Johnston arrived in Las Vegas with the woman he was dating on the Thursday before the Super Bowl. He drank in the limousine from the Las Vegas airport to the Grand, drank more during dinner with friends, and then says he blacked out.

Sin_City_Superhero:Johnston arrived in Las Vegas with the woman he was dating on the Thursday before the Super Bowl. He drank in the limousine from the Las Vegas airport to the Grand, drank more during dinner with friends, and then says he blacked out.

If he blacked out, how does he know he was visibly drunk?

When was the last time you saw pictures or heard descriptions of you after a blackout?

Baloo Uriza:Sin_City_Superhero: Johnston arrived in Las Vegas with the woman he was dating on the Thursday before the Super Bowl. He drank in the limousine from the Las Vegas airport to the Grand, drank more during dinner with friends, and then says he blacked out.

If he blacked out, how does he know he was visibly drunk?

When was the last time you saw pictures or heard descriptions of you after a blackout?

IRQ12:Because People in power are Stupid: Johnston lives in Ventura and made his fortune in car dealership and real estate ventures.

Oh, they mean a scumbag; a scumbag is suing a casino. So, it's win-win.

WTF? You're a scumbag if you own a car dealership and real estate and make money off of it?

Anyway, it's always interesting to me how everyone else is responsible for your drinking until you do something illegal, then it's 100% your fault.

Yeah, that's one thing that I've never understood. Get blackout drunk and drive? DUI. Get blackout drunk and beat somebody? Assault. Get blackout drunk and throw yourself at someone of the opposite sex? You were raped and he needs to be in prison, even if he was also drunk.

I just... ugh, laws around intoxication are just so farking inconsistent.

Try that ole "I'm too drunk to know what I am doing" trick with a Vegas hooker and see what happens. It generally does not end well. But then again, hookers don't extend markers and the biz is usually pay up front, or so I am told.

I lived in Vegas for 8 years. My motto was that your goal as a local on the Strip is to drink for free. You are a winner if you walk out of that casino roaring drunk with the exact amount in your wallet that you walked in with.

DittoToo:I lived in Vegas for 8 years. My motto was that your goal as a local on the Strip is to drink for free. You are a winner if you walk out of that casino roaring drunk with the exact amount in your wallet that you walked in with.

That's the goal for me when I gamble in New Orleans. I go in with what it would cost to get drunk, play until that point. Anything left over is a win.

Carn:First and only rule of gambling: Never bet what you can't afford to lose. There, you're all welcome. Eat shiat and pay your debt, dumbass.

It's hard to remember rules like that when you're three sheets to the wind. Also hard to realize you're three sheets to the wind when you're three sheets to the wind. After a certain point, you're obviously too drunk to make informed decisions, which means you're too drunk to provide informed consent to anything, which is why contract law explicitly forbids getting someone incredibly drunk than giving them something to sign, taking advantage of the fact that they momentarily can't understand it. The same thing applies here. He was obviously too drunk to know what he was doing, and the law (at least from what I understand of the article) says that means the casino is legally required to stop him from gambling anymore, pretty much precisely so situations like this don't happen.

No. Bad businessman. YOU DO NOT fark up my drunken gambling trips because you have gambling remorse. No. If they start enforcing the "no drinks or gambling for drunks" rule I am going to so farking mad. That's the farking point you stupid twat.

ignacio:Carn: First and only rule of gambling: Never bet what you can't afford to lose. There, you're all welcome. Eat shiat and pay your debt, dumbass.

It's hard to remember rules like that when you're three sheets to the wind. Also hard to realize you're three sheets to the wind when you're three sheets to the wind. After a certain point, you're obviously too drunk to make informed decisions, which means you're too drunk to provide informed consent to anything, which is why contract law explicitly forbids getting someone incredibly drunk than giving them something to sign, taking advantage of the fact that they momentarily can't understand it. The same thing applies here. He was obviously too drunk to know what he was doing, and the law (at least from what I understand of the article) says that means the casino is legally required to stop him from gambling anymore, pretty much precisely so situations like this don't happen.

Nice try - but merely explaining something complex to a simpletion does not magically imbue his mind with the capacity to absorb it.

Normally people don't attempt to play this card (heh) because in order to establish it in court you have to testify under oath to some truly embarrassing and professionally damning behavior.

BUT, this guy's a used car salesman, so he has no reputation to lose. Good luck guy.

The casino over-reached here. They clearly knew who he was or what he was worth otherwise they wouldn't have let him keep playing (it's bad for business to have a sloppy drunk at the table). So they decided as an organization to keep letting him play and advancing him credit to drain him dry. That's not what they promised the public they would do when they got their license to operate and to sell booze.

It may be different for a Vegas casino, where state law has their back, but someone was able to get out of paying a debt to an indian casino in a state where gambling was illegal because the state would not compel payment of an illegal debt. One of the reasons that marijuana dispensaries need to stick to "cash only", I suppose.

And when he finished drinkin'He slumped against the windowCrushed out his cigaretteAnd threw up on his shirtAnd somewhere in the darknessHis lawyer he broke evenAnd in his summing upI found an ace that I could keepYou've got to know when to hold 'emKnow when to spill 'emKnow when to walk awayAnd know when to sueYou never count your moneyWhen you're a used car dealerIt's easier to do the countin'When your money's through

flondrix:It may be different for a Vegas casino, where state law has their back, but someone was able to get out of paying a debt to an indian casino in a state where gambling was illegal because the state would not compel payment of an illegal debt.

I'll take "shiat that would never fly if the tribes were allowed full jurisdiction as most treaties with tribes currently require." There's basically zero reason why it should have been in state court to begin with, it should have been in the tribe's court. And if a change of venue was needed, it could have been heard by a neighboring tribe under reciprocal agreement. We're talking about sovereign nations here whose authority has been curtailed excessively and illegally, much to the detriment of those nations lawful residents and citizens. See also: Washingtonians going to the rez for some consequence-free rape since the tribal courts don't have criminal jurisdiction over non-citizens, and none of the Washington or federal jurisdictions will prosecute in a case involving a tribal citizen.

One of the reasons that marijuana dispensaries need to stick to "cash only", I suppose.

That has more to do with the banking laws in the US not drawing a distinction between a legally licensed and totally above board marijuana dispensaries from a cocaine cartel, thanks to Schedule I.

He was just on CNN, according to the guy, the casino had an agenda to exploit him. he'd hardly gambled there before, and had a 1/4 million dollar credit line, which they doubled after seeing he was really drunk, later gave him a "discount" and told him he only had to pay back 400k in an effort to try and hurry him along. Have also done other things, such as sending out in house memo's and firing people in an attempt to CYA.

Probably not because they were doing this, but because they got caught.

Reminds me of a similar story on fark not long ago where someone tried to sell a fake lottery ticket, kept pleading down the numbers and ended up begging to not call the police.

From what has been put out there, like others have said, sounds like he's got a good case.

If the casinos let everybody who was drunk and lost money on gambling get away without paying, Clark County would have become a dry county long ago. There is a reason why the drinks flow freely, and it's not to give a legal "out" to big losers.

This guy is not winning his lawsuit. He's probably going to end up owing the casino legal fees, as well as his gambling debts, when this is all over.

Do you farkers really think this is the first time this sort of thing has happened? This isn't the old Vegas, either... the mob was pushed out long ago to the fringes. Today's Vegas is run by big corporations who do not mess around and do not lose in court.

If the casinos let everybody who was drunk and lost money on gambling get away without paying, Clark County would have become a dry county long ago. There is a reason why the drinks flow freely, and it's not to give a legal "out" to big losers.

This guy is not winning his lawsuit. He's probably going to end up owing the casino legal fees, as well as his gambling debts, when this is all over.

Do you farkers really think this is the first time this sort of thing has happened? This isn't the old Vegas, either... the mob was pushed out long ago to the fringes. Today's Vegas is run by big corporations who do not mess around and do not lose in court.

I love the lawyering too. Especially when morans decide they absolutely know the outcome.