Jeffrey Kipnis begins the seventh of the Fecundity of a Mossy Climate conversations by reviewing Elena Manferdini’s work, arguing that even when the work seems graphic or pictorial, Manferdini is always thinking architecturally. Manferdini joins Kipnis to discuss her use of imagery from nature, and the kind of political role that architecture can play. They respond to questions from the audience about politics, audiences, and the problem of scaling-up.