I agree with you. You have more problems with the system you bought not being built properly. You lost 2 CPUs and that is unacceptable. I do not know where these systems are stored, maybe in a closet without proper ventilation. It seems to me that you have built a computer that doesn't have the proper amount of fans in it and the case is not right either. You have a lot of issues going on here and I do not think liquid cooling is the correct fix, but maybe it is. I can't tell though 2 emails. You might have a system with 4 hard drives in a RAID config, dual/quad core 2 CPU, 1U box, etc. Though I don't know anything about what the machine is like, power supply requirements, case size, environment (data center or home), motherboard CPU. I ask these questions because they should all be taken into account. You had someone build you this system and maybe they spec'ed it out. I hope you didn't get ripe off, but it happens a lot in this industry. I do not want
to get in a email back and forth thing on this list either. I'm fine with your setup if you are. I would be more than happy to take a look at it and make recommendations. I would even build you a new liquid cooled system. All for free too. Let me know what you want to do.
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t0md
--- On Wed, 1/14/09, Blake Haggerty <Blake.Haggerty at Sapphire.com> wrote:
> From: Blake Haggerty <Blake.Haggerty at Sapphire.com>
> Subject: RE: [sf-lug] building liquid cooled PCs in SF?
> To: sf-lug at linuxmafia.com> Cc: tomdiz at yahoo.com> Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 4:42 PM
> Yes they make silent fans..
>>>> Still doesnt address the problem that I lost two CPU's
> to overheating (not overclocked...) Maybe there is a problem
> somewhere else in the case with heat transfer or the tech
> that told me they died due to heat issues was wrong; but
> liqiud cooling has seemed to solve the problem. I wouldnt
> call it a waste, if it did nothing then it would be a waste,
> but it continues to cool the CPU and does a better job of
> it. Just as a Mercedes continues to drive it just does a
> better job of it.
>> Blake Haggerty
>> Permanent Placement Specialist
>> Sapphire Technologies U.S., a Randstad company
>> 27 Maiden Lane
>> San Francisco, CA 94108
>> (p) (415) 788-8488
>> (f) (415) 788-2592
>> www.sapphirena.com
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> From:Thomas DiZoglio tomdiz at yahoo.com> To: "sf-lug at linuxmafia.com" , "Blake
> Haggerty" ;
> Sent: Jan 14, 2009 04:21:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] building liquid cooled PCs in SF?
>> They sell fans that make no noise for 1/2 the price of a
> liquid cooling system. I have run home servers and non-over
> clocked game machines with these fans for 24/7 and they have
> had no problems. If you don't overclock liquid cooling
> is a waste of $. But then again people have $ to waste.
> ---------------------
> t0md
>>> --- On Wed, 1/14/09, Blake Haggerty wrote:
>> > From: Blake Haggerty
> > Subject: RE: [sf-lug] building liquid cooled PCs in
> SF?
> > To: sf-lug at linuxmafia.com> > Cc: tomdiz at yahoo.com, dcstein77 at gmail.com> > Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 2:51 PM
> > My primary machine is liquid cooled... I thought it
> was
> > pretty easy to do. That all being said If you have
> never
> > built your own machine or replaced parts...etc i could
> see
> > how it would be difficult.
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't really have a true need for it being
> liquid
> > cooled, my processor is not overclocked. The reason I
> did it
> > is I felt that most processor fans are noisy, and the
> pump
> > for the coolant that I bought was dead silent. On top
> of
> > that I have had processor chips die on me and when I
> had the
> > chip looked at I was told it was a heat issue. So I
> figured
> > I'll just liquid cool it to play it safe.
> >
> >
> >
> > My machine is on 24hrs a day I play first person
> shooters
> > on it (yes on Linux) like Urban Terror, I rip Blu-Rays
> and
> > watch those while allot of other stuff is going on in
> the
> > background so maybe that is the stress and heat being
> > created and why I have had chips fail. But I have
> never
> > overclocked my processor.
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't think overclocking is a prerequisite to
> liquid
> > cooling a machine. If you want to do it half of the
> fun is
> > putting it together. It all comes down to your skill
> level,
> > what is it?
> >
> >
> >
> > Liquid cooling your PC is like Pimp My Ride for
> computers
> > its not always necessary but its cool.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> >
> > Blake Haggerty
> >
> > Permanent Placement Specialist
> >
> > Sapphire Technologies U.S., a Randstad company
> >
> > 27 Maiden Lane
> >
> > San Francisco, CA 94108
> >
> > (p) (415) 788-8488
> >
> > (f) (415) 788-2592
> >
> > www.sapphirena.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:Thomas DiZoglio tomdiz at yahoo.com> > To: "sf-lug at linuxmafia.com" , "David
> > Stein" ;
> > Sent: Jan 14, 2009 12:49:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: [sf-lug] building liquid cooled PCs in
> SF?
> >
> > Why do you want to do this?? I know why windows gamers
> want
> > too for overclocking. I suggest only doing it if you
> really
> > have a need for it. Overclocking effects the life of
> your
> > machine and voids all warranties. I have done several
> > systems in the past for windows gamers and I could
> help you.
> > It is very expensive to do this and if you are not
> > overclocking there is no need for liquid cooling.
> There are
> > other cooling options available.
> >
> > Also, verify that your motherboard can be overclocked
> > first. Usually only hi-end motherboards allow
> overclocking
> > effectively. If you do not have a real need for
> overclocking
> > I suggest not doing it. Are you building a Linux
> server that
> > needs to be overclocked?
> >
> > Right now, I recommend ASUS boards with the new Intel
> > Nehalem quad core CPU, Intel X58 chipset and DDR3
> 1600Mhz
> > support. They have a nice external USB overclocking
> LCD
> > device that connects to the motherboard to help
> > overclocking, though the auto mode is best.
> > -----------------------
> > t0md
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 1/14/09, David Stein wrote:
> >
> > > From: David Stein
> > > Subject: [sf-lug] building liquid cooled PCs in
> SF?
> > > To: sf-lug at linuxmafia.com> > > Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 12:24 PM
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > A lurker here. I'm looking for a place in SF
> or
> > the
> > > area which has
> > > experience building liquid cooled PCs. I know
> this is
> > > slightly
> > > off-topic, but I figured many sf-lug readers
> might be
> > into
> > > this kind
> > > of thing and would have advice. I have a fan
> cooled
> > Linux
> > > PC right
> > > now and would just like to drop it off with
> someone
> > who
> > > could convert
> > > it all to liquid cooled. Any advice?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > David
> > >
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