Re: Fruitful warranty job on the rig but still a question I have for you guys

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Originally Posted by 2014 LAREDO

Wow, your oil change indicator light already came on 2200 miles?
I've got almost 5000 miles now and the light hasn't come on yet to indicate I need my first oil change.

I also have a 2014 Laredo E and it came with the push button start/stop.

You can see how much oil life it thinks it has left in it in the dash display.

I'm always paranoid of changing factory oil too early. There was a long thread on VW forums that folks that had the early itch, later burned oil excessively. The theory was that the factory oil has some special additives (abrasives maybe, can't recall) designed for proper break in.

Re: Fruitful warranty job on the rig but still a question I have for you guys

I'm gonna play by Jeeps rules and go by their Oil Change Indicator System, That way no warranty issues down the road. When the indicator says I need to change it then I'll change it. Most likely my first change will be at around 8000-10,000 miles as I checked it tonite with 4775 miles and it is at 56% life left.

The oil change indicator system was introduced on most 2008 Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep models. This system displays a "Oil Change Required" or "Oil Change" message at appropriate intervals on the instrument cluster.
Schedules A and B have long been a part of required and recommended maintenance on Chrysler Group vehicles. One drawback of using these schedules is that customers sometimes end up making a best "guesstimate" of the correct maintenance interval.
With the introduction of the Oil Change Indicator system, that's going to change - customers are automatically notified via the cluster or EVIC that an oil change is required. In addition, the system does away with Schedules A and B and instead combines both into easy-to-use lists and tables.

The Oil Change Indicator system uses the Powertrain Control Module to process a variety of inputs and then decides on an oil change interval. The factors which point toward severe use include the following:

The system cannot keep track of dusty conditions or time elapsed since the last maintenance. In fact, it is possible for the maximum allowable maintenance time interval to elapse without an oil change reminder. In such a case, it is the owner's responsibility to ensure that maintenance is performed according to the recommended interval.
Based on the inputs, at a fixed number of miles since the last reset, the Powertrain Control Module decides on the severity of the operating conditions. If one or more of the conditions indicates severe use, the PCM sends a message over the bus so that the appropriate message can be displayed. If the PCM decides that the normal service interval applies, it waits until additional mileage has accumulated before sending out the request for a message.
The EVIC message may also include A dealership's name and phone number, which can be programmed into the vehicle with a scan tool. However, the dealership must receive the customer's approval before adding this information. Hitting the trip button will temporarily end the message, and it will reappear with the next key cycle. In addition to the oil change, the related items listed in the Service Information should also be performed when service is indicated. All other items will follow a single maintenance schedule with the same calendar/mileage intervals no matter what the oil change interval.

2013-2014 models (gasoline engines)

2013 model year vehicles will be equipped with a new variable automatic oil change indicator system. Operating conditions such as frequent short-trips, trailer tow, extremely hot or cold ambient temperatures, or E85 fuel usage will influence when the "Change Oil" message is displayed indicating service is required. Severe operating conditions can cause the change oil message to illuminate AS EARLY AS 3,500 MILES SINCE THE LAST RESET.

NOTE: ALWAYS CHANGE THE ENGINE OIL AND FILTER WHEN PROMPTED BY THE OIL CHANGE INDICATOR SYSTEM AND UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD OIL CHANGE INTERVALS EXCEED 10,000 MILES OR TWELVE MONTHS, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST.

Certain maintenance services are now coupled with the oil change indicator system rather than being listed at THE REVISED FIXED INTERVALS - 12 MONTHS / 10,000 MILES. Listed below are the maintenance services that are required to be performed at every oil change interval as indicated by oil change indicator system:

Change engine oil and filter. Oil changes prompted by the oil change indicator system can be recorded in the oil change log section.

Rotate the tires. Rotate at the first sign of irregular wear even if it occurs before the oil indicator system turns on.

Re: Fruitful warranty job on the rig but still a question I have for you guys

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Originally Posted by hotspur

$150 is ridiculous. Just received a notice to update my Corvette maps for $150 and immediately tossed it into the trash. Paid less than that for a Garmin with lifetime maps and traffic.

Don't get me wrong, the price is somewhat exorbitant, but since I have it, I might as well get the map update since I do drive it to places I am not familiar with. On that same note, if I knew I would have to buy the maps and not have them updated as part of the price of the car, I would have opted for a window mounted one or something along a double din replacement.

Re: Fruitful warranty job on the rig but still a question I have for you guys

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2014 LAREDO

I'm gonna play by Jeeps rules and go by their Oil Change Indicator System, That way no warranty issues down the road. When the indicator says I need to change it then I'll change it. Most likely my first change will be at around 8000-10,000 miles as I checked it tonite with 4775 miles and it is at 56% life left.

The oil change indicator system was introduced on most 2008 Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep models. This system displays a "Oil Change Required" or "Oil Change" message at appropriate intervals on the instrument cluster.
Schedules A and B have long been a part of required and recommended maintenance on Chrysler Group vehicles. One drawback of using these schedules is that customers sometimes end up making a best "guesstimate" of the correct maintenance interval.
With the introduction of the Oil Change Indicator system, that's going to change - customers are automatically notified via the cluster or EVIC that an oil change is required. In addition, the system does away with Schedules A and B and instead combines both into easy-to-use lists and tables.

The Oil Change Indicator system uses the Powertrain Control Module to process a variety of inputs and then decides on an oil change interval. The factors which point toward severe use include the following:

The system cannot keep track of dusty conditions or time elapsed since the last maintenance. In fact, it is possible for the maximum allowable maintenance time interval to elapse without an oil change reminder. In such a case, it is the owner's responsibility to ensure that maintenance is performed according to the recommended interval.
Based on the inputs, at a fixed number of miles since the last reset, the Powertrain Control Module decides on the severity of the operating conditions. If one or more of the conditions indicates severe use, the PCM sends a message over the bus so that the appropriate message can be displayed. If the PCM decides that the normal service interval applies, it waits until additional mileage has accumulated before sending out the request for a message.
The EVIC message may also include A dealership's name and phone number, which can be programmed into the vehicle with a scan tool. However, the dealership must receive the customer's approval before adding this information. Hitting the trip button will temporarily end the message, and it will reappear with the next key cycle. In addition to the oil change, the related items listed in the Service Information should also be performed when service is indicated. All other items will follow a single maintenance schedule with the same calendar/mileage intervals no matter what the oil change interval.

2013-2014 models (gasoline engines)

2013 model year vehicles will be equipped with a new variable automatic oil change indicator system. Operating conditions such as frequent short-trips, trailer tow, extremely hot or cold ambient temperatures, or E85 fuel usage will influence when the "Change Oil" message is displayed indicating service is required. Severe operating conditions can cause the change oil message to illuminate AS EARLY AS 3,500 MILES SINCE THE LAST RESET.

NOTE: ALWAYS CHANGE THE ENGINE OIL AND FILTER WHEN PROMPTED BY THE OIL CHANGE INDICATOR SYSTEM AND UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD OIL CHANGE INTERVALS EXCEED 10,000 MILES OR TWELVE MONTHS, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST.

Certain maintenance services are now coupled with the oil change indicator system rather than being listed at THE REVISED FIXED INTERVALS - 12 MONTHS / 10,000 MILES. Listed below are the maintenance services that are required to be performed at every oil change interval as indicated by oil change indicator system:

Change engine oil and filter. Oil changes prompted by the oil change indicator system can be recorded in the oil change log section.

Rotate the tires. Rotate at the first sign of irregular wear even if it occurs before the oil indicator system turns on.