Meanwhile, according to the Guardian's opponent the Express, there's no doubt that this child would immediately have his infancy confirmed, were he to make his way to the UK. The Express may be a rag, but I know which I'll believe.

Industry insiders have told the Express they often meet migrants posing as children who are permitted to stay in the country because challenging them can put their career at risk.

The revelations came after the arrivals of “child” migrants from Calais - who appeared to be much older than the teenage years they had claimed.

Britain was once again divided over the issue with Conservative MP David Davies suggesting they should be made to undergo dental tests to establish their age.

His comments were met with fury by the British Dental Association (BDA) which said tests were “invasive” – a statement which was backed by the Home Office.

But, speaking to Express Online a social worker who asked not to be named has revealed the REAL struggles faced by those in the industry.

According to the specialist THREE professionals are assigned to the first meeting with a migrant who claims to be a child.

And senior child protection officers are at their wits’ end.

He said: “So a social worker is assigned the case. The social worker attends the assessment and because the asylum seeker is claiming to be under 17 (to come under the children's Act) an appropriate adult is also in attendance and so is an interpreter.

“Usually they enter the room and they see this asylum seeker is well over 17. It is that obvious.

“After they have done the process three times all three social workers have to come to a consensus on the estimated age of the asylum seeker - so let's says all three say this asylum seeker is well over 17 or 18 years old. You would think that would be the end of the process, but not so.

“They tell their managers of their decisions and then the manager tells them ‘If that's your decision then okay but the asylum seeker will now be assigned a solicitor to challenge your opinion and you are likely to be cross examined in court’.

Challenging migrants over their real age could put social workers' career at risk

After this phase of the investigation is complete, if a social worker chooses to challenge the age, they are reportedly met with anger and abuse.

Many, he claims, have received calls calling them “racist” and have had complaints made against them.

Those put in this position have said they “cannot afford” to fight it.

One said: "I just sign and say he's under 17 years because it’s not worth the hassle."

Social workers and child protection experts have called the system “broken” in Britain.

Remember to look up at the stars and not down at your feet. Stephen Hawking

Just ONE year for Kurdish people trafficker smuggling 2,000 illegal migrants to Britain

Three Kurdish men have been sentenced to one to three years in prison for human trafficking

But all three told a court they were just minnows working for a MASSIVE BRITISH people smuggling operation.

A Court of Appeal in Reims, a city in north-eastern France, sentenced one of man – who was said to be the most heavily implicated in the illegal trade – to three years in prison. He has also been barred from re-entering French territory “indefinitely”.

The two other smugglers both received a one-year jail sentence, and, once they are released, will not be able to come back to France for another 10 years.

Aged between 22 and 24, the men were based in and around the now mostly demolished Jungle shanty town in Calais, but received orders from members of a people smuggling ring based in the UK.

The men denied the charges made against them, and said that they had been “used” and manipulated by “highly placed” British ringleaders.

They also said that they had had “no choice” but to comply and execute orders.

The men used vans to smuggle more than 2,000 migrants into the UK

One of the men told the court: “I’m not really a people smuggler. All I wanted was to get a safe passage into the UK.”

“Their claims cannot be taken seriously,” the assistant public prosecutor, Bruno Fayard, said.

In the space of five months, the traffickers helped smuggle anything between 1,500 and 2,000 illegal Jungle immigrants into the UK.

So what happens to these international people smugglers when they are released and expelled from France? Maybe you guessed it?

Who is paying for this one-way ticket to Britain ? Surely not the illegal migrant?

There are still more than hundreds illegal migrants in Calais, and more migrants have left the camp before it was shut down. They are hiding in nearby places, and they all want to stay there and fight their way into England. So it is not over by a long way.

"The Federal Office for Migration and Refugees has registered 2000 asylum seekers using fake passports. Nevertheless they were not punished for it. I also came to Europe with a fake passport.<snip>Fake passports were completely normal in Syria. Anyone who lost their passport could simply buy a new one – also in Turkey.

Passports for Syrians should also be for sale in Europe. The authorities in Greece sold fake passports to Syrians and other migrants to earn some money. Other countries should do the same."

So it looks as though we need biometric methods of determining origin, never mind age. I believe wonders can be done with tooth enamel these days - an ancient dog tooth unearthed at Stonehenge was revealed as having been brought up in Yorkshire. So never mind dental x-rays, out with the drills!https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/10/huffpo-germany-fake-passports-are-not-a-crimeOh, and notice that he mentions Turkey, too. So when Junker takes the visa barriers down, they'll be down for the whole of the Middle East.

Remember to look up at the stars and not down at your feet. Stephen Hawking

And, depressingly, more from Calais. Just a few snippets from a long article:

Standing defiantly in the fields of the French countryside, 18-year-old Rahmat Ahmadi is an angry young man. He hates France, says its people are racist, and he doesn’t want to stay here.‘They lied to us migrants,’ he declares. ‘They promised we would go from the Jungle to a big house in a city. But they dumped us here in a place with no halal meat in the meals, no internet, and where we sleep ten to a bedroom and the kitchen is covered in flies.<snip>‘A French charity worker on board said it would be a big house. Then when we got here the coach disappeared and we ourselves had to start cleaning the place<snip>The lure of the UK was abundantly clear this week when I met Afghans who had been ejected from the Jungle and sent to different locations in France.Astonishingly, all three had reached Britain previously, only to be deported after failing to win asylum. Even more galling is the fact that they had been flown back to Kabul at British taxpayers’ expense. But as soon as they reached their home country, they simply turned round and embarked on the return journey, heading to Calais.<snip>The very existence of the Calais Jungle, which over 15 years grew to become Europe’s biggest migrant camp, is of course proof that Britain seems much more attractive than France to migrants escaping war or poverty in countries such as Afghanistan, Eritrea, Pakistan and the Sudan.But why should this be so?People traffickers tell their victims the UK is a paradise, with generous welfare handouts.It’s a message that has been repeatedly reinforced by the mayor of Calais, Natacha Bouchart, who describes the UK as an ‘El Dorado’, with such lavish benefits that migrants are prepared to die in a clandestine Channel crossing to get their hands on them.This week, the deputy mayor, Philippe Mignonet, also blamed Britain’s generous benefits system for luring migrants to his town.But welfare benefits alone do not explain the discrepancy, for both the UK and France offer housing and free health care to asylum seekers. And France pays a more generous weekly allowance to asylum seekers than Britain (£56.08 a week for a single adult compared with the UK’s basic allowance of £36.95).<snip>Britain is also far more generous in offering asylum to non-EU citizens. In 2014, 31 per cent of claims in the UK were approved, while in France, only 15 per cent got the green light. Why this should be is not clear, but it is certainly the case that migrants appear to be less welcome in France than in Britain.

Ah, here's an explanation of something I hadn't understood: how "Lord Dubs" could force us to take in all these young men of indeterminate age. Now I know:

Staff at the Home Office have been screening the alleged children in order to assess their eligibility for resettlement in Britain either because they have family in the UK, or under the Dubs amendment.

Under the amendment, the government is now committed to offer sanctuary to “unaccompanied minors”. It was defeated in the Commons, as public opinion is fiercely against further migration, but pushed through by the House of Lords.

I.e., MPs were too cowardly to be seen to subject the UK to a further influx, but quite happy to hide behind the coat-tails of the unelected "lords" whom they can over-rule any time they feel they can be bothered. Or, if it suits them, blame.http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/10/29/france-demands-uk-take-1500-calais/EDIT:I forgot to include the lead paragraphs, which tell an all too familiar story:

France has demanded that Britain take in nearly 1,500 “child migrants” staying in Calais, who councils say will cost taxpayers £133,000 per head.The diplomatic row that has broken out over the fate of the alleged minors comes after a huge increase in the number of youths traveling to Calais in recent weeks, as news spread that the UK is taking child migrants in.

Totally predictable, of course.

Remember to look up at the stars and not down at your feet. Stephen Hawking

Further confirmation, as if it were needed, that very few migrants into Europe are refugees:

NGO: Just 13 Per Cent of Migrants in Europe Actually Fleeing WarJust 13.7 per cent of migrants in Europe say they are fleeing war, with most admitting they are economic migrants, a new study by Doctors of the World (MDM) has revealed.The NGO found that the majority of nearly 10,000 migrants they spoke to admitted they moved to Europe for economic reasons. Examining access to healthcare, the report looked at migrants across 30 cities, just under half of whom are staying in Europe illegally.The study, which was published Tuesday in Brussels, discloses that 53.1 per cent of migrants surveyed reported emigrating for economic reasons, 20.5 per cent for political reasons and just 13.7 per cent said they moved to escape war.

Of course, just because they're an "NGO" doesn't mean they're not a bunch of xenophobic fascists, does it? No, but they're not - far from it:

As well as demanding governments of countries in the European Union (EU) grant “full access to [all aspects of] national health systems for all”, the organisation wants Europeans to arrange full transport to the continent for anybody and everybody who wants to migrate.

Noting that “violence on migration routes [to Europe] has been documented”, the report “calls on governments to ensure safe migratory routes to Europe free from violence, for all migrants irrespective of their nationality.”

The study also condemns the Dublin Agreement, arguing that it’s essential migrants be allowed to select the European country in which they reside. The NGO argues that without freedom to make this choice, and without “rapid and active” family reunification, there will be “far-reaching consequences on the wellbeing of migrants’ mental health”.

so, as posted above, only 13% of "refugees" really are. Now if this new Danish evidence applies, no more than 25% of the "children" really are. Does that equate to only 25% of 13% = 4.25% of "refugee children" being what they claim?

No WONDER our politicians banned age tests: Majority of child refugees checked are ADULTSBRITISH ministers are facing serious questions about their decision to ban scientific age tests for 'child' refugees after officials in Denmark revealed THREE QUARTERS of those posing as minors are actually adults.

Meanwhile, even worse figures from Italy. Of last year's landings from the Med, only 2.65% were actually refugees. Of the total 181,000, fully 90,000 vanished without even trying to claim asylum - how many, I wonder, are hanging around Calais now trying to get into the UK?Oh, and less than 5000 were ever deported from Italy.The Northern League party is set to sue the government and other official bodies for letting all this happen.http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/04/24/report-only-2-65-percent-of-immigrants-into-italy-are-refugees/

Remember to look up at the stars and not down at your feet. Stephen Hawking

Refugee charities are paying smugglers to ferry migrants, Libyan official claims Allegation to raise concern that jihadists could be among the smuggled migrants But charities say they are only their to rescue migrants off north African coast

Refugee charities are paying people smugglers to ferry migrants to their rescue boats patrolling off Libya, it was claimed last night.

A senior Libyan coastguard official told The Mail on Sunday he had evidence that aid agencies were stumping up cash for migrants desperate to reach Europe but who cannot afford to pay ruthless traffickers.

Colonel Tarek Shanboor said he had obtained bank details and phone records that proved the charities were making payments to criminal gangs who have put hundreds of thousands of migrants into unseaworthy boats – leading to thousands of deaths each year.

His claim will raise concern because there have long been fears that Islamic extremists could be among the migrants.Col Shanboor said that in a desperate effort to stamp out the smuggling trade once and for all he had resorted to hiring a Tripoli- based militia to patrol the coast with his police force

Charities patrolling off northern Africa claim they are only there to rescue migrants.

But Colonel Shanboor said aid agencies were now encouraging more and more migrants to make the perilous trip. He claimed he had handed evidence of collusion between charities and traffickers to EU border security officials in Brussels, though he refused to go into detail.

Speaking exclusively to the MoS he said: ‘The non-governmental organisations (NGOs) are adding to the crisis by actively encouraging increasing numbers of migrants. Now we have the evidence they are in cahoots with the smugglers. We have evidence the smugglers call the NGOs directly and there are business deals between them.’

Col Shanboor claimed charities were paying up £450 for each migrant’s passage. He believes their motives are well-meaning but misguided.

Col Shanboor’s extraordinary accusation comes just months after an internal EU report revealed charity officials in boats were in direct contact with migrant vessels and even gave them precise directions to find rescue vessels. This year has already seen record numbers of migrants attempting the perilous crossing from Libya to Lampedusa and Sicily, turning Italy into the front line of the crisis.

According to recent reports, Prime minister May has agreed to "fast track" asylum applications of migrants in Calais, and quickly admit any "unaccompanied minors" or people claiming to have family in the UK.

To me this sounds like Macron using migrants as a weapon against the UK and at the same time laughably making France look like some sort of humanitarian paradise.

And May, unbelievably, goes along with it, because she was threatened the Le Touquet agreement being unilaterally scrapped. This would damage French interest as much as British, so only a quite spineless person would give in to such arm twisting.

The result of May's cave-in is that already, after just a few days, a new "jungle" mushrooming in Calais, with well over 200 people having arrived just yesterday, and local charities complaining they cannot cope.

How many fake "minors" will we end up having to take care for, pay for? How many of those will repay the favour with crime?

And how many more migrants will Macron get to risk dangerous crossings into Europe, because of this sudden hope to get free hand-outs in the UK?

This nonsense should be completely stopped. When someone claims to seek asylum from a country considered safe, then that person should be automatically get a refusal.

It is laughable that we allow the French who left the migrants in muddy fields even in winter to lecture us how we should be "more humane" and more "compassionate".

Why should any alleged "minor" have an automatic right to live here? Sure if his parents are already here, that is different. But otherwise, are there no child care facilities in France?

And if we take pretty much anyone who asks who arrives from Calais, why not also from everywhere else?

And the money for the care for all these people has to come from somewhere? Are we putting up taxes? Reduce benefit and pensions? And we have a housing crisis in London and many other cities in the UK. Council flats or affordable housing association flats are gold dust. What shall we tell the local people if they cannot get a place to live, but these people can?

I have a very nice new IKEA wardrobe in my bedroom. I got t for free. How? I saw an Afghan refugee living opposite throw it out. I asked him what was wrong with it. He said nothing, but given all he suffered it's not good enough. He wanted a "proper" wardrobe made from oak. I asked him if could have this one then, and said yes. With some difficulties (I have a pace maker) I got it up the stairs, a Chinese lady I know helped me.

According to the Guardian, Corbyn has promised to build or confiscate 4,000 houses for the homeless, the day he takes power. By the time they're ready, they'll need thousands more because they'll have been given to the incomers from Calais. May and Corbyn - an unlikely and unholy alliance.

Remember to look up at the stars and not down at your feet. Stephen Hawking

Fernando wrote:According to the Guardian, Corbyn has promised to build or confiscate 4,000 houses for the homeless, the day he takes power. By the time they're ready, they'll need thousands more because they'll have been given to the incomers from Calais. May and Corbyn - an unlikely and unholy alliance.

Now in Europe inter-country immigration is common and inter-national marriages are also quite common perhaps due to shared cultural heritage and same cultural ethos.In India too ,I have no qualms absolutely with people of other ethnicities or languages migrating to other regions only until such a situation does not develop whereby the locals are made a minority in their own areas.Perhaps the Europeans also need not bother until such a threshold is reached.Of course I am bitter against North Indians because instead of just coming as any other people,they have pitted Telugu people against Telugu people as part of deliberate divide and rule policy,terrorised Telugu people from other regions in reaping their investments in Hyderabad and then are coming to cheaply buy off those distress sale properties.Completely nasty.Much similar to the shenaningans/ulterior nefarious designs that they show in unending soap operas of the sub-continent.

Llinguistically Dravidian states of India watered by non-perennial rivers and with far greater chances of famine are taxed 2 to 3 times more than other states.Yet B.J.P leaders maintain that they treat all states equally.Elections with E.V.Ms=>ample scope for tampering,so ballot papers are a must

Nosuperstition wrote:In India too ,I have no qualms absolutely with people of other ethnicities or languages migrating to other regions only until such a situation does not develop whereby the locals are made a minority in their own areas.Perhaps the Europeans also need not bother until such a threshold is reached.

By the time such a threshold is reached, it is too late. If it is reasonable to resist it then, it's reasonable to resist its getting that far.No to mention that "local areas" often reach that state long before a country as a whole does.

Remember to look up at the stars and not down at your feet. Stephen Hawking

Nosuperstition wrote:In India too ,I have no qualms absolutely with people of other ethnicities or languages migrating to other regions only until such a situation does not develop whereby the locals are made a minority in their own areas.Perhaps the Europeans also need not bother until such a threshold is reached.

By the time such a threshold is reached, it is too late. If it is reasonable to resist it then, it's reasonable to resist its getting that far.No to mention that "local areas" often reach that state long before a country as a whole does.

Nepostism of South Indians(mostly of Tamils and Malayalees) in Bombay/Mumbai in India was met with fierce physical violence by Marathis under Mr.Bal Thackeray.So local and non-local feelings are only natural and would erupt any moment when the economy goes into a bad shape.

Llinguistically Dravidian states of India watered by non-perennial rivers and with far greater chances of famine are taxed 2 to 3 times more than other states.Yet B.J.P leaders maintain that they treat all states equally.Elections with E.V.Ms=>ample scope for tampering,so ballot papers are a must

Nosuperstition wrote:In India too ,I have no qualms absolutely with people of other ethnicities or languages migrating to other regions only until such a situation does not develop whereby the locals are made a minority in their own areas.Perhaps the Europeans also need not bother until such a threshold is reached.

By the time such a threshold is reached, it is too late. If it is reasonable to resist it then, it's reasonable to resist its getting that far.No to mention that "local areas" often reach that state long before a country as a whole does.

That is a problem if the "locals" refuse to mingle with others and become a melting pot and instead behave with pack mentality.Else it is not of such a serious concern.

Llinguistically Dravidian states of India watered by non-perennial rivers and with far greater chances of famine are taxed 2 to 3 times more than other states.Yet B.J.P leaders maintain that they treat all states equally.Elections with E.V.Ms=>ample scope for tampering,so ballot papers are a must

I don't know about you, I am a little weary about "mingling" with guys carrying iron bars of machetes. However, many local people, and even people from the UK, went to see them and brought them food, clothing and blankets. They were not always gratefully received.

It is strange that you accuse the French local people of a "pack mentality", when that description fits rather a lot better to those who create road blocks and force themselves into lorries.

manfred wrote:I don't know about you, I am a little weary about "mingling" with guys carrying iron bars of machetes. However, many local people, and even people from the UK, went to see them and brought them food, clothing and blankets. They were not always gratefully received.

It is strange that you accuse the French local people of a "pack mentality", when that description fits rather a lot better to those who create road blocks and force themselves into lorries.

I did not mean real locals as locals when I used that word.Of course locals would in general be thinking in terms of even more money to drink and/or dance or to get even better education or amass even greater wealth for their children if the migrants had not come.

Llinguistically Dravidian states of India watered by non-perennial rivers and with far greater chances of famine are taxed 2 to 3 times more than other states.Yet B.J.P leaders maintain that they treat all states equally.Elections with E.V.Ms=>ample scope for tampering,so ballot papers are a must