Tried asking this elsewhere but didn't get a reply. Just trying to decide if putting a rifle on a HD Ar would be a good investment or if they are just a useless accessory. Do they have a practical advantage or are they just something for the bad guys to aim at? I could really use some advice here.

If you aren't going to get any training in its use, it will draw fire, but IMO flashlights are a must. You should not be shooting without identifying your target and since most home invasions happen at night (and since 2+2=4) you should have a flashlight.

But I cannot stress enough that you need to get low-light/no-light training. When you use a flashlight properly, it gives you a serious advantage over an intruder and will only give them an aiming point for a fleeting second before you have moved. By that time, they are shooting at where you were, and you are in a position to put the light on them and put more accurate shots on target and end the threat.

Are you new to the AR rifle? Seems you may be and if so, I'd suggest you familiarize yourself on the TOTAL operation of the AR design, before you start dropping $$$ on all the toy accessories. Just because many say get it, it's a must have, doesn't mean it fits your exact means for HD. My AR is the plain jane version. It's not for HD, but I added a Magpul+ grip and a BCM charging handle for a proper fit and a solid pullback charge. It's accurate, functions well and suits MY needs. Never forget, when the SHTF at 2 am, you better be able to operate your HD weapon in the dark and half asleep. No room for error(s).

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yes.., get a flashlight, BUT !! make sure it has "strobe" capabilities, nothing will disorganize an intruder faster than a strobe !!

Strobe features can be fun to play with, but they are not necessary. Rarely will you have the flashlight on long enough to use the strobe. Proper use of the flashlight is to use the momentary switch and sweep the area quickly, move, sweep, move, etc. Once you identify a threat with a sweep, move again so that if the threat shoots at where they last saw the light you are no longer there, then put the light back on the threat and engage if need be.

My weapon light is the TLR-1s, but using the strobe is not high on my training priority. It can even disorient the user...

Hey thanks fellas yes I am a bit new to all this but I am not exactly green either I have been casually shooting and hunting all my life and am pretty familier with my gun now. Where would you guys recommend getting training? I live about 2 hours away from the twin cities so I think my options are kind of limited.

It can be a useful piece of kit, but not necessary. You can prepare your home so that the use of a light will be less likely. I've placed small night lights around my home that will illuminate avenues of approach to my bedrooms without compromising my position. I say it's best not to use one unless necessary, but if you need one, you need one. I do have one mounted on a HD rifle. I'd reccommend getting one with a pressure switch to momentarily turn it on.

A light can be a useful tool, or a terrible liability. It depends on the user and how well they know how to utilize the light. I had a TLR-1 on my AR-15 and thought it was great. Then, I went to a shoot house course, and kept turning the darn thing on when I stacked up near a door (and shining a light in the floor of the doorway isn't exactly stealthy!). So, I realized I needed to change the set-up or alter my stance (I moved the light to a different spot). You'll find a lot of stuff like that when talking about tactics and equipment. Things can be great, IF you know how to use them correctly and integrate them into how you work. If you don't use them correctly or throw them on without thinking things through, you can end up with embarrassing or even dangerous results.

You need to know what your bullet is going to impact and with a defence rifle you will 90% of the time be in the dark. Is there anyone or anything in your house you wouldn't mind shooting in the dark and hoping it'sthe right target?

+1 on training. I don't think most people train enough. They spend their money on new toys, new firearms, and think they have their bases covered. Training is the difference between hobby firearm use and having the ability, as well as the means, to defend themselves.

Yes. It is an excellent option to have, even if you don't even up using it, much like the purpose for the rifle itself.

Personally, I would not go with the strobe. The purported disorientation isn't consistently effective, sometimes affects the operator as well, and certainly tends to cast a surreal view on what is going on that may make situational comprehension more difficult.

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