Just heard the beginning of Match of the Day 2 Extra. Welcome to Villa Park home of today's only fixture. I think Leeds United and Birmingham City might have something to say about that let alone anyone else who's playing today. Also yesterday afternoon they went for a report from Huish Park where the Championship's two most southerly clubs were playing each other. Clearly AFC Bournemouth don't count.

Already covered to an extent in other threads, but on Football focus even Dan Walker has just said that The FA Cup has already kicked off with last nights meeting of The 1987 & 1988 Cup winners.Yeah Right Dan

The commentator at Shortwood United v. Port Vale managed to refer to them as Shortwood Town and Southwood United.

Not only that, he (Darren Fletcher) informed us that Port Vale's Ashley Griffiths was the capital of Montserrat, that one of the forthcoming advertised matches was to be seen on Sky Sports (that would have pleased BT immensely, I'd have thought), that the ground had only 50 seats (I'm sure the Southern League demand more than that) and that the players just play for petrol money - which may be true. And as for tired ill-researched cliches well, that's what the FA Cup is all about (said about a dozen times. A truly dire commentating performance with whinger Colin interjecting at regular intervals.

Noticed ITV commentator running through the Bishop Stortford line up with their job titles displayed for the Northampton game. Another example of yet again Stereotyping non-league football

It's a bit harsh to call this stereotyping. It is factual reporting giving additional information to viewers. That's what commentators are supposed to do. I suppose they could have balanced it out by having captions describing all the Northampton players as 'footballers' (although based on their season so far that might be misleading ).

The commentator at Shortwood United v. Port Vale managed to refer to them as Shortwood Town and Southwood United.

Not only that, he (Darren Fletcher) informed us that Port Vale's Ashley Griffiths was the capital of Montserrat, that one of the forthcoming advertised matches was to be seen on Sky Sports (that would have pleased BT immensely, I'd have thought), that the ground had only 50 seats (I'm sure the Southern League demand more than that) and that the players just play for petrol money - which may be true. And as for tired ill-researched cliches well, that's what the FA Cup is all about (said about a dozen times. A truly dire commentating performance with whinger Colin interjecting at regular intervals.

Must have confused him with Plymouth! They also said that he qualified for Montserrat because of his father. This is not strictly true, as Montserrat is a Crown Colony, anyone with a UK passport can play for them, the same applies to Bermuda, Turks and Caicos Islands, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands and probably Gibraltar too. As for the 50 seats, I noticed that one stand had the TV gantry placed in front of it and was unoccupied, not sure how many seats are in the main Howard Webb stand. Apparently the Howard and Webb families have contributed a lot towards Shortwood over the years and have therefore had a stand named after them. Not a case of Manyoo fans naming the stand after one of their major benefactors.

Must have confused him with Plymouth! They also said that he qualified for Montserrat because of his father. This is not strictly true, as Montserrat is a Crown Colony, anyone with a UK passport can play for them, the same applies to Bermuda, Turks and Caicos Islands, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands and probably Gibraltar too.

Not actually correct, FIFA demand a residence or birth connection with the territory. In 2000, the Cayman Islands thought of this, and tried to recruit a team without connections to the Islands before a World Cup game with Cuba. They persuaded Wayne Allison, Ged Brannan, David Barnett, Martin O'Connor, Dwayne Plummer, Barry Hayles, Neville Roach and Neil Sharpe to "sign" for them. All except Allison played for the Caymans in a friendly match against DC United, (DC won 5-0). FIFA informed them that the players were ineligible and they did not appear in any full internationals, with the exception of Barry Hayles who won ten caps with Jamaica

Did he refer to Ashley Griffiths?, or Anthony Griffith - the Port Vale player who captained Montserrat during their last two world cup games, but did not play in last years Caribbean Cup qualification games.

Did he refer to Ashley Griffiths?, or Anthony Griffith - the Port Vale player who captained Montserrat during their last two world cup games, but did not play in last years Caribbean Cup qualification games.

Noticed ITV commentator running through the Bishop Stortford line up with their job titles displayed for the Northampton game. Another example of yet again Stereotyping non-league football

It's a bit harsh to call this stereotyping. It is factual reporting giving additional information to viewers. That's what commentators are supposed to do. I suppose they could have balanced it out by having captions describing all the Northampton players as 'footballers' (although based on their season so far that might be misleading ).

It's patronising to say the least to your everyday football fan. Surely any football fan with even half a brain would know that that the Bishop's Stortford players would have other jobs.

I don't think it's offensive that they list their jobs. It's more annoying when they describe them all as plumbers and postmen when they're not. It doesn't really bother me that people focusing on the professional leagues come out with (often inaccurate) clichés, I get more annoyed by people who know a little bit and therefore consider themselves officianados and spout all sorts of myths. A friend of mine 'loves the FA Cup because any team in England can enter'. I point out clubs local to us who cannot and she suggests I'm being ridiculous because obviously 'those are just amateur clubs - they don't count'.