Umbrella-Gate: Sarah Palin, "Most Americans hold their own umbrellas" (except for every other president)

Yesterday we reported on Umbrella-gate, in which Republicans have created another drama instead of focusing on the economy, environment, sequestration, our troops, Syria and lest we forget, the all important birth certificate. Ah, but that was soo last year.

Sarah Palin piled it in an attempt to ridicule the President (and because she’s not in the White House) over using an umbrella. And worse, a Marine held the umbrella for him. What next Obummer?

Here’s the half-term Governor of Alaska’s tweet:

Scandalous Hat TrickMr. President, when it rains it pours, but most Americans hold their own umbrellas. Today in… fb.me/zAZryzjj

Shit Sarah says on her Facebook wall, “Some of us warned America; we cautioned voters in 2008 that a community organizer with no executive experience and no sense of accountability would be a very poor choice for the nation’s top management position.”

Palin ends her rant with, “Speaking of coverage, glad you finally called in the Marines… shame it was just to hold your umbrella.”

Except Obama has honored our troops, many, many times.

Image: ABC

Speaking of ‘hat tricks’ Republicans are trying vigorously to deflect from this, According to a new government estimate, the budget deficit for the current year will come in well below what was projected just a few months ago, in fact, $200 billion below its February estimate, which makes this the smallest annual shortfall since 2008.

When Obama was first sworn in, Fox News got a scoop. It was devastating to his presidency. Obama used mustard on his hamburger, so for an entire week or more the network ran with that story, with Laura Ingraham saying, “What kind of a man puts mustard on his hamburger?!”

What kind of a party ignores the economy while focusing on an umbrella, birth certificate, mustard, etc. etc, etc?

NOT a marine, that’s for sure. she didn’t throw down on someone holding an umbrella for the “president”….only that it is against protocol for ANY male marine to hold an umbrella at any time.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Gabby-Parsons/1591884120 Gabby Parsons

Why the need to manufacture outrage over something like this. You hate the president, we get it.

http://twitter.com/collagingkriste kristen peterson

i don’t ‘hate’ the president. i hate his policies. i’m sure he’s a very nice person outside of politics.

sheababylv

Which policies do you hate, exactly? Do you hate that the president has come to the conclusion that denying marriage to people based on gender is discrimination? Do you hate his striving to give working people a chance by trying to give more people insurance? Do you hate his support for working women by a la Lilly Ledbetter? Do you hate his support for a woman’s right to choose to be between her and her doctor, and not be affected by what some other person’s religious beliefs are?

http://twitter.com/collagingkriste kristen peterson

let’s just say i disagree with him on everything based on his philosophy of a larger more “paternal” federal govt. and i am a proponent of giving more power to the states, and our communities. i genuinely believe this quote by Thomas Jefferson: “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have.”

we just fundamentally disagree. but that’s ok, that’s what America is all about!

http://twitter.com/TheNapkinDad Marty Coleman

But Kristen, why support politicians and talk show personalities who are not just disagreeing with policy, but are actively trying to destroy him and his presidency out of hatred and anger? You can’t seriously say Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Borts, et al, are simply disagreeing on policy. They hate Obama, and they hate him irrationally, well beyond any policy consideration. If you support them then you are hating of the President, simply put.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Gary-Jackson/1316589869 Gary Jackson

People “hate” Obama because he’s a radical Marxist THUG who is destroying the very fabric of society. Liberalism is a disease at best, but when used by criminals like Obama it reaches an evil rarely experienced by mankind.

Besides his culpability in the mass murders in Mexico, and murders of border agents Brian Terry and Jamie Zapata, Obama had his IRS thugs attack his political opponents. He’s used the DOJ to spy on reporters, and of course allowed 4 heroes to be murdered in Benghazi. Obama is the ONLY one who could have ordered their rescue to “stand down”. Then the liar blamed it all on a crappy You Tube video.

Obama’s IRS actually demanded, IN WRITING, that a pro-life group disclose the content of it’s members’ PRAYERS. Even Adolf Hitler would have thought that excessive.

Obama has a LONG history of this thuggish behavior. When he ran for Illinois Senate, Obama used every trick in the book to have his opponent, and one time mentor, disqualified, so he could run unopposed.

When running for US Senate Obama found a crooked judge who ordered the divorce records of Senator Jack Ryan and his actress wife Jeri Ryan unsealed. The records were sealed to protect the family’s child. Obama is just THAT evil.

Obama, along with adviser Pete Rouse built an entire thug army in Alaska to assault Governor Sarah Palin’s administration. These thugs included Phillip Munger, Jeane Devon, Shannyn Moore, Val Henning, Linda Biegel [the democrat party’s official blogger for Alaska] Jessie Griffin, Dennis Zaki [a stringer for CNN] and more. The assault on Palin was run by Pete Rouse out of the West Wing of the White House, or as he loves to brag: “Josh Lyman’s office.”

Obama is a filthy Chicago thug who is using the power of his office to destroy America.

Nixon was about to be impeached for doing EXACTLY what Obama has done with the IRS.

You wanna know why America “hates” Obama, well there ya go.

http://www.facebook.com/kvn123 Kevin Borchers

Too bad Jefferson never said that. Ever. It doesn’t even sound like him, if you knew anything about the man. But the fact is that “quote” doesn’t appear in any of his writings, or in summations about his writings. It might be that you like it, but stop attributing it to Jefferson.

Jeffrey Carvish

Maybe you should think back a few years when the government grew under GWB and has shrunk under President Obama. You don’t have to like his policies. But at least get your facts straight when you criticize the guy. He isn’t perfect. He has made mistakes. Point those mistakes out for your argument. But please don’t manufacture something that isn’t true.

http://www.facebook.com/diana.i.alvarez Diana Alvarez

ok we get it, you don’t like his policies…what has that to do with unbrellas?

http://www.facebook.com/mark.wandrey Mark Wandrey

Oh, but Obama was against gay marriage before he was for it.

I’m sure he’ll be parsing the definition of “is, is” soon too.

http://www.facebook.com/kdhoover Kevin D Hoover

Actually, when Obama was a state senator, he was pro same sex marriage. Further, he never said he was against same sex marriage. He said he believed marriage is between a man and a woman, which it still is, even in places where same sex marriage is legal. It’s just not solely between a man and a woman. Before he was a politician, he was an attorney. Pay attention to the legalese. Also, immediately after becoming President, he told the Justice Department to stop defending DOMA. This was before his official public position “evolved”. No need for parsing.

http://www.facebook.com/rachael.overweg Rachael Overweg

At least he learned to move up with the times. Progressive means moving forward and learning to adjust to changing times.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Gary-Jackson/1316589869 Gary Jackson

Progressive, as used to describe democrats, is anything BUT “forward” The proper word for democrats is REGRESSIVE. Liberals move societies backwards, not forward. Liberalism destroys civilization. It is the enemy of both Liberty and Freedom.

Obama personifies anti-Americanism that thrives among “progressives” and has since the vile ideology was created.

BanditBasheert

Yes .. yes she does.
Plus they pay her a quarter to spew on blogs. It’s how she makes her money.

DreadPirateStarbucks

According to reports, he’s actually not a nice person. But the reason these folks have a bee in their collective bonnet is because President Mompants is exposing, yet again, what a weaksauce beta male he is. And of course there is the study that just came out that strong, capable males are more likely to be right wingers. It’s a sore point among the effeminate liberals. Just pity their impotent neediness, it’s all we can do.

syd

why don’t you just own your bigotry? nothing worse than a squishy bigot who snipes from the cheap seats.

BanditBasheert

You don’t even lie very well. You need C4P Corporate Training and a manual.

http://www.facebook.com/mark.wandrey Mark Wandrey

Anytime tradition is insulted, it’s ‘manufactured outrage’ to a progressive. When their anointed one is being examined for impropriety, that is ‘just politics’. It’s rather like trying to corner a 4 year old with chocolate smeared all over their face and you are holding an empty cookie jar. “not me, momma!”

BanditBasheert

Seriously? UMBRELLAS? No really … THIS is what they are debating?

http://www.facebook.com/people/Gary-Jackson/1316589869 Gary Jackson

The radical left is concentrating their manufactured rage on the umbrella to take your feeble minds of what Palin actually said. Palin has been whipping Obama like a rented mule since 2008, but this is by far the whipping to end all whippings! Devastating commentary from Palin.

Again, the radical left MUST try to take your mind off the truth, by yelling “Oh look, a squirrel!” Of course, for low IQ democrats, that often works.

BanditBasheert

So why are YOU here? Go babble to the Bots.

RainOnMyParade

Marines can hold umbrellas… as long as it is solid black, and in the left hand…

http://twitter.com/collagingkriste kristen peterson

that is for FEMALE Marines. male ones are not allowed to in that uniform without approval of the commandant of the MC; google it.

http://twitter.com/Corydon76 Tilghman Lesher

So in your opinion, the President of the United States does not outrank the Commandant of the Marine Corps. Got it.

F M

Look, to me this is really small stuff compared to the serious scandals that are going on right now, but according to CNN, this is “extremely rare” for a Marine to do.

To me, if the president asks you to do it, you do it. But I think some people – rightly or wrongly – see this as part of a larger pattern with Obama. It’s not this one thing by itself. I get that.

http://www.facebook.com/robbie28403 Bobbie Walker

Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound making a big deal out of an umbrella? Have you ever seen the pictures of Marines having to salute the Bush’s dogs and other presidents pets? Before you run your mouth, I’m not ragging on Bush, Google it. They do have to do that. Why is the umbrella such an important issue to you? It’s not the umbrella, it’s because you’re a bigot and you know it.

http://www.facebook.com/KentuckyAvenger Anthony J. Wilson

actually the COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF is THE commander-in-chief…. period.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Papo-Casey/1398086239 Papo Casey

You really have no idea what you’re talking about. “Or all other orders which the president may direct.” Seriously stick to all the other manufactured crisis you and your delusional right wing base have chewed on for the last few months because this one is ridiculous and makes you sound incredibly stupid.

In Air Force JROTC back in high school, when in uniform we were required to wear our hats outdoors, but our Colonel could designate any area of his choosing an “no hat” area, where you’re not required to do so.

We wore our uniforms by the same regulations of active duty Air Force personnel. Commanding officers have the authority to authorize things that are outside of the normal dress protocol.

Also, as has already been correctly pointed out below, our President is the Commander in Chief of the armed forces of the United States of America. No man in our military outranks him, so of course if anyone below him holds the authority to authorize wearing articles that are not normally part of the uniform, then he also certainly holds that authority as well.

To put it most simply, the dress protocol is meant to outline how a soldier should wear his uniform in the execution of his day to day duties. There’s a big difference in a Marine carrying around an umbrella for himself on a rainy day around base, and being unable to properly salute as a result, and that Marine’s most ranking officer in the country asking him to hold an umbrella for him.

At best, this is a ridiculous misunderstanding based on poor research and a poor understanding of our nation’s military. At worst, it’s a deliberate misrepresentation to enrage people by convincing them that Obama is dishonoring our military by forcing them to do something they’re not supposed to. If a commanding officer gives them a lawful order and they follow it, they’re doing exactly what they’re supposed to.

F M

Are you sure about that? That’s not what I’m reading. Not saying you’re wrong – I’m just going by secondary sources (I assume you are as well, yes?):

Reportedly, the Marine Corp Manual, which is the bible for all soldiers serving, specially states that a soldier’s uniform dress code does not allow the carrying of an umbrella and “no officer or official shall issue instructions which conflict with, alter or amend any provision without the approval of the Commandant of the Marine Corps.”

From what I’m reading, **female** marines are allowed to hold an umbrella:

Regulation MCO P1020.34F of the Marine Corps Uniform Regulations chapter 3, rules out any use or carrying of an umbrella while a Marine is in uniform.

However, female Marines ‘may carry an all-black, plain standard or collapsible umbrella at their option during inclement weather with the service and dress uniforms. It will be carried in the left hand so that the hand salute can be properly rendered.’

That’s only partially true. This protocol can be overridden by the CMC or the POTUS, since the POTUS outranks the CMC.

http://www.facebook.com/KentuckyAvenger Anthony J. Wilson

yeah, palin ranks just below dog shit, so she’ll never have a marine hold anything for her…. OF THIS FACT I AM SUPREMELY CONFIDENT!!

http://www.facebook.com/michael.motta Michael J. Motta

“Given that the president is defined as the Commander in Chief ‘of the Army and Navy of the United States…’ by the Constitution and that fact that the Marines’ dress code protocol says ‘the Commandant or higher authority’ can authorize ‘articles that are not authorized for wear as a part of a regulation uniform,’ is the president considered a commander with this ability?

In Air Force JROTC back in high school, we were required to wear hats outdoors, but our Colonel could designate any area of his choosing an “no hat” area, where you’re not required to do so.

We wore our uniforms by the same regulations of active duty Air Force personnel. Commanding officers have the authority to authorize things that are outside of the normal dress protocol, plain and simple.

http://howtofaint.tumblr.com/ How to Faint

And what, exactly, happens if a Marine holds an umbrella? Is he required to murder ten children and eat their hearts to avenge his honor? Will he lose his retirement benefits? Does he explode in a fit of pique and leave behind a pile of bullshit? Why do you question a Marine doing President Obama a courtesy by holding an umbrella for him but not the moronic regulation that says it’s unacceptable for a male Marine to hold an umbrella but fine and dandy for a female Marine to do so? Please, enlighten me as to the thought process that goes behind being offended by this soi-disant scandal.

mmmjv

Her comment that “most Americans hold their own umbrellas” doesn’t mention Marines

Cassy_Again

I don’t believe it’s against protocol for a FEMALE marine to carry an umbrella. But, maybe women can’t be “real” marines to you?

Yep. I posted it, and it was removed in 10 seconds.
Her Facebook page is like an ad for stupid.
The followers are idiots-nothing but people quoting bumper-stickers and repeating what they’ve been sold on faux-news.

So, what you’re saying is that when someone resorts to ridiculing an opponent, it’s because they have nothing of substance to contribute? I seriously, totally agree with you. I think that was a low blow by Bandit that had absolutely nothing to do with the conversation at hand, nor does it provide value or offer solutions.

Just like Palin’s comments towards the President regarding umbrellas. I see little difference between his comment, and Palin’s tweet, both are just pointless trolling towards someone you don’t like.

http://twitter.com/collagingkriste kristen peterson

her last line was hardly a superficial dig referencing cosmetics. If you read the entire post, you would realize it was an analogy referencing the stand-down orders in Benghazi in addition to exposing his obvious lack of knowledge of military protocol.

Oh really? Besides you WHO is debating this? If you want to say that, it’s fine. Go find someone to debate something that has been proven to be untrue.

http://www.facebook.com/mark.wandrey Mark Wandrey

Fingers in ears, “NYA, NYA, NYA!”

BanditBasheert

There were NO stand down orders.
Again, learn to read and process.
Talking points do not work. They never have and they never will. You have said the same thing word for word on multiple blogs today.
That is trolling.
It has NO effect.
Still waiting for you to prove those “stand down” orders or are you totally focused on Umbrellagate?

Then maybe she should follow the old adage “Best to keep your mouth shut, and let people think you may be stupid, than to open it and remove all doubt.”

All she’s done is highlighted her own obvious lack of knowledge concerning military protocol. As for “stand-down orders,” that’s a sack of bullshit.

BanditBasheert

You didn’t state a fact. You spewed a troll talking point – on multiple blogs. And your hair is still toast.

Grow up …

mrsgunka

You are one clever gal! Pick a comment and spread it everywhere! Were you assigned this statement today? See they let you out to the day room today. Last time I read this it was “in your collective peas brains.” Progress!

BanditBasheert

She has to earn her quarter somehow – especially since TwoToneTodd kicked her out of his stable.

uncle jizzy

tried to post the pic, deleted within 2 minutes. Now I cant even post on her page

Not GOP

They ban opposing viewpoints on her page really quickly.

BanditBasheert

They also ban the truth. They all know they are funding her lifestyle – but there’s only 4 or 5 of them left, using multiple ID’s so they really don’t matter in the grand scheme of things.

“Nonetheless, we called our older brother, Eric Steinberg, to ask if there could possibly be anything to the nonsense M. Joseph Sheppard and the entire Internet was vomiting all over the place, before it could get on our shoes.

He started yelling. A lot. “I GUARANTEE YOU!” he yelled, “IF THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF GIVES YOU A LAWFUL ORDER YOU FOLLOW THE MOTHERFUCKING LAWFUL ORDER. IF THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF WANTS AN UMBRELLA YOU BETTER BELIEVE A WHOLE FUCKING GRIP OF JARHEARDS ARE GONNA BEHIGH-STEPPING TO BRING HIM A MOTHERFUCKING UMBRELLA!”

And then he warmed up. “IN FACT! THE REAL FUCKING SCANDAL IS THAT THE CHAIRMAN OF THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF WASN’T THE ONE HOLDING IT. ‘YOU! CHAIRMAN OF THE JOINT CHIEFS! HOLD MY MOTHERFUCKING UMBRELLA!’”

Bunch of useless krap on both sides. palin’s just a goper dumbass who “charmed” her way to a governorship to which she couldn’t do justice. Let’s not waste OUR psychic energies on HER stupid jabs.

F M

I don’t think this is a huge deal, but there are a couple of fundamental differences in the examples cited here.

1) President Obama called a Marine over to hold the umbrella for him. In the other cases, it appears that the individuals holding the umbrellas did so of their own accord.

2) It was a Marine in president Obama’s case. Reportedly, the Marine Corp Manual, which is the bible for all soldiers serving, specially states that a soldier’s uniform dress code does not allow the carrying of an umbrella and “no officer or official shall issue instructions which conflict with, alter or amend any provision without the approval of the Commandant of the Marine Corps.”

To me, this significance of this incidence is only that it further entrenches the perception that Obama is clueless and tone-deaf when it comes to the military – that it’s all about him. Another example that comes to mind is when he couldn’t even pronounce the word “corpsman” correctly.

Yeah, I know you work hard to keep loving this President and giving him a “fair and balanced”, appraisal, don’t you? If being concerned as to which people, (and which people it should be) holding umbrella’s for the President of the United States, AND for his guest, the Prime Minister of Jordan, during a slight shower on the White House lawn, during a press conference, THIS is what is most important to you? I think your priorities are screwed up. And, of course, Sarah Palin held her own umbrella, right? You DID look at that picture, right? And you mock the way Obama said corpsman? Have you read many of Sarah Palin’s mis-spelled tweets and malapropisms? Have you ever heard that woman speak and mangle words?
As a former Marine, if I were to have the honor to hold an umbrella for a President of the USA, it would be a very great honor, sir.
So… Get over your blatant bigotry, and address some real issues.

F M

You write, “THIS is what is most important to you? I think your priorities are screwed up.”

Um….why is it the people with the most venom here seem to be the least able to read? I wrote that I didn’t think this was a big deal at all. And I don’t. If someone is making a big deal about it (including Sarah Palin), then I think it’s silly (especially compared to the actual, serious scandals going on right now). I just pointed out some distinctions I noticed between the cases cited in the article and what happened with President Obama.

I appreciate your former service to the country, David (assuming you’re telling the truth), but really need to read more carefully before spouting off.

BanditBasheert

Obsessed with Black man asking white Marine to hold umbrella in the rain. Really? It just “rubs some people the wrong way”.

F M

Bandit – I don’t think anyone has written more comments here than you. So you might want to look in the mirror on that “obsession” charge. There’s an old French saying – the man who looks behind every door he walks through has probably stood there himself. The only one I see obsessed with race here is you.

You obviously like to demagogue and get people riled up (great quality, btw). But the reaction from some conservatives couldn’t emanate from the much more simple fact that (rightly or wrongly) conservatives generally view liberals as having a lack of respect for the military? That really didn’t even enter your mind? Come on. If it didn’t then you need to get out of your tight little circle of group-think friends and actually get to know people who don’t already agree with you.

http://www.facebook.com/robbie28403 Bobbie Walker

Right there with you David!! And, as for Palin, they are going to have to come up with yet another edition of Webster’s Dictionary just so they can add some of the words she has come up with!

F M

You’re not going to get an argument from me on Sarah Palin. LOL

mrsgunka

Perhaps if you bothered to check this out, he asked for an umbrella for his guest as he doubted he another dry set of clothes handy. And if you read the rules, the Commander in Chief can request anything from a Marine or any other serviceman. The Marine was not using the umbrella for himself. Did you miss the picture of President Obama campaigning in the rain and was soaked to his skin? Did you see Sarah at the Derby luncheon wearing someone else’s over-sized raincoat and someone holding an umbrella over her and the lady holding the lawn party? Why aren’t you bitching about Congress doing something about jobs, infrastructure, health care for the poor, SS, Medicare, taking care of the poor instead of about Benghazi, IRS, who holds umbrelllas and immigration? Turn off that damn FOX and fact check before opening your stupid mouth!

F M

You might want to read a little more carefully, Mrsgunka, or get that gunka out of your eyes to see more clearly. I watched the video before commenting. I read some more about it before commenting as well. And I said I didn’t think it was a big deal at all. But based on this article and the pictures it offered, there is a difference between what President Obama did and what is depicted of Palin and Reagan. If that gets you apoplectic like Bandit above, then I hope you have effective blood pressure medication. LOL

WHO GIVES A FUCK!?!?! is this shit at all important…. at FUCKING ALL!?!? No …. you just spent god knows how many paragraphs and time bitching about a fucking umbrella being held…. meanwhile this country has actual serious fucking issue we could be dealing with and not this dumb shit.

F M

So, you felt it was important enough to spend the time to read through all the comments I and others made on a topic you say isn’t important at all and then important enough to actually vent on some guy you don’t even know all because you felt that what he wrote about wasn’t important enough.

Hello? LOL Do you have any sense of irony and understanding of hypocrisy at all?

And I said I didn’t think it was a big deal at all – that it was silly to make a big deal about it. But people are writing about the topic and I thought it was interesting on some level. If you don’t like it, move on. Ignore it. Problem solved, Neil. Or, considering your desire to control people, maybe you should look into working for the IRS. They’re big on that sort of thing these days.

F M

You really don’t read very well, Neil. You also have a very limited, although “colorful”, vocabulary. Also think about the irony of your complaint. Twice now you’ve complained about people giving so much time to the umbrella incident. But in so doing, you’ve read through a whole bunch of comments on it and then felt compelled to comment yourself. If it’s so unimportant, then why not just ignore it and move on?

You also missed that I’ve repeatedly stated that I think people are making much too much about the incident. I’m mostly trying to help people here who obviously don’t understand the negative reaction from some quarters to understand it better. Apparently you don’t get that.

BanditBasheert

Oh look, rock just met hard place!
How flaming stupid ARE you?
Ronnie Raygun does it and it’s ok? Obama does it and it’s treason?

BTW who says the military did NOT approve this? You?

F M

Of the pictures provided in the article, none show a marine holding an umbrella for President Reagan. And I’m just passing along what the Marine Corps manual reportedly says. I’m not sure why that gets you apoplectic. Again, I said I didn’t think it was a big deal at all. Just pointing out some distinctions I noticed between the cases cited in the article and what happened with President Obama.

I think your interpretation says far more about you than it does those who said anything about the umbrella.

Let’s try this one on for size: When George W. Bush (a white man) used drones to attack from remote locations, he was ripped by liberals. When Obama (a black man) not only does the same thing but does far more of it than Bush ever did, he gets a pass from liberals. There is your reason for all the pout rage against Bush. Liberals are anti-white racists.

Yep. Ridiculous. As was your interpretation of the umbrella “incident.” Look, I’m sure there are some anti-black and anti-white racists who were motivated to take such positions. But I’m not buying that it was anywhere near most, let alone all.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1260245022 Jeni Braeger

LOL@ Umbrella-gate. Wow we have to get these images out there so people who can’t, or won’t, educate themselves can begin to see how fraudulent the parental party truly is!!

The umbrella aspect of the above story is all non-sense … but, there is something far more important there that I haven’t seen mentioned in the many angry (and sometimes profane) posts below …
How is a $642 BILLION budget deficit “good news”?!? Only an economic idiot would consider that a win … maybe a smaller defeat! How about doing what every municipality, county, and State do in America … have a balanced budget EVERY YEAR? Having served in municipal government, a “budget shortfall” is NOT an option … both legally, and in my opinion, ethically.

G J

This is exactly what I was going to post. Okay, so the deficit is smaller than what we thought it was going to be… but it’s still a deficit. And the smallest since 2008. All that means is that every single previous year he’s been president, we’ve had a larger deficit.

It’s like saying “Awesome! They aren’t boning it up quite as completely as the last five years.” without the sarcasm that would be inherent if I said it.

http://www.facebook.com/mark.wandrey Mark Wandrey

Show me how many decorated marines they used as umbrella racks?

http://www.facebook.com/mark.wandrey Mark Wandrey

Said the guy hiding behind a screen name…

BanditBasheert

If they don’t like you, you are toast .. consider it the equivalent of a Congressional Medal of Honor.

I still don’t think this is any big deal, but as the subject is “out there” – are those Marines holding the umbrellas (as it was in the case of President Obama)?

Reportedly, the Marine Corp Manual specially states that a soldier’s uniform dress code does not allow the carrying of an umbrella and “no officer or official shall issue instructions which conflict with, alter or amend any provision without the approval of the Commandant of the Marine Corps.”

From what I’m reading, **female** marines are allowed to hold an umbrella:

Regulation MCO P1020.34F of the Marine Corps Uniform Regulations chapter 3, rules out any use or carrying of an umbrella while a Marine is in uniform.

However, female Marines ‘may carry an all-black, plain standard or collapsible umbrella at their option during inclement weather with the service and dress uniforms. It will be carried in the left hand so that the hand salute can be properly rendered.’

I don’t know if there is such a rule for all the other branches of the military, or if this is specific to the Marines. According to CNN, this is “extremely rare” for a Marine.

Do you know that Pres Obama asked the Marine to do this? Or did one of the President’s Staff make the request? Or perhaps the Secret Service? Or was it done because his guest didn’t have an extra change of clothes and it was raining?

There is a deep and undoubtedly highly political secret involved as to WHO asked for the umbrella.

http://comgen.blogspot.com/ ComGen

Yes, the President did ask for them [ see attached clip ] and of the Marines to provide said service However,

re-post: The same umbrella rules hold true for the Army, Navy and Air Force, all service members. Capt. Eric Flanagan, a Marines spokesman. A request [ umbrella ] from the president to a Marine who serves at the White House, however, would be an “extenuating circumstance,”. Title 10 of the U.S. Code, states that members of the Marine Corps shall “perform such other duties as the President may direct.”. Another commenter provided this link [ eekkkkk ! I know ] http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/05/17/was-it-against-uniform-protocol-for-the-marine-to-hold-obamas-umbrella/

Thanks for the info ComGen. Like I said, I think it makes sense that a soldier of any branch of the armed services should obey a request by the commander in chief. But it’s a different question whether it was really a good call for the President to press him into service on such a thing when there were clearly other non-military personnel around who could have handled it. Not a huge deal at all, but I can see why some might find it less than optimal.

http://comgen.blogspot.com/ ComGen

Had he not requested an umbrella for his guest [ which he clearly says he had spare suite but his guest might not ], say, he was golfing alone, campaigning, or maybe on vacation. I could see where some might find it semi-abusive, though per U.S. code he would have the right. But he was hosting an official event and it showed respect for the White House guest. Presidents before him have done the same or similar. Something I ran across elsewhere, foreign commenter: it showed respect, power and compassion for his guest while not being overly bold.

F M

Fair enough. Point taken and I genuinely appreciate your reasoned, thoughtful answers. But I still wonder why he didn’t just ask one of the non-military personnel to do it. There were plenty of them around. It just strikes me a *little* bit like the queen asking a guard at Buckingham palace to pick something up for her and a guest that fell on the ground when she knows that part of their discipline/code is remaining perfectly still. Should he comply? Absolutely. Does she have that right to ask him? Sure. But is it really the best thing to do? Were I the President, I guess what I’m saying is that I wouldn’t have done what President Obama did because of my great respect for the Marines. It just wouldn’t even have entered my mind. Again, not a huge deal at all, imo. But I think I do understand at least somewhat why some people reacted as they did.

http://www.facebook.com/robbie28403 Bobbie Walker

thank you for posting this. I knew I had seen an umbrella over their heads at one time or another. The haters will say though, it’s not the Marines, it’s the Army. But one thing they can’t deny, it’s an UMBRELLA!!!! roflmao!!!

F M

Right, which definitely makes Palin’s point stupid. But the others I have read haven’t just pointed out that it was an umbrella. I’d like to know if all the branches of the military have the rule about not holding an umbrella. If they don’t, then it would have been better for the president to ask anyone else at the conference to do it for him. I have to imagine that there had to have been many others available.

http://comgen.blogspot.com/ ComGen

The same umbrella rules hold true for the Army, Navy and Air Force, all service members.

Capt. Eric Flanagan, a Marines spokesman. A request [ umbrella ] from the president to a Marine who serves at the White House, however, would be an “extenuating circumstance,”. Title 10 of the U.S. Code, states that members of the Marine Corps shall “perform such other duties as the President may direct.”

http://FreakoutNation.com Anomaly 100

FreakOutNation’s sneaky admin added it to the post with credit to you. Thanks so much.

lionsrule

What event was this? Any idea? People here are correct the same rules apply to the Army as they do to the Marines.

http://comgen.blogspot.com/ ComGen

Going by gathering / age of the Presidents, weather and quick search. I believe this is the Clinton Presidential library opening 2004. Not positive though. Attached video clip [ Clinton speech only ] after Clinton is introduced he puts his umbrella away, an umbrella appears over his head, looks like military arm to the right [ his left ]. I skimmed the video never caught full view of said person with umbrella though. Kind of busy tonight, sorry!. Yesterday I was sent photo of Jun 17 1975 Lt. Col. Robert Blake holding an umbrella over President Ford head. I have not validated it as of yet [ busy ] but will post it here.

All this proves is that Sarah Palin is still a moron – once a moron, always a moron.

Carol Ott

Except for Presidents and those who can only dream of being President.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=740060621 Eric Smiles

Mine has been up for 2 minutes so far… The comments on her page are priceless! Aand down it went..

BanditBasheert

Toleration of dissent or disagreement is NOT permitted on PalinPantySniffer’s page. Freedom of Speech just isn’t tolerated by the Bots.

mike

Yeah just like that time all the republican presidents left four men to die in Benghazi???.oops yes your right this shit is a waste of time….just like they used the IRS to intimidate political opponents???

BanditBasheert

No actually during the Bush Administration there were 15 attacks on Consulates and Embassies and over 50 people were killed.

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Waiting for the Congressional Investigative Report….

F M

I’m not sure that your figures are correct, they don’t harmonize with the figures given by the liberal site “media matters”.

But regardless, how many of those attacks on Embassies under the Bush administration involved a situation where:

1) The consulate repeatedly asked for more help and security during the months leading up to the attack and were repeatedly refused?

2) The diplomatic personnel from other countries were pulled out because the danger was so high, but we insisted on keeping ours there.

3) The people being attacked received no military aid once the attack began, although they begged for help.

4) After the attack, the government was dishonest about the genesis of it – falsely blaming it on a spontaneous mob.

JMann

1) The Republicans denied funds for that.
2) It turns out that the Embassy was a CIA front so that’s why it stayed there.
3) Um, the closest military aid was in Italy. Fourteen hours away. How could they help? Even the past Secretary of Defense said this admin did the correct thing.
4) How are they supposed to know – right away – what the genesis of it was? Of course, everybody thought it would be the video because that’s what most of the protests around the world at the other embassies were about.

Wow you believe any crap that Breitbart fanboys spew huh? And all those poor TeaParty groups couldn’t funnel dark cash into politics while maintaining tax exempt status .. boo-fucking-hoo … they can’t attack his foreign policy so they make crap up, they cant attack his domestic policy so they make crap up … morons like you eat this shit up because it gives you an out for hating on the darkie with the funny name… You and your low info ilk are ruining this country .. please move to Iran or some other place that fits your moral belief system better…

F M

Neil, you know that even President Obama has called what the IRS did “outrageous”, right?

I hate mustard, absolutely hate it but until a few days ago I did not know it made me a member of the Tea Party. Damn, now I have to re-evaluate my entire life and personal philosophy. Crap.

http://comgen.blogspot.com/ ComGen

I think it has to do with the color.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Gary-Jackson/1316589869 Gary Jackson

Gay people don’t hate mustard. All the gays I know eat mustard on their burgers. It would be uncivilized not to.

Guest

FOX, lmao..I saw their remarks about mustard today on MSNBC I . Aidan may be POTUS one day! Cause he loves him any kind of mustard………….Gee’suz

http://twitter.com/lunaa1960 LuAnn Stout

I’m not a a FOX watcher..Msnbc, showed the clips about the mustard on is burger. LMAO. “What man puts mustard on his “cheeseburger”, is one of the more ignorrant comments that were made that I heard.. I guess that could possibly ruin all chances of my g’son being POTUS one day..’cause he loves his mustard on everything…gee’zus

http://www.facebook.com/people/Gary-Jackson/1316589869 Gary Jackson

What else WOULD you put on a hamburger but mustard? I know Yankees put mayonnaise on burgers, but people up there are very uncivilized anyway.

Well we had a surplus ..and the… what happened to it again? Oh Yeah W Bush and the economic policies of deregulation and top down trickle down voodoo economics BS … and now people bitch that the recovery is taking too long so we should do the same fuck ups as the past? You get ass raped as hard as the country did during those 8 years it takes some time to heal…

F M

I think there was plenty of blame to go around on that score, Neil. Just for a little balance –

OMG the President got special treatment .. that has NEVER EVER happened before .. nope not never. Oh, they were all white and had normal names .. okay that makes more sense now.

F M

It’s strange how some people reflexively think of race here and then project that thought onto others they don’t even know. My first thought when I read this was that it was a matter of conservatives seeing Obama as just another liberal who doesn’t respect the military. Whether you agree with conservatives on that judgment (about liberals not respecting the military) is irrelevant. It’s a fact that this is how conservatives generally see liberals. As such, I think it’s the most logical reason why some conservatives reacted to the over-blown “umbrella incident”, not because Obama is black. So why inject race into it? That only undermines cases were race really and demonstrably *is* the issue. It’s like the boy who cried wolf. We shouldn’t want people to turn a deaf ear to actual cases of racism because people abuse the charge (think Al Sharpton and Tawana Brawley: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/time_to_pay_up_tawana_VNfKyp8kwALfSZZE4DdAQI )

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1608438403 Debbie Dunston

It seems that everything regarding our President comes down to race. It is obvious by the Republicans actions, comments and jokes that are always strewn about him. It is sick.

Think Sarah Palin…..she called him Sambo when he won the primary. She hates him with a passion, that’s why she will never be able to get over the fact that he is in the White House and she is not.

F M

Debbie, thanks for your comment. But have you read the Snopes.com report on the alleged “Sambo” comment by Palin? According to them, that report came from one unverified source. They admit that it can’t even be determined whether it’s a legitimate quote or not.

Listen, every day I see liberals and conservatives pass around bogus (or very dubious) information that makes the other side look much worse than they are. I call both sides out on it because it only makes it harder to have an honest discussion. We’ve got to be careful not to accept something to easily just because it fits our preconceptions (which is true on the right and one the left). There are people who get off on spreading false information just to further an agenda or even just to piss people off. THAT is what is sick, IMO.

And I very much disagree that everything the President does comes down to race. Look, most of my friends are conservatives – although I also have a lot of liberal friends (we love to argue about politics) and no one I know talks about race in his regard except a couple of my liberal friends. Are there some racist bigots who are conservative who hate Obama just because he’s black and the president? I’m sure there are. But I just don’t buy that this is the reason why most conservatives dislike him. I could give you a whole bunch of reasons from a conservative point of view that have absolutely *nothing* to do with race.

Peace.

Barbie Culpepper

I would take a bet that if queen Sarah went under hypnosis it would be about race.

F M

Anything is possible. But it’s wrong to impute the worst motives to another human being based on a hunch or suspicion – especially in public. If we all did that to one another, the world would be an even worse, more intensely divided mess than it is.

m15r

Yeah, like Sarah Palin actually uses semicolons when she writes.

http://twitter.com/MewMew34 Mew Mew

Wait, did somebody really bitch because Obama put mustard on a hamburger? Please for the love of all that is still good in this world, tell me that’s not true. I knew Republicans were stupid, but they can’t possibly be THAT stupid.

dizlz

Yes, she was baffled that a man wouldn’t put ketchup on that burger!! I think what really tied their undies in a know was his asking for “a spicy mustard. Maybe a little Poupon?” That alone gave them a running start on their burger babble. Imagine that, trying to have one’s burger one’s way. Horrors.

JMann

Wait – what’s wrong with mustard on burgers? Krystals even come that way. And I believe the small Mcdonald’s hamburgers.

DMasters

In Texas Whataburgers only come with mustard unless you ask for something else. They will give you ketchup or mayo, but they’re gonna look at you funny. Everyone knows ketchup is for fries!

JMann

Hm. I worked at a Florida WB for many years when I was young. Don’t know if we used mustard or mayonnaise. I think we used mayo, though. Might be wrong. Actually, I think it was mustard.

http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Kempton/100001461703058 David Kempton

The insanity of the right is fully on display here. If you so-called “Americans” would wake the fuck up and realize that that Fox talking no-head is really just a shill for corporate greed, maybe we could throw these fools and traitors under the bus.

Until you WAKE UP and see the theft for what it is, we all are subject to rule by insanity.

li

The flaged me too LOL! talk about freedom of speech.

JMann

You have no idea what Freedom of Speech means.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1187127934 Sheila Simmons

Do you really believe this is just about an umbrella?

F M

The IRS Commissioner admitted that liberal groups were not targeted:

Miller: “We collected, to be blunt, more than Tea Party cases…”

Paul Ryan: “There were no progressive or organizing buzzwords that were used for targeting, correct?”

“We’re not political,’’ said one determinations staffer in khakis as he left work late Tuesday afternoon. “We people on the local level are doing what we are supposed to do. .?.?. That’s why there are so many people here who are flustered. Everything comes from the top. We don’t have any authority to make those decisions without someone signing off on them. There has to be a directive.”

1) You missed the point – the Benghazi situation was fundamentally different than the attacks under Bush. So, of course it’s being treated differently.

2) Your claim about Republicans denying funds for more security is a canard that has been repeatedly debunked. The State Dept. made clear that the decision to lower security in Benghazi had nothing to do with a lack of funding.

Charlene Lamb, a deputy assistant secretary of state for diplomatic security, was asked by congress, “Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?”

3) I’ve read reports that the CIA was using the consulate – but again – the point in mentioning this was to bring out differences between the attacks under Bush and the Benghazi attack – explaining why it has come under more scrutiny. Regardless, it was not ONLY a CIA front. It was still being used by the State Dept and they repeatedly refused to beef up security, even when it was requested. They *knew* it was very dangerous – everyone was pulling out.

4) Reportedly, two drones were filming the action live and at least one may have been armed. There was reportedly also an AC-130 gunship nearby and Woods and Doherty were painting targets hoping for a strike – although this is disputed.

5) Who said anything about “right away” in regard to the genesis? There seems to be plenty of evidence that they knew it wasn’t a spontaneous demonstration because of a video even while they were blaming it on the video later in public. It seems plain enough why they did this – because it completely undercut the image the President was trying to paint of his efforts against Al Qaeda and terrorism.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Gary-Jackson/1316589869 Gary Jackson

I notice you didn’t bother to actually print the SUBSTANCE of what Palin had to say about criminal bastard Obama. Nor did you remind readers Palin once stood in a driving snow storm in Wisconsin [with no umbrella] surrounded by violent union thugs, and gave a powerful speech in defense of Liberty and Freedom.

I guess like most liberals, you have to obfuscate the truth in order to keep the low/no information democrat voters on the reservation.

Here’s what Palin actually said:

By Sarah Palin

Mr. President, when it rains it pours, but most Americans hold their
own umbrellas. Today in the Rose Garden you dismissed the idea of a
Special Counsel to investigate the IRS scandal. With that, your galling
political hubris shined bright in the midst of today’s dark clouds.

Mr. President, how can we trust your Justice Department to conduct an
independent investigation when there is a systemic violation of the
Hatch Act throughout your administration?

Surely you are aware that the Hatch Act prevents certain federal
employees from engaging in political activity. Specifically, it’s
illegal for these federal employees to engage in action in support of or
in opposition to a political party, a candidate for partisan political
office, or a partisan political group.

Yet that is exactly what’s happened within the IRS, the Justice
Department, and in the Benghazi cover-up. This scandalous hat trick is
on your watch. It is not believable that you knew nothing about Obama
administration actions in dealing with these scandals. And in regards to
Benghazi, when you should have taken appropriate action to save
American lives – for instance by calling in the Marines – you were AWOL.

Just weeks before the election your team scrubbed the Benghazi
talking points in 12 different versions, lied to the American people
about some YouTube video being to blame for the deaths of brave
Americans who put our country first, and you prove Michael Barone right
when he writes, “What actually happened in Benghazi was out of sync with the Obama campaign line.” That’s why you all did what you did. Pure raw politics were at play during a horrific time of loss.

For more evidence of Hatch Act violations right under your nose, simply consider DOJ’s “massive and unprecedented intrusion” into the free press. Do you think they picked up some political talk when tapping the phones in the House press gallery?

Your team is out of control. Those who cannot remember the past and
learn from it are doomed to repeat it, and that is exactly what is
happening. Look back exactly 40 years ago this week and apply that
disheartening chapter of American history to the team you’ve chosen and
lead today.

Some of us warned America; we cautioned voters in 2008 that a
community organizer with no executive experience and no sense of
accountability would be a very poor choice for the nation’s top
management position.

Mr. President, you said today that you have “complete confidence”
in the Attorney General. America doesn’t. Eric Holder needs to appoint
an unbiased Special Counsel to investigate the illegal political action
of this administration. And then Eric Holder needs to resign.

Most Americans see ominous dark clouds looming beyond the White House
Rose Garden, Mr. President. They’ll roll away only when light is shined
on the Obama administration’s antics, and America will only recover
when you cease avoiding responsibility in this mission of yours to
fundamentally transform America. For that to happen, the press had
better learn from their experiences of being duped and provide a
deserving public fairer, more intelligent coverage.

Speaking of coverage, glad you finally called in the Marines… shame it was just to hold your umbrella.

BTW, Obama’s “Organizing For America” is also a 501 (c) group, like the Tea Parties, and is MOST DEFINITELY engaged in illegal political behavior. They operate Obama’s official Twitter account that is 100% political.

It isn’t a matter of someone holding the umbrella, it is a matter of using military personnel to hold the umbrella

PCG

You mean like both Bushes, Reagan, Ford, and Nixon did?

Why aren’t you mortally offended about that?

Pete from Anchorage

what a wingnut! In Sarah Palin’s world, any visiting prime minister from a foreign country should hold his own umbrella–and then we see a picture of the Drama Queen’s umbrella being held for her. What’s next–Her Royal Highness will rant about how the Obama’s should be doing the dishes themselves after all the State Dinners. No wonder everyone gives her a royal title: the Queen of all Hypocrites or the Queen of Mean are the two most commonly given. Seems like Sister Sarah is still jealous of the Obamas and just can’t stop carrying a grudge against John McCain’s staff for telling the truth about her self centered, low intelligence behavior on the campaign trail. Somehow I think that the booing she received at both events this weekend didn’t even phase her–she is just as unpopular as Casey Anthony and Julia Arias.

Pete from Anchorage

jodi–not Julia Arias

F M

You don’t understand what it means to “target” JMann. To target is basically the same a profiling. If a cop pulls over a man who just happens to be black, that’s not targeting or profiling. If he pulls him over precisely because he’s black, then that is targeting and/or profiling. Conservative groups like the Tea Party were singled out – they were expressly *targeted* precisely because of their identity. That’s the difference. And that’s why the head of the IRS admitted on the record what he admitted.

JMann

No, they weren’t. Liberal groups were given the same treatment too. AND three where denied while all the Tea Party ones were accepted. Also, turns out the Repubs knew about it the whole time. But you must have been in a coma this past week – huh?

F M

Yes, really. See my comment above. The head of the IRS admitted it. End of story.

F M

1) Published today at the Washington Post:

Quote: “Here’s what everyone agrees on: The Determinations Unit based out of the Cincinnati IRS targeted 501(c)(4) applications that used tea party-related terms for extra scrutiny. Whether the intent was benign, as the IRS swears, or rogue agents were carrying out a political vendetta, the effect was to politicize the IRS’s filtering process. That’s a huge problem.”

2) Paul Ryan to IRS head Steven Miller: “There were no progressive or organizing buzzwords that were used for targeting, correct?”

Head of the IRS, Steven Miller: “That’s correct.”

I’m not sure if you’re being purposely obtuse or you really can’t understand this. When the head of the IRS admits on the record that progressives were not targeted like conservatives were, then it’s game over. You’re wrong.

JMann

Whatever, dude, I suggest you do more research.

F M

In other words, you’ve got nothing to disprove the information I presented. I’ll make sure to give your comment all the consideration it deserves, dude.