I'm a spoiled American; I need pure, red, four-legged meat served right in front of me with A1 sauce. Not a little bit of meat or fish/lamb buried under or mixed with like twenty Orthodox vegetables from the old country, but plain meat.

I'm a spoiled American; I need pure, red, four-legged meat served right in front of me with A1 sauce. Not a little bit of meat or fish/lamb buried under or mixed with like twenty Orthodox vegetables from the old country, but plain meat.

If you don't like Chicken Kiev then... then... . . you are beyond all hope!

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I'm a spoiled American; I need pure, red, four-legged meat served right in front of me with A1 sauce. Not a little bit of meat or fish/lamb buried under or mixed with like twenty Orthodox vegetables from the old country, but plain meat.

If you don't like Chicken Kiev then... then... . . you are beyond all hope!

What is Chicken Kiev? Is it something like "chicken of the sea?" Which is really tuna.

Edited to add: Hey, I have heard that rattlesnake meat tastes a lot like chicken. However, rattlesnake meat is real meat as it comes from a vertebrate.

Aww five weeks? That's so long... I want it to come sooner. I can't wait for Pascha; this is going to be the year where I try to drag my family with me to Church and maybe the beauty of Pascha will convert them.

Hahaha. You'd think that, Maria, until you remember that the RCC doesn't really fast. But I have noticed a huge increase in the number of commercials for fast food fish sandwiches lately...ahhh, the joys of living in New Mexico. Enjoy your filet-o-fish sandwiches, Wyatt!

I'm a spoiled American; I need pure, red, four-legged meat served right in front of me with A1 sauce. Not a little bit of meat or fish/lamb buried under or mixed with like twenty Orthodox vegetables from the old country, but plain meat.

If you don't like Chicken Kiev then... then... . . you are beyond all hope!

What is Chicken Kiev? Is it something like "chicken of the sea?" Which is really tuna.

Edited to add: Hey, I have heard that rattlesnake meat tastes a lot like chicken. However, rattlesnake meat is real meat as it comes from a vertebrate.

I'm a spoiled American; I need pure, red, four-legged meat served right in front of me with A1 sauce. Not a little bit of meat or fish/lamb buried under or mixed with like twenty Orthodox vegetables from the old country, but plain meat.

If you don't like Chicken Kiev then... then... . . you are beyond all hope!

What is Chicken Kiev? Is it something like "chicken of the sea?" Which is really tuna.

Edited to add: Hey, I have heard that rattlesnake meat tastes a lot like chicken. However, rattlesnake meat is real meat as it comes from a vertebrate.

I'm a spoiled American; I need pure, red, four-legged meat served right in front of me with A1 sauce. Not a little bit of meat or fish/lamb buried under or mixed with like twenty Orthodox vegetables from the old country, but plain meat.

ummm... A1 sauce is for meat that was not cooked so well. But I agree on the minimal meat with veggies and all that on a non-fast day. If I want fish I want grouper and veggies to the side if I have room. Virtually everything is good with noodles though.

I'm a spoiled American; I need pure, red, four-legged meat served right in front of me with A1 sauce. Not a little bit of meat or fish/lamb buried under or mixed with like twenty Orthodox vegetables from the old country, but plain meat.

If you don't like Chicken Kiev then... then... . . you are beyond all hope!

What is Chicken Kiev? Is it something like "chicken of the sea?" Which is really tuna.

Edited to add: Hey, I have heard that rattlesnake meat tastes a lot like chicken. However, rattlesnake meat is real meat as it comes from a vertebrate.

I'm a spoiled American; I need pure, red, four-legged meat served right in front of me with A1 sauce. Not a little bit of meat or fish/lamb buried under or mixed with like twenty Orthodox vegetables from the old country, but plain meat.

You've obviously never been to a Russian (especially Harbintsy Russian) or Greek barbecue. I also hear the Georgians know a thing or two about carnivorous cooking.

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Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.

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I'm a spoiled American; I need pure, red, four-legged meat served right in front of me with A1 sauce. Not a little bit of meat or fish/lamb buried under or mixed with like twenty Orthodox vegetables from the old country, but plain meat.

ummm... A1 sauce is for meat that was not cooked so well. But I agree on the minimal meat with veggies and all that on a non-fast day. If I want fish I want grouper and veggies to the side if I have room. Virtually everything is good with noodles though.

Grouper? Do you live in Florida or something?

Anyhow, I've never been I big fan of A1, but Chello's steak sauce is great (if they still make it -- it has been a long time since I had it).

Hahaha. You'd think that, Maria, until you remember that the RCC doesn't really fast. But I have noticed a huge increase in the number of commercials for fast food fish sandwiches lately...ahhh, the joys of living in New Mexico. Enjoy your filet-o-fish sandwiches, Wyatt!

What I miss in the Philippines. Almost everywhere the restaurants and fast food places come out with their Lenten menu. Of course being RC, it usually means fish meals. But Orthodox can eat squid, right? I miss grilled squid.

Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.

Indeed. Salo is vegetarian. No meat in there.

How is Salo vegetarian? It is cured pig fat Mike! I have about 20kg of it that has been curing for four months almost.

Fat, not meat. No single protein in there.

At least how I'm trying to explain to myself JamesR's argumentation. Otherwise it has no sense.

my salo has some red meat in it. Ok but to picky Americans who can afford to pass up food if it is from an animal period then it isn't vegetarian.

Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.

Indeed. Salo is vegetarian. No meat in there.

How is Salo vegetarian? It is cured pig fat Mike! I have about 20kg of it that has been curing for four months almost.

Fat, not meat. No single protein in there.

At least how I'm trying to explain to myself JamesR's argumentation. Otherwise it has no sense.

It's flesh from an animal, not vegetarian. Like pork rinds.

Fat isn't a flesh. I take mike's side it isn't meat it's salo, it's own unique thing. It's not pork rinds either. It's cured back fat or belly fat. Or smoked cured ribs. I currently used really thick fat from a homegrown pig. most pigs in the USA don't grow large enough to have thick back fat. But this pig did. We are talking 4-5 inches thick in some spots.

Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.

Indeed. Salo is vegetarian. No meat in there.

How is Salo vegetarian? It is cured pig fat Mike! I have about 20kg of it that has been curing for four months almost.

Fat, not meat. No single protein in there.

At least how I'm trying to explain to myself JamesR's argumentation. Otherwise it has no sense.

It's flesh from an animal, not vegetarian. Like pork rinds.

Fat isn't a flesh. I take mike's side it isn't meat it's salo, it's own unique thing. It's not pork rinds either. It's cured back fat or belly fat. Or smoked cured ribs. I currently used really thick fat from a homegrown pig. most pigs in the USA don't grow large enough to have thick back fat. But this pig did. We are talking 4-5 inches thick in some spots.

Hmm... strange. The local Latin priest here gave a rousing Ash Wednesday homily on Eastern fasting rules, and why Latins should adopt them. Being Ruthenian Catholic, I just smiled when everybody immediate smiled bright when he read the gospel passage about "And when you fast, do not look dismal, like the hypocrites, for they disfigure their faces that their fasting may be seen by men." I knew the Italian Catholics' faces would be dismal when he mentioned the ban on dairy products- including cheese.

Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.

Indeed. Salo is vegetarian. No meat in there.

How is Salo vegetarian? It is cured pig fat Mike! I have about 20kg of it that has been curing for four months almost.

Fat, not meat. No single protein in there.

At least how I'm trying to explain to myself JamesR's argumentation. Otherwise it has no sense.

It's flesh from an animal, not vegetarian. Like pork rinds.

Fat isn't a flesh. I take mike's side it isn't meat it's salo, it's own unique thing. It's not pork rinds either. It's cured back fat or belly fat. Or smoked cured ribs. I currently used really thick fat from a homegrown pig. most pigs in the USA don't grow large enough to have thick back fat. But this pig did. We are talking 4-5 inches thick in some spots.

...in any event, it isn't vegetarian.

Ah, the difference between vegetarian and vegan. Vegetarians will eat animal byproducts, like milk/dairy and eggs. Vegans won't eat anything that came from whatever animal. Our fasting requires a mostly vegan diet with very few exceptions.

Hmm... strange. The local Latin priest here gave a rousing Ash Wednesday homily on Eastern fasting rules, and why Latins should adopt them. Being Ruthenian Catholic, I just smiled when everybody immediate smiled bright when he read the gospel passage about "And when you fast, do not look dismal, like the hypocrites, for they disfigure their faces that their fasting may be seen by men." I knew the Italian Catholics' faces would be dismal when he mentioned the ban on dairy products- including cheese.

Yes, I did realize at some point that fasting once a week in a 6-week period over a year isn't much. But I guess for some people it is. I think this is one of those cases where legalism just does not make any sense and that fasting should have never been legislated to such extent.

Hmm... strange. The local Latin priest here gave a rousing Ash Wednesday homily on Eastern fasting rules, and why Latins should adopt them. Being Ruthenian Catholic, I just smiled when everybody immediate smiled bright when he read the gospel passage about "And when you fast, do not look dismal, like the hypocrites, for they disfigure their faces that their fasting may be seen by men." I knew the Italian Catholics' faces would be dismal when he mentioned the ban on dairy products- including cheese.

Yes, I did realize at some point that fasting once a week in a 6-week period over a year isn't much. But I guess for some people it is. I think this is one of those cases where legalism just does not make any sense and that fasting should have never been legislated to such extent.

It is in a town full of Sicilian Catholics who's main Lenten fare consists of spaghetti and fishballs.

The RCC was attractive to me a few years ago because I wanted I deeper connection to early Christians, but on my quest to dig deeper and find out more about the Roman Catholic Church and its historic ties I discovered Orthodoxy along the way and if or when I do commit to Christ its looking like the Orthodox church is the way to do it.

It seems like everyone who is Sicilian or partly is the worst. At least the female variety.

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It's attractive for me on two fronts.....and convenience; it's large, powerful and influential.

Power comes and goes.

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