timujin:How is it all these people with past lives were Joan of Arc or some other famous person? It's never, "Um, yeah, I was a dirt farmer in 1352 and died at age 37 from gout."

It's only the attention whores who were famous historical figures. I would actually be embarrased or dissapointed if I found out I was famous in a past life. That being said, I totally hope I slept with Ben Franklin in a past life.

Ambivalence:timujin: How is it all these people with past lives were Joan of Arc or some other famous person? It's never, "Um, yeah, I was a dirt farmer in 1352 and died at age 37 from gout."

It's only the attention whores who were famous historical figures. I would actually be embarrased or dissapointed if I found out I was famous in a past life. That being said, I totally hope I slept with Ben Franklin in a past life.

FunkOut:FabulousFreep: timujin: How is it all these people with past lives were Joan of Arc or some other famous person? It's never, "Um, yeah, I was a dirt farmer in 1352 and died at age 37 from gout."

Because they are delusional attention seeking nut cases in need of therapy and possibly institutionalization regardless if they claim to be Joan or a dirt farmer.

Just because you can't remember being a Chinese peasant like everyone else on the planet.

Pretty much what I came to say. I'm always amused that people who believe in "past lives" almost always claim to have been someone of fame or nobility. You never hear "yeah, I was an English fishwife named Hortense in the 15th century".

Crass and Jaded Mother Farker:Ambivalence: timujin: How is it all these people with past lives were Joan of Arc or some other famous person? It's never, "Um, yeah, I was a dirt farmer in 1352 and died at age 37 from gout."

It's only the attention whores who were famous historical figures. I would actually be embarrased or dissapointed if I found out I was famous in a past life. That being said, I totally hope I slept with Ben Franklin in a past life.

I was a serf named Harold in 13th century Cheshire. I married possibly the ugliest woman in existence because her father had three dairy cows and promised to help build a new cottage for us and the bugger only bought half the bloody wood we needed. We were happily married for three weeks then the weather cleared up and I saw her in full daylight for the first time. The marriage lasted until I died at forty-three in a pitchfork-related accident. I had three extra-marital affairs, one with a fat Welsh prostitute and the others with one of the cows.

I was waiting in the express lane with my twelve items or lessAt the checkout counter at the local grocery storeI was only passin' byBut a paper caught my eyeAnd I learned a few things I never knew beforeIt said your pet may be an extraterrestrialIt said the ghost of Elvis is living in my denYou can learn to cope with stressYou can beat the IRSAnd the incredible frog boy is on the loose againOh, Midnight StarIt's in the weekly Midnight StarAliens from outer space are sleeping in my carMidnight Star, I wanna know, I wanna knowEat jelly doughnuts, and lose twenty pounds a dayHear the story of the man born without a headAnd top psychics all agreeThat the telephone companyWill have a brand new service that lets you talk to the deadOh, Midnight StarYou can believe it if you read it in the weekly Midnight StarThey're keeping Hitler's brain alive inside a jarMidnight Star, I wanna know, I wanna knowTell me, tell me, tell me how to make my bust-line growMidnight Star, I wanna knowOh, Midnight StarWell, don't you know that I read it, I read it in the weekly Midnight StarThe UFOs have landed, and we'll tell you where they areMidnight Star, I wanna know, I wanna knowMidnight StarWell, you can read all about in in the weekly Midnight StarYou can use your ESP to learn to play guitarI wanna know, I wanna know

buckler:FunkOut: FabulousFreep: timujin: How is it all these people with past lives were Joan of Arc or some other famous person? It's never, "Um, yeah, I was a dirt farmer in 1352 and died at age 37 from gout."

Because they are delusional attention seeking nut cases in need of therapy and possibly institutionalization regardless if they claim to be Joan or a dirt farmer.

Just because you can't remember being a Chinese peasant like everyone else on the planet.

Pretty much what I came to say. I'm always amused that people who believe in "past lives" almost always claim to have been someone of fame or nobility. You never hear "yeah, I was an English fishwife named Hortense in the 15th century".

Rimmer: Because, believe it or not, Lister, he told me that, in a past incarnation, I was Alexander the Great's chief eunuch.

Lister: Do you know something? I believe you.

Rimmer: He didn't say that I was Alexander himself, which is obviously what I wanted to hear. But it explained everything: I'd lived a previous life alongside one of the greatest generals in history. No wonder the military's in my blood.

Lister: No wonder you're such a good singer.

Rimmer: Well, maybe it's rot, I don't know. But it's funny -- to this day, I can't look at a pair of nutcrackers without wincing. And why is it, whenever I'm with a large group of women, I have this overwhelming urge to bathe them in warm olive oil?

Lister: I have that urge, Rimmer. It's got nothing to do with past lives.

AgentPothead:iheartscotch: Wellll; Joan De Arc did claim that she heard voices in her head. She said St. Michael the Archangel; not aliens. Me thinks that somebody wants some attention.

Woah woah woah, delusional people can hear voices that they attribute to somebody other than themselves?

At least Joan De Arc actually convinced a few people that the voices were real. She was burned at the stake for witchery. She was also canonized a saint in the 1920's by Benedict XV. I doubt this lady will follow in Joan's footsteps.

Kit Fister:AgentPothead: Woah woah woah, delusional people can hear voices that they attribute to somebody other than themselves?

I guess that depends: if the voices were correct, does it matter?

Sure! Win a few quick victories and suddenly, everybody believes in the voices. The conjecture is; Charles the VII of France sold her out, because she was too popular with the common people. She is, however, one of the few people convicted of witchery to have the conviction reversed; as much good as it did her.

iheartscotch:Kit Fister: AgentPothead: Woah woah woah, delusional people can hear voices that they attribute to somebody other than themselves?

I guess that depends: if the voices were correct, does it matter?

Sure! Win a few quick victories and suddenly, everybody believes in the voices. The conjecture is; Charles the VII of France sold her out, because she was too popular with the common people. She is, however, one of the few people convicted of witchery to have the conviction reversed; as much good as it did her.

She "believed" in the voices to stop the gang rapes. They were afraid to touch her until she recanted, then they gang raped her 24/7.

buckler:Pretty much what I came to say. I'm always amused that people who believe in "past lives" almost always claim to have been someone of fame or nobility. You never hear "yeah, I was an English fishwife named Hortense in the 15th century".

My mother took me to a hypnotist for past life regression when I was a teenager, what did I learn? I was a greek mercenary who was murdered in an ambush, I was a Roman footsoldier in Britain who was killed by Picts, I was a young, Chinese wife, who's villiage was overrun by Monguls and I became a slave and later run down by a horseman and killed. All of them short, miserable lives that ended violently and with great suffering.

My takeaway? Modern life is farking awesome! Though I am half expecting to be raped/murdered at any moment just because that seems to be the trend for me (if said memories actually happened)

FullMetalPanda:iheartscotch: Kit Fister: AgentPothead: Woah woah woah, delusional people can hear voices that they attribute to somebody other than themselves?

I guess that depends: if the voices were correct, does it matter?

Sure! Win a few quick victories and suddenly, everybody believes in the voices. The conjecture is; Charles the VII of France sold her out, because she was too popular with the common people. She is, however, one of the few people convicted of witchery to have the conviction reversed; as much good as it did her.

She "believed" in the voices to stop the gang rapes. They were afraid to touch her until she recanted, then they gang raped her 24/7.

Then she heard the voices again and they killed her.

The English? I hadn't heard that; but, I wouldn't be surprised if it was true. They would do some pretty horrific things to make witches confess. She was about 19 when they burned her at the stake.

I doubt the French would have; she was, actually, a pretty damn effective commander. Charles the VII actually had his biblical scholars and his priests check into Joan's background; to make sure she wasn't just a con-artist. She must have convinced them of her virtue; because, they recommended that Charles the VII should support Joan and listen to her.