Invasion: The Movie

The good folks at Politics of Prudence sent me a link to the reconquista/aztlan video that the courageous, tireless Minuteman who maintains Immigration Watchdog shot at Los Angeles' March 25 Gran Marcha. He put it together with English-language speeches given over the years by reconquista leaders who either spoke only in Spanish at the march, or who uttered only safe platitudes that day (as if the mainstream media would have honestly reported on seditious speeches given in English!)

If you have been reading up on illegal immigration/reconquista/aztlan, you may have read the text of some or all of the speeches in the video. I already had, before viewing it. And yet, somehow, hearing the same words spoken aloud provoked in me a more visceral response.

David Orland, sole blogtender of faut de pire and one of the team (with Michelle Malkin, Juan Mann, Bonnie Eggle, Peter Gadiel, Chris Kelly, Heather Mac Donald, and Bryan Preston) that tends The Immigration Blog, felt similarly. David wrote:

My reaction was much the same as yours: I've read all that stuff before but hearing it spoken, often in a voice quivering with hatred, is deeply disturbing, even pornographic.

"Pornographic." That's the best description I've heard of the frenzied racist hatred motivating the reconquista/aztlan movement.

I think it’s a bit extreme to call the Minutemen racist as you do in the last paragraph. Sure, some of them are former Nazis and KKK members, but they do have a valid point to make.

As for La Reconquista, thank god they’re not representative of the immigrant population as a whole, and just of a minority of people – mostly US citizens – who are carried away with marxist rhetoric and misguided ethno-nationalism.

They’re their own worst enemies, since they do more to harm the efforts to find a rational solution to the immigration problem than all the 12 million eager-to-work immigrants put together.

Dave

http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/ Nicholas Stix

Dave, go back and re-read my last paragraph.

As for your line about “the 12 million eager-to-work immigrants,” did that one come from the RNC Web site?

http://www.culturesalad.blogspot.com Ray Ellis

I have no problem whatsoever in saying that both the Minutemen and La Reconquista are rooted in racism. I may oftentime come across as a left-wing pinko liberal, but I have enough street smarts to know that gangs are gangs, and little, if any, good can come of them.
The whole immigration debate has devolved into hateful rhetoric from all angles. If we don’t take a deep breath here, and soon, it may spiral out of control.

http://musical-guru.blogspot.com Michael J. West

See if you have the same reaction

Well, I think I can safely say that my reaction was, “Huh. Typical propaganda.” Images and audio snippets taken out of context and stitched together so that they all seem to adhere to one theme. Designed to make the Reconquista movement to appear as something it is not: that is, as a movement of substantial size and influence that has a chance of “reclaiming” a single square inch of land from the United States.

http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/ Nicholas Stix

Stix earlier: Dave, go back and re-read my last paragraph.

Dave Nalle: Oh,, sorry. I just assumed the paragraph made sense. Turns out it’s some sort of goofy xenophobic ranting instead.

So, Hispanics can be as racist as they wanna be, but if whites should point it out, that makes them “xenophobic.” Right.

Stix earlier: As for your line about “the 12 million eager-to-work immigrants,” did that one come from the RNC Web site?

Dave Nalle: No, it’s all mine, but I’ll suggest it to Ken next time we chat.

Dave

You do that, Dave, you two have much to chat about, LOL.

http://www.elitistpig.com Dave Nalle

See Michael, the extreme right CAN learn something from Michael Moore. He’s not just a fat useless boil on society’s bum.

And Nix, I plan to stalk Ken by hanging out around the gay bars in my old neighborhood off P St. in DC. I imagine I’ll spot him in a matter of days.

Dave

Ruvy in Jerusalem

“… from Michael Moore. He’s not just a fat useless boil on society’s bum.”

Dave, that it a boss rank out if I’ve ever read one; a great line about Michael Moore to steal if I’ve ever seen one…

[and Ruvy puts on his blck gloves to acquire one more item before going to bed…]

http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/ Nicholas Stix

Stix: See if you have the same reaction

Michael J West: Well, I think I can safely say that my reaction was, “Huh. Typical propaganda.” Images and audio snippets taken out of context and stitched together so that they all seem to adhere to one theme. Designed to make the Reconquista movement to appear as something it is not: that is, as a movement of substantial size and influence that has a chance of “reclaiming” a single square inch of land from the United States.

I don’t see where you get the claim that the video took “Images and audio snippets … out of context.” If you know something about the communists and mestizo supremacists, with a few ugly exceptions, showing love and tolerance for the Minutemen, please do tell!

Reconquista may not be a large movement, but it has plenty of influence, as it takes over one office, one school, and one college at a time. If an amnesty is granted, reconquista will see its power grow tenfold.

Hispanic nationalism has been growing since 1968. For you to deny its influence is either due to willfuil ignorance or your supporting it.

http://musical-guru.blogspot.com/ Michael J. West

Reconquista may not be a large movement, but it has plenty of influence…

Hispanic nationalism has been growing since 1968. For you to deny its influence is either due to willfuil ignorance or your supporting it.

Ahhh, I see. You are under the impression that Hispanic nationalism and the Reconquista movement are one and the same.

They are not. Not by a longshot.

Good God, even the Chicano Student Movement of Aztlán is not part of the Reconquista movement, save for a tiny, tiny faction of extremists within the organization.

Hispanic nationalism has the goal of promoting cultural and social unity, civil rights, and pride in Hispanic heritage. That’s it. That’s all.

http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/ Nicholas Stix

Michael J. West: Good God, even the Chicano Student Movement of Aztlán is not part of the Reconquista movement, save for a tiny, tiny faction of extremists within the organization.

That’s like saying that “save for a tiny, tiny faction of extremists within the organization,” the National Alliance is not part of the neo-Nazi movement.

Why did you use a term that few people have heard of, and that even I didn’t recognize at first? The name the “Chicano Student Movement of Aztlán” is known as is “MEChA.”

Not only is MEChA reconquista, they are the reconquista’s brownshirts!

Hispanic nationalism has the goal of promoting cultural and social unity, civil rights, and pride in Hispanic heritage. That’s it. That’s all.

Yeah, right. And the Nation of Islam and the New Black Panther Party are just about black unity and civil rights.

What is for you the lure of mestizo racial supremacism, Michael?

http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/ Nicholas Stix

Dave Nalle: And Nix, I plan to stalk Ken by hanging out around the gay bars in my old neighborhood off P St. in DC. I imagine I’ll spot him in a matter of days.

Dave

Now, if a Republican talked that way, it would be denounced as gay-baiting.

http://musical-guru.blogspot.com Michael J. West

Funny enough, I used your Google search, and the official MECha page was the first that popped up. So I followed that, went to their FAQ, and here was the third entry on that page.

Does MEChA want the Southwest part of the US to become part of Mexico?
This is probably the most ridiculous question and the biggest untruth put out by the racist anti-immigration groups. No MEChA group wants to overthrow the US or put the Southwest under Mexico. In fact, most Chicanos and Mexicans know that Mexico is a country suffering from serious political and economic problems. Why do you think Mexicans are leaving their country? The US has its problems but it is still the country that has a very fair political system and does a fairly good job in respecting human rights. Most MEChA members are just trying to get an education and stay politically active to help other latinos. These days with the universities getting more expensive it is hard enough just to hold some part time job and go to school. The overwhelming number of Latinos are struggling economically in college. There is no time, let alone desire, to overthrow the US. Most Chicanos find it astonishing that anyone would believe that MEChA members are really actually thinking or are making plans for overthrowing the US. MEChA members do not participate in or plan any violent protests. Ask the racist organizations out there to offer any kind of proof that MEChA has participated in violent acts. MEChA is a peaceful and law abiding organization.

I don’t, of course, expect you to give that a second of consideration, Nicholas, but there it is for anyone else to see.

http://musical-guru.blogspot.com Michael J. West

Dave:

gay bars in my old neighborhood off P St. in DC.

Dupont Circle or Logan Circle?

http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/ Nicholas Stix

Nice try, Michael. MEChA has had very different Web pages in the past, but they put in this nonsense when they were hit with negative publicity, just as the Reconquista school in LA got rid of the Web page that said that they did not teach in English, when it came under investigation for having a reporter assaulted and robbed of his tape.

http://musical-guru.blogspot.com Michael J. West

Uh-huh.

http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/ Nicholas Stix

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Bustamante, MEChA and the media
Now that Democrat Cruz Bustamante is California’s gubernatorial recall front-runner, we can look forward to in-depth media investigations of the Latino candidate’s long-held ties to the racial separat

Aug 20, 2003
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Now that Democrat Cruz Bustamante is California’s gubernatorial recall front-runner, we can look forward to in-depth media investigations of the Latino candidate’s long-held ties to the racial separatist group MEChA, right?

Ha.

While Katie Couric complains about GOP candidate Arnold Schwarzenegger being “the son of a Nazi party member” and international media outlets assail Schwarzenegger adviser Pete Wilson as “anti-immigrant” and “racially divisive,” the liberal press has been stone-cold silent on Bustamante’s connection to one of the nation’s most virulently racist organizations.

As a student at Fresno State University in the 1970s, Bustamante was an active member of the Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or MEChA, which stands for the Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan. Bustamante repeatedly denies having a “radical ethnic agenda,” but has refused to disassociate himself from his Mechista roots. In fact, Bustamante recently returned to Fresno State for a separate Latino commencement ceremony founded by two of his Chicano activist classmates.

MEChA has been dismissed by some as a harmless social club, but it operates an identity politics indoctrination machine on publicly subsidized college and high school campuses nationwide that would make David Duke and the KKK turn green with envy. MEChA members in the University of California system have rioted in Los Angeles, editorialized that federal immigration “pigs should be killed, every single one” in San Diego, and are suspected of breaking into a conservative student publication’s offices and stealing its entire print run in Berkeley.

MEChA’s symbol is an eagle clutching a dynamite stick and machete-like weapon in its claws; its motto is ” Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada (For the Race, everything. For those outside the Race, nothing).” The MEChA Constitution calls on members to “promote Chicanismo within the community, politicizing our Raza (race) with an emphasis on indigenous consciousness to continue the struggle for the self-determination of the Chicano people for the purpose of liberating Aztlan.” “Aztlan” is the group’s term for the vast southwestern U.S. expanse, from parts of Washington and Oregon down to California and Arizona and over to Texas, which MEChA claims to be a mythical homeland and seeks to reconquer for Mexico ( reconquista ).

“We do not recognize capricious frontiers on the bronze continent. Brotherhood unites us, and love for our brothers makes us a people whose time has come and who struggles against the foreigner ‘gabacho’ who exploits our riches and destroys our culture. With our heart in our hands and our hands in the soil, we declare the independence of our mestizo nation. We are a bronze people with a bronze culture.”

Substitute “Aryan” for “mestizo” and “white” for “bronze.” Not much difference between the nutty philosophy of Bustamante’s MEChA and Papa Schwarzenegger’s evil Nazi Party. To date, however, the only exposure Bustamante’s MEChA history has received has been on the Internet.

In a critical article on Bustamante published by David Horowitz’s FrontPage Magazine.com last week, Lowell Ponte notes that “Like Nazism, MEChA has acquired more than a tinge of racism. In their tactics to advance Latinos and ‘La Raza,’ many of its activists have directed racist attacks against not only white-skinned Anglos but also against blacks, Asian-Americans and Jews — in fact, against every non-Latino group.”

Popular Internet blogger Tacitus points out: “It’s tempting to dismiss this as a youthful affiliation that means nothing today — but that temptation would be wrong. There are certain associations that are socially tainting (and justly so) in the modern day, and they don’t have statutes of limitations. Former Klansmen and former Nazis don’t get a pass unless they spend a great deal of time and energy apologizing for and explaining themselves in a convincing manner.”

Why should Bustamante, a public figure already known to have used a racial epithet in the past (he infamously used the word “nigger” while addressing a Black History Month event two years ago) get a pass? Or, for that matter, former California State Assembly Speaker and Los Angeles mayoral candidate Antonio Villaraigosa, State Assemblyman Gil Cadillo, State Sen. Joe Baca, and Arizona Congressman Raul Grijalva — all unapologetic Mechistas?

Ms. Couric, I know you’ll get to the bottom of this. They don’t call you Hardball Katie for nothing.

http://musical-guru.blogspot.com Michael J. West

Nicholas, you do not lend credibility to your case by citing Michelle Malkin, of all people.

http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/ Nicholas Stix

Michael, how on earth could it hurt my credibility to cite one of the most credible journalists of all people presently working in the English language? If you know of a single case of Michelle Malkin being exposed as dishonest, please let me know.

http://www.elitistpig.com Dave Nalle

Nix, you’re right on Mecha. I went to their site once when it was still full of rabid racist rhetoric. But fun though Malkin is, she has been caught out on some boners – but then what reporter hasn’t?

Dave

zingzing

why react to a faction’s racism by becoming racist yourself? heck, even if mexico does take back certain parts of the country, what do they get? texas? thank god. the southwest? eh… it’s a fuckin desert. (react away).

stix, you are playing right into racism’s trap. there are white supremicists out there, there are mexican reconquistas out there, there are black panthers out there, radical islam, etc, etc, etc. but the rest of us just want to go about our lives, and are perfectly fine living together and having a nice time. so don’t fuck it up trying to spread hatred. yes, mexican racism exists. so what? of course it does. big fuckin surprise. next up, the oceans are warm on top, colder a few feet down, and really cold at the bottom. thanks, man!

zingzing

haha. stix sent this shit to michelle malkin! yipee! one of your heroes, i presume!?

http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/ Nicholas Stix

zingzing: why react to a faction’s racism by becoming racist yourself? heck, even if mexico does take back certain parts of the country, what do they get? texas? thank god. the southwest? eh… it’s a fuckin desert. (react away).

stix, you are playing right into racism’s trap. there are white supremicists out there, there are mexican reconquistas out there, there are black panthers out there, radical islam, etc, etc, etc. but the rest of us just want to go about our lives, and are perfectly fine living together and having a nice time. so don’t fuck it up trying to spread hatred. yes, mexican racism exists. so what? of course it does. big fuckin surprise. next up, the oceans are warm on top, colder a few feet down, and really cold at the bottom. thanks, man!

“the rest of us just want to go about our lives, and are perfectly fine living together and having a nice time.”

Well, zing, those once were exactly my sentiments, and if this were say, 1956, perhaps we’d be able to live according to them. But it’s 2006, so you’re 50 years late.

Fighting racial supremacy and invasion does not make one a racial supremcist. Your logic suggests that a policeman who goes after a bank robber himself becomes a bank robber. And anti-white racism is too pervasive to ignore anymore. In places like New York, every white and Asian has either been victimized by it, or knows or has witnessed whites or Asians who were. Thus, doing nothing about it means becoming complicit in it.

P.S. If you look at the cover of the Aztlan book I listed, you’ll see that the reconquistas are not satisfied to just take Texas. They demand about 40 percent of the contiguous 48, reaching all the way up to Washington State.

Clavos

P.S. If you look at the cover of the Aztlan book I listed, you’ll see that the reconquistas are not satisfied to just take Texas. They demand about 40 percent of the contiguous 48, reaching all the way up to Washington State.

So what? You don’t seriously think they’ll actually be able to do so, do you? They’re a bunch of wild-eyed radicals with no appreciable support even among the rest of the Mexican-Americans let alone the non-Mexican Latino population, and certainly not among the Anglo populations of the states they covet.

Let’s prosecute them for racist attacks under the hate crimes laws, and certainly keep a close eye on their ringleaders and expose the rest for the racists they are, but take back “Aztlan”? No lo creo.

http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/ Nicholas Stix

zingzing: haha. stix sent this shit to michelle malkin! yipee! one of your heroes, i presume!?

I wouldn’t necessarily call her one of my heroes, but she is certainly a heroic lady, is one of the few syndicated columnists that is worth a damn, and I have already stated my admiration for her on this thread.

However, the fact that I sent her the link to the video would hardly suffice to