So, will Orgrimmar get a bunch of new NPCs after this raid? Seems like you kill a lot of them. Thathung is an auctioneer. Overlord Runthak completes the Onyxia head quest. Warlock trainers get killed off as well. I definitely don't like this. Neeru Fireblade had it coming though, I still remember him being a traitor working for the Burning Blade in vanilla.

Oh, and the so called righteous rebels even get to kill some innocent Orc NPCs. Seems kinda racist, which is ironic isn't it? Bunch of hypocrits. Definitely a raid I'm never going to play.

if they choose to side with garrosh how are they innocent? but youre not going to play over that? youre a silly goose

Agreed, though here she and the Sentinels are curbstomping Korkron which is something I want to see more of.

It won't happen. The horde playerbase isn't allowed to feel punished more than the siege itself.

you know I just realized. The timeless isle reveal showing all the horde and alliance leaders stood over Garrosh, it also has Taran zhu there, the one actually standing over his corpse.

If I'm right, Taran will be the one giving a speech at the end about the consequences of both there factions, putting Thrall and Varian at a stand off, but he being the one using his line of 'just walk away'.

If I'm right, Taran will be the one giving a speech at the end about the consequences of both there factions, putting Thrall and Varian at a stand off, but he being the one using his line of 'just walk away'.

I wouldnt see that likely
Varian is all 'tame' now.
But if you replace him with Jaina...........

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Originally Posted by Redrun

if they choose to side with garrosh how are they innocent?

Choosing his 'side' dsnt mean you completely 100% believe in everything he does/says
Like Nazgrim, many of these Orcs can be defending Org because...well......its their god dam city, its their homeland, and its there people, and god forbid they stand by while all that shit burns

Its like WW2, with the German Generals and the Nazis. Not everyone in the military was an advent Nazi, but they sure as hell are not gonna go home instead of lending their skills to fight for their nation, and to make sure it dsnt suffer and burn in defeat

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Originally Posted by Moon Blade

It won't happen. The horde playerbase isn't allowed to feel punished more than the siege itself.

One of the main reasons this entire story arc has sucked. Its a total defeat for all orcs no matter what way you slice it. Not sure if blizzard want the orcs to be down in the ditch or if it was just an oversight.

Lots of orcish heroes are dead, lots of regular orcs are dead, Orgrimmar will inevitably be damaged by the siege and after all of this the orcs are left in their weakest state since the end of the second war and some players have the bare-faced cheek to say that the Alliance has it bad.

because the alliance wants the complete annihilation of all the races of the Horde

The Horde losing a few familiar NPCs is supposed to be on par with the Alliance having lost entire cities. I see.

As with most of the Post-WOTLK Alliance/Horde lore, i'm not really buying it. Still, it's a good time to be a Horde player (at heart that is; i'm Alliance at heart, Horde as a player); what with being able to dump all your MoP/Pre-MoP sins onto big bad Garrosh and his big bad followers. The 'real'/Player Horde (these so-called Rebels) suffer no real 'defeat' at all during this raid; more than can be said for the 'real'/Player Alliance prior to it.

Entire cities you say? You mean... Theramore... where all the important NPCs either died, or fled and are alive.

or Gilneas.... that has all it's NPCS survive and spread around the world.

Yes, the Alliance really lost out on having more space than the Horde prior, The Alliance totally got shafted when the game was made MORE EQUAL.

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Originally Posted by Moon Blade

Agreed, though here she and the Sentinels are curbstomping Korkron which is something I want to see more of.

It won't happen. The horde playerbase isn't allowed to feel punished more than the siege itself.

Ironically, it seems Alliance players like to push, but never get Punshed Back.

WHY IS THAT HORDE WARMACHINE ATTACKING ASHENVALE AND WINNING. ITS ALMOST LIKE THEY OUTNUMBER THE NIGHT ELVES!

On a side note though, now i may not be a medic but falling from a dragon due to machine gun fire seems like a good way to terminate a pregnancy. I mean puts the whole falling down a staircase cliche to shame

On a side note though, now i may not be a medic but falling from a dragon due to machine gun fire seems like a good way to terminate a pregnancy. I mean puts the whole falling down a staircase cliche to shame

I do wonder, what with their physical resilience and how Christie Golden's worked on the Star Trek universe as well, whether they're not like Klingons. Having extra organs and tissue structures that can be repurposed as organs while they heal.

I do wonder, what with their physical resilience and how Christie Golden's worked on the Star Trek universe as well, whether they're not like Klingons. Having extra organs and tissue structures that can be repurposed as organs while they heal.

I for one have also related the orcs to being based off the Klingons. Still need a Worf cameo/parody though. And a Data cameo...ah hell, and entire TNG cameo would be wonderful.

OT: Seriously, these pictures just have me wanting to explore the city and see what they did with it. All kinds of stuff. I love it when they take what you've been seeing for years an involve in major confrontations...as long as it's done right. Dragon Soul is NOT an example of it being done right....