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When living over seas in a country that frowns on VPN services it was hard to get information from Google about this issue.
I was in Liwan district of Guangzhou (China). And heard "when the levee breaks" , playing out of a small little shop that sells soda's, candy, ect...ect.. At first I thought it was cool, "hearing zeppelin in china in the public" I could tell the older woman at the cashier wasn't paying much attention to the song. But I was. I noticed that the lyrics to this version were different and I stood their amazed how weird but awesome and a little bit racist the lyrics were ( Monkey Man) was in part of the lyrics. I was dumbfounded, why use such language? Well I did some research on the term "Monkey man" and it has nothing to do with race. It refers to a woman who has a loyal husband, but she just can't keep her dress down with another man. So that man is called a monkey man. That leads me to the main question. Where can I find the Outtakes of when the levee breaks.

It seems every year we hear news that Jimmy is going to release some music and get back on the road and tour. Nothing.
I am beginning to think he is done, playing and just concentrating on Zeppelin reissues.....enough already. I've been a Zeppelin fan since my teens and now I am 45, I missed the Zeppelin touring days, but would love to see a Jimmy Page concert.

When the news came out that Jimmy Page has some more goodies for us Led~heads to digest. I admit I was excited. Having bought all the new remastered catalog with companion disc. I felt I had everything I needed from official led zeppelin merchandise. When I saw that the first bit of official led zeppelin stuff was an illustrated book, I was boo hoo about that. Their is already some great illustrated books on zeppelin ready to buy if the looker took the time to search for it. So it got me thinking. Is Jimmy Page double dipping on his fan base that I take is still quite big? What more can Page release that would fill the need for me to buy it? Video have been talked about for years. Would I want to watch another mixed and matched Zeppelin concert? If that is what is coming out, it should be when Zeppelin was in their hunger years, with that do or die attitude they had from 69'-72. Zeppelin between these years were at a special place. Testing the limits on what is rock blues to sonic bombardment. I am not saying Zeppelin in latter years was not good. Though a strong argument can be made that Zeppelin from 1973-77 were not the same band. Many factors have already been explained why the decrease in techniques in playing. Page has been quoted saying "zeppelin most creative period was from 70-72"
SO in closing, if Mr. Page has something from this time frame that really catches the fire of a rising dominate Led Zeppelin, either in Audio or video. By all means release it. If it just a mix bag of best of led zeppelin live. Keep it locked up.

I hate admitting this. I thought this movie sucked when I first heard it. Raunchy voice by Plant. Lack luster drumming by Bonzo, and Page looking tired. Though when I grew up I found myself really enjoying some of the tracks on this soundtrack. Rain Song was pure magic, Celebration Day rocked, Black Dog was stellar, and Since I've been loving you, is Epic. Wish they would do the 1975 concert in Seattle live. I have been told that show kicked ass.

I don't see the point in doing a illustrated book, though I don't see the point in complaining about it. I am looking forward to the unheard music being released. I already have an illustrated book on Led Zeppelin.

Considering that the band has never shy'ed away from a challenge as {Led Zeppelin} this formation with Jason, they came out with nothing to prove. Only the fear of overwhelming expectations and not meeting them. Robert, Jimmy, Jones, & Jason. Kicked some ass that night.

My Father was a classically trained pianist. He grew up in a different era of music. The Generation gap between men who served between the finish of WW2 and Korea. His taste in music was Classical, such as Mozart..ect.., Jazz, big band music. Never forget when he heard Kashmir. He knew that was a masterpiece.

As a huge fan of Zeppelin, I began to understand that Zeppelin relevance lays in their awesome live shows that have become stuffs of Legends. I know some of these so called "special shows" have circulated between collectors, bootleggers, audio techies. What ever you want to call them. My question is this. How come Jimmy who owns the majority rights to Zeppelins catalog (what I am assuming would include live shows) still have not done a box set of Zeppelin 71-80 best of live shows.) Using the best of the best bootlegs, live in vault stuff( the recordings that Kevin Shirley) said was "not very good." asked during a rolling stones interview. What I've read on this form is that their is some great live recordings that can be "adjusted" to sound awesome on a home stereo. I guess I am still hungry for the raw live power of Zeppelin, done to the quality sound Page would be proud of.

A few years ago I went and saw Plants Band of Joy concert in Seattle. This would have been the 4th time I seen Plant. Either with Page or without. I remember the show being one prosaic concerts I've attended in a long time. I was horrified by the country, blue grass, Americana. Call it what you like. The energy was lacking from the band, and Plant stood their under the spot light looking tired. I felt at that moment that Plant lost the magic. Then came Black Dog, and I was so disappointed how this rendition was done. I boo'ed my idol. Then I walked out. I've been a plant fan since the age of 12. I Knew of the song (big log) before I new of any Zeppelin music. I do admire his courage to try new things, but this style of music is not working for me. I like spacey music, Peter Gabriel comes to mind. Though when Plant does this to Zeppelin classics, it's a shame. He knows that 90% of the fans at his shows are there for Zeppelin. I hope he stops singing it all together.

You guys may disagree on this. I think there were a handful of good live tunes played at Knebworth. On both shows.
I think Zeppelin came back with raw power during their tour over Europe. No thrills, or long sloppy solos, just plain hard raw Zeppelin. The energy was their, on most of their shows. I know that it gave Plant some renewed fondness of being in Zeppelin. Believe me I do enjoy the Zeppelin Knebworth concerts, but some of the songs seem bloated and outdated for 1979. Led Zeppelin 1980 concerts were something to witness. I just wish I could've.

I know I am almost 4 years late to comment on this subject. Though what the heck. Led Zeppelin Kashmir with John Bonham is in my opinion much better than the 02 concert. Just do to the thunder that John brings that Jason doesn't. Some of the Tour over Europe versions are amazing as well.

Question about No Quarter. Why did they cut the middle section of the song in the remastered version of Song Remains the Same. I know it's in some other comments here. Just bought it in Hong Kong. Was sad....very sad.

I think the song "what is What should never be" Live is amazing, The power that comes through on that song is incredible.
When the levee breaks live was a complete joke. Never should have been done. Studio version is untouchable.
No Quarter live in 1977 is a joke, to long and boring. Studio is still better.
Black dog live. Power all out thunder. Studio is nice, but the Live versions kick some butt.

I do not see Zeppelin ever playing live again. For many reasons. From what I've read in this form. Jimmy is done playing music. Plant is still playing but will not jam with the others. It is over guys.

I think Robert has been trying for years to distance himself from the Rock God status. When we think of Zeppelin Robert Plant isn't the first person to come to mind. Bonham, Jones do. With this current band Plant talks about how his sounds brings out different landscapes. Well it sounds all to familiar to his other recent solo works. Stairway to Heaven is one of Zeppelins best "musically" written tracks. Plant may not like playing the song do to the outdated lyrics on it. I personally think "when the Levee Breaks" is Zeppelin at it's all time best.

I use to buy Zeppelin boots. I was too young to see Zeppelin live. When they broke up in 1980 I was 9 years old. My first purchase was (destroyer 1977) I was not impressed with the sound quality. Plus the performance was not up to Zeppelin standers. Next I bought Zeppelin 1980 Berlin concert. I was disappointed in the sound quality again. So for a long time feeling like I been suckered I stop buying Zeppelin Boots. Then I joined this web sight, and had to satisfy my craving for some raw zeppelin music. I bought Listen to this Eddie in Hong Kong. It kicked my ass. I was Amazed from the start. Bonham drumming on the Song remains the Same. I did not think that was humanly possible to drum like that. My Chinese neighbors hate me. Though I do not mind. Zeppelin to me is by far the best band that ever walked the earth. Thank you guys for all the information on good live Zeppelin to buy.