My camber weight 29lbs. Over the holidays she ate a little too much and gained a dropper a post. Gonna take her to the gym and go tubeless and get new wheels. Hopefully she can be back down to a healthy weight of 26 lbs soon.

Wow,some of those xc sub 20's are pretty interesting but they would be all hat no cattle in these parts.

It's the Indian, not the arrow.

Plenty of bro-brah "AM" riders get smoked on downhills by fast "XC" riders on HTs and short travel FS bikes. Guys like Nino Schurter and Marco Fontana would probably blow anyone you know out of the water...on a hardtail.

I'm no weight weenie but I am so tired of hearing about how these light weight bikes would disintegrate after one down hill "in my neck of the woods". Light weight parts are expensive because they are 1) in demand, 2) difficult to manufacture and 3) made of higher quality/modern materials. It's easy to make a part lighter. It is difficult to make a part lighter and just as strong as its "AM" counterpart. Some of the cheapie lightweight parts are going to break but most of those come from fleabay where you ultimately get what you pay for. How many sets of Enve wheels does Peaty go through in a season of DH I wonder?

On the blowing light xc bikes up you have to account rider weight in there. My roommate weighs 125lbs and ride 22-24 lbs XC bikes on the same trails I ride my bike and they live. But there is a 60lb weight difference between the two of us. Also he is a pro racer so his lines and skill make it so he can ride that bike.