If your talking about the original AK-47's issued in 1949, you MIGHT be correct. Although some of our Vietnam vets may have some experience with the real deal. Though the enemy more than likely had Chinese versions, a few Russians may have been in the mix.

And there may be a few others around here who have some experience with a real AK-47.

AK's are pretty tough. I wouldn't be surprised if the Taliban and the Northern Alliance both have the real McCoy in use.

Sorry, but I have not only seen one I have shot the real deal.It was owned a a SGT that I served with at Fort Knox.BTW it was a blast to let it rip through a whole clip(I couldn't hit much that way)but it was fun!Damn am I that Old? It's time for my nap now.

When I was in the service, I put a few rounds through a Russian AK47 (milled reciever), a Russian AKM (Stamped Reciever), AKM with folding stock (Bulgarian I think) and an Russian SVD (missing Scope). I liked that SVD alot. I also got to play with an RPG (didn't get to fire it).I remember being surpised by how heavy the AK's were. Larry

Originally Posted By Tonys68l36:Soooooooo like another poster asked..whats your point?

The point is, words mean things. When you say "M16" but mean Colt SP1, DPMS panther bull, or Bushmaster XM15E2S you dumb down this board. Infact it is the same thing we complain about when the media calls a MAK-90 an "AK47".

Many have fired a AK-series rifle, or AK-type rifle. Very few have ever fired an actual AK-47. If us RKI cant get the terms straight, then we can never epect the media or John Q. Public to understand the difference.

so with that reasoning the b17 i saw at an airshow was not in fact a b17 because it did not have real machine guns or bombs. however i did see a REAL b29. i have seen a real mg42, which is much cooler than an ak, oops, i mean AK-47.

AR15_Type_Fan,That is stupid! There are plenty of AK-47's out there! I agree about the AKMs, etc, but to ASSume that no one has seen or shot one is asanine! I shot an RPK, and a full auto AK-47. The AK-47 may not have been built in 1949, but it was an AK!!!

AK-47: From about 1947-1949 (or so). Stamped receiver. Not many made, few left the USSR.

AK-47-1: From 1948-1958. Milled receiver, because of problems with the original stamped ones. Around one million or so. Few left the USSR.

AKM: From 1958 to the 1980s. Stamped receiver. Most of the Soviet troops armed with AKs carried these. Most of the weapons exported by the Soviets were AKMs. Most of the Communist Bloc-manufactured AKs were AKMs or AKM variants (like the Chines Type 56, the Polish and Yugoslavian AKs and so on).

AK-74 (and associated weapons). Mid 1970s on.

Technically, he is probably right, because very few actual "AK-47"s were actually produced, and most never left the Soviet Union. The weapon that has been erroneously referred to in the press and in military publications for the last fifty years as the "AK-47" is actually the AKM.

This is all well and good, but.... The media hates your rifle REGUARDLESS if it is a "real" AK-47 or M-16 or not. They make no distinction between the verious models or veriants. They are ignorant about the subject and even if they weren't, they would still call a MAK-90 an AK-47. They will call it an AK-47 (or an M-16 or an AR-15) because just about everyone can identify with these weapons common names. They do not know your rifle is a XM15A2 or a SAR-1. As far as they are concerned, you will always have an AK-47 and an Ar-15 "assult rifle" (they NEVER leave that part out, no matter if it is correct or not).

Any attempt at Polical correctness to placate the media is wasted effert. To them you will always be a dangerous gun nut just waiting for the chance to shoot up a mall. You can be damn sure they will take every opportunity to remind you and the general public of this also....

AK-47: From about 1947-1949 (or so). Stamped receiver. Not many made, few left the USSR.

AK-47-1: From 1948-1958. Milled receiver, because of problems with the original stamped ones. Around one million or so. Few left the USSR.

AKM: From 1958 to the 1980s. Stamped receiver. Most of the Soviet troops armed with AKs carried these. Most of the weapons exported by the Soviets were AKMs. Most of the Communist Bloc-manufactured AKs were AKMs or AKM variants (like the Chines Type 56, the Polish and Yugoslavian AKs and so on).

AK-74 (and associated weapons). Mid 1970s on.

Technically, he is probably right, because very few actual "AK-47"s were actually produced, and most never left the Soviet Union. The weapon that has been erroneously referred to in the press and in military publications for the last fifty years as the "AK-47" is actually the AKM.

How nitpicky do we wanna get? The name AR-15 is owned by Colt (as on their website, stating so) So if we have any other make, we dont belong here? Names become generic, after a while...scotch tape, handi-wrap, Q-tips to name a few, but we know what is meant, regardless of brand name or configuration...picky, picky. Mine says COLT, but its not a true AR-15, so I better leave.

Originally Posted By natez:Technically, he is probably right, because very few actual "AK-47"s were actually produced, and most never left the Soviet Union.

Technically, he's right. But then, technically i'm not allowed on this forum because i have a Colt XM177E2 (Not technically an AR15), An Armalite M15A2 NM (Also not technically an AR15) and a Bushmaster XM15 E2S V Match 20" Rifle (Again, not technically an AR15) back in the Phillipines.

This has gooten *slightly* out of hand. We're supposed to be on the same side, not nit-picking each other.Even the media reporters in Asia that I've been listening to are starting to call them "Kalashnikov's" since they don't know the exact type or flavor.

Originally Posted By fuzzy_dba:This has gooten *slightly* out of hand. We're supposed to be on the same side, not nit-picking each other.Even the media reporters in Asia that I've been listening to are starting to call them "Kalashnikov's" since they don't know the exact type or flavor.

Lets get along and leave this one alone, it's a dead issue.

true, true. So what if most of the world calls the AKM an AK-47. It's not like it makes a big difference to the target. If we are going to be really pedantic with guns, i shouldn't be here cause i don't live with my ARs anymore (Semi-Auto rifles are illegal in Australia).

This has gotten out of hand. All this was, since the beginning, was a flame war!!!

The next thing he will post is that no one has every shot a AR-15 since the first one was a full auto by Stoner for testing and the rest are copys in semi. Or, that the only true FAL is the T-48 used in testing.

If he had his way, this site would be called:www.ar-15-piss-poor-copy.com

End of line.

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