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So I have not made any gains for 8 months now. In fact, I have lost about .15 of an inch in girth. I don't know what to do, PE just doesn't seem to be working for me any more. At first I thought I was over working, but when I take breaks I lose girth. After about 5 months I manage to gain .25 of an inch pretty solidly, but that quarter inch just seemed to vanish. For a while PE seemed to be working and I was convinced that I would eventually gain the 3/4 of an inch in girth that I have dreamed of. Currently my opinion of PE has been jaded and I am no longer convinced it works. Please help me figure out what I should do about this dilemma. Here is the shedule I have been following.

Later in the day (minimum a couple hours): 120 kegels 4 seconds each except for the last 3 which I do 1 minute, 1 minute, 2 minutes

Day 2

1 full set O-bends
60 Kegels 4 seconds except for the last 2 which I do 1 minute, 1 minute
10 minutes clamping

Later in the day (minimum a couple hours): 60 kegels 4 seconds, last one 2 minutes

Day 3

edge for a half hour

Day 4

total rest

Since PE has stopped effecting me I have had no clue what do. I try a routine for a couple weeks see no PIs or negative ones and then I try a new routine. I'm going on a year of PE now and I have had almost nothing to say for it. Please help me form a routine that will work. Currently with my routine I am experiencing no PIs (neither positive nor negative) the only thing its doing is keeping my flaccid at its standard max size. I'm never seeing any periods where I even get up to the .25 increase that I gained 8 months ago, only occasionally will I get close. Girth is my only goal.

I'd take kinpole's advice seriously, but if you feel you must continue PE now, why not change it up a bit? You could do only squeeze exercises and drop the jelqs, with more intensity and shorter amount of time. Create a routine that is the total opposite of what you're doing now. You could also try a shocking routine as remek describes in his excellent book. And if you're really serious why not try Big Al's male enhancement Coach Program?

I say this so many times I hate to sound like a broken record player. I had no gains from manual exercises for 5 months, then after hanging for 6 weeks I gained 7mm EL. Seriously, try hanging, it was the only thing that worked for me.

KP, the break is exactly what I was thinking and I actually took a 3-4 week break recently. I'm actually about two weeks into restarting. My only concern is that the last time I took a break I saw positive PIs immediately after restarting, I'm not really seeing any now. Do you think the break wasn't long enough? I also didn't really edge, I just jerked off whenever I felt like it, which for me was like 1-2 times a day (usually 1).

I would try the hanging, but that is really a length exercise which would just make me more disproportional. I already have 5 inches flaccid and 7.1 inches bpel, it's the girth that is really lacking for me.

I was thinking of possibly trying an extender, but is that pretty much the same thing as hanging? I have heard you gain girth from them, do they really work? How well does hanging stretch the tunica compared to extenders? Because it feels like my primary limiting factor is a tight tunica currently. Should I try just hanging or an extender and edging for a while and see If that works?

I'm just worried about the jerk-off on the rest day because I feel like it's good to have 1 day of absolutely no touching. I would say finish off the edging with a jerk-off but I want to be saved up so I can get real big when clamping and I want the clamping day to be the day before the rest. Also what do you think about the edging later in the day of day 1 should I have it, or should I have no edging in my routine at all?