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Shrewd Saints turn a transfer window profit

Saints spent almost as much money in the latest transfer window as they did in the previous four combined – yet the club still turned a profit in the market this summer.

With an outlay just shy of £60m, the board at St Mary’s have overseen a record period of spending during the last two months. That means Saints have spent just over £122m on players since returning to the cash-rich Premier League in 2012.

In the top flight, only Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal invested more on transfer fees this summer.

Even though Manchester City spent £32m on one defender – Eliaquim Mangala – the defending top flight champions spent less than Saints, just over £50m in total.

Yet Saints were one of just three clubs in the division to make a net profit in the market.

Again, there was little incoming transfer funds, with Vegard Forren – the sole purchase in the January 2013 window – being sold back to Molde for a significant loss on the £4m that had been paid to the Norwegian club for him just a few months earlier.

Last January saw almost no activity either in or out, with Jason Puncheon’s £1.75m move to Crystal Palace the only sale.

That proved something of a calm before the storm, as this summer represented the most eventful yet.

As well as the backing of owner Katharina Liebherr, and the money raised from this year’s five major sales, Saints’ spending power – and that of their Premier League colleagues – has been strengthened by the new television deal that came into effect in 2013.

That saw the club’s earnings from broadcast and prize money jump to £76.9m in 2013/14.

And the Glazier Children just floated 10% of Manure on the NY Stock Exchange to cover for their outlays..........

.............OK until the bubble bursts.

Then I will feel sorry for the REAL fans - but not for the plastic ones.

And the Glazier Children just floated 10% of Manure on the NY Stock Exchange to cover for their outlays..........
.............OK until the bubble bursts.
Then I will feel sorry for the REAL fans - but not for the plastic ones.SaintinCanada

Not quite the asset stripping many had thought was taking place by KL over the summer. The club has considerably strengthened and added depth to last year's squad. And in the process have not only proved that no player is bigger than the club, but have shown others that you can sell your so called star players, replace those with better quality, whilst turning a large profit. When the season finishes and we have earned our place amongst Europe's elite there will be no issues with financial fair play. Things are certainly on the up again. coyr

Not quite the asset stripping many had thought was taking place by KL over the summer. The club has considerably strengthened and added depth to last year's squad. And in the process have not only proved that no player is bigger than the club, but have shown others that you can sell your so called star players, replace those with better quality, whilst turning a large profit. When the season finishes and we have earned our place amongst Europe's elite there will be no issues with financial fair play. Things are certainly on the up again. coyrsotonbigboy88

Les and the team have done a great job this Summer. We've mugged the scousers et al right off this transfer window and brought in high quality replacements for a fraction of their fees. Top business I'd say. Now let's all get behind Ron and the team and push on for an even better season than last. I'm so looking forward to seeing Mane destroy Spurs!

Les and the team have done a great job this Summer. We've mugged the scousers et al right off this transfer window and brought in high quality replacements for a fraction of their fees. Top business I'd say. Now let's all get behind Ron and the team and push on for an even better season than last. I'm so looking forward to seeing Mane destroy Spurs!AdamG10

At one time I was dreading the new season as I could only see a relegation battle looming The potential of our current squad and manager is starting to look like the real deal Imagine how good it could have turned out if we had kept the squad we had and added FF TA GP and DT and of course Ronald Koeman

At one time I was dreading the new season as I could only see a relegation battle looming The potential of our current squad and manager is starting to look like the real deal Imagine how good it could have turned out if we had kept the squad we had and added FF TA GP and DT and of course Ronald KoemanSaintsayer II

Saintsayer II wrote:
At one time I was dreading the new season as I could only see a relegation battle looming The potential of our current squad and manager is starting to look like the real deal Imagine how good it could have turned out if we had kept the squad we had and added FF TA GP and DT and of course Ronald Koeman

I genuinely believe that come seasons end some of the pelicans that left might kick themselves. Particularly Adam Lallana who I think will be frustrated being an impact sub given he was once the main man.

[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote:
At one time I was dreading the new season as I could only see a relegation battle looming The potential of our current squad and manager is starting to look like the real deal Imagine how good it could have turned out if we had kept the squad we had and added FF TA GP and DT and of course Ronald Koeman[/p][/quote]I genuinely believe that come seasons end some of the pelicans that left might kick themselves. Particularly Adam Lallana who I think will be frustrated being an impact sub given he was once the main man.Chipmonk1

Saintsayer II wrote:
At one time I was dreading the new season as I could only see a relegation battle looming The potential of our current squad and manager is starting to look like the real deal Imagine how good it could have turned out if we had kept the squad we had and added FF TA GP and DT and of course Ronald Koeman

I genuinely believe that come seasons end some of the pelicans that left might kick themselves. Particularly Adam Lallana who I think will be frustrated being an impact sub given he was once the main man.

Shaw could also regret his move Him and Adam not playing regular games does immense damage to our international chances

[quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote:
At one time I was dreading the new season as I could only see a relegation battle looming The potential of our current squad and manager is starting to look like the real deal Imagine how good it could have turned out if we had kept the squad we had and added FF TA GP and DT and of course Ronald Koeman[/p][/quote]I genuinely believe that come seasons end some of the pelicans that left might kick themselves. Particularly Adam Lallana who I think will be frustrated being an impact sub given he was once the main man.[/p][/quote]Shaw could also regret his move Him and Adam not playing regular games does immense damage to our international chancesSaintsayer II

Saintsayer II wrote:
At one time I was dreading the new season as I could only see a relegation battle looming The potential of our current squad and manager is starting to look like the real deal Imagine how good it could have turned out if we had kept the squad we had and added FF TA GP and DT and of course Ronald Koeman

I genuinely believe that come seasons end some of the pelicans that left might kick themselves. Particularly Adam Lallana who I think will be frustrated being an impact sub given he was once the main man.

Shaw could also regret his move Him and Adam not playing regular games does immense damage to our international chances

[quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote:
At one time I was dreading the new season as I could only see a relegation battle looming The potential of our current squad and manager is starting to look like the real deal Imagine how good it could have turned out if we had kept the squad we had and added FF TA GP and DT and of course Ronald Koeman[/p][/quote]I genuinely believe that come seasons end some of the pelicans that left might kick themselves. Particularly Adam Lallana who I think will be frustrated being an impact sub given he was once the main man.[/p][/quote]Shaw could also regret his move Him and Adam not playing regular games does immense damage to our international chancesSaintsayer II

I am impressed with the loan signings just as much as I am with the permanent ones, Ryan Bertrand and Toby Toby Alderweireld are top signings and both come with the option to buy at the end of the season, Tadic has it in his locker to become a top top creative midfielder in the Premier League, and Pelle you can see he play on confidence and he's a build old unit who will get us 20 goals a season easily,

Keeping Jrod, Morgan and Jack was a master stroke, as important as the signings, I don't know what Koeman said and I don't care as it worked.

The signing of the summer is Koeman himself, he's bought in a great backroom staff and players who will take the club forward, I am really looking forward to our meltdown continuing.

I don't blame Chambers or Rickie leaving, Calum was 2nd choice behind Clyne and Rickie wanted to play for his boyhood club but as for Shaw, Lallana and Lovrat WTFILN

I am impressed with the loan signings just as much as I am with the permanent ones, Ryan Bertrand and Toby Toby Alderweireld are top signings and both come with the option to buy at the end of the season, Tadic has it in his locker to become a top top creative midfielder in the Premier League, and Pelle you can see he play on confidence and he's a build old unit who will get us 20 goals a season easily,
Keeping Jrod, Morgan and Jack was a master stroke, as important as the signings, I don't know what Koeman said and I don't care as it worked.
The signing of the summer is Koeman himself, he's bought in a great backroom staff and players who will take the club forward, I am really looking forward to our meltdown continuing.
I don't blame Chambers or Rickie leaving, Calum was 2nd choice behind Clyne and Rickie wanted to play for his boyhood club but as for Shaw, Lallana and Lovrat WTFILNOutside of the Box

As Elvis would have said:- "TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS!"
Don't wish to be at all negative, but any 'profit' still has to cover the burgeoning expenses at Staplewood and the fact that our larger squad will presumably be paid pretty well! (and has SMS been fully paid for?)
All the doomsters and cynics in the mainstream media have been proved wrong, especially Messrs Harman and a Samuel in that rag the Mail..
Can't wait for the game against the Magpies. Let's fill the stadium and get behind he lads. COYR! The Stripes are Back!

As Elvis would have said:- "TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS!"
Don't wish to be at all negative, but any 'profit' still has to cover the burgeoning expenses at Staplewood and the fact that our larger squad will presumably be paid pretty well! (and has SMS been fully paid for?)
All the doomsters and cynics in the mainstream media have been proved wrong, especially Messrs Harman and a Samuel in that rag the Mail..
Can't wait for the game against the Magpies. Let's fill the stadium and get behind he lads. COYR! The Stripes are Back!HighcliffeSaint44

tissier75 wrote:
Do Saints fan's really give a sh! t if Lallana, Shaw, Chambers, Lovern and Lambert regret that they went, they made there bed now they have to lay init.

They are distant memories now.........but we will recover those memories when they return to St. Marys, Some in a good way and some not.

[quote][p][bold]tissier75[/bold] wrote:
Do Saints fan's really give a sh! t if Lallana, Shaw, Chambers, Lovern and Lambert regret that they went, they made there bed now they have to lay init.[/p][/quote]They are distant memories now.........but we will recover those memories when they return to St. Marys, Some in a good way and some not.Clever Dick

I mentioned before the second halves at Anfield and West Ham as huge encouragement for all of us after the "summer of our discontent" (apologies to Shakespeare) and then the final 2 signings have to be the cream in the coffee.

Many completely misjudged what was going on at St. Mary's, myself included, but for most I really believe we were starved of Information, albeit understandable. First and foremost football is a business and the books have to balance, as Poopey found out to their considerable cost.

I have only two concerns and first I do wish Jack Cork's contract had been sorted and second, that the January window does not include any OUTS - we want everyone now!

In the unlikely event now of any INS then being needed, at least we have a good stash in the safe! Everything looks pretty good right now.

Up the Saints!

I mentioned before the second halves at Anfield and West Ham as huge encouragement for all of us after the "summer of our discontent" (apologies to Shakespeare) and then the final 2 signings have to be the cream in the coffee.
Many completely misjudged what was going on at St. Mary's, myself included, but for most I really believe we were starved of Information, albeit understandable. First and foremost football is a business and the books have to balance, as Poopey found out to their considerable cost.
I have only two concerns and first I do wish Jack Cork's contract had been sorted and second, that the January window does not include any OUTS - we want everyone now!
In the unlikely event now of any INS then being needed, at least we have a good stash in the safe! Everything looks pretty good right now.
Up the Saints!saintbobby

saintbobby wrote:
I mentioned before the second halves at Anfield and West Ham as huge encouragement for all of us after the &quot;summer of our discontent" (apologies to Shakespeare) and then the final 2 signings have to be the cream in the coffee.

Many completely misjudged what was going on at St. Mary's, myself included, but for most I really believe we were starved of Information, albeit understandable. First and foremost football is a business and the books have to balance, as Poopey found out to their considerable cost.

I have only two concerns and first I do wish Jack Cork's contract had been sorted and second, that the January window does not include any OUTS - we want everyone now!

In the unlikely event now of any INS then being needed, at least we have a good stash in the safe! Everything looks pretty good right now.

Up the Saints!

Hear hear! Cork MUST be given a new contract!!
Our most undervalued player by a long stretch.
That we were only offered £3.0m by Palace(allegedly) is an insult to the player,the fans and the Club

[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote:
I mentioned before the second halves at Anfield and West Ham as huge encouragement for all of us after the "summer of our discontent" (apologies to Shakespeare) and then the final 2 signings have to be the cream in the coffee.
Many completely misjudged what was going on at St. Mary's, myself included, but for most I really believe we were starved of Information, albeit understandable. First and foremost football is a business and the books have to balance, as Poopey found out to their considerable cost.
I have only two concerns and first I do wish Jack Cork's contract had been sorted and second, that the January window does not include any OUTS - we want everyone now!
In the unlikely event now of any INS then being needed, at least we have a good stash in the safe! Everything looks pretty good right now.
Up the Saints![/p][/quote]Hear hear! Cork MUST be given a new contract!!
Our most undervalued player by a long stretch.
That we were only offered £3.0m by Palace(allegedly) is an insult to the player,the fans and the ClubHighcliffeSaint44

Blackwaterblue wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.

OH BUT IT IS !! ISN'T IT ...

.. and that must hurt .. or you wouldn't be on this site.

[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.[/p][/quote]OH BUT IT IS !! ISN'T IT ...
.. and that must hurt .. or you wouldn't be on this site.Alicesdad

Blackwaterblue wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.

Wrong! As usual.

Go back to League 2, to be swiftly followed by the Conference.

WTFILN!

[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.[/p][/quote]Wrong! As usual.
Go back to League 2, to be swiftly followed by the Conference.
WTFILN!TPFKARTSNINZ

reedhunter1 wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR

Les has NOT done a great job. He is a bare faced lair and an incompetent. People are so easily bought. The way I see it Koeman has well and truly got us out of a hole. How quickly do people forget that he when on camera and told fans that they we would not be selling anyone only to sell Rickie Lambert the very next day. Cortese gets the blame for Gaston Ramirez and Osvaldo bit what was Les's role then. Basically he buts players (Taider ? ) than no manager wants to play.

Well done Les

[quote][p][bold]reedhunter1[/bold] wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR[/p][/quote]Les has NOT done a great job. He is a bare faced lair and an incompetent. People are so easily bought. The way I see it Koeman has well and truly got us out of a hole. How quickly do people forget that he when on camera and told fans that they we would not be selling anyone only to sell Rickie Lambert the very next day. Cortese gets the blame for Gaston Ramirez and Osvaldo bit what was Les's role then. Basically he buts players (Taider ? ) than no manager wants to play.
Well done LesJesus_02

tissier75 wrote:
Do Saints fan's really give a sh! t if Lallana, Shaw, Chambers, Lovern and Lambert regret that they went, they made there bed now they have to lay init.

This one does give a fecal movement. The point being that when any members of our current squad get approached by a "big club" they will look at those that went before them and think "you know what, I don't fancy sitting in a sports car seat watching others play football, even if it means truck loads of cash. I'll stay here where I'm appreciated and get to play thanks very much." Also in fairness I am very bitter toward DL and AL. Not so much because they went but the manner in which they went. So if they have a mare of a season and long for the days of being lauded by thousands of Saints fans that's fine by me.

[quote][p][bold]tissier75[/bold] wrote:
Do Saints fan's really give a sh! t if Lallana, Shaw, Chambers, Lovern and Lambert regret that they went, they made there bed now they have to lay init.[/p][/quote]This one does give a fecal movement. The point being that when any members of our current squad get approached by a "big club" they will look at those that went before them and think "you know what, I don't fancy sitting in a sports car seat watching others play football, even if it means truck loads of cash. I'll stay here where I'm appreciated and get to play thanks very much." Also in fairness I am very bitter toward DL and AL. Not so much because they went but the manner in which they went. So if they have a mare of a season and long for the days of being lauded by thousands of Saints fans that's fine by me.Chipmonk1

Saintsayer II wrote:
At one time I was dreading the new season as I could only see a relegation battle looming The potential of our current squad and manager is starting to look like the real deal Imagine how good it could have turned out if we had kept the squad we had and added FF TA GP and DT and of course Ronald Koeman

I genuinely believe that come seasons end some of the pelicans that left might kick themselves. Particularly Adam Lallana who I think will be frustrated being an impact sub given he was once the main man.

Shaw could also regret his move Him and Adam not playing regular games does immense damage to our international chances

Not 100% convinced that means anything to many of our younger players. Whereas the obscene amounts they are earning in wages endorsement etc seem to speak very loudly to them indeed.
Besides which wtf do I care what these two do.

[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote:
At one time I was dreading the new season as I could only see a relegation battle looming The potential of our current squad and manager is starting to look like the real deal Imagine how good it could have turned out if we had kept the squad we had and added FF TA GP and DT and of course Ronald Koeman[/p][/quote]I genuinely believe that come seasons end some of the pelicans that left might kick themselves. Particularly Adam Lallana who I think will be frustrated being an impact sub given he was once the main man.[/p][/quote]Shaw could also regret his move Him and Adam not playing regular games does immense damage to our international chances[/p][/quote]Not 100% convinced that means anything to many of our younger players. Whereas the obscene amounts they are earning in wages endorsement etc seem to speak very loudly to them indeed.
Besides which wtf do I care what these two do.jls217

Blackwaterblue wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.

Just a tad better, oh, and more successful than the bluebottles living on the carcasses at the other end of the M27. Likely to remain that way for many a long year too. Is that why you come on here so you can talk football.

[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.[/p][/quote]Just a tad better, oh, and more successful than the bluebottles living on the carcasses at the other end of the M27. Likely to remain that way for many a long year too. Is that why you come on here so you can talk football.jls217

Blackwaterblue wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.

Loss, Loss, Loss and Div2 it is!

I was one of the merchants of doom but I'm very happy with the squad we've ended up with and our manager is going to carve a name here to rival Ted and Lawrie. Fancy improving your team and making a profit at the same time!

Have you gone all green or is that just the slime from your bottom dwelling and your sisters fanny?

Anyone else happy to Seed back to his usual self?

[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.[/p][/quote]Loss, Loss, Loss and Div2 it is!
I was one of the merchants of doom but I'm very happy with the squad we've ended up with and our manager is going to carve a name here to rival Ted and Lawrie. Fancy improving your team and making a profit at the same time!
Have you gone all green or is that just the slime from your bottom dwelling and your sisters fanny?[/p][/quote]Anyone else happy to Seed back to his usual self?Chipmonk1

reedhunter1 wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR

Les has NOT done a great job. He is a bare faced lair and an incompetent. People are so easily bought. The way I see it Koeman has well and truly got us out of a hole. How quickly do people forget that he when on camera and told fans that they we would not be selling anyone only to sell Rickie Lambert the very next day. Cortese gets the blame for Gaston Ramirez and Osvaldo bit what was Les's role then. Basically he buts players (Taider ? ) than no manager wants to play.

Well done Les

Yet another ID for our got bothering bore. SSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
!!!!!

[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]reedhunter1[/bold] wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR[/p][/quote]Les has NOT done a great job. He is a bare faced lair and an incompetent. People are so easily bought. The way I see it Koeman has well and truly got us out of a hole. How quickly do people forget that he when on camera and told fans that they we would not be selling anyone only to sell Rickie Lambert the very next day. Cortese gets the blame for Gaston Ramirez and Osvaldo bit what was Les's role then. Basically he buts players (Taider ? ) than no manager wants to play.
Well done Les[/p][/quote]Yet another ID for our got bothering bore. SSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
!!!!!jls217

saintbobby wrote:
I mentioned before the second halves at Anfield and West Ham as huge encouragement for all of us after the &quot;summer of our discontent" (apologies to Shakespeare) and then the final 2 signings have to be the cream in the coffee.

Many completely misjudged what was going on at St. Mary's, myself included, but for most I really believe we were starved of Information, albeit understandable. First and foremost football is a business and the books have to balance, as Poopey found out to their considerable cost.

I have only two concerns and first I do wish Jack Cork's contract had been sorted and second, that the January window does not include any OUTS - we want everyone now!

In the unlikely event now of any INS then being needed, at least we have a good stash in the safe! Everything looks pretty good right now.

Up the Saints!

Jacks contract can still be sorted out at any time. Hopefully we will here something in the next couple of months.

[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote:
I mentioned before the second halves at Anfield and West Ham as huge encouragement for all of us after the "summer of our discontent" (apologies to Shakespeare) and then the final 2 signings have to be the cream in the coffee.
Many completely misjudged what was going on at St. Mary's, myself included, but for most I really believe we were starved of Information, albeit understandable. First and foremost football is a business and the books have to balance, as Poopey found out to their considerable cost.
I have only two concerns and first I do wish Jack Cork's contract had been sorted and second, that the January window does not include any OUTS - we want everyone now!
In the unlikely event now of any INS then being needed, at least we have a good stash in the safe! Everything looks pretty good right now.
Up the Saints![/p][/quote]Jacks contract can still be sorted out at any time. Hopefully we will here something in the next couple of months.Jesus_02

reedhunter1 wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR

Les has NOT done a great job. He is a bare faced lair and an incompetent. People are so easily bought. The way I see it Koeman has well and truly got us out of a hole. How quickly do people forget that he when on camera and told fans that they we would not be selling anyone only to sell Rickie Lambert the very next day. Cortese gets the blame for Gaston Ramirez and Osvaldo bit what was Les's role then. Basically he buts players (Taider ? ) than no manager wants to play.

Well done Les

That's your opinion and in mine yours is not very accurate, I cant see les telling NC what to do and not to do can you? Osvaldo was a mistake which can happen but all involved need to take the can for that one, including messer poxychinos for saying "its ok I trust him to behave and I will personally take care of him and make sure he does". Taider was a incident of circumstance, we needed to offload Osvaldo quick smart and nobody wanted him so some shrewd business needed to be done, we took taider as part if the agreement, he wasn't part of the plan, he was assessed and it didn't work out so he was sent home, but we got rid of Osvaldo, and we dint have to pay taider wages...i actually would congratulate him for that bit of business. You really can't see that what has been done is an improvement? A fresh team with equal if not better quality, more depth and half the price?
Lallana wanted a fasttrack to the CL and he got it, he was actually phoning the club wanting to talk about his future and transfer whilst in brazil, when he should have been 100% focused on the team and the job I hand, he was given a opportunity to represent his country and all he can think about is making his bed before he gets home, how unprofessional, good riddance I say.

[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]reedhunter1[/bold] wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR[/p][/quote]Les has NOT done a great job. He is a bare faced lair and an incompetent. People are so easily bought. The way I see it Koeman has well and truly got us out of a hole. How quickly do people forget that he when on camera and told fans that they we would not be selling anyone only to sell Rickie Lambert the very next day. Cortese gets the blame for Gaston Ramirez and Osvaldo bit what was Les's role then. Basically he buts players (Taider ? ) than no manager wants to play.
Well done Les[/p][/quote]That's your opinion and in mine yours is not very accurate, I cant see les telling NC what to do and not to do can you? Osvaldo was a mistake which can happen but all involved need to take the can for that one, including messer poxychinos for saying "its ok I trust him to behave and I will personally take care of him and make sure he does". Taider was a incident of circumstance, we needed to offload Osvaldo quick smart and nobody wanted him so some shrewd business needed to be done, we took taider as part if the agreement, he wasn't part of the plan, he was assessed and it didn't work out so he was sent home, but we got rid of Osvaldo, and we dint have to pay taider wages...i actually would congratulate him for that bit of business. You really can't see that what has been done is an improvement? A fresh team with equal if not better quality, more depth and half the price?
Lallana wanted a fasttrack to the CL and he got it, he was actually phoning the club wanting to talk about his future and transfer whilst in brazil, when he should have been 100% focused on the team and the job I hand, he was given a opportunity to represent his country and all he can think about is making his bed before he gets home, how unprofessional, good riddance I say.rednwhite72

reedhunter1 wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR

Les has NOT done a great job. He is a bare faced lair and an incompetent. People are so easily bought. The way I see it Koeman has well and truly got us out of a hole. How quickly do people forget that he when on camera and told fans that they we would not be selling anyone only to sell Rickie Lambert the very next day. Cortese gets the blame for Gaston Ramirez and Osvaldo bit what was Les's role then. Basically he buts players (Taider ? ) than no manager wants to play.

Well done Les

Taider was a loan deal so it did not cost us anything in the end. Cortese
is to blame for Osvaldo and Gaston because he is the one who brought them to the club. How can you blame Les when he was not in charge at the time of the purchases.

[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]reedhunter1[/bold] wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR[/p][/quote]Les has NOT done a great job. He is a bare faced lair and an incompetent. People are so easily bought. The way I see it Koeman has well and truly got us out of a hole. How quickly do people forget that he when on camera and told fans that they we would not be selling anyone only to sell Rickie Lambert the very next day. Cortese gets the blame for Gaston Ramirez and Osvaldo bit what was Les's role then. Basically he buts players (Taider ? ) than no manager wants to play.
Well done Les[/p][/quote]Taider was a loan deal so it did not cost us anything in the end. Cortese
is to blame for Osvaldo and Gaston because he is the one who brought them to the club. How can you blame Les when he was not in charge at the time of the purchases.saints1998

saintbobby wrote:
I mentioned before the second halves at Anfield and West Ham as huge encouragement for all of us after the &quot;summer of our discontent" (apologies to Shakespeare) and then the final 2 signings have to be the cream in the coffee.

Many completely misjudged what was going on at St. Mary's, myself included, but for most I really believe we were starved of Information, albeit understandable. First and foremost football is a business and the books have to balance, as Poopey found out to their considerable cost.

I have only two concerns and first I do wish Jack Cork's contract had been sorted and second, that the January window does not include any OUTS - we want everyone now!

In the unlikely event now of any INS then being needed, at least we have a good stash in the safe! Everything looks pretty good right now.

Up the Saints!

Hear hear! Cork MUST be given a new contract!!
Our most undervalued player by a long stretch.
That we were only offered £3.0m by Palace(allegedly) is an insult to the player,the fans and the Club

£6 million ( not £3 million) formal bid for Cork from Palace was turned down by Saints......

[quote][p][bold]HighcliffeSaint44[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote:
I mentioned before the second halves at Anfield and West Ham as huge encouragement for all of us after the "summer of our discontent" (apologies to Shakespeare) and then the final 2 signings have to be the cream in the coffee.
Many completely misjudged what was going on at St. Mary's, myself included, but for most I really believe we were starved of Information, albeit understandable. First and foremost football is a business and the books have to balance, as Poopey found out to their considerable cost.
I have only two concerns and first I do wish Jack Cork's contract had been sorted and second, that the January window does not include any OUTS - we want everyone now!
In the unlikely event now of any INS then being needed, at least we have a good stash in the safe! Everything looks pretty good right now.
Up the Saints![/p][/quote]Hear hear! Cork MUST be given a new contract!!
Our most undervalued player by a long stretch.
That we were only offered £3.0m by Palace(allegedly) is an insult to the player,the fans and the Club[/p][/quote]£6 million ( not £3 million) formal bid for Cork from Palace was turned down by Saints......Simms1

"I can smell what happens in a team and I can smell what happens in a dressing room".

Speaks volumes.

Good Saints Stats here by the way-:

http://www.transferm
arkt.co.uk/jumplist/
startseite/verein/18
0

Love this quote from Ronald Koeman.
"I can smell what happens in a team and I can smell what happens in a dressing room".
Speaks volumes.
Good Saints Stats here by the way-:
http://www.transferm
arkt.co.uk/jumplist/
startseite/verein/18
0deepheat

I think a lot of people have some apologies to make to Ralph,
Les and Katrina their master stroke has been Koeman and his respect within the game that big player want to work with him and his knowledge of good players that aren't mega bucks.
Tadic at his price is the bargain of the transfer window.

I think a lot of people have some apologies to make to Ralph,
Les and Katrina their master stroke has been Koeman and his respect within the game that big player want to work with him and his knowledge of good players that aren't mega bucks.
Tadic at his price is the bargain of the transfer window.jerseysaint

Blackwaterblue wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.

Prophet, Prophet, Prophet! The message is clear .....
Saintism leads to football divinity and joy.
Skuntism leads to purgatory and doom. Your irrelevance as a football club’s not so good is it.

[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.[/p][/quote]Prophet, Prophet, Prophet! The message is clear .....
Saintism leads to football divinity and joy.
Skuntism leads to purgatory and doom. Your irrelevance as a football club’s not so good is it.Mush On The Beach

On the one hand I love the optimism on here following the close of the transfer window, on the other I am amazed how quickly some of our fans have written off the achievements of last years team simply because we hate the way in which some of them left. The jury must also remain out on what appear to be our very good new signings because at present they are unproven in the Premier League. Let`s just see where we are come the end of October shall we before we get too carried away.

On the one hand I love the optimism on here following the close of the transfer window, on the other I am amazed how quickly some of our fans have written off the achievements of last years team simply because we hate the way in which some of them left. The jury must also remain out on what appear to be our very good new signings because at present they are unproven in the Premier League. Let`s just see where we are come the end of October shall we before we get too carried away.Poole Tom

Blackwaterblue wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.

Loss, Loss, Loss and Div2 it is!

I was one of the merchants of doom but I'm very happy with the squad we've ended up with and our manager is going to carve a name here to rival Ted and Lawrie. Fancy improving your team and making a profit at the same time!

Have you gone all green or is that just the slime from your bottom dwelling and your sisters fanny?

Anyone else happy to Seed back to his usual self?

He does have an aptitude for marshalling language with remarkable precision and appropriateness.

[quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.[/p][/quote]Loss, Loss, Loss and Div2 it is!
I was one of the merchants of doom but I'm very happy with the squad we've ended up with and our manager is going to carve a name here to rival Ted and Lawrie. Fancy improving your team and making a profit at the same time!
Have you gone all green or is that just the slime from your bottom dwelling and your sisters fanny?[/p][/quote]Anyone else happy to Seed back to his usual self?[/p][/quote]He does have an aptitude for marshalling language with remarkable precision and appropriateness.Confucious

Blackwaterblue wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.

On what evidence do you base that stupid comment on?
I mean, really? Not that you're particularly worth having a debate with, but:
We are currently sitting 8th in the Premiership!
That means in the Premiership alone there are 12 teams "not so good" as ours?
As for Peewartsmuff where do think they lie in your scale of "teams not so good"? If, and this is a big assumption on the evidence you've provided, you can understand the term - that was a rhetorical question. Here's a clue, I don't want to discuss anymore with you.

[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.[/p][/quote]On what evidence do you base that stupid comment on?
I mean, really? Not that you're particularly worth having a debate with, but:
We are currently sitting 8th in the Premiership!
That means in the Premiership alone there are 12 teams "not so good" as ours?
As for Peewartsmuff where do think they lie in your scale of "teams not so good"? If, and this is a big assumption on the evidence you've provided, you can understand the term - that was a rhetorical question. Here's a clue, I don't want to discuss anymore with you.Mister E

Blackwaterblue wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.

Wow, I never thought I'd see the day - a skate with an understanding of grammar!

Take a photo everyone

[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.[/p][/quote]Wow, I never thought I'd see the day - a skate with an understanding of grammar!
Take a photo everyoneEricMartin'sHat

reedhunter1 wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR

Les has NOT done a great job. He is a bare faced lair and an incompetent. People are so easily bought. The way I see it Koeman has well and truly got us out of a hole. How quickly do people forget that he when on camera and told fans that they we would not be selling anyone only to sell Rickie Lambert the very next day. Cortese gets the blame for Gaston Ramirez and Osvaldo bit what was Les's role then. Basically he buts players (Taider ? ) than no manager wants to play.

Well done Les

Must be getting near Christmas Jesus is back in his shed, only problem is I doubt the three wise men will turn up this year.

[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]reedhunter1[/bold] wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR[/p][/quote]Les has NOT done a great job. He is a bare faced lair and an incompetent. People are so easily bought. The way I see it Koeman has well and truly got us out of a hole. How quickly do people forget that he when on camera and told fans that they we would not be selling anyone only to sell Rickie Lambert the very next day. Cortese gets the blame for Gaston Ramirez and Osvaldo bit what was Les's role then. Basically he buts players (Taider ? ) than no manager wants to play.
Well done Les[/p][/quote]Must be getting near Christmas Jesus is back in his shed, only problem is I doubt the three wise men will turn up this year.fascia123

reedhunter1 wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR

Les has NOT done a great job. He is a bare faced lair and an incompetent. People are so easily bought. The way I see it Koeman has well and truly got us out of a hole. How quickly do people forget that he when on camera and told fans that they we would not be selling anyone only to sell Rickie Lambert the very next day. Cortese gets the blame for Gaston Ramirez and Osvaldo bit what was Les's role then. Basically he buts players (Taider ? ) than no manager wants to play.

Well done Les

Must be Christmas Jesus back in his shed, I don't think the three wise men seem to be on hand this year though.

[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]reedhunter1[/bold] wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR[/p][/quote]Les has NOT done a great job. He is a bare faced lair and an incompetent. People are so easily bought. The way I see it Koeman has well and truly got us out of a hole. How quickly do people forget that he when on camera and told fans that they we would not be selling anyone only to sell Rickie Lambert the very next day. Cortese gets the blame for Gaston Ramirez and Osvaldo bit what was Les's role then. Basically he buts players (Taider ? ) than no manager wants to play.
Well done Les[/p][/quote]Must be Christmas Jesus back in his shed, I don't think the three wise men seem to be on hand this year though.fascia123

Blackwaterblue wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.

Yes, profit numpty ie making more money from sales than expenditure. That's the way normal business does things. In your case it was done by fiddling the books and stealing from local charities. And you still managed to get relegated. Silly little man.

[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.[/p][/quote]Yes, profit numpty ie making more money from sales than expenditure. That's the way normal business does things. In your case it was done by fiddling the books and stealing from local charities. And you still managed to get relegated. Silly little man.Shareholder

reedhunter1 wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR

Les has NOT done a great job. He is a bare faced lair and an incompetent. People are so easily bought. The way I see it Koeman has well and truly got us out of a hole. How quickly do people forget that he when on camera and told fans that they we would not be selling anyone only to sell Rickie Lambert the very next day. Cortese gets the blame for Gaston Ramirez and Osvaldo bit what was Les's role then. Basically he buts players (Taider ? ) than no manager wants to play.

Well done Les

he actually said no one will be sold unless it was in the best interests of saints..which it was..massive profits and replaced with quality and with money in the bank well done to les ralph and ron

[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]reedhunter1[/bold] wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR[/p][/quote]Les has NOT done a great job. He is a bare faced lair and an incompetent. People are so easily bought. The way I see it Koeman has well and truly got us out of a hole. How quickly do people forget that he when on camera and told fans that they we would not be selling anyone only to sell Rickie Lambert the very next day. Cortese gets the blame for Gaston Ramirez and Osvaldo bit what was Les's role then. Basically he buts players (Taider ? ) than no manager wants to play.
Well done Les[/p][/quote]he actually said no one will be sold unless it was in the best interests of saints..which it was..massive profits and replaced with quality and with money in the bank well done to les ralph and ronmiltonnroad76

reedhunter1 wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR

Les has NOT done a great job. He is a bare faced lair and an incompetent. People are so easily bought. The way I see it Koeman has well and truly got us out of a hole. How quickly do people forget that he when on camera and told fans that they we would not be selling anyone only to sell Rickie Lambert the very next day. Cortese gets the blame for Gaston Ramirez and Osvaldo bit what was Les's role then. Basically he buts players (Taider ? ) than no manager wants to play.

Well done Les

Go stand in the corner and repeat 1000 times, 'I must remember to take my eye test'.

[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]reedhunter1[/bold] wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR[/p][/quote]Les has NOT done a great job. He is a bare faced lair and an incompetent. People are so easily bought. The way I see it Koeman has well and truly got us out of a hole. How quickly do people forget that he when on camera and told fans that they we would not be selling anyone only to sell Rickie Lambert the very next day. Cortese gets the blame for Gaston Ramirez and Osvaldo bit what was Les's role then. Basically he buts players (Taider ? ) than no manager wants to play.
Well done Les[/p][/quote]Go stand in the corner and repeat 1000 times, 'I must remember to take my eye test'.Shareholder

Blackwaterblue wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.

Wow, I never thought I'd see the day - a skate with an understanding of grammar!

Take a photo everyone

Take a photo of what???

[quote][p][bold]EricMartin'sHat[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.[/p][/quote]Wow, I never thought I'd see the day - a skate with an understanding of grammar!
Take a photo everyone[/p][/quote]Take a photo of what???PompeySaves

I think many of the players attitude towards the end of last season was that they had come as far as they could at Southampton and that for all our quality we would never be 'better', in short not understanding that 'they' would never be better after all AL and it has to be said J Rod too missed hatfulls of chances..

..in all of this it never occurred that maybe they were responsible for not capitalizing…MoPo bigged up certain players thus they sung to his hymn sheet not ours, when he went so did they.

The eye opener is the 60 million spent on players of which the only serious profit was Lovren whereas Osvaldo, Forren, Gaston were responsible for serious losses in the transfer market….this summers business appears to have straightened all that out so now it is just down to the players RoKo bought to repay his faith in them.

I think many of the players attitude towards the end of last season was that they had come as far as they could at Southampton and that for all our quality we would never be 'better', in short not understanding that 'they' would never be better after all AL and it has to be said J Rod too missed hatfulls of chances..
..in all of this it never occurred that maybe they were responsible for not capitalizing…MoPo bigged up certain players thus they sung to his hymn sheet not ours, when he went so did they.
The eye opener is the 60 million spent on players of which the only serious profit was Lovren whereas Osvaldo, Forren, Gaston were responsible for serious losses in the transfer market….this summers business appears to have straightened all that out so now it is just down to the players RoKo bought to repay his faith in them.warrens 76

reedhunter1 wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR

Les has NOT done a great job. He is a bare faced lair and an incompetent. People are so easily bought. The way I see it Koeman has well and truly got us out of a hole. How quickly do people forget that he when on camera and told fans that they we would not be selling anyone only to sell Rickie Lambert the very next day. Cortese gets the blame for Gaston Ramirez and Osvaldo bit what was Les's role then. Basically he buts players (Taider ? ) than no manager wants to play.

Well done Les

he actually said no one will be sold unless it was in the best interests of saints..which it was..massive profits and replaced with quality and with money in the bank well done to les ralph and ron

Yes he did say that, only the exodus did to be fair look extremely bad at the time ... it cannot be argued that early inaction and so, so many fans favourites going made his words appear false.

[quote][p][bold]miltonnroad76[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]reedhunter1[/bold] wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR[/p][/quote]Les has NOT done a great job. He is a bare faced lair and an incompetent. People are so easily bought. The way I see it Koeman has well and truly got us out of a hole. How quickly do people forget that he when on camera and told fans that they we would not be selling anyone only to sell Rickie Lambert the very next day. Cortese gets the blame for Gaston Ramirez and Osvaldo bit what was Les's role then. Basically he buts players (Taider ? ) than no manager wants to play.
Well done Les[/p][/quote]he actually said no one will be sold unless it was in the best interests of saints..which it was..massive profits and replaced with quality and with money in the bank well done to les ralph and ron[/p][/quote]Yes he did say that, only the exodus did to be fair look extremely bad at the time ... it cannot be argued that early inaction and so, so many fans favourites going made his words appear false.warrens 76

Blackwaterblue wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.

Wow, I never thought I'd see the day - a skate with an understanding of grammar!

Take a photo everyone

Take a photo of what???

Not what, but ****?

[quote][p][bold]PompeySaves[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]EricMartin'sHat[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.[/p][/quote]Wow, I never thought I'd see the day - a skate with an understanding of grammar!
Take a photo everyone[/p][/quote]Take a photo of what???[/p][/quote]Not what, but ****?DisplacedFan

Blackwaterblue wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.

Wow, I never thought I'd see the day - a skate with an understanding of grammar!

Take a photo everyone

Take a photo of what???

Not what, but ****?

It rhymes with what and uses an extra t and drop the h.
PUP ha! ha!

[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PompeySaves[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]EricMartin'sHat[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.[/p][/quote]Wow, I never thought I'd see the day - a skate with an understanding of grammar!
Take a photo everyone[/p][/quote]Take a photo of what???[/p][/quote]Not what, but ****?[/p][/quote]It rhymes with what and uses an extra t and drop the h.
PUP ha! ha!DisplacedFan

Blackwaterblue wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.

Wow, I never thought I'd see the day - a skate with an understanding of grammar!

Take a photo everyone

Should have been a question mark at the end though, shouldn't it? see what I did there lol

[quote][p][bold]EricMartin'sHat[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.[/p][/quote]Wow, I never thought I'd see the day - a skate with an understanding of grammar!
Take a photo everyone[/p][/quote]Should have been a question mark at the end though, shouldn't it? see what I did there lolal2u50

sotonbigboy88 wrote:
Not quite the asset stripping many had thought was taking place by KL over the summer. The club has considerably strengthened and added depth to last year's squad. And in the process have not only proved that no player is bigger than the club, but have shown others that you can sell your so called star players, replace those with better quality, whilst turning a large profit. When the season finishes and we have earned our place amongst Europe's elite there will be no issues with financial fair play. Things are certainly on the up again. coyr

Excuse me?? Can you count?? half of the outlay was covered by tv money after wages are accounted for. In any event it is unlikely that Saints will have paid cash for any of their purchases. In short KL probably banked 60 million of not more.
And thats is without taking into account the immense risk taken of selling our best and most promising players, much to the fury of most Saints fans. What is there to say that we wont face the same scenario next summer??
Dont be naive.

[quote][p][bold]sotonbigboy88[/bold] wrote:
Not quite the asset stripping many had thought was taking place by KL over the summer. The club has considerably strengthened and added depth to last year's squad. And in the process have not only proved that no player is bigger than the club, but have shown others that you can sell your so called star players, replace those with better quality, whilst turning a large profit. When the season finishes and we have earned our place amongst Europe's elite there will be no issues with financial fair play. Things are certainly on the up again. coyr[/p][/quote]Excuse me?? Can you count?? half of the outlay was covered by tv money after wages are accounted for. In any event it is unlikely that Saints will have paid cash for any of their purchases. In short KL probably banked 60 million of not more.
And thats is without taking into account the immense risk taken of selling our best and most promising players, much to the fury of most Saints fans. What is there to say that we wont face the same scenario next summer??
Dont be naive.montecristosaint

jerseysaint wrote:
I think a lot of people have some apologies to make to Ralph,
Les and Katrina their master stroke has been Koeman and his respect within the game that big player want to work with him and his knowledge of good players that aren't mega bucks.
Tadic at his price is the bargain of the transfer window.

you are joking mate. Les Reed lied and lied again telling us players were not for sale. And then before you know it hes sold Shaw and to cap it sells Chambers as well. Both future England Internationals, both Southampton made. Thats really clever isnt it.
He isnt half going to look stupid when both are valued at 40 million plus in a couple of years time. He did not have to sell more than a couple of players to bring in what was needed to improve the team , and we had tv money to fund purchases anyway.
I will never forgive Reed and Krueger.Face facts, KL wanted to recover what she had stumped in the two previous years for players, which is why Cortese and Poch left. Or are you completely thick?????

[quote][p][bold]jerseysaint[/bold] wrote:
I think a lot of people have some apologies to make to Ralph,
Les and Katrina their master stroke has been Koeman and his respect within the game that big player want to work with him and his knowledge of good players that aren't mega bucks.
Tadic at his price is the bargain of the transfer window.[/p][/quote]you are joking mate. Les Reed lied and lied again telling us players were not for sale. And then before you know it hes sold Shaw and to cap it sells Chambers as well. Both future England Internationals, both Southampton made. Thats really clever isnt it.
He isnt half going to look stupid when both are valued at 40 million plus in a couple of years time. He did not have to sell more than a couple of players to bring in what was needed to improve the team , and we had tv money to fund purchases anyway.
I will never forgive Reed and Krueger.Face facts, KL wanted to recover what she had stumped in the two previous years for players, which is why Cortese and Poch left. Or are you completely thick?????montecristosaint

sotonbigboy88 wrote:
Not quite the asset stripping many had thought was taking place by KL over the summer. The club has considerably strengthened and added depth to last year's squad. And in the process have not only proved that no player is bigger than the club, but have shown others that you can sell your so called star players, replace those with better quality, whilst turning a large profit. When the season finishes and we have earned our place amongst Europe's elite there will be no issues with financial fair play. Things are certainly on the up again. coyr

Excuse me?? Can you count?? half of the outlay was covered by tv money after wages are accounted for. In any event it is unlikely that Saints will have paid cash for any of their purchases. In short KL probably banked 60 million of not more.
And thats is without taking into account the immense risk taken of selling our best and most promising players, much to the fury of most Saints fans. What is there to say that we wont face the same scenario next summer??
Dont be naive.

"Most Saints fans"? I don't think so.

[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]sotonbigboy88[/bold] wrote:
Not quite the asset stripping many had thought was taking place by KL over the summer. The club has considerably strengthened and added depth to last year's squad. And in the process have not only proved that no player is bigger than the club, but have shown others that you can sell your so called star players, replace those with better quality, whilst turning a large profit. When the season finishes and we have earned our place amongst Europe's elite there will be no issues with financial fair play. Things are certainly on the up again. coyr[/p][/quote]Excuse me?? Can you count?? half of the outlay was covered by tv money after wages are accounted for. In any event it is unlikely that Saints will have paid cash for any of their purchases. In short KL probably banked 60 million of not more.
And thats is without taking into account the immense risk taken of selling our best and most promising players, much to the fury of most Saints fans. What is there to say that we wont face the same scenario next summer??
Dont be naive.[/p][/quote]"Most Saints fans"? I don't think so.Chipmonk1

Blackwaterblue wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.

Tosser, idiots like you shouldn't be allowed to discuss football as you quite clearly know Sweet FA about it all......you filthy dirty inbred skate

[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.[/p][/quote]Tosser, idiots like you shouldn't be allowed to discuss football as you quite clearly know Sweet FA about it all......you filthy dirty inbred skateRED & WHITE..RED & WHITE

Blackwaterblue wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.

Wow, I never thought I'd see the day - a skate with an understanding of grammar!

Take a photo everyone

Take a photo of what???

what a sh t name

[quote][p][bold]PompeySaves[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]EricMartin'sHat[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.[/p][/quote]Wow, I never thought I'd see the day - a skate with an understanding of grammar!
Take a photo everyone[/p][/quote]Take a photo of what???[/p][/quote]what a sh t nameRED & WHITE..RED & WHITE

sotonbigboy88 wrote:
Not quite the asset stripping many had thought was taking place by KL over the summer. The club has considerably strengthened and added depth to last year's squad. And in the process have not only proved that no player is bigger than the club, but have shown others that you can sell your so called star players, replace those with better quality, whilst turning a large profit. When the season finishes and we have earned our place amongst Europe's elite there will be no issues with financial fair play. Things are certainly on the up again. coyr

Excuse me?? Can you count?? half of the outlay was covered by tv money after wages are accounted for. In any event it is unlikely that Saints will have paid cash for any of their purchases. In short KL probably banked 60 million of not more.
And thats is without taking into account the immense risk taken of selling our best and most promising players, much to the fury of most Saints fans. What is there to say that we wont face the same scenario next summer??
Dont be naive.

[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]sotonbigboy88[/bold] wrote:
Not quite the asset stripping many had thought was taking place by KL over the summer. The club has considerably strengthened and added depth to last year's squad. And in the process have not only proved that no player is bigger than the club, but have shown others that you can sell your so called star players, replace those with better quality, whilst turning a large profit. When the season finishes and we have earned our place amongst Europe's elite there will be no issues with financial fair play. Things are certainly on the up again. coyr[/p][/quote]Excuse me?? Can you count?? half of the outlay was covered by tv money after wages are accounted for. In any event it is unlikely that Saints will have paid cash for any of their purchases. In short KL probably banked 60 million of not more.
And thats is without taking into account the immense risk taken of selling our best and most promising players, much to the fury of most Saints fans. What is there to say that we wont face the same scenario next summer??
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jerseysaint wrote:
I think a lot of people have some apologies to make to Ralph,
Les and Katrina their master stroke has been Koeman and his respect within the game that big player want to work with him and his knowledge of good players that aren't mega bucks.
Tadic at his price is the bargain of the transfer window.

you are joking mate. Les Reed lied and lied again telling us players were not for sale. And then before you know it hes sold Shaw and to cap it sells Chambers as well. Both future England Internationals, both Southampton made. Thats really clever isnt it.
He isnt half going to look stupid when both are valued at 40 million plus in a couple of years time. He did not have to sell more than a couple of players to bring in what was needed to improve the team , and we had tv money to fund purchases anyway.
I will never forgive Reed and Krueger.Face facts, KL wanted to recover what she had stumped in the two previous years for players, which is why Cortese and Poch left. Or are you completely thick?????

[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]jerseysaint[/bold] wrote:
I think a lot of people have some apologies to make to Ralph,
Les and Katrina their master stroke has been Koeman and his respect within the game that big player want to work with him and his knowledge of good players that aren't mega bucks.
Tadic at his price is the bargain of the transfer window.[/p][/quote]you are joking mate. Les Reed lied and lied again telling us players were not for sale. And then before you know it hes sold Shaw and to cap it sells Chambers as well. Both future England Internationals, both Southampton made. Thats really clever isnt it.
He isnt half going to look stupid when both are valued at 40 million plus in a couple of years time. He did not have to sell more than a couple of players to bring in what was needed to improve the team , and we had tv money to fund purchases anyway.
I will never forgive Reed and Krueger.Face facts, KL wanted to recover what she had stumped in the two previous years for players, which is why Cortese and Poch left. Or are you completely thick?????[/p][/quote]Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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HighcliffeSaint44 wrote:
As Elvis would have said:- &quot;TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS!"
Don't wish to be at all negative, but any 'profit' still has to cover the burgeoning expenses at Staplewood and the fact that our larger squad will presumably be paid pretty well! (and has SMS been fully paid for?)
All the doomsters and cynics in the mainstream media have been proved wrong, especially Messrs Harman and a Samuel in that rag the Mail..
Can't wait for the game against the Magpies. Let's fill the stadium and get behind he lads. COYR! The Stripes are Back!

When Markus took over the club they negotiated a ridiculous settlement figure with whoever held the mortgage, I think it was Barclays and Norwich Union. So there is no debt on St.Marys. There will be debt on Staplewood but that does not have an impact on the Financial fair Play rules as it is for infrastructure and not out lay on players and wages. Also I am sure any debt on Staplewood will be structured to be paid over a number of years.

[quote][p][bold]HighcliffeSaint44[/bold] wrote:
As Elvis would have said:- "TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS!"
Don't wish to be at all negative, but any 'profit' still has to cover the burgeoning expenses at Staplewood and the fact that our larger squad will presumably be paid pretty well! (and has SMS been fully paid for?)
All the doomsters and cynics in the mainstream media have been proved wrong, especially Messrs Harman and a Samuel in that rag the Mail..
Can't wait for the game against the Magpies. Let's fill the stadium and get behind he lads. COYR! The Stripes are Back![/p][/quote]When Markus took over the club they negotiated a ridiculous settlement figure with whoever held the mortgage, I think it was Barclays and Norwich Union. So there is no debt on St.Marys. There will be debt on Staplewood but that does not have an impact on the Financial fair Play rules as it is for infrastructure and not out lay on players and wages. Also I am sure any debt on Staplewood will be structured to be paid over a number of years.Redrobbo

reedhunter1 wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR

BRILLIANT BRILLIANT BRILLIANT!!! I'm so pleased I was wrong! We look better than last year so bring em on! Just a thought though... Excellent business to end up with a 30 mill. profit on transfers but there's 60-80 million TV and place money in someone's arse pocket. The proof about the board's ambition will come if for instance we're close to the so-called big boys come January or even end of the season. Will they 'GO FOR IT' ! or let us be 'cherry picked' again. Time will tell.
For now, can't wait to play that arrogant, offensive, mid-table North London lot. 'COME ON YOU SPURMINATORS' !!!

[quote][p][bold]reedhunter1[/bold] wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR[/p][/quote]BRILLIANT BRILLIANT BRILLIANT!!! I'm so pleased I was wrong! We look better than last year so bring em on! Just a thought though... Excellent business to end up with a 30 mill. profit on transfers but there's 60-80 million TV and place money in someone's arse pocket. The proof about the board's ambition will come if for instance we're close to the so-called big boys come January or even end of the season. Will they 'GO FOR IT' ! or let us be 'cherry picked' again. Time will tell.
For now, can't wait to play that arrogant, offensive, mid-table North London lot. 'COME ON YOU SPURMINATORS' !!!Iwozthere

reedhunter1 wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR

BRILLIANT BRILLIANT BRILLIANT!!! I'm so pleased I was wrong! We look better than last year so bring em on! Just a thought though... Excellent business to end up with a 30 mill. profit on transfers but there's 60-80 million TV and place money in someone's arse pocket. The proof about the board's ambition will come if for instance we're close to the so-called big boys come January or even end of the season. Will they 'GO FOR IT' ! or let us be 'cherry picked' again. Time will tell.
For now, can't wait to play that arrogant, offensive, mid-table North London lot. 'COME ON YOU SPURMINATORS' !!!

Arse pocket, do you think they are running a market stall.

Not to go over old ground but wasn't a large amount of unpaid transfer fee left outstanding from NCs days and also god knows whatever else as well?

[quote][p][bold]Iwozthere[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]reedhunter1[/bold] wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR[/p][/quote]BRILLIANT BRILLIANT BRILLIANT!!! I'm so pleased I was wrong! We look better than last year so bring em on! Just a thought though... Excellent business to end up with a 30 mill. profit on transfers but there's 60-80 million TV and place money in someone's arse pocket. The proof about the board's ambition will come if for instance we're close to the so-called big boys come January or even end of the season. Will they 'GO FOR IT' ! or let us be 'cherry picked' again. Time will tell.
For now, can't wait to play that arrogant, offensive, mid-table North London lot. 'COME ON YOU SPURMINATORS' !!![/p][/quote]Arse pocket, do you think they are running a market stall.
Not to go over old ground but wasn't a large amount of unpaid transfer fee left outstanding from NCs days and also god knows whatever else as well?fascia123

Blackwaterblue wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.

Wow, I never thought I'd see the day - a skate with an understanding of grammar!

Take a photo everyone

Two of the capital letters are not required. And where is the question mark at the end? Fail, (both of you!)

[quote][p][bold]EricMartin'sHat[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.[/p][/quote]Wow, I never thought I'd see the day - a skate with an understanding of grammar!
Take a photo everyone[/p][/quote]Two of the capital letters are not required. And where is the question mark at the end? Fail, (both of you!)batesieboy

reedhunter1 wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR

Les has NOT done a great job. He is a bare faced lair and an incompetent. People are so easily bought. The way I see it Koeman has well and truly got us out of a hole. How quickly do people forget that he when on camera and told fans that they we would not be selling anyone only to sell Rickie Lambert the very next day. Cortese gets the blame for Gaston Ramirez and Osvaldo bit what was Les's role then. Basically he buts players (Taider ? ) than no manager wants to play.

Well done Les

What are you talking about. Football Managers , with the possible exception of Arsene Wegner , do not make the decision on who to sign. There are a number of people who have an input into identifying players and putting deals together. Ronald would have had an input and a very big say , but Les and Ralph would equally have an input and would be responsible for actually getting the deals done. Taider obviously came thinking he was guaranteed a starting place, the club sorted that problem out by shipping him out.We have probably paid our get out of jail card for this season.
At no time did the club say no one would be sold, they said that the club did not need to sell anyone. Which is a slightly different message.
Equally Les must shoulder some of the blame for our failures in the market, but so must Nicola, MoPo and the rest of the scouting network.
Overall I believe we are in a stronger position on the field, although I would have liked another goalscorer, but perhaps those in the know are confident that JayRod will be back sooner than originally thought.
Also it is no good people moaning about how much we paid for Shane Long, because equally we mugged Manure and Liverpool.

[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]reedhunter1[/bold] wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR[/p][/quote]Les has NOT done a great job. He is a bare faced lair and an incompetent. People are so easily bought. The way I see it Koeman has well and truly got us out of a hole. How quickly do people forget that he when on camera and told fans that they we would not be selling anyone only to sell Rickie Lambert the very next day. Cortese gets the blame for Gaston Ramirez and Osvaldo bit what was Les's role then. Basically he buts players (Taider ? ) than no manager wants to play.
Well done Les[/p][/quote]What are you talking about. Football Managers , with the possible exception of Arsene Wegner , do not make the decision on who to sign. There are a number of people who have an input into identifying players and putting deals together. Ronald would have had an input and a very big say , but Les and Ralph would equally have an input and would be responsible for actually getting the deals done. Taider obviously came thinking he was guaranteed a starting place, the club sorted that problem out by shipping him out.We have probably paid our get out of jail card for this season.
At no time did the club say no one would be sold, they said that the club did not need to sell anyone. Which is a slightly different message.
Equally Les must shoulder some of the blame for our failures in the market, but so must Nicola, MoPo and the rest of the scouting network.
Overall I believe we are in a stronger position on the field, although I would have liked another goalscorer, but perhaps those in the know are confident that JayRod will be back sooner than originally thought.
Also it is no good people moaning about how much we paid for Shane Long, because equally we mugged Manure and Liverpool.Redrobbo

HighcliffeSaint44 wrote:
As Elvis would have said:- &quot;TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS!"
Don't wish to be at all negative, but any 'profit' still has to cover the burgeoning expenses at Staplewood and the fact that our larger squad will presumably be paid pretty well! (and has SMS been fully paid for?)
All the doomsters and cynics in the mainstream media have been proved wrong, especially Messrs Harman and a Samuel in that rag the Mail..
Can't wait for the game against the Magpies. Let's fill the stadium and get behind he lads. COYR! The Stripes are Back!

When Markus took over the club they negotiated a ridiculous settlement figure with whoever held the mortgage, I think it was Barclays and Norwich Union. So there is no debt on St.Marys. There will be debt on Staplewood but that does not have an impact on the Financial fair Play rules as it is for infrastructure and not out lay on players and wages. Also I am sure any debt on Staplewood will be structured to be paid over a number of years.

What happened to the outstanding debt for SMS then?

Who now owns the considerable asset of SMS?

[quote][p][bold]Redrobbo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]HighcliffeSaint44[/bold] wrote:
As Elvis would have said:- "TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS!"
Don't wish to be at all negative, but any 'profit' still has to cover the burgeoning expenses at Staplewood and the fact that our larger squad will presumably be paid pretty well! (and has SMS been fully paid for?)
All the doomsters and cynics in the mainstream media have been proved wrong, especially Messrs Harman and a Samuel in that rag the Mail..
Can't wait for the game against the Magpies. Let's fill the stadium and get behind he lads. COYR! The Stripes are Back![/p][/quote]When Markus took over the club they negotiated a ridiculous settlement figure with whoever held the mortgage, I think it was Barclays and Norwich Union. So there is no debt on St.Marys. There will be debt on Staplewood but that does not have an impact on the Financial fair Play rules as it is for infrastructure and not out lay on players and wages. Also I am sure any debt on Staplewood will be structured to be paid over a number of years.[/p][/quote]What happened to the outstanding debt for SMS then?
Who now owns the considerable asset of SMS?fascia123

Nice to see that the ones formerly moaning "We've got no players left" have only had to make minor adjustments to their templates to make it read "We've got no money left".

At what point is the desperate desire to be right outweighed by the realisation that one looks a tool?

Nice to see that the ones formerly moaning "We've got no players left" have only had to make minor adjustments to their templates to make it read "We've got no money left".
At what point is the desperate desire to be right outweighed by the realisation that one looks a tool?InsideOutCat

HighcliffeSaint44 wrote:
As Elvis would have said:- &quot;TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS!"
Don't wish to be at all negative, but any 'profit' still has to cover the burgeoning expenses at Staplewood and the fact that our larger squad will presumably be paid pretty well! (and has SMS been fully paid for?)
All the doomsters and cynics in the mainstream media have been proved wrong, especially Messrs Harman and a Samuel in that rag the Mail..
Can't wait for the game against the Magpies. Let's fill the stadium and get behind he lads. COYR! The Stripes are Back!

When Markus took over the club they negotiated a ridiculous settlement figure with whoever held the mortgage, I think it was Barclays and Norwich Union. So there is no debt on St.Marys. There will be debt on Staplewood but that does not have an impact on the Financial fair Play rules as it is for infrastructure and not out lay on players and wages. Also I am sure any debt on Staplewood will be structured to be paid over a number of years.

What happened to the outstanding debt for SMS then?

Who now owns the considerable asset of SMS?

St Markus Not only saved the club, but he also paid the debts in full, as opposed to many new owners who only pay a few pennies in the pound for debts owed, leaving many small business and public authorities out of pocket. like poopey did when they first agreed to pay 20p in the pound and then changed that to 2p in the pound, oh that first 20p deal was over £100mill mostly to the tax man. so a £100mill tax bill got reduced to £20mill and they then paid 2% of that, think of all the nurses and doctors that bill should have paid for!
the club had debts of around £30 million. The majority of this was the £24 million owed to Aviva (formerly Norwich Union) for the construction of St Mary’s with most of the remainder being the Barclays’ overdraft.
Liebherr cleared the debts to the bank, tax authorities and trade creditors as part of the acquisition, replacing them with a £20 million shareholder loan that is not repayable for at least five years.
I believe that loan was later converted into equity so is non-repayable.
so to answer your question, the debt was paid and KL owns SMS as st Markus did previously.

if you want a good read about what happened in the build up to administration, the purchase by st Markus and the after affects then go to this blog,
http://swissramble.b
logspot.co.uk/2012/0
1/southampton-saints
-alive.html

in fairness I did cut and paste from it to make it easier to explain.

[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Redrobbo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]HighcliffeSaint44[/bold] wrote:
As Elvis would have said:- "TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS!"
Don't wish to be at all negative, but any 'profit' still has to cover the burgeoning expenses at Staplewood and the fact that our larger squad will presumably be paid pretty well! (and has SMS been fully paid for?)
All the doomsters and cynics in the mainstream media have been proved wrong, especially Messrs Harman and a Samuel in that rag the Mail..
Can't wait for the game against the Magpies. Let's fill the stadium and get behind he lads. COYR! The Stripes are Back![/p][/quote]When Markus took over the club they negotiated a ridiculous settlement figure with whoever held the mortgage, I think it was Barclays and Norwich Union. So there is no debt on St.Marys. There will be debt on Staplewood but that does not have an impact on the Financial fair Play rules as it is for infrastructure and not out lay on players and wages. Also I am sure any debt on Staplewood will be structured to be paid over a number of years.[/p][/quote]What happened to the outstanding debt for SMS then?
Who now owns the considerable asset of SMS?[/p][/quote]St Markus Not only saved the club, but he also paid the debts in full, as opposed to many new owners who only pay a few pennies in the pound for debts owed, leaving many small business and public authorities out of pocket. like poopey did when they first agreed to pay 20p in the pound and then changed that to 2p in the pound, oh that first 20p deal was over £100mill mostly to the tax man. so a £100mill tax bill got reduced to £20mill and they then paid 2% of that, think of all the nurses and doctors that bill should have paid for!
the club had debts of around £30 million. The majority of this was the £24 million owed to Aviva (formerly Norwich Union) for the construction of St Mary’s with most of the remainder being the Barclays’ overdraft.
Liebherr cleared the debts to the bank, tax authorities and trade creditors as part of the acquisition, replacing them with a £20 million shareholder loan that is not repayable for at least five years.
I believe that loan was later converted into equity so is non-repayable.
so to answer your question, the debt was paid and KL owns SMS as st Markus did previously.
if you want a good read about what happened in the build up to administration, the purchase by st Markus and the after affects then go to this blog,
http://swissramble.b
logspot.co.uk/2012/0
1/southampton-saints
-alive.html
in fairness I did cut and paste from it to make it easier to explain.de Heiligen paard 101

jerseysaint wrote:
I think a lot of people have some apologies to make to Ralph,
Les and Katrina their master stroke has been Koeman and his respect within the game that big player want to work with him and his knowledge of good players that aren't mega bucks.
Tadic at his price is the bargain of the transfer window.

I'll say!
It is good to see that a number of the Cassandra's have at least had the nobility to come on here and confess they read the situation wrongly.

[quote][p][bold]jerseysaint[/bold] wrote:
I think a lot of people have some apologies to make to Ralph,
Les and Katrina their master stroke has been Koeman and his respect within the game that big player want to work with him and his knowledge of good players that aren't mega bucks.
Tadic at his price is the bargain of the transfer window.[/p][/quote]I'll say!
It is good to see that a number of the Cassandra's have at least had the nobility to come on here and confess they read the situation wrongly.Dave Juson

HighcliffeSaint44 wrote:
As Elvis would have said:- &quot;TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS!"
Don't wish to be at all negative, but any 'profit' still has to cover the burgeoning expenses at Staplewood and the fact that our larger squad will presumably be paid pretty well! (and has SMS been fully paid for?)
All the doomsters and cynics in the mainstream media have been proved wrong, especially Messrs Harman and a Samuel in that rag the Mail..
Can't wait for the game against the Magpies. Let's fill the stadium and get behind he lads. COYR! The Stripes are Back!

When Markus took over the club they negotiated a ridiculous settlement figure with whoever held the mortgage, I think it was Barclays and Norwich Union. So there is no debt on St.Marys. There will be debt on Staplewood but that does not have an impact on the Financial fair Play rules as it is for infrastructure and not out lay on players and wages. Also I am sure any debt on Staplewood will be structured to be paid over a number of years.

What happened to the outstanding debt for SMS then?

Who now owns the considerable asset of SMS?

St Markus Not only saved the club, but he also paid the debts in full, as opposed to many new owners who only pay a few pennies in the pound for debts owed, leaving many small business and public authorities out of pocket. like poopey did when they first agreed to pay 20p in the pound and then changed that to 2p in the pound, oh that first 20p deal was over £100mill mostly to the tax man. so a £100mill tax bill got reduced to £20mill and they then paid 2% of that, think of all the nurses and doctors that bill should have paid for!
the club had debts of around £30 million. The majority of this was the £24 million owed to Aviva (formerly Norwich Union) for the construction of St Mary’s with most of the remainder being the Barclays’ overdraft.
Liebherr cleared the debts to the bank, tax authorities and trade creditors as part of the acquisition, replacing them with a £20 million shareholder loan that is not repayable for at least five years.
I believe that loan was later converted into equity so is non-repayable.
so to answer your question, the debt was paid and KL owns SMS as st Markus did previously.

if you want a good read about what happened in the build up to administration, the purchase by st Markus and the after affects then go to this blog,
http://swissramble.b

logspot.co.uk/2012/0

1/southampton-saints

-alive.html

in fairness I did cut and paste from it to make it easier to explain.

Thanks mate that's superb detail, something I have never looked into really but good to have the info for future arguments, ha ha.

So they didn't negotiate some rediculous settlement fee then he did the honourable thing?

[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Redrobbo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]HighcliffeSaint44[/bold] wrote:
As Elvis would have said:- "TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS!"
Don't wish to be at all negative, but any 'profit' still has to cover the burgeoning expenses at Staplewood and the fact that our larger squad will presumably be paid pretty well! (and has SMS been fully paid for?)
All the doomsters and cynics in the mainstream media have been proved wrong, especially Messrs Harman and a Samuel in that rag the Mail..
Can't wait for the game against the Magpies. Let's fill the stadium and get behind he lads. COYR! The Stripes are Back![/p][/quote]When Markus took over the club they negotiated a ridiculous settlement figure with whoever held the mortgage, I think it was Barclays and Norwich Union. So there is no debt on St.Marys. There will be debt on Staplewood but that does not have an impact on the Financial fair Play rules as it is for infrastructure and not out lay on players and wages. Also I am sure any debt on Staplewood will be structured to be paid over a number of years.[/p][/quote]What happened to the outstanding debt for SMS then?
Who now owns the considerable asset of SMS?[/p][/quote]St Markus Not only saved the club, but he also paid the debts in full, as opposed to many new owners who only pay a few pennies in the pound for debts owed, leaving many small business and public authorities out of pocket. like poopey did when they first agreed to pay 20p in the pound and then changed that to 2p in the pound, oh that first 20p deal was over £100mill mostly to the tax man. so a £100mill tax bill got reduced to £20mill and they then paid 2% of that, think of all the nurses and doctors that bill should have paid for!
the club had debts of around £30 million. The majority of this was the £24 million owed to Aviva (formerly Norwich Union) for the construction of St Mary’s with most of the remainder being the Barclays’ overdraft.
Liebherr cleared the debts to the bank, tax authorities and trade creditors as part of the acquisition, replacing them with a £20 million shareholder loan that is not repayable for at least five years.
I believe that loan was later converted into equity so is non-repayable.
so to answer your question, the debt was paid and KL owns SMS as st Markus did previously.
if you want a good read about what happened in the build up to administration, the purchase by st Markus and the after affects then go to this blog,
http://swissramble.b
logspot.co.uk/2012/0
1/southampton-saints
-alive.html
in fairness I did cut and paste from it to make it easier to explain.[/p][/quote]Thanks mate that's superb detail, something I have never looked into really but good to have the info for future arguments, ha ha.
So they didn't negotiate some rediculous settlement fee then he did the honourable thing?fascia123

sotonbigboy88 wrote:
Not quite the asset stripping many had thought was taking place by KL over the summer. The club has considerably strengthened and added depth to last year's squad. And in the process have not only proved that no player is bigger than the club, but have shown others that you can sell your so called star players, replace those with better quality, whilst turning a large profit. When the season finishes and we have earned our place amongst Europe's elite there will be no issues with financial fair play. Things are certainly on the up again. coyr

Excuse me?? Can you count?? half of the outlay was covered by tv money after wages are accounted for. In any event it is unlikely that Saints will have paid cash for any of their purchases. In short KL probably banked 60 million of not more.
And thats is without taking into account the immense risk taken of selling our best and most promising players, much to the fury of most Saints fans. What is there to say that we wont face the same scenario next summer??
Dont be naive.

monteC, why don't you try to think of something negative to say about Ronald Koeman and last weekend's win over West Ham?

[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]sotonbigboy88[/bold] wrote:
Not quite the asset stripping many had thought was taking place by KL over the summer. The club has considerably strengthened and added depth to last year's squad. And in the process have not only proved that no player is bigger than the club, but have shown others that you can sell your so called star players, replace those with better quality, whilst turning a large profit. When the season finishes and we have earned our place amongst Europe's elite there will be no issues with financial fair play. Things are certainly on the up again. coyr[/p][/quote]Excuse me?? Can you count?? half of the outlay was covered by tv money after wages are accounted for. In any event it is unlikely that Saints will have paid cash for any of their purchases. In short KL probably banked 60 million of not more.
And thats is without taking into account the immense risk taken of selling our best and most promising players, much to the fury of most Saints fans. What is there to say that we wont face the same scenario next summer??
Dont be naive.[/p][/quote]monteC, why don't you try to think of something negative to say about Ronald Koeman and last weekend's win over West Ham?Churchill Saint

sotonbigboy88 wrote:
Not quite the asset stripping many had thought was taking place by KL over the summer. The club has considerably strengthened and added depth to last year's squad. And in the process have not only proved that no player is bigger than the club, but have shown others that you can sell your so called star players, replace those with better quality, whilst turning a large profit. When the season finishes and we have earned our place amongst Europe's elite there will be no issues with financial fair play. Things are certainly on the up again. coyr

Excuse me?? Can you count?? half of the outlay was covered by tv money after wages are accounted for. In any event it is unlikely that Saints will have paid cash for any of their purchases. In short KL probably banked 60 million of not more.
And thats is without taking into account the immense risk taken of selling our best and most promising players, much to the fury of most Saints fans. What is there to say that we wont face the same scenario next summer??
Dont be naive.

monteC, why don't you try to think of something negative to say about Ronald Koeman and last weekend's win over West Ham?

But he does have a point.

[quote][p][bold]Churchill Saint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]sotonbigboy88[/bold] wrote:
Not quite the asset stripping many had thought was taking place by KL over the summer. The club has considerably strengthened and added depth to last year's squad. And in the process have not only proved that no player is bigger than the club, but have shown others that you can sell your so called star players, replace those with better quality, whilst turning a large profit. When the season finishes and we have earned our place amongst Europe's elite there will be no issues with financial fair play. Things are certainly on the up again. coyr[/p][/quote]Excuse me?? Can you count?? half of the outlay was covered by tv money after wages are accounted for. In any event it is unlikely that Saints will have paid cash for any of their purchases. In short KL probably banked 60 million of not more.
And thats is without taking into account the immense risk taken of selling our best and most promising players, much to the fury of most Saints fans. What is there to say that we wont face the same scenario next summer??
Dont be naive.[/p][/quote]monteC, why don't you try to think of something negative to say about Ronald Koeman and last weekend's win over West Ham?[/p][/quote]But he does have a point.DisplacedFan

Just as it looked like the club would have to fold, the cavalry arrived in the shape of Markus Liebherr, whose DMWSL 613 Limited acquired the share capital of the football club (and other group companies) from the administrators of Southampton Leisure Holdings Plc on 8 July 2009. Not only did the new owner save the club, but he also paid the debts in full, as opposed to many new owners who only pay a few pennies in the pound for debts owed, leaving many small business and public authorities out of pocket.

Liebherr’s initial statement was equally encouraging, “I believe we have a superb opportunity to rebuild this great club. This will require resources, planning, hard work and patience. We should not expect instant success, but our fans, employees and stakeholders can expect 100% commitment from me and my team.”

Showed he was indeed a true Saint...;)

Like this bit:
Just as it looked like the club would have to fold, the cavalry arrived in the shape of Markus Liebherr, whose DMWSL 613 Limited acquired the share capital of the football club (and other group companies) from the administrators of Southampton Leisure Holdings Plc on 8 July 2009. Not only did the new owner save the club, but he also paid the debts in full, as opposed to many new owners who only pay a few pennies in the pound for debts owed, leaving many small business and public authorities out of pocket.
Liebherr’s initial statement was equally encouraging, “I believe we have a superb opportunity to rebuild this great club. This will require resources, planning, hard work and patience. We should not expect instant success, but our fans, employees and stakeholders can expect 100% commitment from me and my team.”
Showed he was indeed a true Saint...;)rednwhite72

Just as it looked like the club would have to fold, the cavalry arrived in the shape of Markus Liebherr, whose DMWSL 613 Limited acquired the share capital of the football club (and other group companies) from the administrators of Southampton Leisure Holdings Plc on 8 July 2009. Not only did the new owner save the club, but he also paid the debts in full, as opposed to many new owners who only pay a few pennies in the pound for debts owed, leaving many small business and public authorities out of pocket.

Liebherr’s initial statement was equally encouraging, “I believe we have a superb opportunity to rebuild this great club. This will require resources, planning, hard work and patience. We should not expect instant success, but our fans, employees and stakeholders can expect 100% commitment from me and my team.”

Showed he was indeed a true Saint...;)

An honourable gentleman without a doubt and a true saint as well.

Which makes it even more ridiculous that his daughter has come under question by some on here, madness.

[quote][p][bold]rednwhite72[/bold] wrote:
Like this bit:
Just as it looked like the club would have to fold, the cavalry arrived in the shape of Markus Liebherr, whose DMWSL 613 Limited acquired the share capital of the football club (and other group companies) from the administrators of Southampton Leisure Holdings Plc on 8 July 2009. Not only did the new owner save the club, but he also paid the debts in full, as opposed to many new owners who only pay a few pennies in the pound for debts owed, leaving many small business and public authorities out of pocket.
Liebherr’s initial statement was equally encouraging, “I believe we have a superb opportunity to rebuild this great club. This will require resources, planning, hard work and patience. We should not expect instant success, but our fans, employees and stakeholders can expect 100% commitment from me and my team.”
Showed he was indeed a true Saint...;)[/p][/quote]An honourable gentleman without a doubt and a true saint as well.
Which makes it even more ridiculous that his daughter has come under question by some on here, madness.fascia123

sotonbigboy88 wrote:
Not quite the asset stripping many had thought was taking place by KL over the summer. The club has considerably strengthened and added depth to last year's squad. And in the process have not only proved that no player is bigger than the club, but have shown others that you can sell your so called star players, replace those with better quality, whilst turning a large profit. When the season finishes and we have earned our place amongst Europe's elite there will be no issues with financial fair play. Things are certainly on the up again. coyr

Excuse me?? Can you count?? half of the outlay was covered by tv money after wages are accounted for. In any event it is unlikely that Saints will have paid cash for any of their purchases. In short KL probably banked 60 million of not more.
And thats is without taking into account the immense risk taken of selling our best and most promising players, much to the fury of most Saints fans. What is there to say that we wont face the same scenario next summer??
Dont be naive.

monteC, why don't you try to think of something negative to say about Ronald Koeman and last weekend's win over West Ham?

But he does have a point.

His point has been psised on a hundred times on here.

[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Churchill Saint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]sotonbigboy88[/bold] wrote:
Not quite the asset stripping many had thought was taking place by KL over the summer. The club has considerably strengthened and added depth to last year's squad. And in the process have not only proved that no player is bigger than the club, but have shown others that you can sell your so called star players, replace those with better quality, whilst turning a large profit. When the season finishes and we have earned our place amongst Europe's elite there will be no issues with financial fair play. Things are certainly on the up again. coyr[/p][/quote]Excuse me?? Can you count?? half of the outlay was covered by tv money after wages are accounted for. In any event it is unlikely that Saints will have paid cash for any of their purchases. In short KL probably banked 60 million of not more.
And thats is without taking into account the immense risk taken of selling our best and most promising players, much to the fury of most Saints fans. What is there to say that we wont face the same scenario next summer??
Dont be naive.[/p][/quote]monteC, why don't you try to think of something negative to say about Ronald Koeman and last weekend's win over West Ham?[/p][/quote]But he does have a point.[/p][/quote]His point has been psised on a hundred times on here.fascia123

sotonbigboy88 wrote:
Not quite the asset stripping many had thought was taking place by KL over the summer. The club has considerably strengthened and added depth to last year's squad. And in the process have not only proved that no player is bigger than the club, but have shown others that you can sell your so called star players, replace those with better quality, whilst turning a large profit. When the season finishes and we have earned our place amongst Europe's elite there will be no issues with financial fair play. Things are certainly on the up again. coyr

Excuse me?? Can you count?? half of the outlay was covered by tv money after wages are accounted for. In any event it is unlikely that Saints will have paid cash for any of their purchases. In short KL probably banked 60 million of not more.
And thats is without taking into account the immense risk taken of selling our best and most promising players, much to the fury of most Saints fans. What is there to say that we wont face the same scenario next summer??
Dont be naive.

I enjoy seeing a different point of view whether it is right or wrong, because it's refreshing and makes you think. I am not enlightened or privy to the financial details of the dealings of the club. While I am in no doubt that they are 99% of the driving force behind everything that happens, I believe that with regards to the 'Exodus' The players involved had external pressures of their own to leave, being that there were so many English players under selection within Southampton. Is it just coincidence that bar Lovren, and Chambers, all of them were in the national team? I have a strong suspicion that the English players wanted to further cement their future in the international squad by transferring to teams that already had entry to the Champions League, Thus securing their own pay increases and stature as players.

[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]sotonbigboy88[/bold] wrote:
Not quite the asset stripping many had thought was taking place by KL over the summer. The club has considerably strengthened and added depth to last year's squad. And in the process have not only proved that no player is bigger than the club, but have shown others that you can sell your so called star players, replace those with better quality, whilst turning a large profit. When the season finishes and we have earned our place amongst Europe's elite there will be no issues with financial fair play. Things are certainly on the up again. coyr[/p][/quote]Excuse me?? Can you count?? half of the outlay was covered by tv money after wages are accounted for. In any event it is unlikely that Saints will have paid cash for any of their purchases. In short KL probably banked 60 million of not more.
And thats is without taking into account the immense risk taken of selling our best and most promising players, much to the fury of most Saints fans. What is there to say that we wont face the same scenario next summer??
Dont be naive.[/p][/quote]I enjoy seeing a different point of view whether it is right or wrong, because it's refreshing and makes you think. I am not enlightened or privy to the financial details of the dealings of the club. While I am in no doubt that they are 99% of the driving force behind everything that happens, I believe that with regards to the 'Exodus' The players involved had external pressures of their own to leave, being that there were so many English players under selection within Southampton. Is it just coincidence that bar Lovren, and Chambers, all of them were in the national team? I have a strong suspicion that the English players wanted to further cement their future in the international squad by transferring to teams that already had entry to the Champions League, Thus securing their own pay increases and stature as players.KiwiSaint74

sotonbigboy88 wrote:
Not quite the asset stripping many had thought was taking place by KL over the summer. The club has considerably strengthened and added depth to last year's squad. And in the process have not only proved that no player is bigger than the club, but have shown others that you can sell your so called star players, replace those with better quality, whilst turning a large profit. When the season finishes and we have earned our place amongst Europe's elite there will be no issues with financial fair play. Things are certainly on the up again. coyr

Excuse me?? Can you count?? half of the outlay was covered by tv money after wages are accounted for. In any event it is unlikely that Saints will have paid cash for any of their purchases. In short KL probably banked 60 million of not more.
And thats is without taking into account the immense risk taken of selling our best and most promising players, much to the fury of most Saints fans. What is there to say that we wont face the same scenario next summer??
Dont be naive.

monteC, why don't you try to think of something negative to say about Ronald Koeman and last weekend's win over West Ham?

But he does have a point.

His point has been psised on a hundred times on here.

And your point is more valid than his?

[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Churchill Saint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]sotonbigboy88[/bold] wrote:
Not quite the asset stripping many had thought was taking place by KL over the summer. The club has considerably strengthened and added depth to last year's squad. And in the process have not only proved that no player is bigger than the club, but have shown others that you can sell your so called star players, replace those with better quality, whilst turning a large profit. When the season finishes and we have earned our place amongst Europe's elite there will be no issues with financial fair play. Things are certainly on the up again. coyr[/p][/quote]Excuse me?? Can you count?? half of the outlay was covered by tv money after wages are accounted for. In any event it is unlikely that Saints will have paid cash for any of their purchases. In short KL probably banked 60 million of not more.
And thats is without taking into account the immense risk taken of selling our best and most promising players, much to the fury of most Saints fans. What is there to say that we wont face the same scenario next summer??
Dont be naive.[/p][/quote]monteC, why don't you try to think of something negative to say about Ronald Koeman and last weekend's win over West Ham?[/p][/quote]But he does have a point.[/p][/quote]His point has been psised on a hundred times on here.[/p][/quote]And your point is more valid than his?DisplacedFan

sotonbigboy88 wrote:
Not quite the asset stripping many had thought was taking place by KL over the summer. The club has considerably strengthened and added depth to last year's squad. And in the process have not only proved that no player is bigger than the club, but have shown others that you can sell your so called star players, replace those with better quality, whilst turning a large profit. When the season finishes and we have earned our place amongst Europe's elite there will be no issues with financial fair play. Things are certainly on the up again. coyr

Excuse me?? Can you count?? half of the outlay was covered by tv money after wages are accounted for. In any event it is unlikely that Saints will have paid cash for any of their purchases. In short KL probably banked 60 million of not more.
And thats is without taking into account the immense risk taken of selling our best and most promising players, much to the fury of most Saints fans. What is there to say that we wont face the same scenario next summer??
Dont be naive.

monteC, why don't you try to think of something negative to say about Ronald Koeman and last weekend's win over West Ham?

But he does have a point.

His point has been psised on a hundred times on here.

And your point is more valid than his?

What is being said has been said and counter argued all through this summer, the template is a little different, however, the inference is that the club have sold for top dollar, taken a fortune in telly money , bought cheap and KL has pocketed the difference, this poster has gone one further granted and suggested it will be a recurring theme.

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Very insulting indeed given what KLs father did for this club.

I wasn't saying my point was better than his I was suggesting in my comment that his had been somewhat pulled apart as the window had come to an end and perhaps my inference was to shut the fu@k up about it before the young lady thinks I have billions of pounds do I need to be accused of squirrelling a few pennies away from a football club by numpties.

[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Churchill Saint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]sotonbigboy88[/bold] wrote:
Not quite the asset stripping many had thought was taking place by KL over the summer. The club has considerably strengthened and added depth to last year's squad. And in the process have not only proved that no player is bigger than the club, but have shown others that you can sell your so called star players, replace those with better quality, whilst turning a large profit. When the season finishes and we have earned our place amongst Europe's elite there will be no issues with financial fair play. Things are certainly on the up again. coyr[/p][/quote]Excuse me?? Can you count?? half of the outlay was covered by tv money after wages are accounted for. In any event it is unlikely that Saints will have paid cash for any of their purchases. In short KL probably banked 60 million of not more.
And thats is without taking into account the immense risk taken of selling our best and most promising players, much to the fury of most Saints fans. What is there to say that we wont face the same scenario next summer??
Dont be naive.[/p][/quote]monteC, why don't you try to think of something negative to say about Ronald Koeman and last weekend's win over West Ham?[/p][/quote]But he does have a point.[/p][/quote]His point has been psised on a hundred times on here.[/p][/quote]And your point is more valid than his?[/p][/quote]What is being said has been said and counter argued all through this summer, the template is a little different, however, the inference is that the club have sold for top dollar, taken a fortune in telly money , bought cheap and KL has pocketed the difference, this poster has gone one further granted and suggested it will be a recurring theme.
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Very insulting indeed given what KLs father did for this club.
I wasn't saying my point was better than his I was suggesting in my comment that his had been somewhat pulled apart as the window had come to an end and perhaps my inference was to shut the fu@k up about it before the young lady thinks I have billions of pounds do I need to be accused of squirrelling a few pennies away from a football club by numpties.fascia123

sotonbigboy88 wrote:
Not quite the asset stripping many had thought was taking place by KL over the summer. The club has considerably strengthened and added depth to last year's squad. And in the process have not only proved that no player is bigger than the club, but have shown others that you can sell your so called star players, replace those with better quality, whilst turning a large profit. When the season finishes and we have earned our place amongst Europe's elite there will be no issues with financial fair play. Things are certainly on the up again. coyr

Excuse me?? Can you count?? half of the outlay was covered by tv money after wages are accounted for. In any event it is unlikely that Saints will have paid cash for any of their purchases. In short KL probably banked 60 million of not more.
And thats is without taking into account the immense risk taken of selling our best and most promising players, much to the fury of most Saints fans. What is there to say that we wont face the same scenario next summer??
Dont be naive.

monteC, why don't you try to think of something negative to say about Ronald Koeman and last weekend's win over West Ham?

But he does have a point.

His point has been psised on a hundred times on here.

And your point is more valid than his?

What is being said has been said and counter argued all through this summer, the template is a little different, however, the inference is that the club have sold for top dollar, taken a fortune in telly money , bought cheap and KL has pocketed the difference, this poster has gone one further granted and suggested it will be a recurring theme.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

zzz

Very insulting indeed given what KLs father did for this club.

I wasn't saying my point was better than his I was suggesting in my comment that his had been somewhat pulled apart as the window had come to an end and perhaps my inference was to shut the fu@k up about it before the young lady thinks I have billions of pounds do I need to be accused of squirrelling a few pennies away from a football club by numpties.

There's nothing wrong with showing respect for other peoples' points of view. However there does come a point when the available evidence (that's "evidence", not "opinion", "conjecture", "rumour", "axe-grinding", etc) means that you needn't be afraid to tell them that they're wrong.

Gentlemanly conduct is fine, but you can take it too far.

[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Churchill Saint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]sotonbigboy88[/bold] wrote:
Not quite the asset stripping many had thought was taking place by KL over the summer. The club has considerably strengthened and added depth to last year's squad. And in the process have not only proved that no player is bigger than the club, but have shown others that you can sell your so called star players, replace those with better quality, whilst turning a large profit. When the season finishes and we have earned our place amongst Europe's elite there will be no issues with financial fair play. Things are certainly on the up again. coyr[/p][/quote]Excuse me?? Can you count?? half of the outlay was covered by tv money after wages are accounted for. In any event it is unlikely that Saints will have paid cash for any of their purchases. In short KL probably banked 60 million of not more.
And thats is without taking into account the immense risk taken of selling our best and most promising players, much to the fury of most Saints fans. What is there to say that we wont face the same scenario next summer??
Dont be naive.[/p][/quote]monteC, why don't you try to think of something negative to say about Ronald Koeman and last weekend's win over West Ham?[/p][/quote]But he does have a point.[/p][/quote]His point has been psised on a hundred times on here.[/p][/quote]And your point is more valid than his?[/p][/quote]What is being said has been said and counter argued all through this summer, the template is a little different, however, the inference is that the club have sold for top dollar, taken a fortune in telly money , bought cheap and KL has pocketed the difference, this poster has gone one further granted and suggested it will be a recurring theme.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Very insulting indeed given what KLs father did for this club.
I wasn't saying my point was better than his I was suggesting in my comment that his had been somewhat pulled apart as the window had come to an end and perhaps my inference was to shut the fu@k up about it before the young lady thinks I have billions of pounds do I need to be accused of squirrelling a few pennies away from a football club by numpties.[/p][/quote]There's nothing wrong with showing respect for other peoples' points of view. However there does come a point when the available evidence (that's "evidence", not "opinion", "conjecture", "rumour", "axe-grinding", etc) means that you needn't be afraid to tell them that they're wrong.
Gentlemanly conduct is fine, but you can take it too far.InsideOutCat

reedhunter1 wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR

BRILLIANT BRILLIANT BRILLIANT!!! I'm so pleased I was wrong! We look better than last year so bring em on! Just a thought though... Excellent business to end up with a 30 mill. profit on transfers but there's 60-80 million TV and place money in someone's arse pocket. The proof about the board's ambition will come if for instance we're close to the so-called big boys come January or even end of the season. Will they 'GO FOR IT' ! or let us be 'cherry picked' again. Time will tell.
For now, can't wait to play that arrogant, offensive, mid-table North London lot. 'COME ON YOU SPURMINATORS' !!!

Arse pocket, do you think they are running a market stall.

Not to go over old ground but wasn't a large amount of unpaid transfer fee left outstanding from NCs days and also god knows whatever else as well?

Surely nowhere near 100 mill. though? Love to see the 'books'.
Anyway Mr Arse pocket I think it's pretty obvious it's not s'posed to be taken literally. A cheque would fit, but even then if Ms. Liebherr had it she'd prob. have to tuck it in her knickers 'Duh' Homer!!! Now if we were talking about Pompey or Spurs your market stall reference might have been correct.

[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Iwozthere[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]reedhunter1[/bold] wrote:
Well done our saints board, what a great job Les has done this season and im sure theres happy faces at St Marys.
COYR[/p][/quote]BRILLIANT BRILLIANT BRILLIANT!!! I'm so pleased I was wrong! We look better than last year so bring em on! Just a thought though... Excellent business to end up with a 30 mill. profit on transfers but there's 60-80 million TV and place money in someone's arse pocket. The proof about the board's ambition will come if for instance we're close to the so-called big boys come January or even end of the season. Will they 'GO FOR IT' ! or let us be 'cherry picked' again. Time will tell.
For now, can't wait to play that arrogant, offensive, mid-table North London lot. 'COME ON YOU SPURMINATORS' !!![/p][/quote]Arse pocket, do you think they are running a market stall.
Not to go over old ground but wasn't a large amount of unpaid transfer fee left outstanding from NCs days and also god knows whatever else as well?[/p][/quote]Surely nowhere near 100 mill. though? Love to see the 'books'.
Anyway Mr Arse pocket I think it's pretty obvious it's not s'posed to be taken literally. A cheque would fit, but even then if Ms. Liebherr had it she'd prob. have to tuck it in her knickers 'Duh' Homer!!! Now if we were talking about Pompey or Spurs your market stall reference might have been correct.Iwozthere

sotonbigboy88 wrote:
Not quite the asset stripping many had thought was taking place by KL over the summer. The club has considerably strengthened and added depth to last year's squad. And in the process have not only proved that no player is bigger than the club, but have shown others that you can sell your so called star players, replace those with better quality, whilst turning a large profit. When the season finishes and we have earned our place amongst Europe's elite there will be no issues with financial fair play. Things are certainly on the up again. coyr

Excuse me?? Can you count?? half of the outlay was covered by tv money after wages are accounted for. In any event it is unlikely that Saints will have paid cash for any of their purchases. In short KL probably banked 60 million of not more.
And thats is without taking into account the immense risk taken of selling our best and most promising players, much to the fury of most Saints fans. What is there to say that we wont face the same scenario next summer??
Dont be naive.

monteC, why don't you try to think of something negative to say about Ronald Koeman and last weekend's win over West Ham?

But he does have a point.

His point has been psised on a hundred times on here.

And your point is more valid than his?

What is being said has been said and counter argued all through this summer, the template is a little different, however, the inference is that the club have sold for top dollar, taken a fortune in telly money , bought cheap and KL has pocketed the difference, this poster has gone one further granted and suggested it will be a recurring theme.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

zzz

Very insulting indeed given what KLs father did for this club.

I wasn't saying my point was better than his I was suggesting in my comment that his had been somewhat pulled apart as the window had come to an end and perhaps my inference was to shut the fu@k up about it before the young lady thinks I have billions of pounds do I need to be accused of squirrelling a few pennies away from a football club by numpties.

There's nothing wrong with showing respect for other peoples' points of view. However there does come a point when the available evidence (that's &quot;evidence", not "opinion", "conjecture", "rumour", "axe-grinding", etc) means that you needn't be afraid to tell them that they're wrong.

Gentlemanly conduct is fine, but you can take it too far.

Sorry inside out I am unsure what you mean?

[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Churchill Saint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]sotonbigboy88[/bold] wrote:
Not quite the asset stripping many had thought was taking place by KL over the summer. The club has considerably strengthened and added depth to last year's squad. And in the process have not only proved that no player is bigger than the club, but have shown others that you can sell your so called star players, replace those with better quality, whilst turning a large profit. When the season finishes and we have earned our place amongst Europe's elite there will be no issues with financial fair play. Things are certainly on the up again. coyr[/p][/quote]Excuse me?? Can you count?? half of the outlay was covered by tv money after wages are accounted for. In any event it is unlikely that Saints will have paid cash for any of their purchases. In short KL probably banked 60 million of not more.
And thats is without taking into account the immense risk taken of selling our best and most promising players, much to the fury of most Saints fans. What is there to say that we wont face the same scenario next summer??
Dont be naive.[/p][/quote]monteC, why don't you try to think of something negative to say about Ronald Koeman and last weekend's win over West Ham?[/p][/quote]But he does have a point.[/p][/quote]His point has been psised on a hundred times on here.[/p][/quote]And your point is more valid than his?[/p][/quote]What is being said has been said and counter argued all through this summer, the template is a little different, however, the inference is that the club have sold for top dollar, taken a fortune in telly money , bought cheap and KL has pocketed the difference, this poster has gone one further granted and suggested it will be a recurring theme.
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Very insulting indeed given what KLs father did for this club.
I wasn't saying my point was better than his I was suggesting in my comment that his had been somewhat pulled apart as the window had come to an end and perhaps my inference was to shut the fu@k up about it before the young lady thinks I have billions of pounds do I need to be accused of squirrelling a few pennies away from a football club by numpties.[/p][/quote]There's nothing wrong with showing respect for other peoples' points of view. However there does come a point when the available evidence (that's "evidence", not "opinion", "conjecture", "rumour", "axe-grinding", etc) means that you needn't be afraid to tell them that they're wrong.
Gentlemanly conduct is fine, but you can take it too far.[/p][/quote]Sorry inside out I am unsure what you mean?fascia123

Blackwaterblue wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.

Tosser, idiots like you shouldn't be allowed to discuss football as you quite clearly know Sweet FA about it all......you filthy dirty inbred skate

"Filthy inbred skate" Very nice abuse. You must be so proud. I think you're all getting a bit carried away with your teams performance so far this season. You lost to the mighty Liverpool, could only draw at home against West Brom, beat Millwall & West Ham!!! Millwall are a struggling Championship team & West Ham are your relegation rivals :-) Wait until Winter sets in and all your foreign players freeze... in more ways than one!!!

[quote][p][bold]RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.[/p][/quote]Tosser, idiots like you shouldn't be allowed to discuss football as you quite clearly know Sweet FA about it all......you filthy dirty inbred skate[/p][/quote]"Filthy inbred skate" Very nice abuse. You must be so proud. I think you're all getting a bit carried away with your teams performance so far this season. You lost to the mighty Liverpool, could only draw at home against West Brom, beat Millwall & West Ham!!! Millwall are a struggling Championship team & West Ham are your relegation rivals :-) Wait until Winter sets in and all your foreign players freeze... in more ways than one!!!PompeySaves

Blackwaterblue wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.

Wow, I never thought I'd see the day - a skate with an understanding of grammar!

Take a photo everyone

Take a photo of what???

what a sh t name

Nearly as original as yours :-)

[quote][p][bold]RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PompeySaves[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]EricMartin'sHat[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote:
Profit, Profit, Profit! But the team's not so good, is it.[/p][/quote]Wow, I never thought I'd see the day - a skate with an understanding of grammar!
Take a photo everyone[/p][/quote]Take a photo of what???[/p][/quote]what a sh t name[/p][/quote]Nearly as original as yours :-)PompeySaves

This club is so good when it comes to dealing with transfer they always know what to do and when to do it and they are so good at making money out of players we got for nothing this club and its board are great and bringing in new guys that are cheaper but better then the players that left is a result to this club knows how to spend money the right way and thats what they have done this transfer window well done saints good work :)

This club is so good when it comes to dealing with transfer they always know what to do and when to do it and they are so good at making money out of players we got for nothing this club and its board are great and bringing in new guys that are cheaper but better then the players that left is a result to this club knows how to spend money the right way and thats what they have done this transfer window well done saints good work :)DanielBateman