What I Dislike About Some GAG Men

1. They don't want to pay for dates

In an ideal world every one will see women as a mans equal. However, don't let that be the excuse to let all levels of common courtesy fly out of the window.

We learned how to treat each other with kindness since we were school age children.

I know that was a long time ago for the most of us, but that is no excuse to let solid knowledge be abandoned when it should be carried on forever.

Examples of common courtesy:

-If someone sneezes you say, "Bless you".

-If someone is walking behind you hold the door for them, instead of letting it slam in their face.

-If someone slips and falls you lend a helping hand, you may even ask if they are okay.

-If you ask someone out on a date, you offer to pay.

You get my drift.

Letter A is always followed by Letter B.

When letters get scrambled only then will things become confusing for most.

If you think the problem is that a woman does not want to pay for her own meal, then you are incorrect. The fact that you asked the woman to accompany you out and are covering all costs, makes you look like a decent person.

If paying for another person's date is a big dilemma in your life, then make it clear that you are only paying for yourself. This should be spoken about before attending the date. That would be most the most accurate way to avoid any negativity or assumption the other person may have.

2. Bitter due to lack of success with women

Throughout my years on this site, I've heard just about every horrible stereotype from GAG men when it comes to women. I find it hard to believe that these men really came from a woman. The hate they seem to have for them is shocking!

A few of the common stereotypes towards women on this site:

-All women are gold diggers.

-All women are cheaters.

-All women are bitches.

If this is your experience with women time and time again, then they aren't the core of the problem, people only treat you the way you allow yourself to be treated.

You are the common denominator.

You need to take a good look at yourself to understand why you keep attracting those types of women.

Work on yourself and develop self pride, instead of pointing fingers and becoming absorbed by your own bitterness. As hard as it is, there comes a time when cycles can only be broken if you truly reflect on what is causing it to repeat itself. If you choose to ignore it then the circle will keep going around and around.

3. Insecure of themselves

A person that is filled with bitterness is harboring the most insecurity due to their past experiences. These types of men on GAG are usually the type to make negative comments about a woman's appearance, age, and overall value as a human being.

Examples of comments:

-Women are only good for being in the kitchen and cooking.

This person is allowing themselves to be absorbed by their hate. There is no logical reason on why someone would make this comment unless they felt themselves fed up with women as a whole.

-Women are less desirable after age 23.

A man that is well over the age he is discriminating against doesn't have the ability to draw women in his own age, so he creates a logic for himself, that women younger are better and superior than women that are older. He is trying to convince himself this because it's easier to look at a diluted reality than to realize that even your own age group, does not want you because with their life experience they are able to see the dysfunction and lack of security that you bring into a relationship. You may fool the younger and naive girls that have little to no experience, but not those your own age. This is why the younger age becomes his preference.

-Women are sluts if they have more than 5 partners.

This man has had a difficult time hooking up. He harshly criticizes women who appear to have it "easy" and goes on a rampage of how morally inadequate they are compared to himself. Little do these women know is that if this man had the opportunity, he'd "slut it up" himself. He doesn't let that be known however, he portrays himself as a man that would never do such things when in reality he wishes he could.

There's some great men on this site that are completely opposite of what I described, those types are always refreshing to see.

What Guys Said 58

Good thing I am not like that and I try to put unbiased responses whenever I can. But honestly I see these things in BOTH genders on this site and its both sad. I will never be like them because I simply have enough respect for women not to. Good read though.

I still usually pay on a first date because I'm an older fuck and still hold some traditional values. But really, paying for a date has nothing to do with courtesy. With that argument, you can say the exact same thing to women. I guess I've been lucky enough to date women who don't mind taking turns after the first time, though.

the problem with this is that a lot of women are freeloaders and will use this logic to manipulate men into paying for dinners. i know a couple girls that do this and get free expensive dinners 4x a week

honestly, no girl I've been out with has expected me to take her on a dinner date as the first date (because they dont see me a beta male they can easily take advantage of.) A girl who actually respects you won't be opposed in any way shape or form to doing something on a first that date that doesn't involve a lot money... a walk in the park or coffee is good should be good enough for most women who aren't fake

Yeah... Guess my bitterness isn't from the shit women have done to me but it's my lack of success with women.

But hey, women can't do wrong can they? There can't be repercussions for their actions as their actions hold no weight unless they're positive because women don't intentionally hurt their partners on a somewhat regular basis (statistically verified as either doing so, willing to do so, or having a plan for when [not if] when they do so).

Eh, I keep myself distracted. Play guitar 3-4 hours a day and working on getting a business setup. Eventually something will fall into my lap but I need more free time and the ability to be happy and not feel like my job could be taken away at any second.

@Gommers Well, yeah, that would help. I think one thing a lot of women don't quite get is that a lot of guys need to feel stable in OTHER aspects of their lives, before they can really give themselves to a relationship. That's the way it is with me, anyway.

But there are lots of unbelievably supportive women out there, too, and sometimes they're the catalysts for a guy's life switching around. :) Me, though, I need to take care of sh** myself, feel like I'm worth something, feel like I've got something to offer, before I go for the love.

All really modern men aren't into traditional dating, which means they expect the girl to pay more or less half the fun expenses, cause, guess wheat, she makes the same amount these days!

Pretty much ditto for a lot of the rest of what you say.

Most guys know full well not ALL women are nasty and gold digging, but nearly every guy has had bad experiences with that sort, so asking them not to be a little bitter... is pretending we still live in the 19th century when there weren't so many b's and gd's and s's.

If we are speaking about two mature adults with established careers , sure she probably makes the same amount. Even if she does , why is that even a concern? If you ask you should pay, it's called proper ethics.

You want it both ways , equality when benefits are given out, but responsibilities, or anything difficult, that's men's work.

You're not unusual in modern US women, of course, Most are like you. But not many guys willingly play along any more. And there will be even less such guys as time goes on. A few feel they have to play your game to get anywhere, but only a few are now willing to play by yur rules.

Insecurity is such a wide range.It can do with looks, sexual/work performance, self doubt/conflict, etc.I notice those that are insecure tend to lash out even more on others if they don't have control over their emotions.

That's why I pull the plug sooner and sooner with women. If they're gonna start pulling the same crap as last time, I'm gonna assert myself sooner, and say: "No!" And I'll tell them why not. Even if they don't deserve an explanation.

1 - That's equality and common sense in one. I'm not paying £50 for a date if I know there won't be a second. You'll find this is more and more common with younger men. It's why you get cheap first dates and you talk about payment. We see no reason to pay for you.

2 - Ok I'll give you that. Works both ways. Women who think men just want to sleep around or aren't interested in them for vain reasons. Women tend to turn it inwards and blame themselves but I've seen women claim men should date them regardless of their own feelings. Sorry but it doesn't work that way. I won't date someone over a set size because to me it's not attractive.

3 - the less desirable thing after 23 is backed up by science. I think it's actually 22. The kitchen thing... ok their either joking or dicks. Women are "sluts" ... who put the number 5 to that? In any case I've covered this women are just as judgmental. For example you expecting men to pay for you out of "courtesy". Everything about that is you judging men for not wanting to do so.

Welcome to the world of double standards. It's ok for women to be shallow and judgmental but men aren't allowed to be?

another take to make women look better on the hopes of helping their low self esteem nice try at leastin the same time i see some gag women doing things that is considered blashphemy like -how to be man-on the first date he should pay focus on should like some right-i have a pussy meaning im a higher being-why all the gentelman went -equality in everything but not when its more suitable for women-and the biggest issue : a girl asks a guy out he rejects her what an assholehypocrisy is over 9000

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Thank you lol, if half of the dudes on here would man up, and realise that they are the problem, the world would be full of a lot less bullshitting. Stop acting all bitter, and all "poor me, a woman was once mean to me, therefore every last one of them is evil". Some women are assholes, so are some men. People don't like to date assholes. See the common thread?

1) I never let a girl pay if she's with me... at least haven't yet 2) I'm not bitter with women... I love them instead 3) I'm not at all insecure... I don't like labelling things so I don't use words like sluts or whore for any girl Anyways Nice take 👌 Applies on some guys on here

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regarding your last point, I have defended promiscuous behavior from women in general, and you are right that some or a lot of them would slut it up if they could. My problem and I can only speak for myself is that women, in spite of my mistakes, my bitterness to some women is not that they are getting laid all the time, its that they only give a chance to a certain group of men. I think her judgement is arbitrary. In my experience they seems that its of little help that I am good looking and athletic if am a nice guy. If they like so much getting laid why dont they give a chance to a decent looking guy, educated, who has the courage to approach unless you are a total jerk?

'if you ask someone out you have to pay'. By that logic, if a woman asks a man out, she has to pay. Or, if you tell 5 friends to go see a movie, and they also bring some friends, you have to pay.

When somebody asks you out, either friend or lover, it's because he's enjoying your company. And if you accept, means you enjoy his company. And you always should expect to pay for what you get when you're out, unless it's a special occasion or the person who invited you clearly states he wants to treat you

The only thing I dislike is the gold digger comments, and the fact that they think that no woman has ever been rejected. There are women out there who are gold diggers, but they don't make up the majority. I feel bad that they had to meet those kind of women instead of the ones who actually want to take care of themselves.

I've also never had success with guys. I've never had a relationship. I've never been asked out. However, either guys don't believe me about that on here or, they think that I have high standards and I reject the ones who do like me. I've never ever been asked out by any guy in my life. If a guy has been interested in me, he has never told me. I've only encountered guys who believe that I am ugly, even ones who are friends of mine.

Maybe I am just unique in this situation (which I have doubts about) but guys have just never shown any interest in me.

So I hate reading on here about how all women have to do is be a woman and every single guy will be attracted to her.

The rest of their complaints I can understand, like paying for dates for instance but not the ones I mentioned.

I agree with your 2nd and 3rd points, but the first makes you look really, REALLY bad.

You dislike a man because he won't pay for you, and you consider it common courtesy? Ummm NO. it shouldn't work that way. You can pay for yourself and offer to pay for him as well. Same "common courtesy." Your traditional way of thinking that just because you have a certain set of private parts, that you should be paid for is very unattractive to me. Whether i am on a date with a man or a woman, i offer to pay, not because of whats in between their legs, but because I want to. You should never act like some weak woman that can't take care of herself and needs others to baby you. It would be the same common courtesy if YOU offered to pay. So what exactly is so special about you that you can't offer to do pay and a guy needs to do that for you? I'm interested in knowing...

This is the way I see it... Whoever invites you or asks you on a date pays. For example let's say I ask a guy out to dinner... It's polite for me to pay since I asked him. Another example is if he invites me for a coffee date.. Then it'll be polite for him to pay since He asked Me. Just how I see it.

@diegoD How? I wrote it 5 days ago, when it was first posted. Was I talking to you or about you? No, so why are replying? If they aren't being one of the people I'm talking about then it isn't about them. Why are you picking at shit? I didn't say all guys are like that, just some out there who prove her points.