i work at a fine dining restaurant, i think the waiters get 16$ + tips, im a food prep/dishwasher guy and get 10.25$ an hour but with the tip share its $11.50 /hour lol, just realized how gay that is, made more landscaping

You'll get bad service if you pay them minimum wage. To get decent service they'd have to be receiving at least $12/hr(number I pulled out of my ass, but definitely a few bucks more than min wage) in which case the restaurant will have to raise food prices accordingly.

if they raise the food prices too much they will lose customers.. sure it'll go up but i doubt itd be a 15% increase from what it is now.

They'll only lose the customers who didn't tip before since you will be paying about the same amount of money to eat out.

how about do your fukin job or get fired? just like every normal job

Not every industry is the same. If you don't like it you can stay home and cook.

You'd be firing everyone. No one is going to do the work of the waiter for minimum wage with no tips. Tipping is better for restaurants and waiters. Restaurants don't have to pay a high wage for employees during slow hours and employees make more than min wage with tips.

You'll get bad service if you pay them minimum wage. To get decent service they'd have to be receiving at least $12/hr(number I pulled out of my ass, but definitely a few bucks more than min wage) in which case the restaurant will have to raise food prices accordingly.

They'll only lose the customers who didn't tip before since you will be paying about the same amount of money to eat out.

Not every industry is the same. If you don't like it you can stay home and cook.

it is the same

no different than a job at home depot or best buy where it revolves around helping the customer

LOL if you can't afford to tip you probably shouldn't be eating out. Tipping is customary in this country, just deal with it. I usually tip 5-6 bucks for a $25 tab. Unless the waitress is pretty damn fine and flirty i'll tip a little more.

**** that. people who work at autozone have far more knowledge about their field, and work a lot harder, and they get minimum wage.

it really pisses me off that waiters are entitle to money they dont deserve, for doing a mindless job.

This. "Herp derp you want good service gotta tip well"... lol good service? You bring me drinks, my food, and ask me if i want a refill. What is exceptional about this? Its a fuking job and to be honest a fuking robot could probably dop it if restaraunts wanted them too.

lol at everyone not being okay with tipping. sorry it's evolved that way guys.

why do doctor's make a shiitload? what about lawyers? because people will PAY it.

on a smaller scale, that's why waiters require a good tip for good service. if you dont like it, do something about it. like moving somewhere else. lawl. phuck everyone that doesnt tip. if you don't, then you've never been a waiter. since waiting tables i always tip huge.

My friend is a bartender and in Canada minimum wage for him is $8 bucks and he always complains about how much he makes.

My response is that a vending machine could do his job.

Originally Posted by FlexLex

This. "Herp derp you want good service gotta tip well"... lol good service? You bring me drinks, my food, and ask me if i want a refill. What is exceptional about this? Its a fuking job and to be honest a fuking robot could probably dop it if restaraunts wanted them too.

lol at everyone not being okay with tipping. sorry it's evolved that way guys.

why do doctor's make a shiitload? what about lawyers? because people will PAY it.

on a smaller scale, that's why waiters require a good tip for good service. if you dont like it, do something about it. like moving somewhere else. lawl. phuck everyone that doesnt tip. if you don't, then you've never been a waiter. since waiting tables i always tip huge.

lol at everyone not being okay with tipping. sorry it's evolved that way guys.

why do doctor's make a shiitload? what about lawyers? because people will PAY it.

on a smaller scale, that's why waiters require a good tip for good service. if you dont like it, do something about it. like moving somewhere else. lawl. phuck everyone that doesnt tip. if you don't, then you've never been a waiter. since waiting tables i always tip huge.

I am inclined to agree with OP. Worked as a server and in kitchens on the line. Line workers work much harder, get paid like **** and the servers look down on them.. When I was a server everyone else was constantly bitching about how they only made 100-200$ that night in tips, I was just like STFU. For realz even bussers work harder than the servers. Not even all of then even communicate well with the customers, they act like pricks and still bitch about how they only got a 10% tip. Some of those ***gots even bitch about getting like 13% on a 500$ bill, whining about how it is not the standard 15%. I used to even say, "come on bro you expect people to give out another 60$ on top of taxes". They reply with stupid **** like "if you can't afford that you shouldn't be eating here". Servers think they are better than the rest of the staff, because they have been chosen for such a prestigous position and are allowed to bring people their meals and take orders like ****ing bitches.

edit: to people who say that pay is required for their "heavy workload". Look at the ****ing dishwahsers. They are usually immigrants or young highschool kids who are stuck in a hot dish pit all day doing dishes LITERALLY nonstop. Usually having to stay well after close finishing up the dishes that wern't priority/used for cooking. They get paid minimum wage, work in **** conditions and usually ruin thier hands from chemicals/water exposure. Yet their is STILL always people willing to be a dish washer.