*Please note: This is intended solely for the 30000 and 35000 "Fat PS2 models". Your stupid farking screw assembly on the laser meant the machine had an almost 100% failure rate, Sony. I can't tell you how many people brought those things into my store (ran an EB/Gamestop in 2005-07). It didn't matter if it came back from the company HQ as a "refurb" - 30k and 35k models went straight in the defective pile. It was always the same story - After a few weeks, PS2 games wouldn't read. Then DVDs. Then finally PS1 games wouldn't read.

The "Slim" PS2s - 50000 and up - were gorgeous, however. I just wish they'd figured out a way to connect a hard drive to the slim model.

Thankfully, we'll never have to worry about retarded memory cards ever again.

*Please note: This is intended solely for the 30000 and 35000 "Fat PS2 models". Your stupid farking screw assembly on the laser meant the machine had an almost 100% failure rate, Sony. I can't tell you how many people brought those things into my store (ran an EB/Gamestop in 2005-07). It didn't matter if it came back from the company HQ as a "refurb" - 30k and 35k models went straight in the defective pile. It was always the same story - After a few weeks, PS2 games wouldn't read. Then DVDs. Then finally PS1 games wouldn't read.

The "Slim" PS2s - 50000 and up - were gorgeous, however. I just wish they'd figured out a way to connect a hard drive to the slim model.

Thankfully, we'll never have to worry about retarded memory cards ever again.

History repeats itself. "Phat" PS3's are dead or dying because of tin solder wiskers and a very under-engineered heat dissipation system. They can get up to 90-100C, pop the top and it's all crappy aluminum heat sinks with a tiny bit of copper and one huge fan. Burn baby, burn!

The slims are much better designed, and run much, much cooler. But if you have a Phat, the first good trade in deal you see, do it. Went through two Phats before I wised up. Luckily I traded in my working YLOD unit and grabbed a slim for a nice $100 instead of $350.

The PlayStation 2 was the worst system ever. In my opinion, the top-rated systems are:

1) Xbox 360 with Kinect, which brings interactive entertainment into my home like no other, whether I'm searching for cooking recipes with Bing, watching Gangnam Style on YouTube, talking to my friends on Facebook, or playing Call of Duty: Black Ops II on Xbox Live. Wow. What a lineup. We're moving Xbox into the future. Soon, you'll be able to follow along with all your favorite television shows, movies, and games by using SmartGlass, a revolutionary new way to watch your favorite shows. Allow me to demonstrate. Xbox. Xbox Bing. Movies. Harry Potter. Play movie. Confirm. Wow. How amazing like that? It's experiences like these that will make Microsoft products the forerunner of home entertainment.

Mike_LowELL:The PlayStation 2 was the worst system ever. In my opinion, the top-rated systems are:

1) Xbox 360 with Kinect, which brings interactive entertainment into my home like no other, whether I'm searching for cooking recipes with Bing, watching Gangnam Style on YouTube, talking to my friends on Facebook, or playing Call of Duty: Black Ops II on Xbox Live. Wow. What a lineup. We're moving Xbox into the future. Soon, you'll be able to follow along with all your favorite television shows, movies, and games by using SmartGlass, a revolutionary new way to watch your favorite shows. Allow me to demonstrate. Xbox. Xbox Bing. Movies. Harry Potter. Play movie. Confirm. Wow. How amazing like that? It's experiences like these that will make Microsoft products the forerunner of home entertainment.

Mike_LowELL:The PlayStation 2 was the worst system ever. In my opinion, the top-rated systems are:

1) Xbox 360 with Kinect, which brings interactive entertainment into my home like no other, whether I'm searching for cooking recipes with Bing, watching Gangnam Style on YouTube, talking to my friends on Facebook, or playing Call of Duty: Black Ops II on Xbox Live. Wow. What a lineup. We're moving Xbox into the future. Soon, you'll be able to follow along with all your favorite television shows, movies, and games by using SmartGlass, a revolutionary new way to watch your favorite shows. Allow me to demonstrate. Xbox. Xbox Bing. Movies. Harry Potter. Play movie. Confirm. Wow. How amazing like that? It's experiences like these that will make Microsoft products the forerunner of home entertainment.

*Please note: This is intended solely for the 30000 and 35000 "Fat PS2 models". Your stupid farking screw assembly on the laser meant the machine had an almost 100% failure rate, Sony. I can't tell you how many people brought those things into my store (ran an EB/Gamestop in 2005-07). It didn't matter if it came back from the company HQ as a "refurb" - 30k and 35k models went straight in the defective pile. It was always the same story - After a few weeks, PS2 games wouldn't read. Then DVDs. Then finally PS1 games wouldn't read.

The "Slim" PS2s - 50000 and up - were gorgeous, however. I just wish they'd figured out a way to connect a hard drive to the slim model.

Thankfully, we'll never have to worry about retarded memory cards ever again.

History repeats itself. "Phat" PS3's are dead or dying because of tin solder wiskers and a very under-engineered heat dissipation system. They can get up to 90-100C, pop the top and it's all crappy aluminum heat sinks with a tiny bit of copper and one huge fan. Burn baby, burn!

The slims are much better designed, and run much, much cooler. But if you have a Phat, the first good trade in deal you see, do it. Went through two Phats before I wised up. Luckily I traded in my working YLOD unit and grabbed a slim for a nice $100 instead of $350.

I have a launch 20GB PS3 that is still running. Eventually it will YLOD, and I'll pay to get it fixed, because I really like having a PS3 that plays PS2 games.

I have 2 original PS2 consoles that refuse to die. Even after leaving them on pause for days on end and using them as my DVD player. I refuse to upgrade. In fact, I just bought Bully and Manhunt last week.

Microsoft pretty firmly ended the original Xbox with a year of the 360 coming out, while Sony let the PS2 go on and on. Xbox never got to 25 million units is why. Today over 150 million PS2s have been sold, more than 360 and PS3 combined.

I've got one as well. As long as it still works, I don't see a need to buy another console (most of my gaming is PC, only things I do on console are fighting (MK, SC, DBZ, etc) and racing (Need for Speed).

Yes, the fat PS3's are awful. We actually went through the trouble of taking it apart TWICE to do the whole process where you heat the processor with a heat gun to re-solder it (Cant remember what the term is for doing it). Both times, would last about a month and a half and then that farking yellow light again.

The first time we didn't mind cause it was already broken and wanted to see if we could do it so it was a neat learning experience. The second time we realized just how big a pain in the ass it is to do and the novelty had worn off. The last time that yellow light came on, we said fark it and smashed it office space style

I love my PS2. It's my third or fourth one, but if it were to die, I would still want a replacement.

Plus, it plays PS games, and while I only have about half a dozen, they all get replayed once every few years (except FF7 - the blocky "graphics" kill the game for me). You can pry FFIX from my cold, dead hands!

*Please note: This is intended solely for the 30000 and 35000 "Fat PS2 models". Your stupid farking screw assembly on the laser meant the machine had an almost 100% failure rate, Sony. I can't tell you how many people brought those things into my store (ran an EB/Gamestop in 2005-07). It didn't matter if it came back from the company HQ as a "refurb" - 30k and 35k models went straight in the defective pile. It was always the same story - After a few weeks, PS2 games wouldn't read. Then DVDs. Then finally PS1 games wouldn't read.

The "Slim" PS2s - 50000 and up - were gorgeous, however. I just wish they'd figured out a way to connect a hard drive to the slim model.

Thankfully, we'll never have to worry about retarded memory cards ever again.

I have a day 1 PS2 that is still working like a charm as my backup dvd player in a second bedroom. My xbox 360, however, is a pile of non-functioning electronics in a closet somewhere. Little too much luck on the PS2 and not enough on the Xbox, I suppose.

we still play PS2. It has so many fun games, it's just an all-around good system. I just old off all my Wii stuff (I'm not 8 years old) but keep the PS2 going. I was only using the Wii to stream Netflix, and I canceled that because any time I wanted to stream something, it wasn't available as streaming, anyway. But the PS2, that thing is awesome.

devilskware:I have 2 original PS2 consoles that refuse to die. Even after leaving them on pause for days on end and using them as my DVD player. I refuse to upgrade. In fact, I just bought Bully and Manhunt last week.

/Got a little tired of Vice City, Madden 2004 and MLB 2006.

It took being left on 24/7 for who knows how many months in a dank basement by my brother after I gave it to him to finally kill my launch day PS2 back in 2009. Ten years from now those things will probably still be running.

serpent_sky:we still play PS2. It has so many fun games, it's just an all-around good system. I just old off all my Wii stuff (I'm not 8 years old) but keep the PS2 going. I was only using the Wii to stream Netflix, and I canceled that because any time I wanted to stream something, it wasn't available as streaming, anyway. But the PS2, that thing is awesome.

Haven't sold my Wii mainly for virtual console games and want to play a LOT of Skyward Sword, but other than that, that thing is getting traded in, especially if I get a Wii U. Replaced my PS1 with a PS2 though, would get a PS3 if i can find a PS2 compatible model that still works, and for cheaper as well.

My Xbox360 just red lighted. the lower right corner of the circle thingie. Now i have to go out and by a new DVD player. I heard it could play video games but I didn't own any. DVD's and linking to my music server was it's only purpose.

Nem Wan:Microsoft pretty firmly ended the original Xbox with a year of the 360 coming out, while Sony let the PS2 go on and on. Xbox never got to 25 million units is why. Today over 150 million PS2s have been sold, more than 360 and PS3 combined.

The original Xbox was always going to be a sunk cost. Microsoft took a loss knowing they would be able to improve and put out a next-generation console. Considering how well they've sold the Xbox, it was a wise investment.

Mike_LowELL:The PlayStation 2 was the worst system ever. In my opinion, the top-rated systems are:

1) Xbox 360 with Kinect, which brings interactive entertainment into my home like no other, whether I'm searching for cooking recipes with Bing, watching Gangnam Style on YouTube, talking to my friends on Facebook, or playing Call of Duty: Black Ops II on Xbox Live. Wow. What a lineup. We're moving Xbox into the future. Soon, you'll be able to follow along with all your favorite television shows, movies, and games by using SmartGlass, a revolutionary new way to watch your favorite shows. Allow me to demonstrate. Xbox. Xbox Bing. Movies. Harry Potter. Play movie. Confirm. Wow. How amazing like that? It's experiences like these that will make Microsoft products the forerunner of home entertainment.

This is the reason I joined Fark all those years ago. Fark needs more of this man/woman.

UNC_Samurai:Nem Wan: Microsoft pretty firmly ended the original Xbox with a year of the 360 coming out, while Sony let the PS2 go on and on. Xbox never got to 25 million units is why. Today over 150 million PS2s have been sold, more than 360 and PS3 combined.

The original Xbox was always going to be a sunk cost. Microsoft took a loss knowing they would be able to improve and put out a next-generation console. Considering how well they've sold the Xbox, it was a wise investment.

Kinect actually has been the better investment for them. Cheap to make, popular, and instantaneously profitable. Question really is, after having to put away $3 Billion to (do the right thing) and cover RROD's, can we say they're in the black? Not that it matters, as shareholders don't seem to be worried.

Sony should have done the same thing, but they won't (nor couldn't) eat a loss like that. In fact, the playstation brand / division was the only thing profitable in the entire company last quarter, and they moved it under they home electronics division to make their LCD losses look better.

UNC_Samurai:*Please note: This is intended solely for the 30000 and 35000 "Fat PS2 models". Your stupid farking screw assembly on the laser meant the machine had an almost 100% failure rate, Sony. I can't tell you how many people brought those things into my store (ran an EB/Gamestop in 2005-07). It didn't matter if it came back from the company HQ as a "refurb" - 30k and 35k models went straight in the defective pile. It was always the same story - After a few weeks, PS2 games wouldn't read. Then DVDs. Then finally PS1 games wouldn't read.

LOL. I used to "repair" these. 10 min. with a screwdriver and they worked good as new. Got a few free ones by people tossing them out.

TyrantII:UNC_Samurai: Nem Wan: Microsoft pretty firmly ended the original Xbox with a year of the 360 coming out, while Sony let the PS2 go on and on. Xbox never got to 25 million units is why. Today over 150 million PS2s have been sold, more than 360 and PS3 combined.

The original Xbox was always going to be a sunk cost. Microsoft took a loss knowing they would be able to improve and put out a next-generation console. Considering how well they've sold the Xbox, it was a wise investment.

Kinect actually has been the better investment for them. Cheap to make, popular, and instantaneously profitable. Question really is, after having to put away $3 Billion to (do the right thing) and cover RROD's, can we say they're in the black? Not that it matters, as shareholders don't seem to be worried.

Sony should have done the same thing, but they won't (nor couldn't) eat a loss like that. In fact, the playstation brand / division was the only thing profitable in the entire company last quarter, and they moved it under they home electronics division to make their LCD losses look better.

You're right about Sony, but remember: Kinect doesn't exist without Microsoft taking the hit to get into the console market in the first place.

Mike_LowELL:The PlayStation 2 was the worst system ever. In my opinion, the top-rated systems are:

1) Xbox 360 with Kinect, which brings interactive entertainment into my home like no other, whether I'm searching for cooking recipes with Bing, watching Gangnam Style on YouTube, talking to my friends on Facebook, or playing Call of Duty: Black Ops II on Xbox Live. Wow. What a lineup. We're moving Xbox into the future. Soon, you'll be able to follow along with all your favorite television shows, movies, and games by using SmartGlass, a revolutionary new way to watch your favorite shows. Allow me to demonstrate. Xbox. Xbox Bing. Movies. Harry Potter. Play movie. Confirm. Wow. How amazing like that? It's experiences like these that will make Microsoft products the forerunner of home entertainment.

Does this mean that Sony will put backwards compatibility back into the PS3? One of the reasons why they took it out was because with the price cut, it would be about the same cost to buy both a PS3 and PS2 as it would be to buy a backwards compatible PS3 pre price cut.

This. The wife and I still play ours, and we'll continue to do so until it dies, and then I'll have to find a new one. It's a great system, and my favorite right after the SNES. (Which I also have and still play.)

razyjean:I love my PS2. It's my third or fourth one, but if it were to die, I would still want a replacement.

Plus, it plays PS games, and while I only have about half a dozen, they all get replayed once every few years (except FF7 - the blocky "graphics" kill the game for me). You can pry FFIX from my cold, dead hands!

*Please note: This is intended solely for the 30000 and 35000 "Fat PS2 models". Your stupid farking screw assembly on the laser meant the machine had an almost 100% failure rate, Sony. I can't tell you how many people brought those things into my store (ran an EB/Gamestop in 2005-07). It didn't matter if it came back from the company HQ as a "refurb" - 30k and 35k models went straight in the defective pile. It was always the same story - After a few weeks, PS2 games wouldn't read. Then DVDs. Then finally PS1 games wouldn't read.

The "Slim" PS2s - 50000 and up - were gorgeous, however. I just wish they'd figured out a way to connect a hard drive to the slim model.

Thankfully, we'll never have to worry about retarded memory cards ever again.