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Help Needed

01-27-2009, 09:16 AM

Hey Guys,

Im planning as part of My fabrication project In colledge to buil a set of truck ramps strong enough to support a 6,000Lbs Truck if any one has any blue prints or other plans they would like to share it would be awsome and well appreciated

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Do you need calculations to go with this? A 6000 lb truck is light. A trip to an auto parts store can give you most of the dimentional info you need.

The cheap auto parts set I had originally worked but were made of sheetmetal and not tall enough for what I wanted. I used to have a set made from 12" C channel. The were more than adequate for my 9000- 11000 lb pickup. They weighed a ton but worked great. The design was similar to the cheap set but made of heavier material. The C faced up like this |____|.

The ones like at new car dealers are most likely like the ones on our heavy equipment trailer. 3" C channel sides with angle iron cross members. I can easily see that being more than adequate, but more work would be involved.

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Look, this is going to sound harsh but it is the same advice I am currently giving to my son who is trying to short cut. Do the homework, if you need someone to run math for you go over to the mechanical engineering department and enlist some help. At work in the real world if I don't have the capability to do something I have to either learn it of find someone who can help me. Not just give me the answers.

There are a couple of guys on this forum who are constantly looking for someone to do the work for them, don't be one of them. Learn the lessons and do the hard work. I know it's not the PC thing to do or say but step up, you can do this, many of us have and are better for it. Don't be the guy looking for the golden answer because there are plenty of guys who will give you the wrong answer and make it sound right. If you can't do the work then you won't know the difference.

Take the time and do the right thing. It always pays off.

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Look, this is going to sound harsh but it is the same advice I am currently giving to my son who is trying to short cut. Do the homework, if you need someone to run math for you go over to the mechanical engineering department and enlist some help. At work in the real world if I don't have the capability to do something I have to either learn it of find someone who can help me. Not just give me the answers.

There are a couple of guys on this forum who are constantly looking for someone to do the work for them, don't be one of them. Learn the lessons and do the hard work. I know it's not the PC thing to do or say but step up, you can do this, many of us have and are better for it. Don't be the guy looking for the golden answer because there are plenty of guys who will give you the wrong answer and make it sound right. If you can't do the work then you won't know the difference.

Take the time and do the right thing. It always pays off.

Your post is as useful, as a football bat!. Really, their is such a thing as being neighborly, and helping people out from time to time, I do it all the time. If you didnt want to help the guy, then dont post, dont be the guy who thinks he knows it all, and judges someone off the bat thinking this guy is a free loader. How did you learn?, probably from someone else, and Im sure that person didnt keep information from you, he gave it to you willingly, and then you go and pay it foward by being a pecker, good job my man, good job!

If you want peace, be prepared for war!

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Your post is as useful, as a football bat!. Really, their is such a thing as being neighborly, and helping people out from time to time, I do it all the time. If you didnt want to help the guy, then dont post, dont be the guy who thinks he knows it all, and judges someone off the bat thinking this guy is a free loader. How did you learn?, probably from someone else, and Im sure that person didnt keep information from you, he gave it to you willingly, and then you go and pay it foward by being a pecker, good job my man, good job!

Amen Brother! AMEN!!!!!

Semper Fi!

OhioDave

HOTsdale AZ

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CRUZ,
In order for your opinion to count I would have to care what you say, I don't.
You have demonstrated in my opinion no redeeming value in any of these threads. So stay on here and keep taking scraps from others as you can beg for them. There is a lot to learn from open dialog but you constantly seem to be asking for someone to do your homework for you. Yes I was referring to you in my post.

My post was intended to tell him that HE CAN DO IT. Many have and become very succesful through hard work. I would have thought that would be something you would have learned in the Corp.(thank you for your service) but apparently on your discharge it was lost.

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CRUZ,
In order for your opinion to count I would have to care what you say, I don't.
You have demonstrated in my opinion no redeeming value in any of these threads. So stay on here and keep taking scraps from others as you can beg for them. There is a lot to learn from open dialog but you constantly seem to be asking for someone to do your homework for you. Yes I was referring to you in my post.

My post was intended to tell him that HE CAN DO IT. Many have and become very succesful through hard work. I would have thought that would be something you would have learned in the Corp.(thank you for your service) but apparently on your discharge it was lost.

I asked for all your guys help a while back once, and you translate that into my asking you guys all the time to do the leg work, your pathetic. I do add value to my posts when I help out others in this forum, but you fail to see that, but whatever. You must care about what I have to say, because you cared enough to reply to my post, because maybe, just maybe you realized you were being a @#$% to the author of this thread. I see it allot on this forum, and I could care less for people like that. I will continue to help people out, or what you consider the legwork, because thats the kinda guy I am, cheers buddy.

Semper Fi, to you too Ohiodave, Yutttttttttttttt!!!!!!

If you want peace, be prepared for war!

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Im(insert apostrophe) planning as part of My(improper capitalization) fabrication project In colledge(college is mispelled) to buil(build is misspelled) a set of truck ramps strong enough to support a 6,000Lbs(it is lb, not Lbs... see note below) Truck(improper capitalization)(insert period) if(capitalize first word of sentence) any one(anyone is one word) has any blue prints(blueprints is one word) or other plans they would like to share(insert comma) it would be awsome(awesome is misspelled) and well appreciated(missing period)

Thanks,
Raymaker!

I think the reason diamondback jumped on his case is because he asked for help with a college project, yet he was unable to write a paragraph with even 3rd grade level grammar and punctuation. And we would have forgiven every error if he didn't misspell "college." That was as painful as watching a brain surgeon make his incision in the abdomen.

And it makes us wonder if he's in college because he's had others do his work all his life.

BTW, The abbreviation for pounds is lb, from the Latin "libra" meaning "scales or balances" which is already plural. Lbs is a redundant pluralization like "Hzs" for "Hertzs" or "cpss" for "cycles per second."

80% of failures are from 20% of causesNever compromise your principles today in the name of furthering them in the future."All I ever wanted was an honest week's pay for an honest day's work." -Sgt. Bilko"We are generally better persuaded by reasons we discover ourselves than by those given to us by others." -Pascal"Since we cannot know all that there is to be known about anything, we ought to know a little about everything." -Pascal

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I gotta weigh in on this thread. I'm an old geezer and have mentored a bunch of young folks. A couple of observations:
- You'all are exactly right for jumping on this young man for submitting such a poorly written post, particularly when a spell checker is available. In the past I've even been more critical of young folks who write poorly written emails. One of the best learning experiences can be a heavy slap up side the head.
- However, if you want young folks, or inexperienced folks (like me) to continue to participate in this forum, I think the way in which you criticize someone should be a bit more tolerant. As a business owner, I would never criticize someone like this in public - but I've sure given a few ass chewings (did I spell that correct?) in private. A Private Message may have been a better choice for a young man new to this forum.
- Whether this young man realizes it or not, he just got a real big life lesson. He can be offended by these posts, or learn from them; his choice. And, we all might learn something from how this email thread sounds.

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MT Bob if there was any critisism involved it was "tea party" polite, and there was certainly no "azz chewing" that I see anywhere in the thread. But then I've got thick skin and don't get all hurt by interweb post's either.

I can understand the original question, the guy doesn't know and is looking for an answer.
I also understand the response, I'll pharaphrase: you'll learn more by learning where to find the answer in real life as opposed to a quick answer on the net. I agree with that take, I have to search out answers every week to things I don't know how to do, and that capability of finding the right people for the right thing has served me pretty well in my business.

I'll add that spelling correctly (and I'm a serial killer of both grammer and spelling) is a major plus in dealing with people who have a lot of money to spend doing business with me. Spell check is my friend, and my wife/chic/office manager's grasp of grammer is helpfull as well.

Anyone that's offended by the opinions put forth in this very civilized thread, would really have a hard time walking on one of our job sites as the boys would have them reduced to tears before lunch time
If they weren't giving me a steady stream of semi-good natured grief, I'd think they didn't love me anymore

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Well having just joined this forum and have been greeted with this thread!! What a warm welcome!

I am affraid that I do know of people who will try and 'freeload' off of others, however I do like to think that there are people out there who can and will lend a hand when appropriate.

As far as this guys spelling and punctuation, hey i'm not the best at either but I do try and some people are better at using their hands than the academic side of things. I dont see that his spelling and punction problems is in any way a good excuse for someone to start laying into the poor fella!

Anyway as for the original post, I cant help but hope your project goes ok.