King’s world house is still a damn slaughterhouse, because humanism doesn’t challenge the needless confinement, torture, and killing of billions of animals. The humanist non-violent utopia will always remain a hypocritical lie until so-called “enlightened” and “progressive” human beings extend nonviolence, equality, and rights to the animals with whom we share this planet. (source)

King’s world house is still a damn slaughterhouse, because humanism doesn’t challenge the needless confinement, torture, and killing of billions of animals. The humanist non-violent utopia will always remain a hypocritical lie until so-called “enlightened” and “progressive” human beings extend nonviolence, equality, and rights to the animals with whom we share this planet. (source)

“There are many people who feel that it is useless and futile for us to continue talking peace and non-violence — against a government whose only reply is savage attacks on an unarmed and defenseless people. And I think the time has come for us to consider, in the light of our experiences at this day at home, whether the methods which we have applied so far are adequate.” -- Nelson Mandela (source)

Few decades later and the same seems to ring true for animal liberation.

Yeah, no kidding. But not only that; you can hear it over and over again like a broken record and then "how about insects and plants," "if animals kill why can't humans" and on and on. Same old $hit that's been answered zillions of times.

you're right, Ante...same old, same old. ARA's refusing to directly answer serious questions that reveal holes in their logic, common sense and the most basic 'real world' applications.

Regarding Hunting accidents....how does hunting compare to other activities people engage in?

Let's look at same stats:

Soccer is 8 times more likely to cause injury then hunting.Cheerleading? 7 times.

Tennis? Twice as likely to cause injury....

What's causing sports injuries? Let's have a look:

Basketball---13.8%Jogging---8.2 %Golf.....1.4%Hunting....1 %

Now what are the odds that such hunting accidents can lead to death?

Odds a youth between the ages of 6 and 15 will be killed while hunting in a given year? 1 in 200,000.In 2002, a estimated 20.6 million people hunted in america and 93 of these people were killed.In 2001, 1.8 million played organized football; resulting in 21 deaths.The rate of death in organized football is twice that of hunting.

In 2002, 173 children 14 years and younger were killed in bicycle-related accidents.

Another note; fatal firearms-related accidents among both children and the population as a whole has fallen steadily; though the % of the population owning firearms hasn't fallen.

What about all those innocent bystanders being mowed down by the zillion by the hunters?

A nonhunter is 20 times more likely to be killed from stinging insects then a hunter.

We could bring in the discussion whether granting someone a driver's license or a hunter's license will result in more deaths, but I think we all know the answer to that: it's not even close.

"The cold hard fact of the matter is that not only are the vast majority of politicians under the thumbs of powerful serial killers, but are themselves serial killers... The fact that their victims are non-human does not alter the fact that they have no compassion, revel in bloodshed, derive pleasure from another being's suffering, and practice serial killing as a form of entertainment."... (read more)

4) The usualle ARA "All hunters are the same' routine get's used: 'They revel in bloodshed, derive pleasure from another being's suffering...' Same old, Same old.

5) referring to animals... 'Humans are essentially the same." You bet ya....

6) 'Hunters; all armed to the teeth" For bow-hunting? That's real believable....

7) 'Only .8 % of New Jersey population hunts' No mention of how many non-hunters support hunting, though. Classic ARA BS.

'The solution is to make the coucil anti-hunting' Of course! Why didn't we think of this?

9) This I found a laugh: He goes to a local reporter, mumbles god knows what regarding a bow-hunt......then complains it's lying to the people when he's ignored?Jeez. Didn't see that one coming, did we?

10) Regarding the media, he believes the entire nation is 'exceptionally right wing.' Maybe he's comparing our media to North Korea's. I Guess it'd seem rather right wing then.

11) And we get a peek again at the in-fighting among ARA's, to whit: The complaining of a certain ARA-type's salary. Apparently; there's a line past which even ARA's shouldn't be allowed to earn. The writer is a bit vague why that's so and where the line should be drawn. If I were to take a guess, I would say anyone making more money then him is in the wrong.

12) He does get some things right about the abuse of the environment. Kudu's to him for that.