I've meditated every now and then, but I'm not sure it's working. I mean, I don't do the most elaborate version of meditation, I just sit still somewhere with my eyes closed and no sound for 5 minutes. Am I missing out on something?

you cant just sit in a quiet room for just some minutes and expect anything to happen, the way to seek inside is to concentrate on one thing. an easy way to do this is to count numbers, every time you mess up start over again.

not even close nigga at all. try lsd then try not sleeping for 5 days. then tell me what one really made you trip and what one just made you realllllllly fucking tired. this is really one of the dumbest things iv read on this site in a minute, not just this comment but this whole idea. i thought this site was for people that smoke weed to get high. not tweaky ass mother fuckers who spend all there money on meth or coke or whatever then stay up for a week cuz they all turnt up. cuz iv stayed up long enough to "trip" (as u guys put it) and you aint pullin it off so easy if you aint rollin. oh and just to let yall know droping acid is gunna be way more safe then depriving yourself of what your body needs, sleep. NOW all that being said if you dont sleep for even a day (and so on) when you smoke a bowl youll get BAKED. but thats it.

I've been doing project on sleep deprivation and the mental and physical effects pf sleep deprivation. Instead of rambling on. I will simply tell you don't have a clue on how bad that is for you, trust me, i'm not here to preach. But your an idiot to deprive your self of sleep because its a "cheap way to get high". Smoke weed or don't, you need that sleep.

Really? Because I bet i've done just as much, if not more, research on sleep and sleep deprivation and the resounding answer is that we dont know fuck about sleep, why we sleep, or if human body really needs sleep on a daily basis. The only things we know for certain about sleep is that it is when our body grows, it is when we get our best thinking done, and dreaming is overall very positive on your whole life/mind/heart.

You dont NEED sleep, no one has been able to prove that. As mentioned above, sleep has many many positive impacts on your life, but you dont need it to survive, like you are stating. Actually, more scientists are in agreement that lack of sleep has little physical/mental impact on you other then the fact that you will be tired as fuck.

just maybe some sort of meditative practice could be an alternative to sleep, but you definitely need something to clean your mind up from time to time, or you'll just become completely demented. what you call being 'tired as fuck' is not just a more intense version of wishing to go to bed, it's complete mental obliteration.

You want sleep, but you dont NEED sleep. Yes, sleeping does wonders for your body, refreshes your brain, reduces your craving for food, you do most of your actual learning while sleeping and your muscles grow during sleep. But again, these are all wants, none of is it a need. We sleep every night because this is how we have evolved to become, the best way we know how to hit the refresh button on our bodies and minds. But no study has ever shown that going a day or two without sleep actually has any long term effects on you. Hell, the only reason you cant go a few days without sleep is because your body is so use to shuting down every night that it becomes confused and starts eating away at your neccesary vitamins and such that draw you to such a tired state.

You could go 3 days without sleep, then have a full sleep, and it would literally have no impact on your body. Yes, some scientists say that doing this long term can cause some dieseses such as diabetes and such.

Really, the best sleeping method is taking a 30 minute nap every 6 hours. Isaac newton use to do this, and a lot of other people throughout history. It is proven to be the most efficient way to use your body and get the most out of it. And if you do the math, that works out to about 2-3 hours of sleep in a 24 hour day. I would totally switch my sleeping schedule to this if I didnt have to work 12+ hours a day(no time to get a 30 minute nap in between). Also, it takes me laying in bed for 20+ minutes to go to sleep anyway, so this sleep cycle wouldnt work for me.

Lets not confuse wants and needs. You want sleep, your body wants it to get better, but you dont need it. We just havent found an alternative yet, but there are ways to reduce sleep in your life and make you a better person.

YOU NEED TO SLEEP. you are uneducated if you really believe you can live a full life without sleep. the most time without somebody sleeping recorded is 14 days. and he died. from sleep deprivation. even your comment contradicts itself. you say you dont need sleep...you want it...well then why dose your body start eating away at necessary vitamins if you dont have it. and why if you stay up for so many days, do you automatically fall asleep...hmmmm is it cuz you NEED sleep? im sure all the people who die from sleep deprivation didnt need any sleep, they just wanted it. you sound pretty dumb. its a need and will always be a need.

Lol, how can I take you seriously when you lie right off the bat? So you're smart enough to google "lingest time without sleep" but you're not smart enough to read what you google? That kid who set the record didn't die, they actually monitored him and found out that all his vital functions were normal after two night s of normal sleep. And the reason your body reacts that way, like I mentioned earlier if you had actually read, is because your body is not use to staying awake so long and a bodies reaction to foreign things is to shut down or try to normalize, aka fall asleep. And scientific american and numerous other people (including colleges) have had patients go 8-12 days without sleep and no one died. Ever. In fact, after a couple days all were as healthy as they have ever been.

So where did you read about someone dying from sleep deprivation? Oh that's right, that asian guy who went 13 days watching sports and died. But did you not read that he was also smoking and eating unhealtht and drinking alcohol consistantly during the 13 days and suffered a heart attack?

I sound dumb yet you bring out stats that you made on the spot. Even my 4 year old nephew can use googleproperly, so what does that say about your intellectual level? Does little baby need a nappy nappy time because hhe's getting grumpy??

i didnt "google" anything asshole. thats just what iv heard. i dont give enough shits to google anything for this argument. you did tho im guessing cuz you know everything what shows up when you google it. but im not gunna argue, i was just puting in my two cents cuz you were kinda being a dick to that guy who was simply warning people not to stay up for days at a time with the intention to get high, cuz weather you admit it or not..it is just plain ole unhealthy to do that. take the rest of this argument up with your doctor, cuz GOOGLE aint always right. weather your a 4 year old who can use it properly or not.

he only called one person an idiot..the person who is telling people not to sleep for days at a time with the intention of getting high. because that is very idiotic...its unhealthy and if you want to get high smoke weed..it dosnt cost that much (thats how you were a dick)...oh and you said you dont need sleep, you just want it...thats exactly what you said. yet the people in your study were only completly healthy AFTER 2 days of SLEEP. so they needed sleep to be healthy. get what im trying to tell you? im saying you do need sleep. yes you can go a couple days and be fine but in the end you need sleep. you dont just want it...you need it. if you dont agree with what im saying right now, your just ignorant

Ive said this like three times now I don't understand why you selectively read my commentd. The reason these test subjects needed two days to recover is because their bodies are not use to not sleeping. Our bodies are accustomed to having daily sleep. And anatomy 101, if you do anything different from your daily routine, your body will react to it negatively. This isn't to say that your body doesn't like it, just that it is confused and reacting to tell you that something has changed. The fact that these people went 8-12 days and there was zero observed impact says that the lack of sleep did not effect them, after the initial impact wore off. So if you could train your body to go without sleep for extended periods of time, you wouldn't feel the tiredness.

Like priests in china and india. There are priests who have gone years without sleep and they are alive and healthy. How do you explain that? They trained their minds and body that sleep isn't needed.

Also, what's the point of downvoting all my comments? You realize it will jist look like you are having a convo with yourself.

Feel free to continue believing whatever you hear is the truth. You won't grow unless you start questioning tjings and not just taking everything as a trith.

u guys spent way to much time typeing for a senseless argument...... you need sleep to be healthy, though it may not be necessary, it is defenitly the better option over not sleeping. Yea this is a cheap way to get high but i wouldn;'t make it a habit, thats it......... i just covered the entire discussion it 3 sentences u guys spent paragraphs... sure shows how much of a pot head u are.

hahah dont talk to me like you the all knowing mighty stoner, cuz your not. just because i think i need sleep dosnt mean i take everything i hear as truth. i for one dont even watch the news hardly because i know there just lying to you and hypnotizing you. so yeah you dont know me or what i think and believe so lets keep those types of comments to ourselves, because once again your being ignorant and making points that are irrelevant. just cuz your yoinkie and you have more popular highdeas then most people, dosnt make you right, smart, or any more of a stoner then the rest of us. hell man i even understand what your saying in a way but just the fact that you got that additude where you gotta be the mother fucker thats always right no matter what its about (SLEEPING) made me want to argue with you and see how far you took it and how ignorant you got. hahah keep spending them hours on the internet bro.

i personally agree with both arguments, you do not need sleep to survive, but it is essential to LIVE, when i say that i mean you can stay alive without sleep, but sleep is how your body recovers from the stress of the day, everything inside you slows down, just recovering, your brain processes everything away and stores that day as a memory and prepares itself for the next day, when you go for a long period of time without sleep, eventually your brain will have to work extremely hard and began to overload, and you cant focus on anything hardly. so where you dont need sleep to survive, you need it to function. but i do not disagree with either side of this conversation

Pressing gently on the eyes, eye lids surrounding the eye/pupils.
This cuases phosphors or something of that nature to "fire" in which a manifestation of complex colors, shapes, and patterns similar to any hallucinogen or strong as fuck Buddha. Does not last long.
To each their own.
Apparently there's a lot of ways to trip.
This one in my opinion is my favorite when I'm broke, ha ha.

HAHA I've been doing that since I was a kid man, I would keep it up for ages and would always notice discernible patterns and colors that would change depending on how long you've had pressure on your eyes.

when I close my eyes I see all that shit automatically more prominantly when I was younger, my eyes are real sensitive though and I have a perma scowl, but I dont mind because it keeps me warm in the wintertime

Yeah, cheapest if you don't work or study. But for every single person who has to sustain themselves, going without sleep for a bunch of days is gonna cost you a whole lotta work.. A lot more than an eighth would.