[This is being reopened. Please be civil to one another, no baiting or flaming, name calling - you know..... the usual "org rules". Any shitty problems with this thread and it will be shut down and offenders will be dealt with accordingly - this is a warning - luv4u]

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Since the original topic was locked I have made a new one as it is still very much a newsworthy issue.

Nathan Phillips, a Native American activist left an “Indigenous Peoples Rally” to ‘pray’ at students after another group of adult males verbally attacked them. Mr. Philips did not seem to care that the other group of men were yelling insults and slurs at the children, and entered the group of minors beating a drum as he chanted what he claimed to be a ‘spiritual’ song or prayer. Phillips, who has since come under fire for misrepresenting his military record, settled on one student and stood very close to the boy as he beat his drum and sang.

And Edited video was posted with the statements that the students went to the “Indigenous Peoples Rally” and surrounded Mr. Phillips and harassed him with chants and slurs of their own. Later, unedited footage revealed that a group of men from a third group had been yelling at the students with slurs and calling the students “incest babies” and “demons.”

Furthermore, Mr. Philips was found to have both, directly and indirectly, misrepresented his military service. He claimed to be a “Recon Ranger” which is not true as his actual job was a refrigerator repairman. He also failed to correct the record when he was referred to as a combat veteran. It is true he was active duty during the Vietnam War, it was only for basic training for reserve status and not active duty. In his time he was found to be AWOL several times and left service with the rank of E-1 Private.

EDITS made to correct errors and other issues...

Also, more video has emerged where Philips claims to have been "in theater" meaning in the combat zone. There is also some question as to the type of Discharge.
[Edited 1/24/19 15:25pm]

What if half the things ever said
Turned out 2 be a lie
How will U know the Truth?

Well i disapprove of people picking on those idiotic kids because they are just kids after all but i approve of people stealing valour and lying about their military service because its hilarious so I suppose id call this one a draw.

Seriously? The first thread was closed? For what? A misrepresentative title?

When things aren't what you thought they were and don't work out the way you expect, just take your ball and go home. Is that about right?

"Old news"? SMH!

These kids and their families are still being subjected to harassment and death threats. Twitter is still failing to suspend or deplatform people for threats. Some media is still spreading proven lies. This is not over and it's not old.

Well i disapprove of people picking on those idiotic kids because they are just kids after all but i approve of people stealing valour and lying about their military service because its hilarious so I suppose id call this one a draw.

Some people value honesty and integrity... I am sure if you were say passed over for a big promotion because some co-worker lied on their resume... you would not find it so funny.

What if half the things ever said
Turned out 2 be a lie
How will U know the Truth?

Seriously? The first thread was closed? For what? A misrepresentative title?

When things aren't what you thought they were and don't work out the way you expect, just take your ball and go home. Is that about right?

"Old news"? SMH!

These kids and their families are still being subjected to harassment and death threats. Twitter is still failing to suspend or deplatform people for threats. Some media is still spreading proven lies. This is not over and it's not old.

I do not know why it was closed. I guess I need to edit the post...

What if half the things ever said
Turned out 2 be a lie
How will U know the Truth?

On Saturday, a viral video emerged of ateenage boy wearing a “Make America Great Again” hat standing in front of Nathan Phillips, a Native American activist and Omaha elder, as he beat a drum and sang on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. The video was taken on Friday, the same day as the Indigenous Peoples March, and showed other boys, many of them also in Trump-branded apparel, dancing and laughing nearby.

Philips told severalmediaoutlets that he believed the students, who were from Covington Catholic high school in Kentucky, and were in DC to participate in the annual March for Life, were mocking him, and the video was shared repeatedly as a powerful example of racism in the Trump era.

But the conversation began to shift on Sunday when some observers claimed that a small group of Black Hebrew Israelite protesters standing nearby were to blame for the incident.

Another, longer video soonemerged, showing a verbal exchangebetween the Covington students and a small group of Black Hebrew Israelite protesters in the moments before Phillips appeared.

In a statement on Sunday, Nick Sandmann, the boy in the initial video, argued that the Hebrew Israelites instigated the incident and that his classmates “wanted to drown out the hateful comments that were being shouted at us.”

President Donald Trump, conservative commentators, and a number of prominent journalists responded to the second video and Sandmann’s statement by saying that the early criticism of studen... overblown, and the result of a rush to judgement. Phillips, for his part, explained in interviews that he wanted to separate the students and the Hebrew Israelites, noting that the men were vastly outnumbered by students. “These young men were beastly and these old black individuals was their prey,” Phillips said.

The Black Hebrew Israelites, meanwhile, have said that they are being used as a scapegoat for the students’ behavior. Now, more than three days after the video first went viral, the small group finds itself in the middle of a controversy over very different framings of the rally incident.

Beau Friedlander at NBC has written an article which attempts to make the case that it is racist and anti-semetic to question the media's false narrative about the Covington Catholic students, Mr. Phillips and the black hebrew israelites.

So the media gets proven to be liars that can't do research that independents on the internet are able to do, like watching all the videos to see what really happened or investigate Phillips' military records to find out the truth about him, and they react by attacking the people that exposed their unprofessionalism, partisanship, and lies by calling them racist?

At this point, t's safe to assume these kids will not be punished by the school much less expelled.

I was fooled too. I still think he should have walked away. To see people happy the kids were going be punished was odd before we found out the truth... but what was worst was how some refused to back off once we did.

And then the scary part was how people were calling for the kids to be attacked.. some offering sex acts or other valuable things... those people should be charged. I did hear that many of them did backtrack or delete posts. And one producer apparently was fired for calling for the kids to be murdered.

Like you said the media failed in this case.

What if half the things ever said
Turned out 2 be a lie
How will U know the Truth?

At this point, t's safe to assume these kids will not be punished by the school much less expelled.

I was fooled too. I still think he should have walked away. To see people happy the kids were going be punished was odd before we found out the truth... but what was worst was how some refused to back off once we did.

And then the scary part was how people were calling for the kids to be attacked.. some offering sex acts or other valuable things... those people should be charged. I did hear that many of them did backtrack or delete posts. And one producer apparently was fired for calling for the kids to be murdered.

Like you said the media failed in this case.

The media did not do their jobs, they just got their "facts" from social media and ran with it. It took independent journalists and curious people that were willing to watch hours of video to uncover the truth about what happened in DC and Phillips' real military record.

I was fooled too. I still think he should have walked away. To see people happy the kids were going be punished was odd before we found out the truth... but what was worst was how some refused to back off once we did.

And then the scary part was how people were calling for the kids to be attacked.. some offering sex acts or other valuable things... those people should be charged. I did hear that many of them did backtrack or delete posts. And one producer apparently was fired for calling for the kids to be murdered.

Like you said the media failed in this case.

The media did not do their jobs, they just got their "facts" from social media and ran with it. It took independent journalists and curious people that were willing to watch hours of video to uncover the truth about what happened in DC and Phillips' real military record.

They saw white kids that they assumed are affluent and were MAGA hat wearing Trump supporters who dared to commit "facecrime" a war hero! LOL

What if half the things ever said
Turned out 2 be a lie
How will U know the Truth?

Not controversial, the Indian was in the right and the kids were being racist little dicks.

wrong and the video proves it... it was that other group of ADULTS that were yelling racial slurs and other horrible insults at the kids... and the LIAR Philips decided he better go scold the kids? and what did they do? the LOOKED at him and did not run away? Why should they back down when Solen Valor Mr Refigerator Repair... AWOL... Loser (Most people get E2 in less than a year and E3 in 18 months and E4 in 3 years) E1 Buck private... intruded into their space?

Oh, and he apparently has a criminal record! Other than AWOL (which I do not really understand... I thought he was just a Reservist... and unless activated (and drills are not activation) you cannot be AWOL.

But anyway... Philips was wrong...

but you know if you ignore the videos... and facts...

What if half the things ever said
Turned out 2 be a lie
How will U know the Truth?

Mainstream media kept it silent for most part that Phillips was never deployed to Vietnam or more to the video. This I know after speaking to some old people at a coffee shop this morning. D Lemon and Cuomo are doing the work, working overtime to sell more false narratives. Crashing the church service was kept quiet. I probably reach 1000 people just telling them about alternative media. Word of mouth. The truth will spread. The truth will win. They will have to kill me to win.

so far it is interesting... i like when he mentions 'russian ads' sad how the far left just believed the false story that russia helped hillary lose because someone on russia exercised free speech to post ads and then some cheer when the US government charges them with a crime? of what? LOL sick and scary.

(and russia said they wanted to mess with the US...and they did... thus all the trump haters being tricked into thinking that russia agents were able to influence the outcome... )

What if half the things ever said
Turned out 2 be a lie
How will U know the Truth?

Mainstream media kept it silent for most part that Phillips was never deployed to Vietnam or more to the video. This I know after speaking to some old people at a coffee shop this morning. D Lemon and Cuomo are doing the work, working overtime to sell more false narratives. Crashing the church service was kept quiet. I probably reach 1000 people just telling them about alternative media. Word of mouth. The truth will spread. The truth will win. They will have to kill me to win.

it is not that they got took! it is not that many people totally accepted the lie... we saw that in the original topic from the first word in the title... I get some were mad at the kid... i was mad! I still say he should have backed down. (as if some of his main critics would have)

the evil was in not retracing and not backing down... not having the moral fiber to admit they made a mistake... sad.

but again we all know it had everything to do with the hat...

What if half the things ever said
Turned out 2 be a lie
How will U know the Truth?

Mainstream media kept it silent for most part that Phillips was never deployed to Vietnam or more to the video. This I know after speaking to some old people at a coffee shop this morning. D Lemon and Cuomo are doing the work, working overtime to sell more false narratives. Crashing the church service was kept quiet. I probably reach 1000 people just telling them about alternative media. Word of mouth. The truth will spread. The truth will win. They will have to kill me to win.

"Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost".
-Thomas Jefferson

Well i disapprove of people picking on those idiotic kids because they are just kids after all but i approve of people stealing valour and lying about their military service because its hilarious so I suppose id call this one a draw.

Some people value honesty and integrity... I am sure if you were say passed over for a big promotion because some co-worker lied on their resume... you would not find it so funny.

I wasn't aware this guy got promoted recently. I'd definitely be more impressed if he had gone to prison as a conscientious objector though, that's true.