Yeah. But dude is a heart-attack in waiting... it took about 5 years between Swords and Crows, and 6 between Crows and Dragons. And even if he finishes Winter before dying, he still needs to finish Spring...

Heck, in the board where I first saw the news posted... about 75% of the comments are basically "Finish ASOIAF first, you asshole" over, and over again.

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I'm excited to see what he can come up with for HBO. I'm also more and more worried that he'll suffer a Jordan.

However, I think that even with all this Winds of Winter may be here before 2016. He spent a lot of the time between 2000 and 2011 rewriting and scrapping large parts of the books (creating a 5 year gap, then going back and filling it in, splitting Feast and Dance, then deciding that that didn't work after all). He may have a better handle on things this time around.

But he's still the author that tried starting a series for 20 years or so, and always got distracted after writing the first novel or story. Reading Dreamsongs didn't really fill me with confidence that he's capable of finishing this...

KysenMurrin wrote:If he doesn't finish it, too bad, but he owes us nothing and it's no call for insults.

In the net there are a lot of resentment ever since he called the commenters that didn't like his last books puppets or something...Well Kysen, it's always different to each person... for some they buy a book and are happy (or not happy if they didn't like it), for others they bought a part of a series and they resent not being able to finish it.

If you buy 3episodes of a serie then you learn that the 6th episode is canceled... you might like the episodes but still feel cheated.

For me, i don't think he owes me anything if he refunds me for the last two books... and plants a tree to make up for that waste of good paper.

P.S. But i wholly agree with you about the "it's no call for insults."

An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded.

Well, is Neil the most "independent" person to comment on this? Or doesn't he worked together with George on somethings? I remebember some praises of GRRM about his books and vice-versa or something like that?

KysenMurrin wrote:Why are we talking about starting series in the middle now?

When you buy a book in the middle of a series it's different from buying a book stand alone. Honestly, i didn't buy 5 books of ASoIaF, i bought volume I,II,III,IV, V.Cmon guys this is rubish... If you go and buy a book and the last chapter isn't a "The End", it is acceptable... even if you prefer if it had a finish.When you buy a book and the last chapter is blank and says "couldn't be bother to finish\i found other thing i prefer to write about" it's totally diferent thing.

Do i agree that when a series is started there are some "moral obligations" to finish? YESDo i agree that when a series is started a writer is "forced" to finish and in the time "I" want? NOReading a series can be compared to sexual intercourse, reading it is not garantee the writer will take you to the end/orgasm.. but if he doesn't give it to you it's not the same.

An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded.

Paxen wrote:IMO book 1 to 3 are worth it even if the series never ends.

It's not like 4 and 5 are drek on the level of Wheel of time book 7-10.

This is what i think... Wheel of time still had some actions even if they were irrelevant for the series... ASoIaF not so much?

I'd be a lot happier of Jordan wrote book 6, and then didn't write anything between 1996 and 2995, at which time he released one book that would have been enough for what was in book 7 to 10, and then Knife of Dreams.

As it stands now WoT is complete, but is deeply marred by the middle books. I prefer Martins version, and it would again have been better if he scrapped Feast and instead released the fourth book in 2010 when he finally managed to make the damn thing work without 5 year interludes and split books.

Well, is Neil the most "independent" person to comment on this? Or doesn't he worked together with George on somethings? I remebember some praises of GRRM about his books and vice-versa or something like that?