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Assumption 3 is incorrect. The composition of the tunica make it rigid and less pliable when 100% erect. The interaction of the longitudinal and radial aligned strands with the support strands originating at the septum and spanning the CC to the outer wall of the CC make it very rigid and resistant. Doing girth work at 80% to 95% is allows for much greater expansion of the tunica and provides a greater post-workout gain than the same exercises at 100% erect.

Now, because the tunica is extremely rigid at 100% forcing blood movement through the tunica is very difficult. Because the CS and glans are not encased in the tunica, they usually receive the majority of the constriction force. There is some ancillary increase in pressure inside the CC, but that is from the occlusion of the flow of blood out of the penis more so than the movement of blood inside the CC from the jelq.

Now if your assertion that erect jelqing was the only way to gain then your statement that "we'd all get big dicks just from jacking off" would validate your assertion regarding erect jelqs, not be used to refute gains from normal jelqs, because jacking off is best done when fully erect. Unfortunately we don't "all get big dicks from just jacking off" which is an argument against your "only erect jelqs" claim.

I absolutely cannot agree with this rebuttal. I'm currently hanging but when I'm finished I will respond in full by editing this message.

Let's make it simple. The title of this thread is "Erect jelqing: the ONLY jelq for gains".
This is simply false no matter how you look at it. In actuality there are probably countless ways to gain from jelqing, possibly up to and including erect jelqing.

I personally don't think there is any advantage of jelqing fully erect at all. I would bet that if one were to measure while jelqing 100% erect vs jelqing while 70% erect, that you would see more girth expansion during the stroke with the lower erection level.

Based on my experience, I agree fully with namsokiek, using the example of the rubber balloon. I call it the rubber
balloon theory and I have always adhered to it.

Again, Kingpole, who followed my approach back at Thunder's, some 9 years ago, and I jelqed at half full erection level
and made great gains both in girth and in length. There are many others who have followed this procedure who have
made significant gains as well.

I also knew a man back at Thunder's, who came by several times over the months complaining of permanent damage
due to jelqing at 100 %. I never needed to jelq at full erection, but his unfortunate injury confirmed my own suspicions
that 100 % jelqing is counter-productive, and also counter-intuitive.l

BigO and I both agree that for expansion (in length and girth) you need ROOM for expansion. This is impossible
with a rock hard cock.

I have always said, "Err on the side of safety." Better safe than sorry. We have just one cock. It's not like our
eyes, ears, lungs, kidneys, balls, etc.

How is it that many men claim they gained from edging for hours alone? Obviously they were erect during that.. Then there's the subject of Ulis, Clamping, and things of that nature. Erect exercises can yield great gains.. Not sure about erect jelqs though.

That doesn't mean erect exercises are the BEST EVER. In fact for some they might be bad.. Everyone's different. Looking forward to reading more in this thread.

Edging is a whole different ball of wax. I have edged my cock to full erection multiple times over a two to three
hour period, two to three times a week, and have reached my longest and thickest temporary gains, but my
cock was not fully erect when I hit those levels. It was waning--again--I think the rubber balloon theory applied
here. At any one point, there is just so much blood you can push around your penis, whatever the erection level.

The force of a kegel can create internal expansion. One kegel might seem like nothing, but 20, 30.. 100+ erect kegels during edging.. That's a lot of temporary expansion. Eventually that temporary expansion can't hold one any turns into permanent gains.