--------------"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

--------------"But it's disturbing to think someone actually thinks creationism -- having put it's hand on the hot stove every day for the last 400 years -- will get a different result tomorrow." -- midwifetoad

As scholars debate whether World War I was an accidental war rife with mistakes and misperceptions…

Queen Victoria is far more responsible than Darwin could possibly be.WW1 was a family squabble amongst her offspring and extended family. Until the US entered the war, the rulers of all combatant nations were related to Victoria.I blame bad parenting.

Whats even worse is DNA that changes from Z- to B-DNA within half a turn:My impression is that half of the pictures at designed-dna.org is left handed (the link goes to a google picture search)

Edited by sparc on Aug. 22 2014,13:04

--------------"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

--------------"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

Guess I ought to add something to that. A few years ago, the local IDiot, a fundamentalist Christian, retired Professor Emeritus of surgery and urology, published a miserable book, title "Evolution, Creation or Accident", recommended as a gift for Christian teenageres at Confirmation. When someone confronted him with the argument about how humans have genes for a tail, and may even be born with a tail up to 6 inches long, his response was:

"That was unknown to me, but I will get in touch with experts on Intelligent Design in the USA."

But he only rarely respond to criticism and questions, and seems unable to distinguish between OOL and biological evolution.

That's about the situation in Norway, and I think all of Scandinavia is at a corresponding state.

--------------The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool. Richard Feynman

Is it a real surprise that it starts with a wrong-handed DNA molecule?

--------------"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

DNA: The Ultimate Hard Drive – Science Magazine, August-16-2012Excerpt: “When it comes to storing information, hard drives don’t hold a candle to DNA. Our genetic code packs billions of gigabytes into a single gram. A mere milligram of the molecule could encode the complete text of every book in the Library of Congress and have plenty of room to spare.”http://news.sciencemag.org/sci........de.html

--------------"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

--------------"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."