I like Christie, and I agree that if I were going to vote for a republican he seems like one of the best options (still like Jon Huntsman too).

Of course, it won't really matter in the end. The next election is Hillary's in a landslide as long as she doesn't do something monumentally boneheaded. Hopefully putting Hillary in office would put Bill into an even more active position.

TuteTibiImperes:I like Christie, and I agree that if I were going to vote for a republican he seems like one of the best options (still like Jon Huntsman too).

Of course, it won't really matter in the end. The next election is Hillary's in a landslide as long as she doesn't do something monumentally boneheaded. Hopefully putting Hillary in office would put Bill into an even more active position.

neither stands a chance with hardcore Republicans that vote in primaries

TuteTibiImperes:I like Christie, and I agree that if I were going to vote for a republican he seems like one of the best options (still like Jon Huntsman too).

Of course, it won't really matter in the end. The next election is Hillary's in a landslide as long as she doesn't do something monumentally boneheaded. Hopefully putting Hillary in office would put Bill into an even more active position.

I have concerns about her doing something stupid. Like the "dodging sniper fire" gate incident.

Honestly I think Rubio eeks out the 2016 GOP nomination. He has the whole Latino thing working against him of course, but the GOP has been gung-ho about trying to salvage some segment of the Latino vote, and they perceive this as the best way. He'll have a tough time getting states in the deep south, but will do great elsewhere. Christie is just not crazy enough to win the primaries.

As for the Democrat entry, despite all the speculation I'm not sure Hillary will even seek it. Blasphemy, I know, but I think 2008 took a lot out of her. She seems to prefer operating in a little smaller spotlight. Joe Biden WILL seek it out, but I don't think he'll win. After a hard-fought campaign, I think Mark Warner will emerge as the candidate, with a woman (Gillibrand? Klobuchar?) as his VP choice.

Cheron:TuteTibiImperes: I like Christie, and I agree that if I were going to vote for a republican he seems like one of the best options (still like Jon Huntsman too).

Of course, it won't really matter in the end. The next election is Hillary's in a landslide as long as she doesn't do something monumentally boneheaded. Hopefully putting Hillary in office would put Bill into an even more active position.

neither stands a chance with hardcore Republicans that vote in primaries

And that is really the biggest problem in the Republican party right now. They've allowed the party to be taken over by whackadoos and tea party extremists, all the while Fox News merrily plays along for ratings, and it becomes one great big echo chamber where even more extreme ideas are needed to get any publicity and the whole mass of it keeps moving further and further from reality.

The same things that any potential GOP candidate needs to do to get the approval of Limbaugh, Beck, and the hardliners in the party are the things that will make them unelectable in the general election.

TuteTibiImperes:I like Christie, and I agree that if I were going to vote for a republican he seems like one of the best options (still like Jon Huntsman too).

Of course, it won't really matter in the end. The next election is Hillary's in a landslide as long as she doesn't do something monumentally boneheaded. Hopefully putting Hillary in office would put Bill into an even more active position.

Supes:Honestly I think Rubio eeks out the 2016 GOP nomination. He has the whole Latino thing working against him of course, but the GOP has been gung-ho about trying to salvage some segment of the Latino vote, and they perceive this as the best way. He'll have a tough time getting states in the deep south, but will do great elsewhere. Christie is just not crazy enough to win the primaries.

As for the Democrat entry, despite all the speculation I'm not sure Hillary will even seek it. Blasphemy, I know, but I think 2008 took a lot out of her. She seems to prefer operating in a little smaller spotlight. Joe Biden WILL seek it out, but I don't think he'll win. After a hard-fought campaign, I think Mark Warner will emerge as the candidate, with a woman (Gillibrand? Klobuchar?) as his VP choice.

Infernalist:Yeah, the GOP has several warehouses full of material that went unused after Obama stole the show in 2008.

Of course they want her to run.

Yeah but they'll all be eight year old insults at that point, little fresh in the mind of voters. She has four more years of experience due to SoS position, plus whatever she does in the mean time. On top of that, we'll have eight years total of Republicans saying Clinton wasn't the Devil but Obama is, which will take away some of their attacks.

Hillary's done due to age and the medical history. It would have been okay for Obama to let her ride out 4 more years of SoS duty as a victory lap (with a strong deputy SoS to mind the store if another medical issue occurred). She'd be 69 by 2016 and 73 by 2020. So even if she won in 2016, there would be considerations about her ability to run for a second term as an incumbent. Obama's only 51 and he looked worn down after one term.

Supes:Honestly I think Rubio eeks out the 2016 GOP nomination. He has the whole Latino thing working against him of course, but the GOP has been gung-ho about trying to salvage some segment of the Latino vote, and they perceive this as the best way. He'll have a tough time getting states in the deep south, but will do great elsewhere. Christie is just not crazy enough to win the primaries.

As for the Democrat entry, despite all the speculation I'm not sure Hillary will even seek it. Blasphemy, I know, but I think 2008 took a lot out of her. She seems to prefer operating in a little smaller spotlight. Joe Biden WILL seek it out, but I don't think he'll win. After a hard-fought campaign, I think Mark Warner will emerge as the candidate, with a woman (Gillibrand? Klobuchar?) as his VP choice.

Warner vs. Rubio in 2016 would be a fun battle.

I had to look up Warner, because I honestly know nothing about the man.

Checked out where he stands on actual policies, thinking he was just another conservative Democrat from VA...

And ended up liking most of what I saw. He's still far too much of an authoritarian for me, but on economics and most social policy, I either don't disagree or only mildly disagree.

Not bad, assuming the guy has the charisma and gravitas for the campaign (again, I know nothing about the man, so he may.)

The norm of SCOTUS justices being federal judges first is a relatively new thing. Historically, about 1/3 of the appointees had no prior judicial experience. Obviously Kagan just recently came from a post as Solicitor General. Not too long ago Rehnquist came from an AG job. Earl Warren was actually Governor first, and had run for President.

I don't think Clinton would ever be nominated for a SCOTUS position, and confirming her would be problematic, but I agree with whoever made the original post that she has a keen enough mind that she could do a decent job at it.

As opposed to say, Harriet Miers, who would just have embarrassed herself.

As much as I would personally love for Hillary to run and have wanted to vote for her since Bill's presidency - she's 65 and she had a blood clot in her freakin' brain only two months ago. That's not the sort of thing you can just shake off. So, yeah, I think she has slightly more important things to worry about at this point in time.

EighthDay:Supes: Honestly I think Rubio eeks out the 2016 GOP nomination. He has the whole Latino thing working against him of course, but the GOP has been gung-ho about trying to salvage some segment of the Latino vote, and they perceive this as the best way. He'll have a tough time getting states in the deep south, but will do great elsewhere. Christie is just not crazy enough to win the primaries.

As for the Democrat entry, despite all the speculation I'm not sure Hillary will even seek it. Blasphemy, I know, but I think 2008 took a lot out of her. She seems to prefer operating in a little smaller spotlight. Joe Biden WILL seek it out, but I don't think he'll win. After a hard-fought campaign, I think Mark Warner will emerge as the candidate, with a woman (Gillibrand? Klobuchar?) as his VP choice.

Warner vs. Rubio in 2016 would be a fun battle.

I had to look up Warner, because I honestly know nothing about the man.

Checked out where he stands on actual policies, thinking he was just another conservative Democrat from VA...

And ended up liking most of what I saw. He's still far too much of an authoritarian for me, but on economics and most social policy, I either don't disagree or only mildly disagree.

Not bad, assuming the guy has the charisma and gravitas for the campaign (again, I know nothing about the man, so he may.)

I agree, he doesn't look bad. I've been a big fan of this guy for a couple years though:

There hasn't been one gaffe, one gotchya, one embarrassing video, open mike moment, "47% comment", no documentation of being gay, or visiting prostitutes, or a slew of other things that could reverse everything.

Not to mention if another 9/11 happened, or an upturn/downturn of the economy...