hey, what do you mean 'ALMOST'? <img src=pix/jestera.gif border=0 align=middle>

Renato

<hr><i>If you read this line, remember not the hand that wrote it
Remember only the verse, songmaker`s cry, the one without tears
For I`ve given this its strength and it has become my only strength.</i>

Well, having downloaded and listened to each incarnation that has been posted, I must say Congratulations to EVERYONE involved, and especially to Ed for an absolutely wonderful job editing everyone in and getting it to sound, to this untrained ear, relatively seamless! I know that there's more to be done, but it's been fascinating to listen to a work in progress and hearing it evolve.. gives me a much greater appreciation for the engineering and production roles of creating the tunes the majority of us take for granted. I know I had no idea of the extent to which these things can change a recording, and kept forgetting that I was listening to a final product. Kinda makes me think twice about some of my uneducated judgemental statements I've made in the past about various songs that haven't "tripped my trigger", so to speak. Ignorance isn't a bad thing, provided it's cured with education... thanks for educating me, Ed and all that have been involved in this, even if that education was in a roundabout way (pun intended)......

Fantastic, well done you all!! and special thanks to Ed ofcourse!!
ST has become one of my favorite songs. Especially since I've heard it live in the Yes symphonic tour in Amsterdam 2001. And its on the Yes symphonic tour DVD, wich was recorded there, as well.
The big fan Jon refers to as the one who persuaded him to play ST, was me actually ;-))

<font color=red><font face='Papyrus'>This is really fine stuff here folks. You are all to be commended for your efforts. Though I haven't participated, hopefully you folks will accept this simple observation as constructive criticism. There is an obvious drag in the movement beginning with "Speak to me of summer"---1st time around. I think it's one of the guitars. Of course, you guys can all tell me to go to hell and I'll take that and run with it. Consider this just one man's perspective.</font id='Papyrus'></font id=red><img src=pix/icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Ed, did you ever add the rest of my guitar (as per the original post)? I only ask because I haven't downloaded the MP3 yet - 12 MB is a LONG time when you're on dialup! <img src=pix/silly.gif border=0 align=middle>
Looking forward to listening to it! <img src=pix/icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

Ed, did you ever add the rest of my guitar (as per the original post)? I only ask because I haven't downloaded the MP3 yet - 12 MB is a LONG time when you're on dialup! <img src=pix/silly.gif border=0 align=middle>
Looking forward to listening to it! <img src=pix/icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>
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<hr><i>If you read this line, remember not the hand that wrote it
Remember only the verse, songmaker`s cry, the one without tears
For I`ve given this its strength and it has become my only strength.</i>

are you hearing the Hell's Bells? <img src=pix/jestera.gif border=0 align=middle>

Renato

<hr><i>If you read this line, remember not the hand that wrote it
Remember only the verse, songmaker`s cry, the one without tears
For I`ve given this its strength and it has become my only strength.</i>

<hr><i>If you read this line, remember not the hand that wrote it
Remember only the verse, songmaker`s cry, the one without tears
For I`ve given this its strength and it has become my only strength.</i>

We used midi because its easier to record your own part in cubase, you can let the midi play along and record your part at the same time.
You can, ofcourse, take the drumtrack out whitch would be impossible in an audio track.
We had to be very accurate with timing, it all had to fit in the mix and nothing beats the midi there!

I have to in a way disagree with ya'll there......I fined that midi files are lacking in "ghost notes" especially with the snare drum. As well, they are transduced from the original source and therefore have "flaws" in many places in the score(tracks) and totaly lack organic feel..If we just used the original studio tracks(bounce to mono) as the source and start with the drums then pass the session to the bass then to the guitar then keys, human voice's.....what we will end up with is a far superior product in the end.

Plus, you menssion useing cubass....if everyone is useing cubass or cakewalk or logic then that means everyone can do a mixdown in the end....not just Ed. Then well all Vote on witch Mix is the best and there we have it......

I believe we should post all trackfiles for all involved to take into consideration.

Also, It should be noted that I've tryed both ways(midi scratch/studiotrack) many many many many times.

Hammer, Thank you for your reply.

HAMMAR wrote:Can I answer this??

We used midi because its easier to record your own part in cubase, you can let the midi play along and record your part at the same time.You can, ofcourse, take the drumtrack out whitch would be impossible in an audio track.We had to be very accurate with timing, it all had to fit in the mix and nothing beats the midi there!

SOUTHSIDEGUY wrote:If we could possibly get aholed of highquality miditracks that actually sync up with the original stereo 16bit 44.1kH studio cuts.......MmHmm.

That way we could do this both ways....and there'by fit to everyones studio setups.

Hey though, I'm not really opposed to tracking with a sequencer playing the score. Nope, I would do it anyway Ed likes on his projects.....Oh, and your project too for that matter Hammer.

If I have an audio file to work with (AIFF or WAV) and I fit what I'm playhing over it exactly, and send it as a stand alone stereo file,then it should sync up to any original AIFF or WAV I'm sent, right?
I'm not too interested in playing with a MIDI file because, 1. I don't have anything set up to play it and 2. I'd rather play based on real performances that I can hear.
The trouble with going from the original studio track either with midi or even just playing along with the recording is that it negates any possibilities of some VARIETY. I'm all for being true to the original, but if you want an exact clone, what's the point? Why not just listen to the record?
Just my two cents.

Just found this and listened in. What a great project, and what a great job you all have done.Best wishes towards more work - since it's July you must be ready to release the next song, right? <grin>.Where are you all located?Jimmy JonesStafford VA

jimj1s wrote:Just found this and listened in. What a great project, and what a great job you all have done.Best wishes towards more work - since it's July you must be ready to release the next song, right? <grin>.Where are you all located?Jimmy JonesStafford VA

Klatu and I are working on And You And I but we could use some help.We need drums, bass and steel guitar. It's been almost impossible to get anything rolling. A few of us have been trying to get the next song rolling for two and a half years now!

we bailed when we started getting plays on the PRRN stations,the gagliarchives, the Rradionetwork.i see the station mgrs. as that vetting system we discussedback when at 1sound.

if you haven't heard, i'm no longer solo. the current lineup consists of a bunch of guys i'm sure you remember,steve hall of the questionnaires on guitars, von babasin de ONOFFONon bass, and recently we added joel kelly on vocs.if you get a chance, check out the 1st full band tune "majiker".it's as close to classic prog as you'll find in OMD land IMO.

if you guys need a hand w/ keys or production on "and you and I",give a yell.

kirk wrote:terry- long time no see! are you still posting music to the OMDs?

we bailed when we started getting plays on the PRRN stations,the gagliarchives, the Rradionetwork.i see the station mgrs. as that vetting system we discussedback when at 1sound.

if you haven't heard, i'm no longer solo. the current lineup consists of a bunch of guys i'm sure you remember,steve hall of the questionnaires on guitars, von babasin de ONOFFONon bass, and recently we added joel kelly on vocs.if you get a chance, check out the 1st full band tune "majiker".it's as close to classic prog as you'll find in OMD land IMO.

if you guys need a hand w/ keys or production on "and you and I",give a yell.

kirk/zenpool

Thanks Kirk. What we really need are drums, bass and a steel guitar player. I'm sure we could use your production talents though since I don't have any.

Great job guys. very nice indeed.I often cast out a net , searching for like minded musicians in the south east of the UK with a view to playing some of this glorious yes music but alas , the net always returns empty...

Loving the grand finale to the song you guys did...yes it rocks...fine job all round

I just found this site last night and the virtual band is super. I have followed Yes since the late 60's and was in the first band i Washington DC that played a few yes songs. I have been playing drums since I was 13 and would love to participate in the virtual band if possible. Let me know.