Alex Jones Hits it Out of the Park Live On Huff Post...

Originally posted by ShaeTheShaman
i noticed most of the bad things people have to say about alex jones is things like, "boy that man is crazy" or "hes lost it"
thats it. nothing to actually really discredit him. cause you can actually look up what he talking about. and he tells you to do so

Yeah? Well I and others have looked up some of AJ's "facts", and some are true some are pure BS.

It's patently obvious that Jones apologists, like your good self, are the very people who don't bother to take AJ's own advice because if you
actually did bother to take a critical look at some of the things Jones has "the documents" to prove you'd see for yourself that the man mixes fact
with fiction regularly......how ironic.

If I want to protect myself from other citizens then sure a glock or a 590a1 will do the trick. My concern isn't about my neighbor it's about the
government. Therefore anything available on the market including assault rifles isn't enough.

I would prefer an AA12 fully auto shotgun. Fully auto CZ75's and a Galil equipped with grenade launcher please! A couple pounds of C-4 and my very
own drone fully equipped package. Unitl the government puts down there guns I won't. Simple as that! I am not an advocate for violence but when
"those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable" ~JFK

Originally posted by ShaeTheShaman
i noticed most of the bad things people have to say about alex jones is things like, "boy that man is crazy" or "hes lost it"
thats it. nothing to actually really discredit him. cause you can actually look up what he talking about. and he tells you to do so

Yeah? Well I and others have looked up some of AJ's "facts", and some are true some are pure BS.

It's patently obvious that Jones apologists, like your good self, are the very people who don't bother to take AJ's own advice because if you
actually did bother to take a critical look at some of the things Jones has "the documents" to prove you'd see for yourself that the man mixes fact
with fiction regularly......how ironic.

Care to show us some specific examples?

And lets be careful to distinguish vague open ended opinions from actual statements presented as fact.

Just playing advocate here, as an exercise. I dont care either way as I dont trust media to begin with.

As usual, Alex gives his usual simplistic spiel of the "left and the right working together" to enslave Americans for the sake of some neo-eugenic
master plan..

But this is so simplistic, and hysterical in it's assumptions of how far he thinks people are able to agree on a general course society should take.
However, he is pretty much spot on in saying that the right (republicans) need to adopt a Libertarian, constitutionalist position if it wants to stay
relevant in American politics. Whats pathetic is that instead of appreciating the mainstream trend this idea (which he champions) is taking, Alex
seems more resentful that he isn't the figurehead of it all. All he does is spread worry and concern that Glen Beck (who I don't like or trust
anymore than I do Alex Jones) has some nefarious agenda behind his support for libertarian values; whats the issue? If he's supporting the political
values you consider important, what does it matter? Why does he hypothesize some maleficent intent behind it? He's an opportunist. The people at Fox
News who employ him back a free market economy. That's it. They disagree with the philosophical agenda being pushed by the left

The right and the left cover the gamut of all possible political positions. Only a complete ignoramus could believe that both parties are conspiring
towards the same ends when they don't even agree on the same beginnings: philosophically, they start from someplace else, politically, they prefer
different systems. The right and the left differ in capitalism and socialism, free market economics and socialist economics, statism and anarchism,
libertarianism and central planning, traditionalism and progressivism, localism and universalism, conservatism and liberalism etc... To ignore all
these fundamental differences, grounded in human nature, to flat out say "there's an agenda against the American people" is hyper paranoic, and
seems to me to be a desperate effort to get people to pay attention to him and his radio and internet shows.

While I agree with his preference for Libertarian politics and free market capitalism, I disagree with his naive understanding of the role and
importance of foreign policy. Thus, while Libertarianism would be ideal, it has to be quantified in relation to the outside world; if the outside
world is "safe" and free of disturbance, then, of course, lets return to the Jeffersonian, John Stewart Mill type society Alex Jones envisions; but
the world isn't like that. Besides the growing influence of China on the world stage, and their itch to grab a greater role on the world stage and in
the international community (a position Ron Paul and Jones would expect America to abjure) the ascendance of Islamists in Morocco, Tunisia, Libya,
Egypt, Gaza and possibly many other places, makes the world a far more complicated space. To become insular, to become more "open" and loose may
prove self defeating in the long run.

Recognition of external threats are important when it comes to determining state policy. Full blown libertarianism would be to unipolar, to
unsettling, for America to survive the coming struggles. It would be downright reckless to ignore the probable difficulties ahead. The military,
defense spending, are all areas which, unfortunately, need to be tended to if America and it's treasured values are to be preserved.

Originally posted by ShaeTheShaman
i noticed most of the bad things people have to say about alex jones is things like, "boy that man is crazy" or "hes lost it"
thats it. nothing to actually really discredit him. cause you can actually look up what he talking about. and he tells you to do so

I think maybe you should take another look because there is alot to discredit him ,examples being his y2k show, saying martial law is happening soon,
major false flag attack at the end of 09, the us dollar will loose it 90% of it's value in 2 years, major bombing of the USA 6 months after Obama was
elected, tptb are training 17 year old kids to enforce martial law, saying WW3 is going to happen soon, Obama is going to stage a major terror attack
in 60-90 days, xbox is a tool for tptb so they can recruit kids with high scores to become drone operators, at least 15 European nations will
collapse, another staged terror attack in april 2010, and US dollar will be devalued 50% in 2 years, I could go on all day with these falied
predictions and all these came in 2009 and 2010. Alex Jones never once said he was wrong, printed a retraction, or even gave a explantation, AJ loves
to misinterpret his source or the article he's talking about. If you look online you can find huge lists or websites with all his failed predictions
and misinformation. My biggest bone to pick with AJ is his y2k fear mongering show where he could of got one of his many unstable listeners hurt or
even killed.

mafia families operate from completely different paradigms. my family, superior to all others. yet, they will work together to achieve mutual goals,
until it is in their interests not to.
The GOP and DNC establishments are both seeking a state centric, totalitarian, country. Once acheived, the dominant group will attempt to use their
power to eliminate the opposition. just like a mafia consolidation war.

these aren't mistaken facts, or incorrect calculations, these are outright lies and distortions.

90% of AJ's reporting is real enough. but what is the purpose of the remaining 10%?

Question. Are partial truths coming from the mouth of a controlled opposition asset better then no information at all?

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It's a hard one to pin down.

One thing's for sure, Y2K, how any sane person can listen to Jones's broadcast and not question his credibility is f**king beyond me.

I have to agree 100%! AJ's y2k show makes it seem like he wanted some of his listeners to get arrested or worse. I personally feel that someone
isn't after the truth when they make all these earth-shattering predictions and then once they don't happen the person never brings it up again.

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