I hope nobody is shocked by this. I'm all for WMMA but not main eventing UFC PPVs.

Theoutlaw08

1/3/13 12:19:57PM

I dont see the big deal. The comain event is Hendo and Machida. The card is decent enough where sales should still be up. Plus who ever goes will get to see Rousey finish her fight with the armbar. Im sure the sales will go up.

TeamDEY

1/3/13 12:34:48PM

Posted by Goatenstein

I hope nobody is shocked by this. I'm all for WMMA but not main eventing UFC PPVs.

agreed.. the card is pretty good but Rousey should not be the main event.

bjj1605

1/3/13 12:38:10PM

Can't have women headlining....

cowcatcher

1/3/13 1:03:39PM

I'm sure the UFC is unhappy with the ticket sales so far, but it can't be totally unexpected. This is the first time they're having women headline an event, and of course there are going to be some people out there that aren't interested because they're women, but if they put on a good show, and the highlights get shown on various outlets, it could make future events featuring the ladies easier to sell. I think the jury will be out on whether they can sell tickets for at least a year or two.

machodog76

1/3/13 1:18:44PM

With all the fighters pulling out of events recently I wouldn't buy a tickket that far out either. Who knows what you're actualy paying for?

pmoney

1/3/13 1:22:05PM

This will probably be the closest UFC event to me all year, but I don't see myself going. Machida-Hendo will be epic. Faber-Menjivar should be solid too. Its not a terrible card, there are some good style matchups, but I just don't find it compelling for some reason.

I think Rousey-Carmouche would be one of the main reasons I would like to go though. First women's fight in UFC, first women's title fight.... history is cool.

MuayThaiGeek13

1/3/13 1:29:37PM

I hope this is insight on the future of women headlining the most ferociously elite pool of fighters on the planet.

It doesn't seem that even the hard-cores care much about seeing women fight. I've never been fond of it. I feel like fans are being pressured into watching WMMA.

I like football but that doesn't mean i should have to watch women play football to. They simply aren't good. not even close.

shaneTpain

1/3/13 1:44:47PM

Fuck I'd go!

crushedbacon

1/3/13 1:47:39PM

I don't care what anybody says... Henderson vs Machida as a 5 Round main event is what should have happened, alongside a decent co main event.... and Rousey maybe opening the PPV card...

"But she's a champion and they should be a main event...."

Saying that, or believing it has any merit is some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard.

DrivenDavies15

1/3/13 1:51:06PM

This is too bad but hopefully with the event a month and a half away still people will still buy in. I wish I lived near there, I would go with a couple buddies seeing as I had so much fun at FOX 5 lol. I'll probs buy it on PPV because Rousey and Carmouche are both known for exciting fights and with a stellar card behind them I don't see why not.

Bubbles

1/3/13 1:56:28PM

Posted by pmoney

I think Rousey-Carmouche would be one of the main reasons I would like to go though. First women's fight in UFC, first women's title fight.... history is cool.

That's the main reason i went to UFC 152 to watch the first ever flyweight title fight

Bubbles

1/3/13 1:59:30PM

Rousey isn't as popular as they would like for us to believe, and Carmouche is a virtual unknown.

They haven't really promoted this card nor the fighters like they should. Jones vs Belfort had trouble selling out and they are 2 of the bigger names.

Copenhagen

1/3/13 2:15:20PM

Yeah, event is 50+ days away, so there's still a good bit of time.I personally hope the seat sales and PPV sales are a flop, and hope this is the last main event that has two WMMA fighters on it. In my opinion, the UFC jumped the gun on this one.Yet, there is still plenty of time for sales to go up, and if the sales are good enough...we'll see more PPV spots filled with WMMA fights.

airkerma

1/3/13 3:07:21PM

Posted by cowcatcher

I'm sure the UFC is unhappy with the ticket sales so far, but it can't be totally unexpected. This is the first time they're having women headline an event, and of course there are going to be some people out there that aren't interested because they're women, but if they put on a good show, and the highlights get shown on various outlets, it could make future events featuring the ladies easier to sell. I think the jury will be out on whether they can sell tickets for at least a year or two.

Exactly, but if they were planning for the future, wouldn't it make more sense to put them as co-main instead? Cruz has been fighting on free cards over and over, yet a brand new division with 3 signed fighters is headlining a card?

LightsOUT23

1/3/13 3:24:45PM

I'm not against women's MMA, In fact i am all for it. Ronda Rousey is a very good fighter, but similar to Chael Sonnen in her approach to smack talking which could sell fights, but as Women's MMA in the UFC is new, i think Dana White has made a mistake under selling the rest of that card by Making Rousey the main event. There is no doubt in my mind that If the Ronda Rousey fight was maybe first or second fight on the main card with Machida/Hendo as main event and Lawler/Koscheck co-main event then this card would sell much better. By all means introduce women's MMA to the UFC, but not straight in at the big end !!!

postman

1/3/13 3:31:43PM

Posted by Bubbles

Rousey isn't as popular as they would like for us to believe, and Carmouche is a virtual unknown.

They haven't really promoted this card nor the fighters like they should. Jones vs Belfort had trouble selling out and they are 2 of the bigger names.

Maybe ppl just don't like to pay for miss matches? I personally think a combination of 2 things are the reason WMMA is in the UFC right now. the first was to keep Bellator from getting any star power they could out of the end of SF The second since Zuffa owns SF they still would have contracts to fullfil similar to the PRIDE guys like Hunt getting fights. Hunt being a good example he had a nice spark and they hope to get that same spark from Rousey. Just my take.

jay98107

1/3/13 4:03:57PM

Posted by postman

Posted by Bubbles

Rousey isn't as popular as they would like for us to believe, and Carmouche is a virtual unknown.

They haven't really promoted this card nor the fighters like they should. Jones vs Belfort had trouble selling out and they are 2 of the bigger names.

Maybe ppl just don't like to pay for miss matches? I personally think a combination of 2 things are the reason WMMA is in the UFC right now. the first was to keep Bellator from getting any star power they could out of the end of SF The second since Zuffa owns SF they still would have contracts to fullfil similar to the PRIDE guys like Hunt getting fights. Hunt being a good example he had a nice spark and they hope to get that same spark from Rousey. Just my take.

I agree with you on the mismatch point. People that are fans of Rousey and are following her career know that Carmouche doesn't stand a great chance. And if they don't know that, they can always check the mind blowing Vegas odds.

Bubbles

1/3/13 5:13:10PM

Posted by jay98107

Posted by postman

Posted by Bubbles

Rousey isn't as popular as they would like for us to believe, and Carmouche is a virtual unknown.

They haven't really promoted this card nor the fighters like they should. Jones vs Belfort had trouble selling out and they are 2 of the bigger names.

Maybe ppl just don't like to pay for miss matches? I personally think a combination of 2 things are the reason WMMA is in the UFC right now. the first was to keep Bellator from getting any star power they could out of the end of SF The second since Zuffa owns SF they still would have contracts to fullfil similar to the PRIDE guys like Hunt getting fights. Hunt being a good example he had a nice spark and they hope to get that same spark from Rousey. Just my take.

I agree with you on the mismatch point. People that are fans of Rousey and are following her career know that Carmouche doesn't stand a great chance. And if they don't know that, they can always check the mind blowing Vegas odds.

Well virtually every opponent for GSP, Anderson and Jones is a mismatch within their division too

If they built up the women's division first and then had them headline a PPV, it would have done much better. I have zero problems with a WMMA headliner fight in the UFC, they just haven't been exposed to the casual fanbase yet who only watch and know main event UFC fighters

Bubbles

1/3/13 5:16:30PM

I strongly disagree with the notion of putting a title fight (women's or not) on the first couple PPV slots. Machida vs Hendo should have been the headliner with Rousey vs Carmouche as the co-main.

postman

1/3/13 5:38:34PM

Im not disagreeing withu bubs all these things i would say are pretty much combining to cause the low ticket sales.

prophecy033

1/3/13 6:33:17PM

Posted by Bubbles

I strongly disagree with the notion of putting a title fight (women's or not) on the first couple PPV slots. Machida vs Hendo should have been the headliner with Rousey vs Carmouche as the co-main.

Wallass

1/3/13 7:45:01PM

Posted by prophecy033

Posted by Bubbles

I strongly disagree with the notion of putting a title fight (women's or not) on the first couple PPV slots. Machida vs Hendo should have been the headliner with Rousey vs Carmouche as the co-main.

So do I that and the fact that Rousey talking gives me a migraine.

mrsmiley

1/3/13 7:49:38PM

Maybe the casual MMA fan just isn't willing to take the plunge for womens MMA yet.And maybe us hardcore fans know the division isn't filled with star power just yet.

My two cents is a free card with 2 or 3 solid female matches perhaps would have been a better way to gently ease the division in. Maybe the sells will pick up?

Also doubt that Bendo, Aldo, Cruz or Mighty Mouse would do any better as the main event in Ronda's place. Im sure the card will do fine, the same as every other show they have without GSP or Andy. 250-400k ppvs.

Also doubt that Bendo, Aldo, Cruz or Mighty Mouse would do any better as the main event in Ronda's place. Im sure the card will do fine, the same as every other show they have without GSP or Andy. 250-400k ppvs.

I disagree on all parts.

Every champion named other than Johnson, becuase 125 is so new, can hold their own in pulling ppv sells far beyond what Rousey can pull without a super fight as her co-main.

Hendo and Machida are probably the reason this event has sold the tickets it has.

The main reason I'm going to be tuning in for this card is for Hendo/Machida. Followed second by begrudgingly wanting to watch the title fight for the history factor. Not for entertainment.

prozacnation1978

1/3/13 9:11:20PM

I got mine.

Let this be a lessen. This event will have the smallest attendance at a Ufc Anaheim event in history.