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Just read Vol.16, Ch.3 and there was something that piqued my interest.

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30 allubons..... Saito stayed silent to conserve power for calculations inside his head. That's almost about 10,000 square metres of land! Since ancient times, in the modern day Japan, how many people are able to own such a large piece of land.

10000 square metres should be 100x100 metre, to be honest it doesn't sound like much, especially since there is a mansion. How does such a small place make 12000 ecu annually? Or should it have been square kilometres?

Just read Vol.16, Ch.3 and there was something that piqued my interest.

10000 square metres should be 100x100 metre, to be honest it doesn't sound like much, especially since there is a mansion. How does such a small place make 12000 ecu annually? Or should it have been square kilometres?

It's not a lot. In a Korean translation it was a bit ambiguous, but I think it said 10 km x 10 km (100 km2). It's probably not 10000 km2 since that's way larger than a city.

On another note, a lot of these translations aren't directly from the Japanese original. From what I can tell, they're being translated from the Chinese translation.

It's not a lot. In a Korean translation it was a bit ambiguous, but I think it said 10 km x 10 km (100 km2). It's probably not 10000 km2 since that's way larger than a city.

On another note, a lot of these translations aren't directly from the Japanese original. From what I can tell, they're being translated from the Chinese translation.

This is really going to depend on where you come from for what you consider to be a "bit" of land. If it is 100km x 100km this still wouldn't be a "lot" of land for someone to be in charge of. While it might be bigger than a city (again depending on where you are from), it can also be smaller than a county. And with the exception of some of the smallest states in the US, it is FAR smaller than a state. As I'm American, 100x100km is roughly 62x62mi, and when I've driven cross-country it normally takes ~300-500mi to travel from one side of a state to another.

Another thing to consider is that we're talking about wine-growing (well, one doesn't "grow" wine, they grow the grapes and turn them into wine). So you're going to need a decent amount of land for that. 10x10km you can walk from one side to the other in 2-3 hours tops (and even faster if someone is travelling by horse) and I doubt it could accomodate the farms needed to raise 12k ECU a year.

So I think 100km x 100km could still be a reasonably "small" amount of land for one to basically be a lord over (even if it is a huge amount of land for us peasants to think about owning). Of course this could also be the American in me skewing my view since the US is such a large country and has tons of land that 100x100km doesn't seem "that" large to be a lord over.

This is really going to depend on where you come from for what you consider to be a "bit" of land. If it is 100km x 100km this still wouldn't be a "lot" of land for someone to be in charge of. While it might be bigger than a city (again depending on where you are from), it can also be smaller than a county. And with the exception of some of the smallest states in the US, it is FAR smaller than a state. As I'm American, 100x100km is roughly 62x62mi, and when I've driven cross-country it normally takes ~300-500mi to travel from one side of a state to another.

Another thing to consider is that we're talking about wine-growing (well, one doesn't "grow" wine, they grow the grapes and turn them into wine). So you're going to need a decent amount of land for that. 10x10km you can walk from one side to the other in 2-3 hours tops (and even faster if someone is travelling by horse) and I doubt it could accomodate the farms needed to raise 12k ECU a year.

So I think 100km x 100km could still be a reasonably "small" amount of land for one to basically be a lord over (even if it is a huge amount of land for us peasants to think about owning). Of course this could also be the American in me skewing my view since the US is such a large country and has tons of land that 100x100km doesn't seem "that" large to be a lord over.

Well, Belgium is 30,528 km2 and the Netherlands is 41,528 km2. Since Tristain is based on those two countries, 10,000 km2 would amount to about one-seventh of the entire country. That is not a small piece of land, especially since Saito isn't a highly ranked noble (unlike Louise's father).

By the way, do we actually know if Jessica and Scarron are descended from the pilot? We only know that they're related to Siesta, but how do we know if it's Siesta's mother side or father side that's descended from the pilot?

Hmm, this thread appears to be dead. Regardless, I want to throw in my 2 cents. In vol 18 during that near sex scene, I assumed it was just going to be a comedic scene and nothing serious since I didn't see summaries elaborating it. Now that I was able to read through it in Chinese, it was one of the sweetest scenes in my opinion. It is a shame there are no translations for it yet, although I might consider translating that one chapter. I'm such a terrible reader since I only read scenes like these and skip the rest lol.

Still quite barren considering translations for this series are still ongoing. Maybe the ZnT days are over? Or people are just content with summaries? Perhaps there will be comeback for this series after Vol21 comes put, whenever that is. Hopefully it will be next year.

Still quite barren considering translations for this series are still ongoing. Maybe the ZnT days are over? Or people are just content with summaries? Perhaps there will be comeback for this series after Vol21 comes put, whenever that is. Hopefully it will be next year.

I sometimes think about going back to translating for Baka-Tsuki, but I eventually come to the conclusion that I am too busy with other stuff. School, personal projects, video games. (-_-; )

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