What Are The Biggest Obstacles To Romance That Beta Males Face?

It’s Krauser’s business, of course he’s going to say that. Most guys would never cold approach a girl on the street to even know if she was a “yes”. Cold approaching is game, knowing how to escalate a “yes” is game, “converting maybes to yeses” is game, but it’s not where it starts, it’s moving the goalposts for PUAs to distinguish themselves in an increasingly saturated market. Nothing against Krauser, just ran into him last week, but approach anxiety is hands down the biggest issue all guys face. Getting over AA and flipping stones to find a “yes” girl is game, even if PUAs consider it insufficiently difficult to merit their notice.

In my opinion, approach anxiety is one of the top three hurdles beta males face on the journey to romantic fulfillment. The other two are the urge to appease women and the avoidance of escalating sexual tension.

Basically, the three SELF-COCKBLOCKING ISSUES bedeviling beta men are all downstream of one character trait they share: fear of failure. Cowardice, if you want to be mean-spirited about it. Reflectiveness, if you want to be nice.

Contra Krauser (or whatever his detractors claim he’s said), Game is part of nailing down the “yeses”. A lot of men blow it with “yes” women — how many dates have you been on that didn’t end with sex? — and could use the aid of game to stop doing those things that cause “yes” women to turn into “no” women.

I’ve written this before, but it bears repeating: Game is as much the discarding of unsexy beta habits as it is the accumulating of sexy alpha habits.

Also related: You can calm your nerves before hitting on women. This is known as Inner Game.

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None of the ugly truths discussed at CH are really off-topic. New research uses brain scans to estimate IQ. Mark your calendars. May 15, 2017 is the day Leftoid Equalism died.

Also not really off-topic: The Audacity of Yuge hypothesizes that the sexbot revolution could be a boon for America’s native stock fertility, rather than the civilization destroying sexual market shake-up I have foreseen.

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Yeah, well, the choice is what, swooping up an EE gal or destroy the White race by mixing with all those allegedly demure latinas and orientals?

Got news fer all o’ youse… bring ANY woman to the West these days and if you don’t have what it takes to rein ’em in, it won’t take long before you’re wondering what the hell happened, as they turn into those same Western women you decry.

Ain’t nuthin’ ‘demure’ about Latinas.
What planet do you live on ?
Asian-Americans are the most entitled, self-obsessed, materialistic b1tch3s east, west, north aaaaaannndd south of Rodeo Drive.
And Asian-Asian girls become un-demure very, very quickly as soon as they pick up da Engrish, which they tend to do rather quickly.

At lest you have a ~shot~ in EE for Christ sake. The electric fences keeping out unwelcome welfare parasite -sovereign destroying Islamo-fascist filth is overwhelmingly agreed upon in EE. Despite that, and in general terms, [that] doesn’t negate the total cost of ownership of any women (resources, nagging, time, energy, game, ect) that runs up against your first priority: the sanctity of your mission to win on your terms.

O\t…but my girlfriend ran into a DMV snafu and couldn’t get her registration dove via online. I told her to go to a mobile site even if its a tad out of the way so that you don’t have to be in the DMV ZOO with stinky ass migrants (NOVA) and Burka clad hijabs…

She said I was offensive. And I said good, get used to it. Egalitarian equalism, inclusion, diversity is the destroyer.

Asian-Americans are the most entitled, self-obsessed, materialistic b1tch3s east, west, north aaaaaannndd south of Rodeo Drive.
And Asian-Asian girls become un-demure very, very quickly as soon as they pick up da Engrish, which they tend to do rather quickly.

I’ve been psyching myself into working at talking to every girl I encounter. Even just saying some gibberish, just to get practice and get better at my intros. (Though I don’t talk about the weather. I’m learning to tease women much like I’d tease my sisters.) That’s where I need to improve in addition to not falling into a girls frame, maintaining mine and always being “on”, so to speak.

To often I’d be in a sine wave like mental funk and I’d only be “on” of the mood struck. Trying to break that bad habit. Exercising and building up the T has helped.

One of the things that would help with all three categories is an inner, masculine sexuality.

I consider this different from “Game.” If you have biceps-triceps muscles, show ’em off. If you talk well, engrave “I chat awesome” into your foremind. Anything. I could go on for pages.

Game is a skill, but the knowledge of masculine attractiveness is something you can employ any time, without conscious effort. Just starting by being aware of your gender as a distinct thing from hers is a great start.

Wasn’t there a post a bit ago asking if being a cunning linguist was beta?

@nads
I have noticed that cunnilingus is used by dominant women sort of as the opposite-sex equivalent of a blowjob — something you let a beta orbiter do that doesn’t mean that much to you.

There was a story here once about an omega male in an openly polyamorous relationship with a girl who slept around. Only thing he was allowed to do with her was eat her out.

Also, there is a hot blonde slutty bitch single mom I know who had a gamma (bitterbeta) orbiting her and they became an item for a short time, and of course she ended up dripping contempt for him. Reading between the lines of the verbiage the gamma wrote on Facebook, their sexual activity was limited to cunnilingus, as with that omega.

So yeah… it strikes me as intrinsically beta, and these two anecdotes suggest to me that it strikes women that way too.

You could always jam a finger up her ass and leave it there while grinning idiotically at her over the mons as you disengage.
Only the youngest, freshest girls are tolerable, as I discovered several decades ago ( I just don’t any more, any woman over about 22 is usually unknowingly rank and foetid, the poor thing, Like battery acid and aluminium mixed with brewery draff, and a hint of dung. It’s strictly a drunk man’s sport).

I have had issues with approach anxiety but often with the case of fearing that the woman is too young to approach, most of the time i have probably been right in guessing that the girl is too young but i am also blown it many times because the girl who looked 14 or 15 may well be 4 or 5 years older. Should a player approach girls who they are very attracted to even though they look underage? especially if they are with family for example.

Also is the case where you see a girl with a guy and you feel very attracted to her but the guy is very likely to be her boyfriend but also a chance that he may just be a friend or relative, what would you say about that?

The classic Mystery Method for that is an indirect approach, reach a hook point, and then ask how they know each other.

[CH: it’s in the nature of man to admire a new idea, disavow it when it becomes a classic, and then to relearn the wisdom of the discarded classic when replacement ideas fail to achieve the same success.]

I have read some PUAs say you never stop having approach anxiety, you just learn to deal with it. But approach anxiety applies mostly to cold approaches I think and you can divide cold approaches up by how cold they really are. Having a situational cold approach works well, it gives you another reason for being there and makes indirect banter more plausible sounding. Cold approaches aren’t real easy so it’s something that helps.

[CH: mystery is right that indirect openers are a great way for men to get over AA.]

the perhaps less obvious implication of why the indirect opener works is that women need to see how sociable a guy is. so instead of his entire sociability demo resting on her (and she likely doesn’t have the best social skills herself), he can take pressure off by spreading the interaction around.

it’s hard for a guy to understand the pins-and-needles existence of the average woman. their entire world is built around their smv, and whether it appears to be rising or falling at any given moment. they trip themselves up out of this nervousness as often, if not more, than the tongue-tied beta noob.

approaching in ANY way that doesn’t trigger their “OMG! MY SACRED SMV!” is the what a smooth player does. it’s also what a harmless beta does. so the artful player comes in under the radar, seemingly indifferent to her smv, while gradually drip-feeding her small doses of his high smv. in this way he keeps her in the interaction while building attraction, but not building it TOO fast.

as sentient said, “hey”, said with relaxed ease, is a perfectly good opener.

Thanks for highlighting my comment Heartiste, I’ve been a reader for 6 years and it’s an honor to make a small contribution to the discussion.

I second what you wrote, when learning game I went all indirect for the initial months. I’d ask the time, directions, general questions, then moved on to basic compliments (“Hey, I just had to tell you…I like your dress, your hair, smile, etc. reminds me of x,y,z). Guys starting out shouldn’t get caught up with whether a girl will be interested or not. Leave a number of girls with smiles on their faces and soon enough you’ll quickly detect whether she’s game for more. Guys like Krauser can show you how to make the most of the 10% of girls that are maybes/yes, but simply opening girls (especially the first 100) will teach you more than you could ever learn otherwise. For a straightforward place to start I recommend the Roosh Program: http://www.rooshv.com/the-roosh-program

CH there is a post you have in past (way back) that is something like Game is making you (CH) not believe in love. It goes through a well thought out list of things normally done on approach to contact info / bounce / lay. (well worth a repost in my opinion)

Everyone complains about western women. But it’s not their fault that men act this way around them.

The biggest issue I see with Betas is that they tuck tail and run at the first whiff of resistance from a woman. Women in the west get hit on constantly. Even average janes in high traffic occupations like barista, waitress will get hit on frequently.

What would anyone do if they got too much attention? Of course they cop an attitude by default.

Beta: So I notice you are eating salad, trying to lose weight? (some ill conceived neg a guy read on a red pill forum)

Girl: Is that one of those PUA lines guys say to make me have low self esteem?

Beta: I’m so sorry you know the game I’m outta here?
And the beta runs at the first sign of girl resistance
OR you could try the Alpha way

Alpha: So I notice you are eating salad, trying to lose weight? (probably over acting a bit to give the indication of playful teasing)

Girl: Is that one of those PUA lines guys say to make me have low self esteem?

Alpha: So… you are trying to lose weight. Trying to get my attention I am free for the next 3 minutes 57 seconds.

The point is that Western Women are educated and are educated to think overly highly of themselves. And why not? Men will hit on them even with a bitchy attitude. The key is to look beyond this first resistance and see if she’s a decent person underneath the feminist programing.

You really need to get some fresh material, you stupid fuckin’ twat.
Or is that the best your inbred habsurg papist fuck ass can come up with ?
Stupid shit from the squeeler expected shortly, watch for it.

He gets on here with his ( in his mind, if that’s what you want to call that blob of jizzum in his skull betwixt his ears. ) attempts to edgy shitpost. He says he’s a grown up, I don’t buy it. He’s probably an autismo living at home with mommy, dreaming of some piece of shit “empire” run by inbred papist ” royalty ” .
Fuck that moron, he don’t add anything to any conversation here at all at any time.

I thought you knew by now that oink’s spiel is running interference for the (((tribe))), by maintaining that (((they’re))) not the ones pulling the strings, (((they’re))) merely the lackeys for the old Yankee aristocracy.

He wasn’t getting much traction with calling them Yankees, so somewhere along the way he switched to Anabaptist… fuck all who knows why, since the old distraction spiel still isn’t convincing anyone.

[CH: how about just calling them puritans? that word never fails to trigger shitlib puritans.]

I’m guessing that maybe about 1/3 of Euros are still White and more or less ok in the head.
Time for them to either stock up on a whole buncha items they are not legally allowed to own and prepare for 30 years of World W@r J1h@d muth@fuck1n Zombiepocalypse house to house and gutter to gutter or gather info about emigrating overseas and fast.

While I doubt that it is going to be broadly survivable, I would still want to go down swinging. I am sure that sending your enemy to hell with your own hands could be very satisfying. Scruples I am sure I would not have.

If you are out in some fortified rural hilltop town in France or Italy and can still farm or fish, you may have a chance.

Samurai swords. Cross bows. Long bows. Stilletto knives. These are all still obtainable and have been proven throughout history to be great tools.

You do not have to be a master knifeman to kill well with a knife. Mostly, it’s about concealment, misdirection, ambush, and knowing the best targets.

Stabbing multiple times shallower is better than one deep. Wound suction can make it hard to withdraw a deep blade.

The activist wing of the early Anabaptists (as opposed to the Mennonites) were fierce millenarians who believed it was their duty to actively attempt to bring about Christ’s next kingdom on earth. They didn’t believe in “free love”, they believed in the commonality of property, including women (far more Islam than Marx).

I’ve never heard about rainbow flags, but that seems unlikely, as they mostly marched under the cross (and happily murdered and robbed anybody that wasn’t part of their mob).

I am not sure what oink is on about but the Anabaptists were radical communists back in the early Renaissance period in Germany. They went under a rainbow flag, forbade the wearing of clothes, insisted on forced “free love”, all kind of batshit crazy and outright murderous stuff.

Rothbard wrote a very interesting account of their activities in Munster back then, but since reading it I have never been able to find it again.

Trying again but without the link –
“Messianic Communism in the Protestant Revolution,” archived at the Mises Institute. Rothbard says they were destroyed in 1535 but oink thinks they still run things. He’s obviously confused, the antinomians who really run things are not the Anabaptists but the followers of Joseph Frank.

VD, that don’t have a damn thing thing to do with the piggies sperg outs.
He’s a try hard fucktard troll, nothing more . Muntzer and Zwickau prophets are cults, not Anabaptists, Rothbard ‘s books or articles on history, take ’em with a grain of salt.

Is it caused because the male is truly impressed by the woman? Or, as is more likely, is it a defensive mechanism in the man to keep him from dangerously trespassing on the woman’s grounds?

Every time you cross a woman, whatever your intentions, a chiming bell goes off warning you that if a chick doesn’t like you, she has a hundred guys to call on if she so wanted (she doesn’t want, but that’s not the point).

I suppose the ultimate in pick-up, even beating naturals, would be if you could treat the act of approach as a work of art in progress and a beautiful thing. I like to approach girls with a light step in my heart and that notion in my mind.

my take on why approach anxiety is hard-wired into us is that if she’s receptive you gotta figure out how to support her and her offspring, and/or be accepted by her family/clan. if she rejects you then you can be, like, “whew…now I ain’t gotta worry bout kids!”

and if you try and just drink the milk without buying the cow, ie. use her for sex, which is what the average guy wants to do with the AVERAGE girl, then you have to ponder what the repercussions are from her family will be.

lastly, if she’s already been claimed, you have to worry about whether you can get in and get out before he wakes up from a nap.

the idea that approach anxiety is just some minor nuisance to be overcome in order to get laid is a recent idea that could only exist in the post-birth control, post fetus-culling era. it was wired in there for a reason: because sex and childbirth are matters of life and death.

my take on why approach anxiety is hard-wired into us is that if she’s receptive you gotta figure out how to support her and her offspring, and/or be accepted by her f@mily/clan. if she rejects you then you can be, like, “whew…now I ain’t gotta worry bout no kids!”

and if you try and just drink the milk without buying the cow, ie. use her for sex, which is what the average guy wants to do with the AVERAGE girl, then you have to ponder what the repercussions are from her f@mily will be.

lastly, if she’s already been claimed, you have to worry about whether you can get in and get out before he wakes up from a nap.

the idea that approach anxiety is just some minor nuisance to be overcome in order to get laid is a recent idea that could only exist in the post-birth control, post fetus-culling era. it was wired in there for a reason: because sex and childbirth are matters of life and death.

That’s the real problem, the entire institutional apparatus that a simple social error or miscalculation can bring down on a man these days. Rejection isn’t the problem, but rather this penalty phase.

Since the 1980s men have been told how they will be punished for “sexual harassment” or worse when the woman doesn’t like them. It isn’t taught to accept rejection and move on or to convert a rejection, but that rejection in and of itself means he did something wrong and punishable.

Loss of reputation, job, business, whathaveyou is all in play from so much as a failed approach, something he says that is taken the wrong way, and so on.

Now couple this increasing risk or at least the perception of it with the falling reward. The overall lowering SMV of the average woman coupled with her not offering anything but her SMV.

So lowering reward, increasing risk, and we are supposed to wonder why men aren’t approaching women? It’s really that simple.

PUAs like feminists and much of the rest of society tell men to ‘man up’ and increase their skills and their value and chase women no matter how bad the reward/risk and reward/effort ratios become. That men should have infinite risk tolerance and put forth whatever effort it takes. But that’s just not how markets work. As costs increase potential buyers diminish. That’s just the way it is. Sex isn’t any different.

As human beings we make these market calculations. We aren’t the animals depicted on wild kingdom that will take extreme risks to mate. Which is another thing, with modern contraceptives even if reproduction was some overwhelming goal justifying the risks as if were mere animals, the male risks his life for effectively nothing.

Very solid, realistic post.
I can’t count the number of times I’ve heard women tell men (myself as well as others) to ‘improve themselves’ in order to basically ‘be worthy’ of women.
Then, when these women actually get to know the man and his circumstances, they are at a complete loss for words, because there really isn’t anything that he could realistically do to further improve.
When you then read them the Women’s Requirements Act, they are dumbstruck with the brutal, simple truth of it all.

the very actual hardcore truth is that women oversell themselves. (nature’s used car salesman)). eggs be more expensive than sperm, but that doesn’t mean they’re more valuable.

it took until 1800AD for the total human population to hit 1 billion. today it’s at 7 billion and counting. eggs have never been cheaper, and the price is still falling.

add in the sexual history of today’s average sloot, and you realize that if the sexual market was an unfettered free market SHE would be paying YOU for sex. remind yourself of that when you approach.

also, women need to be able to tell themselves, and their girlfriends, that there was a snowball’s chance in hell that you were interested in her as an actual person. that’s some weird condition they have. so just play along. uncertainty is usually what does the trick, initially, at least. “he loves me. he loves me not…” kinda thing.

Approach anxiety will dwindle if you treat the chick as a friend, someone who knows you and likes you. When you view her as “some stranger in the city,” you’re carrying all the baggage of that perception with you. But when you arrive at a “she’s nice” viewpoint — at least equally valid in probability — you win.

From what I know of Mystery, everything from his handle to his peacocking was designed to set him apart.

I imagine that his approaches were equally unique and played into that style. But that was HIS style, and his way of dealing with AA. Every aspiring player has to find his own style that works for HIM.

[CH: Mystery’s FMAC Game manual is universally applicable, but his personal style — the magic tricks, supernegs, and feather boa — were geared to the LA nightclub scene, where he had to 1. get the attention of super hotties accustomed to mingling with millionaire movie producers and 2. get these hotties invested in him, which meant provoking them to shit test him about his over-the-top style.]

Peacocking is one of the most red-pilling concepts of all because it demonstrates at what a really basic, limbic level human psychology operates.

Simple example: I go to the supermarket/mall on my motorbike. I wear a bandanna tied across my face against the harsh tropic sun. When I park outside the mall, I either put the bandanna in a pocket or I tie it around my wrist.

Here’s the thing: When I tie it around my wrist, once in the mall, I clearly get many, many more indicators of interest.

This is just a simple fact. Nothing else is different except that i am wearing that – apparently – sexy and badass bandanna around my wrist.

The redpill? Humans are apparently just reaction-machines. Disappointing. But actionable.

You can flip Approach Anxiety from a negative into a positive if it leads you to self-examination with total honesty.

These are the questions to ask: Do I have the will to continue this (hitting on different girls I like)? Did I make a mistake with the last girl or was it just a fluke? What areas of general improvement to I need to make in myself?

Often, the only barrier prohibiting improvement is motivation. The wall of AA quailing gives one the resilience of bouncy shoes to bounce over it, if one is not totally halted by it.

It was funny, I took the Male Dating Market Value test for guys I know or have found attractive. The highest value any of them got was Greater Beta. The issues that kept them from being alpha had to do with approach. All the pieces were there, but they were avoidant.

I’ve heard that a true alpha is super rare, but it strikes me that a lot more guys could be alphas if they felt like they had a certain permission to do so. Maybe there’s some sort of cultural holdup. It looked to me like approach game alone is enough to boost a guy’s notch one more up.

I think the trend now is for a greater beta to peacock and wait for someone in the six category to peacock them, as opposed to pursue.

I’ll usually warm-approach, i.e., if I get eye contact and a smile. Nowadays, the only time I won’t warm-approach is if the girl is ugly, which actually doesn’t happen all that much.

I might and do cold-approach lone girls if they aren’t really doing anything (standing in line, most commonly) and have no earbuds in. If they’re in a group, I’ll typically only do it if they’re not really engaged in the group conversation and appear to be on the sidelines.

“Then again, from a former female friend, some girls aren’t that good at giving off the invitation signal. They’re being TOO subtle for their own good.”

Young single women aren’t truly comfortable around men, so they often come off as rude and aloof, scaring off the less-alpha men. This is also why betas often get hooked up with older women, single moms, divorcees, bored engaged or m4rried women, and so forth — they ARE comfortable around men and their IOIs are more fluid and inviting.

Pro comment. If you can be playful and solid zfg even if she’s awkward or rude, you’ve helped her overcome herself. She’ll never forget it.

At the grocery store a few days ago, had a woman blatantly check me out and sweetly ask me to get beets down from a high shelf for her. She was so grateful she introduced herself. Yep… washed out mid 40s. The best things in life don’t flop on your lap, you have to go get them. The struggle is the way.

[blockquote] I wonder: If you had an unlimited harem, would you ever experience Approach Anxiety? [/blockquote]

I have two ‘girlfriends’ currently, one that I find crazy hot and the other is very cute, and two girls on rotation as occasional fuckbuddies (one is eh but is super fun and the other is hotter than either of the girlfriends), and I still freak out when I need to approach (and chicken out way too goddamn much). All but one of them was from cold approach.

I doubt that having even more girls that I want to fuck in my stable would take the edge off of cutting the distance on a stranger, breaking the daze she’s in and spitting game. That first minute is brutal, even when it turns out well. Obviously your mileage may vary. Maybe I’m just a fucking pussy.

“I have two ‘girlfriends’ currently, one that I find crazy hot and the other is very cute, and two girls on rotation as occasional fuckbuddies (one is eh but is super fun and the other is hotter than either of the girlfriends)”

I suspect Approach Anxiety also reduces pleasure. There must be a graph where two lines cross: You knowing her too long, and the degree of Approach Anxiety. (You can see my techie background surfacing here.) In terms of reducing pleasure, AA should make you doubt yourself, which redounds to how you view yourself as a pleasure machine. Thus less feel-good-ness.

On the other hand, like a feral dog, she’ll sense your wariness unless you’re a supreme actor, and she’ll treat you worse.

Thinking of grecian formula. Bought a great hair razor (Wahl) because I wanted to do my own haircut and maybe the fascist. But now I have let it grow long again because some chicks dig the look. But I’m getting really gray now.

Does the Chateau shanty gallery agree that guys dying hair is gay/homo or is it no big deal.

Keep thinking the manly thing to do is just shave it off and keep it tight, or else just own it, the gray that is, and nsfg. But another part in my mind says who cares. Going to move to California from the east coast and find some of these gals for sure man.

Me, as a child and teenager I was a white-haired blonde. Today as an old guy I am fortunate in that have a full head of hair but the color is patchy, very gray (white) in some places and my natural (pale) color elsewhere. It looks like the coat on a mongrel dog. It looks tired and doesn’t work.

So I bleach my color right out to white – which is natural for my fair skin – and have a short fascist haircut. I have very blue eyes and a large, masculine head so I have a kind of Eastern front look. I have always found that girls don’t mind men who look a bit fierce.

If you are a blond, the growing out of darker parts doesn’t matter. It is a kind of look. Touching up dark hair must be a pain.

One key is to get a *good* haircut. Most haircutters don’t care and have no clue. A good one is gold.

I cannot emphasize this enough. I used to go to Supercuts (okay, okay, get all the laughs out) and the hair was passable. I never liked how it would come out, no matter how often I’d tell them what I wanted.

I decided to spend more–which given how much Supercuts was charging, it wasn’t that much more–on a better haircut. Now the lady that cuts my hair, cuts it how I like it and it’s made all the difference.

I was drinking a Pina Colada at Trader Vic’s and someone told me my hair was perfect.

I used to go for the high ‘n’ tight look, Vag Dom is right about the hair dresser part, most of them are clueless hacks (pun intended), barely more than scissors and a razor with a human body attached.
The only one I ever came across who actually understood wat I wanted her to do and did it was a very young & cute SE Asian gal (Philippino perhaps), but I only saw her just that once, maybe she got fired, maybe she found a better job, maybe some guy put a ring on it.
I ended up buying my own clippers, continuing the high ‘n’ tight path, but then I grew very tired of all the shaved heads and skin fades I saw every day everywhere and started growing it out.
I’m not at the Soundgarden reject stage yet, but I’m starting to qualify for Mötley Crüe tribute band.

If you’re that concerned about it and have naturally dark hair, use Just For Men Control GX. Read the reviews online. You may be surprised by the results you get from women. Chances are right now a lot of women are pretty brazen in their IOI’s, while a lot of them also think of you as being too old (depending on how young the girls you’re targeting are). Expect women to becomes much more coy in their IOI’s if you go dark again.

AA will hold you back more than any other flaw in your arsenal. The other flaws at least happen in the heat of battle, but if you have AA, you don’t even get to play. You’re not in the game to start with.

I realized this 3-4 years ago with the advent of Tinder and other hook-up apps. They took cold approaching out of the equation, and i had an obscene uptake in interest from women. I couldn’t even put a figure on it, as a percentage figure it was in the thousands.

I realized at that point there was very little wrong with anything I was doing except for the fact I hardly ever approached. That was the one single thing holding me back.

I think IRL approaching happens less now than ever, because of these apps. Which means the rewards will be greater if you have the cojones.

In the iPhag age, a girl’s gonna appreciate the opportunity to meet the old fashioned way more than she ever has.

Krauser “said”.Krauser! A mega-beta who failed in street game in London (!) and went to Eastern Europe (cause poor girls who speak bad english and never seen a foreigner before are unlikely to say no) to practice his “game” or mostly theoreticize.A constantly butthurt laighing stock.

You want a good laugh ?
Read thru the YaReally (NotReally) files.
I have yet to read a ‘field report’ that didn’t sound like a verbatim 2 1/2 Men episode or watch a PUA video that wasn’t very clearly staged.
And yes, ‘Anglo’ guy ‘gaming’ in continental or eastern Europe post-WWII is (or was) like sh00t1ng fish in a barrel.

Trust me, wolfie. After a Chinese-American midget named Jimmy read all the Game posts on this blog (and other PUA articles), he became the BIGGEST player in all of Texas. Believe me, belieeeeeve meeeee. White and hispanic girls were throwing themselves at this one-legged slope.
(sarcasm)
kek

[CH: game won’t normally perform miracles but it can help a man do better with women than he otherwise would, so let’s quit it with this lame and tiresome strawman.]

Caramba – rarely seen you on here.
Krauser did well in London (mostly with non British girls) he just does not find British girls attractive compared to East Europeans.
I’m a huge fan of Krauser and can vouch for him. I learned a lot from him in step by step breakdowns of seducing a woman’s hindbrain. He has written alot of very interesting and different stuff.
He is open and honest about his successes and failures. He’s out there doing it not sitting behind a computer.

I found his London Real interview a few years ago a monumental moment in my development.

I would remind you that extremism in plundering Eastern European girls is no vice. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of pussy is no virtue.

All is fair when it comes to slaying pussy. Going to Eastern Europe, reading and applying game literature, launching routines, bulking up, concocting stories, opening sets – if that is the difference between getting pussy and not, then you have my full approbation. If you have to neg to get pussy, then grab a big clip of negs and fire away. If you have to go to Eastern Europe to bang hot girls – more power to you.

With one exception – the Philippines. They are the fückin’ weirdest, dumbest, lamest, and weirdest- looking girls going. No matter how bad things get that (and the black line) is a line I shall never cross, for that puts you in Matt Forney territory and your problems are so deep-rooted and far gone that no amount of literature or approach anxiety coping strategies can hope to overcome them.

They already get beat up. Remember Jerry? He said he was beaten up by his landlord in Ukraine a couple of years back when posting as Subway Masturbator. The clubs in Kiev that the expats frequent attract gold digger type women generally. No one likes those guys. Be respectful and blend in wherever you go and you won’t have any trouble.

My thing had always been that, on the rare occasion I got a girl’s attention, my mind immediately went “WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO NOW?”, so we’d chat for a bit until it was obvious I was the proverbial dog who had finally caught the car and was unsure what to do next. And then it went to shit from there. And this was before internet was a thing so you were basically stuck with advice like “dude, just be yourself”.

What about over-sensitivity to social cues? Being too perceptive? Perhaps too emotionally intelligent?

The kind of man good at converting women he knows into women who love him, but not so good getting to know strangers. Often a strong, silent type. A lot of modern men don’t realise when people don’t like them – think why they allow open borders – and there’s a blissful ignorance to that, a confidence which the strong, silent type doesn’t have.

That leafy suburban confidence you get from having two uber-supportive parents and not growing up anywhere near a council estate. That hipster confidence.

There’s a man who isn’t effeminate, he doesn’t misunderstand women, he’s not a coward and he’s likely working class. What’s the advice for a man if anything too masculine and needs to open up a bit more?

Approach anxiety happens because in the past, approaching a woman was indeed a risky business throughout History .
In the past, her male relatives may have killed you if you talked to the wrong woman.
Our DNA remembers.
Approach anxiety is our sub-conscious telling us we are about to enter a dangerous situation, it activates the flight-or-flight reflex.
Our sub-conscious does not know that we are living in the peaceful year of 2017.
So the clever player just considers AA as a sign that he has to disregard and advance,

The University of Michigan is about to embark on a major, multi-million dollar renovation of one of its most recognizable buildings, the Michigan Union. But if minority students have their way, the historic central feature of the Michigan campus might lose some of its signature decor. At a March student government meeting, one student reportedly told administrators that, when the Union is refurbished, the lush wooden paneling, a prized feature of the building dating back to around 1910, should come down because it makes some students feel unsafe. “[M]inority students felt marginalized by quiet, imposing masculine paneling” students claimed…

It’s not because it’s masculine, instead, it’s because that type of decor is very WASPy, very heritage America, and hence, targeted to be destroyed from the collective consciousness of America.

(((They))) are truly aiming at erasing the past that created America. Architecture, literature, art, the very sense of aesthetics needs to be corrupted or destroyed, so that people cannot identify with their true historic heritage.

This is beyond fascinating to me – the Jewish Hive Mind has now decided to attack friggin INTERIOR DESIGN – these G0d-d@mned neurotic psychotic s@tanic parasites won’t be satisfied until they’ve immolated all of Western Civilization into cinders & ashes.

that’s very interesting but honestly can you deny it’s coherent? There is a clear link between architecture and design and political ideology. The left wing buildings are always so gloomy, ominous, confusing, and lacking grandeur and beauty. There was a certain delight that various left wingers took in demolishing old beautiful buildings and building new and ugly glass and steel monstrosities in the centre of old traditional areas to permanently mar it.

Just take a look at the godawful “architecture” that came out, oh, coincidentally at the end of WW2. International Style (how about that name) Brutalist (Moshe Safdie), Bauhaus (product of Lazar Lissiztky and Weimar Republick), David Azrieli, Frank Gehry (né Goldberg), well, you get my drift.

The Anabaptist is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a cracker, kultur-terrorist, rebel, regicide, heretic, nation-destroyer it all runs off him like water off a raincoat.
But call him an Anabaptist and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

I recall a scene in my earlier days, a sunny Saturday Vancouver morning upstairs at a major bookstore. Ostensibly I went in to peruse some titles, but let us be honest, I was looking for poosy. I spied a lovely young brunette wearing tight black jeans and black ankle boots sitting on a chair, reading some obscure work. Pretending to browse some books, I glanced at her and decided I wanted to approach, but couldn’t think of what to do. This ritual went on for about 15 minutes or so until I the ruthless grinding of gears in my head was too much and I ejected, without firing a shot. Later that evening, it became a classic rainy Vancouver night. I was waiting for the bus, and a pair of red high heels comes into my field of vision. They’re attached to a nice pair of legs, and a houndstooth raincoat. A lovely young blonde. She asks about the bus, I say I’m not from around here. We get the bus and get to talking. 10 minutes later We part ways and I have nothing to shew for it. Today I would’ve pushed for a drink right away or at least gotten a number. But back then, I GAF. Now I don’t.

How many long business trips have I taken in my 20s and 30s where I find myself wandering the downtown thoroughfares, shopping malls, haunting cafés and pubs of cities both forreign and domestick, looking to make approaches, and failing to make a single one. I’ve sat on publick transit ogling over a girl once or for weeks at a time, wondering if I’ll see her tonight (on a downtown train).

I ascribe it to the following:

1. A biologically-hard wired predisposition to psychologically invest heavily in these encounters and view them as, adduced earlier, life or death situations. I would just argue to the contrary, we don’t get relieved (no kids) when we don’t approach but rather, an approach is like going into warfare. Being successful in warfare and mating is primordial to survival. For your enemies, you must evince a show of strength and then vanquish them; for your mate, you must demonstrate your sexual and otherwise worthiness, and then seduce them. Failure to rise to the occasion on either plane can result in death and reproductive failure (a type of death). So when one descries that saucy brunette presenting at the other table in the pub, one is naturally seized of thoughts of reproductive failure, viz, if you fück this up, you won’t reproduce and your bloodlines with wither away.
2. The inborn and socialized effects of being a White Anglo Saxon man (or a White European-Other man in a post Anglo-Saxon society) and the sense of self-restraint, thoughts of negative repercussions, tendency to be reserved, to avoid speaking with strangers, and following other associated social mores which make forays such as approaching out of the blue an uncommon and uncomfortable experience for many concerned. (Conceding the point that girlz feel incredible tingles if an approach be done with fun and with flair, by a fellow giving off the right vibes).
3. Perhaps an amalgam of the preceding two, but for most men, a tendency to be more on the introverted side than not. (I contend that natural extroverts are quite rare and certainly don’t occupy half of this spectrum). Most of your friends and colleagues hate publick speaking and don’t interact (much) with strangers, that is indubitable.

Getting older, more confident, particularly the confidence that accrues to an experienced man of his mid 30s in the company of girlz in their 20z, and, yes, learning some basic applied principles of social dynamics and charisma, aka game, can help with the approaches. Clearly not giving a fück has tangible benefits, and any man who wants to improve the quantity and quality of poosy he’s getting in life ought to browse up on some game concepts, which are just old truths dressed up in new clothes.

Also, turning to a bit of drink has been known to clear the decks for making the approaches you wouldn’t normally make. So you have that as a backup.

andrew anglin with a funny, salient rant about why we need white Sharia and why we need it NOW!:

“A woman is hardwired to breed with whoever she perceives as dominant in the society, as she wishes to give birth to dominant children. That is SIMPLE, MAINSTREAM, ACCEPTED EVOLUTIONARY BIOLOGY – NOT TO MENTION PAINFULLY FUCKING OBVIOUS.

In a natural society, all women wanted to fuck the dominant warlord tribal chief.

Because that would produce for them dominant, warlord children, who would protect them, feed them, house them and clothe them when they were too old and unattractive to have a male protect them for sexual reasons.

This is the BIOLOGICAL INSTINCT of women to produce the most DOMINANT male offspring – that instinct does NOT RECOGNIZE RACE.

And we now have a society that has elevated the brown man to the status of DOMINANT MALE.

GE, if what your saying is true, then all the propaganda out there pushing miscegenation (and there’s a lot, because it’s everywhere) isn’t a problem because it’s basically having no effect.

and counter-propaganda, such as this article, which attempt to make small push in the opposite direction, is unnecessary and even counterproductive, because it exaggerates the severity of the problem, if it even is a problem, which, according to you, is debatable.

wolfie you as usual snarky cocksucker, when your reading comprehension improves, THEN and only then can you deign to comment. Let me reiterate for you:

And I see quite a few events (casinos, college mixers, etc.)

This is the second time you made me call you stupid in the same thread.

(((shakin’ mah haid)))

GE, if what your saying is true, then all the propaganda out there pushing miscegenation (and there’s a lot, because it’s everywhere) isn’t a problem because it’s basically having no effect.

Each newer generation gets more and more impressionable, so even though the effect is not as great thus far as the (((MSM))) and some of the wolife cuckmeisters that pollute the chateau would have us believe, it’s nevertheless still not something to countenance.

But neither should supposed allies keep giving the hyperbole the legs, as if they were agents of the Synathedral.

We’ve been over this issue of agitprop before… it isn’t rocket surgery.

Then you’re not in a large city and haven’t been traveling. I thought that shit was just hollywood feels propaganda until I got a job where I have to bounce around the country. New York, Los Angeles, Chicago…I’m having a hard time finding attractive white women that *aren’t* with a black/brown/yellow. You can see them walking down every major street. The j3ws, strangely enough, seem to be targetting the chinese girls 90% of the time nowadays. Trying to breed a super-race of whining cheaters i guess.

I’m not trying to black pill you, but hiding from the reality isn’t going to help us clean up the garbage faster. We need more dominant, arrogant white shitlords, and we need them 10 weeks ago.

For fuck’s sake, I’m not saying White guys shouldn’t improve on their dominance…

… I’m saying that this whole muh dik thing is not as widespread as the (((MSM))) (and apparently a lot of alleged allies here at the chateau, many of whom never miss an opportunity to act like cucksters in spreading the agitprop) would have us believe.

And I spend quite a bit of time in NYC myself, so don’t give me that whole metro area thing… granted the big cities are going to see a greater percentage of it, being filled with professional dindus… DUH!!!

But that’s not the nation as a whole… and for the record, I live right outside of a tri-city area with a population well over two million, and just a stone’s throw from major metros like NYC, Philly, and Trenton.

So don’t give me this “get out more” flaccid attempt of bolstering your own weak positions.

I’ve been reading your blog for a couple of years now. I’ve been the quintessentia beta for most of my life. Quiet, extremely weak frame, narrow shoulders, unsociable, spiteful, big time fapper and porn user (mostly soft porn thoug) and grew up in a conservative environment.
After I read Neil Strauss’s book some 8 years ago I had a kind of epiphany and did some cold approaches here and there but didn’t get anything out of it. I just didn’t know how things worked. I sometimes got serious eye contact from grils (I guess particularly for being well dressed) but didn’t know what to talk to girls about. Not just girls but to men too. I’ve never had a real social life and it’s not easy for someone who’s been in vaccuum all the time to get used to oxygen. On top of that I have a few heatlth problems that make me feel like shit most of the time. They say a faint heart doesn’t want the hand of a woman and I can attest to that. Surprisingly my facade can fool women sometimes into giving IOIs even though I feel like shit.

About two years ago after quitting an antidepressant (which was destroying my libido) I got back to reading game and manosphere blogs and books again. In these two years I’ve done some 100 approaches (I know it’s not that many) got some numbers but not even a single date. Couldn’t even work out the yes girls. For example a very neat blonde barista once started asking me questions once I asked her why the cafe was closed a few days ago. Talked some more when she brought my order but I wasn’t prepared to go for the number as she paused to go back to work. Never saw her at the cafe again. As another example I once opened a slender redhead at a local festival using a little photography game. She asked me just one question in a few minutes of convo so I thought she wasn’t interested. Saw her again a little later looking bored and lonely, made her jealous by hitting on another girl and yes she did look. I crossed in front of her once and thought I’d # close when I came bake but then she was nowhere to be found.

You mentioned fear of failure but to me it lookes a little different. For me it seams the goal doesn’t really exist. I just move towards the goal but don’t care if I get there or not and that’s exactly what they call a looser. And I’ve been like this in my career too. I lived in Scandinavia for a few years and the thought of all the opportunities that I passed burns my heart. As I said at the time I didn’t really know how it worked. I thought you had to get to know the girl first. Didn’t know seduction was all about leading. Now after doing extensive reading I have a much better idea and I now even lift! But now I’m living in a small town, my work takes most of my time without much oppotunity for traveling and my hair is receding and turning gray (not too bad yet though). My health issues are present as ever and my libido has decreased (am in mid 30s). I get a little action from tinder and SA but nothing from cold approach. Actually now after reading more on game and doing more approaches I feel LESS natural than bafore. Get fewer IOIs and more “looking down without eye contact” too. Seems all those no’s have alienated me even more.

[CH: in any endeavor there will be a short regression as you’re getting up to speed on the new skills you’re learning. there’s an awkwardness in the transition period from retiring beta to assertive alpha, so i wouldn’t fret too much about feeling weird (less natural) as you do more approaches. that’s natural, in itself. just know that the dam will burst, and the number closes and dates will seem to roll in all at once. it sounds to me like you’re suffering from low energy and insufficient understanding of all facets of game. you open girls, but then stall out. this to me says you haven’t focused on the part of game that helps you pivot from opener to nonsexual banter then to sexual banter. and get a lipid profile done to see what your testosterone level is at.]

Be careful to be friendly about dread, or it will look like you’re mad at her or don’t like her. Just going by how I’d take it- I’d probably think you were being competitive and mean, but looking back, I can see how those instances in my own life were actually due more to approach anxiety. I think the idea is to be friendly to many people and keep her guessing.

You sound like your doing alright. What i’ve read from you sounds similar to what other pua’s have gone through. Keep your head up, keep going out, keep approaching, and keep studying pickup and understand the material. Look at other pua’s and how they do their business. Develop your own routines. Study YaReally’s archive – http://yareallyarchive.com.

Also, and this is really important, after your approaches and sets, actually sit down and spend 30 minutes to an hour (1) writing down your experience, (2) reviewing what you did right, (3) reviewing what you did wrong, and (4) figuring what you need to do better next time.

Getting that lipid profile is probably the best advice. If you’re test is low you’re wasting your time reading stuff that you don’t seem that motivated to do. It’s great that you’ve done 100 approaches (probably more than most guys will do in their prime years) but if you really want to get better you need more like 100 approaches a month until you feel better about it. Reading too much game material brings diminishing returns and there’s plenty of contradictory advice out there because what works for one guy won’t for another. Get your health sorted out as much as possible first.