You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.You cannot help small men by tearing down big men.You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than your income.You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatreds.You cannot establish security on borrowed money.You cannot build character and courage by taking away a man's initiative and independence.You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. -William J. H. Boetcker

People need to be made aware. and the authorities need to be held accountable for these incidents. the dr's and the social services the judges everyone who failed this and all the other children have to be held accountable. there is just no excuse for this treatment of children.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E1rKYrP_DY

you guys just dont like it because the layout has never changed, and you want to keep it that way. You sound like the facebook users that cry and make groups boycotting facebook every time they move a button on the navbar. Quit being babies.

Karunt wrote:The possible aesthetic change is not the only possible change to the forums.

Change 1 - PHPBB2 -> PHPBB3: Completely necessary and has been put off for way too long.

Change 2 - aesthetics: The theme we are currently using with PHPBB2 is not compatible with PHPBB3. We've had the current PHPBB2 theme for a long time and I know I'm not the only one that wouldn't mind looking at something else for awhile.

Change 3 - host: We've been considering moving from our current host (which charges a monthly fee) to another host (which is provided by K-State). Obviously there is more to this decision than simply money. Special Agents, advisers, and those who have been donating to provide our current host will ultimately make the decision, but I welcome discussion from anyone who has an opinion on the subject.

Personally I think I still prefer the existing logo at the top of everything, partially due to the fact that I think it tends to balance/center everything nicely. This may no longer be an option though due to the other changes happening (and it's possible that I'm just an old geezer that's out of touch with what is most appealing to the population at large )