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I'm sure it depends on how you measure. If compare the single best photo
(based on the lens sweet spot) from each camera you will get a different
answer than if you take an average of the two extreem telephoto and wide
angle shots.

I recently took some photos of a school concert. The fact that I could
mount a flash with a GN of 120 on my camera meant I got pictures at all. A
camera without a hot shoe wouldn't have worked at all.

So I guess you need to define the specific shooting situation first, and
then ask what camera could get the best quality in that particular
circumstance.

"frankg" <> wrote in message
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> which digital p & s produces the finest & highest quality files ?
>
I have been extremely happy with the results I continuously get from a Canon
Powershot Pro1.

I have used the Sony 828, the Olympus 8080 and the Nikon 8700, and compared
with them the Pro1 give me consistently brilliant results, particularly when
shooting RAW.

You have to forget about automatic everything settings if you want to get
the best from this camera.

Good answer - mostly I would use it for available (low) light shooting -
portraits near a window etc.. So lens speed is important. Occasionally a
landscape/urbanscape, and even the odd still life or c/u of an element in
nature. I am looking for something to substitute when I dont want to carry
my camera and all my prime lenses....a sort of pro snapshot camera. When I
do
get a good shot I dont want to have to curse the inferior quality and
therefore uselessness of the image. In film terms the Konica Hexar served
this purpose..a leica-like sharp, fast lens of stunning quality in a small,
well built body
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>
> > which digital p & s produces the finest & highest quality files ?
> >
>
>
> I'm sure it depends on how you measure. If compare the single best photo
> (based on the lens sweet spot) from each camera you will get a different
> answer than if you take an average of the two extreem telephoto and wide
> angle shots.
>
> I recently took some photos of a school concert. The fact that I could
> mount a flash with a GN of 120 on my camera meant I got pictures at all. A
> camera without a hot shoe wouldn't have worked at all.
>
> So I guess you need to define the specific shooting situation first, and
> then ask what camera could get the best quality in that particular
> circumstance.
>
> Bob
>
> --
> Delete the inverse SPAM to reply

Pepys wrote:
> "frankg" <> wrote in message
> newswKud.56965$...
>
>>which digital p & s produces the finest & highest quality files ?
>>
>
> I have been extremely happy with the results I continuously get from a Canon
> Powershot Pro1.
>
> I have used the Sony 828, the Olympus 8080 and the Nikon 8700, and compared
> with them the Pro1 give me consistently brilliant results, particularly when
> shooting RAW.
>
> You have to forget about automatic everything settings if you want to get
> the best from this camera.
>
> Hope that helps
>
> Sam
>
>

Marli wrote:
> There is not P&S camera that produce high quality files. They are all
> noisy..

No - they all require more light than a DSLR for the same noise level.
Many P&S cameras are capable of excellent results when used appropriately.
Perhaps the best quality JPEG files would be from the newest Nikons - 8400
wide-angle and 8800 telephoto.

But you really need to define what you are photographing and how you
intend to display the results - if you're only looking on a computer
screen or for Web display the requirements would be vastly different to 30
x 40 inch blow-ups intended for close scrutiny!

frankg wrote:
> Good answer - mostly I would use it for available (low) light shooting -
> portraits near a window etc.. So lens speed is important. Occasionally a
> landscape/urbanscape, and even the odd still life or c/u of an element in
> nature. I am looking for something to substitute when I dont want to carry
> my camera and all my prime lenses....a sort of pro snapshot camera. When I
> do
> get a good shot I dont want to have to curse the inferior quality and
> therefore uselessness of the image. In film terms the Konica Hexar served
> this purpose..a leica-like sharp, fast lens of stunning quality in a small,
> well built body
> ======================:
>

Difficult question, really. All cameras are a collection of
compromises. In order to meet certain marketing points, camera
manufacturers have to balance lens quality, features, controls, zoom
ranges, size, shape, LCD size, sensor size, and manufacturing costs to
come up with a marketable camera. Hardly an easy task. Kodak tries to
put a good lens on the camera, and balance the other features to achieve
the price point. I, personally, feel they do a good job of producing a
camera with good color, ease of use, and sharp images. However, I agree
with those who criticize Kodak for overagressive compression. Given the
sharp drop in cost of flash media, I believe they should back off the
compression by a factor of 4 at least. Otherwise, I find their products
give excellent pictures for the price.

Marli wrote:
> There is not P&S camera that produce high quality files. They are all
> noisy..
>
>
>
> "frankg" <> wrote in message
> newswKud.56965$...
>
>>which digital p & s produces the finest & highest quality files ?
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
Generalization, and as useless as any. Granted a good DSLR will usually
have lower noise than a P&S, but this is not always true in all
conditions, and has to do with price.

Guest

BigMike631 wrote:
> I would look at the canon g6 and the new lumix

I bought my wife a Canon G6 and I can tell that it takes excellent
pictures. It has a fast lens at f2-3 and produces very sharp images.
The lens is a little limited in focal lenght being 35-140mm. I have a
Canon 10D so the G6 uses the same battery and memory cards which was a
plus for us.

The people in this thread that said a P&S won't take good pictures are
incorrect. The Canon G6 takes just as good of pictures as my 10D with
Canon L glass. It just is limited in what it can do and does have more
noise limiting the useable ISO to 100. The built in flash is also
limiting and an external flash like my 500 EX looks like a flash with a
small camera attached.

There are times when hers is just plain easier to use and to take into
certain situations. The 10D with a 24-70mm f2.8 is just plain
intimidating to some people and is heavy to carry around for really
long periods.

I would include the Sony V3 in your short list. It compares favorably with the
Canon G6 as a top P&S camera (both use the same CCD). The V3 doesn't have as
fast a lens as the G6, but it's AF is better all around. Image quality seems
comparable - from what I've read.

"frankg" <> wrote in news:0RNud.58045$dC3.1598987
@news20.bellglobal.com:
> Good answer - mostly I would use it for available (low) light shooting -
> portraits near a window etc.. So lens speed is important. Occasionally a
>

For low light, I think lens speed is going to end up being most important.
It seems like most of the nicer modern digital cameras have decent sensors
and decent lenses. It sounds like that Panasonic with the fast sharp lens
might be something for you to look at.

bob wrote:
> "frankg" <> wrote in newswKud.56965$dC3.1560866
> @news20.bellglobal.com:
>
>
>>which digital p & s produces the finest & highest quality files ?
>>
>
>
>
> I'm sure it depends on how you measure. If compare the single best photo
> (based on the lens sweet spot) from each camera you will get a different
> answer than if you take an average of the two extreem telephoto and wide
> angle shots.
>
> I recently took some photos of a school concert. The fact that I could
> mount a flash with a GN of 120 on my camera meant I got pictures at all. A
> camera without a hot shoe wouldn't have worked at all.
>
> So I guess you need to define the specific shooting situation first, and
> then ask what camera could get the best quality in that particular
> circumstance.
>
> Bob
>

If you're looking for a P&S digital camera, I suggest that you start
by asking if you'll be using the camera with or without a flash. With
a built-in flash, I've yet to see a good P&S. Without a flash, there
are dozens of good cameras to choose from. I love the Canon series,
because of the manual control, but surely you'll get as many opinions
as you do answers....

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