A new poll shows that they do. At least about World Trade Center Building 7.

We’re not talking about the Twin Towers … although Building 7 was part of the same complex. No planes hit Building 7, no one was killed when Building 7 fell, no wars were launched on the basis of Building 7, and no civil rights were lost because of the destruction of Building 7.

In other words, Building 7 is a “safe topic” we can discuss without heated emotion. And numerous high-level architects and engineers have already debunked the government’s claims.

On the 12th anniversary of 9/11, a new national survey by the polling firm YouGov reveals that one in two Americans have doubts about the government’s account of 9/11, and after viewing video footage of World Trade Center Building 7’s collapse, 46% suspect that it was caused by a controlled demolition. Building 7, a 47-story skyscraper, collapsed into its own footprint late in the afternoon on 9/11.

The poll was sponsored by ReThink911, a global public awareness campaign launched on September 1. The campaign includes a 54-foot billboard in Times Square and a variety of transit and outdoor advertising in 11 other cities, all posing the question, “Did you know a third tower fell on 9/11?”

Among the poll’s findings:

38% of Americans have some doubts about the official account of 9/11, 10% do not believe it at all, and 12% are unsure about it;

46%, nearly one in two, are not aware that a third tower collapsed on 9/11. Of those who are aware of Building 7’s collapse, only 19% know the building’s name;

After seeing video footage of Building 7′s collapse:

46% are sure or suspect it was caused by controlled demolition, compared to 28% who are sure or suspect fires caused it, and 27% who don’t know; [in other words, more people think controlled demolition than believe the government’s narrative]

By a margin of nearly two to one, 41% support a new investigation of Building 7′s collapse, compared to 21% who oppose it.

30-Second Video Shown to 1,194 Survey Respondents:

“The poll shows quite clearly what we already knew. Most people who see Building 7’s collapse have trouble believing that fires brought it down,” said Richard Gage, a member of the American Institute of Architects and founder of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, the campaign’s major sponsor. “It simply doesn’t look like a natural building collapse, and that’s because all the columns have been removed at once to allow it to come down symmetrically in free-fall. The evidence of controlled demolition is overwhelming. As more and more people learn about Building 7, public demand for a new investigation grows. People want the truth.”

According to the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), normal office fires caused the failure of a single column, starting a chain reaction that brought Building 7 down. More than 2,000 architects and engineers have signed the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth petition that questions NIST’s explanation of the building’s collapse.

“Even the government’s own computer model disproves its theory. It looks nothing like the actual collapse,” said Tony Szamboti, a mechanical engineer from the Philadelphia area. “Not only that, they refuse to release the data that would allow us to verify their model. In the world of science, this is as bad as it gets. I’m glad most people can look at the collapse and see the obvious.”

The ReThink911 campaign calls for a new investigation into Building 7’s collapse, as well as the destruction of the Twin Towers. The YouGov poll and the ad campaign were financed with more than $225,000 in donations from thousands of supporters.

All figures, unless otherwise stated, are from YouGov Plc. Total sample size was 1194 adults. Fieldwork was undertaken between 27th – 29th August 2013. The survey was carried out online. The figures have been weighted and are representative of all US adults (aged 18+).

I’m sure Marvin Bush can help you out………. Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, Burns noted, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Burns also
served… read more….. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911security.html

Albury Smith

Securacom furnished & installed electronic surveillance equipment at the WTC and Marvin Bush WAS a board member of Securacom until June of 2000, i.e. ~15 months before the al Qaeda suicide attacks of 9/11. The PAPD ran WTC security, not contractors.

freefall acceleration – as acknowledged begrudgingly by nist… work on that chuckles

what is the opposite to truth? you think lies are funny? hilarious.

Albury Smith

Here’s video of a real C/D:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79sJ1bMR6VQ
Using your cause-divining junk science, tell me just by measuring the acceleration at various stages which floors collapsed because of explosives and which ones solely or almost solely from gravity. Since you’re a top C/D expert, I’m sure you know that explosives aren’t planted on every column on every floor in real explosive demolitions.
NIST didn’t “begrudgingly” acknowledge the ~2.25 seconds at g for WTC 7’s EXTERIOR; it just isn’t that significant to competent structural engineers, and is fully explained by the framing details and collapse progression.

Jack

dont need you to tell me what a real cd looks like idiot.. the world saw that on 911.. try keep up stupid – your pathetic attempt to steer away from talking about freefall acceleration is noted.. not a fan of the implications are you dumdum..

Albury Smith

You do need me to tell you what a real C/D looks like, idiot. Landmark Tower was one; the WTC hi-rises weren’t. “try keep up stupid.”

I don’t get you point? Are you saying fire did what explosives and incendiary’s could not?
Or are you simply saying Gage’s model sucks?

Do me a favor. Explain away 100ft of freefall.

Albury Smith

WTC 7’s EXTERIOR collapsed at g for ~2.25 seconds. The NIST model and collapse progression clearly show why there was no MEASURABLE resistance from t=1.75 to t=4 seconds. The interior was already collapsing, so g could theoretically have been EXCEEDED for part of that time. Cause divining building collapses by their acceleration is stupid.
Gage and his model both suck, and I’ve suggested a simple and straightforward way to demonstrate his “theory.”

Ok almost started buying it till you said G was exceeded. But what mechanism would that happen? You forget about Galileo or something?

I also know the NIST report has omissions and erroneous elements of crucial data. Those omissions and “errors” are specifically in regard to the structural elements that , according to NIST, where involved in collapse.

Which brings me to another point.
Scientific fraud is at EPIDEMIC proportions. The NIST report is a prime example of it.

The thing about “scientific theories” is that all that needs to be done is to falsify ONE essential fact. Unless it can be shown that the deviation is a special case the theory is wrong.

9/11 has more “special cases” than any other phenomena known to man.

Albury Smith

The interior framing was connected to the exterior and had already been falling for ~10 seconds before the exterior began collapsing. If you don’t understand how g could’ve been exceeded for part of the time, take a physics course.
The NIST reports are accepted by the ASCE, NCSEA, SEI, RIBA, AIA, structuremag.org, ENR, Journal of Engineering Mechanics, etc. Box Boy and his clowns are ignored by all of them.

What you no proposing is impossible if rigidly connected. If not rigidly connected where does the slack come from? I guess the interior was built like an accordion … Also ,There is no observable positive jerk . Try again.

I don’t care who NIST reports are accepted by. Pleas to authority are a logical fallacy. As are strawmen , pleas to majority and ad hominims. I think you’;ve covered them all.

As I suggested before, take a physics course. Real SEs don’t divine the causes of building collapses by their acceleration, and part the ~2.25 seconds at free fall for WTC 7’s EXTERIOR could actually have exceeded g. The W14 X 500 exterior columns were 100% moment connected to spandrel beams, so they could only all stand or all collapse together, and once they buckled in unison at t=1.75 seconds, the falling interior framing could have added to the acceleration.

I’ve suggested that Box Boy and his “experts” show us on video with audio how W14 X 730 columns are secretly cut with explosives or incendiaries (he can’t make up his mind which imaginary substance it was), so it’s he who could learn something from Feynman.

I don’t know what gave you the idea I confused anything. You don’t see any equations do you?

They only one mentioning the gravitational constant is you.
You made the ridiculous claim elements of the building exceeded g.
There is no way for this to happen if the elements are rigidly connected.

That only leaves a couple scenarios that would be such a sheer fantasy I know you won’t go there,

The fact is this, elements of the building fell at free fall acceleration for over 100 ft.

That means 100 ft of the vertical building was missing.

As far as your assertion that Se’s don’t divine the cause of collapse by their accelertaion, you are 100% correct.

They go over the physical evidence and do experiments and tests on that evidence.

You know as well as everyone else that the evidence was disappeared.
There is plenty of Congressional testimony to this fact. They only verifiable piece of evidence with a secure chain of custody was the appendix C FEMA samples.

I don’t think you want to go there .
Unless you really feel like debating how diesel fuel caused a eutectic reaction that caused intergranular melting and corrosion of the WTC steel.

Maybe NIST can incorporate that in to their computer model too.

Albury Smith

“g” and “G” are two separate constants, genius. There were plenty of SEAoNY, PANYNJ, FEMA BPAT, NSF, etc. structural engineers at the site during the 8 months of cleanup, and Stevie Wonder would’ve seen C/D evidence on the steel. It wouldn’t have been 2 rusty pieces with odd corrosion that no one could figure out; it would’ve been 1000s of explosively-cut columns. There are still plenty of pieces of steel in a hangar at JFK and at NIST’s HQ in Gaithersburg, MD. Chemically testing it for whatever would be a total waste of time. The majority of it was shipped out as it was being removed from the pile because it’s worth ~$100.ton and would cost a fortune to move and store unnecessarily.
Divining the cause of a building collapse by timing it is just plain stupid. The ~2.25 seconds at g was for WTC 7’s EXTERIOR, which could actually have exceeded free fall, since the interior was already collapsing. Try your cause-divining crap on this real C/D:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79sJ1bMR6VQ
and tell me which floors collapsed because of explosives and which ones solely from gravity.
Stick to Supersizing™ Happy Meals™ for your customers and leave forensic
structural engineering to competent and experienced SEs

Please issue a correction for “no one was killed when Building 7 fell”

A Secret Service agent (Craig Miller) was killed in building 7. It’s in the Congressional Record, reported in the news and was on the US Treasury website.

biggestbird

Barry Jennings, the asst. to Giuliani’s Emergency Magmt. leader; the same one that dropped dead right before he was supposed to testify before NIST was in the building when the explosions went off and as he came down through the powerless, dark hallways and out through a hole in the wall created by the explosion and was “stepping over the BODIES”. That being said, I read this rather quickly, but I read the premise that no wars were started over bldg. 7; it’s all based as if the entire complex was just the Twin Towers. This was an afterthought destroyed to destroy evidence contained within and better ignored, hence little time or effort was spent on trying to explain or justify why it came down. It was the left hand of the right-handed illusionist!

Albury Smith

Here’s an example of a real controlled demolition:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79sJ1bMR6VQ
What a pity the people of Dallas/Ft. Worth didn’t have a “whistle blower” like Barry Jennings to tell them that demolition explosives were detonated, innit?

ReThink 9/11: The Truth That Could Still Unravel an Empire of Lies…. Though this subject matter has been heavily trodden already by many courageous individuals concerned about the truth, it remains – 12 years after the fact – critical that anyone who doesn’t want to go on blindly as a victim in this world to confront this evidence and awaken to a realization, however harsh, that we are living through a dangerous worldof the unreal…. http://www.activistpost.com/2013/09/rethink-911-truth-that-could-still.html

The one thing that i remember the most clearly over the
past 40 years of my school days at Brandeis University in 1970’s are my
student adviser’s words that when he was growing up that his grand
parents and parents used the term “‘goyishe kup,’” meaning that the
“Non-Jews are Stupid”
Later in life I learned that the exact translation of “GOYISHE KUP” means that the “Cattle are STUPID”..
I
remember him recalling whatt his father told him when he was growing up
in Eastern Europe. One of them being that when his father was in high
school he and a group of friends would skip school early on Fridays and
go over to his friend’s father’s butcher shop. That they would buy at
cost any cows , that had not been butchered by the end of the day on
Friday before the start of shabat . They would take the cow home and
wash it and then the boys would procede to “beat the udders of the cows
so that they would swell up and turn pink” so as to sell them to the
“GOYISHE KUP” as milk producing cows.
The part that I remember
him asking me if the East Europeans are so naive, so gullible and so
stupid to buy old “non milk producing cows” from a bunch of young Jewish
Boys.
So thinking of it now I agree with the Jewish saying that
the “GOYISHE KUP” are indeed” Stupid” as they believe that a Bunch of
Arab Moslem Kids who were not able to Fly a Cessna Airplane took it upon
themselves to FLY a Jumbo 747 and outwitted the US Militaryand Civilian
authorities. The “Jewish Lightning Insurance Scam” of the 1960’s is
still alive and well has been put to good use by Larry Silverstein in
putting 15 million down and comming out with 7 billion dollars for
buidings that no one wanted to buy because it would have cost a billion
dollars to remove the asbestos from. Then on top of that the people in
America actually believe that they actually decide who is elected
President or for that that actual VOTE is really counted and makes a
difference in deciding who represents them in the White House and
congress.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dfc5F2pQeg

Yeh I agree that the AmericanNon-Jews are indeed American “GOYISHE KUP” or “STUPID CATTLE”!

gozounlimited

Phooey! fooey, pfui pavolyeh petseleh (yiddishkeit)

Albury Smith

One hijacker in each crew (Atta, al-Shehhi, Hanjour, Jarrah) had an FAA commercial pilot certificate earned for training in Boeing cockpit simulators for wide-bodied twins, i.e. 737s, 757s, 767s…not Cessnas or the jumbo 747s. There was NO asbestos problem in any WTC building; WTC 7 was built LONG after the code revision, the South Tower wasn’t closed in until after the code changed, and only 38 floors of the North Tower had any at all, most of which had been abated during tenant fit-outs before 2001.
What is the point of lying about a deadly al Qaeda suicide attack on the US?

Mike215

According to the 911 Commission Report, they were trained in simulators, but because they kept failing their written tests (in English) they were not allowed to actually fly any planes. Yet the report goes on that their flying abilities were so good you would think they were the Blue Angels: cut all voice communication, change the navigation computers where they could divert the planes 500 miles from their original course and hit their targets with great accuracy.
For people who could not understand English, yet were taking courses in flight schools where they kept failing their tests AND NEVER ACTUALLY FLEW AN AIRPLANE, they did pretty well where tehy could be regarded as members of the Blue Angels.

Albury Smith

YOU might think they were the Blue Angels, but all they had to do was navigate and steer already-airborne Boeing wide-bodied twins in perfect VFR weather conditions into huge targets using nothing more than the skills gained in their cockpit simulator training. They also spoke adequate English and understood it, didn’t cut off all voice communication (which requires flipping a switch), and overrode the autopilot navigation so they could steer manually.
Flying an actual airplane requires takeoff and landing skills, and they didn’t have or need them. Doesn’t it strike you as odd that they picked flight training of airliners as a hobby with no intention of becoming pilots? I think your imaginary evildoers picked great “patsies.”

Mike215

According to commission report, the flight schools thought that these Muslims were so stupid that they would not even allow them to fly a single engine Piper Cub. You are telling me actually flying skills are not necessary to carry out their suicide mission.
I remember watching a history channel program about training of tank crewmen on simulators. The officer in charge told them their experiences mean nothing until they actually get into a tank. The same could be said about these aircraft simulators.

Albury Smith

All four were crappy pilots who lacked the necessary qualifications to rent Cessnas and other small aircraft and fly them unsupervised, and none of them could hang glide or do a triple Salchow/triple toe loop either. It does not take great aviation skills to steer and navigate an already-airborne 767 or 757 into a huge target in perfect VFR weather conditions after basic training in cockpit simulators for those models.
What al Qaeda member or relative of one has denied the mainstream account of their 9/11/2001 Planes Operation suicide attacks on the evil US infidel in the last 13 years?

Mike215

When you claim that non English speaking Muslim who failed all tests in their aviation schools and were not allowed even to fly a Piper Cub would have no problem in flying a jet airliner 500 miles off course and hit its target with great accuracy. And you may wonder why nearly 60% of the people in recent polls do not believe the 911 commission report.

Albury Smith

When did I or any other honest and knowledgeable person ever claim that the 9/11 hijacker/pilots were non-English speaking, and why is flying 500 miles off course so difficult to do? Thousands of pilots hit the exact centerlines of runways every day, so why do you think hitting huge buildings is so remarkable in perfect weather conditions? If you owned a Piper Cub, would you rent it to an inexperienced pilot who’d never trained in taking off and landing one?
Do United & American Airlines and Boeing question the mainstream account of the 9/11/2001 al Qaeda suicide attacks on the US? WHAT in the 9/11 Commission Report don’t these alleged “60% of people” believe?

Mike215

The 911 Commission Report (see google) stated that nearly all of the hijackers came from rural areas in the Middle East and most did not even know how to read and write in their own languages, and that is why the kept failing all the written tests in the aviation schools and not allowed to fly any airplanes. But the Report goes on to claim that the airplane simulators made up for all this lack of knowledge anf made them into pilots as good the Blue Angels.
Of course recent polls show that over 60% of the American public do not believe this report, which forget to mention that Building 7 collapsed even though it was not hit.

Albury Smith

What damaged or destroyed NYC buildings other than the WTC towers are mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report (that you’ve obviously never read)?

Blackwater33

Assberry the lying loser with no friends that will protect the Zionist fisters at any cost

Then why did the 911 Commission Report did not even mention the collapse of Building 7?

Albury Smith

Have you ever considered actually reading the 9/11 Commission Report instead of just asking foolish questions about it? The Commission members were not forensic structural engineers, and even a brief look at the contents page should tell you that reporting the collateral damage to nearby NYC buildings wasn’t in the scope of their investigation.
Read the bios on the hijacker/pilots you keep lying about too. All 4 had FAA commercial pilot certificates and at least 3 of the 4 had attended college.

Mike215

The Report is complete fiction. See 911 Commission Report 28 missing pages. They were taken out by Bush and are still secret. They deal with foreign governments actually controlling the attacks. If that is true, then the hijackers were government agents and not a bunch of peasants.

Albury Smith

If they’re secret, then how do you know what’s in them? Al Qaeda doesn’t disagree with the 9/11 Commission Report, so why don’t you enlighten them?

Mike215

Where does it state that Al Qaeda does not disagree with this report? Mean these terrorists actually sit down and documented the fact that the report is telling the truth. So the criminals are running the prison? That is a great source.

Albury Smith

If you were being hunted dead or alive by the most powerful military on earth for something you didn’t do, you’d mention it to the media at every opportunity. Al Qaeda brags about their 9/11 Planes Operation suicide attacks on the evil US infidel and threatens more of them.

Mike215

Al Qaeda hates the US and the West so they just took advantage of the publicity about 911 knowing they were not responsible and the country really responsible, Israel, would never admit it.

Albury Smith

So your al Qaeda heroes just like being hunted and killed by the evil US? You’re spewing nonsense.

Lucretius

Uh, you fucking moron. Al Qaeda does not brag about that initially. In fact, before the CIA faked the “Osama” video–which is now fact, Bin Laden clearly stated in many videos that he had nothing to do with that. Only after it seemed to help their cause did they all start taking credit. It could be used to help their agenda, so they decided to lie. But–as is normal–at first they told the truth. In fact, you nitwit, Afghanistan told the USA that if you provide us evidence, we will give him to you. Of course, America couldn’t do that.

Do your research.

Mike215

Saudi Arabia wants the secret 28 pages released to the public because they know they were innocent in these attacks. Meanwhile, Jewish groups have been fighting to keep them secret. So what does it tell you?

Albury Smith

It tells me that you just invent your own fantasies.

Mike215

You think I am making up the missing 28 pages of the Report? Then look up “911 Commission Report missing 28 pages ” on google and read the articles for yourself.

Albury Smith

You made up the part about SA wanting the pages released and da Joos “fighting to keep them secret.” You’re also fantasizing about why the pages weren’t released. Since the 9/11 Commission Report is all about al Qaeda, what do they think of it?

Mike215

“What does al Qaeda thinks about the report.?” It is like asking a dog why he does his thing on the sidewalk instead of the street. The dog will bark and continue to do his thing on the sidewalk. You get the same response from al Qaeda.

Albury Smith

What response have you gotten from al Qaeda? If da Joos did their 9/11 Planes Operation suicide attacks in the US, why would they want to be hunted and killed by the evil US infidel for it?

Mike215

If you look up the articles on google, “911 Commission Report missing 28 pages” to see the speculation on which country was in charge of 911/ There are two choices: Saudi Arabia and Israel, but that chose is still secret.

Albury Smith

It’s neither. Duh.

Blackwater33

Same old asshole Assberry…. spewing the same shit that proves jack shit

Mike215

That is amazing that hijackers who do not know English and could not even read or write in their own language were able to understand the complex electronics of those airliners. So they could read the control the computer screens but they could keep bringing up the correct screens to run the airliner.
That is amazing! I am a college graduate and I cannot understand the displays on those airliners, much less bringing up the correct info. The 911 Commission Report makes the Warren Commission Report look sane and rational. At least they mention Oswald’s name.

Albury Smith

The 9/11 Commission Report names all 19 of the 9/11 hijackers. It truly “is amazing that hijackers who do not know English and could not even read or write in their own language were able to” get FAA commercial pilot certificates and order the passengers and flight attendants around.

Mike215

Since the hijackers did not know English and could not real or write in their own language, how did the work the simulators?

Albury Smith

All 4 hijacker/pilots had FAA commercial pilot certificates, so please notify the FAA that they were unqualified to have them. Look up their educational backgrounds instead of lying about them. At least 3 of the 4 had college backgrounds, and all 4 could communicate sufficiently in English. Muhammad Atta was recorded speaking clear English to the passengers of AA 11.

Mike215

I do not know how they got their certificates, but they fail the written tests in the schools and were not allowed to fly any planes as a result.

Albury Smith

Written tests on what? They were very inexperienced pilots who knew nothing about taking off and landing airliners, but didn’t need to know that on 9/11. Ask the FAA if you don’t know what an FAA commercial pilot certificate is.

Mike215

Look up p.242 of the 911 Report where two of the pilots tried to make practice runs up and down the Hudson valley in rented planes with instructors Two of thee pilots were totally incompetent as pilots with very bad piloting skills. They were so bad the instructors refused to fly with them. Yet the Report tells us they had no problem piloting the airliners hundreds of miles off course and perfectly hitting their targets like the Blue Angels.

Albury Smith

Who has ever claimed that Atta, al-Shehhi, Hanjour, and Jarrah were good pilots? Why do you think it takes the Blue Angels to crash already airborne planes into enormous buildings that can be seen for more than 50 miles? They knew how to steer and navigate 767s and 757s, and that’s all they needed to do.

Mike215

I just found out that the Commission Report is all lies. See 911 Commission Report 28 missing pages. 28 pages were taken out of the Report by Bush and are still secret. They blame foreign governments for the attacks, but they do not mention which ones because that is still secret. Speculation is that it is either Saudi or Israel. Anyway, if a government sponsored these attacks, then everything we have been told are lies.

If the report says that hijackers were trained government agents working directly for a foreign government then everything else in the Report cannot be trusted, especially if Israel was the country behind the attack.

Albury Smith

That isn’t what the 9/11 Commission Report says, so your hypothetical is meaningless. I’d suggest reading it before offering all of this spurious conjecture.

Mike215

The 28 missing pages of the Report dealt with the role of a foreign power in the attacks. The name of that country is being kept secret and that is what all the screaming is about. See 911 Commission Report 28 missing pages on google.

Albury Smith

The pages apparently dealt with foreign ENTITIES, not nations, that may have aided al Qaeda in its Planes Operation suicide attacks on the evil US infidel, and there are both political and intelligence concerns in publicly releasing every detail. They most likely included wealthy Saudi, Yemeni, and other M.E. Arabs. If any nation other than the Taliban government in Afghanistan was complicit in the slightest, it was Iran.

Mike215

IF the hijackers are trained government agents taking direct orders from foreign government then the rest of the report is meaningless. We are dealing now with an act of war not a simple terrorist attack.

Albury Smith

Al Qaeda was/is not government-affiliated. Saudi Arabia banished OBL in the early ’90s and Israel doesn’t suicide attack its most powerful ally.

Mike215

The report said that a government such as Saudi Arabia or Israel was actually in charge of the attacks. As Qaeda had nothing to do with it. As for Israel being in charge, read about they tried to sink the USS Liberty and kill everybody on board. See THE DAY ISRAEL ATTACKED THE US on google. Even in World War II German subs never machine gun the lifeboats which the Israel gun boats tried to do. The out did the Nazis and 911 could be traced back to the attack on our ship because the Israelis responsible were never brought to justice.

Albury Smith

If Israel “tried to sink the USS Liberty and kill everybody on board,” then WHY DIDN’T THEY SUCCEED? Why does every US president and congress since 1967 believe that it was mistaken identity? Read & learn:http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/369

Tiernan Astronskas

You need to get over yourself…. If it’s not already evidence of controlled demolition that the Twin Towers fell in their own Footprint, then I think the Fall of the WTC 7 should’ve convinced you that maybe something is up. I know, you’re one of those people who think the government is the all mighty truthful, but you gotta open your eyes and see that these “terrorists” werent behind this attack. But you’ll probably blow this comment off and type some bullshit answer so you feel like you defended your answer, and that’s fine. You probably believe that the pentagon was hit by a 747 too…. Well I’m just going to let you think this one out a little. The largest, most advanced military in the world let 2 Airliners fly into the Twin Towers because of “faulty coordinates.” So why are we spending 700 billion dollars on our military if people can just fly planes into US government buildings… Please, I beg you think about this, it’s insane how I’m literally slapping you in the face with evidence and you’ll probably deny it. Its like if a guy walks up to somebody and stabs them and records it, shows it to police, and the police say “no that’s not right, I believe you didn’t do it.”

Albury Smith

The Pentagon was hit by a hijacked American Airlines 757, genius, and the WTC towers collapsed because of the fires and 767 damage. No one “let” these people suicide attack the US on 9/11/2001:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW8_Zbsirdwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWVC4JBjtEEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6obQ5naNn0
From OBL’s 1998 (second) fatwa: “The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies-civilians and military-is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty God, ‘and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together,’ and ‘fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God [blah, blah, blah…]'”

Hi – don’t waste your time with that prick. He’s not here to listen or debate anything. He’s just a full-time bullshit billboard with a script of talking points to push – paid to attempt to keep the official lie alive for as long as possible.

His reputation of the internet is somewhere south of dogshit on a shoe – and he will try and engage people into lengthy & circular conversations that lead nowhere.

It contains many questions to debunkers – that none of the paid pro official story shills will go near or discuss.

While they will claim they have already answered these questions – they will remain unable to do so publicly.

Albury Smith

His reputation with whom?

scott_ewing

Google yourself, dickhead.

It doesn’t look good.

,,I,,

Albury Smith

Why would I care what 9/11 truther nuts think of me?

scott_ewing

Well if I were you (glad I’m not) I would be more concerned about your diminishing effectiveness as a disingenuous, intellectually dishonest, cut’n’paste disinfo fuckhole – because more and more of the people that you are willfully attempting to deceive on a continuous basis – are now more able to see you for exactly what you are.

Which is awesome, frankly. 🙂

What about all the unanswered questions to debunkers in this doco that you keep publicly ignoring – claiming that you have already answered/debunked them

Sorry albury – but no. I’ve heard it all before from you and your disinfo script of bullshit talking points is tired and ineffective now. If you can’t or won’t consider the information and questions in this docohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEkVsj88Xsg﻿
then then you don’t have the right to call people delusional

– you cut’n’paste psyops shill disinfo mouthpiece prick.

Albury Smith

How many FDNY quote mined there for the word “explosion” claimed to have heard DEMOLITION explosiVES and linked the loud bangs inside the burning buildings to any of the 3 WTC hi-rise collapses? How many FDNY are 9/11 truther nuts?
There are PLENTY of sources of “explosions” in fires, including BLEVEs, flashovers, backdrafts, gas tanks & cylinders blowing up, shorted transformers (WTC 7 was built over a ConEd substation), debris falling ~1200′ through express elevator shafts, and fuel vapor igniting in confined spaces.
You play with yourself.

scott_ewing

Sorry, albury. Your scripted talking points just don’t work on people anymore.
The questions in this doco
(the ones you have been steadily pretending don’t exist)
await you :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEkVsj88Xsg﻿
(and don’t say you have answered them already – because you haven’t – and you will continue to refuse to do so publicly)

oh just your cut’n’paste disinfo again and again?
The questions in the doco above
(the ones you have been steadily pretending don’t exist)
await you.
And don’t say that you have already answered them.
You haven’t done so, albury
– and can’t do so publicly.

All you are doing is smearing people albury. As if doing so can somehow
make those 3 buildings fall more slowly and less symmetrically.

Albury Smith

You’re lying about all 3 collapse times and can’t explain why the collapses shouldn’t have been (roughly) symmetrical. Take a basic physics course, you gullible sap.

scott_ewing

But albury I didn’t mention the collapse times – and before you reach for another red herring out of your bag of misdirective cut’n’paste crap shallow talking points – the questions in the ae911 edit of the New Pearl Harbour doco above

(the ones you have been steadily pretending don’t exist)
await you.
And don’t say that you have already answered them.
You haven’t done so, albury
– and can’t do so publicly.
So answer them – you willfully disingenuous little prick – before you call someone a ‘gullible sap’
Start with the first one.

Yep … and the questions in the documentary to debunkers that remain publicly unanswered by you
(or by anyone else that still thinks Arabs did this)
that you are still steadily and continuously ignoring?
Which people reading this can see you doing?
Answer the questions in the doco, smartypants.
Show everyone just how awesome your amazing intellect is.
Here it is again – so you don’t have to scroll up to look for it :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEkVsj88Xsg

Your ongoing and public inability answer any of the rebuttal questions to debunkers (that’s you) in the ae911 edit of The New Pearl Harbor
– to has nothing to do with your inane and repetitive nothing red herrings.
Answer the questions in the doco – or take a hike.

Have you heard about Jessie Evans, Scott? He was only 27 years old, just asking questions about the WTC collapses, and…………..KABOOM!!!!!!
Poor Jessie:http://www.duffelblog.com/2013/09/911-truther-killed/
PLEASE be EXTRA careful around hi-rise buildings! How terribly tragic…

scott_ewing

How does threatening someone on the internet

make those three buildings fall any slower – or any less symmetrically, albury ?

You would have made a fantastic nazi 🙂

Now – answer the questions to debunkers (that’s you)

in the ae911 edit of the New Pearl Harbor documentary.

The ones that you are very publicly – and very obviously – continuing to ignore.

Personally, I believe the 9-11 conspiracies must be kept alive by misinformationalists – wanting to create outrage and distract non-scientific and gullible people.

So all the evidence of a conspiracy for this building is based on the video of it falling? – FAIL

It takes literally months to prepare a medium sized building for controlled demolition. WTC7 was not a small building, but a very large one. It would have taken the better part of a year to plan and execute the controlled demolition of this single building. It would have taken thousands of pounds of explosives, designed and placed precisely. Placing the explosives and wiring them would have taken weeks and required quite a bit of tear-out to gain access. It would not be possible to do it without all business in the building being affected for weeks prior.

I was personally in those buildings within two weeks of 9-11. I wasn’t really looking for a demolition team, but I was observant of what was going on, and I saw no evidence of any untoward activity. These were some of the busiest buildings in the world, literally thousands of people passed through daily.

Furthermore, there are only a handful of companies that do that kind of controlled demolition work in the world. If none of them were involved, then it was not a demo job.

I was as shocked as anyone to see the buildings fall, including #7, but I don’t for a second believe that is was some kind of pre-planned event.

quote:
“What makes jet fuel explosive?The liquid fuel is not explosive by itself. Explosive conditions are created when the fuel evaporates and mixes with the air in a partially empty tank. The evaporated fuel is referred to as fuel vapor. The fuel vapor consists of fuel molecules that have escaped from the liquid fuel and form a gas in the volume (ullage) above the liquid in the bottom of the fuel tank.”

“Jet A and A-1 flash points are currently specified to be a minimum of 37.8°C (100°F). This limit was set in 1975, when it was reduced from 40.6°C (105°F), in order to conform to commodity classifications of “nonflammable” liquids”

1000’s of people think they witnessed an explosion not a flash over.At least three stories of the aluminum facade is COMPLETELY ejected.
Should I mention the burn velocity of Jet A is only 6 cm – 20 cm per second.
This is data they came from the TWA 800 investigation. The data was used to conclude the maximum pressure from the Jet A explosion in the wing was 60 PSI but more in the range of 20. This is inside a closed container mind you. Not flung around at 500 MPH.

I guess this is another “special case” were the fuel aerosolized perfectly and caused a hyperbaric blast akin to a Fuel Air explosive……
THOSE TERRORISTS ARE AMAZING!!!

Thanks for showing me. It looks EXACTLY like the impacts of AA 11 and UA 175 into the WTC towers. Now explain to me why Box Boy* and his “experts” won’t demonstrate for us on video with audio how explosives or incendiaries secretly cut the 4.91″ flanges,﻿ 3.07″ webs, and﻿ 215 sq in cross sections of W14 X 730 columns like the 11 of 24 in WTC 7’s core, and the 4 corner columns in each tower’s core:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c2o8k4n9CY
If they ever HAD TO do it, this “debate” would be OVER.

He is one of those Psyop scumbags you’re talking about. He’s been active 24/7 for many years with his “nothing to see here move along” routine. He’s also an enthusiastic defender of zionist war crimes against the Palestinians.

The measured peak pressure rises recorded during our experiments were between 1.5 and 4 bar (20
to 60 psi), sufficient to cause failure of structural components inside the CWT of a B-747 aircraft
…………

Structural Response
1. Structural failure modeling. The CWT is a typical modern airplane structure and consists of a large number of individual components such as stringers, stiffeners, and panels held together with rivets and removable fasteners.

Quote:The leaner the mixture, the lower the ﬂame speed.
Near the ﬂammability limit, the ﬂame speed decreases to about 4 to 5 cm/s. There is no data available in the literature on Jet A ﬂame speeds other than a range of 0.3 to 0.6 m/s quoted in CRC (1983).

Albury Smith

Tell all of this to American and United Airlines, not me. No-planers suck even more than regular 9/11 truther nuts..

Why would I contact either airline? No eyewitnesses to the event even work there. They couldn’t testify in court about what happened.It would be hearsay.

Not capable of anything beyond a pre-canned answers or logical fallacies are you?

Albury Smith

You could tell the airlines’ crash investigations what they “really” saw on the streets of NYC, inside the Pentagon, and at Shanksville, idiot.

Boredmuch?

United airlines?That is in tact with the government the government isnt bad its the people in it,so if you asked them and even if one of them knew they would be required to tell you the governments story…And if they did tell you ,and you started something they could get in trouble and im sure they wouldnt take this risk

Albury Smith

Real C/Ds take months because there’s a LOT that has to be done, including ripping out the architectural enclosures around the columns to be cut. Only imaginary ones are possible in occupied buildings.

EvanRavitz

No need for wiring. Never heard of wireless???

LetFreedomRing

My my.. I’m not sure if I should even try to explain the things that you claim you can’t see how they could have been done, etc… because I can’t see a logical, intelligent person, (which you ‘do’ seem to be, here), who’d be willing to listen, even if I try to do so. Anyone who at this point in time is still convinced that we have not been blatantly lied to about the events of 9/11, has either kept their mind and/or ears completely “closed” for the last decade, or has been cut off from the outside world (society) completely for all that time. But I’ll give it a shot anyway, if not for yourself, it might benefit someone else…

For over eleven years now, I’ve been researching this topic, which I had my doubts about the “official story of” from day 1, actually. I put my own personal investigation on hold for the first 6 months, out of what I thought would be only fair to myself, because I didn’t want to jump to any sort of irrational, emotionally charged conclusions about it. When I started my work, I took heavily into consideration, that I was sure to come across a great deal of misinformation, and therefore went to great lengths to first, always, verify credibility of any and all given information I would come across to the utmost best of my ability.

Basically, what I’m trying to say, is that I undertook that “call for the fair and independent investigation into the events of 9/11” everyone talks about, on a purely personal level; and I felt I absolutely needed to do so. For ‘me’. I went into it hoping to find that my doubts were completely unfounded, to be honest with you.. but the further I delved, the more it became overwhelmingly obvious to me that the truth was indeed the horrific, and the unthinkable that I prayed it would not turn out to be.

“All the evidence of a conspiracy for this building is based on the video of it falling?- FAIL”

– Hardly. The video of it falling in a perfectly straight down pancaking demolition-style at near free-fall speed, is just the tip of the iceberg. Free-fall speed, meaning absolutely no resistance as it falls, from one floor falling upon the next. Just as WTC 1 and 2 fell 6 hours earlier that day.. making these the ONLY 3 steel structured buildings in all of world history to ever simply collapse like that. Building 7, of course, being unique in that it was never hit by a plane at all – and was reported having only a few “minimal” small-sized fires which allegedly caused this phenomenon of apparent demolition, to occur. It out-and-out defies the laws of physics for this to have happened that way. (Most all of the WTC building occurrences given the ‘official story’, by the way, I could ‘maybe’ give an iota of credit towards them having ‘maybe’, could be a chance in a million – but perhaps even the slightest, near infinitesimal, teensy possibility of merit if it was just merely WTC 1 & 2, but when you throw building 7 into that same equation… that chance is “obliterated”.

Building #7 was not a public/business building like the Twin Towers were. It was a government-only building, where ton’s of paperwork were held. Lots of very important paperwork; much of it, incriminating paperwork – depending on your perspective, I suppose. The use of nano-therMATE as a means for weakening all 3 buildings, and being placed in the months proceeding 9/11 is the most logical explanation of how the collapses occurred. For up to 6 months, is how long it would have probably taken. Both the towers had workers who reported strange construction that was going on in the wee hours of the morning prior to 9/11. The elevators were being worked on during that same time period.. and many possible scenarios about how the multiple “tons” of nano-thermate required to accomplish the task might have been brought in, placed, etc. have been considered. Workers in the buildings also reported power outages, evacuation drills, and the like, which were ‘not’ of the norm during this time frame.

(Now, much of what I’m saying here are ‘conclusions’ I’ve made, not necessarily ‘the’ right answer; nor the only answer. The reason, of course, is that my investigation lacks what a real investigation into 9/11 would have, and that is adequate access to evidence, required resources at my disposal, and of course, funding. So while I’m 99% sure of the fact that we have been lied to by our government about it, to at least ‘some’ degree, & that they indeed did have at least some prior knowledge that what happened was going to happen; or at very worst, actually had a hand in it, or even planned the entire thing themselves… To what actual degree their involvement was ‘for sure’, on that, I can only speculate. But I do have strong reason to believe that most all of what I’m stating here, is indeed true. That being said:)

I strongly feel that what happened with WTC building #7, had to do with a plane that was hijacked that day, intended to target building 7, but never making it. I’m talking about the airliner that reportedly crashed in Shanksville, PA. The fourth plane that was hijacked that day, very well could have been “why” building 7 was set up to collapse in exactly the same fashion as WTC’s Twin Towers did. When that “plane crashing” fell through, however, Larry Silverstein likely gave that “pull it” (anyway) command that we the people were never supposed to have overheard in the first place, but did. After all, the buildings in that complex were all heavily… well, “extra heavily” insured and owned by Silverstein.

Like the twin towers, also, there was this literal “pool” of.. rivers of molten steel that went on burning in their molten-states for months afterwards. Some claim that the molten metal was caused by plane fuel, since regular fire can’t melt steel.. but if that was the case, how in the world could there be molten metal under building 7 as well, when no plane hit it? It’s the nano-thermate, who’s ‘effect’, it’s by-product when cutting through steel, is molten iron.

Also, my last “point” I’ll leave you with, is quite incriminating indeed, and one that only came up just recently. Most have heard, already, about the BBC slipping up and before WTC building 7 actually collapsed, (a good 20 minutes before-hand!), the BBC announced it on national TV there, that the building had already collapsed. How they could have even predicted it, let alone declare it 20 minutes early; what with there only being reported only the small fires, makes one think they must have had some sort of prior knowledge. No? Anyway, this has now been proven as “fact” (that the BBC did make the announcement 20 minutes before) in a British court case there. The case took place just a couple months back, but here we now have a pretty strong “foot in the door”, so to speak, for the first time.. in that a highly regarded country’s courts have gone and proven the advanced knowledge “by at least ‘some” (British media) of the events of 9/11. Meaning that, in the future, this court case can be cited.. and used in other cases here and abroad. What may be considered somewhat “small”, is actually the wake of something “huge” as it gets rolling; definitely a step in the right direction, in my opinion.

Daryl Revok

Why isn’t the government willing to release it’s “data” on their version of the model on why they say “fires” collapsed building 7 into a nice neat pancake? If they have nothing to hide they would just come out with it. You can tell just as much by what ISNT said as you can by what IS.

Albury Smith

The complete input and results DATA is in NCSTAR 1A, 1-9, and 1-9A, and the ANSYS & LS-DYNA FILES can be seen at a NIST facility.

apeman2502

High radiation nukes causing low radioactive isotopes in the primer paint to go critical to produce huge amounts of heat, combined with various thermetic and other conventional explosives, and a resin based concrete to incinerate for each floor, all documented and rigged as of 1969. You people just can’t leave the porn button on your computers alone long enough to hit the libraries. You poor fools. You won’t believe what they have planned for you next. The lady in the picture is already married to a bankster. Yap yap yap, yourself.

Dang dang

The day it happened, 9/11/01, there was a news guy who stated on tv that it was a controlled drop. Didnt anyone else see this?

Albury Smith

He said it LOOKED LIKE one, i.e. gravity was working normally in NYC on 9/11/2001.

Seth A. Yellin

INDEED. WTC7 wasn’t even mentioned in the Commissioner’s Report either (I never read it but have seen countless testimonies, videos, pictures).

Albury Smith

Other than the two targeted by al Qaeda suicide terrorists, what damaged or destroyed NYC buildings WERE mentioned?

Seth A. Yellin

#Pescatarian. <3

#OHWOW….. Though that Health-Care bill could have been better, though, Congress, with their 9% approval-rating, has been instructed to veto anything Obama puts out on any subject. #BernieSanders2016 <3 #FeelTheBern <3 :3 :like:

“Poll: More Americans Believe World Trade Center 7 Was Demolished On 9/11 than Believe the Government’s Explanation”

Doesn’t surprise me at all. Americans are mostly scientifically illiterate. What do you expect?

Alex

All you crazy conspiracy theorists need to stop being so paranoid–we’ve got several wars for profit to fight, there are still jobs in the military so give your sons to the Anglo-American war machine and stop complaining! So what if NORAD failed 4 times on 1 day! Who cares that the NSA is spying on everyone and that we’re torturing non-terrorists in Guantanamo Bay! And big deal if Cheney is all over the media warning us the big one is coming and that his war company Halliburton makes billions off staged terror and the subsequent war theatrics that kill millions! So what if he’s all over the media instructing us (like the democrats) that the government loves us and is going to protect us from the government sponsored terrorists as long as we give up our due process! Just wave your Chinese made American flag and slap your “God Bless America” bumper sticker on your now foreign made American vehicle and be an uninvolved, uninformed, disconnected, over-entertained TV head.

Keith Liberty

Why do terror attacks always happen the same day military exercises in the same areas are scheduled?

Albury Smith

The drills had nothing to do with al Qaeda’s 9/11/2001 Planes Operation suicide attacks on NYC and DC, and NORAD’s usual two F15s at Otis AFB and two F16s at Langley AFB were armed and on standby just as they were every other day.

Don Don

I am married to a psychologist and I made her read your replies in this thread. She states that you are (Layman’s terms) a clinical liar pushing agenda-ridden propaganda. You will need to re-tool because everyone can see through your ‘bs’.

scott_ewing

Best doco I’ve yet seen on the case for Controlled Demolitionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEkVsj88Xsg
It contains many questions to debunkers – that none of the paid pro official story shills will go near or discuss.
While they will claim they have already answered / debunked these questions – they will remain unable to do so publicly.

scott_ewing

Poll of Canadians Finds Popular Support for Parliamentary Review of 9/11 Commission Report

Damning evidence aside, 9/11 is mostly all about the science — which thoroughly debunks the US government narrative.

Ozcan Erdonmez

Has Washington ever told the truth about anything?

Guest

It is obvious it was a controlled demolition. Compare WTC 7 with any other building in the world that had office fires consume it or that collapsed from office fires (good luck finding those) and you will see it is obvious this was a controlled demolition. America is a brainwashed, sheeple society. Why do you think so much money is put into propaganda efforts within the country?

guest

Did this survey show footage of actual demolitions concurrently? If not, then anyone who just saw the footage of building 7 collapsing missed a critical fact… It looks very little like a controlled demolition. Where’s the walk? Where are the countless explosions? If they used nano thermite to cut diagonal lines, as the conspiracy goes, then where’s the twist or the slide that would have been inevitable from such an action? This survey is yet another example of just how mislead we all are, from all sides. Including yours.

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