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I subscribe to the patently incorrect view that the only difference between pie and cobbler is shape.

life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies

Victoria is very pretty
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I have been informed that LGBTQ is now properly LGBTQIA so now I'm a little more progressive because being progressive is a series of trivia challenges

Time to go watch that star wars movie that everyone's making O faces about!

Even though I am not a huge fan of cities the action and demography of urbanization does interest me. There are all sorts of cycles with it but overall through history, especially the 20th and 21st centuries, a real push on a population level to increase urbanization.

Of course the base economic reasons are pretty obvious. Centralization of production and so on.

But then when you think about it, a lot of modern urbanization was about the industrial revolution and industrial work. As we move towards automation and needing fewer people to keep a city running will there be a possible reversing of the current course? As there will be less need for the centralization of a work force as a major driver for populations collecting into a single space.

I just read the other day that the trend is projected to continue

I guess today about half of the world's population lives in cities -- projected to increase to 70% by 2050

Even though I am not a huge fan of cities the action and demography of urbanization does interest me. There are all sorts of cycles with it but overall through history, especially the 20th and 21st centuries, a real push on a population level to increase urbanization.

Of course the base economic reasons are pretty obvious. Centralization of production and so on.

But then when you think about it, a lot of modern urbanization was about the industrial revolution and industrial work. As we move towards automation and needing fewer people to keep a city running will there be a possible reversing of the current course? As there will be less need for the centralization of a work force as a major driver for populations collecting into a single space.

I just read the other day that the trend is projected to continue

I guess today about half of the world's population lives in cities -- projected to increase to 70% by 2050

Even though I am not a huge fan of cities the action and demography of urbanization does interest me. There are all sorts of cycles with it but overall through history, especially the 20th and 21st centuries, a real push on a population level to increase urbanization.

Of course the base economic reasons are pretty obvious. Centralization of production and so on.

But then when you think about it, a lot of modern urbanization was about the industrial revolution and industrial work. As we move towards automation and needing fewer people to keep a city running will there be a possible reversing of the current course? As there will be less need for the centralization of a work force as a major driver for populations collecting into a single space.

I just read the other day that the trend is projected to continue

I guess today about half of the world's population lives in cities -- projected to increase to 70% by 2050

It still is in the US at least. We have been constantly urbanizing through a lot of our history.

Though a lot of these studies and models, I worked with one in grad school, take a lot of assumptions on economics and technology moving and working a similar fashion.

If you remove the economic incentive of urbanization will we as a species continue to urbanize?

Though I would say the shift backwards, if it occurs, will probably be after we are dead and more in our grandchildren/great grandchildren's lifetime when we are in a much more automated society and some of the social upheaval of that is settled.

Pakistan isn't a huge country in population size overall. Especially compared to its neighbors. But it has two of the most populated "proper" cities in the world. That was fun to learn today.

tbf, trying to compare population of proper cities doesn't mean much

like yeah technically NYC ends at the borders of the five boroughs

but NYC doesn't really end there

trying to compare city sizes in a meaningful way is a little sticky

I was already discussing this earlier.

Though even if you add in the NYC metro area to it Karachi I think is still slightly bigger. I know Tokyo and Shanghai still dwarf NYC. Wiki uses the ~20 million estimate for NYC metro which is still smaller than some of the other major city metros like Delhi or Shanghai.