Presented by Phil Hinton with Steve Withers, Mark Botwright and Ed Selley
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Spot on conclusions regarding the OLEDs. Thanks for this. Also, great discussion about colour accuracy, motion and banding. It's nice to hear so much common sense. Given this, my recommendation is always to go and look at the TVs in the flesh and see them with your own eyes.

Exciting developments on Dolby Vision, and thanks for the message to Kuro owners. "It's time to let go".

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The Xbox One X now vents from the sides rather than the top like the Xbox One S (so it can be stacked), that's why you can't see any vents in the press shots. It also uses a vapour cooling system so is unlikely to overheat when running a UHD Blu-Ray, but possibly get a little hot under heavy load while gaming.

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The Xbox One X now vents from the sides rather than the top like the Xbox One S (so it can be stacked), that's why you can't see any vents in the press shots. It also uses a vapour cooling system so is unlikely to overheat when running a UHD Blu-Ray, but possibly get a little hot under heavy load while gaming.

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Yeah, easy to find this stuff out if you do a bit of research

It pulls air in from the sides and vents it out the back.

The power supply is built into the console, no external power brick

Each Xbox One X is calibrated at the factory so that all the components are optimised for the best energy profile and to match the "Scorpio engine"

It supports Dolby Atmos (since they were talking about using it as a media device)

I've used BC a few times and I'm assuming quite a few others do as an Xbox 360 (Call of Duty: Black Ops II) title rocketed up the sales charts recently when it was made available on BC for the Xbox One.

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I have never seen any rainbow effect on my Kuro, but I have seen banding, dirty screen and very now and again the buzzing is noticeable. However, these issues are only apparent every now and again so have never bothered me. I'm guessing the same would be true of OLED, but I'd like to think in 10 years tech had moved on!

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Was very interesting reading the B7 review last week, it has certainly made me consider it and not just the A1 or EZ952 - (looking forward to that review this week)

Steve, I know you're flat out, but will you be adding comments on DV compared to HDR 10 in the B7 review now the discs arrived (or separate thread) to see if Panny have made a poor decision? It's difficult to tell so far as some A1 users with DV say there wasn't too much difference (as the A1 seems to have its own dynamic HDR10 on the go) while others have said there is a big difference (and they may have low to mid range models with poorer tone mapping). Assuming it's as easy as connecting 2 players to same tv, one with DV and flick between the sources to see what difference it makes on a panel that supports it, then a normal side by side comparison for panels that do not?

While I was holding out for the 952, and trying not to tick box...box tick, tick tock (or was that LGD talk for 2017-18), I'm starting to side with LG/Sony....

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In relation to the Le Mans discussion, those of you who watched may have seen this advertised during commercial breaks, but if not, then I highly recommend this new series on Amazon Prime Instant Video. 6 part documentary on the 2015 race, with very interesting behind the scenes looks at the five LMP1 teams competing that year (Porsche, Audi, Toyota, Nissan and Rebellion):

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In relation to the Le Mans discussion, those of you who watched may have seen this advertised during commercial breaks, but if not, then I highly recommend this new series on Amazon Prime Instant Video. 6 part documentary on the 2015 race, with very interesting behind the scenes looks at the five LMP1 teams competing that year (Porsche, Audi, Toyota, Nissan and Rebellion):

Le Mans: Racing is Everything

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What the advert broadcast every commercial break?!! Just started to watch. Looks great in 4K HDR, however the female voiceover is very grating. I take it it's a deliberate choice, but the computer racing game style they've used is bleh!

Have to agree with Phil, the Ullapool-Lochinver road is ace. My family have been going to Lochinver and Stoer just above it for generations. Sweeping bends that you can see any on-coming traffic, that means you can......oh wait, ex-copper......means you can drive on the left only and never cross over the lanes. Good pie shop in Lochinver too. But I bet Phil went here? Peet's Restaurant | Lochinver Restaurants | Top Quality Food

anyway great podcast, you've been missed greatly. Might have to consider a B7 I think.

Your missing out on a fair bit. I have mine in the bedroom and yes it still looks fine indeed, but I dont see anything missing on an OLED that is bettered on the Kuro. It's only plus points that outweigh any negatives you might see. Also with the aircon going in the bedroom, it's fighting a loosing battle with radiator that happen to display a picture device!

I will say, the general thought of the Kuro dying was the price. And yet we have TV's costing twice as much that are possibly selling more.......go figure

I'm more than happy with my old kuro at the moment, I'm not desperate to go 4k and all that that entails, it seems to me the TV market is so volatile with seemingly new features and changes every year at not inconsiderable prices which soon became outdated.

If my current tv packed up i'd probably buy a decent Oled , but I can't see an overwhelming need to upgrade

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I'm more than happy with my old kuro at the moment, I'm not desperate to go 4k and all that that entails, it seems to me the TV market is so volatile with seemingly new features and changes every year at not inconsiderable prices which soon became outdated.

If my current tv packed up i'd probably buy a decent Oled , but I can't see an overwhelming need to upgrade

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There are always changes around the corner, but I do understand the hesitation. Something not compatible for a future broadcast method (physical disc is sorted imo for years) rather than a better TV or PQ is a bet for for sure. The pull for me was a bigger size for less space. Going from a 50" Kuro to a modern 65" with actually not much more of a footprint was impossible to resist along with 4K and HDR. But one look at the uniformity of a plasma makes me pine for an OLED. But it must be 65". No way can I downsize, but 65" OLED's commend a mighty premium!

And it's not like I ditched the Kuro. It's in a bedroom. A Kuro in a bedroom lol!

mines a 60 inch KRP 600a last generation so the extra 5 inches wouldn't make so much difference
plus I'm lucky enough to have a dedicated , batcave cinema/projector set up so TV isn't the be and end all for me...for movies

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mines a 60 inch KRP 600a last generation so the extra 5 inches wouldn't make so much difference
plus I'm lucky enough to have a dedicated , batcave cinema/projector set up so TV isn't the be and end all for me...for movies

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Ahhhhh in that case, I can perfectly understand having a cinema room will give someone that perspective. I have a LX5090 so a step down the Kuro ladder? Cannot remember the KRP model numbers for my TV's generation

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What the advert broadcast every commercial break?!! Just started to watch. Looks great in 4K HDR, however the female voiceover is very grating. I take it it's a deliberate choice, but the computer racing game style they've used is bleh!

Have to agree with Phil, the Ullapool-Lochinver road is ace. My family have been going to Lochinver and Stoer just above it for generations. Sweeping bends that you can see any on-coming traffic, that means you can......oh wait, ex-copper......means you can drive on the left only and never cross over the lanes. Good pie shop in Lochinver too. But I bet Phil went here? Peet's Restaurant | Lochinver Restaurants | Top Quality Food

anyway great podcast, you've been missed greatly. Might have to consider a B7 I think.

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I've got a feeling the woman is a Radio Le Mans presenter, perhaps explains the radio broadcast quality her voice has. I know the guy certainly is.

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Great to hear you all again after your " break ". Laughed at Steve's chuckle in the background when Phil mentioned backward compatability and 3D. Found the discussion around OLED panels interesting and I will be plumping for a B7 without any reservations after Steve's review and willingness to get his credit card out to buy one. Looking forward to the UHD players' comparison article.

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Thanks again for another great listen. If only they did a B7 in 40 or 42", then i'd be in. Sadly wife wants a smaller screen next time (to which i read smaller total size as my 12 yr old panny has a lot of frame around it).