Mayhem is the bigger stronger guy. i just dont see Jacare getting him in a position where he will be able to get a submission. i know dude has won all his fights by submission, but most those guys i haven't heard of.

of course i do jackoff, am i wrong that most of the guys he's fought are lesser known. what i'm saying is mayhem is no slouch.

Ooooh jackoff, damn..

It's quite obvious you don't, you said that Mayhem is stronger than Jacare.. What is that supposed to mean? That he would out-grapple him? Jacare has out grappled guys like Matt Lindland, Demian Maia, Ryan Gracie and Marcelo Garcia... Mayhem would not be a problem.

EDIT: I'm not saying Mayhem won't win, i'm saying he is not stronger and submitting him won't be much of a problem if/when it goes to the ground.

I honest to god flipped a coin to decide my pick for Mayhem vs. Jacare, that's how hard it was for me to decide. Heads - Jacare and Tails - Mayhem. It landed tails. Regardless of the opponent I was picking The Donger because he's my pick in this tournament, whether it's rational or not. I'm riding the Dong-train all the way to glory! ... or until it derails.

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It's quite obvious you don't, you said that Mayhem is stronger than Jacare.. What is that supposed to mean? That he would out-grapple him? Jacare has out grappled guys like Matt Lindland, Demian Maia, Ryan Gracie and Marcelo Garcia... Mayhem would not be a problem.

EDIT: I'm not saying Mayhem won't win, i'm saying he is not stronger and submitting him won't be much of a problem if/when it goes to the ground.

actually ive been watching him since he and randy had thier match at psl. we are just going to wait to see what happens.

I honest to god flipped a coin to decide my pick for Mayhem vs. Jacare, that's how hard it was for me to decide. Heads - Jacare and Tails - Mayhem. It landed tails. Regardless of the opponent I was picking The Donger because he's my pick in this tournament, whether it's rational or not. I'm riding the Dong-train all the way to glory! ... or until it derails.