I am about to fo to a stakeout at one of my parents rental properties. We have little bastard kids (14-16 year old) trespassing and damaging property.

Can I legally detain one of them before calling the cops? I have one pair of cuffs and am trained in using them (military police). I don't plan on drawing a gun or anything stupid like that. I will use the use of force model.

Originally posted by Keith_J:Then think how hard it would be jerking off with half a hand. And then think about how hard it would be to jerk off blind with half a hand in prison. You will be someone's bitch.

Originally Posted By Lomshek:I hope that's a joke. I can only imagine the fun of explaining to the kids parents why you cuffed them and then justifying it to the judge.

Parents are likely meth abusing scum.

Citizens arrests are legal if a crime is commited in your presence. You CAN physicaly detain someone...regardless of age. Just make sure you can PROVE they were committing the crime....thats the kicker...

Originally Posted By Lomshek:I hope that's a joke. I can only imagine the fun of explaining to the kids parents why you cuffed them and then justifying it to the judge.

Parents are likely meth abusing scum.

Citizens arrests are legal if a crime is commited in your presence. You CAN physicaly detain someone...regardless of age. Just make sure you can PROVE they were committing the crime....thats the kicker...

Trespass is civil. Not a crime. You CANNOT detain. Even LE cant detain purely for trespass. eta: Unless a warning has been previously issued.

Originally Posted By Lomshek:I hope that's a joke. I can only imagine the fun of explaining to the kids parents why you cuffed them and then justifying it to the judge.

Parents are likely meth abusing scum.

Citizens arrests are legal if a crime is commited in your presence. You CAN physicaly detain someone...regardless of age. Just make sure you can PROVE they were committing the crime....thats the kicker...

Trespass is civil. Not a crime. You CANNOT detain. Even LE cant detain purely for trespass.

Varies by state. It's a crime here.

"I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them." -John Wayne

Originally Posted By Lomshek:I hope that's a joke. I can only imagine the fun of explaining to the kids parents why you cuffed them and then justifying it to the judge.

Parents are likely meth abusing scum.

Citizens arrests are legal if a crime is commited in your presence. You CAN physicaly detain someone...regardless of age. Just make sure you can PROVE they were committing the crime....thats the kicker...

Originally Posted By Molotov357:
I am about to fo to a stakeout at one of my parents rental properties. We have little bastard kids (14-16 year old) trespassing and damaging property.

Can I legally detain one of them before calling the cops? I have one pair of cuffs and am trained in using them (military police). I don't plan on drawing a gun or anything stupid like that. I will use the use of force model.

Castle Doctrine.

I am the sharp stick up the Kenyan's ass. I am the reason the Wookie is ALWAYS on the rag. I cause Reid, Schumer and Franks to sleep with a night light. I am CPT_KIRKS! And...I need a beer.

Trespass is one thing... Breaking and Entering is something else entirely.

"To my mind it is wholly irresponsible to go into the world incapable of preventing violence, injury, crime, and death. How feeble is the mindset to accept defenselessness. How unnatural. How cheap. How cowardly. How pathetic." --Ted Nugent

Originally Posted By Molotov357:
I am about to fo to a stakeout at one of my parents rental properties. We have little bastard kids (14-16 year old) trespassing and damaging property.

Can I legally detain one of them before calling the cops? I have one pair of cuffs and am trained in using them (military police). I don't plan on drawing a gun or anything stupid like that. I will use the use of force model.

Originally Posted By Molotov357:
I am about to fo to a stakeout at one of my parents rental properties. We have little bastard kids (14-16 year old) trespassing and damaging property.

Can I legally detain one of them before calling the cops? I have one pair of cuffs and am trained in using them (military police). I don't plan on drawing a gun or anything stupid like that. I will use the use of force model.

You'd have to be crazy to do that.

Seriously, you'll be the one in jail, not the kid.

"This is an environment of welcoming, and... you should just get the hell out of here!"- Michael Scott

If you are a private citizen, do not attempt to forcibly detain anyone, except under the most extreme circumstances.
Hold them at gunpoint but if they run, they run.
Also, I would not advise you to attempt to handcuff someone by yourself, for safety reasons.

Post contains personal opinion only and does represent information released in official capacity."I did not 'get my information from the TV'. I was taught this in a middle school Social Studies class" ~ Sig_Prude on police work

Originally Posted By Ghost013:I think instead of getting cops involved Id get a few friends together and get all dressed up like some crazy serial killers and chase them around scaring the living shit out of them

Originally Posted By Ghost013:I think instead of getting cops involved Id get a few friends together and get all dressed up like some crazy serial killers and chase them around scaring the living shit out of them

Originally Posted By Lomshek:
I hope that's a joke. I can only imagine the fun of explaining to the kids parents why you cuffed them and then justifying it to the judge.

Parents are likely meth abusing scum.

Citizens arrests are legal if a crime is commited in your presence. You CAN physicaly detain someone...regardless of age. Just make sure you can PROVE they were committing the crime....thats the kicker...

Trespass is civil. Not a crime. You CANNOT detain. Even LE cant detain purely for trespass.

Varies by state. It's a crime here.

Force after dark? Doesn't Texas law state the dusk to dawn laws? Detention in Texas may not be necessary.

Originally Posted By Ghost013:I think instead of getting cops involved Id get a few friends together and get all dressed up like some crazy serial killers and chase them around scaring the living shit out of them

Do it naked....

Covered in Crisco....

"Grand kids are the best thing that can happen to a guy. They come along at just the right time in life to soften the bitter bite of old age." ~ m1awolf

Originally Posted By Molotov357:
I am about to fo to a stakeout at one of my parents rental properties. We have little bastard kids (14-16 year old) trespassing and damaging property.

Can I legally detain one of them before calling the cops? I have one pair of cuffs and am trained in using them (military police). I don't plan on drawing a gun or anything stupid like that. I will use the use of force model.

You can ask them to do anything you'd like, and depending on the way that you ask they just might do it.

How about you lighten up and have a cup of shut the fuck up? -TNROBOCOP

Then at least you have proof the kids were on the property and had been told to leave and not come back, they were tresspassing.

"To my mind it is wholly irresponsible to go into the world incapable of preventing violence, injury, crime, and death. How feeble is the mindset to accept defenselessness. How unnatural. How cheap. How cowardly. How pathetic." --Ted Nugent

pretty sure you could tell them to stay where they were, and if you did it in a commanding voice and with a bright light kids might stay
dont try and physically stop them...

Most states call it False Imprisonment. A unlawful detention of the person of another, for any length of time, whereby such person is deprived of his personal liberty.

If you try to take them anywhere THEN it's called Kidnapping.if any person, without lawful authority, forcibly seizes and confines another, or inveigles or kidnaps another, with intent, either:

■To cause such other person to be confined or imprisoned in this state against the will of the other person; or
■To cause such other person to be sent out of this state against the will of the other person; or
■To cause such person to be sold as a slave, or in any way held to service against the will of such person,
Such person shall be guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment in the custody of the Department of Corrections for a term not exceeding twenty years.

The proud American will go down into Obama's slavery with out a fight, beating his chest and proclaiming to the world, how free he really is. The world will only snicker. - Pravda