You can make the point the same way the Gay Marriage thread was able to talk about gays without referring to them as f*gs or h**os or fl***rs. Those words are simply not needed but you can still have a discussion about the topic.

I don't know what makes you say that.... I just gave you an example of how you can have the discussion without getting banned. Get creative about the discussion but don't use the offensive words. It seems like you want to do it your way and your way only, then get mad about it when you get told not to do it that way.

The Gay marriage thread does demonstrate the difficulty some folks having expressive offensive thoughts/thinking without being offensive.

In some cases they might simply lack the language skills or intelligence for this to begin with, or perhaps when one strays over emotional hot button issues some component of otherwise competent writing/thinking skills suffers attrition.

Then there is the situation where some people have outlier opinions and view the world in concrete absolute terms. For them, rational discussion presents perhaps a challenge beyond them.

The Gay marriage thread does demonstrate the difficulty some folks having expressive offensive thoughts/thinking without being offensive.

In some cases they might simply lack the language skills or intelligence for this to begin with, or perhaps when one strays over emotional hot button issues some component of otherwise competent writing/thinking skills suffers attrition.

Then there is the situation where some people have outlier opinions and view the world in concrete absolute terms. For them, rational discussion presents perhaps a challenge beyond them.

And then there are some who really have a problem with gay marriage.
And their emotions take so control of them they have a problem saying what they have to say without revealing their emotions.

They are entitled to their emotions, but they are not entitled to dictate to others on how to live their lives.

Thanks MS -- I think that thread (Gay Marriage) like threads on religion and race are all areas where the choice of language along with the ability to express ones *opinions* with care is important as is the capability of recognizing the distinction between fact and opinion. When folks mix fact and opinion up (and a discussion regarding racism certainly has that potential) then the discussion has a very high potential to get heated.