The Great Trade-Off

Going forward, please cluebat any Greenwoodian who doesn’t understand the following from Z Man, via Heartiste:

There’s also the fact that America has been a social democracy for close to a century now. Mostly what the Right in America has done since WW2 is perpetuate a fantasy that is not based in fact. Just about every aspect of American life is socialized to some degree.

There is no area of American life where the state does not play an active role and there is no redistributive goal of their involvement. The core of both parties, both sides of the ruling class, is packed to the gills with central planners. Their only dispute is about the resulting patronage.

One other factoid, relevant for its media/government-school-produced inevitability, via VD:

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45 responses to “The Great Trade-Off”

Al Liguori | April 19, 2019 at 14:25 | Reply
“Actually, Dirk, both the Bible and the Talmud agree with you.”
Seems to me it was predestined that Jesus was to die for the whole world’s sins.
Pointing fingers at each other is playing to satan’s game.
Don’t ya think?
Also is this not like adam pointing to eve,& eve pointing to the serpent?
Someone needs to take personal, responsibility?

From the Daily Stormer: If any single boomer conservative says that Hitler was “left-wing,” I would ask them, if Hitler had won the war, would we have:

Child trannies
Mass drug addiction
Mass abortion
The destruction of Christianity
Mass immigration
Islamic terrorism
Widespread divorce and the death of the family
Convicted pedophile trannies reading to children at the public library
Rampant pornography
Feminism
Black people running amok and killing everyone
Gay pride parades with gigantic dildos everywhere
The obvious answer – which no conservative can deny – is that we would have not one of those things.

Ein Volk is lost on these people, they’d rather have their Christian Taliban enforcing their rules on the godless masses.
When you read the seething hatred they sow towards non believers, it’s obvious very few follow the teachings of Jesus. It’s all just for show, and to stoke their own misguided ego.

But the same could be said about Stalin and BTW Hitler was a sexual pervert who allowed globohomo free reign until it was timely to slaughter them, he also made a deal with the Rothchields. Later Hitler’s minions ran rampant like demons, one cat liked to induce orgasms in women as he disemboweled them, he did much the same to children. The NAZIs sentenced him to death when he murdered the wrong woman but he was released, put at the head of a detachment of criminal psychopaths and released into occupied Soviet territory to do as he would. Nope Hitler was evil, should have died a hero in WW1

Child trannies
Mass drug addiction
Mass abortion
The destruction of Christianity
Mass immigration
Islamic terrorism
Widespread divorce and the death of the family
Convicted pedophile trannies reading to children at the public library
Rampant pornography
Feminism
Black people running amok and killing everyone
Gay pride parades with gigantic dildos everywhere
The obvious answer – which no conservative can deny – is that we would have not one of those things.”

Take a look at some of the upper echelon of the Nazi Party and you might want to re-evaluate that position. Had Germany won, Hitler still would have died in the 60s or 70s, so he’d be long gone by now anyway.

But as to the following:
Mass drug addiction: Hitler and Goering were addicts, so yeah, that would probably be a thing.
Mass abortion: Absolutely would exist, and would mostly be the same groups as practice it now. The Nazis were not fans of blacks or Jewish intelligentsia.
Destruction of Christianity: Would have happened even faster. The Nazis permitted people to list faith as “believer in God,” but very much disliked Christianity and wanted to get rid of it and replace it with a combination of the State and Aryan mysticism.
Mass immigration: Maybe not in Europe, but likely still would here. At most, the US government would have been adapted to be favorable to Germany; it wouldn’t have been a clone. And we’d still be the rich nation drawing in people from Latin America.
Islamic terrorism: Likely, yes. It would take a different form, most likely, but absent some serious culling, Islam was on the rise in the post WWII years. Add in a destroyed Soviet Union, and it would have had free reign in the former Eastern Soviet republics.
Convicted pedophile trannies: The SA wasn’t lacking sexual deviants.
Rampant pornography: Maybe. The Nazis were against it, but again, Hitler would be long dead at this point, and the upper echelons of the Nazi party were more libertine than puritan.
Feminism: Yes, but of a very different sort. More a wife-and-mother sort of feminism.
Black people killing everyone: There still would have been a black population in the US, though it likely would be more cowed. Africa would still be Africa, however.
Gay Pride parades: Again, check out the upper echelons of the SA. Yes, some were purged, but they had more than a few degenerates.

Left wing is a political scale from the “French Republic” a parliamentary social democracy. Left wing means the primacy of government power and the abrogation of personal rights, freedoms and liberties. The NAZI’s were very left wing.

Would we have any of those things you listed? They had them in NSDLP Germany, but never publicly.

Blitzkreig was a testosterone and Pervitin fueled fuck fest. Himmler,Goering and a few other top nazi motherfuckers were textbook perverts. Hitler loved young girls. He liked them more if they were related. Mass abortion ,German style. No age limit. Kill them all. Change mass Immigration to mass migration. Nazis moved a shit-ton of people.
Christianity was fucked under nazi doctrine. Jesus had nothing to do with those assholes. Death of the family. No body has fucked up more families than the German Nazi in his prime.
Hitler admired sharia law. Public library. Burn those motherfuckers.
German fraulein like them some African Black Mamba. Germany was full of gigantic dildos. Rampant pornography. Berlin.
What is worse? Changing your kid into a transformer or getting an extra head sewn on by Joseph Mengele. Everything is debatable.

“It’s time for Trump to go on offense. Put these Creep Staters in the docket and make them answer for their crimes against America. Investigate the shit out of the provenance of the FISA warrants. Coup accomplices must be punished, publicly, to prevent this happening again.”

WTH? Delusions of grandeur.

Trump IS Deep STATE. His first AG pick, Session, was Deep State than Trump double downs on full-blown mental retardation and picks BUSH’s AG for the NEW AG.

Wake the fuck up, patriots. Trump is a fraud. 4.5 million illegals will flood over the border this year alone with another .5 Million overstaying their visas.

That is enough to turn Florida, Texas and AZ blue.

You people have good intentions, but your “leaders” are really clueless as to the great betrayal.

Lay off the politics, you’re out of your league, and stick to “how-to” articles.

If you aren’t calculating how best to divorce you and yours from the ongoing civilizational failure across the West, you are wrong…
Masthead right there… Problem is people are still to comfortable and the almighty dollar still holds a lot of sway…I think the left is working on the divorce a lot harder than we are and they are wanting a 100% of our everything for their settlement… Conservatives will be caught by surprise like so many men because they haven’t been involved or paying attention to their marriage for a long time…Sad That People are so Dumb…

OT-but you should know. I am doing hospice care on a lady, who’s family was telling me about the grandson. Seems the kid was a first rate, mediocre, drug dabbler who “refused” to go to college. He had a friend who took him up to Idaho, and the 2-19 yro’s got into an apprentenship program for….lineman. All the family can talk about is how the kid has straightened up, works all of the time, loves his new job, loves life, etc. etc. Which proves what you have been talking about: young people need to find a skill, and get on with life. And the kid has made $60,000 while getting trained.

Communism on paper sounds good to the masses. Only one problem, they don’t recognize just how fucking greedy those leading the movement are.

Their promoting their self interests, not their comrades.

My observations are that it is the good guys are winning, communism is loosing, my simple model is the presidential election. They elected Obama, who is clearly a communist, even gave him eight years to ” enlighten” the population

Another communist Hilary was pre positioned to take power, and was soundly defeated by middle America. I just see this as the people saying FUCK YOUUUU, to communism.

It is men and women like folk here who fight daily to keep the light on what our govt is trying to do to the people. Subvert this great nation.

History has its ups and downs. communists have from time to time been elected, most were closet communist who knew better then to openly admit their ideology.

After those presidencies, We The People swiftly removed them from office. Their model of governance was just not excepted by a country who has known freedom.

“Communism on paper sounds good to the masses. Only one problem, they don’t recognize just how fucking greedy those leading the movement are. ”

Can’t remember who originally noted it, but there are two types of communists – those who actually believe in it, and those who just view it as a tactic. The former group are essentially harmless softheads. The latter group are exceedingly dangerous. Communism is really meant as a tool for acquiring absolute power; once that is achieved, all pretense of socialism will be abandoned for totalitarian control.

Barring an externally-caused kinetic event (nuke barrage, EMT), what is the trigger date of America’s internal destruction? One can use relative calculations as applied to political makeup, the biggest one being whether or not Trump is reelected.

Atlas is presently shrugging. Many folks have quietly gone Galt, become grey and dropped out of the system. They work enough to support themselves, they have eschewed materialism. They prepare for what will come.
In the novel the industrialists and other producers were at the mercy of the status quo, they had to be brought to their knees before they realized the futility of their actions. They were made to produce and care for those who hated them and guilt was the tool used to achieve that end.
“the willingness of the good to suffer at the hands of the evil, to accept the role of sacrificial victim for the ‘sin’ of creating values”
We are living the novel now. We have the producers made subordinate to the non-productive, this done by government decree. We have the media as nothing but parrots for the propaganda of the ‘social justice warriors’ and destruction of white people. Destroy the producers, destroy the arts, destroy the schools, destroy the family, destroy white people and destroy Christianity, that is the goal of the so-called Progressives aka: Communists. .
People are too comfortable and the cognitive dissonance is still strong. There are also generations that have been programmed and brainwashed and they will never change. The smart ones are shrugging, the stupid, well…..

I knew a guy who was a partner in a law firm. They needed to hire a black lawyer so they would qualify for government work. There is a shortage of qualified black lawyers. This causes black lawyers to be over paid. Supply and demand. My friend’s HR people had to hire a black law student, and put him on the payroll before he even graduated, so he wouldn’t be hired by someone else before he graduated. Supply and demand. He finally graduates (some how passes the bar) and is working at the law firm. He has his own office and other perks. Supply and demand. After 6 months my buddy inquires as to the progress of the new black lawyer. Finds out he hasn’t done any work and is being paid the same as a partner in the firm. Supply and demand. He is “let go”. Turns out the black guy wasn’t qualified to attend the law school. He gained access based on his skin color. His tests scores were always altered upward to ensure equal outcome with his peers. He graduated because they couldn’t flunk him. Do you have a black doctor?

Having been a member of the Admissions Committees in two different medicals schools I can tell you that Blacks typically gain admission with D+ (1.3) Grade Point Averages, while Whites and Asians need A (3.8-4.0) Grade Point Averages. Same gap for MCAT scores. Same gap even for admission to “prestigious” residency and fellowship programs.

Also, contrary to the assertions here of “higher IQ,” there was and still is a distinct favoritism shown in “choosing” certain lesser-qualified co-religionists over better-qualified (higher IQ, academic performance, test scores, and community service) candidates of other religions. You might say they were Chosen. Who is surprised?

We have one black Doctor in the ER where I work. He seems to have slightly below average knowledge and slightly below average skills compared to the other docs I’ve worked with, though I know part of that is that he mostly works rural and family medicine. His main problem is that he constantly falls asleep at the desk. I’ll have to wake him up no less than four or five times per hour, and I have to completely restate his first order to him after he wakes up, because 9/10 times he didn’t mean to give that order.

“Dr. Smith, you said you wanted 325mg of ASA for the 10 year old? Oh, you meant 200mg of Ibuprofen? That’s what I thought you meant.”

America is dead. Long live America. What do you do when you wake up to discover that the country you grew up in has slowly, quietly, but steadily been taken away from you? The process of demographic and economic change in the United States has been underway for the better part of a century, yet the consequences of minority-majority status and the demolition of middle class jobs and communities has begun to force the hand of the great American middle. How the country unravels is uncertain, but the die has been cast, and in the view of John Mark, who joins us tonight to discuss how a breakup of the United States will occur, believes setting the stage for avoiding the mistakes that led to the pernicious problems in the West can be addressed by the implementation of a combination of the principles of Propertarianism and some good old fashioned resolve against the forces of the Left. — Brought to you by — Very special guest John Mark https://johnmarksays.com/

To put it bluntly, when TSHTF it’s NOT going to
go like webber John Mark or his narcissistic sociopath
mentor Curt Doolittle think it will.

propertarianism is the mutated downs syndrome
fetus that slimed it’s way out of the rotting corpse
of loliburtarianism..it’s even more retarded than
Larken Rose attempting to debate Lauren Southern
on the issue of open borders.

FYI, Doolittle is definitely a fucking squirrel mentally
and should NOT be trusted..and his media boy should
be looked at with extreme suspicion..he comes out of
nowhere with a very expensively produced media op…
sounds like controlled opposition to me!

Wow, to all laugh if you must, but I email my elected officials AND the president weekly. Left without citizen instruction the consequences F their actions is what’s happening.

My last three emails to the president have instructed him to transport all illegals to Santuary cities, put the turd in The left’s pockets. Want border change hang the consequence of their fucking actions around the left’s neck.

Second is I’ve harped on him to turn the tide, the restraints are off now, Mueller? Is now behind him. To survive he must hunt then like the cockroaches they are. Find then stomp on them.

I’ve also suggested that he release EVERYTHING, us Americans are tough we can make informed choices based on the tangable evidence. I’ve asked that he do a lengthy overview lay everything out, document by document.
Show his work.

Continue to keep the economy rolling. I believe keeping MAGA going is a winner. mAGA hats are everywhere around here. Admittedly it’s just these mountain folk telling the left to fuck off.

Trump needs to figure out a way to address the press. He gets it, can be no attempt at sensoring the media. Govt, can in no way shape or form be granted this roll. I sometimes think I have a solution but after rolling the idea around I realize it’s a no go.

My state elected turds also get email from me. Usually starts out something lke this, ” hey Loser, what you fucking up this week” I’m pretty sure they don’t care for my ” Tone”.

Surprisingly I get the canned return email from the assclowns thanking me for my input. Their welcome. I’m not telling them anything they don’t know.

Many here will laugh at my tactic, fuck you. I still believe in this great nation. I see that we got in this position because we let the pols run free. We were all to busy raising family’s working 60/80 hour weeks. We were to busy providing, to pay close attention.

This shit sandwich is our faults. It’s my hope that my input helps change things, in some small way.

The position of most here is o my were done as a nation,,,,,,,,fuck that. It ain’t over until it’s over. I chose not to piss in my Wheaties, to try to make positive change for all.

Ya I know I’m pissing in the wind. Yet I feel a responsibility to continue with my tiny contribution.

Having worked in DC, I can assure that you don’t. You e-mail their unpaid interns weekly. And for most topics under the sun, the replies are already pre-generated. The most any constituent correspondence gets noted as is as a tick in the “for” or “against” column on any particular issue. They couldn’t care less.

Unless, of course, you are a major donor. Then, you might actually get listened to, politely, before being ignored. Unless, of course, you are a *MAJOR* donor.

It is time to re-read this essay if you have not already done so. It is by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, and it is absolutely relevant to the topic at hand, as well as to our individual relationships with the world and all that is and who is in it.

*vaporized the borders
*admitted millions of illegals
*cut deportation of same by half
*doubled down on dot-Indian shitskin insourcing, tripled down on “refugee resettlement” shitskin insourcing
*reinforced the “sanctuary cities”
released scores of thousands of Black thugs from prison, and

energized the (((hardLeft))) and its entitlement groups, while
smothering the Right.

I used to work at a pulp mill in a corporate environment. It was non-union but still followed the progressive doctrine to a fault.
We had two new hires on the team, one black female and one black male. When it was time to dole out the new pay levels for which they would qualify in the team meeting, (one level 3 pay grade and one level 4 pay grade) management announced that the black female would receive the higher level 4 pay grade because she was a female.
As we were leaving the meeting I asked the black male employee “Well, Pokey, how do you like affirmative action now?” All the reply I received was silence and a blank stare.

Might be edifying and worth your while
listening to the following which is related
to this topic and I quote again:

“There’s also the fact that America has been a social democracy for close to a century now. Mostly what the Right in America has done since WW2 is perpetuate a fantasy that is not based in fact. Just about every aspect of American life is socialized to some degree.”

There is no area of American life where the state does not play an active role and there is no redistributive goal of their involvement. The core of both parties, both sides of the ruling class, is packed to the gills with central planners. Their only dispute is about the resulting patronage.