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What i did initially was use the "here" whistle to my advantage (3 blasts) and then sit him after a step or two when he was squared up. Then i transitioned into a "square up whistle" which is two blasts. So, now if we arent square on the initial sit whistle, i give a 2 blast whistle to square him up ( i still follow it by a sit whistle). To be honest, sometime it sounds like there is alot going on when i have the whistle in my mouth at the retrieving line, and am sure there are many better ways out there, but this is what worked for my dog and his amateur trainer.

What i did initially was use the "here" whistle to my advantage (3 blasts) and then sit him after a step or two wwhen he was squared up. Then i transitioned into a "square up whistle" which is two blasts. So, now if we arent square on the initial sot whistle, i give a 2 blast whistle to square him up ( i still follow it by a sit whistle). To be honest, sometime it sounds like there i alot going on wheb i have the whistle in my mouth at the retrievin line, an am sure there are many vetter ways out there, but this is what worked for y dog and his amateur trainer.

Dat be on enice doggies Look at the skies for the birdz like Cookie Monsters Then give a short tween then "over"

No retrieve unless you get a square sit. My dog doesn't get a cast if the sit is not square--she will now adjust to a square sit on her own in order to get the cast. It surprised me but is an outcome of having an operant dog but I made that part of my drill when doing the T. Anyway, that's one way to do it. I am sure there are others.

"I love the rod and gun and where they take me."

"Do not judge a man until you have walked two moons in his moccasins."

No retrieve unless you get a square sit. My dog doesn't get a cast if the sit is not square--she will now adjust to a square sit on her own in order to get the cast. It surprised me but is an outcome of having an operant dog but I made that part of my drill when doing the T. Anyway, that's one way to do it. I am sure there are others.

I suspect you started this training way before T or pile work George. Might be helpful if you describe all the steps leading up to refusing the reward in the field.