Happy 10th anniversary, Wii

Yesterday, Wii U celebrated its fourth anniversary. Wii has now reached a milestone of its own. The console shipped on November 19, 2006, making it ten years old.

I personally have many great memories of Wii. It’s the only console I’ve ever waited on a long for. I spent hours outside Best Buy on launch day – I can still remember how cold it was. Wii also has some of my favorite games of all time in Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, and Okami. Just can’t believe it’s been ten years already!

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Man, I feel sorry for you. There are so many much better systems to start with, Try going back to the older systems, they were awesome!

Supporter

If soupfist liked it, what’s there to be sorry about? I’m happy for you soupfist! And don’t worry about getting old. 🙂

Vigilante_blade

Oh, it is mostly that there are so many fantastic games he may not have played yet.

soupfist

I have played A LOT of other games from other Nintendo systems. From NES to Wii U, I have played a ton of fantastic games from every Nintendo system. It’s just that the Wii was my first and it had a good library of games. Hell I even play some Wii’s hidden gems like Xenoblade and Sin and Punishment: Star Successor.

Vigilante_blade

Oh, I made the wrong assumption. I hope you can forgive me.

Still, if you ever want to get some gaming recommendations, I would be happy to do so!

MagcargoMan

Of course you did, wouldn’t be you if you weren’t making some elitist assumption.

MagcargoMan

The problem is he likes something VB hates, and as we all know, going against the authority on all-things gaming is sin.

Vigilante_blade

Where did that come from?

MagcargoMan

Past experience.

Vigilante_blade

So, from out of your butt.

MagcargoMan

Right, telling someone they didn’t want the control scheme they said they wanted never happened.

Vigilante_blade

It never happened indeed. You twisted my words for your own benefits as an ad hominem. I’ve proven this multiple times. We are beating a dead horse.

MagcargoMan

Whatever. You’ll never admit it. Options are only necessary until you get what you want, after that, options no longer matter to you.

Vigilante_blade

I want the default traditional option. I think having options is always fine, but you won’t really find me asking for something I don’t want. That is not how life works, lol.

There is also nothing to admit to. I’ve been perfectly transparent.

MagcargoMan

“but you won’t really find me asking for something I don’t want.”

But I will find you asking for others to not ask for what you don’t want.

Vigilante_blade

Hardly. people each have their own personal tastes. I will fight for the things I believe in, but that does not make the other party “evil”.

I do believe that traditional controls are superior in pretty much every way, but it is not my place to decide what people like or not.

MagcargoMan

“but it is not my place to decide what people like or not.”

Yet you’ve done exactly that before.

Vigilante_blade

I’ve already demonstrated that this was not the case. Please do not intentionally alter facts to fit your narrative.

Fisaulerod

You really don’t realize how condescendent was your answer to soupfist?

Vigilante_blade

Was it? I don’t see it. When you look at Nintendo’s history,t here are so many incredible games in its past. It would be a shame not to experience them.

Fisaulerod

‘Man, I feel sorry for you’

And you know it’s not a matter of not playing past games. If he had started with the gamecube he would have missed a lot of good past games anyway, but you wouldn’t have said that in this case.

Vigilante_blade

He would have experienced some of the greater games, so I’d feel less sorry indeed. However, it’s not like I’ve been looking down on him, but rather, I look down on the Wii itself. I find it to be an extremely poor example of the greatness Nintendo can achieve.

I mean, you could always ask the guy directly. I’m sure he understood my intentions. I understand. I dislike the Wii, it triggers you. Can we move on?

MagcargoMan

That’s totally different, because the GameCube is the GREATEST CONSOLE EVAR!!

MagcargoMan

He lacks self-awareness and/or the ability to recognise anything obnoxious he says.

Midnight release lineups are part of what defined my teenage years. I still do them any chance I get for things I want as much as I wanted the Wii. I even did them for a few amiibo.

R.Z.

It’s really a Nintendo-related anniversary time of the year !

I didn’t have regular access to a T.V. when the Wii came out so I waited for some three years before I got one. But there also was a boom in online shopping at the same time, so I bought some games I really wanted and jumped on some interesting deals preemptively.
I think I had some 20 games for it before I even bought the console.

I had a great time with the Wii overall. Even the low-res output didn’t bother me that much, and Nintendo really put out a lot of amazing games at the time (MP3, SMG1&2, MK Wii, SSBB, DKCR, Xenoblade, Project Zero 2, Sin and Punishment successor of the Skies, Zelda Skyward Sword, Wii Sports resort, The Last Story, Pandora’s Tower … and I’m probably forgetting some major ones) but so did third party publishers (No More Heroes 1&2, Little King’s Story, RE4+, Zack&Wiki, Okami, Monster Hunter tri, Trauma Center …).
I also really liked the Wii-Nunchuck combo, in that I didn’t have my hands tied together as with a regular controller, the only thing I felt it lacked was a second stick.

I really hope the Switch will have a similarly rich library. Nintendo is supposedly already getting to work and I hope the third parties who are currently feeding the 3DS will show up too.

Happy birthday Wii !

JasonBall

Not only were some of the best games ever made for Wii, but THE best games ever were either on VC or rereleased on Wii.

Happy birthday, Wii.

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Hmmm… I say Wii U may be the best. GBA and DS games are pretty neat. The only reason I’m not 100% convinced Wii U is better is because they don’t have a bunch of games that were on Wii.

Felipe M.

VC is okay. Prefer physical format over it.

JasonBall

You’d want to go to the store and spend five bucks for a disc with Donkey Kong 3 on it? Digital is soooo more convenient here and takes a really small amount of space.

Felipe M.

Store? You must have never heard of Amazon, eBay or other marketplaces that people can, you know, buy online and receive it on their homes.

JasonBall

So you want to order a disc from Amazon for a five dollar game from the 80s, pay a few dollars in shipping, and wait for it to arrive?

Felipe M.

Yeah, and?

At least with a disc/cart I can actually play the game on ANY console of that platform whereas a digital copy is basically a rental copy. I.e., a rental copy because once the online support is terminated on the Wii/WiiU you won’t be able to download them again.

Digital format sure is great.

MagcargoMan

If it’s already downloaded you won’t lose it, so why care about needing to download it again?

JasonBall

To each his own.

ForeVision

He does have a point though. I have a great deal of games on something such as Steam, and albeit that they’re quite big (to say the least) and probably won’t shut down any time soon, if they do shut down, I doubt I’d see any of the games on there come back to me in any way shape or form, whereas if I’d have them on disk, I’d be able to simply pull the disk out and there we go.

JasonBall

In regards to Nintendo eShop, as long as my 3DS stays not broken, I’m good. There’s an equal chance of me snapping my microSD card as there is dropping a physical came cartridge in my chicken soup, so digital is no riskier for me. In fact, with the card under the back panel, it’s even safer than physical because cartridges, when being swapped out, can easily be dropped or something, whereas the microSD never leaves the system. Steam may be different in how you guys set things up and how the service works, but unless Nintendo presses a button that says “delete everyone’s games,” we’re good.

ForeVision

In regards to the dropping cartridges part, I always place mine back into their box when I do not use them, and have the box be in a set place. I have only 1 game via the E-shop, so I’m not 100% sure how it works.

Perhaps someone can tell me if Nintendo uses DRM for Eshop titles, but Rune Factory 4, doesn’t for me so I’m going to assume it doesn’t. In that case, you’ll have your games as long as you have your MicroSD, you’re right about that.

What I meant with Steam, is that DRM (Digital Rights Management) is an overlay system from which the game must be launched (Steam, Uplay, Ubisoft etc, though Steam does allow you to play your games offline.) hence why if said DRM system is offline itself, you cannot play your games, that is if the DRM has a always online requirement.

JasonBall

Oh wow that sucks. If they wanted, they could block you from accessing your games.

ForeVision

Yup. If their system is ever to disappear for some reason, you’d lose your games entirely. And Steam let’s you play offline, but there are plenty of other DRMs that don’t, such as Uplay forcing you to play Heroes of Might and Magic, even just single player, with it being on.

If you want a good example, google Games for Windows Live. That was a horrible system that, (thankfully) is now gone, but has tormented people for many years.

ForeVision

The Wii was graced with a more expansive library of games, and thankfully didn’t buckle under all of it’s disgraceful shovelware. Although it left me starving for more I suppose “mature” games to play, it did cause me to discover Monster Hunter for myself, and for that it has gained itself a place in my memory.

It has done well in the time of its was release, but I am nevertheless happy that Nintendo has recognized that it’s time has passed, and that doing away with the Wii brand isn’t because the Wii was crap, but because one has to change with the times, and that the Wii’s time, is over.

10 years already… time certainly flies, regardless happy anniversary to the Wii.

Vigilante_blade

Wii, it’s been ten years, and we are still feeling the impacts of your genesis. You were a terrible console with only a few saving graces like Xenoblade, or being easily hackable. You halted true innovation in gaming by focusing on gimmicks as opposed to focusing on high quality gameplay. Instead of advancing gaming forward, you held it back, focusing on non-gamers as opposed to those that made it possible for you to exist in the first place.

The era of decline is hopefully over, and I hope that we can look to a brighter future with the Switch moving away from the Wii brand. “As the darkness rises, a hero of light emerges”. I hope this quote from the Twilight Princess relates to the future of Nintendo.

To you, Wii, I say good riddance, and let us never speak of you again.

Velen (Not WoW)

-and thus his transparent hate of anything that isn’t what he likes continues to haunt everyone here to this day like a ever-present virus.

R.Z.

True innovation such as ?

Vigilante_blade

Games like Valkyria Chronicles that reinvented the tactical RPG genre (and that Nintendo ripped off with Codename STEAM), new ways to handle challenges in a rewarding way like in Dark Souls, new Cell shading animation techniques of Guilty Gear Xrd. These are true innovations. Not gimmicks, but actual things that advance the medium.

Supporter

Hmm… this is the most negative thing I’ve seen you say. I thought you were the optimistic type. That’s what I liked about you. That being said, I haven’t seen your thoughts of Smash Wii U/3DS that a few people have mentioned. I guess I read you wrong.

Vigilante_blade

Well, I don’t really think it’s good to categorize people as either optimistic or negative. I like certain things and dislike certain things. If you look at most Nintendo past consoles and look at the very fondly. For example, the first time that I played Super Smash Bros. Melee, I was in a very dark place, and its sheer quality really helped me get past that life’s hurdle. I made friends through it and became an all around stronger person thanks to it. I am very thankful for those games that made me giddy with with excitement.

The Wii was a console that I really tried to liked. I bought it at launch, and as I first started playing Wii Sports, I kinda was like “maybe I just don’t get it yet?”. I kept playing the Wii, feeling underwhelmed and bored for a good while, and it never clicked. If anything, I eventually tried to get around the wiimote’s issues by using the classic controller on any game I could, but Nintendo had a nasty habit of forcing the Wiimote into many games that otherwise would have been interesting to me. I love games, but I don’t enjoy motion controls. At first, I thought that it was just a minor annoyance, then as the issue kept popping up, it eventually turned into exasperation, then into hatred. I wanted an option to play games in the way I wished, but Nintendo did not permit me to do so. It would have been an easy fix, and hacking the system did allow me to play some of these games with a classic controller. The fact that I had to hack games to enjoy them made no sense to me. I’d say tha tin general, I’ve been extremely positive on Nintendo. I was even a fanatic at one point. I still very much love Nintendo IPs, but gimmicks have been this one thing that ruined my experience due to not being optional. This is why I don’t rag on 3D too much. I can turn it off. I like some things and dislike some things.

Plus, I see “negativity” as a positive thing at times. Negativity has helped this industry countless times. My suspicious stance on No Man’s Sky has helped my friends hold off on buying it, and the game is now known to be a terrible one. People’s backlash on the XBox one’s always on DRM has prevented people from getting swindled. People’s backlash against Diablo’s III poor loot drop and auction house has actually helped the game improve by a lot. People complaining about the Kinect being bundled with the XBox One made Microsoft unbundle it and reduce the price of their system, at the benefit of everyone.

Adversely, being too positive can be very negative. We as consumers should not be paying for online play on console. Yet, the PS4 and Microsoft systems force you to pay an extra fee to play online whereas PC doesn’t force you to do this. These two companies managed to make this an accepted thing because people didn’t speak up and vote with their wallets against it. Pokémon Sun and Moon got rid of HMs finally after 20+ years, and that is because they heard the complaints. I find beauty in criticism. I think we need it.

As for Smash Brawl and 4, I really just don’t enjoy it. I like the general speed of Melee and its beautiful aggressive gameplay. Its advanced techniques are very fun to use, and its faster falling speed and reduced landing lag makes aerial combat more interesting to me. I tried the later two games, and honestly could not get into them. It’s kinda like if you get used to very high grade tea. The cheap little store packets don’t satisfy you anymore. I cannot have fun in a much slower-paced game, not do I enjoy heavily defensive gameplay.

ForeVision

I see your points, but if you look past them, if you look past the Wiimote (which I actually used more with Monster Hunter than the regular controller at one point, though I’ll admit I don’t play my Wii anymore because of those being necessary and their constant need for batteries) and look past the shovelware, then the Wii had a nice line up of games. Yes it was marketed towards a market that’s now saturated, but that didn’t prevent it from having some good games.

I’ve played a game on Wii, that I found to be genuinely enjoyable, it was kinda like Pokemon, and even though it made use of the Wii-mote, i doubt it can’t easily be remapped to buttons, and yet I’ve never seen it’s continuation. It’s called Spectrobes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrobes:_Origins. And I’d personally would’ve loved to have seen a new one for Wii-U.

I’ve tried the Wii sports, Wii Sports Resort and games a like myself, and albeit having found some enjoyment out of it at the start, I ended up feeling that these games aren’t for me, and that’s fine, as long as the system receives games like Monster Hunter, like Super Smash then there’s some for everyone, and I can see the strength in that.

When we look past the Wii, at what’s coming, then if the Switch is indeed this system where everyone can find that game they enjoy, I can only applaud such endeavors.

Vigilante_blade

Oh, I don’t deny it has a few good games. Xenoblade was a amazing, and Punchout Wii was cool, albeit it would have benefited from pro support. The Last Story is pretty decent as well. Dokapon Kingdom is a fantastic party game, surpassing Mario Party games of that era. I recognize the quality of Super Mario Galaxy in general, but the controller pushed me back from fully enjoying it. When I replayed it on an emulator and switched motions over to a button, I had a lot more fun with it. Of course, Monster Hunter games are always nice to have, and I hope Switch finally gets us to play one on a TV again. DKC returns and Kirby became fun once I hacked the system and used Classic controller codes.

Nevertheless, I have many frustrations tied to the Wii brand and cannot wait to move on from it. Nintendo’s refusal to give people default traditional options was by far their biggest failing as a company.

MagcargoMan

“I recognize the quality of Super Mario Galaxy in general”

Last anniversary you didn’t even list it on the “good” Wii games list.

Vigilante_blade

Oh, because of the Wiimote. Take that away, and I’d certainly replay it.

Supporter

Don’t get me wrong, criticizing issues is totally recommended. In no way do I want to be too positive and ignore issues. At the same time, positivity goes a long way and often brings up people’s spirits over negativity which can be very hurtful.

I understand your disinterest in the newer Smash Bros games, but I’m not sure if future entries will ever be the same as Melee in terms of speed and gameplay style. They could be, but we don’t know. As long as you enjoy the new versions of Smash for what they are or enjoy going back to Melee, there’s no major issue.

Also, I agree about questioning No Man’s Sky before it came out or not likely the Wii’s motion controls all the time. I don’t want to assume people are either positive or negative. I just prefer when people off-set the often negative comments of the Internet with some optimism. Anyway, thanks for the explanation.

Vigilante_blade

Ah no problem, I’m glad we got things a bit straightened up!

MagcargoMan

“I thought you were the optimistic type.”

What alternate bizarro universe have you been living in?

Supporter

Aww… He’s nice though. I like him, plus I haven’t been commenting here for a while. Anyway, he and I may disagree on some things but he’s still a cool dude from what I can tell. As long as the negativity isn’t too frequent or overbearing.

Vigilante_blade

Thank you, I appreciate that.

MagcargoMan

“He’s nice though.”
He tells people they’re wrong for liking what he doesn’t. Constantly. To the point where’d he’d tell someone they wouldn’t miss a feature they outright said they wanted.

“As long as the negativity isn’t too frequent or overbearing.”

Which is exactly what I was getting at in my last comment.

Vigilante_blade

We had this discussion, probably about 50 times by now. I’ve never made such statements. You have decided to infer intent that wasn’t there due to your negative bias towards my opinions. This is an attribution bias.

I would be kind and just say that your negative bias made you infer wrongly, but your insistence on continuing to infer ill-intent on my part after I’ve made my intentions very clea rand proven you wrong on multiple occasions, and your insistence on not moving on from this matter after it has been settled demonstrates that you are doing this out of spite and dishonesty. Disliking someone is no excuse for constant badgering of this individual.

I have several divisive opinions for sure, and I wear them on my sleeve. I am willing to take abuse for my beliefs. However, you would be better off arguing against my arguments as opposed to attacking me on a personal level.

MagcargoMan

Kinda rich to call others liars when you constantly deny things you’ve done that anyone can see. Glass houses and all that.

No, there is no dishonestly. I won’t move on from it because it is objective proof of your behaviour and denial of said behaviour, as was the Star Fox Guard non-argument. I would have dropped it ages ago had you just admitted it instead of backtracking hard.

Vigilante_blade

I do deny falsehoods made at my expense, yes. I have enough lunatics trying to find out my personal information (they think I am dumb enough to give it to them) and stalking my Disqus activity to deal with.

I will never admit to untrue statements. Whenever I will make an inaccurate claim, I will correct myself, as I have in the past.

Supporter

Really? Like I said, I haven’t been commenting here for too long. Nobody is wrong for liking what they like.

All I can say is that Vigilante_blade is his own person. If he says things like that, I will most certainly disagree. I know he’s divisive but I hope he doesn’t make comments that are obviously rude or hurtful. I’d hope he’s better than that.

MagcargoMan

Predictable. Looking forward to seeing the same old rant the next year.

Felipe M.

The Wii as a gaming console it’s very mediocre with a selective amount of games worth owning but overall it’s not very good at all. It’s in fact my least favourite Nintendo console (the Wii U being my 2nd least favourite).

Vigilante_blade

The same is true for me.

Jay Bern

Needless to say, I feel old now. Nevertheless, I had a lot of fun with the Wii even if it was lacking in some departments. I still have fond memories of just about every game I played on it. Hell, there’s still some games on it I’ve been meaning to check out.

Dennis Scipio

Yes happy 10th anniversary to the Wii

Abra

yaa to the system that stagnated nintendo…

MagcargoMan

Do you know what stagnated even means?

Abra

ya I do know what it means you dumb looking pokemon…

MagcargoMan

Magcargo looks way cooler than Abra.

Somebody

Favorite console of all time!

Felipe M.

If people on the Play Store / Apple Store say random games are “Best game ever.” then I suppose someone saying the Wii is their all-time favourite console isn’t too far-fetched.

MagcargoMan

“Stop liking things that I don’t like.”

Somebody

you may not like the Wii, but you can’t deny it had a pretty awesome library of games also Mario Galaxy is literally the highest rated game of last gen, so yeah saying the Wii is my fav console is not too far-fetched 🙂

Annie

Happy 10th anniversary Wii! I still remember how I almost (literally) died when I went to buy mine :’) good times <3 had tons of fun playing Wii sports, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, and Just Dance with my family and friends, doing quests with friends in MH3 or playing Guitar Hero at my house, also single player games like Mario Galaxy, Xenoblade, Zelda and the Metroid Prime trilogy, the Wii has a great library of games! truly one of the best consoles of all time

MagcargoMan

Never realised how close the launch dates of the Wii and Wii U. Already made a big post about the Wii on last year’s anniversary article, so I’ll just leave this one short and sweet and just say “Happy Birthday Wii”.