From the land of the first hotrods, why do you Californian's allow your government to pull this crap?

:stirpot:

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/05/576.asp :thepan:

trekster

08-11-05, 11:51 PM

HAHA, I'm moving out of california this weekend.
Hey, Stealth when is your tuning going to be available to the public. I want to get my car tuned.

I also got pulled over today. :( Not for speeding though.

slow35th

08-11-05, 11:58 PM

Typical California Crap. :cookoo: Should cut down on the number stickers you see on the Ricemobiles:rolleyes:

GAGS-V

08-11-05, 11:58 PM

Yea stealth, what ever happened to our getting together (Southern California) and getting a mass tune at once? By the way what did you get pulled over for

3rdstreet

08-12-05, 12:16 AM

whats wrong with stickers?! I've got them on my V :). :shhh:

look closely - their black on black...the stripe is actually reflective black and shines up pretty cool at night and the logos in the back behind the rear tire is done in metallic black. Probably not for most V owners...but I had to be different - besides I do this stuff myself..so I didn't really have to pay much for it and the best part about it is...they're removable when I get tired of them.

I like them...that's all that matters. :lildevil:

http://www.zonewheels.com/showroom/cadillac/cts_v_2005_1.jpg

http://www.zonewheels.com/showroom/cadillac/cts_v_2005_2.jpg

StealthV

08-12-05, 12:23 AM

California is in the works - some logistics have to be resolved this weekend.

The website was updated some time ago - since I'm about booked up, earliest I can fit something in is pushing to the fourth week of August.

http://www.stealthv.com/calibrations.htm

Dennisscars

08-12-05, 12:26 AM

Unfortunately the few screw it up for the many. The last couple years between the poot cans and Harleys with extreme loud pipes and teenagers driving cars that exceed their capabilities that would crash and burn on the evening news. It is going to squash it all. When I was young (back in the day) 350 hp was an extreme amount but more importantly like I’ve blathered before, How fast can you afford to go? Now it’s how fast can your Dad’s credit card afford you to go. I didn’t have much afford so I think the speeds, relative to discretionary income, were much less. No flame intended to the young people “who made it on their own” but we had less HP to start and much less catalog stuff to put on, the streets were less populated or it was easier to go out to the edge of town and horse around. Ok let’s see a show of hands of who’s old enough to remember when you would get pulled over with a beer the officer would pour it out and threaten to tell your Dad, which was worse than going to jail.

And since the lawmakers get paid by the amount of legislation that they print….

Medicineman

08-12-05, 12:33 AM

5 MILLION BUCKS!!!

For cops to go to school, to learn how to give my freakin CAR a ticket.......
WTF is goverment doing to this state??????? This really bums me out:(

2005V

08-12-05, 12:34 AM

California Über Alles

Luna.

08-12-05, 01:24 AM

"I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts."
-- Will Rogers.

What a total joke...

If history has taught us anything, it's that all things bend to economics...

Parker

08-12-05, 01:42 AM

**** them seizing my V and auctioning it off and keeping the profits. Glad I live in Texas for the time being. Hahaha about having to teach them how to point out a modified ride.

OuTLAw

08-12-05, 01:49 AM

Glad to see our tax dollars being put to good use. No wonder why California's deficit is so high.

Jack Ammann

08-12-05, 06:41 AM

[QUOTE=Dennisscars] Ok let’s see a show of hands of who’s old enough to remember when you would get pulled over with a beer the officer would pour it out and threaten to tell your Dad, which was worse than going to jail/QUOTE]

I remember that while I was in my '49 Olds Rocket 88...and the cops had '48 Fords...and the Cops would say, "Thanks for stopping"...LOL.

akm2k5

08-12-05, 06:58 AM

OWNED........

So they are going to pull over cars with stickers eh?
Looks like a bunch of civic owners are gonna be screwed..
Its nice to see the government limiting our rights again... Im glad I dont live in CA.

Dooman

08-12-05, 07:26 AM

Wow! It seems they can pull over anyone they feel, and it costs you $35 NO MATTER WHAT, win or lose.. Doesn't Arnold drive a modified Hummer or something?

trekster

08-12-05, 08:20 AM

Yea stealth, what ever happened to our getting together (Southern California) and getting a mass tune at once? By the way what did you get pulled over for Things came up with the V and had to get it fixed. I got pulled over for disobeying (no right turn on red) a sign. The thing that ticked me off is that I literally drove like 4 blocks before the cop pulled me over. I have a feeling that he assumed that I made that turn. I just went to traffic school last week to get rid of my point now, I have another one.

odysseus

08-12-05, 08:49 AM

WOW, since when does putting "racing" stickers on a vehicle constitute "illegal modifications"? So much for Jegs sending out stickers with every order! I can see their point of stopping 17 year olds from street racing, but this is a little overboard!

So all those NASCAR fans in pickup trucks with a big racing number "24" (Jeff Gordon is from Cali, right?) on their back windows would be outlaws in California. LOL "You hoodlum race fans, you!"

Does anyone see the irony that Arnold drives a full size Hummer getting 8 mpg, yet modified Honda's are illegal?

willsctsv

08-12-05, 08:51 AM

You Californians elected these communists to run your state! Get rid of the Liberals, and get rid of your problems. GO VOTE!
Look where your tax dollars go: Medical and welfare for Illegal Aliens, Over crowded jails with ILLEGAL ALIENS, Money for homeless drug addicts to buy more drugs, etc..

Drift-caddy

08-12-05, 10:01 AM

You boys on the Left coast do things alil differant then over here on the right coast:cool2:

Dennisscars

08-12-05, 10:34 AM

Yes, ha ha check back in January when we're still driving our cars, (well maybe if the car gestapo will still let us even with our $3.00 gas.) Attached is a weather comparision with a so cal city and Buffalo, NY avg lows.)

Kev

08-12-05, 10:47 AM

Yeah, all the hippies and flower children have grown up and they're runnin the show now... Go figure.....

Drift-caddy

08-12-05, 11:14 AM

over there, your ground shakes, over here its our heads and cam.

Kev

08-12-05, 11:29 AM

over there, your ground shakes, over here its our heads and cam.Oh, don't be too cocky now! :sneaky: We still have (and always will) a few rebels with more horsepower than we need! Sometimes the shaking ground is from those rebles and not the tectonic plates! :thepan: :stirpot:

Barak

08-12-05, 11:52 AM

Makes me sick.:vomit:The libs f'ed up the state so bad, but didn't lose a single seat in the legislature. Arnolds right when he says gerrymandering is alive and well in the state of California. We'll never get the socialists out until we resolve that problem first.

thebigjimsho

08-12-05, 11:55 AM

Yes, ha ha check back in January when we're still driving our cars, (well maybe if the car gestapo will still let us even with our $3.00 gas.) Attached is a weather comparision with a so cal city and Buffalo, NY avg lows.)You Californians have a very messed up perspective when it comes to weather. You can breeze around wildfires, earthquakes and landslides as if they were minor inconveniences. Then you get 2 minutes of light rain and everyone is doing 30mph with their flashers on. Do you guys think we go into hibernation when the snow falls?

I drove my V last winter. And it was a bad winter, at that. And I kept the F1s on, too. When we get snow, no matter how much, once the storm stops, the roads are clear within 2-3 hours. Maybe 1% of our driving time is spent in snow in the winter. That's why I like having a moonroof and the extra hp with the natural CAI. I would love to know how much more power I'm getting when it's 40 degrees out. The V accelerates harder than ever in the winter.

You think this bill is bad? How about all the cow queefin'?:farting:

California is now trying to curb cow methane. With what? Buttplugs?

Kev

08-12-05, 12:09 PM

You Californians have a very messed up perspective when it comes to weather. You can breeze around wildfires, earthquakes and landslides as if they were minor inconveniences. Then you get 2 minutes of light rain and everyone is doing 30mph with their flashers on. Do you guys think we go into hibernation when the snow falls?

I drove my V last winter. And it was a bad winter, at that. And I kept the F1s on, too. When we get snow, no matter how much, once the storm stops, the roads are clear within 2-3 hours. Maybe 1% of our driving time is spent in snow in the winter. That's why I like having a moonroof and the extra hp with the natural CAI. I would love to know how much more power I'm getting when it's 40 degrees out. The V accelerates harder than ever in the winter.

You think this bill is bad? How about all the cow queefin'?:farting:

California is now trying to curb cow methane. With what? Buttplugs?California rainy weather drivers. You obviously haven't been driving in the rain in my neck of the woods. There's just some kinda thrill doin 70+ mph in a downpour with bumper to bumper commuter traffic on all sides :crowded: and the guy behind you keeps flashing to pass! :bomb: (I guess it most be some transplanted 'Snow Bird' :hitstick: )

The cow thing is probably authored by one of the legislators who has to drive past Kettleman City on his way to Sac and is getting tired of the smell. :histeric::histeric:

Luna.

08-12-05, 12:10 PM

Things came up with the V and had to get it fixed. I got pulled over for disobeying (no right turn on red) a sign. The thing that ticked me off is that I literally drove like 4 blocks before the cop pulled me over. I have a feeling that he assumed that I made that turn. I just went to traffic school last week to get rid of my point now, I have another one.

If your ticket was issued in another county, try to go to traffic school again anyways. If that fails (which it probably won't, especially considering the timing of the tickets you mention), then there is another trick I've been keen at trying. Remit a small amount MORE then the fine. If they accept it, they will probably mail you a "refund" check. When you get that, throw that check in the trash. That's right--don't cash it. There is a chance that the point won't show on your record as a result of this (this has to do with the system considering all "financial transactions" complete and such).

Luna.

08-12-05, 12:25 PM

You Californians have a very messed up perspective when it comes to weather. You can breeze around wildfires, earthquakes and landslides as if they were minor inconveniences. Then you get 2 minutes of light rain and everyone is doing 30mph with their flashers on. Do you guys think we go into hibernation when the snow falls?

You are harping on one of my biggest frustrations. I don't think people drive all that well across the country, but, living in CA all my life, I am biased and believe people drive worse here than anythere else.

Many people are just PATHETIC drivers. Their reaction time borders on mentally retarded and they have no concept that SPEED IS IMPORTANT. If speed wasn't important, ask yourself why the fax machine was invented...

In the July 1, 2005 Wall Street Journal, there was an article ("How Brief Drop in Cars Can Trigger Tie-Ups, And Other Traffic Tales") that discussed the "patheticness" that I refer to above:

"Most jams occur way before a road reaches its capacity, and the culprits are all around you. Even in heavy, but moving traffic, inhomogeneities would have much less effect IF DRIVERS HAD FASTER REACTION TIMES {emphasis added}"

Without going into too much detail, I can summarize by saying that the end of the article strongly suggests that if people pulled their collective heads out of their a$$es & actually (1) paid attention to what they were doing (rather then, say, the conversation they were having on their cell phone...) and (2) depressed the verticle pedal on the right just a little bit more, traffic flow would be GREATLY ENHANCED...

wicked v

08-12-05, 12:41 PM

This crackdown is for all the rice burners out there who think they are driving race cars!

StealthV

08-12-05, 12:53 PM

There's just some kinda thrill doin 70+ mph in a downpour with bumper to bumper commuter traffic on all sides :crowded: and the guy behind you keeps flashing to pass! :bomb: (I guess it most be some transplanted 'Snow Bird' :hitstick: )

Fair weather people slowing down for rain is oh so funny to us snow lovers. With rain, one can still see the road ditches and keep it pointed straight. If rain is causing a visibiity problem, RainX or Zaino on the windshield will allow you to hammer down without ever turning on the wipers. If hydroplanning is an issue - buy better tires. With solutions to those two problems, the only other rain problem is the loose nut behind the wheel in the next car. Unbeknowst to most people - one can still drive and maintain control at normal highway speeds in the rain. Yes, really.

True story - it snowed about an inch overnight last year in Illinois. When I drove in to work that morning it was about 34 degress outside, with the roads a nice melting slush. Turning on the radio I find out that the schools had been cancelled that day because of the poor road conditions. Once at work, all I heard from everyone was how horrible and dangerous the roads were that morning. Sad, really sad.

The only time one needs to slow down is when one can no longer see the road (or make out the edge of the ditch) because of the zero visibility caued by the raging blizzard. Footnote: these conditions typically only at night with headlights reflecting off the snow.

Yes, I'm the one doing 75 past you with 6" of snow on the road......pulling a 5000 pound trailer.... Never had an accident, never stuffed it in the ditch....Lead, follow or get out of the way. :stirpot:

Kev

08-12-05, 12:59 PM

You are harping on one of my biggest frustrations. I don't think people drive all that well across the country, but, living in CA all my life, I am biased and believe people drive worse here than anythere else.

Many people are just PATHETIC drivers. Their reaction time borders on mentally retarded and they have no concept that SPEED IS IMPORTANT. If speed wasn't important, ask yourself why the fax machine was invented...

In the July 1, 2005 Wall Street Journal, there was an article ("How Brief Drop in Cars Can Trigger Tie-Ups, And Other Traffic Tales") that discussed the "patheticness" that I refer to above:

"Most jams occur way before a road reaches its capacity, and the culprits are all around you. Even in heavy, but moving traffic, inhomogeneities would have much less effect IF DRIVERS HAD FASTER REACTION TIMES {emphasis added}"

Without going into too much detail, I can summarize by saying that the end of the article strongly suggests that if people pulled their collective heads out of their a$$es & actually (1) paid attention to what they were doing (rather then, say, the conversation they were having on their cell phone...) and (2) depressed the verticle pedal on the right just a little bit more, traffic flow would be GREATLY ENHANCED...:stirpot: It's those "left Lane Drivers" Luna, they are the worst! :rant2: They get in the left lane and drive what ever speed they darn well feel like (usually pacing the car next to them so no one can pass) totally ignoring all the traffic backed up behind them. And then, when you do finally get the oportunity to pass them they look at you like you are some kinda murderer, scum of the earth. :tisk:

They are a hazzard to traffic safety!

ok, end of rant...

Luna.

08-12-05, 03:11 PM

:stirpot: It's those "left Lane Drivers" Luna, they are the worst! :rant2: They get in the left lane and drive what ever speed they darn well feel like (usually pacing the car next to them so no one can pass) totally ignoring all the traffic backed up behind them. And then, when you do finally get the oportunity to pass them they look at you like you are some kinda murderer, scum of the earth. :tisk:

They are a hazzard to traffic safety!

ok, end of rant...

I'm not sure if they are the worst, but, without a doubt, if they aren't the worst, they are top 3... :yup:

Simple driving motto -- If you are holding someone up, you are f-ing up... :)

Kev

08-12-05, 03:33 PM

I'm not sure if they are the worst, but, without a doubt, if they aren't the worst, they are top 3... :yup:

This is typical liberalism, punish the many for the sins of the few. For those that live in Illinois, Minnesota, NY, Michigan, Mass..., (blue states), etc; similiar laws soon to follow.:canttalk:

thebigjimsho

08-12-05, 04:32 PM

This is typical liberalism, punish the many for the sins of the few. For those that live in Illinois, Minnesota, NY, Michigan, Mass..., (blue states), etc; similiar laws soon to follow.:canttalk:As for as many liberals there are in this state, there are still quite a few conservatives, enough to have somewhat of a balance. Sure, we've got some wacky laws and we were the first state to allow gay marriage, but our driving laws aren't that bad.

We don't have a primary seat belt law. We do have a mandatory motorcycle helmet law. We do have quite a number of revenue grabbers in the form of the Massachusetts State Police. But we don't have cruising laws. We do have strict inspection guidelines with very tough emissions. Street racing is frowned upon but you rarely hear of a suspended license, never mind compounding cars involved.

We admittedly do not have a large minority population. We probably have as many executives in Porsches, Mercedes, BMWs and Cadillacs as we do low cost, high performance street racers. We're not as cookoo as you may think. Don't let my behavior throw you off.:thepan:

Kev

08-12-05, 05:23 PM

Fair weather people slowing down for rain is oh so funny to us snow lovers. With rain, one can still see the road ditches and keep it pointed straight. If rain is causing a visibiity problem, RainX or Zaino on the windshield will allow you to hammer down without ever turning on the wipers. If hydroplanning is an issue - buy better tires. With solutions to those two problems, the only other rain problem is the loose nut behind the wheel in the next car. Unbeknowst to most people - one can still drive and maintain control at normal highway speeds in the rain. Yes, really.

.....snip......

The only time one needs to slow down is when one can no longer see the road (or make out the edge of the ditch) because of the zero visibility caued by the raging blizzard. Footnote: these conditions typically only at night with headlights reflecting off the snow.

.......snip......Average rainfall? Not a problem. I have to say there have been a few occasions where I have been driving and reach a downpour of rain that reduced visibility to 5 feet +/- which is about the end of my hood. These downpours come on suddenly here with little warning and are capable of rattling the nerves of the more confident drivers at times. I've seen this even in the daytime, of course the cloud cover is so dark and stormy that 12 noon is like twilght.

The biggest danger as you've mentioned, is the person next to you who panics in such situations, or starts to hydroplane and is unsure how to maintain control. Sure, buy better tires but when the best wet weather tires hit standing water deeper than 1 1/2" there could be trouble.

The most skilled, most confident, highly trained drivers at times find themselves in situations they can't handle, sometimes they make it through, sometimes they don't. Stuff happens.

So StealthV, you go on and drive 75+ in 6" of snow pulling that 5,000 lb trailer but if you should hit some black ice, jacknife, roll, crash and burn, dieing in the process don't come cryin to me! :rolleyes:

"A man's got to know his limitations." :)

Florian

08-12-05, 05:31 PM

If your ticket was issued in another county, try to go to traffic school again anyways. If that fails (which it probably won't, especially considering the timing of the tickets you mention), then there is another trick I've been keen at trying. Remit a small amount MORE then the fine. If they accept it, they will probably mail you a "refund" check. When you get that, throw that check in the trash. That's right--don't cash it. There is a chance that the point won't show on your record as a result of this (this has to do with the system considering all "financial transactions" complete and such).

Urban myth Luna....all youre doing is giving money away for no reason. Youll never get a 'refund' check for paying slightly over the fine....just plain ol BS :helpless:

F

Luna.

08-12-05, 06:22 PM

Urban myth Luna....all youre doing is giving money away for no reason. Youll never get a 'refund' check for paying slightly over the fine....just plain ol BS :helpless: F

Perhaps. That was why I specifically said that there is a "chance."

In any case, 2 things happened that made me raise an eyebrow at it. Firstly, I just paid for a ticket, but the staff at the courthouse was dyslexic and read me the wrong amount. I can assure you that I got my check back. As such, I'm not sure that they just mindlessly cash checks for incorrect amounts.

Secondly, I was informed by a work associate that such a trick did work for a family member of theirs. I insisted that such was a ploy and such family member was exagerating, but that was met with strong resistance...("No!! It really worked!!"). As such, I merely implied it was possible...

"A man's got to know his limitations." :)

Nice Dirty Harry reference... :cool:

2004ctsv

08-12-05, 08:18 PM

Just another example of the continental tilt theory.

That's when the tectonic plates shifted and all the fruit and nuts rolled to the west coast.

Tony

BTW- the rest of my family moved to Hawthorne, Torrance and Gardenia. I understand the tilt theory very well.

thebigjimsho

08-12-05, 08:42 PM

I guess that explains myself. My father is from Mass, thus the sarcastic, wise-ass character. My mom is from California, Berkeley to be exact. That should explain the nutty, almost druglike actions.:shhh:

Dennisscars

08-12-05, 09:45 PM

all the fruit and nuts rolled to the west coast.

yes, we have our share but they must be out on vacation when I've travelled to tornado country and beyond.

You can breeze around wildfires, earthquakes and landslides as if they were minor inconveniences. Then you get 2 minutes of light rain and everyone is doing 30mph with their flashers on.

LMAO you win, this is so true!

California is now trying to curb cow methane. With what? Buttplugs?

I think there may be a shortage up around SF...:highfive:

There's just some kinda thrill doin 70+ mph in a downpour with bumper to bumper commuter traffic on all sides :crowded: and the guy behind you keeps flashing to pass! :bomb:

You should see what they do in the San Joaquin fog that you can only see 1 or 2 stripes. The guy in front wants to go 20, you want to go 30 the and guy behind you wants to go 80.

Dennisscars

08-12-05, 09:49 PM

strongly suggests that if people pulled their collective heads out of their a$$es & actually (1) paid attention to what they were doing (rather then, say, the conversation they were having on their cell phone...)

Let's all say it together...
GET OFF THE DAMN PHONE,

PUT YOUR MAKEUP ON AT HOME,

WHY DO YOU NEED TO EAT IN THE CAR?

DRIVE THE DAMN CAR AND STAY OUT OF MY WAY!

calicadi

08-12-05, 11:29 PM

Anybody remember when rodders would chop and channel and cops would run the cigarette pack test?

1fstkde

08-13-05, 02:31 PM

out in los angeles they put up these 2 massive electronic road signs, saying "modified exhaust alert" and cops sitting right next to it..:confused: ...so while a block away an old lady was getting her purse stolen, they have the time to hang out.:bomb: ...whats this world or this state comming to.:cookoo: ..had to coast by them in nuetral...black stealth baby!! under the radar...

Luna.

08-13-05, 05:19 PM

Let's all say it together...
GET OFF THE DAMN PHONE,
PUT YOUR MAKEUP ON AT HOME,
WHY DO YOU NEED TO EAT IN THE CAR?
DRIVE THE DAMN CAR AND STAY OUT OF MY WAY!

While all is 100% accurate, the bolded comments about the PHONE & STAYING OUT OF THE WAY are the ones that should be emphasized above all else...

willsctsv

08-13-05, 05:43 PM

Illegal Aliens can rape, rob, and invade your town. Law enforcement does nothing and says it's a federal problem. The feds do nothing! The US Government unfortunately is failing all of us. Judges let criminals, and child molesters out on the street to commit crimes again. The system is broken, and the political powers do not care. They worry about Ricers with a Fart Cans!
When a chemical or Biological weapon goes off in NYC, or LA, and takes out 1 million people or more, what will the gov't say???? Or Do?
They will be busy telling us not to hate the Muslims, that Islam is peaceful and this was the actions of a few radicals. YEAH RIGHT!!!
We need politicians with balls, to crush the left wing agenda that has taken away alot of our heritage,or has tried to act like it never happened.
I hate to sound so political on this forum. But this California thing Tweaked me.
BUY a V now, the end is near!!!!LOL!!

Jurisimprudence

08-13-05, 05:43 PM

I don't hardly know how to react to California's latests antics. First, this crazy little piece of paper that is commonly referred to as the Constitution was amended a while ago to include around 10 amendments. You may have heard of it. It's called the Bill or Rights. The first of the 10 amendments in that document permits something called free speech. Although 9 people in D.C. that dress up in dark robes have said that the government can place reasonable time, place and limits on speech and such rights do not extend to private property, the last time I checked, the roads were public property and something like a written statement contained on a vehicle was just about as damn close to pure speech as you can get. It never ceases to amaze me how blurry the line between "probably cause" and personal subjective prejudice seems to be anymore, but alas, I digress . . .

OCESCALADE

08-13-05, 05:50 PM

Different counties have different regulations. In LA they take your car, OC has nothing on the books other than California law if they catch you in a speed contest they will impound your car at your expense for 30 days plus a big fine and 2 points on your record. I like stealth, my mustang is white and just blends right in. I think we will see more of this in every county since it looks like a big money maker. Why don't the politicians spend the money they are raking in and use it to build drag racing facilities like they did over 50 years ago.

Kev

08-13-05, 05:56 PM

This thread has grown beyond the intended structure of this forum and should be moved to the CI.

ctsvett

08-13-05, 08:28 PM

agreed...

HotRodSaint

08-13-05, 09:50 PM

"They're like the hot rodders of yesterday who did everything to soup up their cars. It was all about horsepower and bling-bling, lots of chrome and accessories," said Cindy Knight, a Toyota spokeswoman. "Maybe the hot rodders of tomorrow are the people who want to get in there and see what they can do about increasing fuel economy." (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/hybrid_tinkerers;_ylt=Al4XdTEv2Ro3ZGRs4Ui8cO0DW7oF ;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl)

I bet our socialist state leaders will make this illegal too!!

thebigjimsho

08-14-05, 12:58 AM

This thread has grown beyond the intended structure of this forum and should be moved to the CI.Where, once it no longer has the "moved" tag next to it, it shall never be clicked on again. Into Neverland!

Rob_M

08-14-05, 01:17 AM

Yeah it is kind of B.S.!!!! I could think of a lot better things to spend the 5 milly on than crackin down on kids whose hobbie is to have a nice car. I live out here and everything is rediculously expensive, but I still love ARNOLD and dont give a crap what the liberals think....;)

danbuc

08-14-05, 01:27 AM

California Über Alles
HAHAHA...I was gonna mention something about Germany..WWII...and a Fascist Dictatorship but you pretty much summed it all up. This is absolutely rediculous. It's one thing to right someone a ticket for for having their windows virtually blacked out, but to pull someone over just for having a Cold Air intake, and a sticker? Those cops don't actually believe that this kind of stuff make these car's excessively powerful, and therefor dangerous do they? I guess this is the end of the great American past time known as the car show fro people in California. Whats the point of having one, if evryone attenting get there car impounded before they even reach the event? This kind of thing sort of (and I stress that) make me glad I live out here on the east coast. We wouldn't stand for this kind of crap, and I don't think those of you living out in California should either. Just out of curiosity, who passed this law. Was it the Governator? If so, that would be the biggest load of hipocratic bullshit that I've ever seen. Nothing against Ahhnold, but any man who shows up to a meating about polution in a hybrid vehicle, and leaves in a Hummer (apropriately name The Terminator) is a fool. My condolences to those living in the state.

edit: Before I get flamed here, let me jst state this. Arnold is a great guy, and does take his work very seriously. It's hard for someone liek him to get the credit he deserves, especially in a political system such as our own. It's just seems to me that lately some of his choices have been...well lets say a little misguided. Overall, I think he's done a pretty good job for being a political newbie as they say. I just think he could have used a little more experience before taking on such a challenging task. I like him, as an actor and a politician. It's just that some of the things he does don't seem right, but then again, how many politician haven't made a few bad choices. I'm sure this law will eventually fall apart when the cops that have cool cars start getting tickets as well. I'm sure they'r saying the same thing right now, "It's all fun and games, until one of us get's a ticket"...and that will be the end of it.

mcf1000x2003

08-14-05, 01:37 AM

before u know alot of other states will follow in there footsteps to get extra money

danbuc

08-14-05, 01:54 AM

On second thought, let me add this as well. All that money could be put to much better use, by replacing all of the inept officers who obviously can't tell what kind of "driving behavior" constitutes a ticket and must now stereotype vehicles and there owners, with officers that have the ability to spot the a**holes, and leave the rest of the people alone. I see alot of kids around here with "riced out" car's who always signal, and obey traffic laws. I also see alot of people in completely stock car's driving with no headlights at night, cutting across three lanes of traffic, and then signaling after they've made the turn. Chances are, that half of the driver's who really deserve ticket are driving car's that haven't been modified at all. I know there's alot of them around here, so why not everywhere else. Choosing a particular type of car is also stupid. They would rather pull the kid in the civic with the noisy muffler and stickers going 60mph, then the dude in the Towncar doing 90mph weaving through traffic, simply because of how they judge the driver of the Civic. Basing their law making decisions on whether or not that car in front of them belongs to the "Barely Legal" club is to me at least...somewhat disturbing. The fact that these police officers must now rely on there keen knowledge of what products are available in this months Summit: Sport Compact catilogue, instead of what's considered (shall we say) reckless endangerment is a truly sad and pathetic state of affairs (no pun intended). Perhaps one day they will learn that it's not the car that makes the driver, it's the driver that makes the car.

airbalancer

08-14-05, 09:03 AM

Why go after the guy who fixs up his car, they should pull the sh*t boxes off the road
You all seen the cars on Pimp my Ride. How can those cars be on the road!!!!!!!!!

Rolex

08-14-05, 09:36 AM

San Diego officers come to train other departments how to look out for what they believe to be tell-tale signs of illegal modification such as window tinting, large spoilers, extra gauges or racing stickers

Extra guages and stickers? WTF? Over. I don't care for ricers much but DAMN, can we prioritize and fight some real crime?

In practice, "excessive exaust noise" tickets are the most common violation. California law does not require police to measure sound levels objectively. Instead, according to the California Highway Patrol, the "citation is based on officer's judgment."

Once again the recipe for disaster is as follows: take a complete moron with a HS diploma, and is on a serious power trip; give him minimal training, issue him a gun and a badge and allow him to use his "judgement."We all know police officers are never wrong. http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_thinking.gif I don't mean to be so hard on cops but this is complete http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/anim_bs2.gif.

Welcome to sunny Commiefornia. Surrender all your firearms and remove all guages and stickers from your car. http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_nosmile.gif