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mgillespie - if you use Poweramp, you can have it use file based playlists and not use the database playlists. When you use the file-based playlists it will look and use the actual file m3u playlists in your playlists directory everytime and they will always be the most up to date recent versions (since obviously they get updated each time you sync).

SO happy to see that this is fixed.

mgillespie - if you use Poweramp, you can have it use file based playlists and not use the database playlists. When you use the file-based playlists it will look and use the actual file m3u playlists in your playlists directory everytime and they will always be the most up to date recent versions (since obviously they get updated each time you sync).

Just to close this completely. Android's media scanner (at least on my Xperia) is not perfect when it comes to playlists. I left it ages, it recognised that the sync had removed the old playlists, but not that it recreated them, I tried using the default path /Playlists and also tried /Music/Playlists. Neither really worked too well, it always showed no playlists afyer syncing.

I also tried Media Go, which comes with the phone, same problem, so it's clearly not a MM4 problem.

What DID work for me, using using this Android app, which kicks of a manual refresh of the media database:

Just to close this completely. Android's media scanner (at least on my Xperia) is not perfect when it comes to playlists. I left it ages, it recognised that the sync had removed the old playlists, but not that it recreated them, I tried using the default path /Playlists and also tried /Music/Playlists. Neither really worked too well, it always showed no playlists afyer syncing.

I also tried Media Go, which comes with the phone, same problem, so it's clearly not a MM4 problem.

What DID work for me, using using this Android app, which kicks of a manual refresh of the media database:

Can confirm this now works correctly in 1470. M3U playlists are created as specified by the Deviceinfo XML.

I did still have a problem with the Android mediaplayer recognizing them, but this is an Android problem. (it may have eventually found them, or I may need to put my playlists under the music folder for the Android media scanner to spot them). The Mediamonkey side of the problems are now resolved.

Many thanks for sorting it out.

Can confirm this now works correctly in 1470. M3U playlists are created as specified by the Deviceinfo XML.

I did still have a problem with the Android mediaplayer recognizing them, but this is an Android problem. (it may have eventually found them, or I may need to put my playlists under the music folder for the Android media scanner to spot them). The Mediamonkey side of the problems are now resolved.

Still no go. It's definitely DIFFERENT, it's now creating playlists of a different kind, they appear as 0 byte files in MTP browsing, but when opened using Windows Explorer, they do seem to have valid references. They AREN'T M3U files, and they AREN'T still recognized by the Android player..

They don't seem to have any file extension, and when browsed on the device itself, seem to be empty....

Still no go. It's definitely DIFFERENT, it's now creating playlists of a different kind, they appear as 0 byte files in MTP browsing, but when opened using Windows Explorer, they do seem to have valid references. [b]They AREN'T M3U files[/b], and they [b]AREN'T still recognized by the Android player.[/b].

They don't seem to have any file extension, and when browsed on the device itself, seem to be empty....

It's entered and now also fixed as http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=9066 . If you can test it before the next build is out, there's an updated http://www.mediamonkey.com/beta/d_WMDM.dll available. Just replace the current one in Plugins folder and it should work fine.

Seems like quite a common Android bug. I will run the utility tonight and generate the debug log. However I hope the devs take this problem seriously, as this problem seem to have been around for at least 6+ months.

PS. Anyone know how to force the playlist format during MTP transfers, or somehow convert PLA to M3U8?

Seems like quite a common Android bug. I will run the utility tonight and generate the debug log. However I hope the devs take this problem seriously, as this problem seem to have been around for at least 6+ months.

PS. Anyone know how to force the playlist format during MTP transfers, or somehow convert PLA to M3U8?

Mediamonkey syncronises the music to the device just fine, but copies the playlists as .pla format. This is not compatible with this device the default-capability.xml clearly does not mention .pla and only M3U.

It's looking like you totally disregard what the MTP XML tells you, and just copies .PLA.

Mediamonkey syncronises the music to the device just fine, but copies the playlists as [b].pla[/b] format. This is not compatible with this device the default-capability.xml clearly does not mention .pla and only M3U.

It's looking like you totally disregard what the MTP XML tells you, and just copies .PLA.

Well in my case, I am using the Evo View(HTC Flyer with 4G). It shows up as an HTC Hero, but I'm running Honeycomb, while I think the Hero only went up to 2.1 or 2.2? I got it working anyway by uninstalling MM and all the folders, reinstalling and resetting everything from scratch. Not sure what went wrong. I think it was reading the database wrong while syncing, it could never complete.

As for the iPhone 4S, I went to their iCloud sync for the time being. I would still prefer local sync though.

Sorry, I was frustrated the other day.

Well in my case, I am using the Evo View(HTC Flyer with 4G). It shows up as an HTC Hero, but I'm running Honeycomb, while I think the Hero only went up to 2.1 or 2.2? I got it working anyway by uninstalling MM and all the folders, reinstalling and resetting everything from scratch. Not sure what went wrong. I think it was reading the database wrong while syncing, it could never complete.

As for the iPhone 4S, I went to their iCloud sync for the time being. I would still prefer local sync though.