I'm not really sure about the seriousness of this idea but I just behave now as if it would be ment serious:If someone is playing many games which are not private it 's natural that a lot of noobs join. So after a while many players will have noob gold medall which they don't deserve. So my suggestion is:If you play against a lower rank you get noob medal points if you win against a higher rank you loose noob medal points. Playing against a higher rank must count much more than against a lower (obviously there are more lower rank players than higher rank players to find for a game)

JustCallMeStupid wrote:So if the medal is based off of players you eliminate that have a ? as their rank. Might take a long time to achieve and be somewhat difficult to gain. Might be a high prized medal to win actually.

In all reality I dont care if some people want to 'nood farm' most the time when I play with noobs (low ranked but no longer ?'s) I get picked on so I generally avoid them.

you're just doing it wrong David Hoekstra is the expert go to him for tips

1. I'm pretty sure that over the course of my 3,000 games I have probably beaten 50 question marks, however a quick scan of any page of my games would, I believe, tell you that I am not and have never been a farmer. Anyone with a high game count who has played a lot of public games would earn some of these medals.

2. Although I don't play many cooks and cadets, playing them is not considered farming, only question marks as far as I remember from reading the rules.

3. It's not practical for question marks. Again, I may be wrong, but I believe medals are issued using map rank or something similar. Map rank cannot, as far a I know, tell if someone was a question mark when you played them.

4. I don't farm because I don't find it satisfying, but I don't see it as being too much different to any other form of points manipulation, see my thread:

5. Many of the very good players that I have played in the past have left. Some of them deadbeating 20 or 30 games when they left, thus making them cooks now, but they may have been majors and colonels when they were active.

The only way to really determine is a farmer is to measure the percentage of their games that were against question marks, and I don't know of any scripts out there that do this.

This isn't quite the same as preying on children but let's face it, there isn't much of a challenge in it either. I wouldn't legislate it as the Noobs could be doing their own farming. A win against a Major or above can net them a big pay-off. I say let it be and let the market decide. (And I rarely ever say that but in this case).

As George said, the only way this would work is by a percentage-basis, as players that have been here over the years are bound to have played plenty of games against lower ranks. Also, what about cadet, private, etc that play regularly with people of their own rank? This being said, there would also have to be a minimum point limit to be able to acheieve this, which would outcast some of these "Medal Heads"...

To be honest, this seems like a big joke to me. The points above are made in all seriousness, but there is zero possibility that Lack and other admins want to give out awards for these types of players. The best way to prevent the current farming situation is to educate the new players to the site, which SoC helps but only so much. If new players were shown what types of maps and game types are best to begin with, I think they would be able to progress faster. I know ?'s are limited to games and maps, but i think it should be extended slightly past this to prevent farming. But in contrast to the prior point, every player here has been put through the fire to get the high ranks we see today, and not all of them did it through farming methods.

There is always going to be some sort of farming no matter what efforts are taken, minus a complete tyranny over the site that would ruin the experience for everyone. Let the admins figure out a way to best limit this, and worry about playing your own game. If the scoreboard really matters that much to you, play some of those farmers and take the points back from them.

xxtig12683xx wrote:yea, my fav part was being in the sewer riding a surfboard and wacking these alien creatures.

JustCallMeStupid wrote:So if the medal is based off of players you eliminate that have a ? as their rank. Might take a long time to achieve and be somewhat difficult to gain. Might be a high prized medal to win actually.

In all reality I dont care if some people want to 'nood farm' most the time when I play with noobs (low ranked but no longer ?'s) I get picked on so I generally avoid them.

JustCallMeStupid wrote:So if the medal is based off of players you eliminate that have a ? as their rank. Might take a long time to achieve and be somewhat difficult to gain. Might be a high prized medal to win actually.

In all reality I dont care if some people want to 'nood farm' most the time when I play with noobs (low ranked but no longer ?'s) I get picked on so I generally avoid them.

Does it really matter everyone does it. I would say it is a must if you want to keep 40+ games going. I am sure I was farmed for the first few months before I found regular players to team with to attempt to balance out points. It is a good way to counter the poor Rolls from the dice LOL.There is plenty of room for new medals so if they want to more power to them.However Medals are normally won for good achievements no one ever got medals for destroying the week and defenseless. well maybe