Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’

Their is a generational difference. The women of today are NOT the women of 30 years ago. It's a needle in a haystack trying to find a decent woman. I'm at least average looking, extremely fit, kind to a fault, and make almost 200k a year. All the promising women I've dated end up being huge disappointments. Liars, cheaters, gold diggers. It's not just me. Good guys finish last in our society of predatory feminazis.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30688956

Very sad....

Dysfunctional Families produce dysfunctional people...

The family has been under attack for a number of years now...

I come from a traditional family and I have a traditional marriage....

Apples usually don't fall far from the trees...

Quoting: christian

There are a few wonderful young women in my church but I'm almost 40, too old for them. Guys like me that committed to one woman only to be betrayed halfway thru life are screwed.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30688956

Dude, what age gap are we talking about here? If you're going after 19 yr old girls, then maybe you deserve to be alone. If they are late twenties and you are late thirties, that is not so much of a gap, still manageable.

Believe it or not, there are wonderful women in your age range who have also gone through what you've gone through. Take a look at the women who are maybe your age, or 5 - 10 yrs younger than you, not twenty.

But you don't want that, do you? You pine for the 19 yr old, then cast aspersions on all women bcs you can't get what you want. Ridiculous.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1112387

This is not at all true, but your assumptions say a lot about YOU. I look young for my age and I've had young 20 somethings interested in me. I'm not interested in them. I want a woman, not a girl.

I've been with my wife for 30 years. I reckon I just got lucky or chose well, right?

And all those married couples I know--just lucky.

Maybe you guys are making bad choices or something.

Quoting: Spine monkey

I'm in your corner...

I think the MSM has changed what a young man expects as well... he thinks a size 2 with d cups and stilletos is what to look for.

ALSO while a lot of us were busy raising our kids to have everything we didn't, we created a monster! OUR own children have no clue about a "work ethic" or why grades are important, or the simple fact that you don't start at the top.

I can say that I have 3 daughters.... 2 married...

BOTH of my son in laws have driven my girls crazy with their love of "Video games" they will spend thousands of dollars and waste hundreds of hours online with friends..."having wars". So the street goes two ways.....men aren't men anymore either....they are boys only more expensive.

Quoting: Scarbedazzles

Your daughter married losers. Grown men don't sit around playing video games. Girls tend to marry guys that are like their dad.

Yes Sir, the problem is women have been led to believe they are victims by the media, they are convinced by the media they are always being discriminated against by men, so they strive to succeed, become highly educated, attain good jobs, yet they are never, ever satisfied, women still want more, so they have kids, start a family, yet it still is not enough, it's not like what the Kardashians have nor like other reality shows, so, they throw their man away, get a divorce, plastic surgery and get themselves a new man, a younger man, yet it is still not enough, 'till one day they find themselves very old and very much alone!

Quoting: polyphemus75

This is very true. My ex thought she would ditch me and find some fantasy world. She is miserable and alone. I'm reasonably content because the focus of my life isn't my happiness and everything I want mememememe.

I was married and my husband cheated - and I'm sure many will blame me for that..all of you men know other men that will cheat even when they have a great woman - so I dont want to hear it.

Regarless,I'm in my 40s, attractive, very sucessful, built a beautiful home, etc. No kids, help my family and friends.

I haven't dated for 12 years..why. Because most men are only looking for someone to take care of them, while they persue selfish interest.

Give me a break - a woman has to work and take care of everything on her own. Pay the bills, clean the house, do the shopping and cooking, hire contractors to fix things around the house while he sits on the couch or watches porn.

I've been with my wife for 30 years. I reckon I just got lucky or chose well, right?

And all those married couples I know--just lucky.

Maybe you guys are making bad choices or something.

Quoting: Spine monkey

Their is a generational difference. The women of today are NOT the women of 30 years ago. It's a needle in a haystack trying to find a decent woman. I'm at least average looking, extremely fit, kind to a fault, and make almost 200k a year. All the promising women I've dated end up being huge disappointments. Liars, cheaters, gold diggers. It's not just me. Good guys finish last in our society of predatory feminazis.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30688956

I just have to ask. Are you looking for a woman that fits the model type? I have found that a lot of men wont give an average woman the time of day.

I do agree with a lot of what you guys are posting. It does seem that the good guys get the shaft a lot of the time.

..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way."Heraclitus

Take a look at ANY dating site and notice a good 92 percent of the women on them already have kids, some by obvious multiple fathers. These same women are no doubt living with their parents, a bf *sucker who doesn't know she is looking to switch johns*, or they are on the welfare system.These same broads with their multiple children *no doubt multiple personalities as well* think their shit is so diamond encrusted and beautiful they DEMAND that some Joe-schmo must have a nice new car, an excellent job, six pack abs, ripped, etc, etc.They are perpetual children that still have glittery wall paper, listen to rap or mainstream music, often mention under favorite books description that "They do not read".They are used up and dumb yet they feel entitled to demand?Makes zero sense.I recommend to any single guy who has a hard on just walk on by when you see some broad with multiple kids and thinks she is some sort of goddess.Pay attention to the signs, save your soul, dick and heart from stds and destruction.Always wear protection that YOU bought and never let it out of your site, these psychos will punch holes in your condom just to get another check.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32008174

I lived with my family when i met my fiance. I moved out of state to be with him. My family was a necessary support system due to ptsd and suicidal ideation. Id probly be dead if i never moved in with them, even with my important reasons to survive. My fiance now is my rock. I wouldnt have moved out of my family's home without having a caregiver to ensure my safety.

My situation was unusual, but i found my fiance in spite of my disability.

I avoided pregnancy except ive had one miscarriage and one child resulted from a rape. I dont have my child anymore cuz the mental upset was used against me and homelessness sealed my loss of parental rights. Even with all this, my family And fiance supports me emotionally, they dont judge me. They miss their grandchild just as i miss my child. i invest my money and im planning to go to premed and hope to become a radiologist as it is the most benign MD career that minimizes patient to doctor contact--i wouldnt have to deal with people other than while going to school and volunteering (which i enjoy).

"Not many people know that Feminist media darling, Gloria Steinem, was in fact working for the CIA - or that Ms. Magazine was a CIA funded publication. So far, this is the most in-depth video on YouTube on the subject."

The NWO and its minions in the CIA are eugenicists who wish to depopulate the earth. Hence their corruption of traditional values of marriage and the family. A weak population can be "re-educated."

uk women are horrible as well,they have become like men,going out boozing,swearing,laddish boorish behaviour,god help the next generation.women are losing their femininity,the very thing that makes a woman desirable,there are nice lovely, bubbly, attractive ladies out there but they are rare as hens teeth nowdays!i have used hookers just for entertainment and to satisfy desire,they get a lot of money and i get satisfaction,hence everone is happy!but i too would buy a (skin job),if they ever created such a thing,cos women just aint women anymore,they might have a womans body but their mind is that of a bloke,eewww.is it any wonder more and more men are turning gay?theres a lot of men with a womans mind but a blokes body,man this world is messed up:(.

uk women are horrible as well,they have become like men,going out boozing,swearing,laddish boorish behaviour,god help the next generation.women are losing their femininity,the very thing that makes a woman desirable,there are nice lovely, bubbly, attractive ladies out there but they are rare as hens teeth nowdays!i have used hookers just for entertainment and to satisfy desire,they get a lot of money and i get satisfaction,hence everone is happy!but i too would buy a (skin job),if they ever created such a thing,cos women just aint women anymore,they might have a womans body but their mind is that of a bloke,eewww.is it any wonder more and more men are turning gay?theres a lot of men with a womans mind but a blokes body,man this world is messed up:(.

What obnoxious whiners you men are. Real men do not whine, nor do they blame everything onothers, they shoulder responsibility on their own shoulders and look for reconciliation.

There has been a saying that has existed for millenia, "men are not made for marriage but marriage was made for men".

For whatever reason men are and have always been self centered and nothing has changed. For the real men who understand that and most of them when they are honest willingly admit that, they are the ones who are successful in getting married and staying married.

I think that a lot of what is being said regarding women today is correct and it is certainly not confined to any race, country or even most of the cultures, we have changed. We let you know now that the things that we put up with are not optional any longer, that we have feelings and we have expectations. We also have options supported by law that enable us to excercise alternatives.

Now that we have gotten ourselves into this mess it is time to put the blame game and insults away and work with what we have.

Too many of the last two generations have been overly indulged and have no respect for anything nor each other so it puts huge obstacles in the way of working relationships, even solid friendships are rare today, gender independent of any reason other than not wanting to do the work of maintaining them and , yes, relationships of any kind require tolerance and plenty of work.

Look. Let's face facts. Women in America are OBESE. Their vaginas smell of curds and whey. They are disgusting. And men are supposed to grovel at their cankles? I. THINK. NOT.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31759745

Hilarious, and true. Allow me to add that American women are the biggest sluts on the planet, possibly equaled in that respect only by women from England. All over South America, the local men LOVE American women, since they're always infinitely easier than the local women.

You know, I sent over 1000 ''meet me'' invitations on Plenty of Fish and I only got about three responses from fat chicks.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30262762

I tried a little experiment on match.com. I posted the normal sort of closeup as a main picture. I left out details about my job etc. in my profile. I got about 2 emails a week and maybe half a dozen smiles.

Then I changed my main pic to one of me standing next to my Porsche at an SCCA event. I put in my income stats (nearly 200k a year). You would have thought I was Brad Pitt and Sean Connery's love child! I had almost 120 emails, smiles, and endless chat invitations. Confirmed what I already knew about American women.

My generation was enjoying our early 20's when online social networking took over. I can't speak for every guy, but my standards for wife material went way up when "nice girls" realized how much attention they got by showing off cleavage to their 500 "closest friends".

I started to think maybe I'm just going for the wrong women... maybe I need to find one that doesn't have an online profile where she shares every damn detail of every relationship. Nothing is worse than getting blasted publicly for some argument that was expected to remain private.

As it turns out, a girl without social networking is like the proverbial virgin bride and I stopped being an idealist in thinking that Holy Grail is out there. Maybe I'm just old fashioned but it's difficult to want to marry a girl that thinks it's classy to broadcast her ass and tits on the internet.

All that is to say that despite what bothers me about the growing trend of low self-esteemed females out there, it saved me from a few that I was ready to commit to way too early.

I'm not saying my future wife isn't out there, but I've learned that being 31 and having no kids - while many of my friends have their own little monsters - is pretty fucking awesome. In other words, why buy the cow when the milk is on clearance?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27317240

As and older female I'm floored by these pics of young girls all over the net. It's appalling! Where are their parents?

Why are girls cheapening themselves this way?

And why the hell are the so-called feminists not addressing this?

Is THIS was they fought for?

Many women from that era have woken up and realize they were sold a load of horseshit.

You know, I sent over 1000 ''meet me'' invitations on Plenty of Fish and I only got about three responses from fat chicks.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30262762

I tried a little experiment on match.com. I posted the normal sort of closeup as a main picture. I left out details about my job etc. in my profile. I got about 2 emails a week and maybe half a dozen smiles.

Then I changed my main pic to one of me standing next to my Porsche at an SCCA event. I put in my income stats (nearly 200k a year). You would have thought I was Brad Pitt and Sean Connery's love child! I had almost 120 emails, smiles, and endless chat invitations. Confirmed what I already knew about American women.

You know, I sent over 1000 ''meet me'' invitations on Plenty of Fish and I only got about three responses from fat chicks.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30262762

I tried a little experiment on match.com. I posted the normal sort of closeup as a main picture. I left out details about my job etc. in my profile. I got about 2 emails a week and maybe half a dozen smiles.

Then I changed my main pic to one of me standing next to my Porsche at an SCCA event. I put in my income stats (nearly 200k a year). You would have thought I was Brad Pitt and Sean Connery's love child! I had almost 120 emails, smiles, and endless chat invitations. Confirmed what I already knew about American women.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30688956

THIS ^^^

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31687278

God, that's sad. Really sad.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814

I have done this experiment myself and had the same exact results which really just confirmed my views of women. Whores, every single one of them.

I have to agree with the other Canadians that say our females are pathetic too. Going to a nightclub, or a regular bar, you'll see countless sluts who are so friggin' shallow and materialistic who are looking for either a sugar daddy or the hot guy to take them home and treat them like the pigs they are. I was a pro musician for 17 years, so i've see just what the girls are capable of to get what they want.

So i've developed a little 3 part test for any woman i'm interested in. First they must pass my a list of critical traits that would make a trusting, ethical, very compatable, decent mate, who actually has the forsight to think of a future in 5, 10, 25 years. Then the 3 part test.

1) The George Carlin Test: I put on a Carlin album, and we'll listen to it. How much she "gets" the humor, shows me that she can deal with that sort of comedy, which is alot like my personality. lol. If she happens to already like Carlin, she automaticall wins test one.

2) The same with maclean and maclean. If it's not too harsh for her, that's a plus.

3) And the final part:If she grew up being called "princess", she drops down the list hugely. Those types of women don't appeal to me at all. I might also check out how she is with animals and my cats. If she loves animals and they like her, that's a huge plus too.

And the test works. I now have a smart, tall, blonde, shapely, sexy, honest, giving, moral, awake woman whom i wish i met 20 years ago.

There's a huge number of lame, dumb, shallow, materialistic little "princesses" out there, but if you have some standards you won't relax because a woman is gorgeous, you'll find someone who will rock your world, and show you that true love and trust can be had with someone outside of family.

I've been with my wife for 30 years. I reckon I just got lucky or chose well, right?

And all those married couples I know--just lucky.

Maybe you guys are making bad choices or something.

Quoting: Spine monkey

Their is a generational difference. The women of today are NOT the women of 30 years ago. It's a needle in a haystack trying to find a decent woman. I'm at least average looking, extremely fit, kind to a fault, and make almost 200k a year. All the promising women I've dated end up being huge disappointments. Liars, cheaters, gold diggers. It's not just me. Good guys finish last in our society of predatory feminazis.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30688956

I just have to ask. Are you looking for a woman that fits the model type? I have found that a lot of men wont give an average woman the time of day.

I do agree with a lot of what you guys are posting. It does seem that the good guys get the shaft a lot of the time.

Quoting: geminilion

Looks come second. Character is first. Of course I need to be attracted to them but I'm realistic. I'm average looking or perhaps a bit better, but I'm extremely fit from rock climbing. I'm a very stable person and make more than 99% of men. I shouldn't have to settle and I won't. I have no problem attracting great looking women, but they are indeed shallow almost without exception. People have told me I'm nuts because I've ditched a couple absolutely gorgeous girls who I found lacked character. I know better. I would be happy with a "7" that has integrity and self respect, and understands traditional roles. I'd happily slave away and provide for a good woman who wants to be a stay at home wife and mother. Not one woman in 100 in this country seems to fit that profile any more.

The good men, like me, get burnt once and learn our lesson. I did everything in the world for my wife for 16 years only to have her betray me. She even admitted to everyone it's her fault but it's "her life and she can do what she wants". I doubt I'll ever marry again, but if I do it will be to an Asian or some other culture where the women aren't raised to be psychotic hippos who are never happy. American women SUCK. Yes, there are exceptions but they're few and far between. All the good ones are snatched up young and for a 40 year old like me the choices are divorced moms looking for a payday, or young golddiggers. I'll pass.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30688956

i agree with what you are saying but be careful when dealing with foreign women as well.

i knew of someone who married a woman from an asian country

and she took him for all he was worth...

divorced him and took it all

and in the meantime imported her family here to live while they were married....

don't allow your troubles to blind you

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31503468

In all cases I have seen where men take foreign brides, their brides are dazzled by the endless shopping opportunities here and have the men abysmally in debt very quickly. Also they have not been faithful to these guys, so maybe you better stay home to get your brides, fellas!

I have to agree with the other Canadians that say our females are pathetic too. Going to a nightclub, or a regular bar, you'll see countless sluts who are so friggin' shallow and materialistic who are looking for either a sugar daddy or the hot guy to take them home and treat them like the pigs they are. I was a pro musician for 17 years, so i've see just what the girls are capable of to get what they want.

So i've developed a little 3 part test for any woman i'm interested in. First they must pass my a list of critical traits that would make a trusting, ethical, very compatable, decent mate, who actually has the forsight to think of a future in 5, 10, 25 years. Then the 3 part test.

1) The George Carlin Test: I put on a Carlin album, and we'll listen to it. How much she "gets" the humor, shows me that she can deal with that sort of comedy, which is alot like my personality. lol. If she happens to already like Carlin, she automaticall wins test one.

2) The same with maclean and maclean. If it's not too harsh for her, that's a plus.

3) And the final part:If she grew up being called "princess", she drops down the list hugely. Those types of women don't appeal to me at all. I might also check out how she is with animals and my cats. If she loves animals and they like her, that's a huge plus too.

And the test works. I now have a smart, tall, blonde, shapely, sexy, honest, giving, moral, awake woman whom i wish i met 20 years ago.

There's a huge number of lame, dumb, shallow, materialistic little "princesses" out there, but if you have some standards you won't relax because a woman is gorgeous, you'll find someone who will rock your world, and show you that true love and trust can be had with someone outside of family.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12367143

I've only scanned over this thread, but in doing so, it strikes me that people are looking in the wrong places....or maybe, because of the places they go, it indicates what kind of lack of character they have. Seems like when you frequent sleazy places, you'll find sleazy people, so what do you expect?

I've been with my wife for 30 years. I reckon I just got lucky or chose well, right?

And all those married couples I know--just lucky.

Maybe you guys are making bad choices or something.

Quoting: Spine monkey

I'm in your corner...

I think the MSM has changed what a young man expects as well... he thinks a size 2 with d cups and stilletos is what to look for.

ALSO while a lot of us were busy raising our kids to have everything we didn't, we created a monster! OUR own children have no clue about a "work ethic" or why grades are important, or the simple fact that you don't start at the top.

I can say that I have 3 daughters.... 2 married...

BOTH of my son in laws have driven my girls crazy with their love of "Video games" they will spend thousands of dollars and waste hundreds of hours online with friends..."having wars". So the street goes two ways.....men aren't men anymore either....they are boys only more expensive.

Quoting: Scarbedazzles

funny how everytime a senetence starts with "real men" or "mature men"... it ends with something that benefits females. so you all want to be bought and paid for, live off of a man, and basically be pedastalized, or else he's "not a man".

what if women aren't really women? women are glorified prostitutes and attention whores. like marc rudolph said, if you need to be bought and paid for" (dates, marriage), you know the rest.

now that i think of it, women haven't even contibuted anything to society. everything's been done by men, and we're still expected to baby sit you with gender roles, all the while offering "equal opportunity".

Sounds like a bunch of sour grapes to me.

I've been with my wife for 30 years. I reckon I just got lucky or chose well, right?

And all those married couples I know--just lucky.

Maybe you guys are making bad choices or something.

Quoting: Spine monkey

I'm in your corner...

I think the MSM has changed what a young man expects as well... he thinks a size 2 with d cups and stilletos is what to look for.

ALSO while a lot of us were busy raising our kids to have everything we didn't, we created a monster! OUR own children have no clue about a "work ethic" or why grades are important, or the simple fact that you don't start at the top.

I can say that I have 3 daughters.... 2 married...

BOTH of my son in laws have driven my girls crazy with their love of "Video games" they will spend thousands of dollars and waste hundreds of hours online with friends..."having wars". So the street goes two ways.....men aren't men anymore either....they are boys only more expensive.

Quoting: Scarbedazzles

Your daughter married losers. Grown men don't sit around playing video games. Girls tend to marry guys that are like their dad.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30688956

yeah, grown men are supposed to waste all of their time and money worshiping objects. it seems like if it isn't something pro-female, the white-knight beta males and useless objects are butthurt over it.

the article clearly says that men are down for this lop-sided legal contract anymore, and guess what? somehow men are in the wrong. nothing new here. i hope you females out there enjoy being alone. most men don't need attention/affection, so we're good

The good men, like me, get burnt once and learn our lesson. I did everything in the world for my wife for 16 years only to have her betray me. She even admitted to everyone it's her fault but it's "her life and she can do what she wants". I doubt I'll ever marry again, but if I do it will be to an Asian or some other culture where the women aren't raised to be psychotic hippos who are never happy. American women SUCK. Yes, there are exceptions but they're few and far between. All the good ones are snatched up young and for a 40 year old like me the choices are divorced moms looking for a payday, or young golddiggers. I'll pass.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30688956

i agree with what you are saying but be careful when dealing with foreign women as well.

i knew of someone who married a woman from an asian country

and she took him for all he was worth...

divorced him and took it all

and in the meantime imported her family here to live while they were married....

don't allow your troubles to blind you

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31503468

^^^^^^This

When you get the asian woman you also get her whole damn family! Trust me...it's no bargain!