This article was interesting, apparently the 4GB and 8GB Zune Flash doesn't support TV out meaning Apple has won that battle. Oh well I probably won't get a video out cable unless I buy a classic since I have only a few videos on my 4GB 3g nano.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/zune-4-8-wont-include-video-out-functionality/_________________"You must control your future by taking command of your present, and fixing and learning from your past."

Apple won the entire battle before it began. I'm just happy the Zune players exist. Someone with big money needs to be pushing Apple a little bit. I think they got a little lazy with the previous generation of iPods. With the exception of screen size and storage capacity in certain players, I think they did much better with this generation.