Thats what I don't understand. People say he betrayed Cleveland because he moved to Miami. He gave Cleveland 7 years and the best supporting cast they gave him was Mo Williams.

If LeBron leaving Cleveland is considered a disloyal move then any working person who decided to switch company or quit their job to try something else should also be considered a traitor.

Well a majority were simply put off by "the Decision" being aired, simple as that. The people that disliked his actual leaving where the immediate Cleveland base mostly.

To be fair your leaving a company argument is a little flawed, nowadays loyalty is rare but it exists in certain companies. If your boss or recruiting staff has helped you along the way, and you leave for a higher paying job before actually 'paying off your dues' then yes I'd say you betrayed the company that lifted you up, whether it be through education or financially.

Cons
Media hype
Pressure to win more than ever
Athletic game on back end of athletic prime
Big strong guys can break down earlier

How could you forget flopping?

That's the biggest gripe I have with him by far. It is simply embarrassing for anyone to flop, but especially the face of the league and a man of his size & strength even having done it before with smaller players. It's a disgrace to the game of basketball.

It's a game. Habitual flopping is the worst.
Chris Paul and Harden are horrible. Blake G is bad and so is Bron.
I like when players like Noah flop though. Or Sasha. Or Rodman. Even Artesf. I like craftiness from certain types of defenders.

Anybody that is a stan of ANY player is annoying. Im a Lakers and Kobe fan and a fan first of the game of basketball so I enjoy Lebron but not really a fan sort of speak. I mean I don't care much about any of them outside of the hardwood so I may not even really be a fan of anyone TBH.

Lebron stans are the worst, just go look at insidehoops, it's disgusting.

"Blake and Parker are good at canceling each other out till our bench point guard comes in" - Majesty aka Bird Ish (12/4/13)

Come on anybody but not lebron, lakers would be a bandwagon nation or flopnation if that gorilla came here, beating lebrick was a great accomplish. If he came here, there's no more challenging game in this game.

Come on anybody but not lebron, lakers would be a bandwagon nation or flopnation if that gorilla came here, beating lebrick was a great accomplish. If he came here, there's no more challenging game in this game.

Anybody that is a stan of ANY player is annoying. Im a Lakers and Kobe fan and a fan first of the game of basketball so I enjoy Lebron but not really a fan sort of speak. I mean I don't care much about any of them outside of the hardwood so I may not even really be a fan of anyone TBH.

I'm a fan of basketball as well, I watch a lot of it when it's on and play pretty much every other day, so I can recognize greatness when I see it. I know lebron is great, but I do not appreciate how many calls he gets and how much he flops when he is so athletically gifted.

I also appreciate Kobe very much because I first really got into bball when he was just getting into the league. So I kinda feel like I've grown up watching him evolve into the ball player he is today. I feel like sports media wants to phase out Kobe in favor of lebron because they followed him since he was in high school and they have storylines to fufill and he is the latest and greatest.

So in closing, I know lebron is great, but I would like Kobe to get some shine, as his star dims in these last years and fades out as one of the greatest ever to lace them up.

Kobe gets and has had plenty of shine. I don't get this whole thing about Kobe not being appreciated. When Kobe was dropping 81 pts and putting up crazy numbers and even up to the point they won the 2nd Finals b2b the media was all on his jock. Its when they lost horribly in Dallas and the Big 3 emerged is when the shift really happened.

"Blake and Parker are good at canceling each other out till our bench point guard comes in" - Majesty aka Bird Ish (12/4/13)

Half of his career the media pointed him as a shadow of shaq, 2004 rape drama, then he went haywire in 2006 and people started respecting him, then he couldn't win without shaq and he was getting too old, now he's too old.

The media has went at Kobe with everything.

Lebron had hype in the media all of his years in Cleveland and post Dallas championship. There was one year where he had all the hate and that was pretty short.

Ok and? What is the media supposed to do? I feel Kobe was robbed of an MVP in 06 but still he's gotten his recognition. Does it bother you that much that the media dick rides Lebron? If so then maybe you take this sports thing to serious. Kobe's place in history is set and its pretty high. He ranges from #2 to 10 on the all time list depending on who you talk to. What more does he need?

It's all about PERCEPTION. This is how it works. If you are a Kobe fan you feel the hate from people if you hate him you think everyone dickrides him and he's overrated. Don't even think about being objective about him. Both sides hate you then. Kobe is probably the most loved and hated on player. Lebron is up there as well. Some people just choose to love bball and have their favs like me.

lol not really that was like 2-3 years/17?

Half of his career the media pointed him as a shadow of shaq, 2004 rape drama, then he went haywire in 2006 and people started respecting him, then he couldn't win without shaq and he was getting too old, now he's too old.

The media has went at Kobe with everything.

Lebron had hype in the media all of his years in Cleveland and post Dallas championship. There was one year where he had all the hate and that was pretty short.

Edited by Jody Smokes, September 29, 2013 - 09:25 PM.

"Blake and Parker are good at canceling each other out till our bench point guard comes in" - Majesty aka Bird Ish (12/4/13)