iccky:I sympathize, because it's encoded in my DNA to kick dumbasses like Pat Robertson in the balls so hard that there's no chance that they'll reproduce and pollute the gene pool any further.

I know I shouldn't. I've been socialized to treat stupid people with compassion, and not to kick them in the balls, despite the primal urge I feel to do it.

But there Pat Robertson is. Such an alluring dumbass. Just saying his dumbass shiat all over the place, on TV for christsake (where kids can watch him!) He's just such a... perfect dumbass... I just find myself fantasizing about how great it would be to kick him in the balls... how much relief I'd feel...

I control myself though. It helps that I don't run into dumbasses like him often in my daily life. Around here most of the dumbasses and decent, and cover up their dumbassedness around others.

But really, suppose I saw Pat Robertson walking down the street and he said one of his dumbass things right to my face and I kicked him in the balls. Whose fault would that be? Mine or his? I think he takes at least some of the blame.

While I recognize that Pat Robinson is bigger dumass that you, his thoughts, at least on this are not way out there.

Pat Robertson, a man who bold-face lies about so many things and is the king of hypocrisy. He's even worse than Rush Limbaugh for the fact that he's not an entertainer, he's a con man. He tricks gullible dupes into willingly giving up their money so he can spew hate speech on TV. I doubt there's a Hell, but if there is, they have a special place reserved just for pricks like him.

I've never cheated anyone I have dated, been cheated on a few times though. It sucks a lot. Current GF is in Nashville taking care of her grandmother wont be back til Julyish. It suuuuucks. But she sends me pics of the sexy outfits she has bought while there. (sigh) July cant get here soon enough!

busy chillin':I've never cheated...that fact won't change if she was standing here. My brother has never cheated. My dad never cheated. I have a bunch of guy friends that have never cheated.

I notice that you speak with a lot of authority about other people. You're either quite creepy, with a vast network of surveillance equipment and too much time on your hands, or incredibly naive. The chance that every male member of your inner group of family and friends has been 100% faithful to their partners is practically zero (female as well).

maybe. I doubt it though. I've just never cheated and wanted to speak up. I seriously can't be alone in this?

I'm with you. Never cheated, never felt the need to. I've had my opportunities, but it seems like a whole lot of work for very little pay off. Plus I'm ridiculously happy in my marriage and sexually satisfied, so other people's genitalia/opposite sex friendships hold little interest.

My husband and I wear each other out...nightly. Neither one of us posses the energy to cheat.

Khellendros:busy chillin': I've never cheated...that fact won't change if she was standing here. My brother has never cheated. My dad never cheated. I have a bunch of guy friends that have never cheated.

I notice that you speak with a lot of authority about other people. You're either quite creepy, with a vast network of surveillance equipment and too much time on your hands, or incredibly naive. The chance that every male member of your inner group of family and friends has been 100% faithful to their partners is practically zero (female as well).

bunch = every in your world? Of course I have friends that have cheated.

I've never cheated either, and can say unequivocally that I won't. I have a great wife and couldn't have done any better. But there was a *brief* period in my late 20s when, due to a perfect storm of circumstances, I was a complete and utter man-whore. I never cheated but that's because I was never actually exclusive with anyone. I think it's because none of them seemed to offer anything I couldn't get anywhere else, so what's the use being exclusive? Of course, I wasn't searching forcommitment, either. It eventually found me. And when it did I knew there was something I didn't want to risk losing so the rest went out the window. And I think that's why some people cheat. They settle down before they realize what's really important. When that initial spark is gone, there damn well be something else there to take its place or you *will* look elsewhere.

I work right beside a Rhea farm. A Rhea is a large ostrich-like bird. yesterday one of them decided it was time to mate. what followed was one of the most violent rapey thing I have ever witnessed. The male began swinging his beak into the female. She was helpless. He knocked her down and continued with a violent beak-pecking turned into a gloating as the male stood on top of the female bird and appeared to dance a jig and gloat to all the other birds in the pen and only then did he go about to dog/bird farking the helpless female bird.. I honestly did not realize this was the mating ritual and yelled out "hey that bird is killing that other bird." boss calmly said its no big deal.

This got me to thinking, how odd this was and thinking that in the human race, this kind of thing is frowned upon.

busy chillin':does this stuff piss anyone else off? I can't be the only guy on here that isn't a cheater? Never done it.

the "we can't control ourselves its in our dna horndog asshole male I can't think of anything but sex all day" image pisses me off.

/breathe

It doesn't bother--excepting his blaming women--we are, as males, absolutely programmed to fark everything that walks. Human women only have one baby at a time, and the mortality rate of our children is astronomically high (without prenatal care--basically which has only existed for 100 years or so). Males do stray more often because of this urge, which is intertwined with our DNA for a survival of the species purpose which frankly is no longer necessary.

munko:I work right beside a Rhea farm. A Rhea is a large ostrich-like bird. yesterday one of them decided it was time to mate. what followed was one of the most violent rapey thing I have ever witnessed. The male began swinging his beak into the female. She was helpless. He knocked her down and continued with a violent beak-pecking turned into a gloating as the male stood on top of the female bird and appeared to dance a jig and gloat to all the other birds in the pen and only then did he go about to dog/bird farking the helpless female bird.. I honestly did not realize this was the mating ritual and yelled out "hey that bird is killing that other bird." boss calmly said its no big deal.

This got me to thinking, how odd this was and thinking that in the human race, this kind of thing is frowned upon.

Wow. So basically, rheas act like giant, extra-violent chickens? You really do learn something new every day...

At least the chicken on chicken violence is sometimes amusing. Such as when a bantam rooster slides off of a standard-sized laying hen before he can finish. At that point, the hen just rolls her eyes and goes on about her business.

munko:I work right beside a Rhea farm. A Rhea is a large ostrich-like bird. yesterday one of them decided it was time to mate. what followed was one of the most violent rapey thing I have ever witnessed. The male began swinging his beak into the female. She was helpless. He knocked her down and continued with a violent beak-pecking turned into a gloating as the male stood on top of the female bird and appeared to dance a jig and gloat to all the other birds in the pen and only then did he go about to dog/bird farking the helpless female bird.. I honestly did not realize this was the mating ritual and yelled out "hey that bird is killing that other bird." boss calmly said its no big deal.

This got me to thinking, how odd this was and thinking that in the human race, this kind of thing is frowned upon.

busy chillin':does this stuff piss anyone else off? I can't be the only guy on here that isn't a cheater? Never done it.

the "we can't control ourselves its in our dna horndog asshole male I can't think of anything but sex all day" image pisses me off.

/breathe

I agree completely.

I came out of a 19 year marriage, many of those years unhappy ones. I ran across at least three or four solid cheating opportunities, with women who were kind to me when my wife was treating me poorly *and* where there was mutual attraction *and* I (and they) were hundreds of miles away from home, and I still didn't cheat. I never so much as kissed another woman during those years even though one or two of those opportunities could have been the start of a happy new life for me.

I chose not to cheat, it's that simple. I never was an uncontrollable robot.

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist:munko: I work right beside a Rhea farm. A Rhea is a large ostrich-like bird. yesterday one of them decided it was time to mate. what followed was one of the most violent rapey thing I have ever witnessed. The male began swinging his beak into the female. She was helpless. He knocked her down and continued with a violent beak-pecking turned into a gloating as the male stood on top of the female bird and appeared to dance a jig and gloat to all the other birds in the pen and only then did he go about to dog/bird farking the helpless female bird.. I honestly did not realize this was the mating ritual and yelled out "hey that bird is killing that other bird." boss calmly said its no big deal.

This got me to thinking, how odd this was and thinking that in the human race, this kind of thing is frowned upon.

It's fairly close to the mating ritual in Danny DeVito's house too.

Funny story...A bunch of years ago, my father and I were sitting on a bench by a pond. This little female duck is going about her business... A male comes running up, takes care of his business, and runs away. He runs back to a pack of other males, and for all intents and purposes high-fives them all. A few minutes later, he came running back down and did it again. He repeated this like 9 times. My father and I were cracking the F up!

munko:I work right beside a Rhea farm. A Rhea is a large ostrich-like bird. yesterday one of them decided it was time to mate. what followed was one of the most violent rapey thing I have ever witnessed. The male began swinging his beak into the female. She was helpless. He knocked her down and continued with a violent beak-pecking turned into a gloating as the male stood on top of the female bird and appeared to dance a jig and gloat to all the other birds in the pen and only then did he go about to dog/bird farking the helpless female bird.. I honestly did not realize this was the mating ritual and yelled out "hey that bird is killing that other bird." boss calmly said its no big deal.

This got me to thinking, how odd this was and thinking that in the human race, this kind of thing is frowned upon.

Isn't control over our baser instincts what elevates man above common beasts? I mean, with the term "civilization" is the whole "civilized" bit. Wanting to stick my schnitzel into the nethers of most females I lay eyes on may be an instinct, but sometimes the urge to smash my wife's head through the wall feels like one, too. This isn't 'Nam, there are rules.

busy chillin':I've never cheated...that fact won't change if she was standing here. My brother has never cheated. My dad never cheated. I have a bunch of guy friends that have never cheated.

How would you truly know? People don't exactly advertise that they've strayed. If Monica hadn't confided in Linda Tripp, what's the likelihood we'd have known about Clinton? If Broadwell hadn't gotten strangely suspicious of whatsername, would we know about Patraeus? The affairs we don't know about likely far outnumber the ones we do.

I've known people who cheated, who I would have thought were the least likely to do so. A *lot* of it is circumstance, a perfect storm of life stresses, inattention from one's partner, and just the wrong person at just the wrong time. (And in those cases, Once a Cheater is *not* always a cheater.)

I would say in classic Internet Generalization that there are basically TWO types of people who commit adultery:

1. The Adulterer who has a desire to fark as many partners as possible without concern for the partner nor their own spouse. This is driven by narcissistic belief that they're entitled to do whatever they want and the "normal rules" do not apply to them. This person will be a serial adulterer and do it no matter what the quality of their marriage. They'll do it after being caught. They'll do it even if they're getting plenty of quality sex at home. This is the "once a cheater; always a cheater."

2. The Adulterer who feels ignored and unloved at home. The spouse no longer farks or if there's farking, it's cold and joyless and loaded with the spouse's conditions, guilt, etc. While many will say, "oh, quit your whining and get a divorce", there is often some compelling reason why divorce is not seen as an option such as children, finances, or family expectations. This person will cheat to find some affection, even if it is fleeting. It may be sequential if a regular partner is not available. It is likely to stop if the spouse begins to express genuine affection in the manner the person needs. If the person divorces the first spouse and remarries a spouse who provides the desired affection, the person is unlikely to cheat again.

Truther:Uncle Pim: Wait... isn't one of the conservative arguments against the homos that they're promiscuous?

Cheating on your wife seems way worse than casual sex.

As a Christian who is conservative I would agree with the statement that breaking the marriage vow is way worse than promiscuous sex.

But I also dont think sex out of wedlock is sinful, and I support marriage equality.

So I am different that way.

/Wanna have sex with different people? Cool - then don't get married.

^this...

I'm a very liberal leaning person, but I consider breaking a marriage vow worse than promiscuous sex. When you're single, who you fark is your business, when you get in a monogamous relationship, you're making a commitment to that person.

Also agree with the "wanna have sex with different people, cool, then don't get married" bit.

As a married person myself, of course you see good looking people and think "what I wouldn't do to murder that pussy", and then you stop yourself from acting on it. I assume that's true with anyone in a committed monogamous relationship. Those feelings to fark good looking people don't just go away, you acting on those urges is what changes.

99.998er:I have dreams about brokering a deal with TNT, TBS, MTV or any broadcaster willing to listen about setting up a pay-per-view cage match between Pat Robertson vs. Salman RushdieGina Carano or Ronda Rousey.

FTFY because fark Pat Robertson. He needs a ass-whupping, and he needs a female to deliver it.

The one thing that makes me mad about the whole "evolution made us to be polygamous, it's in our nature to want to spread our seed as far as possible" is the guys talking about will always wear a condom or if they don't, I guarantee that they will make sure the girl is on some kind of birth control. I doubt there are a lot of mentally healthy men out there that screw a whole bunch of women with the mindset that they're going to make sure they have a diverse next generation, intentionally getting girls pregnant. Are there guys out there like that? Yes, I'm sure but they're not the most successful. Like someone said, if you don't want to settle down with a nice girl fine, just stay single or do the whole friends with benefits thing which is at least better than an open marriage. But admit that you want no strings attached sex, and that there are other male viewpoints. Don't try to make a general insulting statement about all men that they can't control themselves when some obviously can and that you obviously don't want spread your seed if you use freaking birth control when your screwing.