I hope Epstein gives names and information, to save his own skin. Watching these elites turn on each other will be entertaining. As for Andrew, if he is ordered to appear before a court and refuses to comply, it WILL cause a HUGE diplomatic/political mess that will have repercussions on our 'special friendship' with the UK. It would have to be dealt with by Parliament and would of course end up affecting trade with other countries. Andrew's reputation would completely collapse and of course, the Yorkies would suffer. I wonder if Fergie would be ordered to appear in court.

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Thanks, clarified that. Some of these papers/mags should get their facts straight. Thanks Ariel for the info. Still think he should be charged and sent to trial, disgusting and vile creature that he is.

Friend sent me this piccie of him when younger. Not a pretty sight the two of them.

Yuk - His activities were not just a one off then, been going on for many years and according to those close, terrified about the rest coming out. Trouble is all those involved thought they were above the law. Now there are many who are determined that it will all come out, the perpetrators exposed and punished no matter who they are.

^Like the old saying goes, 'birds of a feather flock together'... Andy association with these types of people likely means he has lots in common with them.

Innocence is presumed until prosecution proves otherwise in the US, but oftentimes one's reputation is in the gutter by that point. That is happening already in this case, guilt by association, and all.

here's how i predict that it will go. if the jane does convince the judge to waive epstein's sweet deal - next thing you know - all those billionaires will get on trial. and then it will be interesting to see which one will turn his back on the pals and strike a deal. this case will also be a very interesting precedent because the prosecutor who stroke the deal for epstein is also co-conspirator.

now - if the jane does have the right to go after randy andy -i.e. the sweet deal is overturn- he will have to get in court. he may try to prolong it till he's 60 but he'll eventually get to the court. and then - even though he is innocent until proven guilty - his faith is in the hands of the jury and the jury is people like me. maybe not like me -the defense will try to get more men in the room but men who do not have teenage daughters and also will try to avoid getting women on the jury list because they'll sympathize with the victims and find him guilty on all charges.

in other words - even though randy andy is innocent until proven guilty - the circumstantial evidence and establishing his character with pictures like the one above will be enough for the jury to send him behind bars.

Thing is, I do think there's plenty of concrete evidence to send him to trial and possibly to prison. Any billionaires and other people like Stephen Hawkings will sing like opera girls to strike a deal, which means that Andrew might end up on the stand with no allies to help get him off. After all, if the deal with Epstein is overturned, Epstein WILL panic and end up doing ALL he can to end up saving his own skin. I don't believe Andrew will survive any US judicial process.

As for Andrew, it'll be a (deserved) huge dilemma. He'll end up either going to court and facing the music, or he'll delay, which will just end up causing horrendous damage via PR and diplomatic goodwill. He'll end up like Roman Polanski, a British version.

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^ Brilliant Val, and again so very true. Bet he was hidden away safe in the Falklands, quivery in his namby pamby boots, definitely not got any "baubles" down there at all. Same for Prince Harry, he was hidden away in a bunker when there was activity in Afghanistan. They should never have been there in the first place. Doubt either is ready to give their life for Queen and country, all far too cushy and free, why would they want to give it up. Loads of work, medal and "perks", not going to risk that are they.

^ Brilliant Val, and again so very true. Bet he was hidden away safe in the Falklands, quivery in his namby pamby boots, definitely not got any "baubles" down there at all. Same for Prince Harry, he was hidden away in a bunker when there was activity in Afghanistan. They should never have been there in the first place. Doubt either is ready to give their life for Queen and country, all far too cushy and free, why would they want to give it up. Loads of work, medal and "perks", not going to risk that are they.

In full agreement here in my view. Harry did nothing exceptional in Afghanistan and he's no military soldier or he wouldn't be pulling half his antics. He also wouldn't be doing half his jet setting and certainly would not be engaged in so many other activities.

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Yes they are; no matter how hyped, Harry is purely ornamental. I do think this will be the final undoing of the Yorks and heaven knows HOW Harry will ever restore the prestige of the title "Duke of York."

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Young woman at the centre of Prince Andrew scandal says the FBI have videos of her having sex with Jeffrey Epstein and 'powerful friends' while she was underage

Virginia Roberts alleges she was 'loaned out' to friends of Jeffrey Epstein Named Prince Andrew and lawyer Alan Dershowitz among those involved Claimed she was forced to have sex with prince on three occasions In sworn statement filed yesterday, she claimed FBI possess key evidence Said Epstein had cameras in rooms where she had sex while underage Believes that FBI now has the videos which would support her claims Prince Andrew, Alan Dershowitz, Jeffrey Epstein strongly deny allegations

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I don't think so. This case wouldn't have gotten so far if there weren't some kind of concrete evidence and frankly I think the 'dark forces' HM mentioned to Paul Burrell are currently viewing the House of Windsor with disfavor.

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