We’ve heard rappers call other rappers bitches. We’ve heard rappers call women bitches. We haven’t, however heard many rappers self-apply the term. Perhaps inspiring the Based God to form the Bitch Mob in later years, Onyx emcee and actor Fredro Starr recounts a tale of chance meeting with Tupac and Suge Knight, and how that meeting caused the “bitch to come out of [him].”

Now, in Fredro’s defense, this was Suge Knight in his intimidating prime, long before an encounter with a west coast barber changed the world’s perception of the lineman sized music executive. In the mid ‘90s, Suge was still known for getting rappers out of contracts the Big Red way, and generally being the scariest man on the planet. Given the hyper masculine reputation of most rappers, it’s interesting to hear the mad face Queens rapper share a story with this much vulnerability and candor. Pac, Brandy, and Rhea Perlman all get name dropped in this classic tale, one well worth the six and half minute run time.

Some notable quotables:

“I felt this nigga’s energy. When he put his arm around me, I felt like a force. Like… muthaf*ckin… like the devil had a nigga or some shit.”

“Yo the bitch came outta me, son. I ain’t gon front. The bitch came right outta me. Nigga tail went right under the leg.”

“When I looked at ‘Pac, the nigga looked at me like sayin’… ‘nah nigga. Hell no, nigga. You don’t want to come over here. Niggas is gettin’ it bad over here.'”

Suge had everybody checking under their beds at night, including Pac. Dude was a serious thug. Brings to mind that video where Snoop said things were shakey over there at Death Row, Snoop said he had to sit with his hand on his blade not sure whether or not someone was going to try and harm him while they flew that private plane ride. True Thugdom

Man, how I wish we could all know where PAc’s mind was at during that period. Right before he died is when stories of a more retrospective and mellowed out Pac began to occur. Its also when he did the interview talking about his regrets from wilding out on the Hughes brothers, to gloating about it on Yo MTV raps etc.

Could it be, he felt he was in too deep to cut ties with Suge, but in his heart he didn’t wanna fuck with him anymore? You can’t tell me even he wasn’t a little scared of that nigga.

i respect this type of shit. rappers be having fans so gassed like they take no loses in life. fans feel they gotta be super gangsters to measure up to rappers. when rappers let the fans know that they win some and lose some, the world and the minds they influence will be a better place.
i’ve heard so many styles p. stories about going to certain cities and get fucked up by the local niggas fighting his way out gettin tossed into the street. thats the hardest out. these other niggas be rappin motion pictures with billion dollar budgets.
this brings back the theory of suge murking pac cuz he was starting to come back to his senses and his departure was on the horizon. out of all the theories i heard that one always stuck with me, and i dont put it past suge at all.

IDK if I believe you about that Styles P shit. I mean everyone knows you win some you lose some, but I feel like people don’t even really test Styles like that. He used to beat people with chairs in radio interviews and shit.

One of the Wu (Ghost?) tells a sick story about gettin chased out of Houston, I think ODB was driving the getaway car.

i feel you. it mightve been an early juan ep podcast or something similar to it. but him and his dblock team was in Detroit and we all know Detroit gives no fucks bout who you are, where u rep, or how real u keep it. He told the story like a G, talked bout his man gettin punched in the face in the club, they brawled out, they got throw down the steps, right outside went home bruised up.
and i dont see him as any less of a man, in fact i might see him as more of a man cuz he admitted that he took a loss or two.
but u right me personally, i wouldnt test the ghost, (face, or pinero) in any setting.

Interesting Story. I like how he thinks only he and Pac were the only rappers doing movies at the time. Totally didn’t think about Will Smith, Queen Latifah, Kid & Play, Ice Cube, LL Cool J all being in flicks at the time/before them