A name for this type of roadie/group member

dab - Member
This thread pretty much sums up why road cycling clubs are in serious decline

Our club has over 600 members and more turning up every week.. So yes, in serious decline.
I reckon mtb clubs that ride 6 miles before going to the cafe and driving home have had it.
I've also done over 60 miles on my mtb today leading a club ride.
Back to OG - structured club runs aren't about sitting in and "winning the climb", they're a social run where everyone works and talks and gets to know others. When I lead a ride with a set pace and people ride off the front I change the route it breaks the group up and means everyone goes slower. But the new golfists don't get it.

Certain roadies will look down on other roadies who aren't in a club ..
Certain club roadies will look down on other club roadies who don't race ..
Certain club roadies that race will look down on other club roadies that race because they only race crits ...

And it goes on ...

Basically some people see themselves as superior to most other people. And very often for no valid reason other than their own over inflated delusional ego. Sad types really.

Certain roadies will look down on other roadies who aren't in a club ..
Certain club roadies will look down on other club roadies who don't race ..
Certain club roadies that race will look down on other club roadies that race because they only race crits ...

It seems that some clubs may be reaching a point where new members are looked upon as a hindrance due to reaching a saturation point in numbers.

I wouldn't mind joining a club and getting into racing Crits after a time, but coming from riding mtb in a pretty care free manner with mates I'm not sure it will be my scene, or more likely annoying established riders.

Of the two clubs I rode with, one had a "when you are dropped you are dropped" approach which only became apparent half way round with people being left behind (i.e. you'd better keep up or we just leave you), and the second group, the sh1t hit the fan around 20km from home when everyone started attacking each other in a race for home. Both don't sound too dissimilar to oldgits Cadel impersonator.

Neither communicated this which I think is the main thing. If a new rider knows the expectations of the group and the group communicates well with the new rider/ lesser experienced rider then I guess everyone is happier at the end of the day.

I took a group of seven "beginners" out two weeks ago for group riding 101. We covered 32 miles in formation with clear rules for calling. Rather comical, but I make the group walk through the maneuvers in the a car park before we hit the road. Then it is real-time coaching, with stops to assess how the group is doing. A little raggedy at the start, with two faster guy who I had to break up and continually tell to "ease off" and "soft pedal" (coasting is not allowed), but smooth and fast by the end, faster than some of the riders thought they were capable of riding.

We have had significant growth over the past few years, and have group riding standards that new members are required to meet. It doesn't matter how fast your ironman time was, if you can't ride in a group, then you'll be riding with the beginners and me or another ride leader until you can!

Once you've shown you are safe in a group, you can move to whichever group you want. This may be the hammerfest fast boys, or a steady semi-social group. All but the fast group have a no-drop policy. We don't leave people behind, but enjoy a sprint now and again.

Make your expectations clear at the beginning. Give feedback on how they are being met. Enjoy the ride, and the few moments when it really does feel like flying.

I would NEVER have considered racing if I hadn't joined a club, group riding gave me the confidence to have a go.