pollsthathave been taken since the debate are looking a little bit betterforromneysowe color those sort of a pink. but ohio still looking good for the real estate, wisconsin looking good and even in some of these polls virginia is looking good for him storks what we have seen, at least at the moment in this snap hot is a little bit of a breakdown in what was before the debate a kind of steady success for the president and all of the ten or so battleground states. >> rose: so right now we are waiting right now now for the next debate to where the campaign is. >> we are wait gog the next debate but have early voting going on and that's why the this vice presidential debate matters, both democrats and republicans are working the base hard but if you have dispirited people they won't muscle it up and do the early vote, i think if biden injects some energy in the democrats that will help with the votes being cast right now in the important battle ground states. >> rose: i raised this question earlier do we expect to see more of the quote, moderate romney in this campaign? >> mark halper