before you get into office. on the other side we allknowpaulryancando the math and he can spend the whole 90 minutes talking about -- >> of course paul ryan isn't the candidate for president. >> paul ryan will get his chance. >> if you endorsed budget, please explain to us how that works. >> well, at least there's a budget. >> he was for and then against it. >> so how should romney answer? our debate all this week has been your argument is he should avoid substance at all costs. so how should romney answer her question then? >> the good news is that the rules don't allow him to speak more than a few seconds. >> actually, two minutes i think. >> so move on to the next issue, the next issue. we're looking for details. you are not going to get details tonight. >> let's be clear, there's 15-minute segments. they have two minutes to respond to the question and then jim lehrer's going to narrate the back and forth. there should be enough time. >> one thing i want to say though is that this is going to be for a bunch of young americans their first chance to vote. a lot of the young ame

, but i think they will haveapaulryanaffecttomorrow. more of what he says gets taken apart. >> obama had no facts, there are no facts to check on his side. >> you just made a case by winning you actually lost. i think most of the times when you win you win. i think over the next few days rich sorry to interrupt. a big flash poll update. wolf what are we getting? >> the results now from our scientific poll of debate watchers across the country. we asked among other things, who did the debate make you more likely to vote for? 35% said mitt romney. 18% said president obama. 47% said neither. we asked who said seemed to be the stronger leader. 58% said romney. 37% said obama. and debate watchers also asked who is more likeable? likeable? 46% said romney. 45% said president obama. let's candy crowley in denver. have you you have a special guest. a top adviser, david axelrod. but it looks like our poll, 67% said romney won the debate. only 25% said the president won the debate. and look so many more people thought that they were going to vote for romney as a result of this debate as oppose

-energized mitt romney. he is at a rally with his runningmatepaulryan. presidentobama's campaign event is getting underway right now. you're seeing live pictures there in denver. expect the president to start speaking in a minute as soon as he starts, of course, we'll bring that to you. jessica yellin is at that event as well, and jessica, we've heard a lot of spin. we've heard it late last night. we've heard it early into the morning. is there a point where the surrogates, the supporters who you are talking to acknowledged that the president needs to do better, he needs to move on, he needs to make up for what happened last night? >> no one is officially with the campaign will say that, suzanne. i am talking to democrats who definitely are agreeing with that, and i'm sure you are. they're arg urg that mitt romney was not really truthful, and i think we'll see in the coming days and weeks that the campaign will take on some of the claims that went unanswered last night by the president, but it doesn't resolve the question why didn't the president answer that himself in the debate. i th

in the american idea. only 30% want the welfare state. >> so, again, just context for our viewers thatwaspaulryan,this is a speech from last november. the whole speech has been on youtube since last fall. so my question to you, howie kurtz, are there really substantive points to be scored here by drudging up these all videos? >> there can be. i don't have any problem with it, people on either side drudging up old videos. it helps if the video you're drudging up has never been seen or heard before, then it has some shock value. there can be substantive and revealing comments in what people say when they think the spotlight is not on them. but in the case of this particular obama speech at hampton university in virginia in 2007, he delivered it in front of a bunch of reporters. cameras there. the surprise factor has been lost here. >> you covered the media. as we mentioned it right wing radio, right wing conservative television today, pointing at the -- it is the mainstream media, this is all the mainstream media, my question is, their ratings are high, they bring in the big bucks, aren't the