Friday, March 22, 2013

MMGWTWDTPAKUA! Freezing us.

Yes, Man Made Glowball Warmening That Will Destroy The Planet And Kill Us
All! (MMGWTWDTPAKUA!) has stuck here in Seattle! We. Are. Gonna. DIE! From all
the heat trapped on the ground by the blanket of extreme CO2 emissions from
humans! It is our fault and we deserve to die. Algore tells us so with a new
call for carbon taxes. World governments will take that money and wisely invest
it in green energy companies that will get us off of anything that emits CO2.
Just as BHO has done for us under his wise guidance and leadership. We are so
blessed (in a totally non religious and properly secular sort of way) to have
his wisdom guiding our lives to such a brave new world where nothing emits CO2.
Now, I gotta go stoke up the furnace; it's friggin' cold in this house.

Don't you people understand? Global warming doesn't just cause global warming. It causes global extremes and global moderation. Take any weather event that could possibly exist and that's global warming.

Last decade sometime we had a drought summer. A bad one. No lawn watering. Landscapers went out of business. Ponds and lakes dried up. It was pretty bad. Politicians huddled in dry lake beds with camera crews, promising ACTION! They were gonna dooo something! Legislate! Pass bills! Raise taxes and get Programs up and running.Of course, a real leader would have said, "Yep, pretty dry this year. But just wait. Come fall the rains will come back and everything will be okay. For now, cut back and conserve and we'll pull through."Nobody said that, of course, but we did conserve like crazy. Doesn't take a lot of water to make an espresso. Oddly, though, our water rates all went up! Seems that as a regulated utility, the water works is guaranteed a certain level of income, so as water use plummeted, so did the income. Had to right that, so up went the rates. Supply was low, demand was low, and the price went up. With no hearings.And, sure enough, that October we had a Pineapple Express - an atmospherical river of water streaming from Hawaii to Oregon and Washington - that dropped rain on us for months with no let up. People were bitching; even the Seattle Times had stories about avoiding cabin fever.Climate change, indeed.

Rickvid,That was a great summer. Wish we could have another like it. When you look at satellite photos of your Pineapple Express, look where it is headed. Yup straight at me. I was talking with some chamber folks last month. I was suggesting a slogan for an October festival here in Ketchikan. I suggested we say, Why spend a year in Seattle, we can get you that much rain in a Ketchikan October.

Are you aware at all of glaciers melting? In Glacier National Park alone it is down to a paltry few glaciers. Too bad republicans aren't smart enough to listen to anything other than right wing misinformation.

Anonymous, The Glacier Bay glaciers have been melting for thousands of years. The land around Gustavus continues to rise due to the reduced weight as it has for all of the recorded history of the area. The odd thing about all those reports about the melting polar ice caps, they usually fail to mention that the ones on Mars were melting too.Isn't it time you quit listening to all that left wing propaganda, not to mention outright lies, of the left.

I just saw a story about a naturalist who had gone camping on the island of Spitzbergen thirty or forty years ago. He and his companions had slept in tents.He recently made a nostalgia return visit to the same place he had been all those years ago. Guess what, it was no longer possible to sleep in tents because of ALL THE POLAR BEARS.

Oh, CrabbyOldMan, I see your argument supports climate change, acknowledging the fact that the polar bears can no longer migrate their normal route due to ice melting and now they have to stay on the main land to find food. Before they would cross over the frozen tundra to find food and go back down south in the winter, which is why, now, they remain in Spitsbergen, among all the campers in tents.

Wrong Anonymous, Your quote: "the polar ice caps are melting at an alarming rate" is also wrong. I am not alarmed. The North Pole ice shrinks and THE SOUTH POLE ICE GROWS as NASA reports! Idiot! The Glacier Bay glaciers, retreat, and the Himalayan glaciers—grow!You are so caught up in the leftist shit, you don’t even do your own research; you just accept the crap as truth.

Also, Anonymous, I can't hunt the polar bears anymore either. Damn, I did so want a nice polar bear rug. Unfortuately not even the natives can make rugs anymore out of the hide. They have to make it into gloves and other essentials.

Wow, the Glaciers that have been melting for thousands of years are still melting. Whoopty-do. They're growing in the Himalayas.

So to re-cap. Glaciers that have been growing still are, Glaciers that have been melting still are.

Check.

"Climate Change" is an oxymoron. The Earth's climate is not a constant. If has bee both far warmer and far cooler on this planet long, LONG before human beings ever existed. The problem is "environmentalists" have turned environmentalisminto a religion. Get your damn god off my body you left wing religious fanatics. These people are counter-industrial revolutionaries. They're Luddites. They're fuck'n crazy.

In reply to Haverwilde and Free0352: they may have been melting for thousands of years, but the problem is in the rate of acceleration. The 1992 Model of Glacier National Park was for 2030. The temperatures in the area have risen twice as fast and the model has been updated for now to 2020. The Himalayas have lost one third of their snow and major glaciers have disappeared from the Andes. In Antarctica the glaciers were flowing 12% faster in 2003 than ten years prior. As for the polar bear, it is facing challenges in the Arctic Region with temperature changes 2 - 2.5 times faster than global averages. They are migrating and it may be why one replier said they saw more than usual in Spitzbergen. However, that region already has one of the largest polar bear populations. When you are all up to your eyeballs in seawater, which is expected to rise, make sure you hold your radios over your heads so the right wing commentators can tell you what to think.

I have never been on this blog. I thought everyone was "conservative". What is with all the foul language? I know most conservatives don't really act conservatively so I suppose this is one reason. Some comments like "left wing religious fanatics" do not make any sense. Why not speak without resorting to bad language--that is what God would want.

Chessy,"Some comments like "left wing religious fanatics" do not make any sense."Why not, it is a religion, the left takes all the propaganda on faith and then spouts it back out. They want to evangelize America into their socialist fascist dream world. (You seem quite well evangelized: you spout the gibberish about rising seas. When no noticeable rise has taken place and the best guess puts it at 2mm per year. In other words at that rate in a thousand years the water will be 7 feet higher. But then along comes the increase in the Himalayan glaciers and some scientist suggest the seas might fall because of it. Climate change is always happening. Some indicators suggest we are headed into a cooling period.)

"Why not speak without resorting to bad language" Just dealing with the lying, corrupt left in the only sane way possible. The left is actively destroying the economic engine that was America. It is damaging the middle class. Should I just say “Naughty, naughty leftists, you shouldn’t do that.” No, the Left is Fucking and Destroying America!

And in case you didn’t figure it out already, there is nothing particularly conservative about me. I want change, and lots of it—beginning with our current administration and 95% of the elected governments, both national and state.

I thought everyone was "conservative". What is with all the foul language? I know most conservatives don't really act conservatively so I suppose this is one reason. Some comments like "left wing religious fanatics" do not make any sense. Why not speak without resorting to bad language--that is what God would want.

First off, I'm not a Conservative. I'm a Libertarian. Since Environmentalism is the liberal religion - all based on faith - they're fanatics. It makes perfect fuck'n sense. Oh, and I'm an atheist. I don't believe in God, so I' don't give a shit what he would want.

Good luck Chessmom, unless these people hear it from the drugster Limbaugh, they will never believe it. They don't believe in facts, which is why they all voted for Romney. They wanted another moron who would start another made-up war. Obamacare that helps thousands = bad for America....Bush/cheney wars that will haunt America for decades = good for America! If they all vote against their own best interest, how can we expect them to care about polar bears?!

Yes, the talking head multi-millionaires have taught them to be very angry, and they use expletives often because of their deep frustrations. You are right, they cannot care about an animal's survival when their own is so tenuous. They don't see that their self-interests are not the same as the politicians and media personalities who have some how convinced them that they are. I might feel this way too if I listened to the hate filled propaganda they do but in turn had no way to filter it or check competing sources to get the whole picture. They live in a kind of hell of their own choosing.

Yes, climate changes. Of course. We will all agree that the climate changes. We are talking about how certain climate changes affect us and the rate of change. Currently, majority glaciers in the (30 year) studied area are observed to be shrinking rapidly. Currently losing 1-2 feet of thickness per year. Increased precipitation could increase other glaciers for now. The climate is expected to get wetter as it gets warmer. Precipitation will then increase which could keep them around longer than initial 2035. If temps rise to point of decreasing precipitation than they could shrink rapidly.

It would be good if some of the climate changes are manmade. In that way man may be able to come up with solutions that could possibly slow down some changes we possibly have some control over. Maybe. That's what's nice about science. Researchers study problems and also look for possible solutions. Too bad this problem has been so politicized it is often difficult for people to have a reasonable discussion. Also, don't you feel better for answering without resorting to swearing? You sounded more reasonable and nicer even if we disagree.

No one in government is doing a cost-benefit analysis of any action. The cost to reduce CO2 is extraordinarily expensive, and has almost no benefit. Yes the climate was warming, trend analysis identified that it was true until about 2004, current date suggest we are now at approximately the same spot we were in 1998. But that is globally, with lots of local variations. That is why the South pole seems to be cooling much more rapidly than the north pole.To destroy our economy and our way of life without understanding the reality is pure craziness. It is all part of that leftist religion.

There is no problem on this site being reasonable in a discussion so long as the other party chooses to talk and not troll, or be condescending..

I cannot see where there is a basis for what you are saying. Finding ways to change emission output is not going to destroy our economy. Looking for solutions to complex problems doesn't mean destruction of our way of life. What you wrote about 1998 is not correct. We are reading different material on cooling trends so we will have to leave it at that. One could call any subject people are interested in a religion if they choose to use the word, but it doesn't make it correct to do so.

It is not condescending to ask people to discuss subjects reasonably without using expletives. Also, for those using expletives in their answers it diminishes their arguments. I don't understand the meaning of troll in this context. Does it mean I should not be on this site commenting because people want to left to their own way of thinking with others who think similarly?

Notice I said CO2, not emissions. We run on a carbon based energy system. Reducing ash, volatile emissions, SO2, and other emissions contributes to a healthier environment. Are there ways to reduce the dependence on carbon based energy? Yes! But the principal ones are hydro and nuclear. The left has demonized both of these energy sources. Just here in Southeast Alaska, we have more potential hydro power than any other state in the Union (except perhaps Washington State). Yet it is nearly impossible to build hydro-electric plants—10+ years for permits, no roads may be built, federal regulations double the cost.So in order to reduce our use of electricity, and to avoid burning diesel, what does government recommend local citizens do for energy—burn bio mass fuels—wood chips, wood pellets, firewood.Folks may take exception to my comment about the left being a religion, but in so many ideological positions the left takes a view and takes action based on “the essence of things being hoped, the evidence of things not having been seen.”

I am both engaging in a conversation and wanting a response. I have read many of the comments on this blog. The conversations seems to be mainly people eliciting responses using coarse language and not what one would call high minded dialogue through polite conversation. I was shocked what I read about captioning a picture of Mrs. Obama and a baby. I got the feeling that people are wanting a reaction alright, but they are looking for affirmation from others who act, talk and think like themselves. It is not doing them any good, really, because they cannot see how coarsely they are behaving because there is little to no counterbalance.

Hydro-electric controls flooding but it is problematic in the long term and creates long-term problems. Yes, environmental long term problems. Many people do not want to look at a situation from the long view but it sometimes has to be done. I would think some Alaskans would want to look at environmental ramifications from a long term perspective. There is a lot to lose there. Not just for Alaskans but for all of us.

Interesting comment about idealogical views of liberals. I won't state the obvious about how republicans and the right use their idealogical positions. And, yes, libertarians, too.

ChessmomSis:I read this blog and Powerline. That blog is operated by some Minneapolis lawyers. This is the source of many of my opinions. I probably agree with what is there 80% of the time.Go here: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/category/climate You will find the rational support for much of what leads me to agree with Free0352’s camp. I strongly agree that the climate catastrophe crowd is motivated by the first cousin of religious faith rather than facts and logic. The remainder of my skepticism stems from the fact that I remember a few other fads that have come and gone.Do you remember the population crisis? The coming ice age? The danger from eating eggs? The nuclear winter? All life on earth being eliminated if there were a major nuclear exchange (a particular danger as long as the USSR was behind in that arms race). Racial disparities disappearing if only the schools were integrated? Japan becoming the world’s dominant economic force? Africa’s problems going away if only colonial rule were eliminated? Our public education becoming as good as the best of that of the rest of the world if only we got the Federal Government involved so that the schools would be adequately funded?

Chessy,"Hydro-electric controls flooding but it is problematic in the long term and creates long-term problems. Yes, environmental long term problems."

What environmental problems?

It changes the local environment, just as any natural dam would; but that is not a problem.I live in a temporate rain forest. We get 13 to 16 feet of rain a year. The primary potential for hydro here has nothing to do with flooding. It never floods, or conversely it always floods depending on your world view. The potential for power comes from high lakes, without migratory fish.

Political leaders telling us we would face a mushroom cloud if we didn't invade a country that (didn't) possessed a nuclear arsenal. Yes, I understand your point...

Since I don't know the Minneapolis lawyers to whom you refer or their blog, I can't make a judgment about the veracity of your sources. If this blog is any indication about how you gather information, I have my doubts.

Reply to Haverwilde: There have always been environmental concerns regarding hydro-electric. It can effect the rivers and streams. It's a whole ecosystem. You cannot look at one area alone. It's obviously an economic concern as well. Why is there an emphasis on quoting back what's been said? I will remember what I wrote, and I assume others can look above for the original source.

And you are correct about many on the right making a religion out of their politics (or politics out of their religion).

I would disagree about libertarians. Of the libertarians that I know, out of 100 of them there are 101 different versions. The nice thing about most libertarians is they tend to think and reason out their positions—although some do rely on Ann Rand as their ‘go to’ guru.

I find myself in a political position that is most closely defined as “Classic Liberalism”—Liberty based, fiscally conservative, socially liberal, with more faith in a market economy even with its flaws then with the current federally regulated economy.

I view George Bush as a disaster, Bill Clinton as a disgrace, and Barack Obama as the most corrupt president in modern American history.

RE: Finding ways to change emission output is not going to destroy our economy. Looking for solutions to complex problems doesn't mean destruction of our way of life.ChessmomSis, it all depends upon WHO is doing it over what period of time.First of all, I don't want the Chicagocrats controlling ANY public money because so much of it ends up in their friend’s pockets, without regard to effectiveness. Secondly, because it is driven by ideology, the Messiah and His Disciples are doing the equivalent of dumping huge amounts of the remainder of the taxpayer’s money into the Wright brothers lap and telling them so set up transoceanic box kite passenger service.

Haverwilde: You probably are bored by comments that don't involve vulgarness. It goes without saying you don't have to respond to comments. Stating that hyrdro electric effects rivers and streams is specific; you asked for an environmental concern. It is as specific as many comments I've read. And more accurate.

As for Crabby old man: If you are unable to see any of the same defects on the side that you support, especially concerning pocketing of monies, I don't know if there is any reason to discuss. Besides, half of what you have written does not seem to make any sense, making it impossible to respond. And seriously, I don't need quotes of my text repeated back.

ChessmomSis:Did you actually read any of the articles? Your global warming enlightenment would be the cumulative result of reading lots of them.

I have no problem with "foul" language. I am an admirer of Mark Twain, a very witty person, who described people as either "swearing with great artistry" or "swearing with no artistry at all".

RE: Political leaders telling us we would face a mushroom cloud if we didn't invade a country that (didn't) possessed a nuclear arsenal. Yes, I understand your point...

I think it correct that there were no nukes. I think it a matter of Sadam Hussein taking a gamble and bluffing well enough to fool everyone and then losing the bet because of the unintended consequences. That said, anyone who thinks that we could have lived with Sadam is beyond being a fool.

As general matters, in the interest of perspective, we need to keep in mind: (i) that something like 95% of all the species that have ever existed on this planet are extinct, (ii) the climate and the makeup of the atmosphere have varied widely over a very long time without the world ending, and (iii) the human race has suffered greatly at the hands of those trying to “improve” it.

ChessmomSis, I repeat back the text to make it convenient to those who skim this site. I think that is why the others do too.You will not find an instance of me saying that there are no Republican thieves. It is my position that the Democrats, particularly the Chicagocrats are by very far the worst. The big city Democrat machines have been horribly corrupt since the Irish immigration of the 1840s, and have kept entrenched via by subsequent waves of underclass immigrants who do not care how much the politicians steal.I absolutely agree with the argument that it is inevitable that the more power (and hence money) that the government has, the more corrupt it will be. That is why I favor the smallest possible federal government having checks and balances, coupled with strong state governments, as a means of limiting the damage when things do go wrong.

To free0352: I realize your swearing is a way to feel like your tough. However, others can see through this mask and know that your swearing is a defensive mechanism for the fear that is underneath the surface.

To Crabby Old Man: I would focus less on Chicago and really watch how the right wing media and politicians are ruining our country. Again, your argument about the entrenchment of lower classes not caring about government corruption does not make much sense. And I don't know what articles you are referring to.

Why should we have a weakened federal government? . After all, the government is "we the people"--it is ours. That is a Tea Party/corporate idea where the multi-national companies want the American people defenseless against their corruption. I will take my chances with the government where you might have some recourse. I don't fear my government, like right wing radio is always telling its listeners, even though I'm the one described as wimpy.

I know you have no problem using foul language. It just doesn't add anything to the argument. I'll describe it like Twain, "with no artistry at all."

Please don't bother with the republican argument that everyone was fooled on whether there were weapons. There is too much information available on the subject. This is simply a right wing lie repeated over and over again on their networks.

Haverwilde: You are on this blog and you are talking about substance in issues. Interesting. My comments were more substantive than what is on this sight. Swearing at the Obamas and calling them names is not being substantive on issues. You must be tired because you have resorted back to using the "F" word. And you were doing so well!

Red Neck: I haven't corresponded with you before! They are coming out of the woodwork as they say. Everyone seems to feel I am trespassing on this site. It seems the bloggers here are very territorial and touchy if they aren't agreed with. It makes sense or why else would you be on this site all the time if not to get some affirmation from others who are thinking the same way.

chessmomSis:I think that you might be related to Nit.I think that you are delusional.Depending upon how old that you are, I think that you are either a leftover 1960s member of “the new left” or the child of 1960s radicals or perhaps a flower child wanna be.There were many middle class kids in the 1960s (my generation) who suddenly found out there was no Santa Clause and just couldn’t handle it. Unfortunately, a lot of that pathology has found its way into the following generations.

Dear Crabby Old Man: No, I am not related to "Nit". You have rambled in a lot of your comments, yet you are calling me delusional. Hmmm. I am much younger than what you have me pegged. Please; conservatives today are the hippies of yesterday. Both were and are out for themselves. Republicans are the left over radicals of the past. They are the ones who used or are using drugs to keep themselves from reality and are against the government. It never changes. (See Limbaugh, Rush).

I know many older 60s types around here and hear them on the radio, web, tv. Many masquerade as conservatives now, but have the very same liberal behaviors in their private lives as in their youth. In other words, they act like everyone else but they try to hide it. Our country is awash with them. They screech and preach to us from the airwaves about conservatism but rarely practice it. Their listeners are the same.

Sorry, but you are not very good at reading between the lines. I'm not sure you should bring up pathological behavior given some of the comments you have written. Nice chatting with you, COM.

yup foks. No doubt about it. That troll just loves to dish out all that standard leftist shit, just to see if you react. "Right Wing Media" 'Rush' drugs, just about anything to get you to react. Well, (s)he is an asswipe of the first order, hasn't said a substantive thing since (s)he logged on. Ignore he/she/it there will be no reasonable discussion. There were plenty of opportunities and it blew every one. Folks here tried to engage it, but got no reasonable response. So for the good of all it should just FOAD, or at least continue sucking the Obama dick and ensuring its future slavery.

Yes, Red Neck, you are very reasonable and substantive. You may want to read (if able) back what you and others have been writing. I've read the blog; everyone is swearing up a storm at the Obamas and getting no where fast. Commentors are using all kinds of right wing cliches. The right wing media complex has you all spinning in circles and obviously very, very upset. I would rather suffer tyranny with the Obamas than freedom with this kind of adolescent, and quite frankly, psychotic behavior. There is nothing wrong with knowing the standard information on republicans such as Limbaugh. It puts his hypocritical stances in perspective. Nice chatting with you all! Try to calm down. Maybe talk with a professional counselor. I'll close the door now on my way out. Others probably shouldn't see this as you are all quite the motley crew!

Crabbyold man thinks you are related to "nit" or Nate because Nate is a long time poster on this blog and, like you, gives rational answers based on facts. They don't know how to respond to you because they can't understand what you are saying so they resort to name calling.

Enemas, Nit wouldn't know what rationality or facts are if you nailed them to his forehead. ChessmomSis wouldn't either.The big giveaway is that she seems to be fixated on the "right wing media complex" and Rush Limbaugh. Insecure head cases apparently go ballistic if anything threatens their false version of reality. I say again that the nearer one is to the truth, the madder they get.

When the introductory paragraph to an article provides not one, but TWO provable falsehoods ("there's a cadre of Tea Party Republicans blocking most meaningful Federal legislation" and "These ultra-conservatives are intent on dismantling the federal government"), it's kinda hard to believe ANYTHING that follows.

Thank you for such an illustrative glimpse into the 'mind' of a Leftist. It proves the point nicely.

Intelligent and capable of independent thought? I agree. Taht IS what to what you were referring, wasn't it?

and sadly, there's nothing you can do about it.

Well, I can either subject myself to indoctrination (or, as it was once called, 're-education') at an institute of 'higher learning', or I could get a lobotomy. Then I might agree with your premise.

Maybe you can try to not be so fearful and paranoid though.

You are the glowball warmening alarmist, and I'm the one who is "fearful and paranoid"? The irony is thick enough to cut with a chainsaw (electric chainsaw; wouldn't want any pollution to harm Mother Gaia, now.)

You are alarmed and paranoid about a president that thinks the insurance companies shouldn't control your health.

You don't even get an 'A' for effort. WHERE did I post that I am "alarmed and paranoid about a president that thinks the insurance companies shouldn't control your health."?

Buehller? Buehlle... oh, fuck it.

The entirety of my statement was that Your little push-poll of an article was fallacious when it starts with two obvious falsehoods. I said NOTHING about zer0bama's takeover of 1/6th of the American economy.

I hope you buy your stupid in economy-sized 55-gallon drums, as otherwise you would go broke too quickly, with as much as you use.

"If you have an advanced degree, I would think about a lawsuit to recoup what were certainly wasted tuition fees." This should come in handy for the Bush Clan, they are wealthy so therefore are entitled to lawsuits.

Roboto: I can recognize tongue and cheek comments. Your comment was made out of ignorance thinking only a fueled chainsaw and not an electric one would cause pollution. You just are too embarrassed to admit it. I don't have to think what you might mean. I read what you wrote, and I understood you perfectly. (PS thanks for adding the "duh".)

Also, Obama's health care plan does not "take over the health care industry." It actually creates more business for private health care insurers. Now I know you are going to write back and say this isn't true. You have to get your nose out of the republican talking points you get off the internet. YOU MUST go to other, multiple sources of information. Otherwise, you come off as being not very intelligent.

I'll await yours and COM's replies. (He always has to get in on every conversation.)

I can recognize tongue and cheek comments.If you can recognize tongue IN cheek comments, why could you not understand MINE? It wasn’t overly complicated.

Your comment was made out of ignorance thinking only a fueled chainsaw and not an electric one would cause pollution.Good to see that your powers of prognostication are as accurate as your powers of comprehension. (That was tongue-IN-cheek, they are both non-existent.)

I don't have to think what you might mean.If you meant to type that you aren’t capable of understanding what I mean, it would be more accurate.

PS thanks for adding the "duh".I didn’t add anything, I cut-and-pasted. YOU added the ‘duh’. I guess if I can’t expect to understand what I wrote, I shouldn’t expect you to remember what YOU wrote.

Also, Obama's health care plan does not "take over the health care industry."Is it, or is it not, government controlling whether people MUST purchase a product? It IS? That is my definition of ‘taking over’, skippy. Also, I NEVER wrote ‘take over the health care industry’, I wrote “takeover of 1/6th of the American economy”. If you’re going to paraphrase, you DON’T use quotation marks (These thingies:”). Just a pointer…

It actually creates more business for private health care insurers.It actually forces individuals to purchase a service. Business at the point of a gun is NOT ‘creation’. No matter HOW hard you wish it was.

Now I know you are going to write back and say this isn't true.I have no need. Anyone with an IQ above warm spit know it to be ‘not true’.

You have to get your nose out of the republican talking points you get off the internet.Being preached over about ‘talking points’ from someone who still parrots AlGore is truly hilarious.

YOU MUST go to other, multiple sources of information. Otherwise, you come off as being not very intelligent.It depends upon quality, not quantity. I would guess that your chief sources are MSLSD, the HuffingPaint Post, and Comedy Central. And you DID get one thing right. I makes you look like you’re not the sharpest tack in the box.

Roboto: Don't get so testy. I was just complimenting you on keeping "duh" in there. You could have just as easily cut and pasted that right out of there. That was pretty big of you. I would love to keep going around and around with you but you are exhausting and you seem kind of mad.

By 1/6 of the economy were you not referring to the 1/6 dealing with the health care industry? What 1/6 are you referring to then ? I certainly can see where you are qualified to give grammar lessons. Some of your sentences are not complete ones. I won't mention which ones. Although, one has to have complete thoughts, usually, to create complete sentences.

You really shouldn't be so mad just because I said you don't know that making electricity causes pollution, too. You just didn't know.

I don't know what MSLSD is. I'll just assume its more republican attempt at humor using the same words they say over and over to each other and then laugh hysterically at.

I thought republicans liked things at the point of a gun. Interesting. The plan creates more business for private insurance companies. I'm not sure why that is making you upset.

By the way, Al Gore is two separate names. He has a first name and a last name. It is not one name.

There is no quality to republican talking points. It starts with bad information to misinform uninformed dupes like yourself and then it goes out to other republican sources and gets recycled and repeated. See, republicans are earth friendly; they like to recycle their trash talking points to each other.

One more thing and then lights out for you, Roboto: No Bush has ever been a Supreme Court Justice. Supreme idiot, maybe, but not a Supreme Court Justice. They are wealthy, yes, but how many political positions do you think they are supposed to buy?

As for two senators: Prescott Bush was a one-term senator. His son, George, was appointed senator. However, then father like son, the voters said, "out you go" to both. Two one-term senators. Then, Reagan was forced to take George as his vice president. Afterwards, George got his chance at the presidency. Alas, the voters, again, said, "out you go".

Of course, it was easy for the family to buy governorships. They aren't that expensive. Especially in oil rich Texas where the Bushes, well-known east coast carpetbaggers, were helped by, and gave much assistance to as bought-and-paid-for-politicians to the oil companies.

You know the rest; the Bush's bought their ne'er-do-well son the presidency with the help of the Supreme Court (no Bushes, though). In turn, he gave this country a war based on lies so Bush could feel manly for once in his life and, of course war profiteering for his family. Money is always the main goal for that horrible money-grubbing family.

You shouldn't be so hard on others who don't lie, cheat and steal and have regard for human life if they don't appear to be as "successful" as that low-life "anything for a dollar" family. A Higher Power will adjudicate their success.

That was pretty big of you. Not really. It was actually a slam at your use of the word.

By 1/6 of the economy were you not referring to the 1/6 dealing with the health care industry? Of course I was. I said that you should not put in quotation marks that which I did not say. It seemed to be self-explanatory.

You really shouldn't be so mad just because I said you don't know that making electricity causes pollution, too. You just didn't know. You have already been told ONCE that it was an attempt at sarcasm apparently directed towards a humorless individual. If you keep saying it, you do NOT have ignorance as an excuse.

I thought republicans liked things at the point of a gun. No, you did NOT “[thought] republicans[sic] liked things at the point of a gun” (See how I did that? I took your direct quote and changed, in [square quotes], word tenses to make it grammatically correct.) You BELIEVED it. Not the same thing. Can you tell the difference?

By the way, Al Gore is two separate names. He has a first name and a last name. It is not one name. I am aware of that.Humor. It’s not just for breakfast anymore.

There is no quality to republican talking points. It starts with bad information to misinform uninformed dupes like yourself and then it goes out to other republican sources and gets recycled and repeated. See, republicans are earth friendly; they like to recycle their trash talking points to each other. I wouldn’t know, I’m not a Republican. I am a constitutional conservative. I wish I could be a Republican, but they’ve slid so far to the left that only a committed Leftist could think them ‘right-wing’.

Now, go take a nap. You are very cranky.I think I will hit the sack. Trying to educate those incapable of learning is tiring.

One more thing and then lights out for you, Roboto: No Bush has ever been a Supreme Court Justice. Supreme idiot, maybe, but not a Supreme Court Justice. David Davis, Associate Justice of the United States Supreme Court(1862-1877), first cousin three times removed to George H.W. Bush, and first cousin four times removed to George W. Bush.http://www.wargs.com/political/bush.html

How hard is Google to use? Or is that not a valid source? It wasn’t on Comedy Central, after all.

But, don't worry, it's not common knowledge. Even though you should investigate before you call the intelligence of someone else into question.

You know republicans are disgusting critters. The only things more disgusting are dung beetles, and democrats but I repeat myself.I wish I could support any group that opposed this current corrupt administration. But the statist GOP I just can’t support. What a bunch of losers. With the odd Rand thrown in to confuse me.Roberto, Free, and COM, are really basically good honest folk. Now you know a dishonest asshole when he uses the Anonymous moniker.

Moniker is such an odd word. Maybe I confused that word with Monica. That was the name of the most notorious person sucking democratic cock. Yah, that fits.

Roboto: You have got me. A cousin three times and four times removed. Yes, that does show how successful the Bush family is. Oh, well. We won't argue about distant ancestry sense it makes you feel better. I will Google it. Republicans are well known for imparting incorrect information. The idiot part still stands. It sounds like you are obsessed with Comedy Central. Does Jon Stewart's fake news broadcast get under your skin?

Your correction of my sentence makes no sense. Are you sure you made it grammatically correct? If you do, I hope your income does not depend on writing skills.

Many republicans have changed calling themselves just conservative because they all know they have the same liberal behaviors as anyone else.

And Red Neck is just too strange to comment on.

It's interesting that there were no challenges to how awful and money-grubbing the Bush family is.

Republicans are well known for imparting incorrect information."My fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize," - Hank Johnson, DEMOCRAT"I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base." - Hillary Clinton, DEMOCRAT"They're going to put y'all back in chains." - Joe Biden, DEMOCRAT"I've now been in 57 states - I think one left to go." - Barack 0bama, DEMOCRAT"It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." - Barack 0bama, DEMOCRAT"I'm going to say this again: I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time; never. These allegations are false." - Bill Clinton, DEMOCRAT"We have to pass the (health care) bill so you can find out what is in it." - Nancy Pelosi, DEMOCRATI can go on all day. It looks that you MIGHT have a point if you replaced "Republicans" in your screed with "Democrats". For an accurate quote, try this: “The Devil was the first Democrat” - Lord Byron

We won't argue about distant ancestry sense[sic] it makes you feel better... I hope your income does not depend on writing skills.I'll let that little tidbit out there for all to taste the hypocrisy.

It sounds like you are obsessed with Comedy Central.I'm obsessed with Lefties using it as their primary, if not exclusive, source of information. It's pretty easy to tell such people, they tend to repeat talking points such as that the Bush family is evil.

Many republicans have changed calling themselves just conservative because they all know they have the same liberal behaviors as anyone else.What? Talk about "just too strange to comment on"

It's interesting that there were no challenges to how awful and money-grubbing the Bush family is.

I'm not defending the Bush family (Supreme Court Justices or not), I'm defending the truth from your attempts to rewrite it.

Enemas:I have never tried to claim that there are not now or ever have been incompetents, thieves and buffoons among the political right. There most certainly has. However, comparing the political right to the political left in this regard is like comparing a loiterer to a bank robber. Who controls the most corrupt and worst managed cities? Who controls the most corrupt and worst managed states? Who do those exemplars of honesty, the big unions support? Since all political power, which involves the ability to spend other people’s money, is corrupting, the only way to minimize that corruption is to minimize the size of government generally. The conservatives favor smaller government, and the leftards see larger and more intrusive government as a religious vision to be pursued by any method at any cost.

Roboto: I'm not sure where to start because your ideas and writing are so convoluted. I will attempt to unravel your thinking(?) but it's going to take some doing. First, try to remember way back when you corrected my correct sentence. It was a correct sentence, and then you thought you were a grammarian and corrected a sentence that did not need it. Now I know you were trying to feel smart after not realizing that making electricity can cause pollution. So, you compensated for that gaffe by saying you were just kidding and then corrected my sentence that did not need correcting.

My correlation between your writing skills and income was based on your correcting a correct sentence. So there is no hypocrisy. You were the one correcting a sentence unnecessarily. Even if I do not fix a mistake in an unedited paragraph at 6:00 a.m., it doesn't matter. Obviously, my arguments are the more sustainable ones and that's why you are looking for spelling mistakes. If you did that with your fellow republican bloggers, from what I can see, corrections would be an all day event. I'm sorry you feel badly about what you said about electricity. I'm sure there are others who don't know how electricity is generated. Try to think of actual points to argue.

Now, to some actual hair-raising quotes that are not trivial such as someone's personal life or made by an obscure congressman. They are of a much more serious nature by cowards who are chicken-hawks who did not care about human life. You know how republicans are always talking about the sanctity of human life? These quotes are not just incorrect; they are intentional lies with serious consequences by republican leaders who just wanted to profit off of other people's misery.

"We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud." Con. Rice "It's a slam dunk case." George Tenet CIA Director, 1"We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Bagdad and east and west, south and north somewhat." D. Rumsfeld "We found the weapons of mass destruction." GWBush "My answer is bring 'em on." GWBush (challenging militants attacking U.S. forces in Iraq: said from somewhere personally safe for him)."Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the US and our allies have prevailed. GWBush under "Mission Accomplished Banner"I think they're in the last throws, if you will, of the insurgency." Dick Cheney"My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators." Dick Cheney

Do you see the difference in the democratic and republican quotes.? Do you see the difference between what you pay attention to as opposed to what you should be paying attention to?

Now, I know you will tell me that none of this is correct and really wasn't said. When you expose a typo, I will know you just do not have a republican talking point that can hold up to scrutiny.

But, a parting shot, since you seem to be obsessed with Iraq:"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."-Bill Clinton"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."-Bill Clinton"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."-Madeline Albright"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."-Sandy Berger"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."-Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -Rep. Nancy Pelosi"Hussein has... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." -- Madeline Albright"There is no doubt that... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."-Bob Graham, and others"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."-Carl Levin

Roberto:I say elsewhere that Enemas takes a lot of space to say very little, and of that very little, nothing is ever a logical conclusion based upon actual facts. I go on to say that he belongs to that group of dolts, clods and imbeciles who it is better to just ignore.

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."-Al Gore"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."-Al Gore"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."-Ted Kennedy"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."-Robert Byrd"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."-John Kerry"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."-Jay Rockefeller"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"-Henry Waxman"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."-Hillary Clinton"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."-Bob Graham"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."- John Kerry

Roboto: Why don't you man up for once and admit that you did not realize that producing electricity causes pollution?

See you ARE able to think for yourself--I wasn't sure--and you learned a new skill set as well; to do research and to quote things that matter. It took you some time, but you were able to get away from the trivial like Bill Clinton's love life. You were forced today to do some research and to look at politics not from the mundane, stupid issues that Rush, Hannity, O'Reilly and the rest of Fox have taught you to focus on but the substantive issues like what you quoted--what was actually said on the Senate floor and by other leaders during the build up to the war. Now that you know more about looking things up for yourself, you can now research in what context quotes were said. Maybe it will open a whole new world for you outside of republican talking points, and you will blossom into a real human with your own thoughts. You have come a long way! Don't stop now! You might even be able to help your friends on this blog.

You even looked up some Latin. Good for you!

CRABS: Please stop repeating what others have said to you. Do you not have any original thoughts? I'm not surprised that you want to ignore conflicting information from what's going on in that uncharted territory between your ears (do not repeat: copyrighted material). I realize you think Zelda is a deep and thoughtful thinker more to your liking. By the way, bashing the Obamas is not exactly an intellectual pursuit worthy of unlimited sentences. I've read enough superfluous posts on this site to know what you are used to reading. ONE WORD: OBTUSE. There, I gave you a new word that you will repeat over and over again.

P.S. You really DO get in on every conversation. Are you the Blonde Sagacity gadfly?

It is so sad what republicans view as facts and logic. Too many years of right wing radio telling them what to think, I suppose. You can keep saying you were being sarcastic about not knowing that producing electricity causes pollution, but you know that is far from the truth. Do any of you ever write an original thought or do you just keep recycling your same cliches?

Looking up language phrases on Google may make you feel scholarly in the distant hope you can feel intelligent, but everyone can see through that.

As for Zelda, queen of the blog: correspondence school does not count as college and you know you had to Google what you lamely wrote. Neither of you is fooling anyone. One only has to be on this site a few minutes to see who is the bitter person. Another blogger told me your husband is a chiropractor. Tell me you are not bitter he isn't a real doctor. Also, the incredibly ignorant comments about Michelle Obama and the President are signs that you all have weak minds--perfect vessels for the republican party to pour its pollution into and then have it spew from your large mouths. Just your foul language alone lets people in on your demented thought processes. Please, God, tell me these people have not procreated.

Hey Roboto - want to see something funny? I'm going to talk about the Kim Family of North Korea and Government McLogic here is going to talk about how she would prefer them to Bush/Cheney. Because she's smart.

Enemas is the last person who should criticize anyone else for lacking originality.I say again that the closer you are to the truth the madder they get.Enemas is obviously obsessed with Fox News, conservative talk radio, Bush and Cheney and Wal-Mart. This has told me that Enemas, in his own words “a proud union man”, believes whatever the union bosses tell him to (one wonders if Wal-Mart would get off the enemies list if its’ employees suddenly had to pay union dues).There is a joke among lawyers that applies to Enemas and his ilk: “If the facts are on your side, talk facts. If the law is on your side, talk the law. If neither is on your side, talk loud.”

Zelda, Queen of BS: Oh, my god. You were leaving your foul messages during the time observed on Good Friday when Jesus died on the cross? For your horrible, unspeakable sins? I cannot believe the evil.

Your reflexes are that slow that you finally thought something was creepy after you read it eight hours before? Time to think about diet and exercise. You only think its creepy because you don't know how the internet works. Blonde Sagacity put up your information under Places of Interest on this site and then someone else on this blog went to it and then told me about your husband's occupation. I thought it sufficiently uninteresting until I learned more about your personality through this site and your ignorant comments. It must be really creepy in your town when people respond to any advertising you do. Maybe you shouldn't put out info about the practice or yourself--it makes you get the willies.

Try to follow me now: when you put up personal information about yourself on the internet, the whole world can view it. See, you only think its creepy because you don't understand where the information goes after you type it. Maybe you could take another correspondence course.

I'm sorry about your frustration with reading actual full sentences and then paragraphs. Short attention span, huh? Did you know there is medication for that? Short and pithy is probably something you are use to.

I'm surprised you looked up a phrase on Google Translate, wrote it on this blog, but you still do not know what it means, and you want me to look it up.

I know about your short attention span and all but several hours ago you said you were going to talk about the "Kim family" of N. Korea. Did you forget? Speaking of preferences, no one loves dictators like the Bush crime syndicate; I mean family. They love to be in league with them, for profit of course, until they decide they need to get rid of them and use are precious US soldiers to attack them. (See Panama, Iraq). Because if there is one thing everyone knows (except you dunderheads) is that the Bush family & their friends are cowardly chicken hawks and money grubbers.

Wow, it's Easter Monday and Zelda is already making fun of people on welfare. Oh that's right, I forgot, Zelda only likes it when corporations get free handouts because they deserve it. Single mothers trying to live off of minimum wage don't deserve a block of cheese, they are such takers. Go Walmart!

Enemas, I have worked for the minimum wage. I don't think anybody but you and the other clueless think that the minimum wage was ever supposed to provide a standard of living anyone would be satisfied with.Minimum wage applies to entry level jobs that people work themselves out of by either improving their performance to the extent necessary for promotion or else acquire other skills (school) and then move on to other jobs that pay more.There are reasons that people stay at minimum wage. None of them make me sympathetic.

Zelda, Queen of BS: Are you back at your horrible behavior? I hope you didn't go to church yesterday. God will NOT be forgiving you after your disgusting display on Good Friday. All the cheese can't be just for your big hips. Don't be so stingy. Like a chiropractor doesn't take any Medicare/Medicaid payments. Living off the government, Zelda? You sure are a hypocrite.

Have you figured out yet that private information isn't so private when you put it out on the internet? It must have been hard to learn that.

(P.S. Are these sentences too long for you?)

Crabs: Rough night securing the perimeter of your .16 acres? Were there any feds hiding in the trees? You know you are still on minimum wage so you could show some sympathy.

COM,Are you suggesting that people leave minimum wage jobs and go to school? What are the reasons people stay at minimum wage jobs? Because they are lazy, so you are right in not giving them any sympathy. Look, these people don't deserve go go to school, not everyone can, unless, of course, you are a republican with terrible grades and a wealthy father.

Queen of BS-

I agree, the government paid 2 criminals known as Bush-Cheney for 8 years and they didn't work.

Zelda, Queen of BS: Very good. You were able to read all of those sentences. You really are obsessed with cheese. Does this go back to a childhood psychological problem? You know darn well your husband takes Medicare/Medicaid patients. Why lie about it?

You shouldn't be so jealous of Mrs. Obama. Yes, she is everything you are not: sophisticated, fit, well-educated, the First Lady of the United States. Don't be down. You might be able to enter your flowers (or yourself) in the FFA contest this summer at the county fair.

unless, of course, you are a republican with terrible grades and a wealthy father.Thank you for educating me. I have been unaware that Fatso Teddy, Lying Lurch, Ninnie Nance, and Blathering Barb are Republicans.

You call a woman classy that puts her dead fetus in a jar and gives it to her son (George) to hold and then talks about it years later in an interview? It was like she was talking about a jar of olives she was so matter of fact about it. Oh, yes, she sure has Michelle Obama beat in the class department.

She isn't fat and disgusting because she's black. She's fat and disgusting because she sits on her lazy ass all day, stuffs her face, and tells everyone else how to live. Somehow you're weirdly attracted to that.

Well, with the high obesity rates in TEXAS, I guess she does need to tell people to exercise, especially in TEXAS, where people can't think for themselves. Too bad you can't sit all day and stuff your face and look as amazing as Michelle Obama. This is getting too easy....

Zelda, Queen of BS: You are talking about someone being fat and disgusting because she sits on her lazy *** all day?! How is she any more of a hypocrite than you being the spouse of a chiropractor, but you do not practice good health habits?

What do you mean that someone shouldn't bring race into this? I have seen the disgusting names that Mrs. Obama has been called on this site. SHAME, SHAME.God might smite you for it (and for what you did on Good Friday.)

Zelda, Queen of BS: You and Crabs are calling Mrs. Obama an ox and a beast? I agree with the other blogger. Having read your other posts: it is obvious that you are both racist Klan members. Yes, we see the sheets under BOTH your big huge dresses. Just say it: you hate her because she is black.

Sorry but W. wins the prize for most vacations ever taken by a sitting president. He's also the only president that was in bed by 8pm. I think he had to do that to keep from drinking and choking on pretzels.

Zelda, Queen of BS: The reason you think Mrs. Obama has spent more time on vacation than coward GWBush is because of your poor aptitude with simple math.

I'm beginning to feel sorry for you because you are obviously suffering from some traumatic childhood memories and they have made your personality become very, very ugly. If you ever go to church, pray for forgiveness for that terrible thing you did on Good Friday and to find a way that you can become to a better, nicer person. You know, like Mrs. Obama.

Zelda, Queen of BS: Speaking of butthurt (you do know that isn't a word, right?), how is your husband doing? If a non-word like that readily comes to mind, I'm sure there is a reason. What's going on in that strange household of yours? Is something on your mind about your husband?

Zelda, Queen of BS: I know you drink, but you are the one who put information on the internet, remember? Someone using a non-word like butthurt (or is it a product name you are familiar with?) shouldn't talk about crazy.

Tyya's dad won't swallow anything common at the pile up - no ice cream, no sweets, no cookies. But when the saleslady puts a valuation sticker on Tyya's nose, Daddy is conclusively forced to corrupt something allowable

She doesn't "do" irony. But it's hilarious that she suddenly becomes two different people when one says something incontrovertibly stupid that she can't walk back. I'm willing to bet most of the trolls are the same person. If not, it's weird how they all have the same hostility and even turns of phrase - like they're all drinking from the same trough.

Zelda Queen of BS: Look everyone, Zelduh cannot rap her puny little brain around the idea that more than one person is wasting an excruciating amount of time commenting on her incredible stupidity. We are doing it though and then laughing at her hick behavior. Hicks are so amusing: they just never let you down. In other words, she is the Sarah Palin of the site. She is definitely one of the lamest, fakest bloggers on the site (see her comments about pretending to care about babies). She is thoroughly brainless. Does she know anything at all about any subject? She is definitely obtuse and intellectually a complete moron.

Oh, Craps, I mean Crabs: I guess we should also want to believe that all the republican comments on this site are from only one lame brain. It's actually quite comforting to think all that idiotic, sophomoric and vapid republican spew is coming from just one adolescent brain sitting in his/her basement using different names to post instead of numerous idiots. It would answer lot of questions and hopefully mean there wasn't as many of you as we thought. What a comfort. What is your problem with my name calling? Isn't that what you and Zelduh do continuously? Especially toward our FIrst Lady.

Craps: I know, I will just copy others. Maybe you are the one looking in the mirror when you call someone a lardo. Isn't that funny? Well, isn't it? I said the same thing you did about looking in a mirror and seeing a lardo. Now THAT is funny.

Zelduh, QofBS: Only an imbecile with a twisted mind uses a word like that. You telling someone to chill is about as hypercritical as the Bush twins telling people to abstain from alcohol. You sure are obsessed with the First Lady. Sounds like you are a bit of a stalker. I guess you are jealous that she keeps herself fit. Don't fret. You can get fit, too! Okay, probably not.

My, my, you are all very defensive when it comes to a person you claim you never listen to. I don't recall Rachel Maddow or Olberman being stopped at the border with a suitcase full of drugs. Oh,and they're not obese. Why are you so protective of Rush, the drug and food addicted whale?

And, BTW, who 'claim'ed they don't listen? I don't listen as much as I used to, but catch him when I can. It's good to hear a political discussion centered on logic, a knowledge of history, and common sense (not Leftist-style 'common sense', but the real thing.

At this point, I'm not even arguing. I'm just pointing out your inaccuracies (which are legion), and laughing at your condescension, obfuscation, and changing of the subject. You make a good little 'useful idiot'.