Come on man, you don't want to go bashing people over the head with poorly chosen Bible passages. Especially when it has a lot of passages along the lines Matthew 7:1-6. Which is an injunction not to judge people over their faults.

I feel for you chrisg - I've spoken to FE and know the background so I know exactly what you are talking about, from personal experience.

To give you an idea I was wondering why my 9 year old son's room stunk like a pub toilet. Turns out he was pissing in the corner so he wouldn't wet his pants in the morning. GAH! Its very hard to get 1 month's worth of piss out of a carpet/timber.

So I feel for you man (and FE). Remember to remember what I have to remember all the time - blame the affliction and not the person.

----- ..the bountiful hand of the creator implants, in the mind of man the seeds of virtue, honour, love and the respect for the lives of others which seldom totally perish during a life time, although they may remain long unproductive. Thomas Reid

Wow - you pissed chrisg off. That could only be done by a dickhead of monumental proportions.

----- ..the bountiful hand of the creator implants, in the mind of man the seeds of virtue, honour, love and the respect for the lives of others which seldom totally perish during a life time, although they may remain long unproductive. Thomas Reid

You're going to get a lot of joy out of that peeing in the corner story at your son's wedding :P

----- "It is the war we cannot win, nor can we lose nor drop. There is evidence of an instability of ideas, a floating series of judgements, our policy of nervous conciliation which is very disturbing." - US Senator Hugh Scott