Man, I wish the sox could prove Parque was healthy now. I, for one, don't care if he ever pitches for the sox again. If he was healthy they could package him with Durham, Clayton, and Singleton and get someone like Giles. Nah, the Pirates would want more. Maybe Josh Paul would do it.

AsInWreck

12-14-2001, 07:11 PM

iF THE PIRATES WANTED TO TAKE ON THE 9.5 MILLION SALARY OF DURHAM AND CLAYTON THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE TRADING GILES

Chisox_cali

12-14-2001, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by Guzman's Goat
Do we still need a outfielder?

NO

seventytwo

12-14-2001, 07:22 PM

We need another outfielder. I would love to have Giles playing left, Rowand in center and Mags in right next year. Giles would also give us some pop from the left side, breaking up the Frank, Mags, Kong string in the lineup.

Of course, Erstad would be nice too, especially because we need someone other than Ray to hit leadoff.

I just read on CBS sportsline that KW is still talking to the Pirates about Giles, take that for what it's worth.

MikeKreevich

12-14-2001, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by AsInWreck
iF THE PIRATES WANTED TO TAKE ON THE 9.5 MILLION SALARY OF DURHAM AND CLAYTON THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE TRADING GILES
I know that "As In", I was just highlighting the deadwood we have on this team. How about answering my original question. I think I would like to see Lee in left for one more year.

Daver

12-14-2001, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by Guzman's Goat

I know that "As In", I was just highlighting the deadwood we have on this team. How about answering my original question. I think I would like to see Lee in left for one more year.

Yeah maybe he could set a record in flyballs lost in the sun,roof,clouds,lights,etc...........

Sounds like a plan!

Jerry_Manuel

12-14-2001, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by daver
Yeah maybe he could set a record in flyballs lost in the sun,roof,clouds,lights,etc...........

Sounds like a plan!

To bad there won't be baseball. If there going to deal Lee I would rather wait another year for a better deal. Not this crap teams are offering now. El Duque? Kevin Appier? Whatever.

:caballo
Get rid of the Twins so I don't have to deal with that white roof.

MikeKreevich

12-14-2001, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by daver

Yeah maybe he could set a record in flyballs lost in the sun,roof,clouds,lights,etc...........

Sounds like a plan!
He might hit about 35 home runs too. He's about one year away from DH territory.

Daver

12-14-2001, 07:56 PM

Originally posted by Guzman's Goat

He might hit about 35 home runs too. He's about one year away from DH territory.

I don't think the sox "need" an OF exactly, no/if the sox are willing to assume salary by getting giles i'd rather see them getting another quality SP or C/but the sox lineup would look pretty scary
like this-

well I guess the bottoms not so scary---
but they could still score some runs

FarWestChicago

12-14-2001, 07:58 PM

:caballo

Daver, I bet you liked me that night I dropped the walk off Salami on the Flubs.

Jerry_Manuel

12-14-2001, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by AsInWreck
the sox lineup would look pretty scary
like this-
Durham 2b
valentin ss
thomas dh
maggs rf
giles lf
konerko 1b
crede 3b
singleton/rowand cf
mjohnson c
well I guess the bottoms not so scary---
but they could still score some runs

"Your not in the real worl yet Jerry. I think you made that left instead of the right."

:slowswing

Tragg

12-14-2001, 08:45 PM

We need a center fielder.

It better be one who can cover better than singleton and hit for a OBP of over .350 for us to trade Caballo for.

Daver

12-14-2001, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by Tragg
We need a center fielder.

It better be one who can cover better than singleton and hit for a OBP of over .350 for us to trade Caballo for.

That is the problem with trading C.Lee,he has to be traded to an AL team,no NL team would want him,look at the Mets trading for Justice only to trade him to an AL team two days later.

Tragg

12-14-2001, 08:51 PM

I'm not convinced of that. 1st base? Hell, we've played him in the outfield.

I'd rather trade Konerko anyway. Just a feeling, but I think Caballo can be a real stud and he's easier contractually.

Jerry_Manuel

12-14-2001, 08:56 PM

Originally posted by CLR01
Rowand is not a centerfielder.

I never claimed he was, the Sox claim he is.

Jerry_Manuel

12-14-2001, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by Tragg
We need a center fielder.

It better be one who can cover better than singleton and hit for a OBP of over .350 for us to trade Caballo for.

2002 is going to be mix and match until 2003 when Borchard takes over.

Tragg

12-14-2001, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by Jerry_Manuel

2002 is going to be mix and match until 2003 when Borchard takes over.

Which begs the question - is Borchard a center fielder?

CLR01

12-14-2001, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by Tragg

Which begs the question - is Borchard a center fielder?

I still think Borchard should stay in right, move maggs to left and find a centerfielder.

FarWestChicago

12-14-2001, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by CLR01

I still think Borchard should stay in right, move maggs to left and find a centerfielder. :slowswing

CLR!!! Where is the love?

CLR01

12-14-2001, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by FarWestChicago
:slowswing

CLR!!! Where is the love?

"Hey, he never said when they would have to find one. Maybe he meant when i retire."

:slowswing

Daver

12-14-2001, 09:15 PM

Originally posted by Tragg
I'm not convinced of that. 1st base? Hell, we've played him in the outfield.

I'd rather trade Konerko anyway. Just a feeling, but I think Caballo can be a real stud and he's easier contractually.

Konerko is the last player I would trade aside from Magglio,he has yet to put up his best numbers and feilds his position well.
C.Lee is better suited as a DH,and I think the Sox have that position wrapped up.

And having Ray standing 15 yards away with his glove on his head giving the WADN'T ME look completes the picture.

FarWestChicago

12-14-2001, 09:25 PM

Originally posted by daver

Exactly!

And having Ray standing 15 yards away with his glove on his head giving the WADN'T ME look completes the picture. LOL!! The Matador and the Fire Hydrant. We won't get into the next position over from FH. :smile:

OK, I can't resist. Buddy Lee at short and Hands of Stone at third. :D:

CLR01

12-14-2001, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by FarWestChicago
LOL!! The Matador and the Fire Hydrant. We won't get into the next position over from FH. :smile:

OK, I can't resist. Buddy Lee at short and Hands of Stone at third.

"And you people expect this team to compete next season. Buahahahahahahaha...hahahaha......GO CUBBIES!"

:moron

FarWestChicago

12-14-2001, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by CLR01

"And you people expect this team to compete next season. Buahahahahahahaha...hahahaha......GO CUBBIES"

:moron I really wish Fluffy would relieve himself on your head.

Daver

12-14-2001, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by FarWestChicago
I really wish Fluffy would relieve himself on your head.

Fluffy does that in his column on a daily basis.

Daver

12-14-2001, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by FarWestChicago
LOL!! The Matador and the Fire Hydrant. We won't get into the next position over from FH. :smile:

OK, I can't resist. Buddy Lee at short and Hands of Stone at third. :D:

While a Brian Giles would be nice, I just don't know if it's worth the cost. It's not like were desperate for a new LF or CF. Let's face it, while Chirs and Carlos have their faults, the duo are no worse than average. Their struggles kind of balance out. Lee has the bat, Chris has the glove.
All Im saying is that its not worth it to trade away the future on 1 outfielder in our current state, only if its a reasonable deal.

LongDistanceFan

12-15-2001, 01:40 AM

Originally posted by daver

Konerko is the last player I would trade aside from Magglio,he has yet to put up his best numbers and feilds his position well.
C.Lee is better suited as a DH,and I think the Sox have that position wrapped up.

Originally posted by LongDistanceFan
and using kipper and ray, would've been better to get players instead of a ritchie..... The Sox traded 3 players that had no place in the future of the team for a proven starter,I still don't see where that is wrong.

Originally posted by FarWestChicago
I liked Sean. I'll never forget what he did against the Flubs when Wells wussed out. That was a huge performance for us. But, Kenny and Jerry hated him for some reason. What are you gonna do?

The guy cant win with you people. IF he would have pitched with the bad back people would have flamed him for not steping aside and doing what was good for the team, he did just that and now he wussed out. BLA

"Atleast everyone still loves me, who can ever forget my homer in the third game and my throw to royce that helped nail Gary Matthews JR at the plate. Lets see that pansy Rowand do that."

:slowswing

FarWestChicago

12-15-2001, 02:14 AM

Originally posted by CLR01

The guy cant win with you people. IF he would have pitched with the bad back people would have flamed him for not steping aside and doing what was good for the team, he did just that and now he wussed out.I don't have anything against XL. He's a fellow big, fat guy. That game just went from a horror story to something wonderful because Sean stepped up. I'll never forget that. :smile: