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like most of the people I was intersted in hacking at first but now I am more intrested in phreaking .

so my question is :what does it take to be a phreaker ? I am not asking you to teach me how or something ! I am only asking what is the skills that a phreaker should have ? he should know about electronics and how to create circules ? and things like that.

thanks for your time!

linuX files - The Source Is Out There.

A computer is just like an air condishiner, it's working as long as the windows aren't opend!

Gizmo, do you say that because flaws don't exist like they used to, so, we're limited to lineman's sets?

sorcerer, it's always good to know how to hide your phone number and get free calls, and generally exploit the phone system in ways it wasn't intended to be used. it doesn't seem like much has changed from back in the old days, just that we can't use flaws in their routing systems (that I'm aware of) using simple electronics...or whistles.

I would think that would be considered hacking more than anything since everything is controlled by computers these days.

heh, I'D have to say on this topic, no comment. As the phreaking scene with exclusion of a few old school out there is dieing or dead imo. Even with those still "trying" to keep it alive. There's stuff to do, it's just wow, exploit, packet wifi hack, light phreak, steal software, bla bla bla . This is not, what it was. We all know that, those who were there.

But like giz, on the taxing stuff bro, heh, might wanna read the taxing Internet news I posted. It's scary:| ...real scary. The more control a government has, the closer they reach to a dictatorship. You can quote me on that:) Look at that kid that got SS on his [censored] for draws of bush, I mean come ON! He was even in Washington the State, not DC. The SS is doing [censored] out of their jurisdiction, which is, the president, and saying it is in regard to national security.

What's next. Hacker's, and Phreakers because their smart are now a national security threat. So while I'm buttering my toast they can break in on me for something I did years ago that they tested for my DNA that they pulled from a Mat outside my house? Yea...our government CAN, and will do that I'd imagine for gain. But have they, or will they? *shrug*...this applies to us all I think. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Freakin, I used to not believe in that, esp back when I was a teen or young teen I believed in the h/p/v/a/c spirit. Which died after 2000.:| How it used to be.

Can it ever be the same again?

"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!Beware the Jubjub bird, and shunThe frumious Bandersnatch!"

still there yep Cham, they are sometimes harder, and easier. Imo in a couple years it will be easier. Because things are a changing, like they always have. Hot to cold, cold to Hot. They will always be there. Nothing is inaccessible or uncrackable, nothing is unhackable with your morals/ethics in line, and you can phreak anything you want to learn & to expand possibilities. Finding something is the easy part, learning how it works can be easy or hard, depending on who you are, what you know, and how you learn.

"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!Beware the Jubjub bird, and shunThe frumious Bandersnatch!"

weeve is right. the comunity is dying. both phreaking and hacking have become somthing that is in my mind a disaster.. especialy hacking. now days any kid with a computer can d-load a program and start "hacking" without knowing the slightest bit of what he is doing. and as for what skills you need go with giz on this one.

sorry i posted twice in a row but the best advice i have for Sorc. is read up on the phone networks and systems and read ALOT learn how everything works then just look for the "Holes" or flaws in the system and figure out how to exploit them

hey gizmo, whats up man? im natas. so nynexphreak is still around??? does he hang out on these forums or do u talk to him often? i wanted to talk to him and discuss some stuff about blueboxings current state sometime. hes a real smart guy. later.

hackers, and phreaks will always be out there, most are my age, just get a buzz off of looking at at&t from the inside. sigh its the people that corrupt systems with their "gear" that have feds busting down doors at 3 in the morning arreasting you for some obsence fed charge, because you could of possibly have done something really bad...

a friend will bail you out of jail, but a good friend will be in jail with you saying how sweet last night was.

Although I'm not that old (14), After reading a few days worth of phreaking stories and a few other phreaking documents i would just like to say, phone companies have changed around their systems a lot, but the main reason that fewer holes have been discovered and exploited is not because the phone companies are just that good, its because all these beginning phreakers do not take their time to search for documents explaining how things work, they just skim through or search for boxes that have already been made, make them, and use them, without even trying to understand how these boxes and exploits work, or trying to find or build new exploits and boxes.

As for what it takes to be a phreaker, i believe it takes time, patience, and an exceeding desire to learn.

Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is thatof judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like.My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will neverforgive me for.

Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is thatof judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like.My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will neverforgive me for.

I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto.

+++The Mentor+++ ^ | | ^ ^ ^Jesus this is old. That was writen in the 80's I belive.

Yes, i know. I have found it (and the rest of it) on numerous sites and documents. Thought it would be a good quote to put down there, and as long as the UGN staff doesn't disapprove of it, i will keep it there.

Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is thatof judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like.My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will neverforgive me for.