You obviously don't remember the ugly back and forth we had. I simply wanted to warn you that you were WAY off base last year. I didn't come into your thread calling you names. I came looking to clarify some things. I called OU winning that game big. To me, it was obvious if you had watched both teams that year up until that game, and if you had followed the rivalry since Stoops' arrival.

This year? I'm not saying you are wrong. I'm certainly not predicting an OU blowout. To be honest, if they played 10 times, I don't think either team would win more than 6 of them. Like you said, Bob has owned Mack for the most part. I'm also not a big fan of Ash and his throwing abilities. And the UT defense hasn't played up to it's potential. That said, I worry about OU's tackling against the UT running backs, and I'm not sure OU can effectively pass block the two UT defensive ends.

I truly see this game as a toss up, mostly b/c I still don't think we know much about the two teams. And I'm not sure how UT will respond to losing a big home game less than a full week before the OU game kicks off. I have no problem with your UT bet, because like I said, I think the game is a toss up.

Oh I see, I don't remember but I'm sure you are correct, I get in more than my fair share of spats on here, I tend to make outrageous predictions and be a prick, its my online tough guy personality joking

anyhow, OU does hold the edge over Texas in coaching, I agree with you there for sure, I don't think much of Mack as a coach and I do think Bob is a solid coach despite the fact he has lost so many BCS games

And as for Bob Stoops, I'll take losing BCS games over not making them any day of the week. I wouldn't argue with anybody that said Saban or Urben were better coaches. But after that, after those two, Bob's resume stacks up to anybody's over the last decade+. And most know that Saban isn't running a clean program, so there is that.

Under Stoops OU has had two Heisman winners, a couple other candidates, we've set all kinds of offensive and passing records, and we've produced the highest scoring offense in history. We've sent a boat load of players to the NFL. We've won the conference nearly half the time. And for the most part, we don't lose more than 2-3 games a year. I'll take that. :)

in the grand scheme of things that is damn good, 98% of fanbases would take that as well, I just expect more from OU than I probably should, I see the kids they get from Texas every year and I always feel they have great NFL talent all over their roster, even though they have done alot under Stoops I still think he has underachieved in the big games, Oklahoma should be a top 5 program every year in my opinion, I think that's why I'm harsh on them at times

they are on par with Alabama, LSU, USC, Oregon and those types of teams as far as talent goes

As many of you know from over the years I live in Texas, many things are
wonderful here in the Lone Star state but one thing that sucks is
listening to delusional Texas fans about how good their defense is and
how great Manny Diaz is, Dana played games with the Texas coaching
staff, Geno gave them two fumbles with less than 10 yards to score both
times, their biggest night game in some time and they still got slapped,
suck on that Mack and Manny, Geno and Dana own you both and I love
every minute of it, I will remind every Texas fan I see this week how
great Manny Diaz is at making adjustments

Couldn't agree more wahoo. I moved to Austin 4 years ago and the fans here are delusional. I find it funny.

As many of you know from over the years I live in Texas, many things are wonderful here in the Lone Star state but one thing that sucks is listening to delusional Texas fans about how good their defense is and how great Manny Diaz is, Dana played games with the Texas coaching staff, Geno gave them two fumbles with less than 10 yards to score both times, their biggest night game in some time and they still got slapped, suck on that Mack and Manny, Geno and Dana own you both and I love every minute of it, I will remind every Texas fan I see this week how great Manny Diaz is at making adjustments

Couldn't agree more wahoo. I moved to Austin 4 years ago and the fans here are delusional. I find it funny.

best looking women around though, Austin is a top 5 city in the country to live in (easily)

great food, great women and its cheap compared to other great cities

its just not an intidimating football environment, WVU was in no way rattled by that wine and cheese crowd

Absolutely. It's a pretty damn good life down here for sure. The women are top notch

I will say that is the most rowdy that crowd has been in a few years. However, it most certainly is a "country club" type atmosphere around this city based on UT sports. That I can't stand. Kind of Ironic though because I work at the University of Texas Golf Club

Wahoo...Interesting read on Texas. I lost alot of respect for this team last week. I was one of the dumbasses that touted them for a sleeper to win the NC. I really thought their defense was good this year and boy was I wrong. After what Ive seen the last couple weeks I think I'm leaning with the Sooners. Mainly because of Texas and their horrible defense. I think Landry could have a big day. Still looking into it but haven't decided.

Wouldn't touch the UVA/Md game. Redshirt Soph Sims (ex Bama QB) is finally the starter. And though they got blown out in the 2nd Half @ Duke, this guy is MUCH better than Rocco (7 INTS in 3 starts).

Sims 1st college start in his Home state, Cliff Richardson (RB) will be back on the field and a bigger part of the offense, add to it the fact that it's homecoming....too many variables, I'm staying away :)

hey u guys, looking at going to austin next year, anyone recommend a good time to go? looking for a bbq cookoff or something as well! appreciate any input... and GL on ur picks wahoo, liking a few of them

got some news today regarding Texas that I didn't like, I'm not gonna post what I got because I'm not putting myself out there like that, let's just say I'm out of that play, just gave up the juice and went on my way

I have no choice but to keep Oregon St since the line will be way different now that Mannion is out of the game, surely BYU backers have to be loving their byu - 2.5 tickets now that the Beavers lost their QB, that is the price you pay for early betting at times, damn, I'll need a miracle in that one

Oregon St + 4

South Caro/LSU under 40

Alabama - 17 hook

you don't see me put up totals but I gotta pay to see both of those offenses score 20, I just don't see it

looking at many others as potential plays, should end up with 8-12 this week