If you do not believe in God, start listing the things you believe in.

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

(01-11-2012 04:51 AM)Magoo Wrote: You say that if you had a religious experience, you would just brush it off. But really you wouldn't, as long as it looked real in their eyes, nothing else will convince them.

I must say I am a little confused at that statement.. It seemed to have changed a little at some point on it's way to the finish line.

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(01-11-2012 04:51 AM)Magoo Wrote: You say that if you had a religious experience, you would just brush it off. But really you wouldn't, as long as it looked real in their eyes, nothing else will convince them.

I must say I am a little confused at that statement.. It seemed to have changed a little at some point on it's way to the finish line.

If you do not believe in God, start listing the things you believe in.

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.

Nope. We know how life could have started with no creator. (See the Szostak videos on YouTube). It also could have been seeded from elsewhere. Love is a human emotion, anthropomorphically projected onto god(s). It's actually good evidence against a god.
I don't think I would actually consider it evidence for a god but it might give me pause IF, in conjunction with a god claim there was to be seen, or found something totally 100 percent "unique", or "other" from human culture. All gods, known so far, arise from the cultures that create them. If one were to be seen, with knowledge that was unknown in the culture, (for example if Jesus had told the followers about Penicillin, or how to do a Mitral Valve replacement), then one would have to take a look. Today if a god would appear who told us about what exists outside this universe, and how to verify the claim, or what Dark Energy is or something we don't know, or can't explain, maybe I would look. It will never happen.

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Those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music - Friedrich Nietzsche

The only way I could believe in a deity is if he gave me magic powers. By magic I mean abilities that defy physics, like telekinesis, teleportation, conjuring a flaming sword, casting magic missile... And even then, it would need to be permanent so that I could be sure that it wasn't just a dream. I would need to test my abilities a lot and check for consistencies every morning for a long time to be sure I'm not hallucinating. Even then, it would not prove the god to be that of any religion, only that a being exists who has powers that contradict scientific understanding.

If something can be destroyed by the truth, it might be worth destroying.