This is a discussion on $100 NLHE 6-max: JJ vs Drooler 3b Pot Bet Size within the online poker forums, in the Cash Game Hand Analysis section; Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 58/24/1.5
240 hands the guy is a complete tard, just wondering if I should jam or just bet 1/2 or a bit less

It seems close, I think $30/shove is good but but if we jam here he might call off with a ton of stuff he'll fold the third barrel to.

Should note that vs. a decent reg this would be a pretty shitty spot.

#3

18th April 2012, 9:05 PM

bgomez89 [3,050]

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30/shove sounds good to me too

#4

18th April 2012, 11:29 PM

Deco [2,540]

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re: Poker & $100 NLHE 6-max: JJ vs Drooler 3b Pot Bet Size

$20 > Shove
He probably still has Overcards I'm happy to give 4 to 1 odds to that and all underpairs will come along.

Straight draws are given good odds which is a pain but he may shove them over our tiny bet and our jack cancels them or their outs out.

If an ace lands I still shove because I have odds to check/call due to the draws or KQ hands he could hold yet shoving would draw in 9x and maybe a few underpairs as well as the hands that beat us.

#5

20th April 2012, 3:55 AM

c9h13no3 [8,362]

Anyone think check/jam is a credible line? Or does his range have so many lower pairs (9x, 55-88) that we should just v-bet again? Idk, just a suggestion.

Idk, I think his range has lots of overs/straight draw stuff (KJ, QJ, KQ, AJ, ect.) with a bit of 9x and smaller pairs. So check/jamming would be a good way to commit all his draws. Problem is I don't trust fish to bet it themselves.

So I'd prolly bet like $22 on the flop, then just shove the rest in on the turn. No reason to bet small on the flop when villain's a drooler.

#6

20th April 2012, 4:03 AM

bgomez89 [3,050]

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C/jam actually sounds nice, didn't think about that before

#7

20th April 2012, 4:30 AM

OMGITSOVER9K [2,971]

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Quote:

Originally Posted by c9h13no3

Problem is I don't trust fish to bet it themselves.

s'what I thought as I read it.

in game I probably end up betting smaller, but I personally prefer shoving.. you get calls off all his draws that wont pay off on the river + all his small pairs.

ship it imo.

#8

21st April 2012, 3:35 PM

forsakenone [1,386]

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re: Poker & $100 NLHE 6-max: JJ vs Drooler 3b Pot Bet Size

i would shove.

#9

26th April 2012, 7:09 PM

sixpeppers [94]

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I like a small bet to induce a shove or a call, I actually think his range is 9x Tx and small pairs a ton, with of course some QJ KJ stuff, but there aren't many combinations of those due to you have JJ. If you bet something ridiculously small like 14$ that sets up a very sexy sizing for a river shove, but shoving the turn may actually get a ton more folds from all the hands you have beat.