I have to admit I never played it, but the vast majority of people seems to think that MGS4 was quite the masterpiece.

I tried MGS3 (Subsistence?) on the PS2 and I couldn't really get into it. Didn't care for the characters, and the constant overdramatic dialogue got on my nerves. So I stayed clear of MGS4, it just sounded like more of the stuff I didn't like.

I would like to try MGS1 when/if they release it on PSN. (Is that confirmed yet?) I remember trying it and enjoying the gameplay a long time ago.

I would like to try MGS1 when/if they release it on PSN. (Is that confirmed yet?) I remember trying it and enjoying the gameplay a long time ago.

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IMO it's the best in the series. 1's just got the perfect balance of pretty much everything. The only downside is its length and its beatable in a few hours. Superb game though and if someone ported it properly to the PSP/PS3 I'd get it in a heartbeat.

It was hardly a rant, it was quite short and sweet and I stand by my point of view.

Ill do a bit of a rant to show where im coming from....

(this isnt an argument, its just my opinion, and everyone is entitled to one)

Kojima once anounced that MGS2 would be his last MGS game. MGS 2 was a fantastic game, I played through it more times than I care to remember, and if he'd have kept to his word, he would left the series at the top of his game, leaving people wanting more.....

He made a big deal of his return to the series in the first trailer for MGS 3, showing that his ego had gotten in the way of the intergrity of his previous retirement anouncement.

MGS 3 was alright and tried something different, however suffered from some bizzare gameplay design decisions, and MGS 4 concentrated on sewing up all the loose ends, more than it concentrated on supplying good gameplay...... But most importantly it FINISHED THE STORY.

IF Kojima is making a 5th MGS game, as the rumours lead us to believe, he will be flogging a dead horse..... just milking it.

Sure it will be hyped up beyond belief and will make a bucketload of money, but the series needs another game. Whats the point in tying up all the plot lines.... then tacking on a 5th game?

He should begin a new franchise.... tell a new story with new characters..... he's a talented guy, he'd be able to come up with something interesting.

I just picked up MGS4 last week, and I'm amazed how over-rated the game is. Don't get me wrong, it's beautifully put together, with great art direction & music.

But isn't not a good game. IMO, it's not even a game at all - it's a movie with short snippets of uninspiring gameplay sandwiched in between. Several scenes in the game which - in any game - you would expect to 'play', in MGS4 are reduced to cutscenes you merely sit and watch.

The storyline is ridiculous, cliché ridden rot. The characters and their 'back stories' would seem silly and juvenile in a Pokemon movie.

And who for the love of God decided that every single character in the series needs to give a gritty, 'deathbed monologue' before they expire? Once, twice in the series fine. But every single character? Talk about flogging a dead horse.. that idea is unoriginal, clichéd, and was rubbish to begin with. As dead horses go, it's "Godfather" dead. Though, this being Metal Gear Solid, this horse probably still has time to give an hour-long monologue on how it was raised by a band of ninja hamsters who lead it astray and now it regrets its sins...

Two of the main characters in the game spend pretty much the entire game slowly dying, and yet live on to play a part in the next instalment of this money spinning franchise.

I will admit, I did enjoy the latter part of the game, but only when I stopped taking it seriously and started laughing at it. I thought the scene where Raiden single-handedly stops Outer Heaven was one of the silliest, cheesiest scenes in gaming history, which developers would struggle to equal. But, the later scene where Raiden fights on, with his sword clenched between his teeth is the single most utterly naff, silly, stupid scene I've ever seen. I'd love to think it was a nod to Monty Python's Black Knight, but I think the series takes itself far too seriously for that.

And what on earth was that monologue about eliminating Zero so One cannot become Ten, or a Hundred? Did something get lost in translation? Did this seem clever, or incisive in another language or culture? They seem to have fallen victim to the illusion that by speaking slowly and distinctly, and being utterly obtuse, it will seem deep and meaningful.

I skipped MGS3 (thankfully), but given the reviews MGS4 was getting I thought it might have been a great game. Yikes.

Hideo needs something new, even if it stays in the same genre. He should come up with his own story, but let someone else write it (that George Lucas comparison is spot on). The man knows game design, but he doesn't appear to know when to just.stop.already.

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