TWOK may have engendered some "spirited discussion" in some Star Trek clubs or something in 1982, but it wasn't one of the biggest releases of that summer and there wasn't much buzz about it among the general public. The skiffy movies that got most of the attention that year were E.T. and Blade Runner.

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In the domestic market TWOK was the fourth highest grossing film of summer 1982 and the sixth highest grossing film of the year. Blade Runner was #27 for the year, although its reputation and influence have grown over the years.

In the domestic market TWOK was the fourth highest grossing film of summer 1982 and the sixth highest grossing film of the year. Blade Runner was #27 for the year, although its reputation and influence have grown over the years.

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We were discussing what movies were widely talked about then, not what they made.

The big story for the studio is the 80% improvement overseas over Trek 2009; that's what they worked hard for and it's coming through. If they get that up to anywhere near 50 percent of the movie's gross they'll be thrilled.

The studio projected $80-100 million, so that's what they got. No real surprises.

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The studio forecast was $100 million for the 4-day weekend. As the article points out, studios usually lowball their forecast so that the ultimate opening gross looks even better in comparison.

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That's just not true, there was some industry talk about it before the debut, but every report I saw projected $80+ million. The fact that Variety predicted $85-90 million and it made $84 million shows it was pretty close to being on track.

In the domestic market TWOK was the fourth highest grossing film of summer 1982 and the sixth highest grossing film of the year. Blade Runner was #27 for the year, although its reputation and influence have grown over the years.

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We were discussing what movies were widely talked about then, not what they made.

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You said TWOK wasn't one of the biggest releases of that summer, which seemed like a box office referrence, and your response was after talking about box office glass celings and ticket prices. Hence my reply.

That's just not true, there was some industry talk about it before the debut, but every report I saw projected $80+ million. The fact that Variety predicted $85-90 million and it made $84 million shows it was pretty close to being on track.

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It is true. A day or two before opening day Paramount was forecasting a $20 million Wed/Thu and an $80 million 3-day weekend, for a total of $100 million. It's that forecast that Box Office Guru was referring to.

Watch what Paramount does for the next flick. They'll cast a big time Chinese actress in a Captain's role or in the role of Kirk's sidekick heroine because they think that the Chinese market is untapped. See if I'm not right.

ST'09 died in Asia last time 'round and Paramount wants to improve on that.