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This is quite annoying, will o'wisp takes out fighting types (just watch for the guts) and the rest of the set is pretty self explanatory. Yes Umbreon does this set better but nobody else has put this so I thought might as well. Finally a set not involving sucker punch XD

I havn't seen a pokemon battle using beat up yet. In double or triple battles we can have a partner pokemon use beat up on absol instead. Even if absol isn't going to be accounted for the number of times beat up hits, a +5 attack boost from absol is something to watch out. However, with a 65/60/60 defensive power, we may need to get the partner's attack stat to be as low as possible.

abilities:
Pressure: costs 2pp instead of 1 to attack absol. it has poor defences so this could work only once, more if holding focus sash/band.

Super Luck: increases CHR (critical hit ratio). he can do lots of high critical hit moves so a better choice. to be honest im now confused on how it works. Serebii says it double the CHR stage; if CHR stage2(12.5%) it becomes stage 4(33.3%) look at the critical hit page in the game mechanics to know what i mean, while bulbapedia says it only ups it one stage, if it was stage 2(12.5%) it become stage 3(25%) serach critical hits to see what i mean.
so which is right?
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anyway finally justified its atk goes up a stage if hit by a dark type atk.

probably the best set in my opinion

Night Slash
Psycho Cut
Stone Edge
Sucker Punch

ability: Super Luck
item: scope lens/razor claw

either the item works as they do the same thing so pick your fancy. Night slash gets the STAB and like stone edge and psycho cut goes well with super luck. sucker punch gives Absol priority and is powered up with the STAB and a better CHR.

Sword Dance set

Sucker Punch
Sword Dance
psycho cut/Aerial ace
Stone edge/psycho cut

Ability: any really but justified may work better than pressure
Item: Focus Sash

Absol has low defences so focus sash will keep him in and freely use sword dance at least once without working of him fainting easily. Aerial ace hits both fighting and bug types but stone edge and psycho cut are bigger hitters. Sucker punch gets STAB and priority especially when hes a hit away from defeat.

both sets will work with its nature being Adamant or jolly. but since one set improves critical hits and the othe improves ATK you'd probably better off with jolly.

I know this is a major gimmick, but the idea is to inflict status and switch.

There's no point in moving first, besides with will-o-wisp if you're just going to get hit anyway. The scarf is a waste, and gives the opponent opportunities to set up. Here's a set for beat up/justified abuse in doubles/triples:

The idea is to endure while your team mate (such as beat-up weavile) beat-ups absol, giving it +6 attack, and activating salac berry. It will probably die the next turn, but you can get at least one kill, and if you predict correctly you can potentially get more. Perhaps teaming it up with something with follow me would help it survive.

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My White team:
Reserves:

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So basically any fast Fighting-Bug type will KO Absol.
So Scyther, Primeape, Hitmonlee and Blaziken are your best bets (4th Gen)
I am not too sure about 5th Gen because I haven't found any Tiers for that yet.

Pretty much, yeah. However, there are plenty of Bug Types and Fighting Types with plenty of Speed and/or Defense to handle Absol. As for 5th Gen Pokemon to counter Absol, Accelgor is a beast with Specials, Scolipede can be a threat with Bug STAB, Durant can do both Defense and Speed, Galvantula is an issue, Mienshao, Volcarona, Sawk...the list of faster-than-Absol Pokemon is so not in its favor.

The old "Tiers" go right out the window with the "shiny new toys" at the players' disposal. Heracross can be a colossal threat if Absol leaves its Choice Scarf and Aerial Ace at home, especially now with Moxie Ability. Pinsir, likewise, has better Speed, good Defense, and access to Moxie Ability.

Speaking of Moxie, Scrafty is solid enough on defenses to rip Absol apart if Speed has been Baton Passed to it. Scrafty can also get Intimidate, another Ability to threaten Absol's high Attack. Moxie and Intimidate are also found on faster-than-Absol Pokemon (Salamence, Gyarados, Krookodile), so it has a lot of threats from Pokemon without Bug or Fighting STAB

So, with Choice Scarf, Adamant Absol posesses 372 speed. Not something to scoff at... Its movepool gives him a variety of great moves to use its 394 attack stat with...
Night Slash and Sucker Punch are similar, Sucker Punch being a much bigger risk but dealing an extra 15 damage (Stab included). I had to include Megahorn because it's great but it could be substituted for any of the options from the 3 into 2 situation going on for the remainder two move slots.

Switching into a Dark move might be hard to predict but this set is really fun to play around with! Sucker Punch allows you to actually do some damage (and don't get me wrong, it'll still hit hard!) but the main point of the set is to set up a teammate! Substituting can protect a swords dance as well as get you down to 25% for your berry to kick in! Then you can baton pass out to a major sweeper

Night Slash and Stone Edge for obvious reasons. Because of Quick Attack you could get an Adamant one but with a high critical hit ratio on your moves its not really needed... Superpower gets a mention because I'm fed up of Steel Types walling every single pokemon...

Max speed because Absol needs all the speed it can get, while HP EVs assume a 31 IV to make 4 subs possible, and the remaining 8 go to each defense. The idea of this set is to make your opponent switch because they think Absol will attack them. From there, you can set up a Substitute to choose the right move to use on the foe. Knock Off their item or paralyze/burn/badly poison them, whichever you think will be more beneficial. Protect to stall for damage with Will-o-wisp or Toxic. If your opponent tries to set up on you, Torment or Taunt work well. Taunt stops them from setting up completely, but Torment makes them unable to spam the same attack move over and over. Spite is there if you wish to make them lose PP on an already-low-PP move, mainly base 5 PP.

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Few Pokemon learn Knock Off and Will-o-wisp together (Please note that I am using the 4th Gen moveset calculator found on this site in the game mechanics section):

Drifblim is probably the bulkiest Pokemon for those 2 moves, but it normally doesn't run an attacking set, except maybe with Flare Boost, so it will probably not make the foe the switch out.

There a bit too many Pokemon that learn Knock Off and Thunder Wave, but I believe Uxie is the bulkiest of all 4th Gen and below Pokemon. And WAY too many Pokemon learn Knock Off and Toxic for me to list them.

While everyone's mentioning counters such as Lucario and Conkeldurr, we must all remember that Absol's an UU so he won't really need to worry about these because they will probably be tucked in the OU.

Now back on subject, countering Absol requires scounting to find out what moveset it's running.

For a moveset like this: Swords Dance, Sucker Punch, Psycho Cut, and Stone Edge, the best counters are steel types, Aggron propably being the best.
For a moveset like this: Swords Dance, Sucker Punch, Psycho Cut, and SuperPower, well... there isn't many who could resist this moveset in the UU... The best counter would have to be Mandibuzz, who is immune to Psycho Cut, resist Sucker Punch, and can take SuperPower pretty well with its awesome defenses.

Priority kills Absol no matter what set it's running. Hitmonchan is probably one of the best users of Mach Punch in the UU and has 1 more base powered speed stat than Absol. The main thing that keeps Absol in UU is his weakness to Mach Punch.

Team Options:

Stealth Rock support can help greatly with Absol's sweeping abilities turning 2KOes into OHKOs. As metioned before, Wobbufett can be used in double/triple battles when using a perish song set. Baton Passing Agility from another pokemon will allow Absol to sweep all that it desires. Dual screening can allow Absol to have at least one turn to use Swords Dance without worrying about being KOed, sometimes....

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Absol is a pokemon I've used for Pokemon Online a few times, but I must say, it is one of the few pokemon with access to Snatch and Baton Pass. In today's metagame, everyone is watching out for Shell Smash or Quiver Dance, and Absol going up against the right pokemon can prove to put your team in a favorable position.

Works as a lead as well. Magic Coat can now reflect Stealth Rock and Spikes, as well as Taunt and status. Mid game, Absol can play mind games against opponents, utilizing Snatch and Sucker Punch to make your opponent worry about boosting or attacking. Snatch Shell Smash, Quiver Dance, Cotton Guard, Tail Glow, and once Absol Snatches the right boosts, he can start sweeping himself or pass the boosts to another pokemon who could use them. Magic Coat can also reflect Taunt on opponents hoping to end Absol's guessing game, which also gives Absol the perfect opportunity to use Sucker Punch as it will always succeed after reflecting Taunt.

I haven't used this Absol in a while and have had varying degrees of success here, but anyone is free to use and test this set with their own improvements or alterations. Just tell me how it goes for you and maybe suggest some changes to the set. c:

i read these for movesets FOR the pokemon world championships so ou uu nu or uber i dont care

Absol is about luck and/or prediction, so it won't work well in the world championship....

Really people, support absol? Baton passer I can see, but support? It's defences are just too low. There are plenty of other options, such as Chimecho, and your wasting it's 130 attack and most powerful priority move in the game if you use it as a supporter.

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Did absol get agility yet? no? oh well maybe next gen buddy. Don't feel bad it happened to granbull too. 130 power is good but the rest of his under 75 stats are really ugly to me. I dont think Absol is gonna do anything without a quick thunderwave support. After that he wont have alot of trouble.
I think the sub absol set could work,but its still not gonna last long.

Absol
-
Substitute
NightSlash
Thunderwave/will-o-wisp/RockSlide/pyscho cut
Megahorn
You could run pressure on this set to waste moves on sub.

Also in double/triple. Feraligatr would be a good team mate. Feraligatr learns agility and absol can get psyche up(yeah I know gimmicky). But Feraligatr is fairly bulky and faster than absol. You dont even need agility because feraligatr can use dragon dance instead.
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Edit:
You know what? Absol is actually an excellent shandelure creeper. 130 base power hitting you with a super effective suckerpunch is kinda scary. If your opponent is willing to risk switching you could predict it and sub that way you get a free thunder wave unless a ground type pops ups where at least you can get 2 sucker punches in.

There's no point in moving first, besides with will-o-wisp if you're just going to get hit anyway. The scarf is a waste, and gives the opponent opportunities to set up. Here's a set for beat up/justified abuse in doubles/triples:

The idea is to endure while your team mate (such as beat-up weavile) beat-ups absol, giving it +6 attack, and activating salac berry. It will probably die the next turn, but you can get at least one kill, and if you predict correctly you can potentially get more. Perhaps teaming it up with something with follow me would help it survive.

To tell you the truth, I partly put this set up to see if my posts were being skipped or something because I was hoping to get some critiques for any set I put up. I still have no clue what anyone thinks of my original sets on the first page and I would like to know how I am doing.

@ Kindrinda: Baton Passing Mean Look is gone? Looks like Umbreon is taking real estate in the UU tier now. And I was just about to try to make a Baton Pass set . Did anything else get unBaton Passable?

Seeing the same sets over and over again is getting kind of old...I came up with a similar one earlier, and superpower isn't exactly a good Idea, since it doesn't have a way to restore attack.

Baton pass is a good idea, with both substitute and a Stat boosting berry.

@ Kindrinda: Baton Passing Mean Look is gone? Looks like Umbreon is taking real estate in the UU tier now. And I was just about to try to make a Baton Pass set . Did anything else get unBaton Passable?

I think mean look is about it.

Also, Umbreon is off subject here, unless you say Absol is outclassed by Umbreon.

meant bug. I definitely wouldn't give it sp. 3x% CHR is much more useful from nighslash imo. Sword Dance maybe, but I like having a cheeky hit from aerial ace here and there. Great at getting that early hit in against Machamp and with its high attack and high CHR it may even get a OHKO.

Legendaries & POTW are for people with no imagination. Come up with your own combinations once in a while. Try experimenting, might find something good and make your own POTW.