""I had no idea what had happened," Stevens said. "It was extremely loud. I was in shock. I pulled over, (and) promptly started crying and then realized I was in an SUV convertible and it was snowing and minus 22.""

And then I saw the sun which was too bright and then realized I would have to spend the rest of my life trimming my nails so I cried some more then I realized how insignificant my life has been since I looked at that slice of Angel Food Cake and how disrespectful my kids were to me so I fell to the road and had a nervous breakdown.

One really hot summer day, back in the 70's, I was trimming the hedge (could be a euphemism, but that's another story) between our house and the neighbor's. Their big old T-Bird with the gold trim, fauk leather top and massive sunroof was parked in the driveway beside me. I guess the vibrations from the hedge trimmer must have triggered a massive build up of pressure in the car to finally pop the sunroof, because suddenly there was this massive crashing sound and bits of tempered glass rained down on me.

Enemabag Jones:Is this related to tolerances being made for local standards?

It does not get that cold in South Korea and Kia is newer regarding exports.

No, car manufacturers will actually tailor their vehicles to different regions. Vehicles sold in colder climates will have different fluids in them from the factory, heartier rustproofing, etc. Not to mention North American Kias are mostly built in i think Georgia.

One really hot summer day, back in the 70's, I was trimming the hedge (could be a euphemism, but that's another story) between our house and the neighbor's. Their big old T-Bird with the gold trim, fauk leather top and massive sunroof was parked in the driveway beside me. I guess the vibrations from the hedge trimmer must have triggered a massive build up of pressure in the car to finally pop the sunroof, because suddenly there was this massive crashing sound and bits of tempered glass rained down on me.

more likely that the trimmer picked up a stone and hurled it at the sunroof.

You would be AMAZED at what rich white ladies will cry about. Go to the customer service desk at the retailer of your choice in a well-to-do area and ask the person behind the counter. They have some stories that will make you wish violence upon people you've never met before. Sad, really.

I really prefer the criers; the screamers are a lot more common.

They both go around spreading their misery to as many folks as possible.

This is the part where I should get to the point, but I don't really have one, so coont monkey asf edweg.

Speef:You would be AMAZED at what rich white ladies will cry about. Go to the customer service desk at the retailer of your choice in a well-to-do area and ask the person behind the counter. They have some stories that will make you wish violence upon people you've never met before. Sad, really.

I really prefer the criers; the screamers are a lot more common.

They both go around spreading their misery to as many folks as possible.

This is the part where I should get to the point, but I don't really have one, so coont monkey asf edweg.

She drives a kia and you automatically assume she is rich and white. You're a jackass.

Just bought a 2014 Soul (back in January). Already almost 3000 miles and not one problem. Had my Sportage for 12 years and wanted to stay with the company. But now I'm glad I didn't get the one with the sunroof (dealer tried like hell to put me in a FULLY loaded 2013, but I didn't want all that junk on it. Went to another dealer and had a fantastic buying experience, and got the car I wanted.

Cyno01:No, car manufacturers will actually tailor their vehicles to different regions. Vehicles sold in colder climates will have different fluids in them from the factory, heartier rustproofing, etc. Not to mention North American Kias are mostly built in i think Georgia.

And that's why the dash of our Kia rolled up like a pretzel in the Tennessee heat within just a few years of purchase. Our Kia, that was bought in and spent its whole life in Tennessee.

/no, it's not//it was made for somewhere that the dash doesn't get so hot in summer -- saw numerous other Kias with the exact same problem///never buying Kia again

Tillmaster:more likely that the trimmer picked up a stone and hurled it at the sunroof.

More likely that the story was made up. Tempered glass wouldn't rain down on him unless he was in the car. Pressure doesn't build up inside cars because they're about as airtight as a sieve. Gravity says when the glass shatters, it falls down, not up and sideways.

baltimoreblonde:Just bought a 2014 Soul (back in January). Already almost 3000 miles and not one problem. Had my Sportage for 12 years and wanted to stay with the company. But now I'm glad I didn't get the one with the sunroof (dealer tried like hell to put me in a FULLY loaded 2013, but I didn't want all that junk on it. Went to another dealer and had a fantastic buying experience, and got the car I wanted.

You might wanna tone down your excitement about driving your new vehicle 3k miles without any problems. We're all happy for you but remember this is FARK.

Seeing as our 2013 Sorento with only 15,000 miles on it committed suicide two weeks ago, I'm not getting a kick.

I changed the oil on it and apparently didn't get the canister-style oil filter on tight enough or something and over the course of 1,000 miles, all the oil leaked out. But there was absolutely no warning until the engine threw the bearings.

Of course Kia has flatly denied anything was wrong with the design or workmanship of the vehicle and denied the warranty claim. They wanted $7,500 to replace the shiatty V6.

Having the engine completely puke is one thing, but we were in the middle of a cross-country move and it left my wife, sister-in-law and two year old son stranded on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere Northern California. I was several hours behind in the moving truck.

I am beyond pissed at Kia and the dealership we had it towed to in Medford Oregon. They basically told us to pound sand. We are still fighting with Kia.

I understand that yes, it is my fault for not getting the oil canister on correctly, even though this was not the first, or even second time changing the oil on that car, it was that easy to fark up. Secondly, there was NO warning that it was low on oil. No lights, nothing. Not until my wife was getting back on the freeway from a scenic viewpoint did it start making a noise, then lights came on and the whole thing detonated. My 15 year old Grand Prix had an oil level sensor and I actually ran low on oil once. Guess what, the light came on, I checked and I had about a quart of oil left. I refilled the oil and there were no problems. The engine didn't frickin explode.

The thing that pissed me off the most was the service manager at the Kia dealership keep trying to push blame off on whomever changed the oil (I hadn't told them it was me at that point). They kept saying go back to the place it was serviced. Whenever I brought up the fact that there was no warning lights before catastrophic damage had already occured, that was brushed off and explained that even though the vehicle had been driven over 1,000 miles since the oil change that the leak must have sped up and all leaked out at once. Complete BS.

I'd rather have an exploded sunroof, which ours had the panoramic sunroof, than deal with this BS.Fark off Kia. Take your shiatty cars and $5,000 V6 engines and go back to Korea.

logieal:Seeing as our 2013 Sorento with only 15,000 miles on it committed suicide two weeks ago, I'm not getting a kick.

I changed the oil on it and apparently didn't get the canister-style oil filter on tight enough or something and over the course of 1,000 miles, all the oil leaked out. But there was absolutely no warning until the engine threw the bearings.

Of course Kia has flatly denied anything was wrong with the design or workmanship of the vehicle and denied the warranty claim. They wanted $7,500 to replace the shiatty V6.

Having the engine completely puke is one thing, but we were in the middle of a cross-country move and it left my wife, sister-in-law and two year old son stranded on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere Northern California. I was several hours behind in the moving truck.

I am beyond pissed at Kia and the dealership we had it towed to in Medford Oregon. They basically told us to pound sand. We are still fighting with Kia.

I understand that yes, it is my fault for not getting the oil canister on correctly, even though this was not the first, or even second time changing the oil on that car, it was that easy to fark up. Secondly, there was NO warning that it was low on oil. No lights, nothing. Not until my wife was getting back on the freeway from a scenic viewpoint did it start making a noise, then lights came on and the whole thing detonated. My 15 year old Grand Prix had an oil level sensor and I actually ran low on oil once. Guess what, the light came on, I checked and I had about a quart of oil left. I refilled the oil and there were no problems. The engine didn't frickin explode.

The thing that pissed me off the most was the service manager at the Kia dealership keep trying to push blame off on whomever changed the oil (I hadn't told them it was me at that point). They kept saying go back to the place it was serviced. Whenever I brought up the fact that there was no warning lights before catastrophic damage had already occured, that was brushed off and explained that even though the vehicle had been driven over 1,000 miles since the oil change that the leak must have sped up and all leaked out at once. Complete BS.

I'd rather have an exploded sunroof, which ours had the panoramic sunroof, than deal with this BS.Fark off Kia. Take your shiatty cars and $5,000 V6 engines and go back to Korea.

That's really cheap for a V-6 engine, especially for someone who doesn't know that it's called an oil filter, not a canister. However, I can't blame the lack of oil pressure low warning light on you. But let this be a lesson to you, If your car is under warranty, never change your own oil. And once your warranty is up, never return to the dealership.

Years ago, I was following behind a Trans Am with T-roofs when the passenger's roof flew off. There was an 'oh shiat' moment when I thought it was going to hit me but smashed right in front of the car. I was, of course, treated for shock and PTSD at a nearby hospital. It took me years to work up the courage to get behind the wheel again. I tried to sue but it turns out the car was owned by Joe Biden. By the time the case got to court,he was Vice President. He showed up with the doctor that gave him his full immunity vaccine and the judge dismissed the case. Biden then threw the horns in my faces and said "What now,Biatches?" He slammed a 24 ouncer of Natty Light and then used the judges gavel to crush the can. "Full immunity, creepos!" he yelled and left the courtroom by smashing and climbing out a window.

jl811:That's really cheap for a V-6 engine, especially for someone who doesn't know that it's called an oil filter, not a canister. However, I can't blame the lack of oil pressure low warning light on you. But let this be a lesson to you, If your car is under warranty, never change your own oil. And once your warranty is up, never return to the dealership

It is an oil filter, canister style. It's on top of the engine instead of the bottom. My anger was getting in the way of my typing coherently. The ones on the bottom of the engine are impossible to screw up unless you cross the threads. On this one, the canister cover was all the way on and the little grease lines they put on when the engine is new were lined up and snug. I still don't know how it all leaked out. And yes I replaced the gasket when I changed the filter.

But five grand for an engine? I can buy a crate V8 for $1,300 or a GM V6 for $2,500.

I've been changing my own oil for nearly 20 years. And I'm not even to 35 yet. Yes, I was changing oil before I could drive a car.

I don't like dealing with the stealership for any longer than is needed to get the car off the lot. But yes, new new one will be getting the shiatty oil from the dealership. I only use full synthetic in my car, but the replacement won't get that treatment.

Harry Freakstorm:Years ago, I was following behind a Trans Am with T-roofs when the passenger's roof flew off. There was an 'oh shiat' moment when I thought it was going to hit me but smashed right in front of the car. I was, of course, treated for shock and PTSD at a nearby hospital. It took me years to work up the courage to get behind the wheel again. I tried to sue but it turns out the car was owned by Joe Biden. By the time the case got to court,he was Vice President. He showed up with the doctor that gave him his full immunity vaccine and the judge dismissed the case. Biden then threw the horns in my faces and said "What now,Biatches?" He slammed a 24 ouncer of Natty Light and then used the judges gavel to crush the can. "Full immunity, creepos!" he yelled and left the courtroom by smashing and climbing out a window.

logieal:jl811: That's really cheap for a V-6 engine, especially for someone who doesn't know that it's called an oil filter, not a canister. However, I can't blame the lack of oil pressure low warning light on you. But let this be a lesson to you, If your car is under warranty, never change your own oil. And once your warranty is up, never return to the dealership

It is an oil filter, canister style. It's on top of the engine instead of the bottom. My anger was getting in the way of my typing coherently. The ones on the bottom of the engine are impossible to screw up unless you cross the threads. On this one, the canister cover was all the way on and the little grease lines they put on when the engine is new were lined up and snug. I still don't know how it all leaked out. And yes I replaced the gasket when I changed the filter.

But five grand for an engine? I can buy a crate V8 for $1,300 or a GM V6 for $2,500.

I've been changing my own oil for nearly 20 years. And I'm not even to 35 yet. Yes, I was changing oil before I could drive a car.

I don't like dealing with the stealership for any longer than is needed to get the car off the lot. But yes, new new one will be getting the shiatty oil from the dealership. I only use full synthetic in my car, but the replacement won't get that treatment.

Somewhat similar not csb..

bought a used car a bit back...dealer gave it a check out and tune up before they sold it to me. 2000 miles later (2 months) the engine blows on the highway omw to work. shop i took it too says there was just over a quart in it...dealer said awee sorry 30 day warranty

I am an industrial maintenance technician and even I do not work on cars under warranty. Need 450 tons of molten metal moved with an overhead crane ? I have no problem signing off on my repairs whether it is structural,mechanical,electrical,or related to rigging. Ask me to change the oil on some piece of shiat Kia ? Not happening. The warranty will be voided and the dealership will never pay.

baltimoreblonde:Just bought a 2014 Soul (back in January). Already almost 3000 miles and not one problem. Had my Sportage for 12 years and wanted to stay with the company. But now I'm glad I didn't get the one with the sunroof (dealer tried like hell to put me in a FULLY loaded 2013, but I didn't want all that junk on it. Went to another dealer and had a fantastic buying experience, and got the car I wanted.

Hey, me too, Bought it in november, just hit 3k miles. Thermometer freaks out and gives the wrong outside temp sometimes though, gonna have it looked at when we take it in at 5k, only a minor annoyance and only one so far.

Also "lined up and snug" does not always work on engines. Find the torque values in the manual. Even then the dealership will likely say it was improperly torqued unless you have a calibration certificate for the wrench.

I had the rear window in my vibe explode last winter. My first reaction was I was being shoot at because it sounds like a shotgun blast. I looked back to check out the direction of the noise and couldn't see anything because the window was all crazed, then the glass started raining down into my trunk and it started to get very cold so I pulled over. It took me about 3 minutes before the adrenalin rush wrote off enough for me to call my boss to tell him I wouldn't be in. I can understand why she was freaked out since a sunroof is a hell of a lot closer than a hatch.

"It was extremely scary. If there were any passengers in the back seat they would have definitely been injured, glass in the eye or what-not."

As someone who has taken a tempered glass shower, I can say 'definitely' is a bit of a stretch. 'Unlikely' is much closer.

Sure, if you pick up some and rub it all over your body, or drop a handful down into your underwear and then get in a giant tire and roll down a really steep hill you'll probably pick up some injuries. But tempered glass is designed to not cut you as much as possible. And most people reach to sudden explosions and vast changes in air pressure by closing their eyes.

Crying, really? Two months ago my family and I were driving home on a rural road and we heard a gunshot and our rear passenger window exploded. We pulled over about a half a mile up and the side of our Mazda 9 was peppered with dents from a shotgun blast. Some douchnozzle had fired a shotgun into passing traffic and it hit our car. The window exploded right next to my wife, covering her, the kids and everyone with glass. Thankfully no one was hurt, but we were quite shaken. But no crying, none. Not even our 9 year old cried. Jesus, when are Pepe going to learn not to panic when something unexpected happens?

OBBN:gunshot and our rear passenger window exploded. We pulled over about a half a mile up and the side of our Mazda 9 was peppered with dents from a shotgun blast. Some douchnozzle had fired a shotgun into passing traffic and it hit our car. The window exploded right next to my wife, covering her, the kids and everyone with glass. Thankfully no one was hurt, but we were quite shaken. But no crying, none. Not even our 9 year old cried. Jesus, when are Pepe going to learn not to panic when something unexpected happens?

When i was in maybe... 4th grade i think, i was sitting in the back of the (full sized) school bus on my way home, at a stoplight in the ghetto and some kid walking down the street with a baseball bat smashed the back window. The bus driver completely lost it, screaming, crying, they had to send a replacement driver because she was hysterical. This was on a full sized school bus, BACK window, nowhere near her.