Monday, March 2, 2015

Last time on Celebrity Apprentice! The teams had a whale of a good time doing tours for Circle Line, and the announcer, you know that guy who pronounces Kate's name Goz-land, lol, is loving the maritime puns too. Who doesn't? Kenya and Geraldo were both awkward on their tours, but Geraldo was awkwarder, so Sig's team lost and Sig had to be fired. On the second task, Kate was PM, and Vivica and Kenya couldn't stop fighting. You know how when a fight goes on so long you can't even remember what started it? That's what's happening here. I really can't remember why it is Vivica hates Kenya and Kenya hates Vivica. Or maybe we never really saw what instigated it. In any case, their feud only seems to be getting worse. This all really distracted Doofus, who for some reason couldn't just ignore it or tell them to knock it off and get back to work. In the boardroom it kind of looked like Kate might slither by again because Kenya and Vivica couldn't stop whining about how much the other one sucked and both of them forgot about their common enemy, Kate, but mercifully, Trump fired Kate after all. They don't really show this in the brief recap, but that whole scene was hysterical in the sense that Kate really believed she didn't have a chance of going home. She just kept bobbling and pointing her thumb over at Vivica and Kenya the whole time, sort of like, see what I mean? Lol. She was certain either Vivica or Kenya would go, completely oblivious to the fact that they are both infinitely smarter and stronger players than she ever was. She never once believed she was also an option. If there's one thing she's excellent at, it's creating her own fantasy of how things are and will be, and believing it full throttle.

I guess sometimes that sort of attitude works for people, like believing you can become a doctor or win an Olympic medal or an Oscar and then making it happen. But it sure is funny to watch Kate employ it in such a delusional manner and then fall flat on her face lol.

Back in the suites everyone is so distracted by Kenya! They can't stop talking about her. Kate was born lucky. Of course there is a diva and narcissist bigger than her on her season everyone is gunning for instead of Kate. Ian admits Kenya's actually a strong player but there's too much drama with Brandi which slows things down. It seems to me many of them think they'd be better off without her. Haha, Brandi's face says it all when she sees Kenya's still here. Lol.

I think it's inappropriate that Geraldo says he felt like he was in Afghanistan in that boardroom. I mean, a whole lot of good men and women died there. But Geraldo doesn't seem to ever understand why something he says, or does, might be inappropriate or insensitive. That's just Geraldo.

Lol, "to Kate Plus 8," they all say as they toast with their wine and champagne. I find that rather amusing in the sense that it's true, she's nothing if she's just Kate. She's Kate plus eight. Her whole identity is wrapped up in that branding.

You know I hate to say it, but even though a few people really couldn't stand Kate, like the awesome trifecta of Brandi, Vivica and Kenya, it seems like most of the rest of the players didn't really mind her, or were at least indifferent. I think though that could be more because they didn't see her as much of a threat or competition. There were bigger fish to worry about it. Kate was superfluous in their minds, mostly harmless. She wasn't going to win a task for them of course, but she usually wasn't going to cause a bunch of problems either, with a few rare exceptions. She'd go eventually, so there was no harm in dragging her along. (But as I said in my last recap, be careful with that mindset!)

Awesome, they're in the International Center of Photography. Photography is one of my great passions. Dare I say photography right now has never been more exciting. What is so incredible about photography in 2015, and one reason I love it so much, is it's one of the few art forms where once you buy the initial equipment, it doesn't cost hardly anything to practice with it. You could shoot 1,000 photos a day and play with Photoshop and Adobe Lightroom for eight hours every day for a ten buck a month subscription, the same as Netflix. So people are getting a ton of practice in, like they never did before with film because nobody could afford to process 1,000 negatives. As a result, people are getting good. I mean, really freaking good. There are so many folks I could recommend to you, but if I had to pick just one I'd say check out Marc Adamus. He's a young guy, been shooting about ten years, and he's practiced so much between his shooting and Photoshop he's become a real magician. I just love his work.

As for me, I've been at it about two, maybe three years. I'm nowhere near Marc's level, but it's exciting to look at my work at the beginning compared to now and see my growth. Here's one of mine I'm proud of, at this lovely little beach called Hermosa last weekend.

Anyway, this is cool, they're going to create a photograph and hashtag campaign for King's Hawaiian, including shots of New York. NYC is very photogenic, so this should be all fun. I'm not really into King's breads, they're too soft for me. I know, I know, that's what she said. I actually really can't stand them, mostly because of the texture. But I know people absolutely obsessed with the bread, who won't throw a party without them. They're super popular on the West Coast, there's like half a grocery aisle devoted to their products in every store.

Johnny and Kenya will be PMs. Lol, Kenya. This should be good.

Johnny says he wants to step up to win more money for his charity. You know, I believe him, and I like him. I don't recall very many other contestants as focused on why they are really here as Johnny is. Certainly never Kate.

Lol, Brandi thinks Ian is stuck in the 80's with his stupid slogan ideas. Johnny quickly goes with Brandi's idea of "rise to the occasion." That's somewhat clever. As clever as you usually see on this show. Always smarter to go with Brandi over Ian anyhow.

Ian thinks a cool thing to do is have the Statute of Liberty clutching some bread. Oh, I thought she had gone low carb. Ian knows somebody who has a helicopter to get this done. Of course he does. He knows everybody. He knows somebody in just about every profession there ever was, and he has their cell numbers. Johnny is just sort of cracking up. I know, it's just funny. Where did he meet all these people? He sounds like an expert schmoozer. You know the type who won't leave the party without taking to every single person and getting their contact info, just in case 20 years down the line he needs a helicopter. Few others have the sort of energy for such things, but Ian is a robot so that's not an issue.

Kenya and Vivica are still talking about the boardroom from earlier. Lol. Remarkably, the girls agree to wipe the slate clean, although Vivica says she doesn't buy it. Kenya has a super risky concept that kind of grosses me out, about superimposing the buns on a model's butt cheeks. Geraldo suggests Kenya be one of the models. Eww. Kenya is like, uh, yeah, no. Lol. Kenya now wants to put a baby in the ad, who I guess is sort of hormonal or something and wants him some butt buns. Geraldo hates that idea, and he's the king of bad ideas. Right? It's weird!

Johnny and Ian take their helicopter ride to take photos of the city. Speaking for nerdy photographers, this is an awful day for photos. It's way too sunny and bright out, the sky is a boring flat blue, and they're shooting in the middle of the day when it's really contrasty, a big no-no. Most real photographers wouldn't bother to go out today, or would have tried it at sunrise or sunset. But they're under such severe time constraints they don't have a choice. Ian as usual can't believe how amazing he is to have arranged all this.

Timelapse guy, however, knows what he's doing and can go out under the best conditions for incredible shots, and he got a sweet timelapse of Central Park under big puffy cotton ball clouds that they splice in as we cut to Kenya's team. Kenya is just recruiting models right off the street. Lol, that's awkward. In the past I seem to remember Celebrity Apprentice would pull models from a local talent agency. What happened to that? Kenya doesn't seem to be mentioning to any of these people they intend to superimpose buns on their buns. You might want to bring that up before they sign on.

Kenya tells Vivica that Vivica's not fit enough to be one of the models. Haha, Kenya! She makes Vivica hold her jacket and purse. Vivica's face, hehe. F--- ety F----! is Vivica's answer to this. Ha, she's losing it.

This is the most awkward, stupidest photoshoot ever. In one of the scenes a couple walks by Kenya and the guy's head turns to look at Kenya's butt. In another there's a toddler in a stroller and Vivica sitting in front of him. It's all just so odd. And how did we go from Vivica not allowed to be in the shoot f--ety f--- to Vivica front and center? Again the quick editing is leaving out huge important chunks of information.

"Coat!" Kenya cries. Lol, Vivica runs over and covers her majesty up so she doesn't get herself all chilly. Vivica feels unappreciated, as assistants often tend to.

Over at Johnny's team, they're photoshopping the cityscape shots. They're squabbling over the hashtags, Leeza says they are not mentioning King's Hawaiian enough, both in the hashtags and on the bread in the photos. She's really fighting for this, which is a nice change from when before she's sort of looked the other way when things went wrong. It's too late in the game to let stuff like that go, she's playing this game just right. You have to fight and stand your ground at this stage or you're done. Diplomacy won't work at this hour.

Over at Team Diva, Vivica can't find her phone anywhere. She doesn't understand this, as she had just set it right down on the table and now it disappeared. Lol, I see where this one is going. Vivica is very distracted, thinking about all the contacts and personal info on her phone. I think it must be different to lose your phone as a celeb. You and all your celebrity friends could be the next big news story if the right person gets into it, which wouldn't happen if you or I lost our phones. Everyone should both lock their phone with a password and learn how you can swipe your iphone clear remotely with a computer if you ever lose it. Still, with today's smart hackers I can see how she would be worried anyway. I know what eventually happened here, Kenya stole the phone and tweeted from it. Kenya absolutely should not have done that and in fact was breaking the law in so doing it, but this whole thing could have been avoided if Vivica simply password protected her phone.

When they actually superimpose the buns on the models, it looks even stupider than some of them originally thought. Both Geraldo and Vivica think they should scrap that dumb idea. "Edgy" is putting it mildly, Geraldo.

Kenya's getting violent now, threatening to back that infamous bus over Vivica a hundred times until Vivica is crying out in agony every bone in her body broken begging her to please show her mercy.

Mercy, mercy! Then, Kenya will cremate her and add her ashes to a box of cat litter. Whoa. This feud just took a rather creepy turn. Vivica is now certain her phone was stolen. I think she would be right about that if I do say so myself!

Commercials. H&R Block is using the same "Money" song used in the Apprentice credits and their guy sort of shouts in much the same way Trump does.

Trump was upset about this. Because apparently if he pays for the rights to use a song way back in 2004, nobody else can do the same ten years later. And also nobody else is allowed to shout or they are clearly impersonating him. Last month, he told Block they suck for doing this. Leave it to Trump to be this immature. I think it's funny that this Block commercial is now running during Trump's show. Sort of a nice little F-U. Well played.

Johnny spends a long time explaining why he left the presenting to Leeza, but that needs no explanation. Why is Johnny's suitcoat 3 sizes too big? Or is that a jacket? Their project is badly photoshopped but it's rather cute, especially the one where Leeza and Brandi are sailing away on a bun balloon. I don't understand the buns on the building under construction. Buns are so light and flimsy, how would it support the structure? I'm overthinking this I'm sure.

Kenya presents, and goodness seeing it in front of the nice Hawaiian executives their concept seems even more embarrassing. One executive can hardly look at the baby one it's so awkward, hehe. Also, not really a baby. More like a toddler, which for some reason makes it seem weirder to me. Trump Jr. looks nauseous. I don't think the other team's concept was all that interesting either, but this is far worse.

Boardroom time. I hope we get to the bottom of cell phone gate soon, that's been the most interesting part of this episode so far.

I don't think Trump really was thinking about Leeza that much as a factor, but he has to admit he realizes everyone seems to think she's awesome. It's been obvious since the beginning she should make it to the end, glad to see he's caught up.

Rear ends are trendy on the internet-webs? I must be looking at a different internet-webs than Kenya. All I see is the great blue-black/gold-white debate on my internet-webs. (For the record, it's gold white!)

The executives liked Johnny's team and their skyline photos but felt the hashtags weren't on brand. They liked the viral characteristic of Kenya's campaign, but of course, they felt it wasn't family friendly and the baby thing was totally creepy. God, yes it was! Johnny's team wins it. It wasn't even close apparently. That's five wins in a row for that team.

Trump says Kenya really didn't help the losing team by going over there. Ouch. Vivica thinks Geraldo enabled Kenya and her bad ideas. The guy is kind of a bad idea magnet though.

Leeza and Ian are like, what were they thinking going sexy? This family company has been around for ages, if they ever wanted to sex things up they would have done so by now. Duh. What a stupid decision. Vivica thinks Kenya is toxic.

Geraldo breaks it down for Trump as if he's not completely crazy himself. Kenya's idea was crap, and Vivica didn't do much. Well, in fairness, it didn't seem like Kenya was really letting Vivica do anything. Vivica's still pissed that she was told she couldn't be a model. Lol, never poke a celeb's ego. You'll pay for it for days. Are these two girls too dumb to realize they could team up and get Geraldo fired? I mean everybody else has said they think he's the weak link, despite all his bluster. I'm starting to think they're right.

Kenya says Vivica tweeted the other day that she's going through menopause, so maybe that had something to do with her poor performance. Haha, Vivica freaks out, calling her a "dirty-ass bitch." That's a new one, and a good one. This is not the ghetto! Kenya insists.

That's the only place you'll be prevalent in, Vivica retorts. Oh shit. This is a knock down drag out. Don't hurt me, but a teeny, tiny part of me wishes Kate were still sitting here, just to see some good shocked and awed faces while this is all going down. It would really help round this all out. For some odd reason this doesn't seem to excite Trump Jr. too much. Rather he looks like he's struggling to stay awake.

Vivica has hit on Kenya's Achilles heel, and now just throws things out like "Ghetto Star." Lol. Both Leeza and Ian agree the menopause comment is way out of line.

Vivica says she did not tweet anything about menopause. Why isn't she mentioning that she couldn't have tweeted that because her phone has been stolen since at least yesterday? How long is it going to take these doofuses to realize that Kenya did it? It's so obvious, and it's taking forever for them to put two and two together. Kenya keeps bringing it up, made some mention of just starting to follow Vivica, and won't let it go. Wake up, she did it!

Vivica's like, wtf, I don't even tweet that often, I'm more of an Instagram girl. I know, Instagram is so much better!

By the way, how pathological do you have to be to assert that somebody tweeted something knowing full well that that person knows they never tweeted it and knows their phone was missing during that time period so it would be impossible to have tweeted that even if they wanted to? How did Kenya ever expect to pull this off?? Bizarre.

Trump says Kenya should prove it to him or be fired. But how would just showing him the tweet prove anything? Hey, this is a great example of a concept a lot of people don't understand about the court of law and proof. Having an email, or text, or tweet for that matter, unfortunately does not necessarily prove that the person it is "from" really was the person who sent it. Sometimes you can spend days in court trying to show that nobody else could have had access to that computer, or whatever, etc. It's super hard to demonstrate the sender is who it says it is, rendering such evidence useless sometimes even if common sense says they sent it.

Trump immediately cannot believe she would actually say that. Neither can the rest of America, there's just no way, even in a drunk text. I'm curious whether any of her twitter fans actually thought that was a real tweet. I'm betting many were skeptical, especially since it doesn't even sound like her.

Why does Kenya look so smug? She's gonna get caught with this, it's inevitable. If you're going to fake a tweet, at least make it credible. She insulted Vivica four times in the tweet, come on. Even Doofus would never be this dumb or do something this stupid, congratulations you even topped her. There's a line you can cross where being this nuts isn't fun anymore and becomes rather scary instead. Ian's brand of bananas is fun. Kenya's has long ago crossed the border into frightening land.

Vivica finally realizes oh wait my phone was stolen and "this low-down dirty bird" (lol, I love Vivica) must have taken it and tweeted from it!!! My God, took her long enough.

Geraldo has to back it up that yes her phone was stolen, and he realizes it too! The Trumps look like they're kind of buying this, thank God. Trump Jr. is smart in that he says he read some other tweets of Vivica's, which are indeed kind of sparse, and they're all about god bless you and positive shit like that. One of these things is not like the other, one of these things does not belong.

Kenya's all like come now, you can't be serious. Would little ole me do that??? Hehe.

Trump is totally buying this whole convoluted mess! So awesome! Trump and the Jr. are all like, well who else would do this? The tweet has grammatical errors for pity sake and doesn't really make sense. What did Kenya think, they were going to blame this on Geraldo? There's really no one else they could pin this on. She's so dumb.

Why is the other Trump Jr. not saying anything? He's totally mute this whole time. Maybe he's just popping the popcorn like I am now, drinking a soda.

Trump's all like, they lost because of you Kenya, you didn't help your team, and it's really serious if you stole her phone. Like, really serious. You're fired Kenya!

Good grief, I'm happier Kenya was fired than I was Kate was fired last week. Thank God.

Vivica cannot even look at her and literally gives her the hand and just tells her to "bounce."

Vivica, go file a police report. Seriously. You can't just steal somebody's phone. It's ridiculous and is breaking the law and psycho Kenya needs to be put in her place. What's more, she doesn't even have the phone back yet. It's still missing. Kenya still has it!

Kenya can't make eye contact as she says this accusation she stole the phone is the most ridiculous thing she ever heard. I agree, it's ridiculous in the sense that I can't believe you did that.

Haha, Geraldo's all like, oh my god, I can't believe this phone thing! That was like committing a crime! It's LIKE committing a crime?Geraldo, you're an attorney. Stealing is a crime. There is no special exception for Kenya, reality shows, or the Trump boardroom. She stole, plain and simple and Vivica should call the police, plain and simple. It was a freaking gift Vivica didn't have that nutjob arrested.

Haha, Vivica is so mad she's practically crying. Dirty trick! she exclaims. She and Geraldo are being so loud in the hallway Brandi can hear them, and immediately begins rejoicing that her nemesis is gone. Hehe!

The winners also can't believe the phone thing.

"What's next, poison?" Geraldo says. No kidding! Geez! Easily one of the worst things that's ever happened on this show. Kenya was psycho, period. Also I resent her for making Kate look like a victim. She does not deserve such a gift.

Just a few final thoughts on Kenya. It's really sad that your self-esteem is so low that your only game plan on this show is to sabotage other contestants. She did it to Brandi, she did it to Vivica, and quite frankly she even went too far with Kate, taking completely unnecessary pot shots at her. It's desperate and unoriginal. Did it ever occur to Kenya that menopause is not too far away for herself? She's forty-four, she has only five to ten years left before she's going down that road. How would she feel to be made fun of this brutally? Kenya was not a bad player. She had decent ideas and she worked hard. What is missing inside of you that you can't just rely on those strengths like Leeza or Brandi do, and forget all this drama? What a sad little woman. Goodbye, Kenya.

Next up, they're going to be making a jingle for Anheuser Busch's lime drinks. The legend Joan Rivers is back!

Trump switches Leeza over to Geraldo and Vivica's team. I'd like to think this show isn't scripted but I know that's not always true, and knowing the outcome, this already looks like a set-up to be able to get rid of a bunch of weaker players at once so we can get down to business with the finals. Leeza feels pressure to help the team win. It will be Leeza and Brandi as PMs. Aw, that stinks since they both work so well together. They have a genuine friendship, says Brandi. But they'll be mature about this competition, so that's fine and I'm sure it won't come between them.

Predictably, Geraldo has bad ideas. Leeza steers him onto more of a sports style jingle and pitches much better ideas of her own. Geraldo seems upset her idea is not Latino or about Rita. Rita? Oh, Lime-a-rita. Cute. Leeza says no, we need to focus on coming up with a jingle you can't get out of your head. Yes, exactly. I don't like jingles and I watch as few commercials as possible, I even usually mute them if I can't fast forward them, but she's right that a jingle should get stuck in your head. I remember this one jingle or song from years ago for SmartforLife, a company that looks slightly shady or gimmicky, and my God, I'm still singing that thing today. They borrowed the line "who stole a cookie from the cookie jar" from a classic children's song, but they sang it in a way that made it stick to your head like superglue. I even sang it to my dog once like a total freak. It's just bad.

Leeza finally borrows one of Geraldo's lines about it being nice over ice, praising him profusely for it, which seems to appease him.

Ian requires absolute silence for his brilliance to flow. Lol, Brandi says they can't talk when "the Lord" is speaking, tee-hee.

I am still debating whether Ian just created this narcissistic, ego-maniac nutjob character for this show as some kind of bizarre self-marketing strategy to get people talking about him I guess, or if this is how he really is. I'm leaning more toward the former after he made a few over the top comments last week that I can't possibly believe he really feels. If it is in fact the former, it could just be one of the most brilliant things anyone has ever done on this show to draw attention to themselves. I mean, he gets more airtime every time he acts like a freak, and it gets viewers talking. About him. Otherwise he could end up kind of forgettable like Johnny, bless his heart.

After all of the Lord our father in heaven's efforts, Brandi and Johnny hate his ideas. The composer, engineer and musicians arrive. Johnny apparently is a musician and has a lot of music friends and is trying to come up with something good, but Ian butts in with another dumb idea to the tune of La Cucaracha. Brandi is really getting annoyed with Ian, to the point where she has to give him something to keep him busy to get him out of her hair. Brandi says Ian is great at everything all in his little head. Lol, he does literally have a little head when most celebs have big ones, which makes him look out of place.

As for Ian, he thinks Brandi is indecisive. He has misinterpreted Brandi trying not to piss him off as indecisiveness.

Things are really flowing at Leeza's team. Their jingle is working. Except for Geraldo. He keeps pushing his ideas, which are totally different than what the girls are working on.

Why in the world is Geraldo bringing up his war correspondent experience again? It really has nothing to do with anything this time, and just sounds like more name-dropping from him, which is getting really obnoxious. He keeps pushing his dumb ideas which even the professional musicians are explaining to him would be really difficult to make work. Leeza calls him aggressive. She's finally had it with him and has to basically tell him NO to his bad ideas.

Brandi listens to both Johnny and Ian's jingles, and really likes Johnny's. But Ian starts pouting "like a little bitch" Brandi says, hehe. It's totally true, he's being a big baby. She finally loses it on him and calls him condescending and disrespectful. He starts insulting her performance, saying the only thing she's good at is using a pen to cross things out and has brought "zero" to this. Whoa, way out of line! This isn't Kate! How come Kate wasn't really picked on like this? How does she get away with everything? Brandi has experience with cat fights and knows what she's doing. She tells him he needs to sit there and shut the F up. Hehe.

Geraldo finally seems to realize that hey, I've lost five tasks, I might as well let Leeza call the shots here and see if it goes any better than when I was running things. Fair enough. Their jingle turned out to be sort of a rap that isn't that bad, "mix it, love it, drink it up!" Vivica and Leeza are dancing like nobody's business. Hehe.

While Leeza's team seemed to have nailed things down, Brandi's team is floundering with absolutely ridiculous jingles that are more stupid and uninteresting than catchy. Johnny's jingle is a little better, sounds like something you might actually hear on a real commercial, but Ian hates it of course, shaking his head in disgust. Brandi says for sure they're going with Johnny's, it's sexy and creative. And there's nothing I-an can do about it, hehe. I think Ian is right that it's a little hard to understand the words, but that doesn't make the jingle worse than his idea.

Time for the presentations, and the choreography for Leeza's team is good, the jingle snazzy. Go, go, go Lime-a-rita or something like that. The executives including Joan and one of the Trump Jrs. seems to really enjoy this. Joan is clapping vigorously. Aw.

Brandi's team performs theirs. They aren't quite as into it as Leeza's team, and I have to admit it sounds rather wordy. The judges seem to like this one too. Johnny, bless his heart, has always reminded me of Curious George. There, I said it. Beautiful skyline sunset timelapse, photographers.

Geraldo and Vivica say Leeza was a real asset to their team. Of course she was, she's great, always has been. I have to say it makes me feel somewhat proud that I called this one so right. I shared in the first recap that I know friends of Leeza's. And I don't mean people that once met her at a party. I mean they're so close that they even have traveled abroad with her and their respective kids. Anyway, they say she's just a gem. It is nice to see their description of her validated episode after episode.

In her final act Joan Rivers really isn't getting much of an edit. She's barely said a thing this whole episode and is mostly just sitting there sometimes looking rather out of it. Kind of disappointing, I miss her zingers.

Oh Lord, Geraldo compares himself to Carmelo Anthony of the New York Knicks. Gimme a break, Geraldo. These questions are starting to get boring. Who cares what Leeza thinks of Geraldo? Of course she's going to say he's great. This team is too low drama and boring, hehe. Leeza says they were in an "emotional coma" after cell phone gate. Lol.

The questions to Brandi's team are equally boring. Trump, Johnny and Brandi look orange, and Ian looks pink and purple. Uh-oh, Johnny chokes when asked to sing his jingle. Brandi says she could sing it but she's a bad singer. I totally get that, it's obvious the whole singing thing has embarrassed her from the beginning and it would me too. I absolutely hate singing for others, I'm terrible and I won't do it. Ian retorts she should step up. The hell? Trump asked Johnny to sing it, not Brandi. Ian is being a baby who says he thinks they might have lost. Whatever. Even Trump seems to think that's a bit disloyal. Haha, Trump refuses to hear Ian sing his jingle. Exactly, what the heck does that matter?

Joan says the branding and ice in the jingle was good, but it was too wordy, which is what I said, and wasn't catchy. They also found "señorita" was too man-based when this brand is for both genders. I would have thought this brand was for women actually. Wine coolers usually are. Where I'm from if you're a man and drink this thing all your buddies will call you a wuss. But if they say it's for both that's what they should have targeted.

As for Leeza, the executives loved "nice over ice" and "for the thirsty in your life." Geraldo's ego explodes, as he came up with both of those ideas. There weren't any negatives! Wow! They win it of course. Because Leeza is all class and refuses to hold grudges, she pats Geraldo on the chest even though he was extremely disruptive to her on this task. She understands exactly how to handle Geraldo. She handles him in much the same way Kate did, lavishing him with praise and admiration. Except Kate really meant it, and was not smart enough to realize that as smart as he may be he has consistently been a disruption. Leeza's just stroking his ego to appease him because she's savvy.

I of course love Leeza's charity for caretakers of Alzheimer's, as that has affected my family very deeply. This money will allow her charity to open in her hometown, she says as she chokes up. This is where this show is about more than satisfying guilty pleasures, it's doing something really good for a lot of fine charities.

Brandi too is all class and says you really shouldn't fire Johnny, it should be Ian or myself. That's just being truthful. Some people hang onto their ethics during these shows to their own detriment, and I have to admit I wouldn't have expected that of Brandi. It's kind of a bummer they're going down in flames not because they didn't work as hard or as smart or as fast, but because one team wrote a better song. I mean, you can be the strongest candidate in the room but you might not be able to write a jingle and would fail this task. Is Trump really concerned about the winner's ability to write a jingle? Doesn't really seem fair, but then reality T.V. is not fair!

Brandi says Ian is disrespectful, to which Ian interrupts her by laughing, proving her point.

Ugh, normally Trump's chauvinism doesn't really bother me and as a working woman I tend to believe we see less chauvinism today than we ever did before. By no means do I witness it every day or even every month. Maybe once a year, tops. We have come a long way since the Mad Men days, and women my age should be appreciative of where we are and all the women before us who paved the way for a friendly workplace. But Trump says, nah, Ian's just very confident and doesn't suffer fools. Why is it if a business woman is disrespectful, it's disrespectful? But if a business man is disrespectful, that's not disrespect, that's just confidence and not suffering fools. It makes me so mad I could spit on that little pile of pee hair.

Ian is convinced his jingle would have won, and now Trump finally says fine, fine let's hear this so called winning jingle. Ian sings it. Trump is like WTF, that's La Cucaracha! WTF were you thinking you dummie, you can't just copy a song, it's not even legal! LOL! The last thing Ian wants to do is try to get Trump on board with ripping somebody else's idea off, not after H&R Block-gate. Ian says well I never intended to rip off La Cucaracha for that jingle, it was more like a springboard to other ideas. Yes, just like Sam Smith never intended to rip off Tom Petty, of course not! Snark! Trying to explain copyright laws to Ian is like trying to explain child support laws to a sheeple. Not gonna happen.

I am not at all surprised neither Trump nor Joan understand why the heck it matters that you had some song you couldn't use but that you were going to use that to springboard it into something you could use. That makes no sense whatsoever. Ian's completely batty and they finally realized it. I just love that Trump validates Brandi about Ian and so does Brandi apparently. Of course that's the dumbest idea ever. Thank you, Trump.

Am I going crazy here? Trump asks. At some point everyone who spends significant time around somebody as nuts as Ian asks that, it's normal.

Ian is gaslighting, now trying to claim that he never said they should use his jingle, oh, no, that's not what I meant. Except that he just said that and said that many times before. Shaking my head. I really wish he would fire Ian and only Ian, he's a freak who didn't help whatsoever on this task.

Brandi and Johnny try to leave but Trump tells them to sit down. Oh, no. He says he wants to fire somebody else. This is so unfair. Boo!

Brandi refuses to say anything bad about Johnny. She is willing to get fired refusing to throw that good man under the bus. Eric tries to help her saying what about the fact that Johnny wrote the jingle? Brandi says yes but I approved it. Johnny also won't say anything bad, says Brandi is a kind woman, they've been through so much and they'll be friends for life. Geez, I didn't know they were such good friends. I think that means a lot coming from him. I am pleased that credible people on this show really took to Brandi and count her as a real, serious good friend, as I always quite liked her. I love to be right about D list reality stars, my ego explodes like Geraldo.

Trump looks to Joan for help. Now what the hell do I do??

Joan's like hell if I know, lol. She says ultimately I guess it comes down to the PM, but this seems upsetting to her, she even says I can't deal with this. Wow. Brandi looks at Joan with respect and admiration and says she understands. Brandi, you are a class act.

Trump says Johnny is fired, and Brandi breaks into tears. Then two seconds later Trump says Brandi you are also fired. Oh no, what a tragedy.

Brandi and Johnny both seem very upset. They hug and tell each other it's all good. Aw.

How are they going to show all three of them in the car? They might kill each other.

Thankfully Ian got a separate car I guess and doesn't get to do his goodbye car scene. Haha, ignorant fool. Johnny and Brandi are in the same car together and say nice things like that they are so glad they met each other and it was great to help the charities. That's nice.

The other day I was reading Entertainment Weekly, which I get for free with my airline miles (this grifter can't beat a free deal!)and writer Dalton Ross called this show the "best bad show in the history of television." I concur. It's so bad it's good. I get sucked into the stupid drama with Vivica and Kenya or Brandi trying to manage crazy Ian. I like when Sig freaks out and almost punches his fist through a bar, or Shawn whines about her period only to have somebody bring that up in the boardroom, or Kate blows the whole thing by sitting her ass in hair and makeup all day. The tasks are quirky and fun. I love the Trumps and their weirdness, awkwardness, one-liners, slobbering, and occasional grace. I love Ivanka, Joan and George and the other eyes and ears. There is no other celebrity reality show as badly well done as this one. It's a shitshow, but it's a shitshow I want tickets to. Until next time.

Agree PJ. It should have been just Ian. Perhaps if Ian wasn't being such a freaking nuisance they could have focused on writing a better jingle.

Geraldo comes up with so many bad ideas yet somehow has an uncanny ability to make it seem like he's not the problem. He's very manipulative I think. He plays innocent even harder than Kate does. This episode was the first time it really started to get on my nerves.

I missed why the non-fans are boycotting Kate and the sheeple. I love when they do that. Just like last time it sounds totally dead! Keep it up folks!::::::::::

I missed that any of them were? When?

_____________________You blinked, you missed it. It didn't last that long. The non-fans and the sheeple need each other. Both are addicted; both are baited. For the love of all that's holy, I just can't understand that the non-fans can't see that when they are quiet, the TL is dead and the sheep talk to themselves. The haters play right into their hands and give them what they want. They are the ones keeping it alive and therefore,make the sheeple and Kate look like victims. Maybe they don't want Kate to fade away...I just don't know and I don't understand their obsession with taking sheeple bait.

"How long is it going to take these doofuses to realize that Kenya did it? It's so obvious, and it's taking forever for them to put two and two together. Kenya keeps bringing it up, made some mention of just starting to follow Vivica, and won't let it go. Wake up, she did it!"

THAT. Kenya not doing everything she could possibly think of to change the subject. This is where I became convinced the whole thing was completely scripted. As an ex-Miss Trumps' Universe, -or whatever-, she could have been on corporation payroll and in charge of putting a little excitement in a rather dull season due to the new format. That whole segment sounded terribly "amateur theaterish" to my ears...

Sherry (5): "You blinked, you missed it. It didn't last that long. The non-fans and the sheeple need each other. Both are addicted; both are baited. For the love of all that's holy, I just can't understand that the non-fans can't see that when they are quiet, the TL is dead and the sheep talk to themselves"

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Yes, it was quiet with Barbara's animal pictures and platitudes, along with occasional confusion about how many episodes there are and why it was such a short season.

But they're back and msgoody has reared her head (she's nuts, by the way), calling Robert and Jon hateful names and seeing nothing wrong with that. I think that in addition to hating men, she must have some mental health issue, such as schizophrenia, multiple personality, and maybe is not taking meds or refuses treatment. I just don't know. She scares me more than any of the other sheep, including Gladys.The doofism over there is alarming.

Hooray! Great recap admin, thank you! Now to switch topics: I am in search of the perfect cornbread recipe. One using corn meal, baked in an eight inch square pan, kinda like spoon bread in consistency. I'm trying to recreate my mother's recipe, when I used what I thought was her recipe it came out grainy. Any ideas? By the way, the banana bread I made using the Pioneer Woman recipe was terrific! Thanks for those who suggested it.

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Now to switch topics: I am in search of the perfect cornbread recipe. One using corn meal, baked in an eight inch square pan, kinda like spoon bread in consistency. I'm trying to recreate my mother's recipe, when I used what I thought was her recipe it came out grainy. Any ideas? By the way, the banana bread I made using the Pioneer Woman recipe was terrific! Thanks for those who suggested it.

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Yes, Joy. I have one that I use from the Mennonite Community Cookbook. I'll post it tomorrow.

THAT. Kenya not doing everything she could possibly think of to change the subject. This is where I became convinced the whole thing was completely scripted.

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I think you're onto something here.

The more I think about it the more I find it really strange that it took Vivica so long to realize Kenya did it. She's always so quick to blame Kenya for everything. Kenya has made jokes about her age before. Unless the whole thing was just so odd to her she couldn't think straight and put two and two together like she would if she weren't under such stress.

Also, did Vivica never find her phone? It's one thing to have it missing for an hour but the way they told it she never got it back. Was she likely to just say oh, well, time for the next task and not call the cops or at least insist production helps her find it? That's so weird. Phones are expensive and full of her information, it seems to me she would want it back and pronto.

I know these things are scripted, obviously. But not all of it is. It's just hard to tell what is and what isn't.

It's a shitshow, but it's a shitshow I want tickets to. Until next time.

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Enjoyed your recap Admin, it was worth the wait. I have the same 'sediments' about this show. It's the best of bad reality tv and that's why I like watching it and have watched it from the beginning. I just wish they 'd bring back the two hour episodes for each project.

I had no idea who Brandi Granville was before this season of CA. I think she's the real thing, if there is such a thing as real on reality tv. I think if Kate is going to try to emulate anyone she should at least start with Brandi and work her way up to Leeza.

I sensed that Donald was getting really aggravated with Ian about the third project in. It wasn't that apparent at first but he got more annoying with each project and the layers started peeling back. I'm sure there were a lot of behind the scenes complaints about his overblown ego that we didn't see. At any rate Trump was clearly fed up with him and I liked the way he was finally trapped by own pomposity and got fired for it.

And I've come to the conclusion that the only reason Kate was on CA at all was because her agent bugged Trump so often he finally caved and invited her just to stop the begging. She was like the one of those two-inch firecrackers that the fuse burns out before it gets to that little bang. A dud. I think Trump just kept her there to fill a chair in the boardroom for a while.

I was duped by that commercial when it first came out. I thought it WAS Trump lol. Reminds me of Saul Goodman's billboard and the fight he had with the big law firm over it.

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Hehe, me too! Only Trump is more of the over the top character of the pair.

That would be an interesting case. The guy looks and sounds nothing like Trump except at the end where he's shouting "get your millions back America!" But that song is so strongly associated with Apprentice for many people it begs the question if you hear that shouting and hear the song is it enough of a rip off to sue?

Geraldo comes up with so many bad ideas yet somehow has an uncanny ability to make it seem like he's not the problem. He's very manipulative I think. He plays innocent even harder than Kate does. This episode was the first time it really started to get on my nerves.

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Trump likes to blow his horn on how much money CA raises for charity.

Once Geraldo proved to be a big gun getting donations on the very first task, I was pretty sure he will be one of the finalists. I thought it was going to be a repeat of Geraldo vs I-an at the end until Trump moved Leeza onto Team Vortex. There was simply no way to slough off enough players in the time they had left unless something drastic took place with one of the teams.

I will watch CA again next season unless Rosie is on it. I cannot stand to even hate-watch her.

I watched this episode live as I wanted to see how PhoneGate unraveled. All through the King's Hawaiian task, I kept thinking the slogan should be "From Our Island to Yours" since NYC sits on several islands. Also, how could they miss the play that Brooklyn is in Kings County? And I have never been to NYC except for driving across it once on I-95.

But that song is so strongly associated with Apprentice for many people it begs the question if you hear that shouting and hear the song is it enough of a rip off to sue?

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I think Trump would be flattered by the commercial. And what the heck, it's almost like free advertising for CA. H&R is a pretty big company to take on in court though, so maybe he's better off to stand down and be a good sport about it, not tell them they 'suck'. Geez Donald.

For some strange reason I have a craving for tuna casserole and I'm not even a big fan of tuna casserole but it is one of those itches that just has to be scratched every once in a while. Like KFC which I have about every 5 or 6 years and then question why I even tried it again. It's too greasy for my taste.

I seem to get her "sanitized" version of Twitter b/c all of the negative comments are gone. There is nothing to indicate there are any Kate haters in the world. Even comments from people like those on this blog, whose main priority is stopping the exploitation of her kids are gone.

Now that her recent media blitz is done, her posts on Twitter the last 10 days or so just borders on the pathetic. She needs to provide detailed info of everything she did just so her fans can tell her over and over what a great mom she is. She reminds me of a junkie that needs a fix. Oh and showing a pic of a bubble bath she drew for Maddie?? WTH? Does this woman have NO boundaries with her kids and the public? Maddie wasn't in the tub but it goes to show it was more important for Kate to show how wonderful, amazing and thoughtful she is as Supermom of 8 than allow her 15 year old daughter at least one private space in the house. Tell me that girl wasn't teased walking down the hallways of her high school after her mom posted that pic. I can't see her as anything but pathetic.

Joy, I used to make a Susan Powter (stop the insanity!) recipe for corn bread. Unfortunately, that cookbook is packed away. It had flour, cornmeal, canned creamed corn, and some honey as some of the ingredients. Maybe a Google search? Now I'm craving fresh made cornbread with lots of melted butter and honey.

Admin, thanks for the recap and the new post. Kenya is a professional narcissist; compared to her, Kate is an amateur.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 15I was duped by that commercial when it first came out. I thought it WAS Trump lol. Reminds me of Saul Goodman's billboard and the fight he had with the big law firm over it.

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Hehe, me too! Only Trump is more of the over the top character of the pair.******Thank you! I'm not the only one who thought I was hearing Trump during that Block commercial.I can't imagine they weren't trying to riff off of Trump and CA. Block is right there on the ragged edge of some sort of infringement, but it works.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 4Geraldo comes up with so many bad ideas yet somehow has an uncanny ability to make it seem like he's not the problem. He's very manipulative I think. He plays innocent even harder than Kate does.

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I don't think he had to try that hard. I think more happened on the episode where the Jonas brother was fired than we saw in the edit, because after that everyone tip-toed around Geraldo. I think they all knew that Trump liked him and wanted him to stay until the end.

Having never watched CA, I didn't realize that was the theme song.And I always thought the H & R Block guy was trying to copy Ben Stein's persona -- kind of a stereotypical nerdy accountant. But instead of Ben's droning monotone, this guy shouts. To me,the humor comes from this nebbish trying to look like a ballerwith stacks of cash. So the Trump connection never occurredto me!

@Kateplusmy8: EVERY girl shld hav a DAD like Curt❤️ RT @SandieBellz: @Kateplusmy8 RT Curt Shilling goes full dad mode,gets revenge http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/03/03/curt-shilling-goes-full-dad-mode-gets-revenge-when-his-17-year-old-daughter-is-bullied-online/”========Jon isn't on twitter and you are and Jon did go "full dad" when he tried to stop you from filming the kids. Why don't you go "full mom" on those that bash Mady after you put her out there for the world to see. In fact, why don't you go "full mom" and stop filming your kids?

NJGal51 said... 29@Kateplusmy8: EVERY girl shld hav a DAD like Curt❤️ RT @SandieBellz: @Kateplusmy8 RT Curt Shilling goes full dad mode,gets revenge http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/03/03/curt-shilling-goes-full-dad-mode-gets-revenge-when-his-17-year-old-daughter-is-bullied-online/”========Jon isn't on twitter and you are and Jon did go "full dad" when he tried to stop you from filming the kids. Why don't you go "full mom" on those that bash Mady after you put her out there for the world to see. In fact, why don't you go "full mom" and stop filming your kids?*****Funny, Kate is exactly who I thought of when I heard about Curt Schilling firing back at the sickos who Tweeted disgusting things about his daughter.First, Kate's once again implying that Jon wouldn't defend his daughters as Schilling has. Love how she writes "DAD" in all caps.Second, it should give Kate pause with regards to tweeting ANYTHING (see, I can emphasize with caps, too!) about her children.If Schilling's daughter got responses about rape, from such a happy and innocuous remark about getting accepted to college, can Kate get it through her thick skull that tweeting that your 14-year old daughter is about to lounge naked in a soaking tub could draw even more disgusting responses directed to the child she should be doing whatever it takes to protect??

Here's what Dad and Mom-mode needs to look like right now-with Twitter being the cesspool that it is: STOP TWEETING ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN!

It's like throwing them to the wolves and being shocked, SHOCKED, at the lupine frenzy you've created.

Ok, reality tv concept has hit rock bottom. Tnx had a story that Bobby Brown s two sisters, brother, and their children are filming a reality show including daily discussions of Bobbi Christinas ongoing comatose state. if this is true, it's disgusting, reminiscent of vultures hovering around.

"For the Love of Money" is probably still owned by the O'Jays or the producers Gamble/Huff. CA and H & R Block most likely license the music.

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Oh I'm sure, and apparently Trump didn't pony up for the exclusive rights to it, which means anybody else could pay for the rights too.

Even if it were a parody, parodies are generally allowed. I think it's hard to say whether H&R Block intended it to resembled Trump or not. A whole lot of people don't watch The Apprentice or associate that song that strongly with it. Fans do, but we're fans. I think it's possible they were just trying to create a nerdy character, in the vein of Ben Stein as someone suggested. Donald Trump is not nerdy, does not wear glasses or bow ties, is not short like that guy or grey. The only part that sounded like him to me was the shouting, but that could purely be a coincidence.

I think he's up a creek without a paddle if he ever tried to sue them. If they got a lookalike, that would be another matter.

I believe both Kenya and Geraldo, who have former ties to DT got a long leash, to say the least. TFW flew under the radar for a long time, with all of the antics of other "celebs." Put a cast of narcissists together and try to sort them out. LOL

I did like Leeza and am glad she won, as she put her money where her mouth was, and was by far a better player/person.

As for twitter, I do not post, but agree with those who said to "haters" to stop posting and giving attention to it. They actually feed TFW's claims that she is "bullied" which is total BS, but TFW without "bullies" does a good job of looking ineffective, narcissist, talentless person, who is nothing without her kids. Never mind her constant treats for help for her appliances, which should be handled privately. Never mind finding a pizza parlor who delivers locally, improve the relationship with the kids and Jon (their father), and accept the fact that they kids are maturing, and can no longer be pushed in to compliance with her insane filming requirements, when it is clear that at least 4 no longer want to film. There will be a huge price for TFW to pay with her demands on the kids, who most are not handling the filming well. The most interesting part of this farce is that the sheeple do not seem to acknowledge the wear and tear on the kids, and that many are no longer comfortable filming. Does not take a rocket scientist to see this : )

I think Trump would have to show that that song is so strongly associated with him and his brand it is clearly is an infringement. I just don't think that's a winning argument. That song is associated with CA for the people who watch it. For everybody else, I don't think they think of that at all. I bet he's already talked to his lawyers who told him it's no good.

That song was written ages before CA ever even started, and most people had heard that song many times before it ever showed up on CA.

To compare it to Saul, lol, he used identical coloring and font, identical graphics, and his name was the same last name as one of the law firm's partners. Way too many similarities there.

The G kids' dad isn't allowed in their house, or even on their property -- a very special family "tradition" TFW has managed to keep up for years. So I don't want to hear her get all sniffy and sentimental about how important dads are, when she's done everything in her power to sabotage her 8 children's relationship with theirs.

FlimsyFlamsy said... 42And let's not forget the real reason TFW probably RT'ed thatthing about dads. It was her way of opening the door for her6 rabid fans to take their best shots at Jon, while her handsremain clean.*****Check!They're all over it like Pavlovian dogs.

The G kids' dad isn't allowed in their house, or even on their property -- a very special family "tradition" TFW has managed to keep up for years. So I don't want to hear her get all sniffy and sentimental about how important dads are, when she's done everything in her power to sabotage her 8 children's relationship with theirs.

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And let's not forget the real reason TFW probably RT'ed that thing about dads. It was her way of opening the door for her 6 rabid fans to take their best shots at Jon, while her hands remain clean.

Saul is a smart cookie. He planned everything out. He knew the law and manipulated Hamlin. It was his plan all along to not only to get a dig at Hamlin, but get free publicity by pulling the billboard stunt. I did not see it coming, but it fell into place when I saw that he and the billboard sign guy were in cahoots. "Better Call Saul" is excellent. The show is TV worth watching along with "Downton Abbey", "The Blacklist", "Mad Men", "Hell on Wheels" to name a few. We record all then watch or binge at our leisure.

JoyinVirginia said... 34Ok, reality tv concept has hit rock bottom. Tnx had a story that Bobby Brown s two sisters, brother, and their children are filming a reality show including daily discussions of Bobbi Christinas ongoing comatose state. if this is true, it's disgusting, reminiscent of vultures hovering around.

Not.********Well, if not that, then I'm sure his orange hue does the trick!

Ugh, I can't wrap my head around women who can choke down their own vomit and act like they'd get with someone like DT, if not for the fact that he's rich.Guys don't have to all be Brad Pitt (or whomever revs your engine), but there has to be likable qualities, warmth, humor and wit.DT has none of that.What he has, is money.

I was just going to ask the same question. I'm not following that either. I didn't see that it was mocking anything. Nurses "draw" blood. It's what they do. =============================================

It was a simple joke. Certainly not a slam. I think you are going overboard.

As far as the Crystal Bridges Museum and the Mrs. Walton, you could not be more wrong.

Yes local yokul, it was TMZ. auto correct strikes again. This is same group of Bobby Brown relatives that got into fight at their hotel, that have given interviews about Whitney and Bobbi Kristina, and the TMZ story does sound possible. True? Who knows?It's just so sad about Whitney and now her daughter.

Kate's remark about the "DAD", is a direct shot at Jon.She LOATHES him. I'd even bet she wishes he was DEAD, that way she could churn that into publicity and $$ (it might take her a while, but she'd figure it out).She will NEVER EVER forgive Jon for stopping the money train. She will hate him until her last dying breath.It's a shame she doesn't know the power and freedom of forgiveness.

She's a narcissist to the Nth degree..so glad she lives no where near me! I *honestly* can't fathom living near her and knowing the lies she spews in and about her community.Heck I might even go to work at the pizza place just to get her phone number and plaster it all over the internet. LOL

How soon the sheeple forget how they literally lambasted Hailey and called her every name in the book, accused her of breaking up Jon and Kate's marriage, etc., but now that she and her mother portray themselves as Jon's "victims"(just like Kate) they absolutely adore them and believe everything they say.

Goody says she doesn't care what Kate did 8 years ago, but she seems fixated on what Jon did 6 years ago.

Wasn't Glassman about to disown Hailey? Does Glassman feel it would benefit her daughter's emotional health and well being to do some tell all about an immature relationship from years ago? That whole family needs help. And just how up in her grown daughter's business was this mama bear to know enough to write a book about somebody ELSE's relationship? #dysfunctional

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 55Wasn't Glassman about to disown Hailey? Does Glassman feel it would benefit her daughter's emotional health and well being to do some tell all about an immature relationship from years ago? That whole family needs help. And just how up in her grown daughter's business was this mama bear to know enough to write a book about somebody ELSE's relationship? #dysfunctional******What am I missing here?#confused(morethanusual)

JR - I'm also enjoying BCS and yes, the new town in WD is too good to be true. But I do like clean shaven Rick.

This tell all about Jon sounds like a self published book to me. If she takes it to a publisher to sell they're going to say "John Who?" And tke a pass. She'd also better be very, very careful about what she writes because her daughter's side of things and the actual truth may be two very different things. And, depending on what's written, it may just be something worth taking to court. Her daughter was no innocent and she latched on to Jon for her 15 minutes. Too much time has passed for this book to have any real impact and let's face it, other than Ms. Goody and a handful of others, no one really cares about Jon that much. TFW needs to get in touch with them and say ENOUGH (in caps).

Mrs. Glassman is an attention seeker. A normal mother would not want to open up such public wounds regarding her daughter who seems emotionally immature. It was not wise of Jon to get involved with her, but he did, so there will be a price to pay. I'm surprised it has not happened before. Maybe Dr. Glassman has some sense in that family and will demand privacy rather than air out dirty laundry but my feeling is he cannot control his wife nor daughter.

Let's just consider this: who would even want to read the story Hailey Glassman's mother feels compelled to write? What happened in 2009 between a few D-listers would be of any interest to whom? The few hundred people who bought Kate's crapbooks? I feel some hot and empty air blowing.

I don't understand this whole Kate and Glassman thing. Wasn't Hailey going to sue Kate over some texts or something, and Mother Glassman really was gunning (not literally) for Kate? Now the elder Glassman wants to write a book slamming Jon? Will Kate be on her side this time around, providing additional information, thus enabling the "author" to throw him under the bus?

FlimsyFlamsy said... 41The G kids' dad isn't allowed in their house, or even on their property -- a very special family "tradition" TFW has managed to keep up for years. So I don't want to hear her get all sniffy and sentimental about how important dads are, when she's done everything in her power to sabotage her 8 children's relationship with theirs.______________Wait--isn't Jon dead?

LOL!! Do you think several shots of Rumspringa would help us be less confused? If it weren't sleeting and Icing right now, I'd run over to the brewery and pick up some extra kegs! It's a mess out there.

I was actually feeling sorry for Mrs. Glassman at one time. I thought she was another victim who innocently got involved in the whole saga just for being kind to Kate. Turns out she's as off her rocker as her daughter.

Let her write her book and (chuckle) play. I'm sure every actor on Broadway will be waiting with baited breath to audition for the part of a reality tv show d-lister, her ex-husband and the wacko daughter of a plastic surgeon. Move over Neil Simon.

The Falwell/Hustler case had more to do with free speech which does protect parodies. That's why shows like SNL are fine. Also one thing they emphasized was that it was obvious it was all supposed to be a joke.

This might fall more into a torts act of misappropriation, using someone's name or likeness for personal benefit/profit. That's why Saul Goodman couldn't claim hey my billboard was just a parody, as he was capitalizing on another person's business and name to drive business to him. Or why someone can't be made to look just like Julia Roberts call themselves Julia and and sell a perfume called Julia. Or to put it simply, I can't open up a restaurant call it McDonalds and sell burgers then try to claim it's a parody.

I still don't think it was enough of a likeness of Trump to even get to the second question of whether it was a proper and legal parody or misappropriation. It wasn't a parody or misappropriation in the first place, it just wasn't similar enough.

I don't know why the non-fans even bother with Goody. She's clearly out of her mind and thrives on this back and forth baiting and bantering. With the other six sheeple, it might be fun to poke them because they are just so darn slow and dumb. It seems like it's good entertainment to see what stupidity they will come up with. Goody, on the other hand, is just really bizarre. No wonder Robert devoted so much space in his book to her.

That said, it would be interesting if the non-fans went into self-imposed exile for 48 hours or so, just to see what happens to Kate's timeline. Cold turkey abstaining. Of course, they can't do it, but it would be intriguing nevertheless.

Oh, look! It's Tuesday! You all know what that means…Kate will take to twitter tonight to whine about how she wishes she was live tweeting during K+8. And, of course, she will include @TLC in her tweet so that all she sheeple will be reminded to join in and tweet @TLC about how much they miss K+8. Wait for it.

Speaking of TLC, that video of Kate talking about her "haters" was a huge FU from them to her.

I bet you Kate feels like Jon isn't standing up for his kids when he objects to filming because some of them think they want to film.

Kate's brain is too small to understand that a good parent is standing up for their kids when they want to protect them from documented abuses in the industry, and that a good parent sometimes has to make decisions that their own children object to. A good parent can tell a child no even when that child is kicking and screaming yes. Otherwise there is no point in having parents, just let them live like Lord of the Flies.

Mrs. Glassman is an attention seeker. A normal mother would not want to open up such public wounds regarding her daughter who seems emotionally immature. It was not wise of Jon to get involved with her, but he did, so there will be a price to pay. I'm surprised it has not happened before.******At this point, I wouldn't think there would be enough interest on the part of the general public to read some poorly written screed by Mrs. Glassman about how she still gets the vapors when she thinks about her daughter's brief relationship with Jon. She might be able to sell it to TMZ or ROL, one brief article and one little check. Maybe.

Jon has been off tv for several years. His relationship with Hailey Glassman was brief. I really doubt he was some horrible person to Hailey, given that he is generally an easy-going guy and a people pleaser. The idea that he was some monster boyfriend doesn't fit with what we have seen over the years from Jon. In fact, he is more likely to end up with a monster than be one himself. Sounds like Hailey and her mother are fame seekers.

Kate and the sheeple's schtick is always complaining about the "haters" and the "bullies" on Kate's timeline.

Yet other celebrities laugh about it and turn it into gold. How many times has Jimmy Kimmel had a segment on "mean tweets" where celebs read mean tweets directed at them. They are one of his most popular segments.

I have more respect for a celeb who can laugh it off and not take it seriously, because they know that as a celeb they will always be a target of mean tweets--it's comes with the territory. They get it and shrug it off. They don't cry that they are being "bullied" or are a "victim".

That's what will always separate Kate from people who are true celebs--the ability to laugh at what is said about them as opposed to begging someone like BV to take her haters down and prompting her fans to do the same.

I have more respect for a celeb who can laugh it off and not take it seriously, because they know that as a celeb they will always be a target of mean tweets--it's comes with the territory. They get it and shrug it off. They don't cry that they are being "bullied" or are a "victim". *******Or sit there and give some sanctimonious, flippant bullshit line like "I feel sorry for them".No, Kate, you don't. Not for a minute. Not for a second. You wouldn't spit on them if they were on fire.Once you reach puberty, you should pretty stop using that petty line.

Conspiracy theory here: anyone think Lauren and/or Hailey privately communicate with Kate? I bring this up because Lauren is still angry over Jon and is huge Kate defender. Someone plays the role of "inside source" and Hailey is in PR ( I guess daddy still supports her so I don't think she's successful). Really, Mrs. Glassman's hatred of Jon is over-the-top. Both women seem unstable. Jon, of course, was a hot mess but that was in 2009. Just saying, what if Kate passes along little Jon gems to Hailey who has tabloid contacts?

Or sit there and give some sanctimonious, flippant bullshit line like "I feel sorry for them".No, Kate, you don't. Not for a minute. Not for a second. You wouldn't spit on them if they were on fire.Once you reach puberty, you should pretty stop using that petty line.

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Yup, she can cut the sanctimonious crap. She ain't foolin' nobody.She should be worried about the things people say about her. She has a horrible reputation. How's that working for ya, Kreider? When your claim to fame is being a mother and you're know as "one of America's least favorite tv mothers", you have a problem. A handful of "haters" didn't give you that title, the majority of people did.

Same thing with the women who glom onto Hugh Hefner and crawl into bed with him. That's all kinds of disgusting, but they're out there. I'm no pearl clutcher but really?? How desperate are they?******And what Evangelical Christian with bible verses strewn about the home and emblazoned on their shirt leaves their little children with them for a week to film a tv show?

As an adult, I like Kendra. She seems nice enough. But as a parent, I wouldn't do what Kate did. Well, I wouldn't do it period, but certainly not with someone with Kendra's history.It's too much to expect kids to deal with once they find out what she's done- too many things that are not in alignment with my morals, and the morals I would teach children.

Let her write her book and (chuckle) play. I'm sure every actor on Broadway will be waiting with baited breath to audition for the part of a reality tv show d-lister, her ex-husband and the wacko daughter of a plastic surgeon. Move over Neil Simon.

Good gawd. Is the insanity ever going to end?*******This "circle of life" is more like a circle jerk!

As far as the play? Maybe off-off-off-off-off-off-off Broadway, which is to say, a closet in Hoboken.

Haha! Or as Auntie Ann sayeth: "Too Bad Jon's Dead". I know some "ones" here are sick of acronyms, but I quite like TBJD. And it can be used in every case where TFW is whining and moaning about her terrible lot in life and how she is so burdened with raising 8, count 'em, 8 kids all by her lonesome.

Admin - Your photo of the pier is stunning. Am I remembering correctly that you were going to have your work exhibited somewhere?

Tucker, I agree with you.Kendra's past would put me off, and it's a traumatic idea for kids anyway IMO. Haha, I wouldn't change with Kate either. I would be terrified for my kids. Kendra did seem nice and really respected and empathized with the kids. Kate was all 'my way is the best' and was very sanctimonious about her wonderful parenting skills and Kendra's 'clutterish' kitchen. Kendra seemed very earnest in giving the kids the best, safest, fun experience but Kate just found fault with everything at the Basketts.' Funny Mady used to secretly watch Kendra on Top!

Call me Crazy yes! I showed at a small gallery in L.A. with about three other artists. I was very fortunate to get in, and it was mostly because I knew someone who likes my work and knew somebody there. It was a wonderful night and incredibly exciting to get a foot in the door thanks to a kind friend.

I know some "ones" here are sick of acronyms, but I quite like TBJD. And it can be used in every case where TFW is whining and moaning about her terrible lot in life and how she is so burdened with raising 8, count 'em, 8 kids all by her lonesome.

Blowing in the WInd (95),Oops! I did write "she" sheeple, didn't I? Of course, I'll include the "he" sheeple, too. Don't want to be exclusionary!

TLC stinks (99),You have a good point there..Hailey might very well be Kate's "source" for tabloid leaks. Hailey has the contacts, Kate feeds her the story. Hailey gets to pretend it's PR work, Kate gets to plant her stories without getting her own hands dirty, and if there's money involved, they can split it. It's a win-win for those two.

Kate is a twit said... 66 Still got to love how TLC edited that video. Seems like they were trying to tell Kate something.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------That video is too funny. The joke is on Kate.Yes, Kate, rest assured we don't know the whole story.

The problem with Jon taking up with women who have more than their fair share of issues is they could end up being a total nuisance sometimes years later.

Look at Kate and Hailey.

He takes up with women who are totally the type to text you on your wedding night with some snide congratulations, who stalks your FB six years later, tweet about your passive aggressively seven years later, etc. This is all in that category. You should be able to just move on from a mistake, but if the other person doesn't want to that could be hard. Sometimes people pay for their mistakes in relationships, and he sure has. Moral of the story is of course be very, very careful who you partner with, whether wife or girlfriend.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 111The problem with Jon taking up with women who have more than their fair share of issues is they could end up being a total nuisance sometimes years later.

*****Ellen (I think that's her name), whom he dated for a long time, seemed nice, and private, and she's remained just that years after their break up.It's the Kate Majors that he has to understand are nothing but bad news.Even Liz seems to have slipped away quietly, and I'm glad for her and her kids.

She and mostly her kids, never belonged in this vale of tears to begin with.

That video on the Radar site is only a small bit of the one on TLC right? She is delusional enough she can't watch and see how horrid she is on her own show nor how stupid she was on CA either. Wow, can't imagine anyone sane not seeing that stuff and wanting to crawl under a rock. But than again she almost seemed to gloat about 99% of people hating her at that marathon event. Hmm, when is she going to run another marathon, eh? That Kenya chick on CA has to be another narc that is blind to what everyone else can see or why not smarten up, and change the behaviors? It boggles the mind.

The TLC video about how Kate deals with her "haters" has been picked up by several tabs. And the thing is, they all see how TLC revealed the hypocrisy of it all. This website summed it up best by saying :

"Interestingly enough, this monologue was complimented by some of Kate’s worst moments on Kate Plus 8. In the accompanying montage, TLC demonstrated why, exactly, so many people have taken issue with the famous mom’s approach to parenting."

With the sheeple bleating their little woolly hearts out over Twitter's announcement of a crackdown of hating and bullying, what has been their response to BV's suspension of various multiple accounts? I would think that if they are pleased as proverbial punch about eliminating the haters from Kate's TL then they would be ecstatic about wiping out ALL harassment and hating across the board. This would, of course, include BV and his minions, their true heroes

Kate is conniving but also cowardly. She can never really directly insult Jon but does it repeatedly through innuendo, omissions, and pitching to her sheeple to do it. She knows darn well she pitched to them and they will run with it.

As much as I can't stand Kenya, at least she tells it how she feels straight to your face. At least she is straight with you. I'd rather Kate just own it then make her stupid minions do it for her. It's pathetic to use people.

Curt Shilling is highly controversial. So is Kate Gosselin. See what happens when you have individuals who feel they can tweet hurtful and disgusting comments to or about the children of unpopular celebrities. If they want to protect their family, don't tweet to the world.

I know this is totally off topic, but I saw this today and it just floored me at the ingenuity of taking something that hasn't been changed in over 163 years, stunning and shocking the bee hive honey industry. What is fun is seeing the professional bee keepers stunned and speechless about what they are seeing. They just can't believe it!

Indiegogo had a goal to raise 70,000 for this idea and they still have over 30 days to go and they have raised almost 4.5 million dollars!

Ok, read the tweets re Curt Shilling.First, public figures are just that, by having social media they are putting themselves 'out there' for all sorts of feedback, positive or negative.So this guy tweets a congrat to his daughter's accomplishment--first, why did he think it was necessary to do this on social media? If he was so proud, why couldn't he just call her or send a text? (I am in no way defending the vile tweets, but am just not believing Curt is 100% innocent in all of this).Ok, so some young hormonal guys start saying they want to date his daughter (apparently nothing vile is said to this point).Curt says something like, "I know men in Armed Forces", blah blah.Well, by saying that, IN MY MIND, he is engaging and baiting people.So, yep, the dad STARTED this whole mess.Perhaps if he hadn't tweeted that about knowing men in the Armed Forces the subsequent tweets might not have turned vile. Who knows, but Curt started it.

As far as Kate applauding his actions, WHAT HAS SHE DONE TO PROTECT HER OWN KIDS FROM VILE ATTACKS ON TWITTER?

Okay I just watched the H&R Block commercial above to see what everyone's talking about. They're not trying to copy Trump. That guy is THE H&R Block commercial guy. He's been in a lot of their commercials, so they didn't specifically hire him to mock Trump.

And he's shouted the "get your billions back" in other commercials for previous years. They've had that campaign slogan for a while.

So while yes, they're using the theme song to Celebrity Apprentice, that's where the resemblance to Trump ends.

LaurenBGlassman @LaurenBGlassman · Jan 8 @PuffX6 @GeeWhiz__ He was Not the guy I had known 4 yrs. I still wake up with nightmares of what happened. I think it's time to write this!!

LaurenBGlassman @LaurenBGlassman · Jan 8 @PuffX6 @GeeWhiz__ Truthfully I would Love 2 turn this into a play.This wld be an amzing book, U'd Never put it down, U'd Never believe it.

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Grow...the...heck...up. I could MAYBE see selling this story WHEN IT HAPPENED back in 2009. But they haven't been in a relationship in 6 years. SIX YEARS. Get over it, move on.

But to write anything now just smacks of being a fame whore. They're both latching onto the only thing in their lives that has ever given them a modicum of fame, and that's the J&K circus. Good luck to them.

But a word of advice: therapy. Lots and lots of therapy. Because if you're searching for any kind of recognition from the public eye because you had a brief (and toxic) relationship with a D-Listed reality show contestant 6 years ago, that's not healthy and that's not normal. And you will never be satisfied even if you get the attention you're looking for.

Who has a bird that we canposte on the kitchen counter? I have a happy dog who will put his paws on the counter so his nose can be in the picture. And the cat will distainfully perch on the kitchen counter near our Kitchen Aide mixer s and other cooking implements. Aren't things better with bird poop and dog and cat cooties in the mix?

TLC stinks said... 125Curt Shilling is highly controversial. So is Kate Gosselin. See what happens when you have individuals who feel they can tweet hurtful and disgusting comments to or about the children of unpopular celebrities. If they want to protect their family, don't tweet to the world.

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Curt posted an innocuous tweet about how proud he was of his daughter who got into college. Even the most hated celebrity should be able to post that without people commenting that they would like to rape their daughter, and include violent descriptions on how they want to rape her.

I'd like to think there are other solutions out there then never tweet anything, ever. I don't know what the solution is, freedom of speech and all of that. But shouldn't a famous (albeit controversial) dad be allowed to post an innocuous parent bragging tweet without THAT kind of reaction?

The issue Curt Schilling posed is world's apart from TFW, who practically advertises pedophiles to her page with some of the video she allowed to air and some of her twitter posts about her kids.

I don't really see the hero in this Curt guy either. Sounds like he actually picked a fight with someone who may have just been making an innocent joke. It also sounds like he wasn't protecting his child in the first place or this never would have happened. You can't really say its' blaming the victim. I don't blame the victim, his daughter. Curt is not the victim though. He is her protector. He had a job to do, protect her, and he failed. Countless other parents manage to protect their kids from social media. He is not special or absolved from that duty. I don't find it heroic to "take on" social media any way than I would find it heroic to take on kidnappers by letting your kid go out alone, etc. There's heroic, and then there's stupidity.

I think Kate reads headlines. Doesn't bother to research it for 30 seconds. All she saw was some guy defended his kid on social media and she jumped on the bandwagon. She is a lazy internet user.

From Lauren Glassman's tweets, briefly looking at her timeline I get the feeling she is looking for attention, even an identity. She's played the doctor's wife socialite for a lifetime. She has no identity beyond that. She's had a privileged life and frankly her public display over the hurt her daughter's ex boyfriend caused is embarrassing. From that alone you can see how fragile, and weak minded she has become. Have a backbone. Pitiful. Just pitiful.

I just read an update story and it seems this Curt guy has insured that one person was fired and another was kicked out of school.

While I agree with Insert and others I in no way support inappropriate comments about his child, does it really make you feel better you got somebody fired and somebody else kicked out of school? For one mistake that YOU instigated? Of course his daughter shouldn't have been attacked but his response sounds more like BV than rational. You are responsible for how you respond to bad things.

I don't know, perhaps a dialogue would be more effective, perhaps a sexual harassment class or something like that. But if it makes Curt, who is a multi millionaire, feel good that two blue collar people have had their lives dismantled, okay. Has he never, ever said anything he regretted? Just wondering.

Sounds more like a tit for tat to me, with both sides at fault. The only innocent person I see is the child.

I don't think the issue is so much Curt's congratulations tweet. I think the issue was when a few trolls latched onto it, how he handled it. Apparently he engaged himself, then went on a rampage to take him down. It was hardly rational.

Personally, I think he went overboard. I think if you start engaging in war with trolls it will not end well. I think it would have served him well to remember most trolls usually have issues of their own and that a lot of it is about projection. I don't see that it helps much to destroy their lives. That doesn't make me feel satisfied. If you want to engage find but I don't find engaging MORE heroic than a parent who decides to simply delete and block them.

And let me clarify, I think anyone who said something nasty about his daughter is disgusting. I'm only saying the punishment he dolled out to them I don't find helpful, progressive, or satisfying. It doesn't HELP anything. In fact, I think it just instigated and galvanized that side of the internet.

Re: Curt Schilling twitter. If I were the person's dad, I would hunt down the jerks, call the school where they're at, and have them on notice. It's not that I'm about ruining lives, but that some things should never EVER be said, and I think the trolls did cross the line. I think there should be consequences for when you cross the line from locker room talk to vile descriptions of rape.

Maybe not kicked out of school, or fired necessarily...but some sort of consequence. But I still don't feel badly for them that they were. There are other schools and other jobs, their lives aren't "ruined". I've been fired for less at the age.

I think the main takeaway is that this should lead to a public dialogue about twitter use, and to what degree is freedom of speech and to what degree is an actual threat. You shouldn't be able to go around telling people you want to rape someone then graphically describe it. No matter if someone "engages you" on twitter. If you did it in person, you could be arrested. If you do it online, it's considered par for the course. I do think we should be challenging the "par for the course", "it's social media, what do you expect" type of mentality. I'm not sure what the solution is, but there should be a dialogue that leads to a solution.

And I'm not talking about "haters" or "non-fans" saying mean things to Curt or his daughter. Those types of trolls are nuisances, but freedom of speech allows them to say whatever they want whenever they want. I'm talking about crossing the line from innocent "I don't like you" words to "I'm going to stalk your daughter at her new college and rape her". There's a difference, and the latter should have more consequences associated with it than it does presently.

Ask the people of Rhode Island what they think about Curt. It is not favorable and he gets off scot free for serious things he has done to people. Asking for an apology from those 2 guys would have been better than getting them fired and expelled from school.

Insert Creative User Name Here (#143), I wholeheartedly agreewith your thoughts about these reality folk. The attention, asTucker's Mom eloquently put it, is like that first drug fix, and they will forever be "chasing the dragon."

And, yep, Mrs. Glassman is, oh, about 72 months late with herbrilliant idea. Because of the super-speed of social media,fame is a completely different animal in 2015. Today it's "strike while the iron is hot," or forget it. Remember V. Stiviano, andher week of superstardom last year? Maybe you don't -- itcame and went so fast. But for a hot minute, she was everywhere - including a Barbara Walters interview.

And this woman thinks she's going to sell the idea of a bookabout a D-lister (I support Jon, but dude is as D-list as hecan be) and his long-ago short-term relationship with herdaughter, who is best known for stumbling into a plant?Even if Ellen's or Liz's mothers wanted to write a book aboutJon and their daughters in more recent relationships, I think the world would respond with a resounding, "Who cares?"

And EVERY girl SHOULDN'T have a MOM like Kate, who has let fans on FB and twitter say despicable things about Mady, yet doesn't say one word to defend her.

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All the terrible, cruel and quite possibly very true things said about Mady and NOT once has Kate tweeted back, "that's my daughter you are referring to" or "that's a child you are tweeting about", not one word or mention from the MOTHER!!!!!!! Her sheep and even haters took up for Mady but the mother thing, never one time!!!!

Why is that Kate? Why not defend your own daughter? I imagine the onslaught of any kind of defending would make it worse, but still. If that were my child with her struggles of course she would never be on TV.

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As for the new little Mom...ugh, I see the next Kate Gosselin emerging quick as can be. Insulting, putting down her husband. Wagging her finger at people who are taking their picture. Potty training and half dressed toddlers. Watch, they will be moving soon into a house suited for their needs. Sorry, but when a film crew is following you, people will take pictures. It was more about that, I think, then little people.

Sorry if this offends anyone because I don't mean it to, but LP are becoming like the homosexuals. I want the same rights. but don't look at me differently, but oh by the way we are different so treat me the same but make sure you don't offend me while I am climbing all over your grocery shelves with my dirty shoes. Don't offer to help me because that isn't PC, but if I fall and crash the shelving down I will be sueing your store for accessibility.

I saw a little of Our Little family. The few mins I watched, the mother reminds me of Kate. She started to bitch about the hubby being late for the birthday party, her whole personality was so like Kates I had to change channels. I also saw the clip/commercial of her talking about how people will stop & stare and then take a pic, then they showed a clip of her yelling at someone to stop taking pics. Reminded me of Kate. This is a mini Kate in the making, thankyou TLC!

If she does not want her pic taken: GET OFF TV! People saw you on TV and you made your life un-private, you are getting paid, so STOP COMPLAINING & BITCHING OR GET OFF TV!

Re: Curt Schilling twitter. If I were the person's dad, I would hunt down the jerks, call the school where they're at, and have them on notice. It's not that I'm about ruining lives, but that some things should never EVER be said, and I think the trolls did cross the line. I think there should be consequences for when you cross the line from locker room talk to vile descriptions of rape.

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I don't believe in vigilante justice. I agree with Foxy, an apology would mean more and probably do more good. This "war" on the internet is out of control and all Curt did was play right into it. Hunting people down solves nothing.

There is something about this that stinks. To me it plays more like Curt wants to be crowned white knight internet hero, than he is seriously interested in the state of the internet. It seems self-congratulatory to me.

Easy fix Curt. Get off social media. Or leave your kids out of it. How difficult is that? I think you have to expect, unfortunately some backlash, no matter who you are on social media. On my own FB page I may like a news article or share something and my own cousin always, always remarks snidely. Guess how I fixed that???? I unfriended her. Problem solved, My page. My control to allow snide, baiting comments.

The interesting thing is she got so butt hurt over it and I said to her I was tired of making her angry so I thought it was for the best! Because clearly my interests differ from her, no big deal. Why read or follow someone who pisses you off? She went on to say "free speech" and such, and I said, yes, and I have the right to have a facebook that isn't being ragged on.

There was a specific one Curt responded to that was not that bad, he picked a fight with somebody, period. I have no need to read all the vile tweets. That's not what I want to see. Curt should not have read them either.

Guess what, if you as a celeb keep your kids OUT OF IT you never have to worry. If Twitter is upsetting to you, GET OFF IT. Period.

So, would Curt like to be chased down over some of the offensive things he has done on the internet? For instance his comments himself and things he has forwarded that are extremely racist and short-sighted. Yeah, I don't think so. Why is what he said to piss others off okay but what others say not okay? This guy is a tool who wants free speech for me but not for thee and has become an internet white knight. I don't buy it for a second.

LaurenBGlassman @LaurenBGlassman · Jan 8@PuffX6 @GeeWhiz__ Truthfully I would Love 2 turn this into a play.This wld be an amzing book, U'd Never put it down, U'd Never believe it.

--You're right. I won't believe a word of it.LOL(contrary to Kate's copyrighted journal--thanks for the authentification, Kate!) I don't know when it will be, but one of these days, that journal is going to go mainstream and she'll have to answer for her abuse.

I have mixed feelings about the Curt thing. His joke about knowing people in special forces was in response to guys saying they wanted to date his daughter. The other, extremely offensive tweets were not related to that. One of the kids did try to apologize, saying he hates Curt and was just trying to get under his skin, and in no way does he advocate rape nor was he implying rape. Too little too late, but it sounds like he learned a valuable lesson. I think Curt went too far, just publishing the tweets would have been enough and the problem would have resolved itself, but the gloating is bad.

My husband had to work in Italy during the Superbowl. I sought out a pub televising the game (at midnight) and bought tickets. We didn't know there are many American students on a semester abroad there. Many of them were at the pub. I could not believe my ears. The things these kids were screaming, and I am not a prude. One of the more tame things was, "Brady has a loose a-hole (implying he's gay) and he can suck my......" And this was from a GIRL. And it was BEFORE the game. We sat with a professor from University of Chicago and he was shaking his head. We had on Seahawks jerseys and one kid came over and was trying to talk to us. He was drunk but being respectful to us - but he was one of the screamers too. His junk was in striking distance, I so wanted to punch it. We should have purchased streaming and watched on the laptop at the hotel.

Civility is dying. No filters. If you challenge someone, you are labeled a hater or they target you in a vile way. I know there are more good kids than bad but they are generally quiet and the worst are the loudest. It's sad and disconcerting.

Their parents must be so proud. Actually, they probably have NO idea what little Johnny or Jane are up to, as they are legal adults. Sad. I'm glad I don't have kids.

His joke about knowing people in special forces was in response to guys saying they wanted to date his daughter

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Yes, THAT is the innocent joke I was referring to. Or could have been, anyway. His daughter in question was born in 1997, she is either 18 or almost 18, an adult, it's not like somebody said I want to date your 12 year old. It is perfectly legal to want to date a consenting adult, even if the comment was weird, perhaps inappropriate or unwarranted, but it could have been an innocent mistake. Ignore it. The special forces response to that one I feel is way over the top and certainly instigating.

Kate is a twit said... 66Ha ha---ROL has an article about the TLC video on how Kate deals with her haters. They titled it "Kate Hate! Gosselin Addresses Critics In New Video: ‘I Feel Bad For Them’ – Her Hypocritical Tirade "

They picked up on hypocritical Kate is, especially since the video shows her being mean to the kids.

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Was that part of an episode? Haven't watched her in a long time.

I really believe TLC gets her. The general public likes a train wreck and TLC knows that. They show her in a bad light on purpose and either she plays off of that as her 'role' or she is just so stupid not to see it........ I'm leaning toward stupidity...

Several of you make the excellent point that Kate 'hearts' Curt Schilling and what he did, yet she doesn't say BOO to all the people who are shredding her daughter (and other kids) online. She says she ignores, ignores, ignores....and then makes a video about how she ignores them and their sad little lives. That's not ignoring.

PS: I meant to say in my other post that the extremely vile tweets about Schilling's daughter were perceived as threats by many, many people who read them. I know some of you haven't seen them and I wish I hadn't either. He has all the screen captures on his self-congratulatory blog.

Funny, I took that as a threat. It's hard to tell from someone's tone on twitter. I would not make a comment like that to a troll expecting good things to come of it. He should know better. It was instigating, pure and simple. It's convenient he now wants to say it was a joke now that that caused a bunch of trolls to come out of their caves and poke him further.

Funny, I took the initial comment as a joke, and you didn't.

I can't support a racist tax evader as a hero. It's unconscionable to me.

Guess what, people do not have an inalienable right to make vile sexual comments about minors on Twitter. There are CONSEQUENCES for that type of behavior. Period.

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And I never said anyone has a right to go after minors (isn't she 18 or almost 18?) and I also never said there should not be consequences to saying such vile things. Where on earth did you get that from?

What was said is that his vigilante "revenge" was not the proper response and in fact just instigated things. What was also said, is that he is no angel on the internet and in fact has said very racist things on the internet. Where are the white knights defending all those he attacked? What was also said, is that he shouldn't have engaged in the first place and guess what that never would have happened. I don't buy it. Don't fall for him. Other suggested an apology, a dialogue, a sexual harassment class, etc. That is a CONSEQUENCE. It may not be one you would prefer but it is in the opinion of many a better consequence.

I'd like to think there are other solutions out there then never tweet anything, ever. I don't know what the solution is, freedom of speech and all of that. But shouldn't a famous (albeit controversial) dad be allowed to post an innocuous parent bragging tweet without THAT kind of reaction?*******First, I agree with your sediments, but allow me to be a contrarian for a moment ;-)People should be able to Tweet, or blog, or Facebook happy and innocuous things about their children without such reprehensible, malicious, sub-human responses that Schilling got about his daughter.

The question is, right NOW, should they?

As counterintuitive as it sounds, I believe the answer may very well be no, and if you decide to volunteer personal information about your children for public consumption, on platforms such as social media, you had better brace yourself for the responses to run the entire gamut.Schilling, no longer making fucketymillions in baseball, has reincarnated himself as a controversial, no-holds-barred public figure, and that, I believe, has weighed heavily in who his audience is and how they have responded.The man is hated by legions of people (especially in RI), has too many enemies to enumerate, and I think that perturbs this base behavior that we've witnessed.

I guess this is a long-winded way of saying that as a parent, it's best to not include your children on your personal,PUBLIC Twitter account.

Social media in general, and Twitter in particular, is a blunt instrument, and if you wield it, do not expect surgical precision.

If and when someone, somewhere, somehow manages the Herculean task of transforming Twitter from Deadwood, to Leave It To Beaver, then by all means, share and share everything.

In the meantime, proceed at your own risk and peril, and that of whomever you decide to include.

You've been warned, and from now on, if you haven't "gotten it" yet, when you play the "blame card", make sure to deal one to yourself.

The man has ENTRENCHED himself in an absolute mud pit for years, slinging mud himself left and right, stealing money from good people, then brings his 3-months from 18 daughter into it, engages with the fringe crazy tweeters "joking" or whatever he was doing, engaging, and gets mad when the thousands of enemies he has amassed poke the crazy right back. The twitter trolls probably just feel GALVANIZED by his little crusade. He accomplished nothing and probably actually made it worse. The trolls don't feel chastened by him. They see it as war. He made social media worse by doing that.

As you said, it would be great if social media were cleaned up, I'm sure everyone supports that. It's NOT. So you tread lightly just like you would in real life in the bad part of town unless and until it gets better. It's common freaking sense. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

reader said... 151From Lauren Glassman's tweets, briefly looking at her timeline I get the feeling she is looking for attention, even an identity. She's played the doctor's wife socialite for a lifetime.*******Looks like Lauren is getting some sort of certification as a health coach, and whatever the hell that means, I think that's great-pursue what you love and what makes you happy.It's been 6 years since Hailey was involved with Jon. Everyone knows it didn't end well, and I have no idea what Jon's machinations where back then, but it's time for the Glassmans to close the Gosselin chapter of all of their lives, and move on.Moreover, they should feel lucky that they have the choice.

I agree, well said, Tucker's Mom. And here's something else to ponder. There is 1 Curt Shilling. Get rid of one troll and another one will take his place. Or hasn't Kate Kreider and BV learned this by now.

Tucker's Mom said "Social media in general, and Twitter in particular, is a blunt instrument, and if you wield it, do not expect surgical precision."Well said.

Twitter is another aspect of this "real world. " Yes perhaps critics wouldn't come face to face and say these things publicly about someone's child, in part because parents wouldn't use a public venue to stand there and vocally broadcast information and photos. Parents want the power of the internet to brag, draw attention without the cost, the embarrassment.That being said I didn't see the slurs aimed at this near adult age daughter, but it sounds as if the were cruel. Costing people their jobs over a a derogatory comment about a millionaire's daughter on Twitter? Asinine.

Well, well, well. Mr. Shilling seems to have a habit of getting what he wants. This is from Wikipedia.

"In November 2014, Schilling got into a day-long Twitter argument with baseball writer Keith Law over the creation-evolution controversy, where he argued for creationism against Law's defense of evolution, after which ESPN decided to suspend Law's Twitter account.[80] ESPN commented that "Keith's Twitter suspension had absolutely nothing to do with his opinions on the subject," but it remains unclear what other motivation is behind the act, since the conversation between Schilling and Law reportedly "never really turned hostile", with many reading the details feeling that his suspension was "ridiculous".[81] Schilling's account was not suspended, and he continued to tweet.[80] Returning to Twitter after the ban expired, Law's first tweet "Eppur si muove" ("And yet it moves") made clear that Schilling's complaints about his posts contradicting his argument were in fact the reason for the suspension.[82]"

Found this,http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/03/04/curt-schilling-not-the-best-person-to-be-doling-out-social-media-justice/#.VPdgtvuR4JI.twitter

Sounds as if this was less about doing the right thing and more about a short fuse.Really fed up with the self entitlement.Don't like bullying, never did, but when you yourself have been a blowhard, you should expect some flack when you are bragging using your children on social media.

He's also said some extremely insensitive things about Ferguson that could only cause more conflict and upheaval there. The guy is a galvanizer who obviously gets off on being a grade A shitstirrer, own it.

If you want to draw some lines on Twitter, go for it, but be careful it's not you who ends up on the other side. Just as free speech should not include harassing a minor, I would suggest that free speech should not include being a racist idiot.

Look, Schilling isn't a saint, especially on social media. But regardless of who is the one bringing up the issue, I think it's a relevant issue. If something like twitter is such a big cesspool that posting something innocent automatically gets you vile, disgusting tweets referring to illegal acts, should society just accept it as a fact of life? I don't think society should.

I'm wondering why we as a society have accepted the fact that people can go to a public forum and make these kinds of statements. Why isn't there backlash against twitter for allowing it? Why isn't anyone calling for twitter to clean up their act or be held accountable? Why aren't people calling for the crucifixion of these people who are saying such evil things? Instead we're focused on what Schilling said to prompt them, how bad Schilling is as a person, what Schilling could have done to prevent it.

I mean there's already backlash here for what Schilling has said on his twitter in the past, but has half the attention been spent on the people who actually wrote specific illegal acts they would do to a specific person? To me, it's completely different stating idiot opinions on idiot topics that might offend people, than stating you want to rape someone (a specific someone no less).

That's weird to me. And to each their own. But I am enraged by the people who actually did the typing, and twitter for allowing the forum, not at the guy who congratulated his daughter in public.

I think it was more than just having an idiot opinion. He was racist. And he's a racist public figure people listen to. He could have and may have made things even WORSE in Ferguson. I think we're splitting hairs saying his racist comments were not as bad as rape comments.

I don't think anyone, anyone, is saying we should just accept that Twitter is a cesspool. I would like to see online communities be friendlier. I don't think anyone, anyone, is saying the victim (Gabriella, not her father) should be spoken to that way at any age at any time.

My issue is the vigilante way a hypocrite went about it was completely ridiculous and in my mind just as low. Having an issue with how this hypocrite racist tax evader handled the situation in no way suggests that someone is condoning the actions of those who went after his daughter.

I have to wonder too, if Schilling was a nice guy who did not make racist comments all the time, would people care he said something about his daughter? I think not.

I mean I've seen plenty of celebs mention their children vaguely that way and I don't see any comments like that. Not a one. I noticed David Beckham on his page occasionally posts photos of kids, and today wished Brooklyn a happy birthday with a photo of him. I don't see any hateful comments or even snide ones. Maybe that's because he behaves himself on social media and doesn't pick fights with people and doesn't have dozens of enemies like Curt does, so it's safer for him to share such things without putting his kids at risk. Play nice and don't be controversial and it's amazing how pleasant things might shape out to be.

While twitter has badly erred in their enforcement of their own policies and not having adequate policies in place, the biggest issue I see is people not using the tools they have been given. No where does it say you have to engage anyone on twitter. They have a block function. People need to use it.

Sara B said... 161As for the new little Mom...ugh, I see the next Kate Gosselin emerging quick as can be. Insulting, putting down her husband. Wagging her finger at people who are taking their picture. Potty training and half dressed toddlers. Watch, they will be moving soon into a house suited for their needs. Sorry, but when a film crew is following you, people will take pictures. It was more about that, I think, then little people.

Sorry if this offends anyone because I don't mean it to, but LP are becoming like the homosexuals.******No offense taken, I get where you're coming from. I just disagree that little people will ever be the media darlings that gay people have become!They are the rock stars du jour.Same for sister wives

Wow, reading that the messages to Schilling's daughter contained some pretty violent language. Pretty sick, actually. So though I do not like Curt Schilling, if what has been reported is true, if they used words like rape and bloody underwear, then these have to be seen as threats.

Having to apologize for something so vile does not qualify as a "consequence.")

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That may be your opinion.

For many people having to face the person they harmed and apologize is a very effective "consequence" and written and oral apologies are named in consequences in many school systems. That is what this is all about, not having to face the victim. That's why facing them can be very effective for those who want to do this anonymously. Look at you and how adverse you are to sticking with the same name, that's all in the same vein of being "anonymous" on the internet, not even owning the same personality/username day to day even if no one really knows you. I already said what might be a better consequence, not sure how yo missed it, and that is a sexual harassment class, open a dialogue, apologize, and I would add suspension from Twitter of not just their username but all their IPs so they can't just get a new name. I'm sure those who are experts in sexual harassment, womanizers, trolls, effective punishments, etc., can come up with something better. But it's sure not what Curt did. But in the court of law a sexual harassment class would be what would be thought of first.

Society doesn't function well when vigilantes decide how things will be. That's been the case since the beginning of time. Starting wars on the internet has never accomplished anything and it never will. It's not that I don't understand the nuance of Curt's background. It's that Curt is asking us to draw a line in the sand, yet for many people (and it's overwhelming the amount of people in the media not buying this, it's not just me) Curt falls on the wrong side of that line. The point of that is that I don't believe this is really about protecting his daughter or the internet. I think he is a pathological attention whore who gets off on controversies, and this feeds right into his pathology. He is playing the media on this, and seeking to come out the white knight hoping people will conveniently forget his own background of racism and harassment. Fortunately, folks ain't buying it.

Maybe his blowhardness caused certain types of people to flock to his twitter to say certain things; that is entirely possible. Doesn't give the person the right to say them.

And vigilante justice? He created a public blog post and re-posted the most vile comments, including the twitter handle. I'm just saying, if it were my daughter, and I was a dad, I probably would have done worse.

And I do make a distinction between racism and rape. Racism = idiot opinions. Rape = illegal act. While I have a personal problem with racism, and may have a hatred towards the racist, I'm not exactly living in fear that the racist might come find me and commit a crime against me. Now if the racism portrayed involved an illegal act (like threatening to kill someone of such-and-such a race), I would agree they're on the same playing field.

We'll never agree, and that's okay! But I'm done talking about this. Lol. Moving back to TFW's lala land...