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The Vain unfezant is forgotten also instead they use the bland Pidgey family...

Really al the cool pokemon from older games are wasted and forgotten, i'm so happy at least Grumpig made it...

No Shiftry, no Ninetales, No Persian...

Eh, it's a matter of taste. Of the Pokemon left out, there's only a handful I'd ever consider "cool". Unfezant, for example, is a Pokemon I'm happy to see excluded, if its exclusion ensured the inclusion of better-designed birds like Pidgey and Staraptor. I agree with you about Shiftry though. It's been a long time since that thing's been in a regional dex. It deserves a comeback.

Eh, it's a matter of taste. Of the Pokemon left out, there's only a handful I'd ever consider "cool". Unfezant, for example, is a Pokemon I'm happy to see excluded, if its exclusion ensured the inclusion of better-designed birds like Pidgey and Staraptor. I agree with you about Shiftry though. It's been a long time since that thing's been in a regional dex. It deserves a comeback.

It deeply amuses me that Ludicolo is more respected than its version counterpart.

I wouldn't bet on it being on the Kalos Dex though, as Dratini-line, Clamperl-line, Aron-line and Tympole-lines are all very likely to fill the remaining spots as two of them have their members as statues, one of them has a Mega Evolution and the final one has appeared in every single pre-release media ever since the first trailer(which would mean GG Duskull yet again).

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Originally Posted by wilmawong

I thought whipped dream for swirlix, but then I wondered if I wasn't a switch around with aromatisse having a puffy skirt, and slurpuff gaining femininity

also, in X I have only found female Litleo so far despite looking for ages. Could it be gender exclusive? or just a really low percentage of males

For the first part, I doubt they would do a switcheroo when their items are so obvious. For the latter, both cases are likely, but you might need to verify it manually.

Originally Posted by MastersOfMonsters

Btw, Audino has been found, right? Do we know if it's part Fairy yet?

I don't know if anybody actually caught it, the new rustling grass mechanics are rather odd.

Last edited by Trainer Yusuf; 10th October 2013 at 11:36 AM.

This is Turtwig, he was the most under appreciatted starter in Diamond & Pearl. If you picked Turtwig as your starter, put this in your sig . Started by Dax-360

Originally Posted by Teshub

I also read from the bulbagarden thread about the movie that Zorua impersonates Dawn and tries to show Dawn's butt to Ash. Fanservice, foreshadowing?

Originally Posted by Locormus

This show is called Pokemon, not Pochaman.. although that sounds almost the same..

It deeply amuses me that Ludicolo is more respected than its version counterpart.

I wouldn't bet on it being on the Kalos Dex though, as Dratini-line, Clamperl-line, Aron-line and Tympole-lines are all very likely to fill the remaining spots as two of them have their members as statues, one of them has a Mega Evolution and the final one has appeared in every single pre-release media ever since the first trailer(which would mean GG Duskull yet again).

It's always a little weird when they put one version-exclusive counterpart in, but leave the other out. Last time I checked (which was, admittedly, a while ago) Honchkrow was in the dex but Maismagius wasn't.

Do we have much data on Hawlucha's moves yet? I want to know whether it learns Fly and HJK. Both seem like obvious additions to its movepool to me, but you never know with Gamefreak.

Do we have much data on Hawlucha's moves yet? I want to know whether it learns Fly and HJK. Both seem like obvious additions to its movepool to me, but you never know with Gamefreak.

Smogon has them, but they didn't include Fly, which it gets. As far as I know, it doesn't get Hi Jump Kick(as it's Japanese name is "Jumping Knee Kick" and birds' knees don't allow for something like that).

Smogon has them, but they didn't include Fly, which it gets. As far as I know, it doesn't get Hi Jump Kick(as it's Japanese name is "Jumping Knee Kick" and birds' knees don't allow for something like that).

If Vivillon gets one for every US state..what happens when you catch one on a state boarder..

I don't have the game, and there may very well be a Vivillon for every state of America, but I'm inclined to say that there will not be. I know America is highly diverse and I'm sure there will be certain Vivillons to represent a cluster of the 50 states. However, personally, I think it would be unfair and ridiculous for GameFreak to single out one country, considering that there are around 200 countries in the world, and personalise one Pokemon to all of one country's states. I live in Australia, and whilst we have less states than America, I would not expect them to detail Vivillon to the characteristics to each of our country's states.

I have a question. I'm from a different country. However, I'm using UK eShop and my 3DS XL was bought in UK. Plus, my region is set to UK. Does that mean, I'm getting a UK version of Vivillon even though I'm not from UK?

I don't have the game, and there may very well be a Vivillon for every state of America, but I'm inclined to say that there will not be. I know America is highly diverse and I'm sure there will be certain Vivillons to represent a cluster of the 50 states. However, personally, I think it would be unfair and ridiculous for GameFreak to single out one country, considering that there are around 200 countries in the world, and personalise one Pokemon to all of one country's states. I live in Australia, and whilst we have less states than America, I would not expect them to detail Vivillon to the characteristics to each of our country's states.

I don't think the United States will get 50 different Vivillion forms. Especially since this game region is based off France. Plus that would be A LOT of forms. Imo, I don't think Vivillion will get but about 20-30 different forms, if that many. I could be wrong though. (Especially when you look at how many color variations Spinda has.) We will find out on Saturday.

Originally Posted by Darenix

I apologize for my laziness, but what do we know about version exclusives now?

The same. We know the generation 6 exclusives and Mewtwo X/Y and Charizard X/Y.

Originally Posted by WhiteBlair

I have a question. I'm from a different country. However, I'm using UK eShop and my 3DS XL was bought in UK. Plus, my region is set to UK. Does that mean, I'm getting a UK version of Vivillon even though I'm not from UK?

We really don't know for sure how different people are getting different Vivillion forms. If the current theory is correct, then I would assume that you would get the UK Vivillion form. But like I said we really don't know for sure. We will find out soon though.

Does anybody know how early in the game you can obtain Sylveon, Skrelp, Skiddo and the fossil pokemon ?

Sylveon is max Amie, so I guess it takes a few hours? I'm not sure.
The fossil Pokémon are obtained right before or right after defeating the second gym leader.
And I'm not sure about the other two. I heard you get a Fishing Rod early, but I'm not sure if that's true, and I'm not sure if Skrelp can be caught via Rod.

Sylveon is max Amie, so I guess it takes a few hours? I'm not sure.
The fossil Pokémon are obtained right before or right after defeating the second gym leader.
And I'm not sure about the other two. I heard you get a Fishing Rod early, but I'm not sure if that's true, and I'm not sure if Skrelp can be caught via Rod.

Oh I see, thanks! I heard Eevee can be obtained in the wild, do you know in which town?

Oh I see, thanks! I heard Eevee can be obtained in the wild, do you know in which town?

I haven't heard which town because I am trying to keep away from spoilers (except for the Dex spoilers lol).

The first page says Eevee is caught in the Coastal area, so I'm thinking you can catch it pretty early. I would say at least before the 5th or 6th gym. I'm just guessing though, so don't quote me on that

So basically if we wanted a Marine Pattern all we would have to do is change the region to Spain?

Well, I can seemingly only change my region into some other European country: there's no option for Japan or the US. It's probably because of the region lock stuff. So I wouldn't be able to get all the patterns that way at least.