Bosh already said it: the is nothing more to talk about anymore. The players just need to go out there and do it.

I agreed with Triano's commitment to consistency for the first two months, but it is time to shake things up. How? I have no clue. I can't think of a starting lineup (Wright is looking increasingly bad) that I want to have though.

Tonight Bargs had a good offensive game. Bosh had a 'decent' but very disappointing showing. Both of them got burned by Jamison all night long though. Turk had better be upset after that game - where is the camel clutch we paid so much money for?

I agreed with Triano's commitment to consistency for the first two months, but it is time to shake things up. How? I have no clue. I can't think of a starting lineup (Wright is looking increasingly bad) that I want to have though.

Well, we don't have to worry about that because Jay just said this in the post game scrum and I quote:

I don't think it's our starting lineup, I'm not going make changes.

verbatim wrote:

Tonight Bargs had a good offensive game. Bosh had a 'decent' but very disappointing showing. Both of them got burned by Jamison all night long though. Turk had better be upset after that game - where is the camel clutch we paid so much money for?

And yet, both Bosh and Bargnani disappeared in the 4th quarter. And don't even get me started on Hedo. Talk about a momentum killer. His lack of clutchness in the 4th quarter let alone overall on offense has been detrimental to this team. I want our $55 million back because I feel robbed right now?

I do feel bad for Triano though. I really can't pin these losses on him. He puts any number of players out there, and they just don't perform. You think if the Raps fire Triano they will play any better?

Its a combination of both (players and coaching) but the easy way out always is to pin your shortcomings on the coach. This season, I really question the heart and lack of intensity with these guys. There seems to be no sense of urgency both with coaching and with the player's effort on the court.

I disagree, feel that Jay is over his head. Great guy to have around the team, but not smart enough to be a head coach in this league.

Even with Marion, the team went 12-15 (.444). Here was an addition that was supposed to be a perfect fit. A player that played defence and did the things the rest of the team did not.

Yet under Jay, the team did worse than Sam Mitchell's rendition at the start of the year. We also had an easier schedule. In that time we lost to the knicks, indianna, and back to backs against Charlotte.

Perhaps a change in lineup

It cant any worse from here...can it? so how about bringing in amir, wright and marco off the bench to join demar and bosh as the starting 5.
if u actually look at the roster, we got a bunch of slow movers (on their feet i mean) in andrea, jose, rasho, hedo...they just don't have the speed and energy.

It cant any worse from here...can it? so how about bringing in amir, wright and marco off the bench to join demar and bosh as the starting 5.
if u actually look at the roster, we got a bunch of slow movers (on their feet i mean) in andrea, jose, rasho, hedo...they just don't have the speed and energy.

Wright quite frankly as vocal as he's being right now which I commend him for, doesn't deserve anymore play time than guys like Weems and Pops are getting right now. There was alot of hype coming into this season pertaining to the type of player that Antoine is on the court and all I have to say he that he's one of the biggest, if not the biggest, disappointments on the court this season. He can't create anything on offense; horrible shooter and this so-called fantastic defender he was suppose to be is something I have yet to see.

Bottom line is, some changes need to be made in the starting line-up, but I don't think it has to be that extreme in replacing over two-thirds of the starting five. Just one or at most two line-up tweaks. Anything more and emotions are going to take over and then we'll have even more players sulking and its already bad enough right now.