Any direct in ear where the cable couples to a housing and has no point to dissipate energy from microphonics to your shirt or head first will of course have it. ROCKETS will have some microphonics. We ,however, have added a layer of conductive PVC in the cable to dissipate the small charge generated by a cable when it is flexing. This charge generally causes some microphonics. Having been dissipated by our cable that part is reduced. The cable is pretty soft to be as durable as it is and that helps with microphonics as well. The Y in the cable has a feature to attach it to your clothing nicely which can also help dissipate cable microphonics.

So yes some microphonics to be expected but we did a lot to reduce it as you can see from the above.

It seems you guys have put a lot of work into the cable. I'k curious how you'll implement the remote without undoing the progress you've made. I wonder if it can be integrated into the current Y-split, with the wiring going down an extra layer of sleeving. That way, the remote circuitry and audio circuitry are separate from each other. The idea wood probably need a lot of refinement, but it could be a way of keeping the integrity of the original design.

It seems you guys have put a lot of work into the cable. I'k curious how you'll implement the remote without undoing the progress you've made. I wonder if it can be integrated into the current Y-split, with the wiring going down an extra layer of sleeving. That way, the remote circuitry and audio circuitry are separate from each other. The idea wood probably need a lot of refinement, but it could be a way of keeping the integrity of the original design.

We have some ideas on the mic/controls. It is really hard add it to the current design without losing the overall integrity of the design. We have some meetings with some vendors at CES this week and I am sure we can come up with something once we see what control circuit we go with. Like your idea though... Ideas for the mic/controls are welcome please chime in all.

We have some ideas on the mic/controls. It is really hard add it to the current design without losing the overall integrity of the design. We have some meetings with some vendors at CES this week and I am sure we can come up with something once we see what control circuit we go with. Like your idea though... Ideas for the mic/controls are welcome please chime in all.

If you could get the mic to still be responsive at that area, that's not a bad idea at all, there are quite a few companies that do this. There are also some companies that split off the remote and mic portions onto two separate parts of the cable by placing a smaller mic up top (for a more responsive mic) and keeping the controls down below (for IEMs typically in the y-split). That might complicate things a bit though.

It seems you guys have put a lot of work into the cable. I'k curious how you'll implement the remote without undoing the progress you've made. I wonder if it can be integrated into the current Y-split, with the wiring going down an extra layer of sleeving. That way, the remote circuitry and audio circuitry are separate from each other. The idea wood probably need a lot of refinement, but it could be a way of keeping the integrity of the original design.

Going with Eke's idea, maybe separate out the mic and the controls. Controls on Y-Split and mic on the cable. That would reduce the footprint along the cable and maybe/hopefully increase durability.

Personally, I don't even want the mic, just a 3-Button remote haha.

Edit: beaten to the punch. Good job TM.

LOL, Ninja'd. A mic does come in handy if you actually have a phone. Have used mine on more than one occasion now... Pulling off your gloves when it's -15 out (not including a -35 degree wind chill) just to answer the phone really sucks! I actually do like that design a lot (if I don't have the IEM cable slipped under my shirt XD).

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Originally Posted by vwinter

Interesting... What is the tableg you speak of?

Tablegs are awesome! You don't have one?! You must get yourself a Tableg!

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One more note for Dale... Please, please, please separate out the buttons a little bit (if it's multi-button/3-button) and make them be able to be felt blindly. I cannot count the amount of times I've double pressed the center button of my P7 just to also raise the volume two notches, so annoying XD When I was testing the MS500 Bridge, I couldn't find the button with my fingers (got worse when I put on gloves), also annoying.

If you could get the mic to still be responsive at that area, that's not a bad idea at all, there are quite a few companies that do this. There are also some companies that split off the remote and mic portions onto two separate parts of the cable by placing a smaller mic up top (for a more responsive mic) and keeping the controls down below (for IEMs typically in the y-split). That might complicate things a bit though.

I love this idea too. Then comes the Issue of shielding the mic from sweat and the like. The rockets are marketed as a lifestyle item, so it would ne good not for a component to die during use. As FR integrating the mic and remote into the jack, It would obviously require a new jack.

Yeah this is stretch goal material for sure if Dale n crew are to pull tis off. I'd pay (from the consumer perspective) MAX $50 extra for a perfectly executed system. And this is someone who forks $100 to apple for each additional 16gb of space.

I love this idea too. Then comes the Issue of shielding the mic from sweat and the like. The rockets are marketed as a lifestyle item, so it would ne good not for a component to die during use. As FR integrating the mic and remote into the jack, It would obviously require a new jack.

Yeah this is stretch goal material for sure if Dale n crew are to pull tis off. I'd pay (from the consumer perspective) MAX $50 extra for a perfectly executed system. And this is someone who forks $100 to apple for each additional 16gb of space.

Putting a mic (and remote) into the jack? No clue how the heck that would work... Might as well pull the phone out at that point :p JK, I know what you meant. Yeah, he'd have to design a new y-split.

Any direct in ear where the cable couples to a housing and has no point to dissipate energy from microphonics to your shirt or head first will of course have it. ROCKETS will have some microphonics. We ,however, have added a layer of conductive PVC in the cable to dissipate the small charge generated by a cable when it is flexing. This charge generally causes some microphonics. Having been dissipated by our cable that part is reduced. The cable is pretty soft to be as durable as it is and that helps with microphonics as well. The Y in the cable has a feature to attach it to your clothing nicely which can also help dissipate cable microphonics.

So yes some microphonics to be expected but we did a lot to reduce it as you can see from the above.

LOL, Ninja'd. A mic does come in handy if you actually have a phone. Have used mine on more than one occasion now... Pulling off your gloves when it's -15 out (not including a -35 degree wind chill) just to answer the phone really sucks! I actually do like that design a lot (if I don't have the IEM cable slipped under my shirt XD).

I was literally in this situation as you typed this. I used a different design choice to solve this problem. I let it ring.

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Originally Posted by eke2k6

Fml.

Funny enough, when I tried to type tableg on purpose the first time, it tried to correct it to "tablet."

I was literally in this situation as you typed this. I used a different design choice to solve this problem. I let it ring.
Funny enough, when I tried to type tableg on purpose the first time, it tried to correct it to "tablet."

Well, in this case, the call couldn't really wait... Friend was calling to tell me he was around the block (and already running late for the movie)... I was shoveling a driveway at the time... Those moments were useful...