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hello people, do you know if the track "original sketchbook" was superman first entire arc? that would make some sense since other cues appear to have elements developed from it. also, any chance you guys know similar tracks in other scores?

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Hybrid Soldier

2018-08-01 13:47:46

The Sketchbook is indeed the original idea, the final version being actually called "New Superman v57" (it got edited for the OST release, but in fact the 4 minutes missing at the end of it are just the track "This Is Clark Kent", making the demo run 32 min). You pretty much have got everything in the demo, Superman, Clark Kent, Lois, Krypton...

Then, usually, Hans & his team will have a go and develop other demos based on this material. The "Earth" suite was done by Mazzaro, where he "guitar-ized" Clark's theme. Junkie basically took a part of the Krypton material of the suite and would develop "Zod & his gang / World Engine" ideas. The most interesting and unfortunately not released in any form is Atli's "Superman Theme v5.8", which develops Hans' Superman theme in a "punchy" version & really gave life to Lois theme in what would become in film the epic --Superman Saves Lois-- idea used in "Escape From Ship" & "Faora Attacks"...

mpolonest123

2018-08-01 15:11:44

“Superman Theme v5.8” Wow, that sounds amazing! I always wondered if that string theme was initially meant to represent Lois or that was just some decision by the editors.

Hybrid Soldier

2018-08-01 15:46:25

I honestly doubt it was meant to be Lois' theme in the first place. It's in the "New Superman" theme, but really as a sub thing.

Atli made it big & epic, and I guess indeed they (Hans, editors, whatever) decided "oh it sounds good for that rescue !" and de facto it became Lois' theme. I wonder if all of this was decided at the last minute, because none of the cues with the "Lois theme" appear in the soundtrack.

And that theme basically vanished in Bat V Sup, for some reason I don't know...

mpolonest123

2018-08-01 16:38:56

That’s possible, especially if the “Escape From Ship” cue was actually a last minute piece.

However, the theme actually makes a mini cameo in BvS, at the tail end of the “Falling” cue right when Supes flies up to face Lex Luthor. It sounds heavily temped from “Alien Ship Arrives”.

nvictor

2018-08-02 12:56:26

thanks, this makes me very happy Hybrid : ) i will be looking for similar tracks.

when i took HZ's masterclass he said something like developing an "arc". and composing like writing a "diary". but then in other interviews he said sometimes you want to write music as the film is being worked on. or even sometimes you don't get to know what is going on in the movie. so let's say there are various techniques. (this one would be a favorite)

And THIS is why I love Zimmer. His little attention to details. If you listen to “This Is Clark Kent”, at 1:14 and 1:59 he inserts the Krypton motif subtly into Clark’s theme(s), suggesting that little bit of alien that’s there.

I hope Danny Elfman understand that Zimmer's Theme for Superman (AKA What Are You Going to Do When You Are Not Saving The World?) is and will be the musical personification of THIS Superman. I love John William's Superman but the two themes are great, each one in his universe.

It's a fantastic melody (Zimmer's Theme) that always inspire me hope and joy, and not sadness like many people affirm.

Would be the best option ti resurrect Superman in Justice League.

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mpolonest123

2017-10-02 17:53:05

True, but as we saw, Zach Snyder had no idea how to handle that theme at all. After building up to it in MoS, he completely backtracked in BVS and only used it in that "Day of the Dead" variation (and even then that was just a dark variation on the theme). I was hoping Whedon would let Elfman give it a heroic spin again, but who knows at this point.

Hybrid Soldier

2017-10-02 17:57:25

No Hans told me he wanted to use it but just could never find a scene in Bat v Sup where he could actually do it...

mpolonest123

2017-10-02 18:27:59

And THAT'S one of the biggest issues with that film. Instead of allowing a nice balance of darkness (Batman) and hope (Superman) you instead end up with a depressing mix of darkness. And the music reflected that, there were hardly any moments that would compare with "Flight" or "What Are You Going to Do". It was definitely an issue on Snyders part, not Hans...

Hybrid, you might be able to clear this up. The main tune from Arcade: did Hans or JXL do that? Cause JXL said in a "Studio Time" Batman v Superman video that Hans asked him to come up with a rhythmic device for MOS, and what he came up with was the rhythm from Arcade....but that started as a Hans tune, if my understanding is right.

So did Hans do the main Arcade tune, then JXL used that tune as a rhythm, or did JXL come up with the rhythm, and then Hans wrote a tune over that?

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Max Potcats

2017-05-09 10:26:18

I watched the last Studio Time too, and I understand that Hans make the "orchestral part" and ask JXL to make the rhythm with the drum orchestra after. But yes, I hope that Hybrid can clarify that too ;-)

So hearing JunkieXL's scores recently, this has really made me wonder...did Zimmer *really* work on the Arcade and Zod theme suites, or are they really all Junkie and Zimmer's name is a nice formality? Because they don't sound especially Zimmerish *anyway,* yet they sound identical to JunkieXL's recent output. ;)

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Zimson

2015-12-24 14:23:53

Junkie did some drum programming on MoS as far as I know. Given his top credit on Dawn of Justice it would be no surprise if he was involved a lot in the first one.

JamesT

2015-12-24 19:48:28

Involved a lot in the first one? Isn't he basically co-credited on almost every track for MOS?

Anonymous

2015-12-25 22:59:13

He's responsible for Zod's theme

Hybrid Soldier

2015-12-26 23:02:52

He scored a lot of MOS, and then scored Zack Snyder's next movie (300 ROAE)...

I'm surprised no one has talked about the recently leaked complete score for this one...

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Anonymous

2015-03-08 05:49:36

Are u talking about this? . . . (i don't know if this is the official score )

1M01 Krypton1M01B Zod Disbands Council1M01C The Codex1M01D Goodbyes, Launch Preparation1M01F The Launch1M02 Zod Is Captured2M03 Krypton Destroyed, Kal To Earth2M04 Oil Rig Rescue2M05 Young Clark Freaks2M07A Bus Rescue Pt. 12M07B Bus Rescue Pt. 22M08 I Just Wanted To Help2M10_11 On The Road Again, Meet Lois2M12 The Anomaly2M13 The Scout Ship3M14 The Scout Ship Takes Off3M15 Who Are You?3M15B First Flight3M15Balt First Flight (Alternate)3M16 Lois Investigates3M18 The Tornado3M19 Homecoming4M20_21 UFO, You Are Not Alone4M22 Lois Arrested4M23 Who Is This Kal Person?4M24 What's On Your Mind4M25 Alien Ship Arrives4M25A Surrender To Faora4M26 Lois And Superman Brought Before Zod4M28A Zod's Story Pt. 14M28B Zod's Story Pt. 24M29 Alien Ships Head To Kansas5M30 Escape From Ship5M31_32 Superman Rescues Mother, Smallville Duel5M33 This Man Is Not Our Enemy5M34 Release The World Engine6M34A Terraforming6M35_36 We Have A Plan, World Engine6M36A We Did It6M37_38 Destroy This Ship, Faora Attacks6M39 Kiss6M40 Final Confrontation7M40B Battle Continues7M41 Clark Kent, Reporter

Russel

2015-03-08 06:34:00

It seems no one posts a lot like they used too when bootlegs leaked before. Interesting.

Marcos

2015-03-08 06:45:23

OMG i'm listening this complete score and is not a fake, or a DVD RIp, or a fan made!, this is real!!, all tracks sounds amazing, at last! i got the famous "escape from the ship" and all unreleased music

T-Mann036

2015-03-08 07:38:33

This leak is 100% legit... and it's real. I too am listening to this and this complete film score is truly faster than a speeding bullet!

Dumb ass

2015-03-08 15:38:00

Holy shit! It's 100% legit AND it's real???

Amigo in Donut Shop

2015-03-10 22:08:18

Has anyone made a list of what's new on the sessions vs. the OST?

Amiga in Donut Shop

2015-03-10 22:25:57

OP made a list of what cues on the OST corresponds to sessions. Check it on the page

Amigo In Donut Shop

2015-03-10 22:41:41

Grazie, I think, Amiga - I guess I was looking for a concise list of whats new vs. the old - you know, like *Previously Unreleased flags on cues exclusive to the sessions. I'll keep looking, since I don't see that for some reason! Have a chocolate bar on me ;-)

Amiga in Donut Shop

2015-03-10 23:39:10

Go to the place where the complete score came from. On that page the OP made a list of the OST stuff. So everything else is new. Which is a lot lol

Medigo

2015-03-11 00:10:33

That list is incomplete thoIts missing YouDieorIDo and YouLedUsHere's place in the complete score

RealFfingMusic

2015-03-11 07:27:54

@Medigo, "You Die or I Do" is a major part of "Final Confrontation", and "You Led Us Here" is "Zod's Story (Part 1)"

Medigo

2015-03-11 08:59:29

That is what I meantis that the list on that place didnt account for those 2 tracks

GR7

2015-03-11 12:36:11

Nobody talked on this topic about the complete score because the admins created a page/topic on this release !

ei18

2015-03-12 04:36:01

I was watching an interview with Junkie XL and he said that he and Hans produced the score for months before even writing material. What exactly does he mean by this? What is producing a score versus writing the score? Thanks!

Hybrid Soldier

2015-03-12 08:41:33

Choosing the sound palette, mostly... What samples, instruments to use, what could fit the movie...

Edmund Meinerts

2015-03-12 10:17:32

I love how you can spend months tinkering with the sound palette and what comes out at the end still sounds like synth demos...that's amazing.

Well, Tom (Junkie XL) tweeted that he is composing the trailer music with Hans for the Batman v Superman trailer coming with Mad Max: Fury Road. I am going to be honest, I am extremely excited about seeing and now HEARING the trailer! I think Man of Steel gets a great deal of undeserved flack. I personally found it an excellent score both inside and outside of the film. But anyway, enough of my thoughts. Curious to hear about all of yours in anticipation of the trailer!

Hey Hybrid Soldier, do you know where in the film the Marco Beltrami cue "The Long Walk" from The Hurt Locker can be heard? I really want to know this cause I cannot seem to find it anywhere! Thanks :)

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Adam

2014-12-08 04:29:01

Oh man, I found it!! It's that creepy cue when Zod makes the television broadcast! I always loved that part - very eerie. I had always thought it was just SFX but it's an actual cue. Awesome!

I know Hybrid doesn't post anything unofficial, but it's a pretty safe bet that "What Are You Going...", at least, can be credited to "Hans Zimmer". ;) But then, even there I guess someone else could have done the slight alterations...

Hybrid Soldier

2014-10-28 08:26:22

Actually I know 2 cues for fact that are Steve Mazzaro & Andrew Kawczynski, but they're not in the OST.

And I suspect something like 2 or 3 cues being Atli (actually not on OST either)...

Anonymous

2014-10-28 15:50:22

well it seems like Junkiexl had the biggest role to play of the additionals

Mike

2014-10-28 22:26:36

Our of curiosity, even if they're not on the OST, what are said cues?

Anonymous

2014-12-02 22:41:23

yes indeed what are the mazzaro/andrew/atli cues ?

Adam

2014-12-05 09:11:32

Hey Hybrid, do you have those tracks for us? Please?? Just looking to know the credits. Thanks!

Hybrid Soldier

2014-12-05 12:44:02

Who Is This Kal Person? has Mazzaro

Escape From Ship has Kawczynski

mpolonest123

2014-12-05 17:37:51

Just wondering but did Junkie XL have anything to do with Lois's theme? Watching Divergent recently, there is an unreleased cue which is almost identical to "Lois Investigates"

Hybrid Soldier

2014-12-05 18:57:35

No he didn't... I guess just some temp left in Divergent made that... And the Lois theme is in the Sketchbook...

mpolonest123

2014-12-05 19:44:01

Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up. Is it the background strings starting at 11:55 in the suite?

Hybrid Soldier

2014-12-05 20:08:29

Yeah, I don't even think it was supposed to be a proper theme in the film...

Some guy probably "Hey not bad let's use it !" and rearrange it in a more badass way... Too bad none of these made it to the OST... :(

mpolonest123

2014-12-05 20:53:17

Yeah that is a shame, probably some last minute cues after the album was pressed.

It reminds me a bit of the OSCORP theme in Spidey 2 or the "nature out of balance" motif in The Lone Ranger, not really heavily featured on album.

Mike

2014-12-05 21:41:02

Speaking of the Sketchbook suite, Hybrid, do you know what the 7 minutes of it cut from the album are (you said the original was 35 minutes)?

Man of Steel for me is one of Hans Zimmer's best works...From look to the Stars, to This is Clark Kent, to Ideal Hope and of course Arcade...all i can say is wow! I have no patience with internet nitpickers who have not composed a cellphone ringtone but are now experts at criticizing a legend in our time. Currently enjoying the interstellar soundtrack...Could you please bring that organ to some of Superman. Especially the sounds on STAY, had a superman heroic feel. Keep up the good work!

Hans Zimmer revealed in an interview with Comic Book Resource that he will be collaborating with Junkie XL on Zack Snyder’s Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. The composer mentioned that Junkie XL aka Tom Holkenborg will be providing music for the Batman character, while he will take care of Clark Kent/Superman. Zimmer previously scored Snyder’s Man of Steel. Junkie XL composed additional music for Man of Steel and also worked with Snyder on 300: Rise of an Empire. Zimmer had previously expressed hesitation to score another Batman movie when he was first asked about the project given his involvement with Christopher Nolan’s The Dark Knight trilogy. Batman v Superman starring Henry Cavill, Ben Affleck, Gal Gadot, Amy Adams, Laurence Fishburne, Diane Lane, Jesse Eisenberg, Jeremy Irons and Holly Hunter is set to be released on March 25, 2016 by Warner Bros. Pictures.

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Mike

2014-11-05 00:42:18

If Zimmer will make Superman his focus here, he BETTER make sure to develop his theme a good deal! It'll be so disappointing if we just get rehashes of MOS material once the score is done. Please, Mr. Zimmer, really make the Superman stuff count.

Hans Zimmer

2014-11-05 13:31:17

You got it Mike. I'll do exactly that.

Mike

2014-11-05 16:26:32

Oh, if only it were that simple....lol

Adrian

2014-11-06 04:52:59

Hans Zimmer V Junkie XL...I like it

RealFfingMusic

2014-11-06 05:32:31

JunkieXL vs. HansZ: Dawn of Iconic Themes

I hope the themes will be more developed before the closing scene, UNLIKE Man of Steel.

Brent

2014-11-11 01:46:06

The Music from Man of Steel was fantastic, so I have full faith in Zimmer continuing to expand the sound, music & feel he started with that wonderful score. Junkie XL did a fantastic job with DIVERGENT too, so I have no worries that he will create a great new Batman theme, music & sound for the new Batman.

I really like this idea. From what I've heard from Junkie XL, I've really enjoyed. I'm just hoping it's something very iconic, it may not last forever as one of the great themes, but as long as the theme is very easily identifiable. I'm on board.

...

2014-11-03 19:52:25

Oh Crap...

I actually like some of Junkie's music, but for him to handle Batman...we'll see

Mike

2014-11-04 01:34:05

Ah, my original idea (that Zimmer would have someone else work on Batman) was correct! As for it being JunkieXL, judging by his contributions to MOS, I find this news to be....somewhat disappointing. Still, looks like this series will have a "tradition" of JunkieXL having a heavy role (since he did a lot of the Zod stuff here in MOS, and will do Batman's music in the next one).

I wonder, is Zimmer eventually planning to hand this series to JunkieXL, so that he doesn't need to be tied down with Justice League films? :P

I found the music from that trailer is really similar to MoS. Also, does the music in the teaser has anything to do with the final score? Cuz I really love that music

Hybrid Soldier

2014-07-30 22:32:48

Hans said : "The trailer is NOT my music! You won't hear our score until you see the movie in a cinema. It's important to us to give everyone a fresh experience by not having given any of it away...Plus, you need really BIG speakers. Really BIG!"

lol

Anonymous

2014-07-31 16:09:20

What did the music sound like ? Did it use the main MOS theme at all ?

Anonymous

2014-08-01 22:48:16

The music in the BvsS DOJ Teaser I mean :P

Anonymous

2014-10-25 19:53:12

as for the previous comment, it was percussion along the deshi basara mold, nothing very exciting

Do any of you guys know if that part was in the film itself? I really want to find that scene and I've been looking everywhere!

Hybrid Soldier

2014-10-23 23:53:14

Nope it's not in the movie... Could have, should have probably !

Mike

2014-10-24 00:03:43

I could picture it being used during the last scene with Zod....or even during the final fight scene as a whole (give it a "Beckett's Death" cue kinda feel), but I wouldn't wanna trade "If You Love These People" for that.

Henry

2014-10-24 00:09:17

Damn... I agree it is the best in the soundtrack. Thanks!

bro

2014-10-24 03:20:23

It is in the movie. It's called "If You Love These People".

Anonymous

2014-10-24 04:50:42

@bro: false

bro

2014-10-24 07:11:46

Yeah too bad I've got the midi files to compare the two, they are both based on the same material. Just like the "Water"/"H2O" theme from angels and demons is just a reworked version of "Malleus Maleficarum".