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It's kinda hard to grasp which direction Ukraine is heading.With each new day, they seem to alienate Russia.In the end Russia will be the country that will most likely take on the task of supporting Ukraine. The west will soon grow tired of giving billions only to see no progress.I doubt Ukraine will ever overcome the corruption, and have a properly functioning government.

How very dishonest of that US news site to use Igor Derbin in a coffin to make any point about Russia. He was killed a few days ago in central Kiev during government and right sector clashes and his death is unconnected to Russia. Typical western media dishonesty.

For those with a short memory, just last year it was made clear that Ukraine was not considered as a potential NATO member.

In order for Ukraine go join they would have to be able to provide a couple of things that they can not do. 1. Not be involved in territorial disputes within its borders 2. Spend at least 2% of gdp on 'defence' (yes they spend more on their civil war but the country is, in truth, bankrupt and can not support the 2% level for NATO support.)

The idea is that there's a preexisting condition clause. One can hardly expect to join nato and benefit from the mutual defence part of the treaty for an existing dispute. Of course the impetus for the current administration wanting to join is exactly for that reason. The population of Ukraine consistently poll as wanting to end the civil war imposed upon them and so their support for NATO membership is similarly chimeric - historically Ukraine's populace have not wanted membership and absent the war imposed upon them that is unlikely to have changed.

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For those with a short memory, just last year it was made clear that Ukraine was not considered as a potential NATO member.

In order for Ukraine go join they would have to be able to provide a couple of things that they can not do. 1. Not be involved in territorial disputes within its borders 2. Spend at least 2% of gdp on 'defence' (yes they spend more on their civil war but the country is, in truth, bankrupt and can not support the 2% level for NATO support.)

The idea is that there's a preexisting condition clause. One can hardly expect to join nato and benefit from the mutual defence part of the treaty for an existing dispute. Of course the impetus for the current administration wanting to join is exactly for that reason. The population of Ukraine consistently poll as wanting to end the civil war imposed upon them and so their support for NATO membership is similarly chimeric - historically Ukraine's populace have not wanted membership and absent the war imposed upon them that is unlikely to have changed.

Those with selective- note snot 'short' memories' will note that Ukraine WAS non-aligned and had agreed to be a non nuclear proliferation nation.... They were 'protected' by Russia UK, USA ...

That worked out well for them ..

So 'well' that most Ukrainians now SUPPORT NATO membership and as andrewfi points out .. the reasons why this cannot happen, currently

Hands up who 'benefits' most by ensuring NATO membership cannot happen ... and might ensure a frozen conflict and prolonged economic woes.... ?

How very dishonest of that US news site to use Igor Derbin in a coffin to make any point about Russia. He was killed a few days ago in central Kiev during government and right sector clashes and his death is unconnected to Russia. Typical western media dishonesty.

There's been talk that Russia might just have had played a part in the protest.I will give you little hint. It has to do with the Minsk agreement and the sanctions against Russia.

I wasn't sure where to put this, but... Loved it how yesterday at a press conference Serbia's Ivica Dacic hissed at EU, re. their disapproval of Serbia having joint military exercise (wording?) with Russia: NATO is ok with it and you are not a military pact, so mind your own business! He added a crutch wordbre, a very Balkan word to express strong disapproval, closest to Russian bly**aty

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