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These people have double standards. Miss California says that she doesn't agree with same sex marriage and she is a bigot whore and gets ripped a new asshole. Barack Obama says the exact same thing when asked his opinion and he gets elected President.

Democrats typically do shit like that. They say one thing and do another.

The only person on this website to call the woman a whore is YOU. Who's putting words into whose mouth? And you know what? I find your use of the word "whore" to describe this would-be-beauty-queen very offensive.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Funny, I thought she actually used the moment onstage to answer a question she wasn't asked. She was asked, what should other states do about recognizing same sex marriage in other states, not how she feels about same sex marriage. So, to me, it seems like she seized upon an opportunity to state her opinion. (anyway... to be fair... I saw this pointed out in the Detroit Free Press)

Is she a bigot? Yeah. But if we are all really honest with ourselves, none of us have to dig too deep to find the bigotry in ourselves. Should she be Miss USA? Gee, if she had said that she was raised to believe that black people should be allowed to marry white people.. . . . well... yeah, that wouldm't have gone over too well either. Besides beauty queens should be fag hags. Cmon.

Anyway, Miss USA is such a big deal, with such earth shattering influence that I think it's best that we all make a very sage and deliberate decision regarding her disposition. Nothing could be more critical than making sure America's next beauty queen is the right person for the job.

By the way, Ann... I really hope she's a whore. I like whores. To me, they are sexually liberated women who have given up trying to fit their sexuality into a neat little christian box. (ummm yeah.alright. i just typed that.)

I think I will go run for Mister Leather now.

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Floating through the void in the caress of two giant pink lobsters named Esmerelda and Keith.

To be fair, pozafew, the right wing has done a lot more to enforce their own brand of thought orthodoxy in the last decade than they are willing to admit. I get oh so tired of listening to every single suggestion being branded 'socialist' or 'tax and spend' or 'family oriented' or 'family values' or blah blah blah. In fact, much of what is wrong with the conservatism in this day and age can be blamed on a bunch of loud mouthed idealists who try to socially engineer their version of amerika into law. They shout down anyone who disagrees with them. So... the truth is the commie pinko knee jerk liberals to which you refer aren't any worse than the fat ass fat cat gap toothed bible thumpers who think jesus was a republican we've had to endure for the last ten years.

I still think all beauty queens should be fag hags.

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Floating through the void in the caress of two giant pink lobsters named Esmerelda and Keith.

Lol. I don't go to those things. I wasn't out there chanting "Save Terri" when Terri Schiavo was removed from life support. To be honest those people make me laugh. I don't think the Republican party itself holds prayer vigils, I think people who are Christians and Republicans hold the vigils on their own. But I could be mistaken, since I don't participate in that stuff.

I go to a Unitarian Universalist church, and I am SURROUNDED by the most kneejerk liberals I have ever seen.

If you'd just said you were a unitarian universalist I might bite on the atheism conversion, but if you're attending church I will assume that you still hold protestant beliefs of the Universalist Church of America.

Um. ODD. But Unitarian Universalists are not Christians. Most UUs are secular humanists. Unitarians may be Christians, and Universalists may be Christians but UUs are not Christians. Some of the people at my Church are buddhist, some are jews, some are atheists, some are wiccans, some are nothing.

"Both Unitarianism and Universalism trace their origins to Christian Protestantism and thus Unitarian Universalism has its historical roots in the Christian faith. But by the time they decided to combine their efforts at the continental level, the theological significance of these terms had expanded beyond the traditional Christian understanding."

If you'd just said you were a unitarian universalist I might bite on the atheism conversion, but if you're attending church I will assume that you still hold protestant beliefs of the Universalist Church of America.

Um, no. The Unitarian and the Universalist Churches are seperate from the Unitarian Universalist churches. Sorry. There are Unitarian Churches, there are Universalist Churches, but there are also Unitarian Universalist Churches, which are NOT Christian Churches.

It's funny that I watched the video and not once did she compare race and gay marriage. But if you insist on comparing the two that's fine that is your opinion and YOUR right. I don't think you'll find too many Afro-American Baptists that will agree with you but that is THEIR opinion.

It's funny that I watched the video and not once did she compare race and gay marriage. But if you insist on comparing the two that's fine that is your opinion and YOUR right. I don't think you'll find too many Afro-American Baptists that will agree with you but that is THEIR opinion.

You're either mentally retarded or willfully obtuse -- take your pick. Like I stated previously, if she'd made the exact same comment about miscegenation laws she'd have received similar commentary. What's telling, however, is that you Roddles, see no similarity between anti-miscegenation laws and anti-gay marriage laws. You seem more than willing to roll over and be an apologist for passive bigotry. But then I'd expect nothing less from a guy who got AIDS in the 80's and thinks Reagan was a saint.

Okay, boys, I think we can wrap this one up. This conversation headed down a slippery slope several hours ago and I don't think anything productive is going to come out of this, other than more mud slinging and wounded egos.