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My tip is if you dont have the lightning reactions of Usain Bolt when you give the input to start the rotations and start running keep your hands by your side this gives you the option to outstretch your arms for a extra bit of slack

Wayne... your video from a different angle helps me to understand this trick. I've done this to the point that you got (while practicing the single AVFFF), and unrolled, but I never tried adding another 1/2 rotation to it. I may not get this one right away because I'm not supposed to run for a while. Maybe I can do 1, but 2 reps... I don't know.One thing I see in your video is that it looks like your input for the unroll is a little sharp. The guys from kite hill (Tom, Jim, Reggie) helped me with my unrolls back when I used to post my 'what am I doing wrong' videos a few years ago. They told me to calm the input, and just take a few steps back with a gradual pull. ~Rob.

Wayne... your video from a different angle helps me to understand this trick. I've done this to the point that you got (while practicing the single AVFFF), and unrolled, but I never tried adding another 1/2 rotation to it. I may not get this one right away because I'm not supposed to run for a while. Maybe I can do 1, but 2 reps... I don't know.One thing I see in your video is that it looks like your input for the unroll is a little sharp. The guys from kite hill (Tom, Jim, Reggie) helped me with my unrolls back when I used to post my 'what am I doing wrong' videos a few years ago. They told me to calm the input, and just take a few steps back with a gradual pull. ~Rob.

Thanks for the feedback on my unrolls being sharp. I am always learning to temper my inputs.

My tip is if you dont have the lightning reactions of Usain Bolt when you give the input to start the rotations and start running keep your hands by your side this gives you the option to outstretch your arms for a extra bit of slack

Simon

I will have to try this tried everything else

Boy this trick is hard, Thanks Norm.

First I find it hard to get two rotations. 1 1/2 is easy the last 1/2 rotation the kite loses most of its momentum. Plus you have to have to the kite lined up really straight.

If the lines catch the kite winding up it slows and never get to 2 rotations.

I tried poping with my hand back as far as possible but the line always catches my elbows. (sorry no video)

If I sprint full speed the lines are too slack and often miss the yoyo stopper or rollup bars.

Then I tried running forward with my hands together in front of me to keep the lines near the nose. This worked better at catching the yoyo stopper, but not the ideal sprinting postion that Usain Bolt uses.

Wayne.....Do you find yourself slipping (loosing traction) on the grass? I have to be on the wet/moist sand to get enough traction to do this trick. There is NO way I could do it on the loose sand. It is at least FUN to try it. Just wait until you complete the two rotations. If you're anything like me (over weight) and out of shape, you'll be breathing heavy.

No problem slipping on the grass. I don't move that fast.

My issues are old age, overweight and asmtha. Other than that this trick is a piece of cake.

I finally got to fly in a good smooth wind again, and realize how badly out of practice I am. This trick is going to take some time, I couldn't even get one. I couldn't do more than 2 single AVFFF's in a row, but I think I might have bee flying to heavy of a kite for the wind. Oh, well.Still out there... still trying...

I've given this one a go a couple of times, the running is not the hard part for me, what catches me out is I have trouble keeping track of the kites orientation during the trick and usually pull up short or the kite kind of locks in and descends on a relatively slow trajectory to terra firma.

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