sorry but theres no way you can honestly say that without even knowing how tigran is as a leader i never said kelvin was bad i'm just saying Tigran was the leader of arguably 1 of the most powerful and succesful alliances

That is exactly why I have him top of the list. Please do not forget about Kane.

kane got his butt whooped by ARM every round

Kevin lost a round to ARM? When? I would like to see this. HoF entry please?

There are a couple of solid teams in the CE from what I can see. Regarding ARM beating Kane, I am one of the elite "pats self on back" ARM members, to where I do not ever recall a win against Kevin......even though that would have been a excellent war

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