LCPS is Loudoun County’s largest employer. That is just plain scary. This means the single largest “product” of Loudoun County is the student population. Our productivity goes toward what cannot pay for itself (education needs other income as the source for the money to pay for it). It is no wonder that taxes are high in order to support such a structure. Not only that, but if LCPS is the largest employer, the rest of the county employees must make Loudoun even more government heavy. Government jobs need productive jobs (real productivity jobs, not service jobs) to support them. What industry does Loudoun provide?

We must attract and keep industry to Loudoun. Didn’t anybody study macro economics in school? What do we teach these adults in college these days!

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How does this stack up against neighboring counties or counties of similar size in this area?

I’d like to know the percentage too, if you have it Brian.

Written by HFTB about 7 years ago.

If LCPS is the largest employer, then I would say that is a good indication they are overstaffed. Scott York presented a chart at one of the budget meetings that showed the employee to student ratio rose from about 120/1,000 to 150/1,000 during the housing boom spending binge. That’s something like 6.5 employees per student. Ridiculous!

So spending more on public schools is suppose to attract more industry?

Brian:
We have beating this drum for some time. They refuse to take a macro view, They refuse to link the speed bumps, barriers that they place before business as a key cause for their own fiscal distress.

I would think small classrooms would be good, but of LCPS has 6.5 students/employee, a lot of those are beyond the classroom. In a school of 1200, you are going to need some additional staff beyond instructional staff, custodians, Principle, A.P., guidance councilors, a nurse, resource officer (cop), a couple of secretaries, maybe 25? If the average class size is 23, that would give you about 15 -16 per student. Having twice the number of support staff as what you have instructional staff seems like overkill to me.

Written by Lovettsville Lady about 7 years ago.

Yes, the school system is way over loaded with administrative staff. It’s top heavy with way more support/administrative staff that actually teachers in the classroom. It’s not teachers who need to go, it’s staff! But why would they do that? Staff controls the hiring and firing so of course they are going to increase their own numbers, and their own pay, at the expense of everyone else, including teachers and students.

Does anyone know how many teachers in the classroom employed by LCPS and how many administrative staff? I bet those numbers are deeply buried and nearly impossible to find. But if it’s similar to FCPS, there are at least twice as many administrators as there are teachers. Makes NO sense. What business would run like that? With twice as much support staff as actual workers?

Cmac, take a drive eastward on the Toll Road. All those huge office buildings are in Fairfax County. Drive through Tysons, Seven Corners, Baileys Crossroads, not to mention the Edsall Road portion of Alexandria and all of Springfield. Lots and lots of businesses. I don’t have figures, but I would say Fairfax is collecting much, much more tax revenue from businesses than we are.

Written by Cathymac about 7 years ago.

Joe, Yes, I know that. I was asking how LCPS compares to FCPS in terms of % of school employees to the whole. And what % is the LCPS of LC?

Written by Leej about 7 years ago.

Joe I have been talking about this for years. Many people are probably sick if hearing me repeat my self. But I found repetition works and our BOS do read all these blogs. First we only have two develop-able metros. 606 and ashburn. The third is the airport station. And another at rt 28 is in fairfax. And at that station the developer that has property in loudoun near that station is in a big lawsuit and may not build. The 606 station Miller wanted to give 20 to 40 million of taxpayer money to help his developer buddy. And the ashburn station has data center blight right up to the front door of this station with more data to come. Rt 28 our major corridor needs to be re zoned and yes residential has to be part of the equation or these developments or they will be dead on arrival.
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That is what is in tysons and downtown reston. Miller and many on our BOS like McG does not have a clue about housing as they and the bos approved the increase in density of of Fairfield a kid magnet designed housing and what do we get two traffic choking lights and a widen road to nowhere. Instead of extending shellhorn from curving waxpool into shellhorn to extending shellhorn to the half used $30 million rt 28 interchange instead of dumping all this traffic into 606. I have talked about Kincora a ton, but it is the next major development to come up before the BOS and our PC is looking at it as we speak. The developer plans up front two vital road connections and a huge green space and land for a theater and arts center. Everyone is worried about the financing of this project. well set it up to protect us residents and if they go broke, so what, it will just change hands and continue. It is not the business of our PC and bos to worry about a developers financing as long as the public is protected. By the way the dulles town center is financed the same way.

Tysons is going thru a complete makeover that it will make it the center piece of fairfax and become the premier city non city in the USA. What is Loudoun doing junking up prime land with data and industrial which Kincora will become if not approved and we can visually see right now how data has trashed the front door of the ashburn mtero. Tysons is going the opposite direction. And when done tysons will visually look far nicer then loudoun. Hey I am not against data and industrial but build them on 606 or design them and hide them totally.

Leesburg villge is a prime example of a small mix use already built and filling up fast and has urban housing and a new bridge over rt 7. Below should be repeated over and over and hopefully our PC and BOS gets it as tysons and reston town center certainly do And mixed use without URBAN housing is dead on arrival. No life just dead as a door knob. It worked with the hospital my saying “”””” hospital care for the many before double hospital care for the few.”””””””””” I know my hospital saying worked by the amount of email I got from the pro hospital people who wanted to shut me up. ha ha ha, guess what, thank god they lost and many more people in Loudoun will have hospital care instead of what the selfish pro hospital people wanted. Johnny Cochran got a very famous murder off with his saying which he repeated over and over. “”””””” if the glove does not fit you must acquit””””””””

I have used simple sayings in court over and over where the Judge in his decision actually would repeat those sayings in his decision in my favor. Ok we need ED in this county to offset the school system that is gobbling up money faster then it can be printed. And we will not get the ED we need the way we are destroying this county with misplaced development and a horrible transportation system

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