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ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.comTue, 03 Mar 2015 19:00:54 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: mustangbrykhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/16/greg-littles-release-leaves-browns-with-one-player-left-from-julio-jones-trade/#comment-3370892
Mon, 19 May 2014 13:24:58 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3370892Taylor is a borderline all-pro DT. jones is borderline walking injury. I actually would still do this trade over, taylor a solid starter jones a solid starter. we have pleny of chances with the other guys just didnt pan out as planned. Really the browns made out just because the guys are not on the team any more doesnt mean they were not starters. Weeden was a starting qb on a bad team. Greg Little Starting WR on a bad team. So realistically Browns won on the trade short term. long term who know Jones might be done after this year. Taylor might make the pro bowl this year. Can’t compare a DT to a WR differnt animals. Taylor is a game changer on the defense i can tell you that.
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Sun, 18 May 2014 05:18:35 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3369505LOL at these posts. Anybody that say ATL didnt get the best of this trade is borderline slow. Jones is a superstar and would start for any team in the NFL. It’s like saying the niners lost out in the Jerry Rice trade…#borderlineslow
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Sat, 17 May 2014 04:43:33 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3368407For all the sour grapes I’m reading, I know I would like to have Julio Jones opposite Josh Gordon, especially now!

I see the trade as a wash. Atlanta got Jones and we got Taylor. Shake hands and move on.

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Sat, 17 May 2014 03:33:41 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3368368julio jones isnt even the best reciever on atlantas roster
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Sat, 17 May 2014 02:29:16 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3368310As usual the Browns screwed up yet another trade, but i called that the moment they traded down, just like they screwed up bypassing Sammy Watkins, for a CB that cant tackle.

This is exactly why they have lost 10 or more games 6 straight years, soon to be 7. Their drafting is horrible, thats why they suck every year. Its pretty simple, you draft horrible players, you wont win games. Theres no curse, no jinx, its called horrible drafting and decision making

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Fri, 16 May 2014 23:57:35 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3368091Actually the Browns have done a lot more with the picks than they ever would have done with Jones. Taylor is a GREAT pickup who will probably be on the team a long time. Trent Richardson wasn’t a bust till he put on the blue and white uniform and that pick was used to sell more jerseys and tickets than Julio Jones ever could with Johnny “whatever nickname he has this week here”.

On top of that there’s that one guy they took instead the next year…what was his name? Josh something. I heard he was a pretty good receiver.

It would be different if the Browns did something like Trade Brett Favre to the Packers just to never see another player anywhere near his talent on their team in 20+ years but they got a just as if not more talented receiver in the very next draft and those picks are STILL paying off for them. No harm no foul. I’m pretty sure Browns fans even with Gordons suspensions aren’t wishing for a redo. Re post this article if Manziel becomes a bust (though at this rate even if he does the Browns will still find someone to give them 2 more first rounders for him, Maybe Kevin Costner is their GM.)

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Fri, 16 May 2014 23:36:36 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3368061Classis example of a blockbuster trade that wound up benefiting neither team. Jones has not produced consistently, and the picks the Falcons gave up have seriously compromised their depth… which came home to roost big-time last season. The Browns, on the other hand, squandered their bounty and arguably are no better of a team today than they were before the trade was done.

Sometimes you best move is the one you don’t make.

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Fri, 16 May 2014 23:12:32 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3368017I get bashing Holmgren, but not so much Heckert. Holmgren said he sat Heckert down and told him what they’d give up to get Richardson. He also was behind McCoy and Weeden. Granted, Heckert had duds (Marecic, Little, Hardesty), but 2 were injury related (Marecic: multiple concussions; Hardesty: knee–though it didn’t take a mystic to see it coming). Mistakes aside, in 3 years as GM, Heckert did draft some solid players: Haden, Ward, Cameron, Gordon, Taylor, Gipson, Skrine, Winn, Hughes, JMJ (won appreciable playing time with 11-5 Chiefs), Wade (Saints), Pinkston. 3 drafts (plus supplemental)–4 Pro Bowlers… not that bad, and had Holmgren not interfered, could’ve been better. Personally, I thought Heckert was the best Browns GM since reinstatement. Not saying much, I know, and hopefully Farmer will be even better, but given that we have a lot of Heckert players on our roster, seems senseless to bash his misses without crediting his hits, as there isn’t a GM alive who doesn’t miss.

My only concern with the current regime is that they’re too trade-up happy… using mid to late round picks merely as pawns to make incremental jumps in earlier rounds; I suspect some of it comes from giving non-GMs the latitude to make GM decisions. Coaches tend to fall in love with players (think Ditka & Ricky Williams), so to my mind, giving them undue influence over the draft process can be dangerous. I get moving up for a QB, but much as I love Gilbert & West, A. They may well have still been there if we stood pat, and B. There were other very good CBs (Dennard, Fuller, Verrett, Roby), and other solid RBs (Carey, Martin, Seastrunk, Williams, Johnson) still on the board. When you don’t have those late round picks, you have no cushion if an early pick flops. Hopefully Gilbert and West become perennial Pro Bowlers, but seems most successful teams don’t get there by using late round picks as bargaining chips. They get there by turning 4th-6th rounders into Pro Bowlers.

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Fri, 16 May 2014 22:46:55 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3367958Your argument is invalid. Phil Tayler > Julio Jones #beast mode
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Fri, 16 May 2014 22:42:48 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3367944I guess next time, the Browns will be wiser and just take the star WR at the top of their draft board. Seems like they learned their less…wait, what did you say? They traded Sammy Watkins for a 2015 pick?
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Fri, 16 May 2014 22:36:16 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3367925I have faith in Farmer. Only a moron would think the Browns drafted well over the last 5 years, so no news there. Farmer reminds me a lot of our own former tight end Ozzie Newsome with his demeanor, patience and a principled approach. Time will tell, but I think we need to give him a chance and not assume he will be bad just because those before him were. We don’t even know who the Browns will take with the #1 and #4 picks next year, so way too early to make any judgements on this years trade down.
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Fri, 16 May 2014 20:50:05 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3367620Factory of Sadness manufactures another combustible lemon.
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Fri, 16 May 2014 20:47:49 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3367612The trade was a wash, Phil Taylor is a quality guy who controls the middle of the like like a beast, Julio Jones is a good receiver, but not great.

When the Browns play the Falcons Taylor will be a force in the middle and Joe Haden will keep Jones under control.

If the stooges hadn’t wasted those picks the Browns would be way a head.

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Fri, 16 May 2014 20:30:45 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3367585look on the bright side, at least you didn’t overpay for your avg QB, and you won’t be negotiating a contract with your choke-artist QB, like your afcn brethren did. I predict a solid 2nd place finish in the afcn.

Just don’t start manzier on Wk 1, dude will get wrecked.

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Fri, 16 May 2014 19:29:40 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3367441Browns have always Ben terrible at drafting. Regimes change ….. Same old clowns.
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Fri, 16 May 2014 18:51:21 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3367318Who would you rather have Josh Gordon or Julio Jones? Gordon would have never been draft, if Jones was on the roster. Of course this would have been a much better post a week ago…
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Fri, 16 May 2014 18:38:14 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3367263Phil Taylor is a solid player though.
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Fri, 16 May 2014 18:32:39 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3367248True draft analystis would only compare Atlanta’s Julio Jones’ selection to that of whom ATLANTA would have drafted had they stayed with all picks. Not whom another team drafts…
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Fri, 16 May 2014 18:23:16 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3367228Lots of picks, little production.
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Fri, 16 May 2014 18:11:04 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3367190Julio Jones has a foot full of screws and I saw an NFL draft special last night showing Sammy Watkins having his wig busted like a woman… Browns made the right move passing on Watkins. Seems like a high maintenance diva in the making… (realize they (receivers) all are to a degree…)
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Fri, 16 May 2014 18:11:00 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3367189This shows why the Bills were smart to get the blue chip player. One player can make a big difference than a few role guys
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Fri, 16 May 2014 18:10:26 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3367186Umm Marecic never signed with SF
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Fri, 16 May 2014 18:02:37 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3367163Sammy Watkins > Julio Jones

Come on Cleveland, when you have an elite receiver (with no off field issues) just sitting there you have to take him.

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Fri, 16 May 2014 17:54:41 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3367136I LOVE articles like this. I would love to see more trades analyzed.

The Falcons are merely 27-21 since this trade, and not a dominant team even in their own division. Their post-season success has been elusive, to say the least.

In my opinion, both teams have blown it so far.

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Fri, 16 May 2014 17:53:46 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3367132And people think Buffalo gave up a lot?

Right.

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Fri, 16 May 2014 17:52:08 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3367129The Browns have begun to turn things around. Getting rid of Little was a good move for them.

Steelers and Ravens on the decline. Cleveland has a chance in their division.

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Fri, 16 May 2014 17:51:27 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3367125But… But… But… the charts and algorithms and studies show its always better to trade down! Nobody knew Julio would be a star its just a crapshoot! NOT!
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Fri, 16 May 2014 17:42:33 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3367093How long before we review the Cutler-Orton trade?
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Fri, 16 May 2014 17:41:39 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3367089Atlanta is a huge winner here, amazing way to waste picks. Just wait till Sammie Watkins starts tearing it up …..
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Fri, 16 May 2014 17:38:10 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2260151#comment-3367079And the thought of Holmgren being a GM elsewhere just blown out of the water. Talk about living off a HoF QB (Farve) & little else to show as a coach or GM. Made him a fortune.
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