Re: Georgia Lacrosse 2013

Buford probably recruited some lax players, like they do for football. There are some games on their schedule that they can win.... Mountain View, Parkview, North Springs, Riverside Mill Academy, Gainesville, etc...
I wonder if Buford got the North Gwinnett people to make their schedule?

Northview definitely has a front heavy schedule playing Lambert, Westminster, Pope, Decatur, and Riverwood from 2/19-3/23. We should have a good idea about their team by then.

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Originally Posted by Mantequilla

Buford probably recruited some lax players, like they do from football. There are some games on their schedule that they can win.... Mountain View, Parkview, North Springs, Riverside Mill Academy, Gainesville, etc...
I wonder if Buford got the North Gwinnett people to make their schedule?

Northview definitely has a front heavy schedule playing Lambert, Westminster, Pope, Decatur, and Riverwood from 2/19-3/23. We should have a good idea about their team by then.

Re: Georgia Lacrosse 2013

Originally Posted by FOGODad

Well said. I was on the lookout for The Blackhawks (Mill Creek) at both GT 7x7s.
They conducted themselves just fine; parents were very nice. From what I saw, their JV can beat their Varsity now. Mill Creek should be fine at least by next year.

The attackman from Decatur, believe he transferred from PA, has elite speed. Fun to watch!

Mill Creek and the Blackhawks are Rec and Daddy ball teams. Mill Creek HS had their Tryouts. No Blackhawks got cut even the worst players. None of the Coaches kids got cut. If you what to play for MCHS just pay your money to the Blackhawks. The two smallest and slowest kids, Christian Braun and Henry Zeleski made the team over better, bigger and faster players. I just feel sorry for the kids that got cut because they didn't pay money to the Blackhawks or dad wasn't there to give them their spot.

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Mill Creek HS has a coaching staff with no Lacrosse knowledge. It is daddy ball. The coaches kids are some of the worst player on the the team. They only made the team because of their Dads because they are not good enough to make it on their own. The real players know more about lacrosse then the coaches could. Mill Creek will be a joke this year.

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Originally Posted by jamjohnson

Mill Creek and the Blackhawks are Rec and Daddy ball teams. Mill Creek HS had their Tryouts. No Blackhawks got cut even the worst players. None of the Coaches kids got cut. If you what to play for MCHS just pay your money to the Blackhawks. The two smallest and slowest kids, Christian Braun and Henry Zeleski made the team over better, bigger and faster players. I just feel sorry for the kids that got cut because they didn't pay money to the Blackhawks or dad wasn't there to give them their spot.

Originally Posted by jamjohnson

Mill Creek HS has a coaching staff with no Lacrosse knowledge. It is daddy ball. The coaches kids are some of the worst player on the the team. They only made the team because of their Dads because they are not good enough to make it on their own. The real players know more about lacrosse then the coaches could. Mill Creek will be a joke this year.

well somebody got cut from the team.

And farside, pope plays an out of state game, and lassiter plays quite a few playoff teams (looks like 8 or 9) as well as two out of state games

Everyone that still posts around here is either CRGOD or a total moron

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And farside, pope plays an out of state game, and lassiter plays quite a few playoff teams (looks like 8 or 9) as well as two out of state games

Originally Posted by jamjohnson

Mill Creek HS has a coaching staff with no Lacrosse knowledge. It is daddy ball. The coaches kids are some of the worst player on the the team. They only made the team because of their Dads because they are not good enough to make it on their own. The real players know more about lacrosse then the coaches could. Mill Creek will be a joke this year.

So we have a forum about LAX in Georgia and how teams will possibly fare and then someone with a low IQ attacks young men personally by name? Wow - impressive. Mill Creek being a joke would appear to be more of a reflection on the parents involved up there who lack class and attack players by name. Guess the "respect for the game" and "honoring the Creator" never reached to the few and scattered brain cells of whomever JamJohnson is.

Re. Decatur - I have a feeling a lot of folks are going to be surprised by them. Their performance in the Ga Tech 7v7 was pretty impressive. Not only do they have speed and good athletes, their ball awareness was incredible.

Let's talk LAX - leave young men and their names out of this. Your post smacks of a "Dad" whose son just didn't quiet make the cut.

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Originally Posted by DBallCoach

So we have a forum about LAX in Georgia and how teams will possibly fare and then someone with a low IQ attacks young men personally by name? Wow - impressive. Mill Creek being a joke would appear to be more of a reflection on the parents involved up there who lack class and attack players by name. Guess the "respect for the game" and "honoring the Creator" never reached to the few and scattered brain cells of whomever JamJohnson is.

Re. Decatur - I have a feeling a lot of folks are going to be surprised by them. Their performance in the Ga Tech 7v7 was pretty impressive. Not only do they have speed and good athletes, their ball awareness was incredible.

Let's talk LAX - leave young men and their names out of this. Your post smacks of a "Dad" whose son just didn't quiet make the cut.

Wow..you're right..what a bush comment from a very low class bush individual.. I can only hope to god this is a kid with hurt feelings..and not a parent.. I can tell you this is NO ONE who represents the Mill Creek LAX community... I hope one day they'll regret the comments they made

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Originally Posted by RELAXER59

Wow..you're right..what a bush comment from a very low class bush individual.. I can only hope to god this is a kid with hurt feelings..and not a parent.. I can tell you this is NO ONE who represents the Mill Creek LAX community... I hope one day they'll regret the comments they made

The truth is the truth. I guess some people like to bury their heads in the sand!!

Re: Georgia Lacrosse 2013

Originally Posted by yoggi

If you want to talk about lacrosse do it here. If you want a place to talk about your feelings, invest in a diary.

Well said.

So back to LAX - I am curious why some on here think LAX is so weak down South and in Georgia, when it seems we can put teams / programs together and compete well up North. I've watched Copperhead teams (their U19 Orange) win several tournaments in Annapolis and other spots. My opinion of Northern tournaments are the fields are generally not as good and the officiating I saw was weak. They also tend to have a huge drop off of talent in anyone area when you get past that "one team." It seems the better refs actually travel down South to work (Charlotte Fall Classic had quiet a few refs from Upstate New York). And while some say Fall Ball is diluted here due to football that is changing. I watched some very competitive play in Charlotte and Florida this Fall from Georgia teams (Copperheads, Crease, North Gwinnett, and Mill Creek or Blackhawks - whichever way you want to call them).

I think what we see is such a large number of programs with a ton of youth - and your right - to much Daddy Ball coaching. But remember - it was those "Daddy Ball Coaches" who got the programs up and running down here.

Can't wait for Spring High School season to start to see if last year elevated the programs.

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So back to LAX - I am curious why some on here think LAX is so weak down South and in Georgia, when it seems we can put teams / programs together and compete well up North.

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I think what we see is such a large number of programs with a ton of youth - and your right - to much Daddy Ball coaching. But remember - it was those "Daddy Ball Coaches" who got the programs up and running down here.

Can't wait for Spring High School season to start to see if last year elevated the programs.

It's seen as weak because it is weak. If you compare U15, U13, etc teams in the south to teams up north it's almost, if not even play. The difference is high school and the lack of continued (and finer) development at that level, primarily due to the lack of A) consistent B) quality and C) quantity of coaches. Daddy ball happens in every sport, nothing new there. It is definitely sad when it influences the high schools though.

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Originally Posted by Beta26

It's seen as weak because it is weak. If you compare U15, U13, etc teams in the south to teams up north it's almost, if not even play. The difference is high school and the lack of continued (and finer) development at that level, primarily due to the lack of A) consistent B) quality and C) quantity of coaches. Daddy ball happens in every sport, nothing new there. It is definitely sad when it influences the high schools though.

So I'll disagree. Great thing in this world...we all have our opinions. I've coached and helped coach local teams and watched Copperheads, Crease, BamaLax, and several Florida teams compete up North. While we are a few years behind on player development (and further behind on coaching) the athleticism down South is above what we are facing up North. Copperheads Orange won several Northern Tier tournaments, and I heard the Blackhawks "classless and thug ball" beat Six Nation and was competitive against the Canadians. Ever watched Six Nation play - talk about expecting to just walk out and get a trophy.

So I'll defer to the more experienced players / coaches - but I think we are hitting strides for improvement.!

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GA lacrosse really cant compare to the north. There has yet to be a southern team to win the AA division in any major tournament. Our top programs can't hold a candle to the top teams at Li express, tri-state, Crabs, FCA, FLG, Patriots, Dukes, etc... The southern teams usually go up and compete in the A division and get some wins, but the difference between A and AA is massive. Now southern teams usually do have superior athletes, but they usually don't have the ball handling skills and lacrosse IQ.

Everyone that still posts around here is either CRGOD or a total moron

Re: Georgia Lacrosse 2013

Alright guys, the season has officially started. With teams getting their first practices in and schedules posted, are there any big-time games to go and watch this season? With the new regions in 6A, what new 6A games look to be exciting match-ups? Any 6A vs 5A stints to catch? Lots of teams looking different this year.

"When you think you want it, you'll do it. When you KNOW you NEED it, you'll do more." - ME!

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Originally Posted by houndslaxer12

GA lacrosse really cant compare to the north. There has yet to be a southern team to win the AA division in any major tournament. Our top programs can't hold a candle to the top teams at Li express, tri-state, Crabs, FCA, FLG, Patriots, Dukes, etc... The southern teams usually go up and compete in the A division and get some wins, but the difference between A and AA is massive. Now southern teams usually do have superior athletes, but they usually don't have the ball handling skills and lacrosse IQ.

I could not agree more Hound. Not to take away anything from the travel programs in GA but unless it is a true all-star team (best players in the state) That is the only way they can compete. The Cooperheads and programs like that along with the parents that are so excited that they won a tournament against a b level crab squad are living in a different world. Georgia will catch up in time along with the rest of the country but the 5-6 middie on any HS team in Baltimore, Upstate NY or LI are better then the best midfielder in our state. Not because they are a better athletes but because they play against better competition every day in practice. Why do you think a kid like Neal Hicks was able to dominate moving here from Mass for four years. Because he had already played with great competition. I applaud all of these travel teams but don't get to excited about winning something that does not count.

There are a few tournaments/camps that actually help kids get seen like Champ Camp, Hotbeds and NE 150. Most of the other ones are meat markets that are there to line the directors pockets.

While the sport continues to grow at a staggering pace the opportunities for aide and athletic money have not kept up with the growth. So study hard and give yourself the opportunity to play with hard work in the class room because the road to a lax future is a tough one for kids from our state.

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Originally Posted by UVAlacrosseD

Alright guys, the season has officially started. With teams getting their first practices in and schedules posted, are there any big-time games to go and watch this season? With the new regions in 6A, what new 6A games look to be exciting match-ups? Any 6A vs 5A stints to catch? Lots of teams looking different this year.

In my opinion....
Lambert has tough games to start the season vs. Roswell,Northview, PTR, Milton, and a late season game against Alpharetta.

Milton vs. Lassiter and vs. Etowah will be good. Hopefully Milton vs. 5A contender Pope will be a better game than last year.

Lassiter has games with Pope, Milton, and Roswell that should be good.

5A and lower

Pope vs. Northview will be a good game and give us a good idea about how Northview can compete in 5A. Pope has other tough games vs. PTR, Alpharetta, Milton, and Lassiter.

Decatur's schedule looks a bit on the weaker side with tough games vs. Northview, Westminster, and Lassiter.

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Re: Georgia Lacrosse 2013

Originally Posted by houndslaxer12

GA lacrosse really cant compare to the north. There has yet to be a southern team to win the AA division in any major tournament. Our top programs can't hold a candle to the top teams at Li express, tri-state, Crabs, FCA, FLG, Patriots, Dukes, etc... The southern teams usually go up and compete in the A division and get some wins, but the difference between A and AA is massive. Now southern teams usually do have superior athletes, but they usually don't have the ball handling skills and lacrosse IQ.

I don't think anyone is saying Georgia LAX is AS good as the North. What I see are people saying it's not as BAD as people in the North think. I too have seen Georgia teams go up and win tourneys and beat teams like the Crabs, FCA etc...Georgia LAX is up and coming and I feel it's time for some respect. Especially sense Florida gets TONS of press on how good they are yet, I'm pretty sure a club team from Atlanta has gone down there for two years and is undefeated. Lots of skill being developed in Georgia and in the near future you will see some of this talent "Rise up" and play in big D-I programs...

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I too have seen Georgia teams go up and win tourneys and beat teams like the Crabs, FCA etc...

I dont believe a GA team has a ever beaten a top Crabs team, or FCA for that matter. The closest i can recall is when 2012 Thunder lost to 2014 Crabs, which should illustrate the talent differential when you have rising sophomores beating some of GA's top players.

Georgia LAX is up and coming and I feel it's time for some respect. Especially sense Florida gets TONS of press on how good they are yet, I'm pretty sure a club team from Atlanta has gone down there for two years and is undefeated

Florida has St. Andrews and St. Thomas Aquinas, perennially top programs in the south and even ranked nationally. What club? what tournament?

Lots of skill being developed in Georgia and in the near future you will see some of this talent "Rise up" and play in big D-I programs..

That's a long way off. GA players are beginning to trickle into low level teams like Furman and Mercer, but it will be a while before there's any solid representation at a top 10 team

Everyone that still posts around here is either CRGOD or a total moron

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Originally Posted by rstimpson

... "Rise up" ...

We're still hurting about the Falcons. Ixnay on the Rise Up talk.

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Re: Georgia Lacrosse 2013

[QUOTE=houndslaxer12;2990751]"I dont believe a GA team has a ever beaten a top Crabs team, or FCA for that matter. The closest i can recall is when 2012 Thunder lost to 2014 Crabs, which should illustrate the talent differential when you have rising sophomores beating some of GA's top players."

Actually Thunder 2015 beat Crabs 2015 at the Crabs own tournament in Baltimore this summer

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Re: Georgia Lacrosse 2013

Originally Posted by raiderslax10

Yes it happened.. The games on youtube

Never said it didn't. Can anyone confirm it was in fact the 2015 AA team? Also, sophomores are not the best representation of a state/regions's talent. And the limited info i've found says the Crabs went on to the championship game.

And after watching the video, props to Thunder. That team looked well put together and played much better than a normal rising sophomore team.

Everyone that still posts around here is either CRGOD or a total moron

Re: Georgia Lacrosse 2013

Originally Posted by seminoleslax

Johns Creek beat Westminster in a scrimmage game yesterday.

I also heard that Johns Creek put up massive points in popcorn only minutes beforehand.

Unstoppable.

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On a serious note. The first week of games (according to Laxpower) has some decent match ups.

Mill Creek @ Walton - People keep talking Mill Creek and the Blackhawks and Walton has a school lacrosse-guy so let's see it. I think Walton is too talented here.

Blessed Trinity @ Lambert - Lambert takes this game with ease but BT is becoming a solid program all around.

Johns Creek @ Pope - Upset possible. Pope lost a LOT from last year and I think even with the drive Johns Creek pulls off the upset.

Centennial @ Harrison - Centennial takes this one. Too much offense offsets a lack of any noticeable defense on Centennial.

Lassiter @ Westminster - Lassiter takes it with more size, speed and physicality. Season is early still and Westminster is young. Expect both teams in the Final Four for their respective divisions though.

North Gwinnett @ Mill Creek - This is a HUGE game for the Gwinnett region with playoff implications. Mill Creek will be coming off of a talented Walton team and playing NG in their first game. Toss up here.

Lambert @ Northview - 2 good squads but I think Lambert is too good. Northview is quality and my pick to win the smaller school division.

Alpharetta @ Riverwood - Too much depth on Alpharetta for an up and coming Riverwood squad.

Walton @ Johns Creek - Another decent inter divisional match up. I think Walton takes it but in a squeaker.

Pope @ Peachtree Ridge - I think Pope wins but in a game closer than people would think.

Harrison @ Westminster - Westminster wins.

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Seriously though, I think Hooch/Lovett and Lambert/Roswell will be interesting too.

Originally Posted by Beta26

The first week of games

I figure Wheeler just wanted to get that game out of the way. Milton will be classy I imagine and use it as their "scrimmage".

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This made me laugh from the Thunder site

As Georgia's only non-profit FALSE lacrosse club we have a unbiased and clear agenda:
Select the finest players in the state
Provide top notch coaching in the summer
Take them to the northern hotbeds to compete
Develop them into better players who can make a significant contribution to their high school programs

There are several non-profit organizations like the Rage, Outlaws, AYL, Gwinnett etc. so don't put something on your web site that is not true.

As well these programs also have top notch coaching, compete in so called hotbed tourneys and develop players that make Varsity teams.

A little humility goes a long way. BTW - at some point the HS coaches from these programs will get in trouble by the GHSA for providing undo influence on young upcoming players.

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A little humility goes a long way. BTW - at some point the HS coaches from these programs will get in trouble by the GHSA for providing undo influence on young upcoming players.

Are private schools exempt from that rule? Lovett and Westy are already exempt from being in the same region. Weird...

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Originally Posted by farside

This made me laugh from the Thunder site

As Georgia's only non-profit FALSE lacrosse club we have a unbiased and clear agenda:
Select the finest players in the state
Provide top notch coaching in the summer
Take them to the northern hotbeds to compete
Develop them into better players who can make a significant contribution to their high school programs

There are several non-profit organizations like the Rage, Outlaws, AYL, Gwinnett etc. so don't put something on your web site that is not true.

As well these programs also have top notch coaching, compete in so called hotbed tourneys and develop players that make Varsity teams.

Just saying

Don't take this as defending Thunder...

GA's only non-profit- I don't know how other summer programs file their taxes, so I can't weigh in on if they are the only non-profit in GA. Thunder is non-profit only by definition

Thunder did not say they are the only program that
Provide top notch coaching in the summer
Take them to the northern hotbeds to compete
Develop them into better players who can make a significant contribution to their high school programs

So, i'm not sure where you were going with that.

I know many coaches on Thunder and some of them are top notch coaches.

I have heard some complaints about the younger (middle school) teams being mostly Westminster kids though.

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Decatur over Pace in a scrimmage on Saturday: 17-7. Most of the goals allowed by Decatur were with the back-up defense later in the game. Decatur goals were spread around. They looked great on offense and defense. Understand this is a young and rebuilding team for Pace, however, so not a lot to learn from this scrimmage perhaps.

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Johns Creek over Pope 13-6. Decent game the first half, then Pope put in the back up goalie for the second half. Pope did not have much ball movement on offense, a couple man up goals and the rest were off of dodges through 2-3 defenders. JC had about 5-7 man up goals. JC played a pretty aggressive defense and it paid off. Pope had trouble moving the ball on the perimeter and JC got a lot of turnovers off of it. Pope has a lot of work to do and JC looks like a solid team.