to be annoyed that we are excluded

Here comes the excuses, so far I've batted them back with good humour but its fading fast.Been seeing someone on and off for a while, he spends time art mine, with my young kids etc.Hes off to NEC with his son tomorrow who I havent met.I just invited myself and DD to go to, as he knows we love motorbikes too.Cue excuses.So far we've had 'u know I'm going with DS', to which I replied 'oh sorry for confusion, I meant we all go then u see us and DS, win win, wharves time are u picking me up?' To which he replied 'told u I'm going with DS' to which I replied 'thats fine, can't wait to meet him. What time shall I be ready for' .....I'm on a hiding to nothing ain't it? How on earth do I salvage this?

No she didnt your interpretation of the situation was wrong, IMO, I could see straight away that OP meant he had cancelled their Saturday, not her plans to go to NEC, its just the way you chose to read it.

And why you, because you are the one who is acting like a dog with a bone who doesnt want to let go of it.

Nora I admitted I was pushy and was wrong to push him.I'm going to leave it here as for some reason u seem to be taking things personally and that's not my intention. I've felt I've always got to be on the defensive with u and that's not nice.I'm sorry u had a bad experience when younger and I can see why introducing boyfriends to DCs wouldst sit well with u. But I guess that horse as bolted as far as I am concerned.And yes I do find this thread rather self indulgent! I'm not used to talking about myself quite this much! It's been nice to talk to other adults for a change. Even if I've been given a pasting!

For example, I know of someone who is currently living with a CP social worker and her children - and is on bail for rape and sex with a child. I do not know how that is not a conflict of interest but there you go.

I didn't say he cancel our plans to go to the NEC. I said (or meant) he cancelled our plans ....to go to the NEC.I didn't say he took DD and excluded me. I said DD has met them but not me.Just because I'm not articulate doesn't make me a liar.As for why haven't I met his son in those 13 yrs, well I did briefly once bump in to him in Asda when he was 9 but that's hardly the same as met him now, as an adult, as someone important to his dad. Also our 13 yr friendship was a group of us down the pub every wkend, not happy families! (until I had DS anyway!)

Nora I think you'll find most DC who have been abused were abused by a family member.

What the fuck has that got to do with anything? I am fully aware actually since my step father repeatedly raped me. I know loads about it. Note step father.Its actually not blood relatives. That statsic includes step parents and parents partners. If you want to get technical.

my comment about my kids only staying with my parents was because you said you bet I left my kids with female friends and i don't leave my kids with any relatives. Its just mum, dad (now remarried) and my brother and sil.

you were the one that intimates you boyfriend was more interesed in your dd and took her off. Rather than doing you a favor.

I am talking about the fact that you claimed to have said in your OP that you screwed up. Then 2 minutes later say 'but I think I am right'.

You say you invited yourself to the NEC then said he cancelled your plans to go to the NEC. When there weren't any.You also said you would have been fine if he had said its was a boys day out. Which he did.

Then you said he want to introduce dd to his family and excluded you. But actually he did a favor for you as you were in a 'bind' so couldn't have gone. So you weren't excluded.

That's not drip feeding. Its changing stories.

Well done for admitting you were wrong and try to be a calmer. Let him decide what he wants to do in regards to his son.

I am wondering how come you have known this man for 13 years, consider him a good friend and you have never met the son he spends loads of time with.

I trust my friend of 13 yrs and he trusts his sister implicitly, that's good enough for me. I leave my DC at nursery and school with strangers.Nora I think you'll find most DC who have been abused were abused by a family member.