The NAICS code for this acquisition is 561612, Security Guard and Patrol Services. The size standard is $19 Million.

*facepalm*

Tip: $19 million size standard means that in order to qualify for a small business set-aside, competing companies need to have annual revenues of less than $19 million. (Although FBO says this will be an unrestricted full and open competition. No dollar value is mentioned, only base contract length and extensions.)

Joelogon's correction aside, $19 million is a drop in the federal budget that would cost more to eliminate even if it was 100% pork.

Not to mention, while I would at least advocate a proper risk assessment to make sure our security resources are allocated optimally, the premise that security money shouldn't go to Wisconsin or Minnesota on the grounds that they're Wisconsin and Minnesota is more or less the sort of sociopathic bile tearing this country apart by the foundation. Last I checked, Midwesterners are Americans too, subfarktard.

dragonchild:Joelogon's correction aside, $19 million is a drop in the federal budget that would cost more to eliminate even if it was 100% pork.

Not to mention, while I would at least advocate a proper risk assessment to make sure our security resources are allocated optimally, the premise that security money shouldn't go to Wisconsin or Minnesota on the grounds that they're Wisconsin and Minnesota is more or less the sort of sociopathic bile tearing this country apart by the foundation. Last I checked, Midwesterners are Americans too, subfarktard.

/ oo yah?

Orrrr, he's surprised that someone or some group would threaten Wisc and Minn, rather than a "more traditional" target.

The NAICS code for this acquisition is 561612, Security Guard and Patrol Services. The size standard is $19 Million.

*facepalm*

Tip: $19 million size standard means that in order to qualify for a small business set-aside, competing companies need to have annual revenues of less than $19 million. (Although FBO says this will be an unrestricted full and open competition. No dollar value is mentioned, only base contract length and extensions.)

To be fair, there is a local risk and a large terrorist target in Minnesota. There is a large Somali refugee concentration in Minnesota, and certain members of that community have been leaving to commit suicide bomb attacks back in Somalia. Potentially, instead of going there, they could engage in attacks right at home, such as at the Mall of America, doing a Kenyan style mall takeover and killing spree. A handful of dedicated people with some light weapons could cause massive damage and disruption, especially if this type of attack occurred during Black Friday or during the Christmas sales season.

Wow, Gogebic Taconite must really be paranoid about the Penokee Hills mine protesters that they paid off DHS to bring in even more mercenary goons to protect their mine sites from aging hippies and the local Native Americans.

Daedalus27:To be fair, there is a local risk and a large terrorist target in Minnesota. There is a large Somali refugee concentration in Minnesota, and certain members of that community have been leaving to commit suicide bomb attacks back in Somalia. Potentially, instead of going there, they could engage in attacks right at home, such as at the Mall of America, doing a Kenyan style mall takeover and killing spree. A handful of dedicated people with some light weapons could cause massive damage and disruption, especially if this type of attack occurred during Black Friday or during the Christmas sales season.

iheartscotch:19 million? 30,000 a year per officer; plus a huge, yearly bonus for the head guy; the rest would be for beak wetting. I love corruption!

30k (which is low, probably) is just the salary. You have to also figure in FICA, insurance, equipment, bonding, expenses, administrative costs, etc. Total lug for that kind of job could easily be 2.5-3x, which makes the cost to employ that security guy 75-90k. If the contract is $19M that's 210-250 security guys and doesn't include higher paid officers. To cover 2 states. States that have big bridges, water treatment plants, power plants, etc. In 8-hour shifts, that's enough to cover 70-85 sites with one individual, full time.

Aquapope:iheartscotch: 19 million? 30,000 a year per officer; plus a huge, yearly bonus for the head guy; the rest would be for beak wetting. I love corruption!

30k (which is low, probably) is just the salary. You have to also figure in FICA, insurance, equipment, bonding, expenses, administrative costs, etc. Total lug for that kind of job could easily be 2.5-3x, which makes the cost to employ that security guy 75-90k. If the contract is $19M that's 210-250 security guys and doesn't include higher paid officers. To cover 2 states. States that have big bridges, water treatment plants, power plants, etc. In 8-hour shifts, that's enough to cover 70-85 sites with one individual, full time.

Doesn't sound like enough dough for any worthwhile corruption.

Or do it the smart realistic way and just monitor members of the religion of peace

Their actions... i aslo have a "hate-on" for nazis, Klan, and other death cults but i doubt you see people asking what the deal with that is.Hard not to when you have seen it up close and personal like.

Daedalus27:To be fair, there is a local risk and a large terrorist target in Minnesota. There is a large Somali refugee concentration in Minnesota, and certain members of that community have been leaving to commit suicide bomb attacks back in Somalia. Potentially, instead of going there, they could engage in attacks right at home, such as at the Mall of America, doing a Kenyan style mall takeover and killing spree. A handful of dedicated people with some light weapons could cause massive damage and disruption, especially if this type of attack occurred during Black Friday or during the Christmas sales season.

Joelogon:HotIgneous Intruder: And all of this is SECRET, so nobody can talk about it.

I call bullshiat.Enough of this nonsense.

It's a notice of a contracting opportunity posted to FBO.gov. Historical contracting award data is available on FDPS.gov and USASpending.gov (example search for DHS contracts for Security Guards and Patrol Services in Minnesota). So which part of this is secret again?

Wasn't it the part where they said they would need to get "Top Secret" clearance?

Overfiend:deanis: Marine1: Shakin_Haitian: Rednecks have ample access to lots of fertilizer and they're super pissed that they've been subsidized for so long.

I wouldn't call Wisconsin or Minnesota redneck country.

Um, I grew up in WI and now live in MPLS. WI is Mississippi North at this point and North of the Twin Cities is Bachmann territory. There are PLENTY of rednecks here to worry about.

I've lived in Wisconsin for 42 years and I refute your claim.

There are some northern rednecks here, but "Mississippi North"?

You sound douchey.

Well I grew up in a town of 1,000 in NW WI. I think I know a thing or two about rednecks (unfortunately). I guess maybe our perception of what a redneck is could be different. Your probably butthurt because you would likely fall under most people's idea of redneckism.

deanis:Overfiend: deanis: Marine1: Shakin_Haitian: Rednecks have ample access to lots of fertilizer and they're super pissed that they've been subsidized for so long.

I wouldn't call Wisconsin or Minnesota redneck country.

Um, I grew up in WI and now live in MPLS. WI is Mississippi North at this point and North of the Twin Cities is Bachmann territory. There are PLENTY of rednecks here to worry about.

I've lived in Wisconsin for 42 years and I refute your claim.

There are some northern rednecks here, but "Mississippi North"?

You sound douchey.

Well I grew up in a town of 1,000 in NW WI. I think I know a thing or two about rednecks (unfortunately). I guess maybe our perception of what a redneck is could be different. Your probably butthurt because you would likely fall under most people's idea of redneckism.

Wow! You must be psychic! I am a huge fan of Nascar, I have "Git R Dun" tattooed on my arm and my house has a huge Confederate flag outside.

/or maybe your experiences with 1/5000th of Wisconsin's total population makes you and expert on the entire state.//you are definitely a douche