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Sheldon Richardson is extended 4yrs/$50mil/$22mil guaranteed (5yrs/$58mil/$30 guaranteed counting this year) with an out after year 3 of 5 (end of 2019 season), below market for squeaky clean Sheldon and an acceptable risk.

The Browns consider Malik Hooker here, but everything Sashi & Co. have done so far (eating extra cap when permissable to gain a pick, big FA signing at team need that is weak in draft, letting Pryor walk after just one good season and wanting too much money etc.) speaks to a calm, intelligent approach. This draft is very deep at FS and very shallow at SS (arguably just Josh Jones & Justin Evans, maybe Eddie Jackson). Adams loves football, has been productive, is very athletic, arguably bpa, hits a huge team need, high character, team leader, and he seems like a guy Gregg Williams would love to "put his hands on".

To me, Derek Barnett is this year's Bosa. I would still take Bosa over him (especially knowing what we know now), but this guy was unstoppable and has a solid resume behind him. He wins with technique and broke Reggie White's all time sack record at Tennessee (an apples-to-apples comparison as opposed to another Tennessee comparison that was made recently. *ahem*).

***trade: NE & NO waste everyone's time by trading back into original order: Malcolm Butler for #32***
(32) NE - Derek Rivers DE - Late riser should be good, huge need

End of round 1. I'm already spent. Onward.

(33) Cleveland Browns select Corey Davis WR, Western Michigan

Hugely productive player, similar player to JG if we move on (but double beast if we somehow keep him). Davis falls a bit because of untimely injury, unable to combine/run. The Browns are happy to grab a top 15-20 player at #33 and solidify the receiving core for years to come.

Bit of a surprise pick but an eye on the future foundation by Sashi & Co. Did not do much at combine and only had 25 lifts--will need to build strength at next level. His strength, however, is his ability to move. He shut down some top pass rushers this past year and only looks to improve. Will turn 23 during season so is still a young pup. Ideal size and length for future LT. With this pick, we are stacked and ready to compete for years to come on our o-line.

***trade: Sashi jumps up to pick back to back top 40 picks per the analytics position dropoff secret big board.: #65, #107 for 51***

(51) Cleveland Browns select Marcus Williams FS, Utah

Great in coverage, ultra twitchy, 4.0 gpa in high school, academic all conference. Oh, and he's only 20 . Good value here and completes our safety tandem. Williams is one of my favorite players in the draft and like him in this scenario.

(52) Cleveland Browns select Alvin Kamara RB, TEN

The Browns not only grab the best defender on Tennessee (and in the nation?) but also grab their best offensive player as well. Made in a test tube, Arnold-Schwarz-in-Twins style, from the DNA of Lesean McCoy & Jamaal Charles. He can seriously ball out. The Browns act on their reported love of Kamara and grab him to be the lightning with Isaiah Crowell, who may or may not be in their future plans (I'm hoping they keep him with Alvin).

***trade: 108 & 175, 2018 5th for 89 from DAL to jump many CB-needy teams about to select.***

(89) Cleveland Browns select Ahkello Witherspoon CB, Colorado

The last available top tier CB is about to go so Sashi & Co. use some draft capital to move ahead and select a player the Browns see as an impact player who will eventually start. Witherspoon has the ideal length (6'3", 195) and explosion to play in today's NFL and matches up well against slot receivers as well.

(145) Cleveland Browns select Chad Kelly QB, Ole Miss

Oh boo to you too! Just had to do a little pre-empting. Kelly has the pedigree, the NFL tools and seems to be maturing. He has been injured and had some serious red flags but might be arguably a first rounder otherwise. He's worth a shot here with little risk. If he stays healthy and matures, he might be the steal of the draft.

(181) Cleveland Browns select Dylan Cole LB, Missouri State
Workout warrior with amazing SPARQ. Looks like an olympic power lifter. Had a solid career and being grabbed for upside. Nice value around these parts.

(185) Cleveland Browns select Michael Roberts TE, Toledo

Great story for this kid. Has been through some adversity and worked hard. He's an absolute monster at 6'4"/270 to perfectly compliment Seth DeValve. That said, Roberts can really move and had a very solid combine. He could be a steal here.

(188) Cleveland Browns select David Jones S, Richmond.

We need safety even more than CB IMO. A later round guy without tons of experience but amazing SPARQ and looked good this year. He is an absolute ball hawk.

Sheldon Richardson is extended 4yrs/$50mil/$22mil guaranteed (5yrs/$58mil/$30 guaranteed counting this year) with an out after year 3 of 5 (end of 2019 season), below market for squeaky clean Sheldon and an acceptable risk.

Not a bad effort at all, unrealistic, but not bad. The Jets traded up for Sanchez once upon a time, so who knows, I just don't see it myself. How could a team make the same mistake 2 times, only the 2nd time much more costly.... oh wait, Browns and QB at pick 22, nevermind, the same mistake can be made forever.

Kelly is a perfect pick where you selected him. Haters gonna hate because they want the next Christian Ponder in round 1. Overlook them._________________But wait! There's more!

Going OT over CB (Humphrey is available if I read correctly) is "not good".

I'd rather take Josh Dobbs twice than Chad Kelly once. Hell, give us the Pipkin kid from Tiffin over Kelly and it's an improvement.

Just a difference in prospect rankings. I don't especially care for Humphrey and would select several corners still available over him--had Witherspoon at #89 in same tier, though I actually prefer Witherspoon in the pros. The OT pick was made simply from a logic standpoint; according to my big board, there is a huge talent drop-off at OT after Ramczyk & there were many CBs of similar rank remaining.

We'll just have to see with Dobbs & Kelly. I'd sig bet you on it, but we won't see any real results to all this for a few years. That said, the Pipkin comment earns a "Come on, Man"._________________

Bonanza23 wrote:

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ditchdigger wrote:

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Not a bad effort at all, unrealistic, but not bad. The Jets traded up for Sanchez once upon a time, so who knows, I just don't see it myself. How could a team make the same mistake 2 times, only the 2nd time much more costly.... oh wait, Browns and QB at pick 22, nevermind, the same mistake can be made forever.

Kelly is a perfect pick where you selected him. Haters gonna hate because they want the next Christian Ponder in round 1. Overlook them.

I take it as your highest praise that my mock did not earn a visit from Blaine & Anton . The trade down itself was fairly standard value for a trade down fro a QB #1 from #6. I agree that I wouldn't want to be on the trade-up end, but someone did it for both 1 and 2 last year for QBs that were arguably no better than these. I think Trubs will be better than Ponder, but I don't see a clear first rounder in any of these guys. Why does everyone hate Chad Kelly so much? I still don't understand. If this was the morality police, I would understand, but so many are on Mixon's jock. What gives?_________________

Bonanza23 wrote:

kute kittuh

ditchdigger wrote:

DGB thinks people ought to pay for photobucket, but Based Gordon wants it to be free.

Not a bad effort at all, unrealistic, but not bad. The Jets traded up for Sanchez once upon a time, so who knows, I just don't see it myself. How could a team make the same mistake 2 times, only the 2nd time much more costly.... oh wait, Browns and QB at pick 22, nevermind, the same mistake can be made forever.

Kelly is a perfect pick where you selected him. Haters gonna hate because they want the next Christian Ponder in round 1. Overlook them.

It's only a matter of time before somebody figures out which account you used to be.

Also something else I noticed with the depth chart. Where is Demario Davis? I think he will be really good in the new system along with Kirksey and Collins, and a good front 4 in front of them._________________But wait! There's more!

Going OT over CB (Humphrey is available if I read correctly) is "not good".

I'd rather take Josh Dobbs twice than Chad Kelly once. Hell, give us the Pipkin kid from Tiffin over Kelly and it's an improvement.

I think Ramczyk is a better prospect than Humphrey so whilst the need is far stronger in the secondary than on the OL, I would like the value. He completes a monster line at RT and by the time Thomas hangs it up, Ramczyk would likely be in for a second contract and a move to LT.

Going OT over CB (Humphrey is available if I read correctly) is "not good".

I'd rather take Josh Dobbs twice than Chad Kelly once. Hell, give us the Pipkin kid from Tiffin over Kelly and it's an improvement.

I think Ramczyk is a better prospect than Humphrey so whilst the need is far stronger in the secondary than on the OL, I would like the value. He completes a monster line at RT and by the time Thomas hangs it up, Ramczyk would likely be in for a second contract and a move to LT.

It just makes no sense to go OL high. Sashi said so himself yesterday that is the one group they don't see adding to early.

Going OT over CB (Humphrey is available if I read correctly) is "not good".

I'd rather take Josh Dobbs twice than Chad Kelly once. Hell, give us the Pipkin kid from Tiffin over Kelly and it's an improvement.

Just a difference in prospect rankings. I don't especially care for Humphrey and would select several corners still available over him--had Witherspoon at #89 in same tier, though I actually prefer Witherspoon in the pros. The OT pick was made simply from a logic standpoint; according to my big board, there is a huge talent drop-off at OT after Ramczyk & there were many CBs of similar rank remaining.

We'll just have to see with Dobbs & Kelly. I'd sig bet you on it, but we won't see any real results to all this for a few years. That said, the Pipkin comment earns a "Come on, Man".

Pipkin will have a better pro career. Similar to Seneca Wallace. Kelly will be cut from his first team by year two, then out of the league after his 5th team cuts him in year 4 or 5, then he goes on to the CFL. Similar to John Beck.

No need for a sig bet, because if the Browns draft Kelly I will delete the account. I'll probably come back as "Jizzy Gene" or something like that. The World's #1 Chad Kelly Fan.

Going OT over CB (Humphrey is available if I read correctly) is "not good".

I'd rather take Josh Dobbs twice than Chad Kelly once. Hell, give us the Pipkin kid from Tiffin over Kelly and it's an improvement.

Just a difference in prospect rankings. I don't especially care for Humphrey and would select several corners still available over him--had Witherspoon at #89 in same tier, though I actually prefer Witherspoon in the pros. The OT pick was made simply from a logic standpoint; according to my big board, there is a huge talent drop-off at OT after Ramczyk & there were many CBs of similar rank remaining.

We'll just have to see with Dobbs & Kelly. I'd sig bet you on it, but we won't see any real results to all this for a few years. That said, the Pipkin comment earns a "Come on, Man".

Pipkin will have a better pro career. Similar to Seneca Wallace. Kelly will be cut from his first team by year two, then out of the league after his 5th team cuts him in year 4 or 5, then he goes on to the CFL. Similar to John Beck.

No need for a sig bet, because if the Browns draft Kelly I will delete the account. I'll probably come back as "Jizzy Gene" or something like that. The World's #1 Chad Kelly Fan.

Wait, weren't you the guy that tried to bust my chops early on for stating my own opinion as fact?

Just checking. I tend to disagree with your assessment of Kelly entirely. It could happen, yes. But he has as good of a chance as any QB in this draft of being a franchise guy. Pipkin..... not so much._________________But wait! There's more!

Going OT over CB (Humphrey is available if I read correctly) is "not good".

I'd rather take Josh Dobbs twice than Chad Kelly once. Hell, give us the Pipkin kid from Tiffin over Kelly and it's an improvement.

Just a difference in prospect rankings. I don't especially care for Humphrey and would select several corners still available over him--had Witherspoon at #89 in same tier, though I actually prefer Witherspoon in the pros. The OT pick was made simply from a logic standpoint; according to my big board, there is a huge talent drop-off at OT after Ramczyk & there were many CBs of similar rank remaining.

We'll just have to see with Dobbs & Kelly. I'd sig bet you on it, but we won't see any real results to all this for a few years. That said, the Pipkin comment earns a "Come on, Man".

Pipkin will have a better pro career. Similar to Seneca Wallace. Kelly will be cut from his first team by year two, then out of the league after his 5th team cuts him in year 4 or 5, then he goes on to the CFL. Similar to John Beck.

No need for a sig bet, because if the Browns draft Kelly I will delete the account. I'll probably come back as "Jizzy Gene" or something like that. The World's #1 Chad Kelly Fan.

You would delete your account if we drafted Chad Kelly in the 5th round? How are you about us drafting Mixon at #52 or #65?_________________

Bonanza23 wrote:

kute kittuh

ditchdigger wrote:

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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:58 pm Post subject:

Well, the best thing about taking Ramczyk at 37, is that while he is on the depth chart in the "consolidated" draft, he isn't actually listed amongst the picks.

Maybe the folks that are interested in Humphrey can get him on the board?

With regards to the Jets going up to one for a QB, the GM has only been on the job since January of 2015. He picked Hackenberg, but not Sanchez. Can't indict him for that one.

(Kind of how Sashi and gang are indicted for every lousy pick that the previous regimes have made over the last 18 seasons. Guy hadn't even gone to Law School yet when we came back into the league.)_________________'14 1st Ballot Recipient of Joe Blackburn Award... A team is built thru the draft. NASA Glenn, we have ignition in Berea.