Taran Zhu ultimately caused all the events in WoD. If only he had just executed Garrosh in SoO, he wouldn't have escaped and time traveled to Draenor

Ultimately Garrosh caused all the events of WoD. :-P

"If you look out of the window as a human being, at nature, all of nature is unconditionally and absolutely beautiful wherever it is. Whether it's a jungle. Whether it's a desert. Whether it's the Arctic wastes. Or even your own back garden. The only ugly things you will ever see when you look out of the window are things made by man." - Stephen Fry

Taran Zhu, lord of the Shado-pan.
To be honest when I met him first time he looked awesome for me, a lord of a ninja elite forces on Pandaria.
But the only problem was that in the time progression my excitation of him was going down.
He was sending his students to fight instead of doing that himself(daily quests), he was possessed by the Sha of Anger, eventually he lost his fight with Garrosh, who almost kill him. In the end he spared Warchief life and got him on the Trail of Pandaria,[SPOILER] and then he escaped.
The potential of this character was totally wasted for me, the only "badass" thing he said is:
"Your father dabbled in powers beyond reckoning. Where is he now?" (in the alternate timeline on the Draenor, duh?)
What do you guys think?

Now that you summed things up; What if we ll get trolled by Blizzard and have HIM as the last WoD boss??? :P What if ALIENS?

he stopped crap from getting worse right at the start. We'd all be sha infested crazies right at the start if it wasnt for his timely intervention.

We fought alongside him and pandaran heroes to take down a massive army of klaxxi and a sha across an entire zone.

He gets grieviously injured tanking one of the thunderkings foremost agents and with his guts spilling out, intimidates a horde and alliance leader who Despise each other with a hatred of many burning suns and a personal/race induced vendetta on the other, he makes them Cordial towards each other.

he calls the factions out on their morony.

Every time he blames the "outsiders", he's actually right.

He stood toe to toe with Garrosh after insulting his father, only barely lost. Survived.

Convinced the for most paragons of the horde and alliance to hand Garrosh over to him.

A bronze drake with reality bending time powers (that we showed him to use, go us...again) was needed to steal Garrosh away from him.

so i conclude that emperor zhu is a really cool guy, he doesnt afraid of anything and defeats deathwing.

It was 100% the Horde, as usual, and as usual the Horde scapegoat somebody despite following their orders the entire time, and afterwards claim innocence

This.

As usual, it was the Horde shitting things up and making excuses for it. Fuck you, Taran Zhu, the Alliance could have told you something like this was going to happen; another Wrathgate, another big fuckup that ruins everything and leaves the Horde sitting there going "Splinter faction, splinter faction, doesn't count!" as they derp around pathetically trying to clean up their own mess.

"B-b-but the war between the Alliance and the Horde stirred up the Sha! They're equally guilty of that!"

Bullshit. You really think that if the Horde had arrived in Pandaria alone and the Alliance never showed up at all, things would have been better? Even with no Alliance present, Garrosh and the Horde would have found SOMEONE on that continent to go to war with, and things would have ended up in the shit regardless.

Meanwhile if the Alliance had shown up alone with no Horde to fight, probably not much would have happened at all. We'd have picked up Anduin and told him he was a bad boy, maybe set up a trading post, and left.

Once the Horde arrived, Pandaria was fucked one way or another. They're just lucky the Alliance showed up, even if it did take a while for the Alliance to learn about the Sha.

But then, what if its just come retarded hairless doppelganger who is pretending to be garrosh while real one is being kept in closet for last 5 years ? What a plot twist.

"He didn't cut it! He was kidnapped and replaced with a bald doppelganger!"

What a story. I knew Garrosh couldn't cut that awesome ponytail by his own. That was against his character's development, he was developed for LOVE his ponytail, not cut it. Or maybe it's just inconcistency? Who knows.

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Originally Posted by wych

Saying they is a bit misleading.

No, it isn't, when Taran Zhu became mad at first the Alliance did enough damage to be in par with the Horde.

Originally Posted by Keyblader

It's a general rule though that if you play horde you are a bad person irl. It's just a scientific fact.

"He didn't cut it! He was kidnapped and replaced with a bald doppelganger!"

What a story. I knew Garrosh couldn't cut that awesome ponytail by his own. That was against his character's development, he was developed for LOVE his ponytail, not cut it. Or maybe it's just inconcistency? Who knows.

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No, it isn't, when Taran Zhu became mad at first the Alliance did enough damage to be in par with the Horde.

Well his model changed as well, and most people dont just get extra polygons out of nowhere. I say, this garrosh is imposter, that why his character is so inconsistent since cata.

Think I have to agree this falls under my general label "Blizzard doesn't believe in moderation."

I mean, think about heroics. Wrath they get faceroll, "make them harder pleaze," Blizz swings all the way to "every heroic is Shadow Lab" in Cata, "too hard!," Blizz goes to "faceroll with nobody ever seeing the content, AoE everything heroics" in MoP.

Same thing here. They don't do moderation too well.

Saurfang got Horde players really pumped up in Classic with essentially one real appearance where he did something.
For me, Tyrande set herself apart as the only racial leader to take action in Classic during the Anh'Qiraj Gates questline in Moonglade with Eranikus.

BC had Thrall and Rexxar appear and have a little bit of involvement, Alliance lore figures were just quest givers so Horde was okay (only okay) and Alliance was lacking on that spot.

Wrath was pretty damn good, I thought. Bolvar appearing in a quest to save you and some soldiers by emboldening you, not by handling it himself. The Wrathgate did good by both sides. ICC wasn't too bad up until Lich King, then it's arguable. I actually liked Tirion being so easily frozen and a last desperate attempt being all that saved him. Hell, he didn't even defeat Arthas, he got a lucky hit and the naaru-forged blade defeated the Legion-forged blade. The souls of Frostmourne defeated Arthas, not Tirion, not entirely us.

Cataclysm and MoP it became heavily focused on the lore figures and the players took a real side role.

I really liked Bolvar during Wrath, I wished Tirion would die at the start adn Bolvar would take up Ashbringer and finish Arthas off and no There must always be a LK crap. But sadly Tirion survived and stil wields the Ashbringer. Besides the Ashbringer is not Naaru-forged (it was a crystal that was found that was purified and then forged into the Ashbringer by some Alliance members, though the crystal had properties similar to Naaru we don't know the exact connection between them) Lastly, I HATE TIRION! For someone who gets stuck in an icetrap the whole fight, manages to get in one lucky blow (it would be better if he gave the Ashbringer to me, I'd make better use of it swining it for the whole duration of the fight) and then he gets a FRIGGIN GOLD STATUE!!!???!?!!
DIE TIRION, DIE TIRION!