things, to create aniceenvironmentforthem to enjoy and the group that came out to cover this said we expected you to be an a-hole. we expected you to be upset down and backwards with granting access to us. and i went, this is who i am. >> are you a nice guy? >> he's a very nice guy. >> this is not who you see. there's always that busch brother problem. baldwin brother problem. >> don't put me in that group. >> seriously, are you a nice guy who is just misunderstood? >> i have a fiery attitude when i put the helmet on. it's just that mentality of when you go into battle and you're a sports guy, you have to do what it takes to win. sometimes it rubs people the wrong way. especially the fabric of the way everything hases viewed these days has to be so clean, crisp cut and you can't have any blemishes. coach bobby knight is a guy i looked up to, tossing chairs, that's how my dad taught me. >> i love how you drive, first of all. watching this documentary, i was struck by how much you seem to mistrust and not like the media. i don't know if it's just specific in nascar. >> we're nice. >> o