Freakzilla wrote:If it was privately (I beleive it is) owned land, and someone was hunting there without permission...

I don't think dressing up like big foot just to hunt private land is the wisest of ideas. At least someone might hesitate shooting a human that was poaching their land. But a big foot? I am pretty sure all they would see is dollar signs and an Oprah interview as they squeezed the trigger.

No, I was saying it could be a poacher in a dark coat trying to avoid the camera, not dressed as bigfoot.

Paul of Dune was so bad it gave me a seizure that dislocated both of my shoulders and prolapsed my anus.~Pink Snowman

I've had a family of them little bastards living under one of the barnsfor years now. Fucking Mexicans are scared shitless of 'em, won't gonear that barn. I've had many opportunities to hit them over theirlittle pointed scaly heads with a cotton hoe, but they kill rattlesnakes,so I leave 'em be.

they may or not be endangered, I don't know. This cute little girlfrom A&M came out one summer to study them, but they latchedonto her legs and drug her up under the barn, and I never saw heragain. That was kind of a shame, she was a real little cutie, I'dhoped to get her drunk out by the campfire and get me some good,old-fashioned molestin.

Bigfeets, on the other hand, have no social or environmental valuethat I know of, and will in fact masturbate on you every chance theyget. I recommend not gettin more'n 20 or 30 feet near 'em, & wear ajacket.

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Billy Willard says he's on the verge of a major discovery that could change the way humans think about the natural world, not to mention their need for a creature-proof home security system.

Here in Spotsylvania County, in the forests around Lake Anna, Willard claims there have been 14 sightings in the past decade of that most fabled of cryptozoic beasts: Bigfoot.

Or Sasquatch , as the elusive, apelike brute is referred to in more high-minded circles -- and on the side of Willard's blue pickup. The decal on the truck reads "Sasquatch Watch of Virginia," of which Willard is chief pooh-bah (when he's not earning a living installing and removing underground home oil tanks).

Go ahead, call him a loon, a flake, a huckster. He's heard it all. But Willard knows what he knows, which is that three people from this area -- a woman, her husband and their granddaughter -- told him they saw a shaggy, super-size figure on two legs gallivanting across their wooded property.

Last month, Willard led a weeklong expedition to the site, where he installed five motion-sensor cameras that will snap photos if the big galoot wanders by again.

Bigfoot Expert: We Are Close to a Major DiscoveryWillard, 41, says he'd like to lead a tour of the property and introduce the witnesses, really he would. But the woman who says she saw what she believes could have been Bigfoot fears an avalanche of ridicule, which is why Willard is left to begin delivering his version of what happened a few miles away, in the parking lot of a Dairy Queen.

"We believe we may be close to some kind of major discovery," he says. "All the things they would need are here, fresh water, shelter in the woods. The high concentration of sightings tells me they're here."

He interrupts his monologue to answer his cellphone, the ring tone to which is the country tune "People Are Crazy."

Ever since humans began telling stories, they have spun yarns involving life forms that tower above mere mortals, whether it's the giant of "Jack and the Beanstalk" fame or Goliath or Frankenstein. Bigfoot has been a perennial for generations, with hundreds of purported sightings (many of them of supposed footprints), most prevalent in the Pacific Northwest but also popping up in states as disparate as Rhode Island, Illinois and Alabama.

Paul of Dune was so bad it gave me a seizure that dislocated both of my shoulders and prolapsed my anus.~Pink Snowman

After years of studying the UFO phenomena he observed that all the sightings were illogical, crazy, sometimes plainly stupid (like ufo astronauts asking for fertilizer and giving in return oat cookies), witnesses describing the interior of the UFO as comprising of a kitchenette only, and sometimes the reports that are terrorific, and many of them share many things in common with the follkore of elves and demons, and the apparitions of the virgin mary too. So he concluded that the UFOs are not the spacecrafts of alien astronauts but beings coming from this same planet, living in another plane of existence (or the manifestation of a communal human mind).

He is the french ufologist represented by Spielberg in Close Encounters of the Third Kind by the character of Lancombe played by François Truffaut and, his teacher J. Allen Hynek has a cameo in the movie.

It is reported that Vallée asked Speilberg to embrace his non-alien theory but that Spielberg answered him that the people would be confused and that they expected to be entertained with a movie about extraterrestrials.

A commonality of inexplicable experiences across times and places should first be assumed to tell us something about the experiencers—human beings—as they are the known entities, before rushing off to imagine and/or accept theories of otherwise unattested entities.

It's fun to believe in Bigfoot and other queer beasties. I LOVE watching "Monster Quest" and those crazy "UFO Hunters". But I'm not about to even consider the possibility of the existence of any of that without SOME REAL EVIDENCE.

(I've been seeing manifestations of entities myself for nearly half a century now. I call them physical beings. )

cmsahe wrote:all the sightings were illogical, crazy, sometimes plainly stupid (like ufo astronauts asking for fertilizer and giving in return oat cookies), witnesses describing the interior of the UFO as comprising of a kitchenette only

Holy shit, somebody needs to make that movie. "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Collective Unconscious" directed by Michel Gondry, written by Charlie Kaufman, starring Onasander as Dr. Jung. Co-produced by Kevin J. Anderson and Brian Herbert. With Rebecca Moesta as Bigfoot.

That's great, this is the exact opposit of occam's razor - let's take something and apply the most complicated possible explanation.

The most likely thing (not 100% of course, nothing is - but close enough) that explains any UFO sighting, ghost sighting, monster sighting, etc, is as Chig said - the person seeing it having a nice ol' glitch in the brain.

I've seen some weird stuff too, just like everyone else. But let's say someone sees a ghost. People are weakminded, and scared of the idea that their brain might not be functioning normally, so most people will jump to the conclusion that they did actually see a ghost, rather than the conclusion that their brain hiccup'd.

One of those things is more likely than the other (giant orders of magnitude more likely) - and the fact that in situations like this most people jump for the less likely conclusion without any thought should set off alarm bells warning people that they're not properly thinking things in life through.

I don't know that it's really a question of being weak-minded or scared, at least initially, when the false perception occurs. (The weak-mindedness and fear come into play later, when people BELIEVE and no amount of counter-evidence can convince them they were mistaken.) We're accustomed by normal, everyday experience to trust our senses, so when they tell us something is there, we believe them. But we've all had experiences of thinking we see one thing only to realize an instant later that it's actually something else.

And of course sometimes the problem isn't in our sense organs or brains at all, but in the information the environment is presenting us with.

But yeah, a LOT of people are just too gullible. I blame the religious instruction of children. If you're trained at an early age to believe one set of silly ideas, you're pre-conditioned to accept more of them later in life.

SandChigger wrote:I don't know that it's really a question of being weak-minded or scared, at least initially, when the false perception occurs. (The weak-mindedness and fear come into play later, when people BELIEVE and no amount of counter-evidence can convince them they were mistaken.)

Yes, this is exactly what I meant, not that those are involved with the original false perception (nice wording by the way) occurs.

There is this interesting documentary, hosted by Rod Serling, Jacques Vallée and J. Allen Hynek appear from time to time, for me it's tender listening to J. Allen Hynek at one point almost mumbling what I mentioned before .