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There is some real good news. Female gun ownership has increased something on the lines of 45% in applications. 6' 4" parolee vs 124gr JHP.... gun wins every single time. Can't say the same for parolee vs cell phone, parolee vs screaming, parolee vs pepper spray.

Minority CCW applications have increased quite a bit too. Hopefully it evens the playing field in urban areas, I'd love to see some criminal gene pools be erased with a bit of social darwinism by the righteous. No that's not a call for vigilantism, but crime in progress on yourself or family...rock and roll brah.

Valerie plame Wilson was in fact a spy but she was the wife of the us ambassador to Iraq. It is true she was sold out as well as her husband because they knew the war would not work and disagreed on policy relating to Iraq. Her job was to be the housewife that hung out with the wives of other VIPs such as those of the Iraqis and other nations like Saudi Arabia for one. She would use the information in addition to sending it up so that the us would have additional intel. Husbands talk to wives, wives gossip, Valerie "plays" gossip girl, gets info, and checkmate.

I highly recommend watching the coverage on that from 7 years ago. My special ass did a project on it in my special university because I'm so special.

Limiting bullets? Do you mean bullet control Chris Rock?

I first learned about Valerie plame from the movie fair game starring sean penn.I thought it was pretty interesting,so then I watched her testify before congress and then read her book "fair game"..idk what u mean about the gossip thing,i don't recall that part but she was a nuclear spy for the cia.

and joe Wilson,former ambassador to Iraq,the last American to actually see saddam b4 we killed him.they only used him because of his expertise in niger and his relations with the Nigerian government,not because he was plames husband.so anyway bush and his cronies say saddam sought vast quantities of yellowcake uranium from niger.niger is a poor country.to begin,first off u will need hundreds of dumptrucks to haul the load,and being in that region it was impossible to miss such an occasion.2nd at the time,the mine was flooded and nothing could be exported out.so we go to war aand joe Wilson put out an article in the ny times "what I didn't find in Africa" and that's when everything turned to shyt for them.but they weren't traitors or anything like that,so why leak their names?she actually worked out a deal for the former Iraqi nuclear scientists to come work for America doing nuclear stuff.well before she could pick them up,her cover was blown,the mission was compromised,and they sent the mossad in to dust off the Iraqis.true story,i read just about every document pertaining to the matter to get a clear picture

im not a fan of chris rock,except for his movies.if he did say something about bullet control that's cool

Who controls the 'tests'? Government? Same government that has the former head of Monsanto heading up the FDA? Same government that signed in NDAA? Patriot act?
No thanks. Of the 23,000 gun related deaths last year, 87% were suicides. The remaining consisted primarily of POLICE shootings, small percentage left over was gang violence. Less than .01% were instances of "rampages". 88,000,000 and rising legal gun owners in the country. If your argument was truly about saving lives, you'd ban weather/cars/tobacco/alcohol/electricity/GMO food/oceans/boats....you get my point. Gun control isn't about violence or guns, it's about control. It's the last line of defense before a gov decides to enact its will without the will of the people in mind. You can ask Mao, Hitler, Stalin, Chavez, Castro, etc etc...they'll all tell you gun control works. Australia....banned guns, violent crime rose 93% and has yet to drop. England banned guns....same deal. Violence happens, evil exists, and the only thing taking away guns from good people does...is make the criminals in this world have an easier job. Ban them, fine....criminals follow the law right?
As for bullets, I've been pressing my own and casting my own since I started shooting 3-gun. I shoot more in a month than most cops do in a career. Never gonna happen.
Again....since when has ANYTHING mandated or law prevented a crime? We outlawed meth....seems to be working well. Heroin use doesn't happen right? How about driving drunk? Auto theft? Rape?
You mean to tell me laws didn't bust out the forcefield and save us all from the evil killy things?

Laws are like locked doors, they only keep the honest out. Level the playing field, give good people the ability to defend themselves. The instances like this are too few and far in between to legislate for. Want to save lives? Arm the good people in urban Chicago. Arm the people in Los Angeles. Arm NYC and the boroughs. Watch Darwin take hold.

Ask Switzerland. All homes have a sig 550, select fire, government supplied. They don't have a crime rate. No need to ask why, it's rhetorical, nobody wants to break into a house or cause a scene in a place that everyone has mil grade weaponry at their toes.

hey im not the one trying to take away your guns!!!im just saying theres things to do to limit mass shootings.nobody ever worries about murders in the ghetto.why?because blacks killing blacks,stays in the community,and saves the police the job.but white kids killing other rich white kids and we need to ban guns.

did u ever see "the wire?" if not please do,it is the realest shyt u will see,thats on tv.from the streets to politics to school to cops to the unions.during one of the seasons,dont want to be a spoiler alert but the shows over 10 yrs old so...anyway when chris and snoop start killing everyone and stuffing them in the vacants(abandoned houses).eventually they catch on and realize that theres dozens of bodies scattered all out.you would think its big news,false.so mcnulty comes up with a scheme to make it seem like somebody is a homeless serial killer,killing all the homeless people.as u know it,white people getting killed is big news,so they do everything they can to catch the serial killer,which is mcnulty lol,and he uses the resources to hunt down the real target that nobody cares about,chris and snoop.

that's just the point im trying to make.it only matters whos getting phukd,white people or black people.look at this "herion epidemic" we have today.epidemic uhhh I don't think so.black people been feinding for decades,nothing worth mentioning on the news.ok the 2000s era,kids start doing painkillers,again nothing new oxys been out for decades as well,atleast the 90s idk im not a fan,and graduate to herion.now its an edipemic because white kids in rich places like point pleasant and seaside heights start odying so now we start a crackdown.

blacks killing blacks,blah blah blah,nothing.sandy hook shooting,a white kid whos parent was a "prepper" as in doomsday prepper so they have many many guns they do not need.anyway u know the story kid shoots everyone up,now we have to ban guns.didnt matter that the guns were purchased legally by the mother,but also taught her son how to use it.

well that's all I can think of for now

unfortunately the gov is the only thing that can regulate,which they do terribly,but hey its amerikka.

we live in a racist country,a bully country.
first it was the
jews..
then the blacks
now the arabs.

see I lived in the phukin slums,as shytty as it can be.i lived among black people,spanish people lol,let me rephrase that,i lived with African americans,Nigerians,Ethiopians,Mexicans,el Salvadorians,ecudorians.my best friend from my childhood was venezuelian and they were the nicest people.ok im not finished,iranians,Pakistanis,afghanis,Indians,Turk ish,no jews they just own the property they don't live there.Haitians,i cant recall everyone but my class was like the united nations.this was way before 911 so we didn't hate them yet.what I learned is everybody is the same,minus a few weirdos but they exist everywhere.the worst people who I absolutely hate are the Egyptians.they are byfar the worse I had to deal with.i got beat up everyday by them,and they were always deep.theyd always brag about being arabs,even tho they are Egyptians.they had a gang called a.c.e all crazy Egyptians.they beat people up,rob people,stick up stores,stab people,etc.if I was to keep a tab on some region it would be them,not Pakistan or Afghanistan.most of the pakastanis I went to school with are now doctors driving Mercedes and making 6 figures.and don't forget Pakistan is the birthplace of the Taliban.
people only do as they are taught.if they are being raised in America,they act like americans.if u get taught in Pakistan,well youll probably be a terrorist.i remember this 1 bully in school,he was a pakastani I believe,and his name was Osama,which was a common name in my school.the kid got his last warning,kept talkin shyt to the teacher and she said she was gona call his father.this kid broke down started crying please I don't want to go back to Pakistan!!!idk whatever happened to him,probably killed in a drone strike or something.oh yea and the Russians lol,Il save that for another time

hey im not the one trying to take away your guns!!!im just saying theres things to do to limit mass shootings.nobody ever worries about murders in the ghetto.why?because blacks killing blacks,stays in the community,and saves the police the job.but white kids killing other rich white kids and we need to ban guns.

did u ever see "the wire?" if not please do,it is the realest shyt u will see,thats on tv.from the streets to politics to school to cops to the unions.during one of the seasons,dont want to be a spoiler alert but the shows over 10 yrs old so...anyway when chris and snoop start killing everyone and stuffing them in the vacants(abandoned houses).eventually they catch on and realize that theres dozens of bodies scattered all out.you would think its big news,false.so mcnulty comes up with a scheme to make it seem like somebody is a homeless serial killer,killing all the homeless people.as u know it,white people getting killed is big news,so they do everything they can to catch the serial killer,which is mcnulty lol,and he uses the resources to hunt down the real target that nobody cares about,chris and snoop.

that's just the point im trying to make.it only matters whos getting phukd,white people or black people.look at this "herion epidemic" we have today.epidemic uhhh I don't think so.black people been feinding for decades,nothing worth mentioning on the news.ok the 2000s era,kids start doing painkillers,again nothing new oxys been out for decades as well,atleast the 90s idk im not a fan,and graduate to herion.now its an edipemic because white kids in rich places like point pleasant and seaside heights start odying so now we start a crackdown.

blacks killing blacks,blah blah blah,nothing.sandy hook shooting,a white kid whos parent was a "prepper" as in doomsday prepper so they have many many guns they do not need.anyway u know the story kid shoots everyone up,now we have to ban guns.didnt matter that the guns were purchased legally by the mother,but also taught her son how to use it.

well that's all I can think of for now

unfortunately the gov is the only thing that can regulate,which they do terribly,but hey its amerikka.

I don't think there's a damn thing we can do. Can't legislate human behavior. I can build a gun with a few pieces of sheet metal, a lathe, and some tac welds. I can also just as easily buy a 3D printer. Gun debate is over as of the rise of the 3D printer, there isn't a damn thing anyone can do to stop it. Ban guns tomorrow, confiscate everything (assuming criminals follow the law and turn over their stolen guns), and I'll still build one the next day for personal protection. I've built 2 AKs in my metal shop. Takes about 3 hours if it's from scratch, 1 if I have a kit from yugo/bulgaria/china/etc. Give me a 3D printer, and maybe 30 mins for a fully functioning pistol.

Or, let's say there is no guns. Have a home depot gift card and a computer? Kaboom. Much easier than getting your hands on guns.

What I'm trying to say, is there isn't a damn thing you can do to legislate evil. Evil doesn't care about laws, evil will always find a way to be evil. The only thing such laws will do is ensure that evil will not be met with equal and opposing force.

What do you do when you're in serious trouble? You call the cops. So, you're in trouble, you call guys with guns to help. Why not cut out the middle man and wait time, and actually have a fighting chance.

I am not hyping this... But I stumbled on this article on wiki when I just simply googled gun homicide rates. The link said "The link between race and gun crime in America"... I am just presenting this, because I think to answer Ceprianos question about why it never shows up in the main stream media. Be careful what you wish for, because with the majority of the nation siding to the liberal side, anti everything and all for this Utopian society, if the general public was reminded about what's really going on in the inner cities, they may think twice about the Trevon Martin argument and the fake reality in which they all think we live in.... And this was a study and report done on the BIAS of statistics in this case. Rather than breaking it down on a 1 to 1 level, they break it down into sheer numbers, which don't add up. And this is why you should ALL think about owning a gun... Because you don't want to be a victim.

DISCLAIMER: These are not my views. This was a study and an article published. I think everyone would be sh**ing their pants if they really knew what goes on in all our cities.

United States

The Color of Crime. Available online: [1]
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As of 2005, statistics show[2] that offending rates for blacks were more than 7 times higher than the rates for whites.

The report The Color of Crime (2005, second expanded edition) by the New Century Foundation states that there are several problems with the official crime statistics in the United States. These tend to cause underestimation of racial crime differences. One example being "Whites" sometimes including Hispanics. Another is not adjusting for that the different racial groups differ in population size. The report reviews the more accurate statistics that is available and describes many large differences in crime rates between races. The report also examines the research on possible bias against racial minorities in the justice system and the police and concludes that bias not a significant explanation for the different racial crime rates.[3]
It major findings were stated as:[3]
Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
When Blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-Blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the White rate.
The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is Black and Hispanic.
Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving Blacks and Whites, Blacks commit 85 percent and Whites commit 15 percent.
Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are Black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When Whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are Black.
Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a White than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.
Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.
Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from 139 to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000 to 1.39 million.
Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than Whites. Hispanics are three times more likely.
The report also stated that between 2001 and 2003 there were an average of 15,400 Black-on-White rapes. The number of White-on-Black rapes were unclear. Counting some Hispanics as Whites, there were 900 "White"-on-Black rapes. Blacks were 7.2 time more likely to commit interracial rape even after controlling for differences in population size and for the higher general rate of rape for Blacks. This may suggest a deliberate targeting of Whites.[3]
There were 10,000 gang-rapes by Blacks against Whites between but not a single "White"-on-Black gang rape.[3]
A common myth is that Whites are more likely to commit white-collar offenses. Actually, Blacks are 3-5 times more likely than Whites to be in prison for fraud, bribery/conflict of interest, racketeering, and embezzlement.[3]
A large number of studies have examined the relationship between percentage of Black population in an area and crime. Almost all have found a higher percentage of Blacks in the area to be associated with more violent crime and most have found such a relationship with other types of crimes.[1]
Only 0.3% of reported interracial crimes are classified as official "hate crimes". This classification has been argued to be arbitrary and biased against Whites. Despite this Blacks commit 2.25 times more official hate crimes against Whites and Hispanics than the reverse. The media has been argued to give undue emphasis to official hate crimes as compared to the much more common interracial crimes in general as well as having a bias towards reporting the more uncommon White-on-Black crimes.[4][3]

As of 2001, the chances of going to only State or Federal prison in percentages for various demographic groups. The lifetime chance for Black males was around 1/3.[5]
For men in their early thirties, Blacks are about 7 times more likely to have a prison record than Whites. They are more likely to have been in prison (22.4 percent) than in the military (17.4 percent) or in college. 12.5 percent have a bachelor’s degree. The results are related on educational achievement. 30 percent of those without college education and nearly 60 percent of high school dropouts had prison records.[6]
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Not trying to derail this thread or make ANY suggestions. I am just pointed out how liberal and conservative media are to blame for not exposing the daily truth that we are all so close to, but don't want to see.

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u mean like this?im all for guns,just don't think mentally ill people should be allowed to buy.i tried to make a pen gun with a .223 I think it was,bullets looked like something out of an assault rifle.anyway it failed,neary killed myself,the barrel has to be rifled and I don't have that kind of equipment.when I was younger I was heavy into the anarchist cookbook.after 911 I threw all that shyt away,dont want to take any chances.yes our government sucks,but hey we have to live here so mindswell make the best of it.

Did any of you guys notice that Mosul fell to the insurgents today....?

We are all the American Sheeple. The pols wave the flag & call on our patriotism & send our courageous soldiers home in body bags. For nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Spotted that.

Billions of dollars, countless lives, falls into the same hands we were fighting. Sick.

We've created the most dangerous power vacuum in history.
Only a matter of time before someone starts lighting off big boys and playing for keeps. I suspect glass parking lots and Hiroshima Geiger counter readings within 10 years (tops).