Originally posted by DrHawkingThe12th:
After the constant PED and Seadderal jokes the last few months, I'd like to ask assuming this lawsuit has basis: Which is worse...getting stabbed and discharging an illegal firearm in city limits while intoxicated... Getting drunk and hitting a teammate over the head with a beer bottle.....or failing to get league clearance to take a medication that was prescribed to you by a doctor? Besides Lynch's DUI and Moffit's public urination, nothing is worse or as violent up here with the team.

And just for the record, I hope the allegations are completely untrue. I'm a Hawks fan but I would hate to see an elite talent like Aldon Smith live in the shadow of something as stupid as firing shots in the air at a house party while drunk.

I hate it when 49ers are alleged or even convicted of breaking any law because I remember our greatest teams being full of classy individuals and I feel that's how 49ers should act.
Allright DR Hawk, do you love the game of football and if so how do u feel about the players of your team knowingly taking an unknown substance to get an unfair advantage which inturn cheapens the game and makes your coach look like a joke every time he talks about competition.

Also, why is the DA now all of a sudden thinking about pressing charges? What happened a year ago that he didn't think this needed to be investigated.

The law from what I understand it is stupid. He should have known and got the guns changed. But he didn't so my guess is if they press charges it would be a mis and he would just be put on probation. If they went with felony that would be horse s**t and just the DA trying to make a name for themselves.

As for the civil, it is a civil lawsuit. It could be the guy trying to get money or not. Aldon threw the party, he got shot so I feel he does have some responsibility for what happened. Maybe settle out of court.

But from my understanding there is no legal issue with firing a gun on your property. It is the compliance of the weapon. True or false? If that is true then Aldon is not really in any trouble from the NFL. I would have a hard time believing Goodell would suspend him for failing to modify a weapon legally purchased in another state.

Krapt! This is just crummy, regardless of what the facts are, because if some deputy DA wants to make a big name for himself, well, he can do it. I would guess, Jed, trent, JH have all looked into this by now, talked with Aldon, and hopefully they with the DA can come to a decision that perhaps ends up being informative to the younger crowd, and makes them much more aware of the guns issue. As a hunter since age 6, and no stranger to guns, I hate when somebody has an issue, and wrecks any and everything in trying to promote that agenda. Sure guns are a bad idea in non-responsible person's hands. But that doesn't mean anyone who has a gun is a bad person. True, some bad persons do own guns. I seriously dispute Aldon is one of those guys. Hopefully , this blows over. At the least, Aldon needs to do some self re-assessment with his gun penchant.

Originally posted by SportsFan:
Amazing how this surfaces just before the first game.

Also, why is the DA now all of a sudden thinking about pressing charges? What happened a year ago that he didn't think this needed to be investigated.

The law from what I understand it is stupid. He should have known and got the guns changed. But he didn't so my guess is if they press charges it would be a mis and he would just be put on probation. If they went with felony that would be horse s**t and just the DA trying to make a name for themselves.

As for the civil, it is a civil lawsuit. It could be the guy trying to get money or not. Aldon threw the party, he got shot so I feel he does have some responsibility for what happened. Maybe settle out of court.

But from my understanding there is no legal issue with firing a gun on your property. It is the compliance of the weapon. True or false? If that is true then Aldon is not really in any trouble from the NFL. I would have a hard time believing Goodell would suspend him for failing to modify a weapon legally purchased in another state.

Correct, there is no legal issue with firing a gun in the air on his property, especially if he felt threatened and was defending himself. The issue is indeed about the compliance of the weapon. I just don't understand why he needed that assault rifle. It's plain stupid. These kids need to think before acting and just consider how their actions might affect their lives, their careers, and their teams. I appreciate that Aldon hasn't done anything stupid since that time, and that may be something that goes in his favor when the DA considers pressing charges. But getting these assault rifles and holding a party in his home for gangster thugs was just plain stupid.

Originally posted by real9erfan:
Correct, there is no legal issue with firing a gun in the air on his property, especially if he felt threatened and was defending himself. The issue is indeed about the compliance of the weapon. I just don't understand why he needed that assault rifle. It's plain stupid. These kids need to think before acting and just consider how their actions might affect their lives, their careers, and their teams. I appreciate that Aldon hasn't done anything stupid since that time, and that may be something that goes in his favor when the DA considers pressing charges. But getting these assault rifles and holding a party in his home for gangster thugs was just plain stupid.

I agree, I am Canadian so pretty much anti-gun. Don't see the need for assault rifles, etc.

So if what you say is true that the only legal issue is the compliance then this really is nothing more than a pain in the ass for Aldon. He should have known the laws when purchasing the guns so should have had them modified to comply. If the DA presses charges I can't see it being anything more than a misdemeanor. Felony would be a huge stretch.

The civil case will just be something he has to deal with.

But I don't see this coming down as something he could be suspended for. Suspending him cause he owned a gun that had a removable clip when it shouldn't would be ridiculous.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Krapt! This is just crummy, regardless of what the facts are, because if some deputy DA wants to make a big name for himself, well, he can do it. I would guess, Jed, trent, JH have all looked into this by now, talked with Aldon, and hopefully they with the DA can come to a decision that perhaps ends up being informative to the younger crowd, and makes them much more aware of the guns issue. As a hunter since age 6, and no stranger to guns, I hate when somebody has an issue, and wrecks any and everything in trying to promote that agenda. Sure guns are a bad idea in non-responsible person's hands. But that doesn't mean anyone who has a gun is a bad person. True, some bad persons do own guns. I seriously dispute Aldon is one of those guys. Hopefully , this blows over. At the least, Aldon needs to do some self re-assessment with his gun penchant.

He has completed his own self assessment and this is exactly why we haven't heard a peep out of him since. He said as much before camp broke last offseason! This is just a dustup that will blow over in time.

Aldon Reminds me of Kenny Britt. Not a bad guy, comes off well in interviews , coaches and teamates like him ect. But Just coming in the lg sooooo young and immature and given millions of dollars with lots of free time is a dangerous recipe for guys like them.

Aldon got a little bit of Hernandez in him. This is very troubling. Why can't he just stay out of trouble and play ball?

Not even close. Hernandez killed someone and possibly more than one. Hernandez knew what he was doing was horrific. Aldon might not have known that his gun wasnt compliant with California law. Might as well compare his dui to murder while you're at it.

Aldon Reminds me of Kenny Britt. Not a bad guy, comes off well in interviews , coaches and teamates like him ect. But Just coming in the lg sooooo young and immature and given millions of dollars with lots of free time is a dangerous recipe for guys like them.

Where is Aldons father? I wonder if he is around to help guide his son.

Originally posted by natrone06:
Aldon Reminds me of Kenny Britt. Not a bad guy, comes off well in interviews , coaches and teamates like him ect. But Just coming in the lg sooooo young and immature and given millions of dollars with lots of free time is a dangerous recipe for guys like them.

Where is Aldons father? I wonder if he is around to help guide his son.

Originally posted by natrone06:
Aldon Reminds me of Kenny Britt. Not a bad guy, comes off well in interviews , coaches and teamates like him ect. But Just coming in the lg sooooo young and immature and given millions of dollars with lots of free time is a dangerous recipe for guys like them.

Where is Aldons father? I wonder if he is around to help guide his son.

thats racist

Not my intent but oftentimes we get an influx of players in this league that need guidance as to what to do and who to do it with. Sometimes this is born of being raised in a single parent home or in a rough neighborhood. Then the organization and other veteran players are forced to be part time parents and / or mentors because the young player lacked guidance growing up or even is dealing with the absence of it now. A grounded father in the lives of these young men can make a good bit of a difference in keeping these players grounded and out of trouble. No matter the players race the lack of having proper male mentors can have a negative impact on the individual. I would have to believe that with my own son through years of counseling him and being there for him he would have that trust in me and my guidance in leading him away from trouble and ensuring that he is prepared to optimize his career and leave the game physically and fiscally fit. Not saying this is Aldon but just asking because it seemed he needed an involved father last offseason before this mess happened

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