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The Sims 2: Castaway (DS)

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You start off with a map with a limited number of locations. As you play you learn more and unravel more locations to explore. Overall a good game, though can be completed quickly, and may therefore not be worth ?30. „

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A fun and good game to play. Well created and will keep you occupied for awhile

The Sims. Now I'm pretty sure nearly everybody knows or has heard of The Sims game series. However, The Sims 2 Castaway wasn't your average Sims game. Marooned on a tropical island with no pizza delivery guy just a phone call away! Can you survive the island?! Will this game leave you ranting and raving like a crazy frustrated Sim or experiencing a very different Sim life...

Story: Marooned on a tropical island with no home comforts, how will your Sim survive?! With items washed a shore and foraging for food and other objects to create items of usefulness, it's time to star in your very own 'Lost', minus the weird black smoke and polar bears! However, there is a doctor on the island! As you explore more of the island you find other Sims. Helping them out and trading with them helps you get closer to rescue and safety. But will help come or will the island become our final destination.

Visuals: Once you get the create your Sim part done, the cool comic strip story on how you become a castaway on this island is really well and cleverly done. It wasn't just a boring little add in, they thought lets make it clear, short and fun explaining the back story. The screens in game are nice and bright, with the weather changes and the differences between night and day made quite well. With the moon rising or sun rising signalling the change in day to night. I like the stormy weather graphics, it does look good for the DS graphics and a 2007 game. The characters are a bit pixilated and not as clear as the environments but they are more than adequate. The environments are well created and designed and do look really enchanting. The rich blue of the sea and the water fall hitting the rocks in the stream. The foliage looks nice and green and when you shake the trees, you see the trees move from the force of your Sim. For a 2007 DS game, I definitely think visually it is a very good game.

Audio: Seagulls, waves crashing the beach and then sounds of crickets as you enter the jungles. The audio is all right and does sound realistic. Not going to get you excited at all but gives a nice overall feel to the game and makes it feel like your on this lost island paradise yourself...if only.

Gameplay: This game uses the DS stylus and touch screen really well. The controls are easy to pick up and still quite fun to do. The use of the stylus in the mini games (fishing, bug hunting, starting fires and painting) actually enhances these added features to the main game. The smoothness and realistic feel of the stylus control was well thought out and executed real good. I have talked about gimmicky use of the stylus before in DS games but they haven't done this at all. They have used the touch screen to make this game such a greater experience for the player. Well thought out and well worked by the creators.

There is a tutorial at the beginning which is not long but covers the basics quite well. You also have this help to hand throughout the game if you need to look up some information again. The in game menu (the little blue book in top left corner of the screen) is put together nicely and holds all the information you need on the different objects you have (fishing spear, hammer, hatchet etc), your inventory of food (bananas, peaches, tomatoes, coconuts and the various different species of fish available), clothing you own and can change at any time, a map which you should use to travel around the island using the fast travel ability (you can only fast travel to places you have already visited beforehand), templates (which are used to create different meals of food, items of clothing, objects) and finally a relationships tab (which shows how much your fellow castaways like you or hate you). The whole set up of the menus is easy to navigate and read and doesn't feel like it crowds the screen with all the information.

Your Sim has six bars that you need to keep filled, which will then show how happy they are via the bigger bar in the bottom left hand corner of the top screen. These are: hunger, energy, social, comfort, hygiene and bladder. As you can see, these are very similar to normal Sims attributes but just slightly less.

Foraging and exploring is the main point of this game. You need to forge for food to keep down the hunger. For energy you build a shelter at the beginning of the game to sleep in, although the first shelter is really poor so you don't receive many energy points back. But you can upgrade your shelter which will improve on how much energy points you will receive. Social is really easy to keep up on this game, just go around and talk to the other characters. Comfort again is affected by your level of shelter and also weather conditions play apart as rain affects comfort levels. Creating a fire will help and washing does as well. For hygiene you can wash in any body of water however, different areas of water do better at restoring your hygiene bar. The best is the fresh lake found inland past the vegetable garden area. Bladder is kind of obvious and it's obvious where you do your business. Bushes of course! After going to the toilet though, your hygiene levels drop dramatically so go wash yourself afterwards. Oh and don't let your energy and hunger levels get too low. Otherwise you will faint and although these cheeky monkeys look helpful when taking you back to your shelter, they take some of items as payment, so watch your bars carefully.

Conclusion: I am a fan of The Sims series of games and enjoy simulation games and liked the look of this game. It was different yet still had that Sims feel running through it. Everything about this game is cleverly done, from the enchanting looking graphics to the brilliant use of the stylus and touch screen of the DS in the mini games. With Sims games you are effectively doing the same thing over and over again and yet they mange to keep it exciting and quite additive. I'm not sure how something so simple is so addictive but whatever they do, they do it so well and keep all the fans happy. This game is no different at all, it will keep you playing as your Sim in your quest to get off the island. One of best part of this game is the really cool mini games. Not only are they fun to play, but they are good to use to break up the play of foraging and extend the game to last longer as well. Don't get me wrong, these mini games haven't been put in just fill out the game a bit more, you have to play this mini games to complete various tasks and to catch some food.

The Sims 2 Castaway is a real fun game and although set on an island with tasks to complete, it still is very much a Sims game. You will spend hours just keeping your Sims happy, foraging for food, items and helping out other Sims, but it doesn't become boring to me. The great use of stylus and clever user interface keeps you interested and also so easy to spend hours at a time playing. A 2007 game but I would totally recommend giving this a go to anyone who hasn't played this yet. It will keep you playing but you don't have to invest too much time or energy like the other Sims games. You can pick up and play on your DS whenever and still feel in charge of your Sim but have fun in this different environment. Try it for yourself and at £8.99 at GAME, I would say well worth the cash.

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One of the best Sim games ever!

I borrowed this game off a friend and I was very reluctant to give it back as it was such a good game!

~Packaging and Appearance~On the front of the box is a picture of the Sims on a tropical island. The people pictured on the front are not in the game, but they are probably showing what you can make your Sim look like.

~Plot~Your Sim was sailing on ship when there was a terrible storm and your Sim got thrown into the sea and washed onto an island! It's your job to explore the island to find tools, food and maybe a few other people so you can survive and thrive on the island before help comes.

~Game~Like every Sim game, you have to make a Sim at the beginning by choosing hair, skin tone, gender and clothes. You are then on a little section of the island and you will see a few palm fronds, sticks and a slice of melon. The game will tell you what to do when you first are on the island. It will tell you to eat the melon to filly yourself up, then build a little shelter with the palm fronds and a long pole. You will also need to light a fire to keep yourself warm. As you find fish, fruit and veg you will also be able to cook meals over the fire.

You can explore by tapping the place on the ground that you want your Sim to walk to. There are many different parts of the island and you can find people to talk to as well. You will have to do errands for them and then they will give you some much needed items in return. But you will also need to remember to keep an eye on your Sim's sanity and fill each bar up when it is low.

You can also play fun minigames whenever you want. You can fish, sqaush bugs, light your fire, paint pictures with the pigments from the sqaushed bigs and dye clothes, also with the pigments of the sqaushed bugs.

~Price~As with all games, the prcie depends on where you get it from, but from Amazon it's £14.99, which is very cheap.

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The Sims 2: Castaway is a game that takes the main idea of the Sims games (controlling a character & satisfying their needs) & successfully combines it with a specific storyline to follow & more concrete goals to achieve.

Like in all Sims games, you start off by creating a character. You choose their gender, skin & hair colour, hairstyle & clothes, & give your Sim a name. Obviously there aren't as many customisation options at this point as in the main Sims games available for the PC, but there are still plenty of different choices to allow you to create a unique character, & the animations are more realistic than I'd expected.

Next you find out that your Sim has washed ashore on a tropical island! The point of the game is to explore the island, build a shelter, find food, craft different items & help out the other castaways you meet, & eventually find a way to escape the island. And all the while you need to remember to fulfill all your Sim's needs - like in most other Sims games, your Sim has bars showing whether they require food, drink, sleep, a wash, social interaction & so on (these are shown in the top screen so they're always visible but not intrusive). These bars seem to go down at just the right rate, allowing you enough time to do other tasks - you don't just feel like you're spending the whole time fulfilling needs. Days also pass at a good rate (although you can speed up time if necessary) & are convincingly divided into day & night. The time of day is also shown on the top screen.

The controls all use the touch screen, for example you can touch where you want your Sim to walk to, or touch an object or person for them to interact with.

As you explore the island, you collect different things (such as fruit, leaves & branches) which are stored in your inventory. These things can be traded with other castaways, or used to craft new items. You can also collect seeds & plant them to grow things like fruits, vegetables, nuts & grasses.

The main storyline of the game involves exploring the whole island (there's a map that shows you how much you've explored) & interacting with other castaways. To be able to access every area & to be able to help the castaways, you'll have to find, trade & craft different objects. It's not just about collecting things though, there is some logical deduction involved, e.g. you need to work out which objects to combine to create certain tools, & which tools to use to accomplish different tasks.

Each castaway you meet has their own story & their own requirements. You need to stay friends with them by visiting them regularly as well as getting them the objects they require. Once you've seen the whole island & satisfied every castaway, you'll eventually be able to find a way off the island & that's the end of the main storyline.

You don't have to leave the island though & you can carry on as there are still other things to accomplish - mainly collecting & crafting all the different objects available. There are also mini-games which are fun & also provide items necessary to progress through the game.

The mini games include:

Spear fishing: you catch fish with a spear by tapping the screen when you see a fish coming. This is quite addictive and more challenging than it sounds!

Bug hunting: you lift a rock & have to squish as many bugs as possible (by tapping them with the stylus) before they scuttle off the screen. Also quite addictive. You get the best items from this if you manage to squish every bug.

Fire lighting: this is a bit too simple to really be called a mini-game, although the manual lists it as one. I like it though as it's a clever use of the DS's unique features: you need to light a fire by sliding the stylus up & down the log, & then blowing into the microphone to get the fire going.

You can easily save at any point in the game by going to sleep in your hammock. Something I particularly liked about the game is that it's very easy to travel around the island: once you've visited an area once, to go back there you can just tap that area on the map, which is much easier than having to walk all the way back there (the island is quite big!).

In this game, the animations are quite realistic (as opposed to the cartoon style of the 'My Sims' games which are also available on DS). I found the characters, objects & backgrounds to be very impressive for a console with such a small screen.

I found this game to be really addictive - it really makes you want to find every area on the island, get all the items for each castaway & craft all the different items available. I played this game as much as I possibly could for a week or so, until I completed it. There's plenty of gameplay in it & I'd advise trying to ration yourself to only playing for about half an hour a day otherwise the game is completed too quickly which is a shame. I loved it while I was playing it but I don't have much interest in starting it again now I've completed it.

According to the box this game is suitable for ages 12+. Its RRP is £19.99 & it's currently available on Amazon for £14.99.

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Different, amusing, fun, but a bit short.

I'm a great lover of the Sims games, so I was intrigued by the variety of different Sims 2 games that were suddenly released for the DS.

After some careful reading of existing reviews, and product descriptions, I decided to try Sims 2 Castaway.

The plot to the game centres on your little lost sim who has found her/himself stranded on a desert island. You need to help your sim find their way off the island and back to civilisation.

It being one of the very first games I played on my newly bought DS, I was extremely over excited when I discovered that for my little Sim lady to be able to light a fire, I not only had to help by rubbing the pieces of wood to create a spark (using the touch pad obviously!) but by also BLOWING to help the flames grow! (into the speaker) A fantastic use of the DS system!

However, other than lighting a fire, the full flexibility of the DS seemed not to be utilised to it's full advantage for the rest of the time. Such a shame after such a promising start.

This game takes the idea of Sims 2 to a new level - incorporating growing plants and interacting with other sims, with old style adventure type games. To enable a fellow shipwrecked sim to help you, you first need to find or create an item they might need. This directed and problem solving play gives a new dimension to The Sims 2.

You can roam the island freely, rather than being restructured to one 'plot' or lengthly loading times when travelling about (as in the PC version of Sims 2), which pushes you gently towards the new time of game play incorporated in The Sims 3.

My main complaint is that the game itself seems relatively short, and once completed, there's little motivation to re-play it. There are also many familiar interactions and game play issues that you cannot do which are second nature in the PC version of The Sims 2. But if you approach this game as an independent item, rather than another 'expansion pack' of the normal Sims 2, then you should appreciate it for what it is.

Some people love this game, some hate it. I didn't mind it. It's just a shame I completed it fairly quickly.

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Contol a helpless individual into finding a way of a remote island its been stranded on.

I have always been a fan of the sims games. The idea of creating characters and controlling their lives in a way we would not usually conduct ourselves provides great escapism. This time the sim takes form of a washed up civilian who needs to surivive by relying on cocktails of strange food combinations aswell as venturing deeper and deeper into the unknown island.

The sims 2 castaway provides more of a storyline and structure to quests. It expands on the original sim conventions by making sure your sim is kept happy and also enables you to personalise your sim to give it an individual identity.

The challenges aren't that difficult but at the same time involve such fustration that completion of the game becomes priority. Online cheats and walk throughs are availiable online for those who find the game too challenging.

I would recommend this game to existing sims fans aswell as those who enjoy the idea of control and distruction of helpless characters. The sims2 castaway is a truly enjoyable game for all ages.

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Great Game

I have been a fan of the sims games for a long time so therefore when I purchased my DS I purchased this straight away. As the title suggests, in the Sims 2 : Castaway you play the role of a sim stranded on a dessert island. To begin with you build your shelter and then begin to explore the island. As you progress through the game, more sections of the island become available to access and you can do different tasks. For example, you can interact with other sims on the island, grow food, pick fruit, go swimming, go fishing and bathe. Similar to the other sims games, you need to keep the sims various levels high enough eg. tiredness, hunger and basically look after your sim. There is always something new to discover on the island. Good game, perfect for fans of the sims with an interesting twist.

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Well worth buying.

I came across this game purely by chance, as I got it in a bundle when I purchased my nintendo DS. To be honest only chose it as there were no other games which took my eye and expected the sims format to be very boring. I decided to give the game a go and was very pleasently surprised. As the name might suggest you are stranded on a desert island. The game begins with you chosing your sims details such as gender, name and basic clothes. You are then on the island with literally nothing except for a few tress. The game starts in tutorial mode where you begin to learn the basics. You have very few locations on your map initially, and as you move through the relevent steps you learn more and gain more locations to explore. As you move around you find things, which you can then use to make objects clothes or food. For example a spade, whcih you can then use to dig with. As you move around the island you also begin to meet people who you can converse with and also swap things with. If you make food for the gardening lady she will give you seeds. If you grow the chef food he will give you more recipes, and so on and so forth. You can dive dig and fish to gain more wealths round the island. This is supposedly open ended game play, but I can only see very few people playing it once they have collected everything.

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Brilliant. Absolutely worth buying this game. 5 stars

This is a brilliant game!

I so loved this game, I have completed it now boo hoo!

You have to interact with other sims as usual, and grow food, build shelters etc but unusual for a sims game this one also has a storyline with engaging and fun puzzles to complete, objects to collect and things to make and do.Its well worth buying!

Good points:-

1) Interesting story line2) Gradually introduces new characters to keep storyline fresh3) Good challenging puzzles4) Interesting minigames and activities to do other than the main game.5) As usual with sim games good intercharacter interaction6) Good graphics7) Engaging, challenging and most importantly fun!

Bad points :-

1) It finished all too quickly, could have done with being twice as long a story

Honestly, this is an absolutely brilliant game, well worth it. Its fun and challenging at the same time. Although I finished it quickly I felt it was still well worth the money, and its holding its prices in swop shops due to high demand.

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The Sims console games are usually terrible, but this one scores on so many levels.

I imagine by now everyone has heard of The Sims, the hugely popular game from EA games. The PC game and it's many expansions are a huge success, and it's only a couple of months to go until The Sims 3 is released (I have mine pre-ordered!)

I have been a huge fan of The Sims since the first game came out onto the PC, and I have spent many hours on it and it's addicting gameplay. But as well as the PC games, EA also like to pump out console versions every now and then. Whilst not really the same as the PC game, alot of the basics are. You control a Sim, who needs feeding, clothing, bathing and fun, much like a human tamagotchi. Personally I'm not really one for the console games they bring out, I don't them anywhere near as fun and addicting as the PC games themselves, however I did buy The Sims Castaway for the Wii, and surprisingly enjoyed it! I bought The Sims Castaway DS for my DS addict sister for her birthday last year. She hasn't got around to playing it yet, so I decided to pinch it and give it a go.

The Sims Castaway DS involves your Sim, you choose a male or female character, dress them, choose their hair style and name them right at the very start. From there a short amusing clip plays showing you how your Sims ends up on an island. The game is very helpful from the start, it explains things as you come to them and before you know it you're building your first shelter, fire and exploring the island to figure out a way to get off it. There's lots of little fun things to do, for example your sim makes a fire, this involves you rubbing the DS across a plank of wood, then blowing into your DS to get the fire to light. Don't play this game on the bus, you will get weird looks.

Your Sim needs to eat, you find coconut tree's to shake, and rocks to hunt bugs under. You soon gain a spear and go fishing in the sea, trying frantically to stab your DS at tiny fish that swim around so fast. You can find bushes for your Sim to go to the toilet... and small streams for your Sim to have a wash in. The usual Sims style indicators are on the top screen, explaining how low each area is. There is:

- Hunger- Comfort- Social- Bladder- Hygiene- Energy

The game has a night and day, but I wouldn't recommend just sending your Sim to bed at night, as there's long of things you can only obtain during the night on this game! Your Sim has a little home camp with their shelter and a campfire, you can send them to the shelter to sleep when they're tired, and also to save the game.

The game does have goals all the way through it. To unlock the next part of the island you may have to do certain tasks. For example, some vines are blocking the path and your sim needs something sharp to cut them down... You come across other Sims also shipwrecked on the island (it's turning into an episode of Lost by this point...) and you can offer them help. They rattle off something they need and you need to go and find it on the island, whether it's a certain fish or insect. The little goals are very addicting and help keep the game flowing nicely.

Admittedly I did become stuck on a certain goal, and in the end I resulted to finding out the answer on the Internet. To be honest it can become a bit puzzling, you may not be sure how to find a certain insect for example, and for this reason I don't think this game would be good for younger children.

You have a map of the island, which helps alot, as you can tap on an area to be transported there straight away rather than going through endless screens to get to that area. Moving around the island is easy, you simply tap the stylus on the ground to where you want your Sim to move. It can be tricky at times when certain interactable objects are there, for example I tap somewhere on the ground near a rock and the rock's menu will open up instead asking me if I want to go hunting for bugs.

Of course the aim of the game is to get off the island, I won't spoil it for you because it's an addicting little game to play through, certainly a one you'll want to finish.

The graphics on this game are good for a DS game and the sounds of the island are just as good, whether it's waterfalls or insects or that radio your Sim found on the island, it's not bad audio.

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Another Excellent Sims game

Everyone has heard of Sims, whether you play it or not it's a worldwide phenomenon, The Sims 2: Castaway. Is an excellent addition to this ever growing empire.

As with all sim games you are responsible for your own character and her basic needs such as sleep, hygiene, hunger etc etc. But here's the challenging part you've just landed slapbang on an island making it harder for you to fulfill these needs. You have to fish and forage for food. Craft equipment and shelter and also help out other Sims on the Island.

All of this makes it a wonderful change to the Sim games as you have to search to fill your motives. As well as an engaging story there's also plenty of items to collect on the island and lots of fun things to do.

Overall: I loved this game but I'm a very avid follower of the Sim games. If you like simulation games you'll love this. However if they're not your cup of tea you may find it a bit tiresome and repetitive.

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Challenging and enjoyable. Highly recommended.

The Sims 2 'Castaway' is a brilliant game for players who are fans of Lost and Castaway. The game begins with you creating a Sim and giving him/her a name. You are then stranded on a beach where you have to learn how to make a bed, fire an hunt for food.

The ultimate objective of the game is to find a away off the island. Of course, its not as easy as you think an in order to achieve this, you have to complete a list of objectives in the name of tasks, such as build a canoe, hunt for rare fish and collect objects in order to construct various tools.

Players who require free gameplay should be discouraged from playing the game as it is different from the Sims 2 PC editions in that there is a very clear path that you have to lead.

It is challenging and at times fustrating, but a fun game that will have you entertained for hours!

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Overall a good game though very short, I completed it in 8 hours.

I have loved a number of the SIM's games and played them on my Gameboy Advance a few years ago. Having got a DS lite for Christmas I bought Castaway along with Sims 2 Pets. As the name suggests, you are stranded on a desert island and have to complete tasks etc through the game in order to (hopefully!) get off the island.

As soon as I started playing I was totally hooked, it is a good game and provides many, many hours of gameplay (even after completion). You are set different tasks by the other castaways in which you gain rewards in return. The mini-games are also good fun such as However the challenge comes not in perfecting skills at fishing or bug catching, but being patient and waiting for what feels like hours until you have found that one rare item that will allow you to create the tool that you can then use to make the item to trade with the required person, to allow you to continue with the game. It is an inventive game, and is set so you play it at your own pace. I completed the game (by getting off the island) having only actually completed about 50% of the game which was a shame though I could go back to playing it if I wished (although it's just not the same!!)

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Come fishing and catching bugs with me in the Sims

I have always been a huge fan of the Sims games but they eat up so much of my time when I received Sims 2 castaway for Christmas I didn't know whether to be happy or not.

I have had this game two days now and I am not sure how long this game will keep me busy for though as I have completed 7 % and only really played it for a couple of hours. I am hoping that once you have completed it there is still plenty to do just living as a sim.

The Sims is a game which involves creating a person you can choose there sex, clothes, skin colour, shoes, hat etc. I do not enjoy that bit but my 6-year-old daughter loves designing people.

Once your person is ready to go you, get a brief story about being deserted on the island. You are then free to explore the island and find things, which you can use later on. Once you have found some branches and leaves you can construct a shelter. Then you can wash in the sea, hunt for food, and collect more things. After a few minutes, I discovered another person and after getting them some things from around the island, she then offered items for trade, which meant finding more items.

You can get food for the sim by collecting bugs from under rocks and using a spear to stab fish in the sea. Different areas of the island have different fish and bugs.

There are bars on the top screen, which shows the levels like social, comfort, hygiene, bladder, energy and bladder and hunger. Part of the aim of the games is to keep these bars green. The sim needs to eat to prevent her getting hunger. To keep her levels of comfort up she need to sleep, or eat, or bath. Her hygiene can be improved by letting her wash on the sea. Bladder will improve if you find a bush for them to wee (and the other) in. The sim needs to chat to people to keep her social levels green.

So you are busy keeping the levels all as green as possible but you also have to find time to look for things around the island and travel from one end to the other to see people etc as well as catching fish, bugs, making clothes, etc. It gets very busy once you get going and very addictive.

I love the mini games like catching fish, catching bugs, lighting the fire etc. It is hard to keep all the levels up high and completing the challenges.

I am really enjoying this game and I can see myself being very hooked once I get a bit further. The problem with the Sims is that it takes a while to get going and find out what you need to do and how to do it. To start with, the game can be very boring.

Overall, I would recommend this game. It can be bought from Amazon for £14.99. For that price, I think this game is good. This game is rated as suitable for children over 12 years old I have no idea why yet but I might find out if I keep playing.

I know a lot of people don't enjoy sim games as it is to close to real life finding a job etc but this sims game is different as you are on an island in the sun so you can escape from life a bit more.

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Good game for the DS

The Sims Castaway 2 is a great game and addition to the other sims games available.It is designed for children aged 12+, but as a 20 year old i still thoroughly enjoy it! Anyone who enjoys the sims on the PC version is guaranteed to enjoy this one as well.The game involves exploring the island and ensuring the survival of the sims, by feeding them, washing them, crafting survival pieces and ensuring they interact with others on the island.It is a great game to have for the nintendo DS.

My only criticims of the game is that it can become quite mundane and some of the activities can be boring when repeated over and over again. For example hunting for fish to eat involves the same thing over again. It can become quite fustrating waiting to move onto the next area of the island whilst continuing with the same tasks.

It is a great game, probably most suited for teenagers.

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Give it a try but don't expect a brilliant game

Sims 2 Castaway for the DS is an interesting addition to the Sims family. The graphics aren't as good as the PC version and at times some of the games involved are a little monotonous. You have to fish and hunt for food to feed your Sim and this gets a bit boring, as the fishing aspect is very samey.

The challenges involved in the game are quite interesting though and do leave you stumped on quite a few occasions. I must admit on one occasion I resorted to "googling" the answer to the challenge that I simply could not beat! There is not enough interaction with the other Sims for my liking, as I had hoped it would be a game where you build a Sim community to survive, but your Sim does basically live on his/her own and occasionally meet the other Sims to get items.

I enjoyed playing the game while it lasted, but once you had solved all the challenges the game was over and it seemed a bit...final! I would recommend trying it out, but would not say that it is one of the best DS games that I have ever bought and is not worth the £30 I paid for it.