There is only one way to prevent this senseless loss of life in the future. We must rally Congress to ban law enforcement officers. Only when our streets are purged of this wicked plague can we truly be safe.

adenosine:Jument: Either way, you shouldn't be smoking anywhere in an apartment complex. Even if it's perfectly legal, it's a way stronger smell than cigarette smoke.

No, cigs smell way worse. My neighbors partake on occasion late at night and they are nothing compared to the prior guys that would smoke cigs. The main problem I have is that there is no way for me to lawfully buy some so I can join in on the fun.

Yep, cigs are way worse and smell permeates and lingers unlike cannabis.

Hell, I used to vape cannabis (even less smelly than smoking) when I had a strait edge roommate that claimed she could 'always smell it, every time, even on clothes afterwards'. She was clueless. I know because she would definitely have lectured me if she knew.

Also, driving while high on cannabis is simply not a real problem, but it is the new 'hey whoa, let's not let people just use cannabis freely' talkingpoint campaign.

According to that page, and assuming similar LD50 in humans (a stretch, I know...), a 175lb human would have to ingest 521.4 grams of pure THC to have a likely chance of a fatality. Think about what it would take to come up with that much pure THC and tell me people OD on pot. I'd be impressed if anyone in the world could smoke half of that in a single day.

That's a study done on fatalities related to marijuana compared to 17 other FDA approved drugs. They found zero deaths directly caused by pot. Every other drug had numerous deaths directly attributed to it. For instance, Viagra had 2254 deaths directly tied to the drug itself, and Ritalin had 121. Marinol even had 4 deaths in the study, yet pot had zero.

mjbok:This is the thing that I don't get. Plenty of people deny that there is any impairment, even though NORML admits that it does. If NORML says anything bad about pot I think you can take it at face value, because it is not their goal to demonize weed.

Yeah, clearly, I agree. It really just goes against anyone's experience who has not only used it (and suffered fairly huge losses in their ability to concentrate and coordinate) or even simply seen it used and watched their high friends bumble about giggling. The idea that you're not impaired while high is downright bizarre to me.

Old Man Winter:I've no doubt pot will be legal in all 50 in my lifetime and that doesn't t bother me especially when we start taxing the shiat out of it, which we will.That said, people die from pot all the time, we just call it accidental deaths. 20 years back in high school I was at a party and we were all high. One very normal kid got it in his head to jump out a window, lands wrong breaks his neck and dies a few days later. Accident,.Another friend normally a very conscientious driver, had been smoking all day, got hungry, went to get food and tried to beat a train at a crossing. Didn't make it. Accident.Those were just two I personally knew. My mom used to tell me a story about when she was young in the late '60's. On a roadtrip, her and a group had been driving and smoking and one guy gets them to stop on a stretch near a farm. He wanted to see a bull up close. Gored and repeatedly trampled. Accident.People do stupid things when they are high and consistent users consistently do stupid things.

there is a strong possibility that these same people were simply prone to doing stupid things. in time they would have done the same or similar things after a few drinks, if they were tired, on a dare, or just because they did stupid things. "People do stupid things when they are high and consistent users consistently do stupid things." is a broad brush statement that goes from Dumb to Dumber. Congratulations.

Jument:Either way, you shouldn't be smoking anywhere in an apartment complex. Even if it's perfectly legal, it's a way stronger smell than cigarette smoke.

No, cigs smell way worse. My neighbors partake on occasion late at night and they are nothing compared to the prior guys that would smoke cigs. The main problem I have is that there is no way for me to lawfully buy some so I can join in on the fun.

Old Man Winter:I've no doubt pot will be legal in all 50 in my lifetime and that doesn't t bother me especially when we start taxing the shiat out of it, which we will.That said, people die from pot all the time, we just call it accidental deaths. 20 years back in high school I was at a party and we were all high. One very normal kid got it in his head to jump out a window, lands wrong breaks his neck and dies a few days later. Accident,.Another friend normally a very conscientious driver, had been smoking all day, got hungry, went to get food and tried to beat a train at a crossing. Didn't make it. Accident.Those were just two I personally knew. My mom used to tell me a story about when she was young in the late '60's. On a roadtrip, her and a group had been driving and smoking and one guy gets them to stop on a stretch near a farm. He wanted to see a bull up close. Gored and repeatedly trampled. Accident.People do stupid things when they are high and consistent users consistently do stupid things.

teenage mutant ninja rapist:ladyfortuna: It didn't occur to me the first time I looked at this, but I once met someone who was bipolar and went off his meds and decided to smoke some pot because it was his birthday. I was interning with a police department and the apartment complex security called the PD up to handle it (rightly so, in my opinion). He was extremely mellow and I doubt he was a threat, but when the officers asked him the date and his address, he couldn't answer. Inability to answer those questions would scare the hell out of me. We ended up taking him to the hospital as a precaution; I suspect his wife who came home in the middle of all the excitement probably read him the riot act later...

He was mellow? The first thing everyone involved should have done was mind their own damned business.he was mellow. Not harming anyone.

why the need to hassle the man?

there isnt one. If he wasnt a danger to himself or others.everyone else should have farked off and let him be

Excellent call, because someone who is "mellow" and cannot remember the date of where they live could not possibly be having a real medical problem like a stroke!

ladyfortuna:It didn't occur to me the first time I looked at this, but I once met someone who was bipolar and went off his meds and decided to smoke some pot because it was his birthday. I was interning with a police department and the apartment complex security called the PD up to handle it (rightly so, in my opinion). He was extremely mellow and I doubt he was a threat, but when the officers asked him the date and his address, he couldn't answer. Inability to answer those questions would scare the hell out of me. We ended up taking him to the hospital as a precaution; I suspect his wife who came home in the middle of all the excitement probably read him the riot act later...

He was mellow? The first thing everyone involved should have done was mind their own damned business.he was mellow. Not harming anyone.

why the need to hassle the man?

there isnt one. If he wasnt a danger to himself or others.everyone else should have farked off and let him be