Comments on: Open thread for mathematicians on the immigration executive orderhttps://terrytao.wordpress.com/2017/01/31/open-thread-for-mathematicians-on-the-immigration-executive-order/
Updates on my research and expository papers, discussion of open problems, and other maths-related topics. By Terence TaoFri, 18 Aug 2017 00:11:18 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: clarificationneededhttps://terrytao.wordpress.com/2017/01/31/open-thread-for-mathematicians-on-the-immigration-executive-order/#comment-484932
Sun, 13 Aug 2017 20:52:56 +0000http://terrytao.wordpress.com/?p=9642#comment-484932I think you are hiding a lot in ‘I myself, like many other academics working long-term in the United States, have certainly experienced my own share of immigration bureaucracy, starting with various glitches in the renewal or application of my J-1 and O-1 visas, then to the lengthy vetting process for acquiring permanent residency (or “green card”) status, and finally to becoming naturalised as a US citizen (retaining dual citizenship with Australia)’ either voluntarily or involuntarily.

If you are a professor at UCLA then I believe UCLA should sponsor you, period. If you are born in Australia the immigration process (even if you are applied at a mediocre category of EB2) after UCLA applies for you will not take more than 6 months and may be a year, period. You never had to apply for O visa since you were over 18 and at 21 you were already a professor at UCLA, period. H1B to greencard seems direct for you.

Either UCLA misguided you or you were overpaying a mediocre lawyer or you are providing information in a pretty controlled way that supports your opinion.

Do you even know the struggle of regular legal immigrants who really are held hostage by illegals?

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Sun, 14 May 2017 21:00:12 +0000http://terrytao.wordpress.com/?p=9642#comment-480711sure thing, Trigglypuff :D
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Sun, 14 May 2017 16:59:16 +0000http://terrytao.wordpress.com/?p=9642#comment-480705Go tell your mommy she wants you, snowflake.
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Sat, 13 May 2017 20:28:37 +0000http://terrytao.wordpress.com/?p=9642#comment-480659Thank you, Terry Tao for being a powerful ally in the fight against racism, homophobia, misogyny, xenophobia, islamophobia, and sexism. The corrupt fascist orange pig destroying our country must be impeached and we, The Resistance, will NOT back down until he utterly FAILS and is OUT OF OFFICE!
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Sat, 13 May 2017 19:52:04 +0000http://terrytao.wordpress.com/?p=9642#comment-480658so sad even some of our so-called brilliant minds fall victim to this msm propaganda.
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Wed, 03 May 2017 18:41:29 +0000http://terrytao.wordpress.com/?p=9642#comment-480228Now that was a substantive comment, just filled with thoughtful and well-reasoned content.

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Fri, 31 Mar 2017 17:29:51 +0000http://terrytao.wordpress.com/?p=9642#comment-479500Become illegal and work in the farms that is what dems like about their only class of favorite immigrants. Trump is making it explicit what has always been a scam. You come here pay 10’s of 1000s of dollars to study work your butt off all in servitude for a right to live freely (isn’t that ironic? but still better than where I came from I guess).

I don’t even see why this article is taken seriously. He is talking of ‘Nevertheless, while the process could be slow and frustrating, there was at least an order to it’ and connects to the larger framework of immigration ban. A logically coherent article whose big picture is at best mute, He is talking of his own experiences which I bet does not apply to 99.99999% human beings ever born. And even the experiences of people of his caliber has been tough. If asked he is showing a joke statement that the math community or ams has posted as legitimate stand of advocacy in their open letter about immigrant students (http://www.ams.org/about-us/governance/policy-statements/sec-immigration).

You are talking of a lottery for H1B (in fact in all practicality if the system is run properly you do not need it unless you are from China and India or just a person with BS). You know all these tech companies have these publicity stunt about hiring minorities and girls and which faculty and the broad community highlight as a good way. Why cant they do the same thing about applying for Green cards instead of H1Bs? It is a simple truth that people from anywhere outside India and China do not need a H1B if they have a MS degree since the time for these people to a get a green card is about 9 months which they can get while waiting on their OPT or even right from the offer of employment. Why don’t faculty like Tao take concrete steps in advertising these things which can be legitimately done within the current system rather than try to get a magical icecream milked from a mystical cow in the sky? I am sure things like these will get noticed.

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Fri, 31 Mar 2017 13:38:52 +0000http://terrytao.wordpress.com/?p=9642#comment-479493We are not talking about the interest of “international scholars” but about US citizens who work and study at US universities. It’s an American reality that in many areas (especially in math), the vast majority of profs are not from the US. In my department, only 10% of the profs are US born.

Hitler was a good example for a leader who thought, he could afford to drive away scientists from his country. You know well, which country received those who were driven away from Germany.

No, the Ivory tower is not as isolated as our fearless leader and his followers would like to believe.

Figuring out economic impact of a particular executive order to a country, it’s outright dangerous to think about only those who seem to be directly involved in money making. Just think about the fate of the North Carolina bathroom bill. Just couple of days ago, it got reversed since NC lawmakers didn’t consider its possible economic impact to their state. They just thought “how can our bill have any consequences? We are talking about a minuscule portion of the population, namely the transgenders, who’ll be impacted.”

The same can be said about the national security impact of various Trump proposals. Instead of increasing national security, they very much could increase national insecurity.

We can safely say, Trump and his followers are short sided, and price will paid.