a reply to: Hazardous1408
If you notice this is one of the few threads on this sensitive subject we are managing to keep civil, please don't spoil it for us.

The problem is that they are telling us that our society is bad. I'm sorry, and I honestly mean this with as much respect as I can muster, but
if you are ok with hate speech and have no problem with the reactions in the video then unfortunately you are part of the problem. Please understand I
do not say that because you are Muslim, I say it because of what you type.

I genuinely believe Tommy Robinson is true to his beliefs and is not interested in clicks and hits. Again, just my opinion, I cannot speak for him.

If you're idea of a free world involves hate preaching and extreme views which lead to extreme behavior then you can keep it.

You are totally turning this around now, you posted a video, questioning whether the images of drunk women was what the leaflet talking about
immorality was inspired by. Now you're just talking in circles and still haven't answered my question.

You are totally turning this around now, you posted a video, questioning whether the images of drunk women was what the leaflet talking about
immorality was inspired by. Now you're just talking in circles and still haven't answered my question.

I answered your questions in your edited post. Repeat what question you think I haven't answered.

I never expected to see the day you'd be posting a thread on this guy. To be honest, I didn't think I'd ever see the day when ATS members would be
happily posting videos about him. He's the respectable face of the olden days' National Front or a 'polite company' version of EDL. For me, it's one
of the saddest days I've had on here.

I'd be in favour of knocking down every poisoned Mosque in this country. Rusholme, Finsbury wherever. If there's hatred in there, it seeps into
communities. Even worse, it's obviously having the equal effect in non-Muslim communities when I see people like you waving the flag for Mr Robinson.
Jeez, is this who we turn to in the face of extremism?

I won't defend bad Muslims or extremists; who ever does? If there are bad apples in that Mosque, let the law deal with them. Close it down. On the
other hand, isn't it possible that Mr Robinson's known to the Muslims in the area? They probably know his views and he's walking to the front door
with a cameraman or crew.

In that context, the smirks could be for a number of reasons. Maybe they smirk in the sense of, 'Like hell you're coming in here. You fricken hate
us!' Or, 'Do you think we're idiots?' Of course, you and Mr Robinson could be right and they're smirking out of loathing for UK society or maybe
they've got a big pile of Dibuq mags to hand out.

I won't defend bad Muslims or extremists; who ever does? If there are bad apples in that Mosque, let the law deal with them. Close it down.

Agreed. Making sensationalist videos on Youtube is not helping anything.

It's a sad day indeed. Being realistic, there's an audience for it and Mr Robinson's known views are obviously finding support amongst previously
reasonable, moderate people. Sensationalism has fuelled so much for a couple of years now. It always has, but it seems like it's ratcheted up a good
few notches.

We're in danger of becoming extremists to stop extremists. What's left after that terrible step? Nothing but extremists.

a reply to: Kandinsky
I know. You ask me this time last year what I thought of Tommy Robinson and I'd have gone wild, insults et al.

I'm not sure what's changed. I've lost faith in TPTB more than ever before. I'm getting much more facts and figures from the right side of the fence
than the left. I'm getting much more emotions from the left side of the fence than the right. The facts and figures are more appealing to me now,
whereas before the emotions were more appealing.

I'm trying to look at things with an open mind, I'm paranoid about propaganda and what the MSM is feeding us and what they will not ever talk
about... That's why I'm leaning more and more this way.

Do I like Tommy's style? Yes, I do. I really like his style. I'm sorry, it's not what you want to hear.

I'm still airy fairy, I still meditate, spend time alone in nature, dream about helping the homeless, I'm not racist... I will be completely honest
though and say I have a strong dislike for the Islamic faith, however I also have a strong dislike for the Christian faiths. The only faith I'm down
with is Buddhism.

I dunno Kandinksy, part of me is ringing alarm bells, part of me is blowing war trumpets, part of me wants to forget it all and go fishing.

Tommy Robinson has been slandered and treated like trash because of his alarmism, and his accusers are addicted to state manufactured political
correctness. The sad part is that he was right, never deserved the treatment in the first place, and the people are poorer for having never listened.

The Islamist menace cannot be defeated without the support of the very people who have the most to lose.

Come on, if women want to have a good time then that's their affair. That's what the mainstream British culture is and what women fought for that
right to do. They fought to work, be independent, wear whatever they want, be promiscuous or celibate, be gay or straight, drink or be tea total. If
Muslim men fear liberated women then that's their problem.

We know that hatred of Britain, secularism and free will is often a target in mosques and schools in the UK. We know this because the videos and
narrative is all over the internet. We know that these negative views are manifest in terrorism, child grooming, contempt for thee law, and a lack of
social integration and division.

Time for a change. Time to directly challenge the poison messages propagated by schools and mosques. You start at the top. You start to remove
visiting Imams and stop being tolerant of intolerance. You close down schools that don't teach the conventional curriculum.

Most of all you stop calling people "British Muslims". This just reinforces division. I don't refer to myself as "Hi, I'm a British Christian".

I honestly thought you were posting it to see if it got removed. Like a test of ATS? I couldn't equate you and this sort of thing.

Here we are anyway. Mr Robinson has a loyal fanbase on ATS lol. Who'd have thought?

You have 'alarm bells' and so do I. I think we've all got them going off this year lol.

What makes me paranoid is I see a huge push across social media to divide everyone. We've got our goblins to fear and we don't trust our neighbours.
The language is becoming so generic and everyone's using keywords. I have a suspicion of where they're coming from and where we're being led. When I
see decent guys like yourself, and others too, going down this road it worries me. It says if the better folk can be turned, what chances have the
rest of us got?

Anyway, I have to go. Despite these growing differences, we can still be cool. The Zeitgeist is doing very strange things to people and we;re not
entirely responsible for the changes imo. All the best and no hard feelings whatsoever.

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