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I'd love to hear a breakdown from the resident experts on Chris Gragg. I had never heard of him before the combine, but saw his 40 time, and looked up what is readily available on him on the net, and nothing exceptional was written about him as a prospect. It appears he was playing injured his senior season, and I'm sure that affected his production. Does he have anything to offer? What are his strengths (other than speed) and weaknesses? Is he a mid-late round option if we skip on TE early?

Safe assumption that you don't watch much SEC football? If not, here's a thread from way back where I talked about Chris Gragg. Personally, I've been extremely intrigued by this kid since he was a sophomore.

Don't let that 6'3", 245 pound frame fool you. He's one of the best blockers at the position in this class, despite being the best athlete of the tight end group.

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Landry Jones and Barkley sure lost some money staying another year didn't they? And to think some wanted us to bypass last years impressive QB draft to wait for a shot at Barkley.

I'm not sure some wanted to bypass last year's QB class as much as they would've preferred Miami just stop winning meaningless games in order to secure a legitimately elite quarterback in Andrew Luck. As it was, Miami could've had the DROY at #8.

Barkley certainly lost money by coming back, but he's still the same quarterback, which is pretty damn good. He should have no problem coming in and throwing more INT's than TD's inbetween batted down passes if that's the standard you're insinuating he live up to.

Keep em coming Dr Slimm. I know I wasnt the only person awaiting this thread.

Quick question. What do you think of this kid from BYU at DE?

Im not a big combine guy, but I have to say Im intrigued after watching him do drills. Seems like a project, but at 12 this could be a great pick for us. He could provide immediate help rushing the passer on 3rd downs opposite Cam Wake, but could totally replace him in 2-3 years when he developes his complete game. Vernon and this kid could be a great book end of the future for the phins. Is he a JPP type who came into the league with raw skills and amazing physical ability that can develope into one of the leagues best DEs?

What do you dislike about Ertz? Very interested to hear your views, I keep hearing there isnt much between Ertz and Eifert.

It's a little bit of what I like more about the guys ahead of him than what I dislike about Ertz. Although his extremely short arms combined with his lack of vertical eliminates him as the type of seam threat, and mismatch in the passing game that a guy like Eifert brings. There's plenty between Ertz and Eifert. Couple that with the fact that as many as 6 TE's ran better than he did and I believe a 3rd round grade is about right.

I don't have as high a grade on Ertz as I had on Fleener or Dwayne Allen last year.

Keep em coming Dr Slimm. I know I wasnt the only person awaiting this thread.

Quick question. What do you think of this kid from BYU at DE?

Im not a big combine guy, but I have to say Im intrigued after watching him do drills. Seems like a project, but at 12 this could be a great pick for us. He could provide immediate help rushing the passer on 3rd downs opposite Cam Wake, but could totally replace him in 2-3 years when he developes his complete game. Vernon and this kid could be a great book end of the future for the phins. Is he a JPP type who came into the league with raw skills and amazing physical ability that can develope into one of the leagues best DEs?

I like him. He actually tests out better than Pierre-Paul in every single category. But he's a little bit different type of player. I like his ability to by physical at the POA. He's more of a stack-and-shed playmaker as a DE, probably the best stack-and-shed DE I've scouted. I'm not going to call him the next JPP because JPP exceeded any expectations that anyone had. He's good enough to be the #2 DE on my board.

Ansah has impressed me at every opportunity, particularly the position drills you're talking about. The interesting thing is that for a player that I believed played so physical at the POA, I actually thought he rushed the passer better on film from a 2-point stance. Reminds me of Willie McGinnest.

Safe assumption that you don't watch much SEC football? If not, here's a thread from way back where I talked about Chris Gragg. Personally, I've been extremely intrigued by this kid since he was a sophomore.

Don't let that 6'3", 245 pound frame fool you. He's one of the best blockers at the position in this class, despite being the best athlete of the tight end group.

Nope. You pegged me right. Outside of my Canes, I don't catch lots of other college games, SEC or otherwise. Just don't have the time really. Thanks for taking the time to go into more detail about Gragg, and linking to your prior assessment of him. On the surface it would seem he fits the mold of what the Fins front office was hoping they would get out of Egnew.