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Plans for KFC and Costa at Rushington Roundabout in Totton expected to be approved

CONTROVERSIAL plans for a fast food centre in a Hampshire town look set to be approved next week after a two-year battle.

Council chiefs are being urged approve the latest application to build restaurants and drive-thru facilities for KFC and Costa Coffee beside the busy Rushington roundabout at Totton.

Two previous proposals to transform the site were withdrawn after sparking a huge number of protests - despite the promise of 65 jobs.

Now the applicants, Gentian Development (Totton) Ltd, have tried to overcome the objections by deleting a hot food take-away from the scheme.

But the proposed development is still facing opposition from Rushington residents, many of whom fear it will create extra traffic problems on the roundabout.

Totton and Eling Town Council has also lodged an objection, raising fears over pedestrian safety, “inadequate” parking and the prospect of litter polluting the area.

The scheme, which includes a convenience store, is due to be debated by the district council's planning and development control committee next Wednesday.

The application has sparked 60 letters of objection on top of the 153 generated by the earlier plans.

As reported by the Daily Echo, Hounsdown School has joined the protest campaign on the grounds that many of its pupils walk past the site.

Totton town and district councillor David Harrison said the scheme would cause unacceptable traffic hazards.

“The western approach to the roundabout along the A35 is already very busy and fast moving. It's obvious to me that this is a dangerous proposal that will give rise to frequent and serious accidents,” he said.

But highway bosses at Hampshire County Council have raised no objection, claiming the proposed development will cause only a “relatively small” increase in traffic.

A report to committee members says: “Both the drive-through restaurants and the local retail convenience store would be acceptable.

“The proposal would have an acceptable impact on highway safety and would be of acceptable design quality.

“Concerns have been raised about litter. While these concerns are entirely understandable, litter is ultimately a site management issue and is something individual operators would be expected to control.”

The report says planning officers should be authorised to approve the scheme, subject to the completion of legal agreements by July 31.

Comments

befriendly
10:00am Sat 7 Jun 14

Can't wait for the traffic chaos caused by cars leaving proposed site try to cut across three lanes so they can get back to Totton. Then there's the pedestrians crossing the road. I won't be using any of it as I tried kfc once and I refuse to be ripped of by the others prices as they avoid paying decent wages and avoid paying tax on their inflated profits.

Can't wait for the traffic chaos caused by cars leaving proposed site try to cut across three lanes so they can get back to Totton. Then there's the pedestrians crossing the road. I won't be using any of it as I tried kfc once and I refuse to be ripped of by the others prices as they avoid paying decent wages and avoid paying tax on their inflated profits.befriendly

Can't wait for the traffic chaos caused by cars leaving proposed site try to cut across three lanes so they can get back to Totton. Then there's the pedestrians crossing the road. I won't be using any of it as I tried kfc once and I refuse to be ripped of by the others prices as they avoid paying decent wages and avoid paying tax on their inflated profits.

Score: 9

Helmeto
6:35am Sat 7 Jun 14

KFC, McDonalds, Costa, Tesco & all that lot are like a disease to towns & only offer miserable low paid zero hour contracted jobs in souless prefabricated sheds where the sheeple get their cholesterol/Bad caffine fix.

They bring no community value (Costa make a half hearted attempt by putting up a 'community noticeboard' tucked away near the toilets) and as most are protesting, traffic, litter, late night noise. Don't get me wrong, I love a good takeaway but would every time give my money to a local independent place.

Good luck to the protestors, end this virus.

KFC, McDonalds, Costa, Tesco & all that lot are like a disease to towns & only offer miserable low paid zero hour contracted jobs in souless prefabricated sheds where the sheeple get their cholesterol/Bad caffine fix.
They bring no community value (Costa make a half hearted attempt by putting up a 'community noticeboard' tucked away near the toilets) and as most are protesting, traffic, litter, late night noise. Don't get me wrong, I love a good takeaway but would every time give my money to a local independent place.
Good luck to the protestors, end this virus.Helmeto

KFC, McDonalds, Costa, Tesco & all that lot are like a disease to towns & only offer miserable low paid zero hour contracted jobs in souless prefabricated sheds where the sheeple get their cholesterol/Bad caffine fix.

They bring no community value (Costa make a half hearted attempt by putting up a 'community noticeboard' tucked away near the toilets) and as most are protesting, traffic, litter, late night noise. Don't get me wrong, I love a good takeaway but would every time give my money to a local independent place.

Good luck to the protestors, end this virus.

Score: 30

News Fanatic
9:22am Sat 7 Jun 14

Just the thing we need to help combat the obesity epidemic...or not.

Just the thing we need to help combat the obesity epidemic...or not.News Fanatic

Just the thing we need to help combat the obesity epidemic...or not.

Score: 12

Idontusuallycomplain
3:39pm Sat 7 Jun 14

It is clear that residents do not want this additional junk food outlet and Totton is already overrun with such places. Why is it then that any council should insist on approving such an application if the people do not want or need it, if such approval is granted. Hopefully common sense will prevail. As for road safety, to negotiate Rushington roundabout ordinarily is very hazardous with the idiots approaching from the Southampton direction cutting across lanes at the last minute to go off towards Marchwood and the HGV's that come on to the roundabout far too fast and in some cases tip over. If you add all the boy racers coming out of the junk food establishment into the mix, it is inevitable a tragedy is just around the corner.

It is clear that residents do not want this additional junk food outlet and Totton is already overrun with such places. Why is it then that any council should insist on approving such an application if the people do not want or need it, if such approval is granted. Hopefully common sense will prevail. As for road safety, to negotiate Rushington roundabout ordinarily is very hazardous with the idiots approaching from the Southampton direction cutting across lanes at the last minute to go off towards Marchwood and the HGV's that come on to the roundabout far too fast and in some cases tip over. If you add all the boy racers coming out of the junk food establishment into the mix, it is inevitable a tragedy is just around the corner.Idontusuallycomplain

It is clear that residents do not want this additional junk food outlet and Totton is already overrun with such places. Why is it then that any council should insist on approving such an application if the people do not want or need it, if such approval is granted. Hopefully common sense will prevail. As for road safety, to negotiate Rushington roundabout ordinarily is very hazardous with the idiots approaching from the Southampton direction cutting across lanes at the last minute to go off towards Marchwood and the HGV's that come on to the roundabout far too fast and in some cases tip over. If you add all the boy racers coming out of the junk food establishment into the mix, it is inevitable a tragedy is just around the corner.

Score: 3

Writers Cramp
11:24am Sat 7 Jun 14

OK - Lets look logically. The Exit to the site will mean traffic returning to Southampton will have to cross 3 lanes as well as a bus lane exit just a few metres earlier. The Entrance - around the corner towards the Waterside, already sees 2 lanes merging to one, right where the queue will form to turn left into the planned development. In addition - Pupils from Hounsdown School already have to overcome speeding traffic from the roundabout as they go to and from school. It does not take a rocket scientist to work out that we are in for trouble, accidents, queues and I suspect DEATH ON A ROAD. Perhaps our Highways people who have approved this are all therefore rocket scientists - and have no logic. Trouble is when death occurs, they will be gone, moved on. When death occurs, who will be bold and humble enough to face the victims family to apologise for their gross error of judgement, their incompetence. No one will, for they will all protect each other's backs. They will all however live with a victims blood on their hands. Profit in place of life.

OK - Lets look logically. The Exit to the site will mean traffic returning to Southampton will have to cross 3 lanes as well as a bus lane exit just a few metres earlier. The Entrance - around the corner towards the Waterside, already sees 2 lanes merging to one, right where the queue will form to turn left into the planned development. In addition - Pupils from Hounsdown School already have to overcome speeding traffic from the roundabout as they go to and from school. It does not take a rocket scientist to work out that we are in for trouble, accidents, queues and I suspect DEATH ON A ROAD. Perhaps our Highways people who have approved this are all therefore rocket scientists - and have no logic. Trouble is when death occurs, they will be gone, moved on. When death occurs, who will be bold and humble enough to face the victims family to apologise for their gross error of judgement, their incompetence. No one will, for they will all protect each other's backs. They will all however live with a victims blood on their hands. Profit in place of life.Writers Cramp

OK - Lets look logically. The Exit to the site will mean traffic returning to Southampton will have to cross 3 lanes as well as a bus lane exit just a few metres earlier. The Entrance - around the corner towards the Waterside, already sees 2 lanes merging to one, right where the queue will form to turn left into the planned development. In addition - Pupils from Hounsdown School already have to overcome speeding traffic from the roundabout as they go to and from school. It does not take a rocket scientist to work out that we are in for trouble, accidents, queues and I suspect DEATH ON A ROAD. Perhaps our Highways people who have approved this are all therefore rocket scientists - and have no logic. Trouble is when death occurs, they will be gone, moved on. When death occurs, who will be bold and humble enough to face the victims family to apologise for their gross error of judgement, their incompetence. No one will, for they will all protect each other's backs. They will all however live with a victims blood on their hands. Profit in place of life.

Score: 14

issacchunt
11:02am Sat 7 Jun 14

Go look at the chaos the new mc'd at picket post is causing, and the one in Totton (red lion) and its not open yet!

Go look at the chaos the new mc'd at picket post is causing, and the one in Totton (red lion) and its not open yet!issacchunt

Go look at the chaos the new mc'd at picket post is causing, and the one in Totton (red lion) and its not open yet!

Score: 7

Peters567
11:32am Sat 7 Jun 14

NFDC will have blood on their hands if there is a fatal accident at either this or the McDonalds development.

NFDC will have blood on their hands if there is a fatal accident at either this or the McDonalds development.Peters567

NFDC will have blood on their hands if there is a fatal accident at either this or the McDonalds development.

Score: 9

boilerman
11:47am Sat 7 Jun 14

befriendly wrote…

Can't wait for the traffic chaos caused by cars leaving proposed site try to cut across three lanes so they can get back to Totton. Then there's the pedestrians crossing the road. I won't be using any of it as I tried kfc once and I refuse to be ripped of by the others prices as they avoid paying decent wages and avoid paying tax on their inflated profits.

I worked in a **** hole of a house nearly 20yrs ago, the woman was a slob every work surface was filthy and her poor kids were filthy as well.
Just before I left she went and got changed for work she came back in a filthy KFC uniform, I asked her what she did and she said she worked in the food preparation area.
I have never eaten at a KFC since.
What is the point of the local council objecting if it is going to be overridden by a higher authority ?
I thought local issue's were decided by local people.

[quote][p][bold]befriendly[/bold] wrote:
Can't wait for the traffic chaos caused by cars leaving proposed site try to cut across three lanes so they can get back to Totton. Then there's the pedestrians crossing the road. I won't be using any of it as I tried kfc once and I refuse to be ripped of by the others prices as they avoid paying decent wages and avoid paying tax on their inflated profits.[/p][/quote]I worked in a **** hole of a house nearly 20yrs ago, the woman was a slob every work surface was filthy and her poor kids were filthy as well.
Just before I left she went and got changed for work she came back in a filthy KFC uniform, I asked her what she did and she said she worked in the food preparation area.
I have never eaten at a KFC since.
What is the point of the local council objecting if it is going to be overridden by a higher authority ?
I thought local issue's were decided by local people.boilerman

befriendly wrote…

Can't wait for the traffic chaos caused by cars leaving proposed site try to cut across three lanes so they can get back to Totton. Then there's the pedestrians crossing the road. I won't be using any of it as I tried kfc once and I refuse to be ripped of by the others prices as they avoid paying decent wages and avoid paying tax on their inflated profits.

I worked in a **** hole of a house nearly 20yrs ago, the woman was a slob every work surface was filthy and her poor kids were filthy as well.
Just before I left she went and got changed for work she came back in a filthy KFC uniform, I asked her what she did and she said she worked in the food preparation area.
I have never eaten at a KFC since.
What is the point of the local council objecting if it is going to be overridden by a higher authority ?
I thought local issue's were decided by local people.

Score: 9

chavfreezone
12:19pm Sat 7 Jun 14

A site management issue ha ha. have a wonder round Swaythling its nothing but Mcdonalds rubbish. Still money talks where councillors are concerned. KFC is not food.

A site management issue ha ha. have a wonder round Swaythling its nothing but Mcdonalds rubbish. Still money talks where councillors are concerned. KFC is not food.chavfreezone

A site management issue ha ha. have a wonder round Swaythling its nothing but Mcdonalds rubbish. Still money talks where councillors are concerned. KFC is not food.

Score: 10

03alpe01
1:07pm Sat 7 Jun 14

General rule- if there is commercial profit to be made in it then it will be giving planning permission no matter how wrong it is.

General rule- if there is commercial profit to be made in it then it will be giving planning permission no matter how wrong it is.03alpe01

General rule- if there is commercial profit to be made in it then it will be giving planning permission no matter how wrong it is.

Score: 10

Bobs Your Uncle ?
2:33pm Sat 7 Jun 14

swaythling and mansbridge been turned into a dump ,rubbish everywhere you look.

swaythling and mansbridge been turned into a dump ,rubbish everywhere you look.Bobs Your Uncle ?

swaythling and mansbridge been turned into a dump ,rubbish everywhere you look.

Score: 9

03alpe01
3:52pm Sat 7 Jun 14

Idontusuallycomplain wrote…

It is clear that residents do not want this additional junk food outlet and Totton is already overrun with such places. Why is it then that any council should insist on approving such an application if the people do not want or need it, if such approval is granted. Hopefully common sense will prevail. As for road safety, to negotiate Rushington roundabout ordinarily is very hazardous with the idiots approaching from the Southampton direction cutting across lanes at the last minute to go off towards Marchwood and the HGV's that come on to the roundabout far too fast and in some cases tip over. If you add all the boy racers coming out of the junk food establishment into the mix, it is inevitable a tragedy is just around the corner.

Agreed. I would love to know who is advising the council to approve these plans. There are enough fast food junk outlets around in Totton and in most places Even enough to cause an obesity crisis. Plus, as already stated traffic will become an absolute nightmare and accidents will no doubt occur. But, as I said in my last post nothing else matters to Councils other than commercial revenue.

[quote][p][bold]Idontusuallycomplain[/bold] wrote:
It is clear that residents do not want this additional junk food outlet and Totton is already overrun with such places. Why is it then that any council should insist on approving such an application if the people do not want or need it, if such approval is granted. Hopefully common sense will prevail. As for road safety, to negotiate Rushington roundabout ordinarily is very hazardous with the idiots approaching from the Southampton direction cutting across lanes at the last minute to go off towards Marchwood and the HGV's that come on to the roundabout far too fast and in some cases tip over. If you add all the boy racers coming out of the junk food establishment into the mix, it is inevitable a tragedy is just around the corner.[/p][/quote]Agreed. I would love to know who is advising the council to approve these plans. There are enough fast food junk outlets around in Totton and in most places Even enough to cause an obesity crisis. Plus, as already stated traffic will become an absolute nightmare and accidents will no doubt occur. But, as I said in my last post nothing else matters to Councils other than commercial revenue.03alpe01

Idontusuallycomplain wrote…

It is clear that residents do not want this additional junk food outlet and Totton is already overrun with such places. Why is it then that any council should insist on approving such an application if the people do not want or need it, if such approval is granted. Hopefully common sense will prevail. As for road safety, to negotiate Rushington roundabout ordinarily is very hazardous with the idiots approaching from the Southampton direction cutting across lanes at the last minute to go off towards Marchwood and the HGV's that come on to the roundabout far too fast and in some cases tip over. If you add all the boy racers coming out of the junk food establishment into the mix, it is inevitable a tragedy is just around the corner.

Agreed. I would love to know who is advising the council to approve these plans. There are enough fast food junk outlets around in Totton and in most places Even enough to cause an obesity crisis. Plus, as already stated traffic will become an absolute nightmare and accidents will no doubt occur. But, as I said in my last post nothing else matters to Councils other than commercial revenue.

Score: 3

solomum
5:27pm Sat 7 Jun 14

I think this is all a secret ploy by the government to reduce the population. We will either die through obesity related illness or get killed in a traffic incident caused by the chaos the extra traffic and bad road planning causes. Lets all vote with our feet and refuse to use any of these outlets.

I think this is all a secret ploy by the government to reduce the population. We will either die through obesity related illness or get killed in a traffic incident caused by the chaos the extra traffic and bad road planning causes. Lets all vote with our feet and refuse to use any of these outlets.solomum

I think this is all a secret ploy by the government to reduce the population. We will either die through obesity related illness or get killed in a traffic incident caused by the chaos the extra traffic and bad road planning causes. Lets all vote with our feet and refuse to use any of these outlets.

Score: 4

deepheat
7:25pm Sat 7 Jun 14

KFC.
Kentucky F-R-I-E-D Chicken
It should be called Kentucky Fried Coronary
Fried fecking chicken.
Thats no way to cook a bit of chicken.

KFC.
Kentucky F-R-I-E-D Chicken
It should be called Kentucky Fried Coronary
Fried fecking chicken.
Thats no way to cook a bit of chicken.deepheat

KFC.
Kentucky F-R-I-E-D Chicken
It should be called Kentucky Fried Coronary
Fried fecking chicken.
Thats no way to cook a bit of chicken.

Score: 3

jonone
8:06pm Sat 7 Jun 14

Helmeto wrote…

KFC, McDonalds, Costa, Tesco & all that lot are like a disease to towns & only offer miserable low paid zero hour contracted jobs in souless prefabricated sheds where the sheeple get their cholesterol/Bad caffine fix.

They bring no community value (Costa make a half hearted attempt by putting up a 'community noticeboard' tucked away near the toilets) and as most are protesting, traffic, litter, late night noise. Don't get me wrong, I love a good takeaway but would every time give my money to a local independent place.

Good luck to the protestors, end this virus.

Who is forcing people to go to these places against their will?

Answer: No-one.

I am happy for these places to open as their existence is 100% proof that the claims by Labour and the left of the "cost of living" crisis are complete and total lies.

[quote][p][bold]Helmeto[/bold] wrote:
KFC, McDonalds, Costa, Tesco & all that lot are like a disease to towns & only offer miserable low paid zero hour contracted jobs in souless prefabricated sheds where the sheeple get their cholesterol/Bad caffine fix.
They bring no community value (Costa make a half hearted attempt by putting up a 'community noticeboard' tucked away near the toilets) and as most are protesting, traffic, litter, late night noise. Don't get me wrong, I love a good takeaway but would every time give my money to a local independent place.
Good luck to the protestors, end this virus.[/p][/quote]Who is forcing people to go to these places against their will?
Answer: No-one.
I am happy for these places to open as their existence is 100% proof that the claims by Labour and the left of the "cost of living" crisis are complete and total lies.jonone

Helmeto wrote…

KFC, McDonalds, Costa, Tesco & all that lot are like a disease to towns & only offer miserable low paid zero hour contracted jobs in souless prefabricated sheds where the sheeple get their cholesterol/Bad caffine fix.

They bring no community value (Costa make a half hearted attempt by putting up a 'community noticeboard' tucked away near the toilets) and as most are protesting, traffic, litter, late night noise. Don't get me wrong, I love a good takeaway but would every time give my money to a local independent place.

Good luck to the protestors, end this virus.

Who is forcing people to go to these places against their will?

Answer: No-one.

I am happy for these places to open as their existence is 100% proof that the claims by Labour and the left of the "cost of living" crisis are complete and total lies.

Score: 1

Positively4thStreet
9:09am Sun 8 Jun 14

The County Council are claiming the proposed development will only create a "relatively small increase in traffic"...isn't it the duty of any council to REDUCE,the amount of traffic anywhere,especially where traffic levels are already dangerously high?

The County Council are claiming the proposed development will only create a "relatively small increase in traffic"...isn't it the duty of any council to REDUCE,the amount of traffic anywhere,especially where traffic levels are already dangerously high?Positively4thStreet

The County Council are claiming the proposed development will only create a "relatively small increase in traffic"...isn't it the duty of any council to REDUCE,the amount of traffic anywhere,especially where traffic levels are already dangerously high?

Score: 0

Solent Soul
12:45am Mon 9 Jun 14

The emergency services are going to be kept busy on that junction; let's hope it's no one close to us that may come off worse for wear at this total abortion of an retail venue..

The emergency services are going to be kept busy on that junction; let's hope it's no one close to us that may come off worse for wear at this total abortion of an retail venue..Solent Soul

The emergency services are going to be kept busy on that junction; let's hope it's no one close to us that may come off worse for wear at this total abortion of an retail venue..

Score: 1

Stubs
7:06pm Sun 8 Jun 14

Years ago all you would see is people with a bottle of water in their hands. Now you just see people with cups of coffee and burgers in their hands. Some people are as big as monsters these days.

Years ago all you would see is people with a bottle of water in their hands. Now you just see people with cups of coffee and burgers in their hands. Some people are as big as monsters these days.Stubs

Years ago all you would see is people with a bottle of water in their hands. Now you just see people with cups of coffee and burgers in their hands. Some people are as big as monsters these days.

Score: 0

forest hump
2:08pm Sun 8 Jun 14

Cheerful bunch of Bananas!

Cheerful bunch of Bananas!forest hump

Cheerful bunch of Bananas!

Score: -2

Charlie Bucket
3:52pm Sun 8 Jun 14

Helmeto wrote…

KFC, McDonalds, Costa, Tesco & all that lot are like a disease to towns & only offer miserable low paid zero hour contracted jobs in souless prefabricated sheds where the sheeple get their cholesterol/Bad caffine fix.

They bring no community value (Costa make a half hearted attempt by putting up a 'community noticeboard' tucked away near the toilets) and as most are protesting, traffic, litter, late night noise. Don't get me wrong, I love a good takeaway but would every time give my money to a local independent place.

Good luck to the protestors, end this virus.

Nobody says sheeple any more. It's a ridiculous, arrogant word.

[quote][p][bold]Helmeto[/bold] wrote:
KFC, McDonalds, Costa, Tesco & all that lot are like a disease to towns & only offer miserable low paid zero hour contracted jobs in souless prefabricated sheds where the sheeple get their cholesterol/Bad caffine fix.
They bring no community value (Costa make a half hearted attempt by putting up a 'community noticeboard' tucked away near the toilets) and as most are protesting, traffic, litter, late night noise. Don't get me wrong, I love a good takeaway but would every time give my money to a local independent place.
Good luck to the protestors, end this virus.[/p][/quote]Nobody says sheeple any more. It's a ridiculous, arrogant word.Charlie Bucket

Helmeto wrote…

KFC, McDonalds, Costa, Tesco & all that lot are like a disease to towns & only offer miserable low paid zero hour contracted jobs in souless prefabricated sheds where the sheeple get their cholesterol/Bad caffine fix.

They bring no community value (Costa make a half hearted attempt by putting up a 'community noticeboard' tucked away near the toilets) and as most are protesting, traffic, litter, late night noise. Don't get me wrong, I love a good takeaway but would every time give my money to a local independent place.

Good luck to the protestors, end this virus.

Nobody says sheeple any more. It's a ridiculous, arrogant word.

Score: -1

Charlie Bucket
3:53pm Sun 8 Jun 14

Idontusuallycomplain wrote…

It is clear that residents do not want this additional junk food outlet and Totton is already overrun with such places. Why is it then that any council should insist on approving such an application if the people do not want or need it, if such approval is granted. Hopefully common sense will prevail. As for road safety, to negotiate Rushington roundabout ordinarily is very hazardous with the idiots approaching from the Southampton direction cutting across lanes at the last minute to go off towards Marchwood and the HGV's that come on to the roundabout far too fast and in some cases tip over. If you add all the boy racers coming out of the junk food establishment into the mix, it is inevitable a tragedy is just around the corner.

It's clear that a handful of Echo commenters who may or may not be residents do not want this. Beyond that, you're simply making things up.

[quote][p][bold]Idontusuallycomplain[/bold] wrote:
It is clear that residents do not want this additional junk food outlet and Totton is already overrun with such places. Why is it then that any council should insist on approving such an application if the people do not want or need it, if such approval is granted. Hopefully common sense will prevail. As for road safety, to negotiate Rushington roundabout ordinarily is very hazardous with the idiots approaching from the Southampton direction cutting across lanes at the last minute to go off towards Marchwood and the HGV's that come on to the roundabout far too fast and in some cases tip over. If you add all the boy racers coming out of the junk food establishment into the mix, it is inevitable a tragedy is just around the corner.[/p][/quote]It's clear that a handful of Echo commenters who may or may not be residents do not want this. Beyond that, you're simply making things up.Charlie Bucket

Idontusuallycomplain wrote…

It is clear that residents do not want this additional junk food outlet and Totton is already overrun with such places. Why is it then that any council should insist on approving such an application if the people do not want or need it, if such approval is granted. Hopefully common sense will prevail. As for road safety, to negotiate Rushington roundabout ordinarily is very hazardous with the idiots approaching from the Southampton direction cutting across lanes at the last minute to go off towards Marchwood and the HGV's that come on to the roundabout far too fast and in some cases tip over. If you add all the boy racers coming out of the junk food establishment into the mix, it is inevitable a tragedy is just around the corner.

It's clear that a handful of Echo commenters who may or may not be residents do not want this. Beyond that, you're simply making things up.

Score: 1

The Mad Dog
5:05pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Daily Echo, where is the report apoloigising for getting this article so badly wrong and reporting that the council threw this application out again?
Surely you should be big enough to admit you got it wrong?

Daily Echo, where is the report apoloigising for getting this article so badly wrong and reporting that the council threw this application out again?
Surely you should be big enough to admit you got it wrong?The Mad Dog

Daily Echo, where is the report apoloigising for getting this article so badly wrong and reporting that the council threw this application out again?
Surely you should be big enough to admit you got it wrong?

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