Roswell was staged...by the aliens.

It was 1947. The United States had just won the 2nd world war and was, for all intents and purposes, 50 years ahead of every other country (economically, philosophically, scientifically, etc.). It was the beginning of the Cold War and the whole world had just witnessed the devastating power of atomic weapons. The east and west were on the edge of their nuclear seats and the one thing this country could not accept was military incompetence on the part of the Air Force.

Now consider:

Up to this point, aside from some minor and inconsequential (not to say likely spurious) events, a UFO had never crashed in modern history. So all of a sudden, after thousands of years of going about to and fro, a flying saucer crashes in New Mexico. Also consider the PLACE this happened: 10 miles from Roswell Army Air Field; all of our nuclear weapons were here with the 509th bomber squadron, waiting for the signal in case of attack by the Soviet Union, within 200 miles of White Sands where ALL nuclear weapons testing was taking place. AND again, right at the beginning of the Cold War. Do these circumstances not scream something a little more than coincidence?

Would it have been wise for extraterrestrial biological entities to simply land and say, "Hi guys! We've been watching you for some time. Our technology is quite literally light years beyond anything you've developed!" They'd have to know they'd never get an honest reaction from us. But what if they could crash an object right near our most heavily guarded and important facilities...in the country that had just attained almost full control of the entire planet...right at the beginning of the scariest time in history...and give us some bodies. They'd get to see how we reacted without knowing we were being watched. We'd show our true colors. So we kept it under wraps. The one thing the military could not admit was that the Air Force could not do their single most important job: protecting our most secure air space and our last line of defense. Maybe we failed a test?

Read "Abduction," by John Mack, former head of Harvard psychology department. Also, Whitley Strieber's books, "Communion," "Transformation," and "Confirmation" are all good sources. Budd Hopkins has some good material as well.

Op, I had heard about what you claim years ago too.I heard that some aliens volunteered to scarfice themselves for the good of universe. As a way of service to others so to speak.Years later I read the book, conversation with god, the book also mentioned that the aliens crashed deliberately.

Read "Abduction," by John Mack, former head of Harvard psychology department. Also, Whitley Strieber's books, "Communion," "Transformation," and "Confirmation" are all good sources. Budd Hopkins has some good material as well.

Quoting: Kai D Kravit (VALIS)

Thanks for your suggestions.

I have two suggestions for you:

1. Everytime you are presented with information ask yourself,qui bono? To who's benefit is it that adopt this mindset or accept this knowledge?

Read "Abduction," by John Mack, former head of Harvard psychology department. Also, Whitley Strieber's books, "Communion," "Transformation," and "Confirmation" are all good sources. Budd Hopkins has some good material as well.

Quoting: Kai D Kravit (VALIS)

Thanks for your suggestions.

I have two suggestions for you:

1. Everytime you are presented with information ask yourself,qui bono? To who's benefit is it that adopt this mindset or accept this knowledge?

Also I am aware of the "grey evil agenda" crap. Do you not think it possible by this same standard that certain "grey" aliens may be infiltrating all levels of government and society in order to save everything? This seems just as likely.

Also I am aware of the "grey evil agenda" crap. Do you not think it possible by this same standard that certain "grey" aliens may be infiltrating all levels of government and society in order to save everything? This seems just as likely.

Quoting: Kai D Kravit (VALIS)

I am not aware of different types of Greys.That certainly does not preclude the possibility, however I am confident in the validity of my previous posts here.

Every account of a "grey" abduction I have read includes several factors.

- Abductees (including Betty and Barney Hill, presumably the first) usually do not have conscious recall. When they do, however, they describe aliens that are "confused" by their fear. In fact many abductees discuss the "greys" asking questions like, "Why are you afraid? You should be proud." They appear confused by our overt emotional reactions.

- Abductees report having a total lack of pain during these "procedures." Instead they feel abnormal amounts of "pressure" where pain should be relevant.

- Abductees also claim quite often that when they ask for things or to observe various parts of the craft they occupy, the beings often respond positively. Several civilians and military personnel have respectively related stories such as these.

So it seems that although alien abduction is, in fact, quite terrifying for humans, the aliens themselves seem to quell this fear purposefully and always return their "guests." I have also never heard of "mind control" associations other than from government personnel, who quite obviously are the ones not to be believed. They lie about everything else. Why not aliens too?

That is a mighty huge assumption.Some of these folks might think differently.---

"As of December 31, 2012, NCIC contained 87,217 active missing person records. Juveniles under the age of 18 account for 32,225 (36.9 %) of the records and 15,141 (17.4 %) were for juveniles between the ages of 18 and 20.*

During 2012, 661,593 missing person records were entered into NCIC, a decrease of 2.5 % from the 678,860 records entered in 2011. " [link to www.fbi.gov]

That is a mighty huge assumption.Some of these folks might think differently.---

"As of December 31, 2012, NCIC contained 87,217 active missing person records. Juveniles under the age of 18 account for 32,225 (36.9 %) of the records and 15,141 (17.4 %) were for juveniles between the ages of 18 and 20.*

During 2012, 661,593 missing person records were entered into NCIC, a decrease of 2.5 % from the 678,860 records entered in 2011. " [link to www.fbi.gov]

Quoting: wisc_natureboy

I must concede on this point. I cannot argue with that. However, it seems unlikely that they would return SOME and not all. But perhaps, like you stated earlier, there is more than one group at work here.

It was 1947. The United States had just won the 2nd world war and was, for all intents and purposes, 50 years ahead of every other country (economically, philosophically, scientifically, etc.). It was the beginning of the Cold War and the whole world had just witnessed the devastating power of atomic weapons. The east and west were on the edge of their nuclear seats and the one thing this country could not accept was military incompetence on the part of the Air Force.

Now consider:

Up to this point, aside from some minor and inconsequential my (not to say likely spurious) events, a UFO had never crashed in modern history. So all of a sudden, after thousands of years of going about to and fro, a flying saucer crashes in New Mexico. Also consider the PLACE this happened: 10 miles from Roswell Army Air Field; all of our nuclear weapons were here with the 509th bomber squadron, waiting for the signal in case of attack by the Soviet Union, within 20 miles of White Sands where ALL nuclear weapons testing was taking place. AND again, right at the beginning of the Cold War. Do these circumstances not scream something a little more than coincidence?

Would it have been wise for extraterrestrial biological entities to simply land and say, "Hi guys! We've been watching you for some time. Our technology is quite literally light years beyond anything you've developed!" They'd have to know they'd never get an honest reaction from us. But what if they could crash an object right near our most heavily guarded and important facilities...in the country that had just attained almost full control of the entire planet...right at the beginning of the scariest time in history...and give us some bodies. They'd get to see how we reacted without knowing we were being watched. We'd show our true colors. So we kept it under wraps. The one thing the military could not admit was that the Air Force could not do their single most important job: protecting our most secure air space and our last line of defense. Maybe we failed a test?

It was 1947. The United States had just won the 2nd world war and was, for all intents and purposes, 50 years ahead of every other country (economically, philosophically, scientifically, etc.). It was the beginning of the Cold War and the whole world had just witnessed the devastating power of atomic weapons. The east and west were on the edge of their nuclear seats and the one thing this country could not accept was military incompetence on the part of the Air Force.

Now consider:

Up to this point, aside from some minor and inconsequential my (not to say likely spurious) events, a UFO had never crashed in modern history. So all of a sudden, after thousands of years of going about to and fro, a flying saucer crashes in New Mexico. Also consider the PLACE this happened: 10 miles from Roswell Army Air Field; all of our nuclear weapons were here with the 509th bomber squadron, waiting for the signal in case of attack by the Soviet Union, within 20 miles of White Sands where ALL nuclear weapons testing was taking place. AND again, right at the beginning of the Cold War. Do these circumstances not scream something a little more than coincidence?

Would it have been wise for extraterrestrial biological entities to simply land and say, "Hi guys! We've been watching you for some time. Our technology is quite literally light years beyond anything you've developed!" They'd have to know they'd never get an honest reaction from us. But what if they could crash an object right near our most heavily guarded and important facilities...in the country that had just attained almost full control of the entire planet...right at the beginning of the scariest time in history...and give us some bodies. They'd get to see how we reacted without knowing we were being watched. We'd show our true colors. So we kept it under wraps. The one thing the military could not admit was that the Air Force could not do their single most important job: protecting our most secure air space and our last line of defense. Maybe we failed a test?

Quoting: Kai D Kravit (VALIS)

Roswell and Alamogordo are around 170 miles apart, not 20, but I understand what you're saying.

It was 1947. The United States had just won the 2nd world war and was, for all intents and purposes, 50 years ahead of every other country (economically, philosophically, scientifically, etc.). It was the beginning of the Cold War and the whole world had just witnessed the devastating power of atomic weapons. The east and west were on the edge of their nuclear seats and the one thing this country could not accept was military incompetence on the part of the Air Force.

Now consider:

Up to this point, aside from some minor and inconsequential my (not to say likely spurious) events, a UFO had never crashed in modern history. So all of a sudden, after thousands of years of going about to and fro, a flying saucer crashes in New Mexico. Also consider the PLACE this happened: 10 miles from Roswell Army Air Field; all of our nuclear weapons were here with the 509th bomber squadron, waiting for the signal in case of attack by the Soviet Union, within 20 miles of White Sands where ALL nuclear weapons testing was taking place. AND again, right at the beginning of the Cold War. Do these circumstances not scream something a little more than coincidence?

Would it have been wise for extraterrestrial biological entities to simply land and say, "Hi guys! We've been watching you for some time. Our technology is quite literally light years beyond anything you've developed!" They'd have to know they'd never get an honest reaction from us. But what if they could crash an object right near our most heavily guarded and important facilities...in the country that had just attained almost full control of the entire planet...right at the beginning of the scariest time in history...and give us some bodies. They'd get to see how we reacted without knowing we were being watched. We'd show our true colors. So we kept it under wraps. The one thing the military could not admit was that the Air Force could not do their single most important job: protecting our most secure air space and our last line of defense. Maybe we failed a test?

Quoting: Kai D Kravit (VALIS)

Nope.It was staged by Project Paperclip.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42960928

Paperclip involved transfer of scientists from Nazi Germany and had no correlation to Roswell. Do you mean Project Mogul?

It was 1947. The United States had just won the 2nd world war and was, for all intents and purposes, 50 years ahead of every other country (economically, philosophically, scientifically, etc.). It was the beginning of the Cold War and the whole world had just witnessed the devastating power of atomic weapons. The east and west were on the edge of their nuclear seats and the one thing this country could not accept was military incompetence on the part of the Air Force.

Now consider:

Up to this point, aside from some minor and inconsequential my (not to say likely spurious) events, a UFO had never crashed in modern history. So all of a sudden, after thousands of years of going about to and fro, a flying saucer crashes in New Mexico. Also consider the PLACE this happened: 10 miles from Roswell Army Air Field; all of our nuclear weapons were here with the 509th bomber squadron, waiting for the signal in case of attack by the Soviet Union, within 20 miles of White Sands where ALL nuclear weapons testing was taking place. AND again, right at the beginning of the Cold War. Do these circumstances not scream something a little more than coincidence?

Would it have been wise for extraterrestrial biological entities to simply land and say, "Hi guys! We've been watching you for some time. Our technology is quite literally light years beyond anything you've developed!" They'd have to know they'd never get an honest reaction from us. But what if they could crash an object right near our most heavily guarded and important facilities...in the country that had just attained almost full control of the entire planet...right at the beginning of the scariest time in history...and give us some bodies. They'd get to see how we reacted without knowing we were being watched. We'd show our true colors. So we kept it under wraps. The one thing the military could not admit was that the Air Force could not do their single most important job: protecting our most secure air space and our last line of defense. Maybe we failed a test?

Quoting: Kai D Kravit (VALIS)

Roswell and Alamogordo are around 170 miles apart, not 20, but I understand what you're saying.

It was 1947. The United States had just won the 2nd world war and was, for all intents and purposes, 50 years ahead of every other country (economically, philosophically, scientifically, etc.). It was the beginning of the Cold War and the whole world had just witnessed the devastating power of atomic weapons. The east and west were on the edge of their nuclear seats and the one thing this country could not accept was military incompetence on the part of the Air Force.

Now consider:

Up to this point, aside from some minor and inconsequential my (not to say likely spurious) events, a UFO had never crashed in modern history. So all of a sudden, after thousands of years of going about to and fro, a flying saucer crashes in New Mexico. Also consider the PLACE this happened: 10 miles from Roswell Army Air Field; all of our nuclear weapons were here with the 509th bomber squadron, waiting for the signal in case of attack by the Soviet Union, within 20 miles of White Sands where ALL nuclear weapons testing was taking place. AND again, right at the beginning of the Cold War. Do these circumstances not scream something a little more than coincidence?

Would it have been wise for extraterrestrial biological entities to simply land and say, "Hi guys! We've been watching you for some time. Our technology is quite literally light years beyond anything you've developed!" They'd have to know they'd never get an honest reaction from us. But what if they could crash an object right near our most heavily guarded and important facilities...in the country that had just attained almost full control of the entire planet...right at the beginning of the scariest time in history...and give us some bodies. They'd get to see how we reacted without knowing we were being watched. We'd show our true colors. So we kept it under wraps. The one thing the military could not admit was that the Air Force could not do their single most important job: protecting our most secure air space and our last line of defense. Maybe we failed a test?

Quoting: Kai D Kravit (VALIS)

Roswell and Alamogordo are around 170 miles apart, not 20, but I understand what you're saying.

That's too bad. Like Mickey the Grey and his dog ET. But seriously, back to some real info:

"We recycle souls." A message from the "greys" given to Whitley Strieber. If they are in fact constructs, is it possible that they have found a way to take "souls," ascended consciousnesses, or higher-dimensional minds (whatever you want to call them) and create biosynthetic construct bodies for them? Perhaps they are not aliens as we think of them but are in fact "spirits" that were once human or otherwise and have found a way to build or grow empty vessels with which to inhabit? Pretty intense but it would be in line with the words of many an abductee.

It was 1947. The United States had just won the 2nd world war and was, for all intents and purposes, 50 years ahead of every other country (economically, philosophically, scientifically, etc.). It was the beginning of the Cold War and the whole world had just witnessed the devastating power of atomic weapons. The east and west were on the edge of their nuclear seats and the one thing this country could not accept was military incompetence on the part of the Air Force.

Now consider:

Up to this point, aside from some minor and inconsequential (not to say likely spurious) events, a UFO had never crashed in modern history. So all of a sudden, after thousands of years of going about to and fro, a flying saucer crashes in New Mexico. Also consider the PLACE this happened: 10 miles from Roswell Army Air Field; all of our nuclear weapons were here with the 509th bomber squadron, waiting for the signal in case of attack by the Soviet Union, within 200 miles of White Sands where ALL nuclear weapons testing was taking place. AND again, right at the beginning of the Cold War. Do these circumstances not scream something a little more than coincidence?

Would it have been wise for extraterrestrial biological entities to simply land and say, "Hi guys! We've been watching you for some time. Our technology is quite literally light years beyond anything you've developed!" They'd have to know they'd never get an honest reaction from us. But what if they could crash an object right near our most heavily guarded and important facilities...in the country that had just attained almost full control of the entire planet...right at the beginning of the scariest time in history...and give us some bodies. They'd get to see how we reacted without knowing we were being watched. We'd show our true colors. So we kept it under wraps. The one thing the military could not admit was that the Air Force could not do their single most important job: protecting our most secure air space and our last line of defense. Maybe we failed a test?

Quoting: Kai D Kravit (VALIS)

Well ok then, but have you included the occult significance of the numerology surrounding the Roswell event?

It was 1947. The United States had just won the 2nd world war and was, for all intents and purposes, 50 years ahead of every other country (economically, philosophically, scientifically, etc.). It was the beginning of the Cold War and the whole world had just witnessed the devastating power of atomic weapons. The east and west were on the edge of their nuclear seats and the one thing this country could not accept was military incompetence on the part of the Air Force.

Now consider:

Up to this point, aside from some minor and inconsequential (not to say likely spurious) events, a UFO had never crashed in modern history. So all of a sudden, after thousands of years of going about to and fro, a flying saucer crashes in New Mexico. Also consider the PLACE this happened: 10 miles from Roswell Army Air Field; all of our nuclear weapons were here with the 509th bomber squadron, waiting for the signal in case of attack by the Soviet Union, within 200 miles of White Sands where ALL nuclear weapons testing was taking place. AND again, right at the beginning of the Cold War. Do these circumstances not scream something a little more than coincidence?

Would it have been wise for extraterrestrial biological entities to simply land and say, "Hi guys! We've been watching you for some time. Our technology is quite literally light years beyond anything you've developed!" They'd have to know they'd never get an honest reaction from us. But what if they could crash an object right near our most heavily guarded and important facilities...in the country that had just attained almost full control of the entire planet...right at the beginning of the scariest time in history...and give us some bodies. They'd get to see how we reacted without knowing we were being watched. We'd show our true colors. So we kept it under wraps. The one thing the military could not admit was that the Air Force could not do their single most important job: protecting our most secure air space and our last line of defense. Maybe we failed a test?

Quoting: Kai D Kravit (VALIS)

Well ok then, but have you included the occult significance of the numerology surrounding the Roswell event?