What happened to all the BEST features of Wundermap????

Remember the days when you clicked radar and could see the storm tracks and echo top?Remember the days Wundermap just worked as expected :) Do we have any plans to bring back the storm track feature? This was the best way to see predicted direction and size of storms as well the hail size and percentage. Please bring this back!

What they don't realize is when watches go online the standard will be dumbed down even further to fit on the screen of a watch. On a computer it will be ass uglier then this. Even now most websites due to the change have a lot of white space around the text to fit the text down to phone level. Otherwise you'd only see a few words at a time.

Once there was a time you didn't need to zoom at all unless you wanted a closer look at a hard to read word or had bad eyesight but now on a desktop no matter what OS it is or performance.etc you have to have a zoom feature to make it all fit. I find it impossible to read most of the time unless you have it at 130 percent. Any higher then 150 it switches to mobile mode for some reason.

Well put. I don't do what most people do on the web which is look at naughty stuff and think they are being clever. There is a LOT of educational and inspiring content to the web hidden because phone users don't do that and search engines are geared to phone users. Therefore I'm butting heads against the crap and having to swim upstream but I figured out to do it sideways.

I have an account with newspapers.com as I have some favorite archives I love to look at historical weather scenarios (which sadly only updates the same papers over and over since the rest of the web mostly went to phones) and tried once to look at newspaper archives on a tablet using the free Google News Archives and you can only see one little area at a time. Imagine doing that on a smaller screen aka phone! I wouldn't dare as I don't own a phone for that reason. I don't wan to be stuck doing Candy Crush.

I reckon the true reason Google won't do anymore with their news archives is they don't want to get in trouble with newspapers.com and they know nobody will be able to read it on a phone nor want to so no audience there. You can still visit the existing archives. For my area the closest paper they have is Eugene Register Guard with almost a full run. They also have Pittsburgh Post for Pittsburgh PA. What's the closet big town/city to you?

Let's take this a step further. How about doing it on a smart watch! REALLLLLLLLLLLLLY tiny screen if you can call it that. Everything will be Minish sized like a Minish from The Legend of Zelda Minish Cap game for the Gameboy Advance. https://zelda.gamepedia.com/Minish I can't help but wonder if there's a bunch of those small people running the show behind dumbing down websites and computer interfaces . Quote from Zelda Pedia (Zelda Wiki version)

I do a lot of research history mostly old stuff and now verifying whats real in the dam news. I keep friends up on weather cause i retired and on a lot. Always let them know whats coming next week and track storms. But thanks to us no longer having the options we have to sit back and let the censor what we see read and knows coming. LOL

Mom used to use Accuweather.com as for short range forecasts they have been very accurate for our area of Oregon. When they say it will rain at 3pm it usually is only 15 mins off or if they are wrong about the rain conditions would come real close to it but the showers miss the area so they aren't too bad now for short range stuff. Accu Weather at one time was a joke for any kind of forecasts back in the Bush/Early Obama era regardless of length.

HOWEVER last year they were pushing climate change stuff real hard and making anyone who didn't go along with it look evil and mean. Recently though there hasn't been ONE single article about it in months. It's more hidden in the trivia stuff which is easily ignored and the articles are about weather and science again what's actually going on. Like a recent article explains the chemistry about fireworks. That's how it should be makes the website fun and learning again. I guess a lot of people must've complained.

A year ago you'd be hearing "Are these early hurricanes related to climate change?" "Is the early willdfire seasons a new normal due to climate change?" with a huge rant after you click on it and maybe one blurb about the actual hurricane or fire.

Kyle, please just. Stop. Climate change isn't a fairy tale, the world isn't just figuring out your corporate-sponsored side of reality. Scientists overwhelmingly are 'pushing climate change' because it's a hard cold fact. Go back to your conspiracy Alex Jones and MAGA old white man pages and your 'the web has dun gone to phones arrrgh get off my lawn' babble. You come across here as an old cranky kook and not adding any information of value (even anecdotally) to the discussion.

Just today i pulled up intellicast weather which had work for 2 day period. Since wunderground had just stopped working I started using intellicast Windy.com is working really good for a 10 day forecast. But today weather underground came back up and looks like someone is trying to work on it but when you try the model it still in messed uo and sucks. I am hoping someone will get it all back but until then i use another site.

Intellicast had been my goto for Win10/chrome browsing and now Intellicast has been taken over by WU. Map is not up to par yet. Hopefully someone is working on the functionality including Storm tracking, precip totals, etc

Wundermap is a complete pos. Inferior to what we had. It doesn’t load well at all, and is much more confusing. This is not an accident. They don’t want us to be able to see what’s going on with man made weather,which is really all we have.

Yes and now they are trying to get it back going (i guess from complaints) and have screwed up intellicast (which I liked) cause it was good for 2 days. I am not sying what i finally as using cause the ass'es will screw it up to. Weather channel wants to control what we see.

They are not trying to do anything. they broke it intentionally. WU was kicking TWC's ass on line. TWC bought them out and did away with all the best features. Why compete when you can just destroy them. The threshold on the cloud top temps was awesome for seeing what kinds of temperature differences there were after storms passed, finding fog, all kinds of neat stuff if you knew what you were doing. GONE. Surprised me they left the composite on the radar. Oops, better not say that too loud. TWC has went way down hill too since they started being political activists first rather than a source for weather info primarily.

The Wunderground Storm app was incredible, it was my favorite App, period. It was a sad day when when the Storm App stopped working. I use RadarScope now and it generates storm attribute data. TWC probably bought the app for the algorithms and were completely ignorant to how elegant the interface was.

I see they broke Wundermap even further now. Used to be able to double-click on the 'colored severe' areas on the map and it would indicate the type of weather and details of the watch or warning.. now it just zooms in. Have tried this with Chrome, IE, and Firefox all the same.

The bug is called Google and it is a BAD virus to the whole web wanting everything to be phone only. There is room for both but they prioritize phones for a long time and now stamping down hard on anything not that.

Wunderground have never prioritised Android. You just have to look at the way they have neglected the Android app for so many years, the y never released the Wunderstation app for Android and the Wundergound app is lacking a lot in that area, no historical weather shown etc.

Wunderground is an absolute piece of shit! I used intellicast for yrs and it worked great. This has nothing to do with any apps, it doesn’t work on any device! It doesn’t load well at alll with lots the ads etc. What they have done is taken away our ability to see and show others how they are creating all th rain, floods, hurricanes etc. Fuck wundermap and all that are involved!

Unless you're still using an old version of Android - I couldn't disagree with you more. I started this thread for the horrible feature loss in wunderground/map (browser interface). Today I use the Android App as it is better than others and updated regularly. Half of it is probably my 50+ bug report submissions but it's not half bad. Be sure you sign in within the app.

I have been using Wunderground for a very long time, and I also must disagree, Let's Wind It Back. All software has errors from time to time -- it's programmed by humans after all, and we're fallible. I know software I've written and tested for what seemed like forever (none of it having anything to do with Wunderground or IBM, mind you) was no sooner in the wild than it produced an error.

Both the mobile apps and the browser-based sites are highly complex and have to deal with a wide range of systems and browsers, both new and old, in the US and elsewhere. I've seen first hand how hard the programmers are working on solving issues.

Victoria, that you're saying is all well and good and understandable to a point... but the issue with Wunderground is not that they have to develop and test highly complex systems with multiple variables and unending testing. The issue is that Weather Underground already had a wonderful, working weather data and forecasting website that was full of great, helpful features like the storm tracking paths, thunderstorm cloud tops, etc. Then the Weather Channel took over Wunderground and they apparently "fixed what wasn't broke." Many of the best features were dismantled and we were left and with a subpar version of what the Wunderground site once was. The technology was already there, was already implemented and was working just fine.

So the issues that so many are complaining about would seem to have little to do with site development complexity since all the features that users want were previously working wonderfully. It would seem that It has more to do with corporate policies and decision-making at the top of the food chain to downgrade Wunderground for whatever reason.JMO.

I hear you Zobva, but nothing stands still. Many changes were required behind the scenes to keep the system up to date. You seem to be saying "I just wanted everything to stay the same", but it cannot.

I liked the old map with storm tracks, too. But I also got used to the new one.

I guess I just prefer to live in the present rather than being unhappy about how things have changed. Other people feel differently, as is their right.

PWS owners who want to get added to the email list, please email me with your PWS id and API key if you have one.

Victoria, thank you for replying. But you make the assumption that I'm stuck in the past and don't like changes. Nothing could be further from the truth. Innovation and progress are the keystones of our society.

You have turned this around. It is not I, but Wunderground that has gone backwards. Progress means improvements, especially in a service that provides vital information to the public. Wunderground/TWC/IBM cannot legitimately make changes that provide less or less accurate information and then tell people who ask for the missing information that they "just want everything to stay the same." No. I love change that improves a product. But when change turns the clock back to an inferior product that eliminates rather than improves on a vital feature, that is not progress. It's regression.

To draw an analogy, it would be like IBM coming out with a new computer that uses a dial-up modem -- and then when people complain about how slow their internet connection is, telling them that they just seem to be saying, "I just wanted everything to stay the same."

I've made my point and won't keep arguing it. Thank you for listening.

I've had a PWS with wunderground since 2001. It was the #1 weather program in many users eyes before the downgrading. Most of us would say "if it isn't broken, don't fix it. Anyone who says they were making changes for the better is full of it.

Zobva and Ben D -- I don't have any real input on where the web sites are heading. But I'm not the only WU-person reading these.

It sounds like there's a difference in how we think about Wunderground. To me it sounds like your expectations, Zobva (and I recognize you are not alone in this), are as if Wundergound is a public utility. Of course we take our role in notifying people about weather (and therefore safety) seriously, but it is nonetheless a for-profit business.

But I really do appreciate your thoughtfulness in this. I'm sorry if I sometimes sound argumentative. I often wish we could sit around with coffees and discuss it in person. It's hard to recognize tone of voice in writing.

If I'm understanding correctly, you might be satisfied with the old Wunderground map with the storm tracks arrows ﻿in addition﻿ to the current map?

Thanks Victoria. Be great to get additional feedback from those on the web implementation side as well.

As a decade-long WU supporter/sponser and current paying customer - I hope the WU team can leverage our input on these forums.

While sitting around drinking coffee together sounds fun; that's exactly what i'm doing when responding to these (usually). Let's use this forum for leveraging a better public and private WU and take feedback from the source.

Nearly all the folks on here cared enough to register and comment about what they like and don't like. Why not collaborate and improve things as a whole? Utilizing feedback in this page alone will feed WU growth like convection does a thunderstorm. Why not implement some lost "golden" features and remain linear with feedback from subscribed self-proclaimed meteorologists like myself and all the others here who want the best of the best?

It's not laying down any storm tracks on my browser. I'll have to check this more thoroughly later. Would be nice for some of this data to available on the wundermap.

Anyone have luck viewing total precip on the map? In the past also worked great and so did the model for predicted precip total. 3ft of snow up here this Feb, however the current precip totals in the wunderground app doesn't work as expected.

As Markus pointed out, we can still get Storm Tracks on the NEXRAD page. The alphanumeric is even still at the base of the storm arrows.

What has been gone for two years now is the "key" to those alphanumerics, that used to be at the bottom of the Storm Tracks page. That was the most useful info WU had available, as it plainly depicted details about each storm cell, from mild to tornadic, slow moving rain to fast moving with hail, direction, speed, ...all the details that gave people a heads up when in the path of potentially disastrous, life threatening weather, so they could prepare to protect their property and or move to safety. Anyone could easily read this information and take the proper actions.

Myself and all the other Emergency Response teams across the country are still scratching our heads as to why this critical information is no longer available. Just makes no sense in the least...

BINGO! Your almost to the truth. Keep trying! Google wants it to be for mobile only. Google is essentially a PHONE COMPANY! They pushed Android for god knows how long and have given the PC users the middle finger then Microsoft did it and now Apple is doing it. Microsoft now owns Linux and Git Hub. Why is it important? Apple uses Ubuntu in their underlays which you pay for when you buy it. Microsoft owns Linux so they essentially by default own Ubuntu which means they own Apple. Get it yet? WE ARE LOSING COMPETITION! Actually we lost.

It's all a duopoly. The Linux guy sold out and works for Microsoft now. The first clue was when Microsoft dropped SQL and used Linux's version two yeers ago. I mean years ago. Microsoft has nobody really in charge just YES people in the windows department.

The copyright police DO NOT WANT US to own products which means home computers have got to be pushed to the curb and stamped down to being useless. Most people now do social media on it or their phone.

I love it when someone says a lot of stuff that makes perfect sense, revealing some shitty reality, and someone tells them to "take their meds". It's condescending, as well as blind. Please stop. Read. Inform yourself about monopolies and marketing techniques, and planned obsolescence.

You may know that Wunderground was purchased by weather.com which is the Weather Channel. Their website is so full of obtrusive ads and sensationalistic BS it's a wonder anyone visiting can actually find real weather happening. Wunderground was broken on purpose to drive viewers to interfaces where we can face more ads, and better their viewership revenue.

I wouldn't even mind IF they had the same features on weather.com, even with ads which they don't. The NEXRAD radar that showed the height of the thunderstorms, hail size, tornadoes, direction of storm cells, whether they were mesocyclones, etc. was the absolute best. Why would they simply kill the feature that made their product unique and stand out without replacing it? It makes no sense! GRRRRRR..May as well just go to my local TV station's weather online if weather.com doesn't care about the quality of their product. I can get the same generic information locally and keep my business local if I can no longer get the features on wunderground that made their NEXRAD radar info my go-to weather.

Tom, at this rate, might it be long before they remove this chat forum? It's unfortunate that I recently downloaded the wunderground app for Android. I noticed a couple bugs and reported them respectfully, yet no response. Whoevers court this ball is in is pretty piss poor.

It's hard to let wunderground just die.. as it's a go to for many. Again, if others have a better app or weblink for what we're looking for as a replacement please post.

Now they are replacing the Storm app with "Storm Radar." I loved Storm and used it every day. The Storm Radar app is so full of BS that I deleted it after only two days. It's sad that greedy bastards have to ruin everything they touch.

Gravity Traveler, that is exactly what has happened. The storms are not even clear anymore on weather underground. It used to be great you could tell exactly what part of a storm you were going to get and how bad it will be. Now it's just a joke. I refuse to watch the weather channel or use weather.com anymore for weather.

I agree Ashling the wundermap has not worked at all for awhile now and it was always the greatest especially if a hurricane was out there. The Weather Channel is a joke. Everyone like Weather Underground until it went to the weather channel. Can wait till someone does a site with real radar. Still have not found anything close to the old site.

Funny as IBM stands for International Business Machines and were the best until recently when they caved in to the global elites. IBM goes WAY back to the late 1800s they didn't always just do computers.

I only liked Wunderground.com for their almanac and history section but since their 2.0 upgrade it has become more broken with a lot of missing data. Like Redding Caliofrnia only has data to 1987 then it's hit and miss a lot mostly miss. Red Bluff has data back to the 1930s but in the 70s has a lot of errors.

Storm Tracker was the ONLY thing keeping me loyal to this app. Now I can uninstall since it's no better then the rest. Massive storm and I can't tell what direction it's going. What good is that. Weather.com bought it? Figures, they are so annoying.

Web Cam is not what we all want we want the a map we can run the model on to make up our own mines where the storm is going. A live web cam is useless. The map was able to be zoomed in right to your road to see where the storm was going. We could go out 10 days and see. Now we know maybe 2 days at the most. Accuweather has no model to run to see the future, useless.

Now on top of everything else, my Favorite Cities isn't working right. It keeps reverting to generic big cities like San Francisco, New York etc. I have to keep re-setting them. Not only that, but I was using as my location for my weather reports and airport that is 1 mile from me (KBAF station). Now that seems to have disappeared and it defaults to a station that is missing most of the weather data. I have to go in and change to another weather station now practically every time I go to Wunderground. :-( They really messed up a good thing when they started ruining what used to be the best weather website there was.

Indeed. Weather Underground (WU), which was considered the best weather site on the internet, seems to be an afterthought for well over a year now. Perhaps due partly to the The Weather Channel (TWC) buy-out.

We contacted IT customer service several times early last year during the course of several months. They responded by saying the storm tracks would return shortly, and that they were now on the mobile app, ...we couldn't find them on the mobile app.

The website continues loose functionality, much slower than before. Every evening they appear to turn off some function until the next day. It appears the new format is geared toward mobile use now, and not very good at it. Like Tom mentioned, know one likes the new format, especially PC and laptop users, and it's falling on deaf ears. I would bet they spent a considerable amount of funds changing the format, most likely attempting to be useful to both mobile "and" PC users. Would venture to guess that endeavor has been a bit of a failure so far.

As far as being inundated with advertisements, the paid service did not have adds, and was very reasonably priced, ...less than a dollar per month with a lifetime membership available. Also fairly easy to find a suitable ad-blocker if necessary, ...and from what I've been told, it was much needed, as the load times were way too slow, due to the overabundance of adds.

We were a paid corporate user since near the beginning, until late last year. Our half billion dollar global aircraft management company and flight department relied on WU. Having multiple 65" TV screens in our board rooms and flight planning rooms. WU was always on, or the first thing up when we booted the system. This was not unique to us, a lot of corporate users used WU. Many very large companies we met with use to comment just how nice the WU website looked, most also became paid WU customers.

All of us enjoyed being a part of WU evolving into what it was. Their service had incredibly well presented and useful info., especially the NEXRAD page with Doppler Radar Detected Storms, storm cell identifiers, and a grid to depict the status of the storms. Now at the bottom of the NEXRAD page it states "There are no Doppler radar detected storms for (any area) at this time." A very dangerous proposition if some one, or a group, were to believe this false info., as people could potentially be inadvertently put in harms way, if in the path of inclement weather. TWC should care about this, if they really care about how weather affects people. Certainly the advertisement revenue should be second to helping protect people and property.

After speaking with a few Emergency Weather Management Units around the country, all were in agreement, the WU NEXRAD page with storm tracking, labeling, and info. grid, was the most useful item for safely dealing with alerting people to impending bad weather.

At this time, we will attempt to contact what is left of Weather Underground, and its creators, to see if anything can be done to fix the website. Will post an update when available.

Thank you for your efforts in getting weather underground to listen to revert back to the best weather app that I have ever seen. After reading a few of the posts here I see that I am not the only one who thinks like this also. Once again thank you.

Thank you for putting forth this effort. I was a paid member for years and am livid because of the cancellation of WU Storm. The Storm app was my 1st step in flight planning, even before beginning my flight planning in ForeFlight Mobile. I even trained my wife on using the various features of the app to keep herself and our kids safe from severe weather when I’m not home. Killing this app seems greedy and unnecessary and exactly the opposite of what the market is demanding. Because of it I am canceling my Weather Channel cable subscription. I think a weather company that irresponsibly kills a critical weather tool that many use professionally, and that favors ads over service deserves to go out of business. I’ll take my business elsewhere. Lastly, I hope the geniuses at WU are able to see and opportunity interfacing with ForeFlight in much the same way ForeFlight partnered with Jeppesen to provide access to their superior aviation charting.

From what I can tell TWC is in the process of completely shutting down WU. Almost nothing works on the Wundermap now, and a couple of days ago the WU Storm app forced users to "upgrade" to TWC's far-inferior version (which is essentially useless as a weather tool, especially for critical needs and safety planning). I certainly appreciate your efforts and hope they are successful, however I think at this point, unfortunately, WU is history. My plan at this point is to try to reach out to the WU staff, and encourage them to wait out there NDA and non-compete agreements (hopefully they're not too long, I believe most states limit them to two or three years), then, simply recreate it without TWC. I'm confident its user base was large enough that it will not only be financially feasible, but very profitable for all involved. Whatever the case, let's all keep this discussion going and aim to rally support to do something﻿ before TWC's greed (or is it just plain stupidity?) kills too many people.

TWC hated Weather Underground from the get go. I miss Storm. It was handy watching the weather close in as American Pharoah was preparing to run the second leg of the Triple Crown, having the wind tracks to show where the smoke was going to go during the wild fires, and being able to make it back to harbor before the weather got too bad. I had even gotten the marine add on. With WU you could predict the weather within a few minutes. My boss even used it to send us home just before a bad storm cell.

I guess their theory is 'if you can't beat them ... buy them'. From what I remember Weatherbug wasn't able to put anything together to compete with WU. Maybe ACCU Weather will take a look at something like WU to complement current setup.

It's called PHONES for a reason dude. They are NOT computers despite having a processor or two. The entire structure is way different and the mindset of the people who use a PC vs phone are way different. Phone only users are used to not having custom control or ownership so go for being dinged for microtrans because that's all they know. What did they do before smartphones? They pick up the dial and ring ring. If it connects they are happy.

Home computers were trying to push that computers can do more then just work related tasks. It can be an engaging tool and educational. It tried from the Commodore 64 with hobbyists and Loadstar up to the early 2000s then things went to hell from there. Now the majority of people we know and see don't even use computers anymore or have them stored in their closet and they just stream content on guess what?................................................................................................................................................................DUMB PHONES! :) They think they have a PC in their pocket form media bull shit which have proven to be paid and now it's all really unraveling as they are officially being questioned for decades of lies and scandals.

Except for a small but loud group of vocal indie gamers most people just want to stream and consume. There is no true Commodore 64 era of hobbyists doing things brand new from the ground up. Raspberry is also a phone. Sure you build it yourself but it's all from existing things trying to get something that works on a PC dumbed down. Nothing new from the ground up that is WOW or OH MY G! HOLY S((( this is totally unique! The Commodore had a lot of the latter but not fast enough processor (only 64K) to really take off and was ignored by media as a toy which it wasn't) Even the Amiga had a decent following but the media totally ignored it unless you really hunted.

Loved previous graphs, that was the reaseon i liked so much Wunderground, was an evangelist bringing people to this weather site, now evertything looks like very other weather page , so much dislike :(.I will recommend Windy.com

Extremely Pissed cause Wundermap not working anymore I could always predict what was coming and I still use a Desktop Breaks my heart weather predictions are not available anywhere. I think they have done this on purpose cause we predicted better than them.

I repeat my 'just posted' here -->" It's my understanding that the 'New WunderMap' uses JavaScript.
Firefox,which I use on my ol VISTA desktop no longer supports NAPI which
was the API to JavaScript Plugins . My IE V9 doesn't work anymore
either. I switched to FIREFOX ESR 52.9(32 bit), no joy there either .
No matter what I try, the result is the same 'blank baby blue field' .
Sometimes it's just 'game over' :-( " Rich

Its all obvious that its the web site I honestly think the weather channel does not want is to see our future forecast, this makes us depend on them to tell us. They have not once acknowledged they even has a problem. You can pull the forecast map and see by dates, but not animated or reliable. If this map was animated it would at least help.

It's my understanding that the 'New WunderMap' uses JavaScript. Firefox,which I use on my ol VISTA desktop no longer supports NAPI which was the API to JavaScript Plugins . My IE V9 doesn't work anymore either. I switched to FIREFOX ESR 52.9(32 bit), no joy there either . No matter what I try, the result is the same 'blank baby blue field' . Sometimes it's just 'game over' :-(

Its all obvious that its the web site I honestly think the weather channel does not want is to see our future forecast, this makes us depend on them to tell us. They have not once acknowledged they even has a problem. You can pull the forecast map and see by dates, but not animated or reliable. If this map was animated it would at least help.

Phones don't do that and phone users are not really interested except the bare minimums. We are fighting the majority here. See my previous posts about why phones aren't truly computers and it's all just a market BS hype which a lot of people have fallen into. A lot but not all. Also see my posts about why it's bad that Microsoft owns Linux and Git Hub. It's also bad for Apple. The latest Mint update is essentially broken if you want to run older hardware. No sound drivers and things won't play on Crossover that did before the update.

@Kyle - Though your 16 post rants after midnight make you appear crazy. You do make one or two valid points.. that confirm you're crazy.

Thanks for the entertaining read. You'd hate to see how many old commador's it would take to stack into today's high-end mobile PC tech - and of course the majority will adapt from rotary dialing phones to octa-core processor+ "dumbphones" dummy. Unless you don't get out much - read a book. You might like fantasies.

@All - Some don't like change, and that's fine for ignorants. For the rest of us there's other weather sites out there pulling past wundergrounds failure. Instead of complaining further about how it's broke and will never be fixed - let us use this forum to point people in the right direction of other sites that accomplish what it is we're looking for.

I assure you that I for one am far from "ignorant." Perhaps with your superior intellect and knowledge, you could advise us of another weather website that provides real-time storm tracking radar with cloud height, hail size, whether the storm is a mesocyclone, tornado spinups, etc. -- as Weather Underground used to do.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I would be more than happy to make a change if someone of your great stature would tell us where such a site can be found on the internet. And I would be appreciative of such knowledge.

Ben please share if you know of any weather sites that you can predict whats coming for the 10 days at a time on Radar and not just tell me its gonna rain. I found one so far that goes out 2 days but that's it. I like seeing whats out there in the ocean. Thanks for sharing another site.