Turn based games and the move to develop too many platformers and side-scrollers on steam? Can't hardly find anything good in turn based games today. If it weren't for Matrixgames/Slitherine I'd go banana's.

Any suggestions for a GOOD turn based game besides the ones I already know here? Something with a decent AI also. Being turn based and no ai or no good ai is just another lame game to me.

the move to develope too many platformers and side side-scrollers on steam?

Yep, I have read an article about it. Encouraged by success of Angry Birds and whatever else, great amount of game developer wannabes are making second rate clones with little effort and send them to Steam with hopes of profit. It used to work back in the '80's (look up Mystery House and its history), but now not so much.

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You know what they say, don't you? About how us MechWarriors are the modern knights, how warfare has become civilized now that we have to abide by conventions and rules of war. Don't believe it.

Thanks all for the suggestions and I like the looks of battle brothers; been watching some vids on Youtube. Just my type of game if the AI is good. And yes Ranger mostly strategy or wargames. A board game like Gremlins Inc. is acceptable also. Collectable card games eh I can take em or leave em but if they are really good I'll try one or two. Thanks again.

As far as wargames go RTS has become endemic. It's everywhere you look.

Only three rts games I can stomach anymore: Crusader Kings II, Norbsoft's series of gamea and Command Ops games. Those total click fest wrist twitch; gather all your troops and rush the enemy I just can't stand. Those just aren't wargames in the sense of what types of wargames I'm used to playing to me.

I bought Company of Heroes and CoH2 years ago, but hated click-fests. Recently I installed them and found solutions through various mods. You can also get CoH for as little as $5 if you wait for a sale.

CoH mods include Eastern Front, Battle of the Bulge and Blitzkrieg. The latter one especially uses real tactics (Google it) to win versus the AI. The key (for me) is to use CheatEngine to slow the game down to 25% speed or less. It becomes much more interesting and manageable.

CoH2 also has many Steam Workshop mods and is CheatEngine compatible. The mods have also improved graphics, added tons of maps and units and much more. That's a lot of gaming when you pick up CoH even for full price.