All of you talking about the whole unlucky numbers (4, 13) mumbo jumbo, it's a business where such things don't matter, I mean we are getting the PS''4'' after all regardless of it being bad luck in Japan.

since when did microshaft announce an official release date for the bone? they havent, it seems like you pulled that nov. 5th date out of your rectal passage.

It's speculation at the moment because nothing official has
Been announced but that's the release date for launch Xbox one games in Australia so it's more than likely set in stone for that date unless it changes which it could.

Been to 3 EB Games stores and they have all said that the PS4 will be launching first week in December for Australia so I'm betting now that a November 26/27 release date for America's. no official press statements or wording from anywhere but one fella claims that he's received phone calls from Sony Australia reps saying that that's the plan for Australia but its subject to change at anytime.

Apparently the Xbox one will launch a month ahead of the PS4 according to a manager I spoke with he said its also more feasible because PS4 Pre-orders are currently 66 percent more than the Xbox One so consoles are in over supply at the moment and finding one on launch day will be extremely easy because the demand isn't as great as the PS4 that's why they're launching earlier.