It's not that much powder to snort. If you really want to cut down on how much powder there is just rig it up in a syringe and put the water/oxymorphone solution on a plate or something and let the water evaporate, you will be left with almost pure oxymorphone powder.

And oxymorphone is soluble in water so the micron filter won't filter any oxymorphonr out, that's just a fact.

It's not that much powder to snort. If you really want to cut down on how much powder there is just rig it up in a syringe and put the water/oxymorphone solution on a plate or something and let the water evaporate, you will be left with almost pure oxymorphone powder.

And oxymorphone is soluble in water so the micron filter won't filter any oxymorphonr out, that's just a fact.

Its a lot of powder if you are doing 3 or 4 Opana IR 10mg. Also, how would the syringe seperate the binders and/or fillers without some type of filter? I mean I have a 100unit 30gauge insulin needle, are you saying the binders/fillers wont get through the small needle?

Its a lot of powder if you are doing 3 or 4 Opana IR 10mg. Also, how would the syringe seperate the binders and/or fillers without some type of filter? I mean I have a 100unit 30gauge insulin needle, are you saying the binders/fillers wont get through the small needle?

He isn't planning to IV the Opana (not yet anyway),
I'm certain he was asking/trying to figure out what OxyMorph meant when he said "rig it up" in his somewhat confusing post, originally he wanted to insufflate the oxymorphone and was asking about that to try to figure out how to do what OxyMorph suggested...

...Although I am skeptical if that would even work in the first place, idk what he was thinking but...
How the hell is rigging up the Opana in a syringe going to reduce the amount of powder?
That was the question in the first place....

I think the answer is: It isn't....
I've been dealing with Opana's (IR & ER) for a long time and physiologically there is no way for that to be possible, sorry OM

Whoops, I presumed he was putting it in his arm, too. If you're sniffing the pills I don't think there's much of an answer that doesn't involve first dissolving them.

A micron filter will not remove the oxymorphone because it's much much smaller than the pores in the filter. It can be hard to get an idea for the scale of things in the microscopic world, but trust me. Bacteria, clumps of insoluble compounds, and other nasties are HUGE compared to an oxymorphone molecule.

a 10mg opana IR does not have that much powder. c'mon, i shoot them all the time. granted, it does have a bit of binders, but it really isnt that bad. i would not worry about it, and I shoot them all the time.. but then again, what do i know?

a 10mg opana IR does not have that much powder. c'mon, i shoot them all the time. granted, it does have a bit of binders, but it really isnt that bad. i would not worry about it, and I shoot them all the time.. but then again, what do i know?

Apparantly you don't know much at all

edit - thought you were telling him that it was fine to shoot, lol. insuffillation should be ok

It's not THAT much powder... but if you're doing a couple of them, that could get uncomfortable.

Do yourself a favor and DO NOT eat them. Horrible oral bioavailibilty. Your next best bet besides IV, is going to be:

1. Crush the desired amount up into a fine powder, and add some water to it and suck it up into an oral syringe.
2. Inject this solution into your anus. Vaseline helps a little. Lay on your side for a few minutes. Let it really absorb well.

Sounds gross, but you won't be thinking its gross 10 minutes after you do it. It will hit you very hard and i guarantee you will love it. It's better than insulfating IMO. Plugging works wonders with A LOT of opioid and other drugs for that matter.

Well after plugging 1 Opana IR 10mg and insuffillating 4 Opana IR 10mg pills over a 5 hour period without much of any buzz, I wonder what the possible issues are. 2 days ago I could insuffillate 2 of them and get buzzed but now I guess I am doing something wrong?

Is it because my nose is all covered in fillers and binders and needs to be flushed out or something? How do you guys deal with insuffillating all that powder over a couple days and still get buzzed? Do I need to irriagte my nose out with water or saline or something to clean it out so that the vessels in my nose will be cleaned off or something?

How do you compare plugging Opana IR 10mg to insuffillating? Faster rush? Longer duration? How about the mgs differences to get the same effect plugging compared to insuffillating? Does one ROA, plugging and insuffillating, need more pills than the other to get the desired effect?

man, I wish I could find hydromorphone/oxymorphone in my home town, I've never gotten to try either one.

strongest narcotic I can get my hands on is the 100mcg/hr fentanyl patches, and of course oxys..

when i tried hydromorphone, i had about a 10mg oxy tolerance as opposed about a 30mg at my highest, and i could ONLY feel a light buzz from 4mg insufflated, even though intranasal BA is higher than oral for HM. i hear it is just like that, and that shooting is the best route since HM is known for it's strong rush.

Oxymorphone, on the other hand will FUCK YOUR ASS UP with just railing a few specks of dust off of the inside of the pill. (it's and exaggeration, but seriously 1mg had me very warm and euphoric for like 6 hours, but not necessarily nodding...)

Well I dont want to IV, but I insuffillated 3 Opana IR 10mg pills approximately 2 minutes apart from each other, and only got a small feeling from them. There must be a way to insuffillate at a more efficient way. I mean that is A LOT of powder to insuffillate in that time frame.

Any ideas as to how to maximize insuffillation with that much powder from binders amd fillers? There must be a way to get most of the oxymorphone when insuffillating Opana IR 10mg tabs.

Damn you Americans and your oxymorphone. I want some so bad!!!!!!!!!!!!! But unfortunately i dont think there is a single canadian pill out there that has oxymorphone in it. We get a lot of hydromoph here though, but i find that to be too clean. Strong as hell and kills pain like you wouldnt believe, but the oxy drugs have such a nice buzz with them. I know that when you take something codiene related you liver turns about 10% of it to the morphine equivalnt (ex when u take 50mg of oxycodone your precious liver rewards you with 5mg of oxymorphone). Does anyone know if this still happens when you snort pills? With snorting you lose the first pass matabolization process so does that mean you miss out on the oxymorphone convertion? Also does anyone know if there is a way to get your liver to create more of the oxymorphone from the oxycodone? I hear its some enszyme that does this, im geussing the same one that converts codiene to morphine and hydrocodone to hydromorphone. Does anyone know what this enszyme is and if you can take it as a suppliment? Damn what id do for just one good oxymorphone, just to try, maybe some day god will drop one from the sky and right up my nose somehow. Heres to miricles, lol.

On wesleys topic about the IR's and the amount of powder that comes with them, is there anyone that knows how to get rid of the binders? I get OxyCodoneIR 20mg for cheap cause no one wants them cause there big and shitty to snort. There like really big, bust up way bigger then an 80 and really dont have much drug in em. Almost like snorting flower, fills the nose and tickels the throat and oxycodone isnt nearly as strong as oxymorphone so its quiet a noseful sometimes. I love snorting though and dont want to give it up. I also dont want to give up saving 4 bucks a pill compared to the Contin 20s. When you got a daily habit, 4 bucks a pill is a big difference. Does anyone know if cold water seperation with get rid of the binders? If it did could u just let the water evapourate out and snort whatever is leftover? I would like some advice on this before i waste some every so precious pills. I barely have enough cash for the pills i do, sure cant afford to waste any

Last edited by beezer420; 16-07-2009 at 08:52.
Reason: More thoghts and questions

so was this . doesnt really sound like mod talk man. he was just expressing an opinion.

See my comment below. Advising the OP to not waste such a precious drug is not an opinion, its peer-pressure.

Originally Posted by vicodelicious

edit - if you dont have something nice to say, dont. - leftwing

Don't you dare tell me wether or not my opinions are stupid.

I think I already "dared". This is a harm reduction site, not some trashy drug forum where we help members get the best high. Your statement is pressuring the OP to try a more extreme route of administration than originally intended.

So this is me standing up and telling you to keep those comments to yourself. Were here to help provide the safest information possible. If you have a problem with it, PM a senior moderator.

when i tried hydromorphone, i had about a 10mg oxy tolerance as opposed about a 30mg at my highest, and i could ONLY feel a light buzz from 4mg insufflated, even though intranasal BA is higher than oral for HM. i hear it is just like that, and that shooting is the best route since HM is known for it's strong rush.

Oxymorphone, on the other hand will FUCK YOUR ASS UP with just railing a few specks of dust off of the inside of the pill. (it's and exaggeration, but seriously 1mg had me very warm and euphoric for like 6 hours, but not necessarily nodding...)

Yeah, i've been on Hydromorphone 4mg's 6X daily for a long time and sniffing 4mg's is about 50% BA and realistically 4mg's sniffed barely gets me buzzed as well. I always had to do upwards of 12mg's at once sniffed to really feel hydromorphone that ROA. It is NOTHING like IV'ing it though. I'm not recommend you do so, but with proper equipment like a micron filter (I use .20um's, if I must IV which is really rare) IV'ing 8mg's will put you on your ass. The rush is ridiculous. Too bad there isn't much besides a standard opiate buzz after the rush ends in a few minutes. The small opiate buzz is only active for about an hour too. Opiate crack is what it is! Love it, but it's opiate crack.

Oxymorphone though, I've never had. My Dr. suggested it before but my insurance was like "no no no way" we won't cover that. If you ahve ever seen the price of Oxymorphone without insurance you would gladly keep the Hydromorphone script instead. It's like 1/20th the price.