Due to the recent discussions that have been going on the forum ,I would like to give some views about this.

Regarding Yahoo’s post I would like to say that this wasn’t the right way to start a discussion about assigning a new mod. Yahoo the fact that you included my name on the list without ,at least, informing me was impolite.
I do not wish ,and never will, to become a mod. The reasons are that I find this task meaningless ,since the work of a moderator is not appreciated, they get abused by unhappy players, they have to spent countless hours figuring about the right verdicts, not to mention the frustration and thought they have to spent even when they are not in front of the computer screen. In fact the majority of moderators that I had the chance to meet since November ,in my opinion, do this job only for their satisfaction of penalising people.

I would like to ask Cyn and Trace why don’t you want to assign a new moderator? I believe you can find people who are active in the game and meet the qualifications being a moderator. The new guy can use the accounts of a former moderators, just give him username and password. I think Matt did his mod work using Bill’s account, so why cant this be done again with a new person? There is already one ex-mod willing to give his account to help resolve this problem.
Furthermore, I’m tiered of reading excuses using Kreso’s name ‘’Wait until Kreso comes’’ ‘’Its Kreso who will decide’’ ‘’None but Kreso can do that’’ Who are you kidding? Kreso is not coming ,he doesn’t care about this server, he has said that one million times. Its up to present active players to decide what is going to happen, so don’t undermine people’s intelligence using that excuse.

Regarding the fact Theunknownamus being a candidate. This is a bad suggestion, because he doesn’t meet the qualifications.
I have chatted with Theunknownamus several times and I find him a very pleasant lad to talk with. He is liked by many people in the game but this is not enough to give him modship. Taking into consideration that he has been playing this game for eight months,I think, and the fact that has a bad sense for prices ,which I have witnessed in multiple games that I played with him, there is no way he can rule cheat trades and team play. He could me suitable for ruling abusive language but nothing more.

Regarding the rules. There are only two rules written down by Kreso and as I understand based on those two, moderators make their decisions. But what happens when the ruling of one moderator is different to another’s? When Trace was active she said: ‘’Auctioning is allowed, but I will say this...the type of auctioning as above which does/can really ruin a game we deeply frown upon. But are unable to punish.’’ Yet Cyn penalised Phazed for auctioning. This doesn’t add up.. Either all moderators rule the same way or write down all the rules that are to be considered!

Regarding Bez’s posts. Bez we haven’t talked a lot and I know only little about you. However reading all these post that concern Sim or other players I have to say that you cross the line. You don’t have mod’s authority but still you constantly threaten ,especially Sim, with bans etc. As I see he has been more than polite to you at his responses. You have no right to intimidate and threaten people in that way ,especially when you are not an active mod.

Finally, I would like to mention the fact that members of this forum are not allowed to raise their own voice openly. Cyn I feel that everyone regardless their experience on this game have the right to say their opinion. You warned Sim ,saying that he is trying to cause trouble in forum. This isn’t right, you should let all members stating their own mind about all kind of subjects. If you don’t like someone’s post or even think that he is wrong ,you can just ignore it. People have their own judgement here and can understand if someone has a valid point or not.

Correction: I have been on the FORUM for 8 months (Registered in October 2009) but I have playing the GAME for about 2 years. My first two accounts "Jackminnow" & "Unknownamus" were made around April 2008.

About prices: No one is perfect. Ive made some dumb offers & gotten ripped off before but I learned those were wrong & made better decisions later. Im confident enough that I could rule on trades. If I'm not sure on one, I will request that a different Mod rule on it, much like Jim used to do.

Nillo.
I dont know when you come on GM . Iam here almost from beginings of GM . I know what is happend here and what are intentions of some players -people . I mentioned ionly two players here and i did say their names . My attacks on Sim and Judd are not without fakts .Sim wont to give his mod acc to new mod and that is what he can't do and he know that . Yes , he is politle to me becouse he knows that iam wright . Iam not so harsh with him , i think . Iam only saying what will happend if he give his acc to anyone else . And ,just to mention , he is one of the ex mod who abused that mod power and lift a ban to Joker . Did Cyn punish him ? No . But she warned him . I did the same with my post. Its not personal atack , like you said . Its what will happend to all if they abuse their ex or active mod power .
About Kreso .
You think that server is for free ? Kreso is paying this server to stay with his game on line . Many things changed from the time he was here last time . He give all power to Bill ( Gaz ) who ( with Kreso help ) did all changes here and put new moderators and lift mod power to ex mods . Now , Bill isnt here for long time and the only contact with Kreso is my contact with him by e-mail . He works hard and have no time to come here everytime we call him . He said to Bill and me - Dont call me for one thing . Make shure that you realy need me and than i will come and make changes . Thats his words - beleve me or not . I send him e-mail yesterday and Iam waiting for his respond . Like I said in one of my post , we need to make list of new moderators and list of ex mods so he can change their acc .
Regardin my mod autorothy , Iam still a lobby mod in charge ( active mod )and have autorothy to help and make sugestion to mods in charge , ok . I bet you didnt know that . Bill and Kreso put me there . I asked to be only a lobby mod due my bad english and i have no problem with that .
Finaly , Iam not doing all this only to threaten someone I dont like . If you read some of my earlier post . I said that Sim did a good job with all that tournirs in past , but now , its something else . This is constantly atack on moderator only becouse his greed for points (Unrated and casino games )and breaking rules ( giving acc to another player ) .
Iam doing this only to help that this game stay on line . If player -members consist on atacks on moderators constantly , than GM future is not good , beleve me .

yes ur right ur helping gm by pointing fingers all the time on others who are not ur friend but if u dont mind should i tell u who is breaking the rules mr bez_________________
No expectations, no disappointments.

Yes Sim . Iam wright . And for me all Gm players are online friends to me . Maby you have enimys . I dont . I have only several players who dont like me , like we all have here . And I dont have need from you to tell me who is breaking rules here . You did it several times with no punishment . I wonder why .

Regarding Yahoo’s post I would like to say that this wasn’t the right way to start a discussion about assigning a new mod. Yahoo the fact that you included my name on the list without ,at least, informing me was impolite.
I do not wish ,and never will, to become a mod. The reasons are that I find this task meaningless ,since the work of a moderator is not appreciated, they get abused by unhappy players, they have to spent countless hours figuring about the right verdicts, not to mention the frustration and thought they have to spent even when they are not in front of the computer screen. In fact the majority of moderators that I had the chance to meet since November ,in my opinion, do this job only for their satisfaction of penalising people.

I agree with this quote up to the point of penalising people for their own satisfaction.

Nilo911 wrote:

I would like to ask Cyn and Trace why don’t you want to assign a new moderator? I believe you can find people who are active in the game and meet the qualifications being a moderator. The new guy can use the accounts of a former moderators, just give him username and password. I think Matt did his mod work using Bill’s account, so why cant this be done again with a new person? There is already one ex-mod willing to give his account to help resolve this problem.
Furthermore, I’m tiered of reading excuses using Kreso’s name ‘’Wait until Kreso comes’’ ‘’Its Kreso who will decide’’ ‘’None but Kreso can do that’’ Who are you kidding? Kreso is not coming ,he doesn’t care about this server, he has said that one million times. Its up to present active players to decide what is going to happen, so don’t undermine people’s intelligence using that excuse.

totally disagree in this instance. in judds case he broke a very basic rule and thus lost the respect and trust of the very people who voted him. bill was the person he let down the most. because he violated his mod obligations this trusted position from the people who had faith in him also at the time put a dark cloud on his ability to deal with any future decision making regarding mod duties. the rule about ex:mods being sacked from a trusted position is a sensible one. this is why he will never be re:assigned a mod position

on the other hand you are right about kreso he doesn't have any interest in this game that I agree with

passing accounts is a big NO NO I'm sure CYN has a alternative contact to kreso

about the mod situation if CYN is happy take on the mod status solo then I say all power to her. she will eventually assign new mods but this will be when shes ready. at the moment everything seems to be running shes doing a pretty good actually

Nilo911 wrote:

Regarding the fact Theunknownamus being a candidate. This is a bad suggestion, because he doesn’t meet the qualifications.
I have chatted with Theunknownamus several times and I find him a very pleasant lad to talk with. He is liked by many people in the game but this is not enough to give him modship. Taking into consideration that he has been playing this game for eight months,I think, and the fact that has a bad sense for prices ,which I have witnessed in multiple games that I played with him, there is no way he can rule cheat trades and team play. He could me suitable for ruling abusive language but nothing more. ..

I actually know of this person through his other accounts and deem him quite suitable hes been around for awhile not as long as me but enough to know how to read game plays and for that my opinion of him hasn't changed because your relatively new to GM you kinda have to dig more into a persons GM past to make a bold assumption like that, but I will give him the benefit to prove himself you never know he could surprise all of us and be of great benefit to the game and forum.

Nilo911 wrote:

Regarding the rules. There are only two rules written down by Kreso and as I understand based on those two, moderators make their decisions. But what happens when the ruling of one moderator is different to another When Trace was active she said: ‘’Auctioning is allowed, but I will say this...the type of auctioning as above which does/can really ruin a game we deeply frown upon. But are unable to punish.’’ Yet Cyn penalized Phazed for auctioning. This doesn’t add up.. Either all moderators rule the same way or write down all the rules that are to be considered! .

this is something that has to worked out in different circumstances not every game is the same so I think cyn handled this ruling fairly and she did it with integrity

Nilo911 wrote:

Regarding Bez’s posts. Bez we haven’t talked a lot and I know only little about you. However reading all these post that concern Sim or other players I have to say that you cross the line. You don’t have mod’s authority but still you constantly threaten ,especially Sim, with bans etc. As I see he has been more than polite to you at his responses. You have no right to intimidate and threaten people in that way ,especially when you are not an active mod.

again 911 you don't no the history between these two... lets be fair they are both as bad as each other how these two are able to publicly voice there dislike for each other is laughable at times... how I see things bez says things without realizing the consequences... with sim he has a very crafty way of pulling bezes buttons thus getting bez all riled up without realizing what shes doing to the community so sim isn't the innocent victim here by no stretch of the imagination

Nilo911 wrote:

Finally, I would like to mention the fact that members of this forum are not allowed to raise their own voice openly. Cyn I feel that everyone regardless their experience on this game have the right to say their opinion. You warned Sim ,saying that he is trying to cause trouble in forum. This isn’t right, you should let all members stating their own mind about all kind of subjects. If you don’t like someone’s post or even think that he is wrong ,you can just ignore it. People have their own judgement here and can understand if someone has a valid point or not.

again I have to dis:agree with your reasoning as far as I see things you are free to express basically anything you want in this forum within limits of not repeating the same old subject over and over again which sim is guilty of doing in some of his other posts I've seen thus getting under the nose of cyn this can be very distracting to a person who does a mod job at her own expense and time without no self gain to her at all. sim used to be a mod hes the very one who should be setting an example for the community but he seems to choose a different approach these days where he looks for help to push his opinion across in the lobby thus gaining support through other players this tactic seems to be working very intelligently if you ask me he talks about unity and whats best for GM in general but I can't help but think hes pulling other peoples strings to get what he wants behind the scene and don't tell me this isn't true sim I have been there in the lobby when you've been mustering up support to help you win your argument in the forum on my others accs

take what ever you want from my view but also note this I'm no newbie here Ive been around since this game was 6 months old and since that time I've gotten to know the true GM culture no pill aint going to fix it over night only peoples willingness to make it happen will.

jaord who ever you are is none of my business but if i remember correctly u was banned by me for using abusive language when i was mod if i am correct

now i can see from where all your words are coming from

in one post you r saying

[quote=jaord_b]well this thread is starting to turn into an ego clash[/quote]

and now u doing the same urself

jaord_b wrote:

in judds case he broke a very basic rule and thus lost the respect and trust of the very people who voted him. bill was the person he let down the most. because he violated his mod obligations this trusted position from the people who had faith in him also at the time put a dark cloud on his ability to deal with any future decision making regarding mod duties. the rule about ex:mods being sacked from a trusted position is a sensible one. this is why he will never be re:assigned a mod position

it is easy to say what others have done & pointing fingers on them

judd broke the rules agree what about trace , cyndi & bez

why dont u say something against ur friends who also have abused their power

instead you are favouring cyndi who saved her close friend & misused her power for her own benefit

and now u telling she should have all the power & she should take on the mod status solo

sorry no1 should be allowed to handle all the powers as we have seen what can happen

real fact is trace, cyndi & bez should resign from their position & should come forward

otherwise they should be removed immediately from their status for their negligence & absued of their power

only after that we should try to find the right solution with help of gm community

no1 is above gm community .....straight & clear_________________
No expectations, no disappointments.

sim I'm not going to dwell on my past actions hell I ain't perfect I got a temper I will always confront people who think they can swear or belittle me in a game no matter who it is I still do... that ain't going to change I've always been known for for expressing my views like that and if it means swearing at a person who swears at me then so be it that aint going to change no matter the consequences

the only problem I see in most of your posts is you talk about the negative side of people especially mods in general. here is my perception of you from what I've gathered since I've been back playing this game. your a hypocrite you talk about something along the lines of unity and how to make GM better your words that basically have no meaning it seems

as far as I see thing here sim... CYN is the boss here she has the support of the majority who play this game and for that you will never have that level of respect or support in this place in your lifetime ever

not once have you mentioned the good that cyn has done all you can do is look for evidence that previous mods have done when they had their titles the question about judd your going off track here my remark is about him applying for mod duties as you know he will never be mod again so why would you go off track with useless information about other mods where my previous statement was directed at only one person as per the post starters comment

First of all i agree that the forum should be a place where players can voice their opinion without threats being made for doing so.

2nd....there should be more than 1 mod ...there was only once instance where there was 1 mod and that was back when bill was it however kreso was still active and all decisions when through him...

3rd.....many of the things that sim is complaining about now are sims own doing..he was all for shutting people down to prevent them questioning his decisions in the forum when he was a mod and now its come back to bite him

4th.....regardless of who you are once you are no longer a mod you are not entitled to and nor should you touch any of the tools given to mods...there are far too many people kicking about with the ability to access logs etc

5th....the game is losing more and more players as time passes and the focus should be about increasing numbers instead of inhouse squabbling

6th... i will say this in cyns defence she has a demanding and thankless job so cut her a bit of slack

7th....imo most of those people suggested for mod position will just create more problems as they lack experience in the game

i dont play so much anymore but would not like to see gm close.. it was and can be again a great place to hang out....anyway take my thoughts anyway you like but they are meant to be constructive not destructive_________________why try so hard to fit in ....when you were born to stand out

Hehe . Now we are all friends ? Now , all members on GM are friends and against you Sim ? How come ? What happend ? Helen and Bez friends ? hehe . Maby after this we become , becouse she said realy good 7 points in her post . Good points Helen , my future new friend...maby ..Buy the way , big welcome back from oldy Bez .

Jaord, I base my opinion to the fact that I have witnessed his biddings in games and he has few points despite playing for some time this game. Making verdicts ,especially since they are questioned so frequently, must be made only by experienced players.

Nilo, forgive me if Im wrong, but I think we have yet to play a game together; Multi-player, 2p, or otherwise. So Im not sure what you're basing these assumptions on. And bidding is a seprate issue than trading. If I was to make a wrong verdict (which I most likely won't) it could simply be overruled by another Mod. About low points, I don't play often on the same account (im constantly switching) so they may not accumulate to huge amounts. (15k in one, 10k in another, 5000 in a different etc). I have played a large # of games however which I think is more important than how many points I have.

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as far as I know new mods start off on a probational trial I wouldn't expect cyn to give him full mod duties, to earn full mod status I would gather cyn would make her mind up whether he has the right stuff or not whether she takes him on is another story the poll created wasn't a formal call for mod registrations. as you have already stated this person who started it had no right to mention names without their/your permission. so basically once cyn starts a poll then we will all no that it is official.

911 I have played with you in mostly 2p games and you are a pretty good player not sure if we have played in anything higher. but based on the way you play with me in that format maybe you have some substance in your disapproval of theunknownamus so I think I'm going to sit on the fence regarding theunknownamus. and basically stay neutral to any future mod debates. but I do hope cyn is planning on having one soon