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You do realize that there is an entire history of Pagans being marginalized by monoculturalists, and one of the worst forms of that marginalization was that they were “Burnt at the Stake”? Perhaps if crimes against Pagans were not ongoing, we could easily (or not) dismiss such an outrageous and appropriating title. But considering that being a polytheist can have such strong repercussions still to this day, one would hope that worldwide communities would choose better titles for their posts.

Aoithoir: ‘Pagans’, ‘heretics’ and secular dissidents were at various times burnt at the stake. Listen again, you will find the phrase came up twice in the show in different contexts and not without shades of irony, as is common usage these days alongside many other descriptions of past atrocities. I am not aware of Pagans being burnt at the stake currently. RC

To be crude, if your girlfriend/boyfriend is a lousy lay, no amount of surgery or cosmetics will make him/her better in bed. Unity and Gnome are appearance factors. Does the distribution do what we need it to do, whatever it looks like??

“Aoithoir: ‘Pagans’, ‘heretics’ and secular dissidents were at various times burnt at the stake.”

Yes I know. So were homosexuals, midwives and other marginalized groups. I’m not sure why Pagans and heretics are in quotes in your statement.

“Listen again, you will find the phrase came up twice in the show in different contexts”

Yes. Here are the approximiate times and what was said.

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00:00:16 – Gives just the title of the podcast.

00:29:20 to 00:29:32 – Just because it’s old doesn’t mean its bad, it was a thing that made things easier. Why is that suddenly being burned at the stake. It reduces the number of clicks I need to do something.

01:25:26 to 01:25:33 And he has an IPhone and not an Android phone. (Groans). I know. (Groans.) Let’s burn him on a stake.
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You added in your reply to my comment:

“and not without shades of irony, as is common usage these days alongside many other descriptions of past atrocities.”

I hope that we can agree that just because something is common usage at any point, does not mean it *should* be common usage. I believe that such common usage is entirely problematic. In each case, the points could have been made without appropriating the history of marginalized peoples. For instance 00:29:20 could have been said something like:

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00:29:20 to 00:29:32 – Just because it’s old doesn’t mean its bad, it was a thing that made things easier. Why is that suddenly being *thrown out into the trash*. It reduces the number of clicks I need to do something.
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Appropriating the histories of marginalized persons in this fashion causes us to feel dismissed. It’s not only because of historic injustices, but ongoing, present circumstances that they (we) experience. I’m in no way suggesting this was your intent. I quite believe you had no such intent.

As I said in my original comment, “… Perhaps if crimes against Pagans were not ongoing, we could easily (or not) dismiss such an outrageous and appropriating title.”

Finally you said:

“I am not aware of Pagans being burnt at the stake currently. RC”

While we’re not burnt at the stake anymore, Pagans (and other marginalized groups) continue to face discrimination. We can be fired from our jobs, which threatens our very ability to live. We have faced arrest and conviction for crimes we’ve not committed. False accusations. Violence at the hands of persons who view our lifestyles as abominations.

It is because of these present day, ongoing circumstances, that comments used in such an offhand way, effectively comparing one thing (ease of use of a software program) to another entirely different thing (murder by torture) should be squashed from our language.

So my post I hope you understand was not accusatory and was rather attempting to be informative. It’s a request to consider in the future that such statements actually do form a part of the problem that marginalized persons experience.

Ultimately I agree with nearly all of the points you were trying to make in the podcast. I think the work you are doing is excellent. I appreciate it a lot. My hope is that you’ll understand that some of us really are still experiencing discrimination for our faiths, and such titles as your podcast, can and do hurt.

A idea on the notification end. Cant we have like a notification inbox at the bottom. or like a ticker of sorts. having them on the panel kind of drives me crazy. if you miss the initial indication its hard to see it then.

Bravo to Aoirthoir An Broc, for spouting off nonsensical bullsh*t that has absolutely nothing to do with GNU/Linux. The reason no one saw this as “problematic” is because no one cares. No one meant it to be offensive, no one cares (even if it was offensive), and frankly your over analyzations of the title post was the most poetic piece of redundant trash I have read in a really long time. No one cares that you are a pagan and from the way you write it is clear that you are prone to jump on any chance to exclaim that you are a pagan. Being a pagan is pretty much an anomaly and one thing i have noticed from talking to polytheists is their eagerness to flaunt and defend their religion thats in the minority (even when no one is intending to offend them or giving a sh*t). Meanwhile… back at fullcirclemagazine where we discuss GNU/Linux and not your basement dwelling, cheeto infested, hippie foundation that is your abode. Sure is carebear in here. I think they should make a wubi-like installer for more distros.

As for the little arrows, I think they should just highlight the open applications (much like Windows 7 does) and then add a color to the highlight for the active window. I like the fact that if the window requires your attention, it wobbles until you click on it. That should be sufficient.

I also agree that they need to change the way you can switch into (or between) multiple windows in one application (like having Thunderbird, a reminder, and an email composition all open at once). And they should fix the workspace switcher. I can see it being cut down to two clicks very easily. Click once on the icon to launch the switcher, and then click once on the workspace that you want. Even better would be to make the icon for the switcher into a dynamic icon (where you click on the workspace in the switcher and it automatically goes to that workspace–although this would be a problem for people who have more than four workspaces).

Have a great day:)
Patrick.

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