Billy Koch for Keith Foulke in 2002. All he got for Carlos Less was Podsednik and Luis Vizcaino.

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And somehow through it all, he put together a team that won the 2005 World Series.

The problem with him is that he has made a shitload of trades and has only won a few of them. I can't think of one before 2004 or so that he actually won. He was the GM I mocked out relentlessly in my blog a few years ago.

Yeah, he wins here and there, way more now than before. The Contreras and El Duque deals were huge parts of winning a world series. But, even in winning that series, it's shown that 05 might have just been everything coming together for one year.

Yeah, he wins here and there, way more now than before. The Contreras and El Duque deals were huge parts of winning a world series. But, even in winning that series, it's shown that 05 might have just been everything coming together for one year.

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Who knows how the '05 ALCS goes if the Pierzynski play doesn't happen.

More difficult? The Tigers might win every single game they play in 08. That's how good their lineup and pitching is. Get someone other than Old Man Winter (Todd Jones) to close and that's a dominant team. They're ridiculous. Good luck anyone trying to catch them in the Central.

More difficult? The Tigers might win every single game they play in 08. That's how good their lineup and pitching is. Get someone other than Old Man Winter (Todd Jones) to close and that's a dominant team. They're ridiculous. Good luck anyone trying to catch them in the Central.

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They have one good starting pitcher and maybe half a good reliever. They're the 04 Yankees, if that.

More difficult? The Tigers might win every single game they play in 08. That's how good their lineup and pitching is. Get someone other than Old Man Winter (Todd Jones) to close and that's a dominant team. They're ridiculous. Good luck anyone trying to catch them in the Central.

Reacting Wednesday to the blockbuster deal that sent power-hitting third baseman Miguel Cabrera and former All-Star left-hander Dontrelle Willis from the Florida Marlins to the Detroit Tigers — wrecking the Sox’ latest offseason plans — Williams said: ‘‘All this has done is put the Tigers in a better position to contend with us.''

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i know it's a bit obscure, but i'm captivated by the way this mouthbreather is running the white sox into the ground, so i read about him every chance i get. i thought this had made the rounds.

Oakland is a glorified farm team. They do this all the time: trade a big name for a bunch of prospects, those prospects become big names, then they trade them for more prospects and the cycle just keeps going and going.

At what point are they going to keep their players and actually win something?

Oakland is a glorified farm team. They do this all the time: trade a big name for a bunch of prospects, those prospects become big names, then they trade them for more prospects and the cycle just keeps going and going.

At what point are they going to keep their players and actually win something?

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They've made the playoffs a lot more than teams that keep overpaying for players like Texas/Seattle/Chicago/LAD so they have to be doing something right.

If I was an A's fan I'd accept that every two years or so are bad then there's 2-4 great years.

i know it's a bit obscure, but i'm captivated by the way this mouthbreather is running the white sox into the ground, so i read about him every chance i get. i thought this had made the rounds.

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I am a Cubs fan so I relish watching Kenny Williams fuck up. His over confidence after winning in 2005 is astounding. That farm system is shot and it is not like he emptied it to bring in superstars like Cabrera. This guy just mortgaged the future for Nick Swisher.

Oakland is a glorified farm team. They do this all the time: trade a big name for a bunch of prospects, those prospects become big names, then they trade them for more prospects and the cycle just keeps going and going.

At what point are they going to keep their players and actually win something?

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It's been that way forever for the A's. Hell Roger Maris was orginally an Athletic.

Considering that they rank 3rd in World Series Championships when you add up the pre-Oakland eras, I've got no complaints. They've been in the Bay Area since 68 and have 4 titles in 6 attempts over that time, as opposed to the Giants who've been their since 58 and are 0-2.

Farm Club or realizing they can dish while the offering price is high? I offer you the following for consideration:

Hudson has been considerably less than he was as an Athletic.

Mulder? Injured.

Giambi? Best years were in Oakland.

Tejada? Ok, you've got me there. I miss the shit out of him.

Zito? Hit more often than a mouthy wife last year (and has been downhill since his Cy Young year).

As the title said Beane is a rapist. I wouldn't deal with him if I were a GM because the deals usually work out MUCH better for the A's than they do for the other guy.

Remember, he got Haren/Colero/AND Daric Barton for Mulder when everyone knew Mulder's shoudler was about to blow up.

He then gets all he can out of Kiki, holds on to Barton(Career minor league line .301/.414/.457/.872 in the majors so far .347/.429/.639/1.068) and trades Haren for the DBacks' top two prospects and four more good ones.

And somehow through it all, he put together a team that won the 2005 World Series.

The problem with him is that he has made a shitload of trades and has only won a few of them. I can't think of one before 2004 or so that he actually won. He was the GM I mocked out relentlessly in my blog a few years ago.

Anyway, I still think he will win out in Danks/McCarthy.

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yes, we all remember your witty blog comments. they were freaking hilarious.

Yeah, just saw that and was coming here to make a similar comment. What the fuck are the Angels thinking there? Santana and Adenhart both had down years but I think they will be able to develop into quality starters. I'm not really sold on Crede and Konerko is on the downswing.

I think that Kenny Williams was monitoring this thread and had to try and get some of his good name back.

Edit: Went looking for articles on it and couldn't find it on of the major sites. Maybe its a fraud, which would explain a lot.