I know two wrongs don't make a right, but I feel compelled to generate my own robo-call to repubs inferring that McCain was actually in league with the North Vietnamese because a real true-blue, American Patriot would have escaped like Rambo. Maybe in 5 years, McCain began to like the commies? Hmmmm? Maybe W was on to something in 2000??

Okay then. I think that was a fair question of mine. I am not the MSM you are referring to, but I find it somewhat hippocritical to loudly lament the Republican's behaviour of constant lying (which there is no doubt about in my mind either) and being giving a damn about being a bit more careful oneself.But maybe that is a point too sophisticated for this form of (cocaine loaded?) hot-headed zelots in this forum. Is this a kind of get-together to console each other?

Obama supporter in Britain over here, also wondering about the source. Not that the story isn't credible, all too much so, but it would be useful to be able to trace it back to someone who had it first hand.

Okay I see, you guys are so busy with useless exchange of slime that you hold a non-native speaker of English account for not spelling correctly, talking about torture as an answer for a simple question...

Of course, I am neither a Republican supporter nor would I ever be near to them (to be clear, if anything I am an anarchist), but the foolish, senseless rage that can be seen here (while at the same time being ridiculously pesky with spelling) just looks like the most childish masturbation club.

So have fun guys! I prefer it a little less muddy.

You won't be the one to convince anyone, who isn't already convinced, ever.

Last night, Mr. NBFH and I had friends over for dinner. Friend N was late sitting down because he was on the phone with his cousin, JM. At dinner, N & J reported that JM was livid because of a conversation with a pollster re Obama and the PLO. (facts as reported in the post) I, NBFH, said: whoa, a push-poll, that's how Rove sank McCain; this is outrageous and a big deal. I asked if his cousin would mind if I put the story on my little blog. They said, no, she won't mind. So I put it on my little blog. ; )

And to those who didn't think that a source was necessary, what would be your problem with making sure that a story is true before spreading it around? Do you want to be just like the slimeballs behind these phone calls?

There's something a little funny about this. Push polls typically don't use live callers - it's too expensive to generate the volume of calls you need to make a dent using real people.

That's not to say there's not something insidious going on here - maybe it's a new tactic that targets likely "swing" voters or hopes to rely on word of mouth, or maybe it's oppo research for a larger smear attack in the pipeline.

If it weren't for the off-the-wall and weirdly specific PLO/Hamas questions, I'd even say it could be Obama's campaign, as campaigns'll often use this sort of polling just to determine how strong support actually is among an electorate.

Debbie Minden of Pittsburgh described receiving the call from "Research Strategies" late yesterday afternoon. "It sounded like a real poll," Minden, 56, asaid.

Then the caller asked, as she recalled: "Would it change your mind about Obama if you knew that his church was anti-Israel? Would it change you rmind if you knew that the leaders Hamas had endorsed Obama? Would it change your mind if you knew he had met with the leaders of Hamas?"

She also said one question asked whether it would change her mind if she learned he were a Muslim, though she didn't recall the precise wording."

Chris Wilson is the founder and chief executive of Wilson Research Strategies which, as pointed out in the Huffington Post and Politico, is actively push polling Jewish voters to garner support for McCain. Chris Wilson is also a Fox News political analyst. Chris Wilson, as founder and CEO of Wilson Research Strategies is allowing and perhaps backing his companies ongoing push polling efforts toward Jewish voters. This is an egregious affront that needs prompt attention. When members of the mainstream media are actively involved in manipulative, covert scare tactics on behalf of a conservative candidate we know that the McCain campaign and its supporters have moved towards Nixonian hubris and Orwellian thought control.

WHICH CANDIDATE CAN ISRAEL COUNT ON ...OBAMA = BETRAYALObama supporters are foolish to think that he will never betray them.Obama was a close friend of Pastor Wright for TWENTY YEARS.Obama threw Wright under the bus for personal ambition.McCain would not betray his country even after 5 years of torture.You can put lipstick on a traitor, but he's still a traitor.

Howard, you're delusional. McCain not only gave information to the enemy in exchange for medical treatment (read his book; I believe the exact phrase he used was "they broke me"), he also made a series of films for the North Vietnamese that are still sealed by the U.S. government.

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