Near Wildomar there's the Santa Rosa Plateau in Murrieta. Not super challenging, but it's close. We do about a 10 mile loop there that takes about an hour. It's mostly singletrack, but watch out for hikers and equestrians.

There's San Juan Trail off of 74 toward OC. 11 mile climb and 11 mile downhill (up and down) that's full of switchbacks and cliff-ish riding, and some rooty-foresty stuff at the top.

There's Idyllwild - Hurkey Creek is the 9 mile race course loop. Does include a little fire road, and pavement back toward the beginning.

There's also a ton of trails in San Diego, and a lot in OC and farther north.

Supposedly there was going to be a trail system with Butterfield Stagecoach? I saw a flyer for opening weekend but haven't heard anything about it. Also in the coming months there should be open trails at Vail Lake Resort, which is outside of Temecula.

If there's no interest in driving, etc. then the above info isn't really useful. Maybe other people know of more local trails, but we live in the area and usually drive to Escondido, Idyllwild, and will probably start driving to the OC more often to hit up trails.

I guess I was the only one that thought my joke was funny. Consider it s free bump.

Anyway, yes, superman is still closed, and slaughterhouse is overgrown and rutted. I typically ride sylvan 3x a week. Its close, and a nice place. Vail is already open, plenty of trails out there. San Juan Trail off of Ortega. There is also more stuff up behind Santa Rosa, by the radio towers.

tink is looking for something fun, slightly technical (read equivalent to chiquito/viejo tie). i like rocks & drops, but nothing over my head- literally. burdman wants me to practice my switchbacks, but i'll save that for sjt. single track is preferable but don't mind fire road if it's on the up, as long as i get some st on the down. is that more specific for ya'll?

Near Wildomar there's the Santa Rosa Plateau in Murrieta. Not super challenging, but it's close. We do about a 10 mile loop there that takes about an hour. It's mostly singletrack, but watch out for hikers and equestrians.

There's San Juan Trail off of 74 toward OC. 11 mile climb and 11 mile downhill (up and down) that's full of switchbacks and cliff-ish riding, and some rooty-foresty stuff at the top.

There's Idyllwild - Hurkey Creek is the 9 mile race course loop. Does include a little fire road, and pavement back toward the beginning.

There's also a ton of trails in San Diego, and a lot in OC and farther north.

Supposedly there was going to be a trail system with Butterfield Stagecoach? I saw a flyer for opening weekend but haven't heard anything about it. Also in the coming months there should be open trails at Vail Lake Resort, which is outside of Temecula.

If there's no interest in driving, etc. then the above info isn't really useful. Maybe other people know of more local trails, but we live in the area and usually drive to Escondido, Idyllwild, and will probably start driving to the OC more often to hit up trails.

tks for the post. very helpful. we did san juan/viejo tie/chiquito last sat. we're from oc, so we ride those trails regularly. maybe take a looksee at the plateau. tks!

How does one gauge intermediate/advanced for someone they do not know? If the reviews in this website are any indication of how some may feel about their riding prowess and their ratings of trails in relation to that, we may as well all get road bikes.

I tink tink needs a better spokesperson, mon (all puns intended).

well, gee, how does one, or all for that matter gauge intermediate/advanced in the guidebooks. there's obviously a set of parameters to go by. maybe you should try using those, or better yet, don't participate at all...

Are you guys available all weekend? I'm sure we'll ride at least 3 days (not full days, but during the day at some point). I'd like to check out Whiting Ranch, and we may head up to Idyllwild as well. May do a quick ride at Santa Rosa, but not entirely sure.

you could stop by back alley bikes off of the clinton keith exit of the 15 in murrieta, thats pretty close. there is also IE bikes off of the 215 and for some reason I can't remember the freaking exit name!

We'll be there on Thanksgiving Day and would like to get a ride before we're stuffed. On Friday, we're heading up to Big Bear to do some riding on the weekend.

Thanks for the invite and if you're schedule permits; we'd be more then happy to hook up for a ride.

Originally Posted by aword4you

Are you guys available all weekend? I'm sure we'll ride at least 3 days (not full days, but during the day at some point). I'd like to check out Whiting Ranch, and we may head up to Idyllwild as well. May do a quick ride at Santa Rosa, but not entirely sure.

there is also IE bikes off of the 215 and for some reason I can't remember the freaking exit name!

IE Bikes is off the 215 at the Los Alamos exit. To get to the 215, you have to get off the 15 south at Murrieta Hot Springs Rd. Make a left and then get on the 215 north. Going north on the 215, get off at Los Alamos and turn right. Make a left at the 1st signal. They're in the back LEFT corner of the shopping center right next to the dry cleaners. Ask for Matt and tell him I sent you. He'll treat you right. I'll be there in the morning getting my brakes fixed. And FWIW I am traveling from the OC to Murrieta 'cause Matt's the only one I trust with my bike.

Whenever I look at a guide boook, it's easy to consider the source because more often than not, there is a bio on the author(s). Then again, I don't ever buy guide books and trust maps and instinct more, so your answering my question with your question does not really pertain to me. Maybe you should try using maps, or better yet, don't ride anywhere new at all. I do admire how you leashed your dog in this thread though. His virtual puffed out chest was pretty funny.

well, here's a bio for you. i ride w/the warrior's society dog soldiers. i love ramero & jesusita in santa barbara. gooseberry mesa is a blast. i love san juan at night & my favorite ride is viejo tie to chiquito to the candy store. i've done pinos & smash face. you ever do smash face. have YOU ever even HEARD of smash face?

oh, & my dog just might be able to to chase your tail up any hill & catch your pathetic arse, oh, but wait, like you said, 'you're just a net geek who probably doesn't even ride', right? right. that's what i thought. you ought to try it. it's a blast.

you could stop by back alley bikes off of the clinton keith exit of the 15 in murrieta, thats pretty close. there is also IE bikes off of the 215 and for some reason I can't remember the freaking exit name!

are you martin? i remember your handle from last season w/silverspot & krash...

yes, smash face is legal. it in the clevland forest... off main divide. hard to keep on it. need to go w/someone who knows the way...

Yes it's me long time no see. I've got to hook up with you guys soon. Just did Chiquito the other day. Rode from the candy store up Chiquito up to Viejo Tie and then returned the same way and bombed down that bad boy. It was an awesome ride! Heading out to Palm Springs & Idylwild this weekend for a bigtime singletrack fix. Let's ride again soon.

Originally Posted by treadheadted
Whenever I look at a guide boook, it's easy to consider the source because more often than not, there is a bio on the author(s). Then again, I don't ever buy guide books and trust maps and instinct more, so your answering my question with your question does not really pertain to me. Maybe you should try using maps, or better yet, don't ride anywhere new at all. I do admire how you leashed your dog in this thread though. His virtual puffed out chest was pretty funny.

"Now you funny too" - George Thorogood

My girl rips you a new one...and that's all you can come back with? That was weak!
Mr. Nugent would be very disappointed in you.

Birds of a feather, huh? The both of you with all of your chest puffing and posturing on the internet are very amusing. The only thing that was ripped was my sides from laughing. Why don't you contact Ted and ask him just how disappointed he might be in me? That would be a hoot.

As far as that SCE trail that ends at the mouth of Ladd Canyon goes, do you all have a 24 hour webcam on it, or some gnome in the bushes reporting everyone who rides it? Didn't think so.

Birds of a feather, huh? The both of you with all of your chest puffing and posturing on the internet are very amusing. The only thing that was ripped was my sides from laughing. Why don't you contact Ted and ask him just how disappointed he might be in me? That would be a hoot.

As far as that SCE trail that ends at the mouth of Ladd Canyon goes, do you all have a 24 hour webcam on it, or some gnome in the bushes reporting everyone who rides it? Didn't think so.

Hey Medheadted,
Do you actually own/ride a MTB or do you just like to quote things you read in the newspaper about trails, in an effort to make yourself sound legit?

Come on out and ride with my girl and myself sometime. We'll take you on some nice easy trails around here that I'm sure a serious rider such as yourself (anyone with a screen name like yours must be a serious rider) would have no problem with.
But I do need to warn you, those reflectors on your handle bar and wheels may get broken.

Dude or dudette, back away from the peace pipe. Remember that the founders of that club have largely left, including most of the RADS, Sprocketheads and whatnot (check the old newsletters for the founders that are largely gone). It means nothing other than the fact the jersey is a shill for C. Vargas and his meglomaniacal tendencies.

As for rides, check out the singletrack from S. Main Divide to Wildomar (near the road to Wildomar from Ortega/Main Divide). Cool, fun and lots of climbing. From there you can connect to the plateau, hook out and up and over Clinton Keith, if not some of the more extreme trails on that side.

As for rides, check out the singletrack from S. Main Divide to Wildomar (near the road to Wildomar from Ortega/Main Divide). Cool, fun and lots of climbing. From there you can connect to the plateau, hook out and up and over Clinton Keith, if not some of the more extreme trails on that side.

tink is looking for something fun, slightly technical (read equivalent to chiquito/viejo tie). i like rocks & drops, but nothing over my head- literally. burdman wants me to practice my switchbacks, but i'll save that for sjt. single track is preferable but don't mind fire road if it's on the up, as long as i get some st on the down. is that more specific for ya'll?

I can't believe that nobody has mentioned Simpson Park in Hemet. Haven't been out that way in a couple of years but there's a fun trail net out there.