I just tried to look this up and found an article that said it would explain it but contained material on sex reassignment surgery that was so graphic that my stomach lurched. Since it's close to dinner, I'm going to pass on this one.

I was thinking of something funny but could happen .

What if a lady reported another lady because she think she might be a man and it is not really a man ? lol

I can see some ladies getting offended.

Cussing as she is being escorted away for further evaluation and Id check.

' I'm a real woman damn it, get your hands off me. Do I really look like a man to you ? '

Trannys aren't going away as much as we wish they would. Trumps veiw on this issue is sensible. People should use the bathroom they feel comfortable using. Sexual harassment is illegal no matter what sex you are. If someone is being a pervert in the public washroom report them. If a tranny walks in that looks like a man in a wig say "excuse me but it's very obvious you are a man and you're making us uncomfortable. You aren't far enough along in your transition to be in the ladies room. Please respect the women and young girls who are in this bathroom and kindly use the unisex bathroom" If you are met with hostility report them. If a law is passed concerning trannys using public washrooms it should be based on how passable they are for the opposite sex. When they are transitioning their therapist should have the final say wether they have transitioned enough to begin going in public bathrooms and other gender divided spaces. Once the therapist believes the person is ready they should have to go before a board of people run by the department of health and human services, if this board of people believe the tranny has transitioned enough and won't cause problems in society they can issue them a card that allows them in gender divided places. This will cut back on society's fear of perverted men in wigs claiming to be transgendered just to go in the women's bathroom and change rooms. Before a tranny should be allowed in a bathroom or change room they should be thoroughly evaluated by a team of professionals.

Trannys aren't going away as much as we wish they would. Trumps veiw on this issue is sensible. People should use the bathroom they feel comfortable using. Sexual harassment is illegal no matter what sex you are. If someone is being a pervert in the public washroom report them. If a tranny walks in that looks like a man in a wig say "excuse me but it's very obvious you are a man and you're making us uncomfortable. You aren't far enough along in your transition to be in the ladies room. Please respect the women and young girls who are in this bathroom and kindly use the unisex bathroom" If you are met with hostility report them. If a law is passed concerning trannys using public washrooms it should be based on how passable they are for the opposite sex. When they are transitioning their therapist should have the final say wether they have transitioned enough to begin going in public bathrooms and other gender divided spaces. Once the therapist believes the person is ready they should have to go before a board of people run by the department of health and human services, if this board of people believe the tranny has transitioned enough and won't cause problems in society they can issue them a card that allows them in gender divided places. This will cut back on society's fear of perverted men in wigs claiming to be transgendered just to go in the women's bathroom and change rooms. Before a tranny should be allowed in a bathroom or change room they should be thoroughly evaluated by a team of professionals.

The process you describe above is about as likely as trannies disappearing entirely.

If we are dealing in idealistic policies without regard for the current political/social climate then I say lets erase "transgenderism" completely from the discourse. Treat them as mental patients as we used to.

As for policies within the current system - resisting any changes to the existing status of males using male bathrooms and females using female bathrooms seems to me the best way to go.

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How can this ban possibly be enforced? A lot of transgenders look feminine. Some real women look a little butch. Will guards monitor the doors examining genitals? Will they conduct random exams- or just focus on suspicious looking people? Will we need surveillance cameras? Will trespassers be fined/imprisoned? Who will monitor the guards?

If a system is set up where people can report people they suspect should not be in that BR - who will respond? The police? Shouldn't they be out catching murderers? Security guards? Will they be armed?

Best advice I can think of: Leave it alone/agree with Trump on this one / avoid public restrooms as much as possible.

How can this ban possibly be enforced? A lot of transgenders look feminine. Some real women look a little butch. Will guards monitor the doors examining genitals? Will they conduct random exams- or just focus on suspicious looking people? Will we need surveillance cameras? Will trespassers be fined/imprisoned? Who will monitor the guards?

If a system is set up where people can report people they suspect should not be in that BR - who will respond? The police? Shouldn't they be out catching murderers? Security guards? Will they be armed?

Best advice I can think of: Leave it alone/agree with Trump on this one / avoid public restrooms as much as possible.

This same argument could be used to allow free access for all people into any bathroom. After all, we don't have genital guards at the moment. What happens if a man goes into to the ladies as of now?

What happens if a man just has a wig and dress on, but still looks like a man, goes into the ladies at the moment?

The point is, the current system we have still has these problems. What's the solution - only have unisex bathrooms?

Not all issues can be easily enforced and have neat and tidy characteristics. Some issues are just a bit messy. Doesn't mean we should just give up and make it a free for all.

I think a problem is being created where none exists. All kinds of people use public restrooms. Ya gotta go; ya gotta go. We worry about creating a nanny state and then want to regulate public bathroom usage.

To my knowledge there have been no cases of transgenders raping/assaulting women in public bathrooms. I would much rather rely on my common sense and stay out of bathrooms in areas I don't feel are safe. What is the alternative- pulling down my panties for the nice guard so he or she can permit me onto the appropriate throne? Being remotely monitored while I use the can at Wally World?

Most establishments can't even keep the places stocked with soap/toilet paper and johns that flush properly.

Trump got this one right.

About 0.3% of the population identify as transgender. I don't want my public bathroom experience to be monitored/regulated because of them.

It would make more sense to monitor/enforce proper handwashing in male/female bathrooms. All kinds of germs are spread by people who neglect this matter of hygiene. Anyone not washing/scrubbing for a full minute could be fined/jailed/or shot. It would prevent many illnesses.

I think a problem is being created where none exists. All kinds of people use public restrooms. Ya gotta go; ya gotta go. We worry about creating a nanny state and then want to regulate public bathroom usage.

Well I don't particularly think grown men should be able to use the same bathroom as young girls. Pretty sure that's asking for trouble.

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To my knowledge there have been no cases of transgenders raping/assaulting women in public bathrooms.

That's because it's only recently being normalised and the previous barriers are being removed.

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Trump got this one right.

From what I remember you've been fairly against him for months because of his alleged 'misogyny' and 'sexism' and yet the first issue I've seen you agree with him on happens to be about people using whatever bathroom they want? Strange, to say the least.

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About 0.3% of the population identify as transgender. I don't want my public bathroom experience to be monitored/regulated because of them.

With the current campaign to mainstream and normalise 'transgenderism' those numbers are rising quickly. The amount of children who are now identifying as 'transgender' has gone up sharply and significantly just over the last decade because of its promotion in the MSM.

With the children of today in particular you'll see some serious problems in 10-15 years time. Mentally damaged, hormonally chaotic and psychologically scarred individuals ready to take their revenge on the society that allowed and approved of their 'condition'.

Don't underestimate what is being done to these people. At the age of 11 or 12 they can start getting puberty blockers, hormone treatments etc. Yes they will always remain a small percentage of the population but it only takes a small percentage to cause significant harm.

How can this ban possibly be enforced? A lot of transgenders look feminine. Some real women look a little butch. Will guards monitor the doors examining genitals? Will they conduct random exams- or just focus on suspicious looking people? Will we need surveillance cameras? Will trespassers be fined/imprisoned? Who will monitor the guards?

If a system is set up where people can report people they suspect should not be in that BR - who will respond? The police? Shouldn't they be out catching murderers? Security guards? Will they be armed?

Best advice I can think of: Leave it alone/agree with Trump on this one / avoid public restrooms as much as possible.

I agree with you 100%. This thing is going to be a mess.

I think it will be even less effective than the ' Don't Litter' law. lol

BN-Should grown men be able to use the same bathroom as little boys? Some of those grown men are pedophiles. Pedophilia is more common than transgenderism. If you're going to worry about people peeing in the right spot, the permutations are endless.

Why give pedos a pass? What about convicted rapists? Should we produce a clean legal record for the nice bathroom guard before unzipping?

Public bathrooms are a Wild West of lawlessness and poor hygiene. Men miss the bowl. Then people step in their pee and track it all over the place. Girls flush sanitary products down the can and stop them up. People neglect to wash their hands and then make my lunch. I would rather use my common sense to minimize the impact of these problems than submit to any government program you might concoct for my protection. Thanks, anyways.

BN-Should grown men be able to use the same bathroom as little boys? Some of those grown men are pedophiles. Pedophilia is more common than transgenderism. If you're going to worry about people peeing in the right spot, the permutations are endless.

Why give pedos a pass? What about convicted rapists? Should we produce a clean legal record for the nice bathroom guard before unzipping?

You do have a tendency to argue like a 'liberal' sometimes.

So, there should be no gender segregation of bathrooms? And your argument to support this is because of...paedophiles?

You can't tell a paedophile just by looking. Or a rapist. When they are discovered they should be dealt with appropriately.

Transgenders, however, are usually quite obvious at first glance. I already outlined my suggestion earlier to laidbackguy. Not perfect but sends the right message.

There are sound reasons to separate the genders when it comes to the bathroom. Citing other issues within each gender, or any other issues, doesn't negate that point. That's akin to saying 'Oh, what's the point in separating the races? There's plenty of in-race violence and problems so why bother?' Or 'So what about black violence? White people commit crimes too, you know'.

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Public bathrooms are a Wild West of lawlessness and poor hygiene. Men miss the bowl. Then people step in their pee and track it all over the place. Girls flush sanitary products down the can and stop them up. People neglect to wash their hands and then make my lunch. I would rather use my common sense to minimize the impact of these problems than submit to any government program you might concoct for my protection. Thanks, anyways.

So because there are many issues involving hygiene this means we shouldn't bother having gender segregated bathrooms? Yes, that makes a lot of sense.