If a wealthy person does something for charity, it's irrelevant because he is not donating more? So if you make $2000 a month, and only give $10 to charity, you're pretty much a monster, because you could have given more? Any wealthy person who doesn't use all of their personal income on charity is terrible? Is this right?

Wolf892:I too hate when the rich come out with something that begs us normies to pony up the cash. I especially hate it when a celeb gets an illness and then suddenly ends up on tv talking about how we all have to donate to find a cure...that celeb didn't care about a cure until he/she had the illness...and these rich folk don't care a hoot about the suffering of the normies in everyday life...Rich people could just plunk down their own money for a change, like this shooting. If Zimmer wanted, he could buy each and every one of the people in that theater a new house or pay off every medical bill that the injured received...but no, he writes something on his piano that probably took him thirty minutes and basks in the glow of hero worship while us normies cough up the dough.Rich people have one rule, never invest your own money in a project. Follow that rule, and you'll get rich.

To you and all the others like you out there. We get it. You are a troll. You are special. You have contrarian views. You are some or all of these things.

The guy made a single and said that 100% of the proceeds will be donated to victims. If you like his music, willing to spend $1.29 for it, which will also benefit victims, then it seems like a great situation for all involved. Buy your music, make your donation, and carry on.

If you do not like his music, but still want to help, you can just donate, any amount, whatever you like.

If you don't want to donate, that's fine too. No one is forcing you to participate in this. Carry on.

But NO, you act outraged that you might be asked to donate a nominal sum. The "rich" guy could afford to pay them millions, why are you asking me for $1.29? Waaah. Waaaahhh! Rich people are oppressing us "normies".

If you want to donate, do it. If you don't want to, that's fine too. No need to whine about it.

ExcaliburPrime111:Wolf892: I too hate when the rich come out with something that begs us normies to pony up the cash. I especially hate it when a celeb gets an illness and then suddenly ends up on tv talking about how we all have to donate to find a cure...that celeb didn't care about a cure until he/she had the illness...and these rich folk don't care a hoot about the suffering of the normies in everyday life...Rich people could just plunk down their own money for a change, like this shooting. If Zimmer wanted, he could buy each and every one of the people in that theater a new house or pay off every medical bill that the injured received...but no, he writes something on his piano that probably took him thirty minutes and basks in the glow of hero worship while us normies cough up the dough.Rich people have one rule, never invest your own money in a project. Follow that rule, and you'll get rich.

To you and all the others like you out there. We get it. You are a troll. You are special. You have contrarian views. You are some or all of these things.

The guy made a single and said that 100% of the proceeds will be donated to victims. If you like his music, willing to spend $1.29 for it, which will also benefit victims, then it seems like a great situation for all involved. Buy your music, make your donation, and carry on.

If you do not like his music, but still want to help, you can just donate, any amount, whatever you like.

If you don't want to donate, that's fine too. No one is forcing you to participate in this. Carry on.

But NO, you act outraged that you might be asked to donate a nominal sum. The "rich" guy could afford to pay them millions, why are you asking me for $1.29? Waaah. Waaaahhh! Rich people are oppressing us "normies".

If you want to donate, do it. If you don't want to, that's fine too. No need to whine about it.

ExcaliburPrime111:Wolf892: I too hate when the rich come out with something that begs us normies to pony up the cash. I especially hate it when a celeb gets an illness and then suddenly ends up on tv talking about how we all have to donate to find a cure...that celeb didn't care about a cure until he/she had the illness...and these rich folk don't care a hoot about the suffering of the normies in everyday life...Rich people could just plunk down their own money for a change, like this shooting. If Zimmer wanted, he could buy each and every one of the people in that theater a new house or pay off every medical bill that the injured received...but no, he writes something on his piano that probably took him thirty minutes and basks in the glow of hero worship while us normies cough up the dough.Rich people have one rule, never invest your own money in a project. Follow that rule, and you'll get rich.

To you and all the others like you out there. We get it. You are a troll. You are special. You have contrarian views. You are some or all of these things.

The guy made a single and said that 100% of the proceeds will be donated to victims. If you like his music, willing to spend $1.29 for it, which will also benefit victims, then it seems like a great situation for all involved. Buy your music, make your donation, and carry on.

If you do not like his music, but still want to help, you can just donate, any amount, whatever you like.

If you don't want to donate, that's fine too. No one is forcing you to participate in this. Carry on.

But NO, you act outraged that you might be asked to donate a nominal sum. The "rich" guy could afford to pay them millions, why are you asking me for $1.29? Waaah. Waaaahhh! Rich people are oppressing us "normies".

If you want to donate, do it. If you don't want to, that's fine too. No need to whine about it.

I'm not trying to troll, I'm just saying...if I was Superman, I wouldn't go around asking the general crowd to lift the car off the old woman, I'd do it myself because I'd have the power to do it.If I were rich, and felt that strongly about the issue, I'd take care of their medical bills myself instead of asking the non rich to shoulder that responsibility. Yes, it's a good cause...yes, us normies are probably happy to help out if we can, but it just feels like if you have the absolut power to do something, then just do it yourself and get it done as quickly as possible while the contribution will have the most affect.

Meesterjojo:Kill 12 people in a theater: Tragedy. Kill 14 in your truck: whatever.

One group of people were killed in cold blood while trying to have a fun night out at the movies. The other group died because they were stupid enough to think that you could safely drive a truck with 23 people stuffed into it. It's hard to feel that sorry for someone who Darwins themselves. Not only were they being stupid, but they REALLY weren't doing much to dispel racist stereotypes.

WxGuy1:I feel bad for those affected by the shooting in Aurora last week. I really do. However, it's interesting how we, as a society, react to such events. In an average day, ~40 people in the U.S. are murdered, ~90 die in automobile crashes/accidents, and dozens of pedestrians are killed by motor vehicles. Undoubtedly, some of these people are every bit as innocent as the folks in the movie theater were. Where are their tributes and candle-light vigils? Where are their charity drives? The innocent people who die in non-dramatic stories seem to whither away in relative obscurity compared to the pop coverage of these types of shootings (Aurora, Virginia Tech, etc.).

I mention this not to diminish the events that happened in Aurora. I'm just curious as to why stories like this one "catch on". There are many innocent people killed doing things that we all do every day, so I don't think it's because "it could have been me". I suspect it's the result of the rare nature of the Aurora shooting and the relatively large number of deaths in such a small area -- it's such a "shocking" event, unlike the vehicle fatalities or murders involved innocent folks that we're now accustomed to as we watch/read the news. If people really cared about innocent people dying, then it probably shouldn't matter how they died (well, within reason). How many people have donated to the families who have lost innocent loved ones in car accidents or other fatal events since Aurora?

Its sensational because a dozen people being killed by a crazed gunman isnt a normal occurrence. Yeah ~40 people are murdered every day, most of those arent random. Usually when someone gets murdered theres a reason for it besides wrong place wrong time. Not necessarily a good reason, slept with your wife or stole your drugs or in a rival gang arent GOOD reasons, but theyre reasons that the average person can understand. That is not the case with random spree killings like this.

Would say that I'm shocked about some of the reaction to what I thought was a very nice gesture by a good man (Zimmer is known as a good guy in film circles - much admired, in fact). I would say it, only I won't because this is Fark and.... well, we all know how contrary this place is. Part of the fun.

That said, I bought the single for four reasons:

1) I like Zimmer's work, so would likely have bought it anyway;2) It's very, very inexpensive;3) It is part of the process of coming to terms with a horrible event which should not have happened; an event which happened in a place people don't generally feel threatened in; and4) As someone who does some work on films, it felt like a good thing to do, and something I wanted to at least play some (tiny) part in.

As it turns out, it's a very emotional and beautifully written and recorded piece. Don't like it? Fine, but the fact is that these things can be about more than money - it's a way of showing emotional support, and (I'm not in the U.S.) being able to do something, even if it is indeed a token gesture.

I laid flowers at the base of the entrance to the American embassy in my city after 9/11, along with many other people. Didn't help as such, but it helped with the helplessness, and it helped with showing support. In my opinion.

Wolf892:ExcaliburPrime111: Wolf892: I too hate when the rich come out with something that begs us normies to pony up the cash. I especially hate it when a celeb gets an illness and then suddenly ends up on tv talking about how we all have to donate to find a cure...that celeb didn't care about a cure until he/she had the illness...and these rich folk don't care a hoot about the suffering of the normies in everyday life...Rich people could just plunk down their own money for a change, like this shooting. If Zimmer wanted, he could buy each and every one of the people in that theater a new house or pay off every medical bill that the injured received...but no, he writes something on his piano that probably took him thirty minutes and basks in the glow of hero worship while us normies cough up the dough.Rich people have one rule, never invest your own money in a project. Follow that rule, and you'll get rich.

To you and all the others like you out there. We get it. You are a troll. You are special. You have contrarian views. You are some or all of these things.

The guy made a single and said that 100% of the proceeds will be donated to victims. If you like his music, willing to spend $1.29 for it, which will also benefit victims, then it seems like a great situation for all involved. Buy your music, make your donation, and carry on.

If you do not like his music, but still want to help, you can just donate, any amount, whatever you like.

If you don't want to donate, that's fine too. No one is forcing you to participate in this. Carry on.

But NO, you act outraged that you might be asked to donate a nominal sum. The "rich" guy could afford to pay them millions, why are you asking me for $1.29? Waaah. Waaaahhh! Rich people are oppressing us "normies".

If you want to donate, do it. If you don't want to, that's fine too. No need to whine about it.

I'm not trying to troll, I'm just saying...if I was Superman, I wouldn't go around asking the general crowd to lift the car off ...

Why should the guy pay hundreds of thousands of dollars (or more) over a tragedy that he was not responsible for? His way of contributing is by doing what he does best - making music. He is donating all of the proceeds, so as not to "cash in" on the tragedy and so as to provide the maximum funds to the victims.

People who want to help get an incentive to make a nominal donation, which if multiplied over a large enough number of people, will result in a substantial donation.

Sure, it might be possible for him to donate a ton of money directly, but here you are, crying over the possibility of donating $1.29, yet you expect someone else to pay out hundreds of thousands or more. Come on.

Would say that I'm shocked about some of the reaction to what I thought was a very nice gesture by a good man (Zimmer is known as a good guy in film circles - much admired, in fact). I would say it, only I won't because this is Fark and.... well, we all know how contrary this place is. Part of the fun.

That said, I bought the single for four reasons:

1) I like Zimmer's work, so would likely have bought it anyway;2) It's very, very inexpensive;3) It is part of the process of coming to terms with a horrible event which should not have happened; an event which happened in a place people don't generally feel threatened in; and4) As someone who does some work on films, it felt like a good thing to do, and something I wanted to at least play some (tiny) part in.

As it turns out, it's a very emotional and beautifully written and recorded piece. Don't like it? Fine, but the fact is that these things can be about more than money - it's a way of showing emotional support, and (I'm not in the U.S.) being able to do something, even if it is indeed a token gesture.

I laid flowers at the base of the entrance to the American embassy in my city after 9/11, along with many other people. Didn't help as such, but it helped with the helplessness, and it helped with showing support. In my opinion.

Well said. The guy makes music for a living, and is donating ALL of the proceeds of this, which he made because of the incident. I normally do not buy, or donate money to causes, but I certainly wouldn't look down on someone who starts a fund to help innocent victims. That's retarded. I'm looking at you, wolf892

Theatres are (~Chorus of angels~) SACRED PLACES? (~End chorus of angels~) Theatres...? Really? Is a theatre SACRED like the places where a child is born? or sacred like a place where our parents would pass away?

It's a farking THEATRE and it was a farking BARELY PASSABLE Batman movie.

YES! It was an atrocity, a terrible thing for anyone to go through.

But let's not act as if 50 seat multiplexes showing the next Dane Cook shiatFEST are the new Jerusalem.

In this day and age....we don't need charities. This one may or may not be questionable, but there is (at least) a possibility of it. Besides - if you buy anything off iTunes you are paying the Apple tax. Then you've got the charity itself that may take a non-trivial cut from each donation for all the hard work they do in accepting money. That's only half a joke - at they very least they've got a lot of government red-tape to deal with to get and maintain their tax-free status and that does cost money. Nevermind the slew of people who are employed at charities taking home very large salaries while producing nothing and giving nothing.

We have the internet. We have Facebook. Send $1.29 straight to one of the victims or the family of one of them. It can't be that hard to figure out.

Would say that I'm shocked about some of the reaction to what I thought was a very nice gesture by a good man (Zimmer is known as a good guy in film circles - much admired, in fact). I would say it, only I won't because this is Fark and.... well, we all know how contrary this place is. Part of the fun.

That said, I bought the single for four reasons:

1) I like Zimmer's work, so would likely have bought it anyway;2) It's very, very inexpensive;3) It is part of the process of coming to terms with a horrible event which should not have happened; an event which happened in a place people don't generally feel threatened in; and4) As someone who does some work on films, it felt like a good thing to do, and something I wanted to at least play some (tiny) part in.

As it turns out, it's a very emotional and beautifully written and recorded piece. Don't like it? Fine, but the fact is that these things can be about more than money - it's a way of showing emotional support, and (I'm not in the U.S.) being able to do something, even if it is indeed a token gesture.

I laid flowers at the base of the entrance to the American embassy in my city after 9/11, along with many other people. Didn't help as such, but it helped with the helplessness, and it helped with showing support. In my opinion.

Don't feel too bad. Some farkers just take joy out of being contrarian assholes. They haven't donated a dime to help anyone, but love saying other people didn't do enough.

Oznog:Having some trouble here. I listened to a bit of it and, being a Zimmer score, all I'm seeing in my mind is a movie clip of Holmes shooting everyone, in slow mo. After 3 seconds of him grinning and 4 rounds flashing out, we see a 1 second reaction of the crowd scrambling, 3 seconds of a brass casing slowly falling to the floor and another one just ABOUT to hit the floor, but then we cut to a camera near the door where people are scrambling over one another to get to it while the camera is moving upward on a jib arm, still in slow mo, then we cut back to the shooter on a close-up...

It's a movie score, which could be wildly inappropriate by some interpretations. Well I'm sure it's sorta just me and all.

Though I haven't heard the track, your description of the scene was so bang on that I know believe I have actually played the entire track, in my head, simply from the visuals you described. We're going to hell.

Theatres are (~Chorus of angels~) SACRED PLACES? (~End chorus of angels~) Theatres...? Really? Is a theatre SACRED like the places where a child is born? or sacred like a place where our parents would pass away?

It's a farking THEATRE and it was a farking BARELY PASSABLE Batman movie.

YES! It was an atrocity, a terrible thing for anyone to go through.

But let's not act as if 50 seat multiplexes showing the next Dane Cook shiatFEST are the new Jerusalem.

According to Wikipedia, he scored The Lion King. I stopped reading at that point, I'm fine with this, and I am well aware I own at least one other soundtrack he's scored, possibly up to a half dozen or so.

Also did Inception, The Prince of Egypt (yeah, the movie isn't that great, but the music is excellent) and Gladiator.

Also, Black Hawk Down, Pirates of the Caribbean, and numerous other movies. Haven't heard a track from him I don't like.

Would say that I'm shocked about some of the reaction to what I thought was a very nice gesture by a good man (Zimmer is known as a good guy in film circles - much admired, in fact). I would say it, only I won't because this is Fark and.... well, we all know how contrary this place is. Part of the fun.

That said, I bought the single for four reasons:

1) I like Zimmer's work, so would likely have bought it anyway;2) It's very, very inexpensive;3) It is part of the process of coming to terms with a horrible event which should not have happened; an event which happened in a place people don't generally feel threatened in; and4) As someone who does some work on films, it felt like a good thing to do, and something I wanted to at least play some (tiny) part in.

As it turns out, it's a very emotional and beautifully written and recorded piece. Don't like it? Fine, but the fact is that these things can be about more than money - it's a way of showing emotional support, and (I'm not in the U.S.) being able to do something, even if it is indeed a token gesture.

I laid flowers at the base of the entrance to the American embassy in my city after 9/11, along with many other people. Didn't help as such, but it helped with the helplessness, and it helped with showing support. In my opinion.

Well, thanks for the info. I'd love to donate something and I enjoy a lot of Zimmer's work so this is perfect. I wouldn't have known otherwise.

Abe Vigoda's Ghost:WxGuy1: I feel bad for those affected by the shooting in Aurora last week. I really do. However, it's interesting how we, as a society, react to such events. In an average day, ~40 people in the U.S. are murdered, ~90 die in automobile crashes/accidents, and dozens of pedestrians are killed by motor vehicles. Undoubtedly, some of these people are every bit as innocent as the folks in the movie theater were. Where are their tributes and candle-light vigils? Where are their charity drives? The innocent people who die in non-dramatic stories seem to whither away in relative obscurity compared to the pop coverage of these types of shootings (Aurora, Virginia Tech, etc.).

I mention this not to diminish the events that happened in Aurora. I'm just curious as to why stories like this one "catch on". There are many innocent people killed doing things that we all do every day, so I don't think it's because "it could have been me". I suspect it's the result of the rare nature of the Aurora shooting and the relatively large number of deaths in such a small area -- it's such a "shocking" event, unlike the vehicle fatalities or murders involved innocent folks that we're now accustomed to as we watch/read the news. If people really cared about innocent people dying, then it probably shouldn't matter how they died (well, within reason). How many people have donated to the families who have lost innocent loved ones in car accidents or other fatal events since Aurora?

This pretty much covers how I feel about this event, and all the coverage it's been getting 24/7 since it happened. Of course it's newsworthy, now let it go. I don't need all the feel-good bullshiat stories and tributes, there are other things more important happening in the world right now.

You're missing the point. Guns are bad! Health care coverage is important! A drugged out, dirt poor med student can coordinate a takedown of 12 - with many more wounded - completely by himself, including buying $20,000 worth of guns, etc. And don't forget booby-trapping his apartment to the teeth right before he slips out the window. Don't you watch the frickin' "news"?

WxGuy1:I feel bad for those affected by the shooting in Aurora last week. I really do. However, it's interesting how we, as a society, react to such events. In an average day, ~40 people in the U.S. are murdered, ~90 die in automobile crashes/accidents, and dozens of pedestrians are killed by motor vehicles. Undoubtedly, some of these people are every bit as innocent as the folks in the movie theater were. Where are their tributes and candle-light vigils? Where are their charity drives? The innocent people who die in non-dramatic stories seem to whither away in relative obscurity compared to the pop coverage of these types of shootings (Aurora, Virginia Tech, etc.).

I mention this not to diminish the events that happened in Aurora. I'm just curious as to why stories like this one "catch on". There are many innocent people killed doing things that we all do every day, so I don't think it's because "it could have been me". I suspect it's the result of the rare nature of the Aurora shooting and the relatively large number of deaths in such a small area -- it's such a "shocking" event, unlike the vehicle fatalities or murders involved innocent folks that we're now accustomed to as we watch/read the news. If people really cared about innocent people dying, then it probably shouldn't matter how they died (well, within reason). How many people have donated to the families who have lost innocent loved ones in car accidents or other fatal events since Aurora?

I don't know why events like this float to the top of the news cycle. I think the outrage comes from the fact that people going into a movie or going to school shouldn't have to be concerned about being shot.

However, jumping into truck with twenty two other people or speeding down the freeway, you're assuming some sort or risk.

/lives in Aurora//never went to that theater at night because of gangs, not because of crazy people with semi automatic guns///just saying