As far as ammo, Soviets used heavy ball, 180..182gr for snipers, but within a city light ball 148..152gr worked fine. The Germans made ammo, 196..198gr for snipers, but again at close range 147gr light ball worked fine.
Soviet heavy ball has less felt recoil then the light ball counterpart as it uses a slower burning powder driving the bullet around 2400fps. German heavy ball has a pretty stiff smack as the drove the 198gr bullet to over 2700fps. German light ball or Ss sent a 147gr to 2900fps. M2 ball put a 150gr at 2700fps. The German ammos' ballistics combined w/ better optics and superb rifles made there rifles 800 yard killers while the soviets were closer to 700 yards and everyone else 600 yards.

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I don't think this is true. Every photograph I have examined of the Second Intifada in which .22 rimfire rifles were present contained Sabattis, not Rugers. From a distance, they look similar, but they are different, the Sabatti being a superior weapon by any measure.

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Originally Posted by performer21

and with that long barrel it could easly be accurate at a thousand yards. giving it the reach and acuracy at distance that the springfeild couldn't match. so even though the springfeild was supperior as a rifle when matched up against those nagants designated for sniper use they are no match.

FAIL.

All other things equal, shorter barrels are more mechanically accurate than longer barrels. Google "barrel harmonics" to understand why. What a longer barrel does is offer a longer sight radius for iron sights, which, from a human factors standpoint, may offer enhances accuracy by mitigating human error. However, we must keep in mind that in WWII, there were many designated snipers who were not issued glass optics, and therefore a longer barrel would indeed enhance human accuracy.

As to "reach", that's debatable. Check the ballistics. From a 24 inch barrel, the muzzle velocity of standard issue 30-06 is about 100 fps faster than issue 7.62x54R from a 28 inch barrel for 150 grain bullets. So, it comes down to bullet weigh and design. Russkis tended to issue heavier bullets as a rule, but US bullet design was much better, so in terms of "reach", it is probably a wash.

This is academic the '03-A3 was the better rifle. But when you take into account the target rich environment of the Battle of Stalingrad the Moisin Nagant in the hands of Vasili Zaytsev and his fellow snipers was the most succesful. Both weapons are excellent. If they judge Optics the Germans and Russians were superior.