Dawkins' memetics links to Eisler, Berne, & Hedges - Atheist Nexus2016-12-10T01:58:57Zhttp://atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/dawkins-memetics-links-to-eisler-berne-hedges?groupUrl=richarddawkins&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI stand informed.tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-04-09:2182797:Comment:19199282012-04-09T05:21:56.207ZDavid Laytonhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/DavidLayton
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<p>I stand informed.</p> War is a Force that Gives Us…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-04-08:2182797:Comment:19192692012-04-08T23:05:23.603ZRuth Anthony-Gardnerhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/RuthAnthonyGardner
<p><em>War is a Force that Gives Us Meaning</em> gives powerful first hand accounts of war from a veteran war correspondent. The conclusions Hedges draws about the psychology, politics, and history of war aren't metaphysical. It's not about "forces." That's just a metaphor in the title. He makes generalizations from his first hand observations mostly, though he draws on history. It isn't about memetics at all. I learned a lot about the real world vs government lies of omission from this…</p>
<p><em>War is a Force that Gives Us Meaning</em> gives powerful first hand accounts of war from a veteran war correspondent. The conclusions Hedges draws about the psychology, politics, and history of war aren't metaphysical. It's not about "forces." That's just a metaphor in the title. He makes generalizations from his first hand observations mostly, though he draws on history. It isn't about memetics at all. I learned a lot about the real world vs government lies of omission from this book.</p> Interesting that Dawkins is g…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-04-08:2182797:Comment:19189512012-04-08T17:25:33.448ZDavid Laytonhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/DavidLayton
<p>Interesting that Dawkins is generally considered the person who made memetics famous. Memetics is like string theory, interesting and holding a great deal of explanatory power, but as yet unproven in experiment. I'm sure Dawkins is aware (and probably Dennett, too) that it would be very hard to create a solid experimental design to test whether a proposed meme actually exists. Until then, memes remain more in the area of philosophy than of science. If we are not careful in our talk of memes,…</p>
<p>Interesting that Dawkins is generally considered the person who made memetics famous. Memetics is like string theory, interesting and holding a great deal of explanatory power, but as yet unproven in experiment. I'm sure Dawkins is aware (and probably Dennett, too) that it would be very hard to create a solid experimental design to test whether a proposed meme actually exists. Until then, memes remain more in the area of philosophy than of science. If we are not careful in our talk of memes, we can end up dangerously close to metaphysics, especially of the Hegelian kind, talking of "historical forces" and so on. The title "War is a Force that Gives us Meaning" troubles me since it smacks of historicism of this kind. Perhaps the book itself does not make such a case, but the title does point in that direction.</p>