WOW! So, all I need to do to have back surgery is enter a few bathrooms of the opposite gender (in a relatively safe area like LA or DC or NYC) and then sue the crap out of the owners when I get kicked out?!

(because in SANE areas of the USofA, a person would have their ass handed to them for walking into a women's bathroom while their wife or daughter was using it)

They also have signs on doors letting you know you are not allowed. Man has no place in a women's restroom. Don't care if he is cross dressing or what. Just because he throws a dress and wig on does not make him a woman. Neither does his "belief" that he is a woman. Biology dictates from birth what gender you are. You don't get to choose.

Quoting: NoMoreNiceGuy87

Maybe if the sign has a note saying that it refers to SEX not GENDER?

Sex is the genitals you were born with, and the chromosomes you'll always have. MAYBE if you've had the horrible operation and have fake other genitals now, we can say you've changed sex.

Gender is whatever you decide it is, someone decided there are 73 of them but you can always dream up more. But why can't we just say the bathrooms are for the male sex and female sex?

You never follow bad orders. You never pay unjust court things. You never allow them to railroad truth and the real laws and constitution and protection of women and children.

I would not pay. I would ensure anyone doing that again would be tossed.

I would inform everyone that they are breaking the law, that judges are not there to take away our rights or have power over us, but there to protect us from rape, murder, theft and all those who do abuse power.

Otherwise their criminals and you don't listen to criminals.

I would not comply with evil and in fact, anyone coming to bad decisions must have hidden mosnters hiding in their closets and diddled kids under their robes basically thats how most of us women feel.

So strange odd evil behavior from judges and police warrant getting donations, passing the hat and sicking at least 100 really good PI's on them to expose and destroy them.

And then when their criminal natures are disclosed, financially sue the hell out of them and destroy them in civil suits.

Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn

This is indeed what we all should fight for! We all need to stand up and get rid of the corrupt people in charge. Anyone in charge enforcing sick rules are not human and should be treated as such. I can't believe this day and age where good peoples rights are overlooked, particularly in first world countries. If there is ever a time for Jesus to come back and kick some ass!

I reserve the right to not have to view a mentally ill sexual predator's penis while using the fucking bathroom.

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Quoting: DrStrangerLove69

If it's a man, use spray mace and quietly leave--they are a sexual predator if in the women's room.

If i see a man walk into the bathroom behind my wife, he won't be walking out.

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Hmmmmm ..... guess I would just have to start screaming and become a "mee-too!" <---- They started this shit, we may as well use it against them.

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Hey.. when I was MUCH younger.. I accidentally followed my husband in the men's room on the beach..... and I think I have accidently gone in some others in my life.. Urinals on the wall sort of give that away.

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They also have signs on doors letting you know you are not allowed. Man has no place in a women's restroom. Don't care if he is cross dressing or what. Just because he throws a dress and wig on does not make him a woman. Neither does his "belief" that he is a woman. Biology dictates from birth what gender you are. You don't get to choose.

Quoting: NoMoreNiceGuy87

Maybe if the sign has a note saying that it refers to SEX not GENDER?

Sex is the genitals you were born with, and the chromosomes you'll always have. MAYBE if you've had the horrible operation and have fake other genitals now, we can say you've changed sex.

Gender is whatever you decide it is, someone decided there are 73 of them but you can always dream up more. But why can't we just say the bathrooms are for the male sex and female sex?

Quoting: oniongrass

Nice, XY, XX and ? labeled restrooms or a port-a-poty in the parking lots for the confused?

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Hey.. when I was MUCH younger.. I accidentally followed my husband in the men's room on the beach..... and I think I have accidently gone in some others in my life.. Urinals on the wall sort of give that away.

Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL

LOL! I also accidentally used the mens restroom once in a store. I don't know how it happened. I am an extremely aware person and not spacey at all. I think I was tired. And I didn't even notice the urinals when I walked in. I had to pee bad and just rushed towards the stalls. When I left, I saw I guy standing there and for a second, I thought HE was in the LADIES room. Then I noticed he was standing at a urinal. I was mortified! I quickly rushed in the ladies room to wash my hands. My husband was checking out when I went to use the restroom and said he will go to the car after. I rushed to the car and said let's go, hurry up. I told him what happened and of course, he made fun of me and continued to all week and told some family and friends about it. LOL! That guy in the mens room either thought I was a woman wanting to be a man, or a perv.

I think the other reason women want a bathroom to themselves is periods, even if the bathroom has individual stalls, she may need to get to a sink in the communal area with blood on her hands, to wash a menstrual cup, to wash her pants, to check her butt in the mirror, to get a pad from the machine.Or just asking another woman for a tampon.

If these laws are not repealed but are to be the norm, then there is no longer a point to male/female bathrooms as no man can ever again be questioned as to why he would be in the ladies even if his intentions were nefarious since the standard appears to be that one is whatever they say they are. Any would-be attacker or predator upon women can claim he is there because he is female and that's the end of the conversation, whether they believe it or not.

It can lead to people only feeling safe if they go at home and never using public restrooms, since to many they are no longer fit for purpose given other privacy and safety issues.

What actually needs to occur is that the state needs to be sued in return by someone who gets attacked in this manner, whom otherwise may not have been but for the liberalisation of these bathroom rules. A tough case to make but one worth making imo. The money talks and maybe then they will see sense... risk mitigation works both ways- for the consumer of the service and the provider. These kinds of rules from government are to protect against the claims they keep having against them.. The people in the actual positions just seem too stupid to be able to defend against them.

In fact maybe you have a case based on you entitlement to use public benefits, in this case public bathrooms. Is it discriminative based on the fact that as a result of policy, risk levels are much higher to certain groups, ie women and children in particular. Unfit for purpose public benefit.

Maybe life and health insurance companies will question in future whether you use public bathrooms and if you do, given their new lower levels of safety, the premiums for those that do go up. This is as direct financial incurrence that otherwise wouldn't be there lol

No, use x and y signs. Chromosomes are the same forever. Penises can be removed. This does not mean male bone density suddenly lessens to the female bone density range, or that physical strength decreases. Or that all male carnal desire is removed permanently, even if suppressed it does not mean they may not reappear.

People of these "persuasions" often seem less able to control their emotions during debate. This would seemingly be a signal that they may not be able to do so under other circumstances either where their "Feelings" are engaged and drive their actions. These feelings would include sexual urges and primal instinct etc. Separate bathrooms have always simply been a means of protecting against this.