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I think there was a good core to Thor's arc in the movie, marred by the unfortunate decision to make most of it into throwaway jokes.
That said, "Thor being humbled by his failures and needing to step up" was already much better done in the first movie, and even in Ragnarok. Even though the focus is ultimately quite different in Endgame, it would still have felt a bit like a rehash even if it had been done better.

Yeah, because Thor should remain the same confident self he's always been after watching half his people, including his brother and the one remaining close friend he had, die at the hands of Thanos, with nothing he could do to stop it. It was pretty obvious Thor was going to suffer from some sort of mental disorder from Infinity War already, what with his dialogue towards Rocket about how all he needs is rage so that he doesn't have to focus on anything else.

Hulk's dab was stupid, but it's a stupid on the level of a few seconds that, not including it, wouldn't have realistically changed the scene in any way.

Only change to movie I would have made would be to not have another Infinity War-level fight at the end, making it more about the Time Heist stuff. With how they were "fine" with making up whatever time travel rules they wanted, they could have picked another way for Gamorra to come back.

Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart

Then I will ask that you pay closer attention

Originally Posted by Mcjon01

So if I'm reading this right DP is saying that the feature almost everybody hates that is bad and makes the forum objectively worse will never go away because that would negatively impact another feature that nobody has ever used and most likely never will use just in case someday, someone wants to use it. Is that right?

Originally Posted by You

It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.

Yeah, because Thor should remain the same confident self he's always been after watching half his people, including his brother and the one remaining close friend he had, die at the hands of Thanos, with nothing he could do to stop it.

You misunderstand. I'm not saying I disagree with Thor becoming depressed from everything that's happened to him (although I do think it wasn't well-executed), I'm saying there was no need for yet another arc of "Thor loses something and needs to deal with it".

You misunderstand. I'm not saying I disagree with Thor becoming depressed from everything that's happened to him (although I do think it wasn't well-executed), I'm saying there was no need for yet another arc of "Thor loses something and needs to deal with it".

I can understand that, but I saw it as more that depression isn't something as easy to end with a single moment of triumph.

Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart

Then I will ask that you pay closer attention

Originally Posted by Mcjon01

So if I'm reading this right DP is saying that the feature almost everybody hates that is bad and makes the forum objectively worse will never go away because that would negatively impact another feature that nobody has ever used and most likely never will use just in case someday, someone wants to use it. Is that right?

Originally Posted by You

It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.

Thor's breakdown actually is reasonable, not only because of all the lost that has piled up, but because he screwed up in the heat of the moment, going for revenge by causing pain and not aiming for the head, allowing the first snap to happen. It is one thing if you are powerless to stop something, but another when you have the power, but you fail because of your own reasons.

Despite all this, I'm glad Scott is around since he actually lift the atmosphere and changes the whole mood of the film.

Unrelated to Endgame, I finally got around to watching Into the Spiderverse, and man it was amazing. I'm not gonna debate pros and cons between movies, and perhaps it's futile to try and analyse it, but I just had so much more fun watching it compared to any other Marvel movie I've watched in recent years.

Originally Posted by I3uster

It's like with centaur girls, you're fucking a horse. Sure the human part is the one that moans but your dick is in the horse, no way around it.

The jokes might have been a bit heavy handed but I think it was supposed to tie into the "don't worry about what you or anyone else thinks you SHOULD be just be the best you that you are" arc of his plot this time

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Of course they probably also just wanted to lighten up the movie given how comparatively grim it is and fat jokes are low hanging fruit, so, maybe it's just that after all and I'm giving them too much credit