]]>50505Tue, 12 Dec 2017 22:03:20 +0000Delving into thought! two distinct epochs! Christmas Focus!https://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/50535-delving-into-thought-two-distinct-epochs-christmas-focus/This topic will make zero sense. I'll be dumping some things. Whether or not they make sense it not important.

Blackouts. Don't pass out!

Starting with this!

]]>50535Wed, 13 Dec 2017 10:53:22 +0000You want to know what's wrong with this Country I'll tell you!https://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/50483-you-want-to-know-whats-wrong-with-this-country-ill-tell-you/
Everything is a phone app or a damn answering service, no one even answers the phone anymore

I ran the greatest executive transportation service in the World and you know what my secret was?

I answered the damn phone at 03:00

everyone is a client, everyone will be treated with respect and professional courtesy

I can't even function in this phone app World!

Grrrrrrrr!!!!!!

]]>50483Tue, 12 Dec 2017 17:06:25 +0000LOST FOURTH "BLACK PYRAMID!" FOUND! Not lost anymore!!!! DISCOVERY DOCUMENTARYhttps://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/50577-lost-fourth-black-pyramid-found-not-lost-anymore-discovery-documentary/
The so-called fourth black pyramid made headlines 2 years ago now. It was seen by a explorer called Norden, from Denmark in the 1700s and written about in his memoirs. He said it is black and yellow at the top with a cube on top, which i suppose implies some kind of disassembly. It is obviously the most developed of the three Menkaura pyramids. What is new here is I suggest this black pyramid has seasonal variability in colour. Sometimes it's black and sometimes it isn't! Compounding this problem is the fact that there are in fact basalt black blocks all over the giza plateau, in front of various tombs, etc, probably all over the foundations of buildings around Cairo as well! In fact the Khufu funerary complex, destroyed seems also to have been made from these huge amazing blocks. Also from lost pyramid? Cheers!
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The pyramid complex is missing components that sat upon each of the pyramids. Components that left orbit maybe?

Jim Martin
Jim Martin
9 months ago
The pyramid complex is missing components that sat upon each of the pyramids. Components that left orbit maybe? ﻿
Riki Whytock
Riki Whytock
9 months ago
when did the ship turn up﻿
Veil Thinning
Veil Thinning
9 months ago
I KNEW IT!! I said there was 4 pyramids and one was darker than the others!! And that in my timeline…the pyramids were broken at the top and there was no capstones.. these are not our pyramids ..Mandela Effect.﻿

]]>50577Wed, 13 Dec 2017 22:10:29 +0000Public hangings worked better than our current systemhttps://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/50548-public-hangings-worked-better-than-our-current-system/
Reinstate public hangings in the USA and televise the stuff .... people seeing public hangings would work better than than the long term prison crap......and you get to save tax payers dollars....

The year was 1974. Norman Kirk was the Leader of New Zealand and he had been handed the report on the US corporate domination of the NZ agriculture sector. Monsanto and Dow Chemicals were of course as the leading culprits. He proposal was to ban Monopolies in NZ farming which would have broken up their dominance.

A Poisoned Handshake (the CIA had many plots to kill Castro and this was one of them. A poisoned handshake.) later he was dead. It took three poisoned handshakes to kill Big Norm as he was a big guy. Jellyfish toxins were used which cause a heart attack. His press secretary told people what had happened but those in power already knew and did everything they could to stop it being exposed to the public and the world at large.

Recently declassified papers show the CIA knew if Big Norm was out the way their Freemason asset Robert Muldoon would be elected. Without Robert Muldoon Rio Tinto would not have been able to make the cheapest and most pure Aluminium in the world here in NZ under the name Camalco. Nor would the Ionic Heater project be able to be powered without the Think Big Clyde Dam project which provides power to both those projects.

Labour leader Helen Clark gave a strong ticking-off to party president Bob Harvey yesterday over his claim that the CIA was involved in the death of former Prime Minister Norman Kirk.

She told the long time leader of her own party he didn’t know what went down when she wasn’t even in politics when it happened. Helen Clark herself was a puppet PM. She was later given a job at the UN drafting proposed global policies which in 20 years will be rolled out to take your freedoms in the name of progress. Bob Harvey would have known over HC any day as he had been with the party a very long time. The cover-up continued.

So why did the CIA do it?

This is important if you want to understand who and how the western world really runs.Corporations are the power. Edward Bernays in his 1928 book Propaganda stated quite clearly and knew personally the USA was not controlled or directed by any of it’s government officials. He knew it was controlled by a handful of businessmen who liked to hangout out in private clubs playing poker with each other. A gentleman’s war between gentlemen using business and money to keep score.

That is why the CIA has served the interests of Corporate American over any of the interested of USA the nation. Because that is who really runs the USA and the US government. US conflicts serve US Business Interests and the interests of their Business Partners as in Gulf War One where the City of London Corporation had their Oil stolen from them by Saddam Hussein. Imagine the Queen of England ringing up George Bush and saying put your military in the field to get back my company’s Oil...and he did exactly as he was told to do. 1991.

Few in the UK know the Queen is the controller of BP because no-one is allowed to question the Queens business, not even the UK parliament. This allows Money laundering to occur through the Bank of England which no-one knows who owns it except the owners themselves. They decide what the value of the British Pound is going to be according to their preferences. The world and speculators can’t compete with how much money the City of London Corporation has. If they want markets to move or digital currencies to gain value then there is nothing anyone else can do about it.

This is how the western world really works. A handful of powerful business people, many from dynastic families, control all the resources at every level possible. Through the British Navy they controlled world shipping and by extension world trade. That was why the UK was the World Power before WWII.

When they want to take down a free nation they use corporations to do so. They become a service provider. This was the lesson from CIA Allen Dulles that he learned from his corporation The United Fruit Corp when they took over Guatamala. The governments become indebted to you because you provide tax income revenue streams and by the time you introduce phone lines and water pipes along with electrical supplies you are indispensable.

In NZ Dow Chemicals turned up after WWII with new technology developed by the Nazi’s they wanted to test.

After WWII the scientific findings of the Nazi’s were published monthly in magazines and auctioned off to the highest bidders. Many of the corporations who purchased those patents were Nazis collaborators who had been selling them goods up until the day the US declared war. Dow Chemicals purchased HGH, Human Growth Hormone.

The Nazi’s had decided if you inject HGH into cows they would produce more milk. (10% more) Dow wanted to try it, but not expose it to people they knew. So in 1952 they started injecting HGH into dairy cows, in another country just in case it all went wrong. An Island would be good for such a purpose. New Zealand was chosen.

It was not known what the affects would be on humans who drank this milk. So Free Milk was offered to schools as a “Health Initiative”. They could then study the children and medical records to see if any detrimental affects would occur with the does they were injecting. No government ministers were told the real reasons for the free milk campaign. Dow kept that secret. Even until this day they will deny any such events occurred. They did recommend the Milk be pasteurised and double pasteurised if possible which tells us it was not great.

HGH was banned from NZ dairy farming in 1990.

As the trials were successful Dow and Monsanto decided to test a lot of new agriculture technology in NZ. The Helen Clark Government (10 December 1999 and 19 November 2008) approved testing of GMO corn in NZ which was tested here once again, just in case something went wrong.

As Dow and Monsanto were in NZ for the long haul they decided to take over NZ agri business and formed the usual covert cartel structure they are used to using in the USA.

Agent Orange, tested in NZ. Round-up, tested in NZ. 2-4-5,T tested in NZ and killed thousands from cancer. The list goes on and on. The Helen Clark governor agreed to the testing of chemical weapons on human populations under the government under the guise of removing the painted apple moth from NZ. Three time they allowed testing of Chemical and Biological weapons on NZ populations unknown the people themselves.

Weapons testing is done with sublevel doses and calculations are able to be made on reactions (several lethal breathing reactions in people who had lung problems) to calculate what a required lethal dose would be. NZ medical records are ALL collated to one place in South Africa where a private corporation collates all the data. This allows the CIA to observe any testing of any products on populations within NZ. Almost no-one would believe me if I told you the amount of things that have been tested in and on NZ’er by The Corporations. Everything from psychological programming down to testing of unsafe or military grade products on unsuspecting people. The cover of socialised medicine allows for full collation of all NZ medical data.

Before the CIA killed PM Norman Kirk he had vowed to pass a law to break up Dow Chemicals and Monsanto’s monopoly in NZ.

That is why the CIA killed him. The CIA serves the United Cartel of US Corporations which Monsanto and Dow are key players. They could not afford to lose their test nation. The money was not the reasons as NZ is peanuts for the money side of things. It was they could not afford to lose their test bed, which no doubt allows them access to billions of US tax payer funding via the US military.

Understanding who runs the CIA’s numbers is key to understanding global moves.

For the past 2 days I've had pressure equalization issues with my right ear. Its like all of a sudden I cant hear out of that ear for a few seconds. Also today I woke up with vertigo. I feel as if the earth is wobbling or if I was on a rocking boat. And no...I don't have a history of inner ear or sinus problems. I went outside and stood barefoot in the dirt in an attempt to ground myself and the vertigo got worse.

This is definitely an earthquake signal of some sort.

Oh, My animals are quieter and more clingy than usual too.

]]>19558Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:41:48 +0000Former Facebook Exec: 'You Don’t Realize It But You Are Being Programmed'https://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/50534-former-facebook-exec-you-don%E2%80%99t-realize-it-but-you-are-being-programmed/
Last month, Facebook’s first president Sean Parker opened up about his regrets over helping create social media as we know it today. “I don’t know if I really understood the consequences of what I was saying, because of the unintended consequences of a network when it grows to a billion or 2 billion people and it literally changes your relationship with society, with each other,” Parker said. “God only knows what it’s doing to our children’s brains.”

Chamath Palihapitiya, former vice president of user growth, also recently expressed his concerns. During a recent public discussion at the Stanford Graduate School of Business, Palihapitiya—who worked at Facebook from 2005 to 2011—told the audience, “I think we have created tools that are ripping apart the social fabric of how society works.”

]]>50534Wed, 13 Dec 2017 10:26:46 +0000Q is... a dis-info distraction! And Omarosa manigault?https://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/50467-q-is-a-dis-info-distraction-and-omarosa-manigault/Q from 4chan and 8chan is a dis-info distraction! How do I know!

Q-ships, also known as Q-boats, decoy vessels, special service ships, or mystery ships, were heavily armed merchant ships with concealed weaponry, designed to lure submarines into making surface attacks. This gave Q-ships the chance to open fire and sink them.

They were used by the British Royal Navy (RN) and the German Kaiserliche Marine during the First World War and by the RN, the Kriegsmarine and the United States Navy during the Second World War (1939–45).

]]>50467Tue, 12 Dec 2017 08:24:35 +0000NASA says earth is round. Where's the proof?https://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/2303-nasa-says-earth-is-round-wheres-the-proof/Why do you believe the world is round and orbits the sun in the Milky Way galaxy?

Because you were taught the heliocentric model in school? Yes, that is the answer.

So why are you looking at this thread? If you consider yourself to be a true Critical Thinker, which the CIA calls Conspiracy Theory, then you will put aside your indoctrination by the education system and you will look at the arguments put forth in the following pages. Please do not condemn the idea before you have examined it with an open mind.

Here are

10 reasons to disprove the spherical model of earth and the heliocentric system (needs commonly-observed examples for some points).

1. Curvature. Spherical trigonometry dictates that the globe should exhibit a curve of 8 inches per mile squared. No experiments on land or water have ever proven this math to be accurate. On the contrary, with proper telephoto lenses, objects can be detected far beyond the expected curvature. Example: Photos of Chicago from across Lake Michigan.

2. Atmosphere vs space vacuum. Space theoretically begins 62 miles above the earth’s surface, at the Karman Line. The laws of physics say that a vacuum can not exist next to an atmosphere. Without a barrier to separate the two areas, the atmosphere would instantly escape into the hard vacuum of space. Example: open a tank of compressed air; the oxygen or other gases inside the tank will rush outside to achieve equilibrium of air pressure. A vacuum cannot exist next to the atmosphere.

3. Water. Liquid water always seeks its own level. Gravity, which is really the function of density (weight) of objects over distances, cannot cause oceans to curve around the globe. Sea level must be consistent throughout the world. Water, in other words, can not curve. Example: the Pacific Ocean, sea level.

4. Centrifugal force. If earth rotated at 1000 mph at the equator, nothing could withstand being thrown off of it along a curved or tangential path. Gravity (density) is the weakest force in the universe, unable to overcome the extreme speed of rotation. Examples include insects, clouds, smoke, other low density-objects which rise above the earth despite the alleged gravity and centrifugal force. Example: merry-go-rounds.

6 Moon and sun. Both objects appear to the eye to be the same size, though the moon is around 238,000 miles away and the sun is 93 million miles distant. Sunlight beams deny the claim that rays enter earth’s atmosphere in parallel beams. Using simple geometry, one can determine that the triangular pattern results in a distance of only 3000 miles above. The moon emits a cooling light which illuminates only the clouds which are near it, not those that are further away. Example: sunlight beaming rays through clouds (crepuscular rays) form a triangle with a base of less than 8,000 miles miles

7. Constellations. Star patterns have not altered appreciably in human history. Considering speeds of celestial objects which travel billions of miles per year in multiple directions, as well as earth’s own rotation, revolution around the sun, following the sun through the universe, we should observe some changes in as little as 6 months (stellar parallax). But no such changes have been seen in 6000 years. Example: Orion, Polaris in the same locations for millennia.

8. Airplane travel. Flights to and from countries in the southern hemisphere always pass over countries in the north, even though they could refuel in places along a direct route. When plotted on the flat earth map, the planes show that they follow a straight line. Example: flights between South America, Africa, Australia..

9. No Sensation of movement. If earth actually rotated and revolved around the sun at 67,000 mph, we should hear sonic booms and be swept away by winds far beyond hurricane strength. Examples: quiet, calm days, east-to-west winds

10. Photographs of earth from space. There are no legitimate pictures or videos of earth. All pictorial evidence is computer-generated, as are almost all photos of celestial objects. NASA even says that these photographs were created to “match people’s expectations.” Other evident fakery from space agencies, including the ISS and the Space Shuttle, further supports the argument that our ideas about space are entirely faked. Examples: below

Compare the size of earth as seen from the moon in these 2 images

1. far side moon transit

2. Astronaut Schmitt holding a flag on the moon, Apollo 17

EDIT: Additional information provided by Rothbard. Please research before you engage in debate. Thanks!

Flat Earth Arguments (from page 6)

Spoiler

Flat Earth Arguments

Point 1. The ISS is Fake. You can supposedly see the ISS (moving at 17,150 mph 249 miles above the ground) with binoculars and there is extensive footage of astronauts allegedly playing in zero gravity of space on what appears as a space station. Are we only looking at green screens, underwater ISS models, a U-2 spy plane (NASA has one) with hologram technology, parabolic zero gravity flights, movie special effects, cables, etc.? This point is certainly debatable and worth discussing.

Point 2. Total Lack of Pictures of the Earth from Space. There are only a few alleged actual photos of the Earth from space showing the entire globe, primarily the dubious photo of Apollo 17 and the new “SEXY” photo with many peculiarities. Dozens of years and only 1-2 “good” but very problematic photographs of the entire Earth - NASA is not being truthful.

Point 3. The Space Shuttle was Not a Space Craft. You can watch clear footage of the Space Shuttle’s jet engines powering down after it supposedly “glided” to the ground. The Space Shuttle seems to be nothing more than a superficially decorated jet that never reached space. What blasted off from Cape Canaveral? Apparently, an empty model that was discarded in the sea. It appears that the Challenger Disaster astronauts are alive and well (wasn’t it coincidental that you just happened to be watching that takeoff).

Point 4. The Phases of the Moon Every 6 Months Do Not Evince Movement of the Earth around the Sun. It seems that the eight phases of the moon should be reversed at opposite times of the year because the Earth is at opposite sides of the solar system while the Sun remains roughly in the middle. This point needs more exploration.

Point 5. No Viewable Curvature Even 20 Miles above the Earth. Some mistaken individuals claim that you can see curvature from airplanes - that’s just nonsense - they’re looking through a curved window. Furthermore, it appears as though the horizon is flat even 20 miles above the ground. Spherical Earth theorists answer that the 20 miles up isn’t enough to see curvature; in other words, only NASA and other government space agencies have witnessed the actual curvature of the Earth. That’s disconcerting and should cause any reasonable person to re-examine their childhood programming.

Point 6. The Horizon Remains Flat and at Eye Level No Matter How High You Go Up. It seems that the horizon should lower from eye level as you go up - this never happens and always remains at eye or camera level.

Point 7. No Change of Speed from the North Pole Versus the Equator. For example, if you were in northern Alaska, the rotation of the Earth would be much slower (approx. 300 mph) than the rotation of the Earth at the Equator (approx. 1,025 mph); yet no one feels any change of speed when they travel from northern Alaska to the equator. Don’t you feel the difference in speed in a train when you’re moving at 30 mph and then accelerate to 100 mph? Is it too gradual of a change? I don’t know.

Point 8. The Sun Is Much Closer than 93 Million Miles and Can Even Produce a Hot Spot. You must see the video of the balloon up 20 miles that shows what appears as a hot spot on the clouds caused by the Sun. Spherical Earth theorists counter that it’s just a reflection; however, it doesn’t look like a reflection to me. Add on the fact, that others have used trigonometry to calculate the distance of the Sun as much closer than 93 million miles (e.g., approx. 3,000 miles).

Point 9. No Lowering of Atmosphere Speeds as You Reach Higher Levels When Fluid Dynamics Principles Dictate Otherwise. Imagine a model of the spherical Earth being placed in a swimming pool and begins spinning at speeds near 1,000 mph. The water would begin spinning around the sphere as well. However, the speed of the water would never be uniform. The water closer to the sphere would move much faster than the water further away and look like a whirlpool with the Earth as the center of the whirlpool. We see no evidence of this on Earth. For example, a volcanic eruption should not shoot straight up, it should initially travel straight up and then always veer west. Similarly, skydivers (and weather balloons) should end up hundreds of miles away west of their targets. Ball earthers say that the entire atmosphere keeps up with the ground uniformly - that absolutely makes no sense to me and smells like BS.

Point 10. The Atmosphere Speed Near Space Would Be Even Faster than the Ground if the Atmosphere Were Somehow Connected to the Earth. Similar to Point 9, this point is meant to illustrate the fact that ball earthers claim that the atmosphere near space is keeping up with the ground below it. The ISS is supposedly 249 miles up and moving at 17,150 mph. The atmosphere goes up approximately 300 miles and should be moving even faster above the 249 miles mark. Once a space ship exits the atmosphere, his speed would immediately drop to 0 mph. Did our astronauts ever take that into consideration? It doesn’t appear so.

Point 11. Many Photos of Objects that Should Appear Below the Horizon. Play with this curvature calculator: http://dizzib.github.io/earth/curve-calc/index.html. There are photographs and video of city skylines and objects 50+ miles away (an entire city would be well below the horizon). Spherical Earth theorists counter that the effect is caused by refraction and looming. Flat earth theorists counter that "refraction," "mirages" and "looming" are convenient excuses that just so happen to create an appearance of a flat earth. What a coincidence?

Point 12. Seeing a Full Moon During Near Noon Should Be Impossible. Why? Because the sun is well behind the moon and directly behind it.

Point 13. The Deliberate Use of Fisheye Lenses to Make the Earth Appear Round. Try raising the flat Earth debate with anyone and he or she will immediately post a video of a weather balloon (or the Red Bull jumper Felix Baumgartner and other GoPro videos) which at first glance show a curved Earth. The problem - it’s without doubt a fisheye lens - meaning the curvature is a result of the camera only - this is easy to prove but HIGHLY ignored by the spherical Earth side. Do they intentionally use the fisheye lens to manipulate us? I think the answer may be yes.

Point 14. The Polaris Problem. No movement of Polaris yet the Earth is traveling (along with the entire Solar System) at hundreds of thousands of mph in varying directions. I know Polaris is supposed to be 433.8 light years away, but no movement whatsoever over a hundred years. I guarantee that the 433.8 light years theory was deliberately created to solve this problem. In other words, the inconceivable distances were only mathematically designed to meet the requirements of a spherical model blasting through space.

Point 15. The Bedford Level Experiment (also the Bishop Experiment and others). Of course, everyone mainstream says that Samuel Rowbotham was mistaken, but then you add in Point 11 and you begin seeing that Rowbotham was probably onto something because his flat Earth results are being repeated even now by Jeranism (YouTube) and others.

Point 16. The South Pole Problem - No Time Lapse Photos Showing a Circular Pattern of Stars as Shown at the North Pole. There seem to be no video of individuals over the south pole with compasses going crazy. Of course there are several photos of the southern circular pattern with Sigma Octantis in the middle but they are very few and maybe dubious. One problem with the flat Earth is the spherical claim that there are days with 24 hours of sunlight in Antarctica. Is it true? This Point requires more investigation.

Point 17. The Apollo 17 and New “SEXY” Photos of the Earth are Fake. The Apollo 17 photo and all other photos of the Earth show the Earth as a perfect sphere; however, NASA says that the Earth is not a perfect sphere but an oblate spheroid. Also, the land sizes in the Apollo 17 photo (and every other alleged photo) are entirely incorrect. They should more closely follow the Peters Projection Map (http://www.petersmap.com/) not the Mercator Projection Map that we are all familiar with (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercator_projection). Finally, the Apollo 17 photo shows too much detail when the colors should appear more washed out due to the atmosphere.

Point 18. The Thermosphere (up to 3,632° F) is Too Hot to Support Satellites, ISS, and Hubble. Does the vacuum of space make these extreme temperatures meaningless? Well, until the head of NASA crawls into its large vacuum chamber with a blast furnace sitting two feet above his face cranked up to its maximum and sits there for a period of 10 minutes, I refuse to believe this BS excuse and so should you.

Point 19. The Atmosphere Does Not Escape into the Vacuum of Space. Ever watch the movies and see what happens when they open the door to space? Shouldn’t that happen to our atmosphere? Is gravity that powerful? If it is, why doesn’t the moon pull the atmosphere away with its gravity if it can pull the oceans? Also, why doesn’t the gravitational pull of the moon have an effect on balloons and flights etc. way up in the air if it has the ability to substantially affect our oceans? Doesn’t make sense to me but what do I know.

Point 20. The Sun Produces Non-Parallel Rays and the Moon Only Lights Up Surrounding Clouds. Ever notice Sun rays pointed in many directions? Ever notice how the moon lights up only the clouds nearby and not the ones further away? Is the Sun really 93 million miles away and the Moon 234,000 miles away? Is it just refraction?

Point 21. Admiral Byrd and Captain Cook. Admiral Byrd was a well-respected naval officer, aviator, and explorer who explored Antarctica and had a remarkable story that does not fit the establishment’s story. Captain Cook’s exploration of the coast of Antarctica and a never ending ice wall is very intriguing and makes no sense under the spherical model.

Point 22. The Gravity Problem. We are told that gravity keeps us from being flung from the Earth as it rotates at nearly 1,000 mph. However, the speed of the Earth's rotation is admittedly much less at the poles than at the equator. Accordingly, gravity would have to be stronger at the equator and a weight should weigh many times more at the North Pole than it would at the Equator. There is no change. Does gravity even exist, it’s not like it can be created in a lab?

Point 23. Railroad and Bridge Engineers Do Not Account for Changes in Curvature.

Point 24. No Hot Spot on the Moon. Take a globe and shine a light on it and the side closest to the light will be brighter than the other parts of the globe. However, the moon's light is uniform.

Point 25. The Sun and Time Problem. Here’s the problem, if the Earth rotates 360 degrees every day, then every 6 months night and day should be opposite. The well-educated spherical theorists argue that the Earth rotates just a little more than 360 degrees so that the time remains the same. However, isn’t it strange that the Earth rotates just a little more than 360 degrees so that our time always remain consistent, i.e., so that night and day never switch? I think it's very strange and sounds like a convenient excuse to maintain a failing model.

Point 26. The Lunar Eclipse Problem. At the rate of speed the Earth travels around the Sun (18.5 miles/sec.), it would be impossible for a Lunar Eclipse to last longer than a few milliseconds. Also, how does the Lunar Eclipse produce a reddish shadow? This needs more investigation. Remember, just because NASA has an answer, it doesn’t mean it’s true.

Point 28. The Antarctica and Flight Problem. Touring the depths of Antarctica is generally prohibited by treaty. No commercial flights are ever taken across the whole of Antarctica. There is only minor exploring of the outside of Antarctica without government approval. Gotta save the penguins (is this why we love penguins?). Furthermore, non-stop flights over long distances below the equator are almost non-existent. However, there is a Qantas flight between Santiago and Sydney which doesn’t fit the prevailing flat Earth models. Questions worth investigating.

Point 29. Solar Analemma Proves the Flat Earth. The Solar Analemma seems strange under the spherical model but looks right under the flat Earth model.

Point 30. Round Trips on Airplanes Between Cities Would Produce Unequal Times. Similarly, canons fired straight in the air end up with cannon balls that fall right back down on the cannons even though the Earth is rotating east up to 1,000 mph. Spherical artists argue that it's similar to playing ball in a train but ignore the fact that the car is closed - i.e., does the Earth have a dome that seals it? This also is similar to the wind problem, how does wind (and storms) flow the opposite direction of a ball that is pulling an atmosphere with it at 1,000 mph? The sphercists have their counterarguments but do they make sense to you?

Point 31. The Airy's Failed Experiment. An experiment that can be repeated and keeps showing that the Earth is not moving.

Point 32. Pilots Don't Have to Tip the Nose of the Plane to Account for Curvature. After just 50 miles, a pilot would have to tip his nose 1,667 feet to account for the curvature. All pilots confirm that no pilot accounts for curvature by tipping the plane’s nose. So gravity must somehow keep the plane from having to tip its nose? Make sense to you or do you smell the BS without dipping your nose?

Point 33. Moonlight is Cooler. A property that is inconsistent with the claim that the moon reflects sunlight. Experiments keep showing that moonlight is cold (i.e., it’s colder in the moonlight than in the shadow of the moonlight). That’s fascinating regardless of the debate but it favors the flat Earth model and is entirely ignored by mainstream science.

Point 34. Very Little Experimentation Proves the Spherical Earth. There are few experiments that prove the earth is moving, spinning, rotating or that it's a sphere (e.g., Eratosthanes). Seems like the proof would be easy but here we are.

Point 35. The Seasons Problem. The sun is 93 million miles away and yet a minor tilt of the Earth produces seasons. Make sense to you? Not to me.

Point 36. The Arctic Nights Problem. There would be no Arctic nights lasting more than 12 hours under the parallel rays of the Sun.

Point 37. Lunar Phases Should Change at Different Globe Vantage Points. The moon can't look the same from the Northern and Southern hemispheres of the Earth. I’m no moon watcher so this could use some development.

Point 38. Water is Always Flat and Cannot be Curved. Let’s see some curved water.

Point 39. No Commercial Ventures in Antarctica Ever. I’m sure you believe that our treaty system would prevent the largest most powerful corporations of the world from raping Antarctica?

Point 40. Tall Objects Far Away Only Appear Vertical. Find a single photograph of a crane or other tall straight object that appears at an angle caused by being on a titled sphere.

Point 41. Time Lapse Video of the Sun Proves the Flat Earth. These time lapse videos are showing a sun that looks like it gets larger as it approaches and smaller as it moves away, and they even make the Sun (and moon) look very close. Check out p-brane’s channel on YouTube.

Point 42. No To and Fro Zigzag of the Sun During the Midnight Sun in the Arctic. Makes no sense under the spherical model and remains unchallenged by the sphericists.

Point 43. No Huge Change Between Winter and Summer Constellations. The Sun remains in the middle and should block out half the constellations every 6 months. This doesn’t happen. I’m still thinking about this one and could use others’ input.

Point 44. No Sound of the Earth's rotation at 1,000 mph and No Bulge of Ocean Water Around the Equator Due to Centripetal Force. I dismissed this argument at first, but think about, should a spin of 1,000 mph cause the Earth to constantly creak and moan. Furthermore, like a merry-go-round, shouldn’t there be a bulge in the oceans at the equator?

Point 45. Artillery and Naval Gunners Do Not Account for Curvature for Unseen Objects. Gunners confirm that they never take curvature into consideration. Pretty strange IMHO.

Point 46. Ships Don’t Disappear Because of Curvature. The hull of the ships disappear as a result of perspective (i.e., the water ramps up to your eye level). The rest of the ship disappears in the atmosphere - this can be confirmed by watching several videos.

Point 47. Jet Streams. Jet streams on the spherical model are wild and all over the map. Put them on a flat Earth map and they appear just right.

Counterpoint 1. The Eclipses of the Moon and Sun Show a Perfect Circle. Eclipses are impossible under the flat Earth model.

Counterpoint 2. Some Flight Times Would Be Much Longer Across a Flat Earth. Via Qantas Airlines, one can fly from Santiago, Chile to Sydney, Australia in under 13 hours. That’s impossible under the flat Earth model.

Counterpoint 3. Universities and Astronomers - Thousands that Should Know. With respect to the fake moon landings, universities and astronomers had no independent way to verify the veracity of the moon landings. However, there are thousands that have the independent ability to verify whether the Earth is spherical and have the equipment to do so. Sure, many would keep their mouths shut to avoid ridicule, but some wouldn't and we don't see any respected scientists coming out in support of the flat Earth.

Counterpoint 4. Other Events in Space Predicted Accurately (e.g., Asteroids, Sun Flares, etc.). How could NASA accurately predict so many celestial events if we were on a flat Earth?

Counterpoint 5. Other spherical objects in space and in nature generally evince that the Earth is spherical. Of course, any object you look through with a telescope is only 2 dimensional. However, you can see the rings around Saturn which would indicate that Saturn is spherical.

Counterpoint 9. The Coriolis Effect. For example, cyclones and hurricanes rotate opposite directions depending on the Northern and Southern Hemispheres.

Counterpoint 10. The Southern Pole Star - Sigma Octantis.

Counterpoint 11. You Can See the ISS from Earth with Binoculars.

Counterpoint 12. No Witnesses of the Edge.

Counterpoint 13. SOHO (Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (a satellite that studies the Sun 24 hours a day, 365 days a year without interruptions), SDO (the Solar Dynamics Observatory Satellite), STEREO (Solar TErrestrial RElations Observatory), and Others of the Heliophysics System Observatory (HSO), etc. all prove the spherical Earth.

Counterpoint 14. Others Cited by Wikipedia (not very compelling in my humble opinion). Seehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth. "1. When at sea it is possible to see high mountains or elevated lights in the distance before lower-lying ground and the mast of a boat before the hull. It is also possible to see further by climbing higher in the ship, or, when on land, on high cliffs. 2. The sun is lower in the sky as you travel away from the tropics. For example, when traveling northward, stars such as Polaris, the north star, are higher in the sky, whereas other bright stars such as Canopus, visible in Egypt, disappear from the sky. 3. The length of daylight varies more between summer and winter the farther you are from the equator. 4. The earth throws a circular shadow on the moon during a lunar eclipse. 5. The times reported for lunar eclipses (which are seen simultaneously) are many hours later in the east (e.g. India) than in the west (e.g. Europe). Local times are confirmed later by travel using chronometers and telegraphic communication. 6. When you travel far south, to Ethiopia or India, the sun throws a shadow south at certain times of the year. Even farther (e.g. Argentina) and the shadow is always in the south. 7. It is possible to circumnavigate the world; that is, to travel around the world and return to where you started. 8. Travelers who circumnavigate the earth observe the gain or loss of a day relative to those who did not. 9. An artificial satellite can circle the earth continuously and even be geostationary. 10. The earth appears as a disc on photographs taken from space, regardless of the vantage point."

Counterpoint 15. If there was a flat Earth, then you should be able to see the Sun (and other very distant land objects) with a telescope even at nighttime.

Counterpoint 16. Under the flat Earth model, the sun would gradually shrink in size as it approaches the horizon. Maybe the sun would disappear behind haze and atmosphere, but it would disappear gradually as the sun approaches the size of a point. It wouldn't be sliced from the bottom up as we witness daily.

Counterpoint 17. If you created a flat Earth model by using a table and a small light tracking over the table, even with an atmosphere, light would be nearly visible across the entire table. Why don't we witness that in real life?

Counterpoint 18. Under the flat Earth model, the moon and sun would change sizes as they moved closer and further away.

Counterpoint 19. The sun and moon, which are farther away than ships on the ocean, do not disappear at the horizon supposedly due to atmospheric distortion.

Counterpoint 20. Under the flat Earth model, the sun should not be able to illuminate clouds from BELOW at sun set/rise but this happens often.

Counterpoint 21. There are two tidal peaks/troughs every 24 hours which is impossible under the flat earth model.

Counterpoint 22. The Aurora Australis behaves the same as the Aurora Borealis. That would indicate the south pole is similar to the north pole.

Counterpoint 24. Weather patterns, trade winds, jet streams circulate variously in West-East and East West directions. The weather in my region runs west to east. Near the equator and poles it runs east to west. Makes no sense if the Earth isn't spinning.

Counterpoint 25. The Foucault Pendulum Proves the Earth is Rotating.

Counterpoint 26. In summer, the Sun rises DUE EAST and sets DUE WEST. But under the flat Earth model (with it's spinning sun and moon) place the sun North East at sunrise and North West at sunset. Other angles are incorrect.

Counterpoint 27. Every summer, there are 24-hour days of sunlight in Antarctica that is not explained by the flat Earth model.

Counterpoint 28. Plate tectonics explains how the continents once fit together nicely, which is not addressed by the flat Earth model.

Counterpoint 29. If the north pole was concentrated at a point and the south pole was spread over a wide area, you'd be able to measure a gradual decline in magnetic field strength as you travel from north to south. That doesn't happen.

Counterpoint 30. All Movements of the Stars, Sun, Planets, and Moon Evince a Spherical Earth.

Counterpoint 31. There are commercial flights, cruises, excursions, and treks into Antarctica disproving the flat Earth.

Monday, August 3, 2015

200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball

This 35 page ebook full of photographs and diagrams is the perfect tool to help spark conversation and awaken your friends and family to the mother of all conspiracies. Please make copies, print, distribute, re-upload and do everything you can to get this most important information out to the masses!

Download from the link above or read the entire thing online below:

1) The horizon always appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around the observer regardless of altitude. All amateur balloon, rocket, plane and drone footage show a completely flat horizon over 20+ miles high. Only NASA and other government “space agencies” show curvature in their fake CGI photos/videos.

2) The horizon always rises to the eye level of the observer as altitude is gained, so you never have to look down to see it. If Earth were in fact a globe, no matter how large, as you ascended the horizon would stay fixed and the observer / camera would have to tilt looking down further and further to see it.

3) The natural physics of water is to find and maintain its level. If Earth were a giant sphere tilted, wobbling and hurdling through infinite space then truly flat, consistently level surfaces would not exist here. But since Earth is in fact an extended flat plane, this fundamental physical property of fluids finding and remaining level is consistent with experience and common sense.

4) Rivers run down to sea-level finding the easiest course, North, South, East, West and all other intermediary directions over the Earth at the same time. If Earth were truly a spinning ball then many of these rivers would be impossibly flowing uphill, for example the Mississippi in its 3000 miles would have to ascend 11 miles before reaching the Gulf of Mexico.

5) One portion of the Nile River flows for a thousand miles with a fall of only one foot. Parts of the West African Congo, according to the supposed inclination and movement of the ball-Earth, would be sometimes running uphill and sometimes down. This would also be the case for the Parana, Paraguay and other long rivers.

6) If Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circumference as NASA and modern astronomy claim, spherical trigonometry dictates the surface of all standing water must curve downward an easily measurable 8 inches per mile multiplied by the square of the distance. This means along a 6 mile channel of standing water, the Earth would dip 6 feet on either end from the central peak. Every time such experiments have been conducted, however, standing water has proven to be perfectly level.

7) Surveyors, engineers and architects are never required to factor the supposed curvature of the Earth into their projects. Canals, railways, bridges and tunnels for example are always cut and laid horizontally, often over hundreds of miles without any allowance for curvature.

8) The Suez Canal connecting the Mediterranean with the Red Sea is 100 miles long without any locks making the water an uninterrupted continuation of the two seas. When constructed, the Earth’s supposed curvature was not taken into account, it was dug along a horizontal datum line 26 feet below sea-level, passing through several lakes from one sea to the other, with the datum line and water’s surface running perfectly parallel over the 100 miles.

9) Engineer, W. Winckler was published in the Earth Review regarding the Earth’s supposed curvature, stating, “As an engineer of many years standing, I saw that this absurd allowance is only permitted in school books. No engineer would dream of allowing anything of the kind. I have projected many miles of railways and many more of canals and the allowance has not even been thought of, much less allowed for. This allowance for curvature means this - that it is 8” for the first mile of a canal, and increasing at the ratio by the square of the distance in miles; thus a small navigable canal for boats, say 30 miles long, will have, by the above rule an allowance for curvature of 600 feet. Think of that and then please credit engineers as not being quite such fools. Nothing of the sort is allowed. We no more think of allowing 600 feet for a line of 30 miles of railway or canal, than of wasting our time trying to square the circle”

10) The London and Northwestern Railway forms a straight line 180 miles long between London and Liverpool. The railroad’s highest point, midway at Birmingham station, is only 240 feet above sea-level. If the world were actually a globe, however, curving 8 inches per mile squared, the 180 mile stretch of rail would form an arc with the center point at Birmingham raising over a mile, a full 5,400 feet above London and Liverpool.

11) A surveyor and engineer of thirty years published in the Birmingham Weekly Mercury stated, “I am thoroughly acquainted with the theory and practice of civil engineering. However bigoted some of our professors may be in the theory of surveying according to the prescribed rules, yet it is well known amongst us that such theoretical measurements are INCAPABLE OF ANY PRACTICAL ILLUSTRATION. All our locomotives are designed to run on what may be regarded as TRUE LEVELS or FLATS. There are, of course, partial inclines or gradients here and there, but they are always accurately defined and must be carefully traversed. But anything approaching to eight inches in the mile, increasing as the square of the distance, COULD NOT BE WORKED BY ANY ENGINE THAT WAS EVER YET CONSTRUCTED. Taking one station with another all over England and Scotland, it may be stated that all the platforms are ON THE SAME RELATIVE LEVEL. The distance between Eastern and Western coasts of England may be set down as 300 miles. If the prescribed curvature was indeed as represented, the central stations at Rugby or Warwick ought to be close upon three miles higher than a chord drawn from the two extremities. If such was the case there is not a driver or stoker within the Kingdom that would be found to take charge of the train. We can only laugh at those of your readers who seriously give us credit for such venturesome exploits, as running trains round spherical curves. Horizontal curves on levels are dangerous enough, vertical curves would be a thousand times worse, and with our rolling stock constructed as at present physically impossible.”

12) The Manchester Ship Canal Company published in the Earth Review stated, “It is customary in Railway and Canal constructions for all levels to be referred to a datum which is nominally horizontal and is so shown on all sections. It is not the practice in laying out Public Works to make allowances for the curvature of the earth

13) In a 19th century French experiment by M. M. Biot and Arago a powerful lamp with good reflectors was placed on the summit of Desierto las Palmas in Spain and able to be seen all the way from Camprey on the Island of Iviza. Since the elevation of the two points were identical and the distance between covered nearly 100 miles, if Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circumference, the light should have been more than 6600 feet, a mile and a quarter, below the line of sight!

14) The Lieutenant-Colonel Portlock experiment used oxy-hydrogen Drummond’s lights and heliostats to reflect the sun’s rays across stations set up across 108 miles of St. George’s Channel. If the Earth were actually a ball 25,000 miles in circumference, Portlock’s light should have remained hidden under a mile and a half of curvature.

15) If the Earth were truly a sphere 25,000 miles in circumference, airplane pilots would have to constantly correct their altitudes downwards so as to not fly straight off into “outer space;” a pilot wishing to simply maintain their altitude at a typical cruising speed of 500 mph, would have to constantly dip their nose downwards and descend 2,777 feet (over half a mile) every minute! Otherwise, without compensation, in one hour’s time the pilot would find themselves 31.5 miles higher than expected.

16) The experiment known as “Airy’s Failure” proved that the stars move relative to a stationary Earth and not the other way around. By first filling a telescope with water to slow down the speed of light inside, then calculating the tilt necessary to get the starlight directly down the tube, Airy failed to prove the heliocentric theory since the starlight was already coming in the correct angle with no change necessary, and instead proved the geocentric model correct.

17) “Olber’s Paradox” states that if there were billions of stars which are suns the night sky would be filled completely with light. As Edgar Allen Poe said, “Were the succession of stars endless, then the background of the sky would present us a uniform luminosity, since there could exist absolutely no point, in all that background, at which would not exist a star.” In fact Olber’s “Paradox” is no more a paradox than George Airy’s experiment was a “failure.” Both are actually excellent refutations of the heliocentric spinning ball model.

18) The Michelson-Morley and Sagnac experiments attempted to measure the change in speed of light due to Earth’s assumed motion through space. After measuring in every possible different direction in various locations they failed to detect any significant change whatsoever, again proving the stationary geocentric model.

19) Tycho Brahe famously argued against the heliocentric theory in his time, positing that if the Earth revolved around the Sun, the change in relative position of the stars after 6 months orbital motion could not fail to be seen. He argued that the stars should seem to separate as we approach and come together as we recede. In actual fact, however, after 190,000,000 miles of supposed orbit around the Sun, not a single inch of parallax can be detected in the stars, proving we have not moved at all.

20) If Earth were truly constantly spinning Eastwards at over 1000mph, vertically-fired cannonballs and other projectiles should fall significantly due west. In actual fact, however, whenever this has been tested, vertically-fired cannonballs shoot upwards an average of 14 seconds ascending, 14 seconds descending, and fall back to the ground no more than 2 feet away from the cannon, often directly back into the muzzle

21) If the Earth were truly constantly spinning Eastwards at over 1000mph, helicopters and hot-air balloons should be able to simply hover over the surface of the Earth and wait for their destinations to come to them!

22) If Earth were truly constantly spinning Eastwards at over 1000mph, during the Red Bull stratosphere dive, Felix Baumgartner, spending 3 hours ascending over New Mexico, should have landed 2500 miles West into the Pacific Ocean but instead landed a few dozen miles East of the take-off point.

23) Ball-believers often claim “gravity” magically and inexplicably drags the entire lower-atmosphere of the Earth in perfect synchronization up to some undetermined height where this progressively faster spinning atmosphere gives way to the non-spinning, non-gravitized, non-atmosphere of infinite vacuum space. Such non-sensical theories are debunked, however, by rain, fireworks, birds, bugs, clouds, smoke, planes and projectiles all of which would behave very differently if both the ball-Earth and its atmosphere were constantly spinning Eastwards at 1000mph.

24) If Earth and its atmosphere were constantly spinning eastwards over 1000mph then North/South facing cannons should establish a control while East-firing cannonballs should fall significantly farther than all others while West-firing cannonballs should fall significantly closer. In actual fact, however, regardless of which direction cannons are fired, the distance covered is always the same.

25) If Earth and its atmosphere were constantly spinning eastwards over 1000mph, then the average commercial airliner traveling 500mph should never be able to reach its Eastward destinations before they come speeding up from behind! Likewise Westward destinations should be arrived at thrice the speed, but this is not the case.

26) Quoting “Heaven and Earth” by Gabrielle Henriet, “If flying had been invented at the time of Copernicus, there is no doubt that he would have soon realized that his contention regarding the rotation of the earth was wrong, on account of the relation existing between the speed of an aircraft and that of the earth’s rotation. If the earth rotates, as it is said, at 1,000 miles an hour, and a plane flies in the same direction at only 500 miles, it is obvious that its place of destination will be farther removed every minute. On the other hand, if flying took place in the direction opposite to that of the rotation, a distance of 1,500 miles would be covered in one hour, instead of 500, since the speed of the rotation is to be added to that of the plane. It could also be pointed out that such a flying speed of 1,000 miles an hour, which is supposed to be that of the earth’s rotation, has recently been achieved, so that an aircraft flying at this rate in the same direction as that of the rotation could not cover any ground at all. It would remain suspended in mid-air over the spot from which it took off, since both speeds are equal.”

27) If Earth and its atmosphere were constantly spinning Eastwards over 1000mph, landing airplanes on such fast-moving runways which face all manner of directions North, South, East, West and otherwise would be practically impossible, yet in reality such fictional concerns are completely negligible.

28) If the Earth and its atmosphere were constantly spinning Eastwards over 1000mph, then clouds, wind and weather patterns could not casually and unpredictably go every which way, with clouds often travelling in opposing directions at varying altitudes simultaneously.

29) If the Earth and its atmosphere were constantly spinning Eastwards over 1000mph, this should somewhere somehow be seen, heard, felt or measured by someone, yet no one in history has ever experienced this alleged Eastward motion; meanwhile, however, we can hear, feel and experimentally measure even the slightest Westward breeze.

30) In his book “South Sea Voyages,” Arctic and Antarctic explorer Sir James Clarke Ross, described his experience on the night of November 27th, 1839 and his conclusion that the Earth must be motionless: “The sky being very clear … it enabled us to observe the higher stratum of clouds to be moving in an exactly opposite direction to that of the wind--a circumstance which is frequently recorded in our meteorological journal both in the north-east and south-east trades, and has also often been observed by former voyagers. Captain Basil Hall witnessed it from the summit of the Peak of Teneriffe; and Count Strzelechi, on ascending the volcanic mountain of Kiranea, in Owhyhee, reached at 4000 feet an elevation above that of the trade wind, and experienced the influence of an opposite current of air of a different hygrometric and thermometric condition … Count Strzelechi further informed me of the following seemingly anomalous circumstance--that at the height of 6000 feet he found the current of air blowing at right angles to both the lower strata, also of a different hygrometric and thermometric condition, but warmer than the inter-stratum. Such a state of the atmosphere is compatible only with the fact which other evidence has demonstrated, that the earth is at rest."

A dystopian thriller set in the year 2030 that sees the world in a permanent state of economic recession and facing serious environmental problems as a result of global warming.

]]>50400Mon, 11 Dec 2017 12:01:12 +0000Taylor Swift talking to the serpent with devil horns.https://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/50549-taylor-swift-talking-to-the-serpent-with-devil-horns/
This is a recent performance by Taylor Swift and the snapshot I took is her talking on the phone but uses devil horns, index finger and pinky, instead of the usual handphone, thumb and pinky. She is also talking to a serpent on her microphone. Go figure.

I live in New Zealand. It is a socialist nation and a trading and defence partner of the USA.

I often read how socialism doesn’t work economically and it will make your nation fail along with how minimum wage causing a drop in employment. This is simply untrue as demonstrated by the NZ economy.

NZ is a democratic socialism, we vote who our government is but the socialism was set in place by the people not the government.

The reason was no capitalists would invest in NZ or NZ infrastructure so we had to build what he have with our own hands and limited wealth. The government was made to introduce services the people desired or be rolled.

This lead to free health care, a Pension, Widows benefit, unemployment benefit, ACC where you are given money to live if you are injured on the job. Free education.

But it is not free, we fund it out our our money.

So how much does it cost to be able to provide all these services?

28% of your earnings in taxes or up to 30% if you earn over $70,000 NZD a year. That is the up front tax rate, then you have the hidden taxes. 12.5% tax is charged all all products sold and services provided. It is called GST, Goods and Services Tax.

So it really costs us 42.5% of our income to provide those services. If we didn’t service our Debt we would have 30 billion more to spend each year.

NZ runs on 110 billion dollars a year. That money services 5 million people across a nation twice the size of the UK and around the same size as Japan. Roads connect up the length of the nation.

It is expensive to run a smaller population nation. If we had 18 million people we could drop 10% off taxes off because the domestic money pool is so much higher and more efficient.

Socialism is not Free.It is expensive and people have to work hard to pay for it to work. The benefit is less overheads so workers get more disposable income because they are not paying hefty insurance costs on everything and paying for-profit corporations for domestic services.

NZ is say a level 1 Socialist nation, everyone is free, has rights and laws to protect them and they are serviced from cradle to the grave if required. You can still get private health care (very expensive and staffed by the same doctors who staff the National Hospitals as they are allowed to work private and public health care at once which makes them around 3 million a year. You can see when the doctors are the same then the level of service is the same the only difference is how long you wait for an operation.) or any private service.

As resources tighten a Socialist nation has to force productivity. But this I mean they can no longer afford to have people getting paid to do nothing. The top end of this is the Socialism of the USSR where everyone was made to work including women. I would classify this is type 5 socialism where you have lost all rights and freedoms and become a slave to the state.

China’s economic model is that of a nation moving from a type 5 socialism to a type 1 socialism like in NZ. The government is in tight control but people are allowed to conduct private business as long as they pay their taxes and don’t intrude on the governments spheres of influence.

Socialism is expensive!!!

But the cost of living is reduced dramatically at the expensive of private corporations as they are barred from making profits off utilities and domestic services which would upset the cost of living and push people into poverty through economic warfare conducted by corporations against the working class people.

NZ’s model of socialism promises to deliver people a pathway through work to owning your own house within your 20 year working life (the years you can work hard) and being able to raise a family. That is considered the minimum standard we will accept.

I will reiterate the socialism in NZ was forced on the government rather than the other way around. It was an initiative by the people for the people. It came as a result of the NZ holocaust.

After the Gold Rush in NZ 100,000 men were left standard here with no way to get home. They died hard. Walking from place to place begging for food at farms until the day you had decided you had done enough an sat behind the flax bushes and waited to die.

Over winter they would shelter together on broad river banks, sometimes 6000 in one place. Just struggling to make it another day. They survived by pooling everything they had together. That is why we have the socialism we have in NZ. It should be noted those men died with nothing. That is not good enough we have decided. You are suppose to die owning a house which you worked to earn. That is the minimum. If your wages are not great enough to support and sustain that you have failed your people as a nation and government.

Type 1 socialism is about looking after everyone for the benefit of all society.

Type 5 socialism is about corporate rape of the people as a resource to make extreme profit for the ruling cadre.

The World Media portrays all Socialism as Type 5 socialism. They refuse to convey to the US people their NZ ally is plainly as socialist as you can get because socialism the Enemy of the USA.

The UK is at least as socialist as NZ because of the influence of the Fabian Socialists pre 1900.

Canada is also just as socialist. Australia a little less socialist but not by much. Those are the top 4 US allies, the UK AU CAN NZ, all socialist nations.

So how does that gel with the assertion socialism does not work when all of those nations are so stable?

Socialism works two angles. Economic socialism and Philosophical Socialism.

The Philosophical Socialism is the most dangerous of the two because it seeks to control all human activity and standardise it. This the the Socialism of the Nazi’s. It is also the socialism of the US Political Left.

The Socialism of the US Left is not economic socialism, it is philosophical Socialism which can never be perfected while unstandardised humans exist. The US Left is trying to import the values of the Nazi’s which forces a socialist totalitarianism we describe colloquially as Fascism, to be made to do things with no choice. That is the most dangerous Socialism of all as it does not serve the people in any way nor benefit their life nor increase their lifestyle.

So why are rich people in the USA funding those who will institute extreme socialism?

Because it creates a workforce you can pay very little which maximizes your profits. It is the wet dream of Corporation owners, to be able to pay workers peanuts and get away with it. They will join and become One Corporation and make all the profits while providing subsistence living for workers. Yes the corporations will merge and become the Government as per the plan developed in the 1920's. In reality they have already done this as a cartel and that is why the biggest US corporations run the USA government not the elected officials at all. The cartel of United Corporations in the USA runs on taxpayer dollars. They are the biggest corporate benefactors of US taxes, of which they themselves use loop holes to avoid paying.

What are the identifiers of socialism?

Taxes. Capitalism doesn’t need taxes as everyone is expected to pay their own way, even governments who are also registered corporations. In capitalism no one is propped up and inefficient businesses go out of business along with useless corporations.

Yes the USA is really a Socialist nation and has been since the day it introduced compulsory Taxes.

So who are the big beneficiaries of those taxes?

US Corporations who receive US government contracts.The USA is running a corporate socialism by stealth in which the workers earnings are being stolen and given to rich people to make them richer. That is where your US taxes are going. The US defence contractors. They get more of the money than every other sector outside of the Administration itself which is also a welfare beneficiary.

The method used to get away with this is simply crying day and night the USA is a capitalist nation run on capitalist ethics. It is a Big Lie repeated so often people don’t question it.

So the reason it is so expensive to live in the USA is not because it is capitalist it is because it is socialist but can’t admit it publicly.

Is there a genuine capitalist nation?

Undeveloped Africa where no laws exist nor any regulation which is always a sign of socialism. Pure Capitalism does not regulate anything. Socialism often seeks to regulate everything.

Why have we ended up with this?

Because we have evolved from societies and cultures which had rulers!! People were used to being ruled and regulated.

Today we stand on the verge of a social revolution in which Governments cease to exist and corporations become owned by the their user base. No-one knows about this revolution yet as it has only just started and not gained traction in the public consciousness yet.

This new model wins because it delivers what it promises and has full transparency. It makes all of your expenses cheaper at the expense of the corporations who previously provided those goods and services. The last resort of the corporations has to be to try and lock up physical resources to deny them to us to make us go through them to get what we want. A bit like Water and Power in Tank Girl.

A simple model that says “would you pay for service A provided by this corporation when you can get it from the people owned corporation at just above cost price?”

This is the revolution people have been waiting for. By ceasing to use the services and products of the corporations it forces them out of business which can then be purchased by crowd-funding by those who desire to use that service.

Imagine if tomorrow everyone it he USA refused to use one Gasoline company until, it went broke. Then the people who want cheap Gasoline then buy it between themselves and cease using the other gasoline companies until they also went broke. Then what you end up with is the only gasoline company supplying the whole nation is owned by the very people who use that product.

And you can do it with every service and resource until the government controls nothing and has no ability to regulate anything owned by the people. In one campaign you wipe out the power of the corporations and government and never fire shot.

That is how you take over your own nation peacefully. It is easy to sell because you point out how everyone will have a lot more money once you cut out the Government Welfare Babies known as the US defence sector and all of the services and products will be less than half the price they are currently.

Who doesn’t want to have more money through less expenses?

When the people own the assets the corporations can no longer run your life.

Peaceful capitalism is achievable.

]]>50519Wed, 13 Dec 2017 00:03:49 +0000David P. Crayford: The Office of International Treasury Controllerhttps://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/50539-david-p-crayford-the-office-of-international-treasury-controller/
DAVID CRAYFORD AND THE ITC

Last Updated: Jan 6, 2017 - 4:31:36 PM

The Office of International Treasury Control (OITC) Speaks to Abundant Hope's Readers
By Senior Consultant to the OITC
Sep 15, 2009 - 7:39:00 PM

Candace: Since i still send this out to folks, The Whistleblower mentioned is David Crayford. Also, as you will perceive later working thru the material in this section,, Dr. Ray Dam was eventually ousted and there is a new International Treasury Controller. We are NOT naming this person at this time. But correctly chosen and filling the slot.

The Office of International Treasury Control (OITC) Speaks to Abundant Hope's Readers

Ron: The Office of International Treasury Control (OITC) is Urantia’s key organization in relation to global wealth and finance and the current 3D global economy. Here is a statement from a Senior Officer of the OITC about the OITC’s origins, organisation and functions. Accordingly this information is straight from “the horse’s mouth”. Full background information on the OITC and its activities is available at its website, see: http://www.unoitc.org/

]]>50539Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:56:19 +0000Where do you draw the line?https://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/50499-where-do-you-draw-the-line/
This is a question for the Christians out there.

When you reach a crossroads where God's Word and man's word separate, what do you do? Do you choose to follow God or man?

If man, why?

For the majority of my life, I followed man. But it wasn't a conscious choice for me. I had never taken the time to actually read what the Word of God said, so I had no idea I was making that choice. But I was a Revelation 3:16 Christian.

But I know now. And so do you.

If you don't believe in God, so be it. That's fine, and certainly your choice. This thread isn't directed at you.

Many reading this be here in this sphere of “able to be accepted reality” or expanded reality or perhaps unrestricted reality will be here for the same reason as I. You saw something or experienced something which could not be explained by orthodox science.

For many this snapped you out of a programmed restricted reality which was restricted by mentality. More accurately lack of information which gives understanding and expands what you know about the limits of apparent reality.

Reality has two distinct parts, the hard part we all see as apparent and a mental part which exists in our minds. The hard part has one perspective and is inflexible. The mental part is multifaceted and a multitude of perspectives are applicable.

Throughout the ages well have explored the mental side of reality as well as the apparent hard part. The tool invented was called philosophy and it rules are very simple, logic and reason are the only tools we can use to delve the mental space because they remain consistent no matter what. Then what is taught is what is a bad argument and faulty logic. What can be produced is a person who knows how to argue and explore reality logically and obtain a result anybody can understand if they follow your chain of logic.

In practise this works by a person making a proposition or postulation on how something works. Their fellow debaters try and make it fail using logic and reason in their arguments. In the process the person who made the postulation has to expand and flesh out the details to those seeking to see if the argument is at fault or uses faulty logic.

It is through this we developed the hard sciences to test postulations proposed by Philosophy to see if the thinking and logic chains were correct and if not be able to alter them to be correct.

Through Philosophy we have invented the modern world. It is based on logical testable arguments which result in new knowledge being discovered. The application of new knowledge brought the Age of Innovation following the age of Enlightenment (when the churches doctrines were finally rejected after the dark ages and people once again decided to follow logic and reason)

So to sum that up when we want to find out the answers to thinks we don’t know about or are just discovering we have to use the most advanced philosophy techniques. We explore mentally then see if real life testing is possible as yet with our current technology.

Even if what we postulate is not able to be defeated by logical argument it does not mean it is the truth. It does mean it has to be considered seriously until otherwise disproved thus creating The Scientific Method; That which cannot be proved must be taken as a genuine possibility no matter how outlandish until otherwise disproved.

In every debate or argument one must first define your terms.

If you do not bother doing this people end up arguing over definitions rather than understanding what the postulation is really about.

That said now we get to Easter Eggs hidden in reality. Glitches in the Matrix some people call them. Things that happen which cannot happen but did happen, sometimes only with one witness who is rarely believed by anyone else.

Many people know me and know I grew up in New Zealand. In NZ we only had 2 TV channels and where I lived we only had one of them until they expanded the repeater network and finally we had 2 TV channels.

In NZ we got UK TV shows and US TV shows. One of those shows inspired many people to not be locked into limited reality. It was a US TV show called That’s Incredible.

Many pieces on the show featured unexplainable “miracles”. Today we would call these Glitches in the Matrix or the Hidden Easter Eggs as I like to think of them.

This is one.

A lady lifted the Trailer Unit of a rolled truck with one arm on the side of the highway after it left the road and landed on her child. She pulled her son out with the other arm. It is an impossible act, witness by more than one person. Her arm cannot have held or lifted that weight, it is physically impossible. She should have sunk into the ground while doing so and no-one can lift huge trailer units let alone with one arm.

She said she didn’t think about it, she just did it. This is common when people defy apparent reality with their minds and achieve an in the flesh result. Suspension of disbelief is required. People have to believe 100% or believe it can’t be done. In most cases the time factors were so critical people failed to think of anything except producing the result they desired. You could indeed say They Used The Force.

Sceptics can always find a way to suggest it was not a alteration of reality, that is how their minds work. They look with biased minds that are closed.

To explore reality fully you need to use belief and doubt as your tools just like in Philosophical arguments.You can’t use just one or you might only get half the answer.

An example of this is people to try an alter reality on purpose rather than by happen-stance.

If you do not believe you have these abilities you will not be able to use them. This is critical and why we have to use belief and doubt to explore mentally and get the full answers.

I would like to ask people to share their experiences of glitches in the matrix and suggest how they think it worked or went down before going on too much further.

I have done a lot of work on this over the years looking for answers and I guess sometimes you are looking for validation by having someone else reach the same conclusions independently.

Have you witnesses or done something impossible?

Unable to be explained by orthodox science?

One thing I have noticed discussing this with many people over the years is how people tend to forget or over time get sucked into thinking that can’t have really happened and they often forget until something prompts them into remembering.

]]>50459Tue, 12 Dec 2017 02:56:55 +0000FEEDBACK PLEASE!!https://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/50261-feedback-please/
This is a theory or concept I have been working on for a while,we know the LHC produces an electromagnetic field as much as 100,000 times stronger than the Earth itself. Some truthers out there are trying to link this to adverse weather effects,as well as seismic and volcanic activity,and I in no way am trying to debunk any of those theories as I am a believer of some but not all them.However my main concern is this,and please guys I wanna hear your thoughts on this,the fact that many asteroids are magnetic,and everytime they turn the LHC on they are in essence pulling everything out in the vastness of our solar system that is magnetic toward us little by little and overtime may contribute to a large impact in the not so distant future.I wondered about this for the past couple of years and have definitely noted a huge increase in fireballs coming into our atmosphere especially in the last 6 months..Please guys and gals respond and tell us all what you think,as there are definitely alot of you all way smarter than me!! Merry Christmas everyone I hope it offends no one but could care less as I love this time of year and I believe the whole world could stand to embrace the joy and love of Christmas even if they don't agree with why it started..
]]>50261Sat, 09 Dec 2017 16:11:11 +0000What is the Mysterious Handbag Seen in Multiple Ancient Carvings? A High Tech Device?https://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/49733-what-is-the-mysterious-handbag-seen-in-multiple-ancient-carvings-a-high-tech-device/
What is the Mysterious Handbag Seen in Multiple Ancient Carvings? A High Tech Device?

As you all know, question the history we've been taught ...

One of the more mysterious symbols that has been found in ancient carvings is an image that looks uncannily like a handbag. The shape appears in depictions made by the Sumerians of Iraq, in the ruins of ancient Turkish temples, in decorations of the Maori of New Zealand, and in crafts made by the Olmecs of Central America. Handbags can be seen in the art of disparate cultures from around the world and throughout time, with the first known instance of a handbag appearing at the end of the Ice Age. What is this mysterious symbol that can be found throughout the ancient world?

]]>50518Tue, 12 Dec 2017 23:59:40 +0000How The Mark Might Be a Crypto Currencyhttps://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/50507-how-the-mark-might-be-a-crypto-currency/
A crypto currency (might be bitcoin) could be the Beast Fiancial System we are awaiting, coupled to an AI function built into the blockchain. The QR code required for your E Wallet would be an IR tattoo to access the offline Hash. I think this is it, everyone gets rich in the next 5 years but use this wealth in everyday buys you will gladly accept the tatoo. We have been made accepting of tattoos and crypto currency like bitcoin and etherium so an IR Tattoo with your QR Code would be an easy step to make now.
]]>50507Tue, 12 Dec 2017 22:30:15 +0000An Old Irish Legend About An Ancient Egyptian Princesshttps://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/50500-an-old-irish-legend-about-an-ancient-egyptian-princess/

]]>50500Tue, 12 Dec 2017 20:54:48 +0000What's Not to Love About LOVE ?❤️?https://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/50480-whats-not-to-love-about-love-%E2%9D%A4%EF%B8%8F/
To go along with the message at the top of the forum page ❤️💜 ...

What's Not to Love About LOVE ?❤️?

In a world of fear, there is a place absent of it – it's in LOVE

1 John 4:18

There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.

The Greatest Commandment:

Matthew 22:36-40 (NIV)

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.' 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

For many, what you’re about to read will step so far outside your boundaries of what you would call your perceptual reality, it will seem nothing more than the ramblings of crazy person. For some of you, you’ll already know what’s contained and despise every waking second I walk this planet. For an even smaller few, this is probably something you’ve been waiting for. And for the even smaller few who have never heard about this before but can apply sensible logic to the data dump I have provided in the wetransfer link above, your understanding of the world in which you live is about alter drastically – and it’s you few in which I do this for.

Let me first start by saying I am not here to debate what I am about post. There are few questions, just outlines of events that have taken place. You will either believe it or you won’t. Yes, if all this is true, then I can expect to be taken out very shortly but after 8 months of this, I really have had enough. As of tonight, I have left co-ordinates of a location and a time in which they will freely be able to do this if they so wish. I can not hide nor do I want to, I am truly fed-up of them f**king my life up now. If I don’t report a second data dump in the next 48 hours, you’ll know they have had me.

I am going to try and keep this as short as possible and list events that have happened rather than go into everything in detail. This data dump only contains information that will benefit the individual and not try and provide proof of how I fit into all of this. If I make it past tonight, my next data dump will aim to show how I believe I somehow seem to fit into all of this. To be honest, I still do not understand this fully, a lot is probably disbelief that it is actually happening but I am at stage where I can deny no more what I now see before me. The level of attacks I receive on a daily basis on top of this only further proves to me something beyond most of our understanding is now taking place – the outcome of which will affect everyone in their own way.

Let me explain how this began (from my perspective at least). I apologize in advance if this read’s slightly like a pulp fiction story in that where I start is not, as I have found out where it all really began – for me at least. I will state from the start that I truly believe that at the core of all of this is the battle for the in betweeners or middle earth if you will and has heaven and hell at the very foundation of influence to the events in which have taken place and continue to do so.

I have lived most of life without giving a second thought to heaven or hell. After looking into aliens, abductions and the associated phenomena for many years previously, I was already comfortable within my self of understanding that ‘they’ do exist. Anyway, on a night on holiday in Gran Canaria (event yr 2009), I did witness with my partner a static star suddenly shot off into orbit as we watched the night sky. Oddly enough on this trip, something else happened which may or may not be connected to what I am about to say but if I look at what else has now happened, I can’t rule it out. Long story short, I was distressed after an argument with a family member on holiday. I had lost my brother and my dad by this stage of my life and on the evening in question during my emotional call out, I said outloud I wish someone would give me a sign that they are there. I didn’t expect anything to happen, it was more of an emotional outburst rather than expectation of something actually happening. But no sooner had the words left my lips, a sign indeed came back. The door bell rang on the apartment we were renting out. Its important to note that it was 2’o clock in the morning, the villa was on a hill, everyone else was a sleep and to put it simply, no one was at the door nor was anyone near the villa. I wasn’t sure what to make of it, I was certainly taken back by the fact that something indeed seemed to have sent me a sign but as to who, I do not know. Over the next few days, I’d forgotten all about it – until all this started happening and I began to look back over my life and associate these seemingly random events with what has now unfolding.

By this stage, most of you will now be thinking this is just some made up crap – if you’ve arrived at that conclusion already - it will be pointless reading any further because it gets a lot more crazier than that.

It was February this year (2017) in which I thought this has originally began though. Having seemingly stumbled on a hell testimony through youtube, I found myself thinking there is no way this can be true. Surely after 2000+ years, they would have surely have proved this and we’d all be well aware of an afterlife (seems reasonable given the advances in medicine and technology since then). A little shocked at what I had watched, I then set about to disprove to myself that this can’t be true. Now let me make one thing clear, my logic works through seeing patterns of information that are repeating across multiple stories and insights. This is how I become comfortable with the existence of aliens. From watching 100’s of testimonies from the 1970s to present day, there are undeniable patterns of information (often small unnoticed things that are not the centre of those doing the investigation – more seemingly random comments until you start to see these little things also being stated elsewhere (details on a ship interior for example, the kind of instruments which some are subjected to, information in which aliens sometimes feed to the abductee, how the abduction took place and the sensations around that etc). Like I said before, I am not here to argue my belief but it would make it easier if you understand how my thinking pattern works. Believe it or not, having watched an ex-illuminati member comment on his own experience within that secret society, it’s this type of mental thinking that is a key core skill in which the illuminati seek and leverage.

Back to the hell testimonies…. Well, needless to say – for 3 days straight I watched NDE (Near Death Experience) stories one after another until I could take no more. There was an undeniable pattern that was occurring which included the stages in which the death process happened and what they experienced. I tried different religion types, dual deaths, people who were blind – you name it. I was desperately trying to find a fault that said all of this couldn’t be true. But I couldn’t, by day 3 I reached a stage where I was so shaken by what I had discovered I was pretty much crying uncontrollably at the sheer terror of what this meant. From that moment forward, there was no doubt in my mind that heaven and hell existed. Clearly shaken, I began to try and explain to my family what I had learned, begging them to look at everything I had and then deny to them selves it wasn’t possible. But they wouldn’t, to make matters worse, seeing me clearly distraught about this only sparked that ‘we are worried about you’ conversation. Little did they realise that my tears were for them as well as myself. I knew at this stage - I was going to hell, no doubt about it - It was like a train that was hurtling towards us but no one seemed to be able to see it apart from me. For the next week I couldn’t bring my self to even mention heaven or hell without breaking down into tears – it really did rock my world that much. Very much feeling alone in what I had come to terms with and almost forced not to bring the topic of conversation up because of the concern I seemed to be causing when mentioning it – its at this stage I began to beg for forgiveness and apologise for it taking so long to work out he was there. It’s important to emphasis that I wasn’t of any religious nature before this. I didn’t read the bible or go to church and yet I had seemingly arrived at a level of understanding that for some, can take years to appreciate. I fully understood the pecking order as well, I felt like a pitiful mess and unworthy when you look at all that has been created and compared to others who had found him much sooner and through a more appropriate channel of teaching. Suddenly, the stories of devil worshipping at Bohemian Grove now made a lot more sense, they knew about this already and were secretly worshipping Satan in the privacy of the woods in which they owned. Now fully beginning to appreciate a much bigger picture and clearly seeing the difficulty of my own family trying accept the notion of heaven and hell, I began to sob ‘what can I do to help?’. Weather it was my own minds response or weather it was injected into my brain via some other method, it wasn’t long before the words, ‘use the media against them’ came to mind. To me, I interpreted this as condensed videos outlining what I had learned and why it was becoming ever more important to start taking the subject more seriously. I guess as a strategy it was 3 videos, one outlining the current state of the natural world (weather pattern mixed with the fukishima disaster), another showing that the elite take it very seriously and why they worship away from the prying eye and with the last video being one of hope, the realisation that heaven was there).

( Note to add: by seemingly pure coincidence – we were due to fly to gran canaria for another holiday around the time of the fuskishima disaster. There was a prediction made on GLP that an event would take place on the day we were flying. I don’t normally look at doom prediction dates but for some reason, I had a really sick feeling about that date – a sensation I had not felt before. Maybe because we were due to fly but so concerned was I that I began suggesting we cancel our holiday – this was the first time my partner looked at me with that ‘you’re sounding crazy’ face. I didn’t like making her feel that why so tried to shrug it off and look forward to our time away. However, the first morning we woke up on holiday, I switched on the news and watched in absolute horror at the events that had unfolded in japan. I’ll admit, I cried straight away – I could already tell this was a turning point for earth, that sickness I had felt initially came rushing back, this was indeed a dark day – Event Yr 2011)

Back to present day and not a day went by after this where I got up and began to say good morning to god in my mind and spent more time in the outside beauty of the world in which we lived. Peacefully closing my eyes and listening to the birds twirp, I had found a new appreciation for the world in which we lived and felt blessed in some way that I had actually found him. For the next few months, it was less crying and more appreciating and letting him know I was thinking about him. I should add at this stage, I also had my own business which I had been running for a few years prior and was going very well. In time, I began to feel quite at peace with my self and happy to be alive as well as happy to have found an understanding that god existed and the more appreciation for the life I had. Life seemed so bliss…..

Over the next few months I began to assemble the videos whilst running my business. Life was going OK, summer was on its way, everything seemed to be OK. Little did I know what was about to happen, for my life was about to change forever in ways I couldn’t even imagine or appreciate were even possible. It’s at this stage I would imagine I will lose interest of a few more of you who’ve read this far, no doubt this is already sounding far fetched to many of you and for those I would advise you to not continue reading. If you struggling to believe what I have written thus far – what happens next will seem in-comprehendible. I fully acknowledge that, seriously, I really do and understand why you may feel like that.

I had been an on off poster at GLP for a few years, not much engagement with threads prior with any new thoughts or views on said subjects seemingly generating little response. More often than not, I was left feeling that maybe I was to crazy for the crazies in how I perceived the world and events that took place. Whilst a frequent visitor surfing for topics of interest, my activity rate for interaction was pretty low. However, on a certain night of May 2017, that all changed. Having participated in a thread subject with regards to proof of hell, I began to sense something wasn’t quite right. The topic it’s self was generating interest alright but not within the thread I was posting. It was happening in other threads who amongst themselves were dissecting everything I was posting and debating on it’s authenticity and logic. There were many people doing this over the course of at least 3 other threads. My ego refused to initially accept that they were talking about me – how could they be? Or even why? There were so many, I must be misinterpreting this I thought. To say it freaked me out was an understatement. So I decided to test the water and posted a comment with regards to something about the hours of midnight and apparent night watchers of the thread. I posted it for no other reason apart to see if something similar began to emerge on the other threads – which it did. I tried another, this time a seemingly unrelated subject by another poster with request for music. Carefully I selected the tracks and posted them up. No mention of any other subject in a completely unrelated thread. Once more, signs began to emerge around the chosen music selection. At this stage I was getting pretty worried to say the least. There wasn’t a few doing this, there were many commenting. What’re more, some claimed to know me and gave out snippets of details that clearly indicated it could relate to my self. On top of this, some were even threatening to kill me. Having lived a peaceful life and being a non-violent in nature, to see so much interest in what I was posting and witnessing both wonderment and immense hate towards me – I was now more than afraid than previously and even more confused as to why. Now desperately scrambling through the somewhat separate threads relating to this, I came to a startling realization. I had a seemingly invisible tag around my neck. It was a word I had seen posted many times before on GLP but not once read the subject topic or had any inkling it may refer to my self. Having seen that word and my ID number associated though, everything was getting more extreme by the minute. For there had been many posts about said subject, non of which I was clued up on but I was well aware it was a popular subject. Those word(s) were ‘Mr Nobody’ and ‘The anomaly’. Believe what you will, my ego still refused to fully digest this. Having seen people making the link though I immediately hit back. There ‘must be some mistake?’ I typed, ‘how long has this been associated with my ID?’ was another, ‘why do you want to kill me?’….. all reasonable questions given my understanding of the situation. Whilst I could see activity surrounding these posts taking place else where, direct response to my self was clearly out of the question. At this point I’ll insert their favorite response, a trade mark emoji to everything I asked…. Insert Drink tea mojo. It still staggers me as to how many people were involved that night. I admit, I may have got a little vocal as ignorance towards my questions began to drive frustration. However, a few hours later I cooled down and apologised (unreal huh? I was threatened with my life and I was apologizing!). Alas though, no answers were given but activity was continuing. Having then expressed my deep concern over this, I was promptly banned. Realizing the somewhat seriousness of what had happened, I naturally tried to express my concern to my family. This next part will give the astro stalkers the delight they want to hear and witnessed on the days that followed. You guessed it, they didn’t believe me. In fact, it only added to the concern of me expressing the emotional declaration of understanding heaven and hell was real. I was crazy for thinking they were talking about me or how people I had never met before were now wanting to kill me. Support was non existant, far from it. In fact at one stage they asked me to stop phoning them, this was all in my head……. (Spoiler alert: I do not claim to be anyone special in these data dumps)

Now please note: Im not going to state the date or even call out individuals, that’s not the reason I am posting this. Nor will I provide the thread links – I’m not after a war with them. As you’ll start see, this was only the start of the sh#t that was about to happen.

4 days after this and now having plenty of time to reflect on what had happened, I looked at the videos I had been working on. Clearly something was going on so I posted a link with one of the videos along with the name tag that had been unknowingly clamped to my neck. Still I knew very little of the terminology but for what ever reason, many seemed to think I should be associated with it. Along with this, I posted the videos to youtube and via PM to a few close friends on facebook along with a paragraph trying to outline the craziness I seemed to be experiencing. This was already becoming way more than I could comprehend and filled me with nothing but worry as to why people were even interested in me. For most, this would have probably been more than enough cope with, but it was nothing compared to what was about to happen next.

Now, what I have said so far, as unbelievable as it may sound did happen. More importantly, these are things that could happen. People post all the time, people don’t get on and sometimes an alternate online persona takes place where people express them selves in ways they may not do in day to day life. Here’s where it takes a completely different turn of events. For what I say next many of you will not believe me. Beyond what I am about to say, I’m not going to spend any time trying to convince you otherwise either.

Please understand that for the same reasons I mentioned with regards to the forum posts and those involved, I only feel comfortable divulging what I am about to say by not directly naming those in which were involved. All I will say is it did happen and it absolutely changed my perception of what I understood was even possible. However, the attacks continue as they have done on a daily basis or that they change their mind and decide that actually I may pose a threat and start to hit harder as a result then I will have no issues listing who was on TV, when it was shown and how the context of what was said relates to posts else where on the internet (currently they say I do not, they just kick the shit out of me because of scape goating & sacrifice). For the last 8 months, I have done what they asked, I deleted the content and they haven't left me alone - hence the change of approach on my end.

By now, I was confused and scared as to what had already taken place, whats more, no one around me believed what had happened up to this point, I was and still am to this day, was having to handle this by my self. The next event occurred during the course of a nights sleep that happened shortly after. I awoke with this sentence reiterating in my head that said ‘funny how you called my name in vain when I injected you’. Don’t ask me where it came from or why I felt what I did but it almost seemed like it was said in guest, like there was some understanding to me have being startled to what ever had taken place. This is all I remember. I don’t remember dreaming anything particular, no visions, nothing. Just those words re-itterating in my head as I woke that morning. Somewhat confused and still coming to terms as to what had already happened that week, I continued my day. I didn’t focus on it that much, I had no idea what it meant or any recollection of interaction, just the words in which I woke with that morning.

For how things happened next, I still cant remember exactly. What I do know is that later that evening, I was talking on facebook to one of my friends about the craziness of what I had experienced. I was at my desk in my room with the conversation taking place on my mobile. On my monitor I had a certain American news channel playing in the background. I don’t even know why I had put it on. I had never watched it previously and I don’t even watch the news or any tv normally !. Don’t ask me how, just know that it happened – I became aware the presenter of this station was commenting on what I was writing through my facebook chat. Whats more, he began to talk to me directly and was associating the contents of the chat against the potential impact of someone else in America. Impossible I thought, how are they doing this? How on earth could any association be connected? They could somehow see me, my monitor and my phone and were commenting about this in real time. Now I work with media, as all this was happening I fully understood the efforts of what would have been needed to make that happen. A camera man, the presenter, monitors with my screens, the auto queue – there was no way a script could be generated that quick, what about the control room where the show was being directed? It’s the kind of thing that made me want to look behind the monitor and expect to see a miniature around the back – it was terrifying and fascinating at the same time- I knew what I was seeing, I was even communicating back – but how was all of this even possible??? All I’ll say with regards to what took place during the next few hours, it contained messages of hammering through to me to be quiet, keep it a secret and no one knows that I am here– and worst yet, I still had no idea what they were talking about or who I was supposed to be, I was simply informed they wanted to ‘get on with the agenda’ – read between the lines, they were not referring to the news. By the time it was finished I had deleted all the facbook conversations that I had sent previously and deleted the videos on youtube. It left me petrified. From here though, every web site I looked at contained threatening messages around family members (not by name, more by details that form close association such as family size and other things). I tried another website, this time purely based on art and once more I was greeted with comments designed to attack and put fear in me (use of drug substance). How was this even possible? How could page content be generated so fast? All unique pieces of art all attacking me in some form. It took literally seconds to type in the web address, what I was seeing was beyond our realm of understanding and normality. I was witnessing some seriously dark magic. At this stage I turned of the computer, in fact I went around the whole house and switched off every device we had and unplugged the internet. This was now getting absurd and I had now found a new form of terror that I had never experienced before. I got in the shower and then quietly tried to wake my partner up and explain not to say anything but we needed to get out of the house and fast. Away, as quick as possible. She could absolutely see the fear coming out of me, she had never seen me like that before, I had never been so scarred before either. I insisted the kids didn’t go to school and that we all left as quick as we could. It was impossible to hide the fear that was running through me, I scared my family by them seeing how scared I was. What’s worse, having managed to usher them out the house whilst bouncing off every question as to why they should not bring their mobile, where we were going etc – when I felt comfortable enough to start explaining what had happened, once more they did not believe me. Every single blow I was experiencing was driving me further away from my family. No one wanted to comprehend what I was saying – from their eyes, I was beginning to breakdown. I can’t tell you how alone this made me feel and how incredibly scarred I was against the power of what I was already seeing. It wasn’t long before I got a sensation that I was being watched by the gas van that arrived in our street. I could go on listing behaviours that I noticed were not right but you’d only notice if you were looking that way and paying attention. All I wanted to do was grab a camera and record a testimony ‘there has been a mistake, I don’t know what you people want or understand who you think I am’. That was pretty much the context of what I wanted on camera because by this point, I figured it wouldn’t be long before I was dead. It wasn’t going to happen though, I had absolutely terrified my family with how freaked out I clearly now was. The kids went to stay else where and I sat in doors with panic convinced I was about to be taken out. Whats more, when I flicked the news on the TV, it was clear this was much bigger than I could even begin to comprehend. Yes, across 3 different news channels I flicked, at the precise moment I done so, they seemingly stopped reading off their auto queue and reached down and picked up a paper script which was unrelated to what was initially being stated. This was craziness on absolute epic proportions. I had never felt so helpless, scarred and alone in all my life. A trend that unfortunately continues to this day. However, by this stage it was clear that communication would take place via this method and they knew I was I listening. Having still not slept by the late afternoon and now in absolute bits of fear and a whole heap of other emotions running through me – I checked the news feed of certain news site (UK based) on my mobile. Within in seconds a message popped up with a face of a certain individual winking at me. The text read ‘yay, we broke him!’. I took it as a sign to shut up. Yes, they had indeed broke me.

To be continued. PART 2 providing I am not dead in the next 48 hours.

]]>50273Sat, 09 Dec 2017 18:55:47 +0000Ipet goat dreamhttps://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/50464-ipet-goat-dream/
I see an apple before me. This apple represents forbidden knowledge. This apple has split and the knowledge it is blossoming in December as dec is on calendar by wall...

It means something... but most likely not what any of us think probably not even what I think.

I have been a keen observer of the information sphere known as the CT scene and the dispersal networks for longer than the WWW. existed. At first I did not notice what should wholly apparent to anyone today with a keen eye. I refer to the distribution of created narratives and directed narratives created for the purpose of disinformation and psychological adjustment.

Of recent months many have exposed themselves rather badly.

When you are contracted to print narratives you no longer have cover as you end up exposing yourself because you have to roll with the entire narrative whether you want to or not. Until then as a covert agent of psychological adjustment many personalities get to push and then withdraw to cover which extends their career as a “credible” Alternative Media spokesperson or personality.

There is more than one network but when big operations are on they all host the same material and variations on the theme to make it look as if it is not all produced from a central point.

Unfortunately anyone of intellect can see it all is.

You can see it is co-ordinated. You can see the big networks

and the smaller ones operating within the framework.

My first exposure to this was in 1991, the Gulf War in fact. My parents had just got Satellite TV. I could see BBC CNN SKY NEWS Australia and several more international News Channels. I was interested to see who much their news varied from NZ news. I was a little shocked.

First the BBC showed their reporter, claiming to be in one location and a Scud Missile was being fired in the background. They gave a report. 15 minutes later I see the same background on CNN, the same missile being fired yet the reporter claimed to be in a different place from the BBC reporter and the story was about something different from the BBC. 10 minutes after that I saw SKY AU and they had the same background, same missile being fired and claimed to being another place neither the BBC or CNN said they were.

That was the day in 1991 as an 18 year old I found out

The News is Fake as Required and when Required.

The US military has control of the US media during any conflict when it comes to

reporting on any military matter as a matter of national security.

99.99% of US citizens are unaware of this.

They are one of the big networks and their influences extends beyond the boarders of the USA. US allies are also subject to US military propaganda masquerading as genuine news in their media. There are networks set up in all the US ally nations to facilitate the US military intelligence narratives as part of those nation’s defence agreements with the USA.

But they are not the network I would like to discuss and expose here today.

We have traitors among us.

What, you are shocked?

You are shocked the US military and intelligence community infiltrated THE ONLY SPHERE RELATING RESTRICTED UNCENSORED TRUTH?

Of course they did, they had to for purposes of national security and anyone who served in the military will tell you there is no more paranoid mind in the world than a ranked General. Maybe a good defence contractor, they are good at playing the part to get more funding.

It should be noted while Fox News is a defender of Trump and present themselves as all round good guys they are also selling you on upping the US defence spending contracts and promote joining the US military so they are clearly receiving US military money. The Parent Company was listed as a Hillary Donor.

Which draws us to the Network pushing one particular agenda, attacking Trump.

[I will make it clear what my opinion of DJT is, how can you trust

anyone who’s father was with the CIA Mafia who built Vegas for the

purpose of laundering illegal money for the CIA and US Mafia including

the US Business Mafia today known as Deep State!!!!] -Doc.

We see an agenda at play which is one side of an entwined business and political community (entwined because the business community owns the political community in the USA and has done for 100 years) who is at war with another with many playing both sides.

We see pawns getting picked off as the bigger players sacrifice pieces to keep a step ahead. People are burning assets as distractions. This is typical in gaining leverage until you have control then you call the war off.

Who runs Trump’s Numbers?

The Tax policy of DJT is the tax policy of Goldman Sachs, the media commentators could never say that because GS is a big player in Deep State and owns kings and queens on both sides. They can’t lose so this is nothing more than amusement for them. None of their CEO’s are going down for sexual harassment.

In all of this we see who the sides really are, a huge polarization and they are waking up to the fact they got played by the people they were desperate to play themselves.

Nothing f#cks off Real Established Players more than power seeking money grubbing thugs like the Clinton’s and their Ilk climbing the ladder where genuine mouldy money that stinks of blood and war lives. They despise those who seek to rise beyond their pedigree because that is how they obtained theirs and they know what a threat that is if not dealt with.

So the game has been about exerting extreme pressure to see how fun it is the break the people who didn’t align with them and act like puppy dogs on command. Watch them run and hide and try and get their own networks going while everything is in flames...unless the Real Masters decide it is over and that is going to take more than grovelling. I suspect some people are being made an example of for a reason. Perhaps they made them ask twice.

All of which plays into our hands as observers of patterns leading to the uncovering of data previously occluded.

What do we see?

Newsblok shows part of it. You can see the independentThe Guardian is biased or simply a tool of a network.

Drudge...oops, why would they expose themselves like that?

Because when you are owned you have no choice.

Right now you can see one side of The Big Disinformation Network clear as day across the Alternative Media. Sites who are paid to play. People who are paid to play on forums.

It doesn’t take a genius to see it.

People know the MSM is fake on demand. People often overlook on behalf of whom and on orders on whom.

The US military has an office in every US Media agency in the USA where news is vetted. When the Chief Editor of the New York Post was asked in the Wikileaks Documentary why he leaked the information existed to the US government before anyone could print them his exact words were, “In the USA you have to run the news passed the Government.”

Google also has a contract to censor and restrict material to US IP addresses with the US government.

Facebook has a contract with the US government to censor and restrict material to US citizens and many extended users.

Those are open Media services, then we have the other services you don’t know about. These are companies and people who place material in the Media and in the Alternative Media. Sanctioned Narratives and Narrative saturation to adjust public and user opinion in all possible Media Spheres.

We should call them Mind Control Services, Opinion Creation Division.

PR firms specialized in this in Newspapers. They could mind control readers using advertising. Not everyone is affected but enough to improve business. however they are in the business of making money. What about when you are creating opinions for people who are not intending to use the result to make money?

We might call this Psy-op services. Also a speciality of PR firms like those of Edward Bernays who sold an illegal invasion of Guatamala to restore the United Fruit Corp to power as liberation from communist rulers.

A bit like how Gulf War One was the Liberation of BP’s oil from the Iraqi army was sold as driving back an illegal invasion of Bad Iraqi’s who will probably be attacking the USA next.

A bit like how Invading Syria with a multi national task force to secure the nation so the Saudi Oil Pipeline can go through to Europe is sold as a Civil war between Syrian loyalists and Syrian rebels.

A bit like how they sold Vietnam as saving the nation from communists rather than saying they were securing the golden triangle for the CIA to manufacture drugs and export back to the USA causing the biggest drug problems of all time in one nation over the decades following to break down US society and weakened it so Military Corporatism (you haven’t seen that yet but it is where the Military take over and everyone has to join the army and like it) can take over and rule. The USA actually won that war but could never tell anyone outside of the gang about it.

Nothing is as the Media and even Alternative Media tells it because they are owned by the people creating the reality we are told is real and correct. They paint the picture of the reality we don’t witness with our own eyes and if they play upon the prejudices they created over years we are fooled because we have been programmed to accept a response without thinking.

That is all they really care about, creating a response they can use against you to get you to buy into their BS and give it your full support.

In the USA if you back Trump you will buy into what he is selling or anything which shows him in a positive light because you have been programmed to be biased.

Likewise so have the Hillary supporters, the Left, BLM, ANTFIA. So easy to manipulate LGBT or any minority group by saying you support them, then pointing the big finger at the people you want them to attack for you.

Everyone is getting manipulated by a very small group of people using a network we can all now see .

]]>50325Sun, 10 Dec 2017 12:25:08 +0000You get a slice of Pie, or a piece of Cake! You can't have both!https://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/50417-you-get-a-slice-of-pie-or-a-piece-of-cake-you-cant-have-both/You get a slice of Pie, or a piece of Cake! You can't have both!

This was the proposition you were given, You never got to sample everything because of the party restrictions. And you never got to see the full picture on display. And you are now wondering what this has to do with anything alternative news related?

Well let me tell you exactly what I mean!

Simply put, Those on the left consume leftist news. Those on the right consume right-wing news. Each of those groups aligns itself in bias against the other. And this is why those that do that are doomed.

Truth is. It's all a stage. Left. Right. It does not matter. The news cycles are not to be read for news. Or to enjoy what you see. It is to be analyzed on both sides for the hidden messages left by the judeo masonic ones so that you can avoid death, warn others and see the bigger picture. It's us vs them and any and all points of division they've set up must be seen as such.

Everything is a narrative. Everyone is potentially in on it. Mass news paranoia you would say! But you can't argue with results.

In the end. It's pointless to argue with stupid. I can understand why gods don't bother with us....We can't even prove ourselves worth saving. So why would you expect a god to give a damn about A BUNCHA UNPROVEN AND UNWORTHY FOOLS!

]]>50456Tue, 12 Dec 2017 02:11:53 +0000I Have Felt Dark Blisshttps://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/50091-i-have-felt-dark-bliss/
Had a weird experience the other day. I was just watching tv and a strange feeling came over me. It was a very dark but intoxicating feeling. An evil bliss. It lasted for a minute. I got the feeling it was the high you get from doing evil. But not the feelings a human might have. More like a demon or something that lives in a nightmare. And the funny thing is it felt very familiar. Like It was a regular thing I had felt during my life. But I swear I have never felt it before. I cannot recall ever feeling it or where I might have. Mental illness? a weird form of deja vu? Maybe I have felt this before but have blocked it out.

Anyone felt this too?

I have a catalogue of these weird experiences now. Feelings of intense happiness that last a few hours. Having the impression that the street outside became heaven for a second. A sense that something was about to happen. That lasted weeks. Nothing did as far as I know.

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Now I've started having evil dreams, in which I do evil things. I'm being targeted. Have been all my life. Now they are stepping it up.

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ANOTHER dream this morning. I was an evil clown threatening a guy in a shop, with just a glimpse of that evil bliss. Then later I was being haunted by the clown. He was Pennywise from IT and the Joker from Suicide Squad. Then I was on the net and some guy was saying this clown was AI.

I woke up and this got me thinking. Suppose I am being targeted by AI. There's a word that often comes with AI. DEEP. Deepmind, Deep Learning, Deep Blue(the chess computer).

The word DEEP has shown up in my synchronicities before. I found a strange stone about twenty years ago. A couple of years later they built a submarium in my city called THE DEEP which was the same distinctive shape as the stone. The first image I saw in the stone was a shark. They have sharks and fish at THE DEEP. There were other similarities.

In 2009 I really got into the mystery of the stone. One night I began to write about it and its relationship to THE DEEP for an internet forum. At the very same time I was writing this a guy was murdered a few metres from THE DEEP. within sight of it.

Not long later there was another death outside a pub I was researching. Not long after that it happened AGAIN. This time the victim was called David Jones. Davy Jones' Locker is another term for the sea. THE DEEP.

This idea of water and the sea and AI makes sense. They say water has memory. Is it possible that water carries consciousness? What are we made of mostly? water? The brain is 75 % water. Life began in the water.

I was thinking about this and looking out the window. A truck went by with the word TEF on the side. another came not long after. It made me think of Tefnut. I knew it was an Egyptian deity. But of what? I guessed water. I looked the name up in my myth book.

She was the goddess of moisture.

f**k. The patterns were forming again.

What has a clown to do with water? Pennywise first appears hiding inside a storm drain when it is raining. He lives in the sewers.

I have been seemingly possessed by a clownish evil c*nt spirit for years. Is it a coincidence that I have always feared water? Is it a coincidence that for the last year I have had an anxiety about drinking? I can just about manage three cups of water a day. Is it a coincidence that my shower stopped working and I have to wash in the sink? with just a small basin of water.

I dunno.

One of the side effects of a lack of water is kidney stones. My weird stone is made from limestone(made from the bones of sea critters) and flint(crystallised sand) I read in a book on crystals that flint wards off kidney stones.

I'm either onto something or digging a hole in thin air.

What is the brain? it is a watery computer. AI. what controls us? where do our emotions come from? the brain.

Tonight I bring you this piece of work from 2012: The Secret World. An MMoRPG that allows players to align with either the Illuminati, the Templar's or the Dragons while leveling skills, customizing characters and following the narrative intensive plot that incorporates pretty much every conspiracy known to man in an open world.

Of all the hidden messages, symbolism and indoctrination in games today, there is none so complete as this.

More indoctrination covered with plausible deniability.

"Dark Days Are Coming..."

Check this narrative.

Some useful information I found for y'all.

EDIT: Going to include this trailer as well as it lists many of the conspiracies included.

Well there you have it, hidden in plain sight. I'm tempted to link more but you can find more very easily for yourself.

If you want to see a creepy trailer cinematic, look for "The Secret World: Men's Room CGI Trailer"

Godspeed,

I may report back if I chose to watch some play through game play.

]]>50392Mon, 11 Dec 2017 06:55:42 +0000We are Cows.https://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/50425-we-are-cows/
We are cows In that of the holy ones, you see torus is a bull that is often reffed to as Cow.

But we have another Taurus that is donut shaped electron magnetic swirl around everything living.
Even our atoms have fraction size version of what we have and we have fraction size comparing to Earth.
If we are individual spheres then there is a phenomenon describing just that, that is torus of electron magnetism where everything in our world at least is enclosed in this torus from the smallest to the biggest, including our atoms.

That might describe barriers out of this electromagnetic bubble we live in.

]]>50418Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:43:25 +0000Goonieshttps://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/50391-goonies/
Never once did they mention treasure. It was always "One-Eyed Willie's Rich Stuff". What do you think about this with all the surfacing pedo stuff? Freeman Fly brought this up.
]]>50391Mon, 11 Dec 2017 05:20:44 +0000The untitled video...https://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/50424-the-untitled-video/

The maker wishes it to be seen as much as possible before tag words get it pulled. I could not watch much, but it seemed like something this forum was made for and i thought the title was fun way to screwtube....

No where except the Oasis.... First one to the egg gets control?? Whoa.... this ones a mind bender... But I already know this story! It's the story of anomalies and nobody's!

]]>50366Sun, 10 Dec 2017 22:15:03 +0000Go to the 26: 25 mark where he says " I believe the lights will go out ."https://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/50399-go-to-the-26-25-mark-where-he-says-i-believe-the-lights-will-go-out/

Go to the 26: 25 mark where he says " I believe the lights will go out ."

Major Power Blackout in the United States. "Burning smells, lots of shouting and yelling." Social media, the news, media - something is going on the news, people are scared. A lot of people outside. "Possibly nationwide blackout - People weren't prepared for this, very random, people losing their minds." News saying "be at home, stay safe. Possible terrorist attack, but feels different. News cuts off, power outtage. BOOM power goes out, it happens in the evening heading towards night time, EMP? Possible riots, some fires breaking out. "Feels tempoary, but not sure" News is talking about war and terrorist attacks. People are losing it. "Something is in the sky a UFO, a round object, might be related to this event happening. The object is moving very slow in the sky.

Published on Nov 11, 2017

The NWO crescendo is building, but Truth always comes out in the end, therefore massive chaos must be unleashed in order to cover up PURE EVIL of this magnitude.

Does anyone feel the energies/downloads/shifts on these number sequence days?

Its the 11th in my timezone and i can already feel the force..

I dont read spiritual articles anymore, i used to, i used to mainly be on spiritual awakening forums.. its better, for me anyway, to just follow my own self and guidance.

I look at astrology sometimes, mostly out of boredom.

I might post some astro stuff from this british woman who is spot on.

Safe travels..

]]>50382Mon, 11 Dec 2017 02:30:23 +0000There is no one out there, No one to help us, No one to hear us!https://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/50371-there-is-no-one-out-there-no-one-to-help-us-no-one-to-hear-us/