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Thanks a lot nabbit and princevladlin.Plan on first page. But we need to get to voting because if we just keep throwing out plans, we'll get to nothing. So without futher ado, I suggest and urge we get to voting!

KrissKhan wrote:For all the liar, morons and hypocrites here, all the people on the site who have Auth (from me) will be demoted. If you would like to prevent this, give me 3 good reasons why I should not.

Hello everyone

Just got word from the real KrissKhan that this is a fake )

Delete this post?

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KrissKhan wrote:For all the liar, morons and hypocrites here, all the people on the site who have Auth (from me) will be demoted. If you would like to prevent this, give me 3 good reasons why I should not.

Hello everyone

Just got word from the real KrissKhan that this is a fake )

Yeah KK doesn't live in the USA (dead giveaway that it's a fake account).

To everyone else:Please keep the discussion here relevant to the topic. Unnecessary posts will be deleted so that the thread isn't cluttered. Please do not post anymore spam here.

Well... I guess I should make one. (By the way... YEP = Yck Exit Path)

A look at YEP so far:I guess everyone's opinion on YEP as a whole right now is different, but I would like to state some of my observations here so I can clearly state the problems I will be addressing with this plan and clear up, what I believe, are some fallacies made about the site:

- YEP isn't dying. We have always been a small, private community, but that doesn't make us weak. Sure we're going to be a ghost town someday if we don't invite new members, but I don't see this in the near future. People go on vacation for a while, but they always return for a bit. Like I've heard many people say to me, and from my own observations over the years, you can never quit EP. And because of that motto we have a strong community, despite our small size. The few, the proud.

- We do have a problem with getting new members to the site. People need invite codes to get into the site and there aren't enough people willing to go into 1.0 rooms to hand them out. I think also ever since we've moved from the google site, (which had no invite codes or moderation system) we've gotten more elitist than before. I see that in the way we've been treating our most recently added members... some of the more annoying newbies amongst them were a common occurence on the old site. Because of that, i would like to make something clear: if we make the site more accessible, we're going to get annoying people, and YEP isn't going to burn in hell if that happens. It's the internet, there's stupid people on here. It can't be helped.

- Yck isn't that active. It's going to be extremely hard to get him to do a bunch of programming /changes since he's distant. And he has the final word on all of this; I would like to remind everyone of that.

- Both good and bad came from the mentor rank. One good result is that the mentors are active and strong, unlike most of the moderators. They've helped keep the site tame and orderly. I think a few of them could be fantastic moderators. However, there are (were (?)... there's been so many rank changes since the whole plan thing started) too many, due to moderators carelessly handing out mentor ranks to a bunch of people. This caused too much power to be in the hands of too many people, and things got chaotic.

- The moderators, as a whole, suck. Most of the moderators are inactive, and things have been stressful with us lately. I'm not saying I'm the perfect mod, because I'm really not, but we need changes in this category too...

- And then all of that fancy stuff people want to be changed in the actual game. Idk enough about the game itself to state anything here, but I know it's an issue. (Yck, I want to shoot lasers at people in game when they're ahead of me. Can you add that in?)

So... I'll be addressing all the problems listed here. But the following is not only going to be what I think we should do, but more importantly, how we should go about doing it.

LETS CHUNK ITThis idea is ripped off from Princevladlin, but I'm putting it here because it's a fucking good idea, bitches. If we try to make gigantic plans that address everything at once, they won't suffice because people might agree with some parts of the plan but not all of it which would result in endless fighting, or people will TL;DR it like most will do with this post. xD Take the problems on one at a time and not all at once so we're not overwhelmed.

I was thinking we could go about doing this by creating a thread that focuses on one problem on the site. (Mentors, recruiting...) Discuss it, decide on something, done. We lock the thread up and move on to the next issue. And we'll make one thread at a time. If my plan wins... I think the first thing we should discuss is whether to open the site or not and if so by how much.

The following I'm putting in spoilers because I doubt everyone will agree with every part I say, which is why I suggested the above; we can decided on each individual topic and not everything at once. If you read anything in this post... read the above. Because the below I kind of doubt will happen because we're limited by Yck but I wish it would. But anyways, more opinions from me.

Recruiting:

I think the best thing we can do is scrap invite codes. It will make the site less complicated and easier to join. Word of YEP will spread around faster because all someone would have to do to get their friend on to YEP is to give him/her the URL, no generating invite codes. And if we don't like someone who joins, we ban them. Simple. Also another great thing is it doesn't require Yck to code anything! Yay! \o/ (Or at least I assume so lol.)

The recruiter rank I think is kind of pointless since mentors/moderators can just do that job on their own, and besides, we can't force people to invite people. They would just rather not have the rank if we used deadlines against them. Also people could make alternate accounts to fufill their rank requirements for the day. By getting rid of invite codes the site URL will be free to spread around on its own and then we don't have to worry about recruiting people.

Oh yeah... I'm against telling AG about the site. Too much risk. Yck's head will be eaten by AG zombies.

Mentors:

So I think we should keep the mentor rank, because the mentors have been very helpful around the site. It also singles out potential moderators and such. We just need to limit their powers a bit. Get rid of their ability to ban, maybe even auth/deauth. It would be great if Yck could somehow limit the number of mentors on the site to 10 or 15 with code so we don't have 40 again... have some sort of maximum number. That's the only way I can think of making sure there aren't too many mentors on here.

Administrators?:

Zenzational wrote:We should add a couple administrators too (removable by yck1509 just in case), that are really trusted and know how to run and manage a site, fix problems, and implement changes.

Well it would be great if this happened, because then we can get more stuff programmed. But I think it's pipe dreams. We don't know anyone who can code on here the way Yck can. We can't pull programmers out of thin air. (Well actually I know a guy... but nobody really knows him...) But hey. If a programmer randomly appears on the site and Yck supports I'm all for this.

Site space issues (For lack of better terminology):

So Yck said we were using around 80% of the free traffic that's allowed on the site. Opening up the site is obviously going to bring more people if which could cause us to exceed the number of hits we're allowed. There's really no easy solution to this. Someone could help fund the site, but who would volunteer? x.x We could resort to advertising, but then we'd have to dabble with copyright stuff which also doesn't sound too good. This isn't much of a solution, but I say lets see what happens. It would be bad if we wasted a whole bunch effort in this category and watch nothing happen to the site population after we open up.

Moderators:

Yeah... a lot of us are inactive/quit... so I wouldn't mind seeing some more active moderators. I think we have a few mentors that could make good moderators. :p

In game changes:

I'm not an EP pro, so I don't have any specific suggestions for this area. However, since this stuff requires coding, I think the best thing we can do is create a thread that's like a wishlist for things Yck should code. Actually, I believe something like this has been made already. We can move good ideas/suggestions and have Yck check what's on it every once in a while and hope he codes some things.

Ok I think this is done now. xD

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just a quick reminder, cut out the edit that mickey made, i had no idea he put it there and he should have let me approve of it -_- dont know if you have seen this message previously, but as a reminder again, don't insert it, as a part of the plan. No need for worthless ranks, that is achievment unlocked xD. Anyways,HAPPY POLLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hello everyone, i had an idea to make EP more attractive and to help newcomer: the idea is to write how to do basic tricks on AG and perhaps put some video too. it s just an idea but if it s possible, i think it can help newcomer.