2 should be enough, out in, and a link to more if required. or people are interested.

I Personally browse here for variety and inspiration. TBH I don't get this from the mega posters whose pedals look very similar. don't mean to offend Shortscale I like what you are doing. maybe only post when it's different. lyons only seems to post a fraction of his builds and they are always interesting. I think some of the fabbed boards, produced looking pedals that turn up don't need so many pics. also puts off the new builders posting as it sets the standard rather high. hmmm, rambling a bit and not posting pics, sorry.

2 should be enough, out in, and a link to more if required. or people are interested.

I Personally browse here for variety and inspiration. TBH I don't get this from the mega posters whose pedals look very similar. don't mean to offend Shortscale I like what you are doing. maybe only post when it's different. lyons only seems to post a fraction of his builds and they are always interesting. I think some of the fabbed boards, produced looking pedals that turn up don't need so many pics. also puts off the new builders posting as it sets the standard rather high. hmmm, rambling a bit and not posting pics, sorry.

2c

I find new builders pics far more interesting than another IC Muff from Shortscale (sorry you're taking the heat this time, there are definitely a few others that should/could be named here).

As an example of the "other" kind, take FC, we see bunch of pictures from new designs as well as schematics and input to the community, but like Lyon and other pro or semi pro builders they don't sprinkle this thread with every pedal they build. Post when you have something new to show us (even if it's just new to you) and share your knowledge with the community.

I personally don't have a problem with "stamps" and logos on the pictures, but I too have scrolled past the twentieth IC Muff shot from ten angles (or were they ten new IC Muffs?) and gone "Yeah yeah, show me something new".

2 should be enough, out in, and a link to more if required. or people are interested.

I Personally browse here for variety and inspiration. TBH I don't get this from the mega posters whose pedals look very similar. don't mean to offend Shortscale I like what you are doing. maybe only post when it's different. lyons only seems to post a fraction of his builds and they are always interesting. I think some of the fabbed boards, produced looking pedals that turn up don't need so many pics. also puts off the new builders posting as it sets the standard rather high. hmmm, rambling a bit and not posting pics, sorry.

2c

I find new builders pics far more interesting than another IC Muff from Shortscale (sorry you're taking the heat this time, there are definitely a few others that should/could be named here).

As an example of the "other" kind, take FC, we see bunch of pictures from new designs as well as schematics and input to the community, but like Lyon and other pro or semi pro builders they don't sprinkle this thread with every pedal they build. Post when you have something new to show us (even if it's just new to you) and share your knowledge with the community.

I personally don't have a problem with "stamps" and logos on the pictures, but I too have scrolled past the twentieth IC Muff shot from ten angles (or were they ten new IC Muffs?) and gone "Yeah yeah, show me something new".

ShortScaleMike has posted several times (yes, in the pictures thread) about the materials he uses and the types of modifications he's done to his builds when others have asked, so he's contributing in that way. And if he wants to advertise, I don't think a DIY forum is getting him very far. You can complain about the volume of his posts, but I'd stop short of questioning his motives. I for one have benefited from a few of his posts.

from what i have noticed - usually people who post lots of photos of the same pedal are the ones who have put in the most effort.

people who take extra photos of close-ups are the ones who pay attention to detail (we all want to see that)

people who put logos on every photo usually have the best taken shots on nice cameras and bother to do some nice editing work in photoshop.

there's no consumption of bandwidth. look back to page 1 where we all used 800x600 screens with a dialup or basic broadband modem. those photos (that are left) are like old camera phone shots. now people have screens closer to 1920 wide and dialup doesn't exist any more.

it doesn't hurt for somebody to take pride in their work and show it off. especially if it's outstanding work! just scroll the page down a little faster when you are viewing it.

as for shots of the pro-fabbed boards, i at least know i'm interested in them. i like DIY boards, DIY work etc much more but when i see the amount of highly thought out layout effort tightly jammed together i feel impressed more so than someone's tube screamer or fuzz face clone which they probably just copied a project file off the net to make.

Yep, I figured it would be a mixed bag, with people who are cool with mostly-commercial builders posting at a DIY forum, and others who find it to be in poor taste. Obviously, I'm not a fan, although I'm sure they're nice folks. To me, Do It Yourself really means Do It For Yourself, and when you've stopped doing it for yourself, you've stopped DIYing. Obviously, plenty of room for differing opinions.

I'm not suggesting that certain people shouldn't be allowed to post, or anything even close to that. But there is a whole forum for pictures now. It seems reasonable that the people who are building more for sale than for keeps could have a topic for their commercial builds. They could post pictures of their 50th build of the month or their "custom shop" pedals without burying the posts of new members who, brimming with pride, generally end up being ignored.

I have no problem with pro builders posting pictures, hell, if MXR wants to come here and post images of their new pedals (or even better, their prototypes), I'll happily accept that. What I don't want is for this thread to be a live webcam of their production line.

Yep, I figured it would be a mixed bag, with people who are cool with mostly-commercial builders posting at a DIY forum, and others who find it to be in poor taste. Obviously, I'm not a fan, although I'm sure they're nice folks. To me, Do It Yourself really means Do It For Yourself, and when you've stopped doing it for yourself, you've stopped DIYing. Obviously, plenty of room for differing opinions.

I'm not suggesting that certain people shouldn't be allowed to post, or anything even close to that. But there is a whole forum for pictures now. It seems reasonable that the people who are building more for sale than for keeps could have a topic for their commercial builds. They could post pictures of their 50th build of the month or their "custom shop" pedals without burying the posts of new members who, brimming with pride, generally end up being ignored.

Should have just started a new topic...

Mike

AGREED!

I think people on the forum would get restless if I posted the SAME TS circuit 20 times in a month with only different knobs or a different paint job!

March 28th: Here is my GREEN Tubescreamer that I built for Joe Smith (12 pictures to follow)March 30th: Here is my BLUE Tubescreamer that I built for John Jones (11 pictures to follow)April 3rd: Here is another GREEN Tubescreamer that I built for Bob Thomas (9 pictures to follow)April 5th: Here is a combined LPB and Tubescreamer that I built for Ronald McDonald (13 pictures to follow)

I am not saying that "commercial" builders should be banned from posting. Quite the contrary! I agree with Mike that they should have their own section of the forum. Sometimes, the more "commercial" builders have tips to offer.

As for the multiple pictures. I really do not see it as anything more than a vanity/advertising thing. I don't buy into the "greater appreciation for detail." idea. I mean.... does anyone really want ot see closeups of the white washers and the 3PDT?

I would say that an overall picture and a gut-shot is good enough for just about anyone. Maybe a 3rd pic to highlight some odd feature of the build (Like a skillfully placed midi port)

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I thought people might be interested, generally I only post images of some of my more interesting builds here - but if people are bothered, I'll stop.

However to suggest I'm advertising - on a DIY stompbox forum - is certainly a new one on me. I'm flattered you think I'm a commercial success - I build pedals in my bedroom like many of you, and have a day job.

I've also done many veroboard layouts and shared them with the DIY community (my name is Mike Livesley), but I mostly post on FSB.org, as I assume a lot of you guys also do. I figured this was a reasonable place to share photos. And I post a lot in this thread about other people's builds and answering questions abuot finishing and decals for those interested here.

But - point taken, I'll not post anything else to this thread. I guess my 31st birthday is as good a day as any to bow out.Take it easyM

I thought people might be interested, generally I only post images of some of my more interesting builds here - but if people are bothered, I'll stop.

However to suggest I'm advertising - on a DIY stompbox forum - is certainly a new one on me. I'm flattered you think I'm a commercial success - I build pedals in my bedroom like many of you, and have a day job.

I've also done many veroboard layouts and shared them with the DIY community (my name is Mike Livesley), but I mostly post on FSB.org, as I assume a lot of you guys also do. I figured this was a reasonable place to share photos. And I post a lot in this thread about other people's builds and answering questions abuot finishing and decals for those interested here.

But - point taken, I'll not post anything else to this thread. I guess my 31st birthday is as good a day as any to bow out.Take it easyM

I am not saying that "commercial" builders should be banned from posting. Quite the contrary! I agree with Mike that they should have their own section of the forum. Sometimes, the more "commercial" builders have tips to offer.

As for the multiple pictures. I really do not see it as anything more than a vanity/advertising thing. I don't buy into the "greater appreciation for detail." idea. I mean.... does anyone really want ot see closeups of the white washers and the 3PDT?

I would say that an overall picture and a gut-shot is good enough for just about anyone. Maybe a 3rd pic to highlight some odd feature of the build (Like a skillfully placed midi port)

No need to "Bow out." Sorry if you feel ganged up on. Just saying that perhaps another thread for these types of posts are better suited.

Happy B-day BTW!

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Perrow, Govmnt_Lacky, .Mike.. - guys, if you think the pictures thread with all those well-intentioned rules you sugest is a good idea, feel free to create one and rule there there all day long, but please don't mess this one - thanks

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