Godbag of the Week

“When it comes to adultery, it’s 90 percent the woman’s responsibility. Why? Because a woman owns the weapon of seduction. It’s she who takes off her clothes, shortens them, flirts, puts on make-up and powder and takes to the streets, God protect us, dallying. It’s she who shortens, raises and lowers. Then, it’s a look, a smile, a conversation, a greeting, a talk, a date, a meeting, a crime, then Long Bay jail. Then you get a judge, who has no mercy, and he gives you 65 years.”

“But when it comes to this disaster, who started it? In his literature, writer al-Rafee says, if I came across a rape crime, I would discipline the man and order that the woman be jailed for life. Why would you do this, Rafee? He said because if she had not left the meat uncovered, the cat wouldn’t have snatched it.”

“If you get a kilo of meat, and you don’t put it in the fridge or in the pot or in the kitchen but you leave it on a plate in the backyard, and then you have a fight with the neighbour because his cats eat the meat, you’re crazy. Isn’t this true?”

“If you take uncovered meat and put it on the street, on the pavement, in a garden, in a park, or in the backyard, without a cover and the cats eat it, then whose fault will it be, the cats, or the uncovered meat’s? The uncovered meat is the disaster. If the meat was covered the cats wouldn’t roam around it. If the meat is inside the fridge, they won’t get it.”

“If the woman is in her boudoir, in her house and if she’s wearing the veil and if she shows modesty, disasters don’t happen.”

“Satan sees women as half his soldiers. You’re my messenger in necessity, Satan tells women you‘re my weapon to bring down any stubborn man. There are men that I fail with. But you’re the best of my weapons.”

“…The woman was behind Satan playing a role when she disobeyed God and went out all dolled up and unveiled and made of herself palatable food that rakes and perverts would race for. She was the reason behind this sin taking place.”

I like the imaginative analogy “a Piece of meat”. So direct! No fooling around here!. All women are “pieces of meat” (powered by Satan).

Unfortunately, that view is not too different from the American Puritan take on females. They pretty much said the same thing, pieces of meat, powered by Satan, probably don’t have souls (how COULD they). So we are talking about a 400 year time gap I guess….400 years ago, “our” theologians said the same thing.

Dennis

October 26, 2006 at 11:52 am

OMFG. If only he could have spoken about how men are somehow better fit for positions of leadership (despite their complete lack of agency), this would have been absolutely perfect!

thegirlfrommarz

October 26, 2006 at 11:53 am

“Satan sees women as half his soldiers. You’re my messenger in necessity, Satan tells women you‘re my weapon to bring down any stubborn man. There are men that I fail with. But you’re the best of my weapons.”

And the other half would be…? No, couldn’t be men. Probably cats. Those pesky little soldiers of Satan, always satanically playing with balls of wool and drinking saucers of milk…

Actualy the worst part was where he said the judges who gave the “cats” 50 years of jail time were lacking in mercy, because it was the fault of the meat, obviously.

Unfortunately some of our imams do talk like this. I hope he pays for it somehow – hopefully his congregation will get him fired. I don’t think deportation is the answer. Then he will just go and be a poisonous misogynist jerk in another country.

These opinions are NOT foreign. Misogyny exists everywhere. I have seen similar opinions from people like Vox Day. Unless all of them can be deported to some desert island, I don’t think deportation will help.

I still have the English translation of a really nauseating speech made by an imam in Mecca many years ago (the imam in question is Al-Sudeis who is a very famous quran reader in S. Arabia and a lot of people have his tapes – I refuse to listen to them). If you are interested contact me and I will e-mail it to you. Among other things it says paternalistically to women that we are the “sweat on his forehead” and we are “precious jewels” who will be degraded by going out of our homes to work.

evil fizz

October 26, 2006 at 12:28 pm

Because no modest woman at home is ever sexually assaulted. And certainly not by her husband.

*gag*

randomliberal/Robert

October 26, 2006 at 12:37 pm

Reasoning by analogy should be banned until everyone knows how to do it correctly. Which will be never.

Casey

October 26, 2006 at 12:43 pm

If the woman only takes off her clothes, then how does this guy expect that anyone has sex? Unless the vile women are disrobing the boys too, the poor dears.

These opinions are NOT foreign. Misogyny exists everywhere. I have seen similar opinions from people like Vox Day. Unless all of them can be deported to some desert island, I don’t think deportation will help.

Agreed.

Sheelzebub

October 26, 2006 at 1:13 pm

He’s got a lot in common with the fundie Christian wingnuts here, that’s for sure.

But as a she-demon from hell, I need to clarify something about Satan’s army. Women, as in all women, don’t make up half of Satan’s soldiers. Not even most women do. Although half of the army is female, the other half is male. Sheik Hilaly is among them. There’s nothing like someone who makes God so repellant that Satan looks good in comparison. We keep giving him employee of the month plaques and gift cards to Walmart.

I do like his position on not blaming feral cats for meat disappearance, though. Poor oppressed kitties.

Attackmonkey

October 26, 2006 at 1:27 pm

Women are Satan-powered meat-puppets? Has this guy been cribbing his notes from early 90s heavy-metal albums?

Morgan

October 26, 2006 at 1:42 pm

wow. this guy is just totally ripping off his ideas from that frat guy in my women’s studies class. what a dirty-crosser!

CatatonicLindsay

October 26, 2006 at 1:59 pm

I’m confused. If the cat represents the man and the meat is a woman and the man eats the woman…because apparently men are weak and have no concience…and because women are so awesome they just have to have us… HA this is funny!

So women are pieces meat and men are… cats? How does he make the jump to cats? I mean, a lot of man-type people like meat… but I don’t think most people would eat meat– not even a good cut of steak — that’s just lying around on the street or on a plate in someone’s backyard.

Sounds to me like he thinks men are really stupid… and kind of gross, because, ew, strange meat? Maybe his next sermon should be about teaching men how to be smarter than cats?

It’s gratifying to see the way this jerk’s community is putting him on the curb. It looks like he’s being stripped of his congregation and his cred, and run out on a rail, as well he should.
And other local leaders have already stepped up not only to call his comments on women vile, but to point out that he’s casting men as animals, too. I hope they get a better imam soon.

“If you take uncovered meat and put it on the street, on the pavement, in a garden, in a park, or in the backyard, without a cover and the cats eat it, then whose fault will it be, the cats, or the uncovered meat’s? The uncovered meat is the disaster. If the meat was covered the cats wouldn’t roam around it. If the meat is inside the fridge, they won’t get it.”

“If you take uncovered meat and put it on the street, on the pavement, in a garden, in a park, or in the backyard, without a cover and the cats eat it, then whose fault will it be, the cats, or the uncovered meat’s? The uncovered meat is the disaster. If the meat was covered the cats wouldn’t roam around it. If the meat is inside the fridge, they won’t get it.”

Fucking WORST analogy EVER. My gawd. Nothing short of appalling. My eyes bulged about three feet out of my head when I read this for the first time. I can’t seem to get over the shock of such statements.

Rhiannon

October 26, 2006 at 5:32 pm

Actualy the worst part was where he said the judges who gave the “cats” 50 years of jail time were lacking in mercy, because it was the fault of the meat, obviously

Not to denegrate *real* cats or anything but isn’t it also debasing of men to refer to them as animals with no self control?

Haystacks

October 26, 2006 at 5:37 pm

wait…are my breasts the meat, or is all of me the meat?

And If I grab a guy, knock him unconious, and rape him with my dildo, it’s ok right? I mean, he should not have tempeted me with his sexy sexy manliness.

Answer 3: That would never happen because men’s bodies aren’t naturally tempting like women’s are, and because women possess a passive sexuality and men possess an aggressive one. Can’t help it, it’s nature!

“However the Sheikh later clarified his comments, telling the newspaper he only meant to refer to prostitutes as meat, and not any scantily clad woman without a hijab.”

So if you put a rental sign on the meat and someone steals it … no, wait, I’m still confused by the mysterious person who put the meat out in the first place. It’s not the woman, because she’s the meat and you can’t really be both the actor and the object. It’s not the rapist, because he’s an innocent kitty. Are we down to blaming God for the meat’s being out there? Terrible thing for a religious leader to say.

Carl

November 1, 2006 at 12:03 am

“Satan sees women as half his soldiers. You’re my messenger in necessity, Satan tells women you‘re my weapon to bring down any stubborn man. There are men that I fail with. But you’re the best of my weapons.”

And the other half would be…? No, couldn’t be men. Probably cats. Those pesky little soldiers of Satan, always satanically playing with balls of wool and drinking saucers of milk…

Actually I would read it as “a woman is half human and half Satan’s soldier” or starts out as already being halfway to hell. It fits well with the rest of the comment about using a woman on a stubborn man, someone he’s not able to budge without help. The quote would be “Satan sees women as half of his soldiers.” to mean it the way you’re thinking based on your comment.