Using a forum that is privately owned, and maintianed for advertising, should be a paid privalage.

I run a snowboard forum and always think of it as such,

It is like a bar, lots of people talking about what ever they would like. But if I don't like what they are talking about I have the right to ask them to leave, cuz it is my bar........

If you don;t like that you can't drink at my bar to bad find another one, buy your own booze and drink alone at home, or follow my rules and you are welcome back to my bar...

If switch Kites are so good the community will discover so and they will grow as a brand.

I am tired of reading post with the same people posting "I have switched, have you" In topics that have nothing to do with switch kites.....

I am a North Athlete. I could post In every post that North are better and you should ride them, but then I would just be a pimp instead I post about the kites I have flown and under topics I have experance with, Not every post about kites with how North gear is better....

I don't even want to try Switch kites becuase of all the switch pimping on this forum.....and I love to fly all kites and respect, their kite designer, but knowing that they don't even employee the guy but pay him to cunsult seems interesting also.

All you folks better listen up, this guy Billy is someone who really understands this sport. I appreciate the time he takes to answer peoples questions, I always learn something when he posts. The pimping needs to be moderated....

Lighter and cheaper kites and boards are the future, for sure. I am happy to see a new company that understands this. But blatant brand cheerleading is misleading, and this forum is so diluted with brand pimps that it is becoming very boring. Now that we all understand how it got this way, lets change it to something more enjoyable to read.

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That was perfectly well said Billy B. I don't think any one could of said this better. The only problem with me is that I don't drink any alcohol but when you open your own bar I will come and get some orange juice or a ginger ale, so I can support your bar.Snow season is starting, can you tell me how much it will cost for a banner on your snowboard forum? You can always email me at dimitri@epickites.com I am in China right now working on few different projects.

Now that is some FUNNY SHIT! In the time it took me to write my post, Dimitri posted his. I had no knowledge he was gonna troll this one too! Ha. I thought I'd be writing something in a forum he would only come across while searching for his brand's name. But he actually posted in the time it took me to write. Trollin' from China!

Kites might be great, but when is he going to realize he turns off potential customers with his ambulance chasing style hard sell? There is a good reason all the other brands don't push so hard -- credibility being one.

I think many are missing the big picture. This is not just about Switch. I posted a video which I really liked and Toby kindly explained that he had to delete it because the kite brand did not support the site.

Toby's has the right to run this forum as he whishes. That is clear! The problem is that many people just like me were not aware of this filtering and pay to post going on and that is misleading. I always though this was "The kiteforum" and not Toby's kiteforum...

I realize it is work and different persons see it in different ways but as long as everyone knows why some threads get more traffic than others there is no problem.

Poster: droffatsGlad I haven't had to deal with the "made the switch?" crap. But why isn't Toby doing more about the same crap from the Epic trolls? "are you ready for an epic ride?"- Droffats

Hello droffats. This is a good question. A better question is: ARE YOU READY? I think I can answer this question better then any one. Toby is allowed to do what ever he wants, it's his bar and I usually come to his bar to get a way from work and have some ginger ale or even milk since I don't drink any alcohol, but I like to support his bar because of all the people that go there to talk about different things. But work always finds me with people asking questions about kiting such as:-How I started kiting. -What was the worst accident it ever happened to me. -What is the best way to start kiteboarding. -What are the best places to go kiting in the world. -How are you able to answer to all your customers and still spend time with your wife and kids, and kite?-I tried the EPIC kite and loved it. My wife is getting one for me for Christmas. -How do I deal with people bashing you like that on the forums, don't they have anything else to do then be all negative!!! Are they jealous!!!!-Why no one else comes out and help people like you do!!! -I heard you tough Senator John Kerry a long time ago, how was that!!, Do you still do private lessons?-I heard the heavy weight Boxer Champion Vladimir Petukhin loves your Epic kites. How this happened!!!and so on.So in few words I am here to help and promote KITEBOARDING on any forums.

P.S. Drinks are on me tonight guys....... Yes droffats and Kamikuza even you guys can have a drink on me. And please No Smoking.

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