I was inspired by a few conversations on here, as well as the Catwoman versus thread.

So I'm a bit curious where people stand in terms of the two villains from the last two Batman films. If you had to choose one, who would it be, which villain is the better villain for Batman. Heath Ledger's Joker or Bane from TDKR? The clown prince of crime and agent of chaos or the mumbling, ex-communicated Al Ghul lackey himself, Bane? Which villain to you pick and why? Which one was more interesting for you when pitted up against the Dark Knight.

While normally, I'd like both characters and would want a "both" option, in this case, I'd go with the Joker, no contest. I'm in the minority but Bane just bugs me. It's like they tried to up the ante in terms of what the villain was capable of doing (especially with the cities destruction) but I don't think you could ever top the Joker's charisma, televised threats and chaos or his relationship as the antithesis to Batman. Blocked off Gotham with a nuke and armed mercs? Pfft, Joker took control with panic, bullets, bombs and crazies.

Also didn't go out in a lame fashion.

Come on milost. You're better than that. So, so bias.

Anyways, it's the Joker. I think it was always going to be the Joker, but had Bane not been given the shaft after Talia's reveal, I believe he would have been a better all around villain. Albeit, at number two.

If anything, the bigger question is who was the more important villain - Joker or Ra's?