Re: Hymn of Hope

almost never use it, only when i forget to bring drinks

then i pop my trinkets and use hymn of hope

but it shouldn't be channeled....
Should be pop and party gains 10% mana or increases spirit by 100% for 10 sec or something like that and you still can focus healing and preventing another spell standing unused in the spellbar

Re: Hymn of Hope

Re: Hymn of Hope

Originally Posted by Danner

Hymn of Hopelessness is not usable by shadowpriests; it costs more mana get back in shadowform than what you get by casting it. For the lucky holy priest in the same party as a shadowpriest who does this anyway, the gains will not be enough for a single GHeal.

Not true, shadowform cost 1161 mana. so u need slightly less than 15k mana for it to be "free". i have 15.7k even unbuffed, and i still need alot of upgrades.
Gheal is something like 1050mana so...

Re: Hymn of Hope

In a raid situation you have to get pretty lucky to be able to use Hymn.

If you heal it requires that there either be an expected lull in damage (pretty much not happening) or that you be in a raid that overstacks healers so there is someone to pick up your slack.

If you're shadow, the only think I can see if you taking it upon yourself when the healers are getting low or your RL calling for it.

Honestly I just use it for grinding. Kill till I get low, pop shadowfiend and hymn.

Of course it would be great if it worked like a pallies Divine Plea, but because it gives mana back to the group it'd be a little too good to work passively without something to hinder it, like being attached to a whackable totem.

Honestly, we already have shadowfiend; another pop-and-forget mana return is too much to ask for. If shadowfiend is an oh sh!t button, then Hymn is your oh fvck button

Re: Hymn of Hope

I use HOH quite a bit. Albeit not a great spell mana is mana. While leveling with my ret pally partner I popped it a lot when he had to take on the tanking role for several quests and I had to heal him as a shadow priest. I used it to top off mana between battles as well. We did a lot of AOE style leveling, pulling every mob in sight so I often had to pop out of shadow to heal.

Now I am doing heroics I still use this spell quite a bit. As a holy priest trying to keep up with some of our more aggressive and insane tanks HOH with trinkets kept me moving at a quicker pace. I also ended up at 80 with most of my level 70 gear so was extremely gimped at first any mana was good mana.

HOH is good in some respects, mana is mana and it is party wide. Again it’s not a lot but sometimes even a little is helpful. It could make the difference between that one spell that makes or breaks a fight. In my opinion everything a priest has is useful, some better then others for sure. Using them helps us to learn when a spell is really useful and when it is a total waste of time. Just looking at it or trying it out a couple of times really doesn't give you that.