Yeah, at the end of the day, it's a real shame that two bona fide legends have fallen out, whatever the in's and out's of it all. I blame that shit Doyle but then again the copter pastiche was pretty hilarious.

I've just realised that by posting this, I have probably joined the ranks of the Cyberwankers, dammit.

Can’t blame me pal when I posted the pic it had been reported that there was no bad blood and Caff wasn’t too miffed and had given the OK. pic was just a bit of fun , and it’s all gone belly up since .

Exactly. My housemate just read the Peak Rock extract about ‘Ninth Life’, with Jerry and Woodward.

“Moffat was so incensed that he pinched such a plumb line that he never spoke to him again”

Then there are Dawes’ accusations against Fawcett for chipping that Millstone Route (Scritto’s was it?)

In retrospect these actions and confrontations add flavour to the history of climbing. It just seems quite vulgar when it’s happening live online, rather than through word of mouth or magazines after the fact.

Barrows nicked a first ascent from me twice. He still doesn’t know what I did in retaliation...

from Caff on Instagram: I've reread our comms Steve and I have been a twat. You were just being pushy and I thought I would have more time between work. I had put some fucking time and energy into that fucking route though

In retrospect these actions and confrontations add flavour to the history of climbing. It just seems quite vulgar when it’s happening live online, rather than through word of mouth or magazines after the fact.

Exactly, this is the sort of “controversy” “characters” “passion” “irreverence” etc. that are supposed to only have existed in the good old days.

Ironic that it’s kicked off on Instagram given that’s routinely cited as the reason for this sort of thing’s supposed death- climbing must be one of very few aspects of modern life that are considered to have been made less acrimonious by social media.