I find it interesting that VW just gobbles up other manufactures and Toyota collaborates with them. I hope BMW negotiates a better contract than Subaru. I would hate to see what the premium would be on the BMW version if only 1 in 10 are BMWs.

i dont like that BMW is doing this. Dilutes the brand. It was ok for Subaru

Don't be such a fanboy, I find myself doing the same sometimes until i slap myself back to reality. This is beneficial to both companies as the time/monies/resources have already been spent in their respective areas. Mercedes and Nissan/Renault are working on projects together as well, I suppose you feel that dilutes the Daimler brand as well.

Not knocking your opinion at all, you're entitled to it. Just giving you my .02 to have you take a look at it from a different perspective.

My knee jerk reaction is that it is pretty brutal that BMW needs Toyota help to build a sports car but once I get over that initial reaction I remember how the Cayenne and Panamera pay the bills at Porsche to enable niche cars like the GT3 RS

If more FWD hybrids is what BMW needs to do to bring a lightweight V8 Z4M to the market, that's ok with me...

My knee jerk reaction is that it is pretty brutal that BMW needs Toyota help to build a sports car but once I get over that initial reaction I remember how the Cayenne and Panamera pay the bills at Porsche to enable niche cars like the GT3 RS

If more FWD hybrids is what BMW needs to do to bring a lightweight V8 Z4M to the market, that's ok with me...

Yes they have to do that. BMW also said they would first bring M SUVs before bringing an M CSL. Actually now they could, they have the X5 M, X6 M and the X4 M is coming. Not certain we'll see an M2 CSL.