's hard to not like someone who says they like you."youtalktosenators and congress mep as you know, and they feel barack obama doesn't like them or is at least indifferent to them. and so you have all of these conflicts in negotiations, and they end-- look, the president has the upper hand now and will for some time, but you know-- condi rice knows so well-- any negotiation you need to leave the opponent with their dignity. and their-- and the president's going out aed sticking his finger in their eye. >> well, you know, dee dee it even goes beyond that, what bob says that republicans feel like the president doesn't like them. you hear some people say he-- he really doesn't like the whole process. he didn't like kind of getting his hands dirty with negotiations and stuff. he likes to look at it in a more abstract way. is that true? >> well, it certainly-- you know he's a politician who doesn't love politics. it's not sure he likes the art of politics and that's a problem >> how you can be a good politician if you don't like politics? >> i think it's created challenges for him. he h