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His eye size also changes, btw, but maybe that has something to do with his character shifts. When he's joking around with his cousins, they are pretty large, and when he switches into his Dangerous!Battler mode, he becomes a bit squinty-eyed.

Started reading the VN, and I was always under the impression meta-Battler was safe from harm. Turns out he was killed a few times by the stakes and so forth in episode 3, so do the stakes have the liberty of killing him whenever they want or something?

Started reading the VN, and I was always under the impression meta-Battler was safe from harm. Turns out he was killed a few times by the stakes and so forth in episode 3, so do the stakes have the liberty of killing him whenever they want or something?

Well yes they do. Nothing said you couldn't be harmed in the meta-world after all

But as k//eternal said, his barrier shows up when he gets serious. So when the stakes were killing him he didn't mind it (he looked like he was having fun really) but when the Siestas attacked he was serious about taking on Evatrice, hence the barrier appeared.

Well yes they do. Nothing said you couldn't be harmed in the meta-world after all

But as k//eternal said, his barrier shows up when he gets serious. So when the stakes were killing him he didn't mind it (he looked like he was having fun really) but when the Siestas attacked he was serious about taking on Evatrice, hence the barrier appeared.

I see. I could see where he's having fun bit coming from but it's still hard to imagine Battler in bits and pieces. Ass nee-chans ftw, I suppose.

Battler rocks! He was a bit dumb back in ep 1 but he's shapin' up nicely.

"was"? I think he is still pretty dumb. Anything that is female can trap him with very little effort.
"Hey Battler, I need your help in screwing you over. Do you mind?" - A female.
"Sure, as long as you make me look really stupid while doing so." - Battler.
Battler is about as sharp as a crayon, the only reason he is not looking as stupid is because of events happening since episode 4 but that is only because he remembered something that we cannot since we are not him.

Do you know what is the sin?
It isn't because you ate the forbidden fruit.

Do you know what is the sin?
It isn't because you listened to the serpent.

You still don't know what is the sin?
Then, that itself is your sin.

-Frederica Bernkastel

^^I think I know what Battler's sin is

What a nice tie-in by Ryukishi, intentional or otherwise.

Spoiler for interpretation and EP4 spoilers:

Does the poem imply that the sin is "a broken promise," just like Beatrice told Battler? Someone job my memory - did God simply command Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit of the tree of wisdom, or did the couple promise not to? If they promised not to, then this a very interesting tie-in.

Does the poem imply that the sin is "a broken promise," just like Beatrice told Battler? Someone job my memory - did God simply command Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit of the tree of wisdom, or did the couple promise not to? If they promised not to, then this a very interesting tie-in.

It was totally intentional :3

Spoiler for Response to your spoiler tag:

I had thought It was a broken promise, so broken that you don't even know what you promised...like Battler
And umm I'm sort of an idiot when it comes to religion, but all I remember from Bible school is that Eve ate the apple even though God told them not too..