I thought the Revenge of the Fallen toy line gimmick was to be visible turning gears etc. sort of within the toy while transforming (like in the CGI robots)? Or have I missed some change of info along the way?

Mech Alive would seem a better name for that, than as a new name for Automorph.

Would need to see more of the Prime toy to formulate any real opinions, but the head sculpt at least looks nice.

:up:

RID Scourge

2009-01-02 07:00 PM

Dead End and Knockout look to be my favorites from what we've seen. I'll pass on the other scouts, while reserving judgment on the boat until I see it in color (oddly enough the robot mode makes me think autobot, but that might just be the grey. It could possibly look a lot different in decepticon colors).

SPOILER! (select to read)Soundwave looks all right. Robot mode is cool (reminds me of Tigerhawk a bit), but I'm not sure what his alt mode is.

FAB Megs looks cool, and provides us with a recognizable cybertron alt mode. The rest of the FABs I can take or leave.

Pass on the repaints and remolds. Skywarp looks cool, but I have the mold twice over.

Summerhayes

2009-01-02 07:39 PM

SPOILER! (select to read) just how "rumoured" are the constructicons? Every publication that's written about ROTF has mentioned the Constructicons but from the way people are talking, they sound like a "maybe."

And if they don't combine AND transform: epic fail!

Nevermore

2009-01-02 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by numbat
(Post 639450)

I thought the Revenge of the Fallen toy line gimmick was to be visible turning gears etc. sort of within the toy while transforming (like in the CGI robots)? Or have I missed some change of info along the way?

That would be what "Mech Alive" stands for, methinks.

numbat

2009-01-02 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nevermore
(Post 639462)

That would be what "Mech Alive" stands for, methinks.

That's what I thought.

;)

Catalyst Dragon

2009-01-03 01:36 AM

SPOILER! (select to read)I'd agree that if the constructicons don't combine that it would be a big dissapointment. I also sorta feel that having a combiner may be too big a step to take on a second enstallment. But it sure would be breathtaking.

S_Windell

2009-01-03 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Catalyst Dragon
(Post 639477)

SPOILER! (select to read)I'd agree that if the constructicons don't combine that it would be a big dissapointment. I also sorta feel that having a combiner may be too big a step to take on a second enstallment. But it sure would be breathtaking.

SPOILER! (select to read)No, what I've read rumoured is that the Constructicons do combine in the movie but the toys will be relegated to a) a set of vehicles which combine but no individual bot modes and b)a set with individual bot modes but no combination. (Again, allegedly-rumour-milled stuff, and I could be missing something since this came across to me as "yawn, no surprises here.") One or the other, toy-wise, which would be incredibly lame and lazy on Hasbro's part.

I hate to gripe, especially for something not even past the speculation stage, but I'm a bit tired of the "limits in engineering" or whatnot excuses. Especially for things that were obviously possible over twenty-five years ago...

Treadshot A1

2009-01-03 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by S_Windell
(Post 639500)

SPOILER! (select to read)Especially for things that were obviously possible over twenty-five years ago...

SPOILER! (select to read)Possible maybe. But was it actually any good articulation wise 25 years ago? And look at the complaint about the energon gestalts. two mold repainted each, no hands, no feet, etc, etc. Maybe standards have been set higher.

Though this is not to say i don't care if it doesn't combine or anything; rater, i'd love a combiner, just pointing out a few things. :)

Also, some possible cementation of Whirl's Identity:
N073A0 flipped around? Ovelon, which was the toyline the Whirl mold was originally in.

such as it could be, this seems to be significantly more movie-accurate (at least to the first one, obv). in particular i'm liking the arm detail.

begs two questions:

1. why not first time round? has there been some massive leap in toytech no-one has mentioned? animated has been very innovative, but i can't see it having had such a contribution to design and engineering that this toy wasn't feasible until now... ?

2. who actually designed this, and 2b). does he/she want my babies?

secretcode

2009-01-04 12:01 AM

Another (SEVERELY Mistransformed) shot of the

SPOILER! (select to read)Jetfire/Optimus Prime combination of the Legends toy.

I didn't really enjoy the original Black-Out.. The Lawson one wasn't much better.

Evac, the recolor, was awesome. Better then the Cybertron Ver.

This is nice to in the same vein, but Not better. Not sure if I would buy it as I already have a EVAC in the box, just too cool to open. I'd maybe get Whirl to act as a sacrifical vers. to preserve EVAC.. but I don't know.. It all comes down to how I respond to its visual stimuli when I see it on the shelf. Like the Dorvack nod tho. Hasbro / Takara has been getting pretty good about the fan service.

S_Windell

2009-01-04 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Treadshot A1
(Post 639535)

SPOILER! (select to read)Possible maybe. But was it actually any good articulation wise 25 years ago? And look at the complaint about the energon gestalts. two mold repainted each, no hands, no feet, etc, etc. Maybe standards have been set higher.

Though this is not to say i don't care if it doesn't combine or anything; rater, i'd love a combiner, just pointing out a few things. :)

SPOILER! (select to read)Yes, the old school ones were bricks, but I don't see any reason why articulation can't be introduced into combiners. We've seen it happen. (The Energon ones are good examples. And, to nitpick, the silly prongs that pass as hands and feet are legit complaints, imho. (The box are for the Universe repaint of Bruticus doesn't help.) Though if movie-verse Devastator has these it wouldn't be so ridiculous, going by movie aesthetics.

I'm sorry if I'm coming across as a whiner. Honestly, Devastator is the ROTF character I'm looking most forward to seeing. After that I'll decide on whether or not to get the toy. If he looks good, awesome! If he doesn't, money saved! Win either way. ;)