The PSU can be carried over to a new build down the road, the SSD as well. The GPU can be picked up down the road and what the inital leaks of HI Islands is showing you may see a drop in the 7xx cards soon.

That or just wait till black friday.

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SmokeStacksThe Myth, the Legend, the Bowman, the Shambler FuckerRegistered Userregular

I can't agree more with everyone saying to get a good PSU. On my last build I got a OCZ since it was cheaper than Corsair. After my upgrades the OCZ died within 2 weeks and I ended up getting a Corsair anyway, would have been better to spend the extra $$ back then.

I can second the PSU thing. Invest in that, as it will last you the longest if you do it right.

I'm actually looking for a new one myself, I have 750TX from Corsair and it works great but I wanted something fully modular. Can anyone recommend the RM series at 750 or 850 from Corsair?

Also, I want to get an SSD but I don't think I can afford enough space for my games, just a C drive for the OS. If I use it just for my OS and keep my games on a HDD will there be any improvement worthwhile?

I'm going to slow down and try to be patient so I can build something that will last me a while.

I downloaded a program to check my CPU temperature and it sits around 79 degrees Celsius. Is that normal? My computer is so loud, it's like a jet engine.

Get in there with a can of air and clean out the heatsink. Do you have the stock heatsink? If you are looking to quiet things down you can always get a bigger aftermarket heatsink that will be less noisy.

I'm going to slow down and try to be patient so I can build something that will last me a while.

I downloaded a program to check my CPU temperature and it sits around 79 degrees Celsius. Is that normal? My computer is so loud, it's like a jet engine.

Get in there with a can of air and clean out the heatsink. Do you have the stock heatsink? If you are looking to quiet things down you can always get a bigger aftermarket heatsink that will be less noisy.

Yeah, I'm just using the stock heatsink. It's been almost 3 years I think, could the thermal paste I put on be running out?

And I'm definitely looking to make my computer less noisy. I can hear it from any room in the house.

I'm going to slow down and try to be patient so I can build something that will last me a while.

I downloaded a program to check my CPU temperature and it sits around 79 degrees Celsius. Is that normal? My computer is so loud, it's like a jet engine.

Get in there with a can of air and clean out the heatsink. Do you have the stock heatsink? If you are looking to quiet things down you can always get a bigger aftermarket heatsink that will be less noisy.

Yeah, I'm just using the stock heatsink. It's been almost 3 years I think, could the thermal paste I put on be running out?

And I'm definitely looking to make my computer less noisy. I can hear it from any room in the house.

So what I'm hearing is you want to scrap the entire thing and build an entire new rig from the ground up.

It's a wash, so totally your call. I'm a personal fan of Samsung so I'm using two 840 non-Pro SSDs.

And going forward, I would not pull the trigger on any SSD in the future that isn't $0.70/GB or cheaper. Expect a slew of sales as we get closer to the US Holidays.

It might be a pure performance wash, but based on other factors like reliability and stability, the Samsung is by far the better bet. Anything with an SS-2281 inside just isn't worth the potential (BSODs) and guaranteed (borderline nonfunctional TRIM) troubles, however cheap it is.

To build a quiet computer, you really have to build the whole computer with noise levels in mind. Let me take you through what I ended up doing.

Seasonic X-750 PSU, which runs fanless up to about 300 watts, and has a 16 dB quiet mode up to 500 watts.Noctua CP12 SE14 CPU cooler, a variable speed 140mm fan cooler that's as quiet as 10 dB and only as loud as 19 dB.Fractal Designed Mini mATX case, which has sound proofing, a bottom mounted PSU (so no heat from the PSU vents inside the case), and a straight path air flow (the best way to cool, thus allowing your fans to run slower).
An extra Fractal 120mm case fan, to have positive air pressure for maximum cooling (2 fans inflow, 1 fan outflow), so the fans can run slower/quieter most of the time, typically a mere 12 dB.ASUS 650 Ti Boost 2gb GPU, which has been rated as being very quiet and uses less than 150 watts, which allows my PSU to run in quiet mode, even when the GPU is going all out.Samsung 840 Pro 256gb SSD, a low power SSD (less than 1 watt), that's large enough for my day to day software, so I rarely need to spin up my raid drives. In fact, my WD Red raid 1 HDs make the most noise, by far, in my entire set up.

Note that normal breathing is 10 dB and a whisper is about 20 dB, so under most situations, my computer is as quiet as normal breathing, and even under extreme conditions, it only gets as loud as a whisper.

All of this will go in my current case, after I dust it out. It's a good case, just needs a good cleaning. And I will be using my 250g HDD for backup storage. Also will be using my 8gigs ddr3 ram.

It may be next monday at the earliest that I will be able to order. So I appreciate any more advice in the meantime.

The 212+ comes with TIM so you don't need any Silver5 really unless you want to use that instead, the mobo might not be able to overclock as the H87s aren't meant to do so. If yo don't plan on overclocking you can drop the processor down to a non-k model and save some cash.

Also you NEED to measure your case before you order that card to make sure it fits or else you might be taking a dremel to the HD cage to trim it out.

Because if you're going to attempt to squeeze that big black monster into your slot you will need to be able to take at least 12 inches or else you're going to have a bad time...

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SmokeStacksThe Myth, the Legend, the Bowman, the Shambler FuckerRegistered Userregular

All of this will go in my current case, after I dust it out. It's a good case, just needs a good cleaning. And I will be using my 250g HDD for backup storage. Also will be using my 8gigs ddr3 ram.

It may be next monday at the earliest that I will be able to order. So I appreciate any more advice in the meantime.

The 212+ comes with TIM so you don't need any Silver5 really unless you want to use that instead, the mobo might not be able to overclock as the H87s aren't meant to do so. If yo don't plan on overclocking you can drop the processor down to a non-k model and save some cash.

Also you NEED to measure your case before you order that card to make sure it fits or else you might be taking a dremel to the HD cage to trim it out.

Because if you're going to attempt to squeeze that big black monster into your slot you will need to be able to take at least 12 inches or else you're going to have a bad time...

I would like to scrounge up enough for a new case too, would you have any recommendations on one that could house that card? And could you recommend a better motherboard?

All of this will go in my current case, after I dust it out. It's a good case, just needs a good cleaning. And I will be using my 250g HDD for backup storage. Also will be using my 8gigs ddr3 ram.

It may be next monday at the earliest that I will be able to order. So I appreciate any more advice in the meantime.

The 212+ comes with TIM so you don't need any Silver5 really unless you want to use that instead, the mobo might not be able to overclock as the H87s aren't meant to do so. If yo don't plan on overclocking you can drop the processor down to a non-k model and save some cash.

Also you NEED to measure your case before you order that card to make sure it fits or else you might be taking a dremel to the HD cage to trim it out.

Because if you're going to attempt to squeeze that big black monster into your slot you will need to be able to take at least 12 inches or else you're going to have a bad time...

I would like to scrounge up enough for a new case too, would you have any recommendations on one that could house that card? And could you recommend a better motherboard?

It's just the H87 part some boards can overclock but most don't so you need to do your research, Z87 boards are made to be overclockers so I'd take a looky-loo at those.

There are short 760 cards, like the ASUS 2gb GTX 760 at 8.6", short enough to fit in nearly all cases. You should be able to find it for about $250.

That said, I'm definitely of the opinion that you could skimp on the 760 and get a 660 or even cheaper, a 650 Ti Boost, and be just fine. You really won't notice the 14% performance drop from the 760 to a 2gb 650 Ti Boost.

The difference in price could get you a good case, like the Fractal Design R4 ATX case for about $110 (plus another $10 for a third 120mm fan). Once you've owned a quiet computer, you'll never go back to a loud one. Plus, it's much easier to build a new computer without ripping your old one completely apart.

I'm speccing out a new machine now, would it be worth it to go for 2x8 GB of ram versus 2x4? Is there any indication that I'm going to need all 32 GB that my motherboard will support? My current machine is still on windows xp with 3 GB, so I'm pretty out of the loop in terms of expectations. My machine will mostly be for gaming, but I'll probably do some coding and video editing on it.

I do a lot of mobile programming on my recently built LGA2011 based system and even with 7-8 VM's w/ maxed out RAM each and using several flavors of Android I only wind up using around 14 of my 32GB of RAM.

I've taken to using 10GB of the excess as a RAMCache for my 2TB Caviar Black storage drive (480GB Crucial M500 SSD is my OS/primary drive). It definitely helps make up some of the performance gap between the 2.

First they came for the Muslims and we said...NOT TODAY MOTHERFUCKERS!

The standard advice is go with 2x4, in part because RAM upgrades are about the easiest you can do. If you find yourself limited by it, you can spend the extra money and add the RAM with no problem. As of right now, I'm not aware of any game that really uses more than 4gb RAM.