and an Allium which I bought together with A. platycaule. Could it be A. akaka too?

Wim, your unidentified allium looks like a pale small-flowered form of A. karataviense, I don't think it is A. akaka. I grew a number of forms of A. karataviense from various collections sent to me by Arnis Seisums, and one was a very pale small-flowered plant that looks very similar to your plant.

very small and long flowering, Allium hierochuntinum, from Israel and Jordan, near the dead sea

Fred, exquisite photo of Allium hierochuntinum! Thanks also for showing us more middle eastern treasures like A. rothii and A. libanii, I have lusted for A. rothii for decades. And it is good to show the true A. libanii, as it appears frequently in the seed exchanges but it is always the grand usurper of allium species; A. senescens. And Rafa showed Allium tel-avivense, another excellent middle eastern species that probably can't be grown here

Oh yes, then you most certainly have Allium ovalifolium var. leuconeurum; love the pink stamens.

Interestingly, when I received a few bulbs of what was identified as A. aciphyllum from Chen Yi, the dang thing resulted in three separate species; A. ovalifolium var. ovalifolium, Allium ovalifolium var. leuconeurum (which I have since lost), and the red Allium prattii. I'm glad that I still have the first and last of those three. Last year I separated them, and finally have more of them coming along... I find this group of Chinese Alliums to be rather slow growing and for some reason the seed rarely germinates for me.

Oh yes, then you most certainly have Allium ovalifolium var. leuconeurum; love the pink stamens.

Interestingly, when I received a few bulbs of what was identified as A. aciphyllum from Chen Yi, the dang thing resulted in three separate species; A. ovalifolium var. ovalifolium, Allium ovalifolium var. leuconeurum (which I have since lost), and the red Allium prattii. I'm glad that I still have the first and last of those three. Last year I separated them, and finally have more of them coming along... I find this group of Chinese Alliums to be rather slow growing and for some reason the seed rarely germinates for me.

Many thanks Mark. If someone is going to the States in the autumn I will send along a bulb to post. No seeds here either on the ACE Alliums.

Many thanks Mark. If someone is going to the States in the autumn I will send along a bulb to post. No seeds here either on the ACE Alliums.

johnw

Sounds good. I do occasionally get seed on ovalifolium var. ovalifolium, and always get good seed set on A. listera (a finer relative of A. ovalifolium), but only one seedling in about 8 years with the latter species has ever appeared; not sure what the trick is to getting these to germinate.

I am new on this Forum and trying to find out how everything is working.To start please excuse me when my english is not always correct. A long time ago I had english at school, but after that I only talk sometimes or read(on tv).I come from the Netherlands and live on a farm in the village Creil.We grow about 17 hectare of Tulips and in the winter we have about 2000000 tulips for cutflower al going to the flowerauction in Aalsmeer (Flora Holland)Next to that we have started collecting allium for 25 years now, resulting in a collection of more then 350 varietys. About 20 years ago we also started to cross allium. At this moment we grow over 25 new allium, some of them are already on the marked ( Summer Drummer, Ping Pong, Pink Jewel, Spider) and others will be in the comming years (Hairy Friend, Pink Lady, Purple Mystery, Dark Eyes), and hopefully more to come…….We show our allium every year on the weekly KAVB Flower Show, and this Forum was brought to our attention by Luit van Delft, who always uploads photos to this forum.Last week we looked on a lot of pages about allium and saw very much photos of very beautiful alliums we never have seen before, We read a lot of comments an I think there is much to learn about allium for me here…….Wietse Mellema

It will be good to learn more about your Allium cultivars and of course we hope you will find things of interest from the Allium lovers of the Forum.

Thank you Maggi, I hope to learn a lot on this Forum, and ofcourse I like to tel/show (almost) everything I know about Allium. In the last few years I have made about 2000 Photos of allium (a lot you will find on my webpage http://www.wmel.nl/?pagina=3&tp=6 ). We are stil working on our website but it takes very much time, and as we do not have any permanent personal (in busy periods we work with students, poolish people and in the winter with 6-8 woman/wife's of other farmers in our village) It is not our most inportant work to update al the allium photos on our website. But if anyone wants to see a picture of a allium from my collection please ask, and I will see if I have one and put it on this Forum.