OMG! A single man after getting screwed over for the umpteenth time by a woman has one too many and hooks up with someone in a bar! The indecency! Just like how a victim of child abuse is considered a porn star!

So...you missed that the "Rafe is a whore" thing was sarcasm being used to make a larger point, huh?

elci525

Jan 31 2013, 09:36 PM

six

Jan 31 2013, 07:17 PM

Vicky4Mimi

Jan 31 2013, 06:41 PM

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sixThe discussion started due to Rafe going from Sami to bar woman. Those events aren't months apart. They might not even be weeks apart.

Rafe finds someone in a bar--{and from what it sounds like,she's not a stranger], AFTER Sami already slept with EJ (from what the spoilers say) Go back as far as Deadbabysex which was a very slutty thing to do, for sure. Then she had Lucas, then going after EJ and Rafe like a dog in heat, all while the left out guy thought she was thinking of him. I know EJ was being very dense today, but he should have felt really really stupid not knowing all that was going on behind his back from New Years Eve till now. It's laughable, but Sami is still very much a slut,skank,hoe, easy.....etc.

Oh yeah, and Lucas even said "its Rafe on Thursday and Ej on Monday" or whatever days he said--even the writers see it and are making light of her sluttyness.

What does that have to do with the point that we're not talking about two events that happen months apart? NM. I'm basically finished going back and forth on this, because I know for a fact that if it had been Sami instead of Rafe in this position, it would be called slutty, whorish, behavior.

For what it's worth if it's worth anything, if Sami had the same character history as Rafe, or more specifically had been involved with just as many men or not as he has women in so many years, and had a hook-up after a most blow-outy break-up, I would not be calling her a slut or a whore or even fickle or a tease. And this is why I think years of Sami's "i love you no him no i am marrying him but fight for me i love you but here i am ready to kiss someone else" behavior is comparable to Rafe's ONS after almost sexing and getting back together with Sami.

And just a couple more cents to throw out there: Yes I suppose you have to have sex to be a slut, and I even said in an earlier post that she was probably a tease more than anything and that is what frustrated me about her. But to be honest, for me, it was never the amount of sex she was having that made me think the writing for Sami was borderline slutty. It was always more about Sami's "emotions" or "affections" I thought she was slutty with, if that makes any sense. I tried to get at this in my earlier post, about thinking that Sami doesn't really care when she professes to care about her men. It's like these feelings of hers have been so worked and overworked and worked again, and changed and interchanged and cycled through and flipped, that I consider them, I dunno, cheapened I guess. And I can't really take anything "heartfelt" from her seriously. I understand she can be torn and confused and it's possible to love more than one person deeply in one's lifetime. But at this point all of that has just lost all its sincerity or integrity for me, and thus so has Sami. That's just my feeling anyway.

FWIW, I'm not saying everyone would be calling her names if the tables were turned.

lysie

Jan 31 2013, 09:41 PM

six

Jan 31 2013, 09:22 PM

lysie

Jan 31 2013, 08:58 PM

six

Jan 31 2013, 07:17 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepRafe finds someone in a bar--{and from what it sounds like,she's not a stranger], AFTER Sami already slept with EJ

I'd have a problem with it if it were Sami because in 20 years, these kind of hook ups haven't really been her thing. When Rafe starts having a spoiler involving him making out and trying to sex up a different woman every week like Sami has for the last several months, I'll think it's comparable. Except I probably won't think about it at all because there's no way I'm watching that.

And it's not just Sami that gets this kind of bashing. I'd like to introduce you to Jennifer and Daniel.

LOL, I'd like to introduce you to me; one of the people who defends Jennifer and Daniel against these very complaints quite often.