Inyaki wrote:This tune uses a sample of the original.....I don't know how some can claim otherwise.Drums/bass/organ/guitar are sampled. After that they overdubbed guitar/keys/horns...maybe reinforce the kick / drums, etc...plus filtering, maybe tranfering to tape, etc....

All very tastefully done.It sounds fantastic cause is a sample.

That sounds about right, as you know though , it's totally possible to "fake" every track & make everything sound vintage, [without any samples used], not familiar with original version so can't say for sure, yeah it sounds like samples & overdubs, but like i'm saying some people can fake everything.

Get guys like Prince Fatty together with good musicians, tell them play like it's " 72" & it can happen, If everyone knows the sound they are after, it can be done, the whole shebang, everything can sound dated, okay might not fool everyone, that's not the intention though, It's simply capturing & manipulating this vintage sound .

Rodigan is just saying what he is been told. He is not a musician or a producer. Nuff respect to him (selector and Reggae historian ) but like 99% of the selectors, can't spot the difference. Is not their trade.

After listening a few times & checking the links, i must say this is a very well produced track, the loop does sound like the first few bars from Lloyd charmers (ishan cup) as mentioned.

Could someone produce every track from scratch ?......yes of course they could, would be hard to create every detail though, the mono type panning is similar to original, that's why i think its a loop.

Filters & overdubs are really well placed, infact the best i have heard for a while.

Why would a producer claim no samples used ? Well i guess to add interest to the track, some reggae collectors are very fussy about certain things.

I think the first few bars are sampled from the original,Then again if it's proved otherwise, i would not be too surprised as some producers are very good at what they do, add musicians & software together & the possibilities are endless.

Not familiar with Shy FX, but this guy is good, better than many reggae producers, very inspiring actually

Inyaki - Rodigan isnt a musician or producer, but he has a good ear for the music......he is good at identifying musicians just from listening to a song.....so i would've thought he'd be a hard one to blag.....it does seem like Shy FX has blagged him though....

Underated - Shy FX has been big in the Jungle / Drum N Bass world for a while now........listen to Original Nuttah.....that tune was massive over here at the time....

lankou wrote:On a similar note, i still wonder why Bitty McLean's version of Fu Manchu alongside Lee Thompson Ska Orchestra - a brilliant tune -was not released on 7" because, frankly, a good number of people won't be too interested in buying the whole LP.