Makes me think of a Dara O'Briain bit where he goes on about the ante natal class his wife and he went to when she was expecting. Well obviously it'd be very weird if she wasn't pregnant and they were going, but I digress.

The earth mother, touchy feely type who was taking it said of the potential splitting of the perineum that often occurs in childbirth and said "Some doctors now think the natural tearing is better than it being cut"

Dara asks his wife (who's a surgeon, but who had made him promise not to mention this to anyone in the class) afterwards if that was possibly right and she replies "Of course it ****ing isn't. It's why I use a scalpel and not get a bear to make the incision."

Not to mention the # of people died from diseases we vaccinate for now. I guess when you don't know anyone personally who suffered from polio, it's very easy to dismiss.

That's what does it for me, the completely misguided idea that it 'won't happen to me.' I daresay it's a similar reason why the woman in the article TC posted thinks doctors are lying about her kid dying from a genetic disease. It couldn't possibly be something to do with me.

Originally Posted by flibbertyjibber

Only a bunch of convicts having been beaten 3-0 and gone 9 tests without a win and won just 1 in 11 against England could go into the home series saying they will win. England will win in Australia again this winter as they are a better side which they have shown this summer. 3-0 doesn't lie girls.

Another thing about vaccination is that it's a 'positive' thing you must do. If you've never seen polio, it's very abstract in your mind. But you have to choose to vaccinate your kid - and if someone tells you that doing it will cause your kid to develop autism, that's a situation that most parents would do anything to avoid. If you vaccinate and then your kid is diagnosed with autism (not that they are related in the slightest, but the general public doesn't know that), I'd bet you'd be wracked with a tremendous amount of guilt for having 'caused' the disease.

That's why I blame the peddlers much more than the parents. Look, the fact is not everyone is scientifically literate, and even the vast majority of very literate people can't really analyze the statistics and read primary scientific literature. So they have to rely on 'expert' advice, and if some guy in a white coat with a PhD or a MD or something comes on and tells them something, they're going to listen. Those are almost always the most trusted professions in society, for valid reasons.

Oddly enough, vaccines are easier to spread in developing countries (most of them), mainly because many of those people still remember what it was like to have those diseases. But then again, a different sort of misinformation can spread (like the myth that said the polio vaccine was a conspiracy by the US to make men sterile).

They also sent a bunch of seismologists to jail for not predicting an earthquake, so maybe this shouldn't be surprising.

Originally Posted by Bahnz

I need u like Henry Nicholls needs batting school
He was terrible in that series
I need u like Ross Taylor needed to be fit
He's way better than Henry Nicholls
And now all I can think about is your smile
and that ****** test series too
Losing to Australia sucked and I miss you