So that would mean supplements containing like 5-10g of creatine per serving could be used at 1/2 scoop servings? Such as sizeon/cellmass, etc.. (of course everything else will be split in half too, but creatine is the main component of these)

i have had kidney problems from creatine, my uncle has, and my friend has. mine was just sharp pain. my uncle peed out blood for a week, my friend had 2 kidney stones. they both used it straight, 10g for a year though. i prefer to cycle it every other month or so. seems to me 2g is low, i always do 5g after loading phase. i get sharp pains in my kidneys around day 5 of creatine use so now i make sure to drink aaaalllllot of water (about 2 gallons daily). anybody try 2g a day??? im curious how this works compared to 5g. i always thought 5 was max, anything else is a waste and is only hurting you. any thoughts?

i have had kidney problems from creatine, my uncle has, and my friend has. mine was just sharp pain. my uncle peed out blood for a week, my friend had 2 kidney stones. they both used it straight, 10g for a year though. i prefer to cycle it every other month or so. seems to me 2g is low, i always do 5g after loading phase. i get sharp pains in my kidneys around day 5 of creatine use so now i make sure to drink aaaalllllot of water (about 2 gallons daily). anybody try 2g a day??? im curious how this works compared to 5g. i always thought 5 was max, anything else is a waste and is only hurting you. any thoughts?

that would scare me if i had pain from creatine. i take 5 grams 3 times a week (workout days)

i have had kidney problems from creatine, my uncle has, and my friend has. mine was just sharp pain. my uncle peed out blood for a week, my friend had 2 kidney stones. they both used it straight, 10g for a year though. i prefer to cycle it every other month or so. seems to me 2g is low, i always do 5g after loading phase. i get sharp pains in my kidneys around day 5 of creatine use so now i make sure to drink aaaalllllot of water (about 2 gallons daily). anybody try 2g a day??? im curious how this works compared to 5g. i always thought 5 was max, anything else is a waste and is only hurting you. any thoughts?

according to the article. 2g is what you lose ed. so if you take 5, its unnecessary.

Whoever thought they could put a blanket statement on something and say "take 5 grams per day" was short sighted.

I believe it was companies selling creatine and it's great for moving product. It's just like protein. Every actual study that I've seen always talks about ingesting anywhere from 1-2 Grams/KILO of BW but ever since I've joined the boards I only see people talking about 1-2 grams/LBS of BW.

Dam glad I saw this!!! Order Creatine From primordial performance… I was going to just do the protocol loading of Creatine- Since I have read this I am going to try it … I was going to have a log “Called Going Back to the Basics” using Primordial Performance Products… The log is to see if using the basic Supps you can gain Mass with a good diet!!! Great thanks for the read! Look for my log starting this FridaY

Dam glad I saw this!!! Order Creatine From primordial performance… I was going to just do the protocol loading of Creatine- Since I have read this I am going to try it … I was going to have a log “Called Going Back to the Basics” using Primordial Performance Products… The log is to see if using the basic Supps you can gain Mass with a good diet!!! Great thanks for the read! Look for my log starting this FridaY

My stack is
Toco -8
Creatine
IBCAA
MAP

sounds good man. a tub of creatine mono from primordial arrived at my door today. Its pure as hell and 200 servings of 5g. so well over a year and half at 2-2.5g a day. send me a pm with your log m8