I read that story somewhere too. The reason they do'nt open the contributors edition to the public because others are selling it but now they are selling it too. If the want the map to be more detailed they should open it to all GPS users and just campaign or inform the public that it should not be for sale.

the reason they don't open the contributors edition to the public is that it's a "contributors" map.
you contribute, you get the map.
you don't contribute, you can f%^k o^f.
guys like you who don't contribute nor willing to expand the map and just try to leech of others are basically the main reason they went to the contributing system.

afaik the map hasn't been sold to anyone. older version get licensed out to papago i believe

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the reason they don't open the contributors edition to the public is that it's a "contributors" map.
you contribute, you get the map.
you don't contribute, you can f%^k o^f.
guys like you who don't contribute nor willing to expand the map and just try to leech of others are basically the main reason they went to the contributing system.

afaik the map hasn't been sold to anyone. older version get licensed out to papago i believe

We beg to differ from you, we have some well known examples:
TrackSource Projeto Brazil

Very good project , maps are downloadable for everyone and the forum is full of infos for all users, probably one of the best map for Brazil and users are very active in many forums to give feedback and useful contributes.Updated every month.

Free Topo Spain, etc etc , I could continue...
All these are free and open projects, forums are opened for users and they can partecipate,get infos and help, download, to be involved and contribute in a friendly context.
Restrictions ,I guess ,are self-defeating and generate suspects, like we can read above.

Cat, that's great info. Proves that opening a project to the public does not mean it is going to die and not get updated...well, look at google maps and osm.

Originally Posted by dong1432

you don't contribute, you can f%^k o^f.
guys like you who don't contribute nor willing to expand the map and just try to leech of others are basically the main reason they went to the contributing system.
afaik the map hasn't been sold to anyone. older version get licensed out to papago i believe

not to add fuel here but that is harsh, you're taking it too personally like some of the more obsessed roadguide guys. afaik, the complaints of contributors is that the project leaders are making money off the contributions that others freely "contributed". but don't flame me, that's just what i heard...if it isn't that way at all, feel free to correct it, nicely.

I'm not a contributor to Roadguide.ph but I can understand what dong 1432 means, although he could have been a little bit mellow in his reply. For sure, there are great maps out there from the other part of the world that are open to the public and thriving. But the main difference with them is the local culture here in the Philippines. People do tend to be a bit lazy here and they would rather get the map for free and walk away rather than voluntary helping in improving the map. So what might work in other places doesn't necessarily mean will work here.

Take the case of OSM Philippines vs. Roadguide.ph maps. By just comparing the amount of map data between the two maps, it's very clear that Roadguide.ph is a clear winner. I have both maps in my GPSR (ver. 2.01 from Roadguide and latest OSM map) and routing is much better with Roadguide map. OSM is open and free, yet it seems that less people are interested in contributing data there. Maybe the leaders of Roadguide see this scenario, hence their decision to continue to keep the map available to contributors only. Forcing people to contribute is a working formula for them, and makes their map much better than the competition.

And to be fair to leaders of Roadguide, they licensed their maps to other companies, but I believe older versions of it and with agreement from contributors. I've been lurking at that site for quite some time now and at least that's what my understanding is from the posts of the mods. If you're pissed off that your contribution will be licensed later, then don't give it to them. But judging at how their map continue to improve, it seems most contributors don't mind that as long as at the end of the day, they get the latest map version for free.

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