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I would ask them to book an appointment to visit my house to see what toilet I use and what food I eat, with a reminder to bring harpic, brush, dishwasher soap and sponge to clean my toilets and dishes thereafter.

I wonder if this earns them (MS BS and Kothar) brownie points with the hardline (BJP, RSS like) groups in India. They may see it as standing up for Indian culture vs. western influence and may like it.

The sad part about this whole tatti deal is that if enough sheep bleat louder than usual, they will back off a bit and come back with another equally ridiculous farmaan. Unlike actual mafia, these ones dont actually have the conviction to follow through on their words. They bend and twist according to what suits them most at that point of time.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinio ... 55118.html
Dawoodi Bohra women describe experiencing cutting at age seven, usually by medical professionals. Some have recounted traumatic memories of the procedure, of being pinned down on tables, feeling pain between their legs and feeling pain when passing urine for days after.

Refreshing to see a religious leader engage in interfaith dialog and discuss harmonious co-existence. Especially refreshing after Pottygate videos! Hats off to Fatemi Dawat for going high when MS goes low.

Before we go Gaga on Dalai Lama one should not forget about his followers killing Rohingya Muslims and not a beep from Dalai Lama, wonder why STF did not bring that with Dalai Lama.

Burmese Buddhists are not followers of the Dalai Lama - only Tibetan Buddhists are. Perhaps that is why STF did not complain to him about the people he has no influence over

The Dalai Lama is a vocal ambassador for his people against their Chinese oppressors. He taken on the powerful Chinese government and has the super powers of the world on the side of his people. He preaches the message of love not hate. There is much to be admired.

I am happy that FD folks did this inter-faith gathering, and also I am happy that they honored the Dalai Lama. He has been a good religious leader with a lot of good things to his credit.

However, the observation that SBM makes is a valid one, and I was was also going to point that out. Look, may be the Burmese Buddhists may not "follow" him, and I don't know whom they follow. However, the Dalai Lama carries a lot of weight, and his words matter. And he has NOT said a word about the Rohingya Muslims killings and the more than 600,000 people who have fled to Bangladesh - the folks that the UN called the most persecuted group in the world.

So the observation is completely valid and proper. In fact, he should say a few words, as it may make a difference to the plight of the Rohingya muslims. I hope that privately they encouraged him about the same.

Brother Ajamali, if the Burmese Buddhists don't "follow" him, as you say, then he has even less constraints, if any. Hence from a purely humanitarian point of view, he should speak up for them (just as Pope Francis did).

Before we go Gaga on Dalai Lama one should not forget about his followers killing Rohingya Muslims and not a beep from Dalai Lama, wonder why STF did not bring that with Dalai Lama.

Burmese Buddhists are not followers of the Dalai Lama - only Tibetan Buddhists are. Perhaps that is why STF did not complain to him about the people he has no influence over

The Dalai Lama is a vocal ambassador for his people against their Chinese oppressors. He taken on the powerful Chinese government and has the super powers of the world on the side of his people. He preaches the message of love not hate. There is much to be admired.

We do not know that STF did not bring up the Rohingyas in his conversation with the Dalai Lama.

Refreshing to see a religious leader engage in interfaith dialog and discuss harmonious co-existence. Especially refreshing after Pottygate videos! Hats off to Fatemi Dawat for going high when MS goes low.
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See this Ahmadi guy wearing topi in his entire life he never wore that for any functions and that to which is catching for a function at JNU .
GUESS WHAT MAY BE HE HAS BEEN Given high post as all post are vacant

And i am unable to decide how SmS is going low .
By ani ding by sharia is going low , to make people use indian toilet is going low . In australia the goverment is converting western toilets to indian type as it's health department has already suggested see https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&sourc ... Jzn7Dpfq_c

Even china is concentrating on toilets .
Even our prime minister is doing that . All are going low and you people by using western toilet are going high.
You are making fool of urself .
And indian toilets are benificial for health .
You can google it . Whats wrong in that . May be there way of approach is wrong but not the intension behind it .

And i am unable to decide how SmS is going low .
By ani ding by sharia is going low , to make people use indian toilet is going low . In australia the goverment is converting western toilets to indian type as it's health department has already suggested see https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&sourc ... Jzn7Dpfq_c

Even china is concentrating on toilets .
Even our prime minister is doing that . All are going low and you people by using western toilet are going high.
You are making fool of urself .
And indian toilets are benificial for health .
You can google it . Whats wrong in that . May be there way of approach is wrong but not the intension behind it .

Absolutely nothing wrong with the Indian toilet. Prefer it over a western one myself. So I use a squatty potty. Have done so for years. However my spouse prefers the western one and the squatty potty makes it easy for us to use the one we like. The point is that these are personal decisions and the religious leader does not need to conduct surveys and carry on wrecker attacks on people’s toilets and use high pressure tactics to get them to convert their toilets. This does not pass the smell test for a well intentioned message. This is no way to “guide” a people. It is a way to harass a people. It is intrusive and uncalled for.

It is the dialogue in the community that has become low. Not just the potty!

^^ MS is unable to deal with pressing and complex problems of the day - such as interfaith harmony. So he reduces the dialogue in the community to that of defecation and marriage venues. That is the kind of stuff that he can deal with.

Hello52 you cannot vindicate MS by saying the campaign was carried on badly. The man at the top is responsible (in this case more so - because they mimic his anger) for the actions of his administration.

And i am unable to decide how SmS is going low .
By ani ding by sharia is going low , to make people use indian toilet is going low . In australia the goverment is converting western toilets to indian type as it's health department has already suggested see https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&sourc ... Jzn7Dpfq_c

Even china is concentrating on toilets .
Even our prime minister is doing that . All are going low and you people by using western toilet are going high.
You are making fool of urself .
And indian toilets are benificial for health .
You can google it . Whats wrong in that . May be there way of approach is wrong but not the intension behind it .

By the way, in Australia, they installed some indian toilets for completely different reason - it appears their diverse population did not know how to use western toilets and caused a mess.

(quoting from above link - “What they would do is put their feet on either side of the toilet seat and quite often miss,” he said.

“It wasn’t good for other staff who came along afterwards and would have to complain repeatedly about the state of the toilets.”)

Likewise, Indian prime minister is addressing a different problem - that of toilet availability and usage especially to women - NOT of converting western to Indian. (That too he didn't do anything new - there were movements to address these issues for past 30 years through Sulabh sauchalaya and other initiatives by previous governments and NGOs.)

We do not know that STF did not bring up the Rohingyas in his conversation with the Dalai Lama.

Sister Crater Lake
Can you find out thru your sources if he did bring up this issue with Dalai Lama because if he did, it will show his leadership to stand up to atrocities on Muslim Ummah.

Sir, Dalai Lama is head of Tibetan Buddhist he would have no influence over Myanmar Buddhists.

I believe Bangladesh and Malayasia would have most leverage. The issue is beyond US influence also.

The sad part is Modi has sided with the Myanmar government. Which puts Dalai Lama not able to shift sides so as not to upset Indian govt who hosts him. Very complex game of thrones...while human lives are being destroyed.

We do not know that STF did not bring up the Rohingyas in his conversation with the Dalai Lama.

Sister Crater Lake
Can you find out thru your sources if he did bring up this issue with Dalai Lama because if he did, it will show his leadership to stand up to atrocities on Muslim Ummah.

Bro SBM, I trust that now the dialog has begun important issues WILL be discussed at the appropriate time. From my "sources" what I do know is that STF cares deeply about the displacement of all human beings be they Muslims or others. He is a man of compassion, that much is evident and he plays the long game in order to do good. A marathoner vs. a sprinter so to speak....It may not satisfy some of us who are impatient...but that is his prerogative as a leader.

I am happy that FD folks did this inter-faith gathering, and also I am happy that they honored the Dalai Lama. He has been a good religious leader with a lot of good things to his credit.

However, the observation that SBM makes is a valid one, and I was was also going to point that out. Look, may be the Burmese Buddhists may not "follow" him, and I don't know whom they follow. However, the Dalai Lama carries a lot of weight, and his words matter. And he has NOT said a word about the Rohingya Muslims killings and the more than 600,000 people who have fled to Bangladesh - the folks that the UN called the most persecuted group in the world.

So the observation is completely valid and proper. In fact, he should say a few words, as it may make a difference to the plight of the Rohingya muslims. I hope that privately they encouraged him about the same.

Brother Ajamali, if the Burmese Buddhists don't "follow" him, as you say, then he has even less constraints, if any. Hence from a purely humanitarian point of view, he should speak up for them (just as Pope Francis did).

I want to stand corrected. I said above that the Dalai Lama has not said a word. That is not accurate, and I want to correct that error. Below is a link where he spoke out about it. There may have been other times too.