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And how can I tell if anything has enough weight or whatever it takes to get relics?

Enhanced Client + PGCD's Item Property Evaluator mod. Shows the weighted value of each item you get and is highly accurate in what you unravel the item (among other fun tidbits of info such as DPS on weapons, adjusted swing speed, best enhancement materials, and for BODs what the likely reward will be).

great mod I highly recommend it ! if they did away with EC now and gave us the choice of one to keep this would be it!

a couple things to note though
swing speed does not take into account armor items that give ssi(unless there has been a update i missed)
also with the changes to imbuing the What to enhance with may be off(also unless I missed a update)

Anyway back to the point! if you use enhanced client and want to sort loot fast ! This is what you want!

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PGCD's mod doesn't work for me anymore, all relics predicted after enhancement now give essence, so instead of making relics (a BASIC component, not the rare stuff you have to farm for hours for high end imbues) more common, it seems they are now harder to come by.

I hope my tests were just a streak of bad luck, because if relics are actually harder to come by it's the final nail in the coffin of my crafter's business, and, IMHO, a VERY bad move from the devs.

While i realize im getting old, i dont see this (Item Property Evaluator) on that site.... All i see is the Item Property Highlighting. Same? Diff? Plus last release was on the 3rd of december before the last publish

While i realize im getting old, i dont see this (Item Property Evaluator) on that site.... All i see is the Item Property Highlighting. Same? Diff? Plus last release was on the 3rd of december before the last publish

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Item Property Highlighting that's the one!

pgcd is working on gathering the data to make changes from the publish like the amount special mats give etc I am sure when its done there will be a new version! I would not expect it till after the first of the year but thats just a guess

Do you realize how boring it is to camp Heartwood when you don't run a scripted bot?
It takes hours to have a yew kit drop, and for 3-5 relics?

Heh, no, thanks

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I have never gotten one from there and i have burned over 250k wood
got lots of tali though
i just go fight swoop and loot the higher end items that you can turn into relics and everything thats 3 or less stones goes in a bag to unravel
each trip i net 3to 6 frags and takes me about 30 min to 45 min depending on who all is there

Damn, that much? I used to make them for about 19-25K up until the last change. I think I'd rather go hunting than do runics, at least the loot is more interesting and I get "paid" to do it. I thought the whole idea of Imbuing was to offer an alternative to the runic lottery (both in dropping them and burning them for something useful).

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That page shows you how to install the various mods. I would personally suggest going to the Skins tab at the top and choosing either the Copper_Enhanced or Legacy II skin packages as they will have the Evaluator in the package as well as many other additions as well as give the game a different look based on the package design, so pick one that you feel looks good and has the favored features.

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A. Total Magic intensity
The basis doesn't change except damage convert intensity.
After Publish63, Material's Property is included in the intensity calculation.
However, Resist+ bonus is not included only by it.
Exceptional effect, DI+ or Resist+ bonus, is not reflected in the intensity calculation only by it, too.

A. Total Magic intensity
The basis doesn't change except damage convert intensity.
After Publish63, Material's Property is included in the intensity calculation.
However, Resist+ bonus is not included only by it.
Exceptional effect, DI+ or Resist+ bonus, is not reflected in the intensity calculation only by it, too.

Thanks Chrome, I guess this is all I need to update my stuff - and I wouldn't have guessed that 5+ properties part in a million years. But it nicely explains why some stuff was completely off in my calculations =)

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This is all great info. But it still does not answer my question. What do we have to make now to unravel to get relics?

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Its very obvious you have absolutely no appreciation for the work Chrome did to get the info he posted. I did about half of it independently and its a lot of work! If you can't take this info and figure out the rest for yourself I don't think you deserve it. Lazy to the nth degree.

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Its very obvious you have absolutely no appreciation for the work Chrome did to get the info he posted. I did about half of it independently and its a lot of work! If you can't take this info and figure out the rest for yourself I don't think you deserve it. Lazy to the nth degree.

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Chill out, he's just asking a question, and quite politely.

Nerds thinking you need a math degree to play roleplaying games get on my nerves, sometimes

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However, it aint cheap, and in fact would be reosurce/cost prohibitive to mass produce relics in this fashion. It could be useful to make 5-10 relics allowing you to imbue a particular stat on a "keeper" weapon.

Its very obvious you have absolutely no appreciation for the work Chrome did to get the info he posted. I did about half of it independently and its a lot of work! If you can't take this info and figure out the rest for yourself I don't think you deserve it. Lazy to the nth degree.

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Thats pretty harsh and yes I appreciate it very much what both of you did. I am figuring it out now.

Next time watch your mouth there was no call for what you said. You are the one that is rude and arrogant. I wish I knew you in real life, I assure you would not speak to me in that manner.

And if you want to meet PM me and I will give you my address and phone numbers.

However, it aint cheap, and in fact would be reosurce/cost prohibitive to mass produce relics in this fashion. It could be useful to make 5-10 relics allowing you to imbue a particular stat on a "keeper" weapon.

I used to be able to get Relic Fragments from stolen weps. such as Light of the Void etc. Now they give me essence. This happened with the last patch.
What gives Relics now? And how can I tell if anything has enough weight or whatever it takes to get relics? I have looked for charts or formulas but I cannot find any information.

Please, does someone have information on this?

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You were given this information (the bold part) by Chrome and you were still too lazy to do it. What you really wanted was the part I highlighted in red and which was brought to you by TheLetterQ. You could have done the same thing TheLetterQ did, but you wanted it handed to you on a platter.

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I think you get a Mage Armor on that piece as part of th creation. I don't think that counts towards the unraveling total anymore.

Can you post the stats of the piece and maybe we can hash it out.

Crazy bit'o'trivia. I actually woke up in the middle of the night with the solution to how these guys are getting these numbers. How strange is that?

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That's one of the theories on what your brain does while you sleep, one theory is it flushes out unneeded memories, thats what dreams are. Another is that while you sleep and your body regenerates the chemicals in your brain, it solves problems at an accelerated rate that you haven't solved while you were awake.

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