to ten years while doing tax reform, whileincreasingdefensespending,not touching medicare, i mean there's a lot of things that don't add up but because romney has not given the details doesn't give the president the right to make them up for him. he is not going to have a $5 trillion net tax cut. >> absolutely good at details -- >> that's not his plan. >> but i think to say there's a $5 trillion tax cut to be offset by mystery meat. you know, that's a correct statement. >> or -- >> there's a $5 trillion tax cut, well, we don't know what it is he's going to do but what he proposed is a $5 trillion tax cut plus he says, trust me, i'll do something different. >> what can be more legitimate in saying you're proposing $5 trillion in a reduction in revenue. how are you going to pay for this and he says i'm not going to tell you, i'll just let the congress do it. no, these are the things you have to get rid of. child deduction or home mortgage deduction. >> and we're going to have -- he said it. you just don't listen to -- >> the end of the story -- >> you don't want to -- he already wro