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bison 2,224

bison 2,224

I'm sorry to learn of Stanton Friedman's passing. Years ago he took the time to answer a probably naive-seeming question I asked him. This was by postal mail, mind you, long before routine use of the internet made such things relatively quick and easy.

He did real work in advanced aviation and rocketry, later turning to the UFO field, which he regarded as highly important, scientifically. In this he continued courageously, and with great persistence, along the path blazed by rocketry pioneer Dr. Hermann Oberth.

His warning about not doing 'research by proclamation', but really digging into the records and the data, will continue to be valuable council from here on out.

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Not Your Huckleberry 2,514

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Stanton was the first person I reached out to in 2009 when my sister, her kids and myself saw something fairly close that we're still not able to explain. I won't comment on the rest of his work, but he was very helpful and showed genuine interest in what we saw and even offered up possible alternative explanations, not once insinuating that it must've been aliens...LOL. He referred me to Bruce Mackabee, whose only conclusion was that the photos weren't doctored. Already knew that, of course, but that's about as far as we got. Still, I respect the man and his objectivity examining my case, as it were.

I'll miss him.

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Mr Guitar 226

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Sometimes the only way to have an intelligent conversation is to talk to yourself.

Seemingly a nice and intelligent man but misguided IMHO. I think a lot of it was wishful thinking, much like those of us who really want to see something found on Oak Island but he managed to make a career out of it. My sincere condolences to his family.

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Wow, condelences to all the friends and family of Stan Friedman. "Not science by proclamation!" was one of his statements for UFO researchers. He was right about that. You can't prove something without investigating, not just armchair statements, as many of us here sometimes do debating what UFO's actually are. He will be missed by the community and hopefully spurs more to do serious investigative research into UFO's and UFO phenomena, even if they're some natural phenomena like earth sprites, etc.

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the13bats 1,825

the13bats 1,825

I'd like to be able to give a crap but I don't. I don't think his contributions amounted to didly squat.

ouch,

i cant help but like some of the guys i didnt agree with like krantz was one,

i want to believe sometimes these guys get so caught up in being a dear true believer they step in poo and track it on a new white carpet then ego is all in the way, kind of like when clinton swore he didnt have sex with that girl, he knew the world knew he did but he had to try to save face,

i imagine it would be very tough to be a big name like Friedman and have to admit you were wrong.

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the13bats 1,825

the13bats 1,825

i dont know that a "care" in any deep personal emotional way about any of it but i can respect a person even one i disagree with across the board if i think they are being true to themselves, i dont have any respect for those i see as ego driven attention junkies all about look at me, pay me...friedman didnt give me that vibe meldrum is an example of one that does.

psyche101 29,664

I'd be a hypocrite otherwise. While he was alive I did not find any of his contributions noteworthy and felt he undermined critical thinking.

On 5/18/2019 at 4:28 AM, the13bats said:

i cant help but like some of the guys i didnt agree with like krantz was one,

Yeah but Krantz was a scientist. Friedman claimed to one long after he left the field. I found that dishonest using an appeal to authority like that. Krantz continued to write papers and face skeptics all the way through. Friedman didn't. He picked soft targets. I remember some of the believer posters here contacting him in the past and he told them not to talk to anyone skeptical and made skepticism put to be a bad thing. I didn't think he was a good role model for anyone. I'd agree with you on Krantz but not so much Friedman.

On 5/18/2019 at 4:28 AM, the13bats said:

i want to believe sometimes these guys get so caught up in being a dear true believer they step in poo and track it on a new white carpet then ego is all in the way, kind of like when clinton swore he didnt have sex with that girl, he knew the world knew he did but he had to try to save face,

i imagine it would be very tough to be a big name like Friedman and have to admit you were wrong.

Indeed, but wouldn't that offer such an individual even less integrity? Preying on the 37%?