Hi guys!
I tried a Cinnamon on arch last week and decided to try it on gentoo, because arch can't handle him without gnome-session.
So I have two questions:
1. Is it possible to bind Cinnamon to any DM except gdm/gnome-session?
2. If it is, where can I found detailed manual about it? (something like kde installation article on wiki)

Hi guys!
I tried a Cinnamon on arch last week and decided to try it on gentoo, because arch can't handle him without gnome-session.
So I have two questions:
1. Is it possible to bind Cinnamon to any DM except gdm/gnome-session?
2. If it is, where can I found detailed manual about it? (something like kde installation article on wiki)

Thanks in advance

Take this with a grain of salt, since I am not a gnome user, but from my understanding, cinnamon is just a replacement for gnome-shell with a vintage layout, so, it wouldn't surprise me if it needed gnome to be built, and, of course, to run.

You can however use whatever login manager you prefer, gdm is probably not mandatory (just edit /etc/conf.d/xdm and set it to lightdm, xdm, kdm, or whatever you prefer).

As for running cinnamon, it would surprise me if it works standalone. If all you want is a windows-like taskbar and a menu, there are smaller projects that can work separately, such as lxpanel or xfce4-panel._________________Gentoo Handbook | My website

Probably you are right regarding to use xfce. I have xfce installed as well, but the main thing I dislike in it is a panel. Menu and windows are not so bad. I tried a numerous of themes but xfce panel still ugly.
I just would like to leave periodically my kde for some fresh look and feel. Cinnamon looks fine, but totally unuseable when typing due to traditional keyboard switching is broken and could not be configured in legacy state (Ctrl+Shif or Alt+Shift).

Hi guys!
I tried a Cinnamon on arch last week and decided to try it on gentoo, because arch can't handle him without gnome-session.
So I have two questions:
1. Is it possible to bind Cinnamon to any DM except gdm/gnome-session?
2. If it is, where can I found detailed manual about it? (something like kde installation article on wiki)

Thanks in advance

Take this with a grain of salt, since I am not a gnome user, but from my understanding, cinnamon is just a replacement for gnome-shell with a vintage layout, so, it wouldn't surprise me if it needed gnome to be built, and, of course, to run.

You can however use whatever login manager you prefer, gdm is probably not mandatory (just edit /etc/conf.d/xdm and set it to lightdm, xdm, kdm, or whatever you prefer).

As for running cinnamon, it would surprise me if it works standalone. If all you want is a windows-like taskbar and a menu, there are smaller projects that can work separately, such as lxpanel or xfce4-panel.

YOu don't need gnome per-say to build Cinnamon. It has forked the window-manager of GNOME3 (mutter --> muffin, they rebase against mutter to get new shinies), they then just adapted it to provide a "traditional layout". It does use some of the gnome services though_________________The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter
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Cinnamon-1.8 just released. Tons of new improvements and features, and you no longer need to use gnome-control-center. Also, Cinnamon no longer uses gnome-session for fallback, and now has so-called “Desklets.”

KDE calls them Plasmoids, Android calls them Widgets, in Cinnamon they’re called “Desklets”. The same way you can add applets to your panel, you can add desklets to your desktop.

Mint 13 is the LTS, so the focus would be primarily on getting a great Mint 15 release and then on backporting to Mint 13. After that we can look into backporting to Mint 14… we’ve got an automated build system for this, but it comes down to focus and testing, no promises here.

With that said, it’s likely to get into Romeo, for both Maya and Nadia, once 1.8.0 is out and prior to Mint 15 being released.

As far as I understood, cinnamon 1.8 will not be in public access until Mint15-RC out (it should be this month). At least officially. Mint15 RC is their main goal, not a backporting to Mint 13/14.
So we have to wait...

Cinnamon and it's source was publicly released, you will have to more than likely write your own ebuild but make sure you find all it's dependencies and there version numbers (make sure they're even available in the portage tree) cinnamon 1.8.1 is already under arch linux.

Cinnamon and it's source was publicly released, you will have to more than likely write your own ebuild but make sure you find all it's dependencies and there version numbers (make sure they're even available in the portage tree) cinnamon 1.8.1 is already under arch linux.

Yes, I got it (1.8.1) in my Arch today with last update. It is exactly the same cinnamon that I had before update - 1.6.7. All the new things (new Control Center, desklets, Nemo's switchable side panel, filesystems free space bar) I had in 1.6.7. The only thing was changed - "About" menu shows now 1.8.0 instead 1.6.7. It is just renaming.
I'm not experienced in ebuilds, so I think it appears in portage tree faster than I can build it myself

Cinnamon 1.8 represents 7 months of development and 1,075 commits. It features a lot of bug fixes but also brand new features and many improvements

is just just a bunch of hype, and that it really is just a rename?

FWIW, I find that difficult to believe, unless the first Arch Linux package they put out hasn't implemented some the the changes yet, which also having run Arch for many years I also find it difficult to believe. Of course I could be wrong._________________Main box- Gigabyte GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ rev.-4.0
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Yes, I put it wrong. Of course, a lot of fixes was put in latest update. Above I wrote about visible GUI changes. I did not noticed any visible changes from 1.6.7 to 1.8.1.
Not surprisingly that new things were available in 1.6.7. I think it was a test bed for 1.8.1.

This is a live ebuild I managed to get it running with practically 0 edits to the 1.6 ebuild, now I did remove version numbers and updated them or left them alone but the ebuild works and is pretty stable.

if ! has_version '>=media-libs/gst-plugins-good-0.10.23:0.10' || \
! has_version 'media-plugins/gst-plugins-vp8:0.10'; then
ewarn "To make use of Cinnamon's built-in screen recording utility,"
ewarn "you need to either install >=media-libs/gst-plugins-good-0.10.23:0.10"
ewarn "and media-plugins/gst-plugins-vp8:0.10, or use dconf-editor to change"
ewarn "org.cinnamon.recorder/pipeline to what you want to use."
fi

if ! has_version ">=x11-base/xorg-server-1.11"; then
ewarn "If you use multiple screens, it is highly recommended that you"
ewarn "upgrade to >=x11-base/xorg-server-1.11 to be able to make use of"
ewarn "pointer barriers which will make it easier to use hot corners."
fi

if has_version "<x11-drivers/ati-drivers-12"; then
ewarn "Cinnamon has been reported to show graphical corruption under"
ewarn "x11-drivers/ati-drivers-11.*; you may want to use GNOME in"
ewarn "fallback mode, or switch to open-source drivers."
fi

These ebuilds are better. it also have the new cinnamon controlcentre and ss. Been using these ebuilds for a couple of weeks now. works really well_________________The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter
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