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With all the crazy and unbelievable things in this whole saga, I will never understand why Carter Page is the hill Republicans are willing to die on, and willing to burn down the IC and judiciary to do it. Carter Page is a well known Russian asset going back to 2013. Well, I say asset, but the Russians at one point question whether he was worth using because he was so stupid. Read the last time Page was indicted - they have the conversations of the Russian intelligence officers talking about what a dope Carter Page is and how his Russian is shit. At any rate Carter Page has been doing everything he can to become a Russian agent for years.

And for this little fucking weasel all these guys are willing to lie and cover up and gaslight, burning down the IC and FISA courts with them. What a strange strange hill to die on.

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I know nothing matters because Trumpies will just believe whatever Trump tells them (it's easier to think of it as a cult) but here is the absolute kicker...

If Carter Page was illegally wiretapped or surveilled on the basis of a dishonest affidavit, there is only one aggrieved party in that scenario. Carter Page. And the aggrieved party - Carter Page - has an easy remedy. He can schedule a hearing before the FISA judges to present evidence and argument that he was illegally wiretapped. If he were to prevail on that, then potentially any evidence gathered as a result of the wiretap and surveillance would be thrown out.

But Carter Page hasn't done that. Since the FISA warrants are so obviously fraudulent and illegal, I am sure there are any number of people willing to supply him a good lawyer to go argue this lock-solid case. Rather than dick around in Congress, this whole argument could be solved by going to the FISA court and showing the FISA court it was misled by the mean ol nasty FBI and DOJ.

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With all the crazy and unbelievable things in this whole saga, I will never understand why Carter Page is the hill Republicans are willing to die on, and willing to burn down the IC and judiciary to do it.

Carter Page was spied on including his phone calls. There is a good chance he talked to people in the Trump campaign about some bad stuff and the FBI has it on tape.

It's imperative to discredit this surveillance, not for Page but for the campaign and Trump

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It's imperative to discredit this surveillance, not for Page but for the campaign and Trump

Yeah I know, I was really being facetious. But it is just an indication of how easily the base is manipulated that they are able to pull off this switcheroo. If the FISA warrant wasn't proper, it is for the FISA court to be presented with that evidence and act accordingly. The fact all these Republicans are doing what they can to make Page's arguments for him when only Page is the one who has a legal remedy against an improper warrant is just hilariously transparent. But we are way beyond anyone caring about that.

Sometimes, though, it is helpful to look at what everything means and the context of it. There was an application for a warrant to spy on a none Russian agent, or at least wannabe Russian agent. That warrant was granted. People think the warrant shouldn't have been issued. But that's for Carter Page to worry about. and Carter Page has a remedy to address that issue. But he has failed to avail himself of that remedy.

Forget the application and the memos - the above tells you more than anything the FISA warrant was issued properly. Lawyers will argue about anything. Motions to suppress based on allegedly improper warrants are filed as a matter of course in routine criminal cases. These guys, of course, know the warrant was properly issued and don't want to go to the Court and have a Court confirm that on the record.

So might as well divide everyone, gaslight the public, burn down the IC, and throw the judiciary under the bus. And people buy it. People accept the bullshit spewed by a damn politician over professionals in the IC and judges, people who as part of their job are called upon to be fair and non-partisan. Not to mention most of the people in charge of all this are Republicans.

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Line up all the fools and retards...... Juicy, Oman, Nator, and the head Legal. They should start a law firm. The sad thing is Ben is right. If this kind of unjust BS happened to a lib many of us would be shouting foul from the street corners. Talk about who are the Nazis? Libs don't care about civil liberty unless they agree with you. Hitler would be proud. So would Stalin. You guy represent the worst of the worst. Pathetic.

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