ugh cant wait for e3.The way nvidia had been acting lately I wouldnt be surprised if they are going based off rumors ( tho I doubt it ) Nvidia are so salty right now lol. where was these comparisons when ps3 had your hardware?

this is just plain wrong are you saying UE3 is the same as SSM engine or ND engine or GG engine or RAGE engine or crytek engine etc ?! it's not just bright or contrast it's much more than that you have textuers ,art style,lighting, shadows,AA etc to work on

brightness and contrast are the last thing dev's care about ..since you can always adjust them from your own TV

It's expected through the same sources that leaked the PS4 specs that the CPU will be the same on both consoles and that the RAM will possibly be a bottleneck for gaming (but not for other OS features such as switching between multiple games at once)...

Have you looked at gears 3 and judgement, forza 4 and halo 4 and crysis 2. These games look imo just as good as the ps4 games, I know im going to get a lot of disagrees bcus ur not allowed to say anything good about xbox on this site. microsoft is the devil and sony and all their devs are all kings

Sure on a console it can be as powerful as a raw PC GPU with optimization and platform specializing, but when someone has more digits their optimization will go about the same distance, but they are starting at a higher number so its not an assumption that it has more juice.

This Nvidia presentation seems like for the most part comparing spec for spec very accurant,However this seems like hardware that is designed for when cloud gaming becomes standard( maybe in about 6-8 years).I do believe that what they say about titan vs ps4 is true(however means nothing because with PS4 you can code to the metal) and xbox 720 if they dont delay there system will be true as well. I think microsoft really took the bait when they thought PS4 would only have 4 gigs of ram and it left them shit face when Sony doubled it because they designed there whole system around that fact with them P.O.S move engines.Now they are completly screwed and trying to figure out the best way forward,hence the reason why you dont here shit from them yet.

Taking what I understand from the rumors the engines allow simultaneous feed like the UI, overlays(think skype), and games to run simultaneously without taking up a signigficant amount of hardware power. Technologically it's an incredibly cool concept, but it reinforces the ideas that MS are going for a more all-inclusive console rather than a pure gaming machine(which isn't necessarily a bad thing).

To put it in simple terms (I am not a tech expert, just well informed).They will attempt to keep bottlenecks from happening with bandwith because unlike PS4 which uses one main computer and a large pull of GDD5 ram,the next xbox using ddr3 which has lower latency but low bandwith so these so called move engines attempt to help with the low bandwith problem which having a game like fallout our grandtheft auto in 1080p might cause.It is an attempt to get the best of both worlds.However to me this looks like microsoft version of the cell chip and developers are going to have to learn how to monitor and stream shit constantly to prevent bottlenecks.In lamest terms it will be a PAIN IN THE ASS,I just hope PS4 does not suffer because of developers concerns with keeping games equal and I also hope this does not keep developers(of multiplatform games) from pushing PS4 to its limit. Also if the rumer is tru about them using 3 out of the 8 gigs of ram for the OS then this is really going to hurt them 2 to 3 years down the road as the next gen games start to mature.

@ thedon8982z-Oh ok, so that sounds to me like Microsoft is forcing developers into adding features that aren't necessary in a gaming environment. It looks like Microsoft is getting somewhat the turn of the arrogant company this time around, no wonder indie devs aren't getting along with them.

Microsoft got a big position in the industry, especially in the developer community, by having the easier to develop platform, now they might screw that up for the sake of the casual market by focusing on multi-media streaming.

I mean, there's nothing wrong with focusing more on that market, but they should of known by now where the console's roots & success originated from, gaming should be their first priority. And I hope as well Microsoft's f^&^d up policies on devs doesn't affect them on PS4 development as the console is looking very promising right now.

Time will tell, we will see the answers by E3. And thank you with the info bro, very appreciated.

wow. nvidia is starting to look salty and desperate now. the whole article really had nothing to do with the next Xbox and the ps4 because they gave nothing but their word to go off of. how can anyone go with that if they have nothing to do with the next Xbox? sorry but that's not gonna happen. they used that intro to promote one of their products, which was rather sad. maybe they should stop overpricing their products and start doing more to advance their hardware like and does.

Guh! All these graphs and charts and supposed concrete factual "leaks" over which console wipes more ass for their dollar are utter bullshit until both systems are RELEASED. Man, these articles are like having a bunch of scientologists hook you up to their little "testing machine" and it pumps out some bullshit graph where they proceed to tell you how scientology can bring the low points of said graph up. Ridiculous horseshit. Has anything been relased? NOPE sure hasnt.