Excuse my computer illiterateness here but I just got my wife's old lap top and I want to put all the music from my ipod onto it and I can't for the life of me figure out how. Is there a way to download everything from my ipod into itunes?

If it's one of the old iPod videos, I'm pretty sure you can do that if you've Rockboxed it.

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Empyreal wrote:

Yup, they ripped off Metal Church. Now that you've solved that mystery, Metallica is now dethroned from their place in metal history and will be safely forgotten forever. Good job!

I've been trying out a lot of different albums. Mostly essentials and stuff, and a lot of /mu/ core and stuff. I like the classics, and I like in the aeroplane over the sea and my bloody valentine's loveless, and stuff like that. My issue that I have is I feel like I reach a dead end after I've found any of these albums. Where are the doors within these albums that lead to other albums? How can I listen to jazz one minute, then listen to low fi indie, then listen to shoegaze etc, and then actually get into things besides the most entry level of albums? I see this a lot on /mu/. People only listen to things that are on the /mu/ list, and the reason they are all so closed minded about metal, of all things, is because they're closed minded, because they're used to listening to music like it's an assortment of chocolates. You pick up one, you try it, then next time you try something completely different. I'm not used to listening to music like that. I long for another genre of music where I can explore as widely, and deeply as metal. I've seen it said before, that metal is more like an acquired tasted. I think it certainly is, except I find that the more I get into it, the more I find, and boy do I find a lot. That's why I have over 600 artists in my last fm. Not because I go through mountains of chocolate boxes, like I was forest gump, and his analogy of life, hehe.

I've been trying out a lot of different albums. Mostly essentials and stuff, and a lot of /mu/ core and stuff. I like the classics, and I like in the aeroplane over the sea and my bloody valentine's loveless, and stuff like that. My issue that I have is I feel like I reach a dead end after I've found any of these albums. Where are the doors within these albums that lead to other albums? How can I listen to jazz one minute, then listen to low fi indie, then listen to shoegaze etc, and then actually get into things besides the most entry level of albums? I see this a lot on /mu/. People only listen to things that are on the /mu/ list, and the reason they are all so closed minded about metal, of all things, is because they're closed minded, because they're used to listening to music like it's an assortment of chocolates. You pick up one, you try it, then next time you try something completely different. I'm not used to listening to music like that. I long for another genre of music where I can explore as widely, and deeply as metal. I've seen it said before, that metal is more like an acquired tasted. I think it certainly is, except I find that the more I get into it, the more I find, and boy do I find a lot. That's why I have over 600 artists in my last fm. Not because I go through mountains of chocolate boxes, like I was forest gump, and his analogy of life, hehe.

I try to pay attention to some /mu/core, as I've found a lot of artists that I've really enjoyed (Such as like you mentioned, Neutral Milk Hotel and My Bloody Valentine). I also try not to fuck around with /mu/ too much, as each time I go on I feel like rearranging and deleting half the stuff on my music library.

I've been trying out a lot of different albums. Mostly essentials and stuff, and a lot of /mu/ core and stuff. I like the classics, and I like in the aeroplane over the sea and my bloody valentine's loveless, and stuff like that. My issue that I have is I feel like I reach a dead end after I've found any of these albums. Where are the doors within these albums that lead to other albums? How can I listen to jazz one minute, then listen to low fi indie, then listen to shoegaze etc, and then actually get into things besides the most entry level of albums? I see this a lot on /mu/. People only listen to things that are on the /mu/ list, and the reason they are all so closed minded about metal, of all things, is because they're closed minded, because they're used to listening to music like it's an assortment of chocolates. You pick up one, you try it, then next time you try something completely different. I'm not used to listening to music like that. I long for another genre of music where I can explore as widely, and deeply as metal. I've seen it said before, that metal is more like an acquired tasted. I think it certainly is, except I find that the more I get into it, the more I find, and boy do I find a lot. That's why I have over 600 artists in my last fm. Not because I go through mountains of chocolate boxes, like I was forest gump, and his analogy of life, hehe.

I try to pay attention to some /mu/core, as I've found a lot of artists that I've really enjoyed (Such as like you mentioned, Neutral Milk Hotel and My Bloody Valentine). I also try not to fuck around with /mu/ too much, as each time I go on I feel like rearranging and deleting half the stuff on my music library.

Not to mention everyone on /mu/ probably has ADHD. None of them ever read long and thoughtful responses. They're all too quick to just jump straight to trolling. It's pretty much a website dedicated to trolling, I noticed. I don't really like the website either. I was trying to get into it for like a week and I pretty much hate it now. They're good for the laughs though.

Not to mention most of them have superiority complexes. Yeah I've been on for a few years but I've found myself just going on less and less. I just feel like there's nothing new or interesting anymore. Even the laughs have tapered off which is weird.

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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:03 pm

Empyreal wrote:

Xlxlx wrote:

Listening to Danzig's How the Gods Kill right now. Man, I had forgotten how awesome this album was! Rocking, bluesy, dark goodness with the man himself crooning and wailing like a madman. Anyone else here who happens to be into early Danzig?

I love his debut, but then the second one just never clicks with me at all. I didn't check out anything after that because of this...I should though, I hear there are some really good albums.

Weird that you don't like Lucifuge, man. I personally consider it an improvement over the debut (though I do think that his first album is rather good on its own). Anyway, do check out the next two after Lucifuge. They're great, especially How the Gods Kill. That one is just chock full of dark, rocking goodness.

I've been trying out a lot of different albums. Mostly essentials and stuff, and a lot of /mu/ core and stuff. I like the classics, and I like in the aeroplane over the sea and my bloody valentine's loveless, and stuff like that. My issue that I have is I feel like I reach a dead end after I've found any of these albums. Where are the doors within these albums that lead to other albums? How can I listen to jazz one minute, then listen to low fi indie, then listen to shoegaze etc, and then actually get into things besides the most entry level of albums? I see this a lot on /mu/. People only listen to things that are on the /mu/ list, and the reason they are all so closed minded about metal, of all things, is because they're closed minded, because they're used to listening to music like it's an assortment of chocolates. You pick up one, you try it, then next time you try something completely different. I'm not used to listening to music like that. I long for another genre of music where I can explore as widely, and deeply as metal. I've seen it said before, that metal is more like an acquired tasted. I think it certainly is, except I find that the more I get into it, the more I find, and boy do I find a lot. That's why I have over 600 artists in my last fm. Not because I go through mountains of chocolate boxes, like I was forest gump, and his analogy of life, hehe.

I try to pay attention to some /mu/core, as I've found a lot of artists that I've really enjoyed (Such as like you mentioned, Neutral Milk Hotel and My Bloody Valentine). I also try not to fuck around with /mu/ too much, as each time I go on I feel like rearranging and deleting half the stuff on my music library.

Why would you feel like rearranging your music library? You shouldn't take what those fucks say seriously about your taste, whatever it may be. The only person who should be making decisions about what you should listen to is you, unless you're asking for recommendations or something.

The funniest thing about /mu/core, is that the list was originally made to troll people into listening to bad music. I mean, who do you know that actually listens to Neutral Milk Hotel?

That's a little weird. I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from when you say that the list was designed to troll people. I actually think Neutral Milk Hotel is pretty cool. What would you consider 'good music'? Don't say metal, because that's too obvious.

Very true. I've grown a spine since last being on there. Going to re-download a bunch of stuff I got rid of (i.e. Skeletonwitch) when I get home. I got rid of it because I felt like I wasn't listening to a 'quality' band (which I realize now is absolute bullshit coupled with the fact that I had a tendency to follow /mu/ to the t) and that there were 'superior' bands to be listening to. But I guess there shouldn't be any boundaries for myself at all when listening to metal. I shouldn't be following some hipsters who think they're better than everyone else.

iAm wrote:

The funniest thing about /mu/core, is that the list was originally made to troll people into listening to bad music. I mean, who do you know that actually listens to Neutral Milk Hotel?

Haha, I don't doubt it. I know a couple people who listen to NMH actually. They're not the best band but I like their style.

Very true. I've grown a spine since last being on there. Going to re-download a bunch of stuff I got rid of (i.e. Skeletonwitch) when I get home. I got rid of it because I felt like I wasn't listening to a 'quality' band (which I realize now is absolute bullshit coupled with the fact that I had a tendency to follow /mu/ to the t) and that there were 'superior' bands to be listening to. But I guess there shouldn't be any boundaries for myself at all when listening to metal. I shouldn't be following some hipsters who think they're better than everyone else.

Absolutely! You should listen to bands that you like, and not to mention skeletonwitch is awesome! /mu/ are complete buttholes when it comes to listening to metal, of all music. I learned that throughout the time I've been there. When people say metal is crap, what they're concealing is the fact that they know nothing about it. They're trolling you. It took me a while to understand that a lot of people there are trolls, so no need to feel like they got to you or anything.

Very true. I've grown a spine since last being on there. Going to re-download a bunch of stuff I got rid of (i.e. Skeletonwitch) when I get home. I got rid of it because I felt like I wasn't listening to a 'quality' band (which I realize now is absolute bullshit coupled with the fact that I had a tendency to follow /mu/ to the t) and that there were 'superior' bands to be listening to. But I guess there shouldn't be any boundaries for myself at all when listening to metal. I shouldn't be following some hipsters who think they're better than everyone else.

Absolutely! You should listen to bands that you like, and not to mention skeletonwitch is awesome! /mu/ are complete buttholes when it comes to listening to metal, of all music. I learned that throughout the time I've been there. When people say metal is crap, what they're concealing is the fact that they know nothing about it. They're trolling you. It took me a while to understand that a lot of people there are trolls, so no need to feel like they got to you or anything.

Of course, 4chan is full of trolls...let alone the /mu/ threads. It had it's fair share of glory back in the day but then I stopped visiting 4chan in 2008-09 coz I felt it was a complete waste of time. It's difficult to find good recommendations on such boards...even reddit/metal isn't too great, still worth a look if you're looking for mainstream metal/info/news.

The funniest thing about /mu/core, is that the list was originally made to troll people into listening to bad music. I mean, who do you know that actually listens to Neutral Milk Hotel?

That's a little weird. I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from when you say that the list was designed to troll people. I actually think Neutral Milk Hotel is pretty cool. What would you consider 'good music'? Don't say metal, because that's too obvious.

When I used to browse 4chan years ago that list was compromised of "unlistenable" music like Merzbow and what not to troll new comers asking for generic recommendations. I actually like a NMH side project called A Hawk And A Hacksaw, but as far as NMH goes that's just not my thing... It's too... I dunno. Pretentious? Weird? I'm at a loss finding an adjective to describe how I feel about them.

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Empyreal wrote:

Yup, they ripped off Metal Church. Now that you've solved that mystery, Metallica is now dethroned from their place in metal history and will be safely forgotten forever. Good job!

That's a little weird. I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from when you say that the list was designed to troll people. I actually think Neutral Milk Hotel is pretty cool. What would you consider 'good music'? Don't say metal, because that's too obvious.

When I used to browse 4chan years ago that list was compromised of "unlistenable" music like Merzbow and what not to troll new comers asking for generic recommendations. I actually like a NMH side project called A Hawk And A Hacksaw, but as far as NMH goes that's just not my thing... It's too... I dunno. Pretentious? Weird? I'm at a loss finding an adjective to describe how I feel about them.

Maybe it's just me, but NMH came off as extremely boring the few times I've listened to them.

I tried starting a discussion in a metal thread on /mu/ once. Got a few good responses and interesting opinions but they were drowned out by neckbeards accusing some girl (or guy pretender) of being a disgusting-looking attention whore.

When I used to browse 4chan years ago that list was compromised of "unlistenable" music like Merzbow and what not to troll new comers asking for generic recommendations. I actually like a NMH side project called A Hawk And A Hacksaw, but as far as NMH goes that's just not my thing... It's too... I dunno. Pretentious? Weird? I'm at a loss finding an adjective to describe how I feel about them.

Maybe it's just me, but NMH came off as extremely boring the few times I've listened to them.

They are boring. I tried listening to them because of the company I kept long time ago. They were into indie/folk/etcetera. The only bearable track for me was 'In the aeroplane over the sea' track that Necro mentioned. I don't know if they can be called pretentious though. Their music is a bit on the weird side and that's probably why the band receives a lot posthumous worship from self-proclaimed-non-conformist hipster douches.

I tried starting a discussion in a metal thread on /mu/ once. Got a few good responses and interesting opinions but they were drowned out by neckbeards accusing some girl (or guy pretender) of being a disgusting-looking attention whore.

Yeah, don't go to /mu/.

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Empyreal wrote:

Yup, they ripped off Metal Church. Now that you've solved that mystery, Metallica is now dethroned from their place in metal history and will be safely forgotten forever. Good job!

Weird that you don't like Lucifuge, man. I personally consider it an improvement over the debut (though I do think that his first album is rather good on its own). Anyway, do check out the next two after Lucifuge. They're great, especially How the Gods Kill. That one is just chock full of dark, rocking goodness.

Yeah, I dunno, Lucifuge sounds exactly like the debut, but the songwriting just isn't there for me. I liked it the first time I heard it but then could never really finish the whole album afterwards.

And I never cared about the whole indie/hipster anything. Neutral Milk Hotel is pretty great actually. It's mood music and I'm not always totally into it, but sometimes that album is incredibly powerful.

Gillan is such a criminally underrated band, I never see any discussion about them. Glory Road and Future shock are great albums.

Also I bought psychocandy the other day, and listening to it now it's really great, way more going on in it than I remember. Also what's /mu/core and what do MBV have to do with it? I got into them through just exploring shoegaze when bands listed it as an influence.

Way to overreact. Imo it wasn't as much NOPE as you make it seem. Interesting rather. But then again I just played two campaigns of L4D2 while listening to grindcore. I'm pretty much emotionally numb at this point.

That's Xlxlx's thing, inhumanist. He takes everything to 11. I expect one of his posts in the near future to be something like this : '' I ate some chips today and they were FUCKING DELICIOUS! They were no regular chips, these were super expensive chips that give every single one of your taste buds 47 orgasms with every bite! It was the best day ever!''

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So good. Makes me want to break up with my girlfriend, quit my job and never move out of my parents house. Just totally destroy my life for Satan.