Im almost glad we're going to lose so people will stop giving Borges a bunch of free passes. If we win, no one is going to remember we have like 50 yards of offense this half and this crap is going to continue for another year or two

The guy who runs the cafeteria at the hospital I work at really reminds me of big AL B. It doesn't matter what he makes he always uses the same two spices. He's affectionately known as "tony two spice".

Borges and his three plays a game remind me a lot of tony, and though I won't call Al anything affectionately, I will call him Al three spice from now on. Please DB, leave Al in Iowa after this game.

Gardner made a mistake, no doubt about it. Yet why was Michigan in a position that they needed a game winning drive in the final few minutes? Because up until that point the Borges offense managed six yards total offense...

Random media guy: "coach Hoke-your offense gained all of 32 yards in the second half with 26 of them coming on the last drive where Garner fjumbled. Does that change your feeliing about the offensie at alll"

Hoke: "Absolutely NOT. Matter of fact I gave Big Al a contract extension at the end of the game. He's ithe BEST."

I feel bad for Devin. Borges puts him into such a tough position with his shitty play calling and Devin has been trying to compensate by making big plays and probably trying too hard to make it happen.

We will be 7-4 after this game. 7-5 after next week. If we had won all of the close games, we could be 10-2 (assuming OSU game is not close). If we had lost all the close games (ND, Akron, UConn, Northwestern), we could have been 3-9. So 7-5 is about right for this team. Which, by the way, is pathetic for a coach in his 3rd year in this bad conference.

When we lose next week, we'll have lost four of our last five. We're an OT win over a terrible team away from a very Rodriguez like five straight losses to close out the season. We've utterly collapsed.

This is a team that has thrown in the towel completely. No defending coaches that allow this to happen.

Great records when you live in the past. Put up the records of the last 6 to 10 years. We are now one of the bottom teams in the Big Ten with no light at the end of the tunnel until we get the right coach. 9 years without a Big Ten title and we are years away from competing for one.

Never have I called for Hoke to be fired. But rationally thinking, how is he in any way outperforming Rich Rod? Sure, he had the 11-2 debut, but he has regressed to equal RR's output, where at least RR progressed to that point.

Yup. He realized what he had. Ran a good system for Denard et al and Put them in a position to win. Something we know rich rod could not do. I'm not real happy with Hoke right now either, but to say they are now at the same point is not something I agree with. This is assuming of course, Hoke can assess the offense in the off season objectively

This team is not well prepared or playing well in any phase. 11-2 to 6-7/7-7. There is talent and it is not performing in any phase to the degree necessary to win in this conference? The teen and body of work is in the wrong direction.

I just don't know if I can keep doing this to myself. If the powers that be don't care enough about this football team to make tough decisions and hire competent coaches than why should I care this much about this team.

I just feel terrible for the players. They put their faith and careers in the hands of this staff and those on offense couldn't have been let down more if they had been coached by my grandmothers lawn bowling team. I just don't know what to say anymore.

Assuming a loss next week (and I think that's safe to do,) we're two plays away from being 5-7 with losses to UConn and Akron.

This hasn't just been a bad season, this has been one of the worst seasons in modern Michigan football history. The only reason that isn't jumping out at people more is because the Rodriguez era distorted our perception of success and failure. This has been a disaster.

Can a coaching staff rebound, not from a disappointing season but a disatrous season? I don't think that happens too often.

Except we should have lost to Northwestern to and could easily been 4-8. Gardner is Horrible. Before anybody defends him some of the sacks are his fault because of poor judgement. Turn overs, poor decisions. He just is not the answer. Our two best offensive lineman are gone after this year. If the recruits now start falling we are in a tailspin unti you start over with another coach and he has a few years again. Many top programs such as Alabama, USC etc have gone through this same thing until finally finding the righ coach. 9 years without winning the big ten with no end in sight. 1-5 against MSU and worse against Ohio. We are a bottom program in the Big Ten for the last 6 years now. With the recruiting we have had this is ALL COACHING. My hopes were high for Hoke but he now seems in over his head. I would say unfortunately one more year and if we do not turn this around with beating our rivals and getting to the BIg ten Championship game he should go. 4 years and they are then all his players. He needs to fire Borges and the offensive line coach after the year or all but Mattison need to go after next year. He will not make the tough decisions he needs to. Cannot wait for the day this program is back. It will be someday but I am afraid we have a few more years to wait.

I think the people hating on Gardner are a bunch of shitheads and I hope they defect to OSU. Yes DG should have gone out of bounds, it was a good play by the D.

I still think he can be a very good player, but the guys running the show aren't up for the job.

It was an improved game for Borges but that isn't saying much. Greg Davis probably called a better game, maybe, I don't know, its a toss-up.

At the end of the year DB needs to have a sit-down with Hoke, heart-to-heart and if he doesn't like what he hears i.e. the offensive coaches are doing a great job... it may be time to fire Brady Hoke. Part of it depends on what's available right now.

Gardner is a good young man. Just a very poor quarterback. Count the turnovers this year. He makes poor decisions and to many times takes to long to make decisions. Yes he has a chance to be average with an offensive line and a beeter game plan but he will never be good. Hoke needs to make tough decisions to fire Borges and the offensive line coach or he needs to go.

So sick of hearing about Hoke being a great recruiter. It's not showing up on the field, in fact I see RR's guys still doing most of the heavy lifting on this team and I fear for next year when our only 2 functional O linemen are gone, our #1 WR is gone, and the Gordons are not making plays on defense anymore.

This is Michigan, I expect top 10 classes every year, and Hoke has delivered, but we have the 15th ranked class so far for 2014, and it's not likely to improve all that much, that's not GREAT recruiting.