Re: GUI suggestion/fix

Corwin <msgclb <at> cox.net>
2003-06-01 01:06:50 GMT

I am currently using the
Windows BNR2beta0.10.4 version and I can use the mouse wheel to move the
numbers in the spinner box. If I put my mouse pointer over the spinner textbox
and move the wheel then the numbers change in the direction of the wheel
movement. If the mouse pointer is over the grid with the spinner box on a
grid row then the article list will move as you described. I would like
some feedback if this works the same way on your system.

When you right click an article and select score, a spin
box appears. I try to change the value using my mouse wheel, but that
moves the hightlight up/down the article list instead. Am I doing
something wrong?

Re: Could BNR2 do this?

wangyuli_ts <wangyuli_ts <at> yahoo.com.cn>
2003-06-01 01:21:33 GMT

Ok I have figured it out myself.
BNR is so great!
Another question though,
I downloaded all headers from one complete server and queued
many files for downloading. I set all servers to be connect-on-demand,
but BNR only download from the server where I have downloaded all the
headers, for other servers I need to do that manually.
This will not happen if I dowload all headers from all servers, in
that situation, BNR automatically downloads from all servers, one by
one.
Could someone tell me how to solve this problem?
Thank you.
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Re: Infinitely downloading headers

llewsrac <llewsrac <at> yahoo.co.nz>
2003-06-01 07:34:40 GMT

Hi Fred
A real dumb question...., but does your monthly total double each
time you finish refreshing??
BNReaper, using, alibis appears to be downloading the same amount of
headers each time, but the monthly total does not indicate this nor
does the time spent in downloading the headers.
I wish that I had taken a diary of the last 4 or 5 times that I have
refreshed alt.binaries.x - new group for me.
It appears to be saying to me that it is downloading 450,000 odd
headers each time when the monthly total indicates only .1 or .2
megs - not 34 megs each time. The time also reflects that it is not
downloading all the headers. Hence BNReaper appears to be going
through the motions more than actually doing???
I am currently using alibis, but seriously looking at Newsfeeds in
the next week or so. Also you would know that I manually refresh not
use the BNR autorefresh.
Thanks for your post on this topic - real interesting reading.
John
PS sorry I could not respond earlier but BNR being so efficient I
could not try anything out until today. i had used up all my
allocatons for the month.
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Re: Infinitely downloading headers

chezpoupoune <calendini <at> libertysurf.fr>
2003-06-01 08:56:06 GMT

--- In bnr1 <at> yahoogroups.com, "llewsrac" <llewsrac <at> y...> wrote:
> Hi Fred
>
> A real dumb question...., but does your monthly total double each
> time you finish refreshing??
>
> BNReaper, using, alibis appears to be downloading the same amount
of
> headers each time, but the monthly total does not indicate this
nor
> does the time spent in downloading the headers.
>
> I wish that I had taken a diary of the last 4 or 5 times that I
have
> refreshed alt.binaries.x - new group for me.
>
> It appears to be saying to me that it is downloading 450,000 odd
> headers each time when the monthly total indicates only .1 or .2
> megs - not 34 megs each time. The time also reflects that it is
not
> downloading all the headers. Hence BNReaper appears to be going
> through the motions more than actually doing???
>
> I am currently using alibis, but seriously looking at Newsfeeds in
> the next week or so. Also you would know that I manually refresh
not
> use the BNR autorefresh.
>
> Thanks for your post on this topic - real interesting reading.
>
> John
> PS sorry I could not respond earlier but BNR being so efficient I
> could not try anything out until today. i had used up all my
> allocatons for the month.
Hi John
No dumb question :)
Ok, I'm sure that, for me, BNR is downloading 4 times the normal
amount of headers. The fact is that when I refresh a group, BNR
creates four identical tasks in the queue (or X identical tasks, if
I have X connections for the corresponding server). And my daily
bandwidth limit expires much sooner now that a large part of it is
dedicated to downloading heaps of headers again and again.
And I can't limit the number of headers to download, since it will
normally download the lower range of all the headers on the server,
ignoring the most recent ones...
Are you sure that when you think headers are downloaded quickly,
it's not in fact the result of the Listgroup command, which loads a
list and not the headers themselves ?
Bye !
Fred
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RE: Re: Unwanted maximization

Luc Neville <l.sneville <at> chello.nl>
2003-06-01 10:39:32 GMT

it is the animated button.
and i tried to reproduce the behaviour and came to the conclusion that bnr2
should be resized from a maximized state and after that use the refresh
button. i've tested it with the group|refresh from the menu but this one
doesn';t maximize.
#-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
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#Verzonden: Sunday, June 01, 2003 12:43 AM
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#Onderwerp: [BNR] Re: Unwanted maximization
#
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#--- In bnr1 <at> yahoogroups.com, "Luc Neville" <l.sneville <at> c...> wrote:
#> not sure if this is mentioned already. if so, i'm sorry.
#>
#> whenever i refresh a group from the group tab itself and my window
#> is not maximized, it gives back the results and maximizes my BNR
#> window. i'd like to see it not maximizing itself unless ofcourse
#> when you specifically maximize the program yourself.
#>
#> i'm using version 0.10.4 with windows xp
#>
#> Luc Neville
#
#Are you talking about the animated refresh button that updates the
#Message-List to show new messages, or the Group | Refresh command
#from the main menu? I usually keep BNR2 running in the lower half
#of my screen with Excel running in the upper half and I do not
#experience auto-maximization when I use either one of these features.
#
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Re: Re: Could BNR2 do this?

Dustin Rodriguez <drodriguez <at> ma.rr.com>
2003-06-01 11:01:43 GMT

In order for BNR2 to know the article numbers for the articles you marked
for download, you have to download the headers from each server. In theory,
BNR could just connect to the servers and try to request the article by its
unique Message-ID, but right now it cannot do that.
Dustin Rodriguez
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 9:21 PM
Subject: [BNR] Re: Could BNR2 do this?
> Ok I have figured it out myself.
> BNR is so great!
> Another question though,
> I downloaded all headers from one complete server and queued
> many files for downloading. I set all servers to be connect-on-demand,
> but BNR only download from the server where I have downloaded all the
> headers, for other servers I need to do that manually.
> This will not happen if I dowload all headers from all servers, in
> that situation, BNR automatically downloads from all servers, one by
> one.
> Could someone tell me how to solve this problem?
> Thank you.
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Re: Re: Could BNR2 do this?

Dustin Rodriguez <drodriguez <at> ma.rr.com> wrote:
> In order for BNR2 to know the article numbers for the articles you
> marked for download, you have to download the headers from each
> server. In theory, BNR could just connect to the servers and try to
> request the article by its unique Message-ID, but right now it cannot
> do that.
It's not officially supported, but it's on the wishlist.
However, if you use XHDR instead of XOVER, you will signficantly reduce the
headers you need to download. XHDR allows BNR2 to download the Article list
and Message-ID list first, and will only download the other headers if the
article isn't already known to BNR2.
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Re: Re: Could BNR2 do this?

Stefan Schlörholz <gib-es-mir <at> gmx.net>
2003-06-01 14:19:41 GMT

wangyuli_ts schrieb am Sonntag, 1. Juni 2003 03:21:
Hello ?????,
> Ok I have figured it out myself.
> BNR is so great!
And what is the solution?
It would is is very much apreciated if you post sollutions to problems
as well. There are other people out there who suffer the same problem
and are thankful for solutions.
So if you get a solution, please post it. Other people do not need to
think about a solution any longer.
Also, please mark the posting with "SOLVED", "SOLUTION" or similar.
BTW, what's your real name?
cu
Stefan
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Bug: Score clockskround to -128 when first part bonus applied

murraypaul2002 <paul <at> murray.net>
2003-06-01 19:34:39 GMT

If you add a download at maximum score (127), the +1 for first part
is applied, and the first part gets a score of -128. I don't think
that should happen.
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Re: Could BNR2 do this?

jsnavely.geo <jsnavely.geo <at> yahoo.com>
2003-06-02 00:14:42 GMT

--- In bnr1 <at> yahoogroups.com, "Dustin Rodriguez" <drodriguez <at> m...> wrote:
> In order for BNR2 to know the article numbers for the articles you
> marked for download, you have to download the headers from each
> server. In theory, BNR could just connect to the servers and try
> to request the article by its unique Message-ID, but right now it
> cannot do that.
>
> Dustin Rodriguez
BNR2 does now have the ability to download by Message-ID, it just doesn't have any means of keeping track of
which servers to try and which it has already tried other than by Article-ID's stored in the Server-Group tables.
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