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All I know about this is, that I was sorry Kawai didn't move on releasing their AnyTime version of the K-3 in the US. I would have thought there might be some demand for it.

And yes, a paid ad on PW could give GPH some good targeted marketing, and it might be worth it just to pull the plug on the criticism. There is such a thing as bad publicity; they even admit it in Hollywood these days. But I'll name no names.

1. I highly doubt that a Chicago retailer would run an ad on a national forum like this - too much wasted audience.

2. My point was simply this - if Jeff, or anyone in the industry for that matter, really wants to make a product announcement such as this - I am quite certain that it would be rather simple to have a non-industry friend do it for them.

So what's the bother really?

It's an announcement about a new lineup of products from a leading manufacturer (in fact, the leading manufacturer in terms of market share) in an industry that interests us all. Period.

Grand Piano Haus - thanks for posting this - I read your post before it was pulled. I prefer digital pianos but sometimes wish I also had an acoustic grand in addition to my digital grand. The SH technology in a C2 or C3 might work for me. Looks like they are already being sold in Europe. BTW, I'm not sure I would have seen this if it had been in an ad.

Thank you for your point. I totally disagree with you. PianoWorld.com is a place for those interested in gaining knowledge or learning about keyboard/hybrid/acoustics/digital related products. I was merely announcing the FACT that Yamaha is expanding their Silent Piano lineup. I have invested before in PianoWorld's advertising with little or no effect.

I've been looking at the Yamaha U1, NU1, and Silent U1 as I weigh the advantages and disadvantages of each. It is unfortunate that whatever news this was is not allowed to be posted as I probably could have benefited from it.

Thank you for your point. I totally disagree with you. PianoWorld.com is a place for those interested in gaining knowledge or learning about keyboard/hybrid/acoustics/digital related products. I was merely announcing the FACT that Yamaha is expanding their Silent Piano lineup. I have invested before in PianoWorld's advertising with little or no effect.

Thank you,

Jeff TaschGPH

Hi Jeff,

I made a decision as a moderator, right or wrong, to edit your post… it is not up for debate. With all due respect, you will post a thread here, supposedly, to make a big announcement on PW and then disappear… you rarely ever stick around to elaborate or engage in conversation about your thread; you post the so-called announcement and then move on. That appears to me to be a subtle form of advertising.

And, although this is nothing new, this one just struck me as blatant advertising under the guise of an announcement. I know it is a thin line, but that line does exist.

I’m sorry you disagree with my thoughts on this and I’m sorry you feel your advertising dollars were wasted here. Without someone paying for advertising here on PW, it would not be here for you to make your big announcements.

It is my desire that all the dealer members here are treated fairly and with respect. But it seems that the only time you participate here is when you have a big announcement about the brands you sell.

If I’m off base here, I’m sure Frank or Ken will let me know…

Best regards,

Rick

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Joining today with a blank profile and few posts, the above seems to be the birth of a sock puppet. I won't even speculate whose hand is firmly inside.

Actually there's been a couple of posters in the last 3 or 4 days who looked like, well, Turing machine experiments. Short posts, often picking up on phrases from further up the thread. Almost but not quite making sense. I reported them (and when I googled them their user names came up on a couple of forums in common), and they're gone. This one looks like another one. And when I googled it the results were all for a user name in various forums.

So I wonder if someone has written a sneaky little program to steal user names and make posts as a spammy kind of thing, just to see if they can get away with it? Because this one's other posts fit the bill.

So I reported it, too

Cathy

Edited by jotur (01/17/1310:00 PM)Edit Reason: take out extraneous quote

As someone who may buy a Yamaha silent piano in the future, I would have found the original post to my great interest. Unfortunately it has been deleted. If you're here in this thread you must have some interest in the line as well. I believe the moderator is over-stepping his authority on this matter.

The original post contained no information about the silent pianos or mechanism. It was an ad announcing the list of models available with that feature. You can obtain that information from the Yamaha dealer of your choice. The title of this thread contains the most information referrencing that Yamaha expanded the line.

As someone who may buy a Yamaha silent piano in the future, I would have found the original post to my great interest. Unfortunately it has been deleted. If you're here in this thread you must have some interest in the line as well. I believe the moderator is over-stepping his authority on this matter.

Fair enough Marty - I did not see the original post. I was comparing this post against the one about a month ago about the CX line that generated similar controversy. I liked the post and was glad it was out there since at the time I was trying to get as much information, sound samples, reviews anything at all on the CX series. Even if it was more of a promotional video I was glad someone pointed it out.

FWIW, I thought Rick backed up his decision with some pretty good reasons--- a courtesy for the curious.

As for socks--- strictly forbidden on this forum--- I didn't see the posts, but I'll offer an opinion ANYWAY: I still sigh for PianoMadam and her conversations with herself under several ingenious noms de plume with different personalities to go with each bogus account. Unscrupulous, edgy, and even evil though she may have been, she had some pizzazz--- and plenty of brass. It was especially delicious that she was caught in the act by an alert member, and her socks were unfrocked--- in real time, no less; her very words cut-and-pasted, along with the account name she forgot to change when she switched personalities.

I don't think she did her brand any good, but the drama was fun while it lasted; there may be a future for her in white collar crime--- possibly writing fundraising letters for PACs which target the elderly and nervous. But most sock puppets are just tiresome, and are no fun at all. We don't seem to get the silk stocking socks here... so we just have to make do with being ourselves.

As for socks--- strictly forbidden on this forum--- I didn't see the posts, but I'll offer an opinion ANYWAY: I still sigh for PianoMadam and her conversations with herself under several ingenious noms de plume with different personalities to go with each bogus account. Unscrupulous, edgy, and even evil though she may have been, she had some pizzazz--- and plenty of brass. It was especially delicious that she was caught in the act by an alert member, and her socks were unfrocked--- in real time, no less; her very words cut-and-pasted, along with the account name she forgot to change when she switched personalities.

PianoMadam... For those of you who are curious, the incident Jeff is referring to above happened four years ago to the day almost. Beacon Chris, in the 10th post in the thread, discovered something interesting concerning the OP... Here is the old thread from 2009: Link

With the zillion-page follow-up thread... I had forgotten how overblown things used to get. So many teapots; so many tempests.

At least, she apologized and left town... I guess, ahead of the tar and feathers; otherwise, surely there would have been a photo. "Love the sinner--- hate the sin."

I don't know what happens behind the scenes, but it seems I read that the mods have some means of identifying sock puppets (people who log on with more than one user account, pretending to be different people), and it seems they are gone pretty fast anymore. Anyway, it's not the problem it was. Maybe, with the world of the piano shrinking under our feet--- daily it seems--- we're past the stage of pointing out each others' misdeeds and are paying more attention to cleaning up our own act. I would like to think that. Probably living in a dream world, as usual.