Perhaps to get Liefer some playing time?
I don't know just thinking of what is rolling through his mind.

FarWestChicago

08-18-2001, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by ˇViva Mágglio!
Why, KW?

:KW

I've thrown in the towel. Hey how about them 2002 Sox?

Tragg

08-18-2001, 12:24 AM

Doesn't this waiver deal work such that it's effectively a trade - they either waive someone that we will claim or they give us the player we asked for after the season.

surely kenny wouldn't just waive him for nothing in return.

PaleHoseGeorge

08-18-2001, 12:33 AM

Originally posted by Jerry_Manuel
Perhaps to get Liefer some playing time?
I don't know just thinking of what is rolling through his mind.

Speaking for myself, I've seen enough of Jeff Liefer. He is at best a pinch hitter and utility man, and if he doesn't start getting some hits cold off the bench I'm not sure he's even good for that. His bat isn't good enough to make up for his terrible defense. We're talking about a corner fielder/1B-type guy.

I would keep Konerko and Perry long before I gave Jeff Liefer an everyday job.

Damn Lumbering is dreaming of pinstripes. But, we may have a shot at getting Kegger where he belongs!

Viva Magglio

08-18-2001, 12:55 AM

I heard about Canseco being on waivers from a Score caller. The caller mentioned this and wondered if the Cubs should claim Canseco. The host did not indicate that Canseco is safely with the Sox.

FarWestChicago

08-18-2001, 01:01 AM

I heard about Canseco being on waivers from a Score caller. The caller mentioned this and wondered if the Cubs should claim Canseco.

:shammy

No guy with arms bigger than mine is playing with the Cubs. This is my team. I will be the only one with guns.

:moron

That's right, Sammy. It's all about you!

Nellie_Fox

08-18-2001, 01:43 AM

Sometimes, waivers are just to see who is interested and what they are willing to part with.

Pete Ward

08-18-2001, 08:06 AM

Standard operating. There are many types of waivers. In the past some teams put there entire team on re-vocable(?) waivers to gage interest from other teams. If a claim is made you can pull the player off waivers without losing him.

KW is seeing if there is any interest in Jose Canseco for the Aug 31 trade deadline. [B] :) Only question left is: Who gets a Sept call up?

Paulwny

08-18-2001, 08:56 AM

You're right Pete--This from newsday.com:

According to Mets GM Steve Phillips, players remain on waivers for 48 hours, then if they are claimed by another team, they remain on for another 48 hours while the team claiming them tries to work out a trade. (Weekends count.) The team that placed a player or waivers can pull him back as soon as he is claimed, which is the most common practice during the August waiver period that follows the July 31 trade deadline. In fact, most teams put their ENTIRE 25-man roster on waivers just to gauge interest from other teams. But as soon as a star players like Mike Piazza or Derek Jeter is claimed, they are immediately pulled back. Very few trades result from waiver claims, considering the number of players placed on the waiver wire.

LuvChiSox

08-18-2001, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by PaleHoseGeorge

Speaking for myself, I've seen enough of Jeff Liefer. He is at best a pinch hitter and utility man, and if he doesn't start getting some hits cold off the bench I'm not sure he's even good for that. His bat isn't good enough to make up for his terrible defense. We're talking about a corner fielder/1B-type guy.

I would keep Konerko and Perry long before I gave Jeff Liefer an everyday job.

You could be right CZ, big concern in NY is the lack of punch on the Yankmes bench.

PaleHoseGeorge

08-18-2001, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by LuvChiSox

You read my mind re Liefer. I don't know why anyone thinks he's any good. Maybe some time in the minors will sharpen his skills.

And Canseco really had me po'd last night. He's turning into another samME---always going for the long ball instead of trying to move the baserunners. 3 strikeouts and a DP. Ugh!!

Liefer is 27 years-old. This is about as good as he'll ever be. I would get rid of Canseco but I can't believe he's taking at-bats away from anybody that deserves more of them. He's strictly a DH and that job belongs strictly to Frank Thomas next year. Why delude a bunch of Sox players into thinking they can DH for our Sox when Canseco is merely keeping Frank's seat warm?

Pete Ward

08-18-2001, 02:32 PM

Canseco should be gone by Aug 31st.

Get Borchard and Leifer some AB's in Sept.

Frank's the DH but we can use Sept to get some guys some AB's for next year. Giving Jose AB's now may be pointless.