Things are heating up too! A few malotov cocktails, teargas coming in. I;m getting another beer

Daybreak now and things are settling down it seems, but more and more people keep pouring in as they wake up. Looks organized too, every few minutes vans and motorbikes drive up and drop people off, then drive off presumably to pick up more people.

Ive been monitoring this on a few other forums, but farkers seem more interested in discusing romney or trolls. I have a feeling we are gonna wake up to some interesting news

tinfoil-hat maggie:Sabyen91: Karma Curmudgeon: Sabyen91: I am not sure I would recognize their hallmarks.

From what I can gather it was just a mob scene. No suicide bombers or paramilitary units. Not timed to coincide with any other attack. Angry mob isn't really what they do.

The fact that they died of smoke inhalation might be a strike against the al qaeda theory. I just don't think they tie themselves to one tactic, though. I am not sure what to think on who instigated what.

Wait, I've only read the ambassador died of smoke inhalation, I have no idea on the other three, any links? And there are lots of article's of RPG's being fired at the consulate and gunman battling Libyan security forces for some reports say hours. Even the administration seems to be saying the attackers used the cover of the protestesters.

I had heard they all did. I don't have a link. It might not have been the case. It is frustrating how little information is available and how much of it is noise.

We should be supplying these people with radios and TVs and broadcast American Top 40 and Three's Company reruns and al-jazeera 24/7.

I'm not kidding. Don't forget:

When reporters asked the Alexandria protesters why they were attacking Secretary Clinton's motorcade, they said that according to the internet, Clinton had manipulated the Egyptian election to favor the Muslim Brotherhood candidate Mohamed Morsi, who won the presidency.

Sabyen91:The fact that they died of smoke inhalation might be a strike against the al qaeda theory. I just don't think they tie themselves to one tactic, though. I am not sure what to think on who instigated what.

Me, neither. They don't stick to one tactic, but the head office likes showy stuff and they almost always take ownership of an attack. But I was also unaware of Al-Awhateverhisnameis' statement yesterday. And now I'm listening to Maddow say it started with a truckful of armed guys initiating the assault so ya, I'm guessing so now.

The Mossad is causing these riots. They know this would weaken Obama and give Romney a shot at winning. If Romney wins, he'll attack Iran and support Israel in doing so.Oh don't be shy, just come out and say how much you hate jews. You're not alone (especially on FARK)

In a telephone interview Tuesday with The Wall Street Journal, a man identifying himself as Mr. Bacile said he was a 52-year-old Israeli-American real-estate developer in California who raised $5 million from 100 Jewish donors to promote the film.

He characterized the film as a political effort to call attention to the hypocrisies of Islam. It has been promoted by Terry Jones, the Florida pastor whose burning of Qurans previously saparked deadly riots around the world.

Sam Bacile, an Israeli-american film maker directed and produced the video.

Update on that: The film-maker has gone missing, and evidence shows that his real name is probably not Sam Bacile, and he is probably not an Israeli.

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I wouldn't be at all surprised if a Romney SuperPAC was behind this. That would certainly explain Mitten's shiat-eating smirk at his press conference.

The Mossad is causing these riots. They know this would weaken Obama and give Romney a shot at winning. If Romney wins, he'll attack Iran and support Israel in doing so.Oh don't be shy, just come out and say how much you hate jews. You're not alone (especially on FARK)

In a telephone interview Tuesday with The Wall Street Journal, a man identifying himself as Mr. Bacile said he was a 52-year-old Israeli-American real-estate developer in California who raised $5 million from 100 Jewish donors to promote the film.

He characterized the film as a political effort to call attention to the hypocrisies of Islam. It has been promoted by Terry Jones, the Florida pastor whose burning of Qurans previously sparked deadly riots around the world.

Sam Bacile, an Israeli-american film maker directed and produced the video.

Except no record of the guy can be found, no one's ever heard of him, his references are bogus, and so on...

Sabyen91: The fact that they died of smoke inhalation might be a strike against the al qaeda theory. I just don't think they tie themselves to one tactic, though. I am not sure what to think on who instigated what.

Me, neither. They don't stick to one tactic, but the head office likes showy stuff and they almost always take ownership of an attack. But I was also unaware of Al-Awhateverhisnameis' statement yesterday. And now I'm listening to Maddow say it started with a truckful of armed guys initiating the assault so ya, I'm guessing so now.

According to AP Ansar al-Sharia claimed credit. That would make more sense as it is a local terrorist group and would take much less planning in response to that idiotic movie.

The Mossad is causing these riots. They know this would weaken Obama and give Romney a shot at winning. If Romney wins, he'll attack Iran and support Israel in doing so.Oh don't be shy, just come out and say how much you hate jews. You're not alone (especially on FARK)

In a telephone interview Tuesday with The Wall Street Journal, a man identifying himself as Mr. Bacile said he was a 52-year-old Israeli-American real-estate developer in California who raised $5 million from 100 Jewish donors to promote the film.

He characterized the film as a political effort to call attention to the hypocrisies of Islam. It has been promoted by Terry Jones, the Florida pastor whose burning of Qurans previously sparked deadly riots around the world.

Sam Bacile, an Israeli-american film maker directed and produced the video.

Except no record of the guy can be found, no one's ever heard of him, his references are bogus, and so on...

Yeah, it was clearly a made up identity. For all I know he could have been Mossad, or a fundamentalist Christian or a sleeper Muslim.

/Or just some douche that doesn't want to be killed for being a total douche.

Lorelle:Kit Fister: Because teabaggers are all dumb, ignorant folks worthy of endless derision and scorn for their free expression of political thought mindlessly parroting everything spewed by Faux News, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and every other conservative propagandist.

FTFY

Yes, because nothing engenders support for your platform and beliefs like mercilessly tearing down other people for what they believe, rather than educating...

Kit Fister:Lorelle: Kit Fister: Because teabaggers are all dumb, ignorant folks worthy of endless derision and scorn for their free expression of political thought mindlessly parroting everything spewed by Faux News, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and every other conservative propagandist.

FTFY

Yes, because nothing engenders support for your platform and beliefs like mercilessly tearing down other people for what they believe, rather than educating...

So what happens when what others believe is so idiotic that education itself tears it down mercilessly?

You know, I think Ambassador Stevens would have been proud of this "counter-protest" and the progress this it represents. Can you imagine Libyans being able to do this a year ago? Do you recognize the absolute monumental step this represents?

In an odd way, this may be the most fitting tribute to the ambassador.

Nah, you'd just need the glass parking lot. No one would go to the funerals because all the relatives of those inbred motherfarkers all live in the same area.

Oh well, so much for tolerance.

West Virginia is a national laughingstock for a reason.

Because they're unlucky enough to be economically disadvantaged, land locked in a mountain range, and don't have the same access to trade and employment as the rest of the country?

I'm not saying that their lives are worth as much as that of a person, just curious to see how the double standard works.

My people are from W. Virginia. It's on their behalf that I routinely say that the concept that "whites have it easy in America" has absolutely destroyed Appalachia. There is no "United White Trash College Fund" and yet people from the hills need assistance obtaining higher education at least as much as the kids who have the United Negro College Fund.

Posting a picture of me has to be a violation of Fark protocol. Jefferson said when a government fails it is the duty of the people to take over. I'm thinking the families and friends of this big mob won't be rushing to turn them in. This is a case where it's important to consider if these were your father and brothers. Educated, and strong enough to go to Lybia to build bridges. Then this. Signs are nice. Action counts.

yea well, me and my friends will send you some pics of us Americans drinking beer and holding up stupid placards while being sorry for looking at all those pictures of you dead Libyans after we bomb the f*ck out you. will that make it better?

oh wait, Obama is a big pacifist pussy afraid to use American force on terrorists.

keep telling yourselves that, pussies. US naval power is gathering off your coast at this very moment. I can only hope you have the balls to come out and play.

Kit Fister:Void_Beavis: Kit Fister: Lorelle: Kit Fister: Because teabaggers are all dumb, ignorant folks worthy of endless derision and scorn for their free expression of political thought mindlessly parroting everything spewed by Faux News, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and every other conservative propagandist.

FTFY

Yes, because nothing engenders support for your platform and beliefs like mercilessly tearing down other people for what they believe, rather than educating...

So what happens when what others believe is so idiotic that education itself tears it down mercilessly?

I'm looking at you, anti - evolution people...

If you can't reason with them, ignore them. Acting like a childhood bully because you don't agree with their views only diminishes you.

I refused to vote for any democrat because of behavior like this. If your party is manned by people who snarkishly rip on others, I want no part of that.

Thats a pretty noble world view, and I commend you for that.

Just to be clear, I am not a democrat. Not am I a republican.

With that being said, don't you feel the spreading of disinformation and misleading generations of people down paths paved with lies to further your political agenda is wrong? Why don't you feel a moral obligation to step in and try to stop it?

Degenz:yea well, me and my friends will send you some pics of us Americans drinking beer and holding up stupid placards while being sorry for looking at all those pictures of you dead Libyans after we bomb the f*ck out you. will that make it better?

oh wait, Obama is a big pacifist pussy afraid to use American force on terrorists.

keep telling yourselves that, pussies. US naval power is gathering off your coast at this very moment. I can only hope you have the balls to come out and play.

I was working with what little information I had which was portraying the scene at the consulate as a mob. Some of us have things to do during the day, you know. I'll have you know I was busy all day today raging and laughing at Mitt Romney.

bdub77:what exactly is your proof that atheism is any better than organized religion?

Because atheism is a persistant constant and religion is an arbitrary variable. If all of human knowledge was lost, erased, reset, everything an atheist 'believes' in would be recreated, math, science, technology, logic, humanism, all would re-emerge. Religion would only manifest in some random pointless haphazard cobbled together amalgam of fear and ignorance.

Nina_Hartley's_Ass:Sabyen91: Name_Omitted: Sabyen91: I had heard they all did. I don't have a link. It might not have been the case. It is frustrating how little information is available and how much of it is noise.

You may find this piece from al Jazeera helpful.

Thanks but that didn't help at all. I had heard all of that but even that article could be summed up as...we have no farking clue who this guy is. Is it Sadek? Jones?

Nina_Hartley's_Ass:Sabyen91: Name_Omitted: Sabyen91: I had heard they all did. I don't have a link. It might not have been the case. It is frustrating how little information is available and how much of it is noise.

You may find this piece from al Jazeera helpful.

Thanks but that didn't help at all. I had heard all of that but even that article could be summed up as...we have no farking clue who this guy is. Is it Sadek? Jones?

"Bacile" looks to be Nakoula Basseley Nakoula

Wow. Thanks. Coptic makes sense. What an asshole...not my fault they didn't have a platoon to protect them. fark him.

Because atheism is a persistant constant and religion is an arbitrary variable. If all of human knowledge was lost, erased, reset, everything an atheist 'believes' in would be recreated, math, science, technology, logic, humanism, all would re-emerge. Religion would only manifest in some random pointless haphazard cobbled together amalgam of fear and ignorance.

How open minded of you.

See this is where I fall off the rails with aithiests. While on one hand I applaud the insistence on scientific method, while on the other hand I can't quite get over the snarky denial of the fact that there are commonalities amongst all religion that provide interesting points of study which may be relevant to the human existence. Such commonalities may in fact point to the existence of a being or beings superior to humans who may play a role in setting up the parameters of the observable universe.

Don't you find that whole denial at the very least bit unscientific at a basic premise?

You think their English is bad, try going to Tennessee sometime. Here tar isn't the black stuff that's mixed with gravel and used to pave roads. Tar is one of those round things people put on their cars. Why were you late? I had a flat tar. We've all heard of flares, the signal devices sent up by a small rocket. Here flares grow on the side of the road or in someone's yard. He grows the prettiest flares in town. Then there's war. Here it's something usually made of copper. Why didn't you call? The copper thieves stole half a mile of telephone war again.

PaLarkin:You think their English is bad, try going to Tennessee sometime. Here tar isn't the black stuff that's mixed with gravel and used to pave roads. Tar is one of those round things people put on their cars. Why were you late? I had a flat tar. We've all heard of flares, the signal devices sent up by a small rocket. Here flares grow on the side of the road or in someone's yard. He grows the prettiest flares in town. Then there's war. Here it's something usually made of copper. Why didn't you call? The copper thieves stole half a mile of telephone war again.

Void_Beavis:Serious Post on Serious Thread: bdub77: what exactly is your proof that atheism is any better than organized religion?

Because atheism is a persistant constant and religion is an arbitrary variable. If all of human knowledge was lost, erased, reset, everything an atheist 'believes' in would be recreated, math, science, technology, logic, humanism, all would re-emerge. Religion would only manifest in some random pointless haphazard cobbled together amalgam of fear and ignorance.

How open minded of you.

See this is where I fall off the rails with aithiests. While on one hand I applaud the insistence on scientific method, while on the other hand I can't quite get over the snarky denial of the fact that there are commonalities amongst all religion that provide interesting points of study which may be relevant to the human existence. Such commonalities may in fact point to the existence of a being or beings superior to humans who may play a role in setting up the parameters of the observable universe.

Don't you find that whole denial at the very least bit unscientific at a basic premise?

I dunno man...

Actually your commonalities argument isn't persuasive or particularly scientific. As a matter of fact the evidence might become less persuasive BECAUSE of commonalities. Religions often co-opt myths from previous religions.

The Mossad is causing these riots. They know this would weaken Obama and give Romney a shot at winning. If Romney wins, he'll attack Iran and support Israel in doing so.Oh don't be shy, just come out and say how much you hate jews. You're not alone (especially on FARK)

In a telephone interview Tuesday with The Wall Street Journal, a man identifying himself as Mr. Bacile said he was a 52-year-old Israeli-American real-estate developer in California who raised $5 million from 100 Jewish donors to promote the film.

He characterized the film as a political effort to call attention to the hypocrisies of Islam. It has been promoted by Terry Jones, the Florida pastor whose burning of Qurans previously sparked deadly riots around the world.

Sam Bacile, an Israeli-american film maker directed and produced the video.

With one hundred jewish financers. Not saying Isreal was behind it, but it is a decidedly jewish source.