Study: Whooping cough outbreak linked to vaccinated children

San Rafael - An investigation by California doctors has revealed that the state's latest outbreak of whooping cough centered around children who had already received the whooping cough vaccine, Reuters reports.

The study, led by infectious disease specialist Dr. David Witt, was initiated after an unusually large number of whooping cough cases were admitted to Kaiser Permanente Hospital in San Rafael, California in 2010. After examining the records of juvenile whooping cough patients over an 8-month period, the doctors discovered that 81 percent of patients had received the full series of whooping cough shots, and 11 percent had received only some of the shots. The remaining 8 percent had not received any immunizations for whooping cough. "What was very surprising was the majority of cases were in fully vaccinated children," Witt said. "That's what started catching our attention." After further analysis, Witt and his team surmised that the effectiveness of the vaccine wears off after several years, creating the need for additional inoculations."

What are your thoughts on this? There's more to the article, but I felt like this was the only unbiased part.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/323187

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San Rafael - An investigation by California doctors has revealed that the state's latest outbreak of whooping cough centered around children who had already received the whooping cough vaccine, Reuters reports.

The study, led by infectious disease specialist Dr. David Witt, was initiated after an unusually large number of whooping cough cases were admitted to Kaiser Permanente Hospital in San Rafael, California in 2010. After examining the records of juvenile whooping cough patients over an 8-month period, the doctors discovered that 81 percent of patients had received the full series of whooping cough shots, and 11 percent had received only some of the shots. The remaining 8 percent had not received any immunizations for whooping cough. "What was very surprising was the majority of cases were in fully vaccinated children," Witt said. "That's what started catching our attention." After further analysis, Witt and his team surmised that the effectiveness of the vaccine wears off after several years, creating the need for additional inoculations."

What are your thoughts on this? There's more to the article, but I felt like this was the only unbiased part.

As for the article, I thought this was the most important part: "After further analysis, Witt and his team surmised that the effectiveness of the vaccine wears off after several years, creating the need for additional inoculations."

So, it's not that that vaccinated kids are getting sick, but that they're getting sick once their vaccination wears off, just as a person can get tetanus if they haven't had their booster recently.

As for the article, I thought this was the most important part: "After further analysis, Witt and his team surmised that the effectiveness of the vaccine wears off after several years, creating the need for additional inoculations."

So, it's not that that vaccinated kids are getting sick, but that they're getting sick once their vaccination wears off, just as a person can get tetanus if they haven't had their booster recently.

That 8% means nothing unless you know what percentage of kids in the state are not vaccinated. If you said 20% of kids in Ca are not vaccinated, 20% are not fully vaccinated, and 60% are fully vaccinated then the percentages in the article would mean more. The article does support my theory that many who vaccinate get a false sense of security that they can't get sick because they have been fully vaccinated according to the CDC schedule. Vaccines don't work for some and how long they work for others is unknown and a lot of people don't know this. I should e-mail this article to my mil though, she argued with me that once you finish your whopping cough vaccine series you are immune to it for life.

That 8% means nothing unless you know what percentage of kids in the state are not vaccinated. If you said 20% of kids in Ca are not vaccinated, 20% are not fully vaccinated, and 60% are fully vaccinated then the percentages in the article would mean more. The article does support my theory that many who vaccinate get a false sense of security that they can't get sick because they have been fully vaccinated according to the CDC schedule. Vaccines don't work for some and how long they work for others is unknown and a lot of people don't know this. I should e-mail this article to my mil though, she argued with me that once you finish your whopping cough vaccine series you are immune to it for life.

Actually, the article stated that the incidents of whooping cough in previously vaccinated children was a result of their vaccine wearing off, essentially making them unvaccinated, so the rise in pertussis is due to a rise of unintentionally unvaccinated children.

Actually, the article stated that the incidents of whooping cough in previously vaccinated children was a result of their vaccine wearing off, essentially making them unvaccinated, so the rise in pertussis is due to a rise of unintentionally unvaccinated children.

Pertussis is on the rise in the UK as well as in the US. Children here get the vaccine as babies and a booster as they start school, but there are no more boosters after that I don't think (there *may* be one at age 15 or so but I'm not 100% sure). Anyway many adults are coming down with the disease and of course they can transmit it to other adults and children who are unvaccinated or whose immunity has worn off. They are considering adding further booster doses to the standard NHS programme. Now, if the NHS is going to pay for it then it must be important - for example only priority groups get the flu jab on the NHS - which tells me that booster doses of the pertussis vaccine are the best way to tackle this issue. But I guess I'm biased as I'm VERY pro-vaccination anyway.

Pertussis is on the rise in the UK as well as in the US. Children here get the vaccine as babies and a booster as they start school, but there are no more boosters after that I don't think (there *may* be one at age 15 or so but I'm not 100% sure). Anyway many adults are coming down with the disease and of course they can transmit it to other adults and children who are unvaccinated or whose immunity has worn off. They are considering adding further booster doses to the standard NHS programme. Now, if the NHS is going to pay for it then it must be important - for example only priority groups get the flu jab on the NHS - which tells me that booster doses of the pertussis vaccine are the best way to tackle this issue. But I guess I'm biased as I'm VERY pro-vaccination anyway.

And on the rise in Australia with a reduction in vaccinations. It is only after a few years of outbreaks and deaths that adults are being encouraged to get a booster.....and that is generally only promoted to new parents and grandparents. My question to those who are anti....have you ever witnessed a 4 week old family member with whooping cough? I never had a strong opinion until then!

And on the rise in Australia with a reduction in vaccinations. It is only after a few years of outbreaks and deaths that adults are being encouraged to get a booster.....and that is generally only promoted to new parents and grandparents. My question to those who are anti....have you ever witnessed a 4 week old family member with whooping cough? I never had a strong opinion until then!

Actually, here in NJ there was an article in a major newspaper which was discussing an outbreak in one of our counties among vaccinated children and the health department is considering the possibility that pediatrician's offices are not refrigerating vaccinations to the correct temperature rending them ineffective. The health department found temperature control is not always exact wherein vaccinations were either stored at a temperature too low (freezing the vaccination) or too warm. Often, independent thermometers were not calibrated properly and not checked by staff using a control and/or the staff would merely rely on the fridge's digital temp reading as gospel not looking at the independent temperature gauge.

Actually, here in NJ there was an article in a major newspaper which was discussing an outbreak in one of our counties among vaccinated children and the health department is considering the possibility that pediatrician's offices are not refrigerating vaccinations to the correct temperature rending them ineffective. The health department found temperature control is not always exact wherein vaccinations were either stored at a temperature too low (freezing the vaccination) or too warm. Often, independent thermometers were not calibrated properly and not checked by staff using a control and/or the staff would merely rely on the fridge's digital temp reading as gospel not looking at the independent temperature gauge.

This actually happens a lot or them giving expired vaccines. My mother (vaccinated us only because she had to) practically brags about how my last booster for Hep was expired. They told her to bring me in to get it again and she refused.

This actually happens a lot or them giving expired vaccines. My mother (vaccinated us only because she had to) practically brags about how my last booster for Hep was expired. They told her to bring me in to get it again and she refused.

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