Is it?

joopen wrote:It makes sense because that is what non-criminals do. They buy things that they use, even if it is only for one specific use. The bolded part is your problem. You are being selfish. You don't care about the impact on the rest of the paying customers. The bottles are not designed to leave the store. Like I said, go ask the local store manager. If they say yea go ahead then come back and tell us we are all wrong.

they must have a ton of empty bottles in the back.

Or they have a few small bottles in the back but mostly buy the hot sauce in bulk containers and use the bulk to fill up the glass jars to save cost?

itissteeltime wrote:To make sure we're on the same page. Your issue is with the bottle itself, not whats inside the bottle? If that's the case, I agree. I'm not taking any more or less sauce than I would if I emptied it into a plastic cup, which they allow you to do.

My issue is with the bottle of hot sauce's intended use. I would imagine it is intended that it physically stays in the store.

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joopen wrote:It makes sense because that is what non-criminals do. They buy things that they use, even if it is only for one specific use. The bolded part is your problem. You are being selfish. You don't care about the impact on the rest of the paying customers. The bottles are not designed to leave the store. Like I said, go ask the local store manager. If they say yea go ahead then come back and tell us we are all wrong.

they must have a ton of empty bottles in the back.

Or they have a few small bottles in the back but mostly buy the hot sauce in bulk containers and use the bulk to fill up the glass jars to save cost?

I think it's a health code violation to refill bottles like that. I could be wrong though.

joopen wrote:It makes sense because that is what non-criminals do. They buy things that they use, even if it is only for one specific use. The bolded part is your problem. You are being selfish. You don't care about the impact on the rest of the paying customers. The bottles are not designed to leave the store. Like I said, go ask the local store manager. If they say yea go ahead then come back and tell us we are all wrong.

they must have a ton of empty bottles in the back.

Or they have a few small bottles in the back but mostly buy the hot sauce in bulk containers and use the bulk to fill up the glass jars to save cost?

Every time I go there I see several bottles with fresh plastic on the top, so I don't know that they refill them.

joopen wrote:It makes sense because that is what non-criminals do. They buy things that they use, even if it is only for one specific use. The bolded part is your problem. You are being selfish. You don't care about the impact on the rest of the paying customers. The bottles are not designed to leave the store. Like I said, go ask the local store manager. If they say yea go ahead then come back and tell us we are all wrong.

they must have a ton of empty bottles in the back.

Or they have a few small bottles in the back but mostly buy the hot sauce in bulk containers and use the bulk to fill up the glass jars to save cost?

I think it's a health code violation to refill bottles like that. I could be wrong though.

I can't imagine it is. They re-use katchup, salt and pepper, ect all the time.

The reason I brought this up, is it came up at happy hour last night at this new bar near me, our table was evenly split. We actually ended up asking the waitress what she thought. She said if we purchased something to go, she wouldnt have a problem with us taking what is left in the bottle (it was about 1/4 full).

The reason I brought this up, is it came up at happy hour last night at this new bar near me, our table was evenly split. We actually ended up asking the waitress what she thought. She said if we purchased something to go, she wouldnt have a problem with us taking what is left in the bottle (it was about 1/4 full).

i dont think the waitress is the one that should be clarifying the issue.

The reason I brought this up, is it came up at happy hour last night at this new bar near me, our table was evenly split. We actually ended up asking the waitress what she thought. She said if we purchased something to go, she wouldnt have a problem with us taking what is left in the bottle (it was about 1/4 full).

Servers have little stake in the company and often side against the company for which they work. Therefore I wouldn't value their opinion on the matter and I certainly don't think they're objective.

They see you stealing that bottle of hot sauce as a way of sticking it to the man, one bottle of hot sauce at a time.

Agree that the waitress is not the determining person, but thats all I've got so far.

Factorial wrote:How could this be described as anything but stealing?

If we're talking about the bottle, then yes I agree. The sauce itself I dont think is stealing at all. As mentioned before, as long as you're not going in there and stocking up on the sauce to use in the future. If your purpose is to use it on the item you just purchased, how could this be stealing?

So where's the line? I'm allowed to take hot sauce packets from taco bell, but if I take a bottle of Cholula I'm a criminal. What if the bottle was made of plastic? would that be ok? Is glassware the cut off?

Azkar wrote:So where's the line? I'm allowed to take hot sauce packets from taco bell, but if I take a bottle of Cholula I'm a criminal. What if the bottle was made of plastic? would that be ok? Is glassware the cut off?

If you take anything out of the restaurant then that is stealing. The only exception would be for takeout and even then if you purposely take more than you know you will use with your takeout then that is stealing.

Cheap people really annoy me, I'm not saying the OP is cheap. The professor withthe hand sanitizer story, and stuff like that drives me absolutely crazy and I don't know why.If I ever wanted to just punch someone in the face it's these type of people, irrational? you bet!

Azkar wrote:So where's the line? I'm allowed to take hot sauce packets from taco bell, but if I take a bottle of Cholula I'm a criminal. What if the bottle was made of plastic? would that be ok? Is glassware the cut off?

If you take anything out of the restaurant then that is stealing. The only exception would be for takeout and even then if you purposely take more than you know you will use with your takeout then that is stealing.

Azkar wrote:So where's the line? I'm allowed to take hot sauce packets from taco bell, but if I take a bottle of Cholula I'm a criminal. What if the bottle was made of plastic? would that be ok? Is glassware the cut off?

If you take anything out of the restaurant then that is stealing. The only exception would be for takeout and even then if you purposely take more than you know you will use with your takeout then that is stealing.

So taco bell packets are not ok to take?

Of course we're only talking about take out. I'm not talking about walking into a chipotle, picking up sauce, and leaving. I'm talking about buying a burrito, and taking the same sauce I would use in the store, but using it outside of the store.

Are you using all of those packets in the Taco Bell order that you are going to be eating on that very occasion? If not, yes, that is stealing. Every one of those packets should be consumed in that sitting