This made me curious. Went back into old emails. I could not find the address for everyone's messages. Somedid show their emails, other did not. Unless this is a newer thing happening. I will do some tests with my girlfriends account tonight and see what happens.

open an e-mail message and and click on the file menu
then click on properties
then click on details
and there you have it all the source e-mails for you to see.

easier to read if you then click on 'message source'

this is not an error on geocaching.com it is for each and every e-mail you send and recieve just thought you outta know.

what does it matter that I've just posted how ? any one with evil purposes will know this anyway

on another topic
This in particular really bugs me how people so carelessly handle thier e-mail addresses. Everyday I get forwarded e-mails that have addresses of people I don't know but my friends do ,some of them I have been able to educate and at least send e-mails using the Bcc: address bar when sending to mulitple addresses.
when I check my trash barrel I always see e-mails from myself and wonder how did I send an e-mail to myself promoting Russian girls looking for husbands!!! I spoke to my interent provider and they tell me that they have no way of stoping this type of spam.But at least now they put it into a trash barrel that I can later check if I wanted to.
and yes I am guilty of using my e-mail carlessly but I cant stop my friends from forwarding my addresses and thats how all this spam got started.
The internet is paying the price as millions upon millions of spam e-mails are floating around which is slowly the system down compared to what it was 5 years ago.
well I rambled on sorry

GET a damn good virus checker and keep it updated.
Its cheap insurance for computer safety

open an e-mail message and and click on the file menu
then click on properties
then click on details
and there you have it all the source e-mails for you to see.

easier to read if you then click on 'message source'

this is not an error on geocaching.com it is for each and every e-mail you send and recieve just thought you outta know.

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Again I reiterate that I have reviewed the entire mail message and I see no information leak whatsoever when you uncheck the 'I want to send my email address along with this message.' The sender's email address is not included, available or discoverable from the message in any way I can determine.

Obviously if you send a regular email message, information about who sent it is included in the message, that is how it is designed to work.

But I'm now confused. You just said "this is not an error on geocaching.com" but previously said that any message sent from geocaching.com includes your email address even if you tell it not to. If the message included the email address contrary to what the message form said, I would certainly consider that an error. I'm lost as to what problem you are actually concerned about?

take any e-mail you have recieved and follow my steps you just highlighted
it takes some searching but its there.
never said it was an error just that they claim to make your e-mail private which it is not.

take any e-mail you have recieved and follow my steps you just highlighted
it takes some searching but its there.
never said it was an error just that they claim to make your e-mail private which it is not.

I continue with my assertion that you are incorrect. The email address is not included if you uncheck the box as appropriate.

If you check "I want to send my email address along with this message.", then the mail header uses your email address as the reply-to: value. This, I believe, is done for two reasons:

- Geocaching.com cannot send an email as, say, your.name@gmail.com, as you have not provided them with your credentials.
- When the recipient hits reply, the To: field gets auto populated with the cleverly named reply-to address.

I don't really care if you think so or not as apparenly you seem to making ever effort to assure people here it is a bug.

pasted from an e-mail message source all I have done here is blank out the private e-mails addresses with XXXX which are my own and the senders

in RED is the senders private e-mail address
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Thanks for the example as it helps clear things up. I believe you are misunderstanding what has happened. In the example you provided I believe the sender has chosen not to make their email address private and thus it is included in the message. As angelcastaneda described there are two different results depending on if you check or uncheck the box.

If however, the sender did choose to hide their email address and it still was included, I would consider that a serious bug and thats what I understood as what you were initially describing.

I do not believe there is any issue with the geocaching.com website or privacy policy.

Everytime I email I expect someone to track me down somehow since in this game everyone seems to be a genius! I actually do geocaching hoping it rubs off on me and some of it (fingers crossed) actually has since I never bothered trying to solve puzzles like I do now. Such a feeling of accomplishment.

A crazy thing just happened so some acquaintances of mine from my hometown. Someone replicated their Facebook profiles and then signed up all their friends again saying their account had been compromised. They stole all major info including pics etc. Then the hacker/stalkers went and started having deep conversations with the newly signed up friends and also signing up for porn sites etc... The false profiles were shut down when the original people let messages on the Wall saying legal action would be taken. Just last week.

We just have to believe that we don't have CRAZY geocachers out there who want to destroy our caches and our lives.

The "To:" reference is obvious, but 5 lines above there is the ESMTP reference to my "private" address. Although when I look at the header of the e-mail that arrived in my wife's inbox, there is no reference to the sender's (my) e-mail.

But you did mention that you are able to see the addresses in e-mails that have been sent to you from other users. Just to offer my two cents on that one, I always offer my e-mail address to whomever I send a contact message to. My geocaching e-mail is not my primary account, so I don't really care who gets it. Is it possible that the people who have contacted you are fine with you receiving their e-mail address? I hope that is the case. But if not, Groundspeak should definitely be made aware.

Thanks for encouraging people to keep an updated malware system in place. Always good advice. And too few people follow it. Mind you, I'm kind of on the fence on that one, as "user misadventure" is the kind of thing that keeps people like me employed! _________________Have you hugged a lizard today?

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