Speaking of wraps, I've found it's faster to wrap my hands with a pair of 2" ACE wraps in each than to try using one of those 180" long wraps. Also, I just got 10 rolls of those mexican wraps (120") for $10 from titleboxing.com.

They are very easy to wrap/unwrap, and give a very snuggy, safe feeling. Me like.

The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris

those aren't really meant to be used as gloves, they're more like wrap substitutes. They're great for introducing newbies to a class so you don't have to waste time wrapping their hands.

They work great for LIGHT bag work. 4 months on 1 pair so far. See I hate wrapping my hands old skool cuz I don't wear wraps when I grapple. The way we practice I go between the bags and the mat alot so I don't like taking the time to wrap and unwrap. For anything more than light work you simply put on a set of gloves over them.

I was thinking of buying a punch bag (50lb). If I were too what would the best gloves to buybe(under 30 quid ideally)?

Any bag gloves that fit would be fine. Wear wraps when you try them on. once you wear out a set of starter gloves you'll have a better idea what you want for your next buy.

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glove question!

so (N)everlast lived up to their name and I need new mitts. before I click order on some century 16oz'ers, has anyone used heavy gloves before? I mean 18-20oz gloves. Wondering if the extra padding makes them last long enough to be worth the extra scratch.

You can't make people smarter. You can expose them to information, but your responsibility stops there.

The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris