Gee Ingie, drowning doesn't seem to be the problem. The lake is poisonous. I have tried every which way I know, but after 10 or so seconds (not nearly enough time), boom! I'm dead in a puddle of blood with no magic left. Poop! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" />

Thanks Nickie - yes I am invisible, my vitality (red bar) stays fine, my blue bar runs down very slowly, and after a very short period of time, about 1/4 of the way to the flag (starting due west of it), I'm dead, no magic, but full vitality. I noticed at one point when I went back to the shore and returned myself to visibility, my mana still was running down. Maybe a glitch or a bug? Has anyone played as the female thief and made it across?

I posted at the Larian board and the reply was, "It should work." Well, it's not! I can't even get in sight of the land.

Nickie, Ok I was going to the wrong well, I knew I had to go back to baddies at the barracks, but wasn't sure there first or sewers first. First time I found it, I popped down to say hi do and about a million, ok, hundred..oh alright about 10 lizards jumped me-nasties.I know several things I'm going to have to obtain, and the cheapest is at the Blue Boar Inn through the elf healer..I've become so greedy!Ah, poisioning does not sound good Marion, I hope you get help before I get there!!Which will be in a very long time...Having fun though!Ingie

Marion, I'm not trying to belabor a point, I'm just trying to make sure we're talking on the same page. You're using the spell that turns you into a ghost, right? And not just the one that makes you "invisible"?

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Nickie - you're not belaboring a point...you're being thorough and I appreciate that. The spells you are referring to are "Fade From Sight" which is invisibility and "Embrace Shadows" which just makes you harder to see in dim light. I am using "Fade From Sight" on level two. I should have plenty of magic (and I do!) to get across. It runs down a little at a time for about the first 10-12 seconds that I am going across. Then the blue bar goes completely empty and I end up on my back in a pool of blood.

I'm not at home so don't have Larian's link here to look, but "Fade from Sight" is not the spell you need here. There is an actual spirit spell, but I can't remember the exact name. It turns you into a spirit. I'll see if I can pull it up here, somewhere.

It is definitely not either of the two skills you mentioned, and Jean is right that it is under the Path of the Divine in the Way of the Survivor. Just can't remember the name of it either, something with spirit in it perhaps?

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