well man no one has got got the dev kit until now i just got it you best believe but all these firmware updates are killing though i work on the ps2 scene too so be expecting more of it you can boot backup of a network but they run slow as shit you have to use hello world and have the dev kit im working on installing it straight to ps3 with out no patch or downgrade have boot like a picture and play ps2 games by building pcsx2 for ps3 but the emulator is comeing out for ps2 slim within 3 months supposebley

Your wrong, ps3news have had a dev kit for 2+ years, they havnt really acheived aything with it, pcsx2 on the PS3, is a total waste of time, it runs via Linux, which is already slow, there is no way it will ever run on the PS3, unless the RSX is fully opened and for that to happen, the console needs to be hacked.

Originally Posted by GazNicki

What baffles me beyond all comprehension is that people are actively looking for the PS3 to be hacked so that they can play PS2 backups. The cost of a PS2 is less than the cost of a PS3 game if you shop around, and Swap Disk for the PS2 is also nice and cheap. Then it is a case of mere pennies per backup.

The PS3's with backwards compatiablity, can already run PS2 back ups, with the help of Swap Magic, USBLoader and an External HDD.

I wonder why waninkoko would be working on it, just about every post here says it's a waste of time. With waninkoko working on it, I'll wait for a USB Loader, every single game can't be 25GB or 50GB, there's gotta be unused area's on them discs, just like on the other console's game discs.

I wonder why waninkoko would be working on it, just about every post here says it's a waste of time. With waninkoko working on it, I'll wait for a USB Loader, every single game can't be 25GB or 50GB, there's gotta be unused area's on them discs, just like on the other console's game discs.

Actually most Blu-ray games are around 25-40GB, due entirely to the fact that they use uncompressed images for higher quality and greater resolutions. Hacking a PS3 is not going to happen. It would take around a week just to download a single game, are people honestly so stupid and so tight with their money they are willing to wait a week to download something they will have to then spend a few hundred to get a blu ray burner and dual layer blu ray discs ? Running from a Hdd isn't even an ideal option, load times will be slow and with the size of the games, unless you have a TB you're wasting your time.

Actually most Blu-ray games are around 25-40GB, due entirely to the fact that they use uncompressed images for higher quality and greater resolutions.

To be quite honest, not many games surpass the 25GB mark, Burnout Paradise, which without any add ons is just below 4GB, Madden 07 is just under 8GB, Resistance Fall Of Man, is under 18GB,those are only an example, there are quite a few like this.

There are games like MGS4, which take up a full DL Blu Ray(50GB) disc untouched, those high capacity games are few in numbers, saying that, even if all games were that size, they could be backed up and shrunk, as is the case in WII games and PSP games.

Originally Posted by CEK

It would take around a week just to download a single game, are people honestly so stupid and so tight with their money they are willing to wait a week to download something they will have to then spend a few hundred to get a blu ray burner and dual layer blu ray discs

It wouldnt take that long, some people could get 50Gb in less than half a day, it would take me roughly a day and a half on my 5meg connection, Blu Ray burners are getting cheaper as are the discs and if the option to install the ISO to a HDD was an option, you wouldnt even need discs.
Saying that, its better buying the game, to support the developers and backing up that game should be allowed, or rather less frowned upon.

It wouldnt take that long, some people could get 50Gb in less than half a day, it would take me roughly a day and a half on my 5meg connection, Blu Ray burners are getting cheaper as are the discs and if the option to install the ISO to a HDD was an option, you wouldnt even need discs.
Saying that, its better buying the game, to support the developers and backing up that game should be allowed, or rather less frowned upon.

I have to disagree. I have a 10MB connection through Virgin Media and the connection speeds are second to none. I pay monthly for access to Newservers to download rather than Torrents and it's possibly the fastest way to download allowing maximum bandwidth to be used. But even with the newservers, speeds can still be slow due to usage, sometimes dropping to 25% of the maximum availible.
IF you could maintain maximum speeds constantly it is possible to download larger files in a relatively reasonable amount of time, but the majority only use Torrents and that limits the speeds dramatically. So for the majority, it would take far too long.

I know that the files may be buffed out and subject to compression, but even though the Wii games can be compressed, the majority of releases are not compressed and are a 4.7GB file. Often these files can take an age to download, so a file of at least double the size would take at least two ages to download for the majority.

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin

The PS3's with backwards compatiablity, can already run PS2 back ups, with the help of Swap Magic, USBLoader and an External HDD.

I was under the impression that only the US 20GB and UK 40GB versions had the backward compatability and the numbers of these are limited as they soon became outdated with the more reliable 80GB versions and newer.

Lets assume for a moment that the games cannot be compressed. A 250GB HDD would only hold 8-12 PS3 Games. By anyones standards, that is poor.

Should they be compressed, then we are onto a winner. But I still believe that it is a long way away from being a worthwhile advantage for the masses, unless we all get 50MB Brordband from VM lol

I pay monthly for access to Newservers to download rather than Torrents and it's possibly the fastest way to download allowing maximum bandwidth to be used. But even with the newservers, speeds can still be slow due to usage, sometimes dropping to 25% of the maximum availible.
IF you could maintain maximum speeds constantly it is possible to download larger files in a relatively reasonable amount of time, but the majority only use Torrents and that limits the speeds dramatically. So for the majority, it would take far too long.

I suggest you pay for better newsgroup access, the one i use, never drops in speed, its always constant, the biggest fille i have downloaded is about 8GB and that took about 4 hours, i also know loads of guys who would get the likes of 8GB in around an hour and a half.

Anyhow, it would be better if people supported the devs, by buying the games and backing them up on their own console, that would do away with the need of downloading.

Originally Posted by GazNicki

I was under the impression that only the US 20GB and UK 40GB versions had the backward compatability and the numbers of these are limited as they soon became outdated with the more reliable 80GB versions and newer.

You need to brush up on your PS3 information, its a little rusty

60GB US/Japanese/European have backwards compatiability, though the European one uses software emulation, as the EE was removed.

20GB US has full EE backward compatiability.

80GB including the MGS4 pack and before have software Emulation.

40GB, 80GB release after the MGS4 pack cannot play PS2 games, nor can any other models.

Actually most Blu-ray games are around 25-40GB, due entirely to the fact that they use uncompressed images for higher quality and greater resolutions. Hacking a PS3 is not going to happen. It would take around a week just to download a single game, are people honestly so stupid and so tight with their money they are willing to wait a week to download something they will have to then spend a few hundred to get a blu ray burner and dual layer blu ray discs ? Running from a Hdd isn't even an ideal option, load times will be slow and with the size of the games, unless you have a TB you're wasting your time.

I wasn't talking about downloading ISOs or burning blu ray discs, that would be a waste of time and money. My post was about usb loader. I would say, out of the 200 games on my HDD, 90% were ripped from retail discs. The current usb loader on wii doesn't require a downloaded ISO or a burned disc. So, just maybe, if waninkoko can do the same with ps3 as he did with the Wii, then I'll be happy. I have a 500GB and 1TB, thank you, and planing to upgrade to a higher capacity.

My newserver is GigaNewa at the moment, on their top level package. A move may be on the cards then if this is a fault with the newserver provider.

I started with them and the service was great, the downloads were consistenet and never had any down time or anything,i moved to Astraweb and the only reason i moved was because i got the exact same service, for less than half the price, ive been with Astraweb for about 6 - 7 months, have had one instance of downtime that lasted a couple of hours.

Originally Posted by Stomp_442

So, just maybe, if waninkoko can do the same with ps3 as he did with the Wii, then I'll be happy. I have a 500GB and 1TB, thank you, and planing to upgrade to a higher capacity.

The thing is, even if waninkoko wanted to create an USBLoader for the PS3, it would have to be hacked first, this will happen at some stage, though by that time most of the circumventers will have got bored with it.

The PS3's with backwards compatiablity, can already run PS2 back ups, with the help of Swap Magic, USBLoader and an External HDD.

True but this is only with the first PS3's the 20gs and 80gs i think.. u are lucky if you have one of this models.... everybody else only has the newer models 40gs and 60gs i might be mesing up in the 80g and the 60g not sure... i dont remember wish one comes with the compability to play ps2 games