Jim Rubens sits down with WMUR Political Director Josh McElveen on CloseUP.

Jim Rubens sits down with WMUR Political Director Josh McElveen on CloseUP.

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Updated: 11:42 PM EST Mar 6, 2016

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WEBVTT SINCE THAT TIME, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SPECULATING WHAT JIM RUBIN IS GOING TO DO NEXT. THE BUZZ IS YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT ANOTHER RUN FOR THE U.S. CENSUS IN A PRIMARY CHALLENGE AGAINST KELLY AYOTTE. >> RUNNING AGAINST AN INCUMBENT -- KELLY AYOTTE AND I BECAME FRIENDS. WE WORKED HARD TOGETHER. I WORKED TO GET HER ELECTED IN THE 2010 ELECTION. THE PROBLEM IS SHE HAS GONE COMPLETELY OFF THE RAILS ON THE BIG ISSUES AND SHE HAD STABBED THE BASE, SHE STABBED OUR PARTY PRINCIPLES IN THE BACK. SHE VOTED FOR A GANG OF EIGHT BOARD OF AMNESTY. SHE HAS VOTED TO REPLACE GOOD PLAYING -- GOOD PAYING JOBS WITH FOREIGNERS. SHE SAID SHE WOULD HAVE VOTED IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. SHE HAS VOTED TO LOWER TAXPAYERS WITH ANOTHER $1.5 TRILLION IN DEBT, UNSUSTAINABLE. ONE OF THREE BIG CHEERLEADERS FOR HILLARY CLINTON'S AND LISTEN NATIONBUILDING WARS. WE HAVE ISIS IN EIGHT COUNTRIES AND AMERICA IS LESS SAFE. >> YOU MADE A LOT POINTS ABOUT KELLY AYOTTE. SHE HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AMONG THE MOST BIPARTISAN SENATORS IN WASHINGTON. NOBODY CAN GET ANYTHING DONE. WHAT WOULD YOU BRING DIFFERENTLY TO THE TABLE? >> THIS IS A MATTER OF THE INSIDE BOUGHT AND PAID FOR LOBBYIST AFFECTED US ESTABLISH AND VERSUS A GOVERNMENT IN WASHINGTON THAT IS OPERATING FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE INTEREST OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THIS IS MUCH MORE BIPARTISAN THAN CAVING IN WITH OBAMA'S $1 TRILLION OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS. BIPARTISANSHIP ABANDONING CORE REPUBLICAN PRINCIPLES. AND REPRESENTING LOBBYISTS IN WASHINGTON. >> THERE WAS A STANDOFF THAT LED TO A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN. WOULD YOU HAVE BEEN MORE LONG TO TED CRUZ LINE? IF WE HAVE TO SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT, WE HAVE TO SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT. >> IN 2014 IT WAS PUBLISHED WITH ANOTHER APPROACH. A BIPARTISAN COMMISSION, SOMETHING LIKE THE BASE CLOSING COMMISSION. WORKING WITH THE PLAN TO GET THE BUDGET BALANCED AND BRING IT TO THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE FOR A NUMBER OF DOWN VOTES. THAT WAS A PLAN I PROPOSED IN 2014. IF REPUBLICANS WERE EXERCISING LEADERSHIP THEY WOULD NOT CAVING TO PRESIDENT OBAMA'S -- THEY WOULD CAVE IN TO PRESIDENT OBAMA SPAKE BIG GOVERNMENT, LOW GOVERNMENT TAXPAYERS. THESE CRAZY AND LESS, THESE NATIONBUILDING WARS. THEY ARE NOT KEEPING AMERICA SAFE. >> SOME PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE A BIT OF A STRETCH. >> BACK IN 2011, KELLY AYOTTE AND HILLARY CLINTON WERE BANGING THE DRAWN -- BANGING THE DRUM TO TAKE DOWN LIBYA. I HAVE TO SEND YOU ON MY WEBSITE FOR THIS. SPREADING TERRORISM ALL OVER THE WORLD HAS NOT WORKED. IT HAS NOT MADE AMERICA SAFE. ISIS AND AL QAEDA ARE OPERATIVE IN EIGHT COUNTRIES AS A DIRECT RESULT OF KELLY AYOTTE AND HILLARY CLINTON'S AND LET'S FAILED NATIONBUILDING APPROACH. IT IS NOT WORKING, IT IS NOT KEEPING AMERICA SAFE. >> WE WILL HAVE TO DEBATE THIS LATER. LET'S BE HONEST, KELLY AYOTTE ISN'T POPULAR THAT -- ISN'T MORE POPULAR THAN SCOTT BROWN WAS. >> HERE IS A DIFFERENT PROBLEM, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT REPUBLICANS HAVE TO CONFRONT RIGHT NOW, WE ARE LOOKING AT SIX MORE YEARS. THE ANTIESTABLISHMENT CORE BASE OF THE PARTY IS ABSOLUTELY FLAT GOING TO BOYCOTT THIS ELECTION, OR VOTE FOR AN INDEPENDENT. I AM HERE TO BRING OUR PARTY BACK TOGETHER AGAIN, BRING THE BASE AND THE ANTIESTABLISHMENT VOTE, SO WE CAN WIN THIS ELECTION AND SAVE THIS REPUBLICAN SEAT FROM REPUBLICANS. >> YOU ARE NOW IN THIS RACE, IT APPEARS TO BE READY FRAGILE. >> THERE IS A WAY TO DO THIS, RETURN OUR REPUBLICAN PARTY TO THE SERVICE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THESE VOTES FOR AMNESTY, THAT IS NOT IN SERVICE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. LOADING OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS WITH $26 TRILLION IN DEBT. >> IS DONALD TRUMP ANTIESTABLISHMENT? A BETTER CANDIDATE THAN SAY JOHN KASICH OR MARCO RUBIO? >> THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR A SERIOUS CHANGE IN THE WAY WASHINGTON DOES BUSINESS. ONE DONALD TRUMP CAMPAIGNS AND SAYS I AM MY OWN MAN, WHAT I SAY IS WHAT I MEAN, HE SAYS SOME UNTOWARD THINGS. I'M HERE TO BRING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY BACK TOGETHER AGAIN. KELLY AYOTTE IS GOING DOWN NOW. NUMBER TWO, WE NEED TO END BUSINESS AS USUAL. WE NEED TO RETURN WASHINGTON IN SERVICE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THAT IS HOW WE ARE GOING TO WIN ELECTIONS. >> WE WILL SEE HOW IT GOES MOVING FORWARD. BE RIGHT BACK WITH MIKE DENNEHY.

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Jim Rubens sits down with WMUR Political Director Josh McElveen on CloseUP.