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Plasmablasts

Posted 30 March 2017 - 05:59 AM

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If you're running Acolytes with plasma, bolters would probably be my choice to equip any "spares", on the basis of them all being rapid fire. Hot shots lasguns would be attractive with plasma guns for killing power armour, but then you'd probably be better off employing MT Scions.

If you're anticipating your Acolytes getting into assault, cheap and cheerful LP/CCW is worth considering as you can afford extra bodies (7 LP/CCW Acolytes for the price of 4 with stormbolters, if wearing flak armour) who come with extra attacks each. On the other hand, if you can't take extra bodies because your transport's already full, then the stormbolter may be better.

Stormbolters are also worth considering if they'll be sitting at the back with Jokaeros, for the higher rate of fire at 12-24".

Inquisitor Fox

Posted 30 March 2017 - 06:22 AM

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There's something to be said for Acolytes with carapace and bolters (getting a save against enemy small arms ... that 4+ over a not at all is huge) in Chimeras with 2 heavy bolters, stormbolters, and psybolt ammo has a lot going for it

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 07:17 AM

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I usually use bolter acolytes for bullet sponges and save carapace for plasma guys. Carapace isn't that expensive anymore but I'd rather just buy more bodies regardless, since that also increases firepower. Also I'm crazy and like 10 man squads, even though I don't think that's necessarily the most efficient/effective way to do it.

micahwc

Posted 30 March 2017 - 04:21 PM

Would you guys ever run power armor on acolytes? Use them as discount sister's of battle with plasma?

As far as transporting them, Sororitas rhino for 40 or Chimera with psybolts for 60. I think I know the answer is chimeras, since they are basically better in every way except cost and the invulnerable save the rhinos get.

Edited by micahwc, 30 March 2017 - 04:25 PM.

The Codex Astartes no doubt has guidance that covers that kind of situation - long, detailed advice that would essentially boil down to "shoot the choppy ones, chop the shooty ones".

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 11:05 AM

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Power armour is much cheaper with the new book which is good, so it's viable now. You could take a few in PA to help tank a bit, but if you wanted to go full PA in larger squads I'd look at alternatives

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micahwc

Posted 31 March 2017 - 02:58 PM

I'm looking to build an army around the Inquisitorial Representative and Henchmen Warband formations to represent an army of Inquisitorial Storm Troopers.

My basic block of troops is the Inquisitorial Representative with 3 squads of plasma acolytes and a cheap inquisitor and three chimera transports. This block of troops costs between 300 and 400 points depending on what I equip on everything. Ideally I'd like at least two of these formations.

A blob variant of this is just 29 acolytes with no armor and bolters plus one inquisitor. This is pretty cheap for 30 models to hang in the back around an objective.

My warband formation will basically be 3 plasma acolytes, an inquisitor (perhaps a malleus with incinerator), and then a combination of Jokaero, Crusaders, and Death Cult Assassins. This formation will be joined by a Valkyrie, so I can grav chute insert this squad near a priority target and then shoot it with 3 plasma, an incinerator, and 3 multi meltas. The Death Cult Assassins are there to make assaulting the squad risky, and crusaders are for extra invulnerable saves. This formation, depending on how I equip it, costs around 400 points. When I run these I will pay the 2 point premium for mystic upgrades on my acolyte squads in other formations, so this one can deep strike reliably.

So, for a 1000 point game I'd probably take two of the first formations, and something as a leader to round out points. A 1200 point game would be 2 of the first and 1 of the third. Etc.

The Codex Astartes no doubt has guidance that covers that kind of situation - long, detailed advice that would essentially boil down to "shoot the choppy ones, chop the shooty ones".

micahwc

Posted 03 April 2017 - 05:57 PM

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I need to stay off Amazon while I'm at work. An Amazon seller is selling the 5 man Cadian push fit sets for $3.99 with $4 shipping. He had 9 available. I showed restraint and only ordered 8 of them. $36 for 40 cadians with lasguns.

The Codex Astartes no doubt has guidance that covers that kind of situation - long, detailed advice that would essentially boil down to "shoot the choppy ones, chop the shooty ones".

micahwc

Posted 03 April 2017 - 08:37 PM

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The reason I only went with 8 instead of 9, is that 9 put it over $40, which is more likely to attract attention from my finance department. I think I'm going to run them as flak armor acolytes with bolters and plasma. 4 groups of 10 with 3 plasma each. If I run them without a transport it gives me four units to hold back field objectives. They die easy, but they also have a lot of plasma shots to put out.

5 points for a flak acolyte with a bolter seems to be a decent price.

Edited by micahwc, 03 April 2017 - 08:50 PM.

The Codex Astartes no doubt has guidance that covers that kind of situation - long, detailed advice that would essentially boil down to "shoot the choppy ones, chop the shooty ones".

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Posted 18 April 2017 - 05:27 PM

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So those guardsmen still haven't shown up. Amazon hasn't charged me for them, they sent me an email saying the seller never updated shipping information to them, and therefore they would not charge me until they heard from the seller. The seller has a lot of negative feedback saying their shipments were either very late, or didn't ever show up. Kind of unfortunate, but at least I'm not out any money.

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The Codex Astartes no doubt has guidance that covers that kind of situation - long, detailed advice that would essentially boil down to "shoot the choppy ones, chop the shooty ones".

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 07:42 PM

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I would look it as a 'blessing in disguise' because your finance department will eventually find out. Secondly, I am not sure you thought things through by outright saying you're a thief. I would probably not post in this topic or any forum for awhile and just hope/ be thankful mods don't remove you.

WarriorFish

Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:00 AM

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I'm not sure how you can draw that conclusion. All I'm seeing is a purchase that never went through - not despatched, nor paid for. That seems normal enough for a transaction that is likely never to complete, as is sometimes the case online.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 01:58 PM

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I'm not sure how you can draw that conclusion. All I'm seeing is a purchase that never went through - not despatched, nor paid for. That seems normal enough for a transaction that is likely never to complete, as is sometimes the case online.

I've had quite a few transactions that fell apart on the sellers end online. It happens.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 06:24 PM

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I suspect Dogfender became worried about the legality of your purchase because of your comment about keeping it below $40 to avoid the attention of your finance department, which makes it sound like you were embezzling petty cash from your company! I assume we're missing context here...