skatingtripods wrote:Seems to me that the best punishment would be to have him in that locker room with some very large black people ready to beat his ass if he ever says it in their presence.

The best punishment is that Mike Vick, an African-American gentleman, is gonna send him over the middle on every skinny post or sit down at the market route humanly possible to audible and throw the ball high just as the DB is arriving in coverage.

skatingtripods wrote:Seems to me that the best punishment would be to have him in that locker room with some very large black people ready to beat his ass if he ever says it in their presence.

The best punishment is that Mike Vick, an African-American gentleman, is gonna send him over the middle on every skinny post or sit down at the market route humanly possible to audible and throw the ball high just as the DB is arriving in coverage.

Michael Vick : this story :: Gary Conduit : 911 attacks.

Criminals in this town used to believe in things...honor, respect."I heard your dog is sick, so bought you this shovel"

jb wrote:The best punishment is that Mike Vick, an African-American gentleman, is gonna send him over the middle on every skinny post or sit down at the market route humanly possible to audible and throw the ball high just as the DB is arriving in coverage.

Sounds about right. Chip Kelly will put him out there to run a crossing route on 3rd & 7 just for the 15-yarder for targeting.

A God Damn dead man would understand that if a minor league bus in any city took a real sharp right turn, a Zack McCalister would likely fall out. - Lead Pipe

skatingtripods wrote:Seems to me that the best punishment would be to have him in that locker room with some very large black people ready to beat his ass if he ever says it in their presence.

The best punishment is that Mike Vick, an African-American gentleman, is gonna send him over the middle on every skinny post or sit down at the market route humanly possible to audible and throw the ball high just as the DB is arriving in coverage.

Galley Boys are slop on top of a so-so burger and a bun you coulde get from a Covneninet food mart generic pack. They the Antoine Joubert of burgers; soft, sloppy, oozing grease and cheap sauce and extremely overrated by a biased fan base. Proof that if you throw enough cheap sauce shit on a burger you still can't overcome the lame burger. -JB

skatingtripods wrote:Seems to me that the best punishment would be to have him in that locker room with some very large black people ready to beat his ass if he ever says it in their presence.

The best punishment is that Mike Vick, an African-American gentleman, is gonna send him over the middle on every skinny post or sit down at the market route humanly possible to audible and throw the ball high just as the DB is arriving in coverage.

peeker643 wrote:Just glad they found the last remaining racist in sports. Now we can get on with things.

"The Attorney General says there's too much violence on TV, and that should stop. But even if you took out all the violent shows, you could still see the news. So until mankind is peaceful enough not to have violence on the news, there's no point in taking it out of shows that need it for entertainment value."

peeker643 wrote:Just glad they found the last remaining racist in sports. Now we can get on with things.

The Attorney General says there's too much violence on TV, and that should stop. But even if you took out all the violent shows, you could still see the news. So until mankind is peaceful enough not to have violence on the news, there's no point in taking it out of shows that need it for entertainment value.

e0y2e3 wrote:Really shocked by FUDU jumping in with the "BUT BLACK PEOPLE SAY IT!!! THEY SHOULDN'T DO THAT!!!!" post.

LOL at the racist waiting for someone, anyone to say something he could cling to in this situation.

You go white trash! YOU GO!

Do you dispute the validity and well reasoned response Williams had you intellectual twerp?

He's admitting it will be hard to look at Cooper the same way, he lost trust in Cooper (a well deserved loss in trust), but also admits he was still doesn't know Cooper well enough to turn his back on him completely. Funny that Williams didn't feel the need to put a bigger target on Cooper's back.

JFC did you pay a lot of money to be a full blown idiot.

Criminals in this town used to believe in things...honor, respect."I heard your dog is sick, so bought you this shovel"

BTW: I'm more amused by you running in here to throw out a qualification of the use of the word since you are a giant racist than I care about Riley Cooper. Riley Cooper is a dumbass that said a dumbshit thing and will get his for it, especially if he really is a racist.

It's just incredible the noted biggot FUDU shows up immediately to post:

Intellectual dishonesty can be defined by a white guy pretending that he doesn't know EXACTLY how it will be perceived if he uses the word, so fantasizing that the use of the word in a way that is intended to be anything other than purposely racist and offensive is false.

I personally don't find any insult as lame as "cracker" to be offensive, but I know that if other ethnicities use the word, they INTEND it to be offensive. Just like "Infidel", which I personally embrace since I am one, but I know that if a Muslim calls me that, he's not giving me a compliment.

It doesn't matter how YOU feel, we all know the world we actually live in and we know perfectly well how the use of words of this nature will be perceived publicly. So unless your intent is to come out loud and proud with your racism, you have to be fucking stupid to use those words. For any reason. Period.

BTW: I'm more amused by you running in here to throw out a qualification of the use of the word since you are a giant racist than I care about Riley Cooper. Riley Cooper is a dumbass that said a dumbshit thing and will get his for it, especially if he really is a racist.

It's just incredible the noted biggot FUDU shows up immediately to post:

"BLACK PEOPLE DO IT TOOO!OOO!!!!"

Dude you must be legally retarded. A qualification of the word, immediately reacting...I mean it's a 5 day old story and nobody is allowed to give props to an intelligent reply from a teammate who could have easily put a bounty on him, for fuck's sake Corky.

Criminals in this town used to believe in things...honor, respect."I heard your dog is sick, so bought you this shovel"

Hikohadon wrote:Intellectual dishonesty can be defined by a white guy pretending that he doesn't know EXACTLY how it will be perceived if he uses the word, so fantasizing that the use of the word in a way that is intended to be anything other than purposely racist and offensive is false.

I personally don't find any insult as lame as "cracker" to be offensive, but I know that if other ethnicities use the word, they INTEND it to be offensive. Just like "Infidel", which I personally embrace since I am one, but I know that if a Muslim calls me that, he's not giving me a compliment.

It doesn't matter how YOU feel, we all know the world we actually live in and we know perfectly well how the use of words of this nature will be perceived publicly. So unless your intent is to come out loud and proud with your racism, you have to be fucking stupid to use those words. For any reason. Period.

Speaking for myself..... as a cracker, there's really no slur I could be called that actually offends me. Kraut, Gerry, cracker, whitey... It carries no weight like slurs against Asians, blacks, or Hispanics. I've called Peek and JB a "mick" more times than I can remember, and I doubt their Offended Meter even twitched.

Hikohadon wrote:Intellectual dishonesty can be defined by a white guy pretending that he doesn't know EXACTLY how it will be perceived if he uses the word, so fantasizing that the use of the word in a way that is intended to be anything other than purposely racist and offensive is false.

I personally don't find any insult as lame as "cracker" to be offensive, but I know that if other ethnicities use the word, they INTEND it to be offensive. Just like "Infidel", which I personally embrace since I am one, but I know that if a Muslim calls me that, he's not giving me a compliment.

It doesn't matter how YOU feel, we all know the world we actually live in and we know perfectly well how the use of words of this nature will be perceived publicly. So unless your intent is to come out loud and proud with your racism, you have to be fucking stupid to use those words. For any reason. Period.

Exactly - and I would add, as I mentioned in the PED thread, you just GOTTA understand that the media and fans love your fall more than your achievements. Trust me, there's a zillion people more interested in Riley Cooper using the N-Word amongst the slapnuts at a country music show than having him go 120 2,000.

And this will fade not with the first great achievement of the 2013 season, but with the next stupid thing the next guy does.

e0y2e3 wrote:FWIW: based on everything known about Riley Cooper being a huge ultra-arrogant piece of shit, this couldn't have happened to a more deserving asshole.

I'm a white guy, so I'm not gonna judge the clip as if I know how it feels for a black guy to listen to that, but as a white guy I view that clip as that of an arrogant, entitled douchebag. And again, that's racist shit aside.

e0y2e3 wrote:FWIW: based on everything known about Riley Cooper being a huge ultra-arrogant piece of shit, this couldn't have happened to a more deserving asshole.

I'm a white guy, so I'm not gonna judge the clip as if I know how it feels for a black guy to listen to that, but as a white guy I view that clip as that of an arrogant, entitled douchebag. And again, that's racist shit aside.

F this guy in his ear.

Yep. Whether this guy is actually a racist or not, I don't know or frankly care. He used the term in a public setting with the intent of being as offensive to the guy as possible, the way that a do-you-know-who-I-am entitled prick that he is might do. The fact this is biting him in the ass brings me not one moment of pity.

Or why you even think it's a point worth bringing up. Honestly, I don't get the thought pattern at all that gets people instantly from "Riley Cooper uses derogatory clearly "out of bounds" word to insult a security guard" to "Yeah, but black people say it too!"

So fucking what? Are we jealous that we can't casually drop an N-bomb in public and not have to worry about backlash? Or are we the person that gets pulled over and whines to the cop that other people were going faster than you? Are these really the social issues that we choose to get indignant about?

All I'm saying is that if we want the word eliminated from the language no one should use it.

That's different than giving a shit about some double standard. At least it is in my mind.

We don't have to understand. That's the way it apparently is. It's like quarks - I don't know what the fuck they are or what they do, but I acknowledge they exist and I move on with my day.

There are a million layers of gray when it comes to dropping the N-Bomb, whether it be with an "er" or "a" suffix. The safest bet for your non-wanna-be-perceived-as-racist white boy is to not use either in any context. If you do, you're gonna get some fallout. That's just reality. And we know this.

Like I said before, we don't even know that Riley Cooper is a racist. People say shit to other people just to piss them off, they don't even have to believe in it. You don't even have to use the terms in an attempt to piss people off. I've referred to stupid ideas as "gay" plenty of times, and I have absolutely no beef with homosexuals. If one of my daughters told me she was gay tomorrow, I could care less, my first thought would be "At least she won't get knocked up in High School".

I use the term hoping my "audience" will understand the context, while knowing perfectly well that they might not. A calculated risk, probably stupid (or gay).

When you walk up to a black man and drop the N-bomb on him in the fashion that Cooper did, you gotta know that could go all kindsa south on you. And it's not even remotely relatable to some black dude in a rap video using the same term, because the context is completely different AND WE KNOW THIS.

peeker643 wrote:Chris, "The way it is" enslaved a race of people here for > 100 years and "The way it is" gave us separate but equal and a wink and a nod when black teens were hanging from sturdy trees in the south.

"The way it is" ain't the fucking way it should be and until it is then we're going to keep living with stupid shit like this and ignorance and intolerance, along with a nice heaping of distrust.

Are you seriously equating those circumstances to the horrible unfairness of white people not being able to call people "niggas"?

This goes deeper than just this word, obviously not for this story it doesn't, but in general it does. It's akin to the word "retard" in that cultural changes and trends in communication often flip derogatory or sensitive language upside down. To which the word that once carried negative sensitivities with it carries a very different meaning depending on the understood context in which it is used.

I use the word retard way too much, both online and IRL, and if the context of which I use that word isn't understood by someone it is a very harmful word. Don't believe me, just say retard in front of a dad that is standing 10' from his mentally challenged kid. But at the same time to dismiss any double standards (regardless of how intentional or unintentional) is naive, disingenuous humility or down right apologetic (or all of the above). If that same dad uses that word ten minutes later it doesn't mean I all of sudden don't know the term is harmful. It just means said dad certainly isn't one to lecture anyone on the topic and has his own issues to address.

peeker643 wrote:Chris, "The way it is" enslaved a race of people here for > 100 years and "The way it is" gave us separate but equal and a wink and a nod when black teens were hanging from sturdy trees in the south.

"The way it is" ain't the fucking way it should be and until it is then we're going to keep living with stupid shit like this and ignorance and intolerance, along with a nice heaping of distrust.

Are you seriously equating those circumstances to the horrible unfairness of white people not being able to call people "niggas"?

Yeah, fight the good fight, big guy.

Are you seriously equating my not wanting to hear anyone say the word and thinking all people should bury it forever as me thinking it's "unfair" that black guys do use it?

e0y2e3 wrote:Really shocked by FUDU jumping in with the "BUT BLACK PEOPLE SAY IT!!! THEY SHOULDN'T DO THAT!!!!" post.

LOL at the racist waiting for someone, anyone to say something he could cling to in this situation.

You go white trash! YOU GO!

Do you dispute the validity and well reasoned response Williams had you intellectual twerp?

He's admitting it will be hard to look at Cooper the same way, he lost trust in Cooper (a well deserved loss in trust), but also admits he was still doesn't know Cooper well enough to turn his back on him completely. Funny that Williams didn't feel the need to put a bigger target on Cooper's back.

JFC did you pay a lot of money to be a full blown idiot.

Here's as close as I'm coning to touching this with a 30 ft pole.

If Riley decides his mediocre NFL career is over, and he in fact gets fined or suspended, he could become a darling of the racial/culture wars right very easily. That word is used bu African-Americans to other African-Americans on the team on what I would guess is a daily basis. To say he can't becasue of his race ? I can't see any court ruling anything but a straight up 14th Ammendment violation. How would it not? Setting aside any and all common sense, It's essentially the same word that is allowed to be used by one race and not by another at the end of the day. I would LOVE to see the coverage of Scalia asking about the dif between the word ending in an "a" vs an "er". Who would the expert witness be? Lil John? LMAO. It'd make the OJ trial look like a boring traffic violation. Best and stupidest court room drama ever. Talk about being a right wing cause celeb... It's perfect for Cooper. He could run for congress in FLA.

And shout out to Eye... who told you it wasn't cool to drop in your old sig line with the Shaq reference? ;-)

peeker643 wrote:Chris, "The way it is" enslaved a race of people here for > 100 years and "The way it is" gave us separate but equal and a wink and a nod when black teens were hanging from sturdy trees in the south.

"The way it is" ain't the fucking way it should be and until it is then we're going to keep living with stupid shit like this and ignorance and intolerance, along with a nice heaping of distrust.

Are you seriously equating those circumstances to the horrible unfairness of white people not being able to call people "niggas"?

Yeah, fight the good fight, big guy.

Are you seriously equating my not wanting to hear anyone say the word and thinking all people should bury it forever as me thinking it's "unfair" that black guys do use it?

Yep, a term started by white men on plantations and used while whipping blacks is certainly the same as the term retard or gay.

I don't support any of these terms*, but there is a long history attached to this word, white's using it to put a race down (physically and mentally) and those being put down on those plantations using it as a rally cry to keep them selves together.

This is a word that literally has a history that is directly tied to white men and whips. It's not just some "insult".

For fucks sake, FUDU, you really are the dumbest piece of white trash to ever grace this board. I just hope someone pops finally decides you and your dart are sketchy enough to follow you around and shoot your ass when you turn around.

*I, like every person here can admit to using all of these terms in the past, every single one of them and it was wrong. But growing up in a house and area where the N word is as common as saying hello tends to cause those things. Not to mention growing up where I did I didn't even know the word "Oriental" was offensive till I said it to an Asian friend.

Yep, a term started by white men on plantations and used while whipping blacks is certainly the same as the term retard or gay.

I don't support any of these terms*, but there is a long history attached to this word, white's using it to put a race down (physically and mentally) and those being put down on those plantations using it as a rally cry to keep them selves together.

This is a word that literally has a history that is directly tied to white men and whips. It's not just some "insult".

For fucks sake, FUDU, you really are the dumbest piece of white trash to ever grace this board. I just hope someone pops finally decides you and your dart are sketchy enough to follow you around and shoot your ass when you turn around.

*I, like every person here can admit to using all of these terms in the past, every single one of them and it was wrong. But growing up in a house and area where the N word is as common as saying hello tends to cause those things. Not to mention growing up where I did I didn't even know the word "Oriental" was offensive till I said it to an Asian friend.

No joke, last time I was home same time as my step brothers after the 20th N***** dropped during a Euchre game I snapped on them. It turned into basically an hour of me pleading with them to stop trying to live with this classification of N****** and Black People not being the same thing.

I got nowhere, eventually going off on the younger step bro to the point he broke down in tears.

Fuckin Ohio*

(And they went to Canfield JB)

*and yes, the Boston Burbs like Revere are just as racist as anywhere in the South or Ohio. Maybe I should say fuckin Irish.

e0y2e3 wrote:No joke, last time I was home same time as my step brothers after the 20th N***** dropped during a Euchre game I snapped on them. It turned into basically an hour of me pleading with them to stop trying to live with this classification of N****** and Black People not being the same thing.

I got nowhere, eventually going off on the younger step bro to the point he broke down in tears.

Fuckin Ohio*

(And they went to Canfield JB)

*and yes, the Boston Burbs like Revere are just as racist as anywhere in the South or Ohio. Maybe I should say fuckin Irish.

peeker643 wrote:Chris, "The way it is" enslaved a race of people here for > 100 years and "The way it is" gave us separate but equal and a wink and a nod when black teens were hanging from sturdy trees in the south.

"The way it is" ain't the fucking way it should be and until it is then we're going to keep living with stupid shit like this and ignorance and intolerance, along with a nice heaping of distrust.

Are you seriously equating those circumstances to the horrible unfairness of white people not being able to call people "niggas"?

Yeah, fight the good fight, big guy.

Are you seriously equating my not wanting to hear anyone say the word and thinking all people should bury it forever as me thinking it's "unfair" that black guys do use it?