The Fair DUI Flyer: Is it for you?

Our Fair DUI flyer is not right for everyone. You have to have a good sense of who you are and think ahead about how you’re going to handle what might happen.

The flyer is intended for two main groups. The first are sober people who are at risk for a DUI arrest. The second are liberty activists.

The flyer is NOT intended for drunks.
Drunks don’t follow instructions and that makes things worse.

By sober people at risk, we mean if you’ve had a small number of drinks within the past six hours or taken any kind of medicine or drug that may still be active in your system. If you occasionally drive after one to three drinks, or after taking any kind of drugs (including prescription and over-the-counter medications, as well as illegal drugs), the flyer may be right for you.

You may not be comfortable using this flyer. A police encounter is a difficult and uncomfortable situation. Most cops will not like it. They will get mean and threaten you. It is a very intimidating experience. You have to know yourself and whether you can handle that.

The same advice applies to liberty activists. It’s easy to talk big when you’re on Facebook or hanging out with your friends. When you’re alone on a dark road with armed men shining powerful flashlights in your face, it can be a lot tougher to stay calm and handle things well. It’s also important that you use it correctly, so you have to get past your preconceived notions of what to do. If you show a cop a card that says “I Remain Silent” and then you ask if you’re being detained, you look like an idiot.

Another key detail – the flyer is not designed to get people out of speeding tickets. There are many people who believe they can talk their way out of a minor ticket. The flyer will not help for that. It’s for when you’re at risk for something far more serious than a simple traffic ticket.

If you want the flyer, please go to our Fair DUI Flyer page. At this writing (March 2014) we have versions for six states and we will add more.

HEY LAZY PEOPLE… ARE YOU ALSO IMBECILES?
Read the Florida “flyer” and modify the “CODE” section to communicate your particular “STATE” requirements.
By doing something for your-self you might also learn a thing or two.
I am aware that the “CODE” and “POLICY” are not written in common (street or plain talk) English usage but are written in “LEGALESE”.
“LEGALESE” (the specialized language of the legal profession) is rarely if ever comprehended by the Officer enforcing the “LAW” / “LEGALESE”.
I would like to see Warren communicate with Marc Stevens, Eddie Craig, Randy Kelton, Paul John Hansen, Paul Andrew Mitchell, and others. What is needed is a method for the average (Wo)Man to file a claim against the Officer(s) and Agents and the Corporations they for the harm(s) they are causing/coercing upon all people.

Michigan does not have/allow DUI checkpoints.
The SCoUS decision left it up to the states government to rule on this, and the great state of Michigan has said that it is a violation of the 4th amendment to have such checkpoints. I believe its actually in our state constitution that they are not permitted.

Most judges are not going to believe they smell marijuana with the windows up, but your mileage may vary. We recommend not carrying marijuana in your car by the way.

If they pull you over for a traffic violation, then the flyer should work. They have to have a reason to force you to open your window, and it’s not likely they’ll have such a reason that will hold up in court.

hi , i just signed up and saw all the posts are a few years old, however , i looked at the states page and didnt see a North Dakota flyer , is there one and if so , how do i get one? By the way , great video and thanks for all you do, i have been looking for something like this for years.

DO NOT USE THIS IN LOS ANGELES
I REPEAT
DO NOT USE THIS IN LOS ANGELES

I tried using this at a dui check point in LA and the police officers got very upset. I was sober and had my daughter in the back seat. The officer told me to step out of the vehicle or he was going to bust my window open. They screamed at me and when I rolled down my window he told me we could do things the hard way or the easy way. I remained silent and opened the car door and he and 2 more officers proceeded to beat me up in front of my young daughter. I was thrown in jail for 2 nights and was charged for conspiracy to obstruction of justice and resisting arrest.

You only have to remain silent and show them the papers through the window if they exceed force as to breaking your car window they themselves are breaking the law fight the system don’t let them bully you into doing what they want

I have to agree with Jaydon; Unless you were breaking the law Ricardo, there was no reason for them to be saying such things to you if you provided *valid* license, registration and insurance. If you made the packet *correctly*, everything was *valid*, you weren’t *speeding* or anything along those lines, and they simply just were pulling you over for some bum-fuck retarded “reason” that isn’t really a valid reason for them to do so in the first place, then you should’ve just sat there. If they want to do it the hard way, let them bust your window. Makesure you are silent and record everything audio or video+audio as evidence. As he said, don’t let the bullies bully you. That’s how we’ve gotten to where we currently are in many countries. We let them bully us, internationally this has to come to a stop. It’s nothing hard, if they truly busted in your windows you could’ve taken the whole department of law enforcement in said county to court over it. With your documented evidence I’m sure you would’ve won.
Actually, just the fact that they beat you up would’ve been enough. I feel honestly, you are lying and just trolling in the comments on this page – OR, you may’ve actually been breaking the law, therefore giving those pigs valid reasoning to do what they wish. In either of those cases, none of this is for you. This is for people who are going about their own thing, doing nothing wrong, have valid license, insurance and registration. All papers in order, etc. You faltered in some way, shape or form. Please provide us more detail to your experience, otherwise don’t comment stating “DONT USE THIS DONT USE THIS”. If I were you, and I did everything right like you make it sound like (kinda?), then I would have a case already being started, again, *we cannot let them bully us*.

Why would you say as long as we have “all papers in order?” Really? So you’re justifying a “Papers, please” checkpoint? I get that the flyer is meant for traffic stops but at a DUI checkpoint it is a consensual encounter and only constitutional if the officers follow strict protocol. Asking for “papers, please” is unconstitutional UNLESS there is an underlying, predicate crime being investigated. Simply driving through a checkpoint is not justification to ask for identification. If you wish to comply then it was consensual. If you choose not to comply and there is nothing you’re doing wrong the officer must let you go. If you pass through the checkpoint and the officer establishes probable cause that you have been “DUI” then they can ask you to take field sobriety tests. If you refuse and they decide to arrest you for that, then they can ask for your ID. If you refuse to give your ID they can add an additional charge of concealing identity.

During a lawful stop (based on probable cause) you’re expected to produce your “papers.” If it’s a request/requirement at a checkpoint then it’s a “papers, please” checkpoint in which case I would challenge it as fully unconstitutional.

I got pulled over at noon on a non cloudy feb day an i had a cop in front of me an behind me they were on dui patrol. I was told my head light was out ! I was like what ! Anyway i had a bad head cold an so the cop told me i liiked like i was on herion. .. i explained about my head cold an i know they could hear i was nasally . I compiled i gave them my drivers license an ins an registration. They came back an was asking my friend why she said she was me !!! I explained im me an nobody said they were anyone that we were not ! My friend had a warrant but i was driving so they said they had to search my car on the side she was sitting on ( her warrant was for drugs ) any way they didnt find anything except in my purse witch they said fell to that dide of thr car. 2 loratabs. Wich i have RX for but were not in the bottle. This happened in 2004 an i had been a criminal justice major for 2 yrs an i told the officer that legislators hsd passed a law that pills no longer DOES NOT HSVE TO BR IN ORIGINAL RX BOTTLE . An i told him i knew this from attending school a i had seen it on the news he said he was a criminal justice major an a cop an they got even snottyer. They carted my friend off witch is understandable cuz she had a warrent they gave me a soberity test on a sidewalk that had a downhill slope, wich was ridiculous! How is one supposed to balance on one goot on a hill ! Anyway they ask what meds i take an i complied eith answer i take xanix at NITE to sleep,this was noon.. an that i had taken a benadril cold an siinus an for my head cold at 6 am but that was it. I was arrested for dui they were useing my taking the xanix at midnight so 12 hrs previous, they took me too police station for breathalizer didnt do one on seen impounded my car an took me to county jail !! I bailed out immediately when i got there i had made a phone call while they were searching my vehicle because i could tell they hsd something in their mind. I fought it in court for two yrs. Had to change court dates a few times (they).an judges for conflict of interest. ..i had either known the judge from school or frombeing neighbors ect. In the end the prosecutor refused to drop case ! The lowest he would go was 1000 dollar fine no jail time i wrnt in to drivers license place with in 20 days an officer did not show up . So it mainly just cost me a ton of monry in lawyers fees. So to my point. Would this work in this kind of situation? I dont drink or use drugs other than my prescriptions. . Sorry this is so long but it was alot that took place .
Thanx so much

Read up on local laws in your state, and you can make your own. As long as you go by the state/local laws, you should be fine. Once you make one, verify with a local lawyer that it’s legitimate to the fullest extent. You have to go by the book, be on point. Don’t rely on these guys to make it all for you. They may one day, but still. It’s not hard to do some of this work yourself. Most of the laws you need to know of for it are placed online, most are public documents from your local state.

PLEASE get one for Wisconsin. We have the highest DUI rates in the country and the worst laws for people who get accused. Please make one for us, the beer state. I’ve had officers try to accuse me of being drunk/high multiple times wheb I was stone cold sober. We have some of the most corrupt police departments here as well. Please make one for us!

I’m curious if there is going to be a flyer made for LA? LA, being Napoleonic law instead of common law does a few things differently. I know one thing that is often different is here your car is an extension of your home.

This allows for things like having a fully loaded, one in the chamber, hammer cocked firearm in the car legally.

I don’t drink at all so no problem for me. This is a get out of jail free card for drunk driver who can hold their while over the limit. If this flyer were to be accepted the distributor of these flyers should be hold responsible for every dui accidents and deaths by driver passed check points.

HEY LAZY PEOPLE… ARE YOU ALSO IMBECILES?
Read the Florida “flyer” and modify the “CODE” section to communicate your particular “STATE” requirements.
By doing something for your-self you might also learn a thing or two.
I am aware that the “CODE” and “POLICY” are not written in common (street or plain talk) English usage but are written in “LEGALESE”.
“LEGALESE” (the specialized language of the legal profession) is rarely if ever comprehended by the Officer enforcing the “LAW” / “LEGALESE”.
I would like to see Warren communicate with Marc Stevens, Eddie Craig, Randy Kelton, Paul John Hansen, Paul Andrew Mitchell, and others. What is needed is a method for the average (Wo)Man to file a claim against the Officer(s) and Agents and the Corporations for the harm(s) they are causing/coercing upon all people.

Depends on what you mean by “tell”. If they say: “Please step out of the car.” Then I wouldn’t get out. If they say: “Get out the car now or we’ll smash the window in!” Then hopefully you captured that on video and you get out, with the expectation that a judge will throw out any evidence that follows (the fruit of the poisonous tree). Some activists would prefer to stay in the car as it makes for a more compelling YouTube video and civil rights §1983 lawsuit.

“you do not have to take a field sobriety test, but do have to take a Breathalyzer test if requested?”

There is no law requiring you to take FSTs. Your refusal can be used as evidence against you in a trial, though it’s not very persuasive if your attorney handles it right.

The term “Breathalyzer” is misleading. The device with that brand name is not used in NY. There are two types of breath tests – the handheld one at the scene and the larger one at the police station. If you refuse the handheld one it’s a minor traffic violation. If you’re sober I generally recommend blowing in it because the result can’t be used against you at trial and if you blow zero or a low number most cops will let you go.

If you refuse the one in the station then in NY that means a one-year license revocation with no temporary license. You can beat that at a hearing, but those are big dice to roll.

I got pulled over at noon on a non cloudy feb day an i had a cop in front of me an behind me they were on dui patrol. I was told my head light was out ! I was like what ! Anyway i had a bad head cold an so the cop told me i liiked like i was on herion. .. i explained about my head cold an i know they could hear i was nasally . I compiled i gave them my drivers license an ins an registration. They came back an was asking my friend why she said she was me !!! I explained im me an nobody said they were anyone that we were not ! My friend had a warrant but i was driving so they said they had to search my car on the side she was sitting on ( her warrant was for drugs ) any way they didnt find anything except in my purse witch they said fell to that dide of thr car. 2 loratabs. Wich i have RX for but were not in the bottle. This happened in 2004 an i had been a criminal justice major for 2 yrs an i told the officer that legislators hsd passed a law that pills no longer DOES NOT HSVE TO BR IN ORIGINAL RX BOTTLE . An i told him i knew this from attending school a i had seen it on the news he said he was a criminal justice major an a cop an they got even snottyer. They carted my friend off witch is understandable cuz she had a warrent they gave me a soberity test on a sidewalk that had a downhill slope, wich was ridiculous! How is one supposed to balance on one goot on a hill ! Anyway they ask what meds i take an i complied eith answer i take xanix at NITE to sleep,this was noon.. an that i had taken a benadril cold an siinus an for my head cold at 6 am but that was it. I was arrested for dui they were useing my taking the xanix at midnight so 12 hrs previous, they took me too police station for breathalizer didnt do one on seen impounded my car an took me to county jail !! I bailed out immediately when i got there i had made a phone call while they were searching my vehicle because i could tell they hsd something in their mind. I fought it in court for two yrs. Had to change court dates a few times (they).an judges for conflict of interest. ..i had either known the judge from school or frombeing neighbors ect. In the end the prosecutor refused to drop case ! The lowest he would go was 1000 dollar fine no jail time i wrnt in to drivers license place with in 20 days an officer did not show up . So it mainly just cost me a ton of monry in lawyers fees. So to my point. Would this work in this kind of situation? I dont drink or use drugs other than my prescriptions. . Sorry this is so long but it was alot that took place .
Thanx so much

will it work in virginia if not is there any way you can point me in the direction on how to find out the laws in virgina on when and if i have to show my id , open my car door or even interact with these so called peace officers please and thank you i advance ,PEACE

Great job! May I add (the ‘I remain silent’ part notwithstanding), never admit to having even one drink or being on any medication – ever. It is an invitation to be subjected to any number of ‘sobriety tests’ that are designed for failure.

Looking forward to seeing more states go up (especially MA, NH, SC and NC) so I can distribute. Thanks for your efforts to curb abuse of police ‘authority’.

Is there any chance that you’re currently working on a flyer for North Carolina? I would absolutely love one; the police always construe my nervousness of people with firearms and the ability to murder me and possibly go free as being ‘suspicious’.

I’ve read all the pages and now almost all of the comments and haven’t found a definitive answer:

Can I use this in a situation where it’s 2am, I’m driving home and get pulled over for “swerving” or a similar infraction -or- is this more for field sobriety checks? Mind you, I have a FST unit I purchased from a retired deputy a few years ago so I NEVER drive over .04, I’m just wondering more about when this can be used?

Thanks. You guys have started a heck of a thing here. Citizens by the masses knowing their rights; who would have ever thought such a thing was possible?!

License revocation for refusal is common in most states. But it can depend on the process that led up to being asked to blow. In NY and FL, if the police do not have probable cause for the arrest then the driver should win the refusal hearing.

The point of the flyer is to deny the police the evidence they usually use as the basis for probable cause.

Super initiative. I am not a US citizen. I travel by plane from Europe to New York. I rent a car and drive to Stamford, CT where my European company has its main US office. I am a lawyer in my own country and I have worked with US commercial litigation and international arbitration.

I saw this posted on Facebook from the Revolution. First, I respect law enforcement immensely. These men and women put their lives on the line each time they report to their shifts. However, there are overzealous and problem people in all lines of work, including law enforcement. Is there such a flyer for Louisiana and Mississippi (the two states I drive in most often)? I do not drink, but have muscular dystrophy, which affects my walk and fine motor skills in my hands, and my speech when I’m tired. Thank you for this information.

What if it’s not a checkpoint? For instance, if you are being pulled over for speeding, failure to use blinker, cell phone, etc? Can you still use the flyer, not roll the window down, and remain totally silent?

Arizonans would be very appreciative if you could create a flyer for us! We have the highest DUI arrest rate in the nation. It’s the main source of income for the city of Scottsdale, and has spawned widespread corruption to keep the cash flow pipeline.

I would love to see one of these for Arizona. I’m going to end up with a notebook for them to read at any stop with all the research I have done. lol If you guys could make one for Arizona that would be amazing.

A flyer for Idaho would be awesome . The cops out here are abusive of there powers a lot of the time. Plus I’m not a fan that they changed there motto from “protect and serve” to “protect serve and lead” without any type of vote. Thanks!

Are you still working to add more states? Do you know when/if a Michigan and Missouri flyer would be available? I have several medical conditions that affect my speech. My biggest fear is being falsely arrested at a dui checkpoint while driving with my children.

I live in South Dakota and wish that was hete. When I drink I have a DD or stay home. I lost 2 friends from a drunk driver hitting them. I also was in an accident when I was 17 because of a lady who was taking Rx meds, drinking and wasn’t wearing required glasses. However, that is extremely rare that I do because I’m the DD. I went thru a checkpoint one time with others in my truck who were not able to drive. The highway patrol and sherrifs made me answer 50 questions making me feel as if I had been drunk when I drank soda all night. I am also a Criminal Justice major and anything on my record forefits my schooling effective immediately. On top they made my friends roll down their windows asking then numerous questions too. I was irritated and felt humiliated for nothing I had done. I think this is a great idea and if I’d had that then none of us would have had to feel belittled. Will be looking forward for one for my state.

This is brilliant! Tennessee likes to enact mandatory checkpoints with mandatory breathe tests. If you refuse, they take your blood and have a judge on call to issue a search warrant. Is there anything in the makes for Tennessee in terms of a fair dui flyer?

as a new idea to discourage officers from becoming threatening i beleive the following round about statement should be added to all that apply however I know to be true in Texas “it is not illegal to record an on duty officer therefore you are being recorded.” (then an except from the Miranda Rights not in total context because of additions but still within the law) anything you say, do or threaten CAN and will be used against you in a court of law including but not limited to property damage, blah that may be too much to add but you get my point im sure

I agree with above.
Can you make one for MOTORCYCLE riders to show with credentials thus not having to speak with the officer since we are face to face? Great concept except it leaves many citizens on the rd without a flyer. PLEASE HELP

In Oklahoma, a Handgun License holder (Not Concealed Carry License anymore, we have open carry now yay.. don’t even get me started on having to ask the .gov for permission to carry a weapon for self defense…) must notify a police officer that they have a handgun license any time “formal” contact is made. I’ve been stopped several times for speeding and I have always handed my driver’s license and handgun license over with my insurance. They have always looked at it and asked if I have a weapon on me or in the vehicle. I have always said yes. Sometimes they ask where it is and I inform them on my person or more specifically on my right hip.
If I were to roll through one of the DUI checkpoints and present the zip-lock baggy of information, should I put my Handgun License in with my Driver’s License? Should I attach a sticky note informing the officer where my firearm is located, or wait for them to ask, produce a dry erase board and spell it out for them? My handwriting sucks and I suppose they could say I was drunk based on my handwriting.

OS SS 11-103 “No person shall willfully fail or refuse to comply with any lawful order or direction of any police officer invested by law with authority to direct, control or regulate traffic.”

This is a very great thing you have produced for people to use. Thank you for the time and hard work on this. My only question is what is considered a “lawful order?” The statement, “I will comply with clearly stated lawful orders.” , could mean anything to someone who doesn’t know all of the laws. Are there certain words or phrases that could help us determine a lawful order? If they say get out of your vehicle, do you then put your car in park and call your lawyer?

(PART XIV. TESTS FOR SUSPECTED DRUNKEN DRIVERS
§661. Operating a vehicle under the influence of alcoholic beverages or illegal substance or controlled dangerous substances; implied consent to chemical tests; administering of test and presumptions
A.(1) Any person, regardless of age, who operates a motor vehicle upon the public highways of this state shall be deemed to have given consent, subject to the provisions of R.S. 32:662, to a chemical test or tests of his blood, breath, urine, or other bodily substance for the purpose of determining the alcoholic content of his blood, and the presence of any abused substance or controlled dangerous substance as set forth in R.S. 40:964 in his blood if arrested for any offense arising out of acts alleged to have been committed while the person was driving or in actual physical control of a motor vehicle while believed to be under the influence of alcoholic beverages or any abused substance or controlled dangerous substance as set forth in R.S. 40:964.
(2)(a) The test or tests shall be administered at the direction of a law enforcement officer having reasonable grounds to believe the person, regardless of age, to have been driving or in actual physical control of a motor vehicle upon the public highways of this state while under the influence of either alcoholic beverages or any abused substance or controlled dangerous substance as set forth in R.S. 40:964. The law enforcement agency by which such officer is employed shall designate in writing and under what conditions which of the aforesaid tests shall be administered.) Does this mean that Louisiana could use a fair flyer. I’ve already looked up the laws concerning displaying a drivers license and it states that you most only display it. Not hand it over. But if you keep your window rolled down would that mean that they don’t have probable cause. Or would you need more information to say for sure?

Every state has a requirement to provide a breath, blood or other sample. But it’s only after you’ve been lawfully arrested. If you follow this flyer and its instructions, you are less likely to be arrested and any arrest is more likely to be unlawful, getting you a better result in the criminal case that might follow.

I’ve read all the pages and now almost all of the comments and haven’t found a definitive answer:

Can I use this in a situation where it’s 2am, I’m driving home and get pulled over for “swerving” or a similar infraction -or- is this more for field sobriety checks? Mind you, I have a FST unit I purchased from a retired deputy a few years ago so I NEVER drive over .04, I’m just wondering more about when this can be used?

Thanks. You guys have started a heck of a thing here. Citizens by the masses knowing their rights; who would have ever thought such a thing was possible?!

Hi, I looked on the flyer page and did not see a flyer for Arizona. If you are in the works of making one, have one that’s not posted yet, or is almost done and you want it tested, my friends father is a police officer, so I can see if it works (according to my friends dad, I aske my friend and he said his dad isn’t one of those rude cops). I’m currently studying for my permit, and it will be my birthday in April, so this would be a nice thing to have in the car.

Washington State and Colorado should the on the top of your list with the legalization of marijuana. Please consider those two states first! Thank you, everyone appreciates what you’ve done here. But those of us in Washington state really need this ASAP cause they are gunning for us. Also please do include Concealed weaponry verbiage when you post. There’s a place in heaven for you….thanks from those who have been abused by the system.

I really appreciate you answering me so quickly, thank you! One more question, what would a situation be where they could force you to open your window? I realize if your obviously drunk, but what about for the two types of people this is meant for, what could they say to be within their rights to force your window open? When you have a north carolina one ready, I want to take it to my lawyer for all these questions, but if you do have time? Thanks babe!

Hi, I live in Los Angeles county, California. I got a couple questions what if I got tinted windows and they cant see the flyer, what should I do?.. Also, Can I use this flyer when I get stop by the cops because they say I look “suspicious or suspicious activity”? which is fucked up because I’m a young Mexican-American in a nice car in bad neighborhood.

Hi, I live in Los Angeles county, California. I got a couple questions what if I got tinted windows and they cant see the flyer, what should I do?.. Also, Can I use this flyer when I get stop by the cops because they say I look “suspicious or suspicious activity”? which is messed up because I’m a young Mexican-American in a nice car in bad neighborhood.

I’m a little confused. Could you use this flyer during a routine traffic stop? Also, just out of curiosity, what do you mean by you’re working to get it to other states. Is this something that has to OKed by state governments? Forgive my ignorance but wouldn’t using the flyer be protected by freedom of speech? Yes we have the right to say whatever we want but can’t we chose to be silent as well, as stated in the Miranda rights? Although I am a tad confused I do find this to be a terrific idea! Seeing cops doesn’t bother me but having to talk to them is intimidating for me. Especially because of my ethnicity I am just terrified to say the wrong thing and end up beaten if not worse. I applaud you/y’all!

It is important that you record any police encounter, preferably with a smart phone using a streaming app like UStream so the video is preserved even if the cops take your phone. That way if they violate your rights and lie about what happened, you will have evidence.

Does this work if getting pulled over for moving violations? (speeding, seat belt infractions, etc.

Theoretically, if we are not obligated to hand them any of our documents, they can write the ticket while standing by the car. As for checking for warrants and driving records, they will need to jot down the information and go back to their patrol car to verify.

It highlights how easy it is for police to confiscate large sums of cash if they find it in your vehicle during a traffic stop. The burden then falls to us to prove that it was lawfully obtained and not being used to purchase illicit drugs/partake in money laundering, etc.

My question is would this flyer be beneficial in an attempt and desire to protect myself from this happening?

Could you please make one for North Carolina? I’d be willing to make a donation. Here by the Army post, Fort Bragg, the police take advantage to harass soldiers. It’s a problem. A lot of soldiers don’t know their rights and this kind of thing ends their Army service and careers. Thank you sir.

I know it has been asked several times but do you think that a flyer would be available for the commonwealth of Virginia any time soon? Thank you for you time and dedication to liberty and sharing this knowledge so that we may better protect our freedoms!

VA is high on the list (along with PA and NC). Right now we’re trying to survive the media circus. Once that dies down life will return to abnormal and we’ll get to it. I will add you to the e-mail list so you’ll get an update when it’s posted.

I see you’ve got them posted for Florida and Georgia.. Well I live In Alabama and travel all over the south east and was wondering… Will you be posting one for Alabama? And also, how can I sign up for your email list?

If I’m not at a checkpoint, but I get pulled over for speeding or tail light out or any other excuse a cop can pull me over for after he sees I’m leaving a bar or restaurant, is it still appropriate to use the sign? Would their be any instance where I was pulled over and in danger of a potential dui that I would not be able to use the sign? Say if the cop says I swerved over the line, is that probable cause enough for me to open my doors and exit the vehicle?

If one uses this card and then feels forced to speak, wouldn’t it make sense simply to say “I’m remaining silent” and then ask if you’re free to go? It’s always going to be awkward, but at least doing that is consistent with your use of the card. Of course you have to at least crack your window to do that.

What about having a second card that just says “Am I free to go?” and using that if needed? Again, awkward, but if you really don’t want to open your window…..

Here’s an idea: QUIT ADMITTING to “driving”. As the New Jersey attorney, whose website is linked above, says ” . . . driving is a privilege in the state of New Jersey”. Duh! “Driving” is a privilege in EVERY state (and territory). That’s because it is a COMMERCIAL activity and that’s the main thing that states are allowed by the U.S. Constitution to regulate – commerce. Traveling, on the other hand, is a natural (and God-given)RIGHT. It CANNOT be regulated, insofar as it does not interfere with the rights of other men (and women).

You may be in possession of a driver’s license, but are you actually DRIVING (performing a commercial activity) when just using your car/automobile to go down the road to a store, or to golf, or do any number of things that are innocent by their very nature? IF your were truly “driving”, as commercial truckers do, you would typically be carrying documents like a bill of lading for the “merchandise” you are delivering to the owner. Well guess what? When you have purchased food, clothing, etc at the local market, it is no longer “merchandise” (something the store includes in its COMMERCIAL inventory) and it is now your PRIVATE PROPERTY/POSSESSION. You are not transporting property in commerce, but merely taking your own property home. Same with people traveling in your car with you. Unless they are PAYING you to take them somewhere, then they are your GUESTS and NOT “passengers”. If you don’t have any documents indicating that the stuff or people you’re traveling with are commercial goods or passengers, then you are NOT “in commerce”, and you are NOT “driving”.

So when you’re busted for infractions/violations “while driving”, ask the complaining cop/deputy/whatever where is his evidence that you are/were “driving”. Where’s the bill of lading that shows your were acting in the capacity of a common carrier? Where’s the passenger manifest or taxi driver’s license? Just what, exactly, do they have for evidence that your were doing anything that was a commercial activity? The mere possession of a driver’s license is NOT proof that you were, at the moment s/he stopped you, doing anything of a commercial nature, even though you were in possession of a document that you could take advantage if IN CASE you wanted to do such a thing.

It’s all a matter of what you were doing AT THE TIME. If you weren’t “driving”, then the commercial laws (i.e. statutes, regulations, etc.) don’t apply to your particular activity.

Only because we generally use attorneys and an attorney (one who “attorns” or transfers something – debt in this case) is an officer of the court and can’t “represent” someone who is trying to get the court to quit applying commercial statutory law to one who is a man and not a “person”. Most people, including, but not limited to attorneys, no longer comprehend the difference between common law (applies to men and women) and statutory law (applies to “persons” – which are legal fictions). What I’m saying is that IF one is not within the state of the forum (in contract), or performing any activity that can be construed to be within the terms and conditions of a contract, then how can the remedies (penalties/punishments/fines) called for in the contract be applied to him?

THIS is the nexus they have which grants them jurisdiction to begin with. We acquiesce to the rebuttable presumption that we are acting within the scope of a contract that doesn’t apply to us. We don’t rebut that presumption, and properly challenge the jurisdiction by demanding the claimant (not complainant) come forth and prove the “harm” being claimed. We don’t even use the right words, or demand that the man/woman who is making a claim against us show up, much less that he/she has been harmed. Instead we allow a non-injured party (an attorney/prosecutor) “represent” the fictional injured party (the state), who presents “evidence” that s/he has no first-hand knowledge of. We don’t even know how to answer the commercial complaint with our own common law claim to move the court into its common law side. So of course we “lose”.

We weren’t ever told the dual nature of “law” to begin with (most especially not in the government schools) – and it’s my understanding that common law is now just glossed over in law school as long past history that doesn’t apply to anything now. That’s only because we have ignorantly let it lapse until now most folks don’t know what it is, much less how to use it.

But if you read U.S. Supreme Court decisions with that in mind, you can see where every once in a great while they hear a case and DO apply the common law. It’s rare, and you have to know what to look for, but it does still happen. So it’s not entirely dead – yet. Crandall v Nevada was the one I first read which applied to the right to travel (not being taxable). That principal applies to ALL rights, by extension. That’s why government schools started teaching us the word DRIVING as if it were the same as TRAVELING, so governments could offer “driver’s licenses” and we wouldn’t know any better. And since we voluntarily apply for the contract by assuming we need to, we go down to the DMV and blindly enter into an agreement with the state to perform according to their terms and conditions when we rarely would have ever done anything that required a driver’s license.

It’s the same with the cars we use. Most states recognize the right to private property not being taxable – Florida being one of them, where folks are challenging the county “property” tax and getting their land taken off the tax rolls. So when we finally wake up and demand that the real title to our cars be returned to us instead of ignorantly signing them away to the state and accepting the CERTIFICATE of title (evidence that there is a title somewhere in the state’s possession), then the yearly license plate tax and registration will go away, too. But I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for that to happen. I had the title to one of my cars in my hand once, long before I started studying all this, and ignorantly signed it away to the state when I could’ve walked out of the dealer’s showroom and taken MY car and avoided all the expenses that go along with a state-owned “vehicle”. I also ignorantly signed over power of attorney to the state, as well, so when it came time, my ex-landlord could have the state-licensed towing company haul it off – legally. Otherwise it would have been considered theft of MY private property.

So yes, I agree with you this stuff doesn’t fly in court – but ONLY because we’ve forgotten HOW to make it fly. Thank God for YouTube and folks like Karl Lentz who are putting up video/audio interviews to remind us. And thank God for attorneys like you who are willing to buck the corporate governments (and the multinational corporations who now own or run them).

P.S. I forgot to mention the word “vehicle”. That’s a commercial term, too. QUIT calling your car (or responding to officer’s demands to exit) a “vehicle”. Tell the officer you aren’t in a vehicle, so how can you exit/leave it? He’s recording every word you say, if you are already ignorantly talking to him to begin with, so make sure everything he’s recording indicates you’re insisting that you are not doing anything in a commercial capacity, and none of the property you’re using is of a commercial nature. You might consider carefully wording your own placards with those words, as well, and take it to court to show the judge/magistrate as evidence that the officer knew full well that your property could not be mistaken for something being used in commerce. “Vehicle” was typically the word used for water transport, BTW, and that’s what these statutes/regulations are applied to – maritime and admiralty jurisdiction, which is commerce. The roads are actually now considered “inland waterways” in statutory law, and the land roads, many of which were in existence long before the states were, have been overlaid with a sortof legalized, fictional template that used to apply only to navy and merchant ships out at sea or on navigable rivers/waterways.

“the flyer is not designed to get people out of speeding tickets.” That being said, what if I am worried they might claim to smell marijuana or want to search my car etc. etc. Can I still keep my window up and simply show them my license and so them the flyer to put my ticket on the window under the wiper and sign with SignEasy if they demand I do?

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