A tl;dr summary snipped from her copious writings might be:'The current "newbie" policy is poorly conceived at best, and a potential disaster for the currency at worst. Even the use of the disparaging term "newbie" is hardly better than calling them "marks"...

Simply put, if you want people to join your club- you don't create new obstacles to put in their path.'

But really - don't just tl;dr it - read it and weep - especially if you're a moderator or admin.

That topic deserves to be posted on reddit for their amusement - but really... can't we just fix it? Please!?

And before anyone accuses me of trolling. (how nauseating is it that any criticisms are so ill-received around here that we have to pre-empt like this??)

This is a troll post, however you seem intelligent enough to accept that it is (even if you made it not knowing it was one).

You posted a personal situation in "Bitcoin Discussion" on a topic that has more relevance in any number of other sub sections to the forum.

The post is not a troll because of content, it is because of knowingly put in the wrong area (or) because of the content. Either way, I'm a math magician, you are trolling, but not a troll.

What the hell are you doing? meta-trolling? I can only assume the 'this' in your post was self-referential.My intention was to bring an issue that appears buried - out into the open a bit. For discussion - and preferably for action - in a way that benefits the community.

I find it sad to see many people here often call ideas/criticism that they don't like a troll. If this is the future of Bitcoin, it's a gloomy one.

Agreed.

But a troll is a troll. This thread is just in the wrong forums and brings back up the great idea of beating this poor dead horse (well, dying "My intention was to bring an issue that appears buried - out into the open a bit").

As if the post on reddit. Or the thread discussing the post on reddit (on the same page this thread is appearing on), discussing the same things, when it all should be taken to PM to a mod, this isn't a place where the public makes the rules, that is why there are plenty of other Bitcoin forums

But a troll is a troll. This thread is just in the wrong forums and brings back up the great idea of beating this poor dead horse (well, dying "My intention was to bring an issue that appears buried - out into the open a bit").

As if the post on reddit. Or the thread discussing the post on reddit (on the same page this thread is appearing on), discussing the same things, when it all should be taken to PM to a mod, this isn't a place where the public makes the rules, that is why there are plenty of other Bitcoin forums

Fail. The porn-site-aspiring guy who got PWNED by someone with real experience in the adult industry is now pointing fingers and shrieking "troll! troll!" every time a positive mention is made of the user who pwned him.

A tl;dr summary snipped from her copious writings might be:'The current "newbie" policy is poorly conceived at best, and a potential disaster for the currency at worst. Even the use of the disparaging term "newbie" is hardly better than calling them "marks"...

Simply put, if you want people to join your club- you don't create new obstacles to put in their path.'

But really - don't just tl;dr it - read it and weep - especially if you're a moderator or admin.

That topic deserves to be posted on reddit for their amusement - but really... can't we just fix it? Please!?

It's worth noting that she made that criticism when the policy was much more onerous than it is now. At the time, you needed 50+ posts to be let out of the newbie area. The time requirement may have been higher as well, I don't remember.

As for fixing it, I don't think this forum can be fixed. I believe the best course of action is to move this forum to another domain and completely dissociate it from bitcoin.org, which is the de-facto face of the Bitcoin project. This is supposedly going to happen, but it's taking a long fucking time. It would be nice to have a well-run merchant/consumer support forum, but having no official forum at all is better than Bitcoin associated with this cesspool.

problem with newbies is that the ratio of legitimate newbs to the community is probably 1 to every 5 scammers/spammers. Alot of people create new accounts just to thread crap and post nonsense because they apparently have too much time on their hands.