Mostly because of what I call force degradation. And that’s the death of force knowledge with each generation. Ancient sith / Jedi were all about 1M times stronger then the strongest sith / Jedi from the films.

So palp being strong is actually false. I try to correct that mistake when ever I hear it

Mostly because of what I call force degradation. And that’s the death of force knowledge with each generation. Ancient sith / Jedi were all about 1M times stronger then the strongest sith / Jedi from the films.

So palp being strong is actually false. I try to correct that mistake when ever I hear it

Palp is weak?

"Yoda went after Palpatine in the empty Senate chamber, but could not defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history."

Mostly because of what I call force degradation. And that’s the death of force knowledge with each generation. Ancient sith / Jedi were all about 1M times stronger then the strongest sith / Jedi from the films.

So palp being strong is actually false. I try to correct that mistake when ever I hear it

Palp is weak?

"Yoda went after Palpatine in the empty Senate chamber, but could not defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history."

Mostly because of what I call force degradation. And that’s the death of force knowledge with each generation. Ancient sith / Jedi were all about 1M times stronger then the strongest sith / Jedi from the films.

So palp being strong is actually false. I try to correct that mistake when ever I hear it

Palp is weak?

"Yoda went after Palpatine in the empty Senate chamber, but could not defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history."

I go by what Gillard and GL says, not some new comic writer or long term fan. Gilliard narrates much of the prequels with George and other cast members, as far as I’m concerned he is the gospel in LS combat forms up until Disney took over.
The rest is fan based or whatever the next new writer wants for his imitation form what I’ve read. Gillard says Anakin, Yoda, and Palpatine are 9s and the rest including Mace and OW are under that so that’s what I go with.

Would be interesting OP to hear how powerful Rey and Kylo are in comparison to Luke and past Jedi like Mace, Yoda, or Anakin. I almost have to say Rey or Kylo is more powerful that Luke in Disney’s universe, no so in the GL era.

I go by what Gillard and GL says, not some new comic writer or long term fan. Gilliard narrates much of the prequels with George and other cast members, as far as I’m concerned he is the gospel in LS combat forms up until Disney took over.
The rest is fan based or whatever the next new writer wants for his imitation form what I’ve read. Gillard says Anakin, Yoda, and Palpatine are 9s and the rest including Mace and OW are under that so that’s what I go with.

I go by what Gillard and GL says, not some new comic writer or long term fan. Gilliard narrates much of the prequels with George and other cast members, as far as I’m concerned he is the gospel in LS combat forms up until Disney took over.
The rest is fan based or whatever the next new writer wants for his imitation form what I’ve read. Gillard says Anakin, Yoda, and Palpatine are 9s and the rest including Mace and OW are under that so that’s what I go with.

Would be interesting to hear how powerful Rey and Kylo are in comparison.

Then how did Mace end up battle master?

The same way OW overcame the high ground against Maul, his superior, hmm, And yet Anakin, another superior, couldn’t do the same thing to a lesser opponent(OW). Or the same way Anakin destroyed Dooku with almost no effort. I guess for the story to happen/continue is all I can think of imo.

All I know is Mace ended up at the bottom of a street dead unless changes are made with Disney, and with one less arm. So much for shatterpoint and being all powerful. I agree, there’s quite a few potholes.

I go by what Gillard and GL says, not some new comic writer or long term fan. Gilliard narrates much of the prequels with George and other cast members, as far as I’m concerned he is the gospel in LS combat forms up until Disney took over.
The rest is fan based or whatever the next new writer wants for his imitation form what I’ve read. Gillard says Anakin, Yoda, and Palpatine are 9s and the rest including Mace and OW are under that so that’s what I go with.

Would be interesting to hear how powerful Rey and Kylo are in comparison.

Then how did Mace end up battle master?

The same way OW overcame the high ground against Maul, his superior, hmm, And yet Anakin, another superior, couldn’t do the same thing to a lesser opponent(OW). Or the same way Anakin destroyed Dooku with almost no effort. I guess for the story to happen/continue is all I can think of imo.

All I know is Mace ended up at the bottom of a street dead unless changes are made with Disney, and with one less arm. So much for shatterpoint and being all powerful. I agree, there’s quite a few potholes.

Shatterpoint wasn't the issue, he saw one on Palps and one on Anakin, and chose to focus on Palps.

I go by what Gillard and GL says, not some new comic writer or long term fan. Gilliard narrates much of the prequels with George and other cast members, as far as I’m concerned he is the gospel in LS combat forms up until Disney took over.
The rest is fan based or whatever the next new writer wants for his imitation form what I’ve read. Gillard says Anakin, Yoda, and Palpatine are 9s and the rest including Mace and OW are under that so that’s what I go with.

Would be interesting to hear how powerful Rey and Kylo are in comparison.

Then how did Mace end up battle master?

The same way OW overcame the high ground against Maul, his superior, hmm, And yet Anakin, another superior, couldn’t do the same thing to a lesser opponent(OW). Or the same way Anakin destroyed Dooku with almost no effort. I guess for the story to happen/continue is all I can think of imo.

All I know is Mace ended up at the bottom of a street dead unless changes are made with Disney, and with one less arm. So much for shatterpoint and being all powerful. I agree, there’s quite a few potholes.

Shatterpoint wasn't the issue, he saw one on Palps and one on Anakin, and chose to focus on Palps.

I go by what Gillard and GL says, not some new comic writer or long term fan. Gilliard narrates much of the prequels with George and other cast members, as far as I’m concerned he is the gospel in LS combat forms up until Disney took over.
The rest is fan based or whatever the next new writer wants for his imitation form what I’ve read. Gillard says Anakin, Yoda, and Palpatine are 9s and the rest including Mace and OW are under that so that’s what I go with.

Would be interesting to hear how powerful Rey and Kylo are in comparison.

Then how did Mace end up battle master?

The same way OW overcame the high ground against Maul, his superior, hmm, And yet Anakin, another superior, couldn’t do the same thing to a lesser opponent(OW). Or the same way Anakin destroyed Dooku with almost no effort. I guess for the story to happen/continue is all I can think of imo.

All I know is Mace ended up at the bottom of a street dead unless changes are made with Disney, and with one less arm. So much for shatterpoint and being all powerful. I agree, there’s quite a few potholes.

Shatterpoint wasn't the issue, he saw one on Palps and one on Anakin, and chose to focus on Palps.

If you're asking me, then I would say Sheev Palpatine (aka Darth Sidious) is the most powerful. The Chosen One, Anakin Skywalker would have eventually surpassed him (as either Anakin Skywalker or Darth Vader) if he wasn't sliced and diced on Mustafar.