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The blackface stuff was reported in VARIETY and/or THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER; my best friend subscribed to both and I remember him showing me the story after telling me about it.

One day, I'll check my old fan club newsletters. We definitely reported the event there, but not sure how thorough the editor was at stating original sources in those days. We had members in LA sending every relevant newsclipping about the making of ST II at the time.

I am in the process of reading Kelley's biography and in WOK there was a scene at least discussed (not filmed) where McCoy and Kirk would of had a moment to reflect on Spock's death.

This scene was forgo for the final scene between Kirk and his son. From a dramatic stand point I do understand why they decided to go with the son scene. Having Kirk's son accept his father in the end was obviously an important way to end their story.

However I think as a fan I would of rather seen that moment between Kirk and McCoy and their shared loss of Spock. That is the relationship I care about not Kirk and his son. After all Kirk and his son was only introduced in this movie whereas Kirk/McCoy/Spock was there from day one.

Well, I LOVE deleted/alternate scenes, so I'm extremely pleased of this post, keep it going.

However it would be much better if all the information were collected in a website, with pictures, script excerpts and videos. Reading the lists, and then all the replies (with corrections and extra info) can be quite confusing. Something like http://www.startrekhistory.com/ (which I also love, even if there are things I don't like). This is not a critic, just wishful thinking.

Finally, for those who haven't seen it yet, this is the page where I collected all the pictures of the alternate spacewalk scene from TMP, the Memory Wall scene.http://www.marcellorossi.info/Memory/Memory.html
It was definitely filmed, but not post produced. I believe the pictures leave no doubt about it.

Well, I LOVE deleted/alternate scenes, so I'm extremely pleased of this post, keep it going.

However it would be much better if all the information were collected in a website, with pictures, script excerpts and videos. Reading the lists, and then all the replies (with corrections and extra info) can be quite confusing. Something like http://www.startrekhistory.com/ (which I also love, even if there are things I don't like). This is not a critic, just wishful thinking.

Finally, for those who haven't seen it yet, this is the page where I collected all the pictures of the alternate spacewalk scene from TMP, the Memory Wall scene.http://www.marcellorossi.info/Memory/Memory.html
It was definitely filmed, but not post produced. I believe the pictures leave no doubt about it.

Most interesting, I didn't know that. However I believe you have to go there in person to watch it. (if I understood correctly this is what Grant did). But someone must have a color VHS copy, since excerpts are on YouTube, but I've never found anyone who had it.

Actually it comes directly from Paramount Archives. I live in Italy and I regularly write for the Official Star Trek Italian Magazine. So I had access to a large set of official pics from Paramount (and now from CBS), all in hi-res, and that one was among those. I've never seen it anywhere else, however it could also be in the TMP calendar, I do not own it.

I assume that lising at UCLA is correct, although the version I saw there is listed separately under the title "Pisces Project / Paramount."

According to the catalog listing (inventory number DVD4324 M): "A videotape of a b&w work print of work in progress, sent to the outside vendor who was cutting the theatrical trailer and TV spots; sent under the code name Pisces Project for the purpose of maintaining secrecy prior to the film’s release."

And also isn't again a ShoWest convention (more precisely in 2009) where the first J.J. Abrams Star Trek was shown un-announced before the official premiere? Brought in person by Leonard Nimoy? Instead of Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan?

Hmm, OK thanks, but what was exactly shown at ShoWest convention in 1982?
Maab

A mod here named Tim sent me a disk of it years back, and I'm pretty sure the only stuff on it that went unseen in the final cut was the Saavik heritage revelation and some of the dialog with everybody on the bridge at the end. i sure don't remember any others.

Maab, you're the kind of people I was hoping this thread would attract! I am hoping to make a full site of this someday, this is just practice.

P.S. First Contact may be a while. I'm on vacation and have no easy way of communicating with the TrekBBS. I would appreciate some help, though. There's only two scenes that I know of. You guys are all a big help!