PFT’s Week Eight picks

Last week, Rosenthal and I disagreed on three games. He was right on two of them, and I now trail by seven for the season.

To make matters worse, I was a pathetic 7-6. He was 8-5.

To make matters even worse, there’s a chance it gets worse this weekend, with another 13 games. At least he can only increase his lead to nine games, since we disagree on only two of them: Bengals-Seahawks and Cowboys-Eagles.

For the year, he’s 71-32 and I’m 64-39.

Read on to see who we’ve picked and specifically how we disagree. Given the choice of photo for this item, it’s safe to say I’ll be singing Fly, Eagles! Fly! on Sunday night.

Cardinals at Ravens

Florio’s take: The Ravens play well at home. The Ravens don’t play well against bad teams. The Ravens are playing at home. The Ravens are playing a bad team. But the Cardinals are really bad, and the Ravens have gotten a kick in the pants after losing to the Jaguars.

Florio’s pick: Ravens 31, Cardinals 17.

Rosenthal’s take: The Steelers struggled in the second half against the Jaguars two weeks ago, and took out their aggression on the Cardinals in Arizona. The Ravens lost to the Jaguars Monday night, and can take it out on the Cardinals in Baltimore. Passing game problems magically disappear when teams play Arizona.

Rosenthal’s pick: Ravens 31, Cardinals 13.

Vikings at Panthers

Florio’s take: The Panthers have made it through a rough stretch of their schedule, and they have a chance to enter the bye on a two-game winning streak. The Vikings have never won in Charlotte, and it’s unlikely that they’ll change that on Sunday.

Florio’s pick: Panthers 28, Vikings 20.

Rosenthal’s take: It’s not really fair to Andy Dalton, Christian Ponder, and Blaine Gabbert to be rookies the same year as Cam Newton. The Panthers quarterback is starting to mix better decisions with his weekly “wow” plays. Newton just doesn’t play like a rookie. He really doesn’t play like anyone that came before him.

Rosenthal’s pick: Panthers 33, Vikings 23.

Jaguars at Texans

Florio’s take: The best of a bad crop of early games, this one got much more interesting after the Jaguars stunned the Ravens on Monday night. Tied 9-9 all-time, the Texans can put a stranglehold on the AFC South with a win, and the Jaguars can make it interesting with an upset. The edge goes to the home team.

Florio’s pick: Texans 27, Jaguars 20.

Rosenthal’s take: If defense really wins championships, the Jaguars could be contenders. But Jacksonville needs something more from Blaine Gabbert, and teams need more in the gameplan than not turning the ball over. The Texans have a pretty decent defense, not to mention a guy named Arian Foster and a great run-blocking line.

Rosenthal’s pick: Texans 23, Jaguars 13.

Dolphins at Giants

Florio’s take: The Dolphins return to MetLife Stadium only 13 days after being steamrolled by the Jets. It wouldn’t be a shock if the Giants stub their toe, given their performance against the Seahawks. But, c’mon, they’re playing the Dolphins. The Matt Moore/J.P. Losman-led Dolphins. A Miami win would be an even bigger upset than Super Bowl XLII.

Florio’s pick: Giants 24, Dolphins 7.

Rosenthal’s take: It sounds weird, but this is a “must” win for the Giants. They can’t afford another bad home loss with the following schedule coming up: at Patriots, at 49ers, Eagles, at Saints, Packers, and at Cowboys. Luckily, the Giants face a squad this week that seemingly approaches every game as a “must” lose.

Rosenthal’s pick: Giants 28, Dolphins 10.

Saints at Rams

Florio’s take: This week, Sean Payton will be able to eat a hot dog, some nachos, a soft pretzel, and a box of popcorn.

Florio’s pick: Saints 42, Rams 14.

Rosenthal’s take: The Rams defense is most disappointing group in the league. The pass rush vanished. They are a mess at cornerback and special teamers starting at linebacker. Free-agent pickup Quintin Mikell has struggled. Only the Colts have given up more points than St. Louis, and that’s because of what the Saints just did to Indy. The Rams will be last in points allowed after this one.

Rosenthal’s pick: Saints 41, Rams 20.

Colts at Titans

Florio’s take: Four days ago, the Colts lost by 55 at New Orleans. Two years ago, the Titans endured a 59-point blowout against the Patriots. The Titans won their next game. That’s where the similarities end.

Florio’s pick: Titans 30, Colts 14.

Rosenthal’s take: The Titans were outscored 79-14 the last two games. The Colts were outscored 62-7 last week. Something has to give here, so I’ll guess it’s the winless team staying winless.

Rosenthal’s pick: Titans 26, Colts 17.

Redskins at Bills

Florio’s take: Another week, another Super Bowl rematch. The last three (Bills-Giants, Steelers-Cardinals, Colts-Saints) resulted in the same outcome. The trend will now be reversed, thanks to a rested Bills squad and a Redskins team that has been sliding back toward reality.

Florio’s pick: Bills 34, Redskins 24.

Rosenthal’s take: The Bills defense may have finally found a passing attack they can stop. Or perhaps John Beck found a defense he can make noise against. Either way, the Bills are better equipped to win a shootout. Plus Ryan Fitzpatrick’s beard just belongs in Canada. (This is the hard-hitting analysis you come to PFT for.)

Rosenthal’s pick: Bills 31, Redskins 24.

Lions at Broncos

Florio’s take: When a Christian is thrown to the Lions, sometimes the Christian wins. But not yet. Though it’s tempting to predict an upset, the Lions can’t afford to run their losing streak to three, and the Broncos simply don’t have the horses to beat a team much better than the Dolphins.

Florio’s pick: Lions 24, Broncos 14.

Rosenthal’s take: The Lions offense hasn’t consistently sustained drives for weeks. The Broncos passing attack had two yards halfway through the fourth quarter last week before Tim Tebow recovered an onside kick and sacked Matt Moore in overtime, before Tebow kicked a 52-yard field goal. In short: Expect a defensive game, with Matthew Stafford providing the drama this time.

Rosenthal’s take: Is the Steelers defense dominant again or have they just fattened their stats on the Seahawks, Colts, Jaguars, and Cardinals? I’m not sure the answer makes a difference. Tom Brady has a habit of shredding the Steelers even when Pittsburgh’s defense is truly elite.

Rosenthal’s pick: Patriots 30, Steelers 24.

Bengals at Seahawks

Florio’s take: It’s easy to write off the Seahawks in this one based on their performance (or whatever that thing should be called) in Cleveland. But they’re a different team at home, and the Bengals‘ 4-2 start is a little deceiving. So whether it’s Tarvaris Jackson or Charlie Whitehurst, the Seahawks and their 12th Man will continue their up-and-down season with a showing that will be enough to generate a win.

Florio’s pick: Seahawks 20, Bengals 17.

Rosenthal’s take: If you liked Browns-Seahawks last week, you’re going to love this one. Cedric Benson won’t be available. Tarvaris Jackson might be, but Charlie Whitehurst’s effort last week guarantees the Seahawks crowd won’t be chanting for the backup anymore. I’m picking the Bengals because I want to live in a world that Andy Dalton’s crew is in first place to start November.

Rosenthal’s pick: Bengals 10, Seahawks 7.

Browns at 49ers

Florio’s take: Now that the 49ers have gotten through a difficult stretch to start the season with a 5-1 record and are emerging from a bye, it would be fitting to see them come up flat against the Browns, especially since it’s a homecoming game of sorts for team president Mike Holmgren. Unlike the team led by Jim Harbaugh’s brother, John, the 49ers won’t play down to the level of the Browns, who while improving have a long way to go before they can be regarded as truly improved.

Florio’s pick: 49ers 27, Browns 17.

Rosenthal’s take: The Browns are the worst 3-3 team possible, with Colt McCoy regressing by the week. They play an ugly brand of football, but that’s the kind of game the 49ers like. San Francisco runs better than the Browns, and they defend better too. The 49ers are a legit 5-1 team. Make it 6-1.

Rosenthal’s pick: 49ers 22, Browns 13.

Cowboys at Eagles

Florio’s take: The rested Eagles can’t completely shake controversy, thanks to the comments of cornerback Asante Samuel. But the Eagles surely sense the opportunity to seize the division, and they can’t do it without beating the Cowboys. Though Dallas defensive coordinator Rob Ryan will have cooked up a good plan for containing Mike Vick, Andy Reid has had two weeks to come up with a way for generating offense, presumably with heavy doses of LeSean McCoy.

Florio’s pick: Eagles 30, Cowboys 24.

Rosenthal’s take: The Eagles are a team of extremes. They lead the league in rushing. They lead the league in interceptions and turnovers. They outgain their opponents by 100 yards-per-week, and find a way to lose. Dallas knows how to blow fourth-quarter chances too, but they have something Philly does not: One of the best defenses in the league.

Rosenthal’s pick: Cowboys 27, Eagles 21.

Chargers at Chiefs

Florio’s take: Suddenly, the Chiefs have become the hottest team in the AFC West. Just as suddenly, the Chargers seem to be falling apart. After losing 31-0 in San Diego last year, the Chiefs played the Chargers close on the road in Week Three. Now that the rivalry returns to Arrowhead Stadium, it’s time for the Chiefs to tighten up the top of the division.

Florio’s pick: Chiefs 27, Chargers 21.

Rosenthal’s take: The Chiefs have quietly survived Jamaal Charles’ injury, ranking seventh in rushing yards. The Chargers have quietly stunk defending the run, giving up exactly 162 yards to the Broncos and Jets the last two games. Put them together in Arrowhead, and there might be a three-way tie for the AFC West lead.

Im kind of tired of hearing how the Redskins regressed. Try winning mid season with 3 starting offensive lineman, your number 1 receiver, your number 2 receiver, and your starting free safety all out as well as your second round draft pick DT, your starting RB and starting TE done for the year, your strong safety and second cornerback banged up, and a new quarterback.

Not to mention their brutal schedule. Games still left against contenders like the Jets, NE, Dallas, NYG, Philly, SF, and this week against the Bills.

And Carolina was in EVERY game they lost. Anyone who watched football knew they were not that bad at all.

You guys should go tally up point differentials in predicted-points scored and actual-points scored (completely ignore W/L). That will certainly be a more noisy signal than straight up Wins and Loses, but it would be interesting to see which of you two is better a predicting scores.

Get one of your interns to do it now.

bangthedrum22 says:Oct 27, 2011 11:42 AM

dcfan4life says:Oct 27, 2011 11:24 AM

Im kind of tired of hearing how the Redskins regressed.
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Its not that the skins have regressed it’s that they weren’t very good to being with .. two of their three wins came against az and stl both games they had to squeak out a win. Mabey next year bro

The Dolphins scored 15 points on Denveer last week, and you expect the Lions to only score 17! I think the Lions O is a little better than that, with or without Stafford.

spungy says:Oct 27, 2011 11:44 AM

Daniel from the old testament is a Christian now, good to know!

mrconnors says:Oct 27, 2011 11:45 AM

Right, 66Rick. Taping defensive signals helped Bledsoe shred the Steelers to the tune of 10-21, 100 yards, 1 TD. He never would have put up those monster numbers without the magical, mystical signals.

The Patriots also never would have returned a punt for a TD, and blocked a FG and returned it for another TD. They KNEW what was coming, LOL.

Steelers fans are hilarious. Taping defensive signals had nothing to do with the Patriots whipping you twice in the AFCCG, and since 2007, Brady has destroyed (without those amazing signals) better Steelers teams than you had at the start of the 2000’s.

In response to notrelated’s comment to Andy Reid’s ” superior 12-0 record after the bye week.
Just look at the teams they played after the bye, im positive only 3 of the 12 teams had winning records.
The fat Walrus is a joke !!! Your team is a joke…
Let the excuses begin……..

“The Pittsburgh Steelers lost their third-round pick in the 2001 draft and were fined $150,000 by the National Football League yesterday for violating salary cap rules with the retired offensive tackle Will Wolford.”

Huge game for the Iggles and Boys. Loser misses the playoffs. Write it down.

Patriots get a chance to see if they are finally coming together on all sides of the football. Tough game in Pittsburgh and the Steelers want this win! Being 6-1 and having two of those wins against potential division winners Pittsburgh and SD would be very encouraging.

“Its not that the skins have regressed it’s that they weren’t very good to being with .. two of their three wins came against az and stl both games they had to squeak out a win. Mabey next year bro”

Were they over rated, I dunno. The Chargers beat 4 bad teams but barely lost to the Patriots and Jets. Are they overrated at 4-2? The Redskins beat 2 bad teams and barely lost to the underachieving eagles and cowboys. The beat one good team handily, the NYGs, and lost to one mediocre team (thats underrated in my opinion) in the Panthers. This is a 7-9 team, 8-8 tops, which isnt bad as their schedule ensures that. I do agree with your last sentence though, watch out next year.

ndgarretjax says:Oct 27, 2011 12:44 PM

“The Broncos passing attack had two yards halfway through the fourth quarter last week before Tim Tebow recovered an onside kick and sacked Matt Moore in overtime, before Tebow kicked a 52-yard field goal.”

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Ummmmmmmmmmmmm WHAT?

gosuhgo says:Oct 27, 2011 12:44 PM

I just don’t see how the Broncos could beat the Lions. QB draws can only work for so long. If Timmy can’t throw the ball (he can’t) they won’t win.

NoRespect says:Oct 27, 2011 12:46 PM

bhindenemylines

Incorrect, the laws of probability indicate that given predictable outcomes, prior results mean nothing. If I toss a legal coin 1000 times and it comes up heads 1000 times, the probability for either result is still 50/50 each time.

As far as Football, I’m pretty sure the Laws of Probability say nothing.

Deb says:Oct 27, 2011 12:49 PM

Gee could we drizzle a little more Tebow sarcasm over the Broncos comments? From a purely football perspective, it’s hard to imagine Denver’s subpar offense overcoming the Lions’ stellar defense. But as an SEC fan, I watched Tebow come back and come back against some fine defensive teams. He couldn’t overcome my Crimson Tide in the end, but he never quit despite taking a fearsome beating. I’ve got no dog in this hunt and agree that Tebow lacks some serious QB skills. But it would tickle the fire out of me to see him pull off another wild and wacky win this week just to stick it to the smart-alecks.

I wouldn’t mind seeing some sort of statistical back up for this assinine statement.

The Browns are ranked FOURTH in the NFL in regards to defensive yards allowed per game.

I think a worse “possible” 3-3 team would include a defense that was ranked worse than 4th in the NFL. (perhaps 5th…or 30th?)

However, the author of said statement NEVER lets facts get in the way of his attempts at trying to out-snark his boss.

(yes, the browns aren’t that good, but the “worse possible” 3-3 team? hyperbole…it’s for losers!)

gimmeabruschi says:Oct 27, 2011 1:00 PM

66rick says: Oct 27, 2011 11:23 AM

Dan Rooney owns the team. Art Rooney died in 1988. 6 rings, no cheatin’……(but everyone else did it too, right pats fans)

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Steroids are and were cheating. …… (but everyone else did it too, right steeler fans)

mpg22387 says:Oct 27, 2011 1:05 PM

@dcfan4life

“Im kind of tired of hearing how the Redskins regressed. Try winning mid season with 3 starting offensive lineman, your number 1 receiver, your number 2 receiver, and your starting free safety all out as well as your second round draft pick DT, your starting RB and starting TE done for the year, your strong safety and second cornerback banged up, and a new quarterback.”

“It’s not really fair to Andy Dalton, Christian Ponder, and Blaine Gabbert to be rookies the same year as Cam Newton. The Panthers quarterback is starting to mix better decisions with his weekly “wow” plays. Newton just doesn’t play like a rookie. He really doesn’t play like anyone that came before him.”

Too bad Dalton has more wins than Newton. Oh, that’s right- only stats and fantasy numbers make you good anymore. Not leading your team to wins.

Absolutely no way the Jags score 20 on the Texans. They’ll get no more than a few field goals.

Deb says:Oct 27, 2011 1:34 PM

@gimmeabruschi …

Read up on your NFL history before you start that Steelers-‘n-Steroids bit again? It’s been well established that steroids were in common use by every team from the late 1960s until they were banned by the NFL in the late 1980s. And since they were used by players on every team, it was an even playing field.

Yeah, doofus asked for it with his “6 rings, no cheating” remark. But since I always post that the Pats didn’t get their championships from a video camera, it wouldn’t hurt you guys to take the high road, too.

holeinone09 says:Oct 27, 2011 1:46 PM

I find it humorous that some say it means nothing when Steeler fans talk about 6 SB victories, going to recent SB’s including last year, beating the Ravens, etc. They say “that is history, over, it happened in the past”, etc. and it has nothing to do with this year. Yet, many of these same people will talk about Brady beating the Steelers a number of times in the past 10 years.

Fine, the Steelers are deservedly the underdog here, because Brady is so good at getting rid of the ball quickly and the Steelers have injuries and have had inconsistent performances. Therefore, the pressure is on the Pats to win. If they win, it is expected and the Steelers likely go on to win 12-13 games anyway. But if the Pats lose, then it will be more devastating to them since they lost a game they were “supposed” to win and their/their fans’ ego gets flattened.

If anybody with any football intelligence at all thinks the Steelers are incapable of winning this game at home with the talent they have, then you should seriously question your football knowledge. I am extremely excited to be able to attend this game, and believe the Steelers have a great chance to win. Should be a fantastic game. Good luck to the Pats fans, but we owe you one! Don’t count your chickens before they are hatched.

GO STEELERS!!

footballfan says:Oct 27, 2011 1:52 PM

gimmeabruschi says: Oct 27, 2011 1:00 PM

66rick says: Oct 27, 2011 11:23 AM

Dan Rooney owns the team. Art Rooney died in 1988. 6 rings, no cheatin’……(but everyone else did it too, right pats fans)

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Steroids are and were cheating. …… (but everyone else did it too, right steeler fans)

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Still amazes me how the Steelers were the only team in the ’70’s that used steroids. Man the world is full of blind idiots. EVERYONE in football used them back then. Just so happens that the old Steelers guys admitted it. I’m not Steelers fan either!

mrconnors says:
Oct 27, 2011 11:45 AM
Right, 66Rick. Taping defensive signals helped Bledsoe shred the Steelers to the tune of 10-21, 100 yards, 1 TD. He never would have put up those monster numbers without the magical, mystical signals.

The Patriots also never would have returned a punt for a TD, and blocked a FG and returned it for another TD. They KNEW what was coming, LOL.

Steelers fans are hilarious. Taping defensive signals had nothing to do with the Patriots whipping you twice in the AFCCG, and since 2007, Brady has destroyed (without those amazing signals) better Steelers teams than you had at the start of the 2000′s.

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They WHY tape them at all, if they didn’t help? Basic logic says that the Pats cheated because it DID help. Sorry, but you and the rest of the Pats fan excusemakers lose this argument EVERY time, mrs. connors.

I agree that it is getting tiring hearing about how the Redskins had regressed but I also agree that they probably weren’t that good to begin with but was just able to make enough plays and even maybe outplay their opponents when they won those early games. But I think more people are now voicing their opinions with regards to their piling losses because quite a few considered them as “the team to beat” or “Super Bowl bound” when they won a few games even though it was early in the season. Again, this is most likely the only league where team standing and positions change within a week or two time period. I guess I can understand why the Skins fans got overexcited when they started the season with multiple wins considering they really have not had much success in prior seasons.

fmwarner says:Oct 27, 2011 5:10 PM

dhc1980 says: Oct 27, 2011 11:37 AM

Tom Brady, by no means owns the Steelers. He does not have 6 superbowl rings…The Rooney’s do though, and about to be 7!!
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And how many of those rings came at Brady’s expense?

Yeah, thought so.

Steelers fans here have accomplished the impossible. They make Pats fans look sympathetic.

PanchoHerreraFanClub says:Oct 27, 2011 5:22 PM

OMG, both of you are picking the Rams to score 2 TDs in a single game. What are you smoking? I predict that Rams will score exactly 2 TDs in the next 3 games.

strunkian says:Oct 27, 2011 5:37 PM

Rosenthal will be up by 50 by the time anyone locks up a playoff spot.

“The Broncos passing attack had two yards halfway through the fourth quarter last week”
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I am having a real hard time understanding the media hype behind this Tebow guy. They talk about him on ESPN, NFL Net, JRIB, heck even TMZ! Just a question for the peeps that watch the games which is you guys on here…. Am I missing something? This dude throws the worst football I have ever seen tossed by an individual older than 5. Every ball I saw him throw last week was a wobbly, bobbly, joke. Even “THE” couple he completed at the end of the game were a freakin joke…. So I ask what is the attraction???????
* Oh and prediction hmmmmm I predict that the Packers don’t win this week.🙂

0 degrees Kelvin says:Oct 27, 2011 6:03 PM

@theroc5156says:

No cheating?? Are you kidding me?? The Steelers were one of the most ‘roided up teams in the ’70′s.

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Steroids WERE NOT banned in the NFL until 1983.
So moron, how is that cheating in the ’70’s? Idiot.

@dcowboysfan : “your team (eagles) is a joke “……….The Eagles are 1 game behind Dallas and are gonna stomp Romo Sunday night .

@xtb3: They switched from the wide 9 to the more traditional 6 stance (on running downs) against a running team a held them to 42 rushing yards last week . It’s early but know your facts .
Philly will still win the East , and after Sunday will be in 2nd place….Times ours , haters !!!

oside760 says:Oct 27, 2011 6:34 PM

I wanna just go ahead and say this again, even though I’ve said it about a gazillion times already.. I don’t believe there is another charger fan out there in the entire universe that wants norv turner and aj smith fired more than I do. I haven’t agreed with the hiring since day 1, and I haven’t agreed with any of the other coaches he has brought in. I can’t wait to see the game this Monday. If they lose… I want norvs head

gimmeabruschi says:Oct 27, 2011 6:36 PM

Deb says: Oct 27, 2011 1:34 PM

@gimmeabruschi …

Read up on your NFL history before you start that Steelers-’n-Steroids bit again? It’s been well established that steroids were in common use by every team from the late 1960s until they were banned by the NFL in the late 1980s. And since they were used by players on every team, it was an even playing field.

Yeah, doofus asked for it with his “6 rings, no cheating” remark. But since I always post that the Pats didn’t get their championships from a video camera, it wouldn’t hurt you guys to take the high road, too.

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He asked for it. He got it. I temporarily came down from the high road to deliver the nut shot he was begging for. It was an act of random kindness.

The Steelers Super Bowl roid wins preceded the 1980 ban and the Pats’ Super Bowl camera wins preceded Goodell’s memo. There is no question of legitimacy in either case.

I encourage you as well to exit the high road and to admonish with a hefty kick to the testes any unprovoked Pats’ fan who would be so foolish as to attempt to besmirch the Steeler victories by bringing up roids.

howley1 says:Oct 27, 2011 6:57 PM

@xtb3: They switched from the wide 9 to the more traditional 6 stance (on running downs) against a running team a held them to 42 rushing yards last week .

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“against a running team” <—- hahaha

Just say it. It was the Redskins. They had no QB whatsoever, a bunch of 2's and 3's starting at WR, a crippled TE trying to play FB, and their top running back (Hightower) didn't play. It is what it is.

Is there anyone on the planet who really thinks the Rams will score more than 10 points against the Saints? Memo from Stan to Steve. “Tick, tick, tick.”

Deb says:Oct 27, 2011 7:13 PM

@gimmeabruschi …

Well, I have what fun I’m allowed, but for months the Gestapo have censored any attempt on my part to joke, demonstrate football knowledge, or comment on my own team unless I resubmit 20 times, complain incessantly to NBC, or manage to sneak in something when a respectful, professional adult moderator is on duty. So I imagine taking verbal swipes at people’s testes would be verbotten for me. But I’ll try my best😉 God bless the U.S.A.!

Satan's Valet says:Oct 27, 2011 8:10 PM

0 degrees Kelvin says: Oct 27, 2011 6:03 PM

@theroc5156says:

No cheating?? Are you kidding me?? The Steelers were one of the most ‘roided up teams in the ’70′s.

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Steroids WERE NOT banned in the NFL until 1983.
So moron, how is that cheating in the ’70′s? Idiot.

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The same way that a lot of people consider HGH to be cheating right now, even if it isn’t illegal (yet). I don’t need the rules to catch up with what I know is wrong to not consider it cheating, because I’m not going to hide behind a technicality. Does the spirit of fair competition mean nothing to you? If not I guess you never competed in anything athletically.

Deb says:Oct 27, 2011 9:01 PM

@the adult professional moderator with the sense of humor who approved my last post …

God bless you, too!!!!!😀

howley1 says:Oct 27, 2011 9:11 PM

The Steelers Super Bowl roid wins preceded the 1980 ban and the Pats’ Super Bowl camera wins preceded Goodell’s memo. There is no question of legitimacy in either case.

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Actually Goodell’s memo was not an establishment of a new rule but a reminder of an existing rule that had been around for years. I believe it was directed at at least one team that shall remain nameless… and that team ignored the reminder just like they had been ignoring the existing rule, which forced action.

gimmeabruschi says:Oct 28, 2011 12:16 AM

@Deb

They nix a few of my posts here and there. I just move on. Trying to divine the rhyme or reason behind it will only destroy your mind. Keep sharing your insights.

Steeler fans never cease to amaze me. They like to call the Pats cheaters even though most of their teams were roided up until it became against the rules. But yet they choose to ignore the facts that 1) the Pats’ SBs preceded goodell’s memo forbidding what they did and 2) Steeler hero Bill Cowher admitted to doing what the Pats did when he coached.

Hope this clears up any misunderstandings.

Deb says:Oct 28, 2011 3:28 PM

@routerunner …

Pats fans never cease to amaze me. They like to talk about “most” of our teams being roided up until it became against the rules but choose to ignore the fact that 1) only a couple of our offensive linemen said they took steroids and 2) every team–including the Pats–was roided up until it became against the rules. It’s called an even playing field.

I’ve already got the part about the memo. People that don’t get it aren’t going to get it anymore than people are going to acknowledge that all teams were using steroids during that era. In the Pats’ case, there probably are misunderstandings because that whole thing was so convoluted. But people know the Steelers weren’t the only team taking steroids. But just as you did in your post, they pretend otherwise.

Deb says:Oct 28, 2011 3:30 PM

Wish you’d let me tell gimmeabruschi there was more to it than that … because there was.

icyhuck says:Oct 28, 2011 6:04 PM

yeah the ravens are going to run the score up on the CARDs this week to make wacko,flacco look good LOL hope so//ravens fan

icyhuck says:Oct 28, 2011 6:08 PM

Marshall said the dolphins will win against the giants ,I won’t hold my breath