The latest culprit is CNN, a network that was recently embarrassed by a video of reporter Susan Roesgen cutting off tea-party protestors in Chicago, and assailing them with silly liberal talking points. The blog Founding Bloggers showed up on scene and caught her in further arguments with angry citizens who noted her biased coverage. I posted the Founding Bloggers video on Thursday.

CNN does own copyright in its own news footage and, as a general matter, has the right to demand its removal from YouTube. However, as to this particular video, I think Founding Bloggers has a very strong fair use defense. The purpose for Founding Bloggers’ posting of the CNN footage is crystal clear: to comment on and criticize CNN’s reporting on the “Tea Party.” Such a use is right in the heartland of the fair use doctrine; the statute specifically mentions “criticism, comment, [and] news reporting” as protected uses that are “not an infringement of copyright.” 17 U.S.C. § 107. To quickly run through the four fair use factors as they apply here: 1) the use is transformative (for critical comment); 2) the CNN footage is factual, not fictional, and was previously broadcast; 3) the amount used is small in relation to the whole CNN broadcast; and 4) any effect on the market is minuscule (and if fewer people watch CNN because this video causes them to think less of its coverage, that’s simply not cognizable harm). Many fair use cases are difficult, close calls–but, given the facts as I know them, this is an easy one.

That’s a very refined way of saying CNN is full of crap.

So what can be done? Well, Founding Bloggers reports that another blogger grabbed a copy and posted it to YouTube. Time to repost it:

They’ll probably take our copies down, too. If they do, I’ll look for other sites to upload it to, or perhaps try to embed it here on the blog. And I may take Ben Sheffner’s advice and file a DMCA counternotice. If CNN wants to sue me, we can make this a test case.

In the meantime, I encourage every reader with a YouTube account to upload this video to YouTube. I encourage every blogger reading this to embed this same video to your own site.

We have to stop these thugs from reading fair use out of the law whenever they’re embarrassed.

FLASHBACK: Roesgen was one of the reporters primarily responsible for spreading myths about the racially charged “Jena 6″ case. More on that here.

One thing you can is download the file to your computer, and if possible on your blog setup, upload the file to your server and host the file on your server. I have a WordPress.org self-hosted setup and use the plug-in FLV Embed. Especially good for those news sites that don’t let you embed video.

One thing you need to be careful about is how much bandwidth you’re using. I don’t have a very trafficked blog so I don’t really have any problems, but someone like Patterico might.

embarrassed by a video of reporter Susan Roesgen cutting off tea-party protestors in Chicago, and assailing them with silly liberal talking points

Roesgen’s behavior combined with that of her colleague’s sarcasm on the same day — referring to Anderson Cooper’s snide comment about “tea bagging” (and coming from Cooper, I have no doubt that phrase truly was used as a double entendre) — indicates it’s not totally correct to claim CNN is losing steam because it isn’t more opinionated (per below).

I’d imagine that such CNN staffers’ sympathies for the left and, in turn, their irritation at the competitiveness of their rivals (mainly Fox), can’t help but bring out a mix of both advocacy journalism and plain ol’ sour grapes.

NEW YORK (AP), March 27, 2009 — CNN is poised to finish March third in the prime-time weeknight ratings behind Fox News Channel and MSNBC, the first time this has ever happened for the channel that pioneered the cable news genre nearly three decades ago.

CNN says its overall business is healthy and it is not straying from its straight news path. But it is suffering more audience erosion than its rivals since the peak days of the presidential election, further proof that the opinionated prime-time shows on Fox and MSNBC have greater audience loyalty.
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portfolio.com, March 20, 2009:

More evidence that CNN is going to have to find a new strategy fast or risk becoming a cable news also-ran: In the month of March so far, the Time Warner-owned network has come in fourth place in prime time among adults 25 to 54, the key demographic for advertisers, more often than not.

Through March 17, CNN trailed not only Fox News and MSNBC but also its own sister network, Headline News, on nine out of 17 days. On one day, March 13, CNN even drew fewer 25-to-54 viewers than CNBC — the first time that’s happened since November 2007. And of the eight days it finished higher than fourth in the demo, five were either Saturdays or Sundays, typically the lowest rated nights for the news networks.

YouTube is not being stupid. YouTube has to follow very specific rules to enjoy the “Safe Harbor” provisions of the DMCA (Digital Millenium Copyright Act)

If YouTube does not follow those rules, then CNN could sue YouTube (and therefore, Google) for copyright infringement. Google is a deep pockets defendant, and its operations often involve thousands or millions of web sites, so Google must be extremely wary to avoid committing copyright infringement. If Google’s software (YouTube) is responsible for copyright infringement, Google is potentially liable for thousands, millions, or even billions of acts of infringement (if every unauthorized viewing of a copyrighted video is an act of infringement, and there are a million copyrighted videos, each watched an average of 1000 times, that would be 1 billion acts of infringement).

I LOVE it when Patterico gets really ticked. (Not that I want him to feel upset, but his responses are so…productive) Quite a contrast to the tedious squealing and foot stamping often seen around the blogosphere.

Another possibility is to further trim the CNN-camera footage, while leaving all the footage that is not from a CNN camera. This is responsive to the complaint, even though the complaint is meritless, and keeps the issue alive. Has CNN sent its footage down the memory hole? If not, link to CNN for what they aired. Surely, they want that shown to demonstrate their “fairness.” FoxNews showed the CNN clip more than CNN did!
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CNN, the cable news version of AP (Always Propaganda)

I’m a lefty and I agree. Trampling actions like this from CNN just sway power in favour of Corporations over People. Doesn’t matter which political spectrum this exposure is aimed at. Reporter’s abuse like that is still abuse.

The facts cry out that this has precious little to do with the protection of CNN’s intellectual property, and everything to do with silencing dissent and eliminating information integral to our public discourse.

I find that in legal proceedings, sometimes the best defense is offence.

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In fairness to Google, I do not believe its compliance with CNN’s takedown notice was politically motivated. During the 2008 presidential campaign, the Obama campaign received a DMCA notice from NBC, and Google complied with that (just as they complied with DMCA notices to the McCain campaign, on which I was an attorney): http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/115679-NBC_Obama_Campaign_Spar_Over_YouTube_Video.php Google is taking the safe legal path by automatically complying with CNN’s takedown notice, but there is actually no requirement that it do so, and, as the McCain campaign pointed out in this letter, it has nothing to fear if it refuses to comply in the case of clear fair uses.

And your statement “It’s not illegal to make silly copyright claims so CNN can’t be sued” is not quite accurate. The DMCA does provide a cause of action against someone who “knowingly materially misrepresents…that material or activity is infringing.” 17 U.S.C. § 512(f). Those cases are hard to win (and the damages are usually nominal), but the cause of action does exist.

Fight the test case. Let CNN come after you. I think you will get a lot of support in the blogger community. This is fair use, simply put. CNN owns the rights to the content, but cannot inhibit free speech in retaliation.

Ted Turner used to be gutsy guy. He was a great sailor and I’ve read his biography. He got so many demerits in military school that he spent his vacations walking them off and had something like three months of marching off demerits left when he graduated.

I think that marrying Jane Fonda was his big mistake. She must have sucked all the independence out of him, or something.

It’s lame. it’s identity politics gone insurgent, It is unprofessional, and they get anything they deserve for pulling this stunt!

I saw this same tactic at work during Tony Snow’s tenure as the WH spokesman under Bush: the networks would purposely cast hostile, female reporters to sit in WH press-conferences dressed as prototypical professional “everywomen” where they were intended to argue frivolously with Tony; the goal being, pit their iconic female-voter against the “agressive republican white-male” spokesman on camera.

This same discredit-by-caricature tactic is in full display in CNN’s “coverage” of Illinois’ tea-party events. Note Roesgen’s professional pants-suit and cropped “bob” hairdo typical of urban feminists (see Hillary): these were, I’m sure, very carefully combined to augment the political effects of the stunt.

Two questions leap to mind:
1. If the success of the stunt relies entirely on CNN’s brand-loyalty (“anti-CNN?) and Roesgen’s “authority” (which is derived from Roesgen presenting herself as a stand-in for Murphy Brown), then what does it say about both brands that CNN felt the need to pull the stunt off the air?

I’ve had political content pulled from Google. In 2004 my blog (since defunct) had some caricatures that were on the first page of the Google Image Search results for “Michael Moore”. They were unflattering.

About a month before the election, those images disappeared from Google Image Search results — though the originals were still in place on my blog. They didn’t just slip down in rank — they vanished completely.

If you are on a public street, you have every right to tape the events and post it to YouTube. And yes, you can even tape a CNN reporter interacting with protesters. If you shot that tape, you would own the copyright. (Things would get a bit more complicated if the CNN reporter were reading off a prepared script, but that does not appear to be the case here.)

I’m fairly confident that CNN would agree with that. And I believe their takedown notice was not directed at the footage shot by Founding Bloggers. Rather, they objected to the posting of CNN’s own footage. But, for the reasons I explained in my post, I believe Founding Bloggers’ posting of CNN’s footage was a fair use.

What is particularly telling is that they allowed the clip to get on the air. It gives some hint as to just how clueless the media is about where most of the country is on this issue. The media is as out of touch with middle class america as those inside the beltway. Any editor with a clue would have killed that video as soon as he saw it.

I guess CNN doesn’t like being confronted and “free speech”. I think we should all get video camera’s and confront all of these Communist reporters and treasonist politicians! Then post them all over the internet! They can’t stop us all!

After one of the debates I uploaded two vids showing what a bad job CNN did and added them as replies to CNN’s footage. They appeared in the reply list and then both were deleted from the list. (The vids themselves weren’t deleted and weren’t marked as age-restricted, etc. They were just removed from the list of replies while others remained)

youtube.com/watch?v=nIbDAVQMKGM

youtube.com/watch?v=wm0uWz2BS9M

I also have a few others using CNN footage that AFAIK are still available; they’re defensible using the quoted section in the post.

Then someone should put up the Fox clip. CNN can’t take down what Fox owns.

If Fox had no fair use defense to running footage that was broadcast on CNN, then Fox was infringing and Fox doesn’t own the copyright to that footage.

However, for CNN to come right out and claim Fox lacks a “fair use” defense would be very dangerous for CNN. After all, CNN uses footage recorded by other people all the time, either with their permission or on the grounds that it’s “fair use.”

…and just like the swallows returning to Capistrano, Wheezer’s Hairball drops by to traffick in more insane black – helicopter Trutherisms. Run, Hairball, Run! The Dark Rovian Lords of the Underworld are lapping at your doorstep, so we beseech you to run as fast as your little piggy legs can take you!

What we need is a video service hosted in a country that doesn’t honor copyright laws, but only hosts videos of political and news significance. Not only US significance, but also Chinese, Iranian, etc.

This service would ignore claims of fair use, but only permit videos of a limited length. All videos would have a comment section that was open. And special tricks, such as proxy services and fake domains, would be used to overcome censorship abroad and eventually here.

Well…do you dig Beck? Playin’ the Soviet national anthem and Obama the messiah to it? Pictures of Stalin?
The whole socialist/marxist/communist rant?
A question for Patterico’s whole cohort.
Are you down with Beck?
That poor guy with the Hitler sign is just buyin’ what Beck is selling.
Why are you complaining?
You wanted the MSM to cover the teaparties…..the Deliverence extras are just the most obvious signs of Beckers in the crowd.
The rest of you are just more careful not to show your clownface in public.

Mebbe we can get JeffieG in here for a discussion of Beck’s intentionalism……hmmmm …..what is Beck signing with a full wall poster of Stalin and chanting Obama the Messiah to the tune of soviet national anthem?
What are the semiotics and herneumantics of that?
hahahaha!
And now you guys are all pissy cuz some Becker holds up signage at a teaparty and the MSM covers it?
Get real.

Early in its infancy a lot of CNN’s footage was pirated by local and network news for rebroadcast– some with the CNN logo blatantly blocked out. Clear copyright violations and CNN resolved the matter legally. This is no different. Indeed, other nets, like CBS, are notorious for being absurdly anal over copyright infringement of clips and materials from their archives. But they are in the right.

CNN’s ownership of copyright in its own footage is most definitely NOT the end of the story. A copyright owner’s exclusive rights are limited by the fair use doctrine, which is set out in Section 107 of the Copyright Act.

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Well…do you dig Beck? Playin’ the Soviet national anthem and Obama the messiah to it? Pictures of Stalin? The whole socialist/marxist/communist rant?

That type of question should be directed at someone of symbolically and politically greater importance. Someone who doesn’t operate from a TV studio, who doesn’t represent a major political party — much less a country — but who, in fact, runs his affairs out of the Oval Office.

A guy who not only apparently tolerated but actually embraced the ravings and rantings of a fanatic like Jeremiah Wright for 20-some-odd years. A guy who happily tolerated and even embraced such a person only until the glare of publicity and controversy caused, as they say, the shit to hit the fan.

And I’ll start worrying about someone like Beck when he has the audacity and dishonesty to deny the obvious, to deny what’s caught on camera, during his TV show or elsewhere.

London Telegraph:

The White House denied that the president bowed during a meeting on the sidelines of the London conference, though photographs show Mr Obama at least stooped significantly before the 84-year-old monarch.

“It wasn’t a bow. He grasped his hand with two hands, and he’s taller than King Abdullah,” an Obama aide told Politico.com.

The Washington Times called the alleged bow a “shocking display of fealty to a foreign potentate”, which ran contrary to American tradition of not deferring to royalty.

“By bending over to show greater respect to Islam, the US president belittled the power and independence of the United States,” the paper said in an editorial. “Such an act is a traditional obeisance befitting a king’s subjects, not his peer.”

“American presidents do not bow before foreign dignitaries, whether they are princes, kings, or emperors,” said the Weekly Standard’s blog.

The latest culprit is CNN, a network that was recently embarrassed by a video of reporter Susan Roesgen cutting off tea-party protestors in Chicago, and assailing them with silly liberal talking points. Apparently you’ve missed the embarassing video clips of Faux News tea bag blowhard Neil Cavuto making up tea bagger attencence numbers, promoting Faux News coverage of the million man march that occurred before the net even existed on air.

Roesgen was perfectly correct cutting off the teabagger’s ‘he’s a facist’ rant which had nothing to do with her question or taxes. Of course, one has to ask why he was there in the middle of a work day with his kid in the first place. No job? No school? any you wonder why America is falling behind the world.

The party of NO. No vision, no solutions, no future. Birch is dead. Goldwater is dead. Reagan is dead. Falwell is dead. Buckley is dead. Americans have moved on and dispatched conservatism to the dustbin of history.

#116- Like I said, ya gotta beef, take’em to court. Until then, they can pull it down. I have firsthand experience from my days at CBS dealing with this kind of ‘work to rule; thing. If you can make a case against the network, fine, take them to court. But they have deep pockets.

#116- And as a postscript, some of these network legalities restrict inter-divisional use of footage between sports divisions, news divisions and entertainment. It’s all the same company and they can throw up walls. When they want to be pricks about it, they are. Hence CNN’s reaction. But it’s not unique to them. They all do it when it suits their needs.

One of the main purposes of the DMCA’s notice-and-takedown (and counternotice) procedure is to address vast numbers of copyright infringements without going to court. And, though the process is imperfect, it largely succeeds in that goal. Sometimes copyright owners (and sometimes YouTube posters) make improper claims (as I believe CNN did here), and sometimes they do end up in court. But the point is that a copyright owner like CNN should not make claims on videos that are clearly privileged under the fair use doctrine.

#123- You forgot to mention Jon Stewart, who noted with hilarious glee that Fox News hosts were gushing with delight over teabaggers showing off a van full of one million tea bags as a representation of wasteful spending. On July 4, avoid using ‘Weenies In Washington’ as a symbol for the next Faux protest.

You know what, DCSCA, just keep on saying “teabagger”. About 4% of the country, your subculture, will appreciate your inside joke. The rest, who learned about the Boston Tea Party in grade school, will form their own opinion about you.

When a journalist (or someone that calls themselves a journalist) becomes part of the story as opposed to just reporting… the journalist’s employer loses all copyright’s to “fair use”. Interesting argument if you accept the prmise the reporter is part of the story, which could easily be challenged.

Try using that argument to claim copyright forfeiture rights with footage from CBS News of Cronkite interacting with Sadat and Begin to broker a Mideast summit live on the CBS Evening News 30 years ago when Cronkite became ‘part of the story.’ Won’t wash.

Roesgen was perfectly correct cutting off the teabagger’s ‘he’s a facist’ rant which had nothing to do with her question or taxes. Of course, one has to ask why he was there in the middle of a work day with his kid in the first place.

This is false.

The guy with the kid never said Obama was a “fascist” (or “facist”). That was the nut that Roesgen DIDN’T cut off because she wanted to portray him as the face of the protest.

The guy with the kid was articulate and was making a point. That’s why he had to be shut down. And he never said Obama is a “fascist” (or even a “facist,” which I believe is someone who discriminates against others because of their face).

Hardly surprising since even a lot of liberals, certainly in private moments, are guilty of phony tolerance and talking out of both sides of their mouths—eg, how many parents of left-leaning orientation will be perfectly thrilled to proclaim: “My teenage son is the big man on campus! He’s dating the Homecoming…King!!!”)

And I’d say that when Anderson Cooper, who is homosexual, smirked about “teabagging,” he did it in a sly, wink-wink sort of way.

#132- You know what, DCSCA, just keep on saying “teabagger”. About 4% of the country, your subculture, will appreciate your inside joke. The rest, who learned about the Boston Tea Party in grade school, will form their own opinion about you.

Perhaps you and your ilk are due for some remedial grade school history lessons. Such is the poor quality of your American schools these days. There were no tea bags at the Boston Tea Party.

Copyright and Marks are heavy part of my job. CNN has zero legitimate claim on this. They should get pounded by every corner of the web for pulling such nonsense. My God – people made documentaries using FNC footage and there was nothing Newscorp could do about it.

You forgot that it claimed it also worked on the rocket centrifuge program at NASA, and personally met Von Braun. It also signed the Declaration of Independence and stormed the beaches at Normandy, winning eleventy purple hearts in the process.

I don’t think that violating a community’s 1st Amendment rights qualifies as playing it safe.

And your statement “It’s not illegal to make silly copyright claims so CNN can’t be sued” is not quite accurate. The DMCA does provide a cause of action against someone who “knowingly materially misrepresents…that material or activity is infringing.” 17 U.S.C. § 512(f). Those cases are hard to win (and the damages are usually nominal), but the cause of action does exist.

Bad assumption on my part. In that case, it’s an action worth pursuing regardless of nominal damage collection since it would end the practice if they lose and google could no longer do liberal damage control with this method after such a verdict.

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#49- Ted Turner used to be gutsy guy. He was a great sailor and I’ve read his biography. He got so many demerits in military school that he spent his vacations walking them off and had something like three months of marching off demerits left when he graduated.

I think that marrying Jane Fonda was his big mistake. She must have sucked all the independence out of him, or something.

And this has what to do with CNN today? Turner hasn’t been involved with CNN operations for years. In his day, the news was the star, not the anchors, and rotated them in and out. He’d have never stood for promoting them like Anderson Cooper or other ‘star’ newsies. But them CNN today has ex-CBS execs in key positions. That should tell you a lot. Also, Turner was keen on his news reporters to bear in mind they were addressing global audiences, not Americans. It was a better network before he gave up running it. As for Jane… yeah, like you’d kick her out of bed.

ASPCA – You are right, I would not kick her out of my bed, as I would not let her into my home. I find it ironic that you whine about CNN having a bunch of ex 5eeBS execs when earlier today you were bragging about your SeeBS experience.

I have firsthand experience from my days at CBS dealing with this kind of ‘work to rule; thing. If you can make a case against the network, fine, take them to court. But they have deep pockets.

Comment by DCSCA — 4/19/2009 @ 12:50 pm

But them CNN today has ex-CBS execs in key positions. That should tell you a lot. Also, Turner was keen on his news reporters to bear in mind they were addressing global audiences, not Americans. It was a better network before he gave up running it.

[…] has come to my attention that CNN, the Communist News Network, has issued a copyright infringement claim against the Founding Bloggers, who posted a video of Susan Roesgen badgering and arguing with […]

I don’t think that violating a community’s 1st Amendment rights qualifies as playing it safe.

Google is not violating anyone’s First Amendment rights. Only the government can violate one’s First Amendment rights. In fact, Google has First Amendment rights of its own, and it can decide to host, or not host, or take down, any videos it chooses. The party that deserves the blame for the improper takedown here is CNN — not Google.

This claim by CNN of copyright violation is baloney. The video wasn’t filmed by CNN, as far as I know, and it only shows what a silly twit that CNN woman really is — and arrogant, yet uneducated and uninformed.

[…] and determined that. CNN has evidently found the performance of their reporter so ambarrassing that they have had all accounts of it removed from Youtube citing copywrite protection, and are claiming that Roesgen has suddenly taken a planned break. (If […]

#194- It is not improper for CNN to use their copyright claims as leverage to haul down a video clip. It’s legally anal to be sure and a PR disaster. Like arresting someone for tearing the ‘do not remove’ tag off a sofa cushion, but it’s not improper and Google is playing it smart to comply until– or if– there’s a legal solution to it. It’s all around bad for CNN and in this viral information age, they’re just shooting themselves in the foot. But they have every right to do it.

#191- This claim by CNN of copyright violation is baloney. The video wasn’t filmed by CNN, as far as I know, and it only shows what a silly twit that CNN woman really is — and arrogant, yet uneducated and uninformed. Half of this posted video clip is CNN’s. They have every right to claim a copyright violation for public use even if it’s a partial taping. Try videoing a movie in a theatre… it isnt called ‘pirating’ for nothing. And you may want to check her credentials before labelling her uneducated or uninformed. As for arrogance, flustered seems to be a more apt term.

Okay, I’m sure you are right. But isn’t there something…somewhere… that inhibits others from creating a hinderance to free speech?

Shouldn’t there be some group that would form that would be dedicated to making sure that citizens could speak without hinderance? We could call it “The Union to preserve and protect American civil liberties”….or something, something.

But isn’t there something…somewhere… that inhibits others from creating a hinderance to free speech?

Well, we used to call it “civility.”

But more seriously, when it isn’t the government inhibiting free speech (as happened in the last Presidential with Missouri law enforcement officers and officials participating in a “Truth Squad” with the clear intent to inhibit by intimidation McCain campaigners) then it is up to individuals, not the government to assure that other individuals are able to speak without hindrance.

And there are already groups that do respond to such infringements on liberty, some narrowly focused on a specific problem area (like FIRE,) some more broadly focused. You just have to find the right one.

In an idea world, Google/YouTube would individually evaluate each DMCA takedown notice that it receives, and decline to remove videos where it determines the use to be fair or otherwise non-infringing. However, given the vast numbers of DMCA notices it receives (because of the vast amount of unambiguous infringements on YouTube), this is probably not practical. On the McCain campaign, we asked that YouTube at least conduct this review for videos posted by political campaigns, but YouTube declined. See here. Another option worth exploring would be for YouTube to conduct such review upon receipt of a counternotice, and re-post videos sooner than the statutory 10-14 business days if it determines that the use is non-infringing (such as a fair use). That solution alleviates much of the practical problem; only a tiny number of takedown notices result in counternotices.

In sum, while Google/YouTube could be doing a bit more to address the problem of bogus takedowns, I’m fairly sympathetic with its position here. Keep in mind that it’s fighting a massive copyright suit brought by Viacom, and it has a strong interest in showing that its policies mirror the DMCA’s notice-and-takedown process to the T. It’s taking the safe legal route in responding to DMCA notices like CNN’s here, and, from a purely business perspective, it’s hard to blame them.

Founding Bloggers–please, please, please if there is a legal option take it. It is time the big media stop controlling the information that gets to the average person who really is trying to educate themselves.

While your at it, get the damn comments back. It’s past time to let the big boys know that individuals value their right to free speech, problem is we don’t have the money to fight it.

#116- Like I said, ya gotta beef, take’em to court. Until then, they can pull it down. I have firsthand experience from my days at CBS dealing with this kind of ‘work to rule; thing. If you can make a case against the network, fine, take them to court. But they have deep pockets.
Comment by DCSCA — 4/19/2009 @ 12:50 pm

#126- Again, like I said, ya gotta beef, take ‘em to court. By 2011 and a few million bucks in legal fees you may win your point long after nobody cares.
Comment by DCSCA — 4/19/2009 @ 1:03 pm

When a journalist (or someone that calls themselves a journalist) becomes part of the story as opposed to just reporting… the journalist’s employer loses all copyright’s to “fair use”. Interesting argument if you accept the prmise the reporter is part of the story, which could easily be challenged.
Try using that argument to claim copyright forfeiture rights with footage from CBS News of Cronkite interacting with Sadat and Begin to broker a Mideast summit live on the CBS Evening News 30 years ago when Cronkite became ‘part of the story.’ Won’t wash.
Comment by DCSCA — 4/19/2009 @ 1:15 pm

DCSCA blatantly lies about a video we can all see for ourselves. Apparently he, she, or it is counting on CNN being able to keep it under wraps.
Comment by Jim Treacher — 4/19/2009 @ 1:34 pm

#49- Ted Turner used to be gutsy guy. He was a great sailor and I’ve read his biography. He got so many demerits in military school that he spent his vacations walking them off and had something like three months of marching off demerits left when he graduated.
I think that marrying Jane Fonda was his big mistake. She must have sucked all the independence out of him, or something.
And this has what to do with CNN today? Turner hasn’t been involved with CNN operations for years. In his day, the news was the star, not the anchors, and rotated them in and out. He’d have never stood for promoting them like Anderson Cooper or other ’star’ newsies.But them CNN today has ex-CBS execs in key positions. That should tell you a lot. Also, Turner was keen on his news reporters to bear in mind they were addressing global audiences, not Americans. It was a better network before he gave up running it. As for Jane… yeah, like you’d kick her out of bed.
Comment by DCSCA — 4/19/2009 @ 6:25 pm

#182- Yes, it does, psycho. And that’s the way it is.
Comment by DCSCA — 4/19/2009 @ 9:17 pm

Lets see vicious unnecessary personal attack on a person he doesn’t know. Inside knowledge of past work at CBS, claiming and defending knowledge of CNN’s position on this.

Having to mention the one and only love of his life Anderson Cooper. Have you been humping Anderson’s leg lately? We saw those pictures on wireimage of you manhandling Anderson rubbing your balls on Anderson’s leg.

Everyone you have been writing to the one and only insane demented JON KLEIN!!!!!!

Wingnuts, please be kind to my master. If you get him worked up, he is going to want to play later, and I am not sure that I can take another evening of a stuttering version of hide the baloney. Even if he brings the lard.

Why would anyone want to pretend to be Jon Klein and the only ‘pet’ he has is Anderson Cooper.

Worked at CBS, only exCBSer in ‘key position at CNN’, defending CNN’s position, trying to convince you don’t see what you see in that video, vicious personal attack against another poster with the ‘psycho’ comment. It’s Jon Klein, don’t pretend to be someone mentally unstable if you don’t have to.

CNN is unfair not only to people in the streets, but also inside its own walls. CNN recently fired with a humiliating severance package an employee who was on disability dying of brain cancer. CNN also fired with a humiliating severance package an employee who was on disability awaiting double bypass surgery. CNN also fired a small group of hispanic workers in a cruel act to avenge a sexual harassment complaint against a female executive. CNN also fired a sales executive who was on disability recovering from mistreatment from his supervisors.

From: a former employee who worked 16 years in CNN and who resigned tired of CNN’s huge lack of respect for employees.

I encourage every blogger reading this to embed this same video to your own site.

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Atlanta. – Salvadoran journalist Mario Vela passed away 12 days after CNN dismissed him. The company fired this worker despite the knowledge of the seriousness of his illness. Mr. Vela had been agonizing for several months in Washington after his doctors declared there was no hope to save his life. Mario Vela and his family underwent the pressure imposed by CNN in his last days when receiving a document in which their rights of denunciation were questioned and conditioned to the signing of a humiliating severance package. CNN served notice to Mr. Vela via mail explaining that he no longer was to have his disability benefits and the medical insurance from the company. Eva Ventín, president of AGACAMT, the Galician Association Against Moral Harassment at the Workplace, denounces the hypocritical attitude of CNN, that, after putting Mr. Vela in the street, sent the Vice-president of CNN Spanish, Cristopher Crommett, to this employee’s funeral to sing a song and to deliver a pitiful donation. Relatives and friends of Mario Vela were themselves forced to organize a fundraising concert to pay for his medical treatment. “It is difficult to think that a powerful and multi-millionaire company like CNN, that in spite of the world’s economy crisis have announced economic gains, gets to mistreat its professionals and families”.
Mario Vela who passed away at age 34, was named by the mayor of Washington DC “the journalist of the year of 2007” recognition who was emphasized by his support to the Hispanic community and towards the under-privileged. With more than 10 years of experience Mario Vela was news director of Mega Communications and Radio Capital 730 in DC. Vela worked for Channel 30 of Univisión and Radio World in Maryland. AGACAMT wants to bring to the world’s attention other serious cases of labor harassment and mistreatment at CNN as in 2003 the local press of Atlanta related this network with the depression of a journalist who committed suicide. (see original editorial of the Mundo Hispanico about former news director Abel Dimant). The complaints of labor abuses and irregularities had been communicated to Mr. Jim Walton, the President of CNN, but there are no answers neither solutions to protect the victims. AGACAMT denounces that “this it is not the unique case of a journalist dismissed by CNN in a serious condition”.
News anchor Jose Ramon Cotti remains in a hospital in Georgia after several months of pain. The Puerto Rican journalist also was dismissed by CNN while on disability awaiting a delicate heart operation. CNN brought Mr. Cotti and his wife to Atlanta from New York 9 years ago and the company has now totally forgotten this family, not even making a phone call to inquire about its employee’s condition after double bypass surgery and leg amputation and also after Mrs. Cotti’s hospitalization with health problems including stress related condition. This prestigious New York radio journalist, recipient of Several prizes including two awards from ACE. (Award of creative excellence) is just another one of the numerous victims of the dramatic crisis that shakes CNN.
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