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I agree.And then ppl do a bit too much TMI. Like your bits and have a extensive collection of pix? Great.If one can't remember where they stored their pictures maybe do a cheat sheetYears ago I attended this women's group, we were all to sit and check ourselves in a mirror. I looked around for the hidden cameras." Sure jessica film everyone"All good, seen my more often that I actually needed to ( and I have seen inside shots that made me pass out on the gurney)Guess the Gyno doing the procedure thought we wanna see what he is doing up thereI didn't think he was dusting

Yeah 'cuz she's just a crazy, wild,potentially unfaithful womanwho's not relationship material because she enjoystaking photos of her vagina!?

Judgemental much?

Taking photos of her vag is not the issue. Its whom the are for and for what intent that makes her updatable. You know that to be the truth as well yet try to spin it into something its not.

If men could manage to see women as decentand sexy it might help women to be more openand uninhibited!

Men did see women as decent and sexy back in the 70s. Then something happened which made women more uninhibited, commoditizing their sexuality in the process. You were conned right into the hands of male sexual reproductive strategy and how you have to live with the consequence.

I went and looked at the ops posting history, rather than go back and read four pages of reply's.What I saw made me look at some of the reply's.Can I just say, WOW?!Ok, so this woman loves this guy enough to trust him and tells him her personal sexual history and this is the result.She's in her 40's for Gawd sakes, and he's close to it.I guess he would have felt secure in himself if she would have gone to a plastic surgeon and had a new hymen put into place, so she could pretend to be a virgin?!AWWWW, a woman in her forty's has had sex with other men? Say it isn't so shoeless Joe! :DNow, here he is, on a public forum, telling COMPLETE strangers all this, but people are buying that SHE is in the wrong somehow?!There are trust issues here all right.HE is the problem.She has had other lovers, she takes pictures of her lady parts, films it, is adventurous sexually and this little priss gets himself all in a tizzy when other men would be genuflecting with gratitude.She's HIS now, but does he deserve her?NOPE.I should stop now, my temper is coming on with this one and the continued sexual double standards I still see some other forum members admitting they have is sickening.

^^^Don't let 'em get you mad beautiful :) it's the same old dross that some people think/feel, you can't change a way of thinking on here, ever. Myself excluded, I'm readily open to change and admitting I'm wrong, not my fault I never am lol

I'm just glad I don't take these types of pics on my phone, I paint self-portraits, works of art. My lastest masterpiece is titled Predator (jk)

I should stop now, my temper is coming on with this one and the continued sexual double standards I still see some other forum members admitting they have is sickening.

I don't know is it a double standard? A woman could come on here and say she found a bunch of dic pics on her boyfriends phone and some of these people might say some of the same stuff despite the change in gender. I think they are stiff on here either side of the fence you throw the ball. I'll be honest and say I got a collection of dic pics on my phone and have had an SO question it. I'm the kind of guy that would video you giving me a blow job so it can vary from person to person. Do I think she was sending these private pics to whomever just because she took the pictures? No. I think the real issue messing with the OP is what if she sent them to the other guys but not him and what does that mean.

When I was dating I was texting a woman and she had multiple recipients in the sent of the text. As in she was sending me and several other suitors the same messages. I immediately separated out the convo she made a group thinking no one could see what she was doing when they all could. I let her know politely of her mistake and let her know that is what dating is for everyone. As in we aren't exclusive so her being courted by other men is fine by me. She still got angry at me as if I had done something wrong and stopped everything before it began right then. Sometimes you can't win no matter what and that's just the way it is. I'm just saying it's hard to call it a double standard when you don't have an example of the other side of the coin to compare it to.

RoxyMoronic- Predator, that made me laugh, thank you for that.I took a deep breath and calmed myself a bit, but yes, seeing people say things like "she had sex with 3 guys in a week, so dump her" brought on some anger.First of all, we don't know her side of the story.People are taking what this guy is saying at face value, as if it's the gospel.But what if she did?How long ago was it?Does it even matter, at this point?I am just SO over people saying......Oh, I want someone who loves sex, frigid women are 'itches or Wow, that woman is HOT, man do I want her.Then, here we have a woman who talked privately with her boyfriend about her sex life, and he's on here telling God and everybody else, who all? His cousin too, I think he said.I guess it's debatable if I should have gotten mad for her, but dang, she's not here to defend herself, so I did it.Mr. Prissy is SO worried she did this, but he's on here and telling people, not just here, but in real life too, but SHE is a bad person?!Give me a break!

The real question is: does she engage in ANY other kind of behavior that makes you think she would cheat?

Yeah, she told him sex stories and such -- and that she slept with 3 men in 1 week before (bragging?).

She may have been looking for signs of abnormality or disease.

She said she wanted to know what it looked like from another person's perspective. I can see a few. On different time periods, galleries? I think the other person's perspective is other dudes. Again, she thought she deleted them -- or much like a guy going "Sh!t, I thought I removed those porn mags from my nightstand dresser." She never sent him sex-pics, so saying that "Yeah, I sent out pics/videos to other guys before when single," would make him feel a bit more of an outsider.

I don't understand the bending-over-backwards thing of defending her as if she's someone's family member. If it was new guy a gal was dating who had two jerking-it videos, and galleries in different time periods of****pics of himself -- and he goes "Oops, I thought I deleted those," when trading phones taking look-sees being comfortable with each other -- and him bragging/saying how he slept with 3 women in 1 week before [flipping hair], you should Laugh at guys running to the rescue of the gal's new BF that she has concerns about!

I'll say this: It doesn't mean she is cheating or is In Fact destined to cheat, no. No more than it was a He and the gender roles were reversed. But it'd be silly to say there's nothing to be truly concerned about. I would have been more comfortable if she said "Yeah, I've exchanged nude pics before with guys I've started dating." At least it'd line up with the I've-slept-with-3-people-in-a-week announcement. But to say she wanted it from another person's perspective -- which is fuzzy (you or other people?) and just implies she doesn't want to pour gasoline on a fire that she can sense has at least a bit of a flame to it by trying to put in a "nice" explanation. And hey, she could be one of those gals who's wild when single, but not when in a Relationship -- even if the relationship's faltering, the kind of person who's not going to even flirt with others. But bet on that? No. You're going to need a lot demonstrated in That direction to solidify it. In a new relationship that can be tough.

So I say to OP -- talk with her about it... just don't go to the Doc to get anxiety pills. Have a talk with her about it. Don't bottle up worries & concerns to marinate and paint the worst picture of her that's too unfair which is Finally expressed on her like an unkinked hose... work with her on it and be straight-forward. She was about sexual stunts she's pulled, and you should be about this. It'll at least move the ball down field to where it should be.

I believe her that they were for her own reassurance, however a tiny part of my brain wonders if she was taking these to share with men texting.

You've asked and she's denied...it's up to you whether or not to believe her. Sounds like she's been pretty blunt about her past sexual experiences. Why would she lie about this? What would be the point? You gave her a "promise ring"...was the "promise" just to "love" her until your insecurities and/or suspicions got the best of you?

This reeks of FB drama to me. You know...the people who proclaim their "love" to someone...then days/weeks/months later; they're back to a single status. It seems to always be the same folks doing it, too.

As a man I know my penis well, do women really not know about how their vaginas look at that age?

You've asked and she's denied...it's up to you whether or not to believe her. Sounds like she's been pretty blunt about her past sexual experiences. Why would she lie about this? What would be the point?

To not lay it on too thick when you read they're not taking it well or "Ehh, shouldn't have said that," much like "Oh, I thought I deleted those." I've been there, in her position. One thing you never want to do is think because one will say some upfront things about themselves which isn't too good -- that they'll never hide/lie about anything. I've been on both sides of the situation with this. :)

You gave her a "promise ring"...was the "promise" just to "love" her until your insecurities and/or suspicions got the best of you?

I assume he got her a promise ring before the nude sexual galleries were found on her phone. If he gave her the promise ring after -- he's got the burden of adding self-inflicted drama to it.

You know...the people who proclaim their "love" to someone...then days/weeks/months later; they're back to a single status. It seems to always be the same folks doing it, too.

Well, many months I can understand -- but I get where you're coming from. What I can easily envision (not saying it Is this), is not a guy who repeats the love-quick-die-fast -- but more a guy who gets a really pretty gal that's really hard to come by... but she has her red flags, he ignores them... still runs with the emotions... but when the flags & concerns pile up, they catch up to him. Not saying this Is that, but this described situation has all the makings of that type of thing, IMO.

But hey, it could also be a gal who is sexually open and free when single, and that is legitimately concerning (as most gals wouldn't be a-okay with it either), but when Into a guy, she's 100% a-okay. I wouldn't bet on that, but I also wouldn't bet on her wheeling & dealing with other guys when in the honeymoon phase either. I just think he has to dig in with her and sort it out with Her. If they had a reality show, it could go either way. I'm not there, so he's gotta figure it out -- for his own sake in the very least.

As to the belief a woman who cant view her vagina must be out of shape, a reminder: Some women have large breasts which obscure views and cause bad backs.

Yes, large breasts can contribute to back pain, but they shouldn't obscure the view. Even with large breasts, a woman should easily be able to look at her vagina in a mirror while lying on her back on a bed. Natural breasts flatten out and pancake to the side.

well, she should ask him. If he was a gentleman, he got a close up view at least once. meanwhile, what did the OP do about the photos? I think she was just testing him by letting him look, and wanted to see if he could handle it. I had a girl who wanted to date me, take me to a gay bar to dance, to see if I would freak or not.

And I say that fat women who are out of shape and not disabled can see their vaginas in a mirror just like anyone else, you know if they want to, not everyone wants to check themselves out. Besides, why would they need to use a mirror, a phone or tablet will do. But there are other reasons why a person can't do that, you just like pointing out the unfit fat women can't get into that position. LOL Give it up.

daynadaze- "Give it up."She won't.Behave, forumslady, behave.I am SOOOO tempted right now, NOPE, got to behave.@gto mustang.......Well, now you've gone and done it.You HAVE to tell the end of the story.PLEASE provide some laughs to lighten the mood in this thread.I'm off to bed soon, can't wait to hear the story, should you decide to tell it. ;)

I'd be interested to know what those "other reasons" are, since I think I covered all the possibilities as to why a woman might have trouble doing that---excluding a man obscuring her view. Not wanting to check herself out is a separate issue entirely, and isn't what I was referring to when I disagreed with this post:

1) Seeing your own vagina in a mirror is difficult because if you squat over it then you block most of the light and its too dark, if you lay down you have to crank the hell out of your neck to see while trying to balance holding a mirror and spreading yourself with the other hand.

we decide to drive down to New Haven, city of Yale University. I figure she's a drinker, so I take my own Mustang, and her and her friend take her Mustang. I don't know the city well, we find different parking garages to park in and meet up at the front door of the bar. We got there early, before most of the crowd showed up. We're playing pool, waiting for the DJ to show, and find out the poor guy got "tuned up" by some homophobes, so no show that night. But I think just the fact I went thru with it was enough, so we decide to call it a night. Unfortunately, I can't figure out where I parked my car, so i'm walking about the city until 1am, figuring if I can't find the location i'm going to have to find a hotel that's open this early. but I did find my car finally.

now, I wasn't sure this lady was looking to date, b/c she had put on her profile that she was engaged and looking for friends. so a few weeks later, she's at my place, and asks me, "so what do you really think of me?" I take that phrase to mean, "i'm interested in you, what's taking so long?". so I tell her my qualms and she tells me she's been living w/ her guy for 10 years and they haven't discusses marriage for the last 5, so he's just a roommate and don't worry about it. We kiss, she's an excellent kisser, but its near midnight and I tell her i'm not looking to rush to bed--its been so many years, I can wait another night so I can take my time and enjoy the foreplay everyone else rushes over b/c they get it so often.

so, next day at work she emails me that I need to know she has genital warts. A guy worked with then said no biggie, my wife has that, if she takes the meds and warns you off when she feels an outbreak coming, its workable. so I email back what has her bf of 10 years done for protection, and she emails back that she's never told him. Well, how do you tell someone who's revealed a secret, in a way that makes them unafraid to ever tell that secret again? So I said that if we dated, i'd always be thinking that she kept a secret and if things ever got hinky, that would be in my mind. better we take a page from Ode to a Grecian Urn, and stay forever in that moment with the smokin' hot kiss, and think only the best of each other.

a year later, we bump into each other at a big car show, she's with her new guy. spots me, drops his hand and moves a little bit away to talk to me. I sure hope he either doesn't read body language, or figured it didn't matter b/c her shoes were under his bed and was blinded by whatever skills she had that I would forever miss out on.

meanwhile, I still think the selfie photos are harmless until further proof is found. and perhaps she let him see them to see if he could handle what she's all about. sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. the proposal for VS as a holiday greeting card isn't a bad idea. maybe a Thanksgiving card?

"Here's hoping your harvest is bountiful this season, and you feel full"

maybe to some, it will look like a cornucopia. prop up a good gourd next to it?

I should stop now, my temper is coming on with this one and the continued sexual double standards

Yup. There most certainly is a double standard but have you ever wondered why? Well it turns out that there is a direct correlation between the amount of pre-marital sex a woman has and her predisposition to divorce (the higher the number the higher her propensity for divorce). No such equivalent correlation exist for men. So yes, this is a very relevant piece of data for a man considering a woman for marriage or even LTD.

Yes it does, see above link if the man considers a LTR or marriage. If OP considers her exclusively for short-term fling and don’t value his health then no, this should not matter.

I don't know is it a double standard? A woman could come on here and say she found a bunch of dic pics on her boyfriends phone and some of these people might say some of the same stuff despite the change in gender.

The hive mind will always come to the fairer sexes’ defense. Time to pull away the curtain of illusions and misdirection’s and you will find that most of the virtues associated with the fairer sex are nothing but dogma with zero grounding in reality.