In an ideal world yeah maybe Antonio should have passed but he created everything about that chance , he had run down the left from near the half way line , lost the ball then shoulder charged the West Brom centre half out of the way and won it back , he looked up once then saw his chance for glory - if he'd hit the ball better and scored we'd be talking about it for years to come , I'm not 100% sure but I think his last goal was back in March so we can't blame him for wanting to get on the score sheet .

Colours never run wrote:You say that, but I've found Lanzini guilty of the same thing. I remember vividly him taking a shot against Spurs in the 1st half when he should have laid it on a plate for Calleri in the middle.

fmgod wrote:I don't think look at pictures is a fair reflection, videos maybe but pinpoint freeze frame images doesn't portray an image of the game at full speed, well to me it doesn't.

i'm not trying to be pedantic with it so i didn't highlight a pinpoint frame, hernandez is showing for it for a good few seconds, to the point that even our pissed up geordie hero has noticed and is signalling for antonio to put him through (either that or he's been talking to PDC a bit too much about politics).

iron mic created that chance all by himself and had every right to finish off his roy of the rovers moment with a pop at goal, but the making of the man would've been to put his team mate through in spite of all that.

Beavis Danzig wrote:the best and worst of antonio's attacking play in one moment. absolutely heroic work to hold up the ball, shrug off a towering west brom centre half like dandruff and set up a golden opportunity to roll it through for our lethal poacher, choosing instead to hit a daisy cutter straight at the keeper from 25 yards.

moments like this remind us how much we miss lanzini.

Antonio's continued lack of awareness of what is going on around him will always be his Achilles heel.Hence why his passing is often poor.Paradoxically playing on instinct is also the reason he is at times such a good player.He is an enigma, hence the reason nobody really knows his true best position, even after all this time.

Bloke at work is an amateur referee. I showed him the images of Foster's challenge and he said -

Difficult to say based on these stills which are very blurred. I’d want to see the video in real time.Given the location of challenge and fact that player is going wider still, and based on advice given to referees regarding interpretation of what constitutes denying an obvious goal-scoring opportunity, he would likely say it’s not denying an obvious goal-scoring opportunity.Then the debate is around the tackle itself-it’s definitely reckless which is a yellow card. In the referee’s opinion it’s then a judgement as to whether the tackle is endangering the safety of the player-if it is then it’s a red card-if not then yellow.Middle photo shows studs showing, but not in actual proximity to players leg.With this limited information , I’d say ref got it right-Yellow card for reckless play, but it’s borderline.

Don't think it was a red and it definitely isn't worse than Luiz's. Force is entirely different and so is control. Where the ball is, especially with Hernandez challenging with his foot off the ground, makes it a very different type of challenge.

My feeling on reds is if you can see why the referee has made the decision, then it cannot be an awful one. I could see it either way so cannot go along with us being "screwed"

brownout wrote:Then the debate is around the tackle itself-it’s definitely reckless which is a yellow card. In the referee’s opinion it’s then a judgement as to whether the tackle is endangering the safety of the player-if it is then it’s a red card-if not then yellow.Middle photo shows studs showing, but not in actual proximity to players leg.With this limited information , I’d say ref got it right-Yellow card for reckless play, but it’s borderline.

This was a fraction of a second before contact with Hernandez, lunging with studs showing.

I would say this is serious foul play under the IFAB Law 12 IFAB

SERIOUS FOUL PLAY

A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play.

Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force or endangers the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play.

SENDING-OFF OFFENCES

A player, substitute or substituted player who commits any of the following offences is sent off: