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Wednesday, 18 March 2009

That Ali Rustam was barred from contesting wasn't the news that some people were waiting. They wanted to hear that KJ is excluded from contesting. He is the son of a gun. He is the MAN.

Ali Rustam is big news to his supporters only. It is KJ these people want to have pinned down.

By the way, before Muhyiddin's people uncork their Dom Perignon to celebrate, please take note of the following:-

From the 15 people hauled up and punished are 4 serving wakil rakyats from Paya Besar , Kuantan, Pahang. These people were campaigning for Ali Rustam. The group is led by Dato Manan Ismail who is a dyed in the wool DS Najib's supporter. If we were to cut him into 18 pieces, the blood dripping on the ground will spell N-A-J-I-B. They coordinate their operations with JJ. So go figure, which candidate DS Najib actually prefers as his Deputy President?

As to KJ, I hear things like these at my blog and elsewhere.

KJ is guilty but allowed to contest. What is your opinion on that, Sir?

To UMNO Youth members reading this and who will be voting for their new president this coming Tuesday, reject KJ or forever hold your fucking piece! The way I see it only Mukhriz Mahathir has that semblance of a new echelon Malay leader who is free from all sorts of allegations. Have you heard Mukhriz being implicated in any scandals or bad rumours?

"KJ BECOMES UMNO YOUTH CHIEF DESPITE BEING GUILTY OF MONEY POLITICS"

And I also saw this:-

KJ is corrupt and he is contesting... He is contesting for the highest position in Pemuda UMNO. The BIG question here is... will UMNO and its Pemuda allow KJ 'the corrupt' to win this contest?

This will be a big blow to UMNO... Till the next UMNO election... you will be carrying on your shoulder KJ 'the corrupt' chief. Will you guys allow that?

Which all serve to fortify my conviction and belief that KJ will win this contest, God willing.

We have many other broadsides lamenting that no sterner action was taken against KJ.

Let me try to answer the most common accusation being bandied around. The UMNO D-Board is practicing double standard. KJ is the PM's son in law that is why he is being treated lightly.

My answer is if the board does indeed practice double standard, than the likeliest approach is to NOT call KJ at all or if called, exonerate him completely and absolutely. The fact that KJ is called before the board proves that the board does not practice double standard.

Indeed, the board can be said to operate beyond external influence when it exonerates Khir Toyo. The fact that KT got scot -free does not mean he does not engage in money politics. I am surprised he got away. The fact remains however, the board operates on facts available before them.

Further, the fact that only KJ and Ali Rustam were the big fish hauled up and punished goes to show that people are working overtime volunteering to submit the facts against them.

This argument that KJ is the son in law of the PM is overused and it is tired of being treated as the scapegoat. KJ was practically a loner immediately after Pak Lah announced his willingness to step down and hand over powers to DS Najib. The long knives were already out and if anyone cares to remember, people were asking, could KJ ever get sufficient nominations? He did and because he was able to, people quickly assumed that this must be the spill over for being the PM's son in law. Since then, the fact remains KJ has to work his butts out to secure nominations and win delegates over.

People seem to forget that once Pak Lah agreed to relinquish power all semblance of loyalty towards him became fluid commodity tradable in the UMNO market. The loyalty moves to the highest bidder and the new powers to be. That being the case, how is it possible for KJ to even get a small morsel of support from those who are migrating en masse towards Pekan?

My point is: don't insult our intelligence by using this old, tired and worn out factor of Pak Lah's residual influence. It has all but emigrated to Najibland.

We then have the jackpot of a question. Have anyone heard of Mukriz being tainted? Therefore Mukhriz must be the only one qualified to be the Ketua Pemuda.

Mukhriz is not tainted simply means his adversaries aren't working round the clock to do him in. He is not tainted simply because Anas the ATM machine is standing in for him. He is also not tainted because he does nothing.

I have been hearing this joke being replayed quite often recently. Why is the Malay brain more expensive that brains of others? Answer: because it is hardly used. It seems to apply aptly of Mukhriz.

Question: why is Mukhriz not tainted?

Answer: because he hardly does anything of significance.

If anyone were to be stranded in Mukhrizland- he would say, Mr Scotty- beam me up, no sign of life down here.

I like the ending, if anyone were to be stranded in Mukrhizland he'll yell 'Scotty Beam Me Up.'That is absolutelty true, DM started with an overwhelming majority of support but has espoused views which are very far apart from the UMNO mainstream everything from PPSMI to the negotiation with the opposition. I have honestly nothing against him personally, he seems to be a nice guy, but I don't want the next ketua pemuda to be a lembik sort of nice guy, we want guts, we glory we want kahoonas, we want THE MAN

1.In this last lap, your personal crusade on KJ seemed to be unabated by exploiting the Board's judgement. Never mind KJ had been meted out with a different punishment compared to that of Ali Rustam .The fact remains that KJ is found GUILTY . Is it morally right for him to continue to contest? The 13th GE will be an election for the young generation who, amongst things, are very critical on the integrity of the parties contesting. If UMNO wishes to suffer another debacle, vote KJ in.

3.This is yet another distasteful innuendo by you directed against MM. To me it will only make MM more resolute to win the contest. Your strategy and that of his foes simply do not work.

Here they go again, since the politcal assasins bullet did not take out KJ, now they want KJ to do the 'honorable' thing and commit political harakiri.

These guys crack me up - face it, the grand plan to win the KP race via a Teknikal Knock Out (TKO) failed or F.A.I.L.E.D (if you got grade 3 for SPM), and it is hilarious that out of spite, out of a sense of incredulity, you propose that KJ commit political suicide.Hilarious.....

Dato',If Khir Toyo is clean, why bring up his name at all during the press conference; add to that the MSM higlighted that KT had been cleared of any corruption (money politics). Why was he special? Why wasn't it mentioned that Azalina, Norza, M2Taib and the rest have also been cleared of all charges?Or were they and I had missed that part of it in the MSMs.

Mukhriz is doing thing quietly. KJ is not doing anything but not doing it in a very loud and thunderous manner. KJ gives the impression of doing lot of things but actually nothing just like tong kosong. So for those who are low in EQ would be influenced easily by this fake façade. Luckily not everybody will be influenced by your blog or any of KJ supporters blog.

Your last statement “there is no sign of life” in Mukhrizland shows your willingness to stoop so low in a sarcastic manner in your support for your idol KJ.

There was this notion that the Management Committee had intervened to moderate the kind of action to be taken against Khairy Jamaluddin. The Disciplinary Board does not refer to the Management Committee. I shall explain.

Three issues

i) Personalities to he hauled up

ii) Question of when it happened..

iii) When do you convene the hearing?

When the Disciplinary Board chose the personalities to be summoned, did they refer to the Management Committee? Certainly not. It would be easier for the party president, if he indeed meddles in the workings of the Disciplinary Board to get them not to open a file on Khairy Jamaluddin. Manage the situation at source. But there was a file, and he was called up.

Was there a report at all against Mukhriz? He never did violate any of the offences? Not even a suspicion? If they were such a report, then, the Disciplinary Board made a judgment call, that being - no need to convene a hearing on Mukhriz. May be the case was not overwhelming. May be there was not enough evidence. Then the attendant question would be why chose Khir and Khairy Jamaluddin, but not Mukhriz?

To ensure justice all three should have been scrutinised. Was Mukhriz thoroughly investigated? Was this a case of a double standard?

Then you go to the nature of offences, that fall broadly within election rules. Of the many reports that landed on the desk of the Disciplinary Board, you decide on the offences you would investigate.

When do you make the decision, then? Why was someting that allegedly happened long before the divisional elections took place only came up days before Perhimpunan Agong? How much time did the investigators need to wrap up their work? Really this fall firmly within the realm of the Disciplinary Board. They must have justifiable reasons.

The point is as these judgment calls were being conceived, when and how did Khairy Jamaluddin secure an unfair advantage over Mukhriz and Khir Toyo?

"So for those who are low in EQ would be influenced easily by this fake façade."

I think thats extremely self contradictory, because the writer himself figured out how influential this blog actually is, and sensing that engaged in a classic childish 'defence mechanism' by attacking the blog as opposed to trying to rebut any of Dato's many points.

Datuk, I don't want to be rude, but please tell us, what significant things that KJ has done, since his ascension in Malaysian politics? The guy involves in money politics and thats that. Why the heck are you trying so hard to "tegakkan benang yang basah"?

Tok Sak,You have every right to defend & justify your blue-eyed kj even after UMNO cows come home... as they say "beauty" is in the eyes of the beholder... though I wonder sometimes why you are so darn stubborn even after looking at the facts and half-facts and quarter-facts on kj vs the others... I supposed the oxbridge-aura gets into your eyes/brain? As for me, IF the delegates still elect kj to KP, I rest my case and give up ALL hopes on UMNO winning anything in GE13... and Melayu akan "hilang" di dunia!

I think there should not be a double standard in punishment for the same type of offence. KJ should be barred as well. Otherwise give him a clean slate like KT.

Talking about double standard, let's compare Isa Samad punishment with that of Ali. Both involved money but Isa lost everything and plus few yrs suspension. Ali just lost his chance to get at the Dep Pres post, that's all. Everything else are intact.

I presume that you are well read and well informed in local politics. However I would like to suggest that you read Khairy Chronicles written RPK when he was 'sober' then. Try rebutting the part involving fixing Isa Samad when KJ wanted to set his political footing in NS. I believe there are some truth in that writing.

Until then, I consider KJ as a pest in umno. I am not a member of any political party.

Dato', KJ personifies everything that is wrong with UMNO now, the very fact that he is found guilty of money politics but not punished means that UMNO condones money politics, just depend on whose side you are on.

If KJ gets elected and Mat Taib or Ali Rustam(if his appeal is successful) ever gets elected in the coming UMNO election, there is ONLY one word for UMNO and it is spelled D O O M.

I don't understand you. At 15:26 criticising KJ at a pro-KJ blog, at 15:35 was told a coward not putting up your own blog by an Anon, at 18:36 cheering KJ to go, go, go. But no need to explain lah, I have quite enough of you.

Nice try…..you masqueraded as me at 18:36….but I’m flattered. If that will make you guys sleep better at night, by all means go ahead…write nice things about KJ using my nick.

I can vouch for my self that whoever wins the KP this coming election be it KJ, MM or KT, I will support him as long as he can fulfill our aspiration as normal people in UMNO. However at this moment I support MM.

Can you vouch the same? Or will you keep on politicking until UMNO no longer exist.

I am not surprised that you guys bicker over your preferred candidate. Let's not make a bigger fuss than it should've been. KJ, KT and MM, whoever wins, must be supported 110%. I really hate it when people turn their backs on candidates they don't prefer, especially when all of them are fighting the same cause.

Buck up. Pray your candidate wins. Support the one who do eventually. Accusing everybody else of wrongdoing would just break the party further.

And at this moment, we support KJ. I do appreciate the decorum shown in your last comment (not sure who is the real Are You Gonna My Way).

As to whether or not one could support lets say KT or MM as chief, one would have to seriously look at the way he leads the party. Didn't TDM tmake a public show of antagonism against a sitting President, carrying on his campaign for so many years and doing untold harm to the party?

Pemuda Tak Sokong Khairy and Khir said... I agree with u 100 % if that Khairy guy is the new Umno Youth Leader it will a major blow for the Umno wing... I heard many of Umno Youth will resign as members of Umno if the so called and arrogant KJ is the leader... I and 30 Umno Youths from my cawangan will join in hand and resign from Umno but not and never join the Pakatan Rakyat... But never will we the Umno Youth support Khairy nor Khir its Mukhriz's time. We give 100 % support to Mukhriz and hope and berdoa that these 2 will not prevail..... Its for the own good of Umno.....

Anonymous said... With all the fancy justification and no perception/no hearsay argument to support Khairy, is this the best you can do to support Khairy?????

WHat abt your talk for UMNO reformation? How great reformation with a corrupt Youth Leader?

His defense of Khairy is to smear Mukhriz by saying no one do him in and claim Anas the ATM Machine? That another wild accusation, isn;t it? Just like on Khairy?Wenger J Khairy said... Are You Gonna Go My Way says

"So for those who are low in EQ would be influenced easily by this fake façade."

I think thats extremely self contradictory, because the writer himself figured out how influential this blog actually is, and sensing that engaged in a classic childish 'defence mechanism' by attacking the blog as opposed to trying to rebut any of Dato's many points.

Panicky?

Anonymous said... Salam Sak,

I think there should not be a double standard in punishment for the same type of offence. KJ should be barred as well. Otherwise give him a clean slate like KT.

Talking about double standard, let's compare Isa Samad punishment with that of Ali. Both involved money but Isa lost everything and plus few yrs suspension. Ali just lost his chance to get at the Dep Pres post, that's all. Everything else are intact.

I presume that you are well read and well informed in local politics. However I would like to suggest that you read Khairy Chronicles written RPK when he was 'sober' then. Try rebutting the part involving fixing Isa Samad when KJ wanted to set his political footing in NS. I believe there are some truth in that writing.

Until then, I consider KJ as a pest in umno. I am not a member of any political party.

Are You Gonna Go My Way (the original one) said... Anon at18 March 2009 19:28,

Nice try…..you masqueraded as me at 18:36….but I’m flattered. If that will make you guys sleep better at night, by all means go ahead…write nice things about KJ using my nick.

I can vouch for my self that whoever wins the KP this coming election be it KJ, MM or KT, I will support him as long as he can fulfill our aspiration as normal people in UMNO. However at this moment I support MM.

Can you vouch the same? Or will you keep on politicking until UMNO no longer exist.

FINALLY...MANTRA said... There you go Dato'...

UMNO and UMNO start to disagree... more so a great presentation to the rakyat. Bravo!__________________________________