ST. LOUIS, Mo. — The nation’s first “transgender” Baptist preacher spoke to a national Baptist gathering on April 8, explaining that the doctor who delivered him as a baby was wrong in declaring him a boy, and that it was an “angel of reason” that caused him to accept his inclinations to identify as a woman.

Daniel Robinson, who goes by the name Allyson Robinson, had been studying to be a pastor at Baylor University’s George W. Truett Theological Seminary in 2005 when he began to wrestle with his gender identity as never before. He had struggled with his desire to be a man since childhood.

“I have known my entire life that the world was wrong about me, that on the day I was born, when the doctor took a cursory glance between my legs and authoritatively declared ‘It’s a boy,’ he was wrong—dead wrong,” Robinson told the Alliance of Baptists in St. Louis this month.

He said that one day in his early seminary days he contemplated suicide, but an “angel of the Lord” that he called “reason” stopped him.

“What if God hasn’t fixed you because you’re not broken?” Robinson said he heard inside of himself.

“That can’t be true,” he thought. “The Bible says I’m broken.”

“What if the Bible is wrong?” the voice said. “What if you’ve been reading it wrong?”

Robinson told those gathered that in that moment he “sacrificed his certainty” and hoped that God would count it as “righteousness.”

In other appearances, Robinson has explained that he went into therapy but kept his gender identity issues as secret until graduating from Baylor due to the seminary’s policies about homosexuality and transgenderism. He also took a position as pastor of Meadow Oaks Baptist Church in Temple, Texas during his time at Baylor.

Robinson’s wife, Danyelle, expressed her support about his desire to identify as a woman.

In 2014, he worked as a transitional minister at Calvary Baptist Church in Washington, D.C., and was ordained there as a woman.

“Allyson Dylan Robinson is a minister of the gospel, trained for the task, and ordained to the gospel ministry by another community in which she has served as pastor,” former leader Amy Butler wrote at that time. “Over the course of her journey, God has invited her to step into the faithful witness of a new identity, a true identity, and a new name.”

Robinson now speaks as an itinerant preacher and appeared at Bruce “Caitlyn” Jenner’s renaming ceremony last year.

“Frankly I consider Job, Gautama Buddha, Joan of Arc, Rumi and Johnny Cash to be my spiritual predecessors far more than Augustine, Aquinas or Barth,” he told the Alliance of Baptists this month. “My hymnal has a lot less Isaac Watts and Fanny Crosby, but it’s full of Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Tupac and Beyonce.”

However, some have come to the opposite conclusion of Robinson, and state that it is not healthy to support and affirm a person’s desire to live as those of the opposite sex.

As previously reported, Walt Heyer, a 75-year-old man who obtained a sex change operation in the 1980’s to live as a woman for eight years before reverting back to his biological gender, now leads a ministry in which he shares his story with the world of how Christ redeemed his life and gave him hope.

“Nobody’s ever born a transgender,” he told the Daily Mail last January. “They’re manufactured as a result of something, a developmental childhood issue that has yet to be determined for many people.”

“All of them have some level of depression, and we’re not treating them,” Heyer lamented. “We’re just cutting off body parts and giving them a new name and a new gender.”

“God designed man; He designed women,” he also said in a video recorded last year. “God will redeem the lives of people who struggle with gender identity issues just like I did. He redeemed my life, and I’ve been free from it as a result of that.”

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Josey

He said that one day in his early seminary days he contemplated suicide, but an “angel of the Lord” that he called “reason” stopped him.
“What if God hasn’t fixed you because you’re not broken?” Robinson said he heard inside of himself.
“That can’t be true,” he thought. “The Bible says I’m broken.”
“What if the Bible is wrong?” the voice said. “What if you’ve been reading it wrong?”

The devil is so clever in his deceitfulness especially to someone who is not grounded and rooted in God’s word, he also can appear as an angel of light and this particular demon calls himself ‘reason’
The Bible isn’t wrong and neither was God when he sent you to the earth as a male. You have allowed this devil named ‘reason’ to ease your guilty conscience. Feeling guilty is not a bad thing if we don’t silence it, there is always a reason for guilt, it means you are going down the wrong road or about to, it is a flashing warning sign and if not adhered to you sear your conscience. You should have stuck to the written word of God and sought Him for the answers and the help you need instead of listening to this demon ‘reason’. we can always find ways to justify our sins in our minds, a murderer can convince himself that he’s killing for a good cause, etc. there are a lot of justifications we can come up with. That’s one reason Paul spoke about that he didn’t even judge himself but left it up to God who knows all things about us, the why we do the things we do and God knows how to save to the uttermost and deliver us.

Isaiah 1:19-20 vs19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land: vs20 But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.

John_33

Amen, and good catch. As soon as I saw the “voice of ‘reason’” question the Bible, I immediately thought of Satan saying, “yea, hath God said?” The first thing Satan will always try to do is get us to doubt God and His Word because the Word is our sword and faith is our shield. Being deceived is not an excuse. Satan deceived Eve, and she fell. So too will everyone else who is deceived as well. We must watch and be careful.

http://www.bing.com/ Martin Smit

We have seen the elevation of “reason” so called previously, in the French Revolution: “The Cult of Reason was explicitly anthropocentric. Its goal was the perfection of mankind through the attainment of Truth and Liberty, and its guiding principle to this goal was the exercise of the human faculty of Reason. In the manner of conventional religion, it encouraged acts of congregational worship and devotional displays to the ideal of Reason.” Besides being stupid, Reason likes killing people in bulk.

Clae Brewer

So a Trained doctor who delivered tons of babies mistook the business end of him, er her er him and an angel confirm her as a her and not a him, because he felt like a her. Question…so when did an angel replace the Holy Spirit? Is it not a wonder that mankind has chose to be confused and determine what ever feeds sin driven appetites. Here is a question does he/she have the plumbing to carry a baby?

calduncan

Somehow the word “reason” is the last thing I would connect with a man who believes he is a woman. Didn’t they use to put crackpots like this in padded cells till they were cured? We have plenty of immoral and crackpot clergy already, no need in making it worse by adding this psycho to the list.

Toro Keng

I was shocked when I started to read the news, cause i thought Christian News is supporting all these insanities…. phew ….. at least you added the story of Heyer.

Ye guys should do interviews of those ”churches” where produce ”christians”, to find out their ”sound doctrines”, and come out a list of them.
So that we can warn our brothers and sisters.

Just Wazz

I am sorry, but Transgender is straight from Hell , it is satan’s time to rule this world and the angel you say spoke to you was a fallen one .. A DEMON .. I will pray for you , I really will because your headed for the lake of fire in Hell for all eternity if you do not repent and amend your life. The devil make transgender , not God .. read the bible .

Josey

You are right on the mark but one thing I learned a few years back is never apologize for speaking the truth to someone, no need to be sorry for showing unconditional love which tells it like it is. I used to say I am sorry all the time as I went on to speak the truth only one day I realized I wasn’t sorry for speaking the truth, God bless you!

gizmo23

Do you ever say sorry if you are wrong?

Josey

The word of God is never wrong and Just Wazz got it right and has no need to say sorry for speaking the truth.

gizmo23

Interpretations can be wrong

barney

Interpreters can be the wrong due to their own presumptions.

Calvin375

When you give your life to Christ and lean not to your own carnal understanding, all truth will be revealed to you through the Holy Ghost, once you first believe and repent of your sins. Romans 10:9, Acts 2:38. But, in order to understand the Word of Truth, you must be “BORN AGAIN” John 3:1-21.

Terry Collmann

And transgenders are spoken of in the bible where exactly?

Calvin375

As one who mutilates their body. 1 Corinthians 6:19-20.

Leviticus 19:28 Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I [am] the LORD.

marg

oh good heavens. this person is nuts indeed. wow. just wrong on so many many levels. baptist my foot. no way. nope, all lies.

Leah Johnson

Do we realize just how wrong it is when a transgender woman or man claims to be a Christian and teaches from the bible in the name of Christ?

Changing your gender isn’t the same thing as changing your hair/eye color or body weight. No, this is changing WHAT GOD HAS CREATED YOU TO BE. We’re all born either male or female, by the sovereign choice of the Creator. When someone chooses to change that because of how he/she feels in his/her mind, that’s a willful choice of defying God. And if that weren’t enough to break your heart, claiming to be a Christian and believing that God approves of that choice is vile.

The transgender “Christian” says he believes God yet doesn’t believe that He was right in creating him to be a male and vise versa for women.

How can anyone even demand that we accept and tolerate that?

Jason Traweek

In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge: 2 Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction. 3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. 5 But you, keep your head in all situations, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, discharge all the duties of your ministry.

2 Timothy 4

gizmo23

Maybe God will condemm her to hell and you will be happy

Mary Taylor

No, I believe we will pray, he wakes up to the truth.

gizmo23

That doesn’t sound like most people here

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

Will prayers for u to repent of yr sins/evil-deeds/law-breaking work.?
……. Do u even believe in prayers.?

God has given everyone the freedom of choice but he/she will hv to bear the consequences, either good or evil, in this life n in the afterlife.
…….God does not abrogate yr choice to unrepentantly commit sin/evil-deed/law-breaking, irrespective of the prayers of others. Similarly for this transgender.
…….Can a father force his grown-up son to do good n not evil or a teacher force his/her student to study.?
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1JOHN.5: = Confidence and Compassion in Prayer

14 Now this is the confidence that we have in Him, that if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. 15 And if we know that He hears us, whatever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we have asked of Him.

16 If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that. 17 All unrighteousness is sin, and there is sin not leading to death.

gizmo23

It is not my place nor do I have the power to see into someone’s heart, only God does that

Amos Moses

Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Isa 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

Amos Moses

satan is a transgender…………

gizmo23

I thought he was a hippie, commie, black, feminist, Muslim, liberal, new ager, public school teacher, Democrat, or whatever is the current political scapegoat

Amos Moses

satan comes disguised as an angel of light (enlightenment) and will appear as the desire of the heart he is appearing in front of……….. So yes to all that……………and much more……

pretap

gizmo23, Romans 1:18-23

Terry Collmann

Paul was a nutjob with serious sexual hang-ups. And he hated women.

http://HisPlaceDanville.com Stephen Anderson

When a person publicly boasts of the sin, they have revealed their heart. Or are you prepared to defend rapists and murderers on the same “judge not” basis?

gizmo23

I can judge their actions not their heart

Terry Collmann

So you think a transgender person is on the same level as a rapist or a murderer? What a strange moral world you live in.

Kelly Samuelson

That’s not the point they were making. They were saying if you’re ready to defend one sin on the ‘judge not’ basis, are you ready to defend them all like that?

Terry Collmann

That’s not the point I’m making. Being transgender is NOT a moral transgression: it might break the made-up rules of a bunch of bronze-age sheep herders, which for some reason you all feel are still applicable today, but for anyone untrammelled by a devotion to 2,000-year-old fiction it is clea that someone’s feeling that they were born the wrong gender has nothing to do with morality. Rape and murder clearly ARE moral transgressions, under whatever moral code you subscribe to.

Kelly Samuelson

You can claim you’re transgender if you want and, most likely, no amount of preaching will change your mind. However, if you choose to claim transgenderism, you can’t claim to be a follower of God. You can’t claim to be a true Christian and then spit in Gods face and the design he made for us. If Daniel wants to claim he is a Christian, he should feel convicted by this choice he made, not empowered. This is all prophecy in the Bible though, there will be many false teachers that will rise up, which is why we have to be so discerning as Christians. He claims an ‘Angel of reason’ came to him? Demons are angels too, they are just fallen, and they will tell you exactly what you want to hear and satisfy all your desires of the flesh and this world. Demons are great at deceiving. Being a follower of God is hard. We aren’t called to be like the rest of the world, which is why we get so much ridicule from people like you, but if God is for me, it doesn’t matter who’s against me.

http://HisPlaceDanville.com Stephen Anderson

Yes, a “transgender” person is a rebel against God, refusing to accept the body God gave them and defiling the image of God. Though it may not be an assault on another human individual, it is an assault on the person of God and society.
“The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. (Deu 22:5 KJV)
If transvestism is an abomination to God, how much more the self-mutilation of the transgender.

JJJ4J

If you had been subjected to the attentions of a transvestite paedophile you would not be asking such a ridiculous question.

Terry Collmann

I am very sorry to hear of the terrible things that happened to you when you were young. Your reaction is understandable. But not all transvestites are paedophiles.

MARK.7: =
20 And He said, “What comes out of a man, that defiles a man. 21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, 22 thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness. 23 All these evil things come from within and defile a man.”

gizmo23

You can judge actions but not the persons heart.

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

“There is no smoke without fire.”

MATT.7:20-23 says that if u r engaged in homosexual or transgender acts, others will know where yr heart lies, ie very far from God.(ROM.1:18-32) If u r engaged in law-breaking acts, eg lying/cheating/slandering, stealing, adultery/fornication/rape, etc, others will know where yr heart lies, ie very close to Satan.(1JOHN.3:8)

So, judging the person’s actions will be the judging of the person’s heart. Like a mirror, yr actions n speech/words will reflect yr heart.

JJJ4J

Really, where is that in scripture? Never forget Jesus let the rich young ruler walk away.

gizmo23

Man judges the actions, God judges the heart

JJJ4J

So despite the fact that Jesus told us to heal the sick, despite the fact that He could see into a person’s heart, despite the fact that He said we would do even greater things than He has done because He goes to the Father, despite the fact this is all in the Bible – YOU disagree with the word of God? Wow! (Matthew 10:8, Luke 9:2; John 2:25, 1 Kings 8:39; John 14:12.)

gizmo23

I just interpret it differently

JJJ4J

Lonely out there on a limb is it?

Annie Love

Ha, ha! I just adore you, jjj4j

JJJ4J

Well thank you Annie, you are obviously no friend of a poster on Charisma called ‘Tanzi’ with whom I have had a run in. Gosh there are some nasty people around. Have we been in touch personally at all at any time?

Annie Love

I tried to “friend” you on FB one time. I think it’s the Prophecy Watchers site that we both frequent that caused me to recognize your picture from here. I’m Canadian.

JJJ4J

Ah I understand, I have adopted the Facebook philosophy of only friending people I know personally or whose ministry I admire deeply as per Prophecy Watchers, I trust you did not take my rejection seriously?

Annie Love

Not at all. <3

tanzi

Lol. I don’t recall you running into me Julia. Be blessed!

JJJ4J

But Jesus said that we would do even greater things than He has done and He could see into a person’s heart and we have His Holy Spirit given to us in order that we are able to at least do what He did through the gifts we have been given. For if you have been baptised in the Holy Spirit and seek to be filled each day you do indeed have the power to see into someone’s heart if God so wills. Never forget Jesus told us to heal people, not Him but us in the same way He did for He was fully human whilst on this earth in order that we could emulate Him, the only difference being He was without sin.

1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You, 2 as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should[a] give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. 3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. 4 I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do. 5 And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.

Jesus Prays for His Disciples

6 “I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. 7 Now they have known that all things which You have given Me are from You. 8 For I have given to them the words which You have given Me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came forth from You; and they have believed that You sent Me. 9 “I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours. 10 And all Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine, and I am glorified in them.

11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me,[b] that they may be one as We are. 12 While I was with them in the world,[c] I kept them in Your name. Those whom You gave Me I have kept;[d] and none of them is lost except the son of perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled.

13 But now I come to You, and these things I speak in the world, that they may have My joy fulfilled in themselves. 14 I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 15 I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one. 16 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth. 18 As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth.

Jesus Prays for All Believers

20 “I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will[e] believe in Me through their word; 21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. 22 And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: 23 I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.

24 “Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the foundation of the world. 25 O righteous Father! The world has not known You, but I have known You; and these have known that You sent Me. 26 And I have declared to them Your name, and will declare it, that the love with which You loved Me may be in them, and I in them.”

J Roger Smith

Matthew 5: “43“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.”–Jesus

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

Like the Pharisees who rejected Jesus as their Christ/Messiah/Savior, u hv to love yr enemies, pluck out yr eyes n chop off yr limbs, turn the other cheek, walk the extra mile, lend to all who ask n other irrational deeds if u wanna be saved from hell = to be saved solely thru yr own works/efforts, n not thru faith in Jesus Christ.(JOHN.3:16, GAL.2:16)

Since Christians r being saved from hell thru their faith in JC, they do not need to do all those “stupid” things.
…….MATT.5:17 says that JC did not come down to earth from heaven to destroy or change the Law, eg “U shall not murder” n “U shall not steal”(EXO.20:13 & 15) r still in force in nearly all countries of the world/earth.

If u r like a stubborn Pharisee, u need to do all those “stupid” things, in order to be saved from hell when u die or leave this earth/world.

Oboehner

And you troll here why?

pretap

gizmo23, might I ask which would be more preferable to you? The Godly unadulterated Truth which could save your soul from hell, by the ONLY God who EVER loved you, or a “continuous, destructive, horrendous lie” which you don’t seem to have a problem with (and could ultimately destroy your very being “forever”)???

Terry Collmann

And Santa won’t bring you any presents, either.

JJJ4J

And of course, based on the words you have read here you have decided what most people here are like have you? Wow you are either God or you are speaking out of a portion of your anatomy where the sun doesn’t shine.

Rebecca Stevens

Thank you Leah, it is a blessing to actually read your words and that you are speaking truth when so many are afraid of offending!

Daniel Hudson

IT is technically still a HE, IT will never be rid of the male chromosome. All IT has done, is make an abomination, in the eyes of the Almighty.

Those who say it’s not for us to Judge… Remember this, firstly, Homosexuality and everything affiliated with it, is addressed as an abomination in the Old and New Testaments. And in Matthew, the Messiah says to confront the person that has sinned in private, if they listen that you have won them over… If not take with you one or two witnesses so that there is two or three witnesses, and if they still do not listen… Take with you the church, if they still do not listen, treat them as you would a PAGAN or TAX COLLECTOR…

Whom were very judged back in the day. So the fact is, IT is an Abomination in the eyes of the Almighty, so says the bible. IT is to be treated as a PAGAN or TAX COLLECTOR… Because I can guarantee you that people came to IT in private and with witnesses to try and convince IT to not go through with this satanic act. IT will receive no respect from me.

The New Testament actually does address the topic in several places: read Romans 1:20-32; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; 1 Timothy 1:9-10 and Jude 1:7.

Tommy Ferrell

You are mistaken. Romans 1 comes to mind and several other clear references categorizing it as sin plus Jesus quoted the first book of the Bible which is Genesis saying,” God made them male and female and for this cause a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife and the two will become one flesh. Therefore, What God has joined together let no one seperate.” That is in the New Testament as well.

joe smith

Wrong pal but you probably already know that.

Meredith Lyell

yes it does. Read Romans 1. Clear cut

JJJ4J

It doesn’t say anything about going to the toilet and evacuating your bowels, it doesn’t say anything about cleaning your teeth, it doesn’t say anything about getting washed and dressed and yet you do all these things! Wow! Then you have breakfast, then you, get in or on some mode of transport to go to work, school, college, now where is all that in the bible? And yet if you had read the bible from cover to cover for the last 40 years and studied it, you would see it actually does address homosexuality very clearly a lot more clearly than any of the suggestions I mentioned.

http://www.facebook.com/david.cousins.14 David Cousins

actually it does.

http://www.dontneednostinkinwebsite.com/ Midlandr

It does.

Leonard

I’m going to say this without argument! This subject should be left to those who are active in this confused life (Body) we say what we think God has or is saying on this subject. But I ask this question. When DNA test are done, along with other X/Y counts. Which show male female, what do we say then. Science does have its place in the Christian community. Perhaps this is best left to God! Or we will be found judging, without actual proof (Facts). Who is more important? Pleasing God, or pleasing our lack of understanding.

Brittany Frederick

but what more proof do you need then that of Gods word the one and universal translation

Jan

Glad you brought up the DNA, because the truth is that you can take all hormones and get all the operations you want and your DNA will indicate the truth of what gender you really are.

Terry Collmann

So what about people who are born XXY? What are they?

Calvin375

The key word is “BORN”, in which, those who are transgender are NOT born that way. That which is BORN is created by GOD. There’s NO confusion in that fact.

Terry Collmann

Do you actually know any transgender people? I do, including one I have known since she was a small boy. Let me assure you, they certainly WERE born that way

Calvin375

You can NOT assure me of anything not unless you were with the Creator when GOD made HIM? The only thing I can be assured of from you is more lies.

Terry Collmann

Why are you accusing me of being a liar? Because I made a statement you can’t accept? Even if we accept God’s existence, I cannot see why you should be so arrogant as to declare you know exactly what is in his mind.

Calvin375

Because I know Him for myself and He never lies unlike yourself. I accepted GOD a ling time ago and if there’s anything I am assured of is knowing His Word. Therefore, you are a liar because you do not know Him nor accept His Word.

Terry Collmann

You’re a fantasist, like everybody who claims to have an invisible friend no one else can see or hear.

Calvin375

And you’re lost. Have a nice day.

http://www.dontneednostinkinwebsite.com/ Midlandr

Yes, he is a lost soul, blind and deaf to Truth.

Pamela

Science hasn’t proven that someone can be born that way, your friend is not a female he is a male nothing can change that, you are believing in a delusion God made male and female not transgendered people they make themselves.

Terry Collmann

Pamela, you really need to meet and speak to transgender people instead of making comments on a subject you clearly know nothing about. A transgender person I have known since they were a small child was clear from the start that though she was born a boy, she was in reality a girl. She did not “make” herself a girl, she knew with conviction that a girl was what she had been born, even if it was in a boy’s body. Fortunately she had extremely understanding parents, and is on the way to transitioning into the physical gender that will match the mental gender she always had.

Herb Planter

lol thats differnt that being a hermaph. how do you know he didnt make himself a girl not like the parents were much help if they didnt set him straight. kids do dumb stuff thats what parents are for. not to be some extremely understanding bleeding hearts. srry if thats rude or brutal but i tend to be coarse. most trannies do it for fun etc. this kid is rarer kind of tranny if he’s been doin this since whenever. we all have our problems thu this kid’s fight will be fighting off his urges or w/e just as some ppl have to learn to see while born blind. i know this is a late response but let me know what ya think.

Herb Planter

well of course they were but still they know who they are. i have to believe that deep down inside that know who and what sex they are. and like i said b4 they’re usually born more 1 part than the other. if nothing else u’d just have to pick 1 side and go with it and move on as they have all thru time. god loves hermaphadites too srry for the bad spellin etc.

Francisco Villa

That´s a genetic disease, and Jesús can cure it also, just as alcoholism and other adictions, esquizofrenia, depression, homosexuality and other sexual perversions…

Terry Collmann

Don’t talk nonsense. Of course “Jesus” can’t “cure” genetic problems.

JJJ4J

Really? You are obviously not mixing with the right circles.

Terry Collmann

I don’t mix with the credulous and gullible very much, this is true

JJJ4J

Thank you, precious, for your wonderful description of me for you have proved to me how much my most precious Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ of Nazareth has changed me in that He calls us all not only to be as wary as serpents and, rest assured I am as you do not see my true name posted here but He also calls us to be as innocent as doves and as far as He is concerned and what He has to say to me in His Word, and personally, (don’t forget He says He sheep know His voice) I am completely credulous and gullible. I not only wish to be as childlike as possible, I deeply desire it too, and enjoy everything that He has given me to enjoy and eschew all that He tells me is not good for me and, after all, He should know what is best for me He was the one Who made me. If you could know even a tenth of the joy He floods into my heart each day such that regardless of how bad the day may be His joy is still there within me, you would yearn to turn to Him, to know Him and to become like Him, there is nobody else anywhere who is as charismatic and attractive as He is and the more I know Him the more I am drawn to Him. I am so sorry you do not know Him like this, there is no other way on earth to live but in the centre of His heart and will.

Terry Collmann

I sincerely hope nothing ever happens to burst the bubble of your delusion

http://www.dontneednostinkinwebsite.com/ Midlandr

He can.

JJJ4J

They are 0.0001% of the population, I am sure that amidst all their pain and angst they are thrilled to have you as their champion.

Herb Planter

u can tell on hermaphidites when they’re born which side is more predominite usually /shrug

Pamela

XXY is Klein Felters Syndrome men who have it are not female, science has proven that only men can be born with it and most men who are born with it, have no gender identity issues, the syndrome causes men to have delayed puberty, and a shortage of testosterone, these individuals cannot father children because they have infertility problems. People with Klein Felters are men and nothing more, it is considered an intersex condition,

http://www.dontneednostinkinwebsite.com/ Midlandr

They are genetic defects, the product of sin’s decay as we fell. They too are NOT normal.

Terry Collmann

“They are genetic defects, the product of sin’s decay as we fell.”
You’re making this nonsense up out of thin air. I’m staggered by your self-delusion

http://www.dontneednostinkinwebsite.com/ Midlandr

I’m staggered by you ignorance and foolishness.

Terry Collmann

The fool is the person who believes “sin” affects genes

http://www.dontneednostinkinwebsite.com/ Midlandr

You obviously are ignorant of the corruption of the flesh that sin causes, as well as corruption of the mind. You believe in nothing bigger than yourself I would gather.

Herb Planter

called law of enthropy

Herb Planter

yup all in the blood

Jan

According to the Genetic Science Learning Center at the University of Utah, because they have the Y chromosome, they are considered to be males and most of them develop as males, some of them without knowing that they have the extra X chromosome.

pretap

Mr. Leonard, why the Word is being twisted and perverted, those of us not in any of these ‘communities’, have a Christian right to present it (the Word) as the Bible has “called” us to do, and the two posters above did an excellent job.

Leonard

Like I stated. I’m not here to argue!!! The Christian faith has its own fight common sense verses cognitive dissonance. When we research who put the book in its present form of obedience, social control. You will discover it was Rome not God that created this kind of division in the church.

Julia

How could Rome have put the Bible in its present form, when the Bible in it’s authoritative form does prove that Roman Catholicism is infidelity to the Gospel of Christ?

Kelly Samuelson

I’m sorry, but if you put any kind of statement up here, you’re opening yourself up for argument. Just saying….

Jen

Amen Leah!! I agree with you!

equality4all

Claiming that you know what God does and does not approve of is blasphemy and sacrilegious. Do not project your hate onto your God.

pslinger

Claiming? It is right there in His word, you either believe it and accept it or you don’t, it’s not up for debate. But if you reject God’s truth, you reject Him, and you have no part in His eternal kingdom. Truth does not equal hate, except for those who hate the truth, as you apparently do.

equality4all

Your argument is flawed in that the same document tells you to love your neighbor and that “His eternal kingdom” is for all sinners, including those that wear clothes of different fabrics and eat pork.

pslinger

I’m not arguing — you are. I am presenting the truth as given in Scripture. You are condemning said truth, even though your knowledge of Scripture is obviously very limited. To condemn something you know little about is willful ignorance, indicative of a closed mind and a darkened heart. Ironically, the very type of person Jesus died to save. Your beef is not with me or any Christian, it is with Him, God Himself. And I know from experience, you don’t win arguments with Him. 😉 May He open your mind and heart to His truth and His love.

equality4all

Wow, your kind statements remind me of the willful ignorance of sheep who follow the the closest herding pole. By all means embrace your institutional religion, but at least find ways of communicating that don’t plagiarize your pastor. Your bible does not condemn thoughtfulness… Or does it?

Bob Maddry

The only lack of thoughtfulness I see here is yours buddy. 100% typical liberal. Shut down and destroy anyone who doesn’t think like you, and cram your views right down his throat. Here’s a news flash for you pal. In fact, for the “No one but God judges me” crowd I have news. He already has. There is a remedy. It’s in His book. If you want to know it, fine … go find it. If you don’t, don’t argue and blame Pslinger … own it. Also … God doesn’t ‘negotiate’. He’s not a Dem or Republican … he is sovereign God who rules by His rules. Period. I pray you will figure this all out before you stand before Him as then, there will be nothing to say.

equality4all

Thank you for praying for me!

JJJ4J

Tell me have you read your bible systematically from cover to cover for the last 40 years looking to Holy Spirit to lead you into all truth having never had any Christian input until in your 30s? If you had you would KNOW what God does and does not approve of and it has nothing to do with blasphemy and sacrilege and everything to do with SIN. I do not hate people who have sexual problems and perversions but I hate the one who has led them down that path, I hate him with a passion.

equality4all

And what does your bible say about hate? Maybe you’ll want to reread 1 John 4:20.

JJJ4J

Please do not preach to me about what the bible says about ‘hate’. Hate? I am to hate sin and the one who tempts and entices people to sin. God created hell just for the devil and I am with God on this one. Had you read your quoted scripture and its surrounding verses you would have read it in context and it says absolutely nothing about loving the devil or sin.

equality4all

OK

Israel Gordillo

You are obviously not a beiver, so why are you trying to tell Christians what they should believe? You don’t believe in the Bible so why try to argue from the Bible?
It’s like a Muslim who believes in Sharia law coming to America and telling us that our Constitution is wrong.
That kind of person should just go back where he came from. As you should.

equality4all

That’s the Christian spirit!

tanzi

Julia dear, you do have so much hate in your heart. I’m afraid I don’t see Jesus in you as of late..so much hate.

http://www.dontneednostinkinwebsite.com/ Midlandr

God tell us what He hates. God communicates His will through Scripture and the Holy Spirit. She is more on truth, than you are.

equality4all

A god that hates is not a god.

http://www.dontneednostinkinwebsite.com/ Midlandr

Only in you feeble and deceived mind. Is your god the plasma screen? The NFL? Killary and Red Bern????

equality4all

I hope you have the luxury of never interacting with anyone different from yourself, so as to protect them from your hate speech.

Terry Collmann

What an unpleasant, judgmental attitude you take to other people trying to find happiness in the world. You need to look inside yourself and ask: “Why do transgender people frighten me so much?” And if you believe God created this person to be what they are, then cleary God created them transgender.

Billie Hill Lewis

No, sin has created them as trans. God creates each of us as a male or female. To decide to be something else is a sin. Nothing judgmental about sin.

joe smith

Give it a rest.

Meredith Lyell

Transgender people do not frighten me at all. I feel very sorry for them. They chose to disobey the word of God and live life as they want not as God wants for them. God is a holy God and he cannot tolerate sin. Regardless of what you say, it is still a sin and one which will require accountability when the day of judgment comes.

JJJ4J

As Christians we are not called to ‘find happiness’ we are called to be holy, obedient and sold out for Jesus. The fact that His joy can fill you up regardless of your outward circumstances is an enormous benefit but it does come about as you seek to draw ever closer to Him and as you seek to obey Him more and more. Oh and BTW why do I have a problem No. 1 it is a sin and No. 2 I had up close and personal attentions from paedophiles as a child and one of them liked to wear my mother’s clothes before he kiddy-fiddled me, OK? God created men and women to be men and women, He did not give them the option later of deciding whether they wanted to reject His choice, that is man’s decision and has absolutely nothing to do with God and an awful lot to do with sin and selfishness.

JJJ4J

There actually is not one word of judgment in the lady’s statement but I have noticed that those who fling around the word judgmental as though it were confetti are those who are incredibly fearful of ever being judged. What the lady was saying were facts, judgment actually comes from God and it has everything to do with passing sentence.

Terry Collmann

“There actually is not one word of judgment in the lady’s statement” – it’s filled with judgment. She called Allyson “vile”. That’s not just judgmental, it’s hate-filled.

Bob Maddry

OK, 1st, this statement was all I needed: “What if the Bible is wrong?” the voice said. “What if you’ve been reading it wrong?” Nuff said. I don’t listen to ‘voices of reason’. I don’t listen to you, Terry. I don’t listen to anyone other than His word. There are days when I don’t feel I am worthy of being called His child. Those days, I go to His Word (Bible) and read where He promised that if I repented and called on Him, I am His child period. Doesn’t matter how I ‘feel’. I’m so glad ‘feelings’ don’t dictate God’s world. That’s as a Christian. 2nd, as an American, this is utter foolishness. I hope Target goes bankrupt. When you pander to .3% of the population, and in doing so, inconvenience 97%, it makes me question where we are living. “Self identify” denotes a choice.

BravesFan

Satan can appear as an “angel of light,” so….

Slidellman4life

This person is mentally and emotionally disturbed. Nothing more to be said.

Ronald Carter

How wonderful she was given reassurance by God to bravely be who she truly is!

George

satan does come masquerading as an angel of light. no wonder his servants are also agents of satan. even transgender ones…

Steve Buckley

How sad.
They are however right. Paul did say that if an angel from heaven were to preach any other gospel….. Galatians 1.
We further read that Satan’s messengers come as ministers of righteousness. …. 2 corinthians.
We then read in Paul’s letter to Timothy that people will come having itching ears.
And while the bible does indeed say we’re broken, it shows Jesus, and the cross as the only viable solution, simply because our spirit has been murdered to due to our sin. Clearly this individual either missed, or rejected the gospel of Jesus, and instead chose the “gospel” of self.
Which is rather ironic, because Jesus said we’re to deny ourselves if we WANT to follow him.

WorldGoneCrazy

He/she is an LGBT activist who worked for the Human “Rights” Commission. Enough said.

John Lawless

I am an ordained minister that holds a B.Sc. in Religious studies with a minor in Psychology, a Masters in Divinity trained in both Greek and Hebrew, a Masters in non-Profit Management and I am finishing up my doctorate in theology. I can find no biblical, reasonable, or acceptable foundation for this person’s position. That is it put succinctly.

Hellbeheresoon

One word…madness.

http://www.jonesfamily.us/ Ron Jones

Amidst all else that is so wrong about this behaviour… Once he decided he was a “she,” “She” became ineligible to pastor a church.

1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

3:3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;

3:4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;

3:5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

3:6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

3:7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

gizmo23

Many here seem to be ready to jump for joy if this person is condemmed to Hell. I don’t see any compassion here

Amos Moses

Deception in the church………..not a whole lot to be “compassionate” about.

Curtis Hankins

Crazy never takes a holiday . . . . .

HazumuOsaragi

Crazy never takes a holiday . . . . .

Irony much?

Slidellman4life

Point?

HazumuOsaragi

Point?

It’s the all-irony-all-the-time channel…

Slidellman4life

So what is your point?

storie

The voice that said…’what if the Bibles wrong’ , is the same voice that said to Eve….” Did God really say…?”.
The Bible is the authoritative Word of God and if someone doesn’t want to obey it because they don’t like it then they are prime candidates for seducing spirits and doctrines of devils.

Mary Taylor

He’s saying God made a mistake. Is he going to tell that to God on judgment day, “Hey, God, you made a big mistake.”

Nidalap

So the message is “What if the Bible is wrong”? Well, there are some churches that WILL go for that…

Itsjustalila rinpoche

The transgender folks I know have more wisdom and love in their hearts than the majority of self identified “christians” I’ve met who are confused about Christ’s teaching of love.

Jay Stang

Nope. Nope. Nope. Do not trust your feelings. Trust in the Word of God.

Amos Moses

So what is a “not self identified christian”……and how does the “self identified christian” differ from the “not”? And BTW,,,,, how would you know……..1.)If they are “self identified” or “not”…. and 2.) Are you even a christian so that you would have ANY frame of reference to even know if one was….much less if they were either of the above?

And what EXACTLY makes them “more loving”?

maxine

Just want to say I really enjoy your posts – even the ones I don’t quite follow. They usually put a smile on my face. Blessings to you.

Amos Moses

😉

truelinguist

Who are you to judge? Someone who is deluded about his own sex is no expert on religion.

Jay Stang

WTF

Reason2012

Adults continue to permanently turn away from homosexuality, even after decades of believing the lie they were “born that way”, proving it’s not genetic, but the product of indoctrination, confusion, mental instability and/or abuse.

Homosexual and transgender behavior is most literally pointed out as a sin, and God has not changed on that regard. But if a person has those inclinations but does not act upon them, does not dwell in lust upon others, but is instead struggling against them to avoid them, then it’s not a sin. It’s just like sinful inclinations of any kind: it’s acting upon it when it becomes a sin.

And this is what God says about sin and specifically the behavior of homosexuality:

Romans 1:26-27 ”For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: (27) And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their_lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.”

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ”Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate [men who willingly take on the part of a “woman” with another man], nor abusers of themselves with mankind [s odomites], (10) Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”

1 Timothy 1:9-10 ”Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, (10) For_whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind [s odomites], for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;”

Jude 1:7 ”Even as_Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.”

Luke 17:29 ”[Jesus said] But the same day that Lot went out of_Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.”

Matthew 19:4-6 ”And he [Jesus] answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, (5) And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? (6) Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.”

Jesus made it quite clear God made us male and female so that a man will leave his father and mother (not two fathers, not three mothers and so on) and cleave onto his wife (not his husband and so on).

The Word of God rebukes us all – even if we all try to say we don’t believe the Bible, the very Word of God will be our judge when we face Him. And God is a righteous judge and will judge us all – not turn a blind eye to our sin. Do not be deceived by the world: it’s God we will have to convince that His word was a lie, not men. What happened in Noah’s day when the entire world rejected God? Did God spare them because there were so many? No – they all perished except for Noah and his family!

Proverbs 9:10 ”The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.”

God spared not His chosen people – we are kidding ourselves if we think He will spare the United States of America if we choose to blatantly turn away from Him.

Jeremiah 12:17 ”But if they will not obey, I will utterly pluck up and destroy that nation, saith the LORD.”

Luke 17:28-30 “So also as it was in the days of Lot: they ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; (29) but the day Lot went out of Sodom, it rained fire and brimstone from the heaven and destroyed them all. (30) Even so it shall be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.”

Romans 1:18-32 “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold [suppress] the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, m urder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.”

The entire Bible points out men having_sex with men is an abomination. Likewise woman having_sex with women. It’s not just Paul that pointed it out.

Genesis 19:4-13 “But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of S odom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them [men wanting to have_sex with men].

And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing [he offers his daughters to be_raped to keep them from having_sex with another man – shows_rape is not the issue but male on male_sex]; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door. But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door. And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.

And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place: For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it.”

These two messengers were sent to destroy that place before the event where they tried to_rape these messengers.

Leviticus 18:22 “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.”

Leviticus 20:13 “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination …”

Even cross-dressing is an abomination:

Deuteronomy 22:5 “The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.”

Deuteronomy 23:17 “There shall be no_whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a s odomite of the sons of Israel.”

1 Kings 22:46 “And the remnant of the s odomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land.”

1 Kings 15:11-12 “And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father. And he took away the s odomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.”

2 Kings 23:7 “And he brake down the houses of the s odomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove.”

Ezekiel 16:49-50 “Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister S odom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.”

And the “pride” parades about homosexuality are more of the same.

Matthew 19:4-5 “And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?”

Not father and father. Not mother and mother. Not his husband.

And only two people of opposite gender can become “one flesh”.

Live forever, people – not temporarily only to be cast out for living for the things of this world.

May God/Jesus Christ be glorified!

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

Anti-sodomy laws began to be abolished by the vote-pandering n power-crazy liberal Blue States in the 1970s. If anti-sodomy laws were still around, he/she wouldn’t be so proud n open about his/her abominable sin/evil-deed/law-breaking.

gizmo23

So you don’t believe in oral sex within a marriage?

Michael C

Um, what does “sodomy” have to do with being transgender?

And really? You support laws criminalizing “sodomy”?

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

Doesn’t a transgender like her/him also practice sodomy or would hv been sodomized by a gay bf, even though she/he may hv an artificial vagina.?

Most Christians do not engage in sodomy or anal sex = they support anti-sodomy laws.

Michael C

Well, I don’t know anything about this person. You seem to be making a whole lot of assumptions. Has this person ever even had sex?

Transgender women aren’t just gay men in dresses. Sexual orientation and gender identity are separate things.

Some transgender people are straight and some are gay. Did you read the article? Allyson Robinson is married to a woman.

I don’t know what country in Africa you live in, but in the United States, most Christians don’t actually support anti-“sodomy” laws.

Slidellman4life

We know Daniel (that is his name) is certifiably nuts. What more do you need to know?

Ronald Carter

And how do we know that? Or are you tarring every single transgendered person as “nuts”? Isn’t that just a little unfair?

Slidellman4life

Yes. Transgendered people are mentally ill .

Ronald Carter

Citation please. From a recognized medical institution if you don’t mind, I’m not interested in reading a church tract.

Slidellman4life

God doesn’t make mistakes. Your gender is defined by your genitalia. Period. End of discussion.

Ronald Carter

You don’t get to end the discussion merely because you elect to ignore established science.

Jan

He isn’t ignoring established science in this instance. You and others who agree with you are. The science is clear. No matter how many hormones you take or how many operations you get, your DNA will betray the fact of what your true gender is.

Ronald Carter

And why do you think the answer is in DNA? It isn’t. There is an enormous mental component you are choosing to ignore.

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

Yes, the God-given mental component about the cause of LGBTQism is this …….

ROMANS.1: =

26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise
also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their
lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and
receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

Jan

But that is not science. DNA IS science, and I thought all of you lefties were all about science!

Ronald Carter

The mental component is also science. You’re looking at the wrong part of this.

Also, I am not a “lefty” merely because I am not an extreme “righty”.

Slidellman4life

God will always have the last word, whether you like it or not.

Ronald Carter

And you won’t. Drives you crazy doesn’t it?

Slidellman4life

Nope. I’ve nothing to worry about. I read the back of the book and guess what? We win.

People like you flirt with eternal damnation like it’s a joke. When death comes for you, as it will for everyone, you’ll find it is not a laughing matter.

Ronald Carter

Well, it isn’t a book you appear to understand all that well…if you did, you wouldn’t be sitting in your self-righteous place of judgement pretending to be God when you are not God. Worry about your own eternal damnation, it isn’t your place to talk about others.

Slidellman4life

Having actually read the book more than once and understanding what it does and doesn’t say, you have no idea what you are talking about. You should read it too and until then shut your mouth.

Ronald Carter

Disrespectful and unchristian. Flagged.

Slidellman4life

You need a tissue? Sorry, Charlie, but respect is earned, not assumed.

Ronald Carter

It’s also a two-way street, not earned with obnoxiousness and immaturity.

Slidellman4life

Sure I can. Science always changes. God never does.

This discussion is over.

Ronald Carter

And you can’t control that, either. Science changes because it improves. God might not change but religion certainly does, including yours.

Dio Jones

The apostasy is spreading…. and spreading… and spreading….

Always be a light that is .shininginthedark.

Daniel Hudson

What would you know about Angels, you are an abomination, you have desecrated the temple that the Almighty has given you… You should have your ministry license revoked, and be shunned from your community.

For the community that allowed this abomination to teach you the scriptures… The Almighty will have this against you on the day of judgment. Repent, and remove this abomination from your ministry positions.

blacksnake35

If you believe God put a female soul into a male body, wouldn’t you also believe that he did that for a reason?

Amos Moses

So if you were one sex……..how would you know if you were supposed to be the other sex…….. as you would not know how it feels to be the other sex……….there is no frame of reference to know if you were supposed to be one or the other, other than what you are.

Jacob

I was born with a NATURAL desire for lusting after women (I am a man by the way). Should I be allowed by God to sleep with any woman I want and not just my wife simply because this is a natural feeling? No, that is ridiculous. If sin went against nature, it would be alot easier to avoid. You don’t get to pick and choose what is a sin or not just because it’s hard to live a Godly life.

Ian4j

No you were not born with a natural lust for that is sin. man was born to be able to have sexual relationships with his wife. Anything else is a perversion from that. Man is born with the spark within to be able to long after a relationship with Jesus Christ, God. Man is also born with the ability to sin. For some the culture and upbringing can lead toward God or toward sin.

Rudy Rios

“For in the day thou eatest thereof, thou shalt not surely die.” -Satan

Grace Kim Kwon

The “Angel of Reason” is actually a demon. Daneil Robinson should have stayed identifying himself as a male according to the birth gender which God gave him. Transgenderism is a rebellion against the Creator God. It’s nothing of Christianity.

Terry Collmann

But if god makes everything, the “creator god” must have been the person who created her transgender.

Calvin375

As you’ve said, there’s nothing in the Bible about transgenderism. So He( GOD) did NOT create any transgender.

Calvin375

GOD will never do or say anything that’s contrary to His Word. Why are you trying to find fault with Him? Is it because you find fault within yourself and you blame GOD or is it that you do not love the truth?

moses

There are many things you don’t understand in this world. There are dark spirits hell bent in destroying humans. They hide behind the scene to promote their evil nature through human minds. They are intelligent demonic beings. They are masters in switching things. We wrestle against principalities and powers and against the rulers of the darkness of this age and against spiritual host of wickedness. Don’t give in to them. Only the loving truth of God’s Word can defeat their lies.

Grace Kim Kwon

No. Transgender is sin. God never creates sin. People corrupt themselves and cause sins. You secular Westerners are being too bored on Earth this century. Stop being bored and stop bullying the Christans and pushing depravity upon mankind. You guys need Biblical Christianity for honesty, seriousness, and proper morality.

Steve Bakker

Sounds like the reasoning satan gave to Eve: ‘Did God Really Say?’ The Bible is not wrong and we need to look past the voices in our heads and recognize that every thought is not always sponsored by Jesus Christ. We all struggle with our flesh, no one on the planet has been deprived of that curse, otherwise Jesus would not have had to die in our place.
Please pray for our brother, the Bible is not wrong, God has not given us that option. He is perfect and when our will is submitted to His, He gives us the grace to proceed. Not without struggle, the Apostle Paul did not even get that privilege. Easy is Hell’s Highway but Heaven is reserved for those who acknowledge their struggle, their failure before God and accept his mercy and grace, despite our efforts. Seek the strength of the Holy Spirit in your weakness, and he will make you strong. Stand in Jesus Name.

ConCern

“explaining that the doctor who delivered him as a baby was wrong in declaring him a boy, and that it was an “angel of reason” that caused him to accept his inclinations to identify as a woman.” But could that “angel of reason” be satan and he didn’t even knew it ? just like Eve, she was deceived, because the devil played to her emotions and she felt good..
May God have mercy on us all…

David

These things are antichrists.. The truth is dangling between their legs or not depending upon weather or not it had been lopped off. Mentally deranged individuals cannot discern as to what they are & most if not all even dent the truth of their 23rd set of chromosomes which a simple blood test tells all and puts to bed once and for all which toilet facilities these monsters are to use.
May their eyes and minds opened and healed so they might see and know Gods truths! In Jesus Name! Amen Amen!

John N

So strange that religious fundamentalists fall back on the 23th pair of chromosomes to define sex – a scientific finding nowhere to be found in the bible – yet deny the same science when it comes to defining gender identity – a combination of chromosomes – not only the sex chromosomes -, pre- and postnatal hormonal levels and brain development.

So make up your mind – is it your bible or is it science that defines gender identity?

hytre64

We can go back to being simple enough that you can understand. If you were born with “a twig and berries” between your legs, you are a male. If you were born with a womb, you are a female.

God is not a god of confusion.

John N

I understand. Religious people like it black and white. No complex stuff like gender identity, chromosomal disorders and hermaphrodites.

Just male and female. Simple.

And completely wrong of course.

David

It’s whatever an individual has or lacks between their legs at birth is what determines sexual orientation. The chromosomal observation was just sprinkles atop the icing, but you fools keep denying simple truths & find out exactly where that’ll get ya. lol
Romans 1:20-32King James Version (KJV)

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

John N

Does it? You really do not know very much about biology and human development, do you?

But of course you are free to show us how your bible determines ‘sexual orientation’. Since you seem to use it as a science book, that can not be to difficult, can it? And it gives you a nice opportunity to splutter some more bible verses.

David

It’s the infallible word of the living God Mr. John & if you spent any time actually studying the thing seriously then you would realize that every syllable of that prophetic text has come to pass and and still is as you scoff & will… Guess some have to find many things out the hard way, But the sad thing is when it comes to you effeminates it’ll be far too late…

Chip01

i bet she delivered a great speech, full of hope and kindness. Two things desperately missing in today’s world and in religion in general.

i don’t know everything about folks who identify themselves as transgendered, but it doesn’t seem difficult to understand, and easy to show compaction and support of a fellow human.

Jan

So if someone suffered from a mental disorder other than gender confusion, such as schizophrenia or self-mutilation, you would be fine with allowing them to wallow in their mental disorder? You do know that according to psychiatric experts, these people suffer from a mental disorder, and that there is no such thing as transgender and that the term was coined by those with a political agenda.

Chip01

That’s a lie.

It’s easy to lie
It seems hard to show compassion

hytre64

The mental illness is called Gender Dysphoria. It used to be known as Gender Dysphoria Disorder before the PC police objected to the word, “Disorder”. Before that, it was called, “Gender Confusion Disorder”.

It seems easier for some to call someone else a liar than to actually do the research.

IMHO, compassion would be helping them work through this mental/spiritual illness until they are cured, rather than enabling this sickness and pretending that it is normal.

If I had a black spot on my arm, I would rather that the Doctor told me it was melanoma and have it properly treated, than to have your type of “compassion” and just tell me that it is just a big “age spot” and ignore the cancer until it spreads and kills me.

Jan

I do not lie and if all you got in your quiver is to call people liars then you have already lost!

Chip01

Oh Jan…

If there is no such thing as Trabsgendered. Where is your proof in the existence of God? The same type of proof you would need to take back your lie that you said about transgendered people ?

And if you don’t have that roof, what do you call a group of people who believe In a fairytale that they have no proof exists?

Oh Jan…

Jan

Apples and oranges. You are doing what most people do when they are losing the debate – distract from the issue at hand by diverting to another totally different topic. My belief or disbelief in God has nothing to do with whether or not transgenderism is a valid lifestyle. The experts on the topic have declared that it is not and the DNA backs them up on that.

https://disqus.com/home/channel/fakethoughtsandprayers/ Chip01

You stalled 2 months to come up with this? A further lie?

What experts?

Amanda W.

I see the devil all over this. The voice inside him said: “What if the Bible is wrong?” the voice said. “What if you’ve been reading it wrong?” << God will not cast doubt on the Bible!!!!!…His very Holy written word! That statement alone is confusing and confusion is not of the Lord. First the voice asks what if the Bible is wrong, then it asks what if you're reading it wrong? See the confusion?
Discernment is so much needed in these days. Ask God, He will give you true discernment.

They are trying to get their sin justified, approved by the church and even legalised! And many are falling for the deception.

There are many claiming angelic 'experiences' lately. Let's see what the word of God says about this:

"Don’t let anyone capture you with empty philosophies and high-sounding nonsense that come from human thinking and from the spiritual powers of this world, rather than from Christ.
Don’t let anyone condemn you by insisting on pious self-denial or the worship of angels, saying they have had visions about these things. Their sinful minds have made them proud, and they are not connected to Christ, the head of the body.
Colossians 2:8,18-19

UPSETVET

These ” tramsgender ” creeps have one thing in comom, it’s all about them, What I want. what’s good for me etc etc etc

Jalapeno

You’re basing that on what, exactly? The fact that they’re fighting to be able to be in a comfortable situation?

It’s weird…I see tons of people who can’t even have the basic empathy and have actually ranted about how they shouldn’t be allowed in the bathroom at all. Do you think those people are only concerned about themselves?

Roy M Mckenzie

I really feel bad for this guy. He has been let down by his wife and society at large. This man needs mental health help. Instead this man has been affirmed in his mental illness. If he were a schizophrenic with multi-personality disorder, would it be appropriate for society to encourage more personalities?

Jalapeno

You think that it’s possible to transition without a doctor?

You think that they haven’t gone to multiple doctors and had them help determine the best course of action?

Jan

There are good and bad in every profession. He went to bad doctors who have a perverted political agenda, just as women do who decide they want to kill the innocent lives inside of them. According to leading members of the psychiatric community, in psychiatry there is now and never has been any transsexuals, that the term was coined by those with a particular political agenda and that these people simply suffer from what psychiatrists call gender confusion and need to be treated, not coddled.

Jalapeno

Transitioning is an accepted medical treatment.

So.. What do you suggest? Toss some Anti-depressants at them?

Slidellman4life

Excuse me, but we have a Canadian man in his 50s who says he is a six-year-old girl. He’s in the company of a couple who is treating him as if he is indeed what he says he is. But the guy is in fact looney tunes and it absolutely bothers me people are willing to accept what is clearly and obviously mental illness instead of showing true reason and compassion and getting this man into a place where he can get the help he truly needs.

The same applies to all who call themselves transgendered and those who support them.

Jalapeno

We have actual reasons to claim that someone who believes they are a different age is delusional.

That does not apply to transgender people. We have reason to believe that it’s not a delusional disorder and we have reason to believe that there is a mismatch between sex and gender.

Of course they should get help, but you don’t want trans people to get help… You seem to want them to get help that aligns with your ideals instead of what they decide is best with their doctor.

Slidellman4life

If you don’t believe that, you are just as delusional as they are.

Jalapeno

Everything I said was factual.

There are actual reasons to think that they are not simply delusional.

We can easily show that someone who thinks they are six years old is.

Not sure why you’d want to treat then the same.

Slidellman4life

No. What you said is an opinion. The fact is God doesn’t make mistakes and your gender is defined by your genitalia. Period.

Jalapeno

I know you have a need to keep things black and white, but you should do some research into how gender dysphoria doesn’t respond to treatment like delusional disorders do, and maybe how gender and sex aren’t black and white. Learning to think past your own bias can do a lot of good.

Slidellman4life

Again, science always changes. God never does.

This discussion is over.

Jalapeno

Not a fan of expanding your knowledge and doing some critical thinking?

Calvin375

What does that have to do with the Word of GOD? If anything, they need deliverance from this illness, not more man made head shrinking.

Jalapeno

So..are you hoping that they become religious and it magically goes away?

Calvin375

They can do whatever they want. They are the ones that have to answer to GOD of why they tried to change what He has created them to be and it certainly wasn’t female.

Jalapeno

So..you’re in support of gender transitioning if they decide that it’s best for them?

Glad to hear it.

hytre64

There is a similar mental disorder where the person suffers from the delusion that they are not the right species. Some of these individuals have gone to great lengths to disfigure themselves in such a way as to resemble the species that they believe themselves to be. Are we to disregard reality and actually treat these people as though they were wolves, cats, parrots, and dragons, or would the Christian thing to do be to help them overcome this spirit of deception?

Jalapeno

“Are we to disregard reality and actually treat these people as though they were wolves, cats, parrots, and dragons, or would the Christian thing to do be to help them overcome this spirit of deception?”

That depends..is it possible to prove that their brain does not correlate with the brain of a wolf?

hytre64

That is a “rabbit trail”, as my pastor would say. Objective reality is that those suffering from “Gender Dysphoria” and “Species Dysphoria” are suffering under a delusion that they are not what they really are. There are other types of delusions out there – people who feel that they were born in the wrong time period, that they are the wrong age or ancestry, or that they are the reincannation/spirit of some historical (or currently living) person. For all of these delusions, the compassionate treatment would be to cure them of these delusions, not to pretend that the delusion is correct and warp society to believe that 2+2=5.

Jalapeno

“bjective reality is that those suffering from “Gender Dysphoria” and “Species Dysphoria” are suffering under a delusion that they are not what they really are. ”

No..

We can’t say for sure they do not have a brain is more closely correlated to a man than a woman. We *can* say that they do not have the brain that correlates with a different species. The two situations are not comparable.

Typically, the treatment is to give them anti-psychotics or something similar and the delusion is, at least temporarily, lessened or completely gone. Of course..that doesn’t work with gender dysphoria. I wonder why that is?

Let me guess..you want to just give them some anti-depressants and tell them to get over it?

hytre64

Let me guess – you know nothing of spiritual counseling, of discipleship, deliverance, or about the ability of Jesus Christ to heal are restore those who are broken.

Bob Maddry

By whose rules?

Jalapeno

Just the basic rules of logic.

Calvin375

Yes, they are. They are saying that GOD is wrong and that He made a mistake, which is selfishness and an abomination unto Him. They are saying, that He did not know what He was doing. Who is man to tell GOD what He has done was wrong?! How incredibly arrogant and insane!

Jalapeno

They’re in that situation, so I guess it wasn’t a mistake then. You can interpret it however you want. If you decide though that people bodies never have major design flaws, you have a long road ahead of you.

Calvin375

Far from it. I’m not the one telling GOD He made a mistake with His design.

Jalapeno

So..you prefer to deny the facts?

Emmanuel

What did the serpent tell Eve?
same thing here.

diana

There is no such thing as an angel of reason. He has been deceived, and if he felt like a woman why did he get married? I am amazed that people at his church havent left.

hytre64

People don’t leave apostate churches for several reasons – (1) They were never saved to begin with (2) They love the preacher more than they love Jesus (3) They come to “feel good” about themselves, not to be taught, corrected, rebukes, instructed in righteousness (ie. changed). (4) they have ties to the church community that are more important to them or (6) they are babes in Christ and have never moved beyond milk and have not been taught to study the scripture for themselves.

Darah Gaz

Flakes and fruits are into themselves, not God.

Chip01

Allyson Robinso is living the life she was given.

I applaud her will to face hatred from people who don’t know her life.

Allyson Robinson is an example to follow when wanting to know more about Jesus, and kindness.

Emmanuel

How about sin? Allyson needs to confront her/his sin. We all do.

Chip01

Well maybe so.. Maybe not

What I do know – we all don’t need others casting stones at us.

Whatever Allyson’s sins – they are 1/10th as severe as the hatred folks on this site have casted against her..

Emmanuel

She claims to be a christians and preaches. So, we can throw stones and we must for her sake. Don’t believe me, how did Jesus treat the religious? What did Paul say about judging fellow christians?
She is preaching the incorrect Good News. She is not addressing sin. She is promoting sin or selectively excusing some and condemning other sins.
So, we need to discuss the issue, sin, that will prevent many from entering the kingdom of God or have eternal life.

Chip01

You lost me at thinking you have any right to throw stones at anyone

You hide like a coward behind a fake Internet name, exposing none of your own life’s journey for others to judge

Then, you try to claim you are Jesus and Paul like.

Emmanuel

Clearly, you are not familiar with the bible. So have a great one.

Chip01

Well. That was an easy “out” for you. But I appreciate your quick cut-n-run attitude. Speaks volumes.

Emmanuel

Do you read the Bible? Do you study the scriptures? If you lack understanding and don’t care to learn, why waste time? If you are, then we can talk. So have a great one.

Chip01

Back again?? Why?

Slidellman4life

Daniel is his name and he is lying to himself as well as others. And the delusions are not exclusive to him, apparently.

Chip01

Yea.. Your comment wasn’t interesting the 1st time.

Kelly Samuelson

So what he is saying is God made a mistake making him a man? God doesn’t make mistakes, he’s a man for a reason, THAT is Gods will

Terry Collmann

But what if God made him transgender?

Kelly Samuelson

God doesn’t make people transgender. Transgender is an abomination to God and his design for mankind. Even if a man ‘converts’ himself into a woman, he still doesn’t have the plumbing to carry a child. Men aren’t meant to be women and vice-versa. A man is still biologically a man if he presents himself to the world as one or not

joe smith

You don’t make any sense.

http://HisPlaceDanville.com Stephen Anderson

Just proves that one can be a baptist and not a Christian. The Alliance of Baptists is an association of apostates.

jjgrndisland

They are tiny, like a speck of dust compared to the mountain of Southern Baptists. Liberal churches are all shrinking way to nothing, good riddance.

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

This queer is not a Baptist, but a mole or a sleeper cell of the devil.

EscapetheDarkness

Did Mr. Robinson test this spirit–this “angel of reason”–in order to see if it was from YHVH (God) or not? Or did he just accept what it called itself and what it said to him because he liked what it said to him?

Remember:

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 [NET Bible]
“11:14 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 11:15 Therefore it is not surprising his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will correspond to their actions.”

robertzaccour

That wasn’t an “angel of reason” talking to him. He’s a gender challenged male. What’s with all the public pressure of trying to force society to conform to their delusions?

Emmanuel

This story led me to Eve and the serpent’s conversation. What was the topic?
I see it the same way.

hytre64

I had the exact same impression… “Did God really say…”

This angel called “Reason” may really have visited him, but an unfallen Angel would not be questioning the Word of God.

Emmanuel

exactly, heavenly angels do the work of God and glorify God. Anything else, is not from God.

David Swanson

Galatians 1:8-9 (KJV)

8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you
than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel
unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Mark Brookhart

The confusion for this person doesn’t end with gender dysphoria. His main confusion is with “hearing” God. When the “voice” Robinson heard said, ““What if God hasn’t fixed you because you’re not broken?” Robinson said he heard inside of himself. “That can’t be true,” he thought. “The Bible says I’m broken.” “What if the Bible is wrong?” the voice said. “What if you’ve been reading it wrong?”… at that point it should all become very clear to anyone who analyzes this voice as to it’s origin. It is demonic, not angelic. In the Garden, the serpent came to Eve and said essentially the same thing. The serpent tempted Eve to sin by saying, “He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’? ” 2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’” 4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” Just like Eve, Robinson ate the fruit. “What if you are misunderstanding God?” the voice said to Robinson. Robinson believed this voice who said “What if the Bible is wrong.” At that moment it became clear that he was unable to correctly discern the Word of God. The Bible is God’s word and is not wrong. Robinson, who chose against the Scripture, is wrong, clearly wrong. He believed and still believes the Devil’s lies. The truth is, we are ALL broken and need God to restore us. All have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God.

Robinson was and is broken and does not discern between the voice of a devil and the voice of God. I am confident to assume that he is unable to rightly divide the Word of God on other matters as well.” He needs professional help. He does not need to be “helping” others to fall into the same delusions.

PBHayes

This guy is clearly mentally ill just like all the other people who claim to some gender they aren’t. The same is true with homosexuals.

brotherjohnf

“What if the Bible is wrong?” the voice said. That would be the devil.

When the “voice of God” sounds just like your own voice, it’s time to be suspicious. Or, as C. S. Lewis put it, when we converse with the devil, we are talking to ourselves. God doesn’t tell man to to believe he is a woman. Not knowing your own sex sounds more like the liar Satan than God.

Michelle Yvonne Kimley

I’ve read many of these comments and some of them make me sad. The judgment thrown at this person in Gods name makes me sad. Is this how Christians are suppose to act? Are we so unblemished that we can judge so freely? On another note, from what the article stated there are a few options that could answer the reasoning for the transition in an better light. When the Doctor claimed the child was a boy, was his genitalia fully developed or was it a I don’t really know so we’ll call the baby a boy and everyone went with it. That does happen. Or does this person we are so quick to judge have an extra chromosome? Although rare, that happens too. If either of these are the case, is it possible that is was Human error and that this person is now as God intended them to be? This article doesn’t bring up these possiblities but it doesn’t deny them either. So we shouldn’t be judging this person for their choice. And perhaps the change over will reach some of those who have stayed away for fear of the very persecution that we are so quickly and willing to spew from our mouths and keyboards. The best way to bring people to Christ is not through Hellfire and Brimstone but through Love.

Max

No one on this thread has even mentioned Hellfire except you.

Michelle Yvonne Kimley

Hellfire may not have been mentioned. I said I read many, not all. However I stand by my last sentiment. Also, what does all this judgement, some say rebuke(although to me some looked like rebuke made out of disgust instead of love), look like to someone who is still searching. Who hasn’t hardened their hearts? Some of these comments would have them turn tail and run. What right do we have to call someone an Abomination. Who are we to say someone’s walk with Christ is wrong? We don’t know their relationship with Christ. That is only something them and Christ knows. Those are two things I’ve seen while reading this thread and it is not hard for someone searching to make the small jump from there.

Chip01

You are correct.
“Monster” was even a term used early on.

People are fake Christians.

Max

Some f-g judging other people. Funny.

Slidellman4life

Dude, unless you are a Christian yourself, who reads the Bible and understands and believes what it says, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Shut your piehole.

Chip01

LOL ok big man.

You are the perfect Christian representative. Full of “welcoming” and “love”

A perfect example of what Christianity has become, today. Corrupted by hateful people.

Slidellman4life

Says someone who knows *zero* about Christianity.

I have already said twice how and why this man is a complete nutter. Christians don’t accept such garbage because when someone decides to be something they are not, like a man being a woman, a woman being a man, a man being a six year old girl, a woman being a cat, etc, reasonable people (i.e. Christians) see it for what it is: mental illness.

True compassion is getting these people help, not supporting and encouraging it. In fact, those that do the latter are not mentally sound either.

Chip01

ok. Let’s talk crazy :
You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

You feel insulted and “dehumanized” when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs — though excluding those in all rival sects – will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most “tolerant” and “loving.”

If you made it this far, I’ll end this comment with this…
It takes a crazy person to know a crazy person.

So in the end who is she harming by living the life she truly believes she is?

Because – it is very evident from yours and other ‘Christians’ harsh words here that you do intend harm to her.

Slidellman4life

You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

You feel insulted and “dehumanized” when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs — though excluding those in all rival sects – will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most “tolerant” and “loving.”

None of this is relevant to the subject matter.

And as I have apparently not made myself clear, I am going to say this one more time, separate from everything else:

People who believe themselves to be a woman when they are a man, a man when they are a woman, a six-year-old girl when they are a man, a cat when they are a woman, etc, are mentally and emotionally disturbed and should be treated as such. Those who support and encourage the mentally ill are equally disturbed and have no rightful place in society.

You say wrong is right, good is evil and common sense and simple logic need not apply, and those who believe otherwise, well, there is something wrong with them. And in this, you merely prove my point.

We are done here.

Max

OK, so judging people is wrong,
unless YOU are doing it.

Got it. Hypocrite.

ComeOnPeople!

It’s called reality. A spade is a spade. A duck is a duck. If you have a penis you are a man period. The bible does not put up with sin. If we sin and acknowledge it , then we are to turn away from it and sin no more. We are not to call good, evil nor evil good. We are to proclaim the ways of the Lord , not deny them so that people are not offered . The word of God is the only sure foundation and if you point people back to it who are living contrary to it then you truly love them and care for their souls. Many will come to Jesus and say we did this and that in your name and He will reply, “Depart from me you workers of iniquity (lawlessness) I never knew you “. You can call yourself whatever you desire but in the end a true believer keeps the ways of God, loving the sinner , yet hating sin.

Slidellman4life

Daniel isn’t walking with Christ. He is trapped in a mental illness and teaching heresy.

ComeOnPeople!

Yes we are to call sin a sin. We are to love but not in the way the new church & world now define love. Love does not let someone die in a fire merely because they say leave me alone it’s not hot. Love pulls them from the fire and explains the reality of their situation. Love never accepts sin, nor poor behavior because true love always wants the best for others. If a persons choices are leading them off a cliff to their death, I’d say those pointing it out love them much more then those who stay silent or tell them it’s okay the choice is theirs.

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

MATT.23: = 31 “Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers’ guilt. 33 Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell?

Jan

You are not bringing people to God by allowing and condoning them to live their lives wallowing in their sinful ways. Do you believe you are bringing an adulterer to God by allowing them to continue live as an adulterer? Do you believe you are bringing murderers, thieves & liars to God if you continue to allow them to live their lives as murderers, thieves & liars? If you want to bring people to God, you do it by helping them turn from their sinful ways.

Slidellman4life

God intended Daniel to be a man. And don’t tell Christians how they are supposed to act when you don’t even know what a Christian is.

Olderthanyou

So if this “angel of reason” affirmed him to be a goldfish, would he be swimming in a large glass bowl now? Society has taken a large swath of behavior formerly labeled as aberrant, and reclassified it as just an alternate lifestyle.

“…small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.”

I hope that Daniel discovers it before it is too late.

cantunderstandit

God does NOT make mistakes…..

Chip01

Whatever Allyson’s sins, they don’t add up to the hated shown her by most commenters here.

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

ROM.9:13 = 13 As it is written, “Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated.”[Malachi.1:2-3]

Jan

The only reason we are being tough on him is because he is preaching lies. You can not let liars get away with their lies.

Chip01

Christianity has been around for much longer than Allyson.

localhistorywriter

Telling the truth is “hate”?

You have issues of your own to deal with.

Chip01

Who doesn’t?
Are you perfect? Jesus type perfect?
McCall back when you hit Jesus level of perfect – till then, sit down.

Slidellman4life

His name is Daniel. Get it straight.

Chip01

Allyson. She is Allyson to those who know and love her. Or to those who just support her path in life

To those closed minded haters, have no reason to hate … You probably will call her a different name

tovlogos

Never is there a mystery regarding the mind boggling embrace of this sin.
The Bible gives us numerous proof texts to guide us through this cursed world.
If we consciously go against the word of God, we lose our way. Therefore Daniel Robinson is not a minister of the gospel — he’s a lost soul; and those who ordained him participate in his fall. What can he “teach” anyone about the word of God when he speaks of his own “reason”, and certainly not God’s? He cannot possibly develop a biblical hermeneutic.

http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Kingdom Ambassador

More fallout from the Baptists’ antinomianism:

“The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto Yahweh thy God.” (Deuteronomy 22:5)

For more on how Yahweh’s triune moral law (His Ten Commandments and their respective statutes and judgments, including Deuteronomy 22:5) apply and should be implemented today, see free online book “Law and Kingdom: Their Relevance Under the New Covenant.” Click on my picture, then our website. Go to our Online Books page and scroll down to title.

Then “A Biblical Constitution: A Scriptural Replacement for Secular Government.”

disqus_O2BUmbLecp

For Gentile Christians, they should also refer to ACTS.15:28-29, ie God has exempted them from all of His/ /Moses Law that r a burden to them, eg circumcision, kosher foods, keeping Sabbath day strictly on Friday n other ceremonial/customary Jewish laws.
……. They should gradually learn to keep the Ten Commandments n other non-burdensome moral laws of God, eg DEUT.18:9-14, LEV.10:9, LEV.18:22-23, etc. Beware of the sins/evil-deeds/law-breaking of 1COR.5:1-5 & 6:9-11, HEB.10:26-31, 1COR.11:30.

http://www.larryfarlow.com/ Larry Farlow

“What if the Bible is wrong?” hissed the snake. “What if you’ve been reading it wrong?”

ComeOnPeople!

oh and don’t forget, “Yeh hath God said?”

Dale Barry

Try and capture the crown Whats 80 years here to an eternity of Joy and peace.

Estoban

I really don’t care what a person calls themselves, but will never receive teaching from one who calls the Bible wrong.

http://thevinevigil.wordpress.com sage_brush

If he prefers Tupac and Beyonce to Isaac Watts – that’s enough to disqualify his pastorate for most Christians. Johnny Cash is his inspiration? He does not know Jesus Christ as Savior. He is either mentally ill, or demonically possessed, or both. And apparently so is his wife.

We’ll probably be seeing the entire family on a new reality show soon. God help us.

ComeOnPeople!

The doctors looked and declared what they saw. It’s called reality! To say you are a woman when you have a penis is unrealistic and just plain silly. A person who has a penis is a male. That is just plain fact. A dress, lip stick and pearls on a pig no more make it a woman then does a dress, lip stick and pearls on a man make him a woman. Our society has lost touch with reality!

mbabbitt

These Progressive unChristians do not seem to understand Christian theology 101 – “Hello: this is a fallen world.” Babies are born with abnormalities (like cleft palate) and what do civilized people do? Yes, they perform medical procedures to correct the abnormality and restore the child to normal. They don’t just accept them as they are. Jesus did not accept the delusions people lived under – He saw who they really were and touched them deeply and told them to repent.

Jan

You are comparing a physical disability with a mental disorder.

DW

I thought this site would not tolerate blasphemy. If that is so, WHY are they giving publicity to such unbiblical TRASH? If MR. Robinson actually heard from an ‘angel,’ he can be certain it was a fallen one. An actual angel of the Lord would never question the Word of God! This dude needs to repent.

http://www.omegashock.com/ John Little

When it says… “The nation’s first ‘transgender’ Baptist preacher” …I’m in shock.

As I’ve said, I’m not surprised. Just shocked. And I add, ‘sickened’, ‘depressed’, ‘outraged’ and ‘horrified’. I could add more, but you get the picture.

I’m not even going to ask how we got here. You KNOW how we got here. The bigger question is HOW we get OUTTA here!

Seriously, this should act as a clear sign that YOU should NOT be where you are, right now. Get as far from the blast zone, as possible. God’s judgment is coming.

Please God… help us all.

John Little
omegashock dot com

Ax2root

The devil appears as an ” angel of light”

That is why we need to ” rightly divide” ( bible , Timothy) The Word of God BY THE HOLY SPIRIT,!,!

WHO ALLOWED THIS SPIRITUALLY CONFUSED AND MENTALLY UNSOUND MAN to be in the Baptist pulpit???

Not only him but THOSE PEOPLE should be held accountable!!,!

He needs DELIVERANCE and a mind renewed in The Word of God, NOT A PULPIT TO PREACH A LIE

Rüdiger Thiede

Oh yeah, an Angel of Reason appeared and just happened to say what they wanted to hear. That seems completely reasonable and not at all like the ravings of a self-deluded person. It’s almost like something called “Gender Identity Disorder” is a mental “disorder” or something. But … that can’t be … that’s hateful … isn’t it? /sarcasm

TheBottomline4This

This trans issue is a mental/emotional issue.

hytre64

I believe that is also (even primarily) a spiritual issue.

Slidellman4life

….

Rick Smith

BAPTISTS? Well, if they’ve gone down the drain into the cesspool of depravity, I guess we can start marking off the days on the calendar.
Super glue yourself to Jesus Christ because our end is NIGH!

Daniel Burke

Christian News has the nerve to give this man (yes, “man”) a platform to defend his personal depravity, but they have the gall to post Commenting Guidelines that say “. . . we will not tolerate remarks containing profanity, vulgarity, violence, blasphemy, all caps or any discourteous behavior.” Can you say “Hypocrisy” and “Cowardice”?

hytre64

IMHO, a man dressing as a woman and pretending to be a woman is vulgar, and asserting that and angel of God told him to do so is profane.

Herb Planter

hahaha lord have mercy a tranny preacher, really ppl, what’s next ?

LadyFreeBird♥BlessedBeTheLord

I don;t think I want to know what’s next.

DJohn1

The problem I have with it is the Jewish System does not support women as ministers because God does not support them.
I speak of metabolism and the blood cycle every month as a reason why this is so. It has nothing to do with anything else. When God is moving in his temple the odor of blood must not be there except that of the sacrifice of an innocent lamb. When God takes that sacrifice then he may just take the woman as well.
Christianity does not do sacrifice of the lamb ceremonies.
The idea being that Christ died as the sacrifice of the lamb on the cross for all of us.
But the God moving in the temple brought forth by the sacrifice of the innocent lamb is part of the past not the present. Further there were restrictions on dealing with God in the Temple. Those restrictions spoke clearly of a living entity not a dead God.
There were no apologies for God’s actions.
Just as the blood of the lamb was put above the entrance to a building at the passover in Egypt as a signal to God. Jesus once said nothing of the law will be changed or replaced. He was right!
Where Christians have changed the laws of God there has been punishments.
The dietary laws given by Moses is a direct law of God to his people the Jews.
Yet Christians eat pork all the time. In autopsies throughout the country parasites have been found in the muscle tissue of those that eat pork.
There is law and then there is God’s laws. Where those original laws have been twisted or changed, nothing in God’s actual laws have changed.
When any abomination enters the temple of God, it will be destroyed by God not man.
All this tells me one thing. God is not walking in that temple.
They are basically worshiping but are they actually worshiping God? That all remains to be seen by the fruits of the church they are dealing with.
Even Jesus in his ministry submitted to God even though he was one with God in the trinity.
Today he left the Holy Spirit as his comforter until his return.
That Spirit exists, it is a living entity. We worship a living God. To do so means obeying God’s rules. It means there are no laws of convenience.
But that is something people will have to learn. Just read the Old and New Testaments and judge for one’s self.
It is good that we respect all people’s religions not just our own.

If Allyson Robinson identifies as a woman, why does this article use the pronouns he, him, his? SHE has made clear how she would like to be addressed, please respect your fellow human as the “Bible” would want you to.

hytre64

We will not be part of the deception that a man is really a woman. God said that a man dressing as a woman is an abomination to Him (Deut 22:5).

Therefore, we have a choice. Do we offend this man who is pretending to be a woman, or do we offend our God? I choose not to offend God.

equality4all

Ms. Robinson identifies as a women and wears female clothing, so I do not understand your argument based on that verse. Also don’t bold “abomination,” because every translation is different. Or do you believe your bible was written in English?

hytre64

He may have a mental illness/spiritual deception that he is a female, but that does not make it so. He was born a male is is still a male who dresses in female clothing and pretends to be a female.

I bolded the word abomination, as I doubted that most people commenting here could translate תּוֹעֵבָה, which Strong’s Dictionary translates as ;
properly, something disgusting (morally), i.e. (as noun) an
abhorrence; especially idolatry or (concretely) an idol:—abominable (custom, thing), abomination.

The KJV almost universally translated this as “an abomination”.

Since this person went to cemeterySeminary, they should presumably have had classes both in Hebrew and in Hermeneutics (ie studying & understanding the Bible). Given that, the widespread availability of tools for Bible Studies (Dictionaries, Lexicons, cross-references, commentaries, etc), this person who claims wisdom, revelation from an angel, and the right and anointing to be a pastor is without excuse to not know and understand this verse.

equality4all

I’d love to see your doctorate in medicine before you start shouting about mental illness. Otherwise, do not abuse medicine with your religion.

Second, If you prefer to keep it in the spiritual realm, as befits this man who claims to be a pastor. He has a spiritual problem in that he is suffering from a persistent delusion that has sucked him into sin and believed what he claimed to be a an angel who taught him contrary to scripture. What is worse is then he goes on to preach this spiritual error to others, attempting to trap them into lives of sin and non-repentance.

equality4all

How is preaching love and acceptance a “trap”?

hytre64

If they never teach about God’s Love, His Mercy, Repentance from Sins, and the Price that Jesus paid to redeem you from those sins., but instead only preach, “I’m OK. Your OK”, then they will miss out on being saved, redeemed from their sins in both this life and the next.

hytre64

I’d love to see your doctorate of theology before you start talking about religion…

equality4all

Those are hardly comparable. But I appreciate your conversational intellect.

hytre64

Why not? I have an associates in Theology. My wife and three of my children have Bachelors degrees in Theology…

equality4all

Associates = 2 years. Bachelors = 4 years. Doctorate = Bachelors + 4 years. Also all of those in theology can be obtained online. Would you want your doctor to have an online degree with zero practical experience?

hytre64

Yes, our study is at a local, accredited college. Two year & four year degrees in theology – and what do you have?

Does that make us experts? No. But what it means is that we take it seriously. That plus 30 years of self-study and years of practical experience in ministry.

Not trying to get into a measuring contest with you. Originally, I was just yanking your chain because of your comments about a medical degree. This, however, is a spiritual problem, and yes, I do have a couple of Th.D.s that I have studied under that would agree with me.

pslinger

Genesis 1:27 “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.”

This whole “transgender” phenomenon is in opposition to God’s created order, and thus is the work of the forces of darkness. And I believe part of the “strong delusion” Paul warned us about.

Tim Kellogg

God does not make mistakes

equality4all

No, God’s purpose for Ms. Robinson was for her to share her story with other people struggling with their gender identity. To spread love unto all.

TheBottomline4This

The god you are talking about may do that, but not God. God makes no mistakes when He makes us the gender we are born and will die, regardless of what some think.

equality4all

Your argument does not address that Ms. Robinson’s gender is female, which does not match with her birth sex. This does not imply a mistake, that’s your interpretation.

hytre64

First, he needs to *overcome* her adversity, not surrender to it. Then he can share his testimony of how Jesus Christ enable him to endure and to overcome this delusion.

For we overcome by the Blood of the Lamb and the word of our Testimony.

TheBottomline4This

100% right Tim!!!

Tim Kellogg

First off I have compassion for each individual who suffers in this bondage what a miserable dark road this must be to travel I would not wish this torment on any one. Second this is a lie from the pit of hell itself what a deception to get someone to believe they are something their not you can tuck,cut,slice,dice,take a pill stomp your feet whine shout it from the rooftops and scream till your blue in the face call names try and shame change your name your look and your lifestyle. You can deceive, believe and try to appease. There is no medical or biological procedure nothing psychological or spiritual that will ever truly make a man a woman or a woman a man so to throw this up in the air for another lie for people to grab on to and tickle misguided and indoctrinated ears is nonsense. Because at the end of the day when you lay your head down on that pillow no matter what you have done to try and change it ,you will always be the person God created you to be if a man a man and if a woman a woman

Getreal

To be inclined is not the same as to be consigned. Given the fall of humanity and total depravity, it is not surprising that we as sinners are inclined to to all manner of illegitimate desires–what the Bible calls the lust of the flesh–whether it is homosexuality, gender confusion, alcoholism, or adultery. But having a sinful predisposition does not make any of these necessary, absolute, or fixed. By the grace of God I am not what I used to be (1 Cor. 6:9-11). By God’s grace it is possible for me to exchange those errant desires I have for His stated will in Scripture. But Robinson’s personal self-justifications for mutilating his body amount to nothing less than defacing the way God made him. All the surgery and ongoing hormone treatments in the world won’t change his chromosomes. Robinson is living an absolute lie and is no teacher of righteousness. He is nothing less than a pied piper of perversity. May he truly find saving grace before it is too late.

JJJ4J

Did the silly man not realise who it was who was talking to him? An angel of reason my eye, the one who was talking to him was the one who spoke to Eve in Genesis 3.

http://www.facebook.com/david.cousins.14 David Cousins

look up in Dt. what God said about a man who had his “stones” crushed. Then try & explain how God supports this “pastor”…who crushed his “stones” on purpose.

Gena B

Pastors who teach the truth are called by God, then there are those who profess to know him, yet can’t even get a true grasp of Genesis. “And then will I profess to them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity.” Matt 7:23

lcuvillier

This guy needs to get on his rocket ship and fly to pluto to catch up with his brain….whew – he is out there. Maybe if he listened less to Dylan, Tupac and Beyonce’ and more to Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, he would be in his right mind…wow, just wow.

http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Kingdom Ambassador

More fallout from the Baptists’ antinomianism:

“The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto Yahweh thy God.” (Deuteronomy 22:5)

For more on how Yahweh’s triune moral law (His Ten Commandments and their respective statutes and judgments, including Deuteronomy 22:5) apply and should be implemented today, see free online book “Law and Kingdom: Their Relevance Under the New Covenant.” Click on my picture, then our website. Go to our Online Books page and scroll down to title.

Then “A Biblical Constitution: A Scriptural Replacement for Secular Government.”

Israel Gordillo

I want to know where the leadership of the greater Baptist Church is no this. Is the church who ordained this person part of the Baptist convention? If they don’t speak up and break from this Church people will believe they approve of this nonsense.

Found One

To the author: You may well disagree with Robinson’s opinion, but Sir, please have the courtesy to address her by her proper gender.

Found One

Just as Paul so many years ago, Ms Robinson has had a vision of our Lord, and how He wants us to proceed.

Found One

God designed Man, he designed Woman, and in an attempt to finally get it right, He in all of His Wisdom, designed LGBTQ.

Found One

God only made Man and Woman so as to never run out of LGBTQ.

Amos Moses

PC(USA) OKs Additional Sins

LOUISVILLE, KY—By a nearly unanimous vote, the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church (USA) voted to overlook or explicitly endorse a number of additional sins in what is being perceived as an attempt to slow its rapid pace of membership decline.

As balloons came down, the PC(USA) commissioners danced in the aisles to the Kool & The Gang 1980 party standard Celebrate and some attendees openly wept for joy as the denomination announced their official endorsement of pride, gossip, sorcery, covetousness, theft, and sexual immorality as a general category.

“Finally,” sobbed self-described “open gossiper” attendee Rebecca Arnett. “I no longer have to live a lie. Now I can confidently be the gossip God made me to be. Did you hear about Lauren’s husband, by the way?”

Commissioner Ray Louis outlined a denominational strategy, saying plummeting membership numbers point to a need for churches to align themselves more with the culture, and that condoning additional sins is the way to do just that. “Look, the fact is, pure and simple, the Bible is antiquated,” explained Louis. “We need to do some serious editing if we’re going to reach people with the love of Jesus and his message of negotiable morality.”

Louis further hinted that if the strategy proves successful, further sins may still be accepted into the fold in the near future. “I don’t want to spill the beans,” said Louis cautiously, “but let’s just say bearing false witness isn’t off the table.”

Many PC(USA) advocates, like Rod Pringle, a pastor from Olympia, WA who also practices sorcery in his free time, see this move as a great step forward. “Look, all this is really doing is giving presbyteries the discretion to endorse things like sorcery at a local level. Frankly, I think that’s completely in line with traditional church practice. If someone wants to summon a Balrog, but does it in a way consistent with their individual Christian walk, well then who am I to judge?”

The PC(USA) also confirmed that due to budget cuts and a diminishing need for space, next year’s assembly would be held in the back of a church school bus.

The BabylonBee

Evangelist Toni Lowe

This person says an angel of the Lord called “Reason” said what if the Bible is wrong? God would not send one of his angels to contradict his word! His Word is True and God is not a man that he should lie. Besides that heaven and earth will pass away but not one jot or tittle of his word will pass away! God stands by his word to perform it! People need to stop adding too or taking away from the WORD!!!!

http://www.remnantofgod.org/ John1429dotorg

This is the same “angel of reason” that lead to the martyrdom of thousands of God’s people during the French Reformation. This angel…is a fallen angel…

Keith Jenkins

I see one big problem with many of the arguments on this issue. God created everything in the beginning, His creation was good, and He created all to reproduce “after its kind.” God created ADAM in His image and made Eve from Adam’s side. Our original parents sinned and the image of God in man was obliterated. After their sin and expulsion from the garden, Adam and Eve bore children “after his kind,” just as the rest of creation. God did not directly create me, I was conceived by my parents who were both descended from Adam and Eve. The further mankind “progressed” from our originally created parents, the greater the results of sin are evidenced in our human bodies. When we trust Christ the image of God is restored in our hearts, but our bodies still maintain their physical imperfections. The image of God will be restored to every part of our being when we see Christ, for we shall then be made “as He is.” The weaknesses and wickedness of our fallen human nature have us under condemnation, but “if any man be in Christ he is a new creation: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.” “There is now therefore NO CONDEMNATION to them that are IN CHRIST JESUS.” EVERYONE who is willing to turn from their sin and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ as their Savior will be forgiven and cleansed from their sin. Those who wish to embrace and glorify their sin CANNOT be saved. Christ came to save us FROM our sins, not in our sins.

Southern living

How sad this man has been lead by the evil enemy. Such lost souls, everything he represents is completely against Gods righteousness.

Dale A. Carr

You are one sick fuck. No nicer way to say it then that.

hytre64

A nicer way to say it – “You are mentally ill, and have been deceived.”

Pamela

This pastor is not a woman, he stood up a lied in front of God and the congregation. God created him a man that was his plan, instead he destroyed what God created and is living a lie. I don’t believe that there was an angel of reason, who told him that the bible was wrong the word of God isn’t wrong. A good Christian will not deny what God created and live a falsehood. Deuteronomy 22:5 isn’t a lie

Paul T. Adams

Quote: Robinson has explained that he went into therapy but kept his gender
identity issues as secret until graduating from Baylor due to the
seminary’s policies about homosexuality and transgenderism.So he/she is a liar and a cheat also ?

Paul T. Adams

Heather Clark,since you are having so much trouble with the English to Hebrew translation of abomination in the Torah and Targum in Leviticus 18:22, let 1 Corinthians 6:9 clear it up for you !/King James Bible
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be
not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor
effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
New International Version
“‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable./ [dih-tes-tuh-buh l] 1.–deserving to be detested; “abominable” hateful.

http://www.dontneednostinkinwebsite.com/ Midlandr

What if you’re mentally ill and refuse to accept that. XX or XY, I really doubt the physician was wrong. God hasn’t “fixed” you as you have not acknowledged, nor accepted your brokenness.

Could you please at least use the proper pronouns of the people in question in the future? You wouldn’t like it if people constantly called YOU bu the wrong honorifics and pronouns. Debate the wrong/rightness of being trans in positions of religious power all you want but please at the very least give them the same degree of respect you give everyone else, even people you don’t like.

Herb Planter

No way this clown is Baptist.

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