Sold both of them, had the hill climb bike down to 3997 grams before I sold.

Sorry to steal your thread, Ill be brief. Sold both of them, had the hill climb bike down to 3997 grams before I sold. The Ghisallo frame just feel like old tech, sure ti lasts forever and all but at that weight it feels like you're pedaling a wet noodle up a hill. I remember at one point, I was doing a track stand at a stoplight and I could feel the entire frame flexing under me and I weigh 60kg.

Ha! Came to post a similar experience in that I once sprinted out of the saddle on somebody else's Ghisallo and was alarmed to feel the wheel rubbing the stays! Needless to say, i didn't buy one.

You may not get a lot of love on here for the Ghisallo, but I would make your own mind up. Later versions were certainly stiffer than the first ones.

I have one. It is not my main ride, but will not sell it and enjoy riding it. It does feel different to carbon, but it is a more alive and hungry feeling - not one that feels that a lot of energy is wasted. I would fear this thread heading off direction, but there has been discussion before about how much energy is actually lost, rather than transferred later to the pedal stroke.

As for the heavy parts, well that's the best I managed to do for now. I already have a few ideas for improvements, but as cycling is far from my most time and money consuming hobby, and the fact that I'm not rich, it will take some time to finish this project.

New update, I'll probably change the wheels for as new lightweight standard gen3 that I can buy locally.

Stem will probably be extralite OC roadstem 90mm . I'd like to change the chainring but not sure with what. Extralite octaramp seem nice, but I'll have to look into it some more. Also, I don't know where they have them in stock.

I never felt any side flex, due to small size guess and it speeds up like my Pedal Force QS3 I have also...A bit harsh ride , still due to it's small size ...All the difference is on the wheels and tire pressure , not on the frame ...And I have the brakes as tight to the rims as possible (2 mm or less )The frame is built is around 2007 I think

Just reversed the 3T stem, and put the new seat and wheels. Weight is now 6.1kg/13.5lbs

Specially happy with the mcfk seat covered with leather. Came in at 84.5g and looks amazing

Have received the extralite stem, but will not have time to play with the bike for the next month

not a bad looking bike at all. That's a great weight too, I wouldn't worry much about trying to drop it any lower, just get it riding the way you want.

and all this commentary about the flexy frames... based on the size of this frame Im going to venture out on a limb here and guess that you aren't overly heavy... do you put out an exceptional amount of power? If not, I cant see flex being a huge issue, maybe just on the fork.

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