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</p>davidb on "Vamoots"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=9359#post-39390
Tue, 20 Nov 2012 01:33:30 +0000davidb39390@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>I'm running a 24mm Vittoria revolution on the rear on a 23mm wide rim. It measures 26 mounted, and fits just right. The 25mm Vittorio open coursa EVO on the 23mm front rim measures 27mm, and also fits perfect. (2002 compact)</p>
<p>The thing handles great. There are a few really nice wheelsets being marketed with a bigger rim on the front, so it's not just me being weird. The biggish tires feel wonderful.
</p>MattyVT on "Vamoots"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=9359#post-38589
Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:41:34 +0000MattyVT38589@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>I've had good luck running the Clement Strada LLG in 28 on my Compact. The frame is custom and the fork is the new Moots branded carbon models available now, but I have ample clearance on both.</p>
<p>Claimed size is 28, but I measure it at 26 on a standard 19 mm wide rim. I'm running the 60 tpi version, but I would expect the 120 version to be similar.
</p>laeljon on "Psychlo X"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=31565#post-37218
Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:34:25 +0000laeljon37218@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>I meet at the NAHBS....
</p>laeljon on "Psychlo X"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=31565#post-37159
Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:35:36 +0000laeljon37159@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>U can't blame a guy for dreaming.... thought for sure I saw a MotoX YBB with belt drive....Hoped that U would make it and have it at the AHMBS in Denver,February. Live in Taos,N.M., but Buchanan's in Norman,OK is going to build the bike....didn't really discuss the reality of belt drive yet....They just sent my specs to the Mother ship....</p>
<p>Still Dreaming,<br />
Laeljon
</p>JonC on "Psychlo X"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=31565#post-36981
Tue, 13 Nov 2012 00:05:57 +0000JonC36981@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Laeljon,<br />
Sounds really nice, however we don't do belt drive bikes.....</p>
<p>What dealer do you have this ordered through?</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Jon@Moots
</p>laeljon on "Psychlo X"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=31565#post-36898
Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:40:42 +0000laeljon36898@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Hope I'm doing the right thing...just ordered a Psychlo X with Rohloff,Disc brakes,belt drive, with S&amp;S couplers...I have a Zirkel with Rohloff and absolutely love how it works. Need to decide on wheels?</p>
<p>Feel like a little kid in a toy store...
</p>JonC on "Vamoots"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=9359#post-16204
Mon, 24 Sep 2012 14:41:08 +0000JonC16204@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Dom,<br />
Custom upcharge is $650.00 for any model (other than Divides, which we don't offer custom). The PR Challenge is a BIG tire (says 27mm but measures 30mm with a caliper) and they are even coming with a bigger (30mm) which I saw at the show. Nice stuff for sure. </p>
<p>The height of the tire will work in the Vamoots, however, the width is still an issue. We are working towards this as bigger tires on road bikes are the new thing.....(which I love personally)</p>
<p>Will update when we verify.</p>
<p>Dealer....I would recommend Plume Grove in Leesburg. Yes they are 3 hours away, but if you are pulling the trigger on a custom, I could not think of a better person to fit you than Tom. Give him a call and make the time to visit the studio....they are great people.</p>
<p>If you are dead set to shop on-line try Wrench Science.</p>
<p>Thanks....yep spam filter going up a notch this week. Bummer.</p>
<p>Jon@Moots
</p>Domestique on "Vamoots"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=9359#post-16020
Sat, 22 Sep 2012 16:40:22 +0000Domestique16020@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Holy Crap!</p>
<p>What's up with all the spam lately on the forum? I've never seen it this bad before.</p>
<p>D.
</p>Domestique on "Vamoots"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=9359#post-15879
Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:30:22 +0000Domestique15879@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Welcome back Jon, please see my recent previous post(s) in this thread above.<br />
Thanks,</p>
<p>D.
</p>Domestique on "Vamoots"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=9359#post-15478
Wed, 19 Sep 2012 02:15:13 +0000Domestique15478@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Jon,</p>
<p>Please see my previous post (they got buried under the spam).</p>
<p>Also would like to add to above questions, what is cost for S&amp;S couplers?<br />
And how much for 'full' custom fit (instead of just sloping top tube)?<br />
Thanks,</p>
<p>D.
</p>Domestique on "Vamoots"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=9359#post-15265
Sun, 16 Sep 2012 22:15:28 +0000Domestique15265@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Jon,</p>
<p>Questions about the current Vamoots;</p>
<p>1. What is the upcharge for the custom geometry (sloped top tube similar to CR)?</p>
<p>2. Is there clearance for the Challenge 'Paris-Roubaix tubular?</p>
<p>3. We don't have a local authorized Moots dealer (Lynchburg, VA), can you recommend an authorized on-line dealer?<br />
Thanks,</p>
<p>D.
</p>Anonymous on "Compact SL - Geometry Table"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=6623#post-15181
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</p>JonC on "Vamoots"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=9359#post-13419
Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:09:03 +0000JonC13419@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Dom,<br />
The Challenge PR tire will be too big. It's marked as a 27mm but when you put a caliper on it, it's more like 30mm. I wore a deep mark in my older Vamoots chainstay last summer....so, in the end your CR will not handle that tire. You can go to a Conti 28c and be okay. The 28c is tight but won't rub.....manufacturers measure their tires differently. </p>
<p>To be really safe a nice 25c would work nicely....</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Jon@Moots
</p>Domestique on "Vamoots"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=9359#post-13412
Mon, 20 Aug 2012 10:50:10 +0000Domestique13412@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Jon,</p>
<p>What is the largest tire I can safely use on the CR? Is a tire like the Challenge 'Paris-Roubaix' tubular too big to responsibly fit? I am also taking into consideration road debris and clearance for the FD clamp.<br />
Thanks,</p>
<p>D.
</p>JonC on "Vamoots"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=9359#post-13333
Fri, 17 Aug 2012 18:27:38 +0000JonC13333@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>AggieMike,<br />
Standover would be a bit better, but we all know we ride bikes and don't stand around on them right? You would get a marginally stiffer frame with the smaller triangle....splitting hairs here.....slight weight savings in the frame with the shorter seat tube, which you would give back with the longer post needed.</p>
<p>Jon@Moots
</p>AggieMike on "Vamoots"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=9359#post-13325
Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:24:37 +0000AggieMike13325@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Out of curiosity, what is the benefit to you of a sloping top tube on the Vamoots that the CR doesn't offer? I just curious b/c it was the traditional geometry that put me in favor of the Vamoots over the sloping TT of the CR.
</p>JonC on "Vamoots"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=9359#post-13323
Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:16:38 +0000JonC13323@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Dom,<br />
No plans to offer it with sloping top tube. We kept it "traditional" to seperate it more from the CR. I understand you like the geometry, but will have to go custom to get it with a sloping top tube.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Jon@Moots
</p>Domestique on "Vamoots"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=9359#post-13277
Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:35:02 +0000Domestique13277@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Jon,</p>
<p>Any plans to offer a Vamoots with a sloping top-tube similar to the CR? I'd like to get one but unfortunately paying the custom upcharge for the sloped top tube is a deal killer.<br />
Thanks,</p>
<p>D.
</p>tbill on "Compact SL - Geometry Table"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=6623#post-9991
Wed, 25 Apr 2012 23:56:50 +0000tbill9991@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>That's correct, the geometry of the SL versions of the Vamoots and the Compact were the same as for the non-SL versions. Iirc, there was a slight change (~5mm increase) in hth's from 2005-2006—I believe that that geo chart is accurate for '06 - '09. Perhaps Jon can confirm when he's back.
</p>Domestique on "Compact SL - Geometry Table"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=6623#post-9990
Wed, 25 Apr 2012 22:19:09 +0000Domestique9990@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>ROO,</p>
<p>I found this, it's the geo table for the standard Compact but it probably also applies to the SL tool (can SL owners please confirm, thanks).</p>
<p>D.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/images/moots-2009/moots-geometry/moots-compact-geometry.gif" rel="nofollow">http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/images/moots-2009/moots-geometry/moots-compact-geometry.gif</a>
</p>ROO on "Compact SL - Geometry Table"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=6623#post-9978
Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:16:22 +0000ROO9978@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Anyone have a complete table available? I'm trying to figure out which size has a virtual TT of 52cm.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>ROO
</p>JonC on "Stock Vamoots TT slope comparison"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=4808#post-7911
Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:24:20 +0000JonC7911@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>cento1,<br />
It comes down to the longer head tubes..... and a couple of other points... </p>
<p>If you look back at the geometry of the Vamoots the head tubes have gotten longer over time because more riders requested this change. We listened and started making them stock with that longer head tube so riders could avoid the massive 100mm of spacers under the stem and avoid going custom. </p>
<p>But, along with making the head tubes longer we have to bring the top tube up the head tube to avoid having too much protrusion above the top tube. If you get much more than 2.5 above the top edge of the top tube, the head tube wants to bow when welded....this makes head set adjustments bad and we believe an overall bad way to build bikes. So, we bring the top tube up on the head tube which gives it more slope. </p>
<p>It's a hard one to get around....if we wanted to keep the top tube level, we could increase the seat tube length...but then you start to lose stand over height....not something that is good either. </p>
<p>We try to balance the relationship all of these have with each other to build a great riding bike, without sacrificing our build principals along the way.</p>
<p>Let me know if you have any other questions.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Jon@Moots
</p>cento1 on "Stock Vamoots TT slope comparison"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=4808#post-7903
Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:12:10 +0000cento17903@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>John, but why you've changed the TT slope on you stock 2012 line up??,the 52 for example went to 3.6 deg. what’s the reason behind that and when did the changes take effect? I know some still wanted the traditional classic bike look nowadays,, thanks
</p>JonC on "Stock Vamoots TT slope comparison"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=4808#post-7895
Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:35:43 +0000JonC7895@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Cento1,<br />
Satellite is correct....the Vamoots never had a true level top tube. The reasons for this are....longer head tubes require a bit of slope in order to not have too much head tube above the top tube and the second reason is looks....If you have a level top tube the bike almost looks like it slopes forward. It's an eye trick for sure.</p>
<p>So yes, most of the Vamoots of that era have about 2 degrees of slope.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Jon@Moots
</p>Satellite on "Stock Vamoots TT slope comparison"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=4808#post-7880
Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:39:37 +0000Satellite7880@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>cento1,</p>
<p>My VaMoots are larger frames 56 (2006) and 57.5 (2004) they both have a 2 degree slope. The VaMoots never had a true level top tube but the VaMoots is a lot flatter than the Compact.</p>
<p>Satellite
</p>cento1 on "Stock Vamoots TT slope comparison"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=4808#post-7878
Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:10:16 +0000cento17878@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Hello everyone,,I was just wondering if the stock vamoots line-up TT slope changes from 2011 below ??,I’m looking at size 52 to be specific which says 2.1 deg slope,,just curios if it was zero or less on the earlier year models.thanks
</p>Domestique on "Applying Decals"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=626#post-2475
Mon, 27 Jun 2011 22:49:46 +0000Domestique2475@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Yep... that's what got me too, my feedback repair stand tore mine up. I've since learned to wrap a piece of foam pipe insulation around the seatpost when working on the bike. So far so good...
</p>signalMTB on "Applying Decals"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=626#post-2473
Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:36:57 +0000signalMTB2473@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>I'm curious as to why the decals have such a short life...these Moots decals are quite fragile. One time on the park stand at home and my seatpost decals are already peeling??!!
</p>Domestique on "Applying Decals"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=626#post-2471
Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:04:10 +0000Domestique2471@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>The dog and I just got back from our walkies and I checked the mail before heading in and guess what... Kassi @ Moots (she's great) sent me another set of seatpost decals and this time she even included the destructions! So now I have a spare set and I also scored a sweet Moots sticker too, Awesome!</p>
<p>D.
</p>