News & Current EventsDiscuss Coming soon - goverment to tax your car usage by the mile at the General Forum; Originally Posted by lurch907
Right, because they only paid $31,000,000,000 in federal taxes in 2013, while operating on a profit ...

Right, because they only paid $31,000,000,000 in federal taxes in 2013, while operating on a profit margin of less than 10%.

I'm talking about actual stupid stuff, not delusional salty stuff.

Geeze, I wanna cry over how much exxon pays in taxes, not. I'd feel a little better though if they gave military members a break at the gas pump. Maybe a discount for all servicemen who fought in the middle east protecting exxon's oil interests. This would include the Navy guys that kept the shipping lanes safe for their tankers. Maybe a sliding scale. 10% discount at the pump for all vets, but 15% if wounded. If they died, 25% discount to their spouses.

I'm not altogether against a newer way to pay for road construction and repair, which was the intent of the original law. As it stands now, alternative fuels get a pass on paying for road usage along with direct subsidies.

Not sure about mileage tax, however. I just don't like giving big brother too much information.

Perhaps gas taxes should be eliminated altogether and replaced with an all inclusive tax, say, a tire tax, which would make higher road users, who would use up tires at a greater rate, and alternative fuel users, which now pay nothing, contribute.

A vehicle owner already pays a number of taxes, not only at the pump.

I agree about giving too much information to the g'ment. After all, with their want to be able to access cell phone data on a whim, the logical step if they are monitoring mileage, would be to also monitor where you go, if they are so inclined.

The county I live in has a wheel tax (included when registering or renewing) While earmarked for local expenses, I wouldn't be completely against paying a couple dollars more for it to include infrastructure, as long as it was actually spent on that.

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Morons are already putting such monitoring devices in their car under the guise of being able to save on insurance. Government will uses these tards to pave the way for monitoring people's mileage and taxing it.

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Morons are already putting such monitoring devices in their car under the guise of being able to save on insurance. Government will uses these tards to pave the way for monitoring people's mileage and taxing it.

The only way this tax can be imposed is if cars come with automated tracking devices and that's still in the distant future. The "argument" behind it is that electric cars and hybrids, that use the roads, aren't being taxed the same as a vehicle that uses gasoline that is taxed. It's basically an "anti-environment" legislative argument hiding under the covers.

Of course the government could increase fuel tax revenues by simply making them a percentage linking them to the retail price of fuel or crude oil prices. This would actually be a good time to do it because it could be a "replacement" tax based upon generating the same revenue when gas prices are low and would increase the tax revenue when gas prices go up (and eventually they will).

One thing we do know is that the gas tax hasn't been enough to fund the highway system. In 2007, for example, the Congress authorized $40 billion in highway spending but the federal government only received $30 billion in revenue to fund the expenditures. We would have to assume that the other $10 billion was funded as deficit spending adding to the national debt.

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The only way this tax can be imposed is if cars come with automated tracking devices and that's still in the distant future. The "argument" behind it is that electric cars and hybrids, that use the roads, aren't being taxed the same as a vehicle that uses gasoline that is taxed. It's basically an "anti-environment" legislative argument hiding under the covers.

Of course the government could increase fuel tax revenues by simply making them a percentage linking them to the retail price of fuel or crude oil prices. This would actually be a good time to do it because it could be a "replacement" tax based upon generating the same revenue when gas prices are low and would increase the tax revenue when gas prices go up (and eventually they will).

One thing we do know is that the gas tax hasn't been enough to fund the highway system. In 2007, for example, the Congress authorized $40 billion in highway spending but the federal government only received $30 billion in revenue to fund the expenditures. We would have to assume that the other $10 billion was funded as deficit spending adding to the national debt.

Automated tracking devices have been in use for years. Nothing to invent.

You miss the point. The gasoline tax is self destructing. A 440 6 pack got around 8-10 GPM, and a new smaller car gets over 30. Add to that the alternative fuels, Electric, alcohol, etc, and many are using roads for free while others pick up the slack. Something new has to be devised.

If the government was half as efficient at figuring out ways to avoid reckless spending as they are at figuring out ways to create new taxes we'd all see a decrease in taxes.

Believe me, their idea to tax vehicle mileage isn't a replacement to existing gasoline taxes, it is an addition to them.

The United States federal excise tax on gasoline is 18.4 cents per gallon (cpg) and 24.4 cents per gallon (cpg) for diesel fuel. State taxes vary.
The oil companies don't make 18.4 cents profit on a gallon of gas.