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Wednesday, June 13, 2012

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I'm hoping that this makes a little more sense to those of you who were questioning some things that I wrote previously. It explains the process I went through.

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I've been asked several times to further explain myself in regards to what I was teaching on "let us make man in our own image." I apologize for the misunderstanding I have caused. This happened because I have went through a change of thought and mind that others have not witnessed. My writings online are typically for the purpose of causing those outside of the message to think about their beliefs and present teaches based on scripture alone. However, many more message believers are beginning to read what I have written so I want to change my approach at this point in time.

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There are several different understandings of the beginning of the Son, whether he had a pre-incarnate existence or had his beginning in the womb of Mary. However, since how I came to my understanding should genuinely be questioned I wanted to submit the quotes and explanation below. This is not intended to tie all the loose ends together. This is the journey of understanding the Lord led me through.

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Most who are questioning already believe that there is one God and His Son, the Lord Jesus. Those who believe the Trinity or Jesus-only may be thrown for a loop by this, so approach this with that.

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I went through a process in understanding the Logos and the beginning of the Son of God. When I first began my walk in the message I viewed the Son as having a pre-incarnate state. However, there were several quotes that I began reading that made me uneasy with that understanding. Believe me, I wanted to keep things simple, but as I read these quotes my conscience began to be pricked that for some reason I was not seeing the whole picture. Basically, what began to get me thinking was the places you see below where bro. Branham states that the Logos is the Father, the Logos was the anointing upon Jesus and also that Melchisedec is the Father not the Son. How could I reconcile this with the fact that bro. Branham stated that the Logos that went out from God was the Son of God? I will submit to you the quotes below.

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Now, here's what happened. Oh... Excuse me; I--I--I just get on this... This just gets me right where I love it. See? The Logos, and this great Fountain; this great Fountain of Spirit which had no beginning or no end, this great Spirit begin to form in the creation; and the Logosthat wentout from It was the Son ofGod. It was the only visible form that this Spirit had. And It was a theophany, which means a body, and the body was like a man.Moses saw It when It passed through the--by--by the rock. And he looked at It, said, "It looked like the hind part of a man." It's the same type of body that we receive when we die here, "If this earthly tabernacle be dissolved, we have one already waiting." That was it. And that was the Theophany which was the Son ofGod. That Son, that Logos became flesh because we were put in flesh. And the Theophany, theLogos, became flesh here among us, and It was nothing else but the dwelling place; for that entire Fountain dwelt in Him. Oh, do you see it? There it is. That was the One that in.

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43 Jesus said, "Hear ye, O Israel, I'm the Lord your God," one God, not three gods. In Africa they baptize once for the Father, and once for the Son, and once for the Holy Ghost. And then a poor Jew comes around and say, "Which one of them is your God?" Which one is, the Father, Son, or Holy Ghost?" They're all three One. The Bible said they were One. Jesus was a house that God lived in; the Bible said that--that, I Timothy 3:16, "Without controversy (That's argument.) great is the mystery of godliness. For God was manifested in the flesh, seen of angels, received on, and preached, believed on, and received up into glory." God was. The Bible said, "His Name shall be called Emmanuel," which is by interpretation, "God with us." The Bible said that Jesus, in Him dwelt the Fullness of the Godhead bodily. As we had it the other night, God in the beginning was Spirit. And then from God went out the Logos, or the Theophany which was a form of a man called the Son of God (prefigured). He came in earth in a body of flesh, even before He came in Jesus Christ. Now, swallow that one once, brother. I'll prove it to you. When--when Moses saw Him, he said, "Let me see Your form, Lord." And God hid him in a rock.

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37 To misinterpret Jesus in the form of God in a man you would make Him--you would make Him one god out of three. To misinterpret Jesus Christ being the Word, you'd make Him one god out of three, or you'd make Him the second person in a godhead. And to do that, you'd mess the whole Scripture up. You'd never get nowhere. So It must not be misinterpreted. And if you say that a certain thing, you put an interpretation on It, and you apply It to another time or It's been applied to another time, you also make an incorrect interpreting. If anybody misinterpret Jesus Christ in the Bible of not being God Himself, make Him the second person, or, one god out of three, this would upset every Word in the entire Bible. It would break the first commandment, "Thou shalt not have any other god before Me." All right. It would make the whole Christian race a bunch of pagan worshippers worshipping three different gods. See what kind of a Bible you'd have? Then it'd make us what the Jews say we are: said, "Which one of them gods is your god?" See? So you see, you can't--you mustn't misinterpret the Bible, for Jesus Himself is the Interpretation of the Bible when He's made manifest in the age that the part of His Body is being made manifest. If it's a hand age, it must be a hand; it can't be a head age. If it's a voice age, well then, it can't be a foot age. See? And now, we're at the eye age.

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The Logos was the Son and the Logos is the only visible form of the invisible God. There are not two logos or three logos, just one. Then we find out that the Logos was called the prefigured Son of God. Also, to misinterpret the Son of God being the Logos would make him one God of out three. Of course, he said the Logos was the Son, but here he says there is a right way to interpret it and a wrong way to interpret it. Again, he says the Logos was the Son "prefigured." Here is the definition of prefigured.

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To follow that example of cubism; it did not exist at the time of Paul Cezanne, but his work spoke of it before hand and was the precursor to it. The Son of God had not been born at the time of Melchisidec or the time of the creation of the world, but the logos spoke of the Son of God before his birth. How can I saw the Son wasn't born yet? Please withhold judgment for now and wait until you read a few of the quotes below. The logos was the antecedant form or the model that foreshadowed the Son of God that was brought forth in the fulness of time, made of a woman, made under the law. (Gal. 4:4) God appointed the ages in the Son (Heb 1:2), God created the world by Jesus Christ (Eph. 3:9) and he is firstborn of all creation, the first born from the dead, he is before all things and by him all things consist. He was glorified before the world began. We also were glorified before the world began. (Rom 8:30, Heb. 4:3, John 17:22) We existed with him in the mind of God. The Lamb was slain in the mind of God before the world began. We were chosen in Christ before the world began.

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28 'Cause all this was in the Logos: the whole Word of God, the whole Bible, for every age. And as the Logos begin to breathe upon the earth, there come marine life, and building up to bird life, on up to animal life. And finally there come something in the representation, or looked like the thing that was brewing--brooding over it: God, a man in the very image of God. That man fell, like the seed has to fall. And then God begin to brood over that after the fall. He brought up a--a Enoch; He brought up Elijah; He brought up a Moses; He brought up prophet after prophet, trying to restore that image again. And, finally, upon the earth came the genuine Image of God Himself again, which was God, the Logos made flesh and dwelt among us. Now, that same Logos has a part; He's got a Bride, and the same Logos, this Word that cannot be tampered with, is brooding over the churches today, trying to bring back the Word to Its full manifestation. Which the--the prophets was carriers to that Seed, and the church denominations has been carriers to the Seed now. Now, notice quickly, but like the shuck hugs, holds in the Seed now, then it leaves her... Jesus was God. He was. His Father was the great Logos Itself. And He could not pour It all in Moses, for he was a prophet.

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The Son of God, who was born of a woman in the fullness of time, under the Law, is not one for one with the logos. The logos went forth in the beginning of time and that logos was the revelation of the Father and it was in fact the Father, but it foreshadowed or prefigured the Son of God. The Logos was in, upon and anointed Jesus.

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49 So I don't want to call myself anything but your brother. I am your brother, and you just regard me as Brother Bill, or Brother Branham, or whatever you want to do about that. That--that's fine. That's--that's any... What you believe, keep that to yourself. You see? And now, what was that other question? I get so wound up in these, I forget what the things were. One of them was, "Was I the Son of man?" and... Here it is I believe. "... the Son of man or was the Pillar of Fire the Son of man?" No. The Pillar of Fire is the Anointing. The Pillar of Fire... Now, this may go a little deep unless it's some of you theologians, Dr. Vayle, probably Brother here, and some of these ministers here from Arkansas, and the--my good friends around, they'd probably know. Now, that Pillar of Fire is the Logos that went out of God, the Logos, which is actually the attribute of the Fullness of God. When God become into a form to where It could be seen, It was the anointing of the great Spirit that went forth, Its condescending, coming down, God, the Father, the Logos that was up over Israel, that.

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50 He was holy, could not bear sin. There had to be a blood offering right in Eden. Then that Logos become flesh and dwelt among us; and where this Logos dwelt in a human body, which was the Sacrifice... When man was made in the image of God... And then God came down in the image of man to redeem man; that brought man and God together. Heavens and earth hugged and kissed each other; God and man embraced each other as Fatherhood and Sonship when the Logos became flesh and dwelled among us. Jesus said, "I came from God, and I go to God." Is that right? After His death, burial, resurrection, and ascension, when the body was taken up to set at the right hand of God... Now, I don't mean God's got a right hand; God's a spirit. But at the "right hand" means "in power and authority of God." That in that Name everything in heaven is named after It and subject to It. Everything in earth is named after It and subject to It, a Name above all names, Jesus Christ. Now, this Logos that was in Him, which was the Spirit of God, the Anointing, through the sanctifying grace of the Blood, brought many sons to God, which is anointed with this same Logos.

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51 Now, on the day of Pentecost It come down, that Pillar of Fire, and broke apart like that, and tongues of fire set upon each of them, not their tongues, but tongues of fire set upon each of them, a elected, selected group, identified by this Pillar of Fire, showing that God had separated Himself into man. Do you get it? God, the Logos, separating Himself into men; God, not in one person, He's in His Church universal. That's the reason Jesus said, "The works that I do shall you also, more..." Now, I know the King James says, "greater," but the right translation there is "more than this shall you do." God was bottled and confined in one Man, Jesus Christ. But now He's bottled and confined in the whole universal Church of the living God. Right now, while God is here speaking with us in our hearts, He's in Africa; He's in Asia; He's in Europe; He's in England. Wherever believers are gathered together, there He is in the midst of them. Now, after His death, burial, and ascension, and the coming of the Holy Ghost, Paul on his road down--which was Saul--to Damascus, he was struck down by a Pillar of Fire, the Logos. And that Jew would've never called that Pillar of Fire, "Lord," unless he knew It was the same Logos that his people followed through the wilderness. See? Now, that was not the Son of man; that was the Logos.