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Hope this is not inappropriate for this list.
I run several lists on majordomo using an outside service. For some
reason, I can't contact the service people of late although the basic
service seems to be running OK.
Here's my problem. I run public policy forums using an email list.
They run for about a week and the panelists and the registrants
change with each forum.
We're starting to offer access to the forums as a fund-raising device
for various non-profits but I want to run it at two levels. At one
level, the registrant will be part of a discussion list, able to
receive and post messages. However, I want the other level to simply
receive the messages without the ability to post.
The basic messages for the discussion list contain a reply to address
so that the reply is automatically addressed correctly. I don't want
to abandon that ease for either the panelists or the active
registrants. But, including it in the messages sent to the others
would permit them to reply.
Is there any way that all the messages from the forum can go out both
as a discussion and an announcement list?
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At 12:15 PM -0500 3/1/04, John Watkins wrote:
>Hope this is not inappropriate for this list.
If you want to know how to do this with Majordomo, this is the wrong
place to ask; the right place is the
"Majordomo-Users@GreatCircle.COM" mailing list.
If you want to discuss how to do this in general, without limiting
the discussion to any particular piece of software, or if you want to
discuss the meta issues that surround doing something like this, then
this is the right place for that discussion.
-Brent
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hello,
I'm just wondering if anyone has come across the situation where some peoples' emails always come through a mailing list system with the text body removed and lost, presumably due to the originator's email client or program not being compatible with the mailing list's design or configuration.
If so, any idea of a fix ? - I appreciate this may go much deeper into the actual program design of the mailing list system. I am having the trouble with Mailgust, a php combined list/forum manager; although still in beta, I could use it if this 'bug' wasn't happening. I'm in close contact with the developer but we're all a bit stumped at the moment.
I should add I tried Demime to act on all emails before they entered the mailing list, but that didn't correct the problem.
thanks for any help,
lee
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hello,

I'm just wondering if anyone has come across the situation where some peoples' emails always come through a mailing list system with the text body removed and lost, presumably due to the originator's email client or program not being compatible with the mailing list's design or configuration.

If so, any idea of a fix ? - I appreciate this may go much deeper into the actual program design of the mailing list system. I am having the trouble with Mailgust, a php combined list/forum manager; although still in beta, I could use it if this 'bug' wasn't happening. I'm in close contact with the developer but we're all a bit stumped at the moment.

I should add I tried Demime to act on all emails before they entered the mailing list, but that didn't correct the problem.

<< I'm not convinced of this. Have you been able to send any messages through the Mailgust (what a name) server successfully -- i.e., with the body intact? Comparing the headers of THOSE two messages -- i.e., both through Mailgust, one intact and one with the body stripped -- would potentially be more useful. >>

Yes, it's only about 4 people out of 20 whose messages exhibit the problem. Even 1 person would still be too high a precentage!

<<Oh, and when posting e-mail headers, PLEASE be sure that wrapping is turned off, and that the headers lines are not already wrapped when you paste them into the e-mail message. (If they're already wrapped, then manually unwrap them for us.) It's really annoying to try to read a mail header that has been wrapped. >>

Fair point - I've made a notepad file at the url below, which has 2 examples of headers received through mailgust;

the first from a person whose messages are always stripped of the body, and the second from a person whose emails are always ok.

Can you please have each of these senders send an email to your list and bcc to you, and then ALSO post the headers of the emails you received via bcc (the emails that don't go thru the list server)? I think it would be helpful to see the message as the list server sees it, before it processes the message rather than after.

I'm not an expert at this, but it's how I'd go about debugging the problem.

jc

At 12:05 PM 3/8/2004, you wrote:>>hello Vince and everyone,>>Vince Sabio wrote:>><< I'm not convinced of this. Have you been able to send any messages>through the Mailgust (what a name) server successfully -- i.e., with>the body intact? Comparing the headers of THOSE two messages -- i.e., both >through Mailgust, one intact and one with the body stripped
-->would potentially be more useful. >>>>Yes, it's only about 4 people out of 20 whose messages exhibit the >problem. Even 1 person would still be too high a precentage!>><>turned off, and that the headers lines are not already wrapped when>you paste them into the e-mail message. (If they're already wrapped,>then manually unwrap them for us.) It's really annoying to try to>read a mail header that has been wrapped. >>>>Fair point - I've made a notepad file at the url below, which has 2 >examples of headers received through mailgust;> the first from a person whose messages are always stripped of the body, > and the second from a person whose emails are always ok.>> http://www.incelsite.com/examples.txt>>many thanks for any further
advice,>>lee>>>>Yahoo! >Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! >Download >Messenger Now