I know a lot of people have stuff going on between the holidays in Nov and Dec.

That being said, I think it might be nice to push back start until 10pm EST. I know this is late for our east coast fellowship. I wouldn't recommend going past 12:30am EST. So we would be theoretically be losing half an hour of raid time per week.

Balancing raid times for multiple time zones, occupations, and life styles is difficult. We love you all and want you to raid.

Yeah Kali, it may just be the time of the year and all, with the back to back holidays and just the overall unpredictability of the season being the culprit, or maybe we're due in for some change in time or maybe a change of days we raid. I mean schedules change and all so maybe that could help with our consistency and availability. It's food for thought if anything

I voted that I would like it to change, but I was hoping for like... 7:00 or 8:00 pm EST start time.

I know this is early for our West Coast fellowship. I wouldn't recommend going past 12:00 am EST. So we would be theoretically be gaining up to two hours of raid time per raid night.

If the choice is between keeping our current time and moving it even later, I'd definitely vote for keeping it the same. And not to put words in his mouth, but I'm pretty sure Zen at least feels the same way.

It's just been hard for me lately; I get up for work at 5:00 am EST, so staying up until 1:00 am to raid two nights a week has been getting to me. Hell, I kept passing out this afternoon and just woke up a few minutes ago... only an hour and a half late for the raid.

Unfortunately, I don't get home from work until 8:15pm EST (traffic is terrible on my commute home). There's no way I'd be able to raid at 8. Acheron doesn't get back from work until 9:30pm est. I used to live on the east coast and I know the pain of having late raid times because of the west coasters.

If needed you guys could start and then us west coast people could join late? :/

As things are I begin raiding the moment I get home from work. However, I will be getting off an hour earlier from January to March (rumor has it). So I could start earlier for a couple months. But it wouldn't last, and I couldn't vouch for any other west-coaster being able to make it.

As Pal mentioned briefly, maybe we should introduce different days to raid? I know that we have discussed this a couple of time before though. Me personally, I could go with different nights to raid or just later times. I know I get off from work late on Thursdays so that would help me anyway. But there are a couple of us who are on limited play time. If we want to start Mythic Progression then we will definitely need to at least figure out better days/times to raid. OR really start showing up and getting the ball rolling ON TIME. I am just as guilty as anyone else for being late to raids (I have set a bad example).

I think I may have an idea that isn't directly related to raiding, but could help us out overall through guildies having better gear.

I'm talking, of course, about regular Mythic+ runs.

I would be delighted to spend a few hours a week running Mythic+ dungeons with a guild group, and because of the extra chances at Warforged/Titanforged/Bonus Stat/Sockets, if we had two or three Mythic+ teams running regularly, our guild would gear up significantly faster overall. All it would take would be one or two nights a week, for an hour or two.

And yes, I'm aware that people are running Mythic+ dungeons frequently, but making a few teams who rotate members would gear us up at least as effectively as raiding. In fact, that's how a lot of the top-tier guilds spend their time when they're not actually in raids. Because of the lack of lockouts, and chances at better-than Heroic loot, Mythic+ is basically infinite chances at decent gear.

What I'm saying is, we've got like just under three weeks until Nighthold hits, and I would love for us to be geared enough to plow through Normal Nighthold during its first week.