Tuesday, February 26, 2013

THEY EAT THEIR OWN.

It’s also liberals who would encourage the sort of creepy messaging coordination that [S.E.] Cupp is proposing. Get Republicans to denounce Limbaugh on different networks? What would that accomplish, other than making George Soros proud?... Her remarks have left a bad taste in the mouths of many conservatives, who feel that in issuing a sweeping indictment of Limbaugh as “dangerous,” Cupp is only hurting the conservative cause...

And that’s the point that Cupp misses even as she explains herself. She can disagree with Limbaugh all day. Hell, she can make a career out of it she wants (she may have unintentionally done so already). But if you’re going to rage against the machine, expect some return fire, and don’t be surprised that when you go to the New York Times, they may apply motives to you that don’t exist.

The fact that Ms. Cupp doesn’t get this — even now, almost a full year after this controversy — startles. It means, apparently, one of two things. Either Cupp herself is a moderate on the issue (can a “conservative columnist,” as conservatives mock of elected officials, “grow in office” — i.e., become moderate?), or she is simply unaware of the history.

Either way Cupp vividly illustrates that she — and presumably her Proximus compadres — are advocating nothing newer than yesterday’s moderate Republicanism.

Picking a fight with Limbaugh, the dean of conservative talkers, particularly in a New York Times interview, is a nice little publicity gambit for a reputed young conservative. The liberal media eats up apostasy on the right... Cupp's elevation to talking head and opinion shaper couldn't have possibly occurred but for contemporary America's obsession with youth -- youth and looks... One suspects that Cupp cares more what's said about her, at least among Manhattan's liberal set.

Hm? Oh, I don't have a point here; I'm just enjoying myself. It's almost as good as the Sparticists vs. the ISO, or the People's Front of Judea vs. The Judean People's Front. It's getting so I hope they lose worse in 2014 -- not for political reasons, but because if they're this much fun now, imagine how much fun they'll be when they're even more aware of their unpopularity.

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Can we talk about "Proximus"? For those who haven't read last Sunday's NY Times Magazine piece about the struggles of the right to adapt to and adopt modren (sic) tech, this is the name the groovy, forward-thinking righties have chosen for their cadre, because it means "next."

Never mind the thought problem of you or I sitting in a group meeting and debating "What should we call ourselves? Hey, what's the Latin word for 'next'?" The real question is, Who does this? Who chooses a name like this, and for what purpose?

It makes a feller think that, for Sippy Cupp and her cohort, it's all only and nothing but a job. "But there's no danger/It's a professional career," as Elvis C. says.

These guys really have a knack for snappy names. I remember how impressed I was when Erickson formed the Red State Trike Force - er, Red State Stroke Farce....um...well, you know what I mean. They mailed salt and bowling balls to people they didn't like. And it was awesome.

I just want to point out that I had heard nothing about Cupp's comments until I came here, and Roy only covered it because of the shitstorm in the right wing media. That might give you an idea of who eats up what.

Criminy, does Rush have video of every conservative who ever walked into a brothel with him?

Cupp's elevation to talking head and opinion shaper couldn't have possibly occurred but for contemporary America's obsession with youth -- youth and looks

Back when Cupp was in their good graces, she was frequently lauded as proof that conservative chicks are way hotter than liberal chicks. Now that she's out of their good graces, that suddenly morphs into "pssh, she was never anything but a pretty face anyway." Smooth.

Predictable, of course. Conservative men act like they're doing women a favor by holding them up as trophies, but that kind of commodification has always, by design, been double edged. Being an attractive woman can always serve as a sole excuse for dismissal and derision, if the Patriarchs deem it necessary.

Prepositions are hard. In every language. I'm not making excuses for these blowhards, just advising them not to take names from language they aren't fluent in, or at the very least to stick with your basic nouns and adjectives. Even verbs and adverbs can be fraught if you're not careful.

shorter brethren: <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097493/quotes?qt=qt0347959>you were nothing before you met us.</a> you were playing barbies at the dartmouth review. you were a bluebird. you were a brownie. you were a girl scout cookie.

Right, as a matter of common sense they shouldn't take names from foreign languages if they don't know what they're doing. But that illustrates the crux of the problem, doesn't it? They're a bunch of ignorant brownshirts trying to sound solemn and erudite: they're not smart enough to read a basic entry in a Latin/English dictionary correctly and they're too stubborn to consult a linguist because he's probably going to be a liberal.

Their Keystone Kops approach to public relations would be hilarious if they didn't also control hundreds of millions of dollars in media buys, influence policy, and engage in broad political vendettas against those that don't vote for them using the same knee-jerk, halfwit approach and lack of expertise as they used choosing their name.

Rush Limbaugh has about $350 million in the bank (I apologize if anyone wants to kill themselves after reading that), and could buy and sell S.E. Cupp a hundred times if he wanted. The idea that she's seriously endangering his empire by 'betraying' him in the New York Times is a joke: you might as well try to erode Mt. Everest by pissing on it. She is so obviously just bouncing off him to get the requisite fake-centrist cred and settle in at the Wall Street Journal or the New Republic or where the hell ever.

The fact that these guys are so psycho when it comes to rooting out heretics that they can't even figure that out is simply hilarious. They've already kicked out people who confessed to basic scientific knowledge or human empathy. If they start kicking out anyone who makes self-serving power plays, there will be no one left.

"Limbaugh, the dean of conservative talkers?" How fuckin' high is that pedestal? (With Limbaugh's history, that's a bit like saying, "Ratzinger, dean of German ex-popes." Well, hell, it is Warner Todd Huston that uses the word, "apostasy," to describe all this.)

At least we know the easy way to get all the wankers out of their basements and into the circle jerk. Just yell, "Limbaugh's a poopy head!"

They sa: ‘The gauls—- galli—- subject—- go on molesworth oppugnant—- what does oppugnant mean—- they are attacking fossas. Ditches. What did you say molesworth? Why on earth attack a ditch? Keep your mind on the sentence. The gauls are attacking the ditches. What? I am quite unable to inform you molesworth for what purpose the Gauls wished to attack the ditches. The latin is correct. That sufices.

Why, then, if she is, indeed, all those things, does she promptly--and with considerable, umm, envy--reinforce one of the most shopworn stereotypes of women, and glorify a life choice that is unavailable to virtually all women?

Truly Ms Cupp is one of the Right Wing's more innovative thinkers:Cupp finds herself in the unenviable position of maintaining that Americans largely side with her party’s worldview, even if their votes suggest otherwise.

In a rather narrow and ill-informed way, Americans DO agree with Republican policies. Poll after Poll has been consistent over the last thirty years that Americans want to cut government spending, but only in an abstract way. Once you start talking about specific programs to get the axe, most people decide that current spending is TOO LOW on just about everything except defense. Same thing with taxes: Everyone agrees that taxes are too high. Once you start talking about which taxes will be cut (per the GOP, only taxes on those making a million a year or more), most people decide that taxes on the rich are too low.

So, yeah--support for the policies, but complete horror at the specifics.

She is so obviously just bouncing off him to get the requisite fake-centrist cred and settle in at the Wall Street Journal or the New Republic or where the hell ever.

Perhaps, in the spirit of the Age, Ross Cardinal Douthat has decided to enter a hermitage.

"Pissing on Everest" is how the party's "moderate" (defined as "wouldn't shoot a gay couple clandestinely making-out in public, for fear that one of 'em might be a Republican Senator") "intellectuals" (defined as, well, fuck if I know) get themselves breathing space when the morons they rely on to maintain power have let them down.

Republican intellectuals exist, for example I point to Victor Davis Hanson, a well known classicist and Glenn Harlan Reynolds a law professor at some state school. They both trade on a lifetime of experience in (notice I didn't use the word expertise) one narrow field and assume it means everyone else has been faking it all along too.

Their definition of "American" excludes poors, coastal city dwellers, single women, non-Christians, and people with skin darker than a paper bag. Republican policies are extremely popular among "real" Americans (i.e. white rural and suburban Christians).

Given Cupp's spot on MSNBC, I'd imagine there's a lot of totebaggers who view her as the Gen X David Brooks, a job Saint Ross of the Bloatee is just too earnest, too dweeby, to properly fill. But dittoheads are generally wingnuts of the VDH school of thought that says 'coolness' is a conspiracy inflicted on us by liberals; they probably have no use, if not an active dislike, for Cupp's brand of hip young conservatism. At best, I'd bet the intersection of people who care what S.E. Cupp has to say and people who care what Rush Limbaugh has to say is Reason subscribers, people who cheerlead for Team Conservative on the internet, and a smattering of dudebros high-fiving over the hot conservative chick.

So yeah, in real life terms, this is overinflated gibberish from the usual chorus of half-brights. But wingnut slapfight is its own reward.

It apparently does have a relative time meaning, too, in that it can mean the thing that just happened before the current thing... a moment next to the present moment, but the past one rather than the future one. All in all a better choice than they knew.

O yea. She's clearly trying to make it in a seriously crowded field. Anything that distinguishes her from the AM radio-and-gold-coins crowd is a good move. Besides, polite atheism is way more upmarket than snake-handling.

There's a character named Legion in the Mass Effect games who's pretty neat, so I vote we leave that alone. Abaddon's pretty good, though. Extra fun because there's an evil corporation called "Abaddonn Industries" in the TV show Enlightened.

I keep coming back to W. Todd's use of the word "apostasy." Does he understand the religious connotations of that word? Then again, he describes Sandra Fluke as a "pro-infanticide activist", so maybe he does. (The sparse comments on his post are interesting; read 'em while they're still up.)

They've spent the last half century convincing themselves that they are objectively right on every issue and that the Democratic Party poses a mortal threat to America. I don't see a return to sensible moderation coming anytime soon.

So, uh, is there any...well, let's call it "substance," just for a giggle...to all this caterwauling over Sippy Cupp's supposed heresy? I refuse to click on any of the links to satisfy my meager curiosity. Did she make actual criticisms against the Fat One, or was it merely a few tepid finger-wags to shore up her 'centrist' credentials? Inquiring minds wanna know!

If I were from some other planet and knew nothing about the principles - such as they are - of the movement cons, I think I'd find them repellent just because of this treachery thing they have going. Violate the taboo du jour, and out you go, no matter how popular you were ten minutes ago.

In this case, Ms. Cupp apparently said something; I'm not so interested I'm going to look at what this is actually about. But as a woman, all she really had to do to get dungheaped was age visibly.

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