The NHL and NHLPA ended their talks on Friday without scheduling another meeting. It looks like talks have stalled, but Chris Phillips, who is part of the union’s negotiating committee, still thinks a lockout can be avoided.

“We’re moving in the same direction, which is good,” said Phillips. “I’m hopeful. We’ll see how things progress. We’re starting to speak the same language and that makes things a lot easier to come to an agreement.”