If this is your first visit, be sure to
check out the FAQ by clicking the
link above. You may have to register
before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages,
select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Welcome to CycloneFanatic.com. I notice you haven't taken the time to register yet, now is as good of time as any:)

Jet Tempo on Offense

Reading some things that the offense will try a "jet pace" periodically this Fall. I am extremely excited to see this pace in action, instead of the mind-numbing hurry up, then pause, then look to the sidelines. Everyone always points to the success that OU has with this pace. My only concern is that OU also has a stable of 4-5 star athletes that can be rotated in from down-to-down or series-to-series without much drop in talent. I definitely think our depth has really improved, but don't know if our program is quite at a level where this pace is possible -- yet. Again, not questioning coaches, as they know best. I just wondered what other fanatics felt about this. No matter what, I will be excited to see how it works.

Re: Jet Tempo on Offense

I think Herman wanted to run the "Hurry Up" or Jet offense but because of the limitations that they had on Defense the staff realized that it probably wouldn't win many ball games if they did that so they ran the "No Huddle" to manage the tempo and clock. They did run the Jet on occasion when they felt it would catch the defense but not that often because of the extra burden it would put on the D. Now they think they have the pieces in place on D to finally implement the Jet and "Hurry Up" whenever they want.

Re: Jet Tempo on Offense

I have no frame of reference for this, but I would venture to guess that the mental aspect of calling plays and accurately communicating them to the team that quickly is a bigger challenge than the physical side. Of course you get out of breath and all that stuff moving at a quicker pace, but if guys don't know their routes or blocking schemes, it just becomes a faster way to go 3 and out.

Re: Jet Tempo on Offense

That's what practice is for. Ultimately I think it's tougher on a defense since they have to react to what the offense is doing.

You can spend a lot of time and money picking out the perfect floral bouquet for your date ... but you're probably better off checking if you have bad breath and taking the porn out of the glove compartment.

The moral: you gain more by not being stupid, than you do by being smart. Smart gets neutralized by other smart people. Stupid does not.

Re: Jet Tempo on Offense

Originally Posted by CloneSolo

Reading some things that the offense will try a "jet pace" periodically this Fall. I am extremely excited to see this pace in action, instead of the mind-numbing hurry up, then pause, then look to the sidelines. Everyone always points to the success that OU has with this pace. My only concern is that OU also has a stable of 4-5 star athletes that can be rotated in from down-to-down or series-to-series without much drop in talent. I definitely think our depth has really improved, but don't know if our program is quite at a level where this pace is possible -- yet. Again, not questioning coaches, as they know best. I just wondered what other fanatics felt about this. No matter what, I will be excited to see how it works.

Ready for some Football!

I saw this in the Register earlier today. This is no-huddle offense where everyone stands around for 35 seconds looking at the sideline, right?

Re: Jet Tempo on Offense

I really have no problem with the no-huddle "check" offense. It is a way to control defensive substitutions, and allow for audible adjustments as well. I would prefer the faster tempo if we could manipulate that to our advantage though.

Re: Jet Tempo on Offense

First of all Robert McFarland was an idiot, Wayne Bolt as well. So the look to the sidelines and then getting a delay of game penalty I hope are over with. This will be an interesting year for the offense because its year 3 of the system with a qb likely built to run it like it should be run, plus it seems like this is a very hungry team that has talent. So I think IMO Tom Herman will look like the guy that we brought to Ames, not the guy we have seen call a game the last 2 years. The defense I feel is extremely under rated, especially the D-Line, Dutch, Lattimer, and Maggitt I think are good B12 players that will make some noise this year. The rest of the guys if we can rotate them will play above their potential because of those 3. I love that play at Texas when Gilbert was obliterated by Lattimer, I watch it 3 times a week at least, looking forward to see more of that.

Re: Jet Tempo on Offense

I don't think physical talent has anything to do with successfully running the jet offense. It's more about the offense being on the same page and the QB being able to read defensive alignments. We ran it really well against Nebraska last year...other time not so much.

Re: Jet Tempo on Offense

Originally Posted by mcblogerson

As long as it's far from the "mcfarland" offense of, get to the line, stare at the sideline for 20 seconds, then get a delay of game penalty.

You got that all wrong. First the offense has to call a timeout to avoid a delay of game penalty. So they go to the sideline and huddle up with the coaches. Then they head back onto the field and get lined up and then stare over at the sideline for 20 seconds and get a delay of game penalty. I will never forget that sequence from the Iowa State vs. Iowa game a few years back. I nearly pulled the tv off of the wall and spiked it on the floor. How do you come out of a timeout just as confused or more confused then you were prior to that? Poor coaching is the only reason for that epic fail.

Re: Jet Tempo on Offense

Originally Posted by Peter

I don't think physical talent has anything to do with successfully running the jet offense. It's more about the offense being on the same page and the QB being able to read defensive alignments. We ran it really well against Nebraska last year...other time not so much.

IIRC... it seemed like our offense excelled at running a faster pace set in 2 minute situations. I remember thinking to myself wondering why we didn't play with that tempo more often. Kind of ****** me off.

Re: Jet Tempo on Offense

The jet can be an amazing tool when used correctly. Oklahoma and Oregon used it correctly during the regular season but when a team gets more than 5 days to prepare for it the surprise is gone. I like when teams vary the tempo a little during the game like ISU did periodically last year. When you have a team on their heels speed up the tempo but if the offense isn't having success and seems flustered when running the jet then slow it down for a few plays.

I definitely hope to see more of it next year but mostly after big plays or if you feel you can catch the D in an alignment that will help out the next play.

Re: Jet Tempo on Offense

Originally Posted by Cyclonestate78

You got that all wrong. First the offense has to call a timeout to avoid a delay of game penalty. So they go to the sideline and huddle up with the coaches. Then they head back onto the field and get lined up and then stare over at the sideline for 20 seconds and get a delay of game penalty. I will never forget that sequence from the Iowa State vs. Iowa game a few years back. I nearly pulled the tv off of the wall and spiked it on the floor. How do you come out of a timeout just as confused or more confused then you were prior to that? Poor coaching is the only reason for that epic fail.

The low point for me came against Baylor in 2008. ISU was first and goal at the ten yard line. This was the following sequence of plays.

All content owned by CycloneFanatic.com - All rights reserved 2005-09. By viewing this website you agree to the Terms of Service, Site Rules and Legal Disclaimer. The words, views, images and opinions expressed or provided by users do not reflect the opinions or views of CycloneFanatic.com or Iowa State University. The names, words, symbols, and graphics representing Iowa State University are trademarks and copyrights of the University protected by the trademark and copyright laws of the United States of America and other countries and are used on this web site under license from the University. Original site design, premise & construction by Jeremy Lind.