You're accusing me of having a lousy sweep that I haven't even bothered to attempt in over a year, mainly because you aren't controlling your victim enough (as you would be with, say, an arm drag) and partly because it doesn't leave you with many options if you **** it up, as such not fitting into my overall game (I'm all about the options).

For the record, I actually have tried your setup. I'm having more success with the grab the shoulder variation (tried it again after reading your post) of the cross-collar than I used to (duh, I'm trying it more and getting better with it). Still suck with the palms up deep collar grab one though.

You're accusing me of having a lousy sweep that I haven't even bothered to attempt in over a year, mainly because you aren't controlling your victim enough (as you would be with, say, an arm drag) and partly because it doesn't leave you with many options if you **** it up, as such not fitting into my overall game (I'm all about the options).

Hence, I couldn't care less.

I like the scissor sweep "position" quite a bit. There's regular old scissor, reverse scissor, triangles (don't do those a whole lot. goes with having short tree trunks for legs), armdrag setups, lapel chokes (that I don't use much but probably should) . . .

Hung over, stuck in data migration hell (non-relational db to relational db) which needs to be completed and tested by friday. Slow is probably a good adjective for my thought processes at the moment. Fire bad, tree pretty.

Good to hear you're having success with the grab the shoulder choke variation.