Re: lilypond-glyphs in other programs

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Michael J. O'Donnell

Subject:

Re: lilypond-glyphs in other programs

Date:

Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:22:31 -0600

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If you only need fairly conventional symbols, such as flats and sharps,
then finding the native LaTeX forms is your best bet. They are often
guessable (e.g., \flat), but they are often available only in math mode
(which is the case for \flat), so you have to write $\flat$ in regular
text, and you may need to fiddle with spacing (I'm going from an old
LaTeX manual, so it might have changed).
If you really want to use lots of symbols from the Feta font, or even a
few that you just can't find elsewhere, then you have 3 approaches that
I know of:
1. Discover that someone has already done this, and provided a *.sty
package to give decent access. This seems reasonably likely, given
lily-book (which I haven't used).
2. Configure the font for TeX yourself.
3. Use XeTeX (which has a xelatex variant) to get a fairly clean
interface with the font management used by the rest of your system.
I recently decided to play with the VSMeta-PUA font of the Revised
Organic Alphabet (by Sweet) for visible speech (by Alexander Melville
Bell). It's sorta like International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA), but less
chaotic. I started on 2, and decided it was way too much work, and
wasteful in the long run, since any intelligent future for TeX/LaTeX
should involve reconciliation with other font management methods. I
found 3 pretty easy. I can give you more guidance if you decide to go
that way, but I'll have to organize my thoughts a bit (this is something
that I did 2 days ago). So far, I haven't noticed any incompatibility
between xelatex and the usual latex, but I've only compiled one test
article about visible speech. I even managed to get LyX to use xelatex
in a fairly convenient way.
Cheers,
Mike O'Donnell
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> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:03:11 +0100
> From: Valentin Villenave <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Divisi and unison staves, how to hide?
> To: ??? - Hu Haipeng <address@hidden>
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> 2010/3/13 èƒ¡æµ·é¹ - Hu Haipeng <address@hidden>:
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>> Â At the beginning of the music, the 1st violin is divided into bracketed
>> two parts to generate different harmonics. However, it becomes unis in the
>> future, so I must prepare a separate violin I part. If I need to show all
>> instruments at the beginning, then both violin I and the divided two parts
>> are shown. If I use remove-empty = #f in all staves except violin I, then
>> the result is ok. But all the other staves will never be hidden. I think
>> Finale and Sibelius will not have this issue. How to solve this problem?
>>
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> Greetings Haipeng,
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> You can just start your additional violin staff with
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> \new Staff \with { \override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t }
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> This way you should obtain what you want (I think).
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> Cheers,
> Valentin
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> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:05:02 -0800 (PST)
> From: northofscotland <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Musica ficta
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> Thanks, but whilst the markup option will give a visual impression it won't
> translate into a midi and in a piece such as I am transcribing, there are
> roughly equal numbers of 'normal' ficta accidentals and bracketed
> accidentals, which makes for fairly tedious editing.
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> Jonathan Kulp-2 wrote:
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>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:35 AM, northofscotland
>> <address@hidden>wrote:
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>>
>>> I have been trying to force musica ficta accidentals into brackets, but
>>> the
>>> notation
>>>
>>> \set suggestAccidentals = ##t fs?
>>>
>>> seems to be ignored. Is it me or Liliypond?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> You can do it with a \markup, but you will probably have to adjust the
>> alignment and fontsize and whatnot:
>>
>> \relative c' {
>> d e fis^\markup {[\sharp]} g
>> }
>>
>> Jon
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