and europeans. they were very much in place under pope benedict xvi when he wascardinaljosephratzinger. maybeit's time for someone outside of rome, who is not engrained in this culture, maybe it's time from someone from a developing nation, someone else to clean house. >> raymond, a former catholic friar in england spoke to christiane amanpour, and what he said, it really stuck with me. i wanted to play it for you. his name is mark dowd. here he is. >> homosexuality is the ticking time bomb in the catholic church. on the one hand, the church teaches that the condition of same-sex attraction is intrinsically disordered, those are ratzinger's own words from 1986, and yet we know that actually about half if not more of all the people attracted into seminaries and the priesthood are gay themselves. >> ratzinger is pope benedict. is this true? >> i think you have to step back for a second, erin. this is hardly a news flash. father donald cousins wrote about this 20 years ago. father andrew greeley coined the phrase lavender mafia talking about a subculture within the catholic church. but barbie w