This seems to me like Idoit would be more on board with this rule/adaptation if DL spots were treated differently throughout the year.

Given the type of league this is, with the extensive farm system and contracts and stuff like that, there should be no limit whatsoever on regular DL spots. If you have 8 players on the DL in May, you should be able to have 8 players available to you to take their place. Given that it's a Roto league, not having that option could take you right out of the running early (Idoit) and makes it very difficult to prioritize the league with your attention.

I think we should bring in 2 rules.

1. DL spots are unlimited. You can use free agents to replace 2 of your DL players, but beyond 2 you must use your own farm players. LTIR is eliminated.

I feel almost certain that we discussed a player needing to actually be on the DL. I mean, I see what you are saying that we could stretch LTDL to cover this, but I had no intention of trying to get cute with the rules, and I guess I think it makes more sense to address more head on that some sort of special LTIR circumstance. That said, if we could agree upon the standard for doing it, it would be a viable alternative.

Yeah it was discussed, i'm not saying thats what you should have done, I just think its what we should do moving forward. A blanket "signings in September" rule would be stupid. My feelings on the worth of the signing aside, if Medlen had been signed in September and could only be signed for one year, that would have been stupid.

I agree and don't think I ever advocated a blanket september rule. My proposed September rule would have only covered players who are bought out in September and then subsequently signed.

While on the subject of rule making, I think we should institute a rule disallowing anyone from dropping a player and immediately re-signing for additional years. I don't think it has ever happened, but it crossed my mind that the top person on the waiver list could theoretically do this.

Things get dicey this time of year. Some players who would get put on the DL earlier don't now. But others get out back in the lineup. It's hard to make a judgment call. In one league I'm in we address whether they can be dl'd late in the year this way. If they are listed as out for the season, you can DL them. This is on CBS though, where they state that.

Do we have a compilation of e-mail addresses for those in this league? This rule-making discussion needs to go beyond preliminary talks within this thread and we need to start actually making decisions.

There needs to be a definite rulebook in place prior to the start of next season's draft/buyouts/farm signings

Previously we just have reached a verdict with the people involved in the conversation. These discussions always go on for days, so if someone isn't checking in during that time, they also aren't going to notice a new rule haha.

Looking things over, I think its all going to come down to HR/RBI numbers over two days, Mr. Colby. I see you, like me, have conceded your position on steals in favor of going for power. I have more to lose on OBP than you, though. I'm feeling pretty shaky about my chances. Really rooting for MWB's pitchers tonight big time.

I have pulled all the wrong strings on who to start and who to sit over the past couple weeks. My lead over you was 20 on 9/4. Your offense has been crushing.

Mr. Colby wrote:I've never been in this close of a Roto league... a couple days ago 4 teams were within 6 points.

Very fun.

One of my goals was to secure the 4-spot in saves, so I picked up Nathan and that gained me like 3 points.

That was a critical decision for you. I was hoping that you would not make that call because it seemed too easy for you to pick up some points that way.

F-Her really crapped the bed for me this past month and capped it off last night with that dud. I went +0.03 in ERA last night to where I'm only up 0.01 on ulf for the 8 spot now. With the number of innings I have, I really need a horrid night to go +0.03. I had been counting on pitching stats being essentially locked up so to lose a point in ERA would be disasterous -- something I cannot afford.

Assuming you hold onto wins and your position in WHIP (which I expect you will), you're basically capped everywhere but HR. Unfortunately, I could hold you off in HR but lose my position in RBI and OBP and still lose by 0.5.