Calm before the storm!!!!!

Alright guys! I am about to start up a log for the ironman stack from MST with a few other goodies thrown in! Today I received a package with almost everything except for my citruvol....oh I got some VO2 ultra as well! I couldn't wait till mon to start so this is what I did:

Ok so the run down....I know I know you hear those people say you can really feel yada yada from the very first dose.....well VO2 ultra is in that category! It is simply amazing! I received a sample pack of this and felt the very same way I did today so this in no placebo! I have just recently started up crossfit! I have a 10 year gymnastics background and the rest of the time spent weightlifting! So I am no slouch but my endurance sucks right now! However, VO2 makes you feel like you just got a brand new set of lungs! First off, it took me probably twice as long for me really to start huffin and puffin and Second, when I did it took me less time to regain my breath and calm down! My endurance was also greatly enhanced! For those of you who don't know, crossfit combines gymnastics + olympic lifting + calesthinics into one big endurance workout! You might think the WOD (workout of the day) looks easy but you will think twice after you start! Here is how it went down today:

21-15-9 reps of:
full clean with a squat (115lb)
ring dips (easy for me to knock out from gymnastics)

The first round is 21 reps the next is 15 etc etc. You see how fast you can finish and lemme tell you...it is brutal! But with the proper MST supplementation.....my workout was much much better than it would have been! Yesterday I was definately having a hard time especially in the cold weather! Today, after we were done and I regainded my breath, I was ready for something else! I stayed for a while after working on certain things! Sorry for the length of this but I was so excited to let ya'll know just how legit MST supps are! I can't wait to start the full ironman stack (Cre-02/Citruvol XS/Carnage/Cordygen 5). I think I am going to be setting new strength/speed pr's in no time! On a side note! This is the first time I have tried SNS focus XT! This is not only some of the best tasting stuff but it does what is it say's as well! I was ready to go and had some good focus running! This...as well as the WHOLE MST line will definately become a new staple of mine! As a matter of fact I am about to head to the np store to order me some more MST products before the sale ends! Looking forward to trying the new mycogreen out! Think this will greatly aid in recovery and can't wait till the new R.P.G.....no more cough cough....hairballs to deal with if you know what I mean ! Keep it up guys and watch for my log to start next week.

cant wait for the log to start brotha! Great little "lead in" to the log here, and awesome praise for the products. Thanks so much, and I can't wait to see what happens once you have Cre-02 and the other staples of the Ironman on your side. Life as you know it....has changed

Thanks fellas, I can't wait to get things going! Gonna do a little workout this am so I will let ya'll know how it went! By the way, when I get this log going strong, should I keep it here or move it to the review section?

I agree with you VO2 works from the very first dose. I have some coming my way as well, and you can really feel it. I used to use C5 but I think that VO2 is way better. C5 is still good, but I have no need for the time release, and love how quick and hard VO2 kicks in.

Thanks fellas, I can't wait to get things going! Gonna do a little workout this am so I will let ya'll know how it went! By the way, when I get this log going strong, should I keep it here or move it to the review section?

You can run it wherever you want bud...I will be following regardless

Originally Posted by MM11

I agree with you VO2 works from the very first dose. I have some coming my way as well, and you can really feel it. I used to use C5 but I think that VO2 is way better. C5 is still good, but I have no need for the time release, and love how quick and hard VO2 kicks in.

I agree that the product is phenomenal..and thank you for saying so! I personally prefer cordy 5...but I also work 2 jobs and on off days I do 2 workouts in a day, haha....so the 12 hour time release is better for my style of life. If things were different...i'd be a v02 hooker in an instant

Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF

As soon as my stash of C5 runs out I will hit up the VO2..sounds great.

Alright guys, even though I don't have my full stack in yet (everything minus the citruvol) today is going to be the official start day for my quest for strength/endurance with MST as my guide! LETS DO IT!!!!! I am exicted to see what these supps can do! First off, what is the best dosing protocol for the ironman stack? Here is what I was thinking:
cordy 5/Cre-02-2 hours pre-workout
Citruvol-1 hour pre-workout
Carnage-30min pre-workout and post workout

There are a few more goodies I am going to throw into the mix! I also ordered some caf free rag ultra that I can't wait to try, as well as, some mycogreen! So far, I love V02 ultra so I will compare this to cordy 5! Can't think of anything else to add right now but I will try to update often!

*In crossfit, your fran time supposadly tells pretty much how bad **s you are! Which I agree/disagree. It is hard but can see where other workouts can be just, and if not more, challenging! Usually, a good time is between 2:30-3:30 min! I know I could have done much bette doing this at the begging of my workout at the begging of the week! I just wanted to try it out!

Strength: Felt strong but kind of hard to judge today because I didn't have a spotter
Endurance: Felt great but not as good as the other day! Definately could tell it was better than it would have been with no supps but I was definatley huffin and puffin during the Fran workout but again this was at the very end of my workout! I also noticed it took me a little longer to regain my breath too! Maybe I might bump the V02 to 4 caps!
Pumps: Definately had a good pronounced pump going
Thoughts: Great workout! Good strength and endurance but not as good as the day before! I actually felt the BA tingles which I never felt the day before! I was just kind of messing around sat with some different things! Today (mon) will start the seriousness! Stay tuned for todays workout/updates!!!!!!!!

Fran is the workout I described above! Don't ask me why but in crossfit the workouts are named after ladies! Supposadly fran is one of the hardest or the one that test's your ability the most! In crossfit, all your workouts are timed so they are measurable and repeatable!

Fran-
21-15-9 reps for time
Thrusters (basically a front squat with a shoulder press all in one)
Pull ups

So your first round you do 21 reps thrusters then 21 pullups then immediately 15 thrusters 15 pullups then to 9! This is done to see how fast you can complete the whole cycle! Looks alot easier than it is lemme tell ya! I am definately diggin the crossfit workouts though! A good change of pace for me!

I personally never tell anyone to lower the dose of Cre-02 since I personally feel it's the most efficient product on the market today PERIOD. I would say to use 3 Cre-02, 2 c5, and 2 Citruvol for the first day and see how you respond. If all is well, go up to 3 c5 on day two. If all is well, try full doses of each.

I don't think you'll NEED full doses of all 3 products because the oxyceps ATP you get from the Cre-02 and one of the other products at full dose will be enough...but it all depends on what you want more. If you want the added oxygenation bonus, i'd say do full Cre-02 and full Cordygen 5 with half of Citruvol. If you are looking at endurance then i'd say a full Cre-02 and Citruvol and only 1-2 of C5 and you should be perfectly fine.

Thoughts/Rants/The Goods:Strength-
Well, as you can see I hit a PR on deads today! Which felt great! I have a feeling a week or two into the full stack I will be feelin like a beast! Felt strong and solid today but was a little tired today! On the push presses I felt very week though, however, I attribute this to the shoulder probs I have been having with my left shoulder! Slow rehabing, stretching and ice are slowly working their coarse though so it is getting better! Would have really like to have been pushing 185.

Endurance-
Definately had some mega endurance going! I was at the gym almost 2 hours....granted an old gymnastics buddy caught me halfway through my workout and talked my ear off so that kind of slowed me down! But even after all of that, I felt like I could definately stand another 2 hours! I wasn't tired at all and I am still not tired right now! Feel like I could go for another workout right now ! I started giving out some during the freddys revenge workout but after a short break/breather I felt as strong as one would during the beggining of a workout!

Vascularity-
Hadn't really noticed this until my ring strength cycle! Holy ish my veins were poppin out everywhere! Look like I had a roadmap of veins pulsin! This was great! Looking forward to see what the citruvol will do in this department.

Focus-
Definately am liking the Focus xt blend! Can definately tell a difference when I take it! I am always ready to tear the weight up and seem like the ol mind-muscle connection is very strong

O2-
Definately was doing well today! About the only time I got winded was during the freddy's revenge workout. But my resp rate calmed downed rather quick and felt like I could take deeper breathers better! Feeling great!

Side Effects-
None whatsoever

Thoughts-
Today was a great day! Even though I was tired I hit a PR and definately feel like I could have worked out for another 2 more hours! First day has started off with a bang and am already loving the stack! My citruvol comes in tomorrow so definately looking forward to trying this out! Also looking forward to see how the mycogreen treats me!

Thanks CT! Well, I got kind of screwed at work today! So hopefully I will be able to hit the gym before they close tonight! Got stuck working the late shift ! BUT I couldn't resist and ordered 2 more bottles of citruvol and another mycogreen from np! That sale is just sick and can't pass that up! Think I have a full years worth of citruvol now !

Strength-
Definately felt strong today! Ok ok....I am one of those guys who hates working legs! I have the big upper body syndrome! Big upper body but small legs because I just hated working them! But in crossfit, your legs are pretty much worked everyday in some fashion! I have actually grown to like to work them so I can't atomatically assume the supps are the reason I am getting PRs in my leg workouts right now but I know they are no placebo either!

Endurance-
This was definately enhanced and better than yesterday! With the addition on Citruvol, I was expecting this! Due to my limited time, my rest times were slim to none! But it was funny because I never really seemed to get tired! I might burn out but gimme a few SECONDS and I was ready to go! Lovin' this effect! I felt like the energizer bunny!

Vascularity-
Even though I basically only did legs I could see my veins in my forearms and shoulders bulging doing squats! This was definately increased today! Again I credit this to the citruvol!

Focus-
Even though I was tired from workout today, I felt really good, focused, and ready to tear the weight up!!!!! I attributed this to the Focus XT

O2-
Kind of dissappointed in this aspect today! I started breathing heavier faster today and my recovery (breath) took much longer today! Neverthless, I was resting very little between sets! Also, I opted for more endurance in my dosing protocol vs V02 Max! Might switch it up for the VO2 max next time! Definately love when I can catch me breath faster!

Side Effects-
None whatsoever! I did noticed that I started sweating alot faster today! And I got rather hot pretty quickly! I am thinking that this was probably due to the caf in the Focus XT! I got the BA tingles again today but I also got them in my back some today, which is weird because I have never felt them there! It is usually just my face, forehead, and ears!

Thoughts-
So far, this stack has definately been of much needed assistance in my lifting and endurance endevours! I am definately looking forward to the cumulative effects that these supplements have to offer! I am enjoying the ride thus far and can only imaging that things will get even better! Gonna wait a few weeks but am going to throw in a t-boost into the mix pretty soon! Either primal male + Divanex + 6-bromo or DTHC + DTP! We will see! I wanna see what all this stack has to offer before adding anything else! I would like to lose a few lbs to try to get ripped for summer! Looking forward to getting 2 workouts in tomorrow!

Questions!!!!!! How should I dose everything if I workout twice tomorrow???? Thanks

Alright guys! About to hit the gym this am! Today I tried the caf free Rag ultra Blue Raz! It is DELICIOUS!!!!!!!! I mixed it with some 10 cal vitamin water lemonade flavor and it tasted just like cotton candy! MMMMMMM! I could drink this all day!

*Weight fluctuates between 180-185 so I used 185 lbs on bench
*Bench WU: 135 x 10/225 x 5/275 x 1/295 x 1
*Someone jumped in and stole my pull up bar so the first 3 sets I did pulldowns with 170 lbs
*PU were done with a very wide grip and no straps

Strength
Felt very tight and strong today! Unfortunately the reps/endurance just wasn't there this am! However, I can tell my strength is feeling like it is increasing

Endurance
Was dissappointed in this aspect today! Felt very strong, but I couldn't push they weight very long before giving out! A few thoughts on this is that I woke up this am and didn't eat any breakfast! Just a cup of coffee and pre-workout supps! Think the major cause was due to lack of food but I am also pretty sore from the other workouts this week so I think fatigue set in fast! My strength was definately there but not endurance! We will see if this gets better tonight!

Vascularity
I am loving this aspect! Definately an increase in vascularity! I am attributing this to the Citruvol! Even a few hours after my workout, my veins in my forearms and shoulder are just as big as they were during the workout! Love it!

Focus
Didn't take the Focus XT today but I could definately feel the focus blend in the Rag ultra kick in! I felt great, focused, and ready to tear up some weight! This was alot better than I expected! I would say just as good, if not better, than the Focus XT blend by SNS.

02
Definately could tell this was increased today! Didn't get winded at all and felt like I had great breathing capacity during my lifts! I love me some V02 ultra! That is what I attribute it too!

Pump
OMG! This was awesome today! I agree with other reviewers on here that it seemed like I had gained 5 lbs of muscle in one workout! The pumps weren't so intense that I couldn't workout anymore but they were just PERFECT! Enough to get blown up and my muscles feeling tight and looking GREAT! These were the best pumps yet! Rag definately shined in this area!

Side Effects
None at all! I noticed that I didn't get any BA tingles today like I do with Carnage! I also didn't sweat near as much either!

Thoughts
Definately loved this mixed of pre-workout supps today! If pumps, focus, strenght, endurance, 02 is what your after.....check this stack out! It is wonderful! I am loving my ride so far AND I am ONLY 3 days in!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let's see what tonight has to offer!!!!!!!!

Well guys, no workout last night ! Got called into work and didn't get off in time to get to the gym! Let's see what tonight brings though! Think it did my body good to rest last night! Still pretty sore from yesterday am! Think I might try the Rag concotion again that I tried yesterday! That is some good ish! Thanks to CT for that little mix I stole from his log minus the old warrior melon Rag! I def gotta try that when I can get my hands on some!

Alright guys, I have some pent up aggression ready to take out on some weights today!!!! Got screwed with work again yesterday and was just exhausted by the time I got off so I called it a night! Tonight its definately go time! Think I will be dosing some rag, citruvol, and V02 ultra! I like this mix alot! I need some pumps tonight !!!!!

Alright guys, I have some pent up aggression ready to take out on some weights today!!!! Got screwed with work again yesterday and was just exhausted by the time I got off so I called it a night! Tonight its definately go time! Think I will be dosing some rag, citruvol, and V02 ultra! I like this mix alot! I need some pumps tonight !!!!!

Thanks B, things should be more normal next week! I work in a pharmacy and we have just been so short staffed it is not even funny!!!! I am following your log man! Have had my eye on the swole stack so interested to see how it goes for ya!

Alright guys still trying to get my workout's dialed in, along with some PR numbers so I can see if I am improving! Remeber, I am realtively new to crossfit/olympic lifting! I like this new challenge to me! However, I am NOT new to weightlifting! I use to pound, usually, one muscle group a day with vigorous sets/rep schemes! I just have seemed to have hit a plateau and feel the less I do, the more my body is actually responding! I am liking the way my body is transforming with these crossfit/endurance/O-lifting workouts! I think I am starting to look leaner and my muscles harder! Anyway, enough ranting!

Partial Cleans
*This is really the first time I have ever done these*
135 x 3/3
150 x 3
185 x 1/2/1......so in essence this is a PR for me
*I put 205 on the bar and think I could have gotten it but kind of chickened out! Threw it up to the top of my shrug but then backed out from dropping under the bar a tad*

Strict Overhead Barbell Presses (SOBP)
*Left shoulder is definately getting better but still a little nervous to push the heavy weight! Can also tell that I still favor my right due to the injury*

135 x 10
165 x 5/5....then went to do 2 sets of push presses

Push Presses

165 x 5
135 x 10

*I have got to get more shoulder and wrist flexibility! It is hard for me to get my elbows up high enough to rest the bar on my shoulders!*

Was suppose to do a deadlift WOD and see if I can PR on deads today but the hamstring is still KILLING me! I went up to 335 and on about the 5th rep felt it twinge and decided to back off and let it rest! With age I have learned that sometimes working through the pain is not the best solution !

Doesn't seem like a lot but am loving adding the ring strength at the end of my workout! Think it is definately help add in more defination to all aspects of my upper body! Esp in the shoulder/triceps!

Thoughts/Rants/The Goods:

Strength
Felt very strong today! I didn't go for any PRs although I felt like I would have broken my deadlift PR if my stupid hamstring wasn't bothering me! But definately can feel I have an increase in strength

Endurance
This was great today! Even though you probably couldn't much tell in my sets, my rest time between sets was prob 30 secs! I was blazing through the workout and during the ring strength sequence didn't rest any! I was definately impressed with this aspect tonight

Focus
I get a good sharp focus that is awesome with Rag ultra! Definately alot better than I thought! I fig that the SNS Focus XT blend would beat the Rag blend out but I think I will give the edge to the Rag but not by a whole lot

02
Wow! Awesome today! I don't think I got winded at all! I love when I feel like I can breath at the gym! This stack is definately great in this department AS WELL!!!!

Pumps
Tonight was eeehhhhh! Not the best pumps! They were ok but definately not like the other day! I have a few thoughts on this though! I ate some food pretty close to taking the supps which may have caused it and 2, I wasn't doing a very high rep range! Nevertheless, my muscles felt rock hard!!!!!

Side Effect
None whatsoever

Thoughts
Definately love EVERY aspect of these supplements! I think I will be blowing through some plateaus here pretty quick! Just need to get the workouts dialed in better! I like order and like to know days ahead of time what I want/need to do and I just don't have that organization yet! This weekend I will try to post some pics/stats see ya'll can see what I am working with! I look forward to each and every workout now! These supps have definately become a staple! Thanks MST and keep it up! Looking forward to sum tasty RPG!!!!!! Stay tuned because I WILL ONLY GET BETTER!!!!!!!

Bubba you are one strong SOB champ!! Power to weight ratio is unbelievable. Can I suggest something with your PLCAR and ALCAR dosing. Take the ALCAR: 2g doses 1 hour after waking and 2 hours pre workout. Take the PLCAR: 1g doses with 1 at waking,1 during workout,and 1 pre bed. See where that gets you. MST supps are treating you well here TT...

Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons

Thanks AZ, appreciate the kind words! I don't feel like I am strong enough though ! I always want more!!!!! I like your dosing protocol for the ALCAR/PLCAR! Looks solid! thanks man! Will def try this out! I have another question! Will it hurt if I switch back and forth between Cre-02 and Rag ultra some or should I just stay strictly on the Cre-02 then when I run out switch to the Rag? Just was thinking I could use the Cre-02 when I am looking for pure strength and then days when I want to really pump it up use the Rag. Thanks for all the help!

Alright guys here is the plan! Going to give mini-reviews every sunday with possible measurements/pics! Will post some pics/measurements today to see how my progress is coming! Will post all of this after my workout today! I have another question for you! I will be trying to hit 2 workouts per day a few days outa the week! What is a good supp protocol and dosing??? Should I use full dose of Cre-02/Cit/Cordy 5/Carnage at one workout and then maybe 1-2 serving of rag and maybe V02 ultra (if needed) at the other??? Most likely one workout will be a crossfit one and the other more of a powerlifting strength one! On days I work 12-830p I am going to try to hit my crossfit workout at 6am and then my powerlifting workout around 9 pm! So how should I dose all my stuff?

I would keep the CreO2 a constant in your system and the Rag can be used as you like. MST reps can chime in here on this as well.

I completely agree here. Cre-02 is not overbearing on the creatine content (2g of enteric coated goodness) so you can take daily even WITH Rag and you will still be getting 5g. The reason Cre-02 is such a phenomenal product is because with the enteric coating, it is 5x the product than it looks like on paper...and people don't know it until they use it.

you're doing a great job man...and I love your strength on the cleans. were those power cleans or olympic style from the ground?

I completely agree here. Cre-02 is not overbearing on the creatine content (2g of enteric coated goodness) so you can take daily even WITH Rag and you will still be getting 5g. The reason Cre-02 is such a phenomenal product is because with the enteric coating, it is 5x the product than it looks like on paper...and people don't know it until they use it.

you're doing a great job man...and I love your strength on the cleans. were those power cleans or olympic style from the ground?

Thanks CT for all the help! I am lovin ALL of the MST products I have tried! I opted for power cleans in the workout because I PLANNED on trying to PR in deads but an old Hammy injury is getting in the way of lifting heavy for those!