_________________"[Some flutists] place the flute between the upper lip and the nose, blowing the instrument from below. This position does not prevent good playing, but it does not look graceful."~ Antoine Mahaut, 1759 in a tutor for playing the transverse flute ~

_________________"[Some flutists] place the flute between the upper lip and the nose, blowing the instrument from below. This position does not prevent good playing, but it does not look graceful."~ Antoine Mahaut, 1759 in a tutor for playing the transverse flute ~

An aside from the thread and for anyone's academic interest Richard Shusterman addresses rap, hip-hop, and country music in Performing Live - Aesthetic Alternatives for the Ends of Art, Cornell University Press, 2000.

The law in the US, since 2005 and the case of Bridgeport must vs Dimension filcms, has been that any recognizable sample must be lisenced.

It's hard to see what harm this does to Paddy Maloney. It surely did not stop a single person from buying Chieftains seven: in fact it's more likely to have made people unfamiliar with the music look into it.

I like that it speaks to the complicated interplay of African American and irish traditions in the US., which is less well known than it should be. Thousands of African American in the US trace their families back to ireland: its extremely common. Interestingly, I'm actually a back man in the state in which I reside. it's a comical and startling story of hw an immigrant from Donegal got to be a black man: http://theaporetic.com/?p=54

As far as sampling being theft, that seems to me to be a little unclear. Music is built on imitation--I'm currently studying Micho Russell's whistle playing and incorporating his style into my own playing. Do I need to pay the estate of Micho every time I play "the Ten Penny Bit?"

One of my students did a short film about sampling a few years ago. I thought he made a good argument

I'm sure paddy and his band oflawyers and accountants madesure that everyone paid up forthe use. As for sampling, howhard is it to come up with a similar idea? Veiled theft even in the form of blatant imitation at least is somewhatmore creative.

_________________Information is not knowledge.
Knowledge is not wisdom.
Wisdom is not truth.
Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love.
Love is not music. Music is the best.
- Frank Zappa

"I like that it speaks to the complicated interplay of African American and irish traditions in the US., which is less well known than it should be. Thousands of African American in the US trace their families back to ireland: its extremely common. Interestingly, I'm actually a back man in the state in which I reside. it's a comical and startling story of hw an immigrant from Donegal got to be a black man: http://theaporetic.com/?p=54" PB+J

What complicated interplay between African American and Irish traditions?

The link you gave PB+J was interesting in that it revealed an evil racism resident in the U.S. towards people of African descent that rivalled that of Nazi Germany's attitude towards Jewish people

When I first saw the title of this thread, I misread it and thought it was Paddy Moloney rip, and I thought, oh no, not another. It's been a tough year or so, in that sense. Thankfully, Paddy is still touring. The Chieftains website has them in Limerick next week, and in the US next February and March.

"I like that it speaks to the complicated interplay of African American and irish traditions in the US., which is less well known than it should be. Thousands of African American in the US trace their families back to ireland: its extremely common. Interestingly, I'm actually a back man in the state in which I reside. it's a comical and startling story of hw an immigrant from Donegal got to be a black man: http://theaporetic.com/?p=54" PB+J

What complicated interplay between African American and Irish traditions?

The link you gave PB+J was interesting in that it revealed an evil racism resident in the U.S. towards people of African descent that rivalled that of Nazi Germany's attitude towards Jewish people

LET ME BE PERFECTLY CLEAR ON THIS ONE:I'M COMMENTING STRICTLY ON WHAT I CONSIDER TO BETHE THEFT OF MUSIC FOR PROFIT NO MATTER WHAT HOWTHAT THEFT IS LABLED AND/OR PAID FOR LEGALLY OR OTHERWISE! THAT AND ONLY THAT!!!

_________________Information is not knowledge.
Knowledge is not wisdom.
Wisdom is not truth.
Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love.
Love is not music. Music is the best.
- Frank Zappa

"LET ME BE PERFECTLY CLEAR ON THIS ONE:I'M COMMENTING STRICTLY ON WHAT I CONSIDER TO BETHE THEFT OF MUSIC FOR PROFIT NO MATTER WHAT HOWTHAT THEFT IS LABLED AND/OR PAID FOR LEGALLY OR OTHERWISE! THAT AND ONLY THAT!!!" O.

Could you speak louder please, we can't hear you at the back.

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