I care. I'd like to see Manzi win his first national driving title. At age 55 he's having the best year of his career, when other drivers in that age bracket like Lachance and Campbell are really starting to show their age.

I care. I'd like to see Manzi win his first national driving title. At age 55 he's having the best year of his career, when other drivers in that age bracket like Lachance and Campbell are really starting to show their age.

Also, because he's an east coast driver right? If he wins go out and buy him a steak dinner and pat him on the back. Me, I could care less who wins the title. I only remember the times I bet some of them and they stiffed me.

Also, because he's an east coast driver right? If he wins go out and buy him a steak dinner and pat him on the back. Me, I could care less who wins the title. I only remember the times I bet some of them and they stiffed me.

No, not because he's an east coast driver. There are plenty of east coast drivers. Manzi was the principal driver of my horses for many years.

No, not because he's an east coast driver. There are plenty of east coast drivers. Manzi was the principal driver of my horses for many years.

Well guess what Paul? If that's the case I would like to see Ronnie Marsh and LaVern Hostetler get all the great horses that Manzi has been driving and I would like to see them win the title because they were my principal drivers for years and won hundreds of races for me. Ronnie has over 5000 wins lifetime and lost 7 or 8 years of driving because of the Johnston's. I would like to see Ronnie at age 53 go to the Big M. and Freehold and get the great stock to drive as Manzi does and see him win the title because he was my principal driver.

P.S. What ever happened to Manzi's brother. And The Chang racing stable?

Well guess what Paul? If that's the case I would like to see Ronnie Marsh and LaVern Hostetler get all the great horses that Manzi has been driving and I would like to see them win the title because they were my principal drivers for years and won hundreds of races for me. Ronnie has over 5000 wins lifetime and lost 7 or 8 years of driving because of the Johnston's. I would like to see Ronnie at age 53 go to the Big M. and Freehold and get the great stock to drive as Manzi does and see him win the title because he was my principal driver.

P.S. What ever happened to Manzi's brother. And The Chang racing stable?

Dan:No one's stopping Marsh from coming to NJ. Tell him to give it a try.

I assume you mean Cat's brother Steve. He's been a bloodstock agent for many years. I don't know about the Chang stable, or even who the principals are.

Dan:No one's stopping Marsh from coming to NJ. Tell him to give it a try.

I assume you mean Cat's brother Steve. He's been a bloodstock agent for many years. I don't know about the Chang stable, or even who the principals are.

Ronnie is limited on what he can do and where he can go because the Johnston's RUINED him and his name. He held an IRB license for all those years but the sumbags wouldn't let him drive at their dump tracks. If he tried to go somewhere to drive during those years they would tell him to clear up his ordeal in Chicago and then they would let him drive. How could he clear up something when they wouldn't let him drive. If it wasn't for the Carey's letting Ronnie drive at Hawthorne he would still be working for some trainer. That's the power of money. John Johnston can ride a ringer and not have his named ruined for life because his dad owns racetracks.

Ronnie is limited on what he can do and where he can go because the Johnston's RUINED him and his name. He held an IRB license for all those years but the sumbags wouldn't let him drive at their dump tracks. If he tried to go somewhere to drive during those years they would tell him to clear up his ordeal in Chicago and then they would let him drive. How could he clear up something when they wouldn't let him drive. If it wasn't for the Carey's letting Ronnie drive at Hawthorne he would still be working for some trainer. That's the power of money. John Johnston can ride a ringer and not have his named ruined for life because his dad owns racetracks.

Dan:As long as he has a license, he can't be barred at the state-owned Meadowlands. Hell, if Stalbaum is allowed to drive there, anyone can.

Dan:As long as he has a license, he can't be barred at the state-owned Meadowlands. Hell, if Stalbaum is allowed to drive there, anyone can.

Paul, Ronnie will never get any drives out there that would count. He's better off staying in Chicago where he can get alot of drives and $25 a drive. He knows he can go anywhere now and drive but back when the Johnstons wouldn't let him drive even though he had a license no place else would let him drive either because the Johnston's called every track and blackballed him.

Well guess what Paul? If that's the case I would like to see Ronnie Marsh and LaVern Hostetler get all the great horses that Manzi has been driving and I would like to see them win the title because they were my principal drivers for years and won hundreds of races for me. Ronnie has over 5000 wins lifetime and lost 7 or 8 years of driving because of the Johnston's. I would like to see Ronnie at age 53 go to the Big M. and Freehold and get the great stock to drive as Manzi does and see him win the title because he was my principal driver.

P.S. What ever happened to Manzi's brother. And The Chang racing stable?

Yours Truly

How ridiculous to compare Manzi to Marsh!And you say you know about racing?Manzi has probably been the most consistent driver in harness history.Filion drove at a number of minor tracks as well as New York.Manzi has been a key player on the harness world's greatest stage.Marsh was out smoking his crack pipe.Manzi was driving 20 times a day.Marsh can barely get drives here when the driver colony gets thinner.No comparison.

Ron Marsh? You have got to be kidding me. Burton, you are right on about this. There is no comparison. I do not like to blast people that can't respond back. Let's sum it up as this. Ron Marsh is a career minor leaguer and there is no shame in that, but to get a cup of coffee at the Big M or Freehold, he better start hitting the treadmill and weights. That is just a suggestion only and not a knock on him. If he is happy with his overall physical fitness, then good luck to him.

First of all, it's hard to compare anyone to Manzi.....he's absolutely outstanding and at his age it makes his current accomplishments even more outstanding. Marsh is not in the same league. Butback in the 80's, Marsh was very good....lets not forget that. he was just a notch below Davey when Davey was dominating....especially on the bigger tracks....so Marsh definitely had some talent. It's too bad his personal problems took a lot away from his career.....and his driving now isprobably subpar.....but he was good at one time.....Joe B

cumonwire - no way buddy.....I definitely take Cat over JC right now. Not that JC still isn't capable, but Manzi looks as good as he's ever looked in his career.....this guy amazes me. And regarding Marsh at SPK, I agree he was solid there....I wonder how many driving titles he won there vs magee in the 80's???

The owners and trainer at the BigM agree with you. But JC says he still has "it" but he's not getting the horses like he use to. If it continues like this, he'll probably retire, ala Jim Brown -before his time not after-

As for driving titles, I remember Ronnie Marsh winning with horse at Sportsman's which had no business winning, just because of the perfect moves he made at the far turn. At Sportsman's (not saying anywhere else) Ronnie would have won all the races Dave won with his horses, but I doubt Dave would have had the same success with Ronnie's horses. If you follow what I'm trying to say.