Stay stimulated! This show is all about getting people who know stuff to talk about it in depth. Join Matt Carter of Emery as he engages in one of the best ways to learn, to be genuinely interested and to explore in long form conversation.

Emery's new guitarist and producer Chris Keene and I walk through the evolution of "Is This the Real Life" from demo, pre-pro, and final versions. We focus mainly on the guitar parts, recording, and song structure from one version to the next as the song came to life.