BillCo:It's Chicago, what do you expect from a city whose political leaders think that all of their problems would go away if they could only make every gun not in the hands of a policeman magically disappear. The liberals in charge of the zoo don't want to face the socio-economic issues that make it a festering shiathole of unrest and racial hate.

Sadly, we have a president with the same attitude.

i don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying, but you're really reaching to squeeze this one in here.

BillCo:It's Chicago, what do you expect from a city whose political leaders think that all of their problems would go away if they could only make every gun not in the hands of a policeman magically disappear. The liberals in charge of the zoo don't want to face the socio-economic issues that make it a festering shiathole of unrest and racial hate.

I didn't bother reading the mainstream msm media article, but this is just what you can expect when that sort of thing happens. If those moral cripple in charge of things would stop making things worse for these people, he might have been able to rob an Applebee's.

The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement. You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Paul Baumer:The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement. You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Truly, the greatest threat America has ever faced.

This kid will clearly never amount to anything. He will be a burden and danger to society for the rest of his likely (fortunately) short life. What do you see as the positive aspect of his presence? Other than your self congratulatory pat on the back making your heart flutter...

Paul Baumer:The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement. You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Truly, the greatest threat America has ever faced.

This is Chicago. I don't think you'll find many conservative anywhere near there.

Silly Jesus:Paul Baumer: The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement. You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Truly, the greatest threat America has ever faced.

This kid will clearly never amount to anything. He will be a burden and danger to society for the rest of his likely (fortunately) short life. What do you see as the positive aspect of his presence? Other than your self congratulatory pat on the back making your heart flutter...

I don't know why you hate him - you have so much in common. Neither of you gives a damn about anyone but yourselves.

The most humane thing to do, for him and society, would be to slip some sleeping pills into his juvenile hall food. The, once he's asleep, drag him to a tub of water and hold his head in it until you're sure he won't be waking up.

This poor child was probably groomed since birth to be hyper aggressive and mean, like a pit bull. Too bad the only way to cure this kid is with a shot of pentobarbital. If I lived in Chicago, I would volunteer to push the plunger.

Paul Baumer:Silly Jesus: Paul Baumer: The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement. You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Truly, the greatest threat America has ever faced.

This kid will clearly never amount to anything. He will be a burden and danger to society for the rest of his likely (fortunately) short life. What do you see as the positive aspect of his presence? Other than your self congratulatory pat on the back making your heart flutter...

I don't know why you hate him - you have so much in common. Neither of you gives a damn about anyone but yourselves.

Paul Baumer:The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement. You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

MJMaloney187:Paul Baumer: The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement. You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Truly, the greatest threat America has ever faced.

If all conservatives died off, would that make you happy?

I'd rather they took an interest in being fully functioning members of society, instead of just taking the good bits without doing their part for the common good.

Paul Baumer:The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement. You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Truly, the greatest threat America has ever faced.

If I were Emperor, I'd build state-run foster homes out in the desert, 50 miles away from the nearest city. There'd be a school, infirmary, mess hall, dorms, vocational workshops. It'd be run by the many young teachers who genuinely want to make a difference - those same teachers we've laid off by the droves in recent years. They'd live there, too.These kids would get education, discipline, and respect for self and others. The use of force would be allowed, though not to abuse. Regular visits from the red cross or whatever NGO would like to take on the role of monitoring. kids would be allowed to stay until they are 25. their families lose all rights to the kids.teachers would be paid 85,000 a year, with free room, board, and transportation stipend.all of this would be very expensive. I'd say that it'd cost as much to run a prison to run one of these academies. but it would sure as hell be a lot cheaper than our current way of dealing with the problem.

Silly Jesus:Paul Baumer: Silly Jesus: Paul Baumer: The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement. You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Truly, the greatest threat America has ever faced.

This kid will clearly never amount to anything. He will be a burden and danger to society for the rest of his likely (fortunately) short life. What do you see as the positive aspect of his presence? Other than your self congratulatory pat on the back making your heart flutter...

I don't know why you hate him - you have so much in common. Neither of you gives a damn about anyone but yourselves.

Yet, you wanted to have sympathy for him. Strange, man.

It's called enlightened self-interest, not sympathy. But it's a concept that doesn't revolve around narcissism so I doubt you are familiar.

Paul Baumer:Silly Jesus: Paul Baumer: Silly Jesus: Paul Baumer: The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement. You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Truly, the greatest threat America has ever faced.

This kid will clearly never amount to anything. He will be a burden and danger to society for the rest of his likely (fortunately) short life. What do you see as the positive aspect of his presence? Other than your self congratulatory pat on the back making your heart flutter...

I don't know why you hate him - you have so much in common. Neither of you gives a damn about anyone but yourselves.

Yet, you wanted to have sympathy for him. Strange, man.

It's called enlightened self-interest, not sympathy. But it's a concept that doesn't revolve around narcissism so I doubt you are familiar.

So removing him from society now would be bad why? Oh enlightened one.

Silly Jesus:Paul Baumer: Silly Jesus: Paul Baumer: Silly Jesus: Paul Baumer: The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement. You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Truly, the greatest threat America has ever faced.

This kid will clearly never amount to anything. He will be a burden and danger to society for the rest of his likely (fortunately) short life. What do you see as the positive aspect of his presence? Other than your self congratulatory pat on the back making your heart flutter...

I don't know why you hate him - you have so much in common. Neither of you gives a damn about anyone but yourselves.

Yet, you wanted to have sympathy for him. Strange, man.

It's called enlightened self-interest, not sympathy. But it's a concept that doesn't revolve around narcissism so I doubt you are familiar.

So removing him from society now would be bad why? Oh enlightened one.

Conservative Orthodoxy: If it doesn't make my life cheaper or easier, I'm not interested.

Paul Baumer:Silly Jesus: Paul Baumer: Silly Jesus: Paul Baumer: Silly Jesus: Paul Baumer: The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement. You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Truly, the greatest threat America has ever faced.

This kid will clearly never amount to anything. He will be a burden and danger to society for the rest of his likely (fortunately) short life. What do you see as the positive aspect of his presence? Other than your self congratulatory pat on the back making your heart flutter...

I don't know why you hate him - you have so much in common. Neither of you gives a damn about anyone but yourselves.

Yet, you wanted to have sympathy for him. Strange, man.

It's called enlightened self-interest, not sympathy. But it's a concept that doesn't revolve around narcissism so I doubt you are familiar.

So removing him from society now would be bad why? Oh enlightened one.

Conservative Orthodoxy: If it doesn't make my life cheaper or easier, I'm not interested.

Why should I bother with a more complete response? You have no interest. An 'argument' is a search for truth. You are bonded to your amorality far too tightly for anyone to convince you otherwise. I'd call you anti-social, but I don't think you are actively against society per se - it's just a nuisance you have to deal with from time to time, like gum on your shoe. There is no particular virtue to it other than what it can do for you, and those times it asks for you to give back, you simply ignore it and complain that it's impinging on your freedom.

Why should I bother with a more complete response? You have no interest. An 'argument' is a search for truth. You are bonded to your amorality far too tightly for anyone to convince you otherwise. I'd call you anti-social, but I don't think you are actively against society per se - it's just a nuisance you have to deal with from time to time, like gum on your shoe. There is no particular virtue to it other than what it can do for you, and those times it asks for you to give back, you simply ignore it and complain that it's impinging on your freedom.

Why should I bother with a more complete response? You have no interest. An 'argument' is a search for truth. You are bonded to your amorality far too tightly for anyone to convince you otherwise. I'd call you anti-social, but I don't think you are actively against society per se - it's just a nuisance you have to deal with from time to time, like gum on your shoe. There is no particular virtue to it other than what it can do for you, and those times it asks for you to give back, you simply ignore it and complain that it's impinging on your freedom.

Why do you want this person to be a part of society?

You know, what I love best about your handle is that it's a metaphor for your ilk - constantly invoking His name, despite not agreeing with Him about much.

Paul Baumer:The willingness to discard kids as "trash" is part and parcel of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement. You never saw a group more interested in themselves and less interested in country, society, or even basic human decency in your life. "Personal Responsibility" is just "not my problem, man" with a bow wrapped around it.

Truly, the greatest threat America has ever faced.

The moral decay of America is not a strictly conservative problem - it's a religious one. As more and more of America has moved away from religious values, this type of problem has become more and more common throughout.

After all, how many Altar Boys do you know that are members of gangs? How many gang members in general do you see that attend church every Sunday? Sure, there are exceptions, but they are exceptions - not the rule (and I'm sure that more than a few of them only go, kicking and screaming the entire way, because their parents drag them by the ear). :)

Now, I'm certainly not condoning religion, or saying that if you don't go, you're going to burn in hell!!, I'm just pointing out that as religion becomes less prevalent, violence in society is becoming MORE prevalent. I consider myself Christian, and I attempt to live up to the ideals, but heck, the last time I stepped in an actual church was probably 5+ years ago.