LostNFound wrote:
Now take a real look at your perception of the Fourth Density as you coin it. No one is connected to real human beings.

No, that's third density, if you mean that nobody is connected to real human beings. That's the transhumanist trap, with more and more techno gadgets like iPhone X and ever more compelling video games.

The transition into fourth density will still involve those kinds of information technology tools, but the rising into higher consciousness has to be done outside those gadgets. The internet for example, can only give us pointers and knowledge about fourth density, but not lift us up above third density because the internet is itself third density.

I have to say one thing, You certainly have one heck of an imagination. Do you constantly watch the Matrix movies? I watch them ever so often but by gummy bears I do not critique them like you do. Wow I would think that the walls in your sleeping area are covered with posters of scenes from those movies. I get the whole thing about the red and blue pills but your perception of the meaning goes way beyond. Ever think about getting a job to critique new movies and even old movies? WOW!!!!

I see that you are still in that "Cherry picking" mode. Seems like you are constantly taking bits and pieces of what someone says or from books and being out of context with the entire piece. If you go back and read, I spoke about all three densities so yes yes yes I was speaking about the 4th density. It would seem that your perception only is what drives you. I would venture to say that you at one point had no idea what Density or dimension even meant and it appears that you only believe what someone has written about in their own perception or talked about on some video. Are these characters absolutely sure about what they say or do they only speculate? What do you see within your own self?

So you imagine that the technology of today is taking us into trans-humanism. Your creative mind (blue pill) could be right about that you know. So I am going to be creatively perceptive here also. Could it be that all this tech shit is keeping us from ascending to that higher consciousness? That a greater majority of the dumbed down humans are already trans humanized and just don't know it simply because they have the WI-FY device jammed in there head 24/7. Wait! could it be that is the real 4th density. Density = The thickness of something, how heavy it is. "The density of that object is so thick it weighs so much that you can't pick it up." Shit lets get this person to swallow the red pill and then they won't be so damn dense. Density 1, 2, 3,and 4 is this the same thing as Def-con 1, 2,3 or 4?

Here stick this IPhone, IPad, Icrap in your ear, in your pocket, in your bra, anywhere on you body and let the damn Micro waves burn you from the inside out and then you are a trans human. Don't forget, you have to continue to use your fingers to pretend to communicate and watch them become denser.

Density = loads of sex Wow I guess I got it now. Let's not forget now, Jordan Maxwell needs you to purchase his CD's and DVD's so he can continue to tell you how to live your life in the way he sees it all. Colors, gee I have a color wheel and I use it to get different colors. Okay I get it...........

LostNFound wrote:I would venture to say that you at one point had no idea what Density or dimension even meant and it appears that you only believe what someone has written about in their own perception or talked about on some video. Are these characters absolutely sure about what they say or do they only speculate? What do you see within your own self?

If I had listened to say Harald Kautz-Vella in the past, I would probably have thought that what he was talking about is some kind of woo woo tinfoil hat New Age fantasies mixed with pseudoscience. But I have more and more started to filter out the surface layer at face value information and connect the general meaning of what people like him say into something that makes sense to me.

LostNFound wrote:Could it be that all this tech shit is keeping us from ascending to that higher consciousness?

Many people talk about our world as being a result of some accident, mistake, or taken over by evil in a way that was not supposed to have happened. Here I have the completely opposite view. Everything is already in perfect order. The mess we see in the world today is no more than the mess of a dissolving caterpillar before it turns into a butterfly.

What is third density? Third density is the deliberate limitation of physical reality in order to enable new civilizations like our own to grow and develop into something unique and creative.

Fourth density is the removal of those limitations. Compare with a chick growing inside its egg. The life inside the egg is very limited (third density) yet at the same time, breaking the egg too early before the chick has been fully developed, will kill the chick. Of course, for a whole civilization it will not just be the breaking of an egg, it will be an apocapypse.

"An apocalypse (Ancient Greek: ἀποκάλυψις apokálypsis, from ἀπό and καλύπτω, literally meaning "an uncovering") is a disclosure of knowledge or revelation. In religious contexts it is usually a disclosure of something hidden, "a vision of heavenly secrets that can make sense of earthly realities".[1]" -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And the egg analogy is misleading in other ways too, so it's just a crude metaphor. For example the accelerating development of technology going on at the moment is a useful transition tool for how we can make our third density world fit into fourth density. And if the trend towards transhumanism will start to become too dominating, that will just accelerate the spiritual progress by making more fourth density "energies" flow into our world because we have reached a maturity point where superior spiritual technology is ready to take over the business.

Ken WIlber asked one of the Wachowski brothers (now sisters?) about his interpretation that the yellow golden light in the Matrix movies meant Spirit. And the Wachowski brother didn't tell but said iirc something about how that there is so much symbolism in those movies that one would hardly ever figure it all out.

Anders wrote:So the green color in the Matrix movie represents the connection to the heart missing in our world today. The red pill, blue pill choice in the first Matrix movie represents a choice between mind (blue pill) and sexuality (red pill).

Thanks for your explanation, Anders. In my opinion, you are really stretching here to connect the meanings assigned to colors by Harald Kautz-Vella to the colors used by the Wachowski brothers in the Matrix movies. But I appreciate that there is at least a method to your madness, so to speak.

It's not that we can't handle the truth. It's that they can't handle us if we know the truth.

Anders wrote:So the green color in the Matrix movie represents the connection to the heart missing in our world today. The red pill, blue pill choice in the first Matrix movie represents a choice between mind (blue pill) and sexuality (red pill).

Thanks for your explanation, Anders. In my opinion, you are really stretching here to connect the meanings assigned to colors by Harald Kautz-Vella to the colors used by the Wachowski brothers in the Matrix movies. But I appreciate that there is at least a method to your madness, so to speak.

Yes, that's basically what I have done. I think of it as a three "chakra" system almost. Three primary color. That's the foundation. More than three colors is redundant since all the other colors can be produced as a blend of red, green and blue.

"Additive color is a method to create color by mixing a number of different light colors, with shades of red, green, and blue being the most common primary colors used in additive color system." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Additive_color" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It can also be interesting to look at number symbolism in addition to colors in relation to sexuality and spirituality. I know very little about number symbolism so I have to put it together on the fly.

So, according to that number symbolism, the number 2 is connected to man, sex and evil. Does that mean that both man and sex are evil? No, I think the number 2 means the duality in third density. And the evil comes from missing the heart connection, which is represented by the number 3. So third density has only two dimensions of action as in polarity and duality; us vs them, me vs you, service to self vs service to others.

Also the number 666 is often associated with evil:

"This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.[e] That number is 666.

e. Revelation 13:18 Or is humanity’s number" -- Revelation 13:18

666 = humanity's number?! WTF? How can that be true? We are NOT evil! The answer is that it represents humanity in our "fallen" third density state, with duality polarisation. 6 = 3 * 2. And six three times means that there is trinity, meaning heart connection, but it is broken by the number 2. So the (or at least one) number for humanity in fourth density is 999, symbolizing a healed and complete heart connection (9 = 3+3+3), and we have entered the ninth wave of creation in the Mayan calendar.

Yay, another alternative researcher recently mentioned sexual energy in relation to spiritual awakening. In this video Sethikus Boza mentions from about 2 minutes how sexual energy in the third dimension (I guess that's the same as third density) has an inverted principle turning into a snake eating its own tail (the ouroboros).

Like with Aug Tellez, I don't fully grasp what Boza meant about how the sexual energy will be used for awakening, but he said that physical reality takes precedence, meaning I take it that transcension into fourth density will be done with third density physical reality remaining being the foundation. So it will not be an ascension into an astral or spiritual realm divorced from our everyday ordinary physical reality. It will be our planet earth as physical as usual even in fourth density, but with the deliberate limited "fallen state" of the fixed physical laws in third density removed.

Someone said in a video that in his preteen years he got sexually aroused by looking at cards with pictures of topless women on them. Today he needs to watch extreme porn on the internet to get any sexual interest at all. That's a typical third density situation where the mind is connected to sexuality without a heart connection.

To solve problems like that and to rise into higher consciousness tantra is one method:

But tantra is still third density it seems to me. My current theory is that what will happen when the heart starts to become fully connected with our consciousness, then there will be a great sense of peace and feeling of contentment. And then the ego mind doesn't need to strive for all kinds of things so much because there is already a mid-level of peace and tranquility in the body and mind.

Wow Anders, I am not sure where to step in here as you certainly are covering a lot of territory. Your methodology leaves me mind boggled most of the time so what I will do is try and grok the totality of your research. To go from the Matrix movies to numerology to Sethikus Boza is a wide stretch to grasp.

Pointing to my posts on other other threads we run into problems when we touch on forbidden subjects and sex certainly has been one of them. So what are we looking at when we say sexual? No matter what dimension or density we are traveling in we will find that Creation itself is sexual in nature. So it seems to me that to look deeply into this one needs to closely examine the self right down to the atomic energetic level, its all about energy. And vitally how you use that energy. In plasma physics there is a super-fluid state which is two dynamic opposites that compose the one and they are inseparable. Um?

It seems the basic problem here on Earth is that we are interpreters of reality and through these interpretations are constantly reinforcing the projection that keeps the mechanics going. When it comes to sex most people are programmed to either fear it (trauma), condemn it (religion) or try to externally control others to exert power over (social conditioning). Fundamentally we are fucked up.

So if we humans are to rise to higher consciousness how would that affect our sexual nature? That is your question, right?

If sex is seen from a purely energetic point of view it is an act of creation, of course we've diminished this to solely mean procreation, the bearing of children. Again I am going to go experiential here because what I have learned is that all action has repercussions through all densities. I actually like density as a descriptor for it feels more whole than dimensions which seems to indicate separation. I won't add more links here ... though I will say that when we investigate the most ancient recorded societies there is a predominant known truth and that is that sex is sacred. Sorrowfully that was perverted via the aforementioned conditioning agents. And along with sex rides money and power, something any predator knows.

For myself having lived all of the conditions I mentioned including ancient memories of sacred sexuality I have chosen to -she looks for the right words- shall we say stay true. True to me and my perceptions. Long term abstinence or a deep state of longing can take one to experience the vivid sexual nature of our Earth and the Cosmos. in certain states of consciousness one is in orgasmic (Wilhelm Reich's work with orgone comes to mind) contact with Creation and nothing we humans do that we call sex can even compare. Our deepest longings are for union are with the all.

Tantra has issues too for it has been corrupted and commercialized. I have several friends who are Tantra practitioners and while I adore them they are still grappling with the same fundamental questions we all are delving into.

The journey, the challenge is to step into the
projection room and stop being lost in the script.