Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.

obamacare is just a way to force you to buy insurance and fines you through the tax system if don't. Much of the money stolen from the people will be used for political slush funds and support for their socialist agenda. obamacare provides zero health care and no services, it is just money distribution program. I will not pay into any insurance system that kills babies.

Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.

Concern for the poor and downtrodden IS a Christian mandate. The current system is broken and the proposed fix is equally broken.....The greed-driven free market health system destroyed itself and power-driven government plan will implode just as catastrophically.

Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.

Jesus would NOT want birth control or abortions which are part and parcel of obamacare. Jesus would also not want death panels or assisted suicide which are part of obamacare. Jesus would not want the Doctors having to say no to patients just because the government thought them too old or not worth saving. Jesus would not want sharia law either (which has entitlements in Obamacare). There ya go.

Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.

2 Thessalonians 3:10-12 (KJV)10[For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.] 11[For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.] 12[Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.]

Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.

2 Thessalonians 3:10-12 (KJV)10[For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.] 11[For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.] 12[Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.]

Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.

you are right OP! these so called christians are nothing more than 2012 babylonians

Exalted is He from what they utter. Exalted is He from what they imagine. Exalted is He that exists without a place. Exalted is He that was there forever without a time or a beginning. Exalted is He that will be there forever without a time or an end. Exalted is He that will forever be praised. That is your God.

Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.

Jesus instructed to sell all posessions and give all to the poor. Yet you christians built 50 million dollar churches and park your shiny SUVs out front, then complain about the poor and less fortunate. Bunch of hypocrits.

Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.

A lot of repubs (christians) rail against those in need with a "not our problem, fuck em" attitude. This is extremely unChrist like. Jesus would be giving free healthcare to all regardless of the cost, he would feed and clothe the needy regardless of cost, he would certainly tax the wealthy to the extreme. Discuss.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3607425

You are stupid enough to buy into leftist LIES.

We Republicans care MORE about the poor than democrats do.

We help them DIRECTLY by contributing money to charities that help the disadvantaged, or we volunteer time.

Democrats do neither. They just whine that "the rich" don't pay for EVERYTHING for all those who are not rich.

Jesus would want ALL people who have money to spare, to donate to those who CANNOT help themselves, but he would have little pity on those lazy creeps who drop out of high school, then expect the government to send them a check every month.

Maybe when you get your FIRST JOB , and actually EARN money, you'll understand.

Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.

Jesus instructed to sell all posessions and give all to the poor. Yet you christians built 50 million dollar churches and park your shiny SUVs out front, then complain about the poor and less fortunate. Bunch of hypocrits.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26600209

I'll bet you a $ 1000 that atheists give LESS to charity than Christians do.

Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.

because nothing suggests that jesus would say that it is proper to steal from some, take a big cut for the middlemen and pass out the rest by way of an uninterested bureaucracy.

If you pay any attention, there is nothing of FORCE by a third earthly party in his teachings, in the main it's all about self control and volunteering to do good. No bureaucracy is implied or expressly recommended in any of his teachings

Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.

A lot of repubs (christians) rail against those in need with a "not our problem, fuck em" attitude. This is extremely unChrist like. Jesus would be giving free healthcare to all regardless of the cost, he would feed and clothe the needy regardless of cost, he would certainly tax the wealthy to the extreme. Discuss.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3607425

You are stupid enough to buy into leftist LIES.

We Republicans care MORE about the poor than democrats do.

We help them DIRECTLY by contributing money to charities that help the disadvantaged, or we volunteer time.

Democrats do neither. They just whine that "the rich" don't pay for EVERYTHING for all those who are not rich.

Jesus would want ALL people who have money to spare, to donate to those who CANNOT help themselves, but he would have little pity on those lazy creeps who drop out of high school, then expect the government to send them a check every month.

Maybe when you get your FIRST JOB , and actually EARN money, you'll understand.

Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.

Jesus instructed to sell all posessions and give all to the poor. Yet you christians built 50 million dollar churches and park your shiny SUVs out front, then complain about the poor and less fortunate. Bunch of hypocrits.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26600209

I'll bet you a $ 1000 that atheists give LESS to charity than Christians do.

I never hear of any "atheist charities" do you ?

Famous atheists:

Mai Tse TungJoseph StalinVladimir LeninKim Jong IlBill Maher

need I say more ?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222180

leftists are 'charitable' with the lives of others they want to get rid of. They have no problems giving other peoples lives and labor away, especially if they reap most of the benefits

Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.

IF the healthcare were FREE from the churches like it used to be funded by charity then it would be Biblical, but as it is it is THEFT where the Gov takes from some to give to others, in support of Satan's open border globalism and Feminist Movement.

Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.

A lot of repubs (christians) rail against those in need with a "not our problem, fuck em" attitude. This is extremely unChrist like. Jesus would be giving free healthcare to all regardless of the cost, he would feed and clothe the needy regardless of cost, he would certainly tax the wealthy to the extreme. Discuss.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3607425

Jesus would never vote for Obamacare. It's too fucked up for him. He might vote for socialized, single payer healthcare, but not this abortion.

Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.

Here it is read it and weep!

And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy Pharmaceuticals were all nations deceived

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26142676

there was no word for pharmaceuticals during the time of Jesus.... not for about another two millenia...

Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.

A lot of repubs (christians) rail against those in need with a "not our problem, fuck em" attitude. This is extremely unChrist like. Jesus would be giving free healthcare to all regardless of the cost, he would feed and clothe the needy regardless of cost, he would certainly tax the wealthy to the extreme. Discuss.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3607425

He doesn't want universal (fake) healthcare, He wants all of us to come to repentance, and make Him Lord of our lives. Sickness and disease are a direct result of sin, and the result of sin: The soul that sins will die. We do not need healthcare, we need redemption for eternity. A few years more here are nothing compared to eternity with Christ.

Get it right

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23559812

Man so when small children die of cancer it's because they were too sinful. My God I can't believe you so called Christians.

Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.

Where does Universal Healthcare come from? Do we do a rain dance and get Universal Healthcare raining down from above?

No. Universal Healthcare comes from forcing people to pay for something they may not want - namely "insurance" to cover drugs and procedures from the FDA-Medical-Pharmaceutical complex. In other words, everyone must buy the insurance or gun toting thugs will come to their house to kidnap them. It goes without saying that if you try to defend yourself from said thugs, you will be shot dead.

So Universal Healthcare is really theft, by threat of deadly force, where the proceeds are given to a corrupt, crony industry.

Woudn't it be better to have abundant, cheap, high-quality healthcare with a wide selection of medical philosophies and providers? In other words, a free market without the FDA, ERISA, HIPA, Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare, etc.?

Jesus would want truth and non-agression, and Obamacare is based on lies and violence.

Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.

A lot of repubs (christians) rail against those in need with a "not our problem, fuck em" attitude. This is extremely unChrist like. Jesus would be giving free healthcare to all regardless of the cost, he would feed and clothe the needy regardless of cost, he would certainly tax the wealthy to the extreme. Discuss.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3607425

He doesn't want universal (fake) healthcare, He wants all of us to come to repentance, and make Him Lord of our lives. Sickness and disease are a direct result of sin, and the result of sin: The soul that sins will die. We do not need healthcare, we need redemption for eternity. A few years more here are nothing compared to eternity with Christ.

Get it right

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23559812

Man so when small children die of cancer it's because they were too sinful. My God I can't believe you so called Christians.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27017868

I don't understand your reaction to the concept. Anyone who believes in an omnipotent deity believes that "when small children die of cancer it's because they were too _______". Fill in the blank for whatever pisses off said deity. Because of course said deity not only inflicted the cancer on the child but has complete control over just how much he/she suffers and exactly when he/she dies. Said deity also chooses to ignore the child's prayers.

Hindus believe the same shit, they just think the kids did something in a past life to piss of their gods

Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.

Where does Universal Healthcare come from? Do we do a rain dance and get Universal Healthcare raining down from above?

No. Universal Healthcare comes from forcing people to pay for something they may not want - namely "insurance" to cover drugs and procedures from the FDA-Medical-Pharmaceutical complex. In other words, everyone must buy the insurance or gun toting thugs will come to their house to kidnap them. It goes without saying that if you try to defend yourself from said thugs, you will be shot dead.

So Universal Healthcare is really theft, by threat of deadly force, where the proceeds are given to a corrupt, crony industry.

Woudn't it be better to have abundant, cheap, high-quality healthcare with a wide selection of medical philosophies and providers? In other words, a free market without the FDA, ERISA, HIPA, Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare, etc.?

Jesus would want truth and non-agression, and Obamacare is based on lies and violence.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21672181

Taxation is forcing people to pay for something they may not want, period. No matter what it is.

According to you tards, Jesus was an anarchist and believe in no governance at all, and that is simply not the case, as he commanded you to abide by the laws of the land and pay your taxes.

The fact of the matter is, Jesus would be against military spending, and for universal healthcare. I think Jesus was a fucking moron, luckily so are his followers or else we would live in just another leftist shithole.

Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.

Where does Universal Healthcare come from? Do we do a rain dance and get Universal Healthcare raining down from above?

No. Universal Healthcare comes from forcing people to pay for something they may not want - namely "insurance" to cover drugs and procedures from the FDA-Medical-Pharmaceutical complex. In other words, everyone must buy the insurance or gun toting thugs will come to their house to kidnap them. It goes without saying that if you try to defend yourself from said thugs, you will be shot dead.

So Universal Healthcare is really theft, by threat of deadly force, where the proceeds are given to a corrupt, crony industry.

Woudn't it be better to have abundant, cheap, high-quality healthcare with a wide selection of medical philosophies and providers? In other words, a free market without the FDA, ERISA, HIPA, Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare, etc.?

Jesus would want truth and non-agression, and Obamacare is based on lies and violence.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21672181

Taxation is forcing people to pay for something they may not want, period. No matter what it is.

According to you tards, Jesus was an anarchist and believe in no governance at all, and that is simply not the case, as he commanded you to abide by the laws of the land and pay your taxes.

The fact of the matter is, Jesus would be against military spending, and for universal healthcare. I think Jesus was a fucking moron, luckily so are his followers or else we would live in just another leftist shithole.

Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.

A lot of repubs (christians) rail against those in need with a "not our problem, fuck em" attitude. This is extremely unChrist like. Jesus would be giving free healthcare to all regardless of the cost, he would feed and clothe the needy regardless of cost, he would certainly tax the wealthy to the extreme. Discuss.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3607425

You need to be aware of several facts.

1.) Obama has stated that he and his family, and his key administrators will NOT be using Obamacare. They will have private care. They are too good to use it! If it's not good enough for them, why not? Obviously he knows something we don't. This leads us to 2.

2.) Obamacare will decline with age. In other words, the older you get, the less care you will be entitled to. This leads ut to 3.

3)Senior citizens who need care most will receive the least care, and sometimes no care at all. Do you think they will pay for senior citizens to try different tests/surgeries to potentially save them from life threatening conditions? NO! That will be a waste of their money. They will dictate what doctors you can see, and what those doctors can do. Once you hit your limit, they will LET YOU DIE!

4.) There is a part of the ObamaCare bill that staes that by March 23, 2013, we will all be required to have an RFID chip inserted in us to create a medical registry. They will be able to scan you like cattle, invade your privacy, and even "turn your chip off" if you are disobedient to the illuminati, which will kill you. As a Christian, I believe this is the mark of the beast. Even if you're not a Christian, you should have a problem with being poked, prodded, and spied on.