Throughout his recent campaign for the Republican nod, accomplished neurosurgeon Ben Carson made no secret of the fact that he was a devout Christian. This fearless approach to his faith endeared him to conservatives, leading to him being one of the last candidates to concede the nomination to Donald Trump. It also set him apart from most politicians on the left, whose adherence to secularism leads them to sneer or condescend at best at public expressions of religious faith.

But according to Carson, at least one of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton’s heroes antipathy towards religion led him to admire somebody much more sinister than today’s most vocal atheist activists. The man Carson spoke of was Saul Alinsky, and the somebody he admired was Lucifer.

Carson’s remarks about Alinsky are not hyperbolic at all: the late social activist and community organizer literally acknowledged Lucifer as “the original radical” in the dedication page for his 1971 book Rules for Radicals. For Clinton to be inspired by someone who, ironically or unironically, dedicated a work of theirs to the devil is very unsettling, especially to people of faith:

“‘So are we willing to elect somebody for president who has, as their role model, somebody who acknowledges Lucifer?’ Carson asked the crowd.

‘Think about that,’ the retired brain surgeon scoffed.

Carson suggested that this kind of thinking was counter to the founders’ thoughts.

‘This is a nation where our founding document, the Declaration of Independence, talks about certain inalienable rights that come from our creator,’ Carson said.

‘This is a nation where our Pledge of Allegiance says, “we are one nation under God,”‘ he continued.

‘This is a nation, this is a nation where every coin in our pocket and every bill in our wallet says, ‘In God We Trust,” Carson noted.

The former presidential candidate than hammered the ‘secular progressive agenda,’ to which he believed Clinton was a part.

‘If we continue to allow them to take God out of our lives, God will remove himself from us, we will not be blessed and our nation will go down the tubes,’ Carson warned.