Yea I know the rolling system is stupid considering we're trying to push heroics and gear everyone as best we can. Could you elaborate as to why it isn't good for Ele's? I know that it's basically a niche trinket for snapshot DoT classes and has little use for burst specs, so I assume that's why.

From what I've read here it seems Ele would benefit far more from a longer lasting, heavy hitting proc trinket like Breath or Wush.

Ele benefits from the static Int and the proc, but the proc is devalued greatly because Lava Burst crits regardless, and that is one of our strongest spells, whereas an Int proc would benefit Lava Burst directly. The trinket is still very good for Elemental, because of our 250% crit damage from other sources, but the fact that Lava Burst doesn't benefit at all makes a lot of Elementals dismiss it.

To answer the question, it would be an upgrade for your Ele friend and a good one, but probably not as strong as it would be for an Aff-lock.

Xandy, I also direct you to look at the Warlock forum more in detail, because the Lei-Shen trinket is completely dismissed by some locks and considered almost as good as wusholay's/hydra by others. Might be the same size upgrade for both of you.

I simmed myself using 2/2 Relic and SP Talisman, and then compared with Cha-ye and SP Talisman, and 2/2 Relic outperformed it. I'd sim yourself, but to be safe you should only replace a 2/2 Relic with a 522 ilvl trinket.