Cliff Kincaid interviews Vic on TV about Pope Francis and his Marxism.

Addressing Marxist and Islamic ideology creeping into Catholicism.

It was an interesting conversation. If you have been merely worried about the damage being done to the world by Comrade President Obama (peace be upon him), look beyond American shores and you may see why I'm more worried than you are. The interview was conducted by Cliff Kincaid and Jerry Kenny of http://americasurvival.org/ and http://religiousleftexposed.com/home/.

When the Vicar of Christ is a Marxist. Here is the stored version (click the image) of the TV interview. It lasts about 45 minutes. It started Wednesday at 9:00 PM, which is past my normal bed time. And yes, the current Vicar of Christ is a Marxist.

Things I wish I had said. Time constraints and mitigating factors being as they always are, there are always other thoughts that come to mind after a good thought-provoking conversation necessarily ends. For instance ...

Jesus said His kingdom was not of this world.

This world is ruled by Satan.

Marxism is a worldly system, designed by man, to rule the world.

Islam is an ideology and a strategy of war, masquerading as a religion, designed by man, to rule the world.

Christians are called to divorce themselves from the world, in so much as they can, for the sake of the Kingdom.

Both Marxism and Islam have global ambitions, involving civil government, political power and ruler-ship of the physical world.

The alluring lie of Marxism is that it will feed the hungry, shelter the homeless and lift up the downtrodden. But, as I said in the interview, Marxism is nothing but an elaborate Ponzi-Scheme that cannot, has never, and does not intend to fulfill its false promises. The real goal of Marxism is worldly dictatorship, pure and simple.

The alluring lie of Islam is that, once all the world is in submission to and under the domination of Islam there will be peace and happiness, for all the Koranic verses of Allah being merciful apply to the Ummah, or Caliphate, or worldly domain of Islam. He is not merciful outside of the Ummah. However, once again, the real goal of Islam is worldly dictatorship, pure and simple.

The "worldly" argument regarding how man is to organize his societies then becomes one involving political power and who is to hold it. This is where human "goodness" comes into play, and the recognition of good versus evil, and right versus wrong, decent versus indecent. And that is a matter of divorcing our human behavior from the temptations of the world, for the sake of the Kingdom.

The unique American political ideology is summed up in the loyalty oath contained in the oath of office sworn by all elected American federal political office holders, all appointed high office holders and all members of the American armed forces. The loyalty oath is not directed at any man, any class, any nobility, any crown, any government, any Party or even any nation. It is directed at the law. They solemnly swear to uphold and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. We are a nation of laws, and the Constitution is the supreme law.

The American idea for governance involves not concentrating political power, but spreading it among the people. That's the reason that Americans are so proud (or used to be) of being Americans, that Europeans and others are always so confused about. We are sovereign citizens; they are not.

So the final argument is between the original and ongoing American Revolution, the original and ongoing Marxist Revolution, and the original and ongoing Islamic Revolution. These three major ideologies are the ones in play in virtually every geopolitical situation in the news today.

The dichotomy that I wrestle with involves determining whether this Pope, a couple of other Popes, and lots of Bishops and Priests, are "Useful Idiots" who have been indoctrinated, propagandized and duped, or, if they are acting with full evil intent, in on the game, with full knowledge that the ultimate goal is the attainment of global political power.

That is something I cannot know.

Watch the interview and let me know what you think.

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You should be very careful about the way you phrase your criticisms of the Pope, however valid your criticisms may be. I refer specifically to your use of the phrase, "useful idiot" in reference to him. Out of reverence at least for the Office the Pope holds, if not out of respect for the actual occupant of that Office, you should avoid using disparaging language like that. Simply stated, if one is going to criticize a Pope, he should avoid doing so on a purely personal level.

Having pointed this out, I have written on Facebook posts in at least two of my Catholic groups there that if there's one problem I can see with Pope Francis, it's that he seems to be a bit too nuanced in his actions and especially in his public comments. So far in his Pontificate, he has exhibited an unhappy tendency to make statements that are ambiguous and which can be--and all too often are--misconstrued by a general worldwide populace that has by and large lost any ability to think critically and twisted by a virulently anti-Catholic international secularist media who are only too happy to report on His Holiness' remarks in such a way that they can be cast in the least favorable light from a purely Catholic point of view. The media have been doing this for decades. We saw it with His Holiness Pope Benedict in his remarks about condoms. I'm sure you remember it. He made an offhand remark about relative evil and condoms, and the media suddenly ran with a bogus story that the Roman Catholic Church was now going to approve the use of condoms; when in reality, nothing could have been further from the truth or what Pope Benedict had actually said.

Bottom line: Nuance is not a desirable trait in a Pope. Nuance may make a person "interesting" or "fascinating" and get his picture on the cover of "People" Magazine. But what we don't want or need a Pope who's "interesting" or "fascinating". We need a Pope who will be a beacon of truth and a voice of moral clarity in an insane and depraved world which sorely needs a beacon of truth and a voice of moral clarity.

I pray for His Holiness Pope Francis every day, as every good and loyal Catholic is morally bound to do. I especially pray that, as his Pontificate progresses, he will attain a better understanding of the solemn responsibilities of his Office and who the enemies of Holy Mother Church--and his enemies--really are. He may actually have that understanding now, but I have to admit that it's extremely hard to see that sometimes.

Date: Fri Aug 08 2014From: Vic BiorsethComment:

Jim:

"Useful Idiot" is a very old and heavily used term, attributed to both Lenin and Stalin, for the convinced believers in Marx's Communist Utopia. They were always useful to the Marxist deceivers because they furthered the cause of centralizing power for the dictators; but they were dupes; they were being duped. It's a common term, and that's how I used it. If the Pope is a Marxist, and his Evangelium Gaudium definitely indicates that he is, then would you prefer that he be of the Useful Idiot variety, or of the evil, deceptive, Machiavellian schemer variety, such as Lenin, Stalin and Hitler? They fooled the people out of their liberty and into being ruled by them.

I have said a blue million times in this site that most Communists don't know that they are Communists. That's just the way it is. America, and apparently, the Church, is loaded down with Useful Idiots. The whole Democrat Party and the whole of the mainstream media are obviously guided by the pillars of Communism listed in the Manifesto, but in all likelihood very few of them are really aware of what the game is about. It would be a good bet that they never even read it. But they accept it, unread.

These things have to be talked about. They have to be at least recognized and understood for what they are. I intend to light them up.

I have been pilloried for recommending that we Outlaw Marxism in America, because Marxism opposes the Constitution in all its important points, and in every citizen right stated, and even in its purpose for being. Here are Marx's words, from his manifesto:

The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They
openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible
overthrow of all existing social conditions.

Don't look now, but "all existing social conditions" includes not only America, but the Catholic Church. And all other religions. And all other institutions.

I have been pilloried for recommending that we Outlaw Islam in America, because Islam opposes the Constitution in all its important points, and in every citizen right stated, and even in its purpose for being. Here are Mohammed's words, from his Koran:

Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do
they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow
the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until
they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a
state of subjection.

Don't look now, but that is a declaration of war against not only America, but the Catholic Church. And all other religions. And all other institutions.

Comrade President Obama, peace be upon him, has amply demonstrated that he favors Marxism over the Constitution, and that he favors Islam over the Constitution, despite having sworn the loyalty oath in his oath of office. We are now seeing what happens when such a person is elected to high office in America.

In the absence of a strong and willing America, who will stop the advance of a new Marxist army in Europe, or anywhere, including the Vatican? Who will stop the advance of Islamic Jihad, anywhere at all?

When you see Sunni Moslems advancing under the black war flag of Islam, you will come to know that the enemy they are targeting is you, personally, whoever you are, unless you are a Sunni Moslem.

When you see Shia Moslems advancing under the black war flag of Islam,
you will come to know that the enemy they are targeting is you,
personally, whoever you are, unless you are a Shia Moslem.

They are identical; they read the same Koran and follow the exact same rules. The only difference between them is who should have been the next Caliph after the death of Mohammed, who was the first Caliph. And also the first, and most brutal, anti-Semite. He declared war on all the rest of the world 1,400 years ago. The war has been on and off ever since. It is now coming back on.

Comrade President Obama can go either way, depending on which way the ball bounces in a destroyed America. He can be a Marxist dictator, or, he can get out a prayer rug and pray with his butt up in the air and pretend to be a good Moslem.

I have to wonder how Pope Francis would fare. I pray for the Pope too. And I pray that he might come around and stop helping the sworn mortal enemies of the Church, knowingly or otherwise.

Regards,

Vic

Date: Sat Aug 09 2014From: Vic BiorsethComment:

To multiple "anonymous" contacts:

I am not going to get into a bunch of private dialogues again. We can discuss it out in the open, or not at all. What I say, I say in public, and in all company.

For the record, I wasn't disagreeing with anything you said in your piece. (In the brief time that I've been a subscriber to your Newsletter, I have rarely, if ever, found anything in your work that I COULD disagree with. That's the principal reason that I became a subscriber.)

I was merely pointing out that the reverence we as Catholics should have for the Papal Office (and not merely respect for the man who occupies that Office) demands that we use more polite language than "useful idiot" when criticizing the Pope. If you had said that the Pope was grossly misinformed about the true nature of Marxism, I wouldn't have had any issue at all with your commentary.

I guess you might say it's a matter of semantics.

And I believe (or would LIKE to believe, anyway) that misinformation is actually the case here, as opposed to Pope Francis actually being the scheming, Machiavellian type of Marxist. Given what we know about Pope Francis' formation as a priest (South American Jesuit ordained in the late 1960s), lack of proper information, I believe, is the most plausible explanation. He undoubtedly received too strong a dose of "liberation theology" when he was in the seminary.

I must confess that I haven't read Evangelium Gaudium in any depth. (I had a synopsis and a critique of it from another Web site bookmarked on an Internet profile on a computer that has since gone belly-up.) I should definitely read it, and specifically, I'd like to see how it squares--or doesn't--with previous Papal encyclicals on economic issues; primarily those of Leo XIII and Pius XI.

In any case, I hope you accepted my criticism in the constructive spirit in which I offered it. Thank you, Vic. And may God reward you for the work you're doing.

Jim

Date: Mon Aug 11 2014From: Vic BiorsethComment:

Jim:

Thank you; so far you're the only one to agree with me publicly. Others whisper their agreement, and then make their goal the next foxhole.

The problem with my use of black-and-white language differentiating the two kinds of Marxists is that most people have yet to recognize the simple fact that there are two and only two varieties of Marxists: those who are being duped, and those who are doing the duping.

I would hazard a guess that today, thanks to government indoctrination (I mean education) and and government propagandizing (I mean news reporting and commentary) 90% or more of the world's adult population do not know that.

Most people think of Marx as a multifaceted intellectual thinker - a philosopher, an economist, a great social planner, etc. But he was none of those things. He wrote no great social treatise; what he wrote was the Communist Manifesto. He was no great philosopher; what he was was a dark, brooding bloody revolutionary. Marxism, in whole and in all its many sub-parts, is and was from the beginning an implacable mortal enemy of the Catholic Church, of America, and of every other social institution on Earth. The only other social institutions it temporarily cooperates with are "Useful Idiot" institutions merely of temporary usefulness to the greater cause of the Marxist revolution. (The Russian Orthodox Church; the UN; various factions from within Islam; organized labor; etc.)

I cannot mince words about that. People need to know. Any Marxist is either a diabolically clever plotter, or a dupe, pure and simple. And that goes for clerics, including Popes.

Again, we are not talking about anything from within the Sacred Deposit of Faith, which was closed with the death of the last original Apostle. We are talking about Marxist world revolution, and the sub-topics of Marxist collectivism, redistributionism, the elimination of private property, planned and controlled economies, the end of sovereignty and sovereign nations, etc. The end of hunger. A worker's paradise. Man made heaven, or Utopia. Perfected worldliness.

When the Holy Father speaks on doctrine, which is to say, on matters from within the Depositum Fide, I rise to my feet an listen with my very soul, for he does not speak alone. The Holy Ghost protects him from error.

But when he speaks of the glories of Communism, born in 1848, I sit back down and take careful notes. The dichotomy in this is how Communism hates and intends to destroy Catholicism, and yet we have high ranking Catholic clerics who have a soft spot for Communism.

Kind of reminds me of ranking American politicians. It's the same situation.

PS: Jim, look up Pope Alexander VI, for an example of perhaps the worst of several "bad" Popes. Infallible does not mean impeccable. No Pope ever taught erroneous Catholic doctrine, including the worst of them. That does not mean that they were all perfect, or that they all necessarily made it to Heaven. A Pope can be scandalous, a scoundrel, a criminal or even a fool, and still be protected from doctrinal error in accordance with the promise of Christ. See the Infallibility page. Whatever else he may be, Pope Francis is still the Vicar of Christ.

Thank you for having the courage as well as the insight to call it as you see it. A recent article of yours involving this administration and the Ebola Virus prompts a similar recognition. No, I don't think you are crazy at all, you are voicing exactly what many currently have come to believe. Unfolding events could well verify that belief.

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