Cain pulled after getting hit by line drive (UPDATED)

UPDATE: Cain is fine. X-rays were negative; he has a right forearm contusion.

Matt Cain was pulled in the fourth inning of Thursday night’s game with the Pittsburgh Pirates after getting drilled by a line drive in the fourth inning.

Cain appeared to be hit on his right forearm by a screaming line drive off the bat of Gaby Sanchez. He crouched down right away and manager Bruce Bochy and trainer Dave Groeschner ran out to the mound. After a short discussion, Cain walked back to the home dugout and then went back to the clubhouse. Groeschner and Bochy followed.

Cain had been struggling before getting hit. He gave up three straight singles to open the night and the Pirates went up 3-0 on a pair of homers in the second. Guillermo Moscoso replaced Cain.

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Be well Cain. Hope you’re okay.
This team needs you. But this year? Not so much.

So take time to heal up… As much time as you need.
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It might not be a 6-man rotation, but we may very well get to see a couple of our young arms start. I am not trying to jump to any conclusions, I don’t know that Cain is hurt beyond something like a stinger/bruise to his forearm.

Es-co-bar!Es-co-bar!Es-co-bar!Es-co-bar!

pacman68

Another brain dead Bochy move. Too many to count this season.

pacman68

Hilarious!! I love it.

Silvio

Kind of idiotic for pond scum polio to rag on an injury.

Polio is probably SAM of all people.

bocball

Vogie Takes on in the hand Scutaro on on the pinkie…weird

Silvio

Which was the Bdead move? The one that produced the two runs because Moscoso bunted?

Cla$$ic NL move. Ask Hurdle.

Polioptila Californica

Brandi B restores order!

carmot

I like! I like!

See, effort! Sandoval scores, moves the bat away from the plate, signals Blanco to slide! See, it isn’t that hard to play the game the right way. I like.

Umps take away a legitimate chance to get to four-in-four. Dang.

Thanks Selig. For all you’ve done. And our scheduling is fantastic too.

Polioptila Californica

The only down side is that Gnatt Cain cannot get a well-deserved L.

Polioptila Californica

Mocoso gets it started!

bocball

Sorry about my spelling. Too much booze.

Polioptila Californica

Mocoso on a roll!

The Oracle

I wonder how many times this season Bochy has made a dubious decision to let a pitcher hit and then pulled him the next inning? The answer is A LOT.

Clydesdale Horse Conglomerate

Matt Cain’s lifetime record is 93-86 record.

Matt Cain’s salary in 2013 is $20 million.

Matt Cain’s prior postseason success means nothing if his team does not make the playoffs.

Matt Cain is no longer the ace of the staff.

Matt Cain will never be elected to the Hall of Fame.

408svl

yup! it’s that kind of year that i haven’t seen with any GIANTS team in my lifetime as a GIANTS fan. watch out because there is probaly more to come. it is really weird to what is going on this year. do you believe in ALLADIN or I DREAM OF JEANNIE?

ClutchUp

HUMAN RAIN DELAY

Dee Dee Melons

I know I’ve only been a Giants fan since last year but I’ve never seen them play so poorly. 🙁

Forever a Giants Fan!

carmot

Somehow, for some reason THIS is one of THE HARDEST innings for me to handle all season long. Maybe it’s Cain getting drilled in the forearm and having to see Moscoso. The flase sense of hope from some roster moves, and back to same ol’ same ol’ for our long man. Inherited runners and our 2nd worst arm in that category (Mijares) is the one warming up.

Can’t really put my finger on it, but this is one of the roughest spots for me in this Giants terrible season…

The Oracle

I’m not all that old, but I am too old to watch Moscoso pitch. Mijares is a brilliant choice here. Right handers hitting .340 against him.

carmot

Yup.

SFGfan

Just figures that would happen.

408svl

i keep telling my friends it is never a good VIBE to have an ex- A’s player to be a GIANTS. MOSCOSO, you now have that distinction.

Bill Virdon

6-3 Pirates!

SFGfan

One more fly ball and Mijares will be perfect. 3 inherited, 3 in.

Jamie Moyer

Can’t Mike Kickham pitch 2 days in a row?

The Oracle

I agree with Carmot. The Giants show some life and tie it up, only to have two guys who shouldn’t even be on the roster immediately put them right back in the hole. And this after Bochy all but forfeits the chance at a big inning by letting Moscoso hit. Very discouraging.

kyle Perizi

Neck tattoos are so cool .

carmot

Well…

I liked the way Pill ran into 2B to break up the double play. There’s that. He stayed up, and dropped down to a slide late. Was it Walker? Seemingly didn’t know how to throw around Pill… Like… “Is he going to slide and clear a throwing lane for me?” or “Do I need to jump to clear out of his way as he slides?” It helps that Blanco ran it out hard. But I liked how Pill did those little things in his base running there.

I’m reaching for little “positives” now. But I am happy to see much better effort… Belt calling decisively for a pop up, Arias doing the same. Arias covering 2B behind McCutch when he was on 2B earlier… Much, much better effort IMO. That’s not nothing.

Pitching changes? That’s on Bochy. Yeah.

Clydesdale Horse Conglomerate

Yup that’s right Ima Douche Yup

GSDubs

Ahh…the dog days

Bill Virdon

7-3 Pirates!

SFGfan

Ugh…endless inning.

Silvio

Oracle, Moscoso bunted Sandoval to 3rd and Blanco to 2nd and then Scutaro drove them both in with two out.

believe me, they are playing scared. some players know some are playing on borrowed time. no more inni minnie miny moe with BRIAN SABEAN and BRUCE ” BIG HEAD ” BOCHY.

Bill Virdon

10-3 Pirates!

Bazooka Joe

Giants Blow!

SFGfan

….and Mijares adds in bonus runs of his own. Disgusting.

pacman68

Goodnite everyone … I’m done vomiting…I’m going to bed.

The Oracle

Silvio, I was watching the game, but thanks for the recap. I’d rather Bochy have gone for the big inning, especially since scoring opportunities have been so rare lately. I’d have preferred that he’d have gone for it rather than protect a pitcher who shouldn’t even be in the Big Leagues and was very unlikely to continue to hold down the Pirates. You’re apparently watching the game too, so I guess you saw what happened.

and it is getting worse. if not worsier. now worsiest. and they are getting embarrased. CAPUT!!!

Silvio

Oracle
I agree that Moscoso stinks as a pitcher, just thought the bunt allowed Scoots to produce.

Yep, you’re correct, big inning try would have been better.

Foothills Ryan

Kind of a win-win night if you’re pulling for the Pirates in the Central. They inch closer and the Golden State Giants work their way up the draft board.

DJANGO UNCHAINED

BRIAN SABEAN HAS BUILT A MASTERPIECE !!

The Oracle

If anyone ever doubts that any of you are true fans, tell them that you were still watching in the 6th inning of this game. That should end the argument.

carmot

I feel sick.
Like I said during the commercial break while it was still tied 3-3… This was one of the hardest innings for me to watch ALL YEAR. I feel sick. After all that false sense of hope that we would be TRULY evaluating talent for 2014 and seeing the kids… Back to Moscoso.

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Oracle:
I don’t think Sabean speaks Spanish.
He only speaks Old English.

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Mijares was 12/38 in inherited runners scored prior to this game. 3-for-3 tonight puts him at 15-of-41. A new leader in the clubhouse! Mijares at 36.6% IRS is even higher than Kontos at 36.4%. I think we now have two of the top bullpen arms in inherited runners scored in all of the NL.

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I am chainsaw angry. That 5th inning DID NOT need to happen.

Did I mention that I feel sick? Yeah. Maybe I did. I cannot remember, because I feel sick.

hitman

Hey. Is the game over? Heh,heh,heh!!!

The Oracle

Lefty…get Mijares out of here. Make another call!

ClutchUp

Matthew good call…

Also Dave Hendu Henderson

SFGfan

We’re going to get the other half of the M&M twins….

408svl

in baseball there is a saying that is never boring to hear, ” we’ll get ’em tomorrow “. yup! or ” next year “. heh,heh,heh.

hitman

@62: Heh,heh,heh!

Foothills Ryan

At least the Giants AA beat the Pirates AA today.

Joe Panik 2/5
Javier Herrera 3/3 with 2 BBs
Adam Duvall 3/4 w/ 1 BB

Jake Snod-hierba with 8ks and 1 BB in 6.1 IP – 6 hits and 3 ER.

Pirate team with a couple top 100 prospects in SS Hanson and CF Polanco.

Foothills, the way it’s going, Pagan will come back, lead a surge and sink the pick down to the teens. With that pick the Giants will take a relatively unknown, portly left hander from Venezuela named Mijares Moscoso Machi. He’ll be nicknamed ‘the koala’ … Many hats will be sold.

Oracle: Someone will be gone by tomorrow. Maybe Moscoso DFA and Mijares DL with a “dead arm.” They’re down two starting pitchers this week and have burned through the bullpen three times in four games. They brought up Kickham and sent him back down again.

Thank God for “Chainsaw Vogey” giving them 7 innings on Tuesday.

Someone’s coming–Petit? Escobar? Surkamp?

My fear is they’ll put Belt in to pitch, he’ll blow out his elbow and need TJ, and miss the entire 2014 season.

hitman

When do the Panda hoodies go on sale at 1/2 off? Heh,heh,heh!!

Foothills Ryan

Vegas,

Jeff Arnold hit his 13th HR. Batting .255. His stick can’t be all that bad. 🙂

MLBSF

smh

CARMOT
Take thy meds
Take thy meds
Take thy meds
Take thy meds

Open the bottle
And Take thy meds

Please
Please
Please

smh

Lefty

Foothills: Also a great outing for Ty Blach for SJ. That lefty’s having a really nice year.

WTF on Pill bunting for a hint? Did he get confused and think he’s Blanco?

carmot

Don’t forget another ex-A’s: Scutaro.

Where do we get these pitchers/players?
Why, from our AL Central Farm Team, of course.

If there is any carryover of bad juju from this year to next it will be something terrible like Scutaro needing back surgery and be out for all of 2014 because he was playing through serious injuries the 2nd half of this season. I HOPE it does NOT happen.

But isn’t the Torres story kinda telling folks?

Did I mention that I feel sick?

hitman

How can anyone in his right mind continue to watch this debacle? Heh,heh,heh!!

Lefty

Sorry–bunting for a HIT.

Also, was Jeff Arnold the catcher who was promoted with Blackburn last year so he could start the playoff game for San Jose? I thought that was a great story–Blackburn coming up from Augusta to start the FIRST playoff game for the Little Giants, pitching great, getting the win, and bringing his personal catcher with him.

The Oracle

The Giants’ 2013 highlights video will be narrated by Rod Serling. He’s coming back from the dead for this one.

408svl

if i have a say, i would want a HOMEGROWN GIANTS TEAM next year. i wont feel bad if PENCE will not be back or trade SANDOVAL and SCUTARO for that matter. it could happen. i heard BRIAN SABEAN interview on KNBR. i would say he is very articulate and at the same time methodically to what they are going to do next.

Matthew Lesko

How can the team with the 6th highest payroll (out of 30 teams) be so very bad?

ClutchUp

Pablo throws with either hand so he’ll help out Belt on the mound.

Is KROON still around?

hitman

I’m done with this nonsense. You won’t hear from me again this year! Heh,heh,heh!!

E-B

glad to learn Cainers x-rays negative.

hope he can take a very long rest; I think he needs it, cuz was getting shelled today.

at least r boys tied the game…at one point…well, before no more moscoso on the mound.

ClutchUp

Which Giant announcer is on

A-Sign-Ment ?

408svl

you ever notice, ” TRIPLE PLAY ” are pitching. i mean MOSCOSO, MIJARES and MACHI. wow!!! coincedence? see, ” I DREAM OF JEANNIE ” is working. never thought of it. now, i am learning from MR BRUCE ” BIG HEAD ” BOCHY.

D

Well at least Moscoso had a good AB this time.

Polioptila Californica

On the bright side, my fellow Gnatfans, we should be only 19 games behind the Puiggers after this one, and just 16.5 behind Cincy for the second wild card spot!

Oracle, what about Hembree? He’s throwing gas, has a nasty slider, and three out pitches now. 30 saves for Fresno. He’s ready.

I looked it up and it was Arnold who was promoted with Blackburn for that one playoff game for San Jose last year–incidentally putting Susac, one of the Giants’ top prospects, on the bench for the night.

That says a lot not only about their regard for Blackburn but also about Arnold. Wow!

Polioptila Californica

Gnatt Cain’s contract is an albatross that makes him the next Zito.

The Oracle

Lefty…yes, you’re right. Bring up all three.

Mendy Rudolph

Flopping in the NBA is now common. Is this what the Giants have done these past 2 games (12-1, 10-3)?

The Oracle

Jose Mijares in 2013…44.2 innings, 57 hits, 19 walks…awful. One thing this season has made painfully obvious is how important it is to have a deep bullpen.

408svl

old school baseball players used to say, ” it is not over till it’s over “. BUGS BUNNY said, ” that’s all, folks “. come on. i bleed GIANTS BASEBALL. will always be a GIANTSFOREVER. the GIANTS stood pat. and this is what we see this year. who could expected this? we are all in this and together they all STUNK.

E-B

Oracle: yup, a lockdown BP is so important.

i think Tony LaRussa said something about that…
(not exact quote) ‘ show me a good team, and i’ll show you a good bullpen.’

carmot

I thought we might see Peguero bat for Pence. I guess we still need a bench option for that last double-switch.

E-B

carmot: i’d have liked to see pegs too…

Lefty

A good bullpen is VERY important. The top three (Romo, Casilla, Lopez) are still very, very good. Rosario has been a nice surprise. Machi has been off and on but has had some good moments this season.

All the more reason to get some of the younger talent up here. They need to see if Dunning, Hembree, and Kontos are part of the answer for 2014 or if they need to put “veteran reliever” on the shopping list (also bearing in mind we still have Affeldt, too).

As Lefty reported, Arnold started ahead of Susac. Susac PH for Arnold in the bottom of the 7th inning and struck out. Susac replaced Arnold in the top of the 8th. Josh Osich replaced Blackburn in the top of the 8th.

Shawn Payne was promoted from Augusta to San Jose for the playoffs.

Go Giants.

E-B

c’mon tiburon…get on base

Dr. Zaius

I believe Cornelius, never having played the game, would be a fine leftfielder for the San Francisco Giants.

E-B

yahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

fresno grizzlies!

E-B

(well, a year and a half ago fresno grizzly)

Peter Cetera

Twenty five or six to four …

C’mon sing it with me

Twenty five or six to four.

E-B

hey Vegas, thx for the update!

blackburn WP gotta nice ring to it.

carmot

Yup, I agree. Bullpens are very important.

I think a lot of people don’t realize that bullpens need to throw over 400 IP per season, as much as two high-quality starters do in a year. Figure 2.5 innings per game on average for 162 games, and you have 400 IP.

With most guys “only” pitching 40-65-ish innings… Add in all the extra inning games and those where more than 4 IP are required… You have 425+ IP easy. You’ll need ‘bullpen depth’ to catch up on the math.

E-B

great play by the bear…

ClutchUp

What ever happened to the Pirates Lastings Milledge?

E-B

nice play boys!

carmot

That DP was smooooooth.

Did Pablo further injure himself on that first dive?
Oh gawd, I hope not.

Glad to see effort. Very glad.

E-B

yah, i hope pablo’s foot is ok too…

ClutchUp

Brett the Threat

Three Knocks

E-B

lefty, carmot: good posts on importance of a lockdown BP.

i think SFG understand this and i (presume) they will get their BP back to lockdown status.

seems to me the middle relief is a problem.
when gaudin moved the the rotation, it left a huge gap that was never filled. they’ve been grasping for straws all season, and it shows.

well, this won’t be popular…but i think they might be well served to go out and get a co-closer to join romo, and those 2 guys share 8th inning setup along w/ affelt, casilla, lopie (bcuz, 8th inning setup guys often face 3-4-5 hitters from opposing teams). move gaudin back to BP, and add another middle relief guy. (woops, now how many pitchers would that be? Lefty, need your help here…)

well, ’nuff said. i hope to see SFG return to their typical lockdown BP for next year.

dj

guys if you are bored, the world rowing championship starts sunday from S Korea. There will be exiting races

E-B

well…

overall, glad to hear Cainers is not seriously injured, in fact, this might be a blessing in disguise to give him a very long rest, ah, the rest of the season.

he did not look right today, and i think if the game had continued, buc-o’s would have continued shelling him.

Wow, the A’s got the-POTUS’-should-be-favorite-player back? Good for all of them. I always liked Suzuki. Give him a shot to help get the A’s deep into the playoffs. He missed a deep run last year.

Too bad Bochy threw up all over himself this game.

I was very pleased to see the level of play, effort, execution, communication, and commitment throughout this game. Yeah, they lost. But I thought they PLAYED much better. And (at least to me) that matters. I’m glad some Giants done good at the plate. PillzRgood!

The 5th inning didn’t need to happen. I blame Bochy.

And Cainer: heal up. Glad there’s no break. We all hope it isn’t serious. Rest up. You should have (double) as much time as you need.

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Escobar, Hembree & Perez. Lefty? Could you please help make the call. Get your peeps to call their peeps. Pronto! (Please?). Or do we toss Fitzgerald/Heston/Westcott into the fire if we need a 5th starter anytime soon?

Cain sux this year, he should be the #1 focus in 2014. The g’s can’t win w/o him and Bum at their best

NOSHAME

Can we expect that update on our horse before the next Kentucky Derby Latex? I mean Alex-T?

Eleuthero

Clydesdale Horse’s Ass said:
Matt Cain’s lifetime record is 93-86 record.
Matt Cain’s salary in 2013 is $20 million.
Matt Cain’s prior postseason success means nothing if his team does not make the playoffs.
Matt Cain is no longer the ace of the staff.
Matt Cain will never be elected to the Hall of Fame.
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Nice show of empathy for an injured guy who has always gotten the run-support shaft. His career ERA is 3.37 which is EXCELLENT. Had he played on teams that could hit, that ERA would have earned him a .600+ win percentage with EASE. This guy should be 160-100. Other teams have batted .226 against him for his career. In 2010-2011 Cain had a combined record of 25-22 with an ERA of 3.02. Yet he NEVER blames his teammates for this.

If Cain does not go to Cooperstown after he retires, it won’t be because he doesn’t deserve it. It’ll be because his lineup delivered up so many no-decisions when he leaves 1-1 games after 7 innings. Compare this to guys like Zito in 2012. Zito was luckier than a sh*thouse rat in 2012 compiling a 15-8 record with a 4.15 ERA.

I’m not going to watch slurs cast upon Cain because he’s having his ONLY bummer season of a stellar career and is a class act.

Eleuthero

Wow, I looked it up. If the Giants stay in last place (looking like a 70/30 probability) they will be the SECOND MLB team of all time to go from first to worst in the World Series Era starting in 1903. The only other team: The 1998 Florida Marlins. One-hundred-ten years.

This year is a “less than reverstion to the mean” year but with such a thin bench and lousy farm system, I’m afraid that even an “improvement” to their TRUE mean, this team finishes in the bottom half of the NL West for many years to come.

Just as winning begets morale and more winning (this years Dodgers!!), losing often quickly turns “we are family” to clubhouse fights. The guys I have the most empathy for? Bumgarner and Cain. Both guys in five years could well have career 3.0-3.3 ERAs and end up below .500. Cain right now with 3.37 for a career is only 93-86. One bummer year is something all ballplayers learn to accept. Even a couple. What happens after it turns in 5, 6, 7 bummers?

This year is HISTORICALLY ugly but I fear that the ugliness is much closer to its start than its end. You can tell even Kuip and Kruk are running out of ways to keep us amused.

Cazajejenes

Gnatt Cain gnows how to lose.

Dream washed-up. Dream GNATS.

Cazajejenes

Gnats should have acquired Suzuki. At least he gnows how to play the position.