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Ok, class… How many ways can you say 'illegal'?

Ok, class… How many ways can you say 'illegal'?

Arizona’s new law which aims to crack down on illegal aliens is set to take effect in just a few days. Ahead of the July 29 implementation date, lawsuits are flying, and the media are trying everything they can to draw attention to this “controversial” law. The problem is that it’s not controversial. It’s straightforward, inline with federal law, and is supported by vast majority of Arizona residents. That, of course, doesn’t stop liberals from trying to make controversy where controversy doesn’t exist.

It’s amazing what so-called journalists will do to either stir things up in their favor or tone things down in order to draw sympathy for their cause. Take this Reuters story as an example: Migrants sell up, flee Arizona ahead of crackdown. In it, we can see that it becomes a challenge for the writer to see how many different ways he can describe a person in this country illegally without actually using the word “illegal.”

The author does start off by using the phrase “illegal immigrant” at first, but even that term is misleading. If people have no intention of learning the American culture and adopting the American way of life, are they really “immigrants”? The law is described as “the toughest imposed by any U.S. state” as the reporter talks about “undocumented day laborers, landscapers, house cleaners, and chambermaids.” Chambermaids? Anyway… next we come to the phrase “unauthorized migrants,” which is a new one for me. Finally, the reporter throws in “undocumented migrants” for good measure. I guess he thought that combining his other descriptions into a new one might get the point across even more.

The entire report is completely bogus and is geared to steer the reader in a particular direction rather than simply reporting the facts. Remember when they were supposed to do that? The story deals with the premise that illegal aliens are fleeing Arizona ahead of the law, so the writer focuses on an area of Phoenix that is having “dozens of impromptu yard sales in Latino neighborhoods.” Hello! I think my mom has a yard or garage sale every single month. It doesn’t mean she’s going anywhere.

The writer’s effort to make the case that Hispanics are fleeing the state is accompanied by the admission that there “are no figures for the number who have left since the new law passed in April.” There’s much more in the story to point to a liberal bias. Please dive in and see for yourself.

Why do liberal writers put such a spin on the illegal alien issue? Because they are foaming at the mouth at the opportunity to have so many new Democrat voters. That’s what this is all about. As noted in an AP story on GOPUSA, “Democrats long have had an advantage among Hispanics and maintained it even as George W. Bush chipped away at that support. Obama erased the GOP inroads during his 2008 campaign, winning 67 percent of their vote to 31 percent for Republican nominee John McCain.”

The political power of Hispanics now and in the future cannot be overstated. They are the nation’s fastest-growing minority group and the government projects they will account for 30 percent of the population by 2050, doubling in size from today.

With the first midterm congressional elections of Obama’s presidency in three months, the poll shows a whopping 50 percent of Hispanics citizens call themselves Democrats, while just 15 percent say they are Republicans.

Republicans do need to do a better job of reaching the Hispanic community, but they need to do it not by pandering but by simply explaining why the conservative philosophy works for ALL Americans. The Democrats are creating the biggest nanny state in the history of the world, and reporters are doing everything they can to help. It’s our job to show that a smaller government with less interference means more freedom and respect for the rule of law that guides American society. It’s not a hard concept.

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Sounds like the law is working before its even implimented. With thousands of illegal aliens fleeing the state, the AZ law is already a success. However I’m sure they’re just leaving AZ not the US. Of course the propaganda wing of the Democrat Party would see this as a negative because Obama needs these illegal aliens to get registered to vote for him after he gets amnesty for them. If every state would enforce immigration law like AZ maybe the illegal aliens would leave not only AZ but also the US.
Stay Thirsty My Amigos.
Rad MC

Yeah this is just like the crap that migrant farm workers. They offered the opportunity work on a farm to show how much the Americans don’t want the jobs that they do. For one thing there is about 1 to 2 million migrant farm workers a year in America.
That number sounds like a lot but when you look into it you will find that farm work is seasonal and these workers actually are here two to four times a year making the true number of migrant workers much less than the numbers sited. I agree we need these workers, so I have no problem with them. The problem is they take good paying jobs in every field. Like construction workers Union jobs, city jobs, state jobs and if they are not being payed scale then the Labor department is helping get higher wages. The other is they most of the jobs that were traditionally held by our teenagers and college students. The latter was proved by a Government study. I didn’t need a study to determine that, all I need to do is go to any fast food place. They even are holding management positions. Don’t let anyone tell you that these are dead end jobs. I personally know two people who went to work at Carl’s Jr. in high school and the are both Millionaires now and own their Carl’s Jr. given to them by corporate.
IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!

it is important that everyone fly the Flag this Thursday and Friday, July 29 & 30, not only for Arizona, but for the rest of our nation.
Thursday, July 29, 2010 AZ Senate Bill 1070 becomes law in the Grand Canyon State. (Our state budget should be close to getting balanced after this date.)
The following day, Friday, July 30, author of SB 1070, Senator Russell Pearce will be holding a vigil at the State Capital Building in downtown Phoenix for all those murdered by illegal aliens, as well as those who have died defending this nation in the name of freedom. The vigil starts at 7pm at Wesley Bolin Plaza. Here is Senator Pearce’s inivitation: http://usconstitutionalfreepress.wordpress.com/2010/07/14/a-personal-invitation-from-russell-pearce/
Please join us as We, the People, take our country back.
Thank you.

How about CRIMINAL ALIENS, they have already committed a felony by crossing the border illegally. I hope this law is upheld, I live in Arizona, these ******** are destroying the state, the medical facilities, the social services, not to mention the diseases, and drugs, and the Mexican gang problems. The military need to secure the border with what ever means necessary, is shooting the morons is needed, so be it.

Just a quick comment, a not so, so PC comment. I wonder if we were to change the phrasology from undocumented, illegal, undocumented or unauthorized to “invaders”, if we would be willing to respond more from a defensive posture as defending our country from foreign invasion?
Just wondering.

I’m surprised that you waste your time reading Reuters, Bobby. When they are not being flagrantly biased, they are completely inaccurate. I gave up on them long ago and brought my blood pressure down 10 points.

I read this morning in our local paper that our Governor(tax and spend) is looking into the possibility of a new law which asks all Illegals, he says Immigrants to be fingerprinted. Already the Latino Caucus us throwing a fit saying that it might target someone who is innocent. A load of crap!!!!!The Governor is looking into it saying that the fingerprinting would show if these Illegals have committed a crime and if they have been deported. Well now we can’t have that happen, after all they have rights and their right since they are not a citizen is to not be fingerprinted….The Article said it could possible end up deporting or jailing at least a few thousand… maybe even as many as 30,000. Well there won’t be a worker left in the state, boo hoo. At any rate I won’t hold my breath because this Governor won’t even allow the laws already enacted to be enforced. It would be a real wake up call if he didn’t anything with all the Illegals living here in Colorado. They come and go and do their dirty work. We just had 29 of the Mexican Mafia arrested on the Western Slope. I wonder how many more, oh by the way thats another way of saying Illegal. The Mexican Mafia. the word for the day.

Everybody gets it, Mr. Eberle. And it’s a thinly disguised agenda at that. The subtext to all of this is simple. Imagine giving all liberals sodium pentathal and asking them questions and the answers would be: “Yeah, there’s a law but we think it’s a stupid law and we don’t want to enforce it. We know these people, and most of them are good people, and they’d vote Democrat, so we want to just ignore the law and get some kind of amnesty passed.”
But what about the Constitution? “Well, it’s a stupid Constitution, and we need to just change it and let everybody in who wants in.” Sorry, liberals and progressives, we aren’t going to roll with that one. The law is going to be enforced, WITH force if necessary — get it?
Their agenda is classic liberalism: Just keep pounding until you get what you want and what sounded unreasonable suddenly starts to sound reasonable if you say it is. Excuse me? Does this sound like we’re in — oh, I don’t know — an OVERTON WINDOW??

Hmmmmm, my morning paper has an article, by Ivan Moreno of the Associated Press which says the Feds are using fingerprint databases from previous arrests to identify illegal aliens. I say BRAVO to this method too, after all those with prior arrest records should be the first to be kicked out of the US but of course the “mealy mouthed” Feds are not interested in any help by the likes of Arizona, or any other state for that matter. Until we are willing to incarcerate these people for an extended period of time with escalating sentences for repeated border jumping there will be no effective solution to the problem, no deterrent to those thinking of breaking our immigration laws for the first time, or any deterrent to those who are deported and return. The Federal law states that a person who is deported for the first illegal entry commits a felony when returning illegally after that deportation but no one is enforcing the law. How many times have we heard some self-righteous government official smugly remind us that we are a “Nation of laws”? Washington State recently arrested a serial rapist who had been deported FOURTEEN times. Tell the victims of that criminal piece of garbage that we are a “Nation of Laws”!! My husband had a novel idea as to where to “house” these repeat offenders……a neutral country might just really like to be paid to keep these people imprisoned for the length of their terms, a good choice might be Guatemala. I am fairly certain Guatemala would jump at the chance to make an industry of that idea.
It would serve our government to remember that any and all power they have is derived from the citizens of this country and the states. Those in government have either forgotten or (more likely) do not care what the people think. That just might change after the November 2nd elections………..at least for a little while. It’s a start!

Well, we’re all conservatives aren’t we? Supporters of the Constitution? So let us understand that problem with the AZ law is not what it does to illegals, but what it does to the Constitution. AZ is usurping jurisdiction reserved for the federal government, immigration. Just think of the chaos that would result from every state deciding its owm immigration policies. Maine might bar Canadians, for heaven’s sake! Let’s reserve our ire for something more important.

“the government projects (Hispanics) will account for 30 percent of the population by 2050, doubling in size from today”
This is the same government that won’t enforce the immigration laws against Hispanics, and give illegal alien babies automatic US Citizenship! Gee do you think maybe the two are connected? In Arizona the “Hispanic population” is decreasing.
Illegal aliens come here because our “nanny state” is better than theirs. The best GOP strategy would be to support equal opportunity legal immigration of freedom loving highly productive foreigners, and continuously remind them American freedom and prosperity comes from personal responsibility, national unity, and our unique Constitution created by a small group of very brave and insigtful men.
Come to think of it lots of Americans need to be reminded of that also.

Phalcox:
Your answer is totally bogus because just like so many others..including AG Holder have not read the 17 page law.
it is totally based upon federal law and does not usurp anything!!!
it upholds the federal law and our constitution.
I hope you were being facetious not showing your ignorance!!!

I applaud Mr Eberle and all the commentators for their excellent points, especially that we are a “NATION OF LAWS” and that we are only just beginning to use a national data base to deport notorious repeat offenders. However, it is a fact that Big Business and the GOP elite, like McCain and W. Bush have been arm in arm with the LIBERALS in promoting AMNESTY and OPEN BORDERS as the solution to the immigration issue.
Voters want to know, what does GOPUSA plan to do about this annoying little detail?

Plahcox, you have no idea of which you speak.
Conservative and conservationist are really the same people.
Both want to conserve our resources.
Our natural resources are being destroyed by illegals. Are you aware that just in the mighty redwood forests, Mexican drug cartels have literally taken over, growing pot, AND have the growers/keepers armed with semi-automatic weapons? If you are a typical NORML Liberal, don’t you think that the growing of pot should be restricted to Americans? What biz do they have in OUR forests? Chopping down our trees, and piddling and worse in our pristine streams, creeks and rivers?
We need to conserve the revenues that YOU and I pay in taxes. Millions to billions of dollars are spent on feeding, clothing and housing these people. They get free or almost free medical care you and I can’t cuz we work. Well, I assume you work. The money we earn, is removed from our pockets for these people. Don’t you want to conserve YOUR money, and put it towards Amerivcans or even yourself? If you think this is fine, then start a “Adopt an illegal family” group, and pay for ’em directly outta yer pocket.
THEIR cash zooms right outta the county, billions every MONTH. THAT money should go to conserve and repair our infrastructure.
If you are attending or have attended college/university, then you should know…it is most likely that YOU paid full tuition and fees and the illegals paid a reduced rate or nothing at all.
Canadians are already restricted by the Federal government. Are you aware that no state grants a visa OR citizenship? Canadians and other citizens of other countries may not come in unless they have a badly needed profession, like medical especially nursing. Germans are not allowed in this country more than 90 days a year. If they wish to stay here longer, they must have a proven income, from somewhere else to support them in this country. Germans may buy property, may not have a homestead exemption and must pay property taxes, both state and federal, and all other taxes.
People from the Phillipines, have a 10 year waiting list to come here for more than a 30 day visa. NONE are granted citizenship unless they are married to an American, and must go back for two weeks or six months (depending on the whim of the Federal government at the moment)before returning to our country. It takes as long as 10 years for them to obtain a green card.
I could go on and on, P, but I believe you get the conservation/conservative picture. And what states may and may not do, and what a state may grant or not grant.
Hispanics, not all are from Mexico, come from Third World countries, LIKE Guatemala, and Mexico, and the Honduras and Dominica, and they carry with them diseases that we automatically vaccinate our citizens for. But the strains they bring with them are almost always newer, and drug resistant ones that overwhelm our citizens.
And it 8is not just Hispanics that carry disease. Haitians come here illegally by droves. Haiti has the second highest rate of HIV infection in the Western Hemisphere. (Brazil has the highest but for some reason, few Brazilians immigrate here, legally or illegally). Sad thing about infected Haitians, is that for some reason they do not get into AIDS, as fast as other segments of the illegal population. They show NO symptoms, and by the tie they do? They’ve infected how many others? Ya like that buncha apples? Still think illegal immigration ain’t important?
Grow up, Mr. P, read something other than Huffpo, in fact, read everything you can get yer paws on and yer right side will convince yer left side…
Dr. Eberle…I’m with you…chambermaids?

The reason hispanics are the favored minority is because they have not yet realized they are being used by the democrats for the democrats own benefit, not for the benefit of the hispanics.
America is not now nor has ever been a perfect country, however nothing to worry about because no other country is perfect either. We have however, for 200+ years, had the mandate to form a more perfect union and have indeed overcome many injustices. Like slavery, like women’s sufferage, like the the industrial revolution with child labor, sweat shops. And I thought we were over machine patronage politics until this faux prez was elected and even racism seems to have returned?
Also the blacks are no longer “true” democrats so the liberals need some warm bodies to rush into the breech and protect their role as “party of the people”. As the blacks get more educated and get better jobs they soon realize they no longer want to be used by democrats for the democrats benefit. They have now reaped the “benefits” of liberal “rule”, like everyone else. They get higher taxes, less freedom, and massive unemployment as the result of liberal democratic policies/legislation.
So, we should welcome the blacks to the ‘silent majority’! Where abuse by liberal govt is the only benefit you get. You don’t get fair even handed govt or honest representation in Congress!

PHALCOX you haven’t got clue about the constitution. If we followed your idea I guess that local law enforcement would no longer enforce any Federal laws, but of course that’s not the way it works. This pick and choose system that Obama’s justice use is the only thing that is unconstitutional because this is a direct violation of oath of office. Obama and his cohorts should be going to jail. I pray for that day!
IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!

The Hispanic vote is democrat until you ask individuals questions about the party platform, then they disagree. Most have never read either party platform, which doesn’t imply ignorance, because I find it difficult to find anyone who really has… The point is Hispanics are predominately Catholic, honest, hard working, and not ignorant. If we believe in our conservative cause then we should be enlisting their participation not categorically waiving them off.

Actually I have read the Constitution and all of you in an uproar and who over-reatct to my gentle words should read it too. Also, it would be nice if you disagreed without being disagreeable. The problem Constitutionally is not that Arizona is enforcing federal law, it is that it is making law that violates at least Article 1, Sections 8 & 9 of the Constitution. For those of you who can get it on line, Read Justice Gray’s opinion in Fong Yue Ting v. United States 149 U.S. 698; 13 S.Ct. an 1893 case that spells out the supremacy of Federal law in foreign affairs and immigration. The remark about Canadians was meant to be facetious. Most illegal immigrants are not diseased, not on welfare, not criminals other than their immigration status. A very few are diseaased, criminals, etc., which is true in any population. That is just fact and all the screaming and name calling doesn’t change that. The same argument most of you use was used against Chinese, Japanese, Jews, Italians, Irish, and Germans.
And by the way, I am grown up, a U.S. Army veteran, a registered Republican and member and organizer of my local Tea Party.

the high crime rates in AZ are largely attributable to illegal aliens. It is a fact. Not all crimes come from that group, but a lot do.
For some analysts, the influx is related to drugs, the drug lords use illegal crossers to distract the under-staffed border patrol so they can move drugs in other spots.
For others, this amounts to colonization effort from Mexico. Many protesters were chanting recently, “We did not move, the Borders did!!” Not in anyone’s lifetime here today did the border change. I believe the land was purchased, not stolen. Gadsden purchase and the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo (aka Mexican Cession) 1848( what happens when you lose wars, you lose turf. Some wanted U.S. to just take the whole thing) Payments were made, debts assumed and the lines have been this way for 150 years.
We need strong walls and good gates. Strong walls to keep the wrong type of people and materials crossing either direction, good gates to allow the genuine and needed job seeker to come and make their fortune as a contributing American. U.S. welfare rolls are loaded with workers, they just live in the wrong states. Temporary workers are not really needed.
For some, employers are the problem. They take in workers, pay cash only at lower wage — do not think the difference goes to the customer, it does not
— no FICA contribution ( any problems in Social Security today? )
— no income taxes (AZ does not suffer from having extra $$, stupid Janet Napolitano having spent all the rainy day money) they just raised sales taxes here another 1%, ranges from 8.8% to 10% plus the city of Phoenix is taxing all food at an additional 2%.
Is it about votes? Yes because votes translates into control.
Is it about money. Yes, because money can buy some control.
Is it about the poor seeking a better life. A little bit, but they are mostly pawns in the game.
It is about control. I prefer to make my choices and live with them, not have govt make them for me.
Thanks for the chance to rant a little.

The current federal immigration law gives state and local law enforement the authority to enforce it. I believe it’s regulation 1418.
What the AZ law does is require those police officers to enforce the law because the idiots in charge of large metropolises like Phoenix and Tucson have refused to do so.
I’m in full agreement with the post above to consider these people as invaders. How else would you characterize large groups of armed people crossing the border? When large groups of armed Germans crossed the French border in 1939, the French should have resisted. They surrendered a year later. Should we follow their example?

Yep. They are leavibg AZ and ending up in New Mexico. Just bought a .40 to protect my property. Every state should pass the same law. Another help would be to impeach the president.
Soon there will be a flood of Musilm illegals

Plahcox | July 27, 2010 12:42 PM | Reply
You write: “The problem Constitutionally is not that Arizona is enforcing federal law, it is that it is making law that violates at least Article 1, Sections 8 & 9 of the Constitution.”
What I do see in Article I, Section 8 is: “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;”
Are we not being invaded by illegal aliens? Specifically along our border states with Mexico?
Where is the Militia?
No where in the above mentioned Article I, Sections (8 & 9) do I see reference to your comment that Arizona is violating the Constitution. It must be a simple matter of interpretation. Please enlighten us.

There’s more to it than this. If the federal government is derelict in its duty to protect our territories and defend Americans, then the States have the authority to step up to the plate and defend themselves.
It’s clear that the federal government is doing little to nothing to fix this situation, and it’s equally clear that Arizona is suffering for the fed’s criminal dereliction of duty. They are within their rights to defend their state. They cannot create immigration law, nor trump federal law, but if you read the actual text of Arizona’s new law, it does neither. It really amounts to enabling the officers to question the immigration status during the course of a fully legitamate legal action (like stopping someone for speeding… in which case, don’t they ask everyone for a DL and insurance anyway?), and also give guidelines for working with federal authorities to determine immigration status and/or what to do with an illegal that has been detained. Really, that’s pretty much it.
Honestly, I read the entire law. The left is grossly over-reacting. Period. The only explanation of this is that no one on the extreme left has READ the new law, or no one on the extreme left (and some not so extreme, apparently) want to have anyone interfere with or slow down the illegal migration from Mexico. Neither do they want anything done to remove illegals that are here, currently, or even identify them.
If we cannot control our border, we have no border. No nation can survive without borders.

cJ7, Just wanted to also point out that the Constitution was written in common English for the common man. In other words it means what it says and it says what it means. This document was not written to be interpreted and twisted by lawyers. There is no hidden meaning as those on the left would leads you to believe. IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!