Sarah Jane Smith: No.The universe has to move forward. Pain and loss, they define us as much as happiness or love. Whether it's a world, or a relationship. Everything has its time. And everything ends.

Yeah, that was my last straw too. If they were even TRYING to make her into anything other than an obvious ploy for **** 18-25 year old males, they've failed...on top of which, they've set back women in scifi at least two decades.

Karen is an attractive woman - just her presence in the show should be enough to satisfy any 'cravings' shall we say for the dads etc but this INSISTENCE on using the character to point out the obvious is really growing very tired.

Considering what the character has gone through/experienced she doesn't appear to be showing ANY signs of wisdom or dare I say it of developing a character. In fact she had more as Amelia.

What is more galling is that kids/young women are looking up to the character because of her association with the Doctor. A generation that believe the likes of Amy Pond is COOL/worthy of emulation.

Sarah Jane Smith: No.The universe has to move forward. Pain and loss, they define us as much as happiness or love. Whether it's a world, or a relationship. Everything has its time. And everything ends.

I don't hate Amy per se, but I will say that having a daughter makes you look at things a different way. As in, not just entertainment as Mandy said above. There is the ability to be a role model. I would have no problem with my daughter, once she is older, watching Rose, Martha, or Donna. But I am not thrilled with the idea of her watching Amy and suddenly wanting to wear a really short skirt.

Ah...I wasn't actually querying Amy as a role model in respect of her clothing. I am a firm believer that people - regardless of sex/gender - should dress/attire themselves as they see fit. My daughter wears a short skirt - so do I but we both also have a sense of self worth /of how we wish to be treated/treat others.

No - my problem is Amy's character. Or lack of it. How she is depicted. She is used as a source of innuendo/depicted as a 'tease' for want of a better word. Her character allows that to be - not what she wears.

Sarah Jane Smith: No.The universe has to move forward. Pain and loss, they define us as much as happiness or love. Whether it's a world, or a relationship. Everything has its time. And everything ends.

Sarah Jane Smith: No.The universe has to move forward. Pain and loss, they define us as much as happiness or love. Whether it's a world, or a relationship. Everything has its time. And everything ends.

Sarah Jane Smith: No.The universe has to move forward. Pain and loss, they define us as much as happiness or love. Whether it's a world, or a relationship. Everything has its time. And everything ends.

Well...not that anything has been confirmed..but there have been the rumours going round that this is The Ponds last series and with The Moff stating that River's identity is to be revealed there is every possibility that series 6 may be the journeys end for both characters.

Sarah Jane Smith: No.The universe has to move forward. Pain and loss, they define us as much as happiness or love. Whether it's a world, or a relationship. Everything has its time. And everything ends.

Well...not that anything has been confirmed..but there have been the rumours going round that this is The Ponds last series and with The Moff stating that River's identity is to be revealed there is every possibility that series 6 may be the journeys end for both characters.

Pun fully intended

I could hope. I enjoyed Pandorica Opens and plan to do a marathon of S5 over the weekend. I'm just tired of the sexism, the wifey crap, and wish Amy had been a far better and more developed character, and a likable one at that.

I was starting to miss Rose and I had already had Rose burnout, where do I begin?

Rose at least had some redeeming features however much of an irritant she became. The same cannot be said for Amy - her motivations seem to be totally selfish.

The Doctor treats her like a well loved precocious child which is equally annoying - with all that has happened she should have at least grown up a little but she hasn't and the fact that the Doctor and Rory continue to placate her really doesn't make much sense.

I'm kind of hoping series 6 will put all this to rights - one way or another

Sarah Jane Smith: No.The universe has to move forward. Pain and loss, they define us as much as happiness or love. Whether it's a world, or a relationship. Everything has its time. And everything ends.

Rose at least had some redeeming features however much of an irritant she became. The same cannot be said for Amy - her motivations seem to be totally selfish.

The Doctor treats her like a well loved precocious child which is equally annoying - with all that has happened she should have at least grown up a little but she hasn't and the fact that the Doctor and Rory continue to placate her really doesn't make much sense.

I'm kind of hoping series 6 will put all this to rights - one way or another

You summed my feelings pretty well. I truly don't understand why people like her. She had all of two facial expressions in the first ep then maybe three in the last eps. I just find her bland and annoying at best.

From what I can tell people like her because she's young feisty and has long legs

Donna took no nonsense from the Doctor and went from being a superficial trite self absorbed irritation to a warm compassionate human being with a deep love and understanding of 10. There was true respect/friendship between them and both benefited from the experience. I see no evidence of this with Amy.

I can understand the Doctor being drawn to Amelia but aside from curiousity as to what surrounded Amy I am at a loss as to why he would continue to have her travel with him. Especially after she got her family back and married Rory. He's left companions behind for less

That aside I always assumed Amy's two dimensional character was deliberate - as a result of the crack in time -with the airing of the christmas specials/mini episodes I've had to put that theory to rest

Sarah Jane Smith: No.The universe has to move forward. Pain and loss, they define us as much as happiness or love. Whether it's a world, or a relationship. Everything has its time. And everything ends.

It's ironic that you say Rose is a very manipulative woman. Have you seen Amy Pond? I hold nothing against Mrs Williams but she basically tried to bed the Doctor on the Eve of her Wedding in FAS. She then flirted with Van Gogh. And then, to top it ALL off, she has the cheek to feel surprised at Rory for liking Jennifer!

It's ironic that you say Rose is a very manipulative woman. Have you seen Amy Pond? I hold nothing against Mrs Williams but she basically tried to bed the Doctor on the Eve of her Wedding in FAS. She then flirted with Van Gogh. And then, to top it ALL off, she has the cheek to feel surprised at Rory for liking Jennifer!

Rose was young and made the mistakes of youth. She also showed signs of character development and growth, some for better and some for worse.

I've yet to see ANY changes in Amy whatsoever. She ranges from flat to downright unlikable. All she does is pout, boss the Doctor around, and complain.