Re: Chandler Burr Untitled S01E04

So my grounding description for E04 is going to be "quicksilver spider webs"

I also wanted to let everyone know that for the E04 reveal I'm going to be in NYC in the same room with Chandler so that will hopefully lead to a little looser kind of discussion.

I wanted to thank everyone for sending questions in to cbuntitled@gmail.com that is going to be the place I will be looking for questions. One favor I ask is to fully explain what kind of answer you're looking for in the e-mail but please try and distill your question down to something I can ask easily and succinctly on the video. If I know what you want out of the question I can, hopefully, steer Chandler towards the subject you would like answered.

I'll be back here once we all get our bottles for this round.

That sounds fantastic! I will do my best to email you so questions again

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Originally Posted by chandlerburr

Yes, and my apologies if that wording isn't clear, guys. SoSoul, that's indeed what I mean: the material in E04 is used as rarely, in a major aesthetic way, as shiso or ginger.

Thank you for clearing this up, CB!
Although now I'm confused about ginger as I don't consider that so rare...

But there are so many natural extracts that are overlooked or only used in very tiny amounts (to throw off the GC as Ellena wrote once) due either to the rarity, purity (supplier problems) or expense.

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Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto

*RP high-fives Irina in cyberspace somewhere over the middle of the Atlantic*

High-five back to you I may do NY sometimes again in the future, it's 'only' a 6 hrs flight from Amsterdam!

Re: Chandler Burr Untitled S01E04

Or an argument that you're a friggin' genius. You're one of the most prescient BNers my friend.

Ha, thanks, although I have no idea how the title could apply to me. I read some of my own prior observations and just shake my head and can't help but wonder, "What was I thinking?"

I suppose that was the blessing and curse of the (now cured, or at least in remission) chemical sensitivities I suffered. I'd hone in on very odd aspects of certain fragrances and also see links between seemingly disparate fragrances thanks to a given chemical or two that they shared. It's interesting revisiting frags now without the sensitivities - for one projection seems greatly reduced although I do still get 8+ hour longevity on nearly everything (I don't think I'm anosmic to many if any musks). The best part is that many frags (many of which I loved) that caused me physical pain and which wearing became an exercise in masochism no longer cause me any distress! Incidentally, many more frags smell 'natural' to me (not as in 'made with naturals' as I know very well how naturals smell and find few scents that utilize them heavily) but that simply smell nice, smooth, rounded and harmonious rather than discordant. I've also found my love of the intentionally synthetic scents growing, and many of my favorites are very synthetic and - at least as I interpret them - abstract (Fahrenheit 32, M/Mink, Askew, 7 de Loewe [more synthetic than abstract], Djin, etc).

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My e-mail says shipped on the 12th, but tracking shows no movement other than a label was generated. They must use the fragrancenet.com method, ship and hold for someone to pick-up so it moves.

Cross the number over to the UPS site - that may do the trick. It did for me. These are being mailed by a weird combination of UPS and USPS. The link is to USPS, but the tracking is on UPS. Go figure! I never even got a shipment email, but I went to "My Orders" on OpenSky, and it said it had shipped on the 12th, too.

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Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto

Cross the number over to the UPS site - that may do the trick. It did for me. These are being mailed by a weird combination of UPS and USPS. The link is to USPS, but the tracking is on UPS. Go figure! I never even got a shipment email, but I went to "My Orders" on OpenSky, and it said it had shipped on the 12th, too.

Thanks. Worked. They are using something similar to fragrancenet. In their case, they use FedEx to get it to the local PO for final delivery, in this case they are using UPS to hand off to the USPS for final delivery.

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Do we have any more potential players in the US lower 48? Any of you lovely ladies on the fence, or thinking you'd sit this one out? If so, please holler now! I have three empty packages left. I'm shipping Monday morning. But if I send you a sample, you have to get in here with the gang and give us your impressions and opinions!

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Originally Posted by 30 Roses

Red, thanks very much for thinking of me but I am going to bow out... I have a lot on my plate right now family-wise and don't feel I can give it proper attention.

Glad you caught me in time! If you're sure, then I'll go ahead and let your sample go to another interested party. I know what you're saying - these sniffs can take a lot out of one. I'm already feeling it.

I've just wasted 5 or 6 hours trying to verify that it's what I think it is - and discovered just how much of a brain drain that is. I actually have an old sample of my original guess, but discovered to my horror that S01E04 smells MORE like what it's supposed to be than my old sample does. So what does that mean? That my old sample went bad? Or has their been a reformulation? Or am I just out to lunch on my guess?

Yes - clearly it's possible to waste a lot of time on this. So - no problem.

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Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto

I've just wasted 5 or 6 hours trying to verify that it's what I think it is - and discovered just how much of a brain drain that is. I actually have an old sample of my original guess, but discovered to my horror that S01E04 smells MORE like what it's supposed to be than my old sample does. So what does that mean? That my old sample went bad? Or has their been a reformulation? Or am I just out to lunch on my guess?

Yes - clearly it's possible to waste a lot of time on this. So - no problem.

Any takers for some serious sniffing / obsessing?

Can't wait to hear more about E04!

And yes, with old samples oxidation is your worst enemy and can ruin any good blend. Especially if the blend contains citrus, like this one has been described.

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And yes, with old samples oxidation is your worst enemy and can ruin any good blend. Especially if the blend contains citrus, like this one has been described.

Interesting! I'm wondering if the decomposition products would obscure woody notes and lead to a more nondescript base. S01E04 has a nice woody drydown with distinct cedar/cedaroids, that are detectable almost from the beginning, but the wood notes are far less clear-cut in my old sample.

I'm not ready to say that my guess is right, but they're so similar otherwise, that my hunch is oxidation or minor changes to the formulation. I would say that the differences are less than what we found with E02 / Mugler Cologne.

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Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto

Interesting! I'm wondering if the decomposition products would obscure woody notes and lead to a more nondescript base. S01E04 has a nice woody drydown with distinct cedar/cedaroids, that are detectable almost from the beginning, but the wood notes are far less clear-cut in my old sample.

I'm not ready to say that my guess is right, but they're so similar otherwise, that my hunch is oxidation or minor changes to the formulation. I would say that the differences are less than what we found with E02 / Mugler Cologne.

In that case I would say 'reformulation'. Woody notes rarely oxidize ime. Could be a case of 'oakmoss reformulation'.
LOL cedaroid *chuckle*

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In that case I would say 'reformulation'. Woody notes rarely oxidize ime. Could be a case of 'oakmoss reformulation'.

You know, I thought that reformulation was such a weenie answer, but the way IFRA has been scaring the pants off people lately, with more austerity talk than in the economy - well - maybe it's right!

Originally Posted by Irina

LOL cedaroid *chuckle*

I love to think of these wonderful woody molecules - with, for all practical purposes, the lowest-level structure of cedar or ambergris, as "bionic naturals".

"Atlas Cedar, absolute, a component barely alive. Gentlemen, we can rebuild it, we have the technology. We have the capability to make the worlds first Bionic wood. Atlas Cedar will be that wood. Better than it was before. Better. Stronger. Longer lasting."

I'm just waiting for the flanker component, a truly feminine cedar!

[Note the civety and floral facets emerging from the woody structure!]

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Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto

I love to think of these wonderful woody molecules - with, for all practical purposes, the lowest-level structure of cedar or ambergris, as "bionic naturals".

"Atlas Cedar, absolute, a component barely alive. Gentlemen, we can rebuild it, we have the technology. We have the capability to make the worlds first Bionic wood. Atlas Cedar will be that wood. Better than it was before. Better. Stronger. Longer lasting."

I'm just waiting for the flanker component, a truly feminine cedar!

[Note the civety and floral facets emerging from the woody structure!]

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Originally Posted by Irina

Brilliant Does that picture depict how you feel about E04?

Only - and to some extent - about the woody part. That part is very natural, but in a surreal way. It's a nice cedar, and better than a lot of them right now (even some rather impressive niche), but it's still has a certain unnatural but attractive smoothness that tells me it didn't drop straight out of the garden. [RP puts on black cowboy hat and spits from his horse...."That robotic wood woman from the future is somewhere around here. Forget the train! Back to the hide-out, boys! YEE-HAAH! ]

The opening is pretty breathtaking in a citrus-based way - I would apply it repeatedly, to catch the opening again and again, except for the fact that I have to ship half of the juice to the others who are playing along on my bottle. I have to say - right now I'm liking this better than L'Etrog.

The woody part peeks through the citrus from the very beginning, and quietly becomes almost everything. A bit of the citrus feel manages to ride along all the way.

Chandler's description is apt, in that it's not overtly floral, but you do get an idea that the Good Floral Fairie (see Fig. 1 above) is hiding in the stump and casting her spell on the citrus. I won't specify the flower, so that others can see what they think when they get the sample.

The wood also seems to hide a bit of musk, but not nearly so much as my old sample seems to show. It is in the far drydown, where even the wood of S01E04 seems to fade, that S01E04 and my old sample of my guess converge completely again. But there is a wee bit of "tobacco" (spicy leaf and plum) in the heart, at the end of the opening, that seems to make E04 distinct from my old sample, and makes me think they're two different animals entirely.

The old silver mirror / mercury / whatever - I think that must be in the beginning. And if the fragrance is what I think it is - that sucker is actually very weird and webby, even in the heart - but my schnoz is hardly up to it at the moment. So - this is going to be one that people will need to mess with QUITE A BIT to "find Chandler", so to speak!

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Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto

Only - and to some extent - about the woody part. That part is very natural, but in a surreal way. It's a nice cedar, and better than a lot of them right now (even some rather impressive niche), but it's still has a certain unnatural but attractive smoothness that tells me it didn't drop straight out of the garden. [RP puts on black cowboy hat and spits from his horse...."That robotic wood woman from the future is somewhere around here. Forget the train! Back to the hide-out, boys! YEE-HAAH! ]

Wonderful imagery

Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto

The opening is pretty breathtaking in a citrus-based way - I would apply it repeatedly, to catch the opening again and again, except for the fact that I have to ship half of the juice to the others who are playing along on my bottle. I have to say - right now I'm liking this better than L'Etrog.

Sounds beautiful! I love L'Etrog so can't wait for the reveal to add this one to my wish list

Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto

The woody part peeks through the citrus from the very beginning, and quietly becomes almost everything. A bit of the citrus feel manages to ride along all the way.

Chandler's description is apt, in that it's not overtly floral, but you do get an idea that the Good Floral Fairie (see Fig. 1 above) is hiding in the stump and casting her spell on the citrus. I won't specify the flower, so that others can see what they think when they get the sample.

The wood also seems to hide a bit of musk, but not nearly so much as my old sample seems to show. It is in the far drydown, where even the wood of S01E04 seems to fade, that S01E04 and my old sample of my guess converge completely again. But there is a wee bit of "tobacco" (spicy leaf and plum) in the heart, at the end of the opening, that seems to make E04 distinct from my old sample, and makes me think they're two different animals entirely.

The old silver mirror / mercury / whatever - I think that must be in the beginning. And if the fragrance is what I think it is - that sucker is actually very weird and webby, even in the heart - but my schnoz is hardly up to it at the moment. So - this is going to be one that people will need to mess with QUITE A BIT to "find Chandler", so to speak!

Can't wait to hear more, it sounds like an interesting find! Thank you so much for taking the plunge on this one and share your impressions, Red, it was a long wait!

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Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto

The opening is pretty breathtaking in a citrus-based way - I would apply it repeatedly, to catch the opening again and again, except for the fact that I have to ship half of the juice to the others who are playing along on my bottle. I have to say - right now I'm liking this better than L'Etrog.

Now that I've smelled it, I can see why Chandler would say this is a fragrance that anyone could love, its beautiful in a way that isn't too challenging. Sadly, now that I have my bottle I also have a cold and my nose isn't up to par. I'm hoping this will clear up soon!

I've been enjoying L'Etrog more and more - since I wore it almost daily two weeks ago, it was on all my clothes, and when I did the laundry I couldn't help noticing how nice it smelled. I also had my two nieces sample it, and enjoyed smelling it on them across the room. I think smelling a fragrance on someone else is a good way to test how you feel about it.

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I am definitely enjoying this fragrance. Citrus is in my comfort zone. That said, unfortunately my skin pretty much eats this fragrance. I tried spraying it yesterday on my clothes also, and the scent lasted fine on them, but on my skin it disappears quite quickly.

I was complimented by two strangers in a store yesterday. This scent does seem like a crowd pleaser. It is pleasant, and light, and the drydown has this fun tangy mix of citrus and something else. Civet, perhaps?

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I've smelled it, and I also find it pleasant and lovely, but really subtle. No one note stands out to me, I get an overall impression of something bright, a little sweet and tart, citrusy and fruity (rose?), with a plummy-woody undertone (and some tea or tobacco leaf maybe?).

It is a delicate scent and wears like a light cologne, and gets lost on my skin after a while. By contrast, I sniffed it alongside Rose Ikebana and Osmanthe Yunnan (two scents that seemed comparable), and both of the Hermes scents smelled stronger, more direct, and less abstract.

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Very juicy and floral to me. Makes me think of breakfast. Coming down on a nice day to fresh juice and flowers. Windows are open and I can smell the lawn in the breeze. Very happy scent. Reminds me of an ex. That part isn't so happy.

Oh well

I imagine if I wore this in public, I'd just get told I smell like a girl.