White House Concedes Acosta Lawsuit, Will Permit Him to Keep Pass;But Establishes Rules Whose Violation Will Result in Reporters Being Stripped of Their Passes in the Future

Last week, Byron York wrote that the media's stance would result in written rules for "journalist" behavior:

There is no formal, written good behavior requirement for WH hard pass holders. Yet everyone understands they should act professionally. Result of all this could be written code, enforced by...who? Do reporters want that? 2/4

The Hawaiian judge ruled that there was a due process violation because, I guess, there were no formally announced rules for "journalist" behavior.

Well, now there are, and I imagine this list of rules will grow to include each new bout of misbehavior from "journalists," especially the queeney Drama Volcano Jim Acosta.

And then, when passes are stripped, the White House can point to previously-announced rules and defend their decision as being in comportment with due process.

One thing about these rules: They do not state that a reporter cannot put his hands upon an intern who is trying to retrieve the microphone. The Department of Justice cucked out about pointing out that Jim Acosta put his hand on the intern's arm to push it away. By not including this as a rule, the White House continues the cuck-out, and implicitly concedes Jim Accoster's claim that he did not do what it is self-evident from the videotape that he did in fact do.

Why?

I guess a lot of DOJ types don't want to deal in actual facts. They just want to protect #TheResistance.

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Judge Kelly basically told White House, you have to give him another chance(Acosta) but if he grandstands, you can kick him out.Disgusting how Faux News defended the guy who pushed that female intern.

Posted by: Jonah at November 19, 2018 06:54 PM (HrSJb)

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"Ridiculous. I've NEVER see a White House need to spell out 'rules' with a threat to yank credentials. This is PURE authoritarianism folks"

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HAHAHAHAHAH !

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2018 06:55 PM (bUjCl)

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It took this long to have established rules ???
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2018 06:53 PM (bUjCl)

To be fair, once upon a time, this was a country where almost everyone understood there were some basic rules for behaviour without having a judge weigh in!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at November 19, 2018 06:55 PM (f3oO4)

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Maybe the WH had to spell out rules because the MSM is a bunch of self-entitled uncouth jackals.

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To be fair, once upon a time, this was a country where almost everyone understood there were some basic rules for behaviour without having a judge weigh in!
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at November 19, 2018 06:55 PM (f3oO4)

good times, good times...now gone.sad.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2018 06:56 PM (bUjCl)

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I wouldn't let them hold the mic. And I'd hold it low so they have to bend over.

Posted by: x at November 19, 2018 06:56 PM (nFwvY)

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"PURE authoritarianism". Like the rules 99% of us have had to obey when we were working. That is rich.

The problem is visible to everyone except the reporters. They have destroyed their own credibility as no one else possibly could, and they are in complete denial about that. So they HAVE to yell "Hitler" when anyone points it out.

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Sheesh, if the presstitutes would have enforced simple rules of civility on Jimmy A., none of this would have been necessary. He makes them all look bad, although he admittedly gives them fodder for their stories.

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Yeah, rules are authoritarian. I guess Brody Levesque would prefer press conferences where the reporters who shout the loudest and are the most physically intimidating get to hog the mike and ask all the questions they want.

Posted by: rickl at November 19, 2018 06:59 PM (sdi6R)

388 Judge Kelly basically told White House, you have to give him another chance(Acosta) but if he grandstands, you can kick him out.
Disgusting how Faux News defended the guy who pushed that female intern.
Posted by: Jonah at November 19, 2018 06:54 PM (HrSJb)

That is the real proof of how much the media is in denial. They simply will not face the fact they are in a crisis of their own making. And so long as that continues, they will never pull out of the tailspin.

It IS true that the press faces an existential threat. But it is false to place the source of that threat anywhere but within the media themselves.

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Bottom line, Trump should have ignored the injunction and continue to ban Acosta, anything less is a loss . He would have been vindicated by the SC. ( I assume that's where it would have ended up)
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp
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Exactly

I could see the SC saying it wasn't any of their damn business anyway.

I guess if the Pentagon doesn't let me in, I have to have due process exercised for why they aren't letting me sit on on meetings with Generals?

Posted by: Blago at November 19, 2018 06:59 PM (UfkIY)

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'Sorry,' the White House should say, 'We thought Acosta could behave like a mature adult without having to have it written out for him.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 19, 2018 07:00 PM (oVJmc)

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I don't see a must-wear-pants clause in them rules. WH press conference lottery now!

Posted by: Hands at November 19, 2018 07:00 PM (786Ro)

42Ahoy there! This would never happen on-board the Raging Queen! My passengers and crew RESPECT me!

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Seriously, this is liberalism in a nutshell. We have traditions and expected behaviors that have heretofore been accepted and enforced by social pressure. Then Liberals come along and just push and push because, No controlling legal authority.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 19, 2018 07:01 PM (yQpMk)

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Dammit people, I had a great comment on the ass end of that last thread. I should drag it up here.

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Trump has bigger priorities than Acosta at this point.Rumor from WSJ bloggers, is they are going to look into clamping down on social Media for censorship. To do that, you have to make them a utility.I hate Big Brother, but that really hurt us in the lections

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just saying, DOJ, there's a lot of hungry lawyers out there. I'm sure you could find a conservative lawyer or two at each level of experience. The trump DOJ should, indeed, begin a mentoring or lateral program for lawyers with the right temperament.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at November 19, 2018 07:02 PM (7J5t2)

Give him credit for vocabulary. Most four-year-olds can only say, "I hate you!"

Posted by: t-bird at November 19, 2018 07:03 PM (C78No)

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Trump has bigger priorities than Acosta at this point.
Rumor from WSJ bloggers, is they are going to look into clamping down on social Media for censorship. To do that, you have to make them a utility.
I hate Big Brother, but that really hurt us in the lections
Posted by: Jonah

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If Trump doesn't bust up the tech monopolies we're fucked.

It would be a winning issue politically as well.

I'm sorry TruCons, but our political freedom to communicate is far more important than Chamber of Commerce regulation concerns.

Posted by: Blago at November 19, 2018 07:03 PM (UfkIY)

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When I fight authority,authority always wins
John "Cougar" Mellencamp

And this is why I do NOT subscribe to the hair on fire doom and gloom club. There are more of us than there are them. We told them, give us what we want. They said sure sure you can have oblabo care repeal, we will stop the illegal alien invasion, just give us more. We gave them more. What did they do? They stabbed us repeatedly. Vote republican! We're gonna run nothing but rinos who worship the state and suck the CoC off on the floor of the senate. We said stop that shit and give us what we want.
Did they listen? Fuck no.
So we found our guy. A blustery, big mouth with orange hair. Donald fucking Trump. They said NOOOO! You cant have that guy! We said hold our beer and watch this shit.
Now we have President Trump. They said we understand now. Give us bigger majorities and we can give you what you want.
Then those backstabbing motherfuckers pushed MORE GODDAMN RINOS.
And we said naw, bro, we can live without the House if it cleans out the rino bastards.
Come 2020, They will give us what we want or we will let the democrats burn the fucking thing to the ground.
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 19, 2018 06:53 PM (myjNJ)

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"51 Seriously, this is liberalism in a nutshell. We have traditions and expected behaviors that have heretofore been accepted and enforced by social pressure. Then Liberals come along and just push and push because, No controlling legal authority.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 19, 2018 07:01 PM (yQpMk) "

And they have taken over enough of the society / culture that there is no social pressure to restrain them, either.
Such social pressure as there is, is pushing for more of this and even worse behavior.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 19, 2018 07:06 PM (tSXzq)

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I don't get how the Acosta side got away with claiming he didn't knock the intern's arm. I saw the video.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2018 07:07 PM (6VrXf)

93The trump DOJ should, indeed, begin a mentoring or lateral program for lawyers with the right temperament.
Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at November 19, 2018 07:02 PM (7J5t2)

I would have gotten right on that, but I decided to wait until after my nap, and never got around to it!!

When I tee pee the house of some "musician" douchebag who tells his kids they're too good to hang with me and my friends on Tybee Island, it stays tee-pee'd.

Posted by: 12 year old D'oh Boy at November 19, 2018 07:07 PM (ptqGC)

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Has everyone chosen their places on the "Trump Should've" scoreboard?

Posted by: DaveA at November 19, 2018 07:07 PM (FhXTo)

96I don't get how the Acosta side got away with claiming he didn't knock the intern's arm. I saw the video.

Facts mean nothing.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 19, 2018 07:07 PM (yQpMk)

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The best way to handle acosta, is not to ban him, but just end the presser when he acts up. That simple. Sarah H also needs to play the female card once in awhile
Posted by: Jonah at November 19, 2018 07:02 PM (HrSJb)

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PDT has already said that if Acosta or anyone else keeps this shit up, the presser will be ended.

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87 I still don't know how YouTube is allowed to post copyright material and put the burden on the owner to request it not be posted.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 19, 2018 07:05 PM (2DOZq)

Do you even digital millennium copyright act, brah?

In essence, the alternative would be to hold websites responsible for the behavior of their viewers (ie: ace would be civilly liable if some asshole troll was posting nonsense on here).

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Once again, we see how literally every leftist psychosis boils down to, "I HATE you DAD!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 19, 2018 07:07 PM (BRvh1)

102And this is why I do NOT subscribe to the hair on fire doom and gloom club. There are more of us than there are them. We told them, give us what we want. They said sure sure you can have oblabo care repeal, we will stop the illegal alien invasion, just give us more. We gave them more. What did they do? They stabbed us repeatedly. Vote republican! We're gonna run nothing but rinos who worship the state and suck the CoC off on the floor of the senate. We said stop that shit and give us what we want.
Did they listen? Fuck no.
So we found our guy. A blustery, big mouth with orange hair. Donald fucking Trump. They said NOOOO! You cant have that guy! We said hold our beer and watch this shit.
Now we have President Trump. They said we understand now. Give us bigger majorities and we can give you what you want.
Then those backstabbing motherfuckers pushed MORE GODDAMN RINOS.
And we said naw, bro, we can live without the House if it cleans out the rino bastards.
Come 2020, They will give us what we want or we will let the democrats burn the fucking thing to the ground.
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 19, 2018 06:53 PM (myjNJ)

Any reporter thrown out and the next judge will say he has to be judged by a jury of peers to be valid.

It won't stop which is why Trump should have told the judge he can personally try and escort Acosta through Secret Service.

Posted by: Blago at November 19, 2018 07:08 PM (UfkIY)

104I haven't read the briefs or opinion, but I have to imagine that some flavor of administrative law applied, and its a real PITA.

This is what I don't understand. How is this a subject of administrative law? It's not a courtroom. It would be like some kid in the lunch line suing because they insisted on giving him spinach with his tater tots.

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2018 07:08 PM (T6t7i)

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would have gotten right on that, but I decided to wait until after my nap, and never got around to it!!

Brody Levesque, Chief Political Correspondent: Brody is an experienced veteran journalist and editor as well as a freelance writer. He has been working in the online media industry since 2003, and spent the previous twenty-two years as a wire service reporter. From 2009 until 2015 Brody was the Washington Bureau Chief of LGBTQ Nation Magazine, a web based news media for the LGBTQI community. He also produces RATED LGBT RADIO, a weekly radio chat show based in Los Angeles.

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This is what I don't understand. How is this a subject of administrative law? It's not a courtroom. It would be like some kid in the lunch line suing because they insisted on giving him spinach with his tater tots.
Posted by: pep at November 19, 2018 07:08 PM (T6t7i)

I imagine the court viewed this as an administrative taking without due process.

...Which is a pretty reasonable analogy.

And most administrative law doesn't happen anywhere near a court room.

A better analogy would be a new EPA rule that was passed without the comment period or any procedural due process that fucks over a bunch of business owners.

On the flip side, Trump has the Chevron doctrine on his side (for now) which basically says that courts won't second guess agencies (or the white house, in this situation) if their interpretation of the rules or law is "reasonable."

Trump could have pushed this issue on the "political question" side of things and fought it all the way to SCOTUS I guess, but it's not really worth it just to fuck with Acosta.

150A better analogy would be a new EPA rule that was passed without the
comment period or any procedural due process that fucks over a bunch of
business owners.

I get your point, but this isn't a governmentally-imposed function like an EPA rule. This is all ad hoc and informal. Thus, there can be no expectations or rules.

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2018 07:16 PM (T6t7i)

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isn't there a kind of microphone that can be pointed from a few feet away at the reporter asking the question and can then be moved to point to another reporter?

nah, probably violates the First, Fifth, Nineteenth and Eleventysecond Amendment.and Fox News is reporting a shooting at a hospital in - wait for it! - Chicagoalso more razor wire up at the border. Clearly violates the amendment that says "everyone welcome!!"

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Any reporter who doesn't follow the rules spends a night in the box.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2018 07:19 PM (/tuJf)

1733 It took this long to have established rules ???
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2018 06:53 PM (bUjCl)

Because it's common sense and common courtesy to the person holding the press conference as well as your fellow journalists. It took Trump to unhinge these pathetic loons so much that their hatred of him has caused them to drop all pretense of civility.

Posted by: buzzion at November 19, 2018 07:19 PM (WaxcS)

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All good Party members play a part in The Resistance. Reporters do their part by being contentious, rude, and boorish. This signals to the masses that The Orange Man is not legitimate.

Reporters must not, under any circumstances, suggest to the masses that The Orange Man is worthy of respect.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at November 19, 2018 07:20 PM (2xR5z)

175Ridiculous. I've NEVER see a White House need to spell out 'rules' with a threat to yank credentials. This is PURE authoritarianism folks

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Ridiculous. I've NEVER see a White House need to spell out 'rules' with a threat to yank credentials. This is PURE authoritarianism folks:
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Does this dumb-ass not get that the WH HAD to spell out the rules because of the lawsuit that drama queen Acosta filed against it?

If this dimwit is upset that the common-sense rules of decent behavior had to be spelled out, he should be criticizing Acosta's diva behavior that made it necessary for the Trump administration to state the obvious.

If the press doesn't want to be treated like misbehaving 5-year olds, they should stop acting like misbehaving 5-year olds.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 19, 2018 07:21 PM (fqUgw)

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If Jim Acosta wasn't a dripping clapped up dickhole, none of this would be necessary.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 19, 2018 07:21 PM (NWiLs)

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Crenshaw. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. That man has a future in politics. Posted by: pep at November 19, 2018 07:18 PM (T6t7i)

President.

Posted by: Jane D'ohImagine how badass it would be to have a President with an eyepatch.

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180 I'll repeat: Obama used to keep the press whores in their place by telling them, "You're in MY house." And they'd whimper and nod and agree with him.

And then blow enough smoke up his ass to cure a ham.

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at November 19, 2018 07:24 PM (LOq4H)

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Didn't Fox have a D+24 generic ballot once or something like that?
Posted by: Surfperch at November 19, 2018 07:23 PM (hlVcQ)

Where ? In Texas ?? Kidding.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2018 07:24 PM (bUjCl)

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can we rig the mic with an electric shock and give Trump the button?

Posted by: buzsaw90 at November 19, 2018 07:24 PM (NhgkA)

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Imagine how badass it would be to have a President with an eyepatch.
Posted by: pep at November 19, 2018 07:21 PM (T6t7i)
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Imagine Crenshaw delivering a State of the Union Address wearing a Nehru jacket, sitting in a papasan chair, stroking a Persian cat.

I hope somebody in the SS took it upon themself to show her how to break a finger or two just in case another "journalist" does that to her again.Watching Accost-her writhing on the floor in pain while looking at a few fingers in a brand new position would be PPV-worthy.

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>>Imagine how badass it would be to have a President with an eyepatch.

Arrr, and a hook for a hand. 'Tis long overdue.

Posted by: Orangebeard at November 19, 2018 07:26 PM (kc+Bd)

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I think PDT probably spent about 10 minutes thinking about Acosta as much as Acosta would like to think otherwise. Maybe less than 10 minutes because in the grand scheme of things how Acosta feels is pretty low on his list of concerns. I hope every time he asks a question SHS will ask him if he can behave himself before she answers.

Posted by: Tuna at November 19, 2018 07:26 PM (jm1YL)

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Who's Brody Levesque and what part of "CNN suing and creating this" doesn't he undertand?

227...Imagine how badass it would be to have a President with an eyepatch.

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2018 07:21 PM (T6t7i)

Pffft. The real status in that hoped-for ascension, is imagine a President with more confirmed kills than Andrew Jackson dared ever dream of.

Navy Seal.

I'd have the Budweiser affixed to the podium in the White House Press Room, just to remind the presstitutes of that simple, but highly significant fact.

Presstitutes would be wise to heed this advisory: That stud up there behind the podium, the one wearing that eyepatch can use that eyepatch fifteen different ways to kill you dead, and nine of those include great suffering.

Bet the baying and clamor to get to ask the next question would be greatly subdued, to say the least.

And follow up questions would look more like Oliver Twist, asking for "more, please, sir?"

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at November 19, 2018 07:31 PM (eAshZ)

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Crenshaw. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. That man has a future in politics.
Posted by: pep at November 19, 2018 07:18 PM (T6t7i)

President.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2018 07:19 PM (ptqGC)

The last time a Representative went straight to the Presidency was nearly 175 years ago. He needs to do something else in between to broaden his appeal and get his name recognition up (if he turns out to be a Conservative).

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If Crenshaw can talk like a pirate all the time he'll win in a landslide.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2018 07:32 PM (/tuJf)

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The last time a Representative went straight to the Presidency was nearly 175 years ago. He needs to do something else in between to broaden his appeal and get his name recognition up (if he turns out to be a Conservative).
Posted by: Smoked Surfperch at November 19, 2018 07:32 PM (hlVcQ)
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Cane Acosta on live t.v.

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Trump should force them to ask the questions in a Cockney accent and call him Guvn'r.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 19, 2018 07:35 PM (yQpMk)

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Crenshaw. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. That man has a future in politics.
Posted by: pep at November 19, 2018 07:18 PM (T6t7i)

President.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2018 07:19 PM (ptqGC)

The last time a Representative went straight to the Presidency was nearly 175 years ago. He needs to do something else in between to broaden his appeal and get his name recognition up (if he turns out to be a Conservative).
Posted by: Smoked Surfperch at November 19, 2018 07:32 PM (hlVcQ)

Now that I think about it, he would probably make a good Secretary of Defense.

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281 253 He needs to do something else in between to broaden his appeal and get his name recognition up (if he turns out to be a Conservative).

Something that is NOT Senator.
Posted by: t-bird at November 19, 2018 07:34 PM (Z1eux)

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Dancing with the Stars?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 19, 2018 07:41 PM (NhgkA)

285The last time a Representative went straight to
the Presidency was nearly 175 years ago. He needs to do something else
in between to broaden his appeal and get his name recognition up (if he
turns out to be a Conservative).

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Being a local candidate in the area, I paid a lot of attention to the Crenshaw campaign as it rolled along.

Some observations.

Crenshaw might be one of the most intelligent people in this, or any Congress.

He's very quick. I've yet to see a journalist get anywhere near snagging him in a rhetorical trap.

On the issues, he has a vast command of the concepts, facts, arguments and counter-arguments. And while not being paralyzed by minutia (think: Jimmy Carter), he KNOWS the minutia, and makes it dance to his tune.

He's very personable, in every setting, with every body. That's a genuine humility he has there. It's not an act.

Being a SEAL, he has a work ethic which may only be matched by Trump himself.

And... he is absolutely ON the TRUMP TEAM. Ran on it, spoke on it, campaigned on it.

He's got a value far higher than being a Congressman. But it's a good place in the next two years, to let the Nation get to see him there, as we down here in Texas have seen him, here.

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[i[One thing about these rules: They do not state that a reporter cannot
put his hands upon an intern who is trying to retrieve the microphone.

Haven't been following the comments, so maybe this point has already been made, but putting hands on an intern trying to retrieve the microphone is (already) a criminal battery (though probably only a misdemeanor). And - I would argue - even using physical force to resist an intern who is performing her job, would also constitute an unlawful, forceful act.

No one argued this during the incidental litigation, but I have a hunch that's why it is omitted from the new Code of Conduct . . . ?

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I would have also added that they are there to ask QUESTIONS, not lecture.

And if, in the mind of the President or whoever is taking question, the questioner is either lecturing, or acting rudely, then they can be cut off, and must immediately relinquish the microphone, and leave the premises.

Its like the signs that say the Management reserves the right to deny service.

Posted by: Don Q. at November 19, 2018 07:52 PM (NgKpN)

328...I know he's on my side but if I was a debate opponent , I would definitely have to respond to one of his answers with 'that's bold talk for a one eyed fat man' .

Posted by: Kempfinger at November 19, 2018 07:48 PM (2DOZq)

FILL YER HAND, YOU SON OF A BITCH!

*shooting starts*

Damn, that movie still does it, even now.

Oh, sorry Kemp.... didn't mean for you to get quite so perforated there. No hard feelings!

Guy Whines on Twitter That Chipolte Wouldn't Serve Him Until He Proved He Could Pay, Citing Previous Dine-and-Dash Incidents; Guy Claims It's "Racism;" Manager Fired; But Previous Tweets By This Guy Brag About Dining and Dashing

That suggests that she refused service because they were black, and not, as she says, and Mahud Ali's twitter timeline seems to confirm, that ordering food and then stiffing Chipotle for the check was a fun past-time for him.

Even Not Binary Ben has a problem with this:

Your headline is garbage. The men apparently had a history of dining and dashing. Now you've slandered this woman for no reason. https://t.co/MqijxeW7td

John Katshit's Top Advisor John Weaver: Brian Kemp is a Cheating Hack and Stacey Adams is the Legitimate Governor of Georgia

This hack @BrianKempGA is the next "governor*" of Georgia. But he cheated & undermined democracy every step of the way. @staceyabrams should be governor, but isn't due to actions that can't be tolerated. She has a bright future. We need a new, enforceable Voting Rights Act. Now!

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katshit should take his comedy tour on the road. the prelude every evening could be watching that phucktard eat chicken while talking about daddy mailman. thanks, ohio. and somebody from ohio took out dimebag darrel. now, that's a fucked up state.

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a possible answer for all this hate and crazy talk, is some of these grifters would be going to prison if their protective FBI was ever run by someone not on board with DeepState globalism. (or their kompromat files would be released, revealing their ???)

This would seem to be true for Rosie/Mueller ... who were deeply involved in Hillary's crimes ... so like cornered wild animals, they have nothing to lose by going katshit crazy with the (seemingly) turncoat lies.

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GOPe response to not getting what they want: "Waaaah! I'm LEAVING the party, you guys! Serious."

Trump's response to not getting what he wants: "What the fuck are all these nerds doing in MY party?"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 19, 2018 06:17 PM (BRvh1)

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51 Step one of the new voting rights act. Polls close at their set time and cannot remain open longer.

Step 2: Election Day = National Holiday and since everyone can get to the polls, no mail in, no provisional, no alternatives, no out of state voting.
Posted by: Adriane the Free Verse Poetry Critic ... at November 19, 2018 06:13 PM (AoK0a)
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All ballot-creating and collecting authorities must create an electronic version of the ballot that is transmitted in a standard format to the military; the military holds elections on the same day as the US, or maybe the day before, and sends those results directly back to the local jurisdiction to be counted and included.

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kristolmeth and his band of commies are a perfect example of untreated syphillis rotting the brain. the butt stuff is strong with these cucks.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 19, 2018 06:18 PM (KP5rU)

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McRaven is a Democrat. Why would he run as a Republican? Kristol is a dumbass.

But it was unnecessary for Trump to bring up McRaven. He just can't let anything go even after he prevails. Hopefully this will blow over too. I'm glad and surprised though that the RNC stepped up and sided with Trump . Maybe they have info McRaven may be a potential Dem opponent in 2020.

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GA Governor is a done deal, libtards. Your attempt at theft was unsuccessful this time. Abrams even got some insane Fed judge to order polls specifically around Atl. Black colleges to remain open past legal closing time by 3 hours and Abrams' cheating ass still couldn't pull it off. See ya in 2020.

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT STARTS OUT SOUNDING LIKE "ICE" BUT IT'S REALLY "ASS" SO IT MAKES YOU DO A DOUBLE TAKE. ALSO BECAUSE THE PERSON IS EVEN MORE USELESS AND AN ASSHOLE AND THEIR BREATH SMELLS LIKE TAINT

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at November 19, 2018 06:19 PM (HtLSE)

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What a wanking bunch of weak sisters these jerks are. Mewling quim does not suffice as sufficient descriptor of these back stabbing kapos.

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Max Book is like that guy who breaks up with you, and you say okay, bye.When he gets home, he calls you again to say he's really going to break up with you, okay?Fine, right, you say.

And this time I really --You hang up.

Posted by: PJ at November 19, 2018 06:19 PM (qlTN9)

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Ever since Soviet Georgia was incorporated into the Transcaucasian Federation in '22, it's been a shithole. And racist!

Posted by: Fritz at November 19, 2018 06:19 PM (Z9C5C)

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>>But it was unnecessary for Trump to bring up McRaven. He just can't let anything go even after he prevails. Hopefully this will blow over too. I'm glad and surprised though that the RNC stepped up and sided with Trump . Maybe they have info McRaven may be a potential Dem opponent in 2020

Trump didn't bring him up, Wallace did. But I do agree that Trump went to far. He could have just pointed out that McRaven is a Hillary/Obama supporter and left it at that.

If there are a small gaggle of fingerling pud-pullers who try to challenge Trump in a primary, he runs a scorched earth (and basically free) social media campaign to get all sane R voters to the polls for primary day. "Winning is a foregone conclusion, but fukkit, let's go for the record, guys! Together! We can do it!"

... and then gather more votes than any primary candidate for any party in the history of everything, ever.

Just as a gigantic, tax-free fuck you to the Democrats and the Quisling branch of GOP-that-was.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 19, 2018 06:21 PM (BRvh1)

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Yet again I thank the lord above Senator John McVain is no longer with us.

There WILL be "Republican" primary debates, because Fake News will insist on it and set it all up.

So, imagine a bunch of Jerkoffs such as Katshit and Flake on a stage "debating" each other. And by debating, I mean they'll all be agreeing with each other on how Orange Man Bad, with the Fake News moderators concurring.

Then, if they do talk about policies, they'll be echoing the Democrats because they are Democrats.

116Abrams even got some insane Fed judge to order polls specifically around Atl. Black colleges to remain open past legal closing time by 3 hours and Abrams' cheating ass still couldn't pull it off. See ya in 2020.
Posted by: Calm Mentor

It won't be fair until their votes are counted five thirds.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2018 06:26 PM (aKsyK)

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Nah. It's crap. The master class never seeks to annihilate the slave class. Their lifestyle depends on keeping those people alive and working.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 19, 2018 06:25 PM (AzW6q)

Someone's been reading their Camus....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 19, 2018 06:26 PM (BRvh1)

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As long as I don't have to suck your dick or allow you to put yours in my butthole.
Posted by: JAS at November 19, 2018 06:22 PM (3HNOQ)

The coffee, catholics, and cucks meeting!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 19, 2018 06:26 PM (JFO2v)

119
so, when do we start shooting, because this bullshit can't go on forever without exceeding max capacity?

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 19, 2018 06:26 PM (Dagiw)

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Nah. It's crap. The master class never seeks to annihilate the slave class. Their lifestyle depends on keeping those people alive and working.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 19, 2018 06:25 PM (AzW6q)

What is it with all these people who just declare something to be true with no proof and nothing at all to back up their claims? They sound like little children just making shit up.

Like UCF self-declaring themselves the 2017 National Champions because they went undefeated. They have that ridiculously wrong self-award up inside their stadium. I scoured the NCAA site to find an email address for the president to ask if I had missed the game where they beat My Beloved Crimson Tide.Naturally, you can't get ahold of him that way.WTF? Have all these people lost their minds?

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When our side can't trust elections and the other side will cheat or lie or won't accept election results what keeps the civil war from going hot? Heap on calls for gun confiscation or death. Why should our side not go hot eventually? I can see a cold civil war turning hot. I pray it never comes to that.

Wait until they vote some bill on transgender kindergarden marriage and it does even get taken up in senate and Trumps points out kgers really should not be having sex. They will have a sesame street on best lube anal sex for kgers.

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 19, 2018 06:37 PM (JFO2v)

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Is Amanda Carpenter still totally not hooking while on the road for political fundraisers and events?

165
Feinstein and Camel Toe Harris, want Trump to make a deal with them on 9th Circuit Judges. They want 2 Dems for 2 Republicans=====When Dems ask for a deal it means they ain't got shit, otherwise they just steamroll ahead with what they want to do.

Posted by: davidt at November 19, 2018 06:38 PM (kc+Bd)

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Had a voice mail on the work # from "Beaver Fal" I was worried it might be NSFW thanks to too much time at the HQ, but it was just student loan spam.

Posted by: paleRider at November 19, 2018 06:38 PM (eASYU)

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I'm hoping the 2018 elections were a "midterm effect" and not the new normal.

A candidate like Abrams would have lost by 10 points four years ago in Georgia.
Posted by: Blago at November 19, 2018 06:31 PM (UfkIY)

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True, but Kemp did himself no favors by running a barely visible, shitty campaign. It should never have been that close.

And the emperor looked down at his dick; limp, flaccid, small, old, and tired. But I have a proud dick! Long and strong! Impaler of maidens! But it was one of those so small it looked like a big clit! Alas, he was a fake!

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****** 165 Feinstein and Camel Toe Harris, want Trump to make a deal with them on 9th Circuit Judges. They want 2 Dems for 2 Republicans=====When Dems ask for a deal it means they ain't got shit, otherwise they just steamroll ahead with what they want to do.

Posted by: davidt

A public admission that they tried to trample the due process rights of an innocent mandonors, at the direction of their donors.Baseline for negotiations. No apology, no admissions? I guess there's nothing to talk about, kids.

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Democrats' idea of a "deal" is to ask for a lot and give nothing in return, I suppose.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 19, 2018 06:40 PM (7vjfd)

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So it's like a wife

Posted by: S Tyler at November 19, 2018 06:46 PM (NhgkA)

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Kemp did himself no favors by running a barely visible, shitty campaign.

205He was a decent governor at the start of his terms.
Posted by: Tuna at November 19, 2018 06:08 PM (jm1YL)

Not really; he started doing his pearly gates spiel to thwart the GOP legislature's efforts to rein in spending almost from the get go. Whatever's been fucking him up has been doing so for a long time.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 19, 2018 06:47 PM (y7DUB)

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What they are trying to do is shame and berate Kemp, so he doesn't investigate the massive vote fraud that kept Abrams close. He shouldn't take the bait. There are a lot of democrat irregularities in certain counties that need to be investigated before the next election.

Not 100% but the style guide ( don't have one handy ) may call for "...in the history of things happening" as contributed by the lovely and talented Mrs Rev grammie winger.
Posted by: teej at November 19, 2018 06:49 PM (QfSXK)

Heh, i like. it. But that's a locution of mine i've been using all my life, since before I ever even knew there was a "comments" link.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 19, 2018 06:51 PM (BRvh1)

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There are lots of #Nevers who should just call themselves Democrats and get over it.

But democrat means communist now.

Posted by: Off the reservation at November 19, 2018 06:51 PM (vWMNq)

225Wait until they vote some bill on transgender kindergarden marriage and it does even get taken up in senate and Trumps points out kgers really should not be having sex. They will have a sesame street on best lube anal sex for kgers.

LMAO, you don't get this content anywhere else

Posted by: Max Power at November 19, 2018 06:51 PM (QCc6B)

226213 Come on let's be honest here, we all know that when they say "democracy failed", what they mean is "democracy failed to deliver us the political power we wanted".
Posted by: lurker (the other one) at November 19, 2018 06:49 PM (eAshZ)

Democrats only believe in "democracy" in the sense of "one man, one vote, one time".

I don't know I think the left is basically nuts. I know some men who are condescending and have a sense of entitlement, not because they're men but because they likely have Nacisssitic Personality Disorder. NPD affects both men and women.

And this is why I do NOT subscribe to the hair on fire doom and gloom club. There are more of us than there are them. We told them, give us what we want. They said sure sure you can have oblabo care repeal, we will stop the illegal alien invasion, just give us more. We gave them more. What did they do? They stabbed us repeatedly. Vote republican! We're gonna run nothing but rinos who worship the state and suck the CoC off on the floor of the senate. We said stop that shit and give us what we want.
Did they listen? Fuck no.
So we found our guy. A blustery, big mouth with orange hair. Donald fucking Trump. They said NOOOO! You cant have that guy! We said hold our beer and watch this shit.
Now we have President Trump. They said we understand now. Give us bigger majorities and we can give you what you want.
Then those backstabbing motherfuckers pushed MORE GODDAMN RINOS.
And we said naw, bro, we can live without the House if it cleans out the rino bastards.
Come 2020, They will give us what we want or we will let the democrats burn the fucking thing to the ground.

235If you've not seen the documentary Clear, I highly recommend it. Scientologists are some whacked people.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2018 06:45 PM (/tuJf)

A friend of my daughter's who I had Thanksgiving dinner with three years ago was part of the production crew and sent me a copy. I knew the Scientologists were a malignant cult because the sister of a former coworker had to be deprogrammed. I didn't know quite how nutty Hubbard was before watching it but the most impressive part was how they backed down the IRS, something the GOPe Congress failed miserably to do.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 19, 2018 06:54 PM (y7DUB)

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Holy carp! A semi carrying gasoline rolled over on a bridge a few blocks from us. Big evacuation for a small town like Dixon, IL. Wonder how that happened?

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232 Well, if they ever make a Mamas and Papas bio, Lena is lock to play Mama Cass.

I guess autotune can do wonders.

Posted by: Off the reservation at November 19, 2018 06:56 PM (vWMNq)

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Katshit came to Iowa and couldn't draw flies..only Miss Lindsay did worse...my friend drove Lindsay around the most Republican part of a Republican state and NOT ONE person showed at the many pizza stops...as far as Katshit...never trust a man who cuts his own hair with a serrated Steak Knife...Katshit is Batshit crazy.

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Holy carp! A semi carrying gasoline rolled over on a bridge a few blocks from us. Big evacuation for a small town like Dixon, IL. Wonder how that happened?
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Wants bellyrub

Posted by: The tanker at November 19, 2018 07:03 PM (H9w46)

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I wonder how upset Kasich was when he found out that Republicans won all but one statewide race in Ohio?

Posted by: Smoked Surfperch at November 19, 2018 07:04 PM (hlVcQ)

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122 Feinstein and Camel Toe Harris, want Trump to make a deal with them on 9th Circuit Judges. They want 2 Dems for 2 Republicans.
F-Off. No Deals
Posted by: Jonah at November 19, 2018 06:28 PM (HrSJb)
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And people say lefties have no sense of humor.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at November 19, 2018 07:04 PM (hjaPQ)

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And since they Believe this, they will naturally want a Nationwide investigation of voter fraud with the results to be made public?

Posted by: Karen at November 19, 2018 07:06 PM (5bQDq)

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I haven't been following the GA election very closely, but an article I read last week said that Abrams has 3 dozen lawyers ready to file a lawsuit alleging that there was deliberate "voter suppression" along racial lines.

The evidence will consist of the fact that lines were too long at some voting places, some voters who showed up at the wrong polling places weren't given provisional ballots, and some voting machines malfunctioned.

So apparently Abrams thinks that minorities are too lazy to stand in long voting lines, and that voting machines are raaaaacist.

This whole thing smacks of sore loser-itis. If there's actual evidence of vote tampering, by all means bring it forward. But "waaaaaah, I lost" shouldn't be the basis for invalidating an election.

Purple finger voting should be instituted provided the ink is not the same color as that in the Bank bags...if it were the same it would be voter suppression of bank robbers...instead of merely suppression of the lazy and stupids..

Jared's Diamonds Promotes Notion of Women Proposing to Men

I realize that's not super-romantic but neither is the the current alternative course for a woman who wants to be married to a man who's delaying, which is dropping a lot of naggy hints combined with some semi-ultimatums.

In both cases the guy is being prodded along.

At least in one case, he doesn't have to shell out for a diamond.

Or does he? Maybe the girl is supposed to just get him a cheap diamond ring, with the expectation that he then has to reciprocate with a one-and-half-month's salary jobber.

I'm not entirely trolling with this #HotTake. A lot of people think that marriage is the answer to a lot of social dysfunction -- but men are said to often be in a virtual marriage strike. So anything that kind of pushes the ball towards the "marriage" side of the field would be an improvement, right?

Eh, okay, I'm mostly just trolling. But not completely. A lot of people hang out in not-going-anywhere relationships without making a real push to find out if it's going anywhere. Like dumb guys who become Friendsies with a girl and pine for her for years without ever just manning up and asking her out. And then they wonder why they spent the last two years alone.

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Perhaps men on the marriage strike are because society because they don't see an upside.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2018 05:04 PM (r+sAi)

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I realize that's not super-romantic but neither is the the current
alternative course for a woman who wants to be married to a man who's
delaying, which is dropping a lot of naggy hints combined with some
semi-ultimatums.

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Having women be more manlike and take charge is not going to make a guy more likely to commit.

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Women should be able to ask, or rather say "if this is going somewhere, propose already, and if not, adios". Contrary to the liberal CW, men and women ARE different, with different biological clocks. There was a time when such obvious facts didn't need to be stated.

As to the diamond, if he's going to marry her, and she wants one, then yes, he still needs to buy one. An unwillingness to make that purchase suggests lack of seriousness. It is, in some sense, a statement of commitment. Of course, if they'd both rather spend the money on other things, that's fine.

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2018 05:05 PM (T6t7i)

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You're far more likely to be a Democrat if you're single without kids, that being said, I'm not sure if pushing men to get married to the modern woman and allow them to get Divorce Raped is a conservative goal.

I can completely understand men not wanting the State to get involved in their marriage. Once you say "i do" you're life is basically in the hand of some divorce judge/bureaucrat. And 9 times out of 10 the system is made to benefit women.

So the current marriage strike from men makes perfect sense looking through a conservative lens, but it's going to produce a more liberal society.

Posted by: Blago at November 19, 2018 05:05 PM (UfkIY)

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But seriously, American males are in fact awfully slow to get married. And I do not think the solution is pushier females.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, boom! at November 19, 2018 05:02 PM (Z216Q)

Why should young guys get married when there are loads of women giving it up for free....and now willing to give YOU diamonds besides?

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Marriage is on the decline, I suspect in large part due to the extreme risk to the man that it poses. It's not surprising that there would be forces encouraging women to propose marriage, since they're the class of people it benefits most.

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You know what wil end the marriage strike?No married?No open legs.The end.

Posted by: steevy at November 19, 2018 05:01 PM (BXMxN)

This, on the other hand, would work like a charm.

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Just motor on down the road to the next slit that will.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2018 05:11 PM (2El4P)

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I was on good terms with a woman who was about as modern feminist and equal rights as a straight woman could get. And yet this woman, to the best of my knowledge, would *always* expect a guy to ask her out. As "pro-equality" as she was, she'd never ask a guy out on a date no matter how much she might have been interested in him.

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2018 05:11 PM (cSguU)

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I bought it myself. Checked out after like two chapters. Basically just "All cultures are equal, it's just your silly Western biases that makes you think some are more advanced."

Posted by: ace

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it was interesting if you read further. Of course, the idea that Jared thought that some dude carrying his bags in the jungle was as smart as any college graduate was more a reflection on him. At the end of the day, if you're a marxist, history is just a dominance of folks who had germs and guns and steel. Complete mystery as to why tho.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at November 19, 2018 05:11 PM (7J5t2)

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I've notice that young women often stay in relationships with losers, men with no jobs, no motivation, still live at home, etc. often for years at a time, through their twenties and early thirties. My observation is that many seem to hope that he'll suddenly change, and that they'd rather be in a poor relationship than take their chances in the meat market that is the modern dating scene.

i though the new hotness was "chocolate diamonds", which just made me chuckle because it sounds like industrial diamonds that someone has figured out how to hawk as gemstones.

Posted by: Anachronda at November 19, 2018 05:12 PM (xGZ+b)

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Women want that security of marriage. And I know that electing all those women judges for family court means that the guy gets screwed over by the legal system. What we have now is not a good culture for relationships or raising kids.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 19, 2018 05:12 PM (Lqy/e)

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but since Jared is a hate filled atheist, he couldn't put God in the title.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at November 19, 2018 05:12 PM (7J5t2)

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Meh, this rates a "hey, something not really all outragey..." The missus didn't propose, but she made damned sure I did, and things have gone very well since.

85I bought it myself. Checked out after like two chapters. Basically
just "All cultures are equal, it's just your silly Western biases that
makes you think some are more advanced."the West isn't better, they're just lucky!

Posted by: brak at November 19, 2018 05:13 PM (VckGX)

86
Nothing matters if no kids are involved. Or the potential thereof (or somethin').

Posted by: klaftern at November 19, 2018 05:13 PM (RuIsu)

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Damn. Speaking of the whole marriage thing - I am, at this moment, searching high-and-low for a very specific stock photo composition - it needs to be a younger couple, with the woman on the phone, focused in the foreground, and the man more in the background, (preferably a little out of focus, but not necessarily).

When I put in different search terms to yield that result (on several sites), I am finding that greater than half the search results are themed around spousal abuse or infidelity, lol.

Shots of outraged wives going through the husband's cellphone while he's asleep on the couch, black-eyed women dialing 911, etc.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 19, 2018 05:13 PM (AzW6q)

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i though the new hotness was "chocolate diamonds", which just made me chuckle because it sounds like industrial diamonds that someone has figured out how to hawk as gemstones.
Posted by: Anachronda at November 19, 2018 05:12 PM (xGZ+b)
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I had a prof who taught Central/South American history and he said the only difference between the US and Mexico is that the US had rivers that permitted long distance navigation and thus united the country.

Except... there are no east-west rivers of any great size, and yet we still united well enough with the west.

Oh well nothing matters lol.

Posted by: ace at November 19, 2018 05:17 PM (PbpT7)

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Having women be more manlike and take charge is not going to make a guy more likely to commit.

Seeking a lawyerJust as there are males trapped in female bodies, females trapped in male bodies etc, they are all recognized with rights. I feel I am a dog trapped in a human body. I seek a lawyer to help me become recognized as a dog with rights to be treated by a veterinarian, etc please. I am in Memphis, TN & can travel if needed.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 05:17 PM (miE9U)

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also, the rivers the US had were North-South rivers and they didn't do a great job of uniting the country. Civil War and all that.

11127 >>>5 There is actually an author with the name "Jared Diamond." He wrote 'Guns, Germs and Steel."

The book that every liberal bought and that 0.1% of liberals read.

I bought it myself. Checked out after like two chapters. Basically just "All cultures are equal, it's just your silly Western biases that makes you think some are more advanced."

Posted by: ace at November 19, 2018 *
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I actually bought it and read it. It's fascinating stuff, the actual facts, I mean -- the business about how a lot of animal diseases like cowpox mutated and moved to humans, who lived in close proximity to their farm animals, as smallpox. Or why certain large wild animals were easy to domesticate, and others, like bison, were not.

But then his conclusions, that New Guinea tribesmen for example are at least as intelligent as the average European and that they didn't conquer the Americas because they didn't have big animals or certain crops -- No. Those factors might have contributed. But IQ and culture have even more to do with it.

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I hate having to change the channel when the gay dudes at the bar decide they want to propose to each other. F*ckers. It's a football game, dammit. In the middle of the day. There's no excuse for parents having to explain buttf*cking to their kids during daytime television.

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I don't believe that it's necessary to spend even one month's income on a single piece of jewelry. Nor do I have any notion of spending thousands on a 2-hour ceremony. Young people just starting out in life should be focusing on keeping their debt down and making ends meet, not putting obscene amounts of money on trivialities like that. And yes, those are trivialities, regardless of what the commercials and "tradition" tell you. Once you are together for few years, and have established yourselves financially, then go nuts on the hardware if that's your thing.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at November 19, 2018 05:18 PM (R85nB)

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Seeking a lawyer
Just as there are males trapped in female bodies, females trapped in male bodies etc, they are all recognized with rights. I feel I am a dog trapped in a human body. I seek a lawyer to help me become recognized as a dog with rights to be treated by a veterinarian, etc please. I am in Memphis, TN & can travel if needed.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 05:17 PM (miE9U)
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Posted by: garrettVehemently disagree. After 2 years, the initial sexual explosion has abated, and you're left to consider if you really like this person, and could see having a family with them.

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2018 05:19 PM (T6t7i)

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You know what will end the marriage strike?No married?No open legs.The end.

Posted by: steevy at November 19, 2018 05:01 PM (BXMxN)
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That worked back when most women waited until they were, if not married, at least in a committed relationship of mutual love.

Today most guys will just move on if they don't score after, at most, a few dates.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2018 05:19 PM (Rxduq)

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The one who propose loses all their stuff in the divorce......right?

I'm being slightly facetious but I've spent the last four weeks nervous and anxious out of my mind trying to get into the mindset of being a winner. Because I plan to win next week. And every time I think about my love life I think about a game I've been playing for 18 years or so, never win, and blame myself for losing. And I'm fucking tired of it.

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>>Vehemently disagree. After 2 years, the initial sexual explosion has abated, and you're left to consider if you really like this person, and could see having a family with them.

Exactly.

Like I said, "so long and thanks for the fish!".

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2018 05:20 PM (4AIdF)

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Young men these days are rather indecisive and lazy..I can see why their girlfriends might have to do the proposing.

Posted by: IC at November 19, 2018 05:20 PM (a0IVu)

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Something that I've noticed is the number of dating profiles where the woman talks about how she has a career, owns her own home, etc. Honestly, that stuff turns me off of a woman. Is she hoping to attract a guy who doesn't have that, or is she looking for a guy who has that as well?

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@105"Waifu" is what 'wife' sounds like when spelled with Japanese characters. It's often a reference to 2D anime-ish women.

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2018 05:20 PM (cSguU)

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54. Is that how it works? I have to display the cufflinks as I pledge my troth?

Posted by: kallisto at November 19, 2018 05:20 PM (hxWs0)

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I don't have a problem believing that most populations have a pretty similar IQ potential. But one can train one's IQ to perform better in certain areas. A civilization that has writing, technology, etc. will push IQ to be strong in those areas, including abtractive thinking.

A bushman's IQ will be very trained to recognize landmarks and patterns in the stars for purposes of navigation. His brain will be attentive to details in the physical environment in a way that no civilized man could equal.

But ultimately, that kind of mental focus isn't what builds advanced societies. And advanced societies quickly get beyond needing that skill-set in the first place.

Posted by: ace at November 19, 2018 05:21 PM (PbpT7)

135"A lot of people think that marriage is the answer to a lot of social dysfunction -- but men are said to often be in a virtual marriage strike."

As currently constituted in the USofA, marriage is a really bad deal for men. And while it starts with deBoer's "month and half of gross salary" nonsense, it doesn't stop there.

Look, if I wanted to get married, I'd find a woman I detest, buy her a house and give her half my stuff.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at November 19, 2018 05:21 PM (1hM1d)

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Something that I've noticed is the number of dating profiles where the woman talks about how she has a career, owns her own home, etc. Honestly, that stuff turns me off of a woman. Is she hoping to attract a guy who doesn't have that, or is she looking for a guy who has that as well?
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile

Survey says....yes, until age 37. Then things either get more flexible or box wine becomes a staple

Posted by: hypergamy at November 19, 2018 05:21 PM (Z04f8)

137
You know what will end the marriage strike?No married?No open legs.The end.

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Fellas, don't get married. You got about a 40-50% chance you'll end up losing everything and get financially ass-raped for many years thereafter. And if you have kids, you'll have your heart ripped out and burned in front of you.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 19, 2018 05:22 PM (NWiLs)

139
What's gay is that instead of idiots asking their girlfriend to marry them at Ball Games, idiots will be asking their boyfriend to marry them at Broadway Plays and Ballets.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2018 05:22 PM (4AIdF)

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A lot of people think that marriage is the answer to a lot of social dysfunction ...

_____ Married women generally vote Republican and single women Democrat, as one example.

143I had a prof who taught Central/South American history and he said
the only difference between the US and Mexico is that the US had rivers
that permitted long distance navigation and thus united the country.

Except... there are no east-west rivers of any great size, and yet we still united well enough with the west.

Diamond's best point was to note that the Americas run North-South, so the climate varies wildly, and limits widespread species migration. Eurasia runs East-West, so superior species could diffuse across the entire land mass.

I don't know if that really matters, but it's an interesting thought.

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2018 05:22 PM (T6t7i)

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Re divorce and wealth distribution..does no one believe in prenups?

Posted by: IC at November 19, 2018 05:22 PM (a0IVu)

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Colorado Alex in Exile: what I've found is, and everyone here already knows, is women seem to always want someone ahead of them in money and status.

If a woman is making 6 figures, she wants a millionaire.
If a woman is a millionaire, she wants a billionaire.
etc etc etc...

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 05:22 PM (miE9U)

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Huh. Trinket hawkers think social conventions should be rearranged in a way that would produce more trinket sales. Go figure.

148 I know where I'm going to put the engagement ring for my special fella.

Posted by: Roxy Raye at November 19, 2018 05:23 PM (f1Vqw)

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>>>Married women generally vote Republican and single women Democrat, as one example.

The state is the Husband of Last Resort for unmarriable liberal women.

Posted by: ace at November 19, 2018 05:23 PM (PbpT7)

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Young men these days are rather indecisive and lazy..I can see why their girlfriends might have to do the proposing.
Posted by: IC at November 19, 2018 05:20 PM (a0IVu)

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I'm not part of the whole "he-man woman-hater" thing - this is more of a gripe about family courts, so don't get mad, 'ettes.

Listen - even if you're a decisive guy, marriage these days really is kind of a sucker's bet. Unless most of your assets are unknown to the woman, and offshore, and you don't have any kids together, and don't plan to, I wouldn't recommend this in good faith to any man.

There is just way too much legal incentive to screw you over. It's a really, really dicey contract to be signing.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 19, 2018 05:23 PM (AzW6q)

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Oh no. We're dying out by attrition. Both sexes have been psychologically conditioned into that inescapable state, so that eventually the Muslim hordes will invade and rape the women, turning us into some grotesque tertium quid, the same way the conquistadors did with the mesoamerican women.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2018 05:23 PM (/qEW2)

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133 54. Is that how it works? I have to display the cufflinks as I pledge my troth?
Posted by: kallisto at November 19, 2018 05:20 PM (hxWs0)
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Well, seems slightly more romantic than tossing the cufflinks at him and saying, "Yo, wanna get hitched?"

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Wanna know bout your future wife, take a good long look at her mother. You have been warned.

Posted by: John Doe at November 19, 2018 05:23 PM (WX+x0)

154
Meh, still means putting up with women and their garbage. Waifus don't talk back.---Are sexbots cheaper than a month and a half salary yet?

Posted by: Methos at November 19, 2018 05:23 PM (kOpft)

155134 I don't have a problem believing that most populations have a pretty similar IQ potential. But one can train one's IQ to perform better in certain areas. A civilization that has writing, technology, etc. will push IQ to be strong in those areas, including abtractive thinking.

A bushman's IQ will be very trained to recognize landmarks and patterns in the stars for purposes of navigation. His brain will be attentive to details in the physical environment in a way that no civilized man could equal.

But ultimately, that kind of mental focus isn't what builds advanced societies. And advanced societies quickly get beyond needing that skill-set in the first place.

Posted by: ace at November 19, 2018 *
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Exactly. Still, Diamond's book is a fun read in places. The trouble is, the rest of its places are full of the "all cultures are equal" routine. It's tiresome.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 19, 2018 05:23 PM (V7hgh)

156
Well that might increase the white birth rate which is quite low
I am sure that a lot of conservatives would like to see more white American babies
Posted by: Disabled

Thanks for elaborating on the nature of your disability.

Posted by: hypergamy at November 19, 2018 05:24 PM (Z04f8)

157
My wife left her diamond ring on a bathroom sink downtown. She left the bathroom and before leaving the store realized she had left it. Turned around and rushed back to the bathroom to find it was already gone. Didn't take long to disappear.

159
---I tell my married friends to close their eyes and
imagine looking over the Menu of their favorite restaurant after a 10
day fast.

Now, imagine you can only order what is left on the other patron's tables when they are finished with it.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2018 05:18 PM

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Now imagine you can only order what you left on your own plate last time you finished.

Posted by: The married friends at November 19, 2018 05:24 PM (pMGkg)

160
Isn't the first part of that commercial a gay dude proposing to his gay partner after karoke went bad? Then the white lady proposes to the dude and like a beta, he holds up his ring finger for a crowd to admire? My wife's feedback was "they're trying to showcase all the diversity". Next up ? A transgender couple plays "ring toss" with the engagement ring. The whole thing is dumb. If you can't get a guy to commit, it's probably something wrong with you.

Posted by: Baboo the Oceleot at November 19, 2018 05:24 PM (ia2he)

161Survey says....yes, until age 37. Then things either get more flexible or box wine becomes a staple
Posted by: hypergamy at November 19, 2018 05:21 PM (Z04f

Heh, yeah you're probably right.

Honestly, I think it makes them less appealing. I wouldn't move into a place that I didn't own or wasn't on the lease. I can see a woman holding the fact that she owns the house over your head anytime there's a disagreement.

And I don't care about your career darling, because I want kids and for you to stay home and raise them.

3. If you don't marry her you don't have to give her half your shit when she leaves.

Posted by: Jaqen H'ghar at November 19, 2018 05:25 PM (5fSr7)

164 BTW, has anyone seen that watermelon I got this morning at the grocery store? I seem to have misplaced it somewhere.

Posted by: Roxy Raye at November 19, 2018 05:25 PM (f1Vqw)

165
>>.Well that might increase the white birth rate which is quite low
I am sure that a lot of conservatives would like to see more white American babies
Posted by: Disabled

ugh, this troll is becoming a verminous pest

Posted by: ace at November 19, 2018 05:25 PM (PbpT7)

166
"Darling"...I love you soooooo much...can I have half your stuff and never let you see your children until I find a slug loser to move in with me and then...can you take them whenever we wanna binge? *flutter*

Posted by: ronsfi at November 19, 2018 05:25 PM (JVrQi)

167
"good breeding" used to be applied to humans, not just cattle (or whatever livestock). It sorta generally meant "marrying up", or advancing oneself up to a higher societal level. It was not just genetics, but cultural development ...

Now I suppose such terms would get censored on Twitter as hate speak or some such. The whole "it takes a village" to send both parents off to work so the kids can be brainwashed by the school or prison system ... is the new way ... and feminism thinks men are not even needed, may even be harmful, unless they are fully cucked.

Would women propose to "real men", or to the beta or gamma "males"?

Posted by: illiniwek at November 19, 2018 05:25 PM (Cus5s)

168
I'd be happy if my 30 yr old son living in the basement had a date

Posted by: wrg500 at November 19, 2018 05:25 PM (lJj4R)

169
There is the story of a man looking for his car keys so he checks in his 40 year old unmarried daughter's purse.

He doesn't find the keys, but he does find a vibrator.

Daughter comes downstairs to see her father sitting at the kitchen table with a beer and the vibrator.

172Today most guys will just move on if they don't score after, at most, a few dates.

The rule I've heard from my non-LDS friends and co-workers is at least a BJ by the end of the third date.

My wife and I are those weird LDS people, so we both waited until marriage.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 19, 2018 05:25 PM (9qZ3S)

173
I'm old fashioned. I think the man should ask, because he usually the
one shouldering the financial burden for the marriage. He should decide
who gets to spend his money.---Should the woman buy the ring if she has better earnings, then?

Posted by: Methos at November 19, 2018 05:25 PM (kOpft)

174
Fellas, don't get married. You got about a 40-50% chance you'll end up losing everything and get financially ass-raped for many years thereafter. And if you have kids, you'll have your heart ripped out and burned in front of you.
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Well buddy, 95% of the guys I know busted their fins, jumping over obstacles, dodging bears only to die trying.

50% odds are looking pretty good.

Posted by: Sal Monid at November 19, 2018 05:25 PM (C6xeQ)

175
Young men these days are rather indecisive and lazy..I can see why their girlfriends might have to do the proposing.
Posted by: IC at November 19, 2018 05:20 PM (a0IVu)

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This was my daughter's rationale for dating a 27 year old guy at age 18. "Dad, have you SEEN the guys my age?".

178
@125 Personally I think 3.3 years is pretty crazy. If you don't know if a person is right for you after a year or two, you need to move on.----------------That's because things are different when you're talking about people who think nothing of living together for a long period of time while "dating". Tell those couples "no living together until you're married", and that time period would be shortened.

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2018 05:26 PM (cSguU)

179
Does this stupid ad also start out with 2 dudes getting engaged too?

Posted by: buzzion at November 19, 2018 05:26 PM (WaxcS)

180
Did anyone else see the video of the wedding reception where the groom threw a bouquet too? All the guys present lined up, and then ran like Hell when it went airborne.

Posted by: hypergamy at November 19, 2018 05:26 PM (Z04f8)

181
Instapundit used to link an observation from someone that ancient people were very much smarter than the current population, because you can't live too long without being attentive and smart. (Of course, disease wiped out a lot of babies too, and that didn't have anything to do with IQ, but after that, you'd need to be intelligent just to survive.)

184
You know what's interesting - you talk to divorced men - they say they got screwed, you talked to divorced women - they say they got screwed. Now, if you talk to family lawyers on the other hand...

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2018 05:27 PM (bUjCl)

185Question: Did Acosta do something today that pissed off the White House?

189
One bit of good/funny news - One of my con friends who like me is a conservative that usually passes in meatspace as being apolitical texted me the other day and said "Congrats dude! ace quoted you on a front page post!"

191
I don't have a problem believing that most populations have a pretty similar IQ potential. But one can train one's IQ to perform better in certain areas. A civilization that has writing, technology, etc. will push IQ to be strong in those areas, including abtractive thinking.

A bushman's IQ will be very trained to recognize landmarks and patterns in the stars for purposes of navigation. His brain will be attentive to details in the physical environment in a way that no civilized man could equal.

But ultimately, that kind of mental focus isn't what builds advanced societies. And advanced societies quickly get beyond needing that skill-set in the first place.

Posted by: ace

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Apologies if this is too politically incorrect, but I'm willing to concede that certain races could have athletic superiority compared to other races. The average asian is not going to have the upper body strength of someone of African descent, etc.

the idea though that other parts of the body besides muscles (like the brain) could also have differences among races is an uncomfortable idea that may go against everything we want to hold dear, but it's not an outrageous idea imo

Posted by: Blago at November 19, 2018 05:28 PM (UfkIY)

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184 You know what's interesting - you talk to divorced men - they say they got screwed, you talked to divorced women - they say they got screwed. Now, if you talk to family lawyers on the other hand...
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2018 05:27 PM (bUjCl)
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The women only say they got screwed because they only got to keep half the stuff, instead of all the stuff.

199
Oh! OMG! Janelle! This is...so...unexpected, but...you just don't have any ambition. I'm so sorry. I need a girl with direction, who can take care of me and our babies. So sorry...you should a have let my lawyer know you were going to propose.

Posted by: ronsfi at November 19, 2018 05:31 PM (JVrQi)

200
Personally I think 3.3 years is pretty crazy. If you don't know if a person is right for you after a year or two, you need to move on.

++++

They might be"right for each other" but not feel any need to marry. I've known plenty of people like that

202
You know what's interesting - you talk to divorced men - they say they got screwed, you talked to divorced women - they say they got screwed. Now, if you talk to family lawyers on the other hand...
Posted by: runner

Women tend to get the house, or at least half, less than half the debt, custody of the kids (plus child support) and as I mentioned, alimony in some states. oh yeah, half of the pension/401k.

The only sure fire losers are the children, followed by the husbands.

Posted by: hypergamy at November 19, 2018 05:31 PM (Z04f8)

203
Half the marriages end in divorce, and half the other half are miserable and wish they had the guts to divorce. And the guy loses half his stuff. So, either way, the guy is taking the grenade. Why you think 80% of suicides are middle aged guys.

Posted by: ST at November 19, 2018 05:31 PM (YYlrT)

204
I think we can all agree on one thing regarding weddings: the "making your own vows" ritual should be outlawed in all 50 states and U.S. Territories.

225
Marriage can be a risky thing, it's not a given that the man always proposes and ponies up for a spendy ring. A woman can know what she wants and go after it. The month and a half dollar ring is just foolish, stupid really. Man made stones cost a lot less and look/feel/smell like the natural stone.

(my wife and I discussed marriage there was no bent knee proposals and our rings did not cost us months of pay. I'm on my third ring now(gold then titanium then tungsten) I'm hard on rings. 24 years later. my wife has her original gold ring with upgraded yet smallish diamonds. Marriage is work and commitment all rolled into the ups and downs of life. Proposals and rings are theater that should not matter at all.

230Doesn't matter to me. Someone in a relationship inevitably brings up the subject of marriage. To test the waters. I can't believe any proposals are complete surprises anymore - romantic notion, but more risk involved.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2018 05:35 PM (2I4LM)

231
"making your own vows" ritual should be outlawed in all 50 states and U.S. Territories.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at November 19, 2018 05:31 PM (R85nB)

"I, Ricky, promise to love, as much as I can, and as often as I can, under the circumstances."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 19, 2018 05:35 PM (BRvh1)

232
I'm under the impression most proposals are driven by the female anyway.

Posted by: kallisto at November 19, 2018 05:36 PM (hxWs0)

233
I recently saw another pharmaceutical ad hawking some drug that is supposed to minimize the effects of aids. Showed trans, gays, etc. happily living their lives with aids.

Wrong message. Risky behavior?

Posted by: Cheri at November 19, 2018 05:36 PM (oiNtH)

234
if a woman proposed to me, i would run like a fucking impala. i would know, she be cray cray. that shit will never work.
Posted by: chavez

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I mean, if you know women, walked with them as one does...then you know when they know they know because they'll tell you, your friends, her friends, her family, and your ex girl friends.

the difference is, apparently, knowing which one to take up on the offer.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at November 19, 2018 05:36 PM (7J5t2)

235
Laugha whila you canna monkey boy. The older I get, the more I think old-fashioned courtships are needed. No kissing until you are ready to say "I love you." Certainly no sex until marriage. Make sure you and your intended truly do value the same things and have the same goals. As the mama said to her son in some movie "Be the man that deserves that beautiful woman."

Posted by: JAS at November 19, 2018 05:36 PM (3HNOQ)

236
In fact, now that I think of it, everyone should have one of these.

That homeless guy you see every day ? Yep. Put a ring on it!

Posted by: Marcus T at November 19, 2018 05:36 PM (hYiOu)

237
>>I had a prof who taught Central/South American history and he said
the only difference between the US and Mexico is that the US had rivers
that permitted long distance navigation and thus united the country.

>>Except... there are no east-west rivers of any great size, and yet we still united well enough with the west.

The Great Loop. 6000 miles of watery goodness that will take you from the east coast to Tulsa, Houston, Minneapolis and points south as far as Mobile and New Orleans. If you toss in the Gulf of Mexico all the way to Florida.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2018 05:36 PM (/tuJf)

238
Methos, if the woman wants to buy her ring, fine. But I said that usually, the man earns the bulk of the salary, and he should decide whether he wants to ask a woman to marry him. If a woman makes more money, and wants to ask, good for her. Hence my including the example of Queen Victoria.

In our marriage, I made more, but my husband asked. He paid for the rings, and I paid for the wedding. His financial burden was significantly less, since I also paid for the hotel and food for all the guests, his as well as mine.

Posted by: Moki at November 19, 2018 05:36 PM (mFoNl)

239
Especially now, with the same sex marriage, no one can say, that one parent is more apt at raising than the other.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2018 05:36 PM (bUjCl)

240
if a woman proposed to me, i would run like a fucking impala. i would know, she be cray cray. that shit will never work.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 19, 2018 05:32 PM (KP5rU)

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I had a rather crazy girlfriend back in the day demand that I get down on one knee and propose to her. This was after a big ass fight. I could not get to the door fast enough.

241
Yeah it's the children that get screwed in the divorce and that sucks. Never regretted divorcing 1st wife but ton of regret for my daughters now middle aged with 5 sons of their own, no husbands.
Got guilt bout that too. Merciful God have mercy.

Posted by: John Doe at November 19, 2018 05:36 PM (WX+x0)

242I don't have a problem believing that most populations have a pretty
similar IQ potential. But one can train one's IQ to perform better in
certain areas. A civilization that has writing, technology, etc. will
push IQ to be strong in those areas, including abtractive thinking.Gregory Cochran's "The 10,000 Year Explosion: How Civilization Accelerated Human Evolution" deals with the rate of evolutionary change in human populations. There are many examples of people changing more rapidly than one might expect. Jews, for example, apparently evolved a higher IQ within roughly 500-1000 years, due largely to selection pressures for more numerate and literate people.

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2018 05:36 PM (T6t7i)

243
116 I don't believe that it's necessary to spend even one month's income on a single piece of jewelry. Nor do I have any notion of spending thousands on a 2-hour ceremony. Young people just starting out in life should be focusing on keeping their debt down and making ends meet, not putting obscene amounts of money on trivialities like that. And yes, those are trivialities, regardless of what the commercials and "tradition" tell you. Once you are together for few years, and have established yourselves financially, then go nuts on the hardware if that's your thing.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at November 19, 2018 05:18 PM (R85nB)
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AMEN.
I did not have an engagement ring, much less a diamond, and we had a small, informal wedding with 40 people.

We did have a vow-renewal ceremony and nice dinner-dance for our 25th anniversary though.
And that's something young people might consider if they want a big party. Wait for a landmark anniversary.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2018 05:37 PM (Rxduq)

244Fast forward to Match.com. There are so many 40+ year old ladies with copious pictures of travel to foreign lands and stuff. They all want kids, and want to settle down.

Me: "That was so twenty five years ago!"
Posted by: nip at November 19, 2018 05:33 PM (DfGpI)

I'm in my mid thirties and it kinda sucks for dating. Twenty-somethings aren't interested, I'm not interested in the forty-somethings because they're too old to have kids, and women between 30 and 32 are mostly married or in long-term relationships that won't fall apart for another few years.

248
I'm not entirely trolling with this #HotTake. A lot of people think that marriage is the answer to a lot of social dysfunction -- but men are said to often be in a virtual marriage strike. So anything that kind of pushes the ball towards the "marriage" side of the field would be an improvement, right?

Nope.

Women need men like a fish needs a bicycle, right? The Left and women want to keep on pushing their BS? Fine!

250
Some women get nothing and get the privilege of supporting their loser husbands, folks. Family courts and laws work both ways.
Posted by: runner

how many women get forced to support kids that are not theirs?

How many were forced to support a kid that never existed? it happened to a guy in N. Mexico, that hadn't gone near his ex in years AND had a vasectomy. They drained him for over $28,000 and refused to repay any, AFTER the ex tried kidnapping a child in the park in front of the court house, cause she (finally) was under a court order to prove that the child existed.

Look at the actuarial tables. Even if she doesn't divorce you, she's getting all your stuff eventually. There's a pay gap all right. Married women make 182% of what men make.

Single women realize they are missing out.

Posted by: simplemind at November 19, 2018 05:37 PM (C6xeQ)

252Did anyone else see the video of the wedding reception where the groom threw a bouquet too? All the guys present lined up, and then ran like Hell when it went airborne.

I like it, but the garter toss is supposed to have the same "meaning" for guys as the bouquet toss for the ladies. If you catch it, you're the next to be married.

I caught the garter at a wedding once, and several guys came up to me afterwards and quietly thanked me for catching it. I'm not sure if they were being funny or not. I tend to believe it was tongue in cheek.

254
It's all up to the girls. If they ever get the sense to realize what feminism has done to their lives, they'll drown the harridans, and go to something sane. Until that happens, well, I don't see many youngsters ending up in a happy marriage like I did. As it is, there's too much of a tax on putting up with them.

But the ball's in their court. (That was a singular possessive, guys.)

259
"making your own vows" ritual should be outlawed in all 50 states and U.S. Territories.

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maybe I am a slightly older millenial gay black muslim but I find weddings to be a bit much. Make it fast. You are not special snowflakes and every speech sounds the same. Just elope unless your parents can comfortably afford to feed and booze up your friends in a comfortable happy setting.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at November 19, 2018 05:38 PM (7J5t2)

272
The dating scene is trash. I lasted a week in it before I decided to call my first real serious girlfriend back after 20 plus years I thank God many times a day she was single, and we picked up where we left off as teenagers. Good family. Right Wing. Traditional. No kids. Kind. No drama or fights.

275I caught the garter at a wedding once, and several guys came up to me afterwards and quietly thanked me for catching it. I'm not sure if they were being funny or not. I tend to believe it was tongue in cheek.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 19, 2018 05:38 PM (9qZ3S)

Partially truth. I bet some of them were there with their girlfriends.

I'l give you $5 if you answer one question with "That's what your mother said last night, Trebek!" in Sean Connery's voice.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2018 05:42 PM (/tuJf)

282
263 If all cultures are equal, how come immigration only seems to be one-way?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
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We stole all of their stuff.

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it's a rhetorical trap that certain cultures have evolved into that they can't say certain things without getting fired and ostracized. Other cultures will happy to tell you to fuck off and leave their country, or learn the language and the religion and gimme $$$ or else leave.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at November 19, 2018 05:42 PM (7J5t2)

I'm 36, hence mid-thirties. I made a cut off of 32 because I want kids and the average woman's fertility starts to rapidly decline after 35. Once you factor in dating and an engagement, you're looking at marriage at late 33 or 34 if she's already 32. Not good odds.

291
Flynn Effect was also never completely substantiated IMHO - IQ's going up really meant IQ scores going up, meaning people did better on IQ tests. Well, the modern IQ test didn't even exist until the 1910's and was still in "beta" for a while longer. On tests like Raven's Advanced Progressive Matrices, which study only pattern recognition and not book learnin', scores never saw the increases that Flynn pointed out on things like the S-B, WAIS and ASVB.

307
What is this marriage y'all are talking about? I've read about such a thing in the Bible but I don't recognize such an institution in the USA. That the thing where the chick takes all your stuff or the one with two dudes and a llama?

317263 If all cultures are equal, how come immigration only seems to be one-way?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
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We stole all of their stuff.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2018 05:39 PM (hkMWc)

That's what they get for being on our land before we got here.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 19, 2018 05:48 PM (eXA4G)

318
Sorry, but that is bullshit. The statistics show it. The supermajority of all alimony and child support goes to women. That's simple fact.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 19, 2018 05:46 PM (NWiLs)

It is not automatic though, is it ? There are factors involved ? It's not going to her just because she is a woman ?

328
Family courts fuck over good decent people. The vast majority just happen to be men. If the woman isn't a ruthless cintroling personality type, she can get fucked up by her controlling abusive husband, but the courts reward the psychotic dangerous women 99% of the time. It is what it is.

330
Why do we need 53 African countries anyhow? Blah blah, tribal history and culture. We have that in this country too. How bout, I dunno, 11? Because if I lose because I don't know the capital of the fucking Central African Republic then Culver City will burn.

333
Lotta comments sort of negative toward men as indecisive, lazy, not man enough etc, and while that's true in many cases, let's not pretend that all American women are worth spending more than a few months with.

There might be factors involved, but I think it goes to her just because she's a woman. One of my brothers got divorced and his lawyer started from the premise my brother was going to pay and the only question being litigated was "how much?".

335
Divorce courts are courts of equity. Some states try to standardize, take some of the power from the judges, have formulas and some such.

But, overall that whole industry needs to be destroyed. I preys on misery, it preys on greed and weakness. Many divorce lawyers create superficial conflict between parties just to make more money. Dumb and greedy people fall for it.

I am sorry that happened Blake. The downfall came about when no fault divorce entered the scene. Like I said, the whole industry is bad.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2018 05:57 PM (bUjCl)

366
229 I think we can all agree on one thing regarding weddings: the "making your own vows" ritual should be outlawed in all 50 states and U.S. Territories.
Posted by: Citizen Cake
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When I get those invitations about "sharing our love," I pass. Must be an orgy, I say.

And yeah, "own vows" make it all meaningless. All based on feeeeelings.
These ceremonies have little or nothing to do with a solemn oath before God and man. They're just narcissistic, public displays of affection. Get a freaking room.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2018 05:57 PM (Rxduq)

367
Most every couple that have been together for more than a year have discussed marriage , mostly initiated by the woman. Not too many men ask a woman to marry them without knowing the answer to the question.

I accidentally hit the ball right back at the pitcher's head once. He had just enough time to turn his head. The ball hit his ear hard enough (plus he flinched) that he rotated in the air and landed right on his back.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 19, 2018 05:58 PM (9qZ3S)

371
Some women get nothing and get the privilege of supporting their loser husbands, folks. Family courts and laws work both ways.
Posted by: runner

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I'd love to see the percentages on that phenomenon.

Women basically get defaulted primary custody of kids, half the assets, and several years of alimony. And there's absolutely no penalty for making outrageous charges against the husband to squeeze them for more. Trump's wife Ivana claimed he raped her because the divorce attorney told her to say that. Jack Ryan's wife made up all kinds of crazy shit to get more money.

Posted by: Blago at November 19, 2018 05:58 PM (UfkIY)

372
>>>if a woman proposed to me, i would run like a fucking impala.<<<

This foolishness must countered immediately with a request for a commitment-free test drive. A tuneup, if you will. As a good faith gesture.

As a father in family courts, you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. The judges will make shit up out of thin sir to bail them out if you have your wife or ec wife check mated and surrounded. It's fucked up.

Men aren't the flaw in your strategy other women are. Women are sluttier than ever, and they grow sluttier every year. You can compete and that means giving it up, or you can sit home on the couch....with your cats. That's the choice a woman in the dating market makes today.

Posted by: DFCtomm at November 19, 2018 05:59 PM (50gG9)

383
Blake, it hasn't changed. If anything it's more entrenched in the legal system.

Child support laws, too. A woman can be the primary breadwinner but, depending on state, sure, the man will be required to pay x% depending on a formula that doesn't account for that. Nor does it factor in geographic factors, lots of fun if the state is where the median income is much less than where the man lives.

Bottom line, a guy could be making money in a state where he is barely getting by but considered solid middle class in another state, and be required to send a LOT of money. I'm not saying child support in and of itself is wrong or bad, but it's also used as a way to punish men in too many cases.

385
My wife proposed in the most romantic manner, she said either we get hitched or I'm out of here. That was 1977. Good times .

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at November 19, 2018 05:59 PM (NHSOx)

386
When I get those invitations about "sharing our love," I pass. Must be an orgy, I say.

And yeah, "own vows" make it all meaningless. All based on feeeeelings.
These ceremonies have little or nothing to do with a solemn oath before God and man. They're just narcissistic, public displays of affection. Get a freaking room.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2018 05:57 PM (Rxduq)

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I'd just plagiarize a hallmark card. Probably a sympathy card

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 19, 2018 05:59 PM (NhgkA)

387
I don't know the capital of the fucking Central African Republic then Culver City will burn.
Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at November 19, 2018 05:51 PM (oZ6kz)

I'd be willing to bet that the average resident of the Central African Republic is only vaguely aware that the Central African Republic even exists, let alone what or where the capital is, and how to spell it.

Hell, I stole it first. It's a joke from Mel Gibson's version of "Maverick".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 19, 2018 06:01 PM (eXA4G)

392
Then she sweetly asked if I would be upset if she used a ring from her Great Aunt as her engagement ring.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at November 19, 2018 06:01 PM (NHSOx)

393
I am sorry that happened Blake. The downfall came about when no fault divorce entered the scene. Like I said, the whole industry is bad.
Posted by: runner

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I can sort of understand "no fault" divorce laws though, do we really want judges figuring out who cheated on who?

To me, a divorce should not financially be any different than a boyfriend and girlfriend breaking up. Whatever they put their name on jointly is a joint asset, otherwise, each has their own stuff and money.

I asked her to move in with me after I bought a house. This would have been the 3rd time she moved in and then later on one of us left.

She had enough of that and refused unless we got married.

We did and it's been 32 years, almost 33.

Good story.

Posted by: kahall at November 19, 2018 06:01 PM (NVlF9)

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Meh..it's just a commercial. I figure those beta guys probably wasn't to be asked by the alpha female. The only thing that would have made the commercial special is if they'd used Pajama Boy in it. His girlfriend popping the question while he sits there in his footie PJs trying to discuss Obamacare with her.

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I am sorry that happened Blake. The downfall came about when no fault divorce entered the scene. Like I said, the whole industry is bad.
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2018 05:57 PM (bUjCl)
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Long time ago and I managed to put that baggage behind me after a couple of decades.

401Trump's wife Ivana claimed he raped her because the divorce attorney told her to say that.

Yep. She actually admitted it in a Time interview. They asked her about the rape and she said something like, "That was just lawyer talk."

Posted by: bonhomme at November 19, 2018 06:02 PM (9qZ3S)

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Marriage because really you've had enough sex for the rest of your life by now anyways right?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 19, 2018 06:02 PM (+syJZ)

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"I'd be willing to bet that the average resident of the Central African Republic is only vaguely aware that the Central African Republic even exists, let alone what or where the capital is, and how to spell it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 19, 2018 06:00 PM (BRvh1) "

I imagine this is probably true, since it's a mushed together fake country with no real collective cultural or tribal history. Only guilty white cosmopolitans care about these scrub tier countries.

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364 So she gets down on her knees to propose?
Don't be suckered in, she may never do that again.
Posted by: wth at November 19, 2018 05:57 PM (HgMAr)

Groom and groomsmen laughing and joking Groom has big smile! Boast I got greatest BJ ever last night
Bride and bridesmaids laughing and joking Bride has big smile. Girls I gave my last BJ last night!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 19, 2018 06:03 PM (JFO2v)

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Thanks for the well wishes. It'll help if I can spend most of the week studying instead of just being hilariously bitter about areas of life that are adjacent to the current topic.

Fuck thot troubles, crush Daily Doubles.
Posted by: Who is broseidon

You can thank Blitzer. He set the bar so low that an actual wolf would have fared better.

Posted by: Cheri at November 19, 2018 06:04 PM (oiNtH)

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''I imagine this is probably true, since it's a mushed together fake country with no real collective cultural or tribal history. Only guilty white cosmopolitans care about these scrub tier countries.''

Many years ago, I used to work for a state legislator who was sponsoring (actual, bi-partisan) legislation to bring some equity back to the family courts in our state.

When this thing was in committee, the divorce lawyer's sent their lobbyists to the open hearings to have their say. They said, in no uncertain terms that they didn't care WHO the laws favored, as long as it favored one side or the other. And that if the bill made it out of committee they'd do everything in their considerable power to get all of those legislators out of office.

The only lobbyists I ever saw who were more gangsta were the NEA.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 19, 2018 06:04 PM (AzW6q)

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Yep. She actually admitted it in a Time interview. They asked her about the rape and she said something like, "That was just lawyer talk."
Posted by: bonhomme

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I had a friend who's ex-wife out of nowhere said the father was sexually molesting the kids. He was high profile too, about ruined him. Whole thing was dropped and the woman never paid a price for it.

Yup. A handful of assholes in a handful of buildings in a shit town in the middle of fucking nowhere call themselves a "government", and a handful of assholes in a handful of buildings in Brussels says, "Sounds legit. Security Council vote is on Tuesday. Don't fuck it up."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 19, 2018 06:06 PM (BRvh1)

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you got off light. my friend had to pay child support for his ex and her boyfriend's kid.
Posted by: x at November 19, 2018 06:00 PM (nFwvY)

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Hah! Ex got pregnant a week after I moved out. I would have had to pay for that kid, except, for whatever reason, the courts in MN accepted the results of the paternity test that proved I wasn't the father. The actual father was known, so he had to pay.

I would regale you with the whole sordid tale, but, it's so unbelievable that everyone would think I was spinning fiction.

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That's impressive considering how long since the Cleveland Indians have won the series.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90
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Oh, pains. The other night local sportscaster going OH THE HORROR are they ever going to stop using that derogatory name.

And he' at least 60 yr old. WTF, buddy?

Posted by: Braenyard at November 19, 2018 06:13 PM (xzZPy)

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Divorce stories? My ex-wife remarried twice after me, had a kid with each one while I was raising our daughter. One of the guys was a hard core criminal and ended up vandalizing her apartment when they broke up. Then she left her third husband claiming abuse, moved in with my daughter, got drunk at a bar and tried to drive my daughter's 4-Runner home with two flat tires. Cops pulled her over in a shower of sparks and threw her in jail and impounded my daughter's car. She then fakes suicide by pills, ends up in psych ward, then rehab then is released to her ex-coke fiend born again friend (my daughter refused to let her come back) That lasts about two weeks, now she is on the loose again back with her third husband.
And my family wonders why I never remarried.

I got hosed by a lazy, cheating asshat who tossed me and the kiddos out of the house. I had no job, nor a place to live, nor a bank account.

No alimony and 300 bucks a month in child support. For 13 years.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 19, 2018 06:00 PM (d7Ww2)

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Maybe it's a guy thing, but I think far less of a guy who does this kind of crap versus a woman who does such a thing. And I say this as a guy who got shafted in the divorce wars.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at November 19, 2018 06:11 PM (qC1Sy)

Different cultural expectations(among other things men are expected to take oaths seriously). However, consider if a guy had gotten CS, lost the house, but still had full custody? That's a pretty solid win.

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Different cultural expectations(among other things men are expected to take oaths seriously). However, consider if a guy had gotten CS, lost the house, but still had full custody? That's a pretty solid win.
Posted by: Someguy at November 19, 2018 06:17 PM (z5Vrg)
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Hmm, you must know me. I did that to my ex. I waited patiently, because I knew she'd screw up and I took the kids away.

I intentionally didn't ask for support, because I knew I could use the threat of going to court for support to keep the ex off my back. Worked like a charm.

Sounds like you both connected with each other and understand how to communicate with each other. Hence the "tricking" and acceptance.

Congrats on finding that special woman, and vice versa.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2018 06:26 PM (UsCnO)

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I don't think it's the way to start things off. I'm outspoken, maybe even bossy, but I wouldn't ask a man to marry me if he came with a million bucks. Not even if he came tax-free. With a lifetime supply of Belgian chocolate. Plus a couch to eat it on. Nope, still not proposing to a man.

447
I didn't read this part of Guns Germs and Steel, is it a new edition?

Posted by: dw at November 19, 2018 06:49 PM (stPAM)

448
Moron Robbie: I finally answered your Latin question on the Borgia thread. Sorry it took so long - not very healthy today.

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at November 19, 2018 07:14 PM (sPgZ5)

449
Both daughters understood there would be no living together before marriage and no longer than a year engagement. There is a lot to be discovered in that one year engagement because things change once you put the ring on the finger. One daughter ended up giving the ring back at 6 months, and met and married a wonderful man. The other daughter married her hubby and they are so happy even after 11 years. Both have confirmed that we were right after all. There is a reason for successful marriages and it has a lot to do with respect.

Posted by: StellasTwoCents at November 19, 2018 07:19 PM (Z0huu)

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Ace is 100% wrong that women should initiate a marriage proposal. I'm a woman in my late 50s, never married. I never understood men and if I was interested in one, I went after him and gave him whatever he wanted - total role reversal.

In my mid-40s I was like, "Why isn't this working?!" I read Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus, and Mars and Venus on a Date, and The Rules, and by the time I finished, I could see ALL the mistakes I made. I even experimented when I dated guys, took the advice, and it worked like a CHARM! Men would do what The Rules authors said they would, in about 15 seconds.

It was too late for me, I wanted a family, but it is what it is.

So, combine the effect of crazy women like Steinem, the horrors of divorce for men, women who were never told how courting worked and our anti-child tax code, for our birth rate decline. I would have happily had 3 or 4 kids, but I lived in a very confused time.

Very sad about it.

I do divorce work, some, and it's bad for men, but slowly judges are coming on that are children of divorce and thus fairer. Also, the laws in my state are less harsh than they used to be to men. Imperfect, but less harsh.

Posted by: Had to Read a Book at November 19, 2018 07:28 PM (Kpbco)

Sloppy Daniels: Trump Destroyed My "Career" of "Writing" and "Directing" "Movies" of People Having Sex

"You don't have money for a tip? Well I've got a tip right here"? Eh, feels like it's been done before.

"I'll give you the pie for free if you give me your pie"? Damn, that's brilliant! Another bit of perfect Stormy Daniels dialogue!!!

The political "shitshow" of the last ten months left her with no capacity to write movies--her favorite part of working in porn--she said during an event entitled "Sex, Guns and Other Fluff: How Porn Can Set You Free."

But Daniels--real name Stephanie Clifford--vowed to keep working in the adult film world. Although she was on "an unofficial break" from writing and directing, she said she certainly hadn't retired. "I'll probably never leave the adult film industry," she added.

She needs to spend more time with her stripping.

Producing a porn film, Daniels told the packed debating hall, was an intensive process. "I write the script down, I do the budget, I do the shoot schedule, I pick out the wardrobe," she said.

I like the inadvertent admission about "writing" a porn script. She specifies the main work of a "writing" a porn script isn't actually "writing" it at all, but "writing down" the porn script.

Because, let's face it, it's all the same thing. The only genuine work involved is taking a pen and literally writing down "Then she eats his butt" on to a legal pad.

ESTABLISHING SHOT

Los Angeles downtown skyline shrouded by haze.

ZOOM SHOT AND FIND

an open window in a house clearly nowhere near Los Angeles' downtown.

SMASH-CUT CLOSE-UP (CU)

She eats his butt.

REACTION SHOT

He smiles. He likes having his butt eaten.

GUY DICKENS
(sighing)
Thank you. I like having my butt eaten.

STAR-WIPE AND EXTREME CLOSE-UP (XCU)

into his butt. Which she is eating.

...

"I had no idea what I was getting myself into," she told the audience, referring to the ongoing scandal. "Nor would I realize what a huge impact the circus would have, not only on my life, but the rest of the world."

She had no idea there was going to be a media circus when she sent her Creepy Porn Lawyer out on tv to talk about a detailed description of the president's penis, kept in a safe, or when she herself advertised Trump's penis as being "mushroom" shaped, which I'm not even sure is an insult.

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Back in the 80's, you actually had plots.
Most pornos had 4 or 5 sex scenes of about 10 min and the rest of the film was filled out with...movie stuff. Some of it was pretty good, like the John Leslie-directed stuff.

MOST of that is gone now. I don't know if the Stormy-directed stuff has relationship building scenes and setup or not.

I'm willing to do the research, in case someone has grant money floating around.

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I've watched some of the "pron" it seems like modern stuff has literally no dialog at all. At most, the director asks the 19 year old about herself. "I'm 19, I've been in the biz for 2 months and I love it. The first time I was with a guy, I was 12..." "wow 12 huh" "yeah, you could say I was a slut"

and scene.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at November 19, 2018 04:04 PM (7J5t2)

I suppose that's the "news" angle here. Though I'm sure Reality Kings would beg to differ. Just guessing from what I've been told about their cinematic efforts, though.

Posted by: DocJ at November 19, 2018 04:04 PM (NYS7S)

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Producing a porn film, Daniels told the packed debating hall, was an intensive process. "I write the script down, I do the budget, I do the shoot schedule, I pick out the wardrobe," she said.

WTF? How hard is it to pick out your birthday suit?
No one gives a fvck what you were wearing when you stepped on the set.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2018 04:04 PM (2El4P)

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I get the sense that porn scrips are a basic framework with a lot of shot direction. As in "OK here's the setup, you're an orphan begging on the streetcorner for food and King Scholong comes by and offers you sausage at his house. GO!

Then there is a list of shots and scenes: missionary, reverse cowgirl, oral, etc, in scenes like "threesome with mailman" and "girl/girl with the daughter"

I figure what, two pages? Its not like they write script, they give them characters and say "GO!"

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I think the Star-Wipe dissolving into the guy's anus is a particularly genius bit of writing.

Posted by: ace at November 19, 2018 04:06 PM (PbpT7)

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Put it in my incontinent butt again, like a woodpecker on fur pine baby!

Posted by: Clam Man at November 19, 2018 04:06 PM (VpIIl)

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I've watched some of the "pron" it seems like modern stuff has literally no dialog at all. At most, the director asks the 19 year old about herself. "I'm 19, I've been in the biz for 2 months and I love it. The first time I was with a guy, I was 12..." "wow 12 huh" "yeah, you could say I was a slut"

and scene.
Posted by: billionaires

Fake Casting Couch Director.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2018 04:06 PM (2El4P)

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I see someone has seen Salad Tossers 6.
Ace...looking at you now...

PG: "I'm not sure how to respond to that. There's an Irish guy working tonight..."

Posted by: You asked at November 19, 2018 04:07 PM (Z04f8)

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As I said in the last thread, if she wasn't a fucking dope, she'd do a porn parody of the entire Kavanaugh nomination process. The devious Bart O'Kavanaugh and his never ending rape parade, opposed only by the hero we deserve, Lil' Mikey Avenatti and the long dick of the law.

Starring Nina Hartley as Kyrsten Ballsucker-Fjord and James Deen as Mike Basta.

The first Star Trek movie. That movie oozed sex. If Roddenberry could have gotten away with it, there would have been at least two explicit scenes in it, judging from his novelization.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at November 19, 2018 04:06 PM (iypsv)

Damn that Trump for ruining the career of a truly gifted filmmaker whose only wish was that we could all share in her visions of blow jobs and anal.

Sniff!

Posted by: Cheri at November 19, 2018 04:09 PM (oiNtH)

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I have some sympathy for some porn starlettes. They get used up pretty hard and thrown aside. It seems like almost all of them were abused as children. Then there are girls like the one that Charlie Sheen gave AIDS to, as he does. I think most of them feel pretty trapped in their role and once you're in the industry too far, where else do you go?

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You rubes don't get it! Porn isn't about the orgasm, it's about the emotion! You gotta keep 'em glued to their seats even after they blow their wad. It's art!

Posted by: Jack Horner at November 19, 2018 04:09 PM (oZ6kz)

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I hear Stormy's been trying to reach Avenatti, but the phone booth he was using just got torn down...

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 04:09 PM (miE9U)

77"I had no idea what I was getting myself into," she told the audience, referring to the ongoing scandal.

You thought you could make a sensational, sex-based charge against someone who was running for POTUS, a someone who just so happens to be a decades-long media personality in his own right and known internationally, and consequently a someone with vast financial resources at his disposal (something you obviously knew about), and that it would all just go swimingly for you?

You certainly found the right career path.

Posted by: DocJ at November 19, 2018 04:10 PM (NYS7S)

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>>>67 33 Are we all just ignoring that the Oxford Union Debating Society apparently thought it was a good idea to bring Stormy Daniels in to talk?

I didn't notice, actually. I bleeped over that part.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Posted by: ace at November 19, 2018 04:10 PM (PbpT7)

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Yeah, I bet this whole affair has really hurt her reputation at the Oxford Debate Society too.

85Back in the 80's, you actually had plots.
Most pornos had 4 or 5 sex scenes of about 10 min and the rest of the film was filled out with...movie stuff. Some of it was pretty good, like the John Leslie-directed stuff.

MOST of that is gone now. I don't know if the Stormy-directed stuff has relationship building scenes and setup or not.

I've got a reasonably substantial collection of 70's and 80's movies. They were actually movies with plot, dialog and acting. Some were downright entertaining.

Posted by: Sponge at November 19, 2018 04:10 PM (F4u7C)

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Never seen porn, Just seen sexy bits of undress in film. I would imagine that a porn version of a great written classic might be kind of interesting, "It is far, far better thing I do than I have ever done before...." However, I imagine porn takes itself way too seriously to be amusing in a way that some literature is,

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Are we all just ignoring that the Oxford Union Debating Society apparently thought it was a good idea to bring Stormy Daniels in to talk?

I didn't notice, actually. I bleeped over that part.

Thanks for pointing that out.
Posted by: ace

Think of how many people have been banned from Britain. And they let her in.

Posted by: Blue Hen at November 19, 2018 04:11 PM (Z04f8)

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Then there are the movies that are supposed to be serious art but are just porn with a bigger budget, like Nymphomaniac and 9 1/2 Songs. Full on porn down to the money shot, but shown in art theaters.

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Never seen porn, Just seen sexy bits of undress in film. I would imagine that a porn version of a great written classic might be kind of interesting, "It is far, far better thing I do than I have ever done before...." However, I imagine porn takes itself way too seriously to be amusing in a way that some literature is,
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CLOSE UP SHOT AS ORANGE MAN ENTERS ROOM:Orange Man: You shlong her first Barack, I'll follow in about 8 years.BARACK ENTERS HILLARY:Barack: I am thinking of your husband.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2018 04:12 PM (r+sAi)

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Who is Stormy kidding when she says she's against violence against woman? I spanked that flabby ass every chance I got and she loved it, cried out for more. I also made her eat my ass and she loved that too!

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She fucked up a career in porn and stripping, so original. There are 1001 ways to flame out of the sex industry none of them are good for you. The crash and burn for her was just a matter of time. I see an OD in her future. Sad. She should repent and find a real job before this one kills her.

We all know what Lady Macbeth was trying to wash off her hands too. It wasn't blood.

Posted by: Flyguy at November 19, 2018 04:13 PM (3sOO0)

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82 70 I think most of them feel pretty trapped in their role and once you're in the industry too far, where else do you go?
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Chipotle is hiring.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 19, 2018 04:10 PM (2LelM)

Speaking of shitshows...

Posted by: Insomniac at November 19, 2018 04:13 PM (NWiLs)

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Pretty sure domestic abuse is not a firing offense in the Dem party. Look at Sherrod Brown or Keith Ellison....

Posted by: 18-1 at November 19, 2018 04:10 PM (eSx+E)

When we beat our women, they stay in line and vote Demo!

Posted by: Brown and Ellison, keeping their women in line since 1988 at November 19, 2018 04:13 PM (UsCnO)

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Never seen porn, Just seen sexy bits of undress in film. I would imagine that a porn version of a great written classic might be kind of interesting, "It is far, far better thing I do than I have ever done before...." However, I imagine porn takes itself way too seriously to be amusing in a way that some literature is,
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

"Once more into the breach, once more, lest we fill it........

Posted by: The ancient bard had to make the rent too at November 19, 2018 04:13 PM (Z04f8)

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I read somewhere about a company that would go into homes that were being built and shown for real estate, and do a film there while nobody was around. Fully dressed and staged homes, bedding, etc.

Stormy Daniels: Donald Trump 'completely destroyed' my porn screenwriting career.
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The headline at Town Hall just said "career." She was traveling around to titty bars, being a "headliner." the last report I saw, she chucked a guy's wallet in his face for some infraction. That's her "career": doing table dances at Roxy's in Sauget, Illinois.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 19, 2018 04:14 PM (ty7RM)

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Stormy also said Trump cut into her musical career of film soundtracks.

Posted by: Roy at November 19, 2018 04:14 PM (9rXxD)

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That's the thing about a shark. They got black eyes, lifeless eyes, like a dolls eyes! Now fuck me hard!!

Posted by: Stormy Daniels at November 19, 2018 04:14 PM (sf1AO)

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113 She fucked up a career in porn and stripping, so original. There are 1001 ways to flame out of the sex industry none of them are good for you. The crash and burn for her was just a matter of time. I see an OD in her future. Sad. She should repent and find a real job before this one kills her.

Stormy Daniels: Donald Trump 'completely destroyed' my porn screenwriting career.
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The headline at Town Hall just said "career." She was traveling around to titty bars, being a "headliner." the last report I saw, she chucked a guy's wallet in his face for some infraction. That's her "career": doing table dances at Roxy's in Sauget, Illinois.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 19, 2018 04:14 PM (ty7RM)

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Another bit I read was a porn producer complaining that nobody buys full length bits any more, they just download a 5-10 minute scene at a time. Usually for free, since the Internet Is For Porn, as Avenue Q taught us.

She should get Acosta's judge so she can start shooting porn at the White House.

Posted by: t-bird at November 19, 2018 04:15 PM (Z1eux)

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Stormy has nuance. She inserts bits of both the Appolonian and Dionysian. Her framing of double penetration is Kubruckian in its attention to detail. Can you not see how the woman being railed by two dicks at once is a veiled metaphor for the dual pressures of being both mother goddess and sex devil forced upon her by the unflinching forces of patriarchal globalization?

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No wonder she is in porn. Unsuitable for any other career other than getting her holes reamed.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 19, 2018 04:16 PM (NuA1h)

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Ironically an aging porn star invited to speak at a meeting of the Oxford Union debating society would be an excellent plot line for a porn movie.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at November 19, 2018 04:12 PM (TAmPV)
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That is true. And she would never think of it.

Its kind of sad, really, because a girl like Ginger Lynn who was in porn was in some small bits like the Wing Commander game, and she did pretty good. Its not like none of them could ever POSSIBLY act, or that Hollywood is somehow too pure and moral to permit a porn actress in their midst. I don't understand the wall of division at all.

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149 Stormy has nuance. She inserts bits of both the Appolonian and Dionysian. Her framing of double penetration is Kubruckian in its attention to detail. Can you not see how the woman being railed by two dicks at once is a veiled metaphor for the dual pressures of being both mother goddess and sex devil forced upon her by the unflinching forces of patriarchal globalization?
Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at November 19, 2018 04:15 PM (oZ6kz)

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She fucked up a career in porn and stripping, so original. There are
1001 ways to flame out of the sex industry none of them are good for
you.

Yeah, but how many people can claim that the President of the United States destroyed their porn careers? Like....one?

Posted by: tu3031 at November 19, 2018 04:17 PM (sf1AO)

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With all the money Stormy now owed PDT's lawyers, she'll be workin' the pole 'til she's 80. THAT'LL be fun to watch...
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I think not. She really has an unfortunate body. Sloppy fake cans, a "slab" gut, presumably w/baby damage, and a lot of sag elsewhere.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 19, 2018 04:17 PM (ty7RM)

162guess she has to do the stormy vs the 300 movies.
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 04:16 PM (MTjB1)

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Poor Stormy. She hitched her star to CPL and failed miserably and now she wants what? Pity?

Didn't see her daughter for 4 months while running around the country according to her soon to be ex-husband and even had plans to take her daughter on the road with her next porn adventure which her husband petitioned the court to stop and he is asking for full custody. I hope her daughter has good people around her as she grows up and learns about mom's career.

It's fast, if not "easy", money but it absolutely takes years off their lives and they're pretty much out of work by, at most, the time they hit 25. Then what? Who knows. There's literally 100's of videos of you doing all sorts of stuff out there for anyone to see. How do you manage a "normal" life after that?

The stats I saw about the girls who go into pron are along the lines of 60% were sexually abused (it's 25% for the population as a whole), and of those way more than half were abused by a family member. Nearly 2/3 admit to having "Daddy Issues". They're a mess, and the lure of the quick money and "glamor" (yeah, it's perceived that way to some 18-19 year olds) are a very attractive way out.

The people who pimp them deserve a very, very special place in hell.

Posted by: DocJ at November 19, 2018 04:18 PM (NYS7S)

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Never about humor. Porn is for fantasizing, and wish fulfillment.
Posted by: kraken at N

so the ont is porn?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 04:18 PM (MTjB1)

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guess she has to do the stormy vs the 300 movies.
Posted by: yankeefifth

After appearing as: The Guns of Navarone!

Posted by: The ancient bard had to make the rent too at November 19, 2018 04:18 PM (Z04f8)

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> Once you do porn, you have almost no chance at any other career.

Didn't Sylvester Stallone do some porn early on?

Maybe he's the exception.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 19, 2018 04:20 PM (vOkuK)

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Resolved, Stormy is an old horse faced whore with bad fake tits and a so-so mom bod...discuss:

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at November 19, 2018 04:20 PM (7J5t2)

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>>The people who pimp them deserve a very, very special place in hell.

And people like Kim Kardashian who leveraged a home porno into a career. A lot of these idiots think they pull off the same trick.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2018 04:20 PM (W+vEI)

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The headline at Town Hall just said "career." She was traveling around to titty bars, being a "headliner." the last report I saw, she chucked a guy's wallet in his face for some infraction. That's her "career": doing table dances at Roxy's in Sauget, Illinois.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 19, 2018 04:14 PM (ty7RM)

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A pron actress taking on a multi billionaire, popular President had negative ramifications for her career. Who could have possibly seen that coming?

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Its kind of sad, really, because a girl like Ginger Lynn who was in porn was in some small bits like the Wing Commander game,
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I think she's one of the few survivors. IIRC, she married a (low-level) producer for direct to video movies, and he got her legit roles.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 19, 2018 04:21 PM (ty7RM)

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like Kim Kardashian who leveraged a home porno into a career. A lot of these idiots think they pull off the same trick.
Posted by: Lizzy at N

well, the need to have their mom manage their career and shoot the porn.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 04:21 PM (MTjB1)

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Oh I dunno - Ginger Lynn Allen did a good job in Wing Commander III and WC Prophecy.

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...at the end it just cuts to a lone fapper. Who appears to be injured.

Posted by: Jerry at November 19, 2018 04:22 PM (4AIdF)

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> Ginger Lynn Allen did a good job in Wing Commander III and WC Prophecy.

She was super cute in her younger days.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 19, 2018 04:22 PM (vOkuK)

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Any parent who gets their kid into porn should be beaten within an inch of their life.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 19, 2018 04:22 PM (VpIIl)

208or that Hollywood is somehow too pure and moral to permit a porn actress in their midst. I don't understand the wall of division at all.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 19, 2018 04:17 PM (39g3+)

Especially since it's become increasingly chic for mainstream actresses to push the envelope by getting more and more graphic in regards to simulated sex on-screen. Down to doing simulated pop-shots.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 19, 2018 04:22 PM (veoSD)

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Ya know, when you take it upon yourself to destroy a presidency, to remove someone whom 60+million people voted for? F#$@ your destroyed life. You did this to yourself.

Posted by: Lizzy

Still waiting for unfunny hack Tom Arnold and all of his supposed recorded tapes showing Trump as a racist and misogynist. Related, glad to see the Roseanne show tanked without its star. Karma.

Posted by: Cheri at November 19, 2018 04:22 PM (oiNtH)

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196 So a porn actress can't go to vocational school, after she quits... did not know that.

Well, nothing stopping them. Except that their classmates are among the general population perhaps more likely than not to have seen her previous, uh, work. Which could be... disruptive. Eh?

Posted by: DocJ at November 19, 2018 04:22 PM (NYS7S)

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O'l Stormy was at the Lumberyard in Des Moines earlier this fall, mostly attended frat boys for the "I was there" and the "beer was cheap" factor.

Posted by: IP at November 19, 2018 04:23 PM (/hTUk)

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#128 You'll have to get your wife the following one to complete her/your collection, IP

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077300/?ref_=tt_urv

[safe for work]

Posted by: andycanuck at November 19, 2018 04:23 PM (Evws/)

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195 Oh I dunno - Ginger Lynn Allen did a good job in Wing Commander III and WC Prophecy.

But then went back to her roots, alas.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at November 19, 2018 04:21 PM (Uiz/V)

R. Bolla was good in the first "Spiderman" movie. Nice guy in real life too.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2018 04:23 PM (/9p9e)

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209 Still waiting for unfunny hack Tom Arnold and all of his supposed recorded tapes showing Trump as a racist and misogynist. Related, glad to see the Roseanne show tanked without its star. Karma.
Posted by: Cheri at November 19, 2018 04:22 PM (oiNtH)

223
some girl who was in porn gave an interview where she said something along the lines of "well, you make good money but you are getting fucked. so if you do not mind getting fucked lots it is good."

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>>Still waiting for unfunny hack Tom Arnold and all of his supposed recorded tapes showing Trump as a racist and misogynist. Related, glad to see the Roseanne show tanked without its star. Karma.

Did you see that the ABC network head who was so swift to cancel Rosanne just announced she's resigning after less than 2 years. Channing Dungey. Buh-byeeee!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2018 04:24 PM (W+vEI)

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191 No, really you don't have to drink toilet water and lick the bowl clean. It's really not necessary and you won't get paid extra.
Posted by: literally serious at November 19, 2018 04:21 PM (B9BVe)

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226 >>Still waiting for unfunny hack Tom Arnold and all of his supposed recorded tapes showing Trump as a racist and misogynist. Related, glad to see the Roseanne show tanked without its star. Karma.

Did you see that the ABC network head who was so swift to cancel Rosanne just announced she's resigning after less than 2 years. Channing Dungey. Buh-byeeee!
Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2018 04:24 PM (W+vEI)

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So a porn actress can't go to vocational school, after she quits... did not know that.

Well, nothing stopping them. Except that their classmates are among the general population perhaps more likely than not to have seen her previous, uh, work. Which could be... disruptive. Eh?
Posted by: DocJ

And facial recognition technology is going to make this worse.

Remember that selfie that got loose, was uploaded/hacked and posted? It can and will get spotted, run through this and cross referenced with Facebook and ta-da! That supposedly lost picture now has a name and contact information attached.

Posted by: The ancient bard had to make the rent too at November 19, 2018 04:25 PM (Z04f8)

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I thought David Duchovney was in porn before he landed the X-Files.

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286 Is there a market for porn films of, say, less than 90 seconds?
Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2018 04:31 PM (MVjcR)

Cuck Cruise orgy secret tapes?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2018 04:32 PM (/9p9e)

298 The real money for the pornettes is not in the actual porn, it's in the "escort" and strip club circuit. The internet has so increased the supply of hot young pornettes that there's not much money.

But the A-listers, the top tier, can make damn good money "escorting" (millionaires with more more money than sense paying $10K a pop for a "date" with a top porn star).

And likewise, the A-list can pull hefty fees for appearances in strip clubs.

It's only the A-list, though. The porn is just basically advertising themselves for the above, now.

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>>>The real money for the pornettes is not in the actual porn, it's in the "escort" and strip club circuit. The internet has so increased the supply of hot young pornettes that there's not much money.

But the A-listers, the top tier, can make damn good money "escorting" (millionaires with more more money than sense paying $10K a pop for a "date" with a top porn star).

...

that's what I hear, the porn is just advertisement of services.

I also hear that porn doesn't actually make any money, but is "invested" in by the mob to show phony profits and thereby launder profits from illegal ventures.

Aside from being a horrible tune, the title of "Come On Eileen" is also problematic.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2018 04:34 PM (/9p9e)

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Anyone else see Sense8 on Netflix? Eight characters, and of course, two are gay. The female character involves a lesbian sex scene, complete with a close up of the sex toy being discarded. This is part of a supposed SF/thriller show.

Posted by: The ancient bard had to make the rent too at November 19, 2018 04:34 PM (Z04f8)

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Well, harumph, what the industry needs is a good strong union and collective bargaining.....

Posted by: kraken at November 19, 2018 04:34 PM (ffWPP)

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What a sad sad state when a worthless pos like that is hosted by the Oxford Union.

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Anyone else see Sense8 on Netflix? Eight characters, and of course, two are gay. The female character involves a lesbian sex scene, complete with a close up of the sex toy being discarded. This is part of a supposed SF/thriller show.

====

yeah, just garbage SJW WArshowski bro...err...siblings ramblings.

could not, would not watch past the floppy, dripping wet strap on dildo on the floor. so brave and stunning.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at November 19, 2018 04:36 PM (7J5t2)

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>>>well, that's the thing....there's only about 4-6 real male pron stars and they make all the money because they all produce the stuff.

well they make their money in gay porn.

Posted by: ace at November 19, 2018 04:38 PM (PbpT7)

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310 >>>The real money for the pornettes is not in the actual porn, it's in the "escort" and strip club circuit. The internet has so increased the supply of hot young pornettes that there's not much money.

But the A-listers, the top tier, can make damn good money "escorting" (millionaires with more more money than sense paying $10K a pop for a "date" with a top porn star).

...

that's what I hear, the porn is just advertisement of services.

I also hear that porn doesn't actually make any money, but is "invested" in by the mob to show phony profits and thereby launder profits from illegal ventures.

Posted by: ace at November 19, 2018 04:34 PM (PbpT7)

Getting close to my wheelhouse here.

Some porn is very, very lucrative. The problem is, there's so much of it. The shelf life for most girls is about 6 months.

Some girls escort as well, but a lot of full-time porn stars will shut you. Since getting good jobs and well-paying roles is very much based on relationships and who you know (or blow), that's no small thing.

Same with strippers. Some strip and do porn. Some strip and escort. Both keep it on the DL and away from the strip clubs.

Then you have people making cartoon porn or hot girls that do 'let's play' on Twitch or whatever. Some of them are pulling down over 10k a month from fans via Patron or tips.

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348 I remember Ron Jeremy talking about it, guys were asking him how to get in the business. He said basically you may as well ask metallica how to get into the band.
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So Metallica is a gateway to pron?

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 19, 2018 04:39 PM (2LelM)

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Didn't Traci Lords do at least one cameo on Married With Children?

359Anyone else see Sense8 on Netflix? Eight characters, and of course, two are gay. The female character involves a lesbian sex scene, complete with a close up of the sex toy being discarded. This is part of a supposed SF/thriller show.

====

yeah, just garbage SJW WArshowski bro...err...siblings ramblings.

could not, would not watch past the floppy, dripping wet strap on dildo on the floor. so brave and stunning.
Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at November 19, 2018 04:36 PM (7J5t2)

Sense8 was an interesting idea ruined by the Watchowski Brothers' need to work out their family issues in front of everyone.

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344 >>>well, that's the thing....there's only about 4-6 real male pron stars and they make all the money because they all produce the stuff.

well they make their money in gay porn.
Posted by: ace at November 19, 2018 04:38 PM (PbpT7)

Jah. Guys get paid jack shit for straight porn. The money is in being a producer or doing 'gay for pay'.

There used to be a few 'hired guns' in the pre-viagra days who worked a LOT (Peter North, Nick East, Randy West did a whole lot of work).

Now with the blue pills or direct penis injections, they can cast buff guys who are pretty disposable. Most of them get into the business by having a really hot girlfriend they get into porn and sorta follow in on her apron strings.

For enough PayPal funds, some of these women will have themselves freeze-dried and mailed to you.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 04:43 PM (miE9U)

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There's a youtuber named It'sAGundam who says that one of the Twitch thots, the girls who just show their boobs and butts and stuff, a girl named "Amouranth," makes 40-60 thousand PER MONTH off her patreon alone for sending pay pigs "lewd and nude" pictures.

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Sense8 was an interesting idea ruined by the Watchowski Brothers' need to work out their family issues in front of everyone.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile

I started watching with my wife, commenting that such capabilities and the problems that can arise are a staple in SF. Then came the gratuitous stuff in the first 15 minutes. Followed by the sanitized version of San Francisco pride parades.

No thanks.

Posted by: The ancient bard had to make the rent too at November 19, 2018 04:44 PM (Z04f8)

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I think the point was that no matter what on earth you did or do, you're not getting into metallica.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at November 19, 2018 04:44 PM (7J5t2)

He got in, then got out, then got in, then got out, then got in, then got out.....

Posted by: Sponge at November 19, 2018 04:45 PM (F4u7C)

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374 There's a youtuber named It'sAGundam who says that one of the Twitch thots, the girls who just show their boobs and butts and stuff, a girl named "Amouranth," makes 40-60 thousand PER MONTH off her patreon alone for sending pay pigs "lewd and nude" pictures.

Posted by: ace at November 19, 2018 04:43 PM (PbpT7)

Amouranth is very, very cute. If she's pulling down that much cheddar, I wouldn't be surprised.

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"There's a youtuber named It'sAGundam who says that one of the Twitch thots, the girls who just show their boobs and butts and stuff, a girl named "Amouranth," makes 40-60 thousand PER MONTH off her patreon alone for sending pay pigs "lewd and nude" pictures.

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Uhhhh, no. Having a high sex drive is not the same as being a perfectly normal male. There are sex addiction groups and there are therapists who specialize in this. There was one that met at my old church. I knew one fellow in it. He did things that damaged his life and destroyed his marriage and he got venereal disease because of his preoccupation with illicit sexual encounters. There is porn addiction too-not a normal male thing.

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>>>394 So what's up with women allowing men to pee into their vaginas?
Posted by: Jerry Seinfeld

Seinfeld's new material is different from his old stuff.

Posted by: ace at November 19, 2018 04:48 PM (PbpT7)

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lol, best part of the kardashian sex tape was where the directors cut shows when the mom smacks her across the face for crying about not wanting to do anal then yells "get out of the way, let me show you how to take a dick. quit your crying and watch this"

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 04:48 PM (MTjB1)

404
Well hang.
It's not raining so I'm out to put up Christmas lights before Mrs D chews my ass.

And not in a good way.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 19, 2018 04:49 PM (0tfLf)

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400 That was phrased wrong-Having a high sex drive is not the same as being a sex addict.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2018 04:49 PM (AllCR)

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>>>He did things that damaged his life and destroyed his marriage and he got venereal disease because of his preoccupation with illicit sexual encounters.

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some people DO still pay for porn.... huh... the things I learn here......
Posted by: kraken at N

well, the voted for hillary too.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 04:49 PM (MTjB1)

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I also hear that porn doesn't actually make any money, but is "invested" in by the mob to show phony profits and thereby launder profits from illegal ventures.

Posted by: ace at November 19, 2018 04:34 PM (PbpT7)

Not just porn movies are laundering operations. A high school friend of mine who now has a television commercial production company in the Midwest worked in LA for several years as a cameraman-for-hire for some of the smaller studios making straight-to-video fare. He was young at the time and thought it was pretty awesome.

According to him, there were several instances where budget was inflated for what he guessed was a laundering scheme. He didn't ask any questions, just took his pay for the job and kept his mouth shut. Keeping his mouth shut seemed the wisest course given the kind of people who do laundering schemes.

OT because it's not porn, but I thought of another thing that might be good to read from the Bible-the Letter to the Phillipians. As you know it's a very joyful book, full of gratitude and very helpful for a spirit of thanksgiving.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2018 04:51 PM (AllCR)

419So what's up with women allowing men to pee into their vaginas?
Posted by: Jerry Seinfeld at November 19, 2018 04:47 PM (B9BVe)

Hey, it's not their fault. Sometimes I forget which is which.

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 19, 2018 04:51 PM (/qEW2)

420
Looked up Amourath, yeah she's cute but there are girls just as cute that do free cosplay porn on all the usual 'tube sites, plus exhibitionist thots on cgl or other chan hellholes, not to mention actual 3D girls at actual conventions who are just as thirsty and riddled with daddy issues.

The personalized part of it is a mystery to me why anybody would care. You gonna pay $2,000 bucks to see Jaws if Spielberg says Hi to you at the start of it?

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The White House and our Dear Leader has surrendered to CNN
The press pass will be returned permanently
I think he knows that people are beginning to smell a bad odor after he has continually dissed our militarry
Posted by: Disabled at N

you have read this far down the thread yet you still think trolling is the best way for someone with your skills to make money?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 04:51 PM (MTjB1)

422
All kinds of things are used for money laundering. Bodegas, restaurants.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 19, 2018 04:52 PM (NWiLs)

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There was an article a while back that published the pay scale. The women are paid on what they do. "Extreme anal" was at the top.

But the dudes get paid the same low rate, no matter what hole they put in it.

Posted by: publius

I don't think that I want to know what 'extreme anal' is.

Posted by: Cheri at November 19, 2018 04:52 PM (oiNtH)

424I also hear that porn doesn't actually make any money, but is "invested" in by the mob to show phony profits and thereby launder profits from illegal ventures.

That actually makes sense, I mean who would buy something that is so common and free you can barely navigate the internet without finding oceans of it?

So will strippers. But I guess incels have trouble leaving the basement.

The lure of the 'grill gamer' is gone - I rarely meet a girl now who DOESN'T game. And none of my aspie friends are aware of any Twitch thots who are actually good enough gamers that I'd be even mildly intrigued.

OT because it's not porn, but I thought of another thing that might be good to read from the Bible-the Letter to the Phillipians. As you know it's a very joyful book, full of gratitude and very helpful for a spirit of thanksgiving.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2018 04:51 PM (AllCR)

Thanks, Fen....I reread the Bible yearly..... keeps me from shallowing out too badly. I John is a favorite too... I'm a mixed bag kinda guy ( as you might gather from my comments here... I suspect I'm not alone in this). Still, I know who I follow, in a fallible way.

Posted by: kraken at November 19, 2018 04:55 PM (ffWPP)

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I have dipped my toes into the pron world a time or two but it gets deep and scary and evil eventually.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, 20% cleaner at November 19, 2018 04:53 PM (bcbK

I like my porn G-rated. I don't watch the extreme stuff and have no interest in it. Some people are into weird shit.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2018 04:55 PM (NFEMn)

445
Disabled you have a sad sad life. Trolling a comment section full of morons. I'm disabled as well but my life is no where near as sad as yours. Get a better job man. some self respect too.

446
These young Thots dressing and acting like whores for attention and sex won't end well for them or the men they snare. I had a long conversation with the significant other about it last night. It's getting annoying as fuck in real life. They are becoming too aggressive.

I have dipped my toes into the pron world a time or two but it gets deep and scary and evil eventually.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, 20% cleaner at N

may or may not have had some weird investment opportunities that may or may not have included porn cross my desk. whatever the return could never get involved in furthering the venture of benefiting from exploiting someone that way.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 04:56 PM (MTjB1)

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434 A troll in the porn thread..only at the HQ
Posted by: IC at November 19, 2018 04:54 PM (a0IVu)

Yes, first John is very nice. I think it's great you re-read the Bible, and we're all fallible in our own way.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2018 04:57 PM (AllCR)

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So will strippers. But I guess incels have trouble leaving the basement.

Hey, I resent that! Basements aren't feasible in Florida.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 19, 2018 04:57 PM (NWiLs)

454
"These young Thots dressing and acting like whores for attention and sex won't end well for them or the men they snare. I had a long conversation with the significant other about it last night. It's getting annoying as fuck in real life. They are becoming too aggressive.

Posted by: literally serious at November 19, 2018 04:55 PM (B9BVe) "

The Twitch ones who just humor incels and make bank will be fine if they don't blow all their money. All the money of porn without the drug culture and only 50% of the soul crushing.

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The personalized part of it is a mystery to me why anybody would care. You gonna pay $2,000 bucks to see Jaws if Spielberg says Hi to you at the start of it?
Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at November 19, 2018 04:51 PM (oZ6kz)

You think you're joking, but you bet your life there are people who would pay $2k a ticket if Spielberg or Lucas said 'hi' to them.

Nobody ever went broke underestimating what people will pay for sex or fame-by-transference.

464The personalized part of it is a mystery to me why anybody would care. You gonna pay $2,000 bucks to see Jaws if Spielberg says Hi to you at the start of it?

I think you could find more than a few film geeks who would pay that kind of scratch to get a personalized message from Spielberg on their copy of Jaws.

I'm not trying to be harsh, but I think you're being obtuse. If you're a 400 lb shut-in with anxiety issues who gets ignored by every single woman your age +/- 10 years, I could see how a personalized message from a hot cosplay girl would turn your crank.

Hell, I'm a reasonably attractive married guy who had success with the ladies and if a hot 20 something woman paid me a compliment on my appearance that would probably make my week.

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"I'm not trying to be harsh, but I think you're being obtuse. If you're a 400 lb shut-in with anxiety issues who gets ignored by every single woman your age +/- 10 years, I could see how a personalized message from a hot cosplay girl would turn your crank.

Hell, I'm a reasonably attractive married guy who had success with the ladies and if a hot 20 something woman paid me a compliment on my appearance that would probably make my week.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 19, 2018 04:58 PM (9qZ3S) "

A real compliment, yeah. A paid compliment isn't a compliment. If you're that level of delusional, just watch some amateur POV cosplay porn on Pornhub and pretend she's talking to you.

Because I spent a lot of my life as a 250-ish pound shut in with anxiety issues, but not a dumb one willing to light money on fire for a small fake self-esteem boost. If I wanted to spend stupid amounts of money on fake happiness, that's what pills are for.

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"You think you're joking, but you bet your life there are people who would pay $2k a ticket if Spielberg or Lucas said 'hi' to them.

Nobody ever went broke underestimating what people will pay for sex or fame-by-transference.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, 20% cleaner

Anyone else remember the 1960s version of Fahrenheit 451? The wife was glued to the TV because tonight was "her night". The characters on TV just ranted, with some intervals where they turned to the camera and pretended to be talking to her.

It unglued her and she attempted suicide. I don't recall what was worse; the aftermath of the show, or the business like attitude of the medical team that revived her.

Posted by: The ancient bard had to make the rent too at November 19, 2018 05:02 PM (Z04f8)

"Yacht girls". There was some controversy that Queen Latizia of Spain was actually a yacht girl in her younger days.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at November 19, 2018 05:01 PM (f1Vqw)

Megan Markle.

Frankly a LOT of girls with a name but no film roles are making a living off real or thinly-veiled prostitution.

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>>>Your marriage was destroyed because of illcit sexual encounters and you have had VD?.

nah I was just being flippant. No offense intended.

Although one time I had sex with some girl where I was thinking "This is a huge mistake, I can feel bacteria swimming up my pee-hole" even during it, which really kills the mood, and caused it to take forever.

I got tested like two days later. (I was fine, but it wasn't cool, and I thought "Okay, I'm not doing that ever again.")

Posted by: ace at November 19, 2018 05:03 PM (PbpT7)

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454 "These young Thots dressing and acting like whores for attention and sex won't end well for them or the men they snare. I had a long conversation with the significant other about it last night. It's getting annoying as fuck in real life. They are becoming too aggressive.

Posted by: literally serious at November 19, 2018 04:55 PM (B9BVe) "

The Twitch ones who just humor incels and make bank will be fine if they don't blow all their money. All the money of porn without the drug culture and only 50% of the soul crushing.
Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at November 19, 2018 04:57 PM (oZ6kz)

I literally meant young girls in real life. It's super annoying as fuck. The bending over right in your face in your personal space repeatedly in see through yoga pants whirl you try and work out. I'm not there to give these thirsty attention whores anything. I want to be left alone so I can get done and get home to my girlfriend. They will fuck around with the wrong dude and get raped and/or pregnant.

Everything is backwards. I hate Marxism.

Posted by: literally serious at November 19, 2018 05:04 PM (B9BVe)

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479 "You think you're joking, but you bet your life there are people who would pay $2k a ticket if Spielberg or Lucas said 'hi' to them.

Nobody ever went broke underestimating what people will pay for sex or fame-by-transference.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, 20% cleaner

Anyone else remember the 1960s version of Fahrenheit 451? The wife was glued to the TV because tonight was "her night". The characters on TV just ranted, with some intervals where they turned to the camera and pretended to be talking to her.

It unglued her and she attempted suicide. I don't recall what was worse; the aftermath of the show, or the business like attitude of the medical team that revived her.
Posted by: The ancient bard had to make the rent too at November 19, 2018 05:02 PM (Z04f

Was that the 'Playhouse 90' live version?
They used to make some pretty cool/crazy stuff.

But pron nowadays is pretty fragmented. There's a niche for nearly everything. And some of it is pretty and nice. The 'couples' stuff and the 'nubiles' I mentioned earlier isn't softcore but it isn't violent and the girls aren't tattooed silicone sisters.

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485 Look, I've already basically given up on love. I'm trying to not completely give up on life before my Jeopardy taping. This whole area of existence definitely isn't helping.
Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at November 19, 2018 05:04 PM (oZ6kz)

No such thing as love. It's all pair bonding. Work on fixing and finding that and you will be good.

Posted by: literally serious at November 19, 2018 05:07 PM (B9BVe)

492Was that the 'Playhouse 90' live version?
They used to make some pretty cool/crazy stuff.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, 20% cleaner

Seeking a lawyerJust as there are males trapped in female bodies, females trapped in male bodies etc, they are all recognized with rights. I feel I am a dog trapped in a human body. I seek a lawyer to help me become recognized as a dog with rights to be treated by a veterinarian, etc please. I am in Memphis, TN & can travel if needed.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 05:14 PM (miE9U)

506I literally meant young girls in real life. It's super annoying as fuck. The bending over right in your face in your personal space repeatedly in see through yoga pants whirl you try and work out. I'm not there to give these thirsty attention whores anything. I want to be left alone so I can get done and get home to my girlfriend. They will fuck around with the wrong dude and get raped and/or pregnant.

I actually had something like that happen to me the other day. I was on a stair climber because it's a fast way to burn off calories at the end of the workout. This woman in front of me with a fantastic butt is on an elliptical. She slows way down and starts really accentuating moving to one side and then the other. IOW she's showing off her rear. I lost focus and am now staring at her butt. After a few moments my eyes flick up and I see she's watching me in the reflection of her elliptical's control panel.

I stopped watching her and was profoundly embarrassed. Her pace goes back up to normal and I moved on to other things.

I've no idea why she did that. I'm guessing she thought it would be funny to mess with me.

Sixteen Democrats Sign Letter Vowing to Vote Against Nancy Pelosi's Bid To Become Speaker Again

A candidate for Speaker of the House needs 218 votes. Assuming all Republicans vote against Nancy Pelosi (an assumption we shouldn't make, because Trump claims he'll get Republicans to vote for Pelosi), then she can only afford to lose 15 Democrat votes out of the 233 they have.

Sixteen Democrats signed a letter stating they will vote against Pelosi, and three other Democrats have vowed to vote against her previously.

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I still remember fondly when she called Harry Reid "Comrade" during the W. Bush years. She's only gotten crazier since. I love that she'll have Trump's imprimatur all over her botoxed self if she manages to regain speakership. 'Twill be delicious watching the Dems fight amongst themselves.

Posted by: kathysaysso at November 19, 2018 03:07 PM (vkS2Z)

18
The stuttering-denture press conferences and intra-party sit-ins held by the millennial communists in her own corpulent caucus.

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at November 19, 2018 03:07 PM (0b+Xk)

19
I wonder where that crazy leftist Cindy Sheehan went. She would make a great roving reporter following pelosi.

23
Remember the mess when John Boehner stepped down. The R's finally had to rally around Paul Ryan but I don't think they ever were really unified. Looks like maybe a repeat of the same movie, just with the names changed.

28
I think all the Republicans should vote unanimously for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She might accidentally win if some Dems vote for her. That would be way more entertaining than Pelosi.

Posted by: Roy at November 19, 2018 03:08 PM (9rXxD)

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21 She needs to be speaker....she is so unhinged she will cost them votes in 2020.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman

She doesn't write a single thing in regards to legislation. Her staff, lobbists and the DNC write it all and tell her what to do.

Probably wouldn't change much if a new 'leader' was picked. Except if the new guy is a raging narcissist willing to destroy more things than the media can excuse away.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 19, 2018 03:07 PM (pnMCv)

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The point of getting her the post again would be to maintain her as the face of the Democratic Party for as long as possible.

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28 I think all the Republicans should vote unanimously for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She might accidentally win if some Dems vote for her. That would be way more entertaining than Pelosi.
Posted by: Roy at November 19, 2018 03:08 PM (9rXxD)

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We all know she's not grateful to those who help her, so she'd keep her insane side out in the open regardless of who helped her get the post.

I think the chance of making her Speakership illegitimate to many Democrats is a good thing.

Posted by: dDan at November 19, 2018 03:14 PM (hwYmz)

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45 As my civics education is a result of public school I take it there is no avenue for Republicans to steal the speakership our from under the Democrats?
Posted by: A feral duck at November 19, 2018 03:12 PM (iWQRf)

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Does Speaker need a clear majority of all members or just a plurality?

I think this may be why minority parties vote en masse for their own leadership, in the hopes of getting the Speakership from a fractured opposition. Maybe. I don't know, I just stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

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I posted on earlier post pelosi will protect trump from impeachment. Corporate establishment democrats take their orders from deep state alexandria ocasio-cortez does not. Establishment democrats protected nixon, reagan and both bush's from treason charges. republicans must vote for pelosi to protect trump from impeachment.

Posted by: ramondo at November 19, 2018 03:15 PM (I6idP)

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Vote her in. But I'm positive the Cucks will fuck up this opportunity to vote for the most insane and senile candidate.

Posted by: literally serious at November 19, 2018 03:15 PM (zZXDy)

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What the article apparently does not do is inform the reader as to who the nominees are for the speakership. Is it one Republican and one Democrat?

Here's the correct strategy, the ones the Dems use, and it's something the debate-club Right isn't really capable of.

Step 1 is the intellectual part, and happens behind closed doors. Settle on a damned governing strategy, for G-d's sake. Figure out where you want to take the initiative, and on what policies, and then demand pain-of-political-death Party discipline from all elected officials and Party proxies. No deviation from the plan in front of the public.

Step 2 is not even discussing specifics of the plan with the public. This is where the emotion comes in. Attack the Left, insult them, ridicule them, demonize them. Trump is good at this. At the same time, underscore your own connection to the voters at an emotional level. That you like them, care about them, and that your policies (such as they know about them) are conceived with their best interests at heart. Limbaugh is very good at this part.

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Nah, it'd be better to deny her the speakership if possible. Pelosi may be crazy, but she's experienced and effective within her own caucus. A less experienced hand might have more difficulty herding these cats and denying her the speakership could create grudges, feuds among the Dems.

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61 Nah, it'd be better to deny her the speakership if possible. Pelosi may be crazy, but she's experienced and effective within her own caucus. A less experienced hand might have more difficulty herding these cats and denying her the speakership could create grudges, feuds among the Dems.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 19, 2018 03:16 PM (H5knJ)

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The party's been out of power in the House for almost a decade and schisms have formed recently that are surprisingly large.

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NeverTrumpers Tom Nichols and Ben Howe Decide that Abortion Isn't a Compelling Reason to Vote for Trump over Abortion Absolutist Hillary Clinton, and That Christians Either Don't or Shouldn't Care So Much About Abortion

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You know, voting against Moloch and Baal themselves really isn't the Christian thing to do now that I think about it either.

I mean sure they are demons and all, but you realize Trump once actually had two scoops of ice cream at a meeting right? When other people only had...!1!

Here's the correct strategy, the ones the Dems use, and it's something the debate-club Right isn't really capable of.

Step 1 is the intellectual part, and happens behind closed doors. Settle on a damned governing strategy, for G-d's sake. Figure out where you want to take the initiative, and on what policies, and then demand pain-of-political-death Party discipline from all elected officials and Party proxies. No deviation from the plan in front of the public.

Step 2 is not even discussing specifics of the plan with the public. This is where the emotion comes in. Attack the Left, insult them, ridicule them, demonize them. Trump is good at this. At the same time, underscore your own connection to the voters at an emotional level. That you like them, care about them, and that your policies (such as they know about them) are conceived with their best interests at heart. Limbaugh is very good at this part.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at N

1. don't repost your own comments.
2. you are likely 180 degrees wrong. we do not need emotion to win we need very concise, indeed hyper concise, arguments that are based solely upon logic.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 03:18 PM (MTjB1)

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No one puts a scarf on my head but me. It's my choice--not my husband/brother's.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 19, 2018 03:17 PM (ffYR/) Loopy will have to have a sudden bout of suicide in Fort Marcy park before she shuts up about CAPITALISTS controlling HER Congress.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 19, 2018 03:19 PM (37IEG)

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63 In the abstract this is all very amusing, but let's not forget that whomever is picked is number 2 in the succession line, right after the Vice President.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at November 19, 2018 03:16 PM (kUmUV)

Yeah, that's a point. On the other hand, if the line of succession has reached down to the Speaker we might be too screwed to notice.

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It would be deliciously ironic for Pelosi to owe her position to Trump.

Still & all, it's to the advantage of both Trump & the Republicans to have Pelosi as SotH. Anyone else, even that fundamentally stupid person from New York's 14th congressional district, would be given the benefit of the doubt.

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65 Does the Speaker of the House actually have to be a *member* of the House? Is there some arcane, dusty, long forgotten loophole they could use to bring in some third-party whackadoodle?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 19, 2018 03:17 PM (AURKQ)

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Nothing in the Constitution that dictates it must be a member of the House.

That's why you had a handful of Republicans voting for Allen West (long after he left Congress) and Sarah Palin in the voting.

Still, ask leadership to whip for someone outside the House instead of one of their own and see how that works.

92Does the Speaker of the House actually have to be a *member* of the
House? Is there some arcane, dusty, long forgotten loophole they could
use to bring in some third-party whackadoodle?

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I nominate Benito Mussolini because no one better embodies what the Democrats stand for in 2018.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 19, 2018 03:19 PM (eSx+E)

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IIRC, leadership controls the committee assignments and designates office space, generally, but not always by seniority. So, yeah, enjoy being the Chairman of the House Subcommittee on Rectal Itch and the three hour trip from your office to the Capital.

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63 In the abstract this is all very amusing, but let's not forget that whomever is picked is number 2 in the succession line, right after the Vice President.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at November 19, 2018 03:16 PM (kUmUV)

Let's also not forget that, if such is the way they want to play the game, "we" (not "me", per se) can play that game too.

in other words, just because the top two pieces get toppled doesn't mean the next piece will stay standing too.

I don't want to play that game, but it is a game whose moves must be considered.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 19, 2018 03:20 PM (AURKQ)

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speaker does not have to be a representative, that is why some idiots have suggested beto shoul be speaker.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 03:20 PM (MTjB1)

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Can they just go ahead and make Ocasio-Cortex speaker? Go full retard

104She doesn't write a single thing in regards to legislation. Her staff, lobbists and the DNC write it all and tell her what to do.

Probably wouldn't change much if a new 'leader' was picked. Except if the new guy is a raging narcissist willing to destroy more things than the media can excuse away.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 19, 2018 03:07 PM (pnMCv)

This is what I was wondering. I thought that Pelosi was like an old appliance, fizzling out but periodically functional, whereas Occasional was more like a lump of granite, completely nonfunctional. Therefore it would be better to have Occasional as the new speaker.

But if the script is completely outside their hands as regards legislation and priorities, then it probably makes no difference which one of them is speaker.

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The creepiest thing about photogtraphs of Hippocampus-Cortex is the way her teeth follow you around the room.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 19, 2018 03:21 PM (XXadE)

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who cares if Trump helps pelosi win speaker? would throw the democrats into chaos.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 03:21 PM (MTjB1)

11128 I think all the Republicans should vote unanimously for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She might accidentally win if some Dems vote for her. That would be way more entertaining than Pelosi.
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"You like me!! You really like me!!'

Posted by: exdem13 at November 19, 2018 03:21 PM (Nk3Dy)

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Screw that. Have Romney vote for her. Either that or send in a few provisional ballots signed by Abe Lincoln and FDR.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 19, 2018 03:22 PM (VpIIl)

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The party's been out of power in the House for almost a decade and schisms have formed recently that are surprisingly large.

I'm not sure anyone will be able to herd those cats.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

As long as Pelosi remembers where all of the bodies are buried, she will be able to.

Number of Witches in U.S. on the Rise, May Surpass 1.5 Million ~ CNSnews.com

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2018 03:22 PM (2I4LM)

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73 So who do the defecting Dems want to see as Speaker?
Posted by: IC at November 19, 2018 03:18 PM (a0IVu)

Good question.

Posted by: m at November 19, 2018 03:22 PM (GkIz4)

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I hope the Democrats select Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She can't even name the three branches of government that I learned about in third grade civics. She's more useless than tits on a boar hog and dumber than a bag of hammers.

She'd be an excellent foil for Trump and would ensure that the GOP would take back the House in 2020. Maybe the GOP should vote for her to ensure this delicious outcome.

Pelosi wouldn't be as fun, but she'd still be an excellent radical foil for Trump. My fear is they'll vote for someone reasonable who doesn't screech like a bloodthirsty Marxist harpie.

Posted by: grizzledcoastie at November 19, 2018 03:22 PM (FMgad)

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But if the script is completely outside their hands as regards legislation and priorities, then it probably makes no difference which one of them is speaker.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2018 03:21 PM (/qEW2)

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NeverTrumpers Tom Nichols and Ben Howe Decide that Abortion Isn't a Compelling Reason to Vote for Trump over Abortion Absolutist Hillary Clinton, and That Christians Either Don't or Shouldn't Care So Much About Abortion

Yuppers, just ignore that Pelosi and Hillary are on record for abortion up to and somewhat after 'birth'. We should cast aside this and instead meekly be chatised for being the extremists who won't compromise.

Over the weekend, there is a woman from Ohio that has been mentioned a few times.

I didn't bother remembering her name, because this is all a dog-and-pony show for the Facebook under 25 crowd, who is too busy to learn the 3 branches of federal government are NOT the House, Senate, and White House. Because Mz Ed the talking horse, Mz Economics Degree, forgot that most important rule: Follow The Money.

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I think all the Republicans should vote unanimously for Alexandria
Ocasio-Cortez. She might accidentally win if some Dems vote for her.
That would be way more entertaining than Pelosi.

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Oh hell no. For the LOLs we should ask the Republicans to vote in a block for Ilhan Omar. The woman married her own brother as part of an immigration fraud scheme. She is the Platonic form of Dem craziness.

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Do you believe most moderate Democrats/LIVs/etc arrived at their current voting habits through reasoned logic?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 19, 2018 03:21 PM (eSx+E)

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Nope. Nor most moderate (R)s... if they cared so much about the mechanics and arcana of this stuff they'd have gone into the politicking business, or they'd be political junkies that hang out on blogs like this and talk shop about it all the time.

They care about who they perceive as caring about them, and who wants to hurt them. Trump understood that keenly.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 19, 2018 03:24 PM (AzW6q)

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What's important is that the speaker win the popular vote, otherwise it's not democracy!

Posted by: Ezra Little at November 19, 2018 03:24 PM (37IEG)

132As long as Pelosi remembers where all of the bodies are buried, she will be able to.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2018 03:22 PM (2El4P)

It seems the new class of democrats don't care if we know where the bodies are buried.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at November 19, 2018 03:24 PM (TAmPV)

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RealSaavedra's avatar
Ryan Saavedra
@RealSaavedra
BREAKING: Theresa Shook, the founder of the Women's March, has called on Linda Sarsour and Tamika Mallory to step down for allowing "anti-Semitism, anti-LBGTQIA sentiment and hateful, racist rhetoric to become a part of the platform"
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Hey they just found this out, Probaly in Bubba Clinton's Mams book

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Hmmm, Speaker is number three in succession, doesn't have to be a House member...

Posted by: Hillary at November 19, 2018 03:25 PM (kc+Bd)

137Doesn't happen very often anymore because whip operations are much more improved than they were in the 19th century.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, If you've read and enjoyed any of my works, please leave a review on Amazon. at November 19, 2018 03:12 PM

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133 RealSaavedra's avatar
Ryan Saavedra
@RealSaavedra
BREAKING: Theresa Shook, the founder of the Women's March, has called on Linda Sarsour and Tamika Mallory to step down for allowing "anti-Semitism, anti-LBGTQIA sentiment and hateful, racist rhetoric to become a part of the platform"
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Hey they just found this out, Probaly in Bubba Clinton's Mams book
Posted by: Not Fake Tits Meghan McCain at November 19, 2018 03:24 PM (BqBId)

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All we want in a Dem Speaker is someone who makes a lousy impression on TV.

IOW, Pelosi.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2018 03:27 PM (Rxduq) Question - have you not seen Loopy on camera?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 19, 2018 03:28 PM (37IEG)

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Congress is just your high school or college student council grown up. Never connected with those people or thought much of them then and feel the same way now. I also have enough self awareness though that I realize somebody has to do it. Unfortunately it's always a certain breed that I dislike that it's their passion. There are of course exceptions. But too few.

Posted by: Zimmerman telegram at November 19, 2018 03:28 PM (2DOZq)

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Under the Wiki entry for Vagina Dentata is a picture of a smiling Doll Eyes Alex.

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I assume any Dem speaker is going to be bad for us and bad for America.

I can't pick between them. For once, I'm willing to delegate this. If Trump wants to work with her, I have no strong feelings in favor of anyone else.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, 20% cleaner at November 19, 2018 03:26 PM (bcbK

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Yeah... I don't think it matters, except for who would harm the Dems the most. Trump seems to think that's Pelosi. Others think a radical would discredit them more, but I'll trust PDT's judgment on this.

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105. yes until FLOTUS showed up Pelousy was the best dressed female in DC. Now she's a distant second.

Posted by: kallisto at November 19, 2018 03:30 PM (WkMnJ)

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Do you believe most moderate Democrats/LIVs/etc arrived at their current voting habits through reasoned logic?

Posted by: 18-1 at N

well, first of all, I am not one of the ones here that fantasizes about the romance of armed conflict or some split of the country. this is my country, I want it all, and I do not want to be responsible for its dissolution.

second, the majority of the middle does not have any fixed beliefs, politically, one way or the other, they can be swayed. the are most easily swayed by emotion but it is not lasting.

third, having spent the majority of my adulthood surrounded by and interacting with those who identify as liberal and democrat, I will assure you that they have a bit of a cognitive dissonance. frequently they will advocate one thing politically and another personally. for instance what they advocate for other people's kids in public school is not what they implement with their own kids.

I have had quite a lot of success explaining my position on conservatism and the Constitution simply asking them which of the contracts they have signed wold they like to be a living document with words and obligations that are able to be redefined at someone's whim. that argument does not instantly persuade everyone but it definitely sticks. more than half of the people I have had that discussion with have come back to me at some point to rehash the argument with me. they are not all instantly swayed, but the fact the it stays with them suggests they are not entirely unthinking and set in their positions.

lots of people in blue states and cities are more like us than unlike us.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 03:31 PM (MTjB1)

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Shumer took $50k in donations from Facebook and his daughter got a job

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/313434/

Posted by: steevy at November 19, 2018 03:31 PM (BXMxN)

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It seems the new class of democrats don't care if we know where the bodies are buried.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic

Yeah. Al Franken found out the hard way.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2018 03:31 PM (2El4P)

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173 So unless Trump actually does convince Republicans to vote for Pelosi -- which would make her Speakership illegitimate to many Democrats (whoopsie)

LOL. Do it. Do it. Watch the Democrat party melt down.

Posted by: The ARC of History at November 19, 2018 03:29 PM (TEv5V)

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No matter what, the House will pass some garbage amnesty and infrastructure bills while having very ineffective but loud committee meetings on TV.

Might as well make Democrats suspicious of their own leader in the process.

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Nancy doing a naked fan dance with nothing but copies of the constitution and a stripper pole. You're welcome!

Posted by: Marcus T at November 19, 2018 03:32 PM (VpIIl)

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I posted on earlier post pelosi will protect trump from impeachment.
Corporate establishment democrats take their orders from deep state
alexandria ocasio-cortez does not. Establishment democrats protected
nixon, reagan and both bush's from treason charges. republicans must
vote for pelosi to protect trump from impeachment.

Posted by: ramondo at November 19, 2018 03:15 PM (I6idP)

huh? Has Occasional-Cortex figured out the correct answer to the 3 branches of government yet?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2018 03:32 PM (UsCnO)

191How is it in this day and age nobody has iphone porn or naked pictures of Occasional-Vortex?

If you release naked pictures of an ex-girlfriend no future girlfriends will let you take naked pictures of them.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2018 03:32 PM (fuK7c)

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136 Hmmm, Speaker is number three in succession, doesn't have to be a House member...
Posted by: Hillary at November 19, 2018 03:25 PM (kc+Bd)

heh

Posted by: m at November 19, 2018 03:32 PM (GkIz4)

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105. yes until FLOTUS showed up Pelousy was the best dressed female in DC. Now she's a distant second.

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I don't think the point of Trump's endorsement is to signal that he thinks she's the least bad option, it's because if he does so, he's now got (some degree of) power over her. It's a win-win for him. He gets to appear magnanimous and make deals with the opposing side, the far left goes absolutely nuts over it, and if Pelosi starts doing anything too crazy, he threaten her with losing the Speakership by losing Republican support.

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Troll is inadvertenently hilarious. No one engages, so he pathetically whines about lack of engagement. In his own mind, he's the star of "Everybody Hates Ramundo." In reality, no one here can be arsed. He's like a piece of gum on the sidewalk that everyone walks around. Sad.

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From what I understand Pelosi is a huge fundraiser.They wont cross her because she controls the purse strings.

Posted by: steevy at November 19, 2018 03:34 PM (BXMxN)

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What is the advantage to Trump in having Pelosi as Speaker? Known quantity or is she just slightly less of a howling leftist than the woman from the Congressional Black Caucus who might replace her?

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How do you say off Sock in Morse code?
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at N

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Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 03:34 PM (MTjB1)

21528 I think all the Republicans should vote unanimously for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She might accidentally win if some Dems vote for her. That would be way more entertaining than Pelosi.
Posted by: Roy at November 19, 2018 03:08 PM (9rXxD)

Maxine Waters. Then claim any Dems who didn't vote for her were racist AND sexist. Put the cat among the pigeons.

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211 What is the advantage to Trump in having Pelosi as Speaker? Known quantity or is she just slightly less of a howling leftist than the woman from the Congressional Black Caucus who might replace her?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2018 03:34 PM (AllCR)

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She's a face to run against.

Proven to be unpopular in swing states/districts.

Having her will more likely help him in re-election during 2020 than anyone else.

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Oh hell no. For the LOLs we should ask the Republicans to vote in a block for Ilhan Omar. The woman married her own brother as part of an immigration fraud scheme. She is the Platonic form of Dem craziness.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 19, 2018 03:24 PM (eSx+E)

I see what you're saying, but do you really want her that high in the line of succession?

Posted by: rickl at November 19, 2018 03:35 PM (xjiRE)

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I'd like to see Republicans line-up behind Loopy Fiasco or Mad Maxine. It would be epic.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 19, 2018 03:35 PM (O7MnT)

225
Doll Eyes Alex thinks the third chamber of Congress is her vagina.

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223 128
Oh hell no. For the LOLs we should ask the Republicans to vote in a block for Ilhan Omar. The woman married her own brother as part of an immigration fraud scheme. She is the Platonic form of Dem craziness.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 19, 2018 03:24 PM (eSx+E)

I see what you're saying, but do you really want her that high in the line of succession?
Posted by: rickl at November 19, 2018 03:35 PM (xjiRE)

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Chose the most conservative Democrat backbencher and vote for him/her en masse.

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I think Pelosi = money is overstated. She has the money because she's been the Dem leader in the House sonce forever. If she's dethroned, the money will quickly go elsewhere. No one is personally invested in the Birdwoman of Alcatraz.

23873 So who do the defecting Dems want to see as Speaker?
Posted by: IC

Maxine Waters.

Because if your going to go CRAZY, don't fuck around. Go all in!

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 19, 2018 03:39 PM (odNSz)

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How is it in this day and age nobody has iphone porn or naked pictures of Occasional-Vortex?

Maybe she's one of the 100 people under age 40 who doesn't want to have nude pictures taken of her because she thinks it could be used for blackmail by various d-bag exes.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2018 03:39 PM (AllCR)

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"Cortana what are the odds the House Republicans can make a deal with dissident democrats to elect a Republican Speaker of the house?"

Cortana: Ask again later. It could happen.
Posted by: Cortana can Help at November 19, 2018 03:37 PM (hrcfq)

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This only works the other way. Don't try to be cute.

Posted by: Cruise Cucks at November 19, 2018 03:39 PM (yL25O)

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Pelosi's ugly mug sitting behind Trump next year at the SOTU address, yuck. Bet she won't stand and clap for anything he says..she will just sit there and chew on her dentures.

Posted by: IC at November 19, 2018 03:39 PM (a0IVu)

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What is the advantage to Trump in having Pelosi as Speaker? Known quantity or is she just slightly less of a howling leftist than the woman from the Congressional Black Caucus who might replace her?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2018 03:34 PM (AllCR)

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She is not popular on a National level. Having her as the face of the Dems for 2020 would be a big advantage.

Shall I tell her you are busy sacrificing children at the altar of capitalism under the false banner of patriotism or that you are gratuitously exploiting women sexually while you assert your hypermasculinity?

Having her will more likely help him in re-election during 2020 than anyone else.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Hanh?

He has to run against the Dem pres candidate. She ain't going to be one.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 19, 2018 03:41 PM (pnMCv)

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If you release naked pictures of an ex-girlfriend no future girlfriends will let you take naked pictures of them.

Good for them!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2018 03:41 PM (AllCR)

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237 I think Pelosi = money is overstated. She has the money because she's been the Dem leader in the House sonce forever. If she's dethroned, the money will quickly go elsewhere. No one is personally invested in the Birdwoman of Alcatraz.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 19, 2018 03:38 PM (H5knJ)

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That is power in politics, and it's invested in a proven money raiser.

It's one reason Paul Ryan never got successfully toppled, because he was good at raising money.

And it's not just money, but the fact that that money raised helped elect many members of Congress. Those who know that their wins in tight races were partially due to the leadership's largess will find it harder to vote against the leadership's wishes.

How do they know you're taking pictures of them?
Posted by: Bill Cosby

That's what the two way mirror in the bathroom is for.

What?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2018 03:42 PM (2El4P)

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"We have 219 votes for Maxine Waters' Hair to be the new Speaker of the House."

It'll be good enough having her as head of the Financial Services Committee. She can come to work wearing one of those giant dollar sign medallions. I presume the banks she will be overseeing already have their checkbooks at the ready...

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at November 19, 2018 03:43 PM (sf1AO)

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Mia love wins and we are at 202 seats. Dems at 233. Pelosi does not have the luxury of 257 seats like she had in 2009

272
Have we seen the first showing of
"The Return of Acosta"?
I hope they switch off his microphone and substitute some Yosemite Sam dialogue.

Posted by: Downcast at November 19, 2018 03:43 PM (DHLh0)

273It would totally ruin the narrative of running against Nancy. Their come back would be Republicans elected her.
Not smart politics
Posted by: Kemp at November 19, 2018 03:40 PM (XV4rf)

Exactly. The smart play for the R's is to vote as a block for the most conservative republican knowing he'll never get the nod. Then in 18 months they can go back to their district and say how Tea Party conservative they are (even though it is a complete lie), and not be tarred in anyway with whomever becomes speaker.

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The GOP will NOT interfere with the vote.
If they broke the tacit agreement not to mess around like that, what do you suppose the Dems would do if the GOP took back the House?
They'd lure away a few RINOs and put in Maxine --- whatever.

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"We have 219 votes for Maxine Waters' Hair to be the new Speaker of the House."

It'll
be good enough having her as head of the Financial Services Committee.
She can come to work wearing one of those giant dollar sign medallions. I
presume the banks she will be overseeing already have their checkbooks
at the ready... ==================

2 years as head of the Financial Services Committee?

Maxine is going to be a rich, rich woman, indeed!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2018 03:48 PM (UsCnO)

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And we got Kevin McCarthy, spawn of John Boehner and Paul Ryan. So pretty much the political antichrist.

I'm a little unclear how we're better off...

Posted by: Marcus T at November 19, 2018 03:48 PM (VpIIl)

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Gotta run. Perhaps another time there will be a thread for the art, practice, psychology, and morality of naked girlfriend pics.

I haven't had conversations about this-only what I read on the internet-that boyfriend convinced gal to have nude pictures taken because she was so sexy and he would never, ever release them because he loved and all...yada, yada and she stupidly said ye. Of course you could have gals and girls like the Kadashians who thinks everybody want to know what they look like

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2018 03:49 PM (AllCR)

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Look, either an American can come forward with the pictures of Occasio Cortez and make money on the deal or we can wait two years and the Chinese hackers will release them and no American will be paid.

326
I suspect this is all for the rubes, to let those who promised not to support Pelosi keep their pledge, but she will still win by one vote. And not a Republican's. They would never give that to President Trump.

327
> So exactly how long do you suppose the average porn screenplay is?

I didn't know they even had screenplays any more.

In the old days, they'd at least have some bullshit "story" about the cable guy or the pizza guy or the cheerleader getting caught smoking in the locker room or something. But there's nothing like that nowadays.

336
"Looks like a Wookie eating an Arby's" ah, the poetry of that line will have me checking into Celebrity Jihad hourly.

Posted by: Regular joe at November 19, 2018 03:50 PM (7PllL)

337
319 297 Imagine those batshit crazy eyes looking up at you as she drags her shark teeth on your member.......Posted by: Sponge at November 19, 2018 03:45 PM (F4u7C)

There isn't enough lye soap and wire-brushes to scrape that vision out of my head.
Posted by: DocJ at November 19, 2018 03:46 PM (NYS7S)

you guys...she is attractive but has the unstable crazy chick vice going on. The kind that will stalk you, send you crazy emails and break into your house to cut up all your clothes and cook your pet.
Posted by: IC at November 19, 2018 03:49 PM (a0IVu)

She'll cook your clothes she's so crazy

Posted by: josephistan at November 19, 2018 03:50 PM (7HtZB)

338
if your bf or girlfriend is saying, "I won't have sex with you unless you take nude pictures of me" you need to kick that person to the curb.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2018 03:50 PM (AllCR)

339
"I'm not fond of the giant pearl necklace thing. It screams I'm a bitch.
"

I had a girlfriend once who had a weird thing about that being the only thing she wouldn't take off when naked.So yeah, it screams something...

Posted by: Marcus T at November 19, 2018 03:51 PM (VpIIl)

340
And we got Kevin McCarthy, spawn of John Boehner and Paul Ryan. So pretty much the political antichrist.

342
sure, were you suggesting we try to get the mensheviks or bolsheviks?
_______________________________________

They're Democrats. History has proven that they can be bought.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 19, 2018 03:51 PM (H7LIz)

343
> you guys...she is attractive but has the unstable crazy chick vice going on. The kind that will stalk you, send you crazy emails and break into your house to cut up all your clothes and cook your pet.

So much this.

I learned to avoid that about 3/4 of the way through the previous century.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 19, 2018 03:51 PM (vOkuK)

344
Sponge's visual is cruel and I suffer. Damn her eyes.....and teeth. Have mercy Sponge man.

351you guys...she is attractive but has the unstable crazy chick vice going on. The kind that will stalk you, send you crazy emails and break into your house to cut up all your clothes and cook your pet.
Posted by: IC at November 19, 2018 03:49 PM (a0IVu)

I'm going to have to disagree here. I'm not into the googly eyes, round bobble head look. Sorry. She's not attractive to me regardless of her communistic nature.

Posted by: Sponge at November 19, 2018 03:52 PM (F4u7C)

352
Whoah, slow down people. My order of overpriced Boy Scout popcorn just came in and I do not want to blow through it too quickly.

354
269----True, but as the second most powerful Democrat, behind whoever gets the nomination, she'll appear in a lot of ads.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, If you've read and enjoyed any of my works, please leave a review on Amazon. at November 19, 2018 03:43 PM (XSSCs)
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The novice who won an upset* victory in VA-5 featured Pelosi often in his ads, playing up his opponent's connections to her. I wasn't sure how that would resonate but it sure didn't hurt.

("Upset," because the race was supposed to be a toss-up or leans-Dem and he won by double digits.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2018 03:52 PM (Rxduq)

355
They're Democrats. History has proven that they can be bought.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 19, 2018 03:51 PM (H7LIz)

well they have also demonstrated they have great cohesion.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 03:52 PM (MTjB1)

356
Okay so thread suggestion: you are NOT the cook and you are NOT wanted in the kitchen, what do you do from 10PM Wednesday until 4PM Thursday?

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I'll be doing some kitchen stuff - but mostly helping to get the house in order, moving furniture, setting table, etc. etc.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 19, 2018 03:52 PM (AzW6q)

357
352 Whoah, slow down people. My order of overpriced Boy Scout popcorn just came in and I do not want to blow through it too quickly.
Posted by: Picric at November 19, 2018 03:52 PM (J7QR

360Sponge's visual is cruel and I suffer. Damn her eyes.....and teeth. Have mercy Sponge man.
Posted by: John Doe at November 19, 2018 03:51 PM (WX+x0)

I guess there ARE lines that can be crossed here......Huh.....

Posted by: Sponge at November 19, 2018 03:53 PM (F4u7C)

361
After staring at an image of Ozzie Cortex.... nah, not attractive.... generic ethnic millenial.... standard look and mentality.

Posted by: kraken at November 19, 2018 03:53 PM (ffWPP)

362Whoah, slow down people. My order of overpriced Boy Scout popcorn just came in and I do not want to blow through it too quickly.

That's why they make it taste so bad...so it will laaaasssttt.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 19, 2018 03:53 PM (oVJmc)

363
Imagine those batshit crazy eyes looking up at you
as she drags her shark teeth on your member.......Posted by: Sponge at
November 19, 2018 03:45 PM (F4u7C)

There isn't enough lye soap and wire-brushes to scrape that vision out of my head.
Posted by: DocJ at November 19, 2018 03:46 PM (NYS7S)

you guys...she is attractive but has the unstable crazy chick vice
going on. The kind that will stalk you, send you crazy emails and break
into your house to cut up all your clothes and cook your pet. Posted by: IC at November 19, 2018 03:49 PM (a0IVu)

Shs'e the crazy exgirlfriend from You Oughta Know. The one that's perverted in movie theaters and stalks you and your new Mommy-material-girlfriend at a restaurant. She's the one who has sex with other men and hopes you feel her nails going down their backs.

yeah, she is not that attractive, she is just attractive for democrat congresswomen.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 03:55 PM (MTjB1)

371
Alexandra grew up here in Westchester County. I'm sure there are several guys who have some special photos that they are saving up to pay for their next BMW.

Posted by: Some Guy From Westchester County at November 19, 2018 03:55 PM (H7LIz)

372
Couldn't she do a whole series of films about a young starlet doing" anything" she can to earn money to pay off a settlement for violating a nondisclosure agreement?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic

Handies at a Love's truck stop in Texarkana, Texas.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2018 03:55 PM (2El4P)

373
I would have to look it up, but has any one ever served shorter than a 2 years as Speaker of the House, barring illness?

Posted by: Picric at November 19, 2018 03:55 PM (J7QR8)

374
Mccarthy is a democrat and he will talk red state tough cause he will never be able to deliver. remember mcturtle and rino could have delivered all things conservative and did squat. President Trump is temporary so Mr. President use your power and destroy them. You and we will never get another chance.

Posted by: John Doe at November 19, 2018 03:55 PM (WX+x0)

375
108 When Pelosi regains the Speakership, will she get her jet back?
Posted by: davidt at November 19, 2018 03:21 PM (kc+Bd)

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Yes. Bigger, faster, more opulent, with larger liquor tanks in the cargo hold. Trump will insist.

as she drags her shark teeth on your member.......Posted by: Sponge at

November 19, 2018 03:45 PM (F4u7C)

There isn't enough lye soap and wire-brushes to scrape that vision out of my head.

Posted by: DocJ at November 19, 2018 03:46 PM (NYS7S)

you guys...she is attractive but has the unstable crazy chick vice

going on. The kind that will stalk you, send you crazy emails and break

into your house to cut up all your clothes and cook your pet. Posted by: IC at November 19, 2018 03:49 PM (a0IVu)

Shs'e
the crazy exgirlfriend from You Oughta Know. The one that's perverted
in movie theaters and stalks you and your new Mommy-material-girlfriend
at a restaurant. She's the one who has sex with other men and hopes you
feel her nails going down their backs.

406
There's no nude pics of Oxy-Corpuscle because she's still a virgin!
I crack myself up.

Posted by: wth at November 19, 2018 04:01 PM (HgMAr)

407
I'm sure our real-news, unbiased, doesn't-pick-sides corporate media will be all over this with breathless stories about CHAOS IN THE DEMOCRAT CAUCUS!!!! just like how every minor Twitter-fight in the Trump Administration is covered. Right?

411
sorry for the attendant that has to wax that.
Posted by: rickb223 at N

lol, what was the star trek where spock opens the box without his visor?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 19, 2018 04:02 PM (MTjB1)

412
296 Okay so thread suggestion: you are NOT the cook and you are NOT wanted in the kitchen, what do you do from 10PM Wednesday until 4PM Thursday?

the elrey network (home of eight pole five finger shaolin exploding death touch thursday what now happens on sunday) is having a four-day kickflick marathon.

unfortunately, mrs. chronda insists that she watch chimpsgiving on bbc america, even though she noticed that most of the primates in the advertisement are not chimps, so i'm not certain i can pull it off.

419
393 > yeah, she is not that attractive, she is just attractive for democrat congresswomen.

Or, to be fair, any congresswomen.

It's not hard to look good when your competition is Maxine Waters.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 19, 2018 03:59 PM (vOkuK)

Bella Abzug.

Posted by: rd at November 19, 2018 04:07 PM (xFmWK)

420
381---Denver Riggleman is that dude's name. His predecessor Tom Garrett won by something like 17 points. Any forecaster who thought that district was going Dem was high or drunk when they thought it:-P
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 19, 2018 03:57 PM (F/KeJ)
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They all had toss-up or leans-Dem. I was a bit skeered.

Remember that VA-5 went Dem in 2008 because of the massive UVA and black turn-out for the Lightbringer.
(Of course it went back to R again in 2010 and following.)

I think they were hoping that anti-Trump sentiment would prove as strong as the 2008 Obama-love and they honestly thought that UVA students in particular would be thrilled with Cockburn.
Not to mention that Riggleman is a Nazi!!!!

Stormy Daniels: Donald Trump 'completely destroyed' my porn screenwriting career.
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The headline at Town Hall just said "career." She was traveling around to titty bars, being a "headliner." the last report I saw, she chucked a guy's wallet in his face for some infraction. That's her "career": doing table dances at Roxy's in Sauget, Illinois.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 19, 2018 04:11 PM (ty7RM)

422I think the Repubs should vote for Occasionallyused Cortex as Speaker. She'll gum up the works so thoroughly as to be unelectable in two years.

But she will be able to put the Dem platform front and center...err...well on the left that is.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at November 19, 2018 04:14 PM (1hM1d)

423
I think they were hoping that anti-Trump sentiment
would prove as strong as the 2008 Obama-love and they honestly thought
that UVA students in particular would be thrilled with Cockburn.

Not to mention that Riggleman is a Nazi!!!!

They poured millions into that race, BTW.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2018 04:09 PM (Rxduq)

I was glad they were wasting money there. Unlike the rage I felt at them pouring millions into the character assassination that Dave Brat endured.

424
I think Trump is exactly right on this one. Right now the Democrat 2020 field is weak, with no clear front-runner. Putting a fresh(er) face as Speaker could give that person enough momentum to potentially unite the Democrats before an ugly primary season disenfranchises a bunch of activist voters.

And listen guys, just because you see how stupid Occasional Cortex is doesn't mean she won't be able to dupe a whole shitload of people into believing her vapid lies.

The only thing the NPC's keep reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeing about is some FB Group he was apparently a part of. "Alt-Right/Racist/Neo-Nazi" blah blah blah. Knowing their standards I'm sure it's no worse than our own little hive of villainy.

I liked the chick who just started listing word agencies - CIA, FBI, ... I don't even know what the hell she was trying to say. Most of those federal alphabet agencies have been working against Trump, attempting, LITERALLY, a coup.

And the lefties didn't even bother to address the guy's point of Barky investigating journalists.

I was disappointed that Barky locking journalists in broom closets wasn't brought up. That's a favorite of mine. I especially love the part where the journalist who was locked in the broom closet defends Barky ... "I made him hit me! It was my fault."

I liked the chick who just started listing word agencies - CIA, FBI,
... I don't even know what the hell she was trying to say. Most of
those federal alphabet agencies have been working against Trump,
attempting, LITERALLY, a coup.

And the lefties didn't even bother to address the guy's point of Barky investigating journalists.

I was disappointed that Barky locking journalists in broom closets
wasn't brought up. That's a favorite of mine. I especially love the
part where the journalist who was locked in the broom closet defends
Barky ... "I made him hit me! It was my fault."

I liked the chick who just started listing word agencies - CIA, FBI, ... I don't even know what the hell she was trying to say. Most of those federal alphabet agencies have been working against Trump, attempting, LITERALLY, a coup.

And the lefties didn't even bother to address the guy's point of Barky investigating journalists.

I was disappointed that Barky locking journalists in broom closets wasn't brought up. That's a favorite of mine. I especially love the part where the journalist who was locked in the broom closet defends Barky ... "I made him hit me! It was my fault."
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 19, 2018 02:39 PM (Gk3gh)

I have to wonder if this is the way to address it: keep repeating the question until they are FORCED to answer it. Too many eyeballs watch these shows to just surrender.

54
I had a similar conversation with my physical therapist the other day. As he droned on I finally couldn't take it. McRaven's op-ed had him convinced Trump is anti-free speech and anti-free press, when the truth is obviously 180 degrees the opposite.

The left is propagandizing this narrative and only Crenshaw, so far, is fighting back.

55Over/under on when Jim Acosta will receive his honorary purple heart?

Pretty soon. Next time Acosta goes apeshit, PDT will walk up to him, reach into Acosta's chest, yank out his still-beating heart, punch it 'til it's purple, and reinsert it into the bloody cavity.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 19, 2018 02:42 PM (miE9U)

56
Crenshaw for Defense Sec. I frigg'n love this guy. He totally owned these emotional lwittle 1st graders....god those little liberal snowflakes looked like fools....oh, oh, I'll give you an example...the media are such tools.

Posted by: Freddyfudpucker at November 19, 2018 02:42 PM (AzZAE)

57
I still think that Trump should have pulled CNN's access, not just Acosta's. They knew what Acosta was doing and sent him in there to do exactly what he did. CNN is responsible for everything he did.

What to do on these shows then?
Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at November 19, 2018 02:40 PM (vgwv+)

I don't know. I wouldn't be able to maintain decorum. Bannon does pretty well. In the Oxford Union debate, when the moderator (!) started nitpicking, Bannon said, really, is this what we're going to do here all night? And that worked.

84
Crenshaw is good. CNN has 30 t0 50 hard passes. They only revoked Kato Acosta's. Yet they pretend Trump is crushing the press. Has he wiretapped them like Obama did? Did he raid the studio after this show? No.

Posted by: Sponge at November 19, 2018 02:46 PM (F4u7C) And right there! He could agitate their skinny asses all day and have them screaming, and I'd bet he'd be just as cool and collected as you just saw on that clip.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 19, 2018 02:47 PM (37IEG)

86
68 44 What to do on these shows then?
Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at November 19, 2018 02:40 PM (vgwv+)

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I've got a good idea:

stop appearing on them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 19, 2018 02:40 PM (AzW6q)

Winner.
Posted by: DocJ at November 19, 2018 02:44 PM (NYS7S)

No, no, no. We've ceded enough territory to the other side. I want to go on the offensive, intellectual and otherwise.

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at November 19, 2018 02:48 PM (vgwv+)

87
Of course I spend time talking about how Dan Crenshaw is a fantastic up and comer in the last thread, and Ace had this already lined up as his first post of the day.

Honestly, I didn't have inside information. Some things are just so good, they must be repeated.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2018 02:48 PM (UsCnO)

88And right there! He could agitate their skinny asses all day and have them screaming, and I'd bet he'd be just as cool and collected as you just saw on that clip.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 19, 2018 02:47 PM (37IEG)

And, if all else failed, he could incapacitate them with a paper clip.

Posted by: Sponge at November 19, 2018 02:48 PM (F4u7C)

89
That is the way to do it. Don't back down. Don't let them get away with diversions. Unfortunately, there are only a few who seem to get this, and have the ability to pull it off.

Unfortunately, they'll figure out that he does, and can. So they'll invite Ben Sasse instead.

98
and let's not let them get away with saying Trump calls Mexicans murderers and rapists.

Bannon's little speech linked here yesterday ...(at Oxford I think), a couple times the Oxford host claimed Trump called
immigrants bad things ... Bannon went along with him, that Trump is
sometimes bad, says some bad shit. NO ... Trump never call immigrants
"rapists and murderers" ... he says that of the illegals, and even says
"some of them are good".

Quite clearly Trump is being
misquoted intentionally ... he supports the BigDoor in the wall, for
merit based legal (limited) immigration. Any time the left tells that lie about
Trump hating immigrants, it should be made clear it is the left telling
that racist/bigoted lie. Bannon agreed with it.

102
But my candidate can skateboard. Yours hasn't even got two eyes!
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I've got two eyes, you moron.

It's *legs* I haven't got.

Posted by: Lieutenant Dan at November 19, 2018 02:52 PM (0JUQP)

103
The one thing this clip makes really obvious is how much of their opposition to Trump is pseudo-classist "He's just NOT our type! harrumph! pass the cucumber sandwiches, Mr. Kristol!".
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Actually that's our objection to you also. Deplorable.

Posted by: CNN at November 19, 2018 02:52 PM (C6xeQ)

104
What is wrong with literally attacking the press in response, if they literally deserve it and they literally make unjust attacks?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2018 02:53 PM (/qEW2)

105
I for one am heartened by the efforts of the GOP over the past 30 year in fighting the corruption of language at every level especially at the universities...

120
Boy, Democrats have gotten all attacky and nukey since the elections, haven't they?

It's like they found their bee muscles.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 19, 2018 02:55 PM (VpIIl)

121
Sec. Kirstjen Nielsen
@SecNielsen
This AM, all of #SanYsidro Port of Entry's northbound lanes were temporarily closed to initiate additional port hardening efforts after @CBP officials were notified that a large # of caravan migrants were planning to rush the border in an attempt to gain illegal access to the US.

130
a large # of caravan migrants were planning to rush the border in an attempt to gain illegal access to the US.
Posted by: MSM is the Deep States Mentall Ill Girlfriend at November 19, 2018 02:55 PM (BqBId)

But not an invasion. Nope. Not at all.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 19, 2018 02:56 PM (AURKQ)

131
They're not brining their best, folks.
====
They are eating them??????????????

This AM, all of #SanYsidro Port of Entry's northbound lanes were
temporarily closed to initiate additional port hardening efforts after
@CBP officials were notified that a large # of caravan migrants were
planning to rush the border in an attempt to gain illegal access to the
US.-------------

Better late than never. But it's still lame-ass, inexcusably late.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 19, 2018 02:57 PM (13CQC)

137
I was at Cabella's yesterday picking up some stuff and they had a sign for sale that said "I'm a deplorable clinging to my guns and my religion."

142
I'm thinking (which could be dangerous), that we impose something I call the "Under Siege Method",
punch the Antifa next to the squawking "I want to fight" chicks. Then punch the chick. Equal Rights Amendment, FTW.

In pink hair video, there is clearly some putz ready to protect the loud cunt. He was not expecting to be hit first.

150
we should support pelosi for speaker she is a safe establishment corporate democrat who won't try to impeach the president. what do you think would happened if ocasio-cortez or one of those militant black or muslim woman were chose speaker. establishment democrats have long record of protecting republicans. want examples please ok here are some 1968 lbj refuse efforts to go public with tapes of nixon committing treason with south vietnam to sabotage peace talks. 1980 jimmy carter refuses to go public with bill casey committing treason with iran to hold hostages to win 1980 election congressional democrats ignore iran contra issues such as ollie north's involvement with contra drug dealing to finance their efforts. allowing republicans on supreme court to stop vote count in 2000 florida race. clinton does nothing 9-11 pelosi supports dubya instead of calling for investigation on neo-cons needing a second "pearl harbor" to invade iraq. support nancy she will protect president trump from impeachment.

Posted by: ramondo at November 19, 2018 02:59 PM (I6idP)

151
You hafta have nuts to get kneed in them. She should have kicked Acosta s raisins.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 19, 2018 02:59 PM (NuA1h)

152GOPers would have to present a united front though, saying "they're just fake news media, we don't want to promote them - catch us on streaming media for our responses to their bullshit."

I absolutely agree with you on principle, but a fair amount of their base probably can't. I can barely watch youtube, let alone alive stream of anything.

YES. Crenshaw should have let them have it with both barrels. I'd say he used only one barrel.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 19, 2018 03:01 PM (13CQC)

160 Was this the very objective Face the Nation or a spinoff of Bill Maher's show, Four Libs Gang Up on a Conservative?
Posted by: red speck at November 19, 2018 03:00 PM (6Krd7)

4 pussies and a Cock 'n Balls.

Posted by: Sponge at November 19, 2018 03:02 PM (F4u7C)

161
The press is literally deluded if they think that the President challenging their lies and calling them liars is anyway an infringement of their first amendment rights. They have no right to acquiescence. They have no right to be the arbiters of truth. They have no right to unearned respect. And they have no right to access to the President (or any other news source that doesn't want to talk to them).

163
118 True, but Dan Crenshaw looked so calm, so in charge, so unlike any of the others that he shared the table with, that he stood out as the reasonable one.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2018 02:55 PM (UsCnO)

To us.

Posted by: m at November 19, 2018 03:02 PM (GkIz4)

164
I think the Dems are trapped on the impeachment. I doubt most of them are seriously interested in crossing that Rubicon when they're unlikely to get quite enough votes to convict.

But they have promised this to their voters - it was the only issue besides vague stuff about "healthcare" that these idiots ran on, in a completely nationalized campaign.

If they don't draft Articles, the foaming-at-the-mouth NPC base will have a shit-fit.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 19, 2018 03:02 PM (AzW6q)

165
57
I still think that Trump should have pulled CNN's access, not just
Acosta's. They knew what Acosta was doing and sent him in there to do
exactly what he did. CNN is responsible for everything he did.

169
Millennials use the word "literally" like Vizzini in The Princess Bride used the word "inconceivable".

That's my tribute to the late William Goldman. You're welcome.

Posted by: Pete in Texas at November 19, 2018 03:03 PM (EZwv4)

170I'm thinking (which could be dangerous), that we impose something I call the "Under Siege Method",
punch the Antifa next to the squawking "I want to fight" chicks. Then punch the chick. Equal Rights Amendment, FTW.

In pink hair video, there is clearly some putz ready to protect the loud cunt. He was not expecting to be hit first.

Its easy except for the depth perception part. Just like playing centerfield.

Posted by: DanMan at November 19, 2018 03:03 PM (QMG5F)

173"Why does he wear that eye patch, is he a pirate or something?"
Posted by: DamnedYankee

He sells shirts by the seashore.

http://swiped.co/file/man-hathaway-shirt-ad-david-ogilvy/

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2018 03:03 PM (aKsyK)

174The press is literally deluded if they think that the President challenging their lies and calling them liars is anyway an infringement of their first amendment rights. They have no right to acquiescence. They have no right to be the arbiters of truth. They have no right to unearned respect. And they have no right to access to the President (or any other news source that doesn't want to talk to them).
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 19, 2018 03:02 PM (F/KeJ)

They've never been called out in this way so they're 100% reactionary at this point.

But I think you're at the wrong spot -- we have absolutely zero say in who the speaker of the house is, and the same is likely going to be true of elected republicans, so...

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 19, 2018 03:03 PM (GBteo)

178
ant black or muslim woman were chose speaker.
establishment democrats have long record of protecting republicans. want
examples please ok here are some 1968 lbj refuse efforts to go public
with tapes of nixon committing treason with south vietnam to sabotage
peace talks. 1980 jimmy carter refuses to go public with bill casey
committing treason with iran to hold hostages to win 1980 election
congressional democrats ignore iran contra issues such as ollie north's
involvement with contra drug dealing to finance their efforts. allowing
republicans on supreme court to stop vote count in 2000 florida race.
clinton does nothing 9-11 pelosi supports dubya instead of calling for
investigation on neo-cons needing a second "pearl harbor" to invade
iraq. support nancy she will protect president trump from impeachment.

Posted by: ramondo at November 19, 2018 02:59 PM (I6idP)

Let them impeach... it just shows how crazy they are. Trump would not be convicted even if they passed new articles of impeachment every week and Trump certainly isn't going to resign over their crazy.

179
Pretty soon. Next time Acosta goes apeshit, PDT will walk up to him,
reach into Acosta's chest, yank out his still-beating heart, punch it
'til it's purple, and reinsert it into the bloody cavity....then he'll silently walk back and return to his scorpion chair.

Posted by: Carrots the Turkey at November 19, 2018 03:04 PM (SOV+T)

180
I feel ya... but this is the "media ecosystem..." going on the offensive is effectively the same as withdrawing.

The media orgs have a deal with Conservative, Inc. to be conciliatory, and cower like whipped dogs on their shows.

If a conservative makes a habit of going on the offensive, he'll be invited never to return, a la Kurt Schlichter.

Your options are to beclown yourself to gain their favor, or to not come around at all. I'd choose Door Number 2 if I were being asked to be on one of these shows.

183
23 We'll never win a debate picking off their complaints one-by-one.
Posted by: m at November 19, 2018 02:38 PM (GkIz4)
----------------------------
Au contraire! That's the only way to win, to demand specifics and address them.

194
YHTBKM: When the press' assertion is that Trump is disrupting HIS OWN PRESS CONFERENCE.

Really.

Really truly.

Trump is disrupting the reporters, I guess, when he interrupts all the Very Fine Points they are making, which is what a Press Conference is now for.

I mean, do they call it a Presidential Conference?

No, they do not.

He's there for the Power part of Truth to Power, but in sort of an ironic sense since who are we kidding, the Press is punching down at these things.

That Press Prom where they have a comedian come and mock the president to his/her face while he smiles for three hours now makes so, so much more sense. It's really the true embodiment of what the press thinks every press conference actually is.

Here's the correct strategy, the ones the Dems use, and it's something the debate-club Right isn't really capable of.

Step 1 is the intellectual part, and happens behind closed doors. Settle on a damned governing strategy, for G-d's sake. Figure out where you want to take the initiative, and on what policies, and then demand pain-of-political-death Party discipline from all elected officials and Party proxies. No deviation from the plan in front of the public.

Step 2 is not even discussing specifics of the plan with the public. This is where the emotion comes in. Attack the Left, insult them, ridicule them, demonize them. Trump is good at this. At the same time, underscore your own connection to the voters at an emotional level. That you like them, care about them, and that your policies (such as they know about them) are conceived with their best interests at heart. Limbaugh is very good at this part.

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I am still puzzled by the chick's apparent contention that any criticism or even questioning of the FBI and CIA constitutes "an attack on democracy."

I may disagree with the nature and agenda of BLM's attack on police. But I would hardly call criticizing police an attack on democracy.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2018 03:16 PM (Rxduq)

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He was brilliant and on point. They all just ignored what he was saying and chattered their NPC points.

Sad.

Snake Plissken FTW!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at November 19, 2018 02:35 PM (F4u7C)"

NPCs is right. These people have no fucking idea what is going on here.These TV talking heads have spent their entire lives living in a first world, theme-park type environment without even appreciating it.They spout off stupid shit like this - speech is violence, we're being attacked, X person is braver than a Marine/soldier, everyone I've ever heard of with an AR is a mass murderer, you can't fight the .gov because they have nukes, etc, to people who have in some cases spent their *entire fucking adult lives* at war.These are people who have put in 8, 10, 15, years constantly rotating through combat deployments or private security gigs. After they ETS or retire, many of them go and buy rifles, night vision, and armor, and practice regularly with them. They are not fucking around.And yet the talking heads seem to be profoundly blind to even the concept of this type of person existing. I'm not sure I can point to a similar magnitude of disconnect, historically.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at November 19, 2018 03:17 PM (eAshZ)

"As a 34-year-old son of refugees from Africa, Joe is not your typical candidate for Congress. But his family's story, and deeply held belief that we need people from all walks of life to speak up and engage in our democracy, has motivated him to run for Congress and fight for Colorado values in Washington D.C."

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I think he's fighting for the California values of refugees from the Formerly Golden State. As an alleged refugee from conflict in Eritrea, ruthless tribal warfare comes naturally to Joe -- he's keeping it real.

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now that we will have rules for WH conduct (supposedly) ... can we also introduce mandated diversity ... as in 50% of the media must have voted for Trump, to reflect the actual population, rather than the oligarch anti-American "Russians and Chinese and globalilsts"?

Surely that "diversity" decision in the courts would cover this, not just academia?

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God, this guy is awesome. Everytime they resorted to generalities, he stopped them, and made them explain. And frankly, they couldn't defend their BS. Every Republican official should view this interview and study it, as an example of how you call out press hypocrisy and hyperbole.

So you're having a debate. One side claims Trump is attacking press freedoms or, at least undermining them.

The other side laughs at their stupidity.

But TO WHAT END ? Even if I grant you 100% of your position - where do we go from there ? Seems to me... nowhere. That the "Trump is attacking freedom of the press" is nothing but a Democrat PR offensive. And even then... to what end ?

Republicans need to stop engaging with these losers. You're not convincing them of anything, NOBODY is watching, and the Democrats and the media (BIRM) are only there to virtue signal, basically.

Stop lending them an air of legitimacy by being party to their bullshit.

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Watch Crenshaw Smash Claims Of Trump 'Undermining Democracy'
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Don't know if JJ had this in his morning report & since I have a crushing Sinus Headache, Don't feel like looking. So if it was Sorry

Was one of the best logos in sports. Only to be ruined by the leftist mob.

I really hate those guys.......

Posted by: Sponge at November 19, 2018 01:35 PM (F4u7C)

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The Donald clearly needs a throne of skulls, taken from various fake news hacks.

Posted by: Someguy at November 19, 2018 01:36 PM (qt8Bt)

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Can someone explain why the fuck the Saudi's killing a Saudi citizen on
Saudi soil is supposed to be akin to the assassination of Arch Duke
Ferdinand?

Posted by: Kreplach at November 19, 2018 01:34 PM (X+DbC) Again! Due Process! They should have accused him of being a Christian and declaring him apostate first. Rules!

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 19, 2018 01:36 PM (37IEG)

63 Can someone explain why the fuck the Saudi's killing a Saudi citizen on Saudi soil is supposed to be akin to the assassination of Arch Duke Ferdinand?
Posted by: Kreplach at November 19, 2018 01:34 PM (X+DbC)

Why, that's easy. TRUMP!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at November 19, 2018 01:36 PM (F4u7C)

64Everybody that has a friend of a friend in jail for murder, raise your hand.

My brother was (briefly) a Cub Scout, and one of other kids in his troop had a brother who was in jail for murder.

This came up when said troop was getting a tour of the jail. I wasn't there, but I heard about it (it's actually a story my mom tells sometimes-- I think she was Den Mother or whatever at the time) later, and apparently the younger brother volunteered

kid: "My brother's in here!"
Officer: "Oh, what's his name?"

Apparently that ended the tour.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 19, 2018 01:36 PM (84QUd)

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Interesting thing about Theisman,supposed his name was always pronounced Thees Man until his senior year at Notre Dame when they started rhyming it with the trophy he was hoping to win.

Posted by: steevy at November 19, 2018 01:36 PM (BXMxN)

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You are referring to Joe Theisman? I met him at an
at work function for team building back in the mid 80s. He's a nice and
personable guy IRL.

70Thinking back a little... the couple who I took the picture for and he ended up killing... it was a little too sensational, even for 'Jersey. The story was he pulled into a rest stop on the Garden State Parkway (something that probably three quarters of 'Jersey residents have done in their lives) and someone came along with a gun and shot the wife dead.

A lot of public interest in finding the murderer, because after all everyone wants to take a leak on the Garden State Parkway without getting murdered. I forget the details of how he was 'outed' but it was a pre-planned murder for hire.

The reason for it taking so long to determine the winner of this race?

Because Utah is experiencing first time voter same day registration and voting. Every ballot cast by a same day registrant means their ballot is provisional until it is confirmed they are eligible to vote in Utah. So this is why there is a two week delay.

Third world countries don't do elections the way we do .

And just think, Michigan has now approved same day registration and voting for the next election.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Black Friday Deals on Orange Man Bad Whines at the Outrage Outlet! at November 19, 2018 01:38 PM (hLRSq) Yes, she could make that work.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 19, 2018 01:38 PM (37IEG)

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I'm taking the week off as a use them or lose them vacation. Weather is miserable. What a waste. I'll go to the gun range tomorrow if it's still raining I guess since I can't do any outdoor activity ( tennis, golf) . All I can think of is the work piling up at the office. During these time I always wished I became a heavy equipment operator. The dirt ain't growing larger when you're on vacation.