Episode 11 of Star Trek: Discovery will be available on CBS All Access on Sunday, January 14th by 8:30 pm ET. It will air in Canada on the Space Channel at 8:00 pm ET the same day and be available on Netflix outside the USA and Canada on Monday, January 15th at 8 am BST.

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SHiiNZoN

Looking forward to it as usual :) Great Show

January 11, 2018 3:20 pm

Benjamin Adams

The last time I was on the edge of my seat like this waiting for a Trek episode, it was “Best of Both Worlds Pt. 2.”

January 11, 2018 3:51 pm

somethoughts

Agreed, I wish it was 2hr special last week. I need moooRrrreee now! This has been the best star trek since the 90s. To think they filmed all these episodes in Toronto my home town is amazing.

January 11, 2018 8:51 pm

Scott Gammans

(Oops, I meant to put the post that used to be here in the other thread about the producers consulting GLAAD. The comment makes absolutely no sense here, but since trekmovie.com’s discussion board software doesn’t allow comments to be deleted, I am doing this instead. Apologies!)

January 11, 2018 3:55 pm

Trek in a Cafe

Suspecting that Lorca has been a mirror version the entire time has made me rewatch a few of the episodes in a completely different way. Perhaps this is what the producers have intended the entire time.

When Burhnam has the dream of her spore-boxed self, it’s clear that the part of her personality that is in conflict is not just between her Human and Vulcan identities. Is it nothing more than a metaphor?

Rewatching Lethe makes me think that Cornwall knows everything. She is the key to understanding whatever is up with Lorca; she knows or heavily suspects it. Throughout the episode she keeps saying that he’s lying or being deceitful. She may even, somehow, know that he is from the mirror universe, and this mirror version of himself is smart enough and ambitious enough to keep the charade.

Near the end of Lethe, Michael says to Tilly, “Find your own way to the captain’s chair.” Why does Tilly reply, “I have.”? At this point I can only wonder if the mirror Tilly has already been with us the entire time. Or has some unknown weird relationship with Lorca. He never pays attention to her at all.

January 11, 2018 3:57 pm

Karl

I think you’re over analysing Tilly and Cornwell there. Guess we’ll know soon though for sure!

January 11, 2018 6:00 pm

Captain Mateo

I like this. Agreed, Cornwall knows that after the destruction of Lorca’s last starship he changed. Maybe she does have data on a space anomolie during that battle but at least she knows he is radically different and the war only saved him from being properly vetted for command.
Considering that you cannot create nor destroy matter/energy in any universe, how in the hell is Tyler fighting Voq in the trailer? They have been getting the physics pretty good up until now, all things considering of course it’s a tv show but still.

January 11, 2018 8:21 pm

Marja

Mateo,
I don’t think that could possibly be Voq, unless he’s standing in a ditch.
Remember, to “be” Tyler, Voq had to have lengths of bone removed from his body.
Brrrrrr

January 11, 2018 9:36 pm

Trek in a Cafe

I also think they should have named Lorca’s previous ship something distinctive, but it’s almost like they didn’t in order to make it seem real and not draw too much attention to it.So far.

To distract myself from Trump and to educate myself about the original long form series, this September I began the series Babylon 5. I finished a few days ago (!!) In the series, Sheridan’s wife was killed in a ship which was destroyed off screen which is no spoiler – but every once in a while, the narrative dipped into repercussions from that to very dramatic effect.

For anyone else interested, it streams now for the first time, for free, on an app call “go90”

@ Trek in a Cafe:
What a perfect series. One big story arc, several story strings over seasons or a certain amount of episodes. And a finished micro story in almost every episode. For rewatching, there are several major important key episodes.

Still watching B5 from time to time, sigh.

January 12, 2018 1:43 pm

Jefferies Tuber

I was definitely feeling the Mirror Lorca theory, that Mirror Lorca learned of the Defiant, assassinated himself and his crew in the prime universe, and set about assembling an A-team of Killy and Burnham to take down Emperor Georgiou. One could even take the theory so far as to suggest that a Mirror Lorca would be an idealistic revolutionary [ie, not evil] in the Mirror Empire–because Prime Lorca is a dark figure, designated a war Captain by Starfleet.

But when you watch “Despite Yourself,” he’s on the verge of speaking to the Cooper as its Captain, and then seems genuinely shocked and aggrieved to learn Tilley is the Captain the Discovery. So I don’t know.

January 12, 2018 1:26 pm

Captain Mateo

He still could be acting very well during all the moments he could be outed as belonging in the mirror universe. The actor is portraying his character a bit different now that they are in the mirror universe.

When seeing them on screen in movement, they are really superior fashion :D

January 12, 2018 5:57 am

Vulcan Soul

I’m more distracted by Burnham’s “Marge Simpson” hairstyle – mirror or not! Is it too 2017 or too #MeToo or should we just get something new next year?

January 12, 2018 9:38 am

Captain D

Really? Marge Simpson has over two feet of blue beehive and yet she somehow reminded you of Michael Burnham. Talk about a stretch…

January 12, 2018 12:49 pm

SanFranDisco

What does the #metoo thing have to do with it?

January 12, 2018 2:55 pm

PaulB

@Vulcan Soul – What an insanely stupid comment. Try making sense next time instead of just stringing together words. “Is it too 2017 or too #MeToo…” <–WTF? Pure gibberish.

January 13, 2018 6:50 am

Eric Cheung

It’s a natural hairstyle, very deliberate on the part of the people who make the show, as a reaction against Western and white standards of beauty. And it’s about damn time. It’s not too 2017, considering it’s a hairstyle that has been around for millennia, anymore than Geordi’s was too 1987.

January 13, 2018 9:41 pm

Dana Farricker

I wonder if Mirror Trump is as much of a moron, racist and traitor as this universe’s Trump is.

January 12, 2018 6:11 am

Garak Stole My Scissors

Here we go with the politics.

January 12, 2018 6:16 am

Dana Farricker

Star Trek has ALWAYS involved politics. If that bothers you, then you should try another franchise. It’s entirely relevant. Complaining about politics being discussed on a Star Trek fan site is nonsensical–it shows a lack of understanding of Star Trek.

January 12, 2018 7:17 am

DataMat

What franchise does not involve politics?

January 12, 2018 7:30 am

Dana Farricker

Fraggle Rock. I think people like Garak Stole My Scissors might be happier discussing that one.

January 12, 2018 9:41 am

James

I wonder if this is the mirror universe!

January 12, 2018 10:13 am

Legate Damar

He’ said probably a caring and intelligent statesman over there.

January 12, 2018 11:29 am

Shilliam Watner

What Trump said was spot on. Even the founders would agree with him. Read the Naturalization Act of 1790, the very first legislation by the first Congress. He’s making America great again. Actually the Clinton’s scammed the Haiti relief fund to line their own pockets. Getting to this next episode, I’m looking forward to it. I think these remanding episodes will all be in the mirror universe.

Sorry but there’s been a few changes since 1790. The nineteenth and twentieth centuries for example.

January 12, 2018 2:56 pm

SanFranDisco

What he said was was disrespectful and unbecoming of a statesmen who’s supposed to be the leader of the free world. That is perhaps his biggest flaw; A President has the ability to set a tone and Trump is lowering the bar for discourse and decorum.

I had a Jewish friend get told off by a long term associate and called all sorts of horrific slurs, out of the blue, and he remarked “Thank God Trump is Preusdent and I don’t have to be afraid to say these things now.”

Trumps dismissal and approval of Nazis, his disrespect for immigrants and foreign countries is telling people it’s OK to be racist and bigoted.

Mirror Trump is a distinguished statesman who has inspired the country to be better than under the tyrannical Mirror Barack Obama (who was born in kenya).

January 12, 2018 3:04 pm

Phil

Lorca seems to be spending a lot of time in the Agony Booth. A. Lot. Of. Time.

January 12, 2018 10:36 am

I\'m Dead Jim

Bet that when this is over, if he survives, Lorca manages to bring back an agonizer booth for his collection.

This evening I watched episode 10 again, this was the 5th time for me. I almost can’t wait for the next one.

This said, I have a fun theory in David Lynch style about Voq:
A Klingon with a strange light color who is son of no one? Of course he is the transformed original Spock with a not so perfect surgery. Voq’s personality is just a layer above Spock’s to infiltrate the Klingons for the Vulcans. But the Klingons have the same idea before Spock’s personality can be triggered and implement a third layer – Ash Tyler. The season will end with a shocked Michael Burnham, realizing she loved her brother in law…