unlikely:Also... when the current Republican leadership start showing some outrage for well-documented outright lies that were told intentionally and led directly to the deaths of 4500 Americans and god knows how many others, THEN they'll have a little credibility; until then they really ought to STFU and reflect on where they went so far off the rails.

/hint: Grover Norquist and Pat Robertson

To use a party analogy:

S. Rice lied about the the desert she brought being homemade (because she was told it was)

Individuals and groups affiliated with al Qaeda publicly took credit for the attack in the immediate aftermath. Any eleven year old with internet access could find out this super-private state secret; so spare us the spook spin on this clusterfark.

Even if we were to accept your James Bond story, tell us whose bright idea it was to use some poor schmuck and his youtube video as the scapegoat for your tard-handed opus. I'm sure he takes pride in being an unwilling patriot and martyr for your deep-cover operatives who cleverly deduced what the rest of the world already knew.

Protip: Not everybody who claims responsibility for terrorist attacks are actually behind those terrorist attacks.

What part of this don't the repubs understand? Don't they realize that by pursuing this faux scandal they are aiding and abetting the enemy? Just how much treasonous behavior are we obliged to accept from the repubs before they can be taken to task? At this point, "party before country" is putting it mildly.

colon_pow:Fox News was told by one source that Clapper, in a classified session on Thursday, was "unequivocal, and without hesitation insisted the changes were made outside the Intelligence community. He didn't know who but was emphatic he would find out."

Bloody William:Come on. Walk me through it. This isn't obvious to my tiny liberal mind, so you need to explain it to me slowly.

It's very simple.

Obama is black.And a Democrat.He is willing to let Bush's billionaire tax cuts expire.He is also, horror of horrors, a bit of an environmentalist.And rather popular with the general public.And he did the unthinkable: got Bin Laden.He is a living, breathing affront to the right wing information bubble, and the derp-wingers who thrive there.His very existence puts the lie to everything they stand for.So, Republicans wasted a lot of time, energy and money trying to stop him from being re-elected.They spent the weeks before the election declaring themselves the winners, in spite of all evidence to the contrary..Their loss was epic.Their humiliation was televised.And now their butthurt can be seen from orbit.

mark12A:Wow. You farktards will believe *anything* the intelligence folks say if it's good for your Obamessiah. If it isn't, then they're evil.

It's farking obvious what happened. They didn't need "spies" to tell them it was a coordinated assault. They farking could see it on the drone feed. There are no spies to protect.

What you have here is the "modified limited hangout". They are making up lies to cover for their initial lie that it was a video that triggered the assault. IT WAS NOT. It was an Al Quada attack, it was obvious to everyone involved, but it was embarrassing to the Obamessiah to have a terrorist attack just before the election. And it reveals how they left our embassey guys out hanging in the breeze. For political expediency.

You'll believe anything, including conspiracy theories, so long as it supports your fantasy that Obama is incompetent.

Also... when the current Republican leadership start showing some outrage for well-documented outright lies that were told intentionally and led directly to the deaths of 4500 Americans and god knows how many others, THEN they'll have a little credibility; until then they really ought to STFU and reflect on where they went so far off the rails.

halfof33:"This is a response to a hateful and offensive video that was widely disseminated throughout the Arab and Muslim world," Rice said on NBC's "Meet the Press." "Obviously our view is that there is absolutely no excuse for violence and what has happened is condemnable. But this is a spontaneous reaction to a video and it's not dissimilar but perhaps on a slightly larger scale than what we have seen in the past with the [Salman Rushdie's novel] 'Satanic Verses', with the [2006 Danish newspaper] cartoon of the Prophet Muhammad."

GREGORY: The images as you well know are jarring to Americans watching all of this play out this week, and we'll share the map of all of this turmoil with our viewers to show the scale of it across not just the Arab world, but the entire Islamic world and flashpoints as well. In Egypt, of course, the protests outside the U.S. embassy there that Egyptian officials were slow to put down. This weekend in Pakistan, protests as well there. More anti-American rage. Also protests against the drone strikes. In Yemen, you also had arrests and some deaths outside of our U.S. embassy there. How much longer can Americans expect to see these troubling images and these protests go forward?

MS. RICE: Well, David, we can't predict with any certainty. But let's remember what has transpired over the last several days. This is a response to a hateful and offensive video that was widely disseminated throughout the Arab and Muslim world. Obviously, our view is that there is absolutely no excuse for violence and that-- what has happened is condemnable, but this is a-- a spontaneous reaction to a video, and it's not dissimilar but, perhaps, on a slightly larger scale than what we have seen in the past with The Satanic Verses with the cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad.

when she described the attack as spontaneous violence that grew out of protests of an anti-Islam film.

NO

SHE

DIDN'T

No, she didn't. Not at all. Not even in the slightest. If that's what you got from her statement, then your comprehension skills absolutely suck, and you need to have some serious talks not just with your schoolteachers, but your farking parents as well.

She said that there was a "spontaneous protest" that was "hijacked" by "extremists" who turned it into an "attack". These terrorists saw an opportunity and took advantage of it. By the end, it WASN'T a "protest" any more, but a terrorist attack. Unfortunately for you morons, it DID start out as a protest, and she said this from the beginning. SHe never said that the "protest" just turned into an attack, she pointed to the extremist element and specifically said that they hijacked it.

God, I didn't think that I could have any less respect for the entire political Right after their last 4 years, but now not only are they sleazy assholes, they are apparently too stupid to leave out in the rain unattended, you never know if they suddenly look up, forget to look back down, and drown in the street.

Individuals and groups affiliated with al Qaeda publicly took credit for the attack in the immediate aftermath. Any eleven year old with internet access could find out this super-private state secret; so spare us the spook spin on this clusterfark.

Even if we were to accept your James Bond story, tell us whose bright idea it was to use some poor schmuck and his youtube video as the scapegoat for your tard-handed opus. I'm sure he takes pride in being an unwilling patriot and martyr for your deep-cover operatives who cleverly deduced what the rest of the world already knew.

Fun fact: A Palestinian liberation group was the first group to take responsibility for 9/11/01. Taking credit for actions doesn't mean shiat until vetted by intelligence there, Chief Chucklef*ck.

And the terrorists who were captured by Libya in the aftermath did confess to using the other existing protests in San'aa and Cairo over the video as a cover for their attack.

What you have here is the "modified limited hangout". They are making up lies to cover for their initial lie that it was a video that triggered the assault. IT WAS NOT. It was an Al Quada attack, it was obvious to everyone involved, but it was embarrassing to the Obamessiah to have a terrorist attack just before the election. And it reveals how they left our embassey guys out hanging in the breeze. For political expediency.

Yeah, because having a consulate overrun and an ambassador murdered by a disorganized mob of random twats is much less embarrassing.

colon_pow:Fox News was told by one source that Clapper, in a classified session on Thursday, was "unequivocal, and without hesitation insisted the changes were made outside the Intelligence community. He didn't know who but was emphatic he would find out."

halfof33:unlikely: Also... when the current Republican leadership start showing some outrage for well-documented outright lies that were told intentionally and led directly to the deaths of 4500 Americans and god knows how many others, THEN they'll have a little credibility; until then they really ought to STFU and reflect on where they went so far off the rails.

/hint: Grover Norquist and Pat Robertson

YEAH! And so stop asking inconvienient questions about why the Obama Administration sent its mouth piece to five morning news shows wioth a bald faced lie of a story, because IRAQ, or something.

born_yesterday:colon_pow: Fox News was told by one source that Clapper, in a classified session on Thursday, was "unequivocal, and without hesitation insisted the changes were made outside the Intelligence community. He didn't know who but was emphatic he would find out."

who told clapper to lie?

More importantly, who leaked the proceedings of a classified meeting?

And since when does one unnamed source past scrutiny to the point that you can publish it as fact? Usually if you have one anonymous source you don't publish it, you use it as an angle to find corroborating evidence.

Hey, all you reich-wing pieces of sh*t infesting this thread: prove that you're not just "performance-artist" trolls dragging down what used to be one of the top 100 websites in the world. If you really have something substantive, get the wastes of skin who represent you in Congress to start impeachment proceedings. It's so simple, even you fundamentally damaged individuals can understand that.

halfof33:theknuckler_33: What is trolling is claiming the parenthetical statement is a fact. She did her job and gave the statements she was authorized to make. Period.

And I'm pretty sure I pointed out that she was just the administrations mouthpiece, right? And that the adminstration had more than enough information before she was sent on her little errands to stop her from repeating it.

You think this is about RICE????? Mind Boggles.

/Ignore... (just kidding, I'm not a complete pussy)

You aren't making a very cogent argument about what this is 'about'. Somehow an attack on our consulate killing 4 Americans is much more damaging for Obama politically if it resulted from an organized al-queada terrorist attack than if it were the result of a spontaneous riot, therefore this is why the Obama admin pushed Rice into making those statements? That's a highly strained premise is the reason why people are mocking you. Where do you get this notion that the American people went "oh, 4 americans killed by angry mob... ok. Sad, but whaddya gonna do" but would have gone "4 americans killed by organized al-queda terrorist attack! DAMN YOU FARTBONGO!!!!".

Dude, that doesn't make a farking lick of sense. Most people are upset about 4 americans dead. Not the method by which that happened. So, you invented this premise that Obama's motive for *supposedly* changing the Rice talking points (which is disputed anyway) was to limit the political damage from a terrorist attack rather than a mob attack when there is literally nothing to indicate that a mob attack would have been any less damaging than the terrorist attack. You took what happened and invented a premise that allowed you to give an ulterior motive to something you think Obama did. That's pretty outrageously tenuous.

Polly Ester:Even if we were to accept your James Bond story, tell us whose bright idea it was to use some poor schmuck and his youtube video as the scapegoat for your tard-handed opus. I'm sure he takes pride in being an unwilling patriot and martyr for your deep-cover operatives who cleverly deduced what the rest of the world already knew.

I do enjoy this part of the conspiracy theory.

You see, the Obama administration (maybe Obama himself?) scoured youtube for anti-Islamic media and settled on this film as the cover for their nefarious plot.

Individuals and groups affiliated with al Qaeda publicly took credit for the attack in the immediate aftermath. Any eleven year old with internet access could find out this super-private state secret; so spare us the spook spin on this clusterfark.

Even if we were to accept your James Bond story, tell us whose bright idea it was to use some poor schmuck and his youtube video as the scapegoat for your tard-handed opus. I'm sure he takes pride in being an unwilling patriot and martyr for your deep-cover operatives who cleverly deduced what the rest of the world already knew.

So we should take their word for it and stop investigating how it was planned and what groups they were working with within the country. Gotcha. Polly Ester believes al Qaeda are infallible bearers of truth

halfof33:theknuckler_33: What is trolling is claiming the parenthetical statement is a fact. She did her job and gave the statements she was authorized to make. Period.

And I'm pretty sure I pointed out that she was just the administrations mouthpiece, right? And that the adminstration had more than enough information before she was sent on her little errands to stop her from repeating it.

You think this is about RICE????? Mind Boggles.

/Ignore... (just kidding, I'm not a complete pussy)

She had the same information congress had, which makes their outrage hilarious. Maybe they should skip more briefings so they can hold more angry press conferences about how there aren't enough briefings.

Individuals and groups affiliated with al Qaeda publicly took credit for the attack in the immediate aftermath. Any eleven year old with internet access could find out this super-private state secret; so spare us the spook spin on this clusterfark.

Even if we were to accept your James Bond story, tell us whose bright idea it was to use some poor schmuck and his youtube video as the scapegoat for your tard-handed opus. I'm sure he takes pride in being an unwilling patriot and martyr for your deep-cover operatives who cleverly deduced what the rest of the world already knew.

halfof33:Mrtraveler01: So explain to us why we should be outraged and why Obama should be impeached over it.

/I'm waiting...

This is the part of the thread where you post the proof where I said he ought to be impeached over it.

"I'm Waiting."

/I get it, people don't care that administration let a grossly inaccurate story get published, which served to further inflame the situation. Stop asking questions people, the Obama will make it all better.//farking sheep

It further inflamed the situation in what way? What further incidents can be directly linked to Rice's statement?

halfof33:/I get it, people don't care that administration let a grossly inaccurate story get published, which served to further inflame the situation. Stop asking questions people, the Obama will make it all better.

Bloody William:Could you please explain why this is a scandal? I mean it, talk to me as if I were a child (because I'm a liberal and dumb so haha) and walk me through the logic that makes the Benghazi attacks and the administration's initial confusion as to the details during the attacks and eventual assertion of an independent terrorist attack something over which I should be outraged.

Please, show me what makes this so bad and what they did so wrong.

Come on. Walk me through it. This isn't obvious to my tiny liberal mind, so you need to explain it to me slowly.

halfof33:Remember folks, posting actual links and facts (like the fact that Rice our intelligence community, in order to protect assests flasely claimed that the attacks were the result of an anti-Islamic video which served to inflame anti-American sentiment in Muslim countries) is trolling

halfof33:Remember folks, posting actual links and facts (like the fact that Rice flasely claimed that the attacks were the result of an anti-Islamic video which served to inflame anti-American sentiment in Muslim countries) is trolling.

What is trolling is claiming the parenthetical statement is a fact. She did her job and gave the statements she was authorized to make. Period.

halfof33:Remember folks, posting actual links and facts (like the fact that Rice flasely claimed that the attacks were the result of an anti-Islamic video which served to inflame anti-American sentiment in Muslim countries) is trolling.

So explain to us why we should be outraged and why Obama should be impeached over it.

halfof33:amiable: This thread is worth it only for the amusement I am getting laughing at your posts. Please proceed.

You are laughing at a link to a summary of protests at US Embassies?

OH, OK then. Super post!

/I get that there are Obama fanboys here, but this thread is filled with liberal morans.

Could you please explain why this is a scandal? I mean it, talk to me as if I were a child (because I'm a liberal and dumb so haha) and walk me through the logic that makes the Benghazi attacks and the administration's initial confusion as to the details during the attacks and eventual assertion of an independent terrorist attack something over which I should be outraged.

unlikely:mrshowrules: unlikely: Also... when the current Republican leadership start showing some outrage for well-documented outright lies that were told intentionally and led directly to the deaths of 4500 Americans and god knows how many others, THEN they'll have a little credibility; until then they really ought to STFU and reflect on where they went so far off the rails.

/hint: Grover Norquist and Pat Robertson

To use a party analogy:

S. Rice lied about the the desert she brought being homemade (because she was told it was)

C. Rice lied about whether not the punch was poisoned

Nice. Brilliant. Smart AND funny.

I will likely quote that to my derpiest friends on facebook...

spell dessert correctly when you do. Because I was wondering where the sand came into play.

Remember kids: "Dessert has two S-es because you always want seconds."

TFerWannaBe:halfof33: unlikely: Also... when the current Republican leadership start showing some outrage for well-documented outright lies that were told intentionally and led directly to the deaths of 4500 Americans and god knows how many others, THEN they'll have a little credibility; until then they really ought to STFU and reflect on where they went so far off the rails.

/hint: Grover Norquist and Pat Robertson

YEAH! And so stop asking inconvienient questions about why the Obama Administration sent its mouth piece to five morning news shows wioth a bald faced lie of a story, because IRAQ, or something.

Until then? STFU, you hear?

rolls eyes.

This is as much of a scandal as Obama's birth certificate.

You know what was a bigger scandal, when Obama didn't wear a tie in the Oval Office because at least this was something that actually happened.

unlikely:mrshowrules: unlikely: Also... when the current Republican leadership start showing some outrage for well-documented outright lies that were told intentionally and led directly to the deaths of 4500 Americans and god knows how many others, THEN they'll have a little credibility; until then they really ought to STFU and reflect on where they went so far off the rails.

/hint: Grover Norquist and Pat Robertson

To use a party analogy:

S. Rice lied about the the desert she brought being homemade (because she was told it was)

C. Rice lied about whether not the punch was poisoned

Nice. Brilliant. Smart AND funny.

I will likely quote that to my derpiest friends on facebook...

It might need some work. After all, Condi was actually in charge of the punch. Susan didn't even have to bring dessert.

mrshowrules:unlikely: Also... when the current Republican leadership start showing some outrage for well-documented outright lies that were told intentionally and led directly to the deaths of 4500 Americans and god knows how many others, THEN they'll have a little credibility; until then they really ought to STFU and reflect on where they went so far off the rails.

/hint: Grover Norquist and Pat Robertson

To use a party analogy:

S. Rice lied about the the desert she brought being homemade (because she was told it was)

And still, my mind boggles at trying to imagine the head-exploding outrage that would have happened had he actually discussed real operational intelligence in a press conference while keeping it secret was still valuable.