LeePHill wrote: “Harry Reid has continued to serve the constituents of Nevada since 1987.

A moron? Heavens, no! Smarter than the Average Joe….”
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Senator Reid’s statement upon the death of LDS President Gordon B Hinckley certainly would lead one to believe that he is a member.

January 28, 2008

Washington, DC—Nevada Senator Harry Reid released the following statement about the death of President Gordon B. Hinckley, of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

“President Hinckley led a remarkable life. His faith and leadership have inspired countless lives throughout the world. He leaves a deeply rooted legacy on our religion through his teachings and his lifetime of service to the Church. My thoughts and prayers are with his family.”

Frankie, so he is a racist.
As you stated earlier. “The Mormon Church is a virulently racist organization.” Harry is a Morman.
There are others on here who have claimed to be Morman, alindasue for one. I do not believe she has a racist bone in her body, yet you clump her in with your ignorance.

Frankenchrist also says that the GOP is a racist party that treats racism with a wink and a nod. Well, I guess I’m wrong about ” Sheets” Byrd, late Senator of W. Virginia, I always thought he was a demokrat. I was wrong again about George Wallace and many other demokrats who proudly carried the banner of racism. It’s amazing how much I can learn by reading these liberal’s comments. LOL

frosty said, “Frankencgrist, I know several black Americans who belong to the LDS, are they racist too?”

Being LDS myself, I can tell you that our local congregation members (and even people within some of our families) are made up of a wide variety of people from very diverse ancestries and skin colors. Generally, except when it comes to things like sharing family cultural recipes and the like, we don’t think too much about it one way or the other.

oldoc and sozo,
You totally missed that averageJose was commenting on Senator Reid as a person and not questioning his religious affiliation. Sadly, in doing so, you also totally missed the pun in LeePHill’s reply to him.

By the way, I do agree with the letter writer that the headline put on that letter was unnecessarily provocative. As xring pointed out, it was an “effective chose of words by a TNT staff writer designed excite and inflame knee jerks on both sides of the aisle.”

Give it a rest frankenchrist – Romney is worse, not because he is a Mormon, but because he is Romney.

alindasue – the Sunday paper, front page, above the fold carried this article:Mormon Church Clarifies Stance on Caffeine To say that not a whole lot happens in my town is probably an understatement – but I do wish that the local paper and tv news didn’t carry so much Church news.

The letter writer, not the TNT eds, wrote the title to the original letter being discussed. The letter writer, Van Rozay, is a racist and I don’t feel at all compelled to explain why. If you don’t acknowledge that, you’re either a dishonest racist yourself, or you’re an idiot. nuff said.

Alindsue wrote: oldoc and sozo,
You totally missed that averageJose was commenting on Senator Reid as a person and not questioning his religious affiliation. Sadly, in doing so, you also totally missed the pun in LeePHill’s reply to him.
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sumyungboi,
Do you personally know Mr. Rozay? That’s the only reason I could see that you would know for certain whether or not he is a racist. There was no indication of it in the body of the letter itself.

beerBoy,
That’s what you get for living in might-as-well-be-Utah. When I went to school in Rexburg, I was quite surprised that all the programs we’d normally have to go to the chapel to see a satellite broadcast of (before everything could be watched via internet) were right there on normal broadcast TV.

That article sounds interesting. I’ll check the news section on the church web site and see if its there. It probably is but if it’s not, does your local newspaper have a web site?

oldoc,
As I keep telling people, my name is Alinda. Linda is my mom. (Al + Linda = Alinda) I love my name. I’m glad my parents gave it to me – but it can get a little frustrating sometimes…

alindasue, Rozay wrote the title to his letter, and it’s just stupid for you and your pals to try and twist this into something it’s not just because you agree with the guy, which, by the way, doesn’t speak very well for you.

Do you actually know Mr. Rozay?
Nobody here is trying to twist anything. However, you insist that you absolutely know the Mr. Rozay wrote the headline for his letter, all the while stating outright that you won’t tell us how you would know this information.

Either you actually know Mr. Rozay and are stating an opinion about him based on personal experience or you are trolling for a reaction. Which is it?

As a “white guy” I don’t find the headline racist nor offensive. I thought the letter was poorly written, but there is a certain amount of truth in realizing that there is a certain sector of the populace that would find fault with Obama saving GM and obviously, that sector is not African American, nor caucasian women, nor Hispanics seem to be offended by his success

alindasue, the TNT would not have altered the title that Rozay had written for the sole purpose of making him appear racist. You know this, too, so stop pretending like you don’t. It’s really sort of sick that you and your pals are trying to back-peddle Rozay’s chosen title, as though he didn’t say what he said, simply because you agree with the premise of his letter. Although I shouldn’t be surprised that you accept racism as a means to a political end, frankenchrist has announced that you, alindasue, are a racist because you’re a Mormon, and you don’t have the ute to call him out because you agree with his politics in a broader sense. Try standing for something someday.

I never said that I agreed with Mr. Rozay’s letter. I only said that I didn’t find the text of the letter to be in-and-of-itself racist.

This would not be the first time a TNT editor has placed a provocative headline on a letter or article. Even if Mr. Rozay had written the headline, it was the editor’s choice to print it knowing it would be provocative. They can – and do – change the letter writers’ letter titles on a fairly regular basis.

Since you do not seem to actually know Mr. Rozay, you are just assuming that he himself wrote that headline. Short of the editor actually coming in and telling us who wrote the headline, your assumption is no more valid than ours.

As for the rest of what you wrote, it has already been addressed above. Generally, though, I try not to fall into the trading insults game. It is usually best just to ignore them, and I will continue to do so now.

sumyungboi said, “I also notice that Rozay has not come forward to claim…”

I have not noticed Mr. Rozay in these forums here at all. It’s quite possible that, unlike some of us, Mr. Rozay has better things to do than hang around making comments to the letters online. He may not even be aware that you accused him of quacking.

If you listen to blacks – only whites can be racist! That is the indoctrination scenario for training of the idiots in our society! The socialist democrats at the DNC had buttons reading “Vote black and you’ll never go back”!! Can you imagine the RNC having a convention with lapel buttons that read “vote white and be right”!!! The attacks on the RNC would be unbelievable! Where is the reporting on the DNC buttons??!

“the3rdpigshouse says:
Sep. 10, 2012 at 10:34 pm For all you folks who think beerBoy is an unbiased observer of the political fight for the presidency of the greatest nation on earth, I have a surprise for you! beerBoy is an educated black citizen who is well educated and is also an extremely biased supporter of “OH-Bummer” ONLY because he is black!!! beerBoy will cajole you into believing he is objective however, he is one of the most biased and racist people on this site!”

For those of you liberals who are suffering from “white guilt”, please bend over and take it like a man. I for one, am sick of being called a racist because I happened to be born white. I suffer no guilt about it. I’m proud to be of German, Scottish and Irish heritage and make no apologies to anyone or any group. I don’t like being pushed around. I do not go around looking for a group to pick a fight with simply because of their race or ethnicity. Some of the “minority groups” can get by with it because too many whites feel that they somehow offended or hurt those minorities by being born white. I do not owe any one of them a damned thing and refuse to be caught up in the trap they find themselves in. When whites start walking around and bullying people because of their race and demand that the “majority” pay for wrongs that were done in the past and when we have a ” White Congressional Caucus” and schools and groups exclusively for whites, then maybe they’ll have reason to whine. I have no control over what happened in the past. I know some of the liberals will come on and say “but we did this and that to them”. My answer is, GET OVER IT!

LeePHill, I would expect to see you and your ilk walking around the streets carrying signs that say, ” I am GUILTY!. I am one of those crackers who put you in chains, raped your mother and sister. Therefore, I will provide for your every need for the rest of your life”! Now wouldn’t you feel much better if you did that?

ct – there are none so blind as those who refuse to see. I thought, by bolding the points you could figure it out. I will just include the words I bolded so you might not be confused by the other words:

beerboy, there’s not enough space on this page to provide quotes from all of the Al Sharpton’s, Jesse Jackson’s, Vann Jones, any and all of the members of the Congression Black Caucus and even the POTUS himself making racist comments. Give it a break!

“frosty says:
Sep. 11, 2012 at 6:47 am LeePHill, I would expect to see you and your ilk walking around the streets carrying signs that say, ” I am GUILTY!. I am one of those crackers who put you in chains, raped your mother and sister. Therefore, I will provide for your every need for the rest of your life”! Now wouldn’t you feel much better if you did that?”

Well…since you asked…

First…not living up to YOUR expectations moves me up about 100 points on the IQ scale.

I’m not guilty of anything….including ignorance. I’ll allow you the monopoly on that.

The editors/moderators must periodically check the forum. Is it too much to ask that the editors/moderators at TNT reveal the truth about the title of the letter? Please clear this up for us editors/moderators. Put this to bed. Who came up with the title, the letter writer or the editors?

If it was the editors, why was the title chosen? What was the reason?

If the editors refuse to answer my questions, at least give all of us the courtesy to acknowledge the questions and politely decline to answer.

henderth: “Is it too much to ask that the editors/moderators at TNT reveal the truth about the title of the letter?”

Yes, actually it is. As long as they don’t answer that question, leftists can turn the entire topic around and claim that conservatives are racist for looking at something and describing what they see. It also protects them from the valid charge of knowingly using racism as a means to a political end, while being able to blame some nameless editor at some faceless corporation that’s too big to keep an eye on the serfs that it riles up.

So what about it, Cheryl, do you have the guts to step in and clear this up? I suspect not.

Sorry it’s taken so long to check this comment thread. The headline that was used on the letter was the one the writer put on it.

If the letter is approved for online only, which is the case with this one, we try to leave the writer’s headline on it. Most writers generally don’t make much of an effort to write a headline, so then we’ll write one for them.

When a letter has been approved for print, we almost always rewrite the headline because it needs to fit in a tight format on the page. Then we release it for online publication.

Hope that clears up any questions. I’ll check back.

P.S. Some folks seem to assume that we read all the comments. We don’t have time to, but we try to check in on ones that are listed as “most commented” on the home page. If anyone ever has a question, email me directly at cheryl.tucker@thenewstribune.com.

Thank you for taking the time to answer. A lot of the discussion has turned on the question. Perhaps the participants who leaped to the conclusion that you chose the headline will refrain in the future.

Yes, Cheryl did indicate that sometimes the editors change the headline, and sometimes they don’t. My remark speaks to the uninformed conclusions that some readers came to. Some readers concluded that the letter writer wrote the headline, some readers concluded that the editor wrote the headline. Neither conclusion appears to have been adequately informed. The former conclusion appears to be correct, but without Cheryl’s answer, it was merely conjecture (albeit perhaps reasonable, based on the readers’ previous experience with TNT).

That said, I am making some assumptions about what the readers knew or didn’t know, so my conclusion that the readers were uninformed could very well be an uninfoirmed conclusion. I may also have misunderstood some or all of the readers’ remarks, and they may not have really come to the conclusions I think they came to (maybe the readers were just baiting and/or just having fun). So it goes with online forums.

What you are basically saying is that you are a racist if you don’t believe everything about Obama.
That you are a racist if you believe in marriage between one man and one woman.
That you are a racist if you don’t believe in redistribution of wealth.
That you are a racist if you are a Christian.

So if I don’t agree with something that you say, you can call me a racist.

How about believing in the sanctity of human life. Is that racist too? How so?

It looks like all of the liberals have run for their rat holes since Cheryl came out and said that the letter writer did write the headline. It just proves again what we conservatives say about liberals.

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