Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 2:16 pm Post subject: how many bands do you think lie about when they formed?

nargaroth is the most obvious example of this, what are some other bands that have done this for 'kvlt' reasons? or any other reasons, as i'm curious to what other reasons there could be for doing this. i notice tons of bands on metal archives that have formation dates ranging as much as 10 years from the time they first released anything. what is the point? this is fucking stupid, and i think all bands that do this should be investigated and exposed in the same manner that fagoroth has.

A band could tell me they formed back in 1900 and I wouldn't care so long as their music is good. If their beliefs (whether they're satanic, nazi, etc) don't matter to me, why would their alleged date of origin?

A band could tell me they formed back in 1900 and I wouldn't care so long as their music is good. If their beliefs (whether they're satanic, nazi, etc) don't matter to me, why would their alleged date of origin?

I dont care when band was formed - I'm interesd when they start to paly live or relase first demo, or even when they plays first real reh's. For me, if beetwen date of form band and first demo / live is more than two years this is bullshit._________________DOOM010: Necrostuprum / Satanic Torment - Goetes
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I dont care when band was formed - I'm interesd when they start to paly live or relase first demo, or even when they plays first real reh's. For me, if beetwen date of form band and first demo / live is more than two years this is bullshit.

Sometimes it happens that the core of a band will have been writing stuff for say a year or 2 before playing live or releasing anything and this can be due to not being able to find suitable members, or just not wanting to go live or record until they're satisfied with what they make.

Other situations will be that the band just lies dormant for several years and then for various reasons will be able to get something done. Vassafor is such a case._________________www.exordiummors.com

Yeah thats true karimlan. I have at least experienced that a lot of time can pass before something is done. And a lot of crap can happend. The right people are not around, and drummers are never around etc...

One of my bands have this history:
Band formed october 2004... Started making new songs after getting close to 100% well from arm injury may 2006... May 2008 still no demo recorded and not played live... With current drummer only 3 rehersals done without amps breaking down or something else being in the way.. Drummer moved from his rented farm, no rehersal place.

But there is a difference between claiming to have played black metal like Darkthrone since 1989 and not geting shit done in 3-4 years.

Ok, so we can say the band still exist when they do playing live or recording stuff in four years ? Did they ever play a reh? Ok, so at this moment i start new band called T.N.C., first demo will be relased in october 2024 _________________DOOM010: Necrostuprum / Satanic Torment - Goetes
DOOM011: Sabbat - Satanasword
DOOM fuckbookwww.doomzine.bandcamp.com

Ok, so we can say the band still exist when they do playing live or recording stuff in four years ? Did they ever play a reh? Ok, so at this moment i start new band called T.N.C., first demo will be relased in october 2024

I suppose it all depends on the intent of the people involved. On the one hand it's good to be suspicious of what people say since so many are out to be recognized based on who / what they're associated with. Sometimes this involves claiming to have played x style of music as far back as x amount of years ago.

On the other hand isn't this idea called a "band" generally 2 or more persons who create music simply because they want to? Is there a rule that the said music must be exposed to anyone else at all or by a certain date?_________________www.exordiummors.com

Yeah thats true karimlan. I have at least experienced that a lot of time can pass before something is done. And a lot of crap can happend. The right people are not around, and drummers are never around etc...

One of my bands have this history:
Band formed october 2004... Started making new songs after getting close to 100% well from arm injury may 2006... May 2008 still no demo recorded and not played live... With current drummer only 3 rehersals done without amps breaking down or something else being in the way.. Drummer moved from his rented farm, no rehersal place.

But there is a difference between claiming to have played black metal like Darkthrone since 1989 and not geting shit done in 3-4 years.

For me it was band formed in early 2004 and was just 2 guys writing songs in my living room till about the middle of the same year when we got a fill in drummer.

Drummer and bassist came in early 2005, vocalist in mid 2005, 1st gig in mid 2006, demo in early 2007.

New rhythm section in mid 2007 and currently looking for rehearsal space. If we don't get a gig by this Oct. it will have been 2 years of having been silent on the live front.

damn straight it is! haven't you ever heard the phrase 'if you are a false, don't entry."?

A better question is who hasn't seen that phrase or heard that song.

But the thing though is that the date of formation of a band isn't really that important, as what matters to me is the music. If the music is good, I won't give a shit when the band claims to have formed.