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They should have let GM, Chrysler and the UAW crater and reorganize under bankruptcy protection like any other business that gets in trouble.

F250 with 292,000 miles regards,

If you don't get it that the last nail was driven in these companies coffin due to $4 dollar gas prices plus a financial crisis rivaling the great depression, and that they could not reorganize because credit marked were seized up completely, and that this was the only way to save millions of jobs & keep the companies from being liquidated for pennies on the dollar, then you never will. It is no longer worth arguing the point here on RTF.

Romney and his friends are just pissed because they couldn't swoop in, buy the companies for pennies on the dollar, and then ship all the jobs to China, the way they did with Delphi. I have several old college buddies who are in management now at the "big 3" and they tell me that the US auto business, including the foreigns, would all be GONE now, never to return. I get the feeling that you guys would think that was fine...

"For everyone to whom much is given, of him shall much be required." -- Luke 12:48

The concept of "build them where you sell them!" is something American workers were screaming since the 1970s when Toyota, Subaru, Datsun, et. al. began flooding our market with their cheap cars. We were lobbying for "content regulations" way back then. We were already seeing jobs in electronics, clothing, shoes ... everything; you name it ... disappearing from US factories due to cheap imports produced by workers being paid starvation wages. We campaigned to consumers the perils of not "buying American" and we were called greedy, radical isolationists trying only to protect our jobs.

GM building products in a foreign market where they will be sold is certainly not as desirable as building them here and exporting them. But that is not going to happen unless you think workers here should work for Chinese wages. The problem is building them over there and sending them here for us to buy with our American dollars. No economy has ever been able to survive that.

Admittedly, our "buy American" choices are severely diminished today and most of the trains have left the station never to return, I fear. But it still doesn't seem to be a concern to the consuming public. Every time you open your wallet or your checkbook, you are HIRING someone to build something or do something for you. YOU are the employer. Don't hire the kid on the other side of the world and then blame our government ... no matter who is in office ... for our unemployment.

You really don't want me to use up the bandwidth with all the "I told you so"s , but suffice it to say, we are reaping exactly what we sowed.

JS

ďDonít wave your phony patriotism in MY face! If you really love America, open your wallet and hire an American kid to build what you buy. Doug Fraser (paraphrased) 1980Real Americans buy American.

If you don't get it that the last nail was driven in these companies coffin due to $4 dollar gas prices plus a financial crisis rivaling the great depression, and that they could not reorganize because credit marked were seized up completely, and that this was the only way to save millions of jobs & keep the companies from being liquidated for pennies on the dollar, then you never will. It is no longer worth arguing the point here on RTF.

AW, c'mon Buzz! That's the beauty of it. We have the freedom to succeed AND the freedom to fail! No exceptions. So if these car companies can't cut it, screw 'em! Let 'em go under!

Oh, wait ... would all those worker bees then move from the "giver" group to the "taker" group??? Would we lose their tax contributions??? Or worse, would they then become a liability! As in "welfare, unemployment, food stamps, free school lunches, houses in foreclosure"? Hmmm. Probably wouldn't be able to spend as much at the mall either. Slackers!

Well, now I'm thinking, "who's gonna make up for that loss? Not you and I, right?"

I gotta rethink this.

JS

ďDonít wave your phony patriotism in MY face! If you really love America, open your wallet and hire an American kid to build what you buy. Doug Fraser (paraphrased) 1980Real Americans buy American.

AW, c'mon Buzz! That's the beauty of it. We have the freedom to succeed AND the freedom to fail! No exceptions. So if these car companies can't cut it, screw 'em! Let 'em go under!

Oh, wait ... would all those worker bees then move from the "giver" group to the "taker" group??? Would we lose their tax contributions??? Or worse, would they then become a liability! As in "welfare, unemployment, food stamps, free school lunches, houses in foreclosure"? Hmmm. Probably wouldn't be able to spend as much at the mall either. Slackers!

Well, now I'm thinking, "who's gonna make up for that loss? Not you and I, right?"

I gotta rethink this.

JS

I bet you would rather the folks on the east coast not get government assistance too. Bad use of you tax dollars...correct? Damn those northeast folks they don't vote republican.

And those business owners are going to rebuild without help from the government too...correct?

Get a clue.

It was nice being on vacation running my dogs and placing 4th in the AM last weekend and not having to read stupidity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!