Thursday, 19 April 2012

Transcript for Government Explained

A: Yes, I have travelled across space to check on the progress of your species.

H: Cool.Shall I take you to our leader?

A: Your what?

H: Our leader - the guy in charge.

A: The guy in charge of what?

H: Well, in charge of everything.

A: You have one guy in charge of everything?

H: No, no, he’s in charge of government.

A: What is government?

H: Well, government makes the rules for us.It tells us what we can do and what we can’t do.

A: So government is really smart?They come up with wise rules for you to follow?

H: Well mostly, but some of its rules are really stupid.

A: Do you disregard those rules?

H: No, we have to follow the rules, even if they are stupid, or we disagree with them.Government punishes anyone who disobeys the rules.

A: So you are slaves to government?

H: No, no, no, it’s not like that at all.Government works for us, the people.It serves us.We’re the boss.

A: It tells you what to do, and it punishes you with violence if you disobey it, and yet you’re its boss?

H: Yeah.

A: But there are some things government does that you don’t like?

H: Well, yeah, not everything government does is popular.Like spending on wars, for example.

A: What is a war?

H: It’s when government basically spends the peoples’ money on weapons and soldiers, and then sends them over to the other side of the world to kill a bunch of people over there and destroy their country.I don’t like it that government does this.

A: Well I can see why you might not like that.Have you humans reached the stage where you generally consider stealing, enslaving and killing each other to be bad things?

H: Oh yeah, we know that.Don’t steal.Don’t attack.Don’t assault.

A: But you give money to government and they use it to kill people.

H: Well yeah, but government does good things with tax money as well.

A: Why don’t you stop paying for the things you don’t like and only pay for the good things it does?

H: No, we can’t do that.You can’t just decide to stop paying taxes, because the rules say that everyone has to pay taxes.

A: But the rules come from government though, don’t they?

H: Yeah.

A: So government made a rule which says that everyone has to pay them money?So everybody pays taxes because if they didn’t, government would punish them using violence?

H: Well yes, but most people don’t mind paying taxes; most people feel obligated to pay taxes and obey government laws, because it’s for the good of society.Society needs government, and that means we all have to pay taxes.

A: So just to make sure I’ve got this straight.Government makes the rules and you feel obligated to follow the rules, even the ones you don’t like, and it tells you what to do, and threatens to punish you if you don’t do what it says.And it uses some of the money that it has taken from you using threats of violence to pay for things you don’t like and actually think are immoral, like mass murder.

H: Yeah, but we can ask it to please tell us to do smart things, and please don’t take our money and use it to kill people.We’re allowed to ask them to tell us to do what we want them to tell us to do.

A: Are you guys just scared of this thing?Is government some huge monster that can just squish you at any moment if you disobey?

H: No, government isn’t a monster.

A: Well what is it then?Could you draw me a picture of it?

H: Government isn’t really the sort of thing you can draw a picture of.

A: Maybe you could take me to it.Where is government?

H: You mean the building?

A: Government is a building?

H: No, but the politicians who make up the government have buildings they work from.

A: So government is a group of these politicians?

H: Yeah.

A: OK, so what species are these politicians?

H: Well they’re… human.

A: Like you?!

H: Yeah.

A: So politicians are humans, and they’re government.You’re a human, but you’re not government?

H: No.

A: So it’s the politicians, they are the ones that boss the rest of you around, and make you do things you don’t want to do and take your money using threats of violence.But even though you’re all humans – you’re not allowed to boss them around and take their money?

H: No, they’d put us in a cage if we did that.But look, it’s not like the politicians can just do whatever they want.Like, a politician can’t just come up to me on the street and make me give him money.They can’t do that.Politicians can only do things like that in their job, when they’re working for government.

A: Oh, so politicians aren’t government.They’re just work for government.

H: Yeah.

A: OK, so government isn’t a monster, and it isn’t building, and its not politicians, it’s something else.And it employs politicians who are just regular humans, who get to order everyone else around and take their money.How does a regular human become a politician?

H: Well that’s the great thing about our government.It’s a democracy, and that means that the people actually have the power, because we get to decide who among us get to be the politicians, we get to vote.And if a politician starts doing things we don’t like, we can just replace him with someone else in the next election.

A: So the people that get chosen to be politicians only get to boss people around and take their money for a short time, and then they go back to being regular humans?

H: Exactly.

A: That sounds like a powerful position to be in.But if you get to choose who does that, I assume that politicians are always the wisest, most honest, caring and respected people among you…

H: Well, no, not really.I wouldn’t say politicians are known for being honest, or wise, or caring, and they’re certainly not the most respected people among us.Come to think of it, most politicians are lying, power-hungry crooks.

A: The ones you chose?

H: Yeah, they’re always doing things we don’t like.They use taxpayers’ money to enrich themselves and their friends, and they never keep their promises to voters.They’ve been caught stealing and lying and taking bribes, and they mostly do what the big corporations want.Yeah, they’re always doing stuff like that.They’re completely corrupt.They’re a bunch of lying crooks.

A: But you said that most humans know that stealing and beating each other up and killing are wrong.And you said that you have the power because you can change who’s in charge.So why don’t you just replace the lying, thieving, murderous crooked politicians with some regular people?

H: Well we don’t try to elect lying crooks.It just always turns out that way.But we have to have a government, because some humans are nasty, and might kill, or enslave or steal.Civilization just couldn’t survive without government.

A: Let me get this straight.Because you’re worried about the small number of nasty people that are willing to kill, enslave and steal, you think it’s necessary for your survival to have a system where some humans among you, for a short while, get to call themselves the government, and they get to order everyone else around like slaves and, if they want, commit mass murder, using money they stole, using threats of violence.Politicians get to kill, enslave and steal, because if they didn’t, someone else might?And you try to elect good honest people to be politicians but what happens every time is that the people you elect turn out to be corrupt, evil, lying crooks.That’s your system?

"Politicians get to kill, enslave and steal, because if they didn’t, someone else might?" I know you based this well-crafted video on Larken Rose's ideas, but he has missed the key element that enables governments to come into and remain in existence. Politicians do NOT kill, enslave and steal. They have employed enforcers, other human beings who are willing to do so, threaten and even initiate physical force for the purpose of making others conform to the rules that rulers have written/spoken.

Government enforcers are who make the billions of words that comprise all actually legislated laws/regulations/mandate/edicts/etc more than simply ignorable scribbles on paper or electrons on various media. There are far more non-enforcers in the population of any area than there are government enforcers. Consequently the withdrawal of all voluntary association - no sales, no service, no camaraderie, no anything - with those who remain enforcers, despite attempts using reasoned logic for why they should cease in such roles, can have major persuading effects. All it takes is for the non-enforcers to, in effect, turn their backs - shun - the enforcers among them. No one can continue to exist if no one will deal with them in any manner. Shunning and ostracism have a long history of use back through the ages and can be even more widely effective with modern technology.

Written and in-person protests may give some a sense that they are "doing something", but it is far from enough and not truly effective at the root. Recommend: "Tax/Regulation Protests are Not Enough; Relationship of Self-Responsibility and Social Order" - http://selfsip.org/focus/protestsnotenough.html

I agree. That there are so few enforcers relative to non-enforcers shows that it is really about the ideas that people hold... States exist because most people believe they are a good idea. I think Larken makes this point better than I ever could in his "The Tiny Dot" video.

Shunning and ostracism are very effective tools, but shunning the state completely at this time is not going to work. You can't help the liberty movement much from prison. These tools will become more effective once a significant minority are anti-statist, because then the state won't be able to lock away dissenters without their whole scam falling apart. At the moment, very few people have sympathy with tax evaders, for example. This has to change first.