I was at the shop this afternoon, and we got to talking politics. The bailout was a big topic, as well as the debates. Most the guys still like Palin because she's quite the MILF. We were talking about what we liked and disliked about each of the respective candidates. While I'm not happy with either choice, I don't like the prospect of skyrocketing taxes for pie in the sky programs, lax enforcement of immigration law, and basically having someone in the office of President that would be a "rubber stamp" for any bill Ms. Pelosi puts in front of him.

There was a person in the showroom about 10 feet away that came up to me and said I was a "dirty racist". We were all a bit stunned by it. He went into a tirade of how Obama is so great (messiah complex) and how I didn't support him because I was a racist. He said my term "rubber stamp" was an offensive reference to slavery and how I was just another redneck racist. Wow. Before I could really say anything, this person huffed off and left the shop.

Is "rubber stamp" some secret code for a racist remark and I'm just ignorant of that, or was that person just crazy?

The Police were called to a residence down here for a reported "Hate Crime" in progress. When they arrived they found a rather large African American woman screaming at a Hispanic Man and his even larger wife. The Police seperated all and asked what the problem was. The Black woman had been following the two in their pickup when she noticed a Calvin sticker on the back of their truck. You know the sticker. The one where Calvin is peeing on something. Well theirs had Calvin peeing on Obama. The Black woman was screaming that they were racist and that was a hate crime and wanted the police to arrest them.

Seems like even the media is afraid to say anything bad about him for the same fear.

I wore my Bikers for McCain shirt to TGIF's last night. While most people seemed to pay no attention, there were a couple of folks that looked like they wanted to say something- including one waiter who looked like he was trying to stare me down. I guess I'm glad noone said anything, especially after I'd had a few beverages. It might not have gone well.

And what if I just don't like you,,, What class does that fall in??? ........................ Pete

That depends... If I am white, then you are justified. If I am of a "minority" then you are a dirty racist because it is obvious that the ONLY reason you don't like me is because of my race.
The view today seems to be that if I am a minority and am not getting my way it is because everyone is a racist.

I have two uncles and an aunt by blood, not marriage, who are what one would call "yellow dog democrats". They would vote for a yellow dog if he were the only democrat running. They are conservative, but won't ever vote republican. Lincoln was a republican and started the War of Northern Aggression. This still runs DEEP in the old south. During the Primaries, my older uncle wouldn't vote for Hillary or Obama. He swore he wasn't going to vote. The younger uncle and my aunt weren't supporters of either candidate, but I think they held their noses and pulled the lever. I didn't ask for who. They wouldn't have told me. I guess if all that makes them racists or members of the He-Man Woman Haters Club, then so be it. It isn't PC. It's a fact of life and it goes both ways.

I'm not voting for Obama because he's a Socialist. I'm holding my nose and voting for McCain.

Latest radio ad here says McCain will push for taxing health insurance coverage from your employer...meaning if your employer covers any part of your health insurance, you will be taxed for that amount as income, and the remainder you pay with *after tax* dollars.

Now, my family coverage costs $13000, and I pay $3700 of that *pre*-tax
With new proposal, I'd get $5000 tax credit, leaving me to pay $8000 *after* tax to get same coverage. We all know that costs won't just drop 40-50% to make the difference "a wash for most workers"

So, with this new McCain proposal, sure I will be paying *less* taxes, but overall I'd have *less* in my pocket after paying for my health insurance. About $6000/yr less in my pocket.

Anyone ever point out that the President does not initiate Health Care legislation? It doesn't matter which party they are part of, it is Congress that sends proposals to the President.

It was Congress that said it was a great idea for all Americans that business could deduct health care costs and people who received them wouldn't have to pay taxes on the benefits they received.

Couple that with socialized medicine where the uninsured pay 2-3 times what insured people pay to compensate for people who can't afford any medical expenses.

Great national health care systems--wait 8 hours at the hospital to get admitted; need to get admitted to an ER, better be taken there by ambulance, cause if somebody takes you there, you'll wait 2-6 hours to be seen. Need help during nurse change over, it only takes an hour. Come out of an operation two hours after the nurses give out meds and instead of getting your pain meds once every 4 hours, as proscribed, you'll wait 6 hours so that you're on the nurse's schedule.

Get sent home from the hospital with wrong prescriptions because the nurse didn't stumble across the changes the doctor made while you were there? Have to pay for them your self and then buy the correct ones cause you don't have insurance? Too bad! Did the ER doc order 1K$ of tests that turn out negative that weren't related to what you were being treated for, with out talking to you. Too bad! Pay up and take the hospital to small claims court (they blame the doctor who doesn't work for the hospital) or else your credit score indicates you don't pay your bills and then you get to pay more for any loans you need.

Makes perfect sense to me. Let's spend Billions and Billions on the health and welfare for foreign governments, Billions for Ear Marks, and Billions bailing out people living in hurricane and flood areas before we spend one "red" cent on the health of Americans.

Just remember when they start hollerin how the world will come to an end with government health care, they all have government health care.

I was at the shop this afternoon, and we got to talking politics. The bailout was a big topic, as well as the debates. Most the guys still like Palin because she's quite the MILF. We were talking about what we liked and disliked about each of the respective candidates. While I'm not happy with either choice, I don't like the prospect of skyrocketing taxes for pie in the sky programs, lax enforcement of immigration law, and basically having someone in the office of President that would be a "rubber stamp" for any bill Ms. Pelosi puts in front of him.

There was a person in the showroom about 10 feet away that came up to me and said I was a "dirty racist". We were all a bit stunned by it. He went into a tirade of how Obama is so great (messiah complex) and how I didn't support him because I was a racist. He said my term "rubber stamp" was an offensive reference to slavery and how I was just another redneck racist. Wow. Before I could really say anything, this person huffed off and left the shop.

Is "rubber stamp" some secret code for a racist remark and I'm just ignorant of that, or was that person just crazy?

No question, the guy is crazy... but I'm wondering about your sanity if you're willing to let the Republicans run things for another 4 to 8 years considering where the current adminisatration has taken the country in the last 8. Have you been paying attention? Also, I think your characterization of Obama is way off base. Sounds like you've been actually believing the McCain campaign (Karl Rove's) rhetoric rather than checking the facts. But, if that's what floats your boat, go for it.

That depends... If I am white, then you are justified. If I am of a "minority" then you are a dirty racist because it is obvious that the ONLY reason you don't like me is because of my race.
The view today seems to be that if I am a minority and am not getting my way it is because everyone is a racist.

I have two uncles and an aunt by blood, not marriage, who are what one would call "yellow dog democrats". They would vote for a yellow dog if he were the only democrat running. They are conservative, but won't ever vote republican. Lincoln was a republican and started the War of Northern Aggression. This still runs DEEP in the old south. During the Primaries, my older uncle wouldn't vote for Hillary or Obama. He swore he wasn't going to vote. The younger uncle and my aunt weren't supporters of either candidate, but I think they held their noses and pulled the lever. I didn't ask for who. They wouldn't have told me. I guess if all that makes them racists or members of the He-Man Woman Haters Club, then so be it. It isn't PC. It's a fact of life and it goes both ways.

I'm not voting for Obama because he's a Socialist. I'm holding my nose and voting for McCain.

And what's George Bush, who just pleaded and begged and whined to have Wall Street bailed out? What does that make him if not a socialist? Puhleeze.

George Bush has failed what the Republican party has stood for and should be banished from the party.

I think George Bush failed at what America has stood for. Now all of a sudden the Republicans, who went along with him on just about everything for the last eight years, want to banish him...just in time for the election? Cool move. I think it's a little too late. But who knows, maybe the next Republican will be better.

I think George Bush failed at what America has stood for. Now all of a sudden the Republicans, who went along with him on just about everything for the last eight years, want to banish him...just in time for the election? Cool move. I think it's a little too late. But who knows, maybe the next Republican will be better.

I wouldn't say 8 years. The last 3 for sure. Especially the last 2. Almost surreal.

"Estimated"? By whom? And what do you think the percentage is that would vote against Obama based on race alone? Not sure what your point is.

My understanding is that 95% of blacks will vote for "Obama" because he is 50% black (or at least 50% white?)...now THAT is racist!!!!

Furthermore, you dem's have control of both houses and would/ will not get anything positive done......perhaps to intentionally make everything doom and gloom to improve the dem’s chances of winning? That is trribly sad and unpatriotic.

Also, check the history of what party and persons PUSHED for Fanny and Freddy, FORCING banks to make loans to people that had NO WAY of paying, check it out, or keep your blinders on. Preferential treatement? I think THAT is racist.

Obama truly is a two faced & well spoken professional politician, and in my opinion a socialist and very, very, bad man.

My understanding is that 95% of blacks will vote for "Obama" because he is 50% black (or at least 50% white?)...now THAT is racist!!!!

Furthermore, you dem's have control of both houses and would/ will not get anything positive done......perhaps to intentionally make everything doom and gloom to improve the dem’s chances of winning? That is trribly sad and unpatriotic.

Also, check the history of what party and persons PUSHED for Fanny and Freddy, FORCING banks to make loans to people that had NO WAY of paying, check it out, or keep your blinders on. Preferential treatement? I think THAT is racist.

Obama truly is a two faced & well spoken professional politician, and in my opinion a socialist and very, very, bad man.

"Your understanding is?" Wow, that sounds factual. And if you're not into voting for two faced politicians, I don't think you're going to find much relief by voting for McCain. As for blinders, I would suggest yours must have been on for the past 8 years if you want more of the same. Good luck.

"Your understanding is?" Wow, that sounds factual. And if you're not into voting for two faced politicians, I don't think you're going to find much relief by voting for McCain. As for blinders, I would suggest yours must have been on for the past 8 years if you want more of the same. Good luck.

There is no magnitude of facts, data, or proof that could educate a stubborn cuss like you. Typical, ignore the facts and dance around them, ignored the Fanny-Freddy comments…...You make your own luck, who will you then blame?

There is no magnitude of facts, data, or proof that could educate a stubborn cuss like you. Typical, ignore the facts and dance around them, ignored the Fanny-Freddy comments…...You make your own luck, who will you then blame?

Is "rubber stamp" some secret code for a racist remark and I'm just ignorant of that, or was that person just crazy?

Crazy... Like a fox. You haven't seen anything yet. The next few weeks should prove quite interesting. On "Meet The Press" this AM there was quite a segment about negative campaigning "tearing the country apart" without coming out and dropping the "R" word. It is on everyone's mind whether or not people want to admit it.

The sad truth is that there is an estimated 30% of the people
that will vote for Obama based on his race alone!

Of course that's alright, as we were told in "diversity training"
black people can't be prejudice,
what a crock!

First things first, I don't know if the originally poster is racist, but for him, don't worry about what people call you, if you are you are, and if you're not you're not. It's more important if you know where you stand, good, bad or indifferent.

30% of people would not vote for Obama just because he's Black, What an ignorant statement. If being Black was a formula for being President we would have way more Black candidates and and at least one Black President by now, so sorry but not true.

However, it is true that Black people can be racist too (imagine that), how dare they.

There is no magnitude of facts, data, or proof that could educate a stubborn cuss like you. Typical, ignore the facts and dance around them, ignored the Fanny-Freddy comments…...You make your own luck, who will you then blame?

You don't understand the policy correctly. You will be better off. If you're in the 28% tax bracket the tax credit will offset approximately $18,000 in income, the 33% bracket would be $15,000 in income.

Since your insurance cost $13,000 and your already paying part of that you wouldn't get the whole $5,000 as a tax credit but you would still get about $2,800 as a credit. That is like getting the last $10,000 of your income Tax Free.

I'm not saying I agree with the program but everyone should at least make sure they understand what they are voting for or against.

Kevin

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Originally Posted by sparky_k1200lt

Latest radio ad here says McCain will push for taxing health insurance coverage from your employer...meaning if your employer covers any part of your health insurance, you will be taxed for that amount as income, and the remainder you pay with *after tax* dollars.

Now, my family coverage costs $13000, and I pay $3700 of that *pre*-tax
With new proposal, I'd get $5000 tax credit, leaving me to pay $8000 *after* tax to get same coverage. We all know that costs won't just drop 40-50% to make the difference "a wash for most workers"

So, with this new McCain proposal, sure I will be paying *less* taxes, but overall I'd have *less* in my pocket after paying for my health insurance. About $6000/yr less in my pocket.

I should of said 100% were "elected" not voted. Hopefully you got my point.

Michael

Michael

Hi Michael,

Since Ms. Fulani got only about .2 percent of the vote, at least 99.8% voted white. That surely rounds to 100%. And yes I did get your point. I was just playing a bit with the word fact.

I am a little confused on the percentages thrown around here, and this is not directed at you. If 88% and 90% of the black vote went to the Democrats the last two elections, and possibly only 70% going to Obama, how is that black people being racist? I would think it would be at least 90% simply due to political party history.

I was at the shop this afternoon, and we got to talking politics. The bailout was a big topic, as well as the debates. Most the guys still like Palin because she's quite the MILF. We were talking about what we liked and disliked about each of the respective candidates. While I'm not happy with either choice, I don't like the prospect of skyrocketing taxes for pie in the sky programs, lax enforcement of immigration law, and basically having someone in the office of President that would be a "rubber stamp" for any bill Ms. Pelosi puts in front of him.

There was a person in the showroom about 10 feet away that came up to me and said I was a "dirty racist". We were all a bit stunned by it. He went into a tirade of how Obama is so great (messiah complex) and how I didn't support him because I was a racist. He said my term "rubber stamp" was an offensive reference to slavery and how I was just another redneck racist. Wow. Before I could really say anything, this person huffed off and left the shop.

Is "rubber stamp" some secret code for a racist remark and I'm just ignorant of that, or was that person just crazy?

That's funny, I was just reading about this on another site: HERE So I guess, yeah, you're a flaming racist afterall! (along with a WHOOOLE bunch of us )

You know, this is a rather racist comment in and of itself when you take a moment to think about it.
Just an FYI, but although as a percentage, fewer whites are living below poverty in the U.S., the overall number is BY FAR higher than either Blacks or Hispanics. (at least the legal ones) It is also true that when you look at Welfare recipients, there are more Whites collecting benefits than non-Whites. It's also interesting that Asians are such a small percentage - and actually are the highest income earners in America now.
I think it's very insensitive when you allow your political positions to "color" (pun intended ) your views on race and racism. To judge, or in this case marginalize, people like you have in this post, is wrong, regardless of what color skin they have - the definition of racism.

....There was a person in the showroom about 10 feet away that came up to me and said I was a "dirty racist"....

If Mr ultra-liberal drama king would have taken a second to check all the emotion, he would have realized that it's IMPOSSIBLE to be a racist when you HATE EVERYONE EQUALLY!

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Originally Posted by gpolakow

....I'm wondering about your sanity if you're willing to let the Republicans run things for another 4 to 8 years considering where the current adminisatration has taken the country in the last 8. Have you been paying attention? Also, I think your characterization of Obama is way off base....

I think his characterization of "THE Messiah" is spot on! Not that, after this week, with McSenile's ENDORSEMENT and "The Evil W's" signing of OVER ONE TRILLION DOLLARS in WORTHLESS PORK, it makes a shit bit of difference!!

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Originally Posted by gpolakow

And what's George Bush, who just pleaded and begged and whined to have Wall Street bailed out? What does that make him if not a socialist? Puhleeze.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eljeffe

George Bush has failed what the Republican party has stood for and should be banished from the party.

Yeah Greg, you called it. Between McSenile's support and "The Evil W's" signing of this WORTHLESS PoS pork bill, I really do not know who the bigger/biggest socialist is?

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Originally Posted by donsobeck

It sure is nice to see how many people don'T squat on how THIS country government is put together and ran, try reading the CONSTITUTION.

Constitution? Does anyone know what he is talking about, here?

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Originally Posted by kevincook

....You don't understand the policy correctly. You will be better off. If you're in the 28% tax bracket the tax credit will offset approximately $18,000 in income, the 33% bracket would be $15,000 in income.

Since your insurance cost $13,000 and your already paying part of that you wouldn't get the whole $5,000 as a tax credit but you would still get about $2,800 as a credit. That is like getting the last $10,000 of your income Tax Free....

As near as I can figure it Kevin, with my extremely micro-brain, your summation is accurate and McSenile's plan would be beneficial. BUT, that is not the point. The point is that a REAL MAVERICK would support ELIMINATION of the tax code and with it, all this socialist engineering.

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Originally Posted by gunny

....Obama's father was 1/4 black and 3/4 arab. That makes him 1/2 white, 1/8 black and the rest arab....

I don't get all this talk of race. We've already had our first black president, anyway (Slick Willie).

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Some really OLD friggin' White dude who couldn't have possibly known what he was talking about!) WARNING: Official HATE speech! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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