Thanks Paul. Yeah they have a special where the $80 plan is $59 currently.
I’d be watching it off the phone (live) but I’m worried about it dropping out as it’d be over cellular. I just don’t get much confidence with Optus

Hey guys, for those of you who watch EPL. Does anyone have Optus sport?
I know that it’s not game related, but after a search of the forum there seems little recent talk about it and it’s merits. Other forums have canned Optus and their coverage, with **** resolution and clarity, drop outs etc common. However, as a human in this society I also know that people are more likely to post disgruntled comments than positive ones.
I’m up for a new phone and Optus seem dirty to me, but their EPL coverage is slightly tempting. I already get BeIN separately so watch other stuff, but having access to the EPL would be great.
Do any of you EPL fans use/have used Optus for their coverage? Anyone like it?

Like this below. Construction contains many sections, stages and milestones. Grading, form work, reo, Concrete, steel work, utilities, irrigation(?), drainage, internal structures & services, et al. I want to know the nitty gritty. I know full well it’s being built
Thanks for the update.
There’s always dust though. Parramatta is a hot construction zone these days

So anymore updates on the stadium? Anything more locked in?
I know we all love our opinions on what if’s and hypothetical situations, but there’s a tonne of work being done out there (my place is dusty AF as proof) so sort of hoped we could get more real updatesin here, rather than talking about league and their conservative food

Be fair Potkorok, this was their official Le Cove away trip. It’s not easy travelling so far which such little means. This is right up there with our Adelaide GF travel for difficulty and distance... can’t expect much

Your first point about SydFC is (possibly) exactly what’s happening with us now. We go through this shitty teething crap for the benefits in future. If this wasn’t a derby people would be pissed but not at “Imma throw ma membership in da fire” angry (not saying you are, I’ve just been watching social media respond). Nothing good in life comes for free, Gombau has a record of making things come very good after initial issues, so maybe in time other fans will be envious of our improvement.
The second point about the fans deciding which stadium to go to is a bit off I believe. When the decisions for a new stadium was being made, there pretty much weren’t any other viable options full term. With needing a stadium that housed ALL of our members (plus room for growth - optimistic), met FFAs rules on all active being in seated areas (stadiums didn’t have enough seating for our active and regular higher paying members), was central to all areas of Sydney, it limited it a great deal. Also, if my understanding is correct, Panthers didn’t want WSW playing at their stadium out at Penrith. Pretty sure our vote was superficial as the club knew what was actually available.
The third point is painful, but don’t forget that the HAL style has grown since we rocked up with our solid and simple defence. Teams and Attackers are more aware and able than they were, the gameplay has matured, even despite the game being held back by the FFA. That defence, if played now probably wouldn’t be a top 4 defence, probably mid table at best. Teams are best judged against their contemporaries, but when the base level of the sport has lifted then it’s hard to say a defence which gave possession away more wouldn’t have been punished greater against a faster and more complicated attack
I am hopeful that this pain now means that next season we are firing and a real contender. In 18 months time when we are back at OUR stadium, playing OUR football then we can have sit back and say the growing pains were worth it as it sets us up for the next decade. I’m no Nostradamus, but I am a hopeful (and realistic that with no relegation we can try and try and try again).
It sucks now, but where will we be in 2 years? We will have a brand new rectangular stadium back in our home land, with all the fruits of Parra CBD. The Gombau experiment is either flying, or gone and forgotten.
As a comparison, we look East to SydFC and they are wandering (lol) around trying to plant roots as their stadiums rebuilt. They struggle for fans now at their strongest which such a great team, how will they go without a proper permanent home?
I am usually a cynic, but I am very hopeful for our club

It’s hard to get my head around. We got thumped, but we also have players who were able to beat their players. As a group we were pretty **** in transition and poor in communication and execution, but that comes from not “knowing” one another, not knowing your position or expectations. So, what’s going on in training? Why were so many passes lost, they fell short of their targets, were too low and lacked conviction and confidence.
There are a few rules you can follow when defending 1-on-1, such as showing them the (side)line to keep them wide etc, but for fukcs sake stop letting the oppositions players use their preferred foot. Our guys were turning their polish maestro onto his favoured left foot, literally forcing him to play more aggressively. It’s basic football. Carney is a **** on the field, but his favoured foot is left so keep it on his right. It was infuriating to watch **** I’ve taught 12 year olds happening in professional football.
Our interplay through our mids was great (at times) and movement in counter attack was quick enough to bamboozle their (great) midfield, but we got to a point where we slowed down enough that that sydfc midfield and defence reorganised and we’d turn back inwards, allowing any holes to close up. If we used pace and released an early ball for one of our guys it may have reaped a chance (probably a horribly skewed shot), but instead we kept turning back in. STOP TRYING TO RUN THE ******* BALL OVER THE GOAL LINE. Barcelona break quickly and pass a lot, but they also know a quick pass and speed to profit from an opponents disorganised mid/defence when in transition.
anyway, there’s so much wrong that it’ll keep our coaches and players busy for a while

Yeah the clubs trying to figure it out, attendances weren’t mentioned at our meeting and the point was made that it should be told to supporters (whether they do or not is up to them) because we all have the impression that it will. Was it in an email at some point?
It’s more based off your start date (and and your groups joining dates) and section. The issue is that whole western stand having to be moved... haven’t heard how they’ll do that. Good luck haha, I’m not envious

I like to imagine that it's a veiled swipe at lowys attempts at being head of football in Australia. That's probably due to my severe hatred for the fact he is in the current position when he doesn't deserve to be and is an arrogant ****
...anyway, yeah probs about Arnie

No, this is about our club always being cast as the cu*ts and other teams supporters being let off scott free.
It's bullsh*t. The banner was dumb.I acknowledge that, We copped the punishment as we should.An apology was given, as it should.
But there were two sets of supporters at that game, and the team that I support (WSW) didn't destroy property or throw objects at the other teams players.
We tell our kids that there are consequences for their actions,of the need to be respectful of other people, and of other peoples property.
The FFA are hypocrital chunts. a banner with a dick cost us a show cause notice and $ 20K....Ripping up public property and throwing missiles onto the field.............. ZERO.
BULLSH*T.
There are times when you have to say enough is enough and fire back otherwise you end up being the whiiping boys for the media for being nothing else than someone from western sydney.
Mostly I was talking about how much we have trashed stadiums and broke chairs. We're a bit rowdy gang and we have done it A LOT over the years. Why are we making a fuss over the Easties doing something so TERRIBLE when its something we have been doing up and down the land since day 1.
Because we get hanged for it (breaking chairs) and they dont get anything for the same thing plus also throwing them as objects/weapons/whateverthe****youwannacallthem.
The smurf loving journalists have made sure our banner has enraged the public/FFA enough that it covers the sins of their own fans. Not sure where you lie, but attacking riot police is worse than a cartoon banner in my books
The biggest issue with the HAL is inconsistency, not just on field but also off field in the public eye and media. I'll happily cop whatever punishment we deserve as long as the same incidents elsewhere by others get the same ramifications