Academically speaking, where has Obama pressed for Socialist (truly Socialist) measures? What policies has he advocated that would end the wars of aggression in the Middle-East? Do we have national health insurance policy? Is there a public ownership of banks? Do workers run manufacturing industries and other enterprises in this country? Has Obama pushed for those things?

The Few assume to be the deputies, but they are often only the despoilers of the Many. Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

They think that everything that they don't agree with is pure islamistic or terrorism If a latino was elected president I bet most of these people haters would think he or she is a crackhead that loves drugs or Colombian gerilla fighters

You got to be kidding. Everything this man says and does is socialist. As he told Joe the plumber, he believes in the redistribution of wealth. As he stated in his book, the constitution doesn't go far enough to reach social justice. This country was founded on equal justice.Take a look at all his appointees, there isn't a normal, capitalist loving, one in the bunch.

Aquarian wrote:What policies has he advocated that would end the wars of aggression in the Middle-East?

His current policy is to turn his back on Israel. It is obvious that it is his opinion that Israel is the roadblock to peace. His current policy is to bend over backwards for the Muslim countries. He also has cut the defense budget. Obviously he believes we're the problem which is also why he apologizes for the US everywhere he goes.

Aquarian wrote:Do we have national health insurance policy?

Yes, the groundwork has been layed.

Aquarian wrote:Is there a public ownership of banks?

TARP

Aquarian wrote: Do workers run manufacturing industries and other enterprises in this country?

Yes, unions, and the unions are in his hip pocket. I believe he also signed a bill making it easier to unionize.

he even said it himself he would eventually like the government to take over all health care.

Everything this guy has done , has been to lay the ground work for the transformation of America, and not in the good sense. In the progressive agenda bad kinda sense. Must crash the system to create the new one. So far so good.

everything is created chaos to frighten the masses to transform to the new order. He will save us from all that is bad in the country.

open you're eyes Aquarian..... It's pretty out in the open at this point.

The ignorance of the understanding of socialism is extremely pervasive.

As he told Joe the plumber, he believes in the redistribution of wealth. As he stated in his book, the constitution doesn't go far enough to reach social justice. This country was founded on equal justice.Take a look at all his appointees, there isn't a normal, capitalist loving, one in the bunch.

He has done absolutely NOTHING that would be deemed socialist to any person who is intelligent enough to grasp even the most minute hue of socialist policy. He has advocated for the privatization of education, approved of bank bailouts which have only enriched the coffers of the financial elite who have used that money to buy smaller banks, he has advocated cost-cutting measures in his health plan with an emphasis on "temporary risk pools" doing nothing about taming the costs of health care, only insuring about 16,000,000 more Americans with bare-bones packages, advocated for drastic cutbacks in order to preserve "long-term economic stability" and continues to relish in the financial support of oil executives (permit-less drilling, etc.)

His current policy is to turn his back on Israel. It is obvious that it is his opinion that Israel is the roadblock to peace. His current policy is to bend over backwards for the Muslim countries. He also has cut the defense budget. Obviously he believes we're the problem which is also why he apologizes for the US everywhere he goes.

Simultaneously, he has ramped up the number of troops in Afghanistan, placing himself responsible for the burgeoning number of civilian deaths that are being reported at an all-time high.

He is also conducting massive proxy-wars in Pakistan with those ruinous drone attacks which have claimed the lives of hundreds of civilians.

And to truly gain a comprehensive understanding of the Obama position on Israel, it is best you research from the actual perspective of true socialists:http://wsws.org/search/index.php

Yes, the groundwork has been layed.

The only thing the health bill did was encourage the federal government to rubber-stamp and consolidate the power of private HMOs. He has undoubtedly crafted a measure that would duly enable private insurance companies to rake in enormous revenues in forcing individuals to buy bare-bones packages and coverage. Billions are also being cut from Medicare, a program for the elderly and disabled. There is no government take-over as the rambunctious Tea Party reactionaries would have people believe.

TARP

Right and you would think that if TARP was so effective in ensuring its alleged "public utility" that it would not have provided funds to bank holding companies. Those holding companies have only used a fraction of such funds to recapitalize their bank subsidiaries. Because TARP does not go far enough:http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/18/opini ... .html?_r=1

Would the following also occur under the democratic control of the working-class citizenry?

During 2008, companies that received $295 billion in bailout money had spent $114 million on lobbying and campaign contributions

Banks that received bailout money had compensated their top executives nearly $1.6 billion in 2007, including salaries, cash bonuses, stock options, and benefits including personal use of company jets and chauffeurs, home security, country club memberships, and professional money management. The Obama administration has promised to set a $500,000 cap on executive pay at companies that receive bailout money, directing banks to tie risk taken to workers' reward by paying anything further in deferred stock. Graef Crystal, a former compensation consultant and author of "The Crystal Report on Executive Compensation," claimed that the limits on executive pay were "a joke" and that "they’re just allowing companies to defer compensation.

Yes, unions, and the unions are in his hip pocket. I believe he also signed a bill making it easier to unionize.

If unions "ran businesses" then concessions, capitulations and other surrender policies wouldn't have been so embraced by those in GM, for example.

The Few assume to be the deputies, but they are often only the despoilers of the Many. Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

Oh noes!!! God forbid Israel build a system that intercepts incoming rockets! What an evil plan! Obama's support for or opposition to Israel has nothing to do with his total arrogance (thread subject) or his Socialist agenda (current sidebar subject)

Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man. - Albert Einstein

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