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According to what Shinji quoted of Urahara "There were no miscalculations.......that was my greatest miscalculation".
I get the feeling once the Vaizardization was finished.........Urahara regretted what he had created. He may have spurned the vaizards then, and hence a gap grew between them.

I think, what happened is, uruhara managed to subdued those hollow side, allowing them to revert to their normal shinigami/human form (but not totally removed them but not aware of that fact).. thus the vizards blamed him for that, because somehow, some of them maybe goes berserk...

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They all had to went through the stage where they had to fight their own hollows like Ichigo did. So the Hyogyoku wasn't enough to turn them into Vaizards right away, rather it only gave them a chance.

btw, Kina, you can put those crazy speculations to rest... Rukia didn't exist yet when all of this was going down. Or at least not in Seireitei. This is way in the distant past when Byakuya was still going through puberty.

The Hougyoku was placed in the gigai, Urahara gave her when Ichigo took her powers in the beginning. It was what was preventing her from regaining her powers.

I'm wondering if Aizen already had control of Central 46 at this point in time through hypnosis or illusion or whatever you want to call it. I mean, far beyond just telling them that he was in sereitei the night of the incident. If that's the case that would be in-fucking-sane to have power over SS for that long without anyone knowing.

Why didn't Urahara explain the powers of Aizen's shikai, also who else thinks that the whole Urahara and the Vaizard escaping was just a part of SS's plans so that if anything happens they will always have back up in the real world. Also I would laugh if Yamamoto is the one who sent Yoruichi after explaining the situation.

MelodyMix: But what it basically says is, because the Hougyoku was a dangerous substance Kisuke decided to hide it somewhere, and that somewhere was in Rukia’s soul. And after a few years when Rukia came to the human world and gave Ichigo her power Kisuke took that opportunity to destroy the Hougyoku for good by giving Rukia a “special gigai” and turning her into a human. Because the Hougyoku was hid inside Rukia’s soul, as her Shinigami powers disappeared at the same time the Hougyoku will disappear as well, turning her into a human.

Nothing written about when Kisuke hid the Hougyoku inside Rukia or why he chose her. But VIBEs just proved the Hougyoku was inside Rukia before she met Ichigo and gave her power to him.

btw, Kina, you can put those crazy speculations to rest... Rukia didn't exist yet when all of this was going down. Or at least not in Seireitei. This is way in the distant past when Byakuya was still going through puberty.

The Hougyoku was placed in the gigai, Urahara gave her when Ichigo took her powers in the beginning. It was what was preventing her from regaining her powers.

Look at GB post just above..

OWNED?

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If that is indeed true, then theres massive inconsistency. How and when? All of this happened before Rukia was even around. Is Urahara a god or something? Only possible explanation is if he had someone to cooperate with him in S.S. years later, and entrusted that person to stick it inside an unexpected soul... but how is that even possible without having that person aware, unless you knock that person out cold first... it makes absolutely no sense... this makes my head hurt. Theres also the possibility that he had Yoruichi do it, since she's not restricted from returning to S.S. like Urahara was.

Its also possible that Kubo completely forgot about the timeline when he decided to do the flash back arc. Vibes came out like, what? 2 years ago? This could be one of those things where it'll remain a plot hole forever.

Not really, they age slowly in SS. Uruhara probably just pick some random soul in some random place in SS to hide hougyoku before escaping, it just happened that the one he picked end up to have strong soul enough to become a shinigami.

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“This be the realest shit I ever wrote.” ~Tupac
So very dead right now.. but still breathing thank you.

I don't think it works on Shinigamis, But Kina you could be right, that during his escape he probably ran into a young Rukia and implanted it into her. Whats the exact timeline of these flashbacks? Was it mentioned? We know that she's 150 years old roughly, so for Kisuke himself to do it, it'll have to be within that time frame.

After rewatching episode 61, and reading the manga, I realized how I mistaken about how the Hougyoku was placed inside Rukia, or should I say when?

so if shinji is going to try and get aizen back, wtf did shinji and the vizards wait for 100yrs to plot there revenge? there was nothing stopping them from doing it even without waitin 100yrs. This just shows us how weak these vizards are.....or not confidence in themselves

Even if they join the winter war, SS would still try and dissolve them since they are not on equal terms....