Both of them are iconoclasts and have often gone against the grain of the scientific consensus - and good on them.

I think anyone who spends even a little bit of time researching the topic will find themselves unable to entirely dismiss the sheer number of sightings as a hoax, as well as the consistent details they share from such a disparate range of witnesses, over such a lengthy span of time.

There's more going on than can be dismissed by a morning breakfast show host, that much is for sure.