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Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

So maybe you should stop watching all sports? That comment makes you sound like an idiot. Purdue fans, smh.

If that's your prerogative. Only idiots want a rival school to be bad as opposed to the school/team they support be good. There's a gigantic difference between enjoying watching good basketball players play and watching good basketball players play and being of the opinion that somehow since you like their shirt it makes you "better." "shake your head" all you want, it's true.

Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

If that's your prerogative. Only idiots want a rival school to be bad as opposed to the school/team they support be good. There's a gigantic difference between enjoying watching good basketball players play and watching good basketball players play and being of the opinion that somehow since you like their shirt it makes you "better." "shake your head" all you want, it's true.

I'm not sure I follow. I think most people want their school/team to be good while their biggest rivals struggle. It's not just a hoosierguy thing or an IU fan thing--you would be lying if you told me you didn't take a little bit of joy when IU was down and Purdue was up.

Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

I'm not sure I follow. I think most people want their school/team to be good while their biggest rivals struggle. It's not just a hoosierguy thing or an IU fan thing--you would be lying if you told me you didn't take a little bit of joy when IU was down and Purdue was up.

No I wouldn't. The only time I care about what IU's doing any more than any other Big Ten school is when they're playing Purdue or going after the same recruits. This is a massive, massive problem within the Purdue fanbase. The "little brother" thing isn't just IU knocking Purdue, it's engrained in Purdue's culture. Look at the blogs and message boards. It's pathetic and hurts the school.

Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

Wow, on the other message boards conversation has already turned to. What are the chances we keep Zeller. Which isn't as ridiculous as it sounds.

My thoughts are this

1 - Zeller may stay if we win it all, so he can have back to back titles, something his brother didn't do. And if we don't he might stay to try and win one.

2 - Zeller is smart about his future. Yes he will be a later pick in the 2014 NBA draft. But that can be better for a player. You go to a better team, have more quality veterans to learn from. And likely better coaching. And Zeller knows, you don't make your money in the NBA on your rookie deal. Your rookie deal is about improving as much as possible to get more money on later deals.

Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

Anyone who thinks Zeller is going to stick around for another year is living in a dream world. I've said it before, but it looks like it needs to be said again: Barring injury, there is not a snowball's chance in hell that Zeller returns to Indiana. For Christ's sake, we basically just gave his scholarship to Noah Vonleh.

Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

Anyone who thinks Zeller is going to stick around for another year is living in a dream world. I've said it before, but it looks like it needs to be said again: Barring injury, there is not a snowball's chance in hell that Zeller returns to Indiana. For Christ's sake, we basically just gave his scholarship to Noah Vonleh.

People who know him seem to think differently. Hate to break it to you. But just because its your opinion, doesn't make it virtual fact.

If Zeller only cared about the NBA he would already have left.

And he obviously hasn't decided even, because he is killing himself in the classroom to be on pace for a 3 year degree.

Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

People who know him seem to think differently. Hate to break it to you. But just because its your opinion, doesn't make it virtual fact.

If Zeller only cared about the NBA he would already have left.

And he obviously hasn't decided even, because he is killing himself in the classroom to be on pace for a 3 year degree.

Name your wager. My opinion is my opinion, but it is rooted in deep, deep common sense and widely held beliefs.

Oh, and he's on pace for a degree in under three years. He had so many classes in high school that he got college credit for, took so many summer classes, that he could graduate in less than three years.

Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

Name your wager. My opinion is my opinion, but it is rooted in deep, deep common sense and widely held beliefs.

Oh, and he's on pace for a degree in under three years. He had so many classes in high school that he got college credit for, took so many summer classes, that he could graduate in less than three years.

Well unless its less than 2 your point seems to be nonexistent. Because he wouldn't have a degree when leaving. So it begs the question why he is killing himself in the classroom. And from what I have heard he hasn't even taken I-core yet. Which with his schedule means he can't take it till next summer. And after I-core he has 30 credit hours give or take.

I don't care about betting. Since I don't really know what he is going to do. And just because its your opinion doesn't make it widely held belief. On other boards people are saying its around 50-50. I believe a mod on hoosiersportsnation even referred to it as 60-40 in our favor.

Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

Well unless its less than 2 your point seems to be nonexistent. Because he wouldn't have a degree when leaving. So it begs the question why he is killing himself in the classroom. And from what I have heard he hasn't even taken I-core yet. Which with his schedule means he can't take it till next summer. And after I-core he has 30 credit hours give or take.

I don't care about betting. Since I don't really know what he is going to do. And just because its your opinion doesn't make it widely held belief. On other boards people are saying its around 50-50. I believe a mod on hoosiersportsnation even referred to it as 60-40 in our favor.

I have not seen a reputable place or person say that Zeller is 50/50 on returning. The staff is sure expecting for him to be gone. The writing is on the wall. If you want to pump rainbows into your *** and hold onto the hope that he is staying, don't let me stop you But I am not getting my hopes up.

Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

and why are you comparing zeller to NFL dudes the systems are totally different.

Exactly. The draft in 2014 is so much stronger than this year. He would be pretty stupid to stay. Not to mention the scholarship situation. I think Noah committing made it pretty clear Cody is gone. If by some miracle he stays, well that's awesome.

Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

No, he isn't. No one on this board or anyone other than Cody or his parents knows what he's going to do.

Of course I don't "know" what he is going to do, but get real people. No one "knew" that Anthony Davis was going to go pro at this point last year, but it was a commonly held belief that he would. Everyone seemed to understand this and take it for what it was. I don't see why so many people are in denial about it around here.

Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

You know people, not everyone only cares about getting the biggest pay day possible as soon as possible. Based on what people say who are a lot closer to the Zeller family say it seems to me that it is highly likely he stays to get his degree before going to the NBA.

Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

Now for the real issue as to why I came into this thread. ****ing Big Ten Network and their greedy ****ing asses. No I will not pay to watch the IU game on some ****** *** streaming service. Stop being so ****ing greedy, or start ****ing paying the players. I hated the idea of the BTN when I first heard of it, now I hate it even more.

Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

You know people, not everyone only cares about getting the biggest pay day possible as soon as possible. Based on what people say who are a lot closer to the Zeller family say it seems to me that it is highly likely he stays to get his degree before going to the NBA.

Little piece of news for those of us who think it's either "degree or NBA": You can do both. Athletes do it all the time. He can finish up his classes during the summer and earn a degree. There are a number of ways he can accomplish this. He isn't the first elite athlete in basketball history to value his education.

I'm done arguing this, but I welcome any and all wagers on Cody staying in school. Lay some odds on me.

Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

Now for the real issue as to why I came into this thread. ****ing Big Ten Network and their greedy ****ing asses. No I will not pay to watch the IU game on some ****** *** streaming service. Stop being so ****ing greedy, or start ****ing paying the players. I hated the idea of the BTN when I first heard of it, now I hate it even more.

This is courtesy of Jeff Rabjohns:

There has been a lot of conversation about the BTN.com broadcast of tonight's game, so I reached out to the Big Ten Network for an explanation of how things work.

Below is the response from Elizabeth Conlisk, the BTN's vice president of communications.

The IU-North Daktoa State game will be replayed Tuesday at 5 p.m. (Eastern) on the Big Ten Network.

"I understand that folks are disappointed it's not airing on BTN tonight. We are airing the Central Michigan at Iowa game at 7: 30 PM ET, so there's a conflict. Last Friday, we had nine Big Ten teams playing, and the game we aired was Bryant at Indiana. Every Big Ten team will appear at least once on the Big Ten Digital Network this season, and tonight is IU's only appearance on BTDN, the fewest of any Big Ten team. We'd certainly prefer to air IU, since IU men's basketball games are top rated, but we have to be fair to all the schools. It's also important to note that extra channels are only available on football Saturdays, and with so many Big Ten games scheduled for the same date and time, we don't have a choice."