Why don't you send my account on Youtube a message if you don't believe me then? It's the same me and I'll verify it if you ask.

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The second video is different from the first and the third doesn't play as all.

For some reason myspace videos don't like to play in embedded form, but this forum did that to the link automatically. You can get to the original video site on myspace just by clicking on the title. And yes, of course the second video is different from the first; why would I keep uploading the same video over and over? I'm always trying to improve my images with different cameras.

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I wasn't entirely convinced either by that webpage of yours with the Shuttle launching and the bald headed eagle.

So because I'm trying to document every phase of the shuttle's flight I must be a liar? Or I'm a liar because I took a picture of a bald eagle? Serious non-sequiturs there. And if you think I'm lying about recording those videos of the space station, why don't you report me to flickr for using someone else's images? Let's see what they decide.

Why do you trust galexander in the face of overwhelming evidence proving ISS exists? Look at the independent evidence for yourself and form your own conclusion. Either he's right and amateur astronomers are all in on the conspiracy with the exception of him, or he's just incapable of viewing the station properly through his telescope but refuses to admit to his own mistakes.

Either he's right and amateur astronomers are all in on the conspiracy with the exception of him, or he's just incapable of viewing the station properly through his telescope but refuses to admit to his own mistakes.

Correction Astronut other amateur astronomers have reported seeing exactly the same thing as I have, i.e. a round object.

http://alpo-j.asahikawa-med.ac.jp/kk08/o080512a5.jpg
I could go on all day. There are at least hundreds of amateurs from all over the world who are capable of photographing ISS in their telescopes, and they all show the same thing. Personally I still think you're not using enough magnification to resolve it, but because you don't use computerized tracking and you're trying to view it directly, you don't have a choice in the matter. I don't know what your problem is or if you're just full of crap, but I KNOW what I've seen and the images and videos I present are 100% real. You've done nothing to actually prove that I faked anything at all. If you think you can prove it, then by all means try to get youtube to take down my videos; the terms of service require that uploaders do not submit falsehoods.

Astronut, you have more than met the burden of proof. What's more, I've enjoyed your photographs of the space station, the shuttle...and the bald eagle. Heck, I didn't even know that hobbyist telescopes could resolve the station and I find it fascinating. Wow, thanks for the education.

galexander, can you provide any proof other than you own testimony? Really, you’re the one making the fantastic claim, isn't the burden of proof your responsibility? All you done so far is make a wildly improbable claim and then try to refute Astronut's reputation or the validity of his evidence. Can you bring any evidence besides your own speculation? Is it possible that your experience of looking through a telescope and seeing a “white ball” is due to some other factor other than a worldwide conspiracy involving thousands of operators, the mass media, governments and the willful ignorance from an army of hobbyist, fact checkers and whistle blowers? Really? Could you just go back and fiddle with the focus ring some more?

Personally I still think you're not using enough magnification to resolve it, but because you don't use computerized tracking and you're trying to view it directly, you don't have a choice in the matter.

With the eyepiece and magnification I was using I was easily able to resolve the rings of Saturn which has a similar apparent diameter to the ISS, and yet I could see no angular projections. The conclusion I came to is that this was because there were none.

It is also the case that whenever I have viewed the ISS, which is many times now, I have never witnessed any flashes as the silvery object catches the Sun. How do you explain this? Distant aircraft sometimes catch the Sun when it is low on the horizon suddenly bringing them into view and these aircraft don't even have the shiney surfaces the ISS is said to have.

And how do you explain the fact that the object I observed is always a pale yellow colour? These video images you show allegedly of the ISS are all white in colour.

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There are at least hundreds of amateurs from all over the world who are capable of photographing ISS in their telescopes, and they all show the same thing.

And how do you know there are hundreds of amateur's all over the world who have seen this based upon these few images on YouTube? What about all the amateurs who have seen what I saw? How many of them fit into this category, thousands, tens of thousands? How do you know what the stats are, you were just using empty rhetoric.

I'm certain that when the Space Shuttle exploded in mid-air back in the early 1980's and everyone on board died, it was a HOAX.

I certainly agree with you BlueAngel. NASA were fully aware of the dangers of the O-rings at the low temperatures that were encountered on the launch pad that day so they knew the accident was going to happen before it did. But who would ever have let such a thing happen if there were real people on board that thing that day?

The whole thing was so fishy even the FBI were forced to look into the matter, not that the investigation came to anything.