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In fairness, Jrich has been playing really well for us too. He is giving us 4 rpg, almost 2 steals a game, and is shooting 45% from 3.

edit: But yes, ET has been superb.

Last edited by Knowledge; 12-01-2012 at 05:44 PM.

Originally Posted by Sam Hinkie

"I'm probably pretty boring to watch a game with because I''m all about expected values. I don''t even care if it goes in or not, I'm all about, '‘Should it go in?'' I can live with randomness. I mean, if it''s a close game in the end, yeah, I''m just like anyone else. But I just want us to play the odds all the time."

Who Will Score More?

U cant discount that game forever tho.... Its only 1 out of 15 games, becomes less statistically significant every day. And turner is trending up as a scorer/playmaker in the offense while jrich is a role player whos only job is to hit open 3s

Ill admit that i am very skiddish with jrich. Hes been around for a while, and ive never EVER liked his game.... Not even when he was a young dunker, and i even remember saying that golden state ****ed up by going with him over larry hughes.... Which is probably still true.

But im done hating on the guy, hes played well as a sixer, outside of maybe one or 2 games, he hasnt hurt us in any way, which i expected him to do. His defense isnt good, but its better than its probably ever been at any stage of his career before philly.

He still has an early trigger, and i dont love that, but he plays with an energy that i did not expect, or that ive ever seen before in his career.

Am i a jrich fan? No. But hes a sixer, hes not hurting us ( yet) so im done hating on the guy.

Its not like hes willie green.... And he doesnt dribble like an ******* like lou....

U cant discount that game forever tho.... Its only 1 out of 15 games, becomes less statistically significant every day. And turner is trending up as a scorer/playmaker in the offense while jrich is a role player whos only job is to hit open 3s

Yeah but the point at which it becomes not statistically significant enough to discount is probably the point at which it isn't material to the argument any longer - so for now I'm keeping it in.

Originally Posted by 2-ONE-5

we all kno if it was ET who only played 2 min ricky would be ignoring it.

JRich: He was brought in here to score a bit...add energy...and be a leader. That's really all that was expected of him. But his injuries have frustrated me and his FG% has been a real disappointment, especially of late...

But he's one of our few 'fiery' guys; and on a team with zero personality, an absence of heart most nights and no chippiness - at all - I think he's largely done what he came to do.

I'd sure like to see more in the next 50 however. Move the ball alot more...but keep those TO's down to the insanely low level you have been.

Evan: Ugh. While he may be winning this little poll at this particular time (by 3 points; just one long-range JRich bomb per game)...HE's here to score a bit, rebound (that's what makes him valuable to us) and defend. The latter has been a joke. Awful. Maybe the biggest disappointment I can remember in Philly sports in a long time. I mean, my God, when we drafted him I heard TONS about his defense. Putrid.

And now that his rebounding is barely above average (4.8 in his last 8 games!), I'm confused as to why we're seeing him get the amount of minutes he does. He plays seven more than JRich (no doubt contributing to the small points scored discrepancy); which isn't to say JRich deserves more (he doesn't)...but Evan HAS TO play less. Often he's hurting us out there with his nonexistent defense and clanking mid-range bricks. But he also turns it over 160% more than JRich (not a typo), 180% more than Swaggy and over TWICE as often as Wright. My God, man!

So now...all of a sudden...we're really not getting anything of value from Evan. 5 PPG in these last 3; barely more than his TO numbers for the same 3 games.

It will be interesting to see how this poll shifts once Evan enters Doug's doghouse. Because no doubt the pouting will set in and childlike mopey-ness will surely zap what little value we are getting.