I was not using " sad " in relation to who won , only that so much reporting on the negative is overwhelming . I never cry over spilled milk , the Skins losing or other things not in my control , nor do I hate the DNC , as I beleive all Americans need to have representation . I am not bitter , I always land on my feet , and I'm healthy . I would LOVE to see Independents and Libertarians gain seats in next years mid terms , as I see that is the only thing that will change "politics as usual " . Trust me Dmek , I have learned enough not to let the Dems hurt me , I do worry about the status of many of our small Business owners and , inexperienced small investors < middle class > . I bleed RedWhite & Blue , Dem or Rep , they all boast greatness , both are full of sh--

great line. can i use it?

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Anyone have some place I can look on the the stances of Libertarians? Like all I know about them is most of them are for the legalization of weed and I'm down for that. But I don't wanna be one of those jaded college kids that are all about Libertarians just because of that.

Anyone have some place I can look on the the stances of Libertarians? Like all I know about them is most of them are for the legalization of weed and I'm down for that. But I don't wanna be one of those jaded college kids that are all about Libertarians just because of that.

Been reading around the site and I really am liking what I'm seeing. I'm a little weary on their handling of drugs but I definitely understand where they're coming from and could be sold on it with more information. I really liked what I read about the handling of crime and violence and even though I've been identifying as a dem, through personal hands on experience, I've been swayed more towards defending the private ownership rights of guns. And then of course, there's stuff like abortion and gay marriage yada yada and other social issues, that are pretty much hands off to the government and left up to the individuals which I love.

I gotta keep staying informed on this. Libertarians might just have themselves a new member by 2012. Cause I'm kinda over the Right wing v. Left wing stuff.

Well it's never all or nothing. Most people usually fall in the middle of at least one or two issues. Labeling is completely a social construct. Personally I like having label though, at least in terms of political parties it's less of limbo for me. I mean, even if you don't label what you believe, someone else will. I'd rather define myself instead of having someone do it for me.

As a libertarian I find it suspect that a woman has a right over her body but a junkie doesn't?

Every state is different. The Libertarian movement is geared towards letting local people choose what is right for themselves.

Be careful, Dynamite. Libertarian views are to the extreme right, and don't mesh well with the philosophy of the Democans or Republicrats.

Well the things I'm most concerned about are the social issues right now, which Libertarians seem to believe that at least the Federal government should have no role in. I'm down for that. And I like their stance on violence and crime and punishment. I've always leaned towards the right on that. Pro-death penalty, blah blah.

I'm sure as I get older and out of college the fiscal things and healthcare, national security, etc will mean more. But right now it all sorta falls on my deaf ears.

I like certain things, I dislike others, and some are mumbo-jumbo that isn't well thought out at all. In politics principles are shed easily and Libertarians are no different in that regard.

Perhaps . . . . There are consequences for abadoning your principles. The tea baggers are what was the base of the Republican party. As one who attends rallies, the Republicans are hated as much, if not more than the Dems are.

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