If Democrats arent worried about President Obamas Problems? What problems? response to the multiple glitches and snafus of his ObamaCare rollout, they should be. The public is deeply suspicious of the law and it wouldnt take much to create an electoral backlash that could send dozens of incumbent Democrats home for good in November 2014.

We are being inundated daily with news stories highlighting the problems with, and those caused by, the legislation. Obama has indirectly acknowledged these problems by postponing several elements of the legislation.

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Higher costs means fewer votes. Obama once claimed ObamaCare would drive down health insurance premiums; officials now claim that with the subsidies most people will be paying less. Dont be too sure.

For example, National Journal just released its assessment of how ObamaCare will affect the individual market. Two-thirds of workers with single coverage and 57 percent of workers with family coverage will see their costs go up in the exchange. In addition, recent stories claim that some of the premiums are lower than expected because the copays and deductibles are so high.

Those forced to pay higher out-of-pocket costs, as well as higher premiums, will perceive that ObamaCare is hurting them financially and voters may well decide to return that pain on those who forced them to pay more.

If Democrats arent worried about President Obamas Problems? What problems? response to the multiple glitches and snafus of his ObamaCare rollout, they should be. The public is deeply suspicious of the law and it wouldnt take much to create an electoral backlash that could send dozens of incumbent Democrats home for good in November 2014.

What good would it do if it did? Republicans never repeal anything Dems have done, and certainly couldn't muster a veto-overriding majority to do so if this were the one time they found a spine. I guess it would be slightly better, in that probably no NEW communism, or at least less, would be enacted between 14 and 16. But if the ratchet only ever clicks one direction, it doesn't matter very much who wins a given round.

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posted on 09/30/2013 10:18:36 AM PDT
by Still Thinking
(Freedom is NOT a loophole!)

That’s exactly what they are doing. Look at any comments page underneath an article critical of Obamacare. If you believe them, everything is sweetiness and light. There are no problems—its only us “uninformed people”. They look like they are being cut and pasted off a set of talking points.

They look like they are being cut and pasted off a set of talking points.

Obama's people are infiltrating all the conservative websites and forums with their talking points, i.e. propaganda. It won't get them very far. People will see with their own eyes what a bag of crap it is.

This is proof the democrats don’t care. They lost the house over obamacare so they don’t care if they lose every seat.

What the republicans need to do is hold their ground on defunding it and say over and over again that they’re ready to sit down with the democrats and work on the healthcare system. If the democrats say “no” the backlash will be bad for them.

This is the ONLY good thing that would come if the House caves: the Dems will own the issue (and the associated pain) thanks to their own demands... and frankly a one-year delay wouldn’t help us in 2014.

So hold on to that when Pelosi, Reid, and Obama do another victory lap after this episode is over.

I haven’t DEMANDED anything in years — the last time was for my cable company to carry Fox Business News and I laughed when I did that — but I think Women ought to band together and DEMAND affordable manicures as part of good health in our family food prep chores.

If the Democrats had half a brain they would take the one year delay offer with a huge sigh of relief. Now in the 2014 elections, if all of the ACA gets active, the Democrats will get slaughtered at the polls.

Aside from the layers of bureaucracy, and the potential for long-term abuses, I do see some silver linings in Obamacare.

For many people who only show up at emergency rooms, or handle healthcare with a Medicaid card, the law is forcing people to become consumers of healthcare. Subsidized premiums are one thing, but there will be deductibles and co-pays for treatments and prescriptions. In the past, I'm pretty sure many of these folks didn't have to worry about those things previously, and now they will. And they won't be happy because they'll have thought it was all supposed to be "free."

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posted on 09/30/2013 10:47:18 AM PDT
by Lou L
(Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")

<....”the law is forcing people to become consumers of healthcare”....>

I differ on that take...I see this as nothing more than ‘a hoax to draw revenue’ from all people to the hands of politicians and they’re squabbles and deals on who gets it for anything other than healthcare.....

This is nothing about the peoples health...it’s about the revenue generating to the Government...period. And they will distribute it where ever they choose...and it won’t be on caring for the health of Americans.

BTW I’m sure who gets healthcare will be determined by who you vote for as well....they will make certain those who oppose them are at the back of the line.

The biggest problem with Obamacare is that they didn't try to duplicate one of the few universal health care systems that actually work--specifically Germany, who pioneered universal health care in 1884 and has refined it several times since into a public-private partnership and made it arguably the best health care system on Earth, including the fact Germany is still a world leader in medical technology.

The biggest problem with Obamacare is that they didn’t try to duplicate one of the few universal health care systems that actually work—specifically Germany, who pioneered universal health care in 1884 and has refined it several times since into a public-private partnership and made it arguably the best health care system on Earth, including the fact Germany is still a world leader in medical technology.

I agree with that, FUNNY HOW THE LIBS NEVER TRY TO DUPLICATE SOCIALIZED SYSTEMS THAT SOMEWHAT WORK...

If Liberals were intellectually honest we would have the healthcare system of germany, the education system of Japan, the prison system of Japan, the firearms policy of switzerland etc etc.....

But it is not about providing the best for their “serfs” it is ALL ABOUT CONTROL!

Pure Cloward Piven posturing in order to break the sucessfull free market systems in order to create a crisis that allows them carte blanche authority to seize total control over as many systems as they can!

Do I want the German Healthcare system? No, I prefer the free market. Do I want the Japanaese School and Prison systems? No! there are somethings we should take “some” ideas from them, but all the above countries have less freedom than we USED to have.

Instead of taking ideas and aspects from systems that do work, instead they intentionally take away lessons that are consistently the wrong ones because either thay are stuipid or they know exactly WHAT they are doing!

.....I think Ben Sassee, Senate Candidate in Nebraska proves by his amazing fund raising that MANY, if not ALL, dimocrats up for election in 2014 are, one by one, falling on their swords by continuing, in September 2013, to support obamacare!

.....I think Ben Sassee, Senate Candidate in Nebraska proves by his amazing fund raising that MANY, if not ALL, dimocrats up for election in 2014 are, one by one, falling on their swords by continuing, in September 2013, to support obamacare!

I'm hoping day one is disaster, so everyone gets a taste of how screwed up anything govt. runs can be. Pubbies can't think of scaling down any agreement with Dems until the initial feedback starts rolling in.

Imagine if complaints are wide and loud. On the other hand, if it goes smoothly.....nnnaaahhh, that can't happen, it's gubmint.

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posted on 09/30/2013 12:27:34 PM PDT
by chiller
(NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)

That may be true for a short while, but it's moving very fast towards single payer. Choices will be 1) govt. A or 2) govt. B.

One benefit I see is the decoupling of health care from jobs. All problems would be solved if your consumer premise was how the whole system worked. Shop, compare, and choose how to spend your money. The intervening insurance factor creates the impression that someone else is paying.

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posted on 09/30/2013 12:34:59 PM PDT
by chiller
(NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)

‘if all of the ACA gets active, the Democrats will get slaughtered at the polls.’

Don’t be so sure -
1. the lamestream will convince the stupid voters that ovomit and his dems didn’t cause them the pain, it is the other party’s fault;
2. Their unchallenged voter fraud will give them just enough edge to beat us.
3. The ‘patriots’ who refuse to vote for the less than perfect candidate will help to elect ovommit and his gang’s choice etc etc.

Interestingly, relatively few people on the Left here in the USA want something akin to the British National Health Service. Not hard to figure out why: NHS--being effectively a government monopoly--lives on the whim on government funding, and you know how government budgets change every year!

“Now in the 2014 elections, if all of the ACA gets active, the Democrats will get slaughtered at the polls.”
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