Confidant spoiler: In order to maximize your playtime, you're obliged to make use of (and most of the time pay for) her 'services' so that you can do activities after a Mementos/dungeon run. So right away the relationship feels exploitative

Story spoiler: And even after the school is roiling from the Kamoshida scandal, another teacher at the same school appears unable to resist the temptation of her student's romantic overtures. In a game with toilet demons in a metaverse, that's stretching my suspension of disbelief.

I feel that instead of writing a better character with more believable motivations they went the 'fuck it fanservice > all' route and the MC is never seriously challenged on the decisions made with that route. This is probably a fair accusation to lob at the franchise as a whole, I just feel it's a particular weakness in this route.

Confidant spoiler: In order to maximize your playtime, you're obliged to make use of (and most of the time pay for) her 'services' so that you can do activities after a Mementos/dungeon run. So right away the relationship feels exploitative

Story spoiler: And even after the school is roiling from the Kamoshida scandal, another teacher at the same school appears unable to resist the temptation of her student's romantic overtures. In a game with toilet demons in a metaverse, that's stretching my suspension of disbelief.

I feel that instead of writing a better character with more believable motivations they went the 'fuck it fanservice > all' route and the MC is never seriously challenged on the decisions made with that route. This is probably a fair accusation to lob at the franchise as a whole, I just feel it's a particular weakness in this route.

This was kinda along the lines of some thoughts I had regarding this link as well. Also curious to see the how/what exactly they address with the english translation.

Personally, probably going Makoto 1st playthrough (if her English VA doesn't kill it for me), then probably Tae second time around or as a backup for 1st time.

Confidant spoiler: In order to maximize your playtime, you're obliged to make use of (and most of the time pay for) her 'services' so that you can do activities after a Mementos/dungeon run. So right away the relationship feels exploitative

Well, some things do feel a little weird no matter what. But the way I saw the main chunk of it was that I felt really sorry for her being in that position, and I'd rather hire her for a shift and help her with her money problem, than have some other guy hire her for that shift who won't be looking to be so innocent with her time.

I do agree, though, that there's a lot more that could have been done with the relationship in terms of telling a better story. But, I also thought the path was strangely sweet, if you didn't push to make it creepy.

I thought I was going to 100% be on the Makoto train when she was first revealed, but I was legit surprised how much I ended up liking the protagonist's dynamic with Ann from what I saw of import impressions and clips. Well, I was going to do two playthroughs anyway...

Also, Atlus, not being able to romance Yusuke is cruel enough, but having him voiced by Matthew Mercer is extra cruel. Drive the knife in deeper, why don't you.

Tae : Excellent start , Great middle , good ending , Girlfriend of the year , Top 3 waifuHifumi : Great start , superb middle , great ending , I'm not worthy of being your boyfriend , Should have been part of the thieves gang , Top 3 waifu

Tae : Excellent start , Great middle , good ending , Girlfriend of the year , Top 3 waifuHifumi : Great start , superb middle , great ending , I'm not worthy of being your boyfriend , Should have been part of the thieves gang , Top 3 waifu

Tae : Excellent start , Great middle , good ending , Girlfriend of the year , Top 3 waifuHifumi : Great start , superb middle , great ending , I'm not worthy of being your boyfriend , Should have been part of the thieves gang , Top 3 waifu

What made you dislike Anne and like Tae that much? From everything I've heard Anne is among the more fulfilling romances. In fact, I haven't seen shit of Tae's romance. Is it well developed or does it seem like an after thought by the writers? Loads of events?

I ask because Tae was definitely the one I was interested in the most on the first reveal, but everything I've heard is that she largely uses you as a test subject for her medicines

I'm interested in this game, but did they really need to keep the harem aspect?
That type of masculine culture is utterly revolting.

The main character is really cute, and yet Atlus neglected to feature homosexual relationships in their games yet again...

It's infuriating because we as Westerners can criticize it and campaign up and down but it won't make a difference to a game meant for Japanese people. Whatever. It's going to get brushed under the rug because "LOL Japan".

Tae : Excellent start , Great middle , good ending , Girlfriend of the year , Top 3 waifuHifumi : Great start , superb middle , great ending , I'm not worthy of being your boyfriend , Should have been part of the thieves gang , Top 3 waifu

Am I misreading this or are you not allowed to speak of the social links in the OT?

More like the second you talk about your choice of romance the conversation tends to devolve and/or somebody immediately starts crying that they can't discuss the game without it going into waifu talk. So better to keep it separated so we can have our time.

More like the second you talk about your choice of romance the conversation tends to devolve and/or somebody immediately starts crying that they can't discuss the game without it going into waifu talk. So better to keep it separated so we can have our time.

Hmm, can we have another OT explicitly for people who just want to complain about romance talk?