Already commented on this elsewhere, but there is plenty of meat in that video. It reflects the true roots of hip-hop, how intelligence is viewed in the gehtto, and the unspoken views of many in the black community.

I also happen to disagree with aspects of his logic, but listen and contemplate because its grounded in deep thought and a knowledge beyond custom.

"When a man with money meets a man with experience, the man with experience leaves with money and the man with money leaves with experience."

swerb wrote:I could give two shits about gay marriage, abortion, or the environment. I don't care, at all. Those should be state issues.

I want the government to interject some accountability in how they spend tax dollars. Since this will realistically never happen, I am in favor of never increasing taxes, ever ... to force some sort of fiscal restraint on these assholes that control our tax dollars.

I want someone to fix this broken economy. Obama has proven 100x over that he is so unqualified to lead on this task that it's comical.

And I want someone to keep America safe and do the exact opposite of whatever Dennis Kucinish says when it comes to foreign policy.

There is a massive gap between those issues and whatever would be fourth on my list.

I'm pretty much in 100% agreement with this Rich, I'd nit pick that the environment being more than just a state issue, but regardless right now it is on the back burner compared to the economy. IMO helping maintain an economy and protecting our borders are most important today.

IMO fixing the economy though isn't really possible b/c there isn't "a fix", it's more about not getting in its way and micro managing it as we do. We created the whole notion of our economic structure yet we let it run us. Outside of placing safe guards for abuses less is really more and the balance of control of our economic destiny should always lie in the hands of the people, the tax payers.

Criminals in this town used to believe in things...honor, respect."I heard your dog is sick, so bought you this shovel"

Romney's the unstoppable freight train. Cain's the little engine that (maybe) could. Perry has run off the tracks and will eventually slam into the side of the mountain. Bachmann missed the train. Newt, too smart to take the train, is arriving too late in his Mercedes.

Ziner wrote:I still like Huntsman though. Pretty disappointed he never got off the ground.

Paul's afraid of boarding the train, because he fears that once they close the doors on him, they may not let him out. Santorum is the frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of running train on someone's buttparts. Johnson & Huntsman were just about to board when the train conductor--oblivious to their existence, like everyone else--failed to notice and left the station. Also, Palin can't spell train, and, at the last minute, Christie refused to get on, because his fat ass was going to be charged for two seats.

If you think about it, it's not outlandish to think that Cain may realistically have the best chance to beat Obama.

Way I see it, even though he has a long rack record of winning elections, Perry would have little to no chance to beat Obama. He's just too unlikable, while Obama is very.

Romney - you'd think this would be his dream scenario. Emerge relatively blood-less from a weak as hell Repub field, and go into an election with the #1 issue (economy) being his strongest one. And running against a guy who almost admittedly knows nothing about the economy and who's top job pre-politics was being a community planner. Here's the thing though. Romney has lost every election he's ever been in outside of the 1994 MA Governor race. And despite good approval ratings in the job, most signs pointed to him losing his re-election bid if he woulda went for a second term.

Cain's biggest weakness (lack of political experience, not qualified/ready to be President allegations) is negated by the fact that Obama was elected with the same massive weakness. And it's still a big weakness of his.

Cain's candidacy can die as quick as it's risen here. I'm just glad someone else besides Romney and Perry is still relevant.

"It's like dating a woman who hates you so much she will never break up with you, even if you burn down the house every single autumn." ~ Chuck Klosterman on Browns fans relationship with the Browns

Cain's biggest weakness (lack of political experience, not qualified/ready to be President allegations) is negated by the fact that Obama was elected with the same massive weakness. And it's still a big weakness of his.

So..... Cain's weakness is negated by the fact Obama had the same weakness..... which is still a big weakness?

"Hey vote for Cain, his weakness is negated!"

I want to see Chris Christie run, not for President, I just want to see him run. Is it true he played Lardass is Stand By me?

I laughed at the people saying ^ along with the birther kooks and the other assorted right wing hail mary's. Guy won. (Period)

Bloomberg did a study of the 9/9/9 and it would bring in 2 versus the 2.2 trillion in revenues. That was based on 2010 tax year, and of course the evaluation is static. IMO its close enough that things can be tweaked.

"When a man with money meets a man with experience, the man with experience leaves with money and the man with money leaves with experience."

Orenthal wrote:I laughed at the people saying ^ along with the birther kooks and the other assorted right wing hail mary's. Guy won. (Period)

Bloomberg did a study of the 9/9/9 and it would bring in 2 versus the 2.2 trillion in revenues. That was based on 2010 tax year, and of course the evaluation is static. IMO its close enough that things can be tweaked.

I think it broadens the base, but unless its combined with a rebate up to the poverty line (on the income tax), its too regressive. On the corporate side I see lowing and removing loopholes as a means to initiate growth by voluntary compliance, reduction in the cost of tax preperation/avoidance, and removal of uncertainty.

It is by no means perfect especially since it isn't fleshed out. He will no doubt be attacked/questioned alot more in the debates given he is now a frontrunner. His plan will sink or swim upon that inspection. Until that happens I'm optimistic, but no dreamy about the plan.

"When a man with money meets a man with experience, the man with experience leaves with money and the man with money leaves with experience."

Supposedly Jack Kemp was a big supporter of them, I really don't know, but think somehow you target areas for tax reduction. At this point, and its early so any canidate is gonna have holes, I prefer it to Romney's 59 point more of the same pick winners and losers bullshit.

Once Cain's plan is drilled, it may turn out Romney's is better, but how can we make final judgements until they are fully presented.

"When a man with money meets a man with experience, the man with experience leaves with money and the man with money leaves with experience."