I don't follow college basketball that much any longer. I will watch the tournament and that's about it. I am assuming the first 3 taken were who we wanted. who do you guys think was the proper pick for us at number 4??? Thomas Robinson? Harrison Barnes? Are those guys astronomically better than the guy we took?

I hate the Cavs.Are you telling me we couldn't trade down for Waiters. Are you freaking serious??Grant should be fired instantly. Don't even let him finish this draft. Moron.They must have freaking crayons in the war room.I hate the Cavs. Maybe they figured since they didn't get one of the best three players in the draft, they would start tanking right now for more ping pong balls next year.Freaking morons.

"The nose of the bulldog has been slanted backwards so that he can breathe without letting go." -- Winston Churchill

I wish I followed college ball because I honestly never heard of Waiters. didn't they play Ohio State in the tourney?? I missed that game, did he do anything that game? I saw the Kansas game and Robinson did stuff that game.

Is thompson really that bad? He averaged 8 and 7 not having grown into his body yet, he really has no room to improve at all?? Really?? Isn't he only 20? I read another thread you said he was a 43 percent free throw shooter. In reality the guy shot 63 percent in April and improved all season at the line and ended at 55 percent. By the end of the year he was massively improved there. So it was blatantly obvious the guy worked to improve something he was hideous at and did improve. Is that a terrible trait??

To summarize, I'm not really sure I get the pure and absolute hatred of Thompson.

i'm sorry, I'm just playing devils advocate. Now that LeBron is gone I see two Cavs games a year against Utah. I honestly have no clue about Thompson, but his stats for a very, very young kid playing the 4 didn't seem off the charts bad though.

So the general consensus is unless Grant has the number 1 overall, he doesn't really know what to do?

Is thompson really that bad? He averaged 8 and 7 not having grown into his body yet, he really has no room to improve at all?? Really?? Isn't he only 20? I read another thread you said he was a 43 percent free throw shooter. In reality the guy shot 63 percent in April and improved all season at the line and ended at 55 percent. By the end of the year he was massively improved there. So it was blatantly obvious the guy worked to improve something he was hideous at and did improve. Is that a terrible trait??

To summarize, I'm not really sure I get the pure and absolute hatred of Thompson.

For the 200th time, Thompson can't shoot and never will be able to, has an offensive ceiling of Andy, currently can't even get his dunks off cleanly, is a bad 1 on 1 defender and an okay weakside shot blocker. He also has no post moves.

His reboudn numbers were decent, but that is somewhat inflated when your team is shooting 40% on the season.

Very best case scenerio in a few years he is Andy. Probably scenerio, he is Tyrus Thomas.

scrambler wrote:i'm sorry, I'm just playing devils advocate. Now that LeBron is gone I see two Cavs games a year against Utah. I honestly have no clue about Thompson, but his stats for a very, very young kid playing the 4 didn't seem off the charts bad though.

So the general consensus is unless Grant has the number 1 overall, he doesn't really know what to do?

Thompson has unbelievable athleticism. The problem is his athleticism doesn't translate to any real basketball skills. He is, at best, a 7th or 8th man off the bench.

I'm not even sure Chris Grant knows what to do with the #1 overall pick, unless it's painfully obvious. Weren't they going back and forth between Irving and Williams?

motherscratcher wrote:On my way home from work, the radio guys (yeah, I know) were talking about hearing rumors of a trade with Golden state that invovled AV. They were saying that even before GS took Barnes.

Is this something that happens? Would it have happened by now?

If it hasn't happened yet, I will have jumped off the bridge before it does.

"The nose of the bulldog has been slanted backwards so that he can breathe without letting go." -- Winston Churchill

Is thompson really that bad? He averaged 8 and 7 not having grown into his body yet, he really has no room to improve at all?? Really?? Isn't he only 20? I read another thread you said he was a 43 percent free throw shooter. In reality the guy shot 63 percent in April and improved all season at the line and ended at 55 percent. By the end of the year he was massively improved there. So it was blatantly obvious the guy worked to improve something he was hideous at and did improve. Is that a terrible trait??

To summarize, I'm not really sure I get the pure and absolute hatred of Thompson.

For the 200th time, Thompson can't shoot and never will be able to, has an offensive ceiling of Andy, currently can't even get his dunks off cleanly, is a bad 1 on 1 defender and an okay weakside shot blocker. He also has no post moves.

His reboudn numbers were decent, but that is somewhat inflated when your team is shooting 40% on the season.

Very best case scenerio in a few years he is Andy. Probably scenerio, he is Tyrus Thomas.

Please, for the love of Dog, there is no reason to turn this thread into that thread.

Is thompson really that bad? He averaged 8 and 7 not having grown into his body yet, he really has no room to improve at all?? Really?? Isn't he only 20? I read another thread you said he was a 43 percent free throw shooter. In reality the guy shot 63 percent in April and improved all season at the line and ended at 55 percent. By the end of the year he was massively improved there. So it was blatantly obvious the guy worked to improve something he was hideous at and did improve. Is that a terrible trait??

To summarize, I'm not really sure I get the pure and absolute hatred of Thompson.

For the 200th time, Thompson can't shoot and never will be able to, has an offensive ceiling of Andy, currently can't even get his dunks off cleanly, is a bad 1 on 1 defender and an okay weakside shot blocker. He also has no post moves.

His reboudn numbers were decent, but that is somewhat inflated when your team is shooting 40% on the season.

Very best case scenerio in a few years he is Andy. Probably scenerio, he is Tyrus Thomas.

so at least you're saying his ceiling is higher than Ryan Hollins maybe??

motherscratcher wrote:On my way home from work, the radio guys (yeah, I know) were talking about hearing rumors of a trade with Golden state that invovled AV. They were saying that even before GS took Barnes.

Is this something that happens? Would it have happened by now?

I'd have to imagine GS intends to keep Barnes. When they were discussing that trade I don't think GS expected Barnes to be there.

Is thompson really that bad? He averaged 8 and 7 not having grown into his body yet, he really has no room to improve at all?? Really?? Isn't he only 20? I read another thread you said he was a 43 percent free throw shooter. In reality the guy shot 63 percent in April and improved all season at the line and ended at 55 percent. By the end of the year he was massively improved there. So it was blatantly obvious the guy worked to improve something he was hideous at and did improve. Is that a terrible trait??

To summarize, I'm not really sure I get the pure and absolute hatred of Thompson.

For the 200th time, Thompson can't shoot and never will be able to, has an offensive ceiling of Andy, currently can't even get his dunks off cleanly, is a bad 1 on 1 defender and an okay weakside shot blocker. He also has no post moves.

His reboudn numbers were decent, but that is somewhat inflated when your team is shooting 40% on the season.

Very best case scenerio in a few years he is Andy. Probably scenerio, he is Tyrus Thomas.

Please, for the love of Dog, there is no reason to turn this thread into that thread.

Again.

I'm not a regular and don't read much cavs stuff here for the most part. So I have been not a part of any Tristan thread so don't know what's talked about. I honestly saw Thompson and the entire team play two games last year. It's hard to get a read on a guy when all I have are stats and a random dunk highlight.

After forgoing his final two years of eligibility, the Philadelphia native may be ready for a similar role in the NBA - providing an energetic scoring boost for a reserve unit while handling the ball when necessary.

Great. Two years in a row we pick a guy who at best will be a role player off the bench with the 4th pick.

As much as we didn't want Barnes, I would kill to have him now.

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"The nose of the bulldog has been slanted backwards so that he can breathe without letting go." -- Winston Churchill

After forgoing his final two years of eligibility, the Philadelphia native may be ready for a similar role in the NBA - providing an energetic scoring boost for a reserve unit while handling the ball when necessary.[/quote]

Great. Two years in a row we pick a guy who at best will be a role player off the bench with the 4th pick.

As much as we didn't want Barnes, I would kill to have him now.[/quote]

Well, it makes sense. When LBJ forces his way back to Cleveland we are finally going to have proper support and role players for him, dammit!

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