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Thanks. It does say SL3, but I am going through the setup again, and right now I'm locked out as it's getting Sat. Info.... but I didn't see a way to activate a menu choice as to type of dish- on the H25 it looks like it might be auto-detect.

It's pretty dumb that the yellow button and the info button do the same thing now. Who was the idiot behind that stupid idea?

It's almost certainly an interim thing; migration of functions take time. I totally dislike the duplication, but trust that the programmers of the software are anything but idiots.

While migration of functions can be interim and take time, they have no place in the customer's version of a product, unless the customer is willing to make a compromise to get their hands on another desired feature sooner. Interim things belong in in-house testing, Alpha, Beta (CE), etc... that's the whole point of the development/testing process. The reflection on the programmer and responsible management is not that they are idiots, but that they lack customer experience. They have likely never dealt one-on-one with a customer and would not survive in that arena.

We joke about "if it compiles, ship it!" , but that joke rarely flys in the real world...

You keep saying that, but the yellow button has brought up closed caption options for a long time now, and it was the same 4 keystrokes to turn it on or off. Manually toggling CC was EASIER to use before the change, and it had nothing to do with macros. Because you didn't know how to bring up CC (relatively) quickly doesn't give your reason of not using it before, so the change was for the good, any merit.

I keep saying it because it's true. I probably used it 5 or 6 times ever (outside of a quick test to see if it worked) before the change. I've used it at least 6 times since the change. And I do find the change welcome despite the fact that you seem to know what is better for me personally than I do.

We turn CC on and off regularly and was concerned about what the new procedure would be like, especially as my wife often watches TV when I'm sleeping, and if she's not happy, I'm not going to be happy. Having lived with it now for 2 weeks, it really is not a big deal. Was the original "yellow button" technique easier? Yes. Is this a pain in the neck and a significant step back? No.

I keep saying it because it's true. I probably used it 5 or 6 times ever (outside of a quick test to see if it worked) before the change. I've used it at least 6 times since the change. And I do find the change welcome despite the fact that you seem to know what is better for me personally than I do.

I agree that the new Channel Banner with its drop down menus will get some DirecTV customers curious. It is a shame that its layout and contents didn't have the input of their customers.

Because Managing Recordings/Rec Mgr should have been one of the drop down menu.

No I don't "argue that for everything in the banner" you must have me confused with someone else. I'm asking what the difference is between Menu>Manage Recordings and Info>Manage Recordings. It would still be the same amount of key presses.

Agreed! Either of these suggestions would be a great improvement. If only someone would listen.

I like both suggestions as well. As far as DirecTV listening, they do but there are some things that they just want their way on regardless of how bad an idea we tell them it is. Things like the ToDo list. We used to have one button access to it but they took it away. A couple of years of complaining now and we still don't have it back.

Also there's the HD-GUI coming that we can look forward to. Who knows, this whole discussion could be moot when that arrives.

My HR21-100 has gotten extremely slow to respond to remote commands. Been like that since Saturday. Probably going to have to reboot soon. I've not seen it this slow in a loooong time.

Rebooting didn't help mine. Since the update, most of my DVRs have an unbearable lag between button presses and a response by the receiver. Then sometimes, it will have actually received all the commands and will execute them all 5 or 10 seconds later in rapid fire.

I'm also in the "CC is much worse" camp. This is a frequent use item that just got far more cumbersome. 7 buttons to turn on (would have been 6, but they placed the unneeded "DirecTV subtitles" ahead of CC) and 5 buttons to turn off. Adding in the intermittent reception of the remote signal makes it an ordeal.

CC has been around for over 20 years. We don't need a reminder that it is an available feature, we just need to be able to quickly activate and deactivate it. Personally, I'd rather the Format button be a dedicated CC toggle.

I know you and RP have stated this categorically- but could that not be changed?

Isn't there some law that requires CC have easy access?

Via jpm's iThing (pad)

Don't think the word easy will be in there, easy for one might seem difficult for another. I'm very hard of hearing and need CC all of the time so since I never turn it off, I never have to turn it on. For people who use it only part of the time, you're right that it would be nice to have easier access.

I'm also in the "CC is much worse" camp. This is a frequent use item that just got far more cumbersome. 7 buttons to turn on (would have been 6, but they placed the unneeded "DirecTV subtitles" ahead of CC) and 5 buttons to turn off. Adding in the intermittent reception of the remote signal makes it an ordeal.