Why do so many liberals praise a religion that, at its root, is quite conservative, if not fundamentalist? Why do they defend a faith that would not defend them? Worse still, why do they defend a faith that, in some cases, would do violence to them?

Last week, Robert Spencer, Director of Jihad Watch and a New York Times bestselling author on radical Islam, was invited to speak at the University of Buffalo. But he was unable to say much because of the vocal opposition. He was shouted down and reviled, especially when attempting to read Islamic texts describing Islamic beliefs.

To paraphrase, “Not on our campus! We are progressive. We are liberal. We are enlightened. You will not bring your hate-filled bigotry here!”

In Spencer’s own words, “I spoke a few sentences and made a couple of points in between being screamed at by Leftist and Islamic supremacist fascists who think they’re opposing fascism.”

Did you catch that? Spencer was opposed by staunch liberals and staunch Muslims. What an odd couple they make, yet this has happened time and again in the recent past. Why?

A few years ago, I read about a pro-Hamas, anti-Israel rally led by feminists and LGBT activists, among others on the left. Why in the world would groups like this support Hamas, which would kill or imprison them for their beliefs (and their sexual or romantic proclivities)? And why would they oppose Israel, which would welcome them with open arms? (I’m not talking about religious Jews, who would certainly not welcome them. I’m talking about the population as a whole, which is quite “progressive.” Note also that it wasn’t the ultra-Orthodox Jews who were fighting Hamas, so the rally was not targeting them.)

This makes no sense, unless there is something deeper that unites these groups (such as anti-Israel animus) or a serious deception they are buying into (such as the idea that true Islam is always a religion of peace and tolerance…

Getting back to Robert Spencer (not to be confused with the alt-right leader Richard Spencer), he has “led seminars on Islam and jihad for the FBI, the United States Central Command, United States Army Command and General Staff College, the U.S. Army’s Asymmetric Warfare Group, the Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF), the Justice Department’s Anti-Terrorism Advisory Council and the U.S. intelligence community. He has discussed jihad, Islam, and terrorism at a workshop sponsored by the U.S. State Department and the German Foreign Ministry. He is a consultant with the Center for Security Policy and vice president of the American Freedom Defense Initiative.

“Spencer has appeared on the BBC, ABC News, CNN, FoxNews’s O’Reilly Factor, Megyn Kelly’s The Kelly File, the Sean Hannity Show,” among many, many others, which would lead one to believe that he was highly qualified to give an address on campus.

Not today. His allegedly bigoted views about a beautiful religion were not welcome. He is in violation of the progressive PC code, which includes, “Thou shalt not insult Islam.”

The University of Buffalo’s student newspaper reported, “Spencer planned to speak to students about ‘the dangers of jihad in today’s world’ but constant heckling from the crowd made it near impossible for him to complete a full sentence.”

Ah, the blissful beauty of tolerance! How mellifluous are its melodies. How sweet its sounds. Hardly.

Spencer wrote, “These students have been hoodwinked into thinking that ‘Islamophobes,’ rather than jihad terrorists, are killing people around the world.”

Yes, those are the really dangerous enemies, those “Islamophobes,” not those jihadi terrorists. And the enemies are not the Islamists who enforce a death penalty for “apostasy” (meaning, leaving Islam). The enemies are the ones who call this barbary out.

Spencer noted the biting irony of it all: “For example, one man held a sign that read ‘Queers Against Islamophobia.’ The crowd booed lustily when I attempted to read from Islamic authorities about Islam’s death penalty for homosexuality. Even to read from Islamic sources is hate, apparently, at the University at Buffalo — unless, of course, one endorses such penalties rather than oppose them.”

Yes, these days, if you expose something murderous or hateful, you are guilty of a worse sin – the sin of judging. And on campuses these days, there is hardly a worse sin you could commit.

I once spotted a comment responding to a YouTube video posted by a 12-year old boy who opposed same-sex marriage based on the Bible. The comment read: “You, just like everyone who is against gay marriage, is a mentally retarded bigot. No exceptions. Now go to hell.”

This is the voice of tolerance, the same voice that drowned out Spencer in Buffalo. And how interesting that “tolerance” reviles a 12-year-old boy who does not support same-sex “marriage” but then defends Islam that calls for a death-penalty for homosexual practice. How interesting that “tolerance” wants to silence Christians who peacefully oppose homosexual activism as well as silence those who draw attention to Islam’s violent opposition to homosexuality. What a laughable contradiction.

But this is no laughing matter. As Spencer noted, “By shutting down any discussion of the motivating ideology of the jihad threat and consigning it all to the realm of ‘hatred’ and ‘bigotry,’ the student mob at the University of Buffalo enables that threat to grow. One day, the Leftists who screamed, heckled, and booed as I tried to speak may very well experience the consequences of their actions, carried out by those with whom they thought they stood in solidarity.”…

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to stand in solidarity with murderers, to stand in solidarity with those who will kill you when they have installed Sharia law — one wonders what has happened in this country, and around the world, to the ability to critically think, ask questions, be asked questions, research, learn, read, study, and come to what in the past would be considered reasonable conclusions.

It seems our ‘thinking’ has devolved to pure emotion: it must derive from an intense guilt, for NOT living in war-torn countries, for NOT adhering to an ideology that murders all who stand in its ways.

Guilt seems to be the overriding emotion at play. We are so guilty, that we deserve to be subjugated by murderers. We have done so many wrongs, to so many people, that there are no limits on the punishment that we deserve.

I swear, these people will thank the one who beheads them when Sharia law is THE law.

there is a deep and pervading sickness in this country, and through the free world. And it hasn’t happened by chance, by accident.

The sickness [of both the Left and Islam/Islam enablers] is sadomasochism. Islam’s emotional subtext is the same as that of Leftist fascism: Dominant/submissive, master/slave, leader/follower, sadism/masochism, master/slave.

Do not worry we will be in a war torn country if we are not allowed to expose the islamics for what they are. We are more people in this country America worry about what bath room to use then people thrown off roof tops to there deaths. Idiots run the show, let idiots explain there actions.

They are worry about Christians not approving there lifestyle the Christians are not killing you, the Christians are not stopping you, the Christians just say you are not going to heaven. If you do not beleave in heaven or hell what is your problem?

Show of hands (to the crowd): How many of you have read the Qur’an? None? Oh…okay. How many of you have actually lived under any degree of sharia in a Muslim majority country? Uh….okay. How many of you can at least quickly rattle off, say the 5 most very basic tenants of Islam? (Here’s a hint: Pray 5 times a day facing Mecca.) Other 4? Nothing?

Okay then….you are all dismissed for being complete and utter ignorant dipshids.

It is sad that Western politicians on the political Left continue to refuse the reality of the true Muslim definition of ‘Islamophobia’.

‘Islamophobia’, n. any comment or discussion of the teachings of the Islamic belief system, Islam’s history, Islam’s related cultural practices, the reality of Sharia Law, the history and nature of Islam’s prophet by any and all non-believers (infidels, kaffirs).

Motion M-103, passed by the Canadian Parliament, is nothing less than an abrogation of the right of free speech and personal choice by surrendering to the demands of a supremacist belief system, Islam, that does not allow for the accommodation of non-believers. M-103 is a betrayal of the democratic principles that our fathers and grandfathers fought and died for in two World Wars.

The ignorance and naivety of Western politicians when dealing with Islam is appalling and does not bode well for the long term survival of Western democratic values, cultural practices, or equality before the law.

Pandering for votes at the expense of our democracy is despicable and presents Islam as a ‘religion of peace’ that is not confirmed by any objective review of that belief system. We deserve better but that is beyond the pale of the present Liberal government.

The following proves that Justin Trudeau has no clue as to the realities of Islam and it’s onslaught against Canadian democratic values and institutions.
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“Canadian Imam contradicts Trudeau: “Islam will never become a part of liberal secularism”
Posted by: CIJnews Staff March 25, 2017
Another senior Muslim Canadian leader disagrees with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau over the question whether Islam is compatible with secular values.
In two separate interviews with CBC, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau maintained that Islam is compatible with Western open and secular democracy like Canada:
· (November 24, 2015): “Canadians are quick to point out that ISIS is wrong, that Islam is not incompatible with the Western secular democracy, a free place like Canada.”
(January 31, 2016): “But on the other hand, we need to make sure that we’re working with communities like the Muslim community for example to demonstrate that Islam is Unlike Trudeau, Mazin AbdulAdhim, a prominent Imam of Iraqi descent in London, Ontario who is affiliated with the radical Islamic global movement of Hizb ut-Tahrir, explains that “Islam cannot and will not ever become a part of liberal secularism.”
According to Mazin AbdulAdhim, nowadays there is a war between two ideologies, secularism and Islam, which will end up with the victory of Islam and the establishment of the Islamic State (Caliphate) which will regain control over the Muslim lands world-wide.
The following are excerpts from Mazin AbdulAdhim’s Facebook post on March 24, 2017:
The Jews and Christians are united with the atheists upon the liberal secular way of life today, and they demand that everyone join them in this way of life of theirs. Islam cannot and will not ever become a part of liberal secularism, no matter what ups and downs Muslims go through, and this has caused the Jews and Christians and atheists to take extreme manipulative measures to force Muslims to comply with their demands. This media pressure is simply a tool being used to force all Muslims to condemn the political and military laws of Islam in general by associating any crimes committed by Muslims with Islam itself (regardless of whether Islam obviously forbids it), to pressure them to submit to the liberal secular system that dominates the globe today and abandon the call for political Islam. Anyone demanding the implementation of the political and military laws of Islam will then be associated with those Muslims who committed those violent crimes, and will be treated as criminals by association… No matter what the manipulative secular elite do, they will fail at this manipulative scheme, and Islam will rise once again in the Muslim lands, and the Ummah [Muslims nation] will unite under a single sincere Islamic leadership; and the Muslim lands – including Africa, the Middle East, the subcontinent, parts of Europe, Central Asia, and parts of Eastern Asia – will be fully restored under complete Muslim control, and there is nothing the lying, fear-mongering scum of the Capitalist elite can do about it.
The following are excerpts from Mazin AbdulAdhim’s Facebook post on March 17, 2017:
It is important to understand that the West is undoubtedly heading towards banning political Islam…We need to understand that this is a struggle between two ideologies, not between countries or leaders or religions. It is a (mostly) silent war between secularism and Islam. Muslims win the moment they establish a true Khilafah [Islamic State or Caliphate], as that will be the end of the Sykes-Picot borders and puppet government control they have had over the Muslim lands for almost 100 years. And as Muslims inch closer to breaking free from the political control of the colonial West, we should expect to see them become more vicious against political Islam, and more friendly towards Muslims who accept secularism and defend it (called “moderates”)…
ICNA Canada’s online publication: “Islam is totally incompatible with western democracy”
The Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) Canada is an Islamic national-wide organization striving “to build an Exemplary Canadian Muslim Community” by “total submission to Him [Allah] and through the propagation of true and universal message of Islam.”
Dr. Iqbal Massod Al-Nadvi, the Amir (President) of ICNA Canada, also serves as the Chairperson of Canadian Council of Imams (Canada’s top Imam).
On its official website ICNA Canada shares with its members, followers and supporters the book “Riyad us Saliheen” (“The Gardens of the Righteous” رياض الصالحين) compiled by Imam Zakaruya Yahya Bin Sharaf An-Nawawi, a Sunni Shafi’ite jurist and hadith scholar who lived in 13th century.
The Gardens of the Righteous (Arabic: Riyadh as-Salihin), is a compilation of verses from the Qur’an and Hadith by Al-Nawawi. It contains a total of 1905 Hadith divided across 372 chapters, many of which are introduced by verses of the Quran.
The book “Riyad us Saliheen” (“The Gardens of the Righteous”) which appears on ICNA Canada site contains modern commentary to the verses from the Qur’an and Hadith.
The following are excerpts from the book which deal with the question whether Islam in compatible with the values of Western democracy.
“[Hadith]: 673. Abu Bakrah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: I heard Messenger of Allah (PBUH) saying, “He who insults the rulers Allah will insult him.”
[At-Tirmidhi].
“Commentary: To affront and degrade the ruler means to disobey him and to by-pass his orders. This impairs his power, honour and dignity. Believers have been told to obey and support rulers for the sake of national interest and welfare, understanding that they desist from committing an overt disbelief and maintain congregation Salat and other duties of religion. The political system of Islam is totally incompatible with western democracy. The concept of government party and the opposition is alien to Islam. All belong to one Ummah with only one goal and pursue the same aims and objects of Islamic guidelines!”http://en.cijnews.com/?p=214633

Trudeau is only there because of the ‘name recognition’ phenomenon (makes no difference whether the name carries positive oe negative conotations as long as it implies star or ‘celeb’) and the small town ‘family compact’ factor that pervades Canadian politics. Hardly anybody actually votes for the prime minister.

People who like attacking the bible flock together. The bible says God knits life together in the womb. Also, the prophecies in the bible about Jesus would not be valid if the Jews were not in Israel since they say they have to be there at some point. I think this is why people who support abortion connect with those who attack the Jews. After reading the extremist exaggerations in the quran about the Jews, I am glad Israel exists because I like seeing the Jews get the best of those who exaggerate against them.

You are entitled to believe in the New Testament and your Messiah, but you obviously do not have a true understanding of Judaism and the Old Testament. The life of the Mother is tantamount and if that is in any way endangered, then abortion is a valid option. “Life” can be considered under varied circumstances. At least you recognize the self-serving lies about the Jews that Muhammad has incorporated into the fabric of the Quran. We shall prevail over the evil of Islam with the might of Hashem and strength of Israel.

I have heard a leader of Israel proclaim the most supportive people of Israel are pro-life evangelicals. You should follow suit….also, doctors thought Tim Tebow should be killed when he was in the womb. Now he is so big and strong I bet he could hold you down and circumcise you if he felt like it.

You, mean, those folks from the deserts of Western Asia and northern Africa have outsmarted American liberals, whom everyone knows to be the most intelligent, evolved, clear-headed, and knowledgeable folks ever to cough up phlegm? [sarc].

Still, the hubris of American liberals regarding their own intelligence never ceases to amaze me; and, yes, I do believe the Muslims are very successful in using the liberals’ own mindset to take advantage of them. At the very least it is like when I was in Hangzhou and I saw they listed a higher price for admission to the Yue Fei Temple in English than they did in Chinese (I raised Hell with them, in Chinese, and got in for local price).

It is actually the opposite. Liberals did not invent jihad, but they have spent a lot of money (usually your tax dollars) over the last 40 years to stir up jihad and bring it to the west. Liberals are mostly pawns of the rich. A violent society needs more police and laws which benefit the rich who typically call the political shots.

Yes, the liberal mainstream has been gulled by Islam. The Left has bought into the Muslim concept of victimization without realizing it is the Left who are the victims!

It is sad that Western politicians on the political Left continue to refuse the reality of the true Muslim definition of ‘Islamophobia’.

‘Islamophobia’, n. any comment or discussion of the teachings of the Islamic belief system, Islam’s history, Islam’s related cultural practices, the reality of Sharia Law, the history and nature of Islam’s prophet by any and all non-believers (infidels, kaffirs).

Motion M-103, passed by the Canadian Parliament, is nothing less than an abrogation of the right of free speech and personal choice by surrendering to the demands of a supremacist belief system, Islam, that does not allow for the accommodation of non-believers. M-103 is a betrayal of the democratic principles that our fathers and grandfathers fought and died for in two World Wars.

The ignorance and naivety of Western politicians when dealing with Islam is appalling and does not bode well for the long term survival of Western democratic values, cultural practices, or equality before the law.

Pandering for votes at the expense of our democracy is despicable and presents Islam as a ‘religion of peace’ that is not confirmed by any objective review of that belief system. We deserve better but that is beyond the pale of the present Liberal government.

The following proves that Justin Trudeau has no clue as to the realities of Islam and it’s onslaught against Canadian democratic values and institutions.
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“Canadian Imam contradicts Trudeau: “Islam will never become a part of liberal secularism”
Posted by: CIJnews Staff March 25, 2017

“Why do so many liberals praise a religion that, at its root, is quite conservative, if not fundamentalist? Why do they defend a faith that would not defend them? Worse still, why do they defend a faith that, in some cases, would do violence to them?”

Liberals are obsessed with skin color and many Muslims are the right (non-white) color. Ergo, whatever they do is wonderful. And any criticism of them is evil and “racist”. It, of course, doesn’t entirely answer “why”, but it’s a significant component to understanding what is otherwise a seemingly impossible, simultaneous contradiction in values.

Other important considerations have to do with “the enemy of my enemy” dynamic, conscious and subconscious self-hatred, and an even more complex subconscious dynamic whereby liberals strive for signaled moral superiority by aligning themselves with and advocating for supposedly/nominally “oppressed” — whatever their views or behavior.

In short, it has a lot to do with psychology and little to do with rationality. Elementary formal reasoning and dialectics shows it to be absurd… UNTIL the above and other considerations are added. The above and other considerations offer an elegant explanation tying up what are otherwise contradictory and disparate positions and attitudes. They are not so much pro-Islam as they are anti-x,y, and z.

Agree with Michael Brown: “there is something deeper that unites these groups”.

That something that unites Islam and the Left is collective narcissism and SADOMASOCHISM.

Each side feels a need to glory in its own supremacy and glory in PAIN and SUFFERING it is able to inflict on DESIGNATED VICTIMS. They have chosen the same victims: European Christians.

Demonization of the DESIGNATED VICTIM comes before the TORTURE CHAMBER activities.

Islam and the Left are cooperating in the process of DEMONIZING Western Christians. Leftists Christian clergy are also virtue-signalling by showing their willingness to accept the muzzle, handcuffs and shackles that are being prepared by the Islamists and Leftists for them.

The way I see it, jihadists are taking advantage of people who want peace. They prey on collective guilt.

Sadly, Europe and America are being taught that their culture–which has done slavery and colonization in the past–should be extra tolerant to make up for it (I DON’T agree with that at all, just pointing out part of the problem.)

But many non-western cultures have committed atrocities–Rwanda’s genocide, the way Chinese colonists enslaved tribes in what is now southern China, Chile’s government working with Colonia la Dignidad (a prison camp/religious commune).

All cultures have made mistakes, and westerners today shouldn’t be taught to be ashamed of their culture any more than anyone in Rwanda or China or Chile would be.

Americans and Europeans have a right to speak up when atrocities are committed against them; in this case, we have as much right to speak against jihadists killing us as any other country does against atrocities done to them. It’s not racist or Islamophobic to worry about the way things are going.

I think many liberals can come around to this way of thinking too, they just need people to talk civilly and explain it–I know it’s hard to be civil sometimes, but it’s going to get us farther and open their minds better than arguing and name-calling.

I was thinking about why on earth leftists ( and gays and feminists ) would want any truck w/ Islam , but there are certain areas where you can see why they come together (and Nazis too ) They are all enemies of the Judeo – Christian heritage. If you look at the ten commandments – “honor thy father…..,”; communism didn’t care about stable families, the State will take care of you, (Hitler only wanted families that would glorify” das Vaterland”) Islam doesn’t honor parents by allowing polygamy and sex- slavery and child marriages. Women are just baby makers for allah. “thou shalt not steal,” Communism = forced redistribution of wealth, as opposed to true charity. Islam says its OK to steal from the “kafir.” Obviously Hitler’s Germany stole alot from the Jews. “Thou shalt not murder”, this one’s a no -brainer, And a biggie “thou shalt not bear false witness”……How many people were killed under these systems ( AND will be ) just because of what they say orsaid because of rat-finks. Now in someplaces people are punished for a Facebook post! All three of these groups have persecuted Christians and Jews and still it continues.
Dear Mr. Spencer I hope you are all well now and will continue fighting the good fight.

“…and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. For this reason God will send upon them a powerful delusion so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.” Apostle Paul, about 60 AD.
This is happening right now. Many unbelievers blame God for all the ills of the world, even though man is responsible for his own actions. You wonder why people believe Muslim propaganda? Any sane person avoid Islam like the plague. At least there is a cure for the plague! Gays against Islamophobia makes as much sense as Jews for Hitler. God is not mocked. His patience has been astonishing but the time of reckoning will come.

“… Why do so many liberals praise a religion that, at its root, is quite conservative, if not fundamentalist? Why do they defend a faith that would not defend them? Worse still, why do they defend a faith that, in some cases, would do violence to them?..”

Because ‘the enemies enemy is their friend’. Contemporary Islams strident Anti Civilisational Stance and it’s Preparedness to Employ Violence are seen as characteristics of a Natural and Determined Political Allie.

I have noticed that “islamophobia” doesn’t recurr that often anymore in german langauge media and has given way to “critics of islam”. Which is a pity as it take a bit more of an effort the put them into the islamophile basket. I have noticed that many “left” acquaintances and friends aren’t defending islam as vocally as they would have 10 years ago.

We won’t see any liberal (i.e. LEFTIST) LARGE banners that state “NO TO ISLAMOREALISM” and we won’t see any muslim (lowercase be upon them) groups with “NO TO ISLAMOREALISM” banners either – well maybe by the less than 1% – i.e. a Tiny Minority ™ are opposed to islamorealism, MAYBE.

There’s nothing mysterious about what’s going on.
The LEFT hates White Western Civilization.
They intend to destroy the power of the West, but they can’t do it directly, they can’t even do it themselves, so they bring in their useful idiot Muslim wrecking crew, to create chaos and anarchy and bring down Western governments, at that point the Muslims will be discarded, the Leftist Communist Globalists will take over and easily subjugate the idiot Muslims.

Stalin used this technique over and over, if he thought someone was a problem for him, he’d send out an execution squad to eliminate his thousands of enemies. When their work was done, he’d send out a smaller execution squad to execute the executioners. Eventually there was no one left. No enemies, no executioners, no evidence, no problem.

What’s a problem for us are people who take anything the Left says at face value, who dignify anything the Left says with a presumption of sincerity. The Left really is the serpent in the garden, they are deceivers.

The author says “Yes, these days, if you expose something murderous or hateful, you are guilty of a worse sin – the sin of judging.” However the left has no problem judging Robert Spencer or any conservatives for that matter

The Left-Islam “love affair” is entirely political, against the common enemy, Western Conservatives.

There has never been a political movement which was not willing to sacrifice its own ideology to acquire allies when faced with defeat.

During the 30 Years War, Protestant rebels courted a Turkish alliance against Catholic Imperial forces. Protestant clergy began propagating the idea that Islam was closer to true Christianity than Catholicism.

After the Battle of Stalingrad, National Socialist racial policy was ignored in order to replace profligate “Aryan” losses with Slavs, Muslim Bosniacs, or anyone else willing to fight Bolshevism. By the end of WW2, about 1/3 of German forces were racially unacceptable by standing regulations. The New European Order went from simply acquiring land for an expanded Reich to a Federal system of nation states under German hegemony, not identical but similar to the European Union. Strangely, Axis forces ended up as multi-cultural as the Allied, if not more so, simply due to casualties.

Democrats allied with Soviet operatives against Republicans during the McCarthy Era. Project Vernona confirmed that, in fact, McCarthy erred on the side of not being aggressive enough in rooting Communists out of the Federal gov’t.

Even Israel is a case in point. The Jewish-Christian religious contention over the nature of Christ goes way back and was a major political issue given the Divine Right monarchies. But now, we have “Judeo-Christian” culture which is a recent development and not at all how either side saw it for all the centuries Western civilization developed since the Roman Emperor Constantine.

Next time this happens record the whole thing and put it on youtube. Then maybe someone will edit it and when you read about the koran and gays they will insert a picture of Muslims attacking gays. The whole thing could be edited to show what idiots the people are who shout you down.

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