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My heart goes out to the families that lost their children, I used the title to bring attention to the fact, that this is what was predicted and has now happened. I cant even imagine and dont want to, how they are grieving a loss of a child.

If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
what will you do now to prove you are not stupid?

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas

"They who can who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve niether liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin

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Even with Washington gun laws it wouldn't have stopped him. Guns aren't allowed in primary and secondary schools.

Whenever i watching a horror movie now i think "Movie'd be alot shorter if the first victim had a CPL."

Tragic event, to send off your child to a supposedly safe place to learn..

In washington, The headline would read "Man shoots 28...
Point I was making is there will always be sick, MF'ers that will kill. How they kill will be determined by what is made available to them, take away guns and they kill with knives. There was even (for some reason) a security gaurd there. I still dont understand the reason for UN armed security gaurds. If they are unarmed, they are just an audience.

Look at virginia tech, 32 shot with a 22 and 9mm. 1 armed teacher and it might have only been 2.

If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
what will you do now to prove you are not stupid?

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas

"They who can who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve niether liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin

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nofoa wrote:

Even with Washington gun laws it wouldn't have stopped him. Guns aren't allowed in primary and secondary schools.

Not on my watch if I had something to do with it. If I was outside of the elementary school picking up my kids and there was a mad-person running around stabbing kids...he would not leave the scene in anything but a body bag if I had the opportunity--regardless of it being in a school or not.

I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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Was that photo reversed left for right, or have they developed a new left ejecting pistol?

MD

They are on the opposite side of the world.

This is horrific, I read too where they are trying to blame China's more lax rules toward capitalism.

I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
"Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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"a man broke into a primary school in eastern china on Friday and beat five preschool children with a hammer before setting himself afire, the state-run Xinhua news agency reported. "

I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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And this is who our president bows down to.

If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
what will you do now to prove you are not stupid?

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas

"They who can who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve niether liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin

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amzbrady wrote:

And this is who our president bows down to.

**I removed my response** I am not going to helpany trollstake over a thread with political BS that is regurgitated fromFOX news.

I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
what will you do now to prove you are not stupid?

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas

"They who can who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve niether liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin

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Aside from the overtly political article you just sent me--are you arguing the Chinesehaving 1 Trillion US dollars debtapproximateand Chinamen stabbing young children have some sort of correlation?

NO, I do not believe that Chinamen stabbing school children and US national debt have anything to do with one another I also do not believe that overtly partisan articles have anything to do with Chinese school children being stabbed either.

Overtly partisan articles have more to do with stupification through misinformation of some fringe elements within America.

Chinahasto be forced to readjust its currency to reflect the reality of its market. The US and the world perpetuate currencysuppression by the Chinese by not responding forcefully to currency manipulation. America has lost manurfacturing jobs, especially under Bush because of this manipulation (there are a number of other reasons why jobs have went overseas). Personally I think that anything China sends over here for American consumption should be met with a tax greater than it would cost to just manufacture the items here in the US by American workers.

I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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are you arguing the Chinesehaving 1 Trillion US dollars debtapproximateand Chinamen stabbing young children have some sort of correlation?

No, not really, maybe, kinda. Just that Obama who is using the govt to controll the US citizens, like China does, given the Chance might one day during his term, decide to inact a complete gun ban.

NO, I do not believe that Chinamen stabbing school children and US national debt have anything to do with one another I also do not believe that overtly partisan articles have anything to do with Chinese school children being stabbed either.

Good

America has lost manurfacturing jobs, especially under Bush because of this manipulation (there are a number of other reasons why jobs have went overseas). Personally I think that anything China sends over here for American consumption should be met with a tax greater than it would cost to just manufacture the items here in the US by American workers.

I agree, Although Bush is not our president any longer. Obama is, and he is making his own mistakes. He needs to stop unjustified spending. That is not an issue for the open carry site. I simply was stating that "No guns in china and they find other things to kill with". "Obama is odopting other countries ideas that dont work in other countries (health care)". "china is gunless and some would like to see our country gunless". "Obama came from Illinois which is also very controlled when it comes to guns"

I may not articulate my thoughts as well as others.

I do see a pattern in your personal politically aimed attacks. I may be wrong.

My thoughts are just that, they are not directly aimed at anyone on this forum. If I do not agree with something I comment on IT. If I do not agree with someone, I politelty say so or move on. (At least I think I do).

Sry to everyone else.

Back on track...

Guns = personal protection... Gun bans = death

If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
what will you do now to prove you are not stupid?

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas

"They who can who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve niether liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin

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"Guns = personal protection... Gun bans = death"

We all agree (I am guessing) that gun bans are unacceptable. Since the beginning of (wo)mankind humans have deprived or sought to deprive other humans of the means to effective and efficient forms of self-defense.

I do not believe that this administration is going to move to any form of gun ban or restrictions. If I am wrong, we will find out eventually but I whole heartedly believe that all politicians are political animals and are about self-preservation and banning firearms would destroy their political future.

America is IMO is tipping center-left (gay-marriage, national healthcare) in a number of areas with the exception of firearms and abortion IMO. Firearms and abortion are tilting more to the right IMO.

If you think that we are anything like China you need to reevaluate the country you live in and study up. We are not even close to China and would descent into civil war if there was a Chinaesque move on the governments part...it would be extremely violent. I guaratee there would be one think the majority, left, right, center would stand together on and fight is a government moving towards Communism such as they have in China.

I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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Sylvia Plath wrote:

SNIP

"Guns = personal protection... Gun bans = death"

I do not believe that this administration is going to move to any form of gun ban or restrictions. If I am wrong, we will find out eventually but I whole heartedly believe that all politicians are political animals and are about self-preservation and banning firearms would destroy their political future.

If you think that we are anything like China you need to reevaluate the country you live in and study up. We are not even close to China and would descent into civil war if there was a Chinaesque move on the governments part...it would be extremely violent. I guaratee there would be one think the majority, left, right, center would stand together on and fight is a government moving towards Communism such as they have in China.

I did not at any time say we that we are like China, in fact I made it very clear, that I am against everything that is being done to try to control us, like it is in China. I thought I made it an easy read. Let me try again...

I no want be like China, China bad. Obama bad. No take my gun, gun good, bad people bad. New government bad. :*)

If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
what will you do now to prove you are not stupid?

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas

"They who can who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve niether liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin

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Even with Washington gun laws it wouldn't have stopped him. Guns aren't allowed in primary and secondary schools.

Whenever i watching a horror movie now i think "Movie'd be alot shorter if the first victim had a CPL."

Tragic event, to send off your child to a supposedly safe place to learn..

I doubt it. Did you watch Rob Zombie's Halloween II? One of Michael's victims had a gun, and was at about a 20 foot distance from Michael as he came in the door. What does the victim do? Shoot him from a safe distance? Nope! He RAN at him and tried to HIT HIM with the gun!!! That's right. He didn't even fire a single shot. He ran AFTER him with the gun, and tried hitting him with it.

You could give a person the best weapon on the planet, and in a horror movie, he'll still find a way to F it up and get himself killed.

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Aaron1124 wrote:

You could give a person the best weapon on the planet, and in a horror movie, he'll still find a way to F it up and get himself killed.

That is freaking hillarious

I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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You could give a person the best weapon on the planet, and in a horror movie, he'll still find a way to F it up and get himself killed.

That is freaking hillarious

I just wish people who decide to harm others especially children would just kill themselves first.

I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
"Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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You could give a person the best weapon on the planet, and in a horror movie, he'll still find a way to F it up and get himself killed.

That is freaking hillarious

I just wish people who decide to harm others especially children would just kill themselves first.

AMEN

If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
what will you do now to prove you are not stupid?

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas

"They who can who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve niether liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin

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You could give a person the best weapon on the planet, and in a horror movie, he'll still find a way to F it up and get himself killed.

That is freaking hillarious

I just wish people who decide to harm others especially children would just kill themselves first.

Or give me enough warning that I can be waiting on the other side of the door with my 12 gauge for when they come walking in.

I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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Or refuse to give your keys to GogoDawgs after drinking..........(oh no i di'int)

I'm laughing and this was only meant as a joke. :shock:

I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
"Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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Or refuse to give your keys to GogoDawgs after drinking..........(oh no i di'int)

I'm laughing and this was only meant as a joke. :shock:

Listen, there is no point in worrying about little barriers like a body when it comes to disarming a drunk of his keys.

I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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Or refuse to give your keys to GogoDawgs after drinking..........(oh no i di'int)

I'm laughing and this was only meant as a joke. :shock:

Listen, there is no point in worrying about little barriers like a body when it comes to disarming a drunk of his keys.

Or a badge? LOL...

I know but thought it funny, and didn't mean to point directly at Gogo but he made the best argument forthat point. But now that I know you are on board I shouldchange it to include your name too....LOL.

I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
"Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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Or refuse to give your keys to GogoDawgs after drinking..........(oh no i di'int)

I'm laughing and this was only meant as a joke. :shock:

Listen, there is no point in worrying about little barriers like a body when it comes to disarming a drunk of his keys.

Better watch it if your in Everett. It's Drunk hunting season...

If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
what will you do now to prove you are not stupid?

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas

"They who can who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve niether liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin