The Internet Has Started Apologizing To Zack Snyder After Watching Batman v Superman Ultimate Edition

Remember a couple months back, when we had that fiasco with the much anticipated Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, the follow-up to Man of Steel? Of course you remember. At first, the opinions seemed pretty split, with critics slamming it, and fans loving it. But as time went on, many started to turn on the filmmaker, who also did the first installment. Petitions started to rise, to get Zack Snyder out of his contract, and not have a hand in the conclusion to his trilogy, that being Justice League.

Now, in a surprising turn of events, people are starting to back-pedal, and actually apologize to Snyder. Why is that? The Ultimate Edition, a director’s cut which sees Snyder’s full, three-hour, R-rated vision, was planned for the Blu-Ray release. But you know the internet. Hell, you are the internet. Patience is not a virtue in this instant society. Does it surprise you any that the Ultimate Edition was leaked? And while it has been leaked, it has proved to be very beneficial. Fans and critics are watching it, and enjoying the shit out of it.

And in turn, they realize that all those ill words they spoke about Zack Snyder were in vain. They see his true vision, and realize that he knew what he was doing, and will know what he’s doing with Justice League. Not only are they apologizing, are cool with him still doing Justice League, but they are also urging Warner Brothers to let Snyder release his vision for his final installment unscathed.

Here’s a sample of some of the tweets out there:

I would like to apologize to @ZackSnyder I hated on the original version but his ultimate edition of #BatmanvSuperman is really really good

Going back 2 weeks, I don’t see one use of the word apologize or sorry.

Marc Anthony Ortiz

“Sure let’s display the hundreds of tweets that were posted.” No one needs to convince you

JaySBee

Actually, when you write an article that makes a claim, it kind of becomes your job to convince me that you are telling the truth by giving me more than three quotes from Twitter.

So, yes. Someone DOES need to convince me. Unless this was written for your close buddies, you need to convince me because you wrote it to me, too. Right?

But getting really huffy or being the one person who hits the “like” button on the person who got huffy is CERTAINLY convincing me of one thing: I have less respect for the writer than I did when I read the story. Good job on that.

No more like 90% of the people who’ve seen the ultimate cut… and that’s a lot.

Robert Shepard

Im still not cool with Batman killing people, incidentally or not.

John Paul Marchand

I hear they explain in Justice League that it was a phase for Batman. He went “dark” for a time, but will not continue to kill people.

Samet Okutan

Is that even an argument ? Batman KILLS actually. Yeah, here and there, there are versions of Batman who are against killing. But Snyders Batman just lost himself and therefore the trust in people. (“20 years in gotham alfred…”; “we are criminals”; etc.) – I mean 20 YEARS (!) being Batman. He encountered the Joker, lost Robin and probably a lot of other friends and foes…. And he killed in a lot of comics too. And i never heard people complaining about Tim Burtons Batman movies, where he kills dozens of people. So where do you draw the line here?

I think it makes sense, seeing Batman like that. And Superman struggling with being a “good person”.

Most people watched the UC probably fresh and with paying attention to stuff – and are now actually pleased.

Melanie Parker

Everyone seems to forget the fat guy in Tim Burton’s Batman Returns who had a cluster of dynamite shoved down his pants before being thrown in a gutter to explode…. BY BATMAN!

And the devil he torched. And the guy he threw down the starwell of the bell tower. And the… you get the drift. Batman has killed tons of times.

islander21

there is also the fact that Keaton SHOT FROM A PLANE AT NICHOLSON’S JOKER and repeatedly missed. I’m sure it was just a “shot over the bow” and not the fact that Batman kills but is a crappy shot. Batman is the A Team apparently.

The whole Batman killing thing is actually kind of addressed in the ultimate edition. Gotham citizens basically say, yeah he’s back, but he’s different. It doesn’t throw it in your face but its hinting that he’s killing and he didn’t used to. You kinda have to watch it to see what I mean. The whole killing thing is not just something Snyder threw in there because he thought it was cool. He actually made a full story out of it. Which is why he’s kinda changing his ways in the JL movie. He knows he made mistakes for being so pissed lol.

islander21

Why do you think Batman doesn’t kill? I’ll bet u loved the Tim Burton Batman. Did you think he wasn’t trying to kill Nicholson’s Joker when shooting from the Batplane, or do you just prefer a Batman who is a lousy shot? Batman does kill and has killed in comics. Considering the source material Snyder relied upon- Miller’s Dark Knight, he does more than kill, he tortures too.

Simone Perini

In TDKR Batman didn’t kill anyone. He tried to kill Joker, and he could’t. When he shot to the mutant with the baby, there’s a hole in the wall where was the gun and there’s a grey stain of soot, maybe for the explosion of the gun, not blood as Snyder said. But, more important thing, in Burton’s version, Batman kills criminals. Even Joker. In BvS he tried to kill the world greatest hero just for fear, without any kind of investigation in 18 months and changed idea for a not-checked coincidence. That was a very bad choice. They wrote Batman as a demented villain, and now he is the leader of the “Justice” League.

cwegener

This is the best Batman ever seen on the big screen. And yeah, Batman kills.

shopat

Agree

Gabriel Sa Pinto

And you’re cool with Batman from the comics letting Joker murder hundreds of people? Those deaths are on Batman’s hands, because he didn’t have the guts to finish him off once and for all, and because he’s afraid to become him… That’s selfishness and bullshit right there.

PHILL SHIVELY

I Have no Issues with a Batman Who kills heck when i play the Batman ARKAHM Games i kill people throwing people off a ledge into an abys in the botanical Gardens evry time i hang a thug upside down from a gargoyle then use the batarang to Cut the Rope as they fall onto their head breaking their kneck AFTER I KNOCK Them out in ARKAHM KNIGHT I OPEN UP With live MACHINE GUN Torrets on Unconscious thugs it’s hidden but for the Dedicated Batman Fans their are ways to kill in the ARKAHM Verse 🙂

JC Melon

My opinion has changed.

Initially, I thought it was an overblown mess of muddy character motivation, with a trailer for Justice League clumsily crow-barred in. That nonetheless had some visual flair and a little badass-ery from Batman and Wonder Woman…

But now!? Now it’s also waaaaay too long.

Ade Perwira

Yup just like civil war

JaySBee

Yeah, because it has to be about comparing Marvel and DC, not liking or disliking a movie on its own merits. Biased much?

JC Melon

I think Civil War’s character motivations were pretty sound.

Voice of Reason

Sorry but as a Marvel-DC fan, I think this is a sign of bias:

I enjoyed Civil War immensely more BUT, some of the same flaws pointed out in BVS are evident in it as well.

Here are just a few:

If you have a problem with Batman’s motivations, Cap’s motivations throughout the movie are also equally muddled. (I didn’t mind it but being objective here) Both come from the same place. A noble but flawed hero making flawed emotionally overrun, uncharacteristic and damaging decisions.

Of all major characters in both movies, Iron-Man actually had the clearest defined motivations. BUT, he had to be set up with that woman at the Elevator. It was not built up over time and therefore not reflective of his character in past movies. (Hell, Ultron was HIS fault and it didn’t seem to be as big an issue in AoU)

Also, both could have benefited from more time in post production. The Doomsday sequences AND the Airport fight scene were both sloppy.

I enjoyed both movies! That’s the advantage of not being blinded by all this DC vs Marvel crap. ( Marvel/DC Zombies be like: Must…hate…other brand! They…cannot…succeed…)

But also, both were FLAWED. So WHAT!? Hell, Usual Suspects had its flaws and it’s one of my all-time favorites.

The Ultimate Cut is MUCH better, albeit still having some sequences that bothered me with the first. Still, it is a much better introduction of the extended DCEU than the theatrical release.

Civil War is NOT the best Marvel movie out there as fanboys love to claim. (Winter Soldier, Guardians of the Galaxy and the first Avengers movie still better by a mile. But that airplane sequence, despite the bad post work, was by far the most fun sequence yet)

I loved it though. Black Panther is awesome, Falcon remained cool, Spider-man is finally authentic, Ant-man was fun! But…Zemo was bland. War Machine should’ve died (so stakes would have been real. Hell, this would’ve been a better death than Quicksilver’s weak one in AoU.) Iron-man and Cap made the same level of bonehead decisions that Superman and Batman made. But if you accept that all four characters were coming from damaged emotional spaces, then it makes sense.

JC Melon

I think bias is a very loaded term. I have just enjoyed the Marvel movies so very much more than the two from DC.

It’s not a Marvel bias, in 2008 when Edward Norton was the Hulk and Heath Ledger played the Joker, I know which film I rated higher. It wasn’t the Marvel one.

If I have a preference for the Marvel films it’s probably because over 14 or so films they have gradually earned so much more good will.

Marvel movies aren’t perfect, the continuity of Tony’s character from Iron Man 3 to present is a bit suspect, for example. Destroying all his suits at the end of IM3 and having a whole new set for AoU, with only one line to explain it. I can forgive that shit. They’ve earned it.

FWIW I thought the FX, and action choreography of the airport scene was far better than the Doomsday fight. Yet you’re right there are some plastic looking shots in the Marvel movie.

The Batman (saving Martha scene) in BvS was coolAF.

I’m glad you liked them both. Good on you. Enjoy them! I just don’t agree. I liked Cap3 so much more, would watch it again.

I didn’t like BvS and having watched it twice now, I know I will never return to it.

Voice of Reason

The action choreography of the airport scene was indeed brilliant (easily the BEST yet in ALL superhero movies) which is why it bothers me more that they didn’t spend more time working on the backgrounds! It really looked flat and lacking in depth. And that’s not even hard! (I work with film production a lot but for advertising.) So I blame someone RUSHING the damn thing. It should have been the perfect sequence! (I cheered the first time, then I noticed it on the second viewing)

Manoj Varughese

I never returned to any Marvel movies except for Caps 2. there was that stuff between Bucky and Steve that kept the movie thrilling and connected with audience. Caps 3 felt like an overblown mess at times and missed the mark. Just grossed more from hype being post Ultron like IM3 hype post Avengers 1. IM3 performed on a better note as being less expensive to produce, no much Avengers ensemble as Caps3 or no Spidey.

Daniel O’Reilly

Leaked? It’s available through iTunes. Google Play, Vudu, etc.

☠Stunt Mike☠

was leaked a weak before

JaySBee

You misspelled “week”.

Then, again…

Josh Homer

The Ultimate edition fleshes out some plot points, but it also creates more inconsistencies. Still not a good movie. And yes “Martha” plot point is still just as dumb.

islander21

But Tony Stark creating Spidey’s suit, Aunt Mae being Marisa Tomei and Capt making out with Agent Carter’s niece…those weren’t plot holes I’m sure. I loved BvS, loved 1st Avengers film and Winter Soldier. CW was ok, but had plot holes. Time to open your mind to possibilities.

Trevor Miller

Do you think another movie having a dumb plot point magically makes “WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!?!?!” into inspired writing? More than one movie can have a stupid piece of writing without it making either one better.

Trevor Miller

Do you think another movie having a dumb plot point magically makes “WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!?!?!” into inspired writing? More than one movie can have a stupid piece of writing without it making either one better.

Adam Woods

The Spidey suit is a child’s toy compared to the Ironman suit. The goggles, belt, and web shooters are modified versions of what was already available. The suit itself is probably a titanium/carbon fiber weave. Strong enough to survive a day in the life of Spider-man, self cleaning and lightweight. It doesn’t even have to be that lightweight for a kid that can stop a car.

Capt America just has a thing for Carter’s. He also had a thing for her when she was spying on him. Not really out of left field.

Nothing says Aunt May has to be extremely old. Marisa Tormei is also 50 years old right now. That puts her at 34 when Peter was born. Peter could easily have been her kid. Also, nothing says that she was a young bride or that Ben was the younger brother. 50 years old is different today than it was in the 60s.

Reza Malik

No, Stark making the Spidy suit isn’t a plot hole. Aunt Mae being Marisa Tomei isn’t a plot hole. Rogers making out with Agent 13 isn’t a plot hole. Do you even know what a plot hole is?! Just because you didn’t like something in the story doesn’t mean it’s a plot hole.

John Smith

2:13:32
Martha only confused Batman. Lois then came in and told him that Lex was behind all of this, that’s why he had to go after Lex and team up with Superman.

Josh Homer

But it shouldn’t have. Batman spent 18 months plotting to kill superman. During that time he found out his secret id, therefore he already knew Klark’s mother’s name. As a plot device Supes saying “Martha” was idiotic.

John Smith

1) Batman didn’t spend 18 months plotting to kill superman. Lex spent time plotting to kill Superman. What Batman did was that he prepared a contingency plan in case Superman going rogue.

“Bruce Wayne: He has the power to wipe out the entire human race, and if we believe there’s even a one percent chance that he is our enemy we have to take it as an absolute certainty… and we have to destroy him.

Alfred: But he is not our enemy!

Bruce Wayne: Not today. Twenty years in Gotham, Alfred; we’ve seen what promises are worth. How many good guys are left? How many stayed that way?”

2) Batman had no idea that Superman is Clark Kent. He always thought Superman is a alien with power of God, sent to us with a mission. Who would think that a God has a mother on Earth?

3) Batman is not a regular guy who lost his mother, the guy is traumatized, is haunted by it, he has nightmare every night and feels the pain, the loss every day. He devotes all his life to fight criminals, so that he could feel less pain and more peace in his mind every moment he does so. He couldn’t get pass that loss. Of couse telling him to save Martha would confuse him.

Josh Homer

1) Zod/Supes battle happens. At that point Batman decides to destroy Superman. The movie then says 18 months later. You know 18 months of cross fit and pulling tires.

2) Batman believes he has the power of God, not that he is one. BvS took place in the same ethos as Superman. Remember Zod and company going on TV stating Superman was an alien.

3) No. This plot point makes zero sense. I could write a book on it, but it’s all been said. Just google Batman v Superman Martha for the thousands of articles that pick this idiotic lazy plot point apart. You’re the 1st Zach Snyder apologist to not concede the blaring inconsistency.

John Smith

LOL clearly you didn’t understand the movie.
1) He started hating Superman since that battle, he didn’t spend time plotting to kill superman since then. He prepared a contingency plan in case Superman going rogue. See here:

“Bruce Wayne: He has the power to wipe out the entire human race, and if we believe there’s even a one percent chance that he is our enemy we have to take it as an absolute certainty… and we have to destroy him.

Alfred: But he is not our enemy!

Bruce Wayne: Not today. Twenty years in Gotham, Alfred; we’ve seen what promises are worth. How many good guys are left? How many stayed that way?”

He is fully aware that Superman is not his enemy at the moment, and that’s your 18 months later. But he had a plan to destroy Superman if it is needed. In the comic, even when Batman and Superman are best friends, Batman still has a plan to destroy Superman as well as the whole Justice League.

2) I said, “Batman had no idea that Superman is Clark Kent. He always thought Superman is an alien with power of God, sent to us with a mission.”

3) People simply don’t understand Batman. Batman is not a regular guy who lost his mother, the guy is traumatized, is haunted by it, he has nightmare every night and feels the pain, the loss every day. He devotes all his life to fight criminals, so that he could feel less pain and more peace in his mind every moment he does so. He couldn’t get pass that loss. Of course telling him to save his mother would confuse him. 2:13:32 Martha only confused Batman. Lois then came in and told him that Lex was behind all of this, that’s why he had to go after Lex and team up with Superman. There are also thousands of articles explaining that scene for people who don’t understand it. Just google it.

Josh Homer

LOL. Since me and a ton of other people don’t agree with you, we don’t understand the movie. Dismissive much?

1) so the battle happens and batman is like “oh I hate that superman. You know what, I’m going to wait and come up with a plan at a later date to deal with him”? And yet you say it’s me who doesn’t understand the character. Batman has spent months preparing (18 to be exact) to rid the world of superman.

2) Batman knows who Klark is. He’s the world’s greatest detective. Lex figured it out. Lex invited a no name sports reporter to his party. Batman knows. No I have to rewatch this shit movie to give you an exact time Bats makes it known.

3) Yes we get it. He’s traumatized by his parents’ deaths. We get it. Still a man who has spent months and millions of dollars with a single purpose to kill Superman isn’t going to automatically become his best friend when he hears the word “Martha”. Considering Superman has made it clear that he knows who Batman is, Batman hearing him say “Martha” shouldn’t be a groundbreaking event. It surely shouldn’t have him do a 180 (going from I want you dead to can we team up!). Zach Snyder makes Batman an idiot who is just a man with toys and a cross fit membership. He’s a mental midget in this ethos.

But keep saying I don’t get the character. I get it. I even get you. You want this movie to be good. You want it so bad you’re making excuse after excuse and ignoring so many faults in the movie. I wonder, did your mother die as well and her name was “Batman v Superman”? That would explain why every time you hear that name you get confused and want to believe it’s a good movie.

John Smith

Yes you guys don’t understand the movie.
1) OMG. You should stick with “Finding Dory”. You can’t even understand my comment. He didn’t spend time plotting to kill superman since then. He spent time preparing a contingency plan in case Superman becomes the enemy. See here:

“Bruce Wayne: He has the power to wipe out the entire human race, and if we believe there’s even a one percent chance that he is our enemy we have to take it as an absolute certainty… and we have to destroy him.

Alfred: But he is not our enemy!

Bruce Wayne: Not today. Twenty years in Gotham, Alfred; we’ve seen what promises are worth. How many good guys are left? How many stayed that way?”

He is fully aware that Superman is not his enemy at the moment, and that’s your 18 months later.

2) No, Batman didn’t know. Batman had no idea that Superman is Clark Kent. He always thought of Superman as an alien with power of God, sent to Earth with a mission. The movie made it crystal clear that he didn’t know and didn’t care until Lois Lane came in and told him. You should definitely stick with Finding Dory if you can’t even get this.
Don’t watch this movie any way. You don’t understand it, and with this mindset and your understanding ability you won’t.

3) OMG. Again, watch 2:13:32 please. Martha only confused Batman, made him confused and didn’t know what to do FOR A MOMENT. Lois then came in and told him that Lex was behind all of this, that’s why he had to go after Lex and team up with Superman. YES, LOIS LANE CAME IN, TOLD BATMAN THAT LEX LUTHOR WAS BEHIND ALL OF THESE, THAT’S WHAT MAKE BATMAN TO TEAM-UP WITH SUPERMAN.
In that brief moments, Batman was connecting dots. Since you are clearly unable to connect dots yourself, I will help you:
The dots Batman realizes in that moment:
– Superman has a loving mother on Earth.
-> which means he is not a warmongering alien with power of God, sent to Earth with a mission.
– Superman is asking him to save his mom
-> with the flashback, Batman sees Superman in the place of Bruce Wayne the night his parents got shot. A boy is going to have to go through all the pain he has been experiencing.
– MOST IMPORTANTLY: LEX LUTHOR WAS BEHIND ALL OF THIS.
-> meaning:
+ all the letters sent to him are from Luthor.
+ the Wayne’s employee who blow up the senate: he got a new wheelchair. That’s wheelchair must be from Luthor. Luthor planted the bomb.
+ Luthor kidnapped Superman’s mom, and forced him to fight Batman.
==== So,it means Luthor is the villain, he has been plotting and orchestrating everything to get him fight Superman for the whole time! He has to team up with Superman to stop Luthor.

Josh Homer

For the last time, I understand the movie. I get it. I just understand its trash. You want it to be good so bad you’re connecting dots that aren’t there. Your condensing and dismissive tone have made this discussion not only a bore, but no longer entertaining.

Enjoy the movie. Buy the it ultimate edition. Go to every article and Reddit post that says the movie sucks, and you fight that good fight. I wish you the best in this quest.

John Smith

From what you have been saying, it’s crystal clear that you don’t understand the movie. (I don’t know which is worse, you don’t understand the movie, or that you think you understand it while in fact you don’t). You want it to be bad so bad or you don’t even connect dots that are there (or you are just too lazy to use your brain, which is pretty much right).
Your condensing and dismissive tone have made this discussion not only a bore, but no longer entertaining.

Keep hating the movie. Don’t watch the ultimate edition, you won’t understand it anyway, stick with Finding Dory. Go to every article that says the movie is actually good, and you fight that good fight (ohh, like THIS article, right? Hypocritical much, ehhr?). I wish you the best in this quest.

Josh Homer

Because I don’t like the movie or the extrapolation of things in the movie, that I don’t believe Batman is a mental midget and would be paralyzed
in the middle of a fight (which allows Lois to come explain something to him that causes him to go from enemies to best friends).

Yes. It’s all me. Me and the 27% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Clearly me and 73% of movie critics don’t get it.

Perhaps you can send them emails explaining the movie and change their minds.

Also I saw the Ultimate Edition. It clears up some points, but then raises others.

Best of luck to you.

John Smith

There, you don’t understand Batman. Batman is not a regular guy who lost his mother, the guy is traumatized, is haunted by it, he has nightmare every night and feels the pain, the loss every day. In other word, Batman is MENTALLY UNSTABLE, because of traumatization he got from the death of his parents, it’s a fact, so of course telling him to save his mother would confuse him.

Since you brought up RT, RT rated Sharknado 85%. Have fun watching Sharknado.

Go to every article that says the movie is actually good, and you fight that good fight (ohh, like THIS article, right? Hypocritical much, ehhr?). Best of luck to you.

Josh Homer

Sharknado is at 82%, but read why. The reviews basically say the movie is so over the top and makes fun of itself that it’s worth watching. It doesn’t say the movie is Citizen Kane, it says its Plan B from Outerspace. It says BvS is bad because of plot holes, inconsistencies, lack of character development etc. I know that’s a hard concept to get, why these movies got their ratings, but try to get it. Thanks.

For the hundredth time; I get it. Batman is traumatized by his parents’ deaths. Yes. Ok. Got it. He’s haunted by it. Still does not explain his actions. At Batman’s core he’s a logical end game theorist. That’s who he is. He’s unbelievably smart. He has a keen sense of focus. For him to go from hating someone to wanting to pick out China together does not make sense. You can say his mother’s death traumatized him all you want. It defines his core character. It doesn’t make him an irrational idiot.

But again you’re looking for reasons to like this movie. So you’re coming up with all sorts of ideas to justify it being good. Me, I came in with a clean slate. I watched both the theatrical version hoping for good (“what the fuck did I just watch”, was what one man screamed at the end of the movie when I saw it). I even thought ‘well maybe Snyder got butchered on the editing floor, so let me check out the ultimate edition to see his vision and if it makes sense.’ I came in with zero bias. I didn’t make excuses for or against this movie. It’s just ended up being bad to me. That’s all. Because I don’t agree with your extended version that takes place mostly in your head, doesn’t mean I don’t get the movie. I get it. Me and thousands of others who thought it was terrible get it. We get its bad.

John Smith

So BvS is going to be Citizen Kane instead right? Who the hell said that? Noone said BvS is going to be Citizen Kane Plot holes, inconsistencies, lack of character development are fixed in the UE. Of course not all of them, because even TDK has a lot of plot holes, inconsistencies, if you nit-pick it, but the point being, the major ones are fixed.

It does explain his action, he is fucking MENTALLY UNSTABLE for god’s sake. What makes him an idiot? Because he was confused FOR A MOMENT when someone told him to save his mother? Because he was confused FOR A MOMENT when someone touched his deepest fear, his deepest trauma? He decided to team up Superman because fucking Lois Lane told him about Lex and his plan, because he realized who the villain was.

But again you’re looking for reasons to hate the movie. So you’re coming up with all sorts of ideas to justify it being bad. Me, I came in with a clean slate. I watched both the theatrical version hoping for good (it was a bit disappointing tho, it’s just an average movie). I thought ‘of course Snyder got butchered on the editing floor, he already made a fucking 3-hour movie, then was forced to cut 1/6 of it, how could it even work?’. I came in with zero bias. I didn’t make excuses for or against this movie. It’ ended up being good to me (the UE one). That’s all. I don’t agree with your damaged version that takes place mostly in your head because as we are talking, you made it clear that you don’t get the movie. There are thousands of others who thought it was good. We get its good.

Пашка Бароян

He didn’t know his identity. He saw a God and didn’t think that there is a man. If he did know his secret identity, he would have killed him quietly.
And he didn’t plotting to kill Superman for 18 months. He didn’t even know how to do it. All he could do – collect footages, videos, reports. In these footages he saw a God, and tried to find a way to defeat him, not to find out who he is. Then Lex finds the mineral, Bruce sees a chance and becomes Batman again. Alfred states, that Batman interrogated only 6 man. So basically, he began his preparations a month or two before BvS.

It doesn’t fix the biggest problem which is a crappy script. Still a turd. A polished one, but a turd nonetheless.

John Smith

The script is one of the better one in the superhero genre.

darewin

Orly? How is it even believable that the world would believe that Superman killed all those people in Africa? I mean they were killed by bullets and fire. Also, how did Lois instantly figure out she needs to get the Kryptonite Spear back? Oh and Superman can hear Lois’ scream from anywhere around the world and instantly come to her rescue but he could not hear his mother’s voice who is in the same city as he is? These are just some of the indications of how bad the BvS script was.

Пашка Бароян

This is not Marvel movie. You have to turn on your brain and pay attention to understand that things.

Carlos E. Jiménez-Cordero

Are those guys really critics?

Reza Malik

Everyone is a critic. You don’t need a special degree or actually anything besides an opinion to be a critic. Hell you don’t even have to do it professionally to be called a critic.

Carlos E. Jiménez-Cordero

Are those guys really critics?

Captain Cook

And they are right…it’s so much better at intrigue, SUPERMAN….in short a complete movie !

pinkdino

“was planed for the Blu-Ray release…”
check your copy folks…

cwegener

What a retarded article. Since when are digital download releases called leaks? Wtf.

Cobra Commander

OMG, this site is such a shill. Literally no one on the Internet is saying anything about the ultimate edition being any better other than this site and the Earth shattering three tweets that they posted. Peel the orange or screen geek, whatever you’re calling yourself today, this site is obviously getting paola.

RedSon

There are actually thousands.

Cobra Commander

Sure there are.

RedSon

Um, go look for yourself dipsh!t. Multi thousands. As well as hundreds of articles. It’s called twitter and Google.

Cobra Commander

lol @ “hundreds of articles.”

Cobra Commander

Oh, and nice self censorship, Susan. lol.

JaySBee

This article has three tweets and a headline that “the internet” ,is apologizing. That’s not much proof. But what REALLY steams me is I’m scrolling through the comments and I see that a lot of the people who truly disagree with the writer (not matter how respectfully) get their comments removed. The people who agree with the general premise that Batman V Superman was a GOOD movie do not get comments removed even when they include profanity, false comparisons (protip: mentioning what you don’t like about a Marvel film doesn’t make this one good) and some pretty vicious personal attacks.

This article and the comments under it sound strangely orchestrated.If the writer of this article had hundreds of tweets as he says (I don’t doubt that. The internet is a big place), why not give us more than three? The headline makes it sound like most people turn around after seeing the long version. Three carefully selected tweets and a “wait until I load more hand selected tweets” isn’t proof. It’s advertizing.

I know this comment will probably be removed unless someone comes up with a real ZINGER under it to “prove” I’m biased, but this article is half baked at best and astroturfing at worst. I want to go on record as saying that.

Raptor Gilbert

I’m sorry but the story is still shit along with lex Luther being shit though to credit the actor he would be a good joker. Batman was good Bruce Wayne was constipated. Superman was such a cry baby. But the ultimate edition didn’t really ad much. It was a mess of a story.

John Smith

Hater is gonna hate.

Raptor Gilbert

I’m not hating it’s a fact story was a mess still is a mess. Don’t be a blind tool because you want this movie to succeed so hard.

Пашка Бароян

Yes you are. Who said that your opinion is a “fact”? It’s just thoughts of another hater.

Raptor Gilbert

I could go into detail but they don’t allow enough text space

Raptor Gilbert

I could go into detail but they don’t allow enough text space

Cobra Commander

Improve your crap reporting and maybe I’ll stop.

*EDIT* you know, this post bugged me a little after I made it because it’s overly harsh. Also, you’re actually not far from the truth…I think your site is pretty good sometimes and I see potential, but links to your articles keep popping up in my Facebook feed from the Bring Back Dredd people and sometimes they’re just major disappointments. To be fair, I need to start commenting on the articles I find to be positive as well, although I could swear that I’ve done that at least once or twice.

I’ll tell you what…I’ll try to be nicer in the future, okay? And obviously you guys must like me too, since you remember me so fondly. 🙂

Joshua Chap

Making a movie from unbearable to watchable should not bring high praise. The movie is still awful and a mess, it’s just not as terrible.

Hamani Omarah

no its not.

Chris Hawk

Ok tell me why it’s awful and a mess even with the ultimate edition

Joshua Chap

The extra scenes add a bit more to clear up the plot but that’s all. The movie is still not enjoyable to watch. It’s way to long and over all just not a interesting movie to watch. For a movie called Batmam I v Superman you get very little of both for more than 2/3rds the movie. It’s also edited to the point at times is impossible to tell what what’s going on work some of the action scenes. The movie tries so hard to be this deep meaning message about Superman but then never really pays off. By the time you get to the time they all fight the movie feels like it could have ended twice. So little of the extra scenes really add no value other then some clarification of the plot. It didn’t need to be another 30 min longer for a movie that was already a good hour to long.

Chris Hawk

Ok thanks for the explanation and I see where you are coming from. I liked the movie but I can see why people don’t like it. the movie should have stick to its guns for a BvS story ,but they decided to shove everything in the movie. I was still very disappointed with the movie. I wanted them to explore their ideologies and differences between them. Superman was too dark and gloomy in this movie. Superman was about the positivity of the world and people. For christ, Superman in the comics would tell Batman to buy a sense of humor. O yeah, There needed to be banters between Batman and Superman which the movie didn’t use any.

William Joseph

The movie is still a complete butchered mess. He filled a few ploy holes within the movies, but contextually it’s a dog turd that’s been shined up a bit.
1. Jimmy Olsen was killed. Said he did it, just because. Theatrical well at least it was hidden.

2. Batman was a straight murderer. Man of Steel got away with it because it was new character development and it could fit, but Batman, no no no.

3. Lexus Luthor, there is no amount of recuts of the movie that can fix that mess. Short from completely replacing him in the movie all together.

4. Used the death of superman way to early. He was not original at all, and blew his load on that about 10 films early. Now every film where superman fights a massive force it will just be , ehh if he dies he will return. His death was a massive iconic pivotal thing in the comics, and animated features. In this, it was really a short underplayed thing.

5. He basically copied all the DC animated movies that have been released last few years!!!

6. The dreams all should have been cut out completely.

Dave Tomlinson

I’m not wasting another 3 hours of my life on that POS. I’ve seen enough Zach Snyder movies to know that he can’t structure a story to save his life.

Hamani Omarah

Then you haven’t see any snyder films. And also your loss

Dave Tomlinson

Well I agree I am losing out on seeing a competent filmmaker give us the first time Batman and Superman meet or the first time the Justice League comes to the big screen. That’s a loss that bugs me.

Sery Illich Ulianov

Oh yeah, because being to long, is now being TO FUCKING LONG, and it also doesnt stop being a trailer for JL, for that matter, this “director cut” give more to complain about the movie, but i guess you could say i should apologize for not criticize it enough when it first came up.

Gabriel Sa Pinto

This is ridiculous, no one should have to apologize in the first place and besides, how does only extra half an hour change someone’s mind about a movie just like that? People have to stop being cry babies just because a movie didn’t include that one part you were expecting or changed something from the original.
I loved the original movie, even though I recognize it wasn’t by any means perfect, I still think they managed to do a great introduction to the Justice League in only one movie.
I haven’t watched the Ultimate Edition yet, but I definitely will.

I just watched it and it doesn’t improve the movie at all. I don’t understand why people are apologising to Snyder.

Hamani Omarah

It does.

THGhost

It clears up a few things, but the same bad movie is still there. It doesn’t improve it.

Hamani Omarah

It makes a good movie, great. There was no bad movie in there.and it does more than clear a few things. It fixes the editing ad pacing and makes superman get more and much needed screen time.

THGhost

Just read the reviews dude, the movie was terrible and it still is. And Superman was barely in it compared to Batman, don’t make me laugh.

Hamani Omarah

I gave read the reviews of the ultimate edition and the critics are praising it. Also superman has equal amount of time as batman .

JaySBee

A month ago, I noted that this article quotes like three Twitter handles (all of them could be the same person. Hey, they could be the author for all we know) and says “the internet” is coming out in defense of this wretched movie. I was immediately met with someone saying that they would update it to show how “the internet” indeed was all for this movie and that would show me.

Then my post (which contained no profanity or overt insults) was removed. So I waited.

It’s a month later. Look at the article. No further proof and people who paid to see the movie (I’m one of them) still treat it as an embarrassment of epic proportions; a melange of bad ideas that can’t be fixed by giving us more of it. You can’t “UnChrist” all the images of Superman. You can’t “Un Riddler” the portrayal of bats–t crazy for no reason Lex. You can’t “Un Martha” that horrible ending.

Just back to say “I told ya so” before this blogger removes my post because I disagree with him. Again. And that Suicide Squad was pretty fun, in my opinion. Hope it does well.