Charlottesville 2

What the liberal/progressive/left is trying to do with Charlottesville is to associate Trump supporters with White Supremacists and in this way demonize Trump supporters so that they will not have a voice when Trump is overthrown in a coup. Or it can be put in a different way: Charlottesville is being used by someone to discredit Trump and the people who elected him in order to pave the way for a coup, and the liberal/progressive/left is enabling the plot.

Upon reflection, I think that for most of the liberal/progressive/left the denunciations and one-sided interpretation of Charlottesville are just the ingrained knee-jerk reaction of people brought up in Identity Politics. In Identity Politics, everyone is a White Hat except racist, sexist, homophobic, gun-nut white males. The only tolerable white males are those who accept this characterization of themselves. All others are “white supremacists” or “nazis.”

From what I read on progressive websites, those imbued with Identity Politics are letting the emotionalism of the politics run away with them. My friend, Rob Kall, who is fair and open-minded and posts my columns on OpEdNews, including those to which he takes exception, writes: “Trump is Now the Leader of White Supremacists and Nazis.” Rob reaches this conclusion because Trump held both sides responsible for the violence in Charlottesville. By seeing equivalence between the two sides, “He made it clear that he was siding with the White Supremacists, giving them aid, support and encouragement.” https://www.opednews.com/artic (You might remember Jean Kirkpatrick who denounced liberals for seeing moral equivalence between the Soviet Union and the US.) I doubt this is the way Trump saw his statement. From the news videos I saw, there seemed to be plenty of hate on both sides. Certainly, there is plenty of hate for Trump among progressives.

In the Washington Post, Alexandra Petri finds Trump’s words condemning the violence on both aides to be “despicable words.” Petri apparently thinks that, counter to what the news coverage shows, the counter protesters did not engage in any violence, or else she thinks that violence from this side was justified but not violence from the other side. She condemns Trump for his statement: “We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides.” In her opinion, the last three words, “on many sides” shows that Trump is partial to White Supremacists. http://www.denverpost.com/2017

Richard Eskow joins the chorus. He links together deaths in Charlottesville, New York, Portland, Charleston, under “white nationalist terror” and hands them to Trump. https://www.opednews.com/artic

The Daily Kos also equates Trump’s blaming both sides for the violence, which is what the media reports show to be the case, with a defense of “white supremacist/neo-Nazi violence.” https://www.opednews.com/artic

Joe Macare at Truthout tells us that “Truthout will continue to report on the threat of neo-Nazis in the street — as well as those in the White House who are in lockstep with their agenda. We’ll talk to the people organizing against fascism on all fronts. We won’t equivocate or condemn ‘both sides.’ We won’t blame the Nazis’ targets for the hate they receive. But we know that these are not the only faces of racism. Whether it manifests itself in education policy, in gentrification, in economic inequality, in racist policing or in the United States’ immigration and ‘defense’ policies, Truthout will continue exposing white supremacy in all its forms.”

Truthout’s Anna Sutton expresses her “Heartbreak, Anger.” She doesn’t know where to begin. But she sees a fundraising opportunity. Make a donation and Truthout will “tell it like it is” against the “corporate and right-wing media” that are “bending over backwards to normalize Trump and the violence and xenophobia displayed by his rabid followers.” One wonders what corporate right-wing media she is talking about, The New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, all of which denounce Trump 24/7?

How do we avoid the question: who is over the top, the “alt-right” at Charlottesville or their progressive critics?

Over at CounterPunch, a remnant of America’s left-wing, John Eskow tells us that he has walked among white supremacists “since I first learned to walk. They surrounded me in blue-collar Utica, New York—an early capitol of Rust Belt America, back in the 1950s.”

Here is Identity Politics’ association of the working class with White Supremacy. The all-powerful, all-threatening White Supremacists could do nothing to prevent—who?—from offshoring their jobs to Asia. But these people, who are so powerless that they could not even save their own jobs, are a great threat to us good people, who sat sucking our thumbs in unconcern while their economic lives were snuffed out. https://www.counterpunch.org/2

CounterPuncher John Wight, prior to affirming the dogma that from the very beginning America has been “synonymous with white supremacy,” first unleashes both barrels on the liberal/progressives: “Strident declamations against fascism in Charlottesville from those who supported fascists in Kiev, calls for action to be taken against extremists in America by those who’ve been supporting them in Syria. What is this if not rank hypocrisy?”

Ah, so, why did the liberal/progressives align with the military/security complex and the neoconservatives against Donald Trump who declared, to his undoing, his intention to normalize relations with Russia, thus removing the enemy needed to justify the $1 trillion annual budget of the military/security complex? These vast monies could have gone into health care for the unprovided, into public assistance for the unprovided, but the liberal/progressive/left would not have it. If the liberal/progressives are so against violence and hate, why do they support the hate campaign against Trump and Russia?

Has Identity Politics made the liberal/progressive/left deaf, dumb, and blind such that their reality is limited to the emotions that Identity Politics produces?

This is a valid question. It is not meant to be derogatory. It is meant to lead to an understanding of our plight as a country. How does a country in which blacks are taught to hate whites, women are taught to hate men, and whose history is explained as white oppression successfully deal with the defining issues of our time?

Indeed, such a country is incapable of even recognizing the real issues. It seems clear enough that our doom is certain.

Identity Politics has such a firm hold on universities, media, all sorts of subject areas in public schools such as black studies, women studies, race studies, native American studies, and in Democratic Party politics that reality is absent from the picture. Most of what is deplored by Identity Politics are simply products of history, not of the evil intentions of white males. It once was the case that the function of liberal progressivism was to reform what was inherited from the past and had been morally outgrown.

But this progressive agenda has been abandoned to hate that is just as wrong and deadly as the hate to which the liberal progressives object. So we are left with what: hate against hate. This is not promising.

We have to come back to the question, why is the liberal/progressive/left comfortable with being aligned with the warmonger neoconservatives and the military/security complex against President Donald Trump who intended, until he was blocked, to reduce the extremely dangerous to all of mankind tensions between the US and Russia created over 24 years by the Clinton, George W. Bush, and Obama regimes? If you are really against violence, why oppose the only president we have had since Reagan who wants to reduce the risk of nuclear conflict?

I have asked this question a number of times. I have never had an answer from the liberal/progressive/left.

Are we to conclude that they are unaware, lost as they are in their hatred of white, heterosexual males, that they don’t care, that they want Trump destroyed even it Pence, the replacement, leads us into unwinnable war with Russia and China?

Why do the environmental and wildlife preservation organizations jump on the anti-Trump bandwaggon. Are they unaware of the consequences to all life of nuclear war?

What explains the total unreality in which Americans exist? We are supposed to be the leaders of the world. How can we lead when we are so utterly, hopelessly blind and stupid and consumed by hate?

The Essential Saker II: Civilizational Choices and Geopolitics / The Russian challenge to the hegemony of the AngloZionist Empire

Leave a Reply

Leave a Reply

Click here to get more info on formatting

(1) Leave the name field empty if you want to post as Anonymous. It's preferable that you choose a name so it becomes clear who said what. E-mail address is not mandatory either. The website automatically checks for spam. Please refer to our moderation policies for more details. We check to make sure that no comment is mistakenly marked as spam. This takes time and effort, so please be patient until your comment appears. Thanks.

(2) 10 replies to a comment are the maximum.

(3) Here are formating examples which you can use in your writing:
<b>bold text</b> results in bold text
<i>italic text</i> results in italic text
(You can also combine two formating tags with each other, for example to get bold-italic text.)
<em>emphasized text</em> results in emphasized text
<strong>strong text</strong> results in strong text
<q>a quote text</q> results in a quote text (quotation marks are added automatically)
<cite>a phrase or a block of text that needs to be cited</cite> results in:a phrase or a block of text that needs to be cited
<blockquote>a heavier version of quoting a block of text...</blockquote> results in:

a heavier version of quoting a block of text that can span several lines. Use these possibilities appropriately. They are meant to help you create and follow the discussions in a better way. They can assist in grasping the content value of a comment more quickly.

and last but not least:
<a href=''http://link-address.com''>Name of your link</a> results in Name of your link

(4)No need to use this special character in between paragraphs:&nbsp;You do not need it anymore. Just write as you like and your paragraphs will be separated.The "Live Preview" appears automatically when you start typing below the text area and it will show you how your comment will look like before you send it.

(5) If you now think that this is too confusing then just ignore the code above and write as you like.

Comment

Name:

E-mail:

79 Comments

Charlottesville is Maidan 2 – the clear film below – of the ‘neo-nazis’ is identical to the brutes at Maidan – same tactics – I heard that the Israeli army was involved in the training of the thugs at Maidan – and it is the same guys in Charlottesville – see this https://www.facebook.com/democracynow/videos/10155598308598279/

if you’re not on FB then watch this -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4i61_12SGY the above is taken from this longer video

Please note that the scene of the White Supremacists running forward to beat one of the non-violent protesters -is identical to Maidan – watch the first 5 minutes of this video – https://youtu.be/J7OrXHEpSO0

this immediately above video – wait for the first minute the music starts – you see the tactics of the thugs in Ukraine – SAME TACTICS EXACTLY as Charlottesville

Trump’s supporters belong to the Right – there’s no doubt – guns et al – but the thugs that were violent were paid George Soros scum – – trained by Israeli army – IDF – maybe even some of the same guys that were at Maidan – I bet at least some of them have accents –

yeah, PCR is right – Abby Martin is against Trump – Democracy Now is against Trump – don’t they see that if Trump is ousted it will be chaos – that Trump is the only thing holding back WW3 ? Why doesn’t Abby Martin see this ?

Well Michael Moore in an interview has explained that we white people that supported Trump are all racist. But he did explain how we can “redeem” ourselves from that sin. Just accept the “obvious” truth that by being white we are guilty of racism. All we need to do is “accept our white guilt”, throw over any feelings for our people,and our families from the past.And we can be redeemed from the sin of being white. In the racially diverse society today that “of course” knows the color of our skin “must” determine the content of our character.﻿ If only those pesky Russians in Donbass had understood that so easily. They could have just denied their Russianess. And then been accepted as redeemed in the “new Ukraine”.

All white men are guilty. They are all racist, sexist and homophobic, and of course deplorable. The answer is to tear down all statues to DWEMs, dead white European males. Start with the Confederate generals, of course, but extend this as soon as possible to all white males, whether it’s the slave owners like Washington, Jefferson, Madison and all the others, or presidents like Andrew Jackson and all the others involved in ethnic cleansing the Redskins. And don’t leave out people like Kennedy, who was more than a little bit sexist. Start thinking about a new name for the Kennedy Space Centre. Get those statues torn down NOW! Get those heads off Mount Rushmore!

Then we can get round to renaming streets, parks, towns, cities and states. Washington DC has got to go. Maybe we could rename it Thirty Shekel City or Jay Z City. We need a new name for Washington State. Maybe we could organise a competition to rename it. Likewise we’ll have to get all those DWEMs off the banknotes. Perhaps we could have Beyoncé on the dollar bill. We really need a committee or a government department to come up with an approved list of preferably black and gay, non-racist, non-sexist, non-homophobic people we can raise statues to, name things after, and put on the currency.

Wasn’t it the American white male working class that got Trump elected on a MAGA, America first, Antiwar platform? That’s why they have been “chosen”, actually targeted, to be dealt with by the deep state, just like any ethnic group, any country, any political leader that dares to stand up to their global hegemony.

Zerohedge has a short article on an effort to recruit paid protesters for $25/hour. Ad was placed on Craig’s List about a week before the Charlottesville kabuki. If true, soros and his money at work in “defending democracy.”

Notice that one of the “rioters” started smacking the car with a bat or flag, resulting the driver to go into panic out of fear of getting dragged out or getting the window broken and beaten to death. There is also a black man mentioned hitting the back of the car with a bat before the second striker, not seen on the video but impact sound heard. After that was when he floored it. Car wasn’t speeding and break lights active beforehand.

It appears he isn’t the only one. Here is a case from the UK. After a rash of 17 men being jailed for child rape in Newcastle.most of them being from South Asian or Middle Eastern backgrounds. A Labor party, shadow government minister, said that Britain had a problem with Pakistani men raping white girls. And it needed to be studied to see how to stop that. But for that crime of “truth-telling” she was forced to resign. In today’s PC West the truth is never a defense against “liberal ideology”. So it is considered in Britain that child rape by Asian men isn’t the problem. But admitting it is the problem.I don’t think I want a President ,or like in Britain a minister. That is afraid to tell the truth. For fear of losing public opinion. That is the same as condoning crime. And we have far too many of those people in power already.

Sydney had that problem with Muslims raping the local girls. The police rounded them up, but in court they were laughing and and carrying on stupid. The judge then gave them each 50 years jail and that wiped the smile off their faces.
I guess each country deals with things as they can, but Sydney doesnt have that problem anymore.

Bullshot- if you weren’t so (purposely) naive, you’d understand the infamous “when did you stop beating your wife?” ploy.

‘neo-nazis’ and ‘southern racists’ have been gathering and marching peacefully and irrelevently since the 1980s onwards. The overt racist far-right movements of the USA had been fully neutered when the civil rights project had finally completely (very long overdue) in the late 1970s.

The current project to wind up some people by removing long standing monuments in the American South is a standard psy-op, like the removal of pro-soviet monuments in former (now NATO) satellite states in E Europre (and no, i’m not making a moral equivalence of the figures behind both sets of monuments). The Deep State doesn’t care about the historic people/forces behind the monuments- simply what removing them today will trigger.

Anything Trump would and could have said about the events triggered by the very public erasing of Southern History would have been turned against him. The zionist press had already described the racist protestors as the ‘alt-Right’- a basket term including all Trump supporters and voters. So if Trump had singled out the protestors for specific attack, the zionist press would automatically demand Trump expanded the dondemnation to include all Trump supporters- its the oldest trick in the book.

Trump was damned if he did and damned if he didn’t. It is commonly said that the zionist screams “ouch” while stamping on your head to imply they are the one suffering damage.

The aftermath of Charlottesville is the death of free speech in the USA, as the USA now adopts the European definition- ie., you are free to say those thing the Deep State defines as ‘good and proper’ only. Trump was attemprting to protect one of the rare good gifts of the USA- a true concept of what free speech really means- and saying that peaceful people should be allowed to say whatever they want.

Your right of ***true*** free speech does not mean I have to agree with you- and very few (thankfully) agree with the classic neo-nazis of America- which is why they are (today) harmless. The violence was orchestrated by the Deep State (which critics of Trump over this particular issue clearly support). And the violence was always intended to trap Trump.

Those attacking Trump today (on so many forums including this one) magically forget the Congress bloc vote that, Soviet style, saw almost 100% of all US politicians authorise the sanctions against Russia, Iran and N Korea- and conflated all three. Trump already stands alone with the catspaws of the Deep State- and that is hardly Trump’s fault, no matter how hard agents of the Deep State try to sell that lie here and in other forums.

Trump condemned all those who used the excuse of ***peaceful*** expression of free speech to engage in violence- and that is the only way a US president can protect the constitution.

True people on our side are now ***correctly*** demanding that if confederate statues are to be pulled down for reaosns of PC, so must the monuments to most of the ‘beloved’ ‘founding fathers’ because they were pro-slavery, slave holders, and raped slaves including children- and all this is 100% historic fact. If Trump can be subject to “when did you stop beating your wife”, so can the neo-liberals and neo-cons.

Politics is a dirty, dirty business, and no-ones hands are clean. In the USA, most monuments are to very flawed people indeed- most of whom personally carried out pretty terrible crimes. Trump instinctively gets this, since as a business person everyone was equal (as a money making opportunity) to him. Trump was actually very PC in his buisness dealings.

As a beseiged president, who denied the mass murdering war criminal, Clinton, her annointed position, he cannot win internally no matter what he does and says. And the Deep State will continue to dig out massive holes in every path before Trump, so if he doesn’t fall in one he’s sure to fall in another.

But Trump can win the ***covert*** support of many Americans (who cannot speak out in public) if he clearly defends the values the USA is supposed to stand for. Defending the right to (peaceful) free speech by the horrid is always painful- but every good smart person will do it. And the free speech we don’t like is a good ‘barometer’ indication of the true state of our society, and helps guide us to what needs to be done for real social justice.

In the meantime expect Trump (when sometimes doing the right thing) to be attacked by all possible pseudo-arguments in places like this- showing us how deep the pockets of the Deep State run.

Excellent post, Twilight.
I think you put things well.
And I think your advice to Trump—say ther ight thing, that is, stick to the rights that are constitutionally guaranteed to all—is solid
Bear in mind that the ACLU, the “progressive” NGO par excellence, came to the defens of the United group to have their rally in C’ville, even though, obviously, the ACLU is not a racist org. The ACLU also came defended the right of Nazis to march in Skokie, Illinois, in 1978.https://www.aclu.org/other/aclu-history-taking-stand-free-speech-skokie
The rallying cry was “Freedom of speech for the speech we hate.”

I have been a bit negative on the ACLU lately because of their recent identity politics cast, but I continue to support them with a monthly donation. I think their defense of Untied’s right to rally is very important because the ACLU is a “benchmark” organization of the (real, progressive) left.

THis might be a time for Trump to develop a formula and just stick to it.
Such as “I am pledged to uphold teh Constitution and its guarantees of free speech for all.”
He could even allude to the ACLU himself. That would shut up some of the left-wing provocateurs.

Trump could have done exactly that ….. and this modern media would still have found a way to attack him. They’d twist his words however they needed to in order to do so.

One thing I learned from particiapating in politics from the left in an age where the right and the media would always attack such positions …. they will attack no matter what you do and no matter what you say. They’ll lie to attack you. They’ll twist words and take statements or even fragments of statements out of context to attack you.

The one smart thing that Trump does is that he just comes out and says what he’s thinking. So, yes, the “presstitudes’ (to use Mr. Roberts’ term) will attack him. But they attack Trump every day and twice on Sundays, so what else is new?

Its better to say what you mean, than to get into a lying contest with professional liars who buy ink by the barrel.

@James – that’s just wrong, plain wrong.
that’s how we got here, I mean the hole world not just US.
That’s siding with the PC and the whole lib bs.
That man was wrong, and he said that.
But the whole thing was a setup, and I’ve seen things like that many times (from close personal experience from my part of the world) and others have mentioned other examples like Ukraine etc.
Once you do down that path it gets harder and harder to tell or discern the truth, and the other side (make no mistake) will be pressing for it.
Trump was wrong on many accounts by doing just that, not calling things by their name, not going after people he should have.

The answer is quite simple.
I gave it in comment of your last article repost here.
The progressive left has civilizational and messianic views.
That is quasi religious thinking that they deem they need to impose everywhere.
It is a vivid ideology. As such it is agressive. And all means are used to this effect. Good needs to win over Evil.

It is witch hunting.
It is inquisition.
It is clash of civilization.

Mr Roberts, you should comprehend that in the eye of the so called progressive left, Trump or yourself are no better than Putin or the “uncivilized

These protesters or neither “progressive” or “left”, even though they will at times claim both titles.

If you want to hear a true “progressive” speak, look up Sen. Paul Wellstone and some of his speaches back before he was murdered.

Its easy to get confused, as the true progressive left has pretty much been eliminated from American politics, and its clearly banned on all American media. But its helpful to keep in mind that today’s “progressive left” believes in violence and war and having the bankers run society, or at least the part the generals don’t run …. none of which were ever the stances of the true progressive left.

We are arguing over the rights and wrongs of an event that didn’t happen. No one killed, no riot fights, completely staged and yet we argue over “antifa” vs “white supremists”. Because of their ability to make us fight over which is better the easter bunny or the tooth fairy, this GOV psyop is a success beyond measure.

What the liberal/progressive/left is trying to do with Charlottesville is to associate Trump supporters with White Supremacists and in this way demonize Trump supporters so that they will not have a voice when Trump is overthrown in a coup.

Nonsense.

By one account ‘tourists’ and media outnumbered ‘protestors’ 3 to one, in a 100% staged psyop event where both sides, Zionist KKK vs Zionist Soros colour revolutionaries, are directly by Zionist intelligence.

And sure enough Trump followed the script, playing the divide and rule game to the best of his ability whilst decrying the lying media but failing to mention the event was entirely manufactured, and doing his best to set the conditions for his staged managed removal from office, something he is undoubtedly looking forward to as much as anyone else.

This is a psyop, obviously.

Oh and guess which supposedly Russian government media outlet provded live covergae of this ‘event,’ blow by blow, lol. If you guessed Tavistock Rossiya Segodniya score 500 points. Seems the media was there before most of the protestors.

I don’t think anyone believes any of it anymore, although it’s useful to have false prophets reveal themselves by attempting to support this disasterously conceived manipulation. I have conversations with normal people every day and almost everyone with half a brain knows this is theatre.

A key bit of the ‘stage management’ was the Democratic Governor and the Democratic Mayor combining to tell the police to ‘stand down’.

What would happen was very predictable. I saw a similar event in Atlanta before the DNC in 1988, For decades now, a KKK or similar march would always draw a large group of counter-protestors expliciting stating the aim of ‘shutting down’ the other event.

So, when the governor decided that neither the State Patrol nor the National Guard would try to keep order during this day, and when the Mayor decided that the city police would not try to keep order on this day, some sort of violent confrontation was inevitable. Its happened before. There’s a long record of similar right-wing events requiring massive amounts of police protection.

Thus, its a logical conclusion that the Democrats in charge wanted the violent confrontation that just occured. And their media allies seem well preparted to exploit this, almost like the scripts were written in advance.

“The dispute drew national attention. After the march was initially cancelled, the ACLU took up the case at the urging of Jewish lawyer Joseph Burton, who defended the NSPA’s right to freedom of speech and assembly. Victor Rosenblum, a professor of law at Northwestern University and past chairman of the Anti-Defamation League’s Chicago branch, made the counter-argument: “The Nazis’ march in paraphernalia is a reminder of the most destructive movement in history. They stand for the destruction and wiping out of human beings. This is not constitutionally protected.””

IMHO, one critical element of the reconquista (taking back the country from the snowflakes and the deep state) is going to be to _demand_ the right of free association. Free association means that we get to chose who we will deal with, as well as who we will exclude. All choice of people we ever make is “discriminatory” in some way. So what. Live with it.

This attitude will of course enrage the snowPeople. But we’ll just have to embrace being called “racist”, “sexist”, or whatever. They have learned that we will run and quiver in fear if they call us scary names. I say the days of running and retreat are over. Not another step back. When the Trump supporters were tarred as “deplorable” they embraced the tag. When the nasty women were identified… they got nastier. And when we have snarl words thrown at us, we must learn how to just laugh it off.

Apart from the ‘gods’ applying the crazy juice to a failing empire, the one uniting factor to all this msm ‘noise’ since the election is the lack of H&B Clinton.

Nothing has a shorter media cycle life than -ve news on Saudi Arabia; Tony Blair or Hillary Clinton —
and the crimes and national security lapses of the latter would have anyone else in the cooler forthwith. It must be costing a fortune but it seems to be working.

I certainly agree that the left in the US has not condemned the use of nazis and fascists by the deep state in Ukraine. The left in the US still supports the colonialist agenda of the “America uber allies.” Counterpunch is an exception to this, though. They do chronicle the role of right wing terrorists in the US government’s destabilization of any country that refuses to bend their the demands.

Mr. Roberts reveals himself to be overly sensitive to any discussion about the actions of the alt-right and their allies, the KKK.

I agree with the Saker’s analysis of the world situation, and I disagree with Mr. Robert’s characterization of what occurred in Charlottesville.

There is a word that is being used more and more in the various writings about this riot. It is a word that seems to me to be horribly dangerous. It is Moral Equivalence, i.e., by some moral standard someone somewhere has to decide whether one atrocity is morally more repugnant than another atrocity. To my mind, it is something that can be used to explain away shooting nuclear bombs at others. It is a word underneath which a whole lot of darkness masked as righteousness can be hidden, and a whole lot of manipulation of groups can be justified.

Somehow this riot in Charlottesville looks like a straw that may have broken a camel’s back, whether it was a type of setup or false flag or psyops or not. I’m watching the commentary from outside the US and note these four things:

– The US State Dept writes a ‘freedom of religion’ report for the world every now and again. This year this report came out at the same time of this happening in Charlottesville and it was as usual very critical of the Chinese. Well, the Chinese turned around and said .. So What! Go and fix your own country before talking about ours – It was a direct message and not hidden under diplomatic speak.

– Then the old ‘axis of evil’ friend, Iran made some comment in the same vein. US, fix your own stuff before messing with us.

– More comments are rolling in from around the world. I think this may be the first time in my life that I saw the UN ‘condemning’ something out of the US. This is from a UN update email that I get: “UN chief condemns violent racism in US Violent racism, xenophobia, anti-Semitism and Islamophobia have no place in society and the world must stand up against demonstrations like the one that left a woman dead in Charlottesville, Va., over the weekend, says United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres. “We must stand up against them. Every time. Everywhere,” he said in a post on Twitter.”

– And while I was writing, Bolivia has just said this after the Trump threats to militarily intervene in Venezuela: “The hegemony of the Western world and the [US] empire has come to an end. Today, a new multipolar world order emerges, in which all peoples can choose their own way, establish their own democracy in a completely different format, trying to build a balanced relationship with other countries, instead of the hegemony sought by the United States.”
The Mercosur, which is the South American trade bloc, have condemned Trumps threat to intervene in Venezuela.

I don’t know how much this Charlottesville riot will change things internal to the US. But external to the US it may be that this happening changed the ‘Moral Equivalence’ ratio very seriously. The US may have just lost its voice and its ability to act, valid or not, as main exporter of democracy and supposed good values. It is as if it is now clear that the emperor has no clothes.

” don’t know how much this Charlottesville riot will change things internal to the US. But external to the US it may be that this happening changed the ‘Moral Equivalence’ ratio very seriously. The US may have just lost its voice and its ability to act, valid or not, as main exporter of democracy and supposed good values. It is as if it is now clear that the emperor has no clothes.”

The usa faced a similar rebellion of the outside world against american bigotry and racism at home and war mongering abroad in the late 1960s and early 1970s. This was in response to u.s. regime attacks on the civil rights movement and the u.s. colonial war of aggression against Vietnam and much of SE Asia.

It was foreign revulsion to american apartheid at home and the wars abroad that was one of the major factors which caused the western oligarchs to rein in american extremism for awhile to cool down the developing resistance to their hegemony both abroad and at home.

Yes.
When the world saw film of protesters in the south being taunted, attacked, sprayed by police with water cannons etc.—especially black students trying to enter schools and universities and the faces of white segragationists twisted with hate for these dignified individuals—it was a PR disaster. And JFK saw that it was a PR disaster. And that was when he decided that his administration had to take a stand on civil rights for African Americans.

Of course the Selma march and other protests such as in St. Augustine were actions designed to have a political impact, so in a sense they could be called political theater. But one difference between then and now seems to be that the organizers then were who they said they were, and their aims were waht they said they were. Martin Luther King was a master strategist, and he chose his battles–his productions–well. For example, the back story on St. Augustine is that at first King didn’t want the locals to continue with their protest against various forms of segregation in St. Augustine because King wanted to concentrate on the struggle going on elsewhere in the South, a different city (can’t recall which). But the locals would not shut up, and eventually King realized that he had to get out ahead of the situation in St. A. He could not ignore it and concentrate on something else. And events in St. Augustine actually led almost directly to actual passage of the Civil Rights Act. I heard this in a lecture given by Andrew Young, in St. Augustine, during Black History month in 2010.

Now it seems like no one really knows who is behind a lot of the political street theater, nor what their aims actually are and where this is going.

I remember those hate filled images from that time,it was a shameful thing. The “irony” is that I see the same hate filled face looks on the Antifa protesters fighting in Virginia. Only no one seems to notice that today.It makes me wonder if that look comes from both occasions those people thinking they “must be the right side”.

As they were marching, the ‘white supremists’ were chanting, “jews will not supress us,” Last I looked, jews, the zio ones, are white, so not sure where the white supremacy comes from, no mention or chants about blacks, reds, yellows, or browns, just jews. Hmmmmm………antizio protesters?

Sorry Paul and Saker, but you’re all off point on this one. This was a Nazi rally that Trump attempted to mitigate. That’s a pogrom of human genocide. Not a rejection of identity politics. And Nazism is not only despised by Liberals, either. Both of you have written extensively about the depredations of the modern Nazis so it is near mind boggling to see you both overlook this little detail.

At least they have a point. I’m still trying to make sense of your collection of word salad and non-sequiturs. Do you know what the word pogrom means? Because a rally and a pogrom are worlds apart in meaning. Same goes with genocide.

So your entire paragraph can be broken down to this: “Paul and Saker are off point on this because a basketball is orange and a vest has no sleeves. And I’m disappointed in you both.”

“What is the character of racist right-wing politics today? Is it the crazed white supremacist who plows into an anti-fascist demonstration in Charlottesville, Virginia, or can it also be the assurance by Lindsay Graham that an attack against North Korea would result in thousands of lives lost…. but those lives will be “over there”?

What about the recent unanimous resolution by both Houses of Congress in support of Israel and criticism of the United Nations for its alleged anti-Israeli bias? Would that qualify as racist and right-wing, since it appears that the ongoing suffering of the Palestinians is of no concern? And what about the vote by the U.S. House of Representatives to go even beyond the obscene proposal of the Trump administration to increase the military budget by $54 billion dollars and instead add a whopping $74 billion to the Pentagon budget?

What I find interesting about the current discussion around what many are referring to as the emboldening of the radical white supremacist right is how easy it is to mobilize opposition against the crude and overt white supremacists we saw in Charlottesville. So easy, in fact, that it’s really a distraction from the more difficult and dangerous work that needs to be done to confront the real right-wing power brokers.

The white supremacy that some of us see as more insidious is not reflected in the simple, stereotypical images of the angry, Nazi-saluting alt-righter or even Donald Trump. Instead, it is the normalized and thus invisible white supremacist ideology inculcated into cultural and educational institutions and the policies that stem from those ideas. That process doesn’t just produce the storm troopers of the armed and crazed radical right but also such covert true believers as Robert Ruben from Goldman Sachs, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Tony Blair and Nancy Pelosi — “decent” individuals who have never questioned for a moment the superiority of Western civilization, who believe completely in the White West’s right and responsibility to determine which nations should have sovereignty and who should be the leaders of “lesser” nations. And who believe that there is no alternative to the wonders of global capitalism even if it means that billions of human beings are consigned permanently to what Fanon called the “zone of non-being.”

“The political impact of the right gaining power in Ukraine could not be isolated from the growing power of the right elsewhere.”

This is the white supremacy that I am concerned with. And while I recognize the danger of the violent right-wing movement, I am more concerned with the right-wing policies that are being enacted into law and policy by both Democrats and Republicans at every level of government.”

This preoccupation with defending the poor, helpless white male, as expressed by PCR, and many of the right, actually obfuscates the issues of who is in power in the west. It is a misdirection which both is designed to and effectively causes people to chase after irrational, little mattering goals and to divide and face off against each other, rather than square off together against our common oppressor.

Paul Craig Roberts writes,
“I have asked this question a number of times. I have never had an answer from the liberal/progressive/left.

Are we to conclude that they are unaware, lost as they are in their hatred of white, heterosexual males, that they don’t care, that they want Trump destroyed even it Pence, the replacement, leads us into unwinnable war with Russia and China?

Why do the environmental and wildlife preservation organizations jump on the anti-Trump bandwaggon. Are they unaware of the consequences to all life of nuclear war?

What explains the total unreality in which Americans exist? We are supposed to be the leaders of the world. How can we lead when we are so utterly, hopelessly blind and stupid and consumed by hate?”

The answer I think is that they, the mindless,liberal left, does not see the bigger picture and if they can win this battle for the soul, then all of America will be safe. Keep in mind that liberals generally equate with non-technical white collar workers who do not understand science or technology, and conservatives generally equate with engineers and blue collar workers who understand the limits of forces, energy and matter.

For me, the real question is why so much anti-Trump now? I concur that this is a coup d’ etat, but the question of timing concerns me. Unless it has been discovered that the WAIS is about to slide into the ocean or the Gwahar oil field is going to collapse tomorrow, either event is cataclysmic and would end Western civilization, the something else has George Sauron worried. I think it is the impending massive victory in Syria.

As soon as the eastern countryside can be rolled up, there will be political resolutions in the de-escalation zones, SDF will see the light, and something funny is going to happen in Hatay (just guessing). But then, something not alt all funny is going to happen in the Golan.

I think George Sauron and the Neo-con/libs see the end of their dream of Ersatz Israel, and I think the MIC sees the end of their dream of world wide war, as when the civilized world (Eurasia) is too busy in commerce, no one will care much about the western/southern hemispheres.

I see Charlottesville as a massively desperate grasp at power. If Trump simply refuses to fold, just as Putin and Assad refuse to fold, then we need to find cover, for the armies of Mordor will not go quietly.

I’m shocked that the US corporate-military media is taking something that Trump said and using it to attack Trump. Shocked. Trump could read an Obama statement word for word, and he’d still get attacked over it. The corporate-military media is so anti-Trump that they’ll attack him for anything. CNN has admitted they think they get ratings and therefore money for doing this.

Even worse, Trump told the truth.

“In a time of universal deceit – telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” – George Orwell.

Today’s lefty protesters have little or nothing to do with the peaceful, non-violent protesters of the past. In his day, Dr. King struggled to have a non-violent movement against the radicals who wanted violence as the answer. Today, Malcom X is far more likely to be quoted by lefty protesters and if you mention King to them you get scorn and derision as a reply. The left has abandoned its non-violent protest ideas, just like they’ve abandoned any support for working people.

These protesters talk openly about using violence to ‘shut down’ speach of which they don’t approve. Movements from the right and the left have in the past used these tactics. Fascism in Europe was one such group, but they weren’t the first and obviously weren’t the last to try to shut down any opposing speach with violence and threats of violence.

I grew up in the racist South, and I used to be a left-wing protester back around the turn of the century when the big anti-war and anti-globilization protests were taking place. So, I feel I’m at least somewhat familiar with both sides of this fight. Neither is correct. Both like to use violence to force submission to their views. Trump was correct to say that ‘both sides’ contributed to the violence last weekend.

But in this age where the corporate-military media wants to force certain deciets upon the world, the most horrible thing a person can do is to tell the truth. Especially a person who doesn’t seem to be in favor of nuking the whole world and who thus has already been declared evil.

“We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false”?” – CIA Director William Casey.

Mr. Roberts of course knows who Mr. Casey is, as they served together in the Reagan administration. And in many ways it was the Reagan Administration that is the answer to Mr. Roberts question. Not only did they serve up a big dose of misinformation, but they also changed the law of the USA to allow the giant media conglomorations that now control almost everything that people see, hear or read. The buzzword under which the Reaganites pushed that change was ‘deregulation’. But the actual result has been the creations of these giant media firms that lie to us every day. Thank you Ronnie Raygun!

Before Mr. Roberts, Mr. Casey and Mr. Reagan got to DC, there were ownership limits that kept companies from owning more than a handful of media outlets. Today only a small handful of companies control everything. And before Reagan, the FCC used to enforce an “equal time rule” that guranteed that opposing viewpoints got on the air. Today, its pro-war and pro-banker 100% of the time.

Day 6 of Operation To Kill a Mockingbird. ( i.e. the poor white trash did it and it is all Trump’s fault)

1.Pence is calling off his trip abroad because of this corporate media sponsored feeding frenzy around Trump.

2.The organizers of #FreespeechGoogle demonstrations which were due to occur around the country on the 19th have cancelled them due to the “atmosphere” and the unfortunate “timing” . Alex Jones says that they need to organize the demonstrations to be safe and to keep the message clear–both good points.

A note on culture: Michael Moore called Trump supporters “rapists”?
Whaaa? It did occur to me that when I grew up in the 1950’s and 1960’s Mark Twain’s Huckleberry Finn was required reading in school and not for its political message but for its depiction of childhood and the coming of age of 3 different boys who are friends.
For the Michael Moore generation the mandatory reading was “To Kill a Mockingbird” in which the “good” whites stand against the “rapist, bigoted” criminal bad whites. It is the imagery in the book and movie that the staging experts of the CIA-CNN et al use to manipulate the emotional prejudices and subconscious role playing of a whole generation.

Thus the “deplorables II” cant that is being bandied about by extremely irritating self righteous hypocrites. It is the only way I can understand what the extremely manipulative untrue statements are about when
1. the issue is free speech
2. the issue is use of the police to protect it
3. the issue is the legitimizing of the use of political violence–a dangerous, slippery slope but one appropriate to a pre-physical coup situation.

This video shows the origins of the violence at Charlottesville. Loads of Antifas (a perfect example of propagandistic framing – anything they oppose must be fascist, right!?) were brandishing clubs at their opponents. One Antifa struck someone with a club, and someone maced/peppered sprayed him i return. Others rushed to the scene, but the stage was set for framing it as an unprovoked anti-Antifa attack. The Antifas were also sporting Otpor clenched fist flags seen on every Soros funded regime change operation.

Antifa tearing down statues of political figures they oppose is really ironic. The other contemporary groups doing that are the hardcore Neo-Nazis in Ukraine – when they aren’t busy murdering women and children. And both are funded by Jewish oliogarchs.

“CounterPuncher John Wight, prior to affirming the dogma that from the very beginning America has been ‘synonymous with white supremacy’ first unleashes both barrels on the liberal/progressives: ‘Strident declamations against fascism in Charlottesville from those who supported fascists in Kiev, calls for action to be taken against extremists in America by those who’ve been supporting them in Syria. What is this if not rank hypocrisy?’ “

The above is a hard-hitting, highly perceptive conclusion; hats off. The US emerged as a God-awful, genocidal Euro-squatter project fuelled by land-grabbing, environmental destruction, slave labour, and institutionalised racism. This is the rock-solid fundament of US White supremacists and, more generally, of Western supremacists.

Liberals and Cultural Marxists (with Soros as their current undisputed Godfather) understand the need for imperialist rape abroad to preserve “Western Democracy” at home. This is their main reason for sucking up to neocon foreign policy and Zionism. But this is becoming ever more futile since Soros has made up his mind: The US Exceptionals and Indispensables are a basket of deplorables (takes one to know one, eh?) and the same judgment applies to Europe as well. In the past, imperialist war-mongering against non-Western countries and peoples was fine as the spoils of Empire were subjected to egalitarian distribution at home. Now, Soros is promoting ‘open borders’, the most significant — and, yes, entirely deliberate — consequence of which is tidal waves of immigration of people from places ravaged by imperialism right into its very heartlands.

Charlottesville stands out as an expression of mutual disgust inside a dying, self-worshipping nation. Serves it right.

I don’t get it: There’s fantastic people like this girl on youtube, giving us fact-based common sense commentary, and yet the the mainstream media insists on force-feeding us fake news from the likes of the wooden, overbearing, horse-faced Christiane Amanpour, no less. (Who is earning millions btw)… C’est le monde a l’envers!

Today a North-African plowed down pedestrians with a van in Barcelona.
There are -uptil now- at least 13 people dead.

I am very curious how authorities and the public voice will comment on this.

I will not be surprised that the usual ‘it has nothing to do with islam’, ‘we must be standing together’ and all kinds of other BS will be poured out over us. Compare that to Charlottesville.

There are unconfirmed rumours in Germany, feeded by an official who talked too much on a beer festival, that as of coming September there will be a tsunami of attacks. Add to that, that on almost any raid on mosques by the German police they have found shitloads of weapons. Many mosques are sponsored by Saudi-Arabia to pour out the poisonous wahhabi ideology. Add to that, Germany has about 200000 homeless people. The country does nothing for them, but hugs every immigrant without identity papers (but with the latest smartphone) and takes care of them. Millions of them, and about 90% will stay on welfare their whole life.

Grammar school in Germany starts at the age of 6. 40% of the children coming to grammar school in Nordrhein-Westfalen speak no German. They grow up in parallel societies.
What to do about that?

Slogans.

I heard some time ago Horst Seehofer, the chairman of the very conservative CSU from Bayern (Bavaria) yell that ‘at home also German should be spoken!’. The crowd cheered. I laughed out loud, thinking ‘in Bayern, that is an issue anyway’. Hint: in Bayern a dialect is spoken, that is almost non-understandable for regular Germans.

But hey, what can you expect from a former DDR communist propaganda official, an infertile woman who is on the payroll of George Soros? History will judge her very harshly, but now she just doesn’t care sh*t. She charishes her beloved poisonous money.

PS:
I am not judging islam, far from it. I know many muslims who are very generous, wise and symphatic. I condemn the extremist variant of it, call it salafist, takfiri or wahhabi. People who think they will become a ‘martyr’ through killing innocent people. At the concept of ‘martyr’ I’m thinking first of someone in battle.
Someone who is killing innocent people deserves no better that at last a goat is waiting for him, with the beautiful name ’72 virgins’.

Poland is -on the average- very conservative and traditional. They resist firmly the orders from Brussels to take up immigrants (together with Tchechia, Slovakia, and Hungary – the so called Visegrad nations).

About Ukraine I’m less certain, but from the few people from Ukraine that I’ve met I got the impression that they are even more conservative and traditional than in Poland.
I met a woman who fled Ukraine. She is jewish, and feared for her life. You know, being jewish doesn’t mean you are a zionist. She is definitely not, but tell that to your attackers.

You are correct as to the prevalent popular mood in Poland and Ukraine, but Germany could easily coerce these de facto colonies if there was a will among Germany’s ruling circles to do that. Of course, being itself a subjugated country, Germany would never do anything like tearing apart the EU by serious religious strife.

I am not defending the right-wing people as innocent, they are not. But leaving them as the only bad people is raping the truth.

In Germany the Antifa movement is insane. It is well-known that they are protected by the politicians.

Some time ago, I saw via a livestream a demonstration of PEGIDA in Dresden. PEGIDA means ‘patriottische Europaeer gegen islamisierung des Abendlandes’, somewhat translated ‘patriottic europeans agains islamisation of our homeland’.
They are completely demonised by the government and put aside as ‘nazi’s’.
But what did I see? Just uneasy civilians, very peacefully, questioning the insane open door politics of Merkel, walking with banners with texts like ‘tolerance and respect, please also for us’.
Who would disagree with something like that?

Well, Antifa did. They were there on the sidelines, shielded off by the police, shouting, yelling, and throwing things in utter hatred. I just felt utter hate. Because an opnion was expressed that wasn’t theirs. Isn’t that not very much different than what the SS stormtroopers did in the thirties of the last century?

Winston Churchill once said wisely ‘the next fascists will be the anti-fascists’.

“What the liberal/progressive/LEFT is trying to do with Charlottesville is to associate Trump supporters with White Supremacists and in this way demonize Trump supporters so that they will not have a voice when Trump is overthrown in a coup.”

I don’t think that Roberts understands that the true left gets it. Trump represents and will do the bidding, despite campaign rhetoric, of the neo-liberal Wall Street cronies. The true left understands that the neo-cons are the imperialist arm of the same Wall Street cadre that wants its NWO. The Democratic Party left have been hoodwinked into thinking that Trump represents an advance guard of ultra right wing oppression when in fact he is just another President that must follow orders from those whose sole ideology is simple more of everything for themselves. This is where Trump continually messes up with the Continuity of Imperial Agenda people by re signaling his swamp draining – detente building campaign rhetoric and flummoxing his supporters by not getting on with the job he said, and perhaps before the facts of life hit, had intention of doing.

The whole thing in Charlottesville stinks of the event planning in politics that FDR stated for the record. Two birds or more with one stone. Trump advisably walks into the trap mouth flapping while protest is given the evil eye by the authorities using the excuse that the people cannot simply handle this privilege without breaking societal peace bonds and of course the continued divide and conquer and keep the populous distracted along the instigated racial fault line that runs through America. The old caveat of follow the money and who benefits still applying.

Sitemap

Saker Android App

An Android App has been developed by one of our supporters. It is available for download and install by clicking on the Google Play Store Badge above.

All the original content published on this blog is licensed by Saker Analytics, LLC under the Creative Commons CC-BY-SA 4.0 International license (creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0). For permission to re-publish or otherwise use non-original or non-licensed content, please consult the respective source of the content.