This is very different; first, they are available in 12ga and .45ACP; 9mm "coming soon."

Second, the three large fragments expand to nearly full dispersion at only an inch or two from the muzzle - this is very different from shot, where the group will be very tight at the muzzle, and progressively wider. The tethers ensure a fixed maximum radius.

This is very different; first, they are available in 12ga and .45ACP; 9mm "coming soon."

Second, the three large fragments expand to nearly full dispersion at only an inch or two from the muzzle - this is very different from shot, where the group will be very tight at the muzzle, and progressively wider. The tethers ensure a fixed maximum radius.

I'm definitely interested in what people have to say about them. Seems like the ideal way to beef up a low caliber round, and make smaller, more concealable pistols a better carry option. Glasers in small calibers didnt have enough penetration to rely on.

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This is a new twist on an old concept. Bolo rounds have been around for shotguns for a long time. I've never seen it in pistols before, though. I can't say much about potential effectiveness or advantages / disadvantages over conventional ammo. I've never paid much attention to this type of thing.

As for carrying a shotgun in your waistband, there's always the Taurus Judge.

Are these covered under the Geneva convention restrictions on "Expanding bullets" (dumdums)?

I understand its kind-of a grey area since they're only banned for war.

Different thing. "Dum dums" are a slang term for unjacketed bullets, also known as "wad cutters". Their expansion is due to the soft nature of lead. Good mushroom, shite penetration.

The "expanding bullet" taboo includes semi jacketed and hollow point bullets. These rules only apply to national militaries, thus police forces and individuals can use frangible and expanding ammo to their hearts content.

The army on the other hand is restricted to Full Metal Jacket, AKA "Ball" ammunition in an "anti personnel" capacity.

Now you know how that Geneva thing works (and why it doesn't apply to you, should you decide to purchase this latest whiz-bang wundershiesse for your home or office).