Anyone get news lately on the middle east and japan? After the no-fly zone bit in libya, it seems all news coverage of Fukishima and the middle-eastern conflicts have all but ceased... which I find distressing to say the least...

MeanderingBeing wrote:Anyone get news lately on the middle east and japan? After the no-fly zone bit in libya, it seems all news coverage of Fukishima and the middle-eastern conflicts have all but ceased... which I find distressing to say the least...

Same thing here. Even Charlie Sheen is dead news. Weird. Online is plenty of info but not on TV news. Our Lottery is getting more attention LOL.

Fukushima in Japan, in my opinion, is rolling towards becoming a bigger scale of Chernobyl in slow-motion. They have six hot spots compared to Chernobyl's one reactor, as Fukushima has 4 reactors + 2 Nuclear Fuel storage facilities. It has all the potential of becoming an apocalyptic case. Japanese authorities seem to exhibit an astonishing level of ineptitude in their dealing with the unfolding case in front of them and a certain level of "underhand approach" in respect of the information they release to the public.

They seem not to be able to read the Geiger counter readings properly somehow, as the radiation levels are always corrected after they are released to the public, and therefore now it has developed to a trust issue and it's difficult to believe which reading is the real reading now. Sounds funny, but it's just a very good case of an extreme ineptitude and mismanagement. Yesterday it was said that the sea water in front and around of the Fukushima reactor complex was 10 million times higher than the normal, today they said it was a wrong reading and that the levels are not 10 million times higher, but it was still very very high. So how high was it? 1 million? Two.. three?? Auction of numbers. But further away from the reactor complex radiation levels are still increasing. Hundreds of miles away, sea water was 1250 times more radioactive yesterday, now today it has increased to 1850 times. Tokyo tap water has radiation now, too; but according to the authorities it does not cause an "immediate" danger. So what type of danger it causes? So you don't die within days or weeks, but it may cause harm in "long term" ; but not in "immediate" term?? So it's OK? Very strange and untrustable, and "incomplete" news are being released. I feel sorry for Japanese people, really. But the effects are starting to reach other countries as well.

Nightwatch wrote:Fukushima in Japan, in my opinion, is rolling towards becoming a bigger scale of Chernobyl in slow-motion. They have six hot spots compared to Chernobyl's one reactor, as Fukushima has 4 reactors + 2 Nuclear Fuel storage facilities. It has all the potential of becoming an apocalyptic case. Japanese authorities seem to exhibit an astonishing level of ineptitude in their dealing with the unfolding case in front of them and a certain level of "underhand approach" in respect of the information they release to the public.

They seem not to be able to read the Geiger counter readings properly somehow, as the radiation levels are always corrected after they are released to the public, and therefore now it has developed to a trust issue and it's difficult to believe which reading is the real reading now. Sounds funny, but it's just a very good case of an extreme ineptitude and mismanagement. Yesterday it was said that the sea water in front and around of the Fukushima reactor complex was 10 million times higher than the normal, today they said it was a wrong reading and that the levels are not 10 million times higher, but it was still very very high. So how high was it? 1 million? Two.. three?? Auction of numbers. But further away from the reactor complex radiation levels are still increasing. Hundreds of miles away, sea water was 1250 times more radioactive yesterday, now today it has increased to 1850 times. Tokyo tap water has radioactive now, too; but according to the authorities it does not cause an "immediate" danger. So what type of danger it causes? So you don't die within days or weeks, but it may cause harm in "long term" but not "immediate" term?? So it's OK? Very strange and untrustable, and "incomplete" news are being released. I feel sorry for Japanese people, really. But the effects are starting to other countries as well.

And we're talking millions of people. They really have no choice but to keep doing what they are doing and hang on to hope.

3040Krag wrote:What''s "normal" and what's not? Relative terms don't do anything but promote fear and hysteria. Please keep in mind that what's significant at the local level is not going to be worth losing sleep over globally, IMHO.

"Significant" meaning "let's be prudent and ensure minimal local health impact on already healthy people" and "not worth losing losing sleep" meaning it's not even close to "significant" globally.

I, for one, am not losing any sleep over this accident of nature and man. The exposure to this radiation is miniscule in relation to the radiation I bathe in daily from normal activity of being alive on the planet.

FWIW.

Says the guy out in the middle of the US lol We have had elevated radiation but nothing significant (so they say). http://www.aqmd.gov/

Please, I'm looking for specifics. I noticed even on the internet news is starting to cut off. As rock said, local robberies and stabbings are getting more media attention, which in my eyes is trivial relative to the middle-east and japan. The other day a friend emailed me a video of snipers taking people out on the streets of Yemen, which is worrying, and I've heard little about fukushima since they started using helicopters to dump water on the reactors. Yes, none of this REALLY affects me, nor do I lose any sleep over it, but I am however concerned. As much as I proclaim to hate people, I am still pretty empathetic towards others' plights. I just want to know what's going on.

Things just keep on getting better and better don't they. Mother nature seems to determined to flush some pests out of the system. Oh well, still 9 months to go until the real shit hit's the hyperdrive.

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DARK TEMPLAR wrote:Things just keep on getting better and better don't they. Mother nature seems to determined to flush some pests out of the system. Oh well, still 9 months to go until the real shit hit's the hyperdrive.

It's a moving story! Human tragedy. Hard to let it pass without remembering the Fukushima reactors in Japan, too. I hope in the future there won't be similar stories being told in Japan, too. Nuclear energy is useful to provide for the energy hunger of the developed world, alright, but it also comes with inevitable dangers in-built. Human err and/or the wrath of nature is always on the cards.

Radioactive water is said to be leaking from the plants reservoirs into the sea in rather high quantities and at highly polluted levels. Pollution level was given as being 8 million times above the safe-drinking water. This saga seems to have a never-ending story characteristic.They don't appear to be managing this crisis quite well.

We have stopped buying fish due to this crisis. It is best to steer clear of fish unless one has a gieger counter which are about $500 US. And on a lighter note we have stopped buying chicken but not because of radiation. That was because I learned they (large breeders) feed them small amounts of arsenic to make them retain water which in turn makes me retain water and I hate to retain water. I don't want to retain anything but a large percentage of my paycheck which is yet to happen.

I would agree with you on such precautions, buddy. Although I'm not a guy who gets worried of things easily, a lot of serious news coming from Japan point to an rapidly escalating problem which seems to have all the hallmarks of a situation actually much worse than what they are letting us know. 3040Krag would of course know it better as a scientist in the relevant field, it's what I heard from the news that now Japanese have given up continuing with the current cleaning process and admitted defeat; and now they are proposing a "frozen wall " along the reactor complex .