Philips is releasing some firmware versions (like the last 140) that only corrects ONE feature/bug.
The list of features and bugs on the first post of this thread is already enough for giving the Philips TV firmware guy (I still think it's only one!) work for at least... 4 years.
But after two years, they discontinue the 2010 TV models and no more updates, many things will not get corrected.

Hey, I really hope I'm wrong.
But I'm smart enough to figure out what will happen, if things keep going as up to now.

I've heard/read about the new SmartTV interface, also on the 'older' 2010 sets (search on Smart TV Philips).
I'm gessing that a lot of development effort has gone into this, were probably a lot of the code has been hussled around or maybe even completely rewritten.
Hopefully a lot of these bugs are all (indirectly) fixed...

The list of features and bugs on the first post of this thread is already enough for giving the Philips TV firmware guy (I still think it's only one!) work for at least... 4 years.
But after two years, they discontinue the 2010 TV models and no more updates, many things will not get corrected.

Dear Carlosfm,
you don't need to figure out what will happen....it's already happening.

The R&D is busy to implement new features for the 2011-2012 models and the issues/bugs of the previous models are for sure put as "reserve".

from a certain point of view I can understand, that we don't see any response from
Philips, but to be honest - even a short reply would be better much than obviously
fully ignoring Alex' list.

I think this list is a good summary and IMO there are some points on it that could be
easily fixed - and make customers happy.

I got a bit the impression that the xxx5 series was a usability test for some features -
think about the missing buttons on the remote control and compare it with the new
one - think about the limited now-and-next feature - in fact simply see what the customer
is willing to accept and what not.

regarding boards like the hifi forum in germany, one could say the same for any other brand available on the market....
but this thread is to post bugs on specific tv sets, not to spam like we do it now...

1. set timer to 5 minutes
2. wait until the tv warns you, that it will turn off in a minute
3. go to the sleep timer menu and set the timer again to 5 minutes.
4. the firmware ignores your changed sleep timer setting and turns off the tv in about 30 to 60 seconds (depends how fast you are able to access the sleep timer...)
5. imidiatelly after the tv turns off, turn it on agian (i.e. by clicking the right button on the control to simulate a chanel change)
6. check sleep timer settings: it should show -1
7. wait some time an watch the sleeptimer raising in negative directiion...

while I am writing this post my sleep timer shows -17 minutes...

at point 5. you sholud be very fast. If you are to slow, the tv should turn off completally. At this moment the sleep timer will be reset to 0.

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