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They would still be under the control go the holder of the copyright. Whether it is for-profit, non-profit, or whatever, the copyright holder has the legal authority to control any reproduction (with some limited exceptions, which would almost never include anything more than small excerpts).

True, I should have been clearer. Given how easy (for the most part) it is to find these things hosted, I would be surprised to find that these engine mfg pursue those who publish just for knowledge. After all, these manuals facilitate parts purchases, if not labor sales. I'd be surprised if the engine mfg think there's enough in it if the repros aren't up for sale. I'd also posit that the worst that would happen is a nasty letter requesting that the thread/page be pulled.

I did, after thought, go and look at my saildrive manual pdf. I don't see any copyright info on it at all.(?)

12-15-2014 08:52 PM

Puddin'_Tain

Re: Sailnet Suggestion Box

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Originally Posted by Multihullgirl

No, they're not. Yes, they are charged for.

Copyright is usually reserved for a 'for-profit' pursuit. I am not, of course, talking about charging for the service, this is information freely shared...

They would still be under the control go the holder of the copyright. Whether it is for-profit, non-profit, or whatever, the copyright holder has the legal authority to control any reproduction (with some limited exceptions, which would almost never include anything more than small excerpts).

12-15-2014 02:35 PM

Multihullgirl

Re: Sailnet Suggestion Box

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Originally Posted by DRFerron

If I remember correctly from working on cars with my dad, you have to pay for workshop manuals (also referred to as service manuals). They aren't the same as the instruction manual that comes in the box and that most manufacturers already have online.

No, they're not. Yes, they are charged for.

Copyright is usually reserved for a 'for-profit' pursuit. I am not, of course, talking about charging for the service, this is information freely shared.

I have also seen threads at various fora with linx to downloadable shop manuals, but as I said, the problem with that is that the linx grow old or aren't maintained.

12-15-2014 01:52 PM

DRFerron

Re: Sailnet Suggestion Box

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Originally Posted by VallelyJ

Apparently I was, DRFarron. Thanks.
Still totally counter-intuitive, I think. I guess you're supposed to figure out that you're supposed to copy the text under the little TV commercial into the box. Might as well just close the search feature to people not logged in, if it's a source of problems.

This is the first we've heard about it. I'm pretty sure that it isn't a widespread issue.

I think by now the captcha boxes are well known and they are necessary to help keep out bots. Considering the amount of human spammers who register, I'm not going to recommend getting rid of it.

12-15-2014 01:38 PM

VallelyJ

Re: Sailnet Suggestion Box

Apparently I was, DRFarron. Thanks.
Still totally counter-intuitive, I think. I guess you're supposed to figure out that you're supposed to copy the text under the little TV commercial into the box. Might as well just close the search feature to people not logged in, if it's a source of problems.

12-15-2014 09:35 AM

DRFerron

Re: Sailnet Suggestion Box

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Originally Posted by Dpip4x4

can you add a section in the gear and maintenance just for "Sails" or a thread all by its self. It is the most important piece of equipment we have on the boat!!

After discussion, this is not something we're going to implement at this time.

12-15-2014 09:34 AM

DRFerron

Re: Sailnet Suggestion Box

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Originally Posted by VallelyJ

What the hell is the new human verification thing all about on the search page???? It makes no sense. What is "Swiffer effect" supposed to mean to anybody?
Go back to the old number/letter graphic.
John V.

Are you trying to search without being logged in? I used the search function and don''t see what you see.

12-15-2014 09:34 AM

DRFerron

Re: Sailnet Suggestion Box

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Originally Posted by Multihullgirl

Would it be possible to sponsor a reference library of workshop manuals? People could upload PDF of their manuals. To police it, maybe only allow people with x number of posts or z reputation, whatever. Have a file size limit (PDFs are resizeable)

Links are fine, but they die. If you carry the library, then they'll be here as long as this site is

I started a discussion with the other mods.

If I remember correctly from working on cars with my dad, you have to pay for workshop manuals (also referred to as service manuals). They aren't the same as the instruction manual that comes in the box and that most manufacturers already have online.

If we're thinking of the same workshop manual, I think we'd be violating copyright. If you're talking about the manufacturer's instructions, I'm not sure we could provide a better service than Google.

Anyway, we're discussing it.

12-15-2014 08:39 AM

Multihullgirl

Re: Sailnet Suggestion Box

Would it be possible to sponsor a reference library of workshop manuals? People could upload PDF of their manuals. To police it, maybe only allow people with x number of posts or z reputation, whatever. Have a file size limit (PDFs are resizeable)

Links are fine, but they die. If you carry the library, then they'll be here as long as this site is

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