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Re: Gold Glove nominees named....

Re: Gold Glove nominees named....

Originally Posted by PuffyPig

Ryan Braun???? He's terrible out there, even for a LF.

Completely disagree. He was rough out there when he first switched to the position, but he's become a fairly good LF. He has some range, gets decent reads on the ball, takes good routes and has a solid arm. I wouldn't give him a GG, but I'd say the same for almost everyone who plays LF. The days when you could hope for Braun to do something goofy on a flare to LF are long gone.

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Re: Gold Glove nominees named....

I'm guessing Votto and Phillips are virtually sure-things, with both Stubbs and Cozart as distinct possibilities. Arroyo may make it, but he won it last year; so, no, not this year, IMO. Bruce-- notsomuch.

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Re: Gold Glove nominees named....

For what it's worth, these are most all the catching stats I see on ESPN.com

Fielding %
McCann .998
Yadi .997
Hanigan .995

Passed Balls
Posey 2
Hanigan 3
Montero 5

SB allowed
Hanigan 34
Yadi 38
Montero 44

Caught Stealing
Posey 38
tied for 6th Hanigan 32

CS %
Hanigan .485
Yadi .479
Montero .421

Catchers ERA
Hanigan 3.05
Ellis 3.33
McCan 3.35
Posey 3.52

And Ryan didn't get into the top 3?!? Like I said, totally ROBBED! Personally I think he should've been the prohibited favorite except for the fact that they'll automatically give it to Molina. But in pretty much EVERY facet of the game defensively, Hanigan was the best in the NL. BY FAR.

Re: Gold Glove nominees named....

Wouldn't be shocked if the Reds get shut out on GG award. Or maybe one winner.

Hanigan was absolutely robbed.

Phillips has a shot, but Barney could win it.

Votto could win it, but the long injury may hurt him.

Arroyo may have the best chance on the team.

I don't expect Stubbs, Cozart, or Bruce to win.

I think the real achievement here is Cozart being a finalist. Well deserved, the rookie really came up big as an all around SS this season, despite OBP problems. SS is the key defensive position on the ball field, Zack being a finalist there is terrific for him.

Re: Gold Glove nominees named....

For what it's worth, these are most all the catching stats I see on ESPN.com

Fielding %
McCann .998
Yadi .997
Hanigan .995

Passed Balls
Posey 2
Hanigan 3
Montero 5

SB allowed
Hanigan 34
Yadi 38
Montero 44

Caught Stealing
Posey 38
tied for 6th Hanigan 32

CS %
Hanigan .485
Yadi .479
Montero .421

Catchers ERA
Hanigan 3.05
Ellis 3.33
McCan 3.35
Posey 3.52

And Ryan didn't get into the top 3?!? Like I said, totally ROBBED! Personally I think he should've been the prohibited favorite except for the fact that they'll automatically give it to Molina. But in pretty much EVERY facet of the game defensively, Hanigan was the best in the NL. BY FAR.

Hanigan should have been nominated but he was not the best in the NL by far. Molina caught 1161 innings compared to Hanigans 879 innings, which is a huge part of why A. Hanigan wasn't nominated and B. why it's hard to compare the two's stats. Molina led all of catchers in baseball in defensive runs saved as well. He won another Fielding Bible Award. I don't see how the two are even comparable on defense. Molina was by far the best defensive catcher in baseball this year, if you take the amount of innings he caught into the equation.

I do question though why Ruiz was nominated and not Hanigan. Hanigan caught more innings and had more defensive runs saved than Ruiz. That is where the snub is, in my opinion.

Last edited by MikeThierry; 10-30-2012 at 03:05 PM.

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