Great chapter! And there we have it, the explanation on Naruto's ability to pass chakra which is being an Uzumaki so I guess it's safe to assume that is clan's ability. For Lee, his speed made Madara O_O, awesome! And about Obito, during the time when Rasen Shuriken passed through him, did Kakashi use kamui on him as well? If he did, Obito is hurt?

The only bad thing I have to say about the chapter was the fact that Madara didn't use the Rinnegan at all and allowed the control over the juubi to be lost, maybe he could have used Shinra Tensei with his unlimited chakra! Now we can sort of expect to see Juubi awaken and have a talk with the Kyuubi and Hacibi.

January 23, 2013, 01:14 AM

enmymiguel

Re: Naruto 617 Discussion / 618 Predictions

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Originally Posted by so6pww

Welcome to the civilization - no offense, it took you the entire series to see that.

Reconnecting will do nothing because Ino and Shikamaru have already taken control of it. The only problem is that they will either not last long as stated by Shikamaru or Juubi will transformed. However, don't forget that Naruto is Jinchuriki. He can connect with Juubi in the consciousness for an epic war that will end with Juubi being locked in the Rikudo seal.

Ohh thank you. But i knew if someone use the power of the fox. They abilily will be stronger. But time what? In this chapter we find out. X3. Now it look like you knew about this all alone. Why didnt you tell us last chapter that hinata attack was strong cause it was x3 the power . While we here why you tell me who is sasuke meeting since you know the sherlock

January 23, 2013, 01:16 AM

c420smokey

Re: Naruto 617 Discussion / 618 Predictions

the bird was basically a manifestation of nejis will remember in pre time skip he was always comparing himself to a bird being caged, well when obito built the makeshift cage to compare it to the hyuugas situation that bird ripped through the cage, also showing neji himslef broke through the cage known as the branch and main hyuugas situation,

January 23, 2013, 01:19 AM

toussaintac

Re: Naruto 617 Discussion / 618 Predictions

So, Naruto sealed Kyubi chakra in the alliance? That is pretty amazing if true. That means they'll be able to use that up until the time they die, right? I'd have to imagine that the chakra makes them 3 times stronger based on it likely being the same amount given to each person; not necessarily that they just received some chakra. I'm sure Naruto is way stronger than 3 times his normal ability with the majority of Kyuubi's chakra and much better control of it.

January 23, 2013, 01:19 AM

StarkPoseidon

Re: Naruto 617 Discussion / 618 Predictions

The Good:

Obito barely speaks. Hallelujah.

Naruto's line: Unlike you, I don't want to let go of my bonds.

Kakashi and Shikaku's conversation is revealed.

Madara and Obito are punished for standing and preaching instead of actually doing anything.

Kyuubi's part. It was quite funny when he said: You two lost to this brat He he he.

The Bad:

What the heck is in Kishi's head these days? How on earth can he sideline the Rinnegan like this? Just...how?! Madara could have stopped the entire army by using a giant Shinra Tensei!

He could have stopped Naruto's FRS by Preta Path. I mean seriously what the eff is going on?!

Obito is still speaking. I want him to shut up completely.

The crap about bonds. THIS IS NOT FAIRY TAIL!!!

I apologize for the capslock.

Where the hell did Orochimaru and gang get their coats? I mean seriously what the heck is going on in Kishi's head.

The Ugly

Obito Uchiha

Overall better than 616 but then again, Bleach's Fullbring arc was better than Naruto 616...so it's not a standard.

Sasuke's arrival is good. And the fact that we've reached the stage where Sasuke is being associated with a good chapter...shows how far the other half of the story has fallen.

January 23, 2013, 01:21 AM

Devil_Beast1109

Re: Naruto 617 Discussion / 618 Predictions

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Originally Posted by toussaintac

It's possible that that may have stopped Naruto's attack from breaking the connection. Just go for breaking the connection first. Worry about every thing else when they've crossed that bridge.

True, but now I wonder why Naruto didn't think of using that shadow FRS thing he did against Pain? Both would have passed through Obito but since one's obviously enough to break the connection the other one could've been sent to Obito's dimension to take him out.

January 23, 2013, 01:28 AM

toussaintac

Re: Naruto 617 Discussion / 618 Predictions

so, now that kakashi has Kyubi sealed inside him, would be cool to see what he does with his MS and/or what he can do if he gets both eyes.

January 23, 2013, 01:29 AM

M3J

Re: Naruto 617 Discussion / 618 Predictions

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Originally Posted by Devil_Beast1109

You are right & now that I think about it, couldn't Kakashi use Kamui on Naruto's FRS to make it hit Obito's transported stomach?

Looks like Kishi wants to keep prolonging the fight some more.

No, I think the goal was to severe the connection between Tobi and the Juubi, otherwise I"m sure Kakashi would have used his Kamui. Actually, I think you're right because if Kakashi did use Kamui, it'd have killed Tobi.

We're probably seein Tobi turn good eventually.

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Originally Posted by so6pww

I don't have any bias against Sasuke, but I dislike the way his fan discuss. They are usually ignorant of the rest of the manga, and worse they so caught in fanboyism that they cannot even give a good analysis of Sasuke himself. For example, you are talking about a mysterious person. My opinion is that they will meet some dead uchiha. The reason is that Sasuke knew what he wanted Orochimaru to do. Orochimaru said that Sasuke know the place they are going. This indicate that the person they going to see is someone Sasuke cannot see by himself. This in turn suggest Edo Tensei.

I can say the same for people who constantly praise Naruto and are his fans though. They tend to be ignorant and bunch of hypocrites, attacking Sasuke constantly but letting Naruto get away with stuff. And I've seen quite a few Sasuke fans give good analysis of Sasuke. I'm not sure, but Delbi doesn't seem to hate Sasuke, but he always gives a good analysis on him. I don't like Sasuke, does that mean I'll give bad analysis of him and be horribly biased against him? I like Naruto, or liked Naruto, and apparently you like Naruto too, so does that mean we'll give bad analysis of Naruto? Well, I haven't given bad analysis of Naruto.

So far, you're just namecalling people whose opinions you don't like and refusing to understand their point of view because it doesn't agree with yours. So far, almost every post of yours I've seen actually supports what I'm saying.

You have shown dislike of Sasuke, not his fans. You accuse others of sayin things that they never said, and you bring up Sasuke a lot. I don't recall anyone ever saying Sasuke would save the day or solo Madara or the trio by himself. In fact, nearly everyone has mentioned Sasuke joining Naruto and them fighting together.

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If we consider Orochimaru's lifespan, he can only have the DNA of the kages and the Uchiha. Until now, the Kages are all sealed in Reaper seal, and for normal edo tensei, only the Uchiha are left. Now, if we add the discussion of Itachi with Sasuke, and the fact that Sasuke's parents were the instigators of the coup d'etat, and if we add the fact that Orochimaru said that Sasuke is too young for what he wants, I can only think of his father and maybe his father partners.

To me, Sasuke's father will be the best to tell the truth to Sasuke because if Sasuke did not trust Itachi and Obito, I doubt he will trust the Senju and Konoha.

If we consider Kabuto's lifespan, and when he joined Orochimaru, then it'd make sense that Orochimaru would have far more DNA than you think he does. If Kabuto was able to get at least ten DNA, especially of those who were dead decades prior, in just less than a year, then Orochimaru could easily get 50.

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Note: I have no biased in my argument, and I always give facts or give reasons for my speculations. However, you guys only spam your wishes without any basis ignoring all the manga.

Um, you do have strong bias in your argument. That much is pretty clear, whether you want to see it or not.

I still get the feelin you're trolling, considering how hypocritical you make yourself to be, and your arguments.

January 23, 2013, 01:32 AM

c420smokey

Re: Naruto 617 Discussion / 618 Predictions

I think them being hooked up to the juubi, has stopped them from using there abilities, because they are using there chakra to control it, also I do enjoy sasuke when he isnt getting powers handed to him, I hated the last part of his fight with deidera summonig manda out of the blue when he had no chakra left and his fight against danzo pulling out a magical bird, if anything his summons should be cat related since they seem to have ninja cats for uchihas

January 23, 2013, 01:35 AM

Bloomerwedgies

Re: Naruto 617 Discussion / 618 Predictions

Weirdness:

Sasuke: Where did we get these cloaks? I don't remember stopping at the Renaissance Faire.Orochimaru: Hmm...witchcraft?Sasuke: Meh, works for me. Wait a minute, why do you look so...square-ish??Orochimaru: If you must know, I am smuggling a picture frame across the border.Sasuke: ...Orochimaru: If you can think of a better way, I'd like to hear it.Sasuke: I ...no, it's fine. *sidelong glance*Orochimaru: Take that, United Ninja Picture Framers Association! Mwah ha ha.

His most evil act to date!

January 23, 2013, 01:36 AM

StarkPoseidon

Re: Naruto 617 Discussion / 618 Predictions

Another thing I forgot to cover:

Since when did Orochimaru have such ridiculously square shoulders? I know this is a nitpick but seriously...what's happening to Kishi these days?

Oh I forgot to add to the Good part of this chapter: Lee kicking Madara. Priceless.

January 23, 2013, 01:39 AM

shafagh

Re: Naruto 617 Discussion / 618 Predictions

well , even though I really don't like this bird qb chakra but at least story move forward ... ( that was simply too boring .... )

now kishi can freely change the side of story and focus on Sasuke .... and they are in ruined village .... I bet it is UZUMAKI village ....

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Sasuke: Where did we get these cloaks? I don't remember stopping at the Renaissance Faire.
Orochimaru: Hmm...witchcraft?
Sasuke: Meh, works for me. Wait a minute, why do you look so...square-ish??
Orochimaru: If you must know, I am smuggling a picture frame across the border.
Sasuke: ...
Orochimaru: If you can think of a better way, I'd like to hear it.
Sasuke: I ...no, it's fine. *sidelong glance*
Orochimaru: Take that, United Ninja Picture Framers Association! Mwah ha ha.

since they can summon weapon , they can also summon cloak .... all of them are wanted criminal so it is logic to have some cloaks .... I mean this is stupid for sasuke to walk in cities with Uchiha crest in his back ... and why you don't bash about this asspull bird no jutsu and Madara dumbness in this chapter !?

January 23, 2013, 01:39 AM

toussaintac

Re: Naruto 617 Discussion / 618 Predictions

Maybe Oro has been lifting weights and it broadened his shoulders.

January 23, 2013, 01:40 AM

M3J

Re: Naruto 617 Discussion / 618 Predictions

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Originally Posted by toussaintac

So, Naruto sealed Kyubi chakra in the alliance? That is pretty amazing if true. That means they'll be able to use that up until the time they die, right? I'd have to imagine that the chakra makes them 3 times stronger based on it likely being the same amount given to each person; not necessarily that they just received some chakra. I'm sure Naruto is way stronger than 3 times his normal ability with the majority of Kyuubi's chakra and much better control of it.

I don't think he did. He can't do that anyway, and even fi he did, the chakra isn't limitless, it'll run out. There's no way for it to be restored without the actual Kyuubi being there.

January 23, 2013, 01:44 AM

toussaintac

Re: Naruto 617 Discussion / 618 Predictions

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Originally Posted by shafagh

well , even though I really don't like this bird qb chakra but at least story move forward ... ( that was simply too boring .... )

now kishi can freely change the side of story and focus on Sasuke .... and they are in ruined village .... I bet it is UZUMAKI village ....

WOW. You may be right. I didn't think of that at all. Wonder who exactly they will be looking for and why that person is still there in the village. If they can feel it's chakra, is it alive or sealed or what? Is it someone we know about already? Only person I could think of is Rikudou. Maybe they are going there to retrieve leftover chakra/DNA in order to Edo Tensei to ask questions or they'll somehow summon him or whoever to ask questions. Will be really interesting.