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Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

Originally Posted by axioma16

The fact that "Not Myself Tonight" doesn't even cover an octave in range, is performed in a half-sung/half-spoken manner and only contains heavily edited high notes in the background, would suggest that she is already losing her voice... Or maybe she has decided to release an album that will enable her vocal chords to have a much needed rest.

It has been quoted that Linda Perry advised Christina on the album, to use her voice differently and not have to over-sing. Linda said that Christina should not be afraid to just sing without using so much power.

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

I don't get why everyone is really worked up over familiar imagery. The real question to me, is if she is really wearing leather masks etc. and using whips in her actual sex life. I would hope that the video really is some sort of homage or commentary on popular imagery for blonde female pop stars OR her commenting on her newly found sex life. If neither of those are correct, then what is the point of the video?

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

I'm hoping that the rest of the album is better. Isn't that her track record now? The singles always flopped on the charts but the album is gold. I have no problem with the video except the product placement of her fragrance. Nothing wrong with promotion but it looked tacky. Who's the guy on the bed in the last scene? Hottie!

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

Originally Posted by axioma16

Since the release of her mediocre attempts at crossing into the now lucrative 'techno/pop' genre that Lady Gaga made (undeservedly) popular two years ago, I have wondered about the state of Christina Aguilera's voice. It would seem that this is a genre favoured by singers whose vocal abilities are limited or dramatically diminished, and we should not forget that Miss Aguilera is notorious for her inability to produce what she "does" on record, while performing live.

What's with the Christina hate? Christina has had plenty of videos of her singing live and she's proven that she can reproduce the studio efforts, live.

Originally Posted by axioma16

Her tone is amazing and, as long as she is singing in the mid tenor range, her voice is very powerful, agile and elastic. However, anything above that is largely outside of her capabilities, unless it is in a very frail head voice. The fact that "Not Myself Tonight" doesn't even cover an octave in range, is performed in a half-sung/half-spoken manner and only contains heavily edited high notes in the background, would suggest that she is already losing her voice... Or maybe she has decided to release an album that will enable her vocal chords to have a much needed rest.

Stop trying to sound more intelligent than you really are. If you knew as much as you did about singing as you try to display, then you would go back, reread this statement, and figure out what's wrong with it. Here, I've helped you by highlighting the inaccurate fragment. In addition, her vocal capabilities would be anything she could produce and she can produce more than octave.

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

Originally Posted by AngelFromAbove

What's with the Christina hate? Christina has had plenty of videos of her singing live and she's proven that she can reproduce the studio efforts, live.

No, she cannot. She has to consistently alter the melodic line of songs in order to be able to perform them. In fact, she has been often criticized for her inability to hit notes in the upper tenor/alto range, or for making disastrous attempts at singing them. Her high notes are one part screaming and three parts studio wizardry. She rarely hits anything above B4 correctly, and she has often been accused of lip syncing to pre-recorded fragments of the difficult parts of her songs.

Originally Posted by AngelFromAbove

Stop trying to sound more intelligent than you really are. If you knew as much as you did about singing as you try to display, then you would go back, reread this statement, and figure out what's wrong with it. Here, I've helped you by highlighting the inaccurate fragment. In addition, her vocal capabilities would be anything she could produce and she can produce more than octave.

Don't get your knickers in a twist. My statement is perfectly valid, because it reflects the truth: she has a soprano timbre, but can only belt comfortably in the mid-tenor/upper baritone range. Most times, she can't even hit C5, for God's sake. Second, one's vocal capabilities are anything that one can produce with a solid timbre, vibrato, good tonal quality and can be sustained for more than two seconds. Thus, since her high notes are a mess, she fails miserably at singing them whenever there isn't a sound technician around to alter the pitch and improve the tonal quality, and she can barely hit these notes for a fraction of a second even in the studio, no, these frequencies are not within her capabilities.

Just because you can reach a particular pitch doesn't mean that you can do it well, or that it does have any degree of musical value. Maybe your fanaticism is the real problem, and not what you suppose to be pretension on my part.

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

Originally Posted by axioma16

No, she cannot. She has to consistently alter the melodic line of songs in order to be able to perform them. In fact, she has been often criticized for her inability to hit notes in the upper tenor/alto range, or for making disastrous attempts at singing them. Her high notes are one part screaming and three parts studio wizardry. She rarely hits anything above B4 correctly, and she has often been accused of lip syncing to pre-recorded fragments of the difficult parts of her songs.

Yes, she can. Has every performance been perfect? No. I can definitely attest to seeing performance where she has strained or missed notes, but what singer has not had some bad performances? However, she's also had several performances where she has sung, live, and she was on-key. Suffice it to say, you have not watched enough of her performances or you simply do not want to admit it, due to whatever biases you may carry about her and/or singing.

Originally Posted by axioma16

Don't get your knickers in a twist. My statement is perfectly valid, because it reflects the truth: she has a soprano timbre, but can only belt comfortably in the mid-tenor/upper baritone range.

Do you know where that is on the piano? No, you don't. That is why I pointed that out earlier. You have no clue what Tenor notes and Baritone notes are, otherwise you would not say that Christina Aguilera can hit them. You would also know that it is physiologically impossible for a female to go beyond Tenor, even if she has an extensive vocal fry.

Originally Posted by axioma16

Most times, she can't even hit C5, for God's sake. Second, one's vocal capabilities are anything that one can produce with a solid timbre, vibrato, good tonal quality and can be sustained for more than two seconds. Thus, since her high notes are a mess, she fails miserably at singing them whenever there isn't a sound technician around to alter the pitch and improve the tonal quality, and she can barely hit these notes for a fraction of a second even in the studio, no, these frequencies are not within her capabilities.

Again, you need to watch more of her videos? She can sing on-pitch, live, which means that it is within her vocal capabilities. Not to mention, vibrato is not necessary, for it to be singing. That is more misinformation you are serving.

Originally Posted by axioma16

Just because you can reach a particular pitch doesn't mean that you can do it well, or that it does have any degree of musical value. Maybe your fanaticism is the real problem, and not what you suppose to be pretension on my part.

I like Christina, but I'm not a fanatic. I just have problems with people trying to use terminology inaccurately and giving opinions based off limited sources/backing.

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

Okay here's my point of view now...

Why people always compare her to other artists ? I mean everybody copies everybody. Gaga didnt create anything, neither did beyoncé and neither did Aguilera.

The problem is that people expect much more from aguilera and even when she tries to do different things, people always criticize her. when she' doing something popular she's copying Gaga and madonna. When she goes back to basics she has a lack of inspiration... anyway.

Even tho I always supported aguilera, I have to admit that after seing the video, it's not the aguilera I like. That's all I have to say, it's not about she's going gaga or whatever.

i like the fighter mode or the B2B mode. But the trashy aguilera is not my thing. Hopefully the next singles will be more mature

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

I like the cleaned up version of Xtina. I wasn't feeling the Diirty era and I'm not feeling this. Sorry to say but this reminds me a lot of Gaga and only one person can be the incredible goddess that is Gaga.

What I don't understand is why can't this chick sell as well as Beyonce? Aguilera's voice is PHENOMENAL but her record sells pale in comparison to her competitors. The public gets it wrong everytime.

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

What I don't understand is why can't this chick sell as well as Beyonce? Aguilera's voice is PHENOMENAL but her record sells pale in comparison to her competitors. The public gets it wrong everytime.

I understand why Beyonce sells. It's not about having a great singing voice and it never has been. Beyonce is more of an entertainer (see singer/dancer) than Christina, so Beyonce looks like more of a complete package.

Also, Christina takes more risks in her music and in her image, which gives her more of an edge, but makes her less mainstream; Christina does make commercial music, but her musical style, lyrical content, or her image did not follow a trend at one point which affects her sales. Beyonce has catchier, radio/club friendly music.

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

Originally Posted by Ephemeral

I like the cleaned up version of Xtina. I wasn't feeling the Diirty era and I'm not feeling this. Sorry to say but this reminds me a lot of Gaga and only one person can be the incredible goddess that is Gaga.

Grace Jones Does Not Approve lol

But seriously I don't think someone would do that many obvious similarities in a video if it wasn't for a reason. Lady Gaga steals too, ask Roisin Murphy, Kelis, & Grace.

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

I think what X-tina wants to say with NMT video is that she can do all the "super-cool" things Lady Gaga does. She wants to proove her talent.
For the most of her fans, she doesn´t need to do it. We all know how great she is,and never mind she had a break for 4 years. We didn´t forget about her.
She slap Gaga with this song and video. Xtina show us, she can do everything thah gaga or I don´t know who can. Her biggest triomph is the main diffrence between her ang Gaga. X-tina can actually SING!

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

Originally Posted by sweet-HOT-sexy

I think what X-tina wants to say with NMT video is that she can do all the "super-cool" things Lady Gaga does. She wants to proove her talent.
For the most of her fans, she doesn´t need to do it. We all know how great she is,and never mind she had a break for 4 years. We didn´t forget about her.
She slap Gaga with this song and video. Xtina show us, she can do everything thah gaga or I don´t know who can. Her biggest triomph is the main diffrence between her ang Gaga. X-tina can actually SING!

Gaga can sing, too. Christina is a different kind of singer, but they both can sing.

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

I have seen similarities to Madonna and Gaga on Xtina's new vid but come on...Xtina is doing her thing and will def. have great success with this new project. I think this is her way of paying homage and respect to them. BTW- Xtina has a great voice and her music is nice lol

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

I love the song, and I've expecting more from her new album....I hope this will turn out to become another "Stripped", because that's one of the best Album...that I'm keep listening.....
And i cant wait for her tour...All the songs will be pop and all those beats....wohoooo

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

OMG!!

You Lost Me is AMAZING!!!

That is simply, Christina at her finest!!! It has the old-school, ballad feel that you'd think would've been from her last album, Back to Basics. However, I can totally see her talking this classic feeling song and pairing it with modern imagery.

Ah! I hope she releases this song before the Grammy deadline. It has great potential.

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

Christina is struggling to find herself. Her image makes no sense to me. Just yesterday she was on Oprah talking about how her son has changed her life and made her feel so empowered... talking about how she loves being a mother... so I'm a little confused by this video. There's nothing wrong with being risque, but she looks and acts like a $2.00 whore in this video.

Is she trying to be another Madonna with the constant reinventions? When she first came out she was a sweet little pop star on the heels of Britney, then she went the skanky route with "Dirrty," then she tried turning herself into Pink circa "Misundaztood" (even stealing away Linda Perry), then she went "wholesome retro" with Back to Basics, and now she's back to being an in your face slut. What is her real image?

Also, is it just me or does it sounds like her jaw is clenched when she sings? She definitely has talent, but sometimes she just sounds weird. She tries to do too many vocal tricks with all the riffs and runs to the point that some songs (her covers in particular) are almost unrecognizable. Less is more.

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

When she came out she said she wanted to be a blend of Mariah and Madonna, and I think this is what she's been doing. I do have to agree NMT is one of her worst singles, hopefully she'll release something way better as a second single to save this upcoming album.