Re: Any BS's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

Wetshaving, yes, all my attempts at electric shaving failed to be close and accurate. But, while I never tried straight razor yet (problematic because of the purchase possibilities of high quality straight razors where I live), I do wet shave daily, mainly alternating between DE and multiblade.

Re: Any BS's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

I've found that electric gives me rashes under the chin, so I learned to wetshave with a safety-razor and once you get the knack, find the roight products and observe the rituals, it seems like a more skin-friendly affair. More fun, too. Some day I may take a course in straight-razor shaving, I dare not try on my own for fear of ending up a scarface.

Re: Any BS's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

Originally Posted by the_good_life

Some day I may take a course in straight-razor shaving, I dare not try on my own for fear of ending up a scarface.

Scarface is an exaggeration, but nick-face wouldn't be - at least that's the case if using a shavette.
One needs lots of Alum handy to stop the copious blood flow (and yes, I did study Youtube Videos).
Cheers,
Renato

Re: Any BN's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

DE for me. I own a Gillette Slim Adjustable, a Gillette Tech, a Merkur 34c, and a Gillette Old Type. I have my eye on a Weber DLC when they release their next batch. My favourite blade currently is Astra SPs (green packet) and I have a badger, a boar and a horsehair brush. In terms of software, I'm getting on rather well with Italian soft soaps these days: Cella, Proraso etc.

Re: Any BN's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

I use a Parker R31 double edge I believe, and use feathers or shark super chrome blades with a badger brush and geo.f. Trumpers shaving cream. Since switching to using a DE, I stopped getting razor bumps or irritation and I can shave every day. I'm pretty skilled at shaving, but whenever I get too comfortable I give myself a nice present in the form of a gush of blood lol.

Re: Any BN's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

I'm using a merkur 38c, the pilot heads were too aggresive for my face. I recommend a merkur because the heads are more forgiving, only if I stop paying attention will I cut myself. My suggestion is to take extra car in making a good lather and use a pre shave oil. Check out youtube videos for lathering techniques and the bader and blade website.

I took up wet shaving and made it the cornerstone of my morning ritual. As weird as it sound its almost spiritual to me. I feel "off" if I don't start my day with a good clean shave. Makes me feel like a million bucks.

Re: Any BN's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

I'm using a merkur 38c, the pilot heads were too aggresive for my face. I recommend a merkur because the heads are more forgiving, only if I stop paying attention will I cut myself.

I haven't tried the 38C, but have tried Merkurs 25C, 33C, Slant and Bakelite. The Bakelite is very aggressive, while I'd rate the 33C head as mid range on the aggressive/mild scale.

Milder razors I've tried include the old Gillette Tech, which is mild with any blade and works well with any cream, and is less likely to nick than the Merkur 33C.

Clones of the old Gillette Tech, like the Lord L5/122 and the Indian made Gillette Sterling are milder than the original.
Milder still is my Weber DLC razor.
In fact, the Gillette Sterling and Weber DLC were so mild on me that I had to use very sharp blades like Astra SPs and Feathers to make them work well.
Also I've had issues getting a close shave from the Lord L5, Gillette Sterling and Weber DLC when I've used ultra slippery creams like Trumpers shave cream, but they've been excellent with lather from a soap puck or less slippery creams.

Which is why I rate the Merkur 33C head as more aggressive than the aforementioned, as it doesn't have those issues.
Regards,
Renato

Re: Any BN's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

I am in my fourth year of trying to find an "ultimate" shaver. Cannot count all of the Gillettes and blades I tried over the years.
Fat boys (2 off), slim and black beauty adjustables, various techs, superspeeds, red tip and even an English Rocket. Nothing really satisfied me in terms of a great comphortable shave.
No matter what I do and how careful I am in preparation I always get nicks. Really frustrates me. Cannot understand what I am doing wrong. I use the best creams/soaps, badger brush, quality blades from Gillettes of all sorts to Astras, Merkurs, BiCs, Derbys, Personnas-I tried them all.
I am getting really frustrated. Even tried sheavette learning from the Youtube. I made a really big cut on my cheek and gave up.
The only razor that I was completely satisfied with was a Japanese KAI II double blade cartridge razor. No nicks, cuts, rash, bumps, ingrown hairs - nothing, just a perfect shave. The only problem with KAI was that it was superseded a couple of years ago. The one I had I bought in Singapore (at Mustafa's) and this is THE ultimate shaver.
I even contacted a company in Japan and asked if they can sell some to me. The answer was, sorry, cannot do, but we can send you a few packs as a sample.
I cherished every cartridge I had, but all gone now. Sad, I know...
I resorted to Gillette Sensor Excell these days and BiC Metals but nothing can beat KAI for quality of the shave. Don't know what it is: steel quality, sharpness, blade angle-I could hear the sound of the blades cutting my hair, simply unbelievable.
If anyone know where I could get KAI II from I would greatly appreciate that.
Cheers,
Alex

Re: Any BN's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

No matter what I do and how careful I am in preparation I always get nicks. Really frustrates me. Cannot understand what I am doing wrong.
Alex

Hi Alex,
I had to chuckle at the way one of us exactly duplicated the other's adventure with a shavette.

If you always get nicks have you tried,
a. Using either olive oil or Art of Shaving Pre-Shave oil (in tiny amounts) - they certainly reduces the incidence of nicks from average soaps and average shave creams, or
b. Tried King Of Shaves - Azor Advanced Shaving Gel? Amazingly, with a DE blade I got zero stings from an Alum block after I used the gel, and my best soaps and creams always give me alum stings (even if I have no visible nicks).

Re: Any BN's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

Re: Any BN's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

Originally Posted by Renato

Hi Alex,
I had to chuckle at the way one of us exactly duplicated the other's adventure with a shavette.

If you always get nicks have you tried,
a. Using either olive oil or Art of Shaving Pre-Shave oil (in tiny amounts) - they certainly reduces the incidence of nicks from average soaps and average shave creams, or
b. Tried King Of Shaves - Azor Advanced Shaving Gel? Amazingly, with a DE blade I got zero stings from an Alum block after I used the gel, and my best soaps and creams always give me alum stings (even if I have no visible nicks).

I own a few pre shave oils, and the art of shaving is the worst. It's far too thick and causes the blade to clog, causing way too much resistance and therefore butchering your face. I'm not a fan. King of shaves or jack black beard lube are acceptable replacements, but I feel that a good lather is best.

Re: Any BN's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

Thanks Renato, I might try some of the pre-shave oils mate.

Not sure if I am using what you called an "average" shave creams or soaps. Currently I am using Italian Palmolive (menthol), Trumper's Rose cream, Dr. Harris Arlington and Tabac shaving soap. I thought those are pretty good... I use Alum block as well plus various aftershaves and balms (Musgo Real, Nivea Sensitive, Skin food, etc.)

As I said in my previous post: I just cannot figure out what I am doing wrong. Unless it's my skin (but KAI II did work perfectly).

Renato, I read your post on B&B, great read. I've also encountered Colonel Conk locally (but haven't used personally), saw some creams and soaps at Crabtree and Evelyn, L'Occitane, Trumper's at Ludlow's and MensBiz.com, TOBS on Collins St.
Certainly, there is a good variety of creams can be had in Melbourne in addition to the ones you've mentioned.
Happy shaving,
Alex

Re: Any BN's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

Originally Posted by Erok32

I own a few pre shave oils, and the art of shaving is the worst. It's far too thick and causes the blade to clog, causing way too much resistance and therefore butchering your face. I'm not a fan. King of shaves or jack black beard lube are acceptable replacements, but I feel that a good lather is best.

If you check the reviews at Badger & Blade - everyone for pages totally rubbishes AOS pre-shave oil as the worst, most hopeless thing ever. Then someone says the trick is to use a very tiny amount of it. Then most of the reviews become glowing.

That's what I found to be the case - it is hopeless if too much is applied. Shame they didn't make that point obvious on the bottle.
Cheers,
Renato

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Originally Posted by Alex

Thanks Renato, I might try some of the pre-shave oils mate.

Not sure if I am using what you called an "average" shave creams or soaps. Currently I am using Italian Palmolive (menthol), Trumper's Rose cream, Dr. Harris Arlington and Tabac shaving soap. I thought those are pretty good... I use Alum block as well plus various aftershaves and balms (Musgo Real, Nivea Sensitive, Skin food, etc.)

As I said in my previous post: I just cannot figure out what I am doing wrong. Unless it's my skin (but KAI II did work perfectly).

Renato, I read your post on B&B, great read. I've also encountered Colonel Conk locally (but haven't used personally), saw some creams and soaps at Crabtree and Evelyn, L'Occitane, Trumper's at Ludlow's and MensBiz.com, TOBS on Collins St.
Certainly, there is a good variety of creams can be had in Melbourne in addition to the ones you've mentioned.
Happy shaving,
Alex

Hi Alex,
You have top notch shaving creams and soaps. Trumpers Sandalwood is my gold standard in terms of slipperiness in creams (Crabtree& Evelyn is the runner-up to date). The only thing I've found more slippery is the goo gel that comes out of the 5 blade Schick Hydro cartridges. Tabac soap isn't as slippery, and the cushioning effect of its tallow (that many rave) about continues to elude me. I can't see much difference between it and other vegetable soaps.

Yes, we have heaps of foreign creams available in Melbourne, but they're pretty expensive - what I was trying to show was that the very moderately priced Aussie made ones were on par with the very expensive foreign ones.

Basically, I first went off DE shaving for decades because it would take 5 days of nicks before my English made Wilkinson Sword blade finally came good and stopped nicking me, and it then stayed good for the next two weeks. With Astra SPs, I've done 15 shaves before it finally has nearly stopped nicking me - and that is with it in my second mildest razor.http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthr...ndard-SS-Blade

Have you tried using Supermax Stainless Steel (the cheapest blades you can find on Ebay) or Gillette Super Thin Stainless Steel? You may get a nick on the first shave, but they are nowhere near as vicious as Feather and Astra SP blades, and are fine on the second and subsequent shaves. The only problem they have is that if you use them in a really mild razor - like some Gillette Tech clones - with Trumpers cream, they don't shave very close at all. And they are absolutely hopeless in my mildest razor, my Weber DLC, with any soap or cream, which needs a Feather or Astra`SP to deliver a close nickless shave - I can't nick myself with it.

It's a good thing I don't work in Melbourne anymore, I shudder to think what my collection would be like if I still did.

Re: Any BN's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

Originally Posted by gandhajala

No kidding ! You've really been bitten by the shaving bug. Great to read your posts here and on B&B, mate.

Thanks. In part it's the hobby and in part it's the forums. People here and at B&B are a pretty genial lot which engenders enthusiasm. Other forums, like a photographic equipment forum I visit, have nice people too, but also seem to have people who one wonders if they ever communicate with anybody in day to day life.
Cheers,
Renato

Re: Any BN's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

Yeah been wet shaving for nearly a year now and haven't looked back, got an Edwin Jagger DE89L nice razor comfortable and very efficient. I got a set of various blades to try out as well, highly recommend Derby blades and Astra SP's for beginners and then progress to Feathers

Re: Any BN's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

I could never not wet shave. I prefer a straight razor for the best shave, but it did take some practice. Love it though. I shave my head too and neither the straight or the DE work very well for this, so I have to bust out the Gillette cart for the head.

Re: Any BN's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

Originally Posted by KSG

Yeah been wet shaving for nearly a year now and haven't looked back, got an Edwin Jagger DE89L nice razor comfortable and very efficient. I got a set of various blades to try out as well, highly recommend Derby blades and Astra SP's for beginners and then progress to Feathers

I use this razor as well with the Ninja sharp feather blades and it gives you that baby smooth close shave everytime. Though I do have a alum block close at hand just in case.

Re: Any BN's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

Straight razor user here!!

I have a quarter grind Le Grelot, two Filly's and a Puma. All superb shavers that I've been using continuously since 2005 Shame I can't add these to my BN wardrobe!!

I use traditional shaving soap for the shave exclusively. I haven't used a cream in years. I'll never go back to the twenty-blade system (or whatever it is now) and the canned goo. My face is in much better shape since I started this 'hobby'!

Re: Any BN's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

After wet shaving for 6 or 8 months, I have to admit that I can't decide which I prefer - DE or cartridge.
Even most of the 3 and 4 blade disposable razors are pretty good.
The Persona 2 blade disposable is good, but I'm unimpressed with all the other 2 blade and single blade disposables I've tried.
The single blade Gillette Guard system that is being sold in India works quite impressively too.

One thing I have noticed is that all the gooey cartridge razors (e.g Schick Hydro) don't shave close enough with the high quality slippery creams. Instead they work better with soaps and cheap canned stuff.

With DE I've found that I really don't like the ultra sharp blades like Astra SPs - even though I get 20+ shaves out of one. I actually like milder blades like Shark Stainless Steel, or something in between like Gillette Super Thins or Supermax Stainless Steel.
Regards,
Renato

Re: Any BN's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

I find DE shaving more economical as I only get one shave out of a disposable razor blade compared to eight out of a feather blade. I did a calculation that for £10 I could buy 15 decent disposables and get 15 shaves. Or by four packs of razors which have ten blades in them and get 320 shaves. No brainer for me.

Re: Any BN's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

Yep, DE/SE man here. Been at it for almost 4 years.
I got into it as cartridges (or more likely the canned goo) gave me some ingrowns on my neck area.
The best thing about it, though, is that I now enjoy shaving.
I have turned what was once a chore into an enjoyable hobby.
No more getting yelled at by the gf because I look dishevelled. Now I'm clean shaven almost every single day.

Razors - Merkur Futur and Slanthammer are my go-to DEs. Use them with Feathers and Personnas (both Lab and Red IP).
Gem Open Comb MicroMatic and Henckels Rapide are my go-to SEs. Use them with Gem SE blades.

Software is different every day.
I've got about 150 different soaps and creams (plus a good few samples) to use up at some stage.
P.160 soft type and Tabac soap are always on my bathroom counter, though.

Re: Any BN's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

Originally Posted by Jack Hunter

I find DE shaving more economical as I only get one shave out of a disposable razor blade compared to eight out of a feather blade. I did a calculation that for £10 I could buy 15 decent disposables and get 15 shaves. Or by four packs of razors which have ten blades in them and get 320 shaves. No brainer for me.

Interesting how we vary.
I got 10 shaves out of a Gillette Fusion cartridge, before I bought a Razorpit, and it's up to about 20 shaves now. At B&B, people are only using the cartridge for 3 to six shaves.
And I apply the disposables to the Razorpit, and I haven't disposed of any of them yet.

But then again, I've only gotten rid of one DE blade during the entire period too.

At the rate I'm going, I have a life time's supply of DE blades, and a life time's supply of cartridge and disposables.
Cheers,
Renato

Re: Any BN's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

I use a double edge safety razor. I have an Gillette Aristocrat, a few different Gillette Superspeeds, a gillette Fatboy, and a Merkur HD. I also have 2 Gems that are single edge.
I enjoy using an old Gillette, a nice Badger brush, and some good shaving soap or cream. It is also much cheaper in the long run to use D/E blades. I also love the variety of D/E blades available. I have used Feather, Derby, Merkur, Dorco, and Astra.

I actually bought 100 Astra blades for $15 shipped. That is probably about the price of 4 cartridges of Gillettes newest and baddest 10 blader.

Re: Any BN's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

i have a merkur slant bar with feather blades....it works good for the side of my face but for the neck and around the chin and upper lip i use a standard mach 3.(my features are so chizled around the jaw and neck it is hard to get a flat plane to glide double edge against.

Re: Any BN's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

I've been getting slack lately. All that brushing business.
I'm finding that many of the creams work nearly as well by just putting them on, rubbing them in, and not bothering to brush.
Regards,
Renato

Re: Any BN's into wetshaving? Straight razor or double edged?

Originally Posted by Renato

I've been getting slack lately. All that brushing business.
I'm finding that many of the creams work nearly as well by just putting them on, rubbing them in, and not bothering to brush.
Regards,
Renato

How do you re-lather? I use the brush as a cream/soap reservoir for subsequent passes. I presume you resquirt from the tube, which seems just as much palaver as re-applying from the brush?