Robert F. Kennedy Jr. talks about link between ingredient in vaccines and autism

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SALT LAKE CITY -- A member of the Kennedy family stopped in Park City Monday night to lend his voice to the ongoing debate over vaccines and autism.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. attended a screening of a new documentary, “Trace Amounts.” The film explores the theory that there is a link between Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) and an ingredient in vaccines called thimerasol.

It’s told through the eyes of the filmmaker, Eric Gladen, who said he suffered mercury poisoning after receiving a Tetanus shot in 2004.“If somebody can show me a single study, one study, if any of the doctors you’ve mentioned can show me a single study that shows that thimerasol is safe, I will go on Anderson Cooper and publicly apologize. I challenge you. Find me one study.” ~Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

“Thimerasol is a potent neurotoxin that is linked to all these neurological disorders that are now epidemic in American children,” said Kennedy, who penned a book on the topic last year.

Thimerasol is a preservative that contains mercury. Between 1999 and 2001, it was removed or reduced to trace amounts in vaccines given to kids under the age of 6, but it still exists in the flu vaccine.

“If somebody can show me a single study, one study, if any of the doctors you’ve mentioned can show me a single study that shows that thimerasol is safe, I will go on Anderson Cooper and publicly apologize,” Kennedy told FOX 13. “I challenge you. Find me one study.”

Since 2003, the Centers for Disease Control has funded or conducted at least five studies that found no link between thimerosal containing vaccines and ASD.

One study published in the American Journal of Preventative Medicine reviewed data from Denmark and Sweden, which stopped using thimerosal in 1992. It compared the rate of ASD in both countries before and after the ingredient was removed. Researchers found ASD rates increased between 1987-1999.

“We don’t know which environmental factors are playing major roles, but we know for certain that it’s not vaccinations at this stage,” said Chris Gregg, Ph.D, neurobiologist at the University of Utah’s Autism Spectrum Disorder clinic.

However, Kennedy argued research showed a 33 percent drop in the autism rate in Denmark after they eliminated the ingredient. Amidst the growing debate, he has found growing research he believes supports his argument.

“We compiled all the science on thimerasol, all that we could find. We found somewhere near 500 peer reviews and 1,400 references,” Kennedy said. “We piled those studies on CDC’s desk and said, ‘Here are the studies that show this is destroying our children’s brains.’”

70 comments

bob

Kooks. There is less mercury in a vaccine dose than in a single tuna sandwich. That’s a fact.

The “autism connection” was a deliberate HOAX perpetrated by a British law firm, with the cooperation of a crooked doctor, to trump up a lawsuit. The doctor who published the “study” did time in PRISON for it.

The U.S. is the only country where people still believe that hoax. And Kennedy is a fraud, himself. Ask him why his family has fought so hard against a wind energy project just because some of the windmills might have been visible from their Cape Cod compound on a clear day.

There is NO connection between vaccines and autism. None. Zip. Never was.

aubreywursten

I am appalled at the damage that one doctor has managed to do! HOW has his work managed to maintain so much momentum? I suggest that people researching this issue look into the origin you have discussed.

Tony Bateson

Bob’s comment is wholly illiterate, Wakefield didn’t go to prison nor did he say anything about mercury. Nor for that matter is the mercury contained in a tuna sandwich the same as the ethyl mercury (lumber preservative and shelf life product) that is injected directly into the bloodstream of tiny infants. Bob knows little or nothing about this subject and he should shut up until he does, if ever.

bepatienz

Mr. Bateson, have you yet distributed the prize that you promised to anyone who could produce an unvaccinated individual with ASD? Kim Stagliano, the anti-vaccine activist who has two vaccinated children with ASD and a younger, unvaccinated daughter with ASD, could likely use the money.

The Yakima Kid

I see you haven’t given your prize that you promised to anyone who could produce an autistic child that has not been immunized – and we ALL know for a fact that Kim Stagliano has an autitistic, unvaccinated child.

Dr. Wakefield was paid over 400,000 pounds by a trial lawyers group to perform his “research.”

Between July 2007 and May 2010, a 217-day “fitness to practise” hearing of the UK General Medical Council examined charges of professional misconduct against Wakefield and two colleagues involved in the paper in The Lancet.[88][89] The charges included that he:
“Was being paid to conduct the study by solicitors representing parents who believed their children had been harmed by MMR”.[88]
Ordered investigations “without the requisite paediatric qualifications” including colonoscopies, colon biopsies and lumbar punctures (“spinal taps”) on his research subjects without the approval of his department’s ethics board and contrary to the children’s clinical interests,[88] when these diagnostic tests were not indicated by the children’s symptoms or medical history.
“Act[ed] ‘dishonestly and irresponsibly’ in failing to disclose … how patients were recruited for the study”.[88]
“Conduct[ed] the study on a basis not approved by the hospital’s ethics committee.”[88]
Purchased blood samples—for £5 each—from children present at his son’s birthday party, which Wakefield joked about in a later presentation.[88]
“[S]howed callous disregard for any distress or pain the children might suffer”[18]

Wakefield denied the charges;[90] on 28 January 2010, the GMC ruled against Wakefield on all issues, stating that he had “failed in his duties as a responsible consultant”,[13] acted against the interests of his patients,[13] and “dishonestly and irresponsibly” in his controversial research.[14] On 24 May 2010 he was struck off the United Kingdom medical register. It was the harshest sanction that the GMC could impose, and effectively ended his career as a doctor. In announcing the ruling, the GMC said that Wakefield had “brought the medical profession into disrepute,” and no sanction short of erasing his name from the register was appropriate for the “serious and wide-ranging findings” of misconduct.[19][91] On the same day, Wakefield’s autobiography, Callous Disregard was published, using the same words as one of the charges against him (“he showed callous disregard for any distress or pain the children might suffer”).[18] It argued that he had been unfairly treated by the medical and scientific establishment.[92]

Bob, I love facts! Go ahead and post where this illusive fact resides. My son is autistic and had his immunizations. In a previous relationship, my stepson had a negative reaction to an immunization leaving him deaf and in need of special education. Since my son’s reaction, I do not have my son or daughter followup unless my freedom in America is threatened with jail (imagine that). We do not participate in the ever trending flu vaccine and do not get sick. You do with yours what you will and give us our rights to choose back.

bob

The Yakima Kid

Well, I posted some facts, complete with links to references.
I will also note that when I was in high school a friend of mine lost her hearing to the measles. She had loved playing the flute and studying languages. Deafness ended all of that for her.

A male friend of my brother’s lost his fertility to mumps, another one of those “harmless” childhood diseases.

And I had friends who had had polio. Have you even heard of post-polio syndrome?

The problem is that anyone under about age 60 has very little idea of how horrendous these diseases can be. One problem in some hospitals is that children with whooping cough aren’t promptly diagnosed because doctors today haven’t seen a case. One hospital had a very old, semi-retired physician who by chance was walking through the ED and was able to immediately recognize it. He hadn’t seen it since medical school.

And the science on the safety of immunizations and the lack of any association whatsoever between immunizations and autism is far more established than the science regarding global warming. Young Mr. Kennedy should take his own advice and follow the science.

Twyla

The Yakima Kid

Amen, say it again. What appalls me is that the media actually gives time to scientifically illiterate celebrities like Joe Scarborough, Jenny McCarthy, and Robert Kennedy, Jr. to spread conspiracy theories and myths.

Mr. Kennedy is particularly disingenuous – the science concerning the purported autism link to immunizations is far more settled than the climate change matter – yet he insists that people “follow the science” for one while disputing the far more settled matter of immunizations.

There have been at least *six* studies that have found no link whatsoever between autism and immunizations. The one study that claimed to have found a link was not only fraudulent, but was funded by a trial lawyers group. The coincidence between the usual age of diagnosis for autism and the MMR and other immunization schedules leads to parents associating one with the other; one might as well blame toilet training, which also coincides with that age range. Correlation is NOT causation.

Emma

Get a reality check people! Big Pharmas main priority is to make more profit and sell sell sell, and they’re doing it very well. There is a drug for everything theses days. Who’s grandparents took prescription meds or vaccines? Get it right people! Eat clean and healthy and stop relying on drugs, vaccines and preservatives, because ever since they come on the scene we developed more cancers, diabetes, food intolerances, allergies, and the list goes on. This stuff isn’t natural – so of course our bodies are going to retaliate. Get it?! Isn’t that evidence enough?

Emma

bob

As the father of a boy with autism I’ve followed this issue closely for 19 years now. Autism is NOT increasing. The DEFINITION of “autism” has been greatly expanded. And it has expanded in direct proportion to the amount of public money available to “study” and “treat” it. (Big surprise.)

The Yakima Kid

Very true. I suggest that everyone here who thinks that autism is somehow dramatically more common than formerly look for the film “In Our Care” on the internet and watch it. This film was made by the state or Oregon and is about the former Fairview Home for the retarded. Watch the film, you will see many children with behaviors that today would lead to a diagnosis of autism rather than the then diagnosis of mentally retarded.

Emma

The Yakima Kid

No. My husband wouldn’t like it, and neither would Bob’s wife.
Please, go back to the miasma theory of disease. With any luck, you’ll be teaching us the joys of the four humors, vitalism, and spontaneous generation. Extra credit for assuming all diseases are caused by demons.

Blessedbee

Injecting mercury and aluminum into our children’s or our own bloodstream is criminal. Aluminum and mercury are known neurotoxins. They are nerve poisons. This is SCIENTIFIC knowledge. There have been NO tests comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated children to show whether there are difference in nervous system disorders and auto-immune diseases.
I am pro-vaccine. I am also against poisons to the nervous system being injected into the bloodstream. The vaccines available to the public are full of these disease-causing poisons. Nervous system disorders include Multiple Sclerosis, Parkinsons, Guillam Barre Syndrome, Alzheimer’s, etc. We need clean (safe) vaccines, which are only available to the very wealthy and those educated enough to demand them. The cheap vaccines are made in such mass quantities, that they need aluminum and mercury and formaldehyde to kill all the bacteria that get into the vaccines because of a less-than perfectly sanitary production area. Truly educated people don’t deny the science. Doctors used to warn pregnant women not to eat too much fish because of the mercury. Now the CDC demands that doctor recommend mercury be injected into pregnant women (in flu shots) which puts this poison directly into the fetus’s nervous system. But toxic poisons injected into your baby are SAFE AND EFFECTIVE because pharmaceutical companies and the government say so. And so do the scientists who get their funding from the government. Do the research, then decide. Do not allow the trolls hired by pharmaceutical companies to bully you into destroying your child’s future.

Emma

Yes, but when Mercury and aluminium are injected into blood they are absorbed and very dangerous. When you ingest, they are not. And vaccines are not safe, that’s never been proven that they are safe. How old are you bob or do you work for big pharma?

bob

Twyla

We received far fewer vaccines in the 1960’s, 1970’s, and 1980’s. But if you visit your local cemetery you’ll find that graves for babies from those decades are extremely rare. Yes, if you go to cemeteries from 100+ years ago that’s another story. Since then we have plumbing, antibiotics, and many other changes.

oceangirl26

I agree, if I had my life again, our 5 children would never had been vaccinated. I blame the vaccines for our eldest daughters auto immune disorder which lead to type 1 diabetes, and her being unable to conceive. Argue with me but it is a fact. Maybe some of you who are ignorant should go to http://www.mercola.com

The Yakima Kid

Yeah, I went to your suggested website. It’s the one with the kooks opposed to the rabies immunization. I’ve had to have the rabies series twice – and once the irresponsible pet owner was outraged that her cat was going to be quarantined because her cat “didn’t get into fights.” (Her cat had dropped the bat it had caught onto my foot. The bat climbed my leg, and I got to have the series. Apparently she believed that the bat couldn’t give the cat rabies because the cat didn’t get into fights with other cats. This within two miles or so of Stanford.)

I think I have dealt with every sort of scientific and technical ignoramus on the planet by now. It isn’t fun.

bob

Trevor

Funny that my brothers and I all had the same vaccines, yet I was the only one who fell into the autism spectrum. This whole debate about the mercury is hogwash. Sheeple are the ones that are keeping this alive when science has disproved it over and over again.

Case

Soetoro

I am very thankful he is bringing attention to this important issue! The CDC has gone out of their way to avoid doing the one study that could settle this. That would be a study comparing the various health outcomes (including autism) of vaccinated vs NEVER vaccinated children (using the US vaccine schedule, and using proper placebos). Until that is done, there is NO defense of the current, bloated schedule they are inflicting on American children. It’s obvious not all people respond identically to a particular medical intervention. Vaccines can be good, but they also carry significant risks for some people. It’s time to stop denying the harm they are causing to too many, and develop a safer strategy.
The drug companies currently enjoy COMPLETE LIABILITY PROTECTION from any harm that comes from any vaccine (including death). As things currently stand, there is no incentive to create a safer vaccine schedule or safer vaccines, as there is absolutely no punishment for vaccines that are unsafe. Injured children seem to be acceptable “collateral damage”.
Utah has some of the highest autism rates in the country. We should be demanding the proper safety studies be done now.
I will be very interested in hearing what the 3 whistle blowers say regarding vaccine fraud (2 are from Merck, 1 is a top level CDC researcher). All claim massive fraud and cover up going on in the vaccine industry and CDC. Let’s push for those hearings, and finally get this out in the open and honestly deal with this crisis! Our country simply cannot afford to go on like this.

The government recognized the injury and compensated her for vaccine damage, but as her mother Karen told me, health officials showed absolutely no interest in what happened to Lorrin. No one followed up on her injury to make sure it didn’t happen to other children.

bepatienz

The government compensates such cases based on the temporal proximity of vaccination to the onset of symptoms (such as a seizure.) That doesn’t mean that the vaccine caused the injury.

In fact, independent groups of researchers have repeatedly shown that such cases (particularly alleged vaccine injuries with the development of seizure disorders and autistic symptoms following vaccinations such as DPT and MMR are due to pre-existing mutations rather than to vaccination.

The United States Court of Federal Claims is slowly waking up to this: compensation was rejected in recent cases precisely because the evidence suggested that the alleged vaccine injuries were in fact genetically-determined channelopathies that would have produced the same results with or without vaccination. Given the very high preponderance of already-identified causative mutations in alleged cases of vaccine injury already examined, it seems likely that since the Court has actually ordered genetic testing for channelopathy-producing mutations similar new cases will be unlikely to be compensated.

lbhajdu

I think people are getting confused. Fact, there were 5 studies in 2014 showing a link between vaccines and Autism, plus one CDC scientist step forward saying that the CDC cooked the books to hide a link clearly observed. The idea that the link comes from only one poorly done study more then 20 years was a talking point the CDC sent out to doctors. They told them in case anybody asks tell parents it comes from this poorly done study. It’s a straw-man argument, showing that one of the first studies was not setup well proves nothing one way or the other.
The CDC recently changed this guidance, there psychological manipulation division did research, and found that bringing up the study in the first place reinforces the link in peoples minds, the paper had “increasing vaccine uptake” in the name you can Google for it. The new guidance to doctors is to just distract from the topic, and “focus on local narratives and positive stories”, whatever that means. Look on the CDC web site to see the guidance to doctors.

barbara

bepatienz

“Kennedy argued research showed a 33 percent drop in the autism rate in Denmark after they eliminated the [thimerosal.]”

In fact, the incidence and prevalence of autism-like disorders in Denmark remained essentially flat and at a low level until thimerosal was removed from pediatric vaccines there ca. 1991, but the prevalence of ASD increased in the early 1990s as exposure to thimerosal-containing vaccines decreased and then was eliminated, and it continues to increase. The prevalence of ASD in Denmark following the elimination of thimerosal has been repeatedly reported as higher than that prevalence before the elimination of thimerosal; in 2011 it was many-fold higher than it was before thimerosal was removed, not lower. [J Autism Dev Disord. 2011 Dec;41(12):1601-8.] Similarly, the prevalence of ASD in California and in other study sites (e.g., Iceland) continues to climb years after exposure to thimerosal was curtailed.

how embarrassing

There is no safe autisim. You poor complasant compliant americans, the goverment is not on your side. The officials are on the side of money. So are you people claiming there is no link or cause of autism. What causes it? Shame on you. Expecially giving babies and children that killer chemical. Shame on you for your love of money. My relatives and friends quit shots of all kinds years ago. None of us have autism. But those that have autism have always had shots when they were babies or children. Shame on you. Damaging children for the love of money and lies.

oceangirl26

bob

bob

Side effects of not getting vaccines: Measals, mumps, rubella, polio, whooping cough……and used to include smallpox.

Old cemeteries are filled with the “side effects.”

Do you even know what “side effects” ARE? ANYTHING that a patient notices, or is noticed about them, after using a particular drug or getting a vaccine is listed as a “side-effect” whether it’s caused by the drug or not. Educate yourself. Vaccines have saved millions of lives.

Emma

oceangirl26

What I laugh about, is why are the one’s who vaccinate their children, so afraid of the one’s who are not vaccinated? If the vaccine’s are so great then your child should have no fear of another not being vaccinated.? My Mum used to say, if there is not dirt on a child then they are not healthy.

The Yakima Kid

Immunizations are not 100%. This is why those of us who favor immunizations are disgusted by those who don’t immunize. Not all children can be immunized; those with cancer or those who are too young are very vulnerable to diseases spread by the unimmunized.

My modest proposal is that there be separate schools for the unimmunized and the immunized, as well as using different school buses. That way the unimmunized can continue to believe that “dirt causes disease” and that plumbing prevents it and antibiotics kill viruses – along with other notions discredited in the 19th and 20th Centuries – and the rest of us can live unhampered in the 21st Century.

Emma

I know something you can do yakimar kid – you can move to another country that is pro vax, and your problem is solved. We live in a free country, and we have rights and choice. Don’t you get that? Obviously not, you are spreading hatred. You are disgusting!

The Yakima Kid

I have a better idea. Why don’t you move to the under immunized Third World country of your choice? There are plenty of underedcuated nations that share your views, and you wouldn’t want to stay here and inadvertently contribute to the profits of Big Pharma would you? With any luck you can pick up drug resistant TB and rabies as well as measles, mumps, polio. etc.

Emma

I bet you don’t have an ounce of sympathy or contribute in any way to these poor countries with clean food and water either. Very sad person you must be. I can’t believe there are people out there like you. You are crazy!

The Yakima Kid

Ah, changing the subject. I thought we were discussing immunizations in the United States to prevent diseases such as polio – not discussing the sanitation in Third World countries.

First of all, improved sanitation does not eliminate polio. Second, please stop hallucinating and projecting. You have no idea of what charitable donations I do or do not make, and your strawman arguments and red herrings are tiresome and predictable.

I suspect that if we were discussing this face to face you’d cry and otherwise indulge in emotional manipulation. Are you like the sly witch I encountered while doing a radio debate years and years ago, the one who stuffed an onion slice in a handkerchief so she could cry on command in an effort to manipulate the men in the audience? She wasn’t amused when I pointed out what she was doing, a simple high school drama trick and very obvious if you are observant.

The Yakima Kid

How about a reality check? Let us study the marvelous history of Dr. Andrew Wakefield and his “autism study.”

This is for those of you who blame “major corporations” and “Big Pharma” for “poisoning our children for money.” Perhaps you should see what Dr. Wakefield and his cronies were up to in regards to making profits off of ensuring more children were disabled or killed by preventable diseases.

On 5 January 2011, BMJ published an article by Brian Deer entitled “How the case against the MMR vaccine was fixed”.[96] Deer, funded by The Sunday Times of London and Channel 4 television network, said that, based on examination of the medical records of the 12 children in the original study, his research had found:[96]

The paper in The Lancet was a case series of 12 child patients; it reported a proposed “new syndrome” of enterocolitis and regressive autism and associated this with MMR as an “apparent precipitating event.” But in fact:
Three of nine children reported with regressive autism did not have autism diagnosed at all. Only one child clearly had regressive autism;Despite the paper claiming that all 12 children were “previously normal”, five had documented pre-existing developmental concerns;Some children were reported to have experienced first behavioural symptoms within days of MMR, but the records documented these as starting some months after vaccination;In nine cases, unremarkable colonic histopathology results—noting no or minimal fluctuations in inflammatory cell populations—were changed after a medical school “research review” to “non-specific colitis”;The parents of eight children were reported as blaming MMR, but 11 families made this allegation at the hospital. The exclusion of three allegations—all giving times to onset of problems in months—helped to create the appearance of a 14 day temporal link;Patients were recruited through anti-MMR campaigners, and the study was commissioned and funded for planned litigation.[96]
In an accompanying editorial, BMJ editors said:

Clear evidence of falsification of data should now close the door on this damaging vaccine scare … Who perpetrated this fraud? There is no doubt that it was Wakefield. Is it possible that he was wrong, but not dishonest: that he was so incompetent that he was unable to fairly describe the project, or to report even one of the 12 children’s cases accurately? No. A great deal of thought and effort must have gone into drafting the paper to achieve the results he wanted: the discrepancies all led in one direction; misreporting was gross. Moreover, although the scale of the GMC’s 217 day hearing precluded additional charges focused directly on the fraud, the panel found him guilty of dishonesty concerning the study’s admissions criteria, its funding by the Legal Aid Board, and his statements about it afterwards.[1]

In a BMJ follow-up article on 11 January 2011,[22] Deer said that based upon documents he obtained under Freedom of information legislation,[97] Wakefield—in partnership with the father of one of the boys in the study—had planned to launch a venture on the back of an MMR vaccination scare that would profit from new medical tests and “litigation driven testing”.[23][69] The Washington Post reported that Deer said that Wakefield predicted he “could make more than $43 million a year from diagnostic kits” for the new condition, autistic enterocolitis.[97] According to Deer’s report in BMJ, the ventures, Immunospecifics Biotechnologies Ltd and Carmel Healthcare Ltd—named after Wakefield’s wife—failed after Wakefield’s superiors at University College London’s medical school gave him a two-page letter that said:

We remain concerned about a possible serious conflict of interest between your academic employment by UCL, and your involvement with Carmel … This concern arose originally because the company’s business plan appears to depend on premature, scientifically unjustified publication of results, which do not conform to the rigorous academic and scientific standards that are generally expected.[22]

WebMD reported on Deer’s BMJ report, saying that the $43 million predicted yearly profits would come from marketing kits for “diagnosing patients with autism” and that “the initial market for the diagnostic will be litigation-driven testing of patients with AE [autistic enterocolitis, an unproven condition concocted by Wakefield] from both the UK and the US”.[98] According to WebMD, the BMJ article also claimed that Carmel Healthcare Ltd would succeed in marketing products and developing a replacement vaccine if “public confidence in the MMR vaccine was damaged”.[98]

In October 2012, research published in PNAS, the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, identified Wakefield’s 1998 paper as the most cited retracted scientific paper, with 758 citations, and gave the “reason for retraction” as “fraud”.[2]

bob

The Yakima Kid

Plumbing and antibiotics do not stop or even slow the spread of influenza, mumps, rubella, and the other diseases being discussed here. Polio was at its worst after modern sanitation and antibiotics came into use.

Meanwhile, in science, the miasma theory of disease was discredited in the 19th Century. Diseases such as polio as just as happy to spread in a modern, sanitary, western city as they are in the worst slums of Pakistan. The difference is that various “religious leaders” encouraged people to avoid immunizations as a western, capitalist effort to sterilize Muslims.

For those who see immunizations as evil corporations poisoning children for money – I note that Mr. Kennedy not only has no scientific education, but he is promoting a rather expensive book he wrote. Sounds like a little profiteering, right up there with Dr. Wakefield being paid 400,000 pounds by the trial lawyers group for his “autism study.”

Emma

The Yakima Kid

For those who insist that immunizations increase the rate of Alzheimer’s, you should be aware that Hugh Fudenberg was a quack who claimed to cure autism. He and Wakefield were working on a business plan at one point.

The only study I can find on Alzheimer’s and immunizations finds that those who were better protected with immunizations are less prone to Alzheimer’s.

The Yakima Kid

The Yakima Kid

Emma, going to the CDC website and looking at the possible effects of measles will NOT expose you or your children to measles. Although the term “virus” is used to describe certain forms of malware, viruses that infect humans cannot be transmitted over the Internet.

Gigo

Robert Kennedy should be praised for his brave remarks. We’re talking about thousands of children harmed by unsafe vaccines, and yet we find people who want to attack him over his use of the word “holocaust”. Hello, he’s wasn’t trying to be offensive to Jewish people, he was trying to make the point that vaccines have caused widespread deaths and disabilities and as such we should recognize that this is a holocaust in the sense that vaccines have killed and maimed children in the name of ideology, just as the ideology of Nazis was to dehumanize people and attack anyone who disagreed with their opinion of what is considered safe and ethical. Get over it already. Robert Kennedy is a firiggin hero. Just like his dad and uncle who spoke out against MAFIA..if you can’t handle that, if you are so shallow and idiotic that you can’t see the passion in this man’s words than you need a serious dose of medical cannabis to level out your hyper excited brain.

Tony Bateson

Well Bob should hold his tongue, it’s a simple matter when people go on the way he does to have a good idea where they are coming from. I would award my offered prize of five years ago (there’s a clue) if anyone anywhere claimed it. No one ever has. It’s simple enough; never vaccinated or exposed to common vaccine materials. What about mercury being in the soil and the atmosphere – well somehow that rarely gets injected into the bloodstream of two month old infants. Incidentally this second most toxic material on the planet was also used as lumber preservative and in thousands of other consumer commodities, teething powder, calomine etc until banned by hundreds of Federal laws in recent years. Five years ago the world’s last mercury mine closed at the request of the WHO. But of course it’s all perfectly safe to be repeatedly injected into babies and the makers knowing this material might be contentious conducted rigorous and extensive safety studies into this didn’t they? Well not quite, they didn’t do even a single study did they? Not one! Millions of kids affected by far and away the most plausible scientific route without a scrap of evidence this is safe.
Tony Bateson, Oxford UK