Collateral Damage

While Hank reads much of these bios within the show, it's worth checking out the full bios of both Ronald and Hattie Jackson (Click on each name to read more about their backgrounds).

From civil rights to poverty to education to black empowerment, the Jackson's have spent their lives fighting for those in need.

As Hank likes to say, these are, undoubtedly, two of St Louis' Finest.

Here's a glance at how the conversation went:

Chapter 1. Background and inspiration for a lifetime of dedicated and disciplined activism and work. (0:00-11:30)

Chapter 2. A power-couple is formed. (11:30-16:45)

Chapter 3. Understanding the difference between internal and external control. If you're poor, the world seems to control you. With enough socioeconomic capital, you can have the confidence that comes from your own, internal control of yourself and the world around you. (16:45-24:00)

Chapter 4. Convincing children that they could. "I want excellence [from students] because that's how I made it out of poverty." (24:00-28:00)

Chapter 5. "Being poor is hard as hell," explains Ronald. "Unpredictability in life has a powerful influence on people." (28:00-32:30)