Can anybody dig up one of those 1960s civics books. I was taught in the 60s via my civics class, That the pres and vice pres have to be natural born citizens. A natural born citizen was defined in 1960 Civic books as a child whose parents were both US citizens at the time of the childs birth.O is eligible to run for any office except Prez or VP. Not sure about speaker of the house, since it is part of the succession line in case something happens.

AND ONCE AGAIN THE FUCKING BIRTHER LIES. My argument is not "based on name calling and compromised emotions." IT IS BASED UPON FACT.

FACT ONE: BORN IN THE US, NATURAL BORN CITIZENFACT TWO: YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE INDONESIAN TO GO TO SCHOOL IN INDONESIA.

MORON. STOP FUCKING AROUND WITH LIES

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14293767

No, AC-67. That is not correct. BOTH of his parents must be American Citizens for Obama to be classified as Natural Born.

What part of this is so hard for you to understand? And like Fatal said, even Romney doesn't meet the eligibility requirements to hold the office of the Presidency because both of his parents are not Citizens.

Quoting: Éireann

ONCE AGAIN BIRTHER FUCKING LIES. IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT. I FUCKING UNDERSTAND THE LIE. THE LIE IS NOT TRUE. JUST BECAUSE YOU SAY IT DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE.

FUCKING LIAR, YOU LIED MANY TIMES IN THIS THREAD. FUCK OFF LIAR

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14293767

It's so fun dealing with people like this.

Emotion is a funny thing. I bet you are so mad you are throwing things and talking about how stupid we are.

Purple faced and enraged.

Natural born, naturalization.....even if he was born in Hawaii 2 years after it became a state, the birth certificate they provided was a fraud.

It's been proven I don't know how many times.

That fact that it is fake only leads to more questions.

The fact remains, only his parents know where he was born, because we sure as hell don't.

Quoting: FatalW1shes

yeah that is funny, I can see it fists clenched, stomping around, cursing, powerless. LOL

Totally Eirann, don't worry this flea flicker is just a lapdog and you got through to me with your Statement:

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Can anybody dig up one of those 1960s civics books. I was taught in the 60s via my civics class, That the pres and vice pres have to be natural born citizens. A natural born citizen was defined in 1960 Civic books as a child whose parents were both US citizens at the time of the childs birth.O is eligible to run for any office except Prez or VP. Not sure about speaker of the house, since it is part of the succession line in case something happens.

There are distinctively different legal definitions for Citizen, Naturalized Citizen and Natural Born Citizen.

The 14th Amendment only deals with Citizens. You are automatically a citizen if you are born in the US. You are NOT automatically a "natural born citizen" by the same virtue.

I guess most people were sleeping during their history classes. *shrugs*

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2765793

Birthers fail here -- just because they MAKE UP A DISTINCTION does not mean it is how the US sees it. This is just birther bullshit repeated many times, but never ONCE found in a book. Why? Because it is bullshit and a fucking lie.

Can anybody dig up one of those 1960s civics books. I was taught in the 60s via my civics class, That the pres and vice pres have to be natural born citizens. A natural born citizen was defined in 1960 Civic books as a child whose parents were both US citizens at the time of the childs birth.O is eligible to run for any office except Prez or VP. Not sure about speaker of the house, since it is part of the succession line in case something happens.

There are distinctively different legal definitions for Citizen, Naturalized Citizen and Natural Born Citizen.

The 14th Amendment only deals with Citizens. You are automatically a citizen if you are born in the US. You are NOT automatically a "natural born citizen" by the same virtue.

I guess most people were sleeping during their history classes. *shrugs*

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2765793

Birthers fail here -- just because they MAKE UP A DISTINCTION does not mean it is how the US sees it. This is just birther bullshit repeated many times, but never ONCE found in a book. Why? Because it is bullshit and a fucking lie.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14293767

If there aren't different definitions why do we have a Citizens, Naturalized citizen and Natural Born citizens? Why not just call everyone citizens?

"The Supreme Court clearly established who was a “natural born citizen” in the case Minor v. Happersett (1874). Justice Gray thoroughly discussed the definition of “natural born citizen” in his review of the Minor case. The Supreme Court in Minor adopted the Laws of Nations definition of “natural born citizen” as being a person born in the United States to “citizen parents” –” this definition does not include Mr. Barack H. Obama, Jr., because his father was not a United States Citizen."

No, AC-67. That is not correct. BOTH of his parents must be American Citizens for Obama to be classified as Natural Born.

What part of this is so hard for you to understand? And like Fatal said, even Romney doesn't meet the eligibility requirements to hold the office of the Presidency because both of his parents are not Citizens.

Quoting: Éireann

ONCE AGAIN BIRTHER FUCKING LIES. IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT. I FUCKING UNDERSTAND THE LIE. THE LIE IS NOT TRUE. JUST BECAUSE YOU SAY IT DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE.

FUCKING LIAR, YOU LIED MANY TIMES IN THIS THREAD. FUCK OFF LIAR

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14293767

It'd so fun dealing with people like this.

Emotion is a funny thing. I bet you are so mad you are throwing things and talking about how stupid we are.

Purple faced and enraged.

Natural born, naturalization.....even if he was born in Hawaii 2 years after it became a state, the birth certificate they provided was a fraud.

It's been proven I don't know how many times.

That fact that it is fake only leads to more questions.

The fact remains, only his parents know where he was born, because we sure as hell don't.

Quoting: FatalW1shes

No, people who hate Obama have claimed it is a forgery. It has not been proven. No forensic experts have said it is a forgery, only dumbasses who have been proven wrong in their accusations. Fuck off birther. You fail and fail and fail. Your thread is a lie and you don't give a damn. You fail fail fail fucking fail

"The Supreme Court clearly established who was a “natural born citizen” in the case Minor v. Happersett (1874). Justice Gray thoroughly discussed the definition of “natural born citizen” in his review of the Minor case. The Supreme Court in Minor adopted the Laws of Nations definition of “natural born citizen” as being a person born in the United States to “citizen parents” –” this definition does not include Mr. Barack H. Obama, Jr., because his father was not a United States Citizen."

for what it's worth, this is from his link

Quoting: xxl

And for what it is worth, this shows how birthers fucking misrepresent things. This was a claim which got proven FALSE. Fucking birther, fucking liar, fucking asshole

ONCE AGAIN BIRTHER FUCKING LIES. IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT. I FUCKING UNDERSTAND THE LIE. THE LIE IS NOT TRUE. JUST BECAUSE YOU SAY IT DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE.

FUCKING LIAR, YOU LIED MANY TIMES IN THIS THREAD. FUCK OFF LIAR

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14293767

It'd so fun dealing with people like this.

Emotion is a funny thing. I bet you are so mad you are throwing things and talking about how stupid we are.

Purple faced and enraged.

Natural born, naturalization.....even if he was born in Hawaii 2 years after it became a state, the birth certificate they provided was a fraud.

It's been proven I don't know how many times.

That fact that it is fake only leads to more questions.

The fact remains, only his parents know where he was born, because we sure as hell don't.

Quoting: FatalW1shes

No, people who hate Obama have claimed it is a forgery. It has not been proven. No forensic experts have said it is a forgery, only dumbasses who have been proven wrong in their accusations. Fuck off birther. You fail and fail and fail. Your thread is a lie and you don't give a damn. You fail fail fail fucking fail

There are distinctively different legal definitions for Citizen, Naturalized Citizen and Natural Born Citizen.

The 14th Amendment only deals with Citizens. You are automatically a citizen if you are born in the US. You are NOT automatically a "natural born citizen" by the same virtue.

I guess most people were sleeping during their history classes. *shrugs*

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2765793

Birthers fail here -- just because they MAKE UP A DISTINCTION does not mean it is how the US sees it. This is just birther bullshit repeated many times, but never ONCE found in a book. Why? Because it is bullshit and a fucking lie.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14293767

If there aren't different definitions why do we have a Citizens, Naturalized citizen and Natural Born citizens? Why not just call everyone citizens?

There's obviously some kind of distinction.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1061562

Citizen is a class which has natural born and naturalized. Naturalized is anyone who becomes a citizen that wasn't born a citizen. BIRTHERS PROVE THEY ARE MORONS WHEN THEY REPEAT THIS QUESTION