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Iran, Russia And Their Allies Say US Missile Strike On Syria Air Base Crosses ‘Red Lines’

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The joint command center of Russia, Iran, Syria and their allied forces (Hezbollah and other pro-government factions) allegedly issued a statement condemning the US military strike on Syrian forces.

The statement described the attack that targeted an airbase belonging to the Syrian Arab Army as a flagrant breach of all “red lines.”

According to the statement, the allies will respond to any new agression and will increase support to the Syrian people and the country’s armed forces on all levels.

“What America waged in an aggression on Syria is a crossing of red lines. From now on we will respond with force to any aggressor or any breach of red lines from whoever it is and America knows our ability to respond well,” the text of the statement reads.

The statement also condemned the incident in Khan Sheikhoun and added that the Syrian military was not responsible for the alleged chemical attack.

The statement has already become popular in the mainstream media:

It’s important to note that the statement was released via “non-official” media channels linked to the Iranian-Syrian-Russian alliance’s forces operating in Syria.

The full text of the statement allows to suggest that the Russians were not deeply involved in preparing it. Most likely, the statement was the Iranian initiative.

The Russian Defense Ministry and the Iranian Defense Ministry have not commented on the issue yet.

Many sources suggest that the Iranian-Syrian-Russian alliance could launch a fresh military operation in order to reach Khan Sheikhoun in Idlib’s southern countryside. The control over this village will allow to open a real investigation of the alleged chemical attack in the village.

A text of the statement released by Hezbollah’s media wing in Syria

Full statement:

The joint command center (Russia, Iran and the allied forces) in Syria issued the following statement:

1. The US attack against Syria is a dangerous violation and bold aggression against the sovereignty of the country and its people. It is condemned and it proves once again the wrong options choosen by the US.

2. This attack is a notorious continuation of injustice and discrimination against Syria, in a time when it has been fighting multinational terrorism on behalf of the entire world for 6 years, sacrificing the blood of many of its people to achieve victory over those barbaric terrorists.

3. We condemn any attack on civilians whoever they are. And what happened in Khan Shaykhun is condemned. However, we believe that it has been prepared ahead by some countries and organizations to make it a pretext for attacking Syria.

4. Those who support, train and fund terrorist groups such as Daesh [ISIS], al-Nusra and their affiliates, those who violate the legitimate rights of the people of the country, and those who used the veto dozens of times against the Palestinian people has no right to present their selves as a human rights defender and pretend caring for the dignity of the peoples of the region especially in Syria, Iraq and Palestine.

5. The arrogant US neither waited anybody’s permission nor respected the member states of the United Nations Organization, and before the results of the investigations on the Khan Shaykhun were issued. The US attacked Syria and boasted what it did.

6. We are not ignorant of what the US is seeking to achieve in Northern Syria and Northwest Iraq. They have to know that we are accurately observing every single step and movement they make, and that their attempt to control this areas makes them an illegitimate power aiming to occupy sovereign Syrian lands.

7. What America waged in an aggression on Syria is a crossing of red lines. From now on we will respond with force to any aggressor or any breach of red lines from whoever it is and America knows our ability to respond well.

8. This US behavior won’t hinder our battle to get rid of terrorism, we will continue our fight by the side of the Syrian Arab Army and the friendly Syrian Armed Forces to liberate every Syrian land from the dirty occupation.

9. Russia and Iran won’t allow the US to control the world and impose the unipolar system by continuing direct aggression against the Syrian state, violating international laws and the United Nations framework, and will stand against the US powerfully no matter what.

10. In response to this criminal aggression, we, as Syria allies, will increase our support of the Syrian Arab Army and the brotherly Syrian people in various means.

You are a shit for brains Dutch asswipe who KNOWS NOTHING about the real world. You probably believe that Russia shot down MH17. I know better. retired flight engineer. and USA/Dutch citizen. Vietnam Veteran. I noticed most Dutch people are as stupid as Americans. Very gullible and easily fooled/ Here is my DD214. Look at my birthplace. https://www.dropbox.com/s/vkzyb8uf333hdyh/dd2142.JPG?dl=0

dutchnational

See my reaction your other diatribe.

Daruka

Oh yes, you are the people so easy to hoodwink with fake news. There aren’t enough vile expletives in the universe to describe self righteous people like you. You would probably cheer at the murder of children by the USA/EU funded terrorists trying to oust Assad , the eye doctor and his lovely wife HERE. All based on lies. Gullible lemmings abound in the USA/NL Notice that Mrs. Assad doesn’t wear a Burka
Mrs Assad speaks out

This might all be true, or not. It does not matter to me. The one who reacts on a discussion not with fact, opinions, but by namecalling, that person is in my opinion feeble minded and one whose opinion does not matter to me beyond that point.
You could be a billionaire owning whole countries, I still would base my opinion on the way you interact.

You interact respectless, not based upon facts or funded opinions but on a somehow felt baseless sense of superiority.

You might have, it seems, a few years on me, not many I think unless you are in your 80ies, but you react like an adolescent without maturity.

I can totally respect someone with different opinions then mine, be they old or young. I totally disrespect namecallers. I totally disrespects outright biggots and racists, whatever their other qualities.

John Mason

you should not disclose that sort of information, you never know who is responding or reading it. Undoubtedly some who frequent here have also experience whether civil or military and one can tell by their comments without disclosing any pertinent information. Just a friendly bit of advice.

Antikapitalista

Indeed, that must be your perception, as suggesting that he were a terrorist must have been perceived by you as winning an argument.

It does make you sound feeble-minded in your pitiful self-righteousness, though.

Yes, you are right in this case. In general, we prefer to not ban users in comments.

NeoLeo

Agree, but there must be some ‘red lines’ even here :D

Gabriel Hollows

Why, does the truth hurt your feelings? Or are you actually stupid enough to think the US government is ‘white supremacist’?

NeoLeo

What truth, you are hallucinating… Are actually stupid enough to comprehend my comment or just blind to read his retarded insults (maybe he is your alter account or your boyfriend, but tbh I don’t really care)

Antikapitalista

It is not about the truth. His posts had nothing to do with truth; they were the most disgusting examples of *trolling*—and say this with full responsibility, as I exercise extreme caution in calling someone a troll because trolls are ugly giant cave dwellers who turn to stone in the sunlight.

Jens Holm

Southfront is fine and just as fine as anyone else or more – the common thing is, You have to put a filter in.

Well, at least some of the trolls get the value of 0. I try to be better than that and check all written here in the articles on other medias, if there is any doub, and its possible.

Carol Davidek-Waller

An unjustified attack against a sovereign nation which benefits organized terrorism is an act of war…not a declaration of war. Defending these actions is a defense of world wide terrorism.

VeeNarian (Yerevan)

The violent US will not learn a lesson until it gets it b….. kicked in. Invaders to Syria need a really special welcome.
What if Iraq and Iran turn on all those US troops in Iraq?

Jens Holm

You must have a memory lack, but of course things change.

USA and we were called back by both Bagdads and Kurdistan 2004. Its not our fault Bagdads armed ISIS as well as old Baatistas and the army were only 10% in seize and the rest was corruptionmoney for the leaders, which already had to much.

You can add, that ISIS got very well armed for free by first and well used armery for billions as well as many other types of equipment armies normaly use.

You seems to be rather misinformed. Many here still wonder whu maliki & Co are not in very heavy chains. Seems like he hardly could contgrol, what was comming out from his behind.

Im sure USA and we would leave any moment with most of the stuff and soldiers.

Jens Holm

Well, someone which seems not to know, that there is a convension about ABC weapons and try to set fire.

Antikapitalista

It would not surprise me in John Mason’s post had been written by a stupid brainwashed American because its contents suggested that its writer could not distinguish defence from aggression.

John Mason

considering your stupid remarks I am the liberty of replying in a manner that it suits. You dumb shit, arse licking moron, it has been proven already. Suggest you do some research, not the yank media, before you engage your limited grey matter.

Mr. Perfect

“And their allies”

Lol all 2 of their allies.

Nexusfast123

The US has no allies. Only vassal states.

Solomon Krupacek

i do not think so, but if you were right, then russia has no allies, no vassals. is single alone.
against enemies, which have 1 bllion citizens. (and finally, china is also future enemy with +1.5 billion inhabitants)

Jens Holm

Agree, I see russians much more isolated. What do they have to the economy and growth. Well raw materials and lately also good rockets for warfare. thats it exept from vodka and kaviar.

VeeNarian (Yerevan)

Including my very own gutless, supine and slavish UK.

Jens Holm

Thats not true at all. You must be on another planet or something.

dutchnational

A troll does not even exist, is only being paid.

Jens Holm

agree.

Terence Silvestre Jr.

Although unfortunately I can only believe in the bravery and loyalty of Iran as allied to Syria for the simple reason that Russia is urinating in fear of what can happen to him if he defends in the slightest one of his allies even being one as strategic as Syria .
How coward looks at Russia with silly excuses to justify its zero basic reaction to military survival by abandoning one of its allies as needy as Syria to its fate.

Luigi

Russia is not in position to stop US even on its own borders. Russia is doing everything to avoid a conventional confrontation in Syria it knows that will loose but, at same time, its doing everything to look strong and patient. The US knows that very well, of course, and controls the development of the conflict according to its own interest which is the balkanization of middle east.

Nexusfast123

The US and its dumb vassal states could never invade and subdue Russia. An attack on Russia would result in a nuclear response. They are not going to fight a conventional war.

Jens Holm

Why should we invade Russia. The only thing we need from them is oil and gas, and russians even make wars to get it out to us. You must be very hard censured.

A conventional war. I hope You are right, there will be none, but Russians are provocing to much to show they are macho non gay and the biggest dwarfs in tbhe world – or something.

zman

The last Europeans with any nuts were both dictators…and they got their asses handed to them by Russia…and a very backward Russia at that. That Russia is gone. Anyone stupid enough to attack Russia will live to regret it. Russia is doing very well, thank you very much. They have the stupidity of the Europeans to suck up to the US to thank for that. Their economic outlook is far better than the US and EU. The stupid sanctions have done nothing to hurt Russia, on the contrary, it forced the Russians to expand their manufacturing base…that means that all the commerce the EU lost may never come back. See what happened to Turkey? See how Erdo crawled back to Russia? This may be the fate of Europe. The EU doesn’t see the pipelines getting put through Syria either, hence they acquiesced to the nordstream to Germany. If I thought the US citizen was spent, the crap I read from some europeans must mean that their news is cloned from Faux News.

Terence Silvestre Jr.

Thus being so futile is so much boasting on the part of Russia. It would be better for Putin to withdraw peacefully from the geopolitical world scene in order to avoid further humiliation and contempt of his American counterpart and speak to the truth with his allies in Syria about his pathetic reality ending once and for all with all false hope of protection and aid From his part to his allies. Do not you believe my friend?

Alex

Sorry, not going to happen :)

Terence Silvestre Jr.

Then it is time for Russia to live up to its role in the shifting global arena of geopolitics with bravery and without fear of cost of anything.
Knowing that his enemies will begin to fear him and to respect him more than they will do seeing Russian fearful and coward.

PZIVJ1943

So how is Russia being fearful and cowardly in being in Syria in the first place.
Do you think the Muslim countries will be drawn closer to US in this “great missile attack” I think not.
Russia is being responsible and smart in not trying to escalate the conflict in the Middle East. Right now Trump is the “tough guy”.

Terence Silvestre Jr.

It will always predominate who is know to be able to do everything and whatever to achieve its goal, supremacy and absolute respect from all.
Knowing that, no one would ever dare to challenge him for fear and respect for him. Then a conflict with him will never be escalate by anyone.
What is very different when for fear ”to escalate the conflict” a country lets himself be trampled by everyone.
Therefore, the days of Russia in Syria are numbered since the Americans now know that for fear ”to escalate the conflict”, Putin is able to do little or nothing to defend himself and his ally. Do you understand my friend?

PZIVJ1943

I understand that the US is the big bully on the block.
But their military adventures have not fared well over many decades.
Do you think this time is different against the Muslims ??

zman

I understand that you are delusional. If they did not fear Russia, they would have leveled Syria as they did Libya. As their latest foray showed just how useless their weapons may now be, they will be forced to possibly use nukes, in one form or another. They had their illegal army of terrorists in place, were well on their way to destroying Syria, yet what has happened? That Russia/Putin reacts in ways that confound the west is quite amusing. But in the end, they do get the message. The utter failure of this last attack on the Syrian airbase is more that just embarrassing, it sends a message. That message may be lost on the ‘little people’, but it’s not lost on the Pentagram & friends…Israel, KSA and NATO.

Jens Holm

Well, those missils were a reminder. When Obama reseized because of sensible critics about they and we were too much there – It was and are in the most infame way seen as we are weak.

People down there might change their attitude. Seems like peace and common sense is not understandable by dictators, which rule by fear, arms, jails, executions, gas, torture a.s.o.

That include Russia dancing like a mouse, when the cat is not there.

So now they have Trump & Co as an elephant in must and bad temper.

Jens Holm

Well, as long as their BNP is like Spain they are too much ballon and seems hardly able to keep it warm.

zman

Then how would they differ from the criminal slaughterers in the west? Americans are mostly amazed by Russias resolve and refusal to be goaded into knee-jerk reactions. Just because the MSM in the US babbles on as if all is well and Putin is a dictator and the US is wearing shining armor doesn’t mean Americans believe it. To most Americans, Trump is a fool, a liar and a conman. He has so far reneged on every promise made, save the Mexican wall, but he’ll welch on that too. Most that supported Trump did so because he promised to make nice with Russia…he just screwed us on that too.

Jens Holm

Very optimistic. Seems like russians as KGB chapter 2 has to go down again or learn. it shpuldnt be difficult to be more nice.

Loki

Why don’t you try invading in Russia then,if it’s going to be that easy? Hitler was thinking the same thing,and you know what happened next.

Jens Holm

Hitler was a military fool. In fact he made the mistake already in “Mein kampf”. Here he wrote all slaves should be killed apart from the ones, which were usefull as workers.

Instead he could have written that Polacks and Russians meaning those from Leningrad and Moscaw should be something like that.

Then they could have made Ukraine to a new land in east having its food, coal and iron with stahlveredler as friends working with no whips. Those didnt like russians and would have kept all russians out.

So the Hitler plan should be to take Ukraine first and as intact as possible and if possible there to take some oilwell north of Caukasus.

At the same time but more moderate go around Móscow and the unmechanized defense from attacks from Balticum.

He might have lost anyway, but that wa the optimisation and he would at least loose later then it happend.

Sorry, i have tried to work with it very much as an amateur…

zman

The same thing that happened to Napoleon. These people are delusional if they think NATO can do anything but posture. Every assessment by the US military states that Russia would defeat NATO in short order. Are the European govs hiding this from their citizens? As for adventurism, who is it that is violating agreements made when the USSR dissolved? Who is moving weapons and troops on whose borders? Who has violated the Minsk accords at every turn? How strange that people confuse civility with cowardice, criminal invasions with strength. If Russia is so chickenshit, why haven’t they ‘returned’ Crimea?

Nexusfast123

No need to light up their radars to shoot down a bunch of technologically ancient missiles. It seems that many did not get to their target. Maybe they got ‘lost’ on the way.

Terence Silvestre Jr.

I’m afraid that’s not the reason my friend. The true reason is of a more shameful, treacherous and coward nature than it seems at first sight. For this you only have to read the excuses presented by the same Russian leaders to justify their null reaction cowardly to the world in front of the American affront. Believe me the Russian excuses had nothing to do with what you talk about my friend.

NeoLeo

Yeah sure, let’s blame Russia for everything, they should defend Syria instead of Syrians! – how many of them are hiding in Germany, how many young men are hiding in Damascus, and even those who are mobilized are mostly cowards. Sorry to say, but that’s the truth. How many of them (including high ranking officials and military officers) sold their country, their souls for saudi money and turkish promises? Way too many. And way too many Russians already died for some worthless desert and rocks in Palmyra, you think they should go full kamikaze and start a full scale nuclear war over Syria? I don’t think so.

Terence Silvestre Jr.

Not everyone who claims to be a citizen is a real citizen and that applies well to pseudo Syrians who do not watch over the interests of their country.
The case of Russia is different in everything.
Russia by invitation of his friend Assad in Syria came to assist him as the Allies do to coast and against what was.
That was not the case on Friday at dawn when Russia cowardly shut down their antiaircraft weapons systems leaving Syria totally defenseless at the mercy of American missiles as aerial bombardments of the latter if they wanted With the cowardly excuse of fearing a nuclear confrontation with the United States if they destroy their missiles to protect Syria.
So if that cowardly Russian act that tarnishes all the other achievements of russia in syria is not a betrayal of one of his allies, what will it be? It matters little the result of the attack of the americans but the little o almost nothing Russian commitment to one of its allies being unjustly attacked.

Terence Silvestre Jr.

Regardless of the excuses and pretexts that your commentary brings to us, nothing can justify to global criticism the cowardly behavior of my beloved Russia during the attack of its only strategic ally that will ever have in the Middle East.
That’s, regardless of his previous achievements in Syria, all tarnished in allowing that American attack on his Sirius ally. I fear that is the only true my friend.

NeoLeo

Well, I do understand your disappointment, but remember Russia did nothing to prevent numerous Israeli air strikes, turkish incursions (*long story there), they did nothing when the US airplanes attacked Deir ezZor and killed more Syrian soldiers than in Shairat (more than 100! and it was NOT a mistake). Russian narrative from the first day is: we are in Syria to fight against terrorism (not to fight for Assad). True or not, but they never promised to defend Syrian territory from non-terrorist threats/attacks.

Terence Silvestre Jr.

” To fight against terrorism (not to fight for Assad) ”?
Then it urges Russia to know, identify and localize well its terrorist objectives. Because according the definition of the new version of Real Ingles Academy:
” USA = Terrorist number one, with high specialty in sponsoring, training and creating new terrorist groups for multiple use worldwide ”
Please my friend, defending Syria from terrorist threat is and means exactly what it is and nothing more. Everything else is no more that mere banal and infused excuses to evade Russia’s duty as an unconditional ally of Assad.

PZIVJ1943

“Russia’s duty as an unconditional ally of Assad”
You are dreaming here my friend.

Terence Silvestre Jr.

If I’m not right what do you suggest then? It is about exchanging firm critical comments here. So, in order to avoid World War III, do you suggest that Russia and the rest of the world kneel before the Americans and allow themselves to be trampled and humiliated in order not to be exterminated by their power? You then support an act of collective cowardice in honor of survival. I fear that by people thinking like you the world is so oppressed and over exploited by the devastating politics of the Americans my dear friend.

Jens Holm

Its a very strange world You and Silvestre lives in.

NeoLeo

Planet Earth is strange indeed, you must be from someplace else – probably from Uranus…. now go back there.

Jens Holm

Thats rubbish again. Seems You have taken our IQ by temperatur in the behind. If You are a kind of minitroll, I how You are low paid too.

Terence Silvestre Jr.

What are you talking about, my friend? I’m sorry if you do not agree with any of my comments. And if i hurt you in anything, you can rest assured that it was nothing personal.
I just try to humbly share what I think and nothing else. Blessings.

zman

It might serve you well to look at the Russians mission statement. They stated from the first that they were there to fight terrorists, not to protect Assad. Also, do you people really believe that 36 very accurate cruise missiles just ‘got lost’. If there is a clue out there that something is amiss, just listen to the utter silence from the Pentagram. They usually faun all over themselves in admiration of their accomplishments. Why no bragging? Because they ran into something they can’t defend against. There are now pix and video of downed Tomahawks and video of them being taken out. Let there be no doubt, the US, NATO and Israel are admitting failure in their silence. As for the Russian approach, it looks to me more like giving the west all the rope it takes to hang themselves. Sooner or later, Europe will have to fish or cut bait. They will either join the US in poking themselves in the eye or they will turn on the US. They have to be careful of really pissing off Russia, until the terrorists get their pipelines through Syria. Do you now know why ‘Assad must go’?

Terence Silvestre Jr.

I like your comment. And the truth, I pray for there to be a more intelligent and strategic reason in the Russian null act against the cowardly American affront of last Friday. I hope you are right, my friend.

Alex

That’s the problem with you americunts, overconfident pieces of garbage.

Jens Holm

Middle east is just a hobby.

Ronald

Russia’s reaction is not hasty . The following days will tell the story .
This whole drama was aimed at China . Just before Trump sat down with Xi for dinner on the seventh , he ordered the strike . After dinner as the missiles were striking , he told Xi , they talked for eleven minutes , and Xi left .

pao

I hope Iraq joins in to support Syria militarily once they have secured their own country.

Luigi

Iraqi militias are already supporting Syria. After cleaning Mosul, I also hope the Iraq army will help to break the siege of Deir Ezzor and clean all west Syria.

cortisol

Can Iran attack US forces in Iraq and Saudi Arabia through the shia militias or is ISIS tying up too much resources? They should know by now that they are next if Syria goes. Putin used to say that if a fight is deemed inevitable, strike first. I think a red line would be another missile strike, on an airfield, troop concentration or air defense system.

I think some (like a lot) stars and stripes coffins on a CNN video is long overdue now considering the level of cockiness has reached. Optimal of course would be to clear ISIS first and then break Deir Ezzor siege… but I doubt the USAAF mishap airforce will ever allow that to happen.

Jens Holm

USA forces are invited by the Iraqian Goverment as well as Iraqi kurdistan.

Hardly I dont think You think and know very much about it.

Why only CNN. You can take all the other american channels down as well as ours. USA is not alone in those matters as well. In Syria You have and had french, danish, australians and britts as a minimum. Right now french artillery is around Raqqa.

And correct USAF and other airforces as weel as others with ships and missiles can be there soon. Obama calmed down the activity there, but its easy to get much more in.

PZIVJ1943

So what does European media have to say about this weak missile attack.
Is Trump just trying to make a lot of noise? Some weak minds think that this a major move by US into Syria and conflict with Russia. I doubt it.
Most think that war is just a fricking video game.

Jens Holm

I think most europeans, which think we should be there at all are positive for telling Assads and the russians, that we are there. But many see Trump as very unstabile.

You always has the weakminded. They seemes to be a minority and some say SDF should be heklped much more to remove ISIS faster. 5 Years is a long time.

Not many think much of the wellfare of kurds, but Turks has fallen vertical in prestige and it was already very low.

Well, thats how mixted it is. Most people know ABC weapons are not allowed and gas has been used several times.

My garden is doing fine, but the spring is not here yeat, because I live close to the ocean, which still is cold.

I have some unkwon succulents and cactus`s in my windows. They grow too big and its almost prepared to start new ones from them. If not I cant close curtains in the evening and with too much sun.

samy levrai

Deir Ezzor was already the last red line… let’s see the next one…

Nexusfast123

The US is run by a group of degenerate idiots. If they blunder into a ground war they will quickly regret it.

Jens Holm

You have to read their constituion. Its not like that.

Whos says anything about a ground war. Only the enemies of USA/Nato and friends say that.

Seems You prefare ISIS

zman

What would you call it when Trumpet sends in hundreds of troops? A picnic? What the hell does our constitution have to do with it? None of the traitorous Zionist butt kissers we here call our government have a clue about it in the first place…it’s only convenient when they use it to bamboozle the fools here called voters. Seems not all the fools are here in the US.

Jens Holm

Seems You are a supporter of ISIS and dont like kurds.

Thank You.

Gas attacks are fine and Assads never do that and never has.

Jens Holm

Its not Trump sending those troops in. My comment tell You – whatever You are an anachistic gunslinger or just an uneducated moron – that republicans and the parlament with McCain as leader of the war comitty has planed those extra troops to take Raqqa for years.

Trump is no dictator and the power in USA is diveded. Thats what I tell You. And You are right abolut the Ministers. Some seems not to be the right for the job and some are total unexpirienced.

Well, thats why their power is limited to and much is runned by the deeper administrations.

Trump can order any fence at Mexico, but do he have the money or can just print some. No – You moron.

Same thing with that Obama care.

I can agree about You electionsystems in some matters are very strange, but it is possible to elect others. But it neeeds reforms.

“we believe that it has been prepared ahead by some countries and organizations to make it a pretext for attacking Syria.”

The first thing that joint command needs to do is GET RID OF all and any US bases in Syria!
They constitute an illegal act of aggression against and invasion of a sovereign ally.
If you do not then you are little more than US patsies deliberately prolonging Syria’s agony.

Jens Holm

And Kurds will make an Empire, for they are the real Ottomans – Not some lowlife farmers and slumstormers naming themselves as turks even they are more mixted up with themselves than others.

Fritz Otto

The best would be to sunk some new aircraft carriers… Only if the losses of US-lives will show strong increasing, the US-people will be able to stop this nonsense…
Thats also the reason to use terrorists for some purposes instead, since these men are dying outsides the US-statistics and there is nothing to pay as widow- and children rent even after death…
To engage terrorists is so much more cost-effecttively

Peter Moy

Good point and it really hurts Americans who refuse to face the truth. The entire country goes into the mourning phase when American military personnel are killed in one of these wars. Contrast that to the daily carnage – murder – that occurs in American cities and towns each and every day. People are killed by the bushel. Some numbers: in 2015 the FBI reported 15,696 murders. For 2016 they predict over 16,000. Where are the UN peacekeeping troops and coalitions? (Greetings from New York and Gruess Gott from New York City where we had “only” 330 killings last year!)

Jens Holm

Its manipulation to write this like that. First You have say, that those many are among as population of 325.000.000.

Next You should compare with others crimerates and how they are done. I dont defend. I explain. Fx the lowest You find US in any statistics are as number 73.

BUT, that rapported crimes. So countries which dont rapport becaue they dont rely on police or has no insurrance for it has thé rapported crime. Im afraid not.

We had some problems about foreingers stayed here were arrested much more than others. So they were criminals.

Well, some of them, but many were released after interrogation and after that in court too, some were not convicted as guilty. Actually we saw the crimerate were higher, but the police and the civiles expected som brown ones did this and that and forgot our own homemade criminals as suspected.

Things about that has changed to the better now, but still we see that happens now and then.

So be carefull eating numbers with no hesitation.

zman

You really should visit here. You would get your eyes opened. The US is not much more that a captive nation. The police shoot unarmed people willy nilly and rarely get held to account. We are financially raped daily. Sometimes we are robbed right on the street, in public, by the police. One has to sue the police to get their money/possession back. All that and never even be charged with a crime, much less be convicted. Every politician is a perverted criminal, that is manipulated by AIPAC for the benefit of Zionist Israel, who we give $3 Billion every year and recently gave them 39B over several years because of the Iran deal. Our governmental depts. serve only corporate interests, not the people. A good percent of our public ‘servants’ are dual citizen Israelis. We have 5% of world population and 25% of all people imprisoned in the world…spin that. I won’t even get into the US corporations that are raping the world wantonly, backed up by the US military.

dutchnational

This description could just as well describe Russia and China too. It is always easy to see either only one own faults or only the ones on the other side.

Fact is, there are no perfect large countries. All the examples of good governance, democracy are smaller countries, not the international powerhouses.

Antikapitalista

Not really; in fact, not at all. Only the the U.S.A. has such gun culture.

And only the United States of Aggression invaded *50 countries in 50 years*.

dutchnational

In fact, most arab states have the same gun culture. It can be found in most latin american countries too.

In fact, Russia has also invaded many countries over the years. The same goes for almost,no indeed, all other major powers that ever were, no exceptions.

The one partal exception was for a few hundreds years China when it was in its isolationist period. Oh, and Japan had one too for some time.

I do no have any problem with anyone blaming the US for its many faults but implying or outright saying they are uniquely at fault is just plain not true.

Real Anti-Racist Action

Crime did not get this high till the UN was founded.
Also, their have been UN troops stationed across America since the early 1990’s.
The UK has many troops stationed in the US as well, including many SAS all of the time also.
Mi6 likes to keep making sure America is doing the UK’s bidding.http://www.dailystormer.com/

Peter Moy

Thanks for the intel. I always knew that other countries had their military pilots train in the US but not special forces “deep cover operators.”

Guy

The Daily Stormer is no legitimate source.

zman

I wish you were right. Unfortunately our gov does not listen to us in the least. Those that would instigate a war are sick fools that are mistaken in the belief that a nuclear war is survivable. Russia sinking a US carrier would, undoubtedly, start an exchange that would likely go nuclear. Most of us do not trust our government to act with any intelligence at all. Lying, stealing, sex, whoring themselves, yes…smart decisions? No.

PZIVJ1943

Despite all of this noise of WW 3. Let us hope that the leaders are more sane than some of these people posting on this site. :D

Antikapitalista

No; in response to another dastardly attack, the U.S. ships could and should be sunk. There would be no further military escalation. The only thing that the United States of Aggression understands is military force. The North Atlantic Terrorist Organization would effectively break up, as the European lackeys would be scared to suffer for the blusterous moron.

TS

They had better add : 10: Remove the seat of the United Nations from the area of undue influence to a neutral territory that is devoid of a history of being part of aggression and violating the core principles of the UN charter.

gfsdyughjgd .

USA/Nato won’t make any progress against Russia and Iran even if it attack surprising.Russian responds will end at the rooms of white house.USA/Nato missile strike is useless it can even be shoot down by any none superpower country.Russian won’t even use nuclear weapons against USA because it is not needed against those expensive useless warships.

Ted

Red line crossed! Really? So the answer to 59 tomahawks is a strongly worded letter? Wow I hope this does not continue to escalate further, if so there may be some name calling in the future.

I would venture to guess the good news is this strongly worded letter was never actually mailed out. It was just written out and cooler heads prevailed. But by god, so help me if there’s another missile strike some ones going to the post office for stamps and this letter will be mailed !

zman

How about the fact that 59 Tomahawks accomplished absolutely nothing. 36 never made it to the target. The Pentagram got that message loud and clear. Do you hear them bragging about the missions ‘accomplishments’? That mission amounted to a $110m fart…and the US and NATO know it.

Ted

what ever you need to tell yourself to sleep better. rather it be 59, or 23 or even one, think of them as a punch to the face. But hey so they guy only hit me 23 times he threw 59 punches so I dont need to do a thing about it but write a letter. On top of that the missiles did a hell of a lot more then this letter. Turns out story today says Russia had no idea it was issued on their behalf. So again you tell yourself what you want, one sides throwing missiles the others trying to decide if they should write their name to the strongly worded letter.
I think there are some obvious conclusions, I dont think they sit well with many posters here so they choose to put their heads in the sand.

dutchnational

Generally speaking, red lines only work if you set them in advance and act if crossed.

Obama did not act and lost both face and influence.

Russia and allies did not act and will lose both.

Btw : what was the red line? Not to retaliate against gasattacks?

Antikapitalista

Well, there were red lines set by international law and Obama was poised to cross them.