Friday, July 18, 2014

The Lunar Series's Goddess Althena

Hm. Although I’ve spaced’em out pretty well, I’ve done an unusual amount of rants about the Lunar series lately. I guess it’s probably my having played Lunar: Dragon Song last year...until recently, I’d been happily content to let Lunar rest in the back of my mind in static disdain, but once the series was brought back to my attention, I started to not only recognize the unspeakable terribleness of LDS, but also really remember the previous games’ specific problems. And in this renewed attention, I have come to realize something about the series that I hadn’t particularly thought about before:

Goddess Althena sucks.

Seriously, she’s total crap. Consider this: I have played 3 of the 4 Lunar games.* She is physically present and affecting the plot in 2 of those games, and both times, she gets brainwashed to be evil and do the main villain’s bidding. So far, 100% of the time that Althena has been in a game, she’s been duped into being evil. Once, yeah, I was willing to accept that, but twice? 2 for 2? Once is acceptable for an RPG character, happens all the time. I don’t hold the brainwashing against Mary’s husband in Tales of Destiny 1, or Kain in Final Fantasy 4,** or Knights of the Old Republic 1’s Bastila. In fact, in all 3 of those cases, the brainwashing angle is beneficial to the storytelling, adding characterization or providing new, positive characteristics to the game’s plot. But when you’re getting brainwashed more than once, by 2 different people,*** and you’re a freaking goddess? That’s just pretty pathetic, lady.

Not helping that is the fact that neither villain who brainwashes Althena is a particularly compelling character or has a very well thought-out, reasonable objective. One wonders how anyone could be brainwashed by Ghaleon or Ignatius to begin with. I guess there’s some plot-convenient magic going on with it, probably, but again, why the hell is it so easy to do this to the super-powerful deity who created, maintains, and watches over all of Lunar?

That’s certainly not the only beef I’ve got with Althena, though. Here’s another big one: the endings of both Lunar: Dragon Song and Lunar 1 both contain the implication that Althena has decided, in the human forms of Lunar 1’s Luna and LDS’s Lucia, that humanity does not need her to guide them, watch over them, and serve whatever capacity she does as a goddess just sort of sitting around in a glowy chamber that people don’t regularly visit anyway. Well, okay, fine. There’s the message of her children standing for themselves and facing their future with their own strength and so on. Good message, lamely conveyed.****

Here’s the thing, though: her children not needing her to create their own future should NOT the same thing as her deciding to skip out on goddesshood forever. When Luna dies of old age after the events of Lunar 1, she doesn’t reincarnate, and so Althena the goddess is gone forever. Well, that’s fine and all, but she’s taking herself entirely out of the picture when she KNOWS that Zophar, the ungodly powerful villain of Lunar 2 whose destruction of Earth necessitated the creation of Lunar to begin with, could potentially return to threaten the inhabitants of Lunar in the future! Luna-Althena is fully aware of Zophar’s existence, of how incredibly powerful he is and that he might someday threaten Lunar’s people with extinction, and yet she makes no effort to keep herself alive in case that day may come! And you can’t even say she just stupidly forgot or something, because she left a video message for Lunar 2’s Lucia (no relation to Lunar: Dragon Song’s Lucia; why the hell did the writers have 2 separate major characters in the series named the same damn thing?) explaining that she did so.

I’m sorry, but there is a DIFFERENCE between letting your children pave their own way without your guidance or interference, and just carelessly abandoning them to let them face down a monster of pure evil that dwarfs your own goddess-level power! You can WATCH things without interfering with their destiny, you know. I may have every confidence that a child has the coordination, intelligence, common sense, and maturity to use an oven, but that confidence doesn’t mean that the first time the kid tries cooking some mac’n’cheese, I should turn off the smoke detectors, hide the list of emergency numbers, disconnect the land line, toss all cell phones in the garbage disposal, scribble out all the instructions on the mac’n’cheese box, and leave town!

It’s just stupid black-and-white reasoning with no room for the gray area of common fucking sense. If your kid is getting picked on by another kid in school, and you tell him that he should try to solve his own problems, that’s one thing. But if your child later comes running up to you in terror because he’s being chased by a vicious, possibly rabid dog, your response should obviously NOT still be to tell him to solve his own problems! That dog is dangerous enough that it poses a threat to YOU, a full-grown adult, and thus it is NOT reasonable to expect the child to deal with the problem himself. It is CONCEIVABLE that a child might just be able to protect himself successfully from the dog--the same way it’s conceivable to bulls-eye a fly with a snapped rubber band with your eyes closed--but it is horribly wrong to assume that he can and must do so. And that’s what Althena does after her permanent death after Lunar 1--she just leaves a video to whoever’s day she screwed up in the future saying, “You can do it if you believe in yourselves! Hope it all works out for you kids!” and washes her hands of her children forever.

Okay, fine, you can argue that she did, in fact, wind up being correct, and the heroes in Lunar 2 manage to find a way to stop Zophar on their own. You know what? You want to count Althena’s faith that humanity would manage just happening to come true as a point in her favor, go ahead. Just go ahead, I don’t even frickin’ care. But in my opinion, the narrow save for humanity of defeating Zophar isn’t evidence of well-placed faith, it’s just them managing to accomplish something that couldn’t possibly have been predicted or relied upon under even the best of circumstances. Lunar 2’s heroes made it happen and good on them for it, but from the perspective of Althena centuries before, she just irresponsibly rolled some dice and they happened to come up favorably. But that’s just my perspective, I suppose.

And another reason Althena is a shitty goddess: for all the big deal that’s made about her taking a mortal form and letting Lunar’s people move forward without her guidance...well, what exactly was so great about her guidance to begin with? Quite frankly, the world that Althena has only comparatively recently stopped supposedly directly guiding in Lunar: Dragon Song is a pretty bad one. The society of Lunar: Dragon Song, which again is implied to have been until recent years under the more direct guidance of Althena, is racially oppressive! Because beastmen in Lunar are (supposedly) physically superior to humans in every measurable way, they dominate the best parts of the land to live in, rule over both themselves and the humans, enjoy all the best perks of their society’s cities and technologies, and generally just look down on all humans and see them as just a superfluous, lesser species. And don’t give me crap about how Althena has, by Lunar: Dragon Song’s opening, been away in the human form of Lucia for several years now. The idea that humans are inferior creatures is one that is an ingrained part of this society’s mentality, shared and fully accepted by nearly all beastmen AND human beings. Even if we assume that some huge social order rearrangement from a previous society of equality could have happened in the time that Althena’s been Lucia, AND had time to settle down by this point into being everyday life, there’s simply no way that an entire society would so universally adopt a notion such as one race’s inferiority to another in such a comparatively short period of time.***** This is clearly a social idea that has been around for a long, long time, so the inescapable conclusion is that for a significant period of time where Althena has been directly available and supposedly influential on Lunar’s society, she has either overlooked or actively encouraged a society in which one race is looked down upon and subjugated by another one.

And by the way, just to make things clear here for the kinds of folks who think Caesar’s Legion in Fallout: New Vegas was a legitimate social force, the Lunar society, at the time of Lunar: Dragon Song, is one which is more than sufficiently advanced enough that the supposed physical strength of the beastmen does not warrant greater social respect. It’s a well-advanced civilization with political leaders, bureaucracy, the arts, and enough technological advancement that intellect must be socially valuable to some degree. It has advanced to the point where there is no defensible reason to base social worth upon physical prowess, and obviously has been at that point for a long time. So there is no rational survival-related reason for making humans second-class citizens, or anything like that. Not that it would be rational anyway, by the evidence of the series’s own games. I mean, human Jian in LDS is the physical equal of beastmen Gabby and Rufus (not even counting Jian’s ability to attack thrice at once), humans Alex and Kyle in Lunar 1 are physically superior to half-beastman Jessica, and beastman Leo in Lunar 2 is at best only physically the equal of human Hiro.

So let’s count up what we’ve got here, shall we? We have a goddess who is brainwashed into being evil every time we see her, who 100% abandons her people even though she knows that an insanely powerful and horrible monster may someday attack them on the flimsy pretext that she thinks they’re emotionally ready to take it on and have to stand on their own and so on, and she let an inarguably unnecessary racially oppressive society rise up on her watch. So far Althena is sounding like one awesome benevolent, wise, nurturing goddess that everyone loves. Do I have anything else?

You bet I do! How about that Vile Tribe, huh? According to the legends of Lunar, the Vile Tribe were a bunch of no-goodniks who were banished hundreds of years before any of the Lunar games after they rejected Althena and for the bad deeds they did. What deeds were these? Uh, the legends are pretty suspiciously vague on this point, actually, and a quick search at a couple of Wikipedias and Lunar fanpages doesn’t offer any clarification.

Putting aside the suspicious lack of details to what the Vile Tribe did to deserve this punishment, banishment from the settled part of Lunar is a pretty big deal. Lunar takes place on the moon (uh, spoilers, I guess?), and it seems that most of the greenery and flowing water and all those nice life-sustaining environmental conditions are a result of Althena’s magic having jumpstarted and, at least for a time, maintained them. In most cases, banishment is no laughing matter, but in the case of Lunar, banishment from Althena’s lands to the untouched Frontier is to be exiled to a harsh, very nearly lifeless wasteland. I mean, it’s essentially just the moon as we understand it, except that Althena’s magical air spills over into it, I guess. As far as I’m concerned, the following are all significantly easier to survive over long periods of time than Lunar’s Frontier lands:

The Majority of Fallout’s Wasteland
Breath of Fire 3’s Desert of Death
The Arctic
Baten Kaitos’s Earth
A Long, Thoughtful Discourse between Tommy Wiseau and Sarah Palin

So I have to wonder, what crime was it that all those who would form the Vile Tribe committed to deserve this? This isn’t just your regular banishment where you send someone away to do their own thing and stop bothering you. This is the kind of banishment where you’re sending someone away to die so you don’t have to execute them yourself. This is about a quarter of a step away from an outright mass execution. So tell me, Goddess Althena, always presented as so benevolent, good, and loving, what was this vague crime of the past that was deserving of such an extreme punishment for so many? I’d love to know what they did that could be heinous enough to warrant this.

But you know, that’s not even my point here. Here’s where my real fourth argument of Althena sucking comes in. Let’s assume for a moment that whatever the people of the Vile Tribe did, it really, undeniably WAS worthy of banishment to the edges of Lunar 500 years ago. Swallowing that, let’s consider something The beings of the Vile Tribe aren’t mentioned to be any longer-lived than regular humans and beastmen (and living out on the Frontier, one can reasonably assume that most of the Vile Tribe would actually have shorter lives than the average Lunar citizen), so that means that the people who are forced to live outside of Althena’s lands by the times of the games, forced to subsist in this wasteland to beat all wastelands, are the distant descendants of the original Vile Tribe who committed the crime that we are currently assuming actually warranted banishment.

Ummmmmmmm...yeah, uh, why are they still there?

Althena’s banishment doesn’t just punish those of the Vile Tribe who actually committed the crime, it passes that punishment down from generation to generation! By the end of Lunar 1, 500 years’ worth of generations have been suffering for the sins of their forebears, sins that these children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, and so on had NO PART OF! By Althena’s decree, countless people have spent their entire lives in an agonized struggle for survival for a crime they did not commit! That’s...that’s horrifyingly unjust, outright evil!

You can try to rationalize it, sure. Here, let me help you--I already thought of some good ones:

“Ah gee, RPGenius, we don’t know that it was ALTHENA that kept them on the Frontier. Maybe she would have accepted the original Vile Tribe’s descendants back, and it was just the other people of Lunar who didn’t let them back!” Well that’s certainly possible, but I’d like to remind you that the major conflicts of both Lunar: Dragon Song and Lunar 1 revolve around the question of whether Althena should be available to guide and coddle Lunar’s civilization, with the understood implication that she has been doing just that. So even if the people of Lunar are the ones who keep the Vile Tribe exiled (due at least in part to the doctrine of Althena’s followers saying that this exile is a good thing), Althena has long been in a position up until very soon before both games’ beginnings to tell the Vile Tribe that it’s okay to come back, and to tell the rest of Lunar to suck it up and deal with it--IF she was willing to forgive the children for the sins of the fathers. But that does not happen.

“Well shucks there RPGenius, the Vile Tribe members we see in the games are mostly villains anyway. Maybe they’re still there because they’re still bad!” I think not. While Royce is shown to be pretty irredeemably evil and the possibility of Xenobia being capable of any good at all is questionable, Phacia, the third leader of the Vile Tribe at the time of Lunar 1, eventually comes to redeem herself, and from some of the things we learn during the games, the Vile Tribe of current times are doing what they’re doing because they’re justifiably pissed off at their exile and the difficult life they’ve all had because of it. But as at least some of them are capable of accepting and embracing the ideals of Lunar’s society, as seen by Phacia, they’re capable of complex thought and self-awareness of morality and emotion, and they’re capable of following a leader who promises them a better life, so I would say that the Vile Tribe are no more inherently evil than you or I. They possess the human spirit and a human-level intellect and self-awareness, and anyone who does so can, potentially, be a good, worthwhile, and acceptable person, given the chance.

“Maybe Althena doesn’t actually know they’re still out there, and would offer them the chance to come back if she did, RPGenius!” Well, I can’t remember exactly whether the Vile Tribe are a known fact to the society of Lunar in Lunar: Dragon Song and Lunar 1, or if they’re just a legend that people can’t verify or disprove, but by the end of Lunar: Dragon Song, Althena, in the form of Lucia, is very aware that the Vile Tribe exists because they factored into the whole adventure. Yeah, Lucia decides at the end of LDS that the world doesn’t need Althena’s guidance, but we know, given the later events of Lunar 1, that she at some point apparently changed her mind and went back to being a goddess who at least in SOME way had something to do with human and beastman affairs (if she truly had no part in them at all in that form, then she’d feel no need to let herself permanently die as Luna at the end of Lunar 1) for a while. Yet by the time Lunar 1 opens, the Vile Tribe is still forced to be out on the Frontier. Althena knows they’re there, and she’s not changing her mind about it.

“Maybe, RPGenius, they don’t want to go back!” They certainly do want to go back; that’s why Ghaleon is able to get them to build his Grindery in Lunar 1. Now, maybe you mean that they don’t want to go back and be presided over by Althena. That is certainly possible--the original myth of the Vile Tribe does say that they rejected Althena from the start, and if my memory serves, Xenobia and Royce reject Phacia’s idea of trying to return to Lunar peacefully under the rules of Althena. But you know what? That isn’t a reason that they can’t be given a little piece of Lunar for themselves that isn’t the horrible Frontier. So long as they were peaceful and didn’t trouble others, why not let them live somewhere reasonably habitable without having to go around worshipping Althena? They shouldn’t be forced to worship her if they don’t want to, and the punishment for not worshipping her shouldn’t be banishment to a harsh wasteland! If the current generations of Vile Tribe people are seriously being kept out just because they don’t feel like worshipping the goddess that let them suffer a painful, harsh existence as penance for their grandparents’ mistakes, then we can add “raging egomaniac” to the list of Althena’s bad qualities.

“But RPGenius, children SHOULD be forced to suffer for mistakes their parents made!” Please go and be an idiotic asshole somewhere else.

No matter how you try to rationalize it, it always comes down to the same thing: the Vile Tribe descendants unfairly suffer for someone else’s crimes, because of Althena, and are either passively or actively kept in that suffering by Althena.

So yeah. That’s the rant, folks. That’s why Goddess Althena sucks. She’s brainwashed too damn easily, she abandons her people knowing what kind of danger they might someday face and just cheerfully expects them to overcome it without any reason for such confidence, she allows groundless racism to shape and maintain an oppressive society, and she forces descendants to go through the agonizing punishment earned for crimes they themselves did not commit. So essentially, she’s easily the pawn of mortals (and bad ones, at that), she can’t be relied on, her guidance leads society astray, and regardless of her supposed benevolence, she’s actually utterly ruthless and unforgiving, and in a way that’s completely unjust. I actually think that’s a pretty comprehensive list of everything that is the exact opposite of what a deity is supposed to be! It’s a damned shame, it really is, because Althena was a solo-act goddess at a time back when RPGs involving outright gods didn’t really have many such things, only heterogenous pantheons or single male deities (or entirely male pantheons). I would have preferred to like her. But the flat fact is that she really just sucks.

* The 4 separate, actual, original Lunar games, I mean. The Lunar series is bizarre in that it has 10 different title entries in it, yet of those 10, the majority are actually just remakes and rereleases. Seriously--there’s Lunar 1 (The Silver Star), Lunar 2 (Eternal Blue), Lunar: Walking School, Lunar: Dragon Song (Lunar Genesis in Japan), and then the rest of the games in the series are 1 remake of Lunar: Walking School, 1 remake of Lunar 2, and then 4 remakes of Lunar 1. This is a series where the remakes actually outnumber the original games. Even Final Fantasy isn’t that bad...yet.

** Keep in mind that though Kain betrayed the party twice, it was only 1 single brainwashing that caused that--he simply didn’t fully snap out of it the first time. It’s not like 2 separate, successful attempts were made.

*** Er, sort of. Ignatius of Lunar: Dragon Song is supposed to be his own individual character, even if it’s pretty painfully obvious that he’s just a bad copy of Lunar 1’s Ghaleon.

**** For the sake of the rant’s integrity, we will forget, for a moment, that it’s illogical and stupid for Lunar: Dragon Song’s Lucia to come to this conclusion, when she will, some time later, be Althena doing Althena world-guiding things in time for Lunar 1’s events to occur, at which point she’ll apparently relearn the same damn lesson. If you’re going to make deity non-involvement your message for your prequel game, Game Arts, then you might want to make sure that your later, already well-established game doesn’t hinge on that message never having happened.

***** Actually, I can think of one single way that would happen in a short period of time--if Althena had herself said that beastmen were better than humans and should lead society in totality. But that possibility would just directly prove my point that she sucks, wouldn’t it?

13 comments:

Heh jeez this is well very convincing I must say I don't have that much experience with Lunar really I only played the second and some of the first but I always wondered what kind of goddess would leave her subjects to an near equal force of evil and essentially say "Good luck suckers!"

Maybe Althena isn't actually good at all but felt like getting worshiped as a goddess and then got bored huh?

Sorry if this response gets a bit long or disjointed. I don't stand by any of the following arguments, but they might give an alternative perspective or something.

Regarding the fifth paragraph, Althena was in her human form in both times she was brainwashed. I'm guessing she sealed her powers while she was a human? Luna should've been stronger in battle than she was, like how Laike/Dyne and Ghaleon were level 99 so that makes the power sealing thing somewhat likely. It's also possible Ghaleon might'v'e known a couple of weaknesses that Althena has since he was part of the four heroes that protected her.

In the PSP remake (Silver Star Harmony) there was a prologue where the four heroes were meant to protect Althena, which kind of makes you question if she has much power to begin with or if she's just lazy.

(Also, side note, but am I the only one that thinks Lunar 2's Ghaleon was more interesting? Mostly because he was a generic villain in the first, and became a somewhat okay repenting former villain in the second.)

For the seventh paragraph, it's possible to argue that she left the four dragons (whose culmulative power is meant to match Althena's) as a means of protection against Zophar, but Zophar sealed them, so they were kind of useless until you got their dragon auras back in Lunar 2.

Ah, and according to an interview that the original Japaanese spelling for the Lucias was actually different (and the author didn't notice the similarity until it was mentioned), but they were translated the same way.

About the twelth paragraph, I don't recall any racial tension between races in Walking School, which takes place between Dragon Song and Silver Star. Dragon Song kind of conflicts with the rest of the series. You could argue that Althena preferred humans over beastmen since it's always the humans that become dragon masters, as far as I know.

Incidentally, Althena was meant to be reincarnting during Walking School's events, which occurs every thousand or so years. Most of Lunar's citizens probably never even got Althena's guidance since she's hardly there most of the time.

Anyway, this was a pretty interesting rant. Never noticced how bad of a deity Althena was. I offer you this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB4yLAV18Rs&feature=youtube_gdata

Okay, so she was in human form when she was brainwashed. That doesn't really excuse her--if being mortal makes her vulnerable to brainwashing, then it's irresponsible and idiotic of her to allow it to happen. And yeah, you could argue that she might not have known that she would be vulnerable to it the first time around, as Lucia in LDS--but then it happens AGAIN later, when she has already KNOWN it's possible to brainwash her in human form and allow someone to abuse her godly powers. If I'm not to hold it against her divine personage that she can be brainwashed when made mortal, I then have to hold it against her for irresponsibly opening herself to the possibility knowing full well what could happen at least once, if not both times. I'd call that an even trade in suckiness.

I never really questioned Althena having Dragon Masters and heroes protect her. I mean yeah, sure, it makes her look lazy to have others protect her when she's so powerful, but it's like RPG law that no matter how powerful and unstoppable you are you always need lesser-powered servants to protect you even though you can defend you better than they can. That one I'll actually give her a mulligan on.

I wouldn't say Ghaleon's interesting overall, but that does give him more depth than most of the characters in the series, so by comparison, sure, he's interesting in the second game.

You can say she left the 4 dragons to protect against Zophar, and that's great, but it's not an either-or scenario. The dragons' protection wouldn't have disappeared if she had stuck around. Instead, there would be the dragons AND Althena to deal with Zophar. Additionally, by themselves they don't really pose much threat to Zophar, and Althena had the past experience to know how dangerous he was, so she couldn't have honestly thought they'd be enough. It's still a case of running out on her children as far as I'm concerned.

And finally, regarding the video: You are a wonderful, wonderful person and I love you super much. It's actually funny how there are a good few spots in there where the video actually works with the song, and the fact that they're almost the same length. Just a little bit of editing, and that could be a seriously awesome and frightening AMV. Did you make that? Because if you did, I owe you a couple GOG.com games.

First of all: Lunar DS doesn't count. It's almost fan fic. So, Althena has only been brainwashed once, not twice. That only happens in DS because the devs probably ran out of things to make it like an original Lunar game.Something more creative and new could have happened if the game had been well developed and funded.

Second: Gods and goddesses are bad to the world, that's the message of not only Lunar but almost every JRPG. And it has a message in real life too if you think about religion... gods are selfish and harmful, read their history. So it makes sense the gods and goddesses in games can really be brainwashed into evil. It's not exactly that they suck as characters, it's the nature of how things are. Humans, together, should be the ones that give the earth life.

Reconsider! Where was Studio Alex when Lunar DS was made? They were gone, away from that game.Just because the game is official and some of the original team worked on it, still doesn't make it a worthy product.It's like the company handed me the rights to make a new Lunar game, and I hired the wrong people to do it. Does that make it a worthy product to you? Would you judge Althena's actions based on what a person new to the series decided to do with her story? Nope. Official, yes, but it doesn't count.

Being "worthy" of the subpar Lunar series isn't exactly much of an honor, but I'll certainly agree that Lunar: Dragon Song doesn't even deserve that dubious "honor." However, since when did worthiness mean anything to what is and is not official? The first 2 Grandias were excellent titles, and the third is utter trash. Does that stop Grandia 3 from being considered a Grandia? It does not. Being uncharacteristically bad did not excommunicate Shadow Hearts 3 from the Shadow Hearts series, nor La Pucelle Tactics from the Nippon Ichi canon, nor Suikoden 4 from its franchise. Perhaps there are rare moments when a game is bad enough that the developer will back the hell up and write it out of existence, as is the case for Phantasy Star 3, but in general, you're stuck with what you're stuck with. "Worthy" unfortunately does not have anything to do with it. It counts.

Also, you keep comparing LDS to fanfiction, but I'm relatively sure that most fan works are much, much better and more faithful creations than this turd.

At any rate, you do realize that the majority of my points against Althena, including the most damning point, do not significantly relate to LDS? Even if that game's cut out of the equation (which it isn't), she's still condemning generations of innocents to a lifetime of harsh suffering for their predecessors' sins, along with the easy brainwashing thing and just up and abandoning everyone. With or without Dragon Song, Althena's a lousy deity.

Quote: >> Perhaps there are rare moments when a game is bad enough that the developer will back the hell up and write it out of existence <<Lol yeah, that's exactly what happened to Lunar DS.

You're right about fan fic. It can totally be an awesome work of art if the writer is good. But my intention of comparing it to fanfic is not to call it turd, but to call it something that's not by the original creators. Kei Shigema, the original writer for the other Lunar games did not work on Lunar DS.

Quote: >> she's still condemning generations of innocents <<That is on purpose though. That is the overall message of JRPGs, that gods and goddesses are bad and cause problems. Why else should the final boss of almost every JRPG be some kind of god?Althena is still one of the few that are good, but being a goddess, is susceptible to evil. There are the goddesses from Zelda though, which I haven't seen cause much trouble... oh wait. Nayru gets possessed.

And why should gods be bad, aren't they our creators who love us?The problem is that 1 single god shouldn't rule all humanity. People have different beliefs. You wouldn't want a religion to monopolize. Ghaleon had a good purpose in his mind actually. In his mind, he wasn't all evil. He just believed that there should be a goddess. That's it. But the way he went about it made him insane and caused problems to the world.

It's true though that Althena carelessly forgot humanity and let them face Zophar on their own xD I agree that's kinda messed up... Lucia is like the goddess that would protect humans from Zophar though, but she woke up too late cause she got her powers taken. LIKE TWICE. It is all so in the end humans can prove their strength, that we can be independent of a god.

It's just fiction. I'm not here to claim the characters are perfect or that I met a god in real life and know what i'm talking about, but your reasons for why she sucks intrigued me. Because she's kinda meant to be like that to prove the game's point. But in all honesty, I couldn't finish reading your article. I might finish it later and find out more about if she just sucks as a character or as a deity within the world.

Ha! Yes, that's quite an interesting thing, isn't it? The Bible itself, for what it's worth, isn't entirely clear on Christianity's stance on this. There are passages that indicate that the sins of a forefather must be paid for by his descendants, but also a couple passages in there that say just as adamantly that such a thing isn't right.

But even if it's ambiguous in straightforward terms within the Bible, the story of Adam and Eve certainly does imply that we're meant to believe that the children SHOULD be punished for the parents' mistakes.

Now, to be fair, the story of the Garden of Eden, while pretty damned fundamental to Christianity and the Bible, does hail from the earliest parts of the Old Testament. Christianity--real, proper Christianity, mind you, not the sects of uneducated sign-wavers who think Jesus was one of the founding fathers--is derived much more heavily in its teachings and beliefs from the New Testament, in which God has calmed down a lot to be the more merciful, wonderful being that He's supposed to be. Though the Bible is full of contradictions, the biggest challenge for any rational and faithful Christian, I think, is discovering how to balance it all out and find the truth of God in His wrath and benevolence.

Myself, I'm a Christian, though more of the introspective brand, not so much the church-going kind. Which of course might mean I'm no Christian at all, depending on who you ask. Either way, my personal truth is that the concept of original sin is an unjust one. I think there might be more to the story than the Bible tells us (if we are to take it as a depiction of fact, we must still accept that it was written (and altered countless times) by humans, not God or Jesus Himself, and human interpretation is notoriously biased and unreliable). Even if there really is nothing more to the story than what we can read, though, this is an issue where God and I must respectfully disagree (well, I'll respectfully disagree, at least; I suppose God can disagree as disrespectfully as he likes if it so pleases Him, because what exactly am I going to do about it?).

Even if that's the case, though, it's God I respectfully disagree with. Althena, however, is a lousy bargain-bin deity who can't keep a sparsely-populated sliver of the moon about the size of Idaho running smoothly even when she's directly supervising it. So I'll stand by my criticism here.

Yeah, I know not all sects of Christianity accept original sin (but I think most of the ones that reject it have bad reputations like how Mormonism is compared to Judaism/Islam often because it has a similar concept to yetzer hatov/fitrah), but I don't think any other related faith has that same concept. Still, your answer was insightful, thank you.