I feel like this has probably been brought up at some point before, but there is something wrong with the suggested spread generator. If you set a Pokemon to level 1 and mess around by giving it random moves, it's possible to generate blatantly illegal EV spreads. For instance, I just managed to get a Torterra with 436 Atk EVs by setting it to level 1 and putting in Frenzy Plant, Outrage, SolarBeam, and Worry Seed as its attacks (meaning it had 399 Atk, 51 more than it is possible to get and the equivalent of about base 132). Here's a picture for proof:

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I also managed to create an Alomomola with 676+ Atk EV (390 Attack, between base 125 and base 130) using the suggested spread generator, but that one was deemed illegal for use because it had '82' to many EVs. I did manage to set all the other EVs to 252 and use it in balanced hackmons however (I forfeited as soon as the battle started, it was just a test).

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And here's an Alomomola with 676+ Def EVs, giving it a little more than 26% more physical bulk than usual

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yeah people time stall like faggots. please make it from 150 seconds to, like, 30 seconds.

also, these variations suck. when I win I get +4, and I get around -25 whenever I lose. I have 48 wins / 11 losses and I have like, a "decent" score when on PO this would be like 1450 - 1500s -- enough for req.

yeah people time stall like faggots. please make it from 150 seconds to, like, 30 seconds.

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Is there any reason why the kick timer is preferred over a timer ala Shoddy/Pokémon Lab? The usual response is "get a mod," but it would be easier to have a timer that doesn't require you to trigger the kick multiple times before subsequently informing a mod.

why dont you just make it like they do on PO, where you get no min back once you return, so if you stall you start right back--

Ex: say my opponent has stalled me 90 out of 150 secs. the next time he stalls, make it 60 seconds, not back to 150 (and it does go back to 150, it only accelerates towards the end of the battle).

However, on PS, my opponent literally take 60 seconds to pull of a move on an offensive based team. Please. On PO, time goes down when you don't make a move and it only goes back up with activity, which is better imo.

Anyway, "getting a mod" is not easy either. Especially since what can they do anyway? Usually their busy, or godforbid, its "mod-only" chat. Thats also bs. Just PM if you don't want to discuss something with everyone else. Now we have to PM these mods (which half of them ignore you). *sigh*

shortugal, this is the proper thread to air your grievances about Pokemon Showdown not being enough like Pokemon Online. Claiming the mods not answering your "requests" fast enough is not a bug. Nor is the timer a bug.

The cancel button issues are being worked on. As is join battle button. The big issue is server overload. Solving the server problems will solve a number of other problems. However, there is not a quick solution to that.

Eruption Heatran is supposed to be nature-locked into Quiet. However, the teambuilder allows you to select any nature and doesn't give any comparability warnings or anything.

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When you try to enter a match it will tell you that it is not allowed.

Anyway, "getting a mod" is not easy either. Especially since what can they do anyway? Usually their busy, or godforbid, its "mod-only" chat. Thats also bs. Just PM if you don't want to discuss something with everyone else. Now we have to PM these mods (which half of them ignore you). *sigh*

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God forbid that a mod be afk!

Timestalling is a bannable offense, we ban people who are found to be maliciously using the clock, thats what we can do.

Whether modchat is set or not, you should PM a mod anyway as the chat doesn't really need to know nor care about people timestalling, as well as the fact that during peak times it is quite easy to miss lines of chat so mods may miss your timestall comment. (Modchat is never really set if mods want to discuss something without the chat interfering, we have IRC for that)

I recommend pm'ing mods who are currently active in chat, as they are far more likely to respond then just pm'ing any random mod.

When you try to enter a match it will tell you that it is not allowed.

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Fair enough.

Anyway, two more things:

1. It seems Mental Herb does not work correctly with Encore. In it will say that the Encore ended and the mental herb is consumed, but the pokemon still makes the same move it did last time. See turns 1 and 2 in this match

I was attempting to use Light Screen on turn 2 with Cresselia. Just to make sure I did not misclick, I replayed my opponent immediately afterwards with the same exact setup and the same thing happened.

2. Might not be the appropriate thread, but would it be possible to allow people to claim victory in unrated battles if the opponent disconnects? Currently it just gives the text "This isn't a rated battle; victory doesn't mean anything. Do you just want to see the text "you win"? Okay. You win." if you try. I can see this for ladder purposes but it's really annoying when you're trying to obtain a replay of a specific bug as it won't even bring you to the winning screen to obtain the replay.

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Zarel, Pwnemon and I broke doubles. It was my lastmon Cresselia vs. his lastmon Politoed. We PP stalled until I only had Helping Hand left. At this point, I could not target anything with Helping Hand, but I also could not struggle, meaning we physically couldnt finish the battle. So helping hand should probably just fail when this happens.

Pwnemon:scizor scares you a bit ehtypon77:noPwnemon:also FUK CRESZtypon77:blissey does more actuallytypon77:because of SR
The foe's Cresselia used Helping Hand!
The foe's Cresselia is ready to help the foe's Breloom!
Scizor used Bullet Punch!
[DEBUG] Technician boost.
The foe's Breloom lost 60% of its health!
The foe's Breloom used Mach Punch!
[DEBUG] Technician boost.
[DEBUG] Boosting from Helping Hand.
The Fighting Gem strengthened Mach Punch's power!
It's super effective! Blissey lost 100% of its health!
Blissey fainted!typon77:fuck yeahPwnemon:oh only did 60% :9
Pwnemon sent out Rotom-Wash!Turn 2

The foe's Breloom used Protect!
[DEBUG] Success chance: 100%.
The foe's Breloom protected itself!
Scizor used Bullet Punch!
The foe's Breloom protected itself!
Rotom-Wash used Volt Switch!
The foe's Cresselia lost 25% of its health!
Pwnemon called Rotom-Wash back!
Pwnemon sent out Politoed!
Politoed's Drizzle made it rain!
The foe's Cresselia used Trick Room!
The foe's Cresselia twisted the dimensions!Turn 3

typon77 called Cresselia back!
typon77 sent out Ninetales!
The foe's Ninetales's Drought intensified the sun's rays!
The foe's Breloom used Mach Punch!
[DEBUG] Technician boost.
Scizor lost 34% of its health!
Scizor used Bullet Punch!
[DEBUG] Technician boost.
The foe's Breloom lost 40% of its health!
The foe's Breloom fainted!
Politoed used Encore!
But it failed!Pwnemon:after this match im changing cb to loPwnemon:on scizzertypon77:oh you're lockedtypon77:into BPtypon77:cool
typon77 sent out Heatran!Turn 4

typon77 called Ninetales back!
typon77 sent out Cresselia!
Pwnemon called Scizor back!
Pwnemon sent out Rotom-Wash!
Politoed used Protect!
[DEBUG] Success chance: 100%.
Politoed protected itself!
The foe's Heatran used Eruption!
Politoed protected itself!
[DEBUG] Sunny Day fire boost.
A critical hit! It's not very effective... Rotom-Wash lost 100% of its health!
Rotom-Wash fainted!Pwnemon:you didn't figure that outPwnemon:?Pwnemon:oh jesus christtypon77:i thought you were just spamming at Breloomtypon77:also i wouldve outsped and KO'd next turntypon77:so it was irrelevant
Pwnemon sent out Scizor!Turn 5

Pwnemon called Politoed back!
Pwnemon sent out Ludicolo!
The foe's Cresselia used Helping Hand!
The foe's Cresselia is ready to help the foe's Heatran!
Scizor used U-turn!
It's super effective! The foe's Cresselia lost 70% of its health!
Pwnemon called Scizor back!
Pwnemon sent out Politoed!
The foe's Cresselia ate its Sitrus Berry!
The foe's Cresselia restored HP using its Sitrus Berry!
Politoed's Drizzle made it rain!
The foe's Heatran used Eruption!
[DEBUG] rain fire suppress.
[DEBUG] Boosting from Helping Hand.
Ludicolo lost 55% of its health!
[DEBUG] rain fire suppress.
[DEBUG] Boosting from Helping Hand.
It's not very effective... Politoed lost 16% of its health!
Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!Turn 6

typon77 called Heatran back!
typon77 sent out Ninetales!
The foe's Ninetales's Drought intensified the sun's rays!
Pwnemon called Politoed back!
Pwnemon sent out Kyurem-Black!
Kyurem-Black is radiating a bursting aura!
The foe's Cresselia used Moonlight!
The foe's Cresselia regained health!
Ludicolo used Hydro Pump!
[DEBUG] Sunny Day water suppress.
The foe's Cresselia lost 14% of its health!
The twisted dimensions returned to normal!Turn 7

Pwnemon called Politoed back!
Pwnemon sent out Scizor!
The foe's Cresselia used Helping Hand!
The foe's Cresselia is ready to help the foe's Ninetales!
The foe's Ninetales used Heat Wave!
[DEBUG] Sunny Day fire boost.
[DEBUG] Boosting from Helping Hand.
A critical hit! Ludicolo lost 45% of its health!
[DEBUG] Sunny Day fire boost.
[DEBUG] Boosting from Helping Hand.
It's super effective! Scizor lost 66% of its health!
Ludicolo fainted!
Scizor fainted!typon77:lolcrit
Pwnemon sent out Kyurem-Black!
Pwnemon sent out Politoed!
Politoed's Drizzle made it rain!
Kyurem-Black is radiating a bursting aura!Turn 9

Pwnemon:id have won if i had an LO scizorPwnemon::(typon77:maybePwnemon:also if i didn't think that CB BP ohkoedtypon77:My breloom has max HPtypon77:due to TRtypon77:that doesnt change it to 60% from OHKOPwnemon:oh truetypon77:but it would still do more
typon77 called Ninetales back!
typon77 sent out Heatran!
The foe's Cresselia used Psychic!
Politoed lost 16% of its health!
Politoed used Surf!
[DEBUG] rain water boost.
It's not very effective... Kyurem-Black lost 19% of its health!
[DEBUG] rain water boost.
It's super effective! The foe's Heatran lost 58% of its health!
[DEBUG] rain water boost.
The foe's Cresselia lost 17% of its health!
Kyurem-Black used Dragon Claw!
[DEBUG] Immunity handler suppressed by Mold Breaker.
[DEBUG] Immunity handler suppressed by Mold Breaker.
The foe's Cresselia lost 55% of its health!
Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!Turn 10

Pwnemon:die cresseliaPwnemon:die
The foe's Cresselia used Moonlight!
The foe's Cresselia regained health!
The foe's Heatran used Sunny Day!
The sunlight turned harsh!
Politoed used Encore!
The foe's Cresselia received an encore!
Kyurem-Black used Dragon Claw!
[DEBUG] TryHit handler suppressed by Mold Breaker.
It's not very effective... The foe's Heatran lost 35% of its health!
Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!Turn 11

Politoed used Protect!
[DEBUG] Success chance: 100%.
Politoed protected itself!
The foe's Cresselia used Moonlight!
The foe's Cresselia regained health!
The foe's Heatran used Earth Power!
Politoed protected itself!
Kyurem-Black used Dragon Claw!
[DEBUG] TryHit handler suppressed by Mold Breaker.
It's not very effective... The foe's Heatran lost 7% of its health!
The foe's Heatran fainted!
Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!
The twisted dimensions returned to normal!
typon77 sent out Ninetales!Turn 12

Pwnemon:i might actually pull this out :O
The foe's Ninetales used Protect!
[DEBUG] Success chance: 100%.
The foe's Ninetales protected itself!
Kyurem-Black used Dragon Claw!
The foe's Ninetales protected itself!
Politoed used Surf!
[DEBUG] Sunny Day water suppress.
It's not very effective... Kyurem-Black lost 6% of its health!
The foe's Ninetales protected itself!
[DEBUG] Sunny Day water suppress.
The foe's Cresselia lost 5% of its health!
The foe's Cresselia used Moonlight!
The foe's Cresselia regained health!
Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!Turn 13

Politoed used Protect!
[DEBUG] Success chance: 100%.
Politoed protected itself!
The foe's Ninetales used Protect!
[DEBUG] Success chance: 50%.
But it failed!
Kyurem-Black used Dragon Claw!
The foe's Ninetales lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Ninetales fainted!
The foe's Cresselia used Moonlight!
But it failed!
The foe's Cresselia's encore ended!typon77:NOOOtypon77:i needed that to win
typon77 sent out Victini!Turn 14

typon77:wait no i didntPwnemon:damn str8
The foe's Victini used Protect!
[DEBUG] Success chance: 100%.
The foe's Victini protected itself!
Kyurem-Black used Dragon Claw!
The foe's Victini protected itself!
Politoed used Encore!
The foe's Cresselia received an encore!
The foe's Cresselia used Moonlight!
But it failed!Turn 15

typon77:FUCKtypon77:FUCKtypon77:FUCKtypon77:FUCKtypon77:FUCKPwnemon:loltypon77:forgot about thatPwnemon:tried to tr eh?typon77:y
Politoed used Protect!
[DEBUG] Success chance: 100%.
Politoed protected itself!
Kyurem-Black used Dragon Claw!
The foe's Victini lost 71% of its health!
The foe's Victini used V-create!
[DEBUG] Sunny Day fire boost.
Kyurem-Black lost 76% of its health!
The foe's Victini's Defense fell!
The foe's Victini's Special Defense fell!
The foe's Victini's Speed fell!
Kyurem-Black fainted!
The foe's Cresselia used Moonlight!
But it failed!Turn 16

typon77:BULKYPwnemon:but is it enough?
The foe's Victini used Protect!
[DEBUG] Success chance: 100%.
The foe's Victini protected itself!
Politoed used Surf!
The foe's Victini protected itself!
[DEBUG] Sunny Day water suppress.
The foe's Cresselia lost 6% of its health!
The foe's Cresselia used Moonlight!
The foe's Cresselia regained health!
The foe's Cresselia's encore ended!Turn 17

Politoed used Surf!
[DEBUG] Sunny Day water suppress.
It's super effective! The foe's Victini lost 29% of its health!
[DEBUG] Sunny Day water suppress.
The foe's Cresselia lost 6% of its health!
The foe's Victini fainted!
The foe's Cresselia used Psychic!
Politoed lost 15% of its health!
Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!Turn 18

Pwnemon:nahPwnemon:i can ppstall your psychicsPwnemon:don't believe me?typon77:this isnt doubles
Politoed used Encore!
The foe's Cresselia received an encore!
The foe's Cresselia used Psychic!
Politoed lost 16% of its health!
Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!Turn 20

Politoed used Ice Beam!
The foe's Cresselia lost 10% of its health!
The foe's Cresselia used Psychic!
Politoed lost 15% of its health!
Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Cresselia's encore ended!Turn 22

Pwnemon:i keep forgetting to select "at who?"typon77:yeah same
Politoed used Encore!
The foe's Cresselia received an encore!
The foe's Cresselia used Psychic!
Politoed lost 17% of its health!
Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!Turn 23

Pwnemon:loltypon77:this is awful
Politoed used Encore!
The foe's Cresselia received an encore!
The foe's Cresselia used Psychic!
A critical hit! Politoed lost 30% of its health!
Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!Turn 26

typon77:suck my fat dick politoedtypon77:waitPwnemon:noPwnemon:cress is a female
Politoed used Ice Beam!
The foe's Cresselia lost 11% of its health!
The foe's Cresselia used Psychic!
Politoed lost 15% of its health!
Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Cresselia's encore ended!Turn 28

Politoed used Encore!
The foe's Cresselia received an encore!
The foe's Cresselia used Psychic!
Politoed lost 16% of its health!
Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!Turn 29

typon77:suck my cervixPwnemon:lol
Politoed used Ice Beam!
The foe's Cresselia lost 9% of its health!
The foe's Cresselia used Psychic!
Politoed lost 15% of its health!
Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Cresselia's encore ended!Turn 31

Pwnemon:you've only got like two psychics left right?typon77:idkPwnemon:also voila, 30 turnstypon77:i cant readPwnemon:funnyPwnemon:when you start using struggle i'll know
Politoed used Encore!
The foe's Cresselia received an encore!
The foe's Cresselia used Psychic!
Politoed lost 15% of its health!
Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Cresselia's encore ended!Turn 32

Pwnemon:nowtypon77:fuck yeahPwnemon:suffertypon77:KO you with struggle critPwnemon:you can't struggle until you've used up all the rest of your ppsPwnemon:by then i'll be like full hptypon77:shhPwnemon:wait, you can't use helping hand at all?typon77:nopePwnemon:this may be interesting as hellPwnemon:ZAREL WE HAVE A PROBLEMtypon77:which means i only have 6 PP to use uptypon77:suck it pwnemon
Politoed used Ice Beam!
The foe's Cresselia lost 10% of its health!
The foe's Cresselia used Trick Room!
The foe's Cresselia twisted the dimensions!
Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!Turn 33

typon77:./ban pwnemonPwnemon:lol
Politoed used Ice Beam!
A critical hit! The foe's Cresselia lost 19% of its health!
[DEBUG] artificial immunity.
[DEBUG] immune to status.
The foe's Cresselia used Trick Room!
The twisted dimensions returned to normal!
Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!Turn 34

typon77:no ill still kill myself firsttypon77:phuck this
typon77 left.
typon77 joined.
Politoed used Ice Beam!
The foe's Cresselia lost 11% of its health!
The foe's Cresselia used Trick Room!
The foe's Cresselia twisted the dimensions!
Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!Turn 35

The restart or kick was interrupted by activity.Pwnemon:you dont have any moonlights left?typon77:dont kill me so i can see what happens when i get to 0 tr pptypon77:no moonlights or psychicstypon77:just Helping Hand and trPwnemon:yeah i was going to let you livetypon77:3 trs nowPwnemon:to see if we broke doubles
Politoed used Protect!
[DEBUG] Success chance: 100%.
Politoed protected itself!
The foe's Cresselia used Trick Room!
The twisted dimensions returned to normal!
Politoed restored HP using its Leftovers!Turn 36

My friend and I were in a game, and, we attempted to pick our move Meinshao against Bronzong, he chose High Jump Kick, I chose Gyro Ball, however, the game said "Waiting for opponent" even though we both chose, we canceled and tried again, and then it worked. Next, I switched in dusknoir, he tried to switch out, but for some reason Meinshao attacked again (it was choice banded) and died to recoil. I'm not sure what happened exactly, but, I can send the replay.