Just don't whine when you come back here during the season when our run game is 20-25 again.

I'm sure that will Ben's fault too.

No, nothing is Ben's fault... not even Game losing INTs with the playoffs on the line. Clearly, the blame rests with a running play call on the 50 yard line

lol

05-02-2013, 06:46 PM

ice cream glove

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Originally Posted by Crash

and it's not like his 2010 Chiefs weren't the #1 rushing yards team in the league or anything

And what happened in the playoffs?

THROTTLED by the Ravens.

When Crash gets defeated in debate (pretty much always) he moves the goal posts. He claimed Haley never has a good running game, that assertion is then refuted, so he moves on to say "What happened to KC in the play offs?" That was never the point; the best rushing teams often lose in the play offs; we did every year with Cowher except for 1. That was never the point, but bizarro boy switched the subject. Sniffing paint is bad for you.

05-02-2013, 06:46 PM

Crash

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Originally Posted by NeilPatrickBanana

No, nothing is Ben's fault... not even Game losing INTs with the playoffs on the line. Clearly, the blame rests with a running play call on the 50 yard line

lol

If Ben wasn't allowed to throw in the 4th quarter from the Cincy 38, and from the Steelers 45, why on ****ing Earth was he throwing from his OWN 11 with less than a minute to play?

You can't have it both ways. Although I'm sure you prefer that lifestyle.

If Haley called the run plays because Ben was injured as YOU have claimed, then he's a goddamn idiot for having the same QB throwing from the 11 yard line with a minute to play in the game.

05-02-2013, 06:50 PM

ice cream glove

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Originally Posted by NeilPatrickBanana

as usual, when confronted by facts that disprove your position, you pivot to a new argument

When Crash gets defeated in debate (pretty much always) he moves the goal posts. He claimed Haley never has a good running game, that assertion is then refuted, so he moves on to say "What happened to KC in the play offs?" That was never the point; the best rushing teams often lose in the play offs; we did every year with Cowher except for 1. That was never the point, but bizarro boy switched the subject. Sniffing paint is bad for you.

Tell that to Neil. He's giving Haley credit for the 2007 Cards run game when Whisenhunt was calling plays that season.

05-02-2013, 06:53 PM

Crash

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Originally Posted by NeilPatrickBanana

as usual, when confronted by facts that disprove your position, you pivot to a new argument

Where's the FACTS that show Kirby Wilson was in charge of the run game?

Provide them or STFU and go back in the closet.

05-02-2013, 06:57 PM

NeilPatrickBanana

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Originally Posted by Crash

You mean when Whiz ran their offense and called the plays his first year there?

See what happens when a football coach, and not a golf coach, is running things?

actually Haley took over playcalling in the 2nd half of the 2007 season
07 Whiz 19.6 pts per game
07 Haley 30.8 pts per game

when he had playcalling for the entire season 2008 (the following year).... they went to the Super Bowl. It should also be noted that Haley called fewer running plays in that season, than any team in the NFL (dispelling the myth that he runs too much)

The Cardinals threw the ball 65&#37; of the time under Haley's playcalling

you make this so easy

05-02-2013, 07:01 PM

NeilPatrickBanana

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Originally Posted by Crash

Where's the FACTS that show Kirby Wilson was in charge of the run game?

Provide them or STFU and go back in the closet.

I never said Kirby Wilson was "in charge of the run game".... what does that even mean, "in charge", are you talking about playbook, playcall, or execution coaching?

The running game, in the playbook 2012, was the Arians running game. It was kept in place by Kirby and the rest of the coaching staff to ease the transition to a new passing game.

Notice that we are putting a new run blocking scheme in place this year? Along with a new blocking scheme comes a new running game...

Do you need to watch some tape and have me walk you through it? You should really probably start with some introductory learning in regards to football schematics and play design. Play around with your google for a while, and come back with some questions. We are here to help, just because you are disabled doesn't mean you should enjoy football any less

05-02-2013, 07:03 PM

Crash

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when he had playcalling for the entire season 2008 (the following year).... they went to the Super Bowl.

He had a 1 game improvement despite having Kurt Warner start the whole year in 2008 (He only started 11 in 2007) and his great offense pissed away an 18 point lead in the NFC title game and did nothing in the Super Bowl until LeBeau went to his prevent defense.

Yeah he's a goddamn genius!

05-02-2013, 07:03 PM

NeilPatrickBanana

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Originally Posted by Crash

Tell that to Neil. He's giving Haley credit for the 2007 Cards run game when Whisenhunt was calling plays that season.

I know... Haley totally had nothing to do with that. While Whiz was calling the plays, the OC had nothing to do with substitutions and packages...