From what i can see, You guys have created a reality on Bimmerboost where Shiv is the evil protagonist and must be stopped at all costs. I feel like the Internet can remove basic human sensibilities from our interactions. Just like you, Shiv is a human being with a mother, father, and siblings. He is confident, he has insecurities. He is intelligent, he sometimes does dumb things. He cares for others, he can be selfish. He is honest, occasionally he can be misleading. He is HUMAN!!

Honestly, I find this forum very depressing. There is a dark cloud of dispair hanging over it. Be loud, be proud and above all be POSITIVE. We're a small community, lets build each other up. Enough with all the negativity. Regardless of what you think of a Shiv, this obsession with trying to destroy his livelihood seems a little narsasistic. Our time on Earth is short. Spend it with joy in your heart and with the intention that when you leave this world, it will be a slightly better place because of the things you did and the way you conducted yourself.

It would be nice if my message wasn't followed up by all the terrible things Shiv has done. Leave it alone. Live and let live.

Hey guys, another quick question, since i think i was misunderstanding the VIN-locked BT cable's role in all this. So their "VIN Lock" only has to do with their software, Ie: if i found a used cable for cheap that had it's 3 VINs used up, that cable would still work with the Open Source Flash Loader?

I was under the impression before that the BT Cable's VIN Lock would be enforced with the Open Source Flash loader software. I was really confused because everybody was saying there would be no VIN-lock with the Open Source project, but I kept thinking to myself that isn't right if it requires a cable that is VIN-locked (except for the outrageously expensive Professional versions).

this obsession with trying to destroy his livelihood seems a little narsasistic. Our time on Earth is short. Spend it with joy in your heart and with the intention that when you leave this world, it will be a slightly better place because of the things you did and the way you conducted yourself.

Right, trying to destroy his livelihood is the reasoning. It's all pooling of resources for one minor tuner trying to figure out how to make a quick buck off the community this week. It has nothing to do with, oh, trying to open tuning up for the entire community as was promised and then snatched away for whatever reason.

Where were you then? Where were you to help make this a better place by putting in the effort to do the right thing and not allow someone to set progress backward for some dollars?

Last I checked, there are people doing this work FOR FREE versus someone trying to figure out the best way to slow progress for profit.

Hey guys, another quick question, since i think i was misunderstanding the VIN-locked BT cable's role in all this. So their "VIN Lock" only has to do with their software, Ie: if i found a used cable for cheap that had it's 3 VINs used up, that cable would still work with the Open Source Flash Loader?

I was under the impression before that the BT Cable's VIN Lock would be enforced with the Open Source Flash loader software. I was really confused because everybody was saying there would be no VIN-lock with the Open Source project, but I kept thinking to myself that isn't right if it requires a cable that is VIN-locked (except for the outrageously expensive Professional versions).

Thanks for your help.

The way I have understood it, even if the cable has used all the remaining VIN's it will work fine with this flashing project.

Hey guys, another quick question, since i think i was misunderstanding the VIN-locked BT cable's role in all this. So their "VIN Lock" only has to do with their software, Ie: if i found a used cable for cheap that had it's 3 VINs used up, that cable would still work with the Open Source Flash Loader?

I was under the impression before that the BT Cable's VIN Lock would be enforced with the Open Source Flash loader software. I was really confused because everybody was saying there would be no VIN-lock with the Open Source project, but I kept thinking to myself that isn't right if it requires a cable that is VIN-locked (except for the outrageously expensive Professional versions).

Thanks for your help.

The cable has an integrated circuit internally that supports the different communications protocols for our cars. USB is a much different protocol than something like DCAN, KCAN, etc so the cable works to translate. The VIN lock is inside the circuitry in the cable itsself. Not sure how it works because I don't have one, but probably something like you plug in the cable, and in order to use the cable it will have to be "paired" with a car, then you can use it much like any USB device to flash your ECM or whatever you want. Think of it less as a "cable" and more as a piece of electronics.

There are DCAN cables that do not have to be "paired", but they are cheap and use cheaper chinese circuitry to do the translating. It will be 100% possible to use these at some point in the near future, but the project guys I think just wanted to start with something 100% bulletproof.

Donald shhhhh walk away, no tears will be shed here for sHIV so your wall of text is a waste of your time and everyone else who bothers to read it hoping to find something related to the topic at hand.

From what i can see, You guys have created a reality on Bimmerboost where Shiv is the evil protagonist and must be stopped at all costs. I feel like the Internet can remove basic human sensibilities from our interactions. Just like you, Shiv is a human being with a mother, father, and siblings. He is confident, he has insecurities. He is intelligent, he sometimes does dumb things. He cares for others, he can be selfish. He is honest, occasionally he can be misleading. He is HUMAN!!

Honestly, I find this forum very depressing. There is a dark cloud of dispair hanging over it. Be loud, be proud and above all be POSITIVE. We're a small community, lets build each other up. Enough with all the negativity. Regardless of what you think of a Shiv, this obsession with trying to destroy his livelihood seems a little narsasistic. Our time on Earth is short. Spend it with joy in your heart and with the intention that when you leave this world, it will be a slightly better place because of the things you did and the way you conducted yourself.

It would be nice if my message wasn't followed up by all the terrible things Shiv has done. Leave it alone. Live and let live.

I think you're taking this forum banter a bit too seriously. Most of us have met Shiv at one point or another. He's not the antichrist and I don't think he needs anyone defending him. He throws just as many barbs as he takes. We've all just gotten used to communicating with him in his own language.

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Your reading comprehension needs a little work, brother. At the end of the day, I don't know you, and I don't know what motivates you, but your fixation with Shiv is...interesting.

My fixation with donating my time and money to make things right for no monetary gain? Versus taking advantage of the community with VIN locked and limited software/hardware FOR profit? You are defending one of these versus the other? You sure it's me that needs help with comprehension?

Use a stylus or the tip of a ball point pen (but do not press down hard!) to calibrate. It's a pretty high resolution screen so if your fingertips are as dull as mine, it will never finish calibrating unless u touch with a finer tip.

It is the sole responsibility of the purchaser and installer of any BMS part to employ the correct installation techniques required to ensure the proper operation of BMS parts, and BMS disclaims any and all liability for any part failure due to improper installation or use. It is the sole responsibility of the customer to verify that the use of their vehicle and items purchased comply with federal, state and local regulations. BMS claims no legal federal, state or local certification concerning pollution controlled motor vehicles or mandated emissions requirements. BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways. Please see http://www.burgertuning.com/emissions_info.html for more information on legal requirements related to use of BMS parts.

From what i can see, You guys have created a reality on Bimmerboost where Shiv is the evil protagonist and must be stopped at all costs. I feel like the Internet can remove basic human sensibilities from our interactions. Just like you, Shiv is a human being with a mother, father, and siblings. He is confident, he has insecurities. He is intelligent, he sometimes does dumb things. He cares for others, he can be selfish. He is honest, occasionally he can be misleading. He is HUMAN!!

Honestly, I find this forum very depressing. There is a dark cloud of dispair hanging over it. Be loud, be proud and above all be POSITIVE. We're a small community, lets build each other up. Enough with all the negativity. Regardless of what you think of a Shiv, this obsession with trying to destroy his livelihood seems a little narsasistic. Our time on Earth is short. Spend it with joy in your heart and with the intention that when you leave this world, it will be a slightly better place because of the things you did and the way you conducted yourself.

It would be nice if my message wasn't followed up by all the terrible things Shiv has done. Leave it alone. Live and let live.

It's precisely these feelings that I share. While I might have problems with certain business practices, the "dark cloud" you speak of is one of the reasons why I took so long to register for this forum, or even say anything. It's the tuning war I don't have a palate for. I just want a fast, solid car. I'd positive rep you if I had enough points to do so.

It's precisely these feelings that I share. While I might have problems with certain business practices, the "dark cloud" you speak of is one of the reasons why I took so long to register for this forum, or even say anything. It's the tuning war I don't have a palate for. I just want a fast, solid car. I'd positive rep you if I had enough points to do so.

If this is too rough and open for you there are heavily censored alternatives where you won't have to put in much thought and where it's watered down to a PG level. Might be more your speed.

I don't think they realize that pretty much everyone is at each other's throats all the time. That's not very nice but it is realistic. The other board doesn't show it as much because it's so heavily censored and moderated. Unfortunately, it's not done so in anything like an unbiased manner, so you see a bunch of positive posts there about one vendor in particular, and think this forum is a dark cloud in comparison. The world isn't always a nice sunshiny place; at least here you have to back up what you say, and unless someone is really out of line, whatever you write stays. I'd rather see reality personally. As a side note, there are some vendors here which do not "engage the enemy", so all types do exist here. Bottom line is that it's the choice between equal ground (Shiv could be a vendor if he chose to) and the mess that sometimes comes with that, or big brother moderating everything for you so that what a few have decided goes.

When I want to hear propaganda, be entertained by some new Shivalry, read about how to void warranties with non authorized car fresheners, or the occasional helpful DIY, I check them out. Otherwise here is where it's at.

and the mess that sometimes comes with that, or big brother moderating everything for you so that what a few have decided goes.

And if there are posts members don't want to read, the members can remove them themselves as a group. Since the vast majority of posts are not negatively rated that should go to show people prefer to not have content filtered for them. They prefer to make their own choice.