The most common objection people have to our research: "Too many people would have been involved to pull off such a massive hoax." Well, with trillions of taxpayers' dollars at hand, this operation could certainly afford contracting many individuals (under a gag order and on a need-to-know basis). Meet the real - and unreal - persons, companies & entities assigned to carry out this gigantic, media & military-assisted psyop.

Here's some chosen videos on news propaganda about 9/11 "attacks, experiences, victims, survivors, families" and reporters.A lot of these videos are also there to name and register in this forum the people behind, and their story... 10 years later.So much of these videos talks about "firefighters going up in the stairs to save people".

Leslie Haskin and David Beamer. She's smiling and almost laughing, and he's talking war and death as if it's a good American and Christian thing to do.

Leslie: "There was debris, and body parts , and furniture falling outside the window, I lost 22 of my friends... need to figure out again.... how to regroup."

David: "OBL as met his American justice. He's met Divine Justice."

And another woman I don't understand the name purely acting and sobbing.

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvGeyU7NOd8

Here we have a reporter, Max Hofmann, talking 9/11 with many people. The important part is at 3:00 with Kay Turner and her propaganda, the woman who organize Memorial events each years.

At 5:50, A man looking a little deranged, and who "lost a nephew on 9/11", talking about 7 buildings that came down that day.

At 7:10 ,New York Fire Department Station 10, where "6 firefighters died".

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wq4s-_dUcY

Here we have Greg "something" (I can't understand these last names), a police officer in helicopter, retired since 2002... talking about his day. "people, planes, terrorism". He's supposed to have 240 digital pictures of the event."The North Tower is probably gonna come down."

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj86MB7p5OU

Here's some military news, the first 5 minutes are the subject. "The World Trade Center Flag". And Charlie Vitchers, The Man and the Flag, the construction superintendent throughout the 9 months of clean-up following 9/11.http://chattahoocheenow.org/?p=2679

(First 5 minutes)

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=194VQ1od3wY

I don't know if this has been posted before, but we have JULES NAUDET, one of the infamous Naudet Brothers, in a 2011 interview on The Talk, on CBS about 9/11 and his video of Flight 11!The whole thing is a joke,: "It was very close, I could read the American Airline on it". "disappear behind the building" .... "reflex, instinct, idk, I turn the camera around, and it reappears" "and immediately crash into the North Tower!"And the other "NYC firefighter" actor, writer and director speaking, James Hanlon. The guy doesn't even hide the fact that he's an actor.

This is a very funny one, from the same show, The Talk on CBS, with Sharon Osbourne and her 9/11 day.She says she was there in an hotel in Lower Manhattan, she was having breakfast with her family and Rudy Giuliani was there too eating, when men came in to take the mayor out, "nothing unusual there" , and the ending of the interview, she explain that Ozzy came back a couple of weeks later to do a show for the firemen, and he received a cross made of the metal of the South Tower, STILL WARM!

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT2QbRJg1G8

Again, from the same show, Early Show/Big Brother Julie Chen talking about 9/11, victims, emotions, fear, military, hope, pride, fight, we will not forget....

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFjVea2U5ow

The Children of 9/11 on The View.I'm so sorry these children are being lied at like this.All these stories are SO odd! Can these people only walk out from their families? and the media use fake pictures?

Donald Rumsfeld interview "10 Years Later"."I ran into a Lieutenant Colonel who told me that he actually see the aircraft going into the building (Pentagon), that it was a commercial airliner". "There was smoke and flames, and people burned, injured, and being assisted..." "It didn't change our way of life, our free way of life, we manage to preserve that,... " some more Cold War references, Al-CIA-da propaganda... and blah blah blah.

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeZRIA-pTo4

Col. T.C. Carter at the Pentagon. On "freedom and war"."We watch CNN, and the 2 planes crashing, and I remember one of the military member saying I wonder if the Pentagon is gonna be next."

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDHh9wdIM0w

Ari Fleischer talking about his experience, Bush at the Elementary School, Karl Rove, "secure phone", NSA, Condoleezza Rice,..."...in moments of calamity like this, it's often that the media has better information than the government , you have cameras, you have access, and you have the ability to broadcast.

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G18vF-AYkO0

Wall Street Journal Editors Paul Steigner, James Pensiero and John Bussey and National Copy Chief Jesse Lewis talking about their 9/11 Experience.1:45 "I looked at the Towers and I saw a man jump...3:30 "And we were pressed up against the wall of this building, as all of this debris rained down on us. We could feel it scrapping against our backs of our shirts!:lol: And this little indentation on the building, which was probably extremely fortunate for us, cause it gave us another 6 inches or so of protection..."

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovSyEGp5yIY

WNYC Reporter Beth Fertig.

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqP-tKF29j8

WABC Reporter Nina Pineda and Empire Blue Cross "survivors" Michelle Scott and (horrible actress) Igarlow Sweezer Robinson 1:54 "Both turned away from any images of 9/11, Igarlow NEVER SEE HERSELF ON TV that day."2:07 "It went right, and then it went left, and then it came back!" "the building?" "The whole entire building!" 3:14 Cue on script Nina?!

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_CpqOZdJ44"And I would just like thank all of my colleagues who are being so honest and open sharing their story."

WABC NewsCopter7 Helicopter Pilot John DelGiorno

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzTy67uLlik

Don Dahler interviewing himself.

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-iXjwbMkSk

Photographer Mark Faram, now Senior Staff Writer at the Navy Post.Talking about the Pentagon Memorial benches, the Pentagon burning and Father McGraw, another liar."Faram heard the plane that hit the Pentagon. "I heard this 'Romp Romp'. It was like a 2 parts sound, and the building kinda shook. This is a moment you'd always dream as journalist... Where's the pieces of the plane? I could see this one shiny piece, I moved around so I can put the piece of wreckage with the burning Pentagon in the background..." ""There were people trying to call cellphones."

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7wCrA-2IF0

Photographer Thomas E. Franklin from NewJersey.com/The RecordLOTS of "his" pictures in the video, like this one.

1:25 Robert A Cumins: "I saw a plane approaching Lower Manhattan. I lifted the camera, decided I'm going to take a picture of the plane juxtaposed against the city. Holy shit! It was staggering to me, I couldn't believe that I actually caught that plane"

1:30 Carmen Taylor: "I waited until the instance that plane got in front of the tower"

2:27 Frank Scandale, Executive Editor of The Record: " Clearly was the biggest event we were gonna see in this region, I mean SHORT OF A NUCLEAR ATTACK"

3:00 This Thomas E. Franklin picture looks HORRIBLY wrong.

3:17 David Handschuh: "...there were body parts littering West(?)"

3:26 Richard Drew and The Falling Man, Frank Scandale saying; "This captured the desperation, the horror of the moment, I felt we had to run it fairly big"

5:30 "24/7 news. We had a thing called the internet, which began in the 1990s, and you had many many people with more portable cameras, and you photographers, and photojournalists shooting digitally who could immediately upload."

7:28 Thomas E. Franklin: "It was unreal, it was absolutely unreal that this could be happening."

7:30 David Friend, Author of "Watching the World Change - The Stories Behind the Images of 9/11": "Not only the image were memorable because the even was so "pyrotechnic"!:P The situation was NOT TO BE BELIEVED! so you couldn't help to get UNBELIEVABLE pictures"

8:20 Richard Drew: "It came at a time when photography was changing, "digitalization", all the people who have cameras, all the people that came to the Associated Press office, they were some terrific pictures!"

8:28 Carmen Taylor: "I was a tourist taking pictures, I was a person who was by myself in a time of fear.."

8:43 Shannon Stapleton on Father Michael Judge. "That was the glory of digital camera". Epic Picture!

9:22 Thomas E. Franklin and Ricky Flores talking about their "Iwo Jima" Flag pictures."The flag raising picture was made at 5 o'clock, WTC7 WAS GOING TO FALL, so the search and rescue effort at Ground Zero was halted..."

9:28 Another very horrible picture.

11:28 "I can't think of any other day in history that was documented so well photographically." "We were documenting the facts, and by doing that we actually became historians." (and so much more from all of them...)

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVgKQUAPozs

New York Daily News Photographer David Handschuh , the man who got "lifted in the air for a block".Award winning picture of himself.

1:15 He saw the "2nd plane" flying at 500 mph and instinctively took this picture.

2:59 this time, 10 years later, he was lifted for HALF a block.

4:08 He saved firefighters lives.

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjdQUp5mRsk

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AnonymousTruther2 wrote:1:25 Robert A Cumins: "I saw a plane approaching Lower Manhattan. I lifted the camera, decided I'm going to take a picture of the plane juxtaposed against the city. Holy shit! It was staggering to me, I couldn't believe that I actually caught that plane"

Holy shit! What a bargain! You can hang this "artist's" masterpiece in your living room for a mere $2000/3000.

Equinox wrote:Btw, Anonymous Truther - I posted a reply to your last post in the staged plane parts section.

Yeah I know, I never said it was really a "new video", it's what this guy said.I didn't answer because there was way too much stuff, about Flight 93 and black boxes, between my post and the one that would have followed.

Equinox wrote:Btw, Anonymous Truther - I posted a reply to your last post in the staged plane parts section.

Yeah I know, I never said it was really a "new video", it's what this guy said.I didn't answer because there was way too much stuff, about Flight 93 and black boxes, between my post and the one that would have followed.

I never said YOU said it was a new video, I was reffering to the youtube troll, and if you wanted to reply to it you could have quoted it and what I wrote would have appeared on the other side of the ua 93 stuff. Just saying thats all

"I grew up in an observant Jewish family, so I was surprised one day when my mother told me that she didn't believe in God. I asked her to explain, and she said that she used to believe, but she couldn't reconcile God with her experience of losing her family in the Holocaust. On bad days, I remember that I know what she means.

It was years ago, and I had just dropped my son Nicolai off for his fourth day of kindergarten. I stopped on my way to the subway to speak to another parent. I heard an odd sound and looked up the street to see a jumbo jet heading my way, but flying so low it felt eerie. A second or two later it passed overhead, seemed to bank slightly, and quietly penetrated the ninety-fifth floor of the north tower of the World Trade Center a short distance away. Almost immediately the upper floors spewed fire. The thunder of the crash came a half second later, as it would have if lightning had hit. The street broke into chaos, and the air filled with screams, and a rain of fiery debris. What haunts me most is the thought of the ninety-two people I saw obliterated in that moment--my involuntary feeling of connection with those people I never knew, but whose last moments staring out their windows in terror I can't stop imagining. Nicolai, his five-year-old face apparently pressed against the large picture window in his nearby classroom, saw it all, too, including those who leaped from the roof to avoid being incinerated.

Edit to add:About author, from book jacket flap:LEONARD MLODINOW received his doctorate in theoretical physics from the University of California at Berkeley. He teaches at Caltech and is the New York Times bestselling author of the The Drunkard's Walk: How Randomness Rules Our Lives and the #1 New York Times bestseller The Grand Design, which he coauthored with Stephen Hawking. His other books include Euclid's Window: The Story of Geometry from Parallel Lines to Hyperspace and Feynman's Rainbow: A Search for Beauty in Physics and in Life. He also wrote for Star Trek: The Next Generation.

Genelle's survivor story goes like this: Genelle ran down from her 64th floor office in the WTC (holding hands with her co-worker Rosa) - but as she reached the 13th story, the building collapsed on top of her (just as she had decided to take off her 4-inch high-heel shoes). Everything went black, as the walls crumbled around her. Fortunately, she landed on the soft corpse of a fireman - and her head was luckily protected by two steel girders. At some stage, she lifted her arms up in an air-pocket, and a man called Paul grabbed her hands, comforting her by saying that the rescue team was on its way. She survived with a crushed leg - and was the last person to be pulled from the debris of the towers - a full 27 hours after that some 100 floors of the WTC had crumbled on top of her. She has now released her autobiography, to tell her miraculous tale to the world.

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlhjuRffT48

Genelle gets to promote her story on TV - as she releases her autobiography:

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqovmfZV3V4

It never ceases to amaze me how anyone can watch these inane 9/11 fables on TV without breaking up in hysterical laughter. On the other hand, it totally saddens me to think that ANY brain-equipped person on this planet could possibly buy (or even only allow the slightest benefit of doubt to) such ravingly outlandish tripe. Can people really be so terminally brainwashed? What is wrong with America? What's wrong with this planet?

And here she is again - rehashing her tripe with that wry smile... (video uploaded as recently as November1, 2011):

You know, looking at this photo again it seems strange to me. What's going on with his legs? He appears to be lying down with both knees up? I don't understand why if one leg is supposed to be "shattered." Wouldn't it be better if both legs were flat on the floor? And, if he's in pain why is his fellow photog just taking his picture instead of trying help him? I don't get it. (Yes, I know it's staged -- I'm just wondering why they didn't do a more believable job of it).

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National Geographic society - as MartinL pointed out earlier - was funded on something like crazy Nazi-sympathizers or something like that. They are also one of the main funders of the "9/11 Memorial Museum" stuff. So National Geographic would be a very interesting magazine/corporation to examine when looking at this 10-years later bullshit.

Also, the amount of sponsored travel might make it rife with spies posing as "international photographers", no?

The National Geographic Society began as a club for an elite group of academics and wealthy patrons interested in travel.[5] On January 13, 1888, 33 explorers and scientists gathered at the Cosmos Club, a private club then located on Lafayette Square in Washington, D.C., to organize "a society for the increase and diffusion of geographical knowledge." After preparing a constitution and a plan of organization, the National Geographic Society was incorporated two weeks later on January 27.

Let's see now -- the NGS was formed by a group of 33 elite academics and wealthy patrons who met on January 13th, 1888 (which was a Friday) in Lafayette Square which is just north of the White House, right in that inverted pentagram thingy on the DC map.

1) Lux, I noticed that odd position also. Strange. Look also at those floor tiles. Now, I don't see a convenience store having special-order linoleum floor tiles installed. The tile shapes in the image should be closer to square-shaped, and even in this small area, the shape does not hold across the image. Totally ridiculous.

2) In the book excerpt quoted above:

--Does the official story ever claim jumpers from the roof? (I don't remember that it does, I may be wrong) --Author adds in the (half-second) delay from sight-of-crash to sound-of-crash. --Young children are "apparently" allowed prolonged witnessing of the "events".

--Author has written science-based books, and has earned a doctorate in theoretical physics, giving him a credibility, a certain believability, that an observation of his must be fact. (Although maybe that plane was purely theoretical.) --Author has written for Hollywood, and therefore has that Hollywood connection. --Author is teaching clear across the country away from New York, impressing fresh young minds at California Institute of Technology. --Caltech . . . Jet Propulsion Laboratory . . . NASA. It's starting to come together for me on this one.

Simon Schama? I firstly thougt this was some kind of joke - but it seems that this Simon Schama is very real and has a wiki page...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_SchamaSimon Michael Schama, CBE (born 13 February 1945) is a British historian and art historian. He is a University Professor of History and Art History at Columbia University. He is best known for writing and hosting the 15-part BBC documentary series A History of Britain. Other works on history and art include The Embarrassment of Riches, Landscape and Memory, Dead Certainties, Rembrandt's Eyes, and his history of the French Revolution, Citizens. Schama is an art and cultural critic for The New Yorker.

The son of Jewish parents with roots in Lithuania, Romania, and Turkey, Schama was born in London.