I think hate is destructive. I think White Nationalism should not be motivated by hate, but by caring for the White Cause. It should be based on intelligence, not ignorance. I just think that sometimes White Nationalists get discouraged by the present situation and give into hate.

It's not a question of whether hate is bad, or good. Hate is an natural emotion that, at times, is entirely justified. Our ideology is not based on the intense dislike of other peoples, it's based on love and respect for our own. However, we do not live in a vacuum and we simply can't ignore enemy forces that might threaten our community.

Any of the strong language you hear here is simply due to frustration and helplessness.

Hate, fear, love, happiness, sorrow, anger. They are all human emotions.
How do you outlaw an emotion without violating the laws of nature?
I suppose someday when the human race has been reduced to an ant coloney like existence as the anti-Whites fantasize it will, most if not all human emotions will have to be outlawed for the betterment of the collective.
Hate is quickly becoming a thought crime because what they call hate is actually the resentment caused by our knowledge over what is happening to us.
All dictatorships have to eliminate the resistence to make their rule safe from revolution.
Knowledge is dangerous to the collective and it is why they kill off the intelligent people first and spare the dumb and obedient.
They make perfect slaves.
Fear will have to be outlawed because it tends to cause the slaves to hesitate instead of leaping to their deaths on command.
That hesitation is dangerous to the collective.
It means the slaves are having independant thoughts which could lead to revolt.
That survival instinct will have to be erased from the human mind in order to produce a totally subserviant race.
Love will be outlawed and done away with in order to remove any sense of emotional attachment in a world where humans are bred like cattle (goyim) by the state to serve the state.
Personal relationships can lead to dangerous exchanges of thoughts and ideas forbidden by the state that could lead to revolt.
People trusting each other is dangerous because once they start trusting each other, there is a danger that they might begin a movement to revolt against the state.
Spys will be necessary to scan the masses for any possible dissidents and the fear of being discovered must be as terrifying as possible.
This terror will keep their mouths shut about any ideas they may have about revolting against the state.
Happiness will have to be monitored and governed by the state to ensure that it is only expressed when productivity quotas have been met.
Anger will also have to be regulated in the same way so that it can be directed inward when productivity begins to lack.
Sorrow will be outlawed because it interferes with productivity, but being that there will be no loved ones to mourn when they die, it will be a moot point.
When all of these things have become the way of humanity, we will have reached utopia.
A perfect world where no one feels anything or thinks improper thoughts. Death will be our only friend.

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Re: Hate - constructive or destructive force ?

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Originally Posted by neurosport

i am somewhat confused as to what is the attitude of SF members towards this.

on one hand it seems clear that SF members disapprove of methods such as Hitler supposedly used (gas chambers, etc) and on the other hand i come across sentiments such as "i wish such and such half breed would get sick and die because it is unfit to live."

so which is it? is hate good or bad so to speak? how can you hold hate inside of you and disapprove of hate crimes at the same time? i don't understand - to me its either you hate or you don't. i don't understand how you can hate and not hate at the same time.

can anybody straighten this out for me?

I believe that hate is simply cause and effect, no more no less. Person/group x does something bad to person/group y, and the result is that person/group y hates person/group x. Period, end of discussion. Sometimes all it takes is one something bad, sometimes it takes a series of somethings bad over a long period. No matter. "Constructive/Good" or "Destructive/Bad" have nothing to do with it. Feelings are just that feelings.

Since you mentioned it, let me tell you that I do not hate mixed-race kids. I hate the thoughtless, selfish pigs who decided to race-mix in the first place.

i am somewhat confused as to what is the attitude of SF members towards this.

on one hand it seems clear that SF members disapprove of methods such as Hitler supposedly used (gas chambers, etc) and on the other hand i come across sentiments such as "i wish such and such half breed would get sick and die because it is unfit to live."

so which is it? is hate good or bad so to speak? how can you hold hate inside of you and disapprove of hate crimes at the same time? i don't understand - to me its either you hate or you don't. i don't understand how you can hate and not hate at the same time.

can anybody straighten this out for me?

Simple answer to your confusion.
You have to understand that white nationalists as represented on stormfront encompasses a wide range of opinions types and points of view.

And as Henry Ford pointed out a lot of what you construe as hate is actualy the result of frustration and anger at having to live under the rule of people and a system that many people here intensly resent and dislike .

If the current form of the multi racial society did not exist then race hate would not be as common as it is today, because the reasons for the anger that gives birth to race hate such as enforced intergration the mass immigration of non whites to white homelands and laws that favor non whites and repress white rights would not exist.

I disagree. According to Hindu beliefs, hate releases toxins which can reduce one's "prana" or life-force, energy etc. Any negative emotion should be channelised into something, positive and constructive. You cannot hate any of God's creation for its mere existence.

I'm not lying when I say I don't hate anybody. Hate doesn't come naturally to me because of my tendency to see the glass half-full everytime, instead of half-empty. I love all of God's creation equally. I don't understand what is wrong with that principle.

There's nothing wrong with that principle, but if you really want to get technical about it, there are other negative emotions besides hate. Greed is another one, and yet, Hindus don't seem to have any problem with greed.

If you allow and even encourage greed, then there's going to be hate. I guarantee it. Hate is a natural consequence of greed.

disagree. According to Hindu beliefs, hate releases toxins which can reduce one's "prana" or life-force, energy etc. Any negative emotion should be channelised into something, positive and constructive. You cannot hate any of God's creation for its mere existence.

If Hinduism is wise enough to speak of the nature of “prana”, you would think they would be wise enough to not practice suttee (Sati), have an “untouchable” caste system, not drink from the same water sources they defecated in, drink their own urine, etc. And, if there is such thing as Karma, then the Hindus of India must have been among the worst people in the world, given the conditions in which they have lived and live in today. Plus, there has been plenty of “hate” in India toward non-Hindus, hasn’t there? Why, we have two of the most “loving” nations of the world in India and Pakistan.

You are trying to see the world the way your religion says it is, not in the way that it truly exists. There are natural laws. Hate is one of them, as is love, right? They exist in counterbalancing quantities. But, the way non-thinkers such as yourself use the word hate, you really mean disagreement with what you believe. And the way that “anti-racists” use the word “hate”, they really mean White people not submitting to their unnatural philosophy. Do warriors of two opposing armies “hate” each other? Well, do they?

I think hate is destructive. I think White Nationalism should not be motivated by hate, but by caring for the White Cause. It should be based on intelligence, not ignorance. I just think that sometimes White Nationalists get discouraged by the present situation and give into hate.

I completely agree with that. In my opinion, hate is evil. Money is the seed and hate is evil's roots. No contructive purposes come from hate, even if its evil you hate. I am not saying love evil, because injustice and crimes are what they are no matter whom the perpatrator was. However, hatred leads only to destruction. I've read thoughts here that actually hurt me because I've never felt the capacity to hate anyone, while there are thoughts here that blacks and other races are evil animals that have never benifited anyone, not even themsleves, and that the hatred they do recieve is deserved. No one should be generalized to be hated like that. Unless they fit the actuall personel of wickedness, then none should be thought of like that, black, white brown or any other color. Nice to see more respectable WN's.