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I have seen a few offers that can't be stacked with USAA, the drive for team USA for example. But I think most can such as option credits, holiday cash,ect. USAA fine print reads "This incentive can be combined with all current retail offers unless otherwise stated"

Also , do you happen to know anything about the production start for the new version of Idrive in the 6 series?

Officially no one knows that info currently. Speculation from different websites suggest that spring is the earliest we can see the new idrive for most vehicles.

Why does this matter?
CAUSE EVERY TIME someone says Lexus has better build quality, one should consider what Toyota their Lexus Engine and chassis platform comes out of and how long that part has been tested in the real world!

You can't always sit on the sidelines waiting on new technology, and at some point you have to get into the game, but the upgraded iDrive system, which is basically here now, and the upcoming LCD Gauge display are pretty substantial improvements, and may be worth waiting for.

Officially no one knows that info currently. Speculation from different websites suggest that spring is the earliest we can see the new idrive for most vehicles.

Yeah I have read some of the same things. But the 5 & 7 series have it NOW - I have seen it and it is a nice improvement. And the 3 series gets it starting Nov. 6 series is one of the last - ridiculous given it's a flagship model.

Some is known... take a look at something SS provided to me when I was asking about the new iDrive.

Yes, agree - the new Idrive is worth waiting for. I find is frustrating that BMW keeps the rollout details so secret. No dealer I have spoken to has got back to me about official date I can order to get it in a 650. My thought is BMW does NOT want customers to know about new system -just order now and get the outdated system in a $85,000 car.

In my experience its the product team that decides when something goes into production. That idrive team team may have told the 6 series team that its ready to a certain point and perhaps the 6 series team is waiting on some enhancement (something in the road map) or something else completely to combine at same time of an update. The more pieces the more complex the planning and the smaller the item that can cause a delay.

And we know how Germans like to be precise so until they are sure they are ready, mums the word.

There is already a newer touch idrive that will probably start rolling out next fall or so. You will be outdated either way, might as well buy during the holiday season and enjoy the better rates or just wait for the 2014.

In my experience its the product team that decides when something goes into production. That idrive team team may have told the 6 series team that its ready to a certain point and perhaps the 6 series team is waiting on some enhancement (something in the road map) or something else completely to combine at same time of an update. The more pieces the more complex the planning and the smaller the item that can cause a delay.

And we know how Germans like to be precise so until they are sure they are ready, mums the word.

Yeah, but the cats out of the bag as the new version is in the 5 and 7 series on dealer lots now. And I might be wrong, but it's the same upgrade across the model range so the 6 team should not have to do much - just install the new hardware on the line.
I look at it this way - the newest hardware/tech should go into the line top down. 6 & 7 series first, 1 series last.

There is already a newer touch idrive that will probably start rolling out next fall or so. You will be outdated either way, might as well buy during the holiday season and enjoy the better rates or just wait for the 2014.

Nope, rather be outdated 1 upgrade, not 2. This new version of idrive is the first full refresh to the system since 2008 by the way.

Nope, rather be outdated 1 upgrade, not 2. This new version of idrive is the first full refresh to the system since 2008 by the way.

ACTUALLY - Its not. Their is another upgrade in the pipe for touch and hand writing recognition. Could be the 7 and the 5 are testing grounds prior to going into the other lines.

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Yeah, but the cats out of the bag as the new version is in the 5 and 7 series on dealer lots now. And I might be wrong, but it's the same upgrade across the model range so the 6 team should not have to do much - just install the new hardware on the line.
I look at it this way - the newest hardware/tech should go into the line top down. 6 & 7 series first, 1 series last.

There a lot of factors other factors including production numbers, interfaces with stereos etc. And you are entitled to your opinion but that has not been the case in many automakers.

Anyway this thread has gotten WAAAAY off track.

Jon - thanks for the finance info. I sign next week and can't wait for my short but awesome ED trip.