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I won't even use

He is certainly allowed his views and free to speak them. Was a little shocked at the language...guess he is still bit of a kid. Over such a stooopid topic...men entering ladies only events too.

#3

24th August 2010, 8:30 PM

DREW0 [218]

Online Poker at: HERO/BODOG

Game: holdem

Daniel says things that others think but have to much common sense to say. I quess if you are a millionaire poker player you can afford to be tactless, but you sometimes lose some of the respect you have earned through the years.

#4

24th August 2010, 8:42 PM

poker d player [534]

Poker at: ????

Game: HORSE

That seems a bit over the top, even for Danial. There seems to be a lot of negative opinions of Annie. I haven't watched her much in the past couple years so I can't really comment on that. I did see a few shots of here at the 2010 WSOP and she looked to have a very negative stern look on her face, Not sure what that was about and have only watched a couple shows of this years event so far. Possibly some can share why so many view her so negatively.

#5

24th August 2010, 8:42 PM

lektrikguy [1,559]

Online Poker at: Carbon/Bodog

Game: HE/PLO/2-7TD

Wow...if he wants to criticize her then fine, but keep a little tact. Pulling out the "C You Next Tuesday" word is just wrong.

#6

24th August 2010, 9:07 PM

Stick66 [6,380]

Poker at: Merge, Bodog

Game: Yes, I am

Could he have been a bit tipsy when he was interviewed? He has been known to hit the sauce between sessions.

#7

24th August 2010, 9:12 PM

madtom1337 [283]

Online Poker at: Full Tilt

Game: Holdem

re: Poker & Wow! Negreanu REALLY doesn't like Annie Duke!

Jeez, what the hell is WRONG with people today? Everyone seems to think that they have a right to not be offended, and that everyone should always have tact and be "mature" - what the hell happened to just letting what you feel rip in a natural and real way? Negreanu rarely steps "out of line" like this, so I think we should all respect the fact that when he does come out with stuff like this then there's some passionate reasoning behind it. Good on you, Negreanu, I say.

#8

24th August 2010, 10:03 PM

Mr Whatever [232]

Poker at: Fulltilt

u just realized daniel and her dont like 1 another?

no shocker here, its been around for awhile.

not a lot of players like her.

u ever see that scene on wsop between brett jungblut and her calling over the tourn director? not as user friendly as howard.

#9

24th August 2010, 10:50 PM

Suited Frenzy [3,589]

Next to Matusow & Tony G, Negreanu has the biggest mouth in poker IMO. He has said a lot of bad things about a lot of other players (on the poker tables & off).

It's not surprising when he has something negative to say.

#10

24th August 2010, 10:54 PM

Sean Pilgrim [2,666]

Game: Hold Em

Originally Posted by madtom1337

Jeez, what the hell is WRONG with people today? Everyone seems to think that they have a right to not be offended, and that everyone should always have tact and be "mature" - what the hell happened to just letting what you feel rip in a natural and real way? Negreanu rarely steps "out of line" like this, so I think we should all respect the fact that when he does come out with stuff like this then there's some passionate reasoning behind it. Good on you, Negreanu, I say.

Well, I'd usually agree with you and say "Sure, let anyone say whatever they want to say." But, he's a sponsored player, he represents Pokerstars the largest online poker site. From one poker professional to another, being disrespectful is awfully tacky.

#11

24th August 2010, 11:05 PM

LarkMarlow [14,559]

Online Poker at: Live

Game: NL Holdem

Originally Posted by lektrikguy

Wow...if he wants to criticize her then fine, but keep a little tact. Pulling out the "C You Next Tuesday" word is just wrong.

I agree 100%.

Daniel's hatred of Annie is so extreme--wonder what's at the core of that.

#12

24th August 2010, 11:07 PM

ythelongface [2,636]

Poker at: Hollywood IN

Game: holdem

Pretty classless. There are plenty of ways to get your point across without resorting to that kind of language. Not smart there Danny.

#13

24th August 2010, 11:26 PM

jmill [163]

Online Poker at: Bovada

Game: holdem

Originally Posted by LarkMarlow

I agree 100%.

Daniel's hatred of Annie is so extreme--wonder what's at the core of that.

maybe she broke his heart??? lol doubt it

#14

24th August 2010, 11:52 PM

Chiefer [4,879]

Game: hold 'em

re: Poker & Wow! Negreanu REALLY doesn't like Annie Duke!

They are people, they get pissed. If I don't like you, I will tell you and I will use any words that I want. Simple as that. If DN wants to use harsh words so be it. He's an adult and he can say what he wants.

Granted, with him being in the spotlight like he is, he may, for his own professional benefit, try to use words that are a little less offensive. I don't fault him for saying what is on his mind. I give him props for speaking his mind the way he does. Most people don't have the balls to.

I don't know why the two don't like each other and I don't care. If the roles were reversed and Annie said those things about him, then so be it. Props to her for speaking her mind the way she wants.

#15

24th August 2010, 11:54 PM

TheKAAHK [5,085]

Online Poker at: PokerStars

Game: NLHE

Originally Posted by Sean Pilgrim

Well, I'd usually agree with you and say "Sure, let anyone say whatever they want to say." But, he's a sponsored player, he represents Pokerstars the largest online poker site. From one poker professional to another, being disrespectful is awfully tacky.

Does it matter if he's a sponsered player or not? "Tacky" as it may have been, at least he's honest about his views. This "politically correct, touchy feely" bullshit has to stop sometime. Way to actually say what's on his mind, and not some garbage PC line.

It may be a bit on the tacky side, but in his defense, Daniel basically accusing the reporting of hit & run journalism. This apparently wasn't an arranged or official interview or press conference, it was apparently an impromptu conversation with the guy that he thought was off the record and he made the comment in that goofy way he has, not realizing the guy was going to publish it. At least that's this story, and I can believe it -- I've read an awful lot of Daniel's published comments, and while he does speak bluntly, I've never seen him be that crude. He admits that he uses colorful language in close company that he wouldn't in a proper interview, as I expect many of us do.

Annie is arrogant and has been critical and condescending to Daniel from when he first started playing poker. She only tried to make nice with him after he became recognized as a world-class player, but it was fake nice and he knew it. I don't blame him for not respecting her. He maybe should be more careful with what he says to who, just from a public image perspective (after all, he is marketing himself now), but I understand his animosity towards her. He particularly takes issue with her declaring herself the "greatest female poker player in the world." Despite it being laughably untrue in the opinion of most pros, both male and female, it's hypocritical given her campaign against women's events and how there should be no distinction between male and female players.

#18

25th August 2010, 12:35 AM

ckickenking [1,008]

Poker at: Bovada

Game: Stud H/L

Praise to Daniel Negreanu

Like I said on another posting, Annie is rude and mean. Watch her play, She looks down to non famous pros and to famous poker pros she kiss major ass. Damn just watch her in last year WSOP. Calling the tournament director over and making a player take off his jacket because it annoyed her. What a B***h. Praise to Danial for saying what others fear to say because it true.

#19

25th August 2010, 12:47 AM

jazzaxe [1,043]

Game: 7 Stud

As regards the gender specific tourneys, it seems that when you restrict entry to a specific group, you are saying that the group is less than competitive than an open tourney. A women only tourney or a junior tourney in any competition is less skilled than an open group at large. If that sounds chauvanistic I apologize. I do however, believe it to be true.

#20

25th August 2010, 1:37 AM

Mr Whatever [232]

Poker at: Fulltilt

agree with morris big time. summed up the situation perfectly.

on a side note shes an awesome hi/lo player but ive heard she can be "full of herself" sometimes but that can sometimes go with any1 that is good at what they do. and like i said, ive read and heard over the yrs a lot of players that find her difficult to deal with.

as for daniel, i think hes shady although hes got a nice nice public persona lololol but thats not really important.

he does all he can do to promote poker and be nice to the public. so i think we should give em a pass on that 1 comment and think about all hes done over the yrs versus 1 incident. although it wasnt the best way to
addressing his hostility towards her.

#21

25th August 2010, 1:43 AM

Marginal [10,348]

re: Poker & Wow! Negreanu REALLY doesn't like Annie Duke!

Originally Posted by Stick66

Could he have been a bit tipsy when he was interviewed? He has been known to hit the sauce between sessions.

No because if you do some searching you will see he absolutely hates Annie Duke. He has been bashing her for a long time but then again, soooo many people in the poker community hate her

#22

25th August 2010, 2:10 AM

Stick66 [6,380]

Poker at: Merge, Bodog

Game: Yes, I am

Originally Posted by marginal

No because if you do some searching you will see he absolutely hates Annie Duke. He has been bashing her for a long time but then again, soooo many people in the poker community hate her

Sure, I know he hates Annie Duke and has for a while. I was just hoping the drinking excuse would apply to the use of the "C" word. I know when I'm drunk, I use the "F" word a lot. At least that's my excuse.

#23

25th August 2010, 2:23 AM

madtom1337 [283]

Online Poker at: Full Tilt

Game: Holdem

Originally Posted by Sean Pilgrim

Well, I'd usually agree with you and say "Sure, let anyone say whatever they want to say." But, he's a sponsored player, he represents Pokerstars the largest online poker site. From one poker professional to another, being disrespectful is awfully tacky.

Man, it's poker... It's not a corporate office, or the royal family, or something... Annie Duke's an F'in B, anywho... Lol :P

#24

25th August 2010, 2:32 AM

robert_wrath [417]

Poker at: 64 Spades

Game: OFC Pineappl

I believe it would truly take quite a bit to really piss Daniel off, though he does prove a good point of argument. One is hypocritical to say greatest woman's champion when others such as Vanessa Russo and Annette15 qualify amongst the ranks.

#25

25th August 2010, 3:27 AM

Poof [14,243]

Online Poker at: bodog

Game: Holdem

Originally Posted by lektrikguy

Wow...if he wants to criticize her then fine, but keep a little tact. Pulling out the "C You Next Tuesday" word is just wrong.

^^^This

Originally Posted by Chiefer

They are people, they get pissed. If I don't like you, I will tell you and I will use any words that I want. Simple as that. If DN wants to use harsh words so be it. He's an adult and he can say what he wants.

.

I agree he can use whatever words he wants, however resorting to name calling, let alone that name is really classless.

I really used to like Daniel, however if he acts like this in an interview, I can only imagine him irl.
jmo

I respect Daniel as a poker player and as a person. I have no problem with anybody speaking their mind.

#28

25th August 2010, 5:44 AM

miraclechipmunk [8]

re: Poker & Wow! Negreanu REALLY doesn't like Annie Duke!

welcome to real life

#29

25th August 2010, 9:54 AM

OzExorcist [8,393]

Online Poker at: Full Tilt

Game: wild deuces

Originally Posted by Sean Pilgrim

Well, I'd usually agree with you and say "Sure, let anyone say whatever they want to say." But, he's a sponsored player, he represents Pokerstars the largest online poker site. From one poker professional to another, being disrespectful is awfully tacky.

This might be true and as has been observed above, if he thought it was an on the record conversation (assuming you believe his claims to the contrary) he probably would've chosen different words.

I honestly don't think it'll hurt him or Pokerstars though - given it's an opinion that a lot of people in the target market hold themselves it could actually be positive.

#30

25th August 2010, 10:32 AM

pokerman27 [753]

Game: Hold 'em

Negreanu has tweeted that his latest blog is all about his use of the 'c' word. The blog link doesn't work atm but when it does i'll post it up.

#31

25th August 2010, 3:55 PM

Sixes Full [119]

Online Poker at: acr

Game: All

I used to like DN but now he seems to me just a little annoying. I dont care for tv coverage of his game. I cant stand AD either.

That being said I cant argue with the fact they are both excellent players.

#32

25th August 2010, 6:10 PM

ThunderPT [336]

Poker at: Full Tilt

Game: NLHE

Wait a second. So most people don't really care about Negreanu's intention and most, in fact, actually agree with it, but do have a big problem with the particular word he chose to express his thought. I can't understand that. I have to bring my buddy George Carlin to the discussion (watch from minute 46):
http://www.guba.com/watch/3000028405/George-Carlin-Doin-it-Again-1990

I doesn't matter which words are used, only what Negreanu meant. If you have a problem with what he meant, then fine. If you don't, don't get all offended just because he used the c-word instead of "bitch" or something even lighter. I, personally, don't see any difference. It's the context and the intention of the person who uses the word that matters. Actually, can someone please explain to me why do the c-word and the word "bitch" have totally different levels of acceptance if they're basically synonyms? It's one of those things that don't make much sense in today's society yet nobody seems to question them.

#33

25th August 2010, 6:51 PM

Sean Pilgrim [2,666]

Game: Hold Em

Originally Posted by TheKAAHK

Does it matter if he's a sponsered player or not? "Tacky" as it may have been, at least he's honest about his views. This "politically correct, touchy feely" bullshit has to stop sometime. Way to actually say what's on his mind, and not some garbage PC line.

I agree freedom of speech is everyone's right. He spoke his mind and was probably tilted. We've all been there, so it's understandable.

Originally Posted by OzExorcist

This might be true and as has been observed above, if he thought it was an on the record conversation (assuming you believe his claims to the contrary) he probably would've chosen different words.

I honestly don't think it'll hurt him or Pokerstars though - given it's an opinion that a lot of people in the target market hold themselves it could actually be positive.

Daniel Negreanu and Pokerstars are huge names and won't be adversely affected by it (if at all). But, still when you're making comments like that to the public you damage your reputation. I for one up until the info in this thread, thought he was a very level headed guy and could handle the suck outs, bad plays, bad players, etc without comments such as above. But, you learn something new everyday.

#34

26th August 2010, 1:15 AM

THeGaME41 [8]

Poker at: FullTiltPoke

Game: HoldEm

Negreanu for Prime Minister! You can just tell Annie is a bitch by the way she acts at the poker table and on the Apprentice.

#35

26th August 2010, 2:49 AM

salim271 [1,678]

Online Poker at: Full Tilt

Game: Holdem

re: Poker & Wow! Negreanu REALLY doesn't like Annie Duke!

I read the interview a few days ago and I was like what? Its one thing to think it, but to say it in an interview it was kind of like wow what was DN thinking? Think whatever you want about people, but dont tell interviewers lol.