Nice vid. And well done getting those built in time. To build the fleet I need 35mil points (3 rad armours and a siege CIC). Given I'm on 4.7mil, and my 2 90% completed buccs might as well be parked up - that's a long way away using IC in 60's. Unfortunately my bucc build isn't perfect, but there is no room for error in the current setup - being slightly off makes the targets unplayable.Good luck to you though - I'm sure if I do get those built in time for the next raid kixeye will fundamentally change something and I'll be back to square one but no other path appears open.

So what does this say about the Bucc's effectiveness if as the auto hull people are getting hours of damage autoing while the skill hull can auto for free?

It's kixeye's typical design, completely f***ed up as usual. It's just like the current garrison cycle, where a stacked fleet of 2 zelos and 3 monos can cruise through a 115 with little to low damage, while IBs get completely wrecked.

So what does this say about the Bucc's effectiveness if as the auto hull people are getting hours of damage autoing while the skill hull can auto for free?

You have to take into consideration that we got the hydra a few weeks later then the buc and were also able to rank the bucs in vxp weekend... This 3 ship fleet is technically the same as a 5 ship buc fleet in its target.... each is balanced to the current progression of the hulls that we have.

"Are we friends? Or are we foes? That kind of thing you decide for yourselves! "

The "auto" hull always sucks and is no guarantee to actually be able to auto targets. Empyrean sucked. Sky sucked. Hunter sucked. Bucc sucks. The "skill" hull is more tedious and time consuming to do targets but is always the better choice.

The "auto" hull always sucks and is no guarantee to actually be able to auto targets. Empyrean sucked. Sky sucked. Hunter sucked. Bucc sucks. The "skill" hull is more tedious and time consuming to do targets but is always the better choice.

wrong skys are grate better than phos

and as for this raids u have to win 35 million points to build this fleet to auto so having to refit during raids so spend spend spend and u can auto for free what a joke

Strange.. my one Hydra keeps getting stuck on a structure conflict at the entrance in HYDRA LAIR.. .. so I cant just auto it but have to control it.. and I get 4 coins damage when controlling and 2 coin damage on auto.. LOL..

Does any others have problems with fleets getting stuck on structure conflict in the HYDRA LAIR

why not having a dedicated cm ship? That would safe a specials slot for the ships with guns?

the flag will be as it will be having a different cic. so the guns will have a lower range. the flag wont fire with the other 4 so i am making that the countermeasures ship. but for now the antis are on the individual ones there as the ships split off and do thier own thing on auto. so at least they have some anti cover.

why not having a dedicated cm ship? That would safe a specials slot for the ships with guns?

the flag will be as it will be having a different cic. so the guns will have a lower range. the flag wont fire with the other 4 so i am making that the countermeasures ship. but for now the antis are on the individual ones there as the ships split off and do thier own thing on auto. so at least they have some anti cover.

knowing that you will make the flag a cm ship with a different range, im curious how you would build it...any ideas yet?

why not having a dedicated cm ship? That would safe a specials slot for the ships with guns?

the flag will be as it will be having a different cic. so the guns will have a lower range. the flag wont fire with the other 4 so i am making that the countermeasures ship. but for now the antis are on the individual ones there as the ships split off and do thier own thing on auto. so at least they have some anti cover.

knowing that you will make the flag a cm ship with a different range, im curious how you would build it...any ideas yet?

yes of course i have. its saved in my ally page i posted this tuesday.

in case you are wondering.. the 1 gale is in case i ever decide to enter a DUBand the CiC is the mercy one btw