PBE 3.10 Patch 3: Air Only Patch - Note

I can't stress enough that this is an air only client. These pushes could have been pushed to soon, and may not reflect what we will see once we get a game client update as well. [AkA This may not go live to the PBE with a game client push]

Also Remeber PBE is for -TESTING-, very good chance that the item changes will not go live like this

[Q] - To the Skies! - Now does 40/90/140/190/240 (Changed from 25/75/125/175/225) [NOTE - Air cleint does not list his ratios, no way to know if there was a change - Read Xypherous' post for Ratio change said to come]

Comments

I love these changes on the pbe it makes me feel stronger as a jungler and feel that I am not forced to build a jungle item, bulwark and locket in order to best help my team. Locket will probably a pretty high demand item now, but I don't feel quite as trapped as i did before.

Cause Aegis/Bullwark are broken items. they create a huge problem: Your team needs to have it, and if one team has it before the other team, they will have a decent advantage in teamfights.

Not getting Bullwark for your team is nearly always a bad idea. And the jungler is the one to sacrifice his own gold to give his team more defensive stats.And so the current tanky jungler dominates. Not cause he is that much better, but cause he can build that one item called bullwark faster than the supporter while not losing real laning power (cause he doesn't lane, you understand).

I would actually like to stop posting these things over and over again, but it seems that nobody reads a lot of the comments. There are a lot of people who understand that and are tying to help others understanding it.

Probably. But even then it gives less passive power to the team and the active still needs a bit of timing and positionning.Also the supporter is now a candidate for it. It may be a bit expensive with 2.6k gold for the support (other items cost around 1.8-2.4k), but it will be worth the amount of gold. And at the same time the stats are not as important for the team anylonger so that you NEED to have it mid game (at least not always).

In the end the current PBE changes to Aegis/Locket may not be enough to solve the whole problem that the old Aegis and Bullwark created, but it will reduce the need of such an item.

Ward changes makes supporting more fun and counter warding rewarding. Ward fights will occur more often.New items allowed some champs to be viable and opened up new build paths (BotRK, Nashors Tooth, HP items are good again).Jungle changes (no double golem start or wraith start for the lanes), more gold (most of it currently goes into Bullwark and so into your team instead of yourself)....

Sure, it was/is a lot, and mistakes will happen with such a huge amount of big changes.Maw, SV, BV and the overall defnsive MR itemization was bad. The main reason why that was no problem was Bullwark. You don't need much MR when your team has this item.

But in the end it nearly always turned out well:BotRK was OP and is still too strong, but it can end as an option for ADCs (currently it is a must have at a certain point for most ADCs).SV, BV, Maw and other changes to MR items are great (3.10).BC is still a good item on certain champs in certain situations.Tear + upgrades are good on other champs than Ryze and Anivia (Muramana is still a bit too strong and seems to be watched vrey closely by Riot).Olaf got nerfed into the ground till his "remake". And it looks great.Jayce changes can fix a lot of his problems and the problems the enemy has with him.Sejuani is awesome. Trundle is ok. Udyr is great. Karma is better. LB is better.

The other seasons where more focued on balancing the champs into the game, this season they want the balance the system around the champs and change some champs to fit into it.For some players this maya be too much. I always read the PBE changes, talk about them, test them and so I am prepared for changes and probably know why they are coming. But not everyone wants to invest that much time into changes.

Really? You had only one item path for supporting?then you should know why this is a great change. You need to use your brain again and build items based on what your team needs and not based on what is good in every game.

And supports should not get the item currently. Bullwark is needed mid game already and the support wont have the gold then most of the time. The jungler should get it in at least 95% of the games.

Yeah. Its a good change for junglers. But terrible for the supports. What if my support path doesn't factor in aegis? Or my jungler want it? Or I can't afford it? I don't have a defensive item, that gives me a little armor and health for a relatively cheap price. Supports now get even more shoehorned into Aegis. And Aegis is so expensive on some supports, or if you need to ward a lot. What Armor/Health items are out there?

What supports are happy if they have 400g left after wards and back. Supports like to build in little increments. Supports like locket and aegis on that. They can buy a little every back. If they are going for those items. If the jungler now is I GET LOCKET, there is NO item left for the support to build responsibly on their budget.

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