Well i just looked at the lowest review, it's 75/100 and short written text says:

Fun and simple with loads of content to keep us busy. It's artistically brilliant, and its OST is a masterpiece. However it's extremely easy and too simple when it comes to the game mechanics. We still have to wait and see what is yet to come, so there's definitely room for improvement. It could have been better, but it's still special.

That was posted on October the second, before any heroic raids were avaible or pvp gear was obtainable. Despite that what "game mechanics" are expected? The full review isn't avaible so it's hard to tell but there are many improvements being made between every expansion release and they never wanted to recreate the game totally - that's for sure. As mentioned a few post above, i'd wait a little longer before releasing a review that seems only based on the quests. And we all know those regular quests aren't the major part of an mmo over.

I did not like the fact Gamesradar reviewed MoP before all 3 raids and the PVP season were out.

---------- Post added 2012-10-13 at 03:58 PM ----------

Originally Posted by klausistklaus

Well i just looked at the lowest review, it's 75/100 and short written text says:

Fun and simple with loads of content to keep us busy. It's artistically brilliant, and its OST is a masterpiece. However it's extremely easy and too simple when it comes to the game mechanics. We still have to wait and see what is yet to come, so there's definitely room for improvement. It could have been better, but it's still special.

That was posted on October the second, before any heroic raids were avaible or pvp gear was obtainable. Despite that what "game mechanics" are expected? The full review isn't avaible so it's hard to tell but there are many improvements being made between every expansion release and they never wanted to recreate the game totally - that's for sure. As mentioned a few post above, i'd wait a little longer before releasing a review that seems only based on the quests. And we all know those regular quests aren't the major part of an mmo over.

No matter who is reviewing doesn't make it it factual. It's all opinionated no matter who is reviewing. All those companies like IGN who review games are just like us, they're not some super video game experts who knows everything about every game.

Erh... they are professional game reviewers still, or most are. Obviously professional critics aren't going to as easily give scores as what people on a fan site like this belief their game should get as score.

Seriously, for every single game that we don't give at least 90+ / 100 we get threat mails and e-mails sent by angry fans, no matter how crap the game actually is. A few months ago we received threat mails because a review for a desktop card game we wrote didn't receive close to 100/100 and the person who wrote the letter sounded extremely upset, we even had to call the authorities because he was saying how depressed he was, how shit the world had become and that he might just end his life because magazines don't give honest reviews anymore ... because his card game didn't get a perfect score. *coughs*

Erh... they are professional game reviewers still, or most are. Obviously professional critics aren't going to as easily give scores as what people on a fan site like this belief their game should get as score.

Seriously, for every single game that we don't give at least 90+ / 100 we get threat mails and e-mails sent by angry fans, no matter how crap the game actually is. A few months ago we received threat mails because a review for a desktop card game we wrote didn't receive close to 100/100 and the person who wrote the letter sounded extremely upset, we even had to call the authorities because he was saying how depressed he was, how shit the world had become and that he might just end his life because magazines don't give honest reviews anymore ... because his card game didn't get a perfect score. *coughs*

Yeah but even you have to admit Anarchor, it's not professional to review a game whose full content (at initial launch) isn't out yet. Come on.

People were reviewing the game before the raids even hit, not to mention the heroic modes, AND the PVP season.

Yeah but even you have to admit Anarchor, it's not professional to review a game whose full content (at initial launch) isn't out yet. Come on.

People were reviewing the game before the raids even hit, not to mention the heroic modes, AND the PVP season.

To play devil's advocate, I think it generally goes implicitly understood that any post-launch MMO reviews are there reviewing their launch content, and maybe MoP's approach isn't to those reviewers' tastes. That's fair, and just like Atrahasis, you can't hold a gun to their head to agree with you and me that MoP is the most fun this game's been since Wrath.

Funny. I've been playing in non-stop since it came out and I still haven't leveled a monk, done much pet battling, nor seeing much of the first raid. How can they make reviews when they likely haven't taken the time to absorb themselves into the game.

EDIT: We're not talking about the USER SUBMITTED REVIEWS on metacritic here (which can be ignored), we're talking about the actual CRITIC Reviews from respected people like IGN, eurogamer and gamespot.

You mean the metacritic score that goes up or down depending on whether or not the company is willing to pay?

You should always take those reviews sites with a pinch of salt. Those sites are stating there opinion on the game.
When I watch Totalbiscuits first impression videos, I don't consider his opinion the holy grail nor do I consider mine that.

I'm enjoying this expansion far more than Wrath and especially more than Cataclysm so far.
It's kind of crazy just how much reviewers actually effect on games because people are too blind sided and can't state there own opinion on a subject instead they simply just google "World of Warcraft Mists of Pandaria review" and be like "Oh, this guy says it's bad. This game sucks."

You should always take those reviews sites with a pinch of salt. Those sites are stating there opinion on the game.
When I watch Totalbiscuits first impression videos, I don't consider his opinion the holy grail nor do I consider mine that.

I'm enjoying this expansion far more than Wrath and especially more than Cataclysm so far.
It's kind of crazy just how much reviewers actually effect on games because people are too blind sided and can't state there own opinion on a subject instead they simply just google "World of Warcraft Mists of Pandaria review" and be like "Oh, this guy says it's bad. This game sucks."

Yeah but even you have to admit Anarchor, it's not professional to review a game whose full content (at initial launch) isn't out yet. Come on.

People were reviewing the game before the raids even hit, not to mention the heroic modes, AND the PVP season.

Same happened for Vanilla, TBC, WotLK and Cataclysm. Some of the reviewers actually did see some of the raid content. The only reason why the scores for MoP are a bit lower now is because Blizzard lost a good amount of trust because of Diablo3 but most importantly Cataclysm, and the whole monthly subscribers system is catching flak too.

People often say that reviewers are doing it wrong when the public doesn't agree with them. The problem is that the public is much bigger than the people who play MoP. If MoP had gotten a 90 again all the people who play other games like CoD, LoL, GW2, SW etc. would've been putting the forums on fire or complaining about how our reviews make no sense and that the game is absolutely shit and should've gotten less than 50, etc. etc.

A WoW fan is obviously going to give his favourite game 90+ as score, someone who never played an mmo before might start playing and not enjoy the game at all and give it a 50/100 ... The scores of games are based on the market, and the market is growing ... with a lot of very casual players who don't have the time to enjoy or understand a game like WoW.

The best questing in World of Warcraft, with strong emphasis on storytelling, resulting in an entertaining run from 85 to 90 that seldom tumbles into tedium.

Rated the leveling experience, not the entire expansion.

Originally Posted by GameSpy

World of Warcraft is one of the few MMORPGs that manages to pull off a satisfying endgame (and thereby justify its outdated subscription model), and the classes and gameplay have reached a blinding level of polish over the last seven years. While it's no longer the only choice out there for a great MMO experience, World of Warcraft seems content with its place.

OMG OP you are totally right. I will cancel my sub instantly because a few people on the internet hate the game. I'll have to quit liking this game and find something cooler like all those superduper cool CoD games!

Same happened for Vanilla, TBC, WotLK and Cataclysm. Some of the reviewers actually did see some of the raid content. The only reason why the scores for MoP are a bit lower now is because Blizzard lost a good amount of trust because of Diablo3 but most importantly Cataclysm, and the whole monthly subscribers system is catching flak too.

People often say that reviewers are doing it wrong when the public doesn't agree with them. The problem is that the public is much bigger than the people who play MoP. If MoP had gotten a 90 again all the people who play other games like CoD, LoL, GW2, SW etc. would've been putting the forums on fire or complaining about how our reviews make no sense and that the game is absolutely shit and should've gotten less than 50, etc. etc.

A WoW fan is obviously going to give his favourite game 90+ as score, someone who never played an mmo before might start playing and not enjoy the game at all and give it a 50/100 ...

I actually have a good argument for you.

THis is my first year in college.

I was talking to some kids that played WoW in Vanilla/BC and quit cuz they hated the game.

I was talking to some kids who played a Trial of WoW OR never even played it, and hated it.

I showed them Mists while I was playing. I told them to, if anything, try it, and let them make characters on my account while we were together.

They absolutely loved it.

This is why I hate reviewers.

They deter players away from a game they're not even willing to try.

But because I did that, I gave Blizzard 11 new and old subscribers :P.

An expansion doesn't show it's true colours right after it's released every decent gamer knows that. It'll either end up worth the time and price of admission like I (am of the opinion) believe BC/Wrath did, or it won't (again) like I believe Cataclysm did.

<Usual schmuck about how much weight reviews should actually have on your perception>

Last edited by Aqua; 2012-10-13 at 04:20 PM.

Originally Posted by savutitus

Yeah, it's always WAR WAR WAR untill..BY ALL THAT IS HOLY DO YOU SEE THAT ENEMY OVER THERE?? GLORIOUS LOOT!!!!!

"professional" critics are much like the big names in games development

Nongamers

They need to stop making it such a job and give the critics more time to actually play games then they might actually have a clue what they are on about. Same for games developers.

Games used to be made by gamers for gamers. They are now made by hard working people who dont have a lot of time for games
Games used to be reviewed by gamers. they are now reviewed by people who work hard at deadlines and writing things ect ect.
Get the gamers back into the games industry and kick out all these fakes or we are going to end up a joke like the movie industry.