I remeber first time I heard about it. At a MYF outing....red full moon.....

Matthew 24;29 Immediately after the distress of those days...'the sun will be darkened,and the moon will not give it's light;

the stars will fall from the sky,and the heavenly 'bodies' will be shaken. At that 'time' the sign of the SON OF MAN WILL APPEAR

IN THE SKY AND ALL THE NATIONS OF THE EARTH SHALL MOURN. THEY WILL SEE THE SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF

THE SKY,WITH POWER AND GREAT GLORY,AND HE WILL SEND HIS ANGELS WITH A LOUD TRUMPET CALL AND THEY WILL GATHER

HIS ELECT FROM THE FOUR WINDS,FROM ONE END OF THE HEAVENS TO ANOTHER

I've been trying to ignore this elenin stuff but it's pretty hard to ignore.

"heavenly bodies shaken"---the earth was knocked off her axis a small amount by the chili earthquake and the day shortened by a few seconds. Same thing could happen with Elenin.

"moon turning to blood""sun darkened""moon not giving its light"--at some point this month we are supposed to be aligned with elenin and the sun--with elenin between us and the sun. Eclipse of the moon will happen. Sun might be darkened?

"the sign of the son of man will appear in the sky"---elenin might appear as a second sun in the sky--the Sun of righteousness?"the stars will fall from the sky"--we will go through elenin's meteor tail

"the son of man will come with clouds"--elenin seems to be accompanied by other bodies'they will gather his elect"--we are close to the feast of trumpets, sept 28-29

It looks like it's breaking up, but I don't know exactly what that might mean or still look like.

It would be interesting to see some takes on this from at least a partial preterist POV [varying amount of many things already fulfilled]. I personally think FULL Preterism ["all" things already fulfilled] can get a little "out there" In fact, if not careful it looks like some might hurt themselves from the contortions ). However, there are some interesting articles though about Jesus' words, "signs of the 'end' ", which generation, etc., and how some link SOME of that to 70 AD.

Saying it's interesting, not arguing one way or the other. :) I like to look at different sides of things.

Also, if I'm reading your OP correctly sheila, I believe you're saying these are good things, signs of good things coming. I agree. However, "all the nations will mourn, peoples' heart failing them for fear, etc. " are to say the least, an interesting statement.

Then there's the metaphorical/spiritual take, that many of these signs and events have to do with what will be occurring within each of us - that it's not all literal events to be seen with the eye - either past or future.

Rev 121And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

2And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

3And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

4And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

5And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

"caught up to God" is the rapture verb--harpazo

There are some who are saying this sign will happen at the end of Sept this year. In the constellation Virgo, clothed with the [rising] sun, Venus ready to be born, the moon at her feet. There are youtubes on this which illustrate it.

Of course this cannot be seen with the naked eye the way it can be seen with an illustration of the heavens.

There are others that say this arrangement also occurred at the birth of Jesus 2000 years ago, which would make sense.

The dragon ready to snatch the child when it is born would be one of these bodies--elenin, nibiru, asteroid x, whatever.

We know that there will be a literal sign in the heavens because there was when Christ was born, and God tells us in Gen 1 that he uses the heavens to give us signs of his appointed times. Remember the ones who did not miss the Christchild's birth were Daniel's magicians who had carried the knowledge of the sign of the birth of the king of the Jews for 400 years.

Jab don't use words like preterism. Some of us don't know what they mean and refuse to learn.

2Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God. 3Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

--Rev 3

But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.

2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

5Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

6Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

Some scriptures that point to a pre-tribulation 'rapture' [first resurrection] or at least midway through the 7 years of tribulation:

and to wait for his Son whom he raised from the dead to come back from heaven. This Jesus is the one who rescues us from the coming wrath.1 Thess 1:10

For this lawlessness is already at work secretly, and it will remain secret until the one who is holding it back steps out of the way.--2 Thess 2:7 [This implies the church with the indwelling Holy Spirit will be removed from the earth]

51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

--1 cor 15

For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17Then we which are alive and remain shall be [n]caught up[/b] together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

--1 Thess 4

9For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

--1 Thess 5

And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

27They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

28Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;

29But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

30Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

--Luke 17

And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.

35For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.

36Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

--Luke 21

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three feasts in sept-oct

feast of trumpets --Last trump blown

feast of atonement--so the Messiah was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people. And he will appear a second time, not to deal with sin, but to bring salvation to those who eagerly wait for him. [Heb 9:28]

feast of tabernacles [marriage supper of the bride]--1 Thessalonians 5:4 But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief.