does the original D have to die (or be ignored)? I don't get it. It

seems

like a mistake to me.

Because with a one letter name for the forum, it will never get propagated
and (as far as I can tell) google will not index it. It's normal practice in
the industry to prefix the company name to private newsgroups, and then
sometimes others will pick them up and propagate them. Some examples are:
microsoft.*
borland.*
openwatcom.*
etc. Basically, it's being a good news citizen to name them this way.

Why does the original D have to die (or be ignored)? I don't get it.
It seems like a mistake to me.

Because with a one letter name for the forum, it will never get
propagated and (as far as I can tell) google will not index it. It's
normal practice in the industry to prefix the company name to private
newsgroups, and then sometimes others will pick them up and propagate
them. Some examples are:
microsoft.*
borland.*
openwatcom.*
etc. Basically, it's being a good news citizen to name them this way.

Walter D: going for volume marketing and sheeple appeal? And what about
those wayyyy over-priced conferences of yours? Would do the participants do
better with my suggestions for best compiler books? Or giving you boku
money? What were you thinking dude? How important do you think you are?
Don't disquise your need as value when it is a charity event. Get some
humility, bitch.

The old D newsgroup will remain. If someone is willing to write some
software that would convert it to a linked set of 40,000 html pages <g>

that

would be cool. Anyone up for that? Doing that would mean we can a) retire
the group and b) it will be indexed by Google.

Ok, half-way there.

Marc,
Sounds good. Also, is there a chance that you could slightly modify the
converter tool so that email addresses could be mangled a bit so that
spam-bots don't come through and harvest all of the addresses?
BA

What is done:
Downlaoded 28647 messages
Verified that there is no duplicates Message-ID
each message converted to 1 .eml file
(using dbxconv, found on the net)
each eml file converted to 1 html file
(using eml2html.c, which i created for this task)
To do:
linking them
producing an index by date, thread, ...
use a style sheet for the presentation
better presentation (Color, Font, ...)
What to do with attachements
3 files cannot be opened - to be fixed
besides From, Date and Subject, want to use
other fields ?
Walter: I took the liberty to reuse your logo just keep
a look similar to your site.
The program ( eml2html.c ) is GNU
Please give your comments and ideas.
Who will hosts the 30000 html files ?
Marc

Sounds good. Also, is there a chance that you could slightly modify the
converter tool so that email addresses could be mangled a bit so that
spam-bots don't come through and harvest all of the addresses?

Yes.
Is "brad[AT]sankaty{DOT}dot{DOT}com" mangled enough ?
Another way is to simply removed all email adresses.
Marc

Sounds good. Also, is there a chance that you could slightly modify the
converter tool so that email addresses could be mangled a bit so that
spam-bots don't come through and harvest all of the addresses?

Yes.
Is "brad[AT]sankaty{DOT}dot{DOT}com" mangled enough ?

That should be fine. I already did a bit of mangling, but others haven't.

Another way is to simply removed all email adresses.

I think leaving them is probably better, because you can then track the
person down if you want to ask them a question about the post. Make sense?
Thanks for this effort !!
BA

It turns out, that the first step in getting the newsgroups here
propagated is they have to be renamed.

Ah, mass-marketing. A sign of a dead company. Rember Borland? Walter, surely
you can relate. Borland circa 1993. Continued the downhill for 2 decades.
Are you on the same path?
OK, no more consulting for D. That's all I have to say. Good luck. Don't
kill yourself or anyone else. When you are ready to shut down this IT
project gone awry, you can throw me a million dollars and show you how to
make money from the ashes.
(I am sooo bad!!!)

It turns out, that the first step in getting the newsgroups here
propagated is they have to be renamed.

Ah, mass-marketing. A sign of a dead company. Rember Borland? Walter,
surely you can relate. Borland circa 1993. Continued the downhill for
2 decades. Are you on the same path?
OK, no more consulting for D. That's all I have to say. Good luck.
Don't kill yourself or anyone else. When you are ready to shut down
this IT project gone awry, you can throw me a million dollars and
show you how to make money from the ashes.
(I am sooo bad!!!)