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Yeah, yeah I know, power levels are a mess in bleach, but it is always fun seeing the gatting eve messier lol

well, it actually kinda makes sense. in 6th season, toshiro and his gang *barely* managed to beat gillian level arrancars, so if vl > captain, then it's not unbelievable that regular vl's will have a bit more trouble beatng adjuchas arrancars, who > gillian arrancars. And there's the fact that in both cases, they were taken by surprise by someone they've never encountered before.

And of course, I never think of anyone's power level to be constant, cuz pretty much everyone mentioned several times that they were gonna train and get stronger in preparation for the Winter War.

Really, this is just a slap to the face to Halibel fans. Kubo couldn't be bothered to think of a way for her to go out in glory, he had to make Aizen tell everyone that Espadas are no longer important to the plot.

I actually really enjoyed this episode. This is exactly the kind of filler I was hoping for, if we have to go back to fillers soon, I want to see an arc about Ai-chan, Gin, and tousen took over Hueco Mundo.

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Originally Posted by Mr.Amazing

Well this was a cool albeit pointless episode. So I guess arrancar trumps vasto lorde, which I guess makes sense. Halibel was a cool character, I'm sorry to see her go.

Makes sense to me, just like how Byakuya > Ichigo, but Hollow Ichigo > Byakuya.

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Originally Posted by MisterJB

Really, this is just a slap to the face to Halibel fans. Kubo couldn't be bothered to think of a way for her to go out in glory, he had to make Aizen tell everyone that Espadas are no longer important to the plot.

You are a lot more eloquent in expressing your disappointment then when it happened in the manga.

1) Have there been any fillers since episode 272...
2) Will there be fillers very soon?
3) How close is this arc to being finished?
4) Any super awesome good animation cool suspenseful fights since the ichigo vs batman?
5) Thanks ver much i wub u all

well, it actually kinda makes sense. in 6th season, toshiro and his gang *barely* managed to beat gillian level arrancars, so if vl > captain, then it's not unbelievable that regular vl's will have a bit more trouble beatng adjuchas arrancars, who > gillian arrancars. And there's the fact that in both cases, they were taken by surprise by someone they've never encountered before.

it was more like Toshiro and Co. were fighting a handicap match since they only had 1/5th of their strength for most of it and even though they took a ton of damage, once they were at full power, it was a no contest bout.

Yeah, yeah I know, power levels are a mess in bleach, but it is always fun seeing the gatting eve messier lol

actually a normal Vl is technically stronger than a captain based on this episode and some past episode showing this
Hitsugaya vs Halibel- Tia easily had the upper hand over Hitsugaya. If Tia is a Vl then Vl are stronger than a captain's level shinigami

Barragan vs Hacchi- Hacchi may have won, but Barragan could have won. Because of Barragan ability to age anything he touches all Hachi had to do was place that ability back onto him

Starrk vs Kyoraku- I won't go into this fight much, but the winner of this fight was Kyoraku simply because he shikai obviously triumphs any hollow of any form.

While I did enjoy this pseudo filler episode on its own merits, it will prove incredibly annoying to the Bleach canon if it is considered a part of it. If Bleach even has canon at this point. Also, Hallibel looks like an arrancar the entire episode to me, and the shark thing seemed to not have a sword, though it may have already released. Also, Hallibel gets an entire death episode, and we still know nothing about Ulquiorra's story. Sigh. I was really hoping to find out that he really was L.

1) Have there been any fillers since episode 272...
2) Will there be fillers very soon?
3) How close is this arc to being finished?
4) Any super awesome good animation cool suspenseful fights since the ichigo vs batman?
5) Thanks ver much i wub u all

actually a normal Vl is technically stronger than a captain based on this episode and some past episode showing this
Hitsugaya vs Halibel- Tia easily had the upper hand over Hitsugaya. If Tia is a Vl then Vl are stronger than a captain's level shinigami

not really...
Halibel was NOT a normal Vasto Lorde, she was an arrancarized Vasto Lordo which should be WAY stronger (not to mention that hitsugaya is arguably one of the weaker captains). By all means she should have wiped the floor with Hitsugaya quite easily, much like how Grimjow beat the living shit out of non-vizard ichigo

In fact the first grimjow vs ichigo fight illustrates well how these fights SHOULD have gone down if the power levels made sense. Ichigo was captain level himself, just below byakuya in terms of strength, and yet even with Bankai he did not have a prayer against a non-released Grimjow... Now Stark and Halibel, being even stronger than Grimjow, SHOULD have been able to do the same, completely storming the battlefield without even the need to release their true power. Releasing would have meant an instant game over for the SS captains...

In the end, it really should have been the vizard captains that should have really saved the day... between vizard masks, and their Bankai, they should have had the strength to do what Ichigo did to Grim when he used HIS vizard powers... and that would be fight toe to toe with their released forms.

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Barragan vs Hacchi- Hacchi may have won, but Barragan could have won. Because of Barragan ability to age anything he touches all Hachi had to do was place that ability back onto him

Barragan I would say is probably the ONLY espada who has so far lived up to the Vasto Lorde reputation... And not so much because of his aging powers (which are just horribly broken to the point where it is baffling how he hasn't killed Aizen yet), but by the fact that he was able to take a direct hit with Soi fon's Bankai and come out with only a minor (atleast that's how he made it seem) injury... See now THAT's the kind of power I expect from an arrancarized Vasto Lorde, so strong that a captain has trouble doing ANY damage; hell the captains should probably have trouble just landing a hit

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Starrk vs Kyoraku- I won't go into this fight much, but the winner of this fight was Kyoraku simply because he shikai obviously triumphs any hollow of any form.

Now that i have a hard time buying...
I would expect Stark to have the speed and reflexes to block or dodge such attacks... and Hell, bringing up Barragan again, i would expect Stark to have the defense and stamina to just shrug off such an attack... really are expected to believe that Kyoraku's shikai attack was so vastly stronger than Soi fon's nuke bankai? Compared to Barry's defence, Stark just comes off as weak.