8-4+

7-5

6-6

5-7

Give him more time regardless

For me it is more dynamic than. "What is our record on November 24th?" For me, alot depends on how we look, not just in loses, like Oregon where we looked good in the second half, but in wins, like Rutgers where we looked like a really bad football team. but i'm interested to know how alone i am in my expectations for the remainder of this season and this seems like a pretty objective standard to gauge.

Personally, i've seen too much bad football where our performance is much worse than our talent that i would need to see something special to want* another MR year. My vote is for 8-4

Barring a complete collapse, I think we need to give him a chance to coach up his recruits for another year or two. We seem to be bringing in upgraded talent, let's allow the man and his staff to try to realize their vision with them.

Besides, looking at next year's schedule, do we really want to bring in a new coach and put him through that gauntlet? @ Ohio State, @ Michigan, @ Wisconsin, Michigan State... I'm thinking that would put the new coach immediately behind the 8-ball.

The only provision I would like to include is a baseline rule stating "If you coached with Mike Riley at Oregon State, thank you for your time... you're fired."

Barring a complete collapse, I think we need to give him a chance to coach up his recruits for another year or two. We seem to be bringing in upgraded talent, let's allow the man and his staff to try to realize their vision with them.

Besides, looking at next year's schedule, do we really want to bring in a new coach and put him through that gauntlet? @ Ohio State, @ Michigan, @ Wisconsin, Michigan State... I'm thinking that would put the new coach immediately behind the 8-ball.

The only provision I would like to include is a baseline rule stating "If you coached with Mike Riley at Oregon State, thank you for your time... you're fired."

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I'm not with you on the "let's wait" train, but you're right it is really hard to imagine Cav coming back and to a lesser extent Langsdorf. however, it seems almost just as cruel to send a team with a new O-line coach and O-Coord. to next years rough schedule as it would be to send a new HC there

8-4 is almost an impossibility at this point with Ohio St and Penn St on the schedule. 7-5 with with reasonable losses (e.g. no 62-3 scores) could convince me to give MR another year, but I think that outcome is a stretch. We would have to beat four teams who we are not substantially better than.

I would need to see the actual wins and losses first, but in general I could understand support for another year if we go 7-5.

Going from 3-3 to 7-5 with Ohio State and Penn State still on the horizon is going to require improved coaching and play from this team.

If we lose to OSU and PSU, but show that we can compete with them without being embarrassed, and we sweep Purdue, Northwestern, Minnesota and Iowa, then that would get us to 7-5, and it would show me something.

Embarrassing losses and/or losing to one or more of the "lessor 4", and I'm done. But again, so much of it goes into how we actually look, not just the W or L.

For me it is more dynamic than. "What is our record on November 24th?" For me, alot depends on how we look, not just in loses, like Oregon where we looked good in the second half, but in wins, like Rutgers where we looked like a really bad football team. but i'm interested to know how alone i am in my expectations for the remainder of this season and this seems like a pretty objective standard to gauge.

I always find it interesting why looking good in the Oregon 2nd half is more important than looking horrible in the Oregon 1st half?

For me it is more dynamic than. "What is our record on November 24th?" For me, alot depends on how we look, not just in loses, like Oregon where we looked good in the second half, but in wins, like Rutgers where we looked like a really bad football team. but i'm interested to know how alone i am in my expectations for the remainder of this season and this seems like a pretty objective standard to gauge.

Personally, i've seen too much bad football where our performance is much worse than our talent that i would need to see something special to want* another MR year. My vote is for 8-4

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Why is it more important that NU looked good in the 2nd half at Oregon than it is that they were horrible in the 1st half?

I would grudgingly accept 7-5. 8-4 would make me much happier about the prospect of his return.

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if you would have told me 7-5, at the beginning of the year, i would have told you we should keep going with MR (i REALLY think his a great guy and the way he carries himself makes me proud as a fan) but i expected 3-4 losses to better teams and 1-2 "frustrating" surprises. Instead, we have just played bad bad football. Outside of Illinois all of our performances have looked like very bad football to me. early season games in CFB mean more than they do in any other sport, at this point i'm not willing to root for 'moderate' improvement, and i cant imagine being satisfied simply by finishing with a win over IA

Why is it more important that NU looked good in the 2nd half at Oregon than it is that they were horrible in the 1st half?

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I'm not saying it is. I'm just saying that I'm personally more concerned about how we look than the W/L record. i didn't want to use our performance at the hapless Illini and the 2nd half against OR is the only example i could think of for good looking football