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It's definitely an interesting game. It really needs a lot of work, but it screams of potential. I'm hopeful that Trion has a lot of MMO features already in the works, and they just weren't ready for SciFi's (I refuse to say "SyFy"...ever again) time table.

The concept of a true mmo shooter is very intriguing though, and I find it very difficult to play any other fantasy type mmo right now. I didn't even bother with the Neverwinter beta weekend (even though I paid for it, like an idiot. No more paying for betas for me).

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Well its a solid online shooter. Beats all those lobby based online shooters. Its a nice change of pace from tab target combat or really bad aim targeting and combat in most mmorpgs who attempt aim targeting.

Its a lot of fun, well made, has Trion behind it, has a good show its based off with lots of potential (both in the TV show and game).

Its not a mmorpg, and its light on the mmo (aside from qualifying as one in all major categories)

Yes its extremely light in socialization, clan/guild managment and participation, its light on main story content, which is exponetially magnified due to the fact that they dont level lock any mission or content. This means you could blow throught the entire current main storyline missions in a few days. The have an assload of side missions, achievements, rep contracts, pvp, dungeons, repeatable stationary events and dynamic roadblocks/rescue missions and arkfalls to keep you busy.

This is a game thats fun even after the main storyline because combat is fun, driving is fun, and the events are fun.

The game does need an endgame though. Soon enough they will DLC enough content to get people to level cap, there needs to be something there.

Its certainly a good one time buy if your interested in a shooter game that will evolve in content, youll get more gameplay out of this than some of the classic singleplayer and lobby based multiplayer types.

The game needs about 2-3 more maps as large as the current map, a solid endgame type mechanic, a way to compete in guilds perhaps with territory wars or seiges...and more story. Room for lots of improvements but still a really fun game if you enjoy shooter combat. and the game offers a wide variety of weapons and gameplay styles, which is good.

If your looking for the next big mmorpg with tons of socialization and limitless content or a game with tons of progression, gear to grind, and levels to grind..stay away this game is" a shooter first and a mmo second '(direct quote from the lead designer)

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Originally posted by Isturi

This is my opionion that Defiance is the best damn MMO ever!!!! I love the game. I feel that Defiance is a AAA MMO. I feel that Defiance is for me the MMO that killed WoW. I feel that It is one of the best MMOTPS ever. I feel that Trion Worlds is the best game company in the world. These are all my opinions.

I wanted to share my opinion with true game fans. Basicly I am starting a thread so ones who love to play Defience to allow them to post why they like or even love the game. TYVM

It's great to see when someone has found a game that they enjoy.

Unfortunately this isn't the game for me but I do hope that it succeeds in what they are trying to achieve with the show connection.

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Originally posted by VorthanionAs far as shooter MMOs go, I much prefer Planetside 2 over Defiance.

I have been ever so slightly thinking about giving Definace a shot but two things.

1 saying Planetside 2 is bnetter scares the crap out of me,i deleted the game within an hour it was so bad.IMO just from the videos alone,no way is DSefiance anywhere near as bad as P2.

2 The combat looks too generic,your basic machineguns and tossing a grenade gets old real quick.I have yet to see much on good customization either.All i have seen is the video on weapon modding and imo it looks shallow and not much at all,but i could be worng,feel free to tell me there is more to it.

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I couldnt disagree more. To me this is just another game. The only thing is does differently than hundreds of other MMos is the FPS part, or lack of tab targetting.

But Defiance's meta score has been on a very steady and somewhat rapid decline. It now stands at 62,It was over 80 at release.

All my friends got the game with me, all of us played it and were generally done playing it by the time the TV show even came out. Watching the show was ok, ill prolly do it again, in fact. But it does not bring any urge in me to play this game again. The game is just very redundant, linear and small minded.

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Originally posted by VorthanionAs far as shooter MMOs go, I much prefer Planetside 2 over Defiance.

I have been ever so slightly thinking about giving Definace a shot but two things.

1 saying Planetside 2 is bnetter scares the crap out of me,i deleted the game within an hour it was so bad.IMO just from the videos alone,no way is DSefiance anywhere near as bad as P2.

2 The combat looks too generic,your basic machineguns and tossing a grenade gets old real quick.I have yet to see much on good customization either.All i have seen is the video on weapon modding and imo it looks shallow and not much at all,but i could be worng,feel free to tell me there is more to it.

Defiance supports single player gaming, Planetside 2 is all about faction warfare and team based tactics/combat, plus Defiance is a MMO3PS game not a MMOFPS like Planetside, you also have 'assisted' aiming in Defiance, there isnt really much to compare between Planetside 2 and Defiance tbh, their so completely different, Defiance is more of a rpg than an out and out shooter like Planetside 2, although the 'shadow wars' bit of Defiance isnt bad, its more akin to Counterstrike in that sense, as its only 64 v 64, but thats not a bad number, and is probably the limit imposed on the game by the console clients. Which is also why the chat features are minimal to nonexistant, consoles don't tend to have keyboards so their probably hoping that voice comms will pick up the slack, though i think PC players will probably use T3 or Vent instead of the in game Voice comms, if they even notice their present.

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Originally posted by FugglierI think the OP has little to no gaming experience. Nuff said.

LMAO over 6 years of WoW so comming from a ex WoW vet and I must say I enjoy this a heck of a lot better then WoW I am never going back to WoW because of Defiance.

I beta tested CATA, SWTOR and also Sub to SWTOR for a bit. Played SWG, COX, Beta tested FR, leggo's, Played LOTR, EVE Played SB and TERA even Played Pirates for about 15 mins. None of these games stand up to Defiance in my book. Well SWG did but that is a diffrent story. If anyone here wants to except the same ol MMO games that we have then fine. What people can not see is that Defiance is a first in the MMO world and I think that players who have not been playing for a long time like me are spoiled and actualy they are limited to the theme box, trinity, mmo world that they have been playing all their mmo life.

Defience is the one of the very few MMO's that you dont have to worrie bout gear and grinding ton of pointless hours for gear. Defience is one of the first were you have one of the best talent systems to date it blows WoW's away and most other MMO's.

People cant stand a change they dont like change. Me I love it and Defience is that change.

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I'm very much on the fence. I played Rift and that game and Trion are pushing me towards buying it. The price and fear of a pure shooter are pushing me away. Don't know what to do!

To be honesst dude I did not think I would like Defiance at all since I never was into FPS games but the fact that is it a TPS makes a diffrence. It was the story line that got me hooked. If you like a MMO with a very good story line then get it. Chasing Arkfall's around is a ton of fun. Heck just riding around on your ATV or Roller or whatever is fun in itself. Running over mobs.

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I've been playing with a couple of friends and we are certainly enjoying it. But frankly I can't conceive how someone could call this the "best ever." The graphics are mediocre. The AI is below mediocre. The quests are all repeats of the same exact things. There are constant bugs. Progression (be it character or via weapons) has limited impact so nothing really inspires you to keep going. And unless you consider breaking down or putting four mods into weapons "crafting," then crafting is nonexistent as well.

I'm glad you like it. For your sake I hope others do too or you'll be playing alone in a couple of months. Because as it stands there's little to nothing to attract many people long term. I don't regret buying it, and I've only got about 10 hours clocked, but I do not see getting more out of Defiance than I do a typical single player game.