The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris

Inference: CE, a disfiguring and unattractive injury, is a consequence of training and competing in fighting styles that aren't bullshit. No one wants it, some of us are susceptable to it.

Discuss.

I was under the impression that bullshido meant for fraud and BS in the martial arts. If a karate school is setup to train kids to do forms, and compete in point sparring, and lets their parents know that, is it bullshido? McDojo for sure, but bullshido?

Another counter point would be backyard brawling/wrestling. There is more of a chance that some kid is going to get his ear mangled with a 2X4 wrapped in barbed wire, than a kendoka wearing full armor or a kyokushin full contact fighter. Does this validate backyard wrestling, while disproving kendo or kyokushin?

I do not belive cauliflower ear is a good litmus test for bullshido. McDojo, more so, as belt factories are setup for profit, and people getting injured is bad business in general.

I was under the impression that bullshido meant for fraud and BS in the martial arts. If a karate school is setup to train kids to do forms, and compete in point sparring, and lets their parents know that, is it bullshido? McDojo for sure, but bullshido?

Another counter point would be backyard brawling/wrestling. There is more of a chance that some kid is going to get his ear mangled with a 2X4 wrapped in barbed wire, than a kendoka wearing full armor or a kyokushin full contact fighter. Does this validate backyard wrestling, while disproving kendo or kyokushin?

I do not belive cauliflower ear is a good litmus test for bullshido. McDojo, more so, as belt factories are setup for profit, and people getting injured is bad business in general.

Fraud = calling something martial art when there is no martial involved.
And as demonstrated it isn't perfect (e.g. differential susceptability and backyard fighting and wrestling). Nonetheless as a rule of thumb I'm guessing it works.

Fraud = calling something martial art when there is no martial involved.

Fraud = saying your XMA team could do kicks and flips over attackers, and bring the pain down on their opponents.

*NOT*

saying your XMA team has a fun time and gets a good workout while impressing chicks at parties.

You can't call fraud on something just because it calls itself a MA, even if it's 98% art and only 2% martial. You can call bullshido on something that calls itself the be-all-and-end-all to martial art if it sucks ass, even if it's 98% martial and 2% full-of-****.

Cauliflower ear was fairly common among Boxers in the past. Itís much less prevalent today because they donít fight as often, wear heavier gloves, and also wear larger heavier headgear when sparring. The pre 1920ís Boxers often fought wearing 4 and 6 ounce gloves which were about the size of modern speed bag gloves. Cauliflower ear was even worse for the bare-knuckle boxers in the 1800ís because of all of the standup wrestling and holding and hitting that they were allowed to get away with.