Colts Sign CB Acker

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What's the problem? If he sucks, then he won't be on the team. Simple as that.

If he makes the team, consider that a) it means he's one of the best 5 cornerbacks on the roster and b) the professionals evaluating him who, each one of them, are more knowledgable than any 20 people combined on this message board are and who's livelihoods depend on making educated evaluations, have determined he's good enough to warrant a roster spot.

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Again; cheap and depth.... still no play makers or difference makers on either side of the ball. Not much left out there now and certainly can't get many, if any, immediate ones in the draft. Not sure what good a big amount of cap space will do the Colts. Don't care if it is only April, not like these type of players are suddenly coming available in the summer..... may take 2 or 3 drafts at best... meanwhile Colts stock pile cheap, depth players to fill the roster and sit on 2nd most cap space....

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So in his 3 years as a starter, his last two in college and redshirt freshman year in the NFL he averaged 50 tackles, 8 pbu and 3 ints.....but everyone is poo pooing on him because he was a depth piece in KC when playing behind established corners on an established defense of a solid playoff team versus the 49ers....?

I'd say those three years were rather productive and perhaps he's due for a Nick Harper or Rashaan Melvin breakout.....?

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So in his 3 years as a starter, his last two in college and redshirt freshman year in the NFL he averaged 50 tackles, 8 pbu and 3 ints.....but everyone is poo pooing on him because he was a depth piece in KC when playing behind established corners on an established defense of a solid playoff team versus the 49ers....?

I'd say those three years were rather productive and perhaps he's due for a Nick Harper or Rashaan Melvin breakout.....?

Your optimism is getting annoying on here(j/k)...everyone that isn't signed in the first couple of days in Free Agency is a "Camp Body"...please get with the program

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Ballard isn't going to spend a dime until he is certain of Lucks future just my 2cents. Be ready for another year of mediocrity. I really think he should have at least got one quality veteran lineman though, I'm done with Irsay if Luck gets hurt do to our Oline play. Maybe no lineman wanted to come here.

Luck's future has nothing to do with Ballard spending money.

How many times do you have to read Ballard said the Colts are not about one player? That includes Luck.

Ballard said from day one he was going to build this team through the draft. What about that is hard to understand?

Ballard has done exactly what he said he was going to do and he hasn't done something he said he wasn't going to do.

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Slausen was a immediate upgrade over anyone we already had not named Castonzo, Kelly or Mewhort, so I’m not too sure what you’re on about there. Another decent oline pick in the draft and I feel like we’ve vastly improved over anything Luck has fully had at any point so far. Also, I’m fairly certain Ballard and Luck are both sure of Luck’s future, otherwise we wouldn’t have traded down and picked up more 2nd round picks, nor would we be discussing trading down again.

Yeah but he is a back up player, pretty much on any roster. I understand we need depth. But we need some real talent up front. I hope your right about Lucks, I just don't see it that way yet. If they know Luck is fully ready, then Ballard dropped the ball getting a couple quality free agents. If luck is ready and the promising young talent we have on Defense (Hooker, Wilson, why we let melvin walk i dont understand)we could be competive again with a few veteran aquisitions. When you lose Hankins the 5th best DT against run last year your best acuired free agent is Ebron you dropping the ball in my opinion. All we are doing is signing garbage players no one else wants and calling it competition, and losing half of the few talented players we need. They say Hankins doesn't fit scheme but I don't buy it, he wanted out. What's that say about the what we're building

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Yeah but he is a back up player, pretty much on any roster. I understand we need depth. But we need some real talent up front. I hope your right about Lucks, I just don't see it that way yet. If they know Luck is fully ready, then Ballard dropped the ball getting a couple quality free agents. If luck is ready and the promising young talent we have on Defense (Hooker, Wilson, why we let melvin walk i dont understand)we could be competive again with a few veteran aquisitions. When you lose Hankins the 5th best DT against run last year your best acuired free agent is Ebron you dropping the ball in my opinion. All we are doing is signing garbage players no one else wants and calling it competition, and losing half of the few talented players we need. They say Hankins doesn't fit scheme but I don't buy it, he wanted out. What's that say about the what we're building

If we wanted to keep Hankins, but he wanted out, we would have just said too bad... you're under contract so you're playing for us.

You don't cut someone just because they might've thrown a hussy fit. The real question is why didn't we trade Hankins....? Surely we could've at least gotten a 5th or 6th for him... at the very least. It doesn't pass the smell test to me because he still hasn't been signed. There's something more to that story than we all know...

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How many times do you have to read Ballard said the Colts are not about one player? That includes Luck.

Ballard said from day one he was going to build this team through the draft. What about that is hard to understand?

Ballard has done exactly what he said he was going to do and he hasn't done something he said he wasn't going to do.

Wow you seem unreasonably upset about his opinion. Couple questions for you since youre obviously in Ballards head....

1. What are the salary cap ramifications if Luck cannot play and has to be released this year or next? (I get that's speculation but you're confident enough in Ballards thinking to chastise a forum member then you should know his thoughts here too)

2. Ballard is "building though the draft" but has made offers to high end free agents that didn't agree to the Colts terms and didn't sign here. Correct? And he signed some big name players - Eric Ebron being one. correct? <---seems like more than just building through the draft but you're Ballard and were not.

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Wow you seem unreasonably upset about his opinion. Couple questions for you since youre obviously in Ballards head....

1. What are the salary cap ramifications if Luck cannot play and has to be released this year or next? (I get that's speculation but you're confident enough in Ballards thinking to chastise a forum member then you should know his thoughts here too)

2. Ballard is "building though the draft" but has made offers to high end free agents that didn't agree to the Colts terms and didn't sign here. Correct? And he signed some big name players - Eric Ebron being one. correct? <---seems like more than just building through the draft but you're Ballard and were not.

1- If Luck cant play then insurance will pay his contract

2-Don't believe everything you hear.

I am not upset about anything at all. Just because I listen and so far what Ballard has said holds true. Now if you want to use Ebron as an example feel free because he is not an expensive sign for his background.

Because I use a straight forward style of saying what I have to say, don't take it personal. So your half attempt to insult me with your comment about me being Ballard means zero.

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I am not upset about anything at all. Just because I listen and so far what Ballard has said holds true. Now if you want to use Ebron as an example feel free because he is not an expensive sign for his background.

Because I use a straight forward style of saying what I have to say, don't take it personal. So your half attempt to insult me with your comment about me being Ballard means zero.

You're saying there are no salary cap implications if Luck is released in the next year or two because insurance will shield the cap from that?

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Living in KC I've seen quite a few chiefs games the past few years and he gets picked on quite a bit. He plays soft and pensive, does not have good awareness, doesn't make many plays when the ball is in the air.

I'm not sure why Ballard signed him.

Sorry to hear that but not surprised honestly as most of our free agent additions have been underwhelming this off-season. Just add another to the list of depth signings. Colts will live and die by how well Ballard drafts.

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Your optimism is getting annoying on here(j/k)...everyone that isn't signed in the first couple of days in Free Agency is a "Camp Body"...please get with the program

1 hour ago, crestmount said:

The vast majority of guys signed in the first couple of days of FA were 'Camp Bodies' also--some with mind blowing salaries

Crestmount,

Please don't take this the wrong way, but you know that RR7 was simply being sarcastic for comedic effect right? He was just breaking the ice with Scott Pennock as a new poster & making him feel welcome.

I'm not disputing your point CMT. Just saying that humor is just humor that's all.

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How many times do you have to read Ballard said the Colts are not about one player? That includes Luck.

Ballard said from day one he was going to build this team through the draft. What about that is hard to understand?

Ballard has done exactly what he said he was going to do and he hasn't done something he said he wasn't going to do.

It is understandably hard for fans to accept that the Colts will not be contenders for 3 more years. I think most fans prefer to have their teams built through the draft. When you are as thin as the Colts are, and with so many holes to fill, it is a long process to build through the draft.

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I think depth is important, but Acker does not seem, to me, to be quality depth which I think is more important than cheap depth.

On paper, he has more starts and overall better stats than Desir, so I like the signing at first glance. Scheme fit should also be factored in, as he might be much better in a zone defense than playing press man coverage.

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How many times do you have to read Ballard said the Colts are not about one player? That includes Luck.

Ballard said from day one he was going to build this team through the draft. What about that is hard to understand?

Ballard has done exactly what he said he was going to do and he hasn't done something he said he wasn't going to do.

This 1000 times. People either thought Ballard was lying when he said he was going to be picky in free agency, or they just completely ignored him altogether. Either way, he's been very transparent as to what his approach was going to be, so anyone who's complaining just hasn't been paying attention.

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Please don't take this the wrong way, but you know that RR7 was simply being sarcastic for comedic effect right? He was just breaking the ice with Scott Pennock as a new poster & making him feel welcome.

I'm not disputing your point CMT. Just saying that humor is just humor that's all.

Thanks man, anyone who didn't get the sarcasm is too stupid to even converse with...lmao!

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I loved your original line: :Please get with program." Translation: Must I do all the heavy lifting around here?

You're the best @TheRustonRifle#7!

It reminds of that Monty Python scene in The Meaning Of Life when John Cleese as the human sexuality instructor says "Will you kindly wake up. This is for your benefit not mine. I really don't want to have to start all over again." LOL!

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I loved your original line: :Please get with program." Translation: Must I do all the heavy lifting around here?

You're the best @TheRustonRifle#7!

It reminds of that Monty Python scene in The Meaning Of Life when John Cleese as the human sexuality instructor says "Will you kindly wake up. This is for your benefit not mine. I really don't want to have to start all over again." LOL!

You know how much I appreciate you man! I really wasn't even angry at the blatant failure of the obvious, but had to point it out....you owe me a PM, Brother!

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You know how much I appreciate you man! I really wasn't even angry at the blatant failure of the obvious, but had to point it out....you owe me a PM, Brother!

Thanks man. You're right I do owe you a PM. I liked your ZZ Top selections too as well as your Jackson Browne stuff for NFLfan in the Status Update section. You know your s**t RR7, by bleep I mean both music & football.

It's definitely a mutual admiration society brother. No question.

You're right though. I need to just get off my caboose & shot you a PM. Along with Lollygagger8, Jay Kirk, & NFLfan while I'm at it. Not this weekend though maybe by Tuesday I'll get the ball rolling. I'm in a tunes state of mind at the moment.

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Living in KC I've seen quite a few chiefs games the past few years and he gets picked on quite a bit. He plays soft and pensive, does not have good awareness, doesn't make many plays when the ball is in the air.

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Cheap depth. Ballard has proven to do very well adding young depth to the team for little money. We are just waiting to see if he can add good quality starters by opening the wallet a little bit.

All Ballard has proven so far is a 4-12 record,,, nothing more. Not sure why he has so much credit with folks. I am not anti Ballard, but I am also not giving him credit for anything he hasn't done. Not sure why anyone else is beyond wishful thinking. Last years draft picks haven't proven anything yet, beyond being injury prone so far. Sure, we all hope they'll improve but I don't see any proof of anything. Ironically his best signing got cut due to scheme change, but it seems like we should at least have gotten something for him in trade. I gave him a pass year one, but he hasn't built up an ounce of slack beyond being neutral year one. If he flops this year he is squarely in Grigson territory. Grigs scored with his first draft even if you remove Luck from it. Even with our young free safety who missed over half the season, his first draft did not produce a Hilton or the two tight ends. So lets wait and see before we all blindly offer up "in Ballard we trust" because I heard plenty of "in Grigson we trust" claims to fall for all that baseless rhetoric again. He may be great or he may flop, but so far he's neither.

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Again; cheap and depth.... still no play makers or difference makers on either side of the ball. Not much left out there now and certainly can't get many, if any, immediate ones in the draft. Not sure what good a big amount of cap space will do the Colts. Don't care if it is only April, not like these type of players are suddenly coming available in the summer..... may take 2 or 3 drafts at best... meanwhile Colts stock pile cheap, depth players to fill the roster and sit on 2nd most cap space....

At least my season tickets aren't going to increase.....

Yeah, I can see your point. I am fine with not breaking the bank on old players, but could they really not find one clear starter in FA? Ebron is the highlight and his track record is underwhelming and Stafford is a solid QB. Ebron will pair with our starting TE, but wasn't there a starting defender worthy of signing in the entire FA field? Do they really need to save up cap space for whatever is left after the draft and people cut in training camps? Maybe every starter level FA was overpriced and unworthy of our 4-12 team, but I bet some of them do in fact play up or beyond their contracts on other teams. Meanwhile.... PS: we did sign a way over the hill guard/center so it isn't ALL about signing youth now is it?

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So in his 3 years as a starter, his last two in college and redshirt freshman year in the NFL he averaged 50 tackles, 8 pbu and 3 ints.....but everyone is poo pooing on him because he was a depth piece in KC when playing behind established corners on an established defense of a solid playoff team versus the 49ers....?

I'd say those three years were rather productive and perhaps he's due for a Nick Harper or Rashaan Melvin breakout.....?

Honestly those numbers are good 50 tackles a year as a CB is good. Certainly Ballard knows him he might excel in a cover 2 scheme if he a good tackler! At the very least he's a warm body for competition!

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By signing Cirini as FS and cutting ties with Acker this could also mean that over the weekend the coaching staff really liked what they saw out of the 3 undrafted rookies - Jackson, Durr and Toliver.

I think they liked what they saw from some of the rookies but it doesn't even have to be "really liked..." it could just be they thought they would get the same type of production as they would from Ackers.

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Brees is playing well but has way better playmakers around him and still has 4 less TDs than Luck. Most valuable player should have nothing to do with a team when an individual is balling out. Luck for MVP. (I know he won’t get it but he deserves it)

Glad you're not too. Some thought he was a steal at 15 and would have picked him at 10, LOL.
I wouldn't look to move on. Hookers on a rookie contract. But if we moved on, I wouldn't say the GM sucked like some might.

For an UDFA from a small school Odum looked just fine out there yesterday. He made several instinctive plays and tackled well.
Aside from jumping on the pile at the end of the first half I'd say he played pretty damned well!!!!!!