50 Years Ago, Loyola and its ‘Iron Five’ Changed College Basketball Forever

Fifty years ago, and three years before Texas Western’s historic NCAA Tournament upset of Kentucky, the 1963 Loyola Ramblers went on an NCAA Tournament run that would change college basketball forever.

There were no Selection Sunday-style celebrations in Starkville, Mississippi on March 11, 1963 when the SEC champion Mississippi State Maroons learned whom they would be playing in their opening NCAA Tournament game.

The Maroons were slated to play the fourth-ranked Loyola (Illinois) Ramblers in East Lansing, Michigan. But traveling north to represent the SEC in college basketball’s national championship tournament would mean defying Mississippi governor Ross Barnett and the unwritten rules about which teams Mississippi State was allowed to play.

Loyola and head coach George Ireland had no use for unwritten rules.

One such rule in the early 1960s said that college basketball teams should have no more than two black players. Three was pushing it. College coaches had a saying back then: “”I play one black player at home, two on the road, and three if I’m behind.”

Of course, there were plenty of teams, particularly in the south, who refused to put any black players on their rosters. The SEC, for example, was entirely white until Perry Wallace took the court for Vanderbilt in 1967. Many coaches at the time refused to schedule games against teams with integrated rosters.

The Ramblers were different. George Ireland started four black players, sometimes five.

Deal With It

Ireland, himself a former All American at Notre Dame, ignored the rules governing the racial composition of college basketball teams. He wasn’t interested in quotas; he was interested in good players, regardless of the color of their skin.

He recruited post players Les Hunter and Vic Rouse, both juniors on the 1963 team, out of Pearl High School, an all-black school in Nashville, Tennessee. (At the time, high school basketball in Tennessee was segregated. When the sport integrated in 1965-66, Pearl went 31-0 and won the state title.)

Two-time All-American forward Jerry Harkness (senior) and guard Ron Miller (junior) came to Chicago from the Bronx, as did reserve guard Pablo Robertson (sophomore), who went on to a career with the Harlem Globetrotters. Harkness didn’t play varsity basketball until his senior year in high school. He had been a playground player whose primary school sport was track. Loyola was the only school to offer him a scholarship.

In 1961 Ireland became the first coach in major college basketball to start five black players. During the 1962-63 season he started four.

George Ireland’s decision to eschew the sport’s unwritten rules was effective. The 1961-62 Ramblers went 23-4, finished the regular season ranked tenth in the AP Poll, and advanced to the semifinals of the NIT (which was a big deal back then).

But the Ramblers of the early 1960s were interested in more than just winning. They forced the college basketball world to take notice of the injustice of segregation.

In 1962 Ireland took his team south to face another Loyola: Loyola of New Orleans. Louisiana law at the time barred Ireland’s black players from lodging with their white teammates. Instead of staying in the team hotel, Harkness, Miller, Rouse, and Hunter spent the night with African American families in New Orleans. The two Loyolas played in front of an all-white crowd because black fans had boycotted the game on account of segregated seating in the Loyola of New Orleans gym.

Ireland said of the experience, “I think the overall result may have been good. But the tension on all of us had just been too tough. I would not do this again.”

The Ramblers continued to schedule southern opponents, even if they didn’t travel south of the Mason-Dixon line to face them. During the 1962-63 season, Arkansas, Memphis State, and Loyola of New Orleans all made the trip to Loyola’s Alumni Gym in Chicago to play the Ramblers. Loyola beat them by 19, 12, and 35 points, respectively.

Ramblers players called their coach “The Man.” And the team’s 1962-63 starting line-up—Harkness, Miller, Hunter, Rouse, and guard Jack Egan—earned the moniker “The Iron Five.” Together, The Man and the Iron Five opened the season with 20 consecutive wins and led the nation in scoring, averaging 92.3 points per game.

The Game of Change

The 1962-63 Ramblers compiled a 24-2 regular season record and secured an invitation to the NCAA Tournament, where they opened with Ohio Valley Conference champion Tennessee Tech. Loyola defeated the all-white Tennessee Tech team 111-42. Their 69-point margin of victory still stands as the largest in NCAA Tournament history.

Mississippi State coach Babe McCarthy went to extraordinary lengths to get his team to Michigan for its 1963 NCAA Tournament game against Loyola. (Photo from Mississippi State media relations)

Mississippi State awaited Loyola in the Mideast Region semi-final. The Mississippi State Maroons (now Bulldogs) had won the SEC in 1959, 1961, and 1962 but each time had turned down their automatic bid to the NCAA Tournament on account of an unwritten law in the state of Mississippi that forbade racially integrated athletic competition. Each time Kentucky went to the tournament in their stead.

In 1963 Maroons head coach Babe McCarthy and other university leaders decided that they weren’t going to pass up yet another opportunity to play for a national championship and orchestrated a secret trip to East Lansing, Michigan, the site of the Mideast Regional. Mississippi Governor Ross Barnett, a staunch segregationist, was adamant that the Maroons not leave the state to play against an integrated Loyola team. State senator Billy Mitts found a judge to issue an injunction keeping the team from traveling to Michigan.

A few days before the game, university president Dean Colvard went to Alabama for a speaking gig. Colvard instructed McCarthy to drive up to Memphis and stay there until it was time to leave for East Lansing. With McCarthy and Colvard out of the state, there was no one for Mitts’s judge to serve the injunction to.

The day after the coach and president left Mississippi, a group of bench players and trainers went to the Starkville, Mississippi airport to see if anyone there would try to keep them from heading north. When no one did, the rest of the team joined them at the airport and boarded a plane to Nashville, where they would meet McCarthy and board a flight to Michigan.

Meanwhile in Chicago, Ireland asked to have all of his players’ mail forwarded to him so that they would be spared from the hate mail that had been filling their dormitory mailboxes.

Despite all the drama leading up to the regional semifinal between Loyola and Mississippi State, the game itself went on without incident. The third-ranked Ramblers defeated the sixth-ranked Maroons 61-51 in a contest known by those who remember it as “The Game of Change.”

The Mississippi State team that had spurned its state government received a warm reception from fans and students when they returned to Starkville. Loyola advanced to play Big Ten champion Illinois.

A Great Run by Any Standard

The 1966 NCAA championship game, in which a Texas Western (now UTEP) squad with five black starters upset an all-white Kentucky team, is often cited as a singular turning point in the history of race and college basketball. Texas Western’s story was the subject of the successful 2006 Disney movie Glory Road and several books and made-for-TV documentaries.

College Basketball 101 doesn’t cover the 1963 Loyola Ramblers, who overcame prejudice and rejected convention en route to a national title three years before Don Haskins, Bobby Joe Hill, and the Texas Western Miners went on their historic tournament run.

Where storytelling is concerned, Texas Western’s story is tidier. First, the Miners’ transcendent win over Kentucky was a championship game. Loyola’s most significant tournament game, at least in terms of race relations in the United States, came in the second round. Second, when Texas Western played Kentucky in the 1966 title game, five black players took the floor against five white players. In the 1963 final, both teams had racially integrated starting line-ups.

One day after beating Mississippi State in the “Game of Change,” Loyola easily defeated Illinois (79-64) to win the Mideast Region and advance to the Final Four in Louisville. In the national semi-final the Ramblers rolled over Duke, defeating the second-ranked Blue Devils 94-75.

Loyola during a timeout in the 1963 NCAA championship game (NCAA Photos)

Though Loyola was widely considered one of the nation’s best teams and had won their first four NCAA Tournament games by an average margin of 28 points, Cincinnati was considered the overwhelming favorite to beat Loyola in the title game.

The Bearcats, who boasted two first-team All Americans in Ron Bonham and Tom Thacker, opened 1962-63 ranked first in the AP Poll and remained atop the poll for the entire season. Cincinnati’s only loss that season was to fifth-ranked Wichita State, a team that had also defeated Loyola.

When the 1963 NCAA title game tipped off, the majority of the players on the floor—four of Loyola’s starters and three of Cincinnati’s—were black. While the 1966 final—with its black-versus-white, integration-versus-segregation storylines—works better as a Disney movie, the 1963 game was arguably more significant.

For the first time in NCAA history, two fully integrated teams were playing for a championship.

Cincinnati lived up to expectations and controlled much the game. The Bearcats had built a 15-point lead with ten minutes remaining in the second half. But behind Harkness, who led Loyola with 20 points, the Ramblers rallied and forced overtime. Neither team was able to secure an advantage in the extra period until a tip-in by Rouse at the buzzer clinched the game for Loyola. The Ramblers won 60-58.

In a span of eight days, Loyola defeated four teams ranked in the top eight of the final AP Poll: Mississippi State (7), Illinois (8), Duke (2), and Cincinnati (1). Few teams in college basketball history have had to defeat four teams of that caliber en route to a title.

The Ramblers Ramble On

Harkness, a senior, was selected by the Knicks in the second round of the 1963 NBA Draft. After a brief five-game stint with the Knicks, he played two seasons with the ABA’s Indiana Pacers in the late 1960s before settling in Indianapolis.

The other four members of the Iron Five returned for the 1963-64 season and took Loyola to the Sweet 16. The Pistons drafted Hunter in the second round of the 1964 draft then traded him to the Baltimore Bullets. He played one season in the NBA and six in the ABA.

No other Ramblers played in the NBA or ABA, though Robertson (as mentioned above) had a nice career with the Harlem Globetrotters, which afforded him the opportunity to star on the Globetrotters’s Saturday morning cartoon in the 1970s and to appear on Scooby-Doo.

Loyola’s Pablo Robertson went on to play for the Harlem Globetrortters, which, at the time, meant guest starring on Scooby-Doo. (Picture from the Scooby-Doo wiki.)

Ireland took Loyola to the NCAA Tournament again in 1966 and 1968 before retiring in 1975. He remains the winningest coach in Loyola history. The Ramblers have only been to the NCAA Tournament once since Ireland’s retirement.

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One cannot tell the story of college basketball in the United States without mentioning the 1963 Loyola Ramblers.

While it is tempting to point to one game in 1966 as the one responsible for ending segregation in basketball, the truth is that many teams, players, and coaches, across many years (and even decades) had a hand in integrating the game.

We can celebrate Loyola’s 1963 title, on its 50th anniversary, as a victory for integration and justice. But aside from issues of race, we can also celebrate it as one of the great runs in tournament history.

Josh Tinley writes the Away From The Action column at Midwest Sports Fans, covering all aspects of sport aside from what actually happens on the field, court, or track. Josh grew up in Indianapolis and graduated from the University of Evansville and Vanderbilt Divinity School. He is the author of Kneeling in the End Zone: Spiritual Lessons From the World of Sportsand the managing editor of LinC, a weekly curriculum for teens that explores the intersection of faith and culture. Josh lives outside Nashville with his wife, Ashlee, and children, Meyer (7), Resha Kate (5), and Malachi (3). He will not allow himself to die before the Evansville Purple Aces make another trip to the NCAA Tournament. Follow him on Twitter @joshtinley or send him an e-mail.

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I was a Freshman student at Loyola New Orleans in 1962-63. I competed for and earned a spot on the Freshman team. Coach Bill Gardiner, a good man, after our last workout in August,1962 that he could not place me on the freshman team roster b/c Southern schools wouldn’t play us with a colored boy on the team, I wish that I could find some old classmates and would be teammates from that year. I recall the name Kalinowski,but no others. Their homes were Illinois and Indiana. I’m 71 now and still feel the pain of that rejection.
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I’ve shown my blog to my mom… once. She’s never owned a computer and does not aspire to. She couldn’t comprehend what blogging was about. She looked at the comments and said, “So all these people read all this stuff you wrote?” She’s 84, and has always been a reader of historicals, but she tends to favor Philippa Gregory and Diana Gabaldon over Peake or Walpole. Thanks Sevigne! Your mom sounds cool. My mom thought she was hip in the seventies when she added pant-suits to her wardrobe.

Oh mercy, since you mentioned the lovable Honey Boo Boo again – I read the entire article you provided. God Help Us All…I hope that show gets canned. (I will vote with my remote and NEVER watch it) I can’t believe they bought the child a pet pig and they were scared the mom was going to eat it…well, if she weighs in at 303 pounds, maybe I can.Funny stuff, Smakola!

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Oh, Phaedra, I’m so sorry. Thanks for letting me pray for you. I’ll do my best, for what it’s worth. I’m not all that far away, up here in Washington. Let me know if there’s anything at all I can do for you. You’ve been a good friend, and I want to reciprocate. Love, hugs, and prayers to you! May the Gods give you strength, may your Ancestors give you wisdom, and may the Land herself uphold and surround you.

Lord, missing a business meeting sounds like the best choice all round. Carol, I think your phrase “explicit simplicity” is just right. A sort of painting made with very few strokes – that catches the topic perfectly.

That is some big news. It will be a big adjustment, but there will some people like Mark Jensen, Matthew, Gavin Jensen, and Greg Jensen all in Winnipeg and area. So at least you won’t feel so out of place. This will be a good experience. My song “One My Way To Manitoba” seems appropriate for a time like this.

Hi omgloan, I agree that there’s no rush to buy if you are happy renting. Maybe your area never appreciated much or you are getting a sweetheart deal from a relative, but in most cases, I would hold off. Prices are likely to be cheaper in 2011 and 2012. It’s good that you have no plans to sell, that way you shouldn’t lose any money!

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My mom and I stayed at home and watched the balldrop on New Years…..We had a quart of eggnog, andI finished the dregs of a bottle of Cutty Sarkwhiskey in MY eggnog, Mom had hers plain We just watched the folks on TV gettingfrostbitten noses and trying to get Carson Dalyto notice them. (Oh, for the days ofGuy Lombardo….cue sound effect “old man cackle”)

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Here in UK cheques are going out of use, but are no good for overseas transactions.We need our own secure pay system that supports the fight against islamonazism! Surely there are enough people who support this who have the brains to do this? I would donate money to help set it up!

Innate ThoughtWhat about when an officer of “Law” suffers the same economic difficulties suggested above and turns toward a merit system where by virtue of the submission of a citation an “extra” income is available to the officer. In Sausalito, Calif. it is department policy for police officers to go to court, for the citations they issue, on the officers day off; but, the officer is compensated 4 hours overtime pay by the department. So basically anyone is subject to the earning potential of the officer and in economic difficult times the officer can abuse this privilege to balance out his economic disposition. This is another way to put it I think.

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What we are getting from the current bunch of western "leaders" (actually tyrants behind the scenes) is far worse than mere dhimmitude.They hope to use the Muslims as a weapon to destroy the western world, so that they can take over and rule over the rubble.

I’m with you. There’s a darn good reason Oh John Ringo No set “The Last Centurion” there.Chicago, Baltimore, K.C., MO, parts of Houston, and parts of the L.A. complex also make the list, if we are just talking “residents burn themselves out of house and home” versus “terror attack by the Usual Suspects (to Everyone Outside the State Department).”

Just curious: What do real life millionaires do to make their millions of dollars? Own a company? Make profits from the stock market? Etc?I know this is a very broad question….any millionaires on here now? No online scams or anything please!!

In my experience with university budgets, deferred maintenance is the first solution. At one time the university was fiscally responsible by not maintaining the university cars. I blew out three tires on one class field trip, and replaced them out in the boonies at high retail price.

Hey Wren? I’m sure this has been asked several times, but could you please clarify the difference between Zemus, Zerom and Zeromus? I know they’re the same person… kind of… not… but different, and I’m not sure which one looks like what and does what and came from where.

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Stewardship Ontario seems to be another excuse to grow the list of well-paid bureaucrats in this province. Next year’s Sunshine on Public Salaries should tell the tale. More money down the drain and out of our pockets.Time to go Dalton.

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“There is an argument to be made that the required regulation would be so costly that government production is simply more cost effective for the taxpayer, however.”Well said. I believe that many of the scandals, as well as the empirical data about the mixed performance of charter/voucher schools are supporting the wisdom of your words.

One gets the impression that the events between the last chapter of Existence and what has gone before would fill another novel or two.I suspect our uber-tects are using Penrose tiling. It would explain the bizarre symmetries preferred by Lovecraft's Elder Races.

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Nate For the last time, just because you call something an outlier doesn’t make it so. Saying that 80 percent of the US population lives in a metropoitian area is not the same as saying 80 percent od the SBC churches are in those areas. I find your concern for smaller churches (let the pastor leave for greener pastures) to be very concerning. Yes, we must reach the cities for Christ, but you don’t do that by ignoring the smaller churches.But then, I’m just a small church pastor so what do I really understand about evangelism an growth?Grace,Wes

From the article: "This dilemma affects student-athletes nationwide."What "dilemma"? Being a campus jock versus working in a gas station for minimum wage? Being a scholarship student versus paying their own way? Being a black student in Africa versus a scholarship jock in the USA?I fail to see any "dilemma" What I see is whining.What has happened to the LA Times copy editors?

Aww, thanks for the support. I find for the townies that don’t appreciate what an interesting world can lurk between the leaves, it’s difficult to explain… it’s certain more interesting than talking about the state of the weather at work. However, poor b**s they couldn’t shut me up the day after this post.

Hey MoS, great to see you so active.When the vote went down, my blood bubbled a little. I wanted to share my thoughts, but simply didn't have the time for a reasonable post. I did have the title figured out though.steve harper ~ israel's bitch.

That IS a preference.==============================My preference is to believe you are an idiot.Nothing the manufacturors have done has creatied any demand on my part. Therefore it is not always true that production stimulates demand.Demand comes from CUSTOMERS, not from producers. For that demand to happen they will have to prefer your product (and the payment for it) to what they already have and paid for.Otherwise, you can produce until you are blue in the face.

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Whine (8)-All the unemployed parents in our soccer club send me their resumes, unsolicited.The two common denominators are that those losing jobs are between 45-50 y/o, and the types of jobs they lost are never coming back.

I love this story and recognize the giant. He comes to us through you in a gesture wider than your arms can make or a kind word which sings beyond your voice. Plus, we know that as he gave to you, you also gave to him. Moments of laughter without judgement, a lap for his heavy head, and best of all, a creative, teenage imp to let go with and be a cut up just like all the other kids,

Does Fallout: New Vegas have the same type of genderfail that Fallout 3 had? (Um, if you missed it, all the character interactions were written like you were a man, and this didn’t change when you weren’t) Because if it’s better on that issue I might want to look into it.

Kat Schultz – Katie you are incredibly beautiful. I am blown away by how striking your eyes are. Don’t ever get down on yourself, I’ll whip out these photos and show you the truth. You are truly beautiful and talented.

Congratulation’s to all NCO’s, staff and particularly cadets on a tremendously successful annual camp. All NCO’s would agree with me when I say, there are many future leaders within the 42 cadets who attended annual camp, and the unit is in very good hands.

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Remember that in October, 2011, NPR dumped a show called “World of Opera” because host Lisa Simeone took part in Occupy DC. Applying the same principle n light of Siegel’s role in this forum, I think NPR now needs to dump “All Things Considered.”

Your post made me laugh – I’m totally a curriculum-junkie, too! I’ve had to move half my clothes out of the closet to make room for all the workbooks I’m buying the kids. Nice to know I’m not the only one…

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By the way… I have seen on Tamilone WebTV that they telecasted the funeral of Thesaithin Kural Anton Balasingham sir..Did TVI also telecast the funeral live from London?What is the opinion of ATN Tamil Channel/Jaya TV regaring Tamil Eelam issues?/Suriyan

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Lol that’s true I can always remember guitarists doing that for as long as I’ve been involved with worship in some facet. I had one of the most amazing milestones today! I just got back our youth group worship recording and it is by far the best recording that we’ve EVER had. I was so stoked. Something about hearing yourself later without the noise around you really helps you dial in your tone.

To #1 Dinosaur on the hell comment: What kind of dumb ass logic? Why bring religion in this context?All you need to understand is: she was a human with blood like you and would like to be treated with respect like anyone would.

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Yep, if you can get above a certain level of savings, the rest is all gravy! Unfortunately, I’m still trying to get to that level. If I could save $50,000 each year, anything over that I would spend half of the surplus… So if I had $80,000 extra money, I would spend $15,000 guilty free and save $65,000 (or at least I think I would).

No hugs for me either. Irish gene pool. Ariane, another great post. As the husband mentioned above, it should be noted that while I warned you from time to time that your obsessiveness was taking a toll on you, were it not for the same relentless investigations you have continued to pursue, we would be right where we had been for years. Not knowing anything about the autistic mind other than what non-autistic people were telling us — who ultimately, don’t know shit. Thanks for shining the light in my direction. I’m beginning to learn, and am very grateful for that.

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Jim:Thanks and thanks to everyone who posted a comment. This situation, while maybe uncommeon for a sales guy brings up many issues for my client. It’s amazing how this guy treated both employers (it’s just wrong). He called the guy yesterday and terminated his employment for non-performance. That was probably the best way to close this ugly chapter…

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I’m hoping Christmas! But if so, I will either be keeping it very quiet or having an open house at my brother’s brand new house!! I just can’t run around meeing everyone I’ve ever known in two weeks over Christmas…but of course, I’ll see anyone who reads my blog!!

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—If we’re going to anthropomorphize God (and it can be a useful metaphor sometimes), it doesn’t seem like such a stretch to talk about God’s head and heart. Though personally, I would’ve avoided the gendered pronoun, since I tend to gynemorphize God at least as much as I anthropomorphize God.

DO you mean misrepresentation of facts like the way NEI is deliberately misrepresenting the new SOARCA study? Or do you mean facts like how the NRC has to withdraw acredidation of WASH 1400? Was that fear-mongering when the NRC agreed that accidents could be even worse than the study? Get real!

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Just wait for either:1. the police to work out appropriate procedures; or2. Parliament to make laws to enable the police to get around this sort of thing; and3. a small squeak of public outcry.My money is on the police. They will require that persons making complaints allow themselves to be fingerprinted, photographed or otherwise identified at the time of handing over any documents.

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Israel has treaty-delineated borders with Egypt and Jordan. And a UN mapped border with Lebanon – the “Blue Line.”Apparently people who know nothing about the Middle East can’t be bothered to check the facts.

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