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Believe me, fans will be pissed even in this situation, if the Hurt Doctor turns out to be the Doctor who ended the Daleks and the Time Lords (temptedly, even this one), becaause it would make the Doctor not REALLY responsible for that horrible act, since his "bad self" did it. Plus, it would take away from the Ninth Doctor.

No offense, but fan assumptions about the Time War -- and that's all that the belief that the eighth Doctor ended the Time War is, since even RTD didn't hold that belief -- shouldn't stand in the way of the story Moffat wants to tell.

No offense taken. I personally never thought the Eighth ended it, though I did think he participated in it. I did think, though, that the Ninth ended it, in a decision that haunted the rest of his life.

We remember, of course, that according to RTD, the Time War was partially shown on Old Who, too. Genesis and Remembrance of the Daleks are positioned as such tales, after all.

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"Spock...?" Kirk said, whispering.
"I am... most pleased to see again, Captain" Spock formally replied.
McCoy shook his head in disgust. "Oh, for crying out loud, Spock. Its been eighty years!"
"Seventy eight point four years, Doctor."

Who is to say the Hurt Doctor ended the Time War? Maybe he's the one who started it in order to finally end the ongoing conflict between the Daleks and the Time Lords. The Ninth ended what that one started, albeit in a way he never dreamt he would have to. Just an idea, however daft.

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Who is to say the Hurt Doctor ended the Time War? Maybe he's the one who started it in order to finally end the ongoing conflict between the Daleks and the Time Lords. The Ninth ended what that one started, albeit in a way he never dreamt he would have to. Just an idea, however daft.

Sounds good. But in any case, I think we can all agree that the most important thing is for the story of the 50th to be good. Cause I think only if it ISN'T, will the bitching will come about from all fronts.

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"Spock...?" Kirk said, whispering.
"I am... most pleased to see again, Captain" Spock formally replied.
McCoy shook his head in disgust. "Oh, for crying out loud, Spock. Its been eighty years!"
"Seventy eight point four years, Doctor."

But in any case, I think we can all agree that the most important thing is for the story of the 50th to be good. Cause I think only if it ISN'T, will the bitching will come about from all fronts.

I'm pretty sure the bitching will come whether it's good or not.

Yea, I'm pretty sure there's at least a couple folks on this board that haven't had a good thing to say about nuWho, since RTD brought it back (Or at least since Moffat took over). Though, I do remember at least one episode that was pretty universally panned here, at least got a 3 out of 10 from one of those folks, compared to the usual 1 or less out of 10 they usually give.

I understand people still being disappointed at the lack of any classic Doctors, but for me the chance to not only watch Smith and Tennant interact in an episode, but to discover an entirely NEW Doctor (even a "dark" one), is a pretty damn exciting one.

That would be the highlight of the year even without it being the 50th anniversary.

I understand people still being disappointed at the lack of any classic Doctors, but for me the chance to not only watch Smith and Tennant interact in an episode, but to discover an entirely NEW Doctor (even a "dark" one), is a pretty damn exciting one.

That would be the highlight of the year even without it being the 50th anniversary.

Oh, definitely. I'm really looking forward to that. Plus I want to see Rose and Clara interact. Seeing some classic Doctors would've tempered the disappointment over Eccleston not returning, but I'm interested in seeing how John Hurt shakes out. I like John Hurt. I....just wish we had McGann or Tom Baker or McCoy too.

Okay, so all the Docs end up in the current TARDIS from the pictures. Obviously that's probably because they don't have the set for 10's TARDIS any longer, but I wonder what the story's reasons for it will be? Another "time crash" scenario? Do 10 and Rose pop out of the timestream with Hurt or something?

Starting to get excited. Still annoyed at the lack of a trailer...but starting to get excited.

Okay, so all the Docs end up in the current TARDIS from the pictures. Obviously that's probably because they don't have the set for 10's TARDIS any longer

10's is part of the Doctor Who Experience in Cardiff and was used for part of the filming. It's only missing some wall and celing so filimg at certain camera angels would be no problem. One of the new photos shows Tennant at the controls and is shot in the direction of the wall and doors that remained as part of the exhibition (I saw it when it was in London).

And that's why I don't grab images from the official site anymore. The images they post are almost always greatly reduced in size.

Anyway, this blog is a really good source for large versions of DW promotional images (I linked to another source above for these particular pics though because the images were of better quality there). He posts pretty much every official promotional image that comes out. It's also a decent source for Who news.

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