Let's bring in our political roundtable. Matthew dowd. Laura Ingraham, James Carville. Former labor secretary, Robert Reich. And Ana Navarro. Mattheth Matthew, let me begin with you. Rand Paul seems to be striking a chord for the gop to change. I think this is a unique territory for republicans. Usually they have a candidate chosen. It's totally different this time. I think Rand Paul does have some of the elements you need to win the nomination. And the general election. He's got the passion, lot of people out there want him. I think he's not yet laid out a policy vision. The third thing is, which has become very important in the republican primary, does he have the probability to win the general election? That's an important element. Laura, you were in new Hampshire with Rand Paul, how did he do? He was very well received. Huckabee had them on their feet and Ted Cruz was walking the stage again without notes, speaking off the cuff. Paul's trying to peel off support from traditionally democracy constituencies. He was well received at Berkeley, secretary rice told me. He's out early and saying a lot. You wonder at times if it's too much too early. James, talked about this point of probability, another word electability. That's the number one -- That's going to be the dominant issue. Fast forward to January 2016, most likely scenario, Hillary Clinton is the presumptive democrat nominee, that's -- they're not going to not nominate somebody because of common core. Trust me. If it loses 2016 presidential election, the republican party knew it will be extinct. This will be the sixth out of seventh election they lost. In popular vote. Republicans want to win this. That's the biggest issue in January 2016. I can beat Hillary Clinton. Have to win this election. Ana Navarro, you know very well the former governor of Florida, Jeb bush, he'll have some trouble with republican base, we saw those comments about immigration. Donald Trump took those comments on at the freedom summit yesterday. That's one I never heard that before. I have heard money, I heard this, I heard sex, everything. I never heard love. I understand what he's saying, but you know, it's out there. I'll tell you. The crowd is on trump's side. Oh, George, please don't make me pretend on national television Donald Trump is politically relevant. And what he thinks and says matters. People understand he's an entertainer. On Jeb bush, look, what you saw from him when he gave that interview, he's not going to bend himself into all sort of shapes into a human pretzel to appeal to one group or another, he's going to be himself. Frankly, after the election in 2012, where that was one of the problems, consistency, I think it's refreshing as a we could vote for him or against him. For the love of god, what exactly do you stand for? And stand by it. Where is his thinking? He's going to make the decision some time next year. Look, he's being very transparent on where he is, what he's saying publicly is very consistent with what he's saying privately to his friends. And he's a very disciplined man. I think he's going to stick to his own internal decisionmaking process. Not to say he's running. He's not run for 12 years. But, I think, that's ironically, that's a help, because over the past ten years, there has been some war in the republican party. A lot of taint has occurred. Anybody who's been in the middle of this battle really isn't appreciated very much by the American people. But the problem is -- the problem continues to be his last name, just like the problem that Hillary has with her last name. Bring out the Jeb, bring out the Jeb, that's going to save the party. Economic dynasty in this country, why not a political dynasty. We're moving in the same direction. In the end, you can focus on whoever the republican nominee is, is it reasonable? The political environment is going to be such, even if Hillary runs, even if she's leading, the likelihood of the country wants to vote for another party. I think Jeb bush's big problem is the base of the republican party. Whatever you think of Donald Trump, he spoke and the crowd reacted yesterday. It was a broad base of people at the summit yesterday. When you mention Jeb bush's name, it was like a wisdom tooth extraction. Okay, there were groans from the audience. But you got all of these big-money republicans saying we need Jeb. Right, with the collapse of Chris Christie they have to go somewhere. The two other people are Scott walker, governor of Wisconsin, because he has access -- and my dark horse candidate is Rick Perry, first of all, the Kentucky derby is coming up, he's been around the course once, he knows what the track is like, secondly, he can raise a bucket load of money. He's governor of Texas. Third, unlike Scott walker, he got a compelling economic story to tell. Someone from the bush/scott walker, I think Rick Perry would be my dark horse. I was at this rodeo before. Rick Perry was the leading candidate in 2012. I didn't say leading I said dark horse. Very dark horse. I want to go back to this point about the last name. I think, frankly, lot of people who don't know Jeb bush yet, are judging him by that last name. That's politics. Yes, frankly, George W. Bush's Numbers are better than Obama's. Whenever you see George W. Bush in three incidents, he's helping a kid in Africa with malaria, helping a woulded warrior, or painting he's become noncontroversial. Noncontroversial in the republican ranks? Hold on, everybody. Stop. One more thing in, before we go, Hillary Clinton is still out there, here's what happened to her this week in Las Vegas. Is that someone throwing something at me? My goodness, I didn't solid waste management was so controversial. Thank goodness she didn't play softball like I did. As we're talking about dynasties here, isn't Hillary Clinton have to change a lot in order to seem fresh in 2016? This is her biggest problem, George. It's 2 1/2 years in the election. There's no other democratic hopeful. And what does she do, how does she keep her name in for 2 1/2 years? She's got to best campaign manager in American history and that is her husband, who probably wants to be the first gentleman of the white house than she wants to be the president. She's a creature of Washington and she is a creature of Wall Street, she can't separate herself from those two things. And that's a huge problem. I disagree with the professor. Keep her name out than keep her name in. Her whole campaign is -- I have a feeling that Hillary is going to say things, do we want to go back to bush era of politics? Or budget surpluses, parties working together? I think she's going to go back Clinton. Good luck Clinton arguing that we shouldn't have another bush in the white house. You know, Hillary is also rusty, she's another one who hasn't had a political position in eight years. Her argument, what do we do to rebuild middle class in this country? Exactly. Well, I think part of the election now has to include a shoe-ducking contest, whoever does it fast. That's the last word. We'll be back.

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