You guys are crying too much, have you even played ptr and tried it out? if not you shouldnt be crying this much. Wait for the season and give it a go man, god...

PTR is the place where powershot crits global you and rogues kill you in cheap shot, and mages do 120k frostbolts with all cds :<
oh ye dont forgett dks haviing second wind from 100% hp and doing insane damage good shit

^ If you are somewhat in the need of constant posting, at least don't post bs. Post about stuff you actually know.

what of the above was BS? i myself crited 121k on a fellow mage in a duel using all procs/cds even ecnounters ward.

and a mate made a hunter and gemed like most hunters do, poped rapid fire ( 3.5k pvp power i believe) and he did a 276k crit on me 0.o (feel free to do one yourself)

and Dks do infact have a second wind from 100%, it drains runic power however, and Disc is going to be insane compared to it is/was in start of mop, the rogue (cheap shot example above) was not meant to be a bad change, i support buffs of rogues but maybe not in the same way you do/blizzard. and i dont throw useless coments to blacklist someone.

if you do have the urgy to throw BS at me, please backit up thanks and before you comment

this post is not meant to be a hatefest nor a urgy to show something, i just wanted to post the changes n see what ppl thought, cheers

I find it highly amusing that there are people who STILL continue to say "Oh they're doing better now! They're listening to us! Balance is always shit, and there are always periods of time where it seems like things will really be different this time. Early cata there were tons of relatively quick balance changes, but they completely stop as the expansion progresses because theyre working on the next expansion. s13 will be the same as every other season, some classes will be stupidly overpowered while others are underpowered, pvp will ALWAYS take the backseat to pve in this game. Accept that or find a different game.

Rogues don't kill anything in a cheapshot, not even close source: 50 games of 2v2 with 2 different rogues, 30 games of 3v3 with a rogue.
"Disc is gonna be insane", wrong it just got obliterated the day before you posted dmg changes. You altered your response to it will be insane comparing to what it was, but this is not what you said nor meant, hence the bs'ing before altering. Also that's stating the obvious, I think it's close to impossible to make it worse than how it is now.

Also for people who qq about the sp dmg buff, I think it won't be noticeable after the glyph of mindspike change on single target level.

Rogues don't kill anything in a cheapshot, not even close source: 50 games of 2v2 with 2 different rogues, 30 games of 3v3 with a rogue.
"Disc is gonna be insane", wrong it just got obliterated the day before you posted dmg changes. You altered your response to it will be insane comparing to what it was, but this is not what you said nor meant, hence the bs'ing before altering. Also that's stating the obvious, I think it's close to impossible to make it worse than how it is now.

Also for people who qq about the sp dmg buff, I think it won't be noticeable after the glyph of mindspike change on single target level.

Rogues don't kill anything in a cheapshot, not even close source: 50 games of 2v2 with 2 different rogues, 30 games of 3v3 with a rogue.
"Disc is gonna be insane", wrong it just got obliterated the day before you posted dmg changes. You altered your response to it will be insane comparing to what it was, but this is not what you said nor meant, hence the bs'ing before altering. Also that's stating the obvious, I think it's close to impossible to make it worse than how it is now.

Also for people who qq about the sp dmg buff, I think it won't be noticeable after the glyph of mindspike change on single target level.

if you open hydra;s stream right now, it's quite clear that disc is anything but obliterated

justchecking, on 10 November 2014 - 11:58 PM, said:

Going to blizzcon looking for a fight is like going to the official wow arena forums for pvp advice :)

Renaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

It has everything to do with the patch. A crit heal used to be 2 x heal + divine aegis., now a crit heal is 1 x heal + divine aegis(equal to 1x heal). Now with every healing cooldown, buff , proc up you do 75k flash heal crit in arena, so necrotics are never cleared. Also it's really hard to pick people up when they are low, they just get executed over and over again because half of the crit heal goes to a shield.