M 159 [General von Thoma]: Röhm said to
me quite openly at the time, "You just wait until we are at
the top -- the masses don't count -- we will
make things pleasant for ourselves all right and as far as
the rest is concerned, we will do it in the Russian
style."

M 159: personally I welcome it very much that Himmler
. . . because the end will come more swiftly, you
can be sure of that.

N 1680: I don't know sir, whether you are not wrong
there.

M 159: You will see.

N 1680: because he . . . Ruthlessly --

M 159: That doesn't matter. But when you know just
the attitude of the country . . . And how it is outside, you
will see that when once they are able to catch Himmler, he
will be shot on the spot. He's a man I would expose to the
worst tortures with the greatest of pleasure, because he has
killed not hundreds of thousands but millions in the most
ruthless manner. His stupidity is exceeded only by his
hate.