Jan 2013 Part 4: More noises, movements and more sleep?! Hmmmm

I leave B during the night until he's making persistent noise - I don't usually wake up til then anyway! He's always wide awake; he's never done the dream feed thing. I tickle under his neck or blow gently on his face to keep him awake...

He's still in with us but will be going in his own room once his blackout blind arrives and we've given it a good Hoover. Probably in the next week or so.

B is still mostly in 0-3 clothes . I've started putting him in 3-6 vests but his other things mostly look far too big on him still (he's 19weeks). Sainsburys stuff is bigger though, as is Asda.

Hubby has taken B out for a long walk so that I can get some of this marking done. Bailey seemed to think that 3 15min naps today was acceptable so he's been doing my head in and I've gotten absolutely nothing done. He's just point blank refused to sleep today.

Molly is in 6-9 month clothes now and so many of DD1's things got worn once or even not at all before she grew out of them! Just as well most of her stuff is second hand from her big sister. Most of her new stuff was gifted and I've done my best to get her in presents before he grows too big, but it's a struggle.

Naps are improving but we're still struggling at night. Molly will be in our room until she sleeps better as she won't get her own room but will be sharing with big sis .

Jabs on Friday-them this chunk will get weighed. I hope she's still on the chart .

1. I leave Dan a little but catch him before full blown crying as DS1 is too easy to wake at the moment.

2. Not in his own room yet, only because i'm still waiting for SILs cot to arrive and the travel cot is too wide. I think Bernie's way is good, thats what I did with DS1 - put him in his own room for the evening, dreamfeed in bed and keep him with me the rest of the night, til it was obvious he slept better in his cot than the crib. DS1 grew out of the crib by 4 months. D is 5 months now and grown out of the crib and in the travel cot.

3. I never wake him more than necessary to latch on and he feeds, winds and goes back down within about 15 minutes usually. On the odd occasion I've had to change a pooey nappy he's taken much longer to go back to sleep.

The 6-9m stuff is out of the loft and he's wearing some of it because he's too long in the legs for 3-6m things. Its all a mixture at the moment though.

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dd refusing to sleep anywhere but on me today, if I try to transfer her to the cot she wakes up and screams. I just tried some dentinox on her dummy and it is keeping her quiet so guessing teeth are the root of today's problems.

Yes I leave her to cry as sometimes she will go back to sleep and if I go to her she is very hard to settle without feeding.I'm evil I know but she just wants to use me as a dummy god I miss real dummy

Yes she is in own room, she makes more noise than DH and we need to sleep in the little time she actually allows. Luckily DD1 would sleep through a pneumatic drill going off in her eyehole so is not woken with our all too frequent trips across the landing.

She usually takes a good feed when she wakes in the night, but if she's using me as a dummy I try to put her back in the cot.

Lolli, we weaned DD1 early on our paeds advice, due to reflux and found it did help.

Took DD1 to a show today and DD2 stayed with grandma. Of course she was as good as gold and slept and drank her bottle without making a fuss. won't bloody drink it for DH to give me a break in the night though the madam

Oh. My. God. I don't want to jinx this, but after something someone said to me at baby massage today, I tried putting Molly down in her cot with a (worn) t-shirt of mine. She is still asleep after two hours, and lately the evenings have been really unsettled - she's only been sleeping on DH or me and waking after ten/fifteen minutes in her cot. I'm intrigued about how it will affect the night, but thought it might be useful to some other non-sleeping household too. I'm going to dream feed so that'll probably bugger it up, but worth a go!!

angie have heard something similar and when Ivy was about 4 weeks we were given a 'snuggly' for her which i slept with for a few nights so it smelt like milk me so it would hopefully comfort her. Tbh not certain itcmade a difference but she still has it at night.

Ivy is 5 months on sat. Bit scared to get the little chunk weighed as she is huge! Still have some of dd1 6-9 month stuff. The tops especially arw getting a bit tight at 3-6 months but as someone else said she will.be in a mix if sizes for now.

Dh has just announced his mate wants to go out of town for a birthday weekend this weekend would have been annoyed anyway but he only has tonight off this week so am basically on my own wirmth 4 dcs at half term! At least normally i get a bit of a break when the okder dc at school! Sometimes he seems like he thinks i'm just hanging out drinking tea all day. He always acts surprised with what needs doing when i'm (for examplw) in hospital with severe morning sickness and he has to do everything. Then he seems to forget again!!! Arrrrgggh!

Too grumpy today to even contribute. Had nearly three hours of unbroken sleep, achieved only by booting DP out to spare room and co sleeping. Five hours total. DP: "Well that was a good night wasn't it?"

Apple when is DH going to look after the 4DCs so you get a weekend away? Or stay in on an evening off work so you can have a couple of hours to yourself? It's only fair...

birdies good luck with the bottle. As lolli says, no harm in trying and it might work!

Thanks creepy. It wasn't the miracle cure I was after, but Molly spent the first part and the last part of the night in her own cot, asleep, which is a definite improvement. The blurry bit between about 2am and 4am she was in with us, but like I say, one step at a time...

Meringue hang in there. It's shit, but it can only get better (same question as to apple - when do you get your time off?)

My parents are here and have just gone out taking both girls with them to the market. Bliss. I'm due a nap...

Birdies what bottle are you using? DD2 will drink from the nuk bottle with the latex teat (not at night though)

Apples - DH's mostly live on a different planet called f'ing selfish land just say he can't go as you may have a weekend away booked in a mental institution Been swimming with DD2, DD2 was so excited to watch. Just popped into the farm to the soft play area, it's mental not one of my finest ideas

Sorry to hear there are still rubbish nights, but pleased to hear some of you are having improvements. Nancy is still doing a poo in the middle of the night, she's fast asleep when she does it but then wakes up when I change her. I feel too guilty to pretend I don't know. She's still not having a feed though so every cloud and all that.

Sorry to those having crap nights. Lots of to you all. DD is still waking and feeding every 3 hours, day and night. Just don't know how to get her to sleep for longer, bottles don't seem to make any difference to her. She's still very snotty and coughy so that doesn't help.

PS In case it helps anyone, I did read that around weeks 22-22 is when exclusively bf and room sharing babies tend to wake more in the night, the reason being they like the quiet feed times - and start to take more milk in that during the day.

So, the solution? Apparently to refuse to feed them between 3 and 7am by sitting up and rocking/jiggling them. And to do this until they start feeding more in the day. Hmm, that would go down well. And could do with actually having some sleep behind me before sitting up for 4 hours every night!!

PPS I do have good day sleepers though - have started to jiggle X back to sleep at lunchtime after she wakes after 30-40 mins from her nap and then she sleeps for much longer. It does work if anyone else is thinking of trying it.

So, both my little ladies are asleep, and i am watching a recording of Escape to the Country (still in my pjs!).

Hubby is away to holland again for work so just me and B til late Fri night. Mother in law is going to take B for an hour or so for the next two nights so that I can have peace to do some of my marking.

We have the tommee tippee bottles for when we use them. Never had any problems.

I'm up twice a night now instead of once. Just had a lovely nap with B on the sofa!

Tbf to dh he wouldn't mind if i wanted to go away over night etc but as i'm a bit of a homebody he knows its unlikely to happen. And he does generally do dinner when he gets up. I just don't think he realises how relentkess it can be!

Ivy off colour today. Didn't sleep so welllast night and is a bit miserabke now. Not sure if its anther tooth or shes coming down with something. She hasn't slept properly all day so she is also tired and cranky

birdiesi don't think i could do that! Hopefully last night was a blip [fingers crossed emoticon]

another bad night then dd cried all morning and refused to nap. I end up feeling impatient and cross with her for crying even though it is obviously not her fault, I feel like 5 months in I am already failing at this whole motherhood thing

she will now only nap on me or out in the buggy. I couldn't face the whole day sat on the sofa so had to leave her crying for a bit while I got up and dressed. as soon as we got out she went to sleep then I had to spend the next two hours wandering around town.