Now is a shitty time to be alive

You guys know I enjoy my share of music by cracka-ass crackas, but even I’ve got my limits.

The other day, I just so happened to wake up at like 6:00 in the morning, because I’d passed out drinking beer at like 8 p.m. the night before. I thought for a minute that, since I was up anyway, this might be the day I finally begin to get my shit together. But then I was just like, fuck it, and started watching TV for about four hours, at which point I went back to bed.

I caught some of that morning top 20 countdown they run on VH1, which I hadn’t seen since I was in college, and it occurred to me: white music has never been quite as cracka-ish as it is in 2007. Which is ironic, since black music has never been quite as… um, what’s the word for this… let’s just say, southern as it is in 2007. If you’re like me and enjoy music that falls somewhere between the two extremes, it’s kind of a shitty time to be alive. But what else is new?

Take for example this song “Hey There Delilah” by the Plain White T’s. Wow, that’s some cracka-ish shit! Even more so than the likes of Matchbox 20 and whatever it is they used to play five or six years ago, which is positively wiggerish by comparison. Listening to it the other day, I was picking up some serious “More Than Words” by Extreme flashbacks, which is not something I necessarily needed. (It also reminds me of the Dynamite Hack version of “Boyz in the Hood,” for all my late ’90s heads.)

There’s also that song “Big Girls Don’t Cry (Personal)” by Fergie, which is a complete 180 from shit like “London Bridge” and “Fergalicious” from earlier this year. It’s almost too white to get played on a top 40 station, let alone on hip-hop stations along with the rest of her bullshit. Presumably this is a play by her label to shore up her support out here in the fly-over states. I couldn’t imagine a black artist being able to pull anything like this, even if they wanted to.

Jon Bon Jovi of all people provided some insight into this trend during a recent appearance on the Howard Stern Show, another cracka-ass cracka program I tune into from time to time. I don’t know if his new album is a legit country album or not, but it’s being sold as one. It’s actually called Lost Highway, which is the name of the alt-country tax write-off division over at Island Def Jam. But basically what he was saying is that he was left with no other choice but to play country music. That is, if he ever wants his shit played on the radio anymore.

For those of us old enough to remember the 1980s, it seems rather odd, if not fortunate, that Bon Jovi of all people would have a hard time getting their shit played on the radio. Granted part of it is that those dudes are like 50 and haven’t had a single good idea in like 20 years. But part of it is that a lot of white people these days – kids in particular – just plain don’t want to hear that shit. As Jon Bon Jovi pointed out, Top 40 radio these days is much blacker these days than it was back then. As such, artists these days are faced with two choices: blacken things up a bit, or start singing country music.

Or, if you’re Fergie, both.

I can’t imagine how this could possibly bode well for anyone who enjoys good music, but it must be especially shitty for young black artists. I mean, at least a cracka-ass cracka has the option of either wiggering it up or playing to their base, if you will. Black artists these days pretty much don’t have any choice. It’s either get your Pimp C on, or end up at Koch, where you’re probably going to end up anyway. Probably the only really successful hip-hop act who’s managed to combine consciousness with an appeal to the lowest common denominator is Kanye West, who’s rhymes only seem smart to people who don’t know any better. Meanwhile, what’s there for the rest of us?

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1st, word Bol.

Purple Hulk

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http://www.plasticsquirtguns.blogspot.com thoreauly77

bol- in a year that has seen the release of albums by the national, wilco (their decidedly un-country album), the shins (debuted at number two billboard), the excellent new aesop rock, kweli(which you strangely haven’t reviewed yet have mentioned several times how much you like it) and i’ll sleep when your dead, i think maybe your just trying to stir the pot on this one. am i missing something or did i just not get the post?

Fire

“I caught some of that morning top 20 countdown they run on VH1, which I hadn’t seen since I was in college, and it occurred to me: white music has never been quite as cracka-ish as it is in 2007. Which is ironic, since black music has never been quite as… um, what’s the word for this… let’s just say, southern as it is in 2007. If you’re like me and enjoy music that falls somewhere between the two extremes, it’s kind of a shitty time to be alive. But what else is new?”
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Co-sign. I know how you feel. I guess good music just isn’t mainstream anymore, no matter what genre. Seems like people have become content with listening to mostly talentless music that makes up mainstream charts nowadays. I wish people actually bought the thoughtful stuff and, more importantly, that people still made good music as a whole.

LOL

MAN, JUST STOP WRITIN FOR XXL, AND WRITE FOR PITCHFORK OR URB OR SOMETHING. SERIOUSLY.

FAKE ASS HIPSTER FATBODY CRACKA HAPPY ASS NIGGA

Purple Hulk

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thoreauly77 Says:

September 3rd, 2007 at 12:26 pm

bol- in a year that has seen the release of albums by the national, wilco (their decidedly un-country album), the shins (debuted at number two billboard), the excellent new aesop rock, kweli(which you strangely haven’t reviewed yet have mentioned several times how much you like it) and i’ll sleep when your dead, i think maybe your just trying to stir the pot on this one. am i missing something or did i just not get the post?

I have a feeling a lot of this has to do with downloading. Those idiots in the fly over states prolly don’t own computers or understand how to use them and so they are the only people still buying actual albums. None of us really want to admit it, but it’s downloading that’s been killing music and giving power to the retards.

LOL

Purple Hulk Says:

September 3rd, 2007 at 12:58 pm

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thoreauly77 Says:

September 3rd, 2007 at 12:26 pm

bol- in a year that has seen the release of albums by the national, wilco (their decidedly un-country album), the shins (debuted at number two billboard), the excellent new aesop rock, kweli(which you strangely haven’t reviewed yet have mentioned several times how much you like it) and i’ll sleep when your dead, i think maybe your just trying to stir the pot on this one. am i missing something or did i just not get the post?

bol u go on so much bout callin white folks cracka ass crackas but we all know u and billy fagday love white dick as much as u love eachothers.

daRyder

I hear u dawg…Music is not very creative these days. The 90s, in comparison, looks like the golden age of music these days.

Is it just me, but after downloading Kanyes latest-I think it´s total garbag, exept for the tracks “Big brother, stronger and u can´t tell me nothin´” its a str8up shitsandwich, like Bol would have said…

Eman

Bol I feel you man but music sucks all over for every race if I listen to the hip hop/pop station I get a headache so i listen to talk radio at work. My question is has VH1 ever been something you watch on sunday morning unless your getting dressed for church and your about to head out the door. I mean seriously your only hope when it comes to videos is Mtv jams and well I havent had Mtv jams in like 6 months so those fuckers might be playing these songs you mention. Im a stick to old cds and pre 2003 hip hop.

Purple Hulk

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DARK Says:

September 3rd, 2007 at 1:44 pm

bol u go on so much bout callin white folks cracka ass crackas but we all know u and billy fagday love white dick as much as u love eachothers.

HE DOES THAT TO MAKE THE DUMB PEOPLE BELIEVE HE ISNT OBSESSED WITH BEING A CRACKA HIMSELF.

thoreauly77

LOL/purple hulk-

well, i am a white skateboarder. emo, not so much, that shit makes me puke.

interesting fact: other people that listen to aesop and el-p = those who still value lyricism; those who value dope beats; those who support independent artists. you know, people that are totally un-hip-hop by your standards.

http://www.myspace.com/crockerishiphop Crocker

To the closet homosexual internet tag-team of the year, for all the hating you do, do us and urself a favor. Swallow a Prozac, sit 20 mins, then kill urself, so at least you two will die happy ;)

havoc

last time i saw vh1 was when they aired the “and you dont stop:30 years of hiphop”… as for mtv, fuck their white reality tv shows…

kritiq

agree with this post all mainstream music is wack with no acceptions and the media is to blame which are owned by a certain type of race,well they always fuck up music and now they even fucking up they own faggity music,

had to censor my post coz I did not want to offend Ryan, funny he thinks my post are mo racist than Bols what a douch

http://xxlmag.com doctor69

Gay hiphop is coming in hard! Gay hiphop is a new movement that will take over. Yes intsead of having nasty half naked ho bitches dancing in videos half naked gorgus men will shake their fine asses. Sucking dick is a hot song! Ass sex is the best we taking over!

LOL

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thoreauly77 Says:

September 3rd, 2007 at 2:19 pm

LOL/purple hulk-

well, i am a white skateboarder. emo, not so much, that shit makes me puke.

interesting fact: other people that listen to aesop and el-p = those who still value lyricism; those who value dope beats; those who support independent artists. you know, people that are totally un-hip-hop by your standards.

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THEY ARENT INDEPENDANT, ITS ALL A FALACY.

AND THE PEOPLE WHO LISTEN TO THEM ALSO ATTEND SXSW.

THE SAME CRACKA ASS CRACKAS WHO ONLY LIKED TO TOKEN WHITE PEOPLE HIPHOP BACK IN THE DAY.

THEY AINT ALL THAT ASEOP ROCK SUCKS LYRICALLY.

I’D QUOTE JAY-Z , BUT IM TOO LAZY.

I KNOW U KNOW WHAT QUOTE IM TALKIN ABOUT.

LOL

WHITE PEOPLE ALWAYS TRY TO FRONT AND MAKE SOULLESS , RHYTHMLESS VERSIONS OF BLACK MUSIC AND LABEL IT ‘PROGRESSIVE’

FUCK THAT, HIPHOP WAS NEVER A POETRY READING, TAKE THAT SHIT TO A COFFEE HOUSE FAGGOTS.

gerald n. the birdman

Perhaps you should check out Queens of the Stone Age or some harder edged “craka” music.

Oh. And I heard that Purple Hulk and Lol swallow the best paste in cyberspace.

LOL

THOSE ARTISTS ARENT INDEPENDANT.

RHYMESAYERS SIGNED TO WARNER.

DEF JUX HAVE VERY CORPORATE DISTRIBUTION ALSO.

ASEOP ROCK DID MUSIC FOR NIKE.

DONT GIMME THAT ‘INDIE’ BULLSHIT.

U DONT LISTEN TO THEM , BUT U SURE DO SUCK THEIR DICKS.

INDEPENDANT DONT AUTO = HIPHOP DUMBASS.

LOL

AND STOP DELETIN MY POSTS BOL. YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH NIGGA

LOL

LIKE I SAID B4 , BLAND ASS POETRY READING DOES NOT = HIPHOP.

CRACKA ASS CRACKAS ALWAYS TRY TO FRONT AND MAKE THEIR SOULLESS & RHYTHMLESS VERSIONS OF BLACK MUSIC AND TRY TO LABEL IT PROGRESSIVE!

TAKE THAT SHIT TO THE SUBURBS

LOL

gerald n. the birdman Says:

September 3rd, 2007 at 4:26 pm

Perhaps you should check out Queens of the Stone Age or some harder edged “craka” music.

Oh. And I heard that Purple Hulk and Lol swallow the best paste in cyberspace.

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CLEARLY A WHITE GUY.

NOTE: AGAIN, NOTICE HOW WHITE GUYS ALWAYS GO INTO SPECIFIC DETAIL ABOUT GAY SHIT. ITS ALWAYS A CLEAR SIGN. IM NOT LYIN. LOOK OUT FOR IT EVERY TIME.

http://xxlmag.com DARK

COTDAMN first off let me give major props to LOL for wrightin down some real knowledge.Seconed yeah Bol and billy prove that they can’t win an argument or debate so they resort to deleting ppls comments.thats some real pussy shit for real if u cant win a debate just admit so.White ppl but not just white ppl latinos and asains to a major dagree have runied hiphop,first off hiphop is a black thing not for everyone else come to the hood dressing like us or talking like us and yoll get ya ass whoped just a fact.and exactly LOL first honkys said hiphop wont go nowhere and that it was for ignorant qoute “niggers” but then some good white childern in the good neiborhoods started likin our shit so then there like wow i think i can produce and market bullshit it goes all the way back to rock and roll here comes the white ppl elvis is now the king of rock hell naw!why is it we as a race always have to have our shit stolin from other races.now whites’latinos,asains think its alright for them to say nigga hell no it aint come to the hood and say that shit ud get stomped in the ground.i can go on its endless.

http://xxlmag.com Kane Corleone

I have noticed cuz that a lot of cats who do speak that gay shit have been white on these blogs-ie “swallowing paste” funny as hell but str8 sweet,whats good Dark,LOL? Happy work yo ass off & dont get shit for it Holiday!!!

http://xxlmag.com Kane Corleone

ok so u aint gonna let me post cuz the lil homies is gettin in ya’ll ass(to old for the no homo shit)

yea

he needs to get over this cracka bullshit and watch himself..oh and btw, he’s one of the worst columnists of all time and this will be the last time i read his XXL shit, i suggest you all do the same

LEROY

dark and lol must be the same people. that or lovers. havent either of you figered out that no one listens to what you clowns say. you act pro-black but still use the n word? what do you homos have against non black people anyway? its deeper than just hip hop isnt it. how about you do something constructive with your time. kill your selves for example. get each others dicks out your ass. and dont reply to this with any gay shit. nothing against your type (homosexuals) but i dont swing that way.

http://dad Andrew

First off, only pussies and 16 year old girls pass out from drinking beer at 8PM..this coming from a 18 year old.

Second off..white music has always been white music..its not getting whiter, your just getting dumber.

gerald n. the birdman

LOL is clearly a southerner with too much time on his hands.

http://xxlmag.com DARK

LEROY Says:

September 3rd, 2007 at 6:58 pm
dark and lol must be the same people. that or lovers. havent either of you figered out that no one listens to what you clowns say. you act pro-black but still use the n word? what do you homos have against non black people anyway? its deeper than just hip hop isnt it. how about you do something constructive with your time. kill your selves for example. get each others dicks out your ass. and dont reply to this with any gay shit. nothing against your type (homosexuals) but i dont swing that way.
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exactly like LOL said whiteboys r very detailed bout that faggoty shit.leory shut tha fuck up all ur white ass can talk about is that gay shit if anyone acually wants to have an intellectual debate then fine but whiteboys like leory always jump on gay shit so that probably won’t happen.And leroy can’t ur illtierate ass read I said “first honkys said hiphop wont go nowhere and that it was for ignorant qoute “niggers””then said……..”now whites’latinos,asains think its alright for them to say nigga” I’m stating facts and examples go to school Leroy like I said before at least change ur screen name cause that name makes you sound like a fucking faggot.

Ghost

Where’s the love people? Where’s the respect? Not one of us can definatively say “hip hop is X” so lets just see where the art form goes. Big ups to Kool Herc, Grandmaster Flash, and Afrika Bambataa who started this shit but, like painting or sculpture, it changes over time. I mean if modern images looked like cave paintings, how would that be a sign of progress? Some people think “indie” shit isn’t hip-hop, some people think “gangsta” shit isn’t hip-hop. Please, by all means have your opinions but there is nothing constructive about attempting to destroy something that isn’t concrete – art. Peace.

LEROY

dark
1. im not white im samoan.
2. i was referring to lol when i said “you act pro-black but still use the n word”
3. the only reason i resorted to using gay jokes is because judging from your previous comments all you seem to understand is gay and race jokes. and again i have no problem with gay people but i still wanna know.
you never answer any bodys comments with anything worth reading. all it is is shots at thier race and sexuality. why is that? im being as reasonable as possible and the only comment ill get back is “bitch, fag, honkey, cracker.” if you want to argue the state of hip hop then grow the fuck up. and also read my full comment and think about it before you press that submit button.

Purple Hulk

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thoreauly77 Says:

September 3rd, 2007 at 2:19 pm

LOL/purple hulk-

well, i am a white skateboarder. emo, not so much, that shit makes me puke.

interesting fact: other people that listen to aesop and el-p = those who still value lyricism; those who value dope beats; those who support independent artists. you know, people that are totally un-hip-hop by your standards.

I APPRECIATE LYRICISM, AND I SUPPORT INDIE ARTISTS, BUT I DONT SUPPORT EMO ARTISTS CLASSIFYING THEMSELVES AS HIP HOP AND MARKETING TO A MAJORITELY WHITE FANBASE.
THATS WHY I LISTEN TO
CANIBUS
ROYCE
RAS KASS
KOOL G RAP

AND ALOT MORE REAL LYRICISTS, NOT THEM CORNY INDIE ROCK CRACKAS.

I HATE HUMANS

ITS THE BLACKMAN FAULT, MY 50 YEAR OLD ASS AINT RELEVANT ANY, MORE. 50 AND TRYING TO SELL RECORDS.
That destroys the example entirely.

Besides girls can’t shake their ass to melody. Thats what rhythm is for. And the brothas make the rhythm.

Music these days does suck ass.
Its Napster’s fault and the greedy thieving labels that robbed artists for years.

People don’t deserve good music these days anyway. They are too racist and petty.
All caught up in the artist’s lives. They are too opinionated and basically like to support gimmicky trash that sells ring tones.

I HATE HUMANS

ITS THE BLACKMAN FAULT, MY 50 YEAR OLD ASS AINT RELEVANT ANY, MORE. 50 AND TRYING TO SELL RECORDS.
That destroys the example entirely.

Music these days does suck ass.
Its Napster’s fault and the greedy thieving labels that robbed artists for years.

People don’t deserve good music these days anyway. They are too racist and petty.
All caught up in the artist’s lives. They are too opinionated and basically like to support gimmicky trash that sells ring tones.

LOL

NICE SUGGESTION LEROY, BUT NO THANKS, IM NOT GAY AND WHITE PEOPLE ALREADY HAVE THE MONOPOLY ON SUICIDE , SO I WONT BE DOING THAT.

WHAT DO WHITE PEOPLE NOT GET ABOUT THE CORROLATION BETWEEN , CULTURE AND MUSIC, AND THE CULTURE/RACE THAT CREATES THE MUSIC?

THEY NEVER UNDERSTAND THAT SHIT CAUSE WHITE PEOPLE DONT HAVE A CULTURE. ALL THEY DO IS STEAL.

LOL

IRONIC HOW ‘LEROY’ SAYS HE’S NOT RACIST , BUT HE’S ON A HIPHOP SITE USING A HISTORICALLY BLACK NAME? WHY ‘LEROY’ WHY DONT U USE A HAWAIAN NAME?
ASHAMED MAYBE?

AND IF ‘NOBODY AKA YOU’ DON’T READ OUR REPLIES, WHY DID U JUST WRITE A HALF A PAGE OF HOMO-EROTIC FANTASY?

YOU’RE SUPPRESSING UR GAY TENDANCIES. (NO WAKA LAKA)

http://xxlmag.com DARK

Leroy,
I’m talkin bout hiphop and the state it’s in race does have a part.Hiphop is for black folks if other races just like listing to it then thats fine like the third person who made a comment on this blog who goes by Fire we had an intellcual descussion in a previous blog he’s white but he says he only likes to listen to hiphop and that he himself hates wiggers now thats cool as shit.I got a problem with these whiteboys,asains and latinos that try to act black dress black and use the word nigga and try to involve themselves with something that has nothing to do with them.Gay ppl is another example gay ppl have no place in hiphop if two fags want to pack eachothers fudge whatever but don’t be bring that faggoty shit into hiphop like wayne and baby deadlee and those other fags hiphop is not for them.You really should try to think before you talk son and your a hipycrite when u say i only respond to ppl by dissing them with names as i recall u started that shit so i threw it back at u.When me and fire had a debate I never called him anything nor did he do with me cause it was an intellcual descussion.Leroy grow up and go to school kid.

LOL

HEY FAT BODY BOL..HOW MANY ‘CONCIOUS RAPPERS ARE ON KOCH?

WOW WHAT A DUMB ASS, AND U ACTUALLY WRITE ABOUT HIPHOP?

LOL,,DUMBASS CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Mike

Who listens to Kanye West because he is smart? I listen to Kanye West because he talks about real life and he is entertaining. Anyone who honestly thinks Kanye is educated rap or conscious rap should jerk off with a hand full of thumb tacks.

Mike

Are people really on here talking about white people don’t know hip hop or are the reason hip hop is dead? Did you ever think about the fact that hip hop is marketed to white people almost exclusively and that even before downloading was prominent the estimates were as high as 80% of hip hop was bought by whites. I know it makes me piss my pants laughing when groups like the Dead Prez talk shit about cracker and the like but I bet 99% of their album sales were attributed to these same crackers. I am a white guy from the suburbs, mid 20′s, married with a kid, and a high paying corporate job, and I would go toe to toe with anyone about my knowledge of hip hop history. I don’t listen for credibility or because it’s cool, it’s just what I like.

LEROY

dark and lol.
look honestly all i have a problem is is people who try to make everything race related. the reason i dont respect your comments or opinions is because you use racial slurs when trying to get your point across. if some one white dresses in fubu or whatever whos place is it to say that they cant. when you simplify shit you will learn to understand it on a better level. a young white kid may not dress in fubu to try to be black but to try to repressent who he is, a hip hop fan. i dont understand this nazi like racial profiling type of shit you speak. you seem mad at something that doesnt really effect you in any physical way. hip hop will always be known as a culture that was started by black people so where is the harm in having some kid in japan dress the same way. and lol leroy was the name i was given by my mother. im not from hawaii i was born in california and you can also quit the gay and racial shit. its getting old son.

Mike

I def. agree with the hate for “wiggers” or white people who try and act like they are down because they listen to rap. To me that is what is killing hip hop. I compare those kids to people back in the day in black face. Instead of paint they use clothing. I will slap the shit out of a white kid in the mall with a crooked hat in 2 seconds because he paints the picture that I can’t, as an educated white man, still be part of the culture. Anyone that cares enough to be on this board in this discussion deserves the respect that they obviously give by even being here. The rest are banging some fat girl in a Charlotte Hornets Starter jacket and white high top Fila’s in their mom’s basement listening to Plies and Youn Joc.

http://xxlmag.com DARK

Mike I respect what u said I don’t have a problem with a white guy like u that doesn’t try to front and doesn’t try to be somtin hes not.If ur white,asain,latinos and just like listing to hiphop thats fine.But the minute yall dress or talk like us is when the bullshit starts.I live in the hood I see no white ppl round here.Mexicans in east la dont try to act black.hiphop is black culture but its cool as shit like i said if a whiteguy just likes listing to it.its this wigger,spigger,chigger shit that irattates me.And leroy if a whiteboy came to the hood rocking fubu or trying to dress black he’d get stomped into the ground real talk.stop fronting and be yourselves.

http://xxlmag.com DARK

p.s. hiphop is dead thou lets face it rap used to be bout tha hood and the strugles not about livin in the burbs,having a million dollar house,bling,cars all that bullshit thats all thats talked about nowadays is how much money someone got.and mike not dissin u or nothin but these whitefolks that market hiphop related shit dont really even know wut hiphop is all about.lets take bet (brainwashing entertainment television) for example its owned by some jewish guy wut tha fuck he know?he doesnt he’s only profiting off another culture he dont know shit about.real talk

LEROY

dark
why dont you try talking about how these guys like yung joc and young jeezy and lil wayne and all them are also helping destroy hip hop. i understand that there is non black people destroying hip hop but at the same time there is a lot of black people destroying it aswell. not only rich and famous mcs are rhyming about the same old materialistic shit but a lot of unsigned and independent artists too. how about not making this a race issue and focusing on hip hop in general. im sure people of all races want to hear a little more substance in hip hop not just black people. im sure everybody will take you a little bit more seriously if you leave out the honkey and cracker shit aswell.

http://www.blogspot.com/zacreole zacreole

Wow. Ignorance again. 1st, everyone, if you are going to voice your opinion, please do so intelligently & properly. To not do so proves that you can’t. No “ALL-CAPS”, please use spell check (if you have to) & follow the rules of proper grammar & pronunciation.

“Purple Hulk”, “Dark ???” & “lol” (rote if there ever was an appropos (fitting) definiton of a pseudonymn); please do tell us; (your awaiting audience) what type of hip-hop do you like? What artists do you approve of. We wanna believe you but you need more people.

It seems as if y’all despise everyone’s attempt at expression & communication but your own. Who are your favorite artists? What are your true feelings? It seems as if you only communicate with seemingly impotent verbal retaliation with no actual thoughts, ideas or opinions exchanged.

Please elaborate on why you feel the way you do (collectively & individually) in regards to hip-hop & your constant state of insubordination & rebellion in regards to your apparently egregious interpretation of the “Status Quo”.

Like Mama used to say, “If you ain’t got nothin’ good (or meaningful) to say, then keep your fool mouth shut.”

& like the Gods say, “Show & Prove son”.

Are you up to the challenge?

Zacreole

http://www.blogspot.com/zacreole zacreole

Oop’s

zacreole Says:

September 3rd, 2007 at 10:40 pm
Wow. Ignorance again. 1st, everyone, if you are going to voice your opinion, please do so intelligently & properly. To not do so proves that you can’t. No “ALL-CAPS”, please use spell check (if you have to) & follow the rules of proper grammar & pronunciation.

“Purple Hulk”, “Dark ???” & “lol” (rote if there ever was an appropos (fitting) definiton of a pseudonymn); please do tell us; (your awaiting audience) what type of hip-hop do you like? What artists do you approve of? We wanna believe you but you need more people.

It seems as if y’all despise everyone’s attempt at expression & communication but your own. Who are your favorite artists? What are your true feelings? It seems as if you only communicate with seemingly impotent verbal retaliation with no actual thoughts, ideas or opinions exchanged.

Please elaborate on why you feel the way you do (collectively & individually) in regards to hip-hop & your constant state of insubordination & rebellion in regards to your apparently egregious interpretation of the “Status Quo”.

Like Mama used to say, “If you ain’t got nothin’ good (or meaningful) to say, then keep your fool mouth shut.”

& like the Gods say, “Show & Prove son”.

Are you up to the challenge?

Zacreole

(I’m that tight on the proofreading that I don’t need anything but my own oversight. Sory for the mistake. I’m only human. What are you?)

Mike

The huge, huge majority of white hip hop fans are like me. I grew up listening to rap, for no reason other than I loved the music. Don’t act like every hip hop fan that is white is corny, fake thuggish punk’s who would shit their pants in the hood. I have been around every walk of life and my love and knowledge of hip hop has probably made me more diverse friends than any thing else ever could. When people of other races see that I don’t try to act like anything but myself, but I still love the culture and respect the art form it shocks them. This isn’t one of those I am down because I am friends with black people story, but there have been many times when I worked in restaurants in Savannah, GA as the only white guy and my love of hip hop made me part of the family. I am not talking about rich black people, but people who live in some of the roughest projects in the country and made 6.00 an hour with 3 kid at home. That in itself should show you that hip hop can be used to break barriers and not to create them. The next time you see some douche bag white kid with a sticker on his hat slap him in the mouth, but when you see the 26 year old white guy with his 4 year old son in Best Buy picking up his 4th copy of The War Report know that is what it’s all about.

Fire

Dark,
Thanks for saying the discussion we had was intellectual. In the previous talk we had, I believe (correct me if I’m wrong or it wasn’t clear) I mentioned that I write my own rap lyrics. I don’t try to be anybody I’m not when I write, I’m just being me. I can’t stand people who try to be something they’re not. But me being me includes wearing my hat backwards and having some rappers on my T-shirts (which aren’t baggy as shit). I’ve liked doing that for a while, and I’m not being nor was I ever a wigger with it. I guarantee you that no one at my high school (graduated May ’07), whatever race, would ever call me a wigger or poser, I’m just being me. And I forget who said this, but they had a good point. What abput some of he talentless MCs rapping about materialistic and idiotic bullshit? Not that it’s not all right every once in a while, but when it’s all we hear, it’s crap. Hip hop needs balance.

http://www.blogspot.com/zacreole zacreole

“dark!”

(you don’t deserve capitalization)

Go the fuck back to Africa. You’s a punk ass mu’fucka & if I ever meet you I WILL BEAT THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF YOU. People are people. Who the fuck are you, the Black Ku Klux Klan? If so, you betta ever not come across my path. Bigots are bigots. If you are Black (which I seriously doubt) you are a sorry excuse for a spokesperson of African America.

Even if you are Black, you are nothing but an Uncle Tom with unrealistic fantasies of destroying everyone who tricked you into emasculating yourself, bitchassnigga. You have no-one else to blame for your shame butt (& yes I meant the misspelling) you, you bitch-ass-nigga-punk. Quit tryin’ to blame everyone else for your problems of self esteem & realize your own responsibility for your own inadequecy, punk.

Thanks for pointing out the thing about Kanye’s lyrics. Rap is not what it use to be, but I think it will come around. Until then, I’ll stick to my freestyle music (TKA & Stevie B) since I’m a spic from Miami. I’d love to know what you favorite Baba Booey song. Mine is Conga Booey.

http://xxlmag.com DARK

Leroy yes you are right I say it all the time wack mafuckas like young sleezy and joc,d4l,wayne and baby,webie,shop boys,lil jon(mostly southern rappers) contribute to trashing and destroying hiphop and yes the majority are black.all rap is about nowadays is money bling hos its bullshit.Now I love pussy I love girls but when a rappper is in a music video talking about the hood theres no need to have some girl in the background shaking her ass cause thats not wut the topic of the hood is.I lost my brother when I was young to gangbullshit.he was a blood and was killed by crips.thats the reallity of the hood.and that shit was back in 87.I only listin to the old shit classic gangster shit,like 2pac,mc eiht,NWA,just that classic real shit I dont even listen to most of this garbadge u call hiphop today.hiphop has turned into a real gimick.all they want is some mafucka that will go on and on about money.and its jus why i hate wiggers,spiggers and asains acting black so much and of course these fake black rappers as well. mexicans out in la dont act black at all the racial violence between blacks and mexicans in la still goes on to this day.u have to really be frum the hood to even get wut im saying.

http://www.blogspot.com/zacreole zacreole

& yes, to anyone who may be curious, I am a Black Man (whatever that means). So what. Above all, I’m a HUMAN. Who are you to differ with my opinion? Are you not a Human? Did you evolve from a different stew? Do you truly know & appreciate how rare it is for any life to exist in the universe?

Get real, punk. Life is life. We have more in common with dirt or rocks or scrap metal than we have with supposed racial beliefs. We are all made of carbon, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, helium, sodium, chlorine, magnesium, zinc, potassium, selenium, phosphorus, helium, calcium, etc.

So?

What?

Are you so Black, White, Native, Latino, Asian, Middle Eastern, Mixed etc. that you are not Human anymore? Wake up & smell the Primordial Stew. We are all dying & may not continue to grow & evolve if we continue to be ignorant little punks who are only concerned with trivial matters of historical (in)significance. Read.

Bill Bryson.

Joseph Conrad.

The Bible.

The Koran.

The Torah.

The Vedas.

The Upanishads.

The Bhagavad-Gita.

Science.

Mythology.

Any-fucking-thing.

Whatever is in your grasp, your midst, check it out. You only live once. Why be a fool when you can learn? What, MTV goit your brain. Video games are too “cool” to pay attention to what’s going on in your life. Your DREAMS?

Word.

Words.

History Is NOW.

Don’t be caught ignorant.

Zacreole

LEROY

zacreole. i couldnt have said it better myself (honestly tho thats real scientific.) when you break shit down you realize how stupid this racial shit is. im only interested in being human. all the other shit is just complicating whats really just simple. peace.

Fire

Ghost Says:

September 3rd, 2007 at 8:13 pm
Where’s the love people? Where’s the respect? Not one of us can definatively say “hip hop is X” so lets just see where the art form goes. Big ups to Kool Herc, Grandmaster Flash, and Afrika Bambataa who started this shit but, like painting or sculpture, it changes over time. I mean if modern images looked like cave paintings, how would that be a sign of progress? Some people think “indie” shit isn’t hip-hop, some people think “gangsta” shit isn’t hip-hop. Please, by all means have your opinions but there is nothing constructive about attempting to destroy something that isn’t concrete – art. Peace.
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Co-sign. Couldn’t have said it better myself.

http://xxlmag.com DARK

Zacreole get fuckin real bitch,first ur talkin like some gay faggot fuckin internet thug punk pussy bitch then u turn aorund and start talking all this spirtual bullshit u sound like one of thos faggots who go out in flower feilds and sit down and medititate.”Go the fuck back to Africa”and im the uncle tom?r u out of ur fucking mind i doubt ur even black u sound like a kkk mafucka.im a bigot?ur a real fucking faggot.i give props to leroy,mike,and fire for not acting like pussy internet thug homo fags like u Zacreole go fuck urself.leroy,mike and fire r at least having intellcual descussions.Zacreole go fuck off on some hipy website or somting u retard pussy lil shit oh yeah btw only wiggers and shit make threats over the internet.quit watching scarface punk bitch or no wait go meditate in your corn feild you freak ass motherfucker.

gkid

Amen to this article. Music as a whole sucks. Mainstream is filled with garbage, hiphop is rulled by nonsense. Soulja boy is the worste rapper and has the worste song but his single is number 2 on the hot100. Its because labels are buying these radio stations and they are not doing their jobs which is to play the good stuff and requests.

THA WEATHERMAN

I swear all you guys are some southern hip-hop haters, its all just music, and most of the music are for the kids anyway, why would they wanna get out of school to listen to people like talib? I got all the love for him but just think about it. They want fun records, like “ay bay bay”. It might be ignorant but its catchy, and thats what it takes to hit the charts. And not all the south is like that. Pay attention to lil wayne, gorilla zoe, bun b, people who are versitile.

Bol’s new nickname

FAKE ASS HIPSTER FATBODY CRACKA HAPPY ASS NIGGA

haha

FAKE ASS HIPSTER FATBODY CRACKA HAPPY ASS NIGGA!

http://www.blogspot.com/zacreole zacreole

“dark”

I respect your right to have, form, & voice your own opinion. I don’t, however, respect your opinion. Rather, I don’t respect how you choose to voice it. Lemme give you some constructive criticism:

DARK Says:

September 4th, 2007 at 12:12 am
Zacreole get fuckin real bitch,(1)first(2) ur talkin like some gay faggot fuckin internet thug punk pussy bitch then u turn aorund and start talking all this spirtual bullshit(3) u(4) sound like one of thos(6) faggots who go out in flower feilds(7) and sit down and medititate.(8)”Go the fuck back to Africa”and im the uncle tom?(9)r u out of ur fucking mind i(10) doubt ur even black(11) u sound like a kkk mafucka.(12)im(13) a bigot?(14)ur a real fucking faggot.(15)i(16) give props to leroy,(17)mike,(18)and fire for not acting like pussy internet thug homo fags like u Zacreole(19) go fuck urself.(20)leroy,(21)mike and fire r at least having intellcual(22) descussions.(23)Zacreole go fuck off on some hipy(24) website or somting u retard pussy lil shit(25) oh(26) yeah btw only wiggers and shit make threats over the internet.(27)quit watching scarface(28) punk bitch or no wait go meditate in your corn feild(29) you freak ass motherfucker.

There. I counted at least 20 major errors in your diction, punctuation, spelling, capitalization, spacing & placement. I did not count the obvious misspellings u made 4 the purpose of abreviation.

For the record, I apologize for whatever threat you may have felt from my post. I was simply trying to give you a taste of the visciousness that you randomly & frequently spew to almost everyone on this site who makes a post regarding, well, anything.

& yes, one can be both tough & spiritual. Intellectual debate requires respect & a modicum of politeness. Or rather lack of blatant rudeness. I was merely giving you an example of how you frequently come across.

Internet thug I am not. Watching Scarface?-I’ve seen it before once or twice. Have you not also? Meditating?-I do whenever I get the chance. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with quietly thinking to one’s self.

Hippie? Well, maybe, depending on what your interpretation of an individual with liberal values & a desire to understand the world & the universe in terms of science, knowledge & wisdom. White? Black? Whatever. I’m multiracial like many are & most will someday be. Call me whatever you like but you can’t call me stupid. The care in which I write proves that I use my mind & I self critique before criticizing others.

It is one of my most sincere desires to see humans give up on this tired belief system that we are who we are as individuals solely due to our “race”. I agree that economics, politics, religious beliefs, culture, education, personal preferences, geographical location, health, history, genetics & individual free will make up the components of an individual & groups of individuals.

“Race” & skin color do not. Every so called “race” has people with light & dark skin. Every so called “race” has people with distinguishing features that don’t quite fit the visually represented generalization of what members of that particular “race” look like.

My problem with you & your posts is that you continuously seemingly attack others who voice their opinions with racial epithets. “Race” simply does not exist.

Race is a term that was defined & introduced to the popular lexicon of the English language as a definitive adjective used to describe the competitive rate at which slaveholders acquired slaves. Look it up for yourself.

All biological life on this planet is grouped, classed & defined by this simple structure; Kingdom. Phylum. Class. Order. Family. Species. No race to be found.

A black dog & a yellow dog can mate & produce white, brown, spotted, striped, black, yellow, red, brindled, fawn, etc. puppies. Dogs have been interbred for centuries to reduce the chance of birth defects & deformities that are the result of inbreeding. One day soon, people will be the same way.

The reason that dogs (& for the record-people) can interbreed is due to the fact that they, (we), are all of the same Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family & Species. Basically meaning virtually the same molecularly & genetically. The fact that diversity exists in similar (same) species should be welcomed as healthy & desireable. Who wants to be the same as someone else anyhow?

Dark, I feel where you are coming from when you call people “Uncle Toms”. I think you are meaning someone who is a sellout. Or rather, an individual who has sacrificed his or her integrity or betrayed their friends & family to seek personal profit & gain. Also I see that you have particularly ill feelings towards individuals who pose as something they are not in order to gain acceptance from a group of individuals with differing characteristics, qualities & experiences. True, people who front can be annoying. But please remember, imitation is truly the most sincere form of (what should be taken as, anyway) FLATTERY.

BTW, have you actually read the book bearing the name of your epithet of choice by Harriet Beecher-Stowe? If you have not maybe you should. It might give you further understanding of why people choose to do the things they do.

Dark, I appreciate you giving me another opportunity to do what I love to do: write. No hard feelings homie (cuz I’m not a homosexual & I don’t like you in that way-But if any of you are then that’s ok. Just be you. ‘chuckle’). Anyhow, props for giving a damn enough about anything to take the time to voice your opinion & create the opportunity for further discourse.

No matter what you identify with, just be yourself. You surely can’t be anyone else. Why would you want to?

Zacreole

PS

Please answer my question. What kind (& who) of hip-hop do you like? I’d be interested to hear what & who you give respect & approval to.

LOWENDOFDACHI

Bol is right, but the only way that shit will change is if everybody that feels this way actually went out and supported those artists making music of substance. Stop downloading b/c you’re too cheap to go out and cop the official album. As far as EL-P and Aesop Rock are concerned, that bs about them only appealing to the emo, skateboarding crowd is just that: bullshit. I grew up on the southside of Chicago surrounded by gang culture, yet still managed to develop an appreciation for EL-Producto’s music b/c the shit was groundbreaking and challenged the staleness of the status quo. Open-mindedness comes w/age, and alot of you appear to be real young.

http://www.blogspot.com/zacreole zacreole

Oops. I forgot 5. I owe ya one.

z

LOL

LOL@ THAT FAGGOT WRITIN ESSAYS AND EXPECTIN PEOPLE TO GIVE A FUCK.

CLIFF NOTES BITCH.

UR REPLY IS LONGER THAN BOL’S BLOG…FUCK OUTTA HERE

clarknova

Ah, LOL and Dark, and Purple Hulk. Are all you guys on the DL, is that the deal? Is that why you’re so tied up about homosexuality, you gotta pretend you hate it to cover your tracks? Hey guys (gays?)- if you hate ALL indie hip hop, ALL modern hip hop, and only listen to shit from ’98 or before, why even post here? My guess- because you’re comment thread thugs…fucking sad. I cannot wait until you idiots get bored and move on to some other place to spew hate and bile.

As much as I never thought it would happen, I have respect for a lot of what Dark has to say. Maybe he’s not a biggot after all. LOL on the other hand, definitley is. Kritiq, I thought you said some shitty things before, don’t censor your posts to “not offend me”. I’m not blind, I know there is a lot of white people out there that fuck things up. I just hate when it’s generalized that all white people are here to exploit and fuck up hip hop. I’m just here to enjoy it.

LOL

GENERALIZATIONS ARE GENREALLY TRUE.

LOL

AND ITS THE MENTALITY OF A WHITE PERSON O TAKE SHIT OVER.

THEY CANT STAND THAT HIPHOP IS CUUL AND IS BLACK MUSIC, SO THEY TRY TO FRONT LIKE WHAT BLACK AND WHATS POPULAR IS NOT HIPHOP AND THEIR EMO ASS INDIE ROCKMUSIC HIPHOP IS ‘REAL HIPHOP’

FUCK ALL U CRACKA ASS SAGE FRANCIS , SLUG ,EL-P EMO ROCK FAGGOTS

Around and Around

LOL, Dark and Bruce banner are all the same white kid fucking around on his Dad’s computer. LOL/Dark/P.H. you a white bitch.

Saltine

I not white, but the over-use of the word “Cracka” is really stupid.The authro sounds like a suburban faggot who tried being ghetto-eque his whole life by not educating himself.Eat a dick Piece of shit.

Ryan

AND ITS THE MENTALITY OF A WHITE PERSON O TAKE SHIT OVER.

THEY CANT STAND THAT HIPHOP IS CUUL AND IS BLACK MUSIC, SO THEY TRY TO FRONT LIKE WHAT BLACK AND WHATS POPULAR IS NOT HIPHOP AND THEIR EMO ASS INDIE ROCKMUSIC HIPHOP IS ‘REAL HIPHOP’

FUCK ALL U CRACKA ASS SAGE FRANCIS , SLUG ,EL-P EMO ROCK FAGGOTS

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Uneducated, poor grammar, ignorant, racist. I feel bad for you honestly. I’m pretty much only going to offer you my symapthy from now on, cause you need a hug or something man. I mean, I’m not a fucking hippie or anything but everyone needs someone to love them in their life, and it looks like you just don’t have it.

Ryan

LOL Says:

September 4th, 2007 at 10:48 am
GENERALIZATIONS ARE GENREALLY TRUE

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If this is true, why did you take such offense to what you assumed was my generalization that “all black people look alike” (which I wasn’t saying, I was merely saying that Cashis looks like Charlie Murphy)? Hypocrite needs a hug.

LOL

BECAUSE WE ONLY LOOK ALIKE TO RACIST CRACKERS LIKE YOU

Fire

LOL Says:

September 4th, 2007 at 10:48 am
GENERALIZATIONS ARE GENREALLY TRUE.
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If you believe that generalizations are generally true, then do you believe all the stereotypes that some media gives to black people and rap music in particular? If you do, that’s really sad. Generalizations didn’t just come up out of thin air, but that doesn’t make them true. They are usually false.

http://xxlmag.com DARK

Zacreole um how am i threatinted by an internet fag like u look asshole ive lived all my life of threats living where im at is a everyday threat but hey shit happens wut can i do im stuck here i wont front i earn enough to put some food on the table and for my bills.go on about ur corny gay jokes son its old.and ur not and internt thug then wuts this?

zacreole Says:

September 3rd, 2007 at 11:22 pm
“dark!”

(you don’t deserve capitalization)

Go the fuck back to Africa. You’s a punk ass mu’fucka & if I ever meet you I WILL BEAT THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF YOU. People are people. Who the fuck are you, the Black Ku Klux Klan? If so, you betta ever not come across my path. Bigots are bigots. If you are Black (which I seriously doubt) you are a sorry excuse for a spokesperson of African America.

Even if you are Black, you are nothing but an Uncle Tom with unrealistic fantasies of destroying everyone who tricked you into emasculating yourself, bitchassnigga. You have no-one else to blame for your shame butt (& yes I meant the misspelling) you, you bitch-ass-nigga-punk. Quit tryin’ to blame everyone else for your problems of self esteem & realize your own responsibility for your own inadequecy, punk.

around aorund?u dont make sense one how am i white?two why were u agreeing with me in previous blogs wutever u most be confused.

Ryan cool im not a bigot like ive been sayin and i got respect for fire and that mike guy as well.i only have a problem with wiggers and shit pual wall a perfect example but i guy like mike who just likes to listin to it and mike a whiteguy said himself if he saw a whitekid dressin black he would smack em.zacreol tho if he even is black is a prefect example of a fake black person who lives in tha burbs and thinks he smart when he not.

Cuban Link

Bol,

Is it even possible to pass out from drinking beer?Ive drank shitloads of beer and just barely got drunk, let alone passing out.Whiskey is the only shit that can really make u take the fall these days.

Fergie can do whatever she wants because everyone wants to fuck her.Id sit and watch her perform a ballad if she was dressed sexy.But, she really isnt as sexy in Big Girls Dont Cry, but it still reminds me of shit from that video where she was in the candy and the Girl Scout outfit.And what kind of name if Big Girls dont Cry anyway?

The reason everyone loves country now is cuz all white people are converting to it.Isnt it funny how once the south took over hip hop, the ultimate Southern genre took over the music industry?Fucking hicks!

And black people have that option to turn to country to, they just need to wait till their 30 or 40.I was in South Carolina and looking for a hip hop station, or at least a station playing todays hits, and I hit a country station playing some guy that sounded like Biggie with a southern accent, and he had a song about beating his wife.I couldnt tell if it was a song against or for wife beating, cuz u know how they are down theyre.The radio station guy called him jamal or something so u can guess hes black, and they were calling his new type of country music “hick hop”.Seriously.

Fucking racists! Whats next a KKK comeback?

joeink

it’s cool to be stupid!

http://myspace.com/jamaicanhottgyal Forbidden Fruit

Yeah, ur a racist. Umm Hey There Delilah was the shyt. Well at least I liked it :) I kno everyone has a right to their opinions but… ur opinions really suck! Hip Hop is neither black nor white. Anyone who knows hip hop would understand that. So tell me, was there no one else that could’ve got this job?