Post by rational on Jan 9, 2016 15:00:13 GMT -5

Are you implying that the vast amount of pedophiles on this planet all have tumors?

I am implying no such thing. I don't know what causes a person to become a pedophile but then neither do you. Some evidence points to it being genetic and other research can demonstrate how anyone, even you, could suddenly have a great attraction to having sex with children through a change in their brain. I am not offering this as an excuse but as something to think about before rendering judgment on people.

The assumption is made that it is within the offenders control. That the person has somehow chosen to attack children and should therefore be punished for their actions.

Yet it has been demonstrated that at times people become pedophiles through no fault of their own and entirely beyond their control. The same is true for many disorders.

Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 12:49:31 GMT -5

Are you implying that the vast amount of pedophiles on this planet all have tumors?

I am implying no such thing. I don't know what causes a person to become a pedophile but then neither do you. Some evidence points to it being genetic and other research can demonstrate how anyone, even you, could suddenly have a great attraction to having sex with children through a change in their brain. I am not offering this as an excuse but as something to think about before rendering judgment on people.

The assumption is made that it is within the offenders control. That the person has somehow chosen to attack children and should therefore be punished for their actions.

Yet it has been demonstrated that at times people become pedophiles through no fault of their own and entirely beyond their control. The same is true for many disorders.

Records have shown that some children who had been groomed and abused, themselves turn ot to be abusers in their adulthood, this seems to suggest that it can be learnt behavoiur.

No i dont have a particlar reference, but this reference seems to indicate that "Some" not all abused children do go on to abuse. It also hughlight the fact that children that have been abused in the home and elsewhere, not necessarily sexually abused, but other forms of abuse and neglect, have also turn out to be sexual abusers later in life. It highlights and confirms that forms of abuse on juveniles can and do have serious and negative behavioural effects on them in adulthood. A good reference point though, I do not recall having seen that one before, thanks for posting it. I have decided to subscribe to it, very interesting.

No i dont have a particlar reference, but this reference seems to indicate that "Some" not all abused children do go on to abuse. It also hughlight the fact that children that have been abused in the home and elsewhere, not necessarily sexually abused, but other forms of abuse and neglect, have also turn out to be sexual abusers later in life. It highlights and confirms that forms of abuse on juveniles can and do have serious and negative behavioural effects on them in adulthood. A good reference point though, I do not recall having seen that one before, thanks for posting it. I have decided to subscribe to it, very interesting.

I thought it implied that in these cases of CSA it is not always the sexual assult itself that is the issue for longterm problems but the often dysfunctional family setting where it takes place. Many of the stories told here point to that fact - reports of sexual abuse that are ignored or not believed. The most blatant one was the story related by JEAN. It always seemed to me that the sexual abuse by IH was only one of many issues.

Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 13:51:14 GMT -5

No i dont have a particlar reference, but this reference seems to indicate that "Some" not all abused children do go on to abuse. It also hughlight the fact that children that have been abused in the home and elsewhere, not necessarily sexually abused, but other forms of abuse and neglect, have also turn out to be sexual abusers later in life. It highlights and confirms that forms of abuse on juveniles can and do have serious and negative behavioural effects on them in adulthood. A good reference point though, I do not recall having seen that one before, thanks for posting it. I have decided to subscribe to it, very interesting.

I thought it implied that in these cases of CSA it is not always the sexual assult itself that is the issue for longterm problems but the often dysfunctional family setting where it takes place. Many of the stories told here point to that fact - reports of sexual abuse that are ignored or not believed. The most blatant one was the story related by JEAN. It always seemed to me that the sexual abuse by IH was only one of many issues.

Granted, yes I understand what you are saying, but I have not really had the chance to study them in detail, but I will do so because it is an area that interest me. Will probably come back to it again shortly. Nursing a bad cold at present, brought it back from recent visit to the UK.

No i dont have a particlar reference, but this reference seems to indicate that "Some" not all abused children do go on to abuse. It also hughlight the fact that children that have been abused in the home and elsewhere, not necessarily sexually abused, but other forms of abuse and neglect, have also turn out to be sexual abusers later in life. It highlights and confirms that forms of abuse on juveniles can and do have serious and negative behavioural effects on them in adulthood. A good reference point though, I do not recall having seen that one before, thanks for posting it. I have decided to subscribe to it, very interesting.

Post by snooz on May 27, 2016 5:15:57 GMT -5

I think God, is :- life - the matter that begin to be conscious. - the projection of Mankind dream and potential capabilies ( reach immortality , go beyond our earthly craddle ...).

with God's spirit Mankind will be able to go beyond its weak "pysical corps" and extend / expand Life through the cosmos.

As french philosopher Henri Bergson conclude in his book "The Two Sources of Morality and Religion" ( published in 1932) : Men do not sufficiently realise that their future is in their own hands. Theirs is the task of determining first of all whether they want to go on living or not. Theirs is the responsibility, then, for deciding if they want merely to live, or intend to make just the extra effort required for fulfilling, even on their refractory planet, the essential function of the universe, which is a machine for the making of gods

Post by Commonman on May 29, 2016 4:12:03 GMT -5

I think God, is :- life - the matter that begin to be conscious. - the projection of Mankind dream and potential capabilies ( reach immortality , go beyond our earthly craddle ...).

with God's spirit Mankind will be able to go beyond its weak "pysical corps" and extend / expand Life through

Theirs is the responsibility, then, for deciding if they want merely to live, or intend to make just the extra effort required for fulfilling, even on their refractory planet, the essential function of the universe, which is a machine for the making of gods

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An extended plan for and of principles and princely people.Sounds heavenly .....

Post by Commonman on Jun 15, 2016 18:49:17 GMT -5

The old kingdom was of this world, heirs and believers in the Covenant that was promised to Abraham and Sarah through Israel (Jacob)

Why do we wonder if these kingdoms are the same kingdom?

They are but now the old covenant is replacedby the New and Living covenant that was made possible because of a life that was livedPerfectly and offered freely to negate theproblem that man caused when we sinagainst our Creator.

Post by dmmichgood on Jun 16, 2016 2:50:52 GMT -5

I think God, is :- life - the matter that begin to be conscious. - the projection of Mankind dream and potential capabilies ( reach immortality , go beyond our earthly craddle ...).

with God's spirit Mankind will be able to go beyond its weak "pysical corps" and extend / expand Life through the cosmos.

As french philosopher Henri Bergson conclude in his book "The Two Sources of Morality and Religion" ( published in 1932) : Men do not sufficiently realise that their future is in their own hands. Theirs is the task of determining first of all whether they want to go on living or not. Theirs is the responsibility, then, for deciding if they want merely to live, or intend to make just the extra effort required for fulfilling, even on their refractory planet, the essential function of the universe, which is a machine for the making of gods

Post by rational on Jun 17, 2016 9:13:39 GMT -5

There is only ONE true and living God. That is thereason we capitalize it.

Adding a capital 'G' does not make it true.

That ONE is knowable only if we know His son.

If we do not know the Father we will not know His Son, either.

So you are a member of an exclusive belief system?

That is the promise made from the beginning ofCreation, and still is true as ever.

There are a lot of promised that can be dredged out of the sacred texts. How do you determine which are true and which are false?

Throw out beliefs that are erred, do justly, love mercy....walk humbly with thy God.

Do you really think you could throw out your belief in god if errors in that belief system were pointed out? It would be like asking someone holding onto an anchored life-ring to let go and swim the 3 feet to the shore.

Post by Commonman on Aug 18, 2016 22:18:29 GMT -5

True , only God can forgive sins that are against Truth, but it is quite obvious thatJesus gave us the power to forgive 70x 7 sins , and if we refuse to forgive someone sin against our person,then God would not forgive our sin., Yes , that is what we should be trying to do ,

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