I recommend trying, (please note it's spelled differently) EAU DE VETYVER from Le Galion.
Okay, it's discontinued and hard to find, but it does turn up now and again on ebay etc, and when it does it's not that expensive.
Please have a look at my thread ~ it's very earthy, dark, "beetrooty" and very sexy !

5th March 2013, 11:29 AM

perfaddict

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

Vetiver does not get darker/rootier than Sigilli's Athunis, moreso with the added cedar rather than conifers.

5th March 2013, 02:07 PM

sjg3839

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

L' Occitane Vetyver as you noted.

5th March 2013, 02:34 PM

LloydLlewellyn

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

I agree with the suggestion of Route du Vetiver.

5th March 2013, 02:41 PM

hednic

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

Fragonard Vetyver

5th March 2013, 02:46 PM

AlHamr

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

If it really is dark and rooty you're looking for, there's really only one.

Route du.

5th March 2013, 02:51 PM

Dernier_Cri

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marais

I'd try Vetiver Bourbon by Miller Harris. It's in the same ballpark as EN, dark and deep, but not so obviously synthetic. I wouldn't call it coniferous, though.

This is my favorite vetiver, also happens to be my favorite fragrance bar none. Not super dark and deep maybe but to me perfect. Turtle Vetiver Front and Profumum Fumidus are like straight vetivers and must tries for vetiver lovers. Route Du, so often mentioned is great but it's a dark berry bomb.

5th March 2013, 03:30 PM

PalmBeach

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

For straight up vetiver, doesn't get any better than the LesNez Turtle series. The only one available at this time is Turtle Back.

5th March 2013, 03:38 PM

Nosebud

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

Norne if you want coniferous, dark, and smoldering. Not really vetiver but you may like it.

But I think by Kilian Cruel Intentions is darker. That may be worth a try. A great fragrance IMO.

5th March 2013, 04:30 PM

JiveHippo

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

+1 MPG Route de Vetiver
ETRO Vetiver
Guerlain Vetiver Extreme

5th March 2013, 04:32 PM

ericrico

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

Yes, +1 on both MPG and Villoresi...and include Etro as well as one that I really like.

To the OP, I too really like Encre Noire, but also find the ISO E Super to be (at times) a bit much. Excellent fragrance for the price. Surprised you didn't find an affinity for Chanel Sycomore.

Good luck in your search - some good suggestions here. Personally, I like a wide range of vetiver and with Spring/Summer upon us, you may enjoy Commes des Garcons Vettiveru as a nice splashed on application. There is a nice base note that blends very well with the rooty vetiver...white cedar. Wonderful composition and great quality ingredients from CdG.

Cheers,

ericrico

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonyprince

I agree with the MPG recommendation and would add Lorenzo Villoresi Vetiver.

5th March 2013, 04:35 PM

juanderer

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

+1 on LesNez Turtle Vetiver Back.

5th March 2013, 04:42 PM

Richaki

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

+1 Route Du Vetiver MPG

5th March 2013, 05:59 PM

Diogenes65

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nosebud

Norne if you want coniferous, dark, and smoldering. Not really vetiver but you may like it.

Edit
I just layered Norne and Encre Noir. Try that s***

Norne is a pine, the "green" note is moss. has nothing whatsoever to do with Vetiver though...

5th March 2013, 06:17 PM

dreamer81

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

Wow so many great suggestions :) Thank you guys, keep them coming!

5th March 2013, 06:35 PM

ericrico

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

I will throw you a curveball, dreamer81...while I could suggest Vintage Guerlain Vetiver (and do!), take a different approach entirely.

I mentioned Comme des Garcons Vettiveru - a fantastic Eau de Cologne that is terrific in warm weather and has the white cedar note.

But, re-reading your original post, maybe you should also try Comme des Garcons 2 Man and Comme des Garcons Incense Series: Kyoto. CdG 2 Man has a great vetiver note with nice wood, "white smoke" incense - like a recently blown out candle and aldehydes. Kyoto may be closer to what you want even - fantastic notes of cypress oil, coffee, teak wood, patchouli, amber, cedar, incense and a nice dark vetiver.

So - taking your search into the realm of incense fragrances that, perhaps, incorporate dark, deep vetiver (maybe drier with the incense note). By the way, ISO E Super is in both...but I find more depth in the actual compositions' notes than Encre Noire, which is very heavy in ISO E Super.

Cheers,

ericrico

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamer81

Wow so many great suggestions :) Thank you guys, keep them coming!

5th March 2013, 06:45 PM

Darvant

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

Mona di Orio Vetyver, Etro Vetiter and Athunis Sigilli are some well appointed dark/rooty vetiver i particularly appreciate.

5th March 2013, 06:47 PM

dreamer81

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericrico

To the OP, I too really like Encre Noire, but also find the ISO E Super to be (at times) a bit much. Excellent fragrance for the price. Surprised you didn't find an affinity for Chanel Sycomore.

Ericrico I just retried my sample of Sycomore. I dont know if it is old or new version. It smells great but it is rather weak and very close to skin smelling. Its definitely more natural smelling than EN but at its price tag I would expect it to project better (atleast in first few hours).

On the other hand I just sprayed Vetiver Extraordinaire. I know that I loved opening when I tried it last time but was kinda dissapointed with drydown. Maybe I will like it more this time.

+1 on LesNez Turtle Vetiver Back (Had a sample of Front and it was rooty good stuff!) Sure Back is ace too.

5th March 2013, 09:35 PM

Nosebud

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamer81

So is there anything as dark as Encre Noire, which maybe adds some coniferous notes and has good longevity and zero sweetness?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diogenes65

Norne is a pine, the "green" note is moss. has nothing whatsoever to do with Vetiver though...

I never said Norne is Vetiver. I said the OP might like it..

5th March 2013, 10:46 PM

foetidus

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

MPG's vintage Route du Vetiver is the rooty-est one that I know. The Villoresi and Etro also bear looking at. Vintage Annick Goutal is also quite powerful although it tends more towards salt and iodine than rooty - and it has limited lasting power.

6th March 2013, 02:04 AM

Buzzlepuff

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

For earth and roots vetiver try:

Villoresi Vetiver - very earthy and rootyRamon Monegal Umbra - nice vetiver, not too dark, but very goodLes Nez Turtle Vetiver Front or Back - dark earthy vetivers done well. Breath of God by Gorilla Perfumes or Lush although not a true vetiver scent, is reasonably priced and quite earthy with a vetiver finish.

6th March 2013, 02:41 AM

nsamadi

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

I'd also recommend the vintage formulation of Route de Vetiver by MPG, but it's hard to come by these days. For something a little easier to source, you must try Fumidus by Profumum Roma.

Its not dark & rooty. Its 100% Indian Ocean vetiver. Comparing it or confusing it to South American vetiver would lead you to think its dark and rooty but Indian Ocean vetiver is like this by nature.

For a dark & rooty Indian Ocean vetiver, try these:

Fumidis Profumum
Chamen's party - Honore de Pres

Keep a fire extinguisher handy.

6th March 2013, 03:37 AM

thatmakesscents

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

Have you tried dark fragrances which have vetiver as an ingredient but it's not the main focus ?

I love vetiver too but I'm not into fresh at the moment. Montale's Dark Aoud has vetiver in it and it feeds my craving for a dark fragrance. Don't know if that is what I've been smelling but the scent is really winning me over.

6th March 2013, 10:40 AM

AlHamr

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

^^That's a really good suggestion, thinking laterally - Dark Aoud is definitely dark and definitely has vetiver, though the oud provides most of the darkness and the vetiver's function is more to do with warmth.

6th March 2013, 11:19 AM

Diogenes65

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

Quote:

Originally Posted by thatmakesscents

Have you tried dark fragrances which have vetiver as an ingredient but it's not the main focus ?

I love vetiver too but I'm not into fresh at the moment. Montale's Dark Aoud has vetiver in it and it feeds my craving for a dark fragrance. Don't know if that is what I've been smelling but the scent is really winning me over.

Profumum Fumidus is one of the scariest things I have ever put on my skin. Personally, I ended up scrubbing it off; but I was feeling very self-conscious because I was at work. Still I think this is worth sampling for the shock factor alone.

Route du Vetiver would be holy grail material for me, if it weren't for the laundry musk drydown...

6th March 2013, 06:43 PM

cosmopolit

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

+1 on LesNez Turtle Vetiver Back. I'm wearing this a lot lately.

14th May 2013, 09:35 PM

rynegne

Re: Dark rooty vetiver

I just received Turtle Vetiver Back yesterday, and I'm wearing it today. I'll add this as a big PLUS ONE for a fragrance to try if you're into rooty vetivers. As a side note, I just missed the boat on front....I wish I would have know about it a few months ago. I would have gladly purchased that, along with the whole series.