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Sunday, October 29, 2017

The Great Fraud in 25 Words Or Less

By Anna Von Reitz

The Great Fraud is a process designed to strip living men of their identity and assets in order to benefit corporations.

Soulless faceless corporations are lined up all over the world feeding off the living people like vampires.

They are using patents, trademarks, and stolen copyrights to do it.

So that is why we lay claim to the harmful copyrights, patents, and trademarks in the name of the actual government of this country--- to not only bring collateral to provide relief to the people harmed, but to shut down the fraud process itself.

Perhaps Mason's, Unincorporated ?You have a choice whether to Inc. or not.But it may be much wiser to wait until all the red tape placed on businesses, is removed, before opening up a business. ?(this is not advice; just me thinking out loud)

There is only one solution to our problems, and one only.....we need to clear out our traitorist judges throughout every single court on this land, so they can never run interferance again for the banks...that alone will make the IRS IMPOTANT, and no threat at all anymore.. In fact watch them run for cover for a change...!!

No, you can only be a tax protester if you are protesting inside of the system. That is if you have not surrendered the federal person to the treasury on a Form 56 and withdrawn your election to pay federal income tax. James, this is very basic Anna 101. Worked for me. They zeroed out my account.

You are financially culpable if the parent corporation go down so do you .in that way all are under the Congress as subject.to USA.Inc Anna was saying she can take them all down by going after the master corporation . But do your own research

Abby, it's October 1st and yes, you van back date it to any year. I would advise backdating to the year prior to when you first started paying taxes. Also add the words nunc pro tunc which means legally what is now was then.

Abby, quoting Anna:You send a Letter of Revocation of Election to the Commissioners of both the IRS and the Internal Revenue Service and tell them that you revoke your election to pay federal income taxes beginning with October the first of last year or any prior year you choose. This is from: http://www.paulstramer.net/2017/05/dear-lucretia-mortgage-relief-and-rest.html

Abby, 1FreeMan, et al,If memory serves, Anna took it to the "exit of the womb day": original nativity. The month, day and year that is your birthdate. Or any year you want....

Nativity is one of many words born of the Latin verb nasci, which means "to be born." The gestation of the word was a long one. "Nasci" developed in Latin into nativitas, meaning "birth," which passed through Middle French as nativité before entering English in the 14th century. "Nativity" has many siblings and cousins in our language; other terms of the lineage of "nasci" include "cognate," "innate," "nascent," "native," and "renaissance."

1FreeManYou mentioned your account has been zeroed. I would be grateful if you told us how you verified that your account is zeroed. I have sent the Form 56 with the surrendered birth certificate as instructed by Anna at the end of August. I have since called the IRS to see if the account has been zeroed and there still is a balance. So I am very interested in the verification and how long it took since you sent in your docs to get your verification. Thanks for your help

Billie Joe, this is not automatic and they will never volunteer to do anything for you. Once you have surrendered the federal person to the treasury on a Fomr 56 and have retired from assumed federal service and revoked your election to pay federal income tax, you have established your position and opened your new treasury direct account for set off, you still have to push the paper to balance the books. The best way to view this is to treat it like you are setting up a new bank account and linking it to another account for funding. Once this is done, now you can start using it to pay outstanding bills. Now you need to start writing checks to pay those overdue bills and settle the accounts.If you take a look at the statement, like a CP504, they send you for any given year, look at the series of numbers at the bottom of the coupon. It starts with your SSN and ends with your outstanding balance. If you compare this amount with the amount they are dunning you for, they are exactly the same to the penny. Now you report the office this statement came from to IRS CID on a 1096/1099-A/1040-V listing them as the Borrower and your NAME as the Lender and using the amount of the balance and send that office their Copy B of the 1099-A with a letter with the following:_confirming receipt of their presentment_telling them that their presentment has been Accepted for Value and returned to them for discharge_noticing them that Form 1099-A has been filed with IRS CID on this account and their Copy B is enclosed_asking them to coordinate directly with IRS CID on this account_telling them that they have 5 business days to reply if they disagree and that if they do not respond within that time, then you will accept their agreement that this account and the outstanding amount is settled._thanking them for their assistance. Include their coupon Accepted for Value with Judge Anna's red stamp on it. The only extra thing I did was to add a date after my signature on the stamp.It took about 3 months from start to finish and I finally received a letter from another IRS office referencing my correspondence which stated "We reviewed the information you provided and determined no action is necessary on your account." Then when I looked at the attached coupons, the area that always shows your outstanding balance at the end of the string of digits at the bottom of the coupons, showed all zeroes. Going back to the original Letter CP504, I noticed that those digits showed the full outstanding balance. This was the proof that they discharged the outstanding amount and set the balance on the account to zero.Hope this helps.

1FreeMan, thanks for the explanation. I am familiar with the 1096/1099-A/1040-V forms. I better cover myself since I gave direction to U.S. Sec of Treasury on my cover letter to him with the Form 56 and surrendered BC to fill out all required forms. I better do this myself. Would you be so kind to pass on the address of the IRS CID office that you used? Thanks for your help and God Bless.

Internal Revenue Service - CIDPO Box 192Covington, KY 41012-0192Be sure to use this zip code. Anna made a typo in her zipcode instructions which the PO clerk made me aware of.This is a special PO Box number setup for HJR 192 redemption, hence PO Box 192.No need to send registered mail. A simple Certificate of Mailing will suffice and saves you money.PS: This happens to be the IRS Tax Exempt Processing Center in addition to the one in Ogden, UT. It is huge and spans the size of 3 football fields if you look it up on any mapping program and compare it to the Paul Brown Stadium across the river. It even has its own bus stop: "River Center at IRS".

Back when I looked up TDA's it said those were for federal employees. All of this undoing just doesn't sound right to me. The way I see it, we had fed tax taken from our paychecks with no choice in the matter. We were all led to believe it was a must do. Again, all fraudulent. As I see it, I now want to simply cease my strong-armed assumed Agreement to pay fed. taxes. So I see no reason why the simple Letter/Notification to IRS is not sufficient. Sort of like a Divorce, just serve the papers and they ''get it''. I also do not understand any need to return a BC to the treasury Dept. Nor do I see why a TDA is needed. Way too much complicated entanglement for me.

To one free man. I don't know if you have kids or not but trying to fight the IRS while the Federal Reserve is still in place will cause your family nothing but problems. I know from experience.The IRS has everyone's Individual Master File (IMF) fraudulently encoded with you being involved with ATF somehow. Because your a gun runner, you have to pay an excise tax on the profit and gain on your gun running business. You'll be arguing Income Tax and there silence is because they and the Judge your standing in front of both know your a gun runner and therefore must pay a portion of your profits to the IRS for the National (International) debt. Sorry, but that's the way it works.

I wouldn't advise anyone anymore to do something God is already trying to change himself because it takes God to deal with these corrupt entities. I didn't know what I know now, but if I did, it would of saved me a lot of anguish and frustration. Especially when you get the infamous 12 (b)(6) letter of not providing proff of claim in which relief can be given.

To one free man. I don't know if you have kids or not but trying to fight the IRS while the Federal Reserve is still in place will cause your family nothing but problems. I know from experience.The IRS has everyone's Individual Master File (IMF) fraudulently encoded with you being involved with ATF somehow. Because your a gun runner, you have to pay an excise tax on the profit and gain on your gun running business. You'll be arguing Income Tax and there silence is because they and the Judge your standing in front of both know your a gun runner and therefore must pay a portion of your profits to the IRS for the National (International) debt. Sorry, but that's the way it works.

I wouldn't advise anyone anymore to do something God is already trying to change himself because it takes God to deal with these corrupt entities. I didn't know what I know now, but if I did, it would of saved me a lot of anguish and frustration. Especially when you get the infamous 12 (b)(6) letter of not providing proff of claim in which relief can be given.

Awakened, it sounds like you are still asleep and do not understand the way things really work. I do not recommend that anyone fight with the IRS. They will never win. You need to respect them for who they are and realize that they are one our side. That is... if you are on the right side. Which side are you on, Awakened? Are you still on the US citizen side? Or have you retired from all assumed federal service and surrendered yoor federal,person back to the treasury? Have you expatriated your US CITIZEN status and reaffirmed your non-citizen state national status? Have you extracted yourself from US jurisdiction by applying for a Certificate of Nationaly through means of the DS-11 passport application as so directed on the Secretary of State's website to be issued a non-citizen state national passport? Have you corrected your political status on the public record? Or are you content to let them determine your status for you? If so, you will have to accept everything they throw at you because you are their employee and they are your boss. It sounds like you have been trying to fight them from within the system and got beat. That's like trying to argue with your boss because you don't like the way he is running his business. You need to turn the tables and become the employer instead. If you follow the instructions that have been laid out here for you by Judge Anna, it is not that hard to do. Yes, it will take some time and effort and paperwork but do you have a better option?If you are true believer in God then you should be aware that all power in heaven and earth was given to Jesus by the Father and in His power He delegates His authority to us to make disciples and to have dominion on the earth and to overcome and defeat the enemy. "Behold, I give unto you power (authority) to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power (ability) of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you." Luke 10:19. We are His army in this world by the power of the Holy Spirit within us.

1FreeMan - Would you mind explaining how to obtain the Certificate of Nationality that you mentioned by using the Sec. of State's website? I haven't been successful in using the DS-11 passport application. Thanks for your help

​​Hey Billie Joe, you can no longer be issued a Certificate of Nationality. They say it is because too few people were applying for it to justify adding the document security features it was missing. So in lieu of this certificate, they now instruct you to apply for this same determination by means of the DS-11 passport application to be issued a ​passport ​"​as a national but not a citizen of the United States​" ​​instead. ​See here: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal-considerations/us-citizenship-laws-policies/certificates-of-non-citizen-nationality.htmlQuoting from the site: "As the Department has received few requests, there is no justification for the creation of a non-citizen national certificate. Designing a separate document that includes anti-fraud mechanisms was seen as an inefficient expenditure of resources. Therefore, the Department determined that those who would be eligible to apply for such a certificate may instead apply for a United States passport that would delineate and certify their status ​​as a national but not a citizen of the United States.​"​​O​h​, once issued, it will look just like any other passport and you will not be able to tell the difference until they run it through NCIC (​​National Crime Information Center​, a database set up by the FBI ​which includes 21 files​: ​7 property files and 14 person files​ - https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/ncic​ ​​) so only the bureau​-rats will be able to see your true status and not your fellow patriots or other US citizens. Heaven forbid! They have to keep the truth hidden as much as possible, right? A Certificate was just way too ​much ​visible ​proof ​in plain sight. And stamping 'non-citizen New York state national' right there in your passport for all the world to see, would be a dead giveaway. ​ ​So as always, it remains hidden from the public.​ But there is a way to make it public (more on that later).​ Now​,​ you will need to complete the DS-11 as a non-US-citizen state national of your birth state and state Citizen of your domicile state (notice the capital C which is not a 14th-amendment-US-citizen but a constitutional state Citizen who is part of the government of the people, by the people and for the people of your domicile state). ​You will also need to caveat your signature and add an Explanatory Statement ​to explain why you are not including your SSN on the application and what your true and correct national status is. This application procedure requires a bit of education to learn how to complete correctly for which I would highly recommend the training at destinationfreedom.org. Christopher Gronski who runs the site and the training has been doing this for years and ​can help you get the results you want.​ There are several people on the internet claiming to know how to fill out the DS-11 but most of them are not accurate or complete and you may not get the right results.​ ​ This is too important to not do it right.​ Note that it will cost you a few dollars to educate yourself but what you invest will save you many times over in tickets, law suits, foreclosures, taxes and even keep you out of jail unless you commit a capital crime. The best part will be when a police officer apologizes for stopping you and sends you on your way and all you gave him for ID was your passport card and not your driver's license. Talk about turning the tables.

1FreeMan - thank you so much for this information. I have squandered plenty of dollars trying to take me out this system, so finally spending a few dollars and the required time to get the results I really need at this time for my particular situation is a God send. Thanks again and God bless. P.S. I sure hope others are taking notice of this vital information you are providing.

Annna says "we lay claim to the harmful copyrights, patents, and trademarks in the name of the actual government of this country." Questions: 1) Why would the de facto "government" listen to the claim that "we" make, or recognize the standing of (or even be able to hear) "we"? 2) Granted, the copyrights, patents, and trademarks involved are harmful. If we claim them as our own, do they then become benign? If not...Instead of claiming them as belonging to us, why not insist that they are invalid, on the basis that a criminal act cannot be patented, trademarked or copyrighted? If they are, indeed, invalid, would not all the actions done under their "authority" be null and void as fruit of the poisoned tree?

Is there a step-bt-step process with templates and specific instructions as to what to send how to whom?? I have completed the steps outlined in Anna's Article #560, but had questions and had to just make "ASSUMPTIONS" which has put people in prison. The complete prodedure and how to respond after completion is desparately needed by many of us. Yes, I have donated and will again, and again as long as we see progress. I am 1000000% with Anna and Paul.

Doonstr, I have not done this since I am self employed, but as I understand it, you would simply file a W-8BEN with your employer instead of a W-4 as a non-citizen state national and non-resident alien. Perhaps someone else on this blog can help with how to properly complete this form?

My money is betting that the elites win and nothing gets done about anything. If the elites were worried that Anna found that "silver bullet" that would endanger their scheme, we would find her dead of any multiple scenarios!!! "Supposedly" armed home invasion, suicide, armed robbery gone bad, a car accident with no witnesses, etc. etc. etc. Been done to many people before and will happen again if anyone stands in the way of their agenda. So, as usual, more "hopium" for the masses!!!

In 19+63 "they" were so bold as to have JFK shot in broad daylight and so entrenched with "their" players in the system as to openly manipulate the entire so called process from then til yet today. However one 8mm bystander's film(more covered up) put an alternate light on the "storyline", as well as many with plenty to say "they" didn't eliminate, payoff, threatened or disappeared;to where now only sheeply sychophant's buy what the Warren Commission force fed the media.Today however camera's are literally everywhere and in place least expected= even on private property both inside and out as well as trail cameras with video can go online as it is taken and go viral in minutes by those that pick it up.Moreover Anna+Jim I would dare guess are very wary and armed to the teeth= some hired idiots or even pro's may be found dead trying to evince a home "invasion scenario" in Alaska. Moreover strangers there would stand out bigtime and certainly the Reisingers have many friends looking out for them(esp- w/cell+2way communicado) and also heavily armed as are most folks in Alaska.The paper trail is long and too extensive to cover up as to who just Anna really was to those "powers that be".

JFK however only had the opportunity to mention those powers once publicly before then being lured to Dallas with his VP - LBJ a true "company plant" ready in the wings. They didn't dare touch WWII hero Ike but scared him enough to where he only whispered of "their" powers in his farewell address as the "Military Industrial Complex".I believe it was he that made the "true world control" privy to JFK after he was summoned to the White House in the Bay of Pigs Fiasco and so called Cuban Missile Crisis that left Kennedy apoplectic and needing real advice(not from Bobby, Ted or dad).That "hit" was the 4th successful assanation of an American president with several other frustrated and failed attempts.However just if "they" with "their" Deep-State entrenchment and host of liars can't remove Trump from office and somehow control VP Pence will have to take them both out at the same time- which means they must never fly together as the 2,000-plus missing Stinger Rocket Launchers that Hilliar'y +The Obamanation illegally sent to their unConstitution Libya fronted fiasco to arm their Syrian "Redline" Freedom Fighters that turned out to be ISIS.Multiple use of those weapons would overcome AirForce One's defenses. They're all still missing- but someone has them.Just thinking outloud here.

O Ye of little Faith. GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED indefinitely. If God allows us to fall, then it will be for His own good pleasure and our benefit for eternity. I will tell you this. It's because too many people have your attitude and lack of Faith in God that we are IN THIS MESS IN THE FIRST PLACE. You can't even put your name on your posts. So why, as the blog admin should I continue to allow you to post here?

A Hopi Elder a few years back pointed out that corporations then outnumbered nations. There are more corporate U.S. Citizens that there are people who think they are U.S. Citizens. Corporations seem to me like false gods. They cannot be seen yet we see examples of their doings in peoples actions, on trucks and cars, names on buildings or papers yet never in person. We see God's creation all around us, water, air, the entire Universe, yet these corporations that have only one purpose, to make a profit for shareholders ( and that is what you are taught in accounting right from the Rockefeller Center) eat everything in their path, spreading a trail of poison fruit, damaging many things and just keep on spewing out profits in one way of the other for holders or worshipers of such false powers that do not follow God's rule but the rule of greed, power and love of money.

So we are now into another week and Nov. 4 is coming right up; the day antifa vows to stir up their rioting/disturbances.....and at the same time DoD plans to do their so called ''drill to simulate'' an emp strike/grid down. Both of these events are slated to be nationwide. Just in case they go forth, its a good idea to get all our ducks in a row. I have to wonder if they deliberately waited till cold weather like this, no heat, electricity, lights, cellphones or any communication working - - what are they up to. Also have to wonder why Trump has not said one word about any of this; is he out of the loop or playing along. Can so many Alt News sources be exaggerating these events?Just sayin'

I'm aware of patents office corruptions. That's why I didn't care to file/disclose anything to the crooks. Judge Anna: Are you saying we can reclaim what was taken from the inventors? I believe we can use great invention to pressure the crooks to convey their fraudulent liens on us. The crooks won't win the Russians, Chinese, DRPK etc, because they spent time in the last 55 years on defrauding us. Even if we can reclaim our inventions back, the crooks won't let go. They want to bleed us to death. I knew all of these events ahead of time, that's why keeping secret inventions away from the crooks was the best decision.

Note: It seems there is far more being cooked up than what any of us wants to hear which may disrupt all our plans. Hope Anna and Crew are aware of this:www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2017/10/30/the-us-gov-agrees-to-a-un-military-takeover-in-the-event-of-civil-unrest-on-american-soil

With what is planned for Nov. 4, I am suspecting 'they' are using that to deliberately create the necessary ''unrest'' they desire, as an excuse to do this 'takeover'.

A funny thought popped into my mind first thing this morning, for what its worth. But the thought was ''if there is a power outage, fill the bathtub with water, so you will have water to flush the toilet''. Now did any of us think of that? Probably not, but very very important.Anyhow, God chased me down many decades ago, and of that there is NO doubt. He came looking for me, I didn't go looking for Him. He wanted to be 'a Father unto me''. Its quite an interesting testimony how he corralled me, made all the arrangements, and brought me to Him. A Father is to look after His Children, and so now I am His responsibility. What problems may arise, now they are His Problems.And I am just not willing to be any pawn in the devils hands, to do as he pleases. I am not willing to get killed or manhandled for anyone. Period ! And that is that !I had nothing to do with this condition of our country, and I am not going to 'pay any price' because of it. I don't have any martyr complex, nor do I have a poverty mentality. If the majority of mankind has been too stupid to turn down the great offer that Christ gave them, then thats just too bad for them. There is no cure for stupid.

So far everything they have been predicting hasnt come true..and i dont care if you call people muslims or radicalized jihadist, we would be doing all of them a favor if they all converted to christianity, for their own sake, because Alla simply doesnt exsist...there has been numerous NDE(Near death expexiances) now involving regular non violent muslims(if we are to believe that) that have come back from their death experiances saying that all they saw was Jesus...!! No one else..!! And the first words out of his mouth is "I never knew you"..!! Can you imagine hearing that from our creator...i cant think of something more horrible than the sourse of all "LOVE" tells you "he never knew you"..Foretunately, for some of them, he sends them back so they can give testamoney to their experiance..But there are so many muslims that the message never gets to all the masses..!! I dont know how many people can be so deceived as the muslims...!! Obviously, there is a reason for it..!!

James, becoming a Christian is far more involved than mentally deciding to change from one Party to the other Party. It requires an entire mind set change that has to come from the heart. Few if any muslims are ever gonna do that. They would have to come to SEE they have been misled and totally abandon all of that junk. Lip service will not do, not at all. Even within 'church circles' all they are doing is twisting people arms, and verbally persuading them ''to just accept Jesus'. There is NO salvation in that either. This is why we have so many claiming to be christians, but they bear NO christian fruit whatsoever. They are just giddy deceived nut cases.There is scripture that says 'with their lips they honor Me, but their Heart is far from Me'.See, even God condemns 'lip service fake christians'.Jesus also said ''Why do you call me Lord, when you do not DO what I say'? In other words, Jesus was saying they are wasting their time trying to appear as christians on the outside but on the inside they are phonies and fakes, and He knows it.

I totally agree with you pn that ome Abby....I have neen conned oit pf money by so called christians than any other group of people pr religions...what a sad testimonial..!! The true christian population is much like the patriot commununity....its only at most 1% that are true christians...the rest just go along with the latest flavor pf the day.. I came in contact with a family that was not only all christian, but the two older sons were studying to be pastors... So i believed him when he said he could help me start a business tjat he was involved with for years...the egg business..!! I contributed all the money, eventually giving him $120,000 and told me things are moving along just fine... until i ran out of money and asked him what is hoing on...no response after numerous calls. Je lnew we were in a desperate situation ourselves at that point..But we are well awate that when people avoid you, it is never good...and both his sons knew and was aware that we were trying to get ahold of him. Amd so was his wife where the money was deposited.. so she knew too and told us, i dont know anything, its between you and Brad...RIGHT!! ALL Of you knew where he got the money, but all of a sudden we have to talk to brad, who wont answer his calls, to deal with it....i hope everyone in the fdmily was cursed for taking that money and never giving us anythink back for it or at least acknowleging he owed us....But he never did and neither did his wife or kids, which appeartantly were more important than us...!! In fact you know it is bad when i relate my story to others, the first thing they say is, that all christians who ask for money are scammers...we have become as bad as muslims in the secular world...and its well deserved...!!!!

James, beware wolves in sheeps clothing. There are lots of indications in the bible scriptures that allude to fake 'christians'. Few people at all can be trusted. We have to look at their actions, and know them well, which today is almost impossible. They only way those people who lied to you and stole from you then hid from you, could ever get right, would be for them to return your money to you. And that is obviously not going to happen, so their fate is sealed. As for anyone ''going to school to learn to be a preacher'' well, that is all a farce. No school can teach anyone to preach. True preaching has to come directly from God, at the moment it is preached. Otherwise it is just their own opinion and coming from themSelves. Did you know that most if not all 'pastors' today buy sermons written by others, and those writers are not even Christians?Very few pastors are even qualified to write a truthful genuine sermon, but I suppose there may be a few. I could tell you within listening for just a few short minutes if they are biblically correct or full of hot air fakes. And I wouldn't even call myself a bible expert by any means, but I am good at recognizing bullschitt when I hear it, plus I get the 'red alert' button go off inside me, lol.Your estimate of 1% is close to the real number; probably more like 0.0000001%God was not involved in the writing of any Quran, therefore it is a manmade book and has no reliability. Muslims have no active God and their mohammad is dead as a doornail and cannot hear them nor respond. They do ''moonies' 5 times a day all for nought.

James, the greatest deception today is that Islam is against Christianity. This is not so. If muslims would only read and believe and accept what their Qu'ran tells them. First of all Allah does exist. The word Allah simply means God. Just type Allah into Google translate and it will translate it as God. The Arabic Christian bible calls God Allah. So it really all depends on who you define as God. Second, The Qu'ran states in Surah 3:3 that it is not saying anything new but rather confirms what came before it which God gave in the Taurat (Torah or the Law of Moses) and the Injeel (Gospel of Jesus). In Surah 3:45 Isa (Jesus) is called the “Al-Masih” which is translated as “Messiah” which means the “Anointed” of God. Marium (Mary) is addressed and told that Allah gives her good news with a Word from Him whose name is the Al-Masih (Messiah), Isa (Jesus) who is worthy of regard (great honor) in this world and the hereafter. So the Qur’an confirms beyond any doubt that Isa (Jesus) is Al-Masih (The Messiah) and the Anointed One of God. If any Muslim come against a Christian or Christianity, he is dishonoring Isa Al-Masih, Allah and the Qu'ran. Isa (Jesus) is the only one called Al-Masih (Messiah) in the Qu'ran and no one else. In Surah 10:94 the Qu'ran even instructs those who are in doubt of what has been revealed to them, to go and "ask those who have been reading the Book (the Torah and the Gospel Scriptures) before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters." Check out this article for details: https://yahministries.wordpress.com/2016/09/25/jesus-al-masih-in-the-quran/There is a testimony of an Islam imam who was reading Surah 10:94 and said out loud "Allah, how can this be that you tell us to go ask the Christians. Don't we have the truth? But I will obey and go ask them." He did and when he heard the gospel (Injeel) and read it for himself, he became a born again believer. Here is his testimony:https://youtu.be/vxJiCBMecb0All the hate speech you hear today is merely political propaganda pushed by the zionist satanists cabal misquoting the Qu'ran and seeking to pit Muslims against Christians to instigate war in an attempt to have them kill each other.

Actually, i meant "mohammad". But everything on the surface seems to talk about peace, umtil you dig deeper and see they real message of hate.. Do you see any other religion except muslims blowing up buildings or using vechicles to run over people...NO, only muslims..!! If the radical side of them represents only a small portion of their religion why dont they handle this problem themselves, internally!! And bring them to justice..!! How hard can that be..Instead they want the entire world to deal with a problem they started..!! Thats why no body believes them..!!

So far everything they have been predicting hasnt come true..and i dont care if you call people muslims or radicalized jihadist, we would be doing all of them a favor if they all converted to christianity, for their own sake, because Alla simply doesnt exsist...there has been numerous NDE(Near death expexiances) now involving regular non violent muslims(if we are to believe that) that have come back from their death experiances saying that all they saw was Jesus...!! No one else..!! And the first words out of his mouth is "I never knew you"..!! Can you imagine hearing that from our creator...i cant think of something more horrible than the sourse of all "LOVE" tells you "he never knew you"..Foretunately, for some of them, he sends them back so they can give testamoney to their experiance..But there are so many muslims that the message never gets to all the masses..!! I dont know how many people can be so deceived as the muslims...!! Obviously, there is a reason for it..!!

James, it's not about what religion they are or claim to be, even if they claim to be Christian, but whether they are spiritually regenerated by the washing of the word and of the spirit. Jesus said that if not, they cannot see or enter the kingdom.Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. Romans 8:7-9

1FreeMan......exactly! And unfortunately, that regeneration cannot even be explained nor conveyed from one being to another. Each time I have mentioned it to various self-proclaiming christians over the years, they have no idea what I am talking about.

I tend to think there are few NDE's. They can easily be made up by people seeing their '15 minutes of fame' which cannot be proven nor disproven. We can however detect by what they tell, whether it is biblically lining up with the Word, or not. There must also be a distinct purpose outcome from them; if there is none, then its most likely nothing but bunk. As Galatians 1 makes clear, there is only One Truth. So when we see all these denominations, each with their own belief system, then we know there is fallacy everywhere. God never ever made any of these denominations; He is not coming for methodists, baptists, lutherans, catholics; they are all manmade. None of them are in the bible, but what is there are churches at various locations; ephesus, corinth, galacia, etc. But Paul and the Apostles taught them all the exact same thing, without personal preferences, likes or dislikes. This is why we should all get our Truth from the great Teacher, Paul.When your pastors vary from those teachings, then its time to get up and walk out. Everything should be included, nothing left out, no skipping the hard parts.

No Abby...not a few, but thousands of NDE and all over the world.. Thrre was a journalist that went all over the world to document all these NDE's. And it crosses all barriers, relegiously...jews, christians, muslims, buddist, monks, atheist, people who never new God at all even...and they all have the same story...overwhelming love and if they do encounter anyone, its always Jesus...always..!! I dont know why it is such a surprise....didnt he tell us in the last days that there will be such an abundance of his presence and explosion of info(the internet) that mo ome can say he didnt try...!! In other words , he promised that the bible alone will only be one source..But to others who are more like Thomas, he has provided scientific proof of his word...part of it has to do with DNA coding..!! Scientist have dicovered a code in Our DNA that is in arabic and when translated basiclly says he lives within in us all..!! Now they are starting to find out there are layers of messages within the code...!! Dont get stuck in the mentality that he only gave us one sourse for his exsistance...!! That simply isnt true..!!In fact when i testify about jesus to other religions or non believers, i usually show them the bible and tell them is this your reason for not believing....then i take the bible and toss itin the trash right in front of them... then i tell them , lets talk about science and fact and just open your eyes...then i bring up everything exvept the bible to prove it..they are generally way more receptive when i do that...!!

James, I never said the bible is the only exposure people would have to God. What I said was, what people tell for an experience must line up with the Word of God. And it does not take an NDE to have such an encounter on the outside. Look at the donkey who spoke. Look at the burning bush incident. Look at the parting of the sea, the people walked across, and then God closed it back up with the water again. But I must differ on one of your points. No, God is not IN all of us (good grief, that would be pretty unbearable in many cases). But we all have that 'something' in us that is an innate 'knowing' that there is a true God. It is just 'there' and no man can really explain it. God, in the person of the Holy Spirit, only enters Into a person upon his true and earnest salvation. He does not reside in heathens, god haters, evil doers; why would he when He is not welcome. Scientists have discovered. Really? I honestly don't believe that DNA contains any languages at all. Or messages. For them to attempt to declare that it indicates 'God is in us all'' is contrary to the very Word of God. There is not a single scripture that indicates any such thing. Therefore, such a claim must be declared as bunk.

Thats what makes me believe that the bible is not complete or rewitten, because i believe certain things were intensionally removed from the original bible...by some authorities up to at least 7 chap and maybe more...!! Paul you mentioned a bible i have never heard of...Douay-Rheims bible..!! Who come we havent heard of this bible and what is different about it that makes it better...???? Why arent we using it if its better....Everyone tells us the KJB is the best and most accurate...!! And i know King James hated all the references to Kings and their corruption , because there has been good ones, but not many...!! But Abby, its immpossible to argue "scientific eveidence" when properly vetted and done honestly by professionals using highly accurate equipment...!! Just google in "gods word reveiled in our DNA code"...remember i am a pre med major and euite familiar with the molecule of "LIFE ON EARTH". I could never understand why DNA testing was never completely 100%.. It is always like 99.89%..But why..!! It turns out that a small part of the code could never be cracked or what it was for...so finnally someone just had an idea...maybe it wasnt code as they knew it...possibly it was a language..So a message was sent out all over the world to universities to see if anyone could recoginize the sequence of the letters representing only the first letter of the amino acids(4 of them) which are always paired to see if it was related to a language rather than a code sequence of just amino acids....and as it turns out, it was indeed regognized as a language....Arabic, the same language of Jesus...once that was discovered it was finally translated...that would also answer the question how we are all connected spiritually.. didnt Jesus always call everyone his brothers and sisters..!!

Thats what makes me believe that the bible is not complete or rewitten, because i believe certain things were intensionally removed from the original bible...by some authorities up to at least 7 chap and maybe more...!! Paul you mentioned a bible i have never heard of...Douay-Rheims bible..!! Who come we havent heard of this bible and what is different about it that makes it better...???? Why arent we using it if its better....Everyone tells us the KJB is the best and most accurate...!! And i know King James hated all the references to Kings and their corruption , because there has been good ones, but not many...!! But Abby, its immpossible to argue "scientific eveidence" when properly vetted and done honestly by professionals using highly accurate equipment...!! Just google in "gods word reveiled in our DNA code"...remember i am a pre med major and euite familiar with the molecule of "LIFE ON EARTH". I could never understand why DNA testing was never completely 100%.. It is always like 99.89%..But why..!! It turns out that a small part of the code could never be cracked or what it was for...so finnally someone just had an idea...maybe it wasnt code as they knew it...possibly it was a language..So a message was sent out all over the world to universities to see if anyone could recoginize the sequence of the letters representing only the first letter of the amino acids(4 of them) which are always paired to see if it was related to a language rather than a code sequence of just amino acids....and as it turns out, it was indeed regognized as a language....Arabic, the same language of Jesus...once that was discovered it was finally translated...that would also answer the question how we are all connected spiritually.. didnt Jesus always call everyone his brothers and sisters..!!

Annna says "we lay claim to the harmful copyrights, patents, and trademarks in the name of the actual government of this country." Questions: 1) Why would the de facto "government" listen to the claim that "we" make, or recognize the standing of (or even be able to hear) "we"? 2) Granted, the copyrights, patents, and trademarks involved are harmful. If we claim them as our own, do they then become benign? If not...Instead of claiming them as belonging to us, why not insist that they are invalid, on the basis that a criminal act cannot be patented, trademarked or copyrighted? If they are, indeed, invalid, would not all the actions done under their "authority" be null and void as fruit of the poisoned tree?

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