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Is it possible that we are ABLE TO DISAGREE because we have assumed some rights to do so in our country?

Does that mean they can NOT BE abridged, or taken away? But THAT is off the subject. The subject seems to be that someone has had the gumption to stand up and say that each and every human life is IMPORTANT and deserving of preservation and encouragement to achieve as fully as possible !

That is such a contrary view that it makes some feel threatened and afraid !

What will Phoenix Union graduates, and other high school graduates, face in their lives after high school?

In a country where the cost of higher education used to be affordable, 300% less 30 years ago than what it is now, costs of college degrees and professional degrees are now sky-high and our children are being asked to mortgage their futures to an extortionate banking system in order to get the degrees that will qualify them to work 60-70-hour a week for forty years or more in professional occupations, where many of them will spend the first 30 years of their careers paying down tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars of undismissable student loan debt.

There's a lot of analysis and reporting that needs to be done in the current context, for those who care about getting American legal, economic, and educational systems better aligned with what is JUST. And it's getting to the point where it's not just about what's "just" -- it's about what is functional and sustainable. Sectors that are now barely functional, given the strain they're under, are beginning to break down.

Bitching about Trump's tweets and attending "we're all in this together" safety pin rallies won't get the work that needs to be done, done. Nor will getting lost in Panglossian myths of American exceptionalism get it done.

Even more depressing than where we are as a nation is what people on both sides of the aisle are choosing to say about where we are. The BS we have to listen to in the 24/7 R and D affiliated media circuses bears very little relation to the dangers we actually face.

They still feel it's a better deal than having a Kenyan Muslim running things.

It's better to get fucked over by their own kind than be tolerant with someone that has darker skin.

That's what it's been about since the first day Obama served office. And they sure weren't gonna let it continue with a bleeder in charge. You know, they...meaning the +2 million less of us and the electoral college.

They are so blinded by hate that they just can't see things for what they are. The bigger of 2 evils won, meaning everyone else will lose. Good job 'Murica!

Our Founding Fathers understood the fundamental importance of Public Education in our Democracy; teaching Citizens to Understand and Respect the Diversity in our Democracy; that the very nature of our Democracy creates a Complementary/Interactive, Mutual Dependent Social System with the Requirement to provide Assistance to others when Assistance is Necessary.

The Liberal /Progressive interpretation of our Constitution, in my view, does NOT represent any threat to our Democracy. The real threat, as it always has been, is represented by Ultra Conservatives; those who would ignore the First Amendment of our Constitution; using their "Holy Book" and Money, to impose their Religious/Political views on others.

Our Democracy, as is any Democracy, inherently contentious in the competition of Political Ideologies; initially with the Federalists vs. Anti-Federalists; now with, in the main, Democrats vs. Republicans. We have developed, sadly and dangerously, into a "Democracy" that is controlled by powerful Financial Interests Groups that are using their money to "buy" "Politicians" and, as a result, control the electoral process.

The American Voter need to wake up and participate in the electoral process, at all levels of Government; using their notion of what is in the best interests of all US Citizens and their Understanding of our Constitutionally Protected Liberties. We will lose the latter if we do not.

The question is: as a car driving toward a precipice; are we at the fulcrum or have we moved beyond?

Democracy while it lasts is more bloody than either aristocracy or monarchy. Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide. President John Adams

Let's see. The Constitution was in existence during the period of slavery, when all kinds of human rights abuses were committed, legally, in this country. The Constitution was in existence during the period in which the suffragists were jailed for peacefully demonstrating in favor of women being granted the right to vote. When the suffragists went on hunger strike in the jails where they were imprisoned, asking to be classified as political prisoners and granted the rights of political prisoners, they were force fed. At one point the powers-that-be tried to get at least one of the suffragist leaders committed to a mental institution. These are FACTS in American history. There are others that could be mentioned.

So what was up with the "rights" and "a judicial process that insures those rights" for African Americans before the 13th amendment and women before the 19th amendment? I suppose if some of the commenters in these streams had run across an abolitionist before the 13th amendment or a suffragist before the 19th amendment they would have said "Illegal is illegal - case closed," and the abuses and denial of rights would have continued.

The Constitution is a work in progress. You can respect it and be grateful that we have it without believing that at any given point it is necessarily perfect and necessarily guaranteeing that no failures in the delivery of justice are happening in our country.

On another subject, I'm really tired of the insults and name calling that keep appearing in these streams. Many people are angry about the results of this election, and others are angry about what their political adversaries are saying about the results of this election.

Seems like it should be possible to compare perspectives and opinions without resorting to incivilities.

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Achieving Justice is a work in progress.
on 12/09/2016 at 7:17 AM

"Then Herod sent and killed all the male children in Bethlehem and in all that region who were two years old or under." Matthew 2:16

Legal, according to the law of the day.

There is legal, and then there is ethical. There is legal, and then there is humane.

How many cases throughout history have there been where the law has been out of alignment with what is just? It would be impossible to list them all.

What makes anyone think that American law is more immune from error than German law during the 1930s? Than the law in the USSR during Stalin's purges? Every society has to balance respect for the law with trying to discern cases where what is legal in a particular time and place may not be what is right. That's what individual conscience, for those who believe that such a thing exists, is meant to do.

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Case open, for those who believe in "conscience."
on 12/08/2016 at 6:46 PM

Thank you, David, for highlighting this constructive statement of a commitment to protect and nurture every student in a diverse student body. From what I've heard, Phoenix Union has constructively applied the desegregation funding allocated to it to support student needs and achieve student benefit. The ATTITUDE of leadership -- evidenced In statements like this, in the quality of relationships developed with representatives of the courts and plaintiffs, and in how funds are actually applied in the schools or in central admin or in litigation -- is so important in an educational community serving the underserved. A constructive attitude rigorously focused on student benefit has been sadly lacking in some other districts applying desegregation funds.

Dare I think that that may be part of your point here? No, that would probably be too much to ask.

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Excellent statement; thanks for posting.
on 12/08/2016 at 5:51 PM

"What Again" ..PLEASE...restrict your RACIST/BIGOTED comments to the Arizona Daily Independent (ADI); an Online "Newspaper" for Cowards/Racists/Bigots that Post their HATE under the cover of the Anonymity of a "Pen Name".