Trump’s Evangelicals and Conservative Roman Catholics Have Offered Themselves as Exhibit #1 in the Secular Case for Rejecting All Christians as Toxic

You can bet on this: 60 percent-plus of Americans will exit the Trump era convinced that conservative Christianity is just white identity politics. They will be right. The white evangelical and conservative Roman Catholic alliance is comprised of the walking dead.

Trump is setting up a generational schism that will contribute to evangelical and conservative Roman Catholic Christianity’s final American crisis. This crisis began when science proved to anyone with a brain that whole swaths of fundamentalist faith are plain stupid. Nevertheless Christianity for a time almost survived its denial of reality because in their daily lives Christians behaved in rational ways.
No more. These folks didn’t stop at just believing in Noah’s Ark in church but also elected Donald Trump! American Christianity will not survive this marriage to the Trumped Republican Party’s moral and political fall.

When Social Security is cut, Medicaid destroyed, the poor dying as healthcare is removed, our waterways fouled, consumer protection obliterated, and Nazi marchers in the ascendant– Americans will remember who to thank.

Thanks to Trump, Old, White, Misinformed, Bigot are the first words that come to mind when people under 35 hear the word Evangelical.

The association between white conservative Roman Catholic Christians, white evangelicals and Trump – who is so proudly un-Christian in word and deed – is undoing the religious right’s future. In evangelicals’ and conservative Roman Catholic’s muddled brains Trump is defending unborn children and Americans endangered by Islam. In reality Trump has destroyed their brand forever by really only defending himself and his utterly corrupt family’s financial interests. He’s doing this even at the expense of America’s governmental agencies that Trump supposedly leads such as the FBI. He’s attacking our own bulwark of democracy and governance as an act of pre-emptive self-preservation because the Mueller Russia probe closes in. And his evangelical and conservative Roman Catholic storm troopers are echoing Trump’s lies for him.

Christians deny the heart of their gospel when they’re seen to excuse lies, rationalize incompetence and impose double standards. In the Trump era evangelicals and conservative Roman Catholics have offered themselves as exhibit #1 in the secular case for rejecting all Christians as toxic, hypocritical and downright dumb.

White evangelical Christians and conservative Roman Catholics have defended, rationalized and excused Trump’s – and even Roy Moore’s – conduct they’d never, ever have condoned in a Democrat. But according to their own theology, there are not two standards of morality depending on judicial appointments for those who claim to have “The Truth.”

Is Trump doing God’s work? Not so much even by conservative Christian standards. Aside from appointing “pro-life” justices, Trump is extremely unpopular with most because he’s enabling a billionaire’s agenda widely hated by everyone outside the GOP leadership, especially by millennials. How has even the white “pro-life” American Jesus wound up helping to make the Koch brothers richer at the expense of poor children?

This betrayal of Christian faith for politics didn’t start with Trump. Where were scandalized white evangelicals when their very own evangelical George W. Bush left Iraqi Christians to face jihadi violence? Of about one million Christians, some 900,000 were ethnically cleansed most of them while US troops still occupied Iraq.

As they do now with Trump evangelicals proved then with Bush that the slavish partisan politics of the GOP drove them, not loyalty to their faith let alone to their fellow Christians. Was it because those particular “brothers and sisters in Christ” were brown that their deaths, rapes and exodus left white evangelicals unmoved? I think it was.

Doesn’t scripture repeatedly condemn the exact kind of moral compromises that white evangelical and conservative Roman Catholics make every day to keep supporting Trump say, even after he endorses a pedophile? Don’t they believe those scriptures like this one anymore: “A [leader] then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behavior” (1 Timothy 3:2).

Apparently not. They believe in Ayn Rand, power and money if you judge by actions rather than words.
If Franklin Graham, Jerry Falwell Jr and Dr. Dobson or the leaders among the conservative Catholic American bishops were actual Christian leaders not far right white supremacists these days here’s what they’d say: “There’s nothing more dangerous to the church than a lack of faith shown when we rationalize Trump’s bad acts out of a misguided and faithless sense of political necessity.”

And that is what they are not saying. Like Sherlock Holmes’ case he solved based on the fact that a dog did not bark, the Conservative Roman Catholic and white evangelical leadership’s silence speaks volumes. It is the silence of spiritual death. And no resurrection awaits this crucifixion.

” An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion ” ( urbandictionary )

He also speaks the truth when he says: “As they do now with Trump evangelicals proved then with Bush that the slavish partisan politics of the GOP drove them, not loyalty to their faith let alone to their fellow Christians. Was it because those particular “brothers and sisters in Christ” were brown that their deaths, rapes, and exodus left white evangelicals unmoved? I think it was.”

To which, if you read Bryson’s ultra-racists comments condemning me for being in an interracial relationship with a Black man as if I am somehow engaging in bestiality, it is very clear that racism is at the very core of Fundamentalist Christian belief!

” Abadie, I told you I didn’t care who you have sex with. Why don’t you believe that? It does not matter to me if you are a slut. I’m not trying to run your life. You make your own decisions ”

Bryson … you most certainly do care who Ms Abadie’s partner is . Fact is by the number of time you’ve commented and insulted her on it ( including here ) … you’re effing obsessed by it .

And not trying to run anyone’s life ?

Well yeah .. as a troll you can’t run anyone’s life ( including your own ) … but that sure as hell is what you are making claims to be wanting to do in your pretense of being an alt right christofascist funda(MENTAL)ist

He sure is obsessed with my partner being black and insults me about it every chance he gets. These being other comments he’s made to that regard:
“Don’t be too sure your relationship with your boy is healthy.”
“The two of you fornicate with each other.”

His obsession is such, that if he could, he would have me burnt at the stake, and relish at my suffering for betraying the white race!

TJ, do be careful about using “mental” as an insult… I understand the usage, here. I have no problem calling some people and ideas “crazy” in the common parlance myself…

But speaking as someone who is “mental” – well, there’s a difference between off-kilter and stupid, and a stark difference between “needs some help in regulating one’s emotions” and being evil. I’m depressed and anxious almost all of the time, definitely “mental” – but I’m not a pedo-supporting hyper-bigot. *Grin.*

If you read through previous threads you will note the many … many … times Mr. Bryson has delighted in telling others that they are going to hell where they will experience the torturous agony of burning for all eternity. And while he may not be “mental” within the context that you have stated, the sheer number of comments such as: “Go to Hell. And I have the deep satisfaction of knowing you will” and “You can’t prove that torture is immoral” are sure indications that he is a sadistic psychopath, as no one in their right mind, let alone a true Christian would wish that on anyone with such gusto!

No doubt that people can be both crazy and evil. As for Gory, while whether or not he is truly crazy might be questionable, that he enjoys the suffering of others, and expresses great satisfaction that an eternal and exceedingly horrific fate awaits those who disagree with him, don’t believe as he does, or are involve in either a homosexual and/or an interracial relationship—is the hallmark of sadism.

Agreed. And, I read your comment from the guy talking about Christians condemning people to hell. It’s hateful, just like most of their doctrines. I think Gary doubts his own faith. Why else would he be reading this blog? Certainly he knows that we’re past that life and won’t return!

Perhaps he does doubt his own faith. But personally, I feel that the reason why he reads and posts to this blog is that he feels threatened by those who in the past did not vote would recognize the very real threat that the likes of him pose to this country, and thereby take action to ensure that this country does not become a theocracy by getting more involved in the political process and actually vote for candidates who support the separation of church and state.

Exactly right!! I’m glad you said it because I was getting ready to myself. Go away all trolls. If you don’t have anything constructive to add to this important forum then piss off. Nine is around here and we are not going to put up with it.

Eh, I don’t know. I’ve given up telling trolls to go away on places I go to. Instead, I treat them as “pets” and have a little devious fun with them. Now, I know not to feed them often, but when everyone’s ignoring them and they’re still sticking around, occasionally, it’s fun to put a “Snausage” in front of their nose and watch them dance. As long as you don’t take anything they say personally or seriously, great fun can be had playing with a troll – if nothing more, they can bring out more and more of their idiocy to be put on display for the general public reading the blog.

I frequent “Slacktivist” on Patheos. The community has a few resident trolls – someone named “Frank” in various forms (no relation to the Frank of this blog) is a cockroach that just won’t die, no matter how many IP bans he’s under. Then there is a weird white-supremacist Catholic / Anglican? weirdo by the name of “New England Sun.” The board has taken to calling him “NES” and some of us nerdy people refer to him as “Nintendo Entertainment System” (since that’s the NES we grew up on). I make video game jokes when he shows up. Anyway, I’ve had a lot of fun stringing them both along sometimes. It might make me a bit of a troll, myself, but trolling the trolls presents me with mild amusement and some great jokes can be had with them. Though, I kind of wish the Slacktivist community would revive the old tradition of “When a troll shows up, we reply to him by sharing baking recipes.” It was a fine inside-joke and people got good cooking out of it.

Don’t be perturbed. Save your blood pressure by making them into “pets.”

I like your style Shadsie… Indeed, I too like playing with trolls, and find it hysterically funny when they bite on my baits. Such as is the case with poor Mr. Bryson, when I knew that he’d be really butthurt over Roy Moore losing the elections, I deliberately told him that my partner is Black, knowing full well that he’d come back at me with all sorts of crude racists remarks. Needless to say, and much to my delight, he did not disappoint me and posted some of the most racist remarks I’ve heard, (everything from I’m a slut to should my Black partner knock me up, I should have an abortion so as not to pollute the white race) which, of course, I now share each and every time he trolls this blog.

I have yet to do one of those genetic testing things that are advertised heavily right now. I’d like to try one some day just to see where some of my genetic roots are – if I really am as “near pure” Scandinavian as I think I am (my Dad’s side of the family came from there). Anyway, I read somewhere that some white supremacists have been taking those tests in order to prove their “purity” only to find out that they do, in fact, have some African and Middle Eastern genetics – and it is hilarious.

What’s gotten me interested in maybe getting one of those tests when I have disposable income (which is never) is that a friend’s family did “23 and Me” collectively and my friend learned among her ancestry that she is “1% Black.”

I wonder what if Bryson’s head would explode if he took one of those tests and found out that he was 1% or more Black. He’s probably “polluted” given that most modern humans, particularly Americans have a lot of mixture. Even those of us who come from European ancestry… well, lots of trade happened in Europe back in olden days.

What’s to like about Fundamentalist Christians, who like Mr. Bryson post things such as these comments:

“Most white Alabama voters voted for Roy Moore, and almost all darkie Alabama voters voted for Doug Jones. Without the negro vote, Jones would not have won. Once again, negores have proven to be a liability rather than an asset.”

“To all the women who voted for Jones: abortion will improve your life dramatically.”

“I should not wish anyone were dead. But, it is true that those who will never become Christians would be better off if they were dead, since the longer they live, the more sins they commit and the greater will be their eternal punishment. Now I didn’t invent that system, God did. So if you have a problem with it, you should complain to the God of the Bible.”

“I wouldn’t expect people involved in interracial sex to be a fan of Roy Moore.”

“Are you white? Unless you are, you can’t pollute the White Race by having sex with a negro.”

“But those “roughly 40 other Christian denominations” are NOT CHRISTIANS!!! Only fundamentalist Christians are real Christians.”

“You think abortion is murder? Your liberal friends won’t like that. But, you are right, abortion is the murder of an unborn child. That’s why it’s immoral and unconstitutional. But, it still has some benefits. Women who have abortions are wicked. If they had the child instead of killing it, they would raise it to be wicked, like they are. We have an oversupply of wicked people already. So it benefits society for wicked women to not reproduce.”

“Non-Christians WILL burn in Hell for eternity because that is what the Bible says.”

You cannot possibly be as ignorant as your post so I’m assuming you’re having some serious mental problems. I am so sorry about your condition. I’ve known people who also suffer and it’s not an easy life. I hope you get help and that sometime in the near future you begin to improve. You are in my thoughts and prayers.

What’s to like about Fundamentalist Christians, who like Mr. Bryson post things such as these comments:

“Most white Alabama voters voted for Roy Moore, and almost all darkie Alabama voters voted for Doug Jones. Without the negro vote, Jones would not have won. Once again, negores have proven to be a liability rather than an asset.”

“To all the women who voted for Jones: abortion will improve your life dramatically.”

“I should not wish anyone were dead. But, it is true that those who will never become Christians would be better off if they were dead, since the longer they live, the more sins they commit and the greater will be their eternal punishment. Now I didn’t invent that system, God did. So if you have a problem with it, you should complain to the God of the Bible.”

“I wouldn’t expect people involved in interracial sex to be a fan of Roy Moore.”

“Are you white? Unless you are, you can’t pollute the White Race by having sex with a negro.”

“But those “roughly 40 other Christian denominations” are NOT CHRISTIANS!!! Only fundamentalist Christians are real Christians.”

“You think abortion is murder? Your liberal friends won’t like that. But, you are right, abortion is the murder of an unborn child. That’s why it’s immoral and unconstitutional. But, it still has some benefits. Women who have abortions are wicked. If they had the child instead of killing it, they would raise it to be wicked, like they are. We have an oversupply of wicked people already. So it benefits society for wicked women to not reproduce.”

“Non-Christians WILL burn in Hell for eternity because that is what the Bible says.”

America is like a drunk roaring through the world like a tornado. All drunks have one thing in common and that is that they must first hit a bottom before they are willing to rescind their old ideas. Interesting Catholicism is featured here. Kennedy, our first catholic president and the last worthy of the office. Kennedy/Kenning. I wonder if you know of Kenning. It is our collective voice as sentient beings. We all know we have been lied to for a very long time. Perhaps this rock bottom of American insanity can be a precursor for better attitudes. Keep up the good work.

The primary pantheon of gods worshipped by the pantheistic pagan cult that contemporary evangelical / fundamental / catholic christianity has become ( divided into tiers according to rank and importance )

Money / Mammon ( their one true god )

Greed , Power and Lust ( Mammon’s three bastard sons all of whom point towards Mammon )

Ayn Rand ( their holy spirit / guide and primary oracle )

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The apostles .. Arms & Guns ( the gods they’ll place above Mammon if push comes to shove and the ones they will sacrifice anything and everything for )

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Celebrity ( their muses and secondary oracles / prophets )

Entertainment ( their Pan who leads them down the road to conspiracy , lies and celebrity )

and his sidekick ..

Social Media ( a minor god who’s sole purpose is to both entertain and constrain creating an intellectual vacuum across the land )

Gluttony and Wretched Excess Consumerism ( the self destructive first cousin twins of Mammon’s three bastard sons supported and encouraged by Entertainment and Social Media )

etc etc etc

So where does the God of the Bible and the Bible itself fit in you may ask ?

It is the white sheet they use to cover over their true beliefs and gods in order to appear righteous while in the depths of sin and depravation

.. a bonafide Believer as well as a ( Reformation ) Theologian / Apologist / Philosopher .. who like Frank was a former ‘ insider ‘ ( still floating like a ghost on the fringes ) .. but unlike Frank did not lose his Faith along with his religion ?

As well as … aint it ironic that such desperate situations would create such odd alliances who under normal circumstances would of been at odds with one another .. now choosing to focus on their common ground and well as the common enemy ?

” What a long strange trip its been ” indeed .. and getting stranger by the minute

Not at all ironic, being that it is a very well documented fact within the psychological community, that when disaster strikes people will band together against a common enemy. And in that sense, Drumph is actually a blessing, albeit very much in disguise…

But since this blog is about “Christianity” here is Jack Wellman an Evangelical pastor’s take…

“When a natural disaster strikes, people who were opposed to one another ideologically, politically, and socially, including people of different color, different incomes, and different in many other ways, now join together to work for a common goal, and that is to help those who have had their lives disrupted. There are no differences anymore because now it is human life that matters the most. When others suffer great loss, our problems shrink to insignificance and it’s as if everything else is not important anymore because our neighbors, fellow citizens, or people of the state need our help, so now we seek to join hands in reducing the human suffering, and we want help in any way that we can. When lives are threatened, all other things pale in comparison. When disaster hits, suddenly there is no red or blue, Democrat or Republican, black or white, or rich or poor…we are all one because tragedy draws us all together like nothing else can…”

Now if we want to get really religious about all this, within the context of God loving us first and putting His Spirit in us so that we can love like God does, and this type of love is outward flowing, extending ever outward, toward others, and is never self-directed. Love doesn’t point inward but is directed toward others, so any love we have today is from God because God is love, and we must love others like God loves us. If a person is a Christ-follower, they will begin to think less of themselves and more about others, so when natural disasters hit, believers are already in a frame of mind to reach out and help. They need no motivation because they already have a desire to visit the sick, the imprisoned, strangers, feed the hungry, clothe the naked, and give drinks to the thirsty, because they see that doing these things for others (Matt 5:34-39) is the same as doing it for Christ (Matt 25:40).

Not that Gory would know any of this because he deliberately avoids reading anything in the bible that even as much as mentions love as if it were the plague!!!

If Schaeffer is right, he should be happy. If he’s right, Christianity is becoming more and more disliked by Americans, which means fewer Americans will be attending churches and claiming to be Christians. That’s what Frank wants. But Frank does not seem to be happy. Maybe he doesn’t really believe what he says?

The problem is the hypocrisy of those who feel that as long as they believe in the bible, they can do whatever evil they want including rape, torture, and murder, being that according to them, their “belief” in the bible is what atones whatever sins they may commit. Which is why, for example, so many Fundamentalist Christian pastors are rapists. As in, they feel that their belief in the bible gives them carte blanche to sin with impunity.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news Bryson … but the fact is despite many Americans ‘ claiming ‘ to be one sort of a christian or another … the fact is churches are bleeding off members like a stuck pig in a slaughterhouse .. donations are way down … and … even the ‘ so called ‘ Mega Churches ‘ have come nothing more than revolving doors

Fact is .. the physical church in the US … is for all practical purposes …. Dead Man Walking .. with even the Bible Belt fading rapidly into obscurity due in no small part to its hypocrisy and lies

But bitching and moaning ? Sorry troll boy but ahh .. to make use of a pop culture idiom .. Dr TJ Martin don’t play that game

And celebrating ? Do tell Bryson … why would one such as myself that has spent the majority of his life defending the Truth and fighting to keep the church on the straight and narrow path … celebrate as the church he once loved becomes more hell bent than ever … on becoming … hell bent .. to its own eventual destruction ?

Golly Bryson .. somehow I missed this one from Ms. Abadie’s synopsis of your comments and replies ;

“Only fundamentalist Christians are real Christians.”

Ahhh … guess what troll boy ? By all standards accepted by every Christian denomination and Faith across the board … claiming sole exclusivity …as you’ve done above … is one of the prime indicators … of

Believers in what Gory? Jesus’s message that God is love and that we should engender to be kind, loving, compassionate and forgiving… or believing that if you don’t believe everything in the KJB is factual and inerrant you are doomed to hell. Which is hysterically funny given that when faced with the issue of whether or not the bible says that the earth is flat as opposed to spherical, as for example with Revelation 7:1, which speaks of four angels standing on the four corners of the earth and restraining the four winds of the earth. Even the most ardent students of hyper-literal interpretation of the Bible is quick to acknowledge the frequent poetic elements and the use of imagery in the book of Revelation.

The Bible says God created everything in six days. It says God drowned everyone in a flood, except Noah and his family. It says Jesus was born of a virgin and rose from the dead. If you don’t believe those things, they your claim that you believe God is love is unbelievable.

Bulls**t troll boy . For the umpteenth time .. the Bible .. in its original translations .. as well as the Latin Volgate which predates the KJB by some 1300 years .. says God created the heavens and the earth in six epochs / ages … not literal 24 hour days

2) ” Christianity is an EXCLUSIVE religion. Only believers are part of it ”

Bulls**t again troll boy . Learn to READ ! You in your original statement claim that ONLY those calling themselves fundamentalists are Christians e.g.

“Only fundamentalist Christians are real Christians.”

With that you are claiming those denominations and churches labeling themselves as Fundamentalists .. are the sole and exclusive possessors of the Truth and Biblical Christianity

Which is the very definition and primary indicator of a heretical religious CULT

And ahhhh … troll boy … even the IFB your pretend to be a part of holds to that definition … I ought to know … cause ahhhh troll boy … thats why I was called in to consult for the IFB .. clarifying and defining what is a cult and what the primary indicators of a cult … are

In your mistranslated KJB … yes .. but in the original languages as well as the Latin from which the KJB was derived ..( because ole King Jame’s translators and revisionists were only interested in furthering the Kings agenda of ridding England of all but the Church of England not accuracy …)

.. the correct translation to English is … AGE … or EPOCH …. NOT SIX LITERAL DAYS

” The Bible says God created everything in six days. It says God drowned everyone in a flood, except Noah and his family. It says Jesus was born of a virgin and rose from the dead. ”

Ahhhh …hates ta tell ya this troll boy … but Satan himself believes that to be true . Fact is … he knows it is three

But what he … and YOU do not believe in … is your own Guilt / Culpability … your need for God’s LOVE … and your need for Forgiveness .. and your requirement upon receiving the gift of salvation to be sharing God’s love with your neighbors and others around you … regardless of race creed or color .

And on the subject of Culpability / Guilt …. they are the very foundation of the Judeo- Christian Faith …. neither of which do you even in the depths of your pretending … believe in

God had no problem creating everything in six days. Six days makes more sense than six long periods of time. The KJV is a good translation, and one that all the Christians I have known have used and believed. The ones who have gone home had very successful lives using the KJV. It was good enough for them, and its good enough for me. Others can make their own decisions.

Gee troll boy … got a spot of early onset dementia setting in ? Cause ahhh … as a reminder .. over multiple comments and replies thats the church you claim to attend .. an Independent Fundamentalist Baptist church … e.g. IFB

OK. But the church I attend doesn’t belong to an organized group.
By the way, I asked my pastor if he has, or would, release his membership rolls to anyone, and he said there is no way that would happen. Which I knew before I asked him, but I thought I’d ask, just to double check. No independent Baptist church that I know of would show their membership roll to anyone.

” God has already forgiven my sins. I trusted Jesus Christ as my Savior years ago. I’m part of God’s family and on my way to Heaven. And happy about it all ”

Bulls**t .. from top to bottom pure unadulterated bulls**t and lies .. right down to your claims of being … happy .

Cause ahh … you’s anything but a happy little soul . Fact is you’re the most paranoid delusional depressed and chronically angry little soul I’ve even run across

But then again .. thats because everything about you is fraudulent and a lie … because … all you really are is an example of ;

” The internet troll hides behind his computer screen, and actively goes out of his way to cause trouble on the Internet. Like the mythological troll, the internet troll is angry and disruptive in every way imaginable ” (lifewire.com )

.” OK. But the church I attend doesn’t belong to an organized group.
By the way, I asked my pastor if he has, or would, release his membership rolls to anyone, and he said there is no way that would happen. Which I knew before I asked him, but I thought I’d ask, just to double check. No independent Baptist church that I know of would show their membership roll to anyone ”

Liar !

1) You claimed several times to being a member of an IFB church

2) The IFB mandates that all churches keep their membership roles up to date with the central denomination in order that funds be properly distributed between the individual churches including missionary etc dollars

3) Therefore it does not matter what your wishful thinking white trash pastor thinks or wants

and ;

4) It was two prominent members within the IFB that sent me the membership roles .. not any individual pastor .

5) And when I called you out on that … you then did an about face claiming you were not a ‘member ‘ … after stating multiple times to myself and everyone else .. that you were

So in conclusion … not only are you a blatant liar … but you’re a pretty damn lousy one as well

” God had no problem creating everything in six days. Six days makes more sense than six long periods of time. The KJV is a good translation, and one that all the Christians I have known have used and believed. The ones who have gone home had very successful lives using the KJV. It was good enough for them, and its good enough for me. Others can make their own decisions ”

Nobody asked you what may make sense or what does not . Especially the God of the Bible

The ONLY thing that does matter .. is what does the actual text say … and what is true

And the simple fact is … the KJB/KJV as a mistranslation , revisionist translation .. sucks … riddled with errors and inaccuracies .. and that aint opinion troll boy … thats the FACT .

And the fact is .. troll .. your opinion doesn’t matter in the slightest

Question ; From whom according to the Bible did all mankind come from ?

Answer ; Adam and Eve

Question ; Then how many races are there according to the information given within Scripture ?

Answer ; One .. mankind

Question ; Then is it in any way shape or form Biblical to claim there are different races as well as to be a racist towards others ?

Answer ; It is in fact antithetical to the whole of Scripture to claim there is more than one race and to express racism to that which has been created in God’s image

e.g. Race … is an invention of man … not God or the Bible

And ahhhh … wanna real twist in your BVD’s troll boy ? Genetics has proven Scripture to be true . There is only one race .. with all of us descended from the same gene pool … from the same area ( central Africa )

Oooooppps! Poor old Gory doesn’t like it when he is confronted with his ancestry, and that genetically he is no different than anyone else… And on that note, while there is really no evidence of Jesus’s ethnicity, The white-centric view is historically flawed. The assumption that Jesus was white deserves far more skepticism than the proposal that he was black. It is far more likely, both geographically and genetically, that he was black rather than white. That is the blunt scientific truth. We can be sure that he wasn’t White. In fact, he could have very well been Black… https://www.premierchristianity.com/Blog/Jesus-is-black.-Get-over-it

” You can read whatever you want. The Christians I have known all use the KJV, and it has served them well ”

Liar ! Fact is hiding behind your screen and troll persona you don’t know any christians nor are you one yourself .

As for the KJB serving anyone well … how does a badly translated and in many cases intentionally mistranslated and reinterpreted book of any kind riddled with errors , revisionist passages etc serve anyone … well ?

Answer ? It does not

But hey .. you’re just a troll … what would you know … about .. anything ?

And just how does that prove your point? If you want to say “Baptists” are a denomination, then fine. But there is no organization of Independent Baptist churches that I know of. None around where I live.

My church is not listed. And I’ll bet none of the churches who are listed will show their membership rolls. That’s just an information page. It isn’t an oversight organization. Independent Baptist churches don’t answer to anyone but their own members, and to God.

Seems as if Gary has problems with symbolic and abstract reasoning. I seem to remember literal thinking is very common in kids until between the ages of 11 and 16. I guess some people never grow out of that stage.

Just because I don’t like you abadie doesn’t mean I can’t reason. By the way, you are the one who decided to be a slut. That decision was yours alone. If it bothers you that people notice, well, that goes with the territory.

Stacey… Mr. Bryson is a blatant racist, so when he says “She has a friend who is a boy” he is referring to my Black partner. I’m guessing that in his perverted mind he’s figuring that the only reason why I could possibly be in an interracial relationship “MUST” be because Black men are known to be endowed with larger penises…

Oh Brys**t .. in case this fact has eluded your 10 – 15 year old deranged little troll brain .. you broke the truce the minute you called Ms Abadie a slut early on on this thread … then exacerbating it with your racist comments and slurs afterwards .

” My church is not listed. And I’ll bet none of the churches who are listed will show their membership rolls. That’s just an information page. It isn’t an oversight organization. Independent Baptist churches don’t answer to anyone but their own members, and to God ”

Your church is not listed because your ‘ church ‘ does not exist because if it did it would be on the list as all IFB churches are required to be . And seeing as how I have those membership roles in my possession … well … that pretty much says everything anyone needs to know when it comes to Brys**t’s bulls**t

You are a liar. If you have the membership roll of any Independent Fundamental Baptist Church, then prove it. Name the church, its location, its phone number and list five of its members. Then I’ll call its pastor and ask him if he reveals his membership roll to anyone.

” You are a liar. If you have the membership roll of any Independent Fundamental Baptist Church, then prove it. Name the church, its location, its phone number and list five of its members. Then I’ll call its pastor and ask him if he reveals his membership roll to anyone ”

No Brys**t … tis you that are the liar . And up to you to prove me wrong .

And why would I reveal the private information of anyone or any church online for all to see and abuse when that would be both immoral .. as well as illegal ?

Ehhh s**t for brains ?

Sigh .. seriously Brys**t … get it thru your thick deranged little troll head … the world is not as stupid as you are

” Yeah, that’s what I thought. Just more of your BS lies. Which is all you have ”

Nice try Brys**t .. for a deranged preteen troll pretending to be an adult that is ..

But hey Brys**t .. since you’re so ready and willing to expose everyone else’s information … how’s about at least peaking out from behind the protection of that little screen of yours by giving us the name , city and state of the church you supposedly attend ?

By the way Brys**t … might I highly recommend you place a piece of painters tape over the camera portal on your device when playing the role of a troll online ? Cause honestly Brys**t … you are one ugly little s**t ..

2) Due to the fact that the minimum of two individuals commenting under the Gary Bryson moniker ( as well as its multiple sock puppets not in evidence here ) range in age between 10 and 15 ..( according to an in depth forensic linguistic analysis )

Makes sense. They try to sound real intelligent but when the discussion goes beyond their comprehension skills they resort to name calling and ad hominem attacks, especially towards Ms Abadie, whom they know nothing about personally to be the one to sit in that judgement seat.

True enough… Then again, as I posted above… I do like baiting trolls such poor Mr. Bryson, so when I knew that he’d be really butthurt over Roy Moore losing the elections, I deliberately told him that my partner is Black, knowing full well that he’d come back at me with all sorts of crude racists remarks, which I could then post to expose what a blatant racist he really is. Needless to say, and much to my delight, he did not disappoint me and posted some of the most racist remarks I’ve heard, (everything from that I’m a slut … to if my partner knocks me up, I should have an abortion so as not to pollute the white race).

Yes, old Roy Moore who claimed things were so much better in the good ole days. People really cared so much about each other back then even if they had slaves(sarcasm intended). I myself am from Louisiana and I am of creole descent. One of my Great Grandfathers down the line fathered children from a slave named Delilah who I am descended from. He was disinherited from the family and banished to New Orleans for that ordeal. Wonder what Bryson thinks about that. I guess I have inherited the ‘slut’ gene.

Yeah, supposed to be a die-hard KJV devoted follower of the one true God of the bible, anti-abortion unless it involves fornicating with brown-skinned people, supporter of accused pedophiles who like to dry-hump 14y/o girls with through their underwear under the pretense of teaching them about the birds and the bees(typical pedophile rationalization by-the-way– just watch any Chris Hansen re-runs), calling women he doesn’t know sluts………Yeah sir indeed that it is a real Godly man alright! And obviously he’s got a red phone line to God so that makes it all just fine and dandy since he assumes his
“true believer status” awards him a get-out-of-hell-free card. Can say and do anything he wants and it’s all peaches and cream with Jesus and Sky Daddy.

Stacey… Indeed are real “godly ‘white’ man alright!” What is so hypocritical of these bible thumping racists, is that Jesus was NOT Caucasian, and while there are instances where interfaith relationships are scorned upon, there is nothing in the bible that prohibits interracial relationships. Quite the contrary…

First Trump bends over backwards to get Philip Anschutz’s lapdog Goresuch nominated to the Supreme Court … but then the minute Goresuch starts acting like a Supreme Court Justice rather than another Trump arschkussen Yes Man … Trump regrets that he did

Well Donnie Drumpf … bad news fro you fat boy … even a POTUS cannot unnominate a Supreme Court Justice once that justice’s nomination has been confirmed

3) Oh but yes … I do believe in the climate change that even the US Military believes in and fears more than anything

4) And though I do not endorse all things LGBTQ .. as a Biblical Christian following the example of Christ himself I do tolerate and live in peace with them

5) Do not support abortion but once again tolerate its existence because the sin falls upon the one committing the sin .. not myself .. not to mention the alternatives … illegal abortions that would kill bot the mother and the fetus … being worse than legal abortion

6) And ahhh … Brys**t … I am one of those ‘ rich ‘ people

7) And yes I do as any thinking discerning cognizant human being with at least half a brain hate Trump .. and have done so since his emergence into the public eye in the 70’s

8) And ahhh … Brys**t .. I was a registered Republican up until the RNC forced the idiot Sarah Palin onto McCain’s ticket . And even after that I became an Independent .. voting for the better candidate regardless of party … but no longer since the GOP has sold its soul to the Breitbart neo fascism alt right .

Brys**t .. I have to be honest . You never cease to amaze me when it comes to the depths of your stupidity .

Why do I say that ? Because every time I lay one of my traps for you … I think to myself … ” oh … this time he/she/it will figure it out or a friend will advise him/her/it so he/she/it can avoid it ”

And yet … each and every time .. like the precision clockworks of the fine Swiss watch on my wrist … there you are … falling for all my traps … Hook , Line & Sinker .. to the point where the challenge is almost all but disappeared … because ..

.. your overall stupidity and gullibility are so absolutely dependable

…. and yet Brys**t … despite it all …. just like like clockwork … here you are again … falling right into the same old traps .. like the arrogant little deranged fool that you… or should that be … y’all … are .

Bigotry and Racism is when an emotionally immature individual addled by fear and/or envy of any one or more groups that differ from them in any way and is confined by their immaturity to expressing that fear and/envy with expression of hatred

or alternatively

When an emotionally immature ( and usually uneducated ) individual playing the role of the victim looking for a scapegoat for which to blame all their problems that they have created themselves chooses a scapegoat based on heritage , creed , religion or color … using those differences to justify them blaming the other for all their problems

The scapegoat principal is also used as a propaganda tool by those seeking power in order to lure in the uneducated and emotionally immature over to their side

” I asked abadie, not you. Or, could it be you and abadie are the same person ??? ”

Projecting again are we Brys**t ? Not to mention exposing your 10 year old little girl self again . Suffice it to say though sparkless .. the only one out of desperation in need of sock puppets …

.. is … You !

But hey … thanks for playing … again . And on that note . Remember once when you told me you do not play by my rules ?

Well sparkless …. hate to be the bearer of bad news … but you do … each every time you fall for one of my ploys and tactics .. which is constantly and consistently and as predictable as the rain in Seattle … fact is … you’re as obedient as a well trained puppy dog . Woof !

Margaret, regarding your Jesus not being caucasian above, if he showed up today, they wouldn’t even recognize him. They would probably regard him as a would-be terrorist and rapist. Not the kind of man some of the “godly evangelicals in America” would allow in America yet they don’t mind bowing down to pedophiles and an orange, narcissistic, wanna-be-a-dictator-like-Putin baboon.

Stacey…. It’s never been about neither Jesus nor God with these folks. That is just a mask they wear to conceal that it’s always been about White power. Not that they’ll ever admit it though… But that’s OK. Their days are numbered and they know it. Within less than 50 years, or less if they pass their anti-abortion agenda, the majority of this country’s population will be of mixed race.

Margarita, you know my Great-grandfather on my mother’s paternal side was both member of the KKK and a local deacon in the baptist church. Loathsome man he was. It was nothing in the day to marry the 2 opposing ideologies together and still be considered a “godly” church man. I thought society had grown past that garbage-obviously not. That’s why they sent my Great, Great, Great grandfather who impregnated his slave(my Great, Great, Great Grandmother) into exile in New Orleans and erased him from the geneology record–at least for a few years. Kind of like Hitler not wanting to admit he had Jewish blood.

Who you elect as your leader is a direct reflection of your people. And their are a lot of sick, bigoted folks here in America hiding under the guise of God, Christianity(albeit a bastardized version), and the flag. And by God if you don’t fall in line with their twisted beliefs then they got their guns to put you in line. That’s the fear you live under in the south especially if you don’t hold their views and why it is so difficult to speak out here. I always knew before the election that there was an element of this that existed. After the election, I was shocked at the degree of closeted racists that were crawling out of the wood works. How we turn this around in the south and bring in the decency and goodness I don’t know. Doug Jones election has given me hope that it still exists. I also have relatives that live all over Alabama on my Dad’s side and many of them who voted for Jones did not want to see their state’s reputation go down the toilet and be the butt of America’s jokes. So proud of them!

I’ve thought about it since I have relatives out in Carlsbad and San Diego. I probably would like it out there. Won’t have deal with the Southern good- ole- boy network down here. At the same time there are lot’s of other things that are non-politically related that I would miss about Louisiana culture like the food. No crawfish in San Diego-that would be a bummer!

Stacey… Being that I am in an interracial relationship, I of course and no stranger to being the recipient of hate speech. Over the years, I’ve been called everything from whore, bitch, coon trash, nigger lover/twat/cunt/whore/bitch/mamma…, black barbie, criminal factory, ghetto trash, among many other slurs. Overall on average about 7 times a year give or take which was not too bad, all things considered. Then from 2008 right up to the elections, I was barely insulted at all.

Then whoosh in came Drumph! And overnight, that rate increased up to 40 + insults a month! To where I’ve even received a few death threats on Facebook, during the first few months of Drumph’s presidency.

Having said that, with the exception of Bryson, things started calming down once the “resistance movement” got up and running, and the nation became horrified at the senseless killing of Heather Hayer in the Charlottesville terror attack, and Drumph’s callous respose to the tragedy.

That was very kind of Charlottesville to do that for her. I heard she was very vocal in her personal life about rights for the marginalized. I’ve always been that way too and won’t hesitate to speak my mind if I witness someone being discriminated against or mistreated. I’ve always had that warrior gene in me when it comes to protecting the vulnerable.

I’ve never dated interacially (not that I wouldn’t in the future), but I remember several years ago having to take an African-American co-worker home from work when he had car trouble. We made plans to stop by McDonald’s on the way home. It was just a mile from work, but in that short time we were given the middle finger by guys in 2 different red neck trucks and then when we were in McDonald’s 2 constructions guys walked in, making mock spitting motions towards us and turned around and walked out in disgust. I turned to my co-worker and was like WTF. He was married to a white woman himself and said “Oh, it’s nothing unusual. I’m used to it.” So sad.

Another occasion, I was going to dinner with a gay friend and he was recognized by a local gang of homophobic thugs while we were at a stoplight. We spent a harrowing 2 hours being chased by these thugs and they tried to run us off the interstate several times. We got them for attempted assault with a deadly weapon(their sports car). So I definitely understand the nastiness of bigotry.

Heather Heyer was indeed very vocal in her lifetime, but never violent, and she sure did not deserve to be killed in such a brutal manner. It also boggles the mind the extent of the hypocrisy of these so-called Christian folks, who are so horrified when a Muslim runs over people with a car to the point that they want to ban any Muslim from entering the country for fear that they may be terrorists, and yet, when a White Supremacist runs over people with a car, they call it an “incident” as opposed to an act of terrorism.

I too have always had the warrior instinct, and I’m currently involved with a few resistance organizations such as Move On and also donate to Southern Poverty Law Center when I have a few extra dollars to spare.

As for being in an interracial relationship, as your experience has taught you, it can at times be hard, particularly if you are a white woman with a black man. These white supremacists are not only racists, but they are also extremely sexist. As in, if a white man is seen with a black woman, they see it as the guy is just looking to get his rocks off. Now if a black man is seen with a white woman… Watch out! They react as if someone is stealing their livestock from them! So much so, that since Drumph became POTUS… I’ve had to change my marital status on my Facebook page to single and delete my partner’s name for our own safety… The insults and threats became a tad bit too much! Not that I feel insulted (I’m virtually immune to insults) or take what they say personally… But the threats are a different matter. So we’ve decided to better play it safe than be sorry…

Margarita, it was ugly and scary to experience that. White people don’t realize how bad it is until you are in those situations yourself and then you feel the fear and terror that minority groups experience on a regular basis. After getting chased for several hours by the white thugs who had bags over their heads w/eyes cut out of them, I remember my brother and I getting vile prank phone calls from one of them for several months afterwords saying things like they wanted to perform lewd sexual acts on my brother(who is not gay). My brother even had all his tires slashed on his vehicle st school by the lead thug after my brother dared to confront him about trying to run me and my friend down. All because one of my best friends was a gay man.

It sure is ugly and scary in a very insidious way. Then again, such experiences sure are eye-openers. Making for once you’ve walked in a minority person’s shoes… There is no turning back! Between you and me, for as harrowing as things can sometimes get, I can’t say that I regret any of it, as it has given me awareness and enlightenment, and in no uncertain terms made me face reality. People can call me whatever they want, but the one thing I am not… Is deluded! Trust me, I have seen and experienced the very best and worst of what humans are capable of, and as such, I am very capable of making a very concise differentiation of what is good and bad… right and wrong. And what those white supremacists bastard low lives did to you and your friend and family is wrong! Egregiously so!!! And they have the audacity and arrogance to call themselves Christians! Yeah… RIGHT!!!

No, it’s just a run-of-the-mill baptist church. Guy now has that fake, southern evangelist accent that all fake evangelists have no matter where they live. They could live in Brooklyn, NY and still sound like that.