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Got to say a few words of thanks to Jorgen of Sportkitedesign, Steve of GWTW and Carlo of Icky TV for the donation of prizes (which i will draw for in the next couple of days...) and to Thomas - www.4liners.dk for allowing the videos to be hosted in his online space.

WD you'd win the tricks per minute category i'm sure, should there have been such.

and i see maths have conspired once more to place the always excellent, amazingly consistent bryan beasley in fifth spot. surely the sun would not rise, the tides not sway, and reason fail us all were this not the case.

thank you yan for keeping VF going, and thank you all for the great videos to watch.

This VF drives me crazy... there are 20 different threads in 10 different forums, us, uk, france and NONE, I say NONE gives the main web site where we can actually watch all the videos...

You talk about something, or promote it, at least give CLEARLY the main website instead of giving direct link to word document or zip files If I go to the parent directory /www.kitebox.net/ I see nothing.I don't know that seems like a evidence to me but not to all the people who post about VF.

This VF drives me crazy... there are 20 different threads in 10 different forums, us, uk, france and NONE, I say NONE gives the main web site where we can actually watch all the videos...

You talk about something, or promote it, at least give CLEARLY the main website instead of giving direct link to word document or zip files If I go to the parent directory /www.kitebox.net/ I see nothing.I don't know that seems like a evidence to me but not to all the people who post about VF.

Main website is here http://www.virtualfreestyle.net/ . As far as hosting videos for streaming I doubt thats ever going to happen. THis competition is done mostly by people volunteering their time and resources with the help of a few sponsors. Right now getting the videos by downloading the zip file is the only way to see them all but some of the entrants post them on you tube or vimeo as well.

Lol, I see what you're doing here... now if it works Bryan will get a mug next round and well I.... well, lets just say, for the foreseeable future I'm going to have an easier time finding a scotch glass in my cupboard come breaky time

Thanks for the offer Ca Ike, a tempting offer for sure, but I'm sticking to my guns, it'll be MY cup or NONE!

You talk about something, or promote it, at least give CLEARLY the main website

So it's on the poster for VF18, it's been on the videos I made for earlier rounds, hell even if it wasn't it's the first search result in both Google and Bing. Is it too much to ask for a little smidgen of self-help if it isn't served up for you on a plate ? Would you like me to fly the kite for you too ?

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If I go to the parent directory /www.kitebox.net/ I see nothing.

Yeah. That's the video hosting site's URL. The event's called Virtual Freestyle and not Kite Box. I personally would regard this as a clue of sorts.

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I don't know that seems like a evidence to me but not to all the people who post about VF.

I have simply no idea what this collection of words is meant to convey.

This VF drives me crazy... there are 20 different threads in 10 different forums, us, uk, france and NONE, I say NONE gives the main web site where we can actually watch all the videos...

You talk about something, or promote it, at least give CLEARLY the main website instead of giving direct link to word document or zip files If I go to the parent directory /www.kitebox.net/ I see nothing.I don't know that seems like a evidence to me but not to all the people who post about VF.

Hey Bojo,

Don't worry it drives all of us crazy (although I'm only speaking for myself), VF is loose, and it always generates discussion as to the use of it's so called 'rules', all of these discussions peter (an old US mining slang to mean to come to nothing) out as a new round looms. Then we do it all over again

Bojo, look at it this way, if you're getting this 'passionate' about it just trying to find it, just wait till you're in it and participating , that there will freak you out (well maybe not but I just love using that phrase )

And remember, VF is all about the mug, and if you don't win a mug they sometimes try and make you feel better by letting you win a kite. Yeah, I know, it's no mug, but I look at it as being 'better than nothing"

First of all, have some respect, english is not my mother tongue so ok I make some mistake, I'm sorry.

I've seen virtualfreestyle.net/ of course but there is no videos or link to the vids of the last VF, it stopped at VF16 (no 17 and 18).That's why I said this is confusing. I guess the vids are only for the participants to see (those who judge if I understood correctly).

Is my english clear enough for you this time or do you need more explanation "served up for you on a plate" to quote you (I mean no disrespect of course) ?

You talk about something, or promote it, at least give CLEARLY the main website

So it's on the poster for VF18, it's been on the videos I made for earlier rounds, hell even if it wasn't it's the first search result in both Google and Bing. Is it too much to ask for a little smidgen of self-help if it isn't served up for you on a plate ? Would you like me to fly the kite for you too ?

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If I go to the parent directory /www.kitebox.net/ I see nothing.

Yeah. That's the video hosting site's URL. The event's called Virtual Freestyle and not Kite Box. I personally would regard this as a clue of sorts.

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I don't know that seems like a evidence to me but not to all the people who post about VF.

I have simply no idea what this collection of words is meant to convey.

First of all, have some respect, english is not my mother tongue so ok I make some mistake, I'm sorry.

I've seen virtualfreestyle.net/ of course but there is no videos or link to the vids of the last VF, it stopped at VF16 (no 17 and 18).That's why I said this is confusing. I guess the vids are only for the participants to see (those who judge if I understood correctly).

Is my english clear enough for you this time or do you need more explanation "served up for you on a plate" to quote you (I mean no disrespect of course) ?

WEll the first part was obvious to anyone paying attention. As for the videos on the main site, Yan (and Mike?)is, or was, trying to get an archive going of past VF rounds and the current will be added as time and hosting space allows I'm sure. Yan posts a link in the main forum to download the current rounds entries within a day of sending them out to us participants for judging so anyone that wants to can get them to watch. This was started by kiters, for kiters and is run by kiters mostly in their spare time, as I understand it, with whatever help is donated.

I've seen virtualfreestyle.net/ of course but there is no videos or link to the vids of the last VF, it stopped at VF16 (no 17 and 18).

F5. There are links on the main page to individual rounds 17 and 18. The one for 18, just passed, has a link to a file with all the videos.

I note the continuing existence of this piece of prose on the front page:-

Discussion about all things VF normally takes place on the Fractured Axel forum and an even more prominent link to the relevant FA section on the left of the page.

Having all of the videos in one, simple to download ZIP file is a brilliant idea* 'cos it simplifies getting hold of them all to peruse at your leisure, which can be quite important when there are 33 videos to look over such as happened in round 13.

Yeah, it drives me crazy too.... the trouble is that it is a global competition and local people use local forums to discuss their experiances of it.... hence many threads....

I consider the VF section of Fractured Axel to be the main place for posting information and it is generally the most up to date. I try to keep GWTW (and now the facebook group) up to date as well, but as for forums in other languages, I'm afraid my knowledge of other languages is not as good as yours!

Another thing to consider is that VF is essentially very simple, and there is not a lot of 'need to know' information or rules.

VF is open to all and entry from yourself would be most welcome, contact me at virtualfreestyle[at]gmail.com and I'll make sure you have all the inforamtion you need.

Oh, and apart from the mugs, there are also special straps (wrist and finger) made with the the round number on them... another must have prize from GWTW.

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