That is not actually true. For instance, I know of a few kids who had a bovine protein allergy when they were very young (it tends to go away before the kid turns two, often earlier), and their mothers can't eat anything that has a trace of beef or milk as long as they're breastfeeding.

This - but you still have to admit it is a small percentage, and in that case it's very important that the mother pays strict attention to her diet. In the vegan case, sadly, the mother is withholding important nutrition from their children for the sake of a made up principle - on a smaller scale but not unlike belonging to a religion that won't allow you to take a sick child to a doctor for a fatal but treatable disease.

That is not actually true. For instance, I know of a few kids who had a bovine protein allergy when they were very young (it tends to go away before the kid turns two, often earlier), and their mothers can't eat anything that has a trace of beef or milk as long as they're breastfeeding.

This - but you still have to admit it is a small percentage, and in that case it's very important that the mother pays strict attention to her diet. In the vegan case, sadly, the mother is withholding important nutrition from their children for the sake of a made up principle - on a smaller scale but not unlike belonging to a religion that won't allow you to take a sick child to a doctor for a fatal but treatable disease.

My daughter spent 2 weeks in the hospital after being born. Whatever the doctors said, we agreed with, because they were the best at what they do and obviously smarter than us when it came to the situation.

I could not fathom what kind of garbage these docs have to go through with crunchy granola parents who want to do "natural" things with their kid. UGH.

YixilTesiphon:Pray 4 Mojo: nocturnal001: Smeggy Smurf: Bathia_Mapes: Just for the record, vegans do not object to breastfeeding.

Blatent hipocracy.

Ehh, not sure about that one.

Isn't the whole Vegan thing about not imposing harm to other animals? Breastfeeding your own baby is voluntary, milking a cow isn't really voluntary.

My bigger question is how many Vegans have cats or dogs? Do they feed them soyfood?

Had an acquaintance many moons ago that was a "Raw Foodist"... whatever the fark that is. He had two Dobermans that he fed oranges and avocados and shiat. Asshole. The dogs were always way too skinny and pretty listless.

/We snuck them cans of Alpo or Pedigree at every opportunity.

Beef isn't raw food?

Raw beef is raw food, but it doesn't play well with the human digestive and immune systems. Trying to apply that to dogs is just plain psychotic, though: canines are well-adapted for eating raw meat.

LordBeavis:theorellior: gopher321: Silverstone has been rather vocal about her unique parenting style since the birth of her son, Bear Blu

I have an acquaintance who named her son "Bear". I don't quite get the logic, but whatevs. So far I've resisted the urge to say things like, "Feeling cranky and fussy? Better drink my own piss!"

The name "Bear" is fine and dandy in the ghey community. Let's hope the kid doesn't turn out to be a twink, though, or it could get confusing.

A.W./Gave my kids names AND instructions: "You don't like your name? That's the worst thing I've ever done to you? Well, first of all, that makes me the greatest mother the planet has ever known. Second, the minute you turn 18 you can change it, so go ahead. It's just a name"

PsyLord:FTA: The idea, she explained, stemmed from an email she received from a friend and new mom, who said she simply wasn't producing enough milk and couldn't trust that those offering donor milk shared the strict vegan diet.

How would her site screen for those donating milk to be strict vegans?

fanbladesaresharp:Oldiron_79: Pocket Ninja: Using another woman's breast milk to feed your baby? This has never been done in the history of ever. We're breaking new ground here, people.

Guess people never heard of nursemaids back before formula was invented.

Except that Alicia is slapping a new label on a dog and pony show that's probably been around since we started walking upright and calling it "new and improved". I just see it as an amusingly vapid solution to a non problem....wait.....I mean an entirely invented lifestyle.

It'll be interesting to see the first disease vector lawsuit.

nocturnal001:My bigger question is how many Vegans have cats or dogs? Do they feed them soyfood?

MattyFridays:My daughter spent 2 weeks in the hospital after being born. Whatever the doctors said, we agreed with, because they were the best at what they do and obviously smarter than us when it came to the situation.

I could not fathom what kind of garbage these docs have to go through with crunchy granola parents who want to do "natural" things with their kid. UGH.

Pray 4 Mojo:nocturnal001: Smeggy Smurf: Bathia_Mapes: Just for the record, vegans do not object to breastfeeding.

Blatent hipocracy.

Ehh, not sure about that one.

Isn't the whole Vegan thing about not imposing harm to other animals? Breastfeeding your own baby is voluntary, milking a cow isn't really voluntary.

My bigger question is how many Vegans have cats or dogs? Do they feed them soyfood?

Had an acquaintance many moons ago that was a "Raw Foodist"... whatever the fark that is. He had two Dobermans that he fed oranges and avocados and shiat. Asshole. The dogs were always way too skinny and pretty listless.

/We snuck them cans of Alpo or Pedigree at every opportunity.

Wow, I was thinking of switching my cat over to raw food for the nutrition, but something more along the lines of meats, not the ingredients for my salad.

MattyFridays:My daughter spent 2 weeks in the hospital after being born. Whatever the doctors said, we agreed with, because they were the best at what they do and obviously smarter than us when it came to the situation.

I do not agree with this sentiment at all. Doctors and hospitals have their own agendas that may not coincide with the patient's needs. For instance, did you try to have a natural (drug-free) birth?

We have a 1 year old, and every couple in our Bradley class that delivered in a hospital did not get the desired drug-free birth. Zero for nine.

mama2tnt:LordBeavis: theorellior: gopher321: Silverstone has been rather vocal about her unique parenting style since the birth of her son, Bear Blu

I have an acquaintance who named her son "Bear". I don't quite get the logic, but whatevs. So far I've resisted the urge to say things like, "Feeling cranky and fussy? Better drink my own piss!"

The name "Bear" is fine and dandy in the ghey community. Let's hope the kid doesn't turn out to be a twink, though, or it could get confusing.

A.W./Gave my kids names AND instructions: "You don't like your name? That's the worst thing I've ever done to you? Well, first of all, that makes me the greatest mother the planet has ever known. Second, the minute you turn 18 you can change it, so go ahead. It's just a name"

In many places you can change your name before you turn 18, though the rules are someone different and I think parental approval is required. The rules vary from state to state within the USA, and I have no idea how it works outside the USA. But assuming your child expresses a real desire to change her name before she turns 18, you might want to look into it.

Any time an article mentions Miam Bialik's parenting it should also mention that her marriage collapsed. There is no reason why you should have a 4yr old in bed every night nursing when you have a perfectly fine husband willing to do the same.

I have no interest in how an adult chooses to live and eat for themselves, but if your lifestyle prohibits you from providing your child with sufficient nourishment, that is nature's way of telling you that you are unfit as a parent.

We're expecting in November and the thing I am most worried about is immunization nutters transmitting disease to my child. SCIENCE IS REAL. Damn.

Luckily I don't think there are too many of those in Pennsylvania, but still.

Can't you not attend school without immunization records? Isn't that part of the enrollment process?

My understanding is that schools aren't very good about enforcing that. (No idea, this will be my first.) My concern is that some dumbass's baby will get a disease from their older sibling while my baby hasn't been vaccinated yet (since they can't handle all vaccinations immediately), and then the daycare will get infected.

YixilTesiphon:Had an acquaintance many moons ago that was a "Raw Foodist"... whatever the fark that is. He had two Dobermans that he fed oranges and avocados and shiat. Asshole. The dogs were always way too skinny and pretty listless.

/We snuck them cans of Alpo or Pedigree at every opportunity.

Beef isn't raw food?

Don't ask me... I mean... yes... I know raw beef is raw food... but that's not what this dumbfark fed his dogs. I don't know the rules of "Raw Foodism"... and frankly... I don't care to learn.

PsyLord:FTA: The idea, she explained, stemmed from an email she received from a friend and new mom, who said she simply wasn't producing enough milk and couldn't trust that those offering donor milk shared the strict vegan diet.

How would her site screen for those donating milk to be strict vegans?

tuna fingers:MattyFridays: My daughter spent 2 weeks in the hospital after being born. Whatever the doctors said, we agreed with, because they were the best at what they do and obviously smarter than us when it came to the situation.

I do not agree with this sentiment at all. Doctors and hospitals have their own agendas that may not coincide with the patient's needs. For instance, did you try to have a natural (drug-free) birth?

We have a 1 year old, and every couple in our Bradley class that delivered in a hospital did not get the desired drug-free birth. Zero for nine.

We had a home birth to avoid that.

You know what? We were all ra ra drug free, and then the first labor was HARD. Hard on he baby, hard on my wife, to the point where it was about to go c-section because both were exhausted. When you can see it on the fetal heart monitor due to the complications, it kind of matters to you.

The drugs helped a shiat ton at that point.

Yeah, it would be nice if the babby didn't get drugged out too, but modern medicine is a good thing.

I'm not saying everyone should be 100% pro-drug for delivery, but people also shouldn't rule it out. There's a reason why fewer mothers & children die during childbirth today than in years gone by.

/second child was so fast, he came out before the drug question even came up

theorellior:gopher321: Silverstone has been rather vocal about her unique parenting style since the birth of her son, Bear Blu

I have an acquaintance who named her son "Bear". I don't quite get the logic, but whatevs. So far I've resisted the urge to say things like, "Feeling cranky and fussy? Better drink my own piss!"

Reminds me of a punchline for a joke. I forget the full flow of the joke narrative but it essentially had to do with Indian women competing to have the strongest son with the chief by conceiving on rugs made of animal hides. Bear was the best because, "The son of the squa on the one hide is equal to the sons of the squas on the other two hides."

If you aren't able to produce enough milk to breast feed your kids, maybe being vegan isn't all that "natural" or "healthy"? Think about it for awhile, people.

Even many non-vegan mothers have milk-production issues, so it's not alway diet. But if your lifestyle leaves you unable to supplement low milk supply with formula, then you are making poor choices for your child.

MagicBoris:factoryconnection: "I care enough about my baby to breastfeed it and seek out extra milk when I can't produce, but not so much that I'll accept any from someone that might have eaten some cheese in the last decade."

Is this to make sure that the kids don't get any veterinary antibiotics or hormones? Because the proteins and fats in breastmilk are generated from broken-down food nutrients in the mom's body... there isn't any "cow" left in the milk.

I guess this makes it 100% clear that her kids are raised vegan as well. Hmmm...

That is not actually true. For instance, I know of a few kids who had a bovine protein allergy when they were very young (it tends to go away before the kid turns two, often earlier), and their mothers can't eat anything that has a trace of beef or milk as long as they're breastfeeding.

My son had a dairy milk allergy. While she was breastfeeding she had to avoid any cow milk. Goat milk and beef meat was fine.

The FA is still odd though. Many women do not make enough breastmilk, you just supplement with formula. No need to get other titties involved.