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That said, Eba's behavior in this Chapter is so incredibly disgusting that Seo has written himself into a dead end. There will be a reason given as to why she acts the way she does but it just won't do. Another Seo- manga in which the male lead ends up with a bitch. Seo Kuji sure has some issues.

Obviously you do not know the meaning of NTR. This is a NTR. In old version of the term it would not but in contemporary (where the nTR meaning got expanded and now NTR can be even if you are not in a relationship but still love/idiolize that someone and she starts dating someone else it is counted as NTR and the story is how from your POV to show your pain and increase rage emotion for the reader - it is still an NTR).

Right now i don't have any doubt that Kazama must know that Yuzuki is Haruto's ex. I still say he knew from the beginning so that it wasn't actually coincidence that Haruto just happened to meet Yuzuki's new boyfriend. But for the sake of that not being the case I still say he knows by now because there have been too many clues given to him.

In 89 when he is telling Yuzuki about Haruto he has a calculative look in his eyes. I'd say he was measuring Yuzuki's reaction to Haruto being there.

Then lets go back to the festival. Kazama now knows that Haruto went chasing after his ex who moved back to Tokyo. He even knows the school that she goes to and the people in it. Now his girlfriend also happened to recently move back from Hiroshima. She goes to the exact same school as well in the same timeframe. I'd say it's likely that he might look into it though before coming to conclusions. With all those girls he was with he must've asked someone about how many girls recently transfered to Tokyo from hiroshima. In such a short time frame it can't have been too many. Possibly even less time since people aren't as likely to transfer in the middle of semesters. Kazama must surely have figured out that Yuzuki was Haruto's ex with so much piling up. I don't see him as one to consider so many things as being mere coincidences.

Also if he hadn't put them together. Sure the super strange introduction Haruto and Yuzuki gave each other must give it away lol.

Right now i don't have any doubt that Kazama must know that Yuzuki is Haruto's ex. I still say he knew from the beginning so that it wasn't actually coincidence that Haruto just happened to meet Yuzuki's new boyfriend. But for the sake of that not being the case I still say he knows by now because there have been too many clues given to him.

In 89 when he is telling Yuzuki about Haruto he has a calculative look in his eyes. I'd say he was measuring Yuzuki's reaction to Haruto being there.

Then lets go back to the festival. Kazama now knows that Haruto went chasing after his ex who moved back to Tokyo. He even knows the school that she goes to and the people in it. Now his girlfriend also happened to recently move back from Hiroshima. She goes to the exact same school as well in the same timeframe. I'd say it's likely that he might look into it though before coming to conclusions. With all those girls he was with he must've asked someone about how many girls recently transfered to Tokyo from hiroshima. In such a short time frame it can't have been too many. Possibly even less time since people aren't as likely to transfer in the middle of semesters. Kazama must surely have figured out that Yuzuki was Haruto's ex with so much piling up. I don't see him as one to consider so many things as being mere coincidences.

Also if he hadn't put them together. Sure the super strange introduction Haruto and Yuzuki gave each other must give it away lol.

Yep! Agree with you on this, although I cant totally agree with you that he knew from the beginning, I must agree that by now Kazama should've figured it out as the coincdences are just too many and he doesnt seem to be a dimwit. Now he will be like the shoujo guys, he will start behaving badly with Eba to drive her away and make Haruto mad enough to snatch back Eba from him, while in reality Kazama will be really hurt but will act this way by sacrificing his own feelings to see the girl he loves truly happy......blah blah.....stupid predictable plot, I have seen it a million times in Shoujo

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Yep! Agree with you on this, although I cant totally agree with you that he knew from the beginning, I must agree that by now Kazama should've figured it out as the coincdences are just too many and he doesnt seem to be a dimwit. Now he will be like the shoujo guys, he will start behaving badly with Eba to drive her away and make Haruto mad enough to snatch back Eba from him, while in reality Kazama will be really hurt but will act this way by sacrificing his own feelings to see the girl he loves truly happy......blah blah.....stupid predictable plot, I have seen it a million times in Shoujo

No i say he found out before Haruto moved to Tokyo now. Yuzuki probably acceptable his confession at a point when she was very emotionally weak (After she saw Haruto and Nanami together) it was too late to take it back. She'd definitely be miserable after this because she ruined the best thing that ever happened to her as a result of her own insecurities. Kazama would likely have seen this and sought answer. I'd say Rin or Itsuki was the one to tell him the truth. Rin because it could cause chaos or Itsuki because he looked out for Yuzuki. He probably planned to meet Haruto which was why of all the people in Tokyo Haruto happened to meet him first.

I'm not saying he's doing it because he is a saint. He probably feels guilty feeling that it was his fault and that this was his way of making up for it. More than wanting to keep Yuzuki for himself, he probably also just wants to see her happy.

As for Yuzuki it appears that we can cross off that she is only with him out of pity for his illness. It appears that he just has anemia and just faints a lot which is why he's being threatened to not be allowed to race if it got worse. They don't want him to faint while racing and endanger himself or the other racers.

Yuzuki is probably only being such a bitch to Haruto because she's punishing herself for not believing in him. She wants to get close to him again but doesn't feel that she is worthy so she drives him away and attempts to keep him away by saying and doing mean things.

I have to admit it's pretty hilarious how unsurprising this "surprising twist!" is. Seriously. Even dead people knew what was going to happen in this chapter. Congratulations, Seo, you are officially a no-talent ass clown hack.

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Yep! Agree with you on this, although I cant totally agree with you that he knew from the beginning, I must agree that by now Kazama should've figured it out as the coincdences are just too many and he doesnt seem to be a dimwit. Now he will be like the shoujo guys, he will start behaving badly with Eba to drive her away and make Haruto mad enough to snatch back Eba from him, while in reality Kazama will be really hurt but will act this way by sacrificing his own feelings to see the girl he loves truly happy......blah blah.....stupid predictable plot, I have seen it a million times in Shoujo

i like what you are saying but i think Haruto will puss out before he tries to snatch back Eba. but from here on out im hoping that Kazama will start to realise that Eba just said yes to him out of sympathy and/or as a way to try and get over Haruto. i still cannot accept the fact that Eba has stronger feelings for Kazama than Haruto.

i like what you are saying but i think Haruto will puss out before he tries to snatch back Eba. but from here on out im hoping that Kazama will start to realise that Eba just said yes to him out of sympathy and/or as a way to try and get over Haruto. i still cannot accept the fact that Eba has stronger feelings for Kazama than Haruto.

Yuzuki probably didn't do it out of sympathy or trying to get over Haruto. I'd say she was probably an emotional wreck after seeing Haruto and Nanami holding hands and did it then.

Kazama said she wouldn't give him the time of day, but suddenly caved in. Probably like some have guessed when she seen Haruto and Nanami holdings hands. Then Eba wrote the note slipped it into the new present she bought and yada yada the rest is Haruto stalker history. Plus Kazama does know, he's not a dumbass even though he acts like one...

I agree with Freeter, also Lucia soothes my perviness with it's colorful pages from time to time...

haruto should just give up at this point. i agree with dark mage. he's probably going to go after eba ignoring kazama's position in the triangle. id rather see him go after nanami or akari than the hurdles to get eba back.

What will You do then if Arturro is right that Eba doesn't love Haruto.
I myself read KNIM as a filler manga, just few days ago I came back from hiatus to it, yet it seems that when I came back Seo wanted to make some hard plot moves.
Seriously I'm in "haruto should move on" faction now. But its Seo manga and as I can base my experience on suzuka which was a quite long manga, he won't move on or atleast not for good. I even stoped reading suzuka near the end, to just get
to know the ending from animesuki forums. Which was retarded imo.
Seriously Anyone know any good romance manga such as
-Video Girl Ai (Anime made me go into manga world as it only covered lke 30% of source material)
- Ichigo 100% (even though it wasn't the best plot romance ever its still few levels above seo works)
-Some other romances such as Love Hina and few less known which I wont bring here atm.
I would really read some nice romance manga to add some flavour to my other more "manly" series, but its really hard to find any good romance, with possible good artork (as I know the 70's had nice plot such as Kimagure Orange Road, even though artowrk style wasn't its best point, atleast now in modern drawing style).

Right now the only good ones out there is GE-Good Ending and Umi no Misaki. GE is like this manga but better storyline and Umi no Misaki is more light hearted and funny as well.

I have to admit it's pretty hilarious how unsurprising this "surprising twist!" is. Seriously. Even dead people knew what was going to happen in this chapter. Congratulations, Seo, you are officially a no-talent ass clown hack.

I've been lurking here for quite a while but I felt compelled to make an account after reading all the recent comments.

I don't know why you're all hating on Eba when in fact it's Seo who has butchered her character over and over again just to create more drama and crap out more chapters. I've officially lost all respect for him as an author but I have rationally summarized a few constructive criticisms below:

Well I liked it, and I think people are too harsh on Kazama, he's too good natured from what I can tell to have intentionally done anything. And funny how this was actually a surprise when the theory was first proposed. <_< Anyway, Haruto's too soft, he's going to let it go I bet, I jsut have this feeling in regards to the previous build-up chapter of how he regards Kazama as a true friend, he probably gets Eba's reasons and now that he's involved personally he'll probably do his best to let it go I feel. Not that I think it will last mind you, but that'll be the general impression I think this will be going.

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I've been lurking here for quite a while but I felt compelled to make an account after reading all the recent comments.

I don't know why you're all hating on Eba when in fact it's Seo who has butchered her character over and over again just to create more drama and crap out more chapters. I've officially lost all respect for him as an author but I have rationally summarized a few constructive criticisms below:

Spoiler:

It's a joke at this point. I can't even be bothered to take it seriously, I'm laughing it more then anything. Maybe she'll reveal her past life as a circus performer, who knows?