Bingo. This is the guy that I had in my mind when I asked that question. Noticed you also compared him to Taj Gibson. That's who I had in mind too. I think he's gonna be a great get for someone in Round 2.

Bingo. This is the guy that I had in my mind when I asked that question. Noticed you also compared him to Taj Gibson. That's who I had in mind too. I think he's gonna be a great get for someone in Round 2.

Damn Zeller putting up absolutely monster numbers. I expected him to test well in terms of speed and agility, but I didn't expect him to put up monster jump numbers as well.

His 8'10 standing reach is really poor for someone his height though and as a result I think Zeller is much more of a PF than a C at this point. He has the skills, athleticism, and his length won't punish him as much there. We all saw how he got pushed around and dominated by length when having to play inside.

I'm actually starting to warm up to Zeller as a hi/low PF. If his passing and 10-15 range is as good as advertised, i wouldn't mind having him. He's testing out pretty well athletically, and he's a 7fter in shoes.

I'm actually starting to warm up to Zeller as a hi/low PF. If his passing and 10-15 range is as good as advertised, i wouldn't mind having him. He's testing out pretty well athletically, and he's a 7fter in shoes.

Is he anything more than Jason Thompson with white skin though? Maybe a little better shooting range.

My favorites are Burke, Porter and Opadipo. Only problem is Oladipo measured in a littl bit shorter than hoped (but about what I expected if I were honest with myself) and as a result really can't be expected to play SF at all.

I have no idea what the Kings are going to do this offseason. Sell off side assets (Thornton, Hayes) for pennies on the dollar? Turn in a big chip for littler chips (DMC, Reke)? Stand pat and see what a better coach can do? Get rid of marginals (Jimmer, JJ, Salmons)?

There's just no identity to this team. And therefore no idea of what the Kings will do.

I'm actually starting to warm up to Zeller as a hi/low PF. If his passing and 10-15 range is as good as advertised, i wouldn't mind having him. He's testing out pretty well athletically, and he's a 7fter in shoes.

I think he's perfect for that role. He's a highly skilled and athletic guy. He can hit the mid range jumper with ease, pass, and clearly has the athleticism to drive by guys. Then if he gets someone undersized on him you can throw him in the post.

As a C I'm highly skeptical of him. At the center position he has terrible length, will get pushed around, is an average rebounder, and a below average shot blocker.

I'm always surprised how crappy the standing verts are for NBA prospects relative to NFL prospects. Different type of explosion I guess.

also, Shane Larkin is KILLING it.

Think about it in relation to reach. If you have an 8' reach then you need to jump 24" to touch rim, and about 30" to dunk. If you have a 9' reach, then you need to jump 12" to touch rim, and about 18-20" to dunk. If you've got a 8'10" reach and a 30" vertical jump, then you'll be clearing the rim by about a foot.

Now in the grand scheme of things, a 30" vertical jump isn't really all that impressive. Most of the "high flying" perception is an illusion. These guys are just very, very tall.

Think about it in relation to reach. If you have an 8' reach then you need to jump 24" to touch rim, and about 30" to dunk. If you have a 9' reach, then you need to jump 12" to touch rim, and about 18-20" to dunk. If you've got a 8'10" reach and a 30" vertical jump, then you'll be clearing the rim by about a foot.

Now in the grand scheme of things, a 30" vertical jump isn't really all that impressive. Most of the "high flying" perception is an illusion. These guys are just very, very tall.

Basketball players do have a "springyness" about them but it is true that their height makes them look like they're getting up higher than they really are. I just remember being surprised last year when the highest standing vert was only 38" and the 2nd highest was 34" which was the same as what a guy like Trent Williams jumped at 315lbs (Trent is a freak but still).

It makes sense that NFL athletes test out more explosively. Football is played in extremely short bursts so that immediate explosion is critical. Basketball requires requires a different type of athlete (and obviously height plays a big role).

It makes sense that NFL athletes test out more explosively. Football is played in extremely short bursts so that immediate explosion is critical. Basketball requires requires a different type of athlete (and obviously height plays a big role).

Different types of athletes for sure. Basketball players are more...elastic where as football players are more like springs. Most of the football guys have been power lifting all throughout highschool (power cleans, squats, deadlifts, etc.) and that training is meant to develop that explosive power that something like a standing vert is meant to test. Not to mention the NFL prospects are usually a few years older than the NBA guys too. I'm not really trying to make an argument here, it was just an observation.