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Hi Maurice. We only put Legacy in Canon pages because it was released after April 25th, which was the day that Lucasfilm announced that the Expanded Universe had become Legends. We made a decision here to keep Episodes I-VI and Seasons 1-6 of The Clone Wars in Legends pages, because they were necessary to tell the story in many Legends pages, but that's because Episodes I-VI and Seasons 1-6 were released before April 25th. Anything The Clone Wars-related from after April 25th, like Son of Dathomir, "Crystal Crisis on Utapau," and Dark Disciple, are only put into Canon pages. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 16:27, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Just weighing in, the SoD trade paperback uses the old Eras system, which places it in the Rise of the Empire era. It seems like its intended to be placed in both. - AV-6R7User talk:AV-6R7 17:08, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Actually no, that's a fundamental misunderstanding of Canon and Legends. The only place where something is both Canon and Legends is on Wookieepedia (and any website that may choose to follow our way on that). Officially, there is nothing that is both Canon and Legends. Episodes I-VI and Seasons 1-6 are, officially, just Canon. We apply them to Legends, which officially is just a brand name, because we basically have to for the Legends story to make sense. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 17:48, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Bad Batch

Hey Brandon. I realize that Hildalgo's comments indicate that Lucasfilm considers all of the unaired stories to be canon, but for us as the audience, we've mostly heard about those stories through unofficial means. For example, we know that some of the unfinished story arcs involved everything from The Bad Batch to something about Yoda and the Wookiees, but the problem is that we don't know the exact nature, content, or details of those stories—besides the fact that, in canon, they simply took place. The difference between these unreleased stories and, say, the Crystal Crisis on Utapau story reels is that the latter episodes were released officially, even in their unfinished state. On the other hand, all of the information that we have about The Bad Batch story arc has come from Brent Friedman, who himself isn't technically a "canon" source, at least in the way WP:CANON defines it. I realize he's the one who wrote these stories, and that's not to say I don't respect his work (I do, greatly), but when it comes down to it, we can't treat his words as canon or official, at least in the way that a canon adaptation of the story (say, a novel or comic) would be. That's why I don't think it's fit to tag the episode articles as canon.

I suppose a simpler way of putting it is that while the "story" that The Bad Batch episodes tell is canon, the episode itself—being unfinished and unreleased—is not. However, I do realize that there are a lot of gray areas within this matter, mostly due to the fact that Lucasfilm hasn't yet chosen to (or announced that they will) officially release these unaired stories. As we get more information (if at all) about them, I imagine we'll need a more definitive policy for how to incorporate this info into our articles. Also, that's true about the Legends tag; I'll remove it.

Thanks, and let me know if you have any more questions. CC7567(talk) 21:34, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

You make a good point, and even though you weren't necessarily advocating for this, I think it would be a good idea to delete the IU pages relating to The Bad Batch altogether—e.g. delete The Bad Batch (the IU article) and replace it with The Bad Batch (episode). It's better to contain the information within the OOU articles instead of keeping an IU article whose canon status is entirely unconfirmed by all accounts. As for the OOU episode articles, at this point I believe it's worth keeping them because they're technically official. By that, I mean that they're placeholders until (or if) Lucasfilm decides to release the stories through official means. I know it sounds like I'm reneging on my point that Friedman isn't an official source for information, but since he did provide the episode titles, there's enough to warrant their existence as articles, at least until/if the stories are officially published. At that point, they can be merged with the hypothetical comic/novel/whatever adaptation, similar to the way that the Son of Dathomir comic issues note the original title of the episode script that they were adapted from. CC7567(talk) 21:54, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Hmmm... Isn't this almost the opposite of what you were saying before? Earlier you were saying that although the story was canon, the episodes were not. Now you seem to be saying the complete opposite, supporting the deletion of a page that is an actual in-universe part of the story, and keeping the episode pages. Cevan (talk) 21:59, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

I agree with CC's proposal to contain all information in the OOU pages. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 22:02, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Cevan: just to clarify, the point I was making about the episodes not being canon (and by that, I mean taking place within the new continuity that excludes the EU, as defined by WP:CANON) was to explain why the episode articles do not deserve having canon tags. However, the episodes themselves are official in the sense that they were fully scripted for TV production, until production on TCW stopped. On the other hand, the exact in-universe content and nature of The Bad Batch is currently impossible to define, because we don't have a canon source that details said information. For example, if Lucasfilm were to officially adapt the episodes into another medium, the new author or writer will definitely revise certain aspects of the story, and might even choose to give "The Bad Batch" a different name altogether. That's just a hypothetical of course, but the point remains that currently, we don't have any actual canon information on The Bad Batch, which is why the in-universe article needs to be deleted. CC7567(talk) 22:11, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Jedi Archives Wiki

Why did you close our wikia, dude? We only had one actual copied page and we even said we were going to remove the copied layout and everything once we got the chance to. You've unfairly closed our wiki. GrandmasteroftheArchives (talk) 02:30, March 1, 2015 (UTC)

Rotary blaster canon

Ah yes I've seen it now. I was under the impression it was a more generic page, where as I was linking to the precise model. Of course I did not realize one was legends and one was the canon. All is well--CC3636 (talk) 00:11, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

Re: BBY/ABY

Thanks for the info Brandon, I was wondering why there was no ABY or BBY anywhere! --CC3636 (talk) 21:31, March 3, 2015 (UTC)

Rebels episode guide picture

Hey Brandon. I saw you had uploaded some of these in the past so I figured I'd ask you. Basically I was just wondering how exactly you get the main picture before each Rebels episode guide as a full, high quality image? Fire Across the Galaxy hasn't been updated with its picture yet, and I'm afraid I'm not sure how to do it. Thanks! Cevan (talk) 23:07, March 3, 2015 (UTC)

You open up the main image of the Episode Guide in a new tab. You'll see a whole bunch of stuff after the ".jpg" part that includes height and width parameters. Remove everything after ".jpg" and that creates the full image. That said, I'm not sure what the protocol is for an episode like "Fire Across the Galaxy." For example, on Star Wars Rebels: Spark of Rebellion, we still use the poster, not the Episode Guide image, because that episode has a poster. "Fire Across the Galaxy" has a logo, so I'm thinking it should probably keep the logo. At least on the episode page itself. Star Wars Rebels: Season One should be updated with the Episode Guide image. Maybe ask on Talk:Fire Across the Galaxy? - Brandon Rhea(talk) 23:43, March 3, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Breha Organa

Thank you very much! It's probably full of typos, however. My spelling isn't that bad, but I've always had a hard time checking it properly on a screen. And as far as my grammar and syntax are concerned, well, I'm no native speaker of English. If you could have a look at those things at some point, that would be very nice of you. :-) (Actually, the hardest part is to include everything in the BTS without using the same phrases as in the Legends article.) --LelalMekha (talk) 20:12, March 4, 2015 (UTC)

I might do Evaan too, unless someone beats me to the punch. My editing habits don't make me very competitive; I always work very slowly, and often on multiple articles at a time. Since my command of the English language is less natural, I feel compelled to rework my sentences all the time. (And even that doesn't prevent typos. Darned screen!) --LelalMekha (talk) 20:21, March 4, 2015 (UTC)

For a short time, when the textless preview pages were released, I hoped that she might be Winter Celchu. Ah, well... One can dream, right? What I do hope, however, is that we'll learn more about the culture of Alderaan. --LelalMekha (talk) 21:00, March 4, 2015 (UTC)

Good. I don't think there's much more to add about Canon Breha for the time being, so I'll be working some more on the article tomorrow, and Bob's your uncle. --LelalMekha (talk) 22:32, March 4, 2015 (UTC)

Erm, yes, sorry. I didn't realize this was a strictly British English idiom. ^^' I should have stuck to "and it's done!" (I watch too much British TV, I guess.) --LelalMekha (talk) 22:45, March 4, 2015 (UTC)

I think Breha's article is ripe for a copy edit. ;-) Whenever you have a moment, you can just go with it. Thanks in advance. --LelalMekha (talk) 17:40, March 6, 2015 (UTC)

Good. Thanks for your help. At last that article is up to date... for now. Let us hope she'll crop up more in the future. --LelalMekha (talk) 12:47, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

Lothal rebels - Cham Syndulla

Brandon - when you changed the source on the Lothal rebels page regarding Cham being Hera's father, you only used a ref name without the actual reference inside, one that would normally be used if the reference was already on the page earlier in the article. There's no actual reference, so it's broken at the bottom. ProfessorTofty (talk) 01:50, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

Templates for the Star Wars Rebels Magazine

Hello Brandon. Since the Star Wars Rebels Magazine is still fairly new (two issues as of today), I think it would be good to make it all clean and organized from the start. Because of that, I think we need a proper citation template for the stories and articles that appear in that magazine, like the one we use for the Star Wars Insider. However, I don't have the knowledge required to create such templates. Do you think you could make one? --LelalMekha (talk) 15:14, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

I've tried to create templates like that in the past and, unfortunately, haven't been very successful, so I'm afraid I don't have the knowledge either. I'd reiterate what I said on Talk:Jango Fett, though; I question whether that magazine can be a canon source. Do we have any indication that there's any Lucasfilm/official involvement init? - Brandon Rhea(talk) 15:41, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry to butt in and join the conversation, but what will we do if they aren't considered canon? The magazine seems to be Disney approved, given that it has the logo and everything, so we should still document them, but surely counting them as legends makes no sense either. Would we need to have them as canon-non-canon pages? Ayrehead02 (talk) 16:28, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

Well before anything else, let's remember to avoid the idea that something is either Canon or Legends. There is another option, which is "this has no canonicity to it at all." It's the same way we treat the StarWars.com blogs; they're simply a regurgitation of information, in most cases, so they're not really Canon or Legends, even if they contain Canon or Legends information within them, unless they explicitly state otherwise (a recent blog about Max Rebo Band specifically labeled things as Canon or Legends, which was very nice to see).

The magazine, in and of itself, is neither Canon nor Legends. That's how we treat Insider as well, so we have to be careful with what information we include. We do the same thing with Insider. Take a recent example. I recently moved Madine to Crix Madine/Canon because Insider 155 used that name. Toprawa, however, correctly pointed out that Insider still often uses information from Legends. So, while Crix is likely his Canon name, until we see it in a clear Canon source we're better being safe than sorry. The name was therefore moved back to Madine.

If the Disney logo is on this Rebels UK magazine, then yeah it's fair game to include. I'd still treat it similarly to how we treat Insider, though. If there is information that originated in Legends, and we haven't seen that information in an official Canon source, then we shouldn't include that information. It's a safe assumption that in the case of both Insider and the Rebels UK magazines, the Story Group is only vetting the original fiction, not every single article. The articles would be much like the StarWars.com blogs, in my opinion.

So for now, I'd say treat the short story as Canon for sure, but don't use in-universe information from articles unless that information has canonically originated elsewhere. Better safe than sorry at some point, since the information that Lelal quoted from the magazine is, in many cases, just outright wrong. This also makes how we treat the Rebels UK magazine consistent with how we treat Insider.

Canon articles with unsourced names

Hello! I'm bringing this over here so that, if/when the Koho/Canon page gets deleted, it can be referred to in the future. When we come across a Canon page that isn't named in a canonical source, how do we take care of it? Put a Delete tag on it with "Not named in a Canon source"? Or something else? Operative lm (talk) 00:41, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

I'd put {{Confirm}} on it unless you're 100% sure that the character is unnamed anywhere. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 00:51, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Insider stories

Hello, Brandon. Unfortunately, you're a bit out of your luck on this one: while I do have a copy of the 156th issue, I don't have the one you're looking for, the one with Nakari. Sorry about that, my friend. :-/ --LelalMekha (talk) 21:22, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

No worries. Looks like Ayrehead02 was able to upload it. Thanks, Ayrehead02! - Brandon Rhea(talk) 22:39, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

Attack on Imperial interrogator droids

Thanks, that's sweet of you! Good luck on the nomination. Since I would be sharing co-credit, I guess I should probably not vote on it as a conflict of interest, possibly. ProfessorTofty (talk) 11:11, March 13, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Card Trader

Will do, Brandon. Is there any one place where the discussion for how to classify it is being held? Cevan (talk) 20:24, March 13, 2015 (UTC)

Should a Senate Hall forum thread be made for it? Cevan (talk) 20:29, March 13, 2015 (UTC)

Categories

Remember to add the eras template as well. For articles that don't have Legends equivalents, like the events of the new comics, use {{Eras|type=canon}}. For conjectural titles, remember to add {{Conjecture|canon=1}} as well. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 00:59, March 16, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah I know, I got distracted halfway through and got sloppy...Congrats on 10,000 edits by the way! Calvin Schubert(talk) 01:04, March 16, 2015 (UTC)

R series

The R series was first IDed in Canon by Gha Nackt in Downfall of a Droid. - AV-6R7User talk:AV-6R7 23:06, March 21, 2015 (UTC)

Recent reversion

Hello Brandon, while admittedly I don't follow NuCanon, seeing your reversion of my Bast edit, I thought the rules for what counted as Canon sources were never exclusive to only things made after 4/25, but rather as of 4/25 only a limited amount of what used to be all one canon are to still remain canon, chiefly TCW and the 6 films. While most NuCanon sources were released after the date, I checked the Layout Guide and didn't see any statement that only post-4/25 sources are to be listed in Canon articles. I would think that any sources with the Canon tag should be there. And with the ANH SW.com page, perhaps that clip with Bast was just removed when the site was modified on 7/1, since it was there when I added it to Moradmin Bast's article before the site revamp. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 03:57, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

Hey Hanzo. I've been told consistently by admins not to add anything from before April 25th. For example, I had wanted to add the reference book The Making of Return of the Jedi to a canon GAN that I wrote, and I was told to remove it. I don't really agree with this, but that's what I've been told. Hope that clarifies. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 04:02, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

Okay that makes sense, assuming they specifically said that includes stuff that is given the Canon tag. You were also iffy about Bast's death in the film alone, but unlike Tagge, who was last onscreen before Alderaan's destruction, Bast was on the Death Star just seconds before it was destroyed. But I'm content with Vader #1 being used as the source. Just wondering, does whatever it apparently says to verify Bast's death apply to any other of those conference room Imperials? If so, damn shame Hurst Romodi and Trech Molock's fates were never established in Legends. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 04:07, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

It doesn't, no. The comic makes it sound like Tagge was the only one who escaped, but given that - as you said - that scene was before the Disaster and the Battle of Yavin, it's entirely possible any number of them left along with Tagge. I think the only one we know died for sure is Motti and maybe Yularen. The only reason I added Vader #1 as a tighter source is because Sidious calls Vader the only survivor of the catastrophe, and we see Bast on screen in the film just before the station's destruction. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 04:11, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. So it sounds like no more tons of Canon Death Star evacuees, or was that statement only for the Death Star's leadership? Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 04:19, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

Don't get me wrong regarding the quote. In the context of the comic, when you see everything about the character and her bumbling personality, it is definitely funny. She's a well-written character so far. But out of context, when you can't see the other dialogue from that scene, it looks like a relationship-focused quote. That's why I said it felt like a cliched stereotype, because female characters are too often defined by their relationships (romantic or otherwise) with male characters. I changed the quote in order to avoid that perception on the article, because the quote, out of context, created that perception. Now, as for the infobox, the big things I noticed in editing the mission articles you've made are as follows:

You only need to use bullet points in a list. If there's only one item, such as in each faction box or in the objectives section, you don't need a bullet.

You made easily correctable spelling errors. Be sure to spell check before you hit Publish. Obviously you'll miss some things sometimes (I do too) but I've noticed you misspelling easy words like Anakin and Skywalker. Easy fix, just need to be cognizant of it.

Remember to only capitalize proper nouns. For example, you've said "1 Archaeologist" even though archaeologist is not a proper noun.

Those are the big things I've noticed. Was there something else in particular you were thinking of regarding infoboxes? - Brandon Rhea(talk) 00:43, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

Well, that's a good argument for the quote, (although I wasn't going to argue anyway) and as far as the infoboxes go that about covers my questions/complaints. My desktop has a large mechanical keyboard meant for gaming, (Counter-Strike FTW) so the keys are cherry MX whatever and trigger very easily; hence the sloppy typing. That about covers it Brandon, thanks! Calvin Schubert(talk) 01:15, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

Steam group?

While on the off-topic subject of PC gaming...do you think it would be acceptable to create a Steam group for Wookieepedia? Primarily a private group where editors like you and I could easily organize events and keep track of each other? When Battlefront and other games hit the market I want to step on all you people in an AT-AT...jus' sayin. If you don't know what Steam is I'm not even going to try to explain it. (Sorry, I'm terrible at that kinda thing.) Here's a link:http://store.steampowered.com/Calvin Schubert(talk) 01:15, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

You could ask in the Senate Hall. I'm not a gamer so it wouldn't really apply to me. I likely won't play the new Battlefront anyway; my most advanced console is a PlayStation 2. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 01:17, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry to burst your bubble, but it appears that any new Star Wars title on the PC will be available only on Origin. - AV-6R7User talk:AV-6R7 01:18, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, Origin and Ea, the perfect pair! You can easily add non-Steam games to Steam using that icon on the bottom left corner, so I'm expecting that to be an exceptional antidote to the Origin *shudder* problem. Calvin Schubert(talk) 01:24, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

Re: my opinion, I don't know enough about Steam or what it involves to really have an opinion. An SH thread is your best bet. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 01:26, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

For Batman

Batman has shown great goodness in many aspects of helping users (such as myself) in Wookieepediafying and Wookieepediawriting. Batman deserves this here gold star.