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Why should gays have to segregate the people they admire from the rest of society? We're not that downtrodden or alienated.

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There is a difference between admiring someone and looking to that person as an icon.

For example, a farmer is an Icon of ther American Midwest. Same goes for a cowboy.

The British Royal Family is an Icon of England.

The donkey and the elephant are Icons of the Democratic and Republican party. The bald eagle is an icon for America. Along with the flag.

Kylie Minogue, while an accomplished singer and cancer surviver, is NOT an Icon of gay culture, regardless of her number one postioning.

I agree with you that we are not that downtrodden and I'll go one step further. We're not downtrodden at all except if we allow ourselves to be. I have never once thought of myself as downtrodden, less than anyone else or a victim. But too many gay men and women have either actually been or consider themselves to be a victim.

The only way we will find a true gay icon is when we, as a culture, start to take more pride in ourselves and our position in society instead of wanting to be other people.

Where is Dusty???
Dusty Springfield.
Lesbian, gay icon, "Son of a Preacher Man", died in her 40s, had a huge gay following. Correct me if I'm wrong, but she had more songs in the top ten than any female recording artist ever. She was huge.

That list sucks, I couldn't give a shit about half of those people. The Beckhams...victoria beckham looks like an orange stick figure with dead eyes and bad skin. The Spice girls were a 1,2,or 3 hit wonder. Take That? Simon Cowell?

Charlotte fucking Church?? Give me a Break. Maria Callas, Kathleen Battle, or Montserrat Caballe` could sing the shit out of her whispery, edited, studio tracks. I hear she has vocal nodes anyhow...thank god.