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I think it helped that you had this large, majestic craft in the Enterprise D and to see it fire on something just made it look even cooler. And then you had the futuristic refit from 'All Good Things', which in itself was an amazing hour and a half of science fiction, made all the better by hearing the lines "There's another ship decloaking. It's the Enterprise!" "We'll get their attention" *Blows up a battleship so hard it FLIES THROUGH WHERE IT WAS BECAUSE NO DEBRIS WAS LEFT*

I think one of the top YouTube comments highlights it best:

Riker: "I'll see if I can get the Klingons' attention. Helmsman, Riker Maneuver Alpha...y'know, a wicked upward spiral rollover 720 McTwist thingy. Weapons officer, arm forward murdercannon bank, set power to 'Rip Several New Assholes', and fire﻿ at will."

I think Robot Wars was a Friday? Can't believe I missed that in the previous posts. Lives on through the spirit of Spaced though. Anyhow, I agree with a lot of what you said regarding shaping TV preferences. That slot had a surprisingly great amount of high quality variety and I don't think I'd have gotten into Dr. Who if it weren't for that slot, or sci-fi in general for a long time and so on. It really was a time to look forward to.

I actually have this silly theory that Star Trek and Star Wars are sort of a beginning's guide to sci-fi. They show the core elements of what you can do with a completely different setting, with a variety of un/subtle concepts and items that can get you thinking. I look back at both of them now and find them a little hard to swallow, but I do know that TNG will forever stay with me. Maybe there's something akin to having 'a first Doctor' with Dr. Who that there is with Star Trek?

Well thats probably why there are still wars fought over who was the best captain because people either grew up with Kirk and the original series, Picard with TNG, or Sisko with DS9 and for some people Janeway with Voyager.

About to watch the final of three episodes of the German series Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter (tonight, 20:15 ZDF), a mini-series about young people who end up involved in various ways in the disastrous World War II. Quite interesting, especially since it's been followed by talk shows in which historians, artists, 'old & young people' etc. discuss the series and the wider context. If you speak German it's well worth a look!

"He has anointed me to bring good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim release to
the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to let the oppressed go free". ~ Luke 4:18

I think it helped that you had this large, majestic craft in the Enterprise D and to see it fire on something just made it look even cooler. And then you had the futuristic refit from 'All Good Things', which in itself was an amazing hour and a half of science fiction, made all the better by hearing the lines "There's another ship decloaking. It's the Enterprise!" "We'll get their attention" *Blows up a battleship so hard it FLIES THROUGH WHERE IT WAS BECAUSE NO DEBRIS WAS LEFT*

I'm not sure I ever saw that episode, from memory I seem to recall an episode with the Enterprise C that had what I thought was an awesome battle at the time, but looking at the bits I could find on youtube its somewhat underwhelming.

I do also remember one truly awesome episode of DS9 where the Klingons attacked. Still doesn't quite match up to some of the Babylon 5 episodes though - man those quad cannon defense guns looked awesome, as did the Earth Alliance cruisers.

Originally Posted by The JG Man

I think Robot Wars was a Friday? Can't believe I missed that in the previous posts. Lives on through the spirit of Spaced though. Anyhow, I agree with a lot of what you said regarding shaping TV preferences. That slot had a surprisingly great amount of high quality variety and I don't think I'd have gotten into Dr. Who if it weren't for that slot, or sci-fi in general for a long time and so on. It really was a time to look forward to.

War Bastard vs Private Iron. Brilliant. Oh how I wish Spaced had managed a few more series'

Originally Posted by The JG Man

I actually have this silly theory that Star Trek and Star Wars are sort of a beginning's guide to sci-fi. They show the core elements of what you can do with a completely different setting, with a variety of un/subtle concepts and items that can get you thinking. I look back at both of them now and find them a little hard to swallow, but I do know that TNG will forever stay with me. Maybe there's something akin to having 'a first Doctor' with Dr. Who that there is with Star Trek?

Yeah I think thats pretty accurate, not sure its anything specific in them that acts as an introduction other than the fact they've simply entered the public consciousness more so than others and as a result people feel more prepared to give them a chance to see what the fuss is about

Hah, I'd completely forgotten about ref bot. Just looking back at some of the robots now there's so much I'd forgotten. I remember Razor as the one that always looked like it should be awesome but often fell to reliability problems. Hynodisc I do remember clearly - its difficult to forget something able to shred sheet metal! Am I right in recalling one called Cassius Clay or something that was the first one able to right itself? That was pretty awesome

Going to be not all that outrageous and say: The Following, Cosmos, Hawaii Five 0, Doctor Who, Game of Thrones, Grimm, Once Upon a Time, Touch, Hogan's Heroes, Last Man Standing (US sitcom), Numb3rs...

I'm not sure I ever saw that episode, from memory I seem to recall an episode with the Enterprise C that had what I thought was an awesome battle at the time, but looking at the bits I could find on youtube its somewhat underwhelming.

'Yesterday's Enterprise' is the one you're thinking of. I dunno, the battle there was cool. Enterprise against three ships, holding the line. Whatever, that means you haven't seen the TNG finale, "All Good Things"??? My god, man. Before I continue, I want to re-emphasise that I've fallen out of much interest with ST, with the occasional watch of an episode of TNG if my boredom and its happening to be on aligns. Saying that, All Good Things is one of the very best things that has come from the Star Trek universe. An absolutely solid and incredible sci-fi story (the episode actually got awarded, and then went on to win, a Hugo Award. The only other episode of TNG to get that was the equally wonderful "The Inner Light") that's enhanced by its wonderful use of characters and some sterling acting by Patrick Stewart. Also, kick-ass Enterprise D.

It's one of those episodes of any show that if you see is on you go "Oh man, I totally have to watch that! Screw whatever else I need to do!" I strongly recommend you go and watch it.

I remember Razor as the one that always looked like it should be awesome but often fell to reliability problems. Hynodisc I do remember clearly - its difficult to forget something able to shred sheet metal! Am I right in recalling one called Cassius Clay or something that was the first one able to right itself? That was pretty awesome

That all sounds right. I do remember when Razor eventually was given a self-righting mechanism too, making it even cooler. It looked like talons that would emerge from the main crushing arm. It was a shame too when Hypnodisc eventually got to the final, or semi-final or whatever and then got defeated by a mere flip. Blergh. I actually think the series lost its punch because the flair of interesting weapons and design choices went out the window to "NEED A BIGGER FLIPPER". Ah well. Actually, I seem to recall that Cassius Clay, not only being the first one to flip itself back up, but actually did it while inside The Pit. I think they were counted as already out, but that was definitely awesome.

I seem to recall that Cassius Clay, not only being the first one to flip itself back up, but actually did it while inside The Pit. I think they were counted as already out, but that was definitely awesome.

I think you may be right . . . to the internet!

After googling it, it seems we remembered wrong - apparently it was capable of the feat but never did it on screen as it pitted itself at the wrong angle for it's pneumatic spike to bounce it out.

I'm positive I saw one bot do that, but never mind! Gosh, I'm actually in a mood now for a bit of TNG. At its best, it really is good television, but so much of the show was so middling and formulaic. You could tell when an episode would go through the motions and you'd be able to time it to the minute of when a problem would occur, when they would work out what the problem is, try and fail their first attempt, only to come up with a quick solution that goes on to work. Whilst some of the good episodes did follow this, it tended to be the ones that broke from this that were the best.

(I feel obliged to say there was a pretty decent Star Trek game called Bridge Commander. Worth a check out!)

Yeah I would probably say the best season of Sta Trek is 4 or 5 it had very lovely episodes and did definitely stepped up on the science fiction stories it was telling. The weakest one I think was the last sure there was one or two episodes were good and the finale was amazing such a great ending but for the most part I don't think the writers were doing anything the episodes were very generic and forgettable and very boring. The main characters were very good on that show.

In fact I think it is characters that seem to make a show for me even though in the past I thought it was the crazy science fiction stories.

Watched latest episode of Walking Dead and it was so boring for christ sake it was painful to watch so i skipped through episode.. Otherwise Californacion season 6,i don't like how Hank Moody always whine how he loves to be with Karen but on other hand he is always cheating on her,stop doing that you stupid moron,its like he is retarded OOO LOOOK DEEM BOBIEES :3 MUST TOUCH THEM GRGRRGR

That all sounds right. I do remember when Razor eventually was given a self-righting mechanism too, making it even cooler. It looked like talons that would emerge from the main crushing arm. It was a shame too when Hypnodisc eventually got to the final, or semi-final or whatever and then got defeated by a mere flip. Blergh. I actually think the series lost its punch because the flair of interesting weapons and design choices went out the window to "NEED A BIGGER FLIPPER".

Yeah, that sucked. One of my favourite robots could split into two, I think it was called Gemini.

Edit: Just saw the latest Walking Dead episode and laughed.

I've always felt damaged yet sympathetic Governor and evil psychopathic Governor were two completely different jarring characters, or at least in the way they're portrayed. This episode sees the Governor chasing Andrea into a house of horrors. He's whistling cheerful tunes, scraping his shovel against the wall to announce his coming like he's Freddy Krugar or something, and generally having a grand ole time. I know they were going for a chilling atmosphere but that intention just made it funnier.

Carnivale,show about cirkus in 1934,with premise of good versus evil. Watched six episodes so far and yet i have to see some unnatural shit happening lol,but people on the internet said good words about the show so i'm sticking with it.

Naked and Marooned with Ed Stafford. Ed is dumped on a tropical island with naught but his tackle. He must survive for 60 days. Great viewing. The program, not his tackle. Discovery channel, Thursdays at 9.

10 char.....

Why yes you're right I'm deliciously evil
Tradition is the tyranny of dead men
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Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes....The Conclave beckons ... PM for details

I mostly like to see industrial talk shows regarding to my intrest you know industrial shows provide us a hundred new ways to find business jobs marketing tips etc. On the other end I really like the show Cold Case. Kathryn Morris has a cat who is missing one eye and another that is missing a leg. I like to see this shows.

Man I miss Robot Wars. There was some really great designs on that, Razer and Gemini where probably two of my favourites. There was also one, I can't remember it's name that went against the trend of "lets give it a flipper to right itself" and just had it's body so slim the wheels came out on both sides.

Then you had those "what where you thinking" ones. Like the one that walked on six legs and was so incredible top heavy that it just got pushed over and GG. And my personal favourite wtf robot was the one that was covered in red and black flammable cloth.

"Halo is designed to make the player think "I look like that, I am macho sitting in my undies with my xbox""