Fire Baptized Holiness Church Of God Of The Americas Has Gone Broke–Members Want Bishop Patrick Frazier Out Due To Bankrupting The Church!!!

Everything Is Going Down, But The Word Of God…According to a former pastor in the Fire Baptized Holiness Church of God of the Americas some major things are going on that would cause more people to burn in the fiery pits of Hell rather than catch on fire with the Holy Ghost. A concerned person has reached out to Obnoxious Media to shed light on many of the alleged ills in the organization. So me of the Ruling Elders have a history of having children outside the marriage, bribery, hush money to keep individuals mouths closed, and allegedly the Presiding Bishop has taken a good bit of the money to fatten his own personal pockets.
The word is that a former female pastor in Kannapolis, North Carolina cleared the bank account of church just before she was removed as the pastor. Members still have not been able to recover the funds and the Bishop is said to have done nothing to help the congregation nor has the former pastor received any discipline other than having been removed from the North Carolina church.

The National Church is headquartered in Greenville, South Carolina and has a school but they are barely reaching their operational budget on a monthly basis. The entire organization is said to be down to only $5,000 in the bank. No one knows what happen to the $23 million that was said to be in the national church’s account prior to the death of the Presiding Bishop William E. Fuller, Jr., who died in 2007. Fuller lead Fire Baptized from 1958 to his death 2007 and Bishop Patrick L. Frazier, Jr. was elected at the General Council.

Members of Fire Baptized seem to be very displeased with their Presiding Bishop Patrick L. Frazier, Jr. and his leadership or I should say the lack thereof due to his appointment of family members to several key positions to ensure his re-election at Fire Baptized General Council in 2014. Fire Baptized good snitches say that Frazier is killing the organization and they are afraid they will soon die out all together if he is not removed from office. At one time the church boasted of having over 1500 churches worldwide to now just 160 and it might be less that at the time of this post. Obnoxious Media reached out to Crystal Parks Lewis, who grew up in the organization and family members are in leadership, confirmed Fire Baptized is in serious trouble!

Read an e-mail sent to me by one a Fire Baptized insider below:

Good Morning Mr. McCray

I am a former member of the Fire Baptized Holiness Church of God of the Americas, and if I can quote you for a second “Everything is going down except the word of God”.

There are Ruling Elders who are sleeping with their Secretaries, Pastors who are having children outside of their marriage, bribery, hush money being passed around and of course a mismanagement of funds.

A former Pastor in Kannapolis, North Carolina withdrew money out of the local church bank after she was removed from the Pastorate of her church.

They operate a school in Greenville, SC on the headquarters property and they barely have enough money to pay the staff after having conventions in May, June, July, and August they are reported as having only $5,000.00 in the bank. The members want to know where is the money is going and no one is answering.

In 2007, their beloved Presiding Bishop, Bishop William E. Fuller, Jr., who presiding over the organization since 1958 went home to be with the Lord left the church in a great financial condition with having more that 23 million dollars in the bank.

The current Presiding Bishop, Bishop Patrick L. Frazier, Jr. Has been placing his family members in some key positions so he can be re-elected in the 2014 General Council. Promises has been made but none have kept, what once was a growing organization numbering well over 1500 churches and missions has dwindled down to 160 congregations.

I tell you church folks are showing their tails! Ego,pride,arrogance going unchecked with all this money is certainly going to end in disaster. Folks been stealing from black folks for generations starting with some(not all)the preachers! You don’t need to pay,sow or contribute for a Word from God it’s free! When the preacher moves into a multi million home,drives a Bentley,1st lady dripped in diamonds AND his chirren are on staff too reaping the same benefits…..People they stealing yo money all while yo little June bug needs new shows and has no lunch money.I used to attend The Potters House for years but all that pomp and circumstance,promoting only the Jakes family books,cd’s,etc….showed me sumthin I didn’t want to believe “it’s all about the money”.There are thousands in that church that helped to build that Vision yet you can’t get the church to even announce or promote anyone if their last name ain’t Jakes…..I ain’t hating just being truthful…….I pray we stop letting these folks stop fooling us and use your money for real good….You and Lil June bug😜

Well said @Eyes of Tx concerning all of the stuff going on in the church. Never visited Potter’s House but have been a member of another church in NYC that only promoted the Pastor and his family or those who had wealth. Sad days…
By the way, never heard of this sect or order or fellowship, i.e. Fire Baptized Holiness Church

Thanks Michelle! Yep waaaaay too much money changing going on! I’ve learned lots from Bishop Jakes teaching and the level of “eerbody wanna be a star” it seems he used to condemn.Plus many that helped these ministries when they go through hardship the ministry says “sorry we can’t help eerbody”…yet they sure help their own family! I’ve never heard of this cult…ooops I meant order either! No accountability anywhere,any more. Plus all the scandals in these churches and ministries is just ridiculous! I say make EM all pay taxes on those millions they take in and then they can do and say whatever the heck they want! They do it anyway we just don’t get the taxes! I saw the budget from a mega ministry and bout near threw up! Dang shame thousands they spend on bishop&1st lady tailor made clothes, hair make up,pay all the car,house,insurance,credit cards,etc…all paid by the church AND they still get a salary😳

The church of my childhood…my father was a FBH pastor. Bishops W. E. Fuller, Sr. & Jr. spent many nights in my parents home. I left this organization at age 17 after my dad died when I was 15 & the church of my childhood left the organization upon the death of my mother in 1997. This article does NOT surprise me at all.

They have been dying for years….long before Bishop Fuller died in ’07. They may not have been broke but they had dwindled phenomenally…the old heads have died out; my age group left decades ago to greener pastures either by going to another organization such as COGIC or became independent; and even, my children’s generation have moved on.

FBH (Fire Baptised Holiness Church) is just old school COGIC with no make up and jewelry and no movies and no pants on women. They stressed being baptised with the Fire of the Holy GHost which burns up everything thats not like God in your life and caused you to want to live a holy and sanctified lifestyle, seperation from all worldly living, and is a trinitarian organization (not oneness like the Apostolic Church).

Thanks @LightSkinBruh – this kind of reminds me of one of those Apostolic churches I used to see. They subscribe to the same thought in terms of no jewelry, pants for women, make, etc. Oddly enough, their kids used to be the ones pregnant before marriage…go figure!

I have been a member of this FBH Church all my life and have never been so ashamed to hear the things that is going on here. I can not say if the allegations are true or are false, but I pray none of this is true.

It’s stories like this that sets me in agreement with Senator Grassley (I think that was his name) who wanted to investigate the mega churches a few years ago. They aren’t paying taxes and can appropriate (misappropriate) funds as they choose. They come up with all kinds of organizations and or programs to get donations. Then they put a family member or a friend over it and give them a ginormous salary. It’s just corruption on top of corruption and they get away with it by spouting a few scriptures that will bind people and make them fearful to challenge the powers that be. How did this church go through or lose $23 million dollars? Better still, how did they generate $23 million dollars? Geesh!

Sen Grassly started the investigaion , but got cold feet. He never made Creflo and Copeland turn over documents. He should have turned the investigation over to the IRS that had enforcement power. the Senate Finance Committee didn’t have or refused to use their enforcement power. I am confident that one day they will revisit that investigation and even broaden it.
All churches should be required to file Form 990 with the IRS as other non-profits are required to do.

Senator Grassley had no intentions of doing anything. If you go back and read the articles you’ll find out that he was just following up on complaints that members of those churches had with leadership and the finances.

So his intentions from the beginning was only to investigate claims. That;s why there was no enforcement on the allegations and findings; the few that were found.

ANOTHER FBH CHURCH HAS GONE BISHOP FRAZIER AND ROBERT SHACKLEFORD HAS KILLED ANOTHER CHURCH A FBH CHURCH IN PENDLETON HAS GONE MEMBERS WALKED OUT BECAUSE OF THE SUSPENION OF THE PASTOR OF A FALSE INFOMATION THEY SAY THE ELDER WANTED THE PASTOR GONE SO HE CAN GET THE CHURCH 4 MEMBERS LEFT SHAME SHAME SHAME THESE PEOPLE GOING TO HELL IN A HELL BASKET.

It is amazing to me that the writer of this blog was a former pastor. Did anyone ever think about why they are now only a former pastor. By the way, I know the former pastor in Kannapolis. She is a dynamite preacher and prophet. She almost singlehandedly resurrected that church from nothing; both spiritually and financially. It is a very small congregation of new comers and I am sure not much money was available. So sad that people try to discredit ones character like that. I feel sorry for whoever initiated this….

Its Amazing the things people will say. This has to be the funniest post ever. Grow UP People. People don’t even know what they talking about. – RED FLAGS ARE: “FORMER PASTOR” they will say anything – HE probably mad because HE didn’t get a position they wanted in the church or a position HE FELT HE deserved.

ANOTHER RED FLAG: “CRYSTAL PARK LEWIS” she not even a member why reach out to her she has nothing to do with the church SHE CAN’T CONFIRM ANYTHING!! smh

Well I am praying for whoever wrote this Obnixious Post. Obviously you need some Mind Your Business Tips so let me give you 5 Points.

1. Try not to butt in. – Some people might have no trouble minding their own business and could care less about what you’re doing or talking about. But others can’t help it. It’s just natural for them to butt in on everything.

2. Ask yourself why you are butting in – Before you go interrupt someone, ask yourself: “Does this concern me?” If what they are doing is going to somehow affect you in anyway, then it does concern you. But if it’s just gossip or someone is going out with their friend, then it doesn’t concern you.

3. Walk Away instead of butting in If you figure out that it doesn’t concern you at all, then walk away. Don’t be near the person so you don’t even get a chance to butt in. If it does concern you, then you have a right to listen and interrupt.

4. Become oblivious and disinterested – Try to be the least interested in people as possible. Be oblivious to what goes on around others. If you feel the need to interrupt someone or find out what they are doing, think about it first. It’s just like the saying: “Think before you speak”.

5. If you do overhear something of note between two people, or a group of people, but the topic does not concern you or affect you in any way, then let the matter stay between the people it concerns.

If you are NOT a member please be about your business and stay out of ours. If you not here why is the FBH Church still on your mind, and you still Interested in what’s going on. Obviously you want to be back so just come on back – we will accept you with open arms . Much Love for you.

To Pastor B. Taylor the blogger never stated that a started this mess. He said he reached out to me. And, that is because he knew I was in the Fuller Family and he wanted to see if there was any validity to the email that was sent to him by the culprit of this mess. I told Mr. Obnoxious that the FBH church has dwindled down over the years but should not have any financial problems. I asked him who sent him the email and he told me. With that being said if anyone contacts me I will expose the culprit of the email. I will not do it on here because I told Mr. Obnoxious I wouldn’t reveal his source. Bottom line I’m not the method behind the madness. I can be reached at crystallewis333@yahoo.com

Not surprising. I grew up FBH. My mom pulled out of the church & organization when I was around 17 years old (I’m 29 now). And even then, the church had dwindled down to around 30 members. I’m sure the church probably has around 10 members now because most of them were older. The FBH Church is indeed dying. Most of the members nationwide are older, stuck in their ways, nasty and conniving. The powers-that-be ran most of the younger generation away. Lord save your church. Not any specific denomination, but your CHURCH!

Ok I am a CURRENT member of the FBH church. Not someone commenting on a quick read. Or a former member that left 15 yrs ago. I have several questions for the author. Before posting this, was there any attempt to contact Bishop Frazier, Bishop Davis or Bishop Rogers to get info on these claims? Did you contact any of the members of the church in Kannapolis that got “cleaned out?” Or the Kannapolis PD? Im not Perry Mason but that does sound like embezzlement. Couldnt you have found current member(s) of the movement to get they’re opinions instead of a former member? Did you contact the headquarters/school in Greenville? Just curious….. In case anyone is wondering FBH isnt a collection of mega churches. We dont have 5000 members at each church. Our bishops dont ride around in Bentleys or Rose Royces. There is nothing fancy about our churches. That image of an old country church with the mothers singing and shouting. The preaching “hootin” and folks falling out at the alter……..Thats us! Believe me in this day and age when times are tough and money is tight. If something was foul with the church’s money there would be more noise being made then a random blog.

Hi, my name is Tony. I live in Kannapolis, that old rock church only has 2 or 3 cars there when I pass by and all of them look raggedy. News flash, the entire town of Kannapolis has been broke since 2003 when Cannon Mill shut down. Leave that lady alone. I assure you there was nothing to embezzle. However, they can not be too broke with a brand new roof on it less than 3 weeks old.

There is only one FBH Church that remains in Kannapolis, NC to my knowledge. For years, they only had one member and she was about 100 years old. Embezzlement; not hardly. Even the larger scale churches in that town have financial issues. They have a big issue with preachers; especially women preachers. There has been issues with several churches in Kannapolis. they always blame the preacher. So sad, if you come to K-town, just know that it is a place that is filled with drama and mental illness. If the pastor was taken away from that God forsaken town, she is so better off. I feel sorry for anyone who tries to pastor in that town.

I am outraged by this blog. I am also outraged by this movement. I have visited that church numerous times. I saw personally how the former pastor pushed to raise monies with very little help. I was there recently to a conference that really blessed my soul. I am going to miss the former pastor. She was a great encouragement to me. I am glad she moved on to greener pastures. I was thinking about joining this church but not now. Why did the former LADY pastor not receive any help or assistance? Now, there is a man there and I see a great deal of help and assistance. So sad!!!!! I have visited revivals and the former pastor paid the entire offering! She deserved so much better. We did not even know what FBH was until she revived that raggedy bat infested church. As for the other movement issues, it sounds typical by the lack of support shown to this former pastor. The church was dilapidated and old. Tony, I did drive by there and see the new roof. Word on the street is that the new pastor is related to the Presiding Bishop and that they wanted to boot the former pastor out to give him a place to preach. I heard he told his congregation that he has been homeless and slept in cars. I am waiting tof the church to turn on him like they did the former pastor.

I am a current member of the Fire Baptized, and for your info,in this movement, the finance is to the discretion of the pastor. If she took all the money, someone had to give it to her. So is that stealing? Also, it is customary to drain the treasury prior to going to the convention. So. If that is the case, everyone should be brought in for charges. It is true that the bishop has set up his entire family. I live in Georgia and just found out that our newly appointed elder is the bishop’s brother in law. I did not know that the new pastor in Kannapolis was related to the bishop. if he can’t keep a home then how can he run God’s business? However, I am not leaving my church. There is mess everywhere.

I visited this church the other week. The pastor was playing the guitar and a member was preaching. Het got off the guitar and started trying to whoop behind her. A HOT MESS!!!! The bishop had to help him get in cause he would not have gotten in any other way. What I found very sad was that I visited the church the other month and they were treating the former pastor like a queen. Now they have this B.B. King looking non preaching rascal up on cloud nine like he is the heat. I am a member of First Baptist in Kannapolis, NC. They dogged out our last preacher the same way last year. You just got to know Kannapolis… The people (church people) are so fake!!!! Matter of fact, the lady that was preaching that sunday has been to jail herself. I just can not get over these fake hypocrites that switched on that pastor. I will not be visiting that church again. The former pastor prayed for my aunt and she got healed. I see the former pastor evangelizing and doing big things. If they got rid of her, they did her a favor. As for B.B. King and Lucille, I hope he got a good job cause KP will shut a preacher down quick. As for the other stuff, I do not have a clue. I will miss the former preacher, she was the bomb!!! Awesome,singing,and preaching machine!!!! Kannapolis was not ready, or big enough for her anyway!! Embezzelment, LOL! them rascals don’t even work!!!!! Word on the street is that she was taking care of them, loaning out money, and paying bills. I am related to some of them and I believe it!!!

YES KP WAS NOT READY FOR HER…SHE WAS/IS THE BOMB. I AM A FORMER MEMBER OF FBH BUT I HOLD IT DEAR TO MY HEART B/C IT IS MY ROOTS. EMBEZZLEMENT? REALLY? NOT SO…PEOPLE CAN BE SO TREACHEROUS. I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT SHE REVIVED THAT CHURCH. WHEN I WAS YOUNGER MY MOTHER AND I WOULD GO DOWN THERE AND HELP OUT IN THE SERVICES EVEN BEFORE SHE WAS THE PASTOR AND I REMEMBER MOTHER CANNON WHO DID ALL SHE COULD FOR THAT PLACE EVEN IN THE MIDST OF MANY PASTORS AND DWINDLING MEMBERSHIP. THE PREVIOUS PASTOR AGAIN I SAY REVIVED THE CHURCH AND I BID HER GODSPEED. IN FACT, I SAW HER IN THE CONVENTION AND SHE PREACHED A MIGHTY WORD. GOD DOES NOT AND WILL NOT ANOINT MESS! GLORY TO GOD!

NO WAY!!!!! THAT LADY NOT IN KANNAPOLIS NO MORE!!!!!!!!!! SHE WAS THE HARDEST PREACHING LADY I EVER HEARD. MY COUSIN ETHEL CANNON WAS THE 100 YEAR OLD LADY THAT WAS THERE WHEN SHE GOT THERE. SHE USED TO BRING HER COMMUNION AND VISIT HER ALMOST EVERY WEEK I WILL NEVER FORGET THE MESSAGE SHE PREACHED AT MY COUSIN’S FUNERAL; “THE MISSION IS POSSIBLE.” SHE ALSO PAID OUT $3,000 FOR ONE OF HER MEMBERS FUNERAL A FEW YEARS BACK. i KNOW THAT PERSONALLY BECAUSE i WORKED AT THE FUNERAL HOME AND WAS THERE WHEN SHE BROUGHT THE CHECK; AND IT WAS GOOD!!!

God had to remove “his servant” before he could exact punishment on a said person/group…this female preacher did according to God’s instructions to reveal ‘the seed(s) of corruption” and obeying him has allowed her to move on to the next “mission” to continue reaping the harvest…

The former pastor of the FBH Church in Kannapolis is my soror and former college classmate. I am totally done! I personally knew her struggle. She stuck with that lame church and organization in the midst of sickness and several personal tragedies. God speed to you Lady Zeta, you deserve so much better!

I hate to heard that the former pastor is gone. I do not believe she took no money because they did not give her a decent salary. Our church wanted her for a pastor but she proved loyal to FBH. If you have no pastorate; the offer still stands. You have so much to offer to the world!

Just let me start off by saying, I am not familiar with this organization; it’s bishops or its finances. But I was informed about this article by a fellow employee. One thing is apparent; they do not know Pastor C. I met her 5 years ago when she began volunteering at the Hospice House. If I know anything about her, she loves The Lord and she loved that church. She was an outstanding volunteer. She would come too the house many Sundays and would have to leave and go preach to her parishioners. This is a loss to the community of Kannapolis. I do not know her preaching capabilities but she is a wonderful humanitarian. I totally do not believe those allegations; they are totally false.God bless you in your future endeavors Pastor C.

All this mess on this blog on FBH CHURCHES it sounds like a lot of jealously and someone is mad. Some people needs to grow up and stop acting childish. IF you are not in the FBH movement leaves them alone and let them get on with their lives. If you are a former pastor of the FBH churches sounds like you want your church back.HA!HA!HA! Some of you former pastors need to pray and leave stuff alone. You got want you asked for so live your life and leave other people lives alone. Who ever is writing this stuff on here is very Miserable leave Kannapolis alone because everything is what you make of it and they is going to make the best out of the situation now. Some of you all need JESUS more than you think read his word and move on with your life. ONE MORE THING BEFORE I STOP WRITING YOU BY PUTTING STUFF ON THIS BLOG IS HURTING FBH CHURCHES. REALLY IT’S GOING TO MAKE IT BETTER. NOW WITH THAT BEEN SOUND SHOUT ON THAT. FBH IS GOING TO MOVE UP AND NOT BACK. FOR ALL FORMER PASTORS YOU PEOPLE OF THE CLOTH SO WHY LET PEOPLE COME ON HERE AND BASH CHURCHES. THAT IS NOT GOOD FOR EVERYONE THAT HAS DONE SOMETHING WRONG YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT.YOU ARE NOT HURTING NOBODY BUT YOURSELF.

Chocolate Thunder, yeah right.. Must be one of those fake hypocrites in Kannapolis. They always said that rock church was cursed. I thought the last pastor broke that mess off of there. Now they have accused the pastor in Pendleton SC of molestation. He will be alright though. The bishops son in law did the same thing in Gastonia ten years ago and the bishop set him up soon as he got out of jail. Then the boy left the church and started his own. Bishop Fuller Jr. Is cussing somebody out from his mausoleum right now…

This stuff must stop! No wonder the world is so corrupt! If y’all would get off this garbage and pray, maybe you can get somebody in these old raggedy empty churches. I am done with church. There was more peace in the streets!

If anyone talks to Bishop J.L. Davis, please tell him for me if he is still trying to shout about it now and talk about it later, this method is not workin sir. Sounds to me like somebody needs to start talking now….

I am writing this post in total sadness. First of all, it is sad that so much garbage is surfacing on the web. I want to encourage my Soror; Lady Zeta; the former pastor that you are so much better than what they are trying to paint you to be. You stuck with that church even amidst some very personal tragedies. I remember how you drained your 401K in order to pay church reports and bills for the church. The nerve of someone to accuse you of draining an account! If I were you, i would go on over to the Sounds of Praise Ministry! They receive your gift of prophecy. Those FBH people do not even believe in your gift. Be blessed and fly high white doveZOB.

Well, let me start by saying that this is terrible! How can so much stank be done underneath the auspicies of one organization? There has been a terrible breakdown in the leadership of this organization. Nonetheless, I say to the pastor who is accused of embezzlement; GET YOU A LAWYER AND SUE!!!!! CAN YOU SAY DEFAMATION OF CHARACTER, SLANDER AND LIBEL!!! This is Dr. Delange R. Withers of St. Louis, Mi. This pastor is an awesome evangelist and revivalist. If the FBH Church don’t want you, you know you have a place at Lighthouse Ministries International. Please contact us, you can come out here and be healed and taken care of. We love you Pastor C! Please get in touch with us!!! If anyone out there knows her,please inform her that Dr. Withers wants to speak to her…Call me!

OMG! Mt. Calvary was the ideal church. I loved the relationship they had; members and pastor! This is so unfortunate. What an awesome preacher, teacher, evangelist, singer, and prophetess! Regardless of the trap people set for her, she is destined for greatness!

I kind of feel sorry for the new pastor, because he has some big shoes to fill. the former pastor was a preaching BEAST! She was prophesying in a service one night and called out my cousin by his name! The word she told him was ON POINT! ACTUALLY, WHAT SHE TOLD HIM HAPPENED THAT SAME DAY!!!! THERE IS NO WAY SHE CAN WALK IN ERROR AND BE ON POINT LIKE THAT!

Is anyone going to the aide of that pastor? I have heard her story of the revitilization of that church. I went to a funeral of one of her former members. She preached a message entitled, “Safe at home!” I never told anyone publicly but that day, I accepted the Lord as my personal savior. I follow her on facebook and she is the epitome of a phenomenal woman. She has always talked so highly of her organization and how her grandmother put the love for the church in her which she spreaded. I hope she is being covered by her organization. Whoever gets her as a pastor, will have something special!!!

AN ELDER FROM THE FBH FROM GREENVILLE WHO HAS A BABY IN CHARLESTON AND WHO IS A MARRIED MAN SIT A PASTORN DOWN OFF A HEAR SAY AND HE GOT A TRACK BEHIND HIM HE STOLE MONEY FROM GEORGETOWN GASTON AND THEN BISHOP FRAZIER MADE HIM A ELDER AND THEN HE MADE A PASS AT BISHOP FRAZIER DAUGHTER AND BISHOP FRAZIER DID NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT MY GOD NOWONDER PEOPLE DONT GO TO CHURCH.

My elder just came around on his rounds. Now they want every FBH Member to make a monthly contribution on top of their tithes, offerings, church reports, and etc. I feel like I am dealing with a loan company!

Just heard of this blog and want to say, we love you Pastor Carmen. We know your struggle has been hard but now you are free. We at Judah Tabernacle of Praise are in your corner. Please contact us! We heard about the terrible things that took place and how you had to flee Kannapolis. We also heard about the threats. Please contact us, we avail ourselves to you. Please contact Marie our secretary. Whatever you need; we are here for you. You can find refuge here POWERFUL WOMAN OF GOD!

This organization has always been a mess. They put the women in places of struggle and let sorry non working men get the good churches. They have respect of person and focus more on earrings and make up than the soul of people. Bishop Davis had started another church himself until Bishop Roach mentioned about him being assistant to the bishops. Then he dropped that church like a hot potato to pursue a chance at being the bishop. Then he ran up a big bill at New Zion and never paid it! then he was elevated! The sad thing is that he helped conspire to get Bishop Roach out of the chair. actually, they killed Bishop Roach by breaking his heart. So much junk! All the dirt is coming out!

I have sat back and read the comments about this post. Folk for a long time have come up against the church because they don’t like something as a current member of this church I must say that this is something that is shocking that it would appear out in open like this. As long as I can remember there was stuff going always something going on in this FBH church sometimes we knew about it sometimes we didn’t know about it. Did we complain? Yes!! Did we voice our opinion? Yes was the issue resolved? Not in the way we wanted but it was handled.

At one point another former pastor questioned about where the money was going if you go down to Greenville, SC you will see where the money went we are the only organization outside of COGIC that I know of that has a headquarters campus. But we are probably the only organization who operates a school with the money raised in our churches and conventions to go towards the upkeep of the school.

Now the allegations of this blog can be two things either true or false. If it is true then that is something that needs to be handled between the three Bishops and the Elders not by a blog. Some have even threatened to leave this FBH church. Now out of the 114 many people have left because they were upset about something in the church.

Many people have left and moved on to other things some ended up doing good and some have not. But let me ask this question if you get upset about what’s going on at your job will you leave? If you are upset about what happening in your city will you pack up and leave? But as soon as something is not right in the church you are ready to leave.

All churches are not the same Full Gospel Baptist, COGIC, Bible Way, Pentecostal Assembly of the World, Progrssive National Baptist, Southern Baptist, National Baptist they all have issues, small church, medium church, large church, mega church all have issues. Leaving the church is not going to solve the problem but praying for the church, supporting your church, talking to your leaders will.

I was reading my discipline the other day true at one point we did have a great amount of money in our treasurer, but also a lot has been done in our church that cost money, storms have popped up a lot of church made reneovations that has cost us money. Was it a mismanagement I don’t think so I see that as a National Church helping a local church or churches we built a charter school on our grounds that cost money to build and to operate.

I don’t know the issue in Kannapolis but I do know the Pastor. Very anointed, powerful woman of God. But I don’t know nore do I care to know what went on in her local church that is not my business.

Love this Fire Baptized Holiness Church of God of the Americas and many of us do and we want to see it move forward. Stop this hate towards each other because the very people that you speak against maybe the very same ones that preach your funeral. This FBH church has done a lot for people in 114 years but people leave and talk bad about when they were saved, sanctified, filled with the holy ghost, appointed to leadership positions and served greatly.

Well it is no secret that Elder Powell wanted the pastor from Kannapolis removed. The new pastor in Kannapolis even told the congregation that this was in the works for two years. I am a member of Mt. Zion and some money is missing here in Charlotte that is under investigation. They won’t remove Powell but we are sick of him. His son is the pastor and elder.

The bible says, touch not mine anointed and do my prophet no harm. Somebody is gonna pay for this. The former pastor is a true prophet. She encouraged me not to leave Zion. We miss you on South Central regardless of what the elder said.

i am a member of the fbh church i have been on the finance commitee every year each bishop gets 65000.00 a year plus they money out of every convention plus in the sunday school convention and they have the same people on the committee the sunday school convention suppose to be for the school but they split that money among there self in the annual convention they split that money and then they make there rounds and they get 300000 for that ypi they get that money so that is why the church is broke all going to the bishop. MOST OF IT TO FRAZIER SO HIM AND HIS WIFE CAN LAY UP ON THE BEACH WITH OUR MONEY PEOPLE HAVE LET THERE FAMILY GO TO PAY MONEY IN THIS MOVEMENT THEY THOUGHT FOR A GOOD CAUSE BUT TO THE BISHOPS AND ELDERS PUT IT IN THERE POCKETS BUT A DAY WILL SURLY COME THEY GOT TO STAND BEFORE GOD AND GIVE IN ACCOUNT THEY CANT PAY THEY WAY OUT OF THIS.

THIS IS INTERESTING TO KNOW B/C I HEARD ONE OF THE BISHOPS SAY THAT HE HAS NEVER BEEN ON VACATION. THE BIBLE SAYS TO MUZZLE NOT THE OX THAT TREADETH OUT THE CORN….SO WAGES ARE IN ORDER FOR THE PASTORS, BISHOPS ETC. IN GENERAL, SOME PASTORS ABUSE MONEY, SOME DON’T. HOWEVER, GOD IS THE JUDGE! I’M A FORMER MEMBER OF FBH AND LOVE IT DEARLY. CAN I ASK YOU WHY YOU ARE PUTTING THIS ON HERE? I DON’T MEAN TO BE OFFENSIVE OR MEAN…JUST ASKING SINCE YOU ARE A CURRENT MEMBER.

As for the former pastor in Kannapolis, why is she only running revivals in the Sounds of Praise organization? Where is the FBH support for her? Someone who was born and raised in that movement. If these are the blessings of faithfulness then …………..

The funny part about all of this, is that everyone is focused on the Pastor in Kannapolis (Which by the way SHE IS DOING GREATER THINGS WITH HER MINISTRY SO THEY ACTUALLY DID HER A BIGGGGGGGGGGGG FAVOR) but NOT worried about where the money is at! The head bishop (Bishop Frazier) needs to have a general meeting with the general church in Greenville at the headquarters because he indeed have ALOT of explaining to do. And for all you deep “I’m so FBH to the bone, I don’t believe none of this true” get over yourselves. All this post did was just CONFIRMED everything that we ALREADY knew. So just suck it up, own up to it, and accept it. This is a hot mess and they better pray that it will still be a FBH movement after all of this is over with.

and word on the street is that Bishop Frazier has his lil snitches out, making lists and what not! This is a TOTAL MESS!

All I can say is in the Antioch School, you all encouraged us to think outside the box and question the answers. On my district for a while we met every week. So here is a Socratic discussion for you. The sad thing is that y’all did not know that this would bite you in the behind. A lot of issues have not been dealt with appropriately, now it is on front street for the world to see. That 65k, plus honorariums, plus convention love offerings, plus annual rounds ain’t worth all the hassle. You all better get it while you can.

By the way, since we airing out all the dirty laundry. Why do they have Billy Fuller, the heir to the Fuller family dumping the trash in Greenville? He should have some type of honor at least for legacy sake.

Children are being killed while sitting in school. People are being killed in malls and movie theaters. The government, on all levels, can’t get it together. People’s personal info is being hacked and stolen. The internet is full of videos and articles talking about how God and Jesus ain’t real. Or how Jesus was just some guy and didn’t do what the bible said he did. The things that were foretold in Revelations are happening or being set up to take place. Instead of playing kick the can with the FBH church, how bout everybody pray. Current members if you ain’t happy with what’s supposedly going on, leave! Former members, you’ve already left so why talk junk? You should be focused on the church you at now. Every church has their problems. And every person that goes to them has their skeletons. Whether they in the closet, under the bed or supposedly buried deep. I dont know if all this is true or not. The line between truth and lie and right and wrong is getting erased more and more each day. One thing I do know is that one day we all gonna give an account. And God’s punishment is far worse then anything you and I could ever do to those doing wrong. I’m not gonna hide behind an internet user name……..I am Michael Moss and I approve this message!!!!

Thanks for getting up with the pastor, y’all FBH’ers sure know how to network. The bad thing is that there is no better way of venting and resolving issues. One thing for sure, you all can definitely have church. You have produced some of the world’s greatest preachers and we just booked one.

What is sad to me is that everybody is defending all of the preachers/prophets, but no one is saying anything in defense of the bishops/elders. THAT SAYS A WHOLE LOT TO THE WORLD!!! Well, when we can not trust you to defend and cover us properly, this is what to expect……..

UH CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG BUT ABOUT 90% OF ALL CHURCHES EMPTY OUT THEIR TREASURERS PRIOR TO GOING TO THE CONVENTION. WHEN THE MAJORITY OF YOUR CHURCHES ONLY HAVE 7-10 MEMBERS AND THEY ARE OLD AS METHUSELAH, YOU HAVE TO PULL YOUR RESOURCES TOGETHER SO WE CAN PAY OUR LOANSHARKS……

I just heard today that there was a Christmas play at Fuller Normal and they charged a $5.00 cover at the door to pay the light bill. Tell me why are all of the Fuller Normal Payroll checks bouncing. Everyday I go across town and look at the New Legacy School and how it is advancing…. All we have is a few dilapidated trailers and some old buildings.

I remember this organization! Do y’all still move pastors around? Where is Rev. Alonzo Rodgers now? I loved him when he was in Charlotte! Things just seemed to go DOWN after he left. I remember when his cousin Arnetta directed the choir. That church used to be thumping; USED TO BE!

How are things in Kannapolis? I just have one question. How can you send someone out to pastor who is not faithful, can’t keep a house, and is unstable? He dropped out of Ministers classes and was not even an ordained minister? The elder overlooked many qualified ministers to put a novice in office. That really is not fair to the new pastor?

OMG – I am gonna defend the one’s who are talking positive! Its amazing the one’s that are talking and doing all this STUPID TALK call they selves Christians. Yall need to go back to the alter. “YE WITHOUT SIN – CAST THE FIRST STONE” I don’t think NONE OF YALL CAN PUT OUT THE FIRST STONE…now that’s the Sad Part!

SO NEEDLESS TO SAY – YES I WILL SAY IT – YOU SHUT UP YOU FAKE HYPOCRITS. Mind your Business. If you want to LEAVE – then Leave. Former Members – YOU SHOULD HAVE BUSINESS AT YOUR NEW CHURCH – PUT YOUR BUSINESS THERE. Present Members – TIME FOR YALL TO PRAY.

THE BLOG IS HORRIBLE. ALL YALL are a BUNCH OF COWARDS signing on with ALIAS NAMES. Ya’ll are the type of people who talk about PEOPLE BEHIND THERE BACK – Be a real man or woman and say who you are DEAL WITH IT HEAD ON. PUT UP OR SHUT UP. I HATE PEOPLE LIKE YALL – BUNCH OF COWARDS!!

yes I WILL SAY IT AGAIN – PUT UP OR SHUT UP!!! Stupid folks

My name is Tiffany Stone – FIND ME ON FACE BOOK YOU GOT SOMETHING TO SAY!! BE REAL ABOUT IT – FACE ME IF YOU GOT SOMETHING TO SAY – DIRECTLY!!

STUPID FOLKS: YALL STUPID!!!

Lord Forgive me so I can pray for this church, because the Christians on the Page prayer not gonna go anyfurther than the volume in there voice – NOT EVEN TO THE CEILING!

TIFFANY STONE, PROUD OF YOU!!!!! THE TRUTH IS PRICELESS!!!!! THE BIBLE SAID “EVERYTHING DONE IN DARKNESS SHALL BE BROUGHT TO THE LIGHT” SO WHATEVER IS OR ISN’T HAPPENING SHOULDN’T BE YOUR MAIN CONCERN.YOUR MAIN CONCERN SHOULD BE ABOUT PLEASING GOD AND YOUR PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR!!!!! PRAY PEOPLE PRAY,AND MOST IMPORTANTLY;ASK FOR FORGIVENESS FOR UNJUSTLY JUDGEMENT.

I want to say that I am a current pastor in Kannapolis. I just love the former pastor! She was a pinnacle of strength. One thing for sure, she believes in FBH. I talked to her two weeks ago and she talked very highly of her elder, bishops, and even encouraged me to network with the current pastor. I have a son who is learning how to play the guitar and she encouraged me to meet the new pastor because he was an awesome guitarist. I am amazed! I am going to miss that singing, preaching, organ playing,and teaching prophetess. The truth is, the pastor is a young lady that is wrapped up in wisdom. She almost encouraged me to join the movement!! I know that I am nobody; not even a member but she is a treasure that is worth preserving!!! She told me stories of her grandmother and other saints that believed in your organization. What she portrayed to me, is not what is being published on this blog. I will end with this, if Pastor L, is a representation of what this organization is, then this is a mighty church. Not scared, but just chose not to list my name.

Just to add to the previous post, the only thing that the pastor stated was that she did not want all of her hard work to go down the drain. With a ministry like that how can it? I assured her that everyone saw and was aware of her work. I will reach out to the new pastor. With an attack like this, y’all must be a force to reckon with….

I just found out about the blog. I am a member of the Glorious FBH Church. My former Apostle was Apostle Ida Belle Parker. I must say, that before the former pastor came to Mt. Calvary, we would visit that church and the people were down right nasty to my apostle. For that reason we just stayed away. We probably would have came back to the organization but the people treated us so cold. But that pastor came in showing love to us. She even loved my apostle back to the church and made her feel loved. Mt. Calvary was the last church she attended before she died. I know she did not take no money because they did not raise much money and the pastor paid most of that. All of you bloggers out there, this pastor is a mighty woman of God. She is a jewel!

To the former pastor in Kannapolis, your story is going to the nation! In the days of hirelings and jack legg preachers, it blesses me to hear of such an ambitious young lady and her struggle to maintain a church…… YOUR MIDNIGHT IS OVER!

All I can say is I never believed in women preaching until I heard the former pastor in Kannapolis. I went to a funeral and she preached a message entitled “safe at home”. That day, not only did I change my views, but I accepted Christ as my personal savior. Does anyone have her preaching schedule? If only I had taken the privilege of attending the church while she was in the area….. You think people will be around forever, but you never miss a good thang until its gone.

WELL ANOTHER FBH CHURCH IS GONE FRAZIER AND SHACKLEFORD HAS KILLED THE CHURCH IN PENDLETON THE MEMBERS HAS WORK OUT BECAUSE OF THE SUSPENION OF THERE PASTOR ONLY 3 MEMBERS LEFT I WONDER WHAT CHURCH THEY GOING TO KILL NEXT. SHACKLEFORD IS KNOWN FOR KILLING CHURCHES HE GOT SOMETHING ON FRAZIER CAUSE SHACKLEFORD DO WRONG HE DOES NOTHING WRONG. BUT THE COVER IS COMING OFFFFF.

My parents and I were talking about this page. And I made the comment that the problem is that people aren’t afraid of the bishops anymore like they were with Fuller and Roach. But it hit me and I realized that’s not the problem. The problem is people ain’t afraid of GOD anymore. I don’t know about the rest of y’all but I was taught very early on that its a very dangerous thing to cause confusion, chaos and mess in the church. I don’t know with what the author of the blog and the former pastor behind this intentions were suppose to be. But the result has been nothing but confusion, chaos and mess. And to all these posters hiding behind fake names that’s “airing out dirty laundry” and talking junk. What if someone was sitting at home. And after looking at the way the world is now, they decide they wanna start going to church and get saved. What if the only church they know of is an FBH church. But before they could go they just happen to come across this page. And after reading the story and comments from SOME of the posters on here. They say forget it and why bother. And as soon as they walk out the door they get killed before they could get right. Everyone needs to be very careful. God sees and hears all. And for every action there is a reaction! God is gonna get tired of mess. And when he gets tired of wickedness, he deals with it(see Sodom and Gomorrah and Noah’s Flood.) Just be careful. I wanna take this time to say that I stand behind the Bishops. All three of them. I remember growing up all you ever heard was how Bishop Fuller was taking money from the church to buy his custom Cadillacs and his big house. And some people was wanting Fuller out and Frazier to take over. Funny how things change. Fbh may be down to 160 churches. But you know what, that’s still alot of people to be over. One thing I found out from my military days and being placed over alot of people. Is that everyone sits back and thinks you have it made. But people don’t know what you went thru and go thru when you in that type of position. America (just like everything else) ain’t what it use to be. But its still America and you are innocent until proven guilty. Until the evidence, if there is any, is put out there, I support the Bishops and the Fbh church since apparently no one is going to. One day somebody might write a blog accusing you of something serious. Wouldn’t you want people to be fair and reasonable?

I just want to thank the bishops for not sending Pastor Leach back to Kannapolis. Looks like her time there was successful and it is time for the current pastor to spread his wings. Good luck to you sir. I do think it was the will of God for her to come back to the beach area. I assure you that pew walking prophet is on FIRE! She has the total package mixed with an ol’ school mix that is just awesome for her to be so young. Besides her evangelistic ministry, it was brought to my attention that she is helping some struggling churches in the movement and they are beginning to grow. She preached In a revival last week and talked about how being in Kannapolis made her. I was so encouraged. FBH you have an ambassador who is working in the vineyard. She sang a song entitled LEAVE IT ALONE! Now I realize why she sang it so hard. While she was running the revival, this publication was being initiated. How someone could preach like that amidst these allegations beats me. Mike, it’s people like you and her that are needed to carry on this work. All organizations have problems because we are all human and we are subject to error. Now that you all have vented, the dirt is out, allow God to heal you and carry out the vision of your leaders. Take the pastors advice and leave it alone cause God can fix it better than you….

Just got wind of dis blogg. The pastor that is the evangelist is a great revivalist. The older saints say that she has the spirit of people like Rev. Eaddy, and the Late Elder P.L. Frazier Sr. Those of us in beach area are glad that she is here. We have been encouraged through her preaching. If anyone believes that she is a thief, just listen at how she preaches. You eill change your mind quickly. She attributes her teaching to her grandmother. I asked if her gma was a national Figure. She said no, just a hard working lady who made sacrifices behind the scenes. If this is the type of preaching she produced, then her generation missed the opportunity to be cultivated by a warrior. FBH, do not let this lady slip from your hands. Do not loose her to other organizations. I trust you, she is WANTED! Kannapolis, you have been blessed to have been under this lady 9 years. She has a gift of prophecy that is rare. I witnessed her call out people last week and even tell them where they resided and everything….. It was amazing; left me begging for more. I think even amidst bad publicity, God is doing a great shaking among the movement. I was a former member in Marion, SC. Push aside some of these persons who are only occupying a place. She made a comment last week while on revival. She said that she was not one to follow the crowd, but that she was one that the crowd follows. She has a great band of support here and she ministers to all denominations.

If a pastor has been called in for questioning, shouldn’t that be confidential? Pray for both the accused as well as the victim. I maybe wrong but leaders, Check your inner circle, there has to be a leak within your immediate administration. Too much information being publicized within the ranks. Some of this info, has to come from those who sit in high places.

It is this kind of thing that caused me to leave. I was approached by a pastor in the grocery store who informed me today that they were on a Commitee who is deciding if another pastor will be keeping his church because he was guilty of molestation. Why was I a former member told that by a current pastor. Sounds like his fate has been decided. So pastor,pack up your robe.

MAY I SAY THAT THIS IS THE MOST OBSERD THING I HAVE CAME ACROSS..WHY ARE Y’ALL LETTING THE DEVIL USE YOU TO THIS MAGNITUDE..MICHAEL WELL SAID ..I MUST REASSURE YOU THAT THIS IS OF THE ENEMY , WHAT HE MEANT FOR EVIL GOD WILL TURN IT AROUND FOR GOOD..LET ME HELP YOU GUYS SEE SOMETHING..THIS IS WHAT CARNAL MINDED. CHTISTANS DO..THEY CALL YOU OUT NOT CARING WHO KNOWS..NO LOVE NOR RESPECT..FOR LEADETSHIP..I MEAN HOW DO YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT. IM SORRY YOUR OF YOURyou FATHER THE DEVIL..GOD DOESN’T OPERATE LIKE THIS..HE COMPASSIONATE AND MAYBE THIS IS WHY THE CHURCH CAN’T GROW..ITS NOT GETTING PROPER NOURISHMENT..OR MAYBE CAUSE THE TARES THAT THE ENEMY HAS PLACED AMONG THIS FOUNDATION..NEED TO BE GROWN OUT ..IM SO HURT THAT WHOEVER YOU ARE WILL ALLOW THE ENEMY TO USE YOU..IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE CHURCH..THEN JUST DON’T BE APART..THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED..WOE UNTO YOU..I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THIS..IF YOU ARE A MEMBER OF FBH THIS and WOULD BE THE TIME OF NEVER BEFORE THAT Y’ALL COME TOGETHER EVEN HARDER..AND WAKE UP TO WHAT’S GOING ON..THE ENEMY HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO TRY YOU AND ITS TIME TO GET CLOSER TO GOD ..AND LEAN TOWARD THE TRUTH..AND START A PRAYER CHAIN AND FAST ..I LOVE Y’ALL AND I KNOW THAT NOMATTER WHAT YOU ELDERS HAVE DONE IN PAST

BISHOP DAVIS PLEASE COME BACK TO NO 1 WE ARE IN BAD SHAPE SHACKLEFORD IS TERRIBLE HE SAT DEACON FRAZIER DOWN HE BEEN A DEACON FOR YEARS AND THE CHURCH IS VERY BAD SHAPE ALONG WITH THE DISTRICT WE ARE FALLING APART PEOPLE ARE LEAVING PASTORS ARE LEAVING SHACKLEFORD DONT KNOW WHAT HE IS DOING HE GOT A SEX DEMON AND BEATS HIS WIFE ALL THE TIME BUT YOU ALL STILL GOT HIM AS A RULING ELDER SHAME SHAME SHAME.

andra adaMS thats the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. You want a dog for elder? If that shackleford guy is that bad why don’t you just leave that church. How u know he got a sex demon. Sounds like he quit giving you the dick and now u mad. If he doin all this stuff and beating his wife. And messing your church up. And yall and his wife are still with him then yall are the dumbest motherfuckers ive ever seen. You and all these other people on here with these bogus names are a bunch of punk ass fucking cowards. If you had any guts you’d put your real name on here. But you want you gonna hide in the shadows like cockroaches. You talking all this shit but I bet you the first one to shake his hand. Its bullshit like this is why I’m an atheist now. At least in the world I know here I stand.

All I can say is I am appalled at what I am seeing here. My friends parents were FBH during my childhood. Although I was never a member, I frequented there a whole lot when I was a child. I always loved to visit the church. I have longed the true worship and praise that I have only seen exhibited in the FBH Church. My husband is now stationed in Fort Bragg, NC and I wanted to find a church closeby to visit and fellowship with. I googled the word fire baptized, and to my surprise this blog was listed. I had to read this three times through and through and then I went up into prayer. I asked God for a word of knowledge and he gave me one. He told me to print it on here because in regards to the last few ignorant comments phones would be ringing tonight instead of Sunday school books being opened and studying for tomorrow. This is what The Lord gave me for the FBH church. Because you have turned your heads and your ears to sin and covered it us for decades, God is pulling the covers. The current leaders will not be given the privilege of being Lords over God’s inheritance as those previous. God said, I am coming through and cleaning house. Hearses will roll in 2013. Sickness will sweep the Land in droves. Also, I do not know who this Adren Ada person is, by the comments and the undertone of the remarks, my guess would be the pastor who is being brought in for questioning. This is no way to express your anger to leadership because you do not like the administrative decision that they made. In this day and time, sexual allegations have to be taken seriously. You need to be secluded and covered in prayer. No one is fooled. To the bishops and elders, you have my prayers my only concern is that The only bishop who seemingly has any credibility sounds like Bishop Rodgers. If it was not so, by now dirt on him would be posted. The bible says that he winked on our forefathers, but he will not wink on us. I also prayed for the pastors who are mentioned, the only one that I received a word for is the one who is accused of draining the account or embezzlement. NOT SO, I hear the spirit say, well done thy good and faithful servant. I do not know you, but I would like to meet you. There were those in leadership that plotted against your person; they did a terrible thing. I admonish all who were a part of that plot to beg their pardon QUICKLY! They touched God’s general and God said not so. Some person who was jealous of your gift, sought to do you in and this brought a reproach upon the entire movement.When a pillar moves, the foundation will be shaken. You probably will have to exit the familiar in order for your gift to be made perfect. If God say so, do not be afraid. You are the only one who people are consistently defending as far as character. I hear The Lord say, countless doors are opening nationally as well as internationally. As hard as it might be for you, you may have to leave the familiar to embrace your future. I thank God for that Mike person who expressed himself. However, when people have been a part of something for generations, sometimes, it is hard to just walk away. I will be interceding for this organization. I and my husband have a very small ministry in the Raeford, NC area of about 70 members. We would join up with the movement for a covering of grace and fellowship but my husband has been previously married. Nonetheless, we would love to fellowship. Please do not feel hard concerning my post, I am only acting out of obedience.

I was looking over the past COGIC events and stumbled up on this….. Never heard of this sect. This has helped me to thank God for my church. There are right at 100 posts. Most of them are down right terrible. Does the evangelist have a website, if so can y’all post it?

FBH started in 1898. I’m a former member but I hold it dear to my heart. False accusations about former pastor in Kann. I know her personally. A true woman of God. FBH believes the same as COGIC. They just send out female pastors and the administration is set up differently but other than that….SALVATION, SANCTIFICATION, THE HOLY GHOST beliefs are the same….FBH does not endorse earrings and pants on females but some do wear them lol. My God, they know how to have church!

I met Pastor C, in Middletown, Ct. If you have her in your organization and she is not being utilized, then you need to just close up shop. Her gift needs to be on TBN. She prayed for a group of people and the entire row fell down. I was shaking even when I went home that night. When she comes to CT, we greet her with open arms. Just come on back to Ct, we luv ya and appreciate your gift of prophecy, preaching, and healing. I am glad that she is no longer in Ct. We were at a previous anniversary of hers and came all the way from Ct to Kannapolis to pledge our support. The visitors did ten times financially what her church did. The visiting bishop paid like $1000.00, her church gave another like $500 and the total offering was like $1,655.00 so in retrospect, the church did nothing. I started praying then for her to be elevated. I only saw one other FBH church who supported her which was a young lady pastor who was like the next time over. Just come back north pastor c. This was really a blessing in disguise.

Instead of cussing us out, could you explain what happened to our 50 years of report money? When Bishop Fraizer Went to the safe, he told us in the elders meeting that nothing was left but paperclips and rubber bands. Is that true? None of us believe that. What is the truth behind the charter school? They say that it is your fault? One thing is for certain, none of this crazy stuff happened when you were alive. We were foolish to say…. We can’t wait until uzziah dies, forgive us because when you died, so did the church. I miss the Fuller era. They do not even mention your name anymore and they got your son on the sanitation Commitee. We can’t report no more, sing going around the offering table; however they do let us shout and do not restrict our praise. They are trying to incorporate prophets… One takes up money, and one is accused of stealing money. We are so confused….We miss the Fuller dynasty, now we are in the Fraizer dynasty. Well, that is the update for now…

In defense of Bishop Davis, I like him. He Neva hurt me. I think he is cool. When he was on number 1, y’all talked junk about him and his wife. One time we raised $1500.00 for him in a district meeting for him cause he was in need. Y’all gave it to him and talked about it. So Andra, deal with it!

FIRST OFF MICHAEL MOSS YOU NEED TO SIT DOWN SOMEWHERE. QUIT ACTING LIKE YOU CARE ABOUT FBH. THE ONLY TIME YOU COME TO ANYTHING FBH IS TO THE CONVENTION SO YOU CAN TALK TO WOMEN. OTHER THEN THAT YOU AINT AROUND. THE ONLY REASON YOU COMMENTED WAS TO GET ATTENTION. SECONDLY SC#1 HAS CANCER AND ITS CALLED SHACKELFORD. #1 IS CRUMBLING UNDER HIM. HOW CAN THE BISHOPS NOT SEE THIS ESPECIALLY BISHOP DAVIS. HE IS DESTROYING WHAT YOU HAVE HELP BUILD UP. I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW HE CAN SIT DOWN A PASTOR FOR BEING ACCUSED OF MOLESTATION. BUT WHEN HE WAS ACCUSED OF SLEEPING AROUND WITH HIS BALD HEADED WIG WEARING NIECE NOTHING WAS DONE. THE PEOPLE ARE CLEARLY NOT BEHIND HIM. SO WHY KEEP HIM AS ELDER. HE IS AS CROOKED AS THE LETTER S. HE MADE ALL THE PASTORS ON #1 PICK HIM TO RUN THEY REVIVALS. JUST SO HE COULD GET THE MONEY. ELDER GOODBREAD NEVER DID THAT. ELDER DANNER NEVER DID THAT. BISHOP DAVIS NEVER DID THAT. HE DID THE SAME THING ON THE CHARLESTON DISTRICT. I CHALLENGE THE BISHOPS TO DO THE RIGHT THING. CUT OUT THE CANCER SO WE CAN LIVE. SEND SHACKELFORD OFF WITH REST OF HIS MONEY HUNGRY FAMILY. AND BRING ELDER ANTHONY DURHAM HOME TO RESTORE #1 TO GLORY.

I AM A MEMBER OF MACEADONIA FBH CHURCH OF GREENVILLE SC ONE SUNDAY MORNING SHACKLEFORD TOOK HIS SIS IN LAW INTO THE STUDY TO TEACH HER TO GET THE HOLY GHOST AND THE WIFE CAUGHT THEM IN THERE HUG UP AND HE CAME OUT WITH HIS DICK ON HARD HUMMMM THAT THANG WAS BIG IT MADE ME WANT TO GO IN THERE AND GET THE HOLY GHOST ALL OVER AGAIN MY NPUSSY GOT HOT I SAID LORD HAVE MERCY.

TO THE PASTOR IN PENDLETON ITS A SHAME THE WAY THEY DID YOU AS HARD AS U WORK IN THIS CHURCH THATS THE WAY THEY ARE THE PEOPLE TRY TO DO RIGHT THEY HOLD THEM BACK ANSD TREAT THEM LIKE A DOG IF I WERE U I WOULD PULL OUT I WOULDNT PUT UP WITH THERE SHIT.

I agree with Dr. Shaw, if that lady is a true prophet, (and according to half of the posts on here she is) then somebody is going to suffer. I sure do not want to come against you. I kinda feel sorry for her church ( members) sounds like they might have to suffer a little too. We just have to live what we say. I remember a lady from your movement from Louisiana who came and my cousins church, she was a little older but she was a preacher from her soul.

I’m waiting for someone to tell me how shackelfords nephew, who left the movement and had nothing good to say about fbh. Started his own church were he failed miserably. Came back cause his uncle is in charge and looking out for him. Got kicked out of ordination last year. Got magically ordained this year without going thru the process. Can be made pastor of a nice church in Pickens. Meanwhile the pews are full of preachers who have been faithful to the church and given they last dime to support it are getting looked over. The good old FBH church where all year long 0 souls get saved, 0 souls get sanctified. 0 souls get the holy ghost, 0 souls join the church. BUT if your financial reports stay the same or go up you get a good job and a pat on the back from the Bishop.

I am so disgusted that I could throw up! If there has ever been any body who is FBH, it is Pastor Leech in Kannapolis. How dare anyone accuse her of embezzlement.? Can you embezzle your own money? I tried to get her to leave this movement and she said no, she just could not. A church in Concord made her an offer of over 50k in salary and she refused. That woman took a financial hit to only be mistreated? Are you serious? I know personally that if it was not for a church coming in the evenings and helping her, she would not have been able to pay her church bills and reports. She only had a black lady and a white lady that helped her. The rest of those members, only used her and talked about her. They are the type that likes to shine in the limelight. She hosted a conference that is second to none. If she was money hungry then she would have charged. She did not charge a dime,but was a bkessing to everyone that came. She gave out very nice gifts and fed like none other.PASTOR LEECH, SWEETHEART! I KNOW YOU LOVE FBH, BUT THEY CARE NOTHING FOR YOU! PLEASE BETTER YOURSELF AND ALLOW GOD TO BLESS YOU. I AM DONE!

Does anyone know how to get in touch with Missionary Carmon Montgomery? Is she the lady who is no longer in Kannapolis? I sure hope not, if that is her, tell her that Elder Harrington from Upper Room COGIC desperately needs to get in touch with you. I could sure put you to work along with Superintendent Wooden. She knows how to contact us.

This member of Macedonia FBH church in Greenville you have a lot to say about the church and its members. Where are you getting you facts from, and can you prove what you say is the truth, and if the pastor, Elder and Bishop put in front of the church can u prove yourself right or a stay hidden behind you aka name you have posted on this blog? Or you said this things because you want the Elder for yourself????

Just one question, where was the ruling elder during all of this when that lady was going through all of that drama? I just read an article about how pastors get messed over and abused. I hope she is ok. There is something wrong with the system if a person struggles for 9 years, then in less than 3 weeks the church receives a drastic face lift. That is so dirty, God is not pleased.

Columbia district has a sex demon money hungry elder too. There is also a married Pastor on that district that has a baby and nothing was done about it. I know all about the hush money,elders and pastors sleeping with everyone body except who they’re married to and how bishop frazier is apponting family members as Elders. Now Im pretty sure that all three bishops has heard about this blog by now. But Im curious as to why none of the allegations has not been address by the bishops. Of course I’m not expecting them to post a comment on here, but at least contact your ruling elders so the elders can address each district to assure us that the church is in fact not going bankrupt.

All I can say is that the reputation of FBH is totally shot in Kannapolis NC. Every time they send a great pastor through, they mess over them and create a scandal. This happened 50 years ago when they did the same thing to Bishop W.T Bowens. That church was on the map. Then they conspired to get rid of him. Now here we come and the same thing happened again. Not so much that she left, but that now they send in this man who I understand is related to the bishop, now we see all of this work being done. Where was the work when pastor was sick, and going through. The citizens of Kannapolis love and totally support her. As for Mt. Calvary, just sell the building. Then the church in Concord is a mess! Looks like an outhouse. Do something with that! These male shovanist leaders are showing their hand.

Let me just say, first of all I am outraged with the many comments, whether they are true or fause . What about us getting the proper facts and then praying for God to intervene in these situations. My Grandfather helped build Mt. Calvary as well as being one of founding members. Pastor Leach is a personal friend of our family and has exemplified Godly chsracter ss long as I have known her. As for the person who mentioned the church in Concord being a mess, it may be a mess in your book but it is apart of my legacy. My Grandfather founded that church and had it built. Be very careful who you put your mouth on. Yours is coming right down the street.

I am hurt! I am a 14 year old member on the south central district. Elder Powell is my pastor and elder. You think kids do not know nothing but they do. I overheard some adults talking about this after church so I checked it out. I always liked Pastor Leach. She would always take time to speak to us kids. She would give us money and candy. My of the big people just brush us off. I always saw how crazy my pastor looks when she was up talking and preechin. I heard somebody say he hated pastor leach because she run her mouth too much. His son told some of the chior members that it was time for a change. Is this what happens in church? I miss her. She told me I was somebody. In our church no other kids mean anything but Sis. Brown’s kids.

That is a shame! Word in Kannapolis is that some of the former members of the rock church told us that they elder said that she did not want to be there to the church with them. I told them that man should be ashame of hisself. She allowed the choirs to come back and have anniversaries. She was a good lady. I know that it was more to it than dat. They church is so corrupt and full of liars. That is why I am locked up away from my family now. Pastor Montgomery, you are so better off.

I became familiar with this church in May of last year, a good friend of mine is a Minister in this church and his aunt is a officer of the church. His aunt and two other ladies led me to Christ during that convention.

Everything I have read on this blog makes me angry but there are problems in every church that don’t mean I’ll stop supporting it. I’ll pray for the church.

There are no FBH Churches here in Hawaii but I do consider myself to be a member of the FBH church I send my tithes to my friend’s church. I might not know the ins and outs of the church but I love the people I have encountered. God Bless this great church!!!

I AM IN SHOCK! In shock for several reasons, first of all I stumbled on this I would say by accident but it was no accident. I was a former in law of the pastor on Kannapolis. I say former because she was really deceived by my cousin. It was a terrible situation; one that I could not have handled, but she came through like a trooper. She still treats my family as if we are real family. She has never downed my cousin to us or anything. I just talked to her a few days ago and she sounded so happy. I would have never known that she was caught ip in a scandal like this. She loves FBH for sure and she is certainly a true woman of God. She is not one to be messed over. We had never had a minister in our family, she was a blessing to us. I know she is no thief because she put her all into that church. I would say this, please find a better way to address your problems and concerns. This is a poor representation not just of the FBH Church but the entire body of Christ.

In regards to this post, not only is the FBH Church rep ruined in Kannapolis, but it is bad in Concord. Those two pastors were some hardworking ladies. Both had chances to move on, not just Pastor Leach. It is a sheer disgrace how St. John and pastor there are always overlooked. Why can’t they help St. John and that pastor a little more? Nepotism is about to kill what is left of this movement. 95% of the district feel that the pastor in Concord was wronged for not being elevated to District President. She is good enough to pay money but that is all. One day the Pastor in Concord gonna get sick and tired of the mess and move on. If she did not have family support, she would be up the creek like the other pastor.

Elder Powell don’t like Bishop Davis. He thought he was going to be the bishop but the chalkboard told the story in general council. He is intimidated by anyone who can preach better than him… He can’t stand Sis. Davis, he told some of the people at Zion she was crazy and not to bless them on the district. He totally changed the Sunday School convention around so Bishop and First Lady can not teach. He is a mess. Dang we sick of him at 6301 OLD MT. HOLLY ROAD! By the way, in the last business meeting some of our accounts are in the Black! It’s hard tryin to be big when little gotcha!

Lol y’all call y’all self save and talking about each other shaking my head ; and since y’all talking about FBH so much let’s get on these other churches we hear about pastors doing in this sin world !!

I used to be a part Of this organization for a number of years, but pulled out for other reasons than whats being mentioned on here. It’s truly a praying time because a House divided can not stand.. Just wondering, where are the praying saints.

12/26/12 at 4:01 am Wednesday
“For God so loved the world that he gave His one and only Son, that whoever believers in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.”
I am just horrify as well as disappointed with the ones who publicized this information and the ones who are following up this garage. Don’t you know that you are going against God Holy Words, especially pastors that are feeding into this trash and talking about pulling out of the church “with your anointed selves”? What’s wrong with you people? I’ll organization is already trying to recover from past events. How easily can you forget that we all are praying to God for restoring and rebuilding our membership, and taking back the things the canker worms has eaten up(conventions prayers). I heard some of you testifying about how hard your ancestors worked and sacrifice for this organization and it’s have become obvious that you take it for granted. People are praying and you are spread hatred and causing discontentment among people of God. I said woe unto you.
As I read your disgusting, crude and filthy reviews about the saints. I have been praying and hoping someone else would address this matter. However, you are bashing one another, publishing false information about our leaders and the saints, forgive me but “the ones you appointed”, I have heard this before When Jesus rode into the city and people welcome Him and the same people went before the king at His trail demanded that He be put to death and when King Saul was elected to be King of Jewish nation, does this sound familiar. Read the stories.
You have literally printing information about things that the sinners and our young converts should not hear from you; things that could get someone kill or destroy people lives and home. Do you know that you can be sued for slanders? This blog is a setup from the devil and you have fallen victims of his temptation. Have you forgotten? The devil comes to deceits and destroys God plans for you. Let me legally inform you that your email address can be confiscated. Even though the blog tells you that your email will not be disclosed but a lawyer can file a law suit against the blog creator and get all the email addresses. I am a shame of you; the devil set a trap and you fell for the rotten bait; these are the people you attend worship services with! Shout with! Prayed with and in the past and future times has loaned them a helping hand when needed. Let me tell you that you are not tearing these people houses down but God house. You have broken God Law, not the Fire Baptized Church law. Don’t be surprised when you find yourself or your love one in a cancerous stated of health. Woe unto you! Because your sins will not go unpunished for scattering God sheep’s… This is warning unto you if you go against my prophet, saidth the Lord. Instead of working against our leaders; we need to pray for them that God will/would equip them with wisdom and knowledge to lead us. People make mistakes that why there are erases on pencils. The scriptures saying let us come together to make those thing that are wrong to right (paraphrase). You will die out but the church will live on through our children and Fire Baptized old timers. That a promise.
This is a message for those who are offering invitation for our people to come and join your churches. Beware of what you asking for because you got your problems too. Instead of you praying for us, you are encouraged our people to leave. What kind of leader you are. Shame on you. You will reap what you sow as well.
Any questions but do not hesitate to come contact me at 4june27@msn.com or through the blogs.
First Lady of the Second Episcopal Diocese
Sister Dorothy Davis

I am a pastor of the FBH Church. I got sick to my stomach when I begin to read this blog. However, after I finally finished reading it, 90% of this garbage is TRUE! I have seen all of the lies, cover-ups, plots, sins, etc first hand. I am speaking out now because it is time for us FBH to stop acting like our church is perfect. Bishop Frazier is a praying man but that’s all! He does not handle business. On the other hand, Bishop Fuller handle business then he prayed. Bishop Rodger is a people person who knows how to energize and motivate. I understand he is the one that has initiated for the FBH church to go on a 40 day fast and prayer. However, if he is leading a church that does not believe in divorce or second marriage, why have he and his wife been separated for years. Yes, he lives in an apartment and his wife lives in the house. Look at the signs, he never openly has said he loved her. He is never with her. Matter of fact, during the YPI last year, he stayed at the Hyatt in Greenville along with his “secretary” and his wife stayed at the Fairfield Inn. Check the records for yourself! Check the Knox County public records for yourself. If you still need proof, call Hyatt in Greenville and Fairfield Inn. Bishop Rodges has obtained all of the good preachers on his diocese so when he makes his move to split/pull out (WHICH IS GOING TO HAPPEN IF FRAZIER STAYS IN OFFICE) he will have a following. Bishop Davis is an neutral individual, he is just a YES man. — Let us expose some things many of us have kept quite for years. The elder of Tennessee and pastor of Mt. Moriah has approached many men throughout the church for sexual favors…Matter of fact, the Bishops know about this but nothing is down because they want you to write a charge — WELL HECK, if your word is good enough for the police department, why can’t it be good enough for the church?– I am furious because I have been on many Finance Committees during conventions and guess what is done with the money….After the Bishops and Elders get their cut and whomever else they want to have some, they pass the remainder of the money around on the people on committee. When Bishop Roach was living, he use to give more to the ladies. Now, if you are a Bishop and know you have a church that can not get insurance or needs a roof, why waste money like that? Well, let us continue our exposure in Southwestern NC, the elder is a liar and a crook. He is very good friends with the elder of Tennessee and the elder of South Central…(birds of a feather flock together). If you don’t believe then, just go visit his church and check out the musician and how close they are. South Central NC, the elder here has TWO FACES!!! Every since Bishop Frazier became members of his church, he think he is unmovable! He have has plotted against and destroyed so many lives at GMZ. Well now it is time to expose, his son was caught making out with a guy who died from aids on Sunday morning and if that is not enough, his son has a baby by a family member. The boy looks, stand, act, and walk identical, he even calls elder powell and his wife “grandma and grandpa” but Elder powell believe that his members and district are just stupid and dumb. South Carolina #1, everything that was said about Shakelford is TRUE plus one, he licks his lips, squeezes his crotch and shakes his legs like an animal hunting prey. South Carolina #2, the elder is bishop frazier brother. His church in Hartsville SC don’t want him there because he has changed everything and thinks he is better than everyone else. BUT, what will be done because the church can’t go to the bishop because it is his brother! Columbia SC, this elder is a hot nasty old mess! I have seen him in action jaw to jaw with ladies but again, my word is not good enough, I have to write a charge. I believe if I am brave enough to go tell a bishop an event, I am brave enough to stand in the face of anyone else. This write a charge mess is another way to for the FBH not to deal with issues. Staying in Columbia SC, the pastor of Christian Chapel who is also a police officer is a womanizer. He has had sexual relationships from many of the ladies in the area and because he and his elder are working together and covering up for each other, nothing is being done…YES the BISHOPS know about this too but….I need to write a charge. — I believe I have exposed a lot that many people know about about are just too afraid to talk or don’t believe nothing will be done.

Not to say I dont believe you BUT if you are a pastor of one church on one district. How do you know all this stuff?. You’ve called out 1 Bishop, 6 Elders, 1 National Musician, 1 Local Pastor. My main question is, if you are brave enough to tell the bishop and come on here and entertain us then why are you so against writing the charge? If you took the time to type all of that and you are truly “TireOfItAll” then writing the charge should be a walk in the park. You keep saying they wont do anything. Well how do you know that if you dont write the charge? Btw unless its a bomb threat or truly a matter of life and death, just your word isnt good enough for the police. You do have to file formal complaints. They do take written statements. They do look for something called EVIDENCE. There are questions that must be answered. Its called an investigation! You cant just go to the cops and say TireOfItAll molested my underage son. You have to go through the formal process. Didnt your elder teach you this “pastor?”

Cory the coward,
You are not fooling nobody. SHAME ON YOU! After all the bishop did for you. What about all of those lives you destroyed with your out of control SEX DEMON! All of those children and women you done screwed and messed over here in York. You better go register…..

EVERYONE believes Cory Moses is behind this blog and several comments. TireOfItAll aka Cory Moses next time you decide to come on here and bad mouth everyone. Be sure to change your wording. Soon as I read this I knew it was you because you said the exact same thing about the exact same people to me on the phone. I wonder how many women you fooling around with in your new church? We all know you had your pick in York Mt Zion.

hey first of all i am a former victim of cory dean moses and he know for a fact he did what he was accused of i he will pay for his crimes cause them two years he spent n prison wasnt enough he had to come ut and do the same thing in sc and its not all his fault its his father in law because he gave him that church so his daughter and grandkids would be taken care of because no body would hire a sex molester tera u need to be smart and get ur kids away from him before he do the same thing to his own thats if he havent already but he is sick and need help and he need to tell his parents why he is the way he is but i do it for u his uncle raped him as a teenager and didnt tell anybody now as a grown man he feels like he has to do the same thing. head bishop come to convention and talk about rape and molestation and people need to stand up and tell whats going on and not sweep it under the rug but nigga dats what u been doing for years to cover ur ass cory was molesting in charlotte and everybody knew bout it but swept it under the rug but his ass got caught when he brought that shit to gastonia we aint sweeping shit and i hope the girls u continue to mess with stand up and tell so u can go back to prison or u gonna meet ur match in the streets one day trying to rape a child and thier parent is going to put a bullet in ur behind and that may be what stop u but remember cory dean moses u can still act like u are the victim and wrongly accused but when u die u still has to answer to GOD who has seen evrything u have done bet ur ass wont come back to the mighty southwestern with that

THIS SITE IS FALSE – ALL ACUSATIONS ARE FALSE – THE PEOPLE SIGNING IN WITH ALIAS NAMES ARE FALSE – THIS BLOG NEEDS TO BE REMOVED!!!

ALL THESE FOLKS CLAIMING WHAT THEY SAY ARE TRUE – SHUT UP..HAHA

TIME TO PRAY CHURCH! The Devil is Mad – so sad that the Devil are using yall.

To all the Elders and WIvES/ Pastors and there WIVES/Pastors…whoever who are being hurt by this I pray for you all. Lord keep them covered in Jesus Name. Let them continue to Go Forth – Teaching and Preaching the Word of God. Lord I pray that you also Keep there Families that are being affected by THESE FALSE NEGATIVE COMMENTS.

Bishop Frazier must be doing soemthing right – ALL EYES ARE ON THE FIRE BAPTIZED HOLINESS CHURCH…GO HEAD BISHOP! You know the Devil don’t like when a impact is made so he will use whaterver and he is using yall stupid ignorant people.

God is not the Author of Confusion – God is nowhere in this. So this is ALL SATAN.

This post needs to be deleted. This is not doing anything abut allowing a bunch of cowards to hide behind closed doors/and computers.

To my Understanding as I OVERHEARD a conversation – I am a member in SCentral, I do understand This Blog stemmed from Cory M. a FORMER pastor of the FBH Church. – who needs to be uncovered. Its probably him logging in with so many different alias keeping this Post Going giving different opinions

As I have watched him over the last 15 years he’s nothing but a Gossiper and Trouble maker being in Everybody BUSINESS (MARRIED AND UNMARRIED) and will say and do anything and “supposedly a Pastor” YEAH RIGHT. I am glad he’s no longer here. Yes he was a straight trouble maker and I see he still is

I am also watching seeming like there is a lot of support for the Pastor in Kannapolis – something about that just don’t seem right. All this support and shotouts going on this Page should’ve been sitting in the PEWS in her church. This is like going to a funeral..Momma is dead no need to speaking up now because its worth NOTHING! If you were there and did everything that you needed to do then none of these allegations would be in place.

THIS POST/BLOG/THREAD/ needs to be deleted. All these different allias are still COVERUPS just like you accusing everybody else above.

I am a former member of the FBH church. Whats’s happening here is happening to churches all over America. The old school demonations are dying. There is an element of truth in most of the blogs and comments I have read. I went to the conventions in Greenville and throughout the country. The services are alive and they praise the lord, but there is nothing for young people to do, and if you wear pants or make-up you are looked down on. There were great opportunities to serve in the FBH but not many of the churches are growing and they are always raising money. I dont blame Bishop Fuller for the money aspect, but I do blame him for not changing the church disciplines. It’s gonna take a young , energetic visionary to save the FBH church. I saw a lot of people get saved an delivered in the FBH church. I dont see that anymore however.

This is Cory M. Please leave me out of this. People have feelings and families. I just hate the fact you all saved filled folk entertain this. I would never put such mess out, I know how it feels to be talked about. Please leave me out, I left the FBH, SO LEAVE ME ALONE.

IM FROM TRUELIGHT FBH CHURCH I CANT UNDERSTAND WHY BISHOP SUSPEND A PASTOR ON A LIE AND HAVE NOT SUSPEND SOME OF THESE ELDERS THAT HAVE BABIES AND GAMBLING THEY HAVE THERE PICKS.. BUT GOD IS STILL ON THE THRONE.

Ladies and Gentleman. This “lady” andra adaMS, is the one who STARTED THIS BLOG, and is mad because she slept with ELDER/Pastor Herman Sanders and mad because they got caught fucking on the communion table. So since she got caught, she decided to just out everybody else so she doesn’t go down solo. Lol. Pathetic!

Well at least the BISHOP’S WIFE, sees the need to address this mess! Sister Davis, it is unfortunate that you guys inherited this mess but it is all in the line of duty. All y’all talking about is praying, but it is time for some action. From the people’s standpoint, nothing is going up but the bishop’s salaries. Y’all look real good in those new cars; I need one too! You all have had your struggles in ministry; I know you have! Help us to help you! We need a break at least financially! Sure we elected officers but we expected a change in administration! THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGED WAS THAT WE CAN SHOUT AS LONG AS WE WANT. AND THE BISHOPS SALARIES! WE DONE SHOUTED ABOUT IT NOW, NOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT LATER! It seems as if no one cares….. I am a 3rd generation FBH MEMBER! But this is not what the older saints worked for. I tell you what, we did not see this stuff under Bishop Fuller’s administration. We are tired! Are you all going to let the movement totally die out before you address these allegations? I know that you know a lot of these are true because I overheard you talking about some of this stuff yourself! COME ON NOW! Don’t play games too! As for the sexual issues…LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE AND LET THEM REMARRY! ALL YOU ARE DOING IS ADVOCATING WHOREDOM! If you all would clean Up and stop trying to cover up you could revamp this movement. As long as those elders keep filling up your pockets and making high reports you are not going to do anything to them. Evidently, you don’t trust God! So all you have is a bunch of money hungry, sorry, sex crazed, homosexual elders in position who know they have nothing to worry about. Then you speaking sickness on us, for your and your pocketbook sake, y’all better hope the few of us who are here stay alive and well! Since you are so spiritual, how do you have time to follow up this mess. If I am not mistaken, you almost died in our annual convention……

I know there are some punking elders; the bishops have heard about it! I GOT PROOF AND AM ABOUT TO MAKE IT PUBLIC! I got pics, text messages, and copies of returned checks in lieu of sexual favors. Some have been written on church accounts at BB&T! Hint, hint!

You sure let your son in law make a fool put of you. He said he was going to get you! HE DID! You should have just kept paying their bills…. He told my best friend how you paid your daughter 40k out of the church account to be your secretary. We also know that you were receiving money from the charter school every month. He told numerous people. Then he put up this blog…..A FAMILY THAT PREYS TOGETHER, STAYS TOGETHER …… Then the liar is telling people he knows nothing about this blog. No wonder your sister screamed so hard at their wedding; I was not there; I just saw the tape….

In the words of Bishop Fullers Ghost, some people on here are cockroaches!!! And do you make a cockroach hinding in the dark run? You shine the light on them! I keep re-reading the comments from andra adaMS. I find it very interesting that #1 You keep bringing up the situation in Pendleton and how the pastor was done wrong. #2 You keep taking shots at Bishop Frazier and Elder Shakelford. #3 You are obviously a part of SC number one. #4 When you first commented on here you first used the name Alice Tucker then switched to andra adaMS . All that leads me to ask one question: andra adaMS is your real name Lon Abrams?

I AM NOT A COWAN I PUT MY NAME ON HERE I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST BISHOP FRAZIER OR ANY OF THOSE BISHOP YOU NEED TO GET A JOB AND GO TO WORK AND THEN YOU WANT HAVE TIME FOR THIS FOOLISHNESS I DONT HAVE TO MAKE UP A NAME LIKE YOU I AM NOT A COWAN LEAVE ME ALONE AND MY CHURCH WE CAN TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN PROBLEMS WITH THE HELP OF GOD AND I AM NOT SUEING THE FBH NOW RUN AND TELL THAT. PASTOR LON ABRAMS.

Im also a member of FBH and I cant sit down and keep quiet about what Ive seen take place over the years. I got sick to my stomach when I begin to read this blog. But THE COVER IS COMING OFF NOW. Bishop Stefano DiMera is really an evil master mind. I also know that Elder John Black has been secretly sleeping with with first lady Marlena Evans. Pastor Roman Brady has no clue whats really going on. I also know that Deacon Bo Brady is really Victor Kiriakis (National treasurer of the FBH church) son. He and church mother Caroline Brady had an affair and Bo was the result, But they kept it secret and passed Bo off as Caroline and her husband Chairman Deacon Shawn Brady’s son. The Salem District is really messed up!!!

SEE WHAT I DID THERE? THATS HOW STUPID SOME OF THESE POST ARE. THATS HOW YALL SOUND. LIKE ONE BIG SOAP OPERA.

All kidding aside. I am kin to a high ranking fbh officer. I can confirm that Bishop Frazier DID take the 23 million. Hes using it to build a moon sized space station called THE DEATH STAR! It will have a laser so powerful that it can destroy entire denominations at once!!!!.

Rev. Abram I wuz in your corner, but that last remark let me no dat you is Andra AdaMS. Everything iz in caps and you can not spell worth a darn. I bet we won’t get no mo posts from Andra AdaMS (AKA) Lon Abrams…..

I agree!!! Rev Abrams, coming on here trying to defend yourself is the worst thing you couldve done. Cause you just made yourself look completely guilty. The least you couldve done was take the all caps off. And mix in the spell check and several periods. Im completely disappointed. You on here spreading junk and cussing no less. And with what youve been accused of, WHY would you write the post about about Shacklefords d**k? Oh well everybody already thought you were gay anyway……

I want you to know that I am saved, sanctified, Holy Ghost filled and yes FIRE BAPTIZED! I have seen the numerous posts and comments but will at this time keep ALL comments to myself. Let us clear up this misconception; NO I DID NOT CLEAR THE ACCOUNT; THERE WAS NOTHING TO CLEAR. This year, our ministry faced a few difficult problems which caused a great strain on our finances; (2 burglaries, loss of heating units, etc) these unfortunate incidents caused a strain on our finances. As someone said in an earlier post, Kannapolis (the city) has endured great financial strains; it is not a millionaire paradise, but it is filled with a lot of good hearted people whom I have developed a kindred spirit with. My former church is no different than countless other ministries who are under attack right now. If you do not believe that just browse a few of the other posts where mega ministries are going bankrupt. The truth of the matter is that many churches are under a great strain both financially as well as spiritually. To those who are urging me to leave the church, I will say to you like I tell everyone that I speak to, I have to be led by God. Currently, he has NOT instructed me to leave the movement. I am from a great lineage of strong people who taught me that you never tuck your tail and run at the first line of trouble. I AM A SURVIVOR! I am currently attending church on the Greater Charleston district. Also, it is no secret that I needed to get closer to home. I was offered 2 chances to pastor, however I asked to have the ability to evangelize which I am doing now. I encourage all who were frequenting and visiting my former church to continue on and render service to the current pastor and his family. We all had to start somewhere. None of us started out knowing how to pastor; we had to trust in God and rely upon support from others. Also, I have never, nor am I now subject to any discipline sanctions from any of my leaders. I have been in touch with all three bishops throughout the holidays; they have my complete support as well I have theirs. I do not hoard my evangelistic ministry only to the FBH Church. It is not my own; it belongs to God! I pray that everywhere my feet trod, someone’s life will be changed forever and that souls be added to the kingdom. Please feel free to email me a judysbabygirl@icloud.com for any further comments, questions, and concerns. Oh yes, before I sign off; to those who said that I put this out; TOTALLY LUDICROUS! Have you all ever known me to NOT, vocalize my feelings and concerns publicly? That is so not my style!!! My style is….. Saying it aloud in the front of everyone (100 year celebration, numerous conventions and church functions); and for private matters HAVE A MEETING WITH ALL PARTIES INVOLVED! In closing, I pray that all persons have made their comments, expose, degrade, and etc. I hope you have everything out of your system. It is time to learn and grow from this. I preached a message entitled; after the storm REBUILD. That is what needs to occur now. The intense mudslinging has to cease; it is accomplishing absolutely NOTHING. Also, being a criminal justice major, this all CAN be tracked; not to the fictitious names/emails, but to the computer devices that they were sent that is thanks to the department of homeland security. Also, not much can be done legally as far as being sued; done checked. The freedom of the press has that on lockdown; it will just have to die out. Let’s not go into the new year with this mess from the previous year. Again, I thank all of you for your calls, support, Facebook messages, and prayers for me during this transition in my life. I was told once that one day my name would go out to the nation; this wasn’t really what I was looking for but nevertheless, even through this, God has allowed me to meet numerous people that I may network with through ministry. I realize that this all comes with the territory when you are on your way to greatness! Pray for me as I sojourn in my ministry endeavors.

One could be sued for slander and libel; but in order to do that, the allegations must be proven to be in fact FALSE AND NOT VALID! However, if the person who said is is financially defunct, (broke) and has no properties, or royalties, you are just wasting your time and nobody gets anything except the attorney….

I was just parusing through this article and realized that you all were referring to the former pastor of the rock church in Nighttown (Kannapolis). I was only able to be in her company a few times. She presided over the funeral for Pastor Gill in Sidestown (Concord). A lot of people used to be scared of that church because of its past; but I am afraid for its future. I believe that it is a disgrace how this movement does not handle issues. This is the talk of Cabarrus county. The pastor of Kannapolis is really before her time. She deserves so much better…

Also, I work for the Independent tribune, we are planning to do a page in dedication of Pastor Carmon for her efforts to revitalize the Nighttown community. When she started pastoring the rock church, the crackhouses began to shut down. The last time I went there the other week, they look like they are back in business….

If you would read instead of assume and accuse, this blog states at the beginning who started all of this…I quote “obnoxious Media reached out to Crystal Parks Lewis, who grew up in the organization and family members are in leadership, confirmed Fire Baptized is in serious trouble! You all posting names, accusations and assumptions and using alias’s to cover up your identity, just know a prominent attorney has been contacted and a request for the email addresses and server identifications has been requested and soon all of the cowardly individuals who throw slanderous accusations online and still smile in the faces of those you accuse will definitely be exposed very soon.

To Pastor B. Taylor the blogger never stated that a started this mess. He said he reached out to me. And, that is because he knew I was in the Fuller Family and he wanted to see if there was any validity to the email that was sent to him by the culprit of this mess. I told Mr. Obnoxious that the FBH church has dwindled down over the years but should not have any financial problems. I asked him who sent him the email and he told me. With that being said if anyone contacts me I will expose the culprit of the email. I will not do it on here because I told Mr. Obnoxious I wouldn’t reveal his source. Bottom line I’m not the method behind the madness. I can be reached at crystallewis333@yahoo.com

LORD help this chaos and confusion…which behind the scene is the trick of the enmey! Does anyone recognize the tactive of the devil. I am very surprised about the onslaught of the “entire” Body of Christ not just any one particular church. We need to take a paradigm shift and get into spirtual shape with GOD!

I may not be affiliated with the denomination any longer ..but I will say this..you had to be shaken up for a minute ..To get a message. Apostle Paul said I pray you have the zeal for God but according. To knowledge ..I know the 3 bishops are God fearing men.so if everyone will get behind them and start respecting who God has placed AMONG you, trust in the vision. That he has set through the bishops and the church will flourish ..im in agreement that not only the hearts of the people will love. God . him with your mind..i loved this Church..and. will alwayslove.God ..you

To Lady TaMela he reached out to me because I’m in the Fuller family and was a member that recently left. So, it’s my business what goes on with the legacy that my uncle left behind. So, maybe you should mind your own business.

FBH Church should never be broke! They have been raise money for years and NEVER have done anything for the local church. These state convention happen every year, The pastor and the local make there reports and the churches or the people never benefit from one dime raised and they are talked to and tryed like TRASH! This whole body needs A complete make over! Just this past October in The Northeast Ohio and Southwest Ohio convention, there Bishop Rogers made a complete fool of himself by not know the different a between a gift or a calling and send a 76 YEAR OLD MAN OUT TO THE GREEN FIELD TO START A CHURCH, after he had already pastor 3 of there churches and remodel all of those that he pastored and raise his own money to do so WITH NO HELP FROM THE GENERAL CHURCH but they have been taking these people money’s for years! Now where is God in that??? When are the people of this great old FBH CHURCH GOING TO AWAKE OUT OF THERE SLEEP? Please quit beening stupid and ask question about your money and the order of the church. If you want your twenty three million dollars ask the FULLER FAMILY AND DR FANNY, which over seas bank it might be in Kingston, Jamicia! Where Bishop Fuller built him a summer home years ago! I don’t believe that all of this mess shod fall on Bishop Fraizer.

this got to be a relative of the 76 year old man…….and the relative is clueless or 2 young to know. The 76 year old man once stated that he had dr. fannin wrapped around his baby finger. The bishops sent the 76 year old man more money than any other pastor on those 2 districts combined. Ask the 76 year old man if he ever got money from the bishops. if he says he didn’t, then he’s a 76 year old liar and the truth aint in him.

i told the fbh church in the last general council before i departed that this church was going to split because you have a weak leader in this year of 2013 will tell the story more people will be leaving churches will be pulling out frazier will not last until 2014 i have prayed to my father that he will be removed for the sake of the church. hold on fbh a change is coming very very soon stay together love one another there are some elders should have never been put in place. but they will soon be replace they are not of god they have been sent by the demons of hell but they will be destroyed soon. some will not make 2013 out because god is going to pull the cover off and everybody will see be bless live on fbh.