Are we sure this is satire? My other half is a TrekNerd and they have their meetings at our house sometimes - when I do bite the bullet and stick around, I listen, and yes, I too have heard this argued. Seriously. I just close the door and turn on porn or baseball, anything to drown it out.

basically star trek ships give me the impression they couldn't even take a tie fighter. Every episode they're getting their ass kicked by someone. I don't think a federation ship could defeat another federation ship.

Oh wait, they did it in wrath of kahn. The only time I saw the enterprise actually win a fight.

What is really FUNNY (or not at all for me), is that being a CS major I have to endure hearing these conversations constantly. As if the body odor and hardcore japanese fanaticism weren't enough, I have to be put through this every day as well.

I really should have just sticked to an easy liberal arts major and been in class with a bunch of hotties instead.

Now, if it's classic Trek, and Scotty's drunk, and Kirk and his entire senior staff are stuck on the planet's surface, and Kirk just got done molesting the green broad, then hell yeah, Scotty will blast any non Federation vessel out of the sky.

The Enterprise E vs a Super Star Destroyer may be an interesting match, however vs a simple Star Destroyer its doubtful it be much of a head ache for the Enterprise.I personally doubt though that the influences of the force can carry over such long distances as from the Command bridge of a Start Destroyer, which is near the rear to the bridge of a Sovereign Class Star Ship which is about 2/3 from the back tip of the nacelles. This compounded with such things as shields makes it highly unlikely Vader could exert all too much influence.

In any event if it is assumed that Vader did succeed in doing so, one has to consider that this Jedai mind trick only works on weak-minded individuals. Hence it is questionable if it would work on Picard, a man who was able to regain his individuality after being assimilated. Also its doubtful Data, if this fight was pre- Nemesis, be affected.Now as to technical differences.

The shields of empire ships seem not to be too hard to get through. If I remember correctly it was easily taken out by a kamikaze run from someone in an X-wing. This could be accomplished by loading antai mater in a shuttle and remote piloting it in to the shield generator, unless you wish to take a page from Nemesis and just ram the Enterprise into that particular section of the Destroyer.

As for weaponry, the Empire seems to outfit its ships with the equivalent of Klingon / Romulan Disrupters. However, the enterprise has Photon torpedoes as well as Quantam and even perhaps Tri Colbalt torpedoes. It would also have standard Phasers to deal with possible squadrons of tie fighters.

Many moons ago when I was in the Navy, this guy transferred to our command from the USS Missouri, an old and very famous WWII vintage ship. I'm pretty sure the Japanese signed the surrender papers on it.

Anyways, the guy was a total Missouri dork. No matter what the subject of conversation, he'd try to steer it back to either something similar that occurred on the Missouri, or the ship itself.

Well, one time I said a modern Navy destroyer could probably take out Mighty Mo'. Big mistake!

Our boy started sputtering on about the Missouri's firepower, it's armor, all kinds of stuff. Got all kinds of mad about it. Other people heard us talking (well, I was talking, but homeboy was all spun up like daffy duck vs bugs bunny) so they joined in and it devolved into 4-5 guys talking shiat about the Missouri, and how bad it sucked and so on.

so, it ended up with our boy hissing <drama tag> "the USS Missouri will NEVER be defeated!" <close drama tag> and storming off.

Whew! What a relief--BBSpot managed to get that article in just before the Star Trek franchise's death rattle. Probably makes up for all those Babylon 5 jokes they thought of just a year or two too late.

It is the 72 tie fighters (yes, i know they blow up fast), the 5 gunboats (which, are devistatingly effective if you have played Tie Fighter), but trully, it is the 60 ion cannons that would fark up the Enterprise in no time flat,

Hell, a couple of photon torpedoes would cash out the Enterprise once those babies had their way.

I was going to ask why people found this BBSpot site funny, with its ham-fisted attempts at satire, when there's the feather-light deft touch of subtle genius at The Onion, just another click away. But, then I realized that apparently no one here finds BBSpot funny. Thank God, renewing my faith in Farkers.

I personally doubt though that the influences of the force can carry over such long distances as from the Command bridge of a Start Destroyer, which is near the rear to the bridge of a Sovereign Class Star Ship which is about 2/3 from the back tip of the nacelles. This compounded with such things as shields makes it highly unlikely Vader could exert all too much influence.

I'm not too sure about the effects of shielding on the Force, but there is a flaw in your argument. Through the Force, Obi-Wan was able to sense the destruction of Alderran (the "thousands of voices crying out")

im not expert in either starwars or startrek but doesnt a star destroyer have lots of guns or "blaster" and there like 10 times the size! the carry brigades and brigades of infantry and ground attack thinks like that AT AT plus all those ships and tie fighters. what does the Enterprise have? aside from gay uniforms, a blind engineer, a balding and ahem.......french captain . <--battle already lost he ran away long ago. oh ya a wonderfull aura of colourful laser weapons all they need now are purple horse shoes and maybe the gay flag in the brigde.