Listen. I'm about done listening to people tell me how awesome 1st loser was in a race and how he would do such a great job. To do a great job you have to get it first. The Cruz bullshit on this site is like listening to some degenerate alcoholic at the bar talk about how Tampa Bay was cheated out of the Super Bowl this year.

It does get very tiring. Reminds me of the Paul bots for Ron Paul. I liked Paul, he was my Congressman. But the cult of Paul did much to diminish him at a voice of reason in DC. I fear the Cult of Cruz (pretty much the same people) will do the same to Cruz. Cruz will neverbe president since Cruz is not a natural born citizen.

*resisting the greater urge to post a pic of Sen.Cruz out of respect @Emjay, had RiV started this Thread I would have already posted the pic..JS

You mean like this one? Couldn't resist; after all he does live rent free in some people's minds.

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...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

Listen. I'm about done listening to people tell me how awesome 1st loser was in a race and how he would do such a great job. To do a great job you have to get it first. The Cruz bullshit on this site is like listening to some degenerate alcoholic at the bar talk about how Tampa Bay was cheated out of the Super Bowl this year.

I don't disagree. Just making notes for my tell-all book.

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Truth has to be repeated constantly, because Error also is being preached all the time, and not just by a few, but by the multitude. In the Press and Encyclopaedias, in Schools and Universities, everywhere Error holds sway, feeling happy and comfortable in the knowledge of having Majority on its side.

@Emjay Wait, do you have an island??? And your kids are coming to visit? I'm so jealous!

@LauraTXNM Hah. I wish! I don't have an Island but I've lived on Maui for 3 years and I love it here. My daughter lives next door with her husband. They are both wonderful and her husband is fantastic. It's like having a handyman who can do anything right next door.

My son (also wonderful) and his wife, my DIL that I adore live in the second best place in the world, Canon City, Colorado. They left yesterday. They were here a week and it was great having them. My son loves Kihei (our town on Maui). He would move here in a minute if he could.

I said some very nice things about you on that thread, including that I was sorry you were leaving.

Now I can say, that I'm glad you didn't leave!

We may disagree (well, we DO disagree) about Trump, but you're A-OK in my book!

Yes, we disagree but I like you also.

This forum is wonderful for discussion but some people love to fight. I tried to get on a long thread yesterday about Trump's accomplishments but the Mods had just shut it down for infighting.Kinda sad.

This sentence is the crux of what I think is wrong about all the premature celebrations, accolades, and tributes for Trump simply accepting a meeting with a dictator (which is all that's actually happened to date). Contrary to Tim Mostert's assertion above, I don't think "real leadership" is about being willing to sit down and hammer out a solution, it's about ACTUALLY hammering out the solution.

If in this case, Trump gets North Korea to actually denuke and he gets inspectors access to all of North Korea to verify this, I'll give the President all the credit in the world. No one else has been able to accomplish that, and if he does, he'll deserve all that credit. That's a huge IF and we're a long way from it IMO. Until the solution is actually hammered out, I'm not going to celebrate someone who's simply willing to solve a problem. Let's solve it THEN let's celebrate!

@Concerned You cannot solve a problem unless you're willing to TRY to solve it and even take the risk of failing. Please, a tiny bit of credit for the effort.

This forum is wonderful for discussion but some people love to fight. I tried to get on a long thread yesterday about Trump's accomplishments but the Mods had just shut it down for infighting.Kinda sad.

I agree. I like a lively debate, and sometimes get sucked into things I shouldn't, but the non-stop bickering of some really brings the forum down, IMO.

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Character still matters. It always matters.

May 3, 2016 - the day the Republican party left ME. I am now without a Party, and quite possibly without a country. May God have mercy!

This forum is wonderful for discussion but some people love to fight. I tried to get on a long thread yesterday about Trump's accomplishments but the Mods had just shut it down for infighting.Kinda sad.

I think they reopened it. But who wants to go there now, after all the spilt blood?

When I was working, I used to have an executive or two working for me who wanted to get credit for "the effort". As I told them, our Board of Directors and shareholders aren't compensating us for "effort", they are compensating us for "results". Most of these executives who wanted credit just for effort didn't last that long under me.

This is even more true with the President of the United States IMO. The American People don't vote them in for "effort", we (at least most of us, I think), voted them in for "results". "Real leadership" is just not about "effort" IMO, it's about "results" period. At least IMO.

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Truth has to be repeated constantly, because Error also is being preached all the time, and not just by a few, but by the multitude. In the Press and Encyclopaedias, in Schools and Universities, everywhere Error holds sway, feeling happy and comfortable in the knowledge of having Majority on its side.

�I believe if you work your butt off and pay taxes, you should be able to easily understand and navigate the laws, tax codes, health care and anything else the government puts in place that affects us all,� - Robert James Ritchie

I hope one of them is a copy of one of the love notes you wrote to Madeline.

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Truth has to be repeated constantly, because Error also is being preached all the time, and not just by a few, but by the multitude. In the Press and Encyclopaedias, in Schools and Universities, everywhere Error holds sway, feeling happy and comfortable in the knowledge of having Majority on its side.

I hope one of them is a copy of one of the love notes you wrote to Madeline.

She liked braile so I would punch her in the face.

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�I believe if you work your butt off and pay taxes, you should be able to easily understand and navigate the laws, tax codes, health care and anything else the government puts in place that affects us all,� - Robert James Ritchie

One of my favorite beer joints is across the street from a MHMR Clinic (Mental Health/Mental Retardation), I always park my car at the clinic and walk across the street so no one knows I go to that bar, with that being said My Mother still thinks I'm over at TOS.

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