They're even on defensive runs saved. Martin has been with more defensively but Vogt is far ahead of him offensively. Honestly you can't go wrong with either, I'd just take Vogt because I prefer offense.

I feel sick. Everybody from Sandy to Terry and right on down the line with the players went on about this year being different, and how there was a swagger with the team that hasn't been there since 2006. Instead they allowed their shit-hot start completely disappear.

And now there's not even a point in trading for a hitter. They waited too long. When they were up on the Nats by 7 games and guys started going down with injuries...that was the time to strike. Now the Nats are shit hot and are going to win the division by a mile and Sandy doesn't have the balls to trade assets to try and make a Wild Card run since it's too much of a crapshoot.

And even though I think Collins is a fucking SHIT manager and it's not exactly his fault that the team has no offense to speak of...at a certain point don't you have to lay the blame on somebody? The team has given up.

If the Yankees had gone from 13-3 to 36-37, Girardi would have been out on his ass.

Which is meaningless. Vogt doesn't control what pitchers his team employs. That's outside of his control. That's like holding it against Martin that he plays in a band box while Vogt plays in an offensive black hole.

In terms of evaluating a player based on sole individual performance, it indeed is. You're giving credit to Martin for something Vogt doesn't have the opportunity to do, which is something he can't control. Sure being able to catch Dickey has value specifically to Toronto, but on a grand scale of comparative analyses it's a meaningless trait.

The captain found a life boat to flee the titanic. Not sure how he was as a tactician, but it's never a good sign even your manager resigns with no viable openings elsewhere. Amazing how the Phillies turned into one of the worst franchises seemingly overnight.

The captain found a life boat to flee the titanic. Not sure how he was as a tactician, but it's never a good sign even your manager resigns with no viable openings elsewhere. Amazing how the Phillies turned into one of the worst franchises seemingly overnight.

Not exactly overnight, but it was a quick drop from 102 wins to 81, and now it's spiraled into the shitter with (likely) 3 sub-.500 years in a row. Frustrating because it was avoidable.

Gonna be a bit before the team is competitive again, and Ruben Amaro is...well, Ruben Amaro. Bet he extends Domonic Brown for 8 years after dealing Maikel Franco for David Ross.