May Suffers Second Brexit Defeat

So last night desperate Miss May went of to beg the EU for some more tweeks to the Brexit deal and Parliament have just voted on it and yet again, she
has been defeated, again another embarrassing defeat for her government. Tomorrow the plan is now for a vote on "no-deal", the idea being that
parliament will cast a vote on leaving with no deal, if parliament vote against no-deal then they will move to have a vote on Thursday for the
transition period delayed extending the time frame for negotiation Brexit until after the 29th of March. In other words, it doesn't look like we will
be leaving the EU on the 29th of March.

Remainers can laugh all they like in the knowledge that the government will blatantly rule out no deal but let me tell you... There will be anarchy in
the streets like you have never seen if we extend it and/or ignore the referendum.

I will be locking myself safely indoors when the country starts to burn

Well, we are being carefully engineered by the EU and the Remainer MPs into an extension and a referendum number 2. The narrative of late has all
been about negative politics and the potential for Brexit harm. There was even commentary on the Brexit damage to Crufts (yes, Crufts). This manta
will lead into another referendum and (what some people want) a switch of the outcome.

No wonder people are turned off politics. At least May has been trying, eh?

Its actually been my own experience that Brexit has been engaging people in politics, now its probably not the most popular engagement but its getting
them interested, making them care, so sure our political establishment is basically broken right now but I do think its getting people more interested
and engaged in politics rather than turning them off.

I think we need to wait to see what happens with this extension, we might not even get it even if we vote for it so lets take it one step at a time. a
second referendum is still a long way off.

originally posted by: paraphi
Well, we are being carefully engineered by the EU and the Remainer MPs into an extension and a referendum number 2.

O, I wouldn't say that. You are being carefully engineered, indeed, but not by the EU. You are being engineered towards weakness by enemy states that
are opposed to the EU. These enemy states are deeply (and rightfully) afraid of the EU's economical and political power and do whatever they can to
weaken the EU. They use the media and their straw men to influence the rather dumb minority of your people that, like so many sheeple on this forum,
are susceptible to fear of "foreigners", "immigrants" and "the Islam".

Ask yourself: "cui bono?" - not the UK, as they are now in the worst possible political situation: without a clue what to do and utterly divided
amongst each other. Not the EU either, they loose one of their most respected members. Both will be off worse, that is for sure.

So, it's quite simple: look whom are benefitting from all this. THEY are engineering this situation, not the EU nor the UK.

Did permanent night shift for nearly 12 years.
Loved them at the time but looking back there were a bit of a pain in the arse.

I just think that irrelevant of viewpoint this is the one time we have a moral duty to express our disgust at our politicians and their serial
mishandling of this whole debacle.

Of course I want to push for Brexit but I think its of paramount importance that we let these arseholes know that they are answerable to us, the
people, and they have failed spectacularly in their duty.

Basically the argument is that leaving without a deal would be a total disaster even the hardest of the hardcore Brexit supporters the ERG agree that
it would be best to leave with a deal rather than no deal.

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