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10-26-2012 11:41 PM

chevy302builder18

Thanks everyone for replying. Ive learned more in this thread than you could even imagine.

10-26-2012 10:03 AM

PatM

But, it's calculated based on ft lbs of torque produced while running. Dynos measure torque, tachs measure rpm. The math gets done. HP is entirely dependanton two variables. The torque being produced, and the engine speed in RPM. It's a math thing.

PatM

10-26-2012 07:47 AM

ap72

Quote:

Originally Posted by E.Furgal

thats because hp that we think of is nothing more than a math formula..
not what that engine can do..
I'm willing to bet a 160hp engine can't pull 1/3rd what 160 horses could..
if it could you'd snap the chain(most front drive cars) or gear teeth everytime it shifted gears at wot at hp peak..

um... HP is NOT a math formula. Its a very real metric used for measuring power. It was originally defined off of the work a horse could do and is an entirely accurate means of represent the power an engine makes.

10-26-2012 07:43 AM

ap72

Quote:

Originally Posted by chevy302builder18

Ive also noticed something very intresting, what Techinspector has pointed out and many other dyno guys on this site, is on the kinda of engine were talking about and big block chevy,(idk if this is true for other engines like ford, dodge ect.) that at 5252RPMs peak torque meets horsepower. intriuging as it is id like to save that topic for another thread involving V.E and other things that could cotribute to this rule of horsepower and torque 5252 rpms

the 5252 has absolutely no significance. Its just a math forumula. If it bothers you that much just use metric measurements instead of standard.

thats because hp that we think of is nothing more than a math formula..
not what that engine can do..
I'm willing to bet a 160hp engine can't pull 1/3rd what 160 horses could..
if it could you'd snap the chain(most front drive cars) or gear teeth everytime it shifted gears at wot at hp peak..

10-26-2012 03:30 AM

chevy302builder18

Quote:

Originally Posted by E.Furgal

thread started with asking about a 350 now it's a 406?

Well if you look at the first post it was a friend, and i was confused about his tail of a 570 carb on a 350. and he said somethings pertaining to cfm size and you guys went on and forgot i still have a block sitting, still in current construction of a 406. Theres been many delays on this engine build, been waiting patiently and id like to have it built by this upcoming spring. LOL if it wanst for my stupidity, i wouldnt have to get this thing line honed and line bored. As you can see im still learning each and everyday and the thirst for knowledge is instilled based off the laws and phsysics of every piece of the engine and what it does. so you can say im a big newton fan. And a guy looking to have some fun by the end of the build.
Ive also noticed something very intresting, what Techinspector has pointed out and many other dyno guys on this site, is on the kinda of engine were talking about and big block chevy,(idk if this is true for other engines like ford, dodge ect.) that at 5252RPMs peak torque meets horsepower. intriuging as it is id like to save that topic for another thread involving V.E and other things that could cotribute to this rule of horsepower and torque 5252 rpms

10-25-2012 05:00 AM

E.Furgal

thread started with asking about a 350 now it's a 406?

10-25-2012 01:29 AM

chevy302builder18

Quote:

Originally Posted by ap72

a 750 carb on a mild 406 is typically just fine. If its a street engine consider running vacuum secondaries.

Thats exactly what im thinking now that this virtual dyno i have does the V.E calculater. the carb im looking at is quick fuels slayer 750 model

10-24-2012 08:46 AM

ap72

Quote:

Originally Posted by chevy302builder18

Thanks for the responses, im definatly going with a 750 on my 406 cubic inch. it that doesnt make 87% V.E what other alternatives would there be?

a 750 carb on a mild 406 is typically just fine. If its a street engine consider running vacuum secondaries.

10-24-2012 08:30 AM

chevy302builder18

Thanks for the responses, im definatly going with a 750 on my 406 cubic inch. it that doesnt make 87% V.E what other alternatives would there be?

10-23-2012 09:22 PM

vinniekq2

390 carbed roundy round cars used longer duration on the intake side.non restricted engines in the same cars made a lot more horse power. My slightly larger carb on my engine works well,even though I only use 3.5 gears and probably too big of cam in most peoples opinions

10-23-2012 09:15 PM

E.Furgal

358cids with 390 carbs, made so much power they added plates to slow the cars..
there is tons more to it than just stabing a 750 on a 350 and calling it good.

10-23-2012 09:07 PM

bygddy

Quote:

Originally Posted by E.Furgal

not really, as most don't get anywhere near 90%

I wasn't arguing its merit as admittedly its over my head......it was funny tho....you gotta admit.....and if his combo is figured out and needs, and makes more power with a big Carb....then the bottom line is, on the whole....the bigger Carb will outperform the littler one!

10-23-2012 09:02 PM

bygddy

All I know is,
350,
Alum heads, 10.5:1
525/525
Air gap
Long tubes
It ran fantastic with a BG 650
I swaped to a BG 750
It went 2 tenths faster
Consistantly..
Yes it gave up some low speed response.
But it went 1.6 MPH faster almost every time.....

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