Pocket Ninja:Well, if the daughter (and the mom) had been carrying their own guns, this wouldn't have happened, now would it? He probably only felt empowered to do this because he knew they WEREN'T armed and were therefore easy victims. Remember: an armed society is a polite society. I'm glad we can have situations like this crop up every now and then to serve as just illustrations of that very important point.

theorellior:The Stealth Hippopotamus: If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!

Barracuda:I came here to say "WTF, AK's do not chamber the 7.62x54R round..."

Sounds like the guy bought a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle of Russian make which has been around since the 1800's. Fixed magazine, 5 total I think, bolt action. SOOOOOO... not an AK, not even a little. Well, if you consider them both being Russian make and wood stocks and the same diameter bullet... but holy fark are people pushing this AK / AR / Assault Rifle thing beyond stupid at this point.

But the disinformation is working very well. Fark is wall-to-wall with people who think that scary-looking rifles are assault rifles, and that people are dropping dead left and right because of them.

St. Paul police learned of the Jan. 13 incident after Bartashevitch's daughter sent a text message to a Central High School classmate, saying her father pointed an AK-47 at her

St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375.

tricycleracer:Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

Then what's the farking point? You may as well have pointed a hammer or an alligator at them.

"Is funny because they are all tools! Oh-HO!"

/mixing Family Guy in a Simpsons reference//this is a dangerous experiment///MOAR GUN THREADS PLZ

Well, if you are crazy enough to think you are going to overthrow the government or that anyone would want gun nuts to overthrow the government then you probably shouldn't be trusted with a donkey and cart either.

.A bunch of people in Egypt, Libya, Syria, and Algeria would like to have a word with you.

People like you remind me of the royal loyalists from the late 1700's, they were wetting their panties too.

david_gaithersburg:Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".

St. Paul police learned of the Jan. 13 incident after Bartashevitch's daughter sent a text message to a Central High School classmate, saying her father pointed an AK-47 at her

St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375.

Now why hasn't the wife been jailed for not protecting her daughter from cr*p like this? Not when the gun is pointed obviously but why the living fark didn't' she get her and her daughter to safety immediately after, OR call the cops and get this nut away from them?

St. Paul police learned of the Jan. 13 incident after Bartashevitch's daughter sent a text message to a Central High School classmate, saying her father pointed an AK-47 at her

St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375.

Cupajo:david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".

tricycleracer:Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

Then what's the farking point? You may as well have pointed a hammer or an alligator at them.

I can't help but wonder if the girl had an alligator of her own this whole thing might never have happened. I don't know, I'm just asking the question.

Dimensio:vpb: The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: That's why we need to limit the firepower.speed.

If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!

We already do regulate cars. They have to have things like break lights for instance. Cars manufactured after certain dates must have airbags, anti-lock brakes and such.

We need to regulate guns too.

What specific automobile models are banned by name?

I'm not terribly passionate on either side of this debate, but this got me wondering, and there actually are several.

GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve:tricycleracer: Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

Then what's the farking point? You may as well have pointed a hammer or an alligator at them.

You would be correct if we can be certain both the mother and daughter knew the weapon was not loaded.

Cupajo:david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".

.By the NRA you mean We The People. btw - The NRA gained 250,000 new members in just the past two weeks. I'll be joining them this weekend.

St. Paul police learned of the Jan. 13 incident after Bartashevitch's daughter sent a text message to a Central High School classmate, saying her father pointed an AK-47 at her

St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375.

If you want people to buy something you make them believe they are losing something.

I love all the people who really think that the White house isn't aware or couldn't calculate exactly what is happening right now.

If the president says he is going to take your guns, you are going to buy more guns and you are going to get mad at people who don't want guns. You are going to go onto Youtube and tell people that you are going to start killing people because Obama is black.