Probably_From_Texas:Why is it so important to coddle and pacify such a small portion of the population?

Is the LBGT lobby really that powerful?

Because that's what we pay our government employees to do, or at least, that's what we should be paying them to do. It's in their rule book:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

To be fair, setting up camp at the clerk's office and refusing to leave is always going to get you a police escort out of the building at the very least. This feels like a planned move to draw attention to the issue.

kudayta:All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws....except for TROLLS

ha-ha-guy:To be fair, setting up camp at the clerk's office and refusing to leave is always going to get you a police escort out of the building at the very least. This feels like a planned move to draw attention to the issue.

Probably_From_Texas:Why is it so important to coddle and pacify such a small portion of the population?

Is the LBGT lobby really that powerful?

African Americans only make up a small percentage of our population. Why did we have to pacify such a small portion of the population......Jews only make up a small percentage of our population. Why did we have to pacify such a small portion of the population......Asians only make up a small percentage of our population. Why did we have to pacify such a small portion of the population......

Guidette Frankentits:kudayta: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws....except for TROLLS

ha-ha-guy:To be fair, setting up camp at the clerk's office and refusing to leave is always going to get you a police escort out of the building at the very least. This feels like a planned move to draw attention to the issue.

ha-ha-guy:To be fair, setting up camp at the clerk's office and refusing to leave is always going to get you a police escort out of the building at the very least. This feels like a planned move to draw attention to the issue.

You are a bright one aren't you? I bet you were top of your class, the slow class.

I wish them well. Not that we ever planned on visiting there, my wife and I could never risk going there now. Since I wouldn't be allowed to make decisions on her behalf, any hospital would probably kill her if she were required to go to one when she was not capable of speaking for herself.

Luckily even the Catholic hospital she has been to here in NYS recognized our relationship as valid, and allowed me in the ICU and consultations, etc. even before we were legally married.

ha-ha-guy:To be fair, setting up camp at the clerk's office and refusing to leave is always going to get you a police escort out of the building at the very least. This feels like a planned move to draw attention to the issue.

Gee, you think? That's exactly what it was, and I commend them for having the guts to do it. this amendment is a travesty form start to finish, and never should have been up for a vote.

ha-ha-guy:To be fair, setting up camp at the clerk's office and refusing to leave is always going to get you a police escort out of the building at the very least. This feels like a planned move to draw attention to the issue.

I seriously don't understand why people are acting this way? Do same-sex marriages somehow mess up other people's marriages? Do these people get special discounts that hetero couples don't get?

And don't even bother bringing up the religious aspect of marriage because if you're using the Old Testament to define marriage congrats you practically want a world where it's Conan The Barbarian vs Genghis Khan.

QU!RK1019:Guidette Frankentits: kudayta: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws....except for TROLLS

LegacyDL:I seriously don't understand why people are acting this way? Do same-sex marriages somehow mess up other people's marriages? Do these people get special discounts that hetero couples don't get?

And don't even bother bringing up the religious aspect of marriage because if you're using the Old Testament to define marriage congrats you practically want a world where it's Conan The Barbarian vs Genghis Khan.

Your inability to comprehend opposition to legal recognition to same-sex unions is a consequence of you not suffering from debilitating mental illness.

someonelse:ha-ha-guy: To be fair, setting up camp at the clerk's office and refusing to leave is always going to get you a police escort out of the building at the very least. This feels like a planned move to draw attention to the issue.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

All emphasis mine.

Didn't the federal government already deprive them of liberty under DOMA?

As a proponent of marriage equality, I have to admit the author of this article bites off a little more than he can chew.

"Whether you are in favor of the amendment that passed earlier this week in North Carolina or against it, the fact remains that it is an illegal, unconstitutional amendment."

How can a constitutional amendment be unconstitutional or illegal? This act defines what the law is. You are free to have the opinion (which I share) that this is an unjust law, but this issue calls for a moral argument, not a legal one. If you mean to suggest that this is unconstitutional because the federal Constitution has jurisdiction over marriage law, not states, then again, this is a perfectly legitimate opinion. But the word "marriage" is not in the federal constitution. If it says anything on the matter, it would be the 10th Amendment, which cedes everything not mentioned explicitly back to the states.

"Put simply, it's not legal for states to take your constitutional rights away, nor is it legal to arrest people for politely asking to be treated as equal citizens under the US Constitution."

These people were arrested for trespassing, not politely asking for a marriage license. They made their statement when they went in and asked for the license. They stayed because they wanted to be arrested so the story would get news coverage. I applaud the fact that they are serious about this cause, but details like this are important. If gay people were actually being arrested for the crime of walking into a court house and requesting a marriage license, I would be much more up in arms about this.

Just chill. In ten years all these conservative old assholes will die and take their ideas with them. No one born after 1970 gives a crap about gay or straight anything. Just do what makes you happy and don't hurt people.

StrangeQ:QU!RK1019: Guidette Frankentits: kudayta: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws....except for TROLLS