If you ask me its all a load of "who cares"... Anything to get rid of him. The establishment/leftist media/librals are desperate to do anything to remove the embarassing orange imbecile. No matter how obscure, irrelivant, made up, or whatever. And they may succeed. Who knows. They still dont get that he won the vote, no matter how retarded or ignorant he is. Because they know they are right, the basket of deplorables are idiots right?

Burgerman wrote:Heres one for all the socialists, that think getting free money from those with more than they have, is a real thing. Seems they are not very bright!

LOL you with your buzzwords...Socialism, Socialists, Capitalism, Capitalists, Yada Yada Yada, and everything in between is really meaningless.

Just for a FYI!There is free money to be had. Here in the USA those with the most money take from the many that have the least money. Also those moneyed takers hold themselves as conservative. The process is known as "externalization." As in "corporate externalization" or "externalization of expenses"...look it up.

Here in the USA GREED is GLORIFIED. The TOP 0.25% live off the backs of the WORKING MIDDLE CLASS.

Just for a FYI!There is free money to be had. Here in the USA those with the most money take from the many that have the least money.

Really. Where did that money come from? You still think thers some pie dont you?

Also those moneyed takers hold themselves as conservative. The process is known as "externalization." As in "corporate externalization" or "externalization of expenses"...look it up.

I did. Wikipedia:

Fundamentally, cost externalization occurs when a company transfers some of its moral responsibilities as costs to the community directly or as degradation to the environment. For example, railroads and airlines transfer the cost of fuel, noise, and terminal infrastructure to the community. Airlines and auto manufacturers transfer the cost of degraded air quality to the community and the environment.

So then. The COMMUNITY choose cheaper plane tickets, or drive an affordable automobile full of cheap fuel. And they do this because the true cost, if paid by the car or fuel manufacturer, or aircraft manufacturer or airline to correct this situation means either way higher costs, or in extreme circumstances almost no cars or planes at all. Only the true rich could afford it. So society has a choice! A 5000 dollar plane ticket. Or a 50 dollar one. Which do you suppose the COMMUNITY would choose and why?

It would not change profit much, if laws were passed to prevent these noise or pollution issues by the community. Thats always the same, and caused by the law of supply and demand. All it would do is reduce the standards of living for everyone, ESPECIALLY the poor, as it will increase to price of ALL goods due to restricted supply or restricted transport, and esp flights and cars! So the COMMUNITY allows, in fact NEEDS this because its better for them! Which is why we dont stop it.

The leader in cost externalization is the pro sports industry. Nothing to do with pollution or cheaper tickets. It's just getting the taxpayer to foot the largest portions of their business expense. That is the "Sport of Kings" here in the USA. They don't pay for the cost of the stadiums the tax payer does. They don't provide training of the athlete the schools do at taxpayer expense. The don't even pay for ads because their games are reported as news the same as weather.

Subsidize those Kings and give em a tax break, they're conservatives!

Here in the USA GREED is GLORIFIED. The TOP 0.25% live off the backs of the WORKING MIDDLE CLASS.

The leader in cost externalization is the pro sports industry. Nothing to do with pollution or cheaper tickets. It's just getting the taxpayer to foot the largest portions of their business expense.

Thats called SOCIALISM!!! The opposite to a conservative. TAXATION is socialist. Using that money for the stadium, is also socialism. Its certainly not FREE TRADE. Its centralised control.

That is the "Sport of Kings" here in the USA. They don't pay for the cost of the stadiums the tax payer does.

Thats called SOCIALISM!!! The opposite to a conservative. Again... In a free trade non distorted market, the clubs would need to buy and pay for their own stadiums, based on market forces.

They don't provide training of the athlete the schools do at taxpayer expense.

More taxation, to pay for stuff. Socialism 101. And thats because you voted for that. The people voted to train athletes with public money. Socialism!!! Certainly not free trade is it.

The don't even pay for ads because their games are reported as news the same as weather.

By the left wing socalist media? The very ones that hate all the conservatives and especially trump? Of course! And because they are providing something that is of interest to the masses. Thats the job of the news.

Subsidize those Kings and give em a tax break, they're conservatives!

Sounds like you are still highly confused.First of all, those games happen because the (dumb) masses want them. Pay for them, and buy all their shirts, tickets, ice cremes, and absorb all the advertising. If there was no profit in it they wouldnt exist. The people WANT IT to exist. They choose with their dollars. And it employs armies of builders, gardeners, trainers, accountants, players, medical people, insurers, and manufacturers of all the products they sell directly, and of all their advertisers. The pie grows bigger. So the city subsidising the training, or the stadium may well actually help the economy as a whole. Why do you resent business?

And what exactly would you call taxation by government of everybody to then spend it on a stadium? Thats the very definition of socialism.

Lets try and keep it simple. FREE TRADE, with prices, property, business, employment, all controlled ONLY by market forces, is capitalism. So if the football was interesting to the people they would pay to go to watch. The football business would borrow money to buy a stadium. And to train its athletes. The tickets would obviously cost more. But then you wouldnt need to pay as much tax... This way your tickets would be very expensive still, since all those NOT INTERESTED in football would not have had to be taxed to pay for it. They can spend their money more wisely instead, and invest it, buy property, start their OWN businesses etc. Thats the CAPITALIST way.

But when I point out the money goes to the Kings.

Define kings. The people running that business? Thats why they are doing it. If there was no money in it, either by earning it in a purely capitalistic way with no government interference, or by your stupid socialist taxation/government built stadium, then they wouldnt bother would they!!!

You say that's business and ask me why I resent business.

Yes. Why do you?

Now if I showed you where taxes were only used to provide for health, education and infrastructure you would call that socialism too.

Yes I would. Its the definition of socialism. Its why our NHS is so crap, why I have to buy antibiotics illegally overseas for eg. Because it wastes more money than it uses. And because its run by people that get paid and keep the job no matter how useless they are or how little they do. Its why I have 3 patient hoists that I told them I did not need or want! Complete with maintainance contracts! They literally dont have a clue what they are doing. Theres many more paper pushers than actual indians. Most of the budget is just wasted. Theres a few threads on here describing exactly this at the moment.

And we do need some socialism in society. The secret is to keep it SMALL and only interfere where we WANT it to. Government always grows, gets more and more involved, bigger and bigger, more and more legislation, rules, taxation to pay for everything and anything and starts trying to control everything. A few governments later and EVERYTHING is micromanaged and it becomes impossible to operate a business or employ someone because of al the rules and regulations. Including business. And thats where the rot starts. A governments job should be to protect us, our property and our freedom to trade and employ freely and build businesses and anything else we want. With a safety net for the unfortunate, but not the lazy. And thats ALL it should do. And it should not tax the rich more than the rest to prop up you.

And remember that they have to SPEND this money (creating jobs, and incomes) or invest it, (meaning business can grow to employ the also-rans that make up the bottom 70 percent). And then add up all the taxes their businesses, and emplorees paid too. If all the high earners decide to leave, and looking at this graph, I wouldnt be surprised, you are screwed!!!

You just dont get exactly how much you need these people. And they already pay unbelievable amounts of tax. Want more for yourself? Then do what they do. Not everybody is equal. Get over it.

I tghink he is a moron with an IQ around room temperature, and an attention span of a newt. He hasnt a clue what he is doing. But he has got some things right. But what an embarassement. Having said all that, if it was a choice between socialists, and trump, I would have no choice but to vote for him. Not be cause he was good but because the alternative is worse.

Again, how is it possible to have a choice of 330 million candidates to choose from and end up with a socialist or a retard with serious behavioural and mental issues to choose from?

The most rediculously out of touch people in the world are actors, TV stars etc. These are the least likely to have any idea about anything, esp compared to hard working members of the community or local business people etc.