The Women’s March was full of bitter, childless bitches, bitter childless dude complains

Were the Women’s Marches last Saturday an inspiring act of resistance to the incoming Trump regime, or just a collection of bitter, aging childless bitches looking for some drama in their lives?

It’s the latter, at least according to one bitter, aging, and I’m pretty sure childless bastard. The virulently racist, woman-hating, Trump-loving pickup artist Heartiste — real name James Weidmann — offers his take on the march in a blog post today.

His working hypothesis?

The … Bitter Bitch March can be explained, in part, as the mass hysteria of childless women seeking the drama in their lives that their childlessness denies them.

Huh. So apparently the assorted picturesfloating around of children at the Women’s Marches in Washington and elsewhere are all just photoshop jobs? If so, kudos to the photoshoppers for making them look so realistic.

Meanwhile, a writer for Forbes either apparently hallucinated a whole little army of kids at the march. “Among the estimated 1.2 million people at the Women’s March on Washington were a staggering number of children,” Forbes’ Frances Bridges writes.

I was surprised by the myriad of babies swaddled to their parents, children marching, sitting in strollers or on the shoulders of their parents and grandparents.

But let’s just set aside the photographic evidence and eyewitness reports. This is Trump’s America, and in this new reality, Heartiste is entitled to his own set of alternate facts.

So let’s just, for the sake of argument, assume that the marches were overflowing with bitter childless women. Why does that matter? Heartiste quotes one eminent expert on all things female, namely an anonymous commenter on his site called Days of Broken Arrows, who posits that

Women are psychologically built to deal with drama, because nothing is more drama-inducing that having to deal with a baby or a toddler.

But if there are no kids, women still have the psychological need for drama. So they create it.

You can’t argue with this SCIENCE.

Heartiste goes on to wax poetic about the evils of childlessness and women and Ashley Judd.

American White women — and Western White women in general — have the easy life, all whims catered to, all conceptions thwarted, all egos stroked. Their abject sexual liberation and child-free lifestyles … has made them yearn for submission to a greater dramatic power. Now that God is gone and the patriarchy is prostrate and supplicating boringly drama-free beta males orbit them like cosmic dust, to whom do these placated women submit?

Islam. Leftoid equalism. The cock carousel. And finally, they submit to incoherent rage fueled by the dying eggs of their childless wombs.

Anyhoo, the worst example of bitter childless womanhood that Heartiste can imagine is actress and activist Ashley Judd, childless by choice, who apparently read some sort of poem before “a squealing crowd of whores and harpies” at the DC march.

Heartiste, who has apparently seen video of the recitation, is not impressed, declaring that Ms. Judd’s

“poem” was a psychotic, obscene fusillade of nonsense and man-hatred. A more iconic representative of the inchoate mentality and emotional infantilism of modern feminism would be hard to find. A literal crazy bag lady screeched like a loony toon as half a million sympatico spinsters and sluts metaphorically scissored her c**ty discharge.

Childlessness and cresting sexual worthlessness are the two unspoken, subconscious psychological drivers impelling the scattershot and scatterbrained “protests” of the women who went to the Bitter Bitch March. …

Strip away the sound and nagging of the bitterbitches, signifying nothing, and you are left with the sad tragic realities of their lives. Childless Ashley Judd with the dead womb six feet under a mound of piling regret is Exhibit [vagina-related slur redacted].

Heartiste — himself childless, as far as I know — follows his attack on Judd with a passage that is perhaps a little more revealing than he intends it to be. Judd, he declares, is

a nasty woman because her heart is small and black, poisoned with envy and regret, with nothing but ugly feminist anthems to alleviate the pain of spinsterhood and cratering SMV that consumes her.

I hope you don’t mind if I shorten your name. Which I like, BTW. I’m watching Merlin on Netflix over these past few weeks and although it’s a fun show, it bugs me how they made Morgana such a one dimensional villain. I read Mists of Avalon in middle school after all.

But, back on topic. Yes, white women did contribute to Trump’s win, but without having the data in front of me, those voters were probably largely older than 30 or 40 and married. Younger single white women tend to vote democratic and that’s the demographic Fartiste cares about. By cares about, I of course mean wants to scare into submission. He wants them to be so scared of ending up a bitter old childless bitch that they agree to settle for an abusive and angry Nazi.

Or he could resign. Yeah, I know Pence would be equally horrible (and in some ways even worse), but at least he wouldn’t be as likely to blunder his way into World War III (I hope).

@ Ooglyboggles:

You are already a better, stronger person than your father could ever hope to be. Maybe one reason he’s so horrible to you is that, on some subconscious level, he realizes it. Don’t let him tear you down. If we at WHTM can do anything for you, please let us know.

On the original post:

So, Heartiste, “God is gone and the patriarchy is prostrate”? Seriously? Dude, Gropey McGrabberson is in the Oval Office, and Claude Frollo is his veep. That’s why there were protests in the first place. Oh, and describing an eloquent, inspiring speech as a “c**ty discharge” is no way to win friends and influence people. Fortunately, you don’t seem to have much interest in being heard outside your rancid little subculture (which is definitely for the best).

The misogynists haven’t changed must since sufferage. I looked for it, but couldn’t find an old anti-suffrage print that shows a suffragette telling a woman with her head and arm bandaged as she sweeps, ” How horribly your husband has treated you.” The battered woman responds, ” It could be worse. I could have no husband, like you”.

Those are the good old days these men want back. They want women unable to survive, have a family or a community if they are not willing to be abused and owned by a man.

Misogynists claimed we were ugly, bitter, lazy, crazy, greedy man haters etc for wanting the vote. They’re making the same claims now. They will any time women won’t be mistreated or oppressed.

I have a bit of a thing about those old Suffragist posters and leaflets (regulars know of my slight obsession about Edith Garrud) and it is quite eye opening how a lot of the anti suffrage material is identical to the MRA memes today.

I’ve think though that the cartoon you refer to was actually a pro suffragette one. ‘You’ll never find a husband” was a common anti suffrage argument. I interpreted the cartoon as trying to make the point that, until women’s rights were respected, that might not have been such a great loss.

I could well be wrong though. It’s ages since I’ve seen it. But it was with a collection of pro suffragist material.

Childlessness and cresting sexual worthlessness are the two unspoken, subconscious psychological drivers impelling the scattershot and scatterbrained “protests” of the women who went to the Bitter Bitch March. …

So I went to the Women’s March in my state capital and … hey, wait a minute, who are these two strange teenagers in my house who bear some resemblance to my husband and me?

When I looked at a bunch of these vintage anti suffrage cartoons online, I had to laugh at how many of them depicted fathers left caring for twin infants while their suffragette wives headed out the door. Mr. Ginormica took a very active role in caring for our twin sons when they were babies, because frankly, the more hands the better when you have multiples. Eventually he opted to stay home with them while I went back to work full time. Neither he nor I knew how much this was apparently supposed to be emasculating him and defeminizing me!

Im picturing a carousel where all the animals have Sybians built in. The animals would be rosters, of course, although rabbits, goats, and unicorns would all be appropriate. I want to build one. I haven’t got a spare 50 grand though.

A guy who knows his looks are running out, and who holds less attraction for women by the day. So he has to impress the menz instead. Luckily, right-wing men are dumber than bean straw (as evidenced by the heap they voted for), so that’s an easy-peasy task.

Unfortunately for Jimmy-boy, though, the ladies are all just looking, laughing and pointing at him. Even us “bitter” old unmarried ones.

American White women — and Western White women in general — have the easy life, all whims catered to, all conceptions thwarted, all egos stroked.

Does Heartiste know that 53% of WW voted for Trump? Funny how he lumps them all into the anti-Trump crowd.

Also, what were the Tea Bagger protesters so bitter about? Why were White men protesting a President who did nothing to them except be Black? Funny how it’s okay for their side to protest but somehow diabolical when the other side does the same.

Heh, I saw it with some pro Suffrage stuff. But maybe it’s like an early example of Poe’s Law? Or even that thing now when MRAs complain about something that’s actually a good thing (like the recent “people want sex to be about consent” thing)

How you’ll interpet it may be coloured by your pre existing expectations and the general context it appears in maybe? Like that trick in cinema.

I’m biased by my own writing style but the first quote in my stickie of quotes is about writing.

A scrupulous writer, in every sentence that he writes, will ask himself at least four questions, thus: 1. What am I trying to say? 2. What words will express it? 3. What image or idiom will make it clearer? 4. Is this image fresh enough to have an effect? And he will probably ask himself two more: 1. Could I put it more shortly? 2. Have I said anything that is avoidably ugly?
-George Orwell

As far as family goes. The way I see it there are two kinds of family. One you are born into, the other you seek out on your own. One demands your love, respect and compliance, while with the other love and respect flow naturally. In short, I think the whole thing about owing love, respect or loyalty to one’s biological family to be a huge load of bullshit.

Kids can be quite dramatic in their ability to blow tiny setbacks wayyyyy out of proportion. You tell them “no”, and it sets them off on a half-hour tirade about the unfairness of the world and how mommies are the worst ever.

Remind you of anyone?

abject sexual liberation

Now there’s an Orwellian turn of phrase, if he’s using “abject” in the sense of “without pride or dignity”. It’s degrading for women to have freedom?

@Oogly – wow, that’s awful. I’m so sorry about what you’re going through. You’re a good person and deserve love and support. *hugs*

@Falconer – yay, twin update!

It’s true, the hard work doesn’t go away once they’re out of diapers. It just morphs into a different form. I’m in the stage right now where everything, from pouring milk to putting on shoes, is a straight-up hostage negotiation (the hostage being my ability to get to work on time). Kindergarten is going to be interesting.

ooglyboggles – Adding to the pile of hugs and good wishes. I’m so glad you’re here with us at the best place on the internets!

I have come to the conclusion that I won the birth-family lottery. We may not have ever been the touchy-feeliest or most demonstrative, but every one of us has everyone else’s back; even when they’re scattered thousands of miles away.

I realize that I have had the great good fortune to bask in the unconditional love of that family for 56 years. Because of this, my life has been smooth and easy compared to that of many others and I am humbled.

Were we perfect? Hell, no! My parents, uncles, and aunts were all pretty bigoted, but mostly because they were raised that way, much as any other white family in the Midwest was. I like to think that most of them learned better, because none of us cousins have turned out bigoted because our parents never required us to be bigots. (If that makes any sense.)

If all the friends and acquaintances I’ve ever had make me see myself as something of a unicorn (especially where fathers are concerned) then this place has made me realize that the patriarchy makes for some bad family dynamics (especially where fathers are concerned.)

To bring this round to the OT, heartless Heartiste (and the rest of the manosphere) don’t seem to believe in unconditional love and they are dead WRONG. Unconditional love is one of the building blocks that make strong, healthy, happy people.

I hope every one of you get to experience that, no matter where you have to find it.

We recently talked about Insane Clown Posse and Juggalos on here, so I thought people would find it interesting that they’re planning a march of their own. It’s not about rights or politics or anything, but because they’re upset that they’re considered a loose gang by the FBI. They think it’s unfair that being part of a group known for violent outbursts is affecting their ability to get a job.

Women are psychologically built to deal with drama, because nothing is more drama-inducing that having to deal with a baby or a toddler.

It’s only “drama-inducing” if you’re a complete jackass and you don’t want to deal with kids at all.

Granted, I don’t like being around kids for any long period of time. I’m really introverted and it takes a lot of energy for me to be around kids because I’m being super careful not to say any swear words, or I’m being careful to make sure they’re okay.

However, even I know that kids aren’t fucking “drama”. They can be loud and annoying, but that’s just what being a kid is.

And even I will be around kids if I have to be and not treat them like shit because I’m not a complete jackass.

What a way to justify being an asshole to women. “Women love drama, so they make it, and that’s why they’re all cr*zy!”

Especially considering how much these used spittoons are getting all riled up about a fucking women’s march and are trying to extrapolate what the women’s lives must be like. In other words, they’re creating drama where there is none.

For its members, the Bitter Bitch Bureau provides a platform for bitching bitterly. Between bitching bouts, boardmembers are given ganache bon-bons, receive red and white wine (which will pair peculiarly well with white whines) and enjoy extracurricular exclamations of bitter bitching to their complete contentment.

I remember a bit of drama in the toddler-ish years. They don’t have a lot of dampener on their emotions, they express unbelievable joy – such happiness over such small things (which is fun) and then such misery or outrage over such small things (not so much fun). But yeah a lot of parenting toddlers is wearying eternal vigilance (why have you dumped all the shampoo in the bath? how did you find my carefully hidden sharpie and draw all over my sofa) and lots of the graft of personal care.

I kinda miss the unfettered joy, but I don’t miss the meltdowns. I haven’t created new drama over this. I don’t think so anyway.

/reads the thread after a long night
Wow. I didn’t expect this at all. Usually I end up being the one in the wrong or am ignored. I got to say thank you to all of you.

@PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
Thanks.
@Scildfreja Unnýðnes
Sometimes I feel with any relative any mistake is a landmine. Honstly I feel better off as a non-entity. Thank you for the kind words and encouragement.
@Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Agent of the FemiNest Collective; Keeper of a Hell Toupee
Stuffed animals are always nice, thank you.
@Fishy Goat
Well at the very least he didn’t take my laptop and phone and shut off the wifi. That’s something. I’m pretty sure its because he needs the internet to continue watching fox news, and that he’d rather have me fix the wifi than him going through the effort for cable tv.
@Laugher at Bigots, Mincing Betaboy
I’m the hot potato of the family, my mother and step parent say they’re for me, but I know that I will never change my personality to fit what they want. The other option is my aunts and a steady job, but at this point I’m not sure, I already have signed up for classes but now I’m not so sure what to do.

The only way I can see myself escaping anyone is the minute I fully understand accounting to the point where I can land a steady job as a white collar grunt. Then I can finally stop being a financial/emotional shame to everyone.
@Dalillama: Shepherd of Demonic Crocodiles.
Thank you for the hugs.
@Headologist
/hugs
@kupo
Well it comes with the package of a traditionally asian family I guess.
@Bina
The infuriating part is that he DOES know alot of things. Plumbing, electrical, roofing, business, landlord, he know it and does not hesitate to flaunt that when he’s pissed. I can’t even give the answer of “I do not know how to deal with x problem so I’ll go look it up on the net so I can have an idea of what to do” and I just failed the argument and get a prize of him illustrating how I’d be the fool.
@Anarchonist
Thank you for the sentiments.
@occasional reader
To be fair for their fault or most likely mine I’ve been on a steady decline since middle school. If I focus on one thing another thing drops, and then I try to focus on that than another task drops, and so on.
@eli’s got a clean pair of heels
Thank you for that.
@Kat
The closest thing to therapy is several miles away with cars I can’t use since he has the keys. I’m used to having my spirit crushed. The songs in my head are silent and every second feels like an eternity. I’m nowhere near the scholar my other siblings are, so I understand why they act like that. I’ll still resist the best I can until the day I can finally live on my own.
@Kootiepatra
Your kindness is more than enough.
@EJ (Marxist Jazz Weasel)
Yay the Beta Orbiter Relay System. Watch out for the emasculation rays.
@opposablethumbs
When I can get enough skills/connections I’ll finally be able to move out, find a small studio, learn to cook, talk to people on my long walks and all sorts of things after a nice long day at work. That’ll be the day.
@Christina Nordlander, Emperor’s White Knight
It’ll be a while. As I am now I need to rely on the goodwill of my relatives to have a roof over my head.
@Lea
It’s okay, maybe when I’m more self reliant I can feel like I deserve better.
@Falconer
@Joekster
Honestly sometimes I feel like I do deserve it. I have naught the life experience and skills as all of you. Thank you for helping me believe that’s not the case and I don’t deserve it.
@Victorious Parasol
What a lovely cuddle pile.
@personalpest
When he goes on tangents regarding his father and his inquisitive nature as a child I keep thinking about his relationship with his other kin. His first son is a nonentity as far as everyone else is concerned. My sister wanted to live with him after what started out as a reprimand for keeping her room clean to a full blown argument I’d rather not speak of. I don’t know exactly what he says to her, but when we’re all together she seems to make an effort of keeping her distance.
@Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
Thank you for that. It’s not something I hear that often.
@Jesalin
Thank you.
@Buttercup Q. Skullpants
I honestly have trouble believing that is true. I’ll try to believe that either way, thank you.
@Hambeast (fan of diversity)
At least you got a happy family. That reminds me of when my former roommate said I didn’t seem happy to talk to my mom, and all I can answer is “it’s weird?”
@Paradoxical Intention: Resident Cheeseburger Slut
Thank you PI.

Also, what were the Tea Bagger protesters so bitter about? Why were White men protesting a President who did nothing to them except be Black? Funny how it’s okay for their side to protest but somehow diabolical when the other side does the same.

I have had several Republicans online pose the question to me in the last week or so: “Well, would it feel OK to you if Hillary had won, and people were protesting that?” And it’s like…the last eight years…did you experience them…my God…WHAT?

I hope I’m not just rehashing the ‘youve got your whole life ahead of you cliché’ but in a way that is of course true. I really feel for you with all the crap you’re having to face. It can be particularly awful cos you’ve got that thing where to an extent there’s a dependency at the moment for practical stuff like a roof over your head and food. That can maybe add to the demoralising feeling and the pressure to succeed in the world.

As they say though ‘success is the best revenge’. That can be one hell of a motivator. But whilst it might not seem like it now, there’s no rush to set yourself up on any specific life path. You’ve probably not clocked up a quarter of your time on earth yet, and only a tiny fraction of your ‘grown up’ life. I hope you don’t succumb to any feelings that you have few or no options or that you’re not a pretty outstanding person. Maybe there’s a bit of dunning kruger going on here? You’re clearly a very bright person. Anyone who reads your posts will see that. But it can be hard to see it yourself when you’re constantly being belittled and, no offence intended, you don’t have the life experience to see how outstanding you are.

Nothing is permanent in life (except Brahma) as they say. Whatever path you choose now, you always have options to change later. So maybe just choose a temporary solution that gets you a bit of independence in the earliest possible timeframe? That’ll give you a bit of breathing space to consider what you might want to do with your life rather than having it dictated to you or feeling under pressure to live up to the expectations of others.

Anyway, just a few thoughts. Take them on board or discard them at your choosing. The whole point is of course that the only person you should be beholden to is yourself.

Considering how many women took “nasty woman” as a badge of honor (a LOT of “Nasty women” signs and T-shirts at the march), I’m pretty sure calling these women names will just make them be like “Okay, lol” and then use those names on their shirts at the next march.

None of these women give a shit about what Heartiste thinks, but he can continue to wank himself hoping they do.

because none of us cousins have turned out bigoted because our parents never required us to be bigots. (If that makes any sense.)

That makes TOO MUCH SENSE. I was always such a disappointment to my father for not taking after him in his bigotry and actually having the gall to object to it.

@Oogly

Glad to hear from you.

One thing stood out to me, not addressed to me, but…

To be fair for their fault or most likely mine I’ve been on a steady decline since middle school. If I focus on one thing another thing drops, and then I try to focus on that than another task drops, and so on.

This is totally normal! I hate the word fault! You are just fine!

I’m still trying to learn this at my advancing age, I’m not berating you. It just makes me so sad that we punish ourselves so harshly and incessantly.

You are not declining, you are refining and growing, pruning away the parts that don’t suit you anymore.

I marched in London, I’m childless, so I suppose it’s up to me to tell some truths.

1) there were a lot of children on the march
2) that’s because we stole them
3) we bribed them with pink hats and amusing signs
4) the little ones, we just gave sugar
5) why didn’t the police and media report mass child abductions? Conspiracy!
6) we didn’t even return them afterwards
7) we took the little ones to our gingerbread houses and baked them in the oven
8) we are busy indoctrinating the older ones into our Bitter Bitch lifestyle (yes, even the boys)

@Ooglyboggles
That’s quite some awful brain washing, yet you aren’t fooled. What kind of fucked up “man”(father) wants to break his child’s spirit?? I’m glad you found a sane corner of the internet here to get perspective. Your father has been outvoted by a landslide here. It’s not just your wit, it’s your humor, resilience, and wisdom for your age.

@Alan Robertshaw’s quote about life experience is very apt.

You’re clearly a very bright person. Anyone who reads your posts will see that. But it can be hard to see it yourself when you’re constantly being belittled and, no offence intended, you don’t have the life experience to see how outstanding you are.

Fathers like that can be worse to sons who make them feel insecure about their alpha-hood. (Personal observation, no citation)

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