in florida. then vice-presidentialcandidatepaulryanspeaksat ai rally in new hampshire. after that, the 1984 presidential debate between ronald reagan and walter mondale. >> tomorrow on "washington journal" two presidential candidates cake cake your calls and questions. jill stein from the green party, and the author of "party matters," virgil goode. >> it is the number one priority, and it is the most untouchable thing. that is going to cause more trouble than any other prop problem we have currently in the united states. getting medicare costs under control is the number one thing. >> you say we also surcharge smokers? >> yes. >> for their medicare coverage. where did you get that idea? >> it came from us. i'm the person that put it in the memo, but i didn't have to fight very hard for it. i have been accused of being incensetive, which i guess i probably am. i mean, i'm not really a democrat, but i'm certainly similar to the democrats in that thinking. if you have it, someone has to pay for it. >> we're not the only ones making arguments like this. the task force that was heade

until the 2012 election. mitt romneyandpaulryanarescrambling. robert gibbs is here tonight to respond. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> you can use your charitable deduction or home mortgage deduction and can fill a that bucket, if you will. >> mitt romney breaks out the golden bucket to save his budget. tonight, obama campaign's senior adviser on mitt romney's fuzzy math. >>> devastating new poll numbers show mitt romney's secret video is crushing his campaign. >> i'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility. >> richard wolffe on how aggressive the president needs e to be on the 47% tape. >>> mitt romney's billionaire base is starting to lose their cool. >> we need leadership, not criticism. we need encouragement, not discouragement. >> e.j. deon on why billionaires who do so well under obama can't stand the president. >>> and democrats with a victory for voters in pennsylvania, but republican voter fraud is getting swept under the rug here in colorado. tonight the latest on the rnc's voter fraud scandal. >>> good to have you with us. than

middle class tax cut message and i think vice presidentialcandidatepaulryanhasbeen listening to a few things i have had to say. take a watch. >> growth tax reform, it cuts tax rates by 20%, more take home pay for the middle class. that right there creates about 7 million jobs. >> sit enough, though? does mitt romney get it? our kudlow congress is going to come back in session and see if nick can make the break through. >>> welcome back to the kudlow report, i'm larry kudlow, in this half hour, hold your breath. if bush tax cuts are not extended, watch those popular home short sales being stopped short. that's very important, could cause a wave in foreclosures and another wave in the journey turn in housing. and if that doesn't scare you, it's the first monday in october. and the key issues this year, affirmative action, same sex action, will the john roberts supreme court continue to reshape the country in a liberal or conservative direction? that's what we need to know. 36 days remaining until the election, sometime for some tough love on tax policies. paul ryan appeared on

: on this monday morning we want to get your take on the vice-presidential nominees jill bidenandpaulryanandpaul ryan. will they impact your votes in november? here are the numbers to call -- a couple other ways to get involved in the program, twitter and facebook. or you can send an e-mail. we look forward to talking to you. here's the front page of the new york times -- their first debate is wednesday, so they are laying low today. that gives us a chance to check in with you on the vice presidential candidates. here are some of the weekend's events with paul ryan and vice president biden on the weekend from the papers in florida. one headline -- and this story in the boston herald -- that the play on words to the new hampshire state motto. just a sprinkling of the weekend coverage. here's a piece on paul ryan and joseph biden. [video clip] >> they voted against extending the middle class tax cuts. why? because they were holding it hostage to make sure they could continue their tax cuts. and romney adds another tax cut with a total cost to the economy of $1.70 trillion. it is $250,000

between vice president joe biden andcongressmanpaulryan? >>>and wooing the vets out there. why the president who killed bin laden is struggling with that voting bloc? i get the opportunity to talk with the man enlisted to get vets to switch sides, the vice president's son, beau biden. is 7.8% unemployment the real october surprise? we want to know what you think about that. tweet me or find me on facebook, thoma thomasarobertsmsnbc. and decided to be...not boring. that's how i met marilyn... giada... really good. yes! [ jack ] ...and alicia. ♪ this girl is on fire [ male announcer ] use any citi card to get the benefits of private pass. more concerts, more events, more experiences. [ jack ] hey, who's boring now? [ male announcer ] get more access with the citi card. [ crowd cheering, mouse clicks ] >>> welcome back. we continue to follow breaking news on msnbc. both the president and mitt romney having live events in virginia this hour on the heels of those new job numbers putting unemployment at its lowest level in nearly four years. the new number, 7.8%. but are those numb

making in this campaign. >>nowpaulryanhashis own secret tape about the 30% who want welfare. >>> and eric cantor and the tea party strutted into washington two years ago pushing radical ideas. now they're hiding from their far right agenda. too bad we won't let them. >>> and this race has been the tale of two mitts, but only can show up for tomorrow night's debate. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. snoou. >>> mitt romney has been preparing for the debate by debating a republican senator, who's playing the part of president obama. yeah. meanwhile, president obama has been preparing for romney by debating an atm machine. ally bank. why they're always there to talk. i love you, james. don't you love me? i'm a robot. i know. i know you're a robot! but there's more in you than just circuits and wires! uhhh. (cries) a machine can't give you what a person can. that's why ally has knowledgeable people there for you, night and day. ally bank. your money needs an ally. >>> have you checked us out on facebook? the "politicsnation" nation conversation is going around the clock.

. john, this is how romney's runningmatepaulryanaddressedthe 47% comment captured in that secret video yesterday. take a listen. >> is there any way possible that this 47% can pay a nominal fee or something so they feel that they have small ownership in the government and maybe they won't take all the handouts so readily? >> i've got an idea. let's help them get a job so they're good paycheck so they're good taxpayers. >> so, paul ryan says 89-year-old great grandmothers, currently using benefits, should go and get a job. >> it's not just the grandmothers and veterans. the working poor, who are given something called the earned income tax -- >> who are actually employed -- >> he knows this. so, this is really shameful. paul ryan knows better. he's trying to tap into the anti-moocher vote. and it's -- in the past, it's been a significant number of people in this country who think there are a bunch of lay-abouts lying on the couch, watching tv and eating cheetos. 45% do work. they just don't make enough money. the government decided under ronald reagan at first, give them a tax cre

to with contraception, but you had the same strong catholic condemnation ofcongressmanpaulryan's budgetbecause it cuts to the poor. that goes back to it comes down to what is the issue versus a party. a lot of political folks do not understand that, that you might have folks who will be against you on this issue because it does not aligned with their fate, but will support you on something else because it does. >> you see the infighting on the catholic church. the nuns on the bus -- that empowered latinos who grew up with nuns around them. >> political laziness -- some of these issues on religious a lever, one inwilllever the process. if people can pull one or two levers, we will lose out on the bigger picture. we need to make sure we to evaluate what each party is doing and ask what does the bigger picture look like. that's not be swayed by one issue or another so we forfeit 23 months of lawmaking and reengage when the campaign hits the trail again. >> religion is as active in this campaign as it was four years ago, the big reason for that is mitt romney is reluctant to talk about his fate, a

points there. he first went afterrepresentativepaulryanthegop vice-presidential candidate and his budget proposals. that said he's also going after medicare. given the demographic makeup of the sunshine state, which has a large already older population, it becomes no surprise that the latest polls show the president with a lead in the sunshine state. now at the same time paul ryan is campaigning himself in new hampshire today. the republican vice-presidential nominee met with voters in the city of derry just a short time ago. >> all these promises were made in the idea of hope and change. and people -- it sounded pretty good. but when the rhetoric went aside and the time to act occurred, the ideas are the old ideas that have failed time and again. >> as for mitt romney, he spent some time in pennsylvania on friday. and despite trailing the president as much as ten points in some polls, governor romney made this bold prediction. >> it is an honor to be here with you and to be here with these cadets and to be at this extraordinary place that so many presidents past have visited. and

going on todayincludingpaulryantight-lippedon the specifics of the romney plan to cut taxes but not blow up the deficit. >>> and no animals were harmed in the making of this video. skater dude meet deer. that clip later in the show. first to the news live at 5:30 a.m. at 30 rock in new york city. >>> we begin with stories from overseas where foreign policy is coming out as the central topic in the election with much of the recent focus on the attack on bengahzi, libya. romney advisers are split on how broadly they should hit the president over his handling of the attack and why it took so long to acknowledge it was an act of terrorism. some romney advisers to keep the focus on the economy, some are saying romney should have a major foreign policy speech days after the debate. over the weekend, the white house was on the defensive after the friday's announcement that the deadly assault on the u.s. consulate in bengahzi was deliberate and organized. peter king of new york called on susan rice to resign as u.s. ambassador to the united nations after she initially claimed the at

.paulryangushedover president obama's skills on the debate stage. >> president obama is a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years. he's an experienced debater. >> shockingly, senior white house adviser david plouffe had the same feelings about governor mitt romney. >> we'd expect it all along that governor romney will have a good night. he's prepared more than any candidate in history and shown himself to be a good debater through the years. >> even the candidates were tamping down expectations yesterday. >> i don't think anyone would suggest the debates aren't important. i can't tell you how important it will be. i don't know what will happen at the debates. >> governor romney is a good debater. i'm just okay. >> the soft performance has gotten so soft it's almost evaporated. but while almost everyone seems to be muting enthusiasm in trying to undersell new jersey governor chris christie is taking a different tack. overselling with gusto. >> come thursday morning, the entire narrative of this race is going to change. we have a candidat

interest to see how vice president biden handles theradicalpaulryan. >>well, i think you can expect the vice president to show up ready to talk about paul ryan's policies but also barack obama and joe biden's policies over the last four years and where together they want to take this country. now, in terms of paul ryan, you know, he's tried to soften some of his positions and certainly mitt romney's been back and forth about whether or not he supports the ryan budget. >> sure. >> he wrapped his arms around it in the primaries when he was appealing to the base, his republican base. then when he picked paul ryan after calling him the intellectual leader of the republican party, tried to move away from some of those ideas. we know mitt romney campaigned on paul ryan's budget. >> yes, he did. >> paul ryan is paul ryan because of that budget. and, you know, i don't think that there's any chance that's not going to be part of the conversation next week. >> stephanie cutter, thank you for your time tonight on "the ed show." appreciate it. remember to answer tonight's question at the bottom

collector is talking. paulryanhasa hard time doing his math homework and best of all, a man with a doubly phallic name has endorsed governor romney. first, here's lisa. >> good morning everyone. it's not about whether you win or lose. it's how you play the game unless you're running for president then it is about winning but not according to mitt romney. in his version of reality where the polls are made up and the results don't matter he says the debates are about something bigger than winning. they're a chance for each candidate to present their funeral path to -- their future path to america. the president has said something very similar. his campaign said do not expect any big attacks because mr. obama just wants to continue his conversation with the american people. but romney is still prepping some zingers nonetheless. we may have got an bit of a preview in denver. here's a look. >> we've had 43 straight months with unemployment above 8%. what does the president have to say to all of this? he says f

a year. huge waste of brain power. so yes, tax simplification is absolutelyessential.paulryan, thevice presidential candidate, has an even better plan than romney has, and that's junk the code, have two rates after exemptions, 10% above $100,000, 25%. that would get the economy moving. >> what mike was talking about, all of these tax cuts just add to the tax code, they don't make it simpler or smaller. >> i can get behind a simpler tax code, but i'm still suffering from the ripple in the force i felt when david asman told me i was right. i'm going to lose my liberal union card. steve pointed he likes the vice president's candidate program the president's candidate. all of you republicans seem to bant paul ryawant paul ryan for, but he's not. >> i heard you say no about the idea of tax simplification. why is that not a good thing? >> we're all basing this argument predicated on lower tax rates are going to stimulate things. companies are not using the industrial capacity they have now. they laid off workers because there's no demand. cut their taxes, it doesn't mean they're go

know was the same $716 billion in savingsthatpaulryanputinto his budget, and which all of those republicans voted for. why? because it's about smart way of managing medicare. it is not taking away a single benefit. it is not cutting off a single beneficiary. it's asking the providers to manage their care better. and that was a smart thing to do. that's why paul ryan supported it, and every fact checker, not just cnn, but every fact checker that has looked at this has said it is a lie, pants-on-fire lie. >> newt gingrich, a pants-on-fire lie. >> this is baloney. what they're saying is you can take $716 billion out of a program magically but you won't have taken $716 billion out of the program. now, that is simply a denial of how the real world works. there's a reason virtually every doctor is opposed to obama care. they think it's going the lead to more bureaucracy, more red tape, lower payments, less desirable, already half the doctors in the country will not accept new medicare patients. there are hospitals starting to say we're not going to accept medicare patients. this is a

.paulryanwasout in iowa, iowa is a state having some early voting, according to our inbed out there, paul ryan wasn't making the same exhortations to the republicans in his audience to get them to go vote early. you're seeing two strategies by the obama and romney campaigns. >> what else do we learn from the nbc news/"wall street journal" poll in terms of their attitudes towards the debate? >> just on the debate front, as i was kind of saying, bill mcinturf had a conference call with us and saying -- i can't give away the data but unless there is something extraordinary -- >> point out bill is the republican half of the peter hart/mcinturf team, they work for nbc news. >> he was looking at the data and remarkable how stable it is. unless there's something really ka the ta chris mick or jarring it's going to be hard to knock these numbers out of what we've seen. it will be interesting to see the headline of what the split is between president obama and mitt romney. but bill mcinturf the republican pollster was saying it's going to have to have some kind of jolt to make the race not a

. >> and then the "huffington post" released what they consider their own bombshell tape,showingpaulryanatwhat his campaign says was on open forum, this was just last year, 2011. ryan's remarks are now being compared to romney's 47% comment. >> the good news is survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center-right 70/30 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe the american idea. only 30% want the welfare state. >> and republicans are seizing on what vice president joe biden said at a campaign event in north carolina. that set off another war of words. >> how they can justify raiding taxes on the middle class that has been buried the last four years. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been "buried." we agree. >> let's bring in the news nation political panel, associate editor and columnist for the "washington post" and msnbc analyst eugene robinson, abby stoddard, columnist for the hill, michael spir mitt romney is con nish, talk show host and chip saltzman, strategist. i would like to start off with you, i

it "forewarned." with yourhelp,paulryanandi will get elected. [cheers and applause] you'll see enterprises a large and small decide to open their doors and expand. we will see the kind of recovery that america needs and deserves. i have confidence in the american people. i know that created and patriotic people in here. we love this country. there is no other nation on earth like it. we are an exceptional nation. i believe that. when the founders wrote that document known as the declaration of independence, they changed the world with insights that god gave us our rights and not the government. [cheers and applause] these are rights which we have. i love america. my confidence in the future comes from my passion for this country and for the people of this country. do you realize how unusual we are as a people? i do not know how it began, but it is here. it is in our hearts. some years ago when i was serving as governor of my state, the then president of israel came to boston. i happen to have a lunch with him in someone's apartment. someone said to him, "what you think about america's invo

it official and he haspickedpaulryan, theyare both decent man. i do not need your boos. i need your help. i want to be straight with the. [applause] i have a bad reputation of being straight and telling you what i think. sometimes all of what i think. all kidding aside, in taking paul ryan, what gov. romney did is he has given clear definition to all of those vague assertions he was making during his primary campaign. he talked a lot about a lot of the things paul ryan is talking about, but never in any detail. by laying out why he was picking paul ryan, he picked paul ryan because paul bryant represents the ideological -- the center of the republican party. host: the vice president yesterday. the question is, arthur party is still relevant? when the walker has this-- wendy walker has this -- from the campaign trail in new hampshire, congressman paul ryan campaigning in the southern part of the state. >> this is a high-stakes election. if we have four more years like the last four years, we will continue stagnation. the choice is very clear. do we want a dynamic and growing economy that

thatpaulryanandi have a plan. it is not a repeat of the last four years because we cannot afford four more years of the last four years. it is an entirely different direction. it has five different parts. number one, we will take advantage of our energy, coal, gas, oil, nuclear. the president has cut in half the number of permits and licenses on federal lands and in federal waters. i will double them. the president has made it virtually impossible to build a coal industry in this country. we have a lot of coal and i want to use it. the want thet w keystone pipeline. i will get us that oil from canada. i will open up more trade. we can trade on a fair basis with people around the world. but when people steal our jobs and trade practices as a china has, i will hold them accountable. we cannot let our jobs get stolen unfairly. i want to make sure the people have the skills that they need to succeed. i want training programs that prepare people for the jobs of today. right now have 47 different federal training programs reporting to eight different agencies. think of the overhead and the

they deserved. >> since you're the inside track there is for instance, do you knowwherepaulryanistonight? where he watched? >> do you know what? i've got paul's schedule and i don't remember where he finished tonight. and this is -- i may talk with him tomorrow but this is a big night and a big night because governor romney delivered a specific bold plan with vision. and the president was just not inspired tonight. i'm not sure why he would show up unprepared and not ready to go but that is what he did. this is going to be remembered i think for years still to come. this is a day an incumbent president showed up not ready. >> mike murphy tweeted tonight it's funny, tonight romney is much better than his campaign, obama, far worse this says governor romney did look a little different than on the campaign trail. am i wrong about that? >> this is he's been doing this for a long time. this just gave an opportunity in this forum and setting to present himself to the american people and this he did it. i loved the way he started saying you're not going play this rich versus poor game 90 minute

on c- span. mitt romneyandpaulryanwillbe in virginia for a rally this evening. it is a rally and country music concert with trace adkins. we will follow that with your phone calls as well. tennessee. elliott, welcome. >> how are you doing today? >> fine, thanks. >> i would like to say about the speech obama just made -- i think he has had is time for the four years, and it seems like we are worse off than we have ever been. he has had his time to prove to us that he could do it, but he has not prove anything to us. the people on social security today are starving to death and he has not help us one bit. as far as the war in iraq, he says he has ended that. if he finds our man over there is still getting killed, why does and he just bring our man at home and get them out of theire? sir, i thank you for your time, and god bless you. >> on our debate hub at c- span.org, we have broken a speech down into various clips. as the rally started this afternoon in denver, president obama responded to some of the comments of mitt romney. here is how it looked this afternoon. [video clip]

of fireworks. battleground virginia is getting a lot of attention. it starts tonight with mitt romneyandpaulryan.mitt romney will hold a rally tomorrow. the president will be in vienna, va. tomorrow. monday, governor romney is back with a speech in lexington, virginia. our coverage of the day after nhe debate continues o wjla.com. we have local reaction. what you thought as the debate on with their instant reaction and the latest updates from the campaign trail. >> police said the together a they believehe man salted five women in springfield -- a sketch of the believed us all to five women in springfield. on last two attacks happened hidden avenue. e other three in the nearby area. we showed the sketch to residents of the arab today. the community is that -- of the today. is on high alert. strong was released from jail. gonzales is now charged with murder.d accused of beating the 72- old man with a baseball t last month in an effort to take his wallet. the victim was hospitalized. >> a day in court for a young man involved in a fiery police pursuit in chevy chase. you might remember three

? is biden going to hold his ownwithpaulryan? >>it's high drama. you tune in because first of all everybody anticipates the possible gaffe that could come from joe biden. although in these circumstances he tends not to slip up. >> we got to go? >> they raised the bar for paul ryan. >> we'll see you next week in kentucky. throw it back to wolf right now. back to wolf blitzer. >>> pete, thanks very much for some unsolicited advicadvice. right now we're waiting on the president in madison, wisconsin. a huge crowd is there. will the president be on fire? will he be cool? will he be hot? standby. we're going to hear he's getting ready to start speaking there. we'll take him live when we come back. but things are starting to turn around because of business people like you. and regions is here to help. with the experience and service to keep things rolling. from business loans to cash management, we want to be your partner moving forward. so switch to regions. and let's get going. together. and sounds vying for your attention. so we invented a warning you can feel. introducing the all-ne

will understand, and if they do, i get elected. >> reporter: his runningmate,paulryan, isalready preparing for his own debate a week away. >> i really believe in the policies that we're providing, we're pursuing. and at the end of the day, i'm just going to go in there and be me. >> reporter: and if you can't control what actually happens in the debate, you certainly control what happens afterwards. the spin already in the planning. ryan's going to be with romney in virginia. the president is staying in colorado for a rally there. veronica? >> tracie, we appreciate it. thank you. >>> nato forces in afghanistan say three international service members and their translator were killed in a suicide bombing in the eastern part of the country this morning. this as the war in afghanistan reached a grim milestone sunday with a death of the 2,000th u.s. service member. nbc's chief foreign correspondent richard engel has the details. >> reporter: there has been another insider attack, the so-called green on blue attack, when afghan troops attack and kill their american partners. so far, this year, t

and to the extent that this electionofpaulryanandhis liabilities on medicare is becoming a problem for the romney campaign and perhaps even in some of the senate raises? >> who would like to go first? >> well, in 2008, if we just look at the seniors and the exit polls president obama lost seniors by eight points and then in 2010 midterm elections, with the exit polls aggregated the exit polls for the senate raises democrats lost by 20 which was one reason why -- and then looking to our nbc "wall street journal" poll the president was trailing seniors by close to the 2008 margin, nine points and look, i think that you know, i think paul ryan is a very smart person. i think clearly the romney team must feel he is a qualified to be president president of the united states. is a democratic analyst, to us it just sort of reignited the whole medicare issue because you know we have spent a lot of time and glen and i do senate and house campaigns, talking about the ryan plan. and you know, sometimes we talk about the ryan plan without saying the ryan plan because people didn't know who pau

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