"I'm not impressed with that streak. He was close to losing many times..." - Ivan on Rafa's clay court winning streak

"He's a little weird. He can play great or he can play horrible. He's spoiled..." - Ivan on Gasquet

"He is Andy Roddick, we are in the States, and if somebody says something bad about him, then it's a big boom. I'm sorry if he's expecting everybody's going to like him. He thinks he's the best, the greatest, the most beautiful. But that's not the case..." on Andy Roddick again

name_change

11-08-2006, 09:24 PM

well, normally, the sick would win because it's harder to play through pain.

blosson

11-08-2006, 09:26 PM

:secret: same for Ljubo, but Tangy and I need something to fall back on ;)

:lol:

Katastrophe

11-08-2006, 09:29 PM

Yep...:)

but why stop there....lets do a little segment I like to call called "Ivan on"

"I'm not impressed with that streak. He was close to losing many times..." - Ivan on Rafa's clay court winning streak

"He's a little weird. He can play great or he can play horrible. He's spoiled..." - Ivan on Gasquet

"He is Andy Roddick, we are in the States, and if somebody says something bad about him, then it's a big boom. I'm sorry if he's expecting everybody's going to like him. He thinks he's the best, the greatest, the most beautiful. But that's not the case..." on Andy Roddick again

Not exactly at a loss for words I see...:p

Sunny_Boy

11-08-2006, 11:29 PM

Being sick is alot easier than being injured, so I's say Ljubo

partygirl

11-08-2006, 11:41 PM

I wonder how bad this "hurt" ever really was...the point:
Andy is fine and the bitch is going down & not in the way he really, really wants to.:devil:

as far as the question, i would always pick the hurt over the sick.

disturb3d

11-08-2006, 11:49 PM

Can't they both lose.

Merton

11-09-2006, 01:55 AM

This is tough to predict, given that we have no indication on their current form. It is also the case that they should be similarly motivated to finish in the top-4 for the year. Andy in 3 in a nervous match with 2 breaks of serve for the entire match.

El Legenda

11-09-2006, 05:04 AM

My Offical pick. Ivan in 2
and you can quote it :wavey:

tangerine_dream

11-09-2006, 05:37 AM

Ivan will be sick of getting his ass kicked around by everyone and then his feelings will be hurt when the media ignores him again. :p

RonE

11-09-2006, 07:33 AM

I love Duck-Ljubo flamewars they are so much fun :devil:

To the question at hand- I think Ljubo could sneak a win but I wouldn't be surprised if Roddick comes out on top either. I just hope it is an entertaining match and not only because of the tennis itself :devil:

Action Jackson

11-09-2006, 07:36 AM

I hope they drill the ball at each other at the net.

aussie_fan

11-09-2006, 07:39 AM

I think the Sick will win in 3 tight sets.

RonE

11-09-2006, 07:50 AM

I hope they drill the ball at each other at the net.

May the karma of both Lendl and Muster be with them in this match :devil:

Action Jackson

11-09-2006, 07:56 AM

May the karma of both Lendl and Muster be with them in this match :devil:

It will be good for the game, though watching them try and dropshots will be funny, though I saw Ljubo outslice the PMK and that was funny.

But rip one at the feet, then the volley up at the net, then wham right at the chest.

mrserenawilliams

11-09-2006, 08:08 AM

hurt

Monteque

11-09-2006, 09:50 AM

the healthy one who'll win.
They better to retired because of sick and hurt.

tangerine_dream

11-09-2006, 09:11 PM

Ivan fans (all four of you), come in here and make your excuses for Ivan's loss to Roddick on Sunday. :wavey:

Deboogle!.

11-09-2006, 09:12 PM

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=90051
:p

tangerine_dream

11-09-2006, 09:14 PM

My thread is better. :angel:

But if the mods deem me unworthy, they may merge my thread with Jerry's silly sick poll. :p

edit

Har. My title was better, so there!

safinalium

11-09-2006, 09:19 PM

andy in 2. no chance for poor ljubo. ;)

enzogiovanni

11-09-2006, 09:23 PM

roddick against the Indoor King? Easy win for Ljubicic in 2 sets http://www.mundogasol.com/foro/124.gif

DrJules

11-09-2006, 09:27 PM

I hope they drill the ball at each other at the net.

Have Roddick or Ljubicic done something nasty to you at a tennis event because you sound slightly hostile.

DrJules

11-09-2006, 09:37 PM

Difficult to pick the winner of the serving greats; serving being the area in which both players excel. In terms of return of serve, baseline game and volleys they are both competent. However, it is possible that the match may have no service breaks.

Horatio Caine

11-09-2006, 09:48 PM

Ouch that's alittle harsh.

"Generally, I don't like him. He doesn't respect the other players. I'm just telling you the feeling of the people in the locker room. Every other player said to me, 'Good luck. Kick his ass." - Ivan

Does tennis benefit from this?

Ljubo's disillusioned...

I think Ljubo is the slight favourite for this match going on Roddick's worse service return.

The tennis will probably be dull...but it is an exciting match-up

Horatio Caine

11-09-2006, 09:51 PM

Ivan fans (all four of you), come in here and make your excuses for Ivan's loss to Roddick on Sunday. :wavey:

:haha:

There's more than 4...but those are the ones that are the most :retard:ed...the others just crawl out of the woodwork when he wins and vanish when he loses. :p

Horatio Caine

11-09-2006, 09:53 PM

Yep...:)

but why stop there....lets do a little segment I like to call called "Ivan on"

"I'm not impressed with that streak. He was close to losing many times..." - Ivan on Rafa's clay court winning streak

"He's a little weird. He can play great or he can play horrible. He's spoiled..." - Ivan on Gasquet

"He is Andy Roddick, we are in the States, and if somebody says something bad about him, then it's a big boom. I'm sorry if he's expecting everybody's going to like him. He thinks he's the best, the greatest, the most beautiful. But that's not the case..." on Andy Roddick again

I expected Deb and Partypants to give Andy their blessing. But 3 to 1 against Ljubicic????
There's only one explanation, crazy pills are being handed out like candy.

Deboogle!.

11-10-2006, 12:23 AM

HOLY CHRIST. Are we a crazy bunch on MTF or what.

I expected Deb and Partypants to give Andy their blessing. But 2 to 1 against Ljubicic????
There's only one explanation, crazy pills are being handed out like candy.WTF? Why did you bring my name up? I haven't said much of anything about this match, and I almost never ever predict Andy to win, so really, please leave me out of this and check your facts before you start making claims about people, thanks. :rolleyes:

Fergie

11-10-2006, 12:28 AM

Let's go Ivan! :rocker2:

Julio1974

11-10-2006, 12:31 AM

HOLY CHRIST. Are we a crazy bunch on MTF or what.

I expected Deb and Partypants to give Andy their blessing. But 3 to 1 against Ljubicic????
There's only one explanation, crazy pills are being handed out like candy.

Maybe some (and I include myself) are getting tired of the croat-tards.

~*BGT*~

11-10-2006, 12:35 AM

HOLY CHRIST. Are we a crazy bunch on MTF or what.

I expected Deb and Partypants to give Andy their blessing. But 3 to 1 against Ljubicic????
There's only one explanation, crazy pills are being handed out like candy.

Maybe because in 2 of his wins against Andy, Andy was injured and he retired in the other. He's only got one real win against him. :rolleyes:

El Legenda

11-10-2006, 12:49 AM

Maybe because in 2 of his wins against Andy, Andy was injured and he retired in the other. He's only got one real win against him. :rolleyes:

:yawn: and sunday the lose will be blamed on Roddick playing without a racquet :yawn:

Maybe I should have my own campaign: "If Ljubo makes the SF I leave MTF" :rolleyes:

RickDaStick

11-10-2006, 01:05 AM

If Andy Roddick wins the TMC, I never post on MTF again.

partygirl

11-10-2006, 01:07 AM

Partypants
:dance::lol::dance:
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Ivan you can do that but ducky has to stay:wavey::cool:

Snowwy

11-10-2006, 01:20 AM

Ljubicic in 3 but I expect this to be the closest of the 4 first round matchups.

scoobs

11-10-2006, 01:56 AM

If I thought some of the people on here were serious about leaving, I'd be busy right now with the candlewax and Voodoo for Dummies book.

As it is...meh.

~*BGT*~

11-10-2006, 03:10 AM

:yawn: and sunday the lose will be blamed on Roddick playing without a racquet :yawn:

The 'loss', you mean? No, it won't. Ljube's loss will be because he was outplayed... Or maybe Andy will kill Jimmy Connors and take his soul and play as he. :devil:

El Legenda

11-10-2006, 03:21 AM

The 'loss', you mean? No, it won't. Ljube's loss will be because he was outplayed... Or maybe Andy will kill Jimmy Connors and take his soul and play as he. :devil:

:yawn: i bet you wont be around sunday after the match...time to run and hide now :lol:

tangerine_dream

11-10-2006, 03:27 AM

HOLY CHRIST. Are we a crazy bunch on MTF or what.
I expected Deb and Partypants to give Andy their blessing. But 3 to 1 against Ljubicic????
There's only one explanation, crazy pills are being handed out like candy.
Deb didn't even vote in this poll and you're blaming it on her? I love how every time I behave badly Deb gets blamed for it. :lol: Debbles :hug:

Maybe some (and I include myself) are getting tired of the croat-tards.
The Looby-Duck wars are a nice diversion from the usual Fed-Rafa wars, aren't they? :dance:

well well, not holding up to your part of the deal :angel:
Did you fail the lie detector part of your citizenship test today? Because you've been spewing one fib after another all day today.

Tangy told me she swims with her shoes on :confused:
Another lie in your sig. Lies! And the lying liars who lie about them are all liars.

Deb didn't even vote in this poll and you're blaming it on her? I love how every time I behave badly Deb gets blamed for it. :lol: Debbles :hug:You could stop behaving badly :angel: :)

acoffeygirl

11-10-2006, 04:12 AM

Oh Deb....honestly, you know that is about as likely to happen as for GM to actually start making sense.

Deboogle!.

11-10-2006, 04:12 AM

Oh Deb....honestly, you know that is about as likely to happen as for GM to actually start being sane.I know :haha: But I can always suggest it anyway :p

tangerine_dream

11-10-2006, 04:41 AM

You could stop behaving badly :angel: :)
How boring. :p

Action Jackson

11-10-2006, 06:49 AM

Have Roddick or Ljubicic done something nasty to you at a tennis event because you sound slightly hostile.

What the hell are you on about? Read RonE's response and the tone might become clearer.

Deathless Mortal

11-10-2006, 11:05 AM

Ivan in 2.

ljubicic_

11-10-2006, 11:35 AM

Ivan, because Roddick isn't a bad player but he doesn't have the game to destroy the indoor king, Ljubicic is a very smart player and he know what he has to do to destroy Andy. and no i don't say that Ljubicic will winn because he's Croat, no i am realistic!

musefanatic

11-10-2006, 12:03 PM

I think Andy in a hard fought 3 with 2 tiebreaks.

Ivaniević

11-10-2006, 12:08 PM

Ivan has to win.
Otherwise, I can't see him in semifinals..

Deathless Mortal

11-10-2006, 12:18 PM

Ivan has to win.
Otherwise, I can't see him in semifinals..

Yeah, if Ivan loses, it will be the end. He can't beat Federer, maybe he can, but it would not be good if that match would be so important. This match is very important for Ljubo, and he really has to win!!!

beti

11-10-2006, 12:28 PM

i think he'll win.... ;)

mashamaniac

11-10-2006, 12:37 PM

i think there's a slight hopes for ivan and slightest doubt on andy's lose! andy is in a great form these days,so i guess it is % 70-30 winning percentages!:)

Blue Heart24

11-10-2006, 12:46 PM

I don't hate him,but he's getting on my nerves.

Dancing Hero

11-10-2006, 12:52 PM

I'll go for Roddick.

El Legenda

11-10-2006, 04:17 PM

i think there's a slight hopes for ivan and slightest doubt on andy's lose! andy is in a great form these days,so i guess it is % 70-30 winning percentages!:)

yeah amazing form, after getting hurt the last time he played and missed Paris :retard:

Fumus

11-10-2006, 04:25 PM

HOLY CHRIST. Are we a crazy bunch on MTF or what.

I expected Deb and Partypants to give Andy their blessing. But 3 to 1 against Ljubicic????
There's only one explanation, crazy pills are being handed out like candy.

haha, Deb being cocky about an Andy vs. anyone...good one. :o

Fumus

11-10-2006, 04:40 PM

yeah amazing form, after getting hurt the last time he played and missed Paris :retard:

Losses to Gonzalez and Robredo in QFs of the summer hc masters both guys he had winning records against.
1st round loss at the US Open to Felicano Lopez, and he got p0wned in straight sets :o :o :lol:
Had his ass handed to him by James Blake in Bangkok final, indoors and he had never lost to James before :haha:
3rd round loss to Murray in Mardrid, dominated...supposedly he's some kind of great indoor player.:o :o :o
No show in Paris. ;)

haha...and Ivan is in great form...

Andy in 3.

Horatio Caine

11-10-2006, 05:22 PM

Losses to Gonzalez and Robredo in QFs of the summer hc masters both guys he had winning records against.
1st round loss at the US Open to Felicano Lopez, and he got p0wned in straight sets :o :o :lol:
Had his ass handed to him by James Blake in Bangkok final, indoors and he had never lost to James before :haha:
3rd round loss to Murray in Mardrid, dominated...supposedly he's some kind of great indoor player.:o :o :o
No show in Paris. ;)

haha...and Ivan is in great form...

Andy in 3.

Well....out of those players who beat him there, the Lopez loss is the only one that is truly :retard: :retard: :retard:

I think you can make a case that the other players have a fairly good return game...Ivan is pretty much all serve and his groundies are relatively average. Put him against a decent returner and he is going to struggle. Roddick's return is pretty ugly though, and he doesn't know much about rallying...and even if he did make it to tiebreaks vs Baldy...I wouldn't give him the edge to win 2 of them based his current record. :shrug:

Sunset of Age

11-10-2006, 05:50 PM

Sick vs. Hurt.
Guess that will require three sets, for whomever.

Fumus

11-10-2006, 06:18 PM

Well....out of those players who beat him there, the Lopez loss is the only one that is truly :retard: :retard: :retard:

I think you can make a case that the other players have a fairly good return game...Ivan is pretty much all serve and his groundies are relatively average. Put him against a decent returner and he is going to struggle. Roddick's return is pretty ugly though, and he doesn't know much about rallying...and even if he did make it to tiebreaks vs Baldy...I wouldn't give him the edge to win 2 of them based his current record. :shrug:

If Ivan was really a top 10 player he wouldn't be losing 1st round at USO, or in finals against people he has never lost to. Did you watch any of these matches where he lost!? He played like shit, infact Ivan hasn't played well in quite sometime. Since Roland Garros Ivan has been in a slump and I think this slump will continue all the way until Ivan is out of the top 10 because he doesn't belong there. Ivan is a top 30 player that has been playing top 10 tennis, time for him to go back where he belongs. This summer he's played like his ranking should be...out of the 10 because he simply isn't as talented as the rest of the guys.

This match will be interesting because Roddick has been playing better tennis lately. Andy is back to playing his potenial and that's better that I have ever seen. All you have to is watch the Gasquet match in Vienna to see how truly confident and how much improved Andy is at the moment. Annnnyyways, like I said Andy in 3.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7Cnq7s8j8k

selyoink

11-10-2006, 06:20 PM

I'll say Ljubicic in three tiebreaks.

El Legenda

11-10-2006, 07:20 PM

Losses to Gonzalez and Robredo in QFs of the summer hc masters both guys he had winning records against.
1st round loss at the US Open to Felicano Lopez, and he got p0wned in straight sets :o :o :lol:
Had his ass handed to him by James Blake in Bangkok final, indoors and he had never lost to James before :haha:
3rd round loss to Murray in Mardrid, dominated...supposedly he's some kind of great indoor player.:o :o :o
No show in Paris. ;)

haha...and Ivan is in great form...

Andy in 3.

Roddick is 4-4 since the start of Sept. :wavey:

Pfloyd

11-10-2006, 07:36 PM

I'd Say Ivan in 3.

DrJules

11-10-2006, 08:01 PM

Ivan is a top 30 player that has been playing top 10 tennis, time for him to go back where he belongs. [/url]

Really?

I might agree for a player who sporadically moves into the top 10, but Ljubicic has spent over 50 weeks in a row in the top 10 including over 25 weeks in a row in the top 5.

A player who is not top 10 standard is unlikely to spend so long in the top 5.

Apart from Federer and to a lesser extent Nadal, I would not say his ability or talent is not that much different from the other players outside the top 2.

jcempire

11-10-2006, 08:47 PM

Jimmy go with Andy

hopefully into Final

Horatio Caine

11-10-2006, 09:28 PM

Ljubicic is a very smart player

I stopped reading after I saw that...sorry :o

doris_hdz

11-10-2006, 09:39 PM

Andy in 3

El Legenda

11-11-2006, 12:12 AM

Really?

I might agree for a player who sporadically moves into the top 10, but Ljubicic has spent over 50 weeks in a row in the top 10 including over 25 weeks in a row in the top 5.

A player who is not top 10 standard is unlikely to spend so long in the top 5.

Apart from Federer and to a lesser extent Nadal, I would not say his ability or talent is not that much different from the other players outside the top 2.

you forgot to add "owned" at the end :rolls:

Jimnik

11-11-2006, 12:27 AM

Really?

I might agree for a player who sporadically moves into the top 10, but Ljubicic has spent over 50 weeks in a row in the top 10 including over 25 weeks in a row in the top 5.

A player who is not top 10 standard is unlikely to spend so long in the top 5.

Apart from Federer and to a lesser extent Nadal, I would not say his ability or talent is not that much different from the other players outside the top 2.
Looks very similar to Shuettler's record.

tangerine_dream

11-11-2006, 05:36 AM

:awww:

http://i9.tinypic.com/3yrtovs.jpg

El Legenda

11-11-2006, 05:59 AM

:awww:

http://i9.tinypic.com/3yrtovs.jpg

:rolls: why are they standing in a living room? is that the locker room? :confused:

NATAS81

11-11-2006, 08:31 AM

:rolls: why are they standing in a living room? is that the locker room? :confused:
Getty - James Blake of the USA (L) chats with compatriot Andy Roddick (C) as Ivan Ljubicic of Croatia looks on during a portrait shoot on November 10, 2006 at a club in Shanghai, China.

Blue Heart24

11-11-2006, 10:27 AM

Really?

I might agree for a player who sporadically moves into the top 10, but Ljubicic has spent over 50 weeks in a row in the top 10 including over 25 weeks in a row in the top 5.

A player who is not top 10 standard is unlikely to spend so long in the top 5.

Apart from Federer and to a lesser extent Nadal, I would not say his ability or talent is not that much different from the other players outside the top 2.

:worship:

Horatio Caine

11-11-2006, 03:00 PM

Ljubo :haha:

He looks disinterested in most of the photos... :rolleyes:

JMG

11-11-2006, 08:03 PM

Good luck to Ljubicic! I hope he will beat him up!

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4332/violentfp0.gif

ljubicic_

11-11-2006, 09:13 PM

Ljubo :haha:

He looks disinterested in most of the photos... :rolleyes:

that doesn't suprise me a lot actually, i also would be very disinterested if i had to spend the time most with Andy an David:rolleyes:

bad gambler

11-11-2006, 10:15 PM

I. Ljubicic (CRO) to win 6-4 7-6 over A. Roddick (USA)

DrJules

11-11-2006, 10:28 PM

Expect Roddick to win 7-6, 7-6 in the battle of the servers. It will be interesting to see if either player contaminates the match with tennis.:lol: :lol: :lol: Or :eek: returns of serve.

Deboogle!.

11-11-2006, 10:29 PM

Expect Roddick to win 7-6, 7-6
have you seen andy's TB record lately? If it goes to TBs, Andy's not winning.

Havok

11-11-2006, 11:48 PM

Please win Andy. That is all.

Jimnik

11-12-2006, 04:15 AM

Expect Roddick to win 7-6, 7-6 in the battle of the servers. It will be interesting to see if either player contaminates the match with tennis.:lol: :lol: :lol: Or :eek: returns of serve.
I bet the result will be the exact opposite, with Ljubicic winning 2 TBs.

enzogiovanni

11-12-2006, 08:57 AM

who chokes in the tiebreaks?
2 match points saved with 2 aces...
all your theories are through the window

silverarrows

11-12-2006, 09:06 AM

Very tight indeed at third set at the moment. And in the 2nd set TB a while ago.

silverarrows

11-12-2006, 09:16 AM

Andy has broken Ivan's serve in the 3rd set. :cool:

General Suburbia

11-12-2006, 09:17 AM

He's up a break now. All he has to do is hold. Please hold.

silverarrows

11-12-2006, 09:20 AM

Andy's looking good at the moment. 4-1 in the 3rd.

Black Adam

11-12-2006, 09:21 AM

I am aliking what i am seeing...what about you george castanza :lol:

General Suburbia

11-12-2006, 09:23 AM

Unless something incredible happens, it looks like Ljubo's gonna pull a Nalby. 5-1 in the third.

El Legenda

11-12-2006, 09:23 AM

I am aliking what i am seeing...what about you george castanza :lol:

its RR format..nothing lost yet ;)

Black Adam

11-12-2006, 09:28 AM

its RR format..nothing lost yet ;)

Are sure your man can kick Dave and Roger;)

El Legenda

11-12-2006, 09:31 AM

Are sure your man can kick Dave and Roger;)

Nalbandian yes..easy and its always good match vs Roger. but he really needs to win one...Andy will lose to both Roger and David and David will lose to Ivan...3guys with 1-2 record.

Bilbo

11-12-2006, 09:41 AM

at least MTF's predictions are far more precise than those at WTAworld :lol: they suck over there