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I didn't read it...was too excited about my new car and just signed it....I just took their words that they said "Well if the MV amount is less than what you paid for we will refund you the money. Now if you can just sign right here...."

You should never sign a contract without reading and understanding it, as well as getting any stipulations in writing.

There should be NO estimate of anything. If they don't know what the fee is, they are lying or stupid.

Doc fee is whatever the dealer wants to charge. In Mass, the fee is usually written in specifically on the sales contract and the sales guys cannot change it. But guess what? When you're making your deal, ask them what it is. They will tell you. Then use that in your negotiations. Some states (Rhode Island, for example) limit the doc fee by law. There, it cannot exceed $5. Some dealers include something for that fee making it less bogus. Maybe inspection sticker, maybe the runner's fee, maybe a full tank of gas, maybe coupons for the first service. This is not set in stone by anyone. You need to be aware and negotiate around it.

There should be NO estimate of anything. If they don't know what the fee is, they are lying or stupid.

Doc fee is whatever the dealer wants to charge. In Mass, the fee is usually written in specifically on the sales contract and the sales guys cannot change it. But guess what? When you're making your deal, ask them what it is. They will tell you. Then use that in your negotiations. Some states (Rhode Island, for example) limit the doc fee by law. There, it cannot exceed $5. Some dealers include something for that fee making it less bogus. Maybe inspection sticker, maybe the runner's fee, maybe a full tank of gas, maybe coupons for the first service. This is not set in stone by anyone. You need to be aware and negotiate around it.

It was my first time buying a brand new car off a dealership I didn't know any better...

I live in NYC but purchased my car in NJ. Registered my new subie in NYC.

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Originally Posted by Jack ffr1846

There should be NO estimate of anything. If they don't know what the fee is, they are lying or stupid.

Since he bought the car in NJ, dealers here are not going to be familiar with the exact fees that are required where he lives/will register the car. I have previously bought two trucks from a dealer in Virginia, and both times they have had to refund me over $1,000 because they overcharged on the sales tax/fees required.

The only way to know exactly what the fees were is to request the receipt. Call the dealership and ask to talk to the general manager. He will get it clarified for you.

Before I signed the contract and purchase a new 2013 impreza the stealership salesman told me the Estimated MV Fees are $302.00 and they told me that if the it comes out to be less than what I paid for they will give me back the remaining of unused amount.

Felt like I just got raped out of my wallet blindly.

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Originally Posted by subaru604

lol...I know I know...they sounded so honest and helpful...

This is my favorite part.

Go over your paperwork. If you don't have the paperwork, go to the dealer to get it. If they don't have it, then you probably just bought the car in your dreams and not real life.

Dealerships make money off of being good salesmen (which includes bending the truth, not lying), high labor prices, and moving inventory. They don't make their money off of not keeping meticulous documents and lying and cheating you out of money. If you think they lied, it's probably because you didn't pay attention to the document you were signing.

You're looking at a law in California. As has been mentioned above, rules, regs, fees, laws, etc. all change state to state. Don't call or email the dealer.
Go down there.
Tell (don't ask) them that you want to go over the final bill and see all charges, fees, etc.

Look at what Vision wrote above. That's probably what it is.

Please stop asking us to help you verify what the $294 was. Ask the people who are charging you. It's like asking us why the sandwich at your local shop is $9.50 when everyone else on this forum is buying sandwiches at $7.75. Talk with your sandwich maker and find out why it costs what it costs.

Also, if you can't afford eating the $75 difference that you claim is yours, you probably shouldn't have bought the new car. Just a side though.

You're looking at a law in California. As has been mentioned above, rules, regs, fees, laws, etc. all change state to state. Don't call or email the dealer.
Go down there.
Tell (don't ask) them that you want to go over the final bill and see all charges, fees, etc.

Look at what Vision wrote above. That's probably what it is.

Please stop asking us to help you verify what the $294 was. Ask the people who are charging you. It's like asking us why the sandwich at your local shop is $9.50 when everyone else on this forum is buying sandwiches at $7.75. Talk with your sandwich maker and find out why it costs what it costs.

Also, if you can't afford eating the $75 difference that you claim is yours, you probably shouldn't have bought the new car. Just a side though.

Thank you all for your help.

It's not that I can't afford eating the $75, it's the principle. Why should I be out $75 extra when it's supposed to be my money?