I thought training in heavy shoes (make your legs strong) was the bomb, then race in lighter shoes (fly)

I've heard that said but when I lightened up on trainers I found it to be more urban legend than anything. Running hills may make your legs strong...adding a few oz to the shoes not so much. In fact wearing flats for workouts seemed to be even better (ie helped me get faster). If I want to tire the legs more I'll just go a bit faster.

A similar argument would be training at a higher weight and dropping down only as racing season approaches. Problem is, more weight prevents one from training like they would race.

"If you want to be a bad a$s, then do what a bad a$s does. There's your pep talk for today. Go Run." -- Slo_Hand

Yes, that is true,however, this may be a mute point for me after my lunch time 6 mile run. I just ran it in my brand new pair of Wave Precisions (the ones with the cute flowers on them). I may be in love. Also at times felt like a gazelle. Why was I not informed earlier that lighter trainers are awesome? That is all.

"I would rather have high expectations and fail then have low expectations and succeed." DB

I've heard that said but when I lightened up on trainers I found it to be more urban legend than anything. Running hills may make your legs strong...adding a few oz to the shoes not so much. In fact wearing flats for workouts seemed to be even better (ie helped me get faster). If I want to tire the legs more I'll just go a bit faster.

A similar argument would be training at a higher weight and dropping down only as racing season approaches. Problem is, more weight prevents one from training like they would race.

Yes, that is true,however, this may be a mute point for me after my lunch time 6 mile run. I just ran it in my brand new pair of Wave Precisions (the ones with the cute flowers on them). I may be in love. Also at times felt like a gazelle. Why was I not informed earlier that lighter trainers are awesome? That is all.

Cool. I am glad you like them and hope you find that these lighter, less-posted trainers work for you. It may be that you need to ease into less shoe, before you switch to running solely in neutral trainers. Maybe not at all. I'd just be aware of the possibility.

Cool. I am glad you like them and hope you find that these lighter, less-posted trainers work for you. It may be that you need to ease into less shoe, before you switch to running solely in neutral trainers. Maybe not at all. I'd just be aware of the possibility.

Thank you for the advice kind sir. I will keep that in mind whilst gazelling.

"I would rather have high expectations and fail then have low expectations and succeed." DB

I ran first two marathons in Wave Rider 13s. Now, after running a lot in Kinvaras they feel too heavy. Also running a lot now in Adidas Bostons, basically rotating the Bostons and Kinvaras. Too much running in the Kinvaras caused a little posterior tib tendinitis. Bostons were an adjustment. Only shoe that felt like it needed a break-in period. Or I just needed to get used to the very different feel. But now I love them. Light, some cushioning but a nice firm ride.

For my May marathon I want something lighter than the Bostons but more structured than the Kinvara. And not soft/squishy like the Kinvara. I think it will come down to either the Adidas Adios or Mizuno Wave Precisions.