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I agree that suicide and murder are two unforgivable sins, but my god...this guy must have really had some internal demons. How bad do things have to be before you murder the mother of your son and then pull the trigger on yourself? Belcher must have been a tortured soul, but I feel for the poor mother and his son. That poor little boy is now an orphan with a horrific family history.[COLOR="Silver"]

Internal demons .... mental issues (perhaps contributed by the physical toll of playing football) .... we simply do not know. It's all speculation at this point. Anyone trying to already decide needs to slow their roll. Regardless it's a tragedy all around.

Internal demons .... mental issues (perhaps contributed by the physical toll of playing football) .... we simply do not know. It's all speculation at this point. Anyone trying to already decide needs to slow their roll. Regardless it's a tragedy all around.

To all the people calling the act of suicide cowardly and selfish go **** yourselves. I suffer from mental health issues and have been at various levels of being suicidal for a while now. You don't know what goes on in someone's head and you can't understand what suffering from a mental health issue is like unless you are a trained professional or have gone through it yourself. The act of murdering his girlfriend and leaving his child parent-less, sure condemn it; but to say call suicide selfish and cowardly goes beyond the level of being mere ignorant, to actually hurtful.

Strong words considering you have no idea whether or not this guy suffered from mental illness. What it does appear is that he killed himself as a result of not wanting to deal with the consequences of his actions. He murdered someone and either didnt want to face the music of life in prison or couldnt deal with his own feeling of guilt over it. Cowardly. This is completely different from someone who kills themselves because they are mentally ill.

Did you miss the part where I stated condemn him for leaving his child parent-less and murdering his girlfriend?

My post was directly referring to people making statements like: 'There is always another way, committing suicide is stupid and only hurts the people around you; suicide is selfish and cowardly,' etc.

Im with you in that not all people who committ suicide are cowardly or are bad people. Junior Seau comes to mind. However, I dont think you should be trying to make that argument in this particular case. This POS's suicide was clearly a cowardly act. He took the easy way out after he made a poor split second choice in the heat of an argument.