I'm thinking of getting To Save Us All From Ruin for my dad for christmas. His dad (who is 91) was also a Colorado farmboy who joined the army in WWII, although he was a mechanic in the Pacific theater.

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Cause there's no place in the world of porn for women over 30....
Posted by: Cougar and MILF pron at December 24, 2015 09:39 AM (zt+N6)

there is?
see what i can learn at aces?

i did see mentioned midget porn, so i suppose it's a real deal.

Posted by: willow at December 24, 2015 09:41 AM (ZKlDy)

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1 Re: porn mom - the story says she's 20 years old and has a 5 year old son. So she had her first kid at the age of 15. No issues there, nosirree.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at Decembe

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I was friends with a woman that had her first child at 15. She was on welfare long enough to get her son and daughter into school, then went to work. She was barely 5 foot, but worked as a carpenter tender and pulled green chain at a lumber mill. She was tough and never whined about her lot in life.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 24, 2015 09:43 AM (Lqy/e)

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i guess i should actually read the porn mom link. but i just can't bring myself to click.

Posted by: willow at December 24, 2015 09:44 AM (ZKlDy)

32So,they're out to get a female Republican Hispanic
governor. Did the Boston Globe report on any of the countless occasions
when Ted Kennedy was 3 sheets to the wind at Christmas parties?

Preemptive strike in case someone wants to vet her for the v-p slot on the repub ticket. I voted for Susana Martinez in the 2010 election just before I left the state because I respected her platform and also Dollar Bill Richardson, the serial groper. Also, Santa Fe is a wholly democrat owned town.

Posted by: huerfano at December 24, 2015 09:44 AM (NSb9d)

33
So the kid sees his bike and thinks of mom in the remake of Long Schlong Silver

37
Megan Oakley believes that if children are sexually active, even if they are not of the age of consent, they should be provided with contraceptive.

Speaking on This Morning the 19-year-old said: 'I'm obviously not saying for ten years old to go out and have sex but if they are having sex before the age of consent they should be using contraceptive to avoid teen pregnancy.'

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My favorite story about my friend has to do with her son. She'd been trying to potty train him but he just wasn't getting it. She hit the fed up point, took him outside and hosed him off. He never messed his pants again and doesn't seem to be scarred for life. Both her kids turned out okay, but she is a strong willed woman.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 24, 2015 09:52 AM (Lqy/e)

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55 If you want to know what this Dump is about, follow the Monet.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 24, 2015 09:50 AM (DLIIY

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>>>The House of Representatives is now run by one of the most eloquent spokesmen for the ideas of our party and our movement
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1) I might have been born at night, but i wasn't born last night

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Apparently here there were two funnel clouds in the sky yesterday. Tornado warnings are not common 2 days before Christmas. Must be Global Warming!

Posted by: buzzion at December 24, 2015 09:57 AM (zt+N6)

85Watched Spotlight last nite. Not as bad as I thought it would be due to Michael Keaton. Problem is is that the subject has been done to death. Also, it is the msm praising the msm. And yes, people knew this crap was going on. Gloria Alred of all people was constantly railing about it in the 80s and early 90s. Plenty of blame to go around including the parents.

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I should have qualified that. I'm talking about voters, not party operatives.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 24, 2015 09:55 AM (u5gzz)

That's the really scary part. You know there are states and districts where, if you were a Republican, and you were willing to run for office on a platform of "the Republican Party is broken, and beyond repair," you would win landslide victories.

Where are these guys? Where are the guys already in office, talking about the destruction of their Party?

Sure, we hear rumblings, but nowhere near matching the anger and sense of betrayal people (i.e. voters) have.

90The Hated Eight or what ever it is called is the worse movie ever. I cant believe people like his crap. Acting bad, dialogue bad, plot bad. Jennifer Jason Leigh gets punched in the face repeatedly thru the entire movie. Not funny.

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Latest on PP shooter: claims his jailers are poisoning him, that he fears becoming a zombie, and wants to fire his lawyers and represent himself in court.

Alrighty!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 24, 2015 10:02 AM (NOIQH)

93Ummm, yeah. About that word 'sexy.' I don't think you know what it means.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at December 24, 2015 09:59 AM

Unless you like chix who have a heavier beard than Paul Ryan.

Posted by: Mr Scribbler at December 24, 2015 10:02 AM (z/vax)

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Watched Spotlight last nite. Not as bad as I thought it would be due to Michael Keaton. Problem is is that the subject has been done to death. Also, it is the msm praising the msm. And yes, people knew this crap was going on. Gloria Alred of all people was constantly railing about it in the 80s and early 90s. Plenty of blame to go around including the parents.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 24, 2015 09:58 AM (iQIUe)

That's the one about pedo priests?

Yeah, I'll wait for the movie about lesbian softball and soccer coaches, grooming and recruiting 14 year old girls into the club.

Now, that would be a movie!

I don't mean sex scenes, you pervs. I'm talking about an untold story.

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I tend to say something like 'have a good holiday' to strangers because it covers more than just the day of Christmas, especially if it's early in the season. But if Christmas is tomorrow (for instance) or otherwise pretty soon I will say merry Christmas.

In that vein, merry Christmas!

Posted by: Lea at December 24, 2015 10:04 AM (EDW3H)

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The party is worse than dead. It is now an appendage of the Democrat-Socialist movement.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 24, 2015 09:57 AM (uRmWf)

I've been saying that for a while. They've become a "loyal opposition", they're completely on board with the agenda and just playacting in order to provide a pressure valve to keep the public in check.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 24, 2015 10:04 AM (HalrA)

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93. Unless you like chix who have a heavier beard than Paul Ryan. - Mr Scribbler

Rep. Paul Ryan
defended his omnibus bills controversial expansion in the H-2B visa program, which would allow foreign workers to fill blue-collar American jobs, by arguing that if the provision were not included, American companies would be forced to shut their doors.

Breitbart

????
FIRST this putz RINO traitor argued the numbers were so small to be insignificant and not worthy of further comment. NOW those numbers are saving American Business????

Must be the new improved RINO talking paoints?

CUE THE SHILL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 24, 2015 10:07 AM (gf8BH)

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What a lovely and touching holiday story about porn mom! Seriously? Great parenting there dummy.

I never got the appeal of Tarantino at all. I thought his movies sucked. My friend and writing partner raves about "Inglorious Basterds" but I refuse to see it. And after his public beclwoning of himself with BLM and anti-police garbage, I will likely never see it. I consider that a blessing.

On a side note, I always thought Jennifer Jason Leigh was a damn good actress. Too bad she kind of faded away after "Hudsucker Proxy" and "Washington Square."

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What a lovely and touching holiday story about porn mom! Seriously? Great parenting there dummy.
Posted by: Cheri at December 24, 2015 10:07 AM (oiNtH)

You don't happen to have her phone number? Asking for a friend

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 24, 2015 10:08 AM (gf8BH)

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The Christmas Spirit
Is that hope
Which tenaciously clings
To the hearts of the faithful
And announces
In the face
Of any Herod the world can produce
And all the inn doors slammed in our faces
And all the dark nights of our souls
That with God
All things are possible,
That even now
Unto us
A child is born!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 24, 2015 10:08 AM (qES5k)

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>>What a lovely and touching holiday story about porn mom! Seriously? Great parenting there dummy.

She's giving him the gift of a lifetime - a lifetime of being teased by other boys about seeing his mom's porno movie. Thanks, mom!

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She's giving him the gift of a lifetime - a lifetime of being teased by other boys about seeing his mom's porno movie. Thanks, mom!
Posted by: Lizzy at December 24, 2015 10:09 AM (NOIQH)

Ah your mother wears Army Boots

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 24, 2015 10:09 AM (gf8BH)

118Watched Spotlight last nite. Not as bad as I thought it would be due to Michael Keaton. Problem is is that the subject has been done to death. Also, it is the msm praising the msm. And yes, people knew this crap was going on. Gloria Alred of all people was constantly railing about it in the 80s and early 90s. Plenty of blame to go around including the parents.

Agreed. But I'm a contrary SOB. Whenever I hear anyone screeching about pedo priests, I always counter with, "can you tell me, by percent, what the average of priests molesting kids is compared to government school teachers molesting kids? And once you've done that, perhaps you'd like to ask all these hot-shot, crusading lawyers why they're gung-ho to go after the evil Catholic Church, but not one of them will take on the predators of the Teacher's Association?

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On a side note, I always thought Jennifer Jason Leigh was a damn good actress. Too bad she kind of faded away after "Hudsucker Proxy" and "Washington Square."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 24, 2015 10:08 AM (uRmWf)

Yes, she was wonderful in Hudsucker Proxy... such an odd movie, that was. But entertaining as all heck, viewed as a straight up parody of Capra movies.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 24, 2015 10:10 AM (Dj0WE)

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100 I've been saying that for a while. They've become a "loyal opposition", they're completely on board with the agenda and just playacting in order to provide a pressure valve to keep the public in check.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 24, 2015 10:04 AM (HalrA)

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But Paul Ryan is a very eloquent spokesman. Have you heard the guy talk?

http://tinyurl.com/h8vkmel

You can not like the guy and still think he is an eloquent and gifted man.

Posted by: chemjeff at December 24, 2015 10:11 AM (uZNvH)

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I never got the appeal of Tarantino at all. I thought his movies sucked. My friend and writing partner raves about "Inglorious Basterds" but I refuse to see it. And after his public beclwoning of himself with BLM and anti-police garbage, I will likely never see it. I consider that a blessing.

On a side note, I always thought Jennifer Jason Leigh was a damn good actress. Too bad she kind of faded away after "Hudsucker Proxy" and "Washington Square."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 24, 2015 10:08 AM (uRmWf)

==========
His formula is simple. Just a lot of crazy skits with lots of violence, no real plot.

I cd not get thru Inglorious Bastards. Every thing he does comes across as bad parody.

Frosty the Snowman
Had an enormous carrot schlong
With two acorns nuts
That he stuck in butts
In pornos all day long...

Everybody sing-a-long!

Posted by: naturalfake at December 24, 2015 10:11 AM (KUa85)

126
The Defense Department doesnt want more guns in the hands of stateside troops, but the Republican commander-in-chief hopefuls do.

This week, presidential hopeful Texas Sen. Ted Cruz reiterated his support for arming military recruiters in shopping malls and public spaces to ensure their safety against the threat of terrorist attacks.

A few days later, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul offered legislation that would not only arm recruiters but also allow any service member to carry a concealed weapon while on duty, in accordance with local laws.

Now THAT would be a great Christmas Present!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 24, 2015 10:12 AM (gf8BH)

127That porn mom is just using her son as an excuse to do this. She should instead be teaching him to be grateful for what he gets.

Now that she's outed herself, I daresay what her son will get is all of his school chums showing him their cell phones loaded with pics of his mom.

You can blame me for going there first, but the rest of you pervs would have gotten there eventually without my help.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 24, 2015 10:13 AM (Dj0WE)

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>>"can you tell me, by percent, what the average of priests molesting kids is compared to government school teachers molesting kids?...

Also, did this go against the church's teachings?

OK, now how about what Boko Haram is doing? Or what happened in Rotterham?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 24, 2015 10:13 AM (NOIQH)

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The Catholic Church handled the sex scandals terribly. That's a pretty commonplace observation at this point.

However, the industry that drove "the Coreys" to suicide and excused Roman Polanski's behavior is not one to be lecturing anybody else on covering for pedophiles.

And "heroic reporters?" Don't make me plotz. They went after the Church with glee because Christians are the enemy. Show me a NY Times or Boston Globe reporter who uncovers the secret of Obama's college transcripts or the funding behind BLM, to name just two areas of interest, and I'll show you a heroic journalist.

Also one whose stories would be killed by the editor or buried on page 32 of section D.

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Apparently Republicans can't party like it's 1999, unlike say this President with buds like JayZ.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2015 10:14 AM (xIOm+)

138And "heroic reporters?" Don't make me plotz. They went after the Church with glee because Christians are the enemy. Show me a NY Times or Boston Globe reporter who uncovers the secret of Obama's college transcripts or the funding behind BLM, to name just two areas of interest, and I'll show you a heroic journalist.

Let me know when they start looking very deeply into the life of Obama's former Safe School's Czar.

Posted by: buzzion at December 24, 2015 10:15 AM (zt+N6)

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Not only are most of the movies listed on the best of 2015 list in the sidebar bad, the worse are really awful and many with big stars. Hell, I never even heard of these movies even tho they had major stars.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 24, 2015 10:15 AM (iQIUe)

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127
That porn mom is just using her son as an excuse to do this. She should instead be teaching him to be grateful for what he gets.

Now that she's outed herself, I daresay what her son will get is all of his school chums showing him their cell phones loaded with pics of his mom.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 24, 2015 10:12 AM (X6fMO)

I would hope that a bunch of 5 year old boys don't have cell phones loaded up with pr0n of the one kid's mom, for lots of reasons.

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I thought about replacing the volume knob on my guitar, and searched for one that would go to Eleven. The internet is a constant reminder that there are no more original ideas.

Except a porn parody of Downfall. Surely that's never been done.

Posted by: bourbonchicken at December 24, 2015 10:15 AM (/NaQx)

142Show me a NY Times or Boston Globe reporter who uncovers the secret of
Obama's college transcripts or the funding behind BLM, to name just two
areas of interest, and I'll show you a heroic journalist.

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About every other day as I walk among the natives I come across an old fart or two who have more money than Gawd and still bitch and moan about everything. I ask them politely where they hail from and the answer always seems to be "Commienecticut" or "Massholechusetts". Seems all the old retired fascists fucked up their home states and are now spreading their filth elsewhere. Bastards.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 24, 2015 10:20 AM (ZK4rU)

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119 Yes, she was wonderful in Hudsucker Proxy... such an odd movie, that was. But entertaining as all heck, viewed as a straight up parody of Capra movies.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 24, 2015 10:10 AM (Dj0WE)

I thought that performance gave Rosaling Russell a good run for her money in "His Gal Friday."

Coen Brothers. Now THOSE guys can make movies with originality and flair. Tarantula-face Talentless Tino is a ripoff artist.

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I was looking around for Christmas presents to see what mommy got me. I checked her sock drawer and I'm getting a lightsaber!

Posted by: buzzion at December 24, 2015 10:21 AM (zt+N6)

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Seems all the old retired fascists fucked up their home states and are now spreading their filth elsewhere. Bastards.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 24, 2015 10:20 AM (ZK4rU)

The nice thing about WI, its going from blue to red, slowly but surely for at least a while. The retired leave and no one comes to take their places. Still a hell hole here but a GOP that is conservative helps

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Coen Brothers. Now THOSE guys can make movies with originality and flair. Tarantula-face Talentless Tino is a ripoff artist.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 24, 2015 10:21 AM (uRmWf)
****
Hell, Leo, I ain't embarrassed to use the word - I'm talking about ethics.

Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer
Liked to bite testicles
Though if you were a lady
He would bite your chesticles
All of the other reindeers
Were tired of getting sodomized
when Rudolph would get horny
and that crazy look into his eyes...

Everybody sing-a-long!

Posted by: naturalfake at December 24, 2015 10:24 AM (KUa85)

174"The Danish Girl" - the story of the first transgender and it's being marketed as a love story?

Wait that's a story about a transgender? Gee the commercial make no mention of that. I wonder why.

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If I live that long-because I have a bad virus, but am just tired of being in bed-I will cook imperial duckling with a sauce of current jelly and port wine and orange peel, etc. (It's like something you get from a Chinese restaurant.). Otherwise, I won't care who'd doing the cooking but it won't be me. ;^)

182Yeah, who doesnt want to hear about more TG crap? Another subject done to death.

The Thousand Year Boner! Yeah, that has possibilities. Hitler parody or full fledged porn?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 24, 2015 10:27 AM (iQIUe)

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I think part of the reason reporters don't stand up to left wing billionaires who buy the newspapers they work for is stupidity. Reporters simply aren't nearly as intelligent and well-informed as they think they are.
They even lack the fundamental attribute of intelligence known as self awareness--which is, in my mind--a big part of the reason they are capable of the stunning levels of hypocrisy shown in that whole Ted Cruz cartoon thing.
Just my opinion.

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The Dainish Girl (from IMDB): A fictitious love story inspired by the lives of Danish artists Lili Elbe and Gerda Wegener. Lili and Gerda's marriage and work evolve as they navigate Lili's groundbreaking journey as a transgender pioneer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lili_Elbe

Posted by: Lizzy at December 24, 2015 10:28 AM (NOIQH)

187
Well I could not copy-paste Paul Ryan's speech comments because of Pixy's stupid 500 error crap.

But if you read the transcript of what he said, it could have come from Ted Cruz or Carly Fiorina. There is no inconsistency in praising his rhetorical gifts while still criticizing his actions.

189
I appreciate that if people are going to do porny versions of Christmas songs thats they're doing it with secular ones (Gives a new meaning to "ho, ho, ho", doesn't it?) and not with lovely religious ones. Thx.

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I know it's not the book thread but I'm reading "The Most They Ever Had" by Rick Bragg. If there is ever a book that will make you feel grateful for what you have, it's this one. It's about mill workers and what the loss of their jobs meant. Bragg is one of my favorite writers.

He tells a story about a worker that was told to hook up a downed electrical wire. The company wouldn't shut down the power for him to do it and he was electrocuted. His wife sued and lost. The company argued that he should have known better.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 24, 2015 10:34 AM (Lqy/e)

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I like this Noah Hawley guy who writes Fargo the tv show. He puts in a lot of talmudic and other religious stuff, too.Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 24, 2015 10:30 AM

That parts fine. Season two they have Ronald Reagan in a bathroom in 1979, completely losing his train of thought. I kid you not. Nothing remotely related to the central plot.

207
And the Rex Reed worst films list sucks too. All it does is say who is in it and says "this actor/actress was awful" without describing the plot or going into any details unlike the (b.s.) precis of the Best list.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 24, 2015 10:35 AM (DLIIY)

208WaPo: If Trump wins the nomination, prepare for the end of the conservative party

by George F. Will

If you look beyond Donald Trump's comprehensive unpleasantness -- is there a disagreeable human trait he does not have? --

209
The rest of the story about The Danish Girl? Apparently the person died after the final surgery to give them a vajayjay. As for the wife, well the dear State ruled they no longer had a valid marriage and she went to find another man.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2015 10:36 AM (xIOm+)

210
WaPo: If Trump wins the nomination, prepare for the end of the conservative party

211 If I live that long-because I have a bad virus, but am just tired of being in bed-I will cook imperial duckling with a sauce of current jelly and port wine and orange peel, etc. (It's like something you get from a Chinese restaurant.). Otherwise, I won't care who'd doing the cooking but it won't be me. ;^)

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I thought the song was funny, MWW, and I liked hearing your accent.

And on a related note, one of my favorite memories of Christmas was when the boy was young enough to do the NORAD tracking for Santa; he was so excited.

Can I just be grouch here for a moment, and say that I can't stand pompous people who wonder whether we're doing kids a disservice by lying to them about Santa? I understand if you have religious objections to it, but Hot Air has some article in its headlines with a link someone from a website Called "Real Live Science" mulling over whether its harmful to teach children a belief in an invisible being.

And this is the thing [progressives] miss: More bureaucracy means less opportunity - because big government and big business don't fight each other so much as feed each other. This is how it works: Smart, talented people go into government thinking the only way to fix complicated problems is with complicated laws - laws that only people like themselves can understand. They make new bureaucracies. They put up red tape. And then? And then they go into the private sector and help businesses navigate the very maze they created. If the insurance industry does not understand how Obamacare works, why not hire the person who ran it? This works out great for them. But what about the rest of us? What about the people who can't get ahead because costs are too high . . . or who don't create jobs because the laws are so confusing? And so round and round the revolving door goes, all while the people stand on the sidelines.That's how today's experts become tomorrow's cronies. And that's why we don't think government should bulk up the bureaucracy. We think it should break up problems so people can solve them themselves. Don't hire more bureaucrats. Don't leave it up to their discretion. Set clear, firm rules that all of us can live by - rules that tell us what's expected and what's off limits. And then let the people go to work. That, to me, is the conservative insight: Don't outsource to the bureaucracy. Crowdsource.That kind of government would not only preserve equal opportunity. It would protect the dignity of the individual. Bad government tries to blunt what makes each of us unique. Good government defends it. Bad government tries to tie us all down. Good government frees us to be our best. And so is government important? Absolutely - it's essential. But there's no mistaking the field for the game. What government is supposed to do is create an environment where the individual can thrive and communities can bloom. In other words, government makes things possible, but the people make them happen.

Missouri residents soon will not be able to use their state driver's licenses as identification to get into most federal facilities, making it at least the fourth state to lose a federal exemption from complying with national proof-of-identity requirements.

A letter from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to Missouri informs the state that its exemption from federal Real ID requirements will come to an end Jan. 10. That means Missouri driver's licenses cannot be accepted as ID at most federal facilities. It also could eventually mean that Missouri driver's licenses won't be accepted as identification for commercial airplane flights.

llinois is in the same boat, as are Minnesota, New Mexico and Washington.

As one of about 10 famous gay personalities in entertainment at one time, he just got lost in the sea of gay everything in the 1990s.

"Oh, you're gay, Rex? So what. It's 2015, sweetheart. Who isn't?"

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 24, 2015 10:41 AM (KCQo0)

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I like this Noah Hawley guy who writes Fargo the tv show. He puts in a lot of talmudic and other religious stuff, too.Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 24, 2015 10:30 AM

One more thing -- isn't the character played by Billy Bob Thornton the one who speaks these religious lines?

Then minutes later blows someones brains out at point blank range? Are you accepting the subliminal message without complaint?

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 24, 2015 10:41 AM (7v/r5)

229
WaPo: If Trump wins the nomination, prepare for the end of the conservative party
by George F. Will
If you look beyond Donald Trump's comprehensive unpleasantness -- is there a disagreeable human trait he does not have? --
http://tinyurl.com/hqzezx8
Bitch, please.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 24, 2015 10:35 AM (kdS6q)

Somebody tell George something that never was cannot die. And take off that stupid ass bow tie you pasty elitist.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 24, 2015 10:41 AM (ZK4rU)

230
You want us to give him kudos for being a fucking liar?
Posted by: that makes sense at December 24, 2015 10:37 AM (dbDB8

232
But I understand how the game is played, praising Ryan in any way, even *honest deserved praise*, is to give aid and comfort to the socialist enemies, so we can't have that
Posted by: chemjeff at December 24, 2015 10:41 AM (uZNvH)

233Can I just be grouch here for a moment, and say that I can't stand pompous people who wonder whether we're doing kids a disservice by lying to them about Santa? I understand if you have religious objections to it, but Hot Air has some article in its headlines with a link someone from a website Called "Real Live Science" mulling over whether its harmful to teach children a belief in an invisible being.

That's precisely why I don't have a problem with kids and Santa Claus. It introduces them to the idea of a nice person seeing your innermost thoughts and your actual behavior 24/7.

And it works well as a behavior modification for unruly young'uns, too.

234
I've got a question for Grammie Winger, if you're hanging around. How do real, home-made crafted with love Swedish meatballs, differ from the stuff you can buy at Ikea?
I take they're far superior but what's the difference?

238
71 degrees and I just hung the bed sheets on the clothes line. No. They're black.

Posted by: Eromero at December 24, 2015 10:43 AM (b+df9)

239
229 WaPo: If Trump wins the nomination, prepare for the end of the conservative party
by George F. Wil
-----------------

oh my, what will George & Charles have to discuss at the next DC cocktail party? That O'Reilly is a wind bag? Nah, that would cut into Chaz's paycheck. Baseball? Yeah you two can talk about baseball and continue with your clueless notions of what this country is about.

240
Since I'm the one that made chemjeff start doing his typical crap allow me to say, that it not whether Ryan is some eloquent speaker that is some problem. Its that the third sentence is about that. It tells you how the article is going to go. And its bullshit.

252
I keep next to nothing in "savings". Now, I do keep money in Roth CD's: all the benefits of a savings account once the money hits 5 years old, with all the tax advantages of a retirement account.

Posted by: Chupacabra at December 24, 2015 10:47 AM (W2YA6)

253
249 Classic Nazi pron of course is Ilsa She-Wolf of the SS that was shot on the same sets as Hogan's Heroes when that crew was done for the day.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2015 10:46 AM (xIOm+)

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>>>Can I just be grouch here for a moment, and say that I can't stand pompous people who wonder whether we're doing kids a disservice by lying to them about Santa?

FS, my parents always told us Santa was mom and dad and a game we were playing. They didn't believe in lying to their kids. I guess that's sort of odd and I don't know if it made any difference one way or the other but I told my brother it's probably best that I'm not even more cynical than I already am : )

It also led to a childhood where every year we got the lecture before we went to my grandmothers to not tell one particular cousin who really should have known the truth earlier than she did.

Most of the country doesn't vote for the #2 slot anyway so I don't think the "just a Sheriff from Milwaukee" thing would do more damage than would be offset by (a) genuine enthusiasm from true conservatives, (b) swinging a significant portion of the AA vote, or at least discouraging kee jerk mass/bloc Dem voting by AAs, (c) blunting the whole "racist meanie" theme they so love to toss out.

Also puts law and order front and center. This is 1968 all over again, potentially in a good way.

Once he gets four (or 8 years) in the Veep slot, no one can claim he's "just a Sheriff" anymore, and is positioned for the top of the ticket.

I can dream can't I?
Merry Christmas everyone.

Posted by: Ex NY Peasant at December 24, 2015 10:49 AM (k8tEg)

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Life isn't fair, and as you get older you'll find the things you believe aren't really true.

I think Santa's a great introduction to that.

Posted by: Chupacabra at December 24, 2015 10:49 AM (W2YA6)

263
yes yes, my "usual crap" of pointing out that criticizing Ryan for being an eloquent speaker is too harsh and unreasonable

Well, the disclaimer is it really works best in a large crockpot with a rack to put the duck on (or you can cut the duck into four smaller pieces) because you don't want to deal with all that fat from the duck. I may have to try it in the oven this year because I don't have that large of a crockpot or a rack that would fit in it.

Place duck in slow cooker. With a fork, prick skin of duckling all over at approx 2 inch intervals. Place ducking on rack in slow cooker (If you cook it in a smaller crock pot cut it into four pieces. In small saucepan combine onion, tarragon, orange juice, salt mustard, jelly, orange peel, wine and corn starch. Cook over medium hear until thickened. Brush 1/3 cup sauce over duck, reserving remaining sauce. Cook on low 6 to 7 hours or until duckling is tender. Remove fat with a bulb baster.
Take it out and put under broiler a bit to get the skin a little crispy. Stir orange sections into remaining sauce , heat and pour over duckling right before serving.

It's about four servings.

Nice rosy color and looks festive

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 24, 2015 10:51 AM (qES5k)

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I have no idea really. Never ever had the urge to watch that movie ever. Really.

And on the Top 40 Nazi Pron songs, Adolph covers the Tom Petty song "Don't Cum Around Here No More."

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2015 10:52 AM (xIOm+)

271I've got a question for Grammie Winger, if you're hanging around. How do real, home-made crafted with love Swedish meatballs, differ from the stuff you can buy at Ikea?

I take they're far superior but what's the difference?

Posted by: Northernlurker at December 24, 2015 10:43 AM (hJrjt)

Here at Chez naturalfake, the main difference is that-

we grind up fresh Swedish hobos.

The cheap aquavit they drink gives their flesh a most piquant flavor.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 24, 2015 10:52 AM (KUa85)

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Something I remember hearing/reading from Wes Craven (I think it was him) was that a lot of the directors of his time got their starts making porn. So it wouldn't surprise me at all that there'd be some crossover between the legit and porn worlds.

Bob Crane was wayyyyy ahead of his time.
His neighbor was Carol O'Connor and they used to watch Bob's homemade porn over cocktails in Bob's basement. Check out his son Scotty's website for a laugh riot. Bob was apparently hung like a donkey.....

Well, that's different than people writing articles lecturing people about not lying to kids about Santa. That was between you and your parents. The article is also a gratuitous slap about people with religious faith who believe in an invisible being although the article does presents the pro and cons of Santa.

When I have to go before God it's going to be a boring and lengthy recitation of my sins if it includes things like "lying" about Santa. There are much greater sins I'm guilty of.

292It appears that when Lori Berenson was released from parole and returned to the US, the msm called her an activist. No, she belonged to a terrorist organization and was conspiring with them for a major terrorist attack. Her arrest saved hundreds of lives. Well, the Peruvians are pissed off with her being called any thing but what she really was/is.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 24, 2015 11:02 AM (iQIUe)

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Shnikies. Brianna Wu is seriously in need of some plastic surgery, if xe wants to make it to the cover of Vanity Fair.

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Crane didn't end up so well. He was found bludgeoned to death in his apartment. That is where the police found his extensive video collection.
Posted by: Cheri at December 24, 2015 11:03 AM (oiNtH)

Yup...the poor bastard. The cops also theorized that he was beaten to death with a...wait for it....camera tripod! Talk about irony.

Well, that's different than people writing articles lecturing people about not lying to kids about Santa. That was between you and your parents. The article is also a gratuitous slap about people with religious faith who believe in an invisible being although the article does presents the pro and cons of Santa.

When I have to go before God it's going to be a boring and lengthy recitation of my sins if it includes things like "lying" about Santa. There are much greater sins I'm guilty of.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 24, 2015 10:57 AM (qES5k)

Actually, I've come to the conclusion that all the Santa whinging-

is just a cover for militant atheism.

Honestly, the fabrication is so minor-

and the joy, my siblings and I, and now my kids receive from it is so great,

that I can't conceive of anyone getting that upset or really upset at all over their parents telling them about Santa Claus.

Only weird hatchet-heads with Daddy or perhaps Mommy Issues or other delightful personality issues could possibly be upset over such a harmless thing.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 24, 2015 11:07 AM (KUa85)

304Auto Focus was great. Well worth watching. Greg Kinnear and Willem DaFoe were awesome as a total pair of creeps.

Time for me to scoot. Weather is actually nice so best be on the road before that changes and cancels family holiday plans.

Everyone have a blessed time and when temper flares, step away from the cage match if possible.

Will post a song sung by Hayashibara Megumi. From All Purpose Cultural Cat Girl Nuku Nuku called Touch Me Softlyhttps://youtu.be/Vog9A5Rf_eg

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2015 11:10 AM (xIOm+)

312Crane didn't end up so well. He was found bludgeoned to death in his apartment. That is where the police found his extensive video collection.Posted by: Cheri at December 24, 2015 11:03 AM (oiNtH)Robert Graysmith (author of Zodiac) wrote a book about the case, The Murder of Bob Crane, which puts forth the theory that Crane's "best friend," John Carpenter, was responsible for the murder, believing that Crane had tired of Carpenter's company and, when Carpenter realized that Crane was dumping him - and, as well, cutting off the supply of women he got secondhand from Crane - he snapped and bludgeoned him to death.The book was retitled Auto Focus when the 2002 film came out. Greg Kinnear played Crane and Willem Dafoe Carpenter. It's OK, but no great shakes.

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I was pretty depressed when I figured out that there was no pot of gold at the end of a rainbow. I even took off one time looking for it. But it got dark and cold so I head home. Got about 6 blocks, too.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 24, 2015 11:11 AM (iQIUe)

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And my irritation about people lecturing others about not encouraging a belief in Santa comes from having to deal with militant Atheists who apparently think it's the apex of profundity and intellectualism to say, "Well gee, Santa's just like God isn't he-an invisible being who's knows whether you're naughty or nice and rewards or punishes- you?

uhhh-no. God is not Santa Claus and neither is Jesus. Do you want to talk about the Bible, tradition, reason and experience or do you just want to get off t a stupid guip, cackle and high five your homeboys?

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Back from checking out the morning thread. Meh. No Vic News for Christmas Eve. Guess that's okay. He had to anniversarize, after all.

♥

Here's an hour-long video about the Apollo 8 mission (with too much Walter Cronkite, apparently the only news anchor in existence in 1968, but otherwise watchable). The moon landing the next year gets all the historic glory, but this was the first time people went to the moon. I watched it twice yesterday. Very moving. And Christmasy. Even religious! Also, lots of people smoking right there in mission control!

Thanks, I'll check it out as I like crime stories. I do know that Carpenter was acquitted of his murder and that he maintained his innocence until he died, but that may have more to do with the ineptitude of the Scottsdale police in the original investigation.

Posted by: Cheri at December 24, 2015 11:14 AM (oiNtH)

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I didn't know that. Was it any good?
Posted by: Cheri at December 24, 2015 11:05 AM (oiNtH)

I always like Bob Crane and the movie shows he was a total sex maniac who banged every broad on Hogan's Heroes as well as cruising bars and nightclubs with his buddy and using his fame to get women. Kinda like Clinton in so many ways.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 24, 2015 11:14 AM (ZK4rU)

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Yeah, I want to do The Thousand Year Boner, as enacted by the AoShq Playas!

You can pick a historical figure from that time period and go all porny talk. Adlib of course.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 24, 2015 11:14 AM (iQIUe)

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The Murder of Bob Crane, which puts forth the theory that Crane's "best friend," John Carpenter, was responsible for the murder

THE John Carpenter? Or just a guy who happened to be named John Carpenter?

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I know some people who saw both "The Bishop's Wife" and "The Preacher's Wife" and they preferred the former, but they're people who love older films.
It's a very "nice" film.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 24, 2015 11:24 AM (qES5k)

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Can I just be grouch here for a moment, and say that I can't stand pompous people who wonder whether we're doing kids a disservice by lying to them about Santa?

--------------------------

A Catholic blog (I'm Lutheran) I used to follow had this discussion. The cries of lying being a sin and one poster going on about how it ruined his trust in his parents for decades afterwards left me stunned at their thinking.

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She was barely 5 foot, but worked as a carpenter tender and pulled green chain at a lumber mill. She was tough and never whined about her lot in life.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 24, 2015 09:43 AM (Lqy/e) Haven't heard the term "green chain" for years and years. She has to be one tough lady. My first job out of high school was working in a lumber mill. Hot nasty dirty work.

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It's that wonderful time of year when you're told there's no war on Christmas right before being ordered to remove all decorations from public places and say holidays in the workplace. Joyful generic greetings citizen.

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345
Can I just be grouch here for a moment, and say that I can't stand
pompous people who wonder whether we're doing kids a disservice by lying
to them about Santa?

--------------------------

A Catholic blog (I'm Lutheran) I used to follow had this discussion.
The cries of lying being a sin and one poster going on about how it
ruined his trust in his parents for decades afterwards left me stunned
at their thinking.

---------------Cue the "first world problems" theme. My parents prided themselves on being good modern Lutherans, and so disabused my sister me about Santa Claus about the time I was in first grade.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 24, 2015 11:27 AM (ry4ab)

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"The cries of lying being a sin and one poster going on about how it
ruined his trust in his parents for decades afterwards left me stunned
at their thinking."

Never, ever in my life thought anything about it. Much less hated my parents over it.

370
Three gifts you can give Jesus-from Pastor Jim Cymbala of the Brooklyn Tabernacle. A Christmas Eve devotional i do like this guy; I hope someday I can navigate the train/bus subway system and get to a service he preaches at:

Why is it that palatable rum sells for less than valurite vodka? it's a mystery to me.

Posted by: Kaspar Gutman at December 24, 2015 11:33 AM (Wu2k4)

Most rum is made in Puerto Rico. They have special tax deals, aka sugar used for rum, can be imported without US import fees
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 24, 2015 11:36 AM (jJRIy)
***
Well, I'll be damned - a subsidy that actually does me some good.

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Meanwhile among the Republican presidential candidates, Trump is having a very merry Christmas. Rubio Cruz are hanging their stockings with care, the others are probably doing their best to enjoy the Nativity and not think about poll numbers.

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370 Three gifts you can give Jesus-from Pastor Jim Cymbala of the Brooklyn Tabernacle. A Christmas Eve devotional i do like this guy; I hope someday I can navigate the train/bus subway system and get to a service he preaches at:

I've read a number of Cymbala's books. I used to have a CD by the Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir (probably still do but lost track of it with a couple of moves and my switch to iTunes.)
Brooklyn Tabernacle seems to be a genuinely impactful church.

But the economy has never been better, comrades. And let the peasants stare in awe of Barry's golf game.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 24, 2015 11:43 AM (45oDG)

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Merry Christmas, y'all. May Santa bring you what
your hearts desire, and may you and whoever you're spending it with be
in good spirits.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 24, 2015 11:39 AM (HalrA)

Santa, make my dick 15 inches and work!

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 24, 2015 11:43 AM (jJRIy)

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Thanks for all the support.Posted by: Nip Sip at December 24, 2015 11:41 AM

You're a Philadelphia eagles fan, right? If you're not manic/depressive the past four months than something IS the matter with you. Chin up, two more wins this season and its the playoffs.

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 24, 2015 11:44 AM (7v/r5)

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If anyone is going to church and has a new pastor/priest this year, please keep them in prayer. No matter how many times you've officiated at a Christmas service, it always makes the pastor nervous to have to officiate in front of new people-many of who they've never met before. If you're a person who is naturally an introvert you get performance anxiety because you want to do a good job and you know that with some of these folks it's your one and only chance. Pray that they feel upheld and strengthened the peace and love of Christ, and affirmed in their calling. if your pastor has never done a Christmas service before because they started at another time of the year they need extra prayers.

And I worry this year because of threats of violence in order to shut churches down

In other news, my candy thermometer is apparently broken and I ruined the fudge. Oh well.

Posted by: Lea at December 24, 2015 11:42 AM (EDW3H)

NO NO NO. It was called Holiday Innhttp://tinyurl.com/qgwdk2o

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 24, 2015 11:46 AM (jJRIy)

404
I saw holiday inn too and I see the comparisons but I love white Christmas so much more.

Posted by: Lea at December 24, 2015 11:46 AM (EDW3H)

405
It's getting harder and harder to find plain valurite vodka, everyone's doing the flavored vodka thing these days, two dozen flavored vodkas at $40 a fifth and nary a bottle of valurite to be seen.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at December 24, 2015 11:47 AM (vptMd)

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404 I saw holiday inn too and I see the comparisons but I love white Christmas so much more.

Holiday Inn is a kick! I particularly like the scene in Black face! Can You imagine them doing that now?

It's very impactful and they have started churches in lots of other places. I always find it inspiring that it started out as a storefront church and it's now huge, and it's not a "Mane it and claim it church". thank goodness. Ads you know Cymbala attributes the growth not to anything he did-really- but all to the grace of God and fervent prayer. The prayer is foundational for their church as you know. I have read some of his books too.

I just find that so hard to believe and very scary. I thinik it means the middle class is almost gone.

Posted by: t-bird at December 24, 2015 11:48 AM (Z58Xa)

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"Most Americans Have Less Than $1,000 In Savings" They mean in a traditional passbook savings account at 0% interest. Anybody who has substantial money in a 0% account is financially illiterate.

So the story is a big nothingburger.

Posted by: gp at December 24, 2015 11:48 AM (+Jpqc)

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>>>>s going to church and has a new pastor/priest this year, please keep them in prayer. No matter how many times you've officiated at a Christmas service, it always makes the pastor nervous to have to officiate in front of new people-many of who they've never met before. -FS
------
On the bright side the Preacher won't see a lot of them until Easter or the following Christmas

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George Will's whining about how if Trump is nominated, the conservative party is done for.

What conservative party George?

There is no conservative party. You and others of your ilk have made being a conservative something no self respecting young idiot would ever think of being.

As a result our number shrink and the GOPe has made sure we never get mentioned or allowed to make any laws or stand up to any crap from the Democrats.

It's YOU that's the problem George. Not Trump.

(gotta laugh he has to write this in the Washington Post. The irony is apparently lost on him.)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 24, 2015 11:56 AM (Xo1Rt)

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FS: ...one of my favorite memories of Christmas was when the boy was young enough to do the NORAD tracking for Santa; he was so excited.

I remember Dad coming into the bedroom I shared with my brother, late on Christmas Eve, to give us the NORAD report on Santa's progress.

I remember the year one of our daughter's friends told her the "truth" about Santa. She was old enough (if one can ever be) that it wasn't too bad. We gave her the "now you get to be Santa, too, for little kids" talk.

There must be a themed cocktail party that they hold every week where they wear the old wigs and pretend to be Founders.

Posted by: t-bird at December 24, 2015 12:04 PM (Z58Xa)

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Miracle on 34th St. features a humorless career woman who doesn't believe in lying to her daughter about imaginary beings like Santa Claus. Obviously the story is imaginary (really!) but the viewer is meant to see O'Hara's character as initially narrow minded and joyless.

As are those who hold similar views 60 years after that film was made. Dull modern day killjoys and puritans, the lot of them.

Your NORAD GIVES us tracking data so we can shoot down your SAINT NICK???

Posted by: Abdhul, in charge of SAMs for ISIS at December 24, 2015 12:05 PM (f7rv6)

429
I really must congratulate myself for inventing the idea of going to the beach for Christmas week.

Posted by: Weasel at December 24, 2015 12:07 PM (IPirI)

430
So I'm making the rice pudding, right? I mix all the ingredients together - the eggs, the brown sugar, the half and half, the butter - all the stuff in the bowl. Whip it all up and pour it in the baking dish. Then I think to myself - why isn't this bowl full? This is way too small of a batch for rice pudding. Then it hits me - I forgot the rice.

431
I felt so un-American when I read that less than 1K in saving but then clicking thru, yup I have very little in my saving account. The interest rate is so pitiful its not worth bothering to shift money into it. If I have a big unexpected expense I'll take the hit to the money market and otherwise I'll just keep some cushion in checking.

Sheldon should have just announced he bought the paper but everyone would have a chance to keep their jobs IF they actually report real facts.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 24, 2015 12:07 PM (chkUd)

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Going to work early on Christmas Eve. Then visit some friends and come home to have my Christmas Eve steak.

Can you imagine a bombastic Trump Media Empire of papers and TV stations? Entertaining, at the very least.

Posted by: t-bird at December 24, 2015 12:11 PM (Z58Xa)

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I was just looking at the ad with the baby and creepy Abuela and Abuelo? Hil and Bill.

That is one infant that needs prayer. Growing up in wealth is good and all but that baby will have the moral equivalent of fetal alcohol syndrome (FAS). It could be called fetal depravity syndrome (FDS).

Poor child.

Posted by: Northernlurker at December 24, 2015 12:12 PM (hJrjt)

439429 I really must congratulate myself for inventing the idea of going to the beach for Christmas week.

Posted by: Weasel at December 24, 2015 12:07 PM (IPirI)

1985... first year stationed in Hawaii... no leave....

So planted Christmas Tree in the Sand, on the Beach, at Waimaha Beech...

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"Wild turkey just doesn't give me that waking up in an alley with my face in a hookers ass feeling that valurite does."

Well, bottom-shelf does have its qualities.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 24, 2015 12:15 PM (jfGh+)

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There are times I get depressed because we have a party where insufferable twits like Charles CW Cooke delude themselves into believing they are "Paid Thinkers", with some unique and interesting perspective on conservative dogma.

Then I read someone like Peter Beinart on the left torturing logic trying to make people believe America is moving left.

We are the stupid party, but not the stupidest party.

Posted by: jwest at December 24, 2015 12:15 PM (Zs4uk)

447
WeaselDog has been enjoying the hell out of running along the beach and sniffing to her little noses content.

449
Super slow day at work. I think I've set a personal best for clicking the refresh button.

Posted by: Northernlurker at December 24, 2015 12:17 PM (hJrjt)

450
T-bird. Well I have this fantasy of finding a conservative manager and having a coalition to buy papers and every new purchase there would be a speech. "Tom and Harry are fired, their stories have been so partisan and fabricated we don't believe they can reform; the rest of you are on a probationary period. We are not asking you to do P/R for conservative candidates but you had better get actual facts and write straight stories that simply report those facts w/o trying to spin for your favorite progressive or you'll join Tom and Harry in the unemployment line"

Posted by: PaleRider at December 24, 2015 12:18 PM (chkUd)

451We are the stupid party, but not the stupidest party.
Posted by: jwest

Heh. Natalie was lovely, but not the brightest bulb, perhaps... I remember reading a story that she and some other starlet had a menage a trois with Warren Beatty going and Natalie had the bright idea of filling her bathtub with champagne so they could all decadently wallow around in it. She got in first - and started screaming because when your hooha is submerged in alcohol, it's not a good feeling.

453
That old guy Vic doesn't recognize a strong schlongservative like Rich Lowry speaks for all schongservatives everywhere, like George Will and Jonah Goldberg. And he also did us the favor of kicking Mark Steyn to the curb. Don't mess around with strong schlongservatives

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I find that Class 6 shops on military bases have good valuerite prices. As all you military morons and ettes know that is old fedcal. It ain't Stoli nor Buffalo Trace but hit sho do gits the job done. Only problem is the gate guys and that firearms thing.

Posted by: Eromero at December 24, 2015 12:19 PM (b+df9)

458
Finished all my errands and will dine with conservative friends tonight. And that is that.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 24, 2015 12:20 PM (DUoqb)

459I'll have you know that the reindeers shoot drones out of their asses! You can't stop Christmas, you goat humper!

Posted by: Jolly Old St. Nick, now with Extra Scary Assault Rifle at December 24, 2015 12:13 PM (P8951)

St. Nick.... St. Nick.... Please deploy stealth at this time.. but be advised we have CAP over your entire flight path...

and the Russians have been given our IFF, marked you as Friendly...

We note you have no flight path over Washington DC... good call Sir...

NORAD, out....

Posted by: BB Wolf at December 24, 2015 12:20 PM (f7rv6)

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"It has probably warmed up a few decrees so make it about 20 degrees Fahrenheit."

Ma-fucker, damn.

*thanks for doing the Celsius-to-Fahrenheit thing there for me*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 24, 2015 12:21 PM (jfGh+)

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Don't they all perform sex acts to get presents? Is this something new?

Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 24, 2015 12:22 PM (vgIRn)

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From Wiki The success of the song White Christmas eventually led to another film based on the song, White Christmas (1954), which starred Crosby, Danny Kaye, Rosemary Clooney, and Vera-Ellen. It was an extremely loose remake of Holiday Inn, with a plot again involving an inn, but otherwise different from the earlier film.

I have the 1954 version.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at December 24, 2015 12:22 PM (t2KH5)

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I find that Class 6 shops on military bases have good valuerite prices. As all you military morons and ettes know that is old fedcal. It ain't Stoli nor Buffalo Trace but hit sho do gits the job done. Only problem is the gate guys and that firearms thing.
Posted by: Eromero at December 24, 2015 12:19 PM (b+df9)

Yeah I never found the liquor prices on base that great a deal, HOWEVER, the proximity is inviting

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 24, 2015 12:22 PM (DUoqb)

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460 "It has probably warmed up a few decrees so make it about 20 degrees Fahrenheit."

Ma-fucker, damn.

*thanks for doing the Celsius-to-Fahrenheit thing there for me*
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 24, 2015 12:21 PM (jfGh+)

You're welcome. I did grow up in Fahrenheit. The odd thing is this feels not bad to me.

Posted by: Northernlurker at December 24, 2015 12:23 PM (hJrjt)

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I am mixed with the Santa Claus hoax on kids. I was around 6 and had much older cousins and still remember almost 50 years later where and when (and it was in July) it happened.

Posted by: Skip at December 24, 2015 12:23 PM (k0xxN)

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DHS Planning Raids To Deport Hundreds Of Illegal Central Americans And Announcing It Across Media Before Hand

Who announces raids before you make them? Unless you want to alert your target

Weasel Zippers

But then again this brain dead Admin also announces all troop movements and withdrawals years in advance. Top men!

I've thought of going a different route: offering these papers as well-paid finishing schools. Hammer the hell our of the Left for us as you hone your craft as a propagandist. I think it's the Debate Club model: the issue or side doesn't matter. Hone your technique and become eminently employable.

The catch, of course, is that when they go back to the Left, they'll no longer have Reality on their side.

Posted by: t-bird at December 24, 2015 12:25 PM (n22zQ)

468
yes the republican party is over. they failed to reform after 2008

469
457 I find that Class 6 shops on military bases have good valuerite prices. As all you military morons and ettes know that is old fedcal. It ain't Stoli nor Buffalo Trace but hit sho do gits the job done. Only problem is the gate guys and that firearms thing.
Posted by: Eromero at December 24, 2015 12:19 PM (b+df9)

My kids get a huge kick out of it when my Dad visits and shows his ID at the gate of the Academy.

'Course, when my Dad was my age, he was a general. I work in a cubicle.

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I'm somewhat mixed on the Santa thing myself. I don't have a problem in principal. And Santa at Christmas parties is fine--but I prefer to have the grandchildren know their presents came from an Opa and gramma who love them and think about them, rather than from Santa Claus.

Personal preference.

Posted by: Northernlurker at December 24, 2015 12:26 PM (hJrjt)

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We did Santa Claus with our kids but never made a huge deal of it. It was pretty much in the background, limited to stockings and that sort of thing. We did take them to the mall to sit on Santa's lap. However, we skipped the Easter Bunny thing completely. Those Easter Bunny people are creepy.

FYI yo means yes in Plautdietsch, or low German. I just wanted to share.

Posted by: Northernlurker at December 24, 2015 12:28 PM (hJrjt)

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"Haven't heard the term "green chain" for years and years. She has to be one tough lady."

She is. When she was a carpenter tender, she would lug sheets of plywood bigger than her. When she worked at the mill, her boss had to talk to her. She would sometimes get fed up with the work and jam things up so she could have a break. Fortunately, the boss had dealt with that before.

Her ex brother in law's new wife once asked her why she worked in a lumber mill. she just looked at her like she was nuts. You work in places like that because you've got kids to feed.

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One of the fathers traveling with the Muslim family banned from entering the U.S. this week has denied any alleged links to Islamist extremism after a Facebook page set up at his home address was discovered, praising al-Qaeda and the Taliban.

Breitbart

Moderate Muslim?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 24, 2015 12:29 PM (DUoqb)

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There was a guy as Santa Claus was walking around the grocery store talking to little kids, I did think it was a good idea.

No; it doesn't make you a terrible person. You are clearly not a terrible person. :^) What I don't care for from either religious or non religious folks is lecturing others about how they must not pretend about Santa-as if anyone who does so is a liar and a terrible parent.

"He's a breath of old-timey, masucline cologne in an increasingly feminine world"

I'd quibble with that a bit. The US and much of the west is becoming feminized in many ways, but mostly in charging white males with rape, the KKK gene, white privilege, and being too manly.

The cutthroat treacherous left at its core is not feminized at all, it will castrate others so it can have all the power. While Obama has a feminine side, the Democrat/commies are unapologetic in their vicious attacks on the right, and Kennedy and Clinton rose to the top seemingly on the wave of their negligent homicide and multiple molestations (alleged).

And the rest of the world is still invading and chopping heads off, right up to the border in Mexico where cartels kill off whole police forces. The Muslims we invite in are maybe westernized, but not all. They don't shed all their male tendencies but they are approved since they are part of the diversification that will help break down our coherent society.

The commie plan is a 100 years old, and in the 60's it became clear they wanted to feminize US, to weaken us. But Putin or Mandela were still strong male warriors. Winnie did take up the slack for her man while he played protester, and she made sure the necklace tortures and murders continued ... but that is not exactly feminism.

Posted by: Illiniwek at December 24, 2015 12:31 PM (5Gpe2)

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I confess that grammie used the whole "naughty or nice" threat on the 4 year old grandboy. He sorely needed threatening.

And we gave Easter baskets for a short time but they were always from us-not the Easter Bunny.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 24, 2015 12:32 PM (qES5k)

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Wasn't that a party.
Could have been the whiskey.
Might have been the gin.
Could've been the three four six pack I don't know.
Look at the mess I'm in.
My head is like a football, I think I'm going to die.

Posted by: WOPR at December 24, 2015 12:32 PM (LTDSy)

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482 Wasn't that a party.
Could have been the whiskey.
Might have been the gin.
Could've been the three four six pack I don't know.
Look at the mess I'm in.
My head is like a football, I think I'm going to die.
Posted by: WOPR at December 24, 2015 12:32 PM (LTDSy)

487
Went last night to get presents -- 24-hour Meier and WalMart FTW! Youngest went to work (she got some great hours this week, so she will be basking in the double time. Have to run the vacuum before I spread out to do the wrapping/labeling.

My parents enjoyed Santa (Easter Bunny, Leprechauns, etc), but they put the twist that Christmas was the one night of the year the animals talked -- pets had better be treated well, or else! We also put out carrots for the reindeer rather than milk and cookies. Apparently, we gave parents a hard time because we didn't have a chimney so when my Dad became a Grandpa, he looooved giving us 'Santa Keys' for our front doors.

If you don't believe, you don't receive.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 24, 2015 12:34 PM (MIKMs)

488
No matter how many times you've officiated at a Christmas service, it always makes the pastor nervous to have to officiate in front of new people-many of who they've never met before.

====

I listened to a new priest completely lose it once during his first outing on Christmas. wasn't the most comfortable thing, and its now many years later an odd memory to have still.

489
The other part of maybe why I mixed about Santa is I use to work with a guy (from a few years to 24years ago) is he would tell the story that at the age of 15 he still believed in Santa. I heard the story often and he did seem proud of it so could only take it as true.

Even the intentional uglification cannot overwhelm the innate succulence.

Funny coda from the comments:

"The woman on the right on the photo was one of the founders of Femen in Brazil, a loathsome activist called Sarah Winter, who incorporated all the cliches of the radfem movement.

The funny and ironic thing is that she married to a meathead a few months ago and turned 180 degrees. She became a radical anti feminist, anti anything she once stood for and joined a ultra conservative group."

Posted by: zombie at December 24, 2015 12:37 PM (jBuUi)

492
"We had Santa, but you always knew who the presents were from.
Eventually, something would click in your six-year-old brain, "Oh, I get
it!" Santa is just an idea, a shorthand, and therefore he exists."

Zackly. You always knew where stuff came from but Santy was fun.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 24, 2015 12:38 PM (jfGh+)

493
Oh and CT has been driving business out of the state for over 40 years.

One of the highest sales taxes, over regulation, lousy schools for the poor (great ones if you've got money), Zoning laws that are ridiculous, the Electric infrastructure is the worst in the nation because the New Yorkers who live in Fairfield county won't allow the Power Company to run any new lines.

And the local sub stations, feeder lines and street lines are also decrepit. And on top of that the rates are very high.

Connecticut was once was one of the cornerstones of American Industry in firearms, military contract, engineering, transportation and innumerable small outfits supplying those larger companies.

Now? The entire industrial belt and up and down the rivers are now wastelands with rampant poverty and crime.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 24, 2015 12:38 PM (Xo1Rt)

494
Abdhul: Hah.... you silly Christians... Your NORAD GIVES us tracking data so we can shoot down your SAINT NICK???

499
The county I used to live in had been full of poor people for some time. There were two types of women - those that looked on their children as a way onto welfard and those that didn't want to be on welfare at all. The only jobs in the area were physical labor. I think about them this time of year, because they would get food stamps the first of the month. With Thanksgiving and Christmas coming at the end of the month, they had to really learn how to manage resources to have treats for the holidays.

500
I think one of the key points of Santa was watching your kid's minds begin to work around the age of six. They were figuring it out. My daughter came up to me around the Fourth of July when she was 7 and told me Santa wasn't real.
"Figured it out did ya?" says I.
It was great.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 24, 2015 12:42 PM (r65B3)

501The movie Holiday Inn was made in 1942, It was later remade as White Christmas in 1954.

With respect, Vic, White Christmas isn't a remake of Holiday Inn. It was actually designed to be a partner to the movie, reuniting Crosby and Astaire as the army men Bob Wallace and Phil Davis, but Astaire decided he didn't like the script.

Sorry to demean your righteous cause, chicas, but my first thought was, "wow, really nice tits". My second and third thoughts, too. I promise to do better.

Posted by: t-bird at December 24, 2015 12:44 PM (oFSUK)

504
485 but I prefer to have the grandchildren know their presents came from an Opa and gramma who love them and think about them, rather than from Santa Claus.

We had Santa, but you always knew who the presents were from. Eventually, something would click in your six-year-old brain, "Oh, I get it!" Santa is just an idea, a shorthand, and therefore he exists.
Posted by: t-bird at December 24, 2015 12:33 PM (oFSUK)

508
It's odd but I have come to believe that one of the big problems with modern society is the easy availability of contraceptives. It seems to lead to cultures that don't value life or children. Women that don't have kids seem to have that same Peter Pan syndrome we see in young men (and I say that as someone that doesn't have kids). And it also seems to lead to the feminization of cultures. I don't know of a solution.

Twas a cauld, cauld nicht i' the back o' the year;
The snaw lay deep, and the starns shone clear;
And Mary kent that her time was near,
As she cam to Bethlehem.
When Joseph saw the toon sae thrang,
Quo' he: 'I houp I be na wrang,
But I'm thinkin' we'll find a place ere lang;'
But there wasna nae room for them.
She quo', quo' she: 'O Joseph loon,
Rale tired am I, and wad fain lie doon.
Is there no a bed in the hail o' the toon?
For farrer I canna gae.'
At the ale-hoose door she keekit ben,
But there was sic a steer o' fremmyt men,
She thocht till hirsel': 'I dinna ken
What me and my man can dae.'

And syne she spak: 'We'll hae to lie
I' the byre this nicht amang the kye
And the cattle beas', for a body maun try
To thole what needs maun be,'
And there amang the strae and the corn,
While the owsen mooed, her bairnie was born.
O, wasna that a maist joyous morn
For sinners like you and me?

For the bairn that was born that nicht i' the sta'
Cam doon frae Heaven to tak awa'
Oor fecklessness, and bring us a'
Safe hame in the hender-en'.
Lord, at this Yule-tide send us licht,
Hae mercy on us and herd us richt.
For the sake o' the bairnie born that nicht,
O, mak us better men!

513
Contraceptives have also been responsible for the decrease in the feminity of Western Women.

It is a known fact that increased hormones will cause women to be infertile, changes in their voice and temperament, how they are able to deal with children and Males, and leads to cancer and other problems later in life.

It's also getting into the water supply and changing males too.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 24, 2015 12:52 PM (Xo1Rt)

514
501
Holiday Inn is the better of the 2 movies. The pairing of Crosby and Astaire cannot be beat. Astaire's Independence Day dance number is particularly memorable.

Posted by: Tuna at December 24, 2015 12:52 PM (JSovD)

515
My boss is Ismaeli Muslim and I have a number of Muslim co-workers (most are MINOs). The boss has no problem with saying Merry Christmas around him.
These more serious Muslims seem to draw the line at having photographs in ads that say Merry Christmas. They approve Christmas decorations around the building but not in their own offices.

517
I gave up on "from Santa" gifts this year. One set of grandkids in WA state, one set here but with three places to open stuff. Too much to keep track of. My mom would be ashamed of me.

Posted by: antisocialist at December 24, 2015 12:55 PM (cDs+4)

518
>>My parents enjoyed Santa (Easter Bunny, Leprechauns, etc), but they put the twist that Christmas was the one night of the year the animals talked -- pets had better be treated well, or else!

My mom did that too. She raised horses and dogs so we always had a few underfoot and on Christmas Eve they all got special treats.

But the best traditions we had when we were little was that Santa didn't just bring the presents, he brought everything. We'd go to bed on Christmas Eve and Santa would bring the tree and decorate the house, inside and out and put out the stockings and the presents. It was like magic when we were little.

I forget how old we were when we found out the truth but it helped explain why my father was always so exhausted on Christmas morning.

522
Funny thing about Easter--no bunny around our place but we do have Easter egg hunts for the little ones and maybe chocolate bunnies.

Posted by: Northernlurker at December 24, 2015 12:56 PM (hJrjt)

523
520 My boss is Jewish and has not problem with Christmas...wait I am my own boss
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 24, 2015 12:55 PM (DUoqb)
***
Then you're in a world of hurt - you got a hard-ass for an employer, and a 'ron for an employee

Posted by: Kaspar Gutman at December 24, 2015 12:57 PM (Wu2k4)

524
523 520 My boss is Jewish and has not problem with Christmas...wait I am my own boss
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 24, 2015 12:55 PM (DUoqb)
***
Then you're in a world of hurt - you got a hard-ass for an employer, and a 'ron for an employee
Posted by: Kaspar Gutman at December 24, 2015 12:57 PM (Wu2k4)

526
I never understood the Easter bunny either. Thought that was stupid.
Not big on the candy either...always got a crap-load of jelly beans. Hate those things.
Love the Easter story though. That's what it was about.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 24, 2015 12:58 PM (r65B3)

527
When rock-ribbed conservative Jeb! is in office, it'll be illegal for butterfaces to do porn. Even in the UK.

530
"My boss is Jewish and has not problem with Christmas...wait I am my own boss"

You better be in their earning your ass some money.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 24, 2015 01:01 PM (jfGh+)

531
I do find Santa Claus's creation to be interesting. Mostly a combination of Catholic German and Danish, Protestant German, and English traditions.

Take the gift giving of Sinterklaas(Saint Nicholas), the shift to Christmas of the Christkind(Kris Kringle), and coming from the north on a sleigh pulled by reindeer of Father Christmas. Shake well and stick it in America.

Posted by: buzzion at December 24, 2015 01:01 PM (zt+N6)

532
If I remember correctly Ukrainian Catholics have reasons for the prominence of eggs in their traditions.

Nah Christmas and New Years is a loss for me and Family is at Disney so I'm losing at both ends

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 24, 2015 01:02 PM (DUoqb)

536
I forget how old we were when we found out the truth but it helped explain why my father was always so exhausted on Christmas morning.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 24, 2015 12:55 PM (/tuJf)
___________

Single parent here -- I still have no idea how I managed two days without sleep. As soon as presents were opened Christmas morning, I was literally passed out and have no real memories of any time after 9am.

Wow: That's quite a tradition. Isn't that wonderful your parents made things so special in that way!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 24, 2015 01:05 PM (qES5k)

538
499 The county I used to live in had been full of poor people for some time. There were two types of women - those that looked on their children as a way onto welfard and those that didn't want to be on welfare at all. The only jobs in the area were physical labor.
Posted by: notsothoreau at December 24, 2015 12:41 PM (5HBd1)
Shasta County in northern California?

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at December 24, 2015 01:05 PM (22uju)

539
>>501
The movie Holiday Inn was made in 1942, It was later remade as White Christmas in 1954.

With respect, Vic, White Christmas isn't a remake of Holiday Inn. It was actually designed to be a partner to the movie, reuniting Crosby and Astaire as the army men Bob Wallace and Phil Davis, but Astaire decided he didn't like the script.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 24, 2015 12:42 PM (X6fMO)

546I love Danny Kaye so that's fine by me. Posted by: Lea at December 24, 2015 01:06 PM (EDW3H)Lea, when Paramount recast, they put Donald O'Connor in the Kaye part, but he got sick right at the start of filming and had to pull out. . .so Kaye got the part. And he was perfect, too.Now I'm out.

548I need help. If I have a 10.5 pound ham, and it says bake for 12-15 minutes per pound, how long is that? I told you I was bad at this.

15 meters.

Posted by: Lincoln Chaffee at December 24, 2015 01:10 PM (8ZskC)

549
>>Wow: That's quite a tradition. Isn't that wonderful your parents made things so special in that way!

Yea, they really went all out for us. They made us go to bed real early on Christmas Eve because you never know when Santa is going to show and if your awake he won't stop.

They needed the whole night to pull it off.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 24, 2015 01:10 PM (/tuJf)

550
545 @538, Skamania County, WA state. About 40 miles east of Portland OR area. Used to be a timber economy till the environmentalists shut it down.
Posted by: notsothoreau at December 24, 2015 01:09 PM (5HBd1) Same for Shasta County. Spotted owl, my butt.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at December 24, 2015 01:11 PM (22uju)

551
"
I need help. If I have a 10.5 pound ham, and it says bake for 12-15
minutes per pound, how long is that? I told you I was bad at this."

30 minutes. Well done.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 24, 2015 01:11 PM (jfGh+)

552
I need help. If I have a 10.5 pound ham, and it says bake for 12-15 minutes per pound, how long is that? I told you I was bad at this.
Posted by: grammie winger, Glad Tidings of Great Joy at December 24, 2015 01:08 PM (dFi94)

558
>>>546 I love Danny Kaye so that's fine by me. Posted by: Lea at December 24, 2015 01:06 PM (EDW3H)Lea, when Paramount recast, they put Donald O'Connor in the Kaye part, but he got sick right at the start of filming and had to pull out. . .so Kaye got the part. And he was perfect, too.Now I'm out.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 24, 2015 01:09 PM (X6fMO)

I don't think that would have worked! Danny Kaye had the right combo of funny and charming.

Posted by: Lea at December 24, 2015 01:12 PM (EDW3H)

559544
I need help. If I have a 10.5 pound ham, and it says bake for 12-15
minutes per pound, how long is that? I told you I was bad at this.

564
Grammie winger, do you have a meat thermometer? That's the best way to tell if it's done. Ballpark, two to two and a half hours.

Posted by: antisocialist at December 24, 2015 01:14 PM (cDs+4)

565
I would like to thank God for the fact that we had our church Christmas service on the evening of 20th, and so I don't have to get up and do any kind of Christmas service tonight when I'm running a fever and feel terrible. I feel bad for pastors who are in that position.

I would cook it like I cook a pork roast: ignore what it says on the package, cook it for 2 or 3 hrs at 275F in a dutch oven, run the temp up to 450F or more, take the lid off and when the smoke alarm goes off, it's ready. (or when the skin gets crispy. If your ham doesn't have skin, then you just need to wing it)

Then again, it's pre-cooked, right? It doesn't matter how you cook it, as long as it tastes good.

575
It's good to see people get the Christmas spirit. I mentioned to a friend that I was going to get the wife a Glock 43 for Christmas and he says, "Hold on." He ran inside and brought out a Walther PK380 and says "Tell your wife I said Merry Christmas".
Pop gun, but still...

Posted by: buzzion at December 24, 2015 01:09 PM (zt+N6)In your clip, George Will was citing Rubio's statement that illegals are necessary to sustain the welfare state. He did not say that he personally believed illegals are necessary to sustain the welfare state.

I was fcixin to cuss these bastards but then I whipped out the the calulator. Yeah, needs like 2.5 hours.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 24, 2015 01:17 PM (jfGh+)

578
Yep, local folks used to have those bumper stickers about spotted owls being tasty to eat. Plenty of spotted owls up towards Canada - they just lost their Southern range. And since the local schools were funded by timber sales, it made a bad situation even worse. Then they turned it into a "National Scenic Area", restricting development. Some folks made money on that, but not most of the folks that had originally settled the area.

Never understood why places like Monterey, CA didn't get the National Scenic Act treatment. Oh wait, rich people live there.

582
562 @550 Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at December 24, 2015 01:11 Nice. Used to go deer hunting up there when I was a kid. Grew up in Vancouver.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 24, 2015 01:13 PM (r65B3) Really miss being there. So beautiful. Not sure where anyone one hunt there anymore. Darn shame.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at December 24, 2015 01:18 PM (22uju)

583
At least it wasn't a damn word problem with trains leaving New York and Los Angeles....

Posted by: Weasel at December 24, 2015 01:18 PM (IPirI)

584
Funny thing about Easter--no bunny around our place but we do have Easter egg hunts for the little ones and maybe chocolate bunnies.
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 24, 2015 12:56 PM (hJrjt)
________

He was just pulling your leg. 17-23 parsecs will do it. And don't forget to stuff it with horseradish first.

Posted by: t-bird at December 24, 2015 01:19 PM (mxCgt)

592It's good to see people get the Christmas spirit. I mentioned to a friend that I was going to get the wife a Glock 43 for Christmas and he says, "Hold on." He ran inside and brought out a Walther PK380 and says "Tell your wife I said Merry Christmas".

How many more lives will be lost before we enact commonsense legislation to close the Christmas Gift Loophole?

Poor guy; If you do this long enough you're statistically likely to have at least one Christmas service where you feel terrible. It's worse when you have a Sunday service in the morning and then two or three the same evening.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 24, 2015 01:21 PM (qES5k)

600
More of George Will talking about the needs of the welfare state. Yay for Illegal immigrants!

https://youtu.be/XTQHb_Is9xY

Posted by: buzzion at December 24, 2015 01:21 PM (zt+N6)

601
Dave at Buffalo Roam @ 575- Walther .380Still does the job with proper shot placement. Eromero has been know to give similar 'items' as gifts.

Posted by: Eromero at December 24, 2015 01:22 PM (b+df9)

602
DJ Jazzy Mel...last deer I took was over by Larch Mountain. I loved that area. Too crowded now.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 24, 2015 01:23 PM (r65B3)

603Also in White Christmas trivia, note that Vera-Ellen never wears a
costume that shows her neck. This is because the poor thing was a
compulsive anorexic and it showed.

609Posted by: buzzion at December 24, 2015 01:26 PM (zt+N6)Well thank you for posting those subsequent links. It's unfortunate that he wants citizenship for illegals. I still think, however, George Will is a good writer and a good conservative thinker, just wrong on this issue.

Posted by: chemjeff at December 24, 2015 01:30 PM (uZNvH)

610
602 DJ Jazzy Mel...last deer I took was over by Larch Mountain. I loved that area. Too crowded now.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 24, 2015 01:23 PM (r65B3) My last one was many moons ago on US Plywood land up by Mt. Lassen. Will mention it was a lever action 30-30 so we can make this a gun thread.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at December 24, 2015 01:30 PM (22uju)

611
Is Schlafly really a post constitutional Republican, when she says Trump may be the country's last hope?

From that Trump supporter bashing article: "You can be forgiven for thinking that in Trump's world, constitutional niceties - indeed any constraints whatsoever - are for losers". Sorry ... don't forgive/accuse me, I don't think anything like that, nor do any Trump supporters I know.

I wish "they" would stop projecting their views of the Trump supporter as Troglodyte, into their pieces. It is the constant straw man, where the Trump haters misrepresent his grandiose statements (or at least fail to present context), then go on to build their straw man ignorant Trump supporter, so they can ride off as the noble constitutionalist conservative ... that loses like a Huckleberry backed Akin candidate.

Cruz or Trump ... fine, as Adelson said when asked what he is looking for ... "someone that can win". Do he and Schlafly want no constraints whatsoever? I'd argue that almost all of what Trump proposes in grandiose simplicity to the masses, can be accomplished in constitutional procedural ways.

Fiorina addressed this briefly, in saying that she would get it done, basically by effective use of the bully pulpit ... "address the nation, press one for yes on your ipad ..." Public opinion wins, guided by their representative ... the POTUS in this case. That is how congressional stalemate is defeated.

Yes, there is a sort of 'prima donna class versus blue collar class' within the Republicans, but the Trump hate is another class, where some desire to be 'pure' even if it means losing. That purity crown leads to this chest beating, straw man creating, pompous blogger type, that must demonstrate his superiority over the lowly Trumpeter.

The argument is whether a Cruz can win over Hillary, or whether we'd need a Trump to crash those Overton windows for the next eight years. The "bully pulpit" is constitutional, and maybe Trump is the only bully that can effectively reach beyond PC.

oh, and new thread up ... I'll leave this rant sitting here

Merry Christmas

Posted by: Illiniwek at December 24, 2015 01:30 PM (5Gpe2)

612
grammie winger: ...10.5 pound ham, and it says bake for 12-15 minutes per pound, how long is that?

Hold on. I know the Ewok's awake, but I gotta figure this out. Soon as I can untangle my shirttail from this here slide rule....

No. No. You dont' understand. the State Liquor stores buy only certain brands and types and sizes. You can't even order anything other than what they stock.

It's so stupid. But guess what, there's a Union behind it so it's not going anywhere anytime soon.

Corbett would've got reelected if he hadn't caved to the Unions and forced the privatization of the Liquor stores.

Had a Republican House and Senate to get er done too.

Dumb idjit.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 24, 2015 01:40 PM (Xo1Rt)

618
Yes and you can't get rid of a liquor board. We voted to get rid of the one in WA state. So, when we voted to legalize pot, guess who they put in charge? The old liquor board! And they did about as good a job there as they did with booze.

In WA state, if you try to get rid of something the bureaucrats want, they get very vindictive.

622In WA state, if you try to get rid of something the bureaucrats want, they get very vindictive.

Posted by: notsothoreau at December 24, 2015 01:44 PM (5HBd1)

Ha, you should try passing a property tax limitation measure. Talk about vindictive. They start loudly weeping and wailing and shedding those big crocodile tears and then they cut funds for police, fire, libraries, any public-facing government service, all under the guise of "well, you wanted to reduce the size of government, didn't you?"

And all those multiple layers of municipal bureaucrats with their 6-figure salaries? Their jobs are secure.