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you could say that for anyone of these candidates.
Manning is 6-3 against PIT,ATL,HOU,NE,NO,CAR... with only BAL left
with not a whole lot to work with on offense & has the best numbers
he makes his team a legit contender, Denver hasn't had that in a long time
Rodgers has the best wide out pair in the league when healthy

That's a misleading way to say what you just posted. NO and CAR aren't worth mentioning as "challenging" teams. Carolina is 2-7 and NO was terrible the first 5 or so weeks.

Denvers wins have come against PIT, OAK, SD, NO, CIN, and CAR. Their combined records are 23-31, and the only one with a winning record is PIT (6-3). They've lost to ATL, HOU, and NE. It's hard to treat the Broncos/Manning like an elite team when they've lost to the three elite teams they've played and have only beaten one good team. Sure, CIN and NO are mediocre teams, but they're expected to win those games.

Rodgers/GB has one bad loss (to IND), but have lost to a very good SF team and were somewhat screwed over against a very underrated SEA team. However the impressive thing is that they've beaten two elite teams (HOU and CHI). Since week 4, Rodgers has thrown 22TDs/3INTs and hasn't had a QBR lower than 95, and this is all with the injuries that team has had.

Eli had a chance n blew it he's playing mediocre ...such a shame thought this was his year ...but rodgers will prob get it It's gonna be tough comeback player between manning n Adrian Peterson ...has a player won comeback m mvp in same year

Eli had a chance n blew it he's playing mediocre ...such a shame thought this was his year ...but rodgers will prob get it It's gonna be tough comeback player between manning n Adrian Peterson ...has a player won comeback m mvp in same year

Nobody thought Cobb and James were good until Rodgers helped them fill the stat sheets.

Finley was the most overrated TE in the league.

Gimme a break.

Even if Jones and Cobb and FInley got hurt, whoever else played, you all would just pretend their great too. It doesn't matter.

Norm? I hear ya, but... Rogers is still playing with the team he knows, a coach he knows and a system he knows.

Hell, everyone but Broncos fans said that Manning had no one to throw to when he signed with the Broncos. I believe I heard that the Broncos had the worst WR corps of any team Manning was considering. I also heard regularly that the Broncos line was horrible in pass protection. "Tebow made the line". Didn't the Broncos "back into the playoffs" last year?

Well, 9 games into the season and Manning is #1 in rating, #2 in % (behind a guy who has thrown over 100 less passes), #2 in yds/a (.07 behind a guy who has thrown 60 less passes), #5 in yards (140 yards behind the #1 who has thrown 1 less pass), #3 in TDs and tied for #1 in sacks.

Did I mention that he is two games away from equaling the wins of last years playoff team?

Norm? I hear ya, but... Rogers is still playing with the team he knows, a coach he knows and a system he knows.

Hell, everyone but Broncos fans said that Manning had no one to throw to when he signed with the Broncos. I believe I heard that the Broncos had the worst WR corps of any team Manning was considering. I also heard regularly that the Broncos line was horrible in pass protection. "Tebow made the line". Didn't the Broncos "back into the playoffs" last year?

Well, 9 games into the season and Manning is #1 in rating, #2 in % (behind a guy who has thrown over 100 less passes), #2 in yds/a (.07 behind a guy who has thrown 60 less passes), #5 in yards (140 yards behind a guy who has thrown 1 less pass), #3 in TDs and tied for #1 in sacks.

Did I mention that he is two games away from equaling the wins of last years playoff team?

you could say that for anyone of these candidates.
Manning is 6-3 against PIT,ATL,HOU,NE,NO,CAR... with only BAL left
with not a whole lot to work with on offense & has the best numbers
he makes his team a legit contender, Denver hasn't had that in a long time
Rodgers has the best wide out pair in the league when healthy

The best? I woukd argue jones/white and nicks/cruz are just as good, with the latter being better

Originally Posted by NormSizedMidget

Nelson has been hurt.

Nobody thought Cobb and James were good until Rodgers helped them fill the stat sheets.

Finley was the most overrated TE in the league.

Gimme a break.

Even if Jones and Cobb and FInley got hurt, whoever else played, you all would just pretend their great too. It doesn't matter.

This. I was looking at some draft profiles of these guys(which yes I know they can be wrong). Jones was predicted as a 6th rounder by a couple, jennings was going to be a no 3 wr and
Cobb was compared to someone like keenan mcardell. Until this year I thinka jones and finley had popcorn parties before games. Of course im not saying rodgers made these guys, but its not like hes working with high draft picks who were expected to be this good

Nobody thought Cobb and James were good until Rodgers helped them fill the stat sheets.

Finley was the most overrated TE in the league.

Gimme a break.

Even if Jones and Cobb and FInley got hurt, whoever else played, you all would just pretend their great too. It doesn't matter.

Jones had 50 rec in the past, Cobb has shown he's a great receiver, Finley might be overrated but he's still a good TE & he's had Jennings and Nelson
Rodgers has too much depth on the team to make excuses for a healthy roster
& i disagree that we're pretending he has great help