They reached a daily average above 400 parts per million, reported NOAA, for the first time in human history.

The milestone, hit on May 9, may be symbolic, notes Climate Central, but manmade CO2 emissions from the burning of fossil fuels continue to rise, bringing greater atmospheric warming and exacerbating the effects of climate change.

Research also shows that continued emissions of long-lived greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide will mean "largely irreversible" climate change for 1,000 years even after we curtail emissions.

"The last time we're confident that CO2 was sustained at these levels is more than 10 million years ago, during the middle of the Miocene period," climate scientist Michael Mann told The Huffington Post in an email. "This was a time when global temperatures were substantially warmer than today, and there was very little ice around anywhere on the planet."

While I strongly support environmental issues, there is also one problem which is not so easy to deal with. And that is the fact that this planet was not meant to support 7+ billion humans on it. And that number keeps growing at a geometric rate. Overpopulation of the planet is the biggest environmental disaster and while there may not be much we can do about it, it won't be too long I fear before mother nature does something about it with environmental disasters, plague, famine and so forth to bring the human population back into balance with nature.

I'm reminded of the early Floyd lyric "And if you survive to 2005, I hope you're exceedingly thin, for if you are stout, you will have to breathe out, while the people around you breathe in".

Edited by The Doctor - May 11 2013 at 14:26

I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?

And that is the fact that this planet was not meant to support 7+ billion humans on it.

You need to re-think that statement. There are a lot more than 7 billion organisms on Earth. It's what people do that causes issues.

You mean like breathing? I'm not discounting the factories, cars, etc, but breathing alone pumps a lot of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. Not to mention that we use up resources faster than the rest of the organisms on the planet combined. The planet may be able to support trillions of organisms, but not 7+ billion people. I stand by my original statement.

I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?

While I strongly support environmental issues, there is also one problem which is not so easy to deal with. And that is the fact that this planet was not meant to support 7+ billion humans on it. And that number keeps growing at a geometric rate. Overpopulation of the planet is the biggest environmental disaster and while there may not be much we can do about it, it won't be too long I fear before mother nature does something about it with environmental disasters, plague, famine and so forth to bring the human population back into balance with nature.

I'm reminded of the early Floyd lyric "And if you survive to 2005, I hope you're exceedingly thin, for if you are stout, you will have to breathe out, while the people around you breathe in".

I agree but what can we do? Should we start adopting Friedrich Nietzsche's ideas.

I agree but what can we do? Should we start adopting Friedrich Nietzsche's ideas.

It's Malthus Time.

yea but that so called "philosophy" worked in the middle ages,where everyone died off plague,and they needed to have as much kids as possible (god's will)

but still religion is to blame (mostly) because if it wasn't for that primitive fairy tails women would be free to get abortions use pills to prevent pregnancy and man could use plastic bags for their ding dong. This would decrees the numbers a bit if everyone used it

I agree but what can we do? Should we start adopting Friedrich Nietzsche's ideas.

It's Malthus Time.

yea but that so called "philosophy" worked in the middle ages,where everyone died off plague,and they needed to have as much kids as possible (god's will)

but still religion is to blame (mostly) because if it wasn't for that primitive fairy tails women would be free to get abortions use pills to prevent pregnancy and man could use plastic bags for their ding dong. This would decrees the numbers a bit if everyone used it

This is happening. Reproduction in most of the developed world is not meeting the replacement rate.

And that is the fact that this planet was not meant to support 7+ billion humans on it.

You need to re-think that statement. There are a lot more than 7 billion organisms on Earth. It's what people do that causes issues.

You mean like breathing? I'm not discounting the factories, cars, etc, but breathing alone pumps a lot of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. Not to mention that we use up resources faster than the rest of the organisms on the planet combined. The planet may be able to support trillions of organisms, but not 7+ billion people. I stand by my original statement.

Sure it can. It's just not quite made to be assaulted by human.

"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "

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