No offense to TTA, but these particular sounds have been well covered in and out of modular. Personally, I would rather see something completely new and different as far as dedicated drum modules go. i don't know what that is exactly, but i know another set of x0x sounds are not what i am after. again, this is one man's opinion.

a digital drum designer perhaps, with granular capabilities or something else that could set it apart.

I agree but none the less I must admit this has me excited.

AntManBee

zvukoprocessor wrote:

thomas_grey wrote:

...Doepfer had a plan about such a sequencer. Don't know what happened to that project.

ohhhh, them with their plans.... its years in their plans... if all manufacturers were going so slow, we would still be using fucking VSTs

er, Dieter was making analogue synths long before VSTs and will hopefully be doing so long after VSTs have gone away. When you understand the margins involved in modular synth manufacture and take into account that no one offers as many modules as Doepfer (without whom we probably wouldn't be using euro format at all) then it's a little churlish to grumble.

AT

sweet. this was an out of the blue announcement!

megamouse

I'm a gabber baby, so I can't wait fr the 909 Modules!!!!!

Monobass

I love 808 but I'd rather have new ideas.

theabsent

Monobass wrote:

I love 808 but I'd rather have new ideas.

I feel the same. That's why I said I hope that it's not just another copy but with TipTop twist.

AntManBee

Monobass wrote:

I love 808 but I'd rather have new ideas.

That sums up my feeling exactly and that's whay I sold mine.

Johnisfaster

I'd say if these have a large pitch range and fm inputs then they will be quite interesting. Otherwise I can likely live without them.

You know what I miss on other drum modules is a pre-vca output so you can still use it like a vco or an fm modulator for something else. I mean the voice is in there already but the internal vca is cutting it short, why not have a second output for pre-vca?

qu.one

Johnisfaster wrote:

I'd say if these have a large pitch range and fm inputs then they will be quite interesting. Otherwise I can likely live without them.

You know what I miss on other drum modules is a pre-vca output so you can still use it like a vco or an fm modulator for something else. I mean the voice is in there already but the internal vca is cutting it short, why not have a second output for pre-vca?

Cwejman BLD.

Soy Sos

Johnisfaster wrote:

I'd say if these have a large pitch range and fm inputs then they will be quite interesting. Otherwise I can likely live without them.

You know what I miss on other drum modules is a pre-vca output so you can still use it like a vco or an fm modulator for something else. I mean the voice is in there already but the internal vca is cutting it short, why not have a second output for pre-vca?

This is what make the Pitt Mod Generator so interesting for me.

Johnisfaster

qu.one wrote:

Cwejman BLD.

Really wish there was a decent video demo of that thing.

DT

pics and prices?

can't wait.

seancostello

qu.one wrote:

a digital drum designer perhaps, with granular capabilities or something else that could set it apart.

"Granular" drums could easily be done with hardware 808 drums, and the analog 909 drums, assuming that the drums are set up as simple filter sections that can be "rung" by impulses of various amplitudes. The granular part would then come from the impulses being sent into the drums. Send a glitchy impulse stream in, get a granular drum beat out, complete with perfect overlapping of the "grains."

Sean Costello

Johnisfaster

seancostello wrote:

qu.one wrote:

a digital drum designer perhaps, with granular capabilities or something else that could set it apart.

"Granular" drums could easily be done with hardware 808 drums, and the analog 909 drums, assuming that the drums are set up as simple filter sections that can be "rung" by impulses of various amplitudes. The granular part would then come from the impulses being sent into the drums. Send a glitchy impulse stream in, get a granular drum beat out, complete with perfect overlapping of the "grains."

Sean Costello

Sorry, but what are you talking about?

seancostello

Johnisfaster wrote:

seancostello wrote:

qu.one wrote:

a digital drum designer perhaps, with granular capabilities or something else that could set it apart.

"Granular" drums could easily be done with hardware 808 drums, and the analog 909 drums, assuming that the drums are set up as simple filter sections that can be "rung" by impulses of various amplitudes. The granular part would then come from the impulses being sent into the drums. Send a glitchy impulse stream in, get a granular drum beat out, complete with perfect overlapping of the "grains."

Sean Costello

Sorry, but what are you talking about?

"Granular synthesis" usually refers to having streams of overlapping "grains." A "grain," in this case, refers to a snippet of sound, that fades in and out in volume (this is called "windowing") so the grains can be mixed together without abrupt transitions.

An analog drum section is essentially one or more resonant filters in parallel. "Triggering" the drum refers to sending an impulse into the filters, such that they ring out. The natural sound of these filters is a fairly short attack, and a long decay.

By sending random-ish impulses into an analog drum section, the output will essentially be a bunch of "grains," where each one has a sharp attack and a long decay. You could send audio rate impulses in there, and get really glitchy sounds out.

The above explanation ignores pitch envelopes and the like, which will do weird things when triggered at audio rates. But they might be COOL weird things.

Sean Costello

computer controlled

So many modules, so little money.

matttech

Matos wrote:

What!?! Can't wait to see these! Still dying to get my hands on a z8000.

just did!

tIB

^ whore!

the83

Time to make some beats.

mateo

I think there's always room for more if it's done well, and ASol emulations are definitely hit or miss, so I say bring it on!

itijik

I have a boom, but what I really need is a thwack sound. Is there gonna be a thwack module? And what about the ticks and the psshhhhs? I love those.

Also, I think there are way too many claps and bong bongs. Can't someone just make a nice finger snap or record scratch module?

mckenic

I cant afford a 303/808/909 but if these were nicely priced and I could get an OSC303

With these (where did ya find the info BTW? The graphic posted on the Tiptop site?) and the DR-110 Imna be using my modular for something I never thought I would!

NV

zvukoprocessor wrote:

can we have a trigger/gate version of z8000 to go with those? please
8 tracks / 16 steps

Just voicing my support for this idea, particularly with so many drum modules showing up now. I was thrilled when the Doepfer Multi-Trigger Sequencer thing showed up on the radar, but after however many years I'm not too confident it's coming out anytime soon. 4, 6, or even 8 tracks with 16 steps would be fantastic, or even more steps via digital switching similar to the way the Machinedrum works.

ignatius

qu.one wrote:

No offense to TTA, but these particular sounds have been well covered in and out of modular. Personally, I would rather see something completely new and different as far as dedicated drum modules go. i don't know what that is exactly, but i know another set of x0x sounds are not what i am after. again, this is one man's opinion.

a digital drum designer perhaps, with granular capabilities or something else that could set it apart.

+1

if these modules have loads of control and are editable to not sound like what they are modeled after then i may be interested but generally i really don't care to own more 808/909 sounds. 'vintage' drum sounds require a lot of processing imo unless you are just going for dead on vintage sounds in your music.. so, it'd be nice if that processing could be shortcut by allowing for different synthesis options from the source.

that's my 2 cents.

i do own a MFB dr04 bass drum which i like but it never gets used 'dry'. always some processing. i don't want it to sound like itself. if that makes sense.

zvukoprocessor

AntManBee wrote:

zvukoprocessor wrote:

thomas_grey wrote:

...Doepfer had a plan about such a sequencer. Don't know what happened to that project.

ohhhh, them with their plans.... its years in their plans... if all manufacturers were going so slow, we would still be using fucking VSTs

er, Dieter was making analogue synths long before VSTs and will hopefully be doing so long after VSTs have gone away. When you understand the margins involved in modular synth manufacture and take into account that no one offers as many modules as Doepfer (without whom we probably wouldn't be using euro format at all) then it's a little churlish to grumble.

yes indeed, Dieter is involved in designing analog synth since 1979, but the first euro rack modules showed up in 1996, same year as VST SDK was released. So ironically Euro and VST were born the same year.
I have a lot of respect for Dieter for reasons you have mentioned, there is no denying that he is responsible for us all having a blast playing euro. I have 8 Doepfer modules, 2 on the need asap list and at least 6-8 on the "would like to try" list. But there is also no denying that he is extremely slow developing new modules. Him showing that step sequencer just made me crazy, and then nothing.. for years... I really really really really really need something like that, badly, I love ergonomic and playable step sequencers, thats why at 84hp x 12U I have a Klee, that cost a little fortune. Considering that this is euro land its just mind blowing to think what can be done with a proper euro step sequencer combined with logic modules RCDs and SCMs and the likes. I am just loosing my patience... those TTA drum modules, drumdocta, Pittsburgh Generator, the upcoming 4MS pingable envelope generator, super fast HexVCA.... I do understand that its a small market and stuff, but how can it be that people like Intellijel can announce a modules and in a few weeks - babah, here it is! I understand that everyone has its own speed limitations and I respect that. Anyway whoever will release that step sequencer first will get my money.

What I love about Euro is that we have quite a lot of choices. There is something for everyone and if there is not, I bet there will be sooner or later. A lot of choices, but not unlimited like the mentioned VSTs, and that is a good thing. there is a place for Asol roland drum clones, there is a place for TTA's take on the classics, there is a place for the slightly old school MFBs, there is a place for super modern and extremely tasty BLD, I'm sure Harvestman will treat us for something special in that department soon, and there is of coarse always the rest of your modular that is capable of producing unique percussion tones. Choice is good, big variety but still limited is good, euro is great.