Ben Carson: When You Rob Someone Of Their Incentive, You Are Not Doing Them Any Favors

TERRY CREWS: I just wanted to say that you said something that I agree with is that giving able-bodied people handouts rather than requiring them to work for pay is every bit as cruel as activities practiced by racists in the past. Do you believe that the welfare system is racist?

DR. BEN CARSON: Let me put it this way. When you rob someone of their incentive to go out there and improve themselves, you are not doing any favors. When you take somebody and pat them on the head and say, there, there, you poor little thing, I'm going to give you food stamps, I'm going to give you housing... let me give you housing subsidies, let me give you free health care because you can't do that, and it's those people over there that's causing you to have your problem...

So what would be much more empowering is to use our intellect and our resources to give those people a way up and out.

WHOOPI GOLDBERG: Okay. Let me just speak to this before we go. As a former welfare mother, very few people want to be on welfare. Very few want to walk with their kids and take food stamps, most people would rather work. Now, I don't feel bad about being a welfare mother, because I contribute as an American, that's what we do, and because the welfare system is so bizarre, you can't work, they don't allow you to work because they take the money from you. So if we fix the system, so that it doesn't hurt the people, maybe it will get better.