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Topic: watching the dabate?? (Read 16809 times)

The apartment comment was telling. He believes those without insurance all live in apartments, aka the poor.

30 Rock made some funny bits about insurance. Kenneth the Page's mom, played by Catherine O'Hara, came to visit. She said, "Obamacare is causing us to live longer. I want to die in the ER of a treatable disease, like any red blooded American."

While it's true that Obama has clearly lost ground in the past two weeks, you have to read the internals of some of the polling for a clear picture. We all have read/heard that national polling is somewhat irrelevant because of the electoral college, but still the national numbers can cause worry. And this is why the internals are instructive, and much moreso than in other elections. The regional breakdown shows quite clearly why his numbers are being thrown off, and that is because there has been a surge of support in the South for Romney. As they were already irrelevant because they were deep red, what you're seeing is a bunch of wasted votes.

while i would like to breath a sigh of relief with the gallup internal polls, momentum nationally gives some people second thoughts.on a positive note...perhaps it will inspire more people to get out to vote for Obama.still...Obama better not be nodding off tonight.

ps.when will those southerners realize that they are being duped by the republican party?is it the diet?

I have asked this question of many of my relatives and people I meet here in the deep south . One answer I get is that they believe it when a Republican looks into the camera and says they are for christian values .

I am convinced that southern voters vote against their own interest because they fail to understand the issues and rely on what they are told by the party that they and the neighbors have supported for decades now .

I have asked this question of many of my relatives and people I meet here in the deep south . One answer I get is that they believe it when a Republican looks into the camera and says they are for christian values .

I am convinced that southern voters vote against their own interest because they fail to understand the issues and rely on what they are told by the party that they and the neighbors have supported for decades now .

Read the book " What's the matter with Kansas".

It's about this very topic. Why do people vote for those (specifically republicans) when it is against their interest. It's well written and very interesting.

Also for those outside the US, this book was released in the UK and Australia under the title "What's the matter with America"

You would think that because this is supposedly questions from the American people, they would remember this and limit their bullshit rebuts!. Clearly when they can't even listen to or answer the questions of Americans in a short timespan demonstrates why they can't listen long term. So ugly...glad I voted early...Rosanne will make a fascinating President.

There were a few in our group tonight wondering whether he intentionally did so poorly in the first debate, in order to give Romney a false sense of security. I'm not sure about that, but he was back tonight. He made so many of the points he failed to do in the first debate.

I also think Romney's comment about women needing flexible time to do their wife duties may come back to haunt him.

Romney came across very aggressive this evening, bordering on bullying and constantly crying about the timer.

I too wondered about the flex time for women comment. Not only did it not answer the question, it almost borders on agreeing with lesser pay for equal work since women will need to take more personal time.

This election is going to be terribly close. Ohio is still about evenly split.

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You would think that because this is supposedly questions from the American people, they would remember this and limit their bullshit rebuts!. Clearly when they can't even listen to or answer the questions of Americans in a short timespan demonstrates why they can't listen long term. So ugly...glad I voted early...Rosanne will make a fascinating President.

Like.

Everyone in Washington should get monthly butt fucking and/or enemas, and 4x a year ecstasy or magic mushrooms.

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aw hell, chances?! its all tea leaves and chicken bones. popular vote doesnt count for shit anyway. electoral college votes the way they want. here in georgia, only twice since '68 has even a single electoral vote gone democrat.

I hope everyone is paying attention to their congressional races too. I watched Ohio's debate between Mandel and Brown and it'll be horried if the little twerp Mandel wins. He loudly and proudly denounces homosexuality.

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fyi, the numerous battleground polls that came out late Thursday actually increased Obama's chances of winning. Fivethirtyeight, the NY Times blog by Nate Silver (and the only one worth reading) showed Obama going from a 65.7% chance of winning to 70.4%.

fyi, the numerous battleground polls that came out late Thursday actually increased Obama's chances of winning. Fivethirtyeight, the NY Times blog by Nate Silver (and the only one worth reading) showed Obama going from a 65.7% chance of winning to 70.4%.

I LOVE Nate Silver. I have such a nerd crush on him.

Anywho, im nervous about Obama losing, but not freaking out just yet.

That last debate though was just too much, I thought Romney was a big ass, he was so disrespectful to the president. I dont plan on watching the next debate (not that it matters since my state isnt a swing state and its not like im oing to be swayed)

I hope everyone is paying attention to their congressional races too. I watched Ohio's debate between Mandel and Brown and it'll be horried if the little twerp Mandel wins. He loudly and proudly denounces homosexuality.

Yes -- we can't forget about Congress.Hopefully, we'll stop George "macaca" Allen from returning to the Senate and send Tim Kaine instead.Unfortunately, I'll be wasting my time vote for my Rep -- no way Cantor will lose -- they just changed his district -- removing some areas more prone to voting Dem and adding more Repub areas. I hate that he is my Rep.....

As for Romney beating Obama -- not overly worried about that yet. It's tight, but all the info I see is still pointing to Obama taking enough of the swing states to win. IF Romney were to win, it will not be by a blowout.

As for Romney beating Obama -- not overly worried about that yet. It's tight, but all the info I see is still pointing to Obama taking enough of the swing states to win. IF Romney were to win, it will not be by a blowout.

i agree, but Obama is not doing as well I had hoped considering, um... his opponent is Romney or anyone else for that matter that was included in the Republican primary.biggest bunch of loonies, all with scarey ideas and oblivious to reality.

on a good note...latest polls in Connecticut shows Murphy is starting to pull away from Linda McMahon.

Rasmussen Reports did an additional statewide poll in the battleground state of North Carolina which had a 6% lead for Mitt Romney. President Obama was at 46% compared to 52% for Romney. Undecided voters were at 1% in North Carolina but the level of support for Third party candidates was not included in the Rasmussen presidential poll for North Carolina. Rasmussen Reports released their North Carolina presidential poll on October 18, 2012.

I am planning to vote straight Democratic Monday. Of my friend and coworkers I would say about 70% are voting Obama. I think 3 out of the 4 gay people I know in Greensboro are voting for Romney citing the usual reasons: economy, taxes, healthcare, etc.

My Republican friends and family are not excited, at all, about Romney. Most don't say a word about him. They don't put Romney bumper stickers on their cars or stick yard signs in their yards, like they did for Bush. It would be nice if they just stayed home on election day, but I'm sure they'll go vote for him, even though they don't really like him.

It would thrill me, if KY went for Obama. However, I know that will NOT happen. We voted for Carter once and Clinton twice. We have voted for Dem governors the last 40 years, except for once. I guess we'll only vote for a Dem for prez, if that person is white and seems like he could live in a trailor next door. Gore was white, but not redneck enough.

I think 3 out of the 4 gay people I know in Greensboro are voting for Romney citing the usual reasons: economy, taxes, healthcare, etc.

They are super rich and want that tax cut? And they are against Affordable Care? And they are gay?

I understand people being upset about the economy and wanting to try a new Prez on that.

I haven't seen Romney sell a convincing tax plan. And who in their right mind is against affordable care.

Romney has avoided speaking straight on all matters. But I imagine if he were elected, he could speak his mind and say he's all for affordable care and start talking up a way for states to do this without the federal government. Why people in poor or conservative states would believe their state would bother, beats me.

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They are super rich and want that tax cut? And they are against Affordable Care? And they are gay?

I can't completely explain their rationale. One friend in particular doesn't like the Federal government forcing people to obtain insurance coverage and feels a national healthcare plan will increase government spending and undermine states rights. He believes the free market system with sparse government intervention works best. He fears Obama is following a more European philosophy of government where people expect the government to take care of them and we could eventually end up like Greece. When it comes to gay marriage he thinks people should be able to do whatever they want and government should stay out of people's personal lives. He is not thrilled with Romney but doesn't think Obama deserves four more years. I can't properly defend his position but that is the general idea.