"Recently I was in Washington meeting with a very famous astronaut. Everyone would
know this persons name . . . This particular astronaut had during his career been in
possession of a very specific piece of incontrovertible piece of evidence related to UFOs.
It is something that if disclosed would clear and definitive. This astronaut described how
he had approached and worked directly with President Clintons Secretary of Defense
William Cohen to look into and retrieve from classified projects this specific piece of
evidence - of that which he had all the specific details. . .the words used by this
astronaut to me were "there was an inordinate large amount of money and personal time
by the Secretary of Defense William Cohen was spent to locate this evidence, and he was
never given access to it." Dr. Steven Greer Interview with
Art Bell August 30, 2001

"But if (John) Podesta were ever to become a Washington celebrity, this married
father of three would probably be acclaimed for his formidable talents as a chef, his
compulsive attention to detail and his fanatical devotion to The X-Files . . .
As White House press secretary Mike McCurry puts it, "John can get totally maniacal
and phobic on certain subjects. He's been known to pick up the phone to call the Air Force
and ask them what's going on in Area 51." Washington Post,
September 30, 1998

"It was known among the high CIA people, and the people who had contact with these
people, that the Clintons were on the prowl for UFOs. Bill Clinton had been asking anyone
who would listen to him, to tell him the secret. You know, he would get some Admiral in
there, and say "By the way, tell me the UFO secret." They would just look at him
like "What planet are you from?" William Laparl, who worked with the CIA in the
early days of the Clinton Administration

During a late November 1995 address in Ireland, President Clinton took time during his
speech to express frustration at not being able to get any information on UFOs. In
particular, Clinton expressed frustration about the 1947 crash of an unknown craft near
Roswell, New Mexico. This rumored UFO crash was a case that the Clinton administration had
gone to great lengths to uncover.

"If the United States Air Force did recover alien bodies" in Roswell, the
President told the Irish audience, "the Air Force didnt tell me about it, and I
would like to know."

In response the Presidents "I would like to know" comment, Clinton
received a letter from Paul Davids, the executive producer and co-writer of the movie
"Roswell." Davids wrote a recollection of his letter to the President.

"I sent the President a two-page letter urging a change of policy regarding the
secrecy and classification of documents surrounding the UFO issue in so many cases. I
enclosed four videotapes: The movie Roswell (of which I was Executive Producer
and co-writer), and three documentaries I prepared that present UFO evidence: Down
in Roswell (a compendium of news coverage through the years on the Roswell
Incident); Reply to the Air Force Report on the Roswell Incident (an
indictment of the Air Force Mogel Balloon report), and Golden
Anniversary UFO Briefing for the White Sands Missile range Pioneers. (Based on a UFO
presentation to the 50th Anniversary of the White Sands Missile Range and
Proving Grounds.)"

It has been the general practice, since 1977, for the White House to re-route all UFO
letters to NASA or the Air Force. The policy was started by President Jimmy Carter, who
because of his open discussion of his UFO sighting, had been flooded with thousands of
letters on UFOs. Unable to answer all the letters, the White House began the process of
moving the Air Force or NASA who had the staff, and UFO backgrounds to answer the letters.

Clintons treatment of Davids letter was different. The positive reply
signed by the President showed clearly that the Clinton held a genuine interest in the
subject of the 1947 Roswell crash. Davids recalled the Clinton White House handling of his
letter.

"To my surprise, a brief reply was sent to me by the President immediately
following the date of Richard Hoaglands Washington Press Club Conference inwhich
Hoagland cited lunar anomalies that support possible conclusions of ancient alien
artifacts on those worlds. The reply was overnighted by Priority Mail in a priority
envelope. (Previous correspondence from Bill Clinton was always by standard first class
mail.) My letter to the President had been marked Personal and Confidential. His reply was
marked Personal."

"The President expressed gratitude and appreciation for my having sent him the
videocassettes, calling it generous and thoughtful on my part, and he passed on
Hillarys best wishes to me as well."

Clintons positive and personal response to Davids letter was consistent
with a commitment he had made to the subject of UFOs while still running for President.
That commitment, made in a letter to a citizen, indicated that Clinton was truly
interested in the UFO subject. The commitment was the only time a U.S. Presidents
has addressed the UFO phenomena in writing prior to being elected.

Writing on his personal letterhead, then President-elect Clinton wrote the following
UFO pledge to a constituent named Michael,

"Thank-you for voicing your opinion on UFOs. A Clinton-Gore administration will
seek to meet the needs of the U.S. and other nations while moving towards our long term
space objectives, including human exploration of the solar system. We will also stress
efforts to learn about other planets which improves our understanding of our own world,
and stimulates advances in computers, sensors, image processing, and communications."

President Clinton came to the White House with an openness about things that might go
beyond the physical world he could see. Hillary Clinton described him as, "insatiably
curious about everything." Dick Morris, Clintons strategist who was generally
given credit for both Clinton election victories, described Clintons religious
beliefs as "somewhat of a mystical spirituality."

Clinton was also known to have a strong interest in science fiction and the Sci-Fi Channel.
Days before District Cablevision of Washington was set to add Sci-Fi Channel to its basic
package, Dick Ross, a VP with USA Networks Inc., parent company of cable's Sci-Fi Channel
received a call from the White House. The official wanted to know wanted to know how the
president could receive the cable network at the White House, as well as his retreat at
Camp David.

The White House was quickly wired, and Ross got the OK to descramble the channel's
signal for the Camp David satellite dish, as the area was not yet wired for cable. The
Sci-Fi channel was "really pretty flattered" at the Presidents interest.

Clinton appeared to believe that things beyond the physical could affect his success as
President. He shared, for example a habit with Ronald Reagan in that he was reluctant to
ever talk about victory, or victory plans, before winning an election, figuring that this
loose talk would change the result of the election.

Author Jeffery Toobin wrote that Clintons friends "knew Clinton was actually
a superstitious man, a collector of rabbits feet and lucky pennies, which he ( like
President Reagan before him had done) meticulously placed in his pocket each day."
This belief in the unseen undoubtedly had made Clinton much more open to the existence of
UFOs, and UFOs is a subject the President seemed very interested in.

Support for Clintons strong interest in UFOs can be found in many the UFO
comments that he made during his two administrations. ( see Appendix Presidential UFO
Trash Talk for a complete list) Of the many comments, probably the most open and dramatic
was a series of UFO answers President Clinton provided during an July 15, 1996 interview
with MSNBC host Tom Brokaw.

Brokaw had begun a new show called InterNight that involved providing an
Internet link to take questions, and to broadcast the interview live over the net. One of
the 8,000 questions that came in over the Internet for Clinton Brokaw chose one dealing
with the just released movie "Independence Day" about invading
extraterrestrials. Clintons openness on the subject was something never seen with
any President before him. The exchange went as follows,

MR. BROKAW: Here's a question from the Internet, one more -- Independence Day, the
movie -- could we really fight these guys off, or what, Mr. President?

THE PRESIDENT: I loved it. I loved it and --

MR. BROKAW: A lot of people did, apparently.

THE PRESIDENT: Mr. Pullman came and showed it. I thought he made a good president. And
we watched the movie together, and I told him after it was over he was a good president,
and I was glad we won. And it made me wonder if I should take flying lessons.

But, yes, I think we'd fight them off. We find a way to win. That's what America does
-- we'd find a way to win if it happened.

The good thing about Independence Day is there's an ultimate lesson for that -- for the
problems right here on Earth. We whipped that problem by working together with all these
countries. And all of a sudden the differences we had with them seemed so small once we
realized there were threats that went beyond our borders. And I wish that we could think
about that when we deal with terrorism and when we deal with weapons proliferation -- the
difference between all these other problems. That's the lesson I wish people would take
away from Independence Day.

Even though the President had the interest and will to take on the UFO problem, he
found that once elected, that he and his elected officials were being cut out of the
government UFO process. The President found himself forced to gather information on the
subject from researchers outside the government, intelligence, and military. These
outsiders were given the green light to brief Clintons top staffers.

This situation of being exiled from the information necessary to deal with the issue
caused the Clinton great frustration. Years later Sarah McClendon, a senior White House
reporter, substantiated the Presidents great frustration over UFOs, and the cause
for it.

McClendon told Dr. Greer that she had, at one point, put the question of UFO secrecy to
Clinton. She asked the President why he didnt just do something to disclose the
truth about UFOs. McClendon said that the President leaned over to her and in response to
her question said, "Sarah, theres a secret government within the government,
and I have no control over it."

Moreover, according to another story told to Dr. Greer by an Deputy Assistant to the
President by the name of Kevin, not only was the President not in the loop on UFOs, and
totally unable to force a disclosure, but he even feared for his life over the issue.
Greer recounted the story as it was told to him, in early 1994 following a briefing he had
given to the Presidents CIA Director James Woolsey in December 1993.

"A friend of the President came to my home, after I had met with CIA Director
James Woolsey. Now this is a guy who is sort of a democratic party big wig. He said,
"Steve, I dont think we can do this, although we support the
objectives." (of the Disclosure proposal)

"I said, Why not? Now this guy is a big kidder. I thought he was
joking.

"He said, Well, were convinced that if the President does what your
asking him to do, and what youve asked his CIA Director to do, hell end up
like Jack Kennedy."

"I went, ha ha ha." "Then he said, Im serious.
He was not joking. Theres a lot of fear, and a lot of intimidation."

Kevin had been a close friend of both Dr. Greer, and the President. Kevin had lived at
the White House for months on end during the first Clinton administration. When Greer
provided a briefing package for the President, it had been Kevin who had done two UFO
briefings for Clinton. Greer recounted Kevins efforts to brief the President on
UFOs:

President Clinton received a briefing from us in 1993, and then again in 1994. A
friend of mine who lived at the White House for months on end, went through those
materials with President Clinton. President Clinton was also very upset that he was not
getting intelligence information on this.

Now, Kevin was saying that Clinton had seen the information, but was unable to help.
The message back from Clinton was, "I cant do this but you can."

The perceived threats towards the President did not completely immobilize Clinton on
the issue. It was not as if Clintons search for UFO truth ended, or that he began a
passive wait in the oval office hoping someone would come in and tell him what was going
on. He did make some moves such as, on April 17, 1995, when took steps to a more open
government, that he hoped would indirectly help the UFO disclosure movement.

What Clinton did was to sign Executive Order 12958, which directed that all government
records of historical value and those 25 years or older be immediately reviewed and
declassified, unless it meet one of nine narrowly-defined exemptions. Clintons
Executive Order required that all these records be reviewed, or exempted from
declassification by April 2000. It was hoped that this declassification would open up the
UFO documents everyone was seeking.

Those who were pushing for the declassification of UFO documents, like Rockefeller,
were quick to react positively to the Presidents move. Rockefeller wrote his
congratulations to Gibbons over the Executive order draft and its tie-in to the UFO/ETI
issue.

"The draft executive order revising the national policy on classification of
documents is a major step forward and those who are responsible for bringing it about are
certainly to be congratulated . . . In large measure, my concern with government
information involving extraterrestrial intelligence was stimulated by the widespread
public belief that the government was withholding information about UFO incidents. If the
proposed new policy goes into effect, reasonable people should be assured that the
government is making available information it has on an orderly basis."

As 1995 moved along, however, that the Executive Order did not frighten those who held
the UFO secrets. The continued silence of "those in the know who constitutionally
were obligated to brief Clinton" showed they were not about to voluntarily provide
him the UFO story.

Another thing that Clinton did to try and obtain answers to the UFO mystery was to
begin tasking the heads of various departments within his government to bring him the
answer to the UFO mystery. In addition, he opened the White House doors so that almost
every one of his key cabinet members and friends were given UFO briefing from
knowledgeable members of the public. People like Greer, Rockefeller, and Farley moved in
to provide UFO information and briefings.

One of the first cabinet members to be tasked with searching out answers to the UFO
problem was Associate Attorney General Webster Hubbell. Hubbell was a close friend, and
golfing buddy with Bill Clinton. The two had done their Christmas eve shopping together
for years. Hubbell had also been Hillary Clintons former law partner at the Rose law
firm in Little Rock. There he and Vince Foster had battled successfully to have Hillary
brought into the firm as an associate.

Hubbell revealed the UFO mission Clinton had tasked him within his 1997 memoir "Friends
in High Places".

It was not the first time Webster had been given a tough task by Bill Clinton. Back in
the Arkansas days for, Dick Morriss polls for then Governor Clinton were showing
constant high negatives for Hillary and it was determined this was costing Clinton votes.

During a golf game with Hubbell, Clinton sent Webster on the mission that everyone
including himself was too frightened to do. Hubbell was to go and convince Hillary that
she should change her name to Clinton to correct the high negatives showing up in the
polls. Hubbell did as he was told.

When it came to the later mission, Clinton was interested in finding out about UFOs
which interested him, and the death of JFK which really interested him as Kennedy had been
his idol since he had shaken hands with him at 16 just months before he was assassinated.
Hubbell wrote that Clinton said, "if I put you over at Justice I want you to find the
answers to two questions for me, One- who killed JFK. And two- are there UFOs?"

"Clinton was dead serious," Hubbell wrote, "I had looked into both but
wasn't satisfied with the answers I was getting." It was later revealed that Hubbell
had even gone to NORAD headquarters to get an answer for the President, but there too, he
had run up against a brick wall of denial.

According to William Laparl, who was working with the CIA during the period, Hubbell
didnt have much of a chance in getting the answer to the UFO secret. "You know
what people thought of the Clinton people?" said Laparl. "Zero. They figured
these people would be around for 4 years and 8 years at the worst, and thats it . .
. They tried to get Webster Hubbell, to ask questions. No one is going to tell that guy
anything. Can you see the Chief of Naval Operations saying Ya Webster, heres
the story."

The public airing, by Hubbell, that Clinton had an obsession about UFOs and that he had
asked Hubbell to flush out the answers caused some embarrassment at the White House. Mike
McCurry, the Presidents Press Secretary, immediately faced the question of
confirming or denying what Hubbell had written in his book about the Presidents UFO
search.

The question came from Deborah Orin, a White House reporter who wrote for the New
York Post. Orin was a hard questioning reporter who was not popular in the White
House. The White House considered her as spending too much time focusing on tabloid type
stories.

Orin had investigated and asked questions about stories such as the claims being made
by former FBI agent Gary Aldrich who claimed he had witnessed all manner of scandalous
things going on in the White House while he had worked there.

Orin asked many questions on the Lewinsky scandal, and had pressed hard to find out
about a memo chastising White House staffers for writing bad checks. This zeal to go after
the White House jugular scared many connected to the White House. Lanny Davis, for
example, who had been the chief Clinton defender on TV talk shows regarding the Lewinsky
affair, was so afraid of Orin he made it a policy never to talk to her.

Even though McCurry was known as "spinmaker extraordinaire," the problem of
answering the Hubbell UFO question was not simple. Not only did McCurry have to answer the
question, but he had to do it without putting Hubbell down. This was because Hubbell had
been subpoenaed to testify about the WhiteWater scandal that was dogging the Clintons.
Hubbell, according to the Clintons Whitewater partner James McDougall, knew
"where the bodies were buried," so the Clinton White House had to avoid saying
anything that would make Hubbell angry.

McCurry, on the other hand, was good at avoiding questions he didnt wish to
address. As Deborah Orin, who had known McCurry for 15 years, described it,

"If he didnt want to address a sensitive question, he would deflect it,
duck it, or dismiss it. He would needle the person who asked it. What he wouldnt do
is provide a straight answer. It was an attempt to marginalize reporters who asked
embarrassing questions."

The tact that McCurry used to escape the Orins question about the Hubbell UFO
comments was brilliant. What he did was to use the same technique that has been used
against UFOs questions by various government agencies for over 50 years. He mocked the
subject of UFOs, and thus avoided having to discuss the Presidents involvement.
Secondly, he employed a tactic that the Clinton administration had done with other
damaging revelations such as the Jennifer Flowers story, and the Dick Morris
"lovechild scandal." McCurry attacked each as if they were tabloid fodder than
he shouldnt have to address.

When Orin put forward the question of Hubbell comments that he had been tasked to look
into UFOs, McCurry responded by referring to an alien that had appeared on the front cover
of the Weekly World News newspaper tabloid shaking hands with the President. The
humorous issue with the picture of Clinton and the alien, ran six months before the
Clinton 1992 election victory, and it headlined the story that the alien was backing
Clinton for the election. Playing off Orins interest in tabloid type stories McCurry
stated,

"No. We have a regular briefing in the Oval Office with this space alien that
some tabloids report. (Laughter.) Maybe the New York Post hasn't reported that, but we
asked the space creature to look into that story."

Orin was not put off by the answer. She rephrased her question."Did he ask
Hubbell to find out about those two issues?" McCurry again bypassed the question
saying, "I have no idea and I'm not going to respond to specific things in books that
are written."

Orin considered McCurrys refusal to address the Clinton/Hubbell UFO questions as
"an all out stonewall." As for the rest of the press sitting quiet while McCurry
walked around the UFO question, Orin commented "they rolled over and played
dead." The White House correspondents, according to author Howard Kurtz, did not
defend Orin as they would then "risk losing whatever little access they had."

Files from the Clinton Office for Science and Technology Policy showed that
Clintons Science Advisor, Jack Gibbons, had also been involved in attempting to get
an answer to the UFO mystery for the Clinton White House. The particular investigation
that Gibbons office undertook related to UFOs concerning the crash of a mysterious
object near Roswell, New Mexico in July 1947.

To fulfill his role for the President, Gibbons tasked the Air Force to do a full
investigation of the Roswell incident. He also cooperated with a General Accounting Office
investigation, initiated by New Mexico Congressman Steven Schiff, into the events
surrounding the 1947 New Mexico crash.

History does not yet tell us for sure whether Clinton pressured Gibbons to investigate
UFOs. It was a well known fact that Gibbons did not like the subject. "Gibbons
didnt want to touch it," said William Laparl. "He didnt want
anything to do with it, but he did it because he had to. . . they didnt want
anything to do with it. Because Rockefeller was so important to the Clintons and Clinton
asking for something, some of the agencies did minor little things."

It is now fairly clear, however, that although UFOs may have been a pet interest of the
President, it was not a subject that brought Gibbons any joy. This Gibbons distaste for
the subject of UFOs is spelled out in many of the OSTP documents, and also by people who
dealt with Gibbons on the issue of UFOs.

Dick Farley was one of the insiders who stated Gibbons was not happy with his "UFO
assignment" for the President. Farley worked as a member of the Rockefeller team that
first briefed Gibbons on UFOs in 1993 following his election victory. Farley wrote that
Gibbons "maintained the posture that his efforts were really to protect
the President by keeping him away from UFO issues and Laurance Rockefellers
inquiries."

Gibbons stated right up front in the first briefing with Rockefeller that "he was
an agnostic, and that if there was some evidence there he would be glad to look at it.
But, he added, at that point he had seen no such evidence."

In late 1995 Laurance Rockefeller sent his draft UFO letter intended for President
Clinton to Jack Gibbons for his input. Gibbons reviewed the letter for Rockefeller and
wrote his comments in the margins of the draft letter. The comments Gibbons wrote in the
margins clearly showed his level of disbelief.

The draft letter suggested that Gibbons OSTP office be a "coordinator for
government information about ETI and UFOs." Gibbons scribbled in the margin,
"Please, no!"

At the end of the letter Gibbons wrote what appeared to be his conclusion to the whole
UFO involvement of his OSTP office, and the Rockefeller UFO case.

open invitation to the nuts

overwhelm OSTP

no evidence

The biggest indicator that Gibbons did not share the Presidents love of UFOs came
in an August 1995 letter that Jack Gibbons wrote to the President. It was just days before
the President was scheduled to receive the long awaited briefing on UFOs from Laurance
Rockefeller. Gibbons wrote like a man who had tried to save the company from collapse, but
was now announcing to the owner that the company was broke. Gibbons letter to
President Clinton was an acknowledgment that, despite his best efforts, Rockefeller had
made it around him, and was now going to sell UFOs to the President in person. Gibbons
outlined his displeasure with the UFO subject, and how things had turned out.

"Soon after you were inaugurated Les Aspin and Mel Laird referred Laurance to
me concerning the famous Roswell incident, dating from 1947, in which UFO
buffs claimed a flying saucer crashed near the town of Roswell, New Mexico. . .I persuaded
Rockefeller not to bother you with this issue but instead to let me talk to defense
officials to see if there was anything to the story. . . the bottom line isthat
all evidence points to a failed U.S. Air Force balloon experiment, and no evidence of a
Flying saucer or cover-up conspiracy. . . Rockefeller may thank you for the
openness of the Administration, including his ability to work with me. . .he knows that we
are trying to be helpful in responding to his concerns about UFOs. . .but Ive
made it no secret that we must not be too diverted from more earthly imperatives."

Besides the members of Clintons staff like Hubbell and Gibbons who had been given
"UFO jobs," we now know that a whole series of close Clinton staffers were
receiving UFO briefing from a variety of sources.

Some, like Clinton Press Secretary Dee Dee Myers, took the UFO information she had
received and went on to be a media consultant for the movie "Contact." This was
the 1997 movie that included a clip of President Clinton announcing that the first
Extraterrestrial contact had been made by astronomers. It was a video clip that had been
carefully reworked to make it appear like an announcement of the discovery of an
extraterrestrial message. It was in reality only a statement made in August 1996 by
President Clinton regarding the discovery of possible bacterial evidence found in a
Martian meteor. The Presidential clip, although clearly faked to be something it was not,
produced almost no hostile response or legal action from the Clinton White House.

Other Clinton press secretaries were also dragged into the UFO mess. Most appeared to
be facing the questions against their will. Joe Lockhart, for example, when approached at
a White House reception about UFOs for the second time by a friend of reporter Sarah
McClendon made it clear he no longer wished to discuss the subject. Lockhart then went to
the far side of the room where he remained for the remainder of the reception.

Mike McCurry usually handled the subject with caustic or humorous comments. An example
of this occurred when asked during a news conference by one reporter asked if the
President might be going to Roswell. McCurry replied, " I didnt say a thing.
No, we dont need to go there because we were there in the flying saucer
yesterday."

In 1996 McCurry faced numerous UFO questions. The first ones came just following the
blockbuster movie "Independence Day," where invading aliens come to earth and
blow up the White House as part of their attack. A reporter from the "Florida
Today" newspaper asked McCurry if the White House had any plan for an alien
invasion attack if it were to come. McCurry replied that there were no plans.

Further inquiries by the reporters about a possible "Independence Day" scenario
led McCurry to say that if the aliens did attack, "I just hope its one of those
days when Whitewater or the FBI files have dominated the news."

Shortly after this questioning about "Independence Day" Bill and
Hilary returned to vacation in the Tetons where they had received their UFO briefing the
year before from Laurance Rockefeller. The vacation also came only days after President
Clinton read his statement on the South Lawn of the White House announcing that scientists
had found a Martian meteorite that showed possible signs of biological life. All these
factors seemed to come together for a great UFO one liner when McCurry was asked if the
President planned to head back to Washington early as he had the year before.

He will hold to that tradition. The only thing that would compel a high public
profile is if space aliens came to Washington and destroyed the White House. (Laughter.)
That would probably compel him to come out of his blissful vacation mode.

The briefings for Clinton administration members started even before the President took
office. Part of this was due to the stories going around that Clinton was a fan of UFOs.
"The Clinton people were personally interested before they showed up," said
William Laparl. "I know for a fact that before this investigation Clinton may have
been asking Gibbons to find out stuff before even Rockefeller got heavily involved . . .
Thats sort of normal for a new President "Give me all the secrets."

The first of many briefings was an offer of a UFO briefing to the Clinton White House
from former Nixon Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird. At the urging of Laurance
Rockefeller, Laird wrote to his good friend Les Aspin, the Clinton Defense
Secretarys designee, offering to brief him on UFOs.

Also called in by Rockefeller to help with the White House UFO briefing Initiative was
the famous evangelist Billy Graham - a man who claimed friendships with many U.S.
Presidents. Graham had earlier spoken of his belief in extraterrestrial life in a book he
had written about angels, and had supplemented his statement about extraterrestrial life
in an interview that he had given on Clintons Inauguration Day to interviewer David
Frost.

Rockefeller wrote Graham that he would like Graham to co-sign a letter to the President
"requesting that he review the present secret classification of government
information pertaining to UFOs and related phenomena." Rockefeller told Graham in his
letter that he was considering sending copies to the Secretary General of the landmark
1992 Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro Maurice F. Strong, Secretary-General of the United
Nations Perez de Cuellar, and former U.S. President Jimmy Carter as other possible
signatories to the letter.

Graham, although supportive of the efforts to gain declassification for the UFO
subject, turned down the offer to sign the letter to President Clinton. He wrote
Rockefeller,

"Naturally, I was most interested to hear of your desire to get
declassification of documents changed so that they will be available to researchers and
those with an interest in the so-called UFOs, etc. I think you are exactly right, that
since they are reviewing the whole classification process, many documents will probably
become available that have not previously.

I also appreciate your invitation to me to be a part of those signing such a letter of
request to the President. However, over the years I have mad it a policy not to co-sign
such letters, but keep my contacts with presidents on a purely, personal, one-on-one,
private basis. In this way I have an opportunity to discuss many issues and subjects over
the years with nobody knowing about it, no publicity, and they have the assurance that I
will not discuss what we talked about. . .I hope you will understand."

The UFO briefings given to White House staff did not stop at Les Aspin. Bruce Lindsey,
Clintons legal counsel, Arkansas friend, and key figure behind containing the Monica
Lewinsky story, was briefed on the subject of UFOs by Dr. Steven Greers Project
Starlight staff. Lindsey was so close to the President he was called "Clintons
shadow" following him wherever he went. Nothing ever became public about how Lindsey
reacted or what efforts he made to help the Clinton administration battle UFO secrecy.

Lindsey was one of the Arkansas Clinton inner circle who helped pick many of the
cabinet members for Clinton during the transition in 1992-93. He may have been a part of a
group of "close associates" of President Clinton who were briefed in Little Rock
after Clinton realized he was being stonewalled on his UFO inquiries. The briefer to this
group of Clinton associates was UFO investigator Richard Hoagland.

Although Hoagland was schooled in UFOs, he was probably more famous for his work on the
Cydonia region of Mars, and the appearance there of a handmade "face." Clinton,
and some of his associates, had a interest in possible life on Mars as well.

Both Bill and Hillary had made statements and jokes about life on Mars. In August 1996,
Clinton even appeared on the south lawn of the White House to announce that life might
have been found on Mars. Speaking of a meteorite that had been found to possibly contain
evidence of fossilized bacteria, Clinton said:

Today, rock 84001 speaks to us across all those billions of years and millions of
miles. It speaks of the possibility of life. If this discovery is confirmed it will surely
be one of the most stunning insights into our universe that science has ever uncovered.
Its implications are as far-reaching and awe-inspiring as can be imagined.

President Clinton even threw in an indirect reference to the "alien invasion"
concept in describing new proposed robot mission to the red planet. On July 4, 1996, a
little more than a month before, the movie "Independence Day" had been released
in the United States. The movie deal with the theme of invading aliens who travel to
Washington where the blow up the White House. When Clinton spoke of the next trip to Mars,
he spoke of a return invasion. "I should tell you," said the President,
"that the first mission is scheduled to land on Mars, on July 4, 1997--Independence
Day."

Following the Clinton Mars announcement, it became public that Clinton advisor Dick
Morris, described by Time as "The Man Who Has Clinton's Ear," had already
shared the news with his mistress. Morris told the 37-year-old prostitute Sherry Rowlands,
the news that there was life on Mars, but that the information was a "military
secret." This had occurred one full week before NASA and Clinton went public with the
news.

Rowlands was told that she was only one of seven people in the world that knew there
was life on Mars. This premature disclosure meant that Clinton and Morris were discussing
the meteorite discovery, and its critical meaning, long before it was made public.

Hoaglands briefing of the Clinton people was first made public in a interview
Hoagland conducted with radio host Art Bell. It received very little attention at the
time, due partly to disbelief that a group attached to the President would be gathered
together in Little Rock, to obtain UFO information that the President should have been
able to get with a phone call.

According to Hoaglands account of the briefing, He gave the briefing over two
nights. "The first night went well, the second night was headed-off, and attendees
were told that Hoagland had left for Texas."

In 1998 White House reporter Sarah McClendon ran a story stating that Clintons
key National Security Advisor Anthony Lake had also received a briefing on UFOs. Lake was
confronted about his knowledge of UFOs story during an appearance on the PBS Diane Rehm
talk show. Lake was so flustered with the question (which centered on his knowledge of
Roswell - a case the Clinton administration had spend a lot of effort investigating) that
he literally provided no answer at all. Diane Rehm was forced to step in and talk to the
caller.

Then following a speech Lake gave in April 1998 at Princeton University, he was asked
directly about the McClendon story that during his term as National Security Advisor to
Clinton he had been briefed about UFOs. This time, Lake at least had a response to the UFO
question but it was an answer that was very strange.

"This is very classified. But if you look at Independence Day, the contact
with the space aliens, the description of the aliens is just about perfect. No,
thats nonsense. Absolute nonsense. I never got a briefing. There is no , what is it
Roswell. Unless, I never heard of Roswell...Area 51.I never heard of it . . ."

The briefers of Anthony Lake were rumored to be Dr. Greers CSETI Starlight group.
Therefore, I put the question of the national security advisors claim of UFO
ignorance and denial of being briefed to Dr. Greer following a lecture he gave at
Laughlin, Nevada in March 2001. Speaking to Lakes claim of UFO ignorance, Greer
responded, "Not true." As to Anthony Lakes claim that he was never
briefed, Dr. Greer stated,

"A member of my team provided him with those materials, and he asked the
President about the subject. He is not totally ignorant of the subject. It is true if he
said he ignorant of it in terms of material provided to him officially. Im just a
guy (referring to his briefing to Lake) Im lower than dog poop. I just a guy - a
civilian. So if hes saying he did not deal with or get officially- thats true.
They did receive materials from us. I do have the man on my team who gave it to him and
briefed him."

Vice-President Al Gore, senior people in Al Gores office, his Chief of Staff, and
many of his personal friends" were also given UFO briefings by Dr. Greers
Starlight team. Very little has been released about Gore and his staffs reaction, or
subsequent action to help declassify the UFO subject. Stories have circulated that
Gores people, particularly his person on the environment was very interested, and
did discuss the UFO topic further with Greer outside of the briefings given.

Briefing for Director Of Central Intelligence

The most significant briefing given to a member of the Clinton administration was given
in December 1993 by Dr. Greer. It was a three-hour briefing given to President
Clintons Director of Central Intelligence James Woolsey. Dr. Greer described his
briefing of Woolsey as a presentation of "the scientific data, along with a
well-conceived assessment, and set of recommendations."

Greer stated that he had been told that Woolsey "had an interest in the subject
and felt that the subject was valid, that he had not been able to find out anything
through channels, even though he was the head of the CIA, the NSA, the NRO, and other
civilian intelligence agencies."

Woolsey was very moved by the evidence Greer presented and offered to do what he could
to come up with answers. As supported by a recently declassified document from the CIA,
Woolsey did appear (as claimed by Greer) to try to track down some UFO cases given to him
to check. These efforts were unsuccessful. Woolsey found himself was faced with the
"empty file syndrome" - no evidence pro or con.

His wife Sue Woolsey, Chief Operating Officer for the National Academy of Sciences, was
also present for the Greer briefing. She shared an interest in the phenomena, as she and
her husband had experienced a daylight sighting in the sixties in New Hampshire. Her
interest in Greers work continued after the briefing, and even after her husband was
replaced as DCI. She was reportedly in attendance for the special briefings Dr. Greer held
for government and congressional members in Washington, in April 1997.

The internal UFO inquiries made at the CIA by James Woolsey following the Greer
briefing led to a new study of UFOs inside the CIA prepared for the Director. The final
report, however, turned out not to be an independent assessment but rather a new whitewash
CIA publication on the agencys involvement in the UFO phenomena over the years
1947-1990.

The final report was titled "CIAs Role in the Study of UFOs,
1947-1990." It was written by Gerald K. Haines, a CIA (and formally National
Reconnaissance Office) historian. It was published in Studies in Intelligence, a
classified journal published for the intelligence community. In the introduction to the
paper Haines confirmed Woolseys role in requesting a new review of the UFO evidence
inside CIA files.

"In late 1993, after being pressured by Ufologists for the release of additional
CIA information on UFOs, R. James Woolsey ordered another review of all Agency files on
UFOs."

The release of the new whitewash CIA study on UFOs might have got the CIA off the hook
regarding its involvement in covering-up UFOs, but put the USAF back on the hook. After
all the effort to produce a new study on Roswell for the OSTP and the President, and a
major effort to promote the conclusion to the public, the CIA conclusion was that the Air
Force had lied about more than half of its public statements regarding UFOs from the 1950s
on to cover for CIA spy operations.

"Just when it looked as though the Air Force had won a major battle in the UFO
public relations war with its publication of "Roswell: Case Closed,"
wrote Project 1947 Director Jan Aldrich, " the die hard issue of UFOs was
resurrected."

Haines claimed in the CIA report that more than half of the UFO sightings during the
1950s and 1960s were actually not UFOs but misidentified secret spy planes such as the U-2
and SR-71. More damaging to the Air Force was Haines allegation that the Air Force Project
Blue Book, set up to investigate UFO reports, was actually consulting with the CIA U-2
staff personnel in Washington, and helping to coordinate dismissive explanations for the
public to cover for the spy plane flights.

As the story of the Air Force deception broke in the press the Air Force was forced to
send out Brigadier General Ronald Sconyers to deny the CIA conclusion. He told the press,
"I cannot confirm or deny that we lied. The Air force is committed to providing
accurate and timely information within the confines of national security."

Alerting the Chief of Staff

Richard Farley, a former member of the Rockefeller UFO Disclosure Initiative team, made
his own effort to provide UFO briefings to yet other members of the Clinton White House.
He described his efforts as "tossing the inside documents of Rockefellers REAL
UFO Disclosure Initiative over the transom into the White House."

On February 4, 1994, the same day that Laurance Rockefeller was meeting with Dr.
Gibbons for the second time, Farley sent a complete set of "Rockefeller UFO
Disclosure Initiative" documents by FedEx to Phil Lader in the White House. Over the
next year plus, Farley sent three packages to Lader, then an Assistant to the President
and Deputy Chief of Staff, (later Ambassador to Britain). Lader was a key figure in the
Clinton administration because he had been hand-picked for his job by Bill and Hillary
Clinton, despite the fact he did not even appear on the list of people to interview for
the Deputy Chief of Staff job.

Farley reported that he sent "several" packages of UFO material to Lader.
Lader was responsible for White House Operations and staff, including the coordination of
the overall policy development process. He was, for example, part of the team that found a
job for Linda Tripp, when a request came from the executive to get her out of the White
House.

The Clinton OSTP papers revealed that Lader appeared to be interested in the UFO
material Farley was sending. In response to the first packet of Rockefeller White House
Initiative documents sent by Farley in February 1994, Lader sent Farley a thank-you
letter. In the margin of the letter Lader had added a hand-written comment
"Remarkable Thoughts."

Farley told this author that his UFO briefing effort actually made it as high as
Clintons Chief of Staff Mack McLarty. Farley believed that McLarty had discussed the
material with President Clinton, but doubted that he had given the President anything more
than what Farley called "retail UFOlogy."

Those in the office of Chief of Staff to the President after McLarty left, appeared to
carry on the interest in UFOs. Their unchallenged actions showed that it was safe to be
interested in UFOs in the Clinton White House.

Clintons Deputy Chief of Staff John Podesta was one case in point. He was known
among White House reporters as the unofficial leader of the X-files club in the West Wing
of the White House.

The "Christian Science Monitor" also wrote about the Clintons
Deputy Chief of Staffs extraordinary interest in the X-files.

"Some White House staffers decorate coffee tables with presidential trinkets.
Not John Podesta. While serving as deputy chief of staff to President Clinton, the table
in his office was covered with "X-Files" paraphernalia. Books, fan magazines,
and photos of special agents Mulder and Scully formed the little shrine he built to the
popular science fiction TV series."

Podesta expressed his obsession with X-files when he told U.S. News "when
the show about aliens comes on I just get glued to the tube and try to figure out which
government agencies to call to determine if the show's story is real or not." U.S.
News reported further that Podesta had even E-mailed one of the shows characters, FBI
agent Dana Scully."

Even the white House Press Secretary Mike McCurry confirmed Panettas very serious
interest, "John can get totally maniacal and phobic on certain subjects. He's been
known to pick up the phone to call the Air Force and ask them what's going on in Area
51."

Even as this paper was being edited, another revelation was made about another Clinton
staffer who appeared to have as part of his job description, "find out about
UFOs." That Clinton cabinet member was Secretary of Defense William Cohen. Given
Cohen background, it is not surprising that he would take up a UFO investigation for the
Clinton administration. After all Cohen was one of the Senators who stepped in and rescued
the U.S. Armys psychic intelligence-gathering program known as Project Stargate,
after Reagan national Security advisor Frank Carlucci "dispatched the inspector
general to investigate the Stargate Project at Fort Meade."

It has not been announced if the directive for Cohen action came directly from
President Clinton, but Dr. Steven Greer has announced after discussions with "a very
famous astronaut" that Cohen had called this astronaut in to help with a UFO
investigation he had begun.

"This particular astronaut had during his career been in possession of a very
specific piece of incontrovertible piece of evidence related to UFOs. It is something that
if disclosed would clear and definitive," Greer said in a special breaking interview
with radio host Art Bell. "This astronaut described how he had approached and worked
directly with President Clintons Secretary of Defense William Cohen to look into and
retrieve from classified projects this specific piece of evidence - of that which he had
all the specific details. . .the words used by this astronaut to me were there was
an inordinate large amount of money and personal time by the Secretary of Defense William
Cohen was spent to locate this evidence, and he was never given access to it."

Dr. Greer stated in the interview that this effort by Secretary Cohen was further proof
that, despite the interest in the Clinton White House and a concerted effort by the
President and his staff to get the answers, they were unconstitutionally cut out of the
process of governing control over the UFO subject.

It was perhaps this frustrating situation that led Bill Clinton to bypass the official
search for UFO answers, and actually approve a personal UFO briefing from a member of the
public for himself and his wife Hillary. That historic briefing took place during the
Presidents August 1995 vacation at the Rockefeller Ranch outside Jackson Hole,
Wyoming. The briefer was Laurance Rockefeller.

The inclusion of Hillary in the Rockefeller briefing was the first indicator that the
Presidents wife actively involved, was prepared to play a strong role in the search
for UFO answers inside the Clinton White House.