For some reason, this has deeply offended me, for years of following professional StarCraft, for the competitive scene to be so diluted by match-fixing, its made me want to see where our own scene stands on this issue.

I remember Life's first big tournament win, watching the game live, and to me it feels that experience is inauthentic considering the recent actions of the player, and many others in a similar position.

I may get around to doing a TD;DR for the Team Liquid post, but in the meantime, what do you, the Sc2sea community, think about this particular issue?

"and we'll invest more on Bots, as our first Trial bot, the 'NemBotElie' was a huge success, organising tournaments and being part of the Council of mGG. But there are a few bugs in which the bot cannot go past the skill level of a Platinum Protoss." - PaRAnorMaL

It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.

Anyone have vods for the games Life threw? Would be interesting to see what he did and if it was obvious or if it was betting patterns that betrayed him.

Also, that's a thing I love about the SC2 community vs the CSGO one. In SC2 if you matchfix you're a piece of shit, but in CSGO matchfixers are seen as victims of Valve's evil and have people trying non-stop to get them unbanned. Weird stuff.

Anyone have vods for the games Life threw? Would be interesting to see what he did and if it was obvious or if it was betting patterns that betrayed him.

Also, that's a thing I love about the SC2 community vs the CSGO one. In SC2 if you matchfix you're a piece of shit, but in CSGO matchfixers are seen as victims of Valve's evil and have people trying non-stop to get them unbanned. Weird stuff.

If I find the other I'll let u know or someone else might be able to link it

edit: rize linked both life's vods ^^

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"and we'll invest more on Bots, as our first Trial bot, the 'NemBotElie' was a huge success, organising tournaments and being part of the Council of mGG. But there are a few bugs in which the bot cannot go past the skill level of a Platinum Protoss." - PaRAnorMaL

I'm disappointed that players do this and ruin their careers but to me it doesn't diminish their accomplishments at all. Stain their legacy, of course but to me, Life is still the incredible world beating player that he always was. He wasn't caught cheating where all his achievements are potentially not his own, he still earned those wins and as a fan of great zerg play that is what matters most to me.

From my understanding, Life didn't lose either of the series that he match fixed which is pretty nuts that he was able to throw a game and still pull out the win. It's an awful thing to fix matches and intentionally lose because of the damage to the competitive integrity of the game but I urge people to not diminish the previous achievements of these players.

I agree with Ryan, the fact is he should be banned but I feel more bad for the guy than anything else. He obviously had troubles outside the game and he has tarnished his whole life. As far as I know it is incredibly hard to get a job with a criminal record in Korea. So really he threw 2 games in a wonderful career, tarnished forever but a wonderful career none the less. I really hope he gets help for his problems and can hopefully come out ok at the end. Also hope he doesn't do anything bad for 3 years because I don't want him to go to jail.

Read a tweet from Petraeus that he was offered money to throw matches when he moved to ROOT house.. interesting to see how wide spread it must be! Still I think the criminals are the match fixers not as such the players. Esports gamers are often low income struggling with issues of putting in hours and hours of work with little return, not suprising many of them are tempted to throw games..

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