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05/28/06 18:42:52DougSymington: hey dave05/28/06 18:48:06dave: hey doug05/28/06 18:48:14dave: not expecting a big crowd05/28/06 18:48:19dave: forgot it was memorial day weekend05/28/06 18:48:24DougSymington: right05/28/06 18:48:50DougSymington: just reading 'bout "oriellyism" at the link you posted05/28/06 18:48:57DougSymington: and the comments05/28/06 18:49:02DougSymington: interesting stuff05/28/06 18:50:20DougSymington: hi me05/28/06 18:50:43me: hey05/28/06 18:51:19dave: who do you figure me is?05/28/06 18:51:39dave: hilarious05/28/06 18:52:37DougSymington: not sure--who was me?05/28/06 18:52:42dave: oh no05/28/06 18:52:47dave: maybe he was on first05/28/06 18:53:30DougSymington: has the hockey game started yet?05/28/06 18:53:50dave: not sure05/28/06 18:53:57dave: not much of a hockey guy I'm afraid05/28/06 18:53:57DougSymington: I think it's buffalo and carolina for Game 5 for tonight's tilt05/28/06 18:53:59dave: love to play05/28/06 18:54:19DougSymington: there you go05/28/06 18:54:28DougSymington: the strike really killed it for me05/28/06 18:54:36DougSymington: good to see the Oil in the final tho05/28/06 18:54:39dave: as for so many others05/28/06 18:56:14dave: +9900111000958381205/28/06 18:56:18dave: skypecast05/28/06 18:56:26dave: wanna jump in?05/28/06 18:56:39dave: i am very short of peeps as you can tell05/28/06 18:56:50dave: not that you would be a last choice or anything05/28/06 18:56:56dave: :)05/28/06 18:57:32DougSymington: on my way05/28/06 19:01:22dave: comin' at ya doug05/28/06 19:07:52DougSymington: I'm gonna reboot and try skype again05/28/06 19:13:59JasonRobertshaw: Nicholas Carr's perspective: http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2006/05/opensource_trad.php05/28/06 19:15:33bon: what are the irish conference folks doing about this brouhaha?05/28/06 19:15:51JasonRobertshaw: Unless Doug is cleverly echoing everything you say :)05/28/06 19:16:36dave: what's your skype id jason?05/28/06 19:18:33JasonRobertshaw: No skypy for me at the moment...but in the future it's "cephalopodcast"05/28/06 19:20:32JasonRobertshaw: O'reilly et al. trademarked the term "Web 2.0" shortly after it was coined. It was generic when they started the trademark process as I understand it.05/28/06 19:20:43JasonRobertshaw: It was not generic05/28/06 19:22:29JasonRobertshaw: BoingBoing and Cory Doctorow respond: http://www.boingboing.net/2006/05/26/can_anyone_own_web_2.html05/28/06 19:25:37JasonRobertshaw: Sorry, according to Cory Doctorow, "O'Reilly exec Dale Dougherty coined the term Web 2.0, and O'Reilly used it for a line of very successful conferences chaired by Boing Boing's business manager, John Battelle (I've been a speaker at Web 2.0 as well, and found the con to be an amazing, eye-opening experience)."05/28/06 19:25:44JasonRobertshaw: :)05/28/06 19:27:05JasonRobertshaw: "Still pissed off..." Yeah, but their Irish ;)05/28/06 19:27:49dave: http://www.allbusiness.com/periodicals/article/383501-1.html05/28/06 19:30:07Harold_Jarche: hi guys05/28/06 19:30:16DougSymington: Hey Harold05/28/06 19:31:13JasonRobertshaw: You go Dave!05/28/06 19:33:18Harold_Jarche: Harold 2.0 here05/28/06 19:33:25dave: lol05/28/06 19:34:13JasonRobertshaw: But isn't it only generic in hindsight?05/28/06 19:34:17DougSymington: funny Harold, hi Brad05/28/06 19:34:33Harold_Jarche: is there a difference between a trade mark and a service mark ( that's the term o'reilly used)05/28/06 19:34:34Brad_Hicks: hey guys05/28/06 19:36:17bon: is the term servicemark his own? or where else is it used?05/28/06 19:36:18JasonRobertshaw: According to Nick Carr, "servicemarks are trademarks (applied to services rather than goods)"05/28/06 19:36:23bon: thanks jason05/28/06 19:36:44dave: http://www.allbusiness.com/periodicals/article/383501-1.html05/28/06 19:36:46dave: one more time05/28/06 19:36:52Harold_Jarche: any lawyers in the house?05/28/06 19:37:10DougSymington: O'Reilly needed a test case for EU, that's why05/28/06 19:37:37Harold_Jarche: ah ha05/28/06 19:37:40Brad_Hicks: so maybe we should all just start using a new term for it? - I'm sure it could be coined very quickly via the net - make the term web 2.0 irrelevant! lol05/28/06 19:37:51JasonRobertshaw: What's the alternative? So many people whing at the term Web 2.0 anyway.05/28/06 19:38:00Harold_Jarche: web 4.7?05/28/06 19:38:06JasonRobertshaw: Web 2.105/28/06 19:38:49JasonRobertshaw: So the conferenc schwag will be more collectible?05/28/06 19:38:55DougSymington: lol05/28/06 19:39:00Brad_Hicks: 2.0 web? :p05/28/06 19:39:34DougSymington: BBerr05/28/06 19:39:36DougSymington: y05/28/06 19:39:36JasonRobertshaw: Not a product...a service05/28/06 19:39:48Harold_Jarche: we are not a company - we are a community - much better05/28/06 19:40:05JasonRobertshaw: Agreed, Harold.05/28/06 19:40:57DougSymington: let's have a 'cast from the conf05/28/06 19:41:26JasonRobertshaw: Thanks Tom.05/28/06 19:43:10Brad_Hicks: soldier on dave :-)05/28/06 19:43:20dave: lol05/28/06 19:43:22dave: thanks brad05/28/06 19:46:46DougSymington: http://www.tomrafteryit.net/05/28/06 19:48:35JasonRobertshaw: Tempest in a teapot05/28/06 19:48:47dave: so you've been saying05/28/06 19:48:54dave: i'm not so sure05/28/06 19:49:13dave: it shows, if nothing else, that the response of the community affects policy05/28/06 19:50:00Brad_Hicks: if a company wins on something so ridiculous - more the fools us if we stand by and let it happen05/28/06 19:50:44Brad_Hicks: boycott there products/services05/28/06 19:50:50Brad_Hicks: their*05/28/06 19:51:10DougSymington: Harold, Harold, Harold05/28/06 19:51:54JasonRobertshaw: Still, this reminds me of the mob justice/mentality that digg delivered to PriceRitePhoto05/28/06 19:52:20Brad_Hicks: yep anyone who tries this sort os cr-p05/28/06 19:52:31Brad_Hicks: of*05/28/06 19:53:52JasonRobertshaw: And the response time to put out a fire is microscopic05/28/06 19:54:06JasonRobertshaw: Can't take vacations anymore05/28/06 19:55:23dave: sorry doug05/28/06 19:55:28dave: having trouble getting you05/28/06 19:55:42DougSymington: no prob05/28/06 19:56:15DougSymington: skype's been very tempermental this eve05/28/06 19:56:29dave: it says i already have a conversation going with you05/28/06 19:56:44DougSymington: got a busy when I tried you05/28/06 19:57:04Brad_Hicks: gppd point harold05/28/06 19:57:14Brad_Hicks: good point05/28/06 19:57:23DougSymington: I've put it to bed for the night, enjoying the stream05/28/06 19:57:37dave: http://www.tomrafteryit.net/cory-doctorow-oreilly-apologist/05/28/06 20:00:26dave: thank you chatroom05/28/06 20:00:35dave: jason we need to argue about this further05/28/06 20:00:51Brad_Hicks: Thanks Dave05/28/06 20:00:51DougSymington: great show, look forward to the next go 'round05/28/06 20:01:00JasonRobertshaw: 'kay. I'll try to remember to bring my mic home next time.05/28/06 20:01:31DougSymington: thanks all, have a great week05/28/06 20:01:55Brad_Hicks: any post show?05/28/06 20:02:04JasonRobertshaw: I prefer to think of myself as irregular05/28/06 20:02:09dave: lol05/28/06 20:02:11DougSymington: keep Thursday night open--we can use the BStorm time...05/28/06 20:02:12DougSymington: lol05/28/06 20:02:15dave: perhaps more fiber05/28/06 20:02:19DougSymington: good one calamari05/28/06 20:02:28DougSymington: cya y'all soon05/28/06 20:03:19JasonRobertshaw: See, corps can't take vacations.05/28/06 20:03:27JasonRobertshaw: Always on.05/28/06 20:04:03JasonRobertshaw: I'll be in Second Life for a little while05/28/06 20:04:09JasonRobertshaw: Bye05/28/06 20:04:15Brad_Hicks: np dave , hope the little guy is doing well05/28/06 20:04:27Brad_Hicks: cya

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