One look at the leadership and elite of Israel would reveal that they are not the same ethnically/racially as the other people of the Middle-East. Despite the dubious studies of haplogroups, which is predominated by Khazars/Jews attempting to justify their seizure of Palestinian lands and the myth of the 'covenant', visual evidence of their Eurasian ancestry is apparent to anyone free of this propaganda.
It is no coincidence that the bulk of world 'Jewry' has it's origins in Eastern Europe as a result of the conversion of the Kingdom of Khazaria and other mass conversions of Europeans in places like Poland and Germany afterwards. Today's 'Jews' are not Hebrews, they are Hebrew Impersonators!
It is curious that you support the Zionist myth. Are you a Zionist?

I firmly support what Israel did, not because I like them or support them but because I would have done the same damn thing if someone was trying to ram my blockade, especially if there was a chance they could be carrying weapons to my enemy.. actually none of those ships would've even made it out of there as I would have sunk every one of them as soon as I told them to turn around and they didn't listen, period. And let me tell you that as soon as one of them picked up a weapon to fight, forget it, there would be no survivors.. I saw the video and they had every right to do what they did and then some so lets not be a bunch of hypocrites here since I'm fairly sure everyone would have probably done the same or worse. As for the Middle East in general, I have no problem making that whole area a shiny glass flatland to test land speed records after the radiation levels get back to normal

I support what Israel did, not because I like them but because i would have done the same damn thing if someone was trying to ram my boycott, especially if they could be carrying weapons to my enemy.. actually none of those ships wouldve even made it out of there as I would have sunk every one of them as soon as told them to turn around and they didnt listen, period. And let me tell you as soon as one of them picked up a weapon, forget it, there would be no survivvors.. I saw the video and they had every right to what they did and thenm some so be be a bunch of hypocrits here since Im sure everyone would have done the same or worse cause i know I would. As for the Middle East in general I have no problem making that whole area a shiny glass flatland to test land speed records after the radiation levels get back to normal

Then you'd be kicked out of the "world community." There is protocol. You can say, screw protocol, I am more worried about defending myself! Great, then you find yourself alone and without allies. Next time someone comes and rattles your cage, oops, no one comes to your assistance. You're on your own. Mind you, you are a TINY country with barely a jewish majority in your own country and surrounded by mortal enemies.

Further, you say you would have done the same thing. What would you have done if there were naval escorts from Turkey? Start a war with a regional power? Is it worth it?

Forget the fact these were ships in international waters. Forget the fact that your nation has claimed it has relinquished its rights of Gaza to the Gazans so that its coastline is not part of your territory. Forget that you therefore have no legal justification to blockade shipments to Gaza anymore than Mexico has a right to block shipments to Miami.

Then you argue, well, they could be sending in rockets and missiles. To that, I agree, I would also be concerned. And I would also take serious measures. But this?! You mean to tell me there was no other way to neutralize a converted pleasure craft than to board it with commandos? There are many things Israel could have done to jam the electronics, the communications, etc and then tug the boat to safe harbor. And then if the people on the boat start throwing stuff at you, firing shots at you, then you have a right to fight back. No one would have argued with Israel in that type of situation.

But they go for the worst possible option. And they are going to find themselves increasingly alone. Is that what you want for your own country? Being a pariah around the world?

Then you'd be kicked out of the "world community." There is protocol. You can say, screw protocol, I am more worried about defending myself! Great, then you find yourself alone and without allies. Next time someone comes and rattles your cage, oops, no one comes to your assistance. You're on your own. Mind you, you are a TINY country with barely a jewish majority in your own country and surrounded by mortal enemies.

Further, you say you would have done the same thing. What would you have done if there were naval escorts from Turkey? Start a war with a regional power? Is it worth it?

Forget the fact these were ships in international waters. Forget the fact that your nation has claimed it has relinquished its rights of Gaza to the Gazans so that its coastline is not part of your territory. Forget that you therefore have no legal justification to blockade shipments to Gaza anymore than Mexico has a right to block shipments to Miami.

Then you argue, well, they could be sending in rockets and missiles. To that, I agree, I would also be concerned. And I would also take serious measures. But this?! You mean to tell me there was no other way to neutralize a converted pleasure craft than to board it with commandos? There are many things Israel could have done to jam the electronics, the communications, etc and then tug the boat to safe harbor. And then if the people on the boat start throwing stuff at you, firing shots at you, then you have a right to fight back. No one would have argued with Israel in that type of situation.

But they go for the worst possible option. And they are going to find themselves increasingly alone. Is that what you want for your own country? Being a pariah around the world?

Yes, I'd be kicked out of the (Jewish) world community and be considered a pariah. I'd sink Haitian refuge boats, mine the Mexican border, and machinegun Black rioters. Jewish morals mean nothing to me.

Then you'd be kicked out of the "world community." There is protocol. You can say, screw protocol, I am more worried about defending myself! Great, then you find yourself alone and without allies. Next time someone comes and rattles your cage, oops, no one comes to your assistance. You're on your own. Mind you, you are a TINY country with barely a jewish majority in your own country and surrounded by mortal enemies.

Sounds like Germany

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Originally Posted by Wooden Music Box

Further, you say you would have done the same thing. What would you have done if there were naval escorts from Turkey? Start a war with a regional power? Is it worth it?

Forget the fact these were ships in international waters. Forget the fact that your nation has claimed it has relinquished its rights of Gaza to the Gazans so that its coastline is not part of your territory. Forget that you therefore have no legal justification to blockade shipments to Gaza anymore than Mexico has a right to block shipments to Miami.

Then you argue, well, they could be sending in rockets and missiles. To that, I agree, I would also be concerned. And I would also take serious measures. But this?! You mean to tell me there was no other way to neutralize a converted pleasure craft than to board it with commandos? There are many things Israel could have done to jam the electronics, the communications, etc and then tug the boat to safe harbor. And then if the people on the boat start throwing stuff at you, firing shots at you, then you have a right to fight back. No one would have argued with Israel in that type of situation.

But they go for the worst possible option. And they are going to find themselves increasingly alone. Is that what you want for your own country? Being a pariah around the world?

I agree there could have potentially been better ways to handle it however who said that's what they have to do? The "aid" ships were well prepared for some type of potential altercation and probably planned on this being exactly what it is, a media event to make Israel look bad. Considering most of the Arab fighters have no problem with self sacrifice and making themselves martyrs I see no reason why this isn't just another method to further their agenda. You make valid points in your argument but protecting your country & people should always be a nations top priority.

Now I don't want this to start sounding like some pro Israel rebuttal because we all know Israel is guilty of many things along with their Arab cousins. I'm just saying I would have done the same thing irregardless if they had a Turkish Navy escort since it was a legitimate blockade, sometimes you just have to break a few eggs to make an omelet.

As for being alone, isnt that exactly what Germany wanted and more so the founding fathers of this once great nation?

Yes, I'd be kicked out of the (Jewish) world community and be considered a pariah. I'd sink Haitian refuge boats, mine the Mexican border, and machinegun Black rioters. Jewish morals mean nothing to me.