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ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.comSun, 02 Aug 2015 20:40:13 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: mkat33http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/05/signs-currently-point-to-cooper-getting-a-second-chance/#comment-2702921
Tue, 06 Aug 2013 11:24:25 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-2702921@stealthieone: I posted in defense of Cooper keeping his job, but I did not defend his words.

1. I’m not an expert in Florida law, but I do think Zimmerman should have stayed in his car and kept his distance from Martin. If thee is a charge of criminal stupidity, I expect I would find him guilty. But, as I said, I’m not qualified to question the verdict because I wasn’t in the court or the jury room and I don’t know for sure what happened that night.

2. Vick actually killed the dogs. Cooper caused no physical harm to any person, let alone an entire ethnic group. And, although words can hurt, why would an entire ethnic group, or any member of it, allow themselves to be hurt by the words of a drunken idiot that they don’t even know. Cut me a break.

3. No amnesia here. I believe that Rapelisberger is scum and was allowed to buy his way out of prison. That just shouldn’t be.

But what really speaks volumes is how you place the importance of lives of dogs over an entire ethnic group.

Or when you’re saying all the bad things nfl players have did or been accused of… Its only black players… As if everyone has amnesia when it comes to rothlisberger raping TWO women.

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Mon, 05 Aug 2013 19:56:29 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-2701649This is between Cooper and his employer period. Neither McCoy nor any other player on the team can trade Cooper, cut him, put him on LOA, nothin’.

Cooper PO’d his boss, the boss probably senses this could hurt potentially hurt cash flow, and now he has a decision to make.

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Mon, 05 Aug 2013 19:34:19 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-2701575If a precedent is going to be set, then it needs to be set.

You want to fine him? Fine, fine him.

You want to suspend him? Fine, suspend him.

You want to kick him out of the league? Fine, kick him out of the league.

HOWEVER, the next time ANYONE else says it, it MUST be the EXACT SAME PUNISHMENT! And every player after that, the same consequence.

No exceptions. The rules need to be beyond the color of skin. ANYONE says the word – GONE.

In the immortal words of Dr. King:

“I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood…..I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”

ANYONE who has said the “N” word, has NO RIGHT to say anything about Cooper saying it.

In the immortal words of Jesus Christ:

John 8:7 – “He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone”

I agree with most of the posters that what he did is not sufficient to have him lose his job. But to those people who always equate racist language with the rape of Nanking, you might have an argument for removing him if the rest of the locker room — and especially Cooper’s critics — are choir boys; i.e., no felony convictions, domestic abuse arrests, multiple children from multiple mothers; unpaid child support; and just plain sons of guns. If so, then remove him to remove the taint. But if you have a locker room full of guys that Will Rogers never met, and if the players can deal with the other miscreants, then they can deal with him.
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This is about RIley Cooper period!!! has nothing to do with other peoples background. Stop making excuses for him!!

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Mon, 05 Aug 2013 17:56:12 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-2701343What Cooper did wasn’t illegal, what Vick did was. Big difference.
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Mon, 05 Aug 2013 17:43:57 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-2701298The comparison of Vick is so widely different. Remember Vick second chance came only after getting “CUT” by his present team and then tossed in jail. Then and only then did Vick get a second chance. Ok Cooper said sorry and the jury seems split on the inherited value of that. But Cooper needs to step away from Philly on a team where 80% of his co-worker are of a race in which he disparaged extremely. His second chance would have to come on another team “IF” it is to be at all. Just like Vick, but I can’t see another locker room not having the same problem. Bottomline Cooper is not a future HOFer so he won’t be missed either way.
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Mon, 05 Aug 2013 16:58:50 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-2701190I hope he doesn’t blow his second chance by doing something inexcusable like attending another Kenny Chesney concert.
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Mon, 05 Aug 2013 16:52:13 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-2701168Wow… People love dogs more than a race of people….

Cruelty to animals means more to people than cruelty to other people!!!

Dog lovers love dogs more than their own kind, unless… maybe they are part dog ??? No???

]]>By: mrshill0905http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/05/signs-currently-point-to-cooper-getting-a-second-chance/#comment-2701065
Mon, 05 Aug 2013 16:13:46 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-2701065To compare a race to DOGS…is idiotic!! Just Ridiculous!! You need better justifications…and why does no one mention Ben Rothlisberger???
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Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:59:11 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-2701027I agree with most of the posters that what he did is not sufficient to have him lose his job. But to those people who always equate racist language with the rape of Nanking, you might have an argument for removing him if the rest of the locker room — and especially Cooper’s critics — are choir boys; i.e., no felony convictions, domestic abuse arrests, multiple children from multiple mothers; unpaid child support; and just plain sons of guns. If so, then remove him to remove the taint. But if you have a locker room full of guys that Will Rogers never met, and if the players can deal with the other miscreants, then they can deal with him.
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Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:47:44 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-2701000Vick came out and said he and the team accepted the apology from Cooper. Vick seemed ready to move on. That’s good enough for me.
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Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:32:42 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-2700978If I was a black player in the Eagle locker room, I would now feel confident I know how Cooper feels about black people. I certainly would feel that in no way that would have anything to do with his ability to play football. now i might want to know how he feels about Obama care, gay marriage, abortion and world peace.
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Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:15:58 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-2700944everybody is dying to know— what does Warren Moon have to say?
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Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:14:04 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-2700938It just drives me crazy about this Cooper thing.. Yeah, he was a dumb-ass and by all accounts his apology was sincere.. Was his discretion worst than some of the players disrespecting women (McCoy) or murder (Stallworth, Lewis) or so many other spousal battery offenses. What about the racial attack by Charlie Rangle or Race Baiting Al Sharpton… Mr. Mayor where is your condemnation of these A-holes??? Just sayin..
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Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:08:29 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-2700929I heard Faulk, sanders and Irvin discuss this on NFLN and every single one of them agreed that they can’t ask anyone to stop saying that word unless they as a race stop doing it. I don’t think this is mostly black players who can’t let it go. In my opinion, this is the media (“1-800 whitey guilt” if you remember the old “In Living Color” skit) that can’t let it go.

There’s almost no one who don’t believe the word is awful (along with other slurs) and wouldn’t use it. All races have the same opportunities to succeed, unlike pre civil rights legislation minorities. I have to ask, whose agenda does it serve to keep dividing races and people of different sexual orientations over words?

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Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:48:58 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-27008941. I don’t give a flying flip what Peter King believes. What I believe is that King is a pompous ass who will take any chance to put someone down because he thinks it makes himself look better.

2. Cooper’s production or lack thereof should have no bearing on this discussion. If what he did was unforgivably wrong, he should go. If it was regrettable and offensive, yet forgivable, choice of words, he should stay. Anyone who says otherwise may as well say they have no problem with politicians being corrupt, so long as they bring home an ample amount of pork. Right is right. Wrong is wrong. Period.

3. I don’t give others the power to offend me. For Cooper to say what he said, he truly was too drunk to be held responsible or he’s too intellectually inferior to know better. Either way, that’s not good enough to give him any power over my feelings. How about these big, bad football players whose “ittle feewings” are hurt man up and stop being such a bunch of wimps . . . especially those who have done a lot worse things than Cooper did. I’m sure most of them have also said very derogatory things, but weren’t unfortunate enough to have someone recording it.

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Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:48:17 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-2700892Most everybody has said the N word at least once in their life and probably more. He didn’t know that he was being recorded. Everyone needs to get on with there lives and forget about this.
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Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:43:18 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-2700883My buggiest problem with this continuing story is that it has become a non-football issue. I used to enjoy this site for insightful football conversation.

It has been relegated to a platform for anyone to vent their frustration regarding anything from gay rights to politics to racism…

Can we get back to football rumors, PLEASE

]]>By: nananatmanhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/05/signs-currently-point-to-cooper-getting-a-second-chance/#comment-2700882
Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:42:40 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-2700882The real solution is to film every drunk player that is no where near work to find out what they’re really like. Here’s a transcript of Mike Vicks video: “Kill that bitch bitch. Bitch I said kill that bitch.”
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Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:39:13 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-2700873I love the “holier than thou” posts about someone making a racial slur when teams around the league have welcomed with open arms men who have beaten their wives and girlfriends, abandoned their child support obligations, broken and entered and “dookied” in closets, beaten cops, killed people while drunk driving, been involved with killing people without driving and a myriad of other crimes against humanity.

Does anyone actually think this guy is the only NFL player to use a racial slur this year (or this month or even this week)? Does the irony not reek that we have an NFL team whose entire identity is a racial slur?!

I love football, lets get back to the game between the lines and walk away from this media bully pulpit.

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Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:22:14 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-2700832There needs to be come proportionality here (“let the punishment fit the crime”), as it turns out there are actually worse things a person can do and be forgiven for. This is, however, not to say that this isn’t a “big deal”.

Most NFL players are religious, and are willing to show “Christian forgiveness” if they feel an apology is sincere. Others would cite the fact that they have done things in life that they are glad weren’t caught on tape as they showed similarly terrible judgment.

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Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:15:12 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-2700824The unavoidable football truth here is that if Jeremy Maclin had not torn his ACL, then Cooper would already be gone.

Dylude is correct. Chip Kelly’s tenure will be forever defined by what he does in this situation. Sending Cooper off for what is nothing more than sensitivity training is only postponing the issue and the day when Cooper walks back into that locker room.

We got to remember that this wasn’t a personal thing (one on one). Riley Cooper managed to insult an entire race of human beings in public. Bottom line: If the locker room cannot not withstand this individual, then he should be gone.

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Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:09:33 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-2700816Again, what was said or done to this guy to make him mad enough to want to climb a fence and fight an entire crowd. Does anyone else have any responsibility here, or do they get a pass?
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Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:05:31 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-2700801Once the real games are being played no one in the locker room will care what Cooper said if he helps them win. This whole thing has been so overblown by the media solely for the purpose of increasing hits to their websites.
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Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:04:50 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-2700798I’m glad that “signs point” to Cooper getting another chance. But, people that don’t get the gravity of a guy being comfortable enough to rip that off at a Kenny Chesney concert and then want his African-American teammates to just forgive him, are clueless.

My guess would be if this had happened at practice in the heat of battle this would be over by now. But, Cooper only felt comfortable enough to say this when the odds were 40,000 (fans) to 10 (security guards) tells me, and likely his teammates, all I need to know about his character.

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Mon, 05 Aug 2013 13:58:54 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2200899#comment-2700783My opinion is Cooper’s problem has more to do with excessive alcohol use then him being a racist. He was severely wasted at the concert which is no excuse but certainly shouldn’t be released because of it. He needs to get his act together, learn from his mistakes, and become a better person.
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