They really need to shut down the portals in SW/OGR and spread them out across the other citys. The Ethereals should open a shop in every city as well, including Dalaran and Shattrath.
The Dalaran teleport ring should also be available as a Shattrath version, and it's cooldown reduced to 15 min.

Once I figured out I could get to most services in IF faster than I could in SW, I've been going there from the portal in the Shrine. In SW, you need to run out of the Mage Tower before you can mount, but it only takes a second to get out of the Mage room in IF and mount up. I'll even go to IF to get to DMF.

Haha totally true. And a lot of Forsaken would come and fight too right? For a place they don't even use except for "storing" some plaguefilled wagons. The entire city is empty. Save for a few wagons at the entrance. You guys sure pick your battles well fighting for what is worth keeping

Ironforge died entirely at the start of cata. One of the t11 raids is literally a minute away from SW, in addition the portal hub for the cata zones is in SW. I've personally disliked Ironforge for a long time though I'm still not sure why I dislike it.

Originally Posted by Bigbamboozal

Intelligence is like four wheel drive, it's not going to make you unstoppable, it just sort of tends to get you stuck in more remote places.

Originally Posted by MerinPally

If you want to be disgusted, next time you kiss someone remember you've got your mouth on the end of a tube which has shit at the other end, held back by a couple of valves.

I do miss Ironforge, as much as I do Thunder Bluff. Shame they didn't extend the revamps and the goodies (extra AHs, portals etc) to other cities.

I agree but I do feel CRZ are a part of this. IF and other none SW cities are now CRZ. If we would have all the goodies that SW has in the other cities where CRZ was and as such make SW the only bastion where CRZ wasn't present. You'd probably (unless you didn't care ofc) still go to SW or Oggy. Or Blizzard would make all cities CRZ and people would complain about their server not feeling like "home" anymore.

Just heavy handed crap from Blizz stuffing all the goodies into one city.. I say heavy handed because it was probably an attempt to get people to cluster together to foster some kind of 'community' or some sense that the world was busy. That kinda backfired.

Frankly, having to go out into Pandaria to spend down my honor points or turn in raiding tokens/buy valor gear has gotten pretty darn annoying.

Anyway... they should have put portals to the Cataclysm zones (and now Jade forest) in every city. They gave no good reason for not doing it.

"Do not look down, my friend. Even in the darkest of times, there is always hope... Hope for a better day, hope for a new dawn... Or just hope for a good breakfast. You start small, then see what you can get." ~ Covetous Shen

SW gained popularity on my server, right as TBC launched. I suspect because it was closer to the Dark Portal, and the Karazhan raid.
Then, came the portal era...

On the servers I've played on this has been the case. SW became the place to be in TBC, not cata. Or rather, some pvpers still hang out in IF since there were fewer people around and they could go about their business with less lag and more duels. But the majority hang out at SW and a lot of duels took place there too. Probably due to Karazhan and the Dark Portal as Zeverin said.

On the servers I've played on this has been the case. SW became the place to be in TBC, not cata. Or rather, some pvpers still hang out in IF since there were fewer people around and they could go about their business with less lag and more duels. But the majority hang out at SW and a lot of duels took place there too. Probably due to Karazhan and the Dark Portal as Zeverin said.

Well, Ironforge on my server was still flocked with people all the way up until Cataclysm came about... It was entirely the portals that sealed its fate, and I imagine this was true for other servers as well.

"Do not look down, my friend. Even in the darkest of times, there is always hope... Hope for a better day, hope for a new dawn... Or just hope for a good breakfast. You start small, then see what you can get." ~ Covetous Shen