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Pacers trade you hated the most

There has been a lot of discussion lately about past Pacers trades. So I thought it would be fun to have a thread discussing your favorite Pacers trade and the trade you hated the most. I'd really like to discuss what you thought at the time the trade was made. Did you like the trade at the time

Let me list some of the big trades in the last dozen years or so.

Detlef for McKey

Person and Michael Williams for Sam Mitchell and Pooh Richardson

Antonio Davis for Bender

Brad Miller and Mercer for Pollard, Danny Ferry

Dale Davis for J.O

Al Harrington for Jackson

Jalen Rose and Best for Ollie, Mercer, Brad Miller, and Artest

Malik Sealy and Piatkowski for Mark Jackson (was that the trade)

What did we give up to get Foster. Was it Vontiego Cummings and a future draft pick.

Herb Wiliams for Detlef

Tisdale for Tank and Wittman.

How did we get Jalen Rose. I forget.

Well I think that is enough.

My favorite without question was the Jalen for Brad Miller and Artest. When that trade became official that was a great day. There were no doubts in my mind that it was the right trade at the right time.

The trade I hated the most at the time was not Detlef for Mckey, I liked that trade. The trade I hated the most was the Antonio for Bender trade. I loved having two Davis' and I've never liked trading an established player for a player straight from HS, especially when the Pacers were close to a championship. Of course some 6 years later the trade has not worked out, but regardles of that, at the time I did not like that trade.

Peck, you can only choose one (no you can choose as many as you want). Let me say this about the Dale Davis trade. That was the most shocking. I remember where I was when I heard it. In a hotel room at Cedar Point and I heard it while watching CNN Headline News channel. It was a short blurb and I was not really paying attention to the TV, but I heard something about DD traded and I heard the name of Jermaine O'Neal. I hated to see DD traded, but I really wanted J.O. He was a guy who from what I saw from his limited time at Portland, I thought he was going to be a very good player.
That trade was never rumored, although there were some rumors of the Pacers having some interest in J.O.

Re: Pacers trade you hated the most

Chuck for Pooh and spare change. Easy.

A future (1984) #1 for Tom Owens was brutal, as was a future (1990) #1 for Bill Garnett and Terrence Stansberry.

Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
And life itself, rushing over me
Life itself, the wind in black elms,
Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

Re: Pacers trade you hated the most

Detlef for McKey. I know it worked out for us, but at the time it made me so mad, I couldn't look at Sports page, or anything basketball related for a few weeks. It's the most upset I've ever been with the Pacers.

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Chuck was allegedly traded away for chemistry reasons. But the chemistry didn't improve after the trade, and in-fact with Pooh it actually got worse.

Trading Detlef for McKey, and replacing Pooh with Workman and then trading Pooh for Jackson, then we had great chemistry.

I'm not sure Detlef was a "traditional" chemistry issue, although the Pacers made it clear that he didn't really want to be in Indy any more or play for Brownie. However, because he so versatile he either got in Reggie's way on the perimeter or in Rik's way in the paint. With him out of the picture, our court spacing improved which allowed the chemistry to get better.

Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
And life itself, rushing over me
Life itself, the wind in black elms,
Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

Re: Pacers trade you hated the most

Nothing that's happened in the Donnie era comes close to the old days (English, Owens, etc.)

I'll thrown one out that nobodies talked about. Dampier for Mullin. I didn't care for that one bit. Mullin was good at first, but by the end of that first season he was nothing but a roadblock in the way of Jalen. Knock Dampier all you want, but think about him backing up Rik against NY in '99 or against Shaq in 2000.

Re: Pacers trade you hated the most

If you count the Brad Miller saga as a trade than that one would be number one on my list.

At the time I didn't really mind the trade for the draft pick that cost us AD and brought us Bender. I really had high hopes for Bender.

Looking back UB may have been right about the AD for #5 pick, but that's a little too easy for me, because what if Bender would have panned out as projected or we would have chosen say Shawn Marion? Than it would have been a great deal to have made.

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I didn't hate the Brad Miller trade itself since it served its purpose of gettting a player in return instead of nothing. However, I hated how we gave away Mercer's and Hedo's favorable contracts for Ferry's ending contract only to sit on it and pay Ferry to enjoy retirement...

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Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
And life itself, rushing over me
Life itself, the wind in black elms,
Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

Re: Pacers trade you hated the most

Second favorite: Pooh, Malik and the draft rights to Piatkowski for Jackson and the later-voided draft rights to Greg Minor.

How did we get Corky Calhoun again? Sure he sucked, but any trade that nets a player named Corky Calhoun deserves honorable mention. I think he was part of the Johnny Davis trade, wasn't he?

Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
And life itself, rushing over me
Life itself, the wind in black elms,
Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you