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So if I'm reading this right DP is saying that the feature almost everybody hates that is bad and makes the forum objectively worse will never go away because that would negatively impact another feature that nobody has ever used and most likely never will use just in case someday, someone wants to use it. Is that right?

Originally Posted by You

It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.

Yeah, an actually successful armed revolution is unrealistic, even with the current pandemic. If anything, the lack of one in North Korea is probably a good indicator of the viability of one here, in China, or most other advanced nations these days. Conditions have to get a lot worse for anything more than riots and terror cells.

As for drawing the line... frankly, that's really hard to say or do. I can give you a response on where I would like a line to be drawn as a sort of ideal, but we're talking about war. And a drastically imbalanced conflict, besides. Just from a practical standpoint, the underdogs would almost certainly have to resort to tactics that those in power wouldn't. I'd have to think about it more, rather than just running off my internal sensibility of "don't do unnecessary, horrible things to people." What constitutes "unnecessary" for some might not for others.

At what point do you become human failure, though? I mean, an armed revolution in the US is probably impossible, but just as a thought exercise: if it were possible, where should the lines be drawn?

The thing about an armed revolution is, who decides who gets sent to the chopping block? Even now at least 40% of Americans still support Trump, so would you really be willing to kill every last one of them for the sake of your ideals? The US may be a flawed democracy, but it still loosely is one. It's hard for a leading establishment to take power without at least a fairly broad swathe of the population agreeing with and supporting it, which kind of takes the moral force out of any "populist" revolution (unless you redefine "populist" to mean just "agreeing with my definition of the people's good").

It's not like the old days where you could have the king that everyone hates but still hangs on to power just because nobody had any choice to get rid of them save violent revolution. Of course it's easy to divide people into categories like the "bad rich people" and the "good poor people" and say only the latter represents "the people", but in reality a lot of even lower income people buy into the capitalist/neoliberal dream, not just the rich. (As the saying goes, America isn't filled with poor people, but "temporarily embarrassed millionaires"). You'd have to fight them for the sake of your revolution as well.

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Originally Posted by Twelveseal

Yeah, an actually successful armed revolution is unrealistic, even with the current pandemic. If anything, the lack of one in North Korea is probably a good indicator of the viability of one here, in China, or most other advanced nations these days. Conditions have to get a lot worse for anything more than riots and terror cells.

As for drawing the line... frankly, that's really hard to say or do. I can give you a response on where I would like a line to be drawn as a sort of ideal, but we're talking about war. And a drastically imbalanced conflict, besides. Just from a practical standpoint, the underdogs would almost certainly have to resort to tactics that those in power wouldn't. I'd have to think about it more, rather than just running off my internal sensibility of "don't do unnecessary, horrible things to people." What constitutes "unnecessary" for some might not for others.

A revolution founded on blood can continue justifying any number of evils as long as it claims to have a "higher cause". That's the lesson at least the French Revolution teaches.

He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.

Originally Posted by AvengerEmiya

Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?

Originally Posted by Five_X

Fate Zero is just Fate Stay Night for people who think Shirou is too girly

He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.

Originally Posted by AvengerEmiya

Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?

Originally Posted by Five_X

Fate Zero is just Fate Stay Night for people who think Shirou is too girly

In a way giving Hong Kong more autonomy is harder than building a secret democratic base in China.

They decide to pass the Homeland Security Law after it was discovered that some schools are teaching fabricated history to primary school children (Opium War erupted because Great Britain is trying to stop Qing China from smoking opium) and guiding secondary school kids to support the Japanese occupation and invasion of China. The protests erupted since the Legco can do nothing to stop the laws from passing, and since USA played with those Hong Kong related bills, it seems unlikely that China will back down now.

We believed that no matter the truth, the West WILL blame China for their own lousy handling of the virus, so there really is no need to save face when dealing with Hong Kong which is developing into a hub for anti-Chinese activities. This view is enforced when it is reported that USA is considering to start nuclear tests again, so there is a need to prepare for the worse when Trump decides to nuke us.

Man, it's really building up to another thing that never happened over there, huh.

Depends on what you are talking about. Teaching fabricated history is very real right now and is a problem already.

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Originally Posted by Mcjon01

Man it never fails to amaze how China can have so much power and still nurse such a huge fucking victim complex

Many were fooled by the propaganda of the West, believing that justice will be served dealing with Japanese Invasion and the Eight Nation Alliance. We once thought we were weak and not part of the world and thus ignored, then we realized nobody ever cared about that even if we become strong.

Huh, I was under the impression Andy Beshear was rather well-liked as a Governor, despite the fact that he leads an otherwise red state. I'd heard his Coronavirus updates were actually pretty popular, both within Kentucky and beyond.