Which is why short-girl-what's-her-face calls him out for being boring since he's still reeling from that rump-roasting he got handed

7 months ago

Carter Adams

why was he so buttblasted by that?

7 months ago

Jeremiah Perez

He got angry because she used his ego to manipulate him. Basically, his ego got hurt because she pretend that he was someone with talent to get him to do what she wanted.

7 months ago

Nicholas Rodriguez

He thought that he had figured out the play mystery totally, then was told that he was never expected to solve the mystery, only to come up with an ending that would satisfy the audience or something like that. Basically he got the chair kicked out from under him when he thought he might actually have a knack for something at that point.

7 months ago

Austin Butler

I think there's an argument to be had that Misaki is the most otaku-pandering character there is. She literally spends the show pandering to a shut-in, while also being waifubait for the audience even while being in a completely self-aware show.

Hell, /r9k/ even has regular ">tfw no Misaki-chan angel gf to save me from NEETdom" threads. If that isn't the result of successful pandering I cannot tell you what is.

7 months ago

Aaron Rivera

The funny thing is that the entire point of the character is that she isn't your waifu and won't save you from despair. So I would say she doesn't pander to otaku if you actually pay attention to the show

7 months ago

Chase Watson

People straight up miss the entire point of her character. Misaki isn't pandering in the slightest.

7 months ago

Jaxon Gonzalez

Means there are designated areas for men and women, they do not bathe together.

7 months ago

Brandon Ross

Also a big part was that Oreki never even considered the motivations of the writer of the movie. It made him realize that he looks at just what's on the surface, rather than thinking about beyond.

The movie arc in general was just Oreki realizing many of his character flaws.

7 months ago

John Price

She thought mixed spa bath would be romantic. The women have towel wrapped around them when they do that, guys just use hand towel to cover groin. Yes you do pretty much see all the woman's body shape as the towel clings.

7 months ago

Juan Reyes

Misaki just wanted to feel in control and superior to someone. Her hikikomori project was just to make herself feel better that she's not as worthless as Satoru.

Really, the anime downplayed a lot of Misaki's true character compared to the novel and particularly the manga.

7 months ago

Owen Robinson

It didn't, people are just stupid and willfully ignorant.

7 months ago

Benjamin White

Thread should have ended here.

7 months ago

Camden Harris

The movie arc in general was just Oreki realizing many of his character flaws.Which he fixed and that's what helped him fix the Festival mistery.

7 months ago

Thomas Wood

Oreki, you're the most amazing person ever, I know you can solve the mystery of what the writer originally intendedI'm amazing... yeah, I can do this

Thinks he does itChitanda tells him she thinks he's wrongBeing that she's his muse basically he's totally BTFO already

Rethinks everything after the 'battle' is already overRealizes he was terribly wrongConfronts Empress"Yeah I just gave you a motivational speech to hand me a twist script that would stun the audience because the acting couldn't carry the movie. LOL THANKS."

He was not only wrong but COMPLETELY wrong when he was on a high after solving so many mysteries without a hitch. She knocked him down a peg basically.

Well, more like his sister knocked him down a peg. Empress in the end was just another tool too. The true empress is his sister.

7 months ago

Ian Price

I think the anime did downplay Misaki's true character, but it was still pretty clear that she always had her own agenda.

7 months ago

Justin Miller

KyoAni's magnum opus.

7 months ago

Jonathan Russell

Chitanda tells him she thinks he's wrongNot just Chitanda though.Satoshi and Mayaka also poked holes in his theory, whereas before they were very much lost compared to him.

7 months ago

Jacob Barnes

Bitchirisu a shit. A SHIIIEET!

7 months ago

Ryder Bennett

I remember Mayaka approaching him afterwards and telling him he was wrong. Wasn't Satoshi satisfied though?

7 months ago

Luke Lewis

Is it bad that I can hear the "SUMIMAZEN SUMIMAZEN!"

7 months ago

Christopher Thompson

Fuck you. Empress best girl

7 months ago

Michael White

I thought each of the characters disagreed with him in private because they didn't want to call him out in public, but I may be misremembering.

7 months ago

Nicholas Jackson

She did not tell him he was wrong, she just pointed out a hole in his theory but she said it probably was not important in the end.

7 months ago

Robert Flores

Oh yeah the rope.

7 months ago

Grayson Phillips

As if!

7 months ago

Blake Brown

Ah I just pulled it up.Satoshi mentioned that Oreki's solution took a page from Christie, when the scriptwriter only read Doyle.

7 months ago

Levi Cruz

Ah, yeah yeah. So right they all three had their disagreements with him. No wonder he was as assblasted as he was. He missed so much.

7 months ago

Hunter Nguyen

Yeah, it's pretty sad watching it happen too, because they come talk to him one after another, just bang bang bang, and he grows visibly more frustrated each time.I forgot how much I liked Hyouka.

7 months ago

Joshua Lopez

That was Chitanda.

7 months ago

Connor Harris

What does she do for a living anyway? I can't remember if they ever mentioned it.

7 months ago

Ethan Perry

Female Indiana Jones

7 months ago

Brayden Nelson

One of my favorite parts is when Smugi makes Mayaka mad and then the club president runs out with the poster to hang by the door. Very subtle way to show that it was intentional, planned and premeditated as a way to promote the club's activities. Things like this is why Hyouka is better when you rewatch it.

7 months ago

Gabriel Foster

Between 1 and 2.

7 months ago

Liam Evans

Smugi?

7 months ago

Parker Miller

The smug cosplayer in Mayaka's club that bullied her about there being no masterpieces. Or this

7 months ago

Kevin Allen

It wasn't just him being manipulated or put down that got to him it was the fact that he was hurting the original writers feelings by changing the interpretation of her script.He gets manipulated all the time by his sister so I doubt he would get that mad and empress-chan genuinely thought his ending was genuis and would say whatever it took to get him to help.It's the fact he was called in because empress-chan actually thought the writer was shit, put writer-chan down gently because she thought her work wasn't good enough and went with his idea.