Already been evidence of pre-Big Bang radiation that looks an awful lot like another universe collided with this one possibly creating the Big Bang itself. Also theories that this is how other universes are created. That outside our universe if we were able to go to such a place exists other 'bubbles' where the other universes exist. When the bubbles collide you get things such as The big Bang. Makes sense to me.

His Shadow be upon you, Unbelieving Child of Light! Or something. I don't care. Neither does the universe. One of my firmer theological beliefs is that the Universe does not play favourites.

"All things come alike to all", as Scriptures put it. God sends his Sun and his rain upon the wicked and the righteous alike.

Some people, Job's Comforter types and Church Ladies, mostly, think that God punishes the wicked and rewards the good every day with disasters for the unrighteous and wealth and American flags for the righteous.

To paraphase Morbo the News Monster, "GOD DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY!"

God so loves the world that he letteth it alone to go its own way as best as can. To a given value of "God" and "world".

ParagonComplex:Already been evidence of pre-Big Bang radiation that looks an awful lot like another universe collided with this one possibly creating the Big Bang itself. Also theories that this is how other universes are created. That outside our universe if we were able to go to such a place exists other 'bubbles' where the other universes exist. When the bubbles collide you get things such as The big Bang. Makes sense to me.

Well then let's hope there's no female Asian gods controlling some of those other universes otherwise we're screwed.

From what I understand about the whole multiverse theory (next to none), different multiverses would have completely different laws of physics. E would not = MC2. Gravity might not exist, or it would have completely different values.

A multiverse is an area which is made of of multiple universes. (like stars in a galaxy, except WAY bigger)A parallel universe is one of a probabilistic co-existing series of universes in tune with our own (like reflections in a mirror)

You COULD have a multiverse made up of universes,each universe having an infinite series of of itself.

The subby is joking about a parallel universe.The article is discussing a multiverse.

miss diminutive:sno man: miss diminutive: sno man: I have a goatee, does that make this the evil universe?

No, your evil universe counterpart would have a double goatee.

/mine would have quadruple tinfoil pigtails

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as for the pigtails...My google foo is weak today, but 'quadruple pigtails' with safe search off had some interesting, although completely unrelated and so we are all clear NSFW, pictures...

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You must be using the alternate universe google.

lolIndeed.

/been meaning to ask, seems as handy a place as any, does your universe include parts of Mel Nooobody's old stomping ground? Otherwise I think I saw your evil twin incognito mostly not having lunch with a couple of girlfriend/co-worker types one day a few months ago... (eip at this end)

By the ravenous teeth that have smittenThrough the kisses that blossom and bud,By the lips intertwisted and bittenTill the foam has a savour of blood,By the pulse as it rises and falters,By the hands as they slacken and strain,I adjure thee, respond from thine altars,Our Lady of Pain.

Hey, even Lot had to start out with, "Wow, sleeping with my daughters was not a good idea at all. I'd better write that one down..."

The notion of god has always been a sort of placeholder for what we haven't known or felt that we couldn't know. Well, that and a personification of our neuroses. Even the Christians have nothing on the crazy the Romans dreamt up, whooooo!

MusicMakeMyHeadPound:nmemkha: The Multiverse, eh? Sounds like a convenient dumping ground for the unexplainable (replacing God).

Hey, even Lot had to start out with, "Wow, sleeping with my daughters was not a good idea at all. I'd better write that one down..."

The notion of god has always been a sort of placeholder for what we haven't known or felt that we couldn't know. Well, that and a personification of our neuroses. Even the Christians have nothing on the crazy the Romans dreamt up, whooooo!

Well its a chicken and egg problem. The case of man creating God is strong (we are imaginative little chimps), but it is also a concept the developed independently around the world in nearly very culture. To deny man has a "spiritual component" is to deny history and the reality of today's world (the majority of humanity is still religious).

What I find interesting is the fall of poly-theism and "knowable" God. The God of all the major world religions (Abrahamic and Dramatic) is both a singular unknowable creator God.

nmemkhaWhat I find interesting is the fall of poly-theism and "knowable" God. The God of all the major world religions (Abrahamic and Dramatic) is both a singular unknowable creator God.

Meh, I think it's wholly predictable. Those religions didn't start out that way (remember: Jesus is about 1,940 years overdue on his return and God should know that rabbits don't chew cud). And it's no secret that science rejects claims that are unfalsifiable as being unworthy of examination.

Clergy aren't stupid, they're just stuck between having invested an awful lot of their life and passion on some pretty bold claims versus needing to pay their bills and getting through life with some dignity.

Of course they're going to declare God "unknowable". Suck on that, you eggheads.

The math on multiverses seems to work out, so it's worthy of speculation and investigation. Science takes this with a grain of salt, however, since (as far as my armchair spectatorship is aware) it's not more than a hypothesis.

That being said, I still get goosebumps reading Max Tegmark's paper from 2000 concerning multiverses and the probably of parallel universes within that.

/SPACE ENDS HERE - MIND THE GAP//also a bookend to an excellent album by the band Leiahdorus

csb\I used to be a "shift manager" at a 7-11 (11pm-7am). I guess I was the shift manager, because I was the only one there. I regret that if I were smarter/more observant I could have used that title to have some business cards printed, added it to my resume, gotten a raise and generally puffed up the whole experience. Well, heck I guess I could still do that.I had to quit because it was supposed to be part time, but within two weeks I was getting my full 40 hours and the girlfriend deprivation as well as sleep adjustment really messed with my social life. Thankfully I didn't get robbed or have to deal with tweakers.

MusicMakeMyHeadPound:nmemkhaWhat I find interesting is the fall of poly-theism and "knowable" God. The God of all the major world religions (Abrahamic and Dramatic) is both a singular unknowable creator God.

Meh, I think it's wholly predictable. Those religions didn't start out that way (remember: Jesus is about 1,940 years overdue on his return and God should know that rabbits don't chew cud). And it's no secret that science rejects claims that are unfalsifiable as being unworthy of examination.

Clergy aren't stupid, they're just stuck between having invested an awful lot of their life and passion on some pretty bold claims versus needing to pay their bills and getting through life with some dignity.

Of course they're going to declare God "unknowable". Suck on that, you eggheads.

The math on multiverses seems to work out, so it's worthy of speculation and investigation. Science takes this with a grain of salt, however, since (as far as my armchair spectatorship is aware) it's not more than a hypothesis.

That being said, I still get goosebumps reading Max Tegmark's paper from 2000 concerning multiverses and the probably of parallel universes within that.

/SPACE ENDS HERE - MIND THE GAP//also a bookend to an excellent album by the band Leiahdorus

And I find little excitement in the prospect. Its doesn't matter since it we are fundamentally stuck in our own doomed universe.

Of course not. A "black hole" is just a star dense enough that photons fall back to it instead of escaping. It's not the magical "it can do anything" gimmick that sci-fi makes it out to be.

since when did common sense dictate physics?

On topic, if there are an infinite number of multiverses where "anything and everything" is happening then in one of them, someone makes a machine to destroy all of them. As this has not happened then not "anything and everything" is happening, it is limited.

Seriously love this stuff but I have a hard time wrapping my head around any of it.

What if the brain only has finite storage though, worse yet what if when it reaches capacity it deletes the oldest bit! You could be walking down the street and suddenly, upon hearing "Mozart was both in 1756" you are unable to walk!

Some multiverses are more likely than others. The so-called Type 1 multiverse is very likely. That is just that space keeps on going on beyond the 13.7 billion light years* represented by the farthest any signal could have come since the end of inflation (or since the Big Bang if you don't accept inflation). "Universe" in this usage is more like Hubble volume.

*Technically that is larger now because space has expanded as that light traveled to us.

In many versions of inflation suggest that this multiverse is really huge possibly so huge that if you go far enough that you will find another "Earth" where I am about to post on fark.com. (Remember there are only so many ways you can put together a universe. If the universe/type-1 multiverse goes is large enough, it will repeat. Of course "large enough" farking huge.)

Another type of multiverse is the volumes where inflation ends. If inflation is correct (and that can be tested) then the implication is that countless such "universes." Many suggest that these island universes in the sea of inflation could have different physical constants though there is no real evidence one way or the other for that.

ski9600:csb\I used to be a "shift manager" at a 7-11 (11pm-7am). I guess I was the shift manager, because I was the only one there. I regret that if I were smarter/more observant I could have used that title to have some business cards printed, added it to my resume, gotten a raise and generally puffed up the whole experience. Well, heck I guess I could still do that.I had to quit because it was supposed to be part time, but within two weeks I was getting my full 40 hours and the girlfriend deprivation as well as sleep adjustment really messed with my social life. Thankfully I didn't get robbed or have to deal with tweakers.

I had the same job for a year or two, but it was at Open Pantry, a local C-store chain that used to exist once upon a time. Getting robbed wasn't so bad; you never feel more alive than you do when there's a gun pointed at you.