cool, i will have a look. all those forums , they are just too restrictive for me. i dont get good along. well i will first only read anyway.
( btw do you know that my best friend is born in your town:)))). )

but actually believing that there is nothing out there that is worth our worries, is only an attempt to forget reality. politics have shown that we do have something to worry about. and especially religions. that is why i hate religions. people we are gonna cut our heads for religions!!!!!!!!!! never forget that. religions are a product of people. god was before religions came. the frequency too.

yeah. may be we can stop the third world war between russia and germany. and she is even jewish. but we can continue in pm or in msn or skype if you want....) here a female moderator starts to warn me about my topics. slowly i have no more absolutely no more want and need of forums. i am so allergic about my freedom. see you somewhere else. i am too allergic slowly. i have to finally move my traffic into my own place and be free there.

"There will be in the next generation or so a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude and producing dictatorship without tears so to speak. Producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda, or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution."- Aldous Huxley, Tavistock Group, California Medical School.

"A new world is emerging in which the social structures will be of a different shape, the social resources of a different scope and caliber, than anything that history records. It is a new deal - in fact a different game with different cards; and we who are now alive are privileged to witness its beginning, however blind most of us may be to its implications for ourselves and our posterity. And for a new age, a new school!" - Sociologist Ross L. Finney

"...there was no point in seeking to convert the intellectuals. For intellectuals would never be converted and would anyway always yield to the stronger, 'and this will always be the man in the street.' Arguments must therefore be crude, clear and forcible, and appeal to emotions and instincts, not the intellect. Truth was unimportant and entirely subordinate to tactics and psychology...Hatred and contempt must be directed at particular individuals." - H. Trevor-Roper, The Goebbels Diaries

We need a program of psycho surgery and political control of our society. The purpose is physical control of the mind. Everyone who deviates from the given norm can be surgically mutilated. The individual may think that the most important reality is his own existence, but this is only his personal point of view. This lacks historical perspective. Man does not have the right to develop his own mind. This kind of liberal orientation has great appeal. We must electrically control the brain. Some day armies and generals will be controlled by electrical stimulation of the brain." - Dr. Jose Delgado

Behind the division of humanity stand those Enlightened Ones whose right and privilege it is to watch over human evolution and to guide the destinies of men…This they do through the implanting of ideas in the minds of the world thinkers, so that these ideas in due time receive recognition and eventually become controlling factors in human life. They train the members of the New Group of World Servers in the task of changing these ideas into ideals. These in turn become the desired objectives of the thinkers and are then taught to the powerful middle class and worked up into world forms of governments or religion, thus forming the basis of the new world order - Alice A. Bailey (Fabian, Occultist, Author. Head of the Lucis Trust)

"Population control is the ultimate form of totalitarianism--the sine qua non of the New World Order. All of the subjects covered thus far in these chronicles including classroom sex instruction, eugenics, abortion, sterilization and birth control, all play an important role in the Master Plan of this world-wide Masonic Interlock. We know of course that ‘population control’ in its ultimate meaning goes far beyond mere State control and regulation of births and deaths (as in euthanasia). It means total control over everyone and everything they do, say, and think." - Population Control: The Final Solution

The Bilderberg membership is made up of Kings, Queens, Princes, Chancellors, Prime Ministers, Presidents, Ambassadors, Secretaries of State, Wall Street investors, international bankers, news media executives, and wealthy industrialists. Their meetings are by ‘invitation only’ and no ‘outsiders’ in the news media are allowed, except by special invitation." - “Who’s Who of the Elite”, by Robert Gaylon Ross, Sr.

I have been convinced that we, as an order, have come under the power of some very evil occult order, profoundly versed in Science, both occult and otherwise, though not infallible, their methods being black magic, that is to say, electromagnetic power, hypnotism, and powerful suggestion. We are convinced that the order is being controled by some Sun Order, after the nature of the Illuminati, if not by that order itself." -Duke of Brunswick, Grand Master of World FreeMasonry

So the gods will depart from mankind – a grievous thing! – and only evil angels will remain, who will mingle with men, and drive the poor wretches by main force into all manner of reckless crime, into wars, and robberies, and frauds, and all things hostile to the nature of the soul…Darkness will be preferred to light, and death will be thought more profitable than life…the pious will be deemed insane, and the impious wise, the madman will be thought a brave man, and the wicked will be esteemed as good. (Hermes Trismegistus)

"...the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology.... The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen. As yet there is only one country which has succeeded in creating this politician’s paradise." Bertrand Russell, “The Impact of Science on Society”

We can accept God becoming Man to save Man, but not Man becoming God to save himself.(Vernon Howard)

We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. (Ephesians 6:12)

The twenty-first century will be the era of the World Controllers…The older dictators fell because they could never supply their subjects with enough bread, enough circuses, enough miracles, and mysteries. Under a scientific dictatorship, education will really work…most men and women will grow up to love their servitude and will never dream of revolution. There seems to be no good reason why a thoroughly scientific dictatorship should ever be overthrown - Aldous Huxley (Brave New World Revisited)

"To repress rebellion is to maintain the status quo, a condition which binds the mortal creature in a state of intellectual or physical slavery. But it is impossible to chain man merely by slaving his body; the mind also must be held, and to accomplish this, fear is the accepted weapon. The common man must fear life, fear death, fear God, fear the Devil, and fear most the overlords, the keepers of his destiny."
- Manly Palmer Hall

The gigantic catastrophes that threaten us today are not elemental happenings of a physical or biological order, but psychic events. To a quite terrifying degree we are threatened by wars and revolutions which are nothing other than psychic epidemics. At any moment several millions of human beings may be smitten with a new madness, and then we shall have another world war or devastating revolution. Instead of being at the mercy of wild beasts, earthquakes, landslides, and modern man is battered by the elemental forces of his own psyche. –Carl Young

It is perfectly possible for a man to be out of prison, and yet not free—to be under no physical constraint and yet to be a psychological captive, compelled to think, feel and act as the representatives of the national state, or of some private interest within the nation, wants him to think, feel and act…The nature of psychological compulsion is such that those who act under constraint remain under the impression that they are acting on their own initiative. The victim of mind-manipulation does not know that he is a victim. To him the walls of his prison are invisible, and he believes himself to be free. That he is not free is apparent only to other people. His servitude is strictly objective.Brave New World Revisited, Aldous Huxley, 1958

The one who cannot see that on Earth a big endeavor is taking place,an important plan, on which realization we are allowed to collaborate as faithful servants, certainly has to be blind - Winston Churchill - (33 Degree Freemason)

After the monarchies have lost their prestige, we will elect Presidents among persons that can be obedient servants. The elected ones must have some black spot in their past in order to be able to keep them silenced because of fear of being discovered by us. At the same time tied by the acquired position of power, enjoying the honors and privileges of a President, make them feel anxious to co-operate, not to loose it".- Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion [1776] - (Illuminati doctrines)

The civilized people believe they have an obligation to bring primitive and underdeveloped people up to their level. Civilization, which is about to self-destruct, thinks of itself as the superior culture that has answers for all the world’s people…. The addict, truly, is a person who is emotionally dependent on things: television, substances, personality routines, other people, mental ideologies, total immersion in some cause or work. If the object of dependency is moved, addicts will experience insecurity, discomfort, distress, the symptoms of withdrawal. (William H. Koettke, The Final Empire)

We all have to be concerned about terrorism, but you will never end terrorism by terrorizing others." - Martin Luther King III

"If we like it or not, we will have a One World Government. The question is if it will be achieved through consent or through conquest"- J. Warburg - (Illuminati and Rothschild banker)

"The Technocratic Age is slowly designing an every day more controlled society. The society will be dominated by an elite of persons free from traditional values (!) who will have no doubt in fulfilling their objectives by means of purged techniques with which they will influence the behavior of people and will control and watch the society in all details". "... it will become possible to exert a practically permanent watch on each citizen of the world".- Zbigniew Brzezinski - (Illuminati and co-founder of Trilateral Commission)

By the invincible power of traditional subservience, the inertia of the general mind, enhanced by the gullibility of ignorance, the masses have slipped under the force of a victimization that is both pitiable and tragic. The forces of religion have thus exerted their rulership over a vast segment of humanity and virtually provided the masses with their conventional ideas and concepts as to the meaning of the world ordeal. (Alvin Boyd Kuhn, Ultimate Canon of Knowledge)

"The aim of public education is not to spread enlightenment at all; it is simply to reduce as many individuals as possible to the same safe level, to breed a standard citizenry, to put down dissent and originality. School days, I believe, are the unhappiest in the whole span of human existence. They are full of dull, unintelligible tasks, new and unpleasant ordinances, and brutal violations of common sense and common decency." - H.L. Mencken

We reproduce catastrophe because we ourselves are traumatized – both as a species and individually, beginning at birth. Because we are wounded, we have put up psychic defenses against reality and have become so cut off from direct participation in the multidimensional wilderness in which we are embedded that all we can do is to navigate our way cautiously through a humanly designed day-to-day substitute world of symbol— a world of dollars, minutes, numbers, images and words that are constantly being manipulated to wring the most possible profit from every conceivable circumstance. The body and spirit both rebel. (David Watson, The Pathology of Civilization)

The new slaves are linked together by vast electronic chains of television that imprison not their bodies but their minds. Their desires are programed, their tastes manipulated, their values set for them. Where man was chained to a living master, the new slave has become a digit, a mere item of production that is expended by an invisible master without heart or soul." - Gerry Spence, "From Freedom to Slavery"

Without self knowledge, without understanding the working and functions of his machine, man cannot be free, he cannot govern himself and he will always remain a slave." - George Gurdjieff

The great strength of our Order lies in its concealment: let it never appear in any place in its own name, but always covered by another name, and another occupation. None is fitter than the three lower degrees of Free Masonry; the public is accustomed to it, expect little from it, and therefore takes little notice of it. Next to this, the form of a learned or literary society is best suited to our purpose, and had Free Masonry not existed, this cover would have been employed; and it may be much more than a cover, it may be a powerful engine in our hands. By establishing reading societies, and subscription libraries… we may turn the public mind which way we will. In like manner we must try to obtain an influence in… all offices which have any effect, either in forming, or in managing, or even in directing the mind of man."- John Robison in "Proofs of Conspiracy", relaying the words of Adam Weishaupt (founder of the modern Illuminati & Rothschild puppet) on the need to hide Illuminati goals inside Freemasonry's "Outer Order" of those unknowledgeable of the elite plan for a One World Government

The explorers who opened the New World operated from a master plan and were agents of re-discovery rather then discoverers. Time will reveal that the continent now known as America was actually discovered and, to a considerable degree, explored more than a thousand years before the beginning of the Christian era. The true story was in the keeping of the Mystery Schools, and passed from them to the Secret Societies of the Medieval world. The Esoteric Orders of Europe, Asia, and the Near East were in at least irregular communication with the priesthoods of the more advanced Amerindian nations. Plans for the development of the Western Hemisphere were formulated in Alexandria, Mecca, Delhi, and Lhasa (in Tibet) long before most European statesmen were aware of the great Utopian program - Manly P. Hall

the world is in crisis. fully.
i did not follow much of the political changes in 2008 because i was for quite a long time in the mountains and beaches this year...but now after coming back to society and after some social drop out attitude at parties in december, i start to realize where we were up to in the last three months. full economical crisis. worldwide. it is just the start. weishaupt had a bigger plan...
the whole economy...most of the industries...everything collapses. especially in the last three months.

Tinaaaaa Dis World is a place where each an every single one of us is Born in some kind of Martix ... by matrix i mean every one who is born is Tied!!!!!!! Tied into a relationship [lik ur parents ,ur family etc] , a obligation [ur job , ur responsibilities etc ] an its this matrix that acts like a gravitational force which pulls ur soul back , ur soul which actually belongs to space [the cosmo] !!!!

i totaly agree to kris cauz today i have enough troubles in my 20 yr old brain already to worry abt war , i have to study an get a job in future , this recession [job cutdown,global finance fiasco] is doing people no good either tonight if i want a date to go out and have a drink with , there are million material requirments u see like money , car , own appartments etc etcccc im totaly bugged up wid dis worldly shit ey

why does a country need to spend billions of dollors on weapons while some of its people don have even money to buy food !!!!
every grain of rice that people eat takes 6 months to harvest an less than 6 secs to eat

if third world war actually does happen like u predict , il actually be happy cauz it will prove how stupid 90% of the world people are !!!!!!!!

yes, i have enough troubles in my old 28 year old head too. may be even more than you, because you are young, and dont have some problems that come waith the age, like no inspiration or no believe in love any more or no money from parents or no young body any more and all that stuff, you know.... but nevertheless what if the financial crisis gets worse than it is, what if it is gonna be the biggest financial crisis that the world knows, since the beginning of the last century?

The brighter the light,the darker the shadow..
I would be very sad if I was going to take in all the "fear-salad" (works better in norwegian)they serve up to make you feel small and insignificant.
Anyway who can afford to hang their head with shit up to the neck.

Fearbased control only works if we are afraid..Dont let them shut your thoughts down by applying to the biosurvivalcenter of the brain..

what about using weed instead of money.. what about encrypted money?
Us humanoid looking ones can be awfully creative sometimes.