I'm bitter that Gary McAllister's goal that sealed them a 3 2 win at in 2001 in the 4th minute of injury time was allowed to stand despite him moving the ball 15 yards up the pitch.

I'm bitter that the competition rules were changed retrospectively after they won the Champions League to allow them to compete in it the next season. This is the ONLY time a rule has been changed retrospectively in the history of football.

I can understand that the winners should be allowed in it but they should have changed the rules for the following year and not to allow the shite in through the back door.

I'm bitter at the Clattenburg referring debacle, which was the worst referring performance I have ever seen.

And I'm bitter at the sending off of Rodwell on Saturday which handed them the game.

So, yes, I'm bitter but I'd still rather support us than that shower of shitehawks any day of the week.
Chris Leyland,
Formby Posted 03/10/2011 at 17:54:21

I've got to face it all in work tomorrow. Not looking forward to it at all. I'm just going to say "no comment" and ignore them. Days like tomorrow in the past i would have turned it into a full shouting match / debate. I can't be bothered about it anymore. Nobody listens.

There's so much now to recite back to them (your points covered most of my points for an arguement, thank you for doing so, i'll recommend they read this article to sum up my thoughts) but they don't take any notice - over in Belfast the glory hunters are on a different planet.

Still sickened by Saturday. Just wish Moyes had let loose on the media afterwards and hounded Atkinson like he did with Clattenburg.

But it was very hard to take. Is football corrupt? Going over the Derby's since Walter was manager would be a good starting point.

What annoys me most is the way this happens so often and yet gets brushed under the carpet without any questions asked.

My Sky Sports subscription is up for re-newal in December - it's going - Lyndon summed up perfectly in his article on Saturday.

Spot on Chris, even now two days after I am still fuming!! The fact that virtually every football pundit and writer says it was wrong to send off Jack Rodwell doesn't it make it any better, it isn't going to change the result.John #8 With inflation I reckon that Brian Labone's quote that we must be up to about 1=100 now...

And one more thing... remember the Anfield Derby in 2008 when Phil Neville was punched and spat at whilst taking a throw in. No one condones the missiles thrown this Saturday but the sanctimonious twats and their righteous indignation should take a look at themselves. the horrible bobble-hat wearing, scarf waving, badge colllecting knobheads.

Brian Barwick, Chief Executive of The FA back when Liverpool were allowed back into the CL.

?Now, as we faced the last few weeks of the 2004/5 season, that lifelong support for the Reds could possibly blow up in my face if I was not able to steer a positive and neutral course though the quagmire of football politics and do what was right for all sides.?

?Rick Parry, Liverpool?s CEO, threw the problem both the FA?s and UEFA?s way. And so we began a period of hasty negotiations with key people in Geneva. FA chairman Geoff Thompson?s quiet diplomacy and FA executive David Davies? energy helped as did the phone calls and political pestering but the clock was ticking.

?We kept the pressure up. Phone call, followed email, followed visit ? and eventually UEFA cracked.

?On June 10th, they announced that Liverpool FC would be allowed to defend the title in an ?historic? one-off decision which would allow five English clubs to enter the following season?s Champions League.

At Lescott being wrestled, fucking manhandled and wrestled to the floor with no penalty being given (was that Clattenburg- possibly was),

With Gerrard running for 35 yds no problem and then as soon as he gets in the box, clearly sticking his leg out telescopically at 90 degrees and going over for a penalty to be given and trouble for Hibbert (was that Clattenburg also ? possibly was).

Mick Lyons, or was it Dave Johnson having a perfectly good goal disallowed in an early 70s 0-0 game,

Labone getting a bad injury which turned the '71 Cup semi from victory to defeat.

Why can't we have a day when we come back from 2-0 down to beat them 3-2? Well I for one fucking well am!!

Fuck me, is enough not enough. We were cheated but God almighty the response is starting to get out of proportion. We take it on the chin and fight back or we fucking whinge for the rest of the season. I'm starting to think that the response of David Moyes was pretty good .

I am with you Andy. It was shite but let's not forget the amount of dodgy decisions we have had in our favour.

I am thinking about penalties against Watford and Hull in particular.

Or is that okay because it was against "small clubs"?

Before you all start, I was just as disgusted as the rest of you about the red card and all the other decisions that have gone against us over the years. But let's not forget that somewhere there is a fan of another club who is still bitter about a decision WE got against THEM.

However, I still can't wait for the day when we finally give the Redshite the humiliation they deserve.

Andy Crooks, sorry mate but fans with your manner is the reason we are in the mess we are in now. Brush everything under the carpet seems to be your forte... well, no!!

We do not do enough complaining imo. If Saturday's decision was reversed and Suarez got sent off, there would have been a public enquiry in the Commons; we have taken everything and just accepted it.

What about the European ban? I would have taken Liverpool and the FA to high court for restricting our business through actions of others, do you think if Everton fans had killed 39 fans they would have accepted a blanket ban? Would they hell.

Same again 2004 Uefa put them back in and turfed us out, and we said nothing.

I recieved a letter from the then Chief Executive Dunford stating Everton had applied/asked for availability of Stanley Park 3 times and were refused, they ask once and get it granted, did we complain, NO!!

Can you see Everton going to Anfield in the next 4 seasons and getting 4 penalties and they have 4 sent off? No, and the reason is? you get nothing given when you play there, so why do we have to suffer 4 sendings off and 4 penalties on our own ground to them?

I and all on here are sick of it, and it's about time we stood up and take issue with these injustices, otherwise why bother playing them? It is 11-14 before we even kick off, not withstanding the money imbalance, so please stop saying "Let's forget it," mate, because no we bloody well shouldn't.

Remember fat Rafa's SAF Man U outburst press conference about 2 years ao? I reckon Moysey should do something similar but produce video evidence of all the valid points made by Chris Leyland. Do it a week before the Anfield derby.... see if that helps

1. Wayne Clarke dissallowed goal that would have given us a 2-1 win at Anfield, not sure of the date but we had gone 1-0 down and Trevor Steven had equalised from a penalty (!!!). There was absolutely nothing wrong with Clarke's header but mysteriously ruled out.

2. An absolute stone wall penalty for an assault by Garry Abblett on Pat Nevin in the first game of the FA Cup trilogy at Anfield - the game ended 0-0. The referree for the day one Neil Midgley later admitted he was wrong.

The big thing is i dont think i can remember one single blatant decision that has gone against them in all my time watching these games. The only two that come close are a bit of an iffy penalty for a climbing offence on Big Dunc and maybe not having Fellaini sent off last year in the incident that saw that Greek twat sent off for the shite.

Its the fact that the decisions are all one way that makes us so bitter...

Ah! Cheers for that Mike @ 29..... That has to be the most blatant penalty not awarded in the history of football! To this day, I still fly into a rage whenever I see that one..... Couldn't remember who the ref was, but Midgley has gone on my list now

Midgley was a red, from Warrington,I think, and at a Sports Dinner after he'd retired he admitted to a mates wife (also a red) that he KNEW the Nevin tackle was a penalty but "I wasn't going to give THEM (us) a penalty at our place (Anfield)".Don't anyone evr try to tell me referees aren't capable of being biased.

Eugene, I understand what you are saying, what can we do, fans can do one thing not turn up at Anfield, why bother going to be abused by their moronic fans and then have the piss taken out of you for 90 minutes while the ref makes sure they come out on top. This will then highlight the issue.

The main problem is the club are too nice; I agree with poster above Moyes should do a Rafa style rant about all the decisions that have gone against us whilst playing them. It is a staggering list, the only time I ever remember them moaning was the opening goal in the 3-0 game, when Cahill "fell" on Alonso.

I think the 15 teams outside the Sky 5 should get together and tell the Premier League and Sky to go and stuff themselves, I dont see any point of playing in a league where 3/4 of teams have no chance of competing, and whatsmore are deliberately prevented from competing.

See what happened after our 4th place finished and also what happened the following season when all the Spurs players got poisoned on the last day and consequently Arsenal snook back in. I am still amazed nobody ever mentions this, but it wasn't a Sky 5 team, so it doesn't matter. Can you imagine the furore if rs players got poisoned and knocked them out the CL?

.....and should we also be the most bitter about our club not paying the rent increase at Anfield ? just think, a few extra bob a week and they would not even EXIST. Oh, my, how I wish we would have paid that extra money!

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