@Techbytes : Is it true that you sold your LSK to support another project ? :/

Not true.

-tb-

Okay then, so why do they complain ? One guy said "I don't like what you are doing with your forged Lisk." and you said that too earlier, that they don't like what you're doing with your forged LSK.Can you tell me what you do with your forged LSK and they don't like ?

@Techbytes : Is it true that you sold your LSK to support another project ? :/

Not true.

-tb-

Okay then, so why do they complain ? One guy said "I don't like what you are doing with your forged Lisk." and you said that too earlier, that they don't like what you're doing with your forged LSK.Can you tell me what you do with your forged LSK and they don't like ?

what concerns me also since longer time is #1 delegate thepool.io. Their acutally 75% share sounds fair, but their 0.2 Lisk payout threshold is such stupid. As smaller voter, I get average payouts of ~0.25 Lisk, but each time 0.10 Lisk network fee will be deducted.

Update: it looks like thepool.io just increased their payout threshold from 0.2 to 1.0 Lisk.Thats good to see, even that the "voice" of us voters find more and more open ears.So keep posting here your concerns with delegates, guys.

Can you tell us, how exactly do every GDTpool member contribute to the pool ?How many LSK do they send to the pool for each block they forge ?

Every forging GDT contributes to the pool sending at least 150 LSK every week.GDTpool is only 3 months old, in the first month we rewarded our voters with 300 LSK / day.In the 2nd month we upped it to 400/day and this month to 500/day.

Our goal on GDT is not to compete by giving the higher rewards. We hold most of our forging rewards to support APPS as soon as they are available.You can see what we have been doing here: https://liskgdt.net/contributionsIt needs some updates since we are allways doing stuff, at this time mrv finished a new wallet and we are waiting for the designer to finish it, for ex.What we want is to have the SDK out and start building Apps, if that have happened already and we got some Apps out, there would be no doubts about GDT goals.

And you're telling us that "usually", each month, there's a change on the list and what ? We have to change our vote every month, which means votepaying 1.1 LSK ?

Yes. 1 month ago philhellmuth joined GDT. He is now the Irish embassador organizing meetups to spread awereness and a known and valuable asset to Lisk.This month we added Vekexasia. He is a develover that already solved some Lisk bugs, you can see his contributions on Github.We hope to have him forging soon so he can continue to dedicate his time to Lisk development and gets us closer to the SDK and the Apps.Next month we will add 5an1ty and joo5ty. Both known members of the community, 5an1ty beeing another talented developer and joo5ty a strong Lisk supporter very active in the community.

So yes, it does cost 1 Lisk and Lisk is getting expensive, but the fees will be reduced (it was already promissed by LISKHQ and we hope it happens soon). Until then, its well worth spending 1 Lisk every month if it helps to make GDT stronger.Note that we are not just adding new members, some of our old members are leaving due to their poor contributions to Lisk. We are trying to keep our number of delegates at 32-33.1/3 of the Network beeing supported by trusted individuals with diferent skill sets is a good thing in our view.

I think all Lisk supporters should see the importance of having valuable individuals taking care of Lisk, people that can be contacted at any time and are ready to build on Lisk, intead of the onesthat are just sharing profits to take some for themselfs, with no contributions to the echosystem.In the end, thats whats going to make Lisk worth $100

Can you tell us, how exactly do every GDTpool member contribute to the pool ?How many LSK do they send to the pool for each block they forge ?

Every forging GDT contributes to the pool sending at least 150 LSK every week.GDTpool is only 3 months old, in the first month we rewarded our voters with 300 LSK / day.In the 2nd month we upped it to 400/day and this month to 500/day.

Our goal on GDT is not to compete by giving the higher rewards. We hold most of our forging rewards to support APPS as soon as they are available.You can see what we have been doing here: https://liskgdt.net/contributionsIt needs some updates since we are allways doing stuff, at this time mrv finished a new wallet and we are waiting for the designer to finish it, for ex.What we want is to have the SDK out and start building Apps, if that have happened already and we got some Apps out, there would be no doubts about GDT goals.

And you're telling us that "usually", each month, there's a change on the list and what ? We have to change our vote every month, which means votepaying 1.1 LSK ?

Yes. 1 month ago philhellmuth joined GDT. He is now the Irish embassador organizing meetups to spread awereness and a known and valuable asset to Lisk.This month we added Vekexasia. He is a develover that already solved some Lisk bugs, you can see his contributions on Github.We hope to have him forging soon so he can continue to dedicate his time to Lisk development and gets us closer to the SDK and the Apps.Next month we will add 5an1ty and joo5ty. Both known members of the community, 5an1ty beeing another talented developer and joo5ty a strong Lisk supporter very active in the community.

So yes, it does cost 1 Lisk and Lisk is getting expensive, but the fees will be reduced (it was already promissed by LISKHQ and we hope it happens soon). Until then, its well worth spending 1 Lisk every month if it helps to make GDT stronger.Note that we are not just adding new members, some of our old members are leaving due to their poor contributions to Lisk. We are trying to keep our number of delegates at 32-33.1/3 of the Network beeing supported by trusted individuals with diferent skill sets is a good thing in our view.

I think all Lisk supporters should see the importance of having valuable individuals taking care of Lisk, people that can be contacted at any time and are ready to build on Lisk, intead of the onesthat are just sharing profits to take some for themselfs, with no contributions to the echosystem.In the end, thats whats going to make Lisk worth $100

Can you tell us, how exactly do every GDTpool member contribute to the pool ?How many LSK do they send to the pool for each block they forge ?

Can you explain why there are so many delegates not sharing at all ? (0% : 11 delegates !)And many others sharing less than 25% ? (<25% : 8 delegates !)And noone (except GDTpool itself) sharing more than 40% ?

Why should we vote for you guys when there are delegates who share far more than most of yours ?

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The pool list usually gets a small change on 1st of every month, so remember to check the list then.

And you're telling us that "usually", each month, there's a change on the list and what ? We have to change our vote every month, which means votepaying 1.1 LSK ? Either i don't understand what you said or you're kidding, right ?

you need to understand, if you have less than 100k lsk and ask this all question its bad! whales decide always

via https://dpostools.com/LISK/ only, you can recognize how much "Lisk Elite" has overtaken the 101 delegates list meanwhile.Just consider the many black /!\ at the right side - each of them is is a "Elite" member paying lousy 25%. Don't support them.

Hello everyone! As not everyone would know, I am an early supporter of Lisk running nodes since april 2016 I want to inform you guys that I decided to increase my share with my voters from 25% to 50% starting this week! - weekly payoutsFor more details about my donations and sharing distribution here is my proposal and my pool stats page: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=136&p=494#p494Vote for samuray - rank 92 !

Hello everyone! As not everyone would know, I am an early supporter of Lisk running nodes since april 2016 I want to inform you guys that I decided to increase my share with my voters from 25% to 50% starting this week! - weekly payoutsFor more details about my donations and sharing distribution here is my proposal and my pool stats page: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=136&p=494#p494Vote for samuray - rank 92 !

too late. you should have shared more from the beginning. i hope that nobody will vote you because of the increased sharing amount.

i think i have to make a list of delegates that suddenly start to share more.

I have some LSK at Bittrex for long time and never withdrew them seeing there is going to rebranding was extra reason to let them there. I see this voting discussion on previous pages that brings income. Am I late for this to cast my vote or still can proceed after withdrawing from there ? When actually the rebranding is going to take place, any estimate ?

Hello everyone! As not everyone would know, I am an early supporter of Lisk running nodes since april 2016 I want to inform you guys that I decided to increase my share with my voters from 25% to 50% starting this week! - weekly payoutsFor more details about my donations and sharing distribution here is my proposal and my pool stats page: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=136&p=494#p494Vote for samuray - rank 92 !

Sounds cool but I think that you should have done it earlier.I mean, most of the people already offer you much more then that and I don't think that they are going to just return to your pool.I believe that the actual fair rate should be something around 80%

Can you tell us, how exactly do every GDTpool member contribute to the pool ?How many LSK do they send to the pool for each block they forge ?

Every forging GDT contributes to the pool sending at least 150 LSK every week.GDTpool is only 3 months old, in the first month we rewarded our voters with 300 LSK / day.In the 2nd month we upped it to 400/day and this month to 500/day.

Okay. 150 LSK per delegate/GDTmember per week. And how many LSK does one delegate earn each week forging ? How many blocks are forged by one individual delegate each week ?

And you're telling us that "usually", each month, there's a change on the list and what ? We have to change our vote every month, which means votepaying 1.1 LSK ?

Yes. 1 month ago philhellmuth joined GDT. He is now the Irish embassador organizing meetups to spread awereness and a known and valuable asset to Lisk.This month we added Vekexasia. He is a develover that already solved some Lisk bugs, you can see his contributions on Github.We hope to have him forging soon so he can continue to dedicate his time to Lisk development and gets us closer to the SDK and the Apps.Next month we will add 5an1ty and joo5ty. Both known members of the community, 5an1ty beeing another talented developer and joo5ty a strong Lisk supporter very active in the community.

So yes, it does cost 1 Lisk and Lisk is getting expensive, but the fees will be reduced (it was already promissed by LISKHQ and we hope it happens soon). Until then, its well worth spending 1 Lisk every month if it helps to make GDT stronger.Note that we are not just adding new members, some of our old members are leaving due to their poor contributions to Lisk. We are trying to keep our number of delegates at 32-33.1/3 of the Network beeing supported by trusted individuals with diferent skill sets is a good thing in our view.

I think all Lisk supporters should see the importance of having valuable individuals taking care of Lisk, people that can be contacted at any time and are ready to build on Lisk, intead of the onesthat are just sharing profits to take some for themselfs, with no contributions to the echosystem.In the end, thats whats going to make Lisk worth $100

Me and lots of people here barely even get 2 LSK a month. Even when one get, say, 10 LSK a month, that's not worth it. Only whales can afford to vote for you...And even with bigger rewards a month, i won't votepay to keep my votes up-to-date with your unstable member list, to support so many people who keep nearly 90% (or even more) of their forging outputs for their own wealth.

There are ONLY 101 delegates, and i think giving one third of this forging power to 1 POOL only is a very big mistake, moreover when this pool at a whole clearly doesn't want to share its rewards with voters/LSK owners.

So I'm bad for voters, even though I provide a lot for the lisk community? Including closing Github issues at lisk's beginning, providing lisktools.io (which does need to be updated, but waiting for Lisk 1.0 with new API), and providing the Lisk Android Wallet https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mrv.liskgdt.walletgr33ndrag0n is bad even though he has been the one providing the most reliable snapshots for everyone, makes sure snapshots work with new lisk releases, and has provided alternate wallets and explorer sine the beginning?hmachado is bad even though he has provided liskak for all delegates to keep their nodes running smoothly4miners.net is bad even though he has provided great new explorer features and has contributed to closing GitHub issues....I could go on

If you just care about getting percentage returns on your holdings, then I think you are looking for PoS coins

There are ONLY 101 delegates, and i think giving one third of this forging power to 1 POOL only is a very big mistake, moreover when this pool at a whole clearly doesn't want to share its rewards with voters/LSK owners.

-If you are worried about GDT having 1/3 the forging power, I can only image what you think of Elite with over 1/2 You also have to understand GDT is not just a pool, that's the bonus part. We try to make sure our members are actively contributing to the system. Whether it's writing scripts, fixing GitHub issues, doing social media, creating new sites and apps, participating in lisk.chat and helping newcomers, etc.

-I agree voting fees need to be lower and everyone hopes they will be with lisk 1.0-Changing to 1000 delegates is not easy; you are changing the whole consensus of the system by 10x. Also, currently I don't think there are 1000 unique delegates that are running nodes 24/7. You would get a lot of people running multiple nodes since the barrier for entry is so low. At this point too, you might as well just be PoS.-As for a minimal sharing; that's not the point of DPoS. DPoS is about rewarding delegates that are working hard for the system and actively contributing to it. That's where DPoS has an advantage over PoS. In PoS a lot of people just sit idle and let their wallet get a return like a savings account, since there is no incentive to do more. In DPoS if active delegates aren't working to improve the system, voters should unvote them and get someone else worthy in.