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Re: Lineout over after uncontested maul

Originally Posted by RobLev

The team with the ball.

Why ?

Its open play,theres nothing to stop the opposition from tackling the ball carrier.

You could have a bizarre situation where the attacking team coach has drilled it into his team not to send it to the back until they engage and to create a maul, whereas the defending coach has drilled it into his team not to engage and create a maul,

Courage is knowing what lies on the other side and still opening the door !

Re: Lineout over after uncontested maul

Originally Posted by Shelflife

Why ?

Its open play,theres nothing to stop the opposition from tackling the ball carrier.

You could have a bizarre situation where the attacking team coach has drilled it into his team not to send it to the back until they engage and to create a maul, whereas the defending coach has drilled it into his team not to engage and create a maul,

as a referee : smile and wait and see what happens. it couldn't last for long...

Re: Lineout over after uncontested maul

Hang on, is there a consensus that handing the ball back to another bound player ends the lineout? It wouldn't signal the end if the lineout was contested (as an example we would hold the backs lines back at their 10 metre line).

Re: Lineout over after uncontested maul

Originally Posted by Blackberry

Hang on, is there a consensus that handing the ball back to another bound player ends the lineout? It wouldn't signal the end if the lineout was contested (as an example we would hold the backs lines back at their 10 metre line).

if there is a maul -- then lineout isn't ended until maul moves beyond LoT

Re: Lineout over after uncontested maul

Because they've got the ball. They're the only ones that can do anything with the ball.

Its open play,theres nothing to stop the opposition from tackling the ball carrier.

You could have a bizarre situation where the attacking team coach has drilled it into his team not to send it to the back until they engage and to create a maul, whereas the defending coach has drilled it into his team not to engage and create a maul,

You could; but if it's a choice as to whom to penalise for time-wasting - penalise the team with the ball who are doing nothing with it. See it as an incentive to positive rugby...

Re: Lineout over after uncontested maul

This is not wasting time. If neither team wants to break the stalemate then whistle and restart with a scrum to the team in possession.

If you gave a warning the "we're going to a scrum in 5 seconds" that may break the stalemate.

But this isn't a penalty situation as neither team is offending.

I wouldn't first look to call time wasting but if it came down to it because it's the only shoe that fit in the situation then why not. Couldn't it be argued as time wasting as much as if the ball carrier in open play breaks the defensive line, out runs the defenders who then give up on the chase, and the ball carrier just stands idle in the in goal instead of grounding the ball?

I like the ideology that the team in possession of the ball is first responsible to play the ball.