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Paulus

Well said Judith Collins – parents must take some responsibility for their children. Listen to the whole answer she gave at the Police conference not the bits the so called media want you to know.
Jacinta – give it up – when you are older and perhaps have children you will have a better understanding of what Judith says.
Not the usual left wing socialist rhetoric.
Whilst not PC what Judith says is right – Parents matter.

artemisia

kowtow

Fail. What a pity . Left wing Radio Red invested a lot of air time promoting this latest attempt at attacking private property rights and curtailing civil liberties, all in the name of the so called obesity epidemic , when all it would take is a modicum of self discipline.
Not to worry , plenty more of that Nanny out there to promote.

Inandout

One more contradiction. The public library refit was apparently overseen by the same company that was involved in the council building. To carry his concerns to a logical conclusion he should also shun the library as well.

Captain Mainwaring

mandk

From Stuff:
Variety CEO Lorraine Taylor said: “We’ve heard of families who share one towel. . . or children who don’t have their own blankets.”

I can understand how some families might find it difficult to afford towels and blankets, but it’s difficult to see how a situation like the above could arise, when all a parent would need to do would be to get down to the nearest Salvation Army family centre to get what they need without charge.

Flash

It’s quite likely that families who share one towel have simply never thought about the desirability for more than one. Or, they don’t see the need.
One wonders what their concept of hygiene is.
Education might be the answer.
Blankets. I decided to stay over night at a camping ground with friends, but I hadn’t brought any bedding. I went to the local Warehouse and bought a couple of faux plush throws for $6 each, and found them much warmer than wool and they wash like rags. (in a pinch you can use them as towels too.)

Obviously towels and blankets are not on their list of priorities, so not a matter for concern. It would be better for the do-gooders to do a bit of consciousness-raising and tell these people about personal cleanliness & where to source stuff cheaply.

G152

calendar girl

Police have to be allocated disproportionately to “road policing” because of perverse revenue / funding effects of that part of their job.

Despite the ‘no tolerance’-type of traffic policing over the last couple of years, the road toll is increasing again, markedly. Even those of us who are great admirers of our NZ Police have to despair at some political management of the portfolio (prior to Paula Bennett) and the top-level strategy-setting of Police management.

As you call for, waikatogirl, we need more police on the streets of our towns and cities.

peterwn

Domestic violence and checking bail are important policing functions. If anything domestic violence should take precedence over burglaries. Also overseeing alleged offenders on bail is far more economic than having them in jail. I do not know if Corrections is involved in bail monitoring – if not they should be as far as practicable to allow police to get on with other things.

GoVege

waikatogirl

Isn’t the police being called out to numerous domestics everyday part of the problem. If the police are busy breaking up drunken disputes they can’t be out looking for criminals or preventing crime while on their beat.

Police must attend the call but perhaps recidivist drunks who are handy with their fists should receive a hefty fine for wasting everyone’s time. At least they’d have a few less $ to waste on booze.

stephieboy

” New settler family of 17 heading for Palmerston North after fleeing war-torn Syria ”

“The call came last January when Tammam Tamim was at home with his family.

“Congratulations, you are going to be resettled in New Zealand,” said a worker of the United Nations refugee agency UNHCR.

Tamim arrived in Bangkok two years ago after fleeing the war in Syria. Since then he and his 17 relatives were virtual prisoners in a 65sq m apartment, too terrified to go outside for food or medical treatment. The family remained hidden on expired visas, hoping for resettlement.

“When I knew I would be a New Zealand citizen, and not a refugee, I felt for the first time in my life a human being. Upon receiving the news, I cried. We all cried,” says Tamim, 38….”

Scott

The richness of diversity comes to Sydney Australia. Coming soon to a town near you:
“Police in Sydney, Australia, broke into the home of Iranian couple Amir Darbanou and his wife Nasrin Abek on the morning of Thursday 29 September after Nasrin’s father became concerned for her safety. On entering the apartment in the affluent Sydney suburb of Potts Point they found that Nasrin had been murdered during the night. Darbanou, 42, was allegedly enraged that his wife had converted to Christianity and killed the 35-year-old hairdresser in a frenzied knife attack.

Darbanou is said to have stalked his wife previous to the night of the fatal assault, seemingly suspicious of her activities. In the small hours of the night, neighbours heard screams but then there was silence. According to reports, it was after this that Darbanou called Nasrin’s father in Iran to tell him that she was dead.

Nasrin’s father made several anguished phone calls to Sydney police, eventually persuading them to investigate. At 6.20am on Thursday morning, the police forced entry into the building and discovered Nasrin’s body. Darbanou was arrested and appeared before Sydney’s Central Local Court on Friday 30 September. He did not enter a plea or apply for bail and was remanded into police custody.

Police said that there was no known history of domestic violence between the couple, who had been living in Australia for four years on temporary bridging visas.”

Scott

Stephieboy – you’re completely right in that domestic violence is not limited to the Muslim community.

However you are completely wrong and unbelievably dense to say that this is just a case of domestic violence. There was no violence in the marriage until the wife became a Christian. The husband then became enraged and killed her because she became a Christian. This is accepted behaviour in a Muslim family and the head of the house, the husband, is duty-bound to kill any member of his family who becomes a Christian, who becomes an apostate, and this is perfectly acceptable in Islam and indeed honourable and the right thing to do according to the Prophet Mohammed.

GoVege

I doubt if this was the first instance of domestic violence in this family.
Women of other ethnicities rarely report DV.
They know they will be punished in even more hurtful ways if they do.
I personally know an extremely violent man who threatened to leave his wife, unless his step-daughter (who was terrified of him) returned home.

Rich Prick

stephieboy

Rich Prick and Scott death to apostates is c;early mandated in the Bible in both Old and New Testaments ,

“It is often believed that the Bible gives absolute religious freedom to everyone. Most of the Christians in the United States and the the West think that the freedom of choice and speech that they have comes originally from the Bible. Let’s just see how accurate this myth really is. ”

Deuteronomy 13:6-9

Deuteronomy 17:3-5

2 Chronicles 15:13

Matthew 15:1-9

(Matthew 23:1-3)”

Romans 1:20-32

Clearly, the above sampling of old and New Testament verses demonstrate that death to apostates is sanctioned . A sanction that the Quran drew from ,

Rich Prick

You’ve copped quite a spanking your satanic death cult love-in already, so I shall leave that alone, except to say there aren’t too many Christians dying in their homes for the sin of switching sky fairies.

Lance

@stephieboy
What most Christians get is John 18:36 and Matt 26:52
God is all powerful. So Christians don’t have to fight, kill or maim in his name. If they do then they have missed the entire point.
What sort of God needs defending? Surely that’s up to God

Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Manolo

You seem to forget stephieboy is an unabashed apologist of Islam, a Muslim who will never find fault with his violent religion, and who will attempt to justify barbaric acts because Christians did the same five centuries ago.

Rich Prick

What’s wrong with Bangkok? There are no current Thai wars to run from. It must have been the sight of ladyboys that caused them to flee. Just wait untill they cop an eyefull of Palmerston North’s hookers.

kowtow

It’s beyond me how the left , who are constantly screaming about poverty , lack of resources etc are quite happy to put an even bigger strain on and waste even more scarce resources on these Middle Eastern types.

RF

Another Herald misfit that thinks being a Journalist he has the right to call our PM gutless and tell him that he has to attend the Waitangi Treaty Celebrations.Who is Andrew Dickens and what gives him the right to tell John Key that he must associate with thugs and bully’s to listen to people slag off and abuse the NZ government without the right of reply.

itstricky

Who is Andrew Dickens

A voter, presumably, who has an opinion. A being a voter entitles him to that opinion. I mean, god forbid you actually having any opinions. You do have opinions, don’t you? Oh yes, you do – thugs and bullies – that’s an opinion.

wow must have hit a sore point,if Maori want respect it has to go two ways and if they not thugs and bully’s what were they last year.I have been a friend of Hone Sadler for nearly fifty years but believe just because they are activists does not give them the right to abuse a NZ PrimeMinister

Jack5

The Leftist, itstricky, at 9.23 posted of Dickens, “A voter, presumably, who has an opinion”.

Dickens is a radio announcer, who seems to have moved from pop music to running a talk show slot previously filled by Kerre Woodham. The fact that he is in the Hooerald relates to the newspaper’s ownership and that ownership’s radio interests.

Dickens is on ZB radio, owned by NZME, which also owns the Hooerald and is trying to get Commerce Commission clearance to merge with Fairfax Media. That would give them dominance of the NZ media.

Something is happening in NZME. Perhaps a decision by the Commerce Commission is imminent. This week, Murdoch’s News group sold its 15 per cent stake in NZME.

itstricky

The handful of recent comments on here about Andrew Dickens are actually positive. Good old oldpark, or wiseowl, or one of your usual Monday ranters actually heaped praise on him as the ‘new Holmes or Hoskings’ with a corresponding 18 up votes.

So, as usual, I expect this is a case of him just being the devil if he says something the crowd doesn’t like, or being the messiah if he echos the predominant line.

Point taken but most people don’t have respect for their elders or people of prominence nowadays so in my younger day being raised in Nelson we were taught to respect our older’s and not being racial that included Maori so with a son inlaw and two grandchildren that are part Maori i hope to see them gain the same respect.Now the point i am making even though i despise Andrew Little if he becomes PrimeMinister i would demand he is treated the same way, reporters should not be creating disrespect for any PM

I think Judith Collins hit the nail on the head with part of her comment……parents do not know how to raise children …..have no training except for Plunket and their parents.
But if a child has a baby to escape their home and it is second or third generation how can they possibly know how to raise a child.
I certainly didn’t but fortunately my wife came from a large and supportive childhood.

peterwn

Despite all the horrid things said about Aussie banks (who own 4 major NZ banks), they weathered the 2007 storm very well and this enormously benefited the Australian and NZ economies. They are exercising similar caution at present. It has to be remembered with banks that their shareholders have their backsides on the line, therefore this justifies that they are paid a reasonable dividend for the risk (Bill English personally would not risk taxpayers’ with bank ownership but a noisy rabble demands that he does with respect to Kiwibank).

waikatosinger

Ed Snack

Not ours, the Australian governments (except Kiwibank). There’s exactly the same house price inflation happening in Australia especially Sydney so risk for those banks in Australia as well.

The prime issue is still the tsunami of cheap money and low interest rates. This is the consequence of the policies followed by all OECD nations in response to the GFC of 2008-9; has has had some (?) positive outcomes but real negative ones as well.

It does demonstrate the application of the two simple rules of economics: Incentives matter; and Opportunity costs – there’s always opportunity costs.

Jack5

Peter, I used to sympathise with those who opposed the concept of Kiwibank, but I now think it’s worth having.

The four other main banks – ANZ, Westpac, ASB, Bank of NZ – look solid. However, apart from State-owned Kiwibank, the NZ minor banks’ credit ratings don’t indicate much leeway for any severe national financial setback. Mostly they sit just on or a little above minimum investor grade.

If we had smarter politicians we might have encouraged or negotiated for the four Aussie banks to maintain NZ subsidiaries with minor stakes in which NZ investors could buy shares on the NZ Stock Exchange. At least one of these banks previously had this arrangement.

With this, in an international financial fall, our Government might have been able to take equity stakes in the subsidiaries. These stakes could either be sold to NZ investors later, or resold to the Aussie banks. This would beat the taxpayer handouts to investors that occurred in the finance companies crash.

As it stands now, NZ sacrifices a little of its independence by relying so heavily on the Australian banking system. Kiwibank is at least an attempt to lower this dependence.

Jack5

The TSB rating is quite good, however, note that all four of these second-tier banks have ratings only from Fitch.

The main trading banks and Kiwibank are all rated in the “A’s” by the three main rating agents: Standard and Poor’s, Fitch, and Moody’s.

The explanatory piece above the item at the Reserve Bank you link to puts the approximate probability of default over five years for a Fitch BBB at one in 30. For a single A the probability is one in 150.

Captain Mainwaring

Jack5

Captain M., it’s a tough choice. On one hand, shocking family murders and schizophrenics homeless in the streets. On the other hand, many people now living happily and safely in the community when under the institution system they would have been virtually prisoners for life. I think we have over-cut institutional care though.

It looks as though NZ, and probably many other Western countries, seriously under-fund mental health care – and this would apply regardless of whether the community care or institutional approach were taken.

With the health system under pressure from rising population and activist and media attention, mental health is seen as a soft option in budgeting.

Mental health system problems draw less media attention. The media almost daily hammers hospitals and doctors in the general health system over statistically insignificant failures.

VicParking

First we locked them up in “Nut Houses”: that was wrong
Next we locked them up in DHB hospitals: that was wrong
Next we locked them up in community houses: that was wrong
Now we house them in unlocked community houses and DHB hospitals: that is wrong
So now we must ???????: and that will be wrong

Paul Henry suggested this morning that the Government should campaign next year on a proposed Sugar Tax.

Why the hell would they want to do that? The merits of a Sugar Tax are as yet unproven, and are likely to remain so for some time. So why would an incumbent government want to campaign on something like that?

Instead, let Labour and the Greens campaign in favour of a Sugar Tax, and let’s see what the public chooses.

Ed Snack

Manolo

Inandout

This is how a tax would not work-

Coke sells their drinks at say $3.00 a bottle at retail, add 10% sugar tax makes $3.30. Coke then arranges a supermarket special at $1.95 a bottle, so where is the incentive to drink less Coke? Just like with Muldoon’s price freeze on groceries, manufacturers then introduced new packaging at a new and inflated price. You simply can’t legislate for all eventualities, because human ingenuity will find a way around it.

Jack5

All_on_Red

I don’t think women are overly impressed with Hillary either.
When how she treated those women Bill was involved with is being talked about on ‘The View’ then you know it’s out there.
Don’t think Millenials who supported Bernie will be happy with the Podesta emails either. They all confirm what was suspected and exposed in the DNC emails.
Dirtiest election evah.

Manolo

Newly released emails show former Democratic Party officials offering Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign detailed advice on how to trick “self-righteous” supporters of Sen. Bernard Sanders into thinking they won concessions from the party establishment.

tom hunter

WARNING: Reading this requires knowing something about US politics, history and reading polls. Brain dead, drooling imbeciles who scream about national polls, vast stadium crowds, and “rigged” polls may as well not bother. This is not a Brexit-type one-national-shot vote.

Key points:

This map isn’t quite right — you’ve got to spot each candidate one more point for the Maine split, which 270toWin’s app won’t let you do without giving the rest of the state to the other guy. So it’s really Clinton 260 – Trump 165.

You’ll notice that Clinton clinches it by taking just one of AZ, FL, GA, MN, NC, or OH.
…
So, as I said back in April, Trump’s challenge isn’t getting to 270 — it’s getting to 200.

All_on_Red

Exactly. Unfortunately the US is going to have to endure the complete debacle Clinton will be until finally, just maybe they see sense and clean out most of their political elite- on both sides.
It’s going to be up to the Millenials to do that.
Also I think this election we have seen the MSM enter its death spiral.

Paulus

Kimbo

@ tom hunter

WARNING: Reading this requires knowing something about US politics, history and reading polls. Brain dead, drooling imbeciles who scream about national polls, vast stadium crowds, and “rigged” polls may as well not bother. This is not a Brexit-type one-national-shot vote.

Bugger that! As per our resident constitutional expert and political scientist, deadrightkev, Trump (aka he who is going to “piss in”) will, on assuming office, somehow circumvent the separation of powers, and presumably initiate a Presidential executive-order-directed Star Chamber of some sort , and “imprison” Hillary Clinton.

All_on_Red

stephieboy

Manolo, if true ( which I seriously doubt. Refer below ) it would be because of this,

“Clinton Didn’t Father Hooker’s Son”

“A claim by Bobbie Ann Williams, a Little Rock prostitute, that her son, Danny, was fathered by Bill Clinton has been proven false by DNA analysis. Star, the tabloid that first published Gennifer Flowers? claim that she had been one of Clinton?s lovers, was reported to have paid Williams “a low six-figure” sum for exclusive rights to the story. It arranged to have Danny?s DNA checked against that of the President. On January 9, the Drudge Report broke the news that Time magazine had learned that the DNA tests cleared Clinton….”

stephieboy

All on Red ,

“Accuracy in Media, a right-leaning media watch dog site, published the Drudge Report’s scoop in 1999:

A claim by Bobbie Ann Williams, a Little Rock prostitute, that her son, Danny, was fathered by Bill Clinton has been proven false by DNA analysis. Star, the tabloid that first published Gennifer Flowers’s claim that she had been one of Clinton’s lovers, was reported to have paid Williams “a low six-figure” sum for exclusive rights to the story. It arranged to have Danny’s DNA checked against that of the President. On January 9, the Drudge Report broke the news that Time magazine had learned that the DNA tests cleared Clinton.”

Why the rumour has been revived ,

“But with Clinton continuing her lead in the polls and a poor debate performance from Republican nominee Donald Trump, right-wing sites seem like they are reaching. Trump publicly praised himself after the first presidential debate for not spilling the beans on Bill Clinton’s past infidelities — now the Drudge Report has resurfaced the false story about Clinton’s illegitimate son, with even more dubious sources.”

Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Trump is incredible, the fact that he has made it this far with the entire ((( US media))), Dem and Republican Establishment, (((Wall Street))) against him and rigging the election.

The main thing that has come out of this US Presidential campaign is that white working class America now sees just how much the (((Globalist Elite))) hates them and wants them ethnically cleansed by repopulation of the US with Third Worlders.

tom hunter

Trump certainly is incredible; he’s managed to blow up an election even worse than I expected him to.

I wonder what the bellowing geniuses who promoted him will think when they not only have a President Hillary, but a Democrat Senate and perhaps even the House – plus a Democrat Supreme Court? Will reality finally bite? Will they realise what they’ve done to themselves?

Nah – like their hero, they never lose, even when they lose huge. It will always be somebody else’s fault: rigged polls, rigged elections, whah, whah, whah.

Fucking flopsweat loser talk from life’s losers. But I don’t think even that talk will wipe away the stain of knowing that he lost to the worst Democrat candidate in living memory.

Don the Kiwi

tom hunter

Don – this was always going to happen with Trump. Always. It was written in stone. He’d talked and written about his success with Te Ladies, almost endlessly since I first heard him bragging and boasting in late 80’s USA. Crowing about his cheating wih married woman and all the rest.

The key difference here was hearing his voice. But they’ll be plenty more where that came from.

And I can blame his opponents in the GOP primary as well, all eyeing eachother as the “real” threat, while they let this clown escape through the middle.

But ultimately it’s the voters: they live in reality TV and they got a reality TV Presidential candidate. It’s amazing, yet not surprising, how different a tune is being sung to that of the All Powerful, Unstoppable, Trump I was hearing about two months ago. How he’d “smash” Hillary everywhere and anywhere.

Morons. Utter, fucking morons. Welcome to what it feels like to be NZ and UK Labour 2016.

All_on_Red

UrbanNeocolonialist

Fucks sake, enough with the tinfoil hat (((zionist))) conspiracy shit. Yes the rich and powerful tend to vote for and support campaigns that go along with their preferences and beliefs. But so does everyone else too, it is not some grand conspiracy.

“At the risk of employing an overused quote, the 20th Century’s most notorious propagandist, Joseph Goebbels, famously said, “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie.” There are innumerable modern examples of the efficacy of this strategy, repeating a lie, but few are as obvious as the push for voter ID laws as a means of thwarting alleged “voter fraud.”

Following the historically disastrous 2000 election debacle, when the laser-like focus should’ve been all about reforming elections by standardizing the voting process and guaranteeing equal and convenient access to polling places, the GOP, instead, set about attacking a separate and distinct problem; a problem which the party conjured out of thin air, to expressly disenfranchise Democratic voters. It wasn’t about irregularities with voting machines, “hanging chads” or butterfly ballots, they said; it was all about individual voters scamming the system. That was the myth they concocted to cover up the obvious trespass against voting rights. The lie is called “voter fraud….”

Ed Snack

Yes but using Salon as a source is the same as repeating the Democrat and Clinton machine spin line.

The major reason that not a lot of vote fraud is “known” is that investigating it is actively discouraged and labelled racist. There have been widely acknowledged if not definitively proven cases; JFK’s victory over Nixon in 1960 being a case in point. The election hinged on the result in Illinois and it is I suggest broadly acknowledged that the result went Kennedy’s way due to mainly union organized voter fraud.

That is a fairly serious case, a long time ago agreed, but no signs that the risks have reduced. I would have thought that a relatively fraud-proof (and demonstrably so) system is necessary for a Democracy to thrive. The US system is very open to abuse and suspicions will continue to rise until proper investigations are permitted. The law is that only US Citizens can vote, so why is it illegal to ask if a voter is a citizen ?

Of course as it is in the Democrats interest to enable non-citizens to vote (including dead and other non-existing persons) they will fight by any means possible to prevent proper investigations because of why such would reveal.

sooty

Ross12

The reality is the rest of the world is laughing at the USA either directly ( A Russian Minister is reported as saying there “too many pussies on both sides in the USA election”) or by just getting on with building their own countries with developments which will make the USA with it’s broken down infrastructure look second rate.

Look at what China is doing ( note I say doing, not just talking about it)

Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

It is dawning on US Progressives/ (((Global Elitists))) that Trump is only the beginning of the push back by white working class Americans:

(((New York Times)))

Article by Roger (((Cohen))):

“Trump likes to bloviate about China and unfair trade deals, but you can take China out of the equation and the American jobs lost to cheap labor in Asia are not coming back. Robots are doing those jobs, artificial intelligence is replacing them, and technology is advancing at an unprecedented pace in ways that make human beings redundant.

People know this. They feel the tectonic plates shifting, not only of America’s place in the world after two wars without victory, but also of production, employment, their livelihoods. Precariousness is the new normal. Everything is visible, including the immense wealth of the rich. ”

All_on_Red

Jazz didn’t say that’s what the US govt did and he is not responsible for what others say. (See Jazz? Check out no 1 on my list below)
Found that evidence Bill did a DNA test yet?
If its true then given Bill is so famous it must be easy to find,

Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

All_on_Red

Jazz
You’ll learn a few things about Stephie after awhile
1. He misrepresents and lies about what you have said
2. He’ll ask questions and demand evidence but never responds when asked himself (or see 3)
3. Often the links he uses to back up his statements don’t do that at all and often have nothing to do with what he said
4. He is blind to all reasonable argument and has zero objectivity.
5. His support for Islam and Hillary is extreme
6. He flies around this blog sqwarking like a seagull and dropping shit everywhere.
7. And, well…sorry, but he’s a bit thick too.

Ed Snack

Another fascinating reveal in the Podesta emails.

Ira Magaziner, who is Vice Chairman and CEO of the Clinton Health Access Initiative, sent an email to John Podesta and Amitabh Desai, Director of Foreign Policy at the Clinton Foundation, in which he said that “CHAI [Clinton Health Access Initiative] would like to request that President Clinton call Sheik Mohammed to thank him for offering his plane to the conference in Ethiopia and expressing regrets that President Clinton’s schedule does not permit him to attend the conference.”

He appears to be referring to Sheikh Mohammed Hussein Ali Al-‘Amoudi, a Saudi Arabian and Ethiopian billionaire businessman, whose net worth was estimated at Forbes at $8.3 billion as of 2016.

He is also a prominent donor of the Clinton Health Access Initiative.

To this the response by Desai is a very simple one: “Unless Sheikh Mo has sent us a $6 million check, this sounds crazy to do.”

At this point, Bill Clinton’s former chief advisor and current president of the infamous Teneo Holding Doug Band, chimes in that it probably is a good idea: “If he doesn’t do it Chai will say he didn’t give the money bc of wjc.”

Finally, John Podesta chimes in: “I agree with Doug and this seems rather easy and harmless and not a big time sink.”

Pay to Play ! Of course this is normal, nothing to see here, move along please. Oh look, John Podesta accuses Russian Intelligence of hacking his emails, and the FBI is investigating. Apparently they have absolute proof that Putin ordered it but as he didn’t mean to and there was no intent to commit harm (the emails are innocent banter after all), no charges will follow…

stephieboy

Ed Snack ,

The Podesta emails are bogus ,

THE SCOOP
DEAR DONALD TRUMP AND VLADIMIR PUTIN, I AM NOT SIDNEY BLUMENTHAL
BY KURT EICHENWALD ON 10/10/16 AT 7:45 PM

Updated | I am Sidney Blumenthal. At least, that is what Vladimir Putin—and, somehow, Donald Trump—seem to believe. And that should raise concerns not only about Moscow’s attempts to manipulate this election but also about how Trump came to push Russian disinformation to American voters.

An email from Blumenthal—a confidant of Hillary Clinton and a man, second only to George Soros, at the center of conservative conspiracy theories—turned up in the recent document dump by WikiLeaks. At a time when American intelligence believes Russian hackers are trying to interfere with the presidential election, records have recently been fed to WikiLeaks out of multiple organizations of the Democratic Party. But now that I have been brought into the whole mess—and transformed into Blumenthal—there is even more proof that the Russians are not only orchestrating this act of cyberwar but also really, really dumb.

The latest emerged thanks to the incompetence of Sputnik—the Russian online news and radio service established by the government-controlled news agency Rossiya Segodnya—which took words written by me and attributed them to Blumenthal…”

All_on_Red

Just out. Podesta had a chance to say they were fake and hasn’t…
Very telling.
In fact he has admitted he was hacked!
‘John D. Podesta, Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, said Tuesday that Russian intelligence officials intent on swaying the election to Donald J. Trump had been responsible for the illegal breach into his account.’

All_on_Red

stephieboy

All on Red , well try this Trump …sucker ,

Fake Podesta/Blumenthal email

Holy shit. I’ve got chills. A Kremlin-controlled news source comes up with something demonstrably false, and within what, hours?!?! Donald Trump repeats it. And uses it as another call to “lock her up”.

This is like something out of a Cold War spy novel. It’s hard to believe that it’s real life.

All_on_Red

Podesta being a bigot calling Hispanics ‘needy’
Oh dear, cast your peeping peepers on that.
Actually, if Russia has hacked them, then good on them for exposing how corrupt and two faced these people are.
Oh, and you posting something four times doesn’t make it right…

Edit, just read your first link. It says ‘ this is fucked up’
Hahahaha
And you call me a sucker. You’re an idiot
Heh, heh, heh… !

stephieboy

Manolo, sorry old cock ( excuse pun )but Time looked in to this and a paternity test came up with zero Zilch ,

“Using the Starr Report’s FBI analysis of Clinton’s DNA as its reference, Star paid former prostitute Bobbie Ann Williams, the source for the Globe article, and her 13-year-old son for their story and blood samples. And the result: “There was no match. Not even close,” says a Star source. (The Starr Report contains sufficient data to make a valid DNA comparison to rule out paternity.) But if the tabloid was disappointed by the results, it’s putting up a good, Brill’s Content-ready front. Says editor in chief Phil Bunton: “We investigate dozens of stories every week, and if they don’t prove to be true, we don’t run them…

The Starr Report contains sufficient data to make a valid DNA comparison to rule out paternity,” TIME magazine reported.

The DRUDGE REPORT has learned that 13-year old Danny Williams is now dealing with the news that Bill Clinton is not his father.

“Danny is holding up fine … doing quite well,” a source close to the situation in Arkansas explained on Saturday.

“For him, this was always just a search for the truth,” the source added.

In what now must be viewed as a cruel hoax by the boy’s mother — Bobbie Ann Williams even gave a paid interview to PARAMOUNT’s HARD COPY detailing her “relationship” with Bill Clinton — the story of sex for money that ended in pregnancy itself, in the end, was debunked and flunked by science. ..

So, what’s the evidence before us?

1. We have the sudden revisiting, in the final weeks of the 2016 presidential campaign, of a 1992 tabloid story claiming Bill Clinton had an illegitimate son by a prostitute — a story that all but disappeared in 1999 after it was reported that DNA testing failed to establish that Clinton was the father.

2. We have two social media accounts in Danney Williams’ name, neither more than a year old, describing him as “the son of the 42nd President of the United States — Bill Clinton.”

3. We have a plethora of head shots purporting to show a family resemblance between Clinton and Williams.

4. We have a frenetic, 11th-hour effort by partisan web sites — including Drudge Report, which in 1999 concluded that it had been “debunked and flunked by science” — to peddle the Clinton love child narrative to voters.”

Uhuh, they why was Clinton paying the William’s $700 a month in their mailbox, plus delivering Christmas gifts by way of Arkansas state troopers? It only stopped when he went into the White House.

As far as I have read, there was no real paternity test done. There was a tabloid story about it, but whether that was true or not no one knows. Quoting left-wing site Snopes is neither here not there.

Sounds like crap to me lady as you are saying Māori cannot get elected in New Plymouth because they are a minority.
Well Howie Tamati served as a councillor for 16 years winning multiple elections and oh shit yes he is a Māori.
Maybe if that sop Andrew Judd hadn’t turned the voters off Māori issues big time or some decent Māori candidates without pink hair had have stood then the outcome may have been different.

Rich Prick

kowtow

If “Maori” were the homogenous block that the media and activists claim them to be then surely if they got their act together they could be a real force to reckon with ,especially with the relatively low voter turnout in local elections, simple really.

thedavincimode

tom hunter

Just one aspect of the change with Trump supporters is that they’re no longer claiming that useless “cuckservatives” are not needed and would be left behind in the wake of the yuugge Trump tsunami, but are actually to blame for his failures.

Turns out that “Establishment Republicans” were not entirely useless then – which was entirely predictable. Like their hero, these guys will create an alternate reality where he didn’t lose.

SPC

Guiliani now openly lies for Trump/against Clinton.

“Former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani accused Clinton of failing to honour the victims of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Centre, suggesting at one point that she lied about visiting Ground Zero in the aftermath.

“Don’t tell me, if you said that, that you remember September 11, 2001. I remember September 11, 2001,” Giuliani said at the Trump campaign rally. “Yes, you helped to get benefits for the people who were injured one day. But I heard her say she was there that day. I was there that day, I don’t remember seeing Hillary Clinton there.”

While Clinton was not in New York on September 11 – she regularly mentions being in Washington that day – she flew there on September 12, in one of the few airplanes allowed to travel in the aftermath of the attacks. Pictures of Giuliani and Clinton inspecting the destruction together are widely available.”

Presumably its a conspiracy of the MSM to have preserved such evidence to deny the lies credibility.

waripori

I understand it is fairly unusual for a party in US politics to effectively win a third term. Bush senior did but he was Reagan’s VP and Reagan was enormously popular. You could not say that about Obama at the beginning of this campaign ( he did say at the Correspondents dinner that Cruz and Trump may have had something to with his rising popularity). With no VP running and with Clintons baggage the Democrats should have been toast this time. Trump really has done a great job so far.

Captain Mainwaring

So Labour is promising an extra 1000 cops on the beat.
Yes, there is a case for more cops, as there is for more efficient deployment and technology backup.
1000 sounds like a nice headline-grabbing number, but how much research went into coming up with it?
Why isn’t it 1017, or 973?
Typical Labour ‘shoot from the hip’ bullshit.

All_on_Red

Stephie
I see you omitted the below from your Snopes link about Bill Clintons supposed DNA test.

‘There were a couple of issues with the reliability of the paternity test, however. One was its origin: the tabloids. Despite running with the story, Time’s only source for the Clinton paternity results was Star magazine (indeed, The Clintons’ War on Women co-author and former Donald Trump adviser Roger Stone claims there is no evidence the test was ever conducted). The other was a 1999 piece published in Slate arguing that because it was based on the limited analysis provided in the Starr Report and not a new DNA sample, the test results were inconclusive:
The FBI performed two genetic fingerprinting tests on the president’s DNA. The Starr report, for unexplained reasons, gives data only for the less specific of the two tests.’

Interesting omission by you. A poor quality test.
Heh, heh, heh…. !
Given the poor test it’s fair to call paternity unproven so perhaps a better test should be done.

stephieboy

All on Red , just a reminder who Roger Stone is . Until August he was at the forefront as Trump’s campaign advisor and then ” dropped ” back and is now Trump’s “confidente “.

He gained notoriety by smearing Ted Cruz claiming that his father had a hand in assassinating JFK ( obviously unsubstantiated ) and that Bernie Sanders should be hung for high Treason . Stone has built up a formidable reputation for smearing and posting highly abusive sundry comments on social media directed at various MSM media presenters and journalists .,

Much more here about his voluminous shady and sleaze bag political skullduggery and thuggery !

All_on_Red

Stephie
I know who Stone is. Snopes raised the uncertainty and that’s YOUR source.So where’s the CONCLUSIVE evidence that Clinton isn’t the father, which is what you keep claiming.
That omission is just classic from you.
You are either a deliberate liar or stupid.
Which is it?

Or as Tom Hunter would say, “embrace the power of ‘and’.”
Heh, heh, heh… !

Reid

The decision to let Hillary Clinton off the hook for mishandling classified information has roiled the FBI and Department of Justice, with one person closely involved in the year-long probe telling FoxNews.com that career agents and attorneys on the case unanimously believed the Democratic presidential nominee should have been charged.

The source, who spoke to FoxNews.com on the condition of anonymity, said FBI Director James Comey’s dramatic July 5 announcement that he would not recommend to the Attorney General’s office that the former secretary of state be charged left members of the investigative team dismayed and disgusted. More than 100 FBI agents and analysts worked around the clock with six attorneys from the DOJ’s National Security Division, Counter Espionage Section, to investigate the case.

“No trial level attorney agreed, no agent working the case agreed, with the decision not to prosecute — it was a top-down decision,” said the source, whose identity and role in the case has been verified by FoxNews.com.

A high-ranking FBI official told Fox News that while it might not have been a unanimous decision, “It was unanimous that we all wanted her [Clinton’s] security clearance yanked.”

“It is safe to say the vast majority felt she should be prosecuted,” the senior FBI official told Fox News. “We were floored while listening to the FBI briefing because Comey laid it all out, and then said ‘but we are doing nothing,’ which made no sense to us.”

The FBI declined to comment directly, but instead referred Fox News to multiple public statements Comey has made in which he has thrown water on the idea that politics played a role in the agency’s decision not to recommend charges.

Let’s watch stupidboy as he furiously googles Comey’s statements and trimuphantly tables them as if they have any relevance at all. Either that or he’ll google something completely different and demand I answer a question totally unrelated to what I’ve just posted. Won’t you, stupidboy.

Inandout

An Alabama woman told of in 1982 seeing Trump run into a kindergarten, grab a 2 year old child, and then proceed to eat her limb by limb. Snopes has verified the story. The Washington Post has carried the breaking story as a front page article. This story is expected to relegate the other ancient sex encounters exposes to page three.

stephieboy

wiseowl

What is scary about the US situation is that now the wikileaks emails are showing the corruption taking place and the moves going on behind the scenes by the democrats aided by the media , we can see connections with our own system .
Kiwis are too slow and too sleepy to understand the manipulation that is taking place and the links to big players in the world that are leading us down the garden path.
Extraordinary times.

Morrissey

You might think that the United States is full of mindless, thoughtless, easily manipulated people like the no-hopers chanting “Make America Great Again!” or “Hillary For America!” In fact, there are millions of smart and independent-minded Americans.

Even though the levers of power in the U.S. are—for now, at least—in the hands of reprehensible, cowardly and criminal types, when you read about courageous young people like the following, it’s difficult to be pessimistic about the future….

Manolo

A new email obtained by POLITICO is shedding more light on the mystery of whether and how interim DNC chair Donna Brazile might have obtained the text of a proposed question from a town hall between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders in advance, and possibly shared it with the Clinton campaign.

And now CNN, which co-hosted the town hall with cable network TV One, is pointing the finger at its media partner for what appears to be a breach of the traditional secrecy surrounding the questions for such events.

Good to see a senior USA politician waking up to the potential disastrous possibilities from the deteriorating relations between DC and Moscow —which are getting worse by the day with comments from Obama, Clinton and their mates in the EU like Hollande.

VLADIMIR Putin has reportedly told officials to fly relatives living abroad back to Russia, leaving many worried about the reason for the “urgent” call.
The Daily Star reports local media as saying Mr Putin wants Russian officials and politicians to return to the “Fatherland” now.
The call extended to elderly relatives overseas and children, even if they are in the middle of the school year.

The newspaper says the edict applies to “administration staff, regional administrators, politicians of all levels and employees of public corporations” and that “anyone who fails to act will put their chances of promotion at risk.”
Russian political analyst Stanislav Belkovsky told the Star: “This is all part of the package of measures to prepare elites to some ‘big war’.”
It comes as relations with the West continue to deteriorate.

cha

RF

It’s for me to know and you to find out however I will take pity on you. Listen carefully. It’s been all over Fox and now picked up by You Tube. Just look up Clinton sigh. Apparently it’s happened more than once.

The questions and answers were loaded onto a Tele Prompter and she is there in all her glory making a great big dick of herself.

cha

Reid

watching the Presidential race between Trump and Hillary I am amazed to see how deep and “in your face” the habit of lying, denying the obvious, deceiving and otherwise misrepresenting has permeated the US political discourse.

First and foremost, there is the absolutely unabashed way the corporate Ziomedia is bashing Trump without even so much as a pretense of objectivity or truthfulness. Of course, I always new that the US propaganda machine was lying and that the media was owned by the US deep state, but at least there was this thin veneer or pseudo-objectivity, of having “both sides” heard. Now this is over. When dealing with Trump, we have Orwell’s “Two Minutes of Hate” but spread over 24/7. Not that Trump does not deserve some of it, he sure does, but compared to how real scumbags like the Clintons are treated, the lynching of Trump is, I believe, unprecedented and unique. Why does it matter? Because now the masks have been taken off, the pretenses removed, and what you see is the true face of the corporate media as it always was: hateful, hypocritical and totally corrupted. And since a truly free and independent media is central to a functioning democracy, then the total corruption of the media in the USA is also the proof that this country does not have a functioning democracy.

Manolo

Long before Hillary Clinton called millions of Americans a “basket of deplorables,” her top campaign advisers and liberal allies openly mocked Catholics, Southerners and a host of other groups, according to newly released emails that offer a stunning window into the vitriol inside the Clinton world less than a month before Election Day.

Manolo

The Washington Post on Thursday became the latest US newspaper to emphatically endorse Hillary Clinton for the White House, saying it was swayed as much by her competence as by the alarming specter of a Donald Trump presidency.