[bksvol-discuss] Re: books found on other services

From: Michael Sestak <mlsestak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:58:46 -0800 (PST)

Some of my Olaf Stapledon books are kind of old and beat up, too. But, if they
are likely to be better than yours I could send them to be scanned. Or, if you
scan yours I'd be happy to validate since I have my copies to work from.
Misha
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From: Gary Petraccaro <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 4:49:41 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books found on other services
I have Odd John and Sirius, an Last and First men
and Starmaker.
I may Not get to them immediately since I have 2
books I'm finishing up. I'm working on Forgotten Men which needs its
footnotes checked and properly set up and Power to the People which needs a
Name
check (475 names currently).
My guess is that I could get to it in the middle of
December. The books are old and have been very slightly water
damaged. If they won't scan worth a damn I'll let you know tomorrow.
Hope this helps.
.PS NLS did have two books on tape.
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From:
Evan
Reese
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:38
AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books found
on other services
It would be an extraordinary, and unexpected, piece of good
fortune if you did have these. Whatever you find out, please send word
to:
mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Whatever the results of your search, thank you very much for
checking.
Evan
----- Original Message -----
From:
Gary
Petraccaro
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:37
AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books
found on other services
I used to have them. May still.
I'll check.
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From:
Evan
Reese
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 3:01
AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books
found on other services
The two books were by Olaf Stapledon, a British science
fiction writer who had a great influence on Arthur C. Clarke and Greg
Bear
among others. His most well-known works were published
in the 1930's. He is one of the few authors whose name has become an
adjective. Whenever a reviewer says that a work is "Stapledonian", many
SF
readers will immediately know that that means it is grand in scope and
probably takes place in the far future and involves characters -
posthumans - people very different from the ones around now. Some
consider
his writing to be rather dry, but few would disagree that it is extremely
imaginative.
The one that is available from NLS is Star Maker and the
other book was Odd John and Sirius - two separate novels, but published
together in the edition RFB&D had recorded. They did a pretty
good job with both of those recordings, too. It is sad to know that
probably noone will hear them again. I wish I had thought to check on
them
and order the tapes before it was too late.
NLS also has Last and First Men and Last Men in London,
two other books published in one volume. I wonder if those, and their
version of Star Maker, will also be orphaned when they stop sending out
cassettes.
Evan
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From:
Gary
Petraccaro
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007
9:17 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books
found on other services
Which two?
Thanks.
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From:
Evan Reese
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007
10:32 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re:
books found on other services
There is also another issue: Whenever NLS changes its
formats, many books
are left behind - never to be accessible
again. This happened when they
stopped sending out records and it
will happen again when they stop lending
cassettes. The same thing
happened with RFB&D books on cassette. I picked up
a few that
were on cassette that are not yet on CD, but I missed some too -
probably some that I haven't thought of yet. Just last Thursday, I
was
saddened to discover that I couldn't find two books I like
very much that
they recorded years ago on tape that are now no
longer available because
they are not on CD. NLS has one of them
on tape, but the other is not
accessible anywhere at this time. I
hope to fix that early next year by
submitting it to
Bookshare.
With Bookshare books, I would expect that whatever
new file formats are
created and adopted, there will likely always
be devices that can read brf
files and devices that will read old
versions of Daisy files. Or even if
that is not the case, the rtf
files that Bookshare has of all submitted
books can be reprocessed
into any new format that comes along. In short, no
more orphaned
books; or it is to be hoped, anyway.
Evan
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From: "Lori Castner" <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent:
Monday, November 19, 2007 3:46 PM
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books found on other services
> Plus, on bookshare, yu
can get the books immediately--no calling your
> regional
library and waiting for the book to arrive.
>
> Cat Lover
Lori
>
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Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 12:33 PM
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>> Hi,
>> I favor having
books on Bookshare even if they are duplicates. One
>>
example
>> of why is that although a site like National
Braille Press has them, they
>> are in grade two braille.
That leaves out some people. NLS may only have
>>
it
>> on tape. That leaves out some people. Bookshare offers
books in both
>> DAISY
>> and brf formats. That
includes everyone as far as I can tell. I wish we
>> would
stop pointing people to other sites to be honest. Instead, I feel
>> we
>> should get those books and put them on
Bookshare. I wish they would join
>> us
>> and help
us. That would centralize everything.
>>
>>
Jim
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
Jim
>>
>> James D Homme, , Usability Engineering,
Highmark Inc.,
>> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx,
412-544-1810
>>
>> "Never doubt that a thoughtful
group of committed citizens can change the
>> world.
Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret
Mead
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>>
>>
"Dan
Beaver"
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<dbeaver888@gmail
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Hi all,
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>> I was thinking about some of the
requests for books that are found free
>> on
>>
other services sites. For example, Louisa May Alcot's
books. Mnay of
>> hers
>>
>> are
free on Project Gutenberg.
>>
>> We already have
links on Bookshare that simply point to other services
>>
sites
>> for books. Why can't we do something similar
in this case? We have
>> links
>> that point
to N BP for some books found exclusively over
there.
>>
>> Just a brain
storm.
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