Well, it's true. He ran the moneylenders out of the Temple with a whip He made right there on the spot! They say the size of the temple area was about equal to 33 football fields, so you just know Jesus had some serious Chuck Norris moves! Alas, today we do not follow this particular practice anymore as we are compelled by scriptures to obey the law, which does not allow us to publicly flog those who offend the LORD (Romans 13:1-2).

Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

Originally Posted in the original post I John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

I don't know if recent posters have read Post #1 but it's linked in that quote and here is where God's statement on the matter may be confirmed.

There is no logic involved. The statement is unambiguous. However, not everyone claiming to be "born of God" are in fact so. False churches have preached a different Gospel—one they made up for themselves as part of a gigantic extortion racket—and of course they tell you that even if you've received their numerous "sacraments" you are still a sinner and need to keep paying their priests to have them forgiven. These are not Christian Churches, whatever they say.

Some of them say that The Bible alone is not adequate and there needs to be tradition. That might be acceptable for someone who never read The Bible but we know that the tradition is satanic BECAUSE what it teaches contradicts The Bible.

Were God to continue revelation through some "church" it is certain that what He revealed would agree with what He had already revealed, in The Bible. It is not. Therefore those churches are false. How many widows have paid their last cent into the unquenchable maw of the vatican to get their late husbands promoted from pergatory? How many expensive idols set up?

And in Asia they like monstrous solid gold idols. These things don't come cheap, and there is only one source of revenue. The poor duped "sinners" never making merit or getting their loved ones out of hell or ever paying enough tp the clergy or knowing freedom. Jesus explains:

JOHN 834 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.KJV..look up.context

No-one being extorted is free. Therefore they have not been set free.

Christians have been set free, The passages quoted apply to Christians. Christians are incapable of sin. No-one teaching the opposite of what Jesus Himself taught is any sort of Christian.

I am laughing out loud at how excellent the posts remarked have been. You folks are quite right about the facts displayed here. It brings me joy to know that there are more smart people in the world now.

I am laughing out loud at how excellent the posts remarked have been. You folks are quite right about the facts displayed here. It brings me joy to know that there are more smart people in the world now.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

You really think you are perfect don't you, you piffleing animal. Just out of spite of you small minded ***NAUGHTY WORDS REMOVED*** God is real and piffleING CRUSHES YOUR HOPES AND DREAMS AND SENDS YOU TO BURN IN THE DEEPEST PIT OF HELL, WHERE YOU WILL BECOME SATANS ***NAUGHTY WORDS REMOVED***.

Last edited by Mary Etheldreda; 08-12-2014 at 01:19 AM.
Reason: Let's keep it clean for Jesus!

You really think you are perfect don't you, you piffleing animal. Just out of spite of you small minded ***NAUGHTY WORDS REMOVED*** God is real and piffleING CRUSHES YOUR HOPES AND DREAMS AND SENDS YOU TO BURN IN THE DEEPEST PIT OF HELL, WHERE YOU WILL BECOME SATANS ***NAUGHTY WORDS REMOVED***.

The fact that you have gone to the trouble to register an account here and persecute us on our own forum only goes to show how much we're rattling Satan's cage. If you'd like to continue unintentionally heaping blessings upon us and proving how right we are, please continue spewing your anti-Christian hate speech. To put it in terms you might understand, it "gets us off."
Matthew 5:10-11
Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

Matthew 10:22
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Luke 6:22
Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.

II Thessalonians 1:7-9And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power

The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony

Here I am, straight, middle aged male, never knowingly broken any law, don't smoke, don't drink, married for nearly 40 years, never committed adultery and have always, throughout my adult life, devoted a day for others.

As someone who was brought up Roman Catholic, I hope that some of you may understand how disillusioned I became with the faith on hearing of the preiesthood's pedophile rings existence. Let me tell you that nothing prepared me for that revelation. You could say that I lost my way.

So, given the recent atrocities that have been occurring in Syria and Iraq I felt it was time , once again, to re-aqaint myself with Christianity but outside the Catholic Church and I found myself here.

Somehow I found my way to Pastor Rune Enoe guide to the 10 commandments and to say I am horrified by what I read is an understatement. I suggest that we all take some time to read the guidelines very very closely.

If you truly believe in Pastor Rune Enoe's interpretation of the punishments for failing to adhere to the commandments then I have to say you are on a Par with IS and in many ways more barbaric and bloodthirsty that the savages who consider it just to behead 2 of your fellow Americans, 1 of my countrymen and more recently a French national.

Pastor Rune Enoe's states (I quote) The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

Commandment Commandment #1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Alert Level: Severe Punishment:Genocide. Entire cities with men, women, children and animals must be killed. (Deuteronomy 2:33-34, Numbers 21:34-35, 1 Samuel 15:2-3, Joshua 6:21. Joshua 10:40) In some cases you can keep the girls alive for raping. (Numbers 31:15-18)

These are the similar punishments to those that ISIL currently carry out. The one small exception is that animals are spared.

If this is true Christianity I have to say, quite forcefully, it is far from perfect

Pastor Rune Enoe's states (I quote) The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

Commandment Commandment #1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Alert Level: Severe Punishment:Genocide. Entire cities with men, women, children and animals must be killed. (Deuteronomy 2:33-34, Numbers 21:34-35, 1 Samuel 15:2-3, Joshua 6:21. Joshua 10:40) In some cases you can keep the girls alive for raping. (Numbers 31:15-18)

These are the similar punishments to those that ISIL currently carry out. The one small exception is that animals are spared.

If this is true Christianity I have to say, quite forcefully, it is far from perfect

Don't be silly. If you've read the Holy Bible you'll see that great rewards come to those who follow the LORD. You needn't be one of the cursed. Read Deuteronomy chapter 28 for further details.

Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

...Here I am, straight, middle aged male, never knowingly broken any law, don't smoke, don't drink, married for nearly 40 years, never committed adultery and have always, throughout my adult life, devoted a day for others...

So what? The Bible says none of that matters when it comes to salvation.

Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

In fact, the Bible says Jesus would be even happier if you HAD done all those things, but then stopped.

Luke 15:7 "I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance."

So go smoke 'til you choke, drink 'til you puke, and the neighbour's wife could probably use some sweet, sweet coveting all the night long.

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...These are the similar punishments to those that ISIL currently carry out...

Not quite. Islam requires that you offer the heathen one chance to convert before killing them (because Allah is merciful). God of the Bible, OTOH, not so much. They should have repented and converted before you started killing everything in sight (because God is just).

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...If this is true Christianity I have to say, quite forcefully, it is far from perfect

Maybe you could quote the sections of the Bible where Jesus says all that old Testament stuff was just a joke, don't take it so seriously, times change, etc.? Until then, consider:

Matthew 5:17 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."

Here I am, straight, middle aged male, never knowingly broken any law, don't smoke, don't drink, married for nearly 40 years, never committed adultery and have always, throughout my adult life, devoted a day for others.

As someone who was brought up Roman Catholic, I hope that some of you may understand how disillusioned I became with the faith on hearing of the preiesthood's pedophile rings existence. Let me tell you that nothing prepared me for that revelation. You could say that I lost my way.

So, given the recent atrocities that have been occurring in Syria and Iraq I felt it was time , once again, to re-aqaint myself with Christianity but outside the Catholic Church and I found myself here.

Somehow I found my way to Pastor Rune Enoe guide to the 10 commandments and to say I am horrified by what I read is an understatement. I suggest that we all take some time to read the guidelines very very closely.

If you truly believe in Pastor Rune Enoe's interpretation of the punishments for failing to adhere to the commandments then I have to say you are on a Par with IS and in many ways more barbaric and bloodthirsty that the savages who consider it just to behead 2 of your fellow Americans, 1 of my countrymen and more recently a French national.

Pastor Rune Enoe's states (I quote) The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

Commandment Commandment #1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Alert Level: Severe Punishment:Genocide. Entire cities with men, women, children and animals must be killed. (Deuteronomy 2:33-34, Numbers 21:34-35, 1 Samuel 15:2-3, Joshua 6:21. Joshua 10:40) In some cases you can keep the girls alive for raping. (Numbers 31:15-18)

These are the similar punishments to those that ISIL currently carry out. The one small exception is that animals are spared.

If this is true Christianity I have to say, quite forcefully, it is far from perfect

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

Ok, Stupid, let's look at some facts here. The ONLY evidence that Jesus, Mary, or John ever existed is the Bible. If you accept the Bible's word for that, how do you then disregard what the Bible says about True Christians™ being perfect? You can't hold up one thing it says while denying everything else.

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...You all claiming to be true Christians and perfect, wow, that's just wrong.

Any assertion made with no evidence is merely opinion, and easily dismissed.

Only Jesus, Mary, and John the Baptist were perfect. You all claiming to be true Christians and perfect, wow, that's just wrong.

Mary was perfect? She got pregnant out of wedlock!

It was only by the grace of God she wasn't stoned for it!

Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

Only Jesus, Mary, and John the Baptist were perfect. You all claiming to be true Christians and perfect, wow, that's just wrong.

Reads like catholicism, probably is catholicism.
In which case why does Mary need to be perfect?
The means of sin, originally introduced by Eve but transmitted to everyone else via Adam, was absent from Jesus NOT because His mother was sinless but because HIS FATHER was sinless. Check out your own dogma here:

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http://www.newadvent.org/summa/2081.htm
Although the soul is not transmitted, because the power in the semen is not able to cause the rational soul, nevertheless the motion of the semen is a disposition to the transmission of the rational soul: so that the semen by its own power transmits the human nature from parent to child, and with that nature, the stain which infects it: for he that is born is associated with his first parent in his guilt, through the fact that he inherits his nature from him by a kind of movement which is that of generation.

I don't think God gets women stoned before He impregnates them. That would be wrong. He just sends an angel to get them ready, first.

My apologies to Sister Mary Etheldreda for my recent post. I misunderstood what she meant in her comment. Yes, without God's grace, women who commit adultery the way Mary did should be stoned. That goes without saying, because the Bible says it.

A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. Proverbs 26:3