Winkle wrote:Well it can drop PvP gear too, it's basically the new TB.

Yeah, I just wasn't sure how the bag thing worked (for pve gear) since I haven't done LFR. I was curious as to whether or not the loot in the bag took into account your current spec or offspec.

Won two items in actual raid in beta and both were for the spec in use, might have been chance, or could be that proper raids give you spec gear while world bosses behave like the pvp bosses they are and give any random piece of gear that you can equip.

Sha is suppose to be like LFR loot from what I understood, and LFR loot is not specc specific.Unless theres a bluepost confirming its only suppose to give you what you are currently specced at (that i missed) I see no reason to think its not the same system.For using the coins however, people are saying that IS specc specific, and so far none i know have gotten loot for the "wrong" specc in that, but Im still not convinced.Maybe it has higher chance to be your specc, maybe it always had we just didnt think about it.

you have to manually loot it, I know many who either forgot about it, or couldnt loot it cause the item was "busy", since 40people trying to loot at once.However it should drop every time untill youve completed it.

Using gold coins on sha can be a big gamble, since it can give you everything from PvP loot to tier, tier however wont be available for another 4weeks, so its very tempting to use them now on sha, but I think its going to be a lot more usefull in heroic raids, using on a boss you are missing a significant item from.

From what I've read, the charms give you a "small but not miniscule" chance at extra gear. Is that right? Because reading some posts, it sounds like several of you got lucky or is the chance not so small?

It's a pretty solid chance in a normal raid. My guess is that it's a lower chance on world bosses and Heroic raids, but higher in LFR. We won't really be able to tell unless they say so or the wowhead client finds a way to collect the relevant effective drop rates.

Treck wrote:Sha is suppose to be like LFR loot from what I understood, and LFR loot is not specc specific.Unless theres a bluepost confirming its only suppose to give you what you are currently specced at (that i missed) I see no reason to think its not the same system.For using the coins however, people are saying that IS specc specific, and so far none i know have gotten loot for the "wrong" specc in that, but Im still not convinced.Maybe it has higher chance to be your specc, maybe it always had we just didnt think about it.

Actually it is spec specific I believe. I don't think there's been a revision since the March Dev Watercooler which said:

"For each player who wins loot, the game randomly assigns them a spec-appropriate item from that boss’s loot table. This subset contains only items that the game (meaning the designers in this case) thinks are appropriate for your class and current spec."

Now they were talking about LFR there, and didn't expressly say that it was identical for the world boss implementations of the system, but I believe it's meant to be identical(?). He went on to talk about it not being an appropriate avenue for offspec or transmog gear.

The PVP gear is invariably arguable. I spose the ret pants are great prot stats, you'd just assume they're offspec prettymuch by definition. And the in-game loot list says we can get ret legs, prot legs & prot hands, but we can't get ret hands (crit/exp)... so they may be doing it by appropriate secondaries + pvp gear. But that's pretty broad definition of "spec-appropriate"

But the t13 look is just flat out weird.

PS. Remember that the gold coins are a weekly quest of 90 silver -> 3 gold, and you can only have a max of 10 gold coins. So you'll need to find something to spend at least a couple on early.

Lakhesis are you talking about extra loot rolls or just regular drops from Sha?

If you are referring to regular loot from Sha drops, then I can assure you that I got ret gloves while prot specced. I do not consider a ret item a spec appropriate item when my main spec is prot and my os is holy.

Nikachelle wrote:Lakhesis are you talking about extra loot rolls or just regular drops from Sha?

If you are referring to regular loot from Sha drops, then I can assure you that I got ret gloves while prot specced. I do not consider a ret item a spec appropriate item when my main spec is prot and my os is holy.

Ret tier gloves? Or non-tier gloves? Because I could see them coding prot being eligible for anything with some combination of hit/exp/haste/mastery (basically, anything that doesn't have crit).

A friend of mine just got ret legs while specced prot from normal loot... The stats are actually awesome for prot, but still.

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Nikachelle wrote:Lakhesis are you talking about extra loot rolls or just regular drops from Sha?

If you are referring to regular loot from Sha drops, then I can assure you that I got ret gloves while prot specced. I do not consider a ret item a spec appropriate item when my main spec is prot and my os is holy.

I'm talking about the regular drops from Sha, not extra rolls. My experience with the ret legs was exactly identical to yours.

The loot list I'm referring to is the Dungeon Journal loot table on my tankadin, with it set to show Protection gear.

But it doesn't include the Ret Gloves - did you get them as well as the pants? I can vaguely understand the ret pants, but the ret tier gloves dropping for prot would just be silly imo. Not a fan of off-spec or pvp drops, although I can understand why they might try to make Sha's loot table broader & more mediocre.