I'll even make a bold prediction of where they'll go in SF - Portrero Hill (find the most crookedest street - na uh - not Lombard), a task around the SF Zoo, and then final run somewhere in the Presidio.

I don't think they will visit Denmark or Vietnam because they just visited them in TAR19.

I'll even make a bold prediction of where they'll go in SF - Portrero Hill (find the most crookedest street - na uh - not Lombard), a task around the SF Zoo, and then final run somewhere in the Presidio.

I don't think they will visit Denmark or Vietnam because they just visited them in TAR19.

Vietnam was last visited in S15. Whenever Vietnam has been visited it has been a double leg. With Laos being heavily speculated, maybe a first pitstop somewhere in Asia followed by double legs in Vietnam and then Laos? However that is the same thing as S15, with Cambodia being replaced by Laos.

"Our fans are pretty good. They don't give away too much. Sometimes people love dropping spoilers, but our fans are good. They tend to do it in such a way that doesn't ruin it for fans who don't want to know."--Phil Keoghan

Hmmm. I'm usually pretty good at guessing the types of countries we'll see.

We just had three legs in South America, so we're not headed back there this season. If the Americas are done, it'll more likely be a single penultimate leg somewhere in Central America or the Caribbean. I'd hope for El Salvador, but I think Costa Rica is more likely.

Central/Western Europe really needs a break - Austria and Germany have both had a full leg and a train transfer in the past three seasons, and in the past five we've also had the three central Scandinavian countries, the Netherlands, Belgium, Lichtenstein, Switzerland, Italy, France, and the UK. PIIGS is still unlikely, but it's possible they'll throw someone a bone and help out a struggling country's tourism industry. I'd still think we're more likely to get eastern Europe or the Balkans though. If we get PIIGS, it'll be two legs in Spain and Portugal. If we get eastern Europe, I'd go with Hungary again, or Slovenia and Slovakia. If we get the Balkans, it'll be Serbia. Outside chances for Bulgaria, Turkey, and Malta.

Africa? Tanzania's the first country to get a third official visit, and only Morocco and South Africa even have two. South Africa's probably the more likely of the two to get a repeat visit, but if we get another new country I'd be looking at Cameroon or Angola. We do need to hit that whole central African region eventually.

The Middle East is pretty much out of consideration thanks to the Arab Spring. Possibly Jordan, but I doubt it.

We did India last season, we've done Bangladesh fairly recently, Pakistan's not happening any time soon, and Nepal's still unsafe. Sri Lanka is the closest we'll get to a central Asian country.

In southeastern Asia, we just went to Indonesia and Thailand two seasons ago, and Cambodia, Vietnam, Malaysia, and Singapore have also been done not that long ago. Of the six Vietnam is most likely, although I'd prefer Malaysia. The only new countries in the region would be Brunei (which doesn't allow foreign TV crews), Burma (which would be a nightmare from a security perspective), and Laos.

Eastern Asia is where it gets a bit harder. As the producers seem to love the idea of showcasing the stereotypical "Oriental" countries, we've done at least one of Japan, China (including Hong Kong), and Taiwan in eleven of the past twelve seasons. Japan was last season and Taiwan was the season before, which means it's China's turn again if we want to make it twelve out of thirteen. Plus, Taiwan's too small to justify two visits in three seasons, and they wouldn't have done the Hiroshima trip if they'd been planning to return to Japan this season. If we don't, the southern part of South Korea is a distinct possibility.

Oceania, Oceania, Oceania. I'm still holding out for the southern part of Australia (Melbourne!), but given the show's "Leg 1: Big city. Leg 2: OUTBACK ADVENTURE." usage of Australia in all four previous visits, it's not likely. If Australia turns up, I'd go with Adelaide and Alice Springs. It's certainly time for New Zealand again though, and preferably without Auckland for once. The Pacific islands are likely to be ignored again, but since there didn't seem to be a reason for the charter flights to Ngorongoro Crater last season (as they were able to drive to Mto Wa Mbu, which we know from TAR5 is within driving distance of the Kilimanjaro Airport), it's a very remote chance they might have done it to prepare us for more charter flights in future.

With the finish line, we've done the southeastern US twice recently and California twice before that, so it should be somewhere in the north or centre of the country. I'd hope for New Orleans, but I'd bet on somewhere in the Midwest.

In summary, I'd predict:1: Los Angeles to Portugal2: Portugal to Spain3: Spain to Hungary4: Hungary5: Hungary to Cameroon6: Cameroon7: Cameroon to South Africa8: South Africa to New Zealand9: New Zealand to Tonga10: Tonga to South Korea11: South Korea to Costa Rica12: Costa Rica to Minneapolis

I think that when tarfly said the three central Scandinavian countries, he meant Denmark, Norway, and Sweden.

I want to speculate on the teams a little more because everyone else is focusing on the countries. I think we'll have a parent-child team, possibly two. A parent-child team has still never won the race, and WRP might want to try to break that "curse" like they did in TAR17 when they had 4 F/F teams. I think we'll also get at least one team with that "interesting occupation" appeal (maybe something like lumberjacks, or even actual kindergarten teachers ), and I think we'll get at least one openly gay racer, maybe even a gay couple, because of gay rights being so prevalent in American news recently.

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Okay, well I also think that this coming race will also be a 3 continent race - Africa and South America are due for a rest after the past few seasons. This being said, to make the race interesting by not have 1 legs in north america (usa for the last leg), i think that they will definately explore either Canada or Mexico for the first or penultimate leg. I still think canada deserves a visit - Its an amazing place and would be easy to get to. Using canada would also enable a new starting/finishing leg because it is accesible by so many US airports.

Besides that I think that China will get a couple of legs, and I also think that Sri Lanka will get a visit (it was safe for TAR Aus). Europe will see visits to monte carlo, and 3 of either france, spain, iceland or portugal. UAEwill also get another visit.

Hmmm. I'm usually pretty good at guessing the types of countries we'll see.

We just had three legs in South America, so we're not headed back there this season. If the Americas are done, it'll more likely be a single penultimate leg somewhere in Central America or the Caribbean. I'd hope for El Salvador, but I think Costa Rica is more likely.

Central/Western Europe really needs a break - Austria and Germany have both had a full leg and a train transfer in the past three seasons, and in the past five we've also had the three central Scandinavian countries, the Netherlands, Belgium, Lichtenstein, Switzerland, Italy, France, and the UK. PIIGS is still unlikely, but it's possible they'll throw someone a bone and help out a struggling country's tourism industry. I'd still think we're more likely to get eastern Europe or the Balkans though. If we get PIIGS, it'll be two legs in Spain and Portugal. If we get eastern Europe, I'd go with Hungary again, or Slovenia and Slovakia. If we get the Balkans, it'll be Serbia. Outside chances for Bulgaria, Turkey, and Malta.

Africa? Tanzania's the first country to get a third official visit, and only Morocco and South Africa even have two. South Africa's probably the more likely of the two to get a repeat visit, but if we get another new country I'd be looking at Cameroon or Angola. We do need to hit that whole central African region eventually.

The Middle East is pretty much out of consideration thanks to the Arab Spring. Possibly Jordan, but I doubt it.

We did India last season, we've done Bangladesh fairly recently, Pakistan's not happening any time soon, and Nepal's still unsafe. Sri Lanka is the closest we'll get to a central Asian country.

In southeastern Asia, we just went to Indonesia and Thailand two seasons ago, and Cambodia, Vietnam, Malaysia, and Singapore have also been done not that long ago. Of the six Vietnam is most likely, although I'd prefer Malaysia. The only new countries in the region would be Brunei (which doesn't allow foreign TV crews), Burma (which would be a nightmare from a security perspective), and Laos.

Eastern Asia is where it gets a bit harder. As the producers seem to love the idea of showcasing the stereotypical "Oriental" countries, we've done at least one of Japan, China (including Hong Kong), and Taiwan in eleven of the past twelve seasons. Japan was last season and Taiwan was the season before, which means it's China's turn again if we want to make it twelve out of thirteen. Plus, Taiwan's too small to justify two visits in three seasons, and they wouldn't have done the Hiroshima trip if they'd been planning to return to Japan this season. If we don't, the southern part of South Korea is a distinct possibility.

Oceania, Oceania, Oceania. I'm still holding out for the southern part of Australia (Melbourne!), but given the show's "Leg 1: Big city. Leg 2: OUTBACK ADVENTURE." usage of Australia in all four previous visits, it's not likely. If Australia turns up, I'd go with Adelaide and Alice Springs. It's certainly time for New Zealand again though, and preferably without Auckland for once. The Pacific islands are likely to be ignored again, but since there didn't seem to be a reason for the charter flights to Ngorongoro Crater last season (as they were able to drive to Mto Wa Mbu, which we know from TAR5 is within driving distance of the Kilimanjaro Airport), it's a very remote chance they might have done it to prepare us for more charter flights in future.

With the finish line, we've done the southeastern US twice recently and California twice before that, so it should be somewhere in the north or centre of the country. I'd hope for New Orleans, but I'd bet on somewhere in the Midwest.

In summary, I'd predict:1: Los Angeles to Portugal2: Portugal to Spain3: Spain to Hungary4: Hungary5: Hungary to Cameroon6: Cameroon7: Cameroon to South Africa8: South Africa to New Zealand9: New Zealand to Tonga10: Tonga to South Korea11: South Korea to Costa Rica12: Costa Rica to Minneapolis

You are very good at guessing indeed!What you have predicted so far looks pretty goodDo you think there's a chance we might see a north-eastern city?

In the US? Outside chance. New York would be spoiled to DEATH, and Boston was a start line recently (though that doesn't stop the LA starts), so let's exclude them both. Although other cities are big enough, the only ones recognisable enough - and they like to pick places known internationally as well - would be Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and DC.

The other big possibility is Texas. Considering all we've gotten in exchange for all those teams is the maze task in TAR5, it seems like it really should turn up sometime soon.

Really, I think the final city is a tossup at this point between Minneapolis/St. Paul, Detroit, Houston, and St. Louis.

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I think this race is an only three continents race too, for obvious reasons that have been said earlier. The only other continent that I could see visited, would be Australia or Northern Africa (not that that is a country but whatever). With that said, there are a few countries from Europe and Asia that have been visited in the past two seasons:

DenmarkBelgiumIndonesiaThailandTaiwanGermanyItalyIndiaJapanAzerbaijan

Then we have some countries that are not allowed to be visited:PhillipinesMexicoLebanonIsrael

And some countries that have been visited quite recently and aren't a China or India (who are likely to be visited every 2/3 seasons):SwitzerlandAustriaNorwaySwedenLiechtensteinBangladeshOman

And then we have some countries that host a big sport event, which would cause lots of spoilers:UkrainePolandEngland (just England)

Which would leave us with these European countries (in the event of a three continent race)Albania (scrapping, reason below)Andorra Armenia (I'm going to scrap this one, since Azerbaijan just has been visited)Belarus (scrapping, reason below)BosniaBulgariaCroatia (scrapping, reason below)CyprusCzech Republic (scrapping, reason below)Estonia (I'm going to scrap this one, since I think they would visit Latvia earlier)Finland (I'm going to scrap this one, since Finland is much prettier in the winter)FranceGeorgia (I'm going to scrap this one, since Azerbaijan just has been visitedGreeceHungaryIcelandIrelandKazakhstanLatviaLithuania (I'm going to scrap this one, since Latvia is more likely to be visited)LuxembourgMacedoniaMaltaMoldova (scrapping, reason below)MonacoMontenegro (scrapping, reason below)NetherlandsPortugalRomania (scrapping, reason below)RussiaSan Marino (I'm going to scrap this one)ScotlandSerbiaSlovakia (scrapping, reason below)SloveniaSpainTurkey

Of those countries; (1) I think these are not due for a revisit (have seen too much of the country already), or (2) I don't think TAR will visit them (cause of new country that isn't that popular)Albania (2)Belarus (2)Croatia (1)Czech Republic (1)Moldova (2)Montenegro (2)Romania (1)Slovakia (2)Kuwait (1)Kyrgyzystan (2)Mongolia (1)Tadzjistan (2)Turkmenistan (2)Vietnam (1)

These are the countries, I think, can be visited. Now I'm going to make a race with the following guidelines:- At maximum three new countries- Not more than 5 countries per continent- Three countries with two legs- One leg in Carribean- One leg in Middle East- Two countries that have been visited quite a few times.- An Europe start (we haven't had it since TAR17)

I think this race is an only three continents race too, for obvious reasons that have been said earlier. The only other continent that I could see visited, would be Australia or Northern Africa (not that that is a country but whatever). With that said, there are a few countries from Europe and Asia that have been visited in the past two seasons:

DenmarkBelgiumIndonesiaThailandTaiwanGermanyItalyIndiaJapanAzerbaijan

Then we have some countries that are not allowed to be visited:PhillipinesMexicoLebanonIsrael

And some countries that have been visited quite recently and aren't a China or India (who are likely to be visited every 2/3 seasons):SwitzerlandAustriaNorwaySwedenLiechtensteinBangladeshOman

And then we have some countries that host a big sport event, which would cause lots of spoilers:UkrainePolandEngland (just England)

Which would leave us with these European countries (in the event of a three continent race)Albania (scrapping, reason below)Andorra Armenia (I'm going to scrap this one, since Azerbaijan just has been visited)Belarus (scrapping, reason below)BosniaBulgariaCroatia (scrapping, reason below)CyprusCzech Republic (scrapping, reason below)Estonia (I'm going to scrap this one, since I think they would visit Latvia earlier)Finland (I'm going to scrap this one, since Finland is much prettier in the winter)FranceGeorgia (I'm going to scrap this one, since Azerbaijan just has been visitedGreeceHungaryIcelandIrelandKazakhstanLatviaLithuania (I'm going to scrap this one, since Latvia is more likely to be visited)LuxembourgMacedoniaMaltaMoldova (scrapping, reason below)MonacoMontenegro (scrapping, reason below)NetherlandsPortugalRomania (scrapping, reason below)RussiaSan Marino (I'm going to scrap this one)ScotlandSerbiaSlovakia (scrapping, reason below)SloveniaSpainTurkey

Of those countries; (1) I think these are not due for a revisit (have seen too much of the country already), or (2) I don't think TAR will visit them (cause of new country that isn't that popular)Albania (2)Belarus (2)Croatia (1)Czech Republic (1)Moldova (2)Montenegro (2)Romania (1)Slovakia (2)Kuwait (1)Kyrgyzystan (2)Mongolia (1)Tadzjistan (2)Turkmenistan (2)Vietnam (1)

These are the countries, I think, can be visited. Now I'm going to make a race with the following guidelines:- At maximum three new countries- Not more than 5 countries per continent- Three countries with two legs- One leg in Carribean- One leg in Middle East- Two countries that have been visited quite a few times.- An Europe start (we haven't had it since TAR17)

I see a few things wrong with this list here-First: Mexico, Israel, and Philippines are allowed to be visited because only Northern Mexico is dangerous, Israel hosted TARAus1 a year ago and Philippines have hosted previous foreign races like TARAus2.Second: Don't rule out Croatia and Finland, TAR10 never had a pit stop in Finland only a TBC and TAR12 only visted Dubrovnik, Zagreb should deserve a visit. Also Kyrgyzstan, Vietnam, and Brunei shoudn't ruled out (where does it say Brunei doesn't allow camera crews). Besides Brazil or one of the Pacific Island nations like Fiji, Samoa, or Palau deserve a visit in Brazil's case a revisit.

"Our fans are pretty good. They don't give away too much. Sometimes people love dropping spoilers, but our fans are good. They tend to do it in such a way that doesn't ruin it for fans who don't want to know."--Phil Keoghan

This is my own opinion.. I think those countries won't be visited. But feel free to give your opinion.

From my perspective, including Israel and The Philippines in the "no visit" list of countries makes no sense. Israel has had two seasons of TAR itself and was just visited last season by TARAu. The Philippines are going to air their own version of TAR this year, and USA & Australian versions have recently been there. In addition, CBS just finished filming the next season of Survivor in The Philippines.

Also, I think Vietnam could be a distinct possibility. Many other versions of TAR have visited there in their last season.