Every time I picture in my mind’s eye that little pompous jackass Gord Perks shouting “Get out, get out, get out of my chamber” and trying to mount poor old George’s shoulder at the same time; every time I think of that buggy burlesque moment I laugh my a$$ off.

Most people that I know, when they go to a circus and watch the clowns they don’t come out “hating” the clowns.

Hate is the exclusive domain of the humourless left, so don’t project your own lunatic specialty on me

]]>By: demandhttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045463
demandSun, 13 Jan 2013 22:09:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045463“Over on this side of the spectrum we don’t “hate”. Oh really? The only person who believes you is yourself.

]]>By: sandifjmhttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045461
sandifjmSat, 12 Jan 2013 01:06:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045461As usual, your understanding is completely wrong. A Google search which took me all of 0.48 seconds indicates that in 1997 Mel Lastman got 387,848 votes. In 2010 Ford got 383 501. While this may come as a bit of a shock to you, just saying something does not actually make it true.
]]>By: TheSotSayshttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045459
TheSotSaysFri, 11 Jan 2013 03:13:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045459Even if all he’s done is coach that team, I’ll take that over $200 million of failing cement and closed businesses on St. Clair; over batteries of $400,000 French Riviera pay toilets and over matched pairs of leftoid lunatic councillors fleecing the social welfare housing sytem and preventing poor desperate people from finding a place to live.
]]>By: harebellhttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045457
harebellFri, 11 Jan 2013 03:00:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045457He hasn’t done much so far except coach a football team and run a radio programme, most of his other initiatives seem to have either failed or not really panned out fully.
You blind faith in the man is however noteworthy.
]]>By: TheSotSayshttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045455
TheSotSaysFri, 11 Jan 2013 02:31:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045455Am I sure he can run the place? …… I’m positive he can. And I know we need him because down on that council are 20 or so leftoid scatterbrains like you.

1. You cannot see that a clear distinction exists in Magdar’s legal action between the events that took place in August 2010 and those that took place in February 2012 even after the differences are pointed out to you.

3. When RSM HareBall, God bless him and thank him, called you “cunning” you failed to recognize the difference between “HareBall you’re cunning”- handshake and “HareBall you’re cunning” – eye roll.

So Rob Ford was elected to deal with the leftoid morons that 385,000 voters were completely and totally sick of and he’s doing a great job against enormous odds. And our society and our freedom is in great peril if the Osgoode Hall Courts start disenfranchising the electorate by removing elected officials over bullsh*t like this. And I hold the same opinion if it was happening to a two-bit twerp like Perks.

]]>By: harebellhttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045453
harebellThu, 10 Jan 2013 22:47:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045453Never had a 300lb teacher in my life and as for their sexual proclivities no idea. Given that my teachers and other adults around me were from the military, strangely enough I never heard anything about being wonderful and fluffy either. Although I once was described as a cunning little s**t. From what I gather this might be NCO speak for fluffy. It was the closest I ever came to getting a compliment as a nipper anyway.

So in 2010 Cllr Ford was made aware that speaking and voting on a matter that concerned him was in fact a conflict of interest. In 2012 Mayor Ford is now a completely different person and obviously has no connection with the fellow who was Cllr Ford, now has no recollection that speaking to and voting on a motion that concerns oneself is a conflict of interest. Is that what you are claiming? The Mayor can’t remember procedural rules he was made aware of in a prior encounter?

Are you sure this guy is able to run a major metropolitan centre with the memory issues he clearly has?

]]>By: briguyhfxhttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045449
briguyhfxThu, 10 Jan 2013 14:44:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045449Does Lenczner’s line of argument open the door for the prosecutor to put forward evidence of Ford’s belligerence and obstinance on other occassions? Because there really is no shortage of incidents where Ford acts belligerent and obstinant.
]]>By: TheSotSayshttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045447
TheSotSaysThu, 10 Jan 2013 09:35:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045447Hare Ball you’re pathetic. Everything is “beyond you.”

Read the very first page of the thing you sent me, Item [1]

Rob Ford was not the Mayor in August 2010. And that, like it or not, MAY be an important matter in his Appeal before a 3 Judge panel. And that’s why Super Clayt and his sucky little NDP muppet puppet applied to have him removed for what he did at a meeting in February 2012.

I’ll tell you what the problem is. Guys like you and me, have been raised up in a sick society and no one has EVER told you that you might be wrong:

All you’ve ever heard is, “Oh look at little Hare Ball, isn’t he cute?”
To which the response is, “Oh my yes and he’s so smart.”

The stuff I got was, ” Oh look at little Sot, isn’t he cute?
To which my old man would dutifully respond, “Oh yah, he’s cute, but as soon as he gets this big Musky into the boat he’s going to get a lesson or two.”

Over the last 50 years we’re all being screwed over by 300 pound OISE trained lesbian kindergarten teachers, metaphorically speaking. And the result is sickening.

Rob Ford got screwed over on a very minor thing by Ruby’s judge; there were lots of ways to let him loose without killing him. Ford clearly did not believe he had a conflict, who the f**k would vote to put themselves here. And if this decision is upheld by a three judge panel, and it might very well be, our democracy is in very big trouble. In my humble opinion.

But no one warned him off at that meeting in Feb 2012 and his vote was meaningless..

]]>By: harebellhttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045445
harebellThu, 10 Jan 2013 06:19:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045445Where you get the Feb date from is beyond me, but the conflict of interest case he was nailed in concerned the August meeting. So it’s you who is wrong; 25th August prior to the discussion Bussin did warn Ford that he was in potential conflict of interest. (Court documents detailing reasons for the decision clearly state. See point 6 here http://www.scribd.com/doc/114454163/Rob-Ford-Conflict-of-Interest-Decision)

Now I have court documents from the case he is appealing against backing up my position, do you have anything other than wishful thinking back up yours buddy?

]]>By: TheSotSayshttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045443
TheSotSaysThu, 10 Jan 2013 04:15:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045443The application brought against the Mayor was related to a Council Meeting in February 2012. At that meeting neither the City Solicitor nor the integrity Commissioner nor the Speaker advised the Mayor that he would be in violation of the conflict statute for speaking or voting.

So sorry buddy but you’re WRONG and you’re spewing misinformation. The Mayor was given no such advice at that Council meeting.

]]>By: TheSotSayshttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045441
TheSotSaysThu, 10 Jan 2013 03:35:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045441Have you looked at the alligator shoes on Clayt Ruby?
]]>By: harebellhttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045439
harebellThu, 10 Jan 2013 03:21:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045439You speak but nothing that makes sense comes out.
This is an appeal, it would take judicial activism to change the verdict; something I always thought the right was against.
]]>By: TheSotSayshttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045437
TheSotSaysThu, 10 Jan 2013 03:15:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045437No, I’ve decided I don’t want any more media filtered BS, so for the last few months I’ve made sure to pick up the Mayor’s Sunday radio program on AM1010 where Rob and Doug, along frequently with Francis Nunziata speak directly to what’s going at City Hall.

The three of them, the Ford’s and Francis Nunziata are all good radio announcers and interviewers. They discuss all the issues with City department heads; the public housing, the plastic bags, the expressway, the subways, the bicycle lanes. Denzil Minan Wong is on there frequently to talk about the City’s infrastructure. They’ve had Jerry Reinsdorf on there to talk about the Bulls and the White Sox. They’ve had corporate executives from BMO and Oxford properties to discuss how the City should be going. They’ve talked with Mike Layton about his charity.They’ve had New York cops on there talking about their youth programs.

No where at any time have politicians made such an effort to keep people informed and to get voter input. You can call them on the phone and ask them what the hell they’re doing.

It’s a first class well produced, entertaining radio show and anyone who doesn’t pick it up cannot know what is really going on at City Hall.

]]>By: TheSotSayshttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045435
TheSotSaysThu, 10 Jan 2013 02:47:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045435Do I think it’s still accurate? …… I believe his support may be somewhat higher than it was in 2010.
]]>By: Billyhttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045433
BillyThu, 10 Jan 2013 01:46:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045433No shortage of Leftist Mental Disorder on this thread.
]]>By: KeithBramhttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045429
KeithBramThu, 10 Jan 2013 01:44:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045429So where do you get yours? SUN TV?
]]>By: Billyhttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045431
BillyThu, 10 Jan 2013 01:44:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045431The leftist Toronto councilors could not accept that their candidate lost, so they are trying any means possible to overturn the electorates choice for mayor. The underhanded malicious way they went about it should raise the possibility of civil action by Ford against all of them. Over donations to a charity of which he has/had no personal gain, get real.

Ford will win.

]]>By: Vote Ndphttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045427
Vote NdpThu, 10 Jan 2013 00:21:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045427Mr Ford doesn’t have a chance in this world in suceeding in his appeal.
]]>By: harebellhttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045425
harebellWed, 09 Jan 2013 23:22:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045425I’m not the one in court fighting for my job.
Real enough for you?
]]>By: TheSotSayshttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045423
TheSotSaysWed, 09 Jan 2013 22:48:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045423Since the people you’re talking about obtain all their electoral advice, from NOW Magazine, I have to tell you chief, I don’t think they should even be allowed to vote.
]]>By: Billyhttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045421
BillyWed, 09 Jan 2013 22:33:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045421Spoken like a true leftoid, totally devoid of any shred of reality.
]]>By: TinaFeahttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045419
TinaFeaWed, 09 Jan 2013 17:59:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045419yep, the “people of Toronto” are behind him. 35-40% of them, at least.
]]>By: Sum12http://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045417
Sum12Wed, 09 Jan 2013 17:22:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045417Oh definitely. Along with the fact according to Rob Ford that absolutely everyone he ever speaks to only utters statements like “we want more subways” and “stop the gravy train” and “thanks for the awsome job you’re doing” etc.
]]>By: Sum12http://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045415
Sum12Wed, 09 Jan 2013 17:16:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045415What about Lenczner’s statement to the court that Rob Ford “is a high school graduate” as seemingly some sort of response to the question of why Ford didn’t read and/or understand materials setting out the requirements that applied to his position and/or didn’t really know what a conflict of interest was and when he might be involved in one? Why insult high school graduates by implying that had anything to do with Ford’s ignorance or lack of comprehension? Does Lenczner really think that’s anywhere near a valid legal defence? “I respectfully submit to the Court, that like most Canadians, my client is only a high school graduate, and thus lacked the wherewithal to understand and follow rules, so he should be held blameless for any wrongdoing.”
]]>By: TinaFeahttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045413
TinaFeaWed, 09 Jan 2013 17:07:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045413seems legit.
]]>By: Sum12http://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045411
Sum12Wed, 09 Jan 2013 17:02:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045411What about the majority of Toronto voters who voted for anyone but Ford for mayor? Is the fact that one is voted into office by a plurality of voters a free pass for the official to disregard or violate whatever law or policy applies to his/her position and/or conduct, lest the rule of law interfere with a democratic electoral outcome?
]]>By: Sum12http://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045409
Sum12Wed, 09 Jan 2013 16:49:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045409I believe Doug Ford’s quote about his brother that contained a claim like that was actually more to the effect that Rob Ford did more to help black youth than anyone, anywhere, ever. I recall he also claimed that Rob Ford was the most honest politician anywhere within recent memory.
Hilariously ridiculous, both claims…
]]>By: Peterbot Malmöhttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045407
Peterbot MalmöWed, 09 Jan 2013 15:15:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045407Substitute “stupid” for “honest” and you might be onto something.
]]>By: 27http://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045405
27Wed, 09 Jan 2013 12:37:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045405Greatest mayor ever. Hope you stay mayor a long, long time Rob.
]]>By: ChaChahttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045403
ChaChaWed, 09 Jan 2013 12:24:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045403the Sot wrote: “In the end it will be interesting to see if the court has the balls to disenfranchise 385,000 voters over this matter.”

Do you really think that number is still accurate? I voted for ford and would never vote for him again. I could care less about the man, and I promise you, disenfranchised is not what I would be if he is tossed for good from city hall. Please, do not speak for others.

]]>By: jasonhttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045401
jasonWed, 09 Jan 2013 03:07:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045401Whether or not his heart is in the right place is irrelevant to me. I want an intelligent, strategic mayor with a clear vision of the future of Toronto. Ford is not that mayor. He should stick to coaching football and community outreach where I actually respect his work.
]]>By: harebellhttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045399
harebellWed, 09 Jan 2013 02:52:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045399It’s not that he didn’t understand it, he was advised of the problem and he chose not to understand it. As the vote was overwhelming and probably would have been known to have been so prior to the meeting he should have followed the advice he was given. He didn’t and a clear conflict of interest occurred.

The punishment for such an offence is draconian in the extreme, but that is the rule as written now; so is the system within which folk are forced to work. Any disenfranchising is as a result of Ford’s inability to listen to people who knew the rules and the arrogance to think he knew better even though he admits to not reading the councillor’s handbook. His arrogance and pig-headedness caused us to arrive at this situation even when many people tried to help him avoid it.

]]>By: harebellhttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045397
harebellWed, 09 Jan 2013 02:45:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045397Indeed
]]>By: neuroticdoghttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045395
neuroticdogWed, 09 Jan 2013 02:28:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045395I’m may be frothing at the mouth but you’re in total denial. The hapless doofus you uncritically defend is guilty of conflict of interest according to one court of law and, when another court is through with him shortly, he may well be guilty of financing irregularities in his election, as well. Face it, your hero shouldn’t be allowed to cut his own food, go near revolving doors, or try to step on moving escalators. He’s a danger to himself.

“Helping underprivileged kids” (boy, that’s a tired meme) doesn’t give him or anybody else a license to flout the rules of office or break the law.

BTW, I don’t idolize the late Jack Layton any more than you idolize the late Joe Stalin.

]]>By: TheSotSayshttp://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-rob-ford-just-too-honest/#comment-1045393
TheSotSaysWed, 09 Jan 2013 02:25:00 +0000http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=334579#comment-1045393The Divisional Court appeal of a case involving the removal of an elected official is somewhat diffferent from what you might be used to.

In the end it will be interesting to see if the court has the balls to disenfranchise 385,000 voters over this matter. The amount is clearly inconsequential, the mayor’s vote did not change the outcome, and Ford’s understanding of the definition of conflict of interest clearly differed from the “learned judge.” That is Ford did not understand a picayune rule that everyone disagrees with and that on its own should get him off.

What you should do is this. Borrow 75 cents from one of your friends and buy some relaxation.

Pop 75 cents into one of Miller’s $400,000 pay toilets; sneak in there for an hour, and just relax. You have no idea how easy it is to unwind in one of those things. They’re like a spa on the Riviera.

Rob is guilty of nothing, he’s a decent guy trying to help underpriviledged kids.

I realize you have difficulty viewing Rob Ford with the proper perspective because Rob’s views on helping young kids are in complete contradistinction with those of a man like Rub House Jack, who you “blindly idolize.”