Students affiliated with the Black Lives Matter movement crashed an event at the College of William & Mary, rushed the stage, and prevented the invited guest—the American Civil Liberties Union's Claire Gastañaga, a W & M alum—from speaking.

Ironically, Gastañaga had intended to speak on the subject, "Students and the First Amendment."

The disruption was livestreamed on BLM at W&M's Facebook page. Students took to the stage just a few moments after Gastañaga began her remarks. At first, she attempted to spin the demonstration as a welcome example of the kind of thing she had come to campus to discuss, commenting "Good, I like this," as they lined up and raised their signs. "I'm going to talk to you about knowing your rights, and protests and demonstrations, which this illustrates very well. Then I'm going to respond to questions from the moderators, and then questions from the audience."

It was the last remark she was able to make before protesters drowned her out with cries of, "ACLU, you protect Hitler, too." They also chanted, "the oppressed are not impressed," "shame, shame, shame, shame," (an ode to the Faith Militant's treatment of Cersei Lannister in Game of Thrones, though why anyone would want to be associated with the religious fanatics in that particular conflict is beyond me), "blood on your hands," "the revolution will not uphold the Constitution," and, uh, "liberalism is white supremacy."

This went on for nearly 20 minutes. Eventually, according to the campus's Flat Hat News, one of the college's co-organizers of the event handed a microphone to the protest's leader, who delivered a prepared statement. The disruption was apparently payback for the ACLU's principled First Amendment defense of the Charlottesville alt-right's civil liberties.

Organizers then canceled the event; some members of the audience approached the podium in an attempt to speak with Gastañaga, but the protesters would not permit it. They surrounded Gastañaga, raised their voices even louder, and drove everybody else away.

While I have serious issues with police tactics and use of force, this is why I can't ever get on board with the BLM movement. They are freaking lunatics that are edging closer to antifa and their asinine and dangerous anti free speech positions. The ACLU is dedicated to protecting minority positions and their right to speak their mind, and these clowns say they represent white supremacy?

Original Quill wrote:If you don't think black lives matter, join in with the cops. They don't either.

black lives splatter

_________________“Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize,ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief."

If I had posted that, Foul would have basemented me.I wonder if he will do the right thing.

for what???

opposing a black supremacist domestic terror group??

i dont think foul will boot me for opposing terrorism

_________________“Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize,ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief."

I wont bump you this time since you have already "explained" yourself, BUT I will ask (tell) you to think before you print as it were...... your statement above could easily be taken as an endorsement of violence against ALL black people rather than merely against this particular group, whom you see as a terrorist group.

ambiguity will not be held as an excuse for any racist posting (ask stormee)

I am giving you the benefit of the doubt this time, since on rejoining you did so with a "clean slate"....in future THINK before posting

thanks...

_________________If at any time in 2017 I have annoyed you, pissed you off or said the wrong thing....Suck it up snowflake, cause 2018 AINT gonna be any different

There are those who's opinion I value, there are those who's opinion I neither value or scorn, and then there are those who's opinion I just ignore as insignificant...I can assure you the latter outnumber the first two combined by a whole order of magnitude

[b].(It's hard to remember that the task is to drain the swamp, when you are up to your arse in alligators)

I wont bump you this time since you have already "explained" yourself, BUT I will ask (tell) you to think before you print as it were...... your statement above could easily be taken as an endorsement of violence against ALL black people rather than merely against this particular group, whom you see as a terrorist group.

ambiguity will not be held as an excuse for any racist posting (ask stormee)

I am giving you the benefit of the doubt this time, since on rejoining you did so with a "clean slate"....in future THINK before posting

thanks...

ok thats fine

but i was thinking

I thought the "black lives splatter" play on "black lives matter" was not brilliantly clever and very obvious , especially considering the context??

no??

guess ill have to break out the crayons and pictures since ambiguity seems to be such an issue.

trust me foul, Im not one these shithouse cowards that pack this forum to the rafters, I don't do ambiguity.

I do in your face obvious

_________________“Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize,ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief."

@Smelly, I would make sure you have plenty of crayons, there are those here who are of that strange group that become offended on behalf of their particular favoured group, whilst not actually being of that group and yet many more who have a distinct lack of that Brit speciality known as gallows humour.

_________________If at any time in 2017 I have annoyed you, pissed you off or said the wrong thing....Suck it up snowflake, cause 2018 AINT gonna be any different

There are those who's opinion I value, there are those who's opinion I neither value or scorn, and then there are those who's opinion I just ignore as insignificant...I can assure you the latter outnumber the first two combined by a whole order of magnitude

[b].(It's hard to remember that the task is to drain the swamp, when you are up to your arse in alligators)

I wont bump you this time since you have already "explained" yourself, BUT I will ask (tell) you to think before you print as it were...... your statement above could easily be taken as an endorsement of violence against ALL black people rather than merely against this particular group, whom you see as a terrorist group.

ambiguity will not be held as an excuse for any racist posting (ask stormee)

I am giving you the benefit of the doubt this time, since on rejoining you did so with a "clean slate"....in future THINK before posting

thanks...

ok thats fine

but i was thinking

I thought the "black lives splatter" play on "black lives matter" was not brilliantly clever and very obvious , especially considering the context??

no??

guess ill have to break out the crayons and pictures since ambiguity seems to be such an issue.

trust me foul, Im not one these shithouse cowards that pack this forum to the rafters, I don't do ambiguity.

I do in your face obvious

Like who...and why?I think most people here speak their minds honestly.

I thought the "black lives splatter" play on "black lives matter" was not brilliantly clever and very obvious , especially considering the context??

no??

guess ill have to break out the crayons and pictures since ambiguity seems to be such an issue.

trust me foul, Im not one these shithouse cowards that pack this forum to the rafters, I don't do ambiguity.

I do in your face obvious

Like who...and why?I think most people here speak their minds honestly.

what do you mean like who??

like YOU

_________________“Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize,ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief."

because you avoid difficult discussions and challenges to your narrative is why.

when faced with an uncomfortable truth you divert with humour or simply ignore the discomfort as if its not been raised.

_________________“Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize,ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief."

because you avoid difficult discussions and challenges to your narrative is why.

when faced with an uncomfortable truth you divert with humour or simply ignore the discomfort as if its not been raised.

I tend to avoid some of the political threads because they don't interest me.I never avoid answering questions..... and what's wrong with a bit of humour?

You on the other hand are often like a stuck record....continuously repeating the same point doesn't make for a good debate imo.

that's kinda the problem

i keep having to repeat the same point because you keep avoiding it, perhaps if you addressed the point the debate could evolve.

_________________“Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize,ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief."

I tend to avoid some of the political threads because they don't interest me.I never avoid answering questions..... and what's wrong with a bit of humour?

You on the other hand are often like a stuck record....continuously repeating the same point doesn't make for a good debate imo.

that's kinda the problem

i keep having to repeat the same point because you keep avoiding it, perhaps if you addressed the point the debate could evolve.

Ahhh...but I do answer the points you make (repeatedly) and I also throw in different points to discuss, which you often skirt round in your quest to hammer home ONE point.What you really mean is you don't have the power to persuade me into your way of thinking.

i keep having to repeat the same point because you keep avoiding it, perhaps if you addressed the point the debate could evolve.

Ahhh...but I do answer the points you make (repeatedly) and I also throw in different points to discuss, which you often skirt round in your quest to hammer home ONE point.What you really mean is you don't have the power to persuade me into your way of thinking.

im not trying to "persuade" you into any way of thinking.

if you cant see the flaws in your way of thinking then there is no way in hell i can show them to you

_________________“Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize,ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief."

Ahhh...but I do answer the points you make (repeatedly) and I also throw in different points to discuss, which you often skirt round in your quest to hammer home ONE point.What you really mean is you don't have the power to persuade me into your way of thinking.

im not trying to "persuade" you into any way of thinking.

if you cant see the flaws in your way of thinking then there is no way in hell i can show them to you

if you cant see the flaws in your way of thinking then there is no way in hell i can show them to you

Move along then, go try to annoy someone else.

things getting a bit uncomfortable for you eh??

ok ill leave you to your "safe space"

_________________“Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize,ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief."

_________________"Do not be people without minds of your own, saying that if others treat you well you will treat them well, and that if they do wrong you will do wrong to them. Instead, accustom yourselves to do good if people do good and not to do wrong (even) if they do evil.” — Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)

_________________If at any time in 2017 I have annoyed you, pissed you off or said the wrong thing....Suck it up snowflake, cause 2018 AINT gonna be any different

There are those who's opinion I value, there are those who's opinion I neither value or scorn, and then there are those who's opinion I just ignore as insignificant...I can assure you the latter outnumber the first two combined by a whole order of magnitude

[b].(It's hard to remember that the task is to drain the swamp, when you are up to your arse in alligators)

Unfortunately, it's a very simple issue. No snags, no further entailments...unless you put them there.

Either black lives matter, or they do not. What? Are you of the ilk that says: they can matter but don't talk about it?

Yes black lives matter. The question is are the antics of the group with the same name helping their cause?

You are giving us code for: black lives matter, but don't let them talk about it! Old Russian tactic: let them think what they want; only punish them for going public about it. The maneuver goes back to Romanov Czar Nicholas II, and the St. Petersburg massacre of 1905:

Day in History wrote:Russia had become more corrupt and oppressive than ever before. Plagued by the fear that his line would not continue—his only son, Alexis, suffered from hemophilia—Nicholas fell under the influence of such unsavory characters as Grigory Rasputin, the so-called mad monk.* * * *On January 22, 1905, a group of workers led by the radical priest Georgy Apollonovich Gapon marched to the czar’s Winter Palace in St. Petersburg to make their demands. Imperial forces opened fire on the demonstrators, killing and wounding hundreds.

Sound familiar? The white supremacists today are "plagued by the fear" that racial hegemony of whites will be challenged if groups like Black Lives Matter are permitted to demonstrate. Hence, the criticism of their "antics"...code, meaning letting them talk about it.

Russians don't really understand America--it's their great folly. For example, they use grammatical errors such as, "The question is are..." (This is the reason why they must collude with Americans like Trump.) So, first they tried to inspire backlashes like Charlottesville, but that turned into a cluster-fuck because conservatives really are kin to Neo-Nazis. (Russians have their own form of Red, so they can't discern Pink.) Now they are simply using the same tactic they used against Hillary: infiltrate websites and gin up disfavor with the left specifically, and the west generally. And, of course, never, never say anything bad about Putin.

Yes black lives matter. The question is are the antics of the group with the same name helping their cause?

You are giving us code for: black lives matter, but don't let them talk about it! Old Russian tactic: let them think what they want; only punish them for going public about it. The maneuver goes back to Romanov Czar Nicholas II, and the St. Petersburg massacre of 1905:

Day in History wrote:Russia had become more corrupt and oppressive than ever before. Plagued by the fear that his line would not continue—his only son, Alexis, suffered from hemophilia—Nicholas fell under the influence of such unsavory characters as Grigory Rasputin, the so-called mad monk.* * * *On January 22, 1905, a group of workers led by the radical priest Georgy Apollonovich Gapon marched to the czar’s Winter Palace in St. Petersburg to make their demands. Imperial forces opened fire on the demonstrators, killing and wounding hundreds.

Sound familiar? The white supremacists today are "plagued by the fear" that racial hegemony of whites will be challenged if groups like Black Lives Matter are permitted to demonstrate. Hence, the criticism of their "antics"...code, meaning letting them talk about it.

Russians don't really understand America--it's their great folly. For example, they use grammatical errors such as, "The question is are..." (This is the reason why they must collude with Americans like Trump.) So, first they tried to inspire backlashes like Charlottesville, but that turned into a cluster-fuck because conservatives really are kin to Neo-Nazis. (Russians have their own form of Red, so they can't discern Pink.) Now they are simply using the same tactic they used against Hillary: infiltrate websites and gin up disfavor with the left specifically, and the west generally. And, of course, never, never say anything bad about Putin.

Good luck, Russ 2.0...

They can talk all they want.

Do you think shouting down the ACLU is a good idea?

Do you believe liberalism is white supremacy?

While I support all speech, I can acknowledge that much of it is silly. Calling the ALCU white supremacists would fall into that category.