Urinating and drinking in public would no longer be treated as crimes under a package of bills New York’s City Council will consider to ease enforcement of quality-of-life offenses that lawmakers say clog the courts and have been disproportionately enforced against minorities.

The council scheduled a Jan. 25 hearing on the proposed laws, which are supported by Council Speaker Melissa Mark-Viverito, a majority of her 50 colleagues and Police Commissioner Bill Bratton. The proposal would remove the possibility of permanent criminal records for public urination and violating park rules, mostly treating them as civil offenses, along with public drinking, littering and excessive noise.

Such low-level offenses have left the city with more than 1.2 million active warrants, according to a fact sheet distributed by the council Wednesday.

According to the New York Times, one liberal official who sponsored this change noted it was designed to help minorities “reach their full potential.”

“We know that the system has been really rigged against communities of color in particular,” said Ms. Mark-Viverito, who has promoted such reforms and is the main sponsor of the bills. “So the question has always been, what can we do in this job to minimize unnecessary interaction with the criminal justice system, so that these young people can really fulfill their potential?”

This also comes as the city is relaxing rules on public drug use, open alcohol container rules, public masturbation, and excessive noise in this sweeping “Criminal Justice Reform Act.” This is a far-step away from the tough rules implemented by former Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who cleaned up New York’s streets with “broken window” policies.

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The Bible says clearly that in end times this kind of debauchery plus much more will be common place. It is a sad statement for a civilized society to transgress into this. The savages among us are a problem for all of us because this practice is unhealthy for everyone. I am an RN for 30 years and see the diseases and the resurgence of diseases we have conquered coming back to us along with many new diseases through immigrants and refugees.

So New York’s brilliant solution is to allow everyone to pee in public, right on the sidewalk. Of course not many women are going to squat to pee so this mostly refers to men, whipping their junk out in public. “Oh no officer, I was just shaking, the little girl was in the wrong place at the wrong time”. “Sorry sir, you I guess you cannot be held accountable for your perverseness as long as you pass it off as shaking after urinating”.

Well New York, you are the winner of the most F’d-Up State Award. Couldn’t build easy access restrooms or pass a law requiring shop owners to open their restrooms to the public. Not only are you allowing people to urinate and defecate in the streets, your also allowing people to expose themselves in public (with a nice, handy excuse) and the sickos will surely take advantage of this. Another win for the disgusting liberal agenda, next they will make pedophilia a sexual preference or allow men to use the women’s restroom to take pictures of little girls (oh, wait, this has already been done).

When are people going to say that enough is enough?

When are minorities going to say “Hey wait a minute, this is another horrible insult to minorities via the Democratic Party; why do we keep allowing them to do this to us”?

How ironic that the writer of this article, and many commenters, are saying this law favors minorities doing whatever they want, including urinating in public places. Yet, the photo is of a white guy urinating while a black man looks on in disgust.

Rather racist of these lawmakers to decide that minorities are too lazy or too stupid to learn not to do this kind of thing. And I suppose the disproportionate enforcement is because so few whites do this that they tend to be caught at a higher rate than minorities, resulting in relatively fewer of them being caught and prosecuted,

Urinating and drinking in public would no longer be treated as crimes under a package of bills New York’s City Council will consider to ease enforcement of quality-of-life offenses that lawmakers say clog the courts and have been disproportionately enforced against minorities. … I take it they are not concerned with STDs present in the urine and deposited on NYC streets and the sides on buildings!

This sounds like an Onion Spoof. But these days it can be hard to tell what’s real and what’s satire. But apparently, it isn’t fiction this time, though the Political Insider exaggerated a bit.

What they’re doing is greatly reducing the legal punishment for crimes like public urination. The PI had the reason right though: blacks were incurring the punishments disproportionately often, and the blame for bad black behavior was being placed upon “institutional white racism” hardwired into the laws.

So instead of requiring blacks to pay a high price for breaking the laws, the cost was lessened so that more blacks would find breaking those laws something that they could afford to do.

Next New York City will legalize Open Defecation, so Minorities can spread diseases as they do in Africa. Like ebola. I noticed that in the photo selected to accompany the article, they chose to show a WHITE MAN taking a public piss, while a BLACK MAN looked on askance. Anyone familiar with the statistics recognizes this as a politically correct switcheroo. It’s a kind of subtle misdirection about where blame for social ills should be assigned. And it’s a deception regarding the inequality of two different races, especially with respect to which of them is the better suited to living in a civilized manner within cities. (To hint at the truth, though: which race built them?)

This is wrong on so many levels who ever is passing this Mid Evil law needs to be fired it’s unsanitary for one and is going to cost tax payers in the long run on Hospital bills for anti biotics for all of the people that sleep in the street on the dried up puddle along with the feces which I’m sure will go hand and hand once they find out it’s okay and thats just one of the things wrong with this! And I think everyone should go ahead and whip it out all around the court houses and capitol for the first month just so they can smell, and see what they have done! Hopefully they get a good whiff and eye full of people’s privates the more disgusting the better!!!

New York Values!!!
Let’s not hold any accountable for inappropriate behavior. I’m sorry public urination, drinking of alcohol, or use of drugs is wrong, has always been wrong and will always be wrong!! Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!
Isaiah 5:20 & 23

So, if I get this right, if I’m a minority, I don’t have to act ‘normal’. I can set my own behaviors and bring civilization down to my level. I’m sure public defecation is right around the corner (watch your step), oh, but wait, let the non-minority not curb their dog and he/she will get ticketed. Troubled deeds in a troubled land. God help us.

The open container laws in New York City have always been a revenue generating racket. There are in neighborhoods where when you are seated outside at a restaurant or bar and you are able to drinking alcoholic beverages out in the open, but will be ticketed on the same block if you are drinking from an open container away from these places. Back in 1998 to avoid paying $9 for a beer at a club a friend of mine and I bought a couple beers at a local bodega and drank them outside, right next to the club before going back in. Just as I put my empty bottle down we were approached by two officers who gave us summonses for drinking in public, although there were three outside restaurants and bars where patrons were drinking openly in view from where we stood. When we went to court to dispute the tickets cause there were at least two errors on each: the first, the officer had given us each others summons to sign, and the second stated we were drinking Rolling Rock Beer when the officers hadn’t even bothered to look in the bags. Bringing these points up to the “defense” attorney at court he told us while we could fight the ticket, it meant we’d need to go to court a second day. He also pointed out that were drinking beer, we’d still been given the ticket for that and that the fine was “only $10”. As we sat and waited to see the judge, the only “crimes” people were there for were open containers which each person was fined $10 for, and urinating in public which was $50. The courtroom continued to fill as time moved on and we ended up agreeing to pay the fine to avoid missing another day of work.

Two things.
1. Every major city in the world outside the US it is legal to pee. (France installed “private”toilets for Americans)
2. Really? Everyone pees. The homeless pee outside anyway. Nothing is going to change except cops wont have to deal with it, the courts wont have to deal with it, and the homeless/ late night revelers won’t have to worry about going to jail because of a natural bodily function that everyone does.
Smart move New York!

So NYC is bringing the jungle to the inner city.
Keep encouraging the blacks to act as uncivilized animals and they will feel at home in the city as they would in the wilds of Africa.
You’ve just admitted that the blacks are uncivilized and will remain hat way.

So, now NYC is saying persons of color do not have access to a public restroom and make it legal to pee in public? To avoid discrimination, I would surmise women can also cop a squat where ever just like the men. Does that mean they can carry toilet paper with them and wipe? How about tampons and feminine napkins? How nasty! Welcome back to the middle ages. I have never been to NYC in my travels yet but this certainly makes me want to cross it off my list. NASTY!

Mayor DeBlasio,another liberal ass clown in a suit,is completely out to lunch on this as with many other foolish laws he’s enacted. The NYC that Mayor Giuliani worked so hard to clean up in several ways,this being one of them,is returning the city back into a crime ridden,thug infested toilet that it will now begin to smell like a dirty men’s room toilet. This is just so PATHETIC it is beyond ridiculous.

My question would be will they be allowing this behavior for ALL or just for some? In other words, if they are to turn a blind eye to the homeless dreg peeing on the corner of a building will they do the same for a sharp dressed executive who needs to relieve himself? Will they allow the women to squat over the storm grate? Why stop at urination? We’re one small step away from defection and in some cases you may just need, BADLY, to do both. Will that be tolerated? We used to be a republic which means that our government is run by a rule of law. We’re slowly turning into a democracy where whatever the majority of people think should be allowed is, regardless of the law. Hopefully there will be an outcry to this new policy as people see the danger of it and the liberals will retract their new policy. They will, of course, find someone to blame for having put the idea forth in the first place, or else apologize and explain that we’re just not ready for such a progressive measure. But if we come to accept it then they’ll start conceiving of their next change and that’s how liberals make inroads in America. That’s how they are slowly transforming us from a first world country into a third world slum and doing it with “the best intentions” and smiles on their faces.

When I lived in the Bronx in the 1950’s I was surprised when several women in my building allowed their children to pee in the street. Boys as well as girls. instead of taking them in to the bathroom. I had never seen women or men or children do that where i grew up. i thought it was so low class. Thankfully i moved back to New Jersey soon after and never saw that again.I think it is not a good idea even today.We are not a 3rd world country yet!

So a guy could just be walking down the sidewalk on 5th Avenue and decide he wanted to pee and could just unzip ….pull “it” out and start peeing while everyone was walking by? Does this apply to females too? Can they just squat and do it in public? In Europe they have public urinals on the sidewalks where males can at least face away from people and do it.

this is inline with the obama agenda, to turn this country into a third world country, so wheres the problem if the president wishes it. to me this is unacceptable behavior from anyone, white, black, hispanic or any other race, sex or gender. it is disgusting and will lead to hospital visits for people becoming unhealthy from it. look at the water in michigan, amazing what a democratic city will do.

We are losing our country folks…..if you want this crap you can get an airplane ticket to Lagos, and have all of it you want. The reason we are Americans is to get away from this. What’s next with these libs….can you not see that the degree of declination as a society is increasing exponentially.

Say hello to preventable diseases! Wahoo 1700’s making a comeback! Go for it New York! I can’t wait to watch your hospitals fill up with diseased, dead, and dying because you lack common sense and the people in your city can’t hold their piss in to find a bathroom. “We know that the system has been really rigged against communities of color in particular,” said Ms. Mark-Viverito – So true. I mean with minorities representing such a small portion of the total population, it’s totally true that majorities of people have more power to find a toilet or a urinal than any minority out there. This is disturbing – good luck yall! You voted for some smart people here!

They have been peeing in public anyway. Not just blacks and hispanics, drunk white boys and nasty asians and filthy muslims. Making it legal won’t change the behavior.
I do not know what is going on in Bill DeBlasio s mind, but I think he needs to reevaluate his values….if he has any.

That’s how is was pre Rudy Guliani, he changed it by allowing zero tolerance for any infraction. Graffiti was immediately removed as to discourage marking. Hopping the turnstiles in the subway got you arrested, public intoxication, littering, urinating in public… All resulted in arrest… eventually it all stopped, It is called broken windows theory. The broken windows theory is a criminological theory of the norm-setting and signaling effect of urban disorder and vandalism on additional crime and anti-social behavior. The theory states that maintaining and monitoring urban environments to prevent small crimes such as vandalism, public drinking, and toll-jumping helps to create an atmosphere of order and lawfulness, thereby preventing more serious crimes from happening. Read the specifics, it works well. De Blasio is working on creating an enormous ghetto