Well, would a magical attack be classed as a ranged, close combat or what? And if so, since I obviously wouldn't do dex + firearms or whatever for magic, what would I roll?

This entire system confuses the hell out of me, so yeah.

when you're about to use magic, it'll become clear what you're supposed to roll, the book will cover it and it will become obvious which ones are ranged and which are not.

when it comes to magical attacks the bigger questions become what type of attacks they are, whether they can be dodged or countered through wits and occult rolls and so on, im sure ull get it figured out when u actually need to use them

Well, would a magical attack be classed as a ranged, close combat or what? And if so, since I obviously wouldn't do dex + firearms or whatever for magic, what would I roll?

This entire system confuses the hell out of me, so yeah.

when you're about to use magic, it'll become clear what you're supposed to roll, the book will cover it and it will become obvious which ones are ranged and which are not.

when it comes to magical attacks the bigger questions become what type of attacks they are, whether they can be dodged or countered through wits and occult rolls and so on, im sure ull get it figured out when u actually need to use them

Let's say you're using life 3 to effect someone's patterns, would you roll aręte and something else?

Well, would a magical attack be classed as a ranged, close combat or what? And if so, since I obviously wouldn't do dex + firearms or whatever for magic, what would I roll?

This entire system confuses the hell out of me, so yeah.

when you're about to use magic, it'll become clear what you're supposed to roll, the book will cover it and it will become obvious which ones are ranged and which are not.

when it comes to magical attacks the bigger questions become what type of attacks they are, whether they can be dodged or countered through wits and occult rolls and so on, im sure ull get it figured out when u actually need to use them

Let's say you're using life 3 to effect someone's patterns, would you roll aręte and something else?

i dont know that much about mage rolls, so dont tale my word for granted, it will probably be life and matter, you must remember that your victims can countermagic that though.

affecting patterns seems like a power that the book would explain the usage of anyway

Well, would a magical attack be classed as a ranged, close combat or what? And if so, since I obviously wouldn't do dex + firearms or whatever for magic, what would I roll?

This entire system confuses the hell out of me, so yeah.

when you're about to use magic, it'll become clear what you're supposed to roll, the book will cover it and it will become obvious which ones are ranged and which are not.

when it comes to magical attacks the bigger questions become what type of attacks they are, whether they can be dodged or countered through wits and occult rolls and so on, im sure ull get it figured out when u actually need to use them

Let's say you're using life 3 to effect someone's patterns, would you roll aręte and something else?

Look all magik spells are rolled by Arete Your arete determines how strong you can do the magik it self according to M:20 , Any Arete roll can be detected by other mages or supernatural creatures that have Awarness , Your difficulty is determined by two things , Difficulty in the book - the Modifiers you've got but if you're using any sphere you have to ask yourself a question , Is it relfex? If yes then does it take an arete roll or is it an automatic feat? If not reflexiv ask the same other question does it take an arete roll or is it automatic? If it's not automatic feat then you have to roll your Arete which is your power in making or doing a magik spellBefore doing a spell check how do you do that book and check the requirements of spheres if you have the right spheres you can do the spell and sometimes the spell might need fuel ( Quinstennces) as you might spend an amount of quinstennces every turn to keep the spell active and maybe sometimes you can spend more Quinstennces to make the spell stronger than normal , Check prime spheres stuff it'll explain more than the blah blah i'm saying i'm just saying a quick guide so that you understand the whole idea , as it's detailed in the M:20 Book and most of the spells are put in the How do you do that book , if it's not there then yes check bogdan's guide for Mages as it's official if it's not anywhere you can ask in the onyx path saying what that skill nature is and what it does as effects and they will say the right spheres for it.But to go back to our original topic , All magik feats/spells are rolled by arete only.