It is the 'smooshing' that has caused my problem with this new thing. I'm sure we all had (have?) our systems for managing the PMs. In my case, I very seldom bothered to look at my 'sent' messages. Folks would PM me about something and I would reply and that would be it. So, I had a very long list of folks to which I replied, then deleted their original PM. Now, all those 'replies' have come home to haunt me, and the list is quite long due to all these 'from me' relics.

some thought's…..yes, they "disapear"….when one press "private message" on top of the site….just a few of the history shows upwhen one press "show all"….there's SOME more that show up, BUT….not the latest…..to see latest from a specific person, one have to press the "send private message" thru persons profile in a regular post….next thing…..there should be JUST ONE way to send a message, when one written a message….JUST by press send-button…..as it is now one can by accident send by press enter-button, next thing…..one must continue to write everyting in one line/sentence….an' when come to an end the computer shift's to line 2 (second line….)there's NO chance to finish a line/sentence by press shift/enter to get to a new line….INSTEAT the message get posted…..

every change is seen by us humans as NEGATIVE….a sample….if i work from 08:00-17:00, an' my boss say….from now on you have to work from 07:00-16:00i say NOOOO…..(coz then i have to get up 1h earlier)…..after 3 month my boss say….from now on you have to work from 08:00-17:00 again as you did in the past,then i say NOOOOO ( coz i have to finish 1h later)……

same here……the GOOD OL' private messages was MUCH better since i was used to it…..this new version is a BIG mess….coz it don't behave similar as the ol'…..IF those problems get fixed, i can accept the changes….BUT……as it is now i REALLY prefer the ol' version….an' YEAH…..i run my forums in a CLASSIC view…..(for same reason….i know how the handle)

I used both the old and newer PM systems since the release of Zeta. If I deleted some messages from a poster from my Profile inbox, I noticed there were unexpected holes in our conversation when viewed from a Zeta header. More than the deleted messages.

So I am wondering if it is like the forum discussions we move of delete that create black hole in which undeleted conversations fall into.

Lurked and found this thread. The bottom line for me is "why the new format"? The original was easy and well liked and being sorely missed while the new is difficult and hard to follow.I liked being able to scroll through the messages, find a title I was looking for and continue it no matter how far back.it was. Some PM's were from members who have passed away and I miss them but could pull up their advice for something when needed.

I too, have lost pms in my inbox in the past few days. I just clicked on one this morning (from the inbox) and it showed, but the person's profile came up for some reason, blocking the message, so I went back to my forums, then back to the inbox and the latest pm to me was nowhere to be found. I scrolled down the entire history list and nada. This had never happened to me before, even with the newer style of messaging.