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We ain't Ishmael's brotheren. He was cast out. Abraham should ought to have not done that with Hagar.

God DOES have a wicked sense of humor though. (not wicked in the sense of wickedness, but wicked funny)

The children of the bondwoman are still a persecutin the children of Sarah. They just can't stand it that they are outcasts.

Gal 4:22-31
22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise, 24 which things are symbolic. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar — 25 for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children — 26 but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all. 27 For it is written:

"Rejoice, O barren,
You who do not bear!
Break forth and shout,
You who are not in labor!
For the desolate has many more children
Than she who has a husband."

28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are children of promise. 29 But, as he who was born according to the flesh then persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, even so it is now. 30 Nevertheless what does the Scripture say? "Cast out the bondwoman and her son, for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman." 31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman but of the free.
NKJV

We ain't Ishmael's brotheren. He was cast out. Abraham should ought to have not done that with Hagar.

God DOES have a wicked sense of humor though. (not wicked in the sense of wickedness, but wicked funny)

The children of the bondwoman are still a persecutin the children of Sarah. They just can't stand it that they are outcasts.

Noooooooo.............
We are, brothers from another mother.
and it is not Abraham or Gods fault!!!!
It is all on Sarah. She started to worry. She did not believe. She told Abraham to "go to" Hagar. Now what feller, when the wife says "Go Bang the upstairs maid" is going to say no??? I mean, he pondered for a bit. Wondered if it was a trick. Asked her again.... She told him "drive it home big boy" So he was on her like a hobo on a ham sandwich.
THEN....
After the deed was done and the first born was born OOOOOPS look who else is knocked up!
And THEN....
'cause she now had Isaac She Sarah, cast out the maid and child.
Yet, God kept the covenent....

wicked sence of humor She has I say

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"So what is big is not always the Trout nor the Deer but the chance, the being there. And what is full is not necessarily the creel nor the freezer, but the memory." ~ Aldo Leopold

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