On 5/15/07, To Don't Get Ripped Off wrote: I WISH IT WAS THE LAW NO MORE BREEEDING OF ANY KINDS OF BIRDS!!!!!! TO MANY IN RESUCES WHO NEED FOREVER HOMES BREEDERS JUST WANT TO MAKE A BUCK NO CARE WHAT HAPPENES TO POOR BIRDS AFTER THEY HAVE THEIR MONEY IT IS SAD THE LAWS NEED TO CHANGE!!!!!> I agree with you 150&37;. You are totally right, you and Greylady. > Whats soooo wrong with keeping the species the same???????? Hello. > People are so friggen greedy and yet there are so many poor poor > birds out there who are getting abused or who aren't appreciated. > So damn sad> > > On 5/13/07, Don't Get Ripped Off wrote: >> GreyLady, You make a VERY Good point!>> One vendor, in the past year or so, just one, has poisoned the >> market with absurb claims and trumped up prices, not on even >> pretty, but ordinary and even HOMELY hybrid macaws! Before them, >> this wasn't particularly an issue as the average prices of tame, >> weaned baby hybrid macaws were as follows, starting at the bottom >> of the heap of desirability:>> Miligold - (garbage hybrid macaws) $700 to $750>> Calico - (garbage right down there with Miligolds) $750 to $800.>> Shamrock - (nasty & nippy - the worst of both species) $850 to $900>> 2nd generation of any of the above - not worth a dime more>> Harlequin (better temperment then the 3 above) $1,000>> Catalina - $1,000 to $1,200>> Ruby - $1,000 to $1,200>> Verde - $1,000 to $1,200>> Milihy - $1,000 to $1,200>> >> 2nd Generation>> Camelot (red) $1,000 to $1,200>> Camelot (orange) $1,500>> Camelot (yellow) $1,800 to $2500 (yellow color affects price)>> Rubalina - overpriced no matter what>> Catalina - $1200>> >> 3rd Generation:>> Capri - color depends on color of parents - same as Camelots>> Same goes for the rest.>> the risk you take is putting a 2nd generation back to a pure >> species and having the offspring turn out looking like the species >> they were bred back to. This is WRONG!>> >> Have Fun! >> Gotta Run>> >> >> >> >> >> On 5/13/07, GreyLady wrote: >>> The difference here is it can >>> be big money for the irresponsible, low life, money grubbing >>> breeders who do. There is still no long term study into how this >>> kind of mixing might affect health and behavior, down the line. >>> I also think it's irresponsible to allow these breeders to make >>> money from this practice. The the demand for them would dry up, >>> there would be no reason for them to continue doing it. And it >>> gets even worse. There are breeders who are breeding hybrids. >>> These are not people who care one whit about anything beyond >>> lining their pockets.