On Tuesday only one precinct had less than 113% turnout. The Unofficial vote count is 175,554 registered voters 247,713 vote cards cast (141.10% ). The National SEAL Museum, a St. Lucie county polling place, had 158.85% voter turn out, the highest in the county.

The Supervisor of Elections, Gertrude Walker, had this to say concerning the 141% voter turnout: They may have had something like that in Palm Beach County, but weve never seen that here.

So maybe Allen West wasnt crazy to ask for a lock-down on the ballot boxes and machines in this county. According to the report given the day after elections, Allen B. West garnered 52,625 votes in St.Lucie county and Patrick Murphy 65,896 votes.

This is a problem that must be addressed right away. There is no reason that there should ever be more than 100% turnout. This county alone could have cost Allen West his election. Voter fraud is real, and it is time that this be solved.

I have the same question as you with respect to the turnout. The enthusiasm was very high and the waiting lines for early voting were very long. I haven’t seen the actual percentages but I believe what you are saying.

Best poll watchers? High school seniors. No one knows who they are till a week before election day. They are randomly selected from across the country and none of them work in the district they live in.

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posted on 11/10/2012 5:42:50 PM PST
by EQAndyBuzz
(Media goes nuts in 2004 because Bush went to the dentist 20 years ago. Benghazi? Nothing.)

I agree that some Freepers explanations are very plausible and I’m agreeing that they are right, but that County has bad software and an incompetent Elections Supervisor.

For the sanctity of the Vote, why can’t Ms. Walker say something other than express surprise at the total? huh?
She’s fed the disinformation by her initial and only response to a TV reporter, to a question by the NBC tv station about HER REPORT.

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posted on 11/10/2012 5:43:19 PM PST
by machogirl
(First they came for my tagline, it's back. 2008, the Decline of America)

From all indications I saw/read/heard with early voting and Election Day turn out, it was way up over 2008. I just don’t see how the DC 0Care protest, the 2010 enthusiasm and the Chic Fil A Day turn outs mysteriously dissipated on Election Day. I don’t think it did.

I went through Orange County, their software thank goodness and their site, is as user friendly as Broward.

Their data is by Ballots cast and it doesn’t report like St. Lucie. (yes after the first two pages of the St. Lucie report, it breaks down into 70-90% mostly of turnout)

The turnout was (average) just shy of 70%, for Orange.

No report at their official elections site had the bizarre counting of “cards”. They are counted as ballots (1 for each voter), despite the three pages.

St. Lucie County needs a redo of their Elections Site. I found no such disinformation at any other official County Elections website in Florida. It’s their fault for bad reporting to the public via their site.

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posted on 11/10/2012 5:58:32 PM PST
by machogirl
(First they came for my tagline, it's back. 2008, the Decline of America)

I am not saying that there is not at least incompetence here and I am not saying that there is not fraud, I am just saying the 141% is not it. Other counties got the software settings right so that they didn’t do this bogus report. She should be suspended, Gertrude Walker St. Lucie County Supervisor of Elections, until an investigation is completed and a determination made.

Ravenstar

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posted on 11/10/2012 5:59:24 PM PST
by Ravenstar
(Reinstitute the Constitution as the Ultimate Law of the Land --Cain 2012)

The numbers still don’t add up, even with that explanation - if I’m understanding correctly. This says total number of cards cast was 247,713, resulting in 123,591 total votes (presumably in the Presidential election, since that’s what is being tabulated). If every ballot had 2 cards cast, that would be 123,856.5 ballots. (One ballot didn’t have both sides counted, which is problematic.)

There were 397 “blank voted” (undervotes, presumably, where there was no Presidential vote.) That would lower the number of Presidential votes to 123,459. There were 43 “overvoted” (where more than one Presidential candidate was chosen so those votes would be disqualified). That would lower the number of Presidential votes to 123,416. That doesn’t match the claim that there was a total of 123,591 Presidential votes.

Show me not only where it is explained that “cards cast” means how many pages were scanned, but also how these numbers would make sense if audited.

It’s not explained anywhere but here. I can’t find an official statement other than Ms. Walker interviewed by NBC affiliate on the 7th being shocked at the numbers on the % turnout.

They were questioning her on the numbers and they serve that area. Since she left it on the site as is, she deserves scrutiny. If the NBC affiliate can question the info and why it reads the way it does and get no answer, why can’t we question her first two pages, without being ridiculed?

Thanks again for all your hard work Butter! You’ve done a lot.

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posted on 11/10/2012 6:06:19 PM PST
by machogirl
(First they came for my tagline, it's back. 2008, the Decline of America)

Well I hope to be located there before long. But the process will take some time as we are renting for now with the intent to buy once we get to look around and decide on an area. We'll locate somewhere around the Raliegh/Durham area, just not sure the locale yet. I was off line some due to a total compute failure and FR wasn't worth the effort with the slowness. This move will offer a chance to see new regions and explore some. I have a classmate from high school up in VA so I'm going to look him up and reminisce some. Be taling with you.

What happened was that voter turnout is normally calculated by the number of ballot cards cast by the number of registered voters. Since there were so many amendments up for vote in Florida this year, the ballot was two sheets long. So now St. Lucie’s report shows voter turnouts that are double what the actual number is. So they counted sheets, not voters, a clerical issue not a conspiracy. If the reporter here had bothered to read page 3, they could see that the number of votes in the presidential race is around a 70% turnout rate.
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I did see your explanation and though I have not gone through it step by step against what is posted I trust you are right. I didn’t say there weren’t inconsistencies just that there is an explanation for the 141%. Now why was she so incompetent to allow that to happen? That definately means there should be an investigation and as I said before a Suspension until it is complete with valid counts being demonstable.

Ravenstar

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posted on 11/10/2012 6:11:11 PM PST
by Ravenstar
(Reinstitute the Constitution as the Ultimate Law of the Land --Cain 2012)

See my last post. For instance, how do you get an odd number of cards cast in your scenario? And why does subtracting the overvotes (disqualified Presidential votes) and undervotes (no Presidential vote) result in less Presidential votes (using your method) than the number of Presidential votes they say were cast?

Ah, the Hawaii state registrar has now legally confirmed that you were wrong about the “birther” stuff, now that they’ve confirmed that Obama’s HI BC is not legally valid.

And now I’m pointing out that these numbers still don’t add up even using your explanation. Unless you’ve got a way to reconcile the discrepancies caused by your theory, I’ll presume that attention to detail is not your strong suit. And that’s the kindest explanation.

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