America is DEAD. Accept your DEMISE with dignity and BOW to TPTB

too bad its only north america that is #ed. the rest of the world is free from the NWO, There are no crazy chem trails and poisons and soft metals in
foods in other countries. travel around the world, go outside north america, feel the fresh air. life isnt over, NWO is nothing. Most ppl live full
and happy lives without even knowing they are being controlled. cause news flash we arent, you let your self be controled if you are weak minded.

What exactly did Ghandi change? Why are the people of India still limited to caste systems?

It is common knowledge now that the caste sytem has largely been eroded in India. In certain places, where the caste sytem was strongest for longest,
only the the pyer-keepers along the Ganges tentatively hold onto their caste. Taking into account their immense responsibility in torching the human
body until only ashes remain, it is not surprising that they should want to be a part of this ancient system.

Ghandi was a great man, and I would imagine that a great deal of Indians would find that he changed their country immensely and for the better. One
man!

All sarcasm and wit aside... do you enjoy birds singing, a sunset, the smell of BBq cooking, maybe a nice ice cold Coke in the little green
bottles? How about bacon on a cheeseburger... or some good Wagner or Aaron Copeland to wake to. Ever seen a giant herd of 3000 buffaloe? What do you
live for, EMPIRE?

All of those things are experiences. However, there is nothing unique about them. You’ve listened to the cry of the crow, or the call of Hawks and?
They’re all saying the same thing. You drink coke? You can have pepsi, rc or some off brand cola, it’s still cola. The sunset? Doesn’t matter if
I see it when I’m in the bay area, or when I’m out of state, it’s still the same sun. Music? Only seven notes in a scale. You’re simply
repeating the notes in whatever order the key and scale say you should. Buffalo? One thousand or three thousand, they are a sight to behold, but the
experience is still the same.

I cannot understand this reasoning. I read the Dokkodo just now. It is sadly void of any meaning. I see that you are obviously following the
teachings of this Dokkodo, but I must petition you to stop. You know what you should say? Screw the powers that be. Like you said, freedom is
death. When you die, they cannot control you. Am I right? Well since death is inevitable, they have no real power over you. That's like trying to
stop the sun from rising in the morning or setting in the evening. We are all going to die, and when we do, any power they think they have is gone
from us. Their authority is an illusion. They, too, will one day die. Someone will take their place, sure. But we will all be long gone and nice
and dead by then. So my proposition to you is this: give up the teachings in the Dokkodo and instead live life happily. I'm sure you will regret
having lived such an empty life on your deathbed, which is something the Dokkodo specifically instructs you not to do. I am afraid that you will
regret it, though.

You said all of those things are experience. What is anything? Any and everything is experience. Without experience life is nothing. Yet life is
the only thing we have. Please, enjoy the experiences that you have every day, instead of being abstinent of any and all joy in life. If you ask,
what is joy? Where is the joy? It is what you make it. You do have that power.

But you forgot one thing ...there is no hope in this world for sure but there is still a hope in the afterlife with our creator (to who are spirits
came from)... through his Son Jesus Christ who is the HEIR to that Kingdom ...

Oh, my, yes. People like Pat 'The wallet' Robertson, Hinn, Et al have shown us who's getting to heaven and who isnt. The same, wonderful xtians who
have robbed, fleeced, and screwed others... Why of course- Heaven's the reward of righteous greed, thievery and lies. As opposed to the rest of us.

I'm gonna sit back and have a last minute giggle while all of you are STILL sitting here, getting shot and everything else, just like the rest of us
'unwashed, unsaved masses'.

Face it- if anyone's living a lie, it's the church set- because not only are they so frigging special, Theys gots an escapes plan! By none other
than the fictional deity whose bible's been rewritten more than a Bulwar- Litton manuscript during contest time- redited more than a bad movie
script, and more plotholes than Manhattan has POTholes.

No matter where you are when the sun sets, it's the same sun... that's pretty sad, man. You have no magic in your life... I feel for
ya'.

No it’s not pretty sad, it is reality. The sun is the same no matter where you are on the planet. You may find it magical or romantic if you’re
watching it set in Rio with your S.O., but I’m simply looking at it as a ball of energy that is going to fizzle out.

Coke vs Pepsi... not the same...both are good, but not the same. Like Ms.Weary's chocolate pie vs. Mrs. Gill's chocolate pie... both are
good, but not the same.

Same thing. They fizz in your mouth, they have caffeine, etc. It’s like Godiva and Ghirdelli, both are chocolate, one may have been processed
different or cooked a certain way, but in the end you’re left with what? Chocolate.

"Well gee AlreadyGone, your so simplistic..you're missing the point."
REALLY? Happiness and joy is where you find it...contentment is where you place it. Peace and love and hope and faith...I don't see any in your life.
Damn sad too.

What is peace? What is love? What is hope? What is faith? What are these things? I’ll tell you. They are lies we comfort ourselves with because we
don’t want to accept the truth.

You ever watch Ol'Yellar..the Disney classic...or The Brian Piccalo Story? Ever cry at the end? Maybe get a lump in your throat when a little
baby grabs your finger, or you see a little child say the Pledge of Allegiance... or see a Farmall 140...all like new go by...with an American Flag
flying in the breeze...

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! You’re a piece of work.

or a field full of corn ready for harvest in the warm summer sun? How about a cup of coffee, steaming hot with a new sunrise... the way the
peach clouds contrasts against a turquoise blue sky? Or maybe some little new born piglets, all lined up suckling on their mom?

Nothing unique about any of those things. It’s all a cycle that is being repeated somewhere on the planet.

Dude you are completely lost. Tell us what is it you smile at? The Sunset is just a ball of energy? love is just a lie... sigh! Your outlook is
worse the death if the wonders of our world cannot evoke any emotion in you. I truly want to know why haven't you just ended it all if you see no
value in anything around you and it's all just the same old mundane thing day in and day out? Are you depressed? maybe you need some help?

Empathy has a lot of you poor schmucks on a crazy run. Yeah, you don't realize it, but you're caught in a wake of empathy that has you on a
preposterous state of mind that is indeed making you stubbornly one-track minded and as blind as the next guy.

I don't know how many times I have to say it, but most of you people on here who talk about the government sit in the comfort of your american home
type, type, typing away on your little computer while on the other side of the world a Thai man is thrown in jail for accidently disrespecting
something with the picture of the king on it. I want to just come out and tell you all to just shut the [OOPS!] up, but that'd be just plain rude. Be
thankful for what you have, don't seem an ingrateful jerk who's always looking over their shoulder.

You seem to have an odd concept of what dignity is. I do not think that the words bow and dignity belong in the same sentence
together.

Yes they do. In many ancient cultures, and even in cultures present today, bowing and dignity are often found together. I shouldn’t have to explain
these things to you.

Martin Luther

Reject by his so called Christian brothers.

Gandhi

In the beginning, had some very racist views, and did little to help India which is why the people in the country are still subjected to caste
systems, regardless of what idiots may say.

Martin Luther King Jr

KIA (I’d say Jackson was involve.) Where are African Americans now?

Socrates

The father of plagiarism who most likely never presented an original thought of his own, but instead, most likely lifted it from other
peoples/cultures around him.

Mother Teresa

Experienced the Dark Night of the Soul, helped all she could, yet little boys are being molested by depraved priests.

Thomas Jefferson

TPTB.

Benjamin Franklin

TPTB.

Malcolm X

KIA by his own people. Realized his version of Islam was different from Islam, yet he could do nothing to help Africans that are subjected to
mistreatment from their Arabic Muslim brothers.

Andrew Jackson

TPTB.

I just have to point out that, it is the bending of the fabric of space, that causes the spinning of the Earth on its axis. You would think
that this would be common knowledge in the 21st century.

Einstein would be ashamed of you.

You fail at sarcasm.

The Earth is actually a whole body in space that we call planets. The Earth is not really divided on any issue. In fact, I do not think that
the Earth votes either Republican nor Democrat. Planets do not care. On the other hand, humans may be divided, but that could be from a lack of
education.

Unless you people begin to break-down each one of the philosophical and psychological elements within his work, your arguments will be like the bits
of floating garbage within his empirical thought structure.

...Perhaps confirming that you - like him - are stagnant, intellectually.

He's having fun, and from the place he sits, from his position above his empire - you are all "slaves" sipping from his offering. Can't you see
that? Can't you see how to get passed that?

...Definitions are necessary in order to bring him down to your landscape, and make him accept that this is the landscape you are bringing him too. He
agrees, now the flavour of the soup has changed with your addition of an agreed element.

This thread has been very entertaining, but so far Empire has had the best of most of you. Seems that many don't even realize what's happening.

I must admit that I've observed some members work previously, and had some early favourites in SD and particularly m0r and one other who was most
kind to me in U2U on this site -- but Empire has suddenly made his appearance and I have to say I'm suitably impressed.

Well done, Empire. You've licked 'em clean and your blade is finer than I ever thought you possessed or deserved to hold.

So having things better then people in 3rd world countries is reason not to fight encroachment on freedom? We want to restore and keep freedom so
just because we might have it better then someone else is no reason not to be vigilant on protecting against encroachment on our freedoms.

Also what you described in Thailand happens every day in most major cities of America if someone voices displeasure at police or judges etc.

The point is we achieved a larger measure of freedom then any other country on earth and we see it slipping away inch by inch and want to stop it and
reverse it and increase it. So stop telling us to not worry about it because someone else has it worse. That is Marxist socialist propaganda fed to
folks to get them to think if someone has less freedom then us then we should let our freedom regress to thier level.

Originally posted by Simplynoone
But you forgot one thing ...there is no hope in this world for sure but there is still a hope in the afterlife with our creator (to who are spirits
came from)...
through his Son Jesus Christ who is the HEIR to that Kingdom ...
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[edit on 18-3-2010 by Simplynoone]

[edit on 18-3-2010 by Simplynoone]

My question is, how do we not know that religion isn't a tool conjured up by TPTB? I always hear people saying that no matter what happens here, they
have Heaven to look forward to. I am beginning to wonder if that isn't just a cop out. It seems like TPTB are all about control, as is religion. We
could all stop this if we really wanted by standing up and saying no, and if needed, taking it to the next step. But with all this scripture about
giving to ceasar what is ceasars and and so on it adds a catch 22 to the mix. "I could fight back, but I don't want to spoil my chances of getting
into heaven."
Where would the human race be if the direction of the past 50-100 years (or 500-1000yrs) hadn't been handed over to what seems like some of the
worst, psychopathic, power hungry, miserable people on the planet? So many bright minds, and good hearts, that if allowed to flourish, could've, and
maybe still will make earth the paradise we all dream of.
Wouldn't a truly loving and forgiving God want us to fight back at injustices? Our own and the injustices suffered by others? I never understand
people who want to see little guys who commit little crimes get the book thrown at them and rot in prison or worse for the rest of their life but let
the big dogs who do unspeakable things get away with it. Even when it affects them directly, they still won't lift a finger, and then they'll quote
some scripture and just reassure themselves that their little mansion in heaven is being readied for them. That by letting these criminals sit in the
drivers seat and keep us in a downward spiral that they are somehow doing God's work. But if the whole Bible story and religion thing is a creation
of TPTB, wouldn't it stand to reason that maybe we have take some responsibility for our future and that of our children and stop waiting for some
deity to show up and make everything all happy or hope that the whole St. Peter and streets of gold story is true. I'm not trying to mock religion or
believers. I just think there comes a point where one has to question the foundation of their belief system when there seems to be a blevy of
contradictions, and the ones telling us to follow the rules of said belief system appear to be the biggest offenders.

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