During a Thursday night interview on Current TV‘s “The Young Turks,” DeWolf explained how the maligned religion is able to lure high-profile celebrities like Tom Cruise, John Travolta, and Juliette Lewis into the fold. “I think it is one of the most brilliant and devious, systematic brainwashing systems that’s ever been invented,” DeWolf said.

“It works through electrified hypnosis. It works through past life regression therapy. It works through a lot of hodgepodge of ideas that you sort of throw together with this extremely brutal sort of security sense and this kind of like CIA-like structure that becomes really intoxicating to people.”

DeWolf continued:

“To meet people who’ve been out of the cult, yeah you want to ask them about Xenu and aliens, but the fact is these are smart people they’ve just been completely destroyed systematically.”

DeWolf is a successful slam poet and writer in his own right, and says that he was never involved in Scientology, which, he tells the New York Post, destroyed L. Ron Hubbard’s life.

“[He] became more and more unhinged in his last days. He was lost in his own little wonderland, surrounded by this armada, this dark security force. He was totally lost.”

Of course, the official opinion on Jamie DeWolf from Scientology’s leaders is that he has no clue what he’s talking about.

“Despite his public representations and self-promotion, Mr. DeWolf is not knowledgeable about the Church of Scientology or its founder,” said spokesperson Karin Pouw in response to earlier remarks made by DeWolf about Katie Holmes.