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taralon-capacity is 355gr water.
spiggy..we plan on getting pics and video
when good weather gets here.

Antibubba- this even, as big as it is, isn't
ultimate stopper for game, bunch of us are going to
make 2 and 4 bores.I also have 700HE with more
power to test in a couple months, and down
the road the 900HE.Here is pic for
your pleasure, of 4 our bore cases,
with 2000gr bullets, next to 20mm brass we make
them from, and 06 case for comparison.Ed.

Third Rail
Others have built 4 bores and haven't even had to deal
with atf or even bothered by them.In fact colarado guy built
some in falling blocks, guy in TN built some in doubles,
guy in AK built and was written upin magazines,distributor
in midwest imported and sold large number of 4 bore russian
pump guns, and I know 2 guys who have them and haven't been bothered or do the registration bit, with 200buck tax.
If it becomes an issue we will just send in papers and get it registered as sporting use like I did my 700. ATF isn't
all on same track, but the one dept that checks over 50cal
stuff for sporting use/dd exemption has approved all that
have asked.Ed.

You send them aletter requesting an exemption for your
cartridge,asking for it to be registered for sporting use.
Also include a description of the sporting type
arms used in, like break actions, falling block actions,
bolt actions. Must send in drawing of case with dimensions.
Then wait.
Back to 12GA from Hell--Here is pic of case in a
modified Martini Greener..Sometime will try to build a heavy
wall version with changes to use case in.By building
wider and thicker, can change pivot hookup, it will handle
long case, It was originally regular 12ga action.Ed.

I thought Rob's Borchardt actioned rifle looked familiar, then I ran across a photo of it's greatgrandfather. Only 5000 pounds, maybe I could find a couple of guys to go in on it.

What is it? Cogswell & Harrison 8 bore falling block. Nitro proofed, but for round balls. An old school beauty, I posted the pic to show just how close Rob's gun follows the work of a London gun makers falling block single. I think the family resemblence in uncanny.

Here is a picture of the bolt holding a case.The top
of the bolt is to camera and up where top lug
is and I wanted to show extension
added to left lower lug that holds case along with
top lug extension and extractor on opposite side...Ed

Got folks going to use NEF Ultra II slug guns,
by lengthening chamber.These are heavy barrel 12ga
built on a 10ga NEF frame.I started out with 305
brasswith rims on and have only 75 left.They
have got the fever..Ed

Got folks going to use NEF Ultra II slug guns,
by lengthening chamber.These are heavy barrel 12ga
built on a 10ga NEF frame.I started out with 305
brasswith rims on and have only 75 left.They
have got the fever..Ed

Balog--At pressures in my gun, max 30-35,000, never wear
them out.Have to anneal top third every 50 rounds.One fired 33 times and no sizing needed on bottom half.

For 4 bore bullet bullets they use big hydraulic
press(A Corbin) to make jackets from copper sheets
and then to press lead and jacket together.Also there is
a company that now makes jackets with a huge factory
stamping press, supplying bullet makers.Ed.

Some have been mentioning using guns with lenghtened
chambers and our case for deer in shotgun hunting areas.
Already been fired once in an Encore 12ga. There was a
discussion of game wardens. etc. Well most shotguns
smooth and rifled have 12 GA and the length stamped
on barrels.There is 2 1/2, 2 3/4, 3, 3 1/2, so I say
stamp ours "12 GA 3 3/4 FH". Any thoughts from folks
here about this.Ed.

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