We have over 51000 driven miles on our '02 Envoy & 35000 towed miles...What do you plan on doing, sitting in one place & waxing it.<G>

TerryAt SLC, UT

We only have 50k driven miles on our 01 Grand Cherokee and at least as many towed miles. Never really kept track of the off road miles but I'm sure we have quite a few off road miles as part of the driven miles.

Well Terry, we won;t be doing much off road stuff in a Ford Taurus wagon. Maybe that is the difference? On the other hand, if the mileage indicator moves along while under tow, maybe that is the cause?

You have to remember, that while I am learning a lot, so much of this is new to me.

All I know is that the actual amount of driving we will do in the toad will be a tiny portion of the driving we will do in the mothership. Consequently in our own budget we only have a fraction of the amount budgeted for fuel that is budgeted for the mothership.

Do you think we are making a mistake here?

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Smoky S Ham radio - W3PY

The magic of a campfirewhere the fish get biggerthe mountains get higherthe hike was uphill both waysand new friends become old friends

2005 KSDP3910 Newmar Kountry StarToad - Taurus wagon w/ axle lockOn our way to the Poudre River in Colorado for the summer!

Our experience is very much like Ron and Terry's. We have about 40K driving miles on our 02 Grand Cherokee and close to the same amount of towed miles. Virtually all of the late model cars do not register towed miles on the odometer - it is electronic so if the car ignition is off or in the unlocked position the miles don't register.

Oh Gawd Karl! Do not under any circumstances mention the J word to me!

We figure to use the toad for grocery shopping and the occasional sight see trip where the MH can't reach.

In my ten week trip in 2003 I can honestly say only once did I go somewhere the MH wouldn't have gone and that was to the grand canyon. Actually I could have towed the trailer to a nearby park and driven the last few miles in the truck, but for some reason chose to stay in the Utah campground.

I hope I don't catch whatever habits you guys have that cause such a high ratio of toad to MH mileage.

I will be putting in long miles on the MH as we plan to circumnavigate the US every year. Don;t plan to come anywhere close to that in the Taurus.

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Smoky S Ham radio - W3PY

The magic of a campfirewhere the fish get biggerthe mountains get higherthe hike was uphill both waysand new friends become old friends

2005 KSDP3910 Newmar Kountry StarToad - Taurus wagon w/ axle lockOn our way to the Poudre River in Colorado for the summer!

>>I hope I don't catch whatever habits you guys have that cause such a high ratio of toad to MH mileage.<<

Boy, do you have a lot to learn. We are staying in SLC, UT for a week as a base to see the sights. Yesterday the Johnson's & us drove to Kennecott Mines where you couldn't take your MH & then to Antelope Island where you wouldn't want to take it for one day...a little over 150 miles. A trip up the mts to Park City will be about 70 miles. Moab drives were often over 100 miles as were side trips in Capitol Reef, Bryce & Zion.

We do a lot of driving but split our driving between the MH and the toad. Not really too convenient to drive the MH to the market, post office, flea market, of on the White Rim Trail or Chicken Corners trail.

Didn't mean to make you make a mad dash for the Valium. No more mention of 'that' word

Unless you plan on driving your MH to places and leaving the toad at the CG, you'll probably put more miles on the toad than the MH. When you're towing it, the motor may not be turning (hopefully not), but those wheels keep "Rollin', rollin' rollin'..." anyway.

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Smoky, If you like malts the very best in the country are found at the Yellowstone drug store in Shoshone Wyo,

I Think Ron misunderstood what you meant by single malts. Ron, that's single malt Scotch Whisky - just ask Tom! And no, I didn't misspell whisky

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Karl (Cheesehead) Kolbus Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy cow ...what a ride!"

Are your sure you are turning the ignition key to the correct position? Are there any fuses that you have to pull?

Bernie, on the Burb, Tahoe and Envoy, you tow with the ignition key out. There's no mechanical lock on the steering of these cars. The Tahoe and Envoy do not rack up towing miles, but the Burb does. There is probably a fuse I could pull, although it's not identified in the owners manual.