Cyd St. Vincent has his sights set high. In addition to big plans for making a success out of his new porn company, Bonus Hole Boys, which specializes in scenes featuring sexy transmen like himself and hung gay men, Cyd’s also got a celebrity co-star he hopes one day to land. “A lot of people tell me that I look like the gay guy from Glee, Chris Colfer,” he explains, laughing. “I’d like to do a twincest porn with him. That would break some minds. I can’t sing though. I would have to pound the ass and he could carry the tune.”

Breaking people’s minds open seems to be the larger goal of BHB, specifically, expanding people’s views of what trans guys and gay guys sexual lives could look like. “I think the beauty of queer sex is you don’t just have to say, ‘This is the only type of body that I’m attracted to,'” he insists. “Most people are happier when they allow themselves that room.” The idea for the company began in the mind of Ex Libris, Cyd’s friend and the company’s sole financier. Cyd’s work as an in-demand Rentboy and activist made him a natural person for Libris to partner up with, and he’d long dreamed of starting a porn company as well. Though the company only has a handful of scenes currently up online, they’re hot scenes influenced by directors like Joe Gage and Jake Jaxson. In “Casting Couch,” a fairly traditional porn set up — the casting director and the aspiring porn star — is made tense by Cyd’s nervousness over revealing his pussy. It’s raw, subversive and very sexy. I called Cyd on Sunday in San Francisco, to talk about his atypical trans background, how he handles negative reactions, and how he hopes to distinguish BHB from the work of more established trans porn stars like Buck Angel.

Adam: Tell me a little bit about your background. Where are you from?

I grew up in a combination of New Mexico and Australia. Among the most important things in my personal background is that I’ve been a sex worker for about 10 years. I’ve also done a lot of sex worker activism. I work at a public health clinic now for current and former sex workers. I’ve done activism around HIV issues, social justice, that kind of stuff. I’m also a writer.

How did you first begin to understand that you were trans?

I grew up in a time where the only people I saw being trans were trans women on Jerry Springer and though something about it was really alluring, I didn’t really understand how trans women portrayed in a sensationalistic fashion related to me as a young girl. I always felt like an ‘other’ and it wasn’t until I moved to Australia and started going out in the queer community more that I met someone who was a trans guy. I was like, oh, that’s intriguing to me in a way that I couldn’t really place yet. But as soon as I started fucking trans guys I was like, oh maybe this is what I am. You become the thing you fuck. Which is something I think many gay men can relate to. But I still was having sex with trans men then, as a cis-gendered women. I didn’t know many trans guys who were gay and I’ve always been attracted to men. I didn’t really understand how I fit into that. I think a lot of people conflate sexuality and gender. They assume that all trans people are transitioning to become straight in a way, which I think is a really heterosexist narrative or culture that we grew up in. The idea that I could transition to male and still be attracted to men was something that I had to learn to understand that it was possible and find. My sexuality and gender are separate things. So when I kind of saw that reflected around me, I was like, oh ok, this is who I am. That’s when I started transitioning. That was about seven years ago.

Your story sounds atypical to most of the transmale narratives I’ve heard. You didn’t have the thing where you felt more like you were a boy from an early age?

I do have a kind of atypical narrative. I remember when I was really young having some gender feelings that seemed really different from my peers but I think I kinda learned to repress that pretty quickly in order to exist in the world.

You transitioned about seven years ago. Take me through how the process went. What kind of procedures you had, if that’s okay to ask?

Yeah. I started hormones about six months after coming out and then I got top surgery in 2009. I transitioned a little bit slower than I probably would have done on my own because as a sex worker my primary income was escorting. At that time there really wasn’t a market for transman escorts. I needed to figure out how to go about combining that — what I need to look like and be like to get money and then also what I need to be like and look like for mental health and exist in the world the way I want to.

How different is your body now from then, in terms of your physique and your musculature?

It’s pretty different. I’m a really hairy person now. That’s one of the biggest things. I was never a voluptuous girl so it’s not a huge change in that way, but after taking testosterone I started getting really big muscles. My biceps just popped. It’s really interesting to inhabit a body that changes not because of your lifestyle but because of a difference in the chemicals going on in your body. There’s kind of this trope of like, transmen who do these YouTube video like “I’ve been on T for 12 days and 4 hours and this is what’s happening.” In a way those narratives, you’re like okay, not everyone needs to know about your fourth chest hair, but it is a really amazing process that does take a lot of your mental capacity. Wow, every day that I wake up there’s something that’s slightly different about my body that’s going to an end result that I don’t know yet. It’s really a fascinating process.

It sounds like a kind of a rebirth that you watch outside yourself. You’re changing moment by moment but also observing how you’re changing.

That’s true. For every second as we’re talking right now we’re getting older and living and dying and all that kind of stuff. I think that to exist in the world you have to get out of that mindset and taking hormones puts you back into that. With gender dysphoria, a lot of people who are trans spend a lot of years feeling disconnected from their bodies, and then hormones tunnel vision you right back into your body.

You didn’t decide to do the bottom surgery, why did you make that decision?

I mean there’s a couple different reasons. I don’t personally like the options that are available for bottom surgery and also they’re incredibly expensive. Also I’m really very happy with what I got. I feel really lucky that I don’t have gender dysphoria about having a pussy. I think that socially it gets awkward at times inhabiting gay male spaces and not have a penis. That can be distressing, but for myself and my own sexuality, I am really happy with what I got.

I think it’s interesting for instance, in the “Casting Couch” video on your site, the tension is about if you’re going to reveal that part of you, and what is that going to mean in terms of this scenario…

Yeah. I kind of wrote that scene based around experiences I’ve had. A lot of times when I come out at trans, the situation is not ideal. Someone will start crying.

People have started crying?

Yeah. This is really funny. I hooked up with this guy in New York once. It was funny because it was at a trans man party, but apparently he wasn’t that bright and didn’t think that it was possible that I was a trans man. So we were making out, blah blah blah, went to a hotel room that we got. He was like, “I want you to piss on me.” I was like, “Okay!” He’d also snorted some Adderall so he was being a little intense. Then he got in the bathtub and I got up and started peeing on him and he started crying. I was like, “Okay girl, what’s going on with you?” He was like, “I didn’t know that you were trans,” and started flipping out about it. I was like, “Okay well that’s a personal problem.” (laughs) I gave a lot of indicators that I was trans even if I didn’t specifically say, “I am a transsexual male,” I alluded to it.

“Trigger Warning! I need to disclose something to you…”

Haha. Yeah. It’s frustrating that I often have to do that. Sometimes it is appropriate. I don’t want to be getting into a bedroom with someone who doesn’t know what anatomy I have. But it’s a very frustrating process I have to go to, to be like all the time, “Okay you’re attracted to me, we’re getting along great, but you know, here you go, I actually have a vagina.” It causes different reactions. Sometimes people are just fine with it. I have hooked up with people in the backs of bars. I have had a lot of queer casual encounters in public spaces that I never would have had the confidence to earlier. But also sometimes it’s like I’ve told people that in the backs of bars, and suddenly I’m in Heathers and everyone starts whispering and pointing at me. It’s like okay…

When did the idea to start a porn company come into play?

I have wanted to start a porn company for a really long time. I decided to do it with my friend Ex Libris, who originally came up with the idea for Bonus Hole Boys. But I think the imagery is really important and there wasn’t a lot of imagery. Buck Angel has been around for a long time doing porn with cisgendered men, but my gender and sexuality aren’t attractive to some people. Some people are like “I only like dick,” and that’s fine. But I think that many gay men are interested in trans men but they don’t let themselves be, and I think that creating images that show trans men having sex with other gay men can unravel some of that.

I’ve had sex with one trans guy, and it was an incredibly enjoyable experience, and I was very turned on in a different way. It was a way where I felt both excited by not being bound up in the gay thing. It was an exciting and moving experience.

That makes sense. A lot of cis gay guys will say, “Well I’m a top, and I like bottoms, so you’re perfect.” It doesn’t complicate their sexuality any more than that. They’re like, you’re a dude with an extra hole for me to fuck and top. But I also think that we have really rigid ideas around sexuality, like either you’re gay or straight or you might be bi or we’re going to be kind of shady to you about it. Once you’re gay or straight you can’t do anything out of that box. I think the beauty of queer sex is you don’t just have to say, “This is the only type of body that I’m attracted to.” You can be attracted to multiple types of bodies and have different types of experiences. Most people are happier when they allow themselves that room, and it’s like also true within gay male circles, people who say, “I’m only gonna have sex with twinks or gay muscle bears.” They miss out on people who don’t fit that narrow physical image of all they’re into. Bodies matter but also other things matter.

When I had sex with this trans man, which is my admittedly limited frame of reference, I really wanted to fuck them, but they were like, “not tonight, I’m not ready.” I got the impression that they did not want to use the front hole to get fucked, they wanted to get fucked in the ass and maybe were not prepared. I’m curious, do trans guys who have sex with men use their pussy more than their anus, and in your porn are you going to have anal sex as well as vaginal sex?

Yeah. In our shoots we’re gonna have both. Probably for our site it’s probably going to be people who are comfortable having vaginal sex. That’s what I’m interested in showing. But all trans men are different. I can’t be like, “Most people are into this, or that.” A lot of trans guys I know have never used their front hole. They’re not interested in it. They’re never going to be interested in it. And that’s fine. That is what works for them. But I happen to be different and some people I know happen to be comfortable with that, but that’s by no means a rule. I don’t want people watching Bonus Hole Boys to be like “Oh this is what all trans guys are into.” That would be a fallacy the same way learning lessons from any porn scene would be. “I watched a girl get jackhammered in straight porn so I’m going to do that to someone I just met.” I also think that a lot of anxiety comes up for trans men in sleeping with gay men, that the gay men they are sleeping with will feminize that dynamic or say something sketchy or treat them weird.

You mentioned Buck Angel. Has his presence made it easier for you to establish your business? And are there things in your work that you’re trying to make distinctive from his?

I think he does great work and he’s been doing porn for a really long time and definitely has laid the groundwork for other companies to arise and helped people to understand that trans men who have sex with men exist. When I do escorting a lot of the time people will be like, “I’m a fan of Buck Angel’s.” I think that in our porn we want to show a big variety of different kinds of transmen and different kinds of sex. We’re doing a lot of role-play stuff. Daddy-boy role play. Cruising scenes. Fratboy initiations. BDSM stuff. So we’re trying to create, what would the right phrase be? A rich, diverse environment for different kinds of gay sex with trans men.

Beyond Buck Angel do you have other trans porn stars who are inspirations?

James Darling has a site called FTM Fucker, which always includes one trans men in each shoot. There’s a variety of different content. Some of it’s straight, some gay, some trans, some queer. He’s been doing really good work. I really appreciate his website and what it brings. Then I know that Bailey Jay who’s a trans woman, she’s starting a website that’s kind of about different types of trans bodies in porn. It’s gonna have some trans men, some genderfluid folks. I’m excited to see what comes of that. Crash Pad has done porn with trans men for years and years. None of those sites are specifically gay-only content though.

Are there gay porn stars or directors that you follow and look to as models for what you’re doing?

I’m really into 70’s gay porn. That’s kind of the aesthetic that I’m interested in. So Joe Gage is kind of where we are taking a lot of our cues. I really like the work of Colby Keller. Been trying to poach him for a while. I think Cockyboys is so beautiful. Some of what I’m interested in bringing with Bonus Hole Boys is intimate gay sex. A lot of times when I watch gay porn that’s made recently there’s a certain lack of intimacy and it’s very much about angles and holes and sometimes people seem kind of disinterested in each other. I like the way that with Cockyboys, you feel very present in the action and you feel like the people who are fucking each other really care about each other and are really excited and greedy for each other’s bodies. We’re interested in creating something like that.

Have you gotten in touch with Colby?

I have been in contact with him and I know that he’s doing a tour so I’m gonna email him again. He’s never had sex with a trans guy. He said he was thinking about and now that we have more content up we can message him again. We’ve been contacting a lot of gay porn stars, we’ve gotten a lot of applications and a lot of people have been really into it. We’ve been a lot of people’s scenes with a first scenes with a trans men and a lot of people’s first sexual experience with a trans man. It’s really awesome that they’re down to do it but I also understand when they’re like, “I don’t know what this looks like.”

We have all these commenters who are obsessed with “Who’s bisexual? Who’s straight? Who’s gay for pay?” This might be used as evidence, “Oh so and so is not gay they fucked a pussy.” People are too close minded to accept that there’s more things in the spectrum and just accept the idea that it can still be gay sex.

Yeah. They can get over themselves. I had someone give me a really good piece of advice when I was thinking about this website. And trying to deconstruct everything that I might hear about it. They were like “I really suggest that you get over yourself. It’s just porn. It’s not the end of the world.” If someone doesn’t like your porn, and says that person had sex with someone with a pussy and that changes how they feel about them, maybe they should get over themselves.

For sure, yeah. I understand that. Have there been negative reactions to the site?

Yeah. There are always going to be negative reactions to porn because it’s a very emotional topic for people. I think especially when there’s such a small amount of porn that represents trans people if it doesn’t feel right to them, or reflective of their lives, it can feel threatening. Whereas if you see gay men and you’re like “Oh I don’t like that gay porn, that doesn’t do it for me and isn’t what I look like, you can just look at another website. When there’s only a handful of websites doing trans male porn each one of those is going to hold a lot more meaning for you. We haven’t experienced a lot of backlash yet, but I imagine that we will.

is there somebody famous – porn or non-porn that you’re most desperate to fuck?

Ooh. That’s such a big question. I’ve had a crush on Conner Habib for a long time, although he’s been my riding instructor so that could be a little awkward.*

He was your riding instructor?

Yeah when he lived in San Francisco.

And you never made that happen? That’s a perfect porn scenario. You’re in the stable and you’re like that horse has a huge cock and he’s like so do I. You know? You’re a pornographer now you gotta push things!

Yeah. I was being respectful. Haha. He would be a big one.

Tell me about the logistics of setting up the business – do you have investors, capital, how do you pay the porn stars?

This project is actually from Ex Libris’ savings, which is a big leap. We’re putting down money and hoping for the best. Hoping for the market to spring into action. We don’t have investors and so we’re paying for models and doing all the work ourselves.

Do you have a plan for how you want this year to go?

Yeah. So we’re putting out releases, we’re gonna be putting out two releases. One this coming Monday and one the next. We’ll be doing one a month and also focusing on the world of marketing, which apart from escorting is not a world I’m super adept at. We need to figure out how we market ourselves. Someone took some photos of us off the Twitter page and did a short article on Queer Me Now that we didn’t know about until I Googled my own name. Some people were really into us and excited and some people were like, “This isn’t even gay porn.” Trying to figure out how to reach the people that we want to reach, in the face of having a lot of people not being interested in talking about us, is the challenge. I had a client in New York recently who was like “I had no idea that trans men were someone I would be attracted to until I saw your Rentboy ad.” So trying to find people like that who don’t even know something like this could exist is also the goal.

Adam Baran is a filmmaker, blogger, former online editor of Butt Magazine and co-curator of Queer/Art/Film. His short film JACKPOT, about a porn-hunting gay teen, won Best Short Film at the Miami Gay and Lesbian Film Festival, and was recently featured on The Huffington Post, Queerty, and Towleroad, among others. He is a features programmer at Outfest Los Angeles LGBT Film Festival and NewFest in New York. In his spare time, he complains about things to his friends. “Fisting for Compliments”, his weekly musings about the intersection of sex, art, porn, and history, will appear every Monday on TheSword. You can contact him at Adam@TheSword.com and follow him on Twitter at @ABaran999. Check out his previous columns in the Fisting For Compliments Archive.

Bonushole boys is a great website. I wish there were more updated more fuller length movies on there though. And as a cis gendered full blooded gay man, I enjoy sex with transguys as well as cis guys. They are both guys, and as a top, the bonus hole is really good for me. I wonder why some people here are so negative about trans guys. Maybe they are scared of themselves.

I’ve always identified as 100% gay, not bisexual or pansexual. But I’ve had sex with transmen and loved every second of it. I’m not attracted to women, female bodies, but a guy with a “bonus hole” is great. And even if you’re not into this, why do you feel the need to leave disrespectful trans-hating comments? Just move on.

Hey guys, I’m so so sorry about all this. I am the real Jay1. The person who has been using my handle is an impostor. Don’t listen to any of what he says. I love trans guys and have sex with them regularly. They’re super hot.

I fully acknowledge and see him as the man he is but to shame gay men that are not interested in trying to be with transmen crosses a line. If he was asked to do something sexually he had no interest in doing would he be saying he’s closed minded? Guess not and to call anyone closed mind simply because they know what turns them on sexually and what doesn’t is extremely ignorant.

Cyd states: “I am a trans man. I was assigned female at birth and identifying as male, with hormones and surgery have physically transitioned my body to have male characteristics.”

Yes, as a result of continuous and ongoing regimen of male hormones, Cyd has developed secondary male characteristics: body hair and muscular development. And Cyd has had female breast tissue, and perhaps other female fatty tissue, surgically removed. But despite transitioning via hormones and surgery, Cyd still lacks the primary male characteristics: male genitalia. And Cyd’s vagina is a primary female characteristic. And neither hormones nor surgery will transition a vagina into an actual, fully functional penis.

So it’s not at all clear why you feel compelled to “fully acknowledge and see him as the man he is” when he identifies himself as a “trans man,” has not a trace of any primary male characteristics, and has a vagina that cannot be transitioned into an actual penis.

Your willingness to suspend all disbelief and completely ignore the elephant in the room is astonishing.

Do you assume that every adult person, regardless of any gender-specific anatomical inconsistencies, must be either man or woman? And if so, how does one decide which?

Sex is what is in your pants gender is what is in your mind. He identifies him self as a man, one who happens to be a transman, i’ve spent the last five years researching transsexualism and gender nonconformity. So before you go bashing transsexualism how about you do some research. I love how you claim to express no transphobia yet automatically label someone as a man or woman based on sex organs when gender is far more complicated.

I don’t know why you feel compelled to argue with anyone who views the world differently then you, the only thing I can think is you must be very unhappy in your self to feel the need to bash everyone else. I highly hope that you seek help to become more secure in yourself.

Thank you. I wouldn’t have said it better myself. This is not homosexual sex, this is heterosexual sex. How the people involved choose to self-identify doesn’t change the fact they’re having heterosexual sex. And that’s not being disrespectful of their ‘gender’, although that’s really more of a social construct, unlike sex which is objective and determined by biology. But ‘gender’ seems to be extremely important to transpeople, so yeah, by all means we’ll refer to him as a man if that’s what he considers himself. He is a ‘man'(as a matter of gender, not sex) having heterosexual sex with other (real) men.

You may not like the unpleasant and inconvenient truths that I’ve exposed in my comments, but exposing such truths doesn’t make me hateful. It just makes me hated by people like you who can’t handle the truth.

2) who has repeatedly lied about transgender experience

I have lied about anything.
Tell me specifically what lie(s) I allegedly repeated about the “transgender experience.”

3) and disrespected other queer people on this site,

Show me specifically where I’ve allegedly “disrespected” other “queer people” on this site.

4) while at the same time claiming to be victimized.

What! Show me specifically where I’ve allegedly claimed to be “victimized.”

5) Your anti-trans arguments …

I’m not aware that I’ve made any “anti-trans arguments.” I don’t care if anyone is “trans” so why would I be making
“anti-trans arguments?” Show me specifically where I’ve allegedly made “anti-trans arguments.”

Adam – wish you were back at Butt. It’s for the more enlightened LGBT audience I fear. To think – it was seeing your name here via a search that lead me to read on and to comment.

Allibata/Jordi or whatever he is would be a fascinating interviewee. I suspect he leads a life absolutely terrified of being publicly identified as a gay man, which is tragic, as it is says more about the country/society he lives in than him. Unfortunately as a defence mechanism he (and his fellow travellers, the two J’s) seem to have developed this dreadful passive agreessive stance so that any tiny thing that represents a challenge to his neatly ordered world in which he has rationalised his own homosexuality needs to be condemned on the rather curious grounds of being an attempt to “shame” him or “shame” gay men in general. Might it go some way to explain the bizarre obsession with whether a performer is to them a proper “gay” and capable of “support” (whatever that means) or somehow a lesser type, dare I say a bisexual, or someone who is capable of performing overtly homosexual acts but identifying as straight, who is generally deserving of derision? This “shaming” concept is one that must prey heavily on his daily life as a result of the fear of exposure under which he lives. It is an interesting piece of sociology and psycology to see how he and his fellow travellers have transferred this concept so to use it as a means of attack on anything challenging their current very small world view.

These guys need to wake up to the total fluidity of sexual attraction and sexual behaviour that we as a species are capable of enjoying as participants or witnesses. They act rather like pre-Darwinian 19th Century fossil collectors: happy when a specimen can be neatly inserted into a labelled box; but becoming completely flummoxed by any form that presents itself in an intermediate state or form. These are guys that need to read some books on ancient civilisations, modern anthropology, Indian sacred texts, or dare I say it watch some rather more progressive 21st century pornography to get an understanding of the huge range of human sexual behaviour both historically and in the present day. The fact that we are now as a result of medical advances capable of letting trans people express their true gender is something to be celebrated and enjoyed by everyone, not just the LGBT community.

Anyway this has really wrankled with me, and I’s love to knock a few heads together, if only for their own good. I was glad to see you reply yesterday and confirm what I was thinking.

“The fact that we are now as a result of medical advances capable of letting trans people express their true gender is something to be celebrated and enjoyed by everyone, not just the LGBT community.”

Surgical removal of breast and fatty tissue, a continuous regimen of male hormones, and a boyish haircut are not “medical advances.”

And the result is like a science experiment gone horribly wrong.

How anyone could think that is something to be celebrated and enjoyed by everyone is astonishing.

If “trans people” choose to express what they have convinced themselves to be their “true gender” by mutilating their bodies with hormones and surgery–so be it. But don’t expect the rest of us to embrace the “trans” delusion.

Jay1, you are actually a truly viscious bigotted and unpleasant individual now you show your true colours with your most recent comments. I’ve stopped feeling even vaguely sorry for you. Your horrible views are toally out of kilter with vast numbers of LGBT people. If you were in the UK you would be basically in breach of the Discrimination Act to make such views public. Off with you.

A bigotry is is hatred or refusal to accept the members of a particular group.

Nothing I’ve expressed even remotely suggests hatred or a refusal of acceptance of any group.

Your saying you feel “vaguely sorry” for me is just a manifestation of your delusions about me. Save your pity for “trans people.” Clearly, they need it.

There is nothing bigoted or “out of kilter” in stating that
1) “Trans people” believe that the body they were born into does not reflect their “true gender.”
2) Obsessed with this belief, they try to modify their bodies–by taking hormones and undergoing more or less drastic surgeries that leave visible scars–in order to conform to their conception of their “true gender” and to suppress, as much as possible, any reminder of the gender of the body they were born into.

This kind body modification via hormones and surgery amounts to mutilation, i.e., spoiling something; the results do look like a science experiment gone horribly wrong. And saying so is neither bigotry nor “out of kilter.”

One can accept “trans people” without having to pretend that the results of the treatments they submit to are persuasive of anything other than obsession and desperation. No one–not even trans people–is fooled by the results of these treatments. That is why trans people call themselves “trans people.” By their own terminology they admit the ultimate failure of their quest for “true gender.”

None of views I’ve expressed are discriminatory, even under your Discrimination Act.

And in the US, we have the First Amendment right of free speech.

You just don’t like me drawing attention to the fact that the emperor isn’t wearing any clothes. Off with you.

You’re a hateful person who has repeatedly lied about transgender experience and disrespected other queer people on this site, while at the same time claiming to be victimized.
Your anti-trans arguments are exactly the same as those promoted by right-wing bigots. Just so you know who you stand with.

You know sam/sxg get a life why did you believe Adam wanted to interview me if I couldnt speak good English he just wanted to embarassed me, this all started when I said the something about his interview with the unknown jerker on vine (unsure, whatever) . Idiot. The 2 Jays FYI I think they are your fellow americans why dont you ask them. @sam/sxg no matter how long you wrote your comments here they were nonsense. There are many here that werent agreed on your perception about trans man. As I have said I already apologized to Cyd St. Vincent. sam/sxg leave me alone please.

Most typical gay porn stars will probably not be shooting for this site for the reasons Cyd gave, even if they want to, and judging by the reactions in the comments. I would say the “cis”-male talent stock will be roughly the same as it is for MTF tranny porn.

Great interview. Cyd looks really hot in the photos, and “a lot of people conflate sexuality and gender” is the pull quote of the day.
The comments section is a shameful mess though, so full of pussy-phobia and desperation. Man up and loosen up.

I like guys sweaty hairy balls and butts.
A 1 1/2″ clit down by the fishing dock, isn’t gonna cut it.
Cyd may be taking testosterone, but with clothes on, he looks just like any flat chested dyke.

Like I said before, there is plenty of room in Bi porn.
Cyd can have sex with whomever he wants, but trying to poach and pussy shame gay guys isn’t ok.

Btw, if a pussy is just a hole, then why aren’t these “gay” guys on here, having sex with women.

I would love to an interview with guys that date mtf tran, in my experience they are very self loathing.
They want the pre op penis, with the passable public woman.
A lot of cases of domestic violence in the mtf trans community.

Sounds like a bunch a guys that think they can stay hard, long enough to put their dick in a pussy.
Cause that would make them less of a fag.
How many would actually refer to cyd as male when regurgitating their “pussy” conquest.

Your position is to deny trans people their identity. This is how you align with right-wing bigots. Own it.
No one here is trying to “shame gay guys into a vagina” – the notion is laughable.
There’s no basis for your victim complex, except maybe your unresolved inhibitions.

I think this site is amazing, and Cyd is doing great work. People here have varying definitions of what can constitute gay sex, but i think it’s pretty clear what the site purports to doing. If you actually read the taglines on the site, it’s a place featuring trans men with cis men, both of whom are still very validly male despite the differing origins.

Considering the amount of porn with MtF (no bottom surgery, or affectionally called shemales among those who watch that type of porn) with cis men, along with any variation of MtF people and other partners, I think it’s amazing to have a site that caters to this sort of niche.

I, for one, will be checking out a few videos. I think it’s hot, and it’s well worth checking out considering its newness and how hot it looks.

I am a guy who also identifies as 100% gay and I looked at the porn Cyd makes and I think its fucking HOT!!
I would feel privileged to be able to fuck with him.
Listen, some guys are tall, some short, some have long hair or short hair. Similarly some guys have vaginas, its not a big deal, its actually pretty awesome if you think about it!

Great interview. I consider myself gay, always have. Cyd looks hot and I would definitely watch his videos. A lot of guys on here are making very broad generalizations about what it means to be gay and what gay men like and don’t like. Speak for yourselves. A lot of us are fascinated and excited by the gradual erosion of old categories and hierarchies. Slowly but surely all kinds of folks are realizing the differences between sexual orientation, gender and gender identity. I choose to celebrate sexual liberation as an explosion of those categories. Happy Pride to us all.

Absolutely – love the way it pushes all the boundaries – totally and defiantly queer, and right now – and as cool as fuck. Good to see that quite a few gay guys commenting on here have found it just as much of a turn on as I did. Sex with a trans man is so on my “to do” list now!

It is rather sad how it makes the heads of some of the more, shall we say, traditional readers, go into a complete meltdown and frenzy. It is sad to see self-identified “gay” people trying to shout down and exclude diverisity when they should be embracing and celebratin it. They know who they are and they should hang their heads in shame.

“…love the way it pushes the boundaries…”. Right, because nothing says ‘transgressive porn’ like a penis inside a vagina. EYE ROLLING.

There will always be a market for this type of porn, just like there will always be a market for ‘shemale’ porn because bisexual people do exist, and God bless them. But he is as delusional in believing he is having homosexual sex, as those ‘in the down low’ tranny chasers are in believing they’re having heterosexual sex when a tranny fucks them. If he wants to rationalize his fetish by calling himself gay, he’s free to do it, there are plenty of bi people(men and women) who will want to watch; we, gay men, will always prefer dick.

You, Sir, have a very, very big problem. You clearly cannot think or rationlise outside of a tiny little box you have placed yourself in. And to counter anything that doesn’t fit nicely into that box you come up with all sorts of bogus terminology to throw at people and frankly disturbing reactionary views. You make such crass statements as “But she is not a guy. Guys have dicks, not vaginas. And there is no “bottom surgery” that will ever turn a vagina into a dick.” Do you not realise how riduculous and backward you sound. Do you have no understanding of, or even capacity to empathise with, a whole group of people who find themselves (as function of their genes, their exposure to hormones in the womb, or whatever reason) trapped in a body of a gender that just does not feel natural or comfortable to them. Do you realise how harsh, unkind and unfeeling your words sound. Are you so unevolved that you would deny these people the chance to express their gender in the way in which they feel comfortable, and then express their sexuality within that gender.

If you personally have got to the point where you can have a sexuality that is attracted to the same expressed gender that you bear, then why can you not understand that sexuality can be aligned with gender or opposite to gender. And that gender can be the gender as expressed in the physical body at the time of birth or the gender that is a deeper function of the totality of that person’s being i.e the gender that a trans person seeks.

You need to stand back and stop now with this rhetoric about sexual shaming and the other quite frankly disgusting and ignorant statements you have been making on this blog. Stand back and think for a second that you live in the 21st century – that we have a far better understanding of genetics, embryology, developement biology that allows us both to help those who feel the need to change the outward expression of their gender, that we have a society which is generally far more tolerant of their need to make such a change and will take action to prevent such members of our society from being unfairly prejucided or discriminated against.

Are you kidding me?. Shaming of sexual minorities is NOT a myth, or “backward rhetoric”. That’s what right-wingers love to say, that gay-bashing is not a real thing, but simply gay people being melodramatic. He has the right to identify as he pleases, and have sex with whom he pleases, what he does NOT have the right to is call gay men “close minded for not giving vaginas a chance”. That’s a HOMOPHOBIC statement. That is the kind of thing homophobes have been telling gay people for centuries to shame them, terrorize them and deprive them of basic rights. That is what “conversion therapists” tell gay kids to try to get the gay out of them: that if they would just ‘open their minds’, then they might change their sexual preferences. I’m sure he doesn’t necessarily come from a bad place, but the suggestion that gay people can or should change their sexual preferences is offensive and dangerous, and his being a transperson does not give him a pass.

You are getting desperate now. This expression “close minded for not giving vaginas a chance” is an expression that you and you alone have personally coined in the comments section on this blog, spun out from of a couple of words from the interviewer’s question, not Cyd, the interviewee. You are deliberately creating misquotes and trying to pass them off as part of the original interview when in fact they are just expressions that you have cobbled together. You have fallaciousy used this expression several times over, and other expressions which you have claimed to be quotes, but which aren’t, to build this sham argument that Cyd is being homophobic and trying to align him with people who seek to deny gay men their gloriously rich and exciting sexulality. Your whole set of comments on this blog are therefore constructed out of lies and artifice, and then used in a pathetic attempt to shout down those who call you out for the unfortunate bigot that you clearly are.

I can only hope the moderators have enough time and patience to re-read your comments and see what a web of deceit is at their heart.

By the way your constant harping on about “thinking outside the box and giving vaginas a chance” is an all time classic. I guess English as spoken in the UK can’t be your main language otherwse I think you’d have thought twice about committing that to writing. And no, I can’t be bothered to explain the double entendre.

I agree with you Sam, Jay’s crits are ridiculous and transphobic. Cyd is a guy and denying him his gender identity says more about his own fears than anything. None of what he quoted as Cyd’s words are actually Cyd’s words. And for the record, I still consider myself gay, but I greatly enjoyed my hookup with a very sexy trans guy. That’s just me. It’s not everybody. Cyd is not saying it has to be the same for everybody. And I’m pretty sure he would not want to fuck Jay. I allow most of these comments because we don’t have any set policy to censor, altho Jordi Lim/Allibata’s really push it each and every day – i love when a virgin claims to know everything about sex and how sex works. Meanwhile this idea that we are all totally fixed in time at birth is an argument I used to believe and no longer do. I think it’s done great detriment to the cause of gay people to go around saying “we’re born that way and therefore since we can’t change, we deserve your pity/rights”. The argument should be “Even if we could change – so fucking what? Why would that be any business of yours/reason for you to deny me any rights?” So if Cyd were in fact to say that gay people should open their minds and try a trans guy, how is that straight on any planet? It’s so fucking queer it doubles back in on itself and becomes gay again. End of story.

@Adam PLEASE dont mention my real name again. OK? I already apologized to Cyd she’s a good person explaining what really the difference between the “TRANS” people are. Dont hate me bcoz I stand for what I know is right that GAY PORN BELONGS TO REAL GAY MODEL.. I maybe stupid here like what most of you native English speakers claimed and it suddens me more bcoz my community was sayíng that to me. But I couldnt leave this page in my language we dont have this kind of blog in reality I cant name names of any Filipino pornstars bcoz we had none. It is a sin to be a virgin at 33 and make a comment here? Search this: One of the reasons why I hated gay for pay actor ex. Mac of Sean Cody (Men Of Porn blog). THANK YOU TheSword you are really the uncensored gay porn blog.

Dont wanna argue with you and I respected Cyd, but I think when you said IT TURNS YOU ON you were probably Bisexual coz let’s face it it’s a female part. As a gay man myself I didnt feel arouse watching a woman’s sexual part.

There are two people in this blog using the handle “Jay.” I was the original user of the handle “Jay” in this blog, and I have repeatedly asked the 2nd Jay to stop using my handle, but he ignores my requests.

So to clarify, I will identity the posts that I have made under the handle “Jay”:
(a) If I wanted to check out vaginas, or watch men fucking vaginas, I’d be straight.
(b) Change your handle to “Jay2″ or something to distinguish it from “Jay.”
(c) A woman who wants to be a man (but has to settle on being a hairy woman with a vagina and a hormonally enlarged clitoris that doesn’t function as a penis) so she can have sex with men. Now that’s a mind fuck.
(d) Change your handle.
(e) Stop using my handle.
(f) But she is not a guy. Guys have dicks, not vaginas. And there is no “bottom surgery” that will ever turn a vagina into a dick.

I’m not aware that I have “come up with all sorts of bogus terminology.” Cyd herself used the term “top surgery” when she said, “I got top surgery in 2009.” Later, the interviewer asked, “You didn’t decide to do the bottom surgery, why did you make that decision?”

As for your attack on my statement (f), I will say this:

There might be some guys without dicks. But there are no guys with authentic vaginas. And there is no hormone therapy, surgery, magic potion or magic wand that will transform a vagina into a penis.

The medical profession has declared that there is a medical disorder which they call “gender dysphoria.” I can accept that they have declared this to be so. What I can’t accept is that an ethical doctor would actually prescribe a treatment that involves mutilation of the gender dysphoric patient’s body, via hormone therapy and surgery, in order to transform the body from something that looks and functions normally into something that is neither cosmetically, nor functionally, male or female. And I find it harder to accept that the patient, having been fully apprised of the realistic expectations and consequences of such treatment, would actually consent to such treatment. Such treatment is elective, and the results are always so much worse than a bad nose job.

I agree with you although we shouldnt judge them. I personally think this is more of straight porn or it would be a bi if a guy/s having sex with trans men at the same time kissing and later on f@cking a real gay guy afterwards.

Jordi/Allibata – would you like to be my interview subject for next week? I’m really desperate to have the chance to find out everything about you I can. You have so many fascinating opinions, I would really like to chat with you. Please let me know and we can set up a time to talk via Skype.

I’m actually serious. I would love to interview you Allibata. I’m a good interviewer and I know how to interview people I disagree with and still be respectful – see my piece with Bjarne Melgaard. Let me know.

Well I identify as 100% gay and have not been with any women, and haven’t been with a trans man nor have actually I seen any porn involving any but having read this and seen Cyd’s pics I got to say I find myself really turned on by the thought of having sex with him and others like Cyd. Thanks to Cyd for a really honest interview that has really interested me. For Cyd’s body, he seems to have made the right choice not to elect for bottom surgery as he puts it. I shudder at some of the outright hatred, small-mindedness and bigotry expressed by guys reading this blog – he’s got bigger balls than just about anyone having to cope with that on a daily basis. So much for thinking that this would be a more evolved section of the population. Anyway, all power to your elbow, Cyd, and everything else.

To call somebody out for openly mocking gay men’s sexual preferences(by calling them “close minded”) is not being hateful. What is hateful is trying to shame gay people’s for who they are. Sexual shaming is NEVER OK, not when done by Christian bigots, not when done by transsexual porn stars.

Im having a headache now, can you explain to me what Cyd St. Vincent really is- a trans man, trans woman? If a guy had a sexual operation how we called him? So what is the difference between SHEMALE, TRANNY, TRANS MAN, TRANS FEMALE?

I am a trans man. I was assigned female at birth and identifying as male, with hormones and surgery have physically transitioned my body to have male characteristics.

Trans women are women who were assigned male at birth who identify as female, and may use hormones and surgery to shift their body to be more physically female.

Shemale and Tranny are words that are used generally for trans women. A lot of people would say those words are derogatory similar to the word faggot, they are words that are often used to describe trans women in porn.

Thank you Cyd I was really clueless now I understand why my other comment has been deleted coz I said Tranny in unintentional way. SORRY for that. Honestly if I wasnt wrong this is my first time seeing a trans man I thought you’re just wearing a make- up, In my country 2 of the most popular singers are Lesbian. Wish you the best Cyd now I know you’re a member of lgbt community.

MOST (but not all) guys have dicks. There are genitals, and there’s gender, and they’re not aligned 100% of the time, and not just in the case of some trans folk.
Why are you so fixated on binary thinking when It clearly doesn’t apply here? Is it comforting to you to think in rigid absolutes?
Most guys are straight-does that mean gay men don’t exist? Are trans folks too small a minority for you to honor?
Cyd has transplained himself to you in clear and lucid terms, but I suppose at a certain point we have to just leave you behind.

I don’t understand gay men who treat vaginas like they’re repulsed by the mere presence of one. It’s so extra and dramatic. What part of being gay means you have to view female anatomy/bodies like horror landscapes? I must have missed that memo when I came out of the closet because a vagina has never caused me to go running and shrieking from a room, meanwhile some gay men here and elsewhere always act like they’ll turn to stone if they gaze upon one.

It’s like…I don’t like pineapple, but if someone offers it to me, I’m going to just politely decline, not act like the mere presence of it deeply offends my basic sensibilities as a food eater.

Gay men don’t hate vaginas or are repulsed by it per se, but as a matter of sexual attraction, yes, there is an aversion to it , and that’s perfectly normal, and they shouldn’t have to apologize for it. So yes, as a matter of sexual attraction, it’s perfectly normal for gay men to want to have nothing to do with vaginas, just like it’s perfectly normal for straight men to want nothing to do with penises. Yet, somehow people like you who are quick to judge and mock gay men for stating their sexual preference, never make any mention of the converse scenario. No one here has described vaginas as a “landscape of horror”, those are your words, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to pretend to like them simply to make this person feel validated as a man.

But more specifically, what people here are objecting to is this performer’s implying that gay men our ‘close minded for not giving vaginas a chance’. That is an extremely homophobic, offensive statement. It’s called sexual shaming, and it’s what gay men have been subjected to by homophobes for centuries. The ‘you can change your preference and start liking vaginas if you just gave them a chance’ argument summarizes what so called ‘Conversion camps counselors’ tell gay teenagers when they try to torture and terrorize the gay out of them. So, no, shaming gay men for their preferences is NEVER ACCEPTABLE, and your analogy of sexual shaming gay people with disliking a fruit is unfortunate, misleading and disrespectful.

I was a female line cook…very difficult environment. Had to have knee surgery and now I’m forced to CHANGE to create my own path, which is scary and exciting as well.. I wish to give sparkle and Life to others. Enhance their palates with delicious and spectacular dishes. I would really, really LOVE one of my own…..thank you…

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I was a female line cook…very difficult environment. Had to have knee surgery and now I’m forced to CHANGE to create my own path, which is scary and exciting as well.. I wish to give sparkle and Life to others. Enhance their palates with delicious and spectacular dishes. I would really, really LOVE one of my own…..thank you…

I was a female line cook…very difficult environment. Had to have knee surgery and now I’m forced to CHANGE to create my own path, which is scary and exciting as well.. I wish to give sparkle and Life to others. Enhance their palates with delicious and spectacular dishes. I would really, really LOVE one of my own…..thank you…

To all the people writing sweet comments – thanks for the compliments! Hope you enjoy Bonus Hole Boys!

To all the men worried I’m trying to steal their precious man seed with my transgender riteousness – it’s cool girl, I’m not gonna sit on your face and smother your face with my pussy till you agree that trans men are men. What I was saying is that if you are only into dudes with dicks THAT IS TOTALLY OK, no one is questioning your right to be sexually oriented that way. But if someone is into trans men that doesn’t make them less gay, and if you aren’t into trans men try to politely pass on the pineapple instead of throwing the fruit platter to the floor in a temper tantrum. Its just porn, and if you’re not into it you can not watch it, it’s gonna be ok

It DOES make them less Gay. It makes them Bisexual. A GAY man would not want to have sex with someone who has a vagina. That would be someone who falls within the wide spectrum of Bisexuality. Cyd, you identify as a man and that is GREAT – I 100% support you. But you aren’t sexually compatible with GAY men. It’s biological. It’s how we were born. It’s not like saying “No thank you” to pineapple because you don’t like it. It’s more like saying “I can’t eat pineapple because I’ve always been very allergic to it”.

No one has attacked your identity as a transman. You’re making it sound as if not being attracted to you is a transphobic attack. But when you say gay men need “to think outside the box and give vaginas a chance”, you are mocking and disrespecting their sexuality. It’s called SEXUAL SHAMING, and perhaps as someone who didn’t grow up as a gay man, you are not that familiar with it. And no one is worried about ‘you stealing our men’, as long as you stop trying to make it sound as if being gay and not liking vaginas is being closed minded, we have no problem with you.

I’m not repulsed by it, i’m numb to it. Looking a Vagina even on a transman does nothing for me it does not turn me on at all. So as you stated it’s simply a matter of declining and say sorry that doesn’t work for me.

Unfortunately I do have to somewhat agree with jay that the interview seems to shame gay men for not giving transmen and essentially vagina a chance.

Not trying to judge at all. But personally if I wanted to see vagina then I would watch straight porn. This is such a turn off. This isn’t gay porn. We wanna see men with great dicks fucking other hot men. I know we should embrace everyone the way they are and thats great but go to a site that where fans would be into it. maybe kink.com?

IMO, you’d have to fall somewhere in the spectrum of Bisexuality to be interested in this. I’m GAY. I have ZERO interest in trans guys. It’s not just a “bonus hole”. It’s a vagina. Which, to me, is anti-sexual and boner killing. I’m getting so tired of these hippies and their “you fall in love with the SOUL, not the body” crap. Yeah that’s EASY if you’re BISEXUAL and you aren’t repulsed by either gender’s sexual anatomy.

This person wonders why someone would be upset when they think they’re about to be sucking some big hot dick and they unzip them to find a fucking vagina? Seriously? Oh, how “closed minded” that gay man was. Oops, I’m sorry, I mean “gay cis-man”. Don’t even get me started on that bullshit. Yes, if you’re going to make out with a guy, you should probably mention that you’re biologically female. If you don’t, you’re an asshole. It’s deceptive and wrong to do that to people.

Gay men don’t like vaginas. They aren’t bonus holes. They’re deal-breaker holes. Bisexual men like them. Gay men don’t. If you’re going to be so annoyingly PC with your 100+ trans identifiers, at least get the very basic GAY and BI correct. It’s not rocket science, people.

I’m always baffled by how transpeople constantly (and condescendingly) criticize gays and lesbians because apparently we are so fixated with genitals and bodies. Really?, last time I checked it was transsexuals who put themselves through extremely expensive, painful, potentially dangerous surgical and hormonal treatments to change their anatomy, yet we non-trans are the ones obsessed with bodies?.

Having a sexual aversion to vaginas does not make me “close minded”, it makes me a GAY man. Saying that I’m close minded for not giving vaginas a chance is HOMOPHOBIC. That’s the kind of thing Christian bigots tell gay kids at ‘conversion camps’, yet somehow this straight woman gets away with it on, of all places, a gay porn site. I wonder what the reaction would be if a gay celebrity publicly stated that “transmen” are close minded for not giving the whole being a woman thing a chance; he would be branded transphobic and a bigot and be forced to apologize.

This is utter bullsh*t. Having a “sexual aversion to vaginas” does NOT make you a gay man, sorryboutit. Your ATTRACTIONS are what make you gay; your aversions are what make you unpleasant. There is no zero sum game of genital attraction; that’s a myth you’ve accepted for some reason. I know plenty of gay men (myself included) who have responses other than “aversion” to pussy- and for that matter, I know plenty of straight men who do not have a sexual aversion to other dicks.
You like dick only! Congrats! Why do you think it matters? Now check yourself.

” I know plenty of gay men (myself included) who have responses other than “aversion” to pussy-” Then you and these other men are about a 4 or 5 on kinnsey scale which is basically bisexual with a preference for men not gay.

And by the way, his trying to portray gay men as close minded for not being interested in vaginas is sexual shaming. No straight man would ever be called close minded for having no sexual interest in non-operative transsexuals, yet somehow if gay men make it clear they have no interest in vaginas, we are “not thinking outside the box”.

A woman who wants to be a man (but has to settle on being a hairy woman with a vagina and a hormonally enlarged clitoris that doesn’t function as a penis) so she can have sex with men. Now that’s a mind fuck.

How erudite of you to elucidate for us your feelings about vaginal intercourse versus your preferred method of male on male anal plundering. I am a fan of the plundering myself and have had cause to be jack hammered on quite a few occasions . I also have loved and devoured porn, especially gay porn, for the better part of 30 odd years. But what’s really neat, JAY, is that as an adult I have always embraced and been interested in the veritable eheem rainbow of sexual , gender and erotic experience and identity. While I have watched and wasted millions of hours on gay porn in my adult life, along with ruining entire towel sets in the process, I am also balanced and GROWN UP enough to be able to actually find interest in something without having to have it stimulate my chode. In other words…open what little mind you have in that stale old raisinette rolling around in your skull. Learn something that doesn’t involve the constant stimulation of what must be worn out tattered and beaten little skin whistle betwixt your sweaty ( see rashly raised pustules) thighs and learn about another persons experience. transversely ( see what I did there?) Reading obviously isn’t your strong suit. I think many of us would agree we wish you had never ever seen a vagina…starting with the first one you were unceremoniously ejected from in pile of blood shit and afterbirth. Personally I would have preferred that your mother had you evacuated surgically ( vacuum suction would do the trick ne cest pas?) in the first trimester. You are quite familiar with vacuum suction no? It’s that deafening SUCKING sound you hear inside head when you try to form a thought I would tell you to go fuck yourself but enough with redundancy. Oh fuck fucking go fuck yourself you idiot!

To be erudite is having and or showing great knowledge re to be scholarly. You are confusing it with the text book explanation of ERUDITION. However I wouldn’t expect you to understand context, common usage, nuance or SARCASM. In other words dumb ass I was saying how smart of you to explain to us how much of an ass wipe you are. When one describes one as erudite it is to say they have great knowledge. When one does elucidate they explain and clarify. However, you see, while not the wrong usage in the way you try to point out I was stretching the usage a we bit mostly because I was being SARCASTIC, as would be obvious to anyone and you are an idiot as would ALSO be obvious to a single cel organism. Ok are we clear? To be erudite is to have great knowledge re: smart book smart scholarly. Sarcasm: expl: when your mom tells you ” son I’m so lucky to have had you” when she really means “I regret ever letting your daddy shoot his load in me because now I’m saddled with you and I loathe you”, Or when I call you “one with great knowledge” when I am actually mocking your idiocy – To elucidate: to explain in great depth. I am Sure you still don’t get it even though it was written in that over the top way as FOGHORN, A NEON SIGN TELLING YOU I WAS BEING SARCASTIC. Please please do resume to googling words, maybe you can expand your va moooo cabularily. While doing so please wear your helmet!!! We don’t want you to bruise that melon with the raisinette inside it is soft and delicate.

No. The definition I provided for “erudite”–displaying knowledge acquired from study–is correct and appropriate to way you used it in “How erudite of you to elucidate your feelings…”.

So there was hardly any need for you to Google “erudite” and repeat the first entry Google returned. You did so merely to perpetuate the pretense that you knew the meaning of the word when you used it.

And I’m not confusing “erudite…with the text book [sic] explanation of ERUDITION.” Just as the adjective “erudite” means displaying knowledge acquired from study, the noun “erudition” refers to knowledge acquired from study.

My taking you to task over your usage of “erudite” was my own sarcasm.

And my original statement was simply a sarcastic declaration of my position on watching vaginas, not an elucidation of feelings or demonstration of erudition.

My calling you a pretentious windbag is another example of a declaration–one that requires no elucidation.

Oh and lastly how smart of you to explain your feelings to us. It was smart because It was a very direct, RE SMART!!!!, way to let us know how LAME your FEELINGS are. I love how you just went on and on and elucidated ( explained and clarified your feelings)…You did nit do that it was shirt and stupid ( see sarcasm) That is so smart if you because you can tell the difference between a vagina and a cock and you FEEL disgusted by a va jay jay but you want to see only wiener and man hole only BIOLOGICAL men. What IS ACTUALLY ASTOUNDINGLY STUPID is when you didn’t know you were being pilloried with sarcasm parody and mockery. By using lots of SEEMINGLY unrelated big words, I was mocking what an idiot and ass you are. Do you get that parodying high minded discourse in order to actually shame a subject? Ps NOBODY CARES if all you wanna see is dick, you STUPID cum dumpster!

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