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This focus on SSD and how they are using it, sounds like not just a focus on loading, but streaming. As in , not just culling detail but actually streaming it even in tight spaces just like culling. There is also some talk about a new way to manage LODs wich is interesting, because ND's LODs were impressive but is probably better?

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So the "Developers Conference" that wasnt be able to held at GDC due to Corona was now online for everyone. They dont aim it at players but everyone is complaining anyway. Whoever expected a reveal.... your fault.

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ps5 success is important to sony‘s health. This console sounds hot as fuck and energy hungry meaning expensive with mediocre performance. 36 cus @high freq is a bad way to go. This thing was supposed to be <9.2 for sure.

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yep, im a sony dude this gen, and its a shame to hear that the ps5 will be the lesser box, but the almost perfect retrocompat and the non propietary m.2 ssd swingle my decision. I hope that at least the price is lower.

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I almost feel bad now cause I was always sorta joking but feels like 90% of the poking at Sony that i did on here actually came to fruition... wtf did Sony just do to themselves? I cant believe this i totally expected around 11tf without overclocking etc. Ouch.

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yep, im a sony dude this gen, and its a shame to hear that the ps5 will be the lesser box, but the almost perfect retrocompat and the non propietary m.2 ssd swingly my decision. I hope that at least the price is lower.

XBOX is going to have to deliver some good games, otherwise I'm better off spending that money upgrading my gaming PC. PS5 all the way for better performing PS4 games and better exclusives moving forward.

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When I saw the presentation was titled "Road to PS5," my expectations shifted to this being nothing more than a numbers-on-screen session. Sony had to unveil this info eventually, but by not providing any additional spice with their numbers, they'll now be looking at lots of negative rumblings over their perceived weaker hardware.

As it stands, nothing has sold me on either the next PS or XB, but had it been my decision at Sony, I'd at least have shown the console's physical design (and the controller, if possible).

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Honesty, 3D audio isn't a big deal for me outside of VR - seems like such a weird area to spend so much time, research and processing power on. variable GPU clock speed also sounds worrisome, how can developers keep things at a smooth 60fps if different people are going to be running different GPU clocks because their system has been running longer/hotter.

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It seems Cerny has created a wonderful piece of technology. Lots of SSD, Audio customisations went into PS5.

Let's see how 2.2Ghz ( unimaginably high) at 36CUs (narrow and fast) vs Xbox (wide and slower) can compare.
Lets see how the RT performance can be affected by such high clocks.

Im really happy about PS5 specs, of course I wished of a bigger TF number but after the stream, I think Cerny convinced me that Sacrificing a small TF number for the huge improvements in the SSD and Audio hopefully for a reasonably priced package can be a fantastic deal and totally worth it.

I would like to apologize for the Githubbers especially that twitter dude and @R600

You seem like the only level headed person here. Very different approaches and will be interesting to see what happens. Its funny cause hearing Cerny explained the "benefits" of running at a higher speed sounded interesting to me, but for some, it just sounded like damage control.

I'm pretty satisfied by the specs. Wish they had games to show. But, they're close enough and the approaches are different, so those number may mean nothing. But I don't know, i'm not going to sit here an play armchair hardware engineer here.

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Github was mostly correct then. They've just been able to clock it higher, so it comes to 10.3 TF.

I think Sony should've really tried to do more CUs, but it actually sounds like they didn't want to in part due to BC and cost. Don't feel too great about that. The SSD stuff is interesting, seems to be incredibly fast. So it will be cool to see how first party games can leverage that speed. But overall, the presentation was pretty boring, especially without any tech demos.

Microsoft is in a pretty good position for next gen. PS5 and XSX seem to be aiming for entirely different things, so it will be interesting to see what the general public will think. I think next gen will be extremely competitive, and it's good to see that MS has learned from all of their mistakes with last gen. Sony really needs to be careful with the pricing, especially with Lockhart.