Vast Aire - Battle of the Planets (Def Jux x Cage Diss)

In response to Cage's comments (shown in the block quote below) about Vast's relationship with Camu Tao (Rest in Peace).

It bothered me very much to see a lot of his enemies claiming this Love they had for him the day after he passed but none when he was dying for a year and a half. Some of you made it right with him before he died. I can understand except one person and in honor of Tero a true shit starter and fire ignitor I would like to out VAST AIRE you are a LIAR and Camu hated you and you know it. You shit on him when you knew he was dying. You disrespected his fiancee weeks after his passing with disrespectful emails.

Whatever the case may be... this shit is depressing. If both of ya'll were close to Camu why disrespect him by using his name and life as a reason to beef? And even if this wasn't about Camu... the track was still underwhelming. Anyone remember the Esoteric, Cage, Copywrite, El-P diss tracks? 7700 Years to Date, 9 Lashes, Mercy Killing, Haterama, Do It, etc. There was so much heat from every person involved with that beef. I might have to make a post about that shit. Shouts to Vega.

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Vast Aire is fucking terrible. And I'm not a fan of Cage, but Shake is right, the whole Demigodz/Def Jux beef was crazy.

Adup

Not sure if Vast having aspergers and is somewhat socially retarded is helping him out, but if what Cage said is true, I feel bad for both sides.

Adup

Without leaning to either side. I'm going to make a neutral comment about the beat. It's fucking awesome. Eod.

http://www.myspace.com/rajungle Ra

disrespectful emails.... hahaha.. where is this damn world goin to, it sure aint gettin anywhere

GrinDAILY

That was the worst song I've ever heard in my life... if you want to hear a real "dis song" download Eminem's "the warning"...Mariah Carey is obviously not the hardest choice for a rapper to talk shit about, but none the less it's a far better example of getting your point across then vast aire's wack rhyming patterns and verses about cole slaw.

J.Hoffa

the demigodz/def jux beef was lame....glad it's over.

Adup

^^ Don't underestimate Vast's skills. He has proved himself worthy on The Cold Vein. This might not be as good, but you damn well should know Vast made a legendary album along with Vordul Mega.

demise

eh @ this track. but saying vast is fucking terrible is a joke. cold vein = classic, and no not because of vordul

http://thecryptonline.com VegaTheChosen

Peace Shake,
Also if you forgot, on Vast Aires "look mom no hands" album he made a full diss track for Esoteric for his friend CAGE!!! and now this lol

lupehimself

vast is sorry

http://soundverite.blogspot.com/ Sound Vertie

emo beef?

http://Www.myspace.com/pettie88 L. Shaw

vast aire definitely has his moments but as of late he has been very predictable with his verses .....it's all pop culture references and punchlines with no "sting" (for lack of a better word) behind them....and this beat is fuckin rediculoid...it deserved way better

skeme

this was a weak diss..but "the cold vein" is a classic

bc1391

I didn't even know they had beef like that. The beat is dope but the diss itself is alright. I imagine Def Jux can come better than this.

fo real.

def jux & vast aire, & all other artists who feel their shit & have similar styles (from the beats to the rhymes) = The most cornball side of hip hop.

Skylar

Why post any of this in the first place? Rest in Peace Camu Tao is the only thing that should be said.

b.

that was a shitty vast song. so now cats are labeling underground hip-hop "emo hop" and now "emo beef?" you serious? a lot of the "emo cats" would rip a shit into a lot of your rappers. i suppose you're a "gangsta hop" or "hipster hop"-per huh? see how dumb that sounds? lol

C-Town

"You can get tossed. You are not the boss." Come on, man. Vast Aire hasn't done shit worth listening to since Cold Vein and that record was done 8 years ago. You can't live off that forever. This track is absolutely pathetic. The beat is fresh, but Vast Aire ruins it. I agree...if they all loved Camu so much they would let this shit die outta respect. Bottom line, Vast Aire HAD skills. He sucks NOW. Sorry.

C-Town

Oh and if this bullshit is gonna continue, hopefully we'll at least get some dope tracks out of it. So far this and the Vast diss Cage did ain't cuttin it. Maybe El-P will drop something as decimating as 7700 Years To Date. If you guys remember correctly, that shit ended the beef with Eso. Eso was smart and let the shit go after that. Let's be real. If El-P, Tame One or Aesop Rock wanted to destroy Vast they could very easily. So hopefully Vast keeps his mouth on Cage and doesn't move towards any other Weathermen.

Lito

that beat is fire

thunda thighs

He barely dissed him at all. He really just babbles about random shit then repeats some stuff that El-P wrote for him on the cold vein.

I'd like to hear Cage get this sick instrumental and diss him right back with it.

JackKerorap

i still dig Vast, his albums are good, and his appearances are dope. but dissing a former friend, label mate, etc is just sad. especially since all the shit they've been through. and fo real and hoffa are fucking idiot. Aesop Rock, Lif and all of them shit on the majority of MCs you clowns would think are dope. Just as well, that beef was sick. it showed that El-P and them weren't always abstract lyricists. Esoteric is dope as fuck and El-P tore him a new asshole.

The more I hear Vast, the more I'm convinced El-P ghostwrote for him on The Cold Vein. Makes you wonder how someone who dropped one of the best underground albums of all time can suck this bad. This is garbage.

@Khal> And no, Esoteric finished the beef on Mercy Killing. Jux just spent the next 3 years whining about it to act hard.

HellaFire

yo a post about that El-p/Cage/Copywrite/Esoteric beef would be appriciated man... u shud do that

Brooklyn Illa

Vast Aire is classic...Harlem....Cage aint got shit for Vast...Cold Vein will never be duplicated...EL P is garbage....they damn sho dont want none of VORDUL.......NEW YORK WHAT UP

Adup

^^ You do know El-P produced the entirity that is The Cold Vein?

keyzer

damn. how did i not find that. all the links i found when searching were already dead.

keyzer

@c-town. got the password for it?

http://www.rockthedub.com khal

@Khal> And no, Esoteric finished the beef on Mercy Killing. Jux just spent the next 3 years whining about it to act hard.

^^^^^^^^^

El-P won the battle with "77,700", just like Nas won with "Ether", I don't give a shit how many tracks came afterwards. And are you serious about that el-p writing for vast claim?

i feel like i must be the only one with fucking ears. it's a good diss track.

i'm a huge def jux fam. i'll sleep when your dead is one of my top 10 all time.

and yes, vast when in on this one.

"you under siege, and you ain't above the law" dope movie references.

"i murder, like coffee cigarettes, and hamburger" dope.

"he eats chocolate, he bites M&Ms (eminem)" zing!

"i'm pissing on him, now he's a weatherman, he better check the forecast...' sick as fuck.

I mean seriously. wtf? are you people stupid? why do some of you people act like you have to have a million syllables in a rhyme a la el and aesop to be dope?

el is one of my fave mcs ever. aesop fell off a long time ago. seriously. he will not age as well as ghost whose style aesop is indebted to. but i want to see vast battle them and cage to prove his mettle cause motherfuckers are acting like dude is not sick.

oh god, and to the dude to say tame one would kill vast? are you a fucking idiot? dumb question, you are a fucking idiot. does tame one have a classic album?

http://www.myspace.com/handsexisordeal ordeal

Yo this is the weakest dis track i ever heard! When el-p made a dis on 7&L and Esoteric shit was 8 mins and the whole song was a personal insult to them and all their ppl.
So ya cage grew up, lost weight and changed his clothes. He changed his sound up a bit, and i agree the nu album is like 50/50, but yo Vast Aire is no where near as good as he was when he was down with def jux. Everything after the first scissor tongue disc is bunk. its like he ran outta shit to say. And hes reppin the 603???? I lived in New Hampshire, the whole state is pussy gimme a break.. and that dude genesis sounds like sum1 shit out a verse and wiped their ass with the track…a 7 minute dis with a 90 second intro and 2 mins of the beat riding out at the end. i figured i was gonna hear like sum ill shit but vast has to be careful cuz he got alot of money and music tied up with def jux. he never mentions elp or aesop but how u gonna come at their bread and butter and expect to be friends later? dudes bugging! So vast aire has copywrite, metro, genesis and …wow if thats the foundation of his new team, theyll consistenly be in last place..if u want real hip hop that doesnt suck and is better than vast even, chek the url…peace

http://www.myspace.com/handsexisordeal ordeal

and aesop fell off??? hes one of the only relevant ones doing it in the underground now besides anticon cats like doseone and themselves and out there shit like that. those corny metaphors and punchlines in battle... r playskool. fuck a milllion syllables just make it a good song. half the song is the beat playing with vast reppin pussy NH..gimme a break i like whoever beefs r gay if its good its good, but u cant honestly think that wack ass hambuger and eminem reference ws cool. shit is played. cagewas out with the centobites in 93, he had a record deal b4 emienm, and hasnt mentioned the dude in like 7 yrs...

DUECE BUG

OK IDIOTS!! "603" IS NOT AN AREA CODE- ITS 60TH AND 3RD IN BROOKLYN! (BROTHERHOOD603= HIS PRODUCERS) GET A FUCKING CLUE. NEW HAMPSHIRE?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

formerfan

great diss track. The good ol days of def jux are long gone. Vast knows it, and the rest of the fellas on the label are in denial about it. BTW, did anyone else notice that the horns on this beat are the same as the synth part at the beginning of the original Scream Phoenix? I am not a huge Vast Aire fan, but he is at least real. And El-P's claim to be this above-it-all peaceful guy now? laughable.

xeroth3t3ck

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Symbiotic

this track is like Cage riding the Agent Orange beat because his production now is whack, and to battle over this? If he was really Tao's friend he wouldn't have posted some cornball attempt at a diss to Cage with a beat made by El-P then try to diss Def Jux. So lets be honest if it where me I would've just brought it to Cage no wax if I was that tight with Mu. Second I wouldn't wait till the dude released his album aloong with a video by Shia. To me it seems like Vast is dick riding Cages fame party hoping to get a buzz off a beat produced by Def Jux who obviously made Vast not the other way around, because when Vast was AToms Fam no one knew who the fuck the dude was.

Symbiotic

this track is like Cage riding the Agent Orange beat because his production now is whack, and to battle over this? If he was really Tao's friend he wouldn't have posted some cornball attempt at a diss to Cage with a beat made by El-P then try to diss Def Jux. So lets be honest if it where me I would've just brought it to Cage no wax if I was that tight with Mu. Second I wouldn't wait till the dude released his album along with a video by Shia. To me it seems like Vast is dick riding Cages fame party hoping to get a buzz off a beat produced by Def Jux who obviously made Vast not the other way around, because when Vast was AToms Fam no one knew who the fuck the dude was.

Symbiotic

"does tame one have a classic album?" ARE YOUR FUCKING SERIOUS? The Artifacts' ring a bell Tame One would shit on Vast all day if they were to battle.

"My motto is 'Fuck you, don't follow'
Skirts who won't swallow, or get stunk tomorrow
Oh well, I still can't tell, you actin beat bitch
Beat it, no secret, I'll merk you half weeded
My bars are like Zanex's
Broke it down to fours, they bring down yours
Encyclopedia Brown, kick it in punk!"

He would murder Vast.

BoOF

HAHA!! Im gonna sit back and enjoy dis battle, but whoever said Tame One aint got a classic album can hush up, stand in da corner and listen to Tame One shit all over Vast Aire on Vast's own track "fighter pilots"
Artifacts, Thats Them ????? nuff said. But - When Rappers Attack, OG Bobby Johnson, Spazmatik, Da Ol Jersey Bastard, da new Acid Tab Vocab LP is sick.
TAME ONE AND BREEZE BREWIN CARRY WEATHERMEN ON THEIR BACK!
Cage fell off, Aesop only drops good verses on his LP's, EL-P rapping is just gettin further and further away, but (still sick producer) Yak Ballz aint doin too bad tho.

hamilton

i didnt even bother listening to the song, cause i really dont care I'm just downloading some new music and trying to kill time a this coffee shop, but fuck cage..he's a whiney little baby.....he hasnt put out anything decent since leakbrothers and even that is for 19&20 year old drug fiends...go fuck your self cage..Ha!faggot! notice i use my name too...not tryin to hide behind shit, homie

I Think I saw Cage on Bedford Ave In Brooklyn

The reality is that Cage's diss was ass, someone pass that man some cocaine so he can snap out of it. Vast Aire didn't slam dunk it, but he did do a lay up. Cage, I'm not a starving pussy with delussions of being some avant garde poet, so I don't buy your shit. By the way, I was on the phone with Cage from the 90's, he said to eat some food and stop wearing clothes from Baby Gap.

THERIGHTONE

I WILL PUSH MY HANDS THROUGH YOU, I DONT NEED BULLETS

Soli

The beat is ill and he should've started off the track like he did his second verse