They both agree that our criminal justice is a sham, but they couldn’t come from more disparate perspectives.

How Dinesh D’Souza ever ended up in the same room with Bill Ayers is a mystery to me. But . . . it was refreshing to hear both perspectives and it was encouraging to discover that the masses of American people agree with D’Souza regarding Ayers attitudes, behaviors of the past, and the injustice in the criminal justice system that has served Ayers quite well.

The Moderator Asks:Do either of you feel our criminal justice system has become too political?

Ayers: Our political justice system is a catastrophe. It’s a catastrophe and it’s and what was exposed in Ferguson, that the criminal justice system is kind of powered that the financing of it is powered by the kind of targeting of poor people. That’s true in Ferguson it’s true in Chicago. One of my sons as a public defender in San Francisco he deals with poor people every day who are run through the system for the most petty things and they absolutely are caught up in you know in a vise that really steals from them and and kind of purrs along in an oppressive way. So I think our criminal justice system is catastrophic and needs to be dramatically changed. One of the things I think is also catastrophic in it is that the political system is something that’s now for sale, it’s on the auction block. Dinesh referred to his time in custody, were you in custody, I’m not sure? He had an assistant drop him off at his sleeping quarters overnight. I offered to write him a letter to the judge asking him not to put the nation prison he turned it down because I was going to advocate that he go to North Carolina and registered voters which would fit the crime of corrupting the political process in New York. But no I think the criminal justice is deeply corrupt and it’s corrupted by politics.

D’Souza: Okay, the inequity of our criminal justice system is on full display right on this podium right here. So, I gave $20,000 of my own money over the campaign finance limit. I got eight months in overnight confinement.

“You bomb the pentagon, and try to bomb all kinds of other things, how much time did you do in the slammer”

Ayers: You admitted to committing a felony which you did and it was a felony that was pretty serious the democracy which was an attempt to buy an election.

D’Souza: Bill, right about the time I case was going to court another fellow named Chuck Wall, another Asian Indian guy, we Asian Indians appear to specialize in campaign finance violations, but this guy gave a hundred and eighty grand in straw donations to Hillary Clinton and a whole group of democrats. He was also found guilty of witness tampering and he boasted about corruption. He goes before a judge in New York, a federal judge, No prison, no confinement, so here’s my point. Yes, justice is a matter of did you break the law, but it’s also a matter of does the penalty fit the crime. Do other guys who do the same thing get roughly the same offence.

“Under The Obama Administration I Will Say That Progressive Justice Is A Complete Sham It’s An Oxymoron.”