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No Country for the New Men

Going by my own experiences, my sense is Europeans fall into three groups with regards to the Muslim invasion of Europe. There are those who are moderately xenophobic about the whole thing and are are not afraid to say it, even if they are called Hitler for their trouble. These are people who have long ago grew tired of explaining the basics of human behavior to their betters so they no longer bother. They just oppose immigration. These are the Old Europeans.

The second group are those who are emotionally moved by immigration to the point where they seek out positive immigration stories in their news so they can feel good about it. They see a story of a European being kind to a migrant and they are filled by a warm glow, like the feeling you get when you drink liquor on a cold day. Like the first group, these people no longer bother explaining their position. If you don’t get it, you are probably a racist so who cares what you think?

These are folks who call themselves New Europeans, but like everything else about them, that’s a lie. Their imagined future does not include Europeans. Instead, it is a mythical world where dusky fellows speaking gibberish operate the machinery of Western civilization, without any of the hard work and intellect that is required to maintaining it. The European is just an avatar, forever basking in the grace of the world he created for the benighted.

There’s a third group that never gets into the news, because they don’t participate in the great debates over the Muslim invasion. At least they don’t show up on the street waving banners or on the television screaming at members of the other group. This is the silent majority, so to speak. Most Europeans are in this group and most would just as soon never discuss this issue. These are the New Men of the New Europe.

On the one hand, generations of hectoring by the beautiful people have made these folks instinctively fearful of being lumped in with the xenophobes and racists. They don’t think about it. Like trained animals, they simply react to commands. Their logical parts can hear the arguments against immigration, comprehend them and agree with them, until they hear the cry “racism” and they hit the panic button, erasing everything they have in their mind on the topic.

On the other hand, these folks look at the trial of Geert Wilders and they know this cannot end well. Whatever one wants to say about his positions or how he goes about stating them, you cannot have a civilized country while throwing people in jail for holding an opinion. The only difference between what the fascist did and what’s happening now is the fascists were honest about it. The Dutch authorities are slathering on a frosting of lies to go along with their thuggery.

The New European has grown accustomed to working out these contradictions. It is what defines him. There’s always a good reason for not joining on one side or the other. Generations of abuse by their betters have left them unable to look their betters in the eye. At the same time, generations of groveling have made them too weak in the fight against the xenophobes. They are dispensable Europeans.

There are dozens of families who will never see their loved ones again, thanks to the leaders of Europe. They created this. They invited this and they refuse to address it. They want that warm feeling so bad they are willing to sacrifice as many of their people as is necessary to get it. Like heroin addicts, they can’t get enough of the opiate of multiculturalism. It’s always more and more, while life gets worse and worse.

The New European Man will read these words and wave them off. “Our leaders will figure it out eventually. They are just trying to do the right thing, the humanitarian thing.” That’s what’s called wishful thinking, the thing you cling to when you got nothing else or you’re unwilling to consider anything else. It’s why the New European Man will not be a part of what comes next for Europe. They may not even be in the stands for the big game.

The Muslims have figured out that European leaders are paper tigers. They won’t fight. Eventually, the xenophobes will figure this out as well. The guys joining Pegida, Sons of Odin and similar groups will learn the same lessons the Muslims have learned. Then they will adopt the same tactics. This is a civilizational disaster unless the New European Men figure out that the future belongs to those who show up.

I wouldn’t define myself by someone else’s opinion, especially with an article that starts with “Going by my own experiences” when I suspect his “own experiences” don’t include first hand knowledge and experience of all things German. It would be like me defining Americans by their stand on Mexicans or Blacks based on what I read, rather than what I have come to learn from people who live there. Now, if the article started with “Going by my own experiences after having lived in Germany for the past 10-years…” then we’d have something to debate other than just opinion. 🙂

The idea of “Europeans” erroneously lumps everyone on this side of the pond into one group. It’s not the same as calling everyone from California to New York an “American” regardless of where your ancestors came from. I understand your concept about these groups but the comment “…even if they are called Hitler for their trouble.” would not be a fair to our French, Swiss, and Spanish neighbors. Keep in mind we Germans can trace our tribal roots all the way back to the Alamanni, Franks, Angles, and Saxons which goes back over 2,000 years. The broad sense of the… Read more »

@ FuelFilter – Who told you we don’t have guns? Of course we do! What do you think we used to wipe out all our native deer, wolves and bear – spears and arrows? We just don’t wave them around or hang them in the back of our pick-up trucks. Well, okay, to be honest we don’t really have pick-up trucks except that horrible Volkswagen Amarok. So you got me there. Speaking of guns, did you know the Glock-19 is Austrian made and is the most popular pistol in America over Colt and Smith & Wesson. Just saying! 😉

You really think that if a rush of citizens went to get their weapons out of government storage that Merkel would actually allow it?! Ha! No. The reason we Americans keep our weapons close by is so we don’t have the nanny state telling us we can’t bring them home and controlling if and when we may protect ourselves. You actually think that saying we keep out shot guns on gun racks in our trucks is some how an insult. It’s not. It’s a God given right, and we’re proud of it.

@ 5MilesOut – Actually we have them at home just like you do. No, the comment on pick up trucks was not an insult. I’ve seen movies with this arrangement and it was amazing to see that people could drink and drive and have a firearm in their truck. America – what a country! 🙂

@ 5MilesOut – If I wanted to insult America or Texans, you’d know it. But I have no reason to do so. You have to remember that much of what Germans know about America (or Texas) is from movies and TV shows. The result is a very distorted version of the reality of life in America. I am often defending the US with my German friends who think what they see on TV is how things really are. But having said that, I suspect while walking around with a firearm in public in Texas would be “normal” it would probably… Read more »

Your game-shooting shotguns are hardly a match for a custom-made Ar-15s or semi-auto pistols in all their various forms. And can you buy and hold unlimited amounts of ammo (as bulky as that would be for a shotgun)?

@ Old Codger – As I am not a sport shooter, so I would have to look up our laws. But as far as I know, there are not that many restrictions on the weapons or the ammunition so Germans can own shotguns, long guns, pistols and revolvers. And of course we can store them at home.

I was surprised at the quantity and quality of handguns and rifles owned by Germans in the former East back in the early 90s. The owners were anxious to show off their collections to an American. Gun laws were somewhat tightened after a school shooting in Erfurt, but there are still plenty of firearms legally in peoples’ homes.

Karl, I’m sorry to report that large portions of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas are indistinguishable from Mexico. So much for your theory. I would suggest that you think about the implications of that very seriously.

But are they Mexico, or are they still US states? Is your concern the population is changing or that these states will become loyal to Mexico? Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe the demographics of America have changed faster than any where else in the world in the last 250-years. That’s not the case here in Europe. People come to America to become American, not turn your country into where they came from. It’s the same here. Here in “old Europe”, things happen a bit slower. And besides, just look at how badly organized the Middle East and… Read more »

“People come to America to become American, not turn your country into where they came from.” Sorry, Karl, but that hasn’t been the case for 50 years now. Pre-1965, immigrants made an effort to integrate into American society and become American– mainly because they pretty much had to. Nobody here spoke their language or gave a damn about whatever culture they came from for the obvious reason that they had already integrated and left all that behind. Post 1965, we opened the floodgates to 3rd world immigration– both legal and illegal– and since then most immigrants have simply ceased to… Read more »

I have lived my entire life in Texas, and we have never resembled Mexico. The border towns do. Texas has always had a huge German and Czech and Irish community, as well as Mexicans. So, you’re incorrect.

@ 5MilesOut – Ah, a native Texan! Have you visited New Braunfels. We have the original Braunfels here in Hessen, you should come visit it. Germany has very strong ties to Texas that go back to our Mainzer Adelsverein. I suspect the Mexican-Texas thing is a sensitive subject so I will ask this carefully. 🙂 Was Texas part of Mexico or part of Spain before it became a Republic (state). I understand Texas is also predominantly Democratic (?) and sided with the south to defend slavery (just history, not a commentary on current Texan politics as I am watching the… Read more »

I live in New Braunfels. When I was a child and went shopping at wuests grocery with my grandmother many of the customers and cashier ladies spoke German(as a first language). Today they speak Spanish. I have seen a serious demographic change here in Texas during my lifetime. I’m only 50. Its all coming to an end. The culture of theft that Mexico endures has made its way here. Just like in Mexico many folks are beginning build walls around their homes. Give it another twenty to thirty years and we will all have to speak Spanish to conduct business.… Read more »

All it will take is a president willing to cut their goodies in half and you won’t see near the amount of non-English speaking Mexicans. Those same Mexicans will tell you this. If their opportunities of leisure by way of the American tax dollar is cut, even a little, they will head further up north, where they are viewed as exotic creatures. I will worry about this only if one of those commies is elected president.

“I will worry about this only if one of those commies is elected president.” Sorry, I thought Trump was a Republican and Clinton was a Democrat. Which one of the presidential candidates is a Communist?? Not trying to be smart, just trying to understand your comment.

@ Sam – it would seem the US, due to it’s sheer size, should be able to deal with the immigration problem better than Europe. Not only do you have a much larger population, you have the land as well so they could be assimilated as with past immigrants. Or is that not possible?

I suspect that the biggest problem isn’t so much people heading south, as it is the fact the US government fails to adequately enforce its own laws. It seems to be a common western trend.

@ Sam – From what you have described, it would seem your state (and other border states) is coming full circle. Looking at the history of Texas, native Indians were displaced by the Spanish over four hundred years ago and now the “native” Texans are being replaced by non-native immigrants from the south. I’ve always found the idea of “native” Texan being a white-European a bit odd, since the original Texas natives were neither white nor European.

Yes, of course I’ve been to New Braunfels, many times. I’ve been all over the great state of Texas. Texas was, at one time, its very own country. It’s why it has and is called The Lone Star State. And it is the only state flag in America that can fly at the same level as Old Glory. And we are given the right to secede any time we choose. To a native Texan, talking about Mexico isn’t in the least bit uncomfortable or a sensitive subject; it’s only upsetting to Mexicans, which… who cares about them!? No, again, Karl… Read more »

The whole of America has a problem with illegal aliens. And what’s your point, exactly? We have a world-wide problem with leaders that seem to have the same strange reasoning abilities as yourself. This type of thinking, Karl, is a plague on the rest of us that were blessed with self-preservation and clarity.

My part of the State of California already is quite similar to Mexico. Its richer nicer and somewhat safer but its very Hispanic in culture. That said its a big state and some parts are different than this, Whiter or more Asian. In that regard its more Brazil with a slightly higher IQ/Lower time preference population. Its suffers from all the normal 3rd world problems though, untenable welfare state, high crime in ethnic areas , crumbling infrastructure and hugely declining academic performance (top 5 to bottom 5 in a few decades) . It also has a lot of capital flight… Read more »

@ AB Prosper – From what I understand, the situation of California (and other democratic states) is not because of who lives there, but because of the party that runs it. Is this correct? I appreciate your comment on the Turks and East Germany. The Turks are actually not cheap labor, especially now that we have a minimum wage. In fact there is no “cheap labor” in the way you have Mexican day laborers. We do have Poles and other old East Bloc laborers, but our laws on employment are very strict so it’s harder and hard to hide this… Read more »

“@ AB Prosper – From what I understand, the situation of California (and other democratic states) is not because of who lives there, but because of the party that runs it. Is this correct?”

They’re both highly related. California was at one point a swing state. Loads of immigrants have helped in turning it blue. Those people vote Democrat every single time, they vote for more immigration. They vote for more illegal immigration, in the forms of politicians that won’t enforce existing laws, overturning said laws, as well as amnesty programs for those already here illegally… The cycle continues.

@ joe – Do you suspect all of California will go they way of Detroit? Are LA and SF heading that direction? I recall several California towns including Stockton have declared bankruptcy. I remember that at one point, if California was a country, it would have been 9th in world economic prosperity. Are most Americans as pessimistic about the future of America as the media seems to indicate?

CA is an interesting place. I live and work in Silicon Valley, so I feel like I’m at ground zero for the haves/have not debate. I’m lucky enough to be in the former camp (I get a rather large paycheck, but because of the high cost of living, I eek out a middle class lifestyle. But here you are lucky to get even that). The traditional middle class has fled CA in droves in the last 15 years. And when I say CA, I’m referring to the metro areas. Central CA is a different story. Affordable to live there as… Read more »

When I lived in Silicon Valley back in the 80;s and 90’s I had a sense that the state was very divided. Northern California had a very different sense of itself than Southern California. Nearly to the point of being two entirely different states. I really never cared for LA but found the real beauty of the state north of SF all the way to the Oregon border.

There is a division between norcal and socal, but it’s a different one that the haves/have-nots. It’s more of a cultural division. Norcal people on average don’t like Socal people. They view them as overly materialistic, flashy, etc. And there is some truth to it. In Socal, what car you drive, how you dress are much more important social signifiers than in Norcal. The flipside is that Socal people view Norcal folk as a bunch of preening hippies. These are total generalizations of course. Norcal there is more of a premium placed on activism and intellectualism. More virtue signaling and… Read more »

How long until you pack your bags, Karl, and move to safety in Poland or Hungary? I want to remind you that those two countries are only safe because they are “fascist”, full of “Hitlers” and are “extreme” right wing. And God bless ’em for it.

We tried to get our part of Poland back a “few” years ago everyone got upset with Uncle Adolf over that little event. Hungary, well, they’re doing better than Poland but just. Unfortunately like all old communist countries, they are nice places to visit but you wouldn’t really want to live there. Having said that, Budapest (that’s actually two cities, not one) is beautiful. If you ever get over here, make sure you go. Prague is also very nice. Poland, I would advise you don’t go in the winter, the entire country smells of brown coal.

“Smells of brown coal.” Sorry, that made me laugh. Those countries a recovering from communism, yes. I’d live in a free buck broke country any day of the week over a muslim/communist Hell hole. It takes mass amounts of smugness to view the world the way you and your German volks do. It’s sad. It’s very, very sad.

Not smugness, just a different perspective. Germans have no connections with the racial problems America has been dealing with for so many years. I remember the Los Angeles race riots, then it seemed to spread around the US. Remember, we’re less than half the size of Texas and after having most of our country obliterated80-years ago, it’s difficult to understand how cities like Detroit could happen without the help of a war.

Karl, it is not erroneous to lump you all together in this instance as Europeans because the member countries of the Eurozone all have the same policy in regards to “refugees”. Isn’t this policy handed down from Brussels? Yes, we know that you are German first and foremost, as people in France are Frenchmen, etc., etc., however the Moslems in your country and throughout Europe consider themselves Moslem first, last, and always. Even the Turks you often speak of. Do you know how I know that they have not assimilated? Most importantly, because they are Moslem, but also because you… Read more »

I can only speak about the Turks I know personally. Many of whom are friends of my children. If they are playing this “long game” then they play it quite well. Do you have a personal experience of Muslim’s where you live? I’m just curious how they fit into your schools and society in general. Do they assimilate better or equally to the Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Indians? I guess the question is do you believe the US will amend it’s constitution on freedom of religion to prevent some people from practicing their religion?

In the long run, Moslems have no intention of assimilating anywhere. Until they have the numbers to assert supremacy, they “play along” as much as possible to avoid scrutiny. Dearborn, Michigan is not referred to as Dearbornistan for nothing. I don’t know the answer to your question because I don’t know how Islam will be viewed here when people who understand the ideology of Islam reach critical mass. People talk about Islam as though it were solely a religion, yet the religious portion makes up about 40%. The rest is political and social ideology, mainly geared to the mistreatment of… Read more »

@ Kathleen – The issue of Sharia is a concern here too with the potential for a plural legal system. But banning religious freedom is a slippery slope. Who decides? I would think that anytime a religion infringes on basic human rights, we draw the line there whether it’s a religion or cult. I would agree if a bunch of lunatics want to drink Kool-Aid or have a particular dress code that’s one thing. It crosses the line with threats or actual harm to those who don’t go along with it.

@ Kathleen – The Muslim problem is not one of a people its a problem of ideology. You assume all Muslims act the same, everywhere, all the time. This is simply not the case. If it was, every Muslim everywhere would be running around performing a Jihad in accordance with the Koran. The fact is they don’t. Do you honestly believe every Muslim is just waiting for the chance to give up their western freedoms just to put on a Burka and go back to the stone age? Look at Iran in the 1970’s – all Muslims but all very… Read more »

I’ve been telling you it’s the ideology. And all Moslems are required to follow it or risk being an apostate which can have dire consequences. Islam has been at this for 1400 years, they are not playing catchup, and the comparison to communism is meaningless except that they are both antithetical to free societies. No, I don’t believe that every Moslem wishes to don a burqa or strap on a suicide vest. Some are just cultural Moslems, some eventually convert to another religion, some become atheists. Notice how there is no strong reform movement in Islam as nearly every other… Read more »

@ Kathleen – “Notice how there is no strong reform movement in Islam as nearly every other religion went through at one time or other.” That’s because Islam is the youngest religion on earth. Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism and Christianity all predate them by thousands and hundreds of years respectively. Christianity has had 2,000 years to change and has become the moderate religion we have today which is very different from what it was 500 or 1,000 years ago. Of course there will always be extremists like the Branch Davidians and others. And like Muslims there are plenty of Christians who… Read more »

You’ve got some serious blinders on in regards to Islam. You are trying to apply what you know of other religions and extrapolate it to explain the failure of adherents of Islam to come into the modern world and reform themselves. Will they? Unlikely. The people who commit acts of violence to advance the aims of Islam are not extremists. They are following the very example of Mohammed, they are following the teachings of the Koran. They are soldiers for Allah. And in poll after poll done here in the US, a majority of Moslems say they would not personally… Read more »

Buddhism and Hinduism don’t (didn’t) need ‘reform’ movements. Christianity – esoteric Christianity – doesn’t either. Popular christianity? That’s a different matter. What has Zman called those? Evangelical militant industrial complex? But you have to admit that Christ’s teachings were underpinned by a reverence for ‘Love’. Interestingly, that comports with Buddhism and Hinduism. Just spitballin here, but it sure seems that Islam is the darkness the background of which makes the other Faiths appear as brilliant truth and beauty. People must choose.

@ Old Codger – Germans ancestry goes back more than 2,000 years. Not unlike the French and Brits (although most Brits came from here or up north originally so they are more like us than the French). The concept of “auslanders” is new to us. If you look at pictures of the French football teams from the 1940’s and today, there are hardly any ethnic Gauls on the French teams! 🙂

I wouldn’t place bets against California becoming effectively Mexican. The poorer, inland parts, anyway. Their white cloud people masters will be safely secluded on the coasts. And certainly the open-borders types want to turn Texas “blue,” i.e. Democrat-voting, by bringing in more Mexicans. No, I think there is a very real chance that these states, in part or in whole, become essentially Mexican.

Horst my man, you seem like a nice decent German, educated / brainwashed by your media into thinking that a nice easy-going approach will solve this. You unfortunately have very little idea of what Frau Merkel has planned for you. Did you know that she won the 2010 European Commission Coudenhove-Kalergi Preis and that this is part of the Coudehove-Kalergi Plan? Your liberalism is dangerously naive.

Not suddenly, no, but very surely. All in one generation. One more, and they will become autonomous or secede, in all but name, as they assert their place on the gravy train and in the Overseer hierarchy.

@ theZman – Not to change the topic (which is good) but I recently read about US police being able to confiscate private property during routine traffic stops. It seems Americans have had property and cash taken away and they have to prove it is actually theirs. I thought there was something against unlawful search and seizure in your 4th Amendment. Would be interested to hear about that subject

@karl – You’re thinking of civil forfeiture. The intent of these laws is to break up drug gangs. For instance, the bank reports a regular large deposits of cash into an account which is then swept by a foreign bank. The Feds will seize the account and maybe the accounts of anyone associated with the account. The logic behind it is the patter of activity suggests the thing is the product of a crime. The people may not be charged, but they have to explain how they came into possession of the thing in order to get them back. Again,… Read more »

@ theZman – “civil forfeiture” is an interesting term. It seems like a twist of words for the government to accomplish what your Constitution prevents. But I can see the benefits and possible abuse. Hopefully your police are generally honest.

@Karl – it is a narrow exception, at least that is the intent. It’s actually something we inherited from the Brits. There’s two forms. One is civil forfeiture which is when the state seizes property that is most likely the result of a crime. Then their is criminal forfeiture where they state takes the property of a criminal. In both cases, due process rules apply so it is not as scary as it sounds. But, all power given to the state will be abused. Men are not angels.

The term civil forfeiture is used because no criminal charges need to be filed. It happens to motorists as well as businesses that have a high percentage of cash income. This can take a long time to read, but it got to me.

I can only imagine the frustration and anger of a law abiding person running a local BBQ and being pulled over by the local cop and having his daily earnings taken away because of a “suspicion”. Unbelievable. No wonder Americans are so frustrated with their government.

I forget the Latin for it, but the term of art is “against the thing” while the alternative is “against the person.” If forced to pick, I’d wants the state to prove the property is the proceeds of a crime before they could seize it. That said, I understand the trade-offs at play. Paco the heroin dealer has a million in cash in his crib that he got from selling heroin, but he can use to hire lawyers to get out of the charges against him for selling heroin.

Is that properly translated as “against the Thing”?
The Thing, or alThing, was the Saxon version of the State.
Recompense was based on wight und weregild, payment to the state, payment to the family, such as blood money for murder.
Half of Viking society were lawyers, anyone could volunteer to represent a claimant.

Belgium’s problem is worse than other European countries because it isn’t a real country, the South is French and the North is Dutch, Brussels speak French but is in Dutch territory, you could honestly say that if wasn’t for the decision of which side wil get Brussels the country would had dissolveld long time ago.

Not sure Belgium is going to secede from itself anytime soon, but yes, it’s a small country divided by language and culture. Have you ever seen the statue of Brabo in Antwerp? Interesting story. Legend tells that’s where the city got its name.

True. This is well known here. There are similar ghetto’s across Europe, primarily in France and Sweden. Germany has a few as well and there is major surveillance going on that never existed before. Italy has been interesting to watch on their approach to the problem. The mafia takes no pleasure in anyone crossing paths or disturbing their control. Despite their criminality, they don’t tolerate anyone “messing in their back yard.” The Italian government, despite it’s corruption problems, is very quick put pressure on the Muslims which is why you don’t hear of similar situations.

@ Thud – As you may be aware, here in Germany we have an unlimited speed limit on our autobahns. This was heavily influenced by the major car manufactures years ago. Since then, our ADAC (German auto club) and various insurance companies put pressure on successive governments to restrict the speed limit. In response, the government has made it clear that anyone who causes an accent while exceeding 130kph will be held liable. However they have not come out and banned unlimited speed. What they have done is increased the number of 120 and 130-kph speed limit signs all over… Read more »

i understand that people dying or getting maimed in speed-related car accidents is a problem that needs addressing and that strategically placed signs may help. But what do you see as the immigration-related problem that needs solving in Germany and what policies do you suggest your government implement to solve them?

The problem in the U.S. is illegal immigration and overstaying visas, so yes, enforcing the existing laws here would be the solution. What exactly is the problem in Germany that enforcing existing German law would solve?

Enforcing the laws would prevent unauthorized people from being in our country in the first place. As in the US, non-citizens have to apply for a visa. That’s why when you come here for a visit, you’re only allowed a 90-day stay maximum. If you exceed it, then the officials find you and ask you to leave. If we enforce the laws, we restrict and control those who come in and know who’s in and who’s gone. Like passport control at the airport. With the refugee situation, Merkel lifted the requirements and simply opened the gates to undocumented foreigners with… Read more »

Their imagined future does not include Europeans. Instead, it is a mythical world where dusky fellows speaking gibberish operate the machinery of Western civilization, without any of the hard work and intellect that is required to maintaining it.

I thin you mean No Country for White Man. “The guys joining Pegida, Sons of Odin and similar groups will learn the same lessons the Muslims have learned. Then they will adopt the same tactics. This is a civilizational disaster unless the New European Men figure out that the future belongs to those who show up.” The problem with this is that most of the “far-right” and anti-immigration parties/groups have been heavily infiltrated by the intelligency agencies of the European establishment, this isn’t a Conspiracy theory: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_stay-behind_network https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brabant_killers There is similar examples in other European countries, the French Front National… Read more »

Notice how these Muslim attacks make everyone “sad”. “Sad” people in Brussels observing a moment of silence, then applauding their own virtuous sadness. The “sad” Parisians lighting up the Eiffel Tower into the Belgian flag. Come on! Enough “sad”. How about “angry”? How about getting so riled up that you actually start thinking about what to do about this situation? Now, the “sad” pu**ies out there are going to equate that anger with the idea of dropping more bombs on Syria, and try to weasel out that way. But use that anger to start doing things, large and small, to… Read more »