All this talk of Brocky getting screwed/raped is kinda disturbing. Paul (and Paul), in suit (and sportscoat) are live in the ring to discuss with Brocky, "live via satelite". Paul likes spanking and then he lays out his diabolical plan. Oh-oh, Brocky bought the last front-row seat for the PPV.

Ooo, BADGER coaches! Hey, the DO blur-out the turnbuckles during the "Raw" moments.

Billy, in black/purple full-cuts, wearing the belt, with seizure-inducing strobe, vs. Chavo, in blue/green trunks, wearing the tag belt, with a beard. Dang, that was sweet.

Edge chats to Mark. Man, that hat will JUST mess up your hair; I mean, you're INSIDE.

Tazz, in black suit, with orange handkerchief in his pocket, hosts something. JC, in wigger gear, with Bull, in yamaka and wifebeater, vs. Rikishi, in baggy blacks. Wait - I thought Rikishi almost died because of a HEART ATTACK. Man, that guy almost dies a lot.

All I really saw was the main event and the Torrie/Dawn bit at the end. Man, after the match just kept building and building and building, they just let all the air out of the show with that segment.

Is it just me, or has the whole Torrie/Dawn angle just been really flat the whole way? I mean, not even counting the horrible acting, it just doesn't seem like it's really built to anything, or even had a storyline. Just every week Torrie beats Dawn in some beauty pagent, or Torrie's dad hits on Dawn and Torrie is unhappy.

In any case, I'll shut up if they actually do deliver a payoff on the lesbian angle.

Those Torrie/Dawn Marie segments have no point. There's no blow off, there's no wrestlers feuding over the consequences of the actions of those two, there's nothing. Good thing the credits of Tough Enough just started when Torrie popped up on the television screen.

That main event was incredible. That's what WWE programming should be about. At least the Big Show is going to have a good match for once. We'll see how much of a miracle worker Kurt Angle really is.

Originally posted by VanillaSky"Let's do like Dean Malenko and keep the title on Kidman forever!"

Umm, dude, Kidman hasn't even had the title a month...

It's my Crystal Ball o' Wrestling... it's been on a roll for the past few months.I predict a ridiculously long title run for Kidman, since no one cares about the cruiserweight title, due to the dead crowd in the Guerrero/Kidman match.

-Albert v. Mysterio- I can't believe I'm saying this but this was actually a pretty damn good match. As good as I'd expect. The played up David vs. Goliath well... Saying that I'm not al Albert fan and not really looking forward to Edge v. Albert feud, but I'll allow myself to be won over.

-Stephanie interview- Stepho spread herself for Steiner. Wait wasn't she just on her period last week! uhh ohhh. Wait I smell something (no not that). I smell a SWERVE.

-Crash v. Noble- Wow did they really get only 2 minutes. Well atleast Crash's "What the hell was that!" finisher looked sweet. Speaking of sweet is Nidia the only decent woman on this entire show? She's the only one I'm interested in.

-Heyman/Lesner/Show- Why is it every time Lesner talks he seems less and less impressive and intimidating. Heyman like always was top notch cutting his promo on Lesner. Show kept quiet for the most part which is good.

-Kidman v. Chavo- This match was really great. The first time since the Invasion that I was into a Kidman match. Don't know how much that has to do with Billy or Chavo. The ending was super hot with the missed SHooting Star with CHavo hititng his move but a desperation foot on the rope by Kidman then hitting the Shooting Star. Great match. Kidman seems less lame now lol

-Hip Hop Challenge- Why do I get a shiver whenever I hear the word "retarded", and doing the 'retarded' hand jester makes matters WAY worse. They lost me after that.

-Angle v. Edge v. Benoit v. Eddie G- What an Amazing match, just spectacular. When all 4 guys were in it I loved how they all got there big highspots in on each other. (yes I mark out for that every time lol)... When Edge & Angle stayed the last two guys it was as good as any main event you can imagine. The crowd was into more then anyone can want(oh yeah they aren't ready yet, whatever). So many amazing near falls (I'm happy I didn't read spoilers) I was baiting on 3 or 4 of them. Major props to Cole/ Tazz they did an awesome job, one time in particular I remember Edge climbing the ropes slowly and Tazz & Cole were saying "This is a bad idea Edge, you're too hurt" and I'm sitting at home thinking "Yeah it is a bad idea that's right guys" lol and of course Edge hit it. Great job by the commentators. Amazing AngleSlam from the top as well for the finish.

Of course that's not the finish of the show, because for some goddamn reason the WWE feels the need to undermine every great main event with 2 minutes of bullshit. Hey you had to love after the 7/8 man tag ladder match on Raw with "Kaneah you're ah murdererah". Well this time we have 2 minutes of the dumbest, idiotic, worst performed outside the ring spots ever. Torrie has zero charisma. Torrie you could change your facial expression any time. I don't know how she did it but she made Dawn seem lame. Hell Victoria "taste of fear" on Stacy was 100X more interesting then this bull crap because STacy and Vickie have a thing called personality... Yo WWE want a suggusting stop with the homosexuality angles, try writing WRESTLING. Your writers can't even write straight couples they are way too stupid to write homosexual storylines. They even screwed up B/C when they lucked into it.

I wanted to give Dawn/Al/Torrie storyline a chance. It could have been "dumb fun" but over weeks they ruined it. It got more and more boring and lame. Like Mandark said it's like every week Torrie kicks Dawn's ass, Dawn makes out with Al, next week later gets humiliated again. The bad acting (even for wrestling standards) and Torrie personality (lack there of) makes things even worse, ah I've gone on too much on this idiotic story... Ok now I hear Benoit interview was AMAZING, it was okay but it wasn't anything that great. It was a decent interview. What is with the leather jacket but no shirt, oh yeah he's from Alberta that's church wear LOL.. Did Mark Loyd actually looked deep and passionately into Edge's eyes when Edge said "I'm focused look at my eyes"... Hugh Morrus keeps YELLING, it reassures me why I like RVD interviews because he doesn't' feel the need to YELL ALL THE TIME!.

Line of the night: Cole during main event "This is what Smackdown brings two guys in their prime and the top of their game" Smarky Me "Huh unlike the crap main event on Raw for the PPV with a guy who's returning after 5 years and another guy who's taken 11 months to get rid of ring rust."

edit in: Thank you Lawler wasn't announcing. Could you imagne the Torrie/ Dawn storyline being done with LAwler. He would have totally ignored the entire main event while asking "Has Torrie got to the hotel yet? Has Torrie gotten to the hotel yet?". It actually seemed Tazz and Cole no sold it the backstage segment. Which they deserve a huge gold star for that.

(edited by Net Hack Slasher on 6.12.02 0556)Oh they have the internet on computers now!

Originally posted by sheare: Steph going on about how she "sacrificed" herself to bring Steiner to Smackdown --

uh .... does that mean the sex was BAD???

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Stephanie is obviously just trying to get Eric to notice her again like he did at the Halloween Smackdown. She is even using Scott Steiner as a pawn in her quest to get Eric the Conqueror in the proverbial sack. She was hoping that Eric would get the hint and come back for the Christmas SD show and lay another smacker on her.

Hey Eric, Al F'n Thatcher-Wilson got the hint, why can't you?

"Oh, a handful of change. I guess I can use this to go...um...buy some candy. So thank you for adding a step to my Halloween process"- homestarrunner

I'm glad someone said it, Net Hack. Out of the non-wrestling Divas, Torrie Wilson is the most useless of all of them. Say what you want about Dawn Marie and Stacey Kiebler but at least they both have some charisma but Torrie doesn't have enough to make a convincing valet. There's more to being a valet than looking good (BTW, the fake boobs, fitness model look does nothing for me), that person most be able to draw heat. Dawn Marie done when she was with the Impact players, Stacey is doing it with Test and her various heel characters, and Nidia does it with Jamie Noble (although I hate the way they are toning down her character). When has Torrie draw any heat outside of a bikini contest?

There's a reason beyond good looks -- and her later drug problems and fall -- that people still refer to Sunny. Sunny was a good manager and had the charisma to draw heat during angles (let's not say anything about what she has become). The other women mentioned have the potential, particularly Nidia but I see no use for Torrie Wilson.

When has Torrie been given the opportunity to draw heat? She had great chemistry with Rey Rey in their mixed tag match and was pretty good with Rikishi as well. While her actual wrestling skills might not be up to par with the rest of the women, she doesn't exactly get a lot of time to practice either. If she's actually interested in wrestling, they need to transfer her (and possibly Nidia) over to Raw in exchange for Teri or Stacy. With a decent angle, Torrie could be over huge.

Originally posted by Wonderful1I'm glad someone said it, Net Hack. Out of the non-wrestling Divas, Torrie Wilson is the most useless of all of them. Say what you want about Dawn Marie and Stacey Kiebler but at least they both have some charisma but Torrie doesn't have enough to make a convincing valet. There's more to being a valet than looking good (BTW, the fake boobs, fitness model look does nothing for me), that person most be able to draw heat. Dawn Marie done when she was with the Impact players, Stacey is doing it with Test and her various heel characters, and Nidia does it with Jamie Noble (although I hate the way they are toning down her character). When has Torrie draw any heat outside of a bikini contest?

There's a reason beyond good looks -- and her later drug problems and fall -- that people still refer to Sunny. Sunny was a good manager and had the charisma to draw heat during angles (let's not say anything about what she has become). The other women mentioned have the potential, particularly Nidia but I see no use for Torrie Wilson.

Wonderful1

Seeing that last segment of Smackdown made me think about Sunny's glory days. All she had to do is be funny and lead three teams to gold (body Donnas, Godwinns, Smoking Gunns). She had that businesswoman vibe to her. Not just feminine wiles (as they'd call it), but she was a manager for the sake of managing. Her and Missy Hyatt are something today's divas could only dream of. Nidia's pretty close to that too.

DETROIT WHAT! Ya know, I got to thinking...for a weekend that was missing Joe, Dragon, Rave, Morishima and the first night having the life sucked out of it after Mark's injury I'd have to say it was incredibly solid.