Since there's a Japanese hardcore punk appreciation thread, I figured it would be ok to make this one. I'd like to limit the discussion to hardcore so try to avoid talking about grind, crust, and powerviolence here.

I'm sure there are posters here who dislike punk in general but hardcore's influence on the development of metal is undeniable. I'm personally of the opinion that metal would never have progressed past the intensity of Judas Priest if it weren't for the influence of the fast youthful energy of the 80s hardcore punk scene. Many hardcore acts also arguably gave birth to the gruff vocal style that became commonplace in extreme metal.

There has also been some great stuff coming out of Canada over the past couple of years that I'd recommend. Urban Blight, Bad Choice, Kremlin, Violent Future, and S.H.I.T. are some great bands to check out for anyone interested.

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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:11 am Post subject:

I don't care too much for stuff like Jerry's Kids or Negative Approach, its boring music and it just goes in one ear and out the other like the talentless crap it is. Some of those Youth crew groups though are great because they actually included faster riffs with the group vocals and metallic elements, stuff like Chain of Strength, Bold, Floorpunch, and Youth of today I love. Of course the obvious mentions of Black flag and Agent Orange apply, but my main love is the heavier stuff like Merauder, 25 Ta life, Ringworm, Integrity, Madball, and Billy club sandwich that gets my adrenaline going. Hardcore is my second favorite style of music, its just a matter of finding out which early 80's bands are worth more anything._________________

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2. It's unhealthy to not be able to name an actor or pop-culture figure but be able to name 88 Romanian black metal projects off the top of your head. It screams Rain Man.

I don't care too much for stuff like Jerry's Kids or Negative Approach, its boring music and it just goes in one ear and out the other like the talentless crap it is. Some of those Youth crew groups though are great because they actually included faster riffs with the group vocals and metallic elements, stuff like Chain of Strength, Bold, Floorpunch, and Youth of today I love. Of course the obvious mentions of Black flag and Agent Orange apply, but my main love is the heavier stuff like Merauder, 25 Ta life, Ringworm, Integrity, Madball, and Billy club sandwich that gets my adrenaline going. Hardcore is my second favorite style of music, its just a matter of finding out which early 80's bands are worth more anything.

We're on opposite wavelengths. A lot of those bands just sound like punkier metalcore to me.

Love a lot of hardcore of all eras and a lot of my friends are involved in it one way or another- but it works far better for me in the live environment than it does on record. I rarely listen to hardcore nowadays other than at shows and I'm slowly getting rid of the collection...

I can at least understand where you're coming from there. Hardcore generally isn't as timeless or profound as the most classic of metal albums (hence why I prefer metal at the end of the day) but I definitely like it enough to keep buying albums and demo tapes. It's a simple, maybe even mindless, and to-the-point outburst of aggression and that's why I like it. Live or otherwise.