I'm calling tough time. First of all, Portland is a large town and too small to be considered a city. Mega high unemployment and the weather here is HORRIBLE! Canned typical description in article tells me it was totally bogus. The go-to "I don't know how to describe Portland politely" phrase is "outdoorsman's paradise". That plus the chicks are all, and I mean ALL, fat. O.k. Ok, there is really good coffee and beer here but other than that it's dead. Don't move here without a job in place.

I'm calling tough time. First of all, Portland is a large town and too small to be considered a city. Mega high unemployment and the weather here is HORRIBLE! Canned typical description in article tells me it was totally bogus. The go-to "I don't know how to describe Portland politely" phrase is "outdoorsman's paradise". That plus the chicks are all, and I mean ALL, fat. O.k. Ok, there is really good coffee and beer here but other than that it's dead. Don't move here without a job in place.

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You're from there?

Oregon is a state I really want to check out because the nature is supposed to be amazing over there.

IDK why Pittsburgh made the list. It said the unemployment rate is low, but that's only because people are LEAVING. A businessman who comes to my shop recently called it a "dying city".
I've had one friend who visited there and maintains that it's awesome. Everyone else I know who's gone there said it sucks, as far as things to do and nightlife.

Besides that there's NOTHING around it. I had friends who lived in a Pittsburgh "suburb" and it was literally like I was in southern Appalachia... SO backwoods; SO backward and creepy. And not another city or fucking thing to do for like, hours. The next closest city is probably Harrisburg, and that place sucks too.

IDK why Pittsburgh made the list. It said the unemployment rate is low, but that's only because people are LEAVING. A businessman who comes to my shop recently called it a "dying city".
I've had one friend who visited there and maintains that it's awesome. Everyone else I know who's gone there said it sucks, as far as things to do and nightlife.

Besides that there's NOTHING around it. I had friends who lived in a Pittsburgh "suburb" and it was literally like I was in southern Appalachia... SO backwoods; SO backward and creepy. And not another city or fucking thing to do for like, hours. The next closest city is probably Harrisburg, and that place sucks too.

Oregon is a state I really want to check out because the nature is supposed to be amazing over there.

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No, no no. I am not from here but I live here and have a business here for about 5 years now. Best thing to do is to visit here when it really sucks like Jan-march that way the rest of the year gets better from there. Also, already have a job or a trust fund because you ain't going to find any work here unless you're some shoe design protege that Nike will snatch up or you just looooove serving coffee to people and being so broke you're hungry most of the week. 40% of those employed in Portland are employed by something related to grocery stores (not restaurants or bars, but grocery stores). No joke. It's like a ghost town during the summer because most people here have kids I guess and they're not driving them to school? I dunno, it's weird. If I had a choice (long story and I don't) I'd leave in a heartbeat.

Portland is far far less hip than anything you might be hearing about it in other cities.

IDK why Pittsburgh made the list. It said the unemployment rate is low, but that's only because people are LEAVING. A businessman who comes to my shop recently called it a "dying city".
I've had one friend who visited there and maintains that it's awesome. Everyone else I know who's gone there said it sucks, as far as things to do and nightlife.

Besides that there's NOTHING around it. I had friends who lived in a Pittsburgh "suburb" and it was literally like I was in southern Appalachia... SO backwoods; SO backward and creepy. And not another city or fucking thing to do for like, hours. The next closest city is probably Harrisburg, and that place sucks too.

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Wow, that sounds horrible.

No, no no. I am not from here but I live here and have a business here for about 5 years now. Best thing to do is to visit here when it really sucks like Jan-march that way the rest of the year gets better from there. Also, already have a job or a trust fund because you ain't going to find any work here unless you're some shoe design protege that Nike will snatch up or you just looooove serving coffee to people and being so broke you're hungry most of the week. 40% of those employed in Portland are employed by something related to grocery stores (not restaurants or bars, but grocery stores). No joke. It's like a ghost town during the summer because most people here have kids I guess and they're not driving them to school? I dunno, it's weird. If I had a choice (long story and I don't) I'd leave in a heartbeat.

Portland is far far less hip than anything you might be hearing about it in other cities.