Ter wrote:Well I am sorry to burst your intellectual bubble but white is also not a colour.White is the result of all other colours coming together.Black is the total absence of colour.Biologically the colour of the skin of people is determined by the amount of melanin produced and that is determined by at least four (Cavalli-Sforza) but probably more genes.

Rapperson wrote:I'm not going to be asking you any more relevant questions, as it is clearly pointless.

I know how that feels!

Now, since you get accused of 'straw man' a lot, do you find it happens because of discrimination?

I am rarely accused of that.

Back to the topic,

The fact that white men have historically avoided being subject to persecution due to race or gender may easily explain why they are currently powerful enough to avoid disenfranchisement in the future.

The corollary of that is that women and people of colour are far more likely to be disenfranchised in the future because of their relative lack of power today, which is a result of previous persecution.

Igor Antunov wrote:I posted this in the other thread but it truly belongs here:

It's an interesting point.

I've heard these people piss and moan about how everything in STEM is white men, white men, white men. All you have to do to know that's bullshit is walk through the stacks in a science and engineering library and take note of all the names.

But, more to the point, I don't see any screaming and crying about how less than 0.2% of the world's population is hugely overrepresented, for example, in 27% of Fields Medal recipients.

Pants-of-dog wrote:Now, why are all the people who got angry at this blog not also getting angry at the Trump supporters who discussed taking away the voting rights of women?

One can oppose both with equal candor. One should oppose both. The Huffington Post article and the supporters railing against the female vote are examples of extremists whose opinions are equally deplorable. One idea should not be laughed off or hand-waved away simply because it comes from a minority or person with less power; all racist, sexist, and bigoted ideas - no matter how unlikely - can germinate over time and metastasize into actual oppression and violence.

The irony with the posts in this thread and the OP is that people want to discriminate white male voting privileges in order to balance equality with other races. But it clearly hasn't occured to them that by having this viewpoint of discriminating against someone for 'just being a white male' it is just as racist/sexist as any other discrimination with race or sex we have today. Everyone has the right to vote no matter your race, sex or religion. And if we can agree on this minor point, be might actually finally progress in society rather than argue amongst ourselves. Let's not return to us vs them thank you and leave the pasts slavery injustices to the past... where it fucking belongs!