Funny how so few here realise how crappy true LOS is. Makes a lot of the existing terrain useless, and makes the game take even longer as you have to try and make sure your troops cant be seen. And what about those of us with commanders in heroic poses? So now I am penalized for converting my chaos ...

Dalamar has it right. As for 5th ed, from what I have seen it is going to be a terrible terrible switch over. From what I've read, true line of sight, and individual armor save rolls will simply make the game take far to long. -Rex Agreed, talked to my gaming buddies and most around here are not ve...

Exactly, since the chariot reached the target unit without ever touching the wood, but only ended up partially inside the wood because it had to align to its side. THat is wrong though, you align and enter the wood in the movement phase, take the hits. If the chariot is killed then there is nothing...

Crawd: So? It can do so, so it has to. In other words: keep those chariots away from woods. Aligning to the enemy is part of the charge and like other factors when charging something you have to think about. I really dont see the problem.

You run into terrain and get hit immediately, if you're destroyed, you're destroyed in movement phase.Impact hits are dealt at the beginning of close combat phase, but your chariot isn't there anymore.