“Shermer said it was a “cosmic accident” that human life developed on the planet”

No one could look at a Van-Go Painting and think (paint spill) nor a building by Robert Mills and think (oh cool, look how those stones fell) but they can look at this earth and it’s inhabitants and think “cosmic accident”.

GOD could settle this but he doesn’t, so does that mean there is no GOD or does it simply mean he chooses not to reveal the truth to us. I believe he is real and does not reveal our origin because he requires us to accept his word on faith. This will never be settled, all positions will be based on faith or belief.

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posted on 10/28/2008 4:45:19 PM PDT
by Peter Horry
(Mount Up Everybody and Ride to the Sound of the Guns .. Pat Buchanan)

No science is based on observable data that can be repeated and studied, evolution can not be proven in this manner. Evolution is comprised of deductions from observances, that is not proof. Evolution is as faith or belief based as religion.

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posted on 10/28/2008 4:56:26 PM PDT
by Peter Horry
(Mount Up Everybody and Ride to the Sound of the Guns .. Pat Buchanan)

No, no, I wasn’t trying to say you were saying that. I was throwing out a more general statement about where humanity was very recently in thinking about the world and where we are now—even as we continue to learn and reexamine theories. I threw out the definite number as opposed to a (frustrating) search for answers—which are still changing as we learn more.

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posted on 10/28/2008 5:04:04 PM PDT
by Natchez Hawk
(What's so funny about the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Amendments?)

He most certainly would, and he does but we can only observe and study what is made available to us. He, archaeologists are still having trouble determining how we lived, using available clues, for the last 450 years.

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posted on 10/28/2008 5:04:58 PM PDT
by Peter Horry
(Mount Up Everybody and Ride to the Sound of the Guns .. Pat Buchanan)

Thanks for the information, I will read them. I have a little experience in science/engineering (but not in this field), have never studied theology (but have listened to many who have and read their writing )and realize that all data (such as forensics is open to interpretation and seldom/never complete) but also know that faith that can’t be challenged is worthless. I am always willing to learn. Until next time, good day.

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posted on 10/28/2008 5:45:08 PM PDT
by Peter Horry
(Mount Up Everybody and Ride to the Sound of the Guns .. Pat Buchanan)

No science is based on observable data that can be repeated and studied,...

I assume you meant, "No, science is based on observable data..."

That is correct. And all branches of science, including the various branches of science that contribute to the theory of evolution, must comply with this. It is called the scientific method.

...evolution can not be proven in this manner.

Nowhere in science is there "proof." Theory is the highest level of explanation that is available.

Evolution is comprised of deductions from observances, that is not proof.

It is not supposed to be proof. Science does not deal in "proof." It deals in explanation. The theory of evolution is currently the best explanation for the millions of facts that it covers. It is not contradicted by any significant facts. It makes predictions that lead to new facts. That is all that any theory can be expected to do, and in this the theory of evolution is a better explanatory tool than gravitational theory.

Evolution is as faith or belief based as religion.

That is false, even though that is one of the recent creationist talking points.

When two religions come up with competing claims, how is the issue settled? Most likely a schism, resulting in two similar religions with some differences in belief.

When there are two competing claims in science you turn to the evidence to see which one survives the tests (that "critical thinking" stuff).

The theory of evolution has withstood these tests for 150 years, and grown stronger with each challenge. All of that is based on evidence, not faith.

if you want to know the truth about creation i strongly google kent hovind. i know he in prison cuz of taxes but he still know what he is talking about. he offered 250k to any evolutionist to prove SCIENTIFICALLY that evoloution was true and no one can do it. but google his debates with athiests he schools them every time.

Hardcore Evolutionists are for Big Government and Centralization of Power by Liberals.

Hatred for all things Biblical defines the modern hardcore liberal Evolutionists on Free Republic and their allies in the leadership of the Democrat Party, (the far left leaders of the Democrat Party are all hardcore evolutionists).

Both of these groups hate American historical values, they love liberal judges and judcial activist courts, and both of these groups worship the Big Government public school monopoly above all.

No matter how destructive the Public School Monopoly becomes, the hardcore Evolutionists will still worship the Big Government Public School.

The Free Republic Hardcore Evolutionists and the other Big Government Lefties love the Big Government Public Schools because it is their way of using the point of a gun to promote their materialistic religious views.

The hardcore evolutionists on Free Republic who claim to be small government libertarians are the worst liars of all and have proven they are actually for the worst extreme of Big Government Force. In fact they blubber about their Big Government Public Schools in almost every thread.

The Free Republic Hardcore Evolutionists always appeal to Big Government and favor an Oligarchy.

The Free Republic hardcore evolutionists worship Big Government at its very worst (public school monopoly) but claim libertarianism as a convenient, dishonest excuse for the extreme moral liberalism they spew on this conservative forum.

The Free Republic Hardcore Evolutionists are liars of the worst kind. They repeat the liberal dogma of the far left at DU and the Daily Kos.

Like all liberals, they want the Big Government, centalized power to undermine parental authority while using Big Government Public Schools, (run by liberals) to indoctrinate other people's children.

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