do you not know which one of these has done what for you, so do not understand with your own judgement what is effective, and what is not?

if so, I cannot help you, other than to say:
throwing a multitude of things together just because they sound good and seem to be a good "stack" does not mean to ignore the benefit you see from each one individually

try eliminating all of them, and adding in (slowly) one by one, to see if there is any change..
then, you can make your own decision here w/o any else's guidance

Depends on your budget, personally if it were me I would get rid of the UR Spray and GPLC first. Alphamine is good but what exactly are you using it to accomplish? You could dump the L-Citrulline and Agmatine and get it in a combined supplement (with other ingredients) in High Volume as well, check the link here: http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/a...295-grams.html

Depends on your budget, personally if it were me I would get rid of the UR Spray and GPLC first. Alphamine is good but what exactly are you using it to accomplish? You could dump the L-Citrulline and Agmatine and get it in a combined supplement (with other ingredients) in High Volume as well, check the link here: http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/a...295-grams.html

Very much worth the switch on Agmatine/Citrulline, nice combo adding the GMS and Plantago.

Alphamine/High Volume seems like a great stack for fat burning and vasculairty.

peronally I've never used supplements. Just good old chicken, fish, beef and milk.

Well I do commend you for that, I think we all forget sometimes just how important it is to make sure you are even getting enough calories before looking to supplements. I think it is everyone's first mistake when they start lifting.

Well I do commend you for that, I think we all forget sometimes just how important it is to make sure you are even getting enough calories before looking to supplements. I think it is everyone's first mistake when they start lifting.

He doesn't use supps. Only prescription drugs like modafinil (serious, check his post in advanced discussion)

http://pescience.com/
http://selectprotein.com/
The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES

That's how I was til I researched it for 8 months and finally ran a cycle. As long as you know your stuff, researched plenty you'll do fine on cycle it's not as bad as people make it out to be.

research =/= success. Despite all proper PCT's and on cycle support (Hcg etc.) there is a very real chance that you will never rebound from test use (i.e. restore normal HPTA function). When a person starts there first cycle it is very important that they understand this risk that they might never be the same again.

research =/= success. Despite all proper PCT's and on cycle support (Hcg etc.) there is a very real chance that you will never rebound from test use (i.e. restore normal HPTA function). When a person starts there first cycle it is very important that they understand this risk that they might never be the same again.

Some people do recover, but it is not a guarantee.

My balls grew bigger then before and my facial hair grows faster then before still. If anything I'm getting more test now then before cycle, I'm doing lab tests in a couple days to confirm.

research =/= success. Despite all proper PCT's and on cycle support (Hcg etc.) there is a very real chance that you will never rebound from test use (i.e. restore normal HPTA function). When a person starts there first cycle it is very important that they understand this risk that they might never be the same again.

Some people do recover, but it is not a guarantee.

Good post... it's something people ignore far too often or fail to realize