Im saying I could shoot the open class,distance wise. But its not exactly fair that one person has lenses and such that they see exactly where they are aiming,because they are essentially looking at the rings and able to line up there pin exactly. Where is someome with just a hunting rig is shooting with no lenses,and guessing about where the 11 ring is because they arent looking at a magnified version of the rings

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A scope is an advantage in seeing "some" detail on the target, but on most targets unless they are very close you cannot actually see the 12 rings. In low lighting conditions a lot of times you cannot see any of scoring rings when looking thru a magnified lens. Also there are trade offs to shooting a lens. You can see more detail but less light gets to your eye. Also when you go up in magnification (2x, 4x, 6x, etc.) the perceived movement is much greater than with no magnification.

Are you not allowed to play through in 3d archery?, thats common courtesy in golf if someone in behind a slower group. I have to agree its in decline from what I saw on two shoots this weekend, not near the #'s there used to be. Very few shooters.

If there are open targets ahead and our group is slow we always offer the group behind to go thru. At some of our ASA events there is simply no place to go as most or all the targets are occupied.

We had an ASA event this past Memorial Day weekend at Archer's for Christ in Paris that had 279 shooters.

If there are open targets ahead and our group is slow we always offer the group behind to go thru. At some of our ASA events there is simply no place to go as most or all the targets are occupied.

We had an ASA event this past Memorial Day weekend at Archer's for Christ in Paris that had 279 shooters.

Good info to know arrowsmith. Ive never shot a lense,so not sure what exactly it dose. Just the basics of,that it magnify by the power lense that you are shooting. Ive yet to shoot ASA events,just shop shoots and the R100. Want to,just being a full time student and full time worker,its hard to find time for the big events the ASA draws

I shoot my hunting bow in the womens hunter class,but shoot a lighter arrow than I use hunting. While I probably could shoot the open class,im comfortable out to 60 on targets with this bow. Just dosent seam fair when Im shooting open sights peep,and others are essentially looking through binos on there sights,at the exact scoreing rings.
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It isn't fair, that is why they have different classes of competition. If you shoot open class with your rig you you are putting yourself at a disadvantage by not using all the available equipment.

If you want to shoot open, shoot open, but since no one if FORCING you to shoot open class fair has nothing to do with it.

This is like a finger shooter saying he could shoot Male Bowhunter Release class if only everyone else shot with fingers; but it's not fair because they use a release...

Bear, if you ever have time to look into ASA and attend any of the shoots, I think you’ll be surprised at what you find. You’ll probably enjoy it, too. I shot Women’s Hunter until last year. 30 yard/260fps max, fixed pins. I moved up after winning SOY and the state championship. This year I tried Women’s Hunter Elite, which is another fixed pin class but with 40 yard/280fps max. I shot one qualifier in WHE, and then switched to a beginner’s open class, Women’s Known 40. Yes, I can now use an adjustable sight, a lens, and longer bars, but don’t think for a minute that it’s ‘easier.’ Up until about two weeks ago, my scores with my hunting bow at 40 yards beat my scores with my open bow. If you get the chance, try using what you have in K40 or K45. Shoot for fun if you want to, but compare your shooting to that of the people finishing near the top of the class. Or shoot Women’s Hunter Elite, where you’ll be on a more even playing field.

Bear, if you ever have time to look into ASA and attend any of the shoots, I think youíll be surprised at what you find. Youíll probably enjoy it, too. I shot Womenís Hunter until last year. 30 yard/260fps max, fixed pins. I moved up after winning SOY and the state championship. This year I tried Womenís Hunter Elite, which is another fixed pin class but with 40 yard/280fps max. I shot one qualifier in WHE, and then switched to a beginnerís open class, Womenís Known 40. Yes, I can now use an adjustable sight, a lens, and longer bars, but donít think for a minute that itís Ďeasier.í Up until about two weeks ago, my scores with my hunting bow at 40 yards beat my scores with my open bow. If you get the chance, try using what you have in K40 or K45. Shoot for fun if you want to, but compare your shooting to that of the people finishing near the top of the class. Or shoot Womenís Hunter Elite, where youíll be on a more even playing field.

I will definitely look in to that and see what is avalible around here and out towards where Im moving next fall. Thanks for the information Camoquest