CNNI's Kate Bolduan clapped her hands and interrupted Trump surrogate Carl Higbie from hijacking the segment based on nothing but distrust of the media. saying "Please! don't start with me. You're going to attack sources. That is ridiculous!"

After the news broke that Trump had leaked highly sensitive and classified materials to the Russians, Higbie was on CNNI defending Trump.

Kirsten Powers said that Trump's actions of leaking those secrets put people's lives in danger and when host Kate Bolduan said could it be that Trump didn't know any better. she replied, "So their best case scenario is incompetence, that's what that would mean."

Bolduan then brought in Higbie, a former Navy SEAL and Trump apologist to ask him if this was troubling for a person who has dealt with classified info before.

Instead of being objective, he trashed the whole segment.

"I've been sitting here quietly listening to all this B.S. frankly and did you listen to anything McMaster said?," Carl growled.

Higbie then went down the rabbit hole of "the story is not true unless anonymous sources reveal themselves."

Carl said, "You're basing all these allegations off one or maybe two sources, CNN reports that two former officials confirmed the main points of the story. Two former officials? Tell you what, come out and name those people, then we'll have something to talk about."