Lets say we forget about that article today about it coming out early in Korea. What about the release date here in the states for Verizon? Their website says ships by Oct 23rd. Ive heard people saying the launch is Oct 26th, and then Ive also heard Oct 17th. Has anyone heard anything credible?

I guess people are confuse about the trade in value of their phone.
You are NOT getting $200 for ANY smart phone you trade in.
Let say they appraise your phone samsung s3 at $80, samsung will double that = $160. If my crappy old smart phone worth $20, i'll get $40; if your note 2/3 worth $190 you'll get $200....from Samsung.

I read an article from cnet confirming korea's launch date, they said it may possibly lead to an early october launch in the states. So far though none of the dates mentioned are official. The 17th was supposedly the official date for the US but never confirmed by samsung. Samsung is supposed to announce the official dates within the next day or so. They will be haveing a release date party in korea whatever day that may be. By then we should have a solid date in the US.

Is there really any reason why you would pre-order a phone? Carriers should incentive Pre-orders by allowing the person to get the phone early or a little discount. I am planning on getting the note 4, but when I have pre-ordered another device it will usually arrive a day later due to shipping. For example, I pre-ordered the note 3, but if I would of waited till release day there was plenty of stock at the stores and my phone arrived a few days later. I really see no point at all in this process.

Lets say we forget about that article today about it coming out early in Korea. What about the release date here in the states for Verizon? Their website says ships by Oct 23rd. Ive heard people saying the launch is Oct 26th, and then Ive also heard Oct 17th. Has anyone heard anything credible?

That's the mystery I'm interested in solving too. Release dates are all over the place. AT&T is listed at Oct. 14, whereas Verizon says 'AVAILABLE BY' Oct. 23, which isn't any sort of shipping promise (otherwise they would put 'SHIPS BY'). Hopefully we'll get some clarification soon!

Come on people... wake up!! The specs of the Note 4 don't include 4gb of Ram that's fake totally fake and also I saw that link long time ago on amazon even some friend was try to prevent people to fall in the scam and if you read this advice people don't spend the money on it, also I saw some links on ebay the price is twice compare to the Amazon of course same fake specs.... again please don't buy the phone on website before you know how really is the original just wait a little more there is not reason to hurry up... new devices has new software and new software have not support yet so most of the apps in the store aren't working on it so take it slow....

Interesting that Samsung are going to release the Note 4 at a lower price point and sooner in Korea. I would have imagined that's the market where the Note 4 would have had the strongest presence? Seems like Samsung are gearing up for a really aggressive Note 4 push to try and ward off Apple.

Though, it's understandable that analysts and Samsung would be worried about Apple entering the 'phablet' space.

Samsung seem to be in a tough position in the phone market now. They're getting beaten by Apple in the high end where iPhones are continuing to sell very strongly (despite constrained supply and no China release) and Apple of course make an extremely healthy profit per phone sold. Then they make even more from the ecosystem with a cut of every app/song/show/movie sold. Samsung get a lower cut per device and then don't get any additional income with app/music/movie sales from the Play Store, as they go to Google.

And on the low end market, Chinese companies such Huawei, Xiaomi, Lenovo etc are making good enough devices cheaper than Samsung are.

I'm not sure how Samsung can turn things around. It's not like Samsung are on the verge of bankruptcy by any means, but the higher-ups at Samsung expect profits in the mobile sector to grow, not recede.

In any case, the price has gone up for the Note 4 here in Australia and the release date pushed back to the end of October. Would have liked it cheaper and earlier, but whatever. I'll still check it out when it's released.

Makes no difference when it comes , 16th, 17th, I will be ready.. I have already ordered the exact same kickstand bumper case, along with two tempered glass screen protectors that I have on my Note 3. AFter 11 months, my Note 3 looks brand new!! Cases and screen goes on my Note 4 on Day 1..

Makes no difference when it comes , 16th, 17th, I will be ready.. I have already ordered the exact same kickstand bumper case, along with two tempered glass screen protectors that I have on my Note 3. AFter 11 months, my Note 3 looks brand new!! Cases and screen goes on my Note 4 on Day 1..

Interesting that Samsung are going to release the Note 4 at a lower price point and sooner in Korea. I would have imagined that's the market where the Note 4 would have had the strongest presence? Seems like Samsung are gearing up for a really aggressive Note 4 push to try and ward off Apple.

Though, it's understandable that analysts and Samsung would be worried about Apple entering the 'phablet' space.

Samsung seem to be in a tough position in the phone market now. They're getting beaten by Apple in the high end where iPhones are continuing to sell very strongly (despite constrained supply and no China release) and Apple of course make an extremely healthy profit per phone sold. Then they make even more from the ecosystem with a cut of every app/song/show/movie sold. Samsung get a lower cut per device and then don't get any additional income with app/music/movie sales from the Play Store, as they go to Google.

And on the low end market, Chinese companies such Huawei, Xiaomi, Lenovo etc are making good enough devices cheaper than Samsung are.

I'm not sure how Samsung can turn things around. It's not like Samsung are on the verge of bankruptcy by any means, but the higher-ups at Samsung expect profits in the mobile sector to grow, not recede.

In any case, the price has gone up for the Note 4 here in Australia and the release date pushed back to the end of October. Would have liked it cheaper and earlier, but whatever. I'll still check it out when it's released.

Apple have always sold more than samsung. The s4 sold about 60 million in its entire run, the iPhone 5S probably sold double that. The new iPhones may impact on the sales of samsung's flagships but it's way too early to tell yet. I think people are just jumping to conclusions. Just because Apple released bigger phones they are not going to suddenly reclaim the market. In fact apple have never been the biggest OEM in the world. Before samsung it was Nokia. Apple's position is really distorted. They do well in the US but outside they are way off the mark when it comes to competing with Android. In Europe for example android has 71% of the market share in comparison to Apple's 22% . In some countries like Spain Android has over 90% of the market share. So the fact that Apple has released some bigger phones and samsung are getting squeezed by Chinese companies and having falling profits is going to do little to change overall market share.

Makes no difference when it comes , 16th, 17th, I will be ready.. I have already ordered the exact same kickstand bumper case, along with two tempered glass screen protectors that I have on my Note 3. AFter 11 months, my Note 3 looks brand new!! Cases and screen goes on my Note 4 on Day 1..

My Note 3 was looking brand new as well after 11 months. I had to replace it a couple of weeks ago due to the reception issues. So, mine is basically brand new condition now. I will most likely get the Note 4, but was debating on getting a case. I probably will just for a little added protection. My Note 3 only had the Spigen slim case on it. No screen protector as I like the feel of the glass. However, I have never really dropped it. Mainly, it was for added grip so I wouldn't drop it.