Four guys have been going on the same fishing trip for many years.Two days before the group is to leave, Ron's wife puts her foot down and tells him he isn't going.Ron's mates are very upset that he can't go, but what can they do.

Two days later the three mates get to the camping site only to find Ron sitting there with a tent set up, firewood gathered, and dinner cooking on the fire."shiat Ron, how long you been here? How did you talk your missus into letting you go ?"

"Well, I've been here since last night. After dinner at home yesterday evening, I was sitting in my chair and my wife came up behind me and put her hands over my eyes and said, 'Guess who ?'"I pulled her hands off, and she was wearing sexy brand new lingerie. She said had been reading 'Fifty Shades of Gray' and she had a devilish look in her eyes!!!She took my hand and led me to our bedroom. The room had candles and rose petals all over.On the bed she had handcuffs, and ropes !She told me to tie her up and cuff her to the bed, so I did.

"We'll say, 'How well do you know this person? Why are you suddenly sending this amount of money? How did you meet this person?' " Garner says. "People get really upset. You can tell by their reaction to the questions how legitimate the transaction is."

"Scammers lurk on online dating sites or grief forums, looking . . . " There are grief forums? Online? I thought they were called "Bars" and Cocktail Lounges and One Nighters, not forums.Sheesh, I don't get it. How do you drink the Scotch and keyboard? I'd be all " And i mIssss 'em lki so fargin cush thlkj;o 89u[ [9p8 (thump) jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj"It's painfully obvious that I am seriously untalented - or I can drink more than anyone in the free world - take your pick.

In other news, seriously? Moneygram does that? How cool is that. Romney could take humanity lessons from Moneygram.

kiwimoogle84:Find the gamer chick with a college degree who is maybe carrying 20 extra pounds. I promise, you'll be infinitely happier than with a supermodel, and the sex will be a thousand times better.

kiwimoogle84:Find the gamer chick with a college degree who is maybe carrying 20 extra pounds. I promise, you'll be infinitely happier than with a supermodel, and the sex will be a thousand times better.

Marcintosh:In other news, seriously? Moneygram does that? How cool is that. Romney could take humanity lessons from Moneygram.

To a degree they will. On the other side, facilitating scams makes Moneygram, Western Union, etc a whole bucket of cash, so I'm a little dubious how much interference they run.

Outside of simply refusing the business, though, no amount of warning will help in some circumstances. I have a relative who not only goes for these scams, but does so repeatedly. When the intervention and the letter from the State Department don't work, and you can't get a protective custody order, eventually you admit that he prefers fantasyland to reality. The family has pretty much walked away at this point.

genepool lifeboat:kiwimoogle84: Find the gamer chick with a college degree who is maybe carrying 20 extra pounds. I promise, you'll be infinitely happier than with a supermodel, and the sex will be a thousand times better.

This, so much.

/gamer family

Fiiiiiiiiiiine, you can have the gamer chick with 20 extra pounds and I'll reluctantly jump on that supermodel grenade. You owe me.

kiwimoogle84:umad: kiwimoogle84: And to serve as a beacon of hope- not all is lost, dudes.

The woman being awesome does not change the fact that marriage is a scam. A man still isn't getting anything out of it other than risk*.

*Only applies to men with their shiat together. Poor guys knock yourselves out.

A man doesn't get a life companion, homecooked meals, activity partner, and consistent sex? Not to mention someone to lean on when times are rough and someone to build them up?

Dear god, you're right. Marriage is AWFUL for men.

I know that we can't generalize, but women viewing marriage as the end goal rather than the beginning of a new life together seems to be quite a thing in the U.S. Obviously, it would behoove us to avoid these types of women at all costs, but sometimes, inexplicably, a "switch" flips and you can't always see that coming.

Note that I'm not saying "all marriage is bad", because it's not, but I understand how some men might not want anything to do with it whatsoever.