Cappster wrote:Jesus, himself, the person may not have been a fable, but his miracles are fables which is nothing new to the long lineage of mythological beings.

Acutually it would be. He would be the first of those "mythological beings" to actually be an historically documented person.

Just so I understand, you say his miracles are fables, so how do you account for this one person in all of recorded history, having so many "miracle fables" attributed to him? Why are many of these "miracle fables" commonly described by several different authors? Was he a magician? Did he perform some sort of tricks that were misinterperated as miracles? Why would he have challenged the establishment the way he did, knowing that it would ultimately have to lead to some form of punishment, be it death, flogging, or something else? Did he have a death wish? Was he crazy? Did he want to overthrow the Roman empire's control of his people? Why did John the Baptist acquiesce to Jesus' authority? Was he in cahoots with John the Baptist?

I account for Jesus the same way I do others gods in that stories of grandeur have no proof behind them and are subsequently dismissed. Imagine this: Say that Jesus decided instead off appearing 2000 years ago he appeared in front of us today. Imagine that this brown long haired hippie looking Jew came to America and proclaimed that he is the son of man. Would anyone really believe that this person was the son of man or would they walk by him and his cardboard sign on the street corner? He would have to do a lot more than turn water into wine to get people to believe that he is some kind of supernatural being much less god in the flesh.

All a person needs to do is look at the other stories of previously existing gods to know that the fable of Jesus is based off of previous gods and that the story of Jesus is a knock off copy of someone else's god. Jesus, if he existed, could've been a magician, a carpenter, or someone who is full of it such as Joseph Smith. It doesn't relaly matter, because the story of Jesus is not even an original and is plagiarized from gods that came before him.

we should be so lucky I guarantee, if He did make an appearance, He's not going to be at all like you picture Him because you have no clue - no clue at all

P A T I E N C E - Scot & Jay's goal here is to make this franchise better - it will take time they understand the need to change to primarily building through the draft - plus have some luck go their way