It is a bit ironic that DeShields is campaigning to get drafted by the Wings while Davis' Tweeter Mom prays for her to get traded. (Based only on her choice of apparel at the recent Dream game Wilson may prefer a Dallas address next season as well.)

Wilson was there supporting her BFF Gray that why she wore "grays" tip off shirt

The chances of Cambage playing a single game next season for dallas is less than 25%.Injury,trade,exclusive contract with overseas team,and change of heart are all potential obstacles.The long layoff,and Liz's injury history has me concerned.Is she in good enough condition to play a full wnbl season without getting hurt ?..Liz also makes it clear that she wants to play in the wnba again,but not necessarily in dallas.I won't get my hopes up on Liz joining the wings until she makes a verbal commitment,and signs a contract.

Whether Liz shows up or not,acquiring a young starting center with some size should be high on the wings priority list.Dallas should have offered the #4 pick & player to chicago for Dolson & Quigley before the 2017 draft.

Coming from inside sources here in arlington Cambage will be a wing next season zune enough said Weather its 1 season or 20. She will play in Dallas next year, Enough said . How long will you continue to beat this dead horse.

I want Dallas to add DeShields. Then play her alongside Christmas, Davis, Gray and Powers. Then I want hear announcers and coaches talking about how you deal with the Wings wings attack

I would kind of like that too. It would drive Liberty and Sky fans crazy trying to think up trades to get one of the Wings' wings.

Lol. the only players that interest me is Powers and Gray.

Powers injury history scares me but when she is healthy i love her game, she plays with aggressiveness attack mode

I doubt Dallas would want to let go of Gray. NY worked wonders with Sugar and it seems that Davis might be a player with similar shortcomings as Sugar had. Davis needs more discipline, better d, and most of all a reliable 3 point shot. Seems to me that NY did just that with Sugar.

Dallas' inside sources(Phillips) have no say in the matter...nor can they predict how Cambage will mentally/emotionally react when it's time to leave her family.Liz has a history of depression."Separation anxiety disorder" could be the cause.Remember when Cambage missed her scheduled flight from Australia to Tulsa back during the 2012 season ?......I'll believe Cambage is playing for dallas in 2018 when she's in training camp.Until then,dallas needs to make plans on acquiring a starting center who has upside(Stokes,Dolson,Boyette,Coates)

Dallas' inside sources(Phillips) have no say in the matter...nor can they predict how Cambage will mentally/emotionally react when it's time to leave her family.Liz has a history of depression."Separation anxiety disorder" could be the cause.Remember when Cambage missed her scheduled flight from Australia to Tulsa back during the 2012 season ?......I'll believe Cambage is playing for dallas in 2018 when she's in training camp.Until then,dallas needs to make plans on acquiring a starting center who has upside(Stokes,Dolson,Boyette,Coates)

Just Beat It Til You Cant Beat No More Huh ..Your entitled to your opinion , But I will say Judging A players mentality from 6 yrs ago to have some sort of negative outlook on how she operates on a regular basis is trash. Have faith for a change , people grow up too ya know?

Dallas' inside sources(Phillips) have no say in the matter...nor can they predict how Cambage will mentally/emotionally react when it's time to leave her family.Liz has a history of depression."Separation anxiety disorder" could be the cause.Remember when Cambage missed her scheduled flight from Australia to Tulsa back during the 2012 season ?......I'll believe Cambage is playing for dallas in 2018 when she's in training camp.Until then,dallas needs to make plans on acquiring a starting center who has upside(Stokes,Dolson,Boyette,Coates)

Just Beat It Til You Cant Beat No More Huh ..Your entitled to your opinion , But I will say Judging A players mentality from 6 yrs ago to have some sort of negative outlook on how she operates on a regular basis is trash. Have faith for a change , people grow up too ya know?

What does growing up have to do with Cambages' battle with depression ?...I've never called Liz immature or a bad person,not accusing you of saying I did.Dallas hiring Phillips to be Cambages' unofficial chaperone has me feeling some type of way....1.Has Cambage fully recovered from her bout with depression,or does she need friends/family close by to keep her spirits up ?.....and 2.Dallas would've been better off hiring a defensive coach instead of Phillips....The last time Cambage suited up for Tulsa,they were the worst defensive team in the league.If the wings don't change their defensive principles between now and next season,they'll still be the worst defensive team in the league.

I feel about Cambage as I do about high school transfers: I believe it when I see the girl on the court, and I'll believe Cambage is playing for Dallas when she's out there jumping center at the beginning of the game.

Until then, though, I think it would be a mistake, if not a foolish mistake, for the Dallas brain trust (such as it is) to make plans based on the fact that Cambage says she's going to play in the WNBA.

I'm in that group that will believe it when I see her on opening day next season. She could easily have a change of heart and opt to spend the summer(Aussie winter) home for whatever reason she feels like pulling out of her hat.

She has played in China, which is probably more of a culture shock than playing in the US. So it's not like she is afraid to leave native soil. Of course, they were paying her a lot more in the Middle Kingdom.

Dallas' inside sources(Phillips) have no say in the matter...nor can they predict how Cambage will mentally/emotionally react when it's time to leave her family.

They can predict better than you. Why do you keep pushing this family angle? We're talking about Cambage, not Delle Donne.

zune69 wrote:

Liz has a history of depression."Separation anxiety disorder" could be the cause.

You're really reaching here. FOMO is more likely her disease.

zune69 wrote:

Remember when Cambage missed her scheduled flight from Australia to Tulsa back during the 2012 season?

It was from London, and so did Taurasi. Taurasi's excuse was uncomfortable wisdom teeth at age 30. Cambage wanted to attend a birthday party her crew planned for her. That was 5 years ago. Cambage is showing signs of growing up.

zune69 wrote:

I'll believe Cambage is playing for dallas in 2018 when she's in training camp.Until then,dallas needs to make plans on acquiring a starting center who has upside(Stokes,Dolson,Boyette,Coates)

When toad assumed they would draft DeShields, I said the post is still their biggest weakness, regardless of whether Cambage came or not. But I don't necessarily think they need to focus on the center position. Aren't you worried about Paris getting pushed out?

It'll be interesting to see where Dallas ends up drafting. Best available might not be a big, especially if they end up in the lottery without #1. Praying for Azura?

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What does growing up have to do with Cambages' battle with depression?

Why would depression be a factor in anything? Glory Johnson outed Griner for having issues with depression. I wouldn't doubt Glory Johnson or other players have the same issue. Should they all give up playing basketball and lay in bed all day? How do you know Cambage is actually depressed? Is she self-diagnosed or has she talked about getting treatment for it?

zune69 wrote:

I've never called Liz immature or a bad person, not accusing you of saying I did.

An immature person isn't necessarily a bad one, and I think most people would agree that Cambage has been immature. So what? A lot of people are that way. She's still relatively young but 6 years older than when she was drafted.

zune69 wrote:

Dallas hiring Phillips to be Cambages' unofficial chaperone has me feeling some type of way

Listening to Phillips doing color, she comes off as very intelligent and basketball knowledgeable, and every bit as capable as Taylor to do this job.

zune69 wrote:

Has Cambage fully recovered from her bout with depression, or does she need friends/family close by to keep her spirits up?

Again, this is not Delle Donne. It's odd that your treatment for depression is to have family around all the time. Are you an expert in this field?

zune69 wrote:

Dallas would've been better off hiring a defensive coach instead of Phillips.

Taj is one of the best post coaches. They can have both.

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Remember when Cambage missed her scheduled flight from Australia to Tulsa back during the 2012 season?

It was from London, and so did Taurasi.

No, it was from Australia. She returned from London to Australia, and the Shock let her have extra time off in Australia. When she was scheduled to fly to the USA, she missed (skipped) the flight and ultimately decided not to show for the remaining two weeks leaving 2011 and 2013 as the only two years she has played in the WNBA.

They can predict better than you. Why do you keep pushing this family angle? We're talking about Cambage, not Delle Donne.

Based on dallas' questionable history(draft,trades,signings,coaching staff)..I have very little confidence in their decision making/predictions.

Liz Cambage quote:

Quote:

The exceptionally close pair keenly feel the separation when Cambage lives overseas for extended periods, which she has done twice — to play for other teams in China and one season in the WNBA in the US. Cambage will spend from October to February playing for Shanghai.

“It’s hard, I struggle being an only child being away from my family,” she says. “I’ve just got to remember you’re there to get the job done and it does go quickly.”

Shades wrote:

[You're really reaching here. FOMO is more likely her disease.

I wasn't trying to diagnose Cambage.Just giving my opinion based a her interview history,and opting to spend most of her down time in Australia(closer to family/friends)

Shades wrote:

It was from London, and so did Taurasi. Taurasi's excuse was uncomfortable wisdom teeth at age 30. Cambage wanted to attend a birthday party her crew planned for her. That was 5 years ago. Cambage is showing signs of growing up.

Leave Taurasi out of this.......Diana is a top 5 all-time great with multiple championships.DT had played 10 straight years for the wnba,usa basketball,and internationally before tooth-gate.

Shades wrote:

When toad assumed they would draft DeShields, I said the post is still their biggest weakness, regardless of whether Cambage came or not. But I don't necessarily think they need to focus on the center position. Aren't you worried about Paris getting pushed out?

Nope.......Paris had her chance at being the starting center.....dallas needs a defensive post presence/rebounder,or a center who can consistently get them 10-14 pts and rebound.Paris can rebound,but she's not producing enough points.

Shades wrote:

[It'll be interesting to see where Dallas ends up drafting. Best available might not be a big, especially of they end up in the lottery without #1. Praying for Azura?

Why would depression be a factor in anything? Glory Johnson outed Griner for having issues with depression. I wouldn't doubt Glory Johnson or other players have the same issue. Should they all give up playing basketball and lay in bed all day? How do you know Cambage is actually depressed? Is she self-diagnosed or has she talked about getting treatment for it?

Quote from Liz Cambage:

Quote:

BASKETBALL star Liz Cambage has spoken out about her fight with mental illness.

The Opals squad member, who is preparing to fly out to Brazil this week for the Rio Olympics, battled depression in the middle of last year and continues to have to manage the condition.

Some days, the 24-year-old found it difficult to get out of bed.

“I’ve juggled it since I was a teenager, and had a few mental issues here and there,” she said.

“Last year I had depression again and I really, really struggled in China (where she was playing for a Shanghai team in the national competition.)[/

Shades wrote:

An immature person isn't necessarily a bad one, and I think most people would agree that Cambage has been immature. So what? A lot of people are that way. She's still relatively young but 6 years older than when she was drafted.

Some people think cambage is a bad seed.I just wanted to make it clear that my opinions about Liz aren't personal .My "Bad Person" comment has no relation to cambage being perceived as immature.

Shades wrote:

Listening to Phillips doing color, she comes off as very intelligent and basketball knowledgeable, and every bit as capable as Taylor to do this job..

Being a good speaker,and expert at you craft doesn't mean you're a good decision maker or capable of running an organization.I can make a long list of sports commentators who were well spoken and knowledgeable in their sport,only to fail when they became a HC/GM.

Shades wrote:

Again, this is not Delle Donne. It's odd that your treatment for depression is to have family around all the time. Are you an expert in this field?.”

Again...Cambage quptes

Quote:

“It’s hard, I struggle being an only child being away from my family,” she says. “I’ve just got to remember you’re there to get the job done and it does go quickly.”

Quote:

The Opals squad member, who is preparing to fly out to Brazil this week for the Rio Olympics, battled depression in the middle of last year and continues to have to manage the condition.

“Last year I had depression again and I really, really struggled in China (where she was playing for a Shanghai team in the national competition.)

Shades wrote:

Taj is one of the best post coaches. They can have both.

I prefer a defensive coach who knows how to put together defensive schemes for the entire team.

The sad thing is, the Wings really did need a post, and the most successful post to this point from the 2017 draft is... Brionna Jones? She of the 6mpg and 8 DNP-CDs. Plenty of time for them to improve in future years of course (or Coates to be good once she plays), but right now it's an absolutely barren year for bigs.

I would like to say she's just about on the same level of "bust" as plum they straight wasted the #3 pick on her she trash wings came out of no where with that pick and has not paned out, had back to back picks and drafted her b4 gray lol

Did anyone notice Skylar wearing Adidas during the all-star game?!? Is she no longer with Nike??

i stated this in another post but she's been wearing adidas almost all season preseason she had nikes but ya she's not with nike anymore all nike allstar athletes names were on the steps via brunsons ig post and diggings name wasn't there my main thing is if adidas has her now wheres was the major announcement like when ogwumikes switched

Did anyone notice Skylar wearing Adidas during the all-star game?!? Is she no longer with Nike??

i stated this in another post but she's been wearing adidas almost all season preseason she had nikes but ya she's not with nike anymore all nike allstar athletes names were on the steps via brunsons ig post and diggings name wasn't there my main thing is if adidas has her now wheres was the major announcement like when ogwumikes switched

The league is with Adidas. If a player doesn't have a shoe deal that's what they are obligated to wear.

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Did anyone notice Skylar wearing Adidas during the all-star game?!? Is she no longer with Nike??

i stated this in another post but she's been wearing adidas almost all season preseason she had nikes but ya she's not with nike anymore all nike allstar athletes names were on the steps via brunsons ig post and diggings name wasn't there my main thing is if adidas has her now wheres was the major announcement like when ogwumikes switched

The league is with Adidas. If a player doesn't have a shoe deal that's what they are obligated to wear.

this i know she also posted endorsed puma "adidas owned brand" at the kca which is why i think she switched

If there is one coach in the WNBA that needs to be fired after this season, it's Fred Williams. I mean come on. They have a shit load of talent and yet, year after year, they do fuck all.

Vicki Johnson is a questionable coach as well, but I'm willing to give her a free pass this year because of all the fuckups from GM Ruth Riley. I'd fire Riley as GM before I fire Johnson.

Pokey Chatman is safe because the Fever are right where they're supposed to be since the retirement of their franchise player. Same goes for Amber Stocks. She's safe as well since losing EDD to Washington.

Jenny Boucek is also a bad coach but aside from a few starters, it's not like she has much to work with. Last year, they dismantled their roster and rebuilt it but besides Breanna Stewart, Sue Bird and once in a while Crystal Langhorne and Jewell Loyd, they have a pretty terrible roster. The best thing for them would be to miss the playoffs, get a lottery pick, and fire Boucek in that order. Then they can do another partial re-build in the off season. Sadly for the Storm fans and a player like Breanna Stewart, their championship total has ended at two. I don't ever seen them making much noise in the future. They tried to redo the Bird/Jackson combo with Bird/Stewart but Bird has about 2 drops left in her gas tank and Stewart, while a great player, will never be the star Jackson was, and a Loyd/Stewart combo, while possibly strong over the next few years, is NO Bird/Jackson combo.

If there is one coach in the WNBA that needs to be fired after this season, it's Fred Williams. I mean come on. They have a shit load of talent and yet, year after year, they do fuck all.

Vicki Johnson is a questionable coach as well, but I'm willing to give her a free pass this year because of all the fuckups from GM Ruth Riley. I'd fire Riley as GM before I fire Johnson.

Pokey Chatman is safe because the Fever are right where they're supposed to be since the retirement of their franchise player. Same goes for Amber Stocks. She's safe as well since losing EDD to Washington.

Jenny Boucek is also a bad coach but aside from a few starters, it's not like she has much to work with. Last year, they dismantled their roster and rebuilt it but besides Breanna Stewart, Sue Bird and once in a while Crystal Langhorne and Jewell Loyd, they have a pretty terrible roster. The best thing for them would be to miss the playoffs, get a lottery pick, and fire Boucek in that order. Then they can do another partial re-build in the off season. Sadly for the Storm fans and a player like Breanna Stewart, their championship total has ended at two. I don't ever seen them making much noise in the future. They tried to redo the Bird/Jackson combo with Bird/Stewart but Bird has about 2 drops left in her gas tank and Stewart, while a great player, will never be the star Jackson was, and a Loyd/Stewart combo, while possibly strong over the next few years, is NO Bird/Jackson combo.

Breanna Stewarts numbers this (2nd) season are pretty close to LJ's first MVP (in her 3rd season) in 2003 and better then her numbers in her last MVP season in 2010. Yes she will never replace LJ who in my eyes the GOAT but she is having a fantastic 2nd season and its not her that this team is failing

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