Folie A Deux
Reviewed by:
UG Team, on december 16, 2008 20 of 35 people found this review helpful

Sound: Love them or hate them, Fall Out Boy wrote a couple of hyper-infectious pop-punk early on in their career. It's easy to hate a media whore like Pete Wentz but the combination of his snarky lyrics and Patrick Stump's candy-coated vocal melodies made for some guilty-pleasure listening. As the band's profile has risen, they've slowly shed the pop-punk tendencies of their first two albums and opened up their sound to a host of new influences. On last year's Infinity On High the Chicago combo even brought in R&B hitmaker Babyface to lend his touch to the proceedings. If that doesn't give you a hint of what they were up to, nothing will.
On Folie Deux Fall Out Boy take their pop aspirations even further. So if you gave up on the group after their last album, this one isn't going to bring you back. The list of collaborators says it all. Lil Wayne, Pharrell Williams, and even Blondie's Deborah Harry make appearances never adding anything worthwhile enough to warrant their presence here. Tiffany Blews features a rap from Lil Wayne but it comes off like a failed moment of experimentation that it does as anything worthwhile. Even Elvis Costello's guest spot on the clumsily titled What a Catch, Donnie doesn't save the song from being a complete trainwreck. On this one, the band tries taking the ballad approach but the bloated arrangement suffocates the track in the end. Actually, most of the album is held back by its own inflated production ideas. // 6

Lyrics: Despite Folie Deux's many failures; Stump still delivers the goods on his end in the vocal department. Unfortunately the synthetic and overstuffed production values often squish his voice leaving you longing for acoustic versions of many of these songs. But the frontman manages to squeeze through some inspired work here. His honeyed vocals on "Disloyal Order of Water Buffaloes reminds you why a big part of FOB's success has been his memorable melody lines. He has complete command over his higher register and uses it to powerful effect throughout the album like in the chorus to the aforementioned What a Catch, Donnie. In terms of the lyrics, Wentz brings his A game. His wordplay is as engaging and biting as ever. He has Stump sing Does your husband know the way that the sunshine gleams from your wedding band, on Headfirst Slide into Cooperstown on a Bad Bet creating the kind of line teenaged girls will be quoting on their MySpace profiles in the process. So while the album misses the mark on many levels, the singing and lyrics aren't the culprits here. // 7

Overall Impression: Producer Neal Avron commits ProTool overkill on Folie Deux and while FOB were aiming for the rafters in terms of commerciality, it still sucks the life out of the material here. Joe Trohman and Stump's guitars sound like they are coming out of army of Line 6 Pods instead of actual amplifiers. The guitars, and the bass and drums for that matter, are the victims of oversaturation and at this point in the game you would think a veteran like Avron would know better. Everything just sounds overblown and processed. This overtly digital production style might work for say, an Akon or Britney Spears album but it fails here. A touch of imperfection here and there would have done the record good. Look, there's no doubt the band are great at what they do but there's something to say about knowing your strengths and honing in on them. Like their label mates, Panic At The Disco, Fall Out Boy should focus on their infectious melodies more and lay off of the grandiose production values. While both Stump and Wentz once again prove they are forces to reckon with, they also show us here that they need the right person behind the mixing board to help them edit themselves. Time will tell if this album sells the kinds of numbers the band obviously is shooting for but here's to hoping they revisit the simpler, streamlined approach of their older material next time out. // 6

Folie A Deux
Reviewed by:
takenthecannoli, on march 19, 2013 8 of 10 people found this review helpful

Sound: Fall Out Boy entered the studio for recording of "Folie A Deux" (2008) after a bizarre relationship with the media (reflected in some of "Infinity On High", 2007 and the Great Wentz Reveal of 2006) and an apparent need to prove something (again, "Infinity"). With 2007's critically lukewarm release, the band's fanbase began to split between pretentious "I was listening to their terrible EP in the old days" fans and the obnoxious "I love Fall Out Boy's whole collection; both 'This Ain't A Scene' AND 'Thnks Fr Th Mmrs'" type. Whether this impacted the follow-up or not is up for debate, though singer/guitarist Patrick Stump stated that he intended for "Folie" to feature a bit less... Well, him. Bizarrely enough, he seems to believe there was anything else featured on "Infinity" worth listening to.
At the outset of "Folie", the band has clearly taken an entirely new (for them) direction, though 70s-80s glam-lovers will certainly pick up on the Van Halen stomp in "Disloyal Order Of Water Buffaloes". Similarly, "Headfirst Slide Into Cooperstown On A Bad Bet" has some of the same hooks as the bands in the generation just preceding Fall Out Boy (namely, those who grew up on 80s hits). Die-hard fans of 2005's "From Under The Cork Tree" will probably whine distressing stories from the band report booing from crowds when they performed new songs.
Shows you what they know.
Contrary to the outcry from whatever very vocal group of bubblegum punk lovers, "Folie" is undoubtedly the band's strongest release to date. The multi-layered instrumentation, creative insertion of various inspiration (from Prince to Billy Joel), and overall performances - even from Wentz this time! - delight from the first cut to the abrupt drop into silence at the end of "West Coast Smoker". Fall Out Boy's guitar work hasn't generally been bad; here, it's often marvelous. Drummer Andy Hurley steps into the spotlight more often than before. Rather than directly follow or out-Infinity "Infinity", the band takes more chances and succeeds with greater results than ever before.
Unlike "Infinity", few songs (if any) muddle into the rest; each has a readily distinguishable character. "She's My Winona" is an alternation between typical Fall Out Boy chorus (particularly with the guitar) and an entirely new funk; "Tiffany Blews" is a sensual groove with a hint of danger; at the center of the record is the impossibly good "What A Catch, Donnie", one of the record's only autobiographical tracks with a "Hey, Jude" recollection of the band's previous work near the end and an astounding performance from Stump. "America's Suitehearts" rolls in with a delightful dream sequence of harmonies, later revisited in "W.A.M.S.", which includes a capella work from Stump.
Despite Generation Y's outrageous entitlement to "being there first", anyone still rocking "Take This To Your Grave" is in for a sore disappointment Fall Out Boy has moved on to bigger and better things. If "From Under The Cork Tree" was last year's "The Clash", this is "London Calling". It's simply more fun, and there's more fun to be had more substance. The composition especially has taken an incredible leap, rivaling 2000s giants "American Idiot" and "The Black Parade". "Folie A Deux" finally moves Fall Out Boy out of the basements of 14-year-olds and one step closer to truly deserved superstardom. // 7

Lyrics: Stump's "less me" desire certainly didn't seem to make it all the way through the door; the record showcases his abilities in a greater capacity than any previous release, whether vocally or musically. This is neither a burden nor an obstruction; as an incredibly capable singer, Stump powerfully highlights bassist Pete Wentz's vocals, whether music accompanies or not (see hidden opener "Lullabye"). If anything, Stump is the band's greatest asset various members have, at times, described him as the "mad scientist" of composition within the band. Nowhere is his musical deftness, or his vocal talent, more evident than on "Folie".
Stump has occasionally showcased soul-inspired vocals with Fall Out Boy, most notably on "Infinity"'s lead single, "This Ain't A Scene, It's An Arms Race", even parodying himself forcefully belting in its music video. With "Folie A Deux", what Stump later coined as "soul punk" is in full effect, from thrilling vibrato to incredible tenor range ("The (Shipped) Gold Standard"). Duality between the stylistic shifts in the music and Stump's vocal work is a sound to behold; while the band's singles have been catchy, never before has any track been entirely worth listening to purely for the work put into it.
Wentz steps up with his lyrical work as well, though has done so to some degree with each release. "Folie" is less of the band's typical sexed-up failed romance though shadows of it are present in "27" and more of "Grave"'s self-doubt mixed with inflated ego and a healthy dose of social commentary. Tracks like "(Coffee's For Closers)" suggest the mutual benefit between salespeople and their customers; each needing the other and so on; Western fascination with its broken idols is spotlighted in "America's Suitehearts". All in all, it isn't necessarily more profound than anything Wentz has written before, but it puts the band's narrator in a position of greater self-awareness.
"Folie A Deux" sees a vocally realized and lyrically mature Fall Out Boy; Stump certainly didn't keep his promise to step aside (or so), and the record is better for it. Wentz seemed to finally put aside his fascination with himself (it was all over "Infinity") and finally put the cliches and tongue-in-cheek commentary to work. A few guest vocalists ("What A Catch, Donnie" features Elvis Costello and others; "20 Dollar Nosebleed" is a duet with Panic! At The Disco's Brendon Urie, "Tiffany Blews" briefly spotlights Lil Wayne) do litter the record, and don't altogether add much, though "Nosebleed" further layers the record with a slightly musical theatre bounce. The moments pass quickly enough that they don't invade, and with or without them, this is a bigger and better band for both lyrical and vocal work. // 7

Overall Impression: Critics of "Folie A Deux" claim the record falls too far from the band's roots, or submit the age-old "it just isn't them". On the contrary, with this release, the band again proves its capabilities and utter security in the bigger world of music. Never before has their identity been more certain, never before have they produced such eloquently constructed music. The vaguely concept-album feel is not only tackled by the band; it is mastered. "Folie A Deux" finally gives Fall Out Boy access to the best-of-the-2000s club, alongside Muse and Radiohead (admittedly without, in each case, the Twilight connection). Patrick Stump especially steps to the plate with big names like Kanye West, Tom Waits t-shirt in hand. With "Save Rock And Roll" coming in 2013, the band may find difficulty scaling the heights this album reaches. Undoubtedly, listeners will enjoy the ride.

Folie A Deux
Reviewed by:
thunderstruck56, on december 18, 2008 3 of 4 people found this review helpful

Sound: I'm going to go out on a limb with this one: I liked (most) of this record. No it is not the greatest CD ever made, nor is it bad by any means, it is just average. But for a band whose career was built off being better than average, it comes off as somewhat of a disappointment in the first few listens. But it is one step in the right direction. This album picks up where Infinity on High leaves off. The same melodies are there from the strings from Thks fr the mmrs on (Coffee for Closers) or however you spell that horrid song, but this time around they have been tighter wound and sent through pro tools. It is easy to make comparisons to songs on Infinity On High from the bombastic opener "Disloyal Order of the Water Buffalo" is very similar to "Thriller" and the clanky pop guitar driven "The (Shipped) Gold Standard" sounds quite a lot like "I'm Like a Lawyer the way I am coming between (Me and You)". But this isn't necessarily a bad thing. It is almost like FOB took these songs and said "How could improve and reuse this riff or idea?" and bam new songs. The first 9 songs were great, they were all relatively instrumentally strong, and what you would come to expect, and it all ironically climaxed with "What A Catch Donnie" a slow piano ballad that was a reflection of their career, (Arguably the best song on the CD). This song is an improvement over the piano weepfest that was "Golden". Something about that song reminds me of Pink Floyd. After that it all goes downhill from there.
The last 4 or so songs were barely tolerable. It sounds like they just decided either that they had to rush the album and get it finishing by making lackluster It all begins with "Tiffany Blows" which almost sounds like a chris brown meets michael jackson song and crescendo's with a guest cameo from of all the people in the world Lil Wayne. Just thinking about his little cameo makes me want to throw up. w.a.m.s might as well be elevator music as far as I am concerned, and it is by far the weakest track on the album. Continuing with the elevator music theme from the previous track, "20 Dollar Nose Bleed" just sounds like a mixture of Mannheim Steamroller music and panic at the disco, and just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Finally we end up with West Coast Smoker, which sounds like 70's game show music and just ends abruptly without a definite conclusion. The musicianship on a lot of these songs just sounds lazy, like the bass and drums on most of the tracks, which is a bit of a let down for me because Pete Wentz is one of the few respectable bassists left in the world, and Andy Hurley's drums are usually top notch. But what they lack in bass, they compensate with keyboards and strings. // 6

Lyrics: Patrick Stump really outdoes himself on this album, and while the other members of the band sound they are going through the motions, Stump pushes himself to sound better than did on the last album. This just cements himself as one of the greatest modern singers. There are just too many moments on the CD that gave me chills down my spine when he belts out with his echoy croon. The most memorable being the song "What A Catch Donnie", a slow piano number where Stump shows off his singing skills. Stump also shows off the extent of his vocal range in the song "Head First Slide into Cooperstown on a bad bet" (a song dedicated to Pete Rose, the greatest shortstop who ever lived) where he goes into a note that is so low it almost sounds like it is being played in slow motion. My only complaint about his singing would be on the song w.a.m.s. His voice goes all over the place, and it just isn't pretty to listen. His instrument is fine tuned, but I wish I could say the same thing about the lyrics. The lyrics are a bit contrived (Getting famous, not wanting the fame but secretly wanting it) Pete Wentz isn't necessarily getting lazy, but he is just too happy to write about the pain and heartbreak that made him famous. I used to be able to identify with his lyrics about loosing your girlfriend to an asshole etc. I can't really identify with him on songs like "America's Suitehearts" when he talks about self indulgence. Plus Wentz has lost his ability to use clever wordplay. But thThe lyrical stand outs would have to be the "Disloyal Order", "Headfirst Slide", and "What a catch Donnie". // 8

Overall Impression: I should have seen this coming awhile back when the first single "I Don't Care" was released, but now that the album, is out it is apparent: I don't think Pete Wentz really gives a shit about his music and what people think about it. He can still make a catchy as hell pop song. but he is rich, happy and married, and all of that really shows on this album. I think this album feels rushed (it was originally scheduled to be released a year to the day after Infinity on High, but it was moved back a few weeks for mysterious reasons) and incomplete. If they had just taken a little bit more time and developed some of the songs a little better and put more musicianship into their songs, this would have easily been an instant classic. No, Fall Out Boy fans will never recieve another "Take This To Your Grave", because Fall Out Boy has the balls to go out on a limb and experiment different types of pop music. Infinity on High went out on a limb in many aspects of their music, and lots of those experimental songs just sucked.
Well they learned from their mistakes and tweaked their formula and made songs that sounded similar to those from Infinity on High, but is far superior. And on top of that, they continue to experiment with new styles of music, but those experimental songs sound happened to sound like crap, and I hope on the next album they learn from those mistakes and find a way to make something amazing. The same thing happened to Weezer this year when they released The Red Album, (except that was so experimental that none of the songs sounded good) Don't let me dissuade you, this CD has some a lot of enjoyable songs on it, the first 9 to be exact, and since the CD costs 9.99 on iTunes, I totally recommend you go buy it because the good song-to-price ratio makes the price tag worth it, and you can be the judge yourself about the 4 remaining slime songs. But if I had to recommend only 3 songs I would choose "Disloyal Order", "Headfirst Slide into Cooperstown" and "What A Catch Donnie". Would I buy it again if it was stolen? Well considering I bought a 100 dollar collectors set version, I'd think likely. But the boys better step up to their A game next time.
On a related note, there were bits and pieces of new Fall Out Boy songs put on a mixtape a few months back and only one of them was put on the album (I Don't Care) Most likely those will be released on a "Deluxe" version with like 8 bonus songs, and if there are some of the songs from the Mixtape on the deluxe, then they will be better than some of the CD songs. // 7

Folie A Deux
Reviewed by:
st jimmy666, on february 04, 2009 2 of 3 people found this review helpful

Sound: Fall Out Boy have definitely changed their style from the days of Take This To Your Grave and From Under The Cork Tree. I would say there are only two songs that could really be classed as pop-punk. That said it isn't necessarily a bad thing. Most of the songs sound like those off of Infinity On High but have been improved. She's My Winona sounds a lot like Don't You Know Who I Think I am in the chorus and (Coffee's For Closers) sounds like a heavier version of The (After) Life Of The Party. If Infinity On High was an attempt change their genre then this album takes that ambition even further. // 8

Lyrics: I've always been a fan of the sarcasm that Wentz puts into his lyrics and this album doesn't disappoint. You can still feel the emotion he puts into his songwriting. Patrick Stump is one of favorite singers and his vocals on some of these songs are mind-blowing. he explores his full range in the song What A Catch, Donnie, and on (Coffee's For Closers) he puts a huge amount of effort and emotion into his singing. // 9

Overall Impression: With the exception of Infinity On High, this album is completely different from FOB's others. It is a definite improvement on their last album but I would till love to see them make a return to the old days. If this was lost or stolen I would definitely buy it again. // 8

Folie A Deux
Reviewed by:
Misery_Business, on february 27, 2009 1 of 1 people found this review helpful

Sound: The sound of this album is very different from their other albums.Espically when you look back at the timeline from "Take This To Your Grave" to "Folie A Deux". That's not always a bad thing, but then again it's not always not a good thing. The sound is new for Fall Out Boy and it stands out on songs like "27" and "West Coast Smoker". Personally I think they should go back to their old sound but that's just me. They did however sound great with songs like "I Don't Care" and "The Shipped Gold Standard", Both had a great rock feel. Also I thought their collabaration with Brendon Urie from Panic At The Disco was great and definetley made "20 Dollar Nose Bleed" shine on the record. // 8

Lyrics: I've always been a fan of Pete's lyrics. He always hints sarcasm with a hint of seriousness. I think the lyrics on this one we're a bit off, espically in songs like "West Coast Smoker", and "W.A.M.S". Though they stood out on other songs with catchy lyrics.As far as Patrick's singing, I was very very impressed at how he stepped it up vocally for "What A Catch, Donnie" and "Headfirst Slide". Overally I loved most of the lyrics and Patrick's vocals but I wasn't a big fan of the guests (Excluding Bredon Urie) I thought the others were pretty terrible. // 8

Overall Impression: Honestley, you can't compare this to Take This To Your Grave and From Under The Cork Tree since they don't have the same sound at all. Though I love this album I'd definetley like to see them go back to their roots for their next album. The most impressive songs on this album are "What A Catch, Donnie", "Coffee's For Closers" and "I Don't Care". The thing I loved most about the album is how Patrick stepped up vocally and some of the catchy hooks, Though that was slightly overshadowed by the lame collabs with other musicians. I currentley have the '33 vynil of Folie A Deux but if it was stolen I'd definetley buy it again. Overall this was a great album but not as good as the albums that it proceeded. // 8

Folie A Deux
Reviewed by:
unregistered, on august 10, 2009 1 of 1 people found this review helpful

Sound: This new album of Fall Out Boy's, Folie a Deux has a Sound of like no other, mainly because there is nothing like it out there. With punk sounds of 27 and West Coast Smoker, and the hip hop sounds of Tiffany Blews, the half rock half ballad What a Catch, Donnie, and even the Elevator Music soundings of w.a.m.s. It seems like a soup of music good for anyone, well maybe not thos die-hard punk finatics that loved their first 3 albums, Fall Out Boy's Evening out with your Girlfriend, Take this to your Grave, and From Under the Cork Tree. The sound overall appeals to me as Infinity on High with a little more "Darkness" or Edge in it. However with Singles like I Don't Care and America's Suitehearts on the Radio its hard to get Fall Out Boy out of your head. // 9

Lyrics: According to many interviews Pete Wentz has gone on record saying that for himself personaly the songs on this album are fictional in his life, but appeal to the current generation as the truth. Going very deep in his lyrics Wentz has said that songs like (Coffee's for Closers)is about change in places in the world like Africa, and Disloyal Order of Water Buffaloes is how about how fast our gerneration is moving. In Mr. Wentz's lyrics he takes away some of emo stylings like "How misery Love Me" (Dance, Dance) and adds a tad use of drug references in it's place. Patrick Stump keeps up his vocal range on this album in songs like, Headfirst Slide into Cooperstown on a Bad Bet and The (Shipped) Gold Standard. The Lyrics however seem not to match up with he music for example in the song, She's my Winona the bridge has Bass and immeditly changes to acoustic guitar with no warning. All in all the Lyrics and Singing very well done but room for improvement. // 8

Overall Impression: This Album is like no other, their earlier punk is mainly gone and Infinty on High's Genius is Reinvented. With all the Artists they recorded with Fall Out Boy's sound is the most unique, well besides Panic! at the Discos Pretty. Odd. 60's sound. To me the most Imprssive songs on the album are, Headfirst Slide into Cooperstown on a Bad Bet, Tiffany Blews, and 20 Dollar Nose Bleed. I Love the Album itself all together, and many songs inspire me greatly. However the second part of the album (27 to the West Coast Smoker) seems out of place and the Artists seem to run out of ideas. If I lost it I Would buy another one, bacause it inspires me and its amazing to hear this band, I mainly think that changing from punk to this was a good idea, but as i said before there is room for improvement. // 9

Folie A Deux
Reviewed by:
katprocrastine, on january 11, 2010 1 of 1 people found this review helpful

Sound: On first hearing "I Don't Care" when it was released as a single I was shocked. Not necessarily negatively, but I knew instantly that Fall Out Boy had departed even further from their earlier sound and that this album would be controversial amongst listeners. We heard about the friction between the band members in the studio, although the chemistry between them doesn't come across fragmentated on the album. Far more "tweaked" and "polished" than their past material which some may see as a downside; I think it was overdone to a small extent but where it is done well it is highly effective and gives certain tracks like "Headfist Slide into Cooperstown on a Bad Bet" a rich and sensual sound. Strange adjectives but considering the subject of the songs, I think they were spot on with some of the tracks.
Elements of strange elevator music pop "W.A.M.S" (although the last 30seconds are a refreshing departure), choral music, dabbling in hip-hop "Tiffany Blews" and classic piano ballads "Disloyal Order of Water Buffaloes"; it appears as though Fall Out Boy threw a load of interesting musical elements into the mixing pot and the tracks that were created were very much hit and miss with the experimenting. // 7

Lyrics: Wentz has become infamous for his ironic storytelling abilities and self-centred arrogance in his lyrics. Although he claims the album is mainly political, I think the subtlty of the message was mostly missed by the average listener and it could easily be interpreted as having major themes of love, betrayal, jealousy and apathy. In that way, I think it was disappointing that they were attempting to branch out lyrically and didn't quite succeed. However, although what they do have lyrically is nothing spectacularly different or mind-blowing for them; they have been consistently witty with song lyrics and so in that way I was very impressed. // 8

Overall Impression: I was given the deluxe version as a birthday present and on listening to it as a whole; it had me dancing around my room for major parts of it. It is mostly up tempo with heavy beats that stride foward supported by catchy (I hate to say it, because it doesn't make the record horrible to listen to) guitars riffs and the occassional well-thought and unusual chord sequence. Everyone appears to be on good form here; but somehow Stump with his quiet genius manages to outshine them all. As the composer, rhythm guitarist and lead singer, it is not suprising that Stump is the main focus of all the tracks. But not only that; he seems to give everything to every syllable and scat. In my opinion; it is his passion and determination to give the listener an orgasm for the ears that makes this record.
I would classify myself as a Fall Out Boy fan, I would even go so far as to say they are my favourite band; however this album's ability to whip me into a frenzy mellowed after a few months. I love the familiarity of Fall Out Boy's sound embedded in the hit and miss experimentation and I love the acoustic version of "America's Suitehearts" over the full track. I think Fall Out Boy sound their best when stripped down and more of that should have been on this album to counter balance the studio-enhanced sound that seeped through a lot.
If it were lost or stolen (I don't know any thieves with Fall Out Boy fetishes but hey) I would buy it again although I probably wouldn't buy the deluxe version because the two hideous remixes are the most unbareable minutes of anything I've heard and the other acoustics and one original bonus are a once listen on the internet in my opinion.
There are far worse things in the charts and I think that regardless of your opinion on the band; tracks that work: "What a Catch, Donnie" (a dramatic and passionate piano-based build up), "27" (the best if standard Fall Out Boy formulated track on the album), "She's My Winona" (for the middle-8 and head-bopping drum beat)and "Headfirst Slide into Cooperstown on a Bad Bet" (for Stump's impressive vocal range). The others should be listened to, if only to have a musical gauge of how too musch experimentation can lead a band astray. Live and learn. Hopefully their hiatus will be a big learning curb. // 8

Melodic_Rocker wrote:
Who came up with some the songs names? I don't understand why this band is still around

Because tiny teenage girls who have no clue what they're gonna do with theire lives listen to them.
I'm more concerned about the fact that theire fans are teenage girls and the album cover kind of shows a close resemblance to pedobear.

too true... FOB are just as capable of writing catchy-ass tunes as Billy Talent, but they drop everything for commercialism...
I just compared FOB to Billy Talent. I'll apologise to Ben and Ian while I go hang myself.

ive always grown to hav very little respect for them...but rly after learning more its just wentz i dislike lolz...but yea sum of these songs are pretty good i think....but rly its becuz of pats vocal melodies...
and omfg it IS pedo bear!!!

IamAwesomeness wrote:
ive always grown to hav very little respect for them...but rly after learning more its just wentz i dislike lolz...but yea sum of these songs are pretty good i think....but rly its becuz of pats vocal melodies...
and omfg it IS pedo bear!!!

Agreed, wentz is human though sometime i think he forgets, a band is more than a face...thier music make up for it...getting it after class...

Ill be one of the few who will have the balls to say I love this album...
Doubt many of you could cut a record half as bad as this one. Nuff said, grow some balls and get your head outta scream-o Hard rock. There's other stuff out there.

dude tbf saying i bet you couldn't do it is such a lame argument...
and grow some balls because some of us will prefer heavier music? and because we dont like fall out boy that means we got no ****ing balls?
you realise how funny that sounds
if you like fall out boy - you got balls LOL

"While both Stump and Wentz once again prove they are forces to reckon with, they also show us here that they need the right person behind the mixing board to help them edit themselves."
shoulda got Mark Hoppus to produce it then

Well, I personally don't HATE the album, like all songs, I think if you listen enough you might find some things that you like about it. I like "Disloyal Order of Water Buffaloes, "I Don't Care", and Headfirst Slide into Cooperstown on a Bad Bet, they sound more like the old stuff... I was hoping for moreof thier old stuff, but I think the album just needs some time for people to listen to the songs enough.

I'm gonna have to write my own review later, this one is wayyy negative. This is their best album since TTYG, and if you guys would actually listen to it, it may make a believer out of you yet. I've managed to turn three haters on to them so far with this album.

I'm gonna have to write my own review later, this one is wayyy negative. This is their best album since TTYG, and if you guys would actually listen to it, it may make a believer out of you yet. I've managed to turn three haters on to them so far with this album

Yeah, but the only reason they're growing more popular is because most of these "haters" are either scene kids or people that just listen to any garbage you throw in front of them. Not dissing the band, but just saying...

Lemurs4mangos wrote:
Well, I personally don't HATE the album, like all songs, I think if you listen enough you might find some things that you like about it. I like "Disloyal Order of Water Buffaloes, "I Don't Care", and Headfirst Slide into Cooperstown on a Bad Bet, they sound more like the old stuff... I was hoping for moreof thier old stuff, but I think the album just needs some time for people to listen to the songs enough.

I agree with this, but even liking most of their back catalogue, this album tested my patience beyond measure.
I completely agree with the review that everything got too cluttered...
And is it just me or is Wentz going for some faux-obscura-meta***** lyrical style, following in the steps of PATD's last album almost? Not welcome...

lol this band sucks, they're over hyped, and what this review does is bring it back to the basics....yes, they're popular, yes they're very succesfull, but take away the hype, and the little teenage screaming girls, and you're left with the music, which is total pants.
There are other bands around with way more talent but not as well heard of and it sucks.

GUMY:
Ill be one of the few who will have the balls to say I love this album...
Doubt many of you could cut a record half as bad as this one. Nuff said, grow some balls and get your head outta scream-o Hard rock. There's other stuff out there.
And I'll be the one to say that if you like this albulm or even this band you have no balls because you either are or wannabe a teenage girl.
And yeah I listen to killswitch engage and other "scream-o" type band and if I want to check the "other stuff out there" I flip over to lamb of god...not Fall Out Girl...

jtalep:
There are other bands around with way more talent but not as well heard of and it sucks.
SO true dude...and it's because some music appeals to very simple minded, stupid, people (or teenage girls), that don't know (or know yet) what good music is...and yes it sucks that there are so many dumb asses out there.

I hate bands like this. All you have to do is look at the album names to know you should hate them.
And we need to diss them because everyone should know they suck.
People are entitled to opinions but bands like this are around for attention not for love of music

bjovi400 wrote:
Oli_88 wrote:
Melodic_Rocker wrote:
Who came up with some the songs names? I don't understand why this band is still around
You'd kill yourself if you saw some of The Fall Of Troys song titles.
Song titles for The Devil Wears Prada?

I personally like The Fall Of Troy's song titles. Who cares if they are long, they are interesting and sometimes hilarious. Such as, We Better Learn To Hotwire A Uterus...awesome

I don't think this album sounds bad at all. I felt the production was fine. Not too overdone but not necessarily "raw". I feel like its a solid album, especially compared to Metallica's death Magnetic that came out this year.

it's kinda retarded that people who don't like fall out boy spend more time talkin about them then the bands they actually do like. go post about the bands you like and leave fob alone
i can guarantee all these kids saying "there are a lot of bands better than them" are kids who are in bands that haven't gotten anywhere, there's a reason fob has gotten this big and you are still practicing in your garage.

Benjibum wrote:
too true... FOB are just as capable of writing catchy-ass tunes as Billy Talent, but they drop everything for commercialism...
I just compared FOB to Billy Talent. I'll apologise to Ben and Ian while I go hang myself.

LOL! you almost compared apples and oranges there.

jtalep wrote:
lol this band sucks, they're over hyped, and what this review does is bring it back to the basics....yes, they're popular, yes they're very succesfull, but take away the hype, and the little teenage screaming girls, and you're left with the music, which is total pants.
There are other bands around with way more talent but not as well heard of and it sucks.

what? oh, come on! the band's music doesn't entirely suck. -_- stump is a great musician.
i say, stop taking their music too seriously. i like them because it's fun. when you listen to their songs, sometimes you couldn't help but to dance.

HELLAWAITS88 wrote:
jtalep:
There are other bands around with way more talent but not as well heard of and it sucks.
SO true dude...and it's because some music appeals to very simple minded, stupid, people (or teenage girls), that don't know (or know yet) what good music is...and yes it sucks that there are so many dumb asses out there.

wow. so because other people doesn't share your same taste of music that means they're stupid?!
so wise ...

HELLAWAITS88 wrote:
And I'll be the one to say that if you like this albulm or even this band you have no balls because you either are or wannabe a teenage girl.
And yeah I listen to killswitch engage and other "scream-o" type band and if I want to check the "other stuff out there" I flip over to lamb of god...not Fall Out Girl...

First of all, you're saying people who like FOB are or want to be teenage girls. Are you pulling that out of your ass or something? Just because a band is "popular" doesn't necessarily mean they are good or bad, it just means they attract a lot of people because of their style which a lot of people tend to like (maybe teenage girls, I don't know). You can have your own opinion, but saying that you're a pussy or want to be a girl is a little ridiculous...
Personally, Killswitch Engage is my favorite band and metalcore is my favorite genre. Does that mean I HAVE to hate this band? No. Try broadening your horizons a little bit there bud, and you'll see that there's more to music than just metal. Trust me.
Anyways I haven't listened to the whole thing yet, but from the 30-second previews on iTunes a couple of them seem like they could be fairly decent.

I really like this album - I don't think it was overdone. I actually like every song on it. I think that's cause I'm out to enjoy it, rather than people who listen to it thinking 'How can I insult this?' or 'I must review this in a balanced way.'

FALL OUT BOY IS ONE OF THE BEST BANDS OF THE 21ST CENTURY, SO ALL YOU JACKASSES WHO SAY THEY SUCK AND SHIT, WHY DON'T YOU ALL SCREW YOURSELVES CUZ JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THE MUSIC DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO INSULT IT.

i really like fall out boy but i must say i think this album could have been done better. i cant fault them on thier song writing skills but the main aspect of fall out boy seems to be missing. my fave from this album is probably coffees for closers because it reminds me that they are stil the same band.

Fall Out Boy makes me sick. I listening to one of their new songs off this album on the radio, both in the interests of fairness and because I'm not allowed to touch the music system ever since the incident with the kerb.
It's mindless, pointless, whiney and boring with a complete lack of talent OR soul.

SupaHNinjaH wrote:
I'm not a fan of this band but I'm a silly person and I'm going to bad-mouth them for no good reason.

Fixed.
I'm going to go with many other people's thoughts on this album and say that this one, isn't as good as their previous albums. I really liked a couple of those tracks, genuinelly catchy beats and lyrics.
This is the only album by them that I've listened to every track, but I do still prefer their previous albums.

god i hate emo music. always the same old recycled taking back sunday riffs and like the same 4 power chords. but in other news. . . it seems that grunge is making a come back. alice in chains is back together bout to go on tour and into the studio. green river and dinosaur jr. is getting back together. i hope that grunge comes back and does the same to emo/punk that it did to hair metal and snap all these kids out of there Mtv commas.
- god save the scene

all i have to say is: sellouts FOB sucks ass. After Take This To Your Grave and maybeeeee, From Under The Cork Tree they've completely sucked and sold out. and for the people that say they've matured, no. blink-182(blink-182), Underclass Hero(Sum 41), and American Idiot(Green Day) were mature pop-punk albums.

Awesome review. But now I feel like I have to hear the album, just to hear how horrible it actually is.
I used to like Fall Out Boy. From Under the Cork Tree was a great album.
On a different note, how could anyone actually like Billy Talent? That's one of the most annoying bands I've ever heard.

can't people accept the different sound they developed than TTTYG. i loved tttyg when it came out, but that was like 03. do you expect a band to not grow just to satisfy people who are stoked that they've heard that album, all the people who say fob sold out are people who hope their favorite bands get big just so they can say they liked their old stuff and knew them before they were big

knoxgoalie :
it's kinda retarded that people who don't like fall out boy spend more time talkin about them then the bands they actually do like. go post about the bands you like and leave fob alone
i can guarantee all these kids saying "there are a lot of bands better than them" are kids who are in bands that haven't gotten anywhere, there's a reason fob has gotten this big and you are still practicing in your garage.

they have gotten somewhere becasue they appeal to the radio audience not because of how hard working they are. not to flame fall out boy because i do enjoy some of their music but there are plenty of good bands out there that havn't been discovered because they scare teenage girls..lol. will give this album a spin

From the first single, I don't have high hopes for this cd at all. FOB's just trying to put out commercialized music as quick as they can because they know the spotlight's going to fade soon. And I think it will after this one.
Hopefully, they'll go back to making music like they used to.

Slayer 101 wrote:
god i hate emo music. always the same old recycled taking back sunday riffs and like the same 4 power chords. but in other news. . . it seems that grunge is making a come back. alice in chains is back together bout to go on tour and into the studio. green river and dinosaur jr. is getting back together. i hope that grunge comes back and does the same to emo/punk that it did to hair metal and snap all these kids out of there Mtv commas.
- god save the scene

Metallidethium wrote:
knoxgoalie :
it's kinda retarded that people who don't like fall out boy spend more time talkin about them then the bands they actually do like. go post about the bands you like and leave fob alone
i can guarantee all these kids saying "there are a lot of bands better than them" are kids who are in bands that haven't gotten anywhere, there's a reason fob has gotten this big and you are still practicing in your garage.
they have gotten somewhere becasue they appeal to the radio audience not because of how hard working they are. not to flame fall out boy because i do enjoy some of their music but there are plenty of good bands out there that havn't been discovered because they scare teenage girls..lol. will give this album a spin

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i never said anything about hard working, i'm just saying that certain bands make it and deserve the benefit of the doubt when they try something different. just cuz it's not scream-o doesn't mean they sold out or anything like that

I quite liked the album. I think the production turned out alright. The lyrics are good. Better than Infinity on high. Best song on the album for me is Wams or coffee's for closers. I would suggest giving it a listen before you jump on the bandwagon and start bashing it.

Honestly I think the production on this album is the best (as in best suited to the music) since TTTYG. The guitars sound much better, and the vocal harmonies aren't so overpowering. Everything (except some of the guest vocalists) is very clear in the mix.
If you actually know anything about the band you'll realize that they ARE making music that they like. Patrick Stump loves pop music, and in a way FOB has gotten some dignity back for the genre.

Slayer 101 wrote:
god i hate emo music. always the same old recycled taking back sunday riffs and like the same 4 power chords. but in other news. . . it seems that grunge is making a come back. alice in chains is back together bout to go on tour and into the studio. green river and dinosaur jr. is getting back together. i hope that grunge comes back and does the same to emo/punk that it did to hair metal and snap all these kids out of there Mtv commas.
- god save the scene
Hate to break it to you, but Taking Back Sunday arent emo and neither is Fal out Boy. TBS Is 99999 times better than Slayer any day. I'd even venture to say that Fall out Boy is better than slayer.

QuantumMechanix wrote:
Slayer 101 wrote:
god i hate emo music. always the same old recycled taking back sunday riffs and like the same 4 power chords. but in other news. . . it seems that grunge is making a come back. alice in chains is back together bout to go on tour and into the studio. green river and dinosaur jr. is getting back together. i hope that grunge comes back and does the same to emo/punk that it did to hair metal and snap all these kids out of there Mtv commas.
- god save the scene
Hate to break it to you, but Taking Back Sunday arent emo and neither is Fal out Boy. TBS Is 99999 times better than Slayer any day. I'd even venture to say that Fall out Boy is better than slayer.

Sorry bro but TBS IS emo (Idt FOB really is) and there's no way in hell they're better than Slayer. I don't even like Slayer but they're better in every way compared to bands like TBS.
Anyway,
I have noo interest in this album whatsoever. They completely lost me after IFOH and the fact that Lil' Wayne is on one of the tracks just makes me sick. I did enjoy Take This to Your Grave though.

NoQuarter1 wrote:
dude tbf saying i bet you couldn't do it is such a lame argument...
and grow some balls because some of us will prefer heavier music? and because we dont like fall out boy that means we got no ****ing balls?
you realise how funny that sounds
if you like fall out boy - you got balls LOL

This album is a grower, for sure. The fact that they put most of the best songs on iTunes far ahead of the album's release didn't help much.
And lol at all of the emo sucks/fob sucks comments. I knew that would happen.

i've been an on-off fan of fall out boy and i think i'll buy this album and give them one last chance. it doesn't sound too promising tho. they try a little too hard to be what everyone else wants them to be. i wish they would start being a rock band again like with take this to your grave.

"Like their label mates, Panic At The Disco, Fall Out Boy should focus on their infectious melodies more and lay off of the grandiose production values."
wait...i cant tell, was that an insult toward Panic?

Toastbot wrote:
Slayer 101 wrote:
god i hate emo music. always the same old recycled taking back sunday riffs and like the same 4 power chords. but in other news. . . it seems that grunge is making a come back. alice in chains is back together bout to go on tour and into the studio. green river and dinosaur jr. is getting back together. i hope that grunge comes back and does the same to emo/punk that it did to hair metal and snap all these kids out of there Mtv commas.
- god save the scene
Hate to break it to you, but Fall Out Boy isn't emo.

Type in Fall Out Boy on google and on their home page description, it says so.

Tbh, I really am not a Fall Out Boy fan. I do kinda like their old stuff, it reminds me of how Hit The Lights was before they changed singers: catchy, memorable, very much punk-influenced but poppy, and good. But for any even formerly punk band to have a guest spot by an over-hyped rapper on an original song, thats just a bit too far in the pop direction. I Dont Care sounds like one of the many rock-inspired pop songs, with lyrics much like Pink would write. I honestly think that, altho im only judging by the lead single and past efforts from them, that this is their poppiest effort yet. For guys that warm up with Pantera riffs and have a drummer like Hurley(best member of the band imo), they have very little metal or punk left in em it seems.

Slayer 101 wrote:
god i hate emo music. always the same old recycled taking back sunday riffs and like the same 4 power chords. but in other news. . . it seems that grunge is making a come back. alice in chains is back together bout to go on tour and into the studio. green river and dinosaur jr. is getting back together. i hope that grunge comes back and does the same to emo/punk that it did to hair metal and snap all these kids out of there Mtv commas.
- god save the scene
Hate to break it to you, but Taking Back Sunday arent emo and neither is Fal out Boy. TBS Is 99999 times better than Slayer any day. I'd even venture to say that Fall out Boy is better than slayer.

To all those who listened to the album and gave it a fair comment, well done.
I've been a fan from the start, from TTTYG right up to IOH, and Infinity On High was probably my favourite of the lot (which seems to leave me in a minority against all the TTTYG loving ex-FOB fans).
This album has some great songs. Sure it's more pop than even IOH, but they're developing as a band and this is a good record. Some of the collaborations work, others don't. Some of the production is a little too grandiose for my liking too.
But overall, a good album. And definitely a grower. I'd recommend all FOB fans to get this, regardless of which of their back catalogue is their favourite. The last two songs on the album - 20 Dollar Nose Bleed and West Coast Smoker - are just fantastic.

I find that to be pretty harsh but I realise that they are very controversial and a lot of people passionately hate them I am a die-hard fan and like all of their stuff, early and new.
I guess the people that hate them wont change, and the people that love them wont change either.
I haven't got it yet but from what I have heard of it, I love it.
xD

HELLAWAITS88 wrote:
jtalep:
There are other bands around with way more talent but not as well heard of and it sucks.
SO true dude...and it's because some music appeals to very simple minded, stupid, people (or teenage girls), that don't know (or know yet) what good music is...and yes it sucks that there are so many dumb asses out there.

Woah there dude.... don't you think it's a LITTLE closed minded to call someone "stupid" because they like a certain kind of music?

I actually like Take this to your grave and From under the cork tree and think they kinda went downhill from there. Infinity on high had some alright tracks and so did this new one, but nothing that beats the older imo..

MasterExploder0 wrote:
QuantumMechanix wrote:
Slayer 101 wrote:
god i hate emo music. always the same old recycled taking back sunday riffs and like the same 4 power chords. but in other news. . . it seems that grunge is making a come back. alice in chains is back together bout to go on tour and into the studio. green river and dinosaur jr. is getting back together. i hope that grunge comes back and does the same to emo/punk that it did to hair metal and snap all these kids out of there Mtv commas.
- god save the scene
Hate to break it to you, but Taking Back Sunday arent emo and neither is Fal out Boy. TBS Is 99999 times better than Slayer any day. I'd even venture to say that Fall out Boy is better than slayer.
Sorry bro but TBS IS emo (Idt FOB really is) and there's no way in hell they're better than Slayer. I don't even like Slayer but they're better in every way compared to bands like TBS.

Moss Icon is emo, Taking Back Sunday isn't. Do both bands sound alike? No, because they belong to different genres. TBS is just pop-punk.

anywho, future generations will make fun of the 2000s, just as we make fun of the 80s, for some of the really AWFUL styles and music that emerged from the eras. the only difference the guitar players in the 80s had talent. future generations wont know what we were thinking, and neither will we. the 2000s is definitely a low in music, thanks to bands like FOB. god save us.

Wouldn't that be nickleback?
Seriously, no one is going to change anyone's opinions. Let the obsessed "I love my one genre and anything else sucks" people stay in their one genre.

I, too, will be one of the few people with the balls to say I like this album. Yes, it has flaws, but overall I like it. What I find ridiculous are those who put down others for liking this type of music. It's ridiculous. Sorry that I'm not hardcore metal and wear my hair down my back like a woman.

I can't say that i like it. I Though that take this to your grave was decent, nothing special but not horrible. I really can't stand this album but i get that some of you guys can like this.
Also, the pedobear cover is pretty damn amazing lol

Kevy Absolution wrote:
Sorry that I'm not hardcore metal and wear my hair down my back like a woman.

of course youre not hardcore metal. thats a kind of music.
if you dont like wearing your hair down your back like a woman, then why do you like listening to men who sound like them?
in all seriousness, call zakk wylde a woman. hes a real woman huh?

Im listened to this music and thought it was okay. I can imagine it getting obnoxious after a while. Plus the whole tight jeans high and whiny voice gets on my nerves. Im gonna go listen to some Who and PJ. I did like their cover with John Mayer, and their original sound. Oh well, bands get different.(Please dont insult me Just my opninion)

i like fall out boy generally i think their lyrics are interesting and Patrick's voice is superb. I've only listened to this album full through a few times, and so far, suffice to say i'm a little disappointed with it.
I feel like they are trying maybe a little too much to change their sound each album instead of writing the songs that come to them.

Ok, give the guys a break! it seems like nothing they do is right! I really love this album. Yes, it may be "over-produced" and too show offish, but they seem really sincere about insisting that they are trying really hard to produce music that is true to themselves and still enjoyable for their fans. That coupled with the recent article by Patrick Stump in the new york times about him never wanting to be famous and being completley okay with pete taking the fame and credit for fall out boy almost made me cry. They are trying so hard to please everyone, and yes their sound has changed from the hardcore screamo they used to do, but everyone changes, and they are still really great musicians. I am not ashamed to say that I love this album!

Noticed and lol'd.
Also i'm under the impression fall out boy don't necessarily write their own material. They are essentaily a pop act and producers always play a big part in a pop act's direction and the song writing process. Whats was big when there first couple big songs came out? Good Charlotte and stuff? and now? Dance and club music. so this "turn" really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
Also with that said, hazing them in comments would be like hazing backstreet boys or nsync. it's just a boy band with guitars, so don't take it so serious.

Ok, I don't mind this album, at least it's not britney spears ect. That doesn't make me a pete wentz fanboy either. Damn, I like everything from Slipknot to Queen.
So what if they don't have artistic integrity anymore, if that's the direction they ant to go in, then why should we complain?
To be honest, most of the people here will probably be downloading it free anyway, so why complain just because you don't like it, don't post in the first place. And stop arguing on messageboards ffs, I am definetly not coming back to this review.

I liked most of the hits on Cork Tree, but not much else. I find this album to be overproduced, none of it sounds "organic," very digital and produced. Also, how many different vocal tracks did Stump record per song? I like his voice, once, not in a 5 person chorus.

Great Review. I totally agree with everything you said. Nobody can deny Fall Out Boy's ability to pull out a hook filled pop-punk song. Even if you dont like the band you have to give them that.
The lyrics and singing are fine but they get watered down by huge overproduction on the melody.

xxhardlovexx wrote:
ok i dont have time to read all the comments dissing fall out boy, but i thought folie a deux was AMAZING. if u really hate fall out boy this much, and you cant stand them, why are you here

Guitar_Hero90 wrote:
you know you guys don't have to listen to them
though i don't condone their existence
but still find something new to complain about

Actually we can't help it. We're forced to listen to this crap at work on the radio at least we can get our frustrations out here. How do people like this group? Do any of you people here who like this band have any decent guitar skills?

Why does this website even bother posting reviews for albums like this? People here are so biased against the genre that there's no chance of an honest review (Note how the reviewer pretty clearly says the vocals and lyrics are really good, but only gives them a 7 compared to the 6's he gives elsewhere).

Deezlink wrote:
if you dont like wearing your hair down your back like a woman, then why do you like listening to men who sound like them?
in all seriousness, call zakk wylde a woman. hes a real woman huh?
Seriously, I love how people react when the argument starts to insult their interests.
Nice save man. Obviously Fall Out Boy is a group of all woman because you don't like them.

first of all, you need to improve your reading skills.
i never said they were women, i said they SOUND like em. and before he insults wearing long hair and calling it a woman-like, he needs to make sure theres nothing sexist we can say back, ie, the singer from FOB sounding like a girl[the music he listens to], and wentz being a total dildo[have you seen his sig bass?!].
so before you try to judge me, actually read what your commenting on. youre not clever.

i think that fall out boy should return to their olod stuff. i know it sounds cliche but it is so much better than this crap. i don't know how many of you have heard this new album but it is not so good. if they, actually just pete wentz, just stopped worrying about how much silly little girls liked him and wrote nice catchy pop punk songs like grand theft autumn the silly little girls will still like them. fall out boy is a good band in a poor state of mind.

as much as older fall out boy fans want to the band to make another pop-punk album, i'm sure fall out boy themselves grew tired of pop-punk a long time ago. and they're the ones making the music, not the fans, so complaining about it is a waste of time. because fall out boy can do whatever they want, and pop-punk is not what they want right now.

fall out boy have sunk so far since 2003 that i dont think theyll ever return. every song on here sounds the same, and when i thought they couldnt get any worse than infinity on high, they did.... at least cork tree had some originality, i think if they mixed futct and tttyg we'd have a great record

The album is not good at all (in my opinion).
FOB had something before, now they're throwing it away for i don't know what.
Patrick has a awsm voice, some of the music is great, texts are good, but when you put them together they don't sound good.
Infinity on High was better, in my opinion. (more Emo, but still had some sound to it as a whole album).
Here it's like they've picked up random songs and burned them.
Whatever 6, just cuz i listen to them sometimes.

I like lots of music. FOB makes some good music. Metal is good, punk is good, (some) pop is good, Ska is the best, classic rock is good, 80s music is good, soul music is good, funk music is good, classic music is good. People are so silly. Why do the people that don't like Fall Out Boy invest so much time reading reviews and commenting relentlessly to people that had intelligent things to say. FYI this review is exactly right. WAY overproduced and with any luck they will fade off a little bit and return to their former sound a bit. I know my favorite band of all time had a few records that were kinda sell-out/pop ish (Less Than Jake) but then they came back when people didn't like it and made a new record that kicks all kinds of ass. Intelligent, open-minded people will think highly of the 2000s music because there really are some amazing things happening. This isn't necessarily one of them but thats life. You try things and you don't know if it will be successful until you do. Don't be a hater.

xxhardlovexx wrote:
ok i dont have time to read all the comments dissing fall out boy, but i thought folie a deux was AMAZING. if u really hate fall out boy this much, and you cant stand them, why are you here

Don't think anyone reading this review really do hate the band...
I reckon it's mostly filled with those who liked the first three albums and hated the newer ones...
I for one, didn't like the new album due to the fact that it really isn't catchy anymore which is their main selling point...
But kudos to them for writing more interesting lyrics than IOH (which was catchy but lacked lyrical creativity)...

um, they are just following their musical progression- theres only so much you can squeeze out of one genre. Plus Patrick once said that he always wanted to sing RnB... put it this way, all bands progress musicaly. I mean, look what happened to the killers from their first to second album... and dare i say it, bands that don't, fade away into nothing... Oasis move around in a circle so much that you never know when their songs were written...

if they wanted maximum commercial success, don't you think they'd stick to the formula that's worked for them all these years? patrick stumph is the genius behind the band and i'm sure he's bored with power chords.
he's stuck in a band that's labeled pop and his bass player is a pre-madonna (or pete-madonna if you will)
it's not that bad for a solo project which is basically what it is. should be called patrick stumph and friends.

this is hysterical because i was at their show last night and they basically said that they're just doing what they like and hoping that they piss everyone who hates them off.
they love all the sh*t talking everyone does about them, grow up

if these are your comebacks then you really need to grow up. if fall out boy has changed that much why do you even bother to listen to their recent cds? maybe theyre not what they used to be but you arent doing anything by telling us how great they used to be and how much they suck now. i never told people to read my 'review' and i never told people to comment on it. your opinion quit judging mine.

Actually we can't help it. We're forced to listen to this crap at work on the radio at least we can get our frustrations out here. How do people like this group? Do any of you people here who like this band have any decent guitar skills?
I really like fall out boy, and im the best non metal guitarist in my year at school.(3/4th best overall) i can enjoy the music without it being over the top guitar music, in my opinion its vocals first, then guitar. i wouldnt listen to a song without a nice melody.

I understand that the and has changed since Take This To Your Grave, but times and music have changed. Plus it is very difficult to write the same kinds of songs over and over. That would be so boring. When you are writing music, whatever happens, happens, they should be pruod of themselves because they have taken a turn in their music. On Folie A Deux, Fall Out Boy seems to have grown up. So, if you dont have anything good to say about this album, dont post a comment. None wants to hear your bullshit of how the band WAS great and now SUCK. They don't. Plus, they have already made millions of dollars more than you have. So, shut the **** up about how you don't like Fall Out Boy.

Im sorry, but the fact that FOB is such a sell-out band just totally kills it for me. I mean, Take this to your grave was a bit of a hard act to follow but this band kills themselves with their obvious decrease in punk-pop to an almost totally pop feel.
They are just digging their grave deeper.

I know it's like throwing yourself to the lions these days, but I like FOB if not just for the fact that they have some damn catchy songs. commercial or not, take this to you grave is one of the best cds out there, the songs where alot harder (if terms of fall out boy, im not trying to compare them to any metalcore or anything) pete wentz was writing good lyrics and belting out some pretty decent screams while Stump was singing. The bass lines have always been basic and the guitar rifts have always been good and memorable. They have definitely softened up since under the cork tree and I was disappointed after listening to this album; especially after I thought that they might try and go back to their "take this to your grave" roots. But you have to respect the fact that if nothing else, they are out there making music and trying to reinvent their sound.

the ug team review by carlos was so ****ing racist. a rap by lil wayne? did you actually listen to the album? cos i recall him singing NOT RAPPING! oh, he's black, so he must be rapping! yeah man, lightspeed champion is some awesome hip-hop! and bloc party are some mean gangsta rap! bloody fools.

OKAY! I just set up a whole stupid account with this site just so I could stick up for Fall Out Boy.
These reviews are written by older generation people who all have their heads shoved up the pious rear ends of the arrogant, talentless fools that form bands like Led Zeppelin and Metallica. And all you metalheads are just a bunch of heartless, Godless, porn addicts with hideous greasy hair and obviously a skewed brain that allows you listen to crap like Lamb of God or Killswitch.
K so now that I've bashed YOU, let me tell you all about Fall Out Boy.
Fall Out Boy is one of the best bands ever formed on the face of this earth. NOT because they're amazing musicians. But because their music is filled to the brim with beautiful nostalgia and a version of teenage angst that has some intelligence to it and never turns to actual darkness. I love Fall Out Boy because they understand and depict every emotion I've ever felt, good or bad. They make the good better and the bad feel like it's going to be okay. I would not be the person I am today without Fall Out Boy. Without Pete's unique, incredible, picturesque lyrics. I don't care that Joe Trohman doesn't (or possibly can't) bust out a wailing guitar solo like any guitarist in a metal or classic band, or that Andy doesn't blow your mind with complex time signatures. NONE OF THAT FREAKING MATTERS!!! YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE AN AMAZING MUSICIAN TO MAKE AMAZING MUSIC!!! What matters is honesty. That's it. Honesty and emotion. Fall Out Boy has more honesty than any band I've ever heard, and not to mention more intelligence, lyrically. And don't you DARE tell me that that means I haven't listened to very much music. Music has been my life, my ENTIRE Life. I've been through a phase of just about every genre, and Fall Out Boy just has something that no other band or single musician has. I can't even put my finger on it or put it into any words that would do it justice. But it is beautiful. They are simply incomparable. They have saved my life, expanded my vocabulary, inspired me to be a better person countless times, and provided me with the most priceless memories through the combination of whatever that beauty is and their amazing live shows.
And yes, they have changed their sound quite a bit since their first record, but that hasn't changed. But actually, personally I'd be more disappointed in them if they DIDN'T change. PEOPLE CHANGE, YOU IDIOTS!! I bet YOU aren't the same person you were when TTTYG came out. Neither are Fall Out Boy, and they have alot more excuse to change than you do, that's for sure.
And now I'll say a bit about Folie a Deux alone, seeing as that is the purpose for this whole thread. Folie a Deux is definitely not their best record, but then again you can't really name their best one. Because they're all amazing, with the exception of Evening Out With Your Girlfriend..that one is embarrassing. This album is just as filled with emotion and classic, clever lines to be written on notebooks and myspace pages for years and years to come, just as the 3 preceding it. The only song I really do not like on the whole thing is West Coast Smoker. I believe the album should have ended with 20 Dollar Nosebleed. 20 Dollar is probably pretty close to my favorite song, until it is ruined by that stupid dark poem leading into that horrible, screamo last track. That last song just left the record with a dark feeling, which is not FOB at all. I actually hated that song so much, I unchecked it when I imported the CD into my iTunes. I then proceeded to stick 20 Dollar into Garageband and cut off the poem, then burn the cd anew with 20 Dollar as the last track. All FOB's albums have a different unique sound, bringing new beauty and credulity to their name. This record is no exception.
If you don't like Fall Out Boy, you either don't have a soul, you're old, or your ears are broken. The end.
Sincerely
A dedicated Fall Out Boy fan

Slayer 101 wrote:
god i hate emo music. always the same old recycled taking back sunday riffs and like the same 4 power chords. but in other news. . . it seems that grunge is making a come back. alice in chains is back together bout to go on tour and into the studio. green river and dinosaur jr. is getting back together. i hope that grunge comes back and does the same to emo/punk that it did to hair metal and snap all these kids out of there Mtv commas.
- god save the scene

The thing this doesn't realize that grunge uses the exact same 4 chords.

The review is alrite and I really can understand the whole over production stuff it's talking about.
But just because Fall Out Boy's last two haven't been their best doesn't mean that can't change.
In my opinion Take This To Your Grave will always be their best album, and yes it's even better than From Under The Cork Tree.
People complain about Wentz being such an attention hog, but without him I don't think the band would have attracted such a following albiet its a crowd mostly of girls my age.
And the fact that Wentz's writing is starting to irritate me, and that he really needs to stop looking at Brendon Urie's songbook can really be overlooked with the fact that Patrick Stump is probably one of the best singers of all time imo.
What I'm trying to say is that while Folie a Deux is definetly not their best album, don't count them out yet.
Maybe they'll look around the web and see we want another Grand Theft Autumn or Chicago is Two Years ago.

mitch311 wrote:
Do any of you people here who like this band have any decent guitar skills?

Well, I love Fall Out Boy and I'm going to Music college next year. So I'd think I was okay.
But seriously, FOB aren't everyone's taste, I used to hate them but then I grew up a little bit and realised there's more to good music than shredding, long hair and tattoos.

Captain315 wrote:
OKAY! I just set up a whole stupid account with this site just so I could stick up for Fall Out Boy.
These reviews are written by older generation people who all have their heads shoved up the pious rear ends of the arrogant, talentless fools that form bands like Led Zeppelin and Metallica. And all you metalheads are just a bunch of heartless, Godless, porn addicts with hideous greasy hair and obviously a skewed brain that allows you listen to crap like Lamb of God or Killswitch.
K so now that I've bashed YOU, let me tell you all about Fall Out Boy.
Fall Out Boy is one of the best bands ever formed on the face of this earth. NOT because they're amazing musicians. But because their music is filled to the brim with beautiful nostalgia and a version of teenage angst that has some intelligence to it and never turns to actual darkness. I love Fall Out Boy because they understand and depict every emotion I've ever felt, good or bad. They make the good better and the bad feel like it's going to be okay. I would not be the person I am today without Fall Out Boy. Without Pete's unique, incredible, picturesque lyrics. I don't care that Joe Trohman doesn't (or possibly can't) bust out a wailing guitar solo like any guitarist in a metal or classic band, or that Andy doesn't blow your mind with complex time signatures. NONE OF THAT FREAKING MATTERS!!! YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE AN AMAZING MUSICIAN TO MAKE AMAZING MUSIC!!! What matters is honesty. That's it. Honesty and emotion. Fall Out Boy has more honesty than any band I've ever heard, and not to mention more intelligence, lyrically. And don't you DARE tell me that that means I haven't listened to very much music. Music has been my life, my ENTIRE Life. I've been through a phase of just about every genre, and Fall Out Boy just has something that no other band or single musician has. I can't even put my finger on it or put it into any words that would do it justice. But it is beautiful. They are simply incomparable. They have saved my life, expanded my vocabulary, inspired me to be a better person countless times, and provided me with the most priceless memories through the combination of whatever that beauty is and their amazing live shows.
And yes, they have changed their sound quite a bit since their first record, but that hasn't changed. But actually, personally I'd be more disappointed in them if they DIDN'T change. PEOPLE CHANGE, YOU IDIOTS!! I bet YOU aren't the same person you were when TTTYG came out. Neither are Fall Out Boy, and they have alot more excuse to change than you do, that's for sure.
And now I'll say a bit about Folie a Deux alone, seeing as that is the purpose for this whole thread. Folie a Deux is definitely not their best record, but then again you can't really name their best one. Because they're all amazing, with the exception of Evening Out With Your Girlfriend..that one is embarrassing. This album is just as filled with emotion and classic, clever lines to be written on notebooks and myspace pages for years and years to come, just as the 3 preceding it. The only song I really do not like on the whole thing is West Coast Smoker. I believe the album should have ended with 20 Dollar Nosebleed. 20 Dollar is probably pretty close to my favorite song, until it is ruined by that stupid dark poem leading into that horrible, screamo last track. That last song just left the record with a dark feeling, which is not FOB at all. I actually hated that song so much, I unchecked it when I imported the CD into my iTunes. I then proceeded to stick 20 Dollar into Garageband and cut off the poem, then burn the cd anew with 20 Dollar as the last track. All FOB's albums have a different unique sound, bringing new beauty and credulity to their name. This record is no exception.
If you don't like Fall Out Boy, you either don't have a soul, you're old, or your ears are broken. The end.
Sincerely
A dedicated Fall Out Boy fan

Seriously people... Stop hating Fall Out Boy... They are actually famous, and as much as anyone may hate it, they have a career. Find one, become famous, not everyone's gonna like you... Fall Out Boy's just the one we all love to hate.

Seriously Captain 315 get with it...I do like fall out boy their older stuff better than their newer stuff but you rlly dont have tell the world your obsessive and idiotic love for Pete and the gang. I dont mean to bash but seriously "YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE AN AMAZING MUSICIAN TO MAKE AMAZING MUSIC!!!" that is ridiculous. and when you say they play with honesty and emotion maybe they did in Take This To Your Grave and possibly From Under The Cork Tree but now all pete wentz is worried about is buying the right shade of eyeliner and being with his Wifey.With that said, Patrick Stump has probably the best range of any singer that i've heard in this geneeration. And although FOB is commercialized and spend more time in photo shoots and looking at thmselves in the mirror than tryning to make deep meaningful music, they make entertaining music. This def aint their best album but its okay.

ryanglaspell wrote:
Seriously Captain 315 get with it...I do like fall out boy their older stuff better than their newer stuff but you rlly dont have tell the world your obsessive and idiotic love for Pete and the gang. I dont mean to bash but seriously "YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE AN AMAZING MUSICIAN TO MAKE AMAZING MUSIC!!!" that is ridiculous. and when you say they play with honesty and emotion maybe they did in Take This To Your Grave and possibly From Under The Cork Tree but now all pete wentz is worried about is buying the right shade of eyeliner and being with his Wifey.With that said, Patrick Stump has probably the best range of any singer that i've heard in this geneeration. And although FOB is commercialized and spend more time in photo shoots and looking at thmselves in the mirror than tryning to make deep meaningful music, they make entertaining music. This def aint their best album but its okay.

well i guess we can all hate pete because he wants to spend time with his wife and baby. my bad i didnt know that was a crime. do u REALLY know how much time they spend looking at themselves in the mirror because u make it sound like u kno their ENTIRE LIVES. ryanglaspell ur a hypocrite, claiming u like to listen to "honesty and emotion" when u have NONE. y'all folks out thurr bettar lissen to this dude who dont appreciate amazin' music, aint that right?

ok, i've been a fob fan for a long time, and i think this is a great album. i do agree that some of the composure is a bit crammed (a lot of the compossure), but this album kicks ass. the first 7 tracks are all a 10. the collaboration with brendon urie was excellent, and i enjoyed Debbie Harry on west coast smoker. fob is awesome.

I love FOB and this is my favorite album from them. Doesn't make me a bad musician either, I wish I was half the musician Patrick is though. He has an amazing range, that I would kill for. You all can hate on them all you want, but it just makes you look sad that you would just waste your time posting derogatory comments on an internet forum instead of actually doing something about it. Not all pop music is bad, hell most of Patrick's influences are talented as well. So if you think your so much better the Fall Out Boy, prove it. Me on the other hand, I'm going to go listen to my new favorite album and try to make myself a better musician.

Personally, I love this album. Does that make me stupid? Does that mean I have bad taste? No, I don't think it does. It means I'm entitled to like what I like (which is practically everything from Tupac to the Beatles and all the in-betweens), and so I should. Actually, songs like Tiffany Blews make me respect musicians more. Good on them for taking a risk, good on them for attempting to intergrate music. If we want to 'go there', I think Aerosmith and Run DMC tried it back in the day, too.
Either way, whether they brought out TTTYG#2 or FAD, people just wouldn't be happy. For the former, it would be "THEY HAVEN'T GROWN, THEY HAVEN'T IMPROVED, ALL THEIR SONGS SOUND THE SAME, HE'S A 20+ YEAR OLD MARRIED MAN STILL ANGSTING ABOUT THE HOMECOMING DANCE, WHAT?!" (just roll that over in your mind for a moment, because it is pretty ridiculous), and for the latter.. well, need I say more than what has already been said? People don't seem to realise that they've dug Fall Out Boy into a hole where they really can't do anything without being slandered. Well, in my humble opinion, they shouldn't need to go out of their way to impress and make hits for us. Who are we to say "They shouldn't have tried that" or "That song sucks, it shouldn't have been released" or "I want another Grand Theft Autumn"? It's their lives, their job, their music, and - in the end - their satisfaction. Our satisfaction - or lack, thereof - should just be an added bonus. That should apply to all musicians; I don't think they should ever be limited to what they think we want. Just because they're famous doesn't mean they should have to change the approach they took to music when they were sitting in their bedroom, after school, learning tabs off the internet.
If an artist painted only for the sake of the gallery, showed no growth and didn't dare to mix paints with pastels or charcoal, how would we look at them? Music is art, to me - abstract or realism, it's still art, and everyone is entitled to artistic merit .
Hate it or love it - I just so happen to love it.
By the way, I'm a teenaged girl. Stop with the stereotypes, they're really getting old.

Mimza wrote:
Personally, I love this album. Does that make me stupid? Does that mean I have bad taste? No, I don't think it does. It means I'm entitled to like what I like (which is practically everything from Tupac to the Beatles and all the in-betweens), and so I should. Actually, songs like Tiffany Blews make me respect musicians more. Good on them for taking a risk, good on them for attempting to intergrate music. If we want to 'go there', I think Aerosmith and Run DMC tried it back in the day, too.
Either way, whether they brought out TTTYG#2 or FAD, people just wouldn't be happy. For the former, it would be "THEY HAVEN'T GROWN, THEY HAVEN'T IMPROVED, ALL THEIR SONGS SOUND THE SAME, HE'S A 20+ YEAR OLD MARRIED MAN STILL ANGSTING ABOUT THE HOMECOMING DANCE, WHAT?!" (just roll that over in your mind for a moment, because it is pretty ridiculous), and for the latter.. well, need I say more than what has already been said? People don't seem to realise that they've dug Fall Out Boy into a hole where they really can't do anything without being slandered. Well, in my humble opinion, they shouldn't need to go out of their way to impress and make hits for us. Who are we to say "They shouldn't have tried that" or "That song sucks, it shouldn't have been released" or "I want another Grand Theft Autumn"? It's their lives, their job, their music, and - in the end - their satisfaction. Our satisfaction - or lack, thereof - should just be an added bonus. That should apply to all musicians; I don't think they should ever be limited to what they think we want. Just because they're famous doesn't mean they should have to change the approach they took to music when they were sitting in their bedroom, after school, learning tabs off the internet.
If an artist painted only for the sake of the gallery, showed no growth and didn't dare to mix paints with pastels or charcoal, how would we look at them? Music is art, to me - abstract or realism, it's still art, and everyone is entitled to artistic merit.
Hate it or love it - I just so happen to love it.
By the way, I'm a teenaged girl. Stop with the stereotypes, they're really getting old.

actually, all the things you listed first are what you are, for paying money for THIS FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT. i like some pop punk bands, and this i didnt even have the grace of buying. i would download this off the internet illegally 7 times and then delete it it sucks so much. the fact that theyre all pretentious fags also adds up to the truth that they suck, and the fact is, they do write about "ANGSTING ABOUT THE HIGHSCHOOL DANCE." their song writing skills add up to about a pile of cow feces.

The Sound of the songs of this album are good, and i don't find any difference between this album and their third (From Under the Cork Tree) and the fourth (Infinity on High).
But I Still say that in despite of they are getting older, they should make a album that sounds like their first 2 albums.

I think that people have to understand that Fall Out Boy are only bashed so much because of their bass player Pete Wentz. I personally am a fan of Fall Out Boy, and i love their stuff, but even i realize that Pete Wentz has become nothing other than a press pleaser. He gets by on his good looks and his army of teenage fans. His bass playing ability isn't the best, but thats no reason for the rest of the band to be bashed. They are a bunch of skilled musicians, they are only being dragged down by wentz. I think the albums great, but hey thats just my opinion.

Captain315 wrote:
OKAY! I just set up a whole stupid account with this site just so I could stick up for Fall Out Boy.
These reviews are written by older generation people who all have their heads shoved up the pious rear ends of the arrogant, talentless fools that form bands like Led Zeppelin and Metallica. And all you metalheads are just a bunch of heartless, Godless, porn addicts with hideous greasy hair and obviously a skewed brain that allows you listen to crap like Lamb of God or Killswitch.
K so now that I've bashed YOU, let me tell you all about Fall Out Boy.
Fall Out Boy is one of the best bands ever formed on the face of this earth. NOT because they're amazing musicians. But because their music is filled to the brim with beautiful nostalgia and a version of teenage angst that has some intelligence to it and never turns to actual darkness. I love Fall Out Boy because they understand and depict every emotion I've ever felt, good or bad. They make the good better and the bad feel like it's going to be okay. I would not be the person I am today without Fall Out Boy. Without Pete's unique, incredible, picturesque lyrics. I don't care that Joe Trohman doesn't (or possibly can't) bust out a wailing guitar solo like any guitarist in a metal or classic band, or that Andy doesn't blow your mind with complex time signatures. NONE OF THAT FREAKING MATTERS!!! YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE AN AMAZING MUSICIAN TO MAKE AMAZING MUSIC!!! What matters is honesty. That's it. Honesty and emotion. Fall Out Boy has more honesty than any band I've ever heard, and not to mention more intelligence, lyrically. And don't you DARE tell me that that means I haven't listened to very much music. Music has been my life, my ENTIRE Life. I've been through a phase of just about every genre, and Fall Out Boy just has something that no other band or single musician has. I can't even put my finger on it or put it into any words that would do it justice. But it is beautiful. They are simply incomparable. They have saved my life, expanded my vocabulary, inspired me to be a better person countless times, and provided me with the most priceless memories through the combination of whatever that beauty is and their amazing live shows.
And yes, they have changed their sound quite a bit since their first record, but that hasn't changed. But actually, personally I'd be more disappointed in them if they DIDN'T change. PEOPLE CHANGE, YOU IDIOTS!! I bet YOU aren't the same person you were when TTTYG came out. Neither are Fall Out Boy, and they have alot more excuse to change than you do, that's for sure.
And now I'll say a bit about Folie a Deux alone, seeing as that is the purpose for this whole thread. Folie a Deux is definitely not their best record, but then again you can't really name their best one. Because they're all amazing, with the exception of Evening Out With Your Girlfriend..that one is embarrassing. This album is just as filled with emotion and classic, clever lines to be written on notebooks and myspace pages for years and years to come, just as the 3 preceding it. The only song I really do not like on the whole thing is West Coast Smoker. I believe the album should have ended with 20 Dollar Nosebleed. 20 Dollar is probably pretty close to my favorite song, until it is ruined by that stupid dark poem leading into that horrible, screamo last track. That last song just left the record with a dark feeling, which is not FOB at all. I actually hated that song so much, I unchecked it when I imported the CD into my iTunes. I then proceeded to stick 20 Dollar into Garageband and cut off the poem, then burn the cd anew with 20 Dollar as the last track. All FOB's albums have a different unique sound, bringing new beauty and credulity to their name. This record is no exception.
If you don't like Fall Out Boy, you either don't have a soul, you're old, or your ears are broken. The end.
Sincerely
A dedicated Fall Out Boy fan
ok. first of all. just because im slayer 101 dosent mean im a metal nazi. i do love metal. but i also love alot of different music. but if you wanna talk stereotypes, alot of these reveiws are written by brainless, talentless, respectless, "wanna be punk" emo kids who would call teenage angst the feeling they get when hot topic runs out skin tight pant or when mommy and daddy cant give them a ride to get there 70$ flock of sea gulls haircut. and im talking about you too captin. and if you think zepplin and mettalica are talentless fools go read one of their reveiws and see how much negative bull shit ppls posted on there then compair it to the negative shit ppl say about this emo crap. and teenage angst is dark. its a blind fury and isnt supposed to be nostalgic and intellegant. and no. im not an old pissed off metal head. im a 17 year old boy surrounded by self rightous emos and im sick of it. bands like zepplin and mettalica have forgotten more about music than fob will ever come close to learning.
- One love

this record is catchy and very different., whose to say FOB can't explore new influences. the vocals contribute to the fact that patrick is a really great singer that can extend to other musical fields. pete i will say, isn't the best bassist around. his lines are fairly simple and he's admitted to never using anything hard orcomplicated. Andy is just an awesome drummer. enough said. and the guitars? sure they're not as loud or pro mixed/produced but this is po/punk music. it doesn't need to be hard or complex. pop/punk music is about catchy melodies and contrafacts, not have extreme notes.

i think this albums quite good. not there best but definitely better than infinity on high. and for everyone who wants another TTTYG ive heard all there albums and i think From Under the Cork Tree is their best one. i also like fall out boy AND scream-o so stop arguing.
ps. why are there so many hate comments here? if you don't like the band then don't listen to their music or read their reviews.

[quote]st jimmy666 wrote:
i think this albums quite good. not there best but definitely better than infinity on high. and for everyone who wants another TTTYG ive heard all there albums and i think From Under the Cork Tree is their best one.
i agree with you 100%! finally someone else who likes the album. yeah, it has a huge production sound but that doesn't mean it's bad or too much of a "sell out" to be any good. it's original, catchy, and has awesome lyrics. infinity was my least favorite of their albums (not just b/c their image) but cork tree's still my favorite. i never stopped listening to it the first week it came out thinking "they're gonna be huge." unfortunately i was too right. and take this to your grave was really good too but i like folie a duex better.

I love this band. they have the most clever lyrics and stumps voice is amazing. it just kills me to watch them make everyone hate them because they over produce theyre songs WAY too much. be as poppy as you want, please just no more orchestra music like on

Captain315 wrote:
If you don't like Fall Out Boy, you either don't have a soul, you're old, or your ears are broken. The end.
Sincerely
A dedicated Fall Out Boy fan

Lets see. I Hate Fall Out Boy, i have a soul, im 18 years old, and my hearing is just fine. since you appear to be so open minded about crappy music maybe you should try to understand that you might just be an idiot

Captain315 wrote:
OKAY! I just set up a whole stupid account with this site just so I could stick up for Fall Out Boy.
These reviews are written by older generation people who all have their heads shoved up the pious rear ends of the arrogant, talentless fools that form bands like Led Zeppelin and Metallica. And all you metalheads are just a bunch of heartless, Godless, porn addicts with hideous greasy hair and obviously a skewed brain that allows you listen to crap like Lamb of God or Killswitch.
K so now that I've bashed YOU, let me tell you all about Fall Out Boy.
Fall Out Boy is one of the best bands ever formed on the face of this earth. NOT because they're amazing musicians. But because their music is filled to the brim with beautiful nostalgia and a version of teenage angst that has some intelligence to it and never turns to actual darkness. I love Fall Out Boy because they understand and depict every emotion I've ever felt, good or bad. They make the good better and the bad feel like it's going to be okay. I would not be the person I am today without Fall Out Boy. Without Pete's unique, incredible, picturesque lyrics. I don't care that Joe Trohman doesn't (or possibly can't) bust out a wailing guitar solo like any guitarist in a metal or classic band, or that Andy doesn't blow your mind with complex time signatures. NONE OF THAT FREAKING MATTERS!!! YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE AN AMAZING MUSICIAN TO MAKE AMAZING MUSIC!!! What matters is honesty. That's it. Honesty and emotion. Fall Out Boy has more honesty than any band I've ever heard, and not to mention more intelligence, lyrically. And don't you DARE tell me that that means I haven't listened to very much music. Music has been my life, my ENTIRE Life. I've been through a phase of just about every genre, and Fall Out Boy just has something that no other band or single musician has. I can't even put my finger on it or put it into any words that would do it justice. But it is beautiful. They are simply incomparable. They have saved my life, expanded my vocabulary, inspired me to be a better person countless times, and provided me with the most priceless memories through the combination of whatever that beauty is and their amazing live shows.
And yes, they have changed their sound quite a bit since their first record, but that hasn't changed. But actually, personally I'd be more disappointed in them if they DIDN'T change. PEOPLE CHANGE, YOU IDIOTS!! I bet YOU aren't the same person you were when TTTYG came out. Neither are Fall Out Boy, and they have alot more excuse to change than you do, that's for sure.
And now I'll say a bit about Folie a Deux alone, seeing as that is the purpose for this whole thread. Folie a Deux is definitely not their best record, but then again you can't really name their best one. Because they're all amazing, with the exception of Evening Out With Your Girlfriend..that one is embarrassing. This album is just as filled with emotion and classic, clever lines to be written on notebooks and myspace pages for years and years to come, just as the 3 preceding it. The only song I really do not like on the whole thing is West Coast Smoker. I believe the album should have ended with 20 Dollar Nosebleed. 20 Dollar is probably pretty close to my favorite song, until it is ruined by that stupid dark poem leading into that horrible, screamo last track. That last song just left the record with a dark feeling, which is not FOB at all. I actually hated that song so much, I unchecked it when I imported the CD into my iTunes. I then proceeded to stick 20 Dollar into Garageband and cut off the poem, then burn the cd anew with 20 Dollar as the last track. All FOB's albums have a different unique sound, bringing new beauty and credulity to their name. This record is no exception.
If you don't like Fall Out Boy, you either don't have a soul, you're old, or your ears are broken. The end.
Sincerely
A dedicated Fall Out Boy fan

i like fall out boy to, but thats NOT the way to react to people who think they suck. Why even care, sticking up for fall out boy is the same as trowing buckets of water in the sea. It has no effect. just drop it.

MusicMan24 wrote:
FALL OUT BOY IS ONE OF THE BEST BANDS OF THE 21ST CENTURY, SO ALL YOU JACKASSES WHO SAY THEY SUCK AND SHIT, WHY DON'T YOU ALL SCREW YOURSELVES CUZ JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THE MUSIC DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO INSULT IT.

We aren't insulting it, we're just telling the truth, their a mainstream pop punk band without talent, its the truth.

Okay need a rant here- first of all I love the album and I love Fall Out Boy- but thats an opinion. If the band or the album isn't your thing, then fine, but some people are just ridiculous.
First of all to all you 'why can't they go back to their roots?' people, bands and music change I'm afraid. I love TTTYG- quality album- but why the hell would you want another 3 that sound exactly the same? People need to grow up, pretty much every band I like I got into when they were already famous, I've got no problem with that. It's pretty pathetic to think a band should do everything your way just because you heard them first.
Secondly- to all the FOB haters. As i said before, if you don't like the band that's your opinion, but reasons such as 'they're gay' and 'only teenage girls like them' are neither valid nor true to be honest. Oh yeah, and there's more to life than Machine Head and Slayer by the way. So be a bit more open minded.
And if these points points have already been made, I apologise, to be honest I couldn't be arsed to read every childish comment on here.

First of all to all you 'why can't they go back to their roots?' people, bands and music change I'm afraid. I love TTTYG- quality album- but why the hell would you want another 3 that sound exactly the same?
I agree with you but TTTYG isnt there roots at all.They released Evening Out With Your Girlfriend before that which i think was better than TTTYG.

Seriously people, you generalise teenage girls too much!!!!!
Some of us acyually appreciate their music!
Some of us don't go for the actual band, just the music!
Think about all thos girls that listen to FOB, then get to know them! Jeez! Not every teenage girlis shallow and ditzy!
Some of us are music enthusiasts!

i like alot of this album, i admit, some of the writing is not at all wentz's best, his life situation has changed and we cant expect his writing to stay the same, thats not how a writer works, thats not how an artist of any kind works, hes married so dont expect very good lyrics in the way of slutty girlfriends like before, (chicago is so two years ago lyrics will be missed) alot of it is however very good, (what a catch donnie, headfirst slide, pavlove(bonus track) ), stump's singing is astounding, that has stayed the same, his musical arragements for the songs are hwoever alittle inflated, there are alot of other instruments and tones in these songs that confuse the melodies and it is really dissapointing, (violins and keyboards in watch a catch donnie) they are good but it is just too much to listen to, like playing a huindred good songs all at once, just too disorganized, there are standouts to all of this and it is a good album so i advise you buy(or steal) it yourself and form your own intellegent opinion of it, there is nothing worse you could do than refuse to listen to something, hate it and not know why, it can only help you understand your own taste in music

st jimmy666 wrote:
First of all to all you 'why can't they go back to their roots?' people, bands and music change I'm afraid. I love TTTYG- quality album- but why the hell would you want another 3 that sound exactly the same?
I agree with you but TTTYG isnt there roots at all.They released Evening Out With Your Girlfriend before that which i think was better than TTTYG.

evening out with your girl was not their best, it was their first, not their best, honorable mention was good, but stump was not a very experienced music writer and it shows, sry

who talks about "sell outs", how do you pay the bills? oh you're not a musician, yeah so because you don't do what you love for a job you're not a sell out? i thought so. =)(sarcasm, a long forgotten language)

ok look just because they dont play ridiculous solos and scream except for in like 2 songs doesnt mean there not good dont get me wrong i love all of that too but come on this cd is really good, so what if its different so was blink 182 and everyone loves them. fall out boy didnt sell out they just make music that everyone can enjoy and they experiment, the real sell out bands are the ones who dont do what they enjoy, so if fall out boy enjoys what there doing let them do it, plus patrick stump has one of the best voices out there and he improves every cd, i do admit that i like there earlier stuff better like take this to your grave and from under the cork tree but i love this too so stop being so close minded, and take a second look at the lyrics very impressive, and by the way i know more people that listen to fall out boy than just about any other band, cant wait to go to there concert this weekend

by the way who ever said fall out boy is just a pop punk band with no talent dude anyone could say that about anyband like i like metallica but you could say man there just a bunch of random solos put together, no offense metallica i like your music, so if your gonna say somethin say something that means something

This album has a couple REALLY good songs on it.
"Disloyal Order of Water Buffaloes"
"I Don't Care"
"Headfirst Slide into Cooperstown on a Bad Bet"
"What a Catch, Donnie"
All A+ songs in my book. Especially the first one.

There's been alot of (whoever likes fob are teenage girls) goin around. That is very false I am a big fan and I love their music. It has lot of rhythm and good sound to it. Did anybody actually read the forum rules before making an account or just agree and continue because it says no hate posts and there's definately been a lot of hate lol. I agree with the people who say if you don't have anyhong nice to say don't say anything at all. It's not like we go rip on your favorite bands. You should be glad people listen to fob cuz if as much people listened to your bands as they do fall out boy we could be saying the same things you are saying about fob. That all who listen to em are teenage girls. Fob is music, my opinion is if you don't like fob then that's cool but I'm sure you have better things to do than hate on them. Although I just wasted like three minutes of my life lol.....

There's a lot of people saying that whoever listens to fob are teenage girls. I have to strongly dissagree I know tons of guys plus myself who love the band and personally I think they have great music. They are actually my favorite band. I agree with anyone who says if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all. I mean really we don't go hating on the bands you like. You should actually be glad fob is so popular becuase if people liked them half as much as they enjoyed fob we could be he ones saying the only reason they are popular is because they are sell outs and teenage girls are the only fans. Apparently no one reads the forum rules before making an acount because it states not to post hate comments and there's definately been a lot of hating lol. For all the haters out there why are you wasting your time rippin on fob when you could be listening to or disscussing your own bands. People just do not make any sense.

I fixed it so there are two posts that look a lot alike and as to answer your question mitch311 I have been playing guitar for about 5 years now give a few months and I do know most of their songs so I guess you could call them (decent) I don't know if you were trying to rip on fob fans or you were actually curious but that's my honest answer

I'm listening to FOB since Take This To Your Grave, and i think, that the only thing that Folie A Deux and Take This To Your Grave have in common is sarcasm in lyrics. Folie A Deux is pop. They sucked. 99% of FOB listeners prefer Infinity On High, and I'm not surprised.

guitarfreak222 wrote:
MusicMan24 wrote:
FALL OUT BOY IS ONE OF THE BEST BANDS OF THE 21ST CENTURY, SO ALL YOU JACKASSES WHO SAY THEY SUCK AND SHIT, WHY DON'T YOU ALL SCREW YOURSELVES CUZ JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THE MUSIC DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO INSULT IT.
I agree with guitar freak XD
We aren't insulting it, we're just telling the truth, their a mainstream pop punk band without talent, its the truth.

Benjibum wrote:
too true... FOB are just as capable of writing catchy-ass tunes as Billy Talent, but they drop everything for commercialism...
I just compared FOB to Billy Talent. I'll apologise to Ben and Ian while I go hang myself.