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Today there was a important news announcement article published by CBC News-New Brunswick on 1-8-2018 about the 21st-century hydrogen company called Joi Scientific working with NB Power who will invest $7 million in the research and development partnership with Joi Scientific. The mature start-up company called Joi Scientific is a revolutionary-green energy breakthrough technology that can produce a self sustaining supply of hydrogen on demand or 24/7. Look up today's news story by CBC News-New Brunswick about the coal power plant that will be converted to run off hydrogen that is safely stored in cheap Seawater nearby. Over the last two years Joi Scientific has been funded with over $7 million investment dollars and has been granted 4 US Patents in 2016. Joi Scientific has opened offices in Asia, Europe, Canada and are still located at the Kennedy Space Center at the SLSL facility. The advisers for Joi Scientific have great credibility such as a retired Brigadier General, former executive at the Department of Energy, VP of Microsoft in Asia and many others you can read about at the website for Joi Scientific at www.joiscientific.com blog site. Not long ago I found a international company for Joi Scientific that is called 2G Energy. This large company builds gaseous fueled engine powered electric generators for combined heat and power (CHP) applications. They produce a range of 20 KW up to 4.5 Mega Watt electric generators with CHP that can be fueled by either gaseous hydrogen, methane, biogas and syngas. It turns out that 2G Energy is only 145 miles away from Joi Scientific at the KSC in Florida. If these two companies decide to partner any ship, train, truck or power plant can be fueled by higly competitive hydrogen fuel that is safely stored in any type of water.

As it stands, it is likely to be dismissed as a wave, wind or PV generated voltage electrolysing seawater.

Not quite true.

I read some of the statements of the company.

They need a little energy/hho in the begininning and after that it is a self sustaining process.Creating more hho from the water then it is costing them hho to produce it. On location, or mobile, on demand. No storage.

To compound this a little bit, sea water is being used as an electrolyte for its own electrolysis copper and aluminum are used as cheap electrodes, which are replaced as needed.the salt-water battery can also use nickel instead of aluminum

The bi-products of the process include salts and a variety of other mineralsleft in saline solution. Which can also be extracted to fund the process.

Clean water is also output by the combustion or electrochemical battery. (reverse electrolysis)

In this manner, any coastal environment can use the ocean as a power source.(along with the consumption of aluminum, and to a lesser degree copper)The metal-oxides can be recycled for a decrease in material costs over the long term.

To compound this a little bit, sea water is being used as an electrolyte for its own electrolysis copper and aluminum are used as cheap electrodes, which are replaced as needed.the salt-water battery can also use nickel instead of aluminum

The bi-products of the process include salts and a variety of other mineralsleft in saline solution. Which can also be extracted to fund the process.

Clean water is also output by the combustion or electrochemical battery. (reverse electrolysis)

In this manner, any coastal environment can use the ocean as a power source.(along with the consumption of aluminum, and to a lesser degree copper)The metal-oxides can be recycled for a decrease in material costs over the long term.

Where did you read that they are using copper and aluminum electrodes?

@sm0ky2, your post about electrode materials was disengious at best. Their patent says they use graphite on the anode and tungten on the cathode. I am in no way defending JOI Scientic's hokey website or claims, but their patents are an interesting rewrite of Stanley Meyers patents. I don't know how they ever got through the patent process. They appear to want to license the technology, but I have not seen any video of proof that they can do it.

@sm0ky2, your post about electrode materials was disengious at best. Their patent says they use graphite on the anode and tungten on the cathode. I am in no way defending JOI Scientic's hokey website or claims, but their patents are an interesting rewrite of Stanley Meyers patents. I don't know how they ever got through the patent process. They appear to want to license the technology, but I have not seen any video of proof that they can do it.

I’m sure they have advanced their technology since I last looked at it.The cell dynamics don’t change much with different choice of electrodes.Variances in potential, ideally we would choose the highest potential withoutcausing a great deal of galvanic destruction.

Tungsten and magnesium are good choices, I’m pretty sure the patentability of this expired 50yrs after the death of Count Volta......

While this system appears to be useful for its’ purpose,I would contest the claims on increased efficiency.They are tricking themselves by adding a secondary power source(electrochemical battery)When taken into account, places the true efficiency of their deviceactually lower than current industry standards.

While this system appears to be useful for its’ purpose,I would contest the claims on increased efficiency.They are tricking themselves by adding a secondary power source(electrochemical battery)When taken into account, places the true efficiency of their deviceactually lower than current industry standards.

They claim 200% which was my first claim but incorrect some years back, the most is 185% in one form and 130% in another. They are also incorrect on what is happening, the power created is from the use of the oxygen to create oxides through a complicated charge complex reaction.

You still produce the same amount of hydrogen (only) and the oxygen creates power for the down time. Not more hydrogen (the same) but for less input cost. Faraday's laws are not broken, same hydrogen but at the reduction cost of the oxygen creating oxides.