You guys are just going nuts for Stab Wound, aren't you. I agree that an assessment of the format is required to determine how often Hellkite is castable. If it were 6 CMC I think picking it would be a no-brainer, but I don't like it for 8. Yeah, Stab Wound is probably the pick here.

You guys are just going nuts for Stab Wound, aren't you. I agree that an assessment of the format is required to determine how often Hellkite is castable. If it were 6 CMC I think picking it would be a no-brainer, but I don't like it for 8. Yeah, Stab Wound is probably the pick here.

I don't like playing cards that require me to go through half my deck just to cast, they certainly don't help me get to that point. Even once dragon hits the board he is just a body on the first turn. I'd take the solid removal over that any day. I've won many drafts because my opponents decided to take flashy expensive bombs and I've aggressively drafted removal. They have less castable cards than me in their hand, so if I have removal to match their best creatures I can just kill them.

It never feels right passing this kind of bomb, but 8 mana isn't 7, and that's a pretty big difference.

Stab Wound

IRL, I'd windmill the dragon

Tolkein was a jerk. Seriously, what DM sends 9 Wraith Lords at a Lvl 2 party of Halflings.
The only 'correct' way to play D&D is by whatever method is making the group you have at that session, have the most fun.

You should never explain layers to people unless one of the following is true: they're studying for a judge exam, you're both in a Ben Affleck movie and it's the only way to save the world, or you hate them.

56663526 wrote:

We try to maintain the illusion that Magic cards are written in English.

56333196 wrote:

69511863 wrote:

Hell, if they steal from us, we'd be honored.

oh my god, AWESOME!
Then changing the Slivers was your idea! haha
lol

56734518 wrote:

Occassionally when catering, I've been put the task of arranging Fruit and Cheese or Grilled Vegetable platters. More than once a high class buffet has started with the mark of Phyrexia upon it. Since i've got a good eye for color so it looks great to people who don't get the "joke" (it's a niceley divided circle after all: the outline gives you 4-6 "regions" to work with), this has actually got me put on platter design more often, resulting in Phyrexia's presence at more private and industry events.

I get the don't grab bombs. My one thought is Izzet has remove, Dispel, Cancel, Essence backlash, Detain. All in Red Blue. Not knowing if you are going to get those is tough. I'm going hellkite and hoping later packs and cheap blue removal.

While I still think I'm sticking with stab wound, it occured to me that in most drafts you might have a reasonable chance of being passed Guild Feud which is normally a write-off card as unplayable. However, with this bad boy sitting in your deck, you KNOW you have the better creature and you know that when it hits the table you win. So, while it might be a gamble, building around possibly being passed the Feud might not be unreasonable. Still take the low end bears, but don't be afraid to play an overcosted deck and run 18 maybe 19 lands to really hit those drops.

Tolkein was a jerk. Seriously, what DM sends 9 Wraith Lords at a Lvl 2 party of Halflings.
The only 'correct' way to play D&D is by whatever method is making the group you have at that session, have the most fun.

I've seen angels fall from blinding heights. But you yourself are nothing so divine. Just next in line.

191752181 wrote:

All I'm saying is, I don't really see how she goes around petrifying swords and boots and especially mirrors. How the heck does she beat a Panoptic Mirror? It makes no sense for artifacts either. Or enchantments, for that matter. "Well, you see, Jimmy cast this spell to flood the mountain, but then the gorgon just looked at the water really hard and it went away."

I've seen angels fall from blinding heights. But you yourself are nothing so divine. Just next in line.

191752181 wrote:

All I'm saying is, I don't really see how she goes around petrifying swords and boots and especially mirrors. How the heck does she beat a Panoptic Mirror? It makes no sense for artifacts either. Or enchantments, for that matter. "Well, you see, Jimmy cast this spell to flood the mountain, but then the gorgon just looked at the water really hard and it went away."

We might be able to wheel something decent from this pack, possibly Deviant Glee.

The guy who passed this took a common, wonder what it was, hopefully not another Stab Wound Would you take stab wound over connections?

Tolkein was a jerk. Seriously, what DM sends 9 Wraith Lords at a Lvl 2 party of Halflings.
The only 'correct' way to play D&D is by whatever method is making the group you have at that session, have the most fun.

Yeah, even drawing an extra card every turn for five or six mana is often insane in limited. It isn't really much of a downside that you have to dump into this every turn either, because you'll draw more land than your opponent, meaning you'll actually have access to more mana than they do. The 1 damage is certainly relevant, but the great thing about this card is that you can stop whenever you want to.

Yeah, even drawing an extra card every turn for five or six mana is often insane in limited. It isn't really much of a downside that you have to dump into this every turn either, because you'll draw more land than your opponent, meaning you'll actually have access to more mana than they do. The 1 damage is certainly relevant, but the great thing about this card is that you can stop whenever you want to.

Played this last night in my Rakdos deck. Only drew it once, but when it hit, I BURIED a Selesnya deck in card advantage.

Those who fear the darkness have never seen what the light can do.

I've seen angels fall from blinding heights. But you yourself are nothing so divine. Just next in line.

191752181 wrote:

All I'm saying is, I don't really see how she goes around petrifying swords and boots and especially mirrors. How the heck does she beat a Panoptic Mirror? It makes no sense for artifacts either. Or enchantments, for that matter. "Well, you see, Jimmy cast this spell to flood the mountain, but then the gorgon just looked at the water really hard and it went away."

You should never explain layers to people unless one of the following is true: they're studying for a judge exam, you're both in a Ben Affleck movie and it's the only way to save the world, or you hate them.

56663526 wrote:

We try to maintain the illusion that Magic cards are written in English.

56333196 wrote:

69511863 wrote:

Hell, if they steal from us, we'd be honored.

oh my god, AWESOME!
Then changing the Slivers was your idea! haha
lol

56734518 wrote:

Occassionally when catering, I've been put the task of arranging Fruit and Cheese or Grilled Vegetable platters. More than once a high class buffet has started with the mark of Phyrexia upon it. Since i've got a good eye for color so it looks great to people who don't get the "joke" (it's a niceley divided circle after all: the outline gives you 4-6 "regions" to work with), this has actually got me put on platter design more often, resulting in Phyrexia's presence at more private and industry events.

I'd probably take the Grisly Salvage and go in for a Golgari/Scavenge deck but I think I might get outvoted.

You don't think the advantage Connections provides trumps the advantage and card selestion Grisly Salvage provides? Salvage might hit a single Scavenge creature if you're lucky and net you the best card out of the five. Connections on the other hand is like a massive Skeletal Scrying. Would you pick Impulse over Tidings?

Underworld Connections, easily and by a mile. The crazy card advantage it generates, coupled with the lack of any sort of decent LD, and only a handful of enchantment destruction, means this will add up quick.