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A Paddy, from the 'Auld Sod, living a decent life for which I am grateful.

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Vinegar Hill, Brooklyn, NYC

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My hobby is my work, Hello everybody, I am a workaholic.

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photograph and video

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What is your favorite Jets related memory?

I was sitting in front of Willy Joe at the Meadowlands when he said to Suzy Kolber " I want to Kiss You". I'm sorry, I know the moral majority was outraged but that was the funniest thing ever. We all want to say something and not give a damn, Joe did. Drunk or not , I said that's pretty damn cool.

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On the waiting List, when I broke up with my girlfriend 7 years ago, the tickets were her family's.

What Jets memory broke your heart?

Marino's Fake Spike is second on the list but easily Doug O'Brien missing that field goal to send the Jets into the AFC championship

Who is your favorite member of the NY Jets flight crew?

Amateurs. Want to see what cheerleaders should look like in Green, google the BosCeltic cheerleaders

The quote last year in the media that I remember was that Hackenberg, despite being taken high in the second round, was considered a major project.
The plan was to rebuild his mechanics in the off season, hence he did not play much in last year's preseason... there was no point.
My gut feeling was that if they were going to completely change his mechanics, he would need more than one offseason to realistically challenge for a starting gig.
Many of us were not fans of the pick, Hackenberg worked his butt off in the off season and so far he's improved but uneven in camp.
We will not really know anything this year until he get's some extended playing time in preseason games.
I expect McCown to start the season but not stay healthy, I expect both Hack and Petty will each end up starting some games.
My wild guess is that we will be picking a first round qb next year and that Hackenberg will be in a much better place developmentally to compete for a starting job.
That may be the first real qb competition we have had in years.

I read the link above and wonder why Bob McNair said what he said. Here's the quote "Texans owner Bob McNair said. ”We needed some players who were veterans to provide some leadership, and we were fortunate that we were able to make a deal with the Jets that we could get Aaron down here.”
My memory is that we put our two cornerbacks in the expansion draft, Aaron Glenn and Marcus Coleman. Aaron Glenn was put in the espansion draft because every team had to submit two players and the Jets FO gambled that Aaron Glenn's salary was two high for the Texans to take him in their expansion draft. The ruse backfired and we lost two cornerbacks. False memory ?
Glenn was heading to his hometown so he was likely not upset by being taken in the Texans expansion draft.

Decker probably wouldn't stay healthy but given his reputation as a great route runner, the young wide receivers might have learned something from him. Likewise Harris is such a solid human being and team player, the team could have used his example on and off the field.

Demario Davis is a locker room leader who is durable but clearly with his playing time being reduced dramatically in the second half of the season they lost faith in him.
Pryor is a former first round pick,they have nothing to loose...a change of scenery might help, a low risk investment for the Browns.
Both players will likely be out of the league within a year or two unless as depth players.

A view on the trade from the other side of the fence...from Cleveland.com on trade...
Demario Davis
Pro (for Browns)
After the Browns signed Davis as an unrestricted free agent last March, he was expected to not only be a starting linebacker for the Browns, but a veteran leader on a team shedding veterans left and right.
He was named a team captain and paired with Christian Kirksey at middle linebacker, then started 15 of 16 games last season, finishing second to Kirksey in tackles (59 solo, 99 total). Davis also had two sacks, including the one below against the Steelers.
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Veteran leadership can't be discounted on the league's youngest team, which had 18 rookies start games in 2016.
And on a defense dealing with injuries throughout the season, Davis stayed healthy. He was one of just 10 Browns to start at least 15 games. That might not seem like much to most NFL fans, but in Cleveland, that means something.
Con (for Browns)
Davis was at the center of a defense that gave up the second-most rushing yards in the NFL last season. It was also a defense that was last in coverage against tight ends, according to FootballOutsiders.com.
While Davis started 15 games, his snap count declined during the second half of the season. He was on the field for at least 58 snaps each of the first seven weeks, but topped 50 just once the rest of the way. He played just nine snaps in Week 12. His final four weeks looked like this: 28, 54, 22, 31.
ProFootballFocus.com ranked Davis 59th among linebackers, and 78thvs. the run. He was just 43rd in coverage, and contributed to the Browns' inability to cover tight ends.

I don't have a problem with what any of the players said. You are not going to get an honest opinion from management or the coaches, just tired sound bites.
The players are only stating a personal opinion but in a world where everything is filtered through a PR department, it's refreshing.
What we learned there is some progress and so far experience has the edge in the QB competition. Not earth shattering but the team seems to be on the same page in the OTAs.

Steve Serby's wrote a short readable piece... it gives you an idea through the eyes of teammates where Christian H. is at with his progress
‘A cannon’: What Hackenberg’s Jets mates say about him
By Steve Serby
May 30, 2017 | 9:29pm
When you ask Sheldon Richardson about the difference in Christian Hackenberg from a year ago, he won’t tell you there are five reasons the locker room is better this season … but he won’t rush to spout any sugarcoated party line either.
“Slowly progressing … still got a little ways to go. … He’s getting better every day … that’s pretty much it. Slowly progressing, man,” Richardson said.
“He still needs to get past the learning curve. It’s still too fast for him. But other than that, man, he’s still got a cannon. He’s firing it. When he’s on point, he’s on point, but when he’s not, he’s not, so got some growing still.”
Coach Todd Bowles, following a 5-11 season, doesn’t have the time to wait for Hackenberg to grow up. It is why Josh McCown, if he still is standing at the end of training camp, will be the starter, and the open quarterback competition initially will be Hackenberg versus Bryce Petty for the No. 2 job.
Hackenberg’s throwing motion appears noticeably smoother, but he still has yet to throw a regular-season pass in anger, and it remains true that Rome wasn’t built in a day.
“Quicker release,” cornerback Buster Skrine said. “Way quicker. He used to wind up a little bit, but now it’s just out, out.”
But for all the accurate throws Hackenberg makes on a cloudy day at the end of May — a beautiful deep ball that Charone Peake could have caught for a touchdown, for example — there are enough that remind you that Hackenberg wasn’t built in a day either. Or rebuilt in a day.
“It’s still early,” Richardson said. “Ain’t no telling what he comes back and [does] in training camp, but it’s still early.”
Richardson was asked about the difference in Petty, who worked third behind McCown and Hackenberg on Tuesday, from a year ago at this time.
“Way better,” he said. “Him and Josh are going at it, they’re competing on every play.”
Does Richardson think the quarterback battle is between McCown and Petty?
“That’s just how I feel,” Richardson said. “Me personally.”
Based on Bryce having more experience than Hackenberg?
“Yeah, and actually by showing production on the field,” Richardson said.
Except Petty (three touchdowns, seven interceptions, 56.4 completion percentage) hardly distinguished himself at the end of last season once the Ryan Fitzpatrick Era unceremoniously ended, nor did he distinguish himself at Tuesday’s OTA, for what it’s worth on a cloudy day at the end of May.
His worst moment was a throw right to linebacker Randell Johnson. Petty’s best moment came when he threw a dime down the seam to rookie tight end Jordan Leggett. It drew a “Good shot!” from offensive coordinator John Morton.
“It’s more of a competition mindset of, ‘OK, he made a great throw. I’m gonna make a better throw.’ That kind of thing,” Petty said.
There is more invested in Hackenberg, the controversial 2016 second-round pick, than Petty, the 2015 No. 4 pick. Hackenberg likely will be The Chosen One — actually Chosen Two — if he learns the new offense quicker than Petty.
“He’s reading things a lot faster,” Skrine said.
Teammates can’t help but notice a change in Hackenberg’s body language.
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Hackenberg and Bryce Petty (right) talk with the Jets quarterback coaches.Bill Kostroun
“He learned from a guy that was really smart in Fitz, and so I think he’s taken that confidence over into this aspect,” receiver Quincy Enunwa said. “He has the ability to get it deep, short …”
Hackenberg had a short pass that appeared to be tipped and dropped by rookie safety Jamal Adams, the Jets’ first-round draft pick.
“Missed opportunity,” Adams said. “It came out wobbly. I definitely had to make the play.”
Adams will be a Day 1 starter. Hackenberg didn’t see the field as a rookie.
“Steps forward. … Last year, he probably didn’t know what to expect as a rookie coming in and all that stuff,” running back Matt Forte said, “but mentally, he’s getting better. Josh is a great guy for him to be around because he’s been around a long time and can give him so much wisdom and advice towards the game and towards being a quarterback, on and off the field. So he’s gonna keep growing.”
Hackenberg is growing. Just not without the growing pains.
“He’s doing a lot better with his decisions and everything,” safety Rontez Miles said. “Looking forward to see how these guys do in the preseason … when it counts.”
When we’ll get a better read on whether Hackenberg truly can hack it.