I am basically a citizen journalist, and as bad a reputation as that has earned itself (largely due to the kinds of irresponsible idiots we find at freefromthoughtblogs), I like to maintain integrity for my own sake if no one else’s. That is why everything I write is fully referenced and independently verifiable – which is the primary source of grief for the baboons, and most folks that are even remotely interested in journalistic integrity notice that pretty much straight away without being told.

What the relentless stream of bile from the baboons is conspicuous by is complete absence of any kind of evidence or substance. Pointing this out is an endless source of fury for them – the Emperors and Empresses really are naked and can’t hide that fact. They compensate by spinning off the bile into other, viler and equally substance free slanders such is this recent one –

Almost Diamonds, latest babble

At once outrageous and subtle, it is fully indicative of the latest style of personal villification that pretty much all of freefromthought blogs now indulges in. First it reiterates the currently popular meme that I am an unstable, violent maniac – all without any substantiation of course – equivalent to David Mabus. Second that I am making “targets” of “innocents”. Indeed, “innocents” that feed off the secular teat by spouting derangement, slander and racial and sexual villification. How dare anybody call them to be accountable?

Ophelia Benson provides some substance to her arguments.

This is all on the tail of similar slanders – my either being a rapist or a rape advocate; that I think it’s cool to beat women; that I am a “stalker” (an oldie but a goodie, great for spurious complaint emails to web hosts); have inadequate genitalia and stunted sexuality; am cruel to animals etc. etc., again all without a single piece of evidence. Jews drink infants’ blood, negroes have thick skulls and want to rape your white women, homosexuals are pedophiles. These types of blood libels are as old as history, and a favourite first response to criticism from any ideological loser that has no legs to stand on.

These are secular withdoctors, sitting around the fire and inventing elaborate demonologies to frighten naive children scared of the strange noises in the dark. It’s all they can do when they have nothing else to prop themselves up with.

Of course, I am hardly the first to have been targeted by this kind of systematic character destruction by the baboon hordes. Amongst many others, Abbie Smith and Bluharmony – the latter with the added pleasure of the accusation of implied psychiatric disorder. “Only insane people could ever have a problem with Watson/FTB”. So very Victorian – uppity women simply must be insane, no other explanation. There really is no gutter tactic that the baboons will not resort to. In this one respect they do not discriminate – their filth against females if anything is worse than that against males. In fact, these current idiocies from PZ Myers and his troop of morons to “out” me to the GAC and police seem positively trivial in comparison to the raw malice directed at other women.

The true malice is also evident in the manner with which these slanders are delivered – not via coherent entire articles that can be rebutted, but via endless gibberish threads where individual cretins add their own one liner slurs to their heart’s content and dissenting opinion purged. It is a method repeated consistently and really has only one aim – that of destroying people’s reputations by poisoning search engines1. Again, nothing is too low is there?

All of this nonsense does serve a purpose though – it does show PZ Myers and the dross at Freefromthoughtblogs up for precisely what they are. Jackbooted little fascists that want to establish their own orthodox ideology as the one true ideology for all of secularism – and any kind of dissent will be crushed. The People’s Democratic Republic of North Pharyngula.

It’s my duty to keep on exposing these baboons for what they are. Somebody has to do it2. And they can keep their slanderous bullshit rolling to their hearts content. All the current joy and goodness can be read here –

What a bunch of sour cunts. No longer even “victim feminists”. Outright intellectual, social and psychological cripples addicted to imaginary terrors. Taking it all out on a world that is not fair to them.

1 – All compounded by the strategy of the BigLie, where even outrageous falsehoods gain the appearance of a “truth” if repeated often enough. The baboons absolutely love this one, as mentioned many times previously.

2 – To the anonymous types within the various movements that keep popping in here to express support, here’s a little graphic –

Your silence is admission of defeat.

Edit: this is not aimed at the casual commenters. It is at those that express support then offer the excuse that they are involved in some organisation or other, therefore are prevented from commenting. It is this kind of self-censorship that enables buffoons like Myers to seize the stage so easily. Really, it’s your ship too – you can either watch it sink, or you can do something about it. Up to you and your conscience.

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49 Responses to “Freethoughtblogs: Caution, Witchdoctors At Work”

Ms. Benson appears to able to imitate an bonkers insane paranoid lunatic ranter with consummate skill.
The hysteria is so hyperbolic it wraps around itself in 4 dimension!

I take it that neither she, nor anyone in fact, has delivered ANY form of evidence for their infantile fears about you?
Or, for that matter, any form of even low-grade evidence detailing incidents of sexism in the atheist/”skeptical” movement?

Are you listening Dr. Plait?
“Evidence”. You have heard of it I take it? Or does it only required from those who are not your “friends”?

BAH! “skeptic” was supposed to be stricken out and replaced with activist. Does del tag work at least? We’ll see… Count me among those who wishes for a preview button. Useful for those of us who like to be careful with our comments.

Some people might think you are harsh, and I say those people can go and get fucked. The words (and they are only words) you use are no more vicious than those used by the baboons against even the most polite dissenter.

See, the problem is, if you go over there all “nicey, nicey” and try to raise your concerns the way a polite, civil adult would, you get dismissed as a “concern troll”. I know – I’ve tried it many time before. I ended up giving up and found this place instead.

Nicey nicey is boring – no one listens. But the wankers at FTB are definitely paying attention to you.

I don’t even think I’m harsh. I just tell it like it is. I take the lipstick off the pig. When your subject matter is this ugly and anti-humanist, it speaks for itself. I don’t have to add much. I just collate and do the unspeakable – verify.

They’ve put you on such a slippery slope, that the original figurative cunt kick has turned into you into a real life car bombing terrorist who wants to rape all the women at the upcoming conference. Oh yeah, you want to rape the men too. 🙂

They can’t argue without any slippery slopes or full out substitutions. Along with those, there’s always the good old gish gallop with avoidance of any addressing you’ve done of their points/claims and off instead they go to something else.

I haven’t watched TV in over a year and a half, but tomorrow, I’m bringing out my old tv just to watch House. Sounds like they’ve snuck in ElevatorGate references a couple times now. Just in case there’s another, I want to see it and be totally titillated. 🙂

I am with you 100% Frank. I don’t know if it is worth repeating, but as I have said before, PZ, Watson, Benson, and company thrive on abusing anyone who disagrees with them. After making my opinions known to PZ, honestly and politely, his bloggers called my a rapist, sexist, misogynist, wife abuser. After the pleasure of having the hoard abuse me I was then kicked out of his blog. I used no abusive language and was not trolling. Did he tell people not to accuse me falsely….no. Did he simply say he disagreed with me but understood my position…no. Did he try to get his hoard to stop the verbal abuse of me….no. He simply decided to shut me up.

Honestly, I don’t really care what most of these idiots think. My primary problem includes these two issues.

1) I believe there is no widespread misogyny in the atheist movement or in most atheist organizations. This is the claim of Watson, Blaghag, PZ etc. This is not demonstrable. They are conflating issues and using hyperbolic accusations to promote themselves dishonestly.

2) PZ, Watson, Benson, Blaghag etc. do not and should not represent the “atheist community”. They do not represent my opinions and do not welcome me. I will not support them as leaders. They show no real leadership and will do the cause of free speech and church/state separation more harm than good.

2) they do not represent, they however *believe* they do. This is the notion that needs to be quashed, like Myers absurd denunciation of me to GAC. This pompous idea that it somehow matters and that they will somehow take him seriously. It is the most preposterous arrogance the baboon has exhibited to date.This is just raw hubris. They need to be grabbed by the neck and have their noses rubbed in the feces they leave on all our carpets. repeatedly. Until they learn they are not gods and that they are expected to behave like humans.

Losers. Probably fishing for a more submissive victim right now. They need them – they are nothing without.

The misandry is staggering — particularly from the “awarded” crew (Molly Ivins would be aghast at the use of her name for such bigotry). It humorous to watch Ophelia get in a tizzy over “cunt” while her board is full of Men’s rights assholes accusations. Imagine if there was a board that had a dungeon full of feminist cunts rather than MRA’s.

What does that say when alleged misogynist better represents at least 3 21st century, freedom-loving women accurately. But self-proclaimed feminists are such a cringe-worthy disgrace?
It’s not the men who want the hags to STFU, it’s the WOMEN!
Right, ladies?

Yeah, Becky! I want you to STFU!!!

I’m as hetero as they come on the sexual-orientation continuum. So maybe I’m off-base by saying you’re too ugly to rape!
Please don’t post anymore nude pics of yourself online. My virgin computer doesn’t do soft-porn. But you managed to rape away it’s virginity. One can’t read about Elevatorgate without running into you getting naked for the cause

Re:2, That gang has a fantastic “I scratch your back, you scratch mine” policy and promote each other quite well.
I guess the problem is “mission creep” in the movement. PZ has often been attempting to expand the scope of atheism and skepticism.. isnt that the fight even the skeptics have been having for a while? conflating skepticism with atheism. Next step: conflate atheism with gender feminist values. Political affiliation will come next I guess. Has there been anyone so divisive to the movement?

All endorsed and subsidised by CFI, which at this point does need to rename itself the Center For Ideology and be officially classified a write-off that no longer has anything to do with what it began as. Any kind of monetary support for them now directly lines the baboons pockets. There’s nothing left to revive.

Yep! We robustly apply real freethinking combined with genuine skepticism.
They can’t handle it.
Much the same as when the many theologists who make puffed-up claims to employing reason in reaching their conclusions are clearly revealed to have been doing the opposite.

It enrages them to apoplexy. For, shallow-down, they know full-well that they have no case whatsoever, and have been shown to be resorting to a childish combination of bullying, bluster and bullshit.
They know in their hearts that they have been caught telling outrageous porky-pies that get bigger with every attempt to justify them.
Their fear is partly drawn from the internal acknowledgement that one day they are going to have to admit to themselves that they are a lying sack-of-shit.
Cognitive dissonance can only endure for so long under repeated exposure. (With some caveats)

Oh that wasn’t directed at you. There is a steady stream of “thank you for highlighting these issues, they are extremely important and I agree, but I am involved with some (unstated but important) organisation and am prevented from commenting in public myself…” It is this regime of self-censorship that allows buffoons like Myers to claim the public stage so easily. We are easy picking for self-serving pricks and we are seeing the results.

Keep up the great work, Franc. I had typed a long comment here, but my browser did something odd and I lost it all. I don’t have the will to redo it, but it was basically “baboon king is a douchebag, and a feminist lapdog.”

Love your postings: witty, urbane, cogent and relevant. Complete opposite of what you get at NoThoughtBlogs (honorable exceptions include Chris Rodda and Hank Fox).

I’ve been lagging behind the curve on my assessment of PZ. As each of Franc’s posts come out I find myself thinking ‘that’s a bit harsh, he’s not that bad’. PZ then invariably proves me a mug with a perfect illustration. Pol Pot, though? Isn’t that kinda godwinning it?

The scat afficionado smear is so typical of PZ. Franc raised the subject in a post and PZ leapt straight to smear without regard to the substance of the post. That’s one of the things that made me re-evaluate my opinion of PZ when I realised that it’s been his MO for a long time. He doesn’t bother with facts, all he wants is something he can twist to use as ammunition.

I’ve been trying to see thing’s from the other side, to understand how Franc can be perceived as dangerous. I can usually manage to get some insight into an opposing view but this one has me stumped.

As an illustration of PZ’s staggering cognitive criminality:
What is by far the biggest and longest-standing chronic instance of sexual assault meted out on infants?
Yes, it is male genital mutilation.
But because it happens to males, PZ dismisses with sneering vicious contemptuous hostility those who dare bring it to gently public attention, and by dint of his tinpot dictatorship, bans those who presume to post docile comments on the vital topic, and sits back grinning whilst his horde of mental-slaves rip the commenter to shreds, before tossing the bloody bits into his fetid dungeons.

This alone renders it perfectly valid to compare him to other tinpot dictators, such as the Pope, who actively support infant rape & torture.
I’m NOT being hyperbolic, either.

When Richard Dawkins responded to Shaftgate with his now infamous comments, the most voiced response (other than he is a misogynistic, rich, old white man) was that just because something is not as bad as another does not mean it isn’t sexism, and that it should be not be tolerated and should be discussed at length.

Then they call those that mention male circumcision, misogynistic MRAs. PZ has said “oh poor MRA has a boo boo” when the topic has been brought up.

The hypocrisy is overwhelming.

So asking a woman to join you for coffee, and taking no for an answer is worse than male circumcision, but these people are not at all sexist.

I’ve been trying to see thing’s from the other side, to understand how Franc can be perceived as dangerous.

An admirable trait – and one that I try to live by – but regarded as a weakness in baboon country. Be careful; look what happened to Walton.

They are like the Borg from Star Trek. They suck your individuality away until you’re reduced to a mindless drone. You either become one of them, or you get sick of it and leave. This is how they have built their insular little community.

PZ actually does admit that male circumcision is an issue. He just has this perception that raising the subject is an MRA attempt to shift focus from the issue of misogyny. There’s also the suspicion that he has this warped idea that men must ‘man up’ about these things, which is inherently sexist in itself and a little ironic given his ‘manly men’ jibes. The frustration in debating his collective is that if you raise any examples of hypocrisy such as tiny penis insults they will disingenuously accuse you of whining and being butthurt by the accusation, not the hypocrisy thereof.

Regarding the MRA tag, I think that he is referring to the kind of insecure losers who are more motivated by countering genuine feminism than addressing real issues affecting men, although I wonder if he actually acknowledges the legitimacy of the latter. He just never bothers to actually find out which angle you are coming from and I still cannot figure out if that is just blindness on his part or cynicism.

Darren, when Phil Giordana tried to reason with PZ over his Wiki entry I just knew the horde were going to see weakness and piss all over him and they didn’t disappoint. That is classic Pharyngula. By happy coincidence the past targets usually have been idiots trying the sympathy card in lieu of an argument, which hid the fact that the only requirement to be targeted is disagreement, reasonable or otherwise.

TFJ:
The label MRA is the hail Mary pass against logic when that logic comes from a male-especially when it comes from a male who doesn’t buy into ‘what they are selling.”

Real issues like prison growth, the rape of men, and the abuse of boys by women are easily brushed over with the term, and then the femtards rush in for funding more rape hysteria clinics.

Prison growth and rape hysteria can be correlated, and Myers, Laden, etc. are big contributors to the meme that men are all rapists.

Oddly, Styephanie Zvan actually has made attempts to address the issues beyond hyperbloe, and done as good a job as anyone who adopts the label of ‘feminist’ can do with it.She actually acknowledges some of theissue, and backs it uop withdata.

MRA’s can be broken down into three basic categories: nuts and woman haters from the right wing; burned, abused, or otherwise damaged men from all over the spectrum who have felt the direct need to be heard; and very rarely–men who actually get involved because they recognize that feminism actually combats the need’s for men’s issues to be heard.

That last category are doing amazing work–think “Innocence Project” and Barry Scheck. They have successfully gotten men off of death row who had been sitting there for decades as convicted rapists and murderers–before the Project got involved and actually tested the DNA! Over 200 men exonerated.
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Franc: I hope you get it that I think you are doing incredible work here, and I for one could never be as hilarious, insightful, or exhaustive in my critique.

Zvan censored 80% of the discussion that I was having with the idiot julian, and someone who popped in named Stacy–I think she was trolling her own blog. I don’t even screen cap stuff anymore because you have made such an incredibly solid argument here about their ethics

As a citizen journalist, i wonder if you couldn’t make an appeal to citizen journalist organizations in your area to document this sort of leveraging of individual press rights by an organized ‘movement’?

Lastly, Are you interested in carrying the witchcraft angle further? I think it’s time to move that idea forwards.

You and I are the only ones who have suggested it, but it is a very valid construct applied to that cult.

Thanks, and dammit, the proper reply will grow into a whole post. Yes, though you and I may grasp what I mean by “witchcraft”, I think it is a poor choice of word as it will be lost on most that will not want to flex their brains enough to grasp it. I will try though. “Secular demonology” is possibly a clearer way to explain it.

Franc: I left a comment for you over at ERV. Remember my feminist word mangler? All inputs default to “National security threat.” I really would like help building it.

Also, my new post is on credit card data, and trust relationships. You might like it. But trust is a two way street–too bad some of them expect us to cross it for them after they shit on us, and then, ask others to shit on us.

Lastly: maybe it’s time to talk offline? These guys are a threat to privacy, security, and the stakes go up for online conversations when tye are stalking us.