Ahh I see we all here have no clue but you know the real facts. I guess your wrong too Anthony.

We're just coming at it from different angles. Suspended state often brings the RAM dangerously low - moreso in JB'ed phones than stock. That's where I've experienced the biggest problems with this issue. I'm hoping the 1GB of RAM makes the issue moot. Then I'll gladly keep the multitask function on. JB'ed on a 4S, running the tweaks I like/need, it was killing my phone.

Originally Posted by Anthony Bouchard

He's right.

If the app is suspended in the background and you open the app from the springboard rather than the task switcher, it's the same execution.

We're just coming at it from different angles. Suspended state often brings the RAM dangerously low - moreso in JB'ed phones than stock. That's where I've experienced the biggest problems with this issue. I'm hoping the 1GB of RAM makes the issue moot. Then I'll gladly keep the multitask function on. JB'ed on a 4S, running the tweaks I like/need, it was killing my phone.

when the ram runs low, iOS automatically starts shutting apps down to free up required ram. This is the absolute beauty of iOS.

Originally Posted by NewdestinyX

Thats not what I was pushing back on, Anthony.

I think he was taking more offense that I stated that he may not know how is phone works.

when the ram runs low, iOS automatically starts shutting apps down to free up required ram. This is the absolute beauty of iOS.

AND its weakness, King! What you don't realize is that just like OSX, iOS runs smoother with some RAM headroom. The low line for RAM, especially after JB for some reason is too low to keep the phone snappy. I've seen the RAM get down to 15MB with MultiTask on. The phone runs more slowly at that level. There are even tools to watch the efficiency of processes when the RAM is that low. It's not good.

AND its weakness, King! What you don't realize is that just like OSX, iOS runs smoother with some RAM headroom. The low line for RAM, especially after JB for some reason is too low to keep the phone snappy. I've seen the RAM get down to 15MB with MultiTask on. The phone runs more slowly at that level. There are even tools to watch the efficiency of processes when the RAM is that low. It's not good.

AND its weakness, King! What you don't realize is that just like OSX, iOS runs smoother with some RAM headroom. The low line for RAM, especially after JB for some reason is too low to keep the phone snappy. I've seen the RAM get down to 15MB with MultiTask on. The phone runs more slowly at that level. There are even tools to watch the efficiency of processes when the RAM is that low. It's not good.

Those iPhones and iPads at the Apple Store, you know people just open apps and leave it, every app on the device is open and the devices run as smoothly as butter melting down a hill.

Dont change the subject, King. That's a tactic you use when you're losing a debate. . I never said it's damaged my phone. I said many apps in RAM or suspended add to slowing of the phone. They just do. It's very noticeable. Anyone can observe it on a JB phone. Less on stock, which of course, is why the creators of Springtomize created a way to turn off MT.

Those iPhones and iPads at the Apple Store, you know people just open apps and leave it, every app on the device is open and the devices run as smoothly as butter melting down a hill.

On stock it's less notable, Anthony. I agree. The whole reason Springtomize added the turning off of MT was for the jail broken scenario - I believe. We aren't talking stock phones here though I would disagree with you that there's ZERO slowing when the app switcher's full. Why do you think clearing the app switcher is a well known way to get 'headroom' on your phone back though Skull/Orby would tell you - part of that is mythical too. Lest we digress.

On stock it's less notable, Anthony. I agree. The whole reason Springtomize added the turning off of MT was for the jail broken scenario - I believe. We aren't talking stock phones here though I would disagree with you that there's ZERO slowing when the app switcher's full. Why do you think clearing the app switcher is a well known way to get 'headroom' on your phone back though Skull/Orby would tell you - part of that is mythical too. Lest we digress.

I disagree that the jailbreak has anything to do with it. Need I get Ryan Petrich involved in this one?

On stock it's less notable, Anthony. I agree. The whole reason Springtomize added the turning off of MT was for the jail broken scenario - I believe. We aren't talking stock phones here though I would disagree with you that there's ZERO slowing when the app switcher's full. Why do you think clearing the app switcher is a well known way to get 'headroom' on your phone back though Skull/Orby would tell you - part of that is mythical too. Lest we digress.

Worrying about available ram is an old school thing that has been passed along with no basis on iOS.

Originally Posted by Anthony Bouchard

I disagree that the jailbreak has anything to do with it. Need I get Ryan Petrich involved in this one?

I would agree with this 100%. I myself have 9 devices, all with JB and never have a complaint. Believe me my family would tell me if something wasn't working correctly.

We all set up our JB phones differently, right, King? You and your kids use different tweaks according to our needs. When my 4S was loaded with the tweaks I "need" my RAM with the app switcher empty, right after a respring, was 140-167 MB. Open a few apps and it gets down to around 19 to 23MB.. Phone starts runnin slow. "Not good"...

I think we would both agree that on iPhone 5, now with 1GB of RAM, this might be a moot point.

King is correct about how the OS handles the ram. Destiny you are correct also about it being in optimal operating status having less ram being consumed by suspended apps etc. I'm a ram whore also. This was more of an issue for me on older devices. Since the 4s it seems it can handle it and still operate well enough. I still clear mine out though. Something about seeing 300mb+ of ram on my statusbar makes me feel better. I've removed language packs and dameons also to add more ram. Destiny just get one of the several app killers in cydia. Then clear processes in SB settings. (tap on it) that shows you what is actually occupying space and squeezes ram out of it. Usually brings my ram up to 325mb. Then the process begins again. To keep it optimal you'll need to clear processes as it gets full. I've actually come to do it everyday. Just takes a second.

We all set up our JB phones differently, right, King? You and your kids use different tweaks according to our needs. When my 4S was loaded with the tweaks I "need" my RAM with the app switcher empty, right after a respring, was 140-167 MB. Open a few apps and it gets down to around 19 to 23MB.. Phone starts runnin slow. "Not good"...

I think we would both agree that on iPhone 5, now with 1GB of RAM, this might be a moot point.

What is not good about it? Just because you can see a low number and think it needs to be larger for what reason?