Kommentare

Kommentar von cfeuer1

1.) in the human form. will we be in old-timey clothing, or will we be wearing our equipped gear as we appear human?

2.) can we battle in the human state?(cast/hit? get hit? mount?)

Kommentar von Kaltzor

If not your gear, i hope something nice and clean... A tux with a tie you can adjust while saying "Ahem.. Gentlemen."

Kommentar von kimbolt

What's the purpose behind turning into a human?

Kommentar von NyhmFan

You know, not everyone is a twilight freak. (Well, have never seen, or read the Twilight series, and might do it.)

Edit: Typo..

Kommentar von Kaltzor

They should make it so that you can fight in Human form... but make it weaker somehow that you'd have a reason to be in Worgen form when fighting but not 100% forced.

Kommentar von Alxe

I don't really like this spell, even if RPers find it useful.In non-RP servers (PvP-enabled or not), I suppose it would be unpleasant to get reverted to human when finished off a monster.Other uses, in my opinion, could be as a area spell, like getting into the Worgen city, as it's shared with other non-infected humans, and have your curse "disguised".

Kommentar von Lasszlocska

Just some information from the current beta build:

You can use the Two Forms spell anytime, and anywhere, except while mounted

You keep all your equipped items, and they will be shown in BOTH human and worgen form. (Except for the headpiece, currently you can only see a blue-white chekered box instead of the item; which means it's not done yet)

Currently, your hairstyle decides what will you look like in human form.

The two forms ability does NOT grant you any special skill or ability, it just changes your character model with a stylish animation.

You CAN use any ability or spell while in Human, or Worgen form, with different animations of course.

These may change during the following patches, and the final release of Cataclysm.

Kommentar von NyhmFan

I don't really like this spell, even if RPers find it useful.In non-RP servers (PvP-enabled or not), I suppose it would be unpleasant to get reverted to human when finished off a monster.Other uses, in my opinion, could be as a area spell, like getting into the Worgen city, as it's shared with other non-infected humans, and have your curse "disguised".

This spell changes the form when you are OUT OF COMBAT, and not IN COMBAT. I mean, why the heck would Blizzard make a new race named "Worgen", but in the end, it's just some random Human nobility from the (Top Hat-ish) Ol' Britain. Don't tell me you hate them because they're too savage. Because they are NOT!They are furry.

Kommentar von Maximof

wait guys wait D:

Kommentar von Vlad

I have one suggestion and I hope others agree with my proposal.

It would be nice if you are in Human form, enter combat and when the combat finishes that you be returned to your Human form. This eliminates you from having to again apply the Human form, saving time basically.

Kommentar von Llednar

it should remove polymorph effects... i'm just saying

Kommentar von Nyter

this

Kommentar von NyhmFan

That's most likely Blizz's plan, but why change into Human in the first place? Furry people are... furryandcute...

Kommentar von rigorad

Kommentar von dcb2124

I don't get why people are upset that this is could possible be an RP-only ability. If you don't want to use the ability, you can just...well, not click on it? If you want something OP, then just cry about Darkflight til they buff it.

Kommentar von spore83

I dont think blizz has any plans to change this anytime soon. Its supposed to be a fun cosmetic ability that lets worgen have TWO sets of /dance animations.

Although i have no idea why anyone would use this ability with any regularity. If you roll a worgen, why wouldnt you play as one?

Kommentar von avevitam

Also, uhh... Worgen can be druids. What's the point of Two Forms removing polymorph if you roll a druid?

Kommentar von Samathrume

I greatly disagree with the two forms thing. The class is called WORGEN, not HUMAN. If I wanted to play as a human I would, but this is a Worgen. Same disagree by saying that the Worgens, by lore, are cursed humans much like werewolves. But it. is. a. WORGEN!

Kommentar von themguyman

ok this is a stupid question but is the quest required to complete the zone or can i skip it cuz i don't even want the option of being human

Kommentar von Dyntithius

This has to be the dumbest (useless) racial passive. It's like the Gob's don't have a useless racial, as a matter of fact the dang Gnomes should get racial passives similar to the Gob's being engineer lovers as well.This is imo of course.

Kommentar von barunedpat

Dunno if it still works, but early in the beta you could write /transform to change between human and worgen, even before doing the quest to get the ability!

Kommentar von CasperAkaTDC

The Worgen form should get an Unarmed Specialization....

Kommentar von HandofDeath

this spell doesn't seem purely rp it could be used for the darkflight ability in pvp/pve and soloing

Kommentar von Etchelamal

Yea... nothing like a RACIAL that makes you polymorph immune... that would be the most fairest racial ever.

Allow me to introduce you to my good friend the druid

Kommentar von rcoughlan24

I don't know where I have to go to get this skill.....any ideas? Nobody in-game seems to be able to help.

Kommentar von Nithling

If you do a race change then you're not a Worgen anymore. So why would you be able to turn into one?

edit: this was in response to a post that's been deleted.

Kommentar von Ctaclysmic77

Ok, first of all goblin racial blink/disengage is a 75 yard jump. I'm almost positive some gay goblin pvpers in wsg are going to take advantage of it,all the people in the alliance will whine until its nerfed so.... srsly stop complaining that its OP. This is a awesome racial for rping. The only down-side that I can see Is the beggining of gay Twilight rp. :( This will give people a chance to play as two races... idk how you people think its dumb...

Kommentar von Lolipop898

My opinion is that we should be able to change clothing in human form, just for the look. And when we change back to worgen form we'll automatically have our normal gear back on. That would be plain Chuck Norrisness ;)

Kommentar von Tolidron

So, wait do you have to do this quest, like what if you prefer to just stay Worgen?

Kommentar von Innuendo

Although people state this is purely RP, I am looking at this with some interesting ideas for PvP. For instance, when going into Arena as a Worgen in Human form, many players will look at you as a Human and assume you have EMFH rather than Dark Flight, which could be invaluable when taking them by surprise.

Kommentar von Fu4u

These guys chased me in grizzly hill while i was riding the slowest horse possible and throwing burning lanterns at them with a guy crying in my back

Kommentar von Innuendo

Yes please do? If you see the class is a Rogue/Mage/Warrior you know they have these distance-shortening abilities. But if you see a Worgen Hunter, for example, in Human form (without reading your mouseover display), you may not realize it until too late. Swiftness Pots can't be used in Arenas or Rated Battlegrounds, by the way.

Kommentar von SirVinland

I greatly disagree with the two forms thing. The class is called WORGEN, not HUMAN. If I wanted to play as a human I would, but this is a Worgen. Same disagree by saying that the Worgens, by lore, are cursed humans much like werewolves. But it. is. a. WORGEN!

Well, Worgens did get screwed over in nearly all other racial abilities, so they might actually need that kind of ability. Besides, Druids are immune to polymorph effects when shape shifted, why not Worgens?

Nerd Rage Initiating...

I keep reading this kind of stuff and I can't help but shake my head and wanting to slap some people. First of all, the lore of Warcraft, for any game as a matter of fact, should always come first. Please Blizzard, don't shape your game around butthurt teenagers and whining jerk offs who do not understand the heart and essence of Warcraft. Call me a lore nerd or whatever, but it's the story surrounding the Warcraft Universe that keeps me attached to this game. Of course, Blizzard does need to listen to its fans, which they obviously do and always have to help increase the quality of the players experience. But some people need to shut their faces and quit being ridiculous. If you do not want to appear as a Human while playing a Worgen.. DON'T click the button!

And why are people complaining while comparing Worgen and Goblin racial abilities? Just look at the two! They are completely different in nature and makes sense that Goblin's would invent some type of contraption to shoot him off into the distance while madly flailing his arms in the process. "Hey Blizzard! How about giving Worgens a racial that will allow them to burrow underground mid-combat, in case they are getting pwned, and build a tiny house so that they can drink tea and eat biscuits with their friends until the bad guys go away! :D"

Lore > Butthurt

...Nerd Rage Complete.

Kommentar von Slye20

If you make a Worgen DK, would you have this when you start, or would you go the entire game without it?That's my only concern about it.

Edit: I tested it, you do get it

Kommentar von marshmellows

Question: How would a worgen ride a FP bird? (would they be hanging off the side going WEEEEEEE! IM GONNA DIE WOOOOO!)

Kommentar von Witiko

I believe this whole idea of Worgen transforming could've been used in a much more meaningful manner than just a "cool animation button". If the Worgen transformed say at night, then it would make sense. But then the kids that cannot play at nights would cry.

And it would make sense.

Make sense.

Sense.

Declined.

Kommentar von Dimitrij

Worgens are just yet another failed attempt to make the Alliance a little more bestial, a little more savage and a little less... Non-straight.

Though they are cool, and I revere this awesome RP ability.

They just do not fit in among the Alliance humanoid-people.

Kommentar von TazD579

The racials are somewhat comparable...

Flayer = Better Living Through Chemistry. Both Profession Enhancements. Although I'm not quite sure when Goblins became Alchemist, Gnomes already have the corner on Engineering. Fine.

Viciousness = Time is Money. Both slight damage increases. One is sometimey while one is consistent. And since when are Goblins consistent about anything?... other than money.

Darkflight = Rocket Jump/Barrage. Both Movement Enhancements. Again, one sometime and one controlled. Just flipped. And you trade off having more control for less usage. And yes, Goblins can use their rockets as a damage ability instead of a movement ability, but it's one or the other every two minutes.

That leaves Abberation and Two Forms vs Pack Hobgoblin and Best Deals Anywhere. This is where I SMH.

I'm assuming being able to visit your bank once an hour from anywhere is supposed to be equal to Two Forms since they both require a quest to do. *I* would rather saved bag space over a solely RP ability. But then, at the same time, my Argent Flag Orc-child has a Pony, and I can't tell you how often I use him. And my bags stay full. Fail on my part, I know.

Which leaves Abberation vs. Best Deals. I can only imagine that their design thought was that having 2 innate resistances will hopefully save you on repair bills in the long run, and that will be enough to equal the savings Gobilns get with Best Deals. Sorry, but I don't see it.

The ONLY WAY that I can see Best Deals and Pack Hob Gob being worth it is if Running Wild training is a FREE replacement for Journeyman Riding. And even then that only saves Worgen 5 gold, while the Goblin will continue to money for their lifetime with every faction until they exalt with them.

The only reason I can come up with for them giving Goblins a bit of a tip on the balancing scale when it comes to racials is to make them a bit more attractive over the COOL FACTOR of simply BEING A WORGEN. I'm pretty certain many Hordies will be rolling Worgen just to finally get a look at the Alliance side without having to play such a pretty class. Hell, if they gave Worgen iPods, they'd have to give Goblins another awesome racial just so people would play them.

Kommentar von thebeav111

You guys are forgetting the advantages this will have in PVP... They won't know about your Worgen abilities until just as you enter combat. I must say it is a slight advantage.

Kommentar von Elski

I honestly like the Two forms trait. I hate humans in the game, atleast till a higher lvl where the armor makes them look good, they seem short and chuby to me. However I do think they look sweet in cloth hoods and robes. However, I just really dont like them too much or want to raise a low lvl to a high lvl. But if I can be a worgen that will always look cool, and then able to be a human, thats great.Plus for the Aberration racial, that is not awful at all. At lower levels it wont help that much, but at lvl 80s it helps a huge amount. Reduces the damage by shadow and nature about rougly 40%...now if you pvp, tell me how is that bad? This just allows worgen to faceroll shamans, druids, locks, priest.

Kommentar von Elski

I dont see how any trait for the worgens are useless, the skinning is .5 seconds, of course only usefull for skinners.The Aberration isnt too great at low level but in the 80s is roughly around 40%, thats pretty great for pvp. Two forms...well sure rp could use it. But personally i cant wait for it, I only liked humans for how they look good in a cloth hood, other than that I didnt like them. Now I can look sweet in combat and if i want and like how the human looks, switch out of it. It doesnt hurt anyone, just incase you watn a human form too then there you go. I always made Draenei and Night elves, so having a worgen turn into a human is great. Almost gets rid of the need for humans in game now.

Kommentar von Geeksquadnoob

haha it's a tarp? oh ^&*! not a blanket!

Kommentar von AZRaptor

While shirts don't have much game use they do occassionally come into use, such as Goblin Rocket Pack in the Icecrown Gunship fight, but it doesn't negate your point. That being said I do find it odd for them to make a racial ability that is strictly for RP flavor. I can't think of any other racial ability slots being taken up by a purely cosmetic skill.

The Night Elf's Wisp Spirit may come close, but at least it makes them run faster too.

Kommentar von Stripfiguur

wtb forum purge, I can't believe I actually read the posts above.

two forms is cool, it has no combat function. and if you rely solely on racials to survive in pvp then you're not good at pvp.

Kommentar von roylty98

Kommentar von hheebo

It doesn't have a cooldown, and you can cancel the transformation midway through.

Kommentar von Core

This spell can proc Omen of Clarity.

Kommentar von DussoJanladde

Two Forms can be cast while inside Caverns of Time instances, but does nothing because of the Human Illusion buff. Worgen in Caverns of Time instances are in their human form at all times, and their emotes are replaced by human ones.

Kommentar von Frawki

Kommentar von mtawney13

Example, goblin rogues would not gain increased energy regen through their racial.

Kommentar von ElliotHunts

Attempting to use this ability while having the Transporter malfunction debuff results in an error message 'You can not transform right now'.

Kommentar von mylosol

Other than a parlor trick, I fail to see the point in this ability... As soon as I cast, or try to mount, or even get attacked I change back into my Worgen form... Kinda reminds me of the . No real point...

Kommentar von Exigus

Note: Diseases and curses that can be easily dispelled in raids, and probably are dispelled long before this racial even has a chance to shine.

Kommentar von bluegr

Kommentar von Korwynd

In what appears to be a recent glitch, some players get this spell at level 6, others not until level 10, and others not until after they meet the night elves and do some quests for them.

Kommentar von Andraxion

There is a way to transform while mounted. Typing /transform will transform you regardless of being mounted or not.

Kommentar von Zilchary

The command "/transform" will make you change forms even while mounted.

Kommentar von moomoocow231

My question is, can Worgens stay in the wolf form 24/7? Or is there a time limit on it?

Kommentar von Westy543

They are furry.

And furries should be purged with fire.

Kommentar von Toldry

I made this macro to turn you into your human form just before you mount up

#showtooltip/transform/cast Swift White Steed

Switch "Swift White Steed" with whichever mount that you want to use.

Kommentar von desperado568

Just a quick note:

Although you will change back to your human form after combat should you be in human form pre-fight, if you're a druid and shapeshift while in human form, when you come out of the shapeshift you'll be back in Worgen form.....

So for a worgen druid, the two forms spell does a whole lot of nothing, even for rp-ers, since right now you'll never be reverted back to the human form following combat.

Kommentar von ShadowHMF

Didnt bother reading all the comments trough but I have something to share with the community, I just casted the Two Forms ability and my Druids Clearcasting proced.

Kommentar von Maldarius

FYI - it is possible to change forms while mounted, or even while stealthed without breaking stealth. The Two Forms spell as is won't do it, unfortunately. But once you learn Two Forms, rather than dragging the ability to your action bar, create a ?-icon macro as follows:

#showtooltip Two Forms/run Transform()

Drag that to your action bar instead. Easy enough, right? Enjoy!

- Maldarius of Arathor

Kommentar von hunterkira

Odd. I have no ability... should I? My male death knight worgen has it, but my female hunter worgen does not...

Kommentar von Muzzle248

I'm not sure when this changed, but I was able to mount my swift frostsaber while in human form and was not reverted to Worgen form.

Kommentar von Gettor

If you are a druid and want to change to human from right from animal forms, use this macro (swap the Cat Form part with whatever thing you're shapeshifting into):#showtooltip Cat Form/cast Cat Form/cast Two Forms

Since Cat Form is cast firstly, when you shapeshift INTO a cat, the Two Forms cast will fail, while when you shapeshift OUT of a cat, the Two Forms cast will succeed transforming you back to human!

Hint - the sole fact of shapeshifting (in combat or not) transforms you into a worgen, so shapeshifting into "humanoid" form will make Two Forms cast always transform you into a human.Hint#2 - using Darkflight changes you into a worgen.

Kommentar von lanofwind7

I think the transformation is inspired by an old fan art by Blizzard. Heavily buried by time, but somebody had submitted a picture of a human druid I believe, who had their arm turning and him watching, almost exactly as worgen do.

Maybe it's just me, but I saw a huge similarity and always think of that piece when I see the transformation. It's interesting.

Kommentar von Bsmx93

Two Forms does not work while mounted But, if you type /transform while mounted, it will transform you in and out of Worgen/Human forms.

As of 4.1.0, "/transform" has been removed from the game.

Kommentar von Derren

it would be nice if they made this a aura you can turn on/off.

On: Switch human when you get out of combat.

Off: You stay Worgen..

Kommentar von tarthur1

Most abilities turn you back to a Worgen. So far, I've found that blink does NOT break it. I don't think Ice block will either, but we'll see.

With further observation, it's only combat that forces you back into the worgen form. Basically, anything that keeps you out of combat will not force you out of the human form (healing someone out of combat while being out of combat yourself, blinking around darnassus, etc.). I can't confirm this yet, but I imagine that you can use this when invisibility is activated as a mage since it brings you out of combat.

Kommentar von umbraetmors

You cannot use Two Forms while Darkflight is active.

Kommentar von daenks

Goblins got a damn "exalted" discount everywhere and Worgens got just a little resistance against nature and shadow ! Thats a bit unfair but what ever Worgens are way more badasses haha !

Kommentar von guatafu

If you manually cast this. You will not be able to cast any spells or use any abilities during the phasing animation from human to worgen.

Kommentar von guatafu

Removes Stealth.

Kommentar von delong212

I just race changed to a worgen and i didnt recieve the Two Forms ability....any one have an answer for that?

Kommentar von Keladrylady

So, my partner decided to level his Worgen Druid, now it's level 10, he started asking me (seasoned wow player) why he couldn't transform.. I had a look, and then decided to look it up, in case my suspicions are right, and sure enough, he must've missed the quest, BUT. He claims that he did every quest in the area before moving on... Is there an easy way to tell whether he's done the quest without asking a GM?

Kommentar von LostDrewid

Is there still no way to write a macro so as to always end in human form, whether you've begun as a worgen or human? I'd love to factor one into my mount macro -- I think humans look better than worgens while mounted -- but after reading all the comments I see only one other person even lamenting the inability to do so. I would have hoped after this much time that a way would be known :(

Kommentar von ZeddTheStrong

Am I the only one who loves the Worgen race, but wants Two forms to be changed into an optional "Improved form"? Like a priest's shadow form, you don't have to use it, but if you do, you would get a a mana/focus/rage etc... regen increase (like 3-5%) and a slight haste increase(5-10), and maybe like a 5% speed increase. That's my idea, anyway. It turns this into a useful racial, make's it where the people who dont want to use it don't have to, and keeps it there for the people who like to use it.

Kommentar von Iscchan

Guys is it possible to get summoned out of Gilneas by a warlock BEFORE you get bitten by the guy in the cellar? Thus not getting the worgen form at all even when you enter combat since it doesn't change you in Gilneas before the quest. Because honestly the worgen form is crap. All the armor looks like s**t on it, at least in my opinion. I wish Blizz gave us the ability to stay in human form even when in combat if possible, or definitely at least an auto change when you leave it. I mean whats the point of doing all that controll the beast in you and stuff if you can't bloody control it at all. And if anyone asks "Why do you play a worgen then?", the answer is because human.

Kommentar von Kuraitora

If you use Recruit a Friend you can use "Summon Friend" to get you out of the starting area before being bit :) I hate that long ass piece of trash.

Kommentar von netohuerta

I think it would be cool if I could use this while I'm in moonkin form and have the glyph of the stars on

Kommentar von tenduramax2

Uncle Red: I mean, uh, what the heck you gonna shoot a .44 bullet at anyway... made out of silver?