[quote=Chuck Gordon;173847
There are a couple of groups in the west claiming to be practicing a "Takeda Ryu" that _is_ an offshoot of Takeda's Daito Ryu. Again, AFAIK, there's no empirical evidence that those folks have any legitimate connection with either Daito Ryu or the other (non-aikijujutsu) Takeda Ryu.[/QUOTE]

According to the little info I gathered, the "Takeda ryu" here is an offshoot of Daito Ryu and even Aikido, and from what you said I infer they are illegitimate.

Well, the good news is that I found a legitimate Daito Ryu dojo not so far away from there!