I bought the buck roar from primos, a while ago, and in this state, at least where I am, the bucks don't respond to the real aggresive roars, due to 5 does for every buck, but soft grunts on it work pretty good. I also own "The Can" from primos, and that is one call I will never enter the woods without, I have used that many times with great success. The first time I used the can, I was in the stand 10 minutes, and shot my first 8 pointer.