Used the Soft ION for putting today in a competition... For 3 holes. Then threw it to the trunk of our car and put a FR-P2 back to the bag...

Yeah the ION works when you're practicing and doing everything "perfect", with no fear, but it utterly BLOWS when it's the real deal. Plus it goes right through a bad basket. For me, ION will be the stable driving putter of choice from now on, but I'll leave putting duty to a disc that does it the best; the P2.

Loop wrote:Used the Soft ION for putting today in a competition... For 3 holes. Then threw it to the trunk of our car and put a FR-P2 back to the bag...

Yeah the ION works when you're practicing and doing everything "perfect", with no fear, but it utterly BLOWS when it's the real deal. Plus it goes right through a bad basket. For me, ION will be the stable driving putter of choice from now on, but I'll leave putting duty to a disc that does it the best; the P2.

Sounds like a confidence issue more than any property of the Ion. How can a putter be good in practice, but BLOW in competition? Although I will say that I don't like putting short putts with soft Ions...I think they are more nose angle sensitive than the mediums and can really climb fast when you get too much nose up.

Loop wrote:Used the Soft ION for putting today in a competition... For 3 holes. Then threw it to the trunk of our car and put a FR-P2 back to the bag...

Yeah the ION works when you're practicing and doing everything "perfect", with no fear, but it utterly BLOWS when it's the real deal. Plus it goes right through a bad basket. For me, ION will be the stable driving putter of choice from now on, but I'll leave putting duty to a disc that does it the best; the P2.

Sounds like a confidence issue more than any property of the Ion. How can a putter be good in practice, but BLOW in competition? Although I will say that I don't like putting short putts with soft Ions...I think they are more nose angle sensitive than the mediums and can really climb fast when you get too much nose up.

Loop wrote:Used the Soft ION for putting today in a competition... For 3 holes. Then threw it to the trunk of our car and put a FR-P2 back to the bag...

Yeah the ION works when you're practicing and doing everything "perfect", with no fear, but it utterly BLOWS when it's the real deal. Plus it goes right through a bad basket. For me, ION will be the stable driving putter of choice from now on, but I'll leave putting duty to a disc that does it the best; the P2.

You should see Swan2 in cold weather. The only thing it won't push out of the way is the pole. And it skirts around the pole easily moving the chains from the way. And there's no fear allowed in putting. Practice or otherwise. Fear makes you throw worse than you can. So what's the use of fearing? Get rid of it.

Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.

For those who use Ion's as an approach disc - I have a 170 Medium and 172 Soft that seem to glide just a little too much for me to get an easy range on them when it comes under 100'. I love them for putting and driving. They also seem to slide/skip a lot more, which I almost expect because of the plastic. Should I stick with what I have, or get a max weight Ion? Or just use something with less glide?

I have a 166 Pro Rhyno that works much better. It's like a lightweight brick that sits down where I tell it to.

I guess my next question is whether people find the need to compliment the Ion with something like a Rhyno or JOKERi? (I see one "yes" so far) Wondering if I can get away with less molds. Right now for putters I have Rhynos, Ions, and Aviar P&A's...and I'm wanting to try an Anode when it comes out.

I have a 166 Pro Rhyno that works much better. It's like a lightweight brick that sits down where I tell it to.

I guess my next question is whether people find the need to compliment the Ion with something like a Rhyno or JOKERi? (I see one "yes" so far) Wondering if I can get away with less molds. Right now for putters I have Rhynos, Ions, and Aviar P&A's...and I'm wanting to try an Anode when it comes out.

Frank Delicious wrote:The Ion is more than stable enough for me, I actual have a couple of SB aviars in the bag for the turnover shots until I can get an Anode to test or an Ion beat in to flippy.

That's what I'm thinking of doing too. I figure I can get an Ion to do the same things as a Rhyno, just with less power. My DX Aviar P&A's are great at turnover shots, and I'm interested to hear how Anodes fly, though I don't expect them to be flippy or to turn right from flat.