Hi everyone none of you will know me because i basically signed up to this forum just to be included in this debate cos i reckon its well interesting. Most of you obviously seem to be from america so maybe my contirbution has less relevance as i come from england and the drugs culture i think is quite different nonetheless it might be interesting. I live in the south of england in a very remote tightnit culture of drug takin, we have all been smokin weed for aobut 3 years or so and i dont think i have not had at least one spliff for less than a week during that time, on average its prolly every other day. A couple of years ago we all started taking lots of other drugs aswell cos thats what the people older than us were doing at it seemed fun. Consequently i have taken a few different drugs, not loads, but quite a few and actually i reckon that the constant use of cannabis has been the far most damaging thing to me. I think when the government are campainging against drugs in america and enlgand they could actually give a good argument if they weren't such a bunch of idiots, cannabis changes the chemistry of your head, it doest make you stupid it makes u slower because it raises the level of morpine in your brain as a chemical reaction, someone suffering from psychosis has this exact same reaction going on in their brain, when i used to first use it it was brilliant like we used just get hi and it was cool but now it really starts to mess with my head like i think its messed up my self confidence im often depressed i get paranoid and everything is just different. Now at this point its important to mention that the only weed we get is skunk and its strong stuff, (an interesting fact that you might not know is that nearly all of the cannabis sold in amsterdam is grown in england). And the annoying thing is everyone who i know has got exactly the same problems but only a few people in the community are atually brave enuf to jus try and give it up and say this is crap, its stupid and it messes up ure head, the culture of weed is twisted since it started in the 60's and is completely built on ingorance. Im still gonna take e cos i go to raves alot and its fun and maybe sesh the trips every once in a while but i think im gonna stop smoking foreva, this may seem strange to alot of you but i think that people should stop and take a step back and look at all the misconceptions that society is giving about drugs like weed, anyone whos scared of drugs because of death is foolish u shuld be scared of drugs because they just change your head period. And this is coming from someone living in a country near to legalising cannabis, they no exactly the spychosis it can induce, the reason its gonna be eventually legalised cos they will get so much money fomr taxing it like they get fomr tobacco, its ridiculous.

Sorry that was a bit of a rant and some of it may not have made sense or been inaccurate but basically i think that people should not be so quick to put weed in a different seriousness to all the other drugs that are described as "hard drugs". Oh yea and if you actually use Salvia Divinorium in a decent amountand of a decent strength then i can assure that you will trrrrrrrip like nothing u can possibly imagine theres no reason why it shuld be legal in comparioson to lsd or magic mushrooms it jsut dont last as long, Drugs are bad but i do em cos thats the culture i got and im happy wit it, but i wuldnt advise doin em to neone, isn't that stupid? Neways i am interested in whateva someone has to say agianst all the stuff i jus sed and neone that agrees cos im sure my argument needs alot of refining, cheers

Eddy.

p.s I am totally not a hard core or iresponsible druggy or nething i have always looked into everything and spoken to alot of knowledgeable people about drugs beofer i tried em oh and i dont do addictive drugs, that i can generally afford hehe. peace.

Okay kiddies, Uncle Learner will tell you all about drugs. I used to drive 2 hrs to raves to pick up various substances to sell. For profit, no no young ones, to allow me to continue to use these same drugs. I have eaten 25 hits of LSD and snorted an 8ball of coke in a 5 minute period. Both were good.

I did a stupid study on myself. I spent 2 months on LSD non stop. I woke up and poped 2 tabs, 2 hrs later 2 more, and on I went. Now this made dealing a bit tough because money was hard to count while it is moving around in your hand. I smoked weed like it was a cigaret. It was just something to do. We didn't even consider it a drug really.

I used, coke, weed, LSD, crack, glass(we will get to that), crystal, Micro Dots, E, and some shit I never found out what it was. Here is the deal. Hit the rave with a pocket full of cash. Score anything and everything. You have to be smart though. By a small quantity first. Test the product. It's good? Go back before you are stupid high and buy him out. Now leave before the damn rave gets busted and before you can't drive.

Get home, no time for sleep call buddies(customers) set up sales, make sales you can now. Okay now it is noon and you have yet to sleep. Your mind is mush, but your body is in full on party mode. Mind just needs a kick. Snort Glass or crystal.

Glass - The most evil drug I have ever seen/used in my life. One line will keep you good for 3 days. I think it was realy ICE, but the dealers we got it from called it glass. Shards that cut you as you snort them. I am talking bad shit.

So I live this way for 3 years. Everyday was a party. One buz to the next. I seriously do not recognise faces from highschool because, well the last 2 years thier faces were distored by mind altering drugs in my head.

Holy shit, how did you turn out?

I was booted out of my families house. I moved in with this chick who's parents let me do whatever because they got free shit. I droped out of highschool. I worked at a resturant and was excited when I moved up to assitant cook(dealt to the staff too).

My father came to me one day and offered one of 2 things. 1.) An ass whiping. or 2.) Move back in and go to collage or join the millitary. My first whole sober month I was kinda confused. I did not know how to interact with anyone. I truely felt burnt. Month 2 was worse. Month 3 was a bit better and I had my GED and was talking to an ARMY recruiter. 9 months later I was in basic training. I tested almost perfect on the ASVAB test and had my pick of anyjob. I chose a communications feild.

I spent 4 drunk years in there. Got married landed a job at verizon for more than I ever thought I would make. I am now sharper than ever.

What I found out latter is you can actually learn things in a state of mind. In other words you can learn how to shoot pool awsome while drunk or coked out and suck at it sober. And the same is true of the opposite.

Drugs are bad. They cause your body to do things it normally would not do. Over time this will cause long term effects. You can however recover as my life is proof. I do not think I was ever addicted to anything accept these damn cigarets. These will be the death of me. That is just sad. Not crack, coke, crystal, glass, PCP... Nope cigarets...

so another guy who used the military instead of rehab. seems we ha alot in common sin.

i also used to stay screwed up for days at a time. one time when i was night shift manager at a restaurant (the hours were 12:00 am to 8:00am) i went to work on an 1/8th of shrooms and had to work the grill. i didn't eat meat for a long time after that.

but seriously when i read your post i saw alot of myself in it except that glass thing, i did a lot of meth. as a matter of fact one guy that i used to do meth with got convicted of murdering and raping a 13 year old boy after being awake and strung out for a week straight. yes this is the extreme but when it comes to meth not that extreme. And that i just reenlisted a year ago, and i'm in the Navy not the Army. i don't usually let people know that on these types of boards but what the hell. i believe that the people here don't care about that.

but as for all other drugs all doing them ever did for me was make me want more. when i enlisted all i had was a garbage bag full of clothes and a coke habit, now i have a paycheck 2 new cars (03 accord, '03 civic) 2 kids a wife and i am buying a house so yes you can be turned around, but for god sake don't think the military is the only way to do it because the only one who can do it is you. as a matter of fact 2 weeks ago my whole ship (i am on a carrier) had to go to an open court marshall where 15 junior sailors were all kicked out for failing a piss test. so no matter where you are you have to make the decision to kick.

and yes i was able to kick everything but cigs....Kool in the box here.

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/me nods at Damn_Noob. A lot in common indeed. A buddy of mine was involved in making pipe bombs. He sold them to this guy in D.C. There was some argument over price and threats of who was going to kill who. Well one methed out night, my buddy took a .22 and shot this guy in the head 3 times. My buddy is doing life for it. It is kinda crazy realy. I mean I have old freinds that never cleaned up and they are realy sad. There is only 3 out of my click that made it. The rest are dead, in jail, missing, or living in thier parents basement scraping money to get the next bag. Now late teen early early 20's okay, We are going on 30...

for real, I was being sarcastic if that wasn't obvious. But if it's not directed at my personal continuation of what I deam to be amusing, and not just let the anal over critical posts take over. Then bro it's just a post, I like seeing almost 10 pages of replies, it shows what an amassment of people really like. When you notice that, you notice more things.

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