CB4 is the without a doubt the best power forward in the league right now, so heres my question, if he's the best power forward right now then no other pf in the league right now is a franchise. And I'm talking about right now from this moment on, so i don't want to hear duncan used to be and stuff like that. Try and answer without a raps bias like saying its cause hes in toronto they don't think he's good enough to be a franshise. Also remeber hes just hitting his prime...

I just wanna see what you guys think about that, so what other pf in the league right now is a franchise if Bosh isnt?

No im saying people say Bosh isnt and i dont understand there reasoning behind that if Bosh is the best pf right now

well position has nothing to do with it. Technically speaking all franchise players could be guards.
But I'm guessing if they think he's not franchise worthy then they probably don't think he's the best power forward either.

For me the term franchise is in a way vague.
It means the leader of a team, with the biggest pay checque and who puts up the best numbers and hopefully the biggest plays.

If that is franchise player, then Bosh is a franchise player no doubt.

But I think some people look beyond that, and perhaps only call some players franchise if they actually deliver on their promise by leading their team to at least the Finals or a Championship.

What I mean is, that franchise players can flop. Injuries have a lot to do with that too but also some players just can't deliver or carry their team to the greatness that was expected of them. In that sense, signing any franchise player to a big contract is always a huge gamble, and the franchise status of all franchise players can be weighed and questioned on that basis.

Bosh will get maxed, but the real question is, can he lead (t)his team to greatness.

How many titles do you think TD would have "led" his team to without Parker and Manu? And Robinson?

I am not sure if you missunderstood what I was saying ir if I missunderstand you. But is was saying KG was a franchise player before he was in Boston.
I said "did not just become a franchise player when " meaning he was franchise player before the move to Boston.

well position has nothing to do with it. Technically speaking all franchise players could be guards.
But I'm guessing if they think he's not franchise worthy then they probably don't think he's the best power forward either.

For me the term franchise is in a way vague.
It means the leader of a team, with the biggest pay checque and who puts up the best numbers and hopefully the biggest plays.

If that is franchise player, then Bosh is a franchise player no doubt.

But I think some people look beyond that, and perhaps only call some players franchise if they actually deliver on their promise by leading their team to at least the Finals or a Championship.

What I mean is, that franchise players can flop. Injuries have a lot to do with that too but also some players just can't deliver or carry their team to the greatness that was expected of them. In that sense, signing any franchise player to a big contract is always a huge gamble, and the franchise status of all franchise players can be weighed and questioned on that basis.

Bosh will get maxed, but the real question is, can he lead (t)his team to greatness.

Well i meant a pf franchise but i get what your sayin still
But i guess that means that there is no pf in the league that can be a franchise then, if not bosh