Cerdicjute wrote:
Trouble is objectors have to win every time, the applicant only once.

That's not a problem. Permission once granted isn't necessarily forever. Enviro Health powers can and frequently are used to restrict business activity deemed to be detrimental to neighbours.

A recent example was in East London where a fish smokehouse that had operated for centuries was served with a closure notice.

Screwfix are a distribution company, a warehouse. They don't manufacture anything on that site. In essence, they are no different to Sainsbury's or M&S, and generate a lot less traffic.

I expect the company to win at appeal, and hope they do. NIMBYs are just one of many reasons why the UK economy is in deep trouble.

Successful companies like this one have multiple barriers put in their way by NIMBYS, while our competitors, the Chinese etc, etc, etc are laughing all the way to their banks.

[quote][p][bold]Cerdicjute[/bold] wrote:
Trouble is objectors have to win every time, the applicant only once.[/p][/quote]That's not a problem. Permission once granted isn't necessarily forever. Enviro Health powers can and frequently are used to restrict business activity deemed to be detrimental to neighbours.
A recent example was in East London where a fish smokehouse that had operated for centuries was served with a closure notice.
Screwfix are a distribution company, a warehouse. They don't manufacture anything on that site. In essence, they are no different to Sainsbury's or M&S, and generate a lot less traffic.
I expect the company to win at appeal, and hope they do. NIMBYs are just one of many reasons why the UK economy is in deep trouble.
Successful companies like this one have multiple barriers put in their way by NIMBYS, while our competitors, the Chinese etc, etc, etc are laughing all the way to their banks.george h

Cerdicjute wrote: Trouble is objectors have to win every time, the applicant only once.

That's not a problem. Permission once granted isn't necessarily forever. Enviro Health powers can and frequently are used to restrict business activity deemed to be detrimental to neighbours. A recent example was in East London where a fish smokehouse that had operated for centuries was served with a closure notice. Screwfix are a distribution company, a warehouse. They don't manufacture anything on that site. In essence, they are no different to Sainsbury's or M&amp;S, and generate a lot less traffic. I expect the company to win at appeal, and hope they do. NIMBYs are just one of many reasons why the UK economy is in deep trouble. Successful companies like this one have multiple barriers put in their way by NIMBYS, while our competitors, the Chinese etc, etc, etc are laughing all the way to their banks.

Yes we should all live in factories and work for next to nothing in squalid conditions, then one day our society might be as successful as China.

So there were objections from people who care about their immediate environment and have expectations for a certain quality of life during the evening and weekends.
What monsters!

[quote][p][bold]george h[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Cerdicjute[/bold] wrote: Trouble is objectors have to win every time, the applicant only once.[/p][/quote]That's not a problem. Permission once granted isn't necessarily forever. Enviro Health powers can and frequently are used to restrict business activity deemed to be detrimental to neighbours. A recent example was in East London where a fish smokehouse that had operated for centuries was served with a closure notice. Screwfix are a distribution company, a warehouse. They don't manufacture anything on that site. In essence, they are no different to Sainsbury's or M&S, and generate a lot less traffic. I expect the company to win at appeal, and hope they do. NIMBYs are just one of many reasons why the UK economy is in deep trouble. Successful companies like this one have multiple barriers put in their way by NIMBYS, while our competitors, the Chinese etc, etc, etc are laughing all the way to their banks.[/p][/quote]Yes we should all live in factories and work for next to nothing in squalid conditions, then one day our society might be as successful as China.
So there were objections from people who care about their immediate environment and have expectations for a certain quality of life during the evening and weekends.
What monsters!St.Winch70

Cerdicjute wrote: Trouble is objectors have to win every time, the applicant only once.

That's not a problem. Permission once granted isn't necessarily forever. Enviro Health powers can and frequently are used to restrict business activity deemed to be detrimental to neighbours. A recent example was in East London where a fish smokehouse that had operated for centuries was served with a closure notice. Screwfix are a distribution company, a warehouse. They don't manufacture anything on that site. In essence, they are no different to Sainsbury's or M&amp;S, and generate a lot less traffic. I expect the company to win at appeal, and hope they do. NIMBYs are just one of many reasons why the UK economy is in deep trouble. Successful companies like this one have multiple barriers put in their way by NIMBYS, while our competitors, the Chinese etc, etc, etc are laughing all the way to their banks.

Yes we should all live in factories and work for next to nothing in squalid conditions, then one day our society might be as successful as China.

So there were objections from people who care about their immediate environment and have expectations for a certain quality of life during the evening and weekends.
What monsters!

Its companies like Screwfix, domestic not foreign, who earn profits, pay taxes (unlike foreign-owed multinationals like Starbucks etc) that pay good wages to those employed, while their taxes help pay for the pensions of the NIMBYs.

Monsters? Get a life! Don't be so selfish.

People need jobs. Employment gives people (especially youngsters) hope for the future. Alas the NIMBYs are probably already well-established with no thought at all for those less well placed.

Selfish hardly begins to describe those people. If only the councillors who voted this down could be surcharged for the costs that can, and probably will, be awarded after a successful appeal. Alas, it'll be the residents of Ringwood who pay the bill.

[quote][p][bold]St.Winch70[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]george h[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Cerdicjute[/bold] wrote: Trouble is objectors have to win every time, the applicant only once.[/p][/quote]That's not a problem. Permission once granted isn't necessarily forever. Enviro Health powers can and frequently are used to restrict business activity deemed to be detrimental to neighbours. A recent example was in East London where a fish smokehouse that had operated for centuries was served with a closure notice. Screwfix are a distribution company, a warehouse. They don't manufacture anything on that site. In essence, they are no different to Sainsbury's or M&S, and generate a lot less traffic. I expect the company to win at appeal, and hope they do. NIMBYs are just one of many reasons why the UK economy is in deep trouble. Successful companies like this one have multiple barriers put in their way by NIMBYS, while our competitors, the Chinese etc, etc, etc are laughing all the way to their banks.[/p][/quote]Yes we should all live in factories and work for next to nothing in squalid conditions, then one day our society might be as successful as China.
So there were objections from people who care about their immediate environment and have expectations for a certain quality of life during the evening and weekends.
What monsters![/p][/quote]Its companies like Screwfix, domestic not foreign, who earn profits, pay taxes (unlike foreign-owed multinationals like Starbucks etc) that pay good wages to those employed, while their taxes help pay for the pensions of the NIMBYs.
Monsters? Get a life! Don't be so selfish.
People need jobs. Employment gives people (especially youngsters) hope for the future. Alas the NIMBYs are probably already well-established with no thought at all for those less well placed.
Selfish hardly begins to describe those people. If only the councillors who voted this down could be surcharged for the costs that can, and probably will, be awarded after a successful appeal. Alas, it'll be the residents of Ringwood who pay the bill.george h

Can't take you seriously I'm afraid. Nimbys holding back the economy...

The world will still turn if stores don't open every hour of every day.

Extended opening hours harm family life and leisure time and cause further stress and strain.
These are the things that should concern people. Not whether an already successful company can further line the pockets of their share holders.

Far from selfish, maybe you could do with more of a social conscience Mr China...

Can't take you seriously I'm afraid. Nimbys holding back the economy...
The world will still turn if stores don't open every hour of every day.
Extended opening hours harm family life and leisure time and cause further stress and strain.
These are the things that should concern people. Not whether an already successful company can further line the pockets of their share holders.
Far from selfish, maybe you could do with more of a social conscience Mr China...St.Winch70

not too worried if places like this are open till 6pm, its the time they start the day at that I am concerned with. We have an industrial estate near to us and in the summer the hgvs start leaving at around 5am waking us all up. the only solution is to keep the double glazed windows shut overnight. in the heat of a hot summers night this is not ideal...

not too worried if places like this are open till 6pm, its the time they start the day at that I am concerned with. We have an industrial estate near to us and in the summer the hgvs start leaving at around 5am waking us all up. the only solution is to keep the double glazed windows shut overnight. in the heat of a hot summers night this is not ideal...Scatgirl

St.Winch70 wrote:
Can't take you seriously I'm afraid. Nimbys holding back the economy...

The world will still turn if stores don't open every hour of every day.

Extended opening hours harm family life and leisure time and cause further stress and strain.
These are the things that should concern people. Not whether an already successful company can further line the pockets of their share holders.

Far from selfish, maybe you could do with more of a social conscience Mr China...

Have your fun Mr NIMBY.

But don't blame others when Screwfix win an appeal and you and other Ringwood residents have to pay their costs.

And next time you need a builder, a plumber or even your drains unblocked at anti-social hours ask yourself where they can get their supplies. But don't badmouth the worker because you have to wait until office hours 9-5.

[quote][p][bold]St.Winch70[/bold] wrote:
Can't take you seriously I'm afraid. Nimbys holding back the economy...
The world will still turn if stores don't open every hour of every day.
Extended opening hours harm family life and leisure time and cause further stress and strain.
These are the things that should concern people. Not whether an already successful company can further line the pockets of their share holders.
Far from selfish, maybe you could do with more of a social conscience Mr China...[/p][/quote]Have your fun Mr NIMBY.
But don't blame others when Screwfix win an appeal and you and other Ringwood residents have to pay their costs.
And next time you need a builder, a plumber or even your drains unblocked at anti-social hours ask yourself where they can get their supplies. But don't badmouth the worker because you have to wait until office hours 9-5.george h

St.Winch70 wrote: Can't take you seriously I'm afraid. Nimbys holding back the economy... The world will still turn if stores don't open every hour of every day. Extended opening hours harm family life and leisure time and cause further stress and strain. These are the things that should concern people. Not whether an already successful company can further line the pockets of their share holders. Far from selfish, maybe you could do with more of a social conscience Mr China...

Have your fun Mr NIMBY. But don't blame others when Screwfix win an appeal and you and other Ringwood residents have to pay their costs. And next time you need a builder, a plumber or even your drains unblocked at anti-social hours ask yourself where they can get their supplies. But don't badmouth the worker because you have to wait until office hours 9-5.

Wrong with the NIMBY charge I'm afraid; It's usually a lazy accusation by people that in the main are happy for developers and other commerce to run roughshod over them for financial gains.

Lets hope that one day we all reach your Chinese utopia....

[quote][p][bold]george h[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]St.Winch70[/bold] wrote: Can't take you seriously I'm afraid. Nimbys holding back the economy... The world will still turn if stores don't open every hour of every day. Extended opening hours harm family life and leisure time and cause further stress and strain. These are the things that should concern people. Not whether an already successful company can further line the pockets of their share holders. Far from selfish, maybe you could do with more of a social conscience Mr China...[/p][/quote]Have your fun Mr NIMBY. But don't blame others when Screwfix win an appeal and you and other Ringwood residents have to pay their costs. And next time you need a builder, a plumber or even your drains unblocked at anti-social hours ask yourself where they can get their supplies. But don't badmouth the worker because you have to wait until office hours 9-5.[/p][/quote]Wrong with the NIMBY charge I'm afraid; It's usually a lazy accusation by people that in the main are happy for developers and other commerce to run roughshod over them for financial gains.
Lets hope that one day we all reach your Chinese utopia....St.Winch70