Just woke up. I work third shift so I needed some sleep. Got about 3 hours. It's going to be a long night, but I just don't see how I could get much more sleep at this point.

Going to vote around 5:30pm. I live in DC on a Seminary campus and we're having a 'let's not all hate each other after the election' service at 5:00pm. Sadly we aren't representative of the country, and I wager a lot of people will be full of hate and vitriol after things wrap up tonight.

I would expect Romney won't conceded early as it makes him look less legitimate (and by extension the entire party) so it will drag on, and on, and on...

Hopefully I'll get to see the final call later tonight with some of my students.

Hugh2d2:I can't figure why ANYONE with a daughter would vote for Romney.

Heh - sounds like you eavesdropped on my conversation with my dad.

He asked me why the hell would I vote for Obama again? I'm all - uh Dad...do you not get how the GOP views me? I'm a 40 something divorced middle-aged woman and who had a college education and makes a good living: I have no place in GOP America. When the GOP can convince me that their version of smaller government doesn't mean one that will fit in my uterus, I'll give them some consideration.

I am very angry with the GOP for hijacking my once very cool dad and replacing him with a replicant.

There are not 2 choices for president. There are 6 candidates. Vote for which best represents you and your beliefs, not who you are told will or should win.

(As a former Obama voter, may I direct my fellow disillusioned Democrats toward Ross Anderson of the Justice party...)

hmm, not in NC there isn't. We had two choices.

I'm in North Carolina, and I had more than two choices on my ballot for President. I don't remember seeing Ross Anderson's name, but I did see Gary Johnson and Jill Stein as options.

Odd, I'm in NC as well, but I only saw Gary Johnson as an alternative to obama/romney. Would've definitely considered voting for Jill Stein if she had been on my ballot. Maybe it's a county by county thing?

skullkrusher:imontheinternet: Doing the right thing is pulling your head out of the sand, looking at the differences between the candidates, which are real and easy to find, and then making a decision based on which candidate shares your views. Waiving off the candidates by saying, "they're all the same and corrupt anyway" is a cop-out. Full stop.

You want to know the "cop-out"? It is everyone who equates "both sides are undesirable" or "I don't match up well with either party" with "both sides are the exactly the same". Far too many use that to waive off valid concerns about "your" candidate. LOL objectively false! It's bullshiat. We're not saying they're "the same" except in how we find them both undesirable.

Every candidate is not equally bad. Pretending that they are is an objectively false cop-out. If you think there should be some perfect candidate who is tailor-made to match your views exactly, you're living in Magic Fairyland.

robsul82:Car_Ramrod: Giuliani just said on CNN that Benghazi is the most important issue in this election.

Which begs the question: WHY THE FARK IS GIULIANI STILL ALLOWED ON TV?

Guiliani saying the Sandy response was worse than Katrina and demanding Obama's resignation over Benghazi...that dude is one giant political hack at this point, lol, damn.

That part particularly smacked my gob. Is he not aware the high marks Obama and the federal government received on their response to Sandy? High marks given by the American people at large, and people not exactly friendly to Obama such as Chris Christie. To claim Obama and FEMA failed in their response is to completely ignore reality in favor of political rage. The woman interviewing him just kinda stood there, not sure how to respond. I wonder if she thought about bringing up counterpoints and just decided, "fark it", but knowing CNN, it's not their business to challenge talking points.

imontheinternet:skullkrusher: imontheinternet: Doing the right thing is pulling your head out of the sand, looking at the differences between the candidates, which are real and easy to find, and then making a decision based on which candidate shares your views. Waiving off the candidates by saying, "they're all the same and corrupt anyway" is a cop-out. Full stop.

You want to know the "cop-out"? It is everyone who equates "both sides are undesirable" or "I don't match up well with either party" with "both sides are the exactly the same". Far too many use that to waive off valid concerns about "your" candidate. LOL objectively false! It's bullshiat. We're not saying they're "the same" except in how we find them both undesirable.

Every candidate is not equally bad. Pretending that they are is an objectively false cop-out. If you think there should be some perfect candidate who is tailor-made to match your views exactly, you're living in Magic Fairyland.

Nah, he's just being ol' skully like usual. He types with one pinky raised into the air.

Car_Ramrod:Giuliani just said on CNN that Benghazi is the most important issue in this election.

Which begs the question: WHY THE FARK IS GIULIANI STILL ALLOWED ON TV?

He was on MSNBC earlier saying FEMA's lack of response to Sandy was the most important issue. And yes, he brought up 9/11. Apparently, he did much better making sure FEMA responded properly to the attacks that affected Lower Manhattan than Obama has done with Sandy affected several states. Oh, and Obama's response to Sandy was worse than Bush's response to Katrina. Oh, and Staten Island feels a bit like New York's red-headed stepchild but Giuliani always made sure the borough knew he loved them when he was mayor. Apparently, Giuliani has learned quite a bit about flip flopping and lying from Romney this year.

Tried to post this earlier from my phone but apparently it didn't take.

California transplanted in Texas. Voted last Saturday and it was a piece of cake. I think I am the only white male in south Texas who voted for Obama.

I do have to say that I get some small joy trolling some knuckle dragger down here whose vote is canceled out by my own.

The Fox News guys are really going hard right now with the "thousands is incidents" of voting problems, all of which have to do with fraud and electioneering benefiting Obama. They even got a photo of the New Black Panther guy in Philly. I mean, he is standing by himself out in front of some building. What with his beret and all, he is quite menacing! Oddly, though, no mention of the non-imaginary, very real ACTUAL voter suppression that has been the goal of the GOP this entire election cycle. See also the Ohio voting machines thread from last evening. Fox still hasn't heard about that...

Corvus:KarmicDisaster: whizbangthedirtfarmer: So. At the gym, they had on FOX, and they were predicting a 315 EV "landslide" for Romney. Will they still call it a landslide if Obama wins by 315 or more?

BeatrixK:Hugh2d2: I can't figure why ANYONE with a daughter would vote for Romney.

Heh - sounds like you eavesdropped on my conversation with my dad.

He asked me why the hell would I vote for Obama again? I'm all - uh Dad...do you not get how the GOP views me? I'm a 40 something divorced middle-aged woman and who had a college education and makes a good living: I have no place in GOP America. When the GOP can convince me that their version of smaller government doesn't mean one that will fit in my uterus, I'll give them some consideration.

I am very angry with the GOP for hijacking my once very cool dad and replacing him with a replicant.

Oh, FFS. It was a poorly calibrated touchscreen. It didn't change the vote. It wasn't like Obama was actually selected on screen, and then the machine flipped it to Romney. They tapped Obama, and it selected Romney. If they had tapped the button for Jill Stein, Obama would have been selected.

So, yes it should be taken out of service, but let's not attribute to malice that which can be adequately be explained by a poll worker messing up the settings. Hell, I'm amazed the damn things work at all, given the average technical expertise on display at most polling places.

Seriously - when is the last time you have had to calibrate a touchscreen? When we were using them in medical environments in 2000 we didn't need to calibrate them - you ran them at their normal resolution and they "just worked." The last touchscreen I've actually had to calibrate was back in the late 90's, and that was on a windows CE phone.

And based on his troubleshooting "miscalibration" doesn't seem to be correct. If it was, when he pressed on the Jill Stein button, it should have registered for Obama (screen miscalibrated on the Y axis). In his case he had to go push a nonsensical area of the screen to get it to work for Obama, while all other buttons worked correctly. That doesn't sound like a miscalibration to me - does it sound like one to you? When you have a cartesian plane defined in software (calibrated), you don't suddenly lose a section of it and place it somewhere else on the plane - the whole plane shifts.

They've been around the Green Bay suburbs since at least September. I've seen people wearing them at the YMCA/gas stations. Best one was outside my son's school picking up their kid. He got some weird stares but no one said anything.

imontheinternet:Every candidate is not equally bad. Pretending that they are is an objectively false cop-out. If you think there should be some perfect candidate who is tailor-made to match your views exactly, you're living in Magic Fairyland.

And don't understand how a Democracy works.

I find a lot of third party people don't really understand how democracy works. They think because lots of people need to compromise on a candidate it means it's a failure, where that is actually the goal of a democracy.

It's not to come up with the candidate YOU like the best. It's to get a candidate that a majority (or plurality I know some pedantic fark will flip out if I don't say that) can settle with.

killershark:Car_Ramrod: Giuliani just said on CNN that Benghazi is the most important issue in this election.

Which begs the question: WHY THE FARK IS GIULIANI STILL ALLOWED ON TV?

He was on MSNBC earlier saying FEMA's lack of response to Sandy was the most important issue. And yes, he brought up 9/11. Apparently, he did much better making sure FEMA responded properly to the attacks that affected Lower Manhattan than Obama has done with Sandy affected several states. Oh, and Obama's response to Sandy was worse than Bush's response to Katrina. Oh, and Staten Island feels a bit like New York's red-headed stepchild but Giuliani always made sure the borough knew he loved them when he was mayor. Apparently, Giuliani has learned quite a bit about flip flopping and lying from Romney this year.

I remember when Giuliani was still mayor, appearing on SNL, and people were like, "Run for President? Why not?"

I hate you...I have it sitting at my gaming desk at home...ready to go.

I haven't played Halo since Halo 2

I've never played Mass Effect.

Do you recommend Halo 4 or Mass Effect Trilogy?

Discuss

i just played Mass Effect for the first time- it's freaking great - though the main plot line is kinda short - i completed it & didn't realize the game just ended (was hoping to be able to still bump around and do misc. tasks - but no... unless i'm missing something)

will probably play through again & from what i understand, you get to progress the same character into Mass Effect 2 & 3 - which is super cool.

halo is halo - awesome, but getting pwned by 10 year olds with squeaky voices and a list of curse words longer than you can imagine can get old.

/on topic - haven't voted yet//booga booga booga

Mass Effect isn't really short per se... and it's very obvious you've reached the end when you have. If there wasn't any "closure" involving the Council and the Citadel, you might have missed something.

***spoiler of old ass game***

i'm pretty sure i reached the end - the credits rolled

& then it said i unlocked levels 51-80 (i think) & something like "hardcore" difficulty

does that mean i can continue or do i have to start over with a new character?

Yeah if you reached the credits it's done. It just didn't strike me as short but then again I'm OCD so I visited all the little asteroids and got all the secrets, plus played the DLC.

imontheinternet:skullkrusher: imontheinternet: Doing the right thing is pulling your head out of the sand, looking at the differences between the candidates, which are real and easy to find, and then making a decision based on which candidate shares your views. Waiving off the candidates by saying, "they're all the same and corrupt anyway" is a cop-out. Full stop.

You want to know the "cop-out"? It is everyone who equates "both sides are undesirable" or "I don't match up well with either party" with "both sides are the exactly the same". Far too many use that to waive off valid concerns about "your" candidate. LOL objectively false! It's bullshiat. We're not saying they're "the same" except in how we find them both undesirable.

Every candidate is not equally bad. Pretending that they are is an objectively false cop-out. If you think there should be some perfect candidate who is tailor-made to match your views exactly, you're living in Magic Fairyland.

Pretending I said they are when I just said the opposite in the very post to which you responded is dishonest and feeble.Try harder.