Thankfully, the Bible cannot be taught in public schools. After all, Jesus Christ was a socialist and teaching the Bible in school might be an attempt to spread a socialist agenda!

Indeed. With one HUGE difference. He taught us to be kind to each other of our own free will. Not to have Big Brother FORCE us to be charitable. We should be good to each other beacause its the right thing to do and not because there is a gun to my head if I am not.

Its the same line of thought as the "Christians" who try to use FEAR to lead people to Christ. "Believe in Him or you going to ROT IN HELL!!!"

But I will give you an "atta girl" for the try.

Romans 8:28 ESV
"And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose."

God is perfect. Mankind is far from it. Thus, due to our sinful nature, we rarely adhere to His Commandments. That does not mean we should not try.

Now, I know what you might want to say.... But I also believe God wants us to adhere to his Commandments by free choice.

I am ashamed for and embarrassed by people who think that a message to stay in school, work hard, take responsibility for your education espouses socialism.

Oh, if it that was the only message... But, as usual, you seem to omit the necessary context. Recall the original version of his idea, per the letter Arne Duncan had sent to schools, had in part a request to "write papers where the students could come up with ideas on how to help the President."

THAT is typical "progressive" indoctrination.

I guess by that measure, when Bush II read a book about a goat to school children he was espousing beastiality.

Again, had you not omitted the necessary context, you could be correct here.

What fools...what morons!

There ya go! THATS the ES we know and love.

Romans 8:28 ESV
"And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose."

Whose opinion is it that matters so much that you are embarrassed before them?

I am not only embarrassed before people whose opinion matters "so much" to me. I am also embarrassed before people whose opinion does not matter much to me.

I'm embarrassed by the petty and mean-spiritied behavior that is being exhibited.

Name calling.

People who can't find anything better to complain about than the president of the United States encouraging kids to get an education.

When I was in school we had to watch the State of the Union Address and discuss it. I don't remember anyone getting excited about that. No parents pulled their kids out of school because they did not like the current president!

I'm willing to bet you that a whole lot of presidents...and presidents' wives have visited schools and not created such angst - even though distracting them from reading, writing and arithmetic!

But putting that aside. It is the name calling...Nazi...Socialist... Communist...It is sickening.

Just as some people feel the need to apologize on behalf of the state in which they live...I feel the need to apologize for the behavior of some of my fellow countrymen.

Whose opinion is it that matters so much that you are embarrassed before them?

There's a difference between asking for people to be "social" and forcing people to do it.

As PS alluded to in his posts.

We are not all perfect, we do what we can, the best as we can while living. The sin is in believing that someone is perfect and never having the huevos to look 'into' the person who tells you they are perfect.

I wonder how the prez would do if he had to confront all the lies and other BS that surrounds him??

Like going to church and being unconcious for 15-20 years?
Like dodging questions about sumbag friends?
Or lying to the public by promising all kinds of good crap then backing down.
(here you can pretty much blame all politicians-but uneasy is the head that wears the crown?)

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What about the FW Chucky Rangel, and the Green Job Czar- both those FAs talk their racist BS - when they feel the heat of people figuring out what sumbags, liars and DBs they are, they fall back on the favorite lines that blame everything on people who are lighter in skin than they are.

A fave talk show host used to say, We are all black on the inside.

Possibly the worst sin that people have committed is to fall under the spell of the false prophet they elected to office.

Vanity, It really sucks when you think that way, then find out that foot of the god you have worshipping at has the same dog crap that everyone before him stepped into.

If you can walk on water or levitate, you don't have that problem.

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The secret of life is nothing at all
-faith hill

I'm just an animal looking for a home
and share the same space for a minute or two
and you love me 'til my heart stops....
-talking heads

I am not only embarrassed berore people whose opinion matters "so much" to me. I am also embarrassed before people whose opinion does not matter much to me.

I'm embarrassed by the petty and mean-spiritied behavior that is being exhibited.

Name calling.

People who can't find anything better to complain about than the president of the United States encouraging kids to get an education.

When I was in school we had to watch the State of the Union Address and discuss it. I don't remember anyone getting excited about that. No parents pulled their kids out of school because they did not like the current president!

I'm willing to bet you that a whole lot of presidents...and presidents' wives have visited schools and not created such angst - even though distracting them from reading, writing and arithmetic!

But putting that aside. It is the name calling...Nazi...Socialist... Communist...It is sickening.

Just as some people feel the need to apologize on behalf of the state in which they live...I feel the need to apologize for the behavior of some of my fellow countrymen.

Ok, now I really don't understand. If there are people whose opinion doesn't matter to you, how can you be embarrassed then? For ex.: if my child behaved badly in public, I couldn't be embarrassed for him, that's impossible and he's obviously not embarrassed or he'd discontinue the behavior. I could only be embarrassed for myself in the presence of others because of my apparent lack of disciplinary skills. If no one was there to observe my child's obnoxious behavior, I couldn't be embarrassed. So when you say that you're embarrassed, who is it exactly that is embarrassing you? You say that you don't like name calling; I don't like it either. You say that you're disgusted by it; so am I. However, I'm not embarrassed because I don't name call. Disgusted, absolutely. Embarrassed, impossible. And to whom are you apologizing?

I guess some people just think if they keep saying socialist...socialist...socialist it will become true.

What is missing from this is any....well socialism.

I don't worship at anybody's feet or anything else.

I just don't get how "get an education" becomes socialism.

This is what I posted in another thread:

Originally Posted by Medusa

People should be able to disagree w/Obama and to protest and/or keep their kids home from school that day w/out being villified. He should address school kids if he so desires as other presidents before him have done. However, "Teachers are also given guidance to tell students to "build background knowledge about the president of the United States by reading books about presidents and Barack Obama."" This is unnecessary. If he wants to do a PSA, sure, why not? To "give teachers guidance" is out of his realm and he should stay out.

If I had a son who was ill-behaved I would be embarrassed whether I knew the people who witnessed the ill-behavior or not, whether I respected the opinion of the people or not...of even if there were any others who witnessed it. It is the behavior that embarrasses me.

People who can't find anything better to complain about than the president of the United States.

We just got done with 8 years of this, and you object to it now?

Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

When I was in school we had to watch the State of the Union Address and discuss it. I don't remember anyone getting excited about that. No parents pulled their kids out of school because they did not like the current president!

You also didnt get a lesson plan from the Whitehouse.

Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

I'm willing to bet you that a whole lot of presidents...and presidents' wives have visited schools and not created such angst - even though distracting them from reading, writing and arithmetic!

Because they were special and rare occasions, I bet you are right.

Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

But putting that aside. It is the name calling...Nazi...Socialist... Communist...It is sickening.

I bet you werent sickened by those names over the last 8 years.

Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

Just as some people feel the need to apologize on behalf of the state in which they live...I feel the need to apologize for the behavior of some of my fellow countrymen.