Is "luxury" still luxury?

In my opinion many new luxury cars..at least the cheaper one's (lexus, acura, buick, mercury etc) are not the same luxury..some i am not even sure are luxury at all....

today it seems like a luxury car passes for a car with some wood grain, leather, and a gps system...it doesn't really even have to be comfortable..

the older more traditional luxury cars imo were much more comfortable with seats...and offered much more leg room and overall just looked nicer in the interior also..

today's seats are nothing like they were, legroom is at a minimum, and the interior's for the most part are more "plasticky" then they ever were...

so what do you think?
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Well ACURA, BUICK, MERCURY (OMG!!!, did he just type that) are all considered Near Lux. As for Lexus with the exception of the ES, not sure why you invluded that in there. I am actually kinda lost with this thread. Which cars currently would you consider Luxury, that meets all those things you mentioned.
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rolls bentley (obviously) mercedes some bimmers some audi's some buicks some lexus etc...

i should have said some specific cars not entire brands but whatever...

cars like the escalade, lexus is series and gx...those specifically are not as " luxury" as the brand name seems to say that they are
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i should have said some specific cars not entire brands but whatever...

cars like the escalade, lexus is series and gx...those specifically are not as " luxury" as the brand name seems to say that they are

I think the lade (even if its rebdaged, granted its GREAT! REBADGE) is as luxurious as anything else out there. What makes it Non luxurious in your eyes, and what would make it MORE LUXRIOUS. You talked about room, how much more room do you want. The ride is soft and comfortable, has good giddy up, wrapped in leather and nice woods. I just dont see what else they could have done, besides giving it its own platform, so it doesnt resemble its brothers so much. But I think its very luxurious, its screams luxury even its more on the bling side.
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i should have said some specific cars not entire brands but whatever...

cars like the escalade, lexus is series and gx...those specifically are not as " luxury" as the brand name seems to say that they are

chaise1984:I think the lade (even if its rebdaged, granted its GREAT! REBADGE) is as luxurious as anything else out there. What makes it Non luxurious in your eyes, and what would make it MORE LUXRIOUS. You talked about room, how much more room do you want. The ride is soft and comfortable, has good giddy up, wrapped in leather and nice woods. I just dont see what else they could have done, besides giving it its own platform, so it doesnt resemble its brothers so much. But I think its very luxurious, its screams luxury even its more on the bling side.

well in the case of the escalade it's not all too much different from a suburban...how can it be luxury and not the suburban then?

In the case of the IS legroom is the problem..that and the seats are not exactly forgiving...and it's a luxury car? my impala (not a luxury car) was 10times more comfortable.....
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i should have said some specific cars not entire brands but whatever...

cars like the escalade, lexus is series and gx...those specifically are not as " luxury" as the brand name seems to say that they are

chaise1984:I think the lade (even if its rebdaged, granted its GREAT! REBADGE) is as luxurious as anything else out there. What makes it Non luxurious in your eyes, and what would make it MORE LUXRIOUS. You talked about room, how much more room do you want. The ride is soft and comfortable, has good giddy up, wrapped in leather and nice woods. I just dont see what else they could have done, besides giving it its own platform, so it doesnt resemble its brothers so much. But I think its very luxurious, its screams luxury even its more on the bling side.

camaross427 XxX:well in the case of the escalade it's not all too much different from a suburban...how can it be luxury and not the suburban then?

In the case of the IS legroom is the problem..that and the seats are not exactly forgiving...and it's a luxury car? my impala (not a luxury car) was 10times more comfortable.....

i should have said some specific cars not entire brands but whatever...

cars like the escalade, lexus is series and gx...those specifically are not as " luxury" as the brand name seems to say that they are

chaise1984:I think the lade (even if its rebdaged, granted its GREAT! REBADGE) is as luxurious as anything else out there. What makes it Non luxurious in your eyes, and what would make it MORE LUXRIOUS. You talked about room, how much more room do you want. The ride is soft and comfortable, has good giddy up, wrapped in leather and nice woods. I just dont see what else they could have done, besides giving it its own platform, so it doesnt resemble its brothers so much. But I think its very luxurious, its screams luxury even its more on the bling side.

camaross427 XxX:well in the case of the escalade it's not all too much different from a suburban...how can it be luxury and not the suburban then?

In the case of the IS legroom is the problem..that and the seats are not exactly forgiving...and it's a luxury car? my impala (not a luxury car) was 10times more comfortable.....

Preza:Your Impala was the Toyota Camry of the day. Far from luxury.

my impala (not a luxury car) was 10times more comfortable..

i said it wasn't a luxury car...i just said it was more comfortable...

i miss my impala..(no the one pictured above is not mine)
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I think in reality, it comes down to the badge. MB, BMW, Lexus and other will always be known as luxurious. Buick, Acura and others will be near lux. Then there are the Hondas, Toyotas and some American cars that have just as many features as the luxes. I think it is mostly about the badge!

Luxury isn't what it used to be because cars move upmarket. An EX-L Accord today is comparable to most luxury cars. But look back 20 years and there would be a gap as wide as a sea.
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MazHonda:I think in reality, it comes down to the badge. MB, BMW, Lexus and other will always be known as luxurious. Buick, Acura and others will be near lux. Then there are the Hondas, Toyotas and some American cars that have just as many features as the luxes. I think it is mostly about the badge!

that pretty much sums up what i am trying to eventually get at
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In a lot of cars/trucks it's all about the mpg's, or top speed, or towing capacity, etc. In a luxury car it's all supposed to be about YOU. Are you warm/cool enough? Seat comfortable enough? Quiet enough? Would you like some music? Gadgets do not equal luxury!

RE: Assembler:In a lot of cars/trucks it's all about the mpg's, or top speed, or towing capacity, etc. In a luxury car it's all supposed to be about YOU. Are you warm/cool enough? Seat comfortable enough? Quiet enough? Would you like some music? Gadgets do not equal luxury!

that's what i mean..today it seems like ipod jacks gps systems and tv's make a car luxyr..which really have nothing to do with luxury
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Probably the most "user centered" luxury car I ever had was my 1978 Chrysler New Yorker St. Regis coupe. You sat on a tufted leather pillow - the pillow sat on a cushion almost a foot thick. If you ever felt a bump you were "off road". In the morning, if you moved the defroster to "max" the engine idle rose a few hundred rpm, for more heat and power, because you requested it "now". "yes sir!" said the car. Both the heater and air could kill at max setting. Pillows and adjustable reading lamps were provided for the rear passengers. A make up mirror with both an "indoor" and an "outdoor" lighting setting was provided on the passenger visor. Dead quiet at 80 mph. I don't think I'll ever meet it's equal again.