I wonder if the writing this season suffered because writers bailed to work on the 13,000 spinoffs being explored by HBO?

I don’t know. Honestly wondering if the writer’s room did have significant turnover?

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I think it's because Benioff and Weiss were told by HBO that the network wanted 10 seasons, they said no and were ticked off at the network, so half-assed the final season. I've lost a lot of respect for those guys over the course of 2 years. All that wait for THIS...?

Pretty boring. I'm not pissed or anything, but I think most were expecting better or more clever resolutions that might catch us off guard and we'd go, "oh, why didn't I think of that? It was there all along! "

You guys covered the more obvious stuff, but I really disliked Arya's 'exploring West' resolution. This screams spinoff and that's annoying. She deserved more.

Pretty boring. I'm not pissed or anything, but I think most were expecting better or more clever resolutions that might catch us off guard and we'd go, "oh, why didn't I think of that? It was there all along! "

You guys covered the more obvious stuff, but I really disliked Arya's 'exploring West' resolution. This screams spinoff and that's annoying. She deserved more.

You guys covered the more obvious stuff, but I really disliked Arya's 'exploring West' resolution. This screams spinoff and that's annoying. She deserved more.

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For me it was just the condensed timeframe. She’s kind of a Frodo in this story—how does she go back to a normal life? But Frodo got a coda to show him unable to fit back in again before he decides to leave. I would have liked to have seen something similar here.

For me it was just the condensed timeframe. She’s kind of a Frodo in this story—how does she go back to a normal life? But Frodo got a coda to show him unable to fit back in again before he decides to leave. I would have liked to have seen something similar here.

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There is actually a few parallels there. We know that Martin is a HUGE LOTR fan, and it shows.

I am not sure what they were expecting for Arya. She wasn't going back to Winterfell (she'd kill Sansa). She wasn't staying in Kings Landing. She has already had her fill of Essos.

Remember, in like Season 2 she asked what lies beyond the edge of the map. It was a PERFECT way for the Arya story to finish.

This quote from a review on Collider sums up Seasons 7 and 8 perfectly.

I’m more confident than ever that George R. R. Martin did tell Benioff and Weiss every character’s conclusion but not the paths to get there, and the six-episode season forced us to take the most shoe-horned, ass-backward roads possible. It’s like telling your Uber driver “I don’t care which way you go, as long as I eventually end up at this address” and the dude drives straight through a wild baboon sanctuary to get there. Like, applaud the sheer efficiency, but surely there was a more logical route that didn’t involve monkey s*** getting flung at us from all sides.

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Also, this. is. glorious:

After finding his mother lying dead among the Red Keep’s ruined throne room, Drogon—the last living dragon on the planet—turns his rage on the Iron Throne, melting it into a lava-puddle before grabbing Daenerys in his claws and flying into the mist above Blackwater Bay. It’s a beautifully rendered, poignant, highly symbolic moment that is also objectively funny for the following reasons, listed here in the order of how hard they make me chuckle:

This is the second time in six episodes that Jon Snow has stood up and screamed in the face of a dragon.

There is the narrative possibility that Drogon saw Daenerys had been stabbed and turned his attention not on Jon, but on the only rational culprit: A chair made of swords.

There is a second narrative possibility that Drogon has been studying English Lit in between genocides and, instead of killing Jon, this actual dragon delivered a B+-worthy dictation on metaphor and symbolism by burning the real reason for Daenerys’ death.

the resolutions were fine but the writing was pathetic...all the time spend wasting time just to show someones face for 45 seconds as they did nothing.
cant believe it took them two years to film six episodes of crap

why bother even having a nights watch now that the night king is dead and the wall is down??
if the watch is still there...why is sam tarly a grand measter in kings landing instead of back at the wall??
by the way, how did sam become a grand maester anyway?? worst case he should have been restored as lord tarly since his dad and brother are dead.

"why do you think I came all this way?"....like Bran somehow now sees the future and knew he would be elected king.

I liked the scene of Brienne filling out Jamies page...he had mentioned it was an issue for him.

the resolutions were fine but the writing was pathetic...all the time spend wasting time just to show someones face for 45 seconds as they did nothing.
cant believe it took them two years to film six episodes of crap

why bother even having a nights watch now that the night king is dead and the wall is down??
if the watch is still there...why is sam tarly a grand measter in kings landing instead of back at the wall??
by the way, how did sam become a grand maester anyway?? worst case he should have been restored as lord tarly since his dad and brother are dead.

"why do you think I came all this way?"....like Bran somehow now sees the future and knew he would be elected king.

I liked the scene of Brienne filling out Jamies page...he had mentioned it was an issue for him.

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The Watch is not still there. When they got to Castle Black, it was deserted except for Tormund and the Wildlings. So Jon went with them instead of living by himself in a deserted Castle Black serving no purpose.

As for Sam as Grand Maester, that writing was on the wall for a very long time.