Front Page: Alaska's Ted Stevens Loses Tight Reelection Bid

Front Page: Alaska's Ted Stevens Loses Tight Reelection Bid

Alaskan Senator Ted Stevens has officially lost his reelection bid, bringing the Democrats only two seats away from a filibuster-proof 60-seat majority. Stevens was the longest serving Republican ever to serve in the Senate, and his recent federal corruption conviction led to his fall from power. — New York Times

In a new audio message al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri attacks Barack Obama going as far as using a racial epithet implying that Obama does the bidding of whites. The leader wants to convince Muslims and Arabs that Obama does not represent change. — AP

Ashley Dupre, the prostitute who brought down former New York Governor Eliot Spitzer has sat down with Diane Sawyer. Her interview will air on Friday's 20/20 at 10 pm EST/PST. — ABC News

You don't have to apologize, but I accept and thanks. My point here was harmless. And I understand you going to the conclusion you went to based on what I've said on other threads.
I would say that I don't insinuate (I'll quote you from earlier) "Obama voters are a bunch of loony cultists with no real grasp of the issues" so much as I say it outright. I do believe that there is a certain subset of Obama followers that fit this description. In another debate another time, I can bring up all sorts of examples and we can hash it out. It will be awesome fun.
If I call you Kool-Aid drinkers and the like, take it in stride. We conservatives have been called fascists, hatemongers, and warmongers. You know that you need some thick skin if you are going to debate politics. This sort of thing comes with the territory.

You don't have to apologize, but I accept and thanks. My point here was harmless. And I understand you going to the conclusion you went to based on what I've said on other threads. I would say that I don't insinuate (I'll quote you from earlier) "Obama voters are a bunch of loony cultists with no real grasp of the issues" so much as I say it outright. I do believe that there is a certain subset of Obama followers that fit this description. In another debate another time, I can bring up all sorts of examples and we can hash it out. It will be awesome fun.If I call you Kool-Aid drinkers and the like, take it in stride. We conservatives have been called fascists, hatemongers, and warmongers. You know that you need some thick skin if you are going to debate politics. This sort of thing comes with the territory.

"Now does it stink that people don't vote all the time and the point that I brought up isn't moot? Sure, I'm sure we could agree on that."
Yes, we can agree on that.
If I misinterpreted you, then I apologize, however it really does seem that a lot of what you say on here is geared towards insinuating the things I said you insinuated. But it doesn't seem we'll see eye to eye on this, so I'm letting it go.

"Now does it stink that people don't vote all the time and the point that I brought up isn't moot? Sure, I'm sure we could agree on that."Yes, we can agree on that.If I misinterpreted you, then I apologize, however it really does seem that a lot of what you say on here is geared towards insinuating the things I said you insinuated. But it doesn't seem we'll see eye to eye on this, so I'm letting it go.

I would say that pretty much everyone is guilty of doing some belittling from time to time on this board... if merely from the fact that written words do not come off the same as spoken ones and things get miscommunicated.
For the record, I have had Obama supprters accuse me of belonging to a cult (my personal fav); being selfish; being judgmental; lying; hating women, etc... I'm not too bothered by it. I understood what I was getting into when I started posting. For the most part the accusations were the result of people misinterpreting what I said or assuming I was insinuating something.

I would say that pretty much everyone is guilty of doing some belittling from time to time on this board... if merely from the fact that written words do not come off the same as spoken ones and things get miscommunicated.For the record, I have had Obama supprters accuse me of belonging to a cult (my personal fav); being selfish; being judgmental; lying; hating women, etc... I'm not too bothered by it. I understood what I was getting into when I started posting. For the most part the accusations were the result of people misinterpreting what I said or assuming I was insinuating something.

totally agree with you Beavis... I got your comment being about the "new voter surge" They say that this surge is what is responsible for prop 8 in california passing. But if Obama hadn't been on the ballot, and the "new surge" wanting to be able to say "I voted for Obama" Then the turnout would have been different and caused a different result...

Well I certainly do belittle Obama followers from time to time, but not there. Again, you are reading too much into it.
First time voters has the connotation of people (folks if you will) who don't make it a habit of voting. In that there are also folks who just turned voting age. Obama brought the lion's share of both of those voting blocs to the polls. Good for him! In any primary or special/runoff, the majority of voters are people who voted in the last 3 elections. That is what Gallup's widely respected "likely voter" classification is all about.
My statement referenced little more than conventional wisdom, voting statistics, and voting history.
Now does it stink that people don't vote all the time and the point that I brought up isn't moot? Sure, I'm sure we could agree on that.

Well I certainly do belittle Obama followers from time to time, but not there. Again, you are reading too much into it.First time voters has the connotation of people (folks if you will) who don't make it a habit of voting. In that there are also folks who just turned voting age. Obama brought the lion's share of both of those voting blocs to the polls. Good for him! In any primary or special/runoff, the majority of voters are people who voted in the last 3 elections. That is what Gallup's widely respected "likely voter" classification is all about. My statement referenced little more than conventional wisdom, voting statistics, and voting history. Now does it stink that people don't vote all the time and the point that I brought up isn't moot? Sure, I'm sure we could agree on that.

Nope, I still think it's a negative vast generalization. I've seen you time and time again suggest that Obama voters are a bunch of loony cultists with no real grasp of the issues. As if it's so difficult to see how people may have thrown their support behind him passionately because he embodies and espouses the ideals and policies that his supporters embrace. Or how young voters, among them many college students perhaps who have just gotten old enough to vote, not only couldn't have voted until this election but were excited to register so they could vote for someone who, again, embodies and espouses the ideals and policies they believe in.
He got a lot of people politically involved and passionate about their beliefs, and I don't see that as a bad thing, nor do I think it shows anything negative about those who got involved because of him.
I'm sorry, but I don't think it can be denied that you constantly belittle Obama supporters.

Nope, I still think it's a negative vast generalization. I've seen you time and time again suggest that Obama voters are a bunch of loony cultists with no real grasp of the issues. As if it's so difficult to see how people may have thrown their support behind him passionately because he embodies and espouses the ideals and policies that his supporters embrace. Or how young voters, among them many college students perhaps who have just gotten old enough to vote, not only couldn't have voted until this election but were excited to register so they could vote for someone who, again, embodies and espouses the ideals and policies they believe in.He got a lot of people politically involved and passionate about their beliefs, and I don't see that as a bad thing, nor do I think it shows anything negative about those who got involved because of him.I'm sorry, but I don't think it can be denied that you constantly belittle Obama supporters.

I think Saxby will win Georgia handily in the runoff and the Democratic supermajority will be averted. IMO, the only reason that race was close enough to force a runoff was the record Obama new voter surge. Those folks won't leave their houses if there isn't an Obama on the ticket in the runoff.

I mean are we really going to win Georgia, I'm inclined not to think so...I think republicans can rest easy and feel good that corruption wasn't allowed back in Senate. Ultimately it makes your party look bad to have someone negative representing it.
Why is this taking so long, even with the recounts? Is there something about this process I'm missing guys?

I mean are we really going to win Georgia, I'm inclined not to think so...I think republicans can rest easy and feel good that corruption wasn't allowed back in Senate. Ultimately it makes your party look bad to have someone negative representing it.Why is this taking so long, even with the recounts? Is there something about this process I'm missing guys?