Still can't wrap my mind about why the "color" of children means F-ckAll to anyone, even in the direct family; children are....children. Anyone who criticises children for anything other than bad behavior (for which their PARENTS are really responsible) is a really poor example of ADULTHOOD and should be neutered before ever reproducing. Children are NEVER responsible for their genetic heritage for f-ck's safe. They ALL need love and nurturing. Anything less is criminal.

So what's she's basically saying is that behaving according to 'bourgeois values' - i.e. get at education (at least finish high school), get a job before getting married, get married before having kids, go to work everyday and work hard - keeps white people (and Asians, but they tend to be ignored) at the top of the socio-economic heap.

Yeah, that. My usual response to someone who says something like that (or some kind of gun grabbery, etc.) is to and say, "Let's accept for the moment that everything you say is true." (cock head, squint, smile a little) "Doesn't that just make your problem bigger?"

At some point, some people will just shrug and say, "You want a monster? I'll show you a monster." Which -- if you think about it -- is sad, because "living down to expectations" really is a big part of the overall problem.

Netpackrat wrote:CUNY professor... What a difference a single letter can make.

When I was a CUNY student (College of Staten Island) we had to connect to the CUNY mainframe computers, and we had to enter "CUNY" on the terminal to begin the connection. It's amazing how close to Y and T are on a keyboard.......