* Mr. BROWN of California. Mr. Speaker, on this the 25th anniversary of the first Moon landing, I would like to insert into the Record the eloquent remarks of Mr. Neil Armstrong, the first human to set foot on the surface of another world. These remarks were given at the White House today during a ceremony commemorating the Apollo 11 mission.

Wilbur Wright once noted that the only bird that cold talk was the parrot, and he didn't fly very well. So I'll be brief. This week America has been recalling the Apollo program and reliving the memories of those times in which so many of us here, colleagues here in the first rows, were immersed. Our old astrogeology mentor, Gene Shoemaker, even called in one of his comets to mark the occasion with spectacular Jovian fireworks. And reminding us once again of the power and consequence of celestial extracurricular activities.

Many Americans were part of Apollo, about one or two in each thousand citizens, all across the country. They were asked by their country to do the impossible--to envisage the design and to build a method of breaking the bonds of earth's gravity and then sally forth to visit another heavenly body. The principal elements--leaving earth, navigating in space and descending to a planet unencumbered with runways and traffic control--would include major requirements necessary for a space-faring people.

Today a space shuttle flies overhead with an international crew. A number of countries have international space programs. During the space age we have increased our knowledge of our universe a thousand-fold.

Today we have with us a group of students, among America's best. To you we say we have only completed a beginning. We leave you much that is undone. There are great ideas undiscovered, breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of the truth's protective layers. There are many places to go beyond belief. Those challenges are yours--in many fields, not the least of which is space, because there lies human destiny.

I think that the fact that so many here know so little science makes it impossible to explain how we went to the moon. There is the immutable assumption that everything works the same there as there in spite of the dramatic difference in environment.The assumption that any radiation would stop the trip is also evident.And calling anyone who disagrees a shill certainly doesn't help you gain a wider knowledge of the subject and the science.In other words, you are to stupid to explain it to and you simple refuse to change that.

Did Americans land on the moon 1969 when the whole world was watching!? No!why!?Because, whole world was watching and there's numerous things that have could go wrong! Even the "smallest" glitch could cause fiasco...and you got whole world watching it...and you got "bad,mean Russians" just waiting for Americans to "slip"So, they recorded that in studio...Think about it!!!Maybe they went to moon numerous time before that and after that...I don't know...but I'm pretty sure people didn't see real landing on the moon that 1969.Think about it...it's just that simple!

Did Americans land on the moon 1969 when the whole world was watching!? No!why!?Because, whole world was watching and there's numerous things that have could go wrong! Even the "smallest" glitch could cause fiasco...and you got whole world watching it...and you got "bad,mean Russians" just waiting for Americans to "slip"So, they recorded that in studio...Think about it!!!Maybe they went to moon numerous time before that and after that...I don't know...but I'm pretty sure people didn't see real landing on the moon that 1969.Think about it...it's just that simple!

anyone who thinks the apollo missions landed man on the moon are fucked in the head, period.And guess what, i've even had lunch with apollo astronot charlie duke, i bet even the shills here can't claim that !!

Did Americans land on the moon 1969 when the whole world was watching!? No!why!?Because, whole world was watching and there's numerous things that have could go wrong! Even the "smallest" glitch could cause fiasco...and you got whole world watching it...and you got "bad,mean Russians" just waiting for Americans to "slip"So, they recorded that in studio...Think about it!!!Maybe they went to moon numerous time before that and after that...I don't know...but I'm pretty sure people didn't see real landing on the moon that 1969.Think about it...it's just that simple!

anyone who thinks the apollo missions landed man on the moon are fucked in the head, period.And guess what, i've even had lunch with apollo astronot charlie duke, i bet even the shills here can't claim that !!

I'll make these final comments and then drop out of this conversation. Some people on this thread seem angry that Neil Armstrong got to the moon, so they concoct all kinds of reasons to prove he didn't go there. Some ancient Greek once said that humans raise up gods so they can tear them down. I think this means that ordinary, non heroic people, which is about 99.9% of the population, hates the thought that some extraordinary people do amazing things. I think maybe that's what's occurring here with the angry posts insisting that this one extraordinary man did an extraordinary thing.

In the 35 years I knew Neil I never asked him the stupid question of "Did you really go to the moon?" because in casual conversations on other subjects he referenced things having to do with him landing on the moon. There is a famous shot that Aldrin took of Neil just after they landed and before Neil got out of the Lander, and his eyes are red rimmed and glassy. I joked to him that it looked like he had just finished a two day drinking binge and he said that in space, blood tends to congregate in mucus membranes like around the eyes. Many of those comments told me that he had been on the moon. And this thing I'll tell you about the man...he would be the last person in the world to lie. He was that straight an arrow. He was the guy every parent would hope their son would grow up to be like.

You non believers should move on to an easier target, like the president of the United States.

I'll make these final comments and then drop out of this conversation. Some people on this thread seem angry that Neil Armstrong got to the moon, so they concoct all kinds of reasons to prove he didn't go there. Some ancient Greek once said that humans raise up gods so they can tear them down. I think this means that ordinary, non heroic people, which is about 99.9% of the population, hates the thought that some extraordinary people do amazing things. I think maybe that's what's occurring here with the angry posts insisting that this one extraordinary man did an extraordinary thing.

In the 35 years I knew Neil I never asked him the stupid question of "Did you really go to the moon?" because in casual conversations on other subjects he referenced things having to do with him landing on the moon. There is a famous shot that Aldrin took of Neil just after they landed and before Neil got out of the Lander, and his eyes are red rimmed and glassy. I joked to him that it looked like he had just finished a two day drinking binge and he said that in space, blood tends to congregate in mucus membranes like around the eyes. Many of those comments told me that he had been on the moon. And this thing I'll tell you about the man...he would be the last person in the world to lie. He was that straight an arrow. He was the guy every parent would hope their son would grow up to be like.

You non believers should move on to an easier target, like the president of the United States.

Quoting: Mr. Weird

I respect your opinion, but...you think Neil would be like:"Listen, man I never been on the moon...you know how it is!We still cool right!?"

He made his deal with government(at least), so he had to keep his mouth shut

The problem with the government (or any other organization) supposedly having tech that far advanced is that technology does not develop in isolation. Advances in one field most often lead to advances in others. The sciences are related. For some group to have far advanced tech it begs the question how nobody else could happen upon similar advances.

Quoting: Weasel_Turbine

1/ There is just one group : the euro-american empire. World gov is a reality.2/ It is not development and advancements so much as it is tech given to the shadow gov by the Aliums.3/ Managing the different circles, from the public circle to the most totally far out there circle, takes mucho money and resources indeed, hence the current financial/criminal madness.4/ Building up rationalizations as to why something isnt possible or likely, without having tested the hypothesis by its own rules (and inside the paradigm it belongs to) isn't sound reasoning. It's just an expression of bias, a mental immune system reacting to change induced by strange ideas.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16938172

Again with the appeal to magic. There is no proof of the above. There is proof that the Apollo hardware was capable of making it to the Moon and back. No magic or aliens needed.

If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly. - Danth's Law

I'll make these final comments and then drop out of this conversation. Some people on this thread seem angry that Neil Armstrong got to the moon, so they concoct all kinds of reasons to prove he didn't go there. Some ancient Greek once said that humans raise up gods so they can tear them down. I think this means that ordinary, non heroic people, which is about 99.9% of the population, hates the thought that some extraordinary people do amazing things. I think maybe that's what's occurring here with the angry posts insisting that this one extraordinary man did an extraordinary thing.

In the 35 years I knew Neil I never asked him the stupid question of "Did you really go to the moon?" because in casual conversations on other subjects he referenced things having to do with him landing on the moon. There is a famous shot that Aldrin took of Neil just after they landed and before Neil got out of the Lander, and his eyes are red rimmed and glassy. I joked to him that it looked like he had just finished a two day drinking binge and he said that in space, blood tends to congregate in mucus membranes like around the eyes. Many of those comments told me that he had been on the moon. And this thing I'll tell you about the man...he would be the last person in the world to lie. He was that straight an arrow. He was the guy every parent would hope their son would grow up to be like.

You non believers should move on to an easier target, like the president of the United States.

* Mr. BROWN of California. Mr. Speaker, on this the 25th anniversary of the first Moon landing, I would like to insert into the Record the eloquent remarks of Mr. Neil Armstrong, the first human to set foot on the surface of another world. These remarks were given at the White House today during a ceremony commemorating the Apollo 11 mission.

Wilbur Wright once noted that the only bird that cold talk was the parrot, and he didn't fly very well. So I'll be brief. This week America has been recalling the Apollo program and reliving the memories of those times in which so many of us here, colleagues here in the first rows, were immersed. Our old astrogeology mentor, Gene Shoemaker, even called in one of his comets to mark the occasion with spectacular Jovian fireworks. And reminding us once again of the power and consequence of celestial extracurricular activities.

Many Americans were part of Apollo, about one or two in each thousand citizens, all across the country. They were asked by their country to do the impossible--to envisage the design and to build a method of breaking the bonds of earth's gravity and then sally forth to visit another heavenly body. The principal elements--leaving earth, navigating in space and descending to a planet unencumbered with runways and traffic control--would include major requirements necessary for a space-faring people.

Today a space shuttle flies overhead with an international crew. A number of countries have international space programs. During the space age we have increased our knowledge of our universe a thousand-fold.

Today we have with us a group of students, among America's best. To you we say we have only completed a beginning. We leave you much that is undone. There are great ideas undiscovered, breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of the truth's protective layers. There are many places to go beyond belief. Those challenges are yours--in many fields, not the least of which is space, because there lies human destiny.

So to sum up :Neil implies he is a PARROT.Then he challenges YOU to "remove one of the truth's protective layers" and go to " many places to go beyond belief".

But sheeple gonna sheeple.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16938172

You mean like, discovering a third Van Allen Belt?

Or perhaps the Apollo Program itself might make discoveries about the origin of the Moon -- which has implications for planetary formation, which leads not just to new information about extra-solar planets, but about the geologic stability and recoverable resources of our own planet.

Or perhaps -- since he was heavily involved in the space sciences -- he might mean new discoveries in how to live and work in space. New technologies to make the passage to orbit more economical. New developments in long-term sustainability.

I mean, really -- is he going to go in front of the HOUSE (who you would think would be in on any world-spanning nefarious plot already) and in the context of talking about the Apollo Program, the Space Shuttle, and other pioneers like the Wright Brothers drop a line meant to imply that everything else in his talk was a lie and you really should be thinking about the Nazi Flying Saucers housed at the North Pole?

Did Americans land on the moon 1969 when the whole world was watching!? No!why!?Because, whole world was watching and there's numerous things that have could go wrong! Even the "smallest" glitch could cause fiasco...and you got whole world watching it...and you got "bad,mean Russians" just waiting for Americans to "slip"So, they recorded that in studio...Think about it!!!Maybe they went to moon numerous time before that and after that...I don't know...but I'm pretty sure people didn't see real landing on the moon that 1969.Think about it...it's just that simple!

The problem with the government (or any other organization) supposedly having tech that far advanced is that technology does not develop in isolation. Advances in one field most often lead to advances in others. The sciences are related. For some group to have far advanced tech it begs the question how nobody else could happen upon similar advances.

Quoting: Weasel_Turbine

1/ There is just one group : the euro-american empire. World gov is a reality.2/ It is not development and advancements so much as it is tech given to the shadow gov by the Aliums.3/ Managing the different circles, from the public circle to the most totally far out there circle, takes mucho money and resources indeed, hence the current financial/criminal madness.4/ Building up rationalizations as to why something isnt possible or likely, without having tested the hypothesis by its own rules (and inside the paradigm it belongs to) isn't sound reasoning. It's just an expression of bias, a mental immune system reacting to change induced by strange ideas.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16938172

Again with the appeal to magic. There is no proof of the above. There is proof that the Apollo hardware was capable of making it to the Moon and back. No magic or aliens needed.

Quoting: Weasel_Turbine

Any significantly advanced technology will appeart as magic to idiots.

Clearly the belts are 3D but that doesn't mean they thick and can't be easily gone around.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4126404

Oh my, you have a lot of studying to do!

Quoting: Just the facts!

That's rather funny coming from someone as incredibly dense as you.

You're to dumb to process the information in your own thread.See Weasel Turbine's post on Page 2.

Nothing about the dimensions and location of the VARBs is secret.There are hundreds of entities that operate hardware in the Belts.Nothing about the path of the Apollo flights is secret.Everybody with a telescope could see it.

And, unless you know the actual radiation levels and the durations of exposure, all that is meaningless anyway.

If YOUR claim is that flying to the Moon is impossible, it is YOU who will have to proof it.Just shrieking RADIATION!!!!11!!OMG!!!11! like some hysterical ignorant radiophobe won't cut it.

An idea is not responsible for the people who believe in it. — Don Marquis

Hatred is a cancer upon the world.It rots the mind and blackens the heart.

Clearly the belts are 3D but that doesn't mean they thick and can't be easily gone around.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4126404

Oh my, you have a lot of studying to do!

Quoting: Just the facts!

That's rather funny coming from someone as incredibly dense as you.

You're to dumb to process the information in your own thread.See Weasel Turbine's post on Page 2.

Nothing about the dimensions and location of the VARBs is secret.There are hundreds of entities that operate hardware in the Belts.Nothing about the path of the Apollo flights is secret.Everybody with a telescope could see it.

And, unless you know the actual radiation levels and the durations of exposure, all that is meaningless anyway.

If YOUR claim is that flying to the Moon is impossible, it is YOU who will have to proof it.Just shrieking RADIATION!!!!11!!OMG!!!11! like some hysterical ignorant radiophobe won't cut it.

Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

I didn't say that we didn't go to the moon!

I asked why didn't we know about this radiation belt at the time?

After all, we must have passed through it? Or maybe, if we believe you we went round it?!

"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable must be the truth"