Short version: - Payment went on hold start of august. - emailed google numerous times. recieved a reply oct 20th 'invalid clicks have been generated and we will review if you continue to get invalid clicks we will suspend your account'. Sent analytics logs to them for help in the investigation. - Earnings still in my account for August, September and October adding up to nearly 20,000$. - No reply as of yet.

Server Stats: 500k+ page views day up to 16k unique ip's per day.

What I've done about it: I've contacted adsense advisor (I'm ignored), e-mailed adsense-uk, adsense-adclicks, adsense-support... (Ignored) and they just don't seem to care that my business is going down because I'm losing like almost 20k USD in the last months due to 'this invalid clicks' that is being under review forever...

Since July this has just really upset me, made life hard for me, I'm seeing "bankrupt" in my eyes in the next months.

I've tried other sources of income but they just dont work, "or looked great then didnt work out".

Only one thing that keeping me hopefuly this last weeks is I was contacted by a rank 6k alexa site offering to pay money for advertising, we trialed 24 hours at 200$ and now I'm waiting for them to get back to me on a monthly deal if everything worked out the way they hoped.

Now I'm struggling here, upset because I've got too much to live for, and so much to lose if google don't snap up I'm done for.

GP, Goes to cry.

Looks like im going to have to take google to court over the whole ordeal if nothing is done about it.

Well GP, considering you have a large site with massive ad clicks, validating your site is going to fall in one of two categories: good or bad, no middle ground. I just dont see a gray area with the numbers you bring in. If you are "truly" legit, there should be no reason why you shouldn't get your money. If for whatever reason you are not, and I'm not saying you are, cut your losses quick and I suggest you replicate the same "magical" formula you used on something similar. Otherwise, get yourself a lawyer. If I was you and things where 100% legit, I would have attorneys lined up and ready to go.

You seem to have an outreach, perhaps you can create enough of a stink, if you are who you say you are. Hopefully it works out for you man.

Sorry GP, but this is the dark side of AdSense. Even if you are innocent, you can still be banned, and your accounts frozen. It's because there is no foolproof solution to determine who clicked what.

This thread will probably be locked eventually, but I want to remind anyone who is concerned about this to consider reducing their exposure to a lost AdSense account. Diversify, don't put all your eggs in one basket.

Minor rant - it's one thing I hope the UK never follows the US in, although sometimes it looks like it's already started. When something goes bad, everyone starts yelling lawyers, which puts everyone on the defensive, and cuts all ties for long term successful business relationships. The old fashioned way was to sort things out by talking about them. This isn't directed at you GP, as I can understand your frustration at not being able to contact anyone about it. But it just annoys me that so many Americans (sorry to generalise) choose to solve problems with lawyers.

Even if you wanted to go the legal route, Google has all the cards stacked in their favor with the terms of service agreement you signed and agreed to when you put ads on your site. That agreement is a legally binding contract that says they can pull service whenever they want without penalty. Even if you were somehow able to get the money earned while Google ran on your site, it's not running now nor will it until Google decides it will. IMHO, your only recourse is to be polite, persistant and helpful because it's up to Google now.

if this happens to you guys you wouldn't complain? c'mon all i did was ever paste the code on my site. if running a large site gets you nowhere, what the hell is adsense for. "lucky people who don't get click frauded"?

GP, If AS is still running on your site, since Aug... I guess that could interpreted to be a good sign. However, for you to have left the code on your pages and pilled up a $20k I.O.U., well that makes you a great optimist. At some point, you'll have to assume the worst case scenario and move on. Put AS on hold, and earn something somewhere else.

if this happens to you guys you wouldn't complain? c'mon all i did was ever paste the code on my site. if running a large site gets you nowhere, what the hell is adsense for. "lucky people who don't get click frauded"?

Guys , you don't realise the stress im going through, I can't find any way to contact them, it's a circle of hell.. i email them they dont email me, they asked me to Help them and it's not helping me by helping them it's only being ignored in /dev/null of one of their special linux-googleOS boxes.

Look I'm frustrated you wouldn't understand until this occours to you but I'm a big player in google adsense and to just be kicked out would of told me so.. but this is 'teasing me', not only do i have funds google failed to pay me for, I'm sitting on a fence that wont pay up.

I've tried everything else, valueclick (take 200$ away for no reason even though its cpm ads), clicks0r (poor and non-efficient), big Y (wont accept me as im a UK account holder only), bidvertiser (is a scam they disable your account within days of payments), chitika (not worth it they pay so cheap per click cpm ads would be nice i guess), and blah blah...

My options are few.

PM me if you want to advertise at my site instead of going through 'cut profit advertising partnerships like google with a big company name, automated systems with no real people behind it, that take your money away from you when you really don't expect it being a publisher with them for god damn long time, and earnings probably over 100k with them - suddenly your ruined'.

I just don't know what you want from us. You have posted this smae question numerous times. We have all given you the best advice that we have. The issue you have is with Google. There is nothing more we can add that hasn't been said in every single thread you've started. You seem to disregard any advice that is given, and for some bizarre reason continue to display adsense adverts on your site - even though your account is on hold (just don't get this one at all), one minute you rave about how fantastic another money-earning system is - making more money than adsense, the next you say it isn't. Your time posting on this subject has now reached its conclusion. None of us have anything more to offer.....Move on. If you get your money from adsense brilliant, if not, then there is no use crying over spilt milk. Start something else, or find other ways to monetise what you have. So you may not be making the "fortune" you were making before. Life's a bitch sometimes, but you just have to get on with it.

No GP, No one here can possibly understand the stress you are under right now, but many in their clear mind are trying to tell you move on, maybe this would have been your thought too if you were under less pressure, listen to them, make lemonade out of the lemon you have been dealt, and enough with the rants and wining. Worst case you will be making less money somewhere else, you still have your traffic and site, make it so.

Alexa ranks are based on toolbars not some 'real math calculation you can rely upon', however I'm in the top 100k sites on the web in Alexa... infact I'm fairly confident and have been in the top 10-50k websites in my time.. only summer knocked me back up to about 70k... and I'm getting daily ranks of 10k.. or so.

I've tried everything else, valueclick (take 200$ away for no reason even though its cpm ads), clicks0r (poor and non-efficient), big Y (wont accept me as im a UK account holder only), bidvertiser (is a scam they disable your account within days of payments), chitika (not worth it they pay so cheap per click cpm ads would be nice i guess), and blah blah...

GP, try thinking outside the box. With your traffic you should be able to capitalize on ecommerce. Do you have any ideas on catchy slogans about your site?

With 16,000 uniques a day all you would need is for 15 of them to buy a t-shirt from cafepress to net you @ $200 per day.

Rocker, thanks for giving me some advise there, I understand what your saying I was in bed all night thinking if 16,000 of them paid me 1$ each to access their mail for a month.. thats 16,000$ month... but then I thoguht they'd likely get upset, meh it might be required soon.

I called google in the UK.. i was put onto an extremely rude operator..

I talked to her, she was nice at first, told me their are no adwords or adsense numbers to call, then told me that if i give out my account number to them they'll call me back... so i signed into google adsense to write my account number down and then she repeatingly saying 'Sorry your breaking up, I can't hear you, I can't hear you, Hello, I can't hear you' then put the phone down, I got full signal on my mobile phone.

This is absolutely a scam they have going on, when you tell them your account number they tell you they can't hear you, so then they rudely put the phone down instead of trying to 'listen to you'.

I'm very sad now.

-- that's it im getting a girl I know to call them up and tell them my account number in the next hour... google your now going to fix the problem with me once and for all.