Gotch, I understood it wrong then, so is 5th and 6th going to feel flat then?

They might "feel flat" compared to gears 1 thru 4, but 5th and 6th will feel the same in an SS and a 1LE. The overall ratios are pretty much the same in both cars. The only major difference will be that the ratio from 4th to 5th will be a little more noticeable in the 1LE, than it would be in an SS. If you were to drive both cars on a race track, the difference would be obvious. However, in normal, every-day driving, most people wouldn't notice a difference.

They might "feel flat" compared to gears 1 thru 4, but 5th and 6th will feel the same in an SS and a 1LE. The overall ratios are pretty much the same in both cars. The only major difference will be that the ratio from 4th to 5th will be a little more noticeable in the 1LE, than it would be in an SS. If you were to drive both cars on a race track, the difference would be obvious. However, in normal, every-day driving, most people wouldn't notice a difference.

This pretty much sums it up. The difference between first gear in a SS and 1LE is 100 rpm. So if you are traveling at x mph at 3000 rpm in a SS, then to travel at the same speed in a 1LE the engine will need to be spinning 3100 rpm.

Second gear between the two is exactly the same.

Third gear is about a 150 rpm difference.

Fourth gear is a 500 rpm difference which is the most significant.

60 rpm Difference in 5th and 6th gear for the 1LE compared to a SS (very minor).

If you are correct, the 1/4 times may be slower than an SS. Looks like a shift to fourth will be almost guaranteed and depending on the driver, that will cost time. Of course the improved acceleration may help cover the difference. 3rd and 4th gear is a pretty substantial difference IMO. 3rd and 4th gear in a 1LE should pull a lot harder as you are more likely to stay in the power after a shift than the SS. I really want to see performance numbers now!!!

You bring up an interesting point. If they made 3rd gear a little taller, then you would think it would be better in the 1/4 and save you a shift. There are two possibilities. 1. It's a track car and not a drag car so that ratio works out better. 2. We are missing something. Those max speeds are based on the 6600 rpm redline. The hp peak on those motors is 5900 rpm. So maybe it does end up being faster. Time will tell.

If you decide to run a 285/40-20 on the rear instead of a 285/35-20 that would bring it up to 112. If you run a 315/35-20 (the tire will be less stretched on the rim too) then it will be 111.

You're going to have to be going "fast" to notice the improvement in 4th compared to the stock SS. On the street I doubt you'll notice it at all because you can't legally go at the speeds necessary to see the benefit of the 1LE's gearing from 3-4. 3rd is going to be slightly better coming out of a corner but 4th is really going to be usable; especially on tracks where you don't have enough room to get into 5th.

Although the ratios are similar in many ways to the SS I suspect the 1LE is going to respond much better to adding power. Get another 100 hp and torque to the rear wheels and the ratios in the 1LE are really going to sparkle.

You're going to have to be going "fast" to notice the improvement in 4th compared to the stock SS. On the street I doubt you'll notice it at all because you can't legally go at the speeds necessary to see the benefit of the 1LE's gearing from 3-4. 3rd is going to be slightly better coming out of a corner but 4th is really going to be usable; especially on tracks where you don't have enough room to get into 5th.

Although the ratios are similar in many ways to the SS I suspect the 1LE is going to respond much better to adding power. Get another 100 hp and torque to the rear wheels and the ratios in the 1LE are really going to sparkle.

To be honest I appreciate the time GM took to change the ratios on the 1LE in the transmission instead of just slapping a final drive ratio on there like the mustang. This allows it to preserve fuel economy and driveability on the street while delivering the advantages from lower gearing on the track. I think it's very nicely done.

The mustang, on the other hand, just slaps on a 3.73 final drive on already some really low gearing and that affects all the gears. It essentially makes first gear useless/redundant on the mustang.

1LE appears to be a poor man's ZL1.
My brother has the brand new ZL1 and it's amazing.
I'll stick with my 2SS until they redesign the whole enchilada, as far as body style and engine.
Outside of the ZL1, Chevy is basically using the same car they made in 2010 with very little added of any significance and charging more for it.
I'm in the wait and see mode. I love my 2SS.

I would argue that the 1LE is a lot more than "very little added of any significance". The 1LE comes with an amazing amount of upgrades for only $3,500. There is not another car in the market in any segment in recent history that i know of that is such a good deal.

I too would rather have the gen 6 but i dont have the patience to wait. I will take this 1LE until the real Z28 returns after 2015 brings the gen 6.

I would argue that the 1LE is a lot more than "very little added of any significance". The 1LE comes with an amazing amount of upgrades for only $3,500. There is not another car in the market in any segment in recent history that i know of that is such a good deal.

I too would rather have the gen 6 but i dont have the patience to wait. I will take this 1LE until the real Z28 returns after 2015 brings the gen 6.

They've changed some very vital parts of the car to really get the most impact on performance. Sometimes, "less is more".

I would argue that the 1LE is a lot more than "very little added of any significance". The 1LE comes with an amazing amount of upgrades for only $3,500. There is not another car in the market in any segment in recent history that i know of that is such a good deal.

I think you're taking it too far. The mustang GT with the track pack (less than $2,500) comes with a lot of upgrades as well for less money and the track pack mustang costs 3-5K less.

I am waiting to see if the 1LE can beat the boss. If it can, then the 3-5K premium over the mustang gt with a track pack will be worth the price.

If it can't, then it will still be a great car and Chevy has addressed a lot of things I wasn't fond of on the camaro. The camaro will finally get a track pack to compete with the track pack on the non-boss mustangs.

I think you're taking it too far. The mustang GT with the track pack (less than $2,500) comes with a lot of upgrades as well for less money and the track pack mustang costs 3-5K less.

I am waiting to see if the 1LE can beat the boss. If it can, then the 3-5K premium over the mustang gt with a track pack will be worth the price.

If it can't, then it will still be a great car and Chevy has addressed a lot of things I wasn't fond of on the camaro. The camaro will finally get a track pack to compete with the track pack on the non-boss mustangs.

Seems to have been proven over and over now, handily. I've read a few places that it's faster than the Laguna Seca as well.

I,m new to the forum and noticed a couple members have 1le cars on order. I too have a 2ss 1LE [black] with the dual mode exhaust option on order. TPW of 10-22-12. I have gotten a different answer from everyone I ask when it comes to production numbers... Has anyone on the forum talked with anyone that KNOWS? I appreciate any input on the matter.

I,m new to the forum and noticed a couple members have 1le cars on order. I too have a 2ss 1LE [black] with the dual mode exhaust option on order. TPW of 10-22-12. I have gotten a different answer from everyone I ask when it comes to production numbers... Has anyone on the forum talked with anyone that KNOWS? I appreciate any input on the matter.

GM hasn't set any production numbers as far as them saying "we are only building X amount of 1LE's",actual production numbers will not be known until the end of the 2013 model-year run.

I would argue that the 1LE is a lot more than "very little added of any significance". The 1LE comes with an amazing amount of upgrades for only $3,500. There is not another car in the market in any segment in recent history that i know of that is such a good deal.

I too would rather have the gen 6 but i dont have the patience to wait. I will take this 1LE until the real Z28 returns after 2015 brings the gen 6.