Kraftster wrote:So my wife has just informed me that Homeland is coming back in May at 10:00 PM. The same time as Breaking Bad. Showtime and AMC are a**holes.

don't think you need to worry, I'm almost 100% certain it's not coming back until Fall 2013.

Watched the finale last night and I say it just about every episode, but they know how to do intensity. Great show

I guess they want to take advantage of the final season of Dexter by putting something else in the post-Dexter slot. Similarly, take advantage of the Homeland success with something else in the pre-Dexter slot. I'll see if she can substantiate this.

It's a great show. Some episodes get way out there, but overall, it's been a good show. I've noticed when they actually focus on fantasy football for the episode, those are some of the weaker ones. When there is very little fantasy football, it usually is a great episode.

aside from pretending that anyone involved in the show knows anything about football, the only other problem i have with it is the gay joke schtick they always do. i don't get offended or anything, it's just really lazy, terrible attempts at humor.

Quinn has grown on me, he was awesome last night sitting in Estes room with the gun. Loved Saul saying "you’re the smartest and the dumbest F'n person I’ve ever known.” to Carrie. The Javert poke at Estes was also superb. Great ending.

shmenguin wrote:aside from pretending that anyone involved in the show knows anything about football, the only other problem i have with it is the gay joke schtick they always do. i don't get offended or anything, it's just really lazy, terrible attempts at humor.

It doesn't bother me yet in the League, but in the Simpsons, the Homer and his gay stuff all the time got worn out and old and they continue to do it like every other episode.

Quinn has grown on me, he was awesome last night sitting in Estes room with the gun. Loved Saul saying "you’re the smartest and the dumbest F'n person I’ve ever known.” to Carrie. The Javert poke at Estes was also superb. Great ending.

Spoiler:

I like the possibilities that we are left with going into season 3:

(1) Brody has been playing Carrie and was in on the bombing. I'll be very excited if this is the case. Something about their whole thing being 100% genuine and mutual on both sides will bother me.

(2) The "mole" is really the centerpiece, and the mole must be Saul. Saul is really the only one left unless we are going to be introduced to a whole new character who has somehow been involved in everything, but we haven't seen him yet. Saul as the mole will be stunning but potentially awesome.

In this scenario Brody was being truthful when he explained the explosion as saying that they'd been played. Saul will spend the season manipulating Carrie and trying to focus in on Brody and tracking him down, while someone (Carrie?) begins to suspect Saul.

I don't really see any other options for where they can go than one of those two.

Quinn has grown on me, he was awesome last night sitting in Estes room with the gun. Loved Saul saying "you’re the smartest and the dumbest F'n person I’ve ever known.” to Carrie. The Javert poke at Estes was also superb. Great ending.

Spoiler:

I like the possibilities that we are left with going into season 3:

(1) Brody has been playing Carrie and was in on the bombing. I'll be very excited if this is the case. Something about their whole thing being 100% genuine and mutual on both sides will bother me.

(2) The "mole" is really the centerpiece, and the mole must be Saul. Saul is really the only one left unless we are going to be introduced to a whole new character who has somehow been involved in everything, but we haven't seen him yet. Saul as the mole will be stunning but potentially awesome.

In this scenario Brody was being truthful when he explained the explosion as saying that they'd been played. Saul will spend the season manipulating Carrie and trying to focus in on Brody and tracking him down, while someone (Carrie?) begins to suspect Saul.

I don't really see any other options for where they can go than one of those two.

Spoiler:

I wondered about Brody playing Carrie, but I got the feeling this season wrote itself out of that story a little.

Saul being a mole is certainly interesting. I think we'll find out a lot more about F Murray Abraham (Dar Adal-from the diner meeting with Saul). I feel like he will have a big part going forward

blackjack68 wrote:Finally hooked up my Direct TV to internet and therefore their On Demand service.

Think I will start watching Dexter from the beginning...worth it?

I hear it's good, but have never seen one episode.

i'd say no. i watched it up until this season. it was one long disappointment. and if you've never seen the deb character, consider yourself lucky

I would give it a shot. The first 3-4 seasons are really good, especially the Trinity Killer season. 5-7 are enjoyable, but nowhere near those first few seasons. I like season 7 more than 6 but less than 5, FWIW.

Like you, I will watch several seasons in a short amount of time. I watched 1-4 in a few weeks two years ago, then watched 5 in chunks as it aired. I really like that way of watching serial TV, as you can see arcs much more clearly and so on.

Finally got to watch it. Definitely one of the better episodes in a while, mainly because it went back to the story line, and wasn't a filler episode. Looking back, how they tied in the last 2 or 3 episodes, it was pretty good.

I think now in 2013, you are going to see better episodes because it will build up to the wedding and finally climax at Ted meeting the mother.

I'll be back for more. At least finish Season 1 before making a decision.

You can speed things up by skipping every story arc that doesn't directly involve dexter. The biggest problem with this show is that it has one of the worst supporting casts on television.

See, I think its almost intentional and perhaps necessary.

i think deb is intentionally annoying, yes. but everyone else is just an unhappy accident. look at the laguarda/batista romance plot...that was just about the worst thing i've ever sat through. and not a hint of irony involved. and every quinn story has been a big bowl of nothing. they struck it rich with michael c hall and a great overall premise, but have butchered almost everything else along the way. and if jon lithgow wasn't so brilliant in his season, this show would be seen very differently right now, imo.

I'll be back for more. At least finish Season 1 before making a decision.

You can speed things up by skipping every story arc that doesn't directly involve dexter. The biggest problem with this show is that it has one of the worst supporting casts on television.

See, I think its almost intentional and perhaps necessary.

i think deb is intentionally annoying, yes. but everyone else is just an unhappy accident. look at the laguarda/batista romance plot...that was just about the worst thing i've ever sat through. and not a hint of irony involved. and every quinn story has been a big bowl of nothing. they struck it rich with michael c hall and a great overall premise, but have butchered almost everything else along the way. and if jon lithgow wasn't so brilliant in his season, this show would be seen very differently right now, imo.

I just think that the premise of the show is such that those around Dexter almost have to be seen as clowns. Dexter and the central antagonist characters (killers), or even characters like Lundy, in each season stand out even more against the weak supporting cast. With Dexter, he sees people as something like caricatures. Its easier for the audience to see the world around Dexter through that Dexter lens with a weaker supporting cast. It would also be harder to suspend disbelief that a serial killer could love among these people so easily if they were sharp, quick characters.

I'm halfway through the first Dexter book, which parallels the first season. The supporting cast is portrayed as mediocre, if not bumbling, cops, except for Deb. She seems a half step behind Dexter in figuring things out, whereas everyone else is a half mile behind. And she is annoying in the book, too.

Digitalgypsy66 wrote:I'm halfway through the first Dexter book, which parallels the first season. The supporting cast is portrayed as mediocre, if not bumbling, cops, except for Deb. She seems a half step behind Dexter in figuring things out, whereas everyone else is a half mile behind. And she is annoying in the book, too.