>>KA
yup. don't bother. I got a lift bowl KA - the machine as a mixer is superb.
the grinder and the pasta attachments are junk. they do not function as expected.

for a hand crank grinder, head for the flea markets / second hand shops.
if all the pieces are there, it'll last a long time.

do _not_ get into a bargain-with-missing-pcs thinking you can get the missing bit and come out ahead. most of the hand crank grinders are no longer in production / parts chain. either it's all there or it's scrap metal.

That's what I expect to do, Dilbert. I just wondered if there were any new gadgets on the market I've overlooked. I doubt you can even buy those old-time crank grinders anymore anywhere outside of a flea market.