I just watched Han Yan's FS. Was anyone actually at the event because on video he looks like he flies in and out of his jumps it was so impressive especially on the quad and one of the 3F. Does he actually come off like that live? I'd love to watch him live one day.

On another note I really dislike the outside edge camel spins that some guys are doing these days especially when their leg has this weird looking bend in it
(opps i think the spin i saw was in the SP)

I just watched Han Yan's FS. Was anyone actually at the event because on video he looks like he flies in and out of his jumps it was so impressive especially on the quad and one of the 3F. Does he actually come off like that live? I'd love to watch him live one day.

It should look even more impressive live. I hope your wish comes true!

Interesting. Anyone know what the typical age is for these elite male skaters to get a triple axel?

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It's like 16 or 17. Brown is a few days away from 17

Originally Posted by MrScroogeMcDuck

OK, I already lost my temper in another thread tonight, so I am trying to remain calm from now on, but I strongly disagree with this.

Brown displayed senior level ability in a number of areas crucial to PCS. Yes, he is missing a 3A or quad. But he is extremely advanced for his age other than that. Is it too early to declare him the next great competitive skater? Obviously. And I think I've been critical in the past of comments about Sochi. But reactions that are extreme in the other direction are silly, too.

BTW, Evan Lysacek didn't get his triple axel until he was a few months shy of turning 18 and I'd say his senior competitive career certainly went places. Jason is 16. Just something to keep in mind...

I don't know what there is to disagree about. 3A is necessary. Everyone agrees. And that doesn't even mention quads. Think of Adam Rippon. He won a world jr title without a 3A. It probably would have been better if he lost trying with a 3A that time. There is way too much success comes without a 3A mentality in Brown from interviews.

Lysacek had a good career but the 3A held him back a lot of times - jumps were always up in the air and why he was never a frontrunner for much of anything and everyone talked about PCS and transitions.

I just watched Han Yan's FS. Was anyone actually at the event because on video he looks like he flies in and out of his jumps it was so impressive especially on the quad and one of the 3F. Does he actually come off like that live? I'd love to watch him live one day.

Yes, I can attest to that. I was there for the Junior Men today, kind of fun they had that event after the Senior Men LP. Han Yan was flying like a little squirrel jumping from tree top to tree top. He had incredible speed. No wonder, he stated that his idol is Patrick Chan and I can see how Han Yan has a little bit of Patrick Chan in him except the footwork. Otherwise, he got the jumps and speed, just like Patrick Chan.

Yes, I can attest to that. I was there for the Junior Men today, kind of fun they had that event after the Senior Men LP. Han Yan was flying like a little squirrel jumping from tree top to tree top. He had incredible speed. No wonder, he stated that his idol is Patrick Chan and I can see how Han Yan has a little bit of Patrick Chan in him except the footwork. Otherwise, he got the jumps and speed, just like Patrick Chan.

He really did seem like a version of Patrick so much speed in the video! I saw Jason's vid after Han Yan's and thought that he was quite smooth and flowly? on the ice. Were you there for the Men's FS too? I'd imagine that Han was faster than some of the senior men. It must have been a real treat to see the jr men's and men's event live. I am quite jealous >.<

The result is quite disappointing for me. I know, if it were not for the mistake in SP, Yan would have win. The illness really drew him down in the performance. But, I still feel a little shocked at the PCS. At JGP Italy, Yan received a PCS of 71+ with his LP, while he only got 63+ at this competition, in which he delivered a much better performace. Almost 9 points down, that was too big for me to accept ... Watching him struggle to the K&C, with those unstopped bad coughes, makes me heartbreaking. He even coughed all through the medal ceremony.
It was a great competition after all. Hope to see all these young boys do well at JW.