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Rays are not in a position where they have to unload him, especially considering they expect to compete in 2013 in the AL East and he is their 'second ace' as they call him.

They have little reason to actually trade him, and I personally don't think he gets moved (more than likely next off-season if at all). He will cost you someone like Lee if you really want him. Not saying you can't get a pitcher of Shields caliber elsewhere, but you won't be getting him from the Rays without giving up someone like Lee.

I personally think you guys are planning to keep Lee no matter what at this point, and that's probably a good idea.

Dodgers #1 target James shield

That list looks decent. I can see us going after Loshe for a 3-4 year deal. I think Kuroda is going to be hard to pry away from the Yankees though. I'll say it again, we should go after Haren now! Trade for him and pick up his option or via free agency, either way. Far better choices than Shields.

Trade or sign Shields, Greinke, Kuroda, Haren....Lohse... They are all good pitchers and would help any team.
But let's be serious, at best, we are going to sign 1, O.N.E pitcher. With Kershaw, Beckett, Capuano, harang being healthy and under contract. Billingsey recent news being optimistic. Lilly, a question mark, any addition will give us 7 SPs. But I agree, we need one improvement/insurrance. But 2 ore more is totally stupid

This was more to my point - lets not give up what prospects we have left for a 31 year that may or may not be great when he gets here.

For shields ...it's a toss up (to me)...
For King Felix...I'd give up Dee, Lee, Fed ex and some $$$...

Yea, too many question marks with Shields. I was thinking Felix when i heard about us dangling Ethier. Ethier would be a good fit in Seatle - hes in his prime and would provide them with some veteran leadership and we can get what we need in return.

Trade or sign Shields, Greinke, Kuroda, Haren....Lohse... They are all good pitchers and would help any team.
But let's be serious, at best, we are going to sign 1, O.N.E pitcher. With Kershaw, Beckett, Capuano, harang being healthy and under contract. Billingsey recent news being optimistic. Lilly, a question mark, any addition will give us 7 SPs. But I agree, we need one improvement/insurrance. But 2 ore more is totally stupid

Cap and Harang are not great pitchers, at all. Yes, both are under contract but that does not mean we can't trade them if we are able to get betttter replacements. Remember, the only reason we got those two is because they were a cheaper alternative to signing Kuroda - not because they were better. So we absolutely should trade one or both if can. Cap clearly overachieved in the first half of the season and Harang is a .500 pitcher at best. They are #4,5 pitchers..

Bills and Lilly are question marks a we will not know until the season starts ad even then we are unsure of how stable Bills' arm will hold up.

That said, it is NOT stupid to consider going after 2 pitchers of great quality (Grienke, Haren, Loshe, etc)

As of today our staff is :

Kershaw
Beckett
Cap
Harang

Maybe - bills and Lilly.

We NEED to plan for the worst case scenario. Not stupid - very smart !!!

Trade or sign Shields, Greinke, Kuroda, Haren....Lohse... They are all good pitchers and would help any team.
But let's be serious, at best, we are going to sign 1, O.N.E pitcher. With Kershaw, Beckett, Capuano, harang being healthy and under contract. Billingsey recent news being optimistic. Lilly, a question mark, any addition will give us 7 SPs. But I agree, we need one improvement/insurrance. But 2 ore more is totally stupid

Cap and Harang are not great pitchers, at all. Yes, both are under contract but that does not mean we can't trade them if we are able to get betttter replacements. Remember, the only reason we got those two is because they were a cheaper alternative to signing Kuroda - not because they were better. So we absolutely should trade one or both if can. Cap clearly overachieved in the first half of the season and Harang is a .500 pitcher at best. They are #4,5 pitchers..

Bills and Lilly are question marks a we will not know until the season starts ad even then we are unsure of how stable Bills' arm will hold up.

That said, it is NOT stupid to consider going after 2 pitchers of great quality (Grienke, Haren, Loshe, etc)

As of today our staff is :

Kershaw
Beckett
Cap
Harang

Maybe - bills and Lilly.

We NEED to plan for the worst case scenario. Not stupid - very smart !!!

"There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.”

Rays are not in a position where they have to unload him, especially considering they expect to compete in 2013 in the AL East and he is their 'second ace' as they call him.

They have little reason to actually trade him, and I personally don't think he gets moved (more than likely next off-season if at all). He will cost you someone like Lee if you really want him. Not saying you can't get a pitcher of Shields caliber elsewhere, but you won't be getting him from the Rays without giving up someone like Lee.

I personally think you guys are planning to keep Lee no matter what at this point, and that's probably a good idea.