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Alonso's early 2010 campaign (until the German GP) was riddled with errors whether it be driver, team or both.

Australia - Incident with Button (I blame Button more than Alonso in this incident). This I believe actually cost him the race win.Malaysia - Going out in Q1 (Team/driver mistake).Monaco - Driving incident which meant he couldn't take part in qualifying. Big mistake this one, as he would have been challenging for the win.Canada - Got caught out in traffic (Not a major mistake but a mistake none-the-less). The McLaren's were ultimately faster and they got the result.Great Britain - Not giving the place back when he should (Team/driver mistake). Another huge error, mega points lost here considering Vettel had issues and the McLaren of Hamilton finished second. Ferrari had a faster car that weekend if only marginally.

And jumping the start in China.Thank goodness someone in this thread is objective enough to recognise both the brilliant performances and the errors of Alonso in 2010. It gets so tiresome when discussions are populated either by those who wish to denigrate a driver at every opportunity, or else twist everything to make sure their favourite driver looks perfect. Anyway, let's hope for a strong Ferrari and Alonso weekend in Germany

topical and Ferrari2183 - have to say I agree with your overall assesment.

On the positive side, but away from just "on track performance", one of my favourite Alonso moments in 2010 was his post-race radio at Silverstone. I thought that was magnificent and says so much about his ability to bring a team along with him. Despite what must have been huge personal disappointment and frustration for what happened in that race, he sent out a message of confidence to the team in what they had done with the car and that they would be challenging for the title. Everyone thought it was crazy, his odds for the WDC plummeted, but he was right.

And jumping the start in China.Thank goodness someone in this thread is objective enough to recognise both the brilliant performances and the errors of Alonso in 2010. It gets so tiresome when discussions are populated either by those who wish to denigrate a driver at every opportunity, or else twist everything to make sure their favourite driver looks perfect. Anyway, let's hope for a strong Ferrari and Alonso weekend in Germany

If you ask me, this is why the grid seems so closely matched over the last three or so seasons. Everyone is messing up here and there. OTOH, the Schumi years were far more devastating. The Schumi/Ferrari machine were so well oiled.

We may be witnessing the dawn of the Alonso/Ferrari machine where very few messups occur. 2010, I agree was an up and down season for all contenders involved. It's the ups and downs of RedBull that put Alonso in contention despite all the problems and messups earlier in the season.

Look at Hamilton's year last year. Good grief.... if I've ever felt like saying so about an reputed great among the drivers today.

And jumping the start in China.Thank goodness someone in this thread is objective enough to recognise both the brilliant performances and the errors of Alonso in 2010. It gets so tiresome when discussions are populated either by those who wish to denigrate a driver at every opportunity, or else twist everything to make sure their favourite driver looks perfect. Anyway, let's hope for a strong Ferrari and Alonso weekend in Germany

The interesting thing is that several drivers made very costly errors in 2010 and, as a consequence, they all now seem to understand that value of relentless consistency. Vettel, Button and Alonso scored very consistently last year, and Vettel, Webber and Alonso are doing it this year. It won't be possible to beat these guys if you are having unnecessary DNFs (over and above the usual one or two that are unavoidable).

If you ask me, this is why the grid seems so closely matched over the last three or so seasons. Everyone is messing up here and there. OTOH, the Schumi years were far more devastating. The Schumi/Ferrari machine were so well oiled.

We may be witnessing the dawn of the Alonso/Ferrari machine where very few messups occur. 2010, I agree was an up and down season for all contenders involved. It's the ups and downs of RedBull that put Alonso in contention despite all the problems and messups earlier in the season.

Look at Hamilton's year last year. Good grief.... if I've ever felt like saying so about an reputed great among the drivers today.

He has failed to score points on only two occasions since the 2010 British GP (i.e. two full seasons, 37 races). They were Spa 2010 and Canada 2011.

My recollection is that after the race he came over the radio to the team saying effectively that whilst it was a disappointing result the performance was there in the car and that the team shouldn't worry - they would be fighting for the championship.

Wish I could find it but it seems Webber's "not bad for a number 2" is the only thing google wants to let me see about the aftermath of that race!

topical and Ferrari2183 - have to say I agree with your overall assesment.

On the positive side, but away from just "on track performance", one of my favourite Alonso moments in 2010 was his post-race radio at Silverstone. I thought that was magnificent and says so much about his ability to bring a team along with him. Despite what must have been huge personal disappointment and frustration for what happened in that race, he sent out a message of confidence to the team in what they had done with the car and that they would be challenging for the title. Everyone thought it was crazy, his odds for the WDC plummeted, but he was right.

Yes, I remember that too. If things had gone right at Abu Dhabi that radio transmission might even be more famous now than "not bad for a number 2" from the same race!

And jumping the start in China.Thank goodness someone in this thread is objective enough to recognise both the brilliant performances and the errors of Alonso in 2010.

have been done by all participants. dont know why we should emphasize anybody's objectivity, if it was clear that everybody was till now objective.just out of curiosity: who in your opinion was not objective?

In Autosport's most recent article on Alonso, there's an interesting line:

have been done by all participants. dont know why we should emphasize anybody's objectivity, if it was clear that everybody was till now objective.just out of curiosity: who in your opinion was not objective?

Those who said he made less significant errors in 2010 than Hamilton and Vettel, or that it was a steward's decision, not his mistakes, that cost him the title that year. So people like you, I guess.

Those who said he made less significant errors in 2010 than Hamilton and Vettel, or that it was a steward's decision, not his mistakes, that cost him the title that year. So people like you, I guess.

i havent said that he made less mistakes than vet or ham. nor did i say that stewards decisions alone were the reason for him not winning 2010. If you try to be the judge who decides who is objective and who not, try to analyse better.till now everybody of us in this discussion has just come up with parts of the truth and emphasized those parts differently. but none till now, has been more or less objective than others.some have concentrated on his mistakes, some have also highlighted team mistakes, and some also have mentioned the stewards decisions which played a part in 2010.the truth about 2010 is that all those three parts played their role in alonso not winning it. but to rule out that not just his mistakes were a factor is untrue and not objective. the same goes for some stewards decisions that had influenced the 2010 world championship. i am not mad at you, or anything like this, i am just disappointed that you allow yourself to judge about objectivity without analysing the details.

Thank goodness someone in this thread is objective enough to recognise both the brilliant performances and the errors of Alonso in 2010. It gets so tiresome when discussions are populated either by those who wish to denigrate a driver at every opportunity, or else twist everything to make sure their favourite driver looks perfect. Anyway, let's hope for a strong Ferrari and Alonso weekend in Germany

That's not an objective list at all. Nobody is perfect, but we have to set up some standard what we call acceptable driving, and what we call a mistake. Because in Alonso's case somebody lists even being caught in traffic, being out of Q1 and not giving place back as a mistakes, when in Hamilton's case we would hear - how much bad luck he has, how team screws him over and how unfairly stewards treat him.

Such list simply shows that everybody is very used to Alonso being almost perfect and have to nit pick for mistakes. Even crashing in practice is something that many drivers do and nobody even calls it a mistake - Hamilton and Vettel did it too in 2010. But in Aloso's case crash resulted in being unable to participate in qualifying - so simply because of circumstances it seems like a big error. The only driver errors that year were jumpstart in China and crashing in Spa.