So we've got Turkey Day coming this week. I wanted to just make sure everyone was aware that I will do my best to post over the holidays but obviously things will be sporadic, probably for others as well. I will be updating up until Wednesday afternoon for sure. After that it will be random until the following Monday or so.

As I said, I'm expecting this to be the case for most people but I just wanted people to know that there is no expectation of posts during this time. If you can though then great.

Also Litheene I just wanted to check to make sure you were still around and on board with the game. Just to give you a rough timeframe, your introduction will take place at or near the wharehouse which will probably be in the next (real world) day or so, depending on the posting frequency. (Barring the group deciding on a full frontal assault of the building or some such, which would require a little inventiveness on my part lol.)

Sorry I haven't posted much lately. I've been swamped at work. Thankfully, the holiday is coming up so I'll have a nice vacation...

Of course, I probably will not be able to post at all starting tomorrow afternoon, since I'll be traveling. After that I am in training for a week during the hours I normally can post. I'm not sure at the moment if I'll be able to post during that week or not... So DMPC me if necessary.

DM, i prupose this: since i cannot have Rend yet, i would like to swap it with a weave found in the netbook UtDB called "circle of sounds". It is a common weave.
Let me know what you think? Its found on page 87 in the netbook.

As it looks like you'll be joining us in character soon, I have a question. Namely, do you want Litheene to know Alathea from their time at the White Tower? (I guess that'd go for Jasmine, too, but I'll leave that for her to work out backstory with you if she chooses.) Given your description of Litheene, she spends most of her time in the libraries and such, but there's always the chance of sharing instruction or Alathea bumping into her during a research trip or the like. (Excuses are easy to come by!) So if you want, we could work out a way for them to have met and their relationship hence, or decide that they'd never run into each other before.

I guess I'm curious so I can have Alathea react appropriately when she meets Litheene. Feel free to answer according to how you'd like the meeting to go!

Jasper the weave as written is a bit much for me. A +30 bonus to Perception within the dome is a bit much. I'd be fine for you to take the weave but the bonus would need to drop quite a bit. I'm thinking a +10 would be something I'm fine with. Let me know if you still want to take it.

DM Jonasty, since some of the weaves are concentration and such can they be moved to new targets with the same casting if they are within range? I know you can't with arms of air because it specifically says "a single item or creature" but I wasnt sure about others of the same type.

ok. i have a question regarding tied off weaves and affects on a person.

i posted earlier that jasper had overchanneled and was able to get a pretty good channeling of circle of sounds, and then tied it off. Since this is a weave that affects the channeler directly, linked to him/her, shouldnt it travel with them?

ok. i have a question regarding tied off weaves and affects on a person.

i posted earlier that jasper had overchanneled and was able to get a pretty good channeling of circle of sounds, and then tied it off. Since this is a weave that affects the channeler directly, linked to him/her, shouldnt it travel with them?

Circle of sounds isn't specific to the channeler, it's like a Ward weave in that it creates a dome in an area. Anyone in the dome benefits from the weave and it is tied to a location where you create it, it's not "centered on you" which is where I think the confusion lies. If the Range of the weave were Personal, then yes you would still have it.

To all the channelers. Having played the game for a bit now I am making a DM call on splat stuff.

In the Under the Dragon's Banner netbook, I am opening up the option to take the feat progression that allows for embracing saidin/saidar faster. That being said, should any of you want to swap a feat, you may swap ONE feat you have for the first feat in that progression. I don't want to instigate an entire rewrite of your feat selections but you may start the process of taking those feats. Of course you can simply wait until your next feat for leveling if you want or avoid those feats altogether.

So if anyone wants to change, let me know. Please note even if you decide to change that it will not affect this combat. Assume that confronting a myrddraal was motivation for you to learn to do it faster. ;-)

By the by, I love the conversations that touch on Pace and Jasper's relative sanity. I only mention it because I actually do have their Madness scores noted down and they're interesting to say the least. ;-)

in the section found in the initiate class, concerning men who can channel, i read that male channelers get bonus weaves, from 1st level weave to 5th level weave, any weave!!! granted the lost and rares are out...but damn!!!! i totally missed that...need to add me some weaves!

Jasper you've got that section backwards. You don't get new weaves known, you get bonus weaves per day. It's a little bass-ackwards in the text but the part where it compares it to "getting bonus weaves from a high ability score" is how you know. Channelers don't get to know any more weaves for having a high ability score, but they do get to cast more. So that section on male channelers means that when you're high enough level to cast them, you get 1 more weave slot per day at the indicated level. So I believe you can cast up to lvl 3 weaves, so you should add 1 extra slot per day of levels 1, 2 and 3. When you level up to be able to cast lvl 4 weaves, you would get an extra one.

There is quite a lot of in-fighting going on this PbP! Out of character here, I think some disagreement and arguing is okay between characters, but we should all be careful not to take it too far. Just remember that in stories, even when there are disagreements, characters usually end up coming to a middle ground.

With that in mind, I see this already starting to happen. I just want to make sure it continues because, frankly, if the fighting continues to happen all the time, I'm not going to enjoy myself.

I hope I'm not putting a sour note over everything, I just want everyone to maybe dial it back a little bit. Hopefully we'll see some good character progression as they learn to work together and change their own ways. Otherwise, I'm having a good time.

Although, I see that channelers are basically going to dominate everything... I had heard that non-channeling classes were basically useless, and I can see that being very true.

I don't think nonchannelers are useless at all. Those trollocs would have torn us apart if you and Ryland hadn't been beating on them. That assassin would have totally killed me if it hadn't been for you in the room. Granted, channelers are very powerful but we need time to get our weaves together in order to do anything really potent. That first round getting to the source alone can be enough to kill us.

and personally, while there is alot of argueing, i think that it is working itself out. The way i see it, the animosity between the black tower and white tower is huge, 3,000+ years of it being funneled into myth, legend, and belief; it is a central theme to the series. black and white, yin and yang. Sure there will be alot of hatred, but being forced into situations that require people to work together, boundries lessen and relationships form.

As for the uselessness thing, you have any idea how badly i wish i had a decent attack. 99.9% of the time, i play fighters, but i thought id try out a channeler. kinda wishing i woulda thought of my armsman/blademaster/channeler sooner, or an ogier blademaster. ooooo...im gonna crunch those numbers...an ogier blademaster...nice....

Regarding the RP based animosity, I agree with Jed in general. Some of it is to be expected but at a certain point it can weigh the feel of the game down. I'm not having a problem with it just yet but it will come to a time where I would like to see a little more cohesion. In the same vein, I do agree with Jasper about certain bits. Plus so far it has been slowly happening so hopefully we'll get there without the DM stepping in to say play nice. ;-)

Regarding the non-channeler power level stuff I do agree that they can feel a bit overbearing to others. That being said, some of that is also my learning curve. I'm still figuring out the balance of what I can toss at you guys without overwhelming the casters but still being a challenge for everyone involved. Because despite all their cosmic power, I've managed to get a few of them down to under 5 HP while barely managing to make a dent in my brawlers. It's a balancing act that I'm slowly getting the hang of now that we've had a few combats under our belts.

As for channeller power vs. non-channeller power, I think that after the latest battle things will work out differently. Just because the channellers can and have destroyed city blocks, doesn't mean that that's the best thing to do in the context of the situation. Alathea certainly will be restricting her fireball use in the future, and without the fireball, she's pretty useless in combat. Unless the combat involves male channellers...she's good on the gentling front!

I think the frustrating thing in regards to non-channelers (armsmen, at least), is the lack of options. This is actually more of a 3.0 thing as opposed to a WoT thing, probably. My only options, really, are to attack or charge. I'm not saying we're useless, I'm saying we are meatshields to the channelers can wreck havoc :)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to complain about it. I made the decision to go warder because that is what I want to play. It's more about the roleplaying anyway.

And about the arguing in the party. Again, I want to emphasize that it is okay right now. I just want everybody (that includes myself) to make an effort to have their characters grow over time. We just started, so I don't expect to results yet, I just want to make sure it is in the back of everyone's minds.

And, yes, I recognize that the White Tower and Black Tower are opposite sides of the same coin. There is a lot of animosity between them, but that doesn't mean it has to be that way with our group. You can have mistrust without animosity. I'm not asking Jasper to trust Alathea, especially given her leanings toward the Red Shawl. But I am asking Jasper to be a little less vocal about his disdain. Too much in-fighting is what I'm worried about. And that was just one example, I'm not trying to pick on you Jasper.

The more I write, the more I realize I may be coming across as not having fun. I am having a blast! I just want to be sure everyone is working towards trust with their characters, so that eventually we'll be cohesive and working as a good team. We're already making some strides (especially with the linking), so I think we're on track.

For me, i am playing a 19 yr old kid who is getting his first taste of the world. He is cocky, arogant, annoying, rebels against anyone he percieves as an authority figure... your basic 19 yr old today, he thinks he is god's gift to the world with his head up his butt and refuses to listen to reason. Everyone else is playing characters that are 25+ in age, so they can act mature, wise, smart, and are able to quickly adapt and come together. For jasper, not so much.

I am sure that everyone can agree that when you were 19, you pretty much acted the same way, within reason. i know i did, 12 years ago...ugg.

Actually you are not the only one playing a 19 years old, that why Litheenes curiosity sometimes gets the better of her :)

And Alathea - we are not useless without fireballs :). The last battle tough me so. I made a character with the most minimal battle abilities as expected of a damane (knowing to hold or shield someone and nothing else) but turns out this weave (harden air) is pretty useful in combat. Jasper already demonstrated how arms of air can also be of use.

P.S. the meat shield thing is really a problem of 3.0. In the books non channelers had more interesting fights than just charging.

When I was 19 I was impulsive, somewhat selfish, and occasionally unaware/unconcerned about others' feelings. Not willfully rude, cruel in a serial killer type way, almost suicidally reckless. I'm enjoying the interplay of distrust between the male and female channelers, and Pace's doubts about Jasper and himself. I am not enjoying corralling a increasingly insane child and plotting how I can kill/gentle him in the safest and most discrete way possible.