that's great about your shoulders. I'm seeing some definition in my arms--it good encouragement for me to be consistent!

The other Joyce board can be accessed by clicking on Other Discussion Boards on upper left of this page, then go to Get Fit w/Vedral. You can't get to it from her site any more so I don't think many people know how to find it.

I like Bone Building. Angie on this board also has it. I like Joyce's workouts--not fancy but they work. I have several others too.

I'm size 14/16 and want to be several sizes smaller. It'll come if I keep up the strength training and add some cardio regularly!