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Did you say that? That is the one thing I don't like about Perl and it has nothing to do with the language! I have been doing some Tcl work lately. Now Tcl is a cool language and it has some perception baggage as well. What I like about Tcl mostly? The community is the friendliest and helpful of any (including the Ruby one) that I have participated in bar none. That goes a looong way with someone trying to pick up a language.