Get ready for your.....4 - 21 Raptors!!!

So, looking at the next 12 games on the schedule, with a sense of realism, not pessimism, how many of those teams would you actually predict the raptors to beat? I say likely one win between Phoenix and Sacramento. That likely means 1-11 over the next 12 games. Anything can happen but logic would dictate that result. That doesn't mean the team has gotten any worse or performed at any different level. Just what they can be accepted to do as the team is currently assembled. There are a few Orlando and Cleveland games after that. But, what do you think the Raptors society will be like at 4-21 (even though we predicted it)? Will Bryan be able to resist pulling the trigger to blow up the team? Will the media be calling for heads? Casey still around? Half empty building? Any of these might happen but I say none of them should. If they should happen then, they should happen now as the next 12 games are likely going to unfold just as planned. Hang in there. It may get ugly. See you on the other side.

I agree with the above. We could beat some of those teams, I just don't think we can expect to so finishing with that record should not affect what we think of this team. I hope I can still say that then.

Seriously? Unless we're betting Vegas style who cares in this kind of meaningless prognosticating? Your rationale is about as valid as my picks above. Watch the games, none of them were blow outs with the exception of OKC, and I'm willing to overlook that based on the early season. The rest have been incredibly close, and thanks to some serious no-calls happening it makes me believe we're not as bad as our record. I think teams like Washington and Detroit, and yes even Charlotte (despite the wins) are in trouble, we're coming out of injuries, Lowry is a stud, plain and simple, and Casey is still figuring out how to be the coach he needs to be (I'm willing to wait, I see some good things still).

Look I hate the record, and I hate the last couple of losses even more, but I think a lot of teams that have beaten us didn't coast by, they had to fight their asses off and may have also got the benefit of a friendly whistle. If that's the case, I can hang on to a little shred of hope and wait a little longer to see if we really can get this ship right.

Let's not play the guess the record game, let's just watch a couple of games instead...go from there.

Yeah, the schedule is tough and with possible new injuries to JV and Lowrey, it could get really ugly before Christmas. Only positive is that it might force some constructive changes to the team/management. My main thought today though (unrelated to post - sorry) is that we need to NOT take the lead any games - we usually can claw back when we're down, but give us a lead and things turn to shit! As soon as we get even close to leading a game, give Acey, JLIII, Ross, DM, Grey, etc some burn. As soon as we're down 8-10 points (it won't take long), bring back the regulars...

Yeah, the schedule is tough and with possible new injuries to JV and Lowrey, it could get really ugly before Christmas. Only positive is that it might force some constructive changes to the team/management. My main thought today though (unrelated to post - sorry) is that we need to NOT take the lead any games - we usually can claw back when we're down, but give us a lead and things turn to shit! As soon as we get even close to leading a game, give Acey, JLIII, Ross, DM, Grey, etc some burn. As soon as we're down 8-10 points (it won't take long), bring back the regulars...

Seriously? That's the dumbest thing I've heard in a while... you play to win, you take the lead and learn how to play with a lead. That's what good teams do and that's an opportunity for us.

Yeah, the schedule is tough and with possible new injuries to JV and Lowrey, it could get really ugly before Christmas. Only positive is that it might force some constructive changes to the team/management. My main thought today though (unrelated to post - sorry) is that we need to NOT take the lead any games - we usually can claw back when we're down, but give us a lead and things turn to shit! As soon as we get even close to leading a game, give Acey, JLIII, Ross, DM, Grey, etc some burn. As soon as we're down 8-10 points (it won't take long), bring back the regulars...

Yeah, the schedule is tough and with possible new injuries to JV and Lowrey, it could get really ugly before Christmas. Only positive is that it might force some constructive changes to the team/management. My main thought today though (unrelated to post - sorry) is that we need to NOT take the lead any games - we usually can claw back when we're down, but give us a lead and things turn to shit! As soon as we get even close to leading a game, give Acey, JLIII, Ross, DM, Grey, etc some burn. As soon as we're down 8-10 points (it won't take long), bring back the regulars...

So, looking at the next 12 games on the schedule, with a sense of realism, not pessimism, how many of those teams would you actually predict the raptors to beat? I say likely one win between Phoenix and Sacramento. That likely means 1-11 over the next 12 games. Anything can happen but logic would dictate that result. That doesn't mean the team has gotten any worse or performed at any different level. Just what they can be accepted to do as the team is currently assembled. There are a few Orlando and Cleveland games after that. But, what do you think the Raptors society will be like at 4-21 (even though we predicted it)? Will Bryan be able to resist pulling the trigger to blow up the team? Will the media be calling for heads? Casey still around? Half empty building? Any of these might happen but I say none of them should. If they should happen then, they should happen now as the next 12 games are likely going to unfold just as planned. Hang in there. It may get ugly. See you on the other side.

Scary thought. If we don't at least get to 8 wins by the 25 game mark we are done. Then we start tanking for top 3 draft pick yet again.

Im actually hoping the Raps lose more games so that the urgency to do something remains in the forefront, if they start winning games here and there, then the desire to make changes goes to the backburner, which will hurt the team in the long run.

The Toronto Raptors faced a tough schedule to start the season and suffered through some heartbreaking losses in games they believe should have won. However, until last night in Utah, the Raptors were trying to execute head coach Dwane Casey’s game plan and the locker room seemed solid in the face of adversity.

For the first time the Raptors as a group were totally out-of-sync and confused about their assignments. They stopped trying at various points during the game and blamed each other for the disaster unfolding on the court. The team meeting after the brutal 131-99 loss to the Jazz speaks volumes about the challenges the Raptors are facing.

“We gave in,” Casey told the media after the game. “I thought we splintered apart, didn’t stay together. … Tonight is the first time I have seen us give in to whatever it was. That is what we talked about in the team meeting.”

The Raptors have new corporate ownership this season involving Canada’s biggest sports media outlets and during an NHL lockout that has sidelined the group’s storied Toronto Maple Leafs franchise, the Raptors had the stage to themselves. This is not the way the team envisioned impressing their new bosses.

“You get down by that many points and it was a pickup rec game more than anything else at the end, but that is not who we are, who we represent,” Casey said. “With our organization we have one of the best ownership groups in the NBA and we are going to represent them the right way and that is not how you represent them.”

That type of performance after an unacceptable start to the season almost certainly suggests changes are coming to the Toronto franchise. However, the only change Casey can offer is one he was suggesting before the season started. It’s time to stop playing virtually every player on the roster in every game and find a rotation that can win a few more games.

“We are going to get it fixed, whatever it takes,” Casey said. “Whatever seven or eight guys we have to find to get it done, will get it done.”

And from Casey's own mouth from earlier in the link:

“Again, talk is cheap.

Yes, yes it is. You'll have to excuse me if I don't buy "...whatever it takes..." and "....whatever 7 or 8 guys we have to find to get it done...."