If u read some of my older posts i had a HUGE problem with the hok epoxy. it was so bad i ended up stripping it off an entire car... and it adhered so poorly that 95% of each panel i used a razorblade to scrape it off and it came off in huge sheets.. i tried it with a metal etch.. without a metal etch... just didnt work..

I now only use the SPI epoxy.. im not gonna say that is the only stuff that works but there is nothing good about the hok epoxt.. and i even here ppg's new epoxy isnt all that either.