Ross, no, only in England. Sometimes this happens in Madrid, but not usually.

Some more stuff to laugh at today, as Man City's new owner has declared Ronaldinho to be his (Not Hughes', his) top January target. He claims that the AC Milan player is his favorite player in the world at the moment, and wants him to join the "biggest club in the world" in January.

This makes me laugh, because in Barcelona's preseason, they put Ronnie on the bench. Then, after he PERSONALLY REJECTS a move to City, joins AC Milan. Thus, he has already played for two teams this season. Does Dr. Sulliman (or however you spell it) even know FIFA's rules? You can't play for three different clubs in one season. Oh wait, if you are worth a trillion dollars you can bend FIFA's rules any way you want.

Noooo City got rid of Corluka to Spurs. He was my favourite player :-|.

Our new owner is an idiot...ok ok he can get another good midfielder and maybe another defender then he can get sacked. Ronaldo is out of the question thank God, unfortunately he's going to spend a ton of money over the next transfer window and make his own personal fantasy team pretty much. Kind of sucks, I really don't want City to become another Chelsea :?.

Yeah, that'd be a damn shame, your new owner has no idea how to run a football club. He's a complete idiot, and probably will try to make a fantasy team. That's not how to run a club. You have to feel bad for all of your summer signings, most of them will be forced out come January.

I think your new owner should follow the actions of Randy Lerner, the owner of Aston Villa. Here's a very rich man, who definitly has the best intentions of the Club and it's fans at heart, and not only seeing it as a get rich quick sceme. He's vocally supported O'Neil when it's mattered (remember when England wanted him to become their new manager? Lerner said if that's what MoN wanted to do then he'd have his full backing). But for the most part has stayed behind the scenes (besides sitting with the fans on matchdays, I believe he's been spotted doing so multiple times, word going around is that he's very friendly with the fans, and actually listens to them) and doing whatever he could to make the Club bigger (making Nike the official kit maker, making ACORNS the shirt sponsor, etc...). And most of all he has taken a hands-off approach to transfers, letting MoN do all the dealings and the only thing he does is write the check.

That's how to run a football club. If you want to make your own fantasy team, ESPN has a champions league fantasy game where you can make your own team with all the top players.

As far as I'm aware, in the Premier League today, no manager has been sacked or has mysteriously disappeared and is AWOL; no leading players who have been agitating for a transfer have been abducted and whisked away in a manner befitting of Tony Soprano (although this particular gangster's name was Alex Ferguson); and no multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-billionaire owner has bought up a side and is threatening to purchase every semi-decent player throughout the world - although we should keep in mind it is only just the early afternoon here so there's plenty of time yet! :wink:

As far as I'm aware, in the Premier League today, no manager has been sacked or has mysteriously disappeared and is AWOL; no leading players who have been agitating for a transfer have been abducted and whisked away in a manner befitting of Tony Soprano (although this particular gangster's name was Alex Ferguson); and no multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-billionaire owner has bought up a side and is threatening to purchase every semi-decent player throughout the world - although we should keep in mind it is only just the early afternoon here so there's plenty of time yet! :wink:

To all people who plan on attending the Chelsea-ManCity match tomorrow (Both Citizens and Blues):

I want to hear the support of Hughes tomorrow. I want it to be loud. I want to hear the sound of the fans telling the rich men to F off if they want to play fantasy football. I want to hear it from the masses, that football isn't a plaything for rich men looking for a quick profit. Football is football, and nothing more. Let's hear it.

Noooo City got rid of Corluka to Spurs. He was my favourite player :-|.

Our new owner is an idiot...ok ok he can get another good midfielder and maybe another defender then he can get sacked. Ronaldo is out of the question thank God, unfortunately he's going to spend a ton of money over the next transfer window and make his own personal fantasy team pretty much. Kind of sucks, I really don't want City to become another Chelsea :?.

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I agree. Corluka is a fantastic player, he was magnificent against us last year. You don't realise quite how big he actually is on tv but he is an absolute beast. Breed them big in Croatia don't they?

As for Man City becoming another Chelsea, well they are worse. Chelsea were already a top 5 team who had won FA Cups and gone far in the Champions League long before Abramovich moved in. Also, Abramovich doesn't like paying over the odds for players. Last year Sevilla wanted £24 Million for Dani Alves, he could of payed that much easily but he felt he was being ripped off and stepped away from the deal. Same happened with Robinho this year, he thought he was worth £26 Million and wouldn't go a penny over. Man City appear to be willing to pay crazy money to get players and that's really dangerous. £140 Million for Ronaldo? £60 Million for Buffon? £80 Million each for Torres, Messi, Kaka, Fabregas?

You can say what you like about Abramovich but he rarely goes over the market value price for a player.

To all people who plan on attending the Chelsea-ManCity match tomorrow (Both Citizens and Blues):

I want to hear the support of Hughes tomorrow. I want it to be loud. I want to hear the sound of the fans telling the rich men to F off if they want to play fantasy football. I want to hear it from the masses, that football isn't a plaything for rich men looking for a quick profit. Football is football, and nothing more. Let's hear it.

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Well, it''s actually next week. This week is the Internationals.

I'll be there but Man City fans are usually very quiet, with it being the first game back since their take over and signing of Robinho i'm expecting them to be pretty loud.

I agree. Corluka is a fantastic player, he was magnificent against us last year. You don't realise quite how big he actually is on tv but he is an absolute beast. Breed them big in Croatia don't they?

As for Man City becoming another Chelsea, well they are worse. Chelsea were already a top 5 team who had won FA Cups and gone far in the Champions League long before Abramovich moved in. Also, Abramovich doesn't like paying over the odds for players. Last year Sevilla wanted £24 Million for Dani Alves, he could of payed that much easily but he felt he was being ripped off and stepped away from the deal. Same happened with Robinho this year, he thought he was worth £26 Million and wouldn't go a penny over. Man City appear to be willing to pay crazy money to get players and that's really dangerous. £140 Million for Ronaldo? £60 Million for Buffon? £80 Million each for Torres, Messi, Kaka, Fabregas?

You can say what you like about Abramovich but he rarely goes over the market value price for a player.

Well, it''s actually next week. This week is the Internationals.

I'll be there but Man City fans are usually very quiet, with it being the first game back since their take over and signing of Robinho i'm expecting them to be pretty loud.

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Yeah Corluka is a physical beast and one of the smartest, most civil players out there. He's not quick but doesn't need to be, great ball control for the big man as well, he will be missed :|

Oh by now I agree, Chelsea were decent before they got Abramovich. City was half decent, but the owner knows nothing about football and someone else should be in charge of the signings, it'd be much more beneficial for the team (and really, the state of the League in general) if he kept himself out of these things and simply paid the check for whoever we need in the future. Robinho was a good signing but overall those sums of money for other players are ridiculous, I heard he's willing to spend over 30 million on 18 different players. Horrible.

Have fun at the game, there also will be an added number of City fans attending matches from now on. I'm not in Manchester right now but from what I've heard from family and such there have been an increase in City jerseys running around since the new owner came in and Robinho was signed. It'll certainly be different. It'll also be a bit bigger with City taking Robinho from right under Chelsea's noses and also getting Wright-Phillips back as well. I'm guessing there would be a bit more tension if this were at Stamford Bridge but there are certainly a lot of things going on here.

Why wasn't Cole started? He should ALWAYS play when fit. He's the rare player that actually gives a rat's ass about playing for England. Also, he's the creative spark that England need when Gerrard isn't playing.

Plus also, it's going to be very interesting indeed to see how Capello's England stand up to their first proper test tomorrow against Croatia... now we'll see what we are getting for our 6 million quid eh?... and please God, he won't play Beckham who is now just so totally shot and off the pace my Granny could beat him in a sprint ... and if Downing's role could please be restricted to, I dunno, cheering from the bench, I think we'd all appreciate it :wink: ... and if Gerrard could ever play in his proper position... I'll stop now I think!

The fans have to be the worst around, they boo EVERYONE, especially their own. Whoever takes the job needs looking at mentally.

Curbishley pulled them away from relegation when they looked doomed, he then got them to 10th last year, and this year he helped them to their best start in years. What do the fans do? Boo him and make his position untenable. Crazy.

Curbishley pulled them away from relegation when they looked doomed, he then got them to 10th last year, and this year he helped them to their best start in years. What do the fans do? Boo him and make his position untenable. Crazy.

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Firstly, I think West Ham fans (rightly, I think, considering their traditions) have a certain expectation of stylish and dynamic football (think of the one and only Bobby Moore, and Martin Peters, and Trevor Brooking, and Alan Devonshire, and Paulo DeCanio, and the younger Frank Lampard, Joe Cole, etc, etc.) This contrasts with the more functional game that Curbishley seems to get his teams to play. And secondly, basically, I simply don't think they ever took to him or warmed to him. Undoubtedly though, they are a bloody hard lot to please.

Well, Curbishley was one of their own, he joined them as an apprentice after leaving school and played for them through the 1970's, you saw how they treated him.

As for Lampard and Cole, you do realise they both left because of the fans? Lampard had to put up with so much rubbish from them when he was a player there, he got abused by fans away from the ground and was pretty much on the verge of a breakdown from the constant abuse and taunts that he was only in the team because of his Dad and Uncle Harry.

Funny how he's turned out to be one of the greatest goal scoring midfielders in recent years, he could still be there now if it wasn't for all those idiotic fans and past players who used to make his life hell.

You do realise Frank Lampard Snr and the rest of the family, who were all West Ham fans through and through have turned their back on the club?

England were amazing. Croatia are one of the best teams in the world at the moment (although they were missing Eduardo and Kranjcar) but to destroy them at their own place was amazing.

Maybe Capello does know what he's doing afterall!

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Yeah, I wondered why Kranjcar wasn't playing. He must be out with an injury or something, if he was fully fit I have no idea why he wouldn't be playing in a match of this caliber, he's an amazingly gifted playmaker when on form.

As for Capello, you're right, maybe he does know what he's doing! That'd be a first for England, no?

Yeah, I wondered why Kranjcar wasn't playing. He must be out with an injury or something, if he was fully fit I have no idea why he wouldn't be playing in a match of this caliber, he's an amazingly gifted playmaker when on form.

As for Capello, you're right, maybe he does know what he's doing! That'd be a first for England, no?

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Yeah he's got an injury, although having said that, Rakitic who plays for Schalke and replaced him is also brilliant...

Someone rang up a phone in on tv last night and brought up how Italians and Spaniards don't really care about friendlies, but when it comes to the matches that matter, they always get it right. Looks like it could be true of our Italian

England were amazing. Croatia are one of the best teams in the world at the moment (although they were missing Eduardo and Kranjcar) but to destroy them at their own place was amazing.

Maybe Capello does know what he's doing afterall!

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Capello is the most boring coach ever. All of his teams have been a pain to watch. That been said, he's a guarantee of success. Nobody understands whet he's doing, but at the end he's always right. I'll be very surprised if England doesn't do well in South Africa (unless they meet Spain in the way )

Capello is the most boring coach ever. All of his teams have been a pain to watch. That been said, he's a guarantee of success. Nobody understands whet he's doing, but at the end he's always right. I'll be very surprised if England doesn't do well in South Africa (unless they meet Spain in the way )

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Yeah I agree, in the past they have been pretty dull.

Last night though England played some really pretty stuff! Walcott and Joe Cole down the wings, Rooney dropping off and threading balls through, Lampard was running things in midfield, Ashley Cole and Brown were great going forward.

God knows where the performance came from and it could well just be a one off but the 5th best team in the world couldn't get anywhere near us.

Ohhhhh man, what a weekend, I can hardly wait....
I never check this thread (or online sources) from the first game till Sunday night when I watch the highlight show (I like to see the highlights from games I didn't watch without knowing the result).
I like to wish everyone good luck, especially to Berbatov and also to Blackburn and Man City....

Capello is the most boring coach ever. All of his teams have been a pain to watch. That been said, he's a guarantee of success. Nobody understands whet he's doing, but at the end he's always right. I'll be very surprised if England doesn't do well in South Africa (unless they meet Spain in the way )

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TBH, I'm still not sure England's victory wasn't a bit of a fluke... that said, Walcott was lethal... and the funny thing is, he probably won't even play for Arsenal in their next match.

So, City's a big club, yeah? NOT. Aside form that redcard, Chelsea were pretty good. Not as awesome as they were against Pompey, but still pretty damn good. Lampard's goal was SICK. What a strike!

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:roll: Cause losing to a team that has owned us over the last 7 years and is supposed to win the league every year makes us a **** club now - makes perfect sense, can't get much more smug from a chelski. Chelsea looked better against Portsmouth because Portsmouth were playing like absolute crap, there is no denying that.

In fact, it was just all around sloppy in this game from City. Zabaleta looked like he didn't know what he was doing for the majority of the game, Robinho made some of the worst passes I've ever seen, Ireland had multiple oppourtunities within 15 metres of the box and did NOTHING with them along with the rest of the team doing little soft touches inside of the 20 metre mark instead of taking open shots. Hughes no doubt gave them a deserved chewing out after that display. Good job by Chelsea nonetheless, though happily Terry will be out next week against Man U.

:roll: Cause losing to a team that has owned us over the last 7 years and is supposed to win the league every year makes us a **** club now - makes perfect sense, can't get much more smug from a chelski. Chelsea looked better against Portsmouth because Portsmouth were playing like absolute crap, there is no denying that.

In fact, it was just all around sloppy in this game from City. Zabaleta looked like he didn't know what he was doing for the majority of the game, Robinho made some of the worst passes I've ever seen, Ireland had multiple oppourtunities within 15 metres of the box and did NOTHING with them along with the rest of the team doing little soft touches inside of the 20 metre mark instead of taking open shots. Hughes no doubt gave them a deserved chewing out after that display. Good job by Chelsea nonetheless, though happily Terry will be out next week against Man U.

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You're right, I think City were a bit sloppy. Zabaleta didn't look to good, but did show a few flashes of what he could be. I wasn't impressed with Kompany, but to be fair he didn't really get enough touches of the ball. I liked the look of Jo, I think he'll be quite good one day. SWP was pretty good too, he has some serious ability and can really do something great if City finds a system that plays to his stregnths. I did like the look of Ireland though. He didn't score but he worked really hard out there and he was pretty unlucky with his shooting, if he can control his shot a bit more he'll be one to watch. That's how I think City should try to play, IMO: a hard working side that has the ability to be creative through their Brazilians, but if the team can find a way to replicate the start of the match throughout an entire match, they'll be a force to reckon with. Your team may have lost today, but don't give up hope, a few rough edges need to be cleaned up and you'll be great. The future looks bright.

As for Chelsea, I saw a few things that looked a bit off; Drogba looks to have lost a step or two, but he's just coming back from a long injury layoff and will hopefully improve. Deco was, again, damn good, and showed us why he's the Premier League player of the month. I thought something was off a little with Anelka, although he did score. I feel that he could have done something a bit better, I just can't put my finger on it. He'll get better though. Ashley Cole looked good, he can be quite good when he gets forward and helps out in the attack. Mikel Obi was decent, but I still think Essien is way better and can do more in the attack than Obi can. Word going around is that we're going to sign someone to replace Essien for now, and then sell Essien in when he recovers (I hope that doesn't happen, Essien is awesome). Joe Cole looked good too, he works great with Deco. Hopefully they'll link up a ton this season for some great goals. Carvalho looked pretty good, aside from giving up that foul to Robinho he was very good, his goal was great. He finishes very well for a central defender. Alex was alright too, he seemed to be quite comfortable playing the role he did. All in all, a great performance, and once Big Phil evens out some edges, we'll be awesome.

^^ Spot on in all counts. I'm still steamed that we got rolled yet again by Chelsea but the future does look bright. Ireland, Jo, Robinho, Hart, Richards, Wright-Phillips is a very good starting 6 right there. In my opinion the transfer of Corluka to Spurs was a big mistake and will be hard to replace such a pivotal part of the team.

I'd like to see Elano back in the starting eleven as well as Petrov. Only week 4 but still some concerns with a few of the starters in my opinion.

Chelsea will be fine as usual, though obviously when Drogba comes back fully fit they will be even better, Anelka didn't look all that sharp out there and some of those finishes would be pretty simple for a healthy Drogba. Can't really see a weakness there when Ballack comes back and Drogba gets back to full health.

^^ Spot on in all counts. I'm still steamed that we got rolled yet again by Chelsea but the future does look bright. Ireland, Jo, Robinho, Hart, Richards, Wright-Phillips is a very good starting 6 right there. In my opinion the transfer of Corluka to Spurs was a big mistake and will be hard to replace such a pivotal part of the team.

I'd like to see Elano back in the starting eleven as well as Petrov. Only week 4 but still some concerns with a few of the starters in my opinion.

Chelsea will be fine as usual, though obviously when Drogba comes back fully fit they will be even better, Anelka didn't look all that sharp out there and some of those finishes would be pretty simple for a healthy Drogba. Can't really see a weakness there when Ballack comes back and Drogba gets back to full health.

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Totally agree. Corluka was a HUGE loss for you guys, there's no denying that. As for Elano and Martin Petrov, how would they fit into this side that Man City are running with now? Elano plays almost the same roll as Robinho, right (I'm probably wrong on this one, as I've seen them play together for Brazil)? Petrov would be a welcome addition to the squad, but from what I saw out of almost every Citizen on the pitch, they've all got the desire to improve and will almost certainly do so; there was real potential. Putting Petrov and/or Elano back in will change up City's gameplan, and even though they lost today, they could really go places if they stick to the same tactics, like I said earlier, if they fix up a few things they'll be golden. For Chelsea, we're not without our weaknesses. Finishing seems to be a slight problem, but from the looks of things this Franco Di Santo kid can help us out in that department, and Drogs can help out with that once he's fully fit. As for Ballack, I don't see how he'll fit into the side at the moment. Ballack is an attacking midfielder or a creative midfielder, and Lamps and Deco are in great form right now, so maybe he'd be subbed for one of them when the going gets tough? Maybe Big Phil will put him at holding mid instead of Obi, but that would stifle his ability to command a the flow of a match and do what he does best. Well, as they say, only time will tell. Let's just hope we can keep up this level of play.

Would like to hear ppls views of the match. Plus, specifically, how did Berbatov and Keane play and fit in with their respective teams?

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Didn't see much, but from what I heard Berbatov played alright. I did see his assist to Tevez, which IMO was a beautiful pass. I guess he didn't do all he could have though, but give him time, he'll get better. Keane looked good, but Liverpool have looked very different without Torres upfront so only time will tell how he adjusts to having Torres up alongside him. Once again, only time will tell.

Well, the place was packed! But the Man City fans didn't make any noise at all

Zabaleta was awful! It was Shaun Wright-Phillips doing all the defending, Zabaleta was anonymous.

From where I was sitting.. noway was it a free kick that Robinho scored from, Anelka should of probably had a penalty, and Terry's foul was only a yellow.

Lampard was amazing as usual, you see him put in performances like that and then see what Gerrard does.. there's just no comparison.

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Setenta did a replay of the Robinho goal, and it hit one of our players (I think it was Terry, not sure though, I think I'm wrong, but it was a Chelsea player). Terry's foul didn't warrant a red, IMO, but definitely a cardable offense. Hopefully the appeal goes alright and he'll be available against United. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Anelka should have had a penalty, you're right, the ref today wasn't at his best, that's for sure. The commentators on ESPN Star Sports were mocking the ref for almost the entire second half because he was off the mark constantly. Lamps was great, especially compared to Gerrard today, he was off it a good deal today, IMO. You're totally correct on the comparison, Lampard is in great form right now and Gerrard can't touch him. Would be nice if Capello shows that in his next selection.

I saw a few small things wrong with Chelsea today (I go over this in detail in my earlier post) but, hey, we got 3 points playing the game the right way. And at the end of the day, that's all that matters, and nothing more.

Speaking of playing the game the right way, did anyone see Arsenal mop the floor with Blackburn this afternoon? Rovers, IMHO were good in the first half but Ade as well as the rest of Arsenal just shifted up a few gears around the 40th minute and never looked back. Should have been atleast 7 goals for Arsenal even though, in the first half, they just couldn't finish, even with all the opportunities Rovers gifted them. If they can improve on their finishing, especially that of Robin van Persie, they're going to be dangerous. REALLY dangerous.

Lemme guess: you and SempreSami know the lyrics to the RANGERS' "Famine Song" by heart.

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No, I don't think so. :-|.

See, The biggest problem is that Rangers are depicted through-out the world as being Sectarian Scum. People seem to forget that the Celtic fans are just as bad. The worst abuse I've *ever* heard was when I was standing as part of a small minority of Rangers fans after a Rangers Old Firm Victory. Their were about 30 rangers fans waiting as the thousands of Celtic fans were leaving the stadium. Horrific sectarian abuse being shouted at us (Aswell as a few items being thrown: the odd bottle,flags,food...you name it)

However, due to the sheer volume of Celtic fans...the police were physically unable to do anything preventative. All they could do is warn the Rangers fans "Don't do ANYTHING that could incite hatred/anger. Hide scarfs, keep your face down, try hide shirts etc."

Yet, It's always Rangers fans who are depicted as "scum" I've never seen a sign like this (Picture enclosed lower down) at Ibrox, If one ever went up their would be a mass outrage..Not at Celtic park...
"Scotlands Shame"

For Clarification.This picture was taken by my best friend (A season ticket holder at Parkhead)

See, The biggest problem is that Rangers are depicted through-out the world as being Sectarian Scum. People seem to forget that the Celtic fans are just as bad. The worst abuse I've *ever* heard was when I was standing as part of a small minority of Rangers fans after a Rangers Old Firm Victory. Their were about 30 rangers fans waiting as the thousands of Celtic fans were leaving the stadium. Horrific sectarian abuse being shouted at us (Aswell as a few items being thrown: the odd bottle,flags,food...you name it)

However, due to the sheer volume of Celtic fans...the police were physically unable to do anything preventative. All they could do is warn the Rangers fans "Don't do ANYTHING that could incite hatred/anger. Hide scarfs, keep your face down, try hide shirts etc."

Yet, It's always Rangers fans who are depicted as "scum" I've never seen a sign like this (Picture enclosed lower down) at Ibrox, If one ever went up their would be a mass outrage..Not at Celtic park...
"Scotlands Shame"

For Clarification.This picture was taken by my best friend (A season ticket holder at Parkhead)

Still, Follow Follow and Big Jock Knew!

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Yeah, I've always found that to be quite weird, how the Celtic supporters often get a free pass when it comes to these sort of things. The Rangers often get the short end of the stick in these situations as well. But at the end of the day, you're top of the league and they aren't. And that's all that matters.

Speaking of results, did anyone see Spurs-Villa? I was VERY impressed with Villa in the first half, they played an excellent attacking game. They allowed Spurs to get back into it a bit towards the end, but all in all a good result for Villa. You got to feel bad for the Spurs fans though, 4 games and only 1 point, and to top it off, bottom of the league?! What's going on? In my opinion, there's just too many expectations after yet another summer of brilliant signings. Last year it was the same thing, and this year it looks as if it's going to be more of the same, just worse. Shame too, on paper they've got a really strong team. And now Modric is out (even though Spurs looked a bit better without him), it's a real problem. Ross, how do you think your boys will fare for the rest of the season? I can't see them breaking into the top 5 or 6. The same goes for New Castle, what a mess!

I see Mourinho, Quaresma and Inter won their first match of the season earlier today

R.

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Solid performance from Inter, I don't know how many of you watched it but Muntari was sent off in the the first half and Inter played a majority with 10 men, also, Muntarias straight red was soft, yellow at the most. Quaresma was maybe a bit lucky with his goal, took a slight deflection off Mascara and then the own goal by Catania. Don't be fooled though by just the statistics, Inter were in complete control throughout the match and were never under that much of a threat. Maicon was fantastic, man of the match, he played a great game including a run that beat many of the oppositions players before narrowly missing the target. FORZA INTER!

As to the talk of Rangers and celtic fans, I want to being up two dates: May 21, 2003 and 14 May, 2008. But first, I have nothing to do with scottish football and don't care about any results of any team except hearts, who I follow with barely any interest.

54,000 celtic fans were in Sevilla, they recieved an official FIFA award as well as a UEFA award for the way that they behaved.
Rangers fans arrive in in Manchester, after the match a Russian (the Russians were believed to be the ones who would cause trouble) was attacked and stabbed, as well as mass rioting in the streets of manchester which included police being attacked and locals cars and streets being defaced and theres even a bbc video of fans trying to set a car on fire.

As to the talk of Rangers and celtic fans, I want to being up two dates: May 21, 2003 and 14 May, 2008. But first, I have nothing to do with scottish football and don't care about any results of any team except hearts, who I follow with barely any interest.

54,000 celtic fans were in Sevilla, they recieved an official FIFA award as well as a UEFA award for the way that they behaved.
Rangers fans arrive in in Manchester, after the match a Russian (the Russians were believed to be the ones who would cause trouble) was attacked and stabbed, as well as mass rioting in the streets of manchester which included police being attacked and locals cars and streets being defaced and theres even a bbc video of fans trying to set a car on fire.