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Personally I find it absolutely incredible if no sell-on clause was incorporated in the case of a player who obviously had such great potential, Accepting a buy-out in straitened financial circumstances is more understandable, but it depends on what the buy-out figure was.
But in general a sell-on clause for any decent academy product ought surely to be regarded as mandatory: why should the 'big clubs' be the ones to profit so much from the work of our academy?

Personally I find it absolutely incredible if no sell-on clause was incorporated in the case of a player who obviously had such great potential, Accepting a buy-out in straitened financial circumstances is more understandable, but it depends on what the buy-out figure was.
But in general a sell-on clause for any decent academy product ought surely to be regarded as mandatory: why should the 'big clubs' be the ones to profit so much from the work of our academy?classof'77

In today's football market, I think the use of the word "huge" is slightly exaggerated at £2M. Don't get me wrong for most of us fans and of course the paper, £2M would be life changing. But in the context of a potential 85 - 100M deal, I think you're stretching a little.

Gordon,
In today's football market, I think the use of the word "huge" is slightly exaggerated at £2M. Don't get me wrong for most of us fans and of course the paper, £2M would be life changing. But in the context of a potential 85 - 100M deal, I think you're stretching a little.Matthew Radlett

In today's football market, I think the use of the word &quot;huge" is slightly exaggerated at £2M. Don't get me wrong for most of us fans and of course the paper, £2M would be life changing. But in the context of a potential 85 - 100M deal, I think you're stretching a little.

True but you can buy a division two club for that kind of money. Well 23 of them anyway. The other one is worthless.

[quote][p][bold]Matthew Radlett[/bold] wrote:
Gordon,
In today's football market, I think the use of the word "huge" is slightly exaggerated at £2M. Don't get me wrong for most of us fans and of course the paper, £2M would be life changing. But in the context of a potential 85 - 100M deal, I think you're stretching a little.[/p][/quote]True but you can buy a division two club for that kind of money. Well 23 of them anyway. The other one is worthless.Clever Dick

You get a text from Tesco, British Airways etc etc to remind you about deliveries, flights etc - we should have same system to let fans know when there is any real transfer news.

It would save us wasting time keep coming on here reading pointless space-fillers. Yawn.

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You get a text from Tesco, British Airways etc etc to remind you about deliveries, flights etc - we should have same system to let fans know when there is any real transfer news.
It would save us wasting time keep coming on here reading pointless space-fillers. Yawn.saint christopher

It wouldn't surprise me if we didn't have a sell on clause. I seem to recall we didn't have one for Shearer either when he went to Blackburn and then on to Newcastle.
But I do wonder why we didn't have one with Bale? It does make me think, now why wouldn't we have one. What possible reason could there be for that?
I can't remember who was CEO when Bale went. Was it Crouch or Lowe or Wilde? Or some combination of those three.
Off topic: Does anybody know if BT Infinity improves streaming reception?george chivers

classof'77 wrote:
Personally I find it absolutely incredible if no sell-on clause was incorporated in the case of a player who obviously had such great potential, Accepting a buy-out in straitened financial circumstances is more understandable, but it depends on what the buy-out figure was. But in general a sell-on clause for any decent academy product ought surely to be regarded as mandatory: why should the 'big clubs' be the ones to profit so much from the work of our academy?

It was incorporated but written off in exchange for some up front cash when we were on the brink of going bust - same for walcott.

[quote][p][bold]classof'77[/bold] wrote:
Personally I find it absolutely incredible if no sell-on clause was incorporated in the case of a player who obviously had such great potential, Accepting a buy-out in straitened financial circumstances is more understandable, but it depends on what the buy-out figure was. But in general a sell-on clause for any decent academy product ought surely to be regarded as mandatory: why should the 'big clubs' be the ones to profit so much from the work of our academy?[/p][/quote]It was incorporated but written off in exchange for some up front cash when we were on the brink of going bust - same for walcott.mattboy111

Is that a real question about streaming?? That's the fibre optic package isn't it?? One of the quickest Internet connections out, what do you think!? Lol

[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me if we didn't have a sell on clause. I seem to recall we didn't have one for Shearer either when he went to Blackburn and then on to Newcastle.
But I do wonder why we didn't have one with Bale? It does make me think, now why wouldn't we have one. What possible reason could there be for that?
I can't remember who was CEO when Bale went. Was it Crouch or Lowe or Wilde? Or some combination of those three.
Off topic: Does anybody know if BT Infinity improves streaming reception?[/p][/quote]Is that a real question about streaming?? That's the fibre optic package isn't it?? One of the quickest Internet connections out, what do you think!? LolSouthamptonLegend

Can't wait for all the Spurs fans to turn on Bale he'll go from god to a greedy money grabbing **** in a matter of seconds, it's bad enough that they claim to have made him the player he is today, good luck to him, hope he goes on to win the Champions League, coz I can't remember any other ex-Saint to do that? Anybody?

Can't wait for all the Spurs fans to turn on Bale he'll go from god to a greedy money grabbing **** in a matter of seconds, it's bad enough that they claim to have made him the player he is today, good luck to him, hope he goes on to win the Champions League, coz I can't remember any other ex-Saint to do that? Anybody?mbetts

Is that a real question about streaming?? That's the fibre optic package isn't it?? One of the quickest Internet connections out, what do you think!? Lol

I have no idea, I am technically ignorant.

I notice a lot of people on here complain about the quality of streaming, some of whom I thought would have BT Infinity. That's why I asked the question. Are there other factors other than the speed of broadband which affect streaming reception. As I said I am technically ignorant.

[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me if we didn't have a sell on clause. I seem to recall we didn't have one for Shearer either when he went to Blackburn and then on to Newcastle.
But I do wonder why we didn't have one with Bale? It does make me think, now why wouldn't we have one. What possible reason could there be for that?
I can't remember who was CEO when Bale went. Was it Crouch or Lowe or Wilde? Or some combination of those three.
Off topic: Does anybody know if BT Infinity improves streaming reception?[/p][/quote]Is that a real question about streaming?? That's the fibre optic package isn't it?? One of the quickest Internet connections out, what do you think!? Lol[/p][/quote]I have no idea, I am technically ignorant.
I notice a lot of people on here complain about the quality of streaming, some of whom I thought would have BT Infinity. That's why I asked the question. Are there other factors other than the speed of broadband which affect streaming reception. As I said I am technically ignorant.george chivers

Good luck to Gareth in Spain if he does in fact move. Personally I think it'll do him such a lot of good and he is young enough to return to the EPL anytime. If Saints get a windfall we should all be grateful and snug in the certain knowledge the money will be used in a wise manner furthering the Saints Euro-Bus.

Good luck to Gareth in Spain if he does in fact move. Personally I think it'll do him such a lot of good and he is young enough to return to the EPL anytime. If Saints get a windfall we should all be grateful and snug in the certain knowledge the money will be used in a wise manner furthering the Saints Euro-Bus.Tirau Dan

You get a text from Tesco, British Airways etc etc to remind you about deliveries, flights etc - we should have same system to let fans know when there is any real transfer news.

It would save us wasting time keep coming on here reading pointless space-fillers. Yawn.

Pretty amusing when people come on here and slag off the DE. If you don't like what they say, or find it so boring, then don't log on to their site. Pretty simple really..............
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Before Markus Liebherr pured money into the Club, 2 million quid was the diffference between us surviving or going out of business. It is definitely a meaningful sum of money, even though we find ourselves in an entirely different financial position now. And something well worth reporting..........

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You get a text from Tesco, British Airways etc etc to remind you about deliveries, flights etc - we should have same system to let fans know when there is any real transfer news.
It would save us wasting time keep coming on here reading pointless space-fillers. Yawn.[/p][/quote]Pretty amusing when people come on here and slag off the DE. If you don't like what they say, or find it so boring, then don't log on to their site. Pretty simple really..............
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Before Markus Liebherr pured money into the Club, 2 million quid was the diffference between us surviving or going out of business. It is definitely a meaningful sum of money, even though we find ourselves in an entirely different financial position now. And something well worth reporting..........MiltonRoad

Is that a real question about streaming?? That's the fibre optic package isn't it?? One of the quickest Internet connections out, what do you think!? Lol

I have no idea, I am technically ignorant.

I notice a lot of people on here complain about the quality of streaming, some of whom I thought would have BT Infinity. That's why I asked the question. Are there other factors other than the speed of broadband which affect streaming reception. As I said I am technically ignorant.

The speed of your broadband depends on a number of factors. I have infinity but it can still be slow at peak times. For example around 9am when all the office computers are firing up. It can also vary dependant upon the distance you are from your serving telephone exchange and if your connection is partly fibre optic or is just a copper pair. If it's copper the losses and distortion of signal are greater so the speed has to be slower. Unfortunately you won't be able to tell which you are on. You can go on the BT web siteand get a prospective download speed which will give you some idea.

[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me if we didn't have a sell on clause. I seem to recall we didn't have one for Shearer either when he went to Blackburn and then on to Newcastle.
But I do wonder why we didn't have one with Bale? It does make me think, now why wouldn't we have one. What possible reason could there be for that?
I can't remember who was CEO when Bale went. Was it Crouch or Lowe or Wilde? Or some combination of those three.
Off topic: Does anybody know if BT Infinity improves streaming reception?[/p][/quote]Is that a real question about streaming?? That's the fibre optic package isn't it?? One of the quickest Internet connections out, what do you think!? Lol[/p][/quote]I have no idea, I am technically ignorant.
I notice a lot of people on here complain about the quality of streaming, some of whom I thought would have BT Infinity. That's why I asked the question. Are there other factors other than the speed of broadband which affect streaming reception. As I said I am technically ignorant.[/p][/quote]The speed of your broadband depends on a number of factors. I have infinity but it can still be slow at peak times. For example around 9am when all the office computers are firing up. It can also vary dependant upon the distance you are from your serving telephone exchange and if your connection is partly fibre optic or is just a copper pair. If it's copper the losses and distortion of signal are greater so the speed has to be slower. Unfortunately you won't be able to tell which you are on. You can go on the BT web siteand get a prospective download speed which will give you some idea.Clever Dick

Is that a real question about streaming?? That's the fibre optic package isn't it?? One of the quickest Internet connections out, what do you think!? Lol

I have no idea, I am technically ignorant.

I notice a lot of people on here complain about the quality of streaming, some of whom I thought would have BT Infinity. That's why I asked the question. Are there other factors other than the speed of broadband which affect streaming reception. As I said I am technically ignorant.

The speed of your broadband depends on a number of factors. I have infinity but it can still be slow at peak times. For example around 9am when all the office computers are firing up. It can also vary dependant upon the distance you are from your serving telephone exchange and if your connection is partly fibre optic or is just a copper pair. If it's copper the losses and distortion of signal are greater so the speed has to be slower. Unfortunately you won't be able to tell which you are on. You can go on the BT web siteand get a prospective download speed which will give you some idea.

Thanks CD, much appreciated. GC.

[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me if we didn't have a sell on clause. I seem to recall we didn't have one for Shearer either when he went to Blackburn and then on to Newcastle.
But I do wonder why we didn't have one with Bale? It does make me think, now why wouldn't we have one. What possible reason could there be for that?
I can't remember who was CEO when Bale went. Was it Crouch or Lowe or Wilde? Or some combination of those three.
Off topic: Does anybody know if BT Infinity improves streaming reception?[/p][/quote]Is that a real question about streaming?? That's the fibre optic package isn't it?? One of the quickest Internet connections out, what do you think!? Lol[/p][/quote]I have no idea, I am technically ignorant.
I notice a lot of people on here complain about the quality of streaming, some of whom I thought would have BT Infinity. That's why I asked the question. Are there other factors other than the speed of broadband which affect streaming reception. As I said I am technically ignorant.[/p][/quote]The speed of your broadband depends on a number of factors. I have infinity but it can still be slow at peak times. For example around 9am when all the office computers are firing up. It can also vary dependant upon the distance you are from your serving telephone exchange and if your connection is partly fibre optic or is just a copper pair. If it's copper the losses and distortion of signal are greater so the speed has to be slower. Unfortunately you won't be able to tell which you are on. You can go on the BT web siteand get a prospective download speed which will give you some idea.[/p][/quote]Thanks CD, much appreciated. GC.george chivers

The CEO at the time was Jim Hone. Leon Crouch was chairman when Bale departed, but was "axed" from the “football board” soon after – Monday June 28 2007 according to the Echo. The Club’s finances had become a more embarrassing shambles than the boardroom infighting by this time, so Bale’s departure was inevitable, even had he had wanted to stay. Which he didn’t.
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As to whose fault this mess was? Fight among yourselves. But remember, it’s not a well informed debate.

[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me if we didn't have a sell on clause. I seem to recall we didn't have one for Shearer either when he went to Blackburn and then on to Newcastle.
But I do wonder why we didn't have one with Bale? It does make me think, now why wouldn't we have one. What possible reason could there be for that?
I can't remember who was CEO when Bale went. Was it Crouch or Lowe or Wilde? Or some combination of those three.
Off topic: Does anybody know if BT Infinity improves streaming reception?[/p][/quote]The CEO at the time was Jim Hone. Leon Crouch was chairman when Bale departed, but was "axed" from the “football board” soon after – Monday June 28 2007 according to the Echo. The Club’s finances had become a more embarrassing shambles than the boardroom infighting by this time, so Bale’s departure was inevitable, even had he had wanted to stay. Which he didn’t.
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As to whose fault this mess was? Fight among yourselves. But remember, it’s not a well informed debate.Dave Juson

If Bale goes for £85m, then by my estimate £2m would only buy about one third of one of his arms. A decent buy-out clause would have secured us at least a whole leg.

In fairness to Crouch though, these deals are complicated because you can't just do the calculation on the weight or the bulk of the part of the player that's covered. Some parts of the body could be considered to be worth much more than others. For example a testicle might be considered to be worth more than an ear and, indeed, a whole 5oz willy would be worth loads more than say 25 lbs of stomach jab.

I think if Crouch had been smart enough to secure just 3 inches of Bale's willy, we'd probably get over £20m now.

Nicola is altogether more astute and I'd wager if Arsenal sell OXO on, we'll find we have a very valuable bit on our books.

If Bale goes for £85m, then by my estimate £2m would only buy about one third of one of his arms. A decent buy-out clause would have secured us at least a whole leg.
In fairness to Crouch though, these deals are complicated because you can't just do the calculation on the weight or the bulk of the part of the player that's covered. Some parts of the body could be considered to be worth much more than others. For example a testicle might be considered to be worth more than an ear and, indeed, a whole 5oz willy would be worth loads more than say 25 lbs of stomach jab.
I think if Crouch had been smart enough to secure just 3 inches of Bale's willy, we'd probably get over £20m now.
Nicola is altogether more astute and I'd wager if Arsenal sell OXO on, we'll find we have a very valuable bit on our books.Confucious

Very best wishes to him if he goes - hope he does!
Nothing against Spurs, but I think the time is right for him.
We didn't have a sell on clause with Alan Shearer - be interested to know why.
However, it just serves to show how far we've come thanks to the late Markus Liebherr (God rest his soul), the Liebherr family and indeed Nicola Cortese! Useful as it would be, it's not as if we're gonna struggle without the funds such a clause would have provided - and you can't see Nicola making the same mistake (if indeed it was a mistake). But then again, as if to prove my point of how far we've come, we no longer need to sell our best talent, and indeed, that talent won't feel the need to leave!
Let the good times roll!

Now, as for the new shirts........

Very best wishes to him if he goes - hope he does!
Nothing against Spurs, but I think the time is right for him.
We didn't have a sell on clause with Alan Shearer - be interested to know why.
However, it just serves to show how far we've come thanks to the late Markus Liebherr (God rest his soul), the Liebherr family and indeed Nicola Cortese! Useful as it would be, it's not as if we're gonna struggle without the funds such a clause would have provided - and you can't see Nicola making the same mistake (if indeed it was a mistake). But then again, as if to prove my point of how far we've come, we no longer need to sell our best talent, and indeed, that talent won't feel the need to leave!
Let the good times roll!
Now, as for the new shirts........Mister E

bigfella777 wrote:
Who sold him Leon Crouch wasn't it ? No wonder it was a **** up.

While I agree that the previous owners were a disaster, in hindsight you have to credit them for turning down the chance to be bought out by Coventry's current owners.

I remember at the time people were up in arms at us missing out on those guys, but what a lucky escape that was. From memory, many directors were for it, but the Dark Lord wouldn't play ball.

Not sure if they judged the bid correctly or were just too incompetent, but what a difference in our two clubs' fortunes.

[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote:
Who sold him Leon Crouch wasn't it ? No wonder it was a **** up.[/p][/quote]While I agree that the previous owners were a disaster, in hindsight you have to credit them for turning down the chance to be bought out by Coventry's current owners.
I remember at the time people were up in arms at us missing out on those guys, but what a lucky escape that was. From memory, many directors were for it, but the Dark Lord wouldn't play ball.
Not sure if they judged the bid correctly or were just too incompetent, but what a difference in our two clubs' fortunes.SaintJD

Is that a real question about streaming?? That's the fibre optic package isn't it?? One of the quickest Internet connections out, what do you think!? Lol

I have no idea, I am technically ignorant.

I notice a lot of people on here complain about the quality of streaming, some of whom I thought would have BT Infinity. That's why I asked the question. Are there other factors other than the speed of broadband which affect streaming reception. As I said I am technically ignorant.

To be honest george, BT spend massive amounts of money selling you something they can't provide and their customer service is awful. Your connection will depend on peak times etc but also on pop up advertising and active programmes on your pc, after this it will depend on the memory capablity and in some cases the size of your hard drive. My advice is to ask friends how they get on with their service providers and form your own judgement and NEVER listen to the sales patter. For what it's worth, I'm with Sky, have been for many years, never had a single problem, connections and streaming most of the time is instant. Used to be with BT, awful connection, on one occassion I phoned cust. services, they told me i had come through to the wrong number and gave me the correct one, this happened ten times in a row, when I looked down at the list of the numbers I had written down the tenth was the first number I phoned.! Needless to say thats when we parted company.

Hope that helps

[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me if we didn't have a sell on clause. I seem to recall we didn't have one for Shearer either when he went to Blackburn and then on to Newcastle.
But I do wonder why we didn't have one with Bale? It does make me think, now why wouldn't we have one. What possible reason could there be for that?
I can't remember who was CEO when Bale went. Was it Crouch or Lowe or Wilde? Or some combination of those three.
Off topic: Does anybody know if BT Infinity improves streaming reception?[/p][/quote]Is that a real question about streaming?? That's the fibre optic package isn't it?? One of the quickest Internet connections out, what do you think!? Lol[/p][/quote]I have no idea, I am technically ignorant.
I notice a lot of people on here complain about the quality of streaming, some of whom I thought would have BT Infinity. That's why I asked the question. Are there other factors other than the speed of broadband which affect streaming reception. As I said I am technically ignorant.[/p][/quote]To be honest george, BT spend massive amounts of money selling you something they can't provide and their customer service is awful. Your connection will depend on peak times etc but also on pop up advertising and active programmes on your pc, after this it will depend on the memory capablity and in some cases the size of your hard drive. My advice is to ask friends how they get on with their service providers and form your own judgement and NEVER listen to the sales patter. For what it's worth, I'm with Sky, have been for many years, never had a single problem, connections and streaming most of the time is instant. Used to be with BT, awful connection, on one occassion I phoned cust. services, they told me i had come through to the wrong number and gave me the correct one, this happened ten times in a row, when I looked down at the list of the numbers I had written down the tenth was the first number I phoned.! Needless to say thats when we parted company.
Hope that helpsst1halo

Dickosfc wrote:
The question for me is, would Cortese chase this 2mill? We’ve allowed the likes of Sharpe, De Ridder, Lee to name a few go for free when surely these could have warranted a transfer fee.

Who said they could go for free. They are all still on contract and would command a fee.

[quote][p][bold]Dickosfc[/bold] wrote:
The question for me is, would Cortese chase this 2mill? We’ve allowed the likes of Sharpe, De Ridder, Lee to name a few go for free when surely these could have warranted a transfer fee.[/p][/quote]Who said they could go for free. They are all still on contract and would command a fee.legod7

Dickosfc wrote:
The question for me is, would Cortese chase this 2mill? We’ve allowed the likes of Sharpe, De Ridder, Lee to name a few go for free when surely these could have warranted a transfer fee.

Small point Sharp DeRidder and Lee are still 100% Southampton players. They have been playing in the reserve games! Lee has scored too! All three may go, but it will not be for free. Personally I hope we keep Lee, as I still think he can do it for Saints down the wings.

Also NC dose not have to check the payment of the 2mil s it is automatic y the footballing govern body not by the club.

Lastly and most importantly the DE has no idea if there is a sell on clause or not. Yes a deal was done by spuds in our hour of need and they cut our throat for him. But this dose not mean in any way shape or form that a sell on fee is not in place.

The thing is the only person to know is NC and I personally can only speculate like the DE and say there is a 15% sale on fee and spuds know it and this adds to the price of the player value as Saints fee would have to be paid and therefore factored into it.

It is vey funny to hear spuds fans slowly turning against Bale now it is getting very clear he wants to go! They all remember his hart shape fingers to the fans to express his love for them, and now they see in their minds the two fingers! I've heard "at the beginning he played thirty games and we lost them all", to "let the greedy git go, he had one good season that all."

[quote][p][bold]Dickosfc[/bold] wrote:
The question for me is, would Cortese chase this 2mill? We’ve allowed the likes of Sharpe, De Ridder, Lee to name a few go for free when surely these could have warranted a transfer fee.[/p][/quote]Small point Sharp DeRidder and Lee are still 100% Southampton players. They have been playing in the reserve games! Lee has scored too! All three may go, but it will not be for free. Personally I hope we keep Lee, as I still think he can do it for Saints down the wings.
Also NC dose not have to check the payment of the 2mil s it is automatic y the footballing govern body not by the club.
Lastly and most importantly the DE has no idea if there is a sell on clause or not. Yes a deal was done by spuds in our hour of need and they cut our throat for him. But this dose not mean in any way shape or form that a sell on fee is not in place.
The thing is the only person to know is NC and I personally can only speculate like the DE and say there is a 15% sale on fee and spuds know it and this adds to the price of the player value as Saints fee would have to be paid and therefore factored into it.
It is vey funny to hear spuds fans slowly turning against Bale now it is getting very clear he wants to go! They all remember his hart shape fingers to the fans to express his love for them, and now they see in their minds the two fingers! I've heard "at the beginning he played thirty games and we lost them all", to "let the greedy git go, he had one good season that all."Saint.

Personally I couldn't care less who omitted a sell-on clause, it's all water under the bridge and £2m is a Brucie bonus! I don't want to think about those darkest days in our history although I wonder if Sir Markus had bought us 5 years earlier, would we be European Champions by now? Imagine the team sheet?

Anyway ...STID

Personally I couldn't care less who omitted a sell-on clause, it's all water under the bridge and £2m is a Brucie bonus! I don't want to think about those darkest days in our history although I wonder if Sir Markus had bought us 5 years earlier, would we be European Champions by now? Imagine the team sheet?
Anyway ...STIDst1halo

I attended Spurs V Saints as a guest of a Spurs Director at the end of the season and asked Daniel Levy whether there was a sell on clause in Bale's contract, he said it was irrelevant as Bale wasn't for sale at any price but when I asked about hypothetically he said that there was one but he bought it out.

I attended Spurs V Saints as a guest of a Spurs Director at the end of the season and asked Daniel Levy whether there was a sell on clause in Bale's contract, he said it was irrelevant as Bale wasn't for sale at any price but when I asked about hypothetically he said that there was one but he bought it out.eddie.t

Dickosfc wrote:
The question for me is, would Cortese chase this 2mill? We’ve allowed the likes of Sharpe, De Ridder, Lee to name a few go for free when surely these could have warranted a transfer fee.

Who said they could go for free. They are all still on contract and would command a fee.

[quote][p][bold]legod7[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Dickosfc[/bold] wrote:
The question for me is, would Cortese chase this 2mill? We’ve allowed the likes of Sharpe, De Ridder, Lee to name a few go for free when surely these could have warranted a transfer fee.[/p][/quote]Who said they could go for free. They are all still on contract and would command a fee.[/p][/quote]Apologies the free list is:
Frazer Richardson
Danny Butterfield
Dan Seaborne
Ryan Dickson
Ben Reeves
Sam Hoskins
Tommy Forecast
Alberto Seidi
I'll get it right next time!! :-)Dickosfc

classof'77 wrote:
Personally I find it absolutely incredible if no sell-on clause was incorporated in the case of a player who obviously had such great potential, Accepting a buy-out in straitened financial circumstances is more understandable, but it depends on what the buy-out figure was. But in general a sell-on clause for any decent academy product ought surely to be regarded as mandatory: why should the 'big clubs' be the ones to profit so much from the work of our academy?

It was incorporated but written off in exchange for some up front cash when we were on the brink of going bust - same for walcott.

We have the same problem with our 'News' in Portsmouth. I think sometimes they just like to fill space on their web page.

I hope The Saints do get a cut of the sell on fee if he goes, it's only fair due. As has been said before I find it strange that a player with such obvious potential was sold without a sell on clause being included.

That said, I can't wait for the new season. Bring on the results. Best wishes to The Saints, I really do hope you maintain your presence in The Premier League this season. Go from strength to strength and keep a team from Hampshire in the top divisions.

I'll be watching your results and wishing you all the best!

[quote][p][bold]mattboy111[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]classof'77[/bold] wrote:
Personally I find it absolutely incredible if no sell-on clause was incorporated in the case of a player who obviously had such great potential, Accepting a buy-out in straitened financial circumstances is more understandable, but it depends on what the buy-out figure was. But in general a sell-on clause for any decent academy product ought surely to be regarded as mandatory: why should the 'big clubs' be the ones to profit so much from the work of our academy?[/p][/quote]It was incorporated but written off in exchange for some up front cash when we were on the brink of going bust - same for walcott.[/p][/quote]We have the same problem with our 'News' in Portsmouth. I think sometimes they just like to fill space on their web page.
I hope The Saints do get a cut of the sell on fee if he goes, it's only fair due. As has been said before I find it strange that a player with such obvious potential was sold without a sell on clause being included.
That said, I can't wait for the new season. Bring on the results. Best wishes to The Saints, I really do hope you maintain your presence in The Premier League this season. Go from strength to strength and keep a team from Hampshire in the top divisions.
I'll be watching your results and wishing you all the best!Pompey1898

Dickosfc wrote:
The question for me is, would Cortese chase this 2mill? We’ve allowed the likes of Sharpe, De Ridder, Lee to name a few go for free when surely these could have warranted a transfer fee.

Who said they could go for free. They are all still on contract and would command a fee.

[quote][p][bold]Dickosfc[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]legod7[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Dickosfc[/bold] wrote:
The question for me is, would Cortese chase this 2mill? We’ve allowed the likes of Sharpe, De Ridder, Lee to name a few go for free when surely these could have warranted a transfer fee.[/p][/quote]Who said they could go for free. They are all still on contract and would command a fee.[/p][/quote]Apologies the free list is:
Frazer Richardson
Danny Butterfield
Dan Seaborne
Ryan Dickson
Ben Reeves
Sam Hoskins
Tommy Forecast
Alberto Seidi
I'll get it right next time!! :-)[/p][/quote]Maybe we could to a 'buy one get one free' offer on Steve De Ridder?SaintJD

bigfella777 wrote:
Who sold him Leon Crouch wasn't it ? No wonder it was a **** up.

While I agree that the previous owners were a disaster, in hindsight you have to credit them for turning down the chance to be bought out by Coventry's current owners.

I remember at the time people were up in arms at us missing out on those guys, but what a lucky escape that was. From memory, many directors were for it, but the Dark Lord wouldn't play ball.

Not sure if they judged the bid correctly or were just too incompetent, but what a difference in our two clubs' fortunes.

The Sisu offer was backed by Santys' non-executive directors and then chairman Ken Dulieu (who later turned up as chairman of Coventry City) but I think most of the non-execuive directors opposed it. Leon Crouch certainly did. In a rare showing of solidarity, so did Rupert Lowe and Michal Wilde.
It was an offer from a hedge fund, so it was difficult to see how anybody was going to benefit but the hedge fund owners and those that took the money and did a runner.

[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote:
Who sold him Leon Crouch wasn't it ? No wonder it was a **** up.[/p][/quote]While I agree that the previous owners were a disaster, in hindsight you have to credit them for turning down the chance to be bought out by Coventry's current owners.
I remember at the time people were up in arms at us missing out on those guys, but what a lucky escape that was. From memory, many directors were for it, but the Dark Lord wouldn't play ball.
Not sure if they judged the bid correctly or were just too incompetent, but what a difference in our two clubs' fortunes.[/p][/quote]The Sisu offer was backed by Santys' non-executive directors and then chairman Ken Dulieu (who later turned up as chairman of Coventry City) but I think most of the non-execuive directors opposed it. Leon Crouch certainly did. In a rare showing of solidarity, so did Rupert Lowe and Michal Wilde.
It was an offer from a hedge fund, so it was difficult to see how anybody was going to benefit but the hedge fund owners and those that took the money and did a runner.Dave Juson

Is that a real question about streaming?? That's the fibre optic package isn't it?? One of the quickest Internet connections out, what do you think!? Lol

I have no idea, I am technically ignorant.

I notice a lot of people on here complain about the quality of streaming, some of whom I thought would have BT Infinity. That's why I asked the question. Are there other factors other than the speed of broadband which affect streaming reception. As I said I am technically ignorant.

To be honest george, BT spend massive amounts of money selling you something they can't provide and their customer service is awful. Your connection will depend on peak times etc but also on pop up advertising and active programmes on your pc, after this it will depend on the memory capablity and in some cases the size of your hard drive. My advice is to ask friends how they get on with their service providers and form your own judgement and NEVER listen to the sales patter. For what it's worth, I'm with Sky, have been for many years, never had a single problem, connections and streaming most of the time is instant. Used to be with BT, awful connection, on one occassion I phoned cust. services, they told me i had come through to the wrong number and gave me the correct one, this happened ten times in a row, when I looked down at the list of the numbers I had written down the tenth was the first number I phoned.! Needless to say thats when we parted company.

[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me if we didn't have a sell on clause. I seem to recall we didn't have one for Shearer either when he went to Blackburn and then on to Newcastle.
But I do wonder why we didn't have one with Bale? It does make me think, now why wouldn't we have one. What possible reason could there be for that?
I can't remember who was CEO when Bale went. Was it Crouch or Lowe or Wilde? Or some combination of those three.
Off topic: Does anybody know if BT Infinity improves streaming reception?[/p][/quote]Is that a real question about streaming?? That's the fibre optic package isn't it?? One of the quickest Internet connections out, what do you think!? Lol[/p][/quote]I have no idea, I am technically ignorant.
I notice a lot of people on here complain about the quality of streaming, some of whom I thought would have BT Infinity. That's why I asked the question. Are there other factors other than the speed of broadband which affect streaming reception. As I said I am technically ignorant.[/p][/quote]To be honest george, BT spend massive amounts of money selling you something they can't provide and their customer service is awful. Your connection will depend on peak times etc but also on pop up advertising and active programmes on your pc, after this it will depend on the memory capablity and in some cases the size of your hard drive. My advice is to ask friends how they get on with their service providers and form your own judgement and NEVER listen to the sales patter. For what it's worth, I'm with Sky, have been for many years, never had a single problem, connections and streaming most of the time is instant. Used to be with BT, awful connection, on one occassion I phoned cust. services, they told me i had come through to the wrong number and gave me the correct one, this happened ten times in a row, when I looked down at the list of the numbers I had written down the tenth was the first number I phoned.! Needless to say thats when we parted company.
Hope that helps[/p][/quote]Thanks st1 halo. I've heard similar stories before. Much appreciated. GCgeorge chivers

Out of interest, as sell-on fees seem to be standard practice, surely it should work both ways. I propose the introduction of negative sell-on debits so, if we get ripped off for a player, the selling club takes a percentage of the horrible loses we make. That way Newcastle would be facing a nice hefty bill for Andy Carroll, which is surely only fair. In the spirit of the Bosman ruling, we could call it the 'Delgado rule'.

Out of interest, as sell-on fees seem to be standard practice, surely it should work both ways. I propose the introduction of negative sell-on debits so, if we get ripped off for a player, the selling club takes a percentage of the horrible loses we make. That way Newcastle would be facing a nice hefty bill for Andy Carroll, which is surely only fair. In the spirit of the Bosman ruling, we could call it the 'Delgado rule'.SaintJD

Is that a real question about streaming?? That's the fibre optic package isn't it?? One of the quickest Internet connections out, what do you think!? Lol

I have no idea, I am technically ignorant.

I notice a lot of people on here complain about the quality of streaming, some of whom I thought would have BT Infinity. That's why I asked the question. Are there other factors other than the speed of broadband which affect streaming reception. As I said I am technically ignorant.

To be honest george, BT spend massive amounts of money selling you something they can't provide and their customer service is awful. Your connection will depend on peak times etc but also on pop up advertising and active programmes on your pc, after this it will depend on the memory capablity and in some cases the size of your hard drive. My advice is to ask friends how they get on with their service providers and form your own judgement and NEVER listen to the sales patter. For what it's worth, I'm with Sky, have been for many years, never had a single problem, connections and streaming most of the time is instant. Used to be with BT, awful connection, on one occassion I phoned cust. services, they told me i had come through to the wrong number and gave me the correct one, this happened ten times in a row, when I looked down at the list of the numbers I had written down the tenth was the first number I phoned.! Needless to say thats when we parted company.

another very happy sky customer here. check your current broadband speed as it should give you an idea of what you will be able to do. I get average download speeds of 6.4mbs and I am able to watch good quality streaming video from netfix whilst playing online xbox games with no problems.
I think though you are talking about people posting about watching games steamed live on the web and the poor quality people often moan about, this will not generally be down to your broadband speed unless it is very low speed. it can be due to many things including the upload speeds of the streamed video. you culd get the fastest download speeds possible and the video quality still might not be that good.

back on the subject £2mill will cover 1 players wages of around £38k a week for a year! yes we should have had a sell on clause and kept it if we could however any money is better than nothing.

[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me if we didn't have a sell on clause. I seem to recall we didn't have one for Shearer either when he went to Blackburn and then on to Newcastle.
But I do wonder why we didn't have one with Bale? It does make me think, now why wouldn't we have one. What possible reason could there be for that?
I can't remember who was CEO when Bale went. Was it Crouch or Lowe or Wilde? Or some combination of those three.
Off topic: Does anybody know if BT Infinity improves streaming reception?[/p][/quote]Is that a real question about streaming?? That's the fibre optic package isn't it?? One of the quickest Internet connections out, what do you think!? Lol[/p][/quote]I have no idea, I am technically ignorant.
I notice a lot of people on here complain about the quality of streaming, some of whom I thought would have BT Infinity. That's why I asked the question. Are there other factors other than the speed of broadband which affect streaming reception. As I said I am technically ignorant.[/p][/quote]To be honest george, BT spend massive amounts of money selling you something they can't provide and their customer service is awful. Your connection will depend on peak times etc but also on pop up advertising and active programmes on your pc, after this it will depend on the memory capablity and in some cases the size of your hard drive. My advice is to ask friends how they get on with their service providers and form your own judgement and NEVER listen to the sales patter. For what it's worth, I'm with Sky, have been for many years, never had a single problem, connections and streaming most of the time is instant. Used to be with BT, awful connection, on one occassion I phoned cust. services, they told me i had come through to the wrong number and gave me the correct one, this happened ten times in a row, when I looked down at the list of the numbers I had written down the tenth was the first number I phoned.! Needless to say thats when we parted company.
Hope that helps[/p][/quote]Thanks st1 halo. I've heard similar stories before. Much appreciated. GC[/p][/quote]another very happy sky customer here. check your current broadband speed as it should give you an idea of what you will be able to do. I get average download speeds of 6.4mbs and I am able to watch good quality streaming video from netfix whilst playing online xbox games with no problems.
I think though you are talking about people posting about watching games steamed live on the web and the poor quality people often moan about, this will not generally be down to your broadband speed unless it is very low speed. it can be due to many things including the upload speeds of the streamed video. you culd get the fastest download speeds possible and the video quality still might not be that good.
back on the subject £2mill will cover 1 players wages of around £38k a week for a year! yes we should have had a sell on clause and kept it if we could however any money is better than nothing.el caballo santos101

bigfella777 wrote:
Who sold him Leon Crouch wasn't it ? No wonder it was a **** up.

**** off you knob!

what an utter knob

[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote:
Who sold him Leon Crouch wasn't it ? No wonder it was a **** up.[/p][/quote]**** off you knob![/p][/quote]what an utter knobRudolf Hucker

I am sure £2m could make a massive difference if it's invested in the right area such as additional funds for the clubs academy.

Remember we bought SRL for only £1m.

Whatever happens the club is in good financial hands and NC will find a good home for the money.

I am sure £2m could make a massive difference if it's invested in the right area such as additional funds for the clubs academy.
Remember we bought SRL for only £1m.
Whatever happens the club is in good financial hands and NC will find a good home for the money.notaclue

Everyone is wise after the event. In his early days at Spurs Bale couldn't even get in the side.He is being touted around for stupid money on the back of one good season. I personally think he will struggle to maintain that level , and I also think that his game is based on pace and power.His thigh muscles are huge, and I think he may well pick up a few thigh strains along the way which will affect him long term.
Yes it would have been great to have a 10% sell on clause, but that wouldn't have done us any good if we had gone out of business.

Everyone is wise after the event. In his early days at Spurs Bale couldn't even get in the side.He is being touted around for stupid money on the back of one good season. I personally think he will struggle to maintain that level , and I also think that his game is based on pace and power.His thigh muscles are huge, and I think he may well pick up a few thigh strains along the way which will affect him long term.
Yes it would have been great to have a 10% sell on clause, but that wouldn't have done us any good if we had gone out of business.Redrobbo

Is that a real question about streaming?? That's the fibre optic package isn't it?? One of the quickest Internet connections out, what do you think!? Lol

I have no idea, I am technically ignorant.

I notice a lot of people on here complain about the quality of streaming, some of whom I thought would have BT Infinity. That's why I asked the question. Are there other factors other than the speed of broadband which affect streaming reception. As I said I am technically ignorant.

To be honest george, BT spend massive amounts of money selling you something they can't provide and their customer service is awful. Your connection will depend on peak times etc but also on pop up advertising and active programmes on your pc, after this it will depend on the memory capablity and in some cases the size of your hard drive. My advice is to ask friends how they get on with their service providers and form your own judgement and NEVER listen to the sales patter. For what it's worth, I'm with Sky, have been for many years, never had a single problem, connections and streaming most of the time is instant. Used to be with BT, awful connection, on one occassion I phoned cust. services, they told me i had come through to the wrong number and gave me the correct one, this happened ten times in a row, when I looked down at the list of the numbers I had written down the tenth was the first number I phoned.! Needless to say thats when we parted company.

another very happy sky customer here. check your current broadband speed as it should give you an idea of what you will be able to do. I get average download speeds of 6.4mbs and I am able to watch good quality streaming video from netfix whilst playing online xbox games with no problems.
I think though you are talking about people posting about watching games steamed live on the web and the poor quality people often moan about, this will not generally be down to your broadband speed unless it is very low speed. it can be due to many things including the upload speeds of the streamed video. you culd get the fastest download speeds possible and the video quality still might not be that good.

back on the subject £2mill will cover 1 players wages of around £38k a week for a year! yes we should have had a sell on clause and kept it if we could however any money is better than nothing.

Thanks ecs101. That's what I trying to find out. Much appreciated GC

[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me if we didn't have a sell on clause. I seem to recall we didn't have one for Shearer either when he went to Blackburn and then on to Newcastle.
But I do wonder why we didn't have one with Bale? It does make me think, now why wouldn't we have one. What possible reason could there be for that?
I can't remember who was CEO when Bale went. Was it Crouch or Lowe or Wilde? Or some combination of those three.
Off topic: Does anybody know if BT Infinity improves streaming reception?[/p][/quote]Is that a real question about streaming?? That's the fibre optic package isn't it?? One of the quickest Internet connections out, what do you think!? Lol[/p][/quote]I have no idea, I am technically ignorant.
I notice a lot of people on here complain about the quality of streaming, some of whom I thought would have BT Infinity. That's why I asked the question. Are there other factors other than the speed of broadband which affect streaming reception. As I said I am technically ignorant.[/p][/quote]To be honest george, BT spend massive amounts of money selling you something they can't provide and their customer service is awful. Your connection will depend on peak times etc but also on pop up advertising and active programmes on your pc, after this it will depend on the memory capablity and in some cases the size of your hard drive. My advice is to ask friends how they get on with their service providers and form your own judgement and NEVER listen to the sales patter. For what it's worth, I'm with Sky, have been for many years, never had a single problem, connections and streaming most of the time is instant. Used to be with BT, awful connection, on one occassion I phoned cust. services, they told me i had come through to the wrong number and gave me the correct one, this happened ten times in a row, when I looked down at the list of the numbers I had written down the tenth was the first number I phoned.! Needless to say thats when we parted company.
Hope that helps[/p][/quote]Thanks st1 halo. I've heard similar stories before. Much appreciated. GC[/p][/quote]another very happy sky customer here. check your current broadband speed as it should give you an idea of what you will be able to do. I get average download speeds of 6.4mbs and I am able to watch good quality streaming video from netfix whilst playing online xbox games with no problems.
I think though you are talking about people posting about watching games steamed live on the web and the poor quality people often moan about, this will not generally be down to your broadband speed unless it is very low speed. it can be due to many things including the upload speeds of the streamed video. you culd get the fastest download speeds possible and the video quality still might not be that good.
back on the subject £2mill will cover 1 players wages of around £38k a week for a year! yes we should have had a sell on clause and kept it if we could however any money is better than nothing.[/p][/quote]Thanks ecs101. That's what I trying to find out. Much appreciated GCgeorge chivers

According to Sky we had a 25% sell on clause which when we had financial probelms we agreed to take £3Million plus Tommy Forecast! Apparently we are entitled to 5% "training fees" if Bale is sold.

According to Sky we had a 25% sell on clause which when we had financial probelms we agreed to take £3Million plus Tommy Forecast! Apparently we are entitled to 5% "training fees" if Bale is sold.denniss

denniss wrote:
According to Sky we had a 25% sell on clause which when we had financial probelms we agreed to take £3Million plus Tommy Forecast! Apparently we are entitled to 5% &quot;training fees" if Bale is sold.

This 5% is divided between Saints and Spurs until Bale was 23

[quote][p][bold]denniss[/bold] wrote:
According to Sky we had a 25% sell on clause which when we had financial probelms we agreed to take £3Million plus Tommy Forecast! Apparently we are entitled to 5% "training fees" if Bale is sold.[/p][/quote]This 5% is divided between Saints and Spurs until Bale was 23legod7

classof'77 wrote:
Personally I find it absolutely incredible if no sell-on clause was incorporated in the case of a player who obviously had such great potential, Accepting a buy-out in straitened financial circumstances is more understandable, but it depends on what the buy-out figure was. But in general a sell-on clause for any decent academy product ought surely to be regarded as mandatory: why should the 'big clubs' be the ones to profit so much from the work of our academy?

It was incorporated but written off in exchange for some up front cash when we were on the brink of going bust - same for walcott.

We have the same problem with our 'News' in Portsmouth. I think sometimes they just like to fill space on their web page.

I hope The Saints do get a cut of the sell on fee if he goes, it's only fair due. As has been said before I find it strange that a player with such obvious potential was sold without a sell on clause being included.

That said, I can't wait for the new season. Bring on the results. Best wishes to The Saints, I really do hope you maintain your presence in The Premier League this season. Go from strength to strength and keep a team from Hampshire in the top divisions.

I'll be watching your results and wishing you all the best!

How nice it is to read a post from a Pompey fan that displays intelligence.
This is a rare occurence based on the usual drivel that majority that come on here, come out with.
We will no doupt, be interested in Pompeys fortunes.
COYS.

[quote][p][bold]Pompey1898[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]mattboy111[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]classof'77[/bold] wrote:
Personally I find it absolutely incredible if no sell-on clause was incorporated in the case of a player who obviously had such great potential, Accepting a buy-out in straitened financial circumstances is more understandable, but it depends on what the buy-out figure was. But in general a sell-on clause for any decent academy product ought surely to be regarded as mandatory: why should the 'big clubs' be the ones to profit so much from the work of our academy?[/p][/quote]It was incorporated but written off in exchange for some up front cash when we were on the brink of going bust - same for walcott.[/p][/quote]We have the same problem with our 'News' in Portsmouth. I think sometimes they just like to fill space on their web page.
I hope The Saints do get a cut of the sell on fee if he goes, it's only fair due. As has been said before I find it strange that a player with such obvious potential was sold without a sell on clause being included.
That said, I can't wait for the new season. Bring on the results. Best wishes to The Saints, I really do hope you maintain your presence in The Premier League this season. Go from strength to strength and keep a team from Hampshire in the top divisions.
I'll be watching your results and wishing you all the best![/p][/quote]How nice it is to read a post from a Pompey fan that displays intelligence.
This is a rare occurence based on the usual drivel that majority that come on here, come out with.
We will no doupt, be interested in Pompeys fortunes.
COYS.SFCOLDBOY

Redrobbo wrote:
Everyone is wise after the event. In his early days at Spurs Bale couldn't even get in the side.He is being touted around for stupid money on the back of one good season. I personally think he will struggle to maintain that level , and I also think that his game is based on pace and power.His thigh muscles are huge, and I think he may well pick up a few thigh strains along the way which will affect him long term.
Yes it would have been great to have a 10% sell on clause, but that wouldn't have done us any good if we had gone out of business.

Good point on the going out of business bit. Have to disagree on the idea he will struggle to maintain that level though and to say it is only based on pace and power is not quite right (if that were the case can we have £85 million for Steve De Ridder please?).

I think Gareth is absolute class and has been consistently for several seasons. Add to that the fact that he's played in three different positions and mastered all of them and I think he's been sensational - something we should be proud of.

Basically, he's been unplayable and I can count four points, possibly six, he earned Spurs single handedly from our two fixtures alone. Agree his style makes injuries likely, but Spurs played him into the ground in the past two seasons and I'm astonished he stayed as fit as he did.

[quote][p][bold]Redrobbo[/bold] wrote:
Everyone is wise after the event. In his early days at Spurs Bale couldn't even get in the side.He is being touted around for stupid money on the back of one good season. I personally think he will struggle to maintain that level , and I also think that his game is based on pace and power.His thigh muscles are huge, and I think he may well pick up a few thigh strains along the way which will affect him long term.
Yes it would have been great to have a 10% sell on clause, but that wouldn't have done us any good if we had gone out of business.[/p][/quote]Good point on the going out of business bit. Have to disagree on the idea he will struggle to maintain that level though and to say it is only based on pace and power is not quite right (if that were the case can we have £85 million for Steve De Ridder please?).
I think Gareth is absolute class and has been consistently for several seasons. Add to that the fact that he's played in three different positions and mastered all of them and I think he's been sensational - something we should be proud of.
Basically, he's been unplayable and I can count four points, possibly six, he earned Spurs single handedly from our two fixtures alone. Agree his style makes injuries likely, but Spurs played him into the ground in the past two seasons and I'm astonished he stayed as fit as he did.SaintJD

denniss wrote:
According to Sky we had a 25% sell on clause which when we had financial probelms we agreed to take £3Million plus Tommy Forecast! Apparently we are entitled to 5% &quot;training fees" if Bale is sold.

This 5% is divided between Saints and Spurs until Bale was 23

More importantly, did Spurs include a sell-on clause for Tommy Forecast?

[quote][p][bold]legod7[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]denniss[/bold] wrote:
According to Sky we had a 25% sell on clause which when we had financial probelms we agreed to take £3Million plus Tommy Forecast! Apparently we are entitled to 5% "training fees" if Bale is sold.[/p][/quote]This 5% is divided between Saints and Spurs until Bale was 23[/p][/quote]More importantly, did Spurs include a sell-on clause for Tommy Forecast?SaintJD

classof'77 wrote:
Personally I find it absolutely incredible if no sell-on clause was incorporated in the case of a player who obviously had such great potential, Accepting a buy-out in straitened financial circumstances is more understandable, but it depends on what the buy-out figure was. But in general a sell-on clause for any decent academy product ought surely to be regarded as mandatory: why should the 'big clubs' be the ones to profit so much from the work of our academy?

It was incorporated but written off in exchange for some up front cash when we were on the brink of going bust - same for walcott.

We have the same problem with our 'News' in Portsmouth. I think sometimes they just like to fill space on their web page.

I hope The Saints do get a cut of the sell on fee if he goes, it's only fair due. As has been said before I find it strange that a player with such obvious potential was sold without a sell on clause being included.

That said, I can't wait for the new season. Bring on the results. Best wishes to The Saints, I really do hope you maintain your presence in The Premier League this season. Go from strength to strength and keep a team from Hampshire in the top divisions.

I'll be watching your results and wishing you all the best!

Thanks.

+ I hope you will make it back up to the EPL so we can play some more local derby's.

I do miss the build up to them days!

[quote][p][bold]Pompey1898[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]mattboy111[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]classof'77[/bold] wrote:
Personally I find it absolutely incredible if no sell-on clause was incorporated in the case of a player who obviously had such great potential, Accepting a buy-out in straitened financial circumstances is more understandable, but it depends on what the buy-out figure was. But in general a sell-on clause for any decent academy product ought surely to be regarded as mandatory: why should the 'big clubs' be the ones to profit so much from the work of our academy?[/p][/quote]It was incorporated but written off in exchange for some up front cash when we were on the brink of going bust - same for walcott.[/p][/quote]We have the same problem with our 'News' in Portsmouth. I think sometimes they just like to fill space on their web page.
I hope The Saints do get a cut of the sell on fee if he goes, it's only fair due. As has been said before I find it strange that a player with such obvious potential was sold without a sell on clause being included.
That said, I can't wait for the new season. Bring on the results. Best wishes to The Saints, I really do hope you maintain your presence in The Premier League this season. Go from strength to strength and keep a team from Hampshire in the top divisions.
I'll be watching your results and wishing you all the best![/p][/quote]Thanks.
+ I hope you will make it back up to the EPL so we can play some more local derby's.
I do miss the build up to them days!oh when the saints

Is that a real question about streaming?? That's the fibre optic package isn't it?? One of the quickest Internet connections out, what do you think!? Lol

I have no idea, I am technically ignorant.

I notice a lot of people on here complain about the quality of streaming, some of whom I thought would have BT Infinity. That's why I asked the question. Are there other factors other than the speed of broadband which affect streaming reception. As I said I am technically ignorant.

when your wife & 2 daughters are also on the net that slows down infinity, trust me!

[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me if we didn't have a sell on clause. I seem to recall we didn't have one for Shearer either when he went to Blackburn and then on to Newcastle.
But I do wonder why we didn't have one with Bale? It does make me think, now why wouldn't we have one. What possible reason could there be for that?
I can't remember who was CEO when Bale went. Was it Crouch or Lowe or Wilde? Or some combination of those three.
Off topic: Does anybody know if BT Infinity improves streaming reception?[/p][/quote]Is that a real question about streaming?? That's the fibre optic package isn't it?? One of the quickest Internet connections out, what do you think!? Lol[/p][/quote]I have no idea, I am technically ignorant.
I notice a lot of people on here complain about the quality of streaming, some of whom I thought would have BT Infinity. That's why I asked the question. Are there other factors other than the speed of broadband which affect streaming reception. As I said I am technically ignorant.[/p][/quote]when your wife & 2 daughters are also on the net that slows down infinity, trust me!worried of n e hampshire

Isn't it nice, as we look back thinking "What tw@ts we used to be", that none of us can imagine Nicola Cortese selling one of our brightest prosects without a sell-on clause. In fact, I can't even imagine him selling one at all, now that we're in the Premier League.

Isn't it nice, as we look back thinking "What tw@ts we used to be", that none of us can imagine Nicola Cortese selling one of our brightest prosects without a sell-on clause. In fact, I can't even imagine him selling one at all, now that we're in the Premier League.St Retford

Is that a real question about streaming?? That's the fibre optic package isn't it?? One of the quickest Internet connections out, what do you think!? Lol

I have no idea, I am technically ignorant.

I notice a lot of people on here complain about the quality of streaming, some of whom I thought would have BT Infinity. That's why I asked the question. Are there other factors other than the speed of broadband which affect streaming reception. As I said I am technically ignorant.

when your wife &amp; 2 daughters are also on the net that slows down infinity, trust me!

I do wneh.

[quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me if we didn't have a sell on clause. I seem to recall we didn't have one for Shearer either when he went to Blackburn and then on to Newcastle.
But I do wonder why we didn't have one with Bale? It does make me think, now why wouldn't we have one. What possible reason could there be for that?
I can't remember who was CEO when Bale went. Was it Crouch or Lowe or Wilde? Or some combination of those three.
Off topic: Does anybody know if BT Infinity improves streaming reception?[/p][/quote]Is that a real question about streaming?? That's the fibre optic package isn't it?? One of the quickest Internet connections out, what do you think!? Lol[/p][/quote]I have no idea, I am technically ignorant.
I notice a lot of people on here complain about the quality of streaming, some of whom I thought would have BT Infinity. That's why I asked the question. Are there other factors other than the speed of broadband which affect streaming reception. As I said I am technically ignorant.[/p][/quote]when your wife & 2 daughters are also on the net that slows down infinity, trust me![/p][/quote]I do wneh.george chivers

classof'77 wrote:
Personally I find it absolutely incredible if no sell-on clause was incorporated in the case of a player who obviously had such great potential, Accepting a buy-out in straitened financial circumstances is more understandable, but it depends on what the buy-out figure was. But in general a sell-on clause for any decent academy product ought surely to be regarded as mandatory: why should the 'big clubs' be the ones to profit so much from the work of our academy?

It was incorporated but written off in exchange for some up front cash when we were on the brink of going bust - same for walcott.

We have the same problem with our 'News' in Portsmouth. I think sometimes they just like to fill space on their web page.

I hope The Saints do get a cut of the sell on fee if he goes, it's only fair due. As has been said before I find it strange that a player with such obvious potential was sold without a sell on clause being included.

That said, I can't wait for the new season. Bring on the results. Best wishes to The Saints, I really do hope you maintain your presence in The Premier League this season. Go from strength to strength and keep a team from Hampshire in the top divisions.

I'll be watching your results and wishing you all the best!

How nice it is to read a post from a Pompey fan that displays intelligence.
This is a rare occurence based on the usual drivel that majority that come on here, come out with.
We will no doupt, be interested in Pompeys fortunes.
COYS.

Personally I've always wanted to see Plymouth, Exeter, Bournemouth, Saints, Pompey, Brighton, Worthing and Maidstone fighting it out for the Champion's League spots every year - it's a dream, but it's mine! Saints of course taking the higher percentage of titles.

But it takes a few years of losing to appreciate success when it comes along - look at England v Aussies in the ashes, not so long ago we were bashed year-on-year. And, just like Saints three years ago, for Pompey there's only one way to go, and that's up. It's pointless having a main rival that we never get to play!

Oh, and £2 million - I'll have it :-)

[quote][p][bold]SFCOLDBOY[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Pompey1898[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]mattboy111[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]classof'77[/bold] wrote:
Personally I find it absolutely incredible if no sell-on clause was incorporated in the case of a player who obviously had such great potential, Accepting a buy-out in straitened financial circumstances is more understandable, but it depends on what the buy-out figure was. But in general a sell-on clause for any decent academy product ought surely to be regarded as mandatory: why should the 'big clubs' be the ones to profit so much from the work of our academy?[/p][/quote]It was incorporated but written off in exchange for some up front cash when we were on the brink of going bust - same for walcott.[/p][/quote]We have the same problem with our 'News' in Portsmouth. I think sometimes they just like to fill space on their web page.
I hope The Saints do get a cut of the sell on fee if he goes, it's only fair due. As has been said before I find it strange that a player with such obvious potential was sold without a sell on clause being included.
That said, I can't wait for the new season. Bring on the results. Best wishes to The Saints, I really do hope you maintain your presence in The Premier League this season. Go from strength to strength and keep a team from Hampshire in the top divisions.
I'll be watching your results and wishing you all the best![/p][/quote]How nice it is to read a post from a Pompey fan that displays intelligence.
This is a rare occurence based on the usual drivel that majority that come on here, come out with.
We will no doupt, be interested in Pompeys fortunes.
COYS.[/p][/quote]Personally I've always wanted to see Plymouth, Exeter, Bournemouth, Saints, Pompey, Brighton, Worthing and Maidstone fighting it out for the Champion's League spots every year - it's a dream, but it's mine! Saints of course taking the higher percentage of titles.
But it takes a few years of losing to appreciate success when it comes along - look at England v Aussies in the ashes, not so long ago we were bashed year-on-year. And, just like Saints three years ago, for Pompey there's only one way to go, and that's up. It's pointless having a main rival that we never get to play!
Oh, and £2 million - I'll have it :-)EricMartin'sHat

Redrobbo wrote:
Everyone is wise after the event. In his early days at Spurs Bale couldn't even get in the side.He is being touted around for stupid money on the back of one good season. I personally think he will struggle to maintain that level , and I also think that his game is based on pace and power.His thigh muscles are huge, and I think he may well pick up a few thigh strains along the way which will affect him long term.
Yes it would have been great to have a 10% sell on clause, but that wouldn't have done us any good if we had gone out of business.

Totally agree with you Redrobbo.
Bale is a great player, and I think we had an idea that he might end up as one.
When he left us, he was very young, and as you say not ready for their team.
If you look at his stats, it's only last 3 years he's really been up there, and even then, only 11 or 12goals a season in the previous two, and then one great season last year.
For Spurs, now must be the time to sell.
He won't ever be worth more than now IMO.
His game is very much pace/power as you say, and I can't see that he'll be getting any quicker as he gets to his late 20's, so physically he's probably in his prime now, and that is without the potential he could get a bad knee/ankle injury, or thigh probs, or a broken leg,which would shave some of his speed.
Good luck to him though-he is a quality player, and I would love to see more British players go and test themselves in a harder environment..

[quote][p][bold]Redrobbo[/bold] wrote:
Everyone is wise after the event. In his early days at Spurs Bale couldn't even get in the side.He is being touted around for stupid money on the back of one good season. I personally think he will struggle to maintain that level , and I also think that his game is based on pace and power.His thigh muscles are huge, and I think he may well pick up a few thigh strains along the way which will affect him long term.
Yes it would have been great to have a 10% sell on clause, but that wouldn't have done us any good if we had gone out of business.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with you Redrobbo.
Bale is a great player, and I think we had an idea that he might end up as one.
When he left us, he was very young, and as you say not ready for their team.
If you look at his stats, it's only last 3 years he's really been up there, and even then, only 11 or 12goals a season in the previous two, and then one great season last year.
For Spurs, now must be the time to sell.
He won't ever be worth more than now IMO.
His game is very much pace/power as you say, and I can't see that he'll be getting any quicker as he gets to his late 20's, so physically he's probably in his prime now, and that is without the potential he could get a bad knee/ankle injury, or thigh probs, or a broken leg,which would shave some of his speed.
Good luck to him though-he is a quality player, and I would love to see more British players go and test themselves in a harder environment..BracknellSaint

Redrobbo wrote:
Everyone is wise after the event. In his early days at Spurs Bale couldn't even get in the side.He is being touted around for stupid money on the back of one good season. I personally think he will struggle to maintain that level , and I also think that his game is based on pace and power.His thigh muscles are huge, and I think he may well pick up a few thigh strains along the way which will affect him long term.
Yes it would have been great to have a 10% sell on clause, but that wouldn't have done us any good if we had gone out of business.

Totally agree with you Redrobbo.
Bale is a great player, and I think we had an idea that he might end up as one.
When he left us, he was very young, and as you say not ready for their team.
If you look at his stats, it's only last 3 years he's really been up there, and even then, only 11 or 12goals a season in the previous two, and then one great season last year.
For Spurs, now must be the time to sell.
He won't ever be worth more than now IMO.
His game is very much pace/power as you say, and I can't see that he'll be getting any quicker as he gets to his late 20's, so physically he's probably in his prime now, and that is without the potential he could get a bad knee/ankle injury, or thigh probs, or a broken leg,which would shave some of his speed.
Good luck to him though-he is a quality player, and I would love to see more British players go and test themselves in a harder environment..

OK £85 million is a lot, granted, but I think he's been as consistently good as Ronaldo was when he was signed by Madrid. You can speculate on injuries and longevity with any player, but his goal record is outstanding and the majority of those were from quarter-chances at best. Plus he's more flexible than Ronaldo as he has shown he is perhaps even more effective in a freer, more central role. He scored a hat-trick against Inter in the Champions League and made one of the best defenders in the world at the time look like a fool. Agree though, it is time for them to sell and time for him to move. You often only get one chance at this kind of move.

I think he'll flourish in Spain - was at the Nou Camp to see Ronaldo leave Puyol on his @rse and to be honest I don't think some of the La Liga defenders will know what's hit them.

[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Redrobbo[/bold] wrote:
Everyone is wise after the event. In his early days at Spurs Bale couldn't even get in the side.He is being touted around for stupid money on the back of one good season. I personally think he will struggle to maintain that level , and I also think that his game is based on pace and power.His thigh muscles are huge, and I think he may well pick up a few thigh strains along the way which will affect him long term.
Yes it would have been great to have a 10% sell on clause, but that wouldn't have done us any good if we had gone out of business.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with you Redrobbo.
Bale is a great player, and I think we had an idea that he might end up as one.
When he left us, he was very young, and as you say not ready for their team.
If you look at his stats, it's only last 3 years he's really been up there, and even then, only 11 or 12goals a season in the previous two, and then one great season last year.
For Spurs, now must be the time to sell.
He won't ever be worth more than now IMO.
His game is very much pace/power as you say, and I can't see that he'll be getting any quicker as he gets to his late 20's, so physically he's probably in his prime now, and that is without the potential he could get a bad knee/ankle injury, or thigh probs, or a broken leg,which would shave some of his speed.
Good luck to him though-he is a quality player, and I would love to see more British players go and test themselves in a harder environment..[/p][/quote]OK £85 million is a lot, granted, but I think he's been as consistently good as Ronaldo was when he was signed by Madrid. You can speculate on injuries and longevity with any player, but his goal record is outstanding and the majority of those were from quarter-chances at best. Plus he's more flexible than Ronaldo as he has shown he is perhaps even more effective in a freer, more central role. He scored a hat-trick against Inter in the Champions League and made one of the best defenders in the world at the time look like a fool. Agree though, it is time for them to sell and time for him to move. You often only get one chance at this kind of move.
I think he'll flourish in Spain - was at the Nou Camp to see Ronaldo leave Puyol on his @rse and to be honest I don't think some of the La Liga defenders will know what's hit them.SaintJD

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Where is Osprey?Is he on holiday,or should someone go round and knock on his door,to see if he's alright?

I've heard the police are in the process of digging up Confucious's patio as we speak. Apparently Teboura's gone missing too and it's all getting a bit 'Fred West'.

[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote:
Where is Osprey?Is he on holiday,or should someone go round and knock on his door,to see if he's alright?[/p][/quote]I've heard the police are in the process of digging up Confucious's patio as we speak. Apparently Teboura's gone missing too and it's all getting a bit 'Fred West'.SaintJD

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Where is Osprey?Is he on holiday,or should someone go round and knock on his door,to see if he's alright?

I've heard the police are in the process of digging up Confucious's patio as we speak. Apparently Teboura's gone missing too and it's all getting a bit 'Fred West'.

Oh,that's alright then..I was getting a bit worried .

[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote:
Where is Osprey?Is he on holiday,or should someone go round and knock on his door,to see if he's alright?[/p][/quote]I've heard the police are in the process of digging up Confucious's patio as we speak. Apparently Teboura's gone missing too and it's all getting a bit 'Fred West'.[/p][/quote]Oh,that's alright then..I was getting a bit worried .Positively4thStreet

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Where is Osprey?Is he on holiday,or should someone go round and knock on his door,to see if he's alright?

I've heard the police are in the process of digging up Confucious's patio as we speak. Apparently Teboura's gone missing too and it's all getting a bit 'Fred West'.

Oh,that's alright then..I was getting a bit worried .

Dunno about Osprey but the skates and the WUMs have gone missing to spite me. Rather than do any ineffective "ssshhhuuuushhh" stuff I was going to post things like "Spot on", "Couldn't agree more" and "Post of the year" against their posts.

Now that would really spoil it for them, especially if we all did it - and that of course was my aim. Do not think for one second that my true aim is to reach the magic and historic -100 score before anyone else. Slugger was trying last night but he can't hold a candle to me in the disliked posts league.

[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote:
Where is Osprey?Is he on holiday,or should someone go round and knock on his door,to see if he's alright?[/p][/quote]I've heard the police are in the process of digging up Confucious's patio as we speak. Apparently Teboura's gone missing too and it's all getting a bit 'Fred West'.[/p][/quote]Oh,that's alright then..I was getting a bit worried .[/p][/quote]Dunno about Osprey but the skates and the WUMs have gone missing to spite me. Rather than do any ineffective "ssshhhuuuushhh" stuff I was going to post things like "Spot on", "Couldn't agree more" and "Post of the year" against their posts.
Now that would really spoil it for them, especially if we all did it - and that of course was my aim. Do not think for one second that my true aim is to reach the magic and historic -100 score before anyone else. Slugger was trying last night but he can't hold a candle to me in the disliked posts league.Confucious

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Where is Osprey?Is he on holiday,or should someone go round and knock on his door,to see if he's alright?

I've heard the police are in the process of digging up Confucious's patio as we speak. Apparently Teboura's gone missing too and it's all getting a bit 'Fred West'.

Oh,that's alright then..I was getting a bit worried .

Dunno about Osprey but the skates and the WUMs have gone missing to spite me. Rather than do any ineffective &quot;ssshhhuuuushhh
" stuff I was going to post things like "Spot on", "Couldn't agree more" and "Post of the year" against their posts.

Now that would really spoil it for them, especially if we all did it - and that of course was my aim. Do not think for one second that my true aim is to reach the magic and historic -100 score before anyone else. Slugger was trying last night but he can't hold a candle to me in the disliked posts league.

You are right,I thought it was my imagination,but the whole dynamic of the threads has changed since the introduction of the thumbs up thumbs down system.
Have the plod replaced your patio slabs properly though?

[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote:
Where is Osprey?Is he on holiday,or should someone go round and knock on his door,to see if he's alright?[/p][/quote]I've heard the police are in the process of digging up Confucious's patio as we speak. Apparently Teboura's gone missing too and it's all getting a bit 'Fred West'.[/p][/quote]Oh,that's alright then..I was getting a bit worried .[/p][/quote]Dunno about Osprey but the skates and the WUMs have gone missing to spite me. Rather than do any ineffective "ssshhhuuuushhh
" stuff I was going to post things like "Spot on", "Couldn't agree more" and "Post of the year" against their posts.
Now that would really spoil it for them, especially if we all did it - and that of course was my aim. Do not think for one second that my true aim is to reach the magic and historic -100 score before anyone else. Slugger was trying last night but he can't hold a candle to me in the disliked posts league.[/p][/quote]You are right,I thought it was my imagination,but the whole dynamic of the threads has changed since the introduction of the thumbs up thumbs down system.
Have the plod replaced your patio slabs properly though?Positively4thStreet

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Where is Osprey?Is he on holiday,or should someone go round and knock on his door,to see if he's alright?

I've heard the police are in the process of digging up Confucious's patio as we speak. Apparently Teboura's gone missing too and it's all getting a bit 'Fred West'.

Oh,that's alright then..I was getting a bit worried .

Dunno about Osprey but the skates and the WUMs have gone missing to spite me. Rather than do any ineffective &quot;ssshhhuuuushhh

" stuff I was going to post things like "Spot on", "Couldn't agree more" and "Post of the year" against their posts.

Now that would really spoil it for them, especially if we all did it - and that of course was my aim. Do not think for one second that my true aim is to reach the magic and historic -100 score before anyone else. Slugger was trying last night but he can't hold a candle to me in the disliked posts league.

You are right,I thought it was my imagination,but the whole dynamic of the threads has changed since the introduction of the thumbs up thumbs down system.
Have the plod replaced your patio slabs properly though?

Mate... he's posting that from the scrubs. Confucious finally snapped and did for all of the Trolls. two were under the patio, one was buried in the coalshed except for the buttocks which he was using as a place to park the front wheel of his bike. the final Troll they found had been cunningly disguised as a conversation piece in the chill-out area of his gardens. (the slowly revolving foot sticking out of the shrubbery gave it away)

the Police and the courts are currently meeting to decide if it's murder or if Confucious should receive some sort of medal for improving the gene pool slightly.

[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote:
Where is Osprey?Is he on holiday,or should someone go round and knock on his door,to see if he's alright?[/p][/quote]I've heard the police are in the process of digging up Confucious's patio as we speak. Apparently Teboura's gone missing too and it's all getting a bit 'Fred West'.[/p][/quote]Oh,that's alright then..I was getting a bit worried .[/p][/quote]Dunno about Osprey but the skates and the WUMs have gone missing to spite me. Rather than do any ineffective "ssshhhuuuushhh
" stuff I was going to post things like "Spot on", "Couldn't agree more" and "Post of the year" against their posts.
Now that would really spoil it for them, especially if we all did it - and that of course was my aim. Do not think for one second that my true aim is to reach the magic and historic -100 score before anyone else. Slugger was trying last night but he can't hold a candle to me in the disliked posts league.[/p][/quote]You are right,I thought it was my imagination,but the whole dynamic of the threads has changed since the introduction of the thumbs up thumbs down system.
Have the plod replaced your patio slabs properly though?[/p][/quote]Mate... he's posting that from the scrubs. Confucious finally snapped and did for all of the Trolls. two were under the patio, one was buried in the coalshed except for the buttocks which he was using as a place to park the front wheel of his bike. the final Troll they found had been cunningly disguised as a conversation piece in the chill-out area of his gardens. (the slowly revolving foot sticking out of the shrubbery gave it away)
the Police and the courts are currently meeting to decide if it's murder or if Confucious should receive some sort of medal for improving the gene pool slightly.Stroppy_gramps

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Where is Osprey?Is he on holiday,or should someone go round and knock on his door,to see if he's alright?

I've heard the police are in the process of digging up Confucious's patio as we speak. Apparently Teboura's gone missing too and it's all getting a bit 'Fred West'.

Oh,that's alright then..I was getting a bit worried .

Dunno about Osprey but the skates and the WUMs have gone missing to spite me. Rather than do any ineffective &quot;ssshhhuuuushhh

" stuff I was going to post things like "Spot on", "Couldn't agree more" and "Post of the year" against their posts.

Now that would really spoil it for them, especially if we all did it - and that of course was my aim. Do not think for one second that my true aim is to reach the magic and historic -100 score before anyone else. Slugger was trying last night but he can't hold a candle to me in the disliked posts league.

You are right,I thought it was my imagination,but the whole dynamic of the threads has changed since the introduction of the thumbs up thumbs down system.
Have the plod replaced your patio slabs properly though?

Mate... he's posting that from the scrubs. Confucious finally snapped and did for all of the Trolls. two were under the patio, one was buried in the coalshed except for the buttocks which he was using as a place to park the front wheel of his bike. the final Troll they found had been cunningly disguised as a conversation piece in the chill-out area of his gardens. (the slowly revolving foot sticking out of the shrubbery gave it away)

the Police and the courts are currently meeting to decide if it's murder or if Confucious should receive some sort of medal for improving the gene pool slightly.

Aah..that explains the mystery of the missing trolls and wums then!
CONFUCIOUS IS INNOCENT!!

[quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote:
Where is Osprey?Is he on holiday,or should someone go round and knock on his door,to see if he's alright?[/p][/quote]I've heard the police are in the process of digging up Confucious's patio as we speak. Apparently Teboura's gone missing too and it's all getting a bit 'Fred West'.[/p][/quote]Oh,that's alright then..I was getting a bit worried .[/p][/quote]Dunno about Osprey but the skates and the WUMs have gone missing to spite me. Rather than do any ineffective "ssshhhuuuushhh
" stuff I was going to post things like "Spot on", "Couldn't agree more" and "Post of the year" against their posts.
Now that would really spoil it for them, especially if we all did it - and that of course was my aim. Do not think for one second that my true aim is to reach the magic and historic -100 score before anyone else. Slugger was trying last night but he can't hold a candle to me in the disliked posts league.[/p][/quote]You are right,I thought it was my imagination,but the whole dynamic of the threads has changed since the introduction of the thumbs up thumbs down system.
Have the plod replaced your patio slabs properly though?[/p][/quote]Mate... he's posting that from the scrubs. Confucious finally snapped and did for all of the Trolls. two were under the patio, one was buried in the coalshed except for the buttocks which he was using as a place to park the front wheel of his bike. the final Troll they found had been cunningly disguised as a conversation piece in the chill-out area of his gardens. (the slowly revolving foot sticking out of the shrubbery gave it away)
the Police and the courts are currently meeting to decide if it's murder or if Confucious should receive some sort of medal for improving the gene pool slightly.[/p][/quote]Aah..that explains the mystery of the missing trolls and wums then!
CONFUCIOUS IS INNOCENT!!Positively4thStreet

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We played a vital role in the development of Bale and for us to only get £2 mill out of £85 mill pot is unforgivable. Those Londoners saw us coming!

I bet "ARRY" will get a bigger cut than us, and put it in his off shore bank account, with the help of his little Doggy....

[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote:
We played a vital role in the development of Bale and for us to only get £2 mill out of £85 mill pot is unforgivable. Those Londoners saw us coming![/p][/quote]I bet "ARRY" will get a bigger cut than us, and put it in his off shore bank account, with the help of his little Doggy....Rocket 1

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Where is Osprey?Is he on holiday,or should someone go round and knock on his door,to see if he's alright?

I've heard the police are in the process of digging up Confucious's patio as we speak. Apparently Teboura's gone missing too and it's all getting a bit 'Fred West'.

Oh,that's alright then..I was getting a bit worried .

Dunno about Osprey but the skates and the WUMs have gone missing to spite me. Rather than do any ineffective &quot;ssshhhuuuushhh

" stuff I was going to post things like "Spot on", "Couldn't agree more" and "Post of the year" against their posts.

Now that would really spoil it for them, especially if we all did it - and that of course was my aim. Do not think for one second that my true aim is to reach the magic and historic -100 score before anyone else. Slugger was trying last night but he can't hold a candle to me in the disliked posts league.

You are right,I thought it was my imagination,but the whole dynamic of the threads has changed since the introduction of the thumbs up thumbs down system.
Have the plod replaced your patio slabs properly though?

Mate... he's posting that from the scrubs. Confucious finally snapped and did for all of the Trolls. two were under the patio, one was buried in the coalshed except for the buttocks which he was using as a place to park the front wheel of his bike. the final Troll they found had been cunningly disguised as a conversation piece in the chill-out area of his gardens. (the slowly revolving foot sticking out of the shrubbery gave it away)

the Police and the courts are currently meeting to decide if it's murder or if Confucious should receive some sort of medal for improving the gene pool slightly.

Aah..that explains the mystery of the missing trolls and wums then!
CONFUCIOUS IS INNOCENT!!

Do they still wear stripes in prison Confucious?

[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote:
Where is Osprey?Is he on holiday,or should someone go round and knock on his door,to see if he's alright?[/p][/quote]I've heard the police are in the process of digging up Confucious's patio as we speak. Apparently Teboura's gone missing too and it's all getting a bit 'Fred West'.[/p][/quote]Oh,that's alright then..I was getting a bit worried .[/p][/quote]Dunno about Osprey but the skates and the WUMs have gone missing to spite me. Rather than do any ineffective "ssshhhuuuushhh
" stuff I was going to post things like "Spot on", "Couldn't agree more" and "Post of the year" against their posts.
Now that would really spoil it for them, especially if we all did it - and that of course was my aim. Do not think for one second that my true aim is to reach the magic and historic -100 score before anyone else. Slugger was trying last night but he can't hold a candle to me in the disliked posts league.[/p][/quote]You are right,I thought it was my imagination,but the whole dynamic of the threads has changed since the introduction of the thumbs up thumbs down system.
Have the plod replaced your patio slabs properly though?[/p][/quote]Mate... he's posting that from the scrubs. Confucious finally snapped and did for all of the Trolls. two were under the patio, one was buried in the coalshed except for the buttocks which he was using as a place to park the front wheel of his bike. the final Troll they found had been cunningly disguised as a conversation piece in the chill-out area of his gardens. (the slowly revolving foot sticking out of the shrubbery gave it away)
the Police and the courts are currently meeting to decide if it's murder or if Confucious should receive some sort of medal for improving the gene pool slightly.[/p][/quote]Aah..that explains the mystery of the missing trolls and wums then!
CONFUCIOUS IS INNOCENT!![/p][/quote]Do they still wear stripes in prison Confucious?SaintJD

classof'77 wrote:
Personally I find it absolutely incredible if no sell-on clause was incorporated in the case of a player who obviously had such great potential, Accepting a buy-out in straitened financial circumstances is more understandable, but it depends on what the buy-out figure was. But in general a sell-on clause for any decent academy product ought surely to be regarded as mandatory: why should the 'big clubs' be the ones to profit so much from the work of our academy?

It was incorporated but written off in exchange for some up front cash when we were on the brink of going bust - same for walcott.

We have the same problem with our 'News' in Portsmouth. I think sometimes they just like to fill space on their web page.

I hope The Saints do get a cut of the sell on fee if he goes, it's only fair due. As has been said before I find it strange that a player with such obvious potential was sold without a sell on clause being included.

That said, I can't wait for the new season. Bring on the results. Best wishes to The Saints, I really do hope you maintain your presence in The Premier League this season. Go from strength to strength and keep a team from Hampshire in the top divisions.

I'll be watching your results and wishing you all the best!

Nice comment from Pompey 1898, probably the bestest most sensiblest Pompey fan on the planet. Seriously though I remember talking to you before the start of last season on here and you said then you hoped Saints finished no worse than 17th. Well i would like to wish you all the best for the coming season to. It makes a change to have one of our fishy friends come on here and talk sense and be a genuine football fan who has a healthy rivalry with their near neighbours.

[quote][p][bold]Pompey1898[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]mattboy111[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]classof'77[/bold] wrote:
Personally I find it absolutely incredible if no sell-on clause was incorporated in the case of a player who obviously had such great potential, Accepting a buy-out in straitened financial circumstances is more understandable, but it depends on what the buy-out figure was. But in general a sell-on clause for any decent academy product ought surely to be regarded as mandatory: why should the 'big clubs' be the ones to profit so much from the work of our academy?[/p][/quote]It was incorporated but written off in exchange for some up front cash when we were on the brink of going bust - same for walcott.[/p][/quote]We have the same problem with our 'News' in Portsmouth. I think sometimes they just like to fill space on their web page.
I hope The Saints do get a cut of the sell on fee if he goes, it's only fair due. As has been said before I find it strange that a player with such obvious potential was sold without a sell on clause being included.
That said, I can't wait for the new season. Bring on the results. Best wishes to The Saints, I really do hope you maintain your presence in The Premier League this season. Go from strength to strength and keep a team from Hampshire in the top divisions.
I'll be watching your results and wishing you all the best![/p][/quote]Nice comment from Pompey 1898, probably the bestest most sensiblest Pompey fan on the planet. Seriously though I remember talking to you before the start of last season on here and you said then you hoped Saints finished no worse than 17th. Well i would like to wish you all the best for the coming season to. It makes a change to have one of our fishy friends come on here and talk sense and be a genuine football fan who has a healthy rivalry with their near neighbours.saintand266

classof'77 wrote:
Personally I find it absolutely incredible if no sell-on clause was incorporated in the case of a player who obviously had such great potential, Accepting a buy-out in straitened financial circumstances is more understandable, but it depends on what the buy-out figure was. But in general a sell-on clause for any decent academy product ought surely to be regarded as mandatory: why should the 'big clubs' be the ones to profit so much from the work of our academy?

It was incorporated but written off in exchange for some up front cash when we were on the brink of going bust - same for walcott.

We have the same problem with our 'News' in Portsmouth. I think sometimes they just like to fill space on their web page.

I hope The Saints do get a cut of the sell on fee if he goes, it's only fair due. As has been said before I find it strange that a player with such obvious potential was sold without a sell on clause being included.

That said, I can't wait for the new season. Bring on the results. Best wishes to The Saints, I really do hope you maintain your presence in The Premier League this season. Go from strength to strength and keep a team from Hampshire in the top divisions.

I'll be watching your results and wishing you all the best!

Nice comment from Pompey 1898, probably the bestest most sensiblest Pompey fan on the planet. Seriously though I remember talking to you before the start of last season on here and you said then you hoped Saints finished no worse than 17th. Well i would like to wish you all the best for the coming season to. It makes a change to have one of our fishy friends come on here and talk sense and be a genuine football fan who has a healthy rivalry with their near neighbours.

stop it the pair of you!

how DARE you both make sensible comments and be all friendly and amicable!
you both take back what you said immediately or I'll wash both your mouths out with soap.

[quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Pompey1898[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]mattboy111[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]classof'77[/bold] wrote:
Personally I find it absolutely incredible if no sell-on clause was incorporated in the case of a player who obviously had such great potential, Accepting a buy-out in straitened financial circumstances is more understandable, but it depends on what the buy-out figure was. But in general a sell-on clause for any decent academy product ought surely to be regarded as mandatory: why should the 'big clubs' be the ones to profit so much from the work of our academy?[/p][/quote]It was incorporated but written off in exchange for some up front cash when we were on the brink of going bust - same for walcott.[/p][/quote]We have the same problem with our 'News' in Portsmouth. I think sometimes they just like to fill space on their web page.
I hope The Saints do get a cut of the sell on fee if he goes, it's only fair due. As has been said before I find it strange that a player with such obvious potential was sold without a sell on clause being included.
That said, I can't wait for the new season. Bring on the results. Best wishes to The Saints, I really do hope you maintain your presence in The Premier League this season. Go from strength to strength and keep a team from Hampshire in the top divisions.
I'll be watching your results and wishing you all the best![/p][/quote]Nice comment from Pompey 1898, probably the bestest most sensiblest Pompey fan on the planet. Seriously though I remember talking to you before the start of last season on here and you said then you hoped Saints finished no worse than 17th. Well i would like to wish you all the best for the coming season to. It makes a change to have one of our fishy friends come on here and talk sense and be a genuine football fan who has a healthy rivalry with their near neighbours.[/p][/quote]stop it the pair of you!
how DARE you both make sensible comments and be all friendly and amicable!
you both take back what you said immediately or I'll wash both your mouths out with soap.Stroppy_gramps

Calum Chambers has signed a four year contract to-day, another fine young player commits to the Saints growing Empire. Looks like Cortese meant what he said about bringing on the academy players into the first team squad.
And I'm liking that very much COYR.

Calum Chambers has signed a four year contract to-day, another fine young player commits to the Saints growing Empire. Looks like Cortese meant what he said about bringing on the academy players into the first team squad.
And I'm liking that very much COYR.angus mc coatup

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We played a vital role in the development of Bale and for us to only get £2 mill out of £85 mill pot is unforgivable. Those Londoners saw us coming!

It depends which way you look at it. Let's imagine the club and Spuds hadn't reached an agreement to settle the back payments early in exchange for waiving the sell-on percentage and, as a result, the club had folded. Where would we be now? Reformed in the Rymans, perhaps? Given that scenario, what would the club's assets be worth at present?

You could put a different spin on this and say that, in the end, the reworked deal delayed administration and bought the time which eventually proved critical in Cortese showing interest and Markus brokering a deal.

So, stuff the extra £12m or whatever it would have been, all's well that ends well.

[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote:
We played a vital role in the development of Bale and for us to only get £2 mill out of £85 mill pot is unforgivable. Those Londoners saw us coming![/p][/quote]It depends which way you look at it. Let's imagine the club and Spuds hadn't reached an agreement to settle the back payments early in exchange for waiving the sell-on percentage and, as a result, the club had folded. Where would we be now? Reformed in the Rymans, perhaps? Given that scenario, what would the club's assets be worth at present?
You could put a different spin on this and say that, in the end, the reworked deal delayed administration and bought the time which eventually proved critical in Cortese showing interest and Markus brokering a deal.
So, stuff the extra £12m or whatever it would have been, all's well that ends well.Strasbourg Saint

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We played a vital role in the development of Bale and for us to only get £2 mill out of £85 mill pot is unforgivable. Those Londoners saw us coming!

nice knee jerk.

get a clue.

[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote:
We played a vital role in the development of Bale and for us to only get £2 mill out of £85 mill pot is unforgivable. Those Londoners saw us coming![/p][/quote]nice knee jerk.
get a clue.Stroppy_gramps

angus mc coatup wrote:
Calum Chambers has signed a four year contract to-day, another fine young player commits to the Saints growing Empire. Looks like Cortese meant what he said about bringing on the academy players into the first team squad.
And I'm liking that very much COYR.

How did you get an immediate minus score for this comment, Angus? You're spot on.

Not every academy player is going to be subject to an £85m bid from Real Madrid but many are going to have successful footballing careers.

For example, I note that Drew Surman has joined Bournemouth on loan today. It's quite apt that he should be moving at this point in the Bale saga. After all, it was his £1m sale which helped pay the SMS staff back in the grime and distant past.

[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote:
Calum Chambers has signed a four year contract to-day, another fine young player commits to the Saints growing Empire. Looks like Cortese meant what he said about bringing on the academy players into the first team squad.
And I'm liking that very much COYR.[/p][/quote]How did you get an immediate minus score for this comment, Angus? You're spot on.
Not every academy player is going to be subject to an £85m bid from Real Madrid but many are going to have successful footballing careers.
For example, I note that Drew Surman has joined Bournemouth on loan today. It's quite apt that he should be moving at this point in the Bale saga. After all, it was his £1m sale which helped pay the SMS staff back in the grime and distant past.Strasbourg Saint

angus mc coatup wrote:
Calum Chambers has signed a four year contract to-day, another fine young player commits to the Saints growing Empire. Looks like Cortese meant what he said about bringing on the academy players into the first team squad.
And I'm liking that very much COYR.

How did you get an immediate minus score for this comment, Angus? You're spot on.

Not every academy player is going to be subject to an £85m bid from Real Madrid but many are going to have successful footballing careers.

For example, I note that Drew Surman has joined Bournemouth on loan today. It's quite apt that he should be moving at this point in the Bale saga. After all, it was his £1m sale which helped pay the SMS staff back in the grime and distant past.

Don't take any notice of the minus score, It's aimed at me personally not the post. To be honest I'm expecting that every time I comment.

The Bale scenario will not happen in the future, well.....at least while the present management team are in charge. Any player leaving this club, goes under the clubs terms because we simply are under no pressure to sell anymore.

[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote:
Calum Chambers has signed a four year contract to-day, another fine young player commits to the Saints growing Empire. Looks like Cortese meant what he said about bringing on the academy players into the first team squad.
And I'm liking that very much COYR.[/p][/quote]How did you get an immediate minus score for this comment, Angus? You're spot on.
Not every academy player is going to be subject to an £85m bid from Real Madrid but many are going to have successful footballing careers.
For example, I note that Drew Surman has joined Bournemouth on loan today. It's quite apt that he should be moving at this point in the Bale saga. After all, it was his £1m sale which helped pay the SMS staff back in the grime and distant past.[/p][/quote]Don't take any notice of the minus score, It's aimed at me personally not the post. To be honest I'm expecting that every time I comment.
The Bale scenario will not happen in the future, well.....at least while the present management team are in charge. Any player leaving this club, goes under the clubs terms because we simply are under no pressure to sell anymore.angus mc coatup

I can only think of all the talent our academy has produced in the past which we have sold on only too cheaply and other clubs have benefitted from.It now looks like those days have come to an end and for me not too soon.Time for us Saints to benefit from all our academy input and climb the premier league rankings and table.C O Y R

I can only think of all the talent our academy has produced in the past which we have sold on only too cheaply and other clubs have benefitted from.It now looks like those days have come to an end and for me not too soon.Time for us Saints to benefit from all our academy input and climb the premier league rankings and table.C O Y Rnorth wales saint 2

classof'77 wrote:
Personally I find it absolutely incredible if no sell-on clause was incorporated in the case of a player who obviously had such great potential, Accepting a buy-out in straitened financial circumstances is more understandable, but it depends on what the buy-out figure was. But in general a sell-on clause for any decent academy product ought surely to be regarded as mandatory: why should the 'big clubs' be the ones to profit so much from the work of our academy?

It was incorporated but written off in exchange for some up front cash when we were on the brink of going bust - same for walcott.

We have the same problem with our 'News' in Portsmouth. I think sometimes they just like to fill space on their web page.

I hope The Saints do get a cut of the sell on fee if he goes, it's only fair due. As has been said before I find it strange that a player with such obvious potential was sold without a sell on clause being included.

That said, I can't wait for the new season. Bring on the results. Best wishes to The Saints, I really do hope you maintain your presence in The Premier League this season. Go from strength to strength and keep a team from Hampshire in the top divisions.

I'll be watching your results and wishing you all the best!

Nice comment from Pompey 1898, probably the bestest most sensiblest Pompey fan on the planet. Seriously though I remember talking to you before the start of last season on here and you said then you hoped Saints finished no worse than 17th. Well i would like to wish you all the best for the coming season to. It makes a change to have one of our fishy friends come on here and talk sense and be a genuine football fan who has a healthy rivalry with their near neighbours.

stop it the pair of you!

how DARE you both make sensible comments and be all friendly and amicable!
you both take back what you said immediately or I'll wash both your mouths out with soap.

Now that is a Pompey fan I can talk to.

[quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Pompey1898[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]mattboy111[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]classof'77[/bold] wrote:
Personally I find it absolutely incredible if no sell-on clause was incorporated in the case of a player who obviously had such great potential, Accepting a buy-out in straitened financial circumstances is more understandable, but it depends on what the buy-out figure was. But in general a sell-on clause for any decent academy product ought surely to be regarded as mandatory: why should the 'big clubs' be the ones to profit so much from the work of our academy?[/p][/quote]It was incorporated but written off in exchange for some up front cash when we were on the brink of going bust - same for walcott.[/p][/quote]We have the same problem with our 'News' in Portsmouth. I think sometimes they just like to fill space on their web page.
I hope The Saints do get a cut of the sell on fee if he goes, it's only fair due. As has been said before I find it strange that a player with such obvious potential was sold without a sell on clause being included.
That said, I can't wait for the new season. Bring on the results. Best wishes to The Saints, I really do hope you maintain your presence in The Premier League this season. Go from strength to strength and keep a team from Hampshire in the top divisions.
I'll be watching your results and wishing you all the best![/p][/quote]Nice comment from Pompey 1898, probably the bestest most sensiblest Pompey fan on the planet. Seriously though I remember talking to you before the start of last season on here and you said then you hoped Saints finished no worse than 17th. Well i would like to wish you all the best for the coming season to. It makes a change to have one of our fishy friends come on here and talk sense and be a genuine football fan who has a healthy rivalry with their near neighbours.[/p][/quote]stop it the pair of you!
how DARE you both make sensible comments and be all friendly and amicable!
you both take back what you said immediately or I'll wash both your mouths out with soap.[/p][/quote]Now that is a Pompey fan I can talk to.DisplacedFan

Is that a real question about streaming?? That's the fibre optic package isn't it?? One of the quickest Internet connections out, what do you think!? Lol

I have no idea, I am technically ignorant.

I notice a lot of people on here complain about the quality of streaming, some of whom I thought would have BT Infinity. That's why I asked the question. Are there other factors other than the speed of broadband which affect streaming reception. As I said I am technically ignorant.

To be honest george, BT spend massive amounts of money selling you something they can't provide and their customer service is awful. Your connection will depend on peak times etc but also on pop up advertising and active programmes on your pc, after this it will depend on the memory capablity and in some cases the size of your hard drive. My advice is to ask friends how they get on with their service providers and form your own judgement and NEVER listen to the sales patter. For what it's worth, I'm with Sky, have been for many years, never had a single problem, connections and streaming most of the time is instant. Used to be with BT, awful connection, on one occassion I phoned cust. services, they told me i had come through to the wrong number and gave me the correct one, this happened ten times in a row, when I looked down at the list of the numbers I had written down the tenth was the first number I phoned.! Needless to say thats when we parted company.

Hope that helps

From the opposite point of view I've had BT broadband for many years without any problems. A line fault was dealt with efficiently and the speed is regularly over 6meg.

[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me if we didn't have a sell on clause. I seem to recall we didn't have one for Shearer either when he went to Blackburn and then on to Newcastle.
But I do wonder why we didn't have one with Bale? It does make me think, now why wouldn't we have one. What possible reason could there be for that?
I can't remember who was CEO when Bale went. Was it Crouch or Lowe or Wilde? Or some combination of those three.
Off topic: Does anybody know if BT Infinity improves streaming reception?[/p][/quote]Is that a real question about streaming?? That's the fibre optic package isn't it?? One of the quickest Internet connections out, what do you think!? Lol[/p][/quote]I have no idea, I am technically ignorant.
I notice a lot of people on here complain about the quality of streaming, some of whom I thought would have BT Infinity. That's why I asked the question. Are there other factors other than the speed of broadband which affect streaming reception. As I said I am technically ignorant.[/p][/quote]To be honest george, BT spend massive amounts of money selling you something they can't provide and their customer service is awful. Your connection will depend on peak times etc but also on pop up advertising and active programmes on your pc, after this it will depend on the memory capablity and in some cases the size of your hard drive. My advice is to ask friends how they get on with their service providers and form your own judgement and NEVER listen to the sales patter. For what it's worth, I'm with Sky, have been for many years, never had a single problem, connections and streaming most of the time is instant. Used to be with BT, awful connection, on one occassion I phoned cust. services, they told me i had come through to the wrong number and gave me the correct one, this happened ten times in a row, when I looked down at the list of the numbers I had written down the tenth was the first number I phoned.! Needless to say thats when we parted company.
Hope that helps[/p][/quote]From the opposite point of view I've had BT broadband for many years without any problems. A line fault was dealt with efficiently and the speed is regularly over 6meg.Clever Dick

north wales saint 2 wrote:
I can only think of all the talent our academy has produced in the past which we have sold on only too cheaply and other clubs have benefitted from.It now looks like those days have come to an end and for me not too soon.Time for us Saints to benefit from all our academy input and climb the premier league rankings and table.C O Y R

Totally agree.

Need to leave the 'Selling Club' reputation a long, long way behind us.
It's about time we really started to look at what our academy is producing and getting that talent into the first team.

[quote][p][bold]north wales saint 2[/bold] wrote:
I can only think of all the talent our academy has produced in the past which we have sold on only too cheaply and other clubs have benefitted from.It now looks like those days have come to an end and for me not too soon.Time for us Saints to benefit from all our academy input and climb the premier league rankings and table.C O Y R[/p][/quote]Totally agree.
Need to leave the 'Selling Club' reputation a long, long way behind us.
It's about time we really started to look at what our academy is producing and getting that talent into the first team.Stroppy_gramps

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
We played a vital role in the development of Bale and for us to only get £2 mill out of £85 mill pot is unforgivable. Those Londoners saw us coming!

It depends which way you look at it. Let's imagine the club and Spuds hadn't reached an agreement to settle the back payments early in exchange for waiving the sell-on percentage and, as a result, the club had folded. Where would we be now? Reformed in the Rymans, perhaps? Given that scenario, what would the club's assets be worth at present?

You could put a different spin on this and say that, in the end, the reworked deal delayed administration and bought the time which eventually proved critical in Cortese showing interest and Markus brokering a deal.

So, stuff the extra £12m or whatever it would have been, all's well that ends well.

Yep.

And even if the sell on clause were still valid, wouldn't the financial benefit from it be payable to the creditors of the old holding company. Not to the new holding company? Because the benefit gained from the sale of the old companies assets would have to go to the creditors of the old company via the administrators of the old company.

Just a thought. But that would seem logical to me.

Unless the new company paid the administrators a premium on top of the agreed buying price of the club's assets in exchange for an agreement with the creditors of the old company to give up any financial benefits from sell-on clauses to the new company.

Hope that makes sense.

But as we know none of that happened so it doesn't matter.

[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote:
We played a vital role in the development of Bale and for us to only get £2 mill out of £85 mill pot is unforgivable. Those Londoners saw us coming![/p][/quote]It depends which way you look at it. Let's imagine the club and Spuds hadn't reached an agreement to settle the back payments early in exchange for waiving the sell-on percentage and, as a result, the club had folded. Where would we be now? Reformed in the Rymans, perhaps? Given that scenario, what would the club's assets be worth at present?
You could put a different spin on this and say that, in the end, the reworked deal delayed administration and bought the time which eventually proved critical in Cortese showing interest and Markus brokering a deal.
So, stuff the extra £12m or whatever it would have been, all's well that ends well.[/p][/quote]Yep.
And even if the sell on clause were still valid, wouldn't the financial benefit from it be payable to the creditors of the old holding company. Not to the new holding company? Because the benefit gained from the sale of the old companies assets would have to go to the creditors of the old company via the administrators of the old company.
Just a thought. But that would seem logical to me.
Unless the new company paid the administrators a premium on top of the agreed buying price of the club's assets in exchange for an agreement with the creditors of the old company to give up any financial benefits from sell-on clauses to the new company.
Hope that makes sense.
But as we know none of that happened so it doesn't matter.george chivers

You get a text from Tesco, British Airways etc etc to remind you about deliveries, flights etc - we should have same system to let fans know when there is any real transfer news.

It would save us wasting time keep coming on here reading pointless space-fillers. Yawn.

Yet you've taken time to not only read it but comment as well. Although the use of the term "huge" might be stretching it, this most certainly qualifies as "real news". As Southampton fans we all have an interest in one of our academy products, I would imagine alot of people unaware about the rule which means we get some compensation and it also goes some way to ,again, prove the ineptitude of the previous board. The constant need to complain about journos doing their job is more than mildly annoying, just don't read it if you don't like it..................
.......... Good story Gordon.

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You get a text from Tesco, British Airways etc etc to remind you about deliveries, flights etc - we should have same system to let fans know when there is any real transfer news.
It would save us wasting time keep coming on here reading pointless space-fillers. Yawn.[/p][/quote]Yet you've taken time to not only read it but comment as well. Although the use of the term "huge" might be stretching it, this most certainly qualifies as "real news". As Southampton fans we all have an interest in one of our academy products, I would imagine alot of people unaware about the rule which means we get some compensation and it also goes some way to ,again, prove the ineptitude of the previous board. The constant need to complain about journos doing their job is more than mildly annoying, just don't read it if you don't like it..................
.......... Good story Gordon.drgonzo84

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Where is Osprey?Is he on holiday,or should someone go round and knock on his door,to see if he's alright?

I've heard the police are in the process of digging up Confucious's patio as we speak. Apparently Teboura's gone missing too and it's all getting a bit 'Fred West'.

I think perhaps some of the WUMS got fed up with the "pro saints" messages I kept posting for them via some additional sign-ons......

[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote:
Where is Osprey?Is he on holiday,or should someone go round and knock on his door,to see if he's alright?[/p][/quote]I've heard the police are in the process of digging up Confucious's patio as we speak. Apparently Teboura's gone missing too and it's all getting a bit 'Fred West'.[/p][/quote]I think perhaps some of the WUMS got fed up with the "pro saints" messages I kept posting for them via some additional sign-ons......gr8saint

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Where is Osprey?Is he on holiday,or should someone go round and knock on his door,to see if he's alright?

I've heard the police are in the process of digging up Confucious's patio as we speak. Apparently Teboura's gone missing too and it's all getting a bit 'Fred West'.

I think perhaps some of the WUMS got fed up with the &quot;pro saints" messages I kept posting for them via some additional sign-ons......

I love the saints and think that Wanyama made the best move of his career moving away from celtic!

[quote][p][bold]gr8saint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote:
Where is Osprey?Is he on holiday,or should someone go round and knock on his door,to see if he's alright?[/p][/quote]I've heard the police are in the process of digging up Confucious's patio as we speak. Apparently Teboura's gone missing too and it's all getting a bit 'Fred West'.[/p][/quote]I think perhaps some of the WUMS got fed up with the "pro saints" messages I kept posting for them via some additional sign-ons......[/p][/quote]I love the saints and think that Wanyama made the best move of his career moving away from celtic!Ach I The Noo

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Where is Osprey?Is he on holiday,or should someone go round and knock on his door,to see if he's alright?

I've heard the police are in the process of digging up Confucious's patio as we speak. Apparently Teboura's gone missing too and it's all getting a bit 'Fred West'.

I think perhaps some of the WUMS got fed up with the &quot;pro saints" messages I kept posting for them via some additional sign-ons......

I love the saints and think that Wanyama made the best move of his career moving away from celtic!

Yeah, what's not to love?
We all know there's only 1 team in Hampshire and they play at St Marys!
STID

[quote][p][bold]Ach I The Noo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]gr8saint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote:
Where is Osprey?Is he on holiday,or should someone go round and knock on his door,to see if he's alright?[/p][/quote]I've heard the police are in the process of digging up Confucious's patio as we speak. Apparently Teboura's gone missing too and it's all getting a bit 'Fred West'.[/p][/quote]I think perhaps some of the WUMS got fed up with the "pro saints" messages I kept posting for them via some additional sign-ons......[/p][/quote]I love the saints and think that Wanyama made the best move of his career moving away from celtic![/p][/quote]Yeah, what's not to love?
We all know there's only 1 team in Hampshire and they play at St Marys!
STIDTEBOURBA.

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Where is Osprey?Is he on holiday,or should someone go round and knock on his door,to see if he's alright?

I've heard the police are in the process of digging up Confucious's patio as we speak. Apparently Teboura's gone missing too and it's all getting a bit 'Fred West'.

I think perhaps some of the WUMS got fed up with the &quot;pro saints" messages I kept posting for them via some additional sign-ons......

I love the saints and think that Wanyama made the best move of his career moving away from celtic!

Yeah, what's not to love?
We all know there's only 1 team in Hampshire and they play at St Marys!
STID

Me too!
Without Southampton FC, I's have nothing worthwhile in my life.

Everyday I thank all of the known gods for sending Markus Leibherr to save SFC, just so that I know for sure that I am thanking the right one.

Then I count my blessings for the astounding wonder that is our leader, Nicola Cortese.

COYR
STID
There's only 1 team in hampshire, and they play in RED!

[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Ach I The Noo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]gr8saint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote:
Where is Osprey?Is he on holiday,or should someone go round and knock on his door,to see if he's alright?[/p][/quote]I've heard the police are in the process of digging up Confucious's patio as we speak. Apparently Teboura's gone missing too and it's all getting a bit 'Fred West'.[/p][/quote]I think perhaps some of the WUMS got fed up with the "pro saints" messages I kept posting for them via some additional sign-ons......[/p][/quote]I love the saints and think that Wanyama made the best move of his career moving away from celtic![/p][/quote]Yeah, what's not to love?
We all know there's only 1 team in Hampshire and they play at St Marys!
STID[/p][/quote]Me too!
Without Southampton FC, I's have nothing worthwhile in my life.
Everyday I thank all of the known gods for sending Markus Leibherr to save SFC, just so that I know for sure that I am thanking the right one.
Then I count my blessings for the astounding wonder that is our leader, Nicola Cortese.
COYR
STID
There's only 1 team in hampshire, and they play in RED!Five Trophies Between Us