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I don't know why Emery didn't trade back in the 1st round....I would of traded back to pick #34......Kyle Long Still would of been available still and could of picked up an extra 3rd and 4th round pick. Then our draft could of looked like this....

I don't know why Emery didn't trade back in the 1st round....I would of traded back to pick #34......Kyle Long Still would of been available still and could of picked up an extra 3rd and 4th round pick. Then our draft could of looked like this....

The answer is pretty easily that the Bears didn't think Long would be there at 34. Word is the Cowboys traded down to 31 because they were targeting Long and thought they could get him there._________________

I am surprised how many people are just ignoring the OL in their re-mocks.

How quickly we fall into Jerry Angelo habits.

We need the OL fixed and this is how you do it.

I wouldn't say ignoring, some of us just aren't sold that Long is a first round talent. Angelo in his last 5-6 years drafted around 8 OL, they just didn't pan out. 2 were first round picks too. We reached with Williams and Carimi, and if Long doesn't become a damn solid player, it would be easy to say this was an Angelo-like pick.

I'm not condemning the pick, but I'm not going to praise it like he is a sure-fire All Pro either. Really the only thing that makes this seem like a much better option is the fact that we have Kromer, who has a hell of a track record with developing lineman and helping protect the QB._________________2013 Kyle Long Rookie of the Year Award

I am surprised how many people are just ignoring the OL in their re-mocks.

How quickly we fall into Jerry Angelo habits.

We need the OL fixed and this is how you do it.

I wouldn't say ignoring, some of us just aren't sold that Long is a first round talent. Angelo in his last 5-6 years drafted around 8 OL, they just didn't pan out. 2 were first round picks too. We reached with Williams and Carimi, and if Long doesn't become a damn solid player, it would be easy to say this was an Angelo-like pick.

I'm not condemning the pick, but I'm not going to praise it like he is a sure-fire All Pro either. Really the only thing that makes this seem like a much better option is the fact that we have Kromer, who has a hell of a track record with developing lineman and helping protect the QB.

Sorry it doesn't work like this. Neither Williams nor Carimi were reaches. They simply didn't work out. Go look at grades from 2008, I doubt any question the Chris Williams pick, let alone thinking he's not a 1st rounder. Carimi...I don't know a Bears fan who wasn't getting nervous around pick 15 as to whether or not he'd be there. Both sure-fire 1st rounders, saying they weren't now is just distorting the facts.

I am surprised how many people are just ignoring the OL in their re-mocks.

How quickly we fall into Jerry Angelo habits.

We need the OL fixed and this is how you do it.

I wouldn't say ignoring, some of us just aren't sold that Long is a first round talent. Angelo in his last 5-6 years drafted around 8 OL, they just didn't pan out. 2 were first round picks too. We reached with Williams and Carimi, and if Long doesn't become a damn solid player, it would be easy to say this was an Angelo-like pick.

I'm not condemning the pick, but I'm not going to praise it like he is a sure-fire All Pro either. Really the only thing that makes this seem like a much better option is the fact that we have Kromer, who has a hell of a track record with developing lineman and helping protect the QB.

A "reach" is in the eye of the beholder, but most mock drafts at the time had Carimi and Williams respectively going in the 1st round. I don't remember hearing any draft expert saying that those picks were reaches (not that it really matters).

Angelo seemed to draft more on college production, while Emery seems to like to draft for measurables and potential. Carimi and Long are very different prospects that illustrate the difference between their draft philosophies.

I am surprised how many people are just ignoring the OL in their re-mocks.

How quickly we fall into Jerry Angelo habits.

We need the OL fixed and this is how you do it.

I wouldn't say ignoring, some of us just aren't sold that Long is a first round talent. Angelo in his last 5-6 years drafted around 8 OL, they just didn't pan out. 2 were first round picks too. We reached with Williams and Carimi, and if Long doesn't become a damn solid player, it would be easy to say this was an Angelo-like pick.

I'm not condemning the pick, but I'm not going to praise it like he is a sure-fire All Pro either. Really the only thing that makes this seem like a much better option is the fact that we have Kromer, who has a hell of a track record with developing lineman and helping protect the QB.

Sorry it doesn't work like this. Neither Williams nor Carimi were reaches. They simply didn't work out. Go look at grades from 2008, I doubt any question the Chris Williams pick, let alone thinking he's not a 1st rounder. Carimi...I don't know a Bears fan who wasn't getting nervous around pick 15 as to whether or not he'd be there. Both sure-fire 1st rounders, saying they weren't now is just distorting the facts.

I can agree on Carimi, but I hated the Williams pick. I don't care about how people compared him to D'Brickashaw Ferguson or not, he was well known for being a "finesse" lineman, meaning to me that he was not strong or aggressive, two things that are a terrible combination in a lineman. He was known to struggle with agile defenders, which makes it almost incomprehensible to think that he could handle pros who are bigger, stronger, faster, and more technically sound, when let's face it, the agility for a lineman has a limited ceiling compared to most of the DEs/OLBs they will face. So he was too weak to play inside and couldn't keep up with speedy players, so where was he suppose to thrive? So his "finesse" style was a liability. I preferred Otah was my #1 for that draft (ignoring Long for obvious reasons) and didn't look at Williams as a first rounder.

Carimi was known for sloppy footwork, but having the strength to make up for it. With coaching I thought he would learn to be more consistent there. I don't know if he was completely unable to do his drops after his injury, if his coaching was just terrible, or he was just lazy (still don't believe the last one) but he was obviously not as strong at the point of contact last year. That is understandable, but if the injury has him hindered to the point he was too slow to even have his feet under him in the kick technique they should have just shut him down. If the injury robbed him of the strength and speed to be effective, by all means I can't fault the man. I still hope he comes back solid and plays for the next several years for us._________________2013 Kyle Long Rookie of the Year Award