1000+ Head-Fier

Oh my.... This high traffic, early price complaint, open Vs closed, full of debate is reminding me of Z1R's early thread again... Please do stop the incessant useless arguing (or it will be locked, like Z1R's) and let the headphone speak of itself first. Sooner or later everyone will have their own opinion to share, only then proper discussion can start IMO

Headphoneus Supremus

Mm...which is why I am amused by the price comments. If the 2399 eur usd price is too high for you, wait for the pre-owned prices to appear. Case in point is the Focal Utopia. Very good prices now, some of them in mint condition. Same with the Z1R. Etc. Etc. Etc.

I figure around late 2018 or early 2019 would be a good time to bargain hunt the 820s.

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Oh my.... This high traffic, early price complaint, open Vs closed, full of debate is reminding me of Z1R's early thread again... Please do stop the incessant useless arguing (or it will be locked, like Z1R's) and let the headphone speak of itself first. Sooner or later everyone will have their own opinion to share, only then proper discussion can start IMO

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This is an "opening" thread. It's meant for excitement, speculation, complaints, whatever. When the time comes and the HD820 has been shown around and heard by a few people, there will be a separate thread for that.

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Why must all show praise and enthusiasm, this isn’t a fan club is it? And certainly not all of us belong to the 1% who can easily justify spending $2k - $4k on headphones. Well anyway, I hope it sounds fuller than the HD800.

1000+ Head-Fier

Why must all show praise and enthusiasm, this isn’t a fan club is it? And certainly not all of us belong to the 1% who can easily justify spending $2k - $4k on headphones. Well anyway, I hope it sounds fuller than the HD800.

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Anyone is free to criticize, IF they’ve actually heard them first. It’s stupid to throw out all this criticism of their price point BEFORE anyone has heard them. Especially when a vocal critic just dropped $3000 for a different pair of headphones and then has the audacity to criticize the price of these...

Headphoneus Supremus

At more than double the price of the HD800, I hope it’s not just 2% - 3% better or similar with a close headphone sound signature.

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At this level, you’re only getting minor “improvements” for your money. Wouldn’t be surprised if it matches or only slightly improves on the HD800 sound. The price difference comes down to new design, different use case, R&D, marketing, and maybe a different flavour. It hardly ever comes down to better sound quality. We’re already at near maximum as far as that’s concerned.

1000+ Head-Fier

At this level, you’re only getting minor “improvements” for your money. Wouldn’t be surprised if it matches or only slightly improves on the HD800 sound. The price difference comes down to new design, different use case, R&D, marketing, and maybe a different flavour. It hardly ever comes down to better sound quality. We’re already at near maximum as far as that’s concerned.

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That’s pretty solid. Diminishing returns kicks in hard after you’ve heard the quality of the 800/800S. But if it even matches the quality of the 800S with a closed design, that’s something that has never been done before. In fact, I can’t even find an open back that can compete with the 800/800S soundstage other than my HEK, which costs quite a bit more.