I have Just Cause and Saints Row....but the rest I don't own. Pretty sweet deal. Tell me why again that MS is forcing me to pay $60 a year just to play online and for frankly pretty weak discounts on throwaway arcade titles...when I can get tons of free stuff for the same price with PS+, in addition to very large discounts on top line games.

Seriously though, it doesn't bother anyone that you are forced to pay $60 for basically nothing on the Xbox, but for the same $60 you are given so much extra on the PS3? I don't mean to make it "OMG XBOX SUXXX, PS3 RULZ".....I just find it absurd that Microsoft is allowed to get away with it and the most anyone can say in their defense is "they do it because they can". I've been a Live subscriber since the very start, but I am seriously considering letting my sub run out. I will put my money where my mouth is. Hopefully more people will as well and they will start to not take their customers for granted and we will get some good value added to our Live Gold subscriptions.

People have invested in XBOX as their multiplayer platform of choice because they were so far ahead of Sony in that capacity.

Gellar is right, Sony has to throw free stuff at us in an attempt to get people to move over. And it's going to take a lot more than free games. Some people haven't even purchased a PS3 because the XBOX experience was that much better that much earlier.

I pay for both because I can and I have no problem with it. Just because you can't and are forced to choose one or the other seems like the reason why you have to validate your choice by being critical of the other.

The fact of the matter is that the Xbox Live experience is better thought out, laid out and easier to use as a service than Sony's half hearted attempt. Yeah, it's great that Sony is throwing all these free games to users, and I'll certainly download all of them to get maximum value out of my subscription, but that's just a way to distract people from the reality that Sony really needs to completely redesign their online experience in order to compete with Xbox Live.

Yep, I own a 360 and a PS3, but my PS3 is a single player exclusive/Blu-ray/Netflix streaming machine. Multiplatform and multiplayer games are all on the 360 because the interface and experience is that much better, and because most people I play MP with are there as well (probably for the same reasons).

I pay for both because I can and I have no problem with it. Just because you can't and are forced to choose one or the other seems like the reason why you have to validate your choice by being critical of the other.

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No, I subscribe to both and have been on Xbox Live Gold for many years. I'm being critical of one because I don't feel like I am getting $60 worth of value out of it, which is my right to do as a consumer. By all means, if you feel you are getting your moneys worth, continue to support them wholeheartedly. I am sure they are very appreciative.

people still pay $60 a year for XBL? don't they look for sales on the 12 month subscription cards and only pay $40 a year?

still, I find it funny that Sony can throw 12 free games at me and I still don't feel the need to subscribe- perhaps if there were more exclusives in the mix that I hadn't already played or can easily borrow but 7 out of the 12 I've played on the PC and another one I've tried on the 360.

Quote from: pr0ner on June 05, 2012, 05:49:47 PM

Yep, I own a 360 and a PS3, but my PS3 is a single player exclusive/Blu-ray/Netflix streaming machine.

I've only been on Gold twice but definitely didn't feel I was getting my money's worth. I still have my 360 but it rarely even gets turned on these days. I can buy Black Ops on PS3 or I can buy it on 360.. the only difference is, one platform forces you to pay a monthly fee just to play it. All these opinions about how the 360 has a "better" online experience are just that, opinions. Having had Gold (although admittedly it's been over a year since I last subscribed) and PS3 online, I prefer PS3 online and not just because it's free.

Have to agree PS Plus is becoming much better of a deal.. it's not like Sony is forcing it on anyone - you can still play online or use netflix for free. Even if you dont want to play online on Xbox and just use netflix, you still have to pay MS a fee for it. That's crazy.

Might have to subscribe to PS Plus for the first time as that's a hell of a lot of games just for one month's membership fee.

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"A gladiator does not fear death. He embraces it. Caresses it. Fucks it. Every time he enters the arena, he slides his cock into the mouth of the beast."

Seriously though, it doesn't bother anyone that you are forced to pay $60 for basically nothing on the Xbox, but for the same $60 you are given so much extra on the PS3?

My MBP and future iMac cost more than PC products for a Diablo, Civ and Internet Machine.My iPad costs more than a Kindle Fire for a tablet.My BMW costs more than my Subaru did for a 6,000 miles a year of transportation.My high fashion (High Fashion) clothing costs more than shitty stuff I can buy at the mall for something to prevent me from walking around naked.My Ferragamos costs more than Sketchers for something that prevents me from walking around barefoot.

The concept of higher value for the 'same' good is one of the things that modern business is founded on.

MS had a far superior online experience years before Sony. They got the mind share with hardcore online gamers, hence Sony has to do things like this to get their service attention. MS built their solid base going back to the first Xbox.

I also don't pay $60 nor did I pay $50 for any year of Live. I think the most I paid was $35. Deals several times a year for those who pay attention.

This is an awesome deal-there was no need to turn it into a console bashing thread. If I sign up now can I still get the games or is it only for people who were registered before the games came out?If you don't renew then the games disappear but apparently if you let your subscription lapse and then renew later you can still have access to those games. That's so many games in one month plus another 11 months worth of free games to go that I don't mind if I lose them at the end of my subscription.

If I sign up now can I still get the games or is it only for people who were registered before the games came out?If you don't renew then the games disappear but apparently if you let your subscription lapse and then renew later you can still have access to those games. That's so many games in one month plus another 11 months worth of free games to go that I don't mind if I lose them at the end of my subscription.

Yes, the games are available to everyone who signs up for PS+. You have access to the games at any time you're a subscriber, as long as you download them before they are replaced by new games.

As for XBox Live and PS+, they aren't really competing services. AFAIK, the only overlap in content between the two is the discounts, and not even those work the same way on both.

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"Why did the chicken cross the Mobius strip? To get to the same side." - The Big Bang Theory

By the way, you don't have to download now - just put everything you are interested in in your cart and then complete checkout. You can now download whenever you want (months from now, if you want). Given that a bunch of the games are 14 GB...

Awesome I bought Infamous 2 on Sunday because it was going off sale for Premium members and the next day they announced I could have gotten it free. A little disappointed about that and I have about 8 of the games on the list already but still a good deal.

Awesome I bought Infamous 2 on Sunday because it was going off sale for Premium members and the next day they announced I could have gotten it free. A little disappointed about that and I have about 8 of the games on the list already but still a good deal.

I almost pulled the trigger on that deal as well. Glad I forgot about it.

By the way, you don't have to download now - just put everything you are interested in in your cart and then complete checkout. You can now download whenever you want (months from now, if you want). Given that a bunch of the games are 14 GB...

Thanks for this tip. I was wondering how I could claim those games without having to download all of them at once.

Just remember that as soon as you let PS+ lapse, you can't play those games anymore for free.

OH - I didnt think that was the case.

NEvermind then - its kinda the same as leasing it I guess.

If they let you continue playing all the free games then people would just sign up for one month, download all the goods, and cancel. (Think I did that once on a $1 3 day trial for an adult website once, but that's besides the point.)

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"A gladiator does not fear death. He embraces it. Caresses it. Fucks it. Every time he enters the arena, he slides his cock into the mouth of the beast."

Just remember that as soon as you let PS+ lapse, you can't play those games anymore for free.

OH - I didnt think that was the case.

NEvermind then - its kinda the same as leasing it I guess.

If they let you continue playing all the free games then people would just sign up for one month, download all the goods, and cancel. (Think I did that once on a $1 3 day trial for an adult website once, but that's besides the point.)

Indeed - that was my plan :-)

Actually, doesnt this mean as well that you have to be online in order to play the games? I.e. the PS3 has to know you are a Plus costumer?

Just remember that as soon as you let PS+ lapse, you can't play those games anymore for free.

OH - I didnt think that was the case.

NEvermind then - its kinda the same as leasing it I guess.

If they let you continue playing all the free games then people would just sign up for one month, download all the goods, and cancel. (Think I did that once on a $1 3 day trial for an adult website once, but that's besides the point.)

Indeed - that was my plan :-)

Actually, doesnt this mean as well that you have to be online in order to play the games? I.e. the PS3 has to know you are a Plus costumer?

That's a good question. I suppose it could create a file somewhere that let's the game know when you Plus account expires, but I imagine you'd have to be online at some point, anyway, to update that.

I had been considering the Plus membership for some good discounts I have noticed but this deal just sold me on it. I don't own an Xbox so I will refrain from commenting about it's online service's perceived value. However, I will say that free is always good. Going to sign up now!

I had been considering the Plus membership for some good discounts I have noticed but this deal just sold me on it. I don't own an Xbox so I will refrain from commenting about it's online service's perceived value. However, I will say that free is always good. Going to sign up now!

Good old Error 8071053D is back if you try to sign into PlayStation Network from your PlayStation 3. If you try to log in to a PlayStation web site, you get a page tells you the site is down for maintenance.

It doesn't appear to be regularly scheduled, as PSN underwent regular maintenance on May 24, and the weekend after E3 would be kind of a bad time for that. I'm reaching out to Sony Computer Entertainment America representatives for more info on why this is happening and how long it's expected.

I've been a Plus member since day one and with all the free games, discounted games and extra stuff, like themes and avatars, I've filled my hard drive multiple times. I hardly find myself purchasing anything from the PS Store any more, because usually it finds it's way to Plus at a lower price point or for free. It's a fantastic service.

As for the console wars online vs. online, I was a 360 user for a few years until it broke on me and I decided to get rid of it and give the PS3 a try. I find I really don't have much gaming time these days, so I ended up sticking with the PS3. I did enjoy some things about the 360 better and I do enjoy some things about the PS3 better. They would have to combine the two consoles to come closer to fully satisfying me. Hopefully someday they can pull off a console to perfection, but for now the competition makes for some interesting things, like 12 free awesome games. Thanks Sony! Or should I say thanks Microsoft?

But, umm, I just don't see it. PSN works fine and its free. Simple interface, etc.

I can afford anything I want when it comes to games, etc. But, I do not see the need for PS+ either.

I am sticking with playstation next gen too. And, for as long as they offer it, I am keeping it free.

Some little dorky Mii guy that you can buy ball caps for just doesn't impress me..

I think everything that can be said, has been said about the differences of PSN and xbox live. I can easily say how can you not see how Xbox live is a much better online experience? I have all systems and will so for the next generation.