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Monday, July 2, 2007

The battle is about to begin. An anonymous poster here along with an anonymous emailer point us to this video:

As you can see from the video, Sean McCarthy is wearing a custom Steorn "CEO vs CoE" t-shirt, in front of some building smoking a cigarette. While the author of the video could have done a better job at showing us that they are actually at the Kinetica Museum in London, I'm sure someone here can verify the building.

**********************************James said... "I'm pretty sure you have to be one sad sack of shite to wait around and videotape someone outside of a building in Dublin and claim it was taken in London." **********************************

And the corollary is that you have to be a liar to pretend it was taken in Dublin when you knew it wasn't.

Yes, the orange shades right at the beginning are identical to the one in the Spitalfields pic posted by Steorn tracker above, ie: http://golondon.about.com//od/londonpictures/ig/Spitalfields-Market/SpitalfieldsOct06-5.htm

It's 5th to 13th, its nine days, but ten if you include Sean showing the press on Wednesday 4th (press day) and the possibility that once they have left the big glass fishtank you might be able to get a sneak peak (or maybe not) and it is on Kinetica's website.

Yesterday evening they had hardly done anything, the floor was bare and there were a few boxes scattered around and some blue Orbo brochures in sight. That means today they are going to be working hard to get things set up, ship shape and Bristol fashion.

How many members of the press turn up is anyone's guess but there is a danger, having left it so late, that they'll get very little press coverage. Depends what else is on the wires tomorrow.

I will of course be wearing my "FLD vs Gravity" t-shirt while I attempt to fly, completely unaided, off the top of a block of flats later.--------------------------Hey show up wearing something that identifies your handle and I'm sure you will be flying off the top of a block quicker than you'd expect. Cowardly fook.

"Hey show up wearing something that identifies your handle and I'm sure you will be flying off the top of a block quicker than you'd expect. Cowardly fook."----Are you are threatening me with violence on an internet forum? Bit sad that really.

Judging by your MySpace entry you barely look capable of supporting your own weight, let alone chucking people off buildings.

Good find James!So who's going to be there???? I am hoping to see TONS of photographs and movies too, if possible. < hint, hint >

I'll let you know, I frankly cannot see how it is possible, but I have no arrogance regarding my understanding of how the universe works. If I was in London I would definitely give these guys a good hearing. Yes, they may be crooks but they are hanging it all out on the line, and no "poor" people appear to have been victimized, at least.

It's exciting; but then again, I've never run into a serious "overunity" claimant before.

Lastly, anybody else notice the second "Friday the 13th" date here? First was April the 13th, now it is July the 13th.

What's the deal with this video? It appears to have artificially introduced 'film jumps'. It is too high a quality for a phone shot. Viral marketing? I doubt it - it makes Sean look shifty! Get out clause? 'We were being hounded by unauthorised film makers so we withdrew the actual machine'Doesn't seem right either. Bizarre.

I would hope everyone would calm down and stop wasting space by trading insults.

The fact is that significant production of "free" energy is quite easy to prove if it exists. Let's wait and see if Steorn really exhibits at Kinetica tomorrow, and whether what they exhibit is convincing.

Surely (Shirley) everyone can wait a day or two more without flying off the handle? There will probably be plenty of meaningful things to argue about when the presentation is available -- if it is.

Meanwhile, I'd like to suggest a benchmark that Steorn has to surpass-- the Finsrud device.

I have no idea what that "effect" is, but it doesn't look ANYTHING like any of the "film effects". Looks more like miniDV/CD/DVD data transfer error, but if that was a phone camera.... I guess a simple camera malfunction.

"Dr Mike is under NDA, so he can't say anything about the Steorn tech, or his methods of testing, unless to someone else under a similar NDA. "

I don't think that's true. He can't reveal trade secrets told to him in confidence. He already has discussed his testing methods (magnetometers and accelerometers coupled to a laptop computer).

I can see no reason why he can't report in meticulous detail on what the public can obviously see thursday (if it happens). And he is certainly free to give an opinion on whether overunity has been demonstrated or not, and, again excepting trade secrets, he should be free to say why he thinks so and present evidence.

An NDA refers to specific secrets-- it's not a total muzzle.

Anyway, if Steorn shows a convincing demo of overunity, nobody will give a rat's testicle about NDA's.

The main giveaway that the video is staged is the attempt to make it look like the videographer was panning across and just happened to come across Sean, as if to imply "gee, look who I happen to have found here." No way. He knew Sean was there before he started recording, and the accidental-on-purpose discovery of Sean is downright insulting.

Well, to be fair, if I made a video zoomed out like that I would not have necessarily started out zoomed right in on the right guy; I probably would have started up the camera and panned around a little searching for the right target myself. It depends on the camcorder and eyepiece. The flicker effect is phoney, that part is for sure.

Actually I would have gone over and said "Hi Sean! What's up??" on camera. Who cares what he thinks, what's he gonna do, bop me in the nose? I also would have banged on the glass of Kinetica and said "smile guys! Hey what the heck!" stuff like that. Heck everybody films differently. Some people like video effects, I personally don't. I also don't post video onto You Tube. We're all different, that doesn't necessarily "prove" something is fake or not.

I also would have panned over the museum name or the street name or something just to definitively prove the location; but, that's just me. Some people are not so smart :)

You try filming someone with a zoom lens and capturing them straight away! You have to pan along to find people. The video is real, the videographer has nothing to do with Steorn, but simply put two and two together and worked out that Kinetica was the logical location, (no way would any mainstream museum associate itself with Steorn) and 4th was a logical start date, meaning set up had to be 2nd and 3rd. Simple enough to scope the place out and catch McCarthy on a smoking break.

What is interesting is to watch your pathetic little conspiracy theories develop as opposed to accepting something at its most obvious face value. Next theory will be that Sherlock is a plant of Big Oil.

It shows one that REGARDLESS of what happens this week, some of you will be unconvinced and some of you will be 100% sold on Orbo.

I also would have panned over the museum name or the street name or something just to definitively prove the location; but, that's just me. Some people are not so smart :)

I thought it would be more fun to watch you gossip like a Woman's Circle and coming up with all sorts of wacky conspiracies, suggestions of viral marketing and complaints about privacy.

If Steorn are that great at marketing then over the next few days we'll see the world's press pay attention. Personally I think they've made a serious error of judgement and will get four-fifths of f'all in terms of press coverage. But we'll see...

Stand on Crispin Street yourself facing Brushfield Street and you'll see exact where the video was filmed.

Um, it was actually *ME* who filmed the piece? Not *you* Mr. Anonymous?

Sheesh!!

< grin >

PS I also already proved Steorn's claims, oh and I made a 1 W / cubic cm version already too, in fact it's powering my desktop computer right now (since my power supply crapped out awhile ago, I figgered what the hey). Mine hits 5,000 rpm as well.

The main giveaway that the video is staged is the attempt to make it look like the videographer was panning across and just happened to come across Sean, as if to imply "gee, look who I happen to have found here." No way. He knew Sean was there before he started recording, and the accidental-on-purpose discovery of Sean is downright insulting.

Well, duh! Of course he knew Sean was there before he started recording. He was waiting for Sean to come out and have a ciggie break. And when he settled down in one place to have a smoke, he started recording. What's so difficult to grasp about that?

Once again - the "rolling effect" at the end is artificial, presumably added to enhance the "underground" nature of the video. Real dropouts on DV or Digital 8 tape due to head wear/clogging or damaged tape look and sound nothing like this.

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