Russians have a vote on the UN security council and will block UN admission for Kosovo for who knows how long. Amateur radio is alive and well there albeit with a YU8 prefix. Unless DXCC changes the new entity rules, this will remain in place until if/when UN admission happens.

I am curious to know what Russia's beef is with Kosovo becoming a country....is it cultural?....Religious?.....Ethnic?...Does it have something to do with the breakup of YU?......Not to get all political on everyone, but I am just wondering what Russia's gripe is......either way, I am not losing sleep over it (as I have had more important troubles to worry about lately), but if I had my drouthers, I'd rather have Kosovo (a real mass of land) on the list than a bunch of pebbles in the water that some say qualifies as a country.....I think you all know what I mean, eh Geno???..... .............

I am curious to know what Russia's beef is with Kosovo becoming a country....is it cultural?....Religious?.....Ethnic?...Does it have something to do with the breakup of YU?......Not to get all political on everyone, but I am just wondering what Russia's gripe is......either way, I am not losing sleep over it (as I have had more important troubles to worry about lately), but if I had my drouthers, I'd rather have Kosovo (a real mass of land) on the list than a bunch of pebbles in the water that some say qualifies as a country.....I think you all know what I mean, eh Geno???..... .............

VKA3NRX

I thought it was because Kosovo is part of Serbia. Serbia has always been a Russian ally. If Serbia says Kosovo is still Serbia and has been for decades. Someone just may as well move on.

Good discussion - this makes sense. It doesn't matter to me one way or the other if and when it is added to the list - I'm much more excited about ZL9HR, Z80B, VK0/H plus a few that I know will be announced to top 20 places for 2013.

Its funny, after working Malpelo, Yemen, Palestine and Iran this year (all considered rare for the West Coast - and only Malpelo being "easy") I've become addicted to the really rare ones - they have been driving me to really get into designing and building the antennas that will help me snag them. That has made DXCC all that much more fun in the process.

Kosovo as a new one will be as exciting as the "PJ's" were for me. Easy and only mildly exciting.

And now I completely understand why entities that are only "pebbles in the sea" will remain on the list until they end up like this:

Good discussion - this makes sense. It doesn't matter to me one way or the other if and when it is added to the list - I'm much more excited about ZL9HR, Z80B, VK0/H plus a few that I know will be announced to top 20 places for 2013.

Its funny, after working Malpelo, Yemen, Palestine and Iran this year (all considered rare for the West Coast - and only Malpelo being "easy") I've become addicted to the really rare ones - they have been driving me to really get into designing and building the antennas that will help me snag them. That has made DXCC all that much more fun in the process.

Kosovo as a new one will be as exciting as the "PJ's" were for me. Easy and only mildly exciting.

And now I completely understand why entities that are only "pebbles in the sea" will remain on the list until they end up like this:

Good discussion - this makes sense. It doesn't matter to me one way or the other if and when it is added to the list - I'm much more excited about ZL9HR, Z80B, VK0/H plus a few that I know will be announced to top 20 places for 2013.

Its funny, after working Malpelo, Yemen, Palestine and Iran this year (all considered rare for the West Coast - and only Malpelo being "easy") I've become addicted to the really rare ones - they have been driving me to really get into designing and building the antennas that will help me snag them. That has made DXCC all that much more fun in the process.

Kosovo as a new one will be as exciting as the "PJ's" were for me. Easy and only mildly exciting.

And now I completely understand why entities that are only "pebbles in the sea" will remain on the list until they end up like this:

I can't find anywhere the group there is actually asking for DXCC status. They may have hinted at it, but they seem to be more focused on establishing amateur radio there and the establishment of an amateur radio society.

I may have missed it, but even the link at the Z60K QRZ.com page makes references to current and future problems that could effect independence status - including that NATO forces will remain in the country, presumably until an agreement with Serbia and Kosovo is reached.

Although it would be a nice QSL to have from a history point of view - the DXCC rules are clear, so unless they have a secret ITU callsign block assigned - I don't think the rules should be bent. To do otherwise would mock the current rules.

Well it was asked as to objections for a Republic of Kosovo. To my knowledge there has never been one.The area and Albania has always been administered by one power or another. Ottomans, Austro-Hungary, Italy, Greece, Germans, Yuogoslavia, and Serbia.Since WWII Kosovo has been an area of Serbia.

Now back to religions and Albania. As Ottomans had control for many years, there was a strong Muslim following. The communist Albanians tried toeradicate all religions in the 1970's as I recall. Had some success, but obviously stirred the pot in that area.

Well next we have Clinton interveneing in the area in late 1990's. The bombing campaigns etc. I am not saying what is right or wrong. But you know there was ethnic re-distribution. Certainly a controversial area. U.N. and US say this, the Russians and Serbs say otherwise.As I understand it, even China sides with Serbia.

I guess this effort is at showing that the local Pristina, Kosovo government is in charge.

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