The Mortal Instruments: City of Bones – Satanic Nephilim Deception

“I defy the armies of Israel this day; give me a man, that we may fight together.” – The Nephilim Giant Goliath, 1 Samuel 17:10.

A new movie entitled The Mortal Instruments: City of Bones is set to hit theaters in August 2013. Based on the best-selling Mortal Instruments book series, it follows in the same line of young adult occult fiction, such as Twilight, Fallen Star and many other book series that are bombarding children and teenagers with stores of fallen angels, hybrid creatures and the occult. The film’s plot turns the Nephilim – evil half-human, half-angelic hybrid creatures of the Old Testament, into heroes who are trying to save humanity. This deception, which twists the Bible’s account of the Nephilim, serves to make them more appealing, drawing more young people into the occult and preparing them for the ultimate end-times deception of the Antichrist.

The Trailer

Here is the trailer for the film:

The Mortal Instruments: City of Bones Storyline

When fifteen-year-old Clary Fray heads out to Pandemonium, a club in New York City, she hardly expects to witness a murder – much less an murder committed by three teenagers covered with strange tattoos and brandishing bizarre weapons. Then the body disappears into thin air, It’s hard to call the police when the murderers are invisible to everyone else and when there is nothing to show that a boy has died. Or was he a boy?

Equally startled by her ability to see them, the murderers explain themselves as Shadowhunters: a secret tribe of Nephilim warriors dedicated to ridding the earth of demons. This is Clary’s first meeting with the Shadowhunters, Nephilim warriors dedicated to ridding the earth of demons. It’s also her first encounter with Jace Wayland, a Shadowhunter who looks a little like an angel and acts a lot like a jerk. Within twenty-four hours, Clary’s mother disappears, Clary is attacked and almost killed by a demon, and is soon pulled into Jace’s world with a vengeance. (source).

The name “Pandemonium” literally means place of the demon. In the novel Paradise Lost, by John Milton, Pandemonium was the name of the capital of Hell and home of “..of Satan, and all his peers”. So from the onset, we see that Satanic references abound in The Mortal Instruments. The main character of the film, Clary Fray, discovers at the age of 16 that she is a Nephilim. The movie is then about Clary’s indoctrination into the “shadow world” where the Nephilim, known in the film as Shadow Hunters, wage war against demons, vampires, werewolves and other evil creatures. All the while, the “mundanes” – normal human beings, cannot view this taking place. And Clary is the key to finding three sacred objects that will aid the Nephilim in this war to save the world.The Nephilim – Satan’s Plan To Destroy Humanity

Rather than being heroes, the Nephilim were Satan’s plan to corrupt the human race.

And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. – Genesis 6:1-4.

Rather than being heroes who are trying to help the world, the Nephilim were Satan’s plan to destroy humanity forever. Our articles on the Nephilim and the Bloodlines of The Nephilim go into great detail on why Satan initiated the incursion of hybrid creatures into humanity.
After the sin of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden God pronounced a judgment on Satan:

And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. – Genesis 3:14-15.

This pronouncement was historic. God proclaimed that the means by which Satan would ultimately punished and destroyed would be through the seed of the woman. (It must be remembered at this point that our enemy, Satan is a far older, and vastly more powerful and evil being, so this prophecy was a serious pronouncement). A human woman would give birth to a male child who would one day destroy the Devil. This was the first prophecy of the coming Messiah, Jesus Christ. Satan was put on notice. From then on he set out to corrupt or destroy any God-fearing child as that could potentially be the prophesied Redeemer. To no surprise the first Godly child born, Abel, was killed by his wicked brother Cain. Cain was banished and Adam and Eve bore another son Seth. At his birth Eve declared: “For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.” (Genesis 4:25).
As more God-fearing sons began to populate the Earth, Satan enlisted fallen, evil angels to marry human women and have hybrid offspring with them. By corrupting “the seed of the woman”, Satan could prevent the birth of the Messiah, who of course, had to be human and not part fallen angel. Satan wants the Word of God to fail but he knew that in addition to the woman, God prophesied that Satan too would have a “seed” (v. 15). Thus the Nephilim were an attempt to thwart God’s plan of salvation for humanity. At every step, the Nephilim giants, via their evil angelic parentage, sought to undermine or undo what God had set out for humanity to be reconciled to Him. In their dominance of the Earth, they reproduced so rapidly, God proclaimed that all flesh on the Earth had become corrupted. They dominated the Earth with war, bloodshed and their pagan religion (which will be covered in Part 2 of this series).

The movie twists the Biblical account to make the fallen angels who had illicit relations with humanity the heroes.

The Nephilim giants spread so much violence and sin that: “God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”Humanity was on the verge of being wiped out with no hope of being saved from sin if every person born became part-fallen angel. If there was no Messiah, there was no chance of redemption for humanity and all people would go to Hell (one of Satan’s true desires). Thus God judged the Earth with the flood to wipe out the Nephilim off of the Earth and punish the sinning angels who had illicit relations with human women.

Known as the “home of Satan”, Pandemonium is where Clary’s indoctrination begins.

What The Mortal Instruments movie attempts to do, is take the Biblical account and turn it upside down, making the Nephilim noble, just characters who are helping humanity from evil beings in the spirit realm. This twisting of God’s Word as the first tactic Satan employed to lead humanity into sin:

Now the serpent was more [subtle] than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. – Genesis 3:1-6.

Notice that Satan did not force Eve to eat from the forbidden tree. He merely put an idea into her head by changing God’s Word and contradicting it. God had sternly warned Adam and Eve that eating from the tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil meant certain death. Satan instead challenged God’s Word and declared that the fruit was actually good and could make Eve a god. This subtle deception has been a tactic from the beginning of humanity and the Devil has not relented in using it to seduce humanity into sin. Scripture says: “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!”(Isaiah 5:20). It is sinful to try to cast something evil as a good thing for people. Yet this is precisely what Mortal Instrument does by painting the Nephilim as heroic, attractive and cool warriors. Do not be deceived.

The Mortal Instruments similarly takes God’s Word and twists it to make the Nephilim heroes who are saving humanity. This is a synopsis on the origin of the Nephilim from the official movie website:

“Sometimes referred to as Nephilim, Shadowhunters can be traced back to the Bible. Several thousand years ago, a demon invasion threatened humans with extinction. To save the human race, a warlock summoned the angel Raziel for help. Raziel mixed some of his own angelic blood with that of a human in what became known as, the mortal cup. Those who drank the blood of the mortal cup, became Shadowhunters.” (source).

Notice the movie’s backstory is taken from the Bible, so there is no “coincidence” in the similarity of the accounts. But the movie removes the sinful disobedience of fallen angels and instead makes the angel “Raziel” a noble being who sought to save humanity by giving his blood to create the Nephilim hybrids. Also note that even though this story “can be traced back to the Bible” it was a warlock (a male witch) who rescues humanity, not God or someone who worships the God of the Bible. Thus the angel Raziel was able to create the Nephilim by having occult practicing-humans drink his blood from the Mortal Cup (something very similar to the Holy Grail of occult lore).

Interestingly, the first time The Lord put a specific prohibition against drinking or consuming blood, was right after Noah and his family stepped off of the ark:

And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat. – Genesis 9:1-4.

Having just stepped back on dry land for the first time since the destruction of the pre-flood world along with its Nephilim and angelic invaders, God’s first command was to not consume the blood of any creature. Because “the life” of a being is in its blood (something science has certainly borne out as we now know that blood carries our oxygen and DNA among other vital substances). The Mortal Instruments again changes God’s Word by making the drinking of blood a good thing and a means to save people. At the same time, it is promoting a practice done in the occult. For millennia, practitioners of high level magic have used blood drinking as a means to activate more demonic power.

Such a clear re-write of the Bible’s account is blasphemous and clearly takes evil and calls it good. More and more, movies, TV shows and novels are taking the history of the Biblical accounts and distorting them to promote exactly what God said was forbidden and evil. Do not be deceived.

Promotion of The Occult

The Shadowhunters use a church as their headquarters to train in witchcraft.

Similar to the Harry Potter book series (which The Mortal Instruments borrows liberally from – prior to writing the series the author was a Harry Potter fan fiction writer), there is a heavy promotion of the occult and black magic. The Nephilim Shadow Hunters are trained in magic and combat at “The Institute” a prep school for young Nephilim (a takeoff of the Hogwarts school of witchcraft in Harry Potter). The Institute is hidden in an old church (yet another affront to the Christian faith). As mentioned above a Nephilim can be created by drinking the blood of an angel from a mystical cup. Valentine, the villain in the film was able to “create” Clary through genetic manipulation, by tricking her then-pregnant mother into eating angel’s blood with her meals. At the institute, the Shadowhunters are trained in the occult and black magic. There is a garden and greenhouse on the top level to harvest plants and herbs best used for magic potions and spells.

The main character Clary, is introduced to the Nephilim because she has the ability to see into the spirit realm – what the film calls “The Sight.” This is a much desire power in witchcraft (in wicca it is often referred to as seeing auras). Clary’s ability initially shocks the Nephilim Shadowhunters who believe she is just a “mundane” but then learn that not only is she a Nephilim as well, but in her mind is the location of the Mortal Cup (the memory of the Cup and her supernatural past were blocked in her mind via a spell from a warlock). It is through visiting her neighbor, Madame Dorothea, a psychic, that Clary learns of the block on her memories. And thus the movie teaches that the occult is a means to learning about oneself, tapping into cool, supernatural ability and becoming a hero.

The movie website offers fans a free tarot card reading.

All of this is sinful and absolutely forbidden in the Bible. Deuteronomy 18 says:

When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch. Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee. Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God. – Deuteronomy 18:9-13.

Witchcraft, which is premised on contacting demonic and fallen angelic beings, is an abomination to God. They are not a means to “fight” demons (as the movie depicts) but instead is a way to access their power and ultimately be possessed by them. In the book of Acts, the Bible makes this clear:

And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying: The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation. And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour. – Acts 16:16-18.

The young woman had the psychic power of divination (being able to tell future events). But she only had the power through being possessed by a demon. This is a part of Satan’s plan. By enticing people into practicing magic, his demonic forces can corrupt a person and even control them with the hopes that person will die with no faith in God and go to hell. Not only do demons, also known as “unclean spirits” in the Bible, know who Jesus Christ is – they all fear Him:

And there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit; and he cried out, Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God. And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him. And when the unclean spirit had torn him, and cried with a loud voice, he came out of him. And they were all amazed, insomuch that they questioned among themselves, saying, What thing is this? what new doctrine is this? for with authority commandeth he even the unclean spirits, and they do obey him. And immediately his fame spread abroad throughout all the region round about Galilee. – Mark 1:23-28.

It is out of a desire to protect humanity from demons and evil spiritual beings that God forbids any type of dabbling with magic or the occult. These spiritual beings are far older wiser and powerful than people and seek to destroy humanity. [B&E: It is also this author’s contention that demons are in fact the spirits of the dead Nephilim].

The Nephilim in the film all wear rune tattoos which give them supernatural powers.

In The Mortal Instruments the Nephilim Shadowhunters in the film also manifest supernatural powers through the use of runes – tattoos of ancient symbols that are basically spells that give the Nephilim in the film magical powers. The rune tattoos are a major part of the powers of the Nephilim Shadowhunters:

“Runes, sometimes referred to as Marks, are markings used by the Nephilim. A stele is used to draw them and they have a variety of effects. Runes were markings given to the first generation of Shadowhunters by the Angel Raziel to assist them in fighting the Demons they were tasked to eradicate. Every rune known to the Shadowhunters is recorded in The Gray Book. This is a specially crafted book with each rune place in its pages. Copies of the book are rare because each book must be specially made as many of the runes would burn normal paper.
Runes are what make Shadowhunters different from average humans as they are the only beings able to bear the Angel’s marks. Most marks can only be worn by Shadowhunters. When drawn on mundanes, they burn. However, several marks, powerful ones, would drive any average person insane. They would be turned into Forsaken, mindless servants to the one who marked them, and they would never be the same.” (source).

The Nephilim Shadowhunters cut their flesh to give themselves the power of rune tattoos.

The Mortal Instruments book series references God’s punishment of Cain in Genesis. Cain, the first son of Adam and Eve, murdered his younger brother Abel. As a punishment, God banished him to be a fugitive on the Earth. As a sign of mercy, God then placed a mark on Cain as a warning to others not to murder the evil man in retribution. According to Mortal Instruments, this mark is “The Rune of Cain.”

The Mark of Cain, sometimes referred to as the Mark of the Wanderer, is a rune mentioned in the Bible. It was a protection mark meant to protect the bearer from anyone with the intent to harm him. Anyone who attempts to hurt anyone with the Mark on them will be punished sevenfold. Despite being a protection spell, it is also somehow a curse and punishment to the bearer as it prevents his or her death, the bearer is burdened with eternal life. (source).

Once again, the story twists the Biblical account to turn God’s mark upon Cain into a tool of witchcraft and a rune that any Shadowhunter can receive.

The movie website features a “Rune Journal” to learn more about the occult symbols.

Below are descriptions of the magical properties of runes from esoteric sources:

“From the German word raumen, meaning ‘secret’ or ‘mystery’. . . For witchcraft a rune is a magical chant. There are various rune alphabets used by occult groups”..(Mather, George A. and Larry Nichols, The Dictionary of Cults, Sects, Religions and the Occult, p. 235)
The Runes are secret, occult symbols used by Norse runemasters until the 17th century. Modern runemasters consult the runes to communicate with the subconscious self. Cathy Burns, Masonic Symbols

“Runes are the oldest form of occult knowledge and magic . . . their use sets a person against God.” (Sean Sellers, Web of Darkness, p. 72).

And this symbol is what Mortal Instruments has made a major tool for the “good guys” in the film. It is again the subtle twisting of God’s Words and replacing what is good and meant for humanity’s benefit with what is evil.
In the Levitical Law in the Bible given by God to the Israelites after the Exodus, cutting into the flesh was forbidden: “Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.”(Leviticus 19:28). The context of the chapter relates to the occult practices of the Egyptian nation the Israelites had just left in the exodus and the land of the Canaanites (the main area where the ancient Nephilim in the Bible resided), they were preparing to enter. In both nations, magic and mysticism were rampant. And cutting into the flesh or tattooing were methods of blood sand worship to the evil angels and demons masquerading as the ancient pagan gods. An example of this occurred in 1 Kings when the good Prophet Elijah, who was faithful to the God of The Bible challenges the occult priests of the pagan god Baal to a showdown to see who could call fire from Heaven.
At this point in ancient Israel’s history, the Israelite people, who God had chosen to bring His Word to the world and live as shining example of holy living, were deep into sinful rebellion, worshiping other gods and practicing all manner of witchcraft, led by the wicked King of Israel, Ahab and his wife Jezebel. Rather than serving God, Jezebel removed the Hebrew priesthood and instituted a priestly order in the worship of the Canaanite deity Baal. Just like society today, the occult had become fashionable and exciting, and people were willing to enter it, even if it meant sinning against God and risking His wrath. God sent a drought and famine upon Israel and the nation at large persisted in its sin. Soon Elijah went before King Ahab and issued the challenge for a spiritual battle against the priests of Baal:

And it came to pass, when Ahab saw Elijah, that Ahab said unto him, Art thou he that troubleth Israel? And he answered, I have not troubled Israel; but thou, and thy father’s house, in that ye have forsaken the commandments of the LORD, and thou hast followed Baalim. Now therefore send, and gather to me all Israel unto mount Carmel, and the prophets of Baal four hundred and fifty, and the prophets of the groves four hundred, which eat at Jezebel’s table. So Ahab sent unto all the children of Israel, and gathered the prophets together unto mount Carmel. And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word. Then said Elijah unto the people, I, even I only, remain a prophet of the LORD; but Baal’s prophets are four hundred and fifty men. Let them therefore give us two bullocks; and let them choose one bullock for themselves, and cut it in pieces, and lay it on wood, and put no fire under: and I will dress the other bullock, and lay it on wood, and put no fire under: – 1 Kings 18:17-23.

A bracelet worn by one of the Nephilim Shadowhunters. Which god to the “heroes” truly serve?

The challenge was for both sides to make a sacrifice of bulls on a wooden altar. And both the priests of Baal and Elijah would take turns calling on their respective gods to bring fire down from Heaven and burn the sacrifice. This contest was in front of the entire nation of Israel. Elijah, inspired by the Spirit of God, wanted to show the people once and for all, who the true God and Creator of the universe was – the God of the Bible. It was time to put the occult and black magic to test against faith in the True and Living God. The prophets of Baal went first:

And they took the bullock which was given them, and they dressed it, and called on the name of Baal from morning even until noon, saying, O Baal, hear us. But there was no voice, nor any that answered. And they leaped upon the altar which was made. And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked. And they cried aloud, and cut themselves after their manner with knives and lancets, till the blood gushed out upon them. And it came to pass, when midday was past, and they prophesied until the time of the offering of the evening sacrifice, that there was neither voice, nor any to answer, nor any that regarded. – 1 Kings 18:26-29.

Try as they did, the pagan gods did not respond to the prophets of Baal. All demons and fallen angels, created beings, are subject to the authority of God. And they were silenced on this day. And notice that in order to plead with their satanic lords, the priest of Baal started to cut their own flesh, to make blood sacrificial worship. So the Bible makes it very clear that this practice was done specifically as an act of worship to demonic beings.
In The Mortal Instruments one of the elite Shadowhunters, Brother Jeremiah, as a part of a special devotion to their witchcraft, enhances his power by mutilating his body, gouging out his eyes and sewing his mouth shut.

When it was the prophet Elijah’s turn to call fire, he had a trench built around the altar with water and poured water onto the wood. He left nothing to chance for any charge of “cheating.” And then he called upon the Lord:

And it came to pass at the time of the offering of the evening sacrifice, that Elijah the prophet came near, and said, LORD God of Abraham, Isaac, and of Israel, let it be known this day that thou art God in Israel, and that I am thy servant, and that I have done all these things at thy word. Hear me, O LORD, hear me, that this people may know that thou art the LORD God, and that thou hast turned their heart back again. Then the fire of the LORD fell, and consumed the burnt sacrifice, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust, and licked up the water that was in the trench. And when all the people saw it, they fell on their faces: and they said, The LORD, he is the God; the LORD, he is the God. – 1 Kings 18:36-39.

After this stunning victory, Elijah had the people slay all of the priests of Baal, a foreshadow of the fate of all of those who put their trust in the occult and reject God’s offer of salvation and forgiveness of sins.
Another example of flesh cutting was the demon possessed man, Jesus Christ encountered in chapter Mark 5. This man was so powerful, he was kept in a remote graveyard in chains. And he used stones to cut into his flesh.

The occult is ultimately a system of control used by Satan to lure people into sin and away from faith in God. It does not have the answers to true peace. It does not bring salvation. And it is inferior to the power of God and The Lord Jesus Christ. When a demon-possessed man encountered Jesus they shuddered in fear and worshiped him. Today many book series, movies and TV shows have promoted the occult to the extreme, luring unsuspecting viewers and readers into sin. Do not be deceived.

Clary Fray – The Prophesied “Savior”

Clary goes from a “mundane” life to being the savior.

Just like fictional character Harry Potter, Clary Fray, the lead character in Mortal Instruments, plays the role of the prophesied “Chosen One” – a super-powerful hero who her fellow god-like beings have been waiting on to determine the fate of the world. Although her life starts off as a “mundane”, Clary goes through an occult awakening that unleashes her hidden powers. The Bible prophesies that the Antichrist, the Satanically-empowered false Messiah who will rule the earth for 3 ½ years before the Second Coming of Christ, will be received as the world’s savior, dazzling the populace with his supernatural abilities: “Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders.” (2 Thessalonians 2:9).

Clary Fray’s tremendous power is due to her own lineage. The villain in the film, who seeks to impose a Nazi-like, extermination program of all inferiors, turns out to be her father. So like the Antichrist, Clary is the seed of the ultimate villain and source of evil in the world of The Mortal Instruments.

Valentine, the Satan-type figure in the film, turns out to be Clary’s father.

Like Clary and the other Nephilim in the film, Antichrist will be a true occult practitioner. And his powers, including coming back from the dead, will deceive the world to the point that they worship him as god:

and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. And they worshipped the dragon [Satan] which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?” – Revelation 6:3-4.

In the end times, the God-rejecting world will be so deceived, they will be lured into open satanic worship, focused on the Antichrist, the “seed of the serpent.” And the Antichrist will demand this worship under penalty of death. Just like Israel in the days of Elijah, the occult will have taken over society, save for those who remain faithful to God and believe in Jesus Christ as their Savior. He will blaspheme the God of the Bible openly, but society, so lured into sinful rebellion, will still love their false hero.

Clary and Jace share their first kiss in The Garden.

In The Mortal Instruments film, Clary, the heroine and “good person” has an incestuous relationship with her brother, Jace. At the same time, there is a love triangle as another Nephilim, who is a gay male, is also romantically interested in her brother. Clary and her love interest/brother Jace, also happen to share their first kiss of their forbidden romance in the Garden at the Institute (yet another subtle allusion to the Garden of Eden and a perversion of the Bible). Yet all sexual immorality is overlooked (and the movie even attempts to evoke sympathy for the heroes who did not initially know they were related but still want an intimate relationship after learning they are siblings – though in a confusing twist in a later sequel they learn they are in fact not siblings). The spirit behind this film is clearly against the Spirit of God.
The Antichrist will institute a system of control over the world via the Mark of The Beast. This is a mark that goes into the right hand or forehead to control commerce:

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. – Revelation 13:16-17.

Taking the mark is a permant pledge to the seed of Satan and leads to damnation for those take it. Interestingly, in the The Mortal Instruments, it is a mystical mark in her hand that identifies Clary Fary as a Nephilim and the potential “savior” of the world.

Clary just happens to have a distinguishing occult mark in her hand.

The Desire To Be More Than Human

Fans show off their runes at a book signing held at St. James Church in London, England.

Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices. – 2 Corinthians 2:11.

But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. – 2 Corinthians 11:3-4.

Whether it is Harry Potter, Twilight, True Blood, Vampire Diaries or the other numerous television shows and films that are promoting the occult, there is a strong effort in pop culture to indoctrinate society into the world of magic and spiritualism. And movies like The Mortal Instruments, excite fans and make them envy the abilities and attraction of their witchcraft-practitioner heroes.

Sinful Rebellion or Eternal Life – Make The Right Choice

“For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.”– John 3:17.

I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. – John 10:9-11.

The Mortal Instruments: City of Bones film will no doubt be a global box office success. And while it is easy to say “it’s just a movie” what must be remembered is that it is part of an enormous trend by pop culture to promote the occult, witchcraft and distort the message of God. This film has clearly and intentionally taken aspects of the Biblical account and subtly changed them to turn those who are pure evil into good. And in the whole film, there is not a mention of God, who created angels and humans alike. As society moves deeper into sinful rebellion, remember that there is a real spirit realm. The Nephilim, evil hybrid beings who were out to destroy humanity did exist. Angels and demons are very real. But none of them will be there on the day a person is judged before God. At that point it will be you and the true Creator and God of the Bible. And since all people have sinned, that equates to a guilty verdict and damnation. But the good news is that God, in His mercy, sent Jesus Christ, the real Savior, to give His life as the perfect sacrifice to atone for the sins of humanity.
And it only takes faith in Jesus for the forgiveness of sins – not a sacrifice, spell or tattoo, to receive eternal life. As with most movies of this genre, the Mortal Instruments makes no mention of sin or its consequences. Because if you are god, why worry? This is Satan’s deception. The Devil does not want society to think about their guilt before God. By ignoring God’s commands, going deeper into false religions and self-satisfaction a person is more likely to ignore their fate until it is too late and they are dead in their sins and sent to hell.

The world is indeed moving more divided between God’s righteous way and the occult. And the prophet Elijah’s question to Israel is just as relevant today: “How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him.” All the powers of the occult are no match for the love of Jesus Christ. Choose love, forgiveness and eternal life that can be found in Him. And the true Savior will protect your soul from the forces of evil forever.

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Thank you for such a well documented piece of work, makes me almost want to watch the film, to check out the symbolism, but I guess this defeats the object. And I know the hold these films have on people, as they are designed to captivate, elevate the individuals ego, and romanticise evil. Yes it all started with little Harry Potter, and now that generation has grown up, their appetite for the super natural will be quenched by the satanic entertainment they’d been use to as children.
It’s very scary to watch as blind sheep, people becoming engrossed in such esoteric entertainment. It’s become an escapism from the mundane world of uncertainty, itnto a fantasy world where anything is possible, and dreams may be fulfilled.
All this is stepping stones into deeper and darker ways to get in touch with our so called inner powers, which the rulers of this world are trying to dum down. Before they know it they are meddling in things which appear to be innocent, but are the gateway and portals to allowing lying demons to make you believe you have a special purpose in this world, that’s how it usually starts. Exactly how it was with Eve, they sow the seed and before long your running with the bait. Best to not touch or look at the unclean thing in the first place. Jesus didn’t warn us against such things for no reason, we should heed his words
and shame the devil.

when arriving from their home land. Not some harry Potter school!!!! The institute is made of basic needs the nephlim are given access to! The library is because they can’t use phones or computers inside the institute, just like they can’t use them in their home land! There is a kitchen which is made use of by the nephlim teenagers that are forced to stay in the institute because their family is banned from their home land after joining THE CIRCLE a group Valentine led to believe he was improving the clave. I beg of you that you read one book just one single book before judging so heinously for a film that misrepresented the writers intent! As every novel that is used for a film has been in the past….you have missed the love,compassion,loyalty,forgiveness, faith and pure humanity that is the core of this novel the teenage generation of nephlim that fight valentine are a representation of nephlim trying to be better than their ancestors,trying to reclaim their humanity by following the lead of clary /Clarissa who is a young women who is strong,kind,insightful, forgiving and who accepts every creature with a soul weather they be of angel decent or demon…Clary believes in humanity,the power of love and forgiveness to create a world where peace is not just a dream but a future she creates for her family and herself. I spent many days in church,wore a cross everyday,praised the god I believed to be my creator and guidance through the hardest times in my life and yet when surrounded by people listening to the same messages I read from the bible I found myself surrounded by strangers who cast more judgement than they did forgiveness and who spread more gossip and lies than love and faith….you see the world as good and evil yet the proof that there is no such distinct line looks you in the miror,you are human and have faults and while you may worry about the children and their influences from the media I can tell you truthfully that the most influential people in their lives are their parents and if you are worried about how they may be affected then it is because you have no trust in the way you’ve raised them and that your faith is not what you make it out to be….there will always be things in the world you have no control over and considering this has been a problem since the beginning of time why don’t you rather focus on correcting your own faults rather than seeking out others….I hope you have the intelligence to understand what it is I’m trying to defend here….its not the sinful nephlim but the novel itself and the story that inspired a poorly informed film. God bless you and may your hearts recognise forgiveness and intuition.

Thanks for your comments. I’m sorry for the harsh experience you had in your church. But understand, that ALL people, myself definitely included, are sinners. No one is exempt. So in a church setting (especially with so many churches today not actually preaching or teaching the Bible accurately), you can have a bad social experience. But that does not have any reflection upon the Bible – which is God’s Word and expression of His love and plan of salvation for all of humanity. The Bible repeatedly shows its “heroes” falling into sin upon sin, and being punished for it. All of humanity will continue to hurt each other until we are fully reconciled to God. In your comments, you indicated that you believe Satan may be deceiving people. You’re right. He is and seeks to set up a world system where we indict God and the church, but never point any fingers of condemnation his way. Where we can trust our own judgment and feel no need for God. This is all a deception. The Lord Jesus Christ said of the Devil: “… He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” (John 8:44). Pop culture is an avenue that Satan has used excessively to spread a false message of human glorification, love of self and rebellion against any “old-fashioned” rules or restrictions. Do not be deceived.

We all are born into sin and guilty before The Lord for the thousands of sins we have committed in our lives. And the punishment for this is damnation. But God, in His love for us, provided a way for free forgiveness: believing in The Lord Jesus Christ – the Son of God and Savior of humanity. Jesus Christ said:

” For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” – John 3:17-18.

God wants us reconciled. But we have to be willing to humble ourselves, acknowledge our sin and cry out to Him. And it is my sincere prayer you experience His infinite love. God bless. -B&E

Okay so this may seem delayed considering its 2017 but since I am a woman who grew up watching buffy the vampire slayer,blade,supernatural,charmed and many other supernatural films and series and I’d like to point out how you attacked the movie but never mentioned the book which explains the very nature of this specific supernatural story, people of my generation think more deeply of things and do proper research before shaming a movie based on an amazing novel written by a hard working,good natured writer trying to make a living and support their family and seeing the comments on this page shocked me and utterly revolted me in ways I couldn’t think possible, the article its self was absolute nonsense seeing as all the information wasn’t brought to light while they continued to make false accustions and you may not think the novel matters but I can promise you that majority of the movies viewers had previously read all the mortal instruments books and only watched the movie because of the quality in writing and emotional, mental and spiritual revalations. The Clave was wrong in thinking themselves better than any other life on earth and the characters of the book mention it relentlessly every chance they have. The clave was made up of people set in their ways, their upbringing and their faith that they were creatures of the divine and that is why they have failed in every confrontation to stop valentine whom just like you believed all nephlim were tainted and evil and sought to wipe them all out except those who believed in his plans and ideals and with the cup he would create new shadow hunters of pure heart and immense power but he more than any one was obsessed with feeling as though the angel betrayed the nephlim by leaving them weak where wolves were stronger,vampires faster and warlocks the ability of witchcraft yet the main characters like luke,the uncle was a werewolf and constantly wished he weren’t, simon the best friend was a vampire and only ever wanted the life of a human with normality and peaceful retirement but instead he is forced to rise as a vampire because Clarissa couldn’t bear a world without him, she was selfish yes but this is a human flaw that the novel expresses in a way so moving you relate as though we know it true to our harts that to love is to be selfish because we cannot love at a distance without destroying our selves. You make so many things about the story sound terrible like the institute….the institute was a sanctuary in the novel! A place to seek refuge had any nephlim need its services when arriving from their home land. Not some harry Potter school!!!! The institute

Could be all that is called the LIE ,,, Satan LIE since the Beginning of Time ???
Why God will send THEM Great Delusion??? cuz they CHOSE to believe the LIE instead of TRUTH ,,,

2 Thessalonians 2

King James Version (KJV)

2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,

17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.

Jesus said I am the Way the Truth and the Life and no man cometh unto the Father but by me ???

John 14:6-7
King James Version (KJV)

6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Ok apologies I get you now, I didn’t actually notice that they were in a church signing the books and wearing symbols, thanks for mentioning that.
It just confirms what it says in the book of Revelations, that the Christian church would become apostate in the last days. Rev 18:4 “I heard another voice from heaven, saying, “Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues”
How do we know that they are speaking about the church?
Rev 18-22,23 The sound of harps, singers, flutes, and trumpets will never be heard in you again. No craftsmen and no trades will ever be found in you again. The sound of the mill will never be heard in you again. The light from a lamp will never shine within you again. The voice of a bridegroom and bride will never be heard within you again. For your merchants were the important people of the world, and all the nations were deceived by your witchcraft.
If you think about the church the bible says Babylon the great and her daughter harlots. The churches are not teaching the truth, instead they are deeply involved in paganism, the cross is a pagan sign, easter eggs and bunnies esoteric belief, christmas, triad gods, idols and now the gradual acceptance of gay marriage and even worse 95% of churches are part of the “world council of churches” which are forming the ecumenical movement which is the union of of different faiths under one god, which is not Yahweh/Yehowah/Jehovah..so I guess signing an occult book in the church is them showing their true colours as to who they really serve.

Hi Rets.
To answer your question, not only what you just mentioned stroke me when I saw the picture, but I confess that whilst reading the comments I was getting slightly worried about the fact that nobody seemed to have noticed. So thank you for bringing that up. Unbelievable…
This just proves how the “world”, in the biblical sense, is slowlw but surely spreading in the last days’ church…
The narrow path is getting narrower…
B&E, I’m glad I stumbled into your blog.
Keep up the good work.
God bless.

I’m so thankful that I don’t have children to raise in this fallen world! My prayers go out for all of you who are fighting to keep your kids away from demonic influences like this. Bless you B&E for giving us the heads up about this movie.

Thanks so much for this.I know we have differences of opinion on things, but you are well versed in the Bible. I went and saw this with my sisters (them and the girls were ‘dying’ to see it). i was very upset with the movie. but it’s amazing what people believe. we are all christians, but my sister was arguing with me all the way home how it’s a bible based book (well to a small degree yes) how the writier is a christian and trying to get people into the bible and god (she’s a self proclaimed “jew, and not religious”). not that I care. I don’t even care that there are “evil movies” out there. what does bother me a lot is the sheer amount of “godliness” that has little to nothing to do with actual godliness or is directly opposed to what the bible ( and specifically Jesus) stands for.

I am stunned to see this, I have to admit great work on exposing the Devil’s illusions in the movies. I have always thought that these types of movies have showed and romanticized evil, portraying them as ‘good’ when they are truly ‘evil’. The world has just taken hold on it, and welcomed it. It is just sad to see that. The thing is though one has to distinguish between Fact and Fiction of these movies and to raise children in knowing the difference between them. I am a christian by faith, believe in Jesus Christ, the LORD GOD, Our one True GOD Almighty, praise him, I’ve read the Bible and believe it with my whole heart. I was taught about the Lord Jesus Christ. I have been baptized and saved, and I will not blinded by what has been shown in these movies. I have see much of these types of movies, simply learning about em, but not believing in what I see on TV and some of these shows have terrible plots, but anyway I have to say, you hit the nail on the head with this one. Now, I have watched TrueBlood, Vampire Diaries and such, they are to me a ‘fictional’ series, and nothing more than that…I do know however, that there is real evil in the world, and we have to be wary of it, and watchful like Jesus taught us. There is a God and a Devil, Angels, and Demons and we humans are just pieces of pawns on chessboard half the time who can be corrupted or saved depending on if we believe and repent for our sins. I have a child myself, I keep him in Church, and teach him about Jesus Christ, from kids bible books. This is a tough world of Good and Evil, but I have been seeing mostly evil within the world, and am very disgusted with it. I am very disgusted with the fact that gays are allowed to marry, and the world has become one big sinful place like Sodom and Gamora. Churches preach the wrong things at times, but there are a few churches, that truly peach GOD’s word (Those are the ones you have to seek out). I feel that upon seeing so much movies romanticizing evil, I must say is disturbing to see. I only hope and pray to God that HE will keep our Children’s eyes open, and to be wary of evil. It is also up to the parents as well to teach their kids right from wrong, to teach them about GOD and Jesus Christ, and also what is fiction within the movies, and what is fact, and what is real in life. In that we can triumph over evil, as long as we have Jesus Christ in our hearts. God Bless you all.

I just saw the film and I have NEVER seen more blatant occult symbolism in a movie in my life! It’s right out there in your face! My 14 year-old said the same thing. Educate your children about this stuff because this is a common theme in all entertainment. They claimed in the film that the main symbol was an angelic symbol but it is the symbol of Baphomet!
Make sure your kids understand what they are seeing because it’s everywhere!

Thank you for this article. It was VERY thorough! God bless you and may He increase you in grace and wisdom!
Here are some christian poems I’ve written. Free to download. Be blessed!https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/105177

After repenting and turning to God through faith in Jesus, and a little later my baptism, I slowly began to see the evil in the things I used to love, like certain T.V. programs and videogames. It didn’t take too long before I stopped watching TV altogether, but it took a little longer to get detached from the games.
That was around 4 years ago now.
These days, any time I do happen to catch something of a TV program or videogame or movie poster, I am just shocked by the fact that in such a short time, things have become so much darker and more grotesque. So openly occult and sinful. It is really quite worrysome and I’m glad God called me out of it, or I would probably still love to emerse myself into such things.
I did have some kind of standard or boundaries I guess, which prevented me from getting into the really horrible stuff, but at the same time the kinds of games I was playing were already very heavy on the occult, and boundaries are easily moved a little.

I can testify of the gradual conviction God layed on me regarding these things, but it is very hard to get other Christians to see why I think we shouldn’t be getting so emersed into occult inspired entertainment.
At a minimum, I know only to approach the argument from a content level, that is to say “why are we identifying ourselves with occult practices in entertainment media, when in the real world, this would put us under the wrath of God?” “Why do we love to do the things in our imagination (through playing videogames), that we would hate to do in real life? There seems to be a disconnect there. Especially for the Christian.”
I cannot say or proof that the playing of such games actually has the effect of creating witches or murderers or whatever. But even if it is supposedly harmless entertainment, why “play” out the things in your imagination, that God has forbidden in reality? It makes no sense to me.

I understand that people get upset when we voice or concerns with movies, books and games, like is done on this website. I understand that you don’t like people telling you not to do or watch the things you love. I loved a lot of things that turned out to be bad, before God called me back to Him. With more or less pain and tears I was convinced and convicted to let go of some activities and ways of life.
I had been working for years on a project that was heavily inspired by videogames, movies and whatnot. It was going to be my life goal and work to complete a story that should have become a book, movie or game. I became convinced that this story was not going to honour God, and I prayed and tried hard to think of ways to make the story a reflection of the gospel, but it just could not be done. The only way to honour God with it, turned out to be by abandoning the project altogether. It would have been unthinkable at first, for me to let all this go, but it was surprisingly easy to do in the end.

I think people need to understand that the Biblical Christian is not interested or called by Jesus to control what believers or non-believers do or watch or play [what would it benefit anyone if a non-believer was under such control but still going to hell because there was never personal repentence and restoration?]. Despite how it may come across from some people, this is not the intention of the believer, nor is it the Gospel.
You have to understand that Christians will reason from the Worldview that arrives from the revelation of God through Scripture. We believe in God, and we believe in the existence of evil forces that are opposed to God in a very real and active sense. We believe that we (Christians) too are sinners who used to oppose God, in word and deed. We were in that respect friends of the devil. When we came to understand our condition, and that we were under Gods wrath and condemnation for our rebellion against Him, we were also offered the way to salvation, that is the forgiveness of sins and the restoration to a right relationship to God, through the work of Jesus Christ, who we believe claimed to be, and is indeed Gods Son.
It is because we have come to love God who saved us, and because we now understand that the things we once did were acts of rebellion against Him, that we no longer want to do those acts, but will gradually grow into people who do the acts that correspond with Gods good nature and will.

Now, because we understand the world from this point of view, it is therefor that we will want to warn people, believers and unbelievers, to, among other things, examine the contents of videogames and movies and hold them up to what Gods good will is, as found in the Bible and as derived from its principles. It isn’t just a matter of what the immediate effects are of emersing yourself in occult themed media outings. Even if there are no side effects, I would argue that it is vain to be entertained by these things. If it does have side effects, then there is even more reason to abondon them.
But all in all, I guess we are not saying “Hey, you’re going to hell for playing these games, or because you watch these movies.” Biblically speaking, we go to hell because in our totality, we rebel against God and this shows in many aspects of our life and behavior, including our speech, thinking and of course our actual acts. Despite Gods patience and good will in providing most of us with life and food every day, we do not forfit our evil ways. And that really is a sad state. Certain videogames, movies, TV shows, may well just be a reflection of that stubborn way.
[I am withholding judgment on whether videogame makers consciously make their games as an attack on God or Christianity. At the very least I see a curious interest in mythology and the occult and wonder why so many games carry these themes and wonder why it interests people so much.]

If we have not received Gods forgiveness for our sins, hell is our destiny. God will put us there personaly (not the devil in case someone is confused about that), so our problem is with Him and can only be solved through Him. We cannot do this by doing good things to cover up for the evil ones. The only way is to accept the offer that God Himself gave as the means through which to be forgiven: the sacrifice of Jesus, who did not sin and suffered the punishment for our sins voluntarily, as per design of God the Father. Then, as a reasonable response, we will continue to do away with our old evil ways and put on the ways that are in line with Gods good character and will.

Now, I get that people may well have a different world view, and because of that you are likely to reject these things. I understand that. If you see no harm or evil in these media outings, you may well enjoy them and never see a reason not to.
However, you have to wonder. Looking through the recent history of visual media and electronic entertainment, why is there such an emphasis on things that you would readily reject in the kind of world as shown in the Bible? Why is our “entertainment” filled with sorcery, murder, sex, demons, spiritual things and gods”? Why is there a growing interest in the darkness, in the end of the world, and all things against God? Why is this line going up, not down? Why do we fill our minds with this? What is the attraction?
Are people just venting their frustration with church and religion in fantastical stories, as a reaction to this generation, or is there something deeper, something more serious underneath all this?

Hi, My Name is Noelle and I am 23 Years Old. I am a Christain and I have been a Christain Since I was 13 Years Old. I am So GLAD to See that YOU Love GOD. but As a Fellow Christain I have to Say that YOU are WRONG about this Movie and Other Movies Like it. This Movie is NOT Evil, a Sin, or of the Devil! I LOVE This Movie and I’ve seen it Twice. It’s a Good, Sweet, and Fun Movie to Watch! I Love Other Movies Like Harry Potter and Twilight and More Movies Like those! I have ALL the Harry Potter DVD’s and I have ALL the Twilight Saga DVD’s! First of ALL You just Say that these are Just Movies because that’s ALL They are. They are FAKE and MADE UP, They are NOT Really. God Cares about Real People and Real Things, He DOESN’T Care about Fake People and Fake Things. God Doesn’t Care about the Movie Jassic Park or Scooby Doo because They’re WHAT NOT REAL! Harry Potter is NOT Real and Lot of Kids and Teenagers KNOW that. There is a Flying Car in Harry Potter, Oh wait Cars Don’t FLY, So it’s FAKE. There is a Gaint Talking Spider and a Really BIG SNAKE. Those things that I just Talked about are FAKE! God Cares about Real People and Kids doing WitchCraft, HE Does NOT Care about People doing Fake Magic because the KEY Word is FAKE Magic! I HAPPIELY and GLADLY Work at BOTH Universal Studios in Orlando, Fl and I Work at Disney World too! Universal Studios Orlando has a Harry Potter World Part of it’s Theme Park. So if YOU Say that Harry Potter the Books and Movies are Evil or a Sin then What Next, Are YOU going to Say that it’s Evil or a Sin to go to Universal because of the Harry Potter Stuff????????????????????????? I can See that YOU Love God but SADLY YOU Don’t Really Know God. GOD is LOVE! God is NOT MEAN and God is NOT Unfair. God Cares about Really People and Things. God, Doesn’t Care about Fake Monsters, People Who are Just Acting and Made Up Things!

Hi Noelle S,
As a fellow Christian, I think your heart is i the right place, but you have become slightly blinded, by the subtle influence of the prince of darkness. Remember, the bible say the ruler of this world is lucifer/satan,
dont forget he was the one who offered Jesus ALL the kingdoms of the world if he rendered him worship.
He does the same thing today, but he is less conspicuous, he has to be as he wants to take as many souls with him as possible, as he knows his days are numbered.

The scriptures say that in the last the days bad will be good and good would be bad, he has very craftily made everything which God hates into something mankind should desire. He has romanticised vampirism and super human power which was once possessed by the nephilim/greek demi gods.. He put’s ideas into the hearts of men that they can achieve immortality with out God. The bible says “no wonder for satan himself keeps transforming into an angel of light” he is a master of manipulation he has had thousands of years to study the lusts & weaknesses of mankind.

Any form of participation in occult activities, whether it be books, movies, harry potter they are all made for one purpose, to lead you away from the true light of righteousness. If Jesus was hear in the flesh today, do you really think he would find any of this entertaining? or do you think he would say “quit touching the unclean thing and I will take you in” what has light to do with darkness?

Before Christ returns we have to sifted, and purified and cleansed of anything associated with darkness.
Jesus himself said,
Mathew 7:22″ Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22″Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23″And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’

From the above scripture we can see that many who call themselves Christians and who even carry out so called Christian practices, will be cast off by Jesus..and that’s because they took no note of the TRUTH..but carried on associating with aspostate churches/christians who thought that the new charismatic teachings and free christian spirit was all cool and had no major significance.

1) His kingdom is no part of this world(John 18:36)

2) his followers should be no part of this world(John 17:16)

3) Satan is the ruler of this world(John 12:31; 14:30; 16:11)

Keep these three things in mind, and know that the world is passing away, and he who does the desire of God remains for ever.

LOL. I am Watch the Last Twilight Movie, Right NOW! It’s SUCH a Cool and Good Movie. First of ALL Your The ONE that has it WRONG NOT ME! Thanks for thinking that your Right though. YOU are WRONG! Satan has TRICKED YOU! He has gotten YOU to Believe that God is MEAN and that God has Nothing better to do then to Care about Fake Movies, that are about Fake People and Fake Things! God Cares About REAL People, REAL Movies, and REAL Things, NOT FAKE People, FAKE and MADE UP Movies, and FAKE Things. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE Tell ME HOW Harry Potter is REAL????????? Harry Potter is FAKE and MADE UP! Harry Potter is NOT a REAL Person! So Please Tell ME HOW Harry Potter is REAL??????????? The Magic in Harry Potter is ALL FAKE and MADE UP! So if YOU Say the Magic in HP is Real then YOUR WRONG. The Magic in Harry Potter is ALL FAKE, Hollywood Made the Fake Magic. If YOU can’t Tell that Harry Potter is FAKE and ALL the Magic and Places in the Movie are FAKE, then YES, Satan has TRICKED YOU Big Time. If YOU Know a Real Gaint Talking Spiders then PLEASE Let ME Know. If YOU think Harry Potter is Real and Evil, then I guess YOU Think and Believe that Scooby Doo is REAL and Evil too????????? PLEASE ALSO TELL ME HOW Twilight is REAL????????????? Do YOU SADLY think Twilight is Really REAL, Don’t YOU?????????????????? If YOU think Twilight is REAL then YOU Must BE One of those CRAZY and WEIRD People that think Vampires are Real!!!!!!!!???????????? FYI, Vampires are NOT REAL, Vampires are FAKE and MADE UP! Vampires DO NOT Exist and they have NEVER Existed. Someone Long Time Made Up Stories about Vampires and SADLY Some DUMB Believed those Stories. Sometimes People Believe in LIES and FAKE Stories. Vampires are NOT Real! God does NOT Care if People Watch Movies and Read Books about FAKE and Made Up Monsters ans Stuff because God Knows it’s NOT REAL. God Cares about Movies that have Drugs in them, People having None Marriage Sex, and Movies that Put Him Down, that’s what God Cares about. God doesn’t Care about Books and Movies about Vampires!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Again, I Say Vampires are NOT REAL and TRUE Christains Know that! So If YOU think and believe that Vampires are Real then I am SORRY that Satan has TRICKED YOU that Badly. Now, Just because Someone Drinks Bloodd Does NOT MAKE Them a Vampire, ALL that Makes them is a SICK and TWISTED Person, WHO Needs Help. Be Honest HOW Many TRUE REAL Vampires DO YOU Know?????????????????? Like I said Before I WORK at Universal Studios Orlando and I WORK at Disney World! Do YOU think and Believe those two Theme Parks are Evil and a Sin to go to??????????????? YOU Say Harry Potter is Evil and a Sin, Well Universal Studios in Orlando, Fl has a Harry Potter World Part of there theme Park and Universal is Building More Harry Potter Stuff. So is Universal Studios is Evil or a Sin to go to???????????? cuase if Your going to Put the HP Books and Movies Down then YOU have to Put Down the HP Rides, Shops, Foods, and Other Stuff! God is a Fair God! So If YOU think God doesn’t like the HP Books and Movies then God Wouldn’t Like the HP Part of Universal Studios. and If Harry Potter is Evil then So is Snow White because there is a Witch in Snow White! Also I have Meet and Talked to One of the Actors from Twilight. He was One of the Werewolf Boys. His Name is Booboo Stewart. I meet Him and His Whole Family. They are a Sweet and Good Christain Family. Booboo Stewart is an Amazing, Nice, and Sweet Christain Guy. So Don’t YOU DARE Say that HE is Wrong for being in Twilight! God is LOVE! God is AMAZING! I Know that and Him and His Family Know that too! Please Answer ALL the ?’s that I asked YOU! Please and Thank You 🙂 .

While it’s all fine and dandy that you know that the subject material presented in these fictional works is fake, a lot of the source material that these writers gather inspiration on is quite real. Witchcraft is quite real, as are those who believe in drinking the blood of others, etc.

These forms of “entertainment” are there to lure the unsuspecting viewer into taking these so called “fake” ideas and make them their own. Can you say entirely that those who watch these things won’t try to perform them themselves? That’s the problem. They pull the glory away from God, and focus instead on fleshly things. Sexual promiscuity that’s promoted in many of these films does not glorify our Father, but shame Him for their content.

Many of those who are in the entertainment industry make these types of films and books to turn your heart away from God and his Son. It’s working in wonders. When was the last time you saw a mainstream movie promote loving and worshipping Jesus? Most of the time, Jesus is only mentioned when used as a profanity. This is okay?

God will NOT be mocked. I’m glad you love Him, and I pray that He further reveal to you the sinful nature of these popular movies and books.

Hi Noelle.
Very humbly and without an agenda to quarrel, I would like to point out that the matter here is not what God is interested in, but what Satan is interested in. He’s interested in brainwashing the new generations, in shifting the priorities from God’s priorities to his ones. He’s interested in taking control over young lives through changing their mentalities. He wants people to think that good is bad and bad is good. By succeeding he will make sure that people will welcome anything he might impose, the antichrist eventually. If you believe this is a gross exaggeration, think of the incidents of the Blue Whale “game”. Satan knows how human mind works and he uses every mean to achieve his goals. Movies have proved to be a very powerful media.
I teach children and believe me: they are very gullible! Whilst you have the reasoning to watch these films you like and keep being yourself, they do get deeply influenced and their whole persona acts according to the new videogame, film, series they are following at the time. It’s very hard to erase certain beliefs or habits once they have been impressed on and in children.

You say that the devil is trying to manipulate people into believing that what’s wrong is right and what’s right is wrong and there may be truth to that but also consider the difference between an enlightened mind a mind that has grow to know forgiveness,love,kindness and acceptance and a mind that has been neglected,judged and shamed…. People raised the correct way know in their hearts their core where they stand with their morals and the lines they’d never cross because their compassion acts as a shield against evil influence…judging those who watch there films or read novels of this nature will not help you in your battle, you are weakening people and making them despise you and the way you behave toward them making yourselves their enemy…Satan will take advantage of these people and without your acceptance of their perception and opinions they will never listen to anything you preach, you cannot change people or their upbringing but you can show them general kindness that every person can toward another without hidden resentment or judgement otherwise you are no better than Satan himself…god is a collection of all things pure in this world they may not seem GOOD at some times but they are necessary, kindness,love,hope joy,faith,respect and acceptance. You do not have to like these people or love them but accept them and offer to listen if they need to talk…just listen and perhaps you may see why they believe the things that they do and it is not for you to say they are wrong just as they should not say that your belief is wrong. Acceptance will restore humanity.

Thanks for your comments. I truly appreciate your perspective as I believe the desire to promote “acceptance” comes from a very genuine longing for peace among all people. However, I have to disagree with your premise. We all judge others. You yourself refer to people “raised the correct way” – clearly judging those who you think weren’t raised “appropriately” and thus are more evil than other you deem raised “right.” And your entire comment is judging this article as being wrong and weakening others.

But beyond that, I would submit that if something is spiritually harmful and we do not warn others, we are not being kind. In fact we are being the opposite. The entire goal of the article is to highlight the spiritual deception and dangers of books/movies like Mortal Instruments. It is sometimes hard to hear because like lots of pop culture entertainment, we grow very personally attached to it due to its high entertainment value. But that is no reason to excuse its sinful influence. The Bible says: “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.” (Ephesians 5:11). To “reprove” means to expose. And that is what this site is committed to doing so that all souls will have an opportunity to believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ and receive the salvation of their souls. We are only in this world a short time. But the fate of our souls will carry on forever. So if criticizing a deceptive movie to point someone away from eternity is “judging” then yes, we are judging. But doing so in accordance with God’s Word. Thanks again for your thoughts and may God bless you abundantly. -B&E

“For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” – Romans 10:13.

This is to Venice and Anyone Else who wants to Read IT! Venice, You were Kind of Right about People thinking God and Satan are Not Real. Yes that is TRUE! but Vampires, Twilight, HP, and Other Stuuf like Those, Don’t Compare them to God and Satan because That Makes NO SINCE! That’s Like Comparing Air and Vampires! Air is REAL, NO YOU Can’t SEE AIR but WE Breathe it in Everyday but Vampires are Fake! Comparing God and Satan to AIR Makes SINCE! NO, WE Don’t SEE God and Satan but If YOU Look With Your Heart and Mind then YES YOU Can See BOTH God and Satan and You can Know they are Real! I Love Halloween! YOU Might be One of these Crazy and Wrong Christains that Does NOT like Halloween and Think Halloween is a Sin, Evil, or Satan’s day??????????????? If YOU Are then I FEEL Really, REALLY SORRY for YOU! If YOU are Okay with Halloween then let ME Say this??????????????? Halloween is NOT A Sin, Evil, or the Devil’s day! Halloween is God’s Cause EveryDay is God’s DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Halloween is a FUN Kids and ther Family to Dress Up, Get and Eat Candy, and Show Off God’s Love through a Family having Fun together. There are Some Christains that I will Quotes some Scriptures to TRY and PROVE that Halloween is So Evil, So Bad, and Such a Sin! but Then Again Maybe YOU are One of those Christains! Venice, Are YOU one of those SAD and WRONG Christains that thinks Halloween is a Sin or Evil???????????????????????????????????? Like I Siad in My Other Long Message Above this One. Yes, YOU Quote Scriptures but That Doesn’t Matter, if YOU get them WRONG or YOU Make them Out to How YOU want them to BE! YOU Said Movies and Books Like Twilight, HP, COBTMI, and Others are NOT of the Light! That is TRUE when YOU Say it Like That! Yes, Movies Like those are NOT about the Light but there NOT, NOT of the Light! The Light of the Word is Jesus and YES those Movies Don’t have Jesus in Them because there Not about Jesus! First of ALL NOT ALL Books, Movies, TV Shows, and Music have to Jesus in Them to be of the Light. If the Person WHO Writes the Books, Movies, Tv Shows, and Music is a Christain then YES it’s of the Light, Weither it Takes about Jesus or Not. Cause a True Christain Will put there believes and Faith about God in there Stuff. If YOU Ever Read or Watched Any of the Twilight or Harry Potter Books and Movies then YOU would See and Read that BOTH Girls Wrote in and Put in things about God into there Books and Movies! So NO, YOU were WRONG BIG TIME, SORRY but YES, Twilight and Harry Potter are of the Light. Again, I Say YOU can Quote Scriptures ALL Day Long but it does NO Good, if YOU get them WRONG! I Know that Your WRONG about Movies and Books Like Twilight, HP, COBTMI, and Others because YOU Don’t Really Know God, YOU Don’t Know that God is Love, and YOU Don’t Know the Bible! As a Fellow Christain I will Show YOU, HOW YOU are So WRONG! I Love Animals! I Love ALL Animals! I have 4 Pets! I have a Pet Dog Named Simba and I have Three Cats Named Angel, Wild-Fire, and Reese Cup! There Are Some Christains that Believe and Think that it’s a Sin to have a Dog as a Pet because Dogs are a Sin to God and there Evil! Sadly, I have Meet with and I Talked to Christains Like that! and Guess What those Christains that think Dogs are a Sin to God and are Evil they have Scriptures too and they get them from the Bible! One Guy I Talked gave me Some Scriptures on Dogs and He Told ME that I was Sinning Against God for having a Dog as a Pet! I wrote Down the Scriptues that He gave me and those are Really Scripures, I Looked Them Up and I could tell You those Scriptures too. Know Just because that guy had Scriptures, Does it MEAN He is Right about Dogs being A Sin and Evil! NO, It Still Makes Him WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are Christains that Say it’s a Sin and Evil to Play Sports, Play Card Games, Play Video Games, and Play Board Games! I have Talked with some Christains like this too. These Christains have Scriptures to Show that Playing Any Games is a Sin and Evil. These Christains will Tell People that Playing Games and Playing Sports are A Sin and Evil because there about Beating Peopel, about Winners and Losers, about Violence, about Lies and Tricking, about Power, and Much More! These Christains Will Tell People that and They have Scriptures to back them Up. Are these Christains Right about Playing Sports and Playing Games is a Sin and Evil, Just because they have some Scriptures! NO, It still Makes them WRONG! There are Some Christains that Say it’s a Sin and Evil for Churches and Christains to Have and to Play Guitars, Drums, Keyboreds, and More! There Christains Believe there are Only 3 or 4 Instartments that can be Played because those Instartments are Talked about in the Bible, Like The Horn and the Harp. These same Christains have Scriptures in the Bible. Are Those Christains Right about Other Instartments being a Sin and Evil for People to Play. NO, it Make them WRONG too! There Are Christains that Believe it’s a sin and Evil to Watch TV and Listen to Music! These Same Christains have Scriptures to Show HOW it is a Sin and Evil to Watch TV and Listen to Music! Are they Right about Watching TV and Listening to Music is a Sin and Evil. NO, it makes them WRONG! I Love Snakes! Thers are Some Christains that Say ALL Snake are Evil and it’s a Sin to Like or to have a Snake as a Pet! These Same Christains have Scriptures to Show how Snakes are Evil and a Sin to have as a Pet! Are These Christains Right Just because they have Scriputes, NO, they are WRONG! There are Some Christains that will Tell People and Say it’s a Sin and Evil to Wear Pants or Shorts, to Wear Make-Up, and to Wear Jewlier, Unless it’s a Wedding Ring! Those Same Christains have Scriptures to Show How Wearing Pants and Stuff Like that is a Sin. Are they Right! NO, they are WRONG! All those Christains I just Talked about are TRUE, YOU can google and Youtube them ALL! and SADLY, I can Keep going on and on about Chritains WHO are WRONG but Yet They think there RIGHT because they have Some Scriptures! So YES YOU have Some Scriptures and Your trying to show that they say Movies like HP, Twilight, and others Ones are a Sin and Evil. Just because YOU have Scriptures are YOU Right? NO, YOU are WRONG! Satan has a Whole Lot of Christains Fooled and Trcked because Satan Knows the Bible too. Satan was around when the Bible was being Written. Satan Knows ALL About Scriputes and Satan can Trck Christains when they are Read Scriptures. When Any Christains Read the Bible they need to Talk to God while they are Reading The Bible and They Need to Remember and Know that God is LOVE! I am a Christain, WHO Loves God with ALL My Heart, My Soul, and My Mind and I Shine for God Everyday and I Show Gods Love in Everything I DO and Everywhere I GO! I Love Halloween and I go out and Hang Out with My Family and My Friends on Halloween. I have many differnt Styles. I Dress Gothic or Goth, I Dress Emo, I Dress Skater Girl, I Dress Punk, I Dress Tomboy, I Dress Sporty, and I Dress in My Crazy and FUN Wild Own Style too. I Listen to ALL Different Kinds of Music. I Watch and Read Harry Potter! I Watch and Read Twilight. I Watch and Read City of Bones The M I ! I watch The Hunger Games! I Watch Vampires Diaries. I Watch The Walking Dead! I Watch Teen Wolf on MTV! I Watch MTV! I Watch Alice In Wonderland! I Watch Once Upon a Time on ABC. I Watch Star Wars! I Watch A Whole Lot of Disney Movies. I Like and I — USE to Watch Criss Angel’s Tv Show Called Mind Freak. I Listen to Avril Lavigne’s Music and I am a BIG, BIG Avril Lavigne FAN! Avril ROCKS! I Listen to Trace Cyrus’s Music and I am a Trace Cyrus FAN! I do ALL that and Much More and YET I Know More about God and God’s Love then Most Do. I wear Twilight T-Shrits! I Wear Harry Potter T-Shirts! I Wear Teen Wolf on MTV T-Shirts! I Wear The Walking Dead T-Shirts! I Wear Vampire T-Shirts! I Wear Zombie T-Shirts! I Wear Dragon T-Shirts! I Wear Monster T-Shirts! I Wear Werewolve T-Shirts! I Wear Wolf T-Shrits! I Wear Tiger T-Shirts! I Wear Halloween Haunted Houses T-Shirts! I Love Walking Through Haunted Houses and People Jump out and try to scare ME but it Never Ever Works! I bet YOU Might even Believe that Watching Star Wars is a Sin and Evil????????? Do YOU think that way??????? Like I said Before Universal Studios Theme Park Has Harry Potter Rides and Stuff and Universal Also has The Walking Dead Stuff and Universal Studios has Halloween Horror Nights on the Weekends. I Work Most of the Halloween Horror Nights and When I don’t Work I go to the HHN! On the HHN Universal gets Turned into ONE BIG Haunted House! I bet YOU SADLY think Haunted Houses are a Sin and Evil too? I HAVE ONE BIG ? For YOU! Do YOU Think Jesus would watch or read Harry Potter or Twilight ( YES or NO )??????????? There is ONLY ONE Right Answer and If YOU Know Jesus then YOU Know the Right Answer! I Know the Answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Enjoy everything you WANT Noelle S, for you’ll be the ONE to stand beforethe LORD ON the JUDGEMENT Day and repeat all you said to HIM….. You brood of vipers! How can you speak good, when you are evil? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. (Matthew 12.34)….

Man!!! This show is so far over the cliff. I was already uncomfortable with the funny tats on their bodies in the beginning. As the show progressed it just grew too dark for my liking. When the Warlock at the disco professed his gayness, i just fast forwarded the whole movie till the end & was happy i did. What a waste of time! Full-grown adults can discern this. Wonder what goes on in the minds of teenagers when they watch this. Weapons cache hidden in the ground under churches???!!!!

This movie is nothing short of blaspheme!! I suspect the author Cassandra XXXX was under the influence of certain ‘spirits’ when she penned her novel. All 6 of em……….

Have you actually read the book series? Because its amazing! and i’m sorry but you mentioned Magnus Bane being gay and not wearing trousers to his party and teenagers shouldn’t read or watch things like that? Actually we teenagers SHOULD read about gay people and different people because then WE don’t grow up to be horrible and critical and judgmental of people! We teenagers who read about people with tattoos and people who are gay, we truly do what Jesus and God would want, we end up being nice to everyone and tolerant and accepting. To me, God wants everyone to love everyone else! You are a very bad christian if you think you have to be a perfect person to love God or for God to love you. Well FYI God isn’t up his own arse like you!! God made everyone, so are you saying Gods wrong when he made gays? Why would there be so many gays if God didn’t want them to be here? Cassandra Claire is an amazing writer and an amazing person. In fact some of my friends who weren’t christian before but are now, are christian because of the Mortal Instruments!
Also, its fiction, so get the f**k over yourself. Low life!

This Post or Message is For RC and VENICE and Anyone Else WHO Thinks and Believes Like They BOTH DO! IFY, If I CAP LOCK WORDS in the Post it Doesn’t mean that I am Yelling or Shouting! Oh, and Q, YOU can Read this Post to if YOU WANT!

HI, RC, Venice, and Anyone Else! If YOU Are Going to Stand Up for GOD then Stand Up for Him RIGHT! If YOU going to PREACH About Something or PREACH on Something then PREACH it RIGHT! If YOU are going to PREACH About Something being Evil, Bad, a Sin, or of the Devil then PREACH it RIGHT! If YOU Are going to SAY Something is Evil, Bad, a Sin, or of the Devil then SAY it RIGHT! For are RC, Venice, and Anyone Else WHO THINKS and BELIEVES that Movies, Books, and TV Shows Like City Of Bones The Mortal Instruments, Twilight, Harry Potter, Vampire Dairies, The Walking Dead, Resident Evil, and Others Like those, are a SIN, EVIL, BAD, and of the Devil then I’ll Let ya’ll Keep being WRONG but Ya’ll have to be TRUE Christain about What ya’ll believe! Ya’ll can’t just Single Out Movies, Tv Shows, and BooksLike HP, Twilingt, and Others Like. Those! God See’s and Looks at ALL is = ! Just because One Person is a Witch and does Witch Craft and Another Peron is a Lair WHO Tells Lies, God does NOT Look at them Differently! SIN is SIN in God’s eye’s!
If Ya’ll Say it’s a Sin and Evil to Watch and Read Movies and Boos Like HP, COBTMI, Twilight, and Others Like them then There a Whole Lot More Other Movies, Books, and Tv Shows that are Evil and a Sin becuase Any of Movies that have Any Kind of Sin in it is a Sin to Watch I God’s Eye’s!
If HP and Twilight is Evil and A Sin then So is The Wizard Of Oz and the New Movie, The Great and Powerful Oz. HP and The Wizard Of Oz and The Great and Powerful Oz, ALL Have Good Witches in them and Bad Witches in them! TWOOz and TGAPOz have Magic in them just Like Harry Potter! So if Watching and Read HP is a Sin and Evil then So is Watching and Read The Wizard Of Oz and The Great and Powerful Oz! Also Watching The Smurf Cartoons and the 2 Smurf Movies is a Sin and Evil! The Smurf Cartoons and Smurf Movies have Witch Craft in it! The Papa Smurf — USE Good Magic in BOTH the Smurf Cartoons and the Smurf Movies. The Bad Guy in Smurf Cartoons and Movies is spose to be a Wizard or be Like a Wizard and He — USE Bad Magic! So Watching the Smurf Cartoons and the 2 Smurf Movies are a Sin and Evil! Also a Whole LOT of Walt Disney Cartoon Movies and Cartoon TV Shows and Walt Disney People movies have Magic in Them, Just Like Harry Potter has Magic in it! So it’s a Sin and Evil to Watch Any Kind of Disney Movies with Magic in them! The Cartoon Sherk Movies have Magic in Them, So Watching Sherk! Oh, and Let’s NOT Forget about MOST Super Hero Movies! It’s a Sin and Evil to Watch Most Super Hero Movies! First of ALL Most Super Heros have Supernaturel Powers, Ok So that is Sin # number 1! Then Also Some Little Boys, Some Teeenage Guys, and Even Some Adult Men Look Up to and Idolize Super Heros and they want to Dress Like them and be Like Them, So that’s Sin # 2! So MOST Super Hero Movies, Books, and TV Shows have 2 Sin in them! Watching MOST Super Hero Movies is a Sin and Evil! God Says in the Bible that Idolizing People and Things is a Sin! Most Super Heros Teach Kids and Adults that Idolizing is OKAY. MOST Princess Movies, Make Little Girls and Women Idolize the Princesses and the Princes! So Watching Princess! Watching MOST Christmas Movies and TV Shows are a Sin and Evil because a Whloe Lot of Christmas Movies and TV Shows have Magic or Christmas So called Magic in Them! Watching Movies or Reading Books about Pirates in a Sin and Evil! Pirate Movies and Books have Darkness in Them and have a Whole Lot of Sin in Them! Pirates, Lie, Steal, Hurt, Muder, and Much More! So Watching Pirate Movies or Reading Pirate Books is a Sin and Evil! Watching Care Bears is a Sin and Evil! The Care Bear Cartoon TV Show have Magic in Them! HP has Magic in it and So does the Care Bears, so if YOUR a TRUE Christain then if YOU Say HP is a Sin and Evil YOU have to Say The Care Bears are a Sin and Evill too. Watching the Power Rangers is a Sin and Evil! Watching Pokemon is a Sin and Evil! Watching Red Riding Hood is a Sin and Evil! There is a Werewolf in Red Riding Hood! Watching Teen Wolf on MTV is a Sin and Evil! Watching MTV is a Sin and Evil! If Harry Potter is Such a Sin and Evil then Oh, boy Watching Star Wars is a Sin and Evil! So Watching Star Wars is a Sin and Evil too! Watching the Three Stooges is a Sin! The Three Stooges Hit and Hurt Each Other, Hitting is Wrong! Yes, there Hitting as a Joke, So it’s FAKE but RC and Venice ya’ll both Already that just because Something is Fact doesn’t mean it can’t cause harm! Samething goes for the Three Stooges! If Kids or Teens or Adults watch The Three Stooges, they Might start think Hitting and Hurting People is Alright! Even Some Christains Movies, Books, and Tv Shows are a Sin and Evil to Watch and Read because if There False or Fake Christains and Your Watching and Supporting them then it’s a Sin! A Old Tv Show Called Alf is a Sin to Watch! Alf was an Alien! Watching and Reading Alien Movies and Books is a Sin and Evil! Watching or Reading ANY Kind of Monster Movies or Books is a Sin and Evil! Watching Halloween Movies and Tv Show is a Sin and Evil! Watching Fairy Movies is a Sin and Evil! Fairies have and Do Magic! I can Keep on going with this! Any Kind of Movie that has a SIN in it or if the Movie Supports a Sin then it’s a Sin and Evil to Watch it! So the TRUTH there is A Whole Lot of Movies and Tv Show that area Sin and Evil to Watch! Listening to MOST Music is a Sin and Evil! Playing MOST Video Games is a Sin and Evil! RC and Venice if HP, COBTMI, Twilight, and Others are Such a Sin and Evil and of the Devil and So Dark and are Occult stuff then So is Halloween! Halloween is a Sin and Evil! Also and This MAKES ME MAD having to Say this but it’s a Sin and Evil for Someone to Dress Up as a Vampire, a Werewolf, A Witch, a Zombie, a Mummy, or Any Other Kind of Monster! Watching and Liking Criss Angel is a Sin and Evil! Criss Angel does Magic! He does FAKE Magic Tricks but Still it’s Magic! Watching or Liking Magicains is a Sin and Evil! I can Still keep going on and on if Need! Does Anyone get it NOW?????????? Everything I said was and is WRONG! ALL Those Movies and Books and Stuff have Magic in them and some have Sin in them but as Christains we can’t leave Our Leaves Saying stuff is a Sin, When God, Himself doesn’t even Say that! Harry Potter is NOT a Sin or Evil! Twilight is NOT a Sin and Evil! COBTMI is NOT A Sin and Evil! Halloween is NOT a Sin and Evil! but RC and Venice if ya’ll are going to keep Saysaying HP and Twilight and Other Movies Like those are a Sin then Ya’ll have to Say ALL the Other stuff I sadi is a Sin too!

As I have said before “the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked on” his influence has tainted everything, but some more than others. When it comes to cartoons yes some have underlying messages. Smurfs, have you ever wondered why they are blue, why Avitars in the film are blue and why the genie in aladin is blue, it’s not mere coincidence. (in Arabian and Muslim belief system) An intelligent spirit of lower rank than the angels, seen through smokeless fire hence the blue colour they are imposters they are demons.
It’s im possible to to avoid every influence, but those who show casting spells, drinking blood and admiration for highbred superbeings,, make whats bad in Gods eyes good.
What I have learnt those who don’t heed it will feel it.
I dont celebrate xmas anymore, when you do your research you can trace many of these holidays back to ancient babylon.

Thanks very much for your spirited comments. I don’t want to interject too much, but I did have two questions:

1) You make a number of statements about what God will and will not see as sin. What verses of Scripture are you basing this on?

2) Is ANY content on TV/movies okay as long as its fictional? Are movies that blaspheme God and celebrate Satan okay if they are fictional? Or movies that promote things like abusing children, so long as everyone is an actor? I am just wondering if there is any content you find objectionable. Thanks again for your posts.

Good ?’s! Hi, Peron of Beginning and Ends! I Didn’t mean to Send the Post Yet because I wasn’t Done with Post but I had to Start Work and I hit the Post comment botton by Mistake! FAKE or Fictoin Movie are FAKE but Movies about REAL things that are a Sin, YES there a Sin! I Don’t Watch Movies or TV Shows about Kids getting Hurt and Abused! Hurting and Abusing Kids and People is a SIN and EVIL! I Don’t Watch Movies or Tv Shows about people being Mudered because Muder is a SIN and EVIL! I Watch Movies or Tv Shows about People useing Drugs or Steal! I Don’t Watch Movies or Tv Shows about Babies ( Teens ) having Babies. “Teen Mom on Mtv”! I Don’t Watch Movies or Tv Shows about People Cheating and having Sex with Married People! I Don’t Watch Movies or Tv Shows that Openly and Proudly put God Down and Talk Bad about God! Movies and Tv Shows and Books about Stuff that I just Talked about, YES those Movies and Books are BAD and I DO NOT Support those Type of things! but Movies and Books about FAKE Stuff ! I Watch and I Like Them! I Love Watching a Good Monster Movie or Tv Show! I Love Watching a Good Pirate Movies or Tv Show! I Love Watching Star Wars! A SHOUT OUT to ALL Star Wars FANS on Here! STAR WARS ROCKS! I Love Watching Good but Old Godzilla Movies! I Love Watching the Old Pokemon Tv Shows! I Love Watching Harry Potter! I Love Watching Twilight ( I am Friends with one of the Guys from Twilight )! I Loved Watching City Of Bones The Mortal Instruments Twices! I Love Watching The Wizard of Oz and The Great and Powerful Oz! I Love Watching Disney Cartoon Movies, Disney Movies, and Disney Tv Shows! I Love Watching Zombie Movies and Tv Shows! I Love Watch MOST Key Word being MOST Vampire Movies and Tv Show! NOW, I DON’T Watch and I WILL NEVER Watch “True Blood”! True Blood is a Vampire Tv Show on HBO! True Blood comes on Late at Night on HBO! Yes, True Blood is about Vampire and I know I have Said Many Times on here that Vampires are FAKE Which is TRUE! I Watch Good Vampire Movies and Tv Shows about Good Things! True Blood on HBO, Crossed WAY, WAY to Many Lines! True Blood is BAD! True Blood has Some Gay Vampires on it being Openly Gay, it has Vampires having Sex in Bad Ways, It has Vampires Killing People and other Vampires in Sick and Twisted Ways, True Blood makes fun of God, and it’s Just Plan BAD! So I WILL Never Watch or Support True Blood at ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I Love Watching Werewolf Movies and Tv Shows ( I Love Wolfs! ) ! I Love Watching Teen Wolf on MTV! I Love Watching then Jaws Movies! I Love Watching the Jassic Park Movies! I Love Watching The Nightmare Before Christmas! I Love Watching Movies and Tv Shows About Dragons! and I Love and I Like Many Other Movies and Tv Shows. I Also Love Watching Animal Movies and Tv Shows because I Love Animals! This Post about How City of Bones The Mortal Intrusment is a Sin, Evil, and Bad is WRONG! Instead of Posting about things that God could Careless about! Try Posting about things He does Care about! Like a Mom in Orlando, Fl that Kills Her Little 2 Year Old Baby Girl but Yet She is Found NOT Guilty or How About 3 Young Girls, WHO are ALL Adult Women NOW ” They were Kidnapped and Raped and Beaten and Locked Up by a man for many years!” How about Teenage Girl having Babies!

Hi, I love your explanation about this movie. I have watched only half of this movie and did not finished it because I find this movie boring. My question is I am christian.. and I have watched most horror movies or tv series…does this mean I would not be saved? In my view, I am not a fan of any of these movies…but I watched…a way to let me know evil does exists.

Thanks for your comment. This is a great question. To know whether you are saved is not determined by whether you watch a movie or TV show or listen to a certain song. It is determined by your faith. Jesus Christ said:

“14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” – John 3:14-18.

Three times in 5 verses, The Lord Jesus Christ underscores one thing: BELIEF. It is the belief that Jesus Christ, The Son of God, died on the cross to take the punishment for your sins. This is the belief that saves and makes sure you are going to Heaven. It is the understanding that absent Jesus Christ, you have no hope as you are a sinner before God and rightly condemned to hell in your guilt. But God, in His love provided a way to be forgiven: and it’s all through faith. And once you are saved, you cannot lose your salvation. Jesus said: “All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.” (John 6:37).

Where movies and occult tv shows/music, etc., fit in is with your spiritual walk. For an unsaved person, these forms of entertainment are extremely dangerous because they encourage disbelief in God and seduce many into the occult, witchcraft, etc. For someone who is a born again Christian, watching these types of movies can entice your flesh to be excited by the occult. Many of these films also contain blasphemous imagery and language and certainly as believers we would not want to enjoy or celebrate that. But these things have to be taken on a case by case basis. I am no way condemning all secular movies. But this is where the Holy Spirit comes to play because if you have the Spirit of God with you, certain things won’t “sit right” with you as you watch them (as I knew just seeing the trailer for this film and once I looked deeper into it was appalled by its Biblical distortions and blasphemous take on Bible history).

The fact that you would even be concerned about not being saved is a good sign that you are indeed saved. An unsaved person would never be worried about their salvation after reading this type of article. But the Holy Spirit, which a Christian receives upon being saved, will convict your heart of sin and make you worry about pleasing God above all.

I hope that answers your question. If you need more details or have any other questions please feel free to ask. God bless you abundantly.

Hey Sharon, I Don’t Know if You have Seen or Read Any of MY Post on here but I am a Christain and I LOVE Watching Monster Movies and Tv Shows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I Love Vampires, Werewolves, Mummies, Zombies, Dragons, and Other Monsters Like those!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have Watched this Movie, City Of Bones The M I Twice. For the Most part COBTMI was a pretty Cool and Good Movie! There were some scenes that were kind of Boring and I was TOTALLY Disapponted with 2 of the Guys in the Movie being Gay! I DID NOT Support those 2 guys being Gay! but Like I said all and all COBTMI was a pretty Cool and Good Movie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I agree with Somewhat of what Beginning and End was Saying to You! Watching Movies or Tv Shows Like this One is NOT what makes someone a Christain or a None Christain! Believing in Your Heart that Jesus is the Son of God and He Died for Your Sins, that’s what makes someone a Christain. So Don’t Worry about You watching Monster Movies or TV Shows or You Watching Scary Movies or Tv Shows! I too Watch Monster Movies and TV Shows and I Watch some Scary Movies too, I am NOT a bib fan of most Scary Movies but every now and then I’ll find a Scary Movie that I Like! Right Now I Love Watching the TV Show Teen Wolf on MTV and I Love watching the TV Show Once Upon A Time! God Bless You! God is Love!

I know I may seem harsh and I apologize for this but I think you two need to stop talking with this Noelle. From the words out of their mouths, they are not Christians at all save by word of mouth. If the Holy Spirit was really in them, they would not blindly support Halloween, this movie or even argue with you two the way they are. The Holy Spirit would have convicted them or at least guide them to find their answers. However, from what I read, you two are merely replying to one of a divisive spirit who is doing a fair job of stirring things up and bringing confusion.

Titus 3:10 &11

A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.

I would love to be a little more thorough but at present, it is late. Just remember that you two said your piece already. Now you can ignore the said personabove.

And for the record, I’d be a little skeptical of anyone professing to be an adult and writing the way Noelle writes. Unless there is a valid reason for this, It is shameful for an adult to write in such a manner and be perceived as a child.

What on earth are you talking about? you don’t make any sense what so ever.
So your saying that we who are advising a young girl to stay away from the occult is wrong??
We have spoken out of love for her as any Christian would and should do.

Venice, he is on your side. He is just saying that you have done all you can. Noelle is clearly not interested in reasoning through this, taking anybody else’s opinion into account or having a mature discussion. And not to judge, but I agree with T that I have never seen a 23 year old type like that. Anyway, the typing is not nearly as important. Bottom line is, Noelle, you have to awaken and open your eyes to Satan’s presence in pop culture. Satan is a deceiver, doesn’t matter whether the movie or book is fiction or not (even though tons of stuff in this movie is real as discussed in the article). Noelle, do these movies glorify God? Are you brought closer to God by watching these shows and movies? Certainly not. Honestly ask yourself how you feel after watching these things. How much do you care about God and Jesus while immersing yourself in these exciting and stimulating fantasy worlds? They suck you into a fictional world that distracts and takes away from our ability to focus on spiritual and eternal things as we are called to. People, please pray for Noelle. If you feel exercised about it, do not sin by withholding your prayers (1 Samuel 12:23). Remember that our battle is not carnal and she evidently isn’t interested in having a civilized discussion about this.

“For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.” -Ephesians 6:12

Noelle, God loves you, but he wants all of you. He wants us to be fully and wholly committed to him. That means more time spent in prayer, reading his Word, fellowshiping with believers, and gloryfying him in everything that we do. At the very absolute minimum, I think if you are honest with yourself, you will agree that these shows and movies don’t strengthen your relationship with God. That means that they are unprofitable. However, I am very convinced that they hurt our spiritual lives. If you think about it, we are called to focus on eternal and spiritual things. Not only do these movies and TV shows take our focus off of spiritual things and place it in the world, but they go one step further and drag us into a fantasy world. Focusing on fictional things is even WORSE than focusing on worldly things as far as I am concerned. It puts an extra step between us and God. Noelle, God wants a relationship with you. That is accomplished through praying to him and reading his Word. How much is enough? Is 10 or 20 minutes a day enough? How would someone really close to you, for example, a husband or your mother, feel if you only spent 10-20 minutes with them a day? Or, sadly, like many Christians, zero minutes…would this strengthen and nurture your relationship? God is calling you AWAY from these worldly distractions. They are unprofitable and damaging to our relationship with God. God sees mainstream movies and TV shows as idols and a complete waste of time. Please, Noelle, ask yourself, do you truly believe what you say about these shows? Or are you just trying to justify your own fleshly desires by rambling on and on? God wants you to grow closer and closer to him, Noelle…please seriously think about it. I’ll pray for you tonight.

Well, well Nick it Looks Like I just Found a Secound POST by YOU! OH, My, My! Again I Say to YOU, Nick ”STOP Acting and Pretending that YOU Know ME! Nick, DO YOU Live in Some Kind of Fantsy Land or World where YOU think YOU know ME! NICK, FYI and FYI God has ALL of ME, Thank You Very Much! I am Christain! I am a 100% TRUE Christain! Are YOU a Christain??????????????? If YOU are a Christain then use the Brain God gave YOU, Please! I am a Christain, I am NOT. One of the Lost! YOU can’t Save Someone WHO Already has God! It’s SAD Really, I know More about God then it seems You DO! God Does NOT Care about FAKE and NOT REAL Things! I am So SORRY if YOU Don’t Know That or Understand That! NICK, STOP Telling People to Pray for ME because that’s Just WEIRD and Wrong! Because My Life is Good, I have God and Jesus! There Kids Dying and People being Killed and Raped and Nick, Your Asking People to Pray for ME! I am going to Pray for YOU because YOU Need God Big Time! FYI Nick, I SHOW God’s Love in Everything I DO and I DO that Every Single! I SHOW and I TELL of God’s Love in Everything I DO ”God’s Light SHINES Through ME”, I go to Church, I Read My Bible Every Single Day, I Pray Morning, Noon, and Night ”So I Pray EveryDay and EveryNight”, and I have a Relationship with God and Jesus! So NICK, What were YOU Saying about ME and Saying to ME???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nick, YOU were So WRONG in Everything YOU said! Get to Know Someone before YOU Start Talking about them! The New Harry Potter World Opens UP at Universal Studios in Summer Time 2014! Nick, I Welcome YOU to come cheeck it Out or Don’t come See it! I get Paid weither YOU come or NOT! I Work at Both Universal Studios and Disney World! For. The Grand Opening of the New Harry Potter World, I Know God’s going to be there and I am going to be there! I know God’s going to be there because God is Everywhere, Plus I have God in My Heart So God is with ME Where Ever I GO!

Uhm Noel? If you think it is weird to pray for other people, you might want to reconsider. Are you saying it is weird to pray for poor children in Africa? For that single Mom you don’t know, but you do know is struggling? For that homeless man on the street? You think it is weird for him to pray for you…the Bible does mention praying for other people. I mean you are a Christian-you should know that right? And as for above posts, does that mean you know what God cares about then? Its says in Psalms he cares about the details of our lives…that can include a wide variety of things..maybe movies? But no need to be so defensive. As long as you know these things are not real, okay, approach them with discretion. BUT, if another non-Christian sees you watching certain movies and questions that or a new believer, you need to be careful. We don’t want our brother or sister in Christ stumbling. We are to be set apart from the world. God is constantly revealing to us things in our lives he wants us to change. Noel, ask yourself this question..if God asked you to give up all your favorite afore mentioned movies for Him would you? Just something to think on..if these things are above God…they might need revision. Enjoy working your job-it sounds fun. Point is-we can’t change your mind with what we say, but we can lead you to think about it-it is a thing between you and God in your heart.

OK ALEX, YOU REALLY, REALLY TRUELY, and HONESTLY NEED to Learn HOW to Read! If YOU Would have HONESTLY AND TRUELY Read then YOU Would have Spelled MY NAME Right but YOU Didn’t! First and for Most MY NAME is SPELLED N O E L L E ”NOELLE” NOT noel! You Did NOT Spell MY NAME Right, You Spelled IT WRONG! Next thing I DO NOT Like LAIRS! Since YOU DIDN’T HONESTLY Read What I WROTE! You LIED BIG TIME about WHAT YOU Said that I said! I DO NOT Like LAIRS, So if YOUR GOING to LIE then PLEASE DON’T Talk to ME! What I Said was I DIDN’T Won’t NICK TELLING People to Pray for ME, When there are People Out in the World that REALLY HONESTLY NEED God’s HELP! There are Kids and People that have are GOING Hunger, that are Homeless, that are Sick and Dying, that Don’t know God, and that are being Killed and being Sick! I have a Pretty Good Life or an Okay Life! I have God and Jesus! I have Family and Friends! I go around and I Tell people about God! I have a Home to Stay at! I have Food and Drinks! I Work and make money! I am NOT Sick and I am NOT in Pain! So PLEASE, PLEASE DON’T Miss UNDERSTAND ME! I Don’t Mind being Prayed for but the WAY NICK was Telling People to Pray for ME TICKED ME OFF BIG TIME! If NICK is a True Christain then NICK NEEDS to TELL People to Pray for the People WHO NEEDS God’s POWER and LOVE in their Life’s! I Have God’s POWER and LOVE in MY LIFE Already! FYI, Alex if You know God then You Should KNOW God is NOT going to ASK Someone give up something that is NOT REAL! This MOVIE Everyone KEEPS Talking about is FAKE and NOT REAL! God Cares about WHAT IS REAL and Not about WHAT IS NOT REAL! If Someone is Playing with a Fake Gun God is NOT going to Tell them NOT to Play with IT because it’s a FAKE Gun! but If Someone is PLAYING with a REAL Gun then God is going to Tell them NOT to PLAY with IT because it’s a REAL Gun! REAL is REAL and FAKE is FAKE! God is a FAIR and LOVING God! God cares about what is REAL and NOT about What is FAKE! God is LOVE!

The writer of this was mal-informed.
Jace, Clary’s brother. Was not her’s.
If s/he know properly of the story he would know they THOUGHT they were brother and sister.
It turned out Jace was also fed angel blood, however he was in fact the orphaned son of another. Jace Herondale wa/i/s his real name.. Clarissa’s true brother was Jonathan Christopher Morgenstern- introduced in the third book, and he was fed demon blood. He intended incestuous ways and Clary refused. Jonathan and Valentine invoked the Greater Demon Liltih. Known in her seventeen guises. And drank her blood in a mimic cup- the Infernal Cup. And became Dark Nephilim. True in intent to destroy humanity and allow demonkind overrule.

This person may see this as blasphemy. But. it is not for them to decide. The Motto of the Nephilim- Descensus Facilis Averno- The Descent Into Hell Is Easy. Is not full. The full abtext is The Descent Into Hell Is Easy, And The Road To Heaven Is Lined With Burning Knives(Quotes from the Archangel Gabriel himself).

And. Judge lest not ye be judged. If the Nephilim and Shadowhunters are so bad, so what? You are missinforming mundanes as much as you accuse Cassandra Clare of.

Well, Venice, you are right to talk to a christian however you should use your judgement as well. Noelle claims to be 23 but most 23 year olds, unless they lack good sense or have a valid reason, do not write in the manner that they do. Also, for someone who claims to be a Christian, She certainly does not know a lot, even if they were one for 10 yrs. in ten years, there should have been some spiritual growth or maturity but it is evident there was non. That tells me that Noelle is not a Christian or is just a troll spouting nonsense in hopes of getting Christians to react.

It was late/ early when I saw this so I’m guilty of not paying due attention but RC only spoke to her twice, as we are told to do if we are admonishing another Christian. After that, they left well enough alone. I didn’t meant to offend or anything but only to remind tell remind you that you have said your piece and Noelle is obviously not listening. You are free to continue to respond but if you want to remain true to God’s Word, you may want to leave them alone and ignore them.

A true Christian is called to deny themselves and to obey the Lord. In denying ourselves, we should not do as we will but what Godvwills. Do you honestly think our Father in Heaven wants you to waste your breath on some who will not hear?

For the record, I’m using a browser and I do not see anything new on the past the 14th. I only got your response via email. And again, I did not mean to offend you or anything.

Yes I agree with much of what you say, I found the truth at 20 I am now 53, but within a year I was burning with the sprit not literally but I definitely knew what was evil influence and what was not.
I believe she is like many christians today, who feel as long as you show love, everything else is fine. She was probably brought up in a household who also displayed the same views. Sometimes learnt behaviour is difficult to break. Calling her a troll, is a bit below the belt, here in the UK that word is viewed as an insult or derogative. I just hope that one day the penny will drop and she will see that what was spoken was out of love and concern for her spiritual welfare.

Thank You to Venice and Q! Thank Ya’ll for standing up for ME! So THANK YOU Both Venice and Q! I still Don’t Agree with Everything that YOU Do Venice but Thank You So Much for Standing Up for ME!!!!!!!!!! It takes a Good TRUE Christain to Stand Up for another Christain even when Those Two Christains Don’t See Eye to Eye on the Samethings! Thanks Venice! As for YOU T, You Can Shut Your Mouth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your NOT a Christain at all and I Can tell that! T, The WAY You TALK and SAY Things, You work for Satan! T, FYI Satan Knows the Bible and Satan Knows God too! You a FAKE and a FALSE christain! Your on Satan’s Team! So T, Please Don’t Talk about ME or Talk to ME! I Want Nothing to do with People WHO Like Satan or Live and Work for Satan! I Have Been Very Super Busy Working at The Halloween Horror Nights at Universal studios in Orlando, Fl ! Sadly the Halloween Horror Nights at Universal is all Over with 🙁 :'( 🙁 :'( ! So Late Happy Halloween to Everyone on Here! I HOPE Everyone had a FUN and a SAFE Halloween Day and Night! God Bless Everyone! God is LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Noelle! Glad to hear that you had so much fun! It’s a fun time of the year, for sure.

Don’t be so hard on those who criticize or attack you. Just keep in mind this is the Internet, and people tend to react sharply without really understanding the person they’re responding to. I believe most here are well-intentioned. They just don’t understand you or your writing style. Just thank them for their words and wish them love and kindness. The Holy Spirit will take care of the rest.

Hey, Q Thank You and I Total agree with YOU! That’s Why I said Thank You to BOTH YOU and Venice for Standing Up for ME, when it came to What T was Saying! I mean’t What I said about T and what I said to T! Someone does to have that much Meaness and Hate inside them and be a True christain! Even Venice and RC were saying Nicer and Kinder things then T was Saying! If Someones going to Act Like they Work for Satan ( T ) then I am going to Say that there Working for Satan! I Say what I See and Well that’s what I SAW! Oh, and T is one to TALK about MY WRITING becuase the way T Writes Makes NO SCENES at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even Venice Said what T was Saying was Making NO SCENES! People tend to Want to put People Down for things that They can’t Do! I Can Write and T Can’t Clear Can’t Write! So it’s Easier for T to Say that I Can’t Write and Talk Bad about My Writing then for T to Admit that T can’t Write! So I am ALL SMILES 🙂 because I Know I CAN WRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now I Do have Trouble with spelling Words sometimes but then again I went Loganville Schools back when I Lived in Ga . So YES, I do have Trouble with Spelling Words Sometimes but Most Normal People can Read the Words that I Spell Wrong and they can Tell what I mean’t by IT! I have Never Once Claimed to be Super Smart and a Great Word Speller! Q, the Reason WHY I defined Movies, Tv Shows, and Books like City of Bones the M I, Harry Potter, Twilingt, and Other Ones Like Those, is because I AM a Writer Too! I Sing, I Play Guitar, and I WRITE My OWN Song! Plus, I also WRITE My Own Stories and Poems too but I WRITE More Song and Stories then I do Poems! I Write My Own Songs and I Write My Own Stories! I Alos LOVE Monsters! So When it comes to People putting down Monster Books and Movies, Like this One then I have to Defined it! If I ”Myself” Wants to Write about Vampires, Werewolves, Zombies, Mummies, Dragons, Giant Spiders, or other Monsters then NO ONE is Going to TELL that I CAN’T and I SHOULDN’T Write about Those Things and it’s Evil or a Sin if I Write about Those Things! There NOT GOD and I Know GOD, So I will NOT just stand by and let Someone Play God, when they are NOT God!!!!!!!!!!!! FYI to EVERYONE, I have WROTE Stories about Vampires, Werewolves, Zombies, and Dragons! God has NEVER EVER Once Said that Writing Made Up and Fake Stories or Songs about Monsters is a Sin! God Never Said that it’s a Sin to Write Fake Stories about Monsters and TRY as People Might TRY, they Will Never Find IT in the Bible! Fake and Made Up Monster Movies, Tv Shows, and Books are NOT a sin or evil!

That is So VERY, VERY, Very COOL and AWESOME then Q! I have only been living here in Orlando, Fl for about ALMOST 3 Years! At the End of Dec. it will be 3 Years that I have been Living here in Orlando, Fl! So 3 Years ago I was Living in Loganville, Ga! Loganville, Ga is My Home Town! Q, YOU Might even know some of My Family and My Friends from Loganville, Since You Work in Loganville and if You ever Lived in or near Loganville then for Sure You Might Know some of My Family and some My Friends! I have Family and Friend that Live in Loganville and in Walnut Grove, Ga and the Church I Glrew Up in and Went to ALL the Time is Corinth Christain Church. CCC is right Near Blue Springs The Soccer Fleid and it close by Walnut Grove!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Q, Maybe You have even Seen ME before in Loganville, Ga. In Loganville if You ever Saw a Girl in ALL Black or Black and Red, Wearing a Avril Lavigne Shirt, with Her Hair in Pig Tails, and She had a Gothic/Emo/Punk Rock/ Skater Girl/ Tomboy Look or Style then that was ME!!!!!!!!! Hey Q, Where do YOU Live at Now??????????????????????????????

Thank you B&E on the time and thought you put into your articles and responses. I normally wouldn’t be posting on such a site, but I felt moved to… ESP this particular article.

First, I’ll give a bit of history. I used to be what you would call a ” red hot” Christian. I also studied with various other Christian groups, some questionable in nature… But never converting.. More for insight and knowledge. Then upon entering college, did a paper that changed my views forever. So I guess now, I would classify myself as a hopeful agnostic…( there better be a being greater then I! ) I am still on my quest to find my way…. And am hopeful to return to more of a faith based spiritual state.

So I was researching Niphilim, inspired from some of the recent books I have read…. Mortal instruments happens to be one several series that I have read. First I read an informative Neph article on site., that intrigued me enough to look at more articles.
^ point 1: that if I was inspired, how many more would be? How many minds did it open to do research or pick up a bible again?

The movies referenced are nothing more then creative works of fiction. Like many works of fiction, based loosely on something real… Then the imagination goes from there. If such fiction influences faith, their faith wasn’t that strong to begin with.

( side note: movie was the worst piece of book to screen renditions I have ever seen)

I respect the concern of influence, however, I would much rather see good v.s. Evil spiritual movies and good prevail. Isn’t it a positive thing if it makes other people then search and maybe find the path… That turns to God? Even thought Niphilim are wrought from evil, that in this particular movie it’s different? Proving that no matter how you were created, you can chose to be good? Can chose to fight for God?
Doesn’t the death of Jesus basically say he dies for our sins? The premise of the movie, intentional or not, presses the point that we chose who we Want to be, thanks to free will. And if you were half human, half angel… The same would apply… Due to humans gift of free WILL. And can be forgiven of sin.

But I digress, these movies and books can inspire people to SEARCH for truths…. And if it brings you closer to understanding or suddenly your scouting more on such thoughts, lol like myself tonight .. Isn’t that a positive thing?

It’s just entertainment. Like magic shows, football, etc. If you think something is evil… Check reality tv.. Just saying there lol.

From my own studies, I do follow more of the angel view, do I believe them all evil or locked into being evil due to their conception? No. For instance, a child born of a serial killer automatically make the baby one? No.

Following the ideology of Genesis, God SPOKE our current existence. We are made in his image. How much power do our words hold? That is why we must be careful when speaking about such things, try to look for the light in the darkness. This particular film fantasy might portray the wrong depiction, however, it might inspire a curiosity to the bible and teachings ….

Thanks for your comments. You said that the movies like Mortal Instruments could lead people to search and find truth. This is true. But that would also necessitate writing articles on the Nephilim that share Biblical truth and expose the many lies of the Mortal Instruments, right? lol.

As for your search for the light, it’s a much more serious issue than whether or not the Nephilim were part-angel, can be redeemed, will come back, etc. It’s about YOU and whether or not you will spend eternity in the presence of God in Heaven or in the Lake of fire suffering eternal torment. You seemed concerned about whether or not a Nephilim can be forgiven. But what about your forgiveness?

I hope Mortal Instruments showed you that there is a very concerted effort in MANY novels today to distort the Biblical account and promote the villains and servants of Satan as heroic figures. This is no coincidence. It is a part of the true war, which is for the hearts and minds of humanity. And Jesus Christ, the true Light, gave His life so that we can be on the winning side of this war.

Are you reading the Bible? Are you looking for a church? What are you doing to look for the light? I hope and pray you will really spend time opening your heart and mind to God to learn real truth: as told in the Bible. Scripture says: “Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” (Jeremiah 33:3). James 4 says: “Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you.” If you want to know God and hear from Him, humble yourself and pray. Go to the Bible with that mindset and you will receive much light.

To all of you who think that Satan was the only bad angel think again Gadreel was the angel who led Eve astray in the garden not Lucifer, just to name one instance of another bad angel. And the true origin of the Nephilium has been debated over centuries. It would also help some people to know that Demons were adopted in to the Christian religion later as were angels. These beings actually came from Hinduism and other middle eastern/Asian cultures, more primitive religions than Christianity and Judaism. Just thought I might remind people that Christianity was founded wayyyy later than some religions…
Btw just like most Americans think America is the greatest civilization known to man Christianity is young, not the youngest, and both are cramming their supposed “greatness” down any other religion/countries preverbal thought’s.

Hi noelle s, I am glad you think you are a christian. But the catch is there is a difference between a christian and a child of God. I too watched the movie but if your spirit do not clash against this movie or the HP movies then you are in for a big surprise. Sorry to burst your bubble.

FYI BEN STEWARD, I DON’T THINK I AM A CHRISTIAN! I KNOW, I KNOW I AM A CHRISTIAN! OH, SORRY NOT MY BAD For BURSTING YOUR BUBBLE! I HOPE YOU DON’T CRY cause I BURSTED YOUR BUBBLE! I AM GLAD that I BURSTED YOUR BUBBLE 🙂 😛 ! Lol. Haha. Lol. I ROCK! Lol! YOU ON the Other HAND Don’t SEEM to Act LIKE a CHRISTIAN at ALL! Are YOU Even a CHRISTIAN? ??? ??? If YOU are A CHRISTIAN then PLEASE Start Acting LIKE A CHRISTIAN! cause Right NOW YOU Seem MORE Like a BABY CHRISTIAN! ALSO FYI, Since I WORK at UNIVERSAL STUDIOS in Orlando, Fl 3 and a Half Months Ago I got to Meet and Talk to a Few of the Guy and Girl Actors from the Harry Potter Movies! Most of them that I Talked to Are Christian and They Love God! I talked and meet 7 HP actors and out of the7 of them 5 were Christians! So if YOU are A TRUE 100% CHRISTIAN PLEASE DO NOT JUDGE Someone or Some People if YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW Them! I ALSO have a Guy Friend WHO was in the Twilight Movies and HIM and HIS Family are BIG TIME CHRISTIANS! When I got to Meet My Guy Friend WHO was in the Twilight Movies, ME, HIM, and HIS Family TALKED WAY, WAY MORE about HOW GREAT and AMAZING God and Jesus ARE then WE Talked about the Twilight Books and Movies! SO YOU NEED to STOP JUDGING PEOPLE! LAST TIME I CHEECKED YOUR NOT God, SO DON’T Play as God cause FYI and I HATE to BURST YOUR BUBBLE but YOUR NOT GOD! YOUR NOT GOD and YOU WILL NEVER EVER be GOD! I So Love Christian WHO Think there God and they Try to Act Like there God! I STAND UP for MOVIES Like THIS ONE and OTHERS LIKE IT because These Kind of MOVIES are MY STYLE and PLUS I AM A SINGER/SONGWRITER and I AM A STORY WRITER! My Style is Emo Girl, Skater Girl or Sk8er Girl, Goth Girl or Gothic Girl, Punk Rock Girl, Tomboy, and then I also have a STYLE ALL MY OWN! I LOVE FAKE Monsters and I LOVE FAKE SCARY Stuff! Lol. I ALSO Sing and I Write My OWN Songs and I Write My OWN Stories! So if I WANT to WRITE about FAKE Monsters or FAKE Places then I have the RIGHT to do so! God GIVES EVERYONE, EVERYONE FREE WILL, God GIVES CHRISTIANS FREE WILL too! So SINCE YOU and NO ONE ELSE is God then Ya’ll have NO RIGHT to JUDGE Someone by there STYLE, STYLE of Dressing, STYLE of Writing, STYLE of Movies and TV Shows, and STYLES of Music! I AM Going to Sing What I Want to Sing about, I AM Going to Write About what I Want to Write About, I AM going to Dress HOW I Want to DRESS, I AM Going to TALK HOW I Want to TALK, I AM Going to Dream about what I want to Dream about, I AM Going to Dance HOW I Want to Dance, I AM Going to Read about What I Want to Read, I AM Going to Listen to What Music I Want to Listen to, and I AM Going to Watch the Movies and TV Shows that I Want to Watch! I AM Going to Be MYSELF ALWAYS, God MADE ME WHO I AM and I AM Going to be WHO I AM! I am going to DO ALL THAT Stuff with God and God’s LOVE in MY HEART! God Gives ME FREE WILL to be ME SO I AM GOING to BE ME! God is LOVE! God Bless YOU!

For me, I watched part of the Harry Potter series, read the books, and I watched City of Bones and read the series. If I were to be completely honest, I did notice the gaps and flaws in such books relating to Christianity but I closed one eye. However, on reading this, I know that I should stop reading the books immediately but understandably, it’s very hard for me to do so as they are two of my favourite books/series.

Anya Mystrova:
That is where you are wrong. Jews don’t believe Jesus was the Messiah, theson of God. They’re still awaiting the arival of the Messiah.

As for Mary: I can tell you know nothing about Mary. Chatholics DON’T WORSHIP HER! We pray to her like a mother.
Imagine you’re a child. You did something you weren’t supposed to. You go to your mom first, knowing that she’ll do what mothers do. They’ll keep father from over reacting.
Mary is lke thee mother. We pray to her asking her to pray that God will be merciful.

Now a questiion of my own. Why is is that prodestants say “Pray for them” but they diss Mary for praying for them?

Messianic Jews are the ones that accepted Christ as Messiah. There are jews that haven’t accepted Messiah, for sure. I speak of the ones that did, such as the 12 disciples, and all those that believed afterwards.
Can you show me where in scripture we are called to pray to Mary? Because as far as I can tell, Jesus Christ is the only intercessor between us and God. She was the earthly mother of Jesus, yes, but there is no basis for this worship, which it is. Jesus never mentioned “pray to my mother on your behalf.” Jesus alone is the one to worship, praise, and send our prayers to. He alone is the high priest, he alone.

Now for your question, I’m not quite sure I follow what you’re getting at. Protestants ask people to pray for them?

You can make anything these days into the “work of a satanic cult” In your reference to the Nephilim in the Bible, the quote you use never says they are evil, only giant. If that’s the case, then everyone over 7 ft tall must be a minion of Satan? I am a Christian and believe whole heartedly in Jesus as my savior but not every work of fiction has to be satanic. If you look hard enough you can probably find satanic references in Sesame Street or Dora the Explorer. Get off your high horse and enjoy life while you can.

Hey, Jeremy I am Noelle and I am a Christian! YOU sound Like ME! Lol 🙂 ! I LIKED Everything YOU Said! YOU are SO RIGHT! Jeremy, YOUR an AWESOME Christian Just like ME! AMEN to Everything YOU Said! AGREED, NOT EVERY SINGLE Thing in the WORLD is Evil and Bad! WE as People can MAKE Anything LOOK Evil and Bad, if people look to Hard! Jeremy, I AM SO HAPPY and GLAD to SEE that YOUR A Smart and Loving Christian, Just Like I AM!

I GOT to Watch 2 Awesome and Great Movies! I Saw the MOST GREATEST, AMAZING, the BEST Movie of ALL TIME! I Saw the NEW Godzilla Movie! Godzilla Totally ROCKED! Godzilla was an AWESOME Movie to Watch! I ALSO Saw the New Disney Movie Maleficent! Maleficent was a REALLY, REALLY GOOD Movie! I Liked the Way Maleficent LOOKED in the Movie! Maleficent was an AWESOME LOOKING Fairy! Godzilla and Maleficent are 2 GREAT Movies!

Vampire myth started with vlad tbe implarer who was a real person. He got the name implarer because of his method of killing his enemies by implaing them on a stake. It is also documented that her drank their blood. As time moved on people began adding the the vampire lore. There is a disease that cause the gums to recede which cause the canines of a human to look like fangs also the idea of vampires being undead comes from when people used to open the graves of the deceased and stake them through the heart and a sound of air escape them. This wasnt proif the person was raisong but their last breath.

Werewolf lore comes from many mythical sources but its more human source of origin comes from a man who thought by wearing the fur of a wolf embody him with the abilities of a wolf and so he would go into town and kill innocent people and even commit the crime of rape.

Zombies lore can be traced directly to hati religion of voodoo (hoodoo is the magic). There is an herb used by voodoo practitioners that used a drug that created a zombie like affect on the human body.

Thank you for this wonderful information. I have not seen the movie since I was not even aware of such production. I willingly discarded a big percentage of recreational television as well as music. As I find myself reintroducing myself to what society now calls “normal” TV and music it doesn’t seem as bad as when you fully remove them from your life. Please note I used “as” because it’s still bad.I indulge in these type of websites because it shakes and shifts anything ungodly of my heart’s desires. It is hard to stand up to The Truth when so called Christians are making harder with their waterdown-gospel. I pray for Holy Spirit’s conviction whenever I am accepting anything ungodly but even then it’s hard of you watch and listen to what the world can offer. I feel sadness in my heart for all those “Christians” accepting sinful behavior and compromising their beliefs. My blood boils whenever “Christians” don’t take the sacrifice of our Lord Jesus Christ respectfully and completely Holy. This is serious, a matter of life or eternal damnation. He lives! He is coming! Stand up for our Lord! He gave His life so that you would live for Him. By grace not works. If the Holy Spirit is truly in you there should be conviction when watching or listening to the occult. Otherwise there needs to be a lot of soul searching. I will keep praying for you brothers and sisters and to everybody at B&E that the Spirit of God may give you discernment and godly inspiration in everything you do.

WOW, WOW, and WOW! I HAVE a Few Words for YOU! Unless You KNOW ME, DON’T TALK about ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Know MORE about God and Jesus then Most Christians do!
PLEASE get Over Yourself, Stop Talking about People YOU Don’t Even Know and Move on with Your Life!
Go WATCH Two (2) Movies! One Movie is Called: The Perfect Stranger and the Other Movie is Called: Another Perfect Stranger!
Go Watch those 2 Movies and then PLEASE, PLEASE Learn Something about God and Jesus from BOTH Those Movies!

I am tied of christian bull— saying that the occult is evil witches are evil. Give it a break, you practice whatever religion you want and so will i, but at least make an afford to not judge us on what we belief. We try to be nice but guess what, our beliefs came first and your come from the twisted teachings of Jesus, who had some pretty good ideas to bad century of politics and corruption have turned be nice to your enemy to burn anyone who doesn’t share our beliefs.

by the way a movie,show, or book about demon hunters/killers is going to have satanic references so your pandemonium argument is stupid and not well thought out.

even if you wish me and “my kind” burn in hell i dont want to same for you
namaste

Thank you for your comments. I would like to first off say that it is not our intention to offend others by stating what the Bible very clearly teaches. You told me not “to judge us on what we believe” but you seem to have judged Christianity quite harshly in your comments by calling it a twisted corruption. My point is not to say don’t judge me, but to point out how hard, if not impossible it is to not judge things. We all do. And certainly God is above us all, judging everything.

The Biblical Christian perspective is simple: I do NOT want you to go Hell. And if there is a belief that I think can avoid that fate, I am going to share it. The Gospel message is tough to accept because it confronts us at the very core of our hearts. It tells us that the life we are living, the pursuits and passions we have, in many instances are sinful rebellion against God. It tells us that we are evil and do very little good. It tells us that we deserve just punishment for the wrong things we choose to do and that we are led by a spirit of wickedness. It also says that there is nothing we can do to redeem ourselves. And it says this about everybody – meaning it is talking about myself just as much as it is talking about you. This is very hard to hear and Christianity is the only religion in the world that preaches this. Every other religious belief in the world teaches self-redemption or places power in your hands. Christianity says we’re hopeless and doomed. But for God’s grace – meaning his undeserved love and favor, we can be saved and live eternally. And that is through faith in Jesus Christ.

No one can dispute the BIble when it says that “all have sinned”. Everyone knows they are guilty, thousands of times over. And Jesus Christ came to give us all FREE forgiveness of that sin. Jesus said: “..Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. 24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.”(John 8:23-24). These were not the words of a “Good teacher” or a “Wise philosopher.” These are the words of someone claiming to be God and the way to salvation. Jesus left no wiggle room to appreciate His teachings without faith. I do not want you to die in your sins. But Satan does and will do anything to make you not be concerned about them, or God’s judgment. And this film is a perfect example. They have taken parts of the Bible and completely twisted it (something you lambasted Christians for doing). It has taken the description of the shed blood of Jesus Christ – the essential element of Christianity – and instead twisted the story to make it the blood of a fallen, sinful angel, that can save humanity. And it has made the nephilim – evil beings in the Bible who wanted to destroy humanity, heroes. And yet, you are upset and offended that a Christian website has taken issue with it. See how subtle the movie’s ideas operate?

Trying to be good so bad things don’t happen to you 3-fold does not provide forgiveness for what you have done. Do not think you can “make up” for the bad things you do and balance the scale. My only concern is for your eternal destiny. And I humbly ask that you consider what the Bible really says and read it with an open heart and mind. The last thing I want for you or anyone who practice witchcraft is to “burn in Hell.” On the contrary I hope that one day you and I will talk about this conversation in Heaven.

“Whosoever shall call upon the name of The Lord shall be saved.” – Romans 10:13.

I agree with you a 100% that trying to blatantly twist biblical facts into something they are not. So is promoting Occult, Witchcraft etc., Practicing it is definitely out of the question. But, I find it hard to believe that the authors of several of the books with deal with these subjects intentionally mean to promote these ways of life. I also do not think that these authors are satanic agents. They are just authors with an great imaginations and people who enjoy these books as they are meant to be enjoyed (for their imaginative genius) are not necessarily sinning. God judges the heart right? So he know why people read books…he knows why people watch movies…it is to be entertained not to become mindless drones who emulate what is happening in the book or movie. Secondly, for some people watching these movies or reading these books might hinder their faith and for others it might not. Let us not judge one another or condemn one another for what we believe. After all our God is a personal savior and our salvation is personal as well. That is how God intended it to be. I have posted Romans 14 below. If we read it by replacing food with reading books or watching movies…it becomes pretty clear how we are supposed to lead our lives. Let me know what you guys think :).

1 Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters. 2 One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3 The one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted them. 4 Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.

5 One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. 6 Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone. 8 If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. 9 For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

10 You, then, why do you judge your brother or sister[a]? Or why do you treat them with contempt? For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat. 11 It is written:

“‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord,
‘every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will acknowledge God.’”[b]
12 So then, each of us will give an account of ourselves to God.

13 Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister. 14 I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean. 15 If your brother or sister is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy someone for whom Christ died. 16 Therefore do not let what you know is good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and receives human approval.

19 Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20 Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a person to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21 It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother or sister to fall.

22 So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23 But whoever has doubts is condemned if they eat, because their eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.

I posted the same message in offended and disappointeds thread but i realize it does not belong there lol! This is for everyone else on the page seems like 🙂

Hi,

I agree with you a 100% that trying to blatantly twist biblical facts into something they are not. So is promoting Occult, Witchcraft etc., Practicing it is definitely out of the question. But, I find it hard to believe that the authors of several of the books with deal with these subjects intentionally mean to promote these ways of life. I also do not think that these authors are satanic agents. They are just authors with an great imaginations and people who enjoy these books as they are meant to be enjoyed (for their imaginative genius) are not necessarily sinning. God judges the heart right? So he know why people read books…he knows why people watch movies…it is to be entertained not to become mindless drones who emulate what is happening in the book or movie. Secondly, for some people watching these movies or reading these books might hinder their faith and for others it might not. Let us not judge one another or condemn one another for what we believe. After all our God is a personal savior and our salvation is personal as well. That is how God intended it to be. I have posted Romans 14 below. If we read it by replacing food with reading books or watching movies…it becomes pretty clear how we are supposed to lead our lives. Let me know what you guys think :).

1 Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters. 2 One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3 The one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted them. 4 Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.

5 One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. 6 Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone. 8 If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. 9 For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

10 You, then, why do you judge your brother or sister[a]? Or why do you treat them with contempt? For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat. 11 It is written:

“‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord,
‘every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will acknowledge God.’”[b]
12 So then, each of us will give an account of ourselves to God.

13 Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister. 14 I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean. 15 If your brother or sister is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy someone for whom Christ died. 16 Therefore do not let what you know is good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and receives human approval.

19 Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20 Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a person to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21 It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother or sister to fall.

22 So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23 But whoever has doubts is condemned if they eat, because their eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.

I agree with you a 100% that trying to blatantly twist biblical facts into something they are not. So is promoting Occult, Witchcraft etc., Practicing it is definitely out of the question. But, I find it hard to believe that the authors of several of the books with deal with these subjects intentionally mean to promote these ways of life. I also do not think that these authors are satanic agents. They are just authors with an great imaginations and people who enjoy these books as they are meant to be enjoyed (for their imaginative genius) are not necessarily sinning. God judges the heart right? So he know why people read books…he knows why people watch movies…it is to be entertained not to become mindless drones who emulate what is happening in the book or movie. Secondly, for some people watching these movies or reading these books might hinder their faith and for others it might not. Let us not judge one another or condemn one another for what we believe. After all our God is a personal savior and our salvation is personal as well. That is how God intended it to be. I have posted Romans 14 below. If we read it by replacing food with reading books or watching movies…it becomes pretty clear how we are supposed to lead our lives. Let me know what you guys think :).

1 Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters. 2 One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3 The one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted them. 4 Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.

5 One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. 6 Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone. 8 If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. 9 For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

10 You, then, why do you judge your brother or sister[a]? Or why do you treat them with contempt? For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat. 11 It is written:

“‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord,
‘every knee will bow before me; every tongue will acknowledge God.’”[b]
12 So then, each of us will give an account of ourselves to God.

13 Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister. 14 I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean. 15 If your brother or sister is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy someone for whom Christ died. 16 Therefore do not let what you know is good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and receives human approval.

19 Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20 Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a person to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21 It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother or sister to fall.

22 So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23 But whoever has doubts is condemned if they eat, because their eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.

Hi there,
I have nothing against Christians, or Catholics, or anyone of any sort of religion. The way I see it, I do not own them or their lives, therefore it is not my place to decide or to tell them what they should believe or how they should live their lives. The only thing I dislike is when people use their religion to restrict other people’s lives, to harass them, or put them down. No one has the right to do that, no matter what.

Another thing. From what I can tell, most of you believe that movies and books such as Harry Potter and City of Bones and such are used to convince people into taking up witchcraft and satanism. Well, as someone who enjoys these kinds of books and knows many, many others who do as well, I have to say that you aren’t quite right there. Now, I can’t speak for the entire non-religious population out there, and I’m not going to try to, but I can safely say that the majority of us view these books and movies as simple entertainment. It doesn’t cause us to believe in anything we didn’t already believe in before. If by simply reading a book we could be so easily lured into believing something, would we not have all become Christians or Catholics ourselves long ago? I mean that as no offense. But if we believed, truly and to the point of “practicing” it, in witchcraft and evil practices, would we not also have to believe in God and angels and the heavens? For without one, the other would not exist or be labelled as such, would it?

All I’m saying is that these things are simple entertainment. They aren’t meant to do any harm, or convert any youngsters into satanism or the like. They’re exercises of the imagination, that’s all.

I understand if you want to teach the views displayed in this article to your children, or friends, or those close to you in your life, that is your right, as it’s your life. I just don’t understand why these things must be thrust at others who simply want to enjoy some good fiction.

Thanks for your comments. I would like to respond to several points you raised:

“I have nothing against Christians, or Catholics, or anyone of any sort of religion. The way I see it, I do not own them or their lives, therefore it is not my place to decide or to tell them what they should believe or how they should live their lives. The only thing I dislike is when people use their religion to restrict other people’s lives, to harass them, or put them down. No one has the right to do that, no matter what.“

So you do not like when Christians use their religion to “restrict other people’s lives…or put them down.” But then you proceed to tell Christians that we should absolutely not do that “no matter what.” So you have come on to a Christian site doing precisely what you said that Christians should not do to others. Isn’t this a contradiction?

“Another thing. From what I can tell, most of you believe that movies and books such as Harry Potter and City of Bones and such are used to convince people into taking up witchcraft and satanism. Well, as someone who enjoys these kinds of books and knows many, many others who do as well, I have to say that you aren’t quite right there. Now, I can’t speak for the entire non-religious population out there, and I’m not going to try to, but I can safely say that the majority of us view these books and movies as simple entertainment. It doesn’t cause us to believe in anything we didn’t already believe in before. “

You are actually missing the main point. The article is stating that the main purpose of the spirit behind this entertainment is to bring you away from God and closer to Hell. This is about your eternal destiny. Satan wants you in hell. God wants you in Heaven. Whether you ultimately practice witchcraft is a secondary issue. There are many people leading happy lives who have no interest in witchcraft whatsoever and yet they are still presently headed for eternity in the Lake of Fire. This article is looking at one means of how we can be distracted and moved in our spirit away from the message of the Bible. Our hearts are open to influence. We can all be moved and swayed by certain things. And this article seeks to warn how movies like these move us away from the Bible by intentionally twisting its message.

“If by simply reading a book we could be so easily lured into believing something, would we not have all become Christians or Catholics ourselves long ago? I mean that as no offense. But if we believed, truly and to the point of “practicing” it, in witchcraft and evil practices, would we not also have to believe in God and angels and the heavens? For without one, the other would not exist or be labelled as such, would it?”

Have you read the Bible? If not, I then encourage you to take up your own challenge and read it and see what you believe. As for good and evil “needing each other” this is an incorrect statement. If you have a baby and love, nurture and care for her do you need to then be wicked, abusive and cold to her so your love “truly exists”? Of course not. Love does not need hate to exist. Nor does goodness require evil. A baby can understand your love without experiencing your hatred. This is why Jesus Christ said:

” And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, 3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. 4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.” – Matthew 18:2-4.

All we need is humility towards God and we can freely receive His love and forgiveness.

All I’m saying is that these things are simple entertainment. They aren’t meant to do any harm, or convert any youngsters into satanism or the like. They’re exercises of the imagination, that’s all.

I understand if you want to teach the views displayed in this article to your children, or friends, or those close to you in your life, that is your right, as it’s your life. I just don’t understand why these things must be thrust at others who simply want to enjoy some good fiction.

The human imagination is a very powerful yet dangerous thing. We produce many evil thoughts in our imaginations because our hearts are wicked. This is the dilemma of humanity. Our SIN. And God sent Jesus Christ to die on the cross to take our punishment so we can be forgiven of that sin. This movie, by its own statements has taken the Bible for its source material, and twisted and perverted it to make villains good and deny Jesus Christ while twisting His account and applying it to some fictional angel. It spent millions of dollars promoting this film’s false message on TV all over the world. And when a Christian website points this out you take issue with the Christians and say “why these things must be thrust at others..” Isn’t running a million-dollar ad campaign on TV and movie trailers “thrusting one’s ideas” at others? Again, I think there are some contradictions here.

I know that the message of the Christian Gospel is a hard one to hear – we don’t want to hear about sin. We don’t want to hear about coming judgment. But that does not change the reality of the situation. We are sinners. And we will be judged by God. I would much rather you spend eternity in Heaven. And I hope and pray you desire that one day as well.

“Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” – Romans 10:13.

The only thing I dislike is when people use their religion to restrict other people’s lives, to harass them, or put them down. No one has the right to do that, no matter what.“

B&E,

she isnt just singling out your belief but all of them. A bible or koran or torah etc in the wrongs hands can be dangerous which we can see that today. In the middle east the holy word of the koran is used to keep females from the time they are born to the day they die in complete control of men. For christianity yes you can spread the gospel but for some christians scaring people into the holy word is damaging and wrong. I saw a documentary on netflix about this haunted house called the hell house and i was appalled by the what they showed people. Like i understand in the holy book homosexuality is a sin but to suggest that god punish gays by giving them aids is cruel and for one aids doesnt just affect homosexuals but everyone strsight people get aids too.

So thats is what olivia means by her statement -any organized religion can be used to justify the harassment, abuse,torture,belittling etc of another human being.

I completely underdstand what Olivia said. But if I say “you should never tell people anything to restrict their lives. No matter what.” – then I have just violated the very rule I have proclaimed. This is a fairly obvious contradiction.

And to compare a haunted house set up by a church to ISIS raping women, beheading children and posting executions on the web is with all due respect, wildly inaccurate. There is no comparison between any Christian Church’s behavior today and the acts of ISIS. There are no Christian pastors preaching that people should convert or be beheaded.

I am still saddened by the way you and others show so much outrage over Christians daring to say homosexuality is a sin but show minimal anger at the horrific acts committed by Muslims daily as reported in the news every day. Shouldn’t the latter have you thousands of times more disturbed and motivated to speak to Muslims with your beliefs? You gave a link to a place where you post to Muslims and I did not see anywhere where you were challenging the beliefs of Muslim or writings about the horrors being committed in the name of Allah. Did I miss those posts?

What christians do may not be as horrendous as beheading but it doesnt make it good either. And i did reply to you my thoughts on what is happening in the middle east and i will state again america may not have people beheding others but we do gave human trafficking, child prostitute, child pornography,violence against people who are different and have you been watching the news about Ferguson and all these police brutality against african-american males? So yes what is gping on in the middle east is tragic but as an american and african american female we have our own problems to deal with.

The deplorable situation in Ferguson, where that police Dept. has a history of numerous complaints of racial harrasment made against them (well before the tragic Michael Brown shooting) is horrible, indeed. So are human trafficking and the other ills you mentioned. Racism is certainly alive in many forms in American society and the rest of the world. However the acts you listed are not doing being done in the name of religion. So again, they do not compare to what ISIS is doing, as their goal is to convert people to their religion through violence and murder. So saying “we have problems of our own” does not explain why you are not on Muslim websites telling Muslims to stop believing in their faith, debunking the Koran and listing all of the violent acts that are being done in the name of Islam today. Yet, you are doing those things about Christianity on a Christian website.

I am just pointing out the inconsistency because the focus always returns to Christianity and the Bible. And I believe that is because Christianity is talking about people’s SIN. Notice that when Atheist was presented with proof of the Bible’s supernatural inspiration, he suddenly departed? This is the resistance we have towards the God of the Bible because of our sin nature. You questioned this nature earlier. My response is simple: if you do not have a sin nature, then stop sinning for the next 3 months. Do not lie, swear, think any evil thoughts or any other sinful behavior. Can you do it?

This crimes may not be done in the name of christianity but the individuals are mostly likely christians.

As for me going to christian websites ,i dont just go to your sites i stumble upon them when i google a topic and a majority of sites that pop up are majority christian websites even when i look for stuff pertaini g to muslims christian sites are the first things that pop up.

As for america, christianity has more influence than people realize. Do you know how many churches i see on a day to day basis when i leave my house? A lot when it comes to matters of state that a majority of people like gay marriage or abortion -christians are the ones on capitol hill protesting against it but the problem is not everyone in america is a christian so you cant judge an entire country on your christian principles or morals. There are other faiths beside christianity in this country but im tired of hearing how christians are being oppressed and picked on when on a daily basis people who are
buddhist, muslim,wiccan,atheist,etc get picked or harassed,bullied,judged,etc by christians because they dont believe in god or see christ as their savior.

As for atheist, there were some posts he made in which he should have handled the situation better but some of his questions did not get answered-i’ve read the post.

As for the sin thing- it would be impossible for any human on this planet not commit any of these sins you why? We’re human we have flawless for a freaking reason. We’re not robots we’re not perfect and not all lies are bad some are just harmless like “no you dont look fat in that dress”.

What nonbelievers dislike most about christians is the constant judgment and no im not talking about sin. The constant judgment by christians who have this ego or pride thinking by default they are better than others because they believe in god. No it does not make you better and constantly telling people “oh i fear for your soul and want you to go to heaven” and other stuff like that please stop ,cause its not really helping anyone then the bible itself (i own 5 of them) there are many things i simply am appalled by it and some contridict each other and the thing is people who are christians are finally seeing this. Its not satan or some evil force turning tbem away its them understanding that the bible has flaws and given the fact that certain parts or pages are missing from the bible and situations like the shourd of turin is locked away and the ones who havent dont want any testing done on it -its quite suspicious dont you think?

I wrote a very long reply but it didnt post so i will try to make this one shorter.

You constant speak of sin which means to miss the mark. So what mark is humanity missing?

Also i just dont go to christian sites to intentionally start an argument i come upon this sites when reasearching a topic and you would be surprised on how many christian blogs or articles,etc pop up.

Christian constantly talk about how their being oppressed in this country and i laugh because that is not even true. I see more chruches than mosques,temples and other forms of worship. Christians are tge ones on capitol hill protesting against abortion and gay rights -newsflash you’re not the only religion in america. Oh but you christians get really steamed when it comes to christmas “why cant i say merry christmas?” “They’re taking the christ outta christmas” -seriously. One christians celebrate too many pagan holidays its 2 big ones are easter and Christmas. Easter is a straight up pagan holiday and not the ressurection of christ because easter depends on the vernal equinox and bunnies and eggs have nothing to do with christ but fertility.

As for atheist, you could have handle his responses to some post better but so could have other comnenters on this forum. Atheist felt attack and when anything feels attack what do you think is gonna happen? They attack back. I have even been called names on this site by abey but no one called her out. So to atheist it seems very one sided to which i do not blame him.

The bible has many contridictions to which i will write about on my own blog,but i the main reason nonbelievers or people of other faiths are constantly in this never ending tug of war with christians is because there is this sense of pride you guys have that makes everyone who isn’t you inferior. Nobody wants to feel like that but you christians do it so much that i doubt you can see your own sins but are quick to point it out in others.

I was just curious to know what School some of you went to. What elementary school, junior high school, high school? Did some of you graduate? Did you get a college degree? Is English still taught in school? Do they still teach correct grammar, spelling, and punctuation in school any more? I’ve been out of school for awhile and was just curious to know what is this country doing to our children! The education system seems to be failing at an increasingly alarming rate! I’m saddened by such blatant ignorance! ‘No Child Left Behind’ Talk about a joke! I can’t even comment on the context of the post because I couldn’t even make it through the content! Jesus help us all…for more reasons than one!

nereusmedia:
Great Post.However just a correction about the origin of Pandemonium.While you are correct in mentioning that John Milton coined the phrase in “Paradise Lost”, the work is in fact an “epic poem” and not a “novel” as you mentioned.You can see from this excerpt from “Paradise Lost” which comes from the section on the raising of Pandemonium in book 1:

“Within his Sanctuary it self thir Shrines,
Abominations; and with cursed things
His holy Rites, and solemn Feasts profan’d, [ 390 ]
And with thir darkness durst affront his light.
First Moloch, horrid King besmear’d with blood
Of human sacrifice, and parents tears,
Though for the noyse of Drums and Timbrels loud
Thir childrens cries unheard, that past through fire [ 395 ]
To his grim Idol. Him the Ammonite
Worshipt in Rabba and her watry Plain,
In Argob and in Basan, to the stream
Of utmost Arnon. Nor content with such
Audacious neighbourhood, the wisest heart [ 400 ]
Of Solomon he led by fraud to build
His Temple right against the Temple of God
On that opprobrious Hill, and made his Grove
The pleasant Vally of Hinnom, Tophet thence
And black Gehenna call’d, the Type of Hell. [ 405 ]
Next Chemos, th’ obscene dread of Moabs Sons,
From Aroar to Nebo, and the wild
Of Southmost Abarim; in Hesebon
And Horonaim, Seons Realm, beyond
The flowry Dale of Sibma clad with Vines, [ 410 ]
And Eleale to th’ Asphaltick Pool.
Peor his other Name, when he entic’d
Israel in Sittim on thir march from Nile
To do him wanton rites, which cost them woe.
Yet thence his lustful Orgies he enlarg’d [ 415 ]
Even to that Hill of scandal, by the Grove
Of Moloch homicide, lust hard by hate;
Till good Josiah drove them thence to Hell.
With these came they, who from the bordring flood
Of old Euphrates to the Brook that parts [ 420 ]
Egypt from Syrian ground, had general Names
Of Baalim and Ashtaroth, those male,
These Feminine. For Spirits when they please
Can either Sex assume, or both; so soft
And uncompounded is thir Essence pure, [ 425 ]
Not ti’d or manacl’d with joynt or limb,
Nor founded on the brittle strength of bones,
Like cumbrous flesh; but in what shape they choose
Dilated or condens’t, bright or obscure,
Can execute thir aerie purposes, [ 430 ]
And works of love or enmity fulfill.
For those the Race of Israel oft forsook
Thir living strength, and unfrequented left
His righteous Altar, bowing lowly down
To bestial Gods; for which thir heads as low [ 435 ]
Bow’d down in Battel, sunk before the Spear
Of despicable foes. With these in troop
Came Astoreth, whom the Phoenicians call’d
Astarte, Queen of Heav’n, with crescent Horns;
To whose bright Image nightly by the Moon [ 440 ]
Sidonian Virgins paid thir Vows and Songs,
In Sion also not unsung, where stood
Her Temple on th’ offensive Mountain, built
By that uxorious King, whose heart though large,
Beguil’d by fair Idolatresses, fell [ 445 ]
To Idols foul. Thammuz came next behind,
Whose annual wound in Lebanon allur’d
The Syrian Damsels to lament his fate
In amorous dittyes all a Summers day,
While smooth Adonis from his native Rock [ 450 ]
Ran purple to the Sea, suppos’d with blood
Of Thammuz yearly wounded: the Love-tale
Infected Sions daughters with like heat,
Whose wanton passions in the sacred Porch
Ezekiel saw, when by the Vision led [ 455 ]
His eye survay’d the dark Idolatries
Of alienated Judah. Next came one
Who mourn’d in earnest, when the Captive Ark
Maim’d his brute Image, head and hands lopt off
In his own Temple, on the grunsel edge, [ 460 ]
Where he fell flat, and sham’d his Worshipers:
Dagon his Name, Sea Monster, upward Man
And downward Fish: yet had his Temple high
Rear’d in Azotus, dreaded through the Coast
Of Palestine, in Gath and Ascalon [ 465 ]
And Accaron and Gaza’s frontier bounds.
Him follow’d Rimmon, whose delightful Seat
Was fair Damascus, on the fertil Banks
Of Abbana and Pharphar, lucid streams.
He also against the house of God was bold: [ 470 ]
A Leper once he lost and gain’d a King,
Ahaz his sottish Conquerour, whom he drew
Gods Altar to disparage and displace
For one of Syrian mode, whereon to burn
His odious off’rings, and adore the Gods [ 475 ]
Whom he had vanquisht.”

Alright really? Really? Ok I’m Lutheran and I agree with no offending dude. Its a well played argument yet I applaud your effort. Now since I am Cains reincarnation don’t diss me or the nephilim cause of some book. I was raised by Angel Razeil himself in eden and Nod and remember it all so if you want to use the corrupt Bible against me it won’t work. All of creation knows I’m back and the majority of humans or mundane think I am a murderer, demon king, wanderer (that parts true), giant, demon or marked one. You know how many references there are that tell you I was a nephilim. I’m half nephilim and I have sevenfold and if you piss me off I’ll make you taste salt. I have a good way of talent of talking and getting my points across. Its funny I’m writting a book and I’m going to tell the world. Peace and rock out bastards love Cain Macabre

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I’m a bit late to join. But I just share my thoughts. I am a Catholic. I am a writer/artist.

I understand the elements clashing here. The artistry and the spiritual facts.

I understood that biblical elements are a bit fragile too be shown as entertainment. But as far as I can discern in Harry Potter and the Shadowhunter Series, they depict a warfare between Good and Evil. Good still prevails at the end.

Nephilim as cited here are descendants of the Devil and pictured as the heroes. Perhaps, don’t you think, the author’s purpose is that, “it does not matter what your blood is but what you do for the sake of others.”

Yes, all the evil things are here. Witchcraft, occult, demonology. I found it educating on what we are up against as God’s children. I am not the type who would shun myself of these things. I’d rather know my enemy and how to fight them than avoid them forthe sake of righteousness.

Besides, you don’t know what is the actual purpose of the author on writing this series.

You have one very incorrect thing you used to make an invalid claim. Clairy and Jace are not brother and sister Valentine lied to them to break their hearts and decieve them qoute “There’s someone here she wants
as much as her mother.
If you lie and tell them they’re
both your children…
you’ll break their hearts.”
“What can I say?
The broken make the best followers.” Conversation between Hodge and Valentine about Clary and Jace. So it’s not true they are not brother and sister. When they heard the lie they discontinued the relationship that was begining there is no incest. If you continue to us that as part of your explanation you are lying to many people. Thou shalt not lie. If you want to check my facts here is a link to the movie script http://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/movie_script.php?movie=the-mortal-instruments-city-of-bones

Erm…. not to poke a bear, but they aren’t siblings at all, they don’t cut their flesh, the runes are artistic versions of runes in the Jewish Torah ( the holy book of the Jewish) , the stele (thing with which they draw the runes ) is modeled after the Jewish Yad, which is a pointed tool used to prevent mortal hands from touching the Jewish Torah. Also the Nazi Sig insignia has never been nor ever will be anything in the mortal instruments, the angel Raziel, who created the first shadowhunters is a Jewish angel also. The books rely heavily on Jewish matters because the authors husband is Jewish, and so is the character she wrote him as. The novels are fun, as is any work of fiction, and they don’t “invoke the devil” or whatever, because they are books. It’s not like fans go out and summon demons just for the hell of it. They are made to be entertaining, and you may not like it, but I will never understand why people like you choose to criticize it. If you don’t like it, you don’t have to read it friend. I mean no harm by my comment here, I just want to educate you on a few points you had incorrect. People love reading them, and that brings them joy, and who are you to deny them of that joy? Surely just like a human father is pleased when his children are happy, God is too. Did God personally tell you to write this article? If so can I get that number? We have a lot to catch up on. Please, next time you write something like this, don’t do it in this bitter vitriolic way, it’s saddening. Also the movie was mundie trash, the TV show is so much better

Hey, it’s just a crappy film about a fairly crappy book. My daughter loves it for entertainment but she’s safe from any “satanic symbols” because she already knows that none of these things exist. Nobody seeing it can possibly believe all that stuff about a demon world with Nephilim and angels, vampìres and werewolves – oh sorry – it’s the sort of stuff you teach your children to believe in …

There are so many things I disagree with here but I am not going to bother going into it. I will say however, that if you are going to criticize the movie at least get simple things right. Clary is celebrating her 18th birthday in the start of the movie. She is not 15 as this article claims. Seriously, if you could not get that right what lese did you fail to understand?

This post is a little bit much. Instead of “scaring” me into not watching any of these, this post scares me that there are people that are this obsessed about something that’s meant to be fantasy. Satan will try to get at anyone through anything, what matters is how you choose to let it affect you. Obsessing too much about how offensive you “think” these movies are can also be Satan’s affect on you. These things are fantasy. They have never once made me interested in the occult, in fact, I have found more interest in history and the origins of different things that “wanting” to “become a witch”. Since I was a child I have always had an active imagination. Fantasy has always fascinated me. I loved Neverending Story, Gulliver Travels, Chronicles of Narnia, Hercules The Legendary Journeys, Xena….. Myths and legends were always a source of inspiration for me, however, I never believed they were real, or let them affect how I lived. I have my parents to thank for that. They taught me well. I love fantasy because it’s just that; fantasy. Nothing more. The movie is not responsible for bringing people to the occult. It all comes down to one thing. The relationship between parent and child. Children are smarter than we give them credit for. They can understand if we try. My children love Harry Potter, but it’s not our households focus. I love Vampire Diaries, but I don’t spend every waking moment obsessing about it. It doesn’t affect my view of the world or of my relationship with God. Why? Because I refuse to let it. Why? Because my parents taught me well. Because instead of removing these movies because they were “influenced by the devil”, they taught us the difference between reality and fantasy. I am not here to debate or argue, simply to say be careful that your opinions don’t become obsessions. The world is not responsible for us being tempted by Satan. We are.

Excuse me, did you even read the Mortal Instrument books? I don’t think you have; otherwise, you would know that the message they are trying to send isn’t at all satanic. The shadowhunters are FIGHTING satan. Obviously they are only BASED on the real Nephilim from the bible and not actually evil. You have this series completely wrong and I suggest you actually read the books instead of basing it all on the movie and not actually knowing what you’re talking about. I completely believe in God and the bible and honestly there is much more satanic symbolism in actual churches than in what this series portrays as “good”. Maybe next time you should actually read the bible and the series before pretending that you know everything about it.

I quote from scripture, as to what accounts as evil. Just because something is fiction it does not mean that the content is not from a demonic source. Trust me I am not the one deluded, many believe because they cant see God or the devil that they are not real, but this simply isn’t true, as their manifestations are seen in the manifestation and works.

Many call themselves Christians but have never read the bible, because if you did you would know that what you call harmless entertainment is not from the light. Yes Harry Potter is harmful, since the film there has been a surge in retail outlets selling magic books, spell books and kids taking an interest in the occult. Is this a good thing?

What we call good and what God calls good are two different things, we view from imperfect eyes and feel with an imperfect heart and swayed be imperfect emotions. The bible says “do not rest upon your own understandings” and that is exactly what you are doing.

I’m not saying that the guy who stars in Twilight is evil, I believe he is deluded or mistaken to believe that taking part in such a film is making Gods heart glad. I have an actor friend who was in casino royal, hit man etc, and since becoming a true christian turns down work which promotes violence, immorality and the occult.

Just look what has happened over the past decade, the influence of vampirism, zombies, the occult, magic etc has dominated every form of entertainment, do you think this is just coincidence, or the influence of demonic power becoming manifest to the point that even when it stares you in the face you don’t recognise it as such. That’s the great delusion mentioned in the bible, this is what will separate the sheep from the goats, those who love righteousness and those that don’t.

It is a time of testing and sifting, this is the reason why Jesus said ” Wide and spacious is the road leading to destruction, where many walk in it, but cramped and narrow is the path that leads to life AND VERY FEW ARE WALKING IT.. Ask your self do very few watch twilight. harry potter and the likes?

As for Walt Disney it’s a bit more subtle, he was known as a paedophile and phalic symbols have been seen hidden with in films. They also use walt disney when it comes to satanic ritual abuse, it’s called Monarch programming where the child is shown and plays out a different reality using these films. This has been revealed many times by adults who have exposed this abuse within their elite family circle. Go and look on you Tube there are plenty of videos exposing the Walt Disney empire.

In England we have a childrens programme called Waybaloo it’s a fun show, with little creatures teaching children exercise by Yoga, now they are introducing it into the schools. Yoga is a way of opening up to the spirit realm and allowing kundalini activity. Many things to day are made to look harmless, satan is the originator of deception, now more than ever, we need to protect ourselves because the devil walks around like a roaring lion looking for a soul to devour, not my words their Jesus.
I notice as a Christian you never quote from the bible why is that?

I have read the bible many times, and you clearly only take from it that which makes you content, for example love will conquer all. This is true if our love is in harmony with what Christ taught.
Quote” I am SAYING Things Out of the LOVE of God and What I am Saying is Right and True” who are you trying to convince, your so far from the truth it’s frightening. You say I am quoting wrong, how can I when it is written word for word in the bible?
QUOTE “Christains CAN’T Save Other Christains because Christains are Already Saved and they know about God. God Wants US Christains to Save the LOST and NONE Christains are the LOST.”
If you truly understood the teachings of Christ you would understand the APOSTACY which is prophesied to take place, the apostacy is within the Christian church, where the church and it’s followers would be lead astray by false teachings, christians will not take the word seriously and practice a watered down version according to the world. So christians are in desperate need of accurate knowledge and protection from the machinations of the devil. Going to a theme park is down to the individuals conscience, there’s nothing wrong with rides or having a good time, but anything that promotes scorcery, witch craft is note something a christian should get involved with.
The bible clearly states that witch craft of any type is wrong, so why would we want to spend time with things that God hates? these things are written for a reason, not just to fill up pages.
As for your friend who is a Mormon, I don’t view them as true christians, I have read their books and about the angel maroni, it really can’t be taken seriously.
I will not reply anymore, your are so engulfed in your world of fantasy that you take no heed of the darkness you embrace, and no acknowledgement of the coming tribulation, instead of wasting your time on this rubbish, gain some biblical wisdom which will help you see the through the coming delusion which will effect the entire world. The bible says that even the elect would be deceived, wake up and learn the real truth that sets you free, and that is to look deeply into Gods word and pray for understanding.

First of ALL Venice, I DON’T have to Quote from th BIBLE to Show, Tell, and Talk about God and God’s AMAZING LOVE! Second of ALL Venice, IF YOU Have Ever REALLY TRUELY READ The Bible then YOU Would know that Jesus “Himself” Didn’t even Alway Quote from God. Sometimes Jesus just talked about Stuff and Said Stuff Out of LOVE and Stuff that was Right and True. Yes, Jesus Did talk a Lot about God and Said things From God but Sometimes He didn’t. I am SAYING Things Out of the LOVE of God and What I am Saying is Right and True. Everything Your Saying is WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU can Quote Scriptures ALL Day Long but IF YOU are Quoting them WRONG, Like YOU are Doing then it still makes YOU WRONG! Yes, God Says in the Bible: For US Christains To Be IN The World but NOT be of The WORLD! SADLY, I DON’T Think YOU even Understand what that Scripture means!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! God wants US Christain to go see Movies, Listen to Music, Read Books, Go to Theme Parks, Go to the Malls, and other things. God Wants US to go to Places and Do Somethings ( KEY WORD) SOMETHINGS where and what NONE Christains do. Christains CAN’T Save Other Christains because Christains are Already Saved and they know about God. God Wants US Christains to Save the LOST and NONE Christains are the LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!! I Can See that You Love and Care about God but it’s SAD because YOU Don’t KNOW God at ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Venice, YOUR So WRONG about the Harry Potter Books and Movies. Harry Potter did NOT Start a Craze of Places selling Magic things. First of NO Book or Movie can get a Store to Sell Stuff! The Store Will Sell Whatever it wants to Sell. Don’t Blame the HP Books and Movies for That. What Stores Sell in Them and Watching/Reading Movies and Books are 2 Different Things. Stores Were Selling Magic Stuff Before HP Every came Out and Stores will be Selling Magic Stuff Long After HP is Forgotten about! It’s FUNNY HOW YOU haven’t Answered My ? About, if You think and believe that going to the Theme Parks Universal Studios and Walt Disney World is a Sin or Evil or Bad????????????????? Deep Down I think You Worried to Answer that ? because A Whole Lot of People Would think Your Weird or Crazy, if You said a Wrong Answer! God’s NOT Like that! If YOU think and believe that some Movies and Books are a Sin and Evil then You have to believe that Some Theme Parks are a Sin and Evil to go to! ALL I got to Say about the WHOLE YOUTUBE and Disney Videos is LOL and HAHA. YES, I have GLADY 🙂 Seen the Disney Stuff on Youtube and I LOLED at Everyone that I Watched. I FEEL SAD for YOU! You are TRUELY a Baby Christain. If YOU believe Stuff that You Read or Watch then I am SAD for YOU! First of ALL NEVER EVER Believe Hardly Anything on You See on Youtube. I Know Better then to Believe things on Youtube and I am 23 Years Old. Also Harry Potter DOES NOT have Demonic Source! First of ALL the Girl WHO Wrote Harry Potter is a Christain. She Loves God as Much as I Love God and as Much as Hopefully YOU Love God too. She is a Christain, Like ME and You Are! As a Christain YOU Should NOT Put Other Christains Down and You should NOT put the Work They Do Down! As a Christai, YOU should Know Better! So Shame ON YOU! Christains and Some Every Few Jews are in God’s Family. So By YOU Putting Down the Sweet, Nice, Loving, and Caring Girl WHOR Wrote Harry Potter then YOU are Putting Down, Your Sister in Christ! So STOP Putting Your Fellow Christain Sister Down. Also the Girl that Wrote Twilight is a Christain too. She is a Mormon. Now there are a WHOLE LOT of Mormons that are NOT True Christain or there are Some Mormons that Have things or get things Wrongs but there are a Few Mormons that are Good And True Loving Christains! and The Girl WHO Wrote Twilight is Just That, She is a Mormon but She is a Good and True Loving Christain. I have 3 Friends from My Home Town WHO are Mormons too but they are Good and God Loving Christains! So STOP Putting Down the Girl WHO Wrote Twilight is Your Other Sister in Christ! NEXT Thing The Guy Booboo that I know from Twilight and His Family are a AWESOME Christian. They Know More about God’s Love, about God, and about How AMAZING God is! Don’T YOU DARE Talk about HIM, Don’t YOU DARE! YOU Don’t Know Anything about God or God’s Love!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FIRST of ALL Venice, Last Time I cheecked YOUR NOT GOD and YOUR Don’t Know GOD! So HOW DARE Say that God is NOT HAPPY or GLAD with Booboo Stewart for being in Twilight, YOU KNOW NOTHING! YES, GOD is to HAPPY, GLAD, and PROUD of Booboo! Booboo is in a Movie that a Fellow Christain Wrote and He is Showing God’s Love through His Acting! SO YES, GOD is Very HAPPY and PROUD of HIM. but God Might NOT be to Happy with YOU for Putting Fellow Christains Down and for NOT Showing His LOVE! Vampires are NOT REAL! Vampires are FAKE and MADE UP! FAKE Things are NOT a Sin or Evil because There NOT REAL! REALThings Sometimes can be a Sin or Evil because There REAL! REAL is REAL and FAKE is FAKE! God Knows That and I Know That but It’s SAD because YOU Don’t Know that! Demonic Things are REAL, If Something is FAKE then it CAN’T be Demonic! Vampires are NOT REAL! Unless Do YOU Know any Vampires?????????????????????????? Werewolves are NOT REAL! Do YOU Know Any Werewolves?????????????????????? Zombies are NOT REAL! Monsters are NOT REAL! MOST kids and Teenages Know that Monsters are NOT REAL! For the Kids and Teens that Believe Monsters are REAL then the Fault is on the Parents. God wants People to Teach there Kids Right and Wrong and Real and Fake. Most Kids and Teenagers can Watch and Read Harry Potter and Twilight and They Know it’s FAKE! Most Kids and Teens can See a Gaint Talking Spider in HP and they Know it’s NOT REAL! It’s SAD YOU May Not be Smart then a 5th Grader! Entertainment is NOT a Bad thing, a Sin, or Evil. Entertainment is Just Entertainment! Please Look Up the Meaning of the Word Entertainment and Tell Me What it MEANS! HP and Twilight and COBTMI or Other Movies Like these 3 Movies are Just Entertainment! So YES, Those Movies and Books are Just Harmless because they are FAKE! FAKE Things Can’t cause Harm because they are FAKE! A FAKE Knife Can’t Cause HARM because it’s WHAT???????????????? A FAKE Knife is FAKE! Please, Please Learn the Differents Between Real and Fake! I Love Zombie Books, Movies, and TV Shows. I Love Vampire Books, Movies, and TV Shows. I Love Werewolve Books, Movies, and TV Shows. I Love Mummy Books, Movies, and TV Shows. I Love Dragon Books, Movies, and TV Shows. I Love Monster Books, Movies, and TV Shows! I Love Monsters! I Love Dragons! I Love Werewolves! I Love Zombies! I Love Vampires! I KNOW Everything that I Said I Loved is ALL FAKE and Since it’s FAKE it’s NOT Demonic! I have READ The Bible and I Still READ The Bible Everyday and I Pray Morning, Noon, and Night. So Since I HAVE READ the WHOLE Bible and I have Read ALL those Scriptures that YOU Talked about but YET NO WHERE in Those Scriptures did I Ever Read or See where it’s Say that Watching Vampire movies, Zombie Movies, HP Movies, or Others are a Sin or Evil. So WHERE are YOu getting that from????????????????? Fake Movies and Books Can’t Change People or Change Peoples Hearts because Fake stuff is FAKE but Real Movies and Books Can Change People and Change Peoples Hearts because Real Stuff is REAL! Movies and Books About Drugs, Stealing Things, Mudering, and having UnMarriage Sex, know those Movies I do not watch because Those Movies and Books are Real and They teach People that Sin is OKAY! Movies and Books about Vampires Don’t Teach People about anything because Most People are Smart and Know That Vampires are Fake and Stories about Vampires are FAKE! The TV Show Vampire Diaries. Well I Love that TV Show and I Watch that TV Show! I am from a Small Town in Ga. I Live inFL Now but I am From Ga. I — USE to go to the School and Some of the Towns Where They Filmed and Still Film Vampires Diaries! I — USE to go to School at Athens Tech. College in Monroe, Ga ! They Filmed Some of Vampire Diaries at Athens Tech. College in Monroe, Google IT!!!!!!!!!!!! I — USE to go to that School and Some of My Friends and My Christain Friends where Extras a Few Times in the VD TV Show! I was Almost an Extra one time in VD. I have Seen them Film some of Vampire Diaries 4 Different Times. NO, My Old School was NOT Wrong for letting the Show be Filmed there and My Friends that we’re Extras in Vampires Diaries, NO they are NOT Wrong for being in the Show. God. Is Proud of My Friends! I PRAY that YOU Will Learn what Real and Fake is! God is LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just had to interrupt for a moment and tell you how much I love reading your rants! 🙂 I would hate to get on your bad side! Haha. I used to live in Athens so I wanted to give you a big UGA woof-out and say GO DAWGS!!!

I wish I could work in Disney World, that sounds like an amazingly fun job! I was just down there a little while ago… I can totally see the perky spunk in your responses that epitomizes the energetic happy spirit that all Disney employees seem to have!!! ***HUG***

Q, seriously? Noelle’s rants are misinformed, disrespectful, and clearly not flowing from the Holy Spirit. There is nothing of the Holy Spirit in Noelle’s rants. She is rambling out of her own anger, arrogance, and confusion. My intention is not to judge; I feel led by the Spirit to make this post. I’ll pray for both of you tonight. You only have to read 2 lines of any of Noelle’s rants and see that something is wrong. True, born again, Spirit filled, Bible believing Christians don’t act or speak like Noelle does.

You’re very welcome Noelle! I see where the others are coming from, but we Christians take things a little too extreme sometimes. I love Harry Potter and Halloween and can’t ever seem to not enjoy vampire flicks and all the other supernatural tales. I know there’s a darker side which some people get into, but the material itself is rather harmless imagination. I’ve never once had an inkling to delve into the dark arts from watching anything, because it’s obvious make believe. ***HUGS***

Noelle, with all due respect, for a 23-yr-old, you have a very childlike view of the Lord. The God of the bible Is Not Santa Claus. He does not simply love us & save our souls & give us whatever we ask for. The scriptures tell us that there will be a day of reckoning for every person who has ever lived. We are all sinners & all capable of being saved through God’s grace & the blood sacrifice Christ made for us. But that grace isn’t cheap. The fact that or sins are forgiven once we are saved does not mean that the Lord doesn’t hold us to a standard. Just as your earthly parents set standards for your behavior, for what they will & will not allow, our heavenly Father sets standards for us — the highest standards possible because He Is God! And if you claim to be a follower of Christ, then He expects you to live by His Father’s standards as expressed in the bible, just as Jesus did.

The fact that something is ‘fake’ because it’s in a move doesn’t mean it has no meaning or impact in the real world — you get that, right? Hollywood wouldn’t spend the huge amounts it pays to make blockbuster films if the people behind those movies didn’t KNOW that what they’re putting on that screen is going to influence millions of people across the globe. Big movie franchises like Twilight & Harry Potter sucked people like you into being fascinated by the occult as little kids — but God tells us to avoid the occult. A whole generation of yong adults who came up when you did have spent BILLIONS since you were kids, buying Harry Potter books, toys & trinkets, seeing all the movies then buying the DVDS. You’ve made JW Rowling filthy rich. And for what, Nicole?

How has it benefited you, in any way, to consume all this occult “entertainment”? Harry Potte & twilighgt have since spawned new tv shows about vampires, witches & zombies to infect the minds of the current generation of kids. Witches & warlocks are very real, but you’re a Christian. Why do you want to watch movies about a bunch of witches going to school together? Why put your mental energy & focus on that? On zombies & vampires, which don’t exist but definitely represent evil & the occult? (What could be more demonic than the walking dead?!)

The fact that you are a Christian & place such great value on “entertainment” that promotes the occult proves the warnings of the scriptures. These are “the last days”, Satan & his agents are running things for now & most of what is fed to the masses as “entertainment” was created to take your $$ while warping people’s minds & short-circuiting their powers of discernment. The holy spirit gives us the ability to see hidden truths, to peep out the real agenda behind the facade. God despises all forms of the occult. He even condemned witches to be executed: Exodus 22: 18 — “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.” Unlike vampires & zombies, witches & warlocks ARE real, they practice the occult under many different names. So why would you, as a Christian, want to spend your time and money being entertained by something that explicitly depicts behavior that God condemns? And the people responsible for creatign this crap to sell to you will eventually be called to account by God: “Woe unto
them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!” – Isaiah 5:20

You said: “God Cares about Really People and Things. God, Doesn’t Care about Fake Monsters, People Who are Just Acting and Made Up Things!” But the bible shows us that there is really no “make-believe” or “fake’ world in God’s eyes. The Lord is omniscient, aware of everything we do, every word we speak, every thought in our minds — & the future consequences of our actions. Our thoughts don’t become ‘real’ until we act on them. Our prayers are not manifested until God answers them, but He hears them even when we don’t say them aloud. Thinking evil thoughts then saying it was just “pretend” doesn’t get over with God — that’s why murderous video games like GTA are so demonic. The Lord makes it clear that He wants us to focus our mental energy on good & godly things.

God even tells us to spend our $$ on true & worthy things: Proverbs 23:23 –“Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.” The scriptures prove that What You Put Into Your Mind Matters To God: Philippians 4:8 – “Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.” Do movies about vampires & witches fit that description?

You’re grown & free to do as you please, same as any other adult. But right now, it’s obvious that there are 2 conflicting spirits battling within you, Nicole — the spirit of God & the spirit of Satan. They are fighting for your soul in a very real way. The one who will ultimately win will be the one you feed the most.

Before Noelle answers that, can I just say to her defense that she’s only been a Christian for ten years! I think it’s a little harsh to hit her with that response, from Christian to Christian. Of course, everything you said is correct, I have no argument there, but I’m not sure it’s constructive in this instance. She is passionate for the Lord and has a heart for God. I don’t think we need to discourage her spirit by cutting into her like that. So she’s focused in on the love of God and seems a bit dismissive about the darker realities. I don’t necessarily think that’s a bad thing for her right now. She’s locked in on the light and love of God, she doesn’t seem like someone who’s being damaged or influenced by evil. If anything, her exuberance is contagious! Her light jumps off the screen! I’m just sayin. She’s erring on the side of love, is that such a bad thing?? We all have our weaknesses and hang ups. I think maybe this is not someone we want to necessarily discourage. Not right now.

If I’m wrong, I’m sorry. It’s not the first time and it won’t be the last. God bless you all.

RC, If YOU CAN’T READ then Don’t READ because it’s CLEAR YOU CAN’T READ! If YOU Could then What YOU First Said I is WRONG and Makes NO SINCE! I NEVER EVER Said God WAS or WAS Like Santa Claus! YOU. WRONG and a BIG FAT LAIR! So go Read What I Wrote Again and This TIME Really Read IT or Don’t Read it ALL because If YOU Put Words into MY MOUTH That I didn’t SAY then It Makes YOU Look DUMB, WRONG, MEAN, and a LAIR! I HOPE and I Know God will Forgive YOU, RC for Lying because YOU Didn’t to Tell a Lie or be Mean! FIRST of AL RC, I was Talking to Venice and SINCE Venice Seem to NOT Know the Differents Between FAKE and REAL! What I SAID was ” Santa Claus is FAKE too!” So I Proved WHAT YOU Said was FALSE! So either YOU Can’t Read or Your DUMB or Your A Lair or Your Just Plan MEAN or Your ALL 4 of Those Things! What I SAID, I was Telling VENICE Only No One Else that Santa Claus was NOT REAL because She Believes the Magic in Harry Potter is Real then I Figured, She Must Believe Santa Claus is REAL too. What I am Saying ins Harry Potter and Twilight and Others Like Those 2 are FAKE and NOT REAL and Santa Claus is FAKE! RC, If YOU Can’t Understand that, then YOU have just Proven at 23 Years Old that I am SMART then YOU! RC, YOU ARE SO WRONG, WRONG, and WRONG! RC, I AM So SORRY that Satan has Tricked YOU! RC, YOUR WRONG Grace is CHEAP! If YOU have ever Read the Bible, which I can See that YOU Haven’t cause If YOU had then YOU wouldn’t Have Said Grace isn’t Cheap! If YOU Read the Bible then YOU Would Know Grace is FREE! God’s GRACE is 100% FREE but YOU have to Want God’s Grace, God Won’t give Someone Something if they Don’t Want it! Grace is FREE! I can SEE that YOU Don’t have Any Kids because if YOU had a Kid or Kids then YOU Would Know Grace is FREE! Grace is NOT Something YOU have to Earn. If a Parent makes there Child Earn Grace from Them then they are Bad Parents! Love is FREE Also! YOU Can’t Earn Love! Grace and Love is FREE and FREE! RC, PLEASE Go Look Up the Meaning of the Word Grace because CLEARLY YOU DON’T Know What Grace is At ALL! YES, YOU are 100% Right God is Our Father! God is Parent! If YOU were A Parent then YOU would Know that a Child is Always Your Child NO MATTER WHAT! Your Child is Always Your Child No Matter How Old the Get, No Matter Where the Go to, and No Matter What They Do, there Still Your Child! If YOU have a Child they never Stop being Your Child! Even if the Child Breaks YOUR Rules they are Still Your Child, Even if They Make You Mad or Sad they are Stiil Your Child! If Your Child Steals, if they Lie, if they are Gay, Even If Your Child Muders Someone, They are Still Your Child. There is NOTHING a Child could or can Ever do to make them Stop being Your Child! YES, if a Child does something Bad or Wrong, they Might have to be Punished. If We Break God’s Rules then God Might have to Punish US Christains because We are His Kids! God Never Ever Made a Rule that Said Watching and Reading FAKE Movies and Books are a Sin and Evil! FAKE is FAKE! REAL is REAL! I Know that and God Knows that but DO YOU Know that???????????????? As a Christain Just because YOU, RC Know HOW to Quote Some Scriptures, well That Doesn’t Matter if YOU Don’t Understand What the Scripture Means or Your Quote IT to Mean What YOU Want it to Mean! There are MANY and MANY Christains that Will Qoute Scriptures and Say Stuff is Evil and a Sin because They Say the Scriptures back what they Say up! I was Just Walking at a Park in Orlando and 3 Christain Black Guys came Up to ME and a Family member of Mine and They Talked to US and gave US a Paper. They Believe That Jesus is Black and Only Black Christains go to Heaven ! All 3 of them had Bibles and it was the Same Bible that ALL US Cristains Read and They had Scriptures too. There Scriptures were on the Piece of Paper that they gave US! Just because Those 3 Black Men Read the Bible and can Quote some Scriptures does it make them Right? NO, It Makes them WRONG! There are Some White Christains that Say and Believe ONLY White People go to Heaven! They Read the Bible and have Scriptures to Quote too. It’s doesn’t Make them Right, it Makes them WRONG! RC, YOU are WRONG! Most Christains DO NOT Understand God and Jesus at all. Most Christains Would Turn Jesus Down if HE was Standing before them in Todays Time because of the Way Jesus would Act, The Things He would Say, The Movies, Shows, and Books that He would Watch and Read, The Places He would GO to, and The People HE Would Talk to and Hang Out with! This So TRUE because YOU Read the Bible then You’ll Read about the People WHO Killed Him. They Looked Down on Jesus because He didn’t go around Telling People that Everything is a Sin and Evil, He didn’t go around calling People Sinners and tell them they were going to Hell, Sometimes Jesus would Say that but MOST of the Time Jesus Just Talked Nice, Caring, and Loving to People. RC, It’s SAD because the way YOU Talk YOU Don’t Really Know Jesus or God! Rc, PLEASE, PLEASE GO Watch the Christain Movie Called Another Perfect Starnger! Once YOU Watch Another Perfect Starnger then Message Me back because then Maybe Your Eye’s WILL Be Opened! God is LOVE!

RC, I wasn’t going to send YOU another Message because I Already Sent One Message! But I Read some of Your Postes and I Realized, YOUR a MEAN JERK WHO is SO WRONG and LOST that it’s NOT Even FUNNY! I Know that My New Friend Q Said You are Right but Q is Kind of Wrong for Saying Your RIGHT! Sorry Q, RC is So WRONG! RC, I was Right to Say YOU Can’t READ, YOU Got My Name Wrong 3 or 4 times. My Name is NOELLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FYI, Satan is NOT a Spirit! Satan is an Angel, He is a Fallen Angel but an Angel None the Less! RC, I HATE to Break Your Little Heart but There are NO Spirit Battling inside ME! Jesus, is Inside ME! So I WIN, YOU LOSE! Do YOU Want to PLAY Again or TRY Again? I am a Christain and When YOU are are Christain YOU Only have Jesus in Your Heart! Jesus and Satan CAN’T and WON’T be in the Same HEART! DUH! I am a Christain, I go to Heaven whenever I DIE! Are YOU a TRUE Christain though??????????? The Way YOU Talk Wrong and Mean Like, YOU Might Just be a FALSE or FAKE Christain! I am Saved and Jesus is in My Heart, So I am Good 🙂 ! I am NOT the ONE WHO is WRONG and LOST, YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I Thank God, that You are NOT GOD! Harry Potter is FAKE! A Occult or The Occult is REAL! If YOU Do NOT Know the Differents Between FAKE and REAL then I am Sorry Your Parents Never TOLD what Real and Fake. Is it a Sin to Watch a Movie about Real Witches Doing Magic, YES because it’s Real! Watching a FAKE Movie about FAKE Magic and FAKE Witches, is NOT a SIN or EVIL because it’s FAKE! A FAKE Knife Can’t Hurt Someone because it’s FAKE! Real Knife Can Cut Someone because it’s a Real Knife! God Cares About The REAL, NOT about The FAKE! The Occult is Real! Harry Potter is FAKE. If YOU can Prove to ME that Harry Potter is Real then You’ll be Right that it is a Sin and Evil! So RC, HOW Many Gaint Talking Spiders do YOU Know of??????????? I am Sorry if YOU Can’t See a Gaint Talking Spider in HP and Know that HP is FAKE then Most Kids and Teenages are Smarter then YOU and I am Smarter then YOU! Maybe, Your Just Confused! FYI, Just because You Don’t Like Something or Don’t Watch Something Doesn’t Make it a Sin and Evil! Your Confused, Just because YOU Don’t Like HP and You Don’t Watch HP, Does NOT Make HP a Sin and Evil! I LOVE the Colors Black, Red, Green, and Baby Blue! Know Just because YOU Don’t Like the Colors that I DO, does NOT Make it a Sin for ME to Like Them! Just because YOU Don’t Like HP, Doesn’t Make HP a Sin! God Never Once in the Bible said Liking, Reading, and watching FAKE things was a SIN! If YOU Say HE Said that then Your LYING and that WON’t Make God Happy at ALL! RC, I Work at Walt Disney World and at Universal Studios too! At Universal they have Halloween Horror Nights and I am about to Start Working a HHN. A Lot of My Christain Friends and Few on My 🙁 None Christain Friends Work as Zombies Durning HHN. My Christain Friends are Some Amazing Christains and Love God Like I DO! So WHY is it So hard for YOU to Show God’s Love? God is Love and God Bless You!

Again, I mean no disrespect to anyone, But I’m an old-head who calls ’em like I see ’em. I pay attention to the subtext of people’s words, not just the words themselves. I don’t sit by & let anyone talk out of both sides of their mouth when it comes to the scriptures. And I know that actions always speak louder than words.

My question to you is how can you claim anyone is “passionate for the Lord and has a heart for God” when you’ve seen them admit to saturating their mind with occult entertainment for years? Is being ‘nice’ more important than being honest with them based on your knowledge of God’s word?

Walking with Christ is a long & difficult road & at times, we all stumble or get lost — myself included. But that’s when fellow Christians are supposed to redirect us, with the help of the scriptures, so we get back on the right path. God will not guide or protect anyone who is paying lipservice to following Him while dealing in witchcraft. And a Christian is obligated to seriously warn a fellow Christian who’s engaging in spiritually dangerous behavior — period.

One of Satan’s best tricks in the last 2 decades has been convincing Christians that *we’re* being rude or harsh if we speak out bluntly to shame the Devil & his works. But if we don’t, who will?

This isn’t about me beiing right — it’s about what God warns us to stay away from. After sexual sins & greed, IMO, occult influences are Satan’s highest caliber weapon. I’ve recently read some accounts about occult events that would curl your teeth — yet Noelle thinks all that stuff is harmless & ‘fake’? Someone needed to pull her coat — hard. Occult influences can twist up a person’s mind before they know what hit them. And delivering those demons to people through ‘entertaiment’ blinds them to what’s really happening to them spiritually.

At the end of my days, I will have to acount to God for how I handled His word & how I dealt with fellow Christians, whether I lead folks to Him or let them be mislead. So if you’re standing next to me on the corner & I see a bullet coming at you, I’m not gonna whisper “Hey, maybe you should move out the way.” I’m gonna push you out of the path of that bullet. You can be mad at me later if you choose to, but at least you won’t be dead.

Thank You, Q! RC is Just PLAN Out WRONG and VENICE is WRONG! I became a Christain at Age 13 Years Old but I have been Going to Church My Whole and I still Go to Church and I have Read the Whole Bible for half of My Life. BOTH My Daddy’s Said of the Family and My Mother’s Said of the Family are Baptist Christains. I am Baptist Christain. I have an Amazing Daddy and I had a Wonderful Grand-Father that Showed ME How GREAT and AWESOME God and Jesus are and They BOTH Showed ME that God and Jesus are LOVE! They BOTH Told ME and Showed ME what LOVE and GRACE was! So I know I WHOLE LOT about God and HOW God is and What the Bible Say! If Jesus was on the Earth Today at this Everytime, YES Jesus would Watch Harry Potter, Twilight, City of Bones The M I, and Others Like those! Anyone WHO has Read The WHOLE Bible Knows HOW Jesus. Jesus Hang Out with Sinners and Fishermen and with Sick People! Jesus Hang Out and was Friends with People that other People Looked Down ON! Jesus, Stoud Up for a Girl and Stooped Her from being Stoned. The Girl had Se With a Married Man but Jesus Stoud Up for HER and Saved Her from being Stoned to Death! People were MAD at Jesus when He did that and they did NOT Understand WHY He did that! SADLY, I FEEL that Venice and RC would be some of those same People wanting to Stone that Poor Girl! People Wanted to Stone Her because She Did something that a Sin and Evil! Q, It. SADDEnS ME because MOST Christains Today Don’t Know What REAL Love is! To Know Real Love is to Know Jesus because Jesus is LOVE! God is LOVE! The Bible is NOT a Rule Book! The Bible is a Book of and about LOVE! Q, YOU Seem Like AN Awesome, Sweet, Loving, Nice, and Caring Christain, the Way I Christain should BE! I Know in My Heart that God Is PROUD of YOU! YOU Make God HAPPY Through Your Actions and Words! Keep on Being an Amazing Christain and Let God’s LOVE Shine Through YOU! Q, Have YOU ever Seen 2 Christain Movies Called The Perfect Starnger and Another Perfect Starnger?????????????? If YOU have never Seen and Watched The Perfect Starnger and Another Perfect Starnger then Go Watch Them! YOU Will Like Them! Those are 2 of the BEST Christain Movies that I have ever Seen!!!!!!!!!!!!! I Am Sending Love and Prayers Your way 🙂 <3 🙂 !

Hey RC. Point taken and I agree with you completely in principle. For some reason I can’t help feel protective of Noelle and others when I sense that everyone is ganging up on them, or that they at least might feel like they are. She is naive, yes. But God bless her heart, she’s got a lot of spunk. I admit, I’m a softie. I can’t help it. 🙂

JESUS WOULD WATCH HARRY POTTER AND TWILIGHT you are joking right?
Christ came to Earth and shed his lifes blood, was tempted by satan, rebuked satan, cast out demons, is presently preparing to go to war with them. Do you really think that this King of kings would find witch craft satisfying to his soul? I pray to God that this isn’t the mass mind set of young christians in America, because if it is it’s truly worrying that people really don’t understand the gospel.

Hey, Venice and NO I am NOT Joking! I Know and I have Jesus in My HEART, So I Know What He would DO! I have said this many times already before and Your to Much of a Baby Christain to get it in Your Head! Harry Potter, Twilight, and Movies like Those are FAKE! Jesus doesn’t CARE at ALL about FAKE Things! If YOU think that YOU Must NOT Know Jesus at ALL! Yes, Jesus Would watch Those Movies because they are FAKE and They Mean Nothing! A FAKE Knife is FAKE! A REAL Knife is REAL! A FAKE Toy Gun is FAKE! A REAL Gun is REAL! Can a FAKE Knife cause Harm to Someone???????????? PLEASE Answer that ?. Can a FAKE Toy Gun cause Harm to Someone?????????? PLEASE Also Answer this ?. Can Harry Potter a FAKE Movies cause HARM to Someone???????????? NOW be Careful HOW YOU Answer that ? Because if YOU Answer the First 2 ?’s Right but then YOU Answer the Last ? Wrong then YOU will Look Like a Lair! There is ONLY One Answer for ALL those 3 ?’s and it’s the Same Answer! There NO Witch Craft is Something REAL! Again I Say HP is FAKE, MADE UP, and NOT REAL! The Witch Craft in HP is ALL FAKE, So in REALILTY there is NO Witch Craft in HP! DUH! Your Looking at that Movies with Your Eye’s NOT with Your Heart! I Look at it with My Heart, NOT My Eye’s! and Plus UNLike You, I Know WHAT the Differents and MEANING of the 2 Words REAL and FAKE, mean! Eye’s can See and then LIE but a Heart with Jesus’s Love Inside can See and See the Truth! Next thing Where in the World are YOU getting Satisfyed from?????? First of ALL watching Harry Potter or Watching ANY Kind of Movies or TV Shows, Does NOT Even Satisfy ME Ever! Listening to Music and Reading Books and Watching Shows, Does NOT Satisfy ME! YOU, Don’t Know WHY People Watch TV and Watch Movies, Listen to Music, and Read Books, MOST People DO NOT Watch TV and Movies, Read Books, and Listen to Music to get or be Satisfyed! They do not it to get Away from the Real World for a Little bit, to be CareFree for a Little While, and to Smile and be Happy 🙂 for a few Hours! Venice, if YOU Want Keep on with How Bad and a Sin Harry Potter, Twilight, and This One ( City of Bones The M I ) then Ok. Venice, I am going to Post a New Post on Monday or Tuesday, I can’t do it Today or Tomorrow because I am busy Working at the Halloween Horror Nights at Universal! When I Post My New Post YOU Read or Not Read if You want to! I HOPE YOU and RC BOTH Will Read My New Post! God is LOVE!

Its not whether a film is fake or not, this isn’t the issue here. It’s the influence and intention portrayed in such movies and what message does it give to the viewer, is it an influence geared toward the teachings of Christ or are they to entice the viewer to look deeper into the unknown?

I don’t believe your as naive as you make out, everyone knows that the film industry has great influence on the public. In the 50’s you would only see a couple sitting on a bed kissing, then as time went on the feet were on the bed, now we see full blown sex scenes. We had vampire nosferatu then dracula, then the exorcist, now we have singers parading satanic symbolism, skulls, pentagrams, the owl of molech. Every other film is about the supernatural, witch craft, aliens & super natural beings.

You would have to be as thick as planks to not see that there is an ever increasing trend toward darkness. Being a MATURE christian means that christ within us gives us wisdom which separates us from the rest of the world, that we walk in the light and that our trained conscience is instinctively alerted to protect us against such influences.

You may believe in Christ but you disregard how he feels about the influence from the ruler of this world, you find delight in what he is coming to destroy. The saddest thing is, you are not alone, many christians are blinded as to the influences of the ruler of this world. They are to weak to pick up their torture stake and follow Christ, they love the world too much to hate what is bad, they like to have their feet in both camps, which is a dangerous place to be..

Noelle — I apologize for getting your name wrong. The resolution on my browser set pretty big so I don’t see the entire post on a single screen when I’m typing. Which is why I called you Noelle in some places & Nicole in others.

But that is all I will apologize for.

I meant everything that I said & I cited scriptures to support it. So it wasn’t just me spouting personal opinions the way folks love to do online. Whereas you threw on caps lock & yelled at me (& Venice) without quoting a single bible verse. Why is that, Noelle?

If you’re a Christian, why don’t you cite God’s word to support your arguments, rather than just yeling & screaming about your own opinions? This thread is about what mass media promotes & how it contradicts God’s teachings — or was that lost on you? If you disagree with something that’s been stated here, you shoud be able to quote scripture as the basis for your beliefs.

And are you really so uneducated that you cannot grasp the concept of an ANALOGY as a figure of speech? (Google it!) I never said that you claimed God was Santa Claus. I merely made a comparison that illustrated how your shallow ideas about God are akin to the way children view Santa Claus. You want to claim all God’s love & blessings while ignoring all His rules & warnings — which is the definition of bogus Christianity.

You ranted & raved about God’s Love without ever considering God’s Vengance — a divine right which He claims repeatedly throughout the bible. God wouldn’t be God if He allowed humans to break His laws without consequences. And ever calamity the befell humans in the bible came about as the result of SIN, i.e. disobeying God’s lams & AFTER God had warned people that He was going to punish them if they did not change their sinful ways & start obeying Him. The book of Proverbs states, not once but twice: “THERE IS WAY WHICH SEEMETH RIGHT UNTO A MAN, BUT THE END THEREOF ARE THE WAYS OF DEATH.”

Yes, Death! That verse appears in Proverbs 14:12 & Proverbs 16:25. Which has always struck me as significant because I have not found any other bible verse that appears twice, with the exact same wording, within a single chapter. Which must mean that our Lord wanted to emphasize that concept for our benefit. You would do well to spend an evening reading the book of Proverbs in the KJV.

You can call me ‘mean’ all you want, doesn’t faze me one bit. But folks like you, who think anything you choose to do is okay with God, who believe anyone who calls themself a Christian will be accepted by God even when they disobey His teachings — you & those like you will end up paying for your mistakes with your very soul. You yell & scream like a 3-yr-old who’s had her favorite toy taken away when someone points out that occult-focused entertainment is NOT accetpable in God’s eyes. Which only proves how deeply your spirit is infected by demonic influences — period! But you don’t see it because the carnal mind cannot understand spiritual things.

Demons always make their hosts snap to attention to defend their stronghold. Evil spirits LOVE to make the people they control holler & act out & cause disruption — in person or online — because confusion & chaos are the polar opposite of how God does things. When a true Christian rebukes a demonic influence in someone, those demons get agitated & make their host get agitated too, lest the person they inhabit start hearing God’s word, heeding it & seeking to cast those demons out! Sadly Noelle, your remarks here only underscore what real Christians know about how occult influences work. The fact that you don’t go around casting spells & drinking blood doesn’t mean all that that HP & Twilight haven’t corrupted your mind & spirit. If they hadn’t influenced you, you wouldn’t expend so much energy defending demonic crap like that.

And FYI, I am a woman, same as you — I just prefer to use my initials rather than a first name. If you really are a Christian and no just a troll tryigng to disrupt this thread, then know this: I tried to pull your coat twice. So did Venice. You can & will do what you want with the wisdom we’ve presented to you here. But someday, when it all hits the fan, you will remember that at least 2 Christians tried to school you on this in Jesus name, according to God’s word.

“But they obeyed not, neither inclined their ear, but made their neck stiff, that they might not hear, nor receive instruction.” – Jeremiah 17:23

Hey, Venice I Really HOPE YOU Read My Post whenever I Post it UP here! Skulls are Just BONES! I Wear Skulls Sometimes! It’s SAD reallY I am the Kind of Girl and Person that Most Christains and NONE Christains Look Down on and Judge Just By My Look or My Looks! None Christains Look Down on ME and Judge ME because MOST of them are MEAN! Christains Look Down on ME and Judge ME because they have WRONG Views on and about GOD, Just Like YOU and RC DO! I Said it in on of My Other Post. I Many Different Styles that Make UP ME 🙂 ! Somedays I Dress Gothic or Goth, Somedays I Dress Emo, Somedays I Dress Punk or Punk Rock, Somedays I Dress Skater Girl because I LOVE Skateboarding, Somedays I Dress Tomboy, Somedays I Dress Sporty, and then Somedays I Just Dress inMy Crazy OWN Style! So YES, I Wear Skulls, I SAY and DO ROCK ON! My Favorite Colors are Black, Red, Green, and Baby Blue. I Like to Wear Glow in The Dark Things and I Like to Wear things that Flash in the Dark. and Much More. I am A Sweet, Loving, Caring, Nice, and Friendly Christain but I have My Style that Most People think is Weird! Yet, out of that I Know More about God and He Love then Most Christains DO and Show is LOVE to Everyone and in Everything I DO! Yet, Christains Like YOU and RC Don’t !

Well RC, Your WRONG! I don’t CAP Words because I am Yelling them, I CAP Words on things that I REALLY and TRUELY mean and I CAP Words that are Important! So NO, I was NOT yelling on HERE! I was just showing what I said Sometimes was Important! See YOU were WRONG again! Just Like or Out Look on Movies and Books and TV Shows and Maybe other stuff to, is WRONG! YOU Saw My WORDS that I just mean’t as Important and YOU took them as ME Yelling at You, Which I did NOT do! I DON’T Like Yelling at all, So I TRY My BEST NOT to DO IT! I have a Loving but Crazy Gradma that Yells and I DON’T Like when She yells and She Yells A Whole LOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So Just Like Your View on ME Yelling was WRONG! Is the Same as Your View on Movies Like HP, COBTMI, and Twilight and Others Like them is WRONG too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Satan has YOU in a Trap and YOU can’t even See IT! I am going to Post up a NEW Post Tomorrow or Tuesday, It’s for Everyone to Read but it’s MORE for YOU and Venice to Read! So I HOPE Ya’ll BOTH Read My Post! (P.S.) I KNOW The Bible and I KNOW GOD, So I Don’t have to Quote Scriptures to Speak God’s TRUTH! Besides, I can See YOU and Venice Quote Scriptures but ya’ll are getting Them WRONG! So ya’ll Either Don’t Understand Them or ya’ll Don’t Understand GOD!

Hello Noelle,
I know what it’s like to be judged, I am also Judged by various Christians for speaking out about the things I see. But I promise you I don’t want to come across as Judgemental, I speak out of caring and out of love and experience. I was a Christian many years ago who was quite naive, I had many worldly friends who were very drawn to New Age ideas, which the church today are slowly introducing like holy spirit yoga, laying on of hands and reiki healing. I crossed an invisible line and found myself pursued by wicked spirits, in the end I had to leave my friends because their whole view was a melting pot of various teachings based on LOVE, they were so called good people but couldn’t see that LOVE may feel right, but if it’s mixed with an interest in the occult/new age we leave ourselves open to the influence of demonic entities.
These creatures are behind every aspect of the occult, the word occult means hidden, this is very appropriate as the majority of the world, are either not interested or are oblivious to the invisible force which manifests through humans to produce films, video games, music, belief systems and so on.
Its hidden deliberately so as to mislead, why mislead? so that we do not heed the words of God and become swayed and pre-occupied with the entertainment etc which the puppet masters of this world promote as fun, joyous entertainment.
It took me over ten years to break free from spirit harassment, had to get rid of every occult film, books, crosses, the crucifix or crux, is originally an Egyptian symbol, its the swarstika with out the added parts.
So please don’t think this is a personal attack on you, I spend my spare time trying to warn people about these craftily packaged traps which over time seduces it’s prey, before they know it they are totally engulfed. These things can take years, the demons don’t mind how long it takes, just as long as you take the bait and slowly digest it bit by bit.
I will look forward to your new post.

Sorry but you miss quote me, I don’t believe H.P is real, I said that Magic is real. People can bind others with a spell, and the bible condems anyone who practices it. During Jesus time on Earth, they had mass book burnings anyone who wanted to follow Christ had to burn everything associated with magic & sorcery why should we be so naive or make excuses to not see that the same principle applies today?

Thank You So Much for Standing Up for ME, Q! Thank You! You are a Wonderful Christain! I am NOT Worried about RC one bit! RC, is NOT God, He Really Doesn’t Know Much About God, and He Doesn’t know what Love is! I am GLAD that ME and YOU BOTH Know that! FAKE is FAKE and REAL is REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank You! Q, I Work at Disney World but I Also Work at Universal Studios in Orlando too. I am about to go to Work at Halloween Horror Night at Universal Studios Tonight. Their are 8 FUN and AMAZING Haunted House and 2 Halloween Shows. This Year Again they have The Walking Dead Theme! So a Good Bit of the Monsters and Scary People Are Zombies! Lol. At Halloween Horror Nights it’s Zombies Everywhere! Thank Again!

Hi Noelle. Take a deep breath and keep smiling. Feel free to drop me a line sometime and tell me all about your job! (click on my avatar and find my contact link) That sounds like a lot of fun! Take care.

Hey, Nick First of YOU KNOW Nothing about ME, So STOP Acting Like you know ME cause YOU DON’T! Nick, Also STOP Lying because it’s a SIN and it’s WRONG! NONE of My Post on here are Disrespectful or Out of Anger! So STOP ALL That Lying! First of ALL if YOU even Knew ME at ALL then You would Know that I am NOT a Anger Kind of Girl at ALL! I Never get Anger, it takes a whole, whole LOT to get ME Anger! I can HAPPIELY Say that have Never Once get Anger in My Whole Life, So far! Now I have been Mad before but being Mad and being Anger are 2 Different things! Anger leads to Hate, Hate Leads to the Dark Side! Star Wars Quote! Lol! I am Such a Star Wars Nerd! Lol. I ROCK! So NO, NONE of My Post have been Out of Anger! Secound of ALL I Know Way More about God and His Love then Most Christains DO! So When People Like YOU Read My Post ya’ll get Anger and Start Lying because I Speak the TRUTH about God and I Speak about God’s Love! Please Learn about God’s Love! Nick, Also LEAVE My Friend Q ALONE! Know that will get ME MAD at YOU Really Super FAST! Talk about ME ALL You Want to but Leave God, My Family, and My Friends ALONE, Don’t be Talking Bad about Them! So Nick, Leave Q ALONE and I MEAN IT! Now Nick, I Don’t know WHY YOU want to Pray for ME because I Really Don’t Need Prayer! I mean there are Poor Little Kids going Hunger and Dying Every Single Day and there are People Killing People and Much More, So WHY You want to Pray for ME is beyond ME but Whatever Floats your boat! Thanks a! God is Love! And God Bless You!

Hey, Nick First of YOU KNOW Nothing about ME, So STOP Acting Like you know ME cause YOU DON’T! Nick, Also STOP Lying because it’s a SIN and it’s WRONG! NONE of My Post on here are Disrespectful or Out of Anger! So STOP ALL That Lying! First of ALL if YOU even Knew ME at ALL then You would Know that I am NOT a Anger Kind of Girl at ALL! I Never get Anger, it takes a whole, whole LOT to get ME Anger! I can HAPPIELY Say that have Never Once get Anger in My Whole Life, So far! Now I have been Mad before but being Mad and being Anger are 2 Different things! Anger leads to Hate, Hate Leads to the Dark Side! Star Wars Quote! Lol! I am Such a Star Wars Nerd! Lol. I ROCK! So NO, NONE of My Post have been Out of Anger! Secound of ALL I Know Way More about God and His Love then Most Christains DO! So When People Like YOU Read My Post ya’ll get Anger and Start Lying because I Speak the TRUTH about God and I Speak about God’s Love! Please Learn about God’s Love! Nick, Also LEAVE My Friend Q ALONE! Know that will get ME MAD at YOU Really Super FAST! Talk about ME ALL You Want to but Leave God, My Family, and My Friends ALONE, Don’t be Talking Bad about Them! So Nick, Leave Q ALONE and I MEAN IT! Now Nick, I Don’t know WHY YOU want to Pray for ME because I Really Don’t Need Prayer! I mean there are Poor Little Kids going Hunger and Dying Every Single Day and there are People Killing People and Much More, So WHY You want to Pray for ME is beyond ME but Whatever Floats your boat! Thanks a! God is Love! And God Bless You!

As a teenager, are you still of the mindset that you know everything and that dumb Christian adults know nothing? How do you think we come to Christ and surrender to His Truth, that we were born “closed minded”?

When I was a teenager, I sure felt that way. I practiced witchcraft, Christians were dumb as hell. I’m sure this type of movie would have appealed to me. I thought Jesus was a meek little lamb, with no bite to him. He is the Lamb, to be sure, but: “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.” Matthew 10:34 Jesus came to stir things up, to bring dramatic change! He doesn’t want idiots who question nothing, but those who take time to question Him! He wants those that are willing to challenge Him, to actively seek Him! Anya, Jesus loves you with a burning love that you can’t even imagine. He is fiercely jealous for you. If you allow Him, He can make Himself known to you that will blow your mind away.

Think about something: why is there so much hate towards Christians, and mockery of their faith? Why take the time to twist and contort everything the Bible says if there wasn’t some sort of truth to it? You don’t see mockery of Hinduism, or Buddhism, or Islam do you? THINK.

Don’t even try. I know what Jesus did, I’ve been reading the Bible since I was little. In fact, it’s still my favorite book. And I do accept him, with my whole heart and soul.
And the mockery towards Christians, I’m Catholic the original Christian. I get bullied because I don’t take the crap everyone’s trying to shove down my throat!
And you know what else, unlike normal teens, I respects my wlders and want to hear what they have to say, that’s why I even read the article! As for the close mindedness, most people are that way.

Good for you, then. You’re on the right track, but we all need improvement.

As far as your comment as catholics are the original christians, I will disagree with you on that. First were the messianic Jews. Those that were Jew by birth who accepted Christ as their savior. Then the gentile believers who were preached the gospel message. Catholicism didn’t truly get on the ball until Constantine came along and incorporated many pagan themed holidays and merged them with his view of Christian holidays.

I’ve a question for you: Do you take the worship of Mary in Catholicism to be a form of idolatry? Mary is neither a god, or immortal, so why is she sometimes worshipped more than Jesus?

That is where you are wrong. Jews don’t believe Jesus was the Messiah, theson of God. They’re still awaiting the arival of the Messiah.

As for Mary: I can tell you know nothing about Mary. Chatholics DON’T WORSHIP HER! We pray to her like a mother.
Imagine you’re a child. You did something you weren’t supposed to. You go to your mom first, knowing that she’ll do what mothers do. They’ll keep father from over reacting.
Mary is lke thee mother. We pray to her asking her to pray that God will be merciful.

Now a questiion of my own. Why is is that prodestants say “Pray for them” but they diss Mary for praying for them?

Again I SAY YOU are are WRONG. Your a LOST Sheep the Satan has Tricked. Posted another Post and it’s for YOU to read and others as well. First of ALL YOU Don’t Listen at ALL! What I said was RIGHT, So Please Don’t Act DUMB and Like I said it Wrong. Christains CAN’T SAVE Other TRUE, TRUE, TRUE Christains! Fake Christains and True Christains are 2 Different Things. I was Saying True Christains CAN’T SAVE Other TRUE Christains because there Already SAVED! Now I FAKE Christain is NOT Saved because they are FAKE or FALSE Christains. If YOU TRUELY READ the Bible then YOU Know that God was Talking about FAKE or FALSE! God was NO WHERE Talking about TRUE Christain! I knew that but SADlY YOU Didn’t! Please Go Read Your Bible Again. Also Again Say Please, Please Learn then Meaning between Fake and Real or Fake and True because it’s CLEAR YOU Don’t Know the Differents! Venice, YOU DON’T Listen at ALL! First of I Said and I QUOTE LOUD, Most Mormons are FAKE and they have a Whole Lot of things WRONG but a few mormons are Good and True Christains! The Girl WHO Wrote Twilight is a Mormon but She is a Good and TRUE Christain! My 3 Friends are Mormon but they are Good and True Christains! So HOW DARE YOU, HOW DARE YOU! Don’t TRY to PLAY God because Your NOT God! and I am NOT SURE that YOU Even Know God. YOU Might be a Lost Sheep or YOU Might be a Fake Christain! Do YOU think Jesus would Watch Twilight and Harry Potter ( YES or NO )??????????? The Answer is YES! Jesus Would Watch Twilight and Harry Potter! Two Christain Girls Wrote Twilight and HP, So Jesus would Watch Them BOTH because HE Loves Everyone and He Loves True Christains because they are His Family! Next thing YOU. Keep Saying the Magic in HP is Bad and Evil! I will Say this ONE Last Time the Magic in HP is ALL FAKE and NOT REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL the Magic in HP is FAKE Hollywood Magic. I am So SORRY if YOU are to Child Like to Understand that the Magic in HP is FAKE! FYI, Santa Claws is FAKE Too, Just to Let YOU Know! I am Sorry if YOUR Mom or Dad Never Told YOU that Movies and Tv Shows Are NOT REAL and Magic is NOT REAL. Since YOU think the Magic in HP is Real then I bet YOU Think Dogs can Talk if YOU have Since Scooby Doo. NO, the Magic in HP is NOT REAL, so Please Get that Through Your Head! Unless YOU know of Any Flying Cars, Big as Castle Snakes, or Gaint Talking Spiders then I’ll believe YOU about HP but Until then YOU are WRONG! FAKE is FAKE and REAL is REAL! Jesus is Againist Real Witches NOT FAKE ONES because Key Word ”FAKE”! Jesus Cares about REAL Dogs NOT FAKE Talking Dogs! If YOU Don’t Know that then YOU Don’t KNOW God! So YES, Jesus would Watch Twilight and HP because those Movies are BOTH FAKE! Jesus Knows that and I Know that and It seems Your the Only One that Doesn’t know that! First of ALL if YOU Read the Bible then YOU Would Know How Jesus Real is and the Kind of People Jesus Hang Out with! It’s SAD but if Jesus was on Earth Again at this time, Christains Like You and Others Like YOU would want Nothing to do with Him because ya’ll wouldn’t believe Him because of the People Hang Out with of the Places and stuff He watched. If YOU READ The Bible then YOU Know the People WHO Killed Jesus are. They Killed Jesus because they Didn’t Believe Jesus was the Son of God and WHY Didn’t they Believe Him? If YOU Read the Bible then YOU Know WHY! Jesus Hang Out and Talked with Sinners. Jesus Talked to Hookers, Lairs, Stealers, None God Believers and Sick People! Since Jesus Hang Out with those People, Men WHO thought they were So HOLY Looked Down on Jesus and Thought Jesus was Lying because They Thouhgt a Son of God wouldn’t Hang Out with People Like those! So ASK Yourself if Jesus was on the Earth NOW and He was Hanging Out with Sinners and Seeing Movies that YOU Calm are Evil and a Sin, Would YOU Look Down on Jesus and Say He is NOT God because YOU Don’t Understand WHY Jesus the Son of God Hang Out People YOU Don’t Aprove of or Movies and Shows YOU Don’t aprove of! I Don’t Watch to Many Christain Movies or Tv Shows because Most Christain Movies and Tv Shows get things Wrong and they Just Don’t Know God and Jesus. but I Love two 2 Movies! Ones Called The Perfert Starnger and the 2nd is Called Another Perfect Starnger. Please GO Watch the Movie Another Perfect Starnger because that Movie Shows What and How Jesus is Really and Truely is Like! Watch Another Perfect Starnger then Message ME back. YOU Don’t Want to or Need to be Like One of those People in the Bible, WHO Made Fun of and Killed Jesus, ALL because They Didn’t Aprove of HOW Jesus was Acting. God is Love!

Noelle, you realize that Mormons don’t believe that Jesus was God in the flesh, right? So understanding that, how can your three Mormon friends be good Christians? Do you have any idea what Mormon doctrine is? They deny that Christ is the incarnate Word of God..certainly the Bible teaches that, right? Or, like others who disagree with you, am I simply “WRONG” ?

Anyway Noelle, God loves you, but he wants all of you. He wants us to be fully and wholly committed to him. That means more time spent in prayer, reading his Word, fellowshiping with believers, and gloryfying him in everything that we do. At the very absolute minimum, I think if you are honest with yourself, you will agree that these shows and movies don’t strengthen your relationship with God. That means that they are unprofitable. However, I am very convinced that they hurt our spiritual lives. If you think about it, we are called to focus on eternal and spiritual things. Not only do these movies and TV shows take our focus off of spiritual things and place it in the world, but they go one step further and drag us into a fantasy world. Focusing on fictional things is even WORSE than focusing on worldly things as far as I am concerned. It puts an extra step between us and God. Noelle, God wants a relationship with you. That is accomplished through praying to him and reading his Word. How much is enough? Is 10 or 20 minutes a day enough? How would someone really close to you, for example, a husband or your mother, feel if you only spent 10-20 minutes with them a day? Or, sadly, like many Christians, zero minutes…would this strengthen and nurture your relationship? God is calling you AWAY from these worldly distractions. They are unprofitable and damaging to our relationship with God. God sees mainstream movies and TV shows as idols and a complete waste of time. Please, Noelle, ask yourself, do you truly believe what you say about these shows? Or are you just trying to justify your own fleshly desires by rambling on and on? God wants you to grow closer and closer to him, Noelle…please seriously think about it. I’ll pray for you tonight.

Well, well Nick it Looks Like I just Found a Secound POST by YOU! OH, My, My! Again I Say to YOU, Nick ”STOP Acting and Pretending that YOU Know ME! Nick, DO YOU Live in Some Kind of Fantsy Land or World where YOU think YOU know ME! NICK, FYI and FYI God has ALL of ME, Thank You Very Much! I am Christain! I am a 100% TRUE Christain! Are YOU a Christain??????????????? If YOU are a Christain then use the Brain God gave YOU, Please! I am a Christain, I am NOT. One of the Lost! YOU can’t Save Someone WHO Already has God! It’s SAD Really, I know More about God then it seems You DO! God Does NOT Care about FAKE and NOT REAL Things! I am So SORRY if YOU Don’t Know That or Understand That! NICK, STOP Telling People to Pray for ME because that’s Just WEIRD and Wrong! Because My Life is Good, I have God and Jesus! There Kids Dying and People being Killed and Raped and Nick, Your Asking People to Pray for ME! I am going to Pray for YOU because YOU Need God Big Time! FYI Nick, I SHOW God’s Love in Everything I DO and I DO that Every Single! I SHOW and I TELL of God’s Love in Everything I DO ”God’s Light SHINES Through ME”, I go to Church, I Read My Bible Every Single Day, I Pray Morning, Noon, and Night ”So I Pray EveryDay and EveryNight”, and I have a Relationship with God and Jesus! So NICK, What were YOU Saying about ME and Saying to ME???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nick, YOU were So WRONG in Everything YOU said! Get to Know Someone before YOU Start Talking about them! The New Harry Potter World Opens UP at Universal Studios in Summer Time 2014! Nick, I Welcome YOU to come cheeck it Out or Don’t come See it! I get Paid weither YOU come or NOT! I Work at Both Universal Studios and Disney World! For. The Grand Opening of the New Harry Potter World, I Know God’s going to be there and I am going to be there! I know God’s going to be there because God is Everywhere, Plus I have God in My Heart So God is with ME Where Ever I GO!