I'll hopefully get reviews done in the next couple days, but Lakeside is easily a 5/5. It might be a 6 if it weren't for hole #14.

Creekside is probably a 5 for me. So many things to consider: How it compares to all courses in the world, how it compares to "real golf" Texas ranch courses (San Saba, Wimberley, Moody's) and other "real golf" courses I've played (Renny as an example), how it compares to a theoretical "perfect" course, how it compares to Lakeside, enjoyment (or lack thereof) factor, etc.

Depends on how good you are and how far you throw. Our group is a bunch of 920-980 golfers with normal golf drives of probably 320-350 --- so with that:

#14 Lakeside is a questionable hole -- a whole bunch of extremely tight gaps for the first throw, and then a disconnected whole bunch of extremely tight gaps for the second shot. For a cheap shot at a 3, use the largest gap to the WAY right to throw down into the ravine. From there you have a reasonably easy big-hyzer to the basket.

#12 and #13 Creekside each have cheater hyzer routes. #12's is a little bushy, but very do-able, especially in doubles. The benefit is getting you higher up the hill to make your second shot easier. Just depends on the wind how much you need this one. Same with #13. It's a cute little anny sorta over some water. But for us the wind was blowing huge from the right, making that anny less than easy. So we were able to throw an overstable driver very flat and very low way out to the right and let it hyzer-blow back to the pin.

Again, depending on how far you throw, #9 Creek you want to be farther right than you think on your drive. The pin is far left around the corner, and if you don't get far enough right, the angle makes it harder to get there. This becomes pretty obvious after playing it one time.

Ha, I hadn't even seen the latest reviews of Lakeside #14 when I wrote about the ravine bailout above. This is from the latest review: "After many rounds, we concluded that the best spot to throw your second throw from was off in a ditch to the right side."