It would either need a higher activation cost, no tapping for mana, or both. And even then, it'ld be very powerful.

For how much life gets thrown away some may not want to throw away more life to do so, plus it could lead to some running Stifle effects for people being even greedier with their mana bases, but that was only an idea.

Originally Posted by Sorrior

Ok so i have a few questions.

1 is the Gruul Goliath premade really weak or am i just sucking(i've also made changes with an old players help that have strengthened it some).

And 2. If i sign up for MTGO will i be able to transfer any of my real world cards to it?

1. If you are talking about the Gruul intro deck then I wouldn't be too worried how well it does, but I can't say for certain if you are playing with it wrong or if the deck has a fundamental flaw in it.

2. Unfortunately you are unable to transfer real to online cards, but on MTGO if you have every card in a set you can transfer online cards to real ones.

Duels of the Planeswalkers 2014 was announced and there is a possible cards that might show up in M14.

For how much life gets thrown away some may not want to throw away more life to do so, plus it could lead to some running Stifle effects for people being even greedier with their mana bases, but that was only an idea.

1. If you are talking about the Gruul intro deck then I wouldn't be too worried how well it does, but I can't say for certain if you are playing with it wrong or if the deck has a fundamental flaw in it.

2. Unfortunately you are unable to transfer real to online cards, but on MTGO if you have every card in a set you can transfer online cards to real ones.

Ok thanks for the help...And you'd think they would've taken a note from yu gi oh and let us transfer cards over....Still nice to know about the set thing.

Don, that card is really weak for a mythic. 5/6 flying for 5 isn't amazing, and killing a single creature is nice, but with a drawback like that, it doesn't add up.

This wouldn't be the first time we learn of cards from DotP early and I will agree that as a mythic it is pretty weak. As a rare it would have been fine, but the other card found from DotP helps a little bit with the demon. It has pretty neat flavor in that their are always groups of humans always trying to summon demons by killing themselves.

Creature-Human Cleric
A deck can have any number of cards named Shadowborn Apostle., sacrifice six creatures named Shadowborn Apostle: Search your library for a demon creature and put it onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library.
1/1

Here is another one that was found.

Staff of the Wild Magus
Artifact
Whenever you cast a green spell or a Forest enters the battlefield under your control you may gain 1 life.

At the very least it isn't those other core set cards, but it still sucks incredibly hard core. Just another case of Wizards making a core set card that people will learn not to play with.

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Originally Posted by Sorrior

Ok thanks for the help...And you'd think they would've taken a note from yu gi oh and let us transfer cards over....Still nice to know about the set thing.

To do something like that would be a ton of work and Wizards wouldn't really know what to do with the cards they are sent as they couldn't resell them. Plus things like condition would be a factor and Wizards would have to possibly ship back whole sets back to the person if a few cards got damaged or were previously damaged or if the person thought they shipped every card, but forgot one or even more cards, which would cause even more hassles. If Gamekeeper or Wizards stores were still open then there would be a place for it, but unfortunately that would be too much now.

I'm guessing that artifact will be a playset of five, one for each color. I don't know about that. As much as people seem to rag on the current ones (2 mana, whenever you play an x spell, gain 1 life), nobody's gonna like these. I like the current ones myself, but they seem to get rated really low.

I'm guessing that artifact will be a playset of five, one for each color. I don't know about that. As much as people seem to rag on the current ones (2 mana, whenever you play an x spell, gain 1 life), nobody's gonna like these. I like the current ones myself, but they seem to get rated really low.

My problem with them is that there are 5 cards when you could easily make the same effect on one card by choosing a color. These new ones are even worse than the lucky charms.

This wouldn't be the first time we learn of cards from DotP early and I will agree that as a mythic it is pretty weak. As a rare it would have been fine, but the other card found from DotP helps a little bit with the demon. It has pretty neat flavor in that their are always groups of humans always trying to summon demons by killing themselves.

Creature-Human Cleric
A deck can have any number of cards named Shadowborn Apostle., sacrifice six creatures named Shadowborn Apostle: Search your library for a demon creature and put it onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library.
1/1

Here is another one that was found.

Staff of the Wild Magus
Artifact
Whenever you cast a green spell or a Forest enters the battlefield under your control you may gain 1 life.

At the very least it isn't those other core set cards, but it still sucks incredibly hard core. Just another case of Wizards making a core set card that people will learn not to play with.

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To do something like that would be a ton of work and Wizards wouldn't really know what to do with the cards they are sent as they couldn't resell them. Plus things like condition would be a factor and Wizards would have to possibly ship back whole sets back to the person if a few cards got damaged or were previously damaged or if the person thought they shipped every card, but forgot one or even more cards, which would cause even more hassles. If Gamekeeper or Wizards stores were still open then there would be a place for it, but unfortunately that would be too much now.

LOL i meant a way to transfer our real cards to a digital format...NOT the other way. Such as how Yu Gi Oh has a numerical code on each card. I'd need to take a look but pretty sure magic cards could have something like that even previously made ones.

Prismatic Charm 2
Artifact
When <name> comes into play choose a color. When a player plays a spell of the chosen color you gain one life.

Still just as bad except if RDW needs to run this lucky charm they can use it against other decks if need be.

Originally Posted by Sorrior

LOL i meant a way to transfer our real cards to a digital format...NOT the other way. Such as how Yu Gi Oh has a numerical code on each card. I'd need to take a look but pretty sure magic cards could have something like that even previously made ones.

That's what i meant.

I did not know Yugioh was doing that. I fell out of Yugioh when I needed a motorcycle to play the game. The code makes much more sense.

I'm more interested in the "Whenever a player casts a non-creature spell, it deals 6 damage to that player". Obviously he's far too expensive to put in any conventional burn deck or anything, but with a solid mana ramp, it could put some serious pressure on your opponent (pending on opponent deck, of course).

Enchantment is the next YMTC and I am slightly disappointed. If it is an aura it pretty much has to come with a return to hand or battlefield clause to do much, unless the hexproof creatures are just as abundant as they are now. Choosing the color first is also not a very good thing as the color will prohibit what can go on the card, unless we will be able to choose multicolor.

Originally Posted by Radux

I'm more interested in the "Whenever a player casts a non-creature spell, it deals 6 damage to that player". Obviously he's far too expensive to put in any conventional burn deck or anything, but with a solid mana ramp, it could put some serious pressure on your opponent (pending on opponent deck, of course).

He is definitely a six drop worth dropping. Their isn't many ways for him to not deal 6 damage before he is removed.

Originally Posted by Orochiro

Wow that looks amazing, I especially like the "Whenever a player casts a non-creature spell, it deals 6 damage to that player".

Bloodrush is his best friend and if you can give him lifelink then you can cast spells as normal.

I'm more interested in the "Whenever a player casts a non-creature spell, it deals 6 damage to that player". Obviously he's far too expensive to put in any conventional burn deck or anything, but with a solid mana ramp, it could put some serious pressure on your opponent (pending on opponent deck, of course).

He's made to be played in EDH. Either as a general or in the deck, this guy is probably going to see a lot of play in EDH. I'm putting him in my Mayael deck, because I think I run all of maybe 6 non-creature cards in it lol.

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