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Effective immediately we will be deleting, without notice, any negative threads or posts that deal with the use of encryption and streaming of scanner audio.

We've noticed a huge increase in rants and negative posts that revolve around agencies going to encryption due to the broadcasting of scanner audio on the internet. It's now worn out and continues to be the same recycled rants. These rants hijack the threads and derail the conversation. They no longer have a place anywhere on this forum other than in the designated threads in the Rants forum in the Tavern.

If you violate these guidelines your post will be deleted without notice and an infraction will be issued. We are not against discussion of this issue. You just need to do it in the right place. For example:
https://forums.radioreference.com/rants/224104-official-thread-live-audio-feeds-scanners-wait-encryption.html

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i dont want to burn any bridges so i will just say that there is alot more evidence from the car at fault and its passengers that whn its all made public many people will be upset. the 4 innocent kids who died were great cleancut kids and nothing points to them being in the wrong at all. the maggot who caused the wreck was just that,a maggot!. it was the worst wreck i have ever covered. the conditions of 4 of the 6 victims are not even worth mentioning in public forum. They pulled one of the passengers from the car at fault and tried to revive her at the scene but she was gone. i honestly wish that when the investigion is over that i could produce a psa commercial about the wreck and how it ended and send it to wherever and get it on the air to show people what certain things can lead to. i have seen the very worst of accidents over the years and i usually forget about them by the next day however this wreck has been in my thoughts every day since it happened.

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I usually use high explosives on my bridges. Needless to say folks, the car that caused the crash was found to contain "a white powdery substance" I think is how it was described. Also, the driver and passenger of the car that caused the crash were both convicted felons I believe and the guy (driver) had just gotten out of prison recently for one of many convictions including...yep, you guessed it, drug possesion.

I don't think the medical examiner has released a toxicology report to the media yet. It didn't look good though.

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there were 3 people in the car that caused the wreck. and there were things found after the wreck at different locations pertaining to one of the dead passengers in the car at fault.
the only survivor from that car at fault was taken to the hospital and you would be shocked to hear what was learned there. im sure one can only imagine at this day and age where when youve thought youve heard it all something else happens and takes the cake..

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Are you not allowed to release what you know, or is it just that you don't want to go over it again?

When I was in collage I drove like a freaking idiot. Then a friend of mine went garage selling and found one of the old "Blood on the Highway" Driver's Ed movies they use to make kids watch back in the 50s and 60s. That movie shocked some sense into me. I mean it REALLY worked.

I agree that incidents like these should be used for PSAs. Even if it would save lives, the grief-councelling libs would never allow it.

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id like to release what i know but then the troopers would never tell me anything again, i happened to be at the scene after the trooper went to the hospital and came back and he told me what had been learned since the accident. theres really no criminal investigation going on since the driver who caused the wreck died but it would still be bad if i said it in public. i know the trooper very well and i will be seeing him this weekend and will ask if i can say what i know or not. i know they released a media statement about the white powder but what i was told had nothing to do with what was found at the scene in the car.it was all found at the hospital and in the notification process.

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Unfortunately, I clicked on the link to the KTUL article about this accident. After reading the article, I clicked on the "related articles" link to see if I could find out more. About half way down the page, there was a story about a boat crash at Lake Texoma. Can you imagine my shock(almost fell out of my chair) when I read the names of a former employer(Gordon Mineo), his wife(Ann) and their daughter(Amy) that were killed. I worked for Gordon for about a year back in the early 90's as the crew chief of his fuel funny car. I've ridden in that boat many times. Gordon was a good friend, not always the greatest guy to work for, but, still a friend. Ann was a saint, she brought me lunch every day and always made sure we had plenty of food while we were at the race track. Amy was just about 10 or 12 back then. I'll miss them all.
Ted