Isn't the cropping or docking done before you would normally select a puppy? I understand refusing to buy from a breder who insists on it no matter what, but if its done early, how would you know which puppy you want to say . . . don't do that one?

Isn't the cropping or docking done before you would normally select a puppy? I understand refusing to buy from a breder who insists on it no matter what, but if its done early, how would you know which puppy you want to say . . . don't do that one?

Good point. As far as my understanding goes, the docking is done at 3 days old along with the dew claws. So in my mind a good breeder isn't going to have matched the dogs up with the owners yet (they don't even have personalities nevermind any sort of conformation). The cropping is done later so the new owner can decide on that.

I think this topic has been done to death but still, I disagree with both unless the dog is doing a job in which tails/ears could easily become damaged if not cropped or docked. I don't think "tradition" or "looks" cut it with this argument.

I do dewclaws...so I hardly think saying I am against docks/crops is anything other than hypocritical..so I am not.

I do not choose to dock or crop, so I chose a breed where that is not necessary. What I do not like is when people decide they like a breed...most times based on the appearance of the breed...then complain about practices within a breed, to gain the appearance they like.

If that bothered you there were over 200 OTHER breeds to choose from.

It should be done by someone who knows what they are about...esp ears, minimizing pain to the dog whenever possible. But the horror stories out there about it...*eye roll*

I am 100***37; for the right for people to choose whether they want to dock and crop.

If I was to get a breed that was traditionally cropped and I liked the cropped look (like a doberman) I would get a cropped dog through rescue, I'm too lazy to want to deal with all the posting and such myself