Daily News Thread 8/16

US govt demand for info on 1.3mn visitors to anti-Trump site is ‘abuse of authority’ – hosting firm

The Superior Court of DC has requested DreamHost to provide “all” information available to them about disruptj20.org, the website for organized protests against Trump’s inauguration on January 20. The company says the demand amounts to "investigatory overreach".rt.com/usa/399692-doj-requests-protesters-ip-addresses/

The US Coast Guard is searching for five people who were on board the UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter that went down in the Pacific Ocean west of the Hawaiian island of Oahu.rt.com/usa/399795-black-hawk-hawaii-crash/

China angered at U.S. criticism of religious freedom, says U.S. not perfect

China hit back on Wednesday at criticism by U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson of its record on religious freedom, saying the United States was not perfect and should be looking after its own affairs rather than making baseless accusations.reuters.com/article/us-usa-religion-china-idUSKCN1AW0TC

Richard Spencer Hides on His Roof From Angry Crowdbrings a smile to my face. between this, that video of the statue being toppled, and the fact baltimore was so shook they removed all of their in the middle of the night, I feel like things are about to start getting real smashy in the near future.

I hate to sound like a fucking Clintonite but at this point, it is very clear we are under rule of a fucking dementia addled President with anger management issues, who has been reduced to a toddler through stress.

Oh God yes. About 60 leftists marched like 5-6 blocks under the red flag, the DSA flag, the IWW flag, the SAlt flag, and the Black flag. Random pedestrians we're hopping in with us (we picked up 10-12 random along the way). Blocked one of the major thoroughfares in Alexandria. Some politician was there and led everyone in Solidarity Forever, which transitioned straight into a change of "NAZI SCUM FUCK OFF."

Cops bugged us a little when we were mourning at the farmers market with the wobbly medics that treated her. But they realized that they wouldn't be able to stop us, so they put a squad car in the travel lane to prevent us from getting run over while mourning someone who was just run over.

Holy shit. This right here is the news of the week. The U.S. openly favoring India against Pakistan in Kashmir is incredibly dangerous. It is probably at attempt to encircle China in anticipation of Chinese imperial expansion, but giving the shaft to Pakistan is going to cause serious instability in the direction of Iran and Afghanistan.

Can you expand on this more? I don't know very much about the India-Pakistan conflict, nor India-China's recent ones.

Antifa has been playing pretty smart the past couple days desu. I don't tend to like them that much because they can tend to shoot themselves in the foot. Let's hope they keep playing it safe and just stick to confederate statues.

Can you expand on this more? I don't know very much about the India-Pakistan conflict, nor India-China's recent ones.different user but America has always had to pull a weird balancing act when it comes to india/pakistan because they wanted both countries on their side during the Cold War (Richard Nixon loved Pakistan but JFK was really pro-India for example.) But right now China is trying to expand its geopolitical influence and forge better ties with Pakistan so the US is trying to counter them by favoring India more.When the war on terror first started maintaining healthy relations with Pakistan was a huge deal because it was supposed to be a moderate Muslim country and US partner against AL-Qaeda. But now America is drifting away from Pakistan, probably due to them hiding Bin Laden.

What Charlottesville demonstrates is the critical urgency of an immense political task for which there are no shortcuts. That the working class is an overwhelming force numerically goes without saying. But on the political front it lacks a mass, independent, organized expression, and on the economic front, is consistently sold short by the pro-capitalist labor leaders. The consciously organized working class, in the form of a mass socialist party, could stop a burgeoning fascist movement in its tracks. Most importantly, it alone can put an end to the impasse that has given rise to a resurgence of right-wing terror, by striking collective blows against the material basis of reaction.

The consciously organized working class, in the form of a mass socialist party, could stop a burgeoning fascist movement in its tracks.How the fuck could a socialist "mass party" stop fascism and how is such a thing even feasable? What year is this, 1916?striking collective blows against the material basis of reaction.What does this even mean? There's LARPing but this is some next level shit

How the fuck could a socialist "mass party" stop fascism and how is such a thing even feasable?

A large socialist party? What do you mean how is such a thing even feasible? - are you seriously saying that you cannot possibly imagine how a small socialist political organization could grow in number and support in the right conditions (e.g. the present political polarization in society) and with the right leadership?

> striking collective blows against the material basis of reaction.How is this LARPing? What would striking collective blows against the material basis of reaction mean? It would mean collectively dismantling the material basis of fascism; every ideology has a material basis. It would mean removing and debunking the myths and spin of the right wing, and offering instead to these people a concrete socialist set of ideas, and a party capable of putting these ideas into practice.

If you can't find sense to it, that's fine. My point is fascism doesn't offer a solution. And it actually just justifies already existing Capitalism, for which people know this century will be our own end.

As Media Matters reported, VDare recently announced, and started taking reservations for, its April 2018 conference at the Cheyenne Mountain Resort in Colorado Springs, CO. The event was scheduled to feature “a weekend of candor, fellowship, and top-notch speakers, as we celebrate the shifting political tides and discuss the way forward for patriotic immigration reform and American national identity.”

Those plans were canceled today by the resort, which is a part of Benchmark Resorts & Hotels. The resort emailed the following statement: “Cheyenne Mountain Resort will not be hosting the VDARE Foundation in April of next year. We remain committed to respecting the privacy of guests at the resort.”

Cloudflare CEO on Terminating Service to Neo-Nazi Site: 'The Daily Stormer Are Assholes'

"This was my decision. Our terms of service reserve the right for us to terminate users of our network at our sole discretion. My rationale for making this decision was simple: the people behind the Daily Stormer are assholes and I’d had enough."

4chan next?I hope so.The only way imageboards can be saved is by killing 4chan.The people who care enough for imageboards will make their own, and the newfags will fuck off to reddit.The only issue is that all /pol/yps will come here.

China hit back on Wednesday at criticism by U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson of its record on religious freedom, saying the United States was not perfect and should be looking after its own affairs rather than making baseless accusations.

They're not becoming SJWs, they're becoming worse. They've got all the same idpol obsessions except they like to scream about killing everyone, and now they are actually following through with this widely publicized domestic terrorism. The average joe doesn't like being told that reading comics or playing video games or watching movies makes him a vile subhuman pig, but he's not going to feel any more love toward a group that still shouts that everything he does makes him a vile subhuman pig but also points a gun at his head.

Can you expand on this more?India and Pakistan have been arguing over Kashmir since they split. The region is mountainous and has significant strategic military value. The citizens of Kashmir mostly favor Pakistan, and they have created resistence groups which fight with the Indian military. India accuses Pakistan of providing both material support and safe haven to the rebels, which is almost certainly the case. Both sides have frequently threatened war, but recently both Pakistan and India became nuclear powers. This has kept the conflict from boiling over into a full-scale war.

Throughout the conflict, the United States has vascillated between the two countries over the issue of Kashmir, playing the Clint Eastwood character in A Fistfull of Dollars. Now the Americans are declaring the Kashmiri militants to be illegitimate. That gives India tacit approval to control Kashmir. Pakistan is not going to take this lying down, and there is a good chance that–much as in A Fistful of Dollars–the Americans finally taking a side is going to mean a bloodbath.

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