Please be aware about the Hepatitis B vaccine

Hi everyone! I am mother to my 6 month old Lucas Rainer. I have been a member since 2 months pregnant.

I also wanted to inform mothers (if baby's exposure is not that high, eg. not playing with other children in daycare or 3rd World countries or parents are hep b negative) not to get the Hepatitis B vaccine or to hold off the vaccine for a later age.

My baby boy has been dx with eczema, and from observation now know that it was brought on by the Hepatitis B vaccine. I refused it at birth and was persuaded by medical personnel and gave it to him at 4 months. Since then he has had all kinds of rashes (just on hands and feet and injection, then all over his body, now on his face, head, and folds.) Please look at www.nvic.org and look up the hepatitis B vaccine. It is a reputable site and you can check out other vaccines. Please be aware that people are allergic to ALLERGENs but something triggers the body to be hypersensitive. A baby's immune system is immature and hypersensitivity is a possible reaction. The culprit in my son's case is his vaccine! Please be informed. I am not anti-vaccine. I am actually a practicing RN. I am pro informed-consent and having the right to refuse a vaccine.

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Ouch for Bella! Hope she heals soon. Our new house has concrete walls and floor (and ceiling too!), no padding! I have no socks, no spinning, no running in house rules so far...in addition to pre-existing no jumping on furniture. I am paranoid about broken bones now!

Eczema is not from Hep B!! Since you gave Hep B at 4 mo, is that when you started solids?? Eczema is very common in susceptible childrn with food allergies (most solid foods started at 4-6 mo) I'd hang my hat on that first!!

Its not Hep B. Watch you childs foods. Keep a diary. Report it to Pedi, and then need consult with Allergist . You stated you were a nurse, I'm one too (peds) trust me, exzema is not from Hep B! More likely your child has food allergen. See it all the time! HTH

The aluminum adjuvant is associated with eczema and food allergies. Both are known side effects of aluminum exposure. Too bad no proper safety testing has been done on aluminum adjuvants in pediatric vaccines. Studies have shown increase in asthma following vaccines with aluminum. Asthma, food allergy and eczema are all in same family of atopy/atopic allergies. People who have these also have higher risk of autoimmune disorders like type 1 diabetes, lupus, celiac disease, gulf war syndrome, rheumatoid arthritis, Irritable bowel syndrome...also associated with aluminum exposure.

Unfortunately immune problems are not the only side effect of aluminum exposure...it is also a potent neurotoxin. One disease associated specifically with HepB vaccine and aluminum hydroxide in shots is called macrophagic myofasciitis (MMF)...people with this problem like Gulf War Syndrome are noted to have both immune and neurologic problems as well as chronic pain from the aluminum adjuvant in their shots.

A shot containing aluminum adjuvant can cause eczema because it contains aluminum associated with this problem, or can cause food allergy that causes eczema. Also eczema is contraindication for some vaccines. One vaccine my daughter got (and reacted to) contained warning that children with eczema or strong family history of allergy should not receive it...my ped didn't tell me this. Also NVIC website and others state that eczema is risk factor for vaccine reaction.

Could be food allergy...could be vaccine reaction...could be food allergy caused by vaccine reaction...eczema could even be due to dry weather or something else in baby's environment (laundry detergent or bath soap), but no matter...eczema is signal of overactive immune system and is a risk factor for vaccine reaction and food allergies. This mom needs to be careful with both future shots and introducing new foods.

as for Maddie0610 his eczema rash started way before I gave him any solid food. He got his Hep B vaccine at 4 months, then within the next 2 weeks he got rashes on this hands and feet (was not hand, foot mouth disease) and then at the end of the 2 weeks we took a 2 day road trip (he was stressed from staying in the car seat for many hours at a time) and that is when I saw the all over body red rash (is wasn't dry or peeling). That rash was the beginning of eczema and I didn't put it together by then. Then when he was about 5.5 months I gave him some organic rice cereal from Earth's Best brand. He immediately broke out in hives that turned into eczema. I don't need anyone else to convince me that this eczema was AT LEAST exacerbated by the vaccine. It lowered his immune system OR just made it overactive (not necessarily efficient or better). I am tired of all these nurses that state I should not make these fringe remarks about vaccines..............but you know what...I am a mother FIRST and a nurse falls later down the list.

Listen, when Galileo stated that the earth was not the center of the universe he was persecuted b/c his belief was fringe. I feel this is the same thing. I'm tired of nurses not questioning what they have been taught in the event of looking "unprofessional". How has the human race survived all this time? PARENTING!!! Not b/c of the medical professionals. Why is the U.S. infant mortality rate ranked as #29th? Our "superb" medical care is definitely lacking.

Oh and I still haven't got any response for ANY VALID research study that states the SAFETY and EFFICACY of the HEP B vaccine in newborns that follows them into toddlerhood!!!! Where are the randomized controlled trials?????

And for all these peds/mother baby RNs that say "I see it all the time" how is your anecdotal information/observations BETTER than MINE????????? You guys are not conducting systematic research with controls!!!

I haven't forgotten about you asking about studies - I just have a life outside of BBC... yes, it's true!;) With my child, work, certification classes, preparing for JCAHO and a very tight deadline for completing my grad school app & compiling my immunization record (an absolute nightmare BTW), I haven't had time to do much searching for you.

I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for, but here are a couple of links (I haven't had time to read them) I found right off on PubMed on HB vax safety:

There were also several other links on PubMed to other info on HB vaxes and risks of Type 1 DM, autoimmune thyroid dz, & lack of association w/neonatal death. If you search PubMed, you should find links to all those. There is also a snippet on the AMA's website (referencing studies that I didn't have time to chase down) on safety.

FTR, I'm not telling you that there is no possibility that your child's issues are from the HB vax - only that there are multiple other common causes that you can't possibly rule out. The people that have offered you anecdotes haven't put it out there as scientific proof - it's just people trying to help you find other possible causes.

I'm not questioning your judgement, but was the all over red rash possibly a heat rash from spending that huge amount of time in a carseat? My LO always gets hot (even in the winter) when he's in his carseat for just 30 minutes and sometimes gets a heat rash all over his body. I guess my point is that rashes (all kinds) are extremely common in babies & it's sometimes difficult to know the cause.

ETA- I have a friend who expierenced the same thing with her LO and is the main reason why she stopped vaccinating. Her DS is now 6 yrs old , unvaccinated since 6 months and has never had eczema since. She swears it was the vaccines but who knows. Coincedence ?... maybe.

I have a real problem with medical pofessionals who won't even CONSIDER the possiblity that vaccines may be the cause of some adverse reactions. IMO , they loose all credibility.

I have a real problem with medical pofessionals who won't even CONSIDER the possiblity that vaccines may be the cause of some adverse reactions. IMO , they loose all credibility.

Lisa

Lisa--This is a strange thing to me as well. It is known that there are vaccine reactions, but some on this board seem adament that they are 100% safe. I don't get it. Not all concerns about vaccine safety are "conspiracy theories". The fact that there are adverse reactions is just that--- a fact. I think it's dangerous to be too extreme on either side of this debate.

I don't "know it" but from 15 yrs of Peds experience. Vaccinating 20+ children a day over that 15 yrs, and sometimes a lot more then that. I get the phonecalls from "reactions" to vaccines. Hep B is NOT one that I get a phonecall about. IN fact, probably never have, since I can't recall it. Dtap/Tdap, i'll give ya the localized site rxn, and sometimes fever. NOT HEP B!! Eczema, however, in my 15 yrs peds exp, does start to occur around 4-6 mo. Mostly due to solid introduction, sometimes environment. DEFINATELY NOT DUE to HEP B!! Most babies receive their first Hep B BEFORE they even leave the hospital. Otherwise, they get it at their first Drs visit. Then anther at 1 mo, and then around 9 mo.

Trust me the eczema is not due to Hep B!! Find other causes . Most likely food/milk/environmental allergies.

I don't "know it" but from 15 yrs of Peds experience. Vaccinating 20+ children a day over that 15 yrs, and sometimes a lot more then that. I get the phonecalls from "reactions" to vaccines. Hep B is NOT one that I get a phonecall about. IN fact, probably never have, since I can't recall it. Dtap/Tdap, i'll give ya the localized site rxn, and sometimes fever. NOT HEP B!! Eczema, however, in my 15 yrs peds exp, does start to occur around 4-6 mo.

That is most likely due to the fact that most vaccine reactions are not recognized and go largely unreported.

You wouldn't know a vaccine reaction if it was staring you in the face anyway. It would always be casued by something "else" ;)