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Elsa???? Really???? Do u people hate on her that much that u would ignore the truth? I have lost all faith in this fan club.....stop being wannabe hipsters "oh I hate anything popular, I'll hate on elsa cuz it makes me cool and different"

Passive femininity stigma: Anna's first because she's extremely passive and reactive. She's dependent on other people's decisions to dictate her life, instead of taking matters into her own hands. She's lonely because her parents close the gates and her sister decides to keep them closed. So you'd think she'd take matters into her own hands, befriend the castle staff, take walks or rides outside the castle, reach out to other nobility and go visit them in their castles elsewhere, right? Wrong. She sits around the empty halls, interacts with inanimate objects instead of real people, and just passively waits for other people to make her life into the one she wants.

"Shows that women are as competent and capable as men" standard: She's not very smart or competent. Even though she was not raised to be a monarch like her sister, she still never studies, trains, or takes up any hobbies or crafts. And of course she needs Kristoff's, Sven's and Olaf's help every step of the journey (and even carry her through the end of it) because the narrative makes it clear she'd get nowhere without them. Loses her horse first thing, decides to travel at night when there's wolves out, needs Kristoff's sleigh and expertise, tries to climb a cliff to get to Elsa and not only doesn't even make it a few feet, but needs Olaf to point out there are stairs, needs Kristoff to get her around and Olaf to save her from freezing near the end. Ugh-dskfksnd

It's especially bad because Gerda from the original story braved the journey alone. Granted, she was able to because she got help by charming people and animals she encountered along the way (and even Jesus) with her feminine sweetness and purity. But then most of them were other girls and women! But since this movie tries to give the illusion of "Rah! Rah! Girl power!" and our heroine needs the all-male-except-her-sister cast to help her every two steps... it's more glaring to me.

And of course, the one everyone comments on: "Her motivation is to find true love." I know her sister shuts her out and she turns to romantic love as a substitute for the love she doesn't get, but still. No ambition, no pro-activity, no real identity beyond being Elsa's sister and Hans' and Kristoff's love interest.

Not saying she's anti-feminist per se, but based on the usual criteria compared to everyone else on this list: she comes up short.

@LupinPrincess Maybe people are voting on Elsa not because they're 'hate' her or because they're 'ignoring the truth' or because they want to be 'cool and different' or because they're 'wannabe hipsters' but because they sincerely think she's the least feminist among these 9.There's a difference between hating on someone and thinking someone is the least feminist among 9 people aka having an opinion.

All of these are really feminist-ic and great role models. I wanted to choose Jasmine because she can't really do anything to save herself and just complains but she is quite a feminist saying "I'm not a prize to be won!" and stuff like that. So I'll choose Anna even though she is quite brave and feministic.
But I don't think Anna is passive like some are saying. She is really more active than Elsa.

Anna is very proactive. That's why people call her stupid... She's TOO proactive and impulsive. Anna also saves her sister and punches Hans and usually feminists love when women for men. Elsa is the passive one who just runs. I'd vote for her after Merida. Also, WHY did the classics get voted outfor the same reasons people ignore in Elsa and Rapunzel, who are seen as feminist?

But again, this fixation on being proactive has absolutely nothing to do with feminism. People use the feminist polls as an excuse to list why they dislike the princesses they dislike.

^ The Classics got votes because: Sow White fits the gender roles perfectly, Aurora does't have much screen time and fits the princess gender roles, as about Cinderella I don't know what she hits the gender roles a lot.

Rapunzel was able to protect herself, wanted to give her freedom for Flynn and didn't fit as much in the gender roles. Elsa also protected herself and said you can't marry a man you just met and is an unmarried Queen in her kingdom.
That's why. But not being feminist-ic doesn't mean you are a bad role-model.

^ Seriously. I notice a lot of people rag on Cinderella for living with her abusive step family instead striking out to get a job or live somewhere else or "make her own happily ever after." Yet, Anna is dissatisfied with her castle's "closed gate" policy, but doesn't leave the castle, try to talk her parents or sister into reversing or loosening the policy, or even make the most of her situation like befriend the staff or go out for visits into town. She just sits around waiting for someone else to change her lonely world.

Dependent on men? Big time. Both emotionally ("in love with love") and physically (needs the male side characters to help her and save her every step of the journey).

Displays competence in traditionally male celebrated traits, like leadership, initiative, independence, etc? No, one of her main traits is she's a perpetual screw up... which she never really grows out of. It just serves to make her more endearing to and reason to get rescued by Kristoff, and Elsa at the end.

She's dumb and ditsy, feminist hate that. Plus she is so LOVE driven, they hate that too. Really, people are choosing Elsa POSSIBLY solely on hating her, I don't like her either, but the majority of feminist like Elsa. Same reason people are choosing Merida, mostly because it's ironic, whilst Merida is a damsel in distress she was made FOR feminist they don't hate her at all actually. It's really quite dumb for anyone to think Elsa and Merida, the mostly feministic princesses, are least feministic. I think those people just want to be hipster, however I do see some with very good reasons, but this is a matter of fact! not opinion.

I've heard many feminists hate Merida. I think they even wrote about it on Jezebel, the biggest radfem site I can think of. they call her unoriginal and probably hate that she needs rescuing too. This is funny because Merida is EXACTLY the kind of princess they've been demanding for years.

I don't see how Elsa is NOT unfeminist. (I'm not a feminist so I don't hate her for that or anything.) Like I said, she's pretty passive when she isn't just running and hiding. Not having a boyfriend has nothing to do with feminism. I haven't heard a single good argument for her being feminist beyond "she doesn't want a man". Which we don't know anyway, it's never mentioned.

Anna doesn't really depend on anyone but Kristoff, and at least she makes him help her similarly to Rapunzel, who is always hailed as a feminist icon for outright blackmailing Flynn.

^ Well saying that you hate feminist's so much, I don't know why you go for advice from them. I'm not saying it's bad if you actually have a valid reason for hating her, but not once in all of these polls did you really give a reason. Hating her is not a reason.

@Iwasneverhere You didn't even give a fricking reason. I really don't give a crap if you dislike Elsa or not, but not once did you give a fricking reason other then basically saying, "I dislike Elsa, so, I'm picking her." You are so biased iwasneverhere it is beyond me. Also the fact that you're an adult doesn't make how you act a two-year-old any better...-_-

Also I'm with LupinPrincess on this one. She hit the nail on the proverbial head.