Seems all of our efforts are for nothing, Bill. There is another thread going stating that at 5PM Arnold signed the damned thing.

bwiese

10-06-2009, 5:16 PM

Seems all of our efforts are for nothing, Bill. There is another thread going stating that at 5PM Arnold signed the damned thing.

Not necessarily true. Let's not work from one report with a possibly confused reporter.

The CalNRA.com webpage has not been updated, and it's very responsive.

PolishMike

10-06-2009, 5:21 PM

Not necessarily true. Let's not work from one report with a possibly confused reporter.

The CalNRA.com webpage has not been updated, and it's very responsive.

Very responsive? Their last update is listed as 9/18/09

bwiese

10-06-2009, 5:24 PM

Very responsive? Their last update is listed as 9/18/09

That's the last official update based on any necessary action/news. When a breaking event occurs it will be listed.

bwiese

10-06-2009, 7:09 PM

Keep calling, writing, faxing, emailing. The battle still rages on!

Redchevyman

10-06-2009, 7:11 PM

What was this letter off of the state web site?

To the Members of the California State Assembly:
I am returning Assembly Bill 996 without my signature.
This bill is unnecessary because there has been no documentation of a problem with the
theft of ammunition from retail establishments. In addition, I have just signed SB 48 by
Senator Scott into law which will ensure those underage will no longer be purchasing
ammunition.
Requiring retail ammunition sellers to store any handgun ammunition offered for sale in a
manner inaccessible to the purchaser would impose more regulation in California without
a corresponding benefit to public safety. It is not clear how requiring store employees to
obtain and hand customers ammunition instead of letting customers choose their own
ammunition will curb crimes committed with firearms.
For these reasons I am unable to sign this bill.
Sincerely,
Arnold Schwarzenegger

bulgron

10-06-2009, 7:38 PM

What was this letter off of the state web site?

To the Members of the California State Assembly:
I am returning Assembly Bill 996 without my signature.
This bill is unnecessary because there has been no documentation of a problem with the
theft of ammunition from retail establishments. In addition, I have just signed SB 48 by
Senator Scott into law which will ensure those underage will no longer be purchasing
ammunition.
Requiring retail ammunition sellers to store any handgun ammunition offered for sale in a
manner inaccessible to the purchaser would impose more regulation in California without
a corresponding benefit to public safety. It is not clear how requiring store employees to
obtain and hand customers ammunition instead of letting customers choose their own
ammunition will curb crimes committed with firearms.
For these reasons I am unable to sign this bill.
Sincerely,
Arnold Schwarzenegger

Link?

pnkssbtz

10-06-2009, 7:41 PM

I couldn't find the bill searching for it here:

http://gov.ca.gov/bills/#search

So he must not have signed it yet.

*EDIT*
The GoC website says AB996 (different bill?) was vetoed by the gov...

In 2007, the Legislature approved legislation to address the
problem of Internet sales of ammunition to minors by requiring
third parties (e.g., common carriers) to obtain verification of
the buyer's age. (AB 2714 (Torrico).) Governor Schwarzenegger
vetoed that bill and in his veto message stated the following:

It is important to ensure that minors do not use
mail-order or internet sales to obtain access to items
prohibited under current law that could be dangerous
if used improperly. However, current law already
requires sellers to verify the age of a purchaser who
wishes to buy ammunition at the time of sale. By
adding a new requirement that retailers ensure third
party verification of the identity of the purchaser at
time of delivery, this bill could inadvertently
subject legitimate retailers to criminal penalties for
actions that they have no control over. As a result,
this bill could be counter productive by providing a
negligible benefit to public safety while concurrently
discouraging legitimate business.

In addition, this bill would allow local governments
to enact their own measures governing the sale of
ammunition if they are stricter than state law.
Statewide uniformity of the laws regulating firearms
is critical to public safety. By allowing local
governments to proliferate local measures regarding
the sale of ammunition that significantly differ from
state law, this bill could result in inconsistent
regulation, interpretation, and enforcement of
firearms laws by businesses, law enforcement, and the
public.