French Train Hero Tries To Protect Woman And She Leaves After He Gets Stabbed

David is a lifelong dissident and intellectual rebel. He despises political correctness, which replaces real, needy victims with narcissistic leftists out for a free meal. Though still a young man, he has watched society descend into its present morass with great sadness, combined with a determination to help make things better. He tweets when there's something worth tweeting here.

In August, American soldier Spencer Stone was amongst those who halted a purported Islamic fundamentalist’s attempt at a killing spree on a crowded French train. For his valiant efforts, he received the Legion of Honor from President François Hollande. Fast-forward mere weeks and Stone has now been stabbed in Sacramento, California after trying to help a woman he thought was being attacked by her boyfriend. In return, the hero suffered multiple stab wounds at the hands of other men, injuries he is yet to recover from in hospital.

The woman thanked Stone’s intervention by promptly escaping with his suspected attackers. In a move which should not surprise any person with a red pill even still stuck on their tongue, the female cozied up again with the same man Stone allegedly saw punch her. The lesson? By now, you should be able to tell it yourself: you can risk life and limb for a woman and she nonetheless goes back to the person she wanted all manner of assistance against only moments before. The fate of the poor sucker who desperately and bravely tries to help is immaterial to her.

White knights come in all shades

I’m sure Spencer is a great dude but if he keeps trying to save the world he’ll soon be departing from it. Repeated heroes usually end up dying.

Spencer Stone is not the sort of white knight I am going to ridicule like the regular variety. Truth be told, he probably does not and will never regret intervening to help the woman. The real difficulty, though, is making so many men comprehend their literal dispensability in the eyes of a gargantuan percentage of the female population.

Many women themselves do not realize this consciously, basically because they have never had to be “saved” by another man in a violent situation. There are hints, however, that creep out in daily life. It’s your responsibility to find them and act accordingly.

The flakiness and duplicity of women is well-known. Stone should consider himself a victim of one of the more dramatic examples of this behavior. The girl you made out with passionately on the dance floor becomes the girl ignoring you the next day. People talk about “tight game” and other methodologies as a panacea to this, as if it offers some sort of bona fide daily life insurance for any male user.

Try telling that to professional asshole and supposed alpha Sean Penn, who found his texts and calls suddenly ignored by Charlize Theron, or any man drawn from a litany of sex symbol celebrities who is left to the wolves by a previously “devoted” female.

Game and other honed skills will improve your odds and numbers, sometimes drastically so, but they will not make you immune to all the vagaries of women. Nor will being a burly, strapping young man (and actual hero) who comes to a girl’s physical rescue. Irrespective of whether you’re not expecting or even thinking about romance, you will regularly be bitterly disappointed if you anticipate an iota of genuine gratitude from her. Unless someone is in mortal danger (and here, too, it’s often dumb to get involved), is intervening to help a woman really worth the effort?

Be careful of your paradigm, white knights

Just as the white knight can imagine he has armor and a steed, he can also imagine or embellish the reasons for him saving a woman.

A number of the news stories about the Sacramento stabbing have pointed to a two-way physical exchange between the woman in question and the man who punched her. Of course, any man who punches a woman in public is stupidly stoking one hell of a fire. She could have hit you with a baseball bat from behind and you’re still seen as the aggressor.

Stone’s miscalculation seems to have been ignoring the woman’s participation in the physicality. This is significant, as a mental omission of her actions, like with many intervening men, most likely explains why he got between them.

Paradigms such as these shine a light on countless behavioral permutations in terms of not only white knights but how we usually define victims and aggressors. Men will not flinch to intervene to help a woman of the same general size as the male apparently attacking her, but may just look on when a refrigerator of a man attacks a proverbial male Hobbit outside a nightclub.

Likewise, violent or very suspect actions by a woman are deemed irrelevant for the purposes of a man deciding whether to “save” her. The problem exists on a continuum, so even we who see ourselves as inoculated against cultural lies need to be constantly reassessing our underlying presumptions.

Helping most women (or people in general) is a waste of time

Who do you really risk yourself for?

Save the vast majority of your charitable or Good Samaritan acts for actual charity cases: maybe the elderly, the disabled, or the casualties of auto accidents. Or, like Stone’s first act of bravery, stopping terrorists who stand right in front of you. You might opt for being the budding hero of a woman, only to find yourself dead, in a wheelchair, beaten up or otherwise all the worse for intervening, whether physically, socially, professionally or financially.

Sadly, chances are that something detrimental like this will happen very quickly. You’ll get more of a celebration amongst women by being aggressively violent, rather than aggressively defending someone else, including women themselves.

Risk yourself for a principle that you want to see live on after you’re gone (preferably in 50+ years). Never risk yourself for a woman likely to spite you in spite of all your attempts to protect her.

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235 Responses

Is not a white knight that we know of. He seems to have a strong protect-others personality. Had the attackers been attacking a man, I strongly suspect, based on his history on the French train, that he would have tried to help every bit as much. Some people are wired like that, we used to make them real knights and real warriors, not mock and ridicule them. In the future I suspect you’ll hear about him saving a man in a tight spot, again like he did with many men (and women) on that French train. I admire that kind of selfless duty to protect others, and it would be nice to see a rise of this kind of man again in our culture. His kind has practically been bred and shamed out of existence, the actual old school honorable warrior. Yes, he tried to save a woman, and he didn’t “take into account” actions which he *may well have not seen* on her part. We have no way of knowing. But again, if it were a small dude being beaten down, I suspect he would have jumped in with both feet to help him too.

As to how the woman acted, agreed, zero surprise. THAT should be the message to *real* white knights. But they won’t listen, the sound of “I might get pussy if I just sacrifice more for women” is deafening in their ears.

Right…he has a sheepdog mentality to protect the herd. Cops, soldiers, EMS, ER docs have this way of thinking and attract these type of folks. I guarantee the fems deride this behavior as “quaint” or as “toxic masculinity”…

Beat me to it! Reading this article, I definitely thought of the sheepdog mentality, not white knight. I reserve the title of White Knight to those that interject themselves on frivolous matters (think internet arguments) in the hopes of getting female adoration. This clearly was not the case in this instance.

To hell with hopes of getting female adoration and approval. You seek admiration, recognition, and respect from fellow men and form a brotherhood where we watch out for one another. Only men appreciate what men do for others.

All is not lost, there is a subgroup of women who are really drawn to men in those fields. There is a website militarycupid.com that i put a profile on just for kicks(I’m not military). Alot of southern charm and hot country girls saying there is just something about a man willing to lay down his life for their country.

Plus that whole “die for my country” stuff screams beta provider chump. Women can smell a man that will work 50 hours to pay for her weekly hairdo and handbag. Women are sexually drawn to narcissistic men that look out for themselves first. They arent looking for alphas on the internet.

Yep. I live in a military town (southern) and you can bet it’s more of the provider thing. Most of these “navy wives” have a good thing going (especially the officer’s wives). The husband is out on deployment half of their career (or at least some of it) and the check keeps coming in to their bank account. I’ve heard quite a few of them “gleefully” announce it (plus they’re only working some part time job that is pocket money).

Be advised all of you young men seeking the military route that many of these women will see you as steady income – that’s about it.

The real downside to all of this shit was the divorce that followed (when military men returned home). A couple of buddies found out when they got back how their wives fucked around on them. They find out that they married a whore after they married…and then there are the kids (it’s fucked up).

Yes, the slutty ones. The ones you guys swoon over, looking at their tits and asses and nothing else.
Perhaps when men learn how to correctly choose a wife, a life partner, a reliable other-half, a normal human being and a woman who is exactly what a woman should be, and not just a doll with orifices to be penetrated and nothing else, perhaps then these divorces, ass rapes in court and all this male abuse by awful women will stop. Until then, enjoy your ‘hot pussies’ and keep paying through your noses.

Sorry man! I’m just a ‘dudette’ who’s trying to pick up men’s brains so to speak, and I’ve read ONLY such stories on this website- ALL men who’ve had serious troubles in their relationships have had it because of shitty, slutty women/girls. Why on earth don’t they give the time of the day to other kinds of women, instead of wasting their time on hoes?
Sorry ’bout my ‘angry’ tone again….it does sometimes piss me off.
Then, women like myself, who want a normal family and a normal husband will naturally wonder ‘where are all the good men’…they’re on MGTOW I suppose.

Is there a problem with a wife seeking the financial security and family environment nurturing generated by her husband’s income? If the husband is away for long stints and she stays back, caring for the home and the children, like any wife is supposed to, shouldn’t she avail of the financial resources produced by her husband? Isn’t this the traditional way in which a traditional family is run, according to logic, tradition AND coincidentally, most men here on ROK?
If a woman marries a man and expects him to provide- she’s a gold digger.
If she has an education and works to supplement her family’s income- she’s a nazi, a ball buster, she’s masculine and is undermining her husband’s authority.
If she doesn’t work but takes care of the home and children- she’s just seeking a cushy life not doing anything.
If she works, relies on a nanny or a kindergarten for her young children- beware of feminazis who work, who are bitchy and feel like they have their husbands’ balls in their palms.
So which one is it, guys? It’s getting a bit confusing. Please enlighten me.

Your an idiot that’s the whole point there is no perfect woman or wife in life. The issue is who has the upper hand in the relationship you or her? If it’s her your fucked if it’s you then great. You only live once and it’s a war out there claiming that people need to find better women is a fools errand. A girl will mask her personality to your desires and you won’t be able to see it till it’s too late like ugh at marriage or divorce time.

I’ve definitely seen that trait, and need to be a part of a ‘don’t mess with me or you mess with my homies’ attitude prevalent in cops. Nevertheless, this story from Ireland resembles the one above to a tee. Girl with ‘dark triad bad boi'(tm) eventually runs to cops to make domestic abuse claim. Leads cop to house. Bad boi starts shooting. Cop lays down his life to protect girl who perhaps should have informed cop that tingle-generating bad boi is armed to the teeth. She was critical condition, 3 days ago. Cop & badboi dead. http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/gardakiller-had-pistol-and-700-rounds-of-ammo-for-bigger-attack-31614134.html

Pretty much. I’ve tried explaining this to the patriotards, but to no avail. Might as well reason with a brick instead. At least the brick doesn’t pretend to protect my freedom. Case in point, when I bring up the red herring of military blaming politicians for not protecting the constitution, instead of them actually taking action against said politician for not defending our freedom they shut down and blame politicians. It’s always the blame game with those assholes.

I like this a lot. I feel it is a sad referendum, however, on the state of the news, that despite the french train story being ostensibly uplifting and inspiring, I can’t help but think that there is something more at play that’s being covered up, hidden, ignored or just phased out to make for a better story.

It is sad that I have become so cynical that I hear about a hero like this and instantly think “what happened here” or I hear that a girl was raped and I immediately roll my eyes and think “sure she was.”

It is sad that I have become so cynical that I hear about a hero like
this and instantly think “what happened here” or I hear that a girl was
raped and I immediately roll my eyes and think “sure she was.”

I’m right there with you. Even express the words “Need evidence before I’ll believe” usually. It spurs a lot of interesting discussions with other men actually when that happens.

My cynicism sensors went off at “Two way” physical exchange involving a man and woman. That can ONLY mean that the bitch thought she had carte blanche to maim some guy all she wanted (and these cunts are getting big, no more adorable chest slaps from 110 pound waifs) until he finally was forced to defend himself. When a guy taking a painful beating from a 180 pound modern female finally has had enough and fights back, that’s like catnip for beta males. They just CONVERGE at that point, with flying fists and eager cocks.

If it were any other type of exchange it would have been painted as ‘violence against women’. A drunk slut thought she was a first class citizen (she was correct) and that gives her the right to beat down a second class citizen (male). Once again, she was right. But the mistake was that she chose a non-white millenial who would have some dying embers of masculinity in his upbringing somewhere. I would be shocked if this episode had no element of female on male simple assault or beta-male, heroic overreaction.

Stone appears to live by an archaic warrior code — yet this situation still played out like the cynical White Knight scenario we warn about in the manosphere. Stone may be admirable, but the warning against aiding women is still completely valid.

This man is a true hero not doubt. However, he needs to (and I hope has) learn discretion about when to step in.

There is a basic rule that most men know instinctively. Never come between a man and his woman. Never. You will not win.

I have seen this play out and its always bad. Saw a guy beating his woman. A friend of mine tried to step in. He got beat by both the man and the woman. Her anger at being beaten by her man was superseded by her anger at seeing another man beat her man.

We need to keep in mind that some women either think they deserve to be smacked by their man or even (in some cases) desire it.

If you want to take down a terrorist nutjob, I’ll be with you side by side. You want to sort out a domestic? You’re on your own. I’ll take my chances with the terrorists.

I agree with this statement. men like Mr. Spencer ( a true hero) need to assess and adapt, after all, we live in a femcentric world–things are not always as they seem. In theory, it is noble and righteous to help any human being in matters of distress, just have to pick and choose your battles…wisely.

Have to agree with you on this one. You never know what’s going on with that domestic situation. I, too, have seen many of these situations and you find out (after the fact) that the woman was a nut job…a flake.

Maybe it’s a good lesson for the man in this situation. Terrorist…jump in and fight. Man and woman fighting….stand back and watch.

Word. Domestic fights ain’t nobody’s business at the end of the day, unless you’re the CPS or police.
If there’s a woman walking down the street having her purse snatched or threatened with a knife or something, that’s another thing.
But a dude beating ‘his woman’, she probably deserves it.

He is just a more masculine white knight.
The question is: where is the state when you need it?? Maybe president Hussein is interested in spend cop funds in welfare. The social contract is broken. The state doesn’t protect us from physical attacks but protects socialist voter with our money, and meddles in our sentimental life. I propose, secession and restoration of the US Constitution.

Why? Is US Constitution a libertarian text?? Do you say it by the laws originated from the amendments???
“these united states” that means are other united states which were successful despite its constitution, or what.

well he had to “save” those people, if he did nothing he himself would die too,since hes also on the train. It wasnt a complete selfless act. You fight for number 1 first. the only time you risk it unnecessarily is when its your friends and family. Risking injury for strangers aint worth it.
When you your friends and your family(your tribe) isnt in danger just mind your own business.

Agreed, A strong masculine confidence to protect others is just part this man’s nature and he not deriving and judging his worth by validating women ( aka the white knight ) that I think that is the difference here.

Agreed. He’s a warrior. They risk their lives to protect the weak, even when the weak are thankless cunts who don’t deserve it. It’s just the right thing to do. What separates a man from a white knight is the reasons for doing so. I highly doubt he expected thank-you pussy. He just did what needed to be done.

acting with bravery could also involve breaking up the fight, not picking the “poor helpless female” to save.
acting with bravery and white knighting is a very thin line.
Unless he knew what hes doing and did it cause he likes to throw down and needs an acceptable pc excuse
but honestly no sympathy, you know the danger to hop into a quarrel that doesnt concern you.
best to mind your own business…in the west this mindset has been forgotten

Context is key, obviously. From what I understand about the train incident, I suspect he acted on instinct. Seems he had a little time to observe this chic situation for a few moments. He should’ve called attention to it and called 911. I know it’s easy to analyze after the fact, but self preservation was a factor on the train. He wasn’t protecting his squad in this chic incident. One of the first things they teach you in EMS is that you must be your own first priority. No good to anyone if you’re out of commission. I’d like to here his rationale in regards to this incident. Cheers

This sounds more like greed and not being content with what you have (material). While it is good to strive to do better to achieve goals, greed in the story appears to be the theme. I thought the story would’ve ended with the golden flounder turning into a prince and she dumps the poor old fisherman after he risked his life to fulfill her wishes.

The moral of the tale is to never try to appease your wife. She will never be happy.

Well, let’s hope he gets the right type of ladies swarming after him. It would be a dam shame if a sound guy like this got hitched to a publicity shrew who’ll dump him with a hard bang after the glow has gone. Guys like this tend to always see the best in other people, and despite their bravery and honesty, often they end up like play dough being manipulated in the hands of a shrew. How our virtues get the better of us in our dealings with women, time and time again.

Nah, he needs a felony record, a chopped hog (preferably a stolen model) and a dark triad personality, along with a pocket full of dope and then he would surely get a lot of play. Of course, at this point, why would he want the attention of lame-assed female groupies?

Well, he was attacked by a cur and an ingrate. The fact remains that he responded initially in good faith, putting aside any concerns about his own personal safety, to do a good deem on behalf of someone who was vulnerable and needy. Both sets of behaviors responded exactly to the two opposite sets of character types, cur/delinquent and warrior/protector. I don’t think the fact that he got attacked should negate our faith in the world, as without the attack, we’d perversely have never known about his subsequent good deed. Theologians like Saint Augustine would of course describe his actions as justifying the acts of a righteous man in a wicked world.

He was playing the white knight, sure and the woman’s actions are horribly predictable, but at the same time I imagine he may have been unconsciously motivated to continue the hero role. If he’d subdued the man not only would she have been likely to have changed sides but he would have likely consolidated his reputation as captain America. I don’t mean to be cynical – he seems like a genuinely heroic and selfless individual – but he had a lot more at stake than being a white knight. Indeed the other side of this is that if he had failed to intervene he could have lost his status as a heroic individual.

White knight means doing it for women in hopes of getting some pussy for being such a simp. He seems to be wired for heroism, I strongly doubt he would have acted differently if the “victim” would have been a man. Not a WK in my view, unless future incidents prove this to be the case.

The guy is clearly geared to heroism, whether its his military training or temperament. I’m not suggesting for a moment that he intervened to get in her favours, although to be honest there is also displacement in being white knight (otherwise your internet white knight probably wouldn’t exist). We don’t know the details here, but I suspect that he probably did strongly feel a sense of either duty or an inherent instinct to intervene to save the damsel in distress and that does seem like a kind of white knight reasoning unless he would have done it for any party whatsoever – difficult to know but his former actions make the latter quite possible. I do think though that the need to maintain consistent with his reputation may have played a part as well

“Indeed the other side of this is that if he had failed to intervene he could have lost his status as a heroic individual.”

Our society would’ve shamed him for not intervening and risked his life rather than putting the other prick in jail. She ought to be shamed for for her actions rather than us just saying it’s no surprise.

What happened to Stone’s white knight attackers? If I’m not mistaken, they were referred to as “asians” by some media outlets, and we all know “asians” is the go-to euphemism for muslims. Asians or no asians, pity he didn’t manage to kill at least of few of them. Call it self-defense.

Yes and no. Women are free of cultural and legal sexual limitations for the first time in… ever? So now they are reverting to their true nature. Which is to seek out the sperm of warriors and hunters who take down bears. Thugs, murderers etc., the sort of men who make them afraid for their life. Not the sort who makes them feel safe.

Yes, but I hold it was a mistake, not some willful “I shall save the princess!”. His “outdated warrior code” doesn’t play favorites. All I’m saying is that the lesson can be taken from the woman’s horrible actions without having to impugn his judgement. Now he knows. Hopefully he moves forward and applies the lesson to his future actions.

Agreed. Everyone has an inborn disposition towards certain behaviors. It’s just that the ones we currently consider to be positive are the ones women are repulsed by, and the ones we jail people for are what women want but are not able to admit.

Mere physical ability is not enough. You need a mind to drive it. And women happen to prefer aggressive men over defensive men, even when she is the one being defended.

This makes sense from an evolutionary perspective. In the age of rocks and sticks it was the aggressive men who got most kids because they raped the women of defeated tribes. Nature only cares about procreation, the rest is commentary.

The problem here, of course, is that we went and invented ways to fuck without producing kids, and the men most desirable by women are the ones least interested in raising them in a stable environment. I suspect that in tribal societies warriors and top hunters were out doing their thing while softer men spent more time within the tribe and made sure it stayed functional. Would explain why women see nothing wrong in the alpha fux beta bux strategy.

The problem with the evolutionary argument is that it front loads the whole argument by saying nature only cares about procreation? We have absolutely no idea what nature “thinks” or “want” out of us, if anything. All we know is what a theory made by us “says and thinks” it knows about something called nature.

Even for a strictly Darwinian viewpoint, men who’ve the best genes and are physically in their prime (in their 20s), often display behavior that manifestly puts the propagation of their genes being transmitted to females at peril through risky behaviors (early death through road accidents and suicides for example are highest when men are in their biological, but, necessarily mental prime) which raises question marks about the absolutism of the blind gene theory of evolution. I personally think genetics merely gives certain potentials to the structure of the world and it’s up to us, the inheritors, to figure out how to “add value” to what we’ve been given.

“The problem with the evolutionary argument is that it front loads the whole argument by saying nature only cares about procreation?”

This is the case. “The fittest” is merely whoever can best replicate their dna through future generations. And it is not a problem except perhaps to you personally, it is merely how nature works. Your socially programmed ideas about right and wrong and moral justice and fairness is found nowhere in nature outside of the human mind.

The argument I’m making is broader than that relating merely to the theory of evolution.. We all, including the Scientist construct our theories and ideas about reality and how it works from the human mind with all its cultural and subjective viewpoints. The Scientist no more than the rest of us, can only theorize from the subjective viewpoint of being a “human being” with a partial, limited, view of reality that’s shaped by our human biology, history, and culture. Science is an integral part of this shared culture out which we theorize about the physical world. In theorizing, no matter how objective, we still cannot step outside our own frame of reference and say this is what Scientific theory A says the world definitely is….this is impossible to do. It’s similar to Godel’s problem of reference in his incomplete theorem. There is a certain arrogance and hubris in scientific atheism which ignores this basic observational consideration, which is indeed a very humbling one, which they cannot accept for ideological reasons.

I contend that “nature” is confused and changing based on the simple premise of “fish-tank” scenario. It’s pushing us back to less civilized times via “biological recognition.” More fish in a tank, get more territorial and aggressive, some don’t make it… that goes for both genders.

1885, 1B people on mother Earth.. introduce gasoline and it’s industrious results for farming, creature comforts, and merely 130 years later there’s 7.4B people. That idea alone can account for much of the behavior we see in society, both sexual and socio-economically. I’ve said it before, stop breeding mother fuckers, this world has finite resources.

Hard to argue with this.
I guess the only point I’ll make is that this savage behaviour is but one strategy man has devised for survival and mating.
Different physical conditions and different time periods might make more viable different sets of traits.

Agreed. The more I read about and observe mankind, the more I am convinced that “civilization” is an inherently unnatural state for humanity. It is in practice, a pursuit and labor of love for the privileged and inspired. As for the rest? Just dumb apes who merely go along till thier base instincts compel them to tear it all down.

I like you man, but I honestly believe that sometimes your “innate justice” wiring gets in the way seeing the truth. I know a few thugs, they most assuredly are not – as a general rule – “cowards”. In fact most every dictator, despot, Imperialist, Mafia man, and etc was at his heart a thug, or even a true “Alpha” if you will.

The difference between them and us? They either were exposed to harsh realities early in life or were in touch with a strand of latent Psychopathy that allows them to act in the interest of self and self only…no matter the cost. The end. Nothing more nothing less.

Every predatory species targets the weak to avoid injury while harvesting it’s prey. The young, the old, the infirm. It’s a natural instinct and survival strategy. It’s the same reason the military of the industrialized nation that this white knight serves targets banana republics.

After she has taken his sperm donation, the warrior/hunter is no longer of use to the female. She does not care if he winds up dead or (in the modern era, prison) because the point is he survived up until the time she met him as a badass. Translation to the female limbic brain: Good DNA.

Truth is, she’ll have 10 Beta providers lined up to take care of the bastard offspring so they can have their perceived chance at dribbling one of their own spawn into her womb.

It happened at the pointless Mardi Gras riots in Seattle 14 years ago. Black thugs starting randomly beating people. A group of males started beating down a white female and a young white guy stepped in to save her. Got killed.
I guess you can’t tell twenty somethings not to go out at night but I wonder what kind of club this was in Sacramento. I’ve heard Sac town is getting pretty gangstered out. Maybe he was somewhat trolling around in a shitty place for some hero action. Maybe not.

That’s how I see it. Rural America is being overrun with drugs and whiggers. Suburban America is going whigger. Crappy brown neighborhoods are spreading like fungi, just overtaking land by the day. Normal, decent, two parent, T-Ball America is being relegated to high-income islands here and there. If you’re not upper class financially, you won’t make it into those islands and then your children will have to grow up with real trash. Maybe small towns in flyover America still have some decency. I’m West Coast. The I-5 pipeline has turned into a sewer. A river of brown.

I rather agree with you on this. If a woman hangs with bad boys, then let her have her bad boys. I do draw the line when they draw knives on a human being and attempt to cut her (or draw guns and shoot) but that’s a hen’s tooth situation I’ll likely never see.

I’m amazed that even after all this “red pill” philosophizing, we still make excuses for these women. A woman who swims with sharks – more often than not – is actually THE main manipulator of said sharks. It just happens that when she miscalculates, the consequence are far higher than just “making him sulk, or stopped talking to her”.

You stole my thought. Hate to say it, thug or not, it’s almost always the girl’s fault. She knows dangers she choses to remain close to, or she causes all the insanity that gets her beat whether the guy’s a thug or not.

While I agree with most of your comments, there’s another key dynamic you guys conveniently missed out. Yes, she may be a horrible shit for leaving her hero, but if you were in her position, you would do the same thing. You’re fighting with your bf. Let’s say you don’t know he has a weapon on him. White knight intervenes. You feel a lil sense of hope. White knight gets stabbed. Are you then not gonna go with your attacker? We don’t know if the attacker would have stabbed her too for leaving but I think she made a safer bet going with the attacker. Not defending her, but if the villain just killed batman, I wouldn’t try as hard to escape lol

Sadly, in a sane world, you would be wrong. But, since (as you more or less stated) wymen just had to be “equal” with men, it’s game on. Also, sadly, wymen bring an added vindictiveness to the fray, making it all the more brutal. Once the gender role lines began to be blurred, all bets were off. So ashamed of my world right now…

Nice Avatar name. You described my hidden modus operandi called;”out bitch the bitch.” Oh, she’s gonna threaten to call the cops? Fuck that, get just out of ear shot, and call them first. If they already have a record, even a minor one, that’ll shut their asses up pronto.

Men need to realize that women need drama in their lives. Many times, if the man is ignoring them or just going along with the flow, a woman will start an argument or fight just to bring in a little drama in their lives. All women do this to an extent. They need the drama (it’s why reality TV is so popular or soap operas…..drama, drama, drama.).

Men jumping into domestic disputes is really someone who is interrupting that drama. Stay out of it.

My child-bearing ex had the guy she’s now prego with his child, pop her square in the nose, breaking giving her 2 enormous black eyes… call it a black mask from bottom of her nose to her forehead.

What’s funny, is that other than fact my daughter was in the house when this happened in the attached garage (mind you, they got back together and she’s prego by him), I could care less and am secretly giddy because trust me, she deserved that. In fact, she hit him first in the face, and he cold-clocked her back. Lmfao. She seemingly loves him for it. yep.

She/they failed to report it as a domestic because she’s a nurse and would have lost her job, fucked up her career, and he has 2 kids from different moms before her. Ghetto is as ghetto does I always say. The truth of the story only came out when I contacted child services over the incident when my ex tried pulling shady shit with cops and child services on me… always have a hand to play.

But do you think she lost custody of my kid, or he lose his, even though his daughter from a previous girl was in the car in the garage watching the whole fucking thing? Nope. Pussy pass.. and he minority status. unbelievable isn’t it?

White Knighting is only legitimate when you are defending your younger sister or your daughter. In both cases, only when she’s not a legal adult.

Every other women in Western society deserves no attention when they are attacked, unless you really think that she is either going to be raped (as in real rape) or murdered if you don’t do something. But you pull out a gun, not engage in fisticuffs in those extremely rare situations.

Usually when women are in a position to be slapped by another man, it means they were messing around where they shouldn’t be. It is very rare for a complete stranger to approach a woman and try to do anything to her.

So if she’s messing around where she shouldn’t be, she better be able to handle herself.

This example set by this woman now puts women who are truly in danger to fight on her own without the assistance of other men. Since she doesn’t value a man putting his own life at risk for her sake now makes us all indifferent.

Maybe the values his folks and community gave him or perhaps he saw violence in his own home when he was growing up, and, feels compelled to act when he comes across similar cases in his later life. It’s very difficult to ever answer this question, I suspect most men who respond in such ways wouldn’t be able to give a precise and determined reason about why they jumped in to help another person in an altercation. Also, I wonder if the same person would react the same way if a similar occasion arose where nearly all things were equal as before? Besides you can never rule out the influence of the devil’s buttermilk in these events also.

Maybe so, but it seems the feminists just want to see men fight. They enjoy the show, but disdain the substance behind the battle. I think the feminists need more time to see exactly what they have done to the culture…….They made the mess, let them clean it up.

Let’s look at this another way. Consider the case of the guy on the subway in D.C. who sat there (actually, cowered) and watched a little five foot and something street thug stab a guy to death with a two inch blade right in front of him and did absolutely nothing. Contrast with the actions of Mr. Stone, who made a conscious choice to, unarmed, attack a dude with a Kalashnikov in the hopes of buying enough time with his death for the rest of the people on the train to overpower the terrorist. Are you seriously going to argue moral equivalency between the two? Cause’ the way I see it, the first is a fucking oxygen thief and the second is a hero.

Don’t get involved in domestics, because you are going to end up hitting the woman you are trying trying protect. Ask any night club bouncer, ask Cops who attend domestics. Most women are in violent relationships because they want they want to be, and it’s all they know from childhood. The minute you turn your back to deal with the man beating on her, she’ll strike. Call the cops, that’s what they get paid to deal with.

Re: the medal ceremony photo: Easy to spot the guy who is not military. Take your fucking hands out of your pockets, this is an international press event, at least try to look like a man.

Most likely, in such a scenario I’ll end up in jail for passing by and minding my own business.

Figuratively speaking, I had no meal in my stomach to soothe the effect, nor water to wash it down when I took the red pill, and it stuck in my throat..so after a while I decided to open a bottle of Glen to down it with.

At this point, if I saw a woman or group of them pummeling another guy, I would mord tempted to intervene on the guy’s/fellow brother-in-arms and knock the skanks out instead. Like the author said, white knighting for anyone is dumb, but if today’s “empowered independent women” types step up to a guy and think they can act with impunity, well, depends on how drunk I am. Whether the “train hero” soldier acted imprudently or foolishly in this case, he is still better than 10,000 typical American women rolled into one.

Not entirely sure if that’s the correct role model to emulate. Not helping dumb broads in their domestic violence disputes is one thing, but (for example) not stepping up and stopping a mass shooting or something at that level? No thanks, I’ll take the chance and step up. Life means something to me.

Stepping up and stopping a mass shooting could be considered an extension of self-defense, as there is a chance you could die in the ensuing chaos.
Of course, repetition without reward would lead to a jaded disposition… eventually.

See…people watch too many silly superhero movies and start to take the silly tropes seriously. The world is not hero/villain or good/evil as those stupid movies make it out to be. There are shades of each in every body

My take on this is that you should never get involved in a fight to help someone (man or woman) unless they are yelling for help (assuming they are not incapacited to do so or in obvious mortal danger, as in about to get stabbed from behind). Jumping into a fight just because a woman is involved and she seems to be losing against a man is asking for trouble.

I applaud this man, as foolish as he is. I get that desire to protect the weak and be the shield for the oppressed. But at least metaphorically, I have been stabbed too many times by people I thought I was helping to do it again. I will protect my own interests but I leave other men to fend for themselves. And since all women are strong and independent now, they too can sort out their problems without my intervention. I simply don’t have the time or money to blow on lawyers if the person I am helping decides that my help was at fault for something. It’s sad to feel like this but unless I know a person, they can die in the streets before I put myself at risk physically or legally for their benefit.

Prime example of what altruism gets you in this world, at least in america anyway.

I remember coming out of a bar downtown with a friend and coming up on a guy in an alleyway screaming “how the fuck could you do this to me!?” To some broad who was balling her eyes out so it was pretty obvious what happened. We stopped to watch the late night entertainment from across the street and after about 45 seconds of her pleading and begging for forgiveness he loses it and backhands the shit out of her. She spun around, bounced off the wall and fell down and started crying even more, it was fucking great hahaha. So Im laughing my ass off but my friend, wel call him mike, goes to step in and starts walking across the street and i grab his coat and pull him back and i say “mike men and women are equal now she doesnt need you to save her” and laugh some more.

This right here is why it is vital to screen women for past relationships and walk when you hear horror stories and appeals to white knight for favors.
It is well documented that women tend to defend their current and former abusers. The last thing anyone needs is a nut job ex in the rear-view mirror.

i only have 1 eye, my hairs a mess, my relatives are nuts, my neighbours an ass hole, my best friends a cunt, my owners a wanker, everytime i get really excited i puke, and worst of all, my owner beats me

I have a personal policy to only help close friends and family. Outside of the “clan” though forget it. There are institutions, both public and private, that can help them out. I would only assist a woman if she was a close friend or family and only because of that. Not because she was a woman.

The only exception is that I think the general citizenry has some obligation to help maintain public order. If I could SAFELY intervene to stop something like a mass shooting I believe it is my obligation to society to do so. But, the course of normal human life I think this obligation may only get triggers one or two times if that.

Women have no sense of justice I swear. Exhibit A is female support for Hillary Clinton. It’s not being a democrat vs liberal it’s that she’s a shitty person. She’s rotten to the core and she married a vile, rake, whoremonger, woman abusing rapist i.e. Bill Clinton.

Monica isn’t the one who charged rape. There are charges (unsubstantiated thus far) that he actually forced himself on women. Enough to call him that? I don’t really know, I forfeit judgement lacking evidence, but I wouldn’t put it past him. He’s not one of us, he’s an utter psychopath and has a string of “unsolved mystery” dead bodies, some suicide by shooting themselves behind the left ear in the skull, behind him, so I’m wont to not give him a full pass on some things.

That was my point. We don’t know if he did or didn’t so we we can not say until he undergoes a trial. We don’t want to judge the same way feminists judge any man accused of such a heinous crime. I certainly don’t think he’s all that innocent either.

“We don’t know if he did or didn’t so we we can not say until he
undergoes a trial. We don’t want to judge the same way feminists judge any man accused of such a heinous crime.”

You’ll need to stop extending “in group” luxuries to enemies, if you ever want that boot stomping on your face to stop stomping. Clinton allows feminists and other political allies to attack his enemies with, not just lack of evidence but, obvious lies that are contradicted by mountains of known facts (stuff on the level of the Duke Lacrosse team rape allegations). Therefore, turn around is fair play, the “accusation is the evidence.” He’s guilty. Then keep knocking down Democrat politicos like that. That’s the only way the Left would ever stop using such tactics is if the tables are turned.

What does Hilary Clinton have to do with today’s modern woman? How is she anything like a typical woman in today’s world? She is a politician, where very few women get past the assistant level positions in politics and she has found herself as one of the first and few female senators in the WORLD.

Second, she is upper class. She is extremely famous, a household name that gives her rank over most politicians even other senators. She is her own rock star with a name that will get her into the most exclusive places without an invitation or reservation. She is married to Bill Clinton who was PRESIDENT. Most first ladies don’t step outside the lines of first class lady, but she is Senator of New York… enough said.

If you’re going to compare all women to one woman, Hilary Clinton is so over- reaching and un-relatable to most modern day women, it’s not even funny. Her status and poise is what many women aspire to be but will unfortunately not ever come close to reaching.

Most presidents cheated on their wives. Bill Clinton has a name that will get down any woman’s panties. The Clintons are considered a power couple. Without each other, they have seemingly nothing. If Hilary wants to pretend not to be lesbian and stay married to one of the most powerful men in the world that also happens to have cheated on her, that’s totally up to her.
Without his name and his support, she wouldn’t even be able to run for president.

I’ve commented before that a man 100 years ago you might reasonably step in to protect a female stranger because (a) you could reasonably assume other men would do the same for your wife or sister and (b) you could assume the woman was probably a virtuous person who deserved protection. Neither is true any more. I might white knight for an Amish girl. Thats it.

Almost forgot to mention, proud soldiers are the ultimate beta’s, go look up the divorce rates in the 20th century, and witness the correlation with divorce spikes and the end of wars that take place, when the men come home, they find out about wifey, fucking the poolboy haha, it’s hilarious, proud soldiers are the ultimate lord of cuck, they go to war for leaders who despise them, wives who despise them, and they come home like a happy dog asking for approval from the master, … ultimate slave mentality.

I’m prior service. Everything you said is truth. While in Iraq we lost guys from our unit. The gf of my buddy heard a rumor that he was the one who was lost. She bought a brand new car the next day. True story

This really is one of those life lessons. You have to remember when you see a man and woman fighting in public she CHOSE him and this likely isn’t the first time they’ve fought and odds are it isn’t the first time he’s hit her. Plenty of women will go out of their way to provoke a man knowing he will hit her. You might just try to calm things down a little, but don’t stick your neck out, you likely won’t come out ahead.

Why is this story all of the sudden turned around as an attack on women who take men for granted? He intervened in a domestic dispute between a woman and her boyfriend. This should really be another story about domestic violence and how women put up with it. Every article I have read thus far on this website has been anti-woman. Are all of your writers misogynist?

Are you kidding? How is this woman all of the sudden the antagonist in this story? Did she stab the soldier herself? No! She simply ignored him when he stuck his nose in her business. If she is such an asshole, then why did he need to be violent in order to protect her and why are the guys who ended up defending themselves against the soldier almost never mentioned. Instead it’s about how chivalry is dead and women don’t care for men helping them out in ugly situations.
When did women EVER choose a stranger over her man during a rivalry? When has the good cowboy ever gotten the girl? Why is this all of the sudden a “feminist” issue about women who hurt men? Women will never leave their man during a fight- especially when this so called stranger loses the fight. This is completely another story about how women don’t leave violent situations. Nothing has changed from the 1920s when women began the civil rights campaigns. Women are still attracted to the biggest and the baddest and they wont leave their big bad men even if it just might kill them.

Irrelevant. If a woman wants to open her legs to a “bad boy” who smacks her around in public, that’s her bad luck. This article is a warning to the rest of us.. don’t bother coming to her rescue. You can if you want.. best of luck recovering from the stab wounds.

But nothing is new. In real life, women don’t leave their big bad boyfriends/ husbands for the good cowboy. This has never been the case. The writer of the article is making it sound like feminism and the women’s civil right’s movements are the reason why chivalry is dead. They are making it sound like this woman was even responsible for the fight when really, the soldier stuck his nose in her business, got a little violent and her boyfriend stood up for himself. The boyfriend and his friends- who were the ones who stabbed the soldier are barely mentioned in this article. How can that be? What crime did this woman commit? She stayed loyal to her man. This is completely about domestic violence and how women are still attracted to the biggest and the baddest even though freedoms have liberated women from these conditions.

Really? You best go back and read the article again, because I can’t find a mention of feminism anywhere. Rather, it sounds to me your in 100% agreement with the article.. “guys, don’t stick your noses in when you see a woman being abused”. Right? (I would say “anyone being abused”, but it’s not like anyone gives a shit when they see some harpy bitchslapping some poor bastard on the street).

I guess you’re right, but it’s funny the author has to harp on the woman in this case when really the men who stabbed the soldier were more or less defending themselves (and the author barely mentions them.) The woman wasn’t with complete strangers, she was with her boyfriend. Seeing her boyfriend be confronted by another man wont make her admire the man or like him- just as men don’t like when strangers confront their women- (especially if it’s another man.) When other people intervene during a fight- it’s the man that says “Mind your damn business.” It’s the men that came up with this rule. It’s a man that intervened and it’s a man that stabbed him.

The article wants to ridicule women who don’t appreciate men in these types of situations, and the real question is- why would we? No man appreciates it, so why should a woman?

This article talks about women as if we ignore decent, good men and I did read the article again. It doesn’t mention feminism, but it discusses a woman’s flakiness. The woman in this story wasn’t flaky. She stayed true and loyal to her boyfriend- despite the circumstances. I’d say that’s far from flaky.

If the situation has been that a man stepped in and she actually did stay with the soldier and went with him to the hospital, I bet the author would have written an article about how women always need saving and how weak and pitiful they are.

So once again, you agree with the article 100%. And I believe the author was not saying women are “flaky”, but rather they are ingrates, especially when a man intercedes on her behalf when she is ostensibly in danger.
Of course if the opposite happens, i.e. a woman really is danger but no one comes to her rescue, then watch the outrage and “cowardly bastards” shaming fly from one end of the Media to the other.

“Mind your damn business.” It’s the men that came up with this rule.”.. Oh yeah, and who’s ass did you pull that one out of?

Um, probably yours since you seem to hate when women comment on this article and disagree with it. I get it… I should mind my damned business. I shouldn’t stick up for women because I’m going to have someone like you insulting me for it. I should read the article again, because it totally says something like that.

I’m sorry, I should have stuck a “doesn’t care about your feels” trigger warning on my post. BTW, you’re a woman? So I’m supposed to be psychic now. Anyway for someone who spent 3 posts telling men to “mind their damned business”, you sure are touchy about people telling you the same.. which, incidentally, no one was. Indeed, by all means, please continue.

I never said I was a woman, but you obviously knew I was… maybe you are psychic or maybe you saw my name and seemed to be speaking for women as if I am one myself. You are full of yourself. Did you write this article or did something like this happen to you and a woman didn’t leave her boyfriend for you after you got the shit beat out of you? Either way dont be suprised. No woman likes arrogance.

Your name is irrelevant. Actually your hurt feelings, histrionics and appeal to violence marked you more as the typical male feminist troll than a female. The kind of guy who thinks women go all gushy over white knighting… ironically because, as you yourself admitted, no woman likes that either. In either case, does imagining the shit beat out me give you a woody? Sounds pretty depraved, I bet you’d be quite at home at Jezebel.

Oh you think your ignorant name calling is hurting my feelings. Just because a woman can actually debate an article about the typical female- from a female’s perspective, does your male entitlement and ego really feel the need to act like a lesser endowed individual than the “white knight” in the article. Grow some balls and stop being a complete dickhead to women you don’t even know. Im assuming you’re single. Get a clue, maybe my husband can teach you some manners while you’re at it.

Oooohhh we got us a keyboard warrior. I bet your husband really appreciates you threatening some guy on the internet with proxy violence on his behalf. That alone tells me, and all men, all we need to know about the kind of female are. Enjoy growing old with a houseful of cats.

Who said anything about violence? Once again you are taking something I said and taking it out of context and fitting it into your small pee brain understanding of how words fit together. This also shows how quick you personally are to think violently. I’m married to a man that actually treats women well- and has manners. Good luck to you and your insane understanding of women. I think you’d have better luck as a gay man.

(sorry for the delay) So when you said your hubby could “teach me a lesson”, you meant for him to sit me down in a classroom with Powerpoint slides? Right. In that case, put your money where your mouth is: Get him to read this comment thread in its entirety. I’d be interested to hear his thoughts on it. Do that and I’ll consider myself “schooled”.

you shouldn’t try to save a girl who is WITH another dude, getting beaten or whatever. But if the girl is WITH YOU, and another dude puts his hands on her or something, you knock him out. This is a big turn on for girls, and will make them be more into you.

Mr.Stone is lucky to be alive. Hopefully he has learned a lesson about trying to be a hero. Preventing a terrorist attack is one thing. Jumping in between two drunk lovers is another. Unless the one person is about to be killed either call the police or move on and keep your internal organs intact

but may just look on when a
refrigerator of a man attacks a proverbial male Hobbit outside a
nightclub.

I intervened once like this, although the Hobbit was actually female. I walked into a bowling alley to find this crazy guy with his hand knotted up some chicks hair, repeatedly swinging her into the fixtures and fittings. Apparently she had said something smart about his hat (completely unaware that he was a known gangster and psycho) and continued to talk trash while he beat the shit out of her.

The security guards (who knew him well) apparently had more important duties to handle at that moment. Not a white knight among them.

I didn’t even think. I immediately stepped in. I was maybe 17 years old. Rather than attack him (like an idiot) I just spoke to him calmly and gently, and suggested he let me take the girl away. He calmed down and released her, and then left the alley.

At this point the valiant security guards arrived to ensure everyone was OK. When asked why they didn’t tackle the guy the response was “because I don’t want to get shot!”

There is a way to handle violent situations and it doesn’t always involve being violent yourself.

I will say this, her gratitude lasted only a short while. I found out she was talking trash behind my back (because I believed in stupid stuff like getting an education). So at that point my association with her ended.

My mom’s boyfriends try to go all white knight on me for throwing tantrums so the bitch would make me some food. They get up in my face and I just get my katana and they fuck right off. Mom is MY bitch.

The general population is not trained in combat or crisis prep. It is the deer in headlights scenario. 2/3 of the population in crisis literally shut down mentally. I’ve seen it personally multiple times. Women are more likely then men to do this. It’s like COD but real. Most people have little situational awareness and saving them means they hardly notice and run away while you get blasted for giving away your location. Only in life there is no respawns.

totally, I really don’t think most men that hit a women, get off on hitting women, but rather the women they’re with really pushes him so far to that edge he snaps. How many domestics stem from a guy taking back a cheating bitch, then as women do, the next big fight is a culmination of bringing back up the cheating saying some shit like:”He was a better fuck than you, he’s got a bigger dick, he’s more of a man than you’ll ever be…” and the guy fuckin loses it. Guarantee 50-90% of domestics have a basis in hypergamy and sexual sleeze.

Yeah, white knight is probably not the right word. Or perhaps it is, but not in the deragatory way it is usually used, but what the word knight really means. Just a habitual hero. It sucks that he probably got stabbed for nothing, and I wasn’t there, but I do not think one iota less of him for doing what he did.

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