Can Nokia turn it around?
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Seriously. I don't mean that in a dismissive rude way, I'm literally asking, who cares? Is there such a thing as a Nokia fan base? If they stop making phones altogether will a whole group of people simply no longer own phones?

Don't see the issue really.

My mum would go mad. Does any anyone else do phones for techno tards?

Well, a bit lat to answer this, but what the hell.

That type of phone is pretty much the core business for Doro. They are supposedly pretty good at catering to their niche's needs.

I usually just take whatever phone Vodafone offers me for free when it's time to upgrade. Pretty much always go with Nokia because I've had them for years and not bothered with the iPhone because I'm not a cunt. Mind you, if they offer me one for free, I'd take it.

Agree that Nokia is much stronger than all the media hysteria would indicate. However, they still continue to have problems in the US - where Apple, RIM and now Android have greater share of the high end device market - and they have never really managed to establish a foothold in China, despite years of trying.

They do seem to have lost direction with the attempts to embrace more services. It's arguable that by trying to stay proprietary - with Ovi store, Ovi maps, Nokia Comes With Music - they have sunk billions into services which arguably consumers have no loyalty to.

I've worked with many people from Nokia over the years, and pretty much every single one of them says Nokia has never launched a service that was profitable. It's always the handsets that make the money.

Brand perception is key. They do need to work to maintain the belief that Nokia is high quality - Sony Ericsson has really suffered and lost market share through a few poor handsets that it's failed to shake off.

Thing is that even though the games-on-MMC-card design for the original Ngage was stupid (and I only ever used it as a phone with the hands-free kit), it still showed off Symbian very well and I was running apps and emulators on it while everyone else around me was telling me to 'upgrade' so I could play the latest Java games (which mine could run most of the time anyway) or get Bluetooth (which it already had, cheers!).

If anything Nokia need a kick up the arse with the interface and offering freebie stuff - I know the apps are available but they don't have them offered on the (frankly a bit rubbish) Ovi store.

Completely agree. Nokia's been way too stubborn in ignoring the fact that Symbian isn't user-friendly for noobs - that's hurting them now, with IPhone OS and Andoid showing the way (as well as HTC's Coverflow, Samsung's Bada and Qualcomm's Brew MP as well)

Really can't see that teaming up with Yahoo! is going to change anything there...

The best thing about Nokia smartphones for me was Symbian. This news has killed any love I had for them. They've gone from making super reliable multi-tasking handsets with amazing battery life to opting for a shitty battery-draining flakey arsed OS

TeleFunken wrote:
The best thing about Nokia smartphones for me was Symbian. This news has killed any love I had for them. They've gone from making super reliable multi-tasking handsets with amazing battery life to opting for a shitty battery-draining flakey arsed OS

If there's one thing WP7 isn't, it's battery-draining. Flakey? Fo'Sho.
Symbian, for all it's fanboy love, is one of the major reasons why they lost their way in the smarphone world. I's just......so.......DATED.

ronuds wrote:
Is WP7 really that bad, or is it that people just hate MS so much that they'll say any old thing to slag them off?

I've heard pretty good things about WP7... from people who know stuff.

90% of all WP7S comments are from people who have ever used it.
I own one, and it's got great potential, it's probably the most fun to use. It's lagging in some areas though, and my HD7 is buggy at times.