The Remington ammo KB'd twice on the Remington Rifle.
After about 100 rounds of Remington ammo on the P22, my shots started slewing around (balagbag). The barrel was really fouled with lead. :sad:

Using the Armscor lead SV on the Remington 597 resulted in groupings that are 5 inches from 50 meters. :sad:

When I used the Armscor subsonic JHP on the Remington 597, I managed to hit the bullseye (about the size of a one peso coin) thrice from 50 meters (one hole yung isa). Then I started targeting the silhouettes from 50 meters. No misses (there were at least seven). :banana: This was after I removed the flash hider. When the flash hider was connected, I can only manage 5 inch groupings. I noticed that whenever the suppressor was also connected, accuracy suffered somewhat. Lessons learned:

1] Do not use the Remington Thunderbolt for both firearms;
2] Do not use the Armscor lead - Standard Vel for both firearms;
3] Use the .22 LR Armscor SS-JHP at least for the Remington 597;
4] Remove the flash hider for greater accuracy;
5] Remove the silencer for increased accuracy;
6] Always clean the chamber and barrel (especially the one of the Remington 597 - it looks polygonal).

batangueno

07-17-2007, 06:55

I was really so close at buying a 22lr yesterday at the gunshow. I was only contemplating on either getting a rifle or pistol. The CZ452 or the Ruger MkIII. Hope to hear issues or suggestions regarding these two firearms. :)

Originally posted by batangueno
I was really so close at buying a 22lr yesterday at the gunshow. I was only contemplating on either getting a rifle or pistol. The CZ452 or the Ruger MkIII. Hope to hear issues or suggestions regarding these two firearms. :)

Originally posted by 9MX
i feel, pareho tayo ng pinaglalawayan na rifle, does it start with the letter "G?":thumbsup:

"G"? As in "garand"?

vega

07-17-2007, 08:13

G as in Walther G22.

9MX

07-17-2007, 08:33

Originally posted by vega
G as in Walther G22.

may tama ka! spin a win:thumbsup:

antediluvianist

07-17-2007, 21:36

Does anybody have a Ruger Mini-something, that .22LR carbine-type thing for which there are many accessories? ? Have seen them around. Considering for home defense. OK, not a big caliber but has a magazine for multiple hits/misses, and not as indiscriminantly destructive on furniture/paintings etc. as a shotgun is. Handguns out for me can't see well enough anymore need a shoulder rest and long barrel for pointing. Good for plinking too.

Anyway, anybody have one of those ruger Minis? How do you find it? Are spare parts available locally? How much does one cost - P40k or something like that?

Poodle, different rifle/pistol likes different ammo-downside, we have few ammo choices in Pinas. My Armscor rifle and Ruger mark 3 loves remington without any issues or kaboom!:supergrin:

Batangueno, what do you want to have- pistol or rifle? Both are very good FA. CZ rifle is very accurate bone stock. Ruger mark 3 is very reliable out of the box. It will last a lifetime.:supergrin: I want a CZ for my collection.

Ante, it's 10/22 carbine (22lr), it is the one with lots of parts and accesories. If you want it for home defense, use CCI stinger ammo. slightly longer 22 lr that is safe to use on a stock 10/22. Rifle cost 23k to 40k depending on the model. Mini 14 carbines are centerfire rifles with .223 ammo, have not seen one here. it cost more than 10/22

RT, .17 hmr is considered a magnum round, like 22 magnum. that is one of the best caliber for a rimfire. it is like downscaled .223. it has a flat trajectory of 100 yards compared to 50 yards for 22lr and 75 yards for 22 magnum. Have not seen any ammo like that here locally. Might be costly if available

Regarding "G" my opinion, i don't like the bullpup design, the ejection port is just at the right side of your face, nakakatakot pag may kaboom!:supergrin: Check rimfirecentral on walther thread for reviews on g22

Originally posted by Dok
Poodle, different rifle/pistol likes different ammo-downside, we have few ammo choices in Pinas. My Armscor rifle and Ruger mark 3 loves remington without any issues or kaboom!:supergrin:

Originally posted by Dok
Batangueno, what do you want to have- pistol or rifle? Both are very good FA. CZ rifle is very accurate bone stock. Ruger mark 3 is very reliable out of the box. It will last a lifetime.:supergrin: I want a CZ for my collection.

Yes it's the lead remington thunderbolts. do you notice that your fingers easily gets dirty when you load magazines using lead remingtons compared to armscor? it's not only the chamber that gets dirty, fingers too!:supergrin:

Batangueno, yes i also like to have those Pac-lite barrels. TL(tulo-laway)ako sa barrels nila. May mga treaded ends pa so you can put silencers.:) Only solution, get both. :supergrin: Get the mark 3 with bull barrels, they include weaver rails with it so you can put red dot on it. :thumbsup:

batangueno

07-19-2007, 07:19

Basta Dok, PM ko kayo pag may tanong ako ah. :)

Poodle

07-19-2007, 07:32

Originally posted by Dok
Yes it's the lead remington thunderbolts. do you notice that your fingers easily gets dirty when you load magazines using lead remingtons compared to armscor? it's not only the chamber that gets dirty, fingers too!:supergrin:

The reason why accuracy suffers when you put on the suppressor and flash hider could be turbulence when the bullet passes through the suppressor and flash hider. That's why match rifles have no restrictions on the muzzle end.

In my experience, standard velocity and/or subsonic 22lr rounds are more accurate than high velocity rounds. We were never able to get the CCI Stingers to beat the standard velocity Armscor rounds that we fed on a bolt action Squires Bingham rifle.

A friend of mine used to hunt in Palawan using Winchester standard velocity ammo. He said they were pretty accurate.

vega

08-02-2007, 09:07

Originally posted by Poodle

The Remington ammo KB'd twice on the Remington Rifle.
After about 100 rounds of Remington ammo on the P22, my shots started slewing around (balagbag). The barrel was really fouled with lead. :sad:

Not ammo related but it might explain why you have KBms.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=64714&page=3

Poodle

08-02-2007, 10:25

Originally posted by vega
Not ammo related but it might explain why you have KBms.