What you really, really, really, really, really want to know is WHEN, GOOGLE, WHEN? And that answer is coming soon, sooner than you think. We've come across some information that we've no reason to doubt that tells us pre-orders should be open tomorrow, September 29th. You won't be waiting long after Google announces the phone to be able to start throwing money at your screen.

As for the amount of money to be thrown at said screen, we're expecting the Nexus 5X to start at $379.99. That's most probably for the 16GB version of the phone. The 32GB option should be more expensive. Official color denominations will be Carbon, Quartz, and Ice Blue.

The pre-orders will only be available on the Google Store, not in carrier stores, that's what we're hearing, and for the Nexus 5X, they'll be live in the US, UK, Korea, Japan, and Ireland. Yeah, I see no Canada in that list. That's... weird. Maybe our friends in the Great White North will have to wait a bit to get their hands on the least expensive of the two Nexuses.

Comments

Yes, I was waiting for the great leak today.
But we still don't know if the 32GB version will have 3GB of RAM. I know, it's not easy.. but I still hope it's going to happen.

osgoodschlotter

$379 for no OIS camera, no wireless charging, 2GB RAM, no MicroSD, and only 16 GB ram?

Cripes... what a let down.

Akshay Sharma

16 GB RAM?

osgoodschlotter

meant "internal storage." mah bad.

Dillon Shepherd

Moto X Pure is looking beautiful right now

Mario Clemons

16 and 32 gig? Really? Yeah I see a Nexus boycott in the foreseeable future. Looks like I may be getting a moto x after all.

charged99

that is if you want a Man Purse to carry it with you. I mean Bigger is not always better! pretty soon women will be lined up to have EX (S) with horses. since bigger is always better.

aenews

People have these things called pockets where phones can be placed.

charged99

U need some huge azz pockets........... for that Tablet... I mean aka Moto X Pure in addition where are you going to put that phone in your car? it's not going to fit in the holder... LOL.

aenews

They easily fit in normal pockets. Hell I can fit a 7-Inch Tablet in my pockets although it's a tight and uncomfortable fit. You're completely trolling since the majority of major flagships are all around this size.

FQ2

Unless you wear women's skinny jeans with fake pockets, a phone even as big as the nexus 6 will fit easily. Don't be ridiculous.

fitnesspro22

That is durt cheap. And it will be with 3 G's .

Arcendus

... Do people really care about wireless charging? At the moment it's just a novelty - not an efficient way to charge your phone.

I use wireless every night for my Nexus 5. It charges equally as fast as my wife's Nexus 5 with wired charging.
Wireless is more convenient in many ways, I can one handed plop it down, slide it and the magnet keeps it in the right position.

osgoodschlotter

It's not terribly efficient, but it's incredibly convenient.

Dan Wilczynski

I use a wireless charger every day at work, it sits on my desk and as I come in out often, I can easily charge my phone without stressing the USB port and messing with a cable. It's absolutely useful.

Price point is decent but no SD card slot, 2GB RAM, starting storage of 16GB, and not available through the carrier are all nad punches.

mickeyB88

Haha no way. Almost 400 for a mid-range device. That's crazy.

TheAtomicBrainFart

How is it mid range???

Mayoo

2GB RAM alone cuts it middle range.

cdm283813

I agree. The Pure is the better deal spec wise minus the usb-c and finger print reader. $350 tops but it should have been $300.

mothergoose85

The XPE does look even better now doesn't it? More kit, more flexibility etc.

However, I wouldn't write off the camera yet - the megapixel war is utter rubbish. Apple prove time and again that a good sensor with good optics gives you great results. I've been using the 6S+ at work since we got it on Friday and I am absolutely astounded at the camera on it, the pictures are incredible. It easily bests the Galaxy S6 (we took them both out for a night out, the 6S+ at night...staggering), but is "only" 12mp. Not that I think the camera in the 5X is going to in that league of course, I just don't think it's going to be crap.

mickeyB88

A sensor means nothing if the software is absolute garbage. Samsung and Apple have very good processing software, but Google can't license that stuff for the Nexus phones so they're stuck with whatever they develop...and with the new Google Camera app coming out soon it better be good.

mothergoose85

Agreed, wholeheartedly. The current app isn't so bad but I do understand exactly what you're saying.

The HTC M9 is a good example of how big an affect the software can have!

ROB

Not worried about the RAM.. it's that battery that I don't like

Zach Mauch

That is one spec. Across the board it is so much more than that. Very High-End camera, USB Type-C, 64-Bit SOC, Fingerprint scanner.

Post a screenshot of your device fully utilizing every single ounce of RAM - if it does, then you may keep this post up.

Cakefish

Your evidence of this is...? Can the original Nexus 5 run everything modern Android has very smoothly? The answer is yes, yes it can.

dsp4

Even the Nexus 4 is still quite potent.

Itchy_Robot

What the heck are you talking about? My 3 year old S3 still runs everything I throw at it

YOTOPRULES .

my mum has an s3 and it hardly runs anything, it is absoulutely crap. very disappointed with it. i had to install a custom rom to make it usable.

aenews

Slower than last year's Nexus 6. With "only" 2GB RAM, it is clearly mid-range with a slower SoC and less RAM than last year's model. You're obviously right it has some flagship features and the new and upcoming USB Type-C Standard. IMO a good mid-range phone for the price if you need a smaller phone specifically.

Cakefish

RAM isn't the only factor in how premium a device is.

Mr james bunt

U need to know that the Nexus use a pure android interface compared to other manufacturers such as LG /Samsung . That's why you don't need a very high ram as you might not even gonna touch the maximum of 2GB in Nexus phones . Plus this is not even mid range . It has a 1080p screen powered by a Snapdragon 808 that is found in the G4 . The same computing power that powers the G4 1440p screen is now reduced to 1080p thus increasing battery life and better cpu performance.
About me : Owns several android phones and I phones includes :iphone 5s , 6 , LG G4 , LG G2 , S4 , S6 , Note 2 &Note 4 (some of it )
Builder of custom PC .

Quint’s Sharking & Seashells

Which makes the Moto X PE even more appealing with 3gb of ram, and it's lack of an android skin.

mickeyB88

Plastic build, mediocre camera, pathetic storage options, 2Gb of ram. The only thing that identifies it as more than mid-range is a fingerprint scanner, SD808 and USB-C.

No OIS, and it's a nexus. It won't even be close to being a contender.

bobEveryman

x pure has no OIS either :(

mothergoose85

I was reading on XDA that the 6P will have OIS, here's hoping! I bet the 5X won't though, they need to come some benefits for the larger model other than just premium materials and bigger screen.

jonathan3579

That'd be might Apple-like of them. :/

mothergoose85

It's a good business model though, you can't expect top flight features like that and not pay a premium. Take the OnePlus - it's cheap, has a shit tonne of features, but it doesn't have the absolute best of anything, it has very good stuff (that is incredible at the price) but there's scope for it to be better in most places (some of this is person opinion so I appreciate that's different for everyone). Personally, I don't mind paying more if I'm getting more (which is as it should be).

I'm glad Google is releasing a more "mainstream" device at a lower price point, and a premium device at a higher one. That's a much better compromise than the iPhones.

The Canon 50mm f1.2 L, as well as most high end, professional prime lenses, do not have IS either - your point?

Nicholas B Scott

Uh, laser auto focus and a 5mp front snapper. Yeah ok.

ROB

battery?

dsp4

Plastic definitely doesn't make any phone midrange. The metal vs plastic thing is pure aesthetics.
The camera is mid-range, and the storage options are plenty enough. My 16GB phone is half-full. I'll probably get the 32GB model for futureproofness, but I'm still wondering what the extra 16gb will be used for.
2GB of ram is definitely low-end though. Cheap phones from three years ago had 2GB.

Cakefish

Low end phones in 2015 have 1GB.

Cakefish

Some people like the soft touch plastic on the Nexus 5.

Cakefish

Mid-range is the Moto X Play. This isn't mid range.

Quint’s Sharking & Seashells

It's mid range only in price, but it feels/acts like a flagship...for me at least. It's not the best at any one thing, but it handles a lot of things very well.

Peter Iles

Why would I get that when I can get an X Pure for $20 more?

TheAtomicBrainFart

Because Nexus, and they're roughly the same specs.

AP

Motorola is rarely far behind on updates and sometimes ahead. The Moto X Pure has 3go of RAM and a better camera, a better screen, a SD card slot, do I need to continue?
379$ is not the right price for those specs.

TheAtomicBrainFart

Wait for it to come out. With the camera you are straight up talking out of your ass. We don't know how it performs.

Not when you can get something like the Moto G for $220. The only things you're adding to the G are biometrics, and NFC.

TheAtomicBrainFart

Uh, Snapdragon 808 vs 410 is quite a big difference as well.

aenews

There's a night and day difference...

bobEveryman

What would your price for the 5x be?

Me

I figured $350 so not too far off. If OP2 had better support it be a easy buy over this.

bobEveryman

I'd rather the OP2 had NFC, as I enjoy using Google Wallet. I also use wireless charging on my n5, but with so many phones omitting that particular feature, that's not as big of a differentiating factor as I thought it would be this year.

aenews

Well the North American Warehouse is in CA. If you have a serious defect, you could probably just ship it there for a return after talking to support. Yeah even OnePlus admitted their support stinks in the Reddit AMA but not really a big deal IMO. You also have an entire dedicated OnePlus Forum.

379.99$ ... wow such an insult to everyone. I mean, it's a good device but it's nowhere near that price.

wingzero0

Its less than the Moto XPE...

Marikel

Yes, by $20 lol. Add $20 and you get a higher resolution display, a potentially better camera, and a microsd card slot. So. Yeah.
Edit: plus extra gb of RAM

yeah right

oh and you get less performance, slower updates, a potentially worse screen because the calibration is off. and a harder to hold form factor.

Daniel Kirkpatrick

ahah go troll somewhere else

Grayson

The Moto X Pure screen calibration is not off. Previous Moto phones had terrible calibration, but the Pure now has a display setting to switch between accurate and vibrant calibrations and the accurate mode makes the colors match my 2015 Macbook Pro 15" Retina almost exactly, and this laptop is know for it's great color accuracy out of the box.

rattrick1

And a 5.7" screen, which is too big for most.

aenews

Depends entirely on bezels... 5.5-Inch to 5.7-Inch is pretty standard these days for many flagship phones.

AxemRed

For a smaller phone, 1080 is preferable. 1440 uses more resources and power, for questionable gains. I'm not convinced 1440 is discernible on a screen smaller than 5.5".
Also at this point, either phone has a potentially better camera. The Nexus has less MP, but it is thought to have OIS.

yeah right

how do you figure this? the Moto X Play is $299 at 16gb has an s615 a potentially worse camera considering this has PDAF and OIS. On top of that this is in a smaller more compact form factor with what would most likely be a more accurate and color calibrate screen. Yet the X play is considered a deal and this isn't? you are insane

EDIT: i forgot, this also has a fingerprint scanner.

The only spec this is short of is the battery mah, and who knows considering everything in it is likely to more efficient than the s615 that point may be moot.

James Philippon

He means pure edition ya twat.

Mayoo

When did I say the X play was considered or not a deal? I am strictly talking about the N5x sir.

bobEveryman

A good deal is only relative to other options. Please list your other better deals.

Edit: replying to wrong person!

Ben

The OnePlus Two is essentially the same price, has 64GB of storage and significantly better specs and build quality.

jonathan3579

Hahaha hahaha. That's a good one.

Me

It does tho. :/

Ben

The fact remains, even if you think oneplus is a joke or that it's a bad phone for other reasons, the oneplus two is substantially better value than the 5X.

better specs? doesn't have a good camera according to reviews due to latency issues, the difference between 808 and 810 is relatively small. Doesnt have NFC standard, we dont know the wireless charging situation here either. and even though the build quality is higher it still looks worse.

Me

OP2 camera is solid. Just needs software updates.

Ben

It has DOUBLE the RAM. The difference between the 808 and 810 is bigger than you think, the OPT is one of the fastest phones around and the 808 is outdated.

Wireless charging is unlikely because it hasn't been leaked yet and the camera on the OPT is good, it's only the shutter speed which is bad and will be likely fixed in an OTA. This phone looks a lot worse for the price than the OPT.

thebeast_3

Apparently shutter speed was greatly improved in the OxygenOS 2.1 update. And manual controls were implemented.

aenews

810 is more than a generation ahead of the 808. The Camera is pretty good. The negative reviews are based on the stock Camera App. Use a professional Camera App like Camera FV-5 with maximum quality settings to achieve better results. Lack of NFC is an extremely oddball decision, but not a priority for me. I usually disable NFC to prevent wakelocks (however few there may be). You can add wireless charging to any phone with a removable back if you really want it. Only issue here is USB Type-C. Need a new accessory to get around that. Aesthetics are relative. IMO best looking flagship on the market rn.

Mayoo

No, a good deal is looking at the specs and judging if it's worth it. I don't care about other models. I won't pay 507.84 CAD (for me) for a 16GB, 2GB RAM model when I paid 380 CAD for the N5 which still works like a charm (comparing specs).

WitnessG

Google seriously screwed the pricing of the 5X. The 32gb version of the 5X will be anywhere between 400-429. For 70-100 more you could get the 6P which will be better in every aspect. 5X. The 2014 N6 is a better deal than the 5X at the $350 price. The G4 at TMobile is $480, which comes with LG's camera software making it one of the best cameras on the market, removable battery, sd slot, and a better display.

Cakefish

Some folks don't like big phones. 6P is a big phone.

thomasguide2

Some people don't want to have tablets as phones. These things are just getting too big. 4.5in to 5.2in are good sizes.

Cakefish

Well the Moto X Play does have PDAF but I agree with your comment.

Saad Naeem

I know that specs don't tell the whole story but I don't see myself paying $379 for a phone with 2GB RAM & 16GB storage when I can get 4GB RAM & 64GB storage at the same price or much less.

Mayoo

Exactly. 2GB RAM might do fine for a few months, but in two years? Not so sure ...

wingzero0

Nice. The 6P should be around the $500 price point!

If so, I won't have to fight with all the cheapskates to order one.

jonathan3579

You and me both. Look at all the people bitching about this cheap price.

wingzero0

Exactly!

This is why the perception that Android users are all cheap continues to exist. My lord, some of these people need to go back to using flip phones if they can't afford these devices.

Last time I checked, Google wasn't in the business of giving away phones for free.

WitnessG

I don't think anyone is being a cheapskate. Relative to other phones on the market, the 5X is overpriced. Why would anyone pay 380 bucks for it when you could get something way better for a 70 bucks more.

wingzero0

Because something different isn't going to have stock Android and timely updates.

Defenestratus

I think you're living a lie.

You should seek professional help.

Its going to be $650 at least.

wingzero0

That's fine with me as well. Still won't have to fight with the people who can't afford one.

No professional help needed at all it seems. I'll send the doctor your way though. ;-)

usaff22

So Nexus 6 2014 it is. The only thing its missing in my eyes is the first fingerprint reader.

Matthew DiGiacomo

Okay AP where is the 5X spec leak that the dude who leaked the 6P on Reddit said was coming?

Good_Ole_Pinocchio

Lol that same dude said he did NOT personally have the leak... So who knows

Matthew Gardner

No simultaneous Australian launch this year? The last few have come out at the same time. That said a staggered launch may help with availability, so there is that.

lil wayne

Yall heard the 6p will come with a micro SD??

Mayoo

Scroll down the AP news feed. Exacty one article down.

lil wayne

Alright thanks bro! Are u getting the 5x or 6p?

Mayoo

I'll be keeping my N5. N5x is not worth that price at all.

lil wayne

Man at least save up and get the 6p. Its really enticing .

Mayoo

Nice device, I hate the camera black bar thing but it's fixed with a case. But too big for me. Anyways, my N5 is still rock solid.

lil wayne

Alright then its ur final choice so I guess the n5 has served u well

teolinux

6p looks like Bender, the robot in futurama

teolinux

it won't it's just a flaw in FCC apllication

lil wayne

I guess so cus its odd

Andreu

380$ for 2G of RAM and 16 of ROM?? aahaahahaahahaahahaahha AHHAHAAHAHAHAAHA AHAAHHAAHAhahahahaahahahaaHH AHAHAHAAHAHAA

hunter:)

Do you even know what ROM is?

BillyGardiner

Do *you* even know what ROM is? ROM is Read Only Memory which is what is used in storage devices (SD cards, Thumb drives, etc.) today. Flash memory is a form of ROM known as EEPROM which is what is used in most modern electronics today.

Nes

Rekt.

hunter:)

Stop saying bullshit, ROM is not used in SD cards, thumb drives nor any flash memory device. Flash memory is a form of EEPROM, but EEPROM is not the same as ROM, that's like saying DDR is the same as GDDR.

BillyGardiner

I must have struck a nerve... A form of non-volatile memory is used in almost all electronics today. This non-volatile memory is ROM. Whether that ROM is EEPROM, Flash, PROM, etc, doesn't matter. They are all variants of a standard architecture. You can go look on the Wikipedia page for "Read-only memory" and you will find that it even references EEPROM when referring to endurance of ROM. ROM is switching transistors and that's it.

hunter:)

I know where you're coming from, but ROM strictly speaking is non-volatile memory that isn't designed to be erased or modified, EEPROM is a completely different animal, even if they share some parts of the name. In the industry you never mix Internal memory with ROM, as both refer to different things that are used for different purposes.

At an exchange rate of almost 1.1??? (Yeah yeah I know 20% VAT and all that).
If it is indeed £349 here, I for one am definitely not going to buy one on principle. (screwing on exchange rate principle)

I dont think $350 is unreasonable for this one. I am really interested in the 6P....that is what scares me. Feels like we are about to see another $600 price tag....I think Google is losing a committed Nexus buyer since the N4. =

I think the 379 is high, I just meant 350 would have been a better price.

JD

Good old Google treating Canada as a 3rd world country. At this rate why not just block out all Google Services for the hell of it.

Jiggs

I hope that means no more than £299 for the base model. :-/

Andreu

dude, this is the base model!

Jiggs

Can you see the difference between £ and $? AP mentioned the price in $.

Andreu

aw sorry man..I misread! anyway I doubt it'll cost that price in £

Andreu

that's a good price! Totally worth it!!!
Oh wait, are we not in 2012??

lil wayne

Nice!

Pootis Man

So this phone might just come with 2gb of ram and because of that it's automatically considered a mid range device from 2012. You people are unbelievable.

LOLWUT

Disqus is just cancer overall. This is the same community that immediately dissed Motorola just because the Moto X Pure's bootloader unlocking process voids the warranty. Even though the only reason these people do this is to root, which'll void that warranty anyway. No surprise there!

Robert Firestone

I unlock but I don't root

DirkBelig

Unlocking voids your Moto X Pure warranty as well. That, plus lack of fingerprint scanner and abysmal battery life (compared to OnePlus One and 2) and the non-MM constraints* of 16GB made the MXP a phone that lasted two days before I returned it.

* When MM allows you to whack in an SD card and format it to be a giant block of storage, that will be fine, but ATM I ran out of room and options to move apps within a day on the paltry 16GB version and this was a cut-down app set from what my OnePluses handle without a sweat.

aenews

Yep that's a good point though you could just buy the model with increased storage.

DirkBelig

Doesn't solve the other problems.

aenews

Yep

Me

Good ole Android community.

MJ

Your drunk... That was the point! It didn't on past Moto X Developer Editions which don't exist anymore so people expected the Moto Pure Edition to allow it. All Nexus phones allow root and some versions have even been sold retail in the past.

Sorry, rooting shouldn't void your warranty on any phone and it should have never been a taboo concept with mobile devices to begin with...

PaintDrinkingPete

But why should manufacturers/carriers be responsible to support your phone if you root it and then proceed to completely brick it because you have no idea what you're doing or they no longer have control over the software running on it?

It's this kind of attitude that forces OEMs and carriers to lock the devices down.

I do believe that it should be YOUR option to choose whether or not to root/unlock YOUR device, but I also have no problem assuming loss of warranty coverage because I've done so.

MJ

I blame our failing school systems on your reply... How the hell is Dell able to warranty their PCs (where the profit margin is actually thinner) when the user has admin rights and can install any software they want?

BillyGardiner

I'm just going to throw this in here for the debate. Dell is able to warranty because the warranty is on the *hardware*. In my opinion, phones should be the exact same way. We should be purchasing the *hardware* (and have a warranty on ONLY the hardware) and be able to have admin access to the software layer to load whatever we, as the user, wants. If you software brick your phone, it's your own fault and not something that should be warrantied. If the Micro USB port dies (regardless of what software is on the device), it should be warrantied and repaired.

MJ

Ummmm... That is exactly how phone warranties already work.

I am saying just the act of having root should not void the warranty.

BillyGardiner

Doesn't your first statement contradict the second? If the phone warranty is ONLY on the hardware already, then why would a software layer change affect the warranty. I think we agree that it shouldn't, but currently it does and that's the problem. These devices should be treated exactly like computers because that's all they really are.

MJ

What? Once again, I agree 100%.

aenews

Maybe he means that most vendors will still cover hardware defects with a theoretically voided warranty due to unlocking. Have an HTC One M7 bought used and clearly out of warranty with Unlocked Bootloader and S-OFF. The hardware defect was still covered. He's saying that Rooting "should not" void the warranty. OnePlus guarantees that any software modifications like using Custom Recoveries/ROM's/Kernels will not void the warranty BTW. And Unlocked Bootloader is a prerequisite to accomplish any of the above.

PaintDrinkingPete

I actually agree to a certain point, but the difference is that by rooting a phone you have the ability to affect kernel settings (over-clocking, etc), which can cause damage to the hardware.

The other difference is that in the case with Dell, they don't warranty the software, but in the case with Android phones, usually the OEM or carrier IS responsible for supporting the software, which further strengthens their argument for not allowing root access.

MJ

Once again, I am just saying you should be able to unlock and root your phone and not violate your warranty. What you do after that (yes) could violate the warranty.

What do you mean by software support? You can call Dell and they will offer basic support for Windows and the software configured on the PC. What software support do think the OEM or carrier offers? Restore to factory setting is about it.

iPhone_user1

Even the new iPhones come with 2gb of RAM, so for Android's standards, it's pretty mediocre. Let's hope the memory leak bug is fully fixed.

Pootis Man

You definitly provide a good point. As far as Android phones go 2gb is low for high end phones. Also if that memory leak still hasn't been completely fixed then multitasking is really going to be a pain.

True -- 2GB is not the end of the world, but it's about time to bump it up to 3GB, especially considering how friendly Android's multi-tasking system is.

Pootis Man

Yep. The strange thing about all this though is that it still hasn't been confirmed if this phone will have 2gb or 3gb of ram. I'm really hoping for the latter obviously.

thomasguide2

It's also about time they dropped 16gb storage.

Nicholas Conrad

Maybe; or just maybe they should put 16GB in all of their phones and give us an SD slot so we can pick our own storage size?

thomasguide2

That goes without saying, but having no sd card and only 16gb is an absolute deal breaker.

Mario Clemons

Well, they haven't done either of those things so the fact remains. They aren't progressing in terms of storage space.

Morlock

hear hear, with the amount of video, pictures, apps, and music people put ont heir phones 16gb is useless. and no everyone can depend on constantly uploading their pictures and listing to their music from the cloud.

marque2

Most people actually don't put that much on the phone. I use cloud forost of my photos and videos, and listen to.streaming music and watch streaming videos -or get a rental which only stays two days. I have yet to use the 16k on my Nexus 4. You might want more space for your purposes, but I think the average user who is not twelve uears old st doesn't have the phone loaded up that way.

Morlock

Some of us like keeping our media library local in case there is low or no signal. Some people, again Luke myself, have limited data plus so we can't stream content constantly, or upload everything to the cloud instantly.

I like having all my music with me, maybe some video files, on my phone in case I'm in a place with no WiFi. So yeah, it would be nice to have the option.

marque2

If want a phone with memory, go for it, but to support someone who wants to ban other peoples choices, because he/she has different preferences, or thinks he/she knows what is better for the rest us us is crazy. I don't need a phone nanny telling us all what we must buy whether we want to or not. Many, if not most people would do great with 16 gigs. And as relatively techy people neither my wife or I gave has issues with our 16 gig Nexus 4,5 respectively. And yes, we use plenty of apps, we just don't have constant need to have our tunes next to us.

Morlock

no one is banning anything. i'm saying that the standard should be 32gb - not more expensive. flash memory is less expensive, materials are less expensive, and they'd sell more phones. if you don't need the extra space thats cool - just like apple, they should increase the storage space size while keeping the same price point. then both the users like you AND me would be happy.

but a flagship phone that 1) can take 4k video and multiple 1080p photos, 2) have multiple apps that cache a ton of info, and 3) takes more and more space for the OS should just plain have more storage capacity at the lower end than five years ago.

Nicholas Conrad

Glad to know you don't actually do anything on your phone. Some of us like to. Who in this scenario sounds like the 12 year old I wonder?

marque2

You can buy what you want, but for some yahoo to say the 16 gig phone should be dropped for me, because he/she prefers more memory is ludicrous.

Nicholas Conrad

Almost as ludicrous as calling those with different preferences from your own names.

Matthew Wu

they needed some differentiation between the 5X and 6P...besides the obvious screen size

aenews

The Nexus 5X is slower than last year's Nexus 6. The Nexus 6P is more than a generation ahead of the 5X. That and the size should be enough differentiation. There may be more differences like RAM.

zAlbee

This is inaccurate. The SOC may be slower, but both Nexus 6 and 6P have QHD screens. They *need* more power than a 1080p phone just to provide similar performance. More pixels also means a larger framebuffer consuming RAM. Not saying that makes them equal, but there's definitely a good reason for the spec difference and I'll bet it's a lot closer than you imagine.

aenews

The Snapdragon 808 uses the Adreno 418 GPU while the Snapdragon 805 uses the Adreno 420 GPU. It's quite literally slower than last year's Nexus 6 and is clearly meant to be a competitive mid-tier smaller phone unlike the Nexus 6P. A higher resolution display does not necessarily mean reduced performance. Many high-end games have multiple resolution options for instance.

zAlbee

That's what I said. Slower in terms of number of pixels pushed, but not necessarily in framerate once you factor in resolution. And I have not seen any mobile games with this option, but then I don't really play games anymore.

aenews

BombSquad, Riptide GP2, GTA all have these options available for instance. Bombsquad literally has actual resolution options instead of a slider. Most serious games should have the option, so I wouldn't worry about reduced performance. If you are worried, buy a Snapdragon 810 Phone with a 1080P Display ;)

marque2

Nexus 5 shouldn't be slower, but I would not be surprised if it had fewer features, it costs half as much, and that is the reason I have a Nexus 4, a Nedus 5 bit not a Nexus 6. 6 was beyond my price range.

Fatal1ty_93_RUS

but why? They could put the same hardware into both phones and make them in two different screen sizes, and still sell them as different prices to cater to different demographics

Leandro Brandão

agreed. i have no problem right now with 2gb in my htc m8 gpe, but with 3gb it would probably be even better, days without reloading apps.

I'd definitely go for the Moto X Pure. It has some really nice features and is effectively the same in hardware specs.

ChrisI

Depends on the needs of 6.0 and the architecture it will run

Adam Acuo

The iPhone has 1GB. Hasn't stopped that from selling well.

Andreu

it's a mid range phone and that's a fact..2 giga of RAM was introduced in 2012 and was the standard in 2013 and (maybe) in 2014

Ivaylo Vasilev

They gave you top range phone last year " Nexus 6" did you bought it? Or you was complaining that it is priced to high?

Mark

yep. These types of people will call for a WEHmbulance no matter what.

Andreu

ahahaha if you say so

Andreu

I don't know why people here is so aggressive..I'm still with my Nexus 4, and NO, I'm not one of those that complained about the price of the N6, I did complain about the screen size (6 inches are simply too much for me)..

Bojan

That's what she said.

Vega007

That's what she NEVER said. Sorry.

YouNex

Thank you sir !
The Nexus 6's initial price was largely justified

aenews

It was pretty expensive but no other current-gen phone at the time was cheaper (Samsung Galaxy Note 4 & Motorola Droid Turbo).

thomasguide2

It was priced too high and now it is on clearance sale for $370 and I still don't want it. It's just too big.

aenews

Priced very high for a Nexus, but it wasn't more expensive than the other current-gen phones released at that time (Samsung Galaxy Note 4 & Motorola Droid Turbo)

Garrett Cooper

I didn't buy it because it was too big. If it was 5" I'd of bought one.

Renaldo Johnson

Seriously. There's so much carrier cruft on our phones - honestly, 3GB is NEEDED cause of Bloatware and Samcrap. And if the M Preview on the Nexus 5 is any indication, 2GB is going to be plenty - especially cause Android is targeting lower-ranged phones.

YouNex

Is targeting... And we're talking about Android, not Google...
Am I the only one who's continuously chocked by the enormous size that Google Apps have reached nowadays?

robert alexander

Very "chocked"

YouNex

That was à French typo :p

robogo

If only I hadn't already heard the exact same thing when Lollipop was launched.

Or KitKat.

aenews

That's true LOL. I have a friend who uses the Android M Preview on his Nexus 5, and he did indicate that it has better OOTB wakelock management than Lollipop. Overall said it was an improvement over Lollipop at the very least. Personally use AMPLIFY and GREENIFY on ALL my devices to optimize idle battery life in the first place however. Not sure if the entire wakelock management system has been revamped, but I'd hope so.

Colin Williams

But... This is a nexus device with Vanilla android, which therefore has no "SamCrap", as you so perfectly put it. But I'm glad you mentioned carrier bloatware, I forgot all about it.

But either way, this is was never a major contender. The 6P however... Different story. You folks are complaining about 2 GB of RAM, tbh I was hoping the 6P would have 4GB RAM like the note. Albeit the note needs it cause of TouchWiz, [duh] but still. It's between the note 5 and this for me.

aenews

Well to be fair, the Samsung Galaxy Note 5 has a much improved TouchWiz with minimal lag even less than many other flagships OOTB. They did do a good job improving the software at least.

Mario Clemons

16g and 32g options may be ok with you, but those space options for many people are antiquated at this point.

iPhone_user1

Yep. Pretty much midrange specs at a high price if you ask me. The Moto X is a much better deal.

jakefolk

The moto x is a better deal, I just don't want to carry around a phablet. I wish phone makers would realize there is a market for phones sized like the original moto x. That was great size.

bobododo

Apple has it figured out. If you look at the breakdown of preorders on the iPhone you'll see that the 6 model significantly outsells the 6+ in the US. Unfortunately LG, Moto, OnePlus and many others didn't get the memo on that and keep pushing out gigantic phones.

I expect Google to sell a good number of the 5X's if only for the fact that it is one of the few decent handsets that have come out lately that aren't humongous, hence they will have less competition in this screen size.

aenews

Well people into Apple aren't used to larger devices so that's biased. Apple only increased the size of its line-up to normal levels last year.

skeeterfood

All I want is a 5" 1080p Moto X Pure. Is that really too much to ask for?

mitchilin

379 dollars? So that will translate to 379 GBP. If rumour is correct I will pass at this price point.

Since the 16gb has gone up by $30 they'll probably add £30-£40 to the equivalent 2013 prices and call it a day.

Simon Mellins

Yep, I'm betting £319 and £359 for 16/32 respectively.

Generally Google do dollar price minus about 15% to get the GBP amount, but perhaps a little less this time now as the pound is stronger against the dollar than it was in October 2013. So I've done 15% then shaved off a little more to reflect the weak dollar.

power_pizza

Not Canada. Figures, we can't purchase the Moto X Style either. It's like their forcing us to to get skinned Android phones.

vomer

Looks like Motorola will be raking in some cash ;)

Defenestratus

So while I called everyone who complained about the Nexus 6 price a cheapskate, I actually have to agree with people complaining about this one.

$380 for what is essentially an Android One device is pretty silly.

wingzero0

You were right to call them cheapskates.

If they can't afford these prices, they should just move along. Its not as though Google needs them to buy. Others will.

Me

Wouldn't call them cheapskates if other devices offer better specs for a similar price.

aenews

Exactly. Though in this case, no other current-gen phone released at that time was cheaper than the Nexus 6 (Samsung Galaxy Note 4 and Motorola Droid Turbo). Literally only those phones.

I know Canada isn't listed, but just as a comparison point, it's $507.84 CAD ... for the base model ...

King_Android

Yea but blame that on the decline in the CAD. Its been tanking for the last few years now.

Mayoo

Even at 380$, it's a no-deal. At worse, I would pay 300$. At best, 200$. that RAM will last more than 2 years right? I think not.

King_Android

I agree its not worth the price. Especially when the S6 Edge or S6 which are superior phones are around d the same currently. Until The 820 comes out I'll just have to pass on this year crop of phones.

Same here, 2gb for 16gb model. Don't know if it will be 2 or 3 for the 32 model

Tr1n1ty86

No 5x and 6p for Italy? :/

Lexcyn

Canada may not be listed due to the dollar being so low here... maybe they are trying to figure out a price point? Unless they are just doing a straight conversion, I think it might end up being $499 here :(

You've posted three or more comments with things like " HAHAHAHAHA" etc.

Andreu

the first one was that one..I'm just arguing what I think and I'm saying real facts..it would be trolling if I was saying stupid things or things not true

Me

It's only 30 bucks lol.

BillyGardiner

$30 is nearly 10% of the purchase price. I think many of us would love to not spend an additional 10% for a device that is not high end.

Me

So you've used the device already?!?! What's the SOT time? Do earphones come in the box?

BillyGardiner

Are you sarcastically asking me that because I said it isn't a high end device? If that is the case then I'm just going to say that I think that the two phones (5X and 6P) should have been pretty identical. I think the 5X should have had an 810 and 3GB RAM at minimum. I can't speak to the case materials yet but I might have also preferred a metal body for that luxury feel. With all of those changes, I think the $380 is a better price.

And before you say "all of those increases would have cost them more than what the phone is worth" just think about the fact that they could have used the same manufacturer for both phones and would have been able to buy double the quantity of 810 and 3GB RAM chips yielding a lower overall BOM cost for both devices.

For only $120 more, you get everything I stated above and a bigger screen (in the 6P).

-Are there people that don't want a bigger screen? Certainly!

-Do I think they should be able to get the exact same phone as the 6P for ~$100-150 cheaper because of the smaller screen and battery? Definitely!

Is that what we got from the N5X? Not at all.

aenews

$30 more expensive for a last-gen SoC. You're missing the point. The 5X is slower than last year's Nexus 6. Despite the fact that the 5X has a mid-range SoC instead of the best available, it still costs 10% more than the previous N4/N5 generations. He's just saying that it isn't competitive pricing like Google used to do in the past.

Yeah, that would have been nice. I would have *loved* a Nexus "compact".

I was just pointing out the 808 is no slouch. With all the talk about 810s overheating, some people might feel better having an 808.

Andreu

Yes, I get your point..finally someone you can talk to without getting insulted or something! :)

aenews

The Snapdragon 808 (Adreno 418 GPU) is slower than last year's Snapdragon 805 (Adreno 420) let alone the current-gen Snapdragon 810. With proper thermal management, the 810 can definitely run cooler than you think. Depends on Google's implementation and heat management. No one should feel better with an 808 before release. Also if you disable a couple cores on the 810 then it effectively would become an 808 with a better GPU. Combine better heat management with proper software management and there should be little issue.

BillyGardiner

This is the same thing that I said the "Me" above.

For the price difference of $120, they should have had the same hardware and just been a 5" version and a 6" version. I think using two separate manufacturers screwed up their supply chain, as they could have had double the quantity of chips which would have reduced their BOM cost and allowed for better pricing. If they had done that, I think they could have hit $350 for N5X and $450 for N6P and really knocked it out of the park.

Andreu

that would have been way better! what you say could be right..unfortunately we'll never know..:)

zAlbee

All the people saying the 5X and 6P should have had the same internals are missing a huge point. GPUs and CPUs don't perform in a vacuum. They push pixels onto a screen. At 2560x1440, the 6P has 77% more pixels than the 1920x1080 of the 5X. Check any GPU benchmark and you'll see framerate drops every time you increase resolution.

Having the same SOC sounds good because you want the 5X, but think of it from the opposite standpoint. If you bought a 6P and it had the same SOC and cost $120 more, but performed *worse*? That would be a much worse proposition.

By the way, I would still get the 5X over the 6P.

Thera

Ouch... that price... It's a (really) mid range phone and shoudn't be higer than 300$. Android One for Occident People is expensive :(

Daggett Beaver

The market is limited to a bunch of "Pure Android" geeks. They can't make it up on quantity, so the price actually makes sense.

Nuno G.

And, auch... $550 or $600 at least for the new N6

bhsand

Crap! We need them in Norway. :/

What are my best non-Touchwiz alternatives to the 6P? Moto X Style? LG G4?

Ben

Don't get the G4, it's software skin is worse than TouchWiz

RedBeaVeR

Canada's not there coz Google's too ashamed to post the exchanged retail price in Canadian dollars........

People need to quit bitching about 2GB of RAM. The Nexus 5 uses less than 400MB for the system, my S6 uses 1.4GB! A Nexus phone will run fine with 1GB, let alone 2.

Andreu

so why the Nexus 6P has 3GB of RAM?

rattrick1

Good question. Probably to more justify the $500 price tag. Does anyone with a Nexus 5 use more than 2?

Cole C

It can't lol cuz it's only got 2 mwuhaha

Andreu

the thing is that right now 2GB of RAM are quite good, but not in the long run..I have to buy a phone that will assist me for at least 2.5 years, will 2GB be sufficient in 2017-2018? I doubt it, that's why I'm disappointed

rattrick1

Why don't you want and see how much free space the phone has before crying about it?

Andreu

aw sorry, I thought this was a honest and calm conversation..anyway I'm on a Nexus 4 and my 2GB of RAM are almost completely used..cheers

Ghost

Mine's only using 1.1GB right now. What's up with your N4?

Andreu

I use several apps in background..of course I'm not saying that my RAM is always full, but it often uses up to 1.4-1.5 GB and the phone gets laggy..again, I'm not saying that 2 GB is crap, I just want to say that they're not so much if I want to have a good experience for at least 2 years

Bob Omb

Will you stfu with all your posts about 2GB of ram, you sound like a complete idiot.

Andreu

well, I wrote 2 posts about RAM, if people anwer me I answer back..besides, I speak quietly and I argue my answers, you just insult..you sound to me like a complete ignorant

Daggett Beaver

LOL - you Nexus fanboys would defend it if it had 512 MB of RAM.

Bob Omb

Oh hey, it's you again, the guy who comes to bash every single nexus thread on this website. I'm sure everyone takes your opinion very highly.

aenews

Sounds more like you need better RAM management. You can adjust the built-in RAM Manager to be more or less aggressive which may alleviate your issue.

Also, I recommend Greenify to cut down on the applications running needlessly in the background.

Do you use Greenify in Root/Xposed Mode with the Donation Package? That's the way to go. I mean that Android's built-in RAM Manager can be tweaked. ROM Toolbox, for instance, has the options to change the parameters to be more or less aggressive. Many other apps also have the option.

Cub

It's not so much the RAM. It's the lack of a 64 gigabyte option.

I can live with two gigabytes of RAM for another couple years because I know stock Android doesn't use a ton of it. But I have two small kids and videos and tons of pictures of them take up alot of space, and please don't use upload to the cloud as the savior.

rattrick1

Agree, if you use a lot of storage, that's a legitimate concern.

Leeroy Jenkins

Ireland! o/ they care about our tiny Island at last!

d_wat

Well, their EU headquarters are here and I'm pretty sure their local warehouse is, too :D

When I bought my Nexus 4, google play hadn't opened in Ireland yet, so I had to order it through a UK proxy, get it sent to the UK from Ireland, and have it shipped back :o So glad those days are over!

Ben

Does anyone know if they'll be a 64GB model? If there isn't, that rules this phone out for me.

That's a reasonable question! Google's EU headquarters are in Ireland, which explains why we get access to the phone when other major European countries don't - IIRC Google's stock warehouse is also here, and phones ordered in the UK ship from Ireland to the UK, so it makes sense for us. Perhaps Google's warehouse isn't in Australia, which explains the delay? Although I'd wonder where it is instead :|

Dean

Ooh good point, I believe Australia's nexii are shipped from Singapore or HK

Teodor Axel Johan Jönsson

I live in Sweden and according to what I have been told by the swedish Google customer service is that the warehouse is located/dispatched from The Nederlands to Sweden

Fvdb

But Swedes will not be able to pre-order, correct?

Teodor Axel Johan Jönsson

Yes, but I was just commenting on that the stock warehouse is in Irland. I think they have more than one warehouse in EU

Tr1n1ty86

429$ for a model with only 2gb doesn't make any sense. Hope it has 3gb

nirmitlamed

So am i. And i don't understand people that comparing to iphone 2gb ram. This isn't iPhone! and why the hell should we compromise for less.

Paul Phillips

I'd get the ice blue but 32GB really isn't enough for me anymore. And don't say use the cloud, it's impractical in real life use.
Apple will be laughing at this. They have small sized phones with 64GB and 128GB options

Alex Vainshtein

Will it be sold only on Google Store or at Amazon too?

Choose

$499 for the base 6P? That's amazing if you ask me!

Kostas Xirog

Geez People you need to calm down. There is no need to put 3 gigs of ram on a phone if it's not required. There is no app that needs 3 gigs of ram in order to run. If you ask me, the new hardware specs like the processor, 64-bit architecture, USB-C and fingerprint scanner beat off any other device that lacks those and has another gig of ram...A much better trade off.

aenews

Well OP2 offers all those plus a better SoC and 4GB RAM at that price point.

Kostas Xirog

Sure. Only you don't get fast software updates and the phone is pretty ugly in my opinion.. But yeah I didn't know the OP2 had all these, so you're right on that end.

aenews

Ugly... How? I dunno man. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think it has a fantastic design. Personally think it's one of the best looking phones on the market. Love StyleSwap and the metal rims are pretty nice. Love the stylistic dent for the home "button" as well. Well I don't know about the updates. OxygenOS theoretically should have faster updates since it is closer to stock.

I don't know the history of the Brazilian exchange rate, but when the N5 was out it was the same price (or at least close) for us here as the US. Just makes it harder to justify buying new shiny things lately, since we were used to things being equal for a while and now everything's inflated after just a short time.

Scott Harris

That's a lot of money for what you get with the 5X when compared to the Moto X Pure...

gh0st_h4wk

I think its funny to see people complaining about no 64GB version. I have 32gb on my phone (split between internal storage and SD card) and I feel that it would take ages for me to fill it. And I cary every music I have with me, all the apps I use most and even a few pictures. 32Gb is very OK to me.

nirmitlamed

it was never revealed that nexus 5x will get the sd card slot, only nexus 6p.

gh0st_h4wk

Like I replied to another comment, I never said that because I don't need it, others don't need. I just pointed out that I find it to be FUNNY because I don't use it at all.

Daggett Beaver

I don't use it, either. My Note 4 has 32 GB and I put a 64 GB card in it. I have 20 GB available on the phone and 54 GB available (out of a maximum of 59 GB) on the card. I don't need the card at all. I just use it for some backups. I used to have my music on it, but I put that on NAS, and stream it from there.

thomasguide2

That's fine for what you use it for, but the OS, apps, photos, and videos are getting bloated. So 16gb should not even exist, especially if you have no sd card option. At least with an sd card you can have photos and video on the chip and use the built in storage for apps.

That's just it though. It's very OK to *you*. It would be nice for those who need it to have the option for more storage -- option is the key word, you'd still be able to get your 32gb version.

gh0st_h4wk

I never said that because I don't need it, others don't need. I just pointed out that I find it to be FUNNY because I don't use it at all.

bp

On a site like this, you are going to have more "power users." For the average phone user, I agree, 32 GB is more than enough. Just delete your photos off the device once a year.

anees

too expensive imo, for the same price you can get oneplus 2 or the moto x style

Cakefish

So what do people actually want? The way I'm looking at it, it offers a very similar value for money as the new Moto X Style/Pure. The Moto X has QHD and 3GB RAM, but the Nexus 5X has OIS, laser focus and fingerprint scanner. It balances out, does it not?

Jes Marwaha

This is exactly what I thought

Blane Stroud

Well, it depends on how good the camera actually is. OIS and Laser Focus don't make the camera great. If it's still a mediocre camera, then no, it probably doesn't balance out. And if all the other Nexus devices have been any indication, the camera will not be that great. Also, the Moto X Pure [supposedly] has a really great camera without OIS and Laser Focus.

thomasguide2

Why do we care if it has usb type-c? Just so it plugs in in either direction?

Cakefish

Some people seem to care a lot. Their opinion is no less worthy than yours or mine (I too am not super excited for Type-C).

Chris Edmond

Well...it varies from person to person, but it helps for high speed data transfers and (Hopefully) better MIDI support in Android phones....thats been a little bit of a sore spot to me in my eyes for android....so i make music on my PC and a USB-C port that goes with my USB 3.0 ports on my computer would be nice. I know that until the world is using the best of the best SSD that you wont see the 10Gbps or whatever and im fine with that, however even 4-5 Gbps is really good. Also helps if i plug my phone up to the TV using the cable. higher image quality. this really helps if im like out on the road or somewhere with an HDTV and i just whip out the cable, plug it in and stream from netflix to a big TV at a friends house or something. I know there are other ways to do this ( Chromecast, etc.) but there are some upsides

aenews

No USB Type-C is just the connector type. Nothing to do with charging speed or data transfer speed. There have been standard microUSB Type-B with both USB 2.0 and USB 3.0. The OnePlus 2 has a USB Type-C with USB 2.0. No current-gen flagship on the market has USB 3.0/3.1. The upcoming Nexus devices may or may not support USB 3.0/3.1. The benefit of USB Type-C is the reversible connector. Plain and simple.

Google seriously screwed the pricing of the 5X. The 32gb version of the 5X will be anywhere between 400-429. For 70-100 more you could get the 6P which will be better in every aspect. 5X should be 300-329. Even the 2014 N6 is a better deal than the 5X at the $350 price. Heck, I could go to TMobile and get the G4 for 480, which comes with LG's camera software making it one of the best cameras on the market, removable battery, sd slot, and a better display. $379 for the 5X makes no sense.

Jes Marwaha

Yeah kind of clever, no one is gonna spend almost the same amount for the "low end" phone. Therefore they will spend that extra for the "better" phone.

thomasguide2

It's the same thing Apple does, having a 16gb model and upgrading it to 64GB for $100 more.

Sam Wiggans

Man, if I can't order it in Canada tomorrow.......

TypoCorrecto

Google is really on fire right now...I still have a feeling there's something they'll reveal that hasn't been leaked...

lomsha

Hopefully lol, at this point the scheduled event is unnecessary with all the leaks.

Is it going to be the same equivalent in the UK and Ireland, or is it going to be more expensive(like the 2013 Nexus 5 was)?

Arjit Mehra

I don't care if it has "only" 2GB of Ram. I'm sad that at that price it only offers 16 GB : / I live in India, and it will probably cost more than $380 when converted to INR. If it's priced anywhere near moto X Play(INR 19,999, 32GB), then it's a toughie. 16 GB doesn't cut it, IMO.

It's totally valid to mention other great phones at similar prices, but I don't think this is terrible, considering that some of us don't want a larger phone and it will almost certainly be better than the original Nexus 5 (which, at the time, was $400 for the 32 GB version).

And people are really upset...about RAM? My Nexus 5 runs fine with 2 GB of RAM, even with stock Lollipop's crap memory management. Then again, I have a lot of apps but don't game or anything like that. What's good for me is not enough for others obviously.

Really though, Google should also bring back GPE devices for those that want the best specs and a stock experience.

Daggett Beaver

You can get a stock experience on any phone. Just disable most of the features.

Max

I tried to do something like that with a SGS6 and it was definitely not a stock experience, there were still many annoying TouchWiz things and my Nexus 5 felt definitely snappier in many situations and with a more cohesive experience.

thomasguide2

Samsung's skin is heavily modified, you are not going to get anywhere near stock android on those phones. The best bet is Motox Pure or Nexus.

Max

Yes, I agree, I was clarifying that it isn't true that any phone can get a stock experience and the reason is precisely that some OEMs modify a lot the OS.

Andrew VanRysseghem

32GB is not enough and this is big for a 5.2" phone. My only complaints

eilegz

at this price why not get the new moto x over this one....

thomasguide2

Cause it's just too big.

aenews

Standard Size

But yeah you're right they cator to different people.

JohnClaudeVanDam

I really wanted to upgrade from my LG G2, but this just isn't enough of an upgrade. So long as 6.0 comes to the G2, I think I am good for another year.

Give me the 6P with a 5.2" screen and I'd be happy.

Going from a Nexus 4 to OnePlus to G2, I feel the size of the G2 is perfect.

FCEEVIPER

I getting this, I really don't care what you specs android hipsters are bitching about.

Madis Otenurm

Bit expensive for 16 GB...
Will see.

awesomecleric

Comparison of the 2013 Moto X vs the two new Nexus phones. Figured I would share if I was making it for myself...

BillyGardiner

Thanks for this! Really nice comparison.

Maldonado Esteve

Damn it! what time preorder going to starts? I have to work tomorrow.

J2

5.7" isn't absurd in 2015. Is it large? Yes. Is it absurd? No, not really. X Pure, Note 5, iPhone 6+, One Plus Two, all right around that 5.5-5.7" range. It's just the way phones are trending, and I don't expect them to reverse any time soon.

aenews

*OnePlus 2

Got both parts wrong haha

Not that you meant to make a comprehensive list but forgetting the LG G4 & LG G Flex 2 as well as the ZTE Axon Pro ;)

Then the Samsung Galaxy S6 variants and the Sony Xperia Z3+/Z4 are in the 5.2-Inch range. The upcoming Xperia Z5 Premium will have a 5.5-Inch Display as well.

fitnesspro22

The LG G4 is an excellent device however it is not selling well here in the U.S. It has a definite LAG, probably on account of the high resolution screen and bloat ware. That is why I am sceptical about the 808 processor on the NEXUS 5X. Yet, it may work well. I must try it in my hands. On the other hand, I may opt for the NEXUS 6P, though I prefer the LG phones. I care about speed and battery life. My NEXUS 5 is super fast, with 800 processor and ,2 G of RAM. The NEXUS 6 is trifle faster with the 805 processor.. You cannot beat Google phones - the pure Android and the updates. Till tomorrow.

charged99

you make a valid point what happened was when the G3 came out many were excited about it but it was a disappointment it had severe hard ware issues. over heating dead pixels, bad reception with a muffled making & receiving phone calls it was not on par despite the specs looking good. Yet now that I have the G4 and it is a huge improvement over the G3 many people might not want to buy the 5X because it is made by LG. Many people angry about the G3 experience. I was looking forward to the next HTC phone I know they dropped the ball with the latest android and must rebound with it's latest phone coming out.

fitnesspro22

Of course "It is not absurd." I like the the NEXUS 5 with 32g of memory. It should come with 3 G of RAM. However, I want to try it in my hand, mainly to check the operational speed. Otherwise, I will go with the NEXUS 6p, most likelyvwith the 64 g memory. It sounds like a powerhouse.

charged99

I agree I don't want anything bigger than a 5.5. display which is the Max size I would ever want.

peevee

Unfortunately, jeans front pockets still are not trending into allowing any phablets in. I doubt even Nexus 5X will fit, 5 is already tight.
Thumbs are not growing longer either.

Dawson Snache

what they need is for Otterbox to give up resisting already and make nexus cases

Fatal1ty_93_RUS

379$ is not good IMO :/ Should've been 350$ (also for the 32 GB version, not 16GB. Google)

Moto X 2015 is looking much better right now

Martin Cohen

Based on my note 3 experience I'm not going to get any phone with less than 128 GB.

BillyGardiner

Martin. Comments like yours really bother me. There isn't any context into why you having a Note 3 would make it necessary for you to *NEED* 128GB. In reality, the device is irrelevant in your comment...

As such, what was your experience with your android device that limits you to selecting a device that allows for 128GB or more? Was there something in the Note 3 that caused a large amount of storage space to be utilized that is (or isn't) device specific? Are you downloading large media for offline use?

I don't mean to come off rude, and I am actually curious about your experience, but a fully expressed comment can go a long way.

Thanks.

Martin Cohen

I have over 64GB of music and movies. I have had problems with the 128GB cards in my Note 3. A phone with 128GB of main memory would be enough for me.

Cory Wilson

$380 seems really high for a phone with no qi, no ois, crappy storage options, no quad hd, only 2gb of ram Google really failed this year. Granted I mean 1080 and 2gb of RAM should be enough but cutting that stuff should yield you with a $300 or lower starting price not $380 and it should have qi and ois on it afterall the original did. $380 would be fine had they included that. Here's to crappy pictures in the dark and fumbling with cables in the dark

MicJon554

Looks like Apple is gonna kick them to the curb again lol.

Full-Anon.tk

Vijender Marthi

Anroid 5.1.1 takes only 400MB to run. I'm running galaxy S3 with 5.1.1 - 400MB for system and 500MB for apps. Still 1GB is left to run the apps.

Problem is with Android vendors - they are loading with system apps.

Though LG G4 is 3GB - only 1.4 GB left to run the apps.
S5 Note has 4GB ram - only 1.8 gb left to run apps.

Remove all the scrappy apps - it will run faster than iOS.

Nassim Jandal

How do you remove preloaded apps?

jimjummers

Buy a Nexus and throw away your bloatware phone.

Lucas Baker

Does anyone remember how much the Nexus 4, 5, and 6 were in dollars? I want to work out the difference so I can get an idea how much it'll be in GBP

aenews

It's somewhere on this page

fijisiv

I paid US$349 for the N4 (16GB) in March 2013

Nassim Jandal

The 2GB RAM does kinda concern me. Let me explain, I'm still on the galaxy S4 and since the last update my phone ran out of space and can't download anymore apps or even update the ones I have.

EdmundoWong

So your concern is storage not RAM. The storage of Nexus 5X is either 16GB or 32GB.

Nassim Jandal

I'm a bit confused TBH. I thought music, pics and video go on the storage and apps go on the RAM?

aenews

No RAM is RAM. Random Access Memory. Applications run in the RAM (Super Fast Read/Write Speeds) and read off the Internal Flash Storage (ROM). Applications are installed and files stored in your ROM. Otherwise how would your phone work and how would you have 2+ GB Games and let's say Videos?

EeZeEpEe

Internal memory is where apps gets stored.

alexz

For this price, Moto X Pure is a more attractive option.

Слава Україні

This^^^. I'd love to continue using my M7, but really need this darn band 12 so have to upgrade. Was really hoping for the 5x, but I don't think I can force myself into staring at >5 inches display with 1080p.

Sandcat

And you don't force yourself to stare at your computer monitor, with a ppi density less than 1/4 of a 5.2" 1080p screen?

Слава Україні

21' 1920x1200 so no, not really.

Sandcat

Yes, really. Your monitors ppi is ~114.

That's roughly 1/4 the 440ppi of a 1080 5" screen that you consider cruel and unusual punishment.

Stop fooling yourself, the difference between 1440p and 1080p on a 5 inch screen is bragging rights, nothing more.

Слава Україні

All I want is a smaller screen and that's what my post was about. 4.7' would be ideal at 1080p. Did I ever mention I wanted 1440 on a 5' screen? No, so please go and practice your ppi math skills elsewhere.

Sandcat

Your post was about ppi.

"I don't think I can force myself into staring at >5 inches display with 1080p"
No need to be so sensitive about it. Just pointing out that it is inconsistent to complain about 'low' ppi on a 5" screen whilst using 0.25x the ppi on your monitor.

aenews

So well optimized they don't need specifications? What do you mean? How do they "run twice as fast with half the power"? Apple's Custom SoC's have always been top notch.

Well this is the Nexus 5X not the Nexus 6P. The 5X will have a much smaller ~5-Inch Display and hence there is hardly a pressing need for QHD. More importantly the 5X comes out an SoC inferior to the 6 released last year. It's slower than last year's Nexus 6. So I do view it as a budget handset but not for the same reasons. The battery is pretty small, but not abnormally small for a phone that size. Yeah any phone coming out right now should have 3/4GB RAM.

me me

$379+ tax+shipping for the 16GB model so..... $429 (guess?) +tax+shipping for the 32GB model? That's $480 total price for us in California.

So no wireless charging, 2GB memory, 32GB storage, no OIS for $480 delivered. So for $403 I get a no wireless charging 4GB memory 64GB storage with OIS OnePlusTwo.

Believe even the Nexus 5 can be apparently made to work with Project Fi unofficially so I'd assume it will have official or at least unofficial support.

qriusme

No 64GB version? My OnePlus One first version still seems like a great deal at ~$360 for 64GB.

apolloa

So reading this story the price is NOT confirmed, just guesswork as it states 'you're expecting' as opposed to 'our trusted leak states'.

woadie style

Why do companies push for cloud technology when data plans have limits. I wish we just had more storage on the phones or unlimited data plans everywhere.

fijisiv

So they can sell you a bigger data plan.

woadie style

All data plans are small compared to unlimited.

Jean-Michel Aubin

I still use my M7 as well and with the installation of a new rom, I'm not sure I want to switch. Sure, I have the purple tint on dark photos but if I don't game, I have still 70% battery left after the day and I have had this phone for more than 2 years.

Still snappy and sounds very good. Screen, body, everything is flawless... I don't know what to get as my next phone... Been off plan for 3 months, still can't find a worthy phone...

aenews

Dude I got an HTC One M7 this year off Swappa and clearly off warranty. HTC still fixed the purple tint issue at no cost. You should just get it fixed.

SUEEY!!

Canada never gets any love :(

Nathan Casey

Except nexuses run just fine.

aenews

Right here's the point I'm trying to make. That's simply not the case that software optimization magically allows the iPhone/iPad lineage to match or surpass equivalent generation Android Devices. There is definitely great software optimization, but you seem to be under the misconception that more cores mean better performance. Take the Denver Tegra K1 used in the Nexus 9 for instance and you'll see an efficient dual-core design with fantastic single-core and multi-core performance (Not a Phone). Apple doesn't make inferior SoC's and just make magical fantastic software that allows their products to surpass Android Devices. They make fantastic well-designed custom SoC's. They have well optimized software, but don't pull an insane amount of performance out of a hat with mid-end SoC's. Number of cores does not correlate well with actual performance.

Now you're talking about smoothness? As in the UI? UI fluidity is not the same as performance and animations are a matter of preference. In any case, pretty much all Android Flagships released the past couple years will be pretty smooth assuming they have relatively stock software. You can also adjust the speed of the animations on any Android device under Developer's Settings and install different home launchers like Nova Launcher off the Play Store that allow further customization to the animation speeds and animations themselves.

Carter Taylor

Seems like I'll go for the moto x pure

narg

They actually bothered with a 16 GB version? Oh the stupidity!

fitnesspro22

Well, but it is not up to you. That's why there is something for every one. It is what it is.

fitnesspro22

Nonsense. I got my wife the iPhone 6+ with 64 memory. It is a quality piece but still not worth the $900 some I paid. It has a LAG. Yes, it is slow and drove me insane ii just two days. Additionally, it is an "iPhone of a straight jacket.". No freedom of doing that which you can do with PURE Android.

cornerofthemoon

Google has probably only manufactured a dozen phones and then they'll brag when they're all sold out.

n00bstomper

its not optimization, it is that they do way less and suck way more.

kpop

nexus phones kill iphone performance. don't bring touchwiz phones into this conversation. their lag is a disgrace to android.

Berker Logoglu

so at exactly what time will it be available? during the event, just after or in the afternoon? any ideas?

Snoozin

A company as big as Google can't offer pre-order to the Australian market at the same time. Clear lack of respect for oceania buyers. Bugger ya! will buy a different brand now!

roblightbody

After I broke my beloved Nexus 5, I switched to a Sony Z2 - which has just incredible battery life by comparison. I'd love to come back to the 5X, but the battery life needs to be a lot better than the original which, in my hands, never made it to bed time. My Z2 always does.

Alwyn Fu

2GB ram ain't gonna cut it with the memory leak that's going around

Paweł Skulioza

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Pixelio can become a portable laboratory for 3D scanning and a mobile
mini photo studio. It also offers a number of new features that similar
older devices did not have.http://www.smart-3d.co/pages/press

In regard to size there is no one size fits all, it's up to the individual what suits them,

I have had 2 Galaxy notes , current one is a note 4 and you could not pry it out of my cold dead hands,
upon looking at new phones before purchasing my note 4 I looked at many devices including smaller ones,
for my use the smaller devices the screen size sucked, typing messages sucked, and they just generally felt awkward.
I will admit my first few days with my original note 2, it felt ungainly, but it soon grew on me and I wouldn't part with it.

xavier

Google is really blowing it here not including Canada in the preorders, I've been waiting months for this phone checking all the updates and leaks only to find that we aren't considered a valued consumer to them. This isn't the first time Google has neglected to provide us the same quality of service as the U.S. I mean we share the same continent why are we being treated like foreigners? There are no igloo's here, and we like new devices too..

domepiece

The specs do not justify the price at all for me. I guess disappointment is expected for Nexus devices these days. And the 6P would've been more attractive if it was smaller and sold well below the $500 mark.

Justin Silva

The reason the iPhone is so we'll optimized is because there isn't any other hardware apple needs to worry about. This said the nexus is the standard pure Android phone without any bloat ware which allows for much easier optimization from Google thus no need for lots of ram. In addition to this the nexus will have a 1080p screen ewwww right? Actually 1080pp will more than suffice especially for a screen that size and I imagine Google did this to greatly decrease battery usage.