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WESH, OS, The Lake Mary PD, WFTV, all agree that George Zimmerman had no gun.

But Mark O’Mara says he DID HAVE A GUN ON HIS PERSON and admits that he had his hand on it ‘to keep it from moving, and that his wife Shellie, only knew it was there on his person, because she knew he always carries a gun on on him.

According to Mark O’Mara. So O’Mara lied in his news conference after talking to his client earlier in the day.

George Zimmerman is untouchable and now he’s publicly set up the story, his ‘proof’ that his wife is a liar and even this monring’s WFTV ;morning report, has not corrected the ‘no gun’ position.

Judge Nelson and Angela Corey should feel real good about themselves right now for letting that crazy ass cracker go free.

He is going to explode and another innocent person is going to get hurt again.

He must cringe every time he walks past a black person. A scared animal will attack and he is once scared sick puppy. Florida this is what he asked for, a rabid lunitic with a gun roaming the streets.

Hide your children hide your wives there is a black hating lunitic on the loose.

Knowing he carries a weapon at all times, any person in their right mind would be right if they shot on site if he motioned or reached under his shirt because they would not know what that fool is going to do. He is damned if he do damned if he don’t and all because he is a paranoid zoned out powder keg waiting to blow.

Shooting black kids in the heart is fine, but if he’s so mentally unstable and out of control that he might hurt a real human being, a real American – a white person – that might be a cause for concern!

American TV is a real trip y’all. Non-stop adverts briefly interrupted by programs and the adverts! “Contyln pills will effectively treat your condition so you’re able to get on with your life. Be advised taking this medication may lead to – kidney failure, blindness, heart attacks, seizures, suicidal thoughts, internal bleeding, hair loss and cancer.” When I saw my first American advert, I thought it was a spoof on a comedy show.

I couldn’t agree with you more, the good ole USA right, where there are two sets of laws depending on what color of the spectrum you are. I can’t get over the fact, of how these racist whites can and do accept this half caste Latino but, they hate those Latinos south of the border, who at one time owned the Southwest.

Why is it that the one drop rule doesn’t apply to him and his siblings just like it applies to kids that are half white and half black? in other words, they are Latinos because of their mother’s heritage.

The same twisted logic that allows John Sununu to claim that Barack Obama isn’t Anglo Saxon enough.

John Sununu:

Sununu was born in Havana, Cuba, the son of Victoria (née Dada) and John Saleh Sununu, an international film distributor.[1] His father’s family came to the United States from the Middle East at the turn of the century. His paternal ancestry is Palestinian from the Greek Orthodox Church of Jerusalem community in Jerusalem. His father, John, was born in Boston. Most of the last two generations of Sununus were also born in the United States. Sununu’s mother, Victoria Dada, was born in El Salvador. Her family was Greek Orthodox Christian and settled in Central America at the turn of the century. Most of his closest relatives in Beirut have died, including an uncle who returned to the Lebanese capital from the United States several years ago. The Governor paid his last visit to Beirut as a child in the late 1940s.[2]

What is more ironic about what I posted is that, having been to Nairobi, I submit that Kenyans have a culture that is arguably closer to England than the USA.

Therein lies the twisted logic.

Apparently, in the Frank Taffe school of racist logic, the amount of melanin in one’s skin has a direct relationship on the ability of an individual to adopt a culture.

So the Zimmerman’s, because they don’t appear to have a lot of that melanin, can become “real Americans”, although they have recent ties to foreign cultures; while the Martins can never be “real Americans”, even though their ancestors go back scores of generations.

Two Sides — Probation status a good reason to back off. Restraining orders likely in the works from both sides. We all know how Fogen likes to dish it back with his women … although it befuddles me on how any woman would get within a half mile of this smarm-fool.

“O’Mara said Zimmerman is normally a “peaceful” and “helpful” person, but he’s currently under an “enormous amount of stress.”

So tell me MO’M, was GZ under any stress that night he and Shellie got in a fight and she left to stay with her dad? You know the night I mean – the night he MURDERED a 17-year-old young man the proceeded to thugify him (with YOUR help MO’M) to cover his lying ass?

Tell me, was he under stress that night? Would he maybe because if stress THAT night not been the “peaceful” “helpful” person you are lying – I mean talking about??!!!!

I suppose Shellie’s lawyer told her to back off since she went to the house outside an agreed upon time and Fogen obviously wants to twist the story around to make her the aggressor. She’s on probation and can’t afford any heat. : / OM sure lied his azz off for Fogen, just like he did before and during the trial.

With that said, at least Baez knew when to cut his ties with the female Fogen but, this fool sorry ass excuse for an attorney, just doesn’t know when to quit with this loser.
How CNN could hire him as a legal analyst is beyond me. the man is a liar as well as a shyster and, his dirt is going to come out in the wash, just like his clients.

The news sites are all reporting now that he didn’t have a gun. The guy on NG tonight was the spokesman for the Lake Mary PD and he said no gun was found. A CNN Miami reporter tweeted that the truck wasn’t search because no probable cause and it wasn’t part of the crime scene.

He had a gun and it was stashed in the truck or he was bluffing Shellie acting like he had it on him. Just like he claims Trayvon and that other kid in the neighborhood did to him (hand in waistband).

Here is a link to info on the GZ/SZ house that is owned by SZ’s parents — and of course it may well be under water, hanging on a thread with the bank before a short sale. She-Lie has supposedly moved out, with only Fogen living there now. If he starts stiffing the landlord (like he and SZ did at the R@TL) the divorce could get even more interesting.

This woman is now a “CONVICTED FELON” all because of her making the dumb choice of lying under oath on his behalf and, this is how he repays her. if it were me, I would be singing like a damn minor bird, about everything I know concerning him murdering a child. also, is this the same girlfriend who he slapped in the mouth for chewing gum? boy oh boy what fools these women really are.

Not a felon. She plead guilty to misdemeanor. I’m not sure she knows the truth. I doubt that she looked into all the evidence that says he’s a liar. She wants to believe that he’s not a murderer, an adultery, yes, but a murderer, no.

So their marriage was in trouble before the murder.That’s why in the jailhouse tapes she said HE would have a great life after this was over and he said no WE to give her hope.
I think her actions and words were that of a desperate woman who either was afraid of him and his family or so lacking in self confidence she would do anything to keep him.
He was just using her.Surprise surprise.
Notice how he made sure his family watched Shelley’s every move.
Her and fogen were very aloof during the trial.

Whoa I didnt see this bit in the Daily Mail – George is fooling around with his ex-fiancee.

Friend and key defense witness John Donnelly told MailOnline: ‘George has been having an affair with his ex-fiancee. Shellie believes it flared back up after the acquittal.’

‘During the trial they were sequestered, moved from house to house there just wasn’t any opportunity for anything like that [an affair] to go on,’ he said. ‘To the best of my knowledge and hers this started up after the trial.’

Shellie had harbored suspicions that her husband had reconnected with his former fiancee following the trial.

According to a close source she had issued him with the ultimatum: ‘Don’t you ever bring that woman into my house.’

But two or three weeks ago, Shellie and her father arrived at the Lake Mary house to find Zimmerman and his ex-fiancee pulling into the driveway.

Shellie is an utter fool to be “flip-flopping” on ANY stories, being the admitted perjurer that she is. And her flip-flop / recantations in this “story” will almost certainly come back to bite her when they are used against her in divorce negotiations and/or proceedings.

She’s now looking as hell-bent on destroying her own future as CAC is on destroying his!

Also … the police chief’s remarks most certainly would NOT HELP in prosecuting any charges, either, even if they were brought.

I thought they were suppose to be the ones to make that decision especially since a gun was involved. but, they gave the fool’s gun back to him. who in their right mind, would want to live in such a lawless state as Florida, or even visit there? not me!

GZ apparently told her to step up towards him, as he held a gun. He’s got this SYG thing down pat with know how of setting someone up for the kill. And she’s a proven liar, charged, convicted with the plea, so who (what jury in FLA) wouldn’t believe him over a woman, white or not. He’s already killed to protect her, ungrateful wench! (snark(

OTOH, men kill wives when they try to separate, and this guy has already had practice and knows he can do it again.

I want to know what was found in the garage, or wherever ‘only wood in there’ caused Sehllie to exclaim repeatedly on the end of the 911 call, Ohhhhh…. my… God…..”

What could be more pressing for attention than a man with a gun. What WAS found in that wood room???

That’s why he was trying to keep shutting the door and didn’t want them to get inside.

Nancy grace reports, with Taafee’s help, that the police say no gun. O’Mara said that earlier, but confirmed on Anderson Cooper (medialite) that there was a gun ‘ON HIS PERSON’ but it was ok because he acted responsibly. But having hand on the gun area would scare a wife who knows where he carries his gun and it’s always on him as MOM confirms she would have known. She didn’t need to see it to presume it was there and he was agitating for her ro come closer.

Perfect set up, get the wife to approach you and you have a right to stand your ground, especially if wife got upset about a woman being in the house. He would then have the right to protect himself from her advancing as he told her to do.

Taffee continues on Nancy Grace to say she is a convicted perjuror, who would believe her and attacks her for the divorce claims she is making.

If SZ thinks Trayvon was degraded, watch what the Z’s do to Shellie. GZ pulled a sweet deal, getting her to lie for him, and he’s off scott free.

The Fogens will use Shellie to the max. According to Sundance Cracker, Gladys asked him to dox the cousin after she claimed Fogen had molested her. Those folks will do anything to cover Fogen Georgia’s tracks.

Alrighty MOM’s spin – Georgie wasn’t getting his way is what this sounds like to me.

Former Local 6 legal analyst Mark O’Mara, who represented George Zimmerman in his murder trial, said that the argument on Monday stemmed over Shellie moving. George Zimmerman wanted to move on Monday and emotions “bubbled” over when he walked in on Shellie Zimmerman still moving, O’Mara said.

More from Mark on a different news site. There was no pushing or touching when I got a divorce – lots of cold shoulders though.

“This has become so emotionalized,” said George Zimmerman’s attorney Mark O’Mara, regarding the divorce and Monday’s incident. “I think everybody got out of hand. There may have been some pushing or touching, that happens in divorces a lot.”

I know someone who lived in MO and was going through a divorce. The wife pushed her estranged husbands arm (in her house) when he took a significant money out of her bank. No red mark, no damage. When he called the police (divorce court was 7 days away), because he called the police, even when he did not want me arrested, because it was called in and expressed a “threat” , the wife was required to be arrested. No weapons…nothing.

How is there confirmed weapons, confirmed damage, NOT HIS HOUSE, and they are able to say “we only heard one side of the story”…..he had WEAPONS…she did not. Her dad was punched in the face, he was not….not he is released??

What monkey business police dept is this?

I suspect she did not press charges because of her probation status and the chance of her getting in more trouble (which she was only in for him anyway).

Since GZ and SZ have been living in the house with permission of the owner (SZ’s dad) it would be considered his legal residence until he moved out voluntarily or was evicted by his “landlord”. Apparently Shellie and her dad came to the house to move some of her stuff out.

Just wait he’ll be in trouble again soon. Is not going to cease till he’s in jail or his family forces him into receiving some help. He had anger and other emotional issues before the shooting that were never resolved.

Deadbeat George sure has a habit of causing confrontations on property that he does not own or even pay for; and subsequently blaming the results of the confrontation on aggression by parties that have every right to be where they were confronted.

HLN said it was her dad’s house and that George’s stuff was inside. This is the house Shellie moved out of when she split with GZ. Anyway, I’m not clear on whether he still lives there or not, or if just his belongings.

The pattern with this guy is to confront, cause an altercation, and blame the confronted. He has repeated it many times in many ways. He is a sick man who feels his pattern in invincible because a bunch of morons let him off of the hook for murder.

I wonder if Joonyah now thinks that Afro-Peruvians are risky. I am positive that Shellie’s dad’s nose is broken, and caused bloold to drain inside his nasal passages, which could’ve KILLED him! The same way Fogen’s bloody scrap on the tip of his nose nearly killed Fogen. If only………… I’ll bet Shellie and her father set him up!!

Look at how many time this POS have been in the news since he was acquited of murdering Treyvon, and nothing good. Now HLN is asking IS GEORGE ZIMMERMAN A DANGER TO SOCIETY?. WTF. All these people know that this POS got away with murder. I for one am sick of him.
Just let me know when he is dead.

Don’t worry Treyvon, You wil get your justice. Fogen is his own worse enemy.

Every last one of them are full of shit, even Ryan Smith because they knew what he was, when they were on his side when he killed a child. as for this woman and her father not pressing charges just tells me that this was all done for publicity and nothing else.

Seeing that a gun was involved, wasn’t it up to LE to arrest him any way, regardless of whether they pressed charges or not. he is going to kill someone else and, he’ll get away with that murder as well.

This is interesting. Shellie Zimmerman is about to see what it’s like to be on the “black” side of an issue. Be prepared to be called money hungry, a liar, a perp of some sort, she’s going to crack and everything that she has to say about the incident will come out unless her or GZ happens to be in an “accident”. This is something the SPD obviously doesn’t want to unfold publicly or it will demonstrate their bias.

Prof and Crane, will see what I can do because this site is a valuable personal blog, personal because it’s yours and it’s Cranes, but also because it’s ours to share with you two.

It’s a crime that you do not have a full support pension from a career doing what you have done. The likes of GR, the need for people to do what was necessary for him, has to be a terrible toll for those who fight the fight, knowing and seeing things no human should ever have to witness. There should be unquestioned support for those who need to get out of that, for whatever reason whether political on the surface, it has to be a terrible burden at times.

Professor , check on federal grants for educating people or some grant along those lines & you may find something, I would look for you but don’t know all you may qualify for, also ,Crane, there may be grants for women that you could get, :), I wouldn’t mind ads, it is so nice to read all the banter again.

I rescue dogs and feral cats total 4 dogs and 3 cats 1 kitten.They voted to send the balance in our pay pal to you because they know how important it is to keep a place of truth where one can go. Not much but ALL we had. The coming days will mean that even those with little but willing to give ALL THEY HAVE will turn the tide. This old former Black Panther salutes you.

It really blows OM’s stories about Fogen and ruins his newly launched career as bigshot attorney if he doesn’t keep his client under control.. And he’s still hoping to get paid for his time, either directly or in future jobs, I’m sure. Does he have a partial interest in the NBC case?

This is what CAC supports think of Shelly > Psssst she does not stand a chance.

“Let me get this straight…a woman who just plead guilty to perjury now accuses her soon to be ex husband of threatening her and her father with a gun? She wouldn’t lie now would she???? She wouldn’t use this as a way to win her divorce case and strip her ex of his right to bear arms in one vindictive fell swoop would she? Nah…cant be.”

“Bitchy wife, who is seeking major money and a divorce from Zimmerman, has called 911
What a surprise.
Advice to George…don’t go near your wife or pay her one thin dime. Let her sell herself on the talk circuit.
This is a domestic thing and only George can get hurt because his wife will always cry, “he had a gun”.
This is such BS and the media eats it up.
Stay away from her George.
That is my best advice.

“Pending hard fact I will go with a divorce fueled false accusation.”

“She might be suffering from ‘mad cow’ disease?”

“Someone wants a leg up in that divorce. The press will allege he has a chemical weapons stockpile or nukes. Just wait.”

The idiocy of these people is profound. The 9-11 call he made before he murdered Trayvon indicates a paranoid delusional nut case incapable of making any rational moves. So why do these George lovers not see the obvious? A sane man involved in a divorce does not go to the house where his wife and father are staying. So why did George do that? Because he is nuttier than a fruit cake.

Of course, a rational mind would come to the conclusion that “birds of a feather, flock together” applies to supporters of CAC.

Racer, it looks more and more like if someone produced a tape of him murdering Trayvon, or if he does something off the wall again, which is likely, that his diehard supporters would still deny his culpability. Many, many of them are just like him.

Oh my my, wasn’t it Shellie who said that she didn’t think Fogen had killed Trayvon Martin in a criminal way because “that’s not his way”? Which way did he punch her daddy-poo? In a self-defense way? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!

“Speaking from her Lake Mary home, she said: ‘I’m relieved. He was a powder keg waiting to blow… I feel relieved now that he… might get some quiet time and some psychological help.
‘If he had run into a stranger and got into an altercation he might have hurt someone or ended up hurt or dead himself.’”

I guess Mr Donnelly does not consider Trayvon a human being. That F’er owes the Martin’s an apology. But as is the Central Park Five case, these shits will never admit to their pre-conceived notions about black males.

He might get some quite time, WTF do these people have between their ears for F’ing brains? he is the one who starts all of the altercations that he is involved in. what is it going to take, for these morons to see this SOB for what he really is? he has already killed a child and, they were more than obliged to help him get away with murder.

I guess it’s going to take him turning on one of them, before they see him for what he really is.

Ok everyone, remember that Vietnam Vet that testified on his behalf and ended up being some AUDIO WITNESS EXPERT and was in the courtroom the whole time….well it seems 2 months later he had a change of heart!!!! Furious…so it is not okay for Shellie and her dad was seemed okay with him for Trayvon!

This interview infuriates me….

“Speaking exclusively to MailOnline, Leanne Benjamin, a key defense witness at the trial and friend of George and Shellie for more than a decade, reacted to news of Zimmerman’s arrest.
Speaking from her Lake Mary home, she said: ‘I’m relieved. He was a powder keg waiting to blow… I feel relieved now that he… might get some quiet time and some psychological help.
‘If he had run into a stranger and got into an altercation he might have hurt someone or ended up hurt or dead himself.’
Her husband, Vietnam vet and army medic John Donnelly, added: ‘As far as we understand Shellie had gone back to the house – a property owned by her father – to collect some belongings.
‘Her father was with her. It was one of the places they stayed for about six months during the trial.
‘George showed up with his gun. It was a domestic altercation. Shellie was getting stuff, her father wants to clear the house out to sell it.’

What in the flip flip blippty blip…”‘I’m relieved. He was a powder keg waiting to blow…‘As far as we understand Shellie had gone back to the house – a property owned by her father – to collect some belongings.”

All of these people are going straight to hell for lying for that man. They all knew he is mentally unstable and murdered that child. I

@KA – I’d add one line to the quoted content in your comment regarding John Donnelly statements today:

George showed up with his gun. It was a domestic altercation. Shellie was getting stuff, her father wants to clear the house out to sell it.

[Donnelly] added: “I would have taken that gun from him and thrown it into the nearest lake.”

Well, Mr. Donnelly, why don’t you do exactly that? You know it needs to be done, and your wife knows CAC is a “powder keg waiting to blow” and needs psychological help. CAC has “blown” big time before, killing a child. So, JUST DO IT – before he blows again and fires another hollow point bullet into another person’s heart. Wake up, and smell the coffee.

Professor, I donated.
I’m sorry I had not done so previously but it’s the result of a corrupt court stealing my money right out of my bank (no paperwork) and then putting through fake paperwork to perpetuate the theft. You know how that goes.

My lawyer, whom I pay every month for work he did in 2009/2010 (ineffectively because the appeals bench was also corrupt, surprise surprise) will wait a month longer for his payment; I think it is OK and to me it seems only right.

She’d be arrested for
unlawful entry
terrorist threats
assault & battery
stalking
destruction of another’s property
and possession of a firearm in violation of probation
of course…prolly receive a life term on conviction

“Her [Shellie] attorney told ABC News that George pulled a knife on her today after she discovered a firearm in the house they shared. He then pulled a gun on her and her father after a verbal altercation went bad, according to attorney Kelly Sims….George Zimmerman’s attorney, Mark O’Mara, did not immediately respond to request for comment.”

Don’t worry; if Shellie’s big bad thug daddy tries to hurt Fogen, he’ll do the “shrimp” move to save his own life. The “shrimp” move was taught to him by the gym guy, but long before he learned it, Shellie was aware of it. On their wedding night, in fact, she reportedly said: “Oh what a shrimp!”

“That dumb crazy ass cracker, I told not to look for her, but noooooo, he’s Mr. Invincible….had to fucking do it. Lets see, if I spin this right we can put up……..Okay, I’ll say…..hmmm, some black kid……in a hoodie looking to buy a gun, growing some weed……..scratch that……high on weed, walked into the house SheLie was in and he just had to protect her. Yeah !! that’s the ticket. Nobody will ever question that one and I can talk about it for months on my new show”

Like the Central Park Five case, I bet all those assholes in the media who thought Trayvon brought his death on himself by the hand of poor old innocent George will not have the guts to admit they were wrong.

She said they stayed in a trailer in the woods up north after he bonded out the first time and before that bond was revoked in June, 2012. That has nothing to do with their subsequent gypsy-style hotel life or the rental house used during the trial.

I see that now, but they liked to hold that image in the public’s mind . . . seems that was a brief situation. When Fogen went up north to Delaware, he was in a big house too, so the trailer issue has to be somewhere in FL after that.

Girlp – The reference to the trailer in the woods was BEFORE his first bond was revoked. Then she said they lived like gypsies, which they did … in several extended stay-type hotels.

In Florida, a $240,000 home is no Taj Mahal — and that number refers to Seminole County property appraiser’s valuation for taxation, not the actual market value, which could be higher or lower, depending on whether it’s been homesteaded.

Who, who I say, is the real thug in this case, we all know exactly who it is and, I’ll bet he isn’t taking ShelLies filing for a divorce none too good. they said that there were three people involved. I wonder what his supporters think of him now.

Well, I guess the old saying is true, in that birds of a feather flock together. with him pulling first a knife and, than a gun on her, his fat ass belongs in jail. why is the state of Florida molly coddling his fat ass?

Prof, looks like you are kind of screwed , what happened to all those people who were so busy calling folks trolls? I haven’t been back since Fogen’s verdict, I think I can spare a dime. Hang in there. Thank God I can work to supplement my social security. Peace out, keep your chin up.

I’m sorry I can’t help. I don’t qualify for SSD because despite IBS and psoriatic arthritis keeping me basically home-bound, I am “able to work” despite making about half of minimum wage right now typing at home. I had to pawn jewelry and was still short rent because my computer was down last week. with no computer no $. I was still short for rent but credit union overdraft protection covered it thank God so now the money from pawning my ring will buy dog food abd toilet paper til next payday. I’ll worry about my other bills later. at least I have my rent paid and I took in a roomate so hopefully things will be looking up. I won’t read here anymore because I feel guilty and can’t afford it. Thanks for all you do.