All the comments I've read regarding this is that they are basically giving away the best part and charging for the weakest parts.

honestly, i am happy about thati have WoW if i want an endgame grindthe fun in SWTOR for me is the leveling and personal story

Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPSAmirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego. Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.Sagara:You see, you need to *spread* the bun before you insert the hot dog.

After messing around for a few hours as a BH all I can say is wow. Really wish I would have picked it up back when friends were still playing.

The story and dialogue options make the experience so much more immersive and a lot of the quests and their particular objectives help to this end as well. The quests feel meaningful to the story, sure there are a few kill X or gather Y but there are far more quests that have a uniqueness about them.

It seems like a wonderful marriage of WoW and KotOR and the combat system feels so much more fluid and rewarding than WoWs.

Just some initial impressions but they definitely hit the nail on the head for leveling, at least so far. Shame they couldn't get the end game down at launch, you would think that they would have known better with all of the other games that fell flat because of lack of end game content/polish.

TL;DR If you haven't already... TRY IT! It's free and MoP isn't out for another month and a half.

Edit: Oh... and Explosive Dart on standard enemies has got to be the best thing ever.

there is free trial currently, and next month all leveling content will be free (well planets are, flash points -dungeons- are locked into micro trans)

Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPSAmirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego. Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.Sagara:You see, you need to *spread* the bun before you insert the hot dog.

Gab wrote:It seems like a wonderful marriage of WoW and KotOR and the combat system feels so much more fluid and rewarding than WoWs.

Everyone I know who has played has said the exact opposite about the combat.

honestly i have to agree with thisdue to each spell/ability having a set animation, the combat make look nicer, but it seems to be slower and for someone who raids in wow and is used to that faster combat....

still fun to have a flamethrower on your wrist, or shock someone with force lightning, but its not quite as smooth as WoW combat is from my point of view

Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPSAmirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego. Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.Sagara:You see, you need to *spread* the bun before you insert the hot dog.

Who knows, maybe it's because 6 of 7 abilities that I currently have are instant cast. Doesn't feel like your typical ranged DPS, I can run and gun instead of standing around spamming 2-3 second casts. Seems much more action oriented... Also just the overall visual effect since many of the attack's animations last half the gcd or longer.

Mechanically speaking I guess it's too early for me to tell, optimum rotations at max level against mobs that live longer than 10 seconds I'm sure are a different beast. But just leveling everything seems much faster, more fluid and more engaging.

it depends alot on what class/advanced class you are tooas a trooper vanguard/bounty hunter power tech, most of the abilities are instant or nearly so

as a sith inquis (which i havent leveled again yet, played on in teh beta) it was a little slower, but they are more of the typical caster class

Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPSAmirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego. Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.Sagara:You see, you need to *spread* the bun before you insert the hot dog.

I played a bit a couple weeks ago and noticed that they changed several of the animations for abilities that were not as balanced on both sides, such as mortar volley vs death from above for troopers and bounty hunters. Mortar volley fires WAY faster now. They also changed an ability that consulars had, I forget what it is called but its where they lift a chunk of something out of the ground and smack you with it. It used to slowly rise next to the consular and fly towards its target but now it quickly rises near the target and smacks him, essentially making it equal to the instant hit attack of their sith counterpart, which again I have no idea what its mirror is.

I'd like to see new content, but I'm also set to be heading out on deployment in October, with about a month and a half of training leading up to it so meh. I'd also like them to clean up the Juggernaut tank rotation. You have to stack sunders, keep rage going, use your heavy strike when sunders are up, Force Scream and Retaliation on cooldown for survivability, and that's not including Leap, Saber Throw, Push, and your stuns and such. It makes for very full bars. I haven't noticed anywhere near the clutter on my Powertech or my Assassin.

Gracerath wrote:They also changed an ability that consulars had, I forget what it is called but its where they lift a chunk of something out of the ground and smack you with it. It used to slowly rise next to the consular and fly towards its target but now it quickly rises near the target and smacks him, essentially making it equal to the instant hit attack of their sith counterpart, which again I have no idea what its mirror is.

You're referring to Force Projection, and Shock, IIRC. They sped up the Consular one as it had a rather bad delay compared to the Inquisitor version. Now they're equal, except that animations Empire side are MUCH cooler. Choke is much more awesome than the Knight equivalent. And Scream is better than the slash Jedi do. Lightning trumps rocks 10 times out of 10. And Death from Above is probably the best effect in game. The only exception comesfrom the Smuggler over the Agent. Kicking someone in the nuts is much cooler as a Smuggler than an Agent, and the shotgun to the back of the head is a bit cooler than stabbing someone in the back.

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Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPSAmirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego. Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.Sagara:You see, you need to *spread* the bun before you insert the hot dog.

No matter how many times I look at one and think it would be a fantastic idea with how many MMO's and games I play, I can never pull the trigger on an expensive mouse like that. Which is silly considering the amount of money I spend on other computer related bullshit.

Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPSAmirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego. Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.Sagara:You see, you need to *spread* the bun before you insert the hot dog.

Arnock wrote:So I reactivated my account after a several month hiatus, only to find that all of my characters have had a server transfer, and most of them require re-names. Including my inquisitor named Ximenez.

Arnock wrote:So I reactivated my account after a several month hiatus, only to find that all of my characters have had a server transfer, and most of them require re-names. Including my inquisitor named Ximenez.

iMad.

So... was he a Spanish Inquisitor?

I guarantee you, noone would have expected me.

On a slightly related note, is anyone around here still playing swtor?

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Courage not of this earth in your eyesFaith from far beyond lies deep inside

not currently, but i plan to when it goes F2Pi want to finish my BH story

Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPSAmirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego. Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.Sagara:You see, you need to *spread* the bun before you insert the hot dog.