agents are bad for the game period....i just dont see how this changes things one way or the other....

you are right JP it probably doesn't.....influenced or not Cruz has decided what he wants... he my well be asking to much he may end up screwing himself......time will tell....don't mean to bring things down but its starting to get crazy

04-04-2013, 01:12 PM

Morehead State

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Originally Posted by JPizzack

agents are bad for the game period....i just dont see how this changes things one way or the other....

How are agents bad for the game? I don't get this at all. Is it your view that players shouldn't have representation?

04-04-2013, 01:19 PM

dezzzR

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Originally Posted by Morehead State

How are agents bad for the game? I don't get this at all. Is it your view that players shouldn't have representation?

I think people like Jayz and other entrepreneurs like him are bad for the game.

04-04-2013, 01:28 PM

dezzzR

Cruz doesnt deserve anything over 8 a year imo

04-04-2013, 01:50 PM

Rudy

How is he only a system player? Riddle me that.

04-04-2013, 01:51 PM

JPizzack

ugh thats such a high number!!! paying "skill" ppositions is the woooorst!!

04-04-2013, 01:53 PM

JPizzack

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Originally Posted by Rudyy

How is he only a system player? Riddle me that.

its the "product of the environment" argument.

it's proven true with a team run by Eli Manning. we do it with TEs every year....and the Smith to Cruz transition speaks for itself. Obviously Cruz is a great athlete. that doesnt mean he'd be great in Oakland, or in Jacksonville, etc...

04-04-2013, 01:57 PM

Rudy

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Originally Posted by JPizzack

its the "product of the environment" argument.

it's proven true with a team run by Eli Manning. we do it with TEs every year....and the Smith to Cruz transition speaks for itself. Obviously Cruz is a great athlete. that doesnt mean he'd be great in Oakland, or in Jacksonville, etc...

But I feel as if people say that to belittle what Cruz has done...and in dezz's case, I can make that assumption.

04-04-2013, 02:00 PM

dezzzR

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Originally Posted by Rudyy

How is he only a system player? Riddle me that.

Cruz is like a better version of steve smith. Faster, more athletic, bigger. The reason why they are so successful is because they are always running options. They dont know what theyre running until they read the defense or Eli checks them.

I wouldnt call him a system player because I think he can have success elsewhere unlike smith, but Cruz certainly wouldnt put up the numbers hes putting up here unless a top 5 qbs throwing to him.