A slightly taken-aback MSNBC panel tried make sense of a highly contentious interview betweenDonald Trump and MSNBC’s Katy TurWednesday afternoon, with Chris Matthewsnoting that Trump took such personal vengeance upon reporters who crossed him that he was starting to resemble a Middle East dictator.

“He has a lot of information on everybody,” Matthews said. “He’s ready to go after a guy likeCharles Krauthammer. He’s already done the oppo on every journaist around. He’s ready with the worst stuff to throw at you.”