Ierrellus wrote:So far, I've been able to go 13 weeks without alcohol and 9 weeks without tobacco. I've accomplished this after over 50 years of smoking heavily and drinking at least a quart of beer a day. I attribute my success on these matters to good meds (I suffer from major depression) and good, cognitive therapy. I did not just pull myself up by my own bootstraps. I simply said enough is enough and am trying to stick to it despite my spells of depression. So it's not all bad out here in therapy land.

Congrats on your hard work paying off. I am glad to hear that psychotherapy has been helpful to you.

Knowing what you know 9 months later, what do you think should be the key focus for an industry trying to help others in similar situations?

Thanks, Captain. I'm no role model for anyone, just lucky at ridding myself of some toxic addictions. I'm still an addict by nature and am still mentally ill. About the depression, meds and good counseling can help, but cannot totally erase the deleterious effects of genetics and society. About the addictions, I thought long and hard about how I would like to live the last years of my life. I'm 74. I could not have given up these addictions at 50.

"We must love one another or die." W.H.AudenI admit I'm an asshole. Now, can we get back to the conversation?From the mad poet of McKinley Ave.

Ierrellus wrote:Thanks, Captain. I'm no role model for anyone, just lucky at ridding myself of some toxic addictions. I'm still an addict by nature and am still mentally ill. About the depression, meds and good counseling can help, but cannot totally erase the deleterious effects of genetics and society. About the addictions, I thought long and hard about how I would like to live the last years of my life. I'm 74. I could not have given up these addictions at 50.

I did drug counseling for a few years. It's tough work watching people fail so often. I learned to measure success not by lack of relapses in my clients but instead in how long they stayed clean. And also that even if many fail to stay clean this time that they can remember what they learned and try again.

Earlier detection and prevention of full blown, untreated mental illness by way of offering healthier alternatives earlier in life. Many people with mental illness self-medicate with all sorts addictions to "stabilize" themselves, but once you live an unbalanced life for so long, do you even understand what moderation is any more?

I AM OFFICIALLY IN HELL!

I live my philosophy, it's personal to me and people who engage where I live establish an unspoken dynamic, a relationship of sorts, with me and my philosophy.

Cutting folks for sport is a reality for the poor in spirit. I myself only cut the poor in spirit on Tues., Thurs., and every other Sat.

WendyDarling wrote:Earlier detection and prevention of full blown, untreated mental illness by way of offering healthier alternatives earlier in life. Many people with mental illness self-medicate with all sorts addictions to "stabilize" themselves, but once you live an unbalanced life for so long, do you even understand what moderation is any more?

Generally , it may be safe to say that most mentAl illnesses, have their roots in early development , and cognitive dissidents is at the root. Onset usually is at adolescence or the next stage-young adulthood because reality becomes manifest as an autonomy.

Very early childhood mentAl illness is the outcome of the insucessful resolution of basic trust

Meno_ wrote:Generally , it may be safe to say that most mentAl illnesses, have their roots in early development , and cognitive dissidents is at the root. Onset usually is at adolescence or the next stage-young adulthood because reality becomes manifest as an autonomy.

Very early childhood mentAl illness is the outcome of the insucessful resolution of basic trust

So it's all psychosomatic?

I AM OFFICIALLY IN HELL!

I live my philosophy, it's personal to me and people who engage where I live establish an unspoken dynamic, a relationship of sorts, with me and my philosophy.

Cutting folks for sport is a reality for the poor in spirit. I myself only cut the poor in spirit on Tues., Thurs., and every other Sat.

Not as a sole contributing factor, nope. You be wrong. Intense emotional issues simply exacerbate the genetic baseline's deficiencies spotlighting those deficiencies earlier in perceptive children who do recognize the dishonest nature of adult interactions with them.<---in a nutshell.

I AM OFFICIALLY IN HELL!

I live my philosophy, it's personal to me and people who engage where I live establish an unspoken dynamic, a relationship of sorts, with me and my philosophy.

Cutting folks for sport is a reality for the poor in spirit. I myself only cut the poor in spirit on Tues., Thurs., and every other Sat.

So, as I was saying there:Time for the "analysts" to explore nonlinear writings like mine, and drop their "statistical" "proofs" of recycled, uninspired, and frankly ludicrous theories... and their coffee/tobacco/alcohol...(feel free to pick up a pure weed joint*, though)...

* Wendy darling, what do they think of weed in Hades (I've been fascinated by Hades for a while)?

And post your results... I'm a "diplomat", by the way...I'm an exception here, most people who hang out in online forums are "analysts" addicted to debate for its own sake... i for one mostly dislike debating, i'm a serial monologuist who visits because I have something unique, important to say...

MagsJ, regardless of any test results, you are very far from anything associated with "architect".

Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic HarmonyElseFrom THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is"..

James S Saint wrote:MagsJ, regardless of any test results, you are very far from anything associated with "architect".

Then do tell what (you think) I am?

There are rules against that.

I was just noting what you are NOT.

Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic HarmonyElseFrom THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is"..

Wendy Darling, Good advice, yeah the analytic-dominated print world will misunderstand me and take offense, but I still tend to come across naturally, just as I always have... due to force of habit (or personality).

As long as the few like you understand, I really haven't cared much if most do not, but that's just laziness, only starting to work on delivery, not easy for someone as nonlinear as me...

Heartstrings are binding... I think i get it... I'm OK as long as you're optimally free.Can't just have a mental image of a damsel in distress without finding out more, you know...

Fall in love without much (if any) provocation... Just thinking of a Sophia-like figure makes me literally (and biochemically) more of a "philosopher" (Philo-sophia... hah!)

Maybe we meet when i come to Eastern Europe next month...

Anyway...

I advocate a philosophically consummated Ra (a stable Third Sun), the upholder of objective logic with a global mandate... king of all 3 realms (heaven, hell, earth), not necessarily the typical 2-pronged one (king of heaven and earth)...

Dunno why Triarii says "Kneel down for me", "New world order"... etc., I don't agree. Possibly because the Third Sun went kaput long ago, now staffed by weak and ill-advised Sun-Black Sun coalitions (as in the pope-antipope bloc in Italy)...

As for historic Rome...I find some of its syndromes (specifically war and bipolaristic power (leading to ultimately meaningless and impotent tendencies as in Mussolinite fascism)) as unsettling as you...

Rome was no Third Sun Empire, though one of the later emperors (or was it a key General?) did "worship" a concept of 3 suns (read about that long back didn't realize the importance of it, then... sadly forgot his name... can anyone help with this?)

MagsJ is certainly an architect in the sense of moderation - she knows how things fall into place.

Architecture isn't as simple as you think it is, James - my point all along.

Mental illness ... always a condition of society, or of family or of whatever type of irrational resistances to power a human environment has. Mental illness does not occur in the wild. Rather, it is a beings escape into the wild from the insane conditions of humanity.