I think his relationship with Holder is beyond gone. I'm pretty impressed with Gundy standing up to Holder and Boone and pissing on their shoes though.

I think if Gundy were to do this next offseason then they would call it. Holder is on his way out though, slowly but surely.

I know Tenn contacted Holder and let them know they were going to talk to Gundy, Arky did not. Gundy went to Tulsa and met with Arky with out informing Holder, that pretty much says it all with regards to their relationship.

Holder is a massive dick though and pretty much hated by all internally.

quote:Holder is a massive dick though and pretty much hated by all internally.

That we agree on. I had a deal with the Foundation, the AA, and Learfield that would have helped out the endowment situation nicely. I had no problems getting meetings with Hargis, Jewell, Kyle Wray, etc. Holder wouldn't take a phone call once, or let me explain what sort of commitment I needed from the Ath. Dept and the $ they could expect in return.

So now, we work to help other schools and I'll never give OSU a second chance.

quote:Bret Bielema has the most pressure on him right away. Look at the Arkansas fans on this board, they act like this guy will be the next Nick Saban.

Alot of pressure on him already and its only a few days in

Not really. We understand that it should be at least three years before we have expectations of fielding a really good team. 6-6/7-5 should be considered a success for next year with the change in philosophy and brutal schedule.