Sempai wrote on Mar 26, 2011, 00:36:Seriously, atleast give the player the option to play the game like an adult. The WoW and Disney syndrome.I swear to God no one has the balls to go past PG13 anymore and it's so tiresome. Well I guess Conan did but that isn't what ruined their subscriber base.

It's not something new. I suspect Age of Conan was the ONLY premium M-rated MMO that has ever been made. I have no doubt that getting an M-rating would hurt sales. It's not just a matter of younger teenagers with protective parents; MMOs are also popular among women, who tend to be less enthusiastic about gore.

I do really like your idea of giving people the option though. I don't know why some developer couldn't produce two versions of an MMO with two ratings. All of the gore could be client-side, and not effect people with the T-rated version.

Exactly. Why can't they have adult or mature servers in that case?

Good question.. I suspect it must have something to do with cost or some lame excuse.

Elf Shot The Food wrote on Mar 19, 2011, 18:41:This is being made by Black Hole Entertainment (WarHammer: Mark of Chaos) not Nival, the developer who made Heroes V. Hopefully they don't mess with success too much.

Black Hole entertainment's track record is pretty underwhelming.. they only made warhammer mark of chaos and that game was rather mediocre.. so I'm a little bit concerned and hopefully they won't screw it up.

Drezden wrote on Mar 1, 2011, 13:55:Stop coming into Rift threads giving your one sided "I wish every MMO was F2P" opinions to people who actually enjoy MMO's. It's getting really old Cutter. We all know your opinion on MMO's. You want single player MMO's to level through like they're Diablo, okay, we get it. You've run it into the ground, you come into every new post about Rift and throw your F2P comments around and it's obnoxious

Sure, thing just as soon as you stop giving your OPINION as well. Don't like what I have to say? /ignore ftw. That doesn't make me wrong, however. And as someone who's been PnP'ing since the 70s, MUDding and CRPGing since the 80s, you couldn't be more wrong. I've forgotten more about RPGs than you'll ever learn. I just want to see someone take this genre to the next-level, which so far no has managed to do in spite of many of those advances being common sense. Just because you're very easily amused it doesn't mean the rest of us are. Just because you fail to aim higher and ask for more doesn't mean the rest of us shouldn't.The crafting system is deeper than WoW, and the items are actually useful as you level up (If you keep your crafting up with your level)place as well.

It's a true next gen MMO. Despite what Cutter and his Guild Wars/Diablo mentality would lead you to beleive.

No, it's not, not even close. The crafting is shallow as hell and pointless. And so is the class system which are all but slight variations on the same archetype for the most part. The PQs get repetitive in about 5 minutes and are nuisances to be avoided, rather than engaged. There's no use of phasing. The quests are all standard fetch/courier/kill X number of beasties. At least WoW can make that sort of grind interesting. It's all extremely linear progression going from X to Y to X like a greased snake shot through a tube. And the zones themselves are very bland and boring for the most part.

So, in spite of what Drezden says, no there's nothing new here, and yes the game does take the genre backwards at points. It had an opportunity to advance the genre and failed miserably. If you're easily amused, like Drezden, and think most MMOs out there are just awesome than you'll love Rift. If, however, you're wanting more than don't bother untill it goes F2P and will, sooner rather than later.

Unfortunately you seem to be pretty alone in your opinions of the game. Sadly, it won't be going F2P anytime soon. So get used to it.

No he isn't.. alot of people like him are tired of the same old thing.. there are zero innovations in the MMO genre because eveyrbody just wants to copy the WoW forumula.