Post by Huxleys_halo on Sept 10, 2014 18:40:43 GMT -5

Greetings all,

As a long-time PID researcher, I'm very happy to have found this forum and expect to be posting frequently here in future, but also just wanted to let you all know of another conspiracy / truth forum focused on general news, world events, alternative explanations etc that I help run here:

Post by Huxleys_halo on Nov 6, 2014 22:57:00 GMT -5

We represent a range of views and support free speech and open discussion wherever possible, so you may well find threads on Jews / the British / giant spiders, and a wealth of other things too - but we don't have any particular "specialist subjects", as a visit should attest

Post by hotman637 on Jan 23, 2015 12:53:15 GMT -5

Yes and now they BANNED (temporarily) the "inimitable" hotman637! This guy on there (Selekous) continually insulted me and blathered endlessly about God knows what and of course I get irritated and I insult him back and they ban me for a week! THEN they claim it had nothing to do with Selekous! The problem with these people is they can DISH IT OUT BUT CAN'T TAKE IT! In that case they better get out of the internet forum business!

Post by Huxleys_halo on Jan 23, 2015 22:39:21 GMT -5

How did I know you'd be here sulking... Your suspension was not to do with your silly spat with Sel, as you were told. It was to do with your repeated derailing and spamming re: God's gender, for which you had already had two formal warnings and innumerable informal ones.

I hope you will take this time to reflect upon your behaviour and return to us refreshed and renewed! (And ideally with new religious beliefs...)

Post by Avacyn on Jan 23, 2015 22:45:37 GMT -5

Yes and now they BANNED (temporarily) the "inimitable" hotman637! This guy on there (Selekous) continually insulted me and blathered endlessly about God knows what and of course I get irritated and I insult him back and they ban me for a week! THEN they claim it had nothing to do with Selekous! The problem with these people is they can DISH IT OUT BUT CAN'T TAKE IT! In that case they better get out of the internet forum business!

Hotman, you can say all you like about Sel... facts are facts, and you've got a lot of hot air inside you. Hot air that is now all over that forum.

And nice avatar... though I am sure the dog is far your superiour in intellect...

May Rosmerta bless you with common sense, so you can life the rest of your life seeing reality clearly, and don't go to the grave as deluded about men and women as you currently are...

Post by hotman637 on Jan 24, 2015 12:34:47 GMT -5

How did I know you'd be here sulking... Your suspension was not to do with your silly spat with Sel, as you were told. It was to do with your repeated derailing and spamming re: God's gender, for which you had already had two formal warnings and innumerable informal ones.

I hope you will take this time to reflect upon your behaviour and return to us refreshed and renewed! (And ideally with new religious beliefs...)

I hope you notice the IRONY of first banning me from your site and then DISHING out your blather against me with me not being able to defend my self except on this "Nothing is Real" website! See you can DISH IT OUT BUT CAN'T TAKE IT! I talked about God's gender all the time on this site (they created my own thread but I sometimes mention it on other threads but no one complains) AND"The Doppelganger and Identity Research Society" AND on "Paul is Dead Miss Him Miss Him" AND on Facebook and NONE OF THEM BANNED ME! Someone was insulting me on "Nothing is Real" but a moderator stepped in and told EVERYONE to knock it off and no more problem! Now Selekous will undoubtedly say "hotman was banned on "Slowtwitch" so that proves he is should be banned here". But I NEVER MENTION GOD IS WOMAN on "Slowtwitch"! "Slowtwitch" is run by some sort of UNPROFESSIONAL, ARROGANT, KNOW IT ALLS that can dish it out but can't take it! Now Selekous says I insulted him first but he misread my posts. I said he SOUNDS like someone who lives in his mothers basement ! He DID sound like someone who lives in his mothers basement on ONE POST! I did say the "men are stupid" but ALL MEN ARE STUPID (including me)! So it was ment for ALL MEN!

Post by Huxleys_halo on Jan 24, 2015 12:57:34 GMT -5

You haven't been banned, as you very well know, you've been suspended for 7 days.

We have a moderation record of all warnings issued to you and the posts they related to, so we have incontrovertible proof you were banned for derailing/spamming and not arguing with anyone.

Other forums may have different rules than ours, but you were appraised of the rules for CCF when you joined and agreed to abide by them. If you repeatedly break them, then there are consequences - which you were appraised as well.

Post by hotman637 on Jan 24, 2015 12:57:54 GMT -5

See there goes Selekous he is making post on the other forum telling everyone what is wrong with me when I can't defend myself because he banned me! That is UNPROFESSIONAL! He may not care about ANYTHING else but if he going to run a website he had BETTER BE PROFESSIONAL!

Post by hotman637 on Jan 24, 2015 13:00:41 GMT -5

You haven't been banned, as you very well know, you've been suspended for 7 days.

We have a moderation record of all warnings issued to you and the posts they related to, so we have incontrovertible proof you were banned for derailing/spamming and not arguing with anyone.

Other forums may have different rules than ours, but you were appraised of the rules for CCF when you joined and agreed to abide by them. If you repeatedly break them, then there are consequences - which you were appraised as well.

OK but if you are going to dish out your blather about me on your site either unblock me or SHUT UP! It is COMPLETELY UNPROFESSIONAL what you are doing now!

Post by Huxleys_halo on Jan 24, 2015 13:00:56 GMT -5

You're not banned, you're suspended as a punishment. Part of the punishment is not being able to participate in discussions. A punishment is meant to be uncomfortable and annoying, or it wouldn't be a punishment, would it? Sel is being perfectly professional, he is abiding by our forum rules, which do not say we are barred from mentioning other members when they are suspended. You on the other hand, are a persistent and flagrant rule-breaker.

Post by hotman637 on Jan 24, 2015 13:16:56 GMT -5

You're not banned, you're suspended as a punishment. Part of the punishment is not being able to participate in discussions. A punishment is meant to be uncomfortable and annoying, or it wouldn't be a punishment, would it? Sel is being perfectly professional, he is abiding by our forum rules, which do not say we are barred from mentioning other members when they are suspended. You on the other hand, are a persistent and flagrant rule-breaker.

NO SEL is NOT BEING PROFESSIONAL! That is the thing you DON'T UNDERSTAND! Suspending me and then making all sorts of comments and complaints about me when I CANNOT RESPOND on your website is UNPROFESSIONAL! It is amateur hour! If he wants to complain do it to my "face"! Let him get on "Nothing is Real" and talk man to man! He is COVERING up for the fact he is not sure what to do or say so he just turns into a bully! LAME!

Post by hotman637 on Jan 24, 2015 15:11:55 GMT -5

hotman637 wrote: "but I sometimes mention it on other threads but no one complains".

That's not entirely true. The "sometimes mention it" part, as well as the "no one complains" part. Hotman always mentions it, and people have complained in those threads, but it seems he is hung up on promoting the concept.

We try to be pretty lenient with the posters here.

I'm not trying to pick sides here; just setting the record straight!

THANKS B! You are a PRO! You know how to run a forum! I myself have complained about posters on here (iameye got on my nerves but I never said anything to the moderators) but not because I want them banned but because they never SAID ANYTHING, lol! But as I say you guys and "Doppelganger" and "Paul is Dead Miss Him" etc. know how to run a forum. In other words don't get heavy handed! On this forum they would ask me question after question and I would provide answers and then they GOT MAD! As I said if you don't want answers DON'T ASK QUESTIONS!

Post by seleucus on Jan 24, 2015 16:36:35 GMT -5

I have joined this forum just to make one post, to set the record straight as Hotman is unduly slandering me and besmirching my name (or attempting to ; he cannot even spell my username correctly). I find the process of dealing with this irritating man tedious enough on my own forum, so have no intentions of entering any discussions with him on here. Anything he replies to me with will just be ignored, and my post is not for his consumption, but to clear the name of the forum from his vicious lies. And yes, I'm going to be quite harsh on him here, so I hope the mods here can forgive me.

Hotman was not suspended for arguing with me, this is a ludicrous, ridiculous assertion made from a childish "man" who refuses to acknowledge that his own conduct was in violation of forum rules.

In any case, it was by no means a unilateral decision. That is not how our forum operates, everything is discussed jointly between administrators and an agreeable solution is arrived at. We were all in agreement (just like Slowtwitch's admins were ) over what should be done with this troublesome poster.

To be perfectly honest, I view Hotman as nothing but a nuisance poster who contributes nothing of interest to our forum and instead aggravates and annoys other (genuine) posters with his imbecilic clown act and his signature antics. He is, to put it bluntly, a textbook troll whose function is to drag a forum down to his own level.

However, my personal feelings on Hotman's posts are irrelevant, and aren't taken into consideration when making decisions as an administrator. The reason for Hotman's suspension is that he persistently broke our rules regarding thread derailing and off-topic posting. Hotman would enter threads on any given topic and try and bend the conversation towards God's gender, or spread his divisive, sexist ideas about men and women, or ill-informed anti-Islamic nonsense that has no real place in the threads he was bogging down with his bilge. I'm sure plenty of posters on here who have encountered him can imagine exactly what type of behaviour I am talking about.

Huxleys_halo and Avacyn can again confirm that Hotman was a prolific derailer ever since he joined our forum, so much so that we, like you guys here, had to create his own thread to accommodate him. And I can prove that Hotman was indeed warned over a month before his suspension about this disruptive pattern of behaviour. Please see these screenshots :

Sounds a bit like game, set and match to me.

As Huxleys_halo can also attest, we were VERY lenient with Hotman. We could easily have warned him long before we actually did, and we took a lot longer to suspend him than we could have done.

Hotman is welcome to return after his suspension has passed and no grudges will be held against him, but it should be known now that he has exhausted our patience. His novelty has well and truly worn off, his disruptive behaviour will no longer be tolerated. He must change his behaviour and abide by our rules, or else find somewhere else : he is not turning our forum into a playground for idiots, as he wants to.

Post by hotman637 on Jan 24, 2015 17:20:26 GMT -5

There are THREE lines in Sel's post that contradict each other to some extent! #1 "I view hotman as nothing but a nuisance poster". #2 "My personal feelings on hotman's posts are irrelevant" #3 "We were VERY lenient with hotman". That is the thing about Sel is HE CANNOT SEE his internal contradictions! In other words IF they were lenient AND his personal feelings had nothing to do with the banning then I would not be banned because the ONLY reason left is "nuisance poster" and that is NOT AN OBJECTIVE TRUTH!

Post by Huxleys_halo on Jan 24, 2015 17:32:22 GMT -5

These points are not in the least contradictory Hotman, the fact you think they are points to your comprehension skills, not Sel's contrariness. Sel has personal feelings towards posters, as he is a person and as we all do, but he does not let these feelings influence moderation decisions. That is the point he was making.

Seleukos cannot ban/suspend ANYONE without my express approval and agreement. I would never agree to ban anyone just because he found them annoying or had an argument with them, nor would he do the same for me.

I agreed you be suspended because I too am tired of your trolling and derailing, and as it happens it was ME who suggested your suspension, not Sel!

Post by Avacyn on Jan 24, 2015 17:53:59 GMT -5

How did I know you'd be here sulking... Your suspension was not to do with your silly spat with Sel, as you were told. It was to do with your repeated derailing and spamming re: God's gender, for which you had already had two formal warnings and innumerable informal ones.

I hope you will take this time to reflect upon your behaviour and return to us refreshed and renewed! (And ideally with new religious beliefs...)

I hope you notice the IRONY of first banning me from your site and then DISHING out your blather against me with me not being able to defend my self except on this "Nothing is Real" website! See you can DISH IT OUT BUT CAN'T TAKE IT! I talked about God's gender all the time on this site (they created my own thread but I sometimes mention it on other threads but no one complains) AND"The Doppelganger and Identity Research Society" AND on "Paul is Dead Miss Him Miss Him" AND on Facebook and NONE OF THEM BANNED ME! Someone was insulting me on "Nothing is Real" but a moderator stepped in and told EVERYONE to knock it off and no more problem! Now Selekous will undoubtedly say "hotman was banned on "Slowtwitch" so that proves he is should be banned here". But I NEVER MENTION GOD IS WOMAN on "Slowtwitch"! "Slowtwitch" is run by some sort of UNPROFESSIONAL, ARROGANT, KNOW IT ALLS that can dish it out but can't take it! Now Selekous says I insulted him first but he misread my posts. I said he SOUNDS like someone who lives in his mothers basement ! He DID sound like someone who lives in his mothers basement on ONE POST! I did say the "men are stupid" but ALL MEN ARE STUPID (including me)! So it was ment for ALL MEN!

So, you have been warned... Please feel free to explain this away as "irony..."

You produce circular arguments, are disrespectful of Hux, who is a woman... doesn't that mean you are breaking one of the basic tenants of your religion, which is to obey women to the hilt?

And you kept telling us that you were letting them know on Slowtwitch your idea of cycling with the saddle tilted forwards. And raising it up an inch, which would mean that it would be deeply unsafe. Which I told you at length... didn't I?

It is you who cannot take the whole storm of criticism everyone has been giving you.

Post by hotman637 on Jan 24, 2015 17:56:19 GMT -5

These points are not in the least contradictory Hotman, the fact you think they are points to your comprehension skills, not Sel's contrariness. Sel has personal feelings towards posters, as he is a person and as we all do, but he does not let these feelings influence moderation decisions. That is the point he was making.

Seleukos cannot ban/suspend ANYONE without my express approval and agreement. I would never agree to ban anyone just because he found them annoying or had an argument with them, nor would he do the same for me.

I agreed you be suspended because I too am tired of your trolling and derailing, and as it happens it was ME who suggested your suspension, not Sel!

I WAS NOT "trolling and derailing"! Since YOU have not told the REAL REASON (correct me if I am wrong) why you are banning me I shall have to explain it! You are mad because I made an offer to ShantiUniverse AFTER she made an offer to EVERYONE ( she mentions my name!)! In other words I was EXACTLY ON TOPIC!!!!! That is what has got everyone all hot and bothered! That is what the REAL problem on these forums is! When posters try to SELL things that the someone does not like then they ban people! Slowtwitch banned me for the same reason because I was seen as "competing" with Dan Empfield (even though I was not selling ANY product and asked for NO money). The REAL problem is you have NO consistent POLICY (that I can see) on SELLING and making offers on your website! IF Shanti can make offers on your forum than SO CAN I !!! You need a CONSISTANT rule! Either EVERYONE can make "offers" and sell or NO ONE CAN! See the real problem is MONEY! Why didn't you just say that?

Post by Avacyn on Jan 24, 2015 17:57:59 GMT -5

See there goes Selekous he is making post on the other forum telling everyone what is wrong with me when I can't defend myself because he banned me! That is UNPROFESSIONAL! He may not care about ANYTHING else but if he going to run a website he had BETTER BE PROFESSIONAL!

At least he can stay on topic, and produce decent, thoughtful, mentally stimulating posts... Something you have yet to learn!

Post by Huxleys_halo on Jan 24, 2015 18:04:33 GMT -5

Hotman, you really have gone off the deep end. You have made your propositions on the forum literally hundreds of times about "starting a new religion and making a billion" and EVERYONE is well aware of them, including Shanti (she even said so in her post!).

But that thread was specifically about the idea she was proposing, it was not an opportunity for you to wade in pushing YOUR ideas again. It was derailing and that's why it was moved and disciplinary action followed.

You have your own thread in our forum to push your ideas, we do not allow you to try and drown out everyone else when they are proposing their own ideas. But thanks for providing yet more evidence that you don't respect this rule and that our decision to suspend you was 100% correct!

Post by hotman637 on Jan 24, 2015 18:09:17 GMT -5

Hotman, you really have gone off the deep end. You have made your propositions on the forum literally hundreds of times about "starting a new religion and making a billion" and EVERYONE is well aware of them, including Shanti (she even said so in her post!).

But that thread was specifically about the idea she was proposing, it was not an opportunity for you to wade in pushing YOUR ideas again. It was derailing and that's why it was moved and disciplinary action followed.

You have your own thread in our forum to push your ideas, we do not allow you to try and drown out everyone else when they are proposing their own ideas. But thanks for providing yet more evidence that you don't respect this rule and that our decision to suspend you was 100% correct!

You did not address the REAL PROBLEM once again! What is your POLICY on selling stuff on your forum? If you don't have one you better get one quick because this problem will just come up again.