Looks like all of that doom and gloom from the head Brits may have been overblown. Looks like Britain is on the path to economic recovery according to the latest stats.

That just means we're recovering from the reaction to the referendum. The real ****storm won't start until Article 50 is triggered and the negotiations begin. From there it's all pretty much downhill anyway. Unless the EU is feeling particularly generous, the best we're going to get is a Norway style deal that ultimately costs us more money and takes away our vote in what happens in Europe.

Have some faith. There were successful countries before the EU. There will still be long after it is gone.

A large portion of the planet functions on a regular basis without EU oversight so don't let the pre-exit propoganda keep you from an open mind.

One thing is for sure, the permanent Brexit apocalypse that was being raved about previously never happened.

In any case the UK's divorce from the UK happened, for better or worse. I sincerely hope things keep improving there after the initial dip. I think they will when the world figures out that an independent UK isn't guaranteed to fail.

The UK is also part of NATO. Whether the EU likes it or not, the UK's success and money are necessary for their alliance to remain beneficial.

Callidus Thorn

Sep 6 2016, 11:33 PM

QUOTE(Kiln @ Sep 6 2016, 10:15 PM)

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Sep 6 2016, 06:51 PM)

QUOTE(Kiln @ Sep 6 2016, 05:38 PM)

Looks like all of that doom and gloom from the head Brits may have been overblown. Looks like Britain is on the path to economic recovery according to the latest stats.

That just means we're recovering from the reaction to the referendum. The real ****storm won't start until Article 50 is triggered and the negotiations begin. From there it's all pretty much downhill anyway. Unless the EU is feeling particularly generous, the best we're going to get is a Norway style deal that ultimately costs us more money and takes away our vote in what happens in Europe.

Have some faith. There were successful countries before the EU. There will still be long after it is gone.

A large portion of the planet functions on a regular basis without EU oversight so don't let the pre-exit propoganda keep you from an open mind.

One thing is for sure, the permanent Brexit apocalypse that was being raved about previously never happened.

In any case the UK's divorce from the UK happened, for better or worse. I sincerely hope things keep improving there after the initial dip. I think they will when the world figures out that an independent UK isn't guaranteed to fail.

The UK is also part of NATO. Whether the EU likes it or not, the UK's success and money are necessary for their alliance to remain beneficial.

You sound like you're channeling McB here.

Considering how heavily the economy is weighted towards the EU, facing an unknown level of disengagement from it isn't exactly grounds for optimism. Nor is the fact that the referendum result was followed by a dramatic increase in the number of hate crimes. And don't get me started on the current government...

It's nothing to do with propaganda. The Leave campaign was literally based on lies and (at best)nonsense, and didn't even have an actual plan for leaving the EU. Frankly the entire referendum was a mess from start to finish, both campaigns were jokes that failed to actually make their cases. I'm of the opinion that membership in the EU was beneficial for Britain, though the EU does need to start making some changes.

Article 50 isn't being triggered until next year, and that's the start of the process of leaving the EU, so it's way too early to call this. Previous predictions were made assuming an early triggering of Article 50. Right now everyone's waiting to see if the PM will actually go through with it(sure, she says she will, but it wouldn't be the first time a Conservative PM has lied), and after that for how the negotiations go. That's when things are going to start going pear-shaped. What we're experiencing right now is quite literally the calm before the storm.

As I've said, Article 50 hasn't been triggered yet. Since the referendum took place, nothing has changed in terms of leaving the EU. The UK's "divorce" hasn't happened; we've talked about separating, but the lawyers haven't been called in yet. The process and the negotiations haven't begun, and won't until next year(And there's still debate as to whether or not starting the process can actually be blocked, just to add to this mess). What we've had so far has been nothing more than the reaction to the result of the referendum.

As for the underlined, nor is it guaranteed to succeed. And the farce that UK politics has devolved into since the referendum doesn't inspire optimism.

Perhaps, but that has to be balanced against the EU's desire to keep other countries that are talking about leaving from doing so.

hazmick

Sep 7 2016, 12:28 AM

QUOTE(mALX @ Sep 6 2016, 04:43 PM)

In the US, the "E" at the end of a one syllable word means the word's vowel (in this case the "O" in the middle of the word Scone) makes the "long" vowel sound. (or "says its name")

Some people say it like 'lone', some people say it like 'gone'. I just eat them...the scones, that is...not the people.

mALX

Sep 7 2016, 01:06 AM

QUOTE(hazmick @ Sep 6 2016, 07:28 PM)

QUOTE(mALX @ Sep 6 2016, 04:43 PM)

In the US, the "E" at the end of a one syllable word means the word's vowel (in this case the "O" in the middle of the word Scone) makes the "long" vowel sound. (or "says its name")

Some people say it like 'lone', some people say it like 'gone'. I just eat them...the scones, that is...not the people.

But lets get back to words now for awhile or we might discourage Thorny..

Callidus Thorn

Sep 7 2016, 11:19 AM

Well, I was thinking that things had gotten a little mushy in here

mirocu

Sep 7 2016, 11:25 AM

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Sep 7 2016, 12:19 PM)

Well, I was thinking that things had gotten a little mushy in here

I was more thinking about having discussions via small pictures

Kiln

Sep 7 2016, 11:51 AM

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Sep 6 2016, 10:33 PM)

QUOTE(Kiln @ Sep 6 2016, 10:15 PM)

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Sep 6 2016, 06:51 PM)

QUOTE(Kiln @ Sep 6 2016, 05:38 PM)

Looks like all of that doom and gloom from the head Brits may have been overblown. Looks like Britain is on the path to economic recovery according to the latest stats.

That just means we're recovering from the reaction to the referendum. The real ****storm won't start until Article 50 is triggered and the negotiations begin. From there it's all pretty much downhill anyway. Unless the EU is feeling particularly generous, the best we're going to get is a Norway style deal that ultimately costs us more money and takes away our vote in what happens in Europe.

Have some faith. There were successful countries before the EU. There will still be long after it is gone.

A large portion of the planet functions on a regular basis without EU oversight so don't let the pre-exit propoganda keep you from an open mind.

One thing is for sure, the permanent Brexit apocalypse that was being raved about previously never happened.

In any case the UK's divorce from the UK happened, for better or worse. I sincerely hope things keep improving there after the initial dip. I think they will when the world figures out that an independent UK isn't guaranteed to fail.

The UK is also part of NATO. Whether the EU likes it or not, the UK's success and money are necessary for their alliance to remain beneficial.

You sound like you're channeling McB here.

Considering how heavily the economy is weighted towards the EU, facing an unknown level of disengagement from it isn't exactly grounds for optimism. Nor is the fact that the referendum result was followed by a dramatic increase in the number of hate crimes. And don't get me started on the current government...

It's nothing to do with propaganda. The Leave campaign was literally based on lies and (at best)nonsense, and didn't even have an actual plan for leaving the EU. Frankly the entire referendum was a mess from start to finish, both campaigns were jokes that failed to actually make their cases. I'm of the opinion that membership in the EU was beneficial for Britain, though the EU does need to start making some changes.

Article 50 isn't being triggered until next year, and that's the start of the process of leaving the EU, so it's way too early to call this. Previous predictions were made assuming an early triggering of Article 50. Right now everyone's waiting to see if the PM will actually go through with it(sure, she says she will, but it wouldn't be the first time a Conservative PM has lied), and after that for how the negotiations go. That's when things are going to start going pear-shaped. What we're experiencing right now is quite literally the calm before the storm.

As I've said, Article 50 hasn't been triggered yet. Since the referendum took place, nothing has changed in terms of leaving the EU. The UK's "divorce" hasn't happened; we've talked about separating, but the lawyers haven't been called in yet. The process and the negotiations haven't begun, and won't until next year(And there's still debate as to whether or not starting the process can actually be blocked, just to add to this mess). What we've had so far has been nothing more than the reaction to the result of the referendum.

As for the underlined, nor is it guaranteed to succeed. And the farce that UK politics has devolved into since the referendum doesn't inspire optimism.

Perhaps, but that has to be balanced against the EU's desire to keep other countries that are talking about leaving from doing so.

Well I won't pretend to have to live with the consequences because of where I live so it's not really my fight to have but after all of the "out is out" talk from the EU that the UK will definitely seperate from the EU.

I bet that in a few years the economy will settle and the UK will be just fine without a foreign regulatory body telling it what to set prices at and holding it's leaders hostage if they don't do what the EU says. I think one of the main reasons that the pound fell as substantially as it did is because people were caught off guard by the leave vote and the "everything will descend into chaos if we leave" campaign created a self fulfilling prophecy. Uncertainty is what hurt the pound, not anything that had actually changed.

I guarantee you that there are a great number of countries that will be fine with doing business with the UK after it leaves the EU. Even the EU itself will either have to keep up relations with Britain or risk hurting NATO as a whole by damaging the buying power of the third largest contributor to NATO funding, which I think is unlikely.

My point being, punishing the UK will only hurt the EU in the long run and may damage relations between various countries involved so in my opinion, Britain will be fine.

I'll drop the political discussion since it is obviously a touchy subject but I'm not the only one that thinks that now that the initial shock has happened, the economy will stabilize.

mALX

Sep 7 2016, 12:48 PM

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Sep 7 2016, 06:19 AM)

Well, I was thinking that things had gotten a little mushy in here

It is hard to find pictures of birds and squirrels together, so I have to post whatever I find no matter how squishy!!!!

BWAAHAA !!!!!!

mirocu

Sep 7 2016, 02:39 PM

QUOTE(mALX @ Sep 7 2016, 01:48 PM)

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Sep 7 2016, 06:19 AM)

Well, I was thinking that things had gotten a little mushy in here

It is hard to find pictures of birds and squirrels together, so I have to post whatever I find no matter how squishy!!!!

BWAAHAA !!!!!!

mALX

Sep 7 2016, 02:56 PM

QUOTE(mirocu @ Sep 7 2016, 09:39 AM)

QUOTE(mALX @ Sep 7 2016, 01:48 PM)

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Sep 7 2016, 06:19 AM)

Well, I was thinking that things had gotten a little mushy in here

It is hard to find pictures of birds and squirrels together, so I have to post whatever I find no matter how squishy!!!!

BWAAHAA !!!!!!

mirocu

Sep 7 2016, 02:58 PM

What? I´m hungry

mALX

Sep 7 2016, 03:05 PM

QUOTE(mirocu @ Sep 7 2016, 09:58 AM)

What? I´m hungry

That is a good one!!! I had never seen it before!

mirocu

Sep 7 2016, 03:14 PM

So, my parents are moving again and this time to an apartment. Too bad, this house is nice and there are no other close neighbours than the landlord, but it´s their choice and I understand.

mALX

Sep 7 2016, 03:19 PM

QUOTE(mirocu @ Sep 7 2016, 10:14 AM)

So, my parents are moving again and this time to an apartment. Too bad, this house is nice and there are no other close neighbours than the landlord, but it´s their choice and I understand.

An Apartment? What about the 'Cavator?????? It can't live in a tiny apartment!!!!

WAIT!!! What about your shooting range? IT can't live in a tiny apartment !!!!!

mirocu

Sep 7 2016, 03:28 PM

QUOTE(mALX @ Sep 7 2016, 04:19 PM)

An Apartment? What about the 'Cavator?????? It can't live in a tiny apartment!!!!

WAIT!!! What about your shooting range? IT can't live in a tiny apartment !!!!!

Now, now. Calm down just a bit

They´re not selling the cottage and the land and no such plans exist, they´re just moving from the house they live in which is in town. So no need to get your fur in a bunch

mALX

Sep 7 2016, 05:24 PM

QUOTE(mirocu @ Sep 7 2016, 10:28 AM)

QUOTE(mALX @ Sep 7 2016, 04:19 PM)

An Apartment? What about the 'Cavator?????? It can't live in a tiny apartment!!!!

WAIT!!! What about your shooting range? IT can't live in a tiny apartment !!!!!

Now, now. Calm down just a bit

They´re not selling the cottage and the land and no such plans exist, they´re just moving from the house they live in which is in town. So no need to get your fur in a bunch

WHEW !!!!!!

*mALX shrinks back to normal proportions...*

Callidus Thorn

Sep 7 2016, 06:59 PM

Huh.

I wondered what that whistling noise was earlier

mALX

Sep 7 2016, 09:08 PM

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Sep 7 2016, 01:59 PM)

Huh.

I wondered what that whistling noise was earlier

Callidus Thorn

Sep 7 2016, 10:21 PM

I have been pleasantly surprised by the themes for Windows available on the microsoft website. It's the first time I've actually changed my desktop wallpaper in years!

mALX

Sep 7 2016, 10:28 PM

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Sep 7 2016, 05:21 PM)

I have been pleasantly surprised by the themes for Windows available on the microsoft website. It's the first time I've actually changed my desktop wallpaper in years!

I'm currently using Abstract Dark, though I downloaded a bunch of others too.

mirocu

Sep 8 2016, 07:48 AM

Gotta say, very cool images. Though I still prefer to use my own pixies.

And yeah, I clicked that link, Thorny. I clicked it gooood

Callidus Thorn

Sep 8 2016, 11:27 AM

You clicked one of my links?

You clicked one of my links?

Ahem...

In related news, flocks of pigs have been sighted in the skies of southeast England, Musspelsheim has frozen over, and Niflheim is on fire.

mirocu

Sep 8 2016, 01:33 PM

Oh, come on. It´s you who are afraid of my links. For some obscure reason

mALX

Sep 8 2016, 02:57 PM

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Sep 8 2016, 06:27 AM)

You clicked one of my links?

You clicked one of my links?

Ahem...

In related news, flocks of pigs have been sighted in the skies of southeast England, Musspelsheim has frozen over, and Niflheim is on fire.

Yep!

QUOTE(mirocu @ Sep 8 2016, 08:33 AM)

Oh, come on. It´s you who are afraid of my links. For some obscure reason

BWAAHAA!!! Uh...excuse me?

llllll

mirocu

Sep 8 2016, 02:58 PM

Yeah, for some reason Thorny simply refuse to click on my links. Don´t know what I did to scare him like that

mALX

Sep 8 2016, 03:28 PM

QUOTE(mirocu @ Sep 8 2016, 09:58 AM)

Yeah, for some reason Thorny simply refuse to click on my links. Don´t know what I did to scare him like that

mirocu

Sep 8 2016, 04:10 PM

Well, I´ll leave the 166 guests we have and go to the cottage. Gotta enjoy the new license smell

Callidus Thorn

Sep 8 2016, 07:07 PM

QUOTE(mirocu @ Sep 8 2016, 01:33 PM)

Oh, come on. It´s you who are afraid of my links. For some obscure reason

To be fair, we both tend to avoid each others links.

I just wish I could remember why...

mirocu

Sep 9 2016, 04:08 PM

Well, happy fryday!

mALX

Sep 9 2016, 04:52 PM

QUOTE(mirocu @ Sep 9 2016, 11:08 AM)

Well, happy fryday!

Happy Fredas!

mirocu

Sep 9 2016, 04:57 PM

Fredas?

Callidus Thorn

Sep 9 2016, 07:27 PM

Evenin' all.

I'm sitting here watching the Paralympic Games.

It is awesome.

mALX

Sep 9 2016, 08:58 PM

QUOTE(mirocu @ Sep 9 2016, 11:57 AM)

Fredas?

What, is it Loredas where you live already?

mirocu

Sep 10 2016, 01:53 PM

QUOTE(mALX @ Sep 9 2016, 09:58 PM)

QUOTE(mirocu @ Sep 9 2016, 11:57 AM)

Fredas?

What, is it Loredas where you live already?

No, I didn´t realize you were talking Cyrodilian

But, ehm... now it is Loredas, so..

mALX

Sep 10 2016, 03:24 PM

QUOTE(mirocu @ Sep 10 2016, 08:53 AM)

No, I didn´t realize you were talking Cyrodilian

Oh hey, I just realized it was the beginning of the school year because Mirocu has switched over to the Wasteland! Time to put away my white clothing and sun dresses I guess...urk.

mirocu

Sep 10 2016, 03:29 PM

Think you´ve gotten it a bit on the off-side there, mALX. I start the Wasteland experience in the spring and I end it roughly when I start Arena again which is in early November. During that time it´s all about the Wasteland, baby!

So you can keep your squirrelini on for a little while longer

mALX

Sep 10 2016, 03:53 PM

QUOTE(mirocu @ Sep 10 2016, 10:29 AM)

Think you´ve gotten it a bit on the off-side there, mALX. I start the Wasteland experience in the spring and I end it roughly when I start Arena again which is in early November. During that time it´s all about the Wasteland, baby!

So you can keep your squirrelini on for a little while longer

Oh, WHEW!

mirocu

Sep 10 2016, 03:58 PM

And all year long I play Oblivion with Lothran in Bruma in the winter, the Gold Coast and Colovian Highlands in spring, eastern and southern parts in summer/early fall and the last few weeks just before Bruma he´s in the Imperial City.

Oh, and Arena is basically only played in November and then Morrowind (Solstheim) kicks in. Honestly, I´m surprised that not every member here knows all this by heart. I mean, it´s not that complicated, is it..?

Callidus Thorn

Sep 11 2016, 01:48 PM

And here I am just firing up whatever game takes my fancy...

mirocu

Sep 11 2016, 02:24 PM

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Sep 11 2016, 02:48 PM)

And here I am just firing up whatever game takes my fancy...

The thing is, these games do take my fancy at these times of the year. I don´t do it because I have to but because it feels right. It´s not a chore to play like this but rather it magnifies the spirit of each season

Callidus Thorn

Sep 11 2016, 08:04 PM

Ah, that would be it. My fancy tends to be directed by what I'm reading, more often than not.

mirocu

Sep 12 2016, 08:16 AM

Maybe it´s Maybelline.

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