Nokia has been failing in its core business -- making hardware -- for a few years now. One flagship phone every one and a half years is not nearly enough.

People today don't give a rat's ass for the low-end phones. Where is the next top of the line Lumia that will be twice better than the current?

This article and the analysts state the complete opposite. The low end business is where Nokia makes most of its money. They actually sold more of their high end devices than last quarter but it was the lack of Asha sales that hurt them.

Nokia has been failing in its core business -- making hardware -- for a few years now. One flagship phone every one and a half years is not nearly enough.

People today don't give a rat's ass for the low-end phones. Where is the next top of the line Lumia that will be twice better than the current?

This article and the analysts state the complete opposite. The low end business is where Nokia makes most of its money. They actually sold more of their high end devices than last quarter but it was the lack of Asha sales that hurt them.

That's exactly what I'm implying -- Nokia should make more high end phones and move away from their "bread and butter".

Or are you suggesting that if they make twice as many cheap handsets they would miraculously convince people to buy them?

Nokia has been failing in its core business -- making hardware -- for a few years now. One flagship phone every one and a half years is not nearly enough.

I disagree. Nokias core business is making cheap quality phones, which are especially popular in emerging markets. (For some reason people in the industrialized world still think they need smartphones, maybe that'll change when tablets/Google glasses/whatever becomes the new fad).

I don't see anyone but Nokia making stuff like Nokia 105. A 20 USD phone that has more than a months (!) standby time.

Nokia has been failing in its core business -- making hardware -- for a few years now. One flagship phone every one and a half years is not nearly enough.

I disagree. Nokias core business is making cheap quality phones, which are especially popular in emerging markets. (For some reason people in the industrialized world still think they need smartphones, maybe that'll change when tablets/Google glasses/whatever becomes the new fad).

I don't see anyone but Nokia making stuff like Nokia 105. A 20 USD phone that has more than a months (!) standby time.

As much as I would love to buy a lumia 920 when it came out in the UK, I couldn't, because some idiot in Nokia marketing department thought Nokia is a marketing position to lock the handset to the overpriced 4G provider EE through exclusivity contracts. Even the "sim-free" version was locked to EE.

Nokia has been failing in its core business -- making hardware -- for a few years now. One flagship phone every one and a half years is not nearly enough.

I disagree. Nokias core business is making cheap quality phones, which are especially popular in emerging markets. (For some reason people in the industrialized world still think they need smartphones, maybe that'll change when tablets/Google glasses/whatever becomes the new fad).

I don't see anyone but Nokia making stuff like Nokia 105. A 20 USD phone that has more than a months (!) standby time.

I'd get a Nokia 105 myself, but really, I paid 10USD for a Nokia C1-01, and that has a camera and MP3 as well. Perfect phone except the missing flashlight really.

Not this one, but I got a cheap Nokia a while back as a temporary phone until mine was fixed. Was surprised how many features they were actually including in them now (only down side was lack of snake)

I would fall all over myself getting my wallet out for a quality Nokia Android phone. Samsung gets a little too plasticky for my tastes, LG has pooped out some pretty sub-par stuff, and I don't know what on earth HTC has done to themselves lately.

I would fall all over myself getting my wallet out for a quality Nokia Android phone. Samsung gets a little too plasticky for my tastes, LG has pooped out some pretty sub-par stuff, and I don't know what on earth HTC has done to themselves lately.

Just get an iPhone - the tops in industrial design and an OS that is 100% functional and beautiful at the same time. Also iOS has all the best apps.

Just get an iPhone - the tops in industrial design and an OS that is 100% functional and beautiful at the same time. Also iOS has all the best apps.

After having played with an iPhone 5 lately, I think iOS is starting to look/feel super dated, and really don't like the multi-tasking model. Those are two things that are non-starters for me. Their integration with Google services is always sub-par compared to what I'm used to (and I use the crap out of Google services).

I would fall all over myself getting my wallet out for a quality Nokia Android phone. Samsung gets a little too plasticky for my tastes, LG has pooped out some pretty sub-par stuff, and I don't know what on earth HTC has done to themselves lately.

The HTC One X/S looked really good, and the One has been getting outstanding reviews.

Personally though I wouldn't buy anything other than a Nexus because I actually want updates.

Apple & Samsung are growing exponentially while Nokia is growing linearly. That won't cut it. Pretty clear to me by now that Elop is a Trojan horse designed to gut the company so that Microsoft can get the valuable patents.

Lumia represents only about 10% of the company's overall mobile phone portfolio and the jump in deliveries of the smartphone couldn't hide the fact that its two largest business units, Devices & Services and Nokia Siemens Networks, lost sales at an alarming rate. Think that this has to do more with their stock price dropping, then sales of their smartphones? I do.

Just get an iPhone - the tops in industrial design and an OS that is 100% functional and beautiful at the same time. Also iOS has all the best apps.

After having played with an iPhone 5 lately, I think iOS is starting to look/feel super dated, and really don't like the multi-tasking model. Those are two things that are non-starters for me. Their integration with Google services is always sub-par compared to what I'm used to (and I use the crap out of Google services).

What amazes me is just how it continues to fail to reach the US market. Despite having great technology and good looking products.

An Apple phone is a safe phone to buy. An Android is a cool or cheap phone to buy. That makes an opening for Nokia challenging.

If people had to pay for their phones rather than hid the real cost in a subsidized contract, perhaps they'd be more popular, as they are in the rest of the world.

I guess coming to the part late has a lot of disadvantages...

Part of the problem with Windows phones lack of sales is carriers ignoring them,a nd the other part is OEM's not building a quality handset, or if they do not selling it in the US or not marketing it properly at all. Just look at Samsung's Ativ S Windows handset. If Samsung place the same marketing prowess behind the Ativ S that they did the Galaxy line of Android phones, I truly believe that the Ativ would be their top selling handset, but Samsung ignores it and only they know why.http://www.samsung.com/global/ativ/ativ_s.html

Pretty clear by now that Windows Phones are a total flop. Nobody wants one, they just accidently buy one because they're a new smartphone buyer and the salesperson steered them.

The UI is shitty and the functionality is 50% of iOS/Android, not to mention there are hardly any apps.

If wp 8 has soo many missing features why does my wp 8 automatically read an incoming text message to me in my car without having to press any buttons while I had to press my Bluetooth button and tell siri to read text message on my iphone 4s?

Nokia has been failing in its core business -- making hardware -- for a few years now. One flagship phone every one and a half years is not nearly enough.

People today don't give a rat's ass for the low-end phones. Where is the next top of the line Lumia that will be twice better than the current?

This article and the analysts state the complete opposite. The low end business is where Nokia makes most of its money. They actually sold more of their high end devices than last quarter but it was the lack of Asha sales that hurt them.

Not really, as what hurt them was its two largest business units -- Devices & Services and Nokia Siemens Networks - lost sales at an alarming rate. Lumia only accounts for 10% of the company's overall mobile phone portfolio

WP is not failing globally, as in most countries WP have a double digit market share. It is just in the US where it is basically a blip on the radar due to carriers/OEM's not marketing it properly. Samsung makes an excellent WP device and they do not sell it int eh US, the Ativ S, they do not even put any marketing behind the device, if they did it would be a top seller. http://www.samsung.com/global/ativ/ativ_s.html