OK. Now we're getting somewhere. I think I see where you're coming from.

This is hilarious... being analyzed with someone who threatens to fight someone on the internet then wraps it in the veil of a joke with his "opponent" doesn't reciprocate the e-thug speak.

I'm afraid whatever categorization you're trying to put me into won't fit, especially a "gamer". Most nights in highschool I didnt get home till at least after 10, most nights midnight, so I'm afraid it's back to the drawing board for you.

This is hilarious... being analyzed with someone who threatens to fight someone on the internet then wraps it in the veil of a joke with his "opponent" doesn't reciprocate the e-thug speak.

I'm afraid whatever categorization you're trying to put me into won't fit, especially a "gamer". Most nights in highschool I didnt get home till at least after 10, most nights midnight, so I'm afraid it's back to the drawing board for you.

I also don't buy hip-hop culture argument. I believe there are players who are white that don't participate in hip hop culture that can be problems as well. What about Jeremy Shockey? Bill Romanowski?

Most teams would kill for a "problem" like Romanowski. Let's see, most consecutive games played by a linebacker, 4 Super Bowl rings, and almost every player in the NFL was and probably still is, afraid of him. I'm a Lions fan, and we would have killed for a "problem" like that.

There have always been poor people making new music, and the musical forms that emerged from those economically disadvantaged 'hoods never came near rap in terms of celebrating violence embracing self-defeating anitsocial behavior.

Hahahahahaahaha...

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Lee Hooker

I had a friend one time
Least I thought I did
He come to me
Said, 'Johnny?'
Said, 'What man?'
'I'm outdoor'
I say, 'Yeah?'

I taken the cat in
Get him a place to stay
And I found out
He goin' 'round town
Tellin' ev'rybody that he
He got my wife

Then I gets mad
I goes to the cat
Like a good guy should
I said, 'Look man
'I'm gonna warn, you just one time'
Next time I warn you'
'I'm gonna use my gun'

'Cause I'm mad, I'm bad, like Jesse James

I'm so mad, I'm so mad.
I'm gonna ruin you this mornin'.
I've got three boys
Do my dirty work
Now, you don't see me
I'm the big boss
I do the payin' off
After they take care of you

In their on way
They may shoot you
They may cut you.
They may drown you
I just don't know
I don't care
Long as they take care of you

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Nighthawk

I went down to Eli
To get my pistol out a barn
When I got back home
My woman had gone

Yeah, gonna murder my baby
If she don't stop cheatin' and lyin' -gonna put a hurtin' on her
Well, I'd rather be in penitentiary
Than to be worried outta my mind

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Originally Posted by romafan

Calcio is a reflection of the ongoing, unacknowledged problems in Italian inner cities. As far as ruining football goes, I don't really understand that argument because the evolution of football is a perpetual process of "dishonorable tactics" and "violent antics." The Mayans "ruined" the sports predecessor, and in turn that violence was brought to England and "ruined" as football, giving us present day Calcio.

Also, who gives a shit what kind of personal lives professional athletes lead? These are people who get paid millions of dollars for kicking a piece of inflated leather around a patch of grass. If people consider them role models the problem is with those people, not the athletes themselves.

That right there is some razor-sharp satire. I think we have the next Vonnegut on our hands.

Also, as Violinist points out, I should've said blues rather than jazz regarding misogyny. As far as Wagner goes, biographers do debate the exact nature of his personal beliefs, but it's clear that a lot of his work is concerned with the creation/synthesis of a fairly supremacist mythology for the German people.