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Sound System for 2001 Ski Sanger V210 Any Advice?

I have a Sanger V210 (open bow) and will be puttng several thousand into

sound system and need advice.

I have a tower but do not want to hang speakers on it. My listening goals are for inside the boat not for the rest of the lake. So far, components are going to be: Cassette unit with CD changer control, remote control (wired preferred),

technology to accomodate bumps without too much skipping, mounted ??? One 12" woofer mounted in box and installed under drivers side dash, One 4 channel amp, one 2 channel amp, mounted in passenger side storage,

Four speakers in***pit, mounted ????

Any and all suggestions on install, types of components, experiences welcome.

It is nice to see that someone is more interested in sound quality then being cool. I agree that you need something to combat skipping, have you looked at MD. Not only is it much more convenient everywhere, but it will not skip in the boat, and you don't have to worry about scratching your CD's when the water gets rough. I have a Sony MD reciever with a 10 disc Cd changer, and that is what I would recommend. You can get a wired remote for Sonys for about 20 dollars. As far as speakers and amps go, stick with a reputable manufacture and you should be fine. The most important thing is to mount the amps where they will be safe from equipment, and from water. For speakers you will want to mount them where they are protected, but also where they have the best chance of recreating a lifelike sound stage. Maybe on the dash, and somewhere else in the***pit? Also, do you want the people in the bow to be able to hear the tunes? Let me know if you have anymore questions. Jason

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> I have a Sanger V210 (open bow) and will be puttng several thousand into

> sound system and need advice.

> I have a tower but do not want to hang speakers on it. My listening > goals are for inside the boat not for the rest of the lake. > So far, components are going to be: > Cassette unit with CD changer control, remote control (wired preferred),

> technology to accomodate bumps without too much skipping, mounted ??? > One 12" woofer mounted in box and installed under drivers side dash, > One 4 channel amp, one 2 channel amp, mounted in passenger side storage,

> Four speakers in***pit, mounted ????

> Any and all suggestions on install, types of components, experiences > welcome.

I currently have a 1999 MC SportStar open bow with a sound system i picked out and had installed.

I have a Pioneer DEHP-4100 single disk changer with multiple cd controls. It came with a slim remote(wireless) which works wonders. With the wireless remote i can change the volume without even looking at the cd player from anywhere in the boat. the cd player rarely skips. only in extreme rough water will it skip once.

I also have an 8" Bazooka tube mounted with and amp and a crossover all under the passengers seat. The cd player has the capability to change the power distribution from the highs-mids-lows. For speakers i have 4 6.5" Pioneer marine speakers that were 2 for $75. Pioneer also has the next step up speakers for $150 for 2 with twice the power.The whole system sounds great inside the boat but from the water you really don't hear it.

I would recommend looking at any of the components i have mentioned. of course there are many good products out there. scoke

>Thanks for comments. Sanger plans for decks to go into glove box and build >a slanted back wall inside to tilt face to a viewable position. Nice >thought, but creates some limits. One is, wireless remotes don't work well.

Go with Sony, Clarion or one of the others with a wired remote. There is also an IR extender that you can use.

Thanks for comments. Sanger plans for decks to go into glove box and build a slanted back wall inside to tilt face to a viewable position. Nice thought, but creates some limits. One is, wireless remotes don't work well. Second, Sanger left out any places for speakers. Installing requires cutting vinyl or fiberglass. One suggestion given for front speaker location was in the walk-through to the bow. I thought they would cancel each other because of the face to face mounting and closeness. Where are your fronts?

Bruce

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> I currently have a 1999 MC SportStar open bow with a sound system i > picked out and had installed.

> I have a Pioneer DEHP-4100 single disk changer with multiple cd > controls. It came with a slim remote(wireless) which works wonders. > With the wireless remote i can change the volume without even looking > at the cd player from anywhere in the boat. the cd player rarely skips. > only in extreme rough water will it skip once.

> I also have an 8" Bazooka tube mounted with and amp and a crossover all > under the passengers seat. The cd player has the capability to change > the power distribution from the highs-mids-lows. For speakers i have 4 > 6.5" Pioneer marine speakers that were 2 for $75. Pioneer also has the > next step up speakers for $150 for 2 with twice the power.The whole > system sounds great inside the boat but from the water you really don't > hear it.

> I would recommend looking at any of the components i have mentioned. of > course there are many good products out there. > scoke

Thanks for the comments. It looks like Sony is coming up with most recommendations because of anti shock and remote. MD is interesting but I know very little about availability of disks. Do I have to record my own? Bruce

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> It is nice to see that someone is more interested in sound quality then > being cool. I agree that you need something to combat skipping, have you > looked at MD. Not only is it much more convenient everywhere, but it will > not skip in the boat, and you don't have to worry about scratching your CD's > when the water gets rough. I have a Sony MD reciever with a 10 disc Cd > changer, and that is what I would recommend. You can get a wired remote for > Sonys for about 20 dollars. As far as speakers and amps go, stick with a > reputable manufacture and you should be fine. The most important thing is > to mount the amps where they will be safe from equipment, and from water. > For speakers you will want to mount them where they are protected, but also > where they have the best chance of recreating a lifelike sound stage. Maybe > on the dash, and somewhere else in the***pit? Also, do you want the > people in the bow to be able to hear the tunes? Let me know if you have > anymore questions. > Jason

> > I have a Sanger V210 (open bow) and will be puttng several thousand into

> > sound system and need advice.

> > I have a tower but do not want to hang speakers on it. My listening > > goals are for inside the boat not for the rest of the lake. > > So far, components are going to be: > > Cassette unit with CD changer control, remote control (wired preferred),

> >Thanks for comments. Sanger plans for decks to go into glove box and build > >a slanted back wall inside to tilt face to a viewable position. Nice > >thought, but creates some limits. One is, wireless remotes don't

work well.

The best place for the front speakers is on top of the dash, both sides, for optimal sound while driving. The sound bounces off the windshield directly into you. Only problem is that you don't have pre- drilled holes from the manufacturer. Most new boats that I've seen have the front speakers mounted this way. If you have to install, you probably have to remove the windshield to drill the holes or be really good at guessing!

In terms of stereo placement, I agree with Tom, you can buy an infra- red extender cheap. You can find them on the net, any search engine. I found a few that had up to 20 foot wire extender with eye that can be mounted anywhere. Get creative and you can wire it up to the top of the windshield or up a tower if you have one and be able to use the remote from anywhere in the boat at any position/angle. Great for when you're floating.

Word of advise on amps/cd changers, make sure you mount them off the floor by at least 4-6 inches. I had a buddy who didn't and someone driving did a bow wash and soaked the floor, even into the storage area and ruined his equipment.

Think about adding a second battery and a perko switch if you get into amps and a sub.

If you're looking for quality sound, think about 3 way speakers. If your glove box does not lock, look at detachable face decks.

I've got JVC deck, speakers and changer in mine and they sound very good and are plenty loud. 45 watt x4.

In terms of amps and a sub, Rockford Fosgate makes premium quality stuff and is reasonably priced (Best Buy type stores). I did a 12 inch sub and a 250 watt amp for just under $200 and made a speaker box for around $20 that fits nicely under the driver dash (assuming you have no heater)

Bruce, you can buy prerecorded discs off websites. Check out http://SportToday.org/ you will find everything you want to know there. While you can buy discs, when was the last time you bought a CD and liked every song on it? That is what is so great about MD: copy the CD, and listen to it a few times, then if you don't like some of the songs erase them and replace them with songs from other discs you do like. You can even rearange the order of the tracks whenever you want. I guarentee that if you try MD you will want it for everything (car, house, portable to workout with) Check out the link and then email me if you have any questions. Jason

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> Thanks for the comments. It looks like Sony is coming up with most > recommendations because of anti shock and remote. > MD is interesting but I know very little about availability of disks. Do I have > to record my own? > Bruce

> > It is nice to see that someone is more interested in sound quality then > > being cool. I agree that you need something to combat skipping, have you > > looked at MD. Not only is it much more convenient everywhere, but it will > > not skip in the boat, and you don't have to worry about scratching your CD's > > when the water gets rough. I have a Sony MD reciever with a 10 disc Cd > > changer, and that is what I would recommend. You can get a wired remote for > > Sonys for about 20 dollars. As far as speakers and amps go, stick with a > > reputable manufacture and you should be fine. The most important thing is > > to mount the amps where they will be safe from equipment, and from water. > > For speakers you will want to mount them where they are protected, but also > > where they have the best chance of recreating a lifelike sound stage. Maybe > > on the dash, and somewhere else in the***pit? Also, do you want the > > people in the bow to be able to hear the tunes? Let me know if you have > > anymore questions. > > Jason

> > > I have a Sanger V210 (open bow) and will be puttng several thousand into

> > > sound system and need advice.

> > > I have a tower but do not want to hang speakers on it. My listening > > > goals are for inside the boat not for the rest of the lake. > > > So far, components are going to be: > > > Cassette unit with CD changer control, remote control (wired preferred),