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I'm pretty sure Hayden had James mocked to us in the first at one point. I don't remember anybody else saying James as our first round pick though CK, and one other guy said taking a true RT made sense if we went O-line in the first and mentioned James and Moses as the two that fit. Might have been a few that had us with Billy Turner in the third or fourth, but I don't specifically recall.

I wrote that this franchise needs to have higher aspirations than Billy Turner.

Not surprisingly, our aspirations were exactly Billy Turner.

It doesn't matter if Turner pans out. Understand that. The mindset that produces a Billy Turner early in the third round is going to get you beat.

The best summary I saw of our draft was that it's scary to think that Taylor Lewan went only eight spots higher than JuWaun James. Exactly. We've done that for years, rationalizing players in spots they don't belong.

I wrote that this franchise needs to have higher aspirations than Billy Turner.

Not surprisingly, our aspirations were exactly Billy Turner.

It doesn't matter if Turner pans out. Understand that. The mindset that produces a Billy Turner early in the third round is going to get you beat.

The best summary I saw of our draft was that it's scary to think that Taylor Lewan went only eight spots higher than JuWaun James. Exactly. We've done that for years, rationalizing players in spots they don't belong.

Disagree with part of your post mate. New regime, and what we did this year is actually draft players in position of need and position that can help our QB, which is something that hasn't always happened. The fact that Lewan went at 11 is irrelevant to where we picked, because it was quite obvious that if we didn't trade up for Martin, then no way were we texting up for Lewan.

James is a RT. Not a guard. We needed a RT, and if he was valued at late 1st or early 2nd, then so be it. He will help this team and help RT. Landry is a freakish WR. To me, he is OJ part 2, and we need that. Hartline is a terrific No 2' but I think that Landry will be a better all round WR than anyone on the team in 2 seasons time.

Turner I think was a bit of a reach as well, but could well be one of the better players we have drafted in some time. The more I see of this draft, the more I read, the better I feel.

I RESPECT EVERYONES POINT OF VIEW & OPINION....REGARDLESS OF HOW WRONG THEY ARE

Disagree with part of your post mate. New regime, and what we did this year is actually draft players in position of need and position that can help our QB, which is something that hasn't always happened. The fact that Lewan went at 11 is irrelevant to where we picked, because it was quite obvious that if we didn't trade up for Martin, then no way were we texting up for Lewan.

James is a RT. Not a guard. We needed a RT, and if he was valued at late 1st or early 2nd, then so be it. He will help this team and help RT. Landry is a freakish WR. To me, he is OJ part 2, and we need that. Hartline is a terrific No 2' but I think that Landry will be a better all round WR than anyone on the team in 2 seasons time.

Turner I think was a bit of a reach as well, but could well be one of the better players we have drafted in some time. The more I see of this draft, the more I read, the better I feel.

I have higher aspirations on Landry than you do and certainly hope he is much more than OJ McDuffie was.

Jay Fiedler can take his'n and lose to your'n.....or take your'n and lose to his'n.

I had Turner and Tripp - even a blind pig can sniff out a couple of truffles. (I have also put my infatuation with XSF behind me and moved on).
However, there is a VIP member who got 3. (maybe it's joe)