The Mint’s final product scheduled for 2017 to go on sale December 5 at noon

The final product the Mint has scheduled for 2017 is the George Rogers Clark National Historical Park 2017 Uncirculated Five Ounce Silver Coin from the Philadelphia Mint. There will be no household order or product limits, but the mintage limit is 25,000. The coin, and corresponding national park, honor the bravery and actions of Lieutenant Colonel George Rogers Clark and his men who fought valiantly during the American Revolution. Clark’s unexpected capture of Fort Sackville is still, to this day, considered one of the most monumental victories of the American Revolution. His capture of this fort also aided in the expansion of American explorers west of the Appalachians.

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The reverse features George Rogers Clark leading his troops toward Fort Sackville. Inscriptions read GEORGE ROGERS CLARK, E PLURIBUS UNUM, 2017, and INDIANA.

The obverse features an effigy of George Washington with inscriptions reading clockwise UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, IN GOD WE TRUST, QUARTER DOLLAR, and LIBERTY. The “P” mint mark is also visible in the lower right.

The 99.9% silver coin is presented in a black, stylish presentation case. For more information on this coin and others offered by the United States Mint, please visit the website of the United States Mint.

I keep almost all of my savings in a diversified holding of all precious metals. With money in stocks, bonds and metals with some physical cash in reserve I see no reason to limit myself to 5% when I have no need for more federal reserve notes and don’t want to risk more than necessary in the stock and bond markets. The key is to have no debt so you have no need for “money”

Maybe you guys know what the inside scoop is on grading prices but this guy has sold a few enhanced Sacagawea coins graded sp70 early release today. The ones up for auction had the mint 225th anniversary ngc label, he had some for sale that have the standard Sacagawea ngc label for $89 with a make an offer option. The cheapest buy it now I could find with a different label was $39 so I offered him $39…..it was declined. Then one went in auction with the 225th label for 17.08 so I offered him $29 and sent a message saying that maybe he should accept because he just auctioned one for 17.08…..he declined. Now I just bought one off him at auction for $18.50???? Is this guy just a moron or is there some sort of difference in value between labels? All of these coins were sp70 and would cost roughly $25 for me to just get the grading done. I don’t get it ?

I used to submit through the Bulk Program PCGS has. It was $12 per coin, plus shipping and handling(about $37).
The requirements were a minimum of 100 coins with no more than 5 categories. You could submit 20-2010, 20-2011, 20-2012, 20-1964, and 20 more of same item…as an example. You can also request a minimum grade, but not 70. I used to submit 2010-2012 halves with a minimum grade of 69. I would recommend you know how to grade if you request a minimum grade because there is a penalty if you have too many sent back that don’t meet the required percentage of encapsulation.

Just bought a proof PF70 from the same guy for about the same price. I didn’t buy anything really from the mint this year because I didn’t like any of the coins with the exception of the Sequoyah dollar. It’s the perfect subject for a Native American coin because of how rare it is in history that people come up with a written language, Cherokee syllabary is amazing and an achievement to celebrate. The coin itself also has a good design and I can’t wait to hold the enhanced version in my hand, if it’s like the 2015 Mohawk iron workers coin the coin should pop and look spectacular!

@Ryan – The enhanced $1 is the best coin in the 225th Anny Set. If buying slabbed, I prefer the NGC First Day Denver ANA label. One can still get them at a reasonable price and they’re a good reminder of the shenanigans that went on there.

Speaking of Native American coins, everyone see the Commander in Chief disrespect some Navajo Code Talker vets to their faces today? Yet another glaring example of poor character on display in the White House.

@ Joe M. – I always enjoy reading your posts about varieties, errors, etc. I’m sure a specialist like you has all sorts of magnification aides, but what would you suggest for a beginner variety/error collector? I use a high quality triplet 6x loupe for normal evaluation and a crappy 16x doublet for error searching. In reality I’d guess the no-name job is probably closer to 10x. I’m considering the 14x Bausch & Lomb ($45) and the 15x Belomo ($35), both Hastings triplets. Eschenbach makes a $100+ 15x loupe but I think it’s a doublet. I have a feeling the 20x loupes don’t let enough light in and are too difficult to use. Do you primarily use loupes, glasses/goggles, table mounted light/lens, microscopes? Thanks!

@cagcrisp – First let me apologize. I was obviously very rude. In my defense, and using an analogy, one time one of the more amazonian women at my gym started to give my wife very good advice on how to modify her regime to build muscle. My wife’s reply was to thank her for the advice, but her goal was to tone her muscles, not build more… Anyway I’m glad you recommend a diverse portfolio

@ Joe M – As far as not knowing the market, that is the benefit of buying SPY or any S&P 500 Index Stock. You really don’t have to know how the market works, the Index itself does all the heavy lifting, and on top of that it charges low fees. Its one of the quickest and easiest ways to increase wealth. cagcrisp advice is sound, but like any investment, it is not risk free, and even though the S&P can beat PMs over the long term, you may have a short term goal, or like a lot of readers of this blog, you may be buying PMs as insurance. In that case any return on your “insurance policy” is just icing on the cake.

cagcrisp, the tax bill will be good as it is already built into the market, individuals get the big colonoscopy out of this….the bills enablers said that if the $ is used for dividends or stock buybacks that’s fine, so now we are subsidizing Wall $t w/a tax cut & individuals picking up the slack in 3years, under $75k get hammered per CBO, etc., Trump;’s ‘base” does not matter any benefit is gone due to raises in health insurance caused by instability furthered by the Fed/POTUS actions; medicare for all is the way, for profit health care is just that profit over health, another GOP financial boondoggle that will lead to some kind of financial crises in 7 years of so, see Raygun rtax cut & deregulation = greed & ’80’s black Mon, Bush 2 cuts & deregulation = implosion of mkt & RE in 2oo8…..coins used to be a good play, not so sure anymore, the market is slowly becoming like US Stamps……stuff <$1 & over $100k no problem, everything in between a tuff sell or buy…. any kids (under 30 say…) collect mint & proof sets? Maybe bullion but that's it….IMHO

@John Q. Coinage, Even though I’m Heavily involved in the stock market, I’m Not in favor of the Tax bill as it is currently written. I understand there will be some concessions made on the Senate Floor to offset some of my concerns.

It will pass whether I like it or not but I haven’t seen any worthwhile economist that thinks we can Grow our way out of $1.4 Trillion debt that it will create and My generation will pass on to my kids and grandkids …

Business taxes are included in the price of most everything we buy ( consumers actually pay it ) and maybe coin / PM premiums will be reduced if taxes get lowered. They should make it so all individual taxpayers get a break also but, that doesn’t seem likely to happen. Notice how reducing spending is not discussed. They are worried about revenue coming in which shows they are not serious about any deficit spending.

btw- I’d call it a display of poor character to be misleading about your heritage to help obtain employment.

The silver unc. has finally cleared the 70% mark, but the numbers overall are still looking pretty dismal. With one month of sales to go, the gold unc. hasn’t even gotten half as much love as the NPS gold got last year…. 🙁

I haven’t bothered to check the prices, but what happened to the aftermarket prices of NPS BU gold in the past year? I would guess they did not appreciate. Will we see the same flood of money come into the Boys Town BU gold at the final hours, despite the poor track record of Modern Commems?

I am definitely not getting any — and I am *super* glad I flipped the BBHOF gold BU dollars I got right away.

Flipping is a MUCH more dangerous game than it was only a few years ago. And I think that is why we have seen the comments falling off — a lot of ppl were buying a lot of mint product, thinking (incorrectly) that they couldn’t lose.

@sith
Thank you! Yes, I’ve been reading this blog for about 3 years and absolutely love cags analysis…even when I disagree.
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@So Krates
There are sooooo many out there, it really doesn’t matter on the maker if you’re a beginner or novice collector. I don’t recommend a 5x or 10x for varieties. Get a BAUSCH & LOMB!!!! doublet or triplet(I think it’s no longer made)…..
Usually a 10x is sufficient for the average collector, but if you’re going to get into OMM’s(Over-Mintmarks), RPM’s(Repunched Mintmarks), and MPD’s(Misplaced Digits), then you should get a 20x or 30x. Bausch & Lomb is what I’ve always used. Field-of-vision is important, but you don’t want to sacrifice clarity for a larger circumference magnifying glass 🙂

P.S. If there are just 10 people on this site that want to know more about coin VARIETIES(NOT ERRORS), then I will create a Youtube channel to help people know what VALUABLE coins are out there based upon what VARIETY makes it so. Remember, I’m a VARIETY Specialist and I won’t waste time on videos for just REGULAR numismatic questions. I used to have a channel with over 1,900 subscribers and over 75 videos. I still have those videos, but I’d rather make low-quality vids as I HAVE NO INTEREST IN SUBSCRIBER COUNT. I am a misanthrope and absolutely hate the popularity BS on Youtube…I also don’t have twatter or farcebook . So, if I post a video in response to a question here, I might take it down within days. If Youtube ever get’s there @#$% together(look up adpocalypse), I might create a permanent channel later…
but i doubt it 🙁

Barry says, “btw- I’d call it a display of poor character to be misleading about your heritage to help obtain employment.”

It’s hardly a comparable “display”, because she was merely listed in a law directory decades before her service in government under a heading you call misleading, while he was on world wide television yesterday making a racial slur to a vet being honored at the White House… a much, much BIGlier display.

I’m not sure of her heritage and neither are you. The whole business of labeling race and ethnicity in law directories, admissions documents and employment applications is dubious at best. As long as these often vague distinctions are requested and used in some form to diversify, cases of questionable reporting will occur. E.g., if she was a Jew (2% of the US population) would her claim to minority status be more legit? or how about octaroon and hexadecaroon?….these divisions get silly and meaningless pretty quickly.

In addition there was no direct connection ever alleged between her infrequent minority self description and her hiring. “Charles Fried, the head of the Harvard appointing committee…recommended Warren for her position in 1995, saying that the Democratic candidate’s heritage didn’t come up during the course of her hiring. “It simply played no role in the appointments process,” he said. “It was not mentioned and I didn’t mention it to the faculty.” The Herald later quoted Fried, a former U.S. Solicitor General under President Ronald Reagan, saying, “I can state categorically that the subject of her Native American ancestry never once was mentioned.”

Most of those RPMs and OMMs are tough to make out to an untrained eye like mine, especially on circulated coins (which is most of the 90% I look through). The wear and dings the old MMs receive from circulating often look similar to the images in the CPG. As a result I have set aside quite a few “possible” finds for further review when I get more magnification. I wound up ordering a B&L 14x. If it’s too weak I guess I’ll try the 20x. I’ll have a collection of loupes to match my holsters,etc. , seems like one of those items you start to accumulate by upgrading and adding but never tossing the old ones

I enjoyed that last vid you linked a while back ( was that the close AM cent? ).

Your mission Joe M., should you decide to accept it, is to educate MNB posters and lurkers about varieties. As always, should you or any of your cherry picking force be caught or killed, the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions. This You Tube clip will self-destruct in ten seconds.

@ So Krates
It’s 4:00 am pacific time. I will be swamped tomorrow(today) with ebay and kitchen work(new cabinets), but I will address your concern with RPM’s real fast before bedtime….
Mechanical vs. die doubling…are you aware of the APPEARANCE?? This is why some RPM’s will look like some CPG(Cherrypicker’s Guide to those who are wondering what CPG is) varieties, but aren’t.
This is one important vid I would make as IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO VARIETY AND ERROR COLLECTING 🙂

@ Joe M. – That would be great, but please, no pressure to hurry. Although I know some of the diagnostics, I still struggle with recognizing the difference between strike doubling and die doubling especially on the more circulated coins with smaller spreads and mushy serifs.

cagcrisp great anaklysis of a Wall $t touter….forget stock get the reak deal physical possession, or let these guys feed @ their trough. SoKrates good post, current POTUS has no conception of the job he has & what it stands for, he is just a buffoon IMHO….he is not credible, now claiming the access Hollywood tape is “fake” oh yeah the girl faked the shocked look on her face when he asked for a ‘hug’ she welcomed Billy B’s but Trump almost himped her….he insulted native Americans & his ignoring the racists Charston “Jews will not take our job march” that looked like Nazi Germany 1936… you know “good & bad folk on both sides” > right…..tax cut a big lie 70% to big $$$ & corps, they keep the SALT writeoff WE THE PEOPLE lose it & also in 3 years start sunsetting Indiv. cuts, 70% goes to the top 1% & big corps., they apprantely keep all their writeoffs & loopholes…., trickle down tax reductions, yeah right I have a Elephant Tusk you can get cheap. This guy would kill the last Passenger Pigeon & cut down the last tree on Earth for ‘business” or a buck, or make it Trump Mt. Rushmore…last he is a liar, period! Warren is a piker next to his fibs….He moved the swamp to his Cabinet, Munchkin has a sheet eating grin every time, worse then Bill Clinton’s even…I did not vote for Him or HRC, we have a lack of quality candidates on both sides, the GOP is rewarding their MASTERS banks, Wall St, etc.., not the poor joe 6pack that ‘loves’ Donnie T……my 2c for the day

John Q. Coinage – actually, your 2 cents is worth a million dollars, if we can value the truth of what you’re saying over the disaster that sums up the Trump administration. The man is clearly insane, with a veneer of sanity that fools some people and all of his base. He’s not quite as insane – yet – as Adolf Hitler, who was observed during the Sudeten (Czechoslovakia) crisis to go into a blind fit of rage People in the meeting witnessed him throwing himself to the floor and chewing the carpet out of sheer anger. Those fits of madness gave him the nickname Teppichfresser (carpet-eater) among his enemies. The President (not my president) hasn’t acted quite like this – yet – but then again, Hitler never had his finger on a nuclear war button.

Are people buying Trump medals from the Mint? Just wondering. And as for the Trump base – there were Nazis who still believed in der Führer even as the bombs were falling on Unter den Linden and the Reichstag losing days of the war. You really can fool some of the people all of the time – that fact hasn’t changed since the end of the war, unfortunately – we see it in full force today.

Since this forum is now political, let me include my 2 cents worth.
Had the voters had not wanted to make history, they would NOT have hired a former community organizer with a socialist agenda. That insane act was equalled later by those that elect Trump just to stop Hillary. We made the mess we are in.

Tom you are correct, but the electoral college had alot to do with it-> Trump lost by 10,000,000 popular votes (6m HRC 4m independent some)I was & am not an Obama fan & admit I voted for him 1x….anyway, solcials v. an plutocratic Wall St corporate agendas….BUT AS to the conduct of the POTUS NOW & his representing the people he fails, as did Obama to manyl. But we have him now, not Obama, not Clinton, so let`s deal with the present. I agree this has gone political but it bleeds into coins, where is a mint director? Prez Trump has a plethora of vacant spots in Gov’t infrastructure WHY, is there some goal to destroy gov’t as it is, we`ll see.?? Community Organizer left a much stronger economy for Mr T than a Texas oilman….. As to USM sales of a Trump medal, the mint will sell them after he is out of office, as Obama medals went on sale post 2016 election I believe….

@ So Krates
Well, my comment explaining how dies are made, when mintmarks are added to the dies, die states, and more is not showing up. I added two links, one to CONECA.org and one to variety vista so people could look up info for free.

Since MintNewsBlog doesn’t respond to why it isn’t showing up, I’ll just post an old video explaining…
Magnifying glasses, microscopes, and classes of doubled dies. It’s a video I made over 6 years ago, but it explains a lot about different classes of doubled dies. It also shows the 1969s DDO cent that was in the vid I linked to a while back.
If you want to see the vid, let me know.
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