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Quote: Originally posted by Phoenix Flame There's also word that Schumacher has created a new, 150-minute director's cut of Batman Forever, and that both the original cut and the new cut will be included on the DVD via seamless branching.

Last I heard, the whole 150-minute cut isn't going to be on the disc.

(Apparently, the Director's Cut is so much better than the version that was released Warner is afraid of being publicly humiliated. )

It's a pity that forever won't have the longer version. I will look at getting maybe 3/4, no guesses which one I won't get.

The best thing about Batman and Robin was the fact they stuffed it up so much, that DC have now made the best version of Batman (except no yellow circle)... It was great, I can't wait for the next version...

Quote: Originally posted by Ken Murray It's also another reason why I don't really like Joel Schumacher: he could have left it in there and made the movie better, but he didn't. Then, two years later, he made Batman & Robin, the bane of every Batman fan's existence.

Eh it's probably not his fault that he didn't leave it in. The studio probably didn't want a 2hr30min movie so they made him cut scenes to get it 2hrs.

Quote: Originally posted by john 5 Maybe the scenes will be there but just by themselves in the deleted scenes section. Just not in the movie. Hopefully. How can you have a big special edition without the deleted scenes which everyone knows are out there.

I don't think they'd do that. I've known about this for a long while, and the basic part is that in the original cut, most of the scenes that made it into the final cut were in far different places in the original cut. For example, the big opening scene where Batman takes on Two-Face actually came quite a bit later originally. In the final cut, it happened before Bruce Wayne meets Edward Nygma, a.k.a. The Riddler. In the original cut, they had Two-Face breaking out of the mental institiution Arkham Asylum (not in the final cut), then Bruce meets Edward, then the Batman vs. Two-Face scene.

Spoiler There's also the storyline about the red journal Bruce's father wrote in. Originally, Bruce reads the final entry and comes to make himself believe that it was his fault that his parents were murdered. Because of this, he finds justice in sending the criminals that prowl Gotham to some sort of demise, some of the time in death, like in Burton's films. But in the comics, "no killing" is one of Bruce's morals as Batman, as was shown in Batman Begins. In the Batman/Two-Face shwodown at the start of the movie, Two-Face refers to Batman being every bit as much a killer as him. The line was cut from the version that made it to theatres and eventually home video. This all comes around after Two-Face and Riddler invade Wayne Manor and Two-Face shoots Bruce. However, in the cut available, Bruce gets up nice and new, but in the original 2 hour, 30 minute cut, Bruce has lost all memory of his time as Batman, so Alfred must take him down to the cave to relive his fear, and he must read his father's final entry again, but this time discovers a final line that makes him realize his parents' deaths weren't his fault after all, giving him new inspiration and making him realize that becoming Batman was not for revenge, causing him to change his way and rescue Chase Meridian, the latest woman he is in love with. This makes Batman's line to the defeated Riddler make more sense: I am not Batman because I have to be, but now because I choose to be." It also makes the title seem more logical.

In other words, the scenes would confuse people not familiar with the history of the original version of Batman Forever that has not been seen by any eyes not involved with the making of the film. It's also another reason why I don't really like Joel Schumacher: he could have left it in there and made the movie better, but he didn't. Then, two years later, he made Batman & Robin, the bane of every Batman fan's existence.

Quote: Originally posted by Ken Murray Uh-oh. According to an update on Digital Bits, the long sought after DC of Batman Forever will not be on the 2-Disc SE. All Batman fans are now even further on hunting down Joel Schumacher. Does anyone realize that we've been waiting ten years for the director's cut? The scenes cut were in the comic book adaptation for crying out loud!

Man, this is frustrating!

Maybe the scenes will be there but just by themselves in the deleted scenes section. Just not in the movie. Hopefully. How can you have a big special edition without the deleted scenes which everyone knows are out there.

Quote: Originally posted by Charles Blass Looks like a good project for Chris to do his "Picture Comparasions". I would like to see the differences between the versions. I have the two Burton films on DVD and everything is horrible, Picture, Sound, Features, etc.

I agree whole-heartedly with you Charles. These would be excellent for a picture comparison article. Nice first post, btw.

Uh-oh. According to an update on Digital Bits, the long sought after DC of Batman Forever will not be on the 2-Disc SE. All Batman fans are now even further on hunting down Joel Schumacher. Does anyone realize that we've been waiting ten years for the director's cut? The scenes cut were in the comic book adaptation for crying out loud!

Looks like a good project for Chris to do his "Picture Comparasions". I would like to see the differences between the versions. I have the two Burton films on DVD and everything is horrible, Picture, Sound, Features, etc.

Word on the Street -Batman on Film website is reporting that Batman, Batman Returns, Batman Forever and Batman & Robin will be released on 10/18 as new 2-disc sets. That's the same day as our own sources indicate the recent Batman Begins will be released (and our sources have confirmed the 10/18 date for the other Batman films as well). All four titles will reportedly also be available on that day in a box set called Batman: The Motion Picture Anthology 1989-1997. Each 2-disc set will feature a new anamorphic widescreen transfer of the film, along with new director commentaries by Joel Schumacher and Tim Burton, cast and crew interviews, several new documentaries and behind-the-scenes featurettes, music videos from Prince, Seal and the Smashing Pumpkins, trailers, TV spots, vintage footage, etc. There's also word that Schumacher has created a new, 150-minute director's cut of Batman Forever, and that both the original cut and the new cut will be included on the DVD via seamless branching.

Also for you guys that know the reason batman begins is not in the box set is because it has nothing to do with the other batman movies. They are starting a all new batman collection that will have nothing to do with the old collection. Hence they are going to remake the Batman with the joker which will supposedly come out in 2008. Christian Bale has also said they will not be adding a robin to any of the films again because they are going for a more dark illusion in the new batman movies.

One guy on a forum I go to told me that Batman Begins and all the original four are supposed to come out sometime in Novemeber and it will be SE'd in box sets. I won't believe it until I see the official specs here.

Bummer. I was hoping that they would be putting Batman Begins in the box set as well, but hey, you win some, you lose some. Still can't wait to see the Batman Forever director's cut. I've been waiting a long,long time to see that one, and delay after delay has forced me to settle for the screenplay instead. Still, the box set should be pretty cool. I'd like to see how they put features together for Batman & Robin without discussing how much of a flop it was, though.

Hopefully these will be out in October, and hopefully in a box set. I've been waiting a long time to see the extended cut of Batman Forever. I loved the original cut (one of a few, I know) and I really can't wait to see whether the whole "we cut 35 minutes of shot footage" thing is really true. The only Batman film that I don't have way up there on my list of favorites is Batman & Robin. Quite honestly, it's among the worst movies I've ever seen. But watching Joel Schumacher and pals trying to keep straight faces in the interviews (and no profantiy-spewing in the commentaries) should be worth buying it for.

Quote: Originally posted by Worst Nightmare I have the advantage where I don't own a single batman movie - yet.....

I just have the first. I needed it to tide me over and for $7 or whatever it was I splurged. Terrible quality though, the video is horrible and the audio could have used a richer mix too. Hopefully the new special edition fixes all of that.

Quote: Originally posted by Gabriel Powers Even though I really enjoyed Batman Begins, I still think Mask of the Phantasm is the single finest Batman film out there. I'm happy you mention this. I never saw it. Maybe I'll grab it same time when Batman Begins comes out on DVD. A lot of critics mention that it's better than the live action movies.

as I understand it, they will all be released seperately AND together in a boxed set. I still haven't made up my mind about the last two. I am interested to see the new cut of Batman Forever, and I LOVE Uma in B&R, but she is the only thing worth watching... but I can't wait for the first two! And then two weeks later.. Batman Begins!