I cannot stress to you enough the importance of going directly to a hospital and having a rape kit preformed if you are ever unfortunate enough to
suffer a rape. If rape ever befalls you, the worst thing you can do is go home and take a shower - you should immediately call the police go directly
to a hospital, and inform them that you have been raped.

The evidence collected during a rape exam is invaluable to connecting the rape to the rapist. Hair, semen, everything can be used to secure
conviction if the person is caught, but it must be collected. If you don't go through with this, then in court it is simply your word against theirs
- which won't hold up.

Another important reason to go to the hospital is that they will preform a physical examination and administer anti-viral and anti-pregnancy drugs,
both of which are desperately important.

So yes, though it is uncomfortable, you must grit your teeth and go through with it. 1 in 6 women will be sexually assaulted in their lifetimes, and
so few report it effectively - please don't be one of them?

i think it is logical to surmise that being with him after he had broken up with another girl, and going for drinks too, is her feeling sorry for him.
i've seen girls have oral, and even full out sex with someone they feel sorry for.

that being said, claiming tight jeans as rape proof clothing is wrong.

maybe he raped her outright, maybe he was a bit more forceful than he should have been, maybe they were getting busy and she wanted to stop, but he
kept going, maybe they had sex and she regretted it later so she called it rape.

it could be anything at this point, not enough information to come to a conclusion.

synopsis: jeans argument flawed, but that doesn't make him guilty. (remember it was the jury asking that question)

i think it is logical to surmise that being with him after he had broken up with another girl, and going for drinks too, is her feeling sorry for him.
i've seen girls have oral, and even full out sex with someone they feel sorry for.

Originally posted by loner007
I think all females should have some sort of personal defense device in which should someone tries to attack her, she should use it. Pepper spray
comes to mind or a tazer....

Loner007.....

I agree.....hence my earlier comment about wishing there was a real Beatrix Kiddo out there to sort out the low-lifes.

even if thay needed a key to get them off a sicko would still be able to rape them like makeing them remove them there self by violance
threat of more pain after sever pain could make most people do anything

It is funny how people like you always think about the victim and only THE VICTIM lol..

I made it capital and bold..

NOW BREAK IT DOWN.

Let's see if I can get to your head.

Can a victim actually be the predator?

If so how can you tell the difference?

Can I by any chance ask you to visit this link and read the detailed discussion me and another ATS member had in regards to this discussion?

I'll just post a snip of the debate:

The rape victims blaming themselves for the crime committed against them, that being said makes the solution even more complicated to the problem of
rape. And a suck up society such as the Western one will have big issues due to its lack of morality.

This lack of morality will increase rape in numbers and the victims will continually blame themselves, hence they already are as the statistic
mentions..

The Western society is in a position where it can't even separate a sexual intercourse and rape, hence drunk rape accusations..

The Western society has allowed itself to reach this situation, it is no one Else's fault, it is the lawmakers, and the experts who are suppose to
help a country for the best, not for the worst.

False rape accusations are popping up everywhere. So what is a society, such as the current Western one do in regards? How can they tackle fake
accusations? It is just not possible, so what is the solution for it?

After all this thread is about rape and rape victims, what is the point of discussing this issue if we are not discussing to gain something out of it.

Are we suppose to just come here and say, "Aye I agreeee", or "Nai I disagreeee" and then bye bye... Get real

DUDE my daughters long time boy friend is a great guy. But if he so much as farts in the wrong direction towards her I'll hop a 6 hour flight and
when I land I'll throttle the guy and leave just enough for her to Marry

sigh - 3 pages of blatant speculation when we dont even know the basaic facts

but hey - this is ATS - facts are optional

lets answer the question shall we

is it possible to rape a woman in allegedly " skinny pants " ?

the answer is of course yes - of course it is

can you remove allegedly " skinny pants " from a woman who is activly resisting WITHOUT causing tell tale injuries to the woman or damage
to the garment ?

IMHO - no , to remove them without injury or damage , requires IMHO incapacitation either by drugs alcholhol , ghb , rohypnol etc , violence [ punch
her in the face or solar plexus and start to remove them - repeat every time she moves ] , threat ov violence , use of a weapon [ gun / knife ]

now as the jury sat and heard all evidience anbd all testimony - which we dont have access to

then SOMETHING must have raised thier suspicions - hence the question

but ATS knows better than the jury that was actually presented all the evidence

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