The 2 battery-rundown graphs below provide further confirmation that a proportion of the energy being stored in this circuit is then getting recycled back into the supply storage (rechargeable battery or capacitor) - this recycled energy becomes available to do extra work, eg. by extending the battery runtime at the same power rate

the WiThFeedback circuit has extended the active runtime from the battery to approx 120%, compared to the same circuit when the feedback (read 'Looped') connection is removed

the useful battery voltage range here is taken to be 3.7V down to 3.4V (at which point the Output DC drive level starts to reduce sharply, slightly delayed from the battery voltage decrease

the unlooped circuit runs for 48s and the WiThFeedback circuit runs for 58s, providing 20% more work at a comparable level

it appears to give similar results with or without an adjacent ferrite 'core', but these results are from the tests with ferrite

i suspect that this WiThFeedback circuit concept is not novel...

as usual, Tesla got there first with his Oscillator-Shuttle-Circuits, 'bleeding' or 'siphoning off' a proportion of the total energy being shuttled between 'floating' grounds (see Barrett's paper, submitted to the Louis de Broglie Foundation in the 1990s, discussing Telsa's OSC theory)

TAKE NOTEi'm happy to continue discussing other member's attempts (with real hardware, not Sim) to replicate the results i'm getting - i think i've provided more than enough detail already - you have now got way more info than i had when i started out on this journey!

i will NOT be entering into discussion with anyone who offers cliches, strawman arguments, appeals to authority, unsupported opinions, etc, etc in place of 'terse & technical' comments related to specific results reported in this thread

"The person who says it cannot be done, should not interrupt the person doing it"

Hi NPHope you dont mind me posting this here,but it is in regards to some flyback testing i have been doing on a coil for another project.

This coil differs from most,as it has a PM for the core,and is giving some very interesting results.

The measurements taken below do not include the power dissipated by the LED,but only the power flowing into C1 from the source,and then the power flowing out of C1 into the coil.

The calculated power from C1 is only calculating the power delivered by C1 to the coil when the transistor switches on-->duty cycle is 5%.This is far greater than the power being delivered to C1 by the source.

So there is more power flowing through the coil,than there is being delivered by the source.This means that the magnetic field being built by the coil is far greater than that that could be built by the supplied power from the source. And as i stated above,this is not including the power being dissipated by the LED.

I am not sure whether RMS or average values are used to calculate power in this case?.Maybe void could shed some light on this.

Hi NPHope you dont mind me posting this here,but it is in regards to some flyback testing i have been doing on a coil for another project.

This coil differs from most,as it has a PM for the core,and is giving some very interesting results.

The measurements taken below do not include the power dissipated by the LED,but only the power flowing into C1 from the source,and then the power flowing out of C1 into the coil.

The calculated power from C1 is only calculating the power delivered by C1 to the coil when the transistor switches on-->duty cycle is 5%.This is far greater than the power being delivered to C1 by the source.

So there is more power flowing through the coil,than there is being delivered by the source.This means that the magnetic field being built by the coil is far greater than that that could be built by the supplied power from the source. And as i stated above,this is not including the power being dissipated by the LED.

I am not sure whether RMS or average values are used to calculate power in this case?.Maybe void could shed some light on this.

Brad

mind you cr@pping all over my thread again? no, of course i don't...

...as long as you don't mind me returning the favour on one of yours

If your results have any merit, then i recommend that you start your own thread about them - that way your friend Void can go there and comment about them all he likes...

Hi NPHope you dont mind me posting this here,but it is in regards to some flyback testing i have been doing on a coil for another project.......I am not sure whether RMS or average values are used to calculate power in this case?.Maybe void could shed some light on this

Brad

i suggest you go and dump your testing results from "another" project onto a thread started by Void, where he's sharing with us all an OU-related project he's made...

Hi NPHope you dont mind me posting this here,but it is in regards to some flyback testing i have been doing on a coil for another project.

This coil differs from most,as it has a PM for the core,and is giving some very interesting results.

The measurements taken below do not include the power dissipated by the LED,but only the power flowing into C1 from the source,and then the power flowing out of C1 into the coil.

The calculated power from C1 is only calculating the power delivered by C1 to the coil when the transistor switches on-->duty cycle is 5%.This is far greater than the power being delivered to C1 by the source.

So there is more power flowing through the coil,than there is being delivered by the source.This means that the magnetic field being built by the coil is far greater than that that could be built by the supplied power from the source. And as i stated above,this is not including the power being dissipated by the LED.

I am not sure whether RMS or average values are used to calculate power in this case?.Maybe void could shed some light on this.

Brad

Hi Brad. Average power is calculated using RMS values for the voltage and current, however it is not that straightforward. Coils and capacitors produce reactive currents which are out of phase with the voltage across them. This is sometimes referred to as 'reactive power' but it is not really power. When you are looking at efficiency of circuits you are only concerned with real power, which is power consumption that depletes energy in a power source, or power consumption in a load that consumes power, such as resistors and bulbs. Power calculations for the purpose of determining circuit efficiency applies to the input power from your power source and the output power for real power consuming loads.Looking at current flowing in coils and capacitors does not tell you about the efficiency of the circuit. That is an interesting setup with the coil around a magnet core however. All the best...

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When the current is interrupted, the magnetic field is removed from the Neo magnet, an (MCE) material. This causes the electron spins to become random and the material cools.

"All magnetic materials exhibit MCE, although the intensity of this effect depends on the properties of each material. Generally, for a simple ferromagnetic material near its Curie temperature, when a magnetic field is applied, the spins tend to align parallel to the magnetic field, which lowers the magnetic entropy. To compensate for the loss in the magnetic entropy in an adiabatic (isentropic) process, the temperature of the material increases. When the magnetic field is removed, the spins tend to become random which increases the magnetic entropy and the material cools".

That's all they tell us in refrigeration science. The problem for them is that when the magnetic caloric material begins to work to re-polarize it's domains, it generates electrical power. This is an unwanted byproduct they simply run into an Earth ground. Tinman is running a D.C. motor with MCE waste current.

the yellow curve is the pulse sent by the controller to build up the magnetic field of the core (magnetization phase), the blue curve is the pulse measured across the output coil connected to a lamp as a load.

Look at the blue curve, the first part (negative curve) is the magnetization phase of the core (building up of the magnetic energy), you may notice some Barkhausen effect bumps. The second part (positive curve) is the demagnetization phase of the core. The excess free energy is tapped during the demagnetization process and not during the magnetization process due to the blocking diode connected at the output coil. To get more free energy from the 2SGen device, the clock pulse must be as short as possible (during the magnetization process). The process of free energy generation from magnetization/demagnetization of a ferromagnetic core has been fully explained in the Nikolay E. Zaev paper "Ferrites and Ferromagnetics Free Energy Generation" published in New Energy Technologies Issue #5 Sept-Oct 2002.