tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post3953674295160684226..comments2016-12-09T11:55:14.577-05:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: Frame PlansVelo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-78579313049882501222012-06-15T10:05:43.465-04:002012-06-15T10:05:43.465-04:00I know this post is almost a year old now, but I t...I know this post is almost a year old now, but I thought I might resurrect it. After happily owning Rando for awhile, here are few things that would persuade me go for this pass hunter:<br /><br />1. Lighter tubes: Reynolds 953, 853, Columbus Spirt or Zona.<br />2. Canti Brakes<br />3. Clearance for 35c Tires w/Fenders (I&#39;m for keeping the clearances tidy--don&#39;t listen to the gravel guys--no need for larger than 35c)<br />4. Lighting accommodations--fork harnesses and perhaps the little canti-bridge integrated taillight arm like Boulder uses.<br />5. Since it will use modern TiG construction, I like the idea of giving the finish and logo a more contemporary vibe. Something that would look better with a Swift Industries or Zugster front bag than a Berthoud. <br />6. An 1 1/8 threadless fork would be nice (but not a deal-breaker if you stay with 1 inch).Scottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-88094123058899462842011-07-23T11:47:42.507-04:002011-07-23T11:47:42.507-04:00I would love to see a bike that lands in the middl...I would love to see a bike that lands in the middle of the rando and the polyvalent. An attractive lugged steel frame for 650B wheels, aimed at rando and light touring.Galenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10143039226169768705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-60578888923399388852011-07-03T03:36:12.584-04:002011-07-03T03:36:12.584-04:00How about a mixte that is higher end for the girls...How about a mixte that is higher end for the girls? A low trail randonneur/touring/road bike that is lugged with super tubing would be wonderful. The ladies have enough low end mixtes to ride to the cafe on. I don&#39;t think I can stand over any of the polyvants or randos. Smaller women and men have trouble with frame sizing. Unlike taller people who can choose to go smaller, mid range or bigger frame, a short person is limited to standover height or whatever they can tolerate. This often means the child&#39;s size bike. The great thing about mixtes is that a person can get on a slightly larger frame that fits better without worrying about top tubes....and mixtes are cute.heathernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1173658074432849532011-07-01T14:46:13.815-04:002011-07-01T14:46:13.815-04:00@dwain: Just build up your commuter with Sun CR-18...@dwain: Just build up your commuter with Sun CR-18&#39;s and relace with new rims as necessary. At ~$25 they&#39;re cheaper than a lot of disc rotors, and without the added weight and mechanical doodads.manderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14825819771373993710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-55674595873694111142011-07-01T14:42:31.289-04:002011-07-01T14:42:31.289-04:00Hell Yes! Get Maxway in Taiwan to build it, design...Hell Yes! Get Maxway in Taiwan to build it, design it well and they will sell like mad. There are not enough affordable/ well designed low trail/ rando frames out there.manderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14825819771373993710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-91223655817825031322011-06-30T07:53:12.671-04:002011-06-30T07:53:12.671-04:00Oh, another (tiny) thing: a welded frame should ob...Oh, another (tiny) thing: a welded frame should obviously have a <a href="http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-quill-stem.html" rel="nofollow">welded stem</a>; why not offer one painted to match the frame? Coordinated stems never fail to cheer me up.Uncle Anklenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-6343619345484903712011-06-29T05:33:21.980-04:002011-06-29T05:33:21.980-04:00Very informative and interesting, thanks a lot!Very informative and interesting, thanks a lot!sto creditshttp://www.gamegoldfast.com/sto/buy-sto-credits.phpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-69398131003142601632011-06-28T20:51:46.380-04:002011-06-28T20:51:46.380-04:00I was just thinking disc brakes, too, when I saw t...I was just thinking disc brakes, too, when I saw the two posts above suggesting the same thing. If you want to go up hills, you have to come down, and discs don&#39;t wear out the rims. I wish I had had that option for my Polyvalent. My commute is short but involves 400+ feet of climbing, with the same descent coming home. I don&#39;t think I&#39;ve seen a mixte of any sort with disc brakes. That would be unique, and very practical. I hope this talk of disc brakes doesn&#39;t make the traditionalists have seizures. :)<br /><br />Mid-fork rack braze-ons would be great, too. Let those forks flex like they were meant to!dwainedibblynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-55317230505689137682011-06-28T15:11:02.551-04:002011-06-28T15:11:02.551-04:00light-er (but not ultralight) tubing would be nice...light-er (but not ultralight) tubing would be nice, the tig-welding is a great idea (lugs look nice, tigs work nice), and not too much clearance is fantastic: I&#39;d rather have a better geometry than the ability to fit giant tires (ignore the gravel grinder patrol!)<br />650b in smaller sizes is a good idea, if you&#39;re going to make smaller sizes.<br />Are you looking at mid-fork braze-ons for a front rack? would you consider putting them at the same location as rivendell and rawland?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-24708341083762397442011-06-28T14:17:48.956-04:002011-06-28T14:17:48.956-04:00Canti brakes would be great for me, 35mm tires wit...Canti brakes would be great for me, 35mm tires with fenders would be good. <br /><br />I love the look of lugged frames but keeping the price down is more important IMO. And welded frames can be beautiful too, my Co-Motion Americano is a perfect (though not inexpensive) example of that. <br /><br />So far as tube sets go a little tougher makes up for being a little heavier IMO.<br /><br />And threaded, of course.<br /><br />Mounts for a slap guard like on your bike in the pictures (please?). And the color of that bike looks perfect too. Can I just have your bike?Ron Wnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-28519790878655651262011-06-28T12:35:10.322-04:002011-06-28T12:35:10.322-04:00Make an affordable low-trail randonneur frame in t...Make an affordable low-trail randonneur frame in the spirit of Surly. With a threaded fork and a horizontal top tube, this does&#39;nt exist on the market for now.<br /><br />I&#39;m a tall man with long legs. Ideal frame for me will be 63cm x 58cm. Which is also hard to find.dudtourhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17175615579555706069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-32710924001757463432011-06-28T10:34:01.084-04:002011-06-28T10:34:01.084-04:00I have an old IRD frame,
tig weilded but with a sl...I have an old IRD frame,<br />tig weilded but with a sliver fillet on top of it. Looks great, a lot better then the tig welds.<br />The did it on the seat tube and head tube.<br /><br />And why not discs? Some builders are doing it and even if it weighs more the performance more than makes up for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-89203670985128751882011-06-28T02:04:03.843-04:002011-06-28T02:04:03.843-04:00Nix the canti&#39;s Make mine Disc readyNix the canti&#39;s Make mine Disc readyRaiynhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05008417835955777719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-8502469457849141862011-06-27T20:18:06.934-04:002011-06-27T20:18:06.934-04:00There anymore articles on the Rando? I really lik...There anymore articles on the Rando? I really like the one I built, but it still seems like hardly anyone has one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-62083534684347372042011-06-27T19:57:33.406-04:002011-06-27T19:57:33.406-04:00I&#39;d love a 650B pass hunter, too!
I can never ...I&#39;d love a 650B pass hunter, too!<br />I can never go back to skinny 32-35 tires, even for pavement. <br />I like the low trail geometry, but please make it for centerpulls or sidepulls rather than cantilevers. <br />There&#39;s a definite lack of production 650B frames for those of us who hate cantis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-37219301665439051132011-06-27T15:58:06.916-04:002011-06-27T15:58:06.916-04:00I like the comments about allowance for tires &gt;...I like the comments about allowance for tires &gt;32 w/fenders.<br /><br />Lugs are nice, but in the absence of other retro/connoisseur features (e.g, horizontal dropouts, metal headtube badge, chrome forks, etc) don&#39;t make much of a difference to me.robatsuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07641711964135698976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-15764577013029827932011-06-27T10:58:14.136-04:002011-06-27T10:58:14.136-04:00Sounds good. I&#39;m 6&#39;4 &amp; 250, and I&#39...Sounds good. I&#39;m 6&#39;4 &amp; 250, and I&#39;d like to see a 65-67cm frame with fender clearance for 35mm tires. Also like the idea of braze-on center-pulls.<br />While I&#39;m at it, I&#39;d be very interested in a 65cm low-trail polyvalent tourer with vertical dropouts and fender clearance for 42&#39;s, minimum. My ride to work includes 5 miles of sand/gravel farm road and 5.5 of pavement, and this is my idea of the all-road bike for this, GAP/C&amp;O, and KATY.Dananoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-56310231788767872432011-06-27T07:36:22.370-04:002011-06-27T07:36:22.370-04:00Sounds like a great idea! I&#39;d humbly like to m...Sounds like a great idea! I&#39;d humbly like to make a suggestion:<br /><br />I like <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/shortpants51/3104207420/" rel="nofollow">wishbone seatstays</a> on welded frames, and I think they go really well with cantis.Uncle Anklenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-34214415909891168542011-06-27T02:50:45.661-04:002011-06-27T02:50:45.661-04:00Hi
I have a Passhunter, it very nice. Lovely hand...Hi<br /><br />I have a Passhunter, it very nice. Lovely handling, maybe the seat tubes are little to thin or I am to heavy for the frame. Very nice tig welded, looks as fillet brazed, the frame is very light approx &lt; 1800 grams without a fork.<br /><br />Last three years I have riding all my Brevet on this bike. The only thing is I cant use bigger sprocket then 12 teeth in the last position, bigger sprocket touch the chain-stay, to tight. <br />I am using 9 speed Shimano (12-27), (12-32),(11-28),DA hubs and Ultegra mechs, Ultegra triple crankset (48-38-28). I have using GB Cypres (622*32), Challange P-R (622*29), and some Schwalbe Marathon Racer (622*28)<br /><br />Honjo fenders, VO racks, Vo GC Mk1 brakes, etc.<br /><br />Planning to use this bike on the PBP Randonnuer.<br /><br />I think it should be good bike in the VO range.<br /><br />Jan-Olov<br />SwedenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-14655893009140196152011-06-26T22:49:14.487-04:002011-06-26T22:49:14.487-04:00I really like the idea of a tig welded Pass Hunter...I really like the idea of a tig welded Pass Hunter. Some of my favorite rides are over steep, gravel roads. I like some of the photos I&#39;ve seen of Toei and Alps passhunters w/ flat bars.Missoula Floodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11111196170878184408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-89119407357155810802011-06-26T21:21:19.940-04:002011-06-26T21:21:19.940-04:00How about a double butted 650B mixte with braze on...How about a double butted 650B mixte with braze ons for lights and cantilever brakes. Something like the Soma Buena Vista but lugged and finely made. BTW was the fork on the last mixte frame you sold double butted? I have my eyes on one for sale on ebay!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-25831262627525972972011-06-26T20:53:17.113-04:002011-06-26T20:53:17.113-04:00And please..... bigger sizing this time?And please..... bigger sizing this time?z-manhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09572343329703287829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-86070007292034728172011-06-26T16:27:04.808-04:002011-06-26T16:27:04.808-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Natehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00500769861450004284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-24701862322287063152011-06-26T11:47:33.484-04:002011-06-26T11:47:33.484-04:00Your design summary is spot on--32 mm tires with r...Your design summary is spot on--32 mm tires with room for fenders, but not a tank built for fully loaded touring, and not a cross bike. I&#39;d prefer an extra 200 grams of weight and thicker walled tubes that are more dent resistant. 953 and/or lugs would push it out of my price range. I&#39;d love a 65 or 66 cm frame but would settle for a 63 cm.<br /><br />Maybe you can design a set of faux plastic chrome lugs to attach to the frame at the headtube to calm the luggites.Reynolds531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-25359591738856211842011-06-26T09:34:16.183-04:002011-06-26T09:34:16.183-04:00Another vote for a future mixte. I&#39;m not aware...Another vote for a future mixte. I&#39;m not aware of anyone else selling a 650b, low trail, horizontal drop-out mixte as a stock frameset. Soma &amp; Rivendell have some nice ones, but they don&#39;t have this combination of features. Mrs Dibbly is very jealous of my Alfine-11 Polyvalent.dwainedibblynoreply@blogger.com