Hard to say. I think Sony has learned a lot with the PS3. When u introduce the new PS4 set the price rite. Don't wait years latter to introduce a slim make it now. Update the contoller, not change it. Free online.

I believe Sony have learned from their mistakes with the PS3 so I expect them to launch within 6 months after the 360 or preferably in the same week , Sony can't afford to wait a whole 1 year after the competition. The second point PRICE is an obvious one, while I myself as an hardcore gamer was willing to spit out 599 euros for the PS3 the average joe wasn't just because it had the PS logo on it and I hope sony have realized this.

My guess would be that Sony will try to set the price somewhere between 399-499 euros (449 would be perfect), that is if they don't come up with some new format or expensive tech like they usually do.

hmm, I'm concerned about the possibility of them dropping blu-ray from the PS4. I prefer hard copies of games and Movies and TV shows. And I have quite a few blu-ray discs there so not sure what it would mean for me and others like me. Does that mean that if they do drop blu-ray from PS4 that we'd have to keep hold of the PS3 so we can play the blu-ray discs?

hmm, I'm concerned about the possibility of them dropping blu-ray from the PS4. I prefer hard copies of games and Movies and TV shows. And I have quite a few blu-ray discs there so not sure what it would mean for me and others like me. Does that mean that if they do drop blu-ray from PS4 that we'd have to keep hold of the PS3 so we can play the blu-ray discs?

That'd be very, very stupid on Sony's part to drop Blu Ray. As far as I'm concerned, a download only console is not viable these days. Hard copies of games are a must, and Sony spent a lot to make Blu Ray relevant to win that dumb format war a few years back. I wouldn't be concerned about losing Blu Ray to be honest.

That'd be very, very stupid on Sony's part to drop Blu Ray. As far as I'm concerned, a download only console is not viable these days. Hard copies of games are a must, and Sony spent a lot to make Blu Ray relevant to win that dumb format war a few years back. I wouldn't be concerned about losing Blu Ray to be honest.

I mean what could they do to revolutionise it? I honestly have no idea, After 5 years I still have a love affair with the PS3. Surely all they could do is just slightly improve everything, I can't think of anything I'd want to add to my PS3 tbh.

Well looks like we can knock 2012 out of the running. Sony announced at CES that there will be no PS4 announcements at this years E3 - Not that I expected one. I've been saying 2013 at the earliest and 2014 most likely for several years now (but no later than 1yr after a new XBOX release in case XBOX dropped early - which there's no sign of.)

I mean what could they do to revolutionise it? I honestly have no idea, After 5 years I still have a love affair with the PS3. Surely all they could do is just slightly improve everything, I can't think of anything I'd want to add to my PS3 tbh.

That's why next gen is so exciting. What are they gonna do now that they've done everything. If they just make a more powerful ps3, although disappointing, the games should be awesome. If they can introduce something no one has done yet (skeptical), then it gets interesting.

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