In years past there have been great drum circles around the man and Temple after it's burned, recently there have been times where sound vehicles are blasting away that would drowned the sound of the drums completely. I love the music at the burn, but sure would love to find some tribal drumming going on. How could this come about?Suggestions?- Solutions?

Tomaso wrote:In years past there have been great drum circles around the man and Temple after it's burned, recently there have been times where sound vehicles are blasting away that would drowned the sound of the drums completely. I love the music at the burn, but sure would love to find some tribal drumming going on. How could this come about?Suggestions?- Solutions?

To find some unique nooks, try to not be attracted to the bright and big and shiny. There is a whole city ring out there and a lot of us (myself included) get distracted by the big art and playa and Man and Temple and (insert coolest project of the year).

The city has so much to offer in camp land, especially outer rings, in terms of getting away from the heart throbs of the heart of the city.

I betcha there are some really good uninterrupted drum circles down at the foot...or possibly the earlobe

This year, due to past problems, drum circles are only being allowed around the sound camps and in deep playa. This may be an inconvenience for some but will ultimately solve many longstanding problems with the sound which can carry incredibly long distances. Last year, two burners who refused to moderate their playing (they'd been playing for 28 hours nearly continuously) ended up being escorted to the gate after ignoring multiple requests from the rangers to give their neighbors a rest.

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Foxfur wrote:This year, due to past problems, drum circles are only being allowed around the sound camps and in deep playa. This may be an inconvenience for some but will ultimately solve many longstanding problems with the sound which can carry incredibly long distances. Last year, two burners who refused to moderate their playing (they'd been playing for 28 hours nearly continuously) ended up being escorted to the gate after ignoring multiple requests from the rangers to give their neighbors a rest.

Is this for real? I thought that as long as sound is under 300 watts and is under 90 dbs at 20 feet, anything goes. They have an official sound time limit?

Foxfur wrote:This year, due to past problems, drum circles are only being allowed around the sound camps and in deep playa. This may be an inconvenience for some but will ultimately solve many longstanding problems with the sound which can carry incredibly long distances. Last year, two burners who refused to moderate their playing (they'd been playing for 28 hours nearly continuously) ended up being escorted to the gate after ignoring multiple requests from the rangers to give their neighbors a rest.

Is this for real? I thought that as long as sound is under 300 watts and is under 90 dbs at 20 feet, anything goes. They have an official sound time limit?

Not all situations are covered by sound policies. That's why the citizens of Black Rock City are empowered with the Ten Principles. Neighbors should be holding the principle of Radical Inclusion, right up until people are obviously infringing on principles like Community and Civic Responsibility.

Often Rangers are brought into the mix to assist in negotiations between neighboring camps and once an agreement is reached, failure to hold to that agreement is a violation of Civic Responsibility. At that point the Rangers are empowered to use the few sanctions they have against participants, including eviction for grievous behavior after making an agreement. Certainly a 28-hour drum circle would have gone through some requests for downtime and a negotiated period for things like allowing the neighbors to sleep. Failure to hold to that agreement (especially if you agree to stop, but then start up again after the Rangers leave) obviously has consequences.

Amplified sound is such a frequent source of this sort of strife that measurable rules were instituted to essentially "pre-negotiate" before you even met your neighbors. Drum circles and other sources of noise are harder to give fixed metrics for, but must still abide by the social compact of the Ten Principles.

Take the community bikes for example. Hiding them in your theme camp is a failure to meet the Ten Principles. Putting a bike lock on one can potentially skip the whole "rangering" moment and jump straight to a theft complaint issued to the Sheriffs. (Did you know that community bikes actually all have the same "on-paper" owner? This allows theft complaints to be issued, where needed.) There is a long list of things that have no official policies that still run similar to the Sound Policy or rules for Community Bikes which might involve community enforcement or ranger action.

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