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Originally Posted by Hiknhanger

I am coming to the party late, but I had a thought. I didn't read every entry, so this might have been kicked around already.

What if on the tail piece where you are making the prusik, you instead make a small loop, (short bury with a couple of locking stitches maybe) then attach something like a loop of zing-it to that to make the prusik? As I recall, in a perfect world the diameter of the prusik knot line should be smaller than the line it is attached to. Would that make it less likely to release by accident? Just an untested idea.

I'm making a pair of UCR's with 1/8 Amsteel. 6' on the long piece, and I only had a bury of 9". I finished the one @ 11:30 pm. Of course, I had to test it out. It's slowlyyyyy slipped until I was on my Ѡ.

What do you think would be a good length for the bury to use. I'm thinking 15".

Thanks

Mine are similar but are 7/64th and I haven't slipped yet.

Full disclosure : now i haven't slept with them or anything but we did have a tug of war and I have hung from them.

Wonder if the larger diameter doesn't allow the proper ' squeeze'?

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Full disclosure : now i haven't slept with them or anything but we did have a tug of war and I have hung from them.

Wonder if the larger diameter doesn't allow the proper ' squeeze'?

The 1/8 does have a different shape to it as well. However, I'm hoping the problem was the 9" bury. I know they're people who've made Whoopie Slings out of 1/8 and only used a 12" bury. I know the UCR needs more. How much more, I don't know.

From the Sansom site the bury should be a minimum of 3.5 x fid
The fid is the diameter x 22 (actually they say 21, but their examples are beteween 21 and 22, so lets go with 22)
This makes the bury for 1/8" 9.625"
7/64" works out to about 8.5"

I often wonder if the measurement should be taken with the constricted rope or the constricting rope. From the diagrams it looks like the constricting rope, so you need to expand the rope before you measure your entry and exit of your bury.

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I often wonder if the measurement should be taken with the constricted rope or the constricting rope. From the diagrams it looks like the constricting rope, so you need to expand the rope before you measure your entry and exit of your bury.

I am coming to the party late, but I had a thought. I didn't read every entry, so this might have been kicked around already.

What if on the tail piece where you are making the prusik, you instead make a small loop, (short bury with a couple of locking stitches maybe) then attach something like a loop of zing-it to that to make the prusik? As I recall, in a perfect world the diameter of the prusik knot line should be smaller than the line it is attached to. Would that make it less likely to release by accident? Just an untested idea.

I'm making a pair of UCR's with 1/8 Amsteel. 6' on the long piece, and I only had a bury of 9". I finished the one @ 11:30 pm. Of course, I had to test it out. It's slowlyyyyy slipped until I was on my Ѡ.

What do you think would be a good length for the bury to use. I'm thinking 15".

Thanks

I haven't worked with 1/8", but I too am curious, was the finished length of the constrictor 9"? Or did you measure 9" before you buried the other cord through? A full proof way to figure that out, is to run the cord through, take the measurement, then pull the cord out.

I haven't worked with 1/8", but I too am curious, was the finished length of the constrictor 9"? Or did you measure 9" before you buried the other cord through? A full proof way to figure that out, is to run the cord through, take the measurement, then pull the cord out.

Just the bury was 9 inches. I had a Whoopie Hook on it, and an extra long tail to tie off with the knot to keep it from slipping. I milked it, pulled it and it was tight. However, once I got in, it slowly slid until I was on my butt.

The 1/8 does have a different shape to it as well. However, I'm hoping the problem was the 9" bury. I know they're people who've made Whoopie Slings out of 1/8 and only used a 12" bury. I know the UCR needs more. How much more, I don't know.

Dumb on my part. I answered my own question. If the WS needs a 12" Bury and the UCR needs more, then my 9" was way too short.

I found some hardwood in the forest today on a short walk. I'm going to test it to see if I can use it with the Sliding Toggle Method on one end, and the UCR on the other end. That way, when I'm hanging and someone asks about my setup, I'll have more to brag about how the hammock can be hung in a variety of ways & methods.

I used Fallknivens instructions (which were extremely clear) but made the bury 10 inches. Slept overnight with no slippage this past weekend. I think I like the UCRs better than the whoopie slings.... I will have to play around with them more. I used 7/64 not 1/8.