The UN is a failure, Has always been a failure and the US should pull out, stop all funding and turn the UN Building in New York into a Parking Lot....

The UN has some uses. It was useful for the recognition of Israel, the Korean War, and fight against small pox, and the US should pay dues commensurate with its participation and permamnent membership in the security council. But I'm sick of our "leaders" bending over for the UN. The UN should be located in a more neutral setting like Austria or Switzerland. Let New York City take over the UN facilities by eminent domain, pay the UN fair market value. I think that it would be fitting to make the building into a museum of the history of appeasement, but if NY wants to let Don ald Trump develop it, that's fine with me.

Re: Charles Lichenstein, alternate rep. for special political affairs to the UN, addressing events following the USSR shooting down KAL Flight 007:

'The United States [Federal Government], which opposed the [New York and New Jersey] legislation, offered the Soviet Union landing rights at a military base so its foreign minister, Andrei A. Gromyko, could fly in for the General Assembly meeting. But the Soviets refused. When the United Nations committee met to review the situation, the Soviet delegate, Igor I. Yakovlev, said the ban on landing "raises the question of whether the United Nations should be in the United States." A furious Mr. Lichenstein replied that if member states felt "they are not being treated with the hostly consideration that is their due," they should consider "removing themselves and this organization from the soil of the United States. We will put no impediment in your way," he continued, "The members of the U.S. mission to the United Nations will be down at the dockside waving you a fond farewell as you sail off into the sunset.'(NY Times Obituary, 8/22/02)

<quoted text>The UN has some uses. It was useful for the recognition of Israel, the Korean War, and fight against small pox, and the US should pay dues commensurate with its participation and permamnent membership in the security council. But I'm sick of our "leaders" bending over for the UN. The UN should be located in a more neutral setting like Austria or Switzerland. Let New York City take over the UN facilities by eminent domain, pay the UN fair market value. I think that it would be fitting to make the building into a museum of the history of appeasement, but if NY wants to let Don ald Trump develop it, that's fine with me.

I disagree... All of those issues of import could have been accomplished through NATO and left those countries that do not think Individual Liberty has import out of the equation... Instead of UN Blue helmets sitting on the side lines as when Hezbola fired rocket after rocket into Israel or Blue Helmets running around in many places in the world sitting on their hands, Maybe Some NATO helmets would have actually stopped it... Maybe if we did not have so many two bit dictators in a UN Meeting the US, Britain, Israel, and other countries could call up China and Russia and sit down quietly and have a talk about the Islamic Fundy problem that Both Russia and China are facing just as much as the rest of the western world and come to a actual agreement on combining forces to solve it once and for all...

all these criminals or however they can be called, who are responsible for these riots are no Syrians, they are the same crminals, who have attacked and invaded Iraq, Afghanistan ( criminals from Usa, nato, israel ). They try to ruin everything and nobody knows why.

all these criminals or however they can be called, who are responsible for these riots are no Syrians, they are the same crminals, who have attacked and invaded Iraq, Afghanistan ( criminals from Usa, nato, israel ). They try to ruin everything and nobody knows why.

I disagree... All of those issues of import could have been accomplished through NATO and left those countries that do not think Individual Liberty has import out of the equation... Instead of UN Blue helmets sitting on the side lines as when Hezbola fired rocket after rocket into Israel or Blue Helmets running around in many places in the world sitting on their hands, Maybe Some NATO helmets would have actually stopped it... Maybe if we did not have so many two bit dictators in a UN Meeting the US, Britain, Israel, and other countries could call up China and Russia and sit down quietly and have a talk about the Islamic Fundy problem that Both Russia and China are facing just as much as the rest of the western world and come to a actual agreement on combining forces to solve it once and for all...

Good points, although the fact that the UN backed the US in the Korean War had greater rhetorical value than if a pro-western group like NATO been the umbrella group. OTOH, that was 60 years ago and I think that the US has repaid the favor by now. A lot of people advocate for the UN on the grounds that one should talk to one's enemies, but that can be done without a bloated international body serving as a supposed mediator. Enemies have conversed via the parley for millenia. The US/USSR hotline, US summits with China, Camp David Accords, Dayton Accords, Good Friday Agreement, etc. were all accomplished with little or no help from the UN. I'm still not convinced that the US should withdraw from the UN, but participation should be limited (e.g., we could at least make it regular policy to abstain from general assembly votes), and the UN should be invited to move to a "neutral" country ASAP.

all these criminals or however they can be called, who are responsible for these riots are no Syrians, they are the same crminals, who have attacked and invaded Iraq, Afghanistan ( criminals from Usa, nato, israel ). They try to ruin everything and nobody knows why.

When did Israel invade Iraq and Afghanistan, Herr Mark? Or shall I say Deutsch Mark?:-)

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