Clearly, this shows the 180 gr .40 S&W Federal HST to be ineffective in defending against attacks from large air compressors.

I think that's the key takeaway from this demonstration!

I'm reminded of all those who shoot into water to "test" their loads. A guy in the LFI course I took a while back was talking to Ayoob about how much the particular round he carried expanded when he shot into water. Ayoob's replay was "Great! If the ocean "messes" [rude expression deleted] with you, you're all set."

May 28th, 2011, 03:52 AM

LanceORYGUN

Still, you have to admit that the 357 Sig round was impressive. But would that much penetration really be a good thing? I have my doubts myself.

Human beings are 57% water. If we were slug like creatures and had no bones, then water would be a very good analogy.

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May 28th, 2011, 04:12 AM

AZ Hawk

Quote:

Originally Posted by LanceORYGUN

Still, you have to admit that the 357 Sig round was impressive. But would that much penetration really be a good thing? I have my doubts myself.

Human beings are 57% water. If we were slug like creatures and had no bones, then water would be a very good analogy.

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Umm... How do you know they actually fired .357 SIG, .40 S&W and .30-06? They told us they did, but this is the interwebz. And then, how can you go off one unconfirmed example? And then, what does this example have to do with anything at all? :confused:

Oh, and hollow points weren't made to penetrate steel!

May 28th, 2011, 09:02 AM

greyeyezz

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Originally Posted by LanceORYGUN

Still, you have to admit that the 357 Sig round was impressive. But would that much penetration really be a good thing? I have my doubts myself.

A .22 magnum would probably penetrate the tank, but I'm not about to trade my .40 in for one. Thanks to this video, the gan bangers will now be wearing air compressors around their neck....bling and armor all in one.

May 28th, 2011, 11:19 AM

onacoma

Water testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by LanceORYGUN

Still, you have to admit that the 357 Sig round was impressive. But would that much penetration really be a good thing? I have my doubts myself.

Human beings are 57% water. If we were slug like creatures and had no bones, then water would be a very good analogy.

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Just a note, Saline (ACTUALLY SILLY-CONE) impants are just as good as a bulletproof vest. see article below::danceban:

Doctor: Size-D Breast Implant Stopped Bullet, Saved Woman

Thursday, February 25, 2010

A California woman, who was wounded during a shooting rampage inside a dental office last summer, was saved by her size-D breast implants, according to her doctor.

Lydia Carranza was shot in the chest when a gunman opened fire at the Family Dental Care Clinic in Simi Valley on July 1, 2009, KTLA.com reported. Dr. Ashkan Ghavami, a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon, said he believes her implant stopped the bullet from hitting her heart.

"I saw the CT scan," he told the Los Angeles Times. "The bullet fragments were millimeters from her heart and her vital organs. Had she not had the implant, she might not be alive today."

Although the spokeswoman for the hospital that treated Carranza said it’s not clear whether the breast implant had any impact on saving her life, a firearms instructor said it is possible.

"Common sense would dictate that any time you have something that interrupts the velocity of the projectile, it would benefit the object it was trying to strike," Scott Reitz, a deadly-force expert witness with 30 years' experience in the LAPD told the Times.

"I don't want to say a boob job is the equivalent of a bulletproof vest," he added. "So don't go getting breast enhancements as a means to deflect a possible incoming bullet."

As a result of the shooting, Carranza’s implant was completely destroyed. Ghavami now plans to perform reconstructive surgery at a reduced cost, according to the report.

Just a note, Saline (ACTUALLY SILLY-CONE) impants are just as good as a bulletproof vest. see article below::danceban:

Doctor: Size-D Breast Implant Stopped Bullet, Saved Woman

Thursday, February 25, 2010

A California woman, who was wounded during a shooting rampage inside a dental office last summer, was saved by her size-D breast implants, according to her doctor.

Lydia Carranza was shot in the chest when a gunman opened fire at the Family Dental Care Clinic in Simi Valley on July 1, 2009, KTLA.com reported. Dr. Ashkan Ghavami, a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon, said he believes her implant stopped the bullet from hitting her heart.

"I saw the CT scan," he told the Los Angeles Times. "The bullet fragments were millimeters from her heart and her vital organs. Had she not had the implant, she might not be alive today."

Although the spokeswoman for the hospital that treated Carranza said it&rsquo;s not clear whether the breast implant had any impact on saving her life, a firearms instructor said it is possible.

"Common sense would dictate that any time you have something that interrupts the velocity of the projectile, it would benefit the object it was trying to strike," Scott Reitz, a deadly-force expert witness with 30 years' experience in the LAPD told the Times.

"I don't want to say a boob job is the equivalent of a bulletproof vest," he added. "So don't go getting breast enhancements as a means to deflect a possible incoming bullet."

As a result of the shooting, Carranza&rsquo;s implant was completely destroyed. Ghavami now plans to perform reconstructive surgery at a reduced cost, according to the report.

I live in an area where attacks by old compressor tanks is very common. They often join up with discarded water heaters to form Gangs. A friend of mine knew a guy who had a cousin who heard about a homeowner who suffered a home invasion by one of these metal tank Gangs in the area. When these iron headed thugs saw his .357 sig, they drained themselves right on the carpet and fled. Luckily no one was even hurt but the rust ruined the rugs.

August 10th, 2011, 10:42 PM

TonyDTrigger

I am about to buy a Glock 29SF 10mm, now actually I am going have to check the .357 sig a little more before I make the final decision.

August 11th, 2011, 12:55 AM

Aaron1100us

Remember, it's about shot placement, not so much the caliber. .40 S&W and .357 SIG are both fine. Those are the two calibers I shoot.