Had it on very good authority that Gabbidon didn’t know the full story, and the original tweet by Bingham is closer to the truth, Sullivan has also fed C&H their version in order to spin the situation, looks like first assumptions may of been right

Firstly - its not some anonymous account - the guy has his own website, and its been going for years.He allegedly speaks a lot to Ginge, and is adamant that he was not told verbally b4 receiving the email and letter.The reason I am inclined to believe his account is that he is often denigrated as a board 'plant' ( take a look at KUMB !), and it is totally out of character for him to disagree with the club PR.

The guy that BBB shows the tweet for has had messages with Collins and Gabbidon today. He doesn’t know what Gabbidon “was playing at”

He’s often accused of being “pro board” today he’s received flack for going against them from some people.

I’ve had personal messages with him today, the board didn’t speak to Collins before the email, he’d been trying to get their attention for months about his situation with no luck, there are doubts whether anyone spoke to him after the email, instead Sully has fed C&H a story to dampen it down

Yes there were problems over the timing and the PL list etc, but this could’ve been handled so much better really

I’m going to carry on believing Gabbidon, who probably had it from his very good friend, James Collins.

I doubt we’d ever get to the bottom of it, but I’d say you’ve gone to the wrong side ;biggrin

What are you talking about? I've gone to the wrong side because I believe Gabbidon, who is good friends with James Collins, over some randomer on Twitter who is legitimate because he 'has his own website' (wow).

Don't expect me or anybody else to believe some messages you've apparently had with somebody else who hates the board and who also obviously wants to vilify them every second of the day, either when there is no evidence (bad enough) for what the board/club have apparently done, or when there is directly contravening evidence from a former player and good friend of the player in question (worse still).

What does it add to this forum to keep propagating unsubstantiated conspiracy theories against the board? It doesn't open up a discussion because it's all things you've heard or seen elsewhere, things you won't prove or corroborate, so nobody can even discuss it.

All we end up doing is saying 'If this really out of order thing was done then it was really out of order', and then other people have to come back and say 'But did it actually happen?' and we go in a pointless, dull circle.

It's boring and it's ruined this forum for me. I loved this club because I loved the crowd when I first went as a kid. Now I think we have the worse fanbase in the country, both in the stadium, on social media and even on forums like this, which used to be a great, family place to be, but is now home to people who's main intent seems to be to perpetuate the fractious atmosphere and negativity dividing the whole club.

I’ll reply if I want to, whether you read it or not, why should I just let you have a rant about ME and not defend myself?

You believ Danny Gabbidon, that’s fine nobody said you couldn’t did they? I actually didn’t believe Bigham at first, because there were conflicting reports which seemed justified.

Messages I’ve “apparently had”, so you’ve got nothing except a public tweet, I’ve got messages from a source very close to Collins, but you’re having a bit of a pop at me? How does that work exactly?

Who else hates the board? ExWhu? Completely the opposite Jorderz he gets flack because most believe that he’s a board stooge, so I’m not sure where you’re going with that bit? Also I said earlier if they didn’t do what was alleged I’d say so, I’ll alway call out the positives when they happen, trouble is they’ve made more mistakes than anyone cares to mention.

Who said nobody could discuss it? Think you’re mixing that up with disagreeing or having a different opinion?

Sorry you feel that way and this forum has contributed to that, bottom line for me, the club have been a PR mess pretty much since day 1 and let’s face it they’ve got plenty of history on this front. Also this forum has been a discussion place since day 1, disagreements and opinions.

You’ve got an opinion, it’s fine, I’ve got one based on some info that has been shared with me by someone who is close to what has happened etc

Can I just add, even if I did share screen shots of what I was told, on here then it wouldn’t make any different to anyone’s opinion they’d still side with that they felt. All it would do is confirm I was told something by someone that was supposed to be close to all this stuff

The club aka the team I've supported all my life should have woke up and smell the roses......Another year contract and ambassador role would have reallyHurt the budget ... I don't think......For Pete's sake make a feel good stance for a change.........allIMO

Jorderz said : "Don't expect me or anybody else to believe some messages you've apparently had with somebody else who hates the board and who also obviously wants to vilify them every second of the day, "

Jorderz - have you ever read EX WHU's column/Website/Tweets ?It appears not.He is one of the most 'pro board' contributors on social media, with very good contacts at the club. He even gets to tweet team news on match days (much to every body' disgust).

In all honesty, I don’t agree with the drama about him not getting an extension. He is normally the 4th choice CB, 3rd at best, and the day will come at some point when he will say farewell to us. Whether now, in a year, 2 years or whatever. He also isn’t exactly always available to contribute, and given he is never first choice, picks up a hell of a lot of injuries.

But there are ways to go about doing things and I hope this was done correctly. If he has been released, I wish him all the best and thanks Ginge for all your efforts.

Signing on Collins to another year would've recieved positive press from the fans....dunno how the board couldn't see that

Now they have to deal with the fallout

Like Luke says from a purely footballing standpoint Collins isn't a first teamer anymore nor injury free or young, but you can only imagine his wages are on the low side and he's a great leader and fan favorite...the deal isn't a huge commitment and it has seem to gone about as wrong as it possibly could