I still believe something will be released for the holiday season. I wouldn't call the timing of the 635/735/930 holiday season timing.I woulnd't be surprised if they had a trick up their sleeve for November/December. They were working on McLaren for a November release so a high end holiday season device was at some point on the project list. Hopefully it still is. I'm happy with my M8 but I do want to see them release something in Q4 for the sake of the platform.