The thread “Jewish blood line or not ? Zionist and anitisemitism....”
was very detailed and systematic review of the present-days Jews /Zionists origin concluding that number of modern Jews are not ancient Hebrews of Semitic origin but genetically very heterogenous population of Khezr/Khezran orgin.

Evidently some of the modern Jews are offsprings of the idolater Aryan Khezran who appearently turned toward Judaism ( better to say some aspects of false Judaism such as Cabbala and Beth Din) for some reasons.

Like Arthur Koestler, professor of Jewish Medieval History, A. Poliak, in his book Khezriya (published in Hebrew in 1944) claimed that Jews , who lived between Volga river and Caucasus (like Uyghoors,Hoons etc) and inhabitated the ancient Aryan theritory, have been Khezri .
Inhabitants of this theritory lived and promoted hereditary Casts system.

I apsolutelly agree with those that argue we have to make distinction between ancient Hebrews faith (Judaism), that is God’s revealed religion (based on Torah- Scriptures) and “Judaism” that is ethnoreligious phenomenon ( based on Talmud, Beth Din, and, Cabbala) with racial-casteism elements (based on Khezri /Aryan master-race casteism ).

Therefore, this “modern” (false) “Judaism”, unlike original Jewish faith professed by Moses, is neither religion (because most of them are gnostics or atheist) nor nation,
but “cast”, Aryan master-race cast.

You can not become member of the Aryan rulling-cast , as you could not become a Jew.

In my opinion modern “Jewish “ and Zionistic racism and “tale of chosen people” does not stemm from Torah tradition (Old Testamony genuine implications ) but from the Aryan -supremacy ideology of Khezri and their system of Casteism.

Of course some of the Khezri “Jews” (those that became Jews under the Khezran rule, not ancient Hebrew Jews) were rulling cast in this system.

So it is not strange that NWO Cabbalists- Aryan/Khezri “Jewish” elite (that is not biologically or antropologically similar to the ancient Hebrews, at all) consider themselves predestined to rule the world according to the their Aryan origin and belonging to the master –race cast.

But they do not say that it openly or elaborate this issue ,at all (Koestler subtly implied this).

As we see, many people misunderstand the claims of Cabbalistic Jewish elite how they belonge to the “chosen people”, thinking that “Jewish” elite, in this way , allude on their special status in Torah as a “chosen people”.
But this is not true, in my opinion.
Modern Jewish Cabbalistic elite when claim that they are “chosen” acctually imply that they are “Aryan” master-cast.

Khezrian /Aryan pagan and polytheistic religion and mysticism , along with Babylonian religion,astrology, and occultism, Persian Zoroastrianism, dualism and Hellenism (neoplatonism), was stream of so called Ancient Wisdom that had nourished Cabbalistic “Jewish” and European occultism through the illuminati, alchemists and Freemasons of the Middle Ages.

Just one example for discussion –
in my opinion the father of the false “German Aryan race theory” Professor Max Muller just adopted and stupidly adepted (“Germanized”) “Jewish” Khezran- Aryan master-race (rasistic) theory. So the Germans sudenly “became” Aryans although Germans never lived in the craddle of the Aryans

Although the German Nazis, gathered in the occultistic Thul and Vril society and their “military” offsprings Hitler and Himler , indoctrinated by the Khezran , Aryan ,“Jewish” kabbalistic theosophists ( Madame Helena Blavatsky , etc) and other Freemasonic illuminati, openly confronted true faith of ancient Hebrew Jews (based on Divine Scripture -Torah) they tried to revive pagan , Khezran (in part “Jewish”) Aryan culture, symbolism, and mythology that was according to them Primaeval religion of the Aryan race.

Of course Nazis commited genocide only over those Jews , they ,as well as their Cabbalistc mentors regarded “ low-caste” Jews.

Acctually, in my opinion , Nazis, carried out the pernicous plan of their mentors - Cabbalistic, Aryan/Khezran “master-cast” “Jews” to exterminate those Jews that continued to follow only their Divine Scriptures (Torah) and ancient Hebrew tradition ( “low-cast” Jews).

For example, General Karl Haushofer, the director of the Munich Institute of Geopolitics and founder of the Vril Society, who was Hitler's esoteric mentor favored the idea of Dr. Friedrich Krohn to use the "swavastika" as the flag of Nazi Germany. The Swastika is the Sanskrit symbol of solar fire stolen by Prometheus bound to a magical Caucasian rock located in the craddle of Khezran Aryans. The Swastika Sun symbol is a powerful magical device still used in Occult Masonic teachings today.

In conclusion I would say while global Zionists promote political legend – the idea of the
“ Jewish semitic race” and tale of “chosen people” and “hystorical right to Palestine” , their hidden creators, anti-semitists, Cabbalistic Freemasons and “Jewish” Illuminati secretly promote Khezran /Aryan ” Jewish” master-race casteism and consequently their Aryan cast -and -race supremacy.

After all, it is possible that I am totally wrong and my conclusions unreasonable and hystorically unfounded ?!

But this is just my opinion.And I need your feedback.

marypopinz

12-30-2004, 07:23 AM

From what I have read on this site and via this site, I agree with what you are saying.

Strong ring of truth to it.

XXX

john

12-30-2004, 07:29 AM

Everything is here: http://oag.ru/library/hodos/js3-1.html

Most of today`s Jews have probably nothing to do with the ancient so-called "Jewish" (the word didn`t even exist before the middle-age) tribes. Most of the present descendants of these tribes are probably among the Palestinians and the few remaining semitic Jews ("Sepharades"). All this would have no importance other than historical but the so-called "Jewish" bankers and the "Jewish" zionists they have financed exploited the lie of being descendants of Abraham (the legend says that the twelve sons of Abraham founded the twelve tribes as related in the Old Testament) to justify the big bloody hold-up on Palestine.

Some evil people have used and are still using the "Jewish" identity as a shield in their war against humanity. The Palestinian tragedy is only part of this war, the name of the whole war being... New World Order. Of course, they will not win since they are only the dinosaurs of the present spiritual prehistoric age and they will disappear by themselves as the human spirit will continue to evolve. As says Marypopinz: "I believe the future is gonna be bright... somewhere down the road... when the truth comes to light. Peace."

freeman

12-30-2004, 09:57 AM

This is all extremely interesting and very well deconstructed; further, I agree with all of it, but I think the common denominator when one begins to trace the lineage of the NWO is not Judaism, Khezrinism, Zionism or even Aryanism -- it is Satanism at the root core of the phenomenon, just as Springmeier established in his "Bloodlines of the Illuminati".
No other structure fits the model.

lynns_shadow

12-30-2004, 10:02 AM

Agreed freeman :)

john

12-30-2004, 10:10 AM

As says Israel Shamir the NWO is a sort of "cult of globalism, neo-liberalism, destruction of family and nature, anti-spiritual and anti-Christian."

NOTHING to see with the message of Moses, Christ, Mahomet or Buddha, as you see.

Born_To_Die

12-30-2004, 10:30 AM

freeman wrote:
This is all extremely interesting and very well deconstructed; further, I agree with all of it, but I think the common denominator when one begins to trace the lineage of the NWO is not Judaism, Khezrinism, Zionism or even Aryanism -- it is Satanism at the root core of the phenomenon, just as Springmeier established in his "Bloodlines of the Illuminati".
No other structure fits the model.

oye oye I agree my friend freeman

55132

12-30-2004, 11:41 AM

Born_To_Die wrote:

freeman wrote:
This is all extremely interesting and very well deconstructed; further, I agree with all of it, but I think the common denominator when one begins to trace the lineage of the NWO is not Judaism, Khezrinism, Zionism or even Aryanism -- it is Satanism at the root core of the phenomenon, just as Springmeier established in his "Bloodlines of the Illuminati".
No other structure fits the model.

oye oye I agree my friend freeman

Satanism and luciferism is at the core of all the ills. Some of the Isralis that where exiled to Babylon got into this luceferic ism and have kept it via the kabala and the talmud used by the pharesses. But this ideaolgy existed prior to the Israli nation.

After the Roman destruccion of Israel it came to Europe via the jewish exiles and slaves, it mixed with european druidism and paganism and the bloodlines have mixed.

The Talmudic Khazarina jews are a core group of this conspiracy and this cannot be changed.

55132

sablefish

12-30-2004, 01:39 PM

Fact of the matter is Satan wants to kill the Semites, God's bloodline. Isn't it devilish how the Satanics have swiped the identity of their intended victims?.. The bloodline of Abraham is the last impediment to the reign of Lucifer.. By the way, the DNA of the Shepherdess is the same as the Palestinians, and Hebrews, Arabs are closely related.

Somehow Christian Bush supporters are on the side of killing, The bloodline of Christ.. And with the false prophets, like Graham, Falwell and Robertson.. Leading the charge of "Death To Them All"

It's sicko.

Born_To_Die

12-30-2004, 01:52 PM

sablefish wrote:
Fact of the matter is Satan wants to kill the Semites, God's bloodline. Isn't it devilish how the Satanics have swiped the identity of their intended victims?.. The bloodline of Abraham is the last impediment to the reign of Lucifer.. By the way, the DNA of the Shepherdess is the same as the Palestinians, and Hebrews, Arabs are closely related.

Somehow Christian Bush supporters are on the side of killing, The bloodline of Christ.. And with the false prophets, like Graham, Falwell and Robertson.. Leading the charge of "Death To Them All"

It's sicko.

freaken crazzzzy

:-o

DarkChilde3D

12-30-2004, 02:16 PM

Ya know what? The more I look at what these assholes are doing in the echelons, I see less of satan in them, and more of just spoiled little rich-bitches who grew up having their own way, and like it that way. Problem is, if you give a child power, bad shit happens to everyone else. Ever see that twilight zone episode with 'charlie, the boy who could wish anything into existance?' I think that Rod Serling saw something in the system to come up with this.

freeman

12-30-2004, 03:11 PM

Fact of the matter is Satan wants to kill the Semites, God's bloodline. Isn't it devilish how the Satanics have swiped the identity of their intended victims?.. The bloodline of Abraham is the last impediment to the reign of Lucifer..

Yes, that is how I see it.
And this is why everything God does, Satan counterfeits.

freeman

12-30-2004, 03:15 PM

The more I look at what these assholes are doing in the echelons, I see less of satan in them, and more of just spoiled little rich-bitches who grew up having their own way, and like it that way. Problem is, if you give a child power, bad shit happens to everyone else.

Yes, but how many evil, spoiled little rich-bitch children would there be without Satanism?
It was not God's plan for the world to be ruled by demonic global elitists -- or their even more sociopathic progeny.

Institute

12-30-2004, 04:03 PM

Freeman I agree with you- but
as we assume, Satan disguises himself and takes many forms, sometimes It is Occultism, Feminism, Neoplatonism, Fascism,terrorism - sometimes Aryanism,Khezrinism or Panteism, and often is just a man’s lust or envy.

Even in 1996 when medical science had already developed higly sophisticated techniques
to confirm whether donated blood is contamianted with AIDS virus or not
(tests such as ELISA, Northern Blott,Wester Blott)
The Israeli Ministry of Health ,according to AFP/Reuters (Januar,1996), DECIDED TO THROW AWAY OR DESTROY ALL THE BLOOD DONATED BY ETHIOPIAN JEWS.

These 60,000 Ethiopian Jews (Falasha) wre brought to Israel in the early eighties with all the hopes and wisehs of warm reception as the “lost tribe of Israel”.
They were expecting fair and equitable treatment in their “motherland” by their “religious brothers” .
We could claim Aryan/ Khezran racism is “thicker than blood” ,but it is more correct to say that Aryan/Khezran master -cast racism is “thicker then Judaism”.

In defense of this racist Aryan decision,Ephraim Sneh, the Minister of Health, in Israel, proclaimed that
“since Ethiopian Jews came form Africa where AIDS is rampant they were a POPULATION AT HIGH RISK. IT IS MY DUTY TO PROTECT MY FELLOW CITIZENS ”.

As if African Jews blood is to thich,black or dirty to be tested and screened on AIDS.

As the Israeli newspaper Maarif reported ,blood banks all over the country were to follow this Aryan rasistic policy.

In response to this, thousands of Ethiopian Jews violently took the streets shouting and throwing stones ” WE DO NOT WANT TO BE STIGMATISED, STOP JEWISH RACISM” and
“ although our blood is not blue –it is red,not black” .

This obvious and cynical form of Aryan/Khezran racism. You let somebody go through all the physical and psychological difficulties of donating fountain of his life and as he leaves the hospital you throw it away with sarcastic, “Aryan master-race” smile.

marypopinz

12-30-2004, 04:12 PM

Point of note... Canada was giving out blood with hep - c. They didn't screen it becuase it was safely coming from convicts in an alabama jail... so the story goes. People here are still trying to sue and good luck to them. The Canadian government offers no accountability. Suprise, suprise.

XXX

Born_To_Die

12-30-2004, 05:18 PM

marypopinz wrote:
Point of note... Canada was giving out blood with hep - c. They didn't screen it becuase it was safely coming from convicts in an alabama jail... so the story goes. People here are still trying to sue and good luck to them. The Canadian government offers no accountability. Suprise, suprise.

XXX

Mary in the US, people sell their blood (at least

in some states) ... guess

which element of society gives their blood for

money sometimes on almost a daily basis ?

freeman

12-30-2004, 06:59 PM

The Israeli Ministry of Health ,according to AFP/Reuters (Januar,1996), DECIDED TO THROW AWAY OR DESTROY ALL THE BLOOD DONATED BY ETHIOPIAN JEWS.

These 60,000 Ethiopian Jews (Falasha) wre brought to Israel in the early eighties with all the hopes and wisehs of warm reception as the “lost tribe of Israel”.

Whooaa...Were they really just making a racist statement against Ethiopian Jews, or were they afraid of what real genetic testing of available blood samples might indicate? In other words, corroborating your theories of true Jewish lineage.

Exactly and when our government goes directly to a jail where we house people who have been convicted and sentenced for these crimes... what did they expect? I understand what you are saying and I find it doubly infuriating that they didn't even bother to hide behind some sort of facade.

There was no red cross pretenses or clinics with no addresses. They went to the jail to buy the blood. For me, that is the last place I would go to acquire blood to help someone heal in a hospital. It is all so sick to me.

Freeman... i bet your spot on the money, as usual.
pardon the pun.

XXX

eddie

12-31-2004, 03:44 AM

just like to know,
where and in wich book does it say that abraham had twelve sons.i stopt counting at eight in the kjv. :-)

john

12-31-2004, 04:14 AM

You`re right Eddie, I made a mistake. The twelve sons who founded (in the legend) the twelve tribes are sons of Jakob. Jakob was a grandson of Abraham. The twelve sons of Jakob are:

Yes Sablefish, your phrase is resuming everything. The 13th tribe seems to be mankind`s malediction since a long long time... the malediction of the WHOLE mankind.

freeman

12-31-2004, 11:13 AM

It's the thirteenth tribe that is the problem.

I'm not quite following this.
Wasn't the thirteenth tribe derived from dividing Joseph's inheritance into two parts, for both of his sons Manasseh and Ehpraim?
How was that the problem?

john

12-31-2004, 11:32 AM

Freeman, what is called the 13th tribe has nothing to do with Manasseh and Ephraim. It`s not even the Khazars. The 13th tribe is a long and complicated story which has poisoned the whole history since more than two thousand years. A story which is now culminating with the so-called NWO. The ultimate secret indeed.

sablefish

12-31-2004, 02:39 PM

The Thirteenth Tribe (http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/13trindx.htm)

In 1976 Random House published a book that should have hit the Christian Churches like a blockbuster, but instead they chose totally to ignore it. It dealt with the racial origin of the people in Communist and Christian countries who call themselves "Jews," and whom the Churches (and the Jews themselves) generally insist are "God's Chosen People," the Israelite descendants of Abraham. Since the late 1800's a small number of Bible Scholars, who were also students of History and Racial origins, have insisted the Church denominations were wrong; that instead of being Israelites, these Jews from Eastern Europe and Western Asia were descended from Mongolians and other Asiatic peoples who had adopted Judaism as their "religion" over 1,000 years ago and had become know as "Jews." These Bible scholars were ignored or condemned, and often called "cultists" or "anti-Semites."

Now, after many years of research, a well-known Jewish author, Arthur Koestler has published a 255 page book titled THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE

My assumption, based on my studies, is that according to the results of their studies Nazis decided who would be executed (probably “low cast”- Semitic Jews) and who would be spared (Khezran “Jews”) in concentration camps, after Mengele's testing procedure ( it is clear that not all the "Jews" that are reported death in concentration camps are , in fact, killed; and this is also myth).

For example Dr. Franz Kallmann, half -“Jewish” ( who was deeply involved in this combined Aryan/Khezran “Jews” – Nazi project ) created the American Society of Human Genetics, which organized the ``Human Genome Project''--a current $3 billion worth Globalistic effort. Kallmann was a director of the American Eugenics Society in 1952 and from 1954 to 1965.