Maybe we should teach 5-8 year olds to ignore the idiots in the UN, who are barely competent at handling their own matters, let alone trying to police
the world and telling our children what they can and cannot do.

Maybe we should teach our children not to listen to most adults, since we've done a bloody good job of screwing up the world in the last few
years.

If the Un wanna be known as a bunch of wankers, then that's fine by me. But don't drag our children into it.

Yes...IF parents would start doing what they're meant to do and cover that topic. But a great many parents don't unfortunatly. My parents arn't
bad parents...but they never covered it, and the same goes for most of my friends...we all found out via the internet and a few searches.

NOT the best way at all is it...I learnt what sex was properlly through watching 'videos' online. There are simply too many parents not covering
this subject at home with their children, and if they wont...someone has to.

I suppose I am more receptive than yourself as I was "educated" at a young age by both my parents and school.

I was also sexually curious at the tender ager of 7 & 8 when I lived in Germany (My dad was in the Army). I used to have "peep shows" and other such
naughtyness in the basement of my friends house with girls and I was quite aware how being "touched" did feel "nice"...

It is a fact that kids these days, whether it's due to the media, video games, peer pressure or a reptilian desire to feed off our sexual energy, are
experimenting sexually. Teaching them the rights, the wrongs and how to be prepared is not such a bad idea.

i would rather my little ones (who are 5 & 6 themselves) were educated properly on the matter, by both parents and teachers so that they can avoid
some of the mishaps we hear about all to often. Trying to protect them from it will only make them even more curious, kids being kids.

I don't know if the first part of your post is correct (I do not agree with most "NWO conspiracy theories), but your second part is perfectly
correct, regardless of who is behind it.

It's a fact that we can see (mostly on TV) that everyone is trying to convince the children to act in a more adult way, but only in a sexually
provocative adult way, while parents are also convinced to let the children follow one more trend.

And this is another problem, children follow trends and what is fashionable even more than adults, so if the present day trend is to use sexy
underware then all want sexy underware.

I think this is once more the parents fault (I can say as many times as I want because I do not have any children

), they should show to the
children that doing what other people do just because all other people are doing it is not a smart move.

The UNESCO report also talks about that (if we interpret it that way), in the "2.2 Norms and Peer Influence on Sexual Behaviour" part, where we can
see, for the 5-8 age range:

and in the "3.2 Sexuality and the Media" part, also for the 5-8 age range:

Identify different forms of media
Distinguish between examples from reality and fiction
(e.g. television, internet)
Key Idea:
• Different mass media are positive and negative in their representation of people

So, I think that even if this report is part of the "NWO's agenda to sexualise children", there is always the possibility of using it to our
advantage, but that depends, once more, on the adults.

Originally posted by ArMaP
Considering that the UN cannot impose anything on any nation, I find that a little strange.

Considering how the UN has political weight in many nations, and the UN has a military force around most of the world, not to mention that many
governments have decided to follow throught with the UN goals your response is illogical to say the least.

Originally posted by ArMaP
Did you read the UN report? If you did, was that the general feeling that you got from it?

If you did not read it I suggest you do, it's better to really know what we are talking about.

If you do notice this post gives a website with excerpts from the report, and yes i went to the website and read the parts that deal with this thread.

An appendix backed that claim by pointing to a 2008 report from the International Planned Parenthood Federation that argued
governments “are obligated to guarantee sexual rights,” and that “sexuality education is an integral component to human
rights.”

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Considering how the UN has political weight in many nations, and the UN has a military force around most of the world, not to mention that many
governments have decided to follow throught with the UN goals your response is illogical to say the least.

The UN has a military now, does it? You do know how the UN works, don't you?

The UN has political weight because the big 5 who sit at the top of the table decide what goes on in the world.... Who's on the Big 5, I wonder...

Originally posted by mamabeth
That is what is really wrong in todays society.Parents don't take control
of their children.They are too eager to let the school raise their children.
When they should be teaching their children about sex and morals at home.How many parents claim they sleep better at night,knowing their teen daughter
is on the pill?

It looks like the people who wrote that UNESCO report have the same opinion.

I am a fundamental,independent,baptist grandma! I don't appreciate
being compared with any group that promotes what little I read.I stick
by my post and won't change my mind.

I had to educate myself, because nobody else was doing so...thank god my internet wasn't full of blocks or I wouldn't have been able to. I am now
17 and not met the right person yet...I got my education early and it's payed off.

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You know why you had to educate yourself? Because your parents didn't
take the time out to teach you themselves.A lot of things on the internet
aren't even fit for adults to see,much less children.
If I had been your mom,you would have had proper education.

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Considering how the UN has political weight in many nations, and the UN has a military force around most of the world, not to mention that many
governments have decided to follow throught with the UN goals your response is illogical to say the least.

Right, the governments may
decide to follow the UN (in this case, UNESCO) guidelines (that's what the report presents), but I don't see that as the UN forcing anyone to do
anything.

If you can present one case in which the UN forced a country to implement UNESCO guidelines it would be better.

So perhaps you should be the one following your own advice and read what is being presented if you "want to know what we are talking
about"...

I read the article and the report, and what the article is doing is, as we call it in Portugal, "puxar a brasa à sua sardinha",
meaning that they are "tooting their own horn" or something like in English, they are showing that they are an important organisation that is even
influential to the UNESCO.

The UNESCO report has that reference in the Appendix II, "International conventions outlining the entitlement to sexuality education", and this is
the complete paragraph:

Some international organizations also support the view that governments are obligated to provide sexuality education in school. The International
Planned Parenthood Federation’s (IPPF’s) declaration in 2008 argued that governments are obligated to guarantee sexual rights, and that sexuality
education is an integral component of human rights.

It may be a question of making a wrong interpretation, but I don't see it as the UNESCO forcing anything on anyone.

You know why you had to educate yourself? Because your parents didn't
take the time out to teach you themselves.A lot of things on the internet
aren't even fit for adults to see,much less children.
If I had been your mom,you would have had proper education.

Maybe so...but the fact is I didn't, and neither do thousands upon thousands of others. Once again, we need to stop living in a dream world...the
fact is you are likely part of a minority in the way of PROPERLY teaching their children about sex. The most I got from my parents was a reminder to
use a condom when I go to a girls house.

They never actually told me what one was, I already knew...but only through my own means...by the time school covered it, I had already looked it
up..because school was too late.

Originally posted by mamabeth
I am a fundamental,independent,baptist grandma! I don't appreciate
being compared with any group that promotes what little I read.I stick
by my post and won't change my mind.

I don't even know what a "fundamental, independent, baptist" is.

And I was not comparing you with the people that wrote the report, it's obvious that you are not on the same side of this question, I said that both
have the same opinion, meaning that the people that wrote the report, apparently, knowing that the parents are ignoring their children's education
studied a way in which the teachers can fill that position also in sexual education, one of the reasons being the spreading of sexually transmitted
diseases, specially AIDS.

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