yeah the cost of living is grossly inflated by people wasting money on drugs, tv, video games, fancy food etc. Minimum wage in USA is easily enough to get by, just not for an entire family (maybe think twice about having kids if you are planning on working for min)

"lol but everything here is 8 million times as expensive as a third world country idiot" Are you seriously trying to argue that you have it worse than a third world nation? or what? First, you would probably have a higher wage if there was no minimum wage (assuming you have some skills). Second, the minimum wage is plenty for someone willing to work FORTY hours a week (that is not a lot, especially relatively), live frugally and not provide for other people (who could just as easily get a minimum wage job).

"yeah the cost of living is grossly inflated by people wasting money on drugs, tv, video games, fancy food etc. Minimum wage in USA is easily enough to get by, just not for an entire family (maybe think twice about having kids if you are planning on working for min)"

At least you (probably) get hours in. I work at the Honey Baked Ham and my paychecks typically are puny as fuck (don't get much hours because this place isn't really crowded 90% of the time) except for the holidays.

how do you get 200 dollars a week?
It is at least 290 a week, and that is with only 40 hours and no tips etc. If you don't think you can get rent, food and light/water/trash bill for that you are just wrong. Cars are a luxury, take the fucking bus. Internet and cable should be considered a luxury too for most people who refuse to use public libraries.

because by the sound of today's US liberals you would think the poor in the US are suffering near as much as people in the third world. When in reality the best available jobs in 3rd world nations are total shit - for people literally dying to work. While here a significant problem is a bunch of lazy/whiny people (obviously not saying this applies to everyone, but its a huge problem nonetheless)

In Tulsa if you are on a bike you are one of three things: homeless, a college teen, or one of those rare people who view biking as a sport. We got those last kind a few square miles of a circle trail to go around that leads nowhere cuz Oklahoma drivers will not tolerate someone with a bike trying to go down the actual road on it

n Tulsa if you are on a bike you are one of three things: homeless, a college teen, or one of those rare people who view biking as a sport. We got those last kind a few square miles of a circle trail to go around that leads nowhere cuz Oklahoma drivers will not tolerate someone with a bike trying to go down the actual road on it

lol... exactly the same on most of the west coast

"SF and NY and maybe CHitown are the only spots where public transpo is adequate in the states" what are you talking about? every major city on the entire west coast has plenty of public transportation

"also people who need medication and shit on the regular cuz they have a mental illness or asthma or some shit are fucked on minumum wage especially if they get no damn benefits" That is already being covered, that is primarily what Medicaid is for.

"fuck off mitt Romney" I hate Romney, but how can you seriously expect other people to pay for what you are just not willing to work for?

Minimum wage by definition is supposed to be the minimum you can get by on, if you could live luxuriously on minimum wage - something is probably seriously wrong behind the scenes (as the Communists showed in the 20th century).

i can tell you the public transpo in LA is not adequate. urban sprawl for most major cities just doesn't support it.

Public transpo only really works adequately in densely packed areas. SF has a bus coming like every 15 min vs LA that
has one every hour in most spots. that's not even considering transfers and break downs and traffic. maybe you like
wasting your time waiting for buses, idk

yeah when I had to take the bus home from school, that fucker only came once per hour so if I missed it I just fuckin walked home cuz it took like 55 minutes and fuck waiting, but it really wrecked my feet oh man

"Minimum wage by definition is supposed to be the minimum you can get by on, if you could live luxuriously on minimum wage - something is probably seriously wrong behind the scenes (as the Communists showed in the 20th century)."

If you think minimum wage is a fair deal, then you should go talk to the crooked ass politicians of the nation and ask them how their pockets are so thick. You sound like you're vomiting text-book definitions of a capitalist system. It doesn't really work that way.

@dunpeal having an inadequate public transport system suggests that fixing the transport system would be wise, its irrelevant to minimum wage.

Minimum wage often isn't enough to raise a family, but that should not the aim of the law. Its better to have a market where employees bargain for wages ie in specific unions. If you leave wages up to local forces (like unions) it achieves better than minimum wages for those whose skills are actually useful (somewhat irreplaceable)