Vince Young is an emo kid, let's all point and laugh at crying Vince Young.

Okay, now that that's done; what does the future hold for the 2006 OROY? The Titans have been the definition of a steady ship since he lost the wheel. As far back as 2006 there have been voices in the crowd proclaiming the defense the real reason behind the Titans' resurgence and that's borne out as the truth.

Does that mean Vince is worthless to the Titans? Is he done with them? Kerry Collins is a million years old and barring a Jim Plunkett scenario they are going to need a QB eventually and I think it's fair to ask at this point if VY is their long term solution.

His ceiling is still extremely high, but now you have to throw head issues into the pot with "funky release", "inconsistent ball placement" and "questionable decision making." Is this the QB of a team that is going to be defense oriented, run first, for the forseeable future? Even allotting that he matures with time, I'm not sure we'll ever see consistency from him at the level a vet like Kerry provides.

I'm not trying to hate on VY, but personally I think the writing is on the wall for him in TN and props to them because they're 9-0 with a 3rd overall pick parked on their bench and a 6th overall pick in Goodell's purgatory.

So where does he go? Who would want him? There are plenty of teams without long term solutions at QB, so let's look at what might fit him.

KC: Herm Edwards is a players' coach and they're a young developing team, so I could maybe see it happening. However, Thigpen is playing lights out and they're likely to draft a QB high anyway.

Houston: The hometown team has been up and down, but mostly down, with Schaub. Who knows, but maybe.

Jets: Yeah right. But I'm going through the divisions in my head and once Favre retires, Clemmens doesn't exactly have a lock on the job. But if the media scrutiny was too intense in freaking Tennessee...

San Fran: Bizarre fit but the Shaun Hill era doesn't exactly have a great ring to it. Martz's presence obviously kills his shot here but the likelihood of Martz staying in any job more than a couple seasons is pretty low. They've had some success with mobile QBs though, I've heard. :) Then again, they tend to be accurate ones, which VY is not.

Buccaneers: Gruden+Young=no.

Carolina: I'm gonna give Delhomme the benefit of the doubt here and say he's not close to being done by a long shot.

Minnesota: Not likely after the Tarvaris Jackson experiment.

Detroit: I'm not sure but if Calvin gets a vote the answer is probably no. He played with Reggie Ball for too long.

Chicago: Is neckbeard the answer?

So if you've managed to get all the way down here, here's my question to you: is there a starting spot for Vince Young somewhere in the league? How much more developing will he be doing--how drastically have our expectations of him changed? Will he ever redeem himself?

I think he'll stay in Tennessee for a while - if he sorts his head out then I could easily become a starting calibre QB and his ceiling is ridiculous. Maybe some time to watch and learn is what he needs.

Vince Young is an emo kid, let's all point and laugh at crying Vince Young.

I wanted to vote "Counseling" but it's not an option.

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Originally Posted by CC.SD

San Fran: Bizarre fit but the Shaun Hill era doesn't exactly have a great ring to it. Martz's presence obviously kills his shot here but the likelihood of Martz staying in any job more than a couple seasons is pretty low. They've had some success with mobile QBs though, I've heard. :) Then again, they tend to be accurate ones, which VY is not.

He still has a lot of potential to be great in Tennessee. But let me just say some things first. I think that people who thought he would take some time to adjust to the NFL were right. There were 4 major reasons for his success in his rookie year. First, and most important, Kerry Collins made the Titans look much worse than they were. He was very new to the offense, and it showed. Vince took over a team that was not actually a top-5 pick contender. Second was the defense. It wasn't a statistically great unit by any means, but it came up big when it mattered, and got stronger when Vince was playing. Third is plain dumb luck. When you get sacked, but the guy lets go of you, that is luck. When the opposing QB throws a boneheaded pick in the last minute like that, it's dumb luck. When you're kicker makes a 62-yard game winner, that is pretty lucky(but no disrespect to Bironas, he's great. Just there is a reason why 62 is only one yard shy of the record). And the final reason is a lack of familiarity. The AFC South faced Vick just once, his injury shortened year of 2003(the only AFC south team to not face him at all was TN). So QBs that mobile was not something the division, and the conference as a whole were used to seeing. This made him difficult to plan for because there was no NFL film of him at the time.

I think his early successes got to his head. He needs to take the time to relax, learn to be humble and begin to learn how to pass effectively. He'll always be a running threat, but unfortunately he seems to get hurt from that so he can't rely on it as his main weapon. But if he can become an above average passer, his running ability(provided he stays healthy) will make him a top flight QB. Will that happen in Tenn? Well they won't cut him, and Collins is old. So unless they get a big trade offer, I expect him to get his shot there. If he can't, I'm not sure he can do it anywhere.

Yatta! actually has a good point--Vince, of the 3 2006 QBs, was supposed to be the developmental project, the guy who needed time. He got off to such a hot start he never got to watch--maybe Kerry will show him the way he needs to play to become a steadying force.

I LOVE what the Titans are doing with him, let him sit and learn, if he was ever going to be a good QB this was the way to let it happen...Collins isn't the future, but it's his team now and he's an experienced vet, I was excited for Vince to learn behind McNair but it never got to happen so I think he should sit this entire year, learn how Kerry moves the chains, prepares, doesn't make mistakes, and it will help him overall.

The verdict is still out on Vince and Leinart, I'm not ready to call them a bust, but it will tell ALOT about each guy with how they show up next year...They are both in good spots now, but you have to want it, and if Vince does the little things he needs to do now he can go on and lead this team next year.

He doesn't have to make alot of plays with his arm like Cutler because of the way this team is built, and he can present more of a threat with his legs, he's just got to work on his footwork, making the simple throws, I still believe he can be a good starter but he should come back next year much improved otherwise it's gonna be safe to call him a bust.

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What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.

One thing that has been noted is that QB's who played in college in a pro style offense not only adjust to the NFL game extremely well, but also have a better career production. that being said, Vince Young played in a gimmick offense at Texas and needs to learn how to really play the game in Tennessee while on the bench.

Wasn't there instant replay during that game?? Still, that was probably one of the best moments in my life when we won that game :D

If i remember correctly, it did get reviewed.. I'm almost positive. Let me wiki it

Edit- Nevermind. From Wikipedia

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The lateral, which appeared to have been made after Young's knee had touched the ground, was not reviewed because of issues with the replay equipment. The game continued with a failed extra point attempt by Texas, which, not knowing of the equipment issues, appeared to rush the attempt hoping to get the play off before the previous play could be reviewed.

Yahoo! Sports has learned the wrong television feed had been plugged into one of the monitors of the video replay system. The mistake meant that replay officials did not have the necessary camera angle to properly review Texas' first touchdown. A replay official said the feed mixup might have led to another mistake earlier in the game. On that play, it was ruled that USC's Reggie Bush fumbled

I wouldn't mind him sitting next year either. We really do need a go-to WR badly. I know some of my fellow fans and other prognosticators say we are a ball control/run oriented offense and don't need to pass that much. However, if the Titans were going to stay this way long term I don't believe they would've brought back Heimerdinger and used a number 3 overall pick on a QB just to manage the game. If we give him maybe another year of learning and one or two nice targets in the passing game, I think he can become a successful NFL QB. Also, his time on the bench this season has probably served his ego well. Whenever I watch a Titans game I hardly ever see the camera on him on the sidelines and the announcers don't really talk about him either.

I thought that was just the defense and running game saving him while he threw INT after INT?

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San Fran: Bizarre fit but the Shaun Hill era doesn't exactly have a great ring to it. Martz's presence obviously kills his shot here but the likelihood of Martz staying in any job more than a couple seasons is pretty low. They've had some success with mobile QBs though, I've heard. :) Then again, they tend to be accurate ones, which VY is not