o2 - Difference between WiFi and Web

I'm looking to upgrade my phone contract this afternoon and will be attempting to find a tariff that will let me get an N95 8GB free or at least very cheap. I figured it was probably worth getting some kind of net connection for it though (my current contract doesn't have any data transfer allowance at all) and noticed that they have these Bolt-on things. So, a few questions:

a) The first bolt-on is free right (as far as I can make out on the o2 website)? (With additional ones costing £7.50 extra a month)

b) What is the difference between 'Unlimited Wi-Fi' and 'Unlimited Web' bolt-ons and what are the pros and cons for each? I'd like to be able to access email and google and who knows, maybe facebook and flickr and the like. (The N series have built in Flickr stuff, right?) - I think probably web is the one I'm after, so I can access the stuff anywhere, but are there things like speed differences to take into account as well?

c) I heard that you can be charged for using the GPS? Is that right? How does that work exactly?

I've just tried the Flickr stuff on the N95, and tbh I'm not that impressed. It gives you the impression you can select the file from your gallery to upload, but that's not the case. All it does is just give you a shortcut to the Flickr site, which tbh you can do with a fucking bookmark.

brokenkey wrote:
Depends on whether you get the Unlimited Web pack or not, and also if you side-load the maps or download them over the air. Its standard data charging, not different data charging.

Licence is £40 per year or £6 per month

Ok, so Unlimited Web should negate any charges for GPS?
Is there always a license, or only if you want voice navigation?
Side-loading the maps? Is that downloading on your PC and shifting them across to the phone?

brokenkey wrote:
Depends on whether you get the Unlimited Web pack or not, and also if you side-load the maps or download them over the air. Its standard data charging, not different data charging.

Licence is £40 per year or £6 per month

Ok, so Unlimited Web should negate any charges for GPS?
Is there always a license, or only if you want voice navigation?
Side-loading the maps? Is that downloading on your PC and shifting them across to the phone?

I shall report back with details of my conquest (to get a new phone and decent contract). Which actually brings me onto another question (bear with me!). Since there's no real 'new' mobile customers, obviously the providers are fighting like crazy men to keep hold of their current ones. I understand you can get some decent deals by threatening to leave (I've done it myself), but with this new fad at pushing 18 month contracts - has anyone tried pushing for them to bring it back down to 12 months and still getting a decent deal?

Just say "I'm not signing up for an 18 month contract, give me the same price but for 12 months or I'll go with [insert competitor here]". One 12 month contract, at reasonable (well, as reasonable as possible) prices.

Well, it's all ordered and everything. Didn't manage to get them to budge on the 18month thing (I should have pushed harder! ), but it's a decent deal (and considerably better than my current one) so it's no biggy to pay £10 a month more for an extra 400 minutes and 900 texts! N95 with unlimited web winging it's way to me!

Yeah, I've had a look. It does seem rather a limited definition of 'unlimited', but I'm sure I'll manage. I'm actually looking at a way to save some money on the contract - anyone know how easy it is and how much it costs to unlock a simlocked N95?

I know o2 don't lock phones, but as a money-saving exercise, I'm thinking of sourcing the phone from elsewhere, sending back the one they're sending me, getting the £100 credit for not taking a new phone and sticking with a cheaper tariff. Anyone know a good place to source cheap (legal ) mobiles? Taking a look at eBay at the mo...

reality_cheque wrote:
I've just tried the Flickr stuff on the N95, and tbh I'm not that impressed. It gives you the impression you can select the file from your gallery to upload, but that's not the case. All it does is just give you a shortcut to the Flickr site, which tbh you can do with a fucking bookmark.

Actually, if you grab the Share Online application (unless you've got it already installed) you can directly upload your photos from your gallery to Flickr or Vox (whatever that is). It's great!

Really liking the phone so far - anyone know where i can get a decent screen protector from? Will o2 stores stock them?

Finally replaced my nearly 4 year old phone with a new Nokia 5800 on Pay Monthly with O2, and I was interested in getting the unlimited web browsing bolt on, worth it? I wouldn't use it excessively, just for some browsing from time to time, and maybe some of the apps like Facebook, iPlayer and YouTube, would it suit those needs fine?

Also, as I understand it I just need to text WEB to an O2 number to activate it, but I got my phone via Dial-A-Phone with half-price line rental, and I was wondering if anyone knew how it'd affect that? I'd assume it wouldn't have any effect apart from adding an additional £7.50 a month for the web, that right?

One more thing, why do they charge seperately for Web and Wi-Fi usage? It's just a pity that if I wanted to connect to, say, my router, it'd cost extra =/

Cracking phone though, such a difference from my old phone, it's ridiculous really!