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I'm all for a heavyweight on the 4th line, we dont' need 4 scoring lines its not an all star game. I really liked staubitz he could skate fast enough to keep up

I don't consider Staubitz an heavy weight by any means, though. Drew a fight against Prust earlier in his career and isn't half the player Prusty is. I'm also all for an heavyweight, but once again, it has to be the right fit. Thornton in Boston was a fit made in heaven. There aren't many teams that stick with their HW for too long, since it's a particular job that requires the perfect fit for the reality of your team.

Don't talk about Bordeleau here, 90% of peoples will tell you that he can't skate just because is 6"5 and 240lbs even if they don't know who it is

He can't.

Oh wait, he scored against Hamilton, he must be good.

Matt Kassian scored twice against the habs and I wouldn't touch that inept **** with a twenty-foot pole.

What did Parros do to us ? What did the big John Scott do against us ?

Next you'll be advocating to get Kevin "I'm a pacifist" Westgarth.

It's great to want toughness, but you need skill to go with that toughness. Otherwise, why not scour the beer leagues for the biggest, meanest, craziest mother ****er you can find ? I'm sure he'd take on Bordeleau before and after he destroys a 2-4 of his preferred cheap beer.

Prust is not the best fighter out there but he still lead the nhl this year with 4 fights and led the nhl last year with 20 fights.

He was the enforcer of the rangers and i don't remember anyone saying the rangers are soft.

Prust and White are not scared to drop the gloves with anyone so is Moen right now. I think i prefer to have White and Prust that can actually play some hockey and fight when the time is needed than start a liability for 5 minutes per game and get our top forward to play more than they should and get tired.

Who is the enforcer of the flyers? Are they soft? What about the rangers? Asham? At this point Prust is better than Asham.

If a team like the Rangers, who have been celebrating their new found toughness over the past few years thinks Rupp is past it, what does that tell you? Rupp used to be solid, but a Rupp having lost a step..

Every player has a value to a team. The wise Rangers management undervalued Prust. Yet they are very competent for dumping Rupp because you don't like fighting.

I love this thread

I really don't know why I even bother responding to you when you just change the subject and bring in straw men every time. It's a waste of time.

The Rangers were making some big trade for Nash and needed ever dollar they can get. They assumed (wisely or not wisely, we don't know yet but it looks like Prust's loss is felt) that they had enough toughness and could get by with the cheaper Asham and Haley to take Prust's place. The Rangers have plenty of energy players.

I don't get what this has anything to do with them trading Rupp, a fan favorite, for spare parts. I don't dislike fighting, I dislike obsessing over weight classes like this is UFC, fighting in hockey should break out when something happens, not be planned in advance. And the Rupp of a few years ago would be a good fit for a 13th forward, but apparently he's a shell of himself. It's the useless plugs who belong on the wrestling circuit or in a beet league that I dislike, guys like Scott.

it is amazing how people just want someone who can fight!
It's still hockey! the guy is still going to play 8-13 minutes a game, he needs to be able to contribute apart from fighting....and the guys that do play well and scrap are expensive....ask Nashville.

Prust, White, Moen fit the bill nicely
I wouldn't give up Prust from what i've seen in this young season for anything
When You have 3 guys that can drop the gloves, and a few more guys willing to throw the body around, you don't need a bona fide heavyweight. You are considered to be a tough team.
We're developing a team identity different from what its been in recent years - lets see where they get to.

Matt Kassian scored twice against the habs and I wouldn't touch that inept **** with a twenty-foot pole.

What did Parros do to us ? What did the big John Scott do against us ?

Next you'll be advocating to get Kevin "I'm a pacifist" Westgarth.

It's great to want toughness, but you need skill to go with that toughness. Otherwise, why not scour the beer leagues for the biggest, meanest, craziest mother ****er you can find ? I'm sure he'd take on Bordeleau before and after he destroys a 2-4 of his preferred cheap beer.

Prust is not the best fighter out there but he still lead the nhl this year with 4 fights and led the nhl last year with 20 fights.

He was the enforcer of the rangers and i don't remember anyone saying the rangers are soft.

Prust and White are not scared to drop the gloves with anyone so is Moen right now. I think i prefer to have White and Prust that can actually play some hockey and fight when the time is needed than start a liability for 5 minutes per game and get our top forward to play more than they should and get tired.

Who is the enforcer of the flyers? Are they soft? What about the rangers? Asham? At this point Prust is better than Asham.

no, its Boll with 6
yes, the flyers are really soft this year
for the rangers, Rupp was their enforcer and now, they just called-up Mashinter.So they have him, Bickell and Asham

Prust is not the best fighter out there but he still lead the nhl this year with 4 fights and led the nhl last year with 20 fights.

He was the enforcer of the rangers and i don't remember anyone saying the rangers are soft.

Prust and White are not scared to drop the gloves with anyone so is Moen right now. I think i prefer to have White and Prust that can actually play some hockey and fight when the time is needed than start a liability for 5 minutes per game and get our top forward to play more than they should and get tired.

Who is the enforcer of the flyers? Are they soft? What about the rangers? Asham? At this point Prust is better than Asham.

Do you mean better player or fighter ? Because I still believe Asham is the best fighter in this league, if he had a bigger frame he'd be damn unbeatable.
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All in all, we are a tough team and a skilled team and I like it we have one or two sofff individuals on this team like Mr. Kaberle and (for now) Diaz...
The rest of the team can be considered tough. Even if they don't fight.

I really don't know why I even bother responding to you when you just change the subject and bring in straw men every time. It's a waste of time.

The Rangers were making some big trade for Nash and needed ever dollar they can get. They assumed (wisely or not wisely, we don't know yet but it looks like Prust's loss is felt) that they had enough toughness and could get by with the cheaper Asham and Haley to take Prust's place. The Rangers have plenty of energy players.

I don't get what this has anything to do with them trading Rupp, a fan favorite, for spare parts. I don't dislike fighting, I dislike obsessing over weight classes like this is UFC, fighting in hockey should break out when something happens, not be planned in advance. And the Rupp of a few years ago would be a good fit for a 13th forward, but apparently he's a shell of himself. It's the useless plugs who belong on the wrestling circuit or in a beet league that I dislike, guys like Scott.

Scott plays his role perfectly, whether on the ice or in the pressbox.

Watch the last few seconds of the Sabres/Bruins game if you do not understand.

i think rags called up mashinter to play with asham and bickell. i like our team toughness but now that prust has become a top 9 forward and integral to PK i don't like the fact he's always getting jumped by other teams tough guys and being forced to fight...i like white in there but he nor moen should be forced to go with guys that are considered goons

i think rags called up mashinter to play with asham and bickell. i like our team toughness but now that prust has become a top 9 forward and integral to PK i don't like the fact he's always getting jumped by other teams tough guys and being forced to fight...i like white in there but he nor moen should be forced to go with guys that are considered goons

Feel the same exact way...I like our team toughness but I don't like BIG/HUGE GOONS going after our Prust, White, Moen,etc...

We need one BIG/HUGE goon like Scott only against teams like Boston.
(this way...Prust and Moen can concentrate on hockey).

Probably hard to believe...but I'm a pacifist! (I'd take a huge/goon who is there to police...never has to fight but does his job as a policeman...fights only when other team breaks the rules).