I don't like the thought of Blizz moving towards "little to no dailies" for WoD. I agree they went overboard with dailies in MoP, but people will get sick of the Timeless Isle concept just as quick if that's all there is.
Why can't there be a mix of both?

I agree with this wholeheartedly. I prefer Timeless Isle to dailies, but I think there really should be both.

They often think they learn a lesson in one xpac, try to 'fix' it in the next, but go overboard doing so.

There wasn't enough to do at endgame in Cata, so in MoP they put in far too many dailies that felt far too mandatory and people burnt out, so in Warlords they're dropping dailies entirely. That isn't the answer. Just moderate amounts of all options (that really are options) is what we need.

There wasn't enough to do at endgame in Cata, so in MoP they put in far too many dailies that felt far too mandatory and people burnt out, so in Warlords they're dropping dailies entirely. That isn't the answer. Just moderate amounts of all options (that really are options) is what we need.

has Blizzard stated they are ending dallies? first time hearing of this.

I stopped playing at the very end of 5.3, I think less than a month before 5.4.

I've resubbed recently and I must say I LOVE Timeless Isle. You can get as much crap you get with daillies, but you don't have to go EVERYDAY do the same quests. You can just grind a little on week days and GRIN YOURSELF TO SLEEP on sunday, etc.

It gives you way more freedom of choice, specially for people that don't have much time on weekdays. Way better than daillies, I hope we get something similar on WoD!

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In the end, I stood by the warchief, because it was my duty, and I am glad that it was you who struck me down.
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I have not stepped foot on the island since the first week. What possibly could be there that you think you need to spend 3 months to grind? The gear is basically LFR gear, and if you still need LFR gear then you're a person who doesn't actually need gear in the first place.

The only thing worth doing there is the Shaohao rep, and maybe the pet battle tournament.

No, the rep isn't even that useful. Mounts are WAY overrated. The rep and Huolon are NOT as important as many other things on the isle. There are pets, vanity items and stuff that is way more interesting than the 270th mount you never gonna use again anyway after 2 weeks.

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Originally Posted by amaraim

It still bothers me though that you have to get exalted with all characters to be able to ride the celestial mounts.

fewer compared to MoP? cuz that sounds about average lol. I'm hoping they go the route of using both dallies and "better" TI content. more choice on how to handle endgame is a very wise decision in my book.

I'd prefer dailies to patch after patch of Shaohao-type grinding. That's just dreadful.

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So one quest hub with a lot of grind dictates that Cata as a whole had too much grind? What about the anemic amount of dailies at launch which also happened to have been a complaint about WotLK at launch yet was even less dailies than that. Endgame is content for max level toons which also includes dungeons and raids on the PVE side. Outside of molten front Cata had less grind than WotLK from leveling to getting exhausting the VP vendor. Even gear catch up was faster from the get go.

Yup. I think there will be dailies, they just dial it back to a more reasonable amount.

No, the rep isn't even that useful. Mounts are WAY overrated. The rep and Huolon are NOT as important as many other things on the isle. There are pets, vanity items and stuff that is way more interesting than the 270th mount you never gonna use again anyway after 2 weeks.

Oh yeah, pet No 540 is soo different than mount No 270.
NOT.

It's pretty obvious that you only go for these if you like the visuals. And even then you don't need 3 months for that, because the rares are on a very predictable and short spawntimer (hint 30-60 minutes). I got most of the pets in 2 weeks having wow run in the background waiting for rares to pop, while doing other stuff. If I'm not mistaken they are sold in the AH too. That should cut the necessary grind down further.

From a raiders point of view the entire Island is pretty much worthless anyway, because if you raided a bit of ToT HC you already had better stuff. Sure there are 1-2 items you might use, but immediately replace in normal SoO.

Mobs giving rep is different how from dailies? You're sitting there grinding out mobs that give rep? The title "Daily" is what gets people's mind thinking it's different than anything else.

well one difference is if i don't do my dailies i'm slowing down my grind with no way to catch up. timeless isle gives me more freedom: 5 minutes today (to do the daily ;p), half hour tomorrow, 2 hours on weekend.

Dailies are fine, but the gating of gear behind them was the issue.
They became a mandatory grind due to what the reputation offered.
It should be more along the lines of truly optional stuff, mounts/novelty etc.

Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking

Your forgot to include the part where we blame casuals for everything because blizzard is catering to casuals when casuals got jack squat for new content the entire expansion, like new dungeons and scenarios.

Originally Posted by Reinaerd

T'is good to see there are still people valiantly putting the "Ass" in assumption.

While dailies were too excessive at the start of MoP, the Timeless Isle model is much worse. I got sick of it almost imeediately. It's pretty devoid of actual content, and is just a place to grind. The notion that WoD will follow this model makes me leery about the next expansion...

This. Timeless Isle works as a catchup mechanic. But as an actual source of content, it feels even more tedious than the 5.0 dailies. And as much as I generally LIKE WoD thus far, the fact that they're using Timeless Isle as the primary guiding source for the expansion is worrisome. A mix of 5.1 and 5.2 would be a much better overall model, IMO.