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Re: Summer League schedules and rosters...

Given the insane amount of talent that went undrafted, along with the clearly opportunities to trade down for more picks, I just don't get how the Pacers can afford to take a pass on both counts. These kids would be an ideal way to fill out a roster with cheap contracts and more chances in the "surprise development" lottery.

If the Pacers could have moved DJones to OKC for the trade down, then filled up the space of Jones, Watson, and Head with cheaper kids, plus a few more cheap rooks to cover the space opened if/when the team moves the contracts of Troy, Dun, and Ford, you could actually field a pretty low salary figure team, even if you brought back in one guy making $15m for those expirings.

It's frustrating for me that due to iffy drafting and dealing the last couple of years I'm seeing more and more favorite prospects on other teams, which takes my interest to those teams too.

Sorry to say that I'm more interested in TWill, Tweety and Zoubek than George, Lance and Rolle...not even bringing Favors and D James into the equation.

The good news - one game on July 5th holiday, next 2 at 7pm after work. Then should I go in late on Friday?

Re: Summer League schedules and rosters...

Given the insane amount of talent that went undrafted, along with the clearly opportunities to trade down for more picks, I just don't get how the Pacers can afford to take a pass on both counts. These kids would be an ideal way to fill out a roster with cheap contracts and more chances in the "surprise development" lottery.

If the Pacers could have moved DJones to OKC for the trade down, then filled up the space of Jones, Watson, and Head with cheaper kids, plus a few more cheap rooks to cover the space opened if/when the team moves the contracts of Troy, Dun, and Ford, you could actually field a pretty low salary figure team, even if you brought back in one guy making $15m for those expirings.

It's frustrating for me that due to iffy drafting and dealing the last couple of years I'm seeing more and more favorite prospects on other teams, which takes my interest to those teams too.

Sorry to say that I'm more interested in TWill, Tweety and Zoubek than George, Lance and Rolle...not even bringing Favors and D James into the equation.

You assume that the Pacers didn't try to do what you suggested. Then you assume that if they had, it would've worked out better for them. You also seem to assume that they don't have any other trades in the works that have to wait until after July.

Re: Summer League schedules and rosters...

You assume that the Pacers didn't try to do what you suggested. Then you assume that if they had, it would've worked out better for them. You also seem to assume that they don't have any other trades in the works that have to wait until after July.

Your frustrations are based on a lot of empty assumptions, IMO.

Expect this to get bumped regularly.

And btw, when you say "they tried but couldn't", that's the same as defending me as the starting center for the Pacers. I tried to do a great job but couldn't, and since I tried then it means things are okay.

No, if they tried to bring in people or make deals and were unable to it means they don't have the negotiation and people skills required to make things happen.

It's not just "Indianapolis". They got Saras to sign with the team, players talk about the Bird aura all the time. Maybe agents and/or players are getting tired of whatever it is they run into with the Pacers. Maybe it's the same issue Stan Van Gundy ran into. Maybe it's the same issue Mel Daniels ran into.

The Pacers NEED a PG and everyone knows it. So why wouldn't Tweety's agent drive him toward Indy as the best chance to make the NBA? Ditto for many other players.

Re: Summer League schedules and rosters...

Russell Robinson (PG from that 2008 Jayhawks team) has been added to the roster, according to Ridiculous Upside. That's it so far.

i was just going to post that. not a bad addition, i think. our roster is almost full, but we do need a 3rd pg, and russell robinson fits the bill as a tough pg defender. his knock is that he's offensively challenged, however he did shoot 37% from 3pt range last season in the dleague. if he plays well, he'll have a decent chance at making the team. it's said that he was a late cut for the cavs last season.

regarding torrance - ridiculous upside has 3 pg's listed for the bobcats' team (pargo, collins, and clemente), so it seems unlikely that torrance will be playing for them too.