enfps, great people, operate on a different wavelength, another animal altogether, and as such, there's no real need to base your growth/potential on patterns that will not jive with your latest series of phases.

2) Don't assume intps disregard others simply because they don't act as you'd expect them or blatantly forget semicolons. whether e1, 4, 5, 6 or 9, give em a chance. a few of my so/sp e56 frirnds let the years slip away, no doubt, but can expressing surprising depth of concern. Often there's a grabbag of phone salespeople at target if you need a sampling and if you're lucky you'll run into a socionics ni-subtype whose speech doesn't zip you up around the neck.

Do what you like, Scott N Denver. Take notes. Spend time with the crows and me. Take an active part in your community. Live where you're happy. Feel the wind beneath your outstretched wings.

your post confuses me. I am not a computer scientist. I never have been. I never want to be. I have programmed computers before, and quite frankly I did not find it enjoyable or something that I wished to keep doing. I do like math though.

Perhaps I was not adequately clear before, I am not some sort of "tortured" INFP going "oh woe is me!"

I have known a number of ENFP's, and quite frankly I see INFP's and ENFP's as being VERY similar, but maybe I'm just attracted to ENFP's that have very well developed Fi?

I've known many INTP's in my time, and many of them were quite open and frank about their general lack of regard for time, their "very low" desire for social interaction, their obliviousness to other people and how their are doing, etc.

Again, I am not some depressed "woe is me and my horrible life" INFP. I was, however, trying to offer encouragement and suggestions to INFP's who might see themselves that way.

I think the hardest thing about being an INFP is the paralyzing emotional intensity.
I don't think any other type allows himself to feel as much pain or hurt, loss or loneliness as an INFP does. An INFP can see life as it should be, not just for himself, but for everyone. He dreams of a perfect world and every encounter with reality is like having a dull knife stabbed in him and slowly twisted.

Nobody suffers like I do
Nobody else, oh no
Nobody suffers like I do
Nobody else but you

Originally Posted by Ivy

Gosh, the world looks so small from up here on my high horse of menstruation.

your post confuses me. I am not a computer scientist. I never have been. I never want to be. I have programmed computers before, and quite frankly I did not find it enjoyable or something that I wished to keep doing. I do like math though.

Perhaps I was not adequately clear before, I am not some sort of "tortured" INFP going "oh woe is me!"

I have known a number of ENFP's, and quite frankly I see INFP's and ENFP's as being VERY similar, but maybe I'm just attracted to ENFP's that have very well developed Fi?

I've known many INTP's in my time, and many of them were quite open and frank about their general lack of regard for time, their "very low" desire for social interaction, their obliviousness to other people and how their are doing, etc.

Again, I am not some depressed "woe is me and my horrible life" INFP. I was, however, trying to offer encouragement and suggestions to INFP's who might see themselves that way.

I don't address each and every cliche-ridden post on typec so when I quote, it isn't with any intent of carrying out a constructive exchange, but more like, "I'm capable of randomly clicking on this button that happens to say 'reply with quote.'" Are you a student of linguistics, Scott N Denver?

I don't address each and every cliche-ridden post on typec so when I quote, it isn't with any intent of carrying out a constructive exchange, but more like, "I'm capable of randomly clicking on this button that happens to say 'reply with quote.'" Are you a student of linguistics, Scott N Denver?

Scott N Denver, I'd like to know how you distinguish one day from the next. Bernays ever? Mitsubishi cars or tvs? Why does the lower middle class white man buy a german for dummies textbook in america. Know how to fillet a fish? How young will you be in 25 years?

I usually express love through physical contact like a hug occasionally, but this is only if I really love this person (being not quite an adult my teddy bears usually get the brunt of this, though I like to hug my parents. I haven't really had any boyfriends, so I couldn't say anything about romantic love.) The most common way I express love is through secret favors. Like I'll wash my sister's dishes or wash all the towels or clean my younger sister's side of the room or do the dirty job that no one wants to do. I like to do these because I like to see loved ones happily surprised. Another way I express love is by saying nothing. Specifically, if one of my sisters is really getting on my nerves by humming the same annoying tune over and over, I'll look the other way because I love them and I don't want to fight over something useless. I'm not sure if this is universal of all INFPs, it's just what I usually do.

I do this too. I never was close to my ESTJ older sister, but after she left from a visit I realized that I really did miss her. Also, I think almost daily of a little girl who died when I was in middle school (not obsessively, I just get reminded of her.) I didn't know her very well, in fact I think I was inclined to not like her, but I miss her because I think that if I had tried harder we could have been better friends than most of my current friends are with me. I miss a lot of people I didn't know well from when I moved, but I think it's more me missing the possibility of what could have been. It does sound like a thing INFPs would do.

Aw, I'm sorry to hear about that. Yeah, missing the possibility of what could have been sounds right for me.
By the way, I think I've seen you around on threads I've commented on, and we're both INFPs. So hey, nice to meet you.

I'm jumping in on this thread on the last page, so this has probably already been discussed. But my two cents:

I'd have to agree with being hypersensitive. I often don't want to show anyone a song I've been working on or a photo I took for fear they won't be that excited about it, say nothing, or even criticize it. I hate criticism. I think this may be because we as INFPs are already so hard on ourselves and already aware of the imperfections--even if on a subconscious level--that hearing criticism (even constructive) is like a knife through our skin. I've made a conscious effort to not be so sensitive and to have a thicker skin. I am so damn sensitive that if, for example, a car speeds impatiently by me in a parking lot or whatever, I get mad and take it personally.

A couple other things that I am struggling with are attention to details and being easily annoyed. I've worked as a cook and I've studied as a science student (labs and such), both with piercingly annoying attention to BS. Add this necessary attention to detail with being surrounded by TJ types (in science class), who are often control freaks at the tiniest level, and I'm about ready to lose my mind. The end of the semester is near, and I guess it's been a lesson in what I really like (or don't like). I got my first degree in English, and definitely enjoyed it more than Biology, although I am fascinated by broad level science.

I think career choice is another extremely difficult issue for INFPs. As we are so idealistic, pretty much everything in the modern world is in opposition to our ideals. For me, I am so damn afraid of being stuck in a dead end job with no creative outlet. I think maybe that confidence may be an issue for some INFPs. It definitely is for me. I have a couple creative talents, but seem to lack the courage to dedicate myself to them. I don't know if this goes back to being too hard on myself as an INFP. I think many INFPs tend to get discouraged easily. At least I know I do.