Ah, Cumby. We’ve managed to have two Fassbender posts this week, and yet we haven’t checked in with Benedict Cumberbatch yet. Just so you know – I got this as a request from a Cumberbitch. So there! People actually request news on Cumby. It helps that there’s some actual news and new interviews with our beloved Cumby. As we discussed a few weeks ago, Cumby got into trouble recently for complaining about his “posh” label, and for disrespecting Downton Abbey once again. In a recent magazine interview, Cumby had said, “We’re living in a culture now that’s revering, or having a nostalgia trip with, the beginning of the 1900s. Although Downton traded a lot on the sentiment in the last series… but we won’t talk about that series because it was, in my opinion, f**** atrocious.” Well, in an interview conducted last week, Cumby took some of it back. Sort of. Incidentally, he looks really, really good here. I love him in plaid.

Cumby basically says that he “used language that he shouldn’t have used” and that his answer in context was about the comparisons between Downton’s use of war and the use of war in his new miniseries, Parade’s End. He says “I would never say about the whole series, I’ve got friends and family in it.” He says Downton is “good” and that it “deserves all the success that it’s getting.” So, once again, this is a repeat of a previous controversy – Cumby bashes Downton, then takes it back, then Cumby bashes Downton again, then has to take it back. Maybe we can make it a three-fer.

Meanwhile, Cumby let out his inner bitch (it doesn’t take much, honestly) and spoke about the new CBS show, Elementary, which is basically the Yankee knockoff of Cumby’s Sherlock. Elementary stars Jonny Lee Miller as Sherlock, and Lucy Liu stars as Watson. It looks like a turd of a show, and that’s basically what Cumby says too. Only in a much bitchier way. It’s especially harsh because The Batch and JLM worked together on the London stage recently, and they’re friendly in real life:

There is no mystery here. Benedict Cumberbatch is not 100 percent on board with CBS’ take on the legendary Sherlock Holmes.

Cumberbatch, who currently stars in the BBC hit Sherlock, talked to Shortlist.com about being the villain in the new Star Trek sequel, his rise to fame, and his initial impression about Jonny Lee Miller’s turn as Sherlock on Elementary, a modernized tale about the detective.

“I got hold of the pilot script just to check it out. I don’t know, we’ll see,” Cumberbatch says in the interview. “I think there’s room for us both to coexist. I don’t feel threatened by it and I wish him the best, which is as diplomatic as I can be.”

He continues: “It’s very odd. I did say [to Miller], ‘Well, I’d prefer you didn’t do it but you’ve got a kid to feed, a nice house in LA and a wife to keep in good clothes.’ I think Jonny was like, ‘Mate, I’ve got the f–king mountain to climb here, you’ve got nothing to fear.’ I wish him the best of luck, but I’m a bit cynical about why they’ve chosen to do it and why they cast him.”

During the TCA Press Tour last month Miller told reporters that he had a “private discussion” with Cumberbatch after he took the role, and had nothing but respectful things to say about his work.

“I love the work that Benedict has done with Sherlock. I would call him up like a groupie after every episode had come out. I’ve been able to reassure him about how different this script was.”

CBS president Nina Tassler also praised the BBC series, calling it “wonderful,” and adding: “I think there’s plenty of room for another Holmes in our world.”

Rough. But I actually don’t blame Cumby too much for being a bitch about this one. Apparently, American producers went to the men who created this modernized Sherlock Holmes, Mark Gatiss and Steven Moffat, about a possible “American version” of their Sherlock, because American producers think Americans are too dumb to watch the UK version of the show. Moffat and Gatiss turned down the Americans, and the Americans just went ahead and did it anyway. And now Jonny Lee Miller is probably making more money as Sherlock in two episodes than Cumby has made for two seasons. So… I say, go ahead and be a bitch, Cumby.

UPDATE: Ah, Cumby released a statement to THR:

“I am both bemused and upset at this misquote. I never said that Johnny took the job for the paycheck nor did I ask him not to do it. What I said is I would have preferred not to be in the situation where we will again be compared because we are friends. I know for a fact his motivations were to do with the quality of the script and the challenges of this exceptional role.

“It is baffling because I have only been supportive of an incredibly talented actor who I am proud to call a friend taking a job I know he is going to enjoy immensely and be wonderful in.

“Over 70 actors have played this exceptional character before us. To say that there can be only one Holmes would be ludicrous. We’re both thrilled to get the opportunity to play him in a modern context. The world of Sherlock Holmes and the world that we live in now is big enough to take more than one interpretation. As a genuine Sherlock Holmes fan I am greatly looking forward to his series.”

Whatever, dude. It’s kind of ridiculous that every single interview with Cumby contains some kind of “misquote” right? At some point, we just have to admit that he’s actually saying this stuff and then he feels bad afterwards.

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I know he has much love on this site, but his comments sounded nasty and yes bitchy. It is not like he has a monopoly on playing the role. Many actors before him have played the part and there will be others after. He sounded a bit jealous that maybe JLM is making more money.

johnny lee is such a class act, I would have bitch slapped him if he talked down to me that way. lol That’s the thing about JLM though, he never shit talks, whether it’s about his personal or professional life. He’ll be the first one to say it’s hard getting a job period as an actor and that he appreciates it when one comes his way.

I don’t mind the bitchiness so much. At least it’s honest. He seems like a nice person with foot-in-mouth syndrome, which is so much more fun than all those polished “we all love eachother and everything my colleague does is brilliant”-interviews.

I think it’s ironic too. The bitchiness toward the perceived bitchiness is way too strong a reaction to even be interesting. Then I remind myself this site is called Celebitchy and take my seat. Heh heh.

Can I just put it out there and say that Cumby is a massive bitch for saying that journalists are “misquoting” him? First of all, they clearly didn’t; He has a pattern. Not to mention, every journalist in the world uses recorders and has to keep extensive notes for factchecking. Saying you’ve been “misquoted” is convenient, but it’s a total ass thing to do. It’s a very serious accusation in journalism, and unlike Cumby, those journalists don’t really have the profile to come out and defend themselves to the world.

Thank God the Grand High Moff and Gatiss turned it down (inner geek coming out here). Although I’m not entirely surprised. They’re huge fans of the original books and complete purists when it comes to accuracy. Speaking of Moffat, the new Dr Who series starts tomorrow over here
Hoping Elementary bombs. They made Watson a woman for Chrissakes, a woman! Changing the gender of a character is just going completely overboard and feeding the fanboys/girls fantasy of a Holmes/Watson relationship without the Mary Whitehouse types writing in and complaining about a gay relationship on TV.
There. Friday rant done with

Yeah- I was the same way when they changed Starbuck to a woman, but grew to love her in the role. Elementary can’t be as good as Sherlock, but I’ll give it a chance- there is so little worth watching most times on network TV (& this at least has JLM)…kinda the same way I started & sorta keep up w/ The Mentalist bc of Simon Baker. Another Whovian- Bowties are cool!

The thing about the Starbuck change was that they embraced a rather twisted sexual relationship and doomed love story between her and Apollo. I thought that was ballsy! This Watson change feels gimmicky. Same character, same story, but look, a woman!

Also it appears she isn’t an army doctor. That’s interesting. Even in the one with the freaking MICE Watson was an army doctor!

What I wish they’d done, if they wanted to have a female Watson, is to keep the Victorian setting and make Watson the brilliant one and Holmes the ever so slightly behind partner who gets all the credit for being the genius because he’s a man. It would then make more sense and would actually be a fresh take on it, instead of being a vaguely more literary version of Goren and Eames.

I mean, moving the action into a different century is okay, transforming characters and plot into something only tangentially related to original books is totally okay, but making one of the main characters into a WOMAN instead of a straight white man?!

Omg. Seriously. Steven Moffat is one of my all time favorite writers. His dr who episodes ( blink, empty child, and girl in the fireplace) totally spoiled me for non-Moffat episodes. I can watch them over and over.

Meh I really like the BBC version of this show and I never had any intentions of watching the CBS version (eventhough I think JLM is scrumptious). But dude it’s Sherlock Holmes there have been hundreds of versions of this story and in the years to come there will be hundreds more of varying quality. His may be a very very very good version but he sounds like a big whining baby.

but is it really honesty when you have to go back and retract and apologise for everything you’ve said so far? everything ‘honest’ he’s said has been ‘misquoted’ or ‘taken out of context’. just stick by your bitch if you’re so honest.

He’s a sarcastic person. Sarcasm doesn’t read well in print because writers and readers can misinterpreted it. Also he is a talker. We are so use to sound bite written by handlers. Dull. Ps he looks tasty on the one show. Also thebest dressed. What is that host wearing. Cumbercrush hasn’t stopped. (I’d be pissed at Johnny too.)

ITA, though truthfully I’d rather watch the BBC version. It was like SyFy’s reboot of Being Human – WHICH WAS STILL ON TV on BBC America at the time. What was the point? Why not just give us the first version?

On another note, despite his foot-in-mouth tendencies, I still find Cumby really hot. Why is that?!

Izzy- ITA back atcha! I really like the BBC version of SH. Right now I have no intention of watching the US version; not much in to network TV. Do yourself a favor, if you have not already done so, read Sir ACD original source material. Really great fun and still readable and enjoyable a century later!

Funny, I really like the US version of Being Human. Have never watched the British version. Guess I’ll have to get busy on Netflix.

I don’t get his hotness either. He looks like all the piece don’t fit, at least in his face. Maybe it’s the voice. Oh, that voice.

I can’t really remember any comments on here mentioning it but the rest of the internet was being disgusting about it (as they are when any non-white person gets a role. See: Hunger games (Amandla), Thor(Idris Elba) etc.

I love Sherlock and Benadryl Cumbersalad is a realy good actor (even though his face is offensive) but this fandom gives me so much secondhand embarrassment. They put the rat in ratchet sometimes. Ugh.

I remember the disgusting reactions from Hunger Games fans on Facebook, Twitter and Tumblr. In fact, I don’t think I’ll ever be able to forget that.

Especially nasty (among many) was the one that said “after knowing Rue was going to be played by a black girl, her death didn’t seem all that sad”.

But here on Celebitchy bigots are usually shunned by regular posters — which is one of the main reasons why I like this site (that’s why I found it weird when you mentioned Lucy Liu being hated on by Cumberbatch fans).

Those Hunger Games tweets hurt man. I hate that Amandla had to see that nonsense and that noone in the fandom came to her defence. They all came to defend JLaw when she was called fat but kept silent when people were racist. Dosn’t surprise me though, nobody ever speaks out against racism and if you do people tell you get over it or that you’re too ~PC~.

I swear those tweets took me back to my childhood and all the nasty things people would say about black girls. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

You’re right though, people on this website don’t take shit and it’s the only reason I come here. (except for that Beyonce thread where people called her ‘ghetto’ and stuff. I get Beyonce hate but I’m not here for all the racism that comes with it.)

I’m just happy to see an Asian women get some work in Hollywood (even if she is the go to Asian) so all the racism pisses me off. Hating on it is fine but when people mention race, I get mad.

Me and Eve were agreeing with each other about the fandom being crazy and whatnot. Did you even read the back and forth ??? You need to fall back. The fandom always mention Lucy being Asian so I mention Benny bring white !!
You mad?
Stay mad. I don’t really care.

‘race card’ ??? Well look at what we have here.

The condescending phrase ‘race card’ comes out. Not surprised though. Imagine if everytime you spoke about sexism someone dismissed it as that ‘female card’ stuff. So disrespectful yet unsurprising.

Elba never played Thor — he played the gate keeper Heimdall. But there were people (on some websites) complaining about having a black guy playing an “Asgardian”, that it didn’t make any sense because “Asgardians” were supposed to be “Nordic types” (as in he shouldn’t even be there, get it?).

So…it was even worse than people being angry at the possibility of having him playing the hero himself.

Whoa, Crystal….time to jump off. Yes, you are perpetually angry about SOMETHING. And YES, the “race card” usually comes up in your posts.

Why do you feel compelled to use such seemingly aggressive language. “Come for me” and such. It’s not the first time you’ve postured in a hostile stance, and it’s becoming a really tired old bit. SERIOUSLY. Try to laugh a little and not be so freaking combative with everyone. It’s a gossip blog! Should be FUN…..right?!

*thinks Eve would give me a slap and a shove and trip me in race to discover the Cumby-jewels* :0

Think? Be damn sure about that.

EDIT: I think Crystal’s “Come at me” remark was a dig at Cumberbatch crazy tumblr fans — some truly overreact (not as much as Hiddleston’s fans though). Maybe she was expecting a knee-jerk reaction from his fans à la tumblr.

The thing is, most Cumberbitches here (on Celebitchy) aren’t like that — and I don’t think his tumblr fans come over here to comment (they’re too busy making .gifs and worshipping him on their own fan pages).

Just scroll past my posts if I’m perpetually mad then. I’m not paying you to read my comments and reply.

‘Come at me’ is a joke on ONTD and Dlisted. It just means I’m waiting for the butthurt fans to rip me to shreds for dissing their man.
What’s aggressive about that ? Not my fault that y’all don’t get it.

Stop replying to me and I’ll stop replying to you. Simples. I really give zero f*cks about the opinion of someone who frequently uses the phrase ‘race card’ as if it isn’t offensive and dismissive. I can’t wait till there’s a comment on sexism here and I get to dismiss it as ‘female card’. Would love to see how that goes down.

I can’ even hate on twihards when this fandm exists tbh andthis is coming from a fan. I can’t read any Benedict Cumbersnatch on any other website than CB because his fans here aren’t cray-cray.

The same fandon that defended that douche Freeman;

Multiculturalism hasn’t and doesn’t help, because rightly or wrongly it polarises people so much,” he continues.
“Racism is one thing ? and I don’t agree with that in any form ? but noticing that there are differences is normal and fine and to be encouraged.
“We’ve reached a state now where it’s, ‘You shouldn’t notice. Why are you noticing he’s got a bomb and has a beard and is Muslim and wants to kill your family?”
“There is no country in the world like this. If all of a sudden all the traffic wardens in Ghana were Welsh, they’d really notice and might not love it? We give ourselves a hard time in this country in a sort of mea culpa way. But if we were that racist, people wouldn’t come. Very simple.”

Isn’t this the same reason that everyone hated Kristen Stewart (I mean pre-scandal)? She had a bad attitude and seemed ungrateful. I think this guy is pretty similar in that regard-but he gets a free pass???

I know, Eve
I was replying to Sara.
My comments were in regard to the various posts about Cumberbatch who appears to be perpetually complaining and in regards to the post above, where he comes off like a jerk.

I think he needs to just quiet down a bit or get some media training. Whatever he’s doing isn’t working in his favor.

Girl, you know men in Hollywood don’t get any backlash. There’s a reason why Roman Polanski and Sean Penn still have fans but Winona Rider in a of her flawlessnes can’t get a job.

Men (particularly white men whether people want to admit it or not): Beat women, racist/homophobic/misogynistic comments, no talent = Women tripping over themselves to defend them and stan for them.

Women: middle finger on the red carpet, daring to change into sneakers oon the red carpet, cursing in interviews, clubbing, drinking, sleeping with men, blinking, breathing, being human = they’re hated and called every name in the book (whore, ungrateful b*tch, c*nt) and sometimes lose fans.

Funny how that works out huh ??
Can’t stan K-Stew and Rinkydink Curdlesnoot has more talent in his pinkie than she has in her body but the hate she got (pre scandal) was so ridiclous (as is the hate for most women, Blake Lively anyone) considering how fast everyone (not on CB) is falling over themselves to defend this guy.

He needs to slither back to his heat lamp.

EDIT: Eve is right these coments weren’t from Cumberbatch (he’s not that dumb yet), I just posted it to demonstrate that some people get away with murder in this fandom.

@ Amelia- Read the link and THANK YOU! I feel like I need to hire you as my “UK consultant”

Been to London twice and Ireland once but I’m obviously ignorant as hell about a lot of the things that are going on out there. Traveling there on a vacation isn’t exactly the same as living there and understanding the social complexities. *sigh*

So now that I’ve thanked you, I have to take it back because that article was incredibly depressing! I see so many similar scenarios here in Boston. The other day a guy in my BF’s old neighborhood stabbed & killed a kid as they were getting off a bus in broad daylight because the kid accidentally stepped on his shoes. They STILL haven’t apprehended the stabber. Nevermind how incredibly brazen the crime was and how incredibly dangerous the stabber is. It wasn’t a hate crime but it was black-on-black violence and it (not surprisingly) remains an unsolved crime. *sigh* The young man who was stabbed was on his way to work-he was a nurse

I think it’s obvious to everyone who’s gone through this thread that we have a REALLY angry, attention seeking person here. This is the same person who hijacked the entire ‘Christina Hendrickson/ 24K handbag’ post last week. Loves to come in with a loaded statement, can turn a care-bear party into a platform for racism, is in it for the thrill of arguing for its’ own sake and MUST have the final word. Absolutely MUST!!

I think we’ve ALL spent entirely too much time on this inflammatory hybrid troll…which is exactly what it needs to exist. I think from now on we maybe we should just cut off its food supply. Eh? *shrugs*

Well Kitten, I’m currently waiting to hear back about a post grad job programme I applied for, so I’m not aversed to earning a few extra bob ^^
Poor bloke, that sounds dreadful Makes you wonder what’s made these people so angry they feel the need to stab someone who stepped on their shoes. We have similar attacks in London but I’m fairly lucky to live in a nice part of town and as of late, there’s been a bit of a crackdown on gang violence.
You lucky thing, living in Boston One of my friends is doing a post grad degree at MIT, it looks like an amazing city!

Not going to lie, I love it! I’m so sick of canned celebrity answers and, yes, I think he has a right to be cynical. But be gracious dear Benny , you have a starring role in one of next summer’s biggest blockbusters and you are being handpicked to star with Pitt, Fassbender, and Streep among others. You’re friend is about to spend all his time doing a network TV drama…on CBS. The most basic of the basic networks. Sarcasm won’t work here, you’ve already come out on top.

I’m not propping him up at all, he shouldn’t have said it. It’s not a lie to say he is having the better career right now and he should be gracious about that. He will have a downturn as well. They all do.

I agree with you Sara. Why the need to knock Johnny Lee Miller down? I think JLM is an extremely talented actor and frankly the only reason why I will watch the American show, not that I don’t love Lucy Liu as well. There is nothing wrong about approaching an idea from a different point of view or a different creative angle. Why can’t there be love for both shows? I think Cumby’s comment was a little side-eye for my taste but come one, there was no need to knock your “friend’s” chance for an opportunity. They are both talented actors and should be appreciated. As a side note: JLM’s role on Dexter as the villian was phenomenal! He was so creepy and spectacular even though the season was incredibly disturbing.

He really is a strange-looking guy. I’ve tried but I just DON’T GET THE ATTRACTION to this dude.

Miller sounded so much classier than Cumby BTW-definitely took the high road and came out on top.
I wouldn’t talk that way about a friend-in fact I would avoid publicly discussing a friend’s professional decisions, period.

Never paid any attention to the man but if his comments are often like this then I dont get the love.

He seems like a 12 yr old mean girl and a pretentious 18 yr old know-it-all rolled into one.

First he goes in with the passive aggressive “No, go ahead and do the show. You NEED the work, your wife likes shiny things I’m sure” and backtracks with the “Oh you poor thing! You misunderstand me! Shall I speak a little slower for you? Because I surely didn’t insult anyone, the very thought bemuses me so!” Eeesh…and people come down on women for being even a teensy bit bitchy.

Not a fan and he seems rather full of himself and to me he resembles a horse.

But double standards in tabloids and gossip sites are the norm. Smart mouth, mean men are “honest”, smart mouthed, mean women are “bitches”, skinny women are anorexic, skinny men are lean and sexy. So his “he is just speaking his mind, so let’s forgive him” treatment is not a surprise.

I love you, Eve, you know that but in the gossip world we come down HARD on celebs that make stupid comments. To be fair, just because Cumby is cute to some, he still shouldn’t escape the eye of scrutiny.

It’s only fair as we would give an equal amount of shit to any other celeb. Not saying I hate the guy or anything but he’s starting to sound like a brat….

If you marry him will you tell him to just be quiet for a while? Maybe you can help him and make him a better man….?

LOL. Don’t regret requesting the story bb. I enjoy getting my hate on. Cumbersnatch is like my K-Stew. (I don’t mean to piss off any fans though. The ones here on CB are great, it’s the rest of the internet that disgusts me.) Had I writen my comments anywhere else, I would have been eaten alive.

Sorry for the rants
I’m just a fan that gets frustrated with the cast and the fandom.

It’s all right. I really don’t mind that (even I thought he was being harsh when I read the story on Pajiba). And I agree that some fandoms can be extremely annoying (I find Tom Hiddleston’s Tumblr fans particularly disturbing).

Plus, I hate on others here a lot too — and if I want to have the privilege to voice my opinion about certain celebrities, I must be ok with others commenting on my favourites as well.

I need to go back and read the comments, but I can’t help loving my Cumby. (I love JLM, too, and thought he was great in the BBC version of Emma where he played Knightly–my first through was that he was way too young to play that role, but over the course of the series, he acted the hell outta that part and completely sold me).

I mean, yes, Cumby is bitchy to a degree. But I don’t find it too implausible that at least some of his supposed bitchiness is concocted by the media. Doesn’t that frequently happen with women actors–the attempt to create a bitch-fight between two women? It’s less common with male actors, but I can completely see the media trying to stir up a competition between two hot British actors who may end up vying for the same roles, like JLM and Cumby.

Anyhow, Cumby is articulate, beautiful in a compelling but unusual way, and a helluva good actor. I am definitely still a Cumberbabe. Or Cumberbitch. Whichever:)

It’s like he has to personalities inside of him – one shows when he’s giving interviews on camera and the other when he speaks to journalist from magazines and there are no cameras. He never sounds bitchy or rude when I watch his interviews (and I’ve watched many of them on YT but maybe I just didn’t catch the right ones), the opposite even – he always seems to be polite, diplomatic and genuinely nice and funny, but when I read his words on paper, he almost always comes off like a completely different person and I start to like him less and less after reading every single one of them. Not only those two “controversial” interviews. I don’t know, maybe it’s not entirely his lack of tact and general bitchiness but rather his sarcastic sense of humor, the way he talks so fast he doesn’t have time to think about the answer and sometimes an odd choice of words that don’t work well in writing?

I have a question regarding interviewing: do journalists still write down what is being said or do they record it and then transcribe? Because Benny Boy is basically calling the interviewer a liar – I wouldn’t call the above comments merely a misquote.

Whoa. Confession I am not knowledgable on this dude as I don’t watch a ton of TV.

Why the hell are you so crazed? I feel like I need to pass you a rag so you can wipe the drool. Did this guy murder your mom?

Come at you? Who says that?

Having many English friends, having lived there and worked with Brits, they are possessed of a wonderfully dry humor. As far as getting misquoted? We are always shocked to read my husband’s interviews, there is usually at LEAST one misquote.

Come at me. I got it from tumblr. Sorry if it offends but I was ready for the crazed fans and I wasnt disappointed. *shrugs*

You have British friends?? Cool, where do they live ??

I am black-British and tbh a lot of them use that whole ‘dry humour , ‘sarcastic’ shtick to get away with saying offensive things.

I believe that celebrities get misquoted. Sure. But it seems that the guys in this show use it as an excuse all the time.(and fans fall for it of course)
Racist /homophobic comments?? Misquote
Complaining about your privileged, posh life ?? Misquote

Obviously the media have planned a conspiracy against all those involved in Sherlock. That must be it.

Funny how I’m called crazed and angry here but no one did anything about all the lunatics that show up on K-Stew posts and all but threaten to kill her. Jennifer Anniston gets hate for breathing. Insult a man in Hollywood who’s clearly a douche and I’m the crazy one. Meh *shrugs*

You’re NOT angry or crazed, Crystal?! Okaaaay, whatever you say Princess Perma-rage. You have the unerring ability to take a perfectly light-hearted post and go all Voldemort on it, sucking the joy and fun out of any random topic.

Many, many other posters have obviously noted your hostile tone…can you not at least take a Valium before posting on here? The rest of us would really appreciate getting back to the harmless and *usually* enjoyable activity of commenting on a freaking GOSSIP BLOG! You know…a gossip site? It’s not a platform for racial commentary or people with anger management issues.

@ Crystal-the problem is (and I think we both agree) with the Freeman link you posted-he (paraphrasing) says that it’s perfectly cool to point out differences in people. Strongly disagree with him. I personally think that in order to get beyond race and gender inequalities, we need to treat all as equals. By that I mean we need to not incessantly bring up race or gender differences. And that goes for both the racism issue and the misogyny issue.

Now I know we both agree on the double standard here-but I don’t see the point in being angry about it, especially in this forum where most people are pretty nice. It’s not that you shouldn’t point out the double-standard but it’s the anger behind it that is confusing to all of us.

It seems like you just hate super-stans like Cumberbatch’s Tumblr crew. I’m sure Gen, Tiff, Eve and others would agree with you. I know that I HATE stans who blindly defend their celeb-of-choice. It’s annnoying as hell.

It’s just the way you communicate that sometimes gets people riled up and the people here are much more chill than other forums. I feel like we should all smoke a collective doobie and hug it out.
Although, that’s sort of my standard solution to life’s problems

EDIT: @ Eve-I don’t think you were blindly defending Cumby either BTW (I was referring to stans, not you)-you called him out for being bitchy, but said you still want to hit it-perfectly acceptable

I don’t smoke…but can I replace that doobie with an acorn? Oh my god, I’m so gross. But hey! Wouldn’t we all benefit from that? (I doubt he’d keep being a bitch after that).

@ Genevieve:

I think Crystal (preemptively) tried to protect herself from the possible crazy-type tumblr fans that could take her comments on Cumberbatch personally. I understand where she was coming from — though I think she said that to the wrong audience (my point: Celebitchy posters are somewhat reasonable most of the time).

I think she’s entitled to dislike Cumberbatch (really, even if she states that passionately).

@ Eve…hey, I never said it was a requirement to *love* or even like Cumby…admittedly, we Cumberbitches are a niche crowd My problem is with the aggression and full-on attack mode that this person has exhibited in many prior threads. Think she needs to settle down and play nice to a greater degree.

@ OKitt…I LOVE the fact that you are the universal peacemaker! “Chill”, indeed I wish certain people would just smoke it out and relax, you know? Thankfully, most people on here do not enter the site fully pimped out in combat gear with a stout artillery of anger to support their posts. A bit of lightness and self-deprecation goes a really long way with me!

Oh, and in my lusting after Cumby, I *did* forget to mention that ITA with the dismay at some of the comments he makes. Now THERE is a guy who needs a better PR team or the ability to use some filters regarding what comes out of his oddly attractive mouth.

That right there is how I don’t get how the eff he could have been misquoted. It’s such a petty, bellow-belt comment to make and it’s charged with so many implied misogynistic assumptions it makes me physically sick. The dude is a steaming turd and though I enjoy the Sherlock series, I am in no way predisposed to kiss this guy’s pasty posh rear end. Benny, sit the f*ck DOWN.

I don’t know about a current girlfriend — I’m certain that tumblr page was started AFTER he dumped Susannah Fielding. It’s weird, honeslty.

About Cumberbatch being like Hiddleston…I agree with that regarding interviews (but then we would miss a lot of Cumby The Bitch gossip). But I disagree with that when it comes to the relationship they have with their respective fandoms.

Cumberbatch seems to treat his fans rather well, but he doesn’t indulge them the way Hiddleston dangerously does.

I think both could learn a little from each other: Cumberbatch could follow Hiddleston’s lead and be more polite — while Hiddles, in return, could learn how to keep a safe distance from his batshit crazy fans.

About their looks…yes, Tom Hiddleston is more conventionally handsome. But somehow I find that boring. So I’ll take Cumberbatch’s reptilian, alien look over Hiddleton’s good boy’s facial features every time (don’t judge).

@ Eve
Hiddleston it’s cool that he genuinely appreciates his fandom, but indeed I agree with you he must keep a safe distance.. I mean his fandom is kinda contradictory… the dude got his Facebook account hacked and yes there were some fans who reacted and in result the tumblr account of the one who hacked his Facebook got deleted or whatever suspended etc… then to thank them he says he has the best fans in the world.. duuuude! It’s very noble but you’ve just tickled the pandora box here…now his fans go nuts begging for attention via twitter, tweet him 200000times a day, and go nuts whenever even an old pic of his ex gf appears somewhere or then try the whole “let’s respect his privacy”…yet they go and wait for him for hours in front of a studio (dude has been working 16hrs straight..umm ok..), stalk him into his hotel… and if he’s off twitter for more than 24hrs they go berserk as if he was their bf or hubby “where were you? where have you been..” bahahahaha! But I really like his enthusiasm though I wouldn’t want him to change that anytime…He’s like he’s got Parker in Massapequa syndrome, one hell of a rare condition nowadays. As for Benny well if that’s nature well so be it, as long as he’s still the very good actor he is, I can live with it…
As for the looks, well hmmm both are quirky looking, but their intelligence and eloquence does the trick eh…

now his fans go nuts begging for attention via twitter, tweet him 200000times a day, and go nuts whenever even an old pic of his ex gf appears somewhere or then try the whole “let’s respect his privacy”…yet they go and wait for him for hours in front of a studio (dude has been working 16hrs straight..umm ok..), stalk him into his hotel… and if he’s off twitter for more than 24hrs they go berserk as if he was their bf or hubby “where were you? where have you been..”

I recently saw a girl saying (on tumblr): “Who else gets really excited when Tom is online”? Another one mentioned she had set her cell phone to go off whenever he posted on Twitter, she then went on and said: “When I heard the alarm I said (out loud): it’s Thomas!!!”

You know, as if they were close, as if he was privately sending HER a message. It’s insane: they create this fantasy world where they’re “girlfried and boyfriend” — and he keeps feeding their delusions!

[quote]You know, as if they were close, as if he was privately sending HER a message. It’s insane: they create this fantasy world where they’re “girlfried and boyfriend” — and he keeps feeding their delusions![quote]

HAHAHAAAA! ooooh dear..! And oh well I don’t know whether he’s feeding their delusions, I’d rather think it’s his fans overhyping his words and then creating their own cuckoo land and then he’s like a priest a god… I’m pretty sure like any other guy he must have come across porn at some point in his life eh..? *But oh nooo it’s impossible nooooo* (I can hear his fandom screams)…Go figure! The guy must have bad days but obviously very well educated he makes sure to keep it for himself in public.. I interacted with him 4 5 times within 3 weeks (yeah I got “lucky” but in fact they were normal questions and looks like he also appreciates that very much instead of indecent proposals every tweet second…) and suddenly they were following me, I had to block them, the things they were tweeting me were just too embarrassing… they are just getting out of control and it’s not just the prepubescent girls eh… and now the poor guy is apparently a potential “homewrecker” a 30-something guy posted on a forum his story on how is wife is obsessed with Hiddleston and their marriage is on the rocks since then… huh???? Adults? Adults??? *facepalm*

Haha glad you like it! Seriously he reminds me of Parker in that episode so I came up with that! I mean Hiddleston is so positive about almost anything everything…like you’d even send him to Iraq he’d gladly fight for his country, even his enemies on the battlefield will be like WTF??

Benny well I like his persona, bitchy or not, at least he’s not afraid to show it eh… I may not agree with what he says but at least he has balls hehehehe! Oh wait I heard he’s apparently getting cosy with some Russian model…? Anyway he’s not perfect, and I’m not defending his comments whatsoever but just saying that he shouldn’t apologize if he *meant* it in the first place, and assume his bitchiness! I mean I’ve been a b*tch towards people at times, and I meant it, and perhaps I will apologize for the way it was said hence I came across rude and/or hurtful, but difference is I won’t apologize for what I meant to say, I won’t take it back. After all, good guy or bad guy, you can’t please everyone… *shrug*

(…)and suddenly they were following me, I had to block them, the things they were tweeting me were just too embarrassing… they are just getting out of control and it’s not just the prepubescent girls eh…

*shudders* They’re scary. I think he genuinely enjoys his fame and his fans’s support — which is nice. But I still think he does indulge them…in a dangerous way. It’s escalating: the more attention he gives them, the crazier they become.

not true not true well he denied it I read now, he said “we’re old friends, that’s as far I know” and then apparently she’s helping him brushing his Russian.. alrighty..!

and um.. about the Hiddleston keeps feeding his fans delusions.. you were right, not only they dreams but yes he’s indulging that… saw a video where he was filming in Cologne and one of the fans was taking a pic with him, and one said as he had his arm around her “aww push harder” and he replied in a nonchalant cheeky way “that’s what they all say…” had to repeat to make sure I heard right *blank stare*… yeah he’s bringing it upon himself actually… they day he’ll have a girlfriend I’ll just make pop corn and turn on my laptop and watch the Apocalypse Tumblr…!

ah well… at least there is still Benny, and Chris E., and Idris E., and Fassy, and *perhaps* Henry Cavill but hmmm let’s see if he’s got more than just good looks, he’s sort of bland, even if paradoxically enough I’d gladly hit that…

well he denied it I read now, he said “we’re old friends, that’s as far I know” and then apparently she’s helping him brushing his Russian.. alrighty..!

Oh, I had already read that denial. When you posted that comment and I saw “Russian model”, I googled it to see if I could find any stories about it and when I did, the ones I found were exactly those denying the rumor.

Honestly, that sounded a lot more like a confirmation, in my opinion — if you read between the lines, it totally says: “Yes, I’m totally hitting that, but I won’t say anything…though I want to learn Russian so I can hit that even more”.

LOL!!! Oh, Benny…allow me to “Bitch, please” you now.

The sad thing is: for someone who claims to be searching for his soul mate so he can start a family, he sure behaves the opposite way a.k.a. “the typical Hollywood cliché”: becomes famous, dumps long term girlfriend, starts dating models.

About Parker Hiddleston — yeah, I had seen that one too. He was joking, obviously. But his fans over Tumblr were all giddy and shit. They’re probably writing (silly, bland, predictable) erotic fan fiction as we speak.

Finally…“Apocalypse Tumblr”.

LMAO — and totally hearing Wagner’s Ride of the Walkyries in my head right now . I’m so going to play it while reading their posts the moment he steps out with a new girlfriend.

hahaha well Benny could be hitting that indeed! And indeed it was a bit “cliché” that he ended his 12years relationship right when he gained fame…oh well I shall say that they grew apart and it was coincidental timing *keep repeating myself I’m believing my self made theory*

well at least he’s being honest eh, he knows he can get laid anytime now

By the way, apparently they changed the page’s name — from “The Anti-Susannah Fielding Blog” to “Antisusstans”. The girl who runs the site claims it’s not to hate on the girl, she says it’s agaisnt those who are fans of the former couple (which I think is a blatant lie).

They criticize her from her looks to the fact she allowed him to place his hand on her thigh in public once.

The robsten is unbroken tag on tumblr gave me so much life, my little brother is such a troll and posted a bunch of gay porn on the tag. The fans were pissed. Robsten fans are losers though and probably watch ‘Girls’. I’ll still take a twihard over a Cumbetbitch though. Did you hear about the fan that wanted him to sign their porn manip picture (of him) So gross. *shudder*

People on here can be downright scathing and get so mad in Leann Rhimes, Madonna, Angie posts yet somehow I’m the mad one for pointing out the he’s a douche. Not even surprised. Some people need to keep their two cents in their pocket, it’s not as if I wrote my comment to anyone in particular. Just don’t reply if you think I’m so mad. I won’t be able to ‘suck the fun’ out of your gossiping experience (snort) if you scroll on by will I ??

He should never speak again. He’s like the Kanye West of the acting world. No more interviews and misquotes…just act and be quiet. He’ll keep fans that way.

If he feels bad afterwards (which I’m not convinced of) then he needs to develop his inner dialogue and not say it. This interview pretty much killed my love for this guy. You can only cry misquote so much before people understand that you’ve become a giant dick. I don’t get the whole “I just love that he has no filter”-if he doesn’t like the idea of Elementary, fine-lots of us don’t. But he was personally insulting to someone he says he regards as a friend, not to mention to his wife (who has her own career) by insinuating that all she does is wait for JLM to come home with cash so she can go shopping.

LOL. Don’t mention the misogyny though, its better to just ignore it. That’s how it goes away.
Or so I’ve heard.

My brother always used to complain about the historical inaccuracies in Dreamworks’ ‘Anastacia’ and I’m like dude, there’s a talking bat in the movie. The were obviously not looking to be accurate. So silly.

People get really pressed when it comes to their favourite tv shows/movies/books and who gets cast. Like the reactions to the casting of Finnick in hunger games, it was amazing and pathetic all st the same time.

Lucy Liu will slay in this, I’m sure of it. I’m not excited for the show but I’ll support her in anything.

It would help if the Elementary producers didn’t go on all the time about how they are devoted to the books thus inviting fidelity comments, if the start off for Elementary hadn’t been a proposal to re-make BBC Sherlock for America followed by a transparent attempt to use the show’s concept in America while making enough big obvious changes to avoid being sued, and if they hadn’t cast a really hot woman and went on about the steamy sexual chemistry between her and Miller when asked about the sexual dynamics of the relationship. It didn’t feel like an organic decision.

I have read this thread over lunch, and then re-read it again. And as I sit here I can’t even think why race was brought into this at all? I mean, there wasn’t any opening in what Kaiser wrote or any quotes to even create a crack where race could be insinuated.

Crystal clearly you were looking to pick a fight today with anybody and everybody by tossing the race card in to play. It totally took away from Kaiser’s excellent points to ponder about Cummerbunds’ personality and American vs. British TV and its audiences. Instead you highjacked the thread to satisfy some blood lust angst against the world today. I hope you wind up having a better tomorrow then today and come back next week and can play fair.

Highjacked ?
Ok. I wrote a comment, to no one in particular, like everyone else here. I don’t pay people to read it and reply to me. They could scroll on by like they’ve done with the other comments.
I mentioned that he’s a ‘white straight posh boy’ in reference to the controversy surrounding Lucy Liu’s casting and how her race was always insulted. I guess I thought I was back on ONTD where they would get the reference and know that I’m mentioning it to mock his fans.

Crystal, YOU brought up race. YOU called him a posh white boy.
YOU called Lucy Liu the “Go to Asian”

That to me is racially insulting, especially when for most of us here seem to be blind to race.

I travel with 24 countries worth of people, from Ghana to Russia to England, Japan, Brazil, Mongolia, china, etc. and guess what? We are maybe culturally different, but all the same and race is NEVER ever even brought up. AND we all try to share our cultures and support each other.

I love my rainbow world. It’s a happy place. You just seem perpetually pissed. Maybe tumblr does that to people?
I don’t stan or think I am personally involved in any of these people’s lives, so it’s just open snark for me. Depending on the celeb in question and how they ACT to people, not what color or sex they are.

If posters are going to start using CB’s site as an outlet to vent any anger, nastiness, or negativity they’ve picked up from cruising OTHER less-than-pleasant sites, then I’m finished. This is the only celeb site I bookmark because it’s well written, light hearted, funny, smart–and the majority of posters seem to stick to a high standard of conduct. Why should any of us just assume a commenter’s aggressive tirade is aimed at all those other crazy posters on all those other crazy fan sites? We are on CB! Don’t blame Cumberbatch for crazed racist fan comments. Don’t blame CB loyals for crazed racist fan comments. Go yell at the crazed racist fans on their web sites and leave us to our sarcastic snarks, smiles, and general cleverness. When did everything get so hateful around here?

You just sound really really prejudiced and superficial. Prejudiced over looks, prejudiced against whites and prejudiced against perceived class.

I have not seen offensive statements regarding Lucy’s race in the Sherlock fandom. It has been brought up in a context of discussion like “an asian woman is playing the white guy Watson role? wtf? why even call this Sherlock Holmes when it’s in New York and everything seems totally different?” and speculation about the impact this and other changes might have. The same way people would go wtf? and speculate about impact if a Thelma and Louise remake was announced but with one of them played by a black man and set on a train instead of a car trip or a Miami Vice remake was announced where two white guys were cast as Crockett and Tubbs and the show would be set in Dallas, Texas.

I’ll take a bitchy Batch over a fame-mongering KKardashian or abusive Chris Brown any day.

If they are friends, which they’d have to be after doing Frankenstein, then JLM doing Elementary is a whole bunch of shade. And why can’t Benny be entitled to not like a tv show and say so like the rest of us?

I know this isn’t possible given the demands of publicity tours, but Cumberbatch should really should stop doing print interviews.

To what degree he is actually misquoted or mispresented I don’t know, but the fact remains he never has these problems with audio or video interviews and he comes of very well in those. He comes across different too, either something is lost in the print writing, editing or loss of visual and audio cues or all three.

Ehm…so it’s been awhile, what’s going on with Cillian Murphy these days? I kind of get off on discussions about him but then at the same time I’m like oookaaay, that’s enough talking about my man! Back off!!
I especially love him in horn rimmed glasses *sighs* :$

So glad you raised the ‘c’ word. Comparisons are stupid but I used to hold both Ben and old blue eyes in great and similar esteem. Now, because of so many childish comments from the Cumberwitch (out of context blah, blah) I’ve started to look at his acting a lot more critically and I have to say, he can’t hold a proverbial to Misterman. He does suppressed pain beautifully but takes nowhere near the risks that Cill does, nor has the range. You don’t see Mr Murphy ranting at anything much and his fans seem able to take the piss out of him too without fear of retribution. BC came back to England recently for the BAFTAs, was only back for one day before going back to the States, and what did he do? Went to see Misterman with Jude Law on its last night.

Crumby is divine… utterly fabulous… every morsel. He’s smart, intelligent, fastidious and an incredible snob. He say’s what he thinks, and then rethinks as he doesn’t want to be unkind. He can’t help himself. It’s honesty without filter. Please dont change!

The moron who compared him to K-Stew ought to be banned from any intelligent gossip site. Kristen is a twit. She got her “GED” at age 20 and thinks she’s highly developed. Crumby graduated from University, THEN went to the London Academy. He’s articulate and charming. Everything she isn’t — and NEVER will be.

If he’s not your “cup of tea”, then don’t read about him. Oh, and sod-off.

I’m looking forward to Elementary, and Sherlock is on my Kindle Fire to be watched list. Like another poster, I went from barely knowing who JLM was to loving him after seeing Emma. I’m excited to watch both of them.

I actually enjoyed reading the comments on here. As for Crystal’s comments, I think she is on point on many things — I love her wit, though it comes across as too strong for some people on here.

As for Cumby, I get the impression that he’s taken on Sherlock’s character too much to heart when it comes to his snobbishness and arrogance. His Sherlock character has acted quite a jerk in most of the episodes. Maybe it’s rubbed off on him?

As for the appeal, you know how it is with men who seem to have an air of aloofness about them which makes them more attractive to some women? Again in Cumby’s case I think it has to do with the aloofness that his Sherlock character portrays which he seems to be channeling. I myself don’t care for his weird-looking face, but I must admit that after that episode of “A Scandal in Belgravia” and how it turned out that Irene Adler seems to have penetrated Sherlock’s cool facade after all, that Cumby caught my attention and I had to Google him and watch all the back episodes of “Sherlock” that I’d missed. Now I can’t wait to see him in “Parade’s End” which has yet to be shown here in the US.

Having said all that, I agree that it was pretty low of him to steal JML’s thunder by saying what he did and then adding insult to injury by then saying he was misquoted. Phooey!!

Wow, any Anglophiles or actual Brits commenting on this story? Anyone who knows the English know that they’re notorious for “taking the piss” out of other people (which means making fun of or mocking them), and are routinely negative about the success of other British people. I think JLM has been in the US too long and been married to too many Americans.

I think Elementary looks terrible, and JLM is much too lightweight to play Holmes (who has to have a certain gravitas and has to draw the eye). I loved him in Eli Stone (playing an American) but this series looks like a stupid miscalculation on all counts. Plus no offense to Lucy Liu (who I thought was fab on Southland) but Watson should ALWAYS be male. This gender change sounds like a stupid choice made by suits who watch too much Castle and Bones.