thanks for the replies everyone.I am going to go take a look at them and buy it my Friend is selling it for another Friend so he is holding it.it seems lately people are selling their gear for half price time are still bad out there.

Love my Steiner Predator Pro 12x40s. Been using them for years! Get em!Darren

I was reading about that model I think it was the c5 version and was curious if the coatings on the glass really make it easier to spot game. Supposedly it makes them kinda "pop" out due to the coatings picking up on the red/brown hues. Can you tell a significant difference between the Steiner Predators vs other brands of similiar quality?