the first black op was OFF THE CHAIN!!!!!!!!!! but MW3 blew balls. I hope it is a perfect mix of black ops 1 and MW2 those were by far the most amazing of the whole series. i didn't pre buy (waste of cash for a map pack...) it but i will get it when it comes out when i get a chance to get to a store.

Ya the new point system for killstreaks I like, so assists and actually playing the objective will get your killstreak rewards too. I'm on the fence on Black Ops 1, loved MW2. In other words I'll probably get it, just may wait until I'm tired of Warfighter. Probably just in time for Battlefield 4 to make it more complicated.

would you recommend spending cash on it? i have battlefield that im still playing quite often. not sure if i should spend the money yet but im getting a good vibe

I had no problem spending 60 bucks on it because I'm a COD fan. I mean it is really fun but very different from battlefield. I definitely like it more than the first black ops but I still think the modern warfares are better. I'd say get it if you're bored of your battlefield.

I think the way they totally changed your gear layout is pretty interesting, plus the addition of an actual endpoint to zombies instead of just go until you die is pretty intriguing.

My son is getting it so I basically get it for free. Even if it sucks I'm not out any coin

Son's money your money.. it's pretty much the same its within the fam.. no?

Is this true and endpoint in Zombie mode? oh man...definitely gonna be playing this till we hit that.. I just know it.

Well he is technically my step son but he has been my son for the past 8 years, but his biological dad pays his allowance so really it isn't my money

Played it a bit yesterday, I actually really like the way you can totally customize your layout. I also enjoy the map much more than the maps in MW3. I agree with Zakk that grenade throws are better but I disagree about the graphics, I think they are very clean, and they have much better use of different lighting. Plus the echos on the canyon level are pretty cool. Plus the way you earn killsteaks/scorestreaks makes playing objectives and shooting down enemy support more rewarding.

I mock your value system and you look foolish in the eyes of others. - Homer Simpson

One thing I will say as a negative is spawn killing, especially on the ship level is still fairly rampant. I got the new gunner ship on the boat and was basically able to completely annihilate the other team at their spawn point at the other end of the ship while my team was planting the bombs demolition. I racked up like 25 kills in about a minute. It's a pretty small map and probably the only one where you could pull that off, but shame on them for not shooting me down.

I mock your value system and you look foolish in the eyes of others. - Homer Simpson

One thing I will say as a negative is spawn killing, especially on the ship level is still fairly rampant. I got the new gunner ship on the boat and was basically able to completely annihilate the other team at their spawn point at the other end of the ship while my team was planting the bombs demolition. I racked up like 25 kills in about a minute. It's a pretty small map and probably the only one where you could pull that off, but shame on them for not shooting me down.

Played for about 8 hours last night and yeah, the spawn points are completely F'd up. IN typical tryarch style, working on weapons is now useless as you need f'n coins to get unlocks. The point style kill streaks is interesting, not sold on it yet.

The guns are all screwed up. sniper riles can be fired off with almost no recoil, the sub machine gun class is way overpowered (as it has been in the past 3 titles). Hardcore game mode only has 3 team based game modes, and if you're playing the little girl regular modes, it takes an entire clip to get their screen red and you have to pray another team mate is also firing and you get the kill bullet.

One thing I will say as a negative is spawn killing, especially on the ship level is still fairly rampant. I got the new gunner ship on the boat and was basically able to completely annihilate the other team at their spawn point at the other end of the ship while my team was planting the bombs demolition. I racked up like 25 kills in about a minute. It's a pretty small map and probably the only one where you could pull that off, but shame on them for not shooting me down.

Played for about 8 hours last night and yeah, the spawn points are completely F'd up. IN typical tryarch style, working on weapons is now useless as you need f'n coins to get unlocks. The point style kill streaks is interesting, not sold on it yet.

The guns are all screwed up. sniper riles can be fired off with almost no recoil, the sub machine gun class is way overpowered (as it has been in the past 3 titles). Hardcore game mode only has 3 team based game modes, and if you're playing the little girl regular modes, it takes an entire clip to get their screen red and you have to pray another team mate is also firing and you get the kill bullet.

I'm already over it.

I definitely noticed unless you want to unload a whole clip on someone you have to fire upper torso or head. Leg/lower torso shots are basically worthless. Guns always get nerfed later on in updates, but agreed, there is really no point in using any Assult Rifles, at least any I have unlocked by level 20 at this point. I would think more hardcore modes will be added later too.

You only need tokens to unlock the gun initially, you earn all the attachments by using them. What I'm not sure of is if those attachments stay unlocked after prestige, which from what I heard I think they do. I have heard complaining about the token system but personally I don't have a problem with it.

Zakk check your PM.

I mock your value system and you look foolish in the eyes of others. - Homer Simpson

Oh yea, this game..I skipped school yesterday to play campaign and frankly, im a little disappointed. As any character, you survive absolutely everything. Its horribly unrealistic. But then again, it is based in the future. It did have a good plot.
In the end id give it
8.9/10 : New weapons and features
9.0/10 : Graphics
7.2/10 : Story(very short, beat in 8 hours)

If you have PS3, no rush to get this game. There is so many problems with multiplayer. I played till level 11 and cant even get in a game anymore.

Yep, I was on for about an hour and got booted, but my son can get right on. The funny part is I can even try and log in as a secondary player with my ID on his profile and still can't get in. Activision definitely has some splan'n to do!

I mock your value system and you look foolish in the eyes of others. - Homer Simpson

If you have PS3, no rush to get this game. There is so many problems with multiplayer. I played till level 11 and cant even get in a game anymore.

Yep, I was on for about an hour and got booted, but my son can get right on. The funny part is I can even try and log in as a secondary player with my ID on his profile and still can't get in. Activision definitely has some splan'n to do!

Its very annoying cause I can play with other accounts but not on my main one I started with.

If you have PS3, no rush to get this game. There is so many problems with multiplayer. I played till level 11 and cant even get in a game anymore.

Yep, I was on for about an hour and got booted, but my son can get right on. The funny part is I can even try and log in as a secondary player with my ID on his profile and still can't get in. Activision definitely has some splan'n to do!

Its very annoying cause I can play with other accounts but not on my main one I started with.

I heard it had to do with anyone that setup Elite, like myself.

I mock your value system and you look foolish in the eyes of others. - Homer Simpson

If you have PS3, no rush to get this game. There is so many problems with multiplayer. I played till level 11 and cant even get in a game anymore.

Yep, I was on for about an hour and got booted, but my son can get right on. The funny part is I can even try and log in as a secondary player with my ID on his profile and still can't get in. Activision definitely has some splan'n to do!

Its very annoying cause I can play with other accounts but not on my main one I started with.

I heard it had to do with anyone that setup Elite, like myself.

Hmm really? Thats weird.

Well both accounts on my PS3 that have Elite don't work. But the other one works fine so it could be it.

I've been playing the CoD series since the very first one, and finally got bored of the series after MW2. Black Ops 2 doesn't look much different than any of the games in the series since MW1, so if you still like the series go for it.

i was actually able to run through the mist from town to town if i just pushed the crap out of the B button a million times when those things attacked. the stupid bus kept leaving so i would follow it around while running after it pressing B.

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