Ok so I decided to try Saiprus and Shiny again. The spawn will hopefully be on Monday October 5th. I started conditioning them yesterday....Saiprus ALREADY has a nest!! Ok so from yesterday to October 4th (I'm gonna float them in the tub at night and release him in the morning, and put her in a jar) they will be on the following schedule: freeze dried bloodworms in the morning, HBH Betta Bites at night, and a 50% water change daily (they're in my cheap 1/2 gallon divider tank, ya scold me).

For the spawning set up:
16.5 gallon plastic tub
50 watt heater set at 82 degrees
Plenty of plastic plants
Styrofoam cup
a jar for Shiny
a bag of decaffinated tea