If a government was voted in by a majority of the electorate then they are the ligament government. If you go against the wishes of the people because you don't like something the government does that's hardly democratic. As long as the government doesn't set up a dictatorship or similar then they can be voted out at the next election.

so is it your opinion that a freely elected government can bypass or even violate the Constitution or the rights of the people and we are suppose to just allow it? just because the majority voted that way?

apparently you have no true knowledge of our country or our Constitution. might want to read some American history and what our founding fathers fought for and what they were willing to die for.

had your country won instead, they would have been prosecuted and put to death as traitors. we call them patriots.

BTW, our country was envisioned as a republic, not a democratic nation.

so is it your opinion that a freely elected government can bypass or even violate the Constitution or the rights of the people and we are suppose to just allow it? just because the majority voted that way?

If they did that would the people not vote them out at the next election. So basically people can set themselves up as militias and fight if they see it necessary to overthrow an elected government. A government has legitimacy because they are voted in by the people. What legitimacy has a bunch of people that get together and call themselves militia.

If they did that would the people not vote them out at the next election. So basically people can set themselves up as militias and fight if they see it necessary to over trough a elected government. A government has legitimacy because they are voted in by the people. What legitimacy has a bunch of people that get together ans call themselves militia.

you really need to do some reading into history and current affairs and gain some knowledge of the subjects you want to discuss.

you really seem to be in most of the discussions that are way over your head.

If a government was voted in by a majority of the electorate then they are the ligament government. If you go against the wishes of the people because you don't like something the government does that's hardly democratic. As long as the government doesn't set up a dictatorship or similar then they can be voted out at the next election.

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Originally Posted by manta

If they did that would the people not vote them out at the next election. So basically people can set themselves up as militias and fight if they see it necessary to over trough a elected government. A government has legitimacy because they are voted in by the people. What legitimacy has a bunch of people that get together ans call themselves militia.

The ONLY legitimate government is America is one that follows the rules and respects the rights layed out in the US Constitution.

Militias aren't going to physically fight the Government everytime an unconstitutional law is passed. If that were the case, Washington would have been ablaze years ago.
What they will do is defend their state should the governemnt become truely tyranical and try to forcibly take away our rights.

What you seem to be suggesting is that American need to just lay down and allow the government to do anything they want until the next election. That works out really well for you didn't it? Unlike in the UK, it is still legal to own AR-15s and handguns in America.

I thought the AR's were like the California models or otherwise neutered in some way?

I think you are misunderstanding the term "militia" as it is used here. There are some good ones and some groups that masquerade as good ones. I don't think civil war is the priority for the good ones.

When have militia being used in America in the last 100 years and why would they be needed now.

Yeah, if the ARs are single shot.

The handguns have to either be antique, black powder, non centerfire unless they meet a certain lenght requirement (a barrel no shorter than 30 cm or a total length of less than 60 cm), or rimfire. Plus, you have to have a license to own any of this.