Everybody in this country trusts the government to some degree or another.

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Evil presupposes a moral decision, intention, and some forethought. A moron doesn't stop to think or reason. He acts on instinct, like a stable animal, convinced he's doing good, that he's always right, and sanctimoniously proud to go around ****ing up . . .What the world needs is more thoroughly evil people and fewer idiot ****heads.

It appears as if yesme isn't going to respond, so answer me this. How can democratic government exist without implicit trust? What is democratic representation other than giving a person the responsibility of ruling for all of us?

Note: As I have said from the beginning, by trust I am referring to the idea that giving someone the power to govern also gives them the power to destroy. A president cannot have the power of war without the power of self-destruction. That is not to say that the we should have unrelenting faith in their goodness. That is not to say that we should not have checks, balances, and transparent observation of their actions. Please try to understand what I am saying. All it is saying is that giving someone the ability to govern is a dangerous but necessary game that we ultimately must do.

I highly doubt that we are disagreeing. You are simply misunderstanding.

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“There are only two kinds of people, those who accept dogmas and know it, and those who accept dogmas and don’t know it.” – G. K. Chesterton - The Mercy of Mr. Arnold Bennett, Fancies vs. Fads

I have been explicitly clear in my terms from the beginning. I stand that my argument is still sound.

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“There are only two kinds of people, those who accept dogmas and know it, and those who accept dogmas and don’t know it.” – G. K. Chesterton - The Mercy of Mr. Arnold Bennett, Fancies vs. Fads

Knowing the way this forum runs, I certainly don't expect it. But I would appreciate it. Or we can let it die. I feel as if I have made my point abundantly clear for anyone who wants to objectively read it.

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“There are only two kinds of people, those who accept dogmas and know it, and those who accept dogmas and don’t know it.” – G. K. Chesterton - The Mercy of Mr. Arnold Bennett, Fancies vs. Fads

While it is certainly possible that President Obama would not use this for anything but proper searching of terrorists, one cannot guarantee that a future president would not seek to bend this law to better serve them in controlling the American population. We the people trust the government because we feel like we have no choice and realize "well someone has to pass laws and run the show while I work all day cutting down trees for people to build things with as my way of contributing to the system and take care of my kids" so we entrust the government with things that we are not necessarily buying as "honest & efficient work" by them.

I just think the practice has a great amount of noble intentions, and dangerous applications.

We the people trust the government because we feel like we have no choice and realize "well someone has to pass laws and run the show while I work all day cutting down trees for people to build things with as my way of contributing to the system and take care of my kids" so we entrust the government with things that we are not necessarily buying as "honest & efficient work" by them.

I just think the practice has a great amount of noble intentions, and dangerous applications.

Exactly, silent acts like we trust these people, like if we didn't trust them, they would give up office or something?

Exactly, silent acts like we trust these people, like if we didn't trust them, they would give up office or something?

You have demonstrated that you clearly don't understand the argument being made. Please stop.

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“There are only two kinds of people, those who accept dogmas and know it, and those who accept dogmas and don’t know it.” – G. K. Chesterton - The Mercy of Mr. Arnold Bennett, Fancies vs. Fads

Speaking of trust. I'd rather put my trust in one guy, who was trained from birth to lead a country than a bunch of men elected through populism, sharing responsibility and come from backgrounds unrelated to their position.

Speaking of trust. I'd rather put my trust in one guy, who was trained from birth to lead a country than a bunch of men elected through populism, sharing responsibility and come from backgrounds unrelated to their position.

Can't say I would disagree.

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“There are only two kinds of people, those who accept dogmas and know it, and those who accept dogmas and don’t know it.” – G. K. Chesterton - The Mercy of Mr. Arnold Bennett, Fancies vs. Fads

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“There are only two kinds of people, those who accept dogmas and know it, and those who accept dogmas and don’t know it.” – G. K. Chesterton - The Mercy of Mr. Arnold Bennett, Fancies vs. Fads