I am a Vedic astrologer.I punched in the dates received for the Tisha B'Av days in the 80's with co-ordinates somewhere in Georgia as an average. They all have Scorpio Moon, except the 84 one where only the first hour or so is Scorpio, Jyestha, the rest is Mula (Sagittarius), and the 88 one where only the last hour is Vishakha Scorpio. But that is unlikely as AIDS was well spread already then, plus Vishakha Scorpio would be very spiritual and a loser on worldly counts, with possibly dead siblings - very unlikely for a False Prophet.Anyway, from what I read it is the 83. If it were the 80 or the 81, you would not have said mid-to late twenties, as he would have been thirty already at the starting of this thread.

Otherwise I thoroughly enjoy this thread, there is much good information in it and jolting people out of commonly accepted beliefs with great patience.

I am catching up, I read all answered questions but it takes me days to read through over 200 pages. Still, it is interesting that I tried to post in similar places for years and somehow I always arrived late. The OP had already disappeared. Hope I can ask some questions here. Good luck till then!

We actually help more than hurt - for example, a massive earthquake was to hit LA in the 1980s, but that didn't fit into the plan. We had Buddhist monks and the Hopi Native Americans to intervene and make it much less severe.

the end of point #9: "through FORCING A REDUCTION IN CONSUMPTION and investing in education we can create a better culture."

Upon writing this in 2007 I decided to devote a great deal of time ensuring Americans were FORCED to cut back on excess consumption. It may seem like desperate times; because US will be weened off the addiction of hyperconsumerism.

9." Elitist attitudes, what I mean by that is how many of us feel compelled to spend money on only the best products.

It’s a known fact that, especially in America, we believe that the most expensive item must be better than the cheaper one.

The whole "bigger-is-better" attitude must come to an end. The keeping up with the Joneses attitude has been ingrained into American society for generations, and will be a hard habit to break, but I think through forcing a reduction in consumption and investing in education we can create a better culture."

I agree, except for one thing. Organic food. Still more expensive by a lot. Sometimes people spend an excess of money of things just to be safer.

Organic food, wool, cotton or silk instead of polyester, nylon.....

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But how do we know the organic food is better or more nutritious then the regular foods in the markets unless we know who has grown it or we have grown it ourselves? Sometimes I believe the difference in the supermarket organic is the expense of it all. And the same goes for organic materials. Really, I can't tell the difference. I usually don't buy the cheapest but I don't buy the most expensive products either.

Why would you pray against something that's God's will and has been predetermined by God?

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Lets find out Abe. Its a wonderful gesture that could yield surprising results.

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I game. Would you like to come up with one?

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The one I already use for Chris, I ask God to send the Holy Ghost upon him to give him a glimpse of true power, mercy and peace. Chris has a better chance than the Benny Hinns of the world. He is upfront about his being a false prophet which I find hilarious. He is honest about his BS and I can respect that.

Here goes;

I pray that God send the Holy Spirit upon Chris and show him true power, mercy, and peace. And in doing so, may he be cut-off from any and all dark spiritual entities. Let the thought of him slip from the minds of those who would use him for evil purposes. Let the very mention of him depart from the lips of evil. Amen.

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There will be an end to this system but you are not predetermined or predestined. No human is. It is all about choice and free will. You have a choice just like all of us. Just because someone says you are chosen for something doesn't mean you have to accept it. You can always say no. If you choose to stay in your role then always remember it was your choice. Not the Creator's. He wants eternal life for you but it is up to you which way to go. Just because you walk away doesn't mean God's purpose won't be fulfilled. It will. You just don't have to be on the enemies side.

We actually help more than hurt - for example, a massive earthquake was to hit LA in the 1980s, but that didn't fit into the plan. We had Buddhist monks and the Hopi Native Americans to intervene and make it much less severe.

We actually help more than hurt - for example, a massive earthquake was to hit LA in the 1980s, but that didn't fit into the plan. We had Buddhist monks and the Hopi Native Americans to intervene and make it much less severe.

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FAIL!

I'm a Buddhist and you're full of shit.

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really I have heard differently from some very astute Buddhists

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Please elaborate.

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Ive read interviews with this creepy old lady named Gwen Shaw who is the head of a group called the end of times hand maidens, I believe. It's connected to Binny Hinn. She talked about how Tibetan Monks would gather with her and her group to bless the Mississippi river. These didn't sound like normal blessings to me. Gwen shaw reminds me of the old lady that walks into a diner in the movie Legion I think it's called.

I couldn’t figure out whether the mushroom is the alien or the mushroom is some kind of technological artifact allowing me to hear the alien when the alien is actually light-years away, using some kind of Bell nonlocality principle to communicate. The mushroom states its own position very clearly. It says, ‘I require the nervous system of a mammal. Do you have one handy?’- Terence McKena

And I don't know about God actually speaking to people these days but he does direct them in unique ways according to the individual I would believe. But it is up to that individual to take the direction or not. It is good for us, especially if we are praying for direction, to keep our eyes and ears open at all times. It is also good to ask God for knowledge, wisdom and especially for discernment.

And I don't know about God actually speaking to people these days but he does direct them in unique ways according to the individual I would believe. But it is up to that individual to take the direction or not. It is good for us, especially if we are praying for direction, to keep our eyes and ears open at all times. It is also good to ask God for knowledge, wisdom and especially for discernment.

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Forgot these. And to set things straight, I am just trying to answer this poster's question as to why the Bible says we needed a savior. Not trying to be preachy or anything.

1 Corinthians 15:21 For since death came through a man(Adam), the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man(Jesus Christ).

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

There is of course more answers but this is basic and I will stop here unless you have more questions. I know DC may have different answers, so we will have to see what he says. :0)

I pray that God send the Holy Spirit upon Chris and show him true power, mercy, and peace. And in doing so, may he be cut-off from any and all dark spiritual entities. Let the thought of him slip from the minds of those who would use him for evil purposes. Let the very mention of him depart from the lips of evil. Amen. /Quote.

That is awesome. and anyone reading - that cares... The INTENT and SINCERITY is whats most important. Dogpile!

Do we really have to accept Jesus Christ in order to get to Heaven? If not, why do people believe that? Does God really speak to people or do people just say that?

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He speaks to people but not with words.

I couldn’t figure out whether the mushroom is the alien or the mushroom is some kind of technological artifact allowing me to hear the alien when the alien is actually light-years away, using some kind of Bell nonlocality principle to communicate. The mushroom states its own position very clearly. It says, ‘I require the nervous system of a mammal. Do you have one handy?’- Terence McKena

Somewhat true, only I commented on the negative vibes first. It's really funny. Ppl expected doom on Monday, and it was bad, but not the tripe puppet-first-class Glenn Beck said "DAY 6: Dow plunges 900-1000 pts. in 20 minutes, markets shut down by 9:50 AM, EU raises interest rates to encourage investors (Monday)"See - ppl like Beck are shoved in your face to raise expectations of disaster. When doomsday doesn't come, you take the mini-disasters as if all were fine. It's that constant pecking of mini-disasters which will bring America to the Globalist side. It's like calling someone and saying "MOTHER OF GOD, YOUR HOUSE JUST BURNED TO THE GROUND!!!" They have a panic attack, and upon arrival find a small piece of wall burned out. The person is relieved but this happens every day. Every day a piece of your wall gets fried. And every day you believe your friend (media) who calls saying "Well it's happened again - your house is 100% toast, expect the worst." You wouldn't believe that bullshit would you? Of course not. So why do we believe the media? That's where the chemtrails come in. =D

How? It just increases my spirit. Not sure I can explain the mechanics behind it.It's a personal power-enhancing ritual.

Great that it helps me along. =D

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Quoting: the darkness comes

How do you benefit from peoples negative energy?

What kind of ritual is this helping you with today?

Do you really want that energy if it comes at the ex

Quoting: YoU~€iT¥ <aka> abe

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So you were in the process of conducting a personal power-enhancing ritual and during this ritual people started commenting on the negative energy they were feeling today which is also a power-enhancer for you. So it would seem to me that your part of this ritual is to spread negativity which you can then feed upon. Is this accurate?

And I don't know about God actually speaking to people these days but he does direct them in unique ways according to the individual I would believe. But it is up to that individual to take the direction or not. It is good for us, especially if we are praying for direction, to keep our eyes and ears open at all times. It is also good to ask God for knowledge, wisdom and especially for discernment.

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God most definitely speaks to people. How depends on your predisposition, some visualize, others hear, others just know. Other people are often used as well.

the end of point #9: "through FORCING A REDUCTION IN CONSUMPTION and investing in education we can create a better culture."

Upon writing this in 2007 I decided to devote a great deal of time ensuring Americans were FORCED to cut back on excess consumption. It may seem like desperate times; because US will be weened off the addiction of hyperconsumerism.

9." Elitist attitudes, what I mean by that is how many of us feel compelled to spend money on only the best products.

It’s a known fact that, especially in America, we believe that the most expensive item must be better than the cheaper one.

The whole "bigger-is-better" attitude must come to an end. The keeping up with the Joneses attitude has been ingrained into American society for generations, and will be a hard habit to break, but I think through forcing a reduction in consumption and investing in education we can create a better culture."

I agree, except for one thing. Organic food. Still more expensive by a lot. Sometimes people spend an excess of money of things just to be safer.

Let's assume Globalist Elites completely left the scene. Other groups would move in to fill the void and trust me they're not as nice. As for 100% elite removal we tried that - the Wild West, and it was a hellhole until elites took it over.

Better to swim in a lake intact, than an enclosed pool; Better to live with an open mind, than let teachers with good intentions tell you what to think and do. The latter are looking for a debt to be paid, but I say everyone is accountable for their own debt.

Time for people to come out of their conditioned and limited experience in the structure watering hole we know as society, like Lazarus from the dead. (Perseverance) Rise from your tombs.

There's some inspiration I was looking for. Hopefully it'll spread and people will be extra cranky on Monday at work.

My friend the Angel climbed up from his station into the mill. I remained alone, and then this appearance was no more; but I found myself sitting on a pleasant bank beside a river by moon-light, hearing a harper who sung to the harp, and his theme was, ‘The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind.’

Something I liked from Blake's Books of Prophecy X. Always good to learn something new, and yet old. I actually thought of being buried in my garden. More useful than under a stone.

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I will not cease from mental fight, Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand, Till we have built Jerusalem, In England's green and pleasant land.

And did those feet in ancient time Walk upon England's mountains green?

And was the holy Lamb of God On England's pleasant pastures seen?

And did the Countenance Divine Shine forth upon our clouded hills?

And was Jerusalem builded here Among these dark Satanic mills?

It is my wish as well, to be buried under the land that I have worked with these weathered hands.

I don't think you people get it. We're on the good side - we use evil methods, but that's the only way things will be accomplished. Our enemies are not external. They are internal - inside everyone. Remember, the first step of jihad is jihad WITHIN - we haven't accomplished that on a grand scale.

Why would you pray against something that's God's will and has been predetermined by God?

...

I game. Would you like to come up with one?

Quoting: YoU~€iT¥ <aka> abe

The one I already use for Chris, I ask God to send the Holy Ghost upon him to give him a glimpse of true power, mercy and peace. Chris has a better chance than the Benny Hinns of the world. He is upfront about his being a false prophet which I find hilarious. He is honest about his BS and I can respect that.

Here goes;

I pray that God send the Holy Spirit upon Chris and show him true power, mercy, and peace. And in doing so, may he be cut-off from any and all dark spiritual entities. Let the thought of him slip from the minds of those who would use him for evil purposes. Let the very mention of him depart from the lips of evil. Amen.

Quoting: Eastern Gate

Quoting: the darkness comes

There will be an end to this system but you are not predetermined or predestined. No human is. It is all about choice and free will. You have a choice just like all of us. Just because someone says you are chosen for something doesn't mean you have to accept it. You can always say no. If you choose to stay in your role then always remember it was your choice. Not the Creator's. He wants eternal life for you but it is up to you which way to go. Just because you walk away doesn't mean God's purpose won't be fulfilled. It will. You just don't have to be on the enemies side.

Ive read interviews with this creepy old lady named Gwen Shaw who is the head of a group called the end of times hand maidens, I believe. It's connected to Binny Hinn. She talked about how Tibetan Monks would gather with her and her group to bless the Mississippi river. These didn't sound like normal blessings to me. Gwen shaw reminds me of the old lady that walks into a diner in the movie Legion I think it's called.

For people saying elite knowledge should be completely shared. Just remember the concept of a decent government - republic - was shared in ancient Greece, yet it took millennia for society to accept the concept. People do NOT need anymore technology right now, they need philosophy to catch up with technology.

You don't have to accept Jesus you have to accept your personal Christ.

Do we really have to accept Jesus Christ in order to get to Heaven? If not, why do people believe that? Does God really speak to people or do people just say that?

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I believe is is said because many held Jesus to be God's Immortal Spirit wrapped in flesh. So obviously if you deny God for who He was when He walked this Earth, He's probably not going to let you into Heaven. Last I checked He's been working on getting it started since the begining of Time.

Tired of all these damn christians, muslims, jews, the church of this and the church of that. I fart in your general direction.

Brian the Lion the Onion of France aka The Anti Christ, LuciferMerlin The White NecromancerPaolinThe Evil One - King SolomonRaHolDon MeTeTron HoPeJETT King Of AtlantisLast of The FallenZeus of Olympus

Jesus said, "Damn the flesh that depends on the soul. Damn the soul that depends on the flesh." -Gospel of Thomas 112

You don't have to accept Jesus you have to accept your personal Christ.

Do we really have to accept Jesus Christ in order to get to Heaven? If not, why do people believe that? Does God really speak to people or do people just say that?

Quoting: Listen13 1497664

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I believe is is said because many held Jesus to be God's Immortal Spirit wrapped in flesh. So obviously if you deny God for who He was when He walked this Earth, He's probably not going to let you into Heaven. Last I checked He's been working on getting it started since the begining of Time.

"Wyly, who maintained a home near Aspen, Colo., was turning onto a highway near the local airport when his Porsche was hit by a sport utility vehicle Sunday, the Colorado State Patrol said in a statement. Wyly died at Aspen Valley Hospital."

Charles Wyly helped his brother run their startup computer software company, University Computing, and later founded and led several other companies including arts and crafts retail chain Michaels Stores Inc., which was sold in 2006. He also was a former member of a White House Advisory Council for Management Improvement.

Recent rulings had gone against them.

A federal judge refused to dismiss the case in March.

Two weeks before Wyly's death, the court ordered the brothers to turn over several documents they had sought to withhold under attorney-client privilege.??

The SEC, in a complaint filed in July 2010 after a six-year investigation, accused the brothers of using “an elaborate sham system of trusts and subsidiary companies”

in the Isle of Man and Cayman Islands over 13 years to hide their ownership of stock in four public companies on whose boards they sat, including Michaels Stores.

In March, the brothers lost a bid to have the lawsuit dismissed. The SEC has been seeking to impose penalties and to force the Wylys to turn over $550 million the agency claims they made from the alleged scheme.

"You can bend it and twist it... You can misuse and abuse it... But even God cannot change the Truth.”Michael Levy

I'm not in the proper frame of mind to comment on that. Bump it later. I am in the frame of mind for spiritual questions. =D

Chris (Darkness) --care to comment?

Texas billionaire Charles Wyly killed in car crash near Aspen, Colo.

"Wyly, who maintained a home near Aspen, Colo., was turning onto a highway near the local airport when his Porsche was hit by a sport utility vehicle Sunday, the Colorado State Patrol said in a statement. Wyly died at Aspen Valley Hospital."

Charles Wyly helped his brother run their startup computer software company, University Computing, and later founded and led several other companies including arts and crafts retail chain Michaels Stores Inc., which was sold in 2006. He also was a former member of a White House Advisory Council for Management Improvement.

Recent rulings had gone against them.

A federal judge refused to dismiss the case in March.

Two weeks before Wyly's death, the court ordered the brothers to turn over several documents they had sought to withhold under attorney-client privilege.??

The SEC, in a complaint filed in July 2010 after a six-year investigation, accused the brothers of using “an elaborate sham system of trusts and subsidiary companies”

in the Isle of Man and Cayman Islands over 13 years to hide their ownership of stock in four public companies on whose boards they sat, including Michaels Stores.

In March, the brothers lost a bid to have the lawsuit dismissed. The SEC has been seeking to impose penalties and to force the Wylys to turn over $550 million the agency claims they made from the alleged scheme.