Saul is obsessed with the www.phog.net (http://www.phog.net) forums... Even though most KU fans here have no clue it exists....

Its strange...

Guru

03-20-2010, 05:49 PM

He is MU scum.Ah, well Fuck him then.

Pioli Zombie

03-20-2010, 05:49 PM

Holy crap
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Buehler445

03-20-2010, 05:49 PM

Wow. This is my worst nightmare.

Pasta Giant Meatball

03-20-2010, 05:49 PM

Big offensive rebounds by KU

DeezNutz

03-20-2010, 05:50 PM

Extended the game.

Saulbadguy

03-20-2010, 05:50 PM

If UNI makes free throw, the game is over.

Reerun_KC

03-20-2010, 05:50 PM

Coach Self let this team down today with the game he called.....

Guru

03-20-2010, 05:50 PM

I'm not a KSU fan.

Ah, well **** him then.THAT:evil:

Saulbadguy

03-20-2010, 05:50 PM

Saul is obsessed with the www.phog.net (http://www.phog.net) forums... Even though most KU fans here have no clue it exists....

Its strange...

Phog.net is a very, very popular sports message board.

Reaper16

03-20-2010, 05:50 PM

FUCKYEAHMENSCH

alnorth

03-20-2010, 05:50 PM

Thats it, they basically have to steal, pass to perimeter, hit 3. IF there's a foul this game is probably over.

Pioli Zombie

03-20-2010, 05:50 PM

Big Gas explosion on K-10.
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Reerun_KC

03-20-2010, 05:50 PM

LMAO

Get your Banners ready...

Baby Lee

03-20-2010, 05:51 PM

Sherron Collins, starting off so promising, so triumphant two years ago, shuffling off a complete choke artist against a feed lot pickup squad featuring the ghost of Jake Blues.

dirk digler

03-20-2010, 05:51 PM

He just needs 1 to end the game

Pasta Giant Meatball

03-20-2010, 05:51 PM

Faroqdude can seal it

Buehler445

03-20-2010, 05:51 PM

How the fuck do you let this fucker catch the inbounds pass?

L.A. Chieffan

03-20-2010, 05:51 PM

i had niu in my bracket
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Reaper16

03-20-2010, 05:51 PM

GG, my bracket is fucked

Reerun_KC

03-20-2010, 05:51 PM

Phog.net is a very, very popular sports message board.

Not here dumbass... There are only a few here that know about it...

ChiefaRoo

03-20-2010, 05:51 PM

By the way The MVC has been to the sweet 16. I don't know what that moron announcer is talking about. Bradley and WSU did it recently.

Guru

03-20-2010, 05:51 PM

Way to go Self. You let this team lolligag their way out of the tourney. Good job coach.

Buck

03-20-2010, 05:51 PM

Good luck next year KU.

Reaper16

03-20-2010, 05:51 PM

Sherron Collins, starting off so promising, so triumphant two years ago, shuffling off a complete choke artist against a feed lot pickup squad sporting the ghost of Jake Bloues.
Or UNI is good.

kstater

03-20-2010, 05:51 PM

Congrats on the good season KU fans. There's always next year.

Lzen

03-20-2010, 05:51 PM

I noticed on that last 3 by UNI that Taylor really fucked up because he hesitated. He could have easily had the steal if hadn't hesitated. But yeah, we should have pressed starting in the first half. Or at the very least after halftime.

DrRyan

03-20-2010, 05:51 PM

I am very glad to see the Bill Self has brought back the KU tradition of getting knocked out in the second round by a team that is much less talented than they are. Add them to the list.

The UNI campus about 10 miles from me is going to be rocking tonight! :clap:

I was there in January and there are some hawt ass bitches hanging around there.

SPchief

03-20-2010, 05:55 PM

Didn't SMSU make it to the elite 8 back in the 80's?

pretty sure it was 2000 the spring before i started there

ArrowheadHawk

03-20-2010, 05:55 PM

What a pathetic waste of talent.
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Pitt Gorilla

03-20-2010, 05:55 PM

SWEET!

The UNI campus about 10 miles from me is going to be rocking tonight! :clap:After I get my kids to bed tonight, I will gladly buy you a beer.

ChiefaRoo

03-20-2010, 05:55 PM

Maybe all you Big 12 honks won't keep talking shit on the MVC now.

I'M WITH YOU ON THIS ONE CC. I Can't stand Big12 arrogance. That being said I feel bad KU is out. What a waste of talent.

Reerun_KC

03-20-2010, 05:56 PM

for some reason I am not even pissed...

More laughing at Coach Self for being to fucking stupid to not play KU's game....

Pitt Gorilla

03-20-2010, 05:56 PM

Hey, KU is one of the toughest teams we've faced this year.

Thig Lyfe

03-20-2010, 05:56 PM

Ugh.

ArrowheadHawk

03-20-2010, 05:56 PM

MVC still sucks. KU playing a bad game does ot make them good.
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Baconeater

03-20-2010, 05:56 PM

what?
MVC fans have this huge inferiority complex, I see it all the time with Creighton fans.

alnorth

03-20-2010, 05:56 PM

so im guessing we need to put some people on suicide watch?

I was watching this team closely during the 1998 season.

I'll be fine.

Guru

03-20-2010, 05:56 PM

I hope all the 1s drop this weekend. Take some of the sting away.

Pioli Zombie

03-20-2010, 05:57 PM

KU fans have shown to suck balls. Frontrunners. Self and Collins won you a fucking Championship in 2008. I've become a KState fan after this.
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DeezNutz

03-20-2010, 05:57 PM

Although this will fall on deaf ears because of today's game...

KU fans, you motherfuckers had a hell of a year. Winning both the conference regular season and the conference tournament titles...nothing to sneeze at.

Baby Lee

03-20-2010, 05:57 PM

Well, you guys had a good season.

Mediocre season, we live by Chiefs fan rules here.

King_Chief_Fan

03-20-2010, 05:57 PM

MVC fans have this huge inferiority complex, I see it all the time with Creighton fans.

well they should feel good now!!!!!!!

DaneMcCloud

03-20-2010, 05:58 PM

I hope all the 1s drop this weekend. Take some of the sting away.

do you think that coach calipari would have lost to northern iowa in the tourney? larry brown? coach k?

self seriously needs to return his paycheck for this season and get on his knees and apologize to each and every player and their parents.

what a fucking joker.

oops, choker.

swayy07

03-20-2010, 05:58 PM

sorry KU you guys had a great year though

Lzen

03-20-2010, 05:58 PM

Well, as poorly as KU played in the first half and for awhile in the second half, one could say that this game was lost at the FT line. I think UNI only missed 3 FTs. Ho many did KU miss? Unfortunately, Marcus Morris was terrible today. He is usually a decent FT shooter.

The Bunk

03-20-2010, 05:58 PM

That was so worth pissing all over my brackets. I'd have paid twice as much to see you fucksticks lose that game. Awesome.

BWillie

03-20-2010, 05:58 PM

Bill Self should return his salary for the 2009-2010 season.

What a joke.

It would be absolutely ****ing CLASSIC if K-State makes it to the Final Four.

LMAO

You are a f*cking idiot. He went 32-2 regular season. He doesn't play the game. 19 and 20 year old kids do. Shit happens in a crapshoot tournament like this. You think UNI beats KU in a best of seven NBA series? Think again.

Reerun_KC

03-20-2010, 05:58 PM

do you think that coach calipari would have lost to northern iowa in the tourney? larry brown? coach k?

self seriously needs to return his paycheck for this season and get on his knees and apologize to each and every player and their parents.

what a ****ing joker.

oops, choker.

:facepalm:

DeezNutz

03-20-2010, 05:58 PM

Collins had a terrible game, but I'm going to laugh my ass off is there's too much backlash on Self.

Dude is a great coach.

The strange thing about sports is that, often, both teams try to win.

Silock

03-20-2010, 05:58 PM

God I'm so fucking pissed right now. I'm not even pissed at UNI. They're a good team. I'm just pissed that KU sleepwalked through the first half and just generally played like they were going to get a win handed to them just because they had KANSAS written across their jersey.

Time to put a Whoopin on them again, Let it roll Baby, Rock Chalk Jayhawk , Go KU !

ROFL X 10!

alnorth

03-20-2010, 05:59 PM

I hope all the 1s drop this weekend. Take some of the sting away.

Dont really care about that. Sadly, I think there's a better than 50/50 shot that K-State makes the final four. Missouri also has at least a small chance against WVU.

memyselfI

03-20-2010, 05:59 PM

I do find it rather fitting that an Iranian wins it on Norooz. For that I am happy for him.

Baby Lee

03-20-2010, 05:59 PM

Although this will fall on deaf ears because of today's game...

KU fans, you motherfuckers had a hell of a year. Winning both the conference regular season and the conference tournament titles...nothing to sneeze at.

All that matters is wins in the big tournament/playoffs. The rest is just kidding your SELF.

DaneMcCloud

03-20-2010, 05:59 PM

:facepalm:

instead of sticking your face in your hand, would you care to dispute?

ArrowheadHawk

03-20-2010, 05:59 PM

That's bullshit how is a team that was in the top 25 most of the year a 9 seed?
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BryanBusby

03-20-2010, 05:59 PM

Don't really care much at all for basketball, but wow...what a huge win by Northern Iowa.

ChiefaRoo

03-20-2010, 05:59 PM

MVC fans have this huge inferiority complex, I see it all the time with Creighton fans.

Some do but it's balanced out by your average Big12 fan who has an overly inflated opinion of their basketball programs.

Sure-Oz

03-20-2010, 06:00 PM

You are a f*cking idiot. He went 32-2 regular season. He doesn't play the game. 19 and 20 year old kids do. Shit happens in a crapshoot tournament like this. You think UNI beats KU in a best of seven NBA series? Think again.

This isn't the fucking NBA, I think Self and the KU players must've thought it was 7 games

DeezNutz

03-20-2010, 06:00 PM

do you think that coach calipari would have lost to northern iowa in the tourney? larry brown? coach k?

self seriously needs to return his paycheck for this season and get on his knees and apologize to each and every player and their parents.

what a ****ing joker.

oops, choker.

Self is a MUCH better coach than Cal. Much.

StcChief

03-20-2010, 06:00 PM

mighty KU falls...like so many brackets are in shambles.
makes me wonder about the bracket Ranking builders, fire 'em.

Guru

03-20-2010, 06:00 PM

do you think that coach calipari would have lost to northern iowa in the tourney? larry brown? coach k?

self seriously needs to return his paycheck for this season and get on his knees and apologize to each and every player and their parents.

what a ****ing joker.

oops, choker.All the other number one seeds would have destroyed them. Well, maybe not Duke.

KU fans, you motherfuckers had a hell of a year. Winning both the conference regular season and the conference tournament titles...nothing to sneeze at.

Thanks. That one fucking loss will get you every time.

SPATCH

03-20-2010, 06:01 PM

Maybe all you Big 12 honks won't keep talking shit on the MVC now.

no u still suck.

jk well done sir. well fucking done.

DeezNutz

03-20-2010, 06:01 PM

All that matters is wins in the big tournament/playoffs. The rest is just kidding your SELF.

2008.

And you'll be back. Just a guess.

Lzen

03-20-2010, 06:01 PM

I'M WITH YOU ON THIS ONE CC. I Can't stand Big12 arrogance. That being said I feel bad KU is out. What a waste of talent.

How many teams did the Big 12 get in the tourney and how many did the MVC? Nobody said the MVC wasn't decent, but this game doesn't change the fact that the Big 12 is superior. KU choked on their dicks today and UNI played extremely well. That's how upsets happen.

ChiefaRoo

03-20-2010, 06:01 PM

That's bullshit how is a team that was in the top 25 most of the year a 9 seed?
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MVC got no love this year. I thought it was bias at first but after WSU lost in the NIT to Nevada (they split with UNI and got second in the Valley and the Valley Tournament to UNI) I have to agree with UNI's seed. KU just looked awful today. Self got out coached too.

Some do but it's balanced out by your average Big12 fan who has an overly inflated opinion of their basketball programs.
this. and the whining KU when SIU nearly knocked them out tourney a few years ago.

Billay

03-20-2010, 06:02 PM

Atleast you got football KU fans.... Oh wait you don't.

ROYC75

03-20-2010, 06:02 PM

Brutal ....... Just brutal. Self lost this one. Why we tried to slug it out and not run and pressure all game is beyond me.

With 2 minutes to go, I felt we were going to get it. Why Collins did not contest that suker on that last 3 is beyond me.

How many teams did the Big 12 get in the tourney and how many did the MVC? Nobody said the MVC wasn't decent, but this game doesn't change the fact that the Big 12 is superior. KU choked on their dicks today and UNI played extremely well. That's how upsets happen.

I have to agree more or less with you about that. However, KU got out hustled and out coached today. Koch dunking behind Aldrich was a prime example.

kstater

03-20-2010, 06:03 PM

Guess KU fans were right about the Midwest bracket. Lehigh and N. Iowa really was a murderers row.

dirk digler

03-20-2010, 06:03 PM

do you think that coach calipari would have lost to northern iowa in the tourney? larry brown? coach k?

self seriously needs to return his paycheck for this season and get on his knees and apologize to each and every player and their parents.

what a fucking joker.

oops, choker.

That's crazy. I am a MU fan and don't like the Jayhawks but I would love to have Self as my coach. He is probably is a Top 3 coach in college bb.

'Hamas' Jenkins

03-20-2010, 06:03 PM

collins? that's plain dumb.

self? that's completely understandable.

the guy regularly collapses in the tournament.

Once is an abberation.

Twice is a concern.

Three times is a pattern.

Just be glad Memphis couldn't make a single FT in the last 3 minutes of the game.

As a KSU alum, I honesty can't be too upset... but I loved watching KU play this year. They have a lot of talent, and they were a joy to watch when they weren't playin my Wildcats. Good run Jayhawks... and Go WILDCATS!

ArrowheadHawk

03-20-2010, 06:04 PM

Collins with the worst game of his career didn't help.
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DeezNutz

03-20-2010, 06:04 PM

collins? that's plain dumb.

self? that's completely understandable.

the guy regularly collapses in the tournament.

Once is an abberation.

Twice is a concern.

Three times is a pattern.

Completely opposite.

Self is the goods, and Collins, while very solid, is overrated by many.

Reerun_KC

03-20-2010, 06:04 PM

I'm not doin' it. I love those two guys

I love those guys... But damn Coach Self didnt adjust at all today...

Pants

03-20-2010, 06:04 PM

MVC got no love this year. I thought it was bias at first but after WSU lost in the NIT to Nevada (they split with UNI and got second in the Valley and the Valley Tournament to UNI) I have to agree with UNI's seed. KU just looked awful today. Self got out coached too.

I don't think Self got outcoached. We played like shit and UNI straight up beat us. It's life, oh well. Still feels surreal as hell.

Oh well, it's up to the Morrii to lead us to the promise land now. Don't think we'll have as good a chance as we had this year for a while though. Ugh.

Brainiac

03-20-2010, 06:04 PM

the only good season is a championship season
Give it a rest dude. I don't know what school you are a fan of, but I guarantee that you'd jizz in your pants to have a coach like Bill Self coaching your team.

loce1959

03-20-2010, 06:04 PM

I am very glad to see the Bill Self has brought back the KU tradition of getting knocked out in the second round by a team that is much less talented than they are. Add them to the list.

Maybee this will convince X and Cole to give it one more go.
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Hope so !

Pitt Gorilla

03-20-2010, 06:06 PM

I'd also like to thank those asshole KU fans at Chuck E. Cheese today (in C.F.) who wore their KU crap and made disparaging remarks to my son (in his Panther gear). Karma, bitches.

DaneMcCloud

03-20-2010, 06:06 PM

Give it a rest dude. I don't know what school you are a fan of, but I guarantee that you'd jizz in your pants to have a coach like Bill Self coaching your team.

Um, probably unlike most of the KU fans in this forum, I actually ATTENDED KU and have in the past, donated money to the university.

Can you say the same?

You're not such a Brainiac now, n00b.

Guru

03-20-2010, 06:06 PM

I thought Patriots fans booing Brady was bad, KU fans hating on Self and Collins should immediately hang themselves in an autoerotic accident.
Posted via Mobile DeviceWho is hating? I am just pointing a finger at the fact he allowed this team to drag their feet against an opponent that was extremely dangerous.

ArrowheadHawk

03-20-2010, 06:06 PM

Maybe the better team today. Go Tigers!!

The better team most definatly did not win today.
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ChiefaRoo

03-20-2010, 06:07 PM

Just be glad Memphis couldn't make a single FT in the last 3 minutes of the game.

SLEEPER CELL LMAO

DaneMcCloud

03-20-2010, 06:07 PM

Completely opposite.

Self is the goods, and Collins, while very solid, is overrated by many.

Oh, I just meant in regards to the fans booing.

I think it's lame they boo'd Collins.

Self, I completely understand.

Pitt Gorilla

03-20-2010, 06:07 PM

MVC got no love this year. I thought it was bias at first but after WSU lost in the NIT to Nevada (they split with UNI and got second in the Valley and the Valley Tournament to UNI) I have to agree with UNI's seed. KU just looked awful today. Self got out coached too.WSU bowed out in the first round of the NIT AT HOME. They didn't deserve a bid, IMO.

CoMoChief

03-20-2010, 06:07 PM

That 3 with 35 sec left made me want to puke.

Another Bill Self choke job. If it weren't for the 08 Title his ass would be fired for this.

Marking #5 on my most hated players list along with Jerry McNamara, and Miles Simon

Brainiac

03-20-2010, 06:08 PM

Um, probably unlike most of the KU fans in this forum, I actually ATTENDED KU and have in the past, donated money to the university.

Can you say the same?

You're not such a Brainiac now, n00b.
I'm glad to hear that. Now you need to realize that they lost a tough game. That doesn't make Self a bad coach.

Billay

03-20-2010, 06:08 PM

They boo'd Collins?

Reaper16

03-20-2010, 06:08 PM

Self didn't lose this game. Collins and Taylor going like 0-for-12 or some shit behind the arc, the team only making 6 out of 23 3-point attempts, lost this game. KU is normally a very nice 3-ball team, but not today.

'grats, KU. You lost today the way Mizzou usually loses.

Guru

03-20-2010, 06:08 PM

I love those guys... But damn Coach Self didnt adjust at all today...Pretty much like Roy always did. Or didn't.

Buehler445

03-20-2010, 06:08 PM

God I'm so fucking pissed right now. I'm not even pissed at UNI. They're a good team. I'm just pissed that KU sleepwalked through the first half and just generally played like they were going to get a win handed to them just because they had KANSAS written across their jersey.

KU deserves every bit of shit that is about to get thrown their way.

This.

It didn't freaking matter. You can't sleepwalk all the fucking time. Eventually it was going to catch up with them. Hopefully the young guys can take a lesson from this. It sucks ass though. The probability of winning the big one without Sherron and probably Cole drops dramatically.

Pitt Gorilla

03-20-2010, 06:08 PM

The better team most definatly did not win today.
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Mr. Arrowhead

03-20-2010, 06:08 PM

MVC bitches!!!!

ROYC75

03-20-2010, 06:08 PM

To my Jayhawk brethren, let the rivals enjoy it, they just won their National Champinship. :D

As Forrest says, It happens !

ChiefaRoo

03-20-2010, 06:09 PM

WSU bowed out in the first round of the NIT AT HOME. They didn't deserve a bid, IMO.

I still love Collins. But he was a big reason for the loss today. Facts are facts. Self is still a great coach but he let the pressure get to his team. I don't know if he could have done something different to change that.

ragedogg69

03-20-2010, 06:09 PM

speaking as a loyal Jayhawk fan, that message board is a useless cesspool, even under the best of circumstances.

all scout.com message boards are.

CoMoChief

03-20-2010, 06:09 PM

Another thing was they were getting a SHIT TON of long offensive rebounds. They would clank off the rim and over all of KU's players in the paint. Can't do anything about that.

Baby Lee

03-20-2010, 06:09 PM

Collins with the worst game of his career didn't help.
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Reminds me of Marino getting blasted 50-0 in his final playoff push.

WilliamTheIrish

03-20-2010, 06:09 PM

Tough break, fellas.

HC_Chief

03-20-2010, 06:10 PM

Maybee this will convince X and Cole to give it one more go.
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Don't hold your breath.

Those two are long gone already. $3.2mil /per @3yrs minimum.

Brainiac

03-20-2010, 06:10 PM

This.

It didn't freaking matter. You can't sleepwalk all the ****ing time. Eventually it was going to catch up with them. Hopefully the young guys can take a lesson from this. It sucks ass though. The probability of winning the big one without Sherron and probably Cole drops dramatically.

The Jayhawks had their best run of the game when Sherron and Cole were on the bench. They are great players, but the team will be fine next year with the players who are coming back.

BWillie

03-20-2010, 06:10 PM

I love those guys... But damn Coach Self didnt adjust at all today...

Nope. He didn't. He's stubborn sometimes. He's a great coach even still w/ his system. I said at the 10 minute mark of the first half, hell, before the game we need to full court trap them. You lose to a team like that because they limit possessions and then have an aberration of making some three point shots. That is what happened.

Look what happened when we full court pressed them at the end. We got some turnovers........shoulda done it all game. Should have done it against Bucknell, Tennessee, SIU, and now UNI.

But even w/ that said. Self won a championship. Self has been a great coach since he was at Tulsa. He just needs to adjust to teams play a largely contrasting style. The same that Roy needs to do when he has teams that can't play his game.

There are coaches that are better recruiters than Self, and worse in-game coaches. There are coaches that are worse recruiters, and better in-game coaches than Self. But I still don't think you are going to find a coach that is a way above avg recruiter, way above avg in game coach, and a great ambassador for the game for the university as coach Self

Pitt Gorilla

03-20-2010, 06:10 PM

Another thing was they were getting a SHIT TON of long offensive rebounds. They would clank off the rim and over all of KU's players in the paint. Can't do anything about that.LMAO at COMO.

Silock

03-20-2010, 06:10 PM

Not making free throws down the stretch cost us the game. We could have tied the game late if we made them.

CoMoChief

03-20-2010, 06:10 PM

Scoreboard.

Did you even read his post?

ChiefaRoo

03-20-2010, 06:10 PM

Another thing was they were getting a SHIT TON of long offensive rebounds. They would clank off the rim and over all of KU's players in the paint. Can't do anything about that.

BS, KU got out hustled. That's how you get long rebounds.

luv

03-20-2010, 06:11 PM

Um, probably unlike most of the KU fans in this forum, I actually ATTENDED KU and have in the past, donated money to the university.

Can you say the same?

You're not such a Brainiac now, n00b.

:clap:

DaneMcCloud

03-20-2010, 06:11 PM

I'm glad to hear that. Now you need to realize that they lost a tough game. That doesn't make Self a bad coach.

It's a game that they should have never been in a position to lose.

The blame lies in Self's lap.

Just like Bradley.

Just like Bucknell.

As I mentioned hours ago in this thread, Self has a real problem motivating and game planning for smaller schools with less talented players.

Silock

03-20-2010, 06:11 PM

Don't hold your breath.

Those two are long gone already. $3.2mil /per @3yrs minimum.

Sucks that we're losing Cole, but GOOD that X is gone. Most overhyped player EVER. That being said, if he came back, he'd probably be phenomenal next year.

Billay

03-20-2010, 06:12 PM

When did they boo Collins?

|Zach|

03-20-2010, 06:12 PM

To my Jayhawk brethren, let the rivals enjoy it, they just won their National Champinship. :D

As Forrest says, It happens !

False.

And when does Forrest say "It happens"

ChiefaRoo

03-20-2010, 06:12 PM

Tough break, fellas.

Well Bill. Looks like I'm rooting for the kitties and that psycho Frank Martin.

Silock

03-20-2010, 06:12 PM

I wonder how this will affect recruiting next year.

Brainiac

03-20-2010, 06:12 PM

It's a game that they should have never been in a position to lose.

The blame lies in Self's lap.

Just like Bradley.

Just like Bucknell.

As I mentioned hours ago in this thread, Self has a real problem motivating and game planning for smaller schools with less talented players.
So are you saying Self has flaws, or are you saying that you'd fire him if you could?

If you could fire him, who would you replace him with?

Pants

03-20-2010, 06:13 PM

BS, KU got out hustled. That's how you get long rebounds.

They certainly got out hustled on a few, most of them, though, they honestly had no chance with.

Lzen

03-20-2010, 06:13 PM

Just be glad Memphis couldn't make a single FT in the last 3 minutes of the game.

That's not exactly true. But we are glad that they reverted to their normal form from the whole season and missed a few FTs down the stretch. But KU still had to make a lot of plays to send it to OT. Add to that the fact that KU was ahead for a lot of that game and it wasn't as bad as you try to make it. Nice try, though.

memyselfI

03-20-2010, 06:14 PM

Reminds me of Marino getting blasted 50-0 in his final playoff push.

That was sweet though. This is not. :D

Billay

03-20-2010, 06:14 PM

False.

And when does Forrest say "It happens"

lol @ beakers quoting Forrest.

Al Bundy

03-20-2010, 06:14 PM

Collins with the worst game of his career didn't help.
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Did he foul out?

CoMoChief

03-20-2010, 06:14 PM

BS, KU got out hustled. That's how you get long rebounds.

hustling has nothing to do with the ball bouncing off the rim over your head.

Reerun_KC

03-20-2010, 06:14 PM

So are you saying Self has flaws, or are you saying that you'd fire him if you could?

If you could fire him, who would you replace him with?

What moron would want Coach Self gone?

Pants

03-20-2010, 06:15 PM

I wonder how this will affect recruiting next year.

Well, Selby, our front-runner to replace Sherron, apparently put a lot of stock into the tournament.

I honestly feel the worst for Sherron, he probably won't forgive himself for quite a while

BWillie

03-20-2010, 06:15 PM

BS, KU got out hustled. That's how you get long rebounds.

You also lose long rebounds because of errant three point shots. UNI shot a ton of three point shots. Alot of people don't like to accept the fact that chance is a huge part of athletics in the best of one game series. When has the best team NOT won the NBA championship? It's been a while. That is why they play a best of series. In the NCAA, they don't do that. That is why it is one of a kind and it is so popular.

As a NCAA basketball fan, I appreciate that. As a KU fan, I hate it. Because if we would have the BCS system, KU would have 5-6 national titles in the last 20 years instead of two.

ArrowheadHawk

03-20-2010, 06:15 PM

Scoreboard.

So the best team always scores the most points? You are a moran.
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Buehler445

03-20-2010, 06:15 PM

I still love Collins. But he was a big reason for the loss today. Facts are facts. Self is still a great coach but he let the pressure get to his team. I don't know if he could have done something different to change that.

I love Collins too. Last year sucks ass without Sherron. This year has several losses also. Sucks that he has to go out like this.

I think Self should have went to the press at half or 10 min left in the first half.

Nope. He didn't. He's stubborn sometimes. He's a great coach even still w/ his system. I said at the 10 minute mark of the first half, hell, before the game we need to full court trap them. You lose to a team like that because they limit possessions and then have an aberration of making some three point shots. That is what happened.

Look what happened when we full court pressed them at the end. We got some turnovers........shoulda done it all game. Should have done it against Bucknell, Tennessee, SIU, and now UNI.

But even w/ that said. Self won a championship. Self has been a great coach since he was at Tulsa. He just needs to adjust to teams play a largely contrasting style. The same that Roy needs to do when he has teams that can't play his game.

There are coaches that are better recruiters than Self, and worse in-game coaches. There are coaches that are worse recruiters, and better in-game coaches than Self. But I still don't think you are going to find a coach that is a way above avg recruiter, way above avg in game coach, and a great ambassador for the game for the university as coach Self

I can't disagree with any of this.

ChiefaRoo

03-20-2010, 06:15 PM

They certainly got out hustled on a few, most of them, though, they honestly had no chance with.

I think Taylor, Collins and Henry really got outplayed today by UNI's guards. KU's bigs were better but it wasn't enough against a team that has their 7' Center shoot threes. By the way every big man in the Valley shoots 3's. Indiana State makes a living doing it.

Silock

03-20-2010, 06:16 PM

Well, Selby, our front-runner to replace Sherron, apparently put a lot of stock into the tournament.

:sigh:

|Zach|

03-20-2010, 06:16 PM

So the best team always scores the most points? You are a moran.
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You were doing better complaining about the seed of the team that just beat you dude.

BWillie

03-20-2010, 06:17 PM

It's a game that they should have never been in a position to lose.

The blame lies in Self's lap.

Just like Bradley.

Just like Bucknell.

As I mentioned hours ago in this thread, Self has a real problem motivating and game planning for smaller schools with less talented players.

You attended KU? Wow. You are one sorry ass fan. Terrible. And any other KU fans, if you blame Collins or any of these kids because they didn't "try hard enough". That is complete bullshit. Shit happens. Get over it. Accept it. It's the NCAA Crapshoot tournament.

Goldmember

03-20-2010, 06:17 PM

i knew Obama was wrong about some stuff but DAMN!

That dumbass jinxed them

Billay

03-20-2010, 06:17 PM

So when did the fans boo Collins?

kysirsoze

03-20-2010, 06:17 PM

False.

And when does Forrest say "It happens"

Bumper Sticker Guy: [running after Forrest] Hey man! Hey listen, I was wondering if you might help me. 'Cause I'm in the bumper sticker business and I've been trying to think of a good slogan, and since you've been such a big inspiration to the people around here I thought you might be able to help me jump into - WOAH! Man, you just ran through a big pile of dog shit!

Forrest Gump: It happens.

Bumper Sticker guy: What, shit?

Forrest Gump: Sometimes.

Baby Lee

03-20-2010, 06:17 PM

Did he foul out?

Nah, just threw up 0-eleventy billion at the 3-pt line and kept driving straight into the doughy midsection of the ghost of Jake Blues.

On the brighter side, he now has a shit ton of stories to tell that'll sell a shit ton of Ford Festivas one day.

Sure-Oz

03-20-2010, 06:18 PM

You attended KU? Wow. You are one sorry ass fan. Terrible. And any other KU fans, if you blame Collins or any of these kids because they didn't "try hard enough". That is complete bullshit. Shit happens. Get over it. Accept it. It's the NCAA Crapshoot tournament.

it was fucking NORTHERN IOWA versus the best fucking team in the country. i'd be fucking pissed if i were you at the players and that coach not getting them to be ready, they had all fucking game to do the press.

|Zach|

03-20-2010, 06:18 PM

Bumper Sticker Guy: [running after Forrest] Hey man! Hey listen, I was wondering if you might help me. 'Cause I'm in the bumper sticker business and I've been trying to think of a good slogan, and since you've been such a big inspiration to the people around here I thought you might be able to help me jump into - WOAH! Man, you just ran through a big pile of dog shit!

Forrest Gump: It happens.

Bumper Sticker guy: What, shit?

Forrest Gump: Sometimes.

Ah yes. Nice. You really brought the info on that. Hahah

DeezNutz

03-20-2010, 06:18 PM

Oh, I just meant in regards to the fans booing.

I think it's lame they boo'd Collins.

Self, I completely understand.

My mistake.

I can understand this. Generally, I don't ever agree with booing amateur athletes.

Reaper16

03-20-2010, 06:18 PM

You attended KU? Wow. You are one sorry ass fan. Terrible. And any other KU fans, if you blame Collins or any of these kids because they didn't "try hard enough". That is complete bullshit. Shit happens. Get over it. Accept it. It's the NCAA Crapshoot tournament.
lol @ crapshoot tournament. Spoken as if you were a BCS advocate.

Brainiac

03-20-2010, 06:18 PM

What moron would want Coach Self gone?
I know a KU graduate who is such a moron that he hates Bill Self. I was just trying to find out if Dane thinks that way too.

chiefsfan987

03-20-2010, 06:18 PM

This.

It didn't freaking matter. You can't sleepwalk all the ****ing time. Eventually it was going to catch up with them. Hopefully the young guys can take a lesson from this. It sucks ass though. The probability of winning the big one without Sherron and probably Cole drops dramatically.

As much as I love my hawks I think most of us knew this was how the season was going to end. You can't sleepwalk as through the game as many times as this team did this season and not expect it to happen in this type of atmosphere.

ChiefaRoo

03-20-2010, 06:19 PM

hustling has nothing to do with the ball bouncing off the rim over your head.

I disagree. You're bigs block out but your guards have to rebound then instead of trying to do the runout. KU's guards wanted to score more than rebound on D. It cost them big time on the O boards.

StcChief

03-20-2010, 06:19 PM

term is outplayed. outcoached. 20 pts on turn-overs.

Lzen

03-20-2010, 06:19 PM

collins? that's plain dumb.

self? that's completely understandable.

the guy regularly collapses in the tournament.

Once is an abberation.

Twice is a concern.

Three times is a pattern.

I don't know. I mean, if he didn't have that title I would probably agree. But that championship in 08 makes a big difference. I guess if this kind of thing continues then you can say that. But I'm not ready to make that leap. Self is hardly responsible for his team leader playing like dog shit today. I mean, Collins was terrible in about every way imaginable.

Pants

03-20-2010, 06:19 PM

I think Taylor, Collins and Henry really got outplayed today by UNI's guards. KU's bigs were better but it wasn't enough against a team that has their 7' Center shoot threes. By the way every big man in the Valley shoots 3's. Indiana State makes a living doing it.

Didn't they say he was 11% for the year (1-9)? Wouldn't really call that 3-point shooting, but whatever.