(Original post by chill543)
i have seen so many terrible players with him now, and not many good :/

I've been positive in every game playing him top (assuming we realize the arbitrary difference between assists and kills). I think he is much better there than bot. You just have to know when to switch forms. He absolutely wrecks Riven, for example. I have, however, lost most of these games - usually due to one useless player.

(Original post by paddy__power)
I've been positive in every game playing him top (assuming we realize the arbitrary difference between assists and kills). I think he is much better there than bot. You just have to know when to switch forms. He absolutely wrecks Riven, for example. I have, however, lost most of these games - usually due to one useless player.

the cannon of his is really good through that accelaration gate i love that!

Any team with malphite is a gem for the team. He basically disrupts everyone with his ultimate and can win teamfights single-handedly (guaranteed it's not 1v5 and it's actually 4v5 or 5v5, but he actually makes the teamfight)

(Original post by koolkelv)
Any team with malphite is a gem for the team. He basically disrupts everyone with his ultimate and can win teamfights single-handedly (guaranteed it's not 1v5 and it's actually 4v5 or 5v5, but he actually makes the teamfight)

If you can guarantee the enemy team to be naive enough to be grouped up like a flock of chickens in preparation to be butchered by the KFC franchise.

Nor does he do anywhere near as well as a Maokai against double AP team compositions, far from being a gem versus any team.

(Original post by Zurvan)
If you can guarantee the enemy team to be naive enough to be grouped up like a flock of chickens in preparation to be butchered by the KFC franchise.

Nor does he do anywhere near as well as a Maokai against double AP team compositions, far from being a gem versus any team.

Don't need to be grouped together. Even if he just takes out the AD carry, his E lowers his AS to very low, and slows him down. His job as a tank is complete. And he disrupts any suppression. It works well until you're at a decent level. I'm just first picking him whenever I can because he can work well as top, jungle and support

You'd be absolutely idiotic to say that he loses some of his amazingness versus double AP but you'd be equally idiotic to say he's useless against double AP, just need to adapt the build.

The fact he has a 50% attack speed debuff built into his kit and an unblockable (bar Sivir, noct, morg and banshees shield) ultimate with fairly decent range means you should always be able to cripple the enemy AD carry.

You'd be absolutely idiotic to say that he loses some of his amazingness versus double AP but you'd be equally idiotic to say he's useless against double AP, just need to adapt the build.

The fact he has a 50% attack speed debuff built into his kit and an unblockable (bar Sivir, noct, morg and banshees shield) ultimate with fairly decent range means you should always be able to cripple the enemy AD carry.

I didn't imply that he was useless against double AP compositions just not as good as other choices (such as Maokai as said...). I thought it was rather obvious and self-explanatory that he wouldn't be as effective (see I'm now bolding it as to make it furthermore clearer to avoid confusion ) against a double AP composition then one with a bruiser on top in comparison to other choices within the top or jungle position.

By the way to say that is ultimate is "unblockable" is pretty laughable, anyone with a decent reaction speed can avoid the collision of his ultimate with Flash or more precisely AD carries with a blink such as Ezreal.

Malphite is a generally good pick, but some people really need to understand when to use and time his ultimate correctly. Multiple times I've seen them try to initiate wrongly, dying and then blaming the team, or they go in alone for a single kill vs 5 champs. Also seeing a lot of Jayce. His damage and combo is quite powerful when I'm against him, yet when I have one on my team, he's usually not doing much >.> curse my luck.
On the upside, Lux buffs are just awesome now you can stay in lane longer than 5 seconds after casting two spells in a short period

If i'm playing Malphite against a strong AP team, you take Abyssal Scepter and Athene's Unholy Grail and then you have a lot of AP damage, while still getting a lot of MR plus you can still build up 3-4 very good strong armor items. I ended up being able to destroy a whole team in a matter of seconds with a strong armor hp build while still taking those two items.

(Original post by Rarrgh)
If i'm playing Malphite against a strong AP team, you take Abyssal Scepter and Athene's Unholy Grail and then you have a lot of AP damage, while still getting a lot of MR plus you can still build up 3-4 very good strong armor items. I ended up being able to destroy a whole team in a matter of seconds with a strong armor hp build while still taking those two items.

Yeah, Abyssal Specter is a pretty swell item to get on Malphite even to be considered when your team deals a lot of magical damage as to nullify their resistance with the passive utility aura is brings. Athene's Unholy Grail on the other hand is pretty meh, hardly brings any magic resistance and you aren't really that mana hungry so Force of Nature, Banshee or Aegis are usually just better options.

Point still stands though, that his kit simply works better stacking armor then magic resist.

(Original post by Zurvan)
Yeah, Abyssal Specter is a pretty swell item to get on Malphite even to be considered when your team deals a lot of magical damage as to nullify their resistance with the passive utility aura is brings. Athene's Unholy Grail on the other hand is pretty meh, hardly brings any magic resistance and you aren't really that mana hungry so Force of Nature, Banshee or Aegis are usually just better options.

Point still stands though, that his kit simply works better stacking armor then magic resist.

Athene's Unholy Grail just tops off the MR while giving a good amount of AP which helps with 2 of his abilities. Plus I am using chalice and unholy grail all the time nowadays cause well I use mana too much I like the security it gives of making it so that you are always able to cast off some abilities

(Original post by chill543)
anybody know some good jungle chars? (thinking of getting udyr)
one for higher elo games?

I like Udyr and Jarvan in the jungle, they both have strong early ganks and can get very tanky late game.

However, I think Nocturne and Nautilus are probably better, I would buy one of these if I had some spare IP, they are the two I would recommend that you learn at the moment. Other strong contenders are jungle Malphite and Maokai!

(Original post by Daniel_R)
Ive just started playing this game its fun

Glad you enjoy it! Who is your favourite champion? If you have any questions just post