The first one is very nice but a tad on the "flat" side despite the fact that the histogram look nearly perfect. But, just pulling in the right side slider to just under where the histogram begins will ge a long way to clearing the haze.

I keep getting to the party late.....when there is nothing else helpful to add. I'll say though that I think you did a fantastic job with the first shot. A little extra PP work and it's a first class winner. Okay wait.....I'm gonna pick a nit now because I imagine you want any and all feedback right? The right hand propping her head up is showing just enough to look like a deformed ear. Okay.....that's pushing it!:biggrin:

In the second photo there's something about the skin tone/MU against the BG color that isn't really gelling for me, but I like the pose and lighting. Did she do her own MU?

The first one is very nice but a tad on the "flat" side despite the fact that the histogram look nearly perfect. But, just pulling in the right side slider to just under where the histogram begins will ge a long way to clearing the haze.

Things to consider: Healing Brush out those fine lines under her eyes, lack of texture in skin, sharpening... could be just little sharper.

PM me with your e-mail address, I have something for you.

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Thanks so much Woody. I used your defog action and I was very happy with the results - I like how you added a "lite" version. After a complete edit on the image, using yours and the other suggestions on this post, I liked the image so much that I made it my new MM avatar.

I keep getting to the party late.....when there is nothing else helpful to add. I'll say though that I think you did a fantastic job with the first shot. A little extra PP work and it's a first class winner. Okay wait.....I'm gonna pick a nit now because I imagine you want any and all feedback right? The right hand propping her head up is showing just enough to look like a deformed ear. Okay.....that's pushing it!:biggrin:

In the second photo there's something about the skin tone/MU against the BG color that isn't really gelling for me, but I like the pose and lighting. Did she do her own MU?

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Thanks for your comments Stuart. I am very grateful for any and all feedback.

Great point about her hand. I think I have an idea on how to fix that.

The second shot does not seem to be a favorite. I agree it does not really work. I like the hair light though :biggrin:

I had my friend Kerri, who teaches hair at a beauty school, do the Hair/MU. The MU was my fault to be honest with you. Kerri asked me what I wanted, but I did not really know how to answer the question. I know now that I need to have a plan for EVERYTHING. It's all about the details.

Nice job Fred. Boy, I'm glad Stu mentioned the hidden hand that resembles a "deformed ear". Exactly what I thought when I saw it! I can't find any fault in the 2nd. Nice going! As you're finding out, the devil really is in the details, isn't it!?

Nice job Fred. Boy, I'm glad Stu mentioned the hidden hand that resembles a "deformed ear". Exactly what I thought when I saw it! I can't find any fault in the 2nd. Nice going! As you're finding out, the devil really is in the details, isn't it!?

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Thanks for you comments Steve. I think I have an idea on how to fix the hand. .........oh those details. :smile:

Try using the Burn tool to darken the area above her eye... like where eye shadow would be. I think it would help give more shape to her eyes. Try it on Highlights at 10% and 0 hardness, and gradually build it up.

You have the idea and it's well executed. Cloning hair to cover things is something I do frequently. Just watch two things... "seams" and repeating patterns. It's a lot easier to use the Clone Stamp than to copy paste. You have one small seam that needs fixing and you can do that with the Healing Brush.

Another thing too. B&W works best when an image has two qualities... contrast and texture. That's what's keeping this from being an outstanding conversion. It's a beautiful shot, just pretty flat for B&W.

Try using the Burn tool to darken the area above her eye... like where eye shadow would be. I think it would help give more shape to her eyes. Try it on Highlights at 10% and 0 hardness, and gradually build it up.

You have the idea and it's well executed. Cloning hair to cover things is something I do frequently. Just watch two things... "seams" and repeating patterns. It's a lot easier to use the Clone Stamp than to copy paste. You have one small seam that needs fixing and you can do that with the Healing Brush.

Another thing too. B&W works best when an image has two qualities... contrast and texture. That's what's keeping this from being an outstanding conversion. It's a beautiful shot, just pretty flat for B&W.

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Thanks for so many excellent tips. I am excited to go in and reprocess the image.

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