http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/ ... li=BBnb4R7
FWIW,
The above link is a written interview with Jim Rogers, who has an outstanding historical record when it comes to predicting/timing major market ‘things,’ I consider Jim Rogers a true market guru when it comes to timing major market issues for the future. Rogers rarely speaks, but when he does I have never seen him wrong with his rare long-term future market predictions, but there is always a first time he could be wrong. He is predicting major market trouble for US late this year (2017) or next year (2018). If Jim Rogers is right, then the very tight Moon-Mercury-Saturn conjunction in the 2018 Capsolar could very well be symbolizing what Jim Rogers is predicting. Transiting Saturn will exact cnj 2018 Capsolar Moon-Mercury 3 separate times in 2018, In other words, t. Saturn will be staying in a tight degree zone for all of 2018. 2018 Capsolar is non-dormant with tight angular Sun-Uranus-Pluto symbolism, a volatile outer planet combo. Since we don’t see any angular Neptune in the 4 Solar Ingresses in 2018, I am not expecting long term Neptune panic-type situations in the markets, with Roger’s possible market crash situation, but I have not looked at the US Lunar ingresses for a possible quick one month market type panic, with a quick rebound with major FED intervention, in other words, another major bailout for the elite institutions.

Looks like 2018 and 2021 might be heavy for you in the US.
2018, Pluto&Uranus on angles suggest an uprising and protest and some major changes. The Sun-Uranus square suggest you may change your president (maybe this is wishful thinking on my behalf )

Steve, I would say also look at just the simple position and movement of Saturn into Sagittarius soon.

IF we would just look at the world as a whole, and not focus on the US (it is not the navel of the universe
we would note that Saturn is about to enter Sagi and that may mean limitations in money and lending practices (imo), so lack in supply of money can lead to devastating effects for big business and small.

If I were to have a purely astrological look at the possible meaning of the planets movements in coming years, I would say Saturn in Sagi and Jupiter in Saturn's exaltation degree around Christmas time this year will be showing us the first signs of weakness. When Jupiter hits that degree again in retro motion, we will again see signs of weakness. I think that when Saturn moves closer up to Pluto in late 2019, we will see the most devastating effects for the economy. But when Saturn moves on into Capri and out of orb of Pluto as well as Jupiter coming in on Pluto we will for a while think things get better, so already in spring 2020.... but as Jupiter moves into Capri and conjuncts Saturn and both Jupiter and Saturn will move by Jupiter's degree of fall, things are going to be bad and won't be better until Jupiter has moved out of Capri. So not until spring 2021 will things actually get better for real.

In short, it will be bad while Saturn travels through Sagi and Capri and Jupiter through Capri...
The worst times ahead will be when:
Saturn conjuncts Pluto
Saturn and Jupiter conjunct and also when they pass by Jup degree of fall.

Thanks Steve. Yes, the market cycles and all of us that know how the financial system works, we know that people did not really learn from the last crash - not enough to prevent another one.
On that site investing.com I found another article about a big bank in Spain that has just almost fallen - they saved face at the last minute.https://www.investing.com/analysis/the- ... -200194732

Since we don’t see any angular Neptune in the 4 Solar Ingresses in 2018, I am not expecting long term Neptune panic-type situations in the markets, with Roger’s (see above) possible market crash situation…

The only possible ingress I see which could time a possible major financial panic in the US leading to severe economic conditions-- is the 2020 DC Cansolar. Jim’s SMA work has proven non-dormant Mars-Neptune symbolism is to be feared under certain market situations. But, the structure of the Mars-Neptune symbolism in the 2020 Cansolar is somewhat different than all the other Cansolars with non-dormant angular Mars-Neptune symbolism which timed major financial panics. The 2020 Cansolar features a dormant foreground Mars/Neptune=Asc midpoint structure. Fagan & Firebrace in their book ‘Primer of Sidereal Astrology’ included this type midpoint structure as a valid part of Sidereal Astrology. When considering Jim Roger’s above analysis—that the worst economic depression in our lifetime is going to start to unfold in 2018 is very difficult for me to accept without seeing major SMA Neptune symbolism. But there is always a ‘first’ for anything when dealing with major Uranus-Pluto symbolism such as we see in the 2018 DC Capsolar. Again, the tight Moon-Mercury-Saturn cnj in the 2018 Capsolar, economically, worries the heck out of me when closely looking at Saturn’s transit motion in 2018. I am closely looking for major internal technical signs in the Dow that offers probabilities for a major top in 2017. So far, I see no major technical signs of a major top, but if a major war was to develop, we will definitely, at least, see a major correction occur in the Dow.

Steve, I agree that key things we've consistently seen in the past just aren't showing up for a few years, so I tend to think there is not a seismic-level correction afoot.

But that 2018 Capsolar is harsh - not just for the U.S. (where there is a lot of "shake-up" symbolism), but for the world. that Moon-Mercury-Saturn triple conjunction is intimidating, when you contrast it to the number of years of real economic recovery under repeated Moon-Jupiter aspects during the Obama administration. I see no reason to think that Moon-Saturn in a Capsolar wouldn't be as overall-bad as Moon-Jupiter was overall-good. (For DC, it's partile in mundo.)

Instead of a mega-correction, perhaps the more moderate phrase is, "hurting bad" for the economy. Certainly things like slowed productivity, slowed expansion, y'think? Given Saturn in Sagittarius, which seems to exacerbate stratified income inequity, the scenario forming in my head reflects situations that impact low-income sectors hard, while providing "demand" conditions that high-income sectors can leverage to their advantage (new leveraged bubbles). There will be a new Fed chair soon, and pointers are that it will be somebody who will reverse course of the Fed's historic path.

There will be a new Fed chair soon, and pointers are that it will be somebody who will reverse course of the Fed's historic path.

A huge factor!! When this happens, we will need to pay close attention to how the Dow reacts, and normally the markets will react to a major Fed shift. Also, there is one factor Jim Rogers is not considering and that is a major war. Roger's does not see/understand what we astrologers see/understand with Trump's natal Mars/Asc relocating to DC. But, for now, as you have pointed--out--no major Mars symbolism in future ingresses, so this appears to be Trump's natal Mars manifesting with his domestic DC problems.

Jim, could you break a few years down for Britain as well?
I think we did check in the Brexit thread, but would be good to get this kind of breakdown, specially since we know that Brexit will happen within 2 yrs ...so does Britain have similar symbolism in 2020? Or before that time?

I look for great revolutionary changes with the Uranus-Pluto Paran in DC’s 2020 Libsolar. This Libsolar is loaded with partile aspects. Jim, with your mundane expertise for reading SMA charts, I would appreciate your thoughts about this Libsolar, particularly since this Libsolar sets-up for a Prez Election.
2020 DC Libsolar:http://imgur.com/a/pODbC

I look for great revolutionary changes with the Uranus-Pluto Paran in DC’s 2020 Libsolar. This Libsolar is loaded with partile aspects. Jim, with your mundane expertise for reading SMA charts, I would appreciate your thoughts about this Libsolar, particularly since this Libsolar sets-up for a Prez Election.

Here' a full breakdown of the 2020 Libsolar, which has every planet foreground except Venus and Neptune, but with particular attention on Uranus, Pluto, Sun, and Mercury, with particular focus on a Mercury-Uranus-Pluto mundane T-square.

It' a complex map, which, however, falls into a few basic patterns. At a glance, it is as terrifying as the 2016 Libsolar except, this time, the focus is so much more clearly on the election itself. The 2016 spoke of direct, destructive assaults on our nation wit attempts to derail and overthrow it, and also did have enough indication of hacking that it allowed me to predict hacking assaults at the end. This 2020 one, though, is far more pointed at the presidency itself, and is no less disruptive, unpredictable, and uprooting than 2016. If I were to be too extreme, I'd say that this chart marks the death of the U.S. presidency.

That's probably too extreme, but it paints the right tone. Also, I'm looking at this out of the context of all the other charts. I won't really do this analysis until late September 2020, so anything I write here now is a spot check. There is definitely technological intervention, and definitely disclosures, revelations, upsetting information.

Let's simplify the above list and organize by themes and relative orbs:

You can see the main themes for yourself. With the sort (and this is a simplification!) the very closest factors are the Uranus-Pluto and Sun-Mars-Jupiter aspects, and Sun-Saturn. This can be an assault on so many levels I won't try enumerating them, but none of it is good for us.

Yes, I've been watching those rates since spring (on and off) and new the inversion was likely going to occur by the end of the year. Long-term confidence is down, meaning long-term investment is down, meaning trouble. I'd say this can hit anytime between now and the next three years and - thanks - I hadn't stopped to think that it meant 2021.

Meanwhile, President Trump is having his own "rate inversion" right about now, and that will be terribly interesting to watch in its own right. Apparently Flynn was enormously helpful to Mueller in laying out his whole investigative campaign. I have long thought that Flynn is the biggest threat to Pence. (Pence testified to Congress that he did not know of Flynn's contact with Russians until it broke open in the news. I think there is a significant chance that this is a lie, that he knew before inauguration during the transition period. If I'm right about that, then Flynn is the one other person who knows for sure. If Pence is removed first, then things get really interesting.)

Meanwhile back at the stock market: Conveniently for the White House, yesterday's 3% drop won't be repeated today. The market is closed for a proclaimed national day of mourning. But Thursday will be really interesting to watch at the opening gun.

Technically speaking, the market has been locked in a broad 3000 pt sideways trading range. If the market is getting ready to go into Bear Mode, it will need to first close below the low of this broad trading range (I think 23,500) on the weekly charts and then close below the same low on the monthly charts. The top of this broad trading range began on Trump's State of the Union Jan 2018, telling America how great things were economically, a classic sign for at least an important intermediary top, but could turn into a major top with very long term economic downer signs.

We are not yet to a negative yield spread. I am trying to find a link which will constantly track the yield spread so we will know for sure when the spread goes negative. When it goes negative, by certain modern historical evidence with Fed action, we will be in recession 12 months later.

It should be understood, there are different kinds of recessions, the worst are the ones where market panics occur with Neptune related aspects in non-dormant Solar Ingresses close to the angles, or Moon-Neptune aspects in the Solar Ingresses, particularly with the Capsolar and Cansolar. This has been proven by Jim’s brilliant historical research with Mundane Sidereal Astrology involving major financial panics which destroys economic confidence psychologically with the people. It is somewhat interesting to me the above link is telling us with the trend of this bond yield spread we will be in recession sometime in 2020. Is there a Sidereal Solar Ingress in 2020 which hints of chances for a financial panic. By Jim’s written Sidereal Mundane Astrology (SMA) guidelines, I don’t see a non-dormant Solar Ingress in 2020 which offers a high chance of a financial panic. There is one which may have low probability of timing a financial panic, and that would be the 2020 Cansolar featuring a partile eclipto Midpoint Mars/Neptune=Asc, but again, this type eclipto midpoint has not proven itself in Jim’s SMA research to time financial panics.

IMO, most all high government officials including Fed officials elected by either party are idiots! Bernanke helped orchestrate the 2008 financial panic by his stupidly. He told America everything was good with a sound housing market which would keep the economy strong. Either he was lying or he was stupid. The same goes to all the other members who sit on the Fed Board.

What has me most worried economically is 2020 is very close to the 2021 Capsolar. I think Jim’s words best sums up the potential for DC’s 2021:

This can be an assault on so many levels I won't try enumerating them, but none of it is good for us.

I think I know this: If this ‘assault’ manifests economically then I think one of my main economic gurus (Jim Rogers) I have followed long term economic advice all my adult life will be right. He basically says the next major financial panic will not be corrected by Fed action. In other words: any bailout or corrected measures by the Fed will fail because of the 21 Trillion National Debt.

One big relief for my mind: I don’t see any major financial panic symbolism for the next 12 years with Jim’s SMA Solar Ingresses in DC, unless we get tricked- upped with the 2020 Cansolar eclipto midpoint of Mars/Neptune=Asc. There is another way us Siderealists with SMA can get tricked-upped, and that is if another major country manifests a major financial panic beginning a Domino effect globally. I am worried about China because they hold so much of our Bond Debt, but I don’t really have enough understanding about this relationship on a global scale in a knowing way. But we probably need to monitor Beijing’s Cap/Can Solars for financial panics. If they ever start to panic out of US Bonds it would definitely bleed heavily on US economic interest. And look at the game Trump is playing with the Trade Traffics with China. Everywhere I look politically involving US pertaining to sound economic policy, I see an increased amount of ‘dummbing down,’ but it probably can’t be helped just like our climate crises can’t be helped without making people stop burning fossil fuels, which would probably be at a huge economic expense to everyone.