Interests:Para normal activity of all kinds, but especially the why of where. Bad things happen everywhere, but why is THIS place haunted, charged, etc.? Intelligent exchange of ideas, sharing of experiences and and putting various talents to work on a single problem. High strangeness of all kinds.

Posted 08 January 2006 - 03:23 PM

One of the more interesting type of reports from the realm of high strangeness, is the quickie "time traveling" that is reported from time to time.

The stories usually go something like this. A couple or family is traveling down an unfamiliar road and decides to stop for a bite to eat. They spot a diner and go in. The food on the menu is cheap and good, the people friendly, the joint looks "retro". On the return trip they decide to stop again, but can't find the place. Sometimes they discover that the place used to exist, but hasn't for years.

One report came from two women who went to a restaurant attached to their motel. They even came away with a card from the counter by the register, but again, attempts to go back are foiled.

There are variations to the theme. In the December issue of FATE magazine there was a letter from a man who went into a ship chandlers. Everything was very quaint. The man apparently wanted to purchase something, but the two old men in the back "ignored" him. Again, of course, a return trip was unsuccessful.

In a highly documented case from Britain, a family on a picnic found a very cool park for their adventure. It had a lake with a "monument" in the middle of an arm holding up a sword. (Anyone here familiar with the King Arthur mythos?) The whole family experienced the same event, but have spent the last 20 years trying to find the place again. Hmmm..

There are other variations. My own father and his uncles saw a house that wasn't supposed to be there. They speculated for years about what would have been their fate had they gone inside. Some people see houses that have never existed in that spot. And there are other problems with the whole strange business.

If these people do in fact travel through time or to a parallel universe, why doesn't anyone comment about their strange clothes or outdated money?

One last variation is the short-cut home. In various parts of the country is local knowledge of roads that show up from time to time that get you home faster than should be possible, or that you find yourself on when you're in need of trouble.

Take this kiss upon the brow!
And, in parting from you now,
This much let me avow---
You are not wrong, who deem
That my days have been a dream:
Yet if hope has flown away In a night,
Or in a day, In a vision, or in none,
Is it therefore the less gone?
All that we see or seem
Is but a dream within a dream.

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Interests:Para normal activity of all kinds, but especially the why of where. Bad things happen everywhere, but why is THIS place haunted, charged, etc.? Intelligent exchange of ideas, sharing of experiences and and putting various talents to work on a single problem. High strangeness of all kinds.

Posted 10 January 2006 - 05:17 PM

This is the sort of thing that keeps me in this crazy game. None of this really makes sense

Take this kiss upon the brow!
And, in parting from you now,
This much let me avow---
You are not wrong, who deem
That my days have been a dream:
Yet if hope has flown away In a night,
Or in a day, In a vision, or in none,
Is it therefore the less gone?
All that we see or seem
Is but a dream within a dream.

Interests:Para normal activity of all kinds, but especially the why of where. Bad things happen everywhere, but why is THIS place haunted, charged, etc.? Intelligent exchange of ideas, sharing of experiences and and putting various talents to work on a single problem. High strangeness of all kinds.

Posted 11 January 2006 - 06:22 AM

What are the choices here? I reject mass hallucination. So, I am left with: 1.) Time travel 2.) dimensional shift, 3.) I forget the term, but basically by imagining it the participants created their own bubble reality 3.) they had a ghostly encounter ( some at any rate ) 4.) ???

For a variety of reasons I am pretty certain that people wander between alternate realities with some regularity. I suspect that some realities are so close and so interpermeable by our own that they are almost the same "place", while others are pretty much a one way trip. I am aware of too many anomalous archeological artifacts to believe differently.

Just imagine, you and your family are driving down a country road at night. The road turns into more of a trail. You turn around and when you drive back, the road just gets worse. You sleep for the night, and when you wake up your young son is saying, " Daddy! Look at the camel!" You get out and look around and are very glad that you were coming back from a hunting trip and had your rifle. You get lucky and hook up with a group of other auslanders living at an indian level of existence. A million years later someone finds a sparkplug in their dig and says" Oh s--t! If this shows up in our paper all of our evidence is suspect!" And so, "Whoosh" goes the sparkplug over the shoulder.

Take this kiss upon the brow!
And, in parting from you now,
This much let me avow---
You are not wrong, who deem
That my days have been a dream:
Yet if hope has flown away In a night,
Or in a day, In a vision, or in none,
Is it therefore the less gone?
All that we see or seem
Is but a dream within a dream.

Interests:Para normal activity of all kinds, but especially the why of where. Bad things happen everywhere, but why is THIS place haunted, charged, etc.? Intelligent exchange of ideas, sharing of experiences and and putting various talents to work on a single problem. High strangeness of all kinds.

Posted 12 January 2006 - 10:32 PM

I've always enjoyed hearing tales of "time slips" and have even had a few experiences myself where I felt like I wasn't quite where I was supposed to be in time. Nothing dramatic, though . . .

I'm reminded, though, of a comment made one time by Mike Rosen, a commentator on KOA radio in Denver.

When posed with the question "Is time travel possible?" Mike quickly responded "No!"

His reasoning? He said that if time travel was possible, we would have already been visited by tourists from the future

Time is an illusion. It doesn't move, it just IS. What happened is still there, and what is "going to happen" is still there. I someone from the "future" visited the "past", then it's already happened. The traces are already as evident as they ever will be. Believe me, there IS evidence of mixed cultures.

Take this kiss upon the brow!
And, in parting from you now,
This much let me avow---
You are not wrong, who deem
That my days have been a dream:
Yet if hope has flown away In a night,
Or in a day, In a vision, or in none,
Is it therefore the less gone?
All that we see or seem
Is but a dream within a dream.

i have experienced a few time slips myself...i wont go into them here..nothing big...maybe in the future time travel will be possible, but we havent been visited by "Jeston"-like people because its a law that they have to go undercover as some1 from this century so that things will turn out right in the future, or a law that says we can only go into the future so there is no chance of messing up the past....thats what i think about it. One time we was in Oklahoma and we ended up in a little town in the middle of the night that looked like it was from the 70s or 80s...by the time we got home, we couldnt find that town...i remember seeing the name of the town and looking for it on a map...but i cant remember right now.

Interests:Para normal activity of all kinds, but especially the why of where. Bad things happen everywhere, but why is THIS place haunted, charged, etc.? Intelligent exchange of ideas, sharing of experiences and and putting various talents to work on a single problem. High strangeness of all kinds.

Posted 08 February 2006 - 06:21 PM

i have experienced a few time slips myself...i wont go into them here..nothing big...maybe in the future time travel will be possible, but we havent been visited by "Jeston"-like people because its a law that they have to go undercover as some1 from this century so that things will turn out right in the future, or a law that says we can only go into the future so there is no chance of messing up the past....thats what i think about it. One time we was in Oklahoma and we ended up in a little town in the middle of the night that looked like it was from the 70s or 80s...by the time we got home, we couldnt find that town...i remember seeing the name of the town and looking for it on a map...but i cant remember right now.

That's funny, I thought that all of Oklahoma looked like the 30's! Sorry, just a cheap shot. What made it look older? I'm not sure I could tell the difference between an '80's town and today's except for something like a newspaper. Sure the cars, but I refuse to buy a new car, and in a lot of places folks can't buy new vehicles.

What I'm working up to is something Jenny Randles in her book "Time Storms", discusses. It's something she calls "the Oz factor". She says that there is an unreality, or super reality at certain times. You know, like Dorothy Gale saying, "Toto, I don't think that we're in Kansas anymore!". Along with the feeling goes an inability to interact with the observed landscape (sometimes), loss or gain of time, possibly disappearance.

Take this kiss upon the brow!
And, in parting from you now,
This much let me avow---
You are not wrong, who deem
That my days have been a dream:
Yet if hope has flown away In a night,
Or in a day, In a vision, or in none,
Is it therefore the less gone?
All that we see or seem
Is but a dream within a dream.

Doppelgangers, timeslips...any experiences concerning these I just eat up. I know this is an old but Markways' original post was worth the read.
I wish I could have a timeslip experience... but I'm not that lucky