AUbicycles wrote:I don't have facts though know that there is random testing in the EU (duh!) and am speculating that testing every single meat shipment would explode costs and administration.

i would speculate the same. the purpose of testing is usually to provide a deterrent, by instilling a belief that there is a high enough chance of being caught to assess breaching standards a poor risk-reward proposition. there's no need to test every shipment. (incidentally this is what people really mean when they object to the proliferation of "revenue raising" speed cameras - the risk-reward proposition for speeding stops adding up)

brentono wrote:Try (take a look at) Ractopamine (Not on the WADA list, not observed in E.U. and legal inUSA, Canada, Japan, Mexico AND Australia!... same results as Clen)

I think you'll find it is prohibited. Ractopamine is a beta agonist.

S0. NON-APPROVED SUBSTANCESAny pharmacological substance which is not addressed by any of the subsequent sections of the List and with no current approval by any governmental regulatory health authority for human therapeutic use (i.e. drugs under pre-clinical or clinical development or discontinued) is prohibited at all times.

S3. BETA-2 AGONISTSAll beta-2 agonists (including both optical isomers where relevant) are prohibited except salbutamol (maximum 1600 micrograms over 24 hours) and salmeterol when taken by inhalation in accordance with the manufacturersâ€™ recommended therapeutic regime.

brentono wrote:Try (take a look at) Ractopamine (Not on the WADA list, not observed in E.U. and legal inUSA, Canada, Japan, Mexico AND Australia!... same results as Clen)

I think you'll find it is prohibited. Ractopamine is a beta agonist.

S0. NON-APPROVED SUBSTANCESAny pharmacological substance which is not addressed by any of the subsequent sections of the List and with no current approval by any governmental regulatory health authority for human therapeutic use (i.e. drugs under pre-clinical or clinical development or discontinued) is prohibited at all times.

S3. BETA-2 AGONISTSAll beta-2 agonists (including both optical isomers where relevant) are prohibited except salbutamol (maximum 1600 micrograms over 24 hours) and salmeterol when taken by inhalation in accordance with the manufacturersâ€™ recommended therapeutic regime.

Prohibited (maybe) but not analysed for (I would think) by WADA.... "Not on the WADA list" as stated. (and the point was, regularly found in the food chain)

Lone Rider- I rode on the long, dark road... before I danced under the lights.

it seems to have fizzled out a bit, in the media at least. the guy doesn't seem to be that closely connected to BMC - only helping out now and then. you'd imagine a team wouldn't trust their systemic doping program with a casual assistant.

The police turned up at the Quick Step hotel late on Friday afternoon and asked for the chauffer of the bus. They then took the bus to the police station in La Roche-sur-Yon, 50km from the Quick Step hotel and half way between the French coast and Mont des Alouettes, where the first stage of the Tour de France will finish on Saturday.

L'Equipe later reported that the team had been tipped off to the search before it happened, and that nothing suspicious was found on the bus and it is to be released back to the team tonight.

It is believed that the police had written legal permission to seize the bus but the Quick Step claimed they do not known the motive for the police action.

"The team wants to specify that no other team vehicle underwent any searches. The team feels' deeply harmed by the consequent media focus on what happened today, which we feel has damaged the team's image and the image of cycling in general," a statement read.

"I read that a rider said yesterday he had had three controls in 24 hours, there's a reason for that," McQuaid told reporters. "The reason is that the UCI continues to look (for cheaters) â€” and if necessary with two or three checks a day."

Draconian, and disruptive

Lone Rider- I rode on the long, dark road... before I danced under the lights.

one of my patients gets drug tested a lot for her sport, and her revelations of the actual mechanations of drug testing were eye opening. i assumed it was a case of go in there and fill this up. "oh no..." everything needs to be witnessed...

scotto wrote:one of my patients gets drug tested a lot for her sport, and her revelations of the actual mechanations of drug testing were eye opening. i assumed it was a case of go in there and fill this up. "oh no..." everything needs to be witnessed...

talk about stage fright !!

There is a well documented process that all athletes that expect to compete and have possibility of being tested should familarise themselves with.

They are all on the ASADA website, along with instructional videos showing how it all works. Features a few well known people, like Nicole Livingstone and Barry Hall.

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