I totally agree but since we can't escape these things (they can travel at 16,000 mph), can (manifest/disappear at will) the safe money would be
putting your trust in Jesus for your protection. There is nothing that can stop him, he beat death in the flesh. He can over-come anything. With him
by your side, anything is possible.

I don't believe we went to the moon. Life cannot survive the intense radiation of the van Allen belt. You can call it "eye candy" if you want, i'd
prefer to call it God's creation.

Are you're not familiar with bacteria that lives in space, like comets and meteors? NASA also has done studies in space, for example bringing
salmonella on board two missions to the ISS and once in space while on board it thrived.

Life exists everywhere, from the deepest, darkest depths of our oceans, to the hottest of temperatures, areas high in deadly radiation, even in space,
and possibly beyond.

[Middle English, from Old French malivolence, from Latin malevolentia, from malevolns, malevolent-, malevolent : male, badly; see mel-3 in
Indo-European roots + volns, present participle of velle, to want; see wel-1 in Indo-European roots.]

So these entities want us badly .. ie its about POSSESSION of your soul!

The instant you are no longer are in CHARGE of your soul [regardless of possession of it because ultimately YOU are GOD!] is the moment one falls into
the clutches of the DEMONS!

The DEMONS are purely illusory as there IS ONLY GOD!

Omnipresence of God proves my point!

Personal Disclosure: You can be a bad god and project your failings outside yourself and let them beat you up or you can be a good god and accept FULL
100% responsibility for your creation and as a consequence control it intimately! The choice is yours. Placing GOD outside your head is a demonic
influence and denies your divinity!

Its called ALIENATING oneself from the truth! The devil is in the details!

This was the let there be light moment .."I think, therefor IAM!"

Are we seeing clearly yet! Christ is within you and as such only you can save yourself!

[Middle English, from Old French malivolence, from Latin malevolentia, from malevolns, malevolent-, malevolent : male, badly; see mel-3 in
Indo-European roots + volns, present participle of velle, to want; see wel-1 in Indo-European roots.]

So these entities want us badly .. ie its about POSSESSION of your soul!

The instant you are no longer are in CHARGE of your soul [regardless of possession of it because ultimately YOU are GOD!] is the moment one falls into
the clutches of the DEMONS!

The DEMONS are purely illusory as there IS ONLY GOD!

Omnipresence of God proves my point!

Personal Disclosure: You can be a bad god and project your failings outside yourself and let them beat you up or you can be a good god and accept FULL
100% responsibility for your creation and as a consequence control it intimately! The choice is yours. Placing GOD outside your head is a demonic
influence and denies your divinity!

Its called ALIENATING oneself from the truth! The devil is in the details!

This was the let there be light moment .."I think, therefor IAM!"

Are we seeing clearly yet! Christ is within you and as such only you can save yourself!

The ISS is below the Van Allen belts. So the most we can say with any certainty is that these microbes can survive, for the time they've been under
observation, in low earth orbit.

That was just one example. There's plenty more, just get your google on. I'm just here to open your eyes. Also, what say on bacteria found on comets
and meteors? Not only did they travel the depths of space but through the Van Allen belt.

Their is nothing in the universe that is "alien" (to put a finer point on it) , however the debate seems to be one of localization or "nth
spatial" regional occupation ), versus the metaphysical realms (IMO) ..

Scientifically, if an object/energy is taken out--of--phase from this universes frequency spectrum, it ceases to be affected by the natural rules and
laws of that universe..

1,000,000 mph 180 vector degree shifts (relative to the observers relative static position that is) hence, becomes highly probable, and in a quantum
string world, distance is of "no consequences" as an object can appear at any linear distance desired, even at improbable angles and speeds that by
"physical mechanics" would cause the self destruction of the material itself..

Demons (from my understanding and research), are "beyond" even normal metaphysics , they represent an ancient order of operations , that have been
heavily skewed with the current physical world we live through, to (for lack of a qualified term) "interbreed" with the physical representations
(falsely I might add)..

I agree that 95% of the technological (physical) examples we see everyday, are simply governmental projects, but the other 5% fall within a category
that breeches normal physical laws, that we are currently taught in the academics systems of the world, this 5%, falls under the heading of
"metaphysics", and is a subject matter without end (as this thread is now over 14 pages long to prove the point) and demons are but "one" of the
5% (more like the top 1% of the 5% remaining)..

Aliens do not exist in IMO, they are (as mentioned) held within the realm of this universe which in turn, makes them "NOT" alien, but rather an
oddity to be explored.. technology is easy, (as easy as breathing) and infinities of avenues of exploration are held within an unlimited series of
universes, so to be able to change direction, never break the sound barrier, nor allow mechanical physics to upset the chosen direction, simply
requires an alteration of physics, mechanics, mathematics, and quantum attractions, and the will of the observer to forge it's existence into this 3
dimensional realm we live through..

So in final reflection...

Aliens do not exist, demons are only the top 1% of the remaining 5% that are not accountable for within the physical realm (as they remain in the
metaphysical realm), and technology... HAS NO BOUNDARIES...

You know.. if Aliens have no officially stated their existence, and those people who have claimed to have spoken to aliens have said things about the
laws or rules where they cannot mess with humans. Which in the bible the demos..etc.. are not allowed to openly harm us or disrupt our lives.

I'm sure that if we could travel back in time 3000 years and bring our current technology with us, we'd be considered "demons" by the people of that
time period. You call them "demons" because you don't understand their technology.

If these extra-terrestrials were to make themselves known, you would be like those who burned the "witches", wouldn't you? You'd call them something
that they are not and cause undue harm. Then 200 years from then people would look back and say, "Hey, remember when those idiots thought that the
E.T.s were demons?

Originally posted by Hydroman
I'm sure that if we could travel back in time 3000 years and bring our current technology with us, we'd be considered "demons" by the people of
that time period. You call them "demons" because you don't understand their technology.

Star for you (: Our ancestors misinterpreted
the reptilians as gods and demons!

Perhaps they were sent to Earth by the Easter Bunny or could it be the Tooth Fairy?

I cannot believe that we as a race of intelligent beings still believe in this hogwash!
I mean really, relligion really is just as ridiculous as the Easter Bunny.

I actually use to believe in both the Easter Bunny and Heaven... but then I grew up.
Sorry to sound so negative but the idea of relligon really bothers me. I am an agnostic and believe something is out there...I just don't believe it
to be an old man with a white beard or men who have feathered wings on their backs.

Very interesting readings there. What will happen when man decides to travel the stars, will the demons follow?

Also, there is a small chance that these aliens may actually be terrestrial. Let me explain. They could be in of deep parts of the Earth now but lived
on the surface here long in the past before the extinction event of the dinosaurs. This would explain why they had to live in the subterranean. I have
heard reports of discs diving into solid ground and the ground just warps around it.

OR, they could be aliens from our solar system or beyond.

Its more likely that most of the legitimate UFOs reported are military and or private craft made by man.

Everyone who posted in this thread has been trolled. I am sick and tired of these stupid religious troll threads clogging up the UFO/Aliens forum. It
makes it all the more difficult for legitimate threads to be taken seriously. Threads like this one are turning me away from this otherwise excellent
forum. Please take your religion and politics elsewhere.

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