Yeah, baby! You get a ticket. You get a ticket for panhandling. And if you catch a
nice cop that has sympathy, they'll tell you to leave and come back when they leave. Some
of them just write you a ticketsome of them just lock you up! I'm telling you, there
are some nasty ones. Things have changed.

Uh, no, 'cause what I do now is no longer what they call "panhandling." I got arrested just
this last Christmas, I was going to church over next to Fulton Street, I had a sign out saying
"Veteran, hungry, need a day's work, God bless you." And they came by and arrested me for
panhandling.

They said it was just for disturbing the peace, and I said, okay, I know a way
around this. My sign NOW says "Veteran, trying to survive, day's work wanted, or any odd
job." I never heard it being against the law asking for work.

It's against the lawespecially in ATM placesand Giuliani just passed the law
not too long ago. It's against the law to even panhandle on the street. Just recently
passed a law, panhandling in Manhattan is illegal now. Period.

The big difference is that I don't impose myself on people.
I don't bother nobody! So why can it be against the law for me
to be praying for somebody? If I ever get in trouble for praying, then this is not America!
How can I get in trouble for praying? I ain't asking for nothing! How can
I get into trouble, I'm an old man, I'm out here praying, I ain't asking
for nothing, some people going to give me somethingif not, all right.
I'm still praying. I'm preaching love, sowhat kind of trouble ... what
am I doing to get in trouble, I'm not bothering nobody! They passed a law saying
it's NOT illegal to panhandle.

Well, I tell you something. There are a whole lot of people earning money and they
ain't paying taxes. And a whole lot of people stealing, and they ain't turning it in. I
don't deal with Guiliani's law, I deal with God's law! There's man-made laws and there's
almighty Jesus' lawand that's the law I deal with.