kentington wrote:For the politics mostly. I could tolerate them if it wasn't for the politics. Mostly because their politics were very hypocritical.

My brother in law (American) won't listen to them after the American Idiot album, for much the same reason. I don't really sympathise with the reason, but I can certainly understand not wanting to listen to them pontificate.

Ah, that Album was just icing on the cake. I had heard the lead singer speaking in an interview on a talk show or something awhile back. He was saying how much he hated capitalism and how rich people are the bad guys yadda yadda.But he is a product of capitalism and he is a rich guy trying to look like a regular person. I am annoyed with him as people were with Romney. I would prefer silence.

kentington wrote:Ah, that Album was just icing on the cake. I had heard the lead singer speaking in an interview on a talk show or something awhile back. He was saying how much he hated capitalism and how rich people are the bad guys yadda yadda.But he is a product of capitalism and he is a rich guy trying to look like a regular person. I am annoyed with him as people were with Romney. I would prefer silence.

I'd like it if it was a smarter critique, or maybe some more specific cause. I've got no problem with someone bucking the system that produced them, as long as it's done with a bit more merit, smarts, and musical cleverness.

kentington wrote:Ah, that Album was just icing on the cake. I had heard the lead singer speaking in an interview on a talk show or something awhile back. He was saying how much he hated capitalism and how rich people are the bad guys yadda yadda.But he is a product of capitalism and he is a rich guy trying to look like a regular person. I am annoyed with him as people were with Romney. I would prefer silence.

I'd like it if it was a smarter critique, or maybe some more specific cause. I've got no problem with someone bucking the system that produced them, as long as it's done with a bit more merit, smarts, and musical cleverness.

Greenday, not so much.

Yes I agree. Cleverness is always appreciated. But blasting American Idiot. I can't believe American's are willing to buy it. He is laughing all the way to the bank. Also, if he was trying to do something to try to change the system that would be different, but he seems to just complain.

kentington wrote:Ah, that Album was just icing on the cake. I had heard the lead singer speaking in an interview on a talk show or something awhile back. He was saying how much he hated capitalism and how rich people are the bad guys yadda yadda.But he is a product of capitalism and he is a rich guy trying to look like a regular person. I am annoyed with him as people were with Romney. I would prefer silence.

I'd like it if it was a smarter critique, or maybe some more specific cause. I've got no problem with someone bucking the system that produced them, as long as it's done with a bit more merit, smarts, and musical cleverness.

Greenday, not so much.

Yes I agree. Cleverness is always appreciated. But blasting American Idiot. I can't believe American's are willing to buy it. He is laughing all the way to the bank. Also, if he was trying to do something to try to change the system that would be different, but he seems to just complain.

I took it as more an attack on the Bush era, but yeah- it wasn't a smart attack. When September Ends being the smartest song. If everything coming before isn't smart, and everything that follows isn't smart, a catchy tune with a bit of smarts ain't gonna cut the mustard.

kentington wrote:Ah, that Album was just icing on the cake. I had heard the lead singer speaking in an interview on a talk show or something awhile back. He was saying how much he hated capitalism and how rich people are the bad guys yadda yadda.But he is a product of capitalism and he is a rich guy trying to look like a regular person. I am annoyed with him as people were with Romney. I would prefer silence.

I'd like it if it was a smarter critique, or maybe some more specific cause. I've got no problem with someone bucking the system that produced them, as long as it's done with a bit more merit, smarts, and musical cleverness.

Greenday, not so much.

Yes I agree. Cleverness is always appreciated. But blasting American Idiot. I can't believe American's are willing to buy it. He is laughing all the way to the bank. Also, if he was trying to do something to try to change the system that would be different, but he seems to just complain.

I just like how they don't like america. It's a crappy country going outhill, + I just digg when someone says "idiot" and "america" in the same sentence.

I'm not solely picking on the U.S, I think there are a lot of countries with hyped egos, my own being one of them. I actually think the misstakes made in Sweden have been more severe than the misstakes made in US. But yes, americans are idiots (in general).

AoG for President of the World!!I promise he will put George W. Bush to shame!

Lootifer wrote:Generally I dont like specific or detailed lyrics of any kind (political or otherwise); music lyrics should be a form of poetry and thus try and maintain a certain abstractness about them.

I've never really been a fan of Green Day, but I don't think their politics would have pushed me away. It doesn't get much more vehemently liberal (or socialist) than Rage Against the Machine and they are one of my favorite bands of all time. "Who's down with DDT? / Yeah, you know me!"

thegreekdog wrote:I've never really been a fan of Green Day, but I don't think their politics would have pushed me away. It doesn't get much more vehemently liberal (or socialist) than Rage Against the Machine and they are one of my favorite bands of all time. "Who's down with DDT? / Yeah, you know me!"

Fair point, but they've always been pretty political, and smart with it- combining the music with the words.

kentington wrote:Ah, that Album was just icing on the cake. I had heard the lead singer speaking in an interview on a talk show or something awhile back. He was saying how much he hated capitalism and how rich people are the bad guys yadda yadda.But he is a product of capitalism and he is a rich guy trying to look like a regular person. I am annoyed with him as people were with Romney. I would prefer silence.

I'd like it if it was a smarter critique, or maybe some more specific cause. I've got no problem with someone bucking the system that produced them, as long as it's done with a bit more merit, smarts, and musical cleverness.

Greenday, not so much.

Yes I agree. Cleverness is always appreciated. But blasting American Idiot. I can't believe American's are willing to buy it. He is laughing all the way to the bank. Also, if he was trying to do something to try to change the system that would be different, but he seems to just complain.

I just like how they don't like america. It's a crappy country going outhill, + I just digg when someone says "idiot" and "america" in the same sentence.

I'm not solely picking on the U.S, I think there are a lot of countries with hyped egos, my own being one of them. I actually think the misstakes made in Sweden have been more severe than the misstakes made in US. But yes, americans are idiots (in general).

Lootifer wrote:Generally I dont like specific or detailed lyrics of any kind (political or otherwise); music lyrics should be a form of poetry and thus try and maintain a certain abstractness about them.

Lootifer wrote:Generally I dont like specific or detailed lyrics of any kind (political or otherwise); music lyrics should be a form of poetry and thus try and maintain a certain abstractness about them.

thegreekdog wrote:I've never really been a fan of Green Day, but I don't think their politics would have pushed me away. It doesn't get much more vehemently liberal (or socialist) than Rage Against the Machine and they are one of my favorite bands of all time. "Who's down with DDT? / Yeah, you know me!"

Fair point, but they've always been pretty political, and smart with it- combining the music with the words.

I don't think they are alone in that respect. Pearl Jam does a great job. So did Rage Against the Machine. I've heard Muse does it. Almost every System of a Down song is related to society or politics.

The difference is that I prefer Pearl Jam, Rage, and System of a Down to Green Day because of the music (and I like to think those musicians are much more talented than Green Day, but I may be wrong about that).