Notes:PPPrepMeeting

Note: these are unfiltered notes; we basically sat together for an afternoon, doing mailinglist conversations but in real life iso via mail. No decisions were made, just discussing ideas with each other. Some ideas were more generally agreed upon than others, but might be hard to extract out of the notes.

Structure buildup of party

crews

you should be able to join more than one crew !

what is the use of membership of a crew; how does it affect your voting power?

squads

tijdelijk = project

permanent = thematic

piraten van vershillende crews

fleets

collection of crews with similar goals

temporary

can this be responsible for e.g. provincial work

does this break bottom up? Yes!!!

fleet is created for a common object

how will the decision process be?

in antwerp inter-crew works

people are member of a seperate crew

so similar workings as a crew

essen did not join; participation is opt-in

how many people are on a standard meeting; not that many

what goes in statutes, what goes in house-rules

statutes should be able to go for 20 years

house rules are very adaptable, by "the board" of the "organisation"

membership and privacy

should membership of pirate party be private?

its troublesome if crews can get a list of members in their area

levels

private: no access for crews for your info

limited: not on the internet, but available to internal members of the party

3 elected court members that (supposedly) have knowledge on arbitration, that speak french and dutch on a reasonable level.

or maybe: make elected pool of x people of which 3 people are picked by lottery per case

8 decided by lottery. lottery is done at the same time as election.

for a certain period

decision of court is validated by liquid feedback system;

only valid when accepted by liquid feedback

coordination team

election for coordination team positions: done per function

if responsibilities need to be switched around; the coordination team can propose this, but liquid feedback validation required?

external (helping as a member for core things) or internal functions (members of coordination team are doing it)?

external: easier to switch responsibilities around

internal: greater responsibilites on actors, higher chance that things will get done

election coordination team

in parts (continuity) or complete new board every elections

for specific positions or just membership of board

liquid democracy in statutes

we mention the principle

we do not refer to any implementation

on the EGA: vote for "internal rules" containing only:

liquid feedback is used to modify the bylaws

region focussed or not

coordination team should not be regionally partitioned

in the future: no description of region specific management?

do we organise explicitly towards regions in the statutes or are we region agnostic

languages: coordition team members should speak both dutch and french to a reasonable degree

two press-responsibles in core team; per language, which is language specific rather than region specific

coordinators:

many

not region specific

make sure both dutch and french are well presented under the coordinators

also look to German, English skills?

prop: 4 coordinators, each one for one language: french, dutch, german, english

prop: 4 coordinators; it'll work

prop: 3 coordinators; one per region

composition coordination team

1 secretaris

1 accountant

2 international coordinators

3 press responsibles (3 native languages: french, dutch, german)

1 IT/DB coordinator

5 "crew and squad" coordinators

if you can't fill a seat, it stays vacant untill next GA

general assembly

who can vote:

everyone that is member

transitive voting:

proxy vote: not more than one proxy vote per present pirate at GA

notification about GA: how much time in advance?

2 months before: notification

1 month before: proposals are in

2 weeks before: amendments are in

who can call for a GA?

coordination team: each year compulsory

proposal via liquid democracy for a GA by the pirates: if normal majority, GA happens

who defines the order of points in the GA

coordination team makes order of the points on the agenda

we are open to better system but don't havea any ideas on how to do this better

how does liquid democracy work

internal rules define voting system:

follow rules of liquid democracy

yes/no votes make up %

quora of 10%

voting

red and green cards system

public governance

yes; not structure; not in statutes

list formation

who has to vote on the list

communal elections:

provincial elections

regional elections

federal elections

european elections

proposals
1. per district: east-flanders chooses east-flanders people for flanders election for district east-flanders
2. per election area level: flanders election: everyone in east-flanders elects all district lists
3. all pirates of all of belgium always decide on all lists

using liquid democracy other members can raise concerns about lists in other locations and make it a national issue.