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Now I am not saying no one can jungle in 3v3 currently, but I have never seen one of my team mates EVER choose to jungle, and actually win.

I don't know how to respond to this. >2k games and you don't understand the benefits of jungling on the current TT map? Or why every ranked game has a jungler? And you lose every time you have a jungler?

When first entering this thread, I was interested in seeing your opinion on a few things, but after reading this, I've lost all interest.

I don't know how to respond to this. >2k games and you don't understand the benefits of jungling on the current TT map? Or why every ranked game has a jungler? And you lose every time you have a jungler?

When first entering this thread, I was interested in seeing your opinion on a few things, but after reading this, I've lost all interest.

I understand the benefits, but that doesnt mean I have ever, nor will I ever see them.

Jungling is like an experimental drug, it has differnt effects on differnt people, not everyone deals with it the same.

I have countered almost every jungler I face, since that is true, and I have lost every game a jungler is on my team, evidence leads me to believe if I am playing jungling is bad.

It is alot more sensable to have the top player try to control top jungle while bottom lane controls mid jungle, since if you push to the tower you have spare time anyways.

You may have differnt results, but in my experience a jungler loses the game for their team, unless that team caters to the junglers pace and prettymuch babysit them. And even then that can waste alot of your laning time ending in a loss.

I'm looking for a new champion to play that would be good for 3v3s. Preferably some kind of heavy AD that's hard to take down. I was thinking of someone like Lee Sin or Renekton. Do you have any other ideas that would fit the bill?

I'm looking for a new champion to play that would be good for 3v3s. Preferably some kind of heavy AD that's hard to take down. I was thinking of someone like Lee Sin or Renekton. Do you have any other ideas that would fit the bill?

I do love both Lee and Ren for differnt reasons. Lee can control a map since he can wall jump easily, while Ren is a bit on the tankier side and has a smaller learning curve to play.

Other good tanky dps for 3v3 would include Jax, as he has great CC and can wall jump,
Garen, who is tanky and scales well with AD, as well as Pantheon. While he is not a true "Bruiser" his ult lets him gank very easily, he has a CC and can put out some great damage.

While every "Bruiser" is good in 3v3 not everyone of them will fit your personal playstyle.

Hopefully this will help you to pick a champion that will suite your needs.

How do you win if the other team camps at their base and can throw you into their death turret? It's very difficult to take down the normal turret guarding their nexus, and often teammates end up feeding. I've lost games where we should have won and had enemies turrets+nexus down, only to be aced eventually from the inability to destroy their turret despite having dragon buff/red buff and such advantages. Furthermore, it seems that the other team can farm well with the super minions at their base too.

Eg. Rammus uses his lure to make you auto-attack and flashes into the death turret, Singed uses his throw back and throws you into their death turret, etc. Especially if your team doesn't have a great tank.