“Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness?” – 2 Corinthians 6:14

“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. ” Matthew 7:15

T.D. Jakes – Prosperity Gospel Preacher Goes New Age

Prosperity Gospel Preacher T.D. Jakes has now officially yoked himself with the New Age Movement as he has joined Oprah Winfrey’s roster of New Age mystics and gurus for her “Lifeclass Series.” Jakes, who is famous for saying “Jesus is the product” when referring to his multi-million dollar media empire which includes books, movies and his Potter’s House Prosperity Gospel church, is now selling his wares to Oprah Winfrey’s mega-audience of devoted followers. And in Jakes’ preaching on “Purpose” and how to find it, there is no mention of the name of Jesus Christ.Oprah: New Age High Priestess

Oprah’s Lifeclass is teaching another gospel.

Oprah Winfrey has been called “America’s pastor.” She is one of the most powerful and influential people on the planet. And to many she is perceived as a voice of Christianity. But the spirituality she promotes is New Age. The New Age Movement (the spiritual branch of the Illuminati) is premised on 3 basic ideas: 1) God is in everything 2) You have a divine spark in you which through various methods and rituals can be accessed and utilized and 3) once utilized, you have the ability to become a god. Oprah is one of the biggest promoters of New Age doctrine. Here is Oprah denying the Bible’s teaching that salvation only comes in Jesus Christ: The belief in Jesus Christ is the basic principle of Christianity. However, Oprah is not a Bible-believing Christian. She has created a Jesus that suits her own personal tastes. In fact from her own statement, one does not have to believe in Jesus or God to go to Heaven. They can just believe in “The Light.” Here she is outlining New Age Doctrine once again through her prior series of online classes: The term “Christ Consciousness” is a New Age term that does not refer to worshiping Jesus Christ, it refers to being godlike and the idea that people can access God from within themselves and do not need the teachings of the Bible. Luciferian New Age leaders like Benjamin Creme and Alice Bailey reference the Christ Consciousness in their teachings as what resides in certain special “ascended masters” who will help lead us to the New World Order. This is all the same deception from the Garden of Eden that Satan used with Eve:

Now the serpent was more [subtle] than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. — Genesis 3:1-6

The promise of godhood has been one of Satan’s main seductions from the beginning of civilization. And since sin has rendered the inner nature of humanity in rebellion against God, the lure of doing away with religion and creating one’s own path to divinity or heaven is extremely tempting. If you are god, then your sin no longer matters. Your eternal fate is no longer at risk because you make up the rules and play judge. This is why the increasingly popular “all religions lead to Heaven” philosophy grown so quickly in society. And it is just what Satan wants for all people because it will ensure that they will go to hell.

Oprah also promotes Marianne Williamson and her book, A Course in Miracles. Williamson (who at one time had a show on Oprah’s radio network) writes the following in her book:

“There is no sin. . . ” pg. 9 • A “slain Christ has no meaning.” pg. 10 • “The journey to the cross should be the last ‘useless journey.’ ” pg. 11 • “Do not make the pathetic error of ‘clinging to the old rugged cross.’” pg. 12 • “The Name of Jesus Christ as such is but a symbol… It is a symbol that is safely used as a replacement for the many names of all the gods to which you pray.” pg. 13 • “God is in everything I see.”14 • “The recognition of God is the recognition of yourself.” pg. 15 • “The oneness of the Creator and the creation is your wholeness, your sanity and your limitless power.” pg. 16 • “The Atonement is the final lesson he [man] need learn, for it teaches him that, never having sinned, he has no need of salvation.” pg. 17 (source).

This again has nothing to do with the Bible. Williamson also claims the book was written via channeling ‘spirit guides’ a practice that is forbidden in the Bible. Oprah has also stated that she channels spirits and even knows them by name. Her show was the chief promoter of the best-selling book The Secret, a book that focused on New Age style witchcraft as the key to obtaining all sorts of material wealth and personal success. It popularized, “The Law of Attraction”, an occult technique that involves visualizing a certain goal, constantly focusing and doing certain practices as if it has already happened and then “attracting” it by your constant thoughts and focus. Its author, Rhonda Byrne writes: “All good things are your birthright! You are the creator of you, and the law of attraction is your magnificent tool to create whatever you want in you life. Welcome to the magic of life, and the magnificence of You!” (p. 41)

Of course the Bible says of Jesus Christ: “All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.” (John 1:3). The Secret reveals its true message later on in the book:

“You are God in a physical body. You are Spirit in the flesh. You are Eternal Life expressing itself as you.” (p. 164)

This underscores the message of The Secret and the New Age: that a person can become God. This is of course complete contradictory to the Bible and is following the deception of Satan.

T.D. Jakes Joins in The Heresy

T.D. Jakes has received the Illuminati’s stamp of approval.

Now given that Oprah has been so involved with the New Age, one would wonder why T.D. Jakes would be doing a “Life Class” with her to begin with? The Bible teaches Christians not to be yoked with unbelievers in spiritual endeavors. And it specifically instructs pastors:

“I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;” — 2 Timothy 4:1-5

A Pastor’s duty first and foremost is to preach the Gospel, whether it is “in season” or in an area where it is not welcome. At a minimum, Jakes should make sure the audience knows his Christian beliefs are different from Oprah’s. But once hearing him present his lessons, it becomes obvious. Jakes does not preach the Gospel or mention Jesus Christ with Oprah at all.

Jakes teaching on purpose in life:

Notice there is no mention of Jesus, sin or the fact that unbelievers are going to hell. Jakes is focused on “passion” as the source of finding purpose in life. The Bible teaches that our purpose as humans is to have a relationship with God eternally in Heaven. And that comes through Jesus Christ. So what is Jakes really talking about? He is focused on human-centered purpose which is just following one’s own personal desires and dreams with no regard for God or one’s sin. How can any true Christian preacher, teach on having purpose without God? The only scripture Jakes barely references was the Apostle Peter walking on water for a few seconds after Jesus empowered him. Jakes uses the reference to encourage listeners to follow their own passions. Peter was able to step on water because he was following Jesus. It was only when Peter looked down and let his heart take over that he sank. And that is what the false prophet Jakes is teaching. And he even states: “this is the good news!” No, it is not. It is a false gospel.

The Book of Ecclesiastes is almost a Biblical version of a “Life Class.” King Solomon, the wisest man on Earth, had it all. Immense wealth, a Kingdom of people who loved him, peace from wars and battles and hundreds of wives and mistresses. He pursued every vice, pleasure and lust that was in his heart. And yet he found it all was meaningless. He saw that in all the plans and aspirations people have, that life is just an endless cycle. A person works, obtains wealth, to then work more and obtain more wealth, only to grow old, die and be forgotten. Kings who built monuments a thousand years ago, are no longer remembered. Life in itself, is an utterly pointless cycle. Why? Because we are all going to die. Our time on Earth is brief. Without a relationship with God, who is eternal, who is infinite, who is outside of time, who is Spirit, we are just living out the same pattern of generations past. But Solomon finally learned that having eternal life and a loving relationship with God, truly makes life worth living. The wisest man finished his book writing:

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man

For a Christian, purpose is only found in God. Yet Jakes leaves God out of the equation.Here is Bishop Jakes answering a woman in the crowd who says she is suffering from a lack of faith: The young woman says she was was raised to have faith but is struggling. This is a very legitimate problem. And Jakes’ advice is to “take baby steps?” What about praying to God or reading Scripture? The Bible says: “So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. “ (Romans 10:17). Jakes tells the woman to conquer her fears on her own. The Bible says Jesus Christ fights the battles for you. T.D. Jakes is preaching heresy, denying Jesus Christ and proving to be a false prophet. The people in Oprah’s Lifeclass are dealing with serious challenges and problems. There is nothing wrong with seeking a way to stop abuse, get out of financial problems, repair a marriage or reconcile with your children. We all face problems and Jesus teaches us that God cares about us and wants to address them:

Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. (Matthew 6:25-33)

Our blessings in life come by seeking God and His righteousness, which comes through faith in Jesus. The Christian life is not about “doing your own thing.” It is about letting your ego go and living life the way God has instructed. When John the Baptist started his ministry, proclaiming that the Messiah had arrived in Israel and baptizing hundreds, he saw some of his followers leaving him to go follow Jesus. Some of the people around John questioned him, to see how he felt about losing some of his followers and John replied:

He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom’s voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled. 30He must increase, but I must decrease. He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.” (John 3:29-31).

John the Baptist recognized that he was not the “Groom at the wedding”, he was just a supporting cast member. Jesus is the star of a Christian’s life. So John rejoiced at seeing people going to Jesus. He recognized that he needed to decrease his ego and his “purpose” so that God could be glorified. The New Age promotes the idea that each individual is their own god and center of the universe so everything in this world should be theirs. And Jakes is falling right in line with that with this unbiblical advice. He is willing to sacrifice the Gospel and real Christian teaching to be a part of Oprah’s New Age classes and of course, have access to her millions of devoted followers (through the class, Oprah made several mentions of Jakes’ recently released book).

T.D. Jakes teaching on finding direction in life: Again, no mention of God, Jesus Christ or the Gospel. He says that whatever fits your life, “if it brings you gratification, if it brings you fulfillment, if it seems to fits into the complexity of your life” then that is your purpose. So like New Age doctrine, Jakes is preaching that a person should just follow their hearts and live their life that way. What if a person is gratified in being a Buddhist and never believing in Jesus Christ? What if someone finds fulfillment in dating a married woman and all the “complexities” that come with adultery? Again this is heresy being taught by a false teacher. The bible says since our nature is sinful and in rebellion against God, we should not trust our hearts: ” The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” (Jeremiah 17:9). Until we have a right spirit in us, our own desires will lead us in a life where we try to achieve our own dreams and desires without God. And that is deception because it will never lead to fulfillment and it will never lead to eternal life. But yet Jakes continues to teach this New Age philosophy which offers many paths to Heaven and many roads to truth. However, that is not what Jesus Christ taught:

” Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” – John 14:6

Please leave your seat for Oprah’s Lifeclass empty.

Pray for Jakes to return to the Bible and its truths. There are many people in the world today who are hurting. Many people who are truly and genuinely seeking purpose in life. And if you are a Christian, you know the answer. It is in having peace with God and getting to know Him and His love. And His greatest demonstration of that was by sending His Son, Jesus Christ, to die for us. Jesus was willing to suffer so we would no longer have to. There is a true connection with the Divine. There is a way to receive God’s Spirit. There is a way to have true joy in life today. But it starts worshiping the true God and believing in Jesus – not worshiping yourself, releasing a “divine spark” or thinking you are the Creator of the universe. Jesus Christ said: ” I am come that [humanity] might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.” It’s likely that many of the people taking Oprah’s Life class were the same people taking the last one in 2008. But they are still not fulfilled. Like junk food, the New Age can dazzle and amaze for a season, but always requires a new twist, method or ritual to keep searching for peace. Because as long as sin is an obstacle in between you and God there will be no peace. Even billionaire moguls like Oprah have to keep churning out new ways of trying to find it. Yet Jesus showed the true source: ” Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid” (John 14:27. The peace that comes from Jesus Christ allows a Christian to know, no matter what pain or trial they are facing, God is with them and they are eternally secure. That is true peace. And this is why God’s message has not changed: He will provide a way to make peace for us. Share The Gospel. Give people the real truth and let The Lord change lives, eternally.

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Every time I see a celebrity such as Oprah having all the wealth and fame on this earth, I always think, they’re having theirs now, I”ll have mine later, and for all eternity. Kinda feel sorry for them. They always think they have all the answers.

Actually many Christian churches are teaching a Prosperity message and selling the blessings of God for seeds (money) for a promised harvest. I may not care for Oprah but at least she is not selling the free Gospel for money because she has money she got from her Talk Show and never put a price tag on Jesus or his free grace.

Oprah might not be selling herself but she is leading other who do not believe in God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit into damnation. In a sense she has place a price tag because she is not acknowledging Jesus for her success; God will use anybody to Bless others.

you cannot say that Oprah is not selling herself! she has! you cannot lead people to where you have not been. but i am comforted because i know my citizenship is not of the world. The world is ruled by the wicked but a time is coming when they will be held accountable for every small thing they have said or done, for every soul they misled. We shall all answer to the God of gods whether we believe him or not.

The bigger problem is the sell out preachers who join in their unequally yoke of a union with Oprah who has made a public statement that all roads lead to God and passes herself off as a follower of Christ. She calls Jesus a liar when she said all roads lead to God and she took God out of the box cause Jesus himself said he is the way to God not a way but THE WAY.

Shame on Jakes and his dumb sheep who let him get away with anything without accountability. When he had that Seminar with Oprah’s audience he took Jesus out of the equation and said God a couple of times but it was mostly a secular motivational seminar. Shame on him selling out against Jesus like that.

Selling out is a very mild word term for it. How about apostasy or blaspheming the Holy Spirit.He MAY be on the road from where there is no return or forgiveness.There is no forgiveness for blaspheming the holy spirit.

She is not acknowledging Jesus for her success, because He is not the source for her success. Satan grants many “gifts” and blessings to those bowing down to him. He tried to get Jesus to do the same thing by showing him the kingdoms of this world, offering him the riches is Jesus would worship him. These people, Oprah, Jakes, Osteen, and many others have chosen to bow to satan. They are at enmity with God.

It all has to do with how you interpret the Bible I grew up in old school Bible teaching because that’s how it was taught to my mother from her mother,I was taught to suffer on this earth because when I die I would inherit streets paved in gold and would be able to talk to and pet lions and tigers and on and on,that’s what the slave masters told the salves. Yet as we were being taught this rich people who also believed in Jesus were having their streets paved in gold on this earth ,are you saying they all are going to hell. I agree you put God first but if your saying God wants us to suffer even though Jesus came and died so we may life more abundantly I have to disagree. Religion has put a limit on God and what he wants for us but I say God is limitless. That’s why their is the old and new statement cause God is always moving forward.

To the belief that Jesus suffered for man is but to “Equate” with Him by His words( for this is no magic) “Pick up your crosses & follow me”. For the followers of Christ were first called as Christians in Antioch & the many proved it by picking up their crosses to follow Him & thus Christianity was founded, by the faith that was once delivered unto the Saints. To the Prosperity gospels it seems these are changed as if Christ has changed(God does not change) , is but to know it is they who have changed to another Gospel, by their priorities turning His words around “To seek first the things of the world as if His kingdom will be added on” becomes to another gospel in these days of Apostasy to the falling away into ‘Convenient ‘ christs.

Jesus gave the command, “Take up your cross and follow me.” Many Christians don’t understand the purpose of our personal crosses. Yes, we are to seek first the kingdom of heaven, and his righteousness, and all these things (eternal blessings and temporal) will be added (given) unto you. Abraham, Kings David and Solomon and others were wealthy believers in God. Yet, they had their trials and tribulations to go through. Wealth nor poverty alone are accurate indicators of one’s spiritual walk with God. God highly favors us with trials, not just material blessings. We are rewarded according to our faith, according to the cleanliness of our hands, and the thoughts of our hearts by The Lord. Poverty vows are not necessary to God. Neither does confessions of blessing (word of faith) mean a thing to him without the word, the water and the blood being applied to the heart.

There is no good thing in our flesh, and to keep us meek God allows troubles to sharpen our spiritual acuity. We all must suffer tribulation in this world as followers of Jesus. Our cross that we must take up are not the situations that we get ourselves into, because of our sin, that if and when we turn to God he brings us out of. Our cross are the situations God places us in to try our faith; and there are many appointed trials throughout our walk with him. It is our wilderness wherein we must go in order to grow in the grace and wisdom of God. Jesus, Moses, Abraham, David, the Apostles, the Prophets all had their wilderness of testing, that they may see God as he is and not as they wished; that He may become their sufficiency instead of their being self-sufficient. Thus, God receives the glory due to his name. Everyone who comes to God is going to chastised, purged by him as a loving Father would do for his child.

Glory( Matthew) The Meek Shall Inherit the Earth. But Your are talking about an man that needs the spirit of an TRUE and LIVING GOD. This message is to those who is speaking guile. and you are notPRAYING I learn that the tougue is full of deadly poisons and can speak LIFE and DEATH. He answer to God will not man’s. People are not questioning why there is so much killing in the land of the free. I pray that these Pastors repentant and allow God to do what HE promise’s to SAVE the Lost and backslider’s murder’s fornicator’s etc. Go back to find God like HE created Man and Woman to many false lovers in this world.Where is my Father in heaven preparing an better place that we can dwell. If you can not LOVE the MAN that GOD has Chosen. How can you let the devil steal your life that predestin to live forever in Paradise. Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not to thy own understanding but in all thy ways acknowledge him HE will direct your pathway. The Pathway is thru JESUS CHRIST, READ THE BOOK OF PROVERBS. Those who worship the devil is blind, confused, lost but We do have an redeemer again JESUS PRAY for the Lost Souls to be FIND IN CHRIST JESUS. GOD BLESS THE READERS.

these people are crazy and we know it .they worship the devil that’s all there is to it.They try to make us jealous with their wealth just read 1st Timothy ch 6 and you won’t even care .I never heard a message on that chapter.

2 Thessalonians2…10and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. 11For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, 12in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.

I believe that it is necessary for a believer to point others to Christ as the source of peace, joy and eternal life. Only God can give purpose to anyone’s life. No other doctrine I have found can fulfill this.

However, maybe I need to watch the shows that TD Jakes was in to have the full picture of what he was saying. However, I am not fully convinved that Bishp Jakes is leaving Christ. I believe he is using tact to reach the world. Probably he should have pointed the lady to Christ to help her with her faith issues. That in deed is true. I also believe that sometimes faith problems happen because one may not have an accountability partner or may be comparing him or herself to other believers in the Church who seem to know it all. It is here that one will need to ask God to help him or her appreciate the baby steps he or she has taken and that He may offer him or her strength to face life as a believer.

Of course every Christian needs to stand up for his or her faith when confronted. However, I sometimes wonder how one can relate with unbelievers who do not know GOD and are the least interested in Him (It is here that a believer should ask God to show him or her how he or she can introduce God into the person’s life) In stead they have issues that they are facing and faith matters are least important in their lives. I believe that God can offer a believer tact to relate with unbelievers. We cannot sideline ourselves as Christians from non-believers. What we need is wisdom to relate with them and win them to Christ.

I also believe that Christians should be the source of transformation in society. How does one explain the concept of a good God when all around is evil, our societies are degraded. What we need to do even as we preach CHrsit is involve ourselves in activities that can enable our societies to change, for example, coming up w ith ideas that can lessen crime in the community, communicating these ideas with others and findign ways of implementing them. We could also try and commend anything positive that is aired in media or in society whether Christian or secular. We could in stead of shying off from the so called “secular” organisations or systems, work in them and ask God to help us be the difference, just like Daniel and Joseph. When we stand out as believers in other matters of life, the world will be interested in us. They will want to know what our source is. This way, it will be easy to be heard. We shall proclaim our faith much easier and win the world to Christ.

I do not see anything wrong with Oprah liking T.D. Jakes’ writings. She must have seen something positive in them. It is up to any believer to be at his or her best, be it in how he or she conducts him/herself, contribution of the best ideas, and how he/she relates with others in all places. I also do not believe that the fact that an individual does not mention God in every statement makes him or her a traitor of God.

Above all, what I may ask is for God to give every believer wisdom to handle every situation as things can be tricky, that is, to stand up for Him and at the same time, to reveal God to the world in their lives.

Thank you so much for your very insightful comments. It is much appreciated. I will just make a few brief remarks.

1) It is entirely appropriate for a Pastor to attend a seminar on economics or building a community center, and offer secular solutions to the issue. Or if a Pastor is invited to play in a baseball game, they can well, play baseball without sharing the Gospel on the field. However, this Lifeclass is a spiritual event. The questions being posed to T.D. Jakes are “what is the purpose of my life?” and “how can I help improve my faith?” As a Pastor or for any born again Christian, there should be no “non-Christian response.” Because there is no purpose and no faith absent God and The Lord Jesus Christ. So while I think you make a good point, I don’t think it applies here because Jakes was as at a spiritual event, and was speaking as someone who is supposed to be an expert in spiritual matters.

2) Appealing to the world — As for how we should approach non-believers, I don’t think it takes much strategy. Romans 1:16 says “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; ” The Word of God contains the power, not us. We are just messengers. We just need faith and to be faithful to share the Gospel with those we can and let God do the rest. We do not need special catchy methods or effects to lure people to the Gospel. Furthermore, look at the videos in the article. Jakes had the full attention of the audience. They were hanging on his every word and some were taking notes. Clearly, getting people interested in what he has to say is not his problem. His only problem was failing to give them the right answer.

Finally, please note I did not call Jakes a “traitor.” The purpose of this article is not to do this. It is to warn people. Oprah Winfrey is an incredibly influential person and teaches a very dangerous religion. She has gone out of her way in her Lifeclasses and shows to promote New Age doctrine. By Jakes coming on her show and not even making this distinction, he is giving her an endorsement. And Jakes is a major pastor in the church today. This is very disconcerting and was the purpose behind the story. Thank you again for your comments and I look forward to hearing your thoughts. God bless.

I thank God for Dr. Charles F. Stanley, InTouch Ministries, for his TRUE teaching in the Word of God! Won’t find him on O’s Life Class, as he brings the truth of God’s Word to light and conviction in the Holy Spirit!

Thankfully something in my spirit has never allowed me to be drawn to T.D. Jakes and his teachings. I purchased his book ‘Woman Thou Art Loosed’ several years ago and could only get through a few chapters, as something didn’t sit well with me about a man being able to write a book on the topic of abuse and molestation of women.

ethnic butee, PLEASE say some earnest prayers for Dr. Stanley, as apparently I’ve read where he’s recently into something called, “Celtic Spirituality” (article attached)?? I’m so hoping and praying this is NOT correct, although I’ve heard and seen his son, and can’t seem to wrap my mind around what he’s talking about. ALL of these people NEED Much prayer (especially ministers like Jakes, who should be saying, “thus saith the Lord” when posed with these sorts of questions, as it’s NOT about my opinion but the Lord’s Word).

I so agree with you. I bought the book woman thou art loosed. I had challenges. There is nothing in that book to loose a woman. He is a man and he did not even get near the heart of the matter as far as what is ailing women. It is complex and not something a man could understand. He only pointed out the problems but there was no real solutions at all. I went to his church and nothing was said to set me free. I just got encouraged. But i am not sure what i was being encouraged to do …… He leaves out so much that would help women. Mainly, he does not mention emotions being processed or many things like codependency, narcissism, etc etc. Long story short women need to hear psychological principles to walk out of dysfunction before they can even begin to be loosed. Bible scripture alone will not set a woman free. Understanding must take place or new information precedes change. Long story short, Jakes is not a woman and he can not address how to be loosed. He must understand women deeply and profoundly to speak to what ails us and how to recover. I don’t think many men can do it. God is our help! God is leading me to be loosed and I am amazed at what is being revealed.

His “loosed” is more to Obama’s free contraceptives. To understand this better one has to go back to Genesis where the serpent deceived the woman, to which God put the Enmity between the woman & the serpent & to their seeds, it should be noted that it was the woman who was found in the transgression & not the man, which is to mean that satan has his grip on womankind, he uses to get at the man, for if he does that then it is the end of Mankind, out of salvation, which is one of the reasons that a woman shall not preach nor unsurp authority, to the Spiritual, for by his grip will twist it around to Apostasy however well intended, to know the many churches falling away today from the apostolic Faith through woman leaderships into gay agendas etc. However the woman keeps the “Enmity” & if the Bible is understood it is not she who bruises the serpents head but her seed by the Enmity that was put by God to Rev. Ch. 12 The Seed born as the Lamb, & to the remnant seed of her to the Elect of God , who care not for their own lives. but keep the commandments of God & have the testimony of Jesus, for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of Prophecy, the first fruits of the lamb, the lamb itself being the first, to further understand the Elect , the i,44, 000, from the 12 tribes of Spiritual Israel, redeemed among men , who have not been defiled by women. These are the seeds of the Woman with Christ as their head, through her enmity , that enmity put by God, make war against the serpent & his spiritual seeds, to the salvation , the purpose of this life,. To this be not deceived by false “loosings”, but to the Scriptural understandings. As for the clear manifestations of the woman & the serpent in the “Enmity” to the day, is but another topic.

Dr Charles Stanley is a truly distinctive man of GOD, full of wisdom, insight, depth and irrefutable reach. His Scriptural counsel holds a very solid place at the core of my heart. We bless GOD for this enviable Ambassador of the mystery of GOD’S Kingdom. May we not fervently/zealously preach The Immutable Gospel Of GOD to our world only to get disqualified for the Everlasting Crown due to carnal/ vain errors/ misgiings. Amen in The Precious Name Of JESUS CHRIST.

Can you imagine Billy Graham bowing to Oprah for the almighty dollar like Jakes? I never got into Jakes either….could not even read the 1st chapter of his book! Charles is a Bible scholar much like Graham. Jakes is a “flavor of the month”.

Your angle for writing to story was good from my perspective. I will however say what you have not said in calling Jakes a traitor. I say it not to be mean spirited; I would that he would repent and do his first works over. Am I being judgmental? No, and neither are you. We are inspecting the fruit of those who say they are of the household of faith, and leaving the judging of the world to God. My basis for being direct in saying Jakes and many others are betrayers of the gospel of a Jesus Christ is that they: don’t hold to the doctrine of Jesus Christ, and scriptures caution that any man that keeps not these saying of Jesus are none of his children; “friendship with the world is at enmity with God”; and “There is no other name given among men whereby we must be saved”; furthermore there is only one mediator between God and men, the man Jesus Christ”. Jakes, has made friendship with the world to be accommodated by the world. He is yoked to an unbeliever. Jesus never compromised the word of the Father to be received by the world while he daily interacted with sinners. When we lift Jesus up, he draws men unto himself; we shouldn’t be going out of our way to avoid mentioning his word, which he has magnified above his name, nor should we neglect to speak his name amongst anyone as a matter of avoid offending them. Many in Jesus’ time on earth were offended by the gospel; he still gave them truth. By Jakes’ willingness to go along with the program (or shall is programming of people), he is denying The Lord who has once cleansed him; he is depriving the people of the truth just as the Scribes, Pharisees and Sadducees did. They had the keys of knowledge of who Jesus was but denied the people to enter in by faith.

Of course, I know you know this; I’m defending your stance in writing this piece against the naysayers, for I am set in defense of the gospel as you have demonstrated you are in exposing this darkness. God bless you.

I don’t know what show you watched but when I watched his lecture on “Purpose” I did not hear one mention of the name of Jesus. How can you talk about Purpose while excluding Christ as the reason for our purpose? She never gave him a platform to lecture for an hour when she had thru the roof ratings. Now her Own Network is floundering and suddenly wa-la –hear comes Joel Osteen and TD Jakes to the rescue. Jakes totally secularized his lecture yet Guru’s Chopra Deepak was allowed to teach his brand of pagan religion to gullible robotic Oprah fans.

It is hard to trust anybody these days. I was disappointed years ago when I read my entire bible for myself from cover to cover and learned these preachers were misusing Malachi 3:8-10 as if those in Christ can be cursed for not being able to give ten percent. Col. 2:14 Jesus nailed every ordinance against us to the cross.

Galatians 3:13 “Christ has redeemed us from the curse… This pretty much proves they were lying about the Malachi old covenant curse that they used to collect their pay. I can’t trust most of them to have my best interest since they are not above quoting Old Covenant curses to collect their wages. Instead of just saying a worker is worthy of their pay and leave it at that.

I believe this is why we should read for ourselves and understand the theology of the scriptures. Pastors do mislead their congregation; however, a good pastor will tell you read the word for yourself and get understanding. It is a shame there are Pastors who interpret scriptures to fit them, this could be one of the many reason why people are falling into this New Age Doctrine (if that’s what it is). “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth” 2 Timothy 2:15. Knowing this can we blame others for our lack of knowledge?

Jakes in Oprah’s life class did not point to Jesus or even bring it up. He said God a couple of times. It was basically a secular motivational speech. Sorry but Jakes promoted Jakes on that one and in his movies.

Hi to All! When I think of Bishop T.D. Jakes and Pastor Joel Olsteen using this method to bring Ophra and her followers to Christ (if that be the case), I remember how each time the Israelites joined up with the Gentiles the Gentiles won them over to the pagan ways. Also, we must be cautious when playing with a rattlesnake. I feel if you play with one long enough the snake will bite you! Pray much for them and those who believe like them; all the lost. Christ could return at any time!

Blessed is the name of the Most High God, the God and Father of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel

Wonderful article, B&E!!!

I like how you said this here:

“It’s likely that many of the people taking Oprah’s Life class were the same people taking the last one in 2008. But they are still not fulfilled. Like junk food, the New Age can dazzle and amaze for a season, but always requires a new twist, method or ritual to keep searching for peace. Because as long as sin is an obstacle in between you and God there will be no peace. Even billionaire moguls like Oprah have to keep churning out new ways of trying to find it…”

That right there is wonderful insight and wisdom!

I believe I was finished with Oprah the moment she sat in the audience at her show and basically renounced the Lord Jesus Christ by saying that He is not the only way to God the Father. Whatever respect she had from me as a fan of hers, she lost it that day, and since then, I have not looked back at her or her show one time. But we know what the Word of truth says in John 14:6. And you can be assured that Oprah knows it, too, but she cannot go against the Luciferian agenda she signed up to help spread; being able to keep her monetary wealth and riches depend on her being obedient to her “masters”.

Sadly, my father, who is elderly and terminally ill with cancer, is an ardent supporter of the T.D. Jakes Ministry. He acts as if it is the lifeline between himself and salvation. Ironically, he has a Bible sitting on his nightstand, but instead of reading the Word of God for himself, to gain wisdom and knowledge, he’d much rather put his trust and faith in the heretical preachings/teachings of a false (television) prophet. I think that if Bishop Jakes was truly interested in “winning” souls for Christ, he would go to Oprah and implore/encourage her to confess and repent of her sins – not sign up to be a part of her New Age movement. But these are birds of a feather; they will flock together.

A vast majority of these so-called television evangelists do not actually teach the Word of God; they may use a verse from the Bible to start with, but they will quickly venture off into misleading the congregation by twisting the Word to fit their own nefarious purposes and agendas. Pastor Joel Osteen does it quite well – if you’ve ever noticed. They love writing their own books and manuals on how to live a Christian life, but they never exhort their congregations to read the Word of God – which is the true book on righteousness. They love to usurp/replace God’s divine authority and holy wisdom with their own blasphemous ideas and concepts of right living. But the Lord Jesus Christ said in Matthew 15:14: “Let them alone; they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, then they both shall fall into the ditch.” Not only this particular scripture, but the Word of God is up to the brim and overflowing with an abundance of scriptures that specifically rebuke with truth these false prophets/preachers. That’s why they want people to buy and read with they’ve written, instead of directing them to read the divine truth that’s written in the Word of God. God wants us to have His peace, wisdom and knowledge, not man’s, for what does man know? Man can be influenced and led by Lucifer; God cannot be.

Very well said. And thank you very much. Unfortunately, we are in the age of the “Superstar Pastor” and many people will because of a genuine fondness for the preaching, feel a strong allegiance to a particular pastor. But this is why the Bible and knowing it is so important. The Bereans were praised by the Apostle Paul because they did not just take his sermons on face value – they went and studied the Word to make sure what he was preaching lined up with scripture (Acts 17:11).

I pray that your father knows the Gospel and believes on The Lord Jesus Christ for salvation. He may be in some spiritual error, but what matters most is salvation. We are all going to get parts of the Bible wrong and be off in some of our interpretations. But make sure he has the essential belief down and be patient with the rest. God bless.

Wow B&E you have done it again! Wonderful wonderful article. I agree with you 100% and will share this with my family. I knew something was not right with Jake’s joining forces with Oprah. My mother loves jakes and will not hear a bad word about him even if its the truth. All I can do is pray that God will show her that Oprah is not a follower of Christ. And one should not have to sing and dance (so to speak) to win souls for God. The truth is more then sufficient. How would we feel if someone had to trick our kids to come home, play games with them, tell them its their friends house instead of home. I wouldn’t like it so I’m sure that God doesn’t like it when people sugar people just to get them to know Christ. If his glory,grace and mercy is not sweet enough then they will never be satisfied. This is just my opinion and nothing more. Thank you for your article….

First I want to apologize for the typo in my previous comment, i was in a hurry. Ok back to Oprah!! The reason I previously stated she is confused is because on the link that i posted in my comment she is saying she was convicted by the message Bishop Jakes preached (Saving the Scraps). She could have just been saying it, but I was wondering why bother coming to a church where you know their beliefs are completely different than yours. (But everything happens for a reason).She has changed her views so many times throughout the years that it is ridiculous. I think she may try to do the right things but she doesnt know how to effectively go about them because of lack of reading the word. It is made quite obvious in her answers and thoughts throughout the years also. So the issue is the people that are “following” her. Do we, or should I say most Americans, not have enough courage and faith to read the word of God for themselves to know that Oprah is just as confused as the people she tries to reach out to? It could be she has finally found someone that is teaching her the things she needs to know in the word. Maybe she hopped on that to reach out to other people. Who knows? In the life class videos above I didnt notice her saying anything about “New Age” doctrines or teachings as she blatantly did so in the past. (could it be a change of heart or beliefs) Oprah needs some spritual maturity and discernment, and faith. She has had numerous people and inspiration leaders on her show over the years…the wolf in sheep clothing could have been one of those people influencing her for the worse and she may have finally had a change of heart recently. How can we say Bishop Jakes is linking up or joining her in her new age movement? Is everybody around us or that we deal with Christian? I understand for spiritual things we should be unequally yoked, but to reach out to the world today we should use all avenues to try to get people pointed back to the right direction? If they struggle with certain things that they do not comprehend we can not use everyday preaching to reach out to their issues!! Something is better than nothing, maybe the life classes is a head start to a new beginning for people to build up a desire to “dig deeper”. So telling someone to take baby steps in their faith is a good answer considering they may not know what all faith entails anyway. Did we not forget that Jesus himself was often seen with sinners/unbelievers to get the word across to them. He didnt come at them the same way he did the Pharisees and disciples, he started with the basics. Do we have proof that Bishop Jakes has not spoken with Oprah about her “Luciferian” concepts? How do we know that she has not changed her beliefs, which she has done so many times over the years? That was the reason in me saying she is very confused and I would even go out on the limb and say she appears doubleminded. I agree with you B&E on some things as well as You Need Schooling, however we have no proof about some of you alls accusations. We do not know if there is counseling or advice given behind closed doors from Bishop jakes on Oprah’s belief issues. If the comment about praising leaders, pastors etc was targeted towards me, i do not do such things. As stated I read my bible on my own and study things on my own lining everything up with the word. I am 24 so I am not old enough to know so much about Bishop Jakes or Oprah, but I know Oprah stated she was Christian for a long time then all of a sudden one day she decided Jesus wasnt the only way. That is when I stopped watching her show. People do change and by the Grace of God and Jesus as our savior we do have a second chance. I need to seriously pray harder for this nation and its leaders (as well as myself in ministering) so that those who are true seekers of God can be lead the proper way!! All that to say we do not know everything….that is why prayer is such an effective tool and gift we are given.(to pray for the lost souls not to be deceived and the holy spirit to lead them through us) I really appreciate the article and feedback from you all God bless…there are a lot of things for me to consider and look at differently from this Thanks!!!

I was alarmed and near confused when I heard two days ago that TD Jakes “has joined the New Age.” Now I have read your article for which i am grateful. I figure that your two big reasons for raising this alert about the Bishop is that he appeared at all at Oprah.s show and then, he made no reference to Christ. I agree that the man of God must be in all things beyond reproach including where they visit and what matters they involve in! Certainly someone of his stature must strive to behave christocentrically always. I think in the matters you raised, he fell short of the high ground he has with the gospel and its church but I think we should look beyond that event to see if we can find other reasons that will compel us to believe that our brother has left the fold. But then, we should pray instead that we don’t ever find them: because they are not there. Jesus told Peter how the devil had concluded a bid for his’ (Peter’s) life but added that He (Jesus) had prayed for Peter.

“BCNN thanked the likes of Stedman Graham, Tyler Perry, T.D. Jakes and others who wisely encouraged Winfrey and coached her on how to make her public profession of faith in Christ before the world.”

BCNN is the Black Christian News Network.

Sorry, I’m not buying it for a second unless and until she openly repudiates the New Age teachings she’s been vigorously supporting all these years. That would be great; but, I just don’t see that happening.

Sorry, but I don’t buy it for a second. It would be great; but, I don’t see how as she’s not yet openly repudiated the New Age teachings she’s so vigorously promoted all these years.

“BCNN thanked the likes of Stedman Graham, Tyler Perry, T.D. Jakes and others who wisely encouraged Winfrey and coached her on how to make her public profession of faith in Christ before the world.”

Just one more step into the Great Apostasy. Our redemption draweth nigh!

Thanks for the link Craig. I read the story and while she calls herself a Christian, as you point out, she does not address any of real issues regarding all her New Age doctrines and teachings. And if anything, she makes it more clear that her definition of “Christian” has nothing to do with the Bible or what it teaches.

Exactly as anyone can profess Christ. I know people who have never read their bible at all who said a prayer 20 years ago and never fellowship with Christians who PROFESS Christ.

The bible says in Matthew 7:22-23 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name? and in your name have cast out demons? and in your name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity.

Profession means nothing without Repentance, Confession of sins. The Bible shows us the word, will, and standards of God that He wants us to live by.

Just because people use the word God doesn’t mean they are talking about the God of our Fathers. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

The Church is filled with arrogant and self serving people who speak of God as though He is serving us.

God does not serve us, rather we serve God. He is not here for our pleasure rather we are him for His pleasure.

Christians as well as non believers are becoming lovers of themselves and living in complete fear and darkness.

I’m amazed at the children of God who don’t spend “any” time reading and studying the word of God but speak of Him through the greedy words of a false prophet. Anyone with a small amount of Christ can see the truth about Oprah’s agenda and who really is backing her non talented rise to super stardom.

The bible says ” Lean not unto your own understanding.”

In other words don’t rely on what you feel, think, or believe to substitute for the true conception or revelation of God but rather rely on the very word of God.

The bible says the word of God is His Voice, His Will, His Ways, and reveals His Standard.

T.D Jakes has arrived to where he always wanted to be in Business. His business is Mo Money.

I admonish and charge you to turn to the word of God and quit relying on this inclusivism and haughty everyday feel good God ATM Santa Claus image

Her conversion to Christianity? She had Spiritualist Deepok Choprak and New Age Iyanla Vanzant and Tony Robbins had her more than literally doing the pagan walk on coals of fire which is a pagan practice. She still is an advocate for all the roads led to God. Jesus said he is THE WAY not A Way to God.

Has anyone noticed that Oprah never gave TD Jakes a format to teach till her ratings start dipping and floundering. I watched it and Jakes failed to mention the word Jesus. He gave a totally secularized sermon No Pastor/Bishop of his magnitude should compromise the Gospel not even for Ms. Oprah. I wish she’s sit down already. She is an Evangelist leading many people into New Age and End time deception!

Just a spoon full of sugar helps the medicine [poison] go down, in the most delightful way !

I have listened to Jakes and compared his philosophies for years to true Christianity, and he has definitely developed a following [like the Pied Piper] who will lead all those faithful to a drowning death of soul if they are not careful of what is being preached here.

I am a cradle Christian, and in these terrible end times, always try to embrace myself with the Word of God. I watch Christian television, and TBN & Daystar, and these tv evangelists are more and more treading on dangerous waters preaching heresy. If you are not close to God and stay in the Word daily, you will never recognize what these liars are doing. Jakes and Winfrey are deceivers and fakes. They have to give you a little sugar in order for you to swallow the poison.

Who could have believed the multi-billionaire Winfrey was going to retire completely from the talk-show circuit and just go away and do nothing? This television network she birthed called OWN is a ruse, and she flaunts nothing but New Age garbage shows on it, and left-wing liberal socialism. She is an Obama-lover, what else do you need to see?

To couple oneself with the likes of Oprah Winfrey and her New Age mantra of “self” and “The Secret” is tantamount to heresy. Christ told us: “A good tree cannot bear bad fruit. Neither can a bad tree bear good fruit.” And, that “You will know them by their fruits.”

Christ also says, “I know my sheep, and mine know me.” And I will tell you my observation: Jakes and Winfrey are not of Christ. They do not bear good fruit. They run from one side to the other appearing to be a good tree, but then bearing bad fruit, and vice versa. They try to come off as intellectuals and spew this belief system on the world “according to Oprah.” How often have we heard that? Who believes it? She is a liar like Satan, and so is Jakes. Jakes will be judged worse, because he is claiming to preach the Word of God and calls himself bishop.

Remember what St. Paul says about bishops, who entering in among us not sparing the flock. Woe to them, they will be judged worse than anyone. The deceivers who claim to be men of vocations.

Isn’t it kind of hypocritical to blast her Oprah for being an Obama lover esp. since the Republican party has thrown their weight behind a man whose religion formed in the 15 century by a man who claimed he has a new version of the gospel given to him by an Angel named Moroni with golden tablets and a different Plan of Salvation than the original one in the Authorized bible?

At least Jakes could be a little original with his rantings. He is just paraphrasing the false preacher, Rick Warren, of THE PURPOSE-DRIVEN LIFE thought process. And we all know what Rick Warren is. He is Obama’s right hand man now as far as preachers go, outside of Jeremiah Wright, who turned out to be a little too radical for Obama’s image right now.

Rick Warren is so heretical it is horrible. And the speech he made equating Christians, and Muslims, etc., putting all faiths on the same plateau with each other, sounds just like Winfrey’s beliefs.

Now Jakes is aligning himself with her, and spewing the same Purpose-Driven lifestyle. If everyone can’t see through this, there is something seriously wrong.

Its a shame that this forum is about discussing someone’s spirituality. If you strongly believe in Jesus and Christianity why don’t adhere to it. Do not judge and act God when you are not. Remember no man/pastor will take you to heaven, it is you and God alone. B&E I think you should desist from this practice, you are not an authority to the ways of God. If she wants to promote New Age and not believe in Jesus, let her be. If a lot of people are being led astray by her new doctrines, let them be. Only God has the final say. Concentrate on building your own spiritual life and faith. Continue to do good and remember Jesus commandment “Love thy neighbor as thou love thyself”.

The bible says preachers will be judged more harshly if you reject the word of God and twist it you will be in for a rude awakening at the judgement if you know in your heart you can’t preach the word of God correctly then you should not preach keep your mouth shut and listen

well oprah, let me tell YOU that even though i didn’t know Him, Jesus came to ME and that’s how i came to know Him! He knows who will and will not accept Him. and if you will but have no one to come tell you about Him, He will come to you Himself! He knows all things, so He knows if you would accept Him or not!

God said Grace and peace be muiltiplied to you in the knowledge of God and Jesus our lord,as his divine power has given to use all things that pertain to life and Godliness through the knowledge of him who called us by glory and virtue 1Peter 1:2-3. Gods word have the answer to every important question of life.It contains everything we need to know to live a Godly life and to inherit everlasting life.This is in fact an age of Godless Preaching, God said in his word he would send a lie, because of so much unbelief and if we don’t hold on to the old rugged cross we will burn in hell. Our first step is Act2:38 http://www.biblestudyguide.org Thank You so very much B&E God Bless

Dear friends, there are two-hundred-and-something countries in the world, a world with 7 billion people. Of these, the US is one and its 300 million less than a 20th. Yet this country was blessed by God to be the most prosperous on earth, for now, by having received immigrants from all over the world. So, here in Africa, where I am, we’re receiving the good and the bad out of the US all day long. Who has the media, has the say and the limelight. Churches are being planted where churches were, making the existing ones look pathetic and poor and mundane. This article is about two Americans, again, swaying the world of Christianity. Fort me, it feels clear: where the money is……. With Jesus, it was, and stil is, the opposite.

vanity up on vanity is vanity… oprah never has nothing to do with God, Jesus and even anything that has to do with God. sometimes i wonder why people think when they are rich, they are now the creator of themself… well, they better think twice.. they are rich and what ever they have gotten is all by the grace of God.. God is a mecifull God… they better turn from there evil ways and give their life to JESUS.. he is the only WAY… Oprah repent, TIME IS THICKING

Does anybody understand that G-d & L-rd are substitute words? Does anybody understand that the cross is an abomination to the Father according to Ezekiel 8:13-15? Also there is no “j” in Hebrew so Jerusalem = Yerushalayim, Elijah = Eliyahu, Jeremiah = Yirmeyahu, & so on… Do we as so called saints really know it all to judge another?

How can The Father who send his Son to the cross for the sake of man ever say that the cross of His Son is an Abomination. Ezekiel 8:13 to 15 says nothing about the cross, & the comment is taken out of Context, reminding one as to how the Scribes & Pharisees falsely accused Christ. It is not surprising as to why God has kept the revelation of the Arc of the Covenant stated in 2Maccabes2 from such . “For they love not the truth, for which reason God sends a strong delusion so that they believe the lie” such are already condemned. The choice is only one, God or Mammon. The covenant left Israel long ago when the Children of Israel transgressed the law , even unto Marrying the heathen, clearly mentioned by prophet Erza to the “cutting off” even more so to today Shem becomes Ham & Japeth saying we are Jews. The truth is as the Bible states, for them in Christ are the Children of Abraham, which are the children of Faith. Israel is Spiritual to the inheritance, the final part in the continuation, for God is Spirit , the Father of it., & to this there is no Jew or Gentile ( the Elohim to the Sons of God in heaven like Archangels Micha-EL, Gabri-EL, etc. are Spiritual so it is the case with them chosen from Earth to the Elohim be Spiritual Isra-EL- meaning to the Inheritance) Christ, & the fulness of Him is what the revelation of the Covenant to 2 Maccabees2″ is about, for the gathering is unto Himself, individually & Spiritually in His mercy no doubt.. If the author is true to Christ, the comment will be retained if not it will be deleted, for one before has already been deleted to the appeasing. Appease none is to Worship God

Id like to ask a question to the guys running this site. If you could all identify yourselves. If you want to proclaim the Word, you need to identify yourselves. Jesus said that He had no secrets. The fact that you guys do not reveal who you are, I find to be quite worrisome honestly. As well as do you guys profess that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the one and true God?

Hearing all this New Age/Illuminati/Boule jazz and how the black community has sold out to the concept of NWO, I’m asking are there any preachers, public officials, singers (gospel or not) who haven’t sold out?

BTW I hear TBN is as Illuminati as they get.. Some preachers there are indeed questionable, I once heard Pat Robertson say he doesn’t believe in demons. I don’t trust anybody who questions the Bible. Oh and the TBN logo,.. looks devilish to me.

I remember when T. D. Jakes did not believe and the holy trinity and said so. The believe Jesus did and asked he deciples to baptize in the name of the Father, the name of the Son (Jesus) and the name of the Holy Ghost.. The word trinity is not in the Bible but is one word for above. How is it T. D. Jakes can’t find this simple Scripture? He does not know the Bible . T. D, Jakes stopped saying he did not believe in the trinity (See how short it is) after the Bible Answer Man Hank Hannagraph forced his hand. He does not know God.

I enjoyed this reading very much. Thank you for So brilliently articulating this thorn in the side of many Christians. Sadly people would rather go to someone else and take them at their word than hear from God himself through his word. Here here…..I really enjoyed this…..please post more treasures of Wisdom ….looking forward to reading them. God bless you friend.

T D Jake’s is a oneness penticostal who doesn’t believe in the tri-une God (Matt 3:16-17; Acts 7:55),Oneness pentecostals are not biblical christian’s (John 3:3-7; Acts 2:37-41; Matt 28:19) because they deny this essential christian doctrine.They also preach a false gospel of baptismal salvation(evidenced by speaking in tongues despite Pauls words in 1 Cor.12:1-11;14:1-40) and when they baptise,they baptise in Jesus’ name only.

You already know about mega-mergers. Banks swallow up smaller banks to increase their territory. At one time interstate banking was illegal now it is legal. Oprah Winfrey earned her over a billion dollars being a CEO somewhat the same. I imagine Oprah Winfrey has book stores or is heavily invested in e-books. I thought we heard the last of Oprah Winfrey when she retired.

Alas, she is publicly merging with T.D. Jakes and she is the major stock holder. Sales will increase for T.D. Jakes because of who she is. Oprah Winfrey profits will increase because of the both of them. Whenever you hear either one of them you will think of both of them. She will acquire more Churches that way. And beware, Publishers like she are insisting writers to write Christian Fiction due to the huge success of Tim Lahays Left behind series Christian Fiction.

Do you know what a mega-merger is? In this day and age who does not? Larger companies have been swallowing up smaller companies for years. They will buy a company that increases their profits or they can take a tax write off for it. They will also drive competitive companies out of business. They like free money too. They love the governments bail out. They owe the government so much that they can’t possibly pay them back. It is all the same for them. That is how corporations work. It is nothing personal. It is just doing business. They don’t want their business doors to close.

Is that was happened to T.D. Jakes ministry. Swallowed up by Oprah Winfrey Incorporated? So many ministries have gone belly up in the last days of the apostasy, the great falling away. It is like Revelation 2 and 3, having lost their first love (the bible), led by the angel of their church building (an anti-Christ), and I can’t say if is by denomination anymore. Church’s are so much in debt as property values have dropped by half and salaries of members have dropped. Members can no longer afford pastor’s lifestyle and afford the prosperity church leaders told them they could. They can no longer afford the blessing of their god anymore, by naming it, and claiming it, and going to the bank to secure a loan.

These things Jesus hath judged of the church and more of present day. All of them were destroyed or will be. To those who hold the doctrine of Balaam and Jezebel the false prophets. And to those like the church in Sardis. And to those with Synagogues of Satan. Because thou art lukewarm I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing. Also you have followed Sodom and Gomorrah which I destroyed by my own hand. And to those whose god was the bank, savings, and lending institutions. And to those that held the false doctrine of prosperity prophets, who could not read the newspaper, and predict the economic crisis we have been in for a long time.

Is the arrangement between Oprah Winfrey and T.D. Jakes ministry a hostile takeover? Did he have any choice to stay in business? Oprah Winfrey Incorporated is a shrewd business person. How else could she amass her great fortune?

Jezebel of’ ole conduced an inquisition to take over an inherited vine yard from a simple man even causing his death , the spirit of witchcraft, this came against her many fold unto her spiritual seed through the inquisition even to the words of the Son of God unto the church of Thyatira “You suffer the woman Jezebel”–‘i will kill her children–” but she repented not unto the Protestant rebellion into the thousands of its divisions , in the continuation of the Prophecy until the transgressions come to the full to the ever increasing, women chiefly indulging in it in what ever names. To this It is interesting to note as stated in the O.T “‘Suffer not a witch to live'” now this word “To suffer” is to mean “To Let” & in the NT unto the Church of Thyatira was said “You suffer the woman Jezebel” in this case to mean “To Tolerate” . Now whether it be To let or to Tolerate it denotes the complacency towards sin with Sodom come as the marker. Unto the Prophesied days of Noe & Lot where sin becomes an accepted & normal way of Life like then, when sudden destruction befell them & is likewise Prophesied & to this, Abomination, America born of England in the beliefs of Ancient Egypt lead the way to revealing the Prophecy of what Spiritually is “Sodom & Egypt”.

The way this world is going we need to hear more about Jesus and less about what we want for our life. When we accept Jesus and turn and repent for our sins then we will know who we relly are. GodBless

Oprah undoubtedly cleaves to the humanistic belief that “There is a way that seems right to a man” but denying that “its end is the way to death.” I have heard her refer to herself as a Christian, but her declaration reminds me that at times, our personal view of who we are in Christ can be misinformed and deluded. We know that at the end of this age, many will fall away. I believe that they will turn to beliefs that they sincerely believe are right and godly. I just suggest we remember Oprah when we pray.

We are all given God’s grace why can’t we give it to others if God is so freely giving it to us???

I am a Christian & in a ministers family.

JESUS ATE WITH THE SINNERS AND ALL THE PEOPLE CONDEMNED HIM!!!

JESUS SAID HE CAME FOR THE LOST NOT THE SAVED.

Meaning how is a preacher like Bishop T.D. Jakes who is a southern minister raised Christian & a Pentecostal or any preacher for that matter going to reach out to an audience of unsaved if they are never around them!!!

He has saved thousands for Christ, how many have you saved??? He also over sees more than 50 out reach programs for God around the world.

I know for a fact that Oprah who is from my home state was raised southern Baptist and was and still is a Christian. She use to get in trouble on her show for talking about God, Jesus Christ and being a Christian. She talks often about never being able to out give God. That she gives away half and in a few months God blesses her ten-fold.

One of my favorite Oprah testamonies was the I surrender all Lord Jesus. Beautiful.

By the way I was raised Baptist & Methodist. There have been many great men in my family called to minister both Baptist & Methodist.

I want to point out that Dr. Charles Stanley a Baptist minister in Atlanta said one time the most important relantionship is YOUR PERSONAL RELANTIONSHIP WITH CHRIST. We need not worry about other people think about our personal relantionship with Christ. God is God and He certainly can handle the world He created. He doesn’t need their help.

I don’t find that it is my job to judge some one else’s work for the Lord. I can promise you that as harshly as many here are judging I pray God does not return the favor to any of you. Your missing the point of Grace in the Bible.

I also don’t understand what money has to do with being a Christian. Many think Christians are the be poor yet the Bible has many many many stories of God blessing people with great wealth.

I heard Oprah say that she gave away half and within a few months Jesus blessed her 10 fold. Hmmm a rich person saying that all she has is from Jesus Christ is not a new age mystic.

Also be reminded that Oprah has said many many times on her show over the years that just because she interviews some one does not mean she agrees with them. She is a journalist like a news person. I don’t think people get bent out of shape went a male white journalist interviews a murderer!

All I am saying is if you didn’t watch Oprah every day and hear her with her own mouth proclaim she is a believer of Jesus Christ and is a Christian and if you have not watched all of T.D. Jakes sermons and that he is a minister of God and his sermons are always scripture and Bible KJV based. Then you don’t have any room to judge peroid.

Btw not that it matters but I am a white southern woman who is a Christian and I find T.D. Jakes sermons to be filled with God’s Grace, God’s consequences & God’s love. His sermons on Moses over the last few weeks were brillant.

I am not judging any one’s salvation on here I just know that really no one has the right but God to judge some one else’s heart. Many take scripture out of context without knowing what Jesus is meaning.

Also did you know that some times preachers are ask to speak at none church events just as a motivational speaker my family has. Is it wrong to spread words of love, comfort, joy, happiness to a world full of horrific events, children being killed, wars etc. You see as Christian’s it isn’t that we preach you will never have a problem it is that we are preaching the solution to your problems. I have seen people so sick and dying yet they were so happy and joyful.

We must remember the Bible says God is love. If God is love then we are to extend it.

I think the best thing we can all do is look in the mirror and judge ourselves & when you are finally perfect then maybe you can condemn someone else. Oh that’s right the Bible says we are ALL SINNERS SAVED BY GRACE! Even after we are saved we ALL still sin. No one will ever be perfect until they get to Heaven.

Jesus also said I am all things to all people that I might win a few. We don’t all respond to the same type of sermon or preacher because God created us all different.

Don’t lose God or being a Christian by pointing out all the faults of others. I encourage you to watch Bishop T.D. Jakes Christmas sermons from 2012 called Don’t Loose Jesus in the Feast. This is not new age any thing it is old school Bible preaching.

He talks about how the world has forgotten God and now we can’t say Merry Christmas, we can’t put up baby Jesus at Christmas in public places or hear gospel Christmas music in the stores while we shop the world wants us to say happy holidays. I can promise you no new age stuff here in this sermon just good Biblical truth. He talks about Mary and Joseph loosing Jesus at the feast. His own parents lost him.

Let’s not loose Jesus in the feast or in judging others. Why? Because we are all sinners!

Jesus made no qualms about rebuking the religious leaders in Jerusalem who had distorted the law and politicized religion. We are saved by Grace versus anything we do, but to say that pastors and celebrities who distort the truth believe in Jesus ignores the fact that even demons know that Jesus is savior and they actually tremble.

The danger in deviating from the Word of God is that it can potentially lead others to fall or perish. We will be held accountable for what we say and what we do and the Word of God clearly states there is a punishment to those who cause others to fall. However, rather than condemning pastors who distort the Word or celebrities like Oprah, who have said there are many ways that lead to God, we need to bring their error to their attention and always pray for them.

You state: “He has saved thousands for Christ, how many have you saved??? He also over sees more than 50 out reach programs for God around the world.” Really? he saved thousands? and your assessment is based on what exactly? And all of these people that do “charitable deeds” for the entire world to see…I believe the Bible states that they’ve already gotten their reward and when performing an act of charity that the left hand should not know what the right hand is doing.

As to your statement: “Also be reminded that Oprah has said many many times on her show over the years that just because she interviews some one does not mean she agrees with them. She is a journalist like a news person. I don’t think people get bent out of shape went a male white journalist interviews a murderer!” Wow, really? that’s what you’re going to go with? Enough said on your part I guess…

I’ve watched Oprah more than I care to admit and if ever there was a person to speak with “forked tongue” it is that one. If she interviews a so-called Christian, then she speaks about God. Seems like every person that she’s interviewed she could identify with. Give me a break.

Finally, please, just because someone mentions the name of Jesus Christ in an interview does not make them a follower of our Lord and Saviour, even demons recognised Christ when confronted by him.

I think Oprah does still believe there are many roads to God. I think by having all of the various speakers on her Life Class is just her giving different views to those road and not that those speakers believe in New Agism per say.

I’m not going to judge Oprah. Thats for God to do. There have been classes that have been helpful and others not so helpful.

The Sorceress & the Sorcerer, reflecting that ancient Egyptian beliefs signified in Zechariah Ch. 5 to the wickedness in an Ephah set to be established by two storked winged woman, in the uncleaness to the witchcraft of the occult in what the Bible says “The whole world will be deceived by the “Sorcery”.

I have heard many comments about Jakes as if he was or had always been a follower of traditional Christian beliefs. Up until when has Jakes been a traditional charismatic ? I would say never. Jakes beliefs and ministry have always been associated with Apostolic or “Jesus Only”movement. The apostolic teaching that denies the Holy Trinity and supports the heresy of “Jesus only” has been espoused by Jakes for many years. Let’s not ask Jakes or his following to do anything less than fully repent for all his erroneous teachings. Just reinstating his use of “In Jesus name” whether for Oprah’s audience or those who call him pastor should be suspect as to its true spiritual meaning and intent.

I can’t believe all the people getting their panties in a wad over this. Who cares if he isn’t preaching about God or the Bible? What’s wrong with teaching people about passion, about not living their lives as something they’re not? Teaching people about those things is just as important, if not more important, than shoving your religion down their throats. Additionally, I highly, highly doubt anyone in Oprah’s Lifeclass is interested in hearing about God or the Bible. People don’t go to things like this for religion; they go for help. If they want to hear about religion, they can easily go to church on Sundays. OWN is not a religious network, so I highly doubt they would allow religious network on their network. That would be like TBS showing religious films on Sunday, even if most religious films are laughably bad.

Thanks for your comments. Considering the crowd there was riveted by what Bishop TD Jakes had to say, I think it’s safe to say they were interested in hearing about God. It’s not like Jakes has any specialty in any other area that would warrant him being on Oprah. But to get to your first question – the reason why we care is because there are souls at stake. This ministry does not want people to go to Hell and the lake of fire. That is our main concern. And TD Jakes, as a pastor, has a duty to share the Gospel. When he preaches another Gospel we are commanded by The Lord to point this out and direct people back to Biblical Christianity.

Additionally, during this life class, Oprah had three pastors on as teachers. So again, to try and paint this as something that was not religious in nature seems to not be supported by her casting decisions. But even then it’s irrelevant because Jakes was still presenting a false, New Age Gospel. And that is something Christians are to point out in order to keep others from spiritual error.

I love these guys and this is sad. Oprah quoted the Book of Ruth when she went on her job interview to host the show. We must pray for them for the Lord is coming and He will judge what is of Him and what will burn

When we talk about Christianity we believe that Jesus is the only way to God , but what Jakes & Oprah preach in Christian name is against the Christian belief, where Oprah says there are million ways to god & Jakes preachers oneness pentecostalism, making both of them to be secret Hindus to Hinduism in Oprah’s million gods to the million ways, whereas to Jakes oneness teaching is but to the Trinity of Hinduism where the chief gods are represented as one body with 3 heads(where these heads are never in agreement with one another Suggesting Confusions & Chaos, never to a unity) whereas the Christian trinity is to the Father, Son & Holy Spirit as three separate persons in one God in the same essence, to a perfect unity, & where our belief is, to this so will our unity be, to Christ unto the Father & the Holy Spirit just as their unity is in the absolute perfection. To this the belief in the former to the likes of Oprah & Jakes is but to the disunity, that is deceiving. To know the differences come in the very fundamentals. The truth comes from the Bible about God not to be author of confusion.

You know not what you talking about… Pentecostal is not Hinduism, not Buddhist.. Godhead is scripturally correct as 3 in 1, an 1 in 3.. Colossians 2:9 KJV 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Trinity is not in the bible, but means same thing as Godhead which is in the bible.. All 3 Father, Son Jesus, an Holy Ghost work as one ! Same beings, yet different also.. working for same cause !

“Look before you leap” Oneness Pentecostalism means that at any one time there can be only one person. Col 2:9- “For in Him (Christ) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead Bodily” to the word “Bodily” mean ?

Bodily is to the physical,how then can it be to the fulness for the bible states”God is Spirit”? 3 in 1 is three persons- The Father, Son & Holy Spirit as one God, to a perfect unity., when in terms of comparison it would read the words of Jesus “The Father is greater than I” Where as 1 in 3 is one person as three gods in which case there can be only one person manifested at any one time as mentioned, the Error of oneness pentecostalism of TD Jakes that he claims to have corrected which is but preaching in terms of Trial & Error & in the bargain leading people astray, away from the basis of the fundamental Christian Faith. Like the difference between Hinduism/Buddhism & Christianity is that where Hinduism acts “Mightier than god” to its millions of gods against which the Bibles says “It is not by power neither by might but by my Spirit says the Lord of Hosts”. Where as Buddhism acts as “Holier than god” to sitting cross legged & chanting “Love & Fresh air” of the manner, where as to Christianity says “The many that I love I Rebuke & Chastise” for this surely leads to the salvation compared to the former’s self lifting through the Occult- Fiddle hole methods leading to the wrong side of God.

PLEASE JEHOVAH THE ONLY ONE TRUE GOD OF HEAVEN AND EARTH. LORD, EVEN THOSE WHO ARE LOST ARE YOURS AND EVEN LUCIFER HIMSELF YOU CREATED HIM. FATHER, PLEASE SAVE THOSE WHO OBEY YOUR COMMANDS FOR THE GREAT WRATH THAT YOU ARE SOON SENDING ON THE UNIVERSE. THE SCRIPTURE MUST COME TRUE THAT IN THIS DAYS THE LOVE OF MANY WILL GROW COLD AND MEN WILL BETRAY EACH OTHER BUT WOE UNTO THE PERSON WHO FULFILLS THE BOOK OF PROPHESY. PREPARE YE THE WAY THE MESSIAH IS COMING.SHALOM.

GUESs you forgot David, Solomon, an Abraham..An others God loved were these.. Wise an Rich By Gods hands.. PEople forget that.. ITs just some GEt rich For Gods Purposes, an men alone without God falsify an get their own by satan.. God feeds His Kingdom as well.. His children is how He does it.. What is your talent making? Greed is of the devil though.. some calling good preachers false, others calling false false cause they are.. An Should we not leave it to God whom is , or is not false? An be asking Lord IF this preacher is false, lead me elsewhere an I will follow..

TD Jakes was bought on a BISHOP TD JAKES. Oprah identifies him as TD JAKES and even says she heard him preaching-seen him him preaching at the Potter’s House and heard him teaching on PURPOSE-so she decided to bring him on the show. So he was bought on as a guest to speak about purpose. The problem with people judgeing the Bishop is WE don’t know where God is going with him just appearing on the show. The audience knows he is a Bishop-they Even know that he is TD JAKES. People might be inspired by the power of the holy spirit and power of the words he spoke and give their lives to Jesus. In addition both examples do not show the Bishop’s entire speech.

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The real Christians are the fundamental Bible believers who hold that Jesus is God in the flesh and the only eternal Savior and we are saved and eternally secure by faith alone in Jesus Christ alone. There are real Christians from all over and every denomination, and, God is so amazing, He can even save people who attend the false teachers’ mega churches and false prophet gatherings, as long as the Gospel is presented. Benny Hinn for example is a liar and a false prophet but I know of a person who was saved when they went to one of his conferences, and the person trusted in Jesus Christ and was saved. But that does not mean I endorse that liar Benny Hinn.

Any Bible preaching,teaching child of God should be ashamed of themself and more importantly FEARFUL of the Lord their God that died on the cross that our lives may be saved…to merely throw your life and the lives of millions of others that will be deceived by you and take the path you now teach that leads straight to hell!Oprah, you have been lost for a very long time,but T.D.Jakes HOW COULD YOU ALLOW GREED TO TURN YOU AWAY FROM THE TRUTH!!! THAT IS “THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO HEAVEN AND THAT IS THROUGH JESUS CHRIST!!! (SALVATION)

John 14:6 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

http://biblehub.com/genesis/1-27.htm IN HIS IMAGE WE ARE MADE ! HE is a God.. Probebly What she refers too..Not sure? IF what she refers too truth in it ! However it means GOD is in us ! An We bY HIS might an Power by PRayer can do as GOD.. Does not mean we more powerful than God..

I use to watch Oprah a lot.. But when she stated with this new age stuff.. an stated out her mout was no need for Jesus to have come.. I quit watching her..

An For Brother jakes to follow her.. Oh My..HE was a greath PReacher in the past ! Loved his sermons..

As for MAKing money in church an tlents..NOTHING WRONG WITH IT ! Even in the kingdom it takes money to make money ! An God knows this..HE says IF you Obey an Follow Him you Will PRosper to Glorify Him an His kingdom… BUT ! BUT ! IT cannot be greed for self.. It has to be For LOVe of God to Glorify God in manner God wants you to go.. KEyword search God supply.. Storehouse..etc.. MAny many Scripture on it.. MY Fave is Phillipians 4:19

An YEs Monica Christians lose sight an act cruel as the unsaved.. an leading their souls to hell..

I have to admit that I struggle with this article and also many comments by the people who read it. Many of the scriptures mentioned in this article hold truth and a very important but are used by someone who does not truly understand their meaning. If anyone is truly in search of God, Jesus Christ, and his truth you must worship God from within. The word clearly states that we are God’s holy temple. 1 Cor. 6:19 and 2 Cor. 6:16. These are prime examples of God explaining who you are. Where does God dwell? In his holy temple. Where is God’s Temple? Inside of Man and every other animal, fiber, and molecule that exist in the universe. You cannot turn around without seeing God. When you recognize that, many of the problems you have in life, won’t seem so big.

There is a Christ Consciousness that man must awaken to. When Jesus said that I AM the way the truth and the light, nobody come to the Father but by me. He was not speaking of himself. But of the I AM in him. Remember Moses, when he asked God who should I say sent me. God replied and said that I AM that I AM. Nobody can come to the Father unless they worship the Father from within. This was Jesus’ message. How can you say you know God unless you have a personal relationship with him. He said it himself I shall walk with them, I shall talk with them, I will be there God and they will be my people. Remember Jesus stated that he did not come speaking of himself but of the Father.

Recognize what God is saying. If anyone says that I am speaking blasphemy or witchcraft they do not know their scripture. Another point, man will not become God because he is already one with God. The scriptures call you gods, Ps 82 and John 10:34-35. Wake up and recognize who you are!! You are heirs of God and joints heirs with Christ Jesus. That does not make you the God above God. But one with him. When you realize that, it brings a greater peace and purpose to your life. You no longer struggle with sin. Not because the temptation isn’t out there. But because you spend your time focusing on all the good things God has for you. So in this since, sin no longer exist to you. You will spend your time trying to make Heaven here on earth. Remember that was a part of Jesus’ prayer. Now out of all the things I said they are proven through scripture. I ask all of you to judge a righteous judgement and look to the God within and see what true spiritual transformation is taking place upon this Earth….God Bless you all

Thanks for your comments. I respectfully disagree. Nowhere in the Bible is there any mention of “Christ Consciousness.” That is a New Age term, made up by non-Christians. But let’s examine how one becomes a temple of God.

You quoted John 14:6 and said:

There is a Christ Consciousness that man must awaken to. When Jesus said that I AM the way the truth and the light, nobody come to the Father but by me. He was not speaking of himself. But of the I AM in him. Remember Moses, when he asked God who should I say sent me. God replied and said that I AM that I AM. Nobody can come to the Father unless they worship the Father from within. This was Jesus’ message.

Let’s look at this verse in context:

Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. 4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know. 5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. 7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

The Lord Jesus Christ is not merely saying that God is “in Him” – He is proclaiming that He is God. He told Thomas that from henceforth, he has already seen the Father, by seeing Jesus. Jesus is clearly distinguishing Himself from every other person on the planet. He told them where He was going (Heaven), they could NOT go. But the only way they could eventually go was through Him.

8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? 10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. 11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake. 12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. 13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

Notice again, that Jesus is the exclusive way of access to God The Father. If we were all gods, or all had Christ’s power, why would we need His name? Why couldn’t we just go to God on our own, in our own name? Obviously we should be able to. But since we are not gods and not the Christ, we cannot. We can only go based on the perfect sacrifice of Christ on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins. And even once we are believers, we are to pray in Christ’s name. He is the only way to Heaven, not our own selves.

15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. 19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

And here is where a person becomes the temple of God. Once you have believed in Jesus Christ’s death on the cross for the forgiveness of your sins, then Jesus sends you the Holy Spirit, which indwells you, giving birth to a new spirit inside of you. Notice this is an external process. Our insides are corrupt, sinful and filthy in God’s sight. The Bible says the human heart is “desperately wicked and deceitful above all things.” The Bible says “our righteousness is as filthy rags.” “All men have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” It is our sin that had made us worthy of hell and the lake of Fire in God’s just judgment. So we are not God’s at all. We are rebels in Satan’s grasp. Until we believe in Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of those sins. And then the Holy Spirit comes to us. There is no “little god” inside of us. Or a “Champion in you” to quote the false teachings of Joel Osteen. Being a Christian starts with recognizing the lies, hatred, stealing, blasphemy, sexual sin, covetousness and all manner of evils we willingly chose to do all our lives (as I can attest having filled that entire list of sins and more). And it is only through GRACE, God’s unmerited favor, that we are saved:

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. – Ephesians 2:8-9.

This is when we receive the Holy Spirit. This is when Christ’s work saves and redeems us. When we realize we can do nothing to save ourselves. That we deserve Hell. And put all our faith and trust in Christ to redeem us.

The New Age movement wants us to boast. It wants to say – “realize your greatness! You are so special. You are chosen. You are just like God.” This is a deception that started with the Devil. Scripture clearly bears this.

I will end with discussing Psalm 82. This chapter is often misunderstood. I will not get into a line by line analysis but say that it is a chapter addressed to angels, not people. They were rebels who were misusing their authority in governing the nations of the world. And they were going to be judged for their wickedness. The Lord calls them gods, acknowledging their great authority, not to pump them up:

I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. 7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

Because of their sins, they stand judged and condemned. So the comment about them being gods was no compliment or affirmation that all humans are gods. It was a part of a great rebuke for the same problem every human has – SIN.

Truthfully said . The word Christ Consciousness is but a twisted form come from Hinduism to Krishna Consciousness, to clearly see Pagan beliefs being incorporated into the Christian faith, first through the words & then to its beliefs. That which comes against the Apostolic faith does not come against it but comes like it. The Apostasy that comes is not as Anti Christ but Pseudo Christ just as the word Krishna Consciousness being brought in as Christ Consciousness.,if the preachings of Joel Osteen, Jakes, Joycee, Brian Houston & the others are keenly observed in relation to the Scriptural ways, one such clear distinction is the “Appeasings”, Itching ears as the Bible calls it.

The problem with most people are that they are full of their self they use GOD for their excuse now GOD says he’ll give you riches but riches doesn’t always mean money.He’ll make you rich in him and all this new age garbage has got to go cause this is not the way GOD wanted things to go.People thinks if they hear a voice talking to them that it’s GOD,people forget the DEVIL will talk to you also and people get the devil mix-up with GOD.People these days get me they forgot about doing things for free they want their reward now and can’t wait for when they go to heaven or maybe they not going to go so they want it now I don’t know but the way people act and do make me want to puke at how they abuse everything about GOD .

In all of this there is the factor of ‘Racism’ exploited to the hilt even against the faith. Like when Obama said Gay is OK,the blacks who had all along been the strongest opposers of Gay Agendas overnight turned in their faith , for unto them was a god born, come through his Angels ,Jakes & Oprah to name two. Racism & Fascism are but two side of the same coin, well into the commonness of Elitism.

I had great respect and admiration for the ministry of T. D. Jakes. I have not seen the lecture. But knowing that Oprah Winfrey has no love for Christ concerns me that a man of the Lord God Jesus Christ would take part in her platform. To invite her to his congregation is a good thing if it will help guide her to the Lord. But with all the deception that is going on, it concerns me that such a reputable minister wouldl partake of forbidden fruits. I will listen to the lecture.

The essence of God creating man is for us to worship and glorify Him. The bible records that no man cometh to me to the Father except through my son Jesus Christ. At the mention of that name Jesus all knees must bow and all tongue must confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. These are signs of the end time that there shall be many false Christ and false prophets many shall come in my name. Our prayer is that God should help us expose them because of the millions of souls they are ready to lead astray.

Hey Charles, just out of curiosity, how would you respond to the skeptic who would argue that a God who creates solely to be worshipped and glorified is narcissistic and tyrannical and therefore not worthy of such devotion? (I don’t argue this, but it’s been thrown at me numerous times).

Vernon Griffin: It all has to do with how you interpret the Bible I grew up in old school Bible teaching because that’s how it was taught to my mother from her mother,I was taught to suffer on this earth because when I die I would inherit streets paved in gold and would be able to talk to and pet lions and tigers and on and on,that’s what the slave masters told the salves. Yet as we were being taught this rich people who also believed in Jesus were having their streets paved in gold on this earth ,are you saying they all are going to hell. I agree you put God first but if your saying God wants us to suffer even though Jesus came and died so we may live life more abundantly I have to disagree. Religion has put a limit on God and what he wants for us but I say God is limitless. That’s why their is the old and new statement cause God is always moving forward.

Let the Spirit testify unto the Father, one’s belief in Christ,, not of the mind, for the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of truth, so does not lie neither can be deceived.. What is the kind of preachings coming out of Jakes/ Oprah’s, Osteens, Dollars, Princes, Joyces etc even the whole lot of TBN & god TV – other than to Governmental, even unto the masonic goals ?

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I am excited that we have not drank the kool aid and rely on any man to bring us salvation. Only The Lord can achieve this for us and in us. Secondly, we must point out that Christianity was never suppose to be a religion and the name “Christian” was given as a name from man at the church of Antioch but God calls us Saints,

Those who are living for Him and reverently takes what Jesus did for us on the Cross and His Ressurection very seriously are manifesting Christ on Earth. This is why Jeus died for us. As we receive that sacrifice , the Holy Spirit comes and lives in us testifying of Jesus which leads us to God and through the Holy Spirit we live for God by loving His Son n thanking God for this act of Love that reunites us back to Glory.

With that being said, this is what satan doesn’t want. Satan hates our guts and any lie that he can sell in our sophistication of knowledge , he is using it. Our knowledge or conception of the principles of The Lord is being used as God Himself which provides no place for the Holy Spirit to have dominion.

But trust The Lord, He is ready for this level of apotasy by calling the saints out and separating us to Himself and we as believers will bring His Glory on the Earth so we all can get the heck out of here.. So pray for them but also know that they do not win and if they think they are fooling God then they will come to nothing but God’s heart is with His people so let’s keep praying and ensure that we will continue to be a Light where ever we go to shine our Light in Love to a dark and dying world..

John 15,16,17- Jesus heart before He went to the Cross.. He said He did not lose one that He was sent to bring home to God.. Let’s hold fast to that and know it’s for today and the future..

Great article of facts and truths to get people of God to think and have spiritual intelligence and to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ to find their purpose as The Lord intended for them to have on Earth and in Hevean.

For the followers of Christ were first called as “Christians” in Antioch, & a Christian is defined by the two commandments of Christ. for in it hangs the whole of the B, for the Lord Himself fulfilled it on the cross the second commandment in the works (love thy Brethren)to his second last words on the Cross “It is finished ” to the salvation of man & the First Commandments to his last words on the cross “Father, unto thee I commend my Spirit’ to giving Himself unto God.

By His two commandments are the way to Equate with Him on the Cross unto His words “Pick up your crosses & follow me daily”. For the Saints are them Christians who are ready to die for the two just as he did , as the testimony , even to be tested to the point of death for these two , by the sons of God moving in the Spirit in the latter rain & they lie not.

Thanks for your comments. Praise God we are in agreement on the false teachers referenced in the article and the need for discernment in the body of Christ. However, I do want to respond to two points you made that I disagree with:

“Secondly, we must point out that Christianity was never suppose to be a religion and the name “Christian” was given as a name from man at the church of Antioch but God calls us Saints, “

1) Christianity as a religion:

“Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. ” – James 1:27.

The Bible endorses religion. The Apostles met religiously. We have the covenant signs of baptism and The Lord’s Supper which are commanded to be done for all who believe. Hebrews 10:25 commands us not to forsake the assembling of ourselves together as a church body. We are to pray and read Scripture daily. All these are the hallmarks of religious practice. So I am not sure what you mean when you sat Christianity was not meant to be a religion.

2) We are not called Christians

Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: 13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy. 14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified. 15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men’s matters.16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf. – 1 Peter 4:12-16.

Without question, the Holy Spirit, who is God, speaking through the Apostle Peter, calls those who are born again believers, “Christians.” So it is indeed a title for those who believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

I offer these for your consideration as I think there is strong Scriptural support to my points. God bless you. -B&E

All of the responses are a part of who God is,we will never pin God down to only one thought or idea. We grow up to believe in something because of our surroundings. The belief we hold so dear to our hearts is not just coming from your thinking you found the right way,but from a life time of hearing it from your parents,friends,TV, the radio and on and on. You come to a conclusion based on some of that, we are in the billions coming to conclusions about truth so we fight each other to be right,so we can keep God in a bottle.

Where is the Hope of a poor/suffering man who number in Millions to Billions if their life is to be based on the surroundings in which case their lives become lost to the surroundings. Christianity is that Hope, against such surroundings. For the same surroundings mocked Noah , likewise Jeremiah & it so happened that the Truth was in them, come in the fullfillment through Christ Jesus as the only way, life & Truth to God., for therein is the Life eternal , which so happens to be narrow & winding . For a worm cannot traverse the Earth other that through the way given it. As the continents separate, the choice becomes either to life by the evolutionary way – the never ending millions & billions of years or through God in whom there is no time, needless to say sin is but time wasted for its wages is death, & to Cover & Justify are vain Philosophies brought about by the likes of the Oprah’s, even in Christian names through the TD,s.

Thank You: Our Brother Jakes has of Late taken a position that Jesus is a Brand. I can understand why he takes that position. You have to remember that the kind of exposure that men like him have makes it easier to add his opinion to the anointing. I truly believe that he thinks its right to do this to scripture. I understand how Believers feel that this is Heresy and it is. We as Believer know how this is going to end and need to Pray that our Brother is brought to an understanding of Who Jesus really is. As a Believer I know first hand how the Holy Spirit corrects situations like this. To my Brother Jakes a word of advise ( Do not lose your crown). And always remember worldly success is not always the true measure of close relationship with the Lord. And I close with this, Would you give it all away if he asked you to and follow him with Nothing.

This is all so interesting. I bought a recent book of T.D. Jakes that he has been promoting and the “reviews” were great however, I was almost instantly disturbed at the tone of this book. It was all “self” focused. I was very disappointed to NOT find Jesus in this book, at all. This book is not a book that leads you to Christ and how, with God’s help to grow, it is all internal “instincts” book. Which by the way is the name of the book. Then, recently, I saw the cover of Oprah’s magazine in the store and it had the same “idea” of Instinct with a picture of a lion behind her. TD Jakes used an Elephant. I thought “wow, I wonder if she stole that idea from TD Jakes” I had no idea that they knew each other and that he had done her class…..this is so bizarre to me! For sure need to be praying for TD Jakes and Oprah and more importantly, their “followers”. Thank you so much for this post, very interesting and enlightening for me and others, I’m sure. It amazes me how Oprah has been lifted up as she has but that is what happens when you are focused on self. YOU get lifted up, not Jesus. I can not judge her motives and yes she helps a lot of people, why wouldn’t she. It all leads back to her and how great SHE is. Kind of creepy really.

I only viewed a couple of these videos. The one with Joel Osteen bothered me, because, there is something missing, and that something is Someone, Jesus Christ. How can One say, “Thank you,” and that’s it? Who would you be thanking? Yourself? And, for what?? I don’t want to label all of these People, but I do know that Oprah is deceived. The only way that I feel like I can survive is to thank Jesus and what He has done for me. Romans 12:3 states: For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you. I believe that Mr. Osteen has gotten in over his head. His heart is good, he loves Jesus Christ but for some reason, he won’t mention the inevitable: “Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, dwell on these things. The things you have learned and received and heard and seen in me, practice these things, and the God of peace will be with you.” Philippians 4:8,9 The whole idea of I AM, comes from the One, true, I Am. : ) Then Moses said to God, “Behold, I am going to the sons of Israel, and I will say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you.’ Now they may say to me, ‘What is His name?’ What shall I say to them?” God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM”; and He said, “Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.'” God, furthermore, said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, ‘The LORD, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is My name forever, and this is My memorial-name to all generations.

I can love, only because the Lord loved me first.(John 4:19) I need to forgive, because He forgave me. (john 3:16) He created me and each one of us, beautiful and with special gifts, personalities, etc. He did this and we can’t take the credit, not in all honesty. Without Him, I would be nothing. “I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes[a] so that it will be even more fruitful. You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me. This is only a small part of John 15, which is so important in this life and the next. Sisters and Brothers, lets emember that we will be judged by the Lord, according to the way that we judge others. Let us love eachother, whether Believer or Non believer, as Jesus Christ loves each one of us.

An integral step to the Apostasy was the taking away the “Lords Prayer” through Protestantism misinterpreting the words “Pray of the manner” such that the words ” Thy Kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven” is now by various Evangelical churches like the Brian Houstan Hill songs, termed “As Above so below” & so happens that the above is not the heaven of God but off the words “We wrestle not against Flesh & Blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of darkness of this world, against spiritual WICKEDNESS in high places(Heavenly like places). “As above” refers to this heavenly like places, nothing but wickedness. And Lo, this they begin to pray, quiet a deceit even unto the words of Jesus to the scribes & pharisees. “Your father the devil”.

PAUL IN THE BIBLE SAID”And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?” (I Cor. 3:1-3)

In the above passage of Scripture, the apostle Paul speaks of the Corinthian Christians as being immature babies. Rather than having grown up and matured in the Lord, these Christians were still carnal and selfish babies who were bringing shame to the name of Jesus Christ

Could this be the case with you, friend? Are YOU a spiritual baby? No doubt, the Corinthians would have denied being immature babies, yet Paul stated that they were. Would he say the same about you? Please examine yourself, Christian, because YOU just might be a spiritual baby. SPRITUAL BABIES CAN’T UNDER STAND HOW TO DIGEST MEAT SO I AGREE WITH BISHOP T.D JAKES HE SPEAKING ON LEVEL WERE PEOPLE STILL HAVE BLINDER ON

Except that this Obama, the harbinger of sodom in the modern, interpreted by his bumchum bishop, in turn tagging Oprah, as “woman thou are loosed” is no wonder that he preaches oneness pentecostalism, the old heresy called Modalism & that’s been outlawed, its other word – Lawlessness, parts chipped off from that ‘ole iniquity,

Oprah may be the false prophet not a Pope yet to be as the present Pope is stepping fown in 2016 and thats why he came to America.

Who says the most powerful, rich and influential woman who has the ear of President Obama cannot be a woman. Oprah has certainly drifted away from her christian moorings. Many woman especially nlack.women look up to her and worship her, buy her books, watch her tv programs. The bible says to watch wolves in sheep’s clothing.

As fsr as T.D. Jakes just because he never named the name of Christ does not mean he has fallen away. God gives us different anointings and messages for different audiences. We cannot look at one or two messages and start calling him the devil incarnate.

What is tv program and he is always preaching about Jesus. He msy not be your cup of tea but we sre not give honour to those God has called. I see many christians judging ministers yet these same people have not a clue about monistry and bring a senior pastor like T,D, Jakes.

Most pasors work 16 plus hours a day and rarely get a dsy off. Maybe omce every three years they might get a holiday. Even then they sre constantly dealing with ministry business.

As far as so called Prosperity preachers well guess what God has different anointings for different folks but God will bless you if you work hard with excellency and you seed, give offerings and tithe.

Is this why Protestant America with all its Pastors & Prophets, not just fallen into Sodom, but spearheading the poison intended to be spread across the world , even as its leaders stand on the same sodomic platforms to be voted upon, seemingly OK with the likes of the TD Jakes, is but to discern the spirit behind it , which has not been, even as its Prophets ask ‘Where is America in Biblical Prophecy”.

For a mixed multitude that came out of Egypt “Figured” a golden calf & through it made a feast unto the Lord,except that they ended up in the worship of the holy cow then & now, to say they were worshiping god through the cow & all that contains in it. Now, since the fall, man is in need of Mediator to reconnect with God, which Mediator manifested as the Christ in the Appointed time , against which is to see Oprah by her many ways to god which but denotes the cow & TD Jakes through his fundamentally flawed theology to the heresy called ‘Modalism” which is but hinduism , again to the cow , even the likes of the many through the various philosophies all but amounts to heresy concerning the basic truth, off the cow., away from the Apostolic Faith. in the name of god like of ‘ole. . The underlying belief of the cow is but Self Worship – The very Abomination that causes the desolation.

Now off the Cow worship, was the Jezebel spirit( totally contrary to the Morning Star – who but a sheer pleasure & a delight unto the sons of men) witnessed in the spirit ( for the spirit does not lie) a woman of spite & hatred but an abomination, which same spirit, that of Adultery & Divorce, was that which beheaded “John the Baptist’ , was but to witness John in the spirit, on a cross with only his head, laughing away to glory , the wild man he was said to have been, indicates that God always has the last laugh.

I believe that it is necessary for a believer to point others to Christ as the source of peace, joy and eternal life. Only God can give purpose to anyone’s life. No other doctrine I have found can fulfill this.

However, maybe I need to watch the shows that TD Jakes was in to have the full picture of what he was saying. However, I am not fully convinved that Bishp Jakes is leaving Christ. I believe he is using tact to reach the world. Probably he should have pointed the lady to Christ to help her with her faith issues. That in deed is true. I also believe that sometimes faith problems happen because one may not have an accountability partner or may be comparing him or herself to other believers in the Church who seem to know it all. It is here that one will need to ask God to help him or her appreciate the baby steps he or she has taken and that He may offer him or her strength to face life as a believer.

Of course every Christian needs to stand up for his or her faith when confronted. However, I sometimes wonder how one can relate with unbelievers who do not know GOD and are the least interested in Him (It is here that a believer should ask God to show him or her how he or she can introduce God into the person’s life) In stead they have issues that they are facing and faith matters are least important in their lives. I believe that God can offer a believer tact to relate with unbelievers. We cannot sideline ourselves as Christians from non-believers. What we need is wisdom to relate with them and win them to Christ.

I also believe that Christians should be the source of transformation in society. How does one explain the concept of a good God when all around is evil, our societies are degraded. What we need to do even as we preach CHrsit is involve ourselves in activities that can enable our societies to change, for example, coming up w ith ideas that can lessen crime inthe community, communicating these ideas with others and findign ways of implementing them. We could also try and commend anything positive that is aired in media or in society whether Christian or secular. We could in stead of shying off from the so called “secular” organisations or systems, work in them and ask God to help us be the difference, just like Daniel and Joseph. When we stand out as believers in other matters of life, the world will be interested in us. They will want to know what our source is. This way, it will be easy to be heard. We shall proclaim our faith much easier and win the world to Christ.

I do not see anything wrong with Oprah liking T.D. Jakes’ writings. She must have seen something positive in them. It is up to any believer to be at his or her best, be it in how he or she conducts him/herself, contribution of the best ideas, and how he/she relates with others in all places. I also do not believe that the fact that an individual does not mention God in every statement makes him or her a traitor of God.

Above all, what I may ask is for God to give every believer wisdom to handle every situation as things can be tricky, that is, to stand up for Him and at the same time, to reveal God to the world in their lives.

Blessings.

Only the Holy Spirit can reach or change a person ! Please let the spirit do just that and leave our opinions or labels the world gives us all, labels which also are not in Jesus! Td jakes & Oprah thank you both, both from humble begginngs and now in positions to help others! All the back lash is crazy, to jakes you sir was the only preacher I found myself in and could finally relate to.. I’m a thinker and a adventurous 1!! Oprah you just awesome and keep on doing your thing! I look white but dam sonetimes I think I’m half black! And my life and it’s testimony .. And this coming from a white woman .. White folk are still ignorant and my of color friends have had more respect for others my entire life!! Others can say differently and that’s fine but my story which is actually Jesus story can say that starting at birth! Thank you both for all you do.. Ps I’m a Tyler perry fan , is he single ?? Lmbo I’m sending him a note and a thank you for all He does as well. Laughter is just as important as love since joy of the Lord holds us all up! Madea has picked me up off my floor many crying nights!!

People we need to get commandment number 1 out, and study every scripture on love ! When you get the 1st COMMAND of God then you have finally saw the truth, the way & the light! Religious folk been crying over the 10 being gone, Jesus said now there are only 2! But we can’t seem to get that and instead of loving like Jesus we sit around judging labels which are man made and our flesh will have instead of recognizing. Our spirit man can not & will not sin, it can’t! This flesh will till we with Jesus! All these labels we sit around and put each other down for when it’s simple . Love rm like Jesus .. Mind as well God created us all with a measure , and his hearts desire is ” no man to perish” , I believe Gods word triumphs the rest and No man will perish , tamp into the measure by loving them, flaws in all.. We don’t deserve His love BUT he gives it to each of us anyway ! If you have a pro ok with people any kind, I’d bet Jesus would tell you ” it’s your problem” too much focus is on the devil who is under our feet, instead of the creator who put him there!

Unto the Angel of the Church of Thyatira said the Son of God with eyes as flame of fire & feet as of fine brass, (where the fire burns away sin & the feet to tread upon/crush) . “For those that have not known the depth of satan I will give them the Morning Star” ( even witnessed with the same eyes, (for the Eye is the light of the body) as of fire & feet of fine brass- Humble & Loving(clearly denotes that “”Fiat of Mary) -A sheer Joy & Delight unto the sons of men even as stated in Job “— when the Morning stars sang together & all the sons of God ( the Elohim) shouted for Joy” Now what exactly is this depth of satan & this Morning Star. is but to ponder, However not to be confused with the term “son of the morning” or dawn or light bearer , which but is not the light but a reflection or forerunner, who through his pride corrupted himself & not the light which cannot be corrupted, for it is God Himself through His Expression. Now out of the depths of satan is that Jezebel spirit that of witchcraft , the spirit of “Adultery & Divorce” that today rules Protestant America born of England, out of an act of rebellion of a king by the same ‘Adultery & Divorce” typically to Herod unto the beheading of John the Baptist , the same Jezebel spirit working in all of this rebellion,, for rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft. Preachings today called “Positive preaching” or Positive Energy instead of the plain Truth, come in the name of love is like the sodomites unable to differenciate between love & lust unto making a Gnostic Christ sitting Crosslegged to chanting “love & fresh air” when in the truth He said “The many that I Love I rebuke & chastise” the treatment for a man in sin , for all have sinned. It is but to say that the preachers of the day like the TD’s, Osteens , the whole lot or most are but to earpleasings & LO “Make a name for themselves” as it was in Babel. No wonder that in the days of Apostasy , these Popular preachers are the Apostates themselves.

Love is the only answer! I personally refuse to sit around talk about others and watch a 2 second video that is actually a hour long! If you call your self a Christian it’s our duty to love each other and if it doesn’t up lift & encourage .. Shut up! God is not shock by a dam thing going on in this world , not one thing going on He Don’t know! All things will work out for His glory & a believers good! And we all talking about a tomorrow we are not promised !! Worried who is Satsn when is the second coming ?? It’s been crazy all the nonsense said.. It hit me one day can we count ? Jesus was born that is 1, he died & came back that is 2??? Who is to say it hasn’t happened yet ? Where I am in my study and I may be wrong but I believe that The ending ( beginning) is something only God knows. I believe He wants is fully trusting Him and to stop listening to people and seek Him ourselves ! I believe when John ate part of the bible , it just may have been the ending… I believe God is fed up with all the judging & labeling of one another & still wants only one thing from us all ….. LOVE 1 another! Intact we might just be here till we do! The 1 st commandment should be our focus ..and when you get that 1,…. It changes everything about yourself ! Think back to the 613 commandments originally they were impossible to do, God knew we couldn’t do them .. He even then only wanted one thing .. Love. This is merely my opinion and we all have them ! If God forgives who are we not to? And only God knows a persons heart! Obedience to God is simply LOVE one another as He does us! Not one can say they deserve what Jesus did, but we all walk around acting like we’re holly spirit jr!! The holy spirit is gentle, kind, patient & does not convict or condem? How could He if we repent .. It says He remembers it no more! If we could focus on love it would change things rapidly! When I stand before Jesus I will only answe for me.. I’d rather stand there and be able to say I trusted Him & done my best to Love like Him. it is written .. It is finished! 6 powerful words that tell me .. It’s DONE.. Gods will , will be done can’t no one stop it! So be kind & encouraging & love one another!

Repent! If for prophesy is to be fulfilled through you then God will be glorified. No wonder christ and Him crucified Gospel have disappeared. The first and the last time I listen to TD Jakes sermon brought a debate in my spirit, until I hear the holy sprirt speaking to me Do not listen to this mans sermons, at first I did not know his roots, until when God opened my eyes to see TD Jakes, behaving like a beast on the pulpit, God forbit! What? He was wearing ear rings at the daughters wedding. Stop following any preacher linked to Money. They have their personal Interest. GOD BE THE JUDGE.

I have been doing a lot of studying and praying and God has brought something to my attention and I wonder if anyone else has considered this thought– according to the bible God created -Male, Female- and said Done. Then said ITS ALL GOOD! He brought to my attention if it was all good— then there was never a SATAN to begin with all this negative s– has been made up by people in our past?????? Because if God did create something “evil” then it contradicts His word from the beginning??? How can God say He hates the devil and then tell us LOVE defeated it??????????? Just wondering if anyone else has ever thought of this and we all have been just going by what we are taught. As children we are READ the word could not read it for ourselves?????Just asking, not trying to start anything or argue with people, this is where my search for the truth as gotten me. And the root of all evil so it states is the LOVE of money?? how can LOVE that conquered evil be a root of anything??? And we live in a country that can PRINT the money out? how can it be a problem… get that sucker to printing!! Just my opinions and God knows we all have them.

42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. – John 8:42-45.

Those are the words of Jesus Christ. Not something made up or fabricated. The Lord testified to the Devil being real and being evil. He is indeed the “father” in a spiritual sense of those who stand condemned before God. Satan’s history goes back before the creation of humanity. So when we see Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden we are entering the middle of a story rather than “the beginning.” Angels existed before humanity. This is why the Devil is already evil in Genesis 3. His fall preceded that chapter.

As for love defeating evil – that’s simple. Since all people stand condemned before God because of our sin, God provided a solution. He sent Jesus Christ – His Son to stand in our place on the witness stand. Jesus Christ took the guilt, shame and punishment for our sins on the cross 2,000 years ago. By taking God’s wrath on Himself Christ earned the right to provide free forgiveness to all who believe and trust in Him.

Why did God do this? Why would He permit God the Son, Jesus Christ, to take on human form, be beaten, mocked and tortured and ultimately killed for our sins? Love. It was out of love for humanity:

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. – John 3:16-17.

We cannot save ourselves. We cannot redeem our own souls. It took someone standing in our place to bring justice for our evil ways. All sins must be punished. The only question is whether you will be punished for them or if you will trust in the finished work of Christ on the cross for your forgiveness.

As for how can “love” be a “root of evil” – I don’t know if you really question that. Obviously there are people who love to abuse children, steal, take drugs and harm women. These are very clear examples of how love can be used in an evil way. We are to direct our love in a Godly way. That is the kind of love that saves souls.

So yes, the love of money is indeed the root of all evil. And many false, apostate pastors of today have used that love to manipulate millions into buying into their false version of Christianity. T.D. Jakes being one of them. So the only real question that remains is do you believe God or do you believe fallen, sinful men? Do not take my word for anything. Look at the Scriptures. Study the Word and pray to God for understanding and humility for the parts of Scripture you may not fully understand yet. God will do all the rest. God bless you abundantly. -B&E

Revelation 2:20, Jezebel’s reputation lives on Jesus speak against the church at Thyatira ” But i have this against you, that tolerate that woman Jezebel who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and seducing my servant to practice sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols, ” but her immorality and idolatry in preying upon God’s people was very Jezebel- like.

Hi to you all brethrens in Jesus Christ,our Saviour.im devastated to note that Bishop T.D Jakes is satanist.collaborating with people who dont acknowledge Jesus Christ like Oprah,shame T.D Jakes.i used to love his sermon on TV or downloading for my laptop.how could you use the bible to blind people who believes in you as their pastor teaching them to go to heaven?

Mathew. 7:21-23, Jesus goes to describe those who will be able to call upon His name on the day of judgment. It will be those who here His words and put them into practice the same ones referred to in verse 21 as those who obediently do the will of the Father in Heaven. True believers are good trees that produce good fruit, Galatians 5: 22-23, The true sheep who look to Christ, depend on Him, commit themselves to Him, Trust in Him, and believe on Him for righteousness, salvation, and eternal life. Those are the one who will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

Guest: It is hard to trust anybody these days. I was disappointed years ago when I read my entire bible for myself from cover to cover and learned these preachers were misusing Malachi 3:8-10 as if those in Christ can be cursed for not being able to give ten percent. Col. 2:14 Jesus nailed every ordinance against us to the cross.

Galatians 3:13 “Christ has redeemed us from the curse… This pretty much proves they were lying about the Malachi old covenant curse that they used to collect their pay. I can’t trust most of them to have my best interest since they are not above quoting Old Covenant curses to collect their wages. Instead of just saying a worker is worthy of their pay and leave it at that.

Oprah believes that “there are millions of ways to God!” I’ve often wondered if she would agree that Jesus Christ is one of those ways. I suspect she would say “yes,” if for no other reason than to be politically correct. However, this question would back her and her apostasy into a corner. You see, if you believe that there are millions of ways to God (including Jesus), and yet Jesus Himself claims that He is the ONLY way to God (“I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” – John 14:6), then Oprah would have to agree that Jesus is either mistaken, or lying! Therefore, wouldn’t she be compelled to EXCLUDE Jesus from the list of millions because of His claim of being “the only way?”

TD Jakes did say to Oprah in an interview (saw it on YouTube) that Jesus Christ is the way, that it is written in the Word. In that same interview he explains why he cannot support gay marriage and gay lifestyles because God does not support it and that it is written in the Word.

Crooks will say anything just as to Political Correctness, so also to Spiritual correctness, but their true intent becomes known when in this case teams up with Oprahs & Obamas, themselves the inheritors of “Sodom” ; Holy Cow.