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It has been quiet for some time. I'm guessing they are working on some bigger expansion pack type DLC.

An "expansion pack" can be "DLC". Not sure why people think these are mutually exclusive. DLC is a distribution model, not a content model.

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That's true, but if they were to do something like say, change the way City States behave, or add espionage or religion, it could be DLC, but it would probably cost more than a couple of wonders. Whether they call it DLC or an expansion pack is largely semantics; probably better for them to call it an expansion pack to placate the DLC haters, and of course to better charge more money for it.

That's true, but if they were to do something like say, change the way City States behave, or add espionage or religion, it could be DLC, but it would probably cost more than a couple of wonders. Whether they call it DLC or an expansion pack is largely semantics; probably better for them to call it an expansion pack to placate the DLC haters, and of course to better charge more money for it.

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That's the thing. There's:

-Content
-Price
-Distribution

These are not linked in any way. DLC does not set content or price. DLC is a method of distribution.

There's no reason we couldn't see a "traditional" expansion pack with Civs and game features available for download for a similar price. Of course, the similar price probably won't happen, and we don't know if new civs will stay separate from a new "expansion" or not (I bet they will).

My hope is they are working on a big patch and some "expansion pack" game features as well.

It has been quiet for some time. I'm guessing they are working on some bigger expansion pack type DLC.

An "expansion pack" can be "DLC". Not sure why people think these are mutually exclusive. DLC is a distribution model, not a content model.

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Yes and no. DLC is by definition "downloadable content." An expansion may be distributed digitally but usually also gets a stand-alone retail release. Secondly, DLC is content added to the base game, whereas an expansion is a completely separate base game (in the case of Civ IV, this primarily meant a new dll) that happens to require the previous base, to which further content could also be added. So an expansion and vanilla would require separate patches whereas all changes to dlc usually just get included in the vanilla patch.

So while you might argue the semantics of that fact that because an expansion could be distributed digitally, it's still not really correct to call it DLC. Along this, DLC and Expansions have very distinct meanings in terms of what people expect. I mean you could call all the DLC that's been released "expansions" as they've expanded the base game. Would I seriously say that Civ V has had 9 Expansions already? No. If you want to use the distribution definition as the sole criteria for defining DLC then you can call Civ V itself DLC as it was content you downloaded (regardless of if you got it retail cause you needed Steam).

Yes and no. DLC is by definition "downloadable content." An expansion may be distributed digitally but usually also gets a stand-alone retail release. Secondly, DLC is content added to the base game, whereas an expansion is a completely separate base game (in the case of Civ IV, this primarily meant a new dll) that happens to require the previous base, to which further content could also be added. So an expansion and vanilla would require separate patches whereas all changes to dlc usually just get included in the vanilla patch.

So while you might argue the semantics of that fact that because an expansion could be distributed digitally, it's still not really correct to call it DLC. Along this, DLC and Expansions have very distinct meanings in terms of what people expect. I mean you could call all the DLC that's been released "expansions" as they've expanded the base game. Would I seriously say that Civ V has had 9 Expansions already? No. If you want to use the distribution definition as the sole criteria for defining DLC then you can call Civ V itself DLC as it was content you downloaded (regardless of if you got it retail cause you needed Steam).

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Sorry, but I disagree with all of this. Why are you limiting DLC?

DLC Civs so far are most certainly not an "expansion pack" but that does nothing to stop them from releasing such content in the future.

Steam games get downloadable "expansions" all the time.

Give me one reason why Firaxis can't make a game changing "expansion pack" available for download? By definition, that pack would be "DLC".

The last time we heard of anything about patches and DLC was when Korea and WOTAW were released, in late July, early August. We're more than a week through October and still nothing. Anything to be announced will be probably announced soon. Like one week soon.

I anticipate more DLC being announced soon. I'm hoping for another double Civ pack, I generally don't care all that much about the scenarios, but seeing my games populated with the same old Civs gets old fast seeing as I play without Mods/Extra Civs. (I want the steam achievements, and like seeing consistency in all of the leaders being animated)