I would be ok with this IF they (the you-know-who crowd) could keep their mouths shut and their pants on. If I never had to know about their sexual deviance- that is, if they never brought it up and it was never a point of interest in and around actual duty- then their deviation from biological norms could remain private and between them and God.

Unfortunately, they are not content to keep it between them and God. They want EVERYONE to know, and they want to shove it down our throats, so to speak, and I have a nagging concern that they are going to utilize the joyous jubilation of this terrible CiC as a legitimizing factor in forcing their deviance on the rest of the military.

I’m SO close to meeting the physical requirements to serve, and the more I see of this garbage the more I wonder at what the hell I’m choosing to do. It’s disgusting. And all I can say is I’m glad Obama won’t be in charge forever...

"Hey everyone, those two people over there are GAY! You know, GAY! They don't look like it, but they have GAY SEX! All the time! Look! Look at them! With their dirty dirty (and private) sex lives! You know what they do? Do you know what they do? They have GAY sex! And want everyone to know! Yes they don't look that different and noboby really knew before I figured it out, but you know... They're GAY!"

Sound familiar? Because that's what you sound like. Gays just want to be left alone like everyone else, but you people won't let them.

Um, the very fact that all non-masturbatory sex acts by definition require at least two people, means that, in order to be in an otherwise committed relationship, you need to be seen with your partner(s).

So essentially what you're saying, is you have no problem imagining straight couples in depraved sex acts, but you don't like imagining gay couples performing by and large the same acts on one another...

As a veteran with 25 years in the Canadian Forces, I can assure you ther is noneed to panic. We de-criminalized homosexuality in the CF around 1995 or so. At the same time same-sex benefits ( common law marriage rights) were extended to all. The CF had gay marriage about 7 years beforethe general populace. And the effects were....nothing. Other than good soldiers being happier, feeling as a true part of the team and being able to be open about the families and relationships, there was zero detrimental efect. Relax, no one will force you to try gay sex.

"I would be ok with this IF they (the you-know-who crowd) could keep their mouths shut and their pants on. If I never had to know about their sexual deviance- that is, if they never brought it up and it was never a point of interest in and around actual duty- then their deviation from biological norms could remain private and between them and God."

Being gay is not a deviation from "biological norms." It's quite normal for a certain percentage of any given population of just about every species you'd care to name.

"Unfortunately, they are not content to keep it between them and God. They want EVERYONE to know, and they want to shove it down our throats, so to speak, and I have a nagging concern that they are going to utilize the joyous jubilation of this terrible CiC as a legitimizing factor in forcing their deviance on the rest of the military."

Why don't you just admit that you'd like them to, quite literally, shove something down your throat?

"I’m SO close to meeting the physical requirements to serve, and the more I see of this garbage the more I wonder at what the hell I’m choosing to do. It’s disgusting. And all I can say is I’m glad Obama won’t be in charge forever..."

Because Obama personally mandated everything you have a problem with and not a single other elected official had a hand in it, right?

Do you talk about your dates if you have them? Your favorite actresses? A wife or girlfriend perhaps? Do you hold her hand or kiss her in public? If any woman agreed to reproduce with you, do you talk about children or children you'd like to have someday?

If so, you are forcing your heterosexuality down everybody's throat. Gays just want to do that without being kicked out of the military or being harrassed and beaten by asses like you.

Although HushTX is obviously talking about gays, all one has to do is imagine he's talking about christians and it all sounds different:

I would be ok with this IF they could keep their mouths shut. If I never had to know about their social deviance that is, if they never brought it up and it was never a point of interest in and around actual duty then their social deviation from norms could remain private and between them and their God.

Unfortunately, they are not content to keep it between them and their God. They want EVERYONE to know, and they want to shove it down our throats, so to speak, and I have a nagging concern that they are going to utilize the joyous jubilation as a legitimizing factor in forcing their social deviance on the rest of the military.

I’m SO close to meeting the requirements to serve, and the more I see of this garbage the more I wonder at what the hell I’m choosing to do. It’s disgusting.

If he were talking about christians, it would be a very accurate description and I'd agree with him.

Hush, the reason we have to be loud about the fact that we're queer is so that we can get the same damn rights as straight people. Our quarrel's not with God, but with unjust laws and homophobic men and women. Keeping our "deviance" to ourselves would achieve nothing.

Also, we are not Voldemort. We are the LGBTQ+ community. Call us by our name, please. Otherwise, you just sound childish.

I have been serving in the military for the past 20 years, I have known at least a dozen people that I knew were gay (all active duty), I even deployed with a couple of them (you know, bunking in a tent next to them, showering next to them etc.) and I can tell you with all honesty, Mr. HushTX is an homophobic idiot.

You never do have to hear about homosexuality. It is only brought up because bigots such as yourself always make the lives of LGBT people hell once you find out. If your kind did not throw a hissy fit every time a gay person did anything, then we would never hear a word about gayness. I guarantee that.

That's strange, I know several homosexuals but none of them have ever shoved their sexuality down my throat. The sexuality really shoved down people's throats is heterosexuality; everybody is presumed to be hetero, men are asked about girlfriends, women are asked about boyfriends. Everything couple-related is His-and-Hers.

Don't you join the military to protect your country and human rights? What does your sexuality have to do with the military in the first place?

Nope, Obama won't be in charge forever, the most he can have is another four years. Then you might have a new John F Kennedy, or someone even more left-leaning (from your point of view). Wouldn't that be great?!