Not very, about 6", maybe a bit bigger. They've been totally neglected - I just couldn't bear to chuck them away. They certainly live up to the "cast iron" plant name - they've been living off drips in the polytunnel. I'll nurture them a little for a week or two and then send them over, if you're interested.

Maggie

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I wouldn't mind an Aspidistra if there's enough. It's all change here again, but I now have a conservatory back and apart from 4 tomato plants, it's going to be purely flowers and non-edible plants.Thanks for the offer of your Oddo, DnD, that would be great, but if you still have seed that would do. Still plenty of time to start off seed for fruit later in the year.

Green Aura wrote: Sounds like silvery fir are the ones for us - if only we could get them to fruit!

You may be interested GA, out of all the plants that I have, Stupice is the ONLY one to have any sizeable fruit so far. Plus that one is in my small aluminium greenhouse.The plants in the conservatory are 2 - 3 times taller but only have pea sized fruit and the ones in the polytunnels, well some have yet to flower, let alone fruit.I did note that Stupice goes from flower to ripe fruit a lot faster than any other tomato I've grown.