Prophet, peace be upon him, said marriage is always an open ceremony. If its done in secret, then its not marriage. Its a sinful affair. Allah condemns secret relationships. Prophet (pbuh) taught that couple must be open and honest as to with whom they want to spend the rest of their lives.If you like a women of age 8 or 9 or whatever, then you can marry her if she argees and her parents agree. Why should other people tell you that you can't do this or do that. You people let others dictate your life. This is tyranny. Its none of their business. Islam gives complete freedom to men and women to decide their own future. Marriage is a bond between two families. When Prophet married Aisha, peace be upon her, the two families joined up and became stronger.

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If you like a women or 8 or 9 or whatever, then you can marry her if she argees and her parents agree. Why should other people tell you that you can't do this or do that. You people let others dictate your life. This is tyranny.

ahmed2010 wrote:Look why is it big deal with you to when a man openly marries a woman. You can't judge other s accoding to your bojwa standards.

Man having sex with a child is a punishable offence in all civilized countries.An old man with the ability to get an erection looking at a 9 year old girl, especially when claimed to be an excellent example to mankind, is to be condemned.... by whatever standards. It's basic decency.........

Quran miracle (16:69) :Bees eat ALL fruits Quran miracle (27:18) : an ant SAID, "O ants, enter your dwellings that you not be crushed by Solomon and his soldiers while they perceive not."

ahmed2010 wrote:Look why is it big deal with you to when a man openly marries a woman. You can't judge other s accoding to your bojwa standards.

Islamic concept of marriage is so sad. We really abuse the word marriage by using it that way.

Galatians 1:7-8But there are some who trouble (agitate) you, and they would pervert the good news of Christ.If we or an angel from heaven should preach to you any message other than that which we preached to you, let him be accursed.

ahmed2010 wrote:Prophet, peace be upon him, said marriage is always an open ceremony. If its done in secret, then its not marriage. Its a sinful affair. Allah condemns secret relationships. Prophet (pbuh) taught that couple must be open and honest as to with whom they want to spend the rest of their lives.If you like a women or 8 or 9 or whatever, then you can marry her if she argees and her parents agree. Why should other people tell you that you can't do this or do that. You people let others dictate your life. This is tyranny. Its none of their business. Islam gives complete freedom to men and women to decide their own future. Marriage is a bond between two families. When Prophet married Aisha, peace be upon her, the two families joined up and became stronger.

You are a sick man, ahmad2010. 8 or 9 year old girls are not women, they are children. Having sex with children is called pedophilia, in case you did not know. I know that in Muslim countries, pedophilia is legal, that does not make it acceptable. What kind of consent a little 8 or 9 year old girl can give? They do not know what it means to be married or have any understanding of sex. The parents of little girls who agree to pedophile marriage are sick people, they do not love their girls. They only see them as means to make money - this is sick and against nature.

But on the other hand we should respect muslims like Ahmed 2010 who told us straightforwardly that he has no problem with that...At least he is honest...

Not making up stuff about Aisha being 16 or 18 ...

Galatians 1:7-8But there are some who trouble (agitate) you, and they would pervert the good news of Christ.If we or an angel from heaven should preach to you any message other than that which we preached to you, let him be accursed.

This thread just proves what harm Islam can do to the normal human moral compass. Normally people don't have to be told that 9 year olds are children and that 50-somethings who want to molest them are SICK PAEDOPHILES.

Ahmed, No amount of mental gymnastics will ever make child molesting okay. Mohammed forced himself on a nine year old little girl, that is PAEDOPHILIA AND RAPE. It is sick, end of story. Mohammed was engaged to her when she was six, presumably at that age she was not menstruating, and therefore he was having sexual fantasies about A LITTLE GIRL. How can you not see a problem with that?

Brittania wrote:This thread just proves what harm Islam can do to the normal human moral compass.

what moral compass are you talking about? At least we have a fixed compass. where we west keeps changing its morality every ten years. first britain used to hang gays, then gays were imprisoned, even in the 60s, and now homosexuals are tolerated. soon men will be able to marry men. thats how low it gets. its disgusting morality.

i bet you will do the same with other moral values which you dont really beleive in but only pretend to.

Islam has solid morality that has remained the same since the year 630 A.D.We dont update our values every two decades. our prophet is does not have double standards. He married Aisha at 6 and allowed anyone who wanted to to do the same. Islam is sexually freer than stuck up europe which is still in dark ages.

You're a sick man ahmed. You go ahead and keep your 1400 year old morals while the rest of the world evolves. Just keep your morals confined within muslim countries. If you don't you're asking for trouble.

Ahmed,Just remember something . Not only did Muhammad marry Aisha when she was 6 years old, but he had sex with her when she was 9. This means that Muhammad had a mental illness where he could be sexually aroused by a little nine year old girl. Could you be sexually aroused by the form of a little 9 year old girl? I can't.

Today in the west, men have sex with men. You used to call gays evil and sick in 1960 but not in 2010. Now you love them.

Today you critise child brides, but you will accept them as good 2050. Wait and see. You will accept all age marriages as normal, just like you accepted many things which you once hated. You dont know where you stand.

Islam does not change according to your whims. Its values remain the same forever. It is the best moral religion. Your morals keeps changing like the weather. It shows you dont really have any values that are worth keeping.

ahmed2010 wrote:Today you critise child brides, but you will accept them as good 2050. Wait and see.

I will be waiting for your apology when this does not happen.

Islam does not change according to your whims. Its values remain the same forever. It is the best moral religion

You don't even know what morality is and where it comes from.

Your morals keeps changing like the weather. It shows you dont really have any values that are worth keeping.

It's called evolution. But how would you know since the muslim mind hasn't evolved for over a millenia. If there was no oil in some muslim countries you would all still be living in shacks. Do something for the benefit of humanity for once on your own and stop crying for aid from the west all the time.

So stop pretending you are better than God and his religion.

We are better. Allah, muhammeds alter ego was a bloodthirsty pedophile.

Some countries are now thinking of legalising incest where brother and sister will be allowed to have sex and marry. Then mother and son can do it too like sick Romans used to do. Europe is getting back to those days, its values are actually based on Roman times. If you watch the news, you can see that father and daughters are already sinning in secret. Fathers have got their daughters pregnant. This is so sick. This is west. No wonder Islam is spreading and people by the thousands are converting to Islam because its moral values are stable and good.

When incest is made legal, all siners who are not hidden will all "come out" just like homosexuals "came out" in the 1970 after sodomy was made legal. Today in 2010 men marry men, that is just so disgusting. When incest is legalised, I think i will throw up.

seculars and atheists in the west simplky dont know what right and wrong is. they make it up every decade or two. just see how they have been inventing values for past two centuries. West have turned morality into immorality and sin into a normal accepted thing.

Most people are now sick of all this moral confusion, this swapping morality all the time. they want something stable family values and only Islam provides gives that. Thats why it is spreading and converting a lot of people in west.

Check it here how many females in the west have becomes muslim in last five years. Scientists and intellectuals are turnning to islam and accepting it as the only vialble alternative.

Media knows this fact that so many are converting to Islam, thats why its enaged in vicious misinformation and false propaganda to make Islam and Muslims look bad. But as we can see its not working. Islam is gaining converts at high speed. Truth is coming out. People are thinking for themselves and accepting Islam as a natural and wholesome way of life.

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