I upgraded to xorg 1.6 today - perhaps i should have left it 'till later...

I followed the upgrade guides, but on attempting to restart X the machine locks, with a black screen and no cursor, and responds to nothing, not even the power button. This doesn't seem to leave much to diagnose. Anyone have any idea how to proceed?

My current status is that, after changes to xorg.conf and kernel configuration, and a lot of rebuilding, I can get KDE to come up, but it locks after anything from seconds to a few minutes. The mouse pointer moves about the screen, but nothing else, including the power button, evokes any response. I get out of it by pulling the power cord. This is safer if you have a journalling filesystem - I use ext3.

Oddly, If I comment out the XSESSION variable in /etc/rc.conf, and then run "startx", FVWM comes up perfectly and stays up. I'm using hal, dbus and evdev for input devices, and this is trickier than it was under xorg 1.5.3

You can track the changes that have worked for me and others, and some that don't, in this forum.

A bit of searching on the web has revealed that many others have this issue, under a wide range of kernels, at least for the intel, nvidia, and ATI video cards. Some have found relief in changing drivers and kernel configuration, but for others, like myself, nothing seems to work.

That happened since i installed gentoo for the first time. Back there i tried to configure my ati 3200HD onboard. With relative success to open fglrx (glitchy, but it opened like ubuntu or arch did the work), my X keep hanging at start. Even with vesa, radeonhd or fglrx it kept hanging. Now i have an nvidia 7300 PCI-E and X hangs in the same way.

When Xorg opens, i can see the screen (twm or even xfce4) without problem, but the keyboard and mouse doesn't work. I tried to rebuild xorg-server with nvidia-drivers and no ati packages, rebuild xf86-input-* packages with no luck

# glibc 2.2 and above expects tmpfs to be mounted at /dev/shm for
# POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink).
# (tmpfs is a dynamically expandable/shrinkable ramdisk, and will
# use almost no memory if not populated with files)
shm /dev/shm tmpfs
nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0

Now running flawlessly. The key is to use the latest ~arch gentoo-sources kernel 2.6.31-r2 and ~arch xf86-video-intel driver 2.9.0, with no xorg.conf at all.

thanks for the report. i finally had luck with no xorg.cong, gentoo-sources-2.6.30-r6, and xf86-video-intel-2.9.0. seems like the newer kernel did the trick, as i had tried the driver first. still trying out KMS, and looking for an rt (real time) kernel that works, but glad to be able to log in and work again.

rickj wrote:

My thanks to all on the forums who helped, and particularly to Remi Cardona on Bugzilla who found the solution - see the bug, now closed.

I've tried to update to the new xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r2 and I got a dozen of bugs mostly related to my keyboard and mouse. XDM is able to start a X session but TWM does not; I gave up and downgraded it again.I didn't tried hard though.

Before putting some real effort on it, I would like to know, what are the improvements of this new version? Mostly, I would like to know if, somehow, they fixed that problem with extra mouse buttons; until last version, you could only have up to 5 fully-featured mouse buttons, 2 axis and the 3 common ones, other extra mouse buttons used to have limited features.

Before putting some real effort on it, I would like to know, what are the improvements of this new version? Mostly, I would like to know if, somehow, they fixed that problem with extra mouse buttons; until last version, you could only have up to 5 fully-featured mouse buttons, 2 axis and the 3 common ones, other extra mouse buttons used to have limited features.

Thanks in advance!

I've got a five button mouse with tilting scroll wheel, effectively nine buttons,
they all work, but I use xbindkeys to make use of them.
Which can probably be done with an older version of X.

It depends on what you are using X for as to whether you upgrade._________________Asus m5a99fx, FX 8320 - amd64-multilib, 3.15.9-zen, glibc-2.19, gcc-4.9.2, eudev
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When Xorg opens, i can see the screen (twm or even xfce4) without problem, but the keyboard and mouse doesn't work.

Are you sure it's actually hung? Maybe you have this infamous evdev problem and your mouse and keyboard just are not picked up?

Edit: You have INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse", to make it work like this you have to add

Code:

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false"
EndSection

to your xorg.conf.

The best way to see whether keyboard/mouse are detected is to look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file
Otherwise it's just hit and miss guessing._________________Asus m5a99fx, FX 8320 - amd64-multilib, 3.15.9-zen, glibc-2.19, gcc-4.9.2, eudev
xorg-server-1.16, openbox w/lxpanel, nouveau, oss4(2011)

I've got a five button mouse with tilting scroll wheel, effectively nine buttons,
they all work, but I use xbindkeys to make use of them.
Which can probably be done with an older version of X.

It depends on what you are using X for as to whether you upgrade.

I got my extra mouse buttons to work too, but with limited features. For example, I cannot set the extra buttons to functions related to dragging (I tried, and it just acts weird), like move or resize. Currently I am using E17 and it allows me to set this kinda of bind for my extra buttons._________________"Nolite arbitrari quia venerim mittere pacem in terram non veni pacem mittere sed gladium" (Yeshua Ha Mashiach)

Hello, everyone! I am quite lost with trying to get X to work. I had been using gentoo as my main system, but that was a few years ago, so I can basically be considered a newbie. I now decided to move back to gentoo since I couldn't really find a better distribution.

This is my problem: when trying to start X, the screen flashes and the video-card fan, which was running at full speed in console, becomes silent, the screen flashes as if changing resolutions, turns on but stays black (completely black, no mouse or text cursor). ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't work, neither does (ctrl)+alt+F1(2/3/..). I am, however, able to return to console login by pressing alt+sysrq+E.
This is on a freshly-installed amd64 system. The system was installed as per online gentoo handbook, followed by Xorg how-to from gentoo desktop documentation, using "Xorg -configure" auto-configured xorg.conf. I did take a look at it and tried changing some settings (namely removing the sections with screen depth less than 16, changing video driver and commenting out dri/glx modules, although Xorg seems to ignore these module settings), but didn't see anything that could, to my knowledge, result in such a behaviour. This result is the same with both nvidia and nv drivers, both with console framebuffer enabled and disabled, and both with manual kernel configuration and "genkernel all" kernel.
The video card is nvidia GeForce 9600 GT on PCI-express bus, connected to a display using DVI output. Gentoo amd64 LiveDVD 10.1 works without any problems without specifying any parameters at boot.
when using the "nv" driver, the last line in Xorg.0.log is this:
(II) NV(0): Setting screen physical size to 480 x 270
with "nvidia" driver, this:
(II) Initializing extension GLX

I will post the complete logs as soon as I reboot into liveDVD, as I cannot at the moment figure out how to do that in links2 console browser.

the VIDEO_CARDS variable was changed and nvidia driver removed when testing with "nv" driver.
If any other files or outputs are needed, I will gladly provide them._________________There is no knowledge that is not power.

Hello again! Turns out that the problem described in my previous post was not at all what it seemed to be. Turns out that Xorg was working fine, just displaying black screen when run with command "X". I thought that this was supposed to show some kind of pattern. Running startx confirmed that both Xorg and nvidia-drivers is working. And mouse/keyboard weren't working because I hadn't started hald. Didn't realize I had to do it, since neither handbook nor Xorg configuration guide mentioned it.
Well, everything works now, so thanks for anyone reading my problem._________________There is no knowledge that is not power.

It's been several months now I'm trying to fix various issues with one machine, a Core2 Duo which has an nvidia card (Ge Force 8800GT) xorg-server-1.6.5-r1 and xorg-x11-7.4-r1. I've tried a whole bunch of nvidia-drivers and any version above 173-14* make my machine freeze. I have to hard reset the computer with the reset button. Xorg log file is empty hence I never know what's wrong... No dependencies are broken BTW.

Is there anything I can do to be able to use more recent drivers? Is it worth trying?

The second issue is about UT2004. Some maps do really s***ck hard (even with all settings low) and don't understand at all what's going wrong. The machine *is* powerful enough (P5QL Pro motherboard with a Core2 Duo, E7300 @ 2.6GHz) and the resolution I'm using is not insanely high (i.e. 1680x1050).

Before I bought the nVidia 8800GT I had an nVidia 6600 (GTS IIRC) and the maps that now lag caused no trouble at all, given the machine was even less powerful (AthlonXP 3200+ running @ 1280x1024). So I'd like to check if the drivers are the problem.

Thanks a whole bunch in advance for any hint/suggestion.

EDIT: I've also tested Ubuntu with nvidia drivers version 183; same freeze. I've then tried to continuously sync my hard drive while starting X and here's what I have:

I've tried several times and the log always ends at Setting mode "nvidia-auto-select". Go figure... And -- oh yes -- the same problem occurs with gentoo-sources-2.6.31-r[78] as well..._________________Gentoo addict: tomorrow I quit, I promise!... Just one more emerge...
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