“The event at the private college owned by Dong Zong also aims to unite the Chinese community in demanding that the government transfers out hundreds of teachers who do not have Chinese language qualification out of Chinese primary schools.”

When it comes to PERKASA, they call it racist. When it comes to Dong Zong, they call it a champion of human right.
The root of the problem is simple. Chinese themselves refuse to sacrifice to become teachers because of their low pay and now everybody else is to blame except these Dong Zong supporters with its Chinese First mentality.

The truth is many Chinese applicants have been rejected by the Ministry of Education to become teachers. Ministry of Education has made the situation worse by sending many Chinese teachers who can teach Chinese language to national schools instead of Chinese primary schools. The right to learn one’s mother language has to be respected. Unlike Perkasa, the people who learn their mother languages do not hate or dislike other races. That is the difference between Dong Zong and Perkasa.

Malah saya dilemparkan komen berikut — “All these hags [Joceline Tan, Helen Ang, et al] must have been poked by CSL one time or another in order for them to come out with such silly trivial non-issues”, sini.

Yes Helen, I’d like to talk to this Pala fellow a bit. If he said he’s DAP, he surely is being cynical when he says the above. But his words are tolerable up to this point. Let’s see his other comments.

the next time YB Wee meets with Najib, it will be with a sad face pleading with the PM to give more leeway to these DJZ terrorists… at the end of the meeting, the Chinese will get what they want in view of the coming PRU… these events will happen every PRU for the next decades, and the situation will not get better… gap between the different races will continue to widen… and eventually bloodshed between races will repeat itself once again… that it is history and humans are so forgetful… to Najib, please don’t give in to these hypocrites and save the nation from these bloodsucking Chinese… mind you, not all Chinese are bastards like DJZ… most Chinese I know are positive minded and all towards building a peaceful and prosperous nation…

Bagus lah kamu tak buat macam itu, Encik buah pala. Selalunya so’al stimulus and response, brada. Sapa mula dulu tak payah cerita. But I’d like to be watching you if I have the time. Not quite Big Brader on the Wall like PAP and Singapore. Though I suspect Lim Guan Eng and tutup mulut, endless gag orders are the same.

Lebih nyata lagi, DAP mencetuskan pergaduhan kaum 13 Mei 1969. Di nyatakan dengan butiran lanjut di buku “The May 13 Tragedy: A Report, by National Operations Council.” Quoting the words of Policemen and Police Officers who were on duty during the outbreak of the race riots. Of course the communists (before they were shooed to the Betong salient, south Thailand) and the subversives said they did not trust the Police. But then they did not trust even their own fathers and mothers. Like during the so-called Cultural Revolution in China.

And no need to tell me about Kua ka Siong (whatever his name) who wrote trying to put the blame on Tun A Razak. Such a ridiculous and preposterous idea.

No, they are not stupid. But they are ultra kiasu. They don’t respect the Constitution. Article 152 states that BM is the national language of this country. Mother tongue can be used only “FOR OTHER THAN OFFICIAL PURPOSE”. And schools are the official purpose of any country. Therefore Chinese schools should use BM as the medium of instruction.

But if they persist in not accepting the above as facts, they may be stupid.

One of my Chinese colleague, whose wife is a teacher, claimed, on contrary, there is actually a lot of Chinese who wanted to become teacher but they were systemically blocked.

I did not ask more but here is an example given by a commenter Cala, who commented in MalaysiaKini; I know you’re probably disgusted with Malaysiakini commenters nowadays, but I’ll quote part of it anyway:

….my understanding is that close to 2000 temporary teachers in the Chinese schools are having some problems with respect to their teaching tenure. They face uncertainty of enrolment in formal training before qualifying as competent teachers. But the Education Ministry appears oblivious of their predicament….

ShuZheng also pointed out that the creation of PPSMI is another reason why Chinese schools were short of teachers (who could speak Mandarin), I quote here:

Nine years of PPSMI and now abolished had decimated a population of teachers who could teach Maths or Science in hanyu. They had to move on – give up teaching and move to Singapore or Taiwan – or they would be starved dead today. There are only the English left.

(ShuZheng has more points over there that I don’t want to quote)

DJZ sleeping in the same bed with DAP is probably out of desperation because their relationship with MCA/Gerakan did not work out well. In fact DJZ has always been lobbying political parties from both sides of the fence all these years (even with PAS) in order to further their interest, see here. You claimed DJZ being used or manipulated (diperalatkan) but the current rally just doesn’t happen overnight. They have already been talking about rallying since last year after temporary teachers issue being in the spotlight.The pent up frustration has been built up all these years (including the demand for more Chinese schools), and it is just waiting to be unleashed. Just like what a commenter YS Tong wrote back in 2002, DJZ is just destined to be a dissident.

PS: I really don’t know what you’re trying to suggest with so many posts on DJZ (other than taking the usual jab on DAP). So, should DJZ stop rallying altogether, butter up/ patch up with Wee Ka Siong and everything will be fine and dandy?

(1) You wrote: “there is actually a lot of Chinese who wanted to become teacher but they were systemically blocked”. Okay, fair point. Since WKS is the deputy Ed minister, the opposition should pressure him to come clean on the data. Or for DJZ to provide hard stats.

(2)(a) “close to 2000 temporary teachers in the Chinese schools are having some problems with respect to their teaching tenure” … Can you pls provide links & more info on the matter aside from the Komunitikini report which doesn’t explain much. Thereafter we can discuss this point further.

(b) One of the 4 resolutions passed at the 325 rally yesterday was for ALL the non-Mandarin “qualified” teachers to be IMMEDIATELY transferred out. If that’s DJZ’s demand, and it’s met, wouldn’t that just exacerbate the problem of shortage they’re complaining about in the first place? Send away the temps & where to pluck SPM-standard Mandarin speaker-trained teachers from? Thin air?

(3) Sz is not accurate on PPSMI. In the first place, DJZ did not fight hard enough against its implementation in the Mahathir years. Instead the Chinese schools compromised by duplicating, i.e. teaching double periods (meaning the kids spent longer hours in school) the subjects in both Eng. & Chinese.

Following the above, I don’t see how Sz’s claim that PPSMI “decimated a population of teachers who could teach Maths or Science in hanyu” can hold water. As to his follow-on claim that “They had to move on – give up teaching and move to Singapore or Taiwan” to the extent of “decimation” — where’s the official data to back that? We don’t even have open data on outbound immigration which is a discernible fact.

(4) “DJZ sleeping in the same bed with DAP”, ref. (2)(b). If the resolution they passed is impractical & self-defeating, then it does not indicate that DJZ is genuinely seeking solutions to the problems. The establishment – Najib, Muhyiddin, CSL, WKS – scrambled to contain the situation by quickly laying out several offers on the table.

But it was clear that DJZ wanted to flex the Chinese muscle by going ahead with 325, i.e. their pronouncement that the rally was purposed to “unite” the Chinese behind their cause as well as for the show of strength to give them leverage when they conduct their next meeting with the authorities on March 30.

(5) “[Helen] claimed DJZ being used or manipulated (diperalatkan) but the current rally just doesn’t happen overnight.” I’m looking at the cost-benefit analysis. DAP benefits by burnishing its credentials as ‘defender of Chinese interests’.

I foresee that Chinese education is at the losing end of the tie-up b’cos now that DJZ is linked with DAP, it takes the issue from the domain of academia into the political arena with all the racial baggage (DAP vs Umno; DJZ being compared with Perkasa).

Like Daim said about pressure and counter-pressure: DJZ is applying pressure. Don’t you see already that the larger body politic (i.e. Malays and parents whose kids are in SK) are reacting? Isn’t it Chinese education ultimately that suffers when brushed with accusations of chauvinism, racism & the DAP streetfighting credo? Proven by the rowdiness and scuffles yesterday.

Do you think the 325 demo gained SRJK(C)s any general goodwill or lost some?

(6) “The pent up frustration has been built up all these years (including the demand for more Chinese schools), and it is just waiting to be unleashed.” I understand the [stymied] development & the frustrations. But all the more reason for patience & perseverance in dealing with it when there’s a tightrope to be walked.

Why I say DAP used DJZ (although it’s a ‘you scratch my back I scratch yours’ exchange between them) is b’cos DAP wanted to the floodgates to be opened for their [Pakatan’s] own political mileage.

And how were the frustrations released? By assault & throwing water bottles. I saw one of the photographs of how a Malay policeman prevented the assailant’s fist from connecting with WKS’s face.

And what was the reaction outside the venue? The opposition Chinese were gloating that WKS would have been lynched if not for the heavy security detail. Also another gloat that Saifuddin Nasution was welcomed at the rally with cheers.

Aren’t all these machinations to bury MCA good & proper?

(7) “PS: I really don’t know what you’re trying to suggest with so many posts on DJZ (other than taking the usual jab on DAP).”

Remember the February Asli forum that incl. the CSL-LGE debate? The forum was themed “Chinese at the crossroads”. To me, 325 is a significant date b’cos it marks clearly that the Chinese have decidedly chosen which path they want to take.

Try to see beyond GE12 (which is to take place in the next few months or so) & beyond the psychotic preoccupation of the DAPsters on squeezing out every last vote for themselves. Look into the horizon & make a diagnosis of where DAP is leading us (Chinese).

SRJK (C) does not exist & operate in a vacuum. DJZ may have made 4 demands but the very act of the 325 gathering has already created a furore. Personally I’m in full support of Chinese schools. My Malay readership here is fully aware of that (I’m the minority view in my own blog).

But DAP’s involvement is most detrimental to the continued survival of Chinese schools b’cos of the hypocrisy of their M’sian First sloganeering. Isn’t it a valid question to ask where is the “M’sian agenda” (LGE’s swaggering) vis-a-vis Article 152 & why non-Mandarin speaking teachers are seen as a cancer in the vernacular system that has to be excised?

Helen, thanks for your rebuttal and analysis. At this moment I don’t have any other points to add, unless if I hear more grouses straight from the horse’s mouth (those from Chinese education circles, i.e. Chinese teachers teaching in Chinese schools), then I’ll put that into comment here.

Regarding the temporary school teachers shortage, I’m unable to find any other data or numbers or past news from the net (other than the one from KomunitiKini). I guess this kind of issues are more likely debated or commented in Chinese medium domain (Chinese forums, Chinese news sites) than in English and being unfamiliar with that world, I guess I won’t be able to substantiate more information.

I notice that Chinese community in general tolerates( in fact encourages DJZ) as a bargaining chip against UMNO. But what they fail to realise is that they( the chinese) will end up as losers.

The impression that Chinese have is that UMNO ( and especially Najib) really hards up for their support. It is true to a certain point. But what they really forgot is that all Chinese based parties, be it MCA, Gerakan or DAP also want Malay support.

By DAP instigating DJZ( or vice versa), It( DAP) actually bringing Malay closer to UMNO. An in case of BN, UMNO can stand on its own( meaning it has the largest pie in Malay votes). in comparison, MCA and gerakan ( if not for UMNO’s support) are to be seen in museum only.

My point is that Chinese still refuse to see that malay community is seeing them as “kiasu” or “tak boleh dipercayai”. I mean no disrespect to Chinese. But must they wage war against BN or UMNO in order to get their rights. and what rights of the Chinese that have been denied?

In fact, Malay feels that UMNO is too accomodating to the Chinese requests . I dare to say that UMNO’s treatment to non Malays is ia model of benevolence unheard or unsurpassed in this planet.

Yes. Sir. i stand by what i said. Tell me where in this world a govt sponsors the vernacular schools without any attempt to close it down.

You says it nicely. Many chinese seems to forget that the Govt can close down the schools if it really wants it. And when it has decided to do it, no Chinese or any Chinese party can do anything.

Sound arrogant? But that is the reality. Now Malay community is asking what the hell Najib is pampering the Chinese when majority of them rejects BN.

Najib should take note. PERKASA is well received among Malays. Malays take PERKASA not as a tool to counterbalance DAP BUT RATHER as a warning to UMNO not to underestimate the feeling of Malays.

The way forward is One school for all. It has been said for decades. Separate school EXACTLY does one thing:SEPARATE US.

One school for all. All students mingle in one environment. Provision made to have Mandarin and tamil classes for Chinese and indian students.

But funny is it not. DAP that cries for “malaysian Malaysia” insist on having separate school.

Yet some Chinese are upset when they are reffered as “pendatang”. Yes. upset to be called “pendatang” AT THE VERY TIME some Chinese politicians wage war against the Malays.
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Shamshul,

Hmm, let’s consider: Your analysis is that the DJZ rally will alienate Malays and thus drive away Malay support from Chinese parties (i.e. all Chinese without differentiation now viewed as hostile). If the Malays turn away from the Chinese in toto, i.e. a blanket reaction, and it is MCA that needs Malay votes – survival hinges on it – more than DAP does, could this Malay against Chinese sentiment (i) dent DAP but (ii) deliver the killer blow to MCA? What do you think? — Helen

We must always understand the core of the struggle rather than turning it into a political forum that the politicians prefer.Many should revisit the Fenn- Wu report on vernacular education which is protected by the constitution.I will agree with Helen that DAP these days had caught on with the chameleon attitude of Anwar, lalang according to where the wind blows.Notwithstanding the political agenda of PR like UMNO, where is our concern as an individiual on this chinese education issue if it is a major concern for a segment of the society. Today the dissent by DJZ although genuine in nature is seen as a political tool. Whose fault is it? Of course DJZ itself, if not why should the Wee bloke be castigated.Aren’t they here to to talk of the society’s problem?So how does it matter whether it is BN or PR. What perpetuates these political parties and their agenda is our own individual fault as we continue to defend our position without digesting the problem & understanding the ethnic relationship that we had build over the years but rather taking a confrontational attitude.Wakeuplah Malaysians, we are not homogeneous but rich with such a conflux of ethnicity that the world envies.Whether a Malay,Chinese,Indian or lain-lain has an issue it should a community issue as Malaysian rather than allowing these stupid politicians glued to their seats and busy twitting for their own glory and create unrest between us,the regular folks.Vernacular education does not make anyone, any lesser Malaysian and we should all support it wholeheartedly without the politican equation.

I sometimes wonder…really, really wonder why there are still non-malays who do not understand the main purpose of BAHASA MALAYSIA. If I asked my cats..they will know better cos I use BAHASA MALAYSIA to give commands to my cats. I use BAHASA MALAYSIA to call the coconut plucking monkeys too @ my kampung.
The malays of yesteryears wanted to communicate better with the arrivals of the chinese, indians, punjabis and hence they decided to install and SHARED Bahasa Malaysia as a common language for everyone. Those days, mana ada cikgu mengajar bahasa inggeris???
In China, Japan and Germany…economic powerhouses…. they use their own languages for everything and they are economic powerhouses.
No one is questioning what is in your heart if youre a loyal Malaysian or not…no one can see whats in your heart but if you take great pains to take BAHASA MALAYSIA seriously , learn and practise it.. it makes everything clearer and simpler.
I salute the chinese in Malacca, Kelantan, Terengganu and Kedah….
theyre still chinese but its always nicer speaking BAHASA MALAYSIA with them.
If you feel that you become a melayu by speaking BAHASA MALAYSIA – there’s only one ward to describe you – BODOH!#
And Im also pretty sure that in every house owned by supporters of DAP..there is a dart board with the words MELAYU and BAHASA MALAYSIA printed on it for DAP members to throw darts.
There is only one true blue racist party…run b a family dynasty that mirrors the brutal North Korean regime….
Maybe LGE should have a hairstyle like he North Korean leader?
The chinese in Malaysia are the luckiest chinese in the world.. they can retain their names and cultures and even their schools are partly funded by the ruling government.
TV chinese channels pun ada….
Mau apa lagi?
Yang paling penting dan berharga ialah setia kawan…kawan2 like your fellow malaysian malays, indians, punjabis and manyn other ethnic groups.
Please stop being the only noisy ethnic group…

Quote from Shamsul “In fact, Malay feels that UMNO is too accommodating to the Chinese requests . I dare to say that UMNO’s treatment to non Malays is ia model of benevolence unheard or unsurpassed in this planet”. Umno did this now for sake of “Perpaduan” even though it meant sacrificing Malay’s neck!…How.I wish Tun Mahathir is still be our beloved PM….he is the truly statesman of the world. He definitely will be able to settle this stupid issue and in the same time teach some manners to DJZ!

DJZ does not want teachers who are not proficient in Mandarin( meaning non Chinese teachers).

And actually, Perlembagaan does not guarantee the existence of Chinese and tamil school. Perlembagaan GUARANTEES the right to learn, to practise one’s mother tounge.

The biggest mistake Tunku made was allowing separate school system. It separates us. Literally speaking. attending Rumah Terbuka of the PM or tossing yee sang do not promote integration in true sense. The only way for integration is to mingle around. And nothing can replace the time tested method.

DJZ choose a confrontational manner. and it adds a political falavour by courting DAP, a party which hallmark is waging war against the Malays.

As for Malays, they repeatedly reminding Najib that whatever his gift to Chinese community, he must understand the fate that befell Sarawak CM. After doing so much for Chinese, he is still rejected.

Najib must understand that there is limit in accomodating the Chinese . Or he wishes to aleanate the Malays, the very community that support him.

As for MCA, it becomes harder to win in Malay majority areas s nowadays Malays see no reason in choosing MCA in Malay majority area.

As for the Chinese, it is their choice who they will elect as their representatives. They can choose a voice in the Govt or they can be completely outside govt. The choice is in their hand.

Everything will be fine if they win the coming election, DAP wish to be the dominant partner meaning they will reset policies. At the end of the day chinese speaking community will prevail in every aspect, social, economics, financial, etc. I agree with Alantyt, that chinese representation will completely alienated if they choose otherwise. The choice is theirs. If absolute power remains with the Malays then it is easier for the government to rescind SJKT. It is power sharing that saves SJKT, and if the Chinese feel that they can grab power go ahead. So again the choice is your our Chinese friends.

If you “grab power” by anything less than constitutional means, the military might beat you to it. In Fiji, the immigrants form the majority of the population, won the General Elections, but could not have power – the military grabbed it and ruled by military decrees, until now.

IF they win PRU13, DAP becomes “the dominant partner meaning they will reset policies. At the end of the day chinese speaking community will prevail in every aspect, social, economics, financial, etc”, the Malays will resent it, protest in more ways than one. I fear the collision that samshul spoke about earlier will take place.

All responsible citizens should do their part by ensuring that doesn’t happen. Each citizen can be responsible – through the vote.

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