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What kind of recruit has never looked tOSU's way? It's among the handful of great football programs in the country.

On Offense we have lost several stellar recruits. DDD can vouch for this. We have lost great WR's to USC a few times and a few of the top RB as well. But where we are getting better results is in who we are getting "Outside" of Ohio now with Urban.. I love the fact he is going hard at OL. We have sucked beyond compare in that area for over 5 years.. Glad to see thsi change..

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

How many of them have arrest records or will be arrested in the next few years?

Dunn committed long ago, although I agree that it'd be a feat for Urban to keep him, given that he's the wrong kind of back for Urban's system. Diamond is high on Michigan right now, but he's 3rd on the list of OL that Michigan wants (Garnett and Banner are better). Stefon Diggs also likes Michigan, but there probably won't be a spot for him by the time he decides. One of the two WR spots filled yesterday, and the other will probably fill before xmas.

So does this mean tOSU won't have any kind of sanctions against them? Remember when everyone was certain they were going to get at least what USC did. It would be quite a kick in the jimmy for Urban if they lose scholarships and get a bowl ban.

I was WAY off on that. Most coaches have 40+ arrests under their tenure...

USC fans need to realize not to throw stones at glass houses. Considering you have a coach who moves place to place and pusses out in his Tenn. Press conference because he doesn't want to answer questions.. Al Davis in his grim reaper state was stupid to put him in as coach and you and I both know Al loves to make dumb decision (On a side. Remember most of Raider nations great teams were built with USC and tOSU players..)..

TMZ and USC players love the lime light. You've got Reggie and his Heisman being pulled, then Marc Tyler chiming in about "Getting Paid" at USC. You've got a Drug dealer in Mitch Mustain, A cop fighter in Griffen.. You can cry foul of Urban and his arrests down in Florida but lets see what happens up here...

How many NC w/ Pete and Kiffen??

Urban?? More then USC..

Oh yeah..

And spare me the USC photos of USC winning vs tOSU. That was w/ Tressel who has always sucked eggs in big games like that aside from 2002..

Look forward to seeing what Urban can do and seeing tOSU actually have a offense that scores often and does not play to hold the win or field position to win..

USC fans need to realize not to throw stones at glass houses. Considering you have a coach who moves place to place and pusses out in his Tenn. Press conference because he doesn't want to answer questions.. Al Davis in his grim reaper state was stupid to put him in as coach and you and I both know Al loves to make dumb decision (On a side. Remember most of Raider nations great teams were built with USC and tOSU players..)..

TMZ and USC players love the lime light. You've got Reggie and his Heisman being pulled, then Marc Tyler chiming in about "Getting Paid" at USC. You've got a Drug dealer in Mitch Mustain, A cop fighter in Griffen.. You can cry foul of Urban and his arrests down in Florida but lets see what happens up here...

How many NC w/ Pete and Kiffen??

Urban?? More then USC..

Oh yeah..

And spare me the USC photos of USC winning vs tOSU. That was w/ Tressel who has always sucked eggs in big games like that aside from 2002..

Look forward to seeing what Urban can do and seeing tOSU actually have a offense that scores often and does not play to hold the win or field position to win..

Just drawing the line in the sand. That's all. Making sure DDD realizes USC's shit ain't coming up roses (Oh yeah.. Sorry. Words like "Roses" may be sensitive since SC didn't even have the opportunity to play in one this year..) either...

Oh Yeah, and its official. Fickell will be calling the plays on D (I also hope he keeps Vrable.. It's always nice to have a guy like that on as a coach. His experience in the NFL alone can be appealing to start LB's to come)...

Oh Yeah, and its official. Fickell will be calling the plays on D (I also hope he keeps Vrable.. It's always nice to have a guy like that on as a coach. His experience in the NFL alone can be appealing to start LB's to come)...

Dunn is a tough one to lose, and I have to think it's against the kid's interests, seeing as how Urban's never coached a 1000-yard rusher, and a power back doesn't really fit in his scheme anyway. It also seems that Urban promised Dunn that the NCAA isn't going to touch OSU, which I guess at this point wouldn't surprise me, but does open up the possibility of Dunn rethinking things again if OSU gets hammered.

And for the record, both Pittman and Schutt both tried to commit to Michigan and were turned away (not what I would have preferred, but Hoke and co were happier with other prospects). The same is true for Burbidge, who Michigan snubbed due to academic concerns. He's awesome though and it wouldn't surprise me if he ended up at OSU too.

Dunn is a tough one to lose, and I have to think it's against the kid's interests, seeing as how Urban's never coached a 1000-yard rusher, and a power back doesn't really fit in his scheme anyway. It also seems that Urban promised Dunn that the NCAA isn't going to touch OSU, which I guess at this point wouldn't surprise me, but does open up the possibility of Dunn rethinking things again if OSU gets hammered.

And for the record, both Pittman and Schutt both tried to commit to Michigan and were turned away (not what I would have preferred, but Hoke and co were happier with other prospects). The same is true for Burbidge, who Michigan snubbed due to academic concerns. He's awesome though and it wouldn't surprise me if he ended up at OSU too.

Yep. HJoke came out with the smack early so we must oblige.. We'll see how he fares in the future when it took everything he had to actually beat the Buckeyes at home on a down year and even then it came down to the end of the game with the Buckeyes close to pulling it off..

We'll have to see how Dunn fares at Ohio St. I am interested in seeing what type of Offense Urban will run here. I think he is going to mix it up with the spread but also the 3 yards and a cloud of dust as well...

As for UM turning the other players down.. That is usually what is said when a player choses elsewhere..

As for UM turning the other players down.. That is usually what is said when a player choses elsewhere..

No, it isn't. All that stuff is well-documented. Schutt tried to commit to ND, got turned down because they had just gotten Sheldon Day, so he announced that he was going to take an official to Michigan, where he was planning to commit, and Michigan's staff said no. That was a shock to the fanbase, but a couple days later it was announced that Ondre Pipkins had committed earlier that same day, which explains that. I forget what went on with Pittman exactly, but it was similar.

I think a lot of people just don't realize that the kids with 20 offers aren't actually choosing among all those schools. A lot of those offers probably went out a year or more ago from schools that have since filled those spots. Having a "commitable" offer is a lot different from having an offer. For instance, there are over 150 kids listed as having Michigan offers on Rivals, et al., but except for perhaps 8 or 10 kids vying for the 4 or 5 remaining spots (and perhaps another 10 or so superstars, but that would depend on position), none of those guys could actually commit to Michigan at this point.

Every year BYU seems to have some type of strength and conditioning problem. Linemen are too fat. Specialists are out of shape. Pulled muscles and odd injuries. It's always something. This also coincides with the annual summer Dick Harmon article about the new training regimen conjured up by Jay Omer.

Every year BYU seems to have some type of strength and conditioning problem. Linemen are too fat. Specialists are out of shape. Pulled muscles and odd injuries. It's always something. This also coincides with the annual summer Dick Harmon article about the new training regimen conjured up by Jay Omer.

WOW.. 4 full-time coaches just for conditioning and Strength..

The most crucial is Mickey Marotti, who will hold the title of assistant athletic director for football sports performance and will hire four full-time strength and conditioning staff members to work just with football players.

A few minutes later, in a question-and-answer session, Gee referred to the problem of coordinating 18 divisions such as independent schools and colleges.

''When we had these 18 colleges all kind of floating around, they were kind of like PT Boats, they were shooting each other,'' Gee said. ''It was kind of like the Polish army or something. I have no idea what it was.''

As nervous laughter arose in the audience of a couple hundred listeners at a Columbus Metropolitan Club monthly forum, Gee said, ''Oh, never mind, who did I embarrass now?'' A moment later he said: ''I'll have to raise money for Poland now.''

Gee did not apologize afterward, and stumbled a bit in responding to questions about the propriety of the remark.

''Now if you're going to say I was saying something bad about Poland, I'm not,'' he said. ''I could have used some other term, I guess, then.''