Im becoming more certain that Carr is the qb next year. If you look around the league, this is a bad offseason for trying to trade a qb to the NFC.

The giants and the Bucs might be the only two teams that would be interested in Carr this offseason in the NFC. all the potential suitors are in the AFC. I just don't see them trading Carr to an AFC team.

Corleone wrote Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:47 am:That QB sneak looked like Carr was riding an invisible stationary bike. Does he not know that he has to physically push himself forward? My god the man has transformed into a giant vagina.

Corleone wrote Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:47 am:That QB sneak looked like Carr was riding an invisible stationary bike. Does he not know that he has to physically push himself forward? My god the man has transformed into a giant vagina.

Corleone wrote Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:47 am:That QB sneak looked like Carr was riding an invisible stationary bike. Does he not know that he has to physically push himself forward? My god the man has transformed into a giant vagina.

heavyD wrote Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:23 am:It’s basically 2012 all over again except Dennis Allen wasn’t on a ten year $100 million contract. There’s some irony that Mark Davis had high expectations and was critical of Allen yet he’s the architect of the current situation where a superior roster to Allen’s is at risk of winning less games.

DaRayyyduzzz wrote Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:33 am:Wait, you are using SUPERIOR with this group of misfits? We have minimal talent and most of that talent is playing well below their abilities. I see the 10 years as acknowledging this team is shyt and needs to be blown up, which will take several years to re mold. The fluke that was 2016 just gave us unwarranted expectations. Our talent pool is very thin.

We had a guy that is in the group for DPOY, a good o-line, above average WRs and TE, some pieces to work with in the secondary. QB was the million dollar question, but Gruden has done nothing with him. He would have had McGloin playing exactly the same way. I'd say Gruden inherited a roster a bit under .500. He has turned us into an expansion team because he couldn't, want to, build a team around guys that didn't exactly fit his parameters. Good luck with that going forward.

getovahit wrote Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:40 am:Im becoming more certain that Carr is the qb next year. If you look around the league, this is a bad offseason for trying to trade a qb to the NFC.

The giants and the Bucs might be the only two teams that would be interested in Carr this offseason in the NFC. all the potential suitors are in the AFC. I just don't see them trading Carr to an AFC team.

I can see several paths.

1. We keep Carr. I think Gruden told Mark he can fix Carr, and Mark will want Carr here for at least another year. If we do go this way, a viable alternative is waiting if Carr fails. It may be AJ, but I'd guess another vet.

2. We cut Carr. Could be he is a dumpster rest of the way, and like everybody not his own, Gruden wants him gone.

3. We trade Carr. I find this unlikely, but possible. However, there won't be many suitors, and anyone with brains would know that if we are willing to trade him, we would be willing to cut him, and they could then get him without the big salary and for no pick.

kinz wrote Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:07 am:We had a guy that is in the group for DPOY, a good o-line, above average WRs and TE, some pieces to work with in the secondary. QB was the million dollar question, but Gruden has done nothing with him. He would have had McGloin playing exactly the same way. I'd say Gruden inherited a roster a bit under .500. He has turned us into an expansion team because he couldn't, want to, build a team around guys that didn't exactly fit his parameters. Good luck with that going forward.

Based on what? He's the coach, not the QB. The QB has to decide to get over himself and do what is asked of him.

That good O line is currently ranked pretty much dead last in the league. Those above average WR's led the league in drops. People still drinking off the 2016 kool aid where most every bounce went our way and Carr played out of his mind. Carr got paid and disappeared. The team needed to be blown up and that's whats happening. It aint pretty but it takes several years and several good drafts to happen. Remains to be seen if it gets pulled off but we were/are going nowhere as it is.

DaRayyyduzzz wrote Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:34 am:That good O line is currently ranked pretty much dead last in the league. Those above average WR's led the league in drops. People still drinking off the 2016 kool aid where most every bounce went our way and Carr played out of his mind. Carr got paid and disappeared. The team needed to be blown up and that's whats happening. It aint pretty but it takes several years and several good drafts to happen. Remains to be seen if it gets pulled off but we were/are going nowhere as it is.

But being blown up vs. getting rid of every single quality player including young players on rookie contracts is plain stupid.