Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

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chip

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Re: confused about transposing from treble clef to bass clef

Date:

Sun, 16 Nov 2008 12:23:54 -0700

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Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925)

Amazing how this whole conversation got so blown apart. Anyway, In one
other post Graham you mention you probably shouldn't have used the word
'bloody' with someone who doesn't know you, and you're probably correct.
I took it as a English version of f**** we Americans probably would've
used. Therefore I didn't take it so lightly. So now that's done and over
with, we move on.

Now I am looking through the 2.11 docs and searching (using my browsers
Find function) for Syntax and File Syntax and finding lots of entries
for Syntax but not File Syntax. At any rate, so far I am unable to find
an example that shows how to properly lay out a .ly song. I'm guessing
something like this -

That may or may not be correct, but based on the examples I've seen
it appears to be correct. But based on the way the forum posts have gone
there must be something wrong with it, but what? That's part of what I
haven't been able to find in any of the docs.
My original question was about the transpose option and the reply
from Jonathan was probably accurate and usable, but I didn't know where,
in the above layout, to put the \transpose bit. I tried it in many
places and got errors. It wasn't until you pointed me to the docs
section and I clicked on the picture to view the underlying code that I
found the location to place the \transpose code. Again, it appears that
this info could have been placed in the manual, maybe the Learning
Manual, in the textual portion, not just hidden behind the example
picture. Then it would be easy to find, shown in a printed textual
example, with the staff example as well.
As a noob to Lilypond I find delving through the Learning Manual,
the Notation Reference, Examples and Snippets Library a daunting task,
to try to figure out something that turned out to be so simple. It
appears to me that these documents are not written for the complete noob
like me, but for someone who already has a clue.
Oh, another example - changing the default style of multimeasure
rests - that too took a lot of digging to find the answer to, when it
could have been explained in simple text in the Learning Manual. And the
information on changing the time signature from C to 4/4, etc, was also
a time consuming search through several manuals. Seems to me these are
basics that should be in the Learning Manual, explained in plain text.

For example (first section direct from the Learning Manual):
----------------
Time signature
Music Glossary: time signature.
The time signature can be set with the \time command:
\relative c'' {
\time 3/4
a4 a a
\time 6/8
a4. a
\time 4/4
a4 a a a
}
And one can use this command:
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()

to change the default style of the time signature to always show the
fraction style time signature. As in this example:

There are going to be noobs out here who will ask completely inane
or simple questions, to you guys the answers to which will seem to be
obvious and easy to find, but that's because you know the lingo and the
manuals inside-out. We don't know the right words or the correct way to
look for the answers. Until I started using Lilypond I'd never seen the
word grob or glob or whatever it is, and don't know what it is,
therefore I wouldn't know how to ask a question that might refer to one.
Well I suppose enough for now, I hope the examples help shed some
light on the situation. I've been able to find pretty much everything
needed so far by digging around in the manuals, but it does take a lot
of digging.