The conviction of a Pakistani doctor who tried to help the CIA locate the hiding place of Osama bin Laden is further exacerbating tensions between Washington and Islamabad and could affect U.S. ability to negotiate a deal with Pakistan over re-opening NATO supply lines, senior U.S. officials told CNN.

Dr. Shakil Afridi on Wednesday was convicted of treason for having assisted the United States in trying to uncover the location of the terror leader last year under the guise of a vaccination campaign in Abbottabad, Pakistan. He was sentenced to 33 years by a tribal court in northwestern Pakistan, and sent to prison in Peshawar following the ruling.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Defense Secretary Leon Panetta have both spoken of their concern for Afridi, and have called for his release.

Clinton said Thursday that the United States "does not believe there is any basis for holding Dr. Afridi."
"His help, after all, was instrumental in taking down one of the world's most notorious murderers."

"This action by Dr. Afridi helped to bring about the end of the reign of terror - designed and executed by bin Laden - (and) was not in anyway a betrayal of Pakistan. ... We will continue to press it with the government of Pakistan."

Senior U.S. officials said Afridi worked with the United States prior to the bin Laden raid, but was never asked to spy on Pakistan and was only asked to help locate al-Qaeda terrorists posing a threat to both Pakistan and the United States.

"Over the course of his several years of service, Dr. Afridi was able to provide valuable information on al Qaeda in the FATA, the group's safe-haven," a senior U.S. official with knowledge of Afridi's activities in Pakistan told CNN. "Dr. Afridi was inadvertently able to confirm something we already suspected - that bin Laden's couriers practiced extraordinary operational security. Was that a key to the raid? No. Was it important? Absolutely."

Another senior U.S. official with knowledge of counterterrorism operations against al Qaeda in Pakistan told CNN that Afridi "helped save Pakistani and American lives. His activities were not treasonous, they were heroic and patriotic."

Afridi's conviction adds to an already-damaged and fractured relationship between the United States and Pakistan. Relations between the two countries essentially froze last November following the accidental killing of Pakistani soldiers in a NATO airstrike. Pakistan in turn closed supply lines into Afghanistan that NATO used to support the war effort.

Senior administration officials pointed to Clinton's statement about the ruling, which she made unprompted by any questions from journalists, as evidence of the seriousness with which the U.S. takes the issue.

Senior State Department officials have pointed to her remarks and reinforced her message in subsequent calls with Pakistani officials, the senior administration officials said.

"We are saying exactly along the lines of what she said," one senior official said. "We tell the Pakistanis they have agreed bin Laden should not have been in their country and we could easily argue that they should have been helping us get him. This case colors the attitude of the U.S. government, but also of the U.S. Congress at budget time."

Congressional outrage was in full force Thursday as the Senate Appropriations Committee voted to cut $33 million from the military aid package to Pakistan.

The figure derived from Afridi's 33-year sentence.

The 30-0 roll call was based on an amendment to the Senate version of the State and Foreign Operations Appropriations bill. The amendment calls for the $33 million to be upheld until "the Secretary of State reports to the Committees on Appropriations that Dr. Shakil Afridi has been released from prison and cleared of all charges relating to the assistance provided to the United States in locating Osama bin Laden."

"For them to do what they did signals this is a pretty big issue," the senior administration official said.

Officials said Afridi's case could tie U.S. hands to negotiate a deal with Pakistan to reopen its border with Afghanistan to military shipments of departing NATO forces, which would resolve a sticky issue in planning the withdrawal of foreign forces.

Pakistan closed the ground routes after a NATO airstrike in November killed two dozen of its soldiers. NATO insists the incident was an accident. Obama offered his condolences, but refused to apologize.

The United States and Pakistan have not come to an agreement on the price of reopening the supply lines, known as the ground lines of communication or GLOCs. The senior U.S. officials said the deal is essentially done except for agreement on a fee for trucks that cross the border. Pakistan was requesting $5,000 per truck as a condition to reopen the supply lines between the two South Asian countries but previously, the United States had been paying just a "small fraction" of the requested fee and is not expected to pay the stiff fees, officials said.

"We are talking now about the GLOCs but the Afridi issue could hurt our ability to negotiate a deal," the second senior U.S. official said. "If Congress did what it did yesterday, what else are they going to do?

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Yes, Pakistan and USA are fighting shoulder to shoulder the terrorists that are financed by India. Don't try to create schism between them, you meek Indian. pakistan has sacrificed over 200,000 lives for the americans while the Indian army is hiding in trenches scared of talibans.

Pakistan “RISING” has established itself as part of a very dynamic regional paradigm amalgamating it geographically with Central Asia, Middle East and Europe. While also situated at the gateway to the Arabian Gulf, Pakistan will also have access to the waters of the Caspian Sea, Mediterranean Sea, Black Sea, Arabian Sea, China Sea and the Pacific Ocean. This positions Pakistan at the crossroads to peace and prosperity in the world and economic well-being as well as military clout.

Meanwhile, as a nation, India is geographically, culturally and politically trapped, isolated and encircled. Now that it has been cut off from rest of Asia, the Indians (unfortunately) have nowhere to go but into the ocean. A look at a map conveys the inevitability of this scenario. For India to survive, it has no choice but to have excellent relations with Pakistan. This is a matter of time. The question is whether Pakistan has a big heart to accommodate the very survival of India/Hindu race. Perhaps not this time around.

Wow!! This is a classic example how Pakistanis are ignorant of what's going on in their own country. They simply put their head in the sand thinking no one knows their support of terrorists with in Pakistan border. Until they start fighting terrorists in their own country and get rid of them, they have no where else to go but down and get humilated by rest of the world. With in a matter of years, they will join the ranks of "pariah" states like N.Korea and Iran..

Bizarre child-burying Hindu ceremony in India
CNN:
Indian police have charged 80 people for burying children alive in an ancient Hindu ceremony known as "the festival of pits."
The ceremony, in which children - some less than a year old - are buried alive briefly and then dug up, happened on Monday in southern Tamil Nadu state, The Asian Age reported on Thursday.

Every two years, parents who have vowed to bury their first-born if they are blessed with a child, take part in the Kuzhimattru Thiru Vizha ceremony.
The children are drugged to make them unconscious and placed in shallow "graves" in temple courtyards.
The pits are covered with leaves and dirt and the children are pulled out after Hindu priests chant a brief prayer - lasting up to a minute.

In the news:
Children buried alive in Hindu ritual

May 29, 2012 at 9:26 am |

Mo the Pedo

General Kayani publicly promised to shoot down the drones if ever the drones violated the Pakistani airspace and hence its sovereignty. Somehow, the drones are still striking their targets in Pakistan several times a week. General Kayani is laughing all the way to the bank, This is a win-win arrangement.

Chinese soldiers slapped an Indian General and bulldozed the wall they had built at border. The rest of Indian sepoys ran away leaving the General behind. LOL. Typical Indian cowards. Chinese using indians as punching bags.!!!

Two separate US drone attacks killed at least nine militants in Pakistan’s northwestern tribal region near the Afghan border Monday May 28th, 2012, security officials said. Pakistani militatants have an uncanny knack to stand completely still while the drones take aim. We thank Pakistani militants for their cooperation who make these strike so price and successful. Thank you.

The Chinese have developed an antidote to the "Stink Bomb"threats from hindus. Billions of american skunks on steroids that will be let loose in India to neutralize the stench.Though I am not sure it will be strong enough.

Hinduism is a CULT....communal sex, drugs, medieval and barbaric values, worship every tom dick and harry. The world has rejected Hinduism and concentrated it in one location so it is easy to get rid of when time comes. Islam has the largest following in the world and the fastest growing religion.

I think you are being too emotional as is evident from your vitriol. India must cease financing the terrorists and address the Kashmir genocide issue (among others such as Tamils, Maoists etc.) in order for peace to prevail in south asia. It appears to me that Pakistan considers India as an insignificant player in the region (except for nuisance value) and has gotten away from the south asian model. It is poised, per my model @ 15% clip – GDP growth – when all cylinders start firing next 12 months. What differentiates Pakistanis from India is that Pakistanis think BIG and have BIG hearts. Pettiness is not in their DNA.

Pakistan and US ties will improve. Pakistan has offered targets for drone practice 3 times this week. Even after the Pakistani House and Senate decided to ban the drone strikes on Pakistani soil, Pakistan has kindly allowed five or more strikes since March. Pakistanis have opened their hearts and have invited the drones with open arms. I have no doubt, we are win the hearts and minds of Pakistanis with the precision and efficiency of the drones.

LIPSTICK ON A PIG: The Story of India
There is so only so much one can do to make a pig look pretty
Slapping some lipstick is the epitomy.
India is mired in sewage and poverty.
GDP growth GDP growth
Has done nothing but made the people loathe.
Lipstick on a Pig is the Indian way
The nukes will soon blow it away.

Where would the drone technology be without the testing services provided by Pakistan? Pakistan's contributions have been invaluable to the US for perfecting the drone technology. We thank you, Pakistan.

We are Hindus from India,
And we like to put on the Bindiya,
We are mostly Haris,
But we like to put on the Saris,
Sadly, we are nothing but Bhikaris,
Sadly, we are nothing but Bhikaris,
We take the Americans to Heart,
But get nothing in return except a F@rt,
So we tend to kiss the American @ss,
Again, we get nothing in return except the American gas,
But we keep on kissing the Yankee @ss
Lickin the American @ss.

We sincerely thank Pakistan for allowing its citizens be used for drone practice. Those high school drop outs in Nevada equipped only with video game experience need a lot of practice to control the sophisticated drones. Thank you for providing the invaluable testing service to our rising stars in the US army. We thank you, Pakistan.

The world does not recognize and appreciate Pakistan's contribution to the War on Terror.
Pakistan has invented a 3-step program to fight terrorism:
1. Pakistan attracts terrorists from around the world like a giant magnet.
2. Pakistan harbors and nurtures terrorists on its soil.
3. Then, Pakistan selflessly, for a fee, offers those terrorist for target practice for the US drones.
And the world, which is often too busy celebrating the success of drones, neglects to appreciate the Pakistani contributions.
Thank you, Pakistan.

As you will recall, the Bhopal Tragedy whereby Dow Chemical Company (An American Company) used India as a guinea pig and released (mistakenly?!) tons of chemicals (CMDs, WMDs) in the air to test its effectiveness thus killing, maiming, injuring, disabling millions of hindus.

The Indians set the example for western nations to consider their population as guines pigs. That is the dilemma Pakistan is facing. Bad example set by Indians.

I do remember that incident. The sad part was some Indian politician took bribe from Americans and let the CEO of the compnay leave the country. These hindus will sell their mama for a few bucks. Pathetic race. No culture no values. No wonder the Mughals enslaved them for centuries, then British, Pakistanis and now Americans. Chinese are next on the list when NATO leaves the region.

Bhopal is infested with muslims. Almost all of the people who died in the gas tragedy were muslims. You seem to doubt whether the gas was released mistankenly(?!) by the US... Is your conspiracy theory right? Are you suggesting that the US has something against the muslims everywhere?

Shameful that Indians can't even protect their population. I agree with the comments in this forum that India needs to be imploded as it is too inefficient to be governed by hindus due to its large population. Another muslim state needs to emerge from India that can protect its people and be dynamic and economically viable.

Well, I don't think Pakistan is going to take it lying down as Indians do from Americans. From my stay in Pakistan i found them to be a very proud, dignified, kind and brave nation. But don't cross their paths, please. If you do they will come after you. To me that is a sign of a leader so badly needed in thst region.

WE SALUTE YOU, PAKISTAN......The Americans acknowledge the innumerable sacrifices made by Pakistanis in this ongoing war. The Americans appreciate the bullets taken on the chest by the Pakistanis in fighting the enemy. The Americans appreciate the ultimate sacrifices made by Pakistanis in sacrificing their lives while trying to make America and the world safe.

We sincerely thank Pakistan for allowing its citizens be used for drone practice. Those high school drop outs in Nevada equipped only with video game experience need a lot of practice to control the sophisticated drones. Thank you for providing the invaluable testing service to our rising stars in the US army. We thank you, Pakistan.

Where would the drone technology be without the testing services provided by Pakistan? Pakistan's contributions have been invaluable to the US for perfecting the drone technology. We thank you, Pakistan.

Pakistan “RISING” has established itself as part of a very dynamic regional paradigm amalgamating it geographically with Central Asia, Middle East and Europe. While also situated at the gateway to the Arabian Gulf, Pakistan will also have access to the waters of the Caspian Sea, Mediterranean Sea, Black Sea, Arabian Sea, China Sea and the Pacific Ocean. This positions Pakistan at the crossroads to peace and prosperity in the world and economic well-being as well as military clout.

GOD BLESS PAKISTAN,
Land that we love.
Stand beside her, and guide her
Thru the night with a light from above.
From Kashmir to Karachi and onto New Delhi,
And to the oceans, white with foam
GOD BLESS PAKISTAN, Our home sweet home.

PAKISTAN.....The New Gateway to Central Asia and Europe.
With a population of over 180 million most of whom are well educated, English speaking, entrepreneurial and a cultural and social fit with Central Asians...Pakistan will now become the new face and gateway to Central Asia and Europe. Pakistan will thus span this region and provide the impetus for growth, prosperity and unity among these countries. These are new and exciting times for Pakistanis who should now look forward to their new leadership role aligned with Central Asia and Europe rather than the Subcontinent. We wish them much success as they have sacrificed the most during the past 30 + years creating a new world order.

The world does not recognize and appreciate Pakistan's contribution to the War on Terror.
Pakistan has invented a 3-step program to fight terrorism:
1. Pakistan attracts terrorists from around the world like a giant magnet.
2. Pakistan harbors and nurtures terrorists on its soil.
3. Then, Pakistan selflessly, for a fee, offers those terrorist for target practice for the US drones.
And the world, which is often too busy celebrating the success of drones, neglects to appreciate the Pakistani contributions.
Thank you, Pakistan.

The Sri Ram Sene was one of the most active groups that launched a series of attacks on Christians and their property in and around Mangalore city in the southern state of Karnataka in August-September 2008, according to a report, “The Ugly Face of Sangh Parivar,” published by the People’s Union of Civil Liberties (PUCL), in March 2009. In Jabalpur city in the central state of Madhya Pradesh, suspected extremists from the Abhinav Bharat attacked the Rhema Gospel Church on Sept. 28, according to the Global Council of Indian Christians. They had earlier attacked Pastor Sam Oommen and his family in the same city on Aug. 3.

The Hindu Dharam Sena has become especially terrifying for Christians in Jabalpur. Between 2006 and 2008, Jabalpur was plagued by at least three anti-Christian attacks every month, according to The Caravan magazine. In the western state of Gujarat and other parts of the country, the Rashtriya Jagran Manch has also violently attacked Christians, according to news website Counter Currents.

Christians concerned as rightwing factions splinter to form militant outfits.
PUNE, India, October 29 (CDN) — After more than a decade of severe persecution, India’s Christian minority is growing increasingly concerned over the mushrooming of newer and deadlier Hindu extremist groups.

Gone are the days when Christians had to watch out only for the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (World Hindu Council) and its youth wing, Bajrang Dal, which are closely linked with the most influential Hindu extremist umbrella organization, the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS). With voter support faltering for the RSS’s political wing, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), moderate and extremist sections within the Hindu nationalist movement are blaming each other, and militant splinter groups have emerged.

Claiming to be breakaway factions of the RSS, new groups with even more extreme ideology are surfacing. The Abhinav Bharat (Pride of India), the Rashtriya Jagran Manch (National Revival Forum), the Sri Ram Sene (Army of god Rama), the Hindu Dharam Sena (Army for Hindu Religion) and the Sanatan Sanstha (Eternal Organization) have launched numerous violent attacks on Christian and Muslim minorities.

At an ecumenical meeting held in New Delhi on Saturday (Oct. 24), the secretary general of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of India, Archbishop Stanislaus Fernandes, said the rise of fundamentalism was “seriously worrying” the church in India. The meeting was held to discuss prospects for immediate enactment of federal legislation to counter religious extremism with the proposed Communal Violence (Prevention, Control and Rehabilitation of Victims) Bill.

Pakistan and US ties will improve. Pakistan has offered targets for drone practice 3 times this week. Even after the Pakistani House and Senate decided to ban the drone strikes on Pakistani soil, Pakistan has kindly allowed five or more strikes since March. Pakistanis have opened their hearts and have invited the drones with open arms. I have no doubt, we are win the hearts and minds of Pakistanis with the precision and efficiency of the drones.

DEMISE OF INDIA: The aftermath of Afghanistan invasion
The American invasion of Afghanistan brought to the forefront the irrelevance of India as a nation. With a population of over 1.2 billion people there was no value that this nation could bring to the table. Their soldiers (ragtag) 1.2million continue hiding in the trenches scared from Talibans. A few teenage Talibans invaded the country and held it hostage for days on end showing how useless India is. It was embarrasing for the world to observe this humiliation of a nation that was being touted as a regional power. The Talibans brought them down in a few days with some BB guns. It is all over for India. Its demise is in process and should be completed with Afghanistan withdrawal

The world does not recognize and appreciate Pakistan's contribution to the War on Terror.
1. Pakistan attracts terrorists from around the world like a giant magnet.
2. Pakistan harbors and nurtures terrorists on its soil.
3. Then, Pakistan selflessly offered those terrorist for target practice for the US drones.
And the world, which is often too busy celebrating the success of drones, neglects to appreciate the Pakistani contributions.
Thank you Pakistan.

As you will recall, the Bhopal Tragedy whereby Dow Chemical Company (An American Company) used India as a guinea pig and released (mistakenly?!) tons of chemicals (CMDs, WMDs) in the air to test its effectiveness thus killing, maiming, injuring, disabling millions of hindus.

The Indians set the example for western nations to consider their population as guines pigs. That is the dilemma Pakistan is facing. Bad example set by Indians.

Now Pakistan is conveying the message to US/NATO that Paksitan will tolerate any deaths of its citizens at the hands of foreigners. US/NATO need to understand that this is not cowardly and meek India they are dealing with.....this is Pakistan they are messing with. DON'T MESS WITH PAKISTAN.....People!!!! US/Nato were obviously not expecting such a strong response from Pakistanis. This ain't nothing yet, folks
Pakistan's response so far has been swift, strong and meaningful to the US/NATO et al. Americans kicked out of the airbase, logistic supply support halted to Afghanistan, US ambassador spanked. More to follow...stay tuned.

Bhopal is infested with muslims. Almost all of the people who died in the gas tragedy were muslims. You seem to doubt whether the gas was released mistankenly(?!) by the US... Is your conspiracy theory right? Are you suggesting that the US has something against the muslims everywhere?

The bottom line is that the only way to have peace in Afghanistan and lessen regional tension is split India into pieces. It has become too big to govern or create any value for western countries or even for its own population. We have invested a lot of resources in India over the past two decades and given a lot of aid to prop it up. There has been no investment on this return. Instead India has squandered all the resources in building nuclear weapons while poverty remains rampant in the country. We need to revisit our relationship with India. American taxpayers will not tolerate this anymore. We need to take care of our own populace going forward. We cannot be exporting jobs to India or giving it financial or technical handouts.

May 28, 2012 at 3:49 pm |

Indian

Sure. It is that dream to do harm to India which keeps Pakistan happy as a clam in spite of the darkness of ignorance and load shedding.

May 28, 2012 at 4:01 pm |

Mo the Pedo

Where would the drone technology be without the testing services provided by Pakistan? Pakistan's contributions have been invaluable to the US to perfect the drone technology. We thank you, Pakistan.

The Sri Ram Sene was one of the most active groups that launched a series of attacks on Christians and their property in and around Mangalore city in the southern state of Karnataka in August-September 2008, according to a report, “The Ugly Face of Sangh Parivar,” published by the People’s Union of Civil Liberties (PUCL), in March 2009. In Jabalpur city in the central state of Madhya Pradesh, suspected extremists from the Abhinav Bharat attacked the Rhema Gospel Church on Sept. 28, according to the Global Council of Indian Christians. They had earlier attacked Pastor Sam Oommen and his family in the same city on Aug. 3.

The Hindu Dharam Sena has become especially terrifying for Christians in Jabalpur. Between 2006 and 2008, Jabalpur was plagued by at least three anti-Christian attacks every month, according to The Caravan magazine. In the western state of Gujarat and other parts of the country, the Rashtriya Jagran Manch has also violently attacked Christians, according to news website Counter Currents.

He found the terrorist. That is no treason. He is a hero. Pollard did not find any terrorist.

May 28, 2012 at 3:30 pm |

Judge and Jury

In India you may accept treason as part of your backstabbing and double dealing culture. In the civilized world it is a crime of utmost repulsion accompanied by death penalty....at least life. Ya don't spy for a foreign country in your own country.

May 28, 2012 at 3:46 pm |

Indian Cowgirl

No matter how you slice it, India is a Shiv Sena republic with an extremist bent. These are Noveau Nazis with a Hindu twist. We will hunt these BhaRATs down dead or alive, in George Bush’s lingo.

Pakistan was created as a place to test, improve and perfect the drone technology. Pakistan has been serving its only useful purpose quite well. Thank you, thank you, thank you, Pakistan. Pakistan's skill to hold steady while the drones take aim is commendable. Can any other country ever do that?

Yes. India !!! As you will recall the Bhopal Tragedy whereby Dow Chemical Company (An American Company) used India as a guinea pig and released (mistakenly?!) tons of chemicals (CMDs, WMDs) in the air to test its effectiveness thus killing, maiming, injuring, disabling millions of hindus.

The Indians set the example for western nations to consider their population as guines pigs. That is the dilemma Pakistan is facing. Bad example set by Indians.

Now Pakistan is conveying the message to US/NATO that Paksitan will tolerate any deaths of its citizens at the hands of foreigners. US/NATO need to understand that this is not cowardly and meek India they are dealing with.....this is Pakistan they are messing with. DON'T MESS WITH PAKISTAN.....People!!!! US/Nato were obviously not expecting such a strong response from Pakistanis. This ain't nothing yet, folks
Pakistan's response so far has been swift, strong and meaningful to the US/NATO et al. Americans kicked out of the airbase, logistic supply support halted to Afghanistan, US ambassador spanked. More to follow...stay tuned.

I thought hindus were marwaris...don't like to spend money...if they have any? Muth baaz baniyaas...LMAO !!!!! They would rather play with themselves for enjoyment...if you git ma jist. ROTFL !!!!!!!!

May 28, 2012 at 3:57 pm |

Ashamed to be an Indian

India is infested with so many people it reminds one of cattle. On top of that these hindus can't keep themselves out of medieval and barbaric news and practices. First, $ex trafficking of young girls, then worship of rats, drinking of cow uR#ne, leaving scores of sick patients behind to burn in a hospital fire, and on and on. We need to bring Indians into the modern world even though it may take centuries.

Hinduism is a CULT....communal sex, drugs, medieval and barbaric values, worship every tom dick and harry. The world has rejected Hinduism and concentrated it in one location so it is easy to get rid of when time comes. Islam has the largest following in the world and the fastest growing religion. You are most welcome to embrace it...visit your nearest mosque. They do have a home visit program with appointments.

People...on a humorous note... enjoy the following article. BTW this guy Sharad Pawar is the same as in ICC (Int'l Cricket Council) aka king of cricketing corruption
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NEW DELHI: A man slapped India’s agriculture minister in the face on Thursday, apparently to draw attention to rising food prices and corruption.
Sharad Pawar was talking to reporters at a political function when the man attacked him. TV news reports said the man was shouting slogans about inflated food prices and graft.
Television footage showed the man brandishing a knife as he was dragged away by security officials and Pawar’s aides.
“Don’t you know why I hit him? The common man is distressed. Am I wrong?” he shouted as he was being taken away.
CNN-IBN TV reported that the man was detained by police. Pawar was not seriously hurt.
“You are all corrupt… People are fed up,” the man said, adding that the Indian government must adopt a tough anti-graft law being considered by lawmakers.
Such incidents have become increasingly common in India, where ministers and other officials have had shoes thrown at them and their offices ransacked by angry citizens.

Indian police have charged 80 people for burying children alive in an ancient Hindu ceremony known as "the festival of pits."

The ceremony, in which children - some less than a year old - are buried alive briefly and then dug up, happened on Monday in southern Tamil Nadu state, The Asian Age reported on Thursday.

Every two years, parents who have vowed to bury their first-born if they are blessed with a child, take part in the Kuzhimattru Thiru Vizha ceremony.
The children are drugged to make them unconscious and placed in shallow "graves" in temple courtyards.
The pits are covered with leaves and dirt and the children are pulled out after Hindu priests chant a brief prayer - lasting up to a minute.

Someone posted this and I kid you not gave me the creeps. How we Americans in our good senses could be supporting
Indians is beyond comprehension. This makes the talibans look like choir boys. Sickening culture these indians have. We need to pull out our boys from that region and let pakistan take care of India with their nukes.

"The Aghori or Aghouri is a Hindu cult that is considered to have split off from the Kapalika order in the fourteenth century AD. They have cannibalistic rituals. The streets of northern Indian cities are littered with followers of this cult carrying a kapala, which is a cup made from a skull! These bizarre people will eat anything from rotten food to animal faeces. In order to achieve the highest citadel of enlightenment, the Aghori will perform horrendously crude rituals. The finality of their rituals is attained from eating the decaying flesh of a human."

As far as I know Pakistan did take half of Kashmir from India without using nukes. Another portion was taken by China. You need to wake up swami before pakistan takes the rest of Kashmir. LOLZZZZZ !!!!

So the only way to peace in Afghanistan is dismantling the terrorist network and financing emanating from India, cutting it up into smaller nations along the lines of communist USSR and let smaller and more gentle and economically dynamic states emerge, stopping the genocide in Kashmir of muslim children/women, subjugation of minorities, prosecution of Christians and Muslims. Furthermore the ridiculously large and ineffective Indian army needs to be dismantled and put to use in assisting the poverty stricken masses and not sitting in trenches hiding from Talibans.

I am afraid, extremism will continue to fester in south central asia and continue to become a threat for the western nations. We have been fighting a war for the past ten years with no end. Our soldiers have shed blood to no end. Their families are suffering. Has even one Indian soldier sacrificed his life in helping the Americans, NATO and western countries in fighting this war? The answer is a resolute NO. Folks, just think about it, 1.2 million Indian Army soldiers are sitting in trenches doing what???? Sure the heck beats me. Americans are now questioning the US Congress as to what they are doing to correct this unsustainable relationship with India. The India caucus is being monitored by citizen groups. If they don't respond to the needs of the American people political contributions to them will be severely impacted.

The bottom line is that the only way to have peace in Afghanistan and lessen regional tension is slice India into pieces. It has become too big to govern and create any value for western countries or even for its own people. We have invested a lot of resources in India over the past two decades and given a lot of aid to prop it up. There has been no investment on this return. Instead India has squandered all the resources in building nuclear weapons while poverty remains rampant in the country. We need to revisit our relationship with India. American taxpayers will not tolerate this anymore. We need to take care of our own populace going forward. We cannot be exporting jobs to India or giving it financial or technical handouts.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha !!!!! This posting made my day. It is hilarious and so innocent. Why would they waste a nuke on a drone when you have over a billion Indians that can be lit next door. It is a question of cost benefit analysis.

...We MUST get this guy out of stinkin' Pakistan ASAP,................give him a National Award, grant him a $100k a year as long as he lives...................give him a house and set him up for USA education to allow him to practice in the USA. If this guy was American, we would have had a ticker tape parade and the TOP civilian award given him in the White House on national TV in prime time.
WE MUST HELP HIM..............NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Definitely, lets send the navy seals, dolphins, falcons, eagles. What are we waiting for? We all know such things can't happen without the connivance of the host govt. And that ain't gonna happen this time around.

Sir, you seem to be stuck like a broken record. Yes, we should free him. But how? (See my earlier posting for elaboration and revert back to me, please). Are you volunteering? On the other matter that you raise, the issue is treason...per Pakistanis and they do have a point. Hope this clarifies and you can move on to other issues. I would appreciate your feedback on the massacre of Christians by Indian Hindus in Goa and Lucknow.

On moral grounds treason is unacceptable. . The Israeli spy Pollard was given life by Americans who purport to be the epitomy of the civilized world. So why would they judge Pakistan differently? Sure as heck beats me. Maybe they are looking for a free lunch on the transit costs and using this doc as leverage. If they wanted to help this guy, Americans would have pulled him out of the country way back. Typical of Americans, they use friends and spit them out when they have outlived their utility.

On legal grounds, this handsome guy should be given chance to defend himself. If found guilty after due process, in my opinion, the sentence should at least be life and then some

If Pollard was helping find a terrorist, he would have been a hero. He would never spend a minute in jail for doing something as noble as finding a terrorist. Pollard did no such thing whereas the doctor did. The comparison between the two is baseless.

I must say that Pakistan has come of age and showed a lot of guts dealing with us Americans and standing their ground on principles. We are so used of kicking the Indians around a football that we lost track that dignified people even lived in that part of the world. I have never been to those parts and am thinking of visiting Pakistan to understand them better. I am impressed by their righteousness, persistence and perseverance.

Claiming to be breakaway factions of the RSS, new groups with even more extreme ideology are surfacing. The Abhinav Bharat (Pride of India), the Rashtriya Jagran Manch (National Revival Forum), the Sri Ram Sene (Army of god Rama), the Hindu Dharam Sena (Army for Hindu Religion) and the Sanatan Sanstha (Eternal Organization) have launched numerous violent attacks on Christian and Muslim minorities.

Christians concerned as rightwing factions splinter to form militant outfits.
PUNE, India, October 29 (CDN) — After more than a decade of severe persecution, India’s Christian minority is growing increasingly concerned over the mushrooming of newer and deadlier Hindu extremist groups.

Gone are the days when Christians had to watch out only for the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (World Hindu Council) and its youth wing, Bajrang Dal, which are closely linked with the most influential Hindu extremist umbrella organization, the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS). With voter support faltering for the RSS’s political wing, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), moderate and extremist sections within the Hindu nationalist movement are blaming each other, and militant splinter groups have emerged.

WOW. This is eye opening. And Christians have been giving aid to India all these years. Goes to show how degenerated the Indian culture has become. No values...No tolerance. Who wants to visit india anymore. Not me !

YOU THINK MAFIA IS BAD???? I BET THEY NEVER THOUGHT OF WHAT INDIANS/HINDUS DO !!!!

In some Haryana villages in India, the young girls are routinely threatened, abused and killed all under Khap (tribe/clan) verdicts. It is acceptable for the families to feed pesticide pills to the teenage girls and then dispose off their bodies by burning them without any police records.

This is so bad even the Mafia would cringe at such brutality. I mean who messes with women? Pathetic. Boycott indians. Slaps sanctions on India. WHat is human rights doing...Wake up people. This is disaster in the making.

The Aghori or Aghouri is a Hindu cult that is considered to have split off from the Kapalika order in the fourteenth century AD and still practice their dark age culture to this day. They have cannibalistic rituals. The streets of northern Indian cities are littered with followers of this cult carrying a kapala, which is a cup made from a skull! These bizarre people will eat anything from rotten food to animal faeces. In order to achieve the highest citadel of enlightenment, the Aghori will perform horrendously crude rituals. The finality of their rituals is attained from eating the decaying flesh of a human.

I mean, are we in the 21st century for pete's sake? Western nations immediately need to stop all financial aid and technology transfer to India. Close down our embassies. Slap sanctions on this country. Forget Iran...focus on the atrocities in India by Hindus against the Christians.

Among the various charges disclosed in the book: Gandhi not only slept in beds with young women under the age of 18, but also engaged in a long-term, gay affair with German-Jewish architect and bodybuilder Hermann Kallenbach, for whom India's peace icon at one point left his wife in 1908. As the Wall Street Journal reports:

And all these years I though he was a peaceful man. What a fake this dude was. Can you imagine doing it to underage girls including his relatives? Totally unacceptable in western cultures. Take down his statues eveywhere.

What shocked me was a recent news article about an ongoing genocide in India in Kashmir and Lucknow. It is indicative of a total disregard of human lives. I would have thought that this would have ended with Kosovo and Bosnia. Perhaps it is time for USA and NATO to start bombing New Delhi as it did in Kosovo and Bosnia to stop this ethnic cleansing and murders. After all the military assets are nearby in Afghanistan and Bahrain and this could be accomplished with minimal cost. Bodda Bing Bodda Boom

She calls it a “life term” — her marriage. Though divorced now, 31-year-old Shazia (name changed), a British woman born to Pakistani parents, endured nine years of being in a relationship of marital discord that included continuous physical abuse and rape. “There was no compatibility, not even a common language to communicate with,” she says.

Shazia’s story is a typical one. One summer, 14 years ago, she was visiting her ancestral village in Chakwal in the Punjab. “It just happened so suddenly. I had the shock of my life when a week after I arrived I was married off to my first cousin. I think my father was under pressure by his family to marry me off,” she states, completely absolving her father, a taxi driver in London, of the act

The reason Pakistan will never succeed, is because Pakistanis are obsessed with India. Just look at krm007--just so darn obsessed with India...... krm does not want to accept that Pakistan is a failed state. Both India and Pakistan started out in the 1940s with a clean slate. Pakistan turned into a haven for terrorists-mainly driven by their hate for India.

May 27, 2012 at 9:09 pm |

chotta lund mulla khan

Krm is like his ancestors are born to siblings ... watch movie about cousins and sibling sexc between pakistani ,,,

his ammi and abbu are 1st cousins ... i can bet his appa on it 😉

May 28, 2012 at 8:47 am |

Pardon my Ignorance

I bet your name is not for real !!! So what is your beef ????? Have a flank steak and chill....peace bro

Some of the comments below appear to be of Indian origin and are nothing more than abuses, vitriol and full of hatred towards Pakistan. These may be folks in India or Indian immigrants to foreign countries. But the venom is the same. Perhaps that is the norm in some societies but the world has moved on to a better place. Needless to say that people have to digest the fact that Pakistan has emerged as the new leader in the region which is irreversible. USA and India are struggling with this but the infrastructure for this was laid decades ago for all to see. They just didin't and still don't get it. Folks time to still kiss the ring and move on or you will be left behind.

The Pakistanis are so ASHAMED of being Pakistani, they are using false names to post lies and garbage.

May 27, 2012 at 8:58 pm |

Pardon my Ignorance

Why are Christians being massacred in India...Can you explain before pointing fingers at others?

May 28, 2012 at 11:28 am |

krm1007

The more I think about it the more it becomes clear that this Doctor is a smokescreen that is being used by bot Pakistani and American inetlligence agencies to cover up the real informant behind this all. It involves other countries also. The reasons are to buy time tp paint the picture and/or to cover up the real party behind this all. Notice the rapidity of events moving forward between the countries involved negative and positive that were on hold for over 60 years. Hmmmmm

DEMISE OF INDIA: In the Wake of the Afghanistan invasion
The American invasion of Afghanistan brought to the forefront the irrelevance of India as a nation. With a population of over 1.2 billion people there was no value that this nation could bring to the table. Their soldiers (ragtag) 1.2million continue hiding in the trenches scared from Talibans. A few teenage Talibans invaded the country and held it hostage for days on end showing how useless India is. It was embarrasing for the world to observe this humiliation of a nation that was being touted as a regional power. The Talibans brought them down in a few days with some BB guns. It is all over for India. Its demise is in process and should be completed with Afghanistan withdrawal.

Is your name for real.?..Seems like you need a suppository for constipation

May 28, 2012 at 11:30 am |

Swami Gandumurti

INDIAN HINDUS: Bizzare and Medieval Culture

The Aghori or Aghouri is a Hindu cult that is considered to have split off from the Kapalika order in the fourteenth century AD. They have cannibalistic rituals. The streets of northern Indian cities are littered with followers of this cult carrying a kapala, which is a cup made from a skull! These bizarre people will eat anything from rotten food to animal faeces. In order to achieve the highest citadel of enlightenment, the Aghori will perform horrendously crude rituals. The finality of their rituals is attained from eating the decaying flesh of a human.

Looks like you thoroughly researched all the weird and rare stuff you could find about India, if it's even true. But what im concerned about is what passes as normal in a country. The normal in pakistan is what we would consider extremists.

What is your name peaches?....feel free to post it along with your email and cell phone #

May 28, 2012 at 11:31 am |

Swami Gandumurti

Sadly Gandhi

Among the various charges disclosed in the book: Gandhi not only slept in beds with young women under the age of 18, but also engaged in a long-term, gay affair with German-Jewish architect and bodybuilder Hermann Kallenbach, for whom India's peace icon at one point left his wife in 1908. As the Wall Street Journal reports:

In some Haryana villages in India, the young girls are routinely threatened, abused and killed all under Khap (tribe/clan) verdicts. It is acceptable for the families to feed pesticide pills to the teenage girls and then dispose off their bodies by burning them without any police records.

First off, this doctor needs to be awarded a medal by Pakistan and USA. After that is done his current 33 year sentence needs to be appealed. A new case needs to be filed asking for life sentence for this doctor just like Americans did for Jonathan Pollard (caught spying in USA for Israel). There is no place in any country for people who sell their souls to spy for foreign nations. In a civilized world it is called being a traitor. It is simple as that.

Either you are a patriot for bin laden, or you are not. You cant choose to condemn this man and not be pro bin laden. The fact that we had to go in with stealth so you scumbags wouldnt alert him says it all. End our so called alliance or let this man go.

US/NATO need to understand that this is not cowardly and meek India they are dealing with.....this is Pakistan they are messing with. DON'T MESS WITH PAKISTAN.....People!!!! US/Nato were obviously not expecting such a strong response from Pakistanis. This ain't nothing yet, folks

May 27, 2012 at 3:43 pm |

Anti-stupid

Oh please. You can't even run your own country. You have no idea whos in charge, the president, the prime minister, the supreme court, or the military. Your country is a bumblefuk of buffoons.

May 27, 2012 at 3:51 pm |

Anti-stupid

Oooops again. I forgot we are hiding some terrorists in India as we speak...Brahmadagh Bugti, Fazlullah et al. They are beign wined and dined in New Delhi.

May 27, 2012 at 4:06 pm |

No Nonsense American

I am very concerned about the rising extremism in South/Central Asia and the inability of Americans and allies to deal with it. After 10 years of war we are back to square one talking to Talibans. What particulalry concerns me is the emerging hindu fanaticism in India that is threatening Christians. Recent postings in this forum and Google are eye opening how these extremist hindu groups are thriving in India and the government and people are looking the other way. We need to nip this in the bud. Drones need to reprogrammed to start bombing the heck out of India. Goa is a good place to begin as has a substantial number of Christian residents who are victims of extremism by Hindus. Vatican and the Pope needs to get involved and speak up. If we let this linger, we will have a genocide on our hands the likes of Kashmir where hindus are massacring Muslim women and children.For one, I have written letters to all (Congressmen, UN, World bank, IMF, Think Tank Orgs, NGOs etc) to get involved. We immediately need to suspend all financial aid to india including job exports and technology transfer.

"Your portrait (the only one) stands on my mantelpiece in my bedroom," he wrote to Kallenbach. "The mantelpiece is opposite to the bed." For some ­reason, cotton wool and Vaseline were "a constant reminder" of Kallenbach, which Mr. Lelyveld believes might ­relate to the enemas Gandhi gave ­himself, although there could be other, less generous, explanations.
Gandhi wrote to Kallenbach about "how completely you have taken ­possession of my body. This is slavery with a vengeance." Gandhi nicknamed himself "Upper House" and Kallenbach "Lower House," and he made Lower House promise not to "look lustfully upon any woman." The two then pledged "more love, and yet more love . . . such love as they hope the world has not yet seen."

May 27, 2012 at 3:46 pm |

Anti-stupid

If true then he was gay. Which is not a crime. Again with the research. Youve done your homework of hate.

May 27, 2012 at 4:01 pm |

Anti-stupid

OOOpps one more time... These are facts not hate. The moral of the comment is to be who you are and not pretend to be who you are not. Being peaceful does not give any one the right to rape under age girls. We call it hyporcisy in the civilized world.

May 27, 2012 at 4:09 pm |

Prettygal

You are a Pakistani, who is so ASHAMED of being Pakistani, you hide behind false names. As usual, you spout lies and nonsense.

The American Community Survey for 2010 (latest data available from the US Census Bureau) reveal that amongst South Asians living in the US, India-born immigrants are far ahead of Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, and Afghanis. Even when compared with immigrants from Egypt, a country known for supplying highly educated immigrants to the US, Indians report exceptionally higher indicators of economic progress

you got that right lil sister ... even my own appa and ammi jaan are usuall gashtis as Indian motels mostly owned by patels and sikhs ... my ammis rate is 5$ bj and appa give bjs in her black tent thats 10$ 🙂 we should be thanking Indian
hotel owners to let us run gahsti business ..

PAKISTAN ZINDABAD

May 27, 2012 at 12:05 pm |

Anti-stupid

Pakistan wants to turn motel 6 into a mosque.

May 27, 2012 at 3:42 pm |

Prettygal

India (land of the bankers to terrorists) is geographically, culturally and politically trapped, isolated and encircled. Now that it has been cut off from rest of Asia, the Indians (unfortunately) have nowhere to go but into the ocean. A look at a map conveys the inevitability of this scenario. For India to survive, it has no choice but to have excellent relations with Pakistan. This is a matter of time. The question is whether Pakistan has a big heart to accommodate the very survival of India/Hindu race. Perhaps not this time around.

I have read with interest some of the postings in this column as to the atrocities taking place in India against Christians. Let me tell you, to protect their interests, the Christian Church will unleash a Crusade against the hindus in India of such trmendous proportions that they have never read of before. So if this does not stop immediately we will start organizing such a movement.

Just the past few days in USA, one Indian student jailed and deported for backstabbing room mate, another Indian on trial for fraud/insider trading, one jailed for 25 years for securities fraud and on and on. And this is just a small sample. Need to send all these Indians back to India as they are polluting our society. I certainly don't want them in my backyard socializing with my kids.

THIS IS NOT THE LEGACY OUR FOREFATHERS LEFT BEHIND: Take away for Americans

Across all religions and cultures it is a basic tenet of human decency that human lives are valued and apologies are offered to the aggrieved by those responsible for the deaths. It nothing more, the words of apology are soothing to the families of those who died. In this case, Pakistan's contention is that Afghan forces and Indian intelligence deliberately provided misleading information to US/NATO forces and used them to kill 24 Pakistani paramilitary soldiers.

Due to the prevailing political climate in USA and the incumbent president in election mode, the apology appears to be forthcoming after preventive measures are put in place to minimize political outfall, polls are conducted to gage the effect and a face saving exit from Afghanistan has been figured out. It is a matter of time. Meantime, it will be a gesture of utmost magnanimity and generosity by Pakistan to continue to enable friends and allies to achieve common goals by offering their resources and stand with them shoulder to shoulder. This is what separates men from boys. We thank Pakistan for this offerance and look forward to taking our partnership to the next level.

. What really pleasantly surprised me was what I witnessed in the Middle East. A tolerant society that has come so far in a few years. Most importantly providing job and economic opportunities to all, Hindus/Indians, Jews, Christians, Muslims, Europeans, Americans, Africans, South Americans, Chinese, and Russians etc. Never have I witnessed such openness and equal opportunities unless you go back to the times of Muslim rule in India and Spain. My conclusion is that the Muslims get it. They are striving to once again take their leadership role in the world order and take this civilization to its next level of excellence. The climb to success and progress is not a linear curve but a stochastic one. Let us join in wishing our Muslim brethren well and much success in their endeavors. If we can't help them let's not pull the rug from under them.

"They are striving to once again take their leadership role in the world order and take this civilization to its next level of excellence."

May 27, 2012 at 11:46 am |

Feroz - Pakistan

It appears to me that Muslims are the fastest growing segment of world society today. As others are withering away the Muslims seem to be rising again with their contributions as was the case historically when they ruled India and Europe and left behind a legacy of science, art, architecture, culinary et al. One only needs to go to Spain and India to witness this. As immigrants, it is a good thing to be aware of your glorious heritage and be connected with it. The Italian immigrants do it as do the Germans, Polish, Jewish, Hispanic and many other cultures.

The founding members of the Abhinav Bharat, which was started in Pune in 2006, also believe that the RSS is not militant enough. Outlook magazine notes that its members were planning to kill top leaders of the RSS for their inability to implement Hindu extremist ideology. The Rashtriya Jagran Manch, also a breakaway group of the RSS founded in 2007, has close links with the Abhinav Bharat.

Based out of Goa, a western state with a substantial number of Christians, the Sanatan Sanstha provides the ideological base for Hindu militant groups. It has close links with the Sri Ram Sene and publishes a periodical, Sanatan Prabhat, which occasionally spews hate against Christians, Muslims and Jews.

Wow....surely is an educated fella. I wish we were so articulate and even keeled. Hare om hare om....ram ram ram....dum maro dum

May 27, 2012 at 11:40 am |

Susan Brown

The thesis (which I subscribe to) from @Ernie Haas's posting below appears to be that smaller indepenedent states carved out of dividing India will generate tremendous economic demand for western nations, be democratically more efficient and easy to manage, Christian friendly, religion tolerant, a great source of demand for military equipment from the west, culturally homogenous and will unleash opportunities for the people that will eradicate poverty. Moreover, the currently subjugated and enslaved minorities will have a place they can call home, have their skin in the game and work harder and with a passion to keep that neighborhood clean from extremists.
Of course, we can carve out a hindu nation along the a portion of the western coast where they can continue to practice their medieval culture and hopefully come into the folds of the modern world wihtin the next century.

DEMISE OF INDIA: The aftermath of Afghanistan invasion
The American invasion of Afghanistan brought to the forefront the irrelevance of India as a nation. With a population of over 1.2 billion people there was no value that this nation could bring to the table. Their soldiers (ragtag) 1.2million continue hiding in the trenches scared from Talibans. A few teenage Talibans invaded the country and held it hostage for days on end showing how useless India is. It was embarrasing for the world to observe this humiliation of a nation that was being touted as a regional power. The Talibans brought them down in a few days with some BB guns. It is all over for India. Its demise is in process and should be completed with Afghanistan withdrawal.

Perhaps...but my child learn from him. he is so articulate and to tell you the truth not far away from reality.

May 27, 2012 at 11:42 am |

Ernie Haas

Well said ....Part 2

"So the only way to peace in Afghanistan is dismantling the terrorist network and financing emanating from India, cutting it up into smaller nations along the lines of communist USSR and let smaller and more gentle and economically dynamic states emerge, stopping the genocide in Kashmir of muslim children/women, subjugation of minorities, prosecution of Christians and Muslims. Furthermore the ridiculously large and ineffective Indian army needs to be dismantled and put to use in assisting the poverty stricken masses and not sitting in trenches hiding from Talibans."

"The bottom line is that the only way to have peace in Afghanistan and lessen regional tension is split India into pieces. It has become too big too govern or create any value for western countries or even for its own population. We have invested a lot of resources in India over the past two decades and given a lot of aid to prop it up. There has been no investment on this return. Instead India has squandered all the resources in building nuclear weapons while poverty iremains rampant in the country. We need to revisit our relationship with India. American taxpayers will not tolerate this anymore. We need to take care of our own populace going forward. We cannot be exporting jobs to India or giving it financial or technical handouts."

The very idea that this administration did not get this man and his family out of Pakistan is sickening – who will ever help this country again when they know they will not be protected by the very country they were trying to help!

Pakistan is the epicenter of terror and terrorists in the world. Pakistan is home to a multitude of terror groups, including: Lakshar, Taliban, Haqqani, and Al Queda. We should stop wasting our tax dollars on a country that is a failed state and a state sponsor of terror.

What is more disturbing to us Christians is the extremism and terrorism against Christians in India by hindus. These hindus come on this website making comments against others but don't look in the mirror and protest the atrocities happening in India. Here is what another informed commentator in this forum posted yesterday. SHAME ON INDIANS.

"New, More Dangerous Hindu Extremist Groups Emerge in India

Christians concerned as rightwing factions splinter to form militant outfits.
PUNE, India, October 29 (CDN) — After more than a decade of severe persecution, India’s Christian minority is growing increasingly concerned over the mushrooming of newer and deadlier Hindu extremist groups.

Gone are the days when Christians had to watch out only for the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (World Hindu Council) and its youth wing, Bajrang Dal, which are closely linked with the most influential Hindu extremist umbrella organization, the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS). With voter support faltering for the RSS’s political wing, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), moderate and extremist sections within the Hindu nationalist movement are blaming each other, and militant splinter groups have emerged.

Claiming to be breakaway factions of the RSS, new groups with even more extreme ideology are surfacing. The Abhinav Bharat (Pride of India), the Rashtriya Jagran Manch (National Revival Forum), the Sri Ram Sene (Army of god Rama), the Hindu Dharam Sena (Army for Hindu Religion) and the Sanatan Sanstha (Eternal Organization) have launched numerous violent attacks on Christian and Muslim minorities."

In the rest of South Asia, especially in Pakistan and Bangladesh, education has never been a national priority. The results of such conflicting priorities are obvious. Graduates from Indian universities are outdoing others in competitivelabour markets at home and abroad.

If education is not made a national priority, the gap between Indians and other South Asians will grow at home and in diaspora.

The Multidimensional Poverty Index developed by Oxford University shows that India is far poorer than Africa not just in number but also in intensity.
The new poverty measure shows that 8 states out of the 29 states in India have more poor people than 26 poorest African countries combined. The Multidimensional poverty index views poverty from several different angles instead of just GDP figures. India is crippled by so many problems. For example, India's population growth rate is increasing by the day putting pressure on the limited resources and leaving many Indians in absolute poverty. India is very poor in terms of education, in terms of economic improvement, infrastructure, heath care, etc.
Moral values are down and cultural self respect index has hit rock bottom.

The American Community Survey for 2010 (latest data available from the US Census Bureau) reveal that amongst South Asians living in the US, India-born immigrants are far ahead of Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, and Afghanis. Even when compared with immigrants from Egypt, a country known for supplying highly educated immigrants to the US, Indians report exceptionally higher indicators of economic progress

India-born immigrants with professional degrees also reported significantly higher incomes than the rest. In comparison, immigrants from Afghanistan with one of the lowest incidence of professional degrees reportedly the lowest median household incomes.

In the rest of South Asia, especially in Pakistan and Bangladesh, education has never been a national priority. The results of such conflicting priorities are obvious. Graduates from Indian universities are outdoing others in competitivelabour markets at home and abroad.

If education is not made a national priority, the gap between Indians and other South Asians will grow at home and in diaspora.

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May 27, 2012 at 9:01 am |

Pakistani Hockey Team No Hope

ISLAMABAD: Former Olympian Shahnaz Sheikh on Wednesday said Pakistan finishing in the top four at the hockey event of the London Olympics will be a miracle..as hockey team have no money and food for players

May 27, 2012 at 9:11 am |

Prettygal

It is not a surprise. Pakistanis waste all their time obsessing about India. Needless to say, they achieve very little as individuals or as a nation. In England, Indians are doing very well, thank you. Pakistanis are living in squalor, breeding like crazy, taking advantage of welfare.( Indians have only one or two kids ).

May 27, 2012 at 9:52 am |

Mark C

Thanks for sharing the truth about Pakistan..

May 27, 2012 at 11:28 am |

NO INDIANS IN MY BACKYARD PLEASE !

If cleaning toilets is any indiactor, then surely the Indians lead the category

May 27, 2012 at 11:31 am |

Prettygal

It is true. Pakistanis waste all their time obsessing about India. If you go to England, you see that Indians are doing very well, thank you. Indians have only one or two kids, and educate them well. In contrast, Pakistanis will breed like crazy, taking advantage of welfare programs.

Just the past few days in USA, one Indian student jailed and deported for backstabbing room mate, another Indian on trial for fraud/insider trading, one jailed for 25 years for securities fraud and on and on. And this is just a small sample. Need to send all these Indians back to India as they are polluting our society.

LAHORE: While India is gearing up to show its presence in the 2012 Olympic Games, allocating an impressive Rs60.85 million to train 22 sportspersons of different individual disciplines, sports authorities in Pakistan are still to present a comprehensive plan to ensure the country’s maximum participation in the biggest sporting extravaganza

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