For what this was I enjoyed the bits of their first. Al Fredo/ Al Fresco was actually a really good concept, but Arcane just overwrote it. Genuinely could have been a huge bar with a better writer. Caustic was pretty entertaining.

Neither had anything in the second, but Arcane had a de feet bar and a round of gun bars, lol: autoloss. That shove from Caustic was hilarious though. Ganik and Gully were just like yeah he shoved him, whatever let's just get this shit over with.

Arcane is doing better, but he's still rapping like it was 2009. That stretched out scheme style was hot then.
The best part of Caustic's round was that comment on what Arcane looks like under his hat, lol. The rest, errmmm, errrr, happened...

Caustic won, but as usual it feels like eating barely reheated leftovers than a real meal.

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and emancee is a faggot

Finally, after years of abuse, Manik snaps and, just like in the Illmac/ Saurus battle, unleashes some of the angriest texting ever.

The crowd is just weird, it's an odd setting. That's how all Toronto events feel to me coming off the screen. But both were at a huge disadvantage because this battle should have happened years ago.

I am afraid to go back and rewatch an old Arcane battle because I could have sworn I used to enjoy him but I wasn't a fan of this version at all. But it might also just be that KOTD has been chasing being Diet Smack and lost the vibe they had that made guys like Arcane entertaining. I gotta think if someone like PoRich came back and battled it would suck too, and I used to be super entertained by that guy.

Caustic could have delivered that "hand that feeds you" line much better. Should have been the bar of the battle, good concept.

KOTD should do more battles revolving around melodramatic rivalries. it's what the scene needs and a good look for everyone involved. nothing embarrassing happened in this battle. this is what battle rap should be. caustic 3-0, debatably 2-1.

KOTD should do more battles revolving around melodramatic rivalries. it's what the scene needs and a good look for everyone involved.

Exactly. Been saying this forever. For all these people who claimed that they didn’t want this battle to happen/ thought it was trash, it sure does have more people talking about it than any other kotd battle as of recently...

Just a shame that y’all were lying about wanting to see this for so long, because it let kotd and the rappers off the hook for years. This battle would’ve been way better if people would’ve pressured them to put it on years ago instead of pretending they weren’t interested

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honestly i dont even watch battles , i listen to the audio while staring into the mirror at my own reactions

Just a shame that y’all were lying about wanting to see this for so long, because it let kotd and the rappers off the hook for years. This battle would’ve been way better if people would’ve pressured them to put it on years ago instead of pretending they weren’t interested

Where are you getting this from? Pretty much every time Caustic was announced on a KOTD Blackout card the overall opinion was (harshly IMO) that it was either Arcane or they weren't interested.

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and emancee is a faggot

Finally, after years of abuse, Manik snaps and, just like in the Illmac/ Saurus battle, unleashes some of the angriest texting ever.

Exactly. Been saying this forever. For all these people who claimed that they didn’t want this battle to happen/ thought it was trash, it sure does have more people talking about it than any other kotd battle as of recently...

Just a shame that y’all were lying about wanting to see this for so long, because it let kotd and the rappers off the hook for years. This battle would’ve been way better if people would’ve pressured them to put it on years ago instead of pretending they weren’t interested

1000% this, the fact that it'd taken sooooooo long to happen and they both (particularly Arcane) were acting like it happened yesterday made them look like total nerdbirds.

+ Arcane said he was 'lyrical' something, it was fucking awful but I can't bring myself to go back and find it.

Ya, so I watched the battle, and the crowd was super wack, organic tried to play arcane by cutting him off and destroying his momentum in the first. Caustic had a couple angles, but he’s just not as good of a writer or rapper as arcane is, to me. His voice sounds crazy, and he tries very hard to the point of being obnoxious.

Side note: let caustic complain that arcane is going too long. That’s his prerogative. Organic doesn’t need to stop it. People paid to see the battle — caustic GOT PAID to battle. Why they tryna short change the people who paid money for it? To appease the people that they paid instead of the people that paid??? Makes zero sense to me.

Anyway, arcane was had a lot of decent stuff, some bad stuff tbf, but also some shit that IF it was said by someone else that people “like” that wouldve shaken the room (albeit, in a room that was much better and had actual battle rap fans). The energy was just bad overall, and I’m not sure who to blame that on.

Better late than never I guess, but the truth is, battle rap has evolved beyond both these dudes to where they can’t compete in today’s era

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honestly i dont even watch battles , i listen to the audio while staring into the mirror at my own reactions

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