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Welcome to the Kashimashi ~Girl Meets Girl~ Episode 13 discussion thread. This is the DVD only episode (or OVA) released on the 27th October 2006. Currently I'm not sure how long (in minutes) this OVA will be since there is conflicting information at AniDB and ANN, no doubt someone here will be able to clear this up soon. In addition, we consider the OVA to be licensed as well (see the Kashimashi ~Girl meets Girl~ licensed thread for details).

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Currently I'm not sure how long (in minutes) this OVA will be since there is conflicting information at AniDB and ANN, no doubt someone here will be able to clear this up soon.

Well, the 65 minutes that ANN is referring to is the total running time of the disc including extras, and the extras on the 7th DVD are numerous. I don't think they've announced exactly how long the episode will be, but I'd suspect it'll be somewhere around TV episode length (most Bandai Visual "7th disc" OVAs are like that - think the Please series, Uta~Kata, etc.).

Yeah, we think (we're assuming) that number might be the total running time for the entire DVD ... including extras, menus, etc... which would put the episode itself at the normal 23-25 minutes. Though it would be totally kick ass if the episode was a full 60-65 minutes. But it's doubtful.

I know, and I've already explained why they say that and where they got it from. The episode will not be 65 minutes long.

Edit: Catgirls beat me to it. But a clarification - the reason I know the 65 minutes includes extras is because that's the way all the other DVDs on the site are listed. Needless to say, the episodes on DVD 1 are not "61" minutes long. Don't disagree that it'd be great if it were 65 minutes though.

Edit 2: That came across far more "stern" than I meant it to, so please don't take it like an attack or anything. Just trying to clarify. Whoever posted the Wikipedia info is relying on the incomplete source data.

All right, so the official word on the length is 26:53 or thereabouts, where the extra length mostly comes in the form of an extended/full-length OP featuring summary scenes from the first 12 episodes. Impressions in a bit.

Edit: Impressions...

Spoiler for Episode 13 *huge spoilers*:

Well... let's start with the obvious. I think this episode is going to generate a lot of mixed feelings, at least based on the most "essential" plot point (if you want to see it that way). The scene at the end of episode 12 meant what it looked like it might have meant: Yasuna broke up with Hazumu, and they're back to being close friends. The second scene you saw at the end of episode 12 also meant what it looked like it might have meant: Hazumu finally crossed the river completely and confessed to Tomari. You'll probably remember what exactly that means/implies. The storytelling purpose in all this is to, of course, bring balance back to the equation (sort of).

As an episode, it's probably most helpful to think of this as the OVA/bonus episode that it is. While it is the end, it's hard to say that it's the "be all and end all"; thematically, episode 12 was the "ending", and this is sort of like the epilogue. The episode itself is something of a wrap-up for all the characters, with all the major points from the series being brought back in some form. Even the famous perverted dad and single teacher skits make their reprise - but, perhaps because it's been so long, they didn't seem as annoying (and they were over quickly - it was more of a nod than anything else).

Plot points... the basic story is that Tomari is keeping her distance from Hazumu after his sudden confession. Obviously she's a bit confused - just as we saw in the show itself, he just finished the big dramatic Yasuna ending... how could Tomari not feel like "second best"? Hazumu tries to invite her to Christmas events (including Yasuna's Christmas concert, and an after-party back at his place), but Tomari keeps avoiding him (and skips out on the concert and party due to "work" - read: excuses). So, Yasuna and the rest of the gang (with help from Jan-puu and "Sora-sensei"), knowing this would probably happen, already came up with a plan, and "kidnapped" Tomari and reunited her with Hazumu. The result was a bit of a Christmas confession spectacle befitting the show's grand finale and also wrapped up Tomari's plot in the show.

So, back to impressions... as much as I might otherwise be upset that they screwed over "Yasuna's ending"... it's actually somewhat befitting the show and the continual back-and-forth that we saw. It cleans up all of Tomari's loose ends, just as episode 12 cleaned up Yasuna's. I don't take the "new Tomari ending" as being the real end for these characters either (despite the "final-seeming" look to it); I think this was more like bringing the balance back. The episode was very much a "reprise" of the show (as opposed to a straight continuation), and was careful to reflect back on all that had happened, so it felt nice to come back to it after so long. As a bonus episode, reprise, and grand finale, I thought the episode worked pretty well - but it also makes perfect sense why they never aired it as "episode 13", because 12 really was the end from a over-arching theme/storytelling perspective. In that sense, it's exactly like almost all the other Bandai Visual "episode 13" OVA episodes, so it makes sense.

Spoiler for Super Spoiler Screenshots (beyond what I wrote above):

Spoiler for Are you sure you're sure?! Don't you like suspense at all? :p:

Last edited by relentlessflame; 2006-10-27 at 14:13.
Reason: Added extra spoiler tag for most extreme spoiler

I wasn't a big Tomari fan. But what was Yasuna's reason for breaking up? I'm totally cured now and I want myself a real man?

Spoiler:

It really is sort of to balance the equation. Hazumu's gift (his declaration of love) gave Yasuna the strength to finally feel liberated as a person. While she still very much loves Hazumu, she realizes that he also loves Tomari. So, she sacrifices her romantic relationship in order to bring Tomari and Hazumu together - you could say that sacrifice is a symbol of her newfound strength. Yasuna and Hazumu will always remain close friends, but she believes that Tomari's the one who most needs Hazumu by her side now.

Actually, now that I think about it, it isn't really that different compared to how Hazumu decided to declare his feelings to Yasuna - he said that she needed him most at the moment. And that being done, Yasuna realizes that the person who needs Hazumu's love the most now is Tomari. I guess you could say it's a love triangle that stays a triangle to the end, because that's the way all three of them want it.

Last edited by relentlessflame; 2006-10-27 at 21:48.
Reason: fixed a typo

In my opinion it was good, and I liked how it ended as well since I was a

Spoiler for for Hazumu's bride:

Tomari

fan from the very start. But are homosexual marriages legal in Japan???

No, they aren't.
And, by the way, it's the other way round: Hazumu is Tomari's bride (oyomesan)
Too bad it wasn't Tomari/Ayuki, but I guess that would have been too much of a twist for one OVA episode.