I got Lyme and Bart. in my garden in MV. I found the tick on me and it didn't leave a mark. And I went down in flames fast. Perfect health one day, the next awful. Fever, Arthritis, fatigue, pain all over. I have had the flu before and the flu was a cake walk.I got treated with Doxy the very next day. Since my Dr. knew that everyone up Island was living in tick country, he knew what to do. I took it for 3 mos. It didn't work. I continued it thinking more would help.That didn't work. I found another Dr. who put me on more Doxy and that didn't work. Many Dr.s and more and more drugs, and even treatment in Munich, and more drugs. And getting worse from all the drugs.At the end of my rope and mentally having trouble talking, thinking, reading, driving and had two small kids.My daughter found Envita for me. A clinic in Scottsdale. I had too many problems to list by this point. But lets just say that it was the clinic or a mental ward...lol. I all of a sudden was 105. With stage three Alztimers symptoms. But I looked good...lol. I think most people thought I was drunk because I would have to hold on to the wall due to my awful vertigo and huge sunglasses....due to daily migraine . Anyways....I was rushed to the clinic. Within a week. I was not happy about being out of the house and away from my small children. But I was very happy that I didn't have to prove I was sick or argue with Dr.s about feeling so ill. Everything was wrong, everything hurt. I was 40 and always a big athlete and now I could barely walk. They saved me. I like that instead of drugging me to death that they instead decided to build up my immune system. They put me on a heavy vitamin regimen. Put me on a very strict diet. And then did Ozone treatments on my blood. I felt so much better in 2 weeks that I didn't want to finish. I think that it is amazing that they can purify our water with Ozone. Ozone kills all virus's and bacteria in water. It worked very well on my body as well.I was first infected in 2004. I was on tons of Doxy for 4 years and tons of other stuff from all of the Dr.s treating all of my symptoms. Too many pills! And I just got worse and worse. I left the clinic in 2009.I have been symptom free for 3 and a half years now. I don't have one single thing that bothers me. I continue to take Envitas Ultra Guard vitamins and their immune support vitamins. My mind is back along with my health and hair and love of life. And I can now be a great mother to my children and get back to work!

I'm happy for you. But I'm sure that was a costly stay at Envita. Money that most don't have. However, I appreciate your sharing the information for those who likely can afford it. I am also happy to know that even the worst cases are curable! Thanks for coming back to the board and giving some of us some hope!

What a great story, Marthas!! Thanks for sharing it! Our stories are similar. I too tried abx, although I was on high doses of Minocycline, and just continued to get worse and worse, eventually I went home - I thought to die - although I managed to hang on until we could find a doc that would treat me holistically. The first thing that changed for me was I was finally able to detox!

Thanks again for sharing your story!! It's always good to offer that hope to those who are just starting or are having some difficulties.

And congratulations for being symptom free for 3 1/2 years now!!! May the counting continue for a very long time!!! Treating with Acupuncture, Traditional & Modern Chinese Medicine & Western Herbs. Before tx, I had all but 20 of the symptoms on the "Master Symptom List" for Lyme disease.

i heard about envita in Az. I called them dr khorn or whatever his name is, said a year of anti bitoics

If I won the lotto, I would hire someone to help take care of me, fly out with mestay in a hotel for a yr, yikes, but this is my lifelost so many years as it is.I wanna to come into millions of dollars to pay for treatment and all, How do you guys do it with no money. catch 22, too sick to workI have not worked that much prior, not making much, was in school yrs priorman, they say god does not give u more than you cant handle but that is bologne salami to me.I am too sick to clean my house so I hired a maid service. It helps but my godbeing a millionaire would certaninly make life easier, I would get hyperbaric chamber treatments, etc

Your right about the treatment at Envita being exspensive. It was around 16,000for 6 weeks. 4 days a week and 6 hoursof treatment. But I had 4 nurses and evenmore Dr.'s. full survice. I didn't get Abx initially.And later they suggested some. But I Refused them. I was doxyed out.My Envita treatment was less than myLLMD in Florida who change me 3,500 a week.For a year of IV Abx.And my treatment in Munich was costlygetting there and having to travel alone.That was scary for me and my family.I was too sick to return. Because I was bleedingso badly. From the drugs.All of my Dr.s before Envita were not cheapeither. All of the Different Dr.s for my heart,and brain, and therapy, and physiotherapy.And MD's and hospitals and MRI's. And All of the perceptions. And the time....All of the years that I lost....my 40'sBeing sick and drugged and treated badly.And criticizing me for my barrage of symptoms.I found Ozone clinics in the US. I would just do thattreatment alone. Or I would do the hybebaricchamber 3 times a week. Up to 16 times. That would be around 1.600. That is what I am doing for my daughters now.Since I don't want to put a port in their chest.My x husband got me a apartment at the 4 seasons. Since it was close to Envita.And my driving was bad. And it was hard for meto get home. Plus I couldn't cook anymore.And since I was sick and alone, they had good security.

I'm really glad that Ozone therapy and the Hyperbaric oxygen helped you so much, Martha's Vineyard. It's really wonderful when we find what works for us! I also appreciate you sharing what worked for you - that way others can at least explore those possibilities for themselves.

Although, what works for one doesn't necessarily work for another - otherwise we would all know exactly what treatment we all need. Which would be soo nice, but it's just not that simple.

Hyperbaric oxygen does help a few, but not all that try it, and that's a lot of money to find out that you are in the majority and it didn't help.

Again, please do your research and talk with your LLMD.Treating with Acupuncture, Traditional & Modern Chinese Medicine & Western Herbs. Before tx, I had all but 20 of the symptoms on the "Master Symptom List" for Lyme disease.

Hi Traveler,Do what research? And talk to what LLMD? I am healed? I have met so many and been to many. I met many many people at the clinic face to face. I have seen many people healed at the clinic. I have also met the LLMD's in Germany and in NYC and in CONN. Doing a hyberabric chamber is not expensive. It cost about 100 dollars. And the kids at the facility in Texas had great results as well. Do your research face to face and visit some of these places and live with these people and talk to them and their families. As I have met them. This is a forum where people come to offer things that have or have not worked for them. Is it not? I am not saying that I have the cure for cancer or lyme. But I am saying that I was cured. And I don't need to do any research to say that.

What facility in Texas are you referring to? I am in in Texas and would love to know of all resources in my area! If anyone else knows of any good doctors or any places for treatment in Texas, I would love to hear about it. I am new to lyme and need all the help I can get!

Hi Iknight,Last summer I went to a clinic in SanAntonio. I had bought a package fromthem for my best friend who suffers from MS. And I decided to give it a trymyself. And to see if it was somethingthat my then 8 year old could handle.I was surprised that when I was meetingwith the Dr. there how much he knew aboutLyme. And was inspired by the manypeople he had treated with the chamber.With good results. I did it over 10 times.But I wasnt sick. It is a tad hard on the ears I found. And because it pumps somuch oxygen into every part of the body.It does a number on your eye sight for a while.My daughter thought it was a breeze.And watched TV while inside the bubble.I went back this summer to get her back into do after her day camp. But they had closed!:(Look under oxygen chambers, or hyberbaricchambers. I know of one in Dallas too.Texas is a big place. Where in Texas are you?

I said hello to you in another post but perhaps you didn't see it. I remember when you went to Envita and how you posted from there as you were healing, good for you!

I don't think Traveler meant for you to do research, I believe Traveler meant for other's to do their research, people that are still sick... Even though I am totally well, I still continue to research simply because I have such a curious mind... I like to keep up with the newest treatments so I can help others. But's that me.

Also, another way to get oxygen into the blood is a very simple method and that is to add at least 1 or 2 bottles of hydrogen peroxide (food grade ~ bought at your regular drug store or market) and add those bottles of hydrogen peroxide to a detox bath along with epsom salts. Hydrogen peroxide adds so much oxygen into the blood stream which lyme bacteria hate. And it did not turn my hair any funny colors (I do highlight my hair blonde)...

And of course to dry skin brush the entire body first in order to open up the pores to get rid of the dead skin that is keeping toxins inside.

Anyway, glad to see you on the forum!!

Denise

Symptom-free for 6 years ~ used Dr. Jernigan's protocol.

Our bodies are wise as they can heal themselves, all one has to do is nourish them properly. Thus it's all about the Immune System mixed with Daily Detoxing and a dose of Positive Thinking!

I'm in Austin which is just an hour from San Antonio. Too bad that facility closed, but Dallas is just 3 hours What was the name of the Dr in San Antonio. What is the difference between Ozone therapy and oxygen therapy (via hyperbaric or some other method)?

Dejavu!!!OMG!!!How are you!!????How are you feeling now?My goodness it's been forever!It's great to hear from you.No I didn't see your other posts to me.Gosh! I remember perioxide! Lol!Almost forgot all about that stuff.I was getting that stuff pumped into me aswell 4 days a week!Remember!?I smelled like pickled corn!It was coming out of my poors!Lol!! Hahaha

We are going to a dr in Flower Mound (just north of DFW) who is a ND--we really like him a lot and Caity is doing better. Can I say his name here--can't remember!?? We have also been to Hansa, which helped a lot, but she was still not well. . . The ND works with Cowden so Caity is doing a modified Cowden approach. Like it much better than the abx which made her so sick! We are also trying out the iMRS mat--too early to tell if that is making a difference. . . It is PEMF--pulsed electromagnetic frequency mat. You can message me privately if you wish!!www.caityboyd.blogspot.com

Hi Knight,I learned that what heals the body 8 times more effectively is Oxygen. That the body properly armed can do its dirty work and kill bacteria. So if you read what is one line about Ozone you will get a lot about how it is used in treating and cleaning dirty water. They say it can purify water. Killing all of the bacteria and virus in water. But then there are all of these articles that say that it doesn't really help do the same for us. Yet other countries have been using it a lot to treat diseases and even cancer. If it helps make the body stronger and healthier then for me that is great news.Getting Oxygen through a port is the hard way for sure. I didn't know about that until I got to the clinic. I don't like the sight of blood. Boy...I had to get over that fast. Everyone was getting it.An easier way to get it is in a chamber. All you have to do is lie down. And the chamber is the only thing that is great for you that all of the Dr.s agree on. But it is important to have a licensed person man the machine of course. I know they have these in Dallas. In the Military they are used to heal people who have been horribly burned. it speeds up the recovery time of their burns. We have the top burn unit in SAT and they fly them in for it.

Martha's Vineyard, Dejavu was correct, I wasn't telling you to do your research!! Please forgive me for not clarifying myself better!! My speech still suffers - as you can tell even in written form! - when I get tired still.

I only meant that those who are interested should do their research and that what works for one, doesn't necessarily work for another.

I have spoken with a great deal of Lyme patients as well, both in person, on the phone, in private emails and online here and several other places, so I understand how careful we must be to present things in a very careful manner.After all we are all very ill and seeking something that will actually make a difference. Again, I'm not really telling you anything you don't already know, I'm sure.

Personally, I think it's great that you are here, presenting this information to the members in such detail. Not something I've seen in too many places.

By the way, $100 a session is expensive for some. If I did that twice a month, I wouldn't be able to afford the herbs and supplements that I need to function and heal. I'm sure that I'm not alone in this. For those that can afford it and wish to try it, more power to them though!!!Treating with Acupuncture, Traditional & Modern Chinese Medicine & Western Herbs. Before tx, I had all but 20 of the symptoms on the "Master Symptom List" for Lyme disease.

I understand that treatments areexpensive. My insurance didn't coverany of mine either. And when I did get themto cover my port. Well they dropped mesoon afterwards. Thank you blue cross.I have helped others with the chamber expense. One women had familymembers who helped her as a gift do thechamber and she was so excited onhow much better she felt.I paid for all of our expenses.I sold a car of mine too. I sold things off.When my mind changed on thedoxt was when my little one was in treatmentwith the famous child LLMD in Co.I flew her there while I was in treatment inScottsdale. Lol I was a mess and so was she.We did his protocol of heavy Abx, andshe got extremely sick.So sick that I had to take her out of school,and brought her out to Arizona with me.During my treatment! :pShe started having hallucinations andhad to get MRI's and she had troublebeing hospitalized twice in Az. Because ofasthma?? So having done the LLMDthat was so famous and seeing what Abx inthe extreme can do to a child, and me.I have looked long and hard for therapiesthat actually work.And I found it. Granted, there are 300 strains of Lyme and no one has all the answers.

Your story is a bit fascinating to me actually. I too tried abx - Minocycline - first for treatment. I managed to hand on for 12 months, but I continued to get worse and worse until I finally told my LLMD that I just couldn't take any more. I went home to die - or so I thought. I was bed bound for 2 months - and home alone - and then I was house bound for another 3 months after that.

Heavy detoxing, with plenty of encouragement from Dejavu, and eating carefully, drinking plenty of good clean water, rest and a few supplement got me through the roughest period of my life!

After that, I sought out a GP that would at least listen to me and I managed to find one. He helped me discover that not only was my thyroid in serious need of help, but he was able to write me scripts to keep me going until I could find someone that would be willing to actually treat my infections. I ended up using a Chinese Medicine/Acupuncture/Western Herbalist of all things!! LOL!! I've been in treatment with her for just over 2 years now - the first 8 months just to build up my body so that it could take the treatments! Now, 18 months into my herbal/natural treatments, I'm at least 60% better.

My heart sincerely goes out to you and your precious daughter. My kids were sick only with the regular things when they were still living at home. I'm not real sure how I got so lucky that they weren't infected while I was pregnant, since I was infected the first time (& without adequate treatment) at the age of 7 yrs old. I know how heart-breaking it was just to watch them go through the normal things.

You are definitely one strong woman!Treating with Acupuncture, Traditional & Modern Chinese Medicine & Western Herbs. Before tx, I had all but 20 of the symptoms on the "Master Symptom List" for Lyme disease.

Thank you darling!It is a tough ordeal to go through foreveryone. Having the whole familyget it during our summer in the vineyard wasa battle that I just can't wrap my mindaround. It was a scary time!Infuriating as well. I knew something was really wrongin Martha's Vineyard when severalof my yard men died.Guys in there 20's.Ever hear of tularemia?Another tick born disease. But it canbecome air born when the rabbits poop andthey go over it with the lawn mowers.That was the summer of 03. And we neverreturned to that beautiful house in Chilmark.I had it packed up and sold.Too many issues with Lyne and the co- infections up there. The Island is coveredin those tiny ticks!

Yikes! Having several people die around you would be a scary thing! Especially when you then realize that it's all connected with your own family somehow.

I've known about Tularemia since I was a rather young child, as I was an avid outdoors person even then. We of course didn't realize all there was to know about it, but once I started learning about tick-borne diseases, of course Tularemia was one I learned more about.

Everyone's story interests me, as most all of us have a scary story when it comes to these diseases. Thanks for letting me know yours!Treating with Acupuncture, Traditional & Modern Chinese Medicine & Western Herbs. Before tx, I had all but 20 of the symptoms on the "Master Symptom List" for Lyme disease.

These tick born illness's are the rootof all of these auto immune diseases.That why when we get hit with usually2-4 of them we have the symptoms of all of the auto immune diseases's.Then our Dr.'s try to label us and treatus for that one thing. And when we don'tget better they tell us we are nuts!Lol!!My opinion is that when I got Lyme.It was like getting bombed. And myimmune system was in ruins.And what is so odd about our medicalindustry here. Is that none of the Dr.scare to discuss nutrition and vitaminsand minerals for us.Guess there isn't enough money in that!Before Envita, I didn't take all of the supplements.I though I ate we'll enough. But I don't eatenough period. Always on a low caloriediet.So my body was lacking a lot of things it neededto " rebuild" after being hit with Lyme andBart.I think it is important for people to understandthat after Lyme hits them, and most everyonewill be. That they need to rebuild big time.That the way to heal is not to keep"Bombing" the body with drugs.But that it is time to strengthen the bodyso that it can get its balance back.

Hi Bridgestone,I'm sorry, no - Martha's Vineyard isn't posting here any longer. It's been 2 years since they last posted.

We do have a pretty good search function though!! You can search through this forum looking for their posts or the subjects that you wish. Just be sure to put the term Lyme before any other search terms to help keep your results from this Lyme forum. You can find the search 'button' above, in the same bar as the Log on/off 'button'.Herb only treatment for Lyme & Bart ended 12/11 - no active symptoms -Herb only treatment for Babesia ended 12/12 - no active symptomsHealed from tick-borne infections, now healing from the damage they left behind.www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=2977364