Comments on Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEOTypePad2013-08-26T15:38:31ZAndy Towlehttp://www.towleroad.com/tag:typepad.com,2003:http://www.towleroad.com/2013/08/jamaica/comments/atom.xml/Ronnie Whelan commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef019affb152aa970d2013-09-30T12:52:36Z2013-09-30T12:52:36ZRonnie Whelanhttp://www.towleroad.com/2006/11/sportrait_david.htmlThese people are clueless ! It seems the culture down there is so anti-gay and the people are ignorant and...<p>These people are clueless ! It seems the culture down there is so anti-gay and the people are ignorant and attitudes are from the dark ages ! Jamaicans are very homophobic and people still believe gays are child molesters or trying to convert minors. Jamaica is a very poor and violent country. This is fertile ground for such dangerous ignorance to breed. The police are more corrupt than the criminals and the gov&#39;t is useless to protect vulnerable minorities like gays.Violence and even murders are perpetrated against gay men and usually go unreported and the majority of the population condones this barbarism. Jamaica is not safe for homosexuals, and this includes lesbians !</p>Free commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef019aff19bc07970c2013-08-31T01:43:54Z2013-08-31T01:43:54ZFree Being flamboyant is also part of the problem, if your Gay don't jam it in people's face, the gangsta rapper...<p>Being flamboyant is also part of the problem, if your Gay don&#39;t jam it in people&#39;s face, the gangsta rapper are annoying too.</p>stanhope commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef019aff0c4bfd970d2013-08-28T09:23:53Z2013-08-28T09:23:53ZstanhopeI don't get the big deal about Jamaica. I've been several times on business and the beaches aren't great. There...<p>I don&#39;t get the big deal about Jamaica. I&#39;ve been several times on business and the beaches aren&#39;t great. There are plenty of gays in Jamaica...the ones that are lighter in hue get what are considered the best jobs in the high end resorts and restaurants. They seem to live in substantial fear. It was made known to me when I stayed at Iberostar several times that some of these staff people would be available but the thought of possibly being in a Jamaican prison outweighed the delight I might have found for an hour or 3. Violence against anyone is insane. To oppress this or any group because of what they are is reprehensible. I feel sorry for my gay brothers in Jamaica and hope things get better for them soon. I especially remember this waiter at the Spanish Trace hotel who served breakfast every morning. Gorgeous and delightful, you could see the profound sadness in his eyes. Since both of our gaydar went off like lightning, I was attuned to his deep despair. I stayed at Spanish Trail several times and he would light up every time I appeared for breakfast. I feel so sorry for these people whose lives would be so much different in Los Angeles or New York or Atlanta. </p>Brian1 commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef019aff0bb745970c2013-08-28T07:00:49Z2013-08-28T07:00:49ZBrian1@David Hearne, Why the name change to hagatha?<p>@David Hearne,</p>
<p>Why the name change to hagatha?</p>Hagatha commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef019aff0a318f970b2013-08-28T00:31:42Z2013-08-28T00:31:42ZHagathaBrian1 - The question was "What makes me more or less racist than anyone else?" I live, work, and shop...<p>Brian1 - The question was &quot;What makes me more or less racist than anyone else?&quot; I live, work, and shop around black people. I get called racist by people who live in racially exclusive areas and think that they aren&#39;t racist, because they call other people racists. If you ask them why they live where they live they will say &quot;Good schools.&quot; or &quot;Safe neighborhood.&quot; both of which mean &quot;not very many black people&quot;. </p>billmiller commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef019aff0a18ad970b2013-08-27T23:56:47Z2013-08-27T23:56:47ZbillmillerI will never set foot in Jamaica!<p>I will never set foot in Jamaica! </p>H commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef0192acc9406f970d2013-08-27T17:37:21Z2013-08-27T17:37:21ZH"Savages. Neanderthals. Jamaicans" Is Jamaica any different from any other place black people inhabit in this regard? Seriously. Africa? The...<p>&quot;Savages. Neanderthals. Jamaicans&quot;</p>
<p>Is Jamaica any different from any other place black people inhabit in this regard?</p>
<p>Seriously.</p>
<p>Africa? The rest of the Carribean? The Mississippi Delta? The south side of Chicago?</p>
<p>Not a shade&#39;s worth of difference between them when it comes to the attitudes that prevail in them, and the behavior that results from those attitudes......</p>
<p>Oh @Rick.... please don&#39;t fall into the trap that this is a black thing. I really don&#39;t think there are very many black people in Russia, and the posts coming out of there regarding brutality against GLBT aren&#39;t any prettier, not to mention the anti-GLBT violence that goes on around the world unreported...in black and not-so-black countries alike.</p>
<p>There is plenty of blame to go around here. First, and foremost is religion/church. Anytime that issues of morality and social relations are left up to a figurehead (speaking for some God, in the name of something as abstract as religion) to decide and the populace to follow without question is dangerous to any subset of that populace. Second is media. When GLBT are portrayed as pretty boys living only in gentrified areas only in Western countries, instead of being a part of the population living in any part of the world, those &quot;other people&quot; are going to rebel against &quot;outsider influence&quot; or &quot;propaganda&quot;. Third is the plethora of misconceptions that come from #1 and #2. How about the misconception that homosexuals and pedophiles are one in the same? That one never seems to die. Correct information can help. How about the misconception that homosexuals ruin kids lives? You mean to tell me that all those same-sex families out there are living less-than desirable lives? Maybe these &quot;family-oriented&quot; business should start living up to their name and educate everyone on what really constitutes a family.<br />
Again, this is SO not a black thing, just because it occurred in Jamaica.</p>duh commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef01901f09dbad970b2013-08-27T15:42:17Z2013-08-27T15:42:17ZduhAn alternative version of lynch mob that is still inhumanly disgusting.<p>An alternative version of lynch mob that is still inhumanly disgusting.</p>ratbastard commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef01901f099d7c970b2013-08-27T14:27:25Z2013-08-27T14:27:25Zratbastard@DERRICK FROM PHILLY, There are PLENTY of pedo black and other 'people of color' perverts. Tell me you do realize...<p>@DERRICK FROM PHILLY,</p>
<p>There are PLENTY of pedo black and other &#39;people of color&#39; perverts. Tell me you do realize that? Perverts cross all &#39;races&#39;, etc., In fact, some of the worse examples occur in AFRICA where INFANTS and small children are raped because the men think they won&#39;t catch AIDS or because it&#39;s part of some ritual. There are other places around the world where similar atrocities occur, such as those who practice various indigenous &#39;cults&#39; in central and south America, or the many 3rd world places where girls are second or third class and even sold into slavery and the sex industry, or where it&#39;s common and routine for parents or just mom to sell their child [girl or boy]. The sexual fetish for young boys as sex partners/slaves is particularly odious in parts of the middle east/North Africa. </p>MIke commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef0192acc874fb970d2013-08-27T13:46:47Z2013-08-27T13:46:47ZMIkeWhy isn't Jamaica in the US today what South Africa was to the US in the 1970s and 1980s. Companies...<p>Why isn&#39;t Jamaica in the US today what South Africa was to the US in the 1970s and 1980s. Companies couldn&#39;t even invest there because of the backlash.</p>DannyEastVillage commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef01901f08f1f9970b2013-08-27T10:57:30Z2013-08-27T10:57:30ZDannyEastVillagethe two dudes in the blue shirts look as queer as anybody I know.<p>the two dudes in the blue shirts look as queer as anybody I know.</p>DannyEastVillage commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef019104fec436970c2013-08-27T10:56:27Z2013-08-27T10:56:27ZDannyEastVillagethe guys yelling the loudest when doing this are the same ones taking it up the ass at night after...<p>the guys yelling the loudest when doing this are the same ones taking it up the ass at night after they get enough rum in them. I&#39;ve done some of them.</p>Mark commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef01901f0842b0970b2013-08-27T06:41:28Z2013-08-27T06:41:28ZMarkThis is one reason why, as a gay man, I am also a gun owner. That third world bat is...<p>This is one reason why, as a gay man, I am also a gun owner. That third world bat is no match for a loaded Glock.</p>
<p>Forget about trying to disable them. Aim for the heads and end their damn dirty lives.</p>Brian1 commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef0192acc71a06970d2013-08-27T05:52:33Z2013-08-27T06:32:51ZBrian1@hagatha OK, I'll take a whack at what I'm sure you meant as a rhetorical question. How about you keep...<p>@hagatha</p>
<p>OK, I&#39;ll take a whack at what I&#39;m sure you meant as a rhetorical question. How about you keep calling all black people Derrick. What does the commenter Derrick have to do with the anti gay mob in Jamaica? Nothing but skin color, and that&#39;s racist. How about this sentence from a later comment about blacks: &quot;negative productivity, obnoxiousness, lack of consideration and criminal behavior&quot;. Applying these sweeping condemnations to an entire race is textbook racism. You know you&#39;re a racist and you revel in it, so why do you fight the label? </p>Hagatha commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef01901f07e294970b2013-08-27T04:24:08Z2013-08-27T06:32:52ZHagathaAndrew - I should have thought you would have looked it up by now. The high average fertility of African...<p>Andrew - I should have thought you would have looked it up by now. The high average fertility of African females was maintained long after Caucasian intervention brought improved infant survival rates, food supplies, water systems, and medical care which extended life expectancy just enough to create a population explosion. Now you have the vicious circle of population explosion leading to foreign aid which leads to more population which leads to more dependency on foreign aid aggravated by the fact that places like Zimbabwe have destroyed the production systems the colonials built. </p>todd commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef01901f07bbb0970b2013-08-27T03:48:55Z2013-08-27T03:48:55ZtoddOn the lighter side, Jamaica is now a sister country to the USSR.<p>On the lighter side, Jamaica is now a sister country to the USSR.</p>todd commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef019104fd88a5970c2013-08-27T03:45:33Z2013-08-27T03:45:33ZtoddDon't they have the highest rate of child sex trafficking outside of Haiti? Maybe they should spend more time fighting...<p>Don&#39;t they have the highest rate of child sex trafficking outside of Haiti? Maybe they should spend more time fighting drugs and sex traffickers.</p>andrew commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef019104fd5ceb970c2013-08-27T03:13:50Z2013-08-27T03:13:50Zandrew @HAGATHA: I'm still waiting for you to explain your past post claiming that sending food and medicine to Africa causes...<p>@HAGATHA: I&#39;m still waiting for you to explain your past post claiming that sending food and medicine to Africa causes more deaths there than if we leave them alone. Lets hear your twisted logic on that. Why did you say, in a later post, that we should cut off food aid and medicine to Africa because you don&#39;t like their government&#39;s policies toward LGBT people. Should the children pay for the sins of their parents?</p>Hagatha commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef01901f07546b970b2013-08-27T02:27:47Z2013-08-27T02:27:47ZHagathaAndrew- What precisely makes me more or less racist than anyone else? Have I lied about black people?<p>Andrew- What precisely makes me more or less racist than anyone else? Have I lied about black people? </p>bructer commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef0192acc64283970d2013-08-27T02:20:16Z2013-08-27T02:20:16ZbructerIgnorant<p>Ignorant </p>andrew commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef01901f072e2a970b2013-08-27T01:32:46Z2013-08-27T01:32:46ZandrewThere is no doubt that homophobia in Africa and most of the Caribbean Nations is far worse than in Russia....<p>There is no doubt that homophobia in Africa and most of the Caribbean Nations is far worse than in Russia. Just because racists like HAGATHA point it out doesn&#39;t make it false. Unless we on the Left admit it and condemn it, we lose credibility. Unless a problem is recognized, it will not be solved.</p>Bobubye commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef01901f07181b970b2013-08-27T00:59:35Z2013-08-27T00:59:35ZBobubyeStop immigration from Jamaica to the USA immediately; we Gay, tax-paying citizens do not need any more homophobes from the...<p>Stop immigration from Jamaica to the USA immediately; we Gay, tax-paying citizens do not need any more homophobes from the Caribbean, or Russia. We have enough home-grown bigots.</p>thom commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef0192acc5d276970d2013-08-26T23:36:24Z2013-08-26T23:36:24ZthomDO NT VACATON IN THS CEATIN ISLAND!...beautiful, yes. Rape is a way of life there as is his insane homophobia...DON...<p>DO NT VACATON IN THS CEATIN ISLAND!...beautiful, yes. Rape is a way of life there as is his insane homophobia...DON NOT DROP YOYR DOLLARS THERE..There are other places to go that aren&#39;t as satanic..just sayin&#39;</p>Hagatha commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef01901f06d8d6970b2013-08-26T23:25:57Z2013-08-26T23:25:57ZHagathaTony Jazz - In the first place, gay marriage was actually hindered in Maryland by Jennifer Alston and Emmet Burns...<p>Tony Jazz - In the first place, gay marriage was actually hindered in Maryland by Jennifer Alston and Emmet Burns because they wanted to extort gay and liberal support for the elimination of &quot;nuisance crimes&quot; ie to lower the number of blacks arrested for criminal conduct and basically to surrender Baltimore and PG County to the boz. </p>
<p>In the second place, blacks have squandered all good will and charity that has been given them. Enough is enough, and white people of all sexual orientations have had enough of the negative productivity, obnoxiousness, lack of consideration, and criminal behavior.</p>Hagatha commented on 'Five Gay Men Trapped by Angry Mob in Jamaica: VIDEO'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef01901f06d44c970b2013-08-26T23:19:43Z2013-08-26T23:19:43ZHagathaShabaka - It's difficult to imagine how stupid you have to be to equate the condemnation of a culture of...<p>Shabaka - It&#39;s difficult to imagine how stupid you have to be to equate the condemnation of a culture of ignorance and violence with being ignorant and violent.</p>