"Beam me up Scotty!" - Mandela Effect

As someone who is easily open minded and daft enough to believe this sort of thing, what I really can't understand is that ME believers cannot see how
language and the human brain work naturally to morph our memories of things like this and the Luke I am your father line, with no supernatural
intervention whatsoever needed. It's a simple case of the original quote making no sense out of context (No I am your father) so to quote it in a
casual conversation or reference our societal memory of the quote, it must be deliberately altered to something that gets the gist across without
having to reenact the entire scene line by line (Luke I am your father). Changing No to Luke in a conversational context simply makes it such quicker
to get your point across.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: elliotmtl
But that would mean you're just like everybody else.
It would mean that you're not from another world. It would mean you're not really a prince who was stolen at birth.

The ironic thing is, I actually do believe I'm from another world. Not my human self, which is quite boring and insignificant, just my "soul" as it
were. However, I am fully aware I might hilariously wrong merely on souls existing in the first place, and believing this does not in any way require
me to believe in the insane bad-TV-plot idea that a few simplistic inaccuracies and dualities in my memory are due to some kind of multiversity
timeline effery, and not just my own brain betraying me like it does on a daily basis anyway.

This whole Mandela Effect thing is strange. I don't really buy into it, but I feel there's something weird going on, it can't be all just faulty
memory. Anyway, here's something that may help clarifying some of the cases:

So why don't they get 100% on school exams all the time? And why can't they repeat exactly several complex sentences that they've just read?

I never said that everyone who claims to experience the ME should have some kind of freakish genius memory. I think it's strange that so many people
remember the same things in the same wrong way. Something does not sound right about all this stuff.

I think its in the same mental hiccup as people calling our favorite Vulcan, Dr Spock not Mister. I expect it grew from some skit on something like
Saterday Night Live. Watched TOS, TNG, DS9, Voyager [rewatching again now lol] Enterprise [cough] end to end. Kirk never said the words "Beam me up
scotty" in my timeline lol. I guess he could have in the mirror universe lol.

So why don't they get 100% on school exams all the time? And why can't they repeat exactly several complex sentences that they've just read?

I never said that everyone who claims to experience the ME should have some kind of freakish genius memory. I think it's strange that so many people
remember the same things in the same wrong way. Something does not sound right about all this stuff.

People remember the same things in the same wrong way for plenty of perfectly logical reasons:
1) They're all human, so they all have human brains, which are subject to the same basic physiological processes when it comes to perceiving, storing,
retaining and recalling information. Their brains take the same shortcuts. We also tend to dream in the same archetypes.
2) They experience the same cultural references which reinforce the same wrong memories. "Beam me up Scotty" and "Luke I am your father" are perfect
examples. With regard to Berenstein, we all know people with the last name stein, but how many people know others with the last name Stain?

Another good example is "Play it again, Sam", which is a mis-remembered/mis-quoted line from the film Casablanca.

Humphrey Bogart's character never said that line in the film (although he said something close), but the idea that he did say that had become part of
popular culture, possibly bolstered by a popular 1960s Broadway play and 1970s film named Play it Again Sam.

So, yeah -- people are likely to all remember the same misquote because popular culture or mass media had used the misquote. I bet most people who
think it's "Play it again, Sam" never saw Casablanca, and many of the people who think it's "Luke, am your father" never saw The Empire
Strikes Back.

Most are simply remembering and repeating the misquotes from mass media. Even if they did see the original source material, their memories may have
since been changed by the mass media and popular culture misquotes.

As for "___stein" versus "___stain":
Yeah, it's quite obvious that many of the people who would hear the name of the author of those books, or only casually look at the name on the books,
would assume it to be "stein" because it is an much much more common ending for a name than is "stain".

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I admitted to never watching Star Trek though. Despite all the other Mandela stuff I found this interesting. It would be totally different if I
watched the series and was confident I saw it happen.

Even if you did watch the series, there has been enough pop culture and media references to "Beam Me Up Scotty" over the years since the series ended
that your memory may have been affected by those after-the-fact references.

And all it takes for pop culture or media to latch onto a misquote is to have that misquote appear once somewhere in one popular TV show, movie or
other outlet. That's probably the case with the "Play it again, Sam" misquote. The misquote occurs once in a mass pop-culture outlet, and then
everyone repeats the misquote as if it is the actual quote.

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