Wednesday, July 07, 2010

Posted without comment (other than the implied one...and that one...and that one....)

"Dont use all Gods blessing and say you dont believe him.

You think you dont need him, but you live on His dependency. That ishypocrisy.

In next tv show, i would like that all of your members, create a sunand give to all people that believes what you believe. Or create theair, and give to them. Or create a land, and plant and give food forthem. Not just plant, but create a land where you can plant and give life.

If you dont believe him, dont use air, dont use food that come fromland you dont create. Dont use your car, or ur home, because man usesraw material they didnt create.

I took him up on his challenge and created a sun and air. He can go outside and see the sun. He's probably breathing the air right now. If he doesn't believe me then he needs stop using the sun and air I made especially for him. I mean it's not like these things grow on trees (I should know, I created those as well and if he doesn't believe that he needs to stop using those too).

As bizarre as this email seems, it is probably not too far from what a lot of really indoctrinated xtians believe. Their premise is God exists (even if we don't know all the exact details), so their logic follows.

My parents are good people, even scientifically literate, but I don't think they understand that someone can not believe in God. It just isn't within them to comprehend disbelief because they have always "known." So when I told them I didn't believe, it didn't really register. They thought it was a rebellion. In their opinion, of course I know there is a God, I just don't want to be held to his constraints.

It is very odd, it took me a while to digest. I understood it a bit more when my wife (who never went to church or talked about God) was surprised when I told her I didn't believe. She said "what do you mean?" I asked if she did and she said "of course...I mean, yeah, of course" and then a few months later we were talking to someone else and she mentioned she didn't believe in God to them. She had never said it to me, but I guess she had just never really considered it until I brought it up.

So god's powers are limited to "atmospheric control, nuclear fusion, and teraforming"

So God is about on level of power with a Vorlon?

In seriousness, someone point out to that guy that we only NEED those things god gives us because he supposedly made us to need it. Breeding a kid to be a diabetic and then giving him insulin isn't all that altruistic.

@Ing, since you mentioned Vorlons, your example reminds me of the Jem'Hadar from Deep Space Nine.

They were genetically engineered to be dependent upon a drug that the founders created, but no one else knew how to synthesize. So, not only do the Jem'Hadar owe everything, including their freedom, to their creators, but the founders are also generous for giving them the drug they need.

It's because of people like this that I've lost faith in humanity. I mean, I doubt he's stockpiling nucular bombs or anything, but someone like him is. Have you seen North Korea's leader lately? Insssssaaaaane...

Oh well, at least not everyone is this batshit-foaming-at-the-mouth-about-to-have-an-aneurysm crazy. So, you know. That's something at least.

Note that for all the silliness in this 'argument', its exactly the same rationale behind most presuppositionalist apologetics. This is nothing but a crude extrapolation of theologians who say "You cannot use logic to argue against god, when logic presupposes a god."

I call it the "Rain dance gambit". It goes like this: -Rain dancing causes rain to come. -Even if you can determine a natural process for rain, you wouldn't have rain if it weren't for rain dances.-You cannot therefore discount rain dances, since rain exists, so I win.-...-SHUT UP, I SAID I WIN!

Caffeeine Addicted said: I call it the "Rain dance gambit". It goes like this: -Rain dancing causes rain to come. -Even if you can determine a natural process for rain, you wouldn't have rain if it weren't for rain dances.-You cannot therefore discount rain dances, since rain exists, so I win.

Sort of like the old saying; "if you believe that faeries create rain, then every time it rains you have proof that faeries exist"?

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