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re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

Originally Posted by Anthony60

Oh, and let me throw this out there. I have Mozilla on one computer. The next time I use that computer, I will unistall Mozilla (FireFox). I don't like the way they are intolerant to people's beliefs, and I hope others that support people not being attacked in such a manner will do so also.

Congratulations on expressing your opinion. But you're way outnumbered so Mozilla went with the side that makes them more money.

He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear

re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

I personally feel that gay marriage should be legal. I support that right. I also support the rights of people who don't agree with me.

That said, I'm sure everyone who was calling for Eich's head will be completely understanding when some company decides it isn't in their best interest to have a CEO who donated to any group that opposed Proposition 8 in 2008 as their CEO, or any other employee for that matter.

re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

Originally Posted by Deuce

Congratulations on expressing your opinion. But you're way outnumbered so Mozilla went with the side that makes them more money.

Thanks so much! I'm sure Mozilla is in the midst of installing more servers to handle the certain blast of downloads they are sure to experience now that they put their foot on this non conforming unit that though he could think for himself!

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re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

The guy who had the gall to express his First Amendment rights and favor Prop 8 in California by donating $1,000 has just been scalped by some gay activists. After an OKCupid decision to boycott Mozilla, the recently appointed Brendan Eich just resigned under pressure:

In a post at Mozilla’s official blog, executive chairwoman Mitchell Baker confirmed the news with an unequivocal apology on the company’s behalf. “Mozilla prides itself on being held to a different standard and, this past week, we didn’t live up to it,” Baker wrote. “We didn’t act like you’d expect Mozilla to act. We didn’t move fast enough to engage with people once the controversy started. We’re sorry. We must do better.”
The action comes days after dating site OKCupid became the most vocal opponent of Eich’s hiring. Mozilla offered repeated statements about LGBT inclusivity within the company over the past two weeks, but those never came with a specific response from Eich about his thousands of dollars of donations in support of Proposition 8, a California ballot measure that sought to ban gay marriage in the state.

Will he now be forced to walk through the streets in shame? Why not the stocks? The whole episode disgusts me – as it should disgust anyone interested in a tolerant and diverse society. If this is the gay rights movement today – hounding our opponents with a fanaticism more like the religious right than anyone else – then count me out. If we are about intimidating the free speech of others, we are no better than the anti-gay bullies who came before us.
Update: A continuation of my stance here and my response to dissenting readers here.

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re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

Originally Posted by tres borrachos

I personally feel that gay marriage should be legal. I support that right. I also support the rights of people who don't agree with me.

That said, I'm sure everyone who was calling for Eich's head will be completely understanding when some company decides it isn't in their best interest to have a CEO who donated to any group that opposed Proposition 8 in 2008 as their CEO, or any other employee for that matter.

I posted a couple of things earlier that folks didnt dare touch, lol. They showed the more extreme side of the argument.

My personal opinion...and my actions...would reflect that if it *was* worded as civil unions for gays, many more people would have and today would support it. Because I think *most* people do believe in equal rights for gays. That is my 'personal' opinion, I dont have any figures to back it up.

The use of the word 'marriage,' **especially** in previous ballot measures before this issue got so much media attention, did and still does rock some peoples' worlds...there are many very traditional and/or religious people in this country that feel strongly about *their personal beliefs* but would not deny gays equal rights.

These are mostly older people too, tho not all. I think this is a cultural change that will take time. Laws pertaining to black and women's civil rights did not change minds and behavior immediately.

So I personally would not act against nor hold it against someone who had, in the past, voted against or donated to organizations against, SSM.

Originally Posted by Bucky

Welfare is a bad thing? It is essentially free money. It is not that bad.

Originally Posted by Bucky

I look at abortion the same way I do Pineapple Pizza.

Originally Posted by applejuicefool

A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

The guy who had the gall to express his First Amendment rights and favor Prop 8 in California by donating $1,000 has just been scalped by some gay activists. After an OKCupid decision to boycott Mozilla, the recently appointed Brendan Eich just resigned under pressure:

In a post at Mozilla’s official blog, executive chairwoman Mitchell Baker confirmed the news with an unequivocal apology on the company’s behalf. “Mozilla prides itself on being held to a different standard and, this past week, we didn’t live up to it,” Baker wrote. “We didn’t act like you’d expect Mozilla to act. We didn’t move fast enough to engage with people once the controversy started. We’re sorry. We must do better.”
The action comes days after dating site OKCupid became the most vocal opponent of Eich’s hiring. Mozilla offered repeated statements about LGBT inclusivity within the company over the past two weeks, but those never came with a specific response from Eich about his thousands of dollars of donations in support of Proposition 8, a California ballot measure that sought to ban gay marriage in the state.

Will he now be forced to walk through the streets in shame? Why not the stocks? The whole episode disgusts me – as it should disgust anyone interested in a tolerant and diverse society. If this is the gay rights movement today – hounding our opponents with a fanaticism more like the religious right than anyone else – then count me out. If we are about intimidating the free speech of others, we are no better than the anti-gay bullies who came before us.
Update: A continuation of my stance here and my response to dissenting readers here.

Sullivan was not always this way, but over the last ten or so years he's been a staunch advocate of true diversity, and he gets it why the "other" side wants to keep traditional marriage, even if he disagrees, he understands and respects their rights, hopes, and dreams. He knows the danger of the militant gaystapo, and he knows full well that any minor victories here and there are just one closer to awakening the monster.

Tim-

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re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

Originally Posted by tres borrachos

I don't think they did anything illegal.

1.)I'm curious what he did in his brief tenure as the Mozilla CEO that changed the positive atmosphere that members of the LGBT community who worked at Mozilla enjoyed.
2.) And has anyone found out what he did while CTO of Mozilla that hurt anyone in the company who was gay?

1.) was it positive before?
was it only LBGT people who didnt like his views?
and why do you assume it was somethign new and not just learning who he is
2.) why does this matter?

Originally Posted by RamFel

Genetically human & human being is exactly the same thing.

Originally Posted by Hicup

homosexuality is objectively wrong, but because science tells me it is, not politics.

re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

The guy who had the gall to express his First Amendment rights and favor Prop 8 in California by donating $1,000 has just been scalped by some gay activists. After an OKCupid decision to boycott Mozilla, the recently appointed Brendan Eich just resigned under pressure:

In a post at Mozilla’s official blog, executive chairwoman Mitchell Baker confirmed the news with an unequivocal apology on the company’s behalf. “Mozilla prides itself on being held to a different standard and, this past week, we didn’t live up to it,” Baker wrote. “We didn’t act like you’d expect Mozilla to act. We didn’t move fast enough to engage with people once the controversy started. We’re sorry. We must do better.”
The action comes days after dating site OKCupid became the most vocal opponent of Eich’s hiring. Mozilla offered repeated statements about LGBT inclusivity within the company over the past two weeks, but those never came with a specific response from Eich about his thousands of dollars of donations in support of Proposition 8, a California ballot measure that sought to ban gay marriage in the state.

Will he now be forced to walk through the streets in shame? Why not the stocks? The whole episode disgusts me – as it should disgust anyone interested in a tolerant and diverse society. If this is the gay rights movement today – hounding our opponents with a fanaticism more like the religious right than anyone else – then count me out. If we are about intimidating the free speech of others, we are no better than the anti-gay bullies who came before us.
Update: A continuation of my stance here and my response to dissenting readers here.