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Friday, December 04, 2015

Tears in San Bernardino

"The American people are sitting ducks. Coming soon to a small town near you - or me...."

From The Rant

22 November 2015

I wrote that line ten days before the massacre in San Bernardino. Prescient? Hardly. These blood baths have become as easy as predicting that the sun will set in the western sky this afternoon.

BAD NEWS: There have been 355 mass shootings in this doomed country since New Year's Day.

BADDER NEWS: The year isn't even over yet. There will be more before January 1, 2016. Ain't that a fucking hoot?

Yesterday, Lindsay Graham stated that this latest tragedy has nothing to do with gun control. Anyone who believes that it does, he said, "is living in a different world." Right. As I said twelve days ago in the piece quoted above, the targeted assassinations of key members of congress would solve this problem very handily - you'd better believe it. Let's see how quickly old Lindsay changes his tune when and if some maniacal asshole takes a pop at him - that's assuming he lives to regret his stand on the issue that is killing this country.

On second thought, would it make that much of a difference?

When George W. Bush stupidly let the assault weapons ban expire over a decade ago, so many of them have been sold that it would more-than-likely take at least a decade before any tangible results were perceived. As I've said too many times to count, the damage Dubya did to this once-great nation will still be felt after our grandchildren are dead and gone.

Hey! I just had the nuttiest idea! Let's send another member of that disgusting family to the White House! Wouldn't that be a scream?

To be honest with you, I'm sick and tired of writing about this topic. It's a cinch that it is going to happen again real soon, and quite frankly, I've got better things to be writing about - like the sixtieth anniversary of Rosa Parks' defiance of the Montgomery, Alabama segregation laws - an act of civil disobedience that changed this country forever. That piece has been shot to hell - no pun intended. From this point on I'm just going to cut-and-paste various thoughts on this topic that I've written all-too-often over the years. Happy reading kiddies!

March 29, 2009:

As Americans arm themselves to the teeth, the law of averages will eventually forbid such an unspeakable tragedy from not touching the lives of almost everyone. It has already happened to my family - twice. Two female cousins of mine - who never even had the joy of meeting one another - (one on my mother's side, the other on my father's) both died as the result of being murdered by men who were stalking them. Don't for a moment reflect on the passive tranquility of your lives and delude yourself into thinking, "It can't happen here". It can. It will. Whether child, parent, sibling, cousin or friend; gun violence will touch your seemingly untouchable lives eventually. Count on it.

July 20, 2012:

Mitch McConnell and the NRA want us to swallow the idiotic notion that gun control is an assault on our "freedom"; that it's merely one slippery step on the totalitarian banana peel that would blindly lead us from democracy to "Stalinism" - or "Fascism" - or "Hitlerism" - or whatever stupid fucking "ism" of-the-day they happen to be whining about at any given moment. We shouldn't be naive enough to fall victim to their lies and propaganda. As long as American gun laws remain as insanely lax as they presently do, the chaos will persist. What part of this no-brainer do these corrupt fools not get?

This is the way it's going to be from now on, kiddies. When a country has the stupidest gun laws in the western world (laws that are getting even stupider by the year) its citizens should come to expect this sort of thing. Our lawmakers have no intention of correcting this unacceptable situation. Most of them are too terrified of the power of the National Rifle Association to do the right thing. Fifty-seven years ago John F. Kennedy (one of history's more celebrated victims of gun violence) wrote a book that profiled examples of great political courage throughout American history. He wouldn't have much material to work with were he around today to write a sequel. Cowardice abounds. Get used to living in a country in ruins. This is the way it's going to be from now on.

December 15, 2012:

Rivers of blood. Broken bodies. Broken hearts. This is the new reality. Come to think about it, this reality is not very "new" in the least. In fact, it is now as common as a full moon in the morning sky. It almost amazes me that most of us still are stunned when an event of this magnitude occurs. It barely fazed me. When the news [of the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre] came over the television yesterday morning I did not so-much-as bat an eye. You see, I long ago adjusted to living in this America.

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"Oh", I said out loud, "it happened again, huh?" And so close to the Christmas season. Ho ho fucking ho.

Truth be told, I'll be stunned only when it happens in my back yard. Although I have to tell you that it was unnerving (to say the very least) to know that my thirteen-year-old niece attends an elementary school about ten miles from where this latest (and totally expected) mass murder took place. She's safe and sound, thank goodness. Your children are safe and sound, too....ya think?

January 15, 2013:

The gun crazies tell us that the purpose of the Second Amendment was to have the people armed to protect themselves against a tyrannical government. That's pretty crazy, too. The founders had a bit more faith in this new democratic experiment than that. There's a dandy reason why it was not legal for a private citizen to own a cannon back in the day. A cannon, when aimed just right, was capable of harming or killing a whole lot of innocent people. That's why they inserted the line about "a well-regulated militia" (a line the NRA always omits when quoting that amendment). James Madison and crew could not have envisioned rapid-fire, semi automatic weapons in their wildest dreams. Hell, they couldn't even foresee the Edison Wax Cylinder! That's the reason they designed the Constitution to be amendable. They had no idea what future technology had in store for humanity. A bit of amending is in order, wouldn't you say?

February 20, 2013:

The biggest laugh I get is the argument that only stricter penalties will stem the tide. Since the reinstatement of the death penalty in 1977, the murder rate has risen dramatically. Stricter penalties? You can only execute someone once. The electric chair will not make a person "deader" than a lethal injection. There is not a single punishment on the books that would have stopped Adam Lanza from killing twenty little children and seven women (and himself) on December 14, 2012. Let's put that moronic notion out to pasture here and now, okay?

March 22,2013:

In the meantime (very mean indeed) we really have to come face-to-face with the prospect of living in a nation in ruins. We need to understand that there are just too many people in this doomed country - too violent, too stupid, and too stone-cold crazy - to ever see the light of day. This is not a situation that can be cured overnight by some magical, sociological panacea. This is a condition that will take a century or more to remedy - if it is ever remedied at all. We might as well deal with it as best we can. We The People are diseased. Congress is an organized criminal enterprise. The media is beyond dysfunctional. The chickens are coming home to roost - and they're armed and dangerous.

GUNS! Guns galore, baby! GUNS FOREVER! Lots 'n' lots of little baby body parts! Little boys 'n' girls, blown to smithereens - to teeny weeny bits! Decapitated heads and limbs - severed forever by the force of the explosion from the hand of some homicidal half-wit with a serious attitude problem and way too much time on his hands. This is what happened in Newtown, Connecticut on December 14, 2012. Have a look at the autopsy reports if you think I'm lying to you.

BLOOD! WE CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF IT! WE NEED IT!

Leave it to our hired morticians to deal with the remnants and the carnage. Wepay these people good money to clean up society's messes. We're gonna need a lot more of them in the years to come. Welcome to America. Enjoy your stay.

Their message has been received a little too loud and all too clear. You could not have missed it had you tried:

Mitch McConnell and the NRA want us to swallow the idiotic notion that gun control is an assault on our "freedom"; that it's merely one slippery step on the totalitarian banana peel that would blindly lead us from democracy to "Stalinism" - or "Fascism" - or "Hitlerism" - or whatever stupid fucking "ism" of-the-day they happen to be whining about at any given moment. We shouldn't be naïve enough to fall victim to their lies and propaganda. As long as American gun laws remain as insanely lax as they presently do, the chaos will persist. What part of this no-brainer do these corrupt fools not get?September 8, 2013:Note to the rest of the world: Planning on a sweet and cozy vacation for the spouse and kiddies? Here's some sound advice you'd be smart to heed: Stay out of the this place. We here in the good ol' USA want you dead. And if we catch you in the wrong place at the wrong time you're a goner, Buster. Of course the odds are much better than fifty/fifty that you'll get out of here alivebut why on earth would you want to take such a chance - particularly when your loved ones are involved? Go out and hug a tree during a thunderstorm. It's much safer than visiting the United States of America. Think I'm kidding? Don't mess with us. Stay away from here if you know what's good for you. I'm not kidding.`

September 21, 2013:

Recently on Democracy Now, an ex-NRA member named Tom Diaz posed the question, "What kind of society are we going to be?" His heart was in the right place but he's asking the wrong question. What he should be asking is, "What kind of society have we become?" You don't need a masters degree in sociology to come up with the answer to that. It's all-too-clear that we've morphed into a society with a homicidal, cowboy mentality. "Gun Culture": it's a term you're hearing quite often these days, and there's a damned good reason for that, pardner. We just can't get enough of those iron phallic symbols. That's the reason this is so-much-more of a "man problem". I'm glad I was born a male but I'm not proud to be one. Men can be real assholes. Have you ever noticed that?

December 14, 2013:

The NRA types love to jabber away - like diseased little myna birds - about "freedom". We need to came face-to-face with some extremely unpleasant realities: A people who live in a chronic state of mortal terror - wondering when and where the next massacre of innocent little boys and girls will take place - may indeed be many things (no argument there!) "Free" they are not.

Let's just stop kidding ourselves here and now, okay?

May 28, 2014:

Then again, mountains of bodies and rivers of blood suits my purposes just fine, thank you very much. I'll never have writers block, that's for damned sure. A tip of the hat and a raising of the glass to Wayne LaPierre and the National Rifle Association. They've added so much meaning to my life that I'm at a loss to find the words to express my gratitude.

August 27, 2015:

Nearly three years ago, twenty innocent little girls and boys were slaughtered - like rabid swine - inside their classroom at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. Also murdered on that day were six women whose job it was to educate and protect them. If that blood-curdling tragedy was not enough to influence Congress to do what is morally right, do these silly people seriously believe that the bodies of two dead television journalists will be enough to get them to see the light? Are they kidding me?

November 22, 2015:

If you think that what happened in Paris last week cannot happen here - and with comparative ease - you're kidding yourselves. Chew on this for a while: Since the horrific slaughter of twenty-six human beings in a Connecticut elementary school almost two years ago, not a single law has been passed to ensure that something like that would never happen again.

I used to think that America was worth saving. I don't believe that anymore.

Fuck it, I'm going back to bed.

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Not a bad idea. Say good night . America.

Tom Degan

Goshen, NY

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95 Comments:

It would be interesting to see a graph of the number of legal guns vs. the number of atrocities and also the numbers of people legally carrying weapons. I am sure it would contradict the argument that more people should be packing heat...

Also it would be of interest to see the percentage of offenders who have a history of serious violent crime, who have a history of being prescribed anti-anxiety drugs... I have a suspicion that many of them are not criminals. Media usage habits, gaming interests... would also be telling. What I do know for sure is that the sensationalizing that the media does is disgusting and feeds the whole phenomena. But segments of the media profit greatly from these events (as does the gun industry) so in their way they a promoting the whole cycle.

Another graph that would be of note is ratings for various programming, advertizing pricing, and weapon sales...

So if any of you guys are graduate students in economics or sociology, and are looking for ideas for a thesis... but beware, there may be powerful corporate interests that do not want these things commonly known.

Chuckie, not long agao "Gin free zones" were called "public places". Had everyone in Sacremento been armed, nothing would have changed. In NONE of the mass shottings the last few year, would MORE guns have helped.

Islam: What the West Needs to Know - an examination of Islam, violence, and the fate of the non-Muslim world.

The documentary consists of original interviews, citations from Islamic texts, Islamic artwork, computer-animated maps, footage of Western leaders, and Islamic television broadcasts. Its tone is sober, methodical, and compelling. Virtually every major Western leader has over the past several years expressed the view that Islam is a peaceful religion and that those who commit violence in its name are fanatics who misinterpret its tenets. This claim, while widely circulated, rarely attracts serious public examination. Relying primarily on Islam’s own sources, this documentary demonstrates that Islam is a violent, expansionary ideology that seeks the destruction or subjugation of other faiths, cultures, and systems of government.

Outline of the Documentary

IntroductionWe hear from prominent Western leaders that Islam is peaceful and that those who commit violence in its name are heterodox fanatics.

Part 1: ‘There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his Prophet’Our interviewees affirm their belief that Islamic violence is entirely orthodox behavior for Muslims and stems directly from the teachings and example of the Prophet Muhammad and the commands of the Koran. We learn that the example of Muhammad is one of a violent warlord who killed numerous people. The Koran – the verbatim words of Allah – prescribes violence against non-Muslims and Muhammad is the perfect example of the Koran in action.

The San Bernardino attack was in a government building where weapons are prohibited. Even people that are legally licenesd to carry a gun are not allowed to bring them in. California has extremely strict gun control laws including an assault weapon ban stronger than the Federal ban that expired. How did that help the victims this week?

California essentially has all the laws on that Gun control advocates have been asking for on a national level. And it did exactly nothing to prevent this. Even that wonderful waiting period they have over there didn't stop them!. so something in the news happens with guns everyone starts screaming about laws that were already in place. Universal background checks, hi capacity magazine bans, assault weapons bans, all of them did nothing to stop this. I think people just want a law passed just to say they did something. regardless of the effects. they could've killed these people with rusted old shotguns and everyone would be clamoring for an assault weapons ban. FYI "Assault weapons" are used in less then 1% of gun homicides. more people are murdered by bare hands. "assault rifles" just look scarier.

Riker said,"Universal background checks, hi capacity magazine bans, assault weapons bans, all of them did nothing to stop this."America does not have universal background checks. America does not have a ban on assault weapons. America does not have a ban on hi capacity magazines, some States do.

Maybe it's time for Dave to support his claim with numbers and dates of right wing terrorist killings. He's starting to sound like Harry Reid who said Romney hadn't paid income tax. Which it turned out was a lie

Actually deaths by guns has been steadily dropping for past 10 years, a fact that needs to be added to the mix of this conversation. Stopping the mfg of guns and then the repeal of the 2nd would reduce the number of guns in America. But if the governmentSays they can't round up 11 million illegals living here how can the round up all the guns?

What is clear to me is regardless who the killer is, mass murders are selecting areas to attack where they are safe I.E. Gun free zones. As much as this might offend some, that is the fact. Now with active radical Islamic terriost murders happening I think the question we should be asking is " how are our current gun controls making us safer" and is our Federal govt being honest with us in their ascessment of the radical Islamic terror threat domestically?

Do more PC laws make us safer?Do more Refugees from Muslim countries make us safer?Does our open southern border make us safer?Does doing away with the NRA make us safer?Does closing Gittmo make us safer?Does removing all firearms make us safer?

Again, the decline in murders outside of gun free zones must be evaluated. Why is it safer out side a gun free zone than with in one?

Explain this to me. The Supreme Court has ruled that 2nd amendment is an individual right. Just as they have for freedom of speech and religion and abortions. What does it say about you that you want those rights to be taken away without due process? such as would be done if you allow the FBI to pick and choose who can pass a background check. Anyone can be put on the "Watch List" regardless of their background. all the FBI needs to do is see you posted something online about being anti-government, or being a muslim or just overall not fitting in with the political establishment and BAM you're on a government list, restricting your rights. no oversight, no appeals no due process. Who knows maybe you just ticked off someone in the government and they want to punish you for it. In effect people will have to watch what they do or say regardless of legality. A de-facto censoring of free speech. For whatever reason so called "progressives" support this is beyond me. The ACLU is against this kind've government mischief for OBVIOUS reasons.

The Southern Poverty Law Center counted 784 active hate groups in the United States in 2014. Only organizations and their chapters known to be active during 2014 are included.

https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map

Southern Redneck is correct about Obama, but forgets Bush has the blood of 4 thousand Americans directly on his hands, the creation of ISIS by firing the Iraqi army in his war for crony profit and political gain based on lies, and 3,000 more dead Americans by dismissing the threat of al-Qaeda after being repeatedly warned.

OK, let's discuss some Right Wing terrorist killings. This guy reminds me of Chuckie all the way:

Jim David Adkisson entered the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church and killed two people and wounded six others during the presentation of a children’s musical.

Adkisson targeted the church, “because of its liberal teachings and his belief that all liberals should be killed because they were ruining the country, and that he felt that the Democrats had tied his country’s hands in the war on terror and they had ruined every institution in America with the aid of media outlets.”

Adkisson said that “he could not get to the leaders of the liberal movement that he would then target those that had voted them in to office.”

Inside the house, officers found “Liberalism is a Mental Health Disorder” by radio talk show host Michael Savage, “Let Freedom Ring” by talk show host Sean Hannity, and “The O’Reilly Factor,” by television talk show host Bill O’Reilly.==Adkisson is Chuckie's kind of terrorist. A "good American" fascist all the way.

I just checked in for a minute after watching a great Big 10 Championship. Poor, Iowa. They met their match with the Michigan State Spartans.

In other news:

As if all the Right Wing terrorism isn't enough to show the world America's shameless far Right, Texas Tea-Publicans are proving who really hates America.

A proposal to put Texas secession to a non-binding vote in March passed a state GOP committee vote in Austin on Friday afternoon, clearing the way for a vote Saturday by the Party's full executive assembly, party officials reported

Dave, if they played that game again tomorrow Iowa would probably win. And the next day it might be Mich State again. Met their match? Well, if you mean the teams were pretty much equals, yes. But it was hardly a blowout.

Other than that, all I can say is that conservatives can stop making excuses and passing the buck The blood is on THEIR hands.

I think its great that the neighbor to the husband and wife Jihadis in San Bernadino stood up for social justice and against racial profiling by not reporting their unusual behavior just prior to the attack on the Christians at their holiday party.

"We need to came face-to-face with some extremely unpleasant realities: A people who live in a chronic state of mortal terror - wondering when and where the next massacre of innocent little boys and girls will take place - may indeed be many things (no argument there!) "Free" they are not."

When will we come face-to-face with the extremely unpleasant reality of 500 black on black murders in Chicago this year?

Oh, I forgot, Chicago is one of the large Liberal Plantations that has been run by the Democrats for decades. Lets sweep the unpleasant facts under the rug. It is not PC to talk about it.

The leftists most cherished goal is to institute "hate speech" laws here in the US like they have in Europe and Canada, to intimidate white people and shut us up. The key freedom we have is free speech. Once that is gone, we will lose the rest of our freedoms one by one.

The left hates freedom, period. They hate freedom because freedom leads to "inequality". That is because people are not all the same. The ones who have more intelligence, more energy, will simply achieve more than the average. The goal of the leftists is to impose equality by any means possible, and take away whatever they feel is "excess" wealth from the successful, and distribute it to the "less privileged".

Leftists are the enemy of human freedom, and they must be resisted, by armed force if necessary. And sooner or later, it will be necessary. The hate which is at the core of the leftist mentality never ends. Just look at some of Dave Dubya's foaming at the mouth rants to those who do not agree with him. Look at all the people who participate on his blog now LOL! They no longer post because they know he is a dictator like Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez.

" if you gave a shit about the kids AFTER they were born and BEFORE they were eligable for the military.".

Well Mozart I DO give a shit, I am a state licensed foster parent working through Bethany Christian Services. I foster parent: ie care for new borne whose mothers chose not to murdered them, until their adoption paper work is competed and the adoptive parents can take custody of the living human being.

I pay income taxes to the Local, State and Federal govt from which the funding for healthcare, education, the environment and the national security comes from. (Something close to 50% of Americans do not pay Federal INCOME taxes to the federal govt, so I'm carrying their share, are you, dirt bag?)

And as for the remembering of the military, I am a volunteer at the USO in my city and have volunteered over 550 hours in the last 13 months serving the needs of our traveling military members. FOR FREE, ass wipe, I dont ask for nor do I get a dime, shit for brains!! UNDERSTAND you thick headed Iowa hick? I do it out of gratitude for their sacrifice. What do you do for them? Burn the flag they have fought to defend and the nation it represents? Don't even try to LIE about your service in the military. I've seen your photo, it's under the definition of 4 F. Still got your draft card. or did you burn it before you fled to Canada?

Have you read all of this? DID you read my post of 3:37? Do you comprehend it? Is it starting to sink in that you haven t a clue about me? Or for that matter 99% of conservatives? That you are a liberal BIGOT?? That you stereotype?

I hope so cause it's pompous liberal dick heads like you who are destroying this country with your whining about the rich and pretend worrying about the poor and pushing for open borders and allowing in those who have sworn to murder you,(Gee, you DON'T live in a gun free zone do you? LOL!) while you whine about the Christians and Jews who have NEVER ONCE threatened you all the while you sit on your fat cottage cheeses filled, stinking, pimply fat ass, pick your nose, and auto manipulate to photos of Hillary Clinton.

Did you believe Obama when he said on 12/2/15 that ISIS was not an existential threat to America?

Did you believe Obama when he said if you liked your Dr you could keep them?

Do you have a "gun free zone" sign in your home's front window?

No wonder James Hansen said you weren't the sharpest pencil in the box!

Iowa hick!

Do you believe I posted this?

Actually deaths by guns has been steadily dropping for past 10 years (correction, deaths by guns have dropped 49% in the past 25 years), a fact that needs to be added to the mix of this conversation. Stopping the mfg of guns and then the repeal of the 2nd would reduce the number of guns in America. But if the governmentsays they can't round up 11 million illegals living here how can the round up all the guns?

What is clear to me is regardless who the killer is, mass murders are selecting areas to attack where they are safe I.E. Gun free zones.As much as this might offend some, that is the fact. Now with active radical Islamic terriost murders happening I think the question we should be asking is " how are our current gun controls making us safer" and is our Federal govt being honest with us in their ascessment of the radical Islamic terror threat domestically?

Do more PC laws make us safer?Do more Refugees from Muslim countries make us safer?Does our open southern border make us safer?Does doing away with the NRA make us safer?Does closing Gittmo make us safer?Does removing all firearms make us safer?

Again, the decline in murders outside of gun free zones must be evaluated. Why is it safer out side a gun free zone than with in one?

Chuckie/Just the Facts is a liar to the core. His racist hate and bigotry are sickeningly obvious. Can't you just picture him coddling a little black baby? LOL!!! What an asshole liar.

Too bad TP isn't following this thread so he could finally witness for himself how dishonest and hateful his fellow conservative really is. Of course the obvious isn't so obvious to true believers of the far Right.

These comments prove what a racist, extremist and liar he really is.

The leftists most cherished goal is to institute "hate speech" laws here in the US like they have in Europe and Canada, to intimidate white people and shut us up.

The ones who have more intelligence, more energy, will simply achieve more than the average.

Leftists are the enemy of human freedom, and they must be resisted, by armed force if necessary.

He is one step away from being a radical Right terrorist supporter to a terrorist himself.

His intense hate and lies are proof he is no Christian. He has no clue to how evil he really is. He is as "Christian" as his fellow racists and Klansmen.

Intelligence officials have determined that Islamic extremists have explored using the refugee program to enter the United States, the head of the House Homeland Security Committee said on Monday.

Rep. Michael McCaul (R-Texas) declined to go into detail about the determination, which the Obama administration has not announced publicly.

Yet the disclosure could add ammunition to critics of the White House’s refugee plans who have warned that the program is vulnerable to infiltration by adherents of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

Hey, Davy, you still support the Presidents refugee plan, his open borders plan, his refuge vetting plan?

If you do, then it is YOU who is the terrorist sympathizer, it is you who will not back up his claims by answering questions, it is YOU Davy who is the liar.

Is your home a "gun free zone Davy?

Now to the topic of this thread,

Actually deaths by guns has been steadily dropping for past 10 years (correction, deaths by guns have dropped 49% in the past 25 years), a fact that needs to be added to the mix of this conversation. Stopping the mfg of guns and then the repeal of the 2nd would reduce the number of guns in America. But if the governmentsays they can't round up 11 million illegals living here how can the round up all the guns?

What is clear to me is regardless who the killer is, mass murders are selecting areas to attack where they are safe I.E. Gun free zones.As much as this might offend some, that is the fact. Now with active radical Islamic terriost murders happening I think the question we should be asking is " how are our current gun controls making us safer" and is our Federal govt being honest with us in their ascessment of the radical Islamic terror threat domestically?

Do more PC laws make us safer?Do more Refugees from Muslim countries make us safer?Does our open southern border make us safer?Does doing away with the NRA make us safer?Does closing Gittmo make us safer?Does removing all firearms make us safer?

Again, the decline in murders outside of gun free zones must be evaluated. Why is it safer out side a gun free zone than with in one?

I also noticed that NO ONE is talking abut the several "Christian" mass murderers now that there is a (GASP!) "mooslum" killer out there. Forget about the gun l;aws that allwed them to buy their weapons legally, even though they were on a terrorst "watch list".

Go figure. Conservatives never take responsibility. Like how they refuse to admit that the faked video they promoted all over the place CAUSED the shootings at Planned Parenthood.

They do not make us LESS safe, and they DO show we are the country we claim to be.

Does our open southern border make us safer?

Given that more people have been deported under OBama than any GOP president, and given that the border is no more "open" now than it was under Bush, I can again say 1T DOESN'T MAKE US LESS SAFE. Especially since the more imminent threat to Natinal Security comes from WHITE conservative "Christian" gun nuts. Does doing away with the NRA make us safer?

Yes, it would since they are the ones proming selling guns to ANYONE.

Does closing Gittmo make us safer?

Did have it open make us safer? NO.

Does removing all firearms make us safer?

NO ONE SERIOUSLY wants to remove ALL firearms, but then you'd have to ask the victims and families of Columbine, Sandyhooh, the Denver theater, the people at PLanned parenthood and the latest "mass shooting".

There I answered, now can you stop postinig them? They are dumb questions anyway.

Here's a surprising result: Republican Janice Frey Van Ness won a special election runoff Dec. 1 in Georgia's 43rd state Senate district. The surprise is that this is a district whose population is 61 percent black and voted 72 percent for Barack Obama in 2012. It covers suburban territory southeast of Atlanta, including most of Rockdale County, a small part of DeKalb County and part of Newton County. This is an area of rapid population growth, with a growing population of middle-income black homeowners.

Does this mean that middle-income blacks are trending Republican? Maybe, maybe not. Van Ness undoubtedly benefited from local ties: a small business owner and found of a private school, she was elected to the Rockdale County Board of Commissioners in 2006 and 2010. Turnout was low and she probably benefited from personal ties. But it does suggest that in the post-Obama years more black voters than in the past may be willing to give serious consideration to Republican candidates.

And the total dead from these mass murderers, all of which happened after 9/11 (dont think so) are more that what just happened in CA?

Since it's happening ALL the time, surely someone like your self Mozart who tries to read at least 6 different newspapers a day can tell us more. (notice, no excuse offered on my part, just you need to back your claims with facts or you are also a liar)

Here's something interesting for you Mozart,Remember that great Iran Nuke deal (a.k.a. peace in our time, 1.2) that Kerry and Obama hammered out?Guess what the Iranians are breaking the agreement.

"Iran has carried out a new medium range ballistic missile test in breach of two United Nations Security Council resolutions, a senior U.S. official told Fox News on Monday.

Western intelligence says the test was held Nov. 21 near Chabahar, a port city in southeast Iran’s Sistan and Baluchestan Province near the border with Pakistan. The launch took place from a known missile test site along the Gulf of Oman.

The missile, known as a Ghadr-110, has a range of 1,800 – 2000 km, or 1200 miles, and is capable of carrying a nuclear warhead. The missile fired in November is an improved version of the Shahab 3, and is similar to the precision guided missile tested by Iran on Oct. 10, which elicited strong condemnation from members of the U.N. Security Council.

“The United States is deeply concerned about Iran's recent ballistic missile launch," Samantha Power, U.S. Ambassador to the U.N., said in a statement after the last Iranian ballistic missile test in October.

President Obama mentioned the Iranian missile test during a press conference on Oct. 16 and said the United States was preparing to brief the U.N. sanctions committee. He added that it would not derail the nuclear deal.

"I think what we'll be doing is we'll review, as we have in the past, any violations of U.N. resolutions, and we'll deal with them much as we have in the past,(IN OTHER WORDS I'LL DO NOTHING") Obama said of the October incident.

I feel so much more safe with our commander and chief in complete control of world events, he is making the world love us again, sigh.

Hurry up NOV 2016.

Do you accept the blood of millions of baby's that your rabid support of abortion has shed?

Davy claiming that I agree with Trump is another example of his ad hominem method of debate. Let's see what he does if I use the same methodSo Davy we all know you are commie loving Muslim. Have you got your sickel and hammer lights up yet? Just as he can not list the right wing terror groups he claims are such a threat to America, neither can he support his latest lie about me. Dave is a liar

We all know Davy has nothing except accusing those who disagree with him to be either Nazis or klansmen. I got just one question for him that all of us would like to hear his answer

Another boring banal low IQ post from our resident neurotic. With so many dangerous and interesting things going on in the world, this blog gets dumbed down with useless and endless shitty comments from a political dimwit.

Just a few hours before President Obama gave his Oval Office address to the nation about gun control and his plans to contain ISIS, CNN´s Sunday morning Inside Politics panel absolutely destroyed his narrative and rush to judgement when 14 people were killed by jihadists last week in San Bernardino. Longtime CNN anchor John King called the President "deeply out of touch," argued he should be taking a tougher tone and slammed the administration for failing to mention Islamic extremism as part of the problem. Other panelists piled on Democrats as a whole for being all over the map

An email recently obtained by Judicial Watch shows that the Pentagon was demanding Hillary allow them to send help to Benghazi during the 2012 attack. This would completely contradict the claim from Hillary and Leon Panetta that no forces were available and within reach to provide help to the compound that was under siege.

Good Lord. I checked back in expecting perhaps a Christmas miracle of a civilized debate. Evidently that is not ever going to be the case. There are some individuals that should be damned ashamed of their epithets and juvenile name calling here. I won't mention names, as you SHOULD all know whom you are.

For the record, Mr. Dubya, I condemn all of those events and the evil people responsible for them. Too bad ALL Americans cannot condemn all such acts regardless of the perpetrators skin color, faith, or political ideology. You would think that would be something that is easy for us all to agree upon. Instead we all just point out the other side's transgressions and mitigate or make excuses for ours.

Guess I am off again to search for a blog with civil opposing debate on issues. Evidently Tom's blog is not that place.

I know you acknowledge and condemn Right Wing Terror. As a Republican shill, your pal Chuck must deny all evidence of this. He wants to be a voice of his party, so he is reflecting the soul, or lack thereof, of his party.

"Just the Chuck" demanded a list of Right Wing acts of terror, so I kindly provided some. He dismisses West Point and law enforcement facts on the matter as "politically motivated".

Right as if he isn't? Now you know why we call it projection.

Mr. Just the Facts/Chuck Morre was caught with identical posts under the two names.

a. since 9-11 there have been more Americans killed by right wing terrorists that Islamic terrorists

b. the list of the over 750 right wi9ng terror groups you claim are a threat to all of us.

TP you want a civil post here's mine from a while back before Davy interjected his evil presence

Actually deaths by guns has been steadily dropping for past 10 years (correction, deaths by guns have dropped 49% in the past 25 years), a fact that needs to be added to the mix of this conversation. Stopping the mfg of guns and then the repeal of the 2nd would reduce the number of guns in America. But if the governmentsays they can't round up 11 million illegals living here how can the round up all the guns?

What is clear to me is regardless who the killer is, mass murders are selecting areas to attack where they are safe I.E. Gun free zones.As much as this might offend some, that is the fact. Now with active radical Islamic terriost murders happening I think the question we should be asking is " how are our current gun controls making us safer" and is our Federal govt being honest with us in their ascessment of the radical Islamic terror threat domestically?

Do more PC laws make us safer?Do more Refugees from Muslim countries make us safer?Does our open southern border make us safer?Does doing away with the NRA make us safer?Does closing Gittmo make us safer?Does removing all firearms make us safer?

Again, the decline in murders outside of gun free zones must be evaluated. Why is it safer out side a gun free zone than with in one?

Mozart,The troll has no shame, as well as no honesty, no decency, and above all, not a trace of Christian behavior or words. In other words, a good con-servative Republican hypocrite.

Chuckie's racism cannot even see the Charleston church massacre for what it was. That terrorist echoes Chuckie's and the far Right's unified totalitarian goal of wanting "their country back". And they don't mean equality and democracy.

The hood fits.

His words:

“The leftists most cherished goal is to institute "hate speech" laws here in the US like they have in Europe and Canada, to intimidate white people and shut us up.

The ones who have more intelligence, more energy, will simply achieve more than the average.

Leftists are the enemy of human freedom, and they must be resisted, by armed force if necessary.”

Here he echoes the terrorist Adkisson.

Yes, the hood fits, as well as the swastika, as made glaringly clear in his Mini-Mein Kampf.

Mozart, you really are a dumb Iowa hick aren't you?Davy's claim has been SINCE 9/11. McVeigh was BEFORE 9/11Clue less + dull pencil = Mozart

Davy, you are a liar. A good socialist Libtard.There you go again putting words that I have not said into my mouth.I am sick of defending myself against your lies.List the killings by extreme right wingers of Americans since 9/11. It's your claim, it's your statement that they have killed more Americans that Muslims have. Now put up or shut up.

In 2007 there were 5,000,000 Moslems in the United States. It is now almost a decade later, but let's work with that number.

Let's say ONLY 10% are textual literalists (believing that the Koran was delivered, verbatim, directly from their god Allah to their prophet Mohammed, the "perfect man"), and the other 90% do not believe this, but still identify as Moslem.

That extremely conservative analysis would mean there are 500,000 textual literalists in the United States.

Now, let's say ONLY 10% of those are jihadists--(i.e., Moslems who are textual literalists who also are willing to act on the Islamic commands by carrying out attacks against non-Moslems), while the other 90% do not accept Islamic jihad against non-Moslems, but still identify as Moslem.

That still equals 50,000 Moslem jihadists in the United States, which is 1,000 Moslem jihadists PER STATE.

Going further ... Let's suppose only 10% of those 50,000 Moslem jihadists are absolutely NOT willing to take the chance of going to hell for disobeying the Koran (and the other 90% of the jihadists also don't want to go to hell, but are too afraid to act or have some other reason not to).

That's still 100 committed Moslem jihadi fighters PER STATE.

Then let's say the FBI can somehow identify and round up half of those 100 per state. What do we end up with? We have 50 committed jihadis PER STATE, willing and ready to "bring it" to the American "infidel."

Let's say that of those 50 per state, "ready and willing to bring it" (and not caught by the FBI), half of them goof up and/or abandon their plans. Thats still 25 fighters per state, or EIGHT three-man jihad teams per state.

Then finally, what if it turns out that only FOUR ready-to-go 3-man teams (half of the actual number ready and willing) are "successful" at launching? That's FOUR TEAMS PER STATE, seeking target-rich zones for their jihad.

Anybody concerned?

Not Obama, apparently. He's bringing another 200,000 Syrians (not Christian, not Yazidi) here. Doing the same math, one comes up with a significant number of Syrian fighters.

A prominent Democratic congresswoman and Senate candidate said that up to 20 percent of Muslims want to establish an Islamic caliphate and would use "terrorism" to achieve that goal.

Rep. Loretta Sanchez said Muslims seeking a caliphate are willing to use terrorism and violence to impose their views on the Western world.

“We know that there is a small group, and we don’t know how big that is — it can be anywhere between 5 and 20 percent, from the people that I speak to — that Islam is their religion and who have a desire for a caliphate and to institute that in any way possible," Sanchez said on "PoliticKING with Larry King."

“They are not content enough to have their way of looking at the world, they want to put their way on everybody in the world,” she said. “And again, I don’t know how big that is, and depending on who you talk to, but they are certainly — they are willing to go to extremes. They are willing to use and they do use terrorism.”

A yearlong investigation by the House Armed Services Committee has concluded that the Obama administration broke the law in swapping five Taliban members for Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl — and went out of its way to hide the negotiations as they were happening.

The report said the administration broke a law requiring it to give members of Congress 30 days’ advance notice of any detainee transfers from the Guantánamo Bay detention facility, where the senior Taliban leaders were held.

It also found that it misled reporters and lawmakers about a potential prisoner exchange. Congress was instead notified just hours before the May 2014 transfer took place.

I posted this piece on the Hudson Valley Craigslist and just received this reply:

"This tomdegan! The drivel that drips out of his sheep mind!OOOOOH!Newtown tragedy! Another main steam media fed sheep trembling as he replays Grinnin Gene over and over in his feeble mind. Have you stopped to consider the FACTS about the Newtown Debacle?No kids died,no teachers harmed,no Lanza deaths. Sounds cliche, but WAKE UP!Get on YOUTUBE and explore the alternatives to the mainstream media's portrayal of events and at least entertain some of the theories(yes theories) put forth by minds of people(not sheeple) who doubt such elaborate fantasies! Explore the video evidence of people walking in circles,milling about for the sake of the camera.NO helicopters were called,no EMTs allowed onsite.Police pronounced everyone DOA and let the alleged victims lie prone until dark. Who paid for the Visitors Must Sign In Roadsign?Who distributed colorcoded nametags? Just another FEMA drill with a twist and everyone from Obama to the Gov. played along.Chippin away at the 2nd Amendment.Type a little LOUDER tomdegan!You gointo have a blog on the BOSTONBOMBING BAMBOOZLE? 4th amendment on the block there.Just get over to youtube.Thats the last avenue to the truth available to us. If you believe what the TV network news tells you then you are doomed."

Save your tears. Americans love carnage and death. Bloodthirsty Americans could have stopped this needless killing long ago, but they love their killings and watching the blood run on the news everyday.