Discuss anything and everything related to the Transformers Live Action Films franchise, which are directed by Michael Bay. Transformers 3 is scheduled to be released on July 1st, 2011. Check out our Live Action Film section here.

During a recent interview ILM's Scott Farrar talked about the possibility of another Transformers sequel. He says Paramount has already approached him for a fourth film, and he seems to confirm that director Michael Bay has also been contacted. No confirmation of course, but Farrar says he's on board for another film.

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

Meh, it's all talk right now. I'll get happy when there's actually something concrete. If they were smart, they'd wait 5-6 years for the next film. Bring the next trilogy out in 2- or 3-year increments.

............."We're gonna see just how much Rod they can handle!"............

NOOOO!!! No No No f'ing NO! Cut them off right now! The first 3, while decent enough, had serious flaws by the end of the last film and releasing more will just add to the continuity sh**-storm that the first trilogy became. Stop them now while they are still on top because continuing the series will just turn it all into a farce and complete and utter crap-fest. Next time around they are going to do something lame like bringing Unicron into the mix or some other b.s. idea. They need to focus on the animated series and toy production and leave the live-action alone for another 5 or so years.

OH HELL YEAH!!! this is the greatest move franchise of all time... Hellz to they yeah to keep this going... more epicness, more toys, more Linkin Park. Best news ever!!! now get to work. I need a transforming aircraft carrier and a stealth bomber!!!!

Well... it wood be nice. But they have to change a lot of things, the movies were turned into comedies. The Transformers should be sirius, like the new Batman movies or like The Matrix or Terminator movies. And the editing and storyline are all over the place, they just put anything and everything all over the place, it doesnt flow properly. They also had characters in the movies that basicly were'nt even in the movies, no screen time at all. Just one exsample, Megatron and Starsceam, were barely in the movies and there supposed to be main characters,"What The Hell". Plus other characters which only had two seconds of sceen time!

There are too many mistakes in the movies, I could go on and on but I won't.I vote for James Cameron to take over the next three films and I am positive they will be even more epic then the first three.

One of my biggest problems with these movie is that they aren't Transformers movies. They're Shia LaBeouf movies with some Transformers as guest stars and supporting cast. The Transformers play second fiddle to the humans in their own movies.

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

Sabrblade wrote:One of my biggest problems with these movie is that they aren't Transformers movies. They're Shia LaBeouf movies with some Transformers as guest stars and supporting cast. The Transformers play second fiddle to the humans in their own movies.

QFT.

I kept asking myself what was missing in the TF movies that should have made me really LOVE them. And then I realized that there were too many humans, too much unnecessary comedy, and WAY TOO MUCH Shia. The first two movies felt more like, "Shia's Comedy Hour Featuring The Transformers."

That said, I think DOTM did a far better job at balancing the screen time and plot emphasis between Shia and the TF's. IMO, DOTM is the only TF movie of the three that actually FEELS like a TF movie.

Sabrblade wrote:One of my biggest problems with these movie is that they aren't Transformers movies. They're Shia LaBeouf movies with some Transformers as guest stars and supporting cast. The Transformers play second fiddle to the humans in their own movies.

QFT.

I kept asking myself what was missing in the TF movies that should have made me really LOVE them. And then I realized that there were too many humans, too much unnecessary comedy, and WAY TOO MUCH Shia. The first two movies felt more like, "Shia's Comedy Hour Featuring The Transformers."

That said, I think DOTM did a far better job at balancing the screen time and plot emphasis between Shia and the TF's. IMO, DOTM is the only TF movie of the three that actually FEELS like a TF movie.

The problem with DOTM is that 90% of the Decepticons are nameless generics instead of actual characters. Starscream, Soundwave, SHOCKWAVE, Barricade, Igor, the Dreads, all of them are wasted in their performances doing little more than just being "bad guys". Only difference between them and the generics are that they have names.

The only Con in any of the trilogy that was actually a good character with excellent screentime, characterization, execution, and personality all together was Laserbeak. Everyone else was only about as half as good as him or worse.

And DOTM still had too much Shia. Right at the moment we were told that Sam gave back Bumblebee was the moment I knew he'd still be stealing the spotlight in this one.

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Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

Sabrblade wrote:The problem with DOT is that 90% of the Decepticons are nameless generics instead of actual characters. Starscream, Soundwave, SHOCKWAVE, Barricade, Igor, the Dreads, all of them are wasted in their performances doing little more than just being "bad guys". Only difference between them and the generics are that they have names.

pretty much the case with all 3 films.

Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe

Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds

T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach

T-Macksimus wrote:NOOOO!!! No No No f'ing NO! Cut them off right now! The first 3, while decent enough, had serious flaws by the end of the last film and releasing more will just add to the continuity sh**-storm that the first trilogy became. Stop them now while they are still on top because continuing the series will just turn it all into a farce and complete and utter crap-fest. Next time around they are going to do something lame like bringing Unicron into the mix or some other b.s. idea. They need to focus on the animated series and toy production and leave the live-action alone for another 5 or so years.

While i do agree they should wait before releasing new movies,i disagree on the whole "the movies are a continuity mess" thing.

Starscreamers wrote:Well... it wood be nice. But they have to change a lot of things, the movies were turned into comedies. The Transformers should be sirius, like the new Batman movies or like The Matrix or Terminator movies.There are too many mistakes in the movies, I could go on and on but I won't.I vote for James Cameron to take over the next three films and I am positive they will be even more epic then the first three.

Sure the movies had moments that were meant to be jokes,but a comedy movie is a exaggeration,every Transformers series had its jokes.The Transformers movies are serious.

TulioDude wrote:Sure the movies had moments that were meant to be jokes,but a comedy movie is a exaggeration,every Transformers series had its jokes.The Transformers movies are serious.

The jokes outweighed the serious moments in these movies. They made fools out of themselves with jokes that weren't funny at all.

And their serious moments were the wrong kind of seriousness. They were dark for the sake of being dark. The right kind of seriousness these movies needed was gravitas, and there's little to none of that in these movies.

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

TulioDude wrote:Sure the movies had moments that were meant to be jokes,but a comedy movie is a exaggeration,every Transformers series had its jokes.The Transformers movies are serious.

The jokes outweighed the serious moments in these movies. They made fools out of themselves with jokes that weren't funny at all.

And their serious moments were the wrong kind of seriousness. They were dark for the sake of being dark. The right kind of seriousness these movies needed was gravitas, and there's little to none of that in these movies.

Sometimes I do wonder if the jokes were bad partially doe to the overacting from the people who played the characters [Leo and that Jerry Wang guy were particularly bad ham actors].

But yeah, I personally found some of the jokes inappropriate for the situation, such as that sarcastic quip Meering made when she interrupted Sentinel and Optimus' conversation--the one that went, "...you can't simply bring weapons of mass destruction in our atmosphere. Kinda have to clear customs first, etc."

But yeah, I personally found some of the jokes inappropriate for the situation, such as that sarcastic quip Meering made when she interrupted Sentinel and Optimus' conversation--the one that went, "...you can't simply bring weapons of mass destruction in our atmosphere. Kinda have to clear customs first, etc."

I dont think that was meant to be joke.

Sabrblade wrote:The jokes outweighed the serious moments in these movies. They made fools out of themselves with jokes that weren't funny at all.

And their serious moments were the wrong kind of seriousness. They were dark for the sake of being dark. The right kind of seriousness these movies needed was gravitas, and there's little to none of that in these movies.

I dont know,i wasnt much bothered with the jokes.I was like"A joke.Moving on."I guess its more of a opinion thing than a fact thing.

TulioDude wrote:I dont know,i wasnt much bothered with the jokes.I was like"A joke.Moving on."I guess its more of a opinion thing than a fact thing.

The point is that these movies need more gravitas, more sincerity, less college stoner humor, and less unnecessary humans (keep only the necessary humans, a random guy off the side making some wise-cracks for just one scene is not necessary).

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

But yeah, I personally found some of the jokes inappropriate for the situation, such as that sarcastic quip Meering made when she interrupted Sentinel and Optimus' conversation--the one that went, "...you can't simply bring weapons of mass destruction in our atmosphere. Kinda have to clear customs first, etc."

I dont think that was meant to be joke.

It has to be a joke, at least the last two sentences about clearing customs and that "it's what separates us from the animals" thing. I doubt any sane person actually expects a bunch of Cybertronians to line up at the customs counter to declare their belongings and go through a pat down. And if it wasn't a joke, it was a distasteful, humorless remark.

If she meant that the TF's have to allow humans to check what items they bring to Earth, just say it plain and simple. Trying to make it sound funny by turning it into a joke just annoys me. I can't recall if anyone laughed at that remark in the cinema, [don't think so] but I certainly didn't.

Fact of the matter is, that Meering character has been acting like a two-bit comedienne wannabe from the moment she appeared on screen. In both TF1 and DOTM, there always seems to be a government personnel who acts like they're auditioning for a stand-up comedy gig. IMO besides Jon Voight, Morshower and Banachek, Galloway is the only believable government guy in all three of the movies, because despite his attitude, he doesn't have a habit of acting like Meering and Simmons.

Speaking of Simmons, I like him a lot more as a civilian, because I can believe in a normal guy acting like that. As an agent from a top secret government agency, I doubt his superiors would have tolerated that kind of idiocy.

And yes, I know it's a movie about transforming alien robots, but it's precisely because the premise is so hard to suspend disbelief on that such minor details should be meticulously believable.

Yeah, I know... TL;DR.

Sabrblade wrote:

TulioDude wrote:I dont know,i wasnt much bothered with the jokes.I was like"A joke.Moving on."I guess its more of a opinion thing than a fact thing.

The point is that these movies need more gravitas, more sincerity, less college stoner humor, and less unnecessary humans (keep only the necessary humans, a random guy off the side making some wise-cracks for just one scene is not necessary).

Totally agree with you there. While it's probably a matter of personal taste, I just don't like that kind of humor in my TF movies.

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

I think a more appropriate phrase would be "a movie about a guy whose life features transforming alien robots."

There's that "It's not a Transformers movie" arguement again. Is it fun living with your head in the sand? Is it at least comfortable?

Seriously, you give the fandom a bad name.

Is it wrong to ask for the bots to be the stars of their own movies? I don't get why some people WANT them to shifted into the background. Seriously, they're the most interesting characters in these movies (barring the Twins, that is), and yet they're used more as plot devices instead of main characters.

When watching Batman or Superman, I want to focus on Bruce Wayne or Clark Kent in the prominent role, not James Gordon or Jimmy Olsen. Why can't the same be applied to these movies?

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'