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This was a custom saddle for customer in Florida. She wanted the turbo style saddle with the design of the round back race. I chose to use the standard seam placement on the turbo saddle while creating a welt style connection on the tail instead of the baseball stitch I normally do. The seam worked really good and looks really nice. It took forever to figure out but now I'm going to be offering this saddle with the Velo made Turbo style saddle I currently have in stock.