I dont know if this will help but Prodigy tells a story of how Terror Squad got down. Now take it how you want it when you re-read what Nas said about Jay. Also remember Jaz-O fed Nas a lot of his Jay-Z diss material for Stillmatic so maybe Jaz was with Jay when Pun allegedly tried to stick him.

“Kick your little lies I kick my real facts
Like you sneaking out the back of the Source Soundlab”

“This nigga never sold Aspirin, how you Escobar?
Had to buy your chain back last time you got robbed”

“Me and the boy AI got more in common than just balling and rhyming
Get it? More in Carmen
I came in your Bentley backseat, skeeted in your Jeep
Left condoms on your baby seat”

“And since you infatuated with saying that gay shit
Yes you was kissing my dick when you was kissing that bitch”

While most of supa ugly was average at best in my opinion those four parts of the song won the beef. Jay-Z’s using real occurences to diss nas and make him look bad. The first to make him look soft, the second two… Jay-Z fucked his bitch. Look Nas is one of my all time favorite rappers but he took a serious L on this one. That shits just brutal.

Jay-Z was always “eh” to me. Most overrated of all time. Most people fell for the propaganda wheel of Jay being one of the nicest. As a NY native Ive heard of Jay-Z loooong before that hard knock life shit. He practically did an album with Big Daddy Kane. Nobody thought he was special back then. See, but when Nas rhymed people knew he was a prodigy. Nas didn’t haveta tote how nice he was, people knew. Jay-Z constantely tote how nice he is, how he was in the top 3 and people bought it. The Takeover was a pretty weak diss track anyway. Nas held back on Ether and still murked him.

@Cequence—Meanwhile in Africa the Chinese government got millions of dollars to help build a infrastructure. South Africa is becoming one of the strongest economies of the world. Liberia has a female president. Over 50,000 Afro-Americans made a transplant to Africa.

I’m bumping this because this was posted on the RG FB page and I dont think I’ve seen this thread before…

People like to say that he was “making stuff up” in Ether and Takeover was based on facts. I don’t necessarily believe that, but if he had released this instead, people wouldn’t have had that gripe with it.

I will say that this is more in the mold of Takeover. This is a pretty good diss, but it wouldn’t have revived Nas' career like Ether (the one that was released) did. Ether was just so mean and vicious…it was pure destruction. So I think it all worked out for Nas in the end.