Too Bad Baker

The Heisman Memorial Trophy (usually known colloquially as the Heisman Trophy or The Heisman), is awarded annually to the most outstanding player in college football in the United States whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity.

@nuleafjhawk The heisman has always bugged me because it’s usually not the best player in college football, it’s the best QB, RB or in some cases the best receiver or rarely defensive player. Pretty sure no defensive lineman or linebacker or offensive lineman or even fullback has won the thing.

It’s always interesting to note that when RB’s and QB’s rack up impressive stats it’s only because of the offensive linemen. It’s why Ron Dayne remains my favorite college player because after gaining 300 yards or whatever he’d be interviewed and he’d always tell the interviewer to go talk to the offensive linemen because they were the ones who made it possible.

As for Mayfield, I haven’t followed OU too closely to know what the issues are with him, but I’ll read your link and find out.

Winston and Manzel got it, obviously class has little to with these days unfortunately. It goes to the best player that comes from a high profile school. Honestly I thought the Klein kid from KSU should’ve won it a few years back.

@wissox Baker’s incident was the final one of the 3 moments in the game. The handshake was first, nothing about Mayfield provoking Kansas players ahead of time to warrant the any. Defense’s cheap shot was the next incident, and then Baker grabbing his junk and cursing at KU came last.

@wissox Charles Woodson in 1997 seems to be the only primarily defensive player to win. He was a CB, but even then he occasionally played at WR and also returned punts. (He beat Peyton for the Award. Go Meeeeeechigan!)

But I am shocked you think no fullback has won. Perhaps a Badger before Ron Dane? Two others did, too, the last being Steve Owens in 1969.