I have a new keggle and 5 gal cooler with SS braid and am trying to attempt an AG Saturday. It is a Dry Stout with 10.75 lbs of grain.

I realize it has a lot to do with my system, but Iím having a hard time grasping the amount of water I will need for this. Recipe calls for 1qt/lb, 6.25gal wort total, boil down to 5.25gal. Using BeerSmith, I was thinking more on the lines of 1.25 qt/lb, 6gal wort total, boil down to 5 gal.

BeerSmith has me doing 2 ďroundsĒ of sparging I assume because the amount of sparge water plus grain wonít fit in a 5 gallon cooler. For those of you with the 5 gallon cooler do you do this, or do you mash with more water to lessen the amount of sparge water needed? I have read so much more about doing just one sparge and am a little weary about 2 separarate sparges.

Also, if Iím trying to figure this out with 10.75 pounds of grain, how is it that some on this forum are using the 5gal cooler with up to 12-14lbs of grain? Thanks

BeerSmith has me doing 2 “rounds” of sparging I assume because the amount of sparge water plus grain won’t fit in a 5 gallon cooler. For those of you with the 5 gallon cooler do you do this, or do you mash with more water to lessen the amount of sparge water needed? I have read so much more about doing just one sparge and am a little weary about 2 separarate sparges.

I'm new to AG brewing, but I did a lot of research on it before attempting it the first time... specifically, I read a lot about batch sparging.

Every source source I found said that you want your initial run-off volume and your batch sparge run-off volumes to be equal.

At first, I thought this implied that you needed to do one round of sparging. However, some other sources I read indicated that you want your initial run-off to be half of the total volume, and your sparge run-off (which can be done in multiple batches) to make up the other half of the volume.

This is a moot point for me b/c I have a 10 gallon cooler, but from what I have read you should be OK doing multiple rounds of sparging.

If you use equal volumes for mash and sparge then tour first run of will possible be half your second run off due to dead space in the mash tun and absorption.

That's kind of where the "I" in the equations comes in.

When I did my AG a few weeks ago, I faked a "mash-out" and added more water (the "I" amount) to my mash before taking the first runnings so that my initial run-off (R1+I) and sparge run-off (S1) were equal volumes (0.5V).

I have done about 10 all grains batch sparged beers and here is what I have learned in the process. As a general rule you want to do 2 sparges and get about the same volume from both.

In the initial few batches you will learn about how your system works. You will need to know how much evaporation occurs during a one hour boil, you have to figure for grain absorbtion and dead space in your equipment. Your effeciency is usually not the best on the first try.

I don't think it would make a great deal of difference whether you use 1 or 1.25 quarts of water per gallon for your initial mash infusion. I use 1.2 quarts per pound. I have found that the grain absorbs roughly .12 quarts per pound. I have about a pint of dead space that will not drain no matter how high I tilt the cooler.I would also plan on a finished wort of 5.5 gallons which should yield a good 5 gallons of finished beer come bottling or kegging time.

Let's say you want 7 gallons of wort to boil.

1. 10.75 * 1.25 = 3.35 gallons of strike water.
2. The grain absorbs 10.75 * .12 = 1.3 gallons
3. 3.35-1.3 = 2.05 which means you will need to add 1.5 gallons of 185-190 degree water at the end of the 60 minute mash to yield 3.5 gallons for the first runnoff. This gets the grain temp up a bit. Stir thoroughly for 3-5 minutes and then begin the runoff. Make sure the runoff runs clear before you collect the wort in the kettle. Vorlauf it.
4. The second runoff is just 3.5 gallons to get to the 7 gallon mark. I usually have the water at around 185 degrees and stir thoroughly before the runoff.

Also, if Iím trying to figure this out with 10.75 pounds of grain, how is it that some on this forum are using the 5gal cooler with up to 12-14lbs of grain? Thanks

Joe

Simple answer is I fly sparge where you continually add sparge water as you drain the wort. With this technique, you need very little space in the tun, but batch sparging is probably easier (and definitely quicker) especially if there is enough space in the tun for the sparge water.