Anyone know if the last Vic Ranges fires had any real impact on the feral goat herds? Last time I was at Mt Stapleyton I saw load of goats, with any luck they were bbq'd also. If not then I guess they will be fattening up on all the weeds that climbers brought into the place. What is the latest asbestos update from the campground? Has the rain washed away the meagre remains of the Grampians that the fires didn't destroy?

That shit is blowing in the wind. After the canberra fires there were weeds growing everwhere, kilometers from roads and tracks it was weed city. Again, climber traffic is so inconsequential in the overall picture.

>2. Ever seen a washed out walking track?

Yes, they're very thin, doesn't matter for shit in the scheme of things. Anyway, the weeds will shore up any remaining soil quite quickly. 3 years from now you'll be having to machete tracks through the jungle of weed and young eucalypts.

On 22/01/2014 One Day Hero wrote:>On 22/01/2014 bones wrote:>>Back on topic though, I think the OP's sentiment is a good one. If you've>>never been to some of the few crags that are still open then it probably>>woudn't hurt to hold off on your Taipan project for a while and try them>>out. The climbing might not be as special but it'll make a nice change>>of scenery. One of my favourite weekends was at Black Ians, and I've>been>>meaning to check out Barbican rocks for a long time....>>Nope, the op's sentiment is a bunch of shit. He's had a mild trauma of>nearly having his house burn and has decided that it's a good opportunity>to be the boss of everyone.>>I love the idea that the Chimney Pots are some kind of cool plan B for>Taipan. I'd fly from the other side of the world for Taipan, Black fuching>Ian's fuching Rocks isn't worth driving to from Bendigo, let alone from>interstate! There's better climbing 10k's from my house in Canberra than>what is found at Barbican fuching Wall! You people obviously have taste>in your arse's or, more likely, the properly good gramps routes are too>hard for you anyway, so you have no idea what world class climbing actually>looks like.

I wasn't really after your endorsement of these ideas or opinions but nice of you to take the time

On 22/01/2014 bones wrote:>I wasn't really after your endorsement of these ideas or opinions but>nice of you to take the time
Where's the Like button?
Generally useless farcebook widget would actually come in handy here

On 22/01/2014 kieranl wrote:>On 22/01/2014 Justcameron wrote:>>If course I sympathise with people who have lost homes and property,>but>>I think it's all good for the environment.>The number of homes lost in the fires has been revised up to 30. I know>people from at least 2 of those households. I also know several others>who confronted the fires approaching their homes and either left or fought>for their lives. All have undergone severe trauma. "It's all good for the>environment" doesn't cut it.
Kieran, My comments were not meant to offend, and were not relating to the huge impact on people and property.

My comments were specifically and only in regard to Wendy's comment:>Poor bloody environment.

How about y'all host a massive triple J hottest 100 party at Halls Gap this weekend. Register it with the J's - give em a call and they might even plug it. More chance of people turning up then flogging some (allegedly) poxy non-crag. Due to the great loss people have sufferred I will graciously lower my commission for coming up with this grand idea to a modest 2% of booze takings - for which I will receive payment by personally drinking (free of charge) 2% of all booze consumed. As per my standard rider I will require provision of an ambulance.