Could you take a 5 speed off a 4.0 TJ or LJ and convert it to fit a WJ with a 4.0.. This is my first post.. just wanted to stir up an idea.. I thought they may have similar bolt up points because both transmission are made for the same engine. But knowing how stuff like this usually goes it probably isn't easy. Just wanted to ask before I get my transmission rebuilt, went out with 215k on it.. The engine is still fine and in good shape. And I plan to run my Cherokee til it dies, so I'm willing to put money into rebuilding it..

The hard part is the clutch pedal. As it never came with a stick shift. Next is the check engine light-ECM as it will be looking for response from the auto-trans and not seeing it.It will not pass a smog test if needed in your local. Longer-shorter driveshafts.
Otherwise it is a great idea.

My Auto trans is getting rebuild as we speak. I just wanted to know if it was possible, I mean they are the same engine between the two Jeeps. Just the connection between them, clutch and flywheel, will be different. I could get a Wrangler computer and install it, maybe, or reprogram my computer to think its a Wrangler transmission.

If I had a WJ, I wouldn't wheel it. They weren't designed for heavy, intentional wheeling. The front and rear approach and departure angles are terrible. The body is huge compared to my XJ, but the WJ still has the same tiny axles. The weight of the body has made my buddy look like an idiot w/ no lift and 32's. It's lifted but sagging bad.
Comfort is one thing, but for wheeling I'd rather have a ZJ at least, even though the departure angles on those ain't much better.

If I had a WJ, I wouldn't wheel it. They weren't designed for heavy, intentional wheeling. The front and rear approach and departure angles are terrible. The body is huge compared to my XJ, but the WJ still has the same tiny axles. The weight of the body has made my buddy look like an idiot w/ no lift and 32's. It's lifted but sagging bad.
Comfort is one thing, but for wheeling I'd rather have a ZJ at least, even though the departure angles on those ain't much better.

I only wheel my Jeep when I have to. I have some gripy tires on it, only a size bigger than stock, where if it needs to perform it can. Such as going out to my Cabin on its rocky trail road. The way to look at a WJ is like looking at a Wagoneer. It is made for luxury but it has the capabilities if they are needed. So I agree with you completely. If it an't made to do it stock, it isn't intended to ever do it, though anything is possible..

I only wheel my Jeep when I have to. I have some gripy tires on it, only a size bigger than stock, where if it needs to perform it can. Such as going out to my Cabin on its rocky trail road. The way to look at a WJ is like looking at a Wagoneer. It is made for luxury but it has the capabilities if they are needed. So I agree with you completely. If it an't made to do it stock, it isn't intended to ever do it, though anything is possible..

Just for the fun of it, park next to an XJ, 2 & 4 dr are the same size, and take a look at the size of the body. Taller, wider, & longer with the same wheel base. I'd leave the WJ stock, and buy an XJ to curb the fever.
I'm sure your WJ is full of bells and whistles, some mods will cause you to sacrifice some of them, mostly sensors

If I had a WJ, I wouldn't wheel it. They weren't designed for heavy, intentional wheeling. The front and rear approach and departure angles are terrible. The body is huge compared to my XJ, but the WJ still has the same tiny axles. The weight of the body has made my buddy look like an idiot w/ no lift and 32's. It's lifted but sagging bad.
Comfort is one thing, but for wheeling I'd rather have a ZJ at least, even though the departure angles on those ain't much better.

tell that to these guys

agitatedpancake:

SaturnICL:

WJs are great wheeling machines, they just a need a tad more work to get there.