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Friday, November 30, 2012

What A list country singer once was at a movie theatre and saw there was a black man in the same row. The singer got up and moved a few rows to the front and said, "Now that (n word) is behind me where he belongs."

For what it's worth, if you start Googling "racist" and "country singer," the name "Toby Keith" pops up in the box as a suggested search term. Of course, that just means a lot of people have *asked* whether he is a racist.

I really doubt its toby keith. He has a redneck persona but he isn't racist. He has said good things about Obama and used to be a Democrat. He is an "independent now" ...not that it has much to do with anything. I know that its not fair to assume someone is or isnt racist because of their political beliefs but he seems more intelligent and less ignorant than his country singing compadres.

I haven't listened to country for decades, but I know it's not Willie or Toby. Both of them are really good guys. I wouldn't call Hank Williams Jr a singer never mind A-List. Loved his dad, though. So my guess is that this is made up like that blind about the celebrity who thought they were texting Prince Harry, LOL.

On a side note: I've met more racists up here in Washington State then in Utah or Florida, but I live in Snohomish County. Then again, you don't run into minorities in Utah too much. In Florida, the racism was subversive. On the other hand, the people I met in the South were always baking pies for me and inviting me into their homes. Southern hospitality is real.

Sorry, when you're brandishing the confederate flag then that's what you get. Its a symbol that stands for slavery. Its disgusting and embarassing that people here still wave it proudly. Its not a stereotype when their waving around a symbol that means we think slavery is so right we are going to start our own country, erect our own flag and elect our own slave loving, racist President. His name was Jefferson Davis and his flag was confederate and its still flying today. That's not stereotype, that's blatant, overt, PROUD racism.

To Tuxedo Cat and portlandjewel, Just remember that not ALL of the South, as intimated by Ms. Snarky, are Confederate-flag waving, racist rednecks.

That assumption is born out of the same ignorance as racism (and any other -ism, for that matter). I am a proud, life long Southerner who neither listens to country music, waves Confederate flags, nor judges people based on the color of their skin. To lump all people under one banner, and then judge all those people accordingly, is the very definition of discrimination.

And the fact that slavery existed in the South 150 years ago reveals nothing about the current state of race relations amongst its citizenry.

I do, however, judge people based on the ignorance of their comments and the stupidity of their guesses to blind items.

I'm sure not everyone in the South is racist (like the good folks at the Southern Poverty Law Center, for instance). But c'mon - the South's fight to stand by the Confederate Flag because of "heritage" and "pride" is very, very thinly veiled.

The confederate flag is not a symbol of slavery or racism! It is a symbol of a group of states that decided that THEY knew better what was good for them than the central government. People think the civil war was about slavery but it was about states rights and THAT is what the confederate flag is about... and in this climate I can totally see wearing it!

Agreed, Staple! Trace Adkins sounds like an idiot trying to defend his wearing the Confederate flag on his earpiece. The "heritage" he's so proud of fought and killed for the right to own other people. :(

I've lived in the south for over 20 years and have seen less racism here than I ever saw in the midwest. All of you who like to bad-mouth the south for a stereotype are being just as prejudiced as you accuse us of being.

At the risk of starting a general conflagration, I'd like to defend people's rights to show some pride in their confederate heritage. The confederate flag does not just stand for racism, it also stands for a proud idea, a way of life, a historical era. People died for what they believed in, and to disparage them as all war-mongering racists is to do them an injustice. There was slavery in the south, because it was a largely agricultural area of the country, and the slave labor was needed to run the huge farms. Most southerners had smaller farms and no slaves, but let's just go ahead and call all southerners pro-slavery, so we can feel superior. In the north they had factories employing 10 year old children for 12 hour days. There is a lot of our history, both north and south, that is unsavory, but to pretend that only the south is to be reviled is wrong.

Most of that is crazy talk, but I'll just choose one sentence to take up:

"There was slavery in the south, because it was a largely agricultural area of the country, and the slave labor was needed to run the huge farms."

Explain to me why (a) it had to be slave labor instead of paid labor, and secondarily, (b) explain to me how and why the horrors of slavery - the beatings, the lynchings, the KKK, etc. - helped the ultimate goal of increasing your agricultural productions.

I have lived in the south my entire life and the very small contingency of people that stand up to protest the Confederate flag to be flown at public institutions as heritage are not looked upon with great favor. However, it would be foolish to expect the eradication of something that is indeed a large portion of our nation's history and an example of the evolution of our nation. I believe in peoples' right to collect historic memorabilia. While I certainly don't advocate proudly flying the confederate flag, I think it may behoove some of you to delve into the history of the civil war and the manner in which some of the confederate soldiers were forced to fight and the fact that there were also native tribes that fought with the confederacy. It's highly irresponsible to say that everyone who lives in the south must be racist because of a war that happened over 150 years ago. There are always going to be nutjobs who yell loudly about their misguided beliefs, but saying the entire south is racist is akin to saying that all Germans are Nazis.

Sorry but the Confederate States of America were akin to a terrorist group. They lost and their movement was ground into the dust. I was born and raised in the South, still live here and am proud to be Southern but I am an American first and will not wear the emblem of a vanquished 'power'.

I have yet to see Black, Asian, Latino, Native American, Jewish or other minority Southerners donning the Stars and Bars, so spare me with the 'it's a Southern heritage thing' bullshit because that's exactly what it is. When I see ALL Southerners standing behind the Confederate flag, I'll reconsider but I'm not holding my breath.

Please let me be clear - I think the confederate flag is abhorrent. I think it is a clear symbol of racism and hatred, and it's status as a cultural or historical symbol does not overshadow it's larger symbolism (think the swastika).

I will jump to the defense of the South, as we are not all racist, but I think that flying, wearing, or in anyway rocking a Confederate flag is gross. Gross.

Agreed, bernbelle. I don't advocate or agree with the idea that the confederate flag should fly along side the American flag. I hope that the message I was trying to get across did not make it seem that way. I simply wanted to state that not all southerners fought for the war willingly. Thankfully we have the gifts of hindsight and increased education and tolerance in this century to HOPEFULLY maintain a civil discourse.

@bernbelle - yeah, the whole time this argument has been going on, I've been thinking about those morons who inscribe swastikas on shit and are like "OMG GUYS, don't you know?! It was totally a Native American symbol before it was corrupted by the Germans. Educate yourselves!"

Nope. It doesn't matter what it used to mean, it means what it means now, and if you're displaying it, you're doing it with full knowledge of the severe negative connotations of the symbol.

Well said, syko! To say the civil war was only about slavery is to be ill informed. The northern states were dominating federal government, and policies were not favorable for the agrarian, agricultural based south. States wanted to limit the power of the federal government, keeping many issues at the state level -- which is what is actually laid out in the constitution. Only a small percentage of white southerners owned slaves, far smaller than the percentage of those that supported the confederacy. Do you really think that the non slaveowners fought for the right to own slaves? They fought for states rights, and to protect a way of life that extended far beyond slavery. Remember, history is always written by the victors that have their own agenda in playing up or down certain elements.

When a southerner displays the confederate flag, it is not because they want slavery. It is a display of pride in their culture and way of life.

Oh, and don't go thinking that I'm a racist southerner. I grew up out west, and moved to the south 20 years ago thinking that southerners were stereotyped racists. Living there, and meeting lots of southerners, changed my perspective a lot. Sure. Some folks are racist. But so are many in other parts of the country. And I have had far more contact with blatant racists in other parts of the country -- usually because they rarely interact with blacks and so are able to remain ignorant.

The world isn't as black and white as you make it out to be. There are a whole lot of shades of grey.

Oh god, come on. No one thinks ALL Southerners are racist and ALL Northerners are not. People make sweeping statements, yes, but no need to shake your fists in the air and insist everyone is calling all Southerners racists. Racism is everywhere.

hahaha i'm glad no one thought of Dwight Yoakam because it specifies A List. In Canada he has left small venues when he sees too many Natives. A native lady I know waited in line to get his autograph and when he saw her getting close to the table, that's when he decided he'd signed enough for the night. I love his music but I would hate to support his career.

the confederate cause was about dissolving the united states of america. it was an uprising---over the issue of slavery (no matter what they try to claim now since that sounds so bad)---and they wanted to leave the US and form their own country.

you CANNOT take pride in that and call yourself a good american or a patriot---at least not an american patriot. that's an oxymoron.

they didn't want to BE americans anymore. so sick and fucking tired of all this 'confederate pride' shit. how can you be proud of fighting a war over owning other human beings?

I really want to like country music but when I see its stars like Trace Adkins (Atkins) wearing the stars and bars as an earpiece in NYC I really have to step back from the idiom.

Someone mentioned Hank Williams Jr. Hank Williams Sr owes his career to a black man named Rufus Payne and never denied it. Yet his son has shown himself to be a complete idiot.

There are truly talented musicians working in the country music idiom but until the South faces the elephant that is always in the room country music will always have "Oh yeah" status as in "oh, yeah, county music".

I agree that not all Southerners are racist and the Confederate flag is a symbol of a bygone era, an era that included slavery but there was more to it than just slavery to which some of you seem to be dwelling on far too much. There is good and bad to just about everything including the child labour that the North practised that you conveniently gloss over.I would be interested in knowing what some of you loud mouths have done to enrich the lives of racial minority groups lately, bashing Southerners doesn't count.

Why give this person the privilage of anonymity? I am so tired of Blinds where the person (there have been several in the past few months about a hugely racist actor, actress and now country star) is publicly horrible and yet given the luxury of anonymity.

If they had the balls to be horrible in public, Enty shouldn't worry about getting sued.

The fear of lawsuit is the only reason i can figure out why blind reveals as of late have been 1) gossip over 4 years old OR 2) about the dead.

Grow a pair man and tell us something good!

Plus, these people deserve to be villified for their actions. If you're not part of the solution, Enty - you are part of the problem. Sorry.

Nancer, I'm sorry you have been brainwashed about the Civil War but do yourself a favour and educate yourself. Slave labour still exists, Mexicans are flown all over North America and work the fields in agricultural areas because they can be paid less than minimum wage, they are kept in barrack type accommodations and aren't really free to go as they please after work - because they are too exhausted from working hard from dawn to dusk. Funny how no-one says anything about that though. No outrage over that.

I live in the south and am African American and there is racism here, but there are also a lot of wonderful, down to earth people. I have also experienced ignorant, racist people in the north, on the east coast and in Europe. It happens everywhere. People are stupid.

Alan Jackson is one of the nicer country singers out there. I worked at an upscale restaurant in Nashville in high school and we had country singers in a lot. There are some that I liked and now don't based on their behavior to service staff, fans, etc,

I think it has to be one of the older country singers (Willie, Hank, etc) I realize I'm stereotyping in my guess but old people a-don't seem to have much of a filter, and b-the more racist comments I've heard in my life have come from older people since they were around for desegregation and the riots.

Trace adkins just wore at confederate flag earpiece at the rockerfeller christmas tree lighting. There are dicks everywhere. Me personally, i am scared to go to arizona. It's like florida level psychosis but with racism.

The Confederate flag should not be recognized in any way. That side lost. And losers like that don't deserve recognition. Fly if it you want, wave it high. It just means you associate with LOSERS. And I want WINNERS!

I am not a southerner, but I will make one point. The Civil War was fought over the RIGHT TO SECEDE FROM THE UNION, was a legal thing to do! Georgia, upon ratifying the Constitution, was allowed the right to secede from the Union at any time. The 14th Amendment to the Constitution created the Equal Protection clause, which means, in essence, if it applies to one it applies to all. The Union, by military force, stopped a legal act on the part of the Confederate states. As someone has already pointed out, the victor writes the history, so this fact is kept out of mainstream teaching of our kids. Regardless of what you think of slavery, the southern states constitutional rights were violated by a president most Americans were taught is only a hero with no flaws to his thinking.

I agree with JaysMama....whoever this is please "out" him or her for that matter, and the Real Housewife who slapped her child (in a previous blind) if it's all done in public? I think perception would change to these social losers who make a lot of money entertaining, I would rather give money to someone who deserves it than to a closet racist.

I live in Virginia and used to defend the confederate flag quite staunchly for a lot of the reasons people are throwing around - culture, heritage, ancestry, history. Then one day in college, an African American friend of mine and I got into a discussion about it. I told her my view and she then explained to me why she and others viewed it as so offensive. It was like a light bulb moment for me. I totally got it. Regardless of WHY the war was really fought - and I wrote a paper on the South's right to secede - I now choose not to celebrate a symbol so hurtful to millions of Americans because it represents a time when they had no rights. I choose compassion and understanding over "heritage". That's just the way I roll.

Plus, if I am honest, some of the biggest racists I personally know are confederate flag wavers. I don't mean that to be a sweeping generalization, but an anecdote related to my personal experiences.

I do love the discussions of the cdaners...to take a topic and turn it into a heated discussion...

I hate to say how much prejudice still exists today (in my family), lessor yes, but still here and all of it on my dad's side who is originally from West Virginia, and now most live here in California. I see it in some of my facebook friends over the Hispanic population here in So Cal.

It catches me by surprise that racism still exists in a major way for a lot of people only it's guarded and secretive. Or, an argument or political topic will start with ..."I am not a racist BUT....." I hate that.

I've lived in the south, as well as the north. Racism was more out in the open in the south. I'm not saying every southerner is racist. In my experience, a majority were awesome people. It just seemed more prevalent there.

The reasons for the Civil War are nuanced, but it mostly goes back to slavery in some measure. Not that the North cared about slavery as much as history would lead us to believe. They were more concerned about holding on to the union formed by the USA less than 90 years prior to then. And the North didn't like the idea of not be able to compete with the South when it came to manufacturing, as the South used free labor and wasn't as reliant on technology. But the South was trying to expand slavery because their land was exhausted from the constant cotton and tobacco crops. They needed to give their acreage a rest and use other land. The North, sensing a moving in on their money, wasn't having that.

But make no mistake. Slavery played a part in nearly every aspect of the US Civil War. There is no point in trying to massage the matter. It's pretty obvious what was happening. But one would be right in saying that slaves' right to freedom had nothing to with it. The masses barely cared about that so much.

As you can see from my picture, I'm not white. I can sympathize a bit with the Confederate cause a bit, since I'm far removed from it. In short, they had the right to do what they did, but they did it for all the wrong reasons. Yes, slavery is horrible, but to paint all regionalist and secessionist impulses as derived from racism is to deny that at the time, it was legitimate to secede... and that the current laws against it are unjust.

I'm Hawaiian. I would like to see my home return to it's previous status before the illegal annexation. As it is, it cannot, even if it wanted to.

Also while, I would agree that Southern racists love to wrap themselves in the Confederate flag, not everyone who loves the Confederate flag and Dixie memorabilia are racists. A military friend of mine has a big one on his pick-up truck back home. If there's anything he hates, it ain't blacks and browns like myself. It's snobby brow-beating redneck despising city-slicking yanks. I rather share his opinion. He ain't rich. His family up in the highlands of Tennessee is as poor as a black family in the lowlands. Even if he didn't wear his Southern identity on his shoulder, the rest of the "sunzabitches" would look down on him for hunting, mudding, having holy rollers in the family and generally coming from "Deliverance" country. Why not extend a huge middle finger to the society that would shit on you, blame you for keeping the blacks down, while they who call you racist put their kids in private schools and defund their cities public schools into prison-like hellholes, and gentrify the black and brown people out of town without a second thought?

And last I checked, Germany and Japan still exist and the US has no sovereignty over them. The Confederate states came back into the Union. Which means they no longer exist. Which means they don't need or deserve a flag.

When he begins an article with "WHAT singer," he might as well just say "I am a total idiot who never bothered to learn proper English and I'm so damn proud of this I won't change even after it's pointed out to me!"

Time was if you were in the media, you were 3expected to know the language, even if your readers did not.

Yes, there are many kind and compassionate people in the South, much as there are disgustingly racist neanderthals in the North. But I can state this from experience: I used to have a boyfriend whose job entailed many frequent transfers to different cities. He was a kind, smart, successful man, the sort that one could hold up as an example to others. He was also Vietnamese, having been airlifted out of Saigon as a child at the end of the war. Only in Southern states did we endure the glares of white men while we were out in public. I'm sure there were northerners or midwesterners that didn't approve of our relationship, but it was never expressed openly, and I was NEVER frightened of the possibility of violence in a parking lot upon leaving a public place. Perhaps the South has such a reputation for racism because the racists there are more blatant about it.

Also, @BettorOffSingle, this is the Internet Age; proper grammar and correct spelling have sadly fallen by the wayside. They're not coming back any time soon.

Trace Adkins used to be from Louisiana, however, apparently he moved because he put out out a song called I'm From Ala-Freakin-bama thereby earning my undying hatred, and, also, he went to school at Tech. (Which sucks royal!) So, yeah, I think for the tasteless earwig, just being a big dumb redneck and making us all look bad, and last but certainly not least that stupid song, we should sanction him for all eternity. But, my guess for this blind is pretty boy Blake Shelton. He's joker, but that sometimes hides a lot of rage.

John... you have a poor grasp on reality. I bet you think it was all about 'state's rights', huh? Guess what? State's rights was ALL ABOUT SLAVERY. It's like, the exact words the Confederacy used. In black and white print. Stop being so deliberately obtuse and open your eyes.

Oh, hi straw man! what does this have to do with anything? Confederate flag= symbol of a failed never-was country that refused to Not own slaves. Child labor, what have YOU done=absolutely off the topic.

First if any of you are black I would like u to know that the Confederate flag nor civil war had anything to do with racism. The war and the flag ate about economics. The practice of slavery was not made illegal...it's only illegal to profit off of slavery. That's the only way wars are won.. By crippling the economy.

Yeah but Hank's comments weren't actually racist, it was just some weird ramble about playing golf with Obama and then he name dropped some socialists (whose name I can't spell or recall) to sound smart. Or, maybe it was racist code talk and I just haven't drank enough 'shine with my rowdy friends to get WTF he was talking about. He's also not A-list, not any more. He's just a has-been who let his mockin' bird mouth overload his hummin' bird ass and lost the one source of revenue he still had. No more Monday night football for him.

And nobody in this theater reacted to this insult? That is shameful. There are idiots, bigots and racists everywhere. You won t eradicate them. But it is when the rest of the people let it go and stay coy that freedom is in danger. The absence of reaction says more about the level of racism in a population than personal census. If 99 non-racists let one racist act and do nothing, it s still a racist place. Would this happen in a Southern state more than in a Northern state? I don t know, never been.

This is craziness. So owning a slave, raping slaves, ripping families apart by selling slaves, breeding slaves like animals, murdering slaves, depriving PEOPLE of their humanity by making them slaves was necessary because the south has a lot of land??? Seriously? Why not hire laborers? The rich land owners could have let their wealth "trickle down". And to compare child labor to slavery illustrates how uninformed you are. It's frightening how uninformed you are. Please read a book.

This is craziness. So owning a slave, raping slaves, ripping families apart by selling slaves, breeding slaves like animals, murdering slaves, depriving PEOPLE of their humanity by making them slaves was necessary because the south has a lot of land??? Seriously? Why not hire laborers? The rich land owners could have let their wealth "trickle down". And to compare child labor to slavery illustrates how uninformed you are. It's frightening how uninformed you are. Please read a book.

This got ugly. I'm from NJ and live in Texas but my grandmother's family is from West Virginia, the people who broke away from Virginia over slavery (simplified-I'm not here to give a history lecture). I'm racially mixed and husband is white. The only place I've ever been called hateful racial names is in WV. There are idiots everywhere and to be fair, I made some good friends in WV and met some lovely people.

is Trace still A-list? Hank Jr owes a lot of his style to black music also. I doubt Willie;maybe George Strait? he seems to have a sort of regal manner. Kenny Rogers has worked with Lionel Richie among others and Dolly has costarred with Queen Latifah and friends with Oprah;so I really dont think its her.

To be fair;it is possible they were expecting the person to be disruptive on cellphone,or maybe had a bad odor..it might be a reason for calling names..but the funny thing is,if you didnt trust the person,you would want them in front of you;certainly not behind you.

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