I wish I had more artistic ability, so many ideas pop into my head, but I have no reason to draw them as stick figures. I wish that FunnyJunk was made up of more readers than anything else, but no such luck.

If she didn't want him ejaculating inside her, she should have told him to wear a condom. I mean yeah, it was a dick move on his part if it was intentional, but what if it wasn't? And as for the "behaving aggressively" tidbit, maybe he just likes rough sex. She could have told him to stop at any time, and if he refused, then it's rape. Otherwise I don't think the law needs to be involved at all. Poor guy shouldn't go to jail and be marked as a sex offender for the rest of his life just 'cause he busted too early.

thats not rape, rape would be if she wasnt a slut who wanted to have sex and some guy ripped her off the street and brutally forced her to have sex with him, rape is like someone desecrating your body while are still alive. this this is so far from that it might aswell be a fucking barn

For the moment it's being charged as rape because it's the closest equivalent.

Technically speaking the logic is that since rape is having sex with someone who hasn't given you permission to have sex with them. Since he was told to pull out, he did not have permission to be inside her vagina at the moment he was ejaculating.

Sure it's not 100% Rape rape, but since there's no law called Unlawful Insemination, it's the only charge available. Dude's probably gonna end up declared not guilty since it's such a massive stretch and sets a very dangerous precedent.

ok, thats pretty much what i was saying, that its a massive stretch and should be called somthing else because something this mininiscule being called rape takes away from the feeling of just how fucked up rape is.

"The ruling said: "She believed that he intended and agreed to withdraw before ejaculation. (He) knew and understood that this was the only basis on which she was prepared to have sexual intercourse with him.

"In short, there is evidence that he deliberately ignored the basis of her consent to penetration as a manifestation of his control over her."

Shortly after penetration - and without giving the woman "any chance to object" - the man had said he would be "coming inside her" and had added "I'll do it if I want"."

Rape doesn't necessarily involve force, just lack of consent, (slipping a roofie in someones drink, taking advantage of a passed out person, or if you want to get silly with it, fucking your twin brother's wife while pretending to be him.)

If a woman says essentially "I consent to sex on the condition that you pull out before ejaculating.", then the guy sticks it in her and says "I will ejaculate inside of you." then the consent naturally becomes void.

I think this case is special because the guy was so direct in his intent to violate her consent.

ok that makes sence if he had premeditated cummin inside her inorder to exert his control. i thought they were saying that if a man cam in a woman (which can be a mistake) and she wanted him to pull out it would be considered rape. but if it is this then ya he is a fucker and should be put in some kind of institution or atleast a list. but it does set a bad president if it is classified as rape since there are already many women calling rape for their mistakes inregards to consentual sex.

Stop trying to ruin sex. Sex is fucking awesome, it shouldn't be some law of the jungle shit where if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. If a chick says pull out, you pull the fuck out. If someone offers you half a sandwich you don't eat the full thing. This is not hard.

People like you are the reason we can't have nice things. People like you are the reason law is so tedious. We have to spell out every single thing in every law, missing no details, because people like you will somehow find a loophole and use it as justification for committing atrocious acts against humanity.

I do not say this often, because I like to see the good in people, but here it is: You, sir, are a terrible person. I would love to introduce your genitals to a meat tenderizer.

Actually, there are laws on verbal agreements. Agreeing not to come inside someone is part of the verbal contract, just as consent is. So, basically, it's consent with terms, and disrespecting the terms means breaching the contract and the immediate removal of consent.

IT's like when your mommy tells you 'I'm gonna give you a cookie only if you are a good boy.' And if you're not, she doesn't.

If he was told to pull out and just completely ignored that, which is what it sounds like from the "acted aggressively" part, then yeah, it's sorta similar to rape.

Sorta like being in a car crash with someone driving drunk, if the dude stops paying attention and slams into a tree, you knew the risk and shouldn't be surprised when you wake up in a wheelchair. If the dude screams "FUCK YOU TREE!" and swerves into it deliberately, you can sue him.

Your not seriously suggesting that whether a man pulls out or not could save him from a decade in jail? In the wise words of Billy Connolly talking to a priest about natural contraception 'Father my arse can't go in that direction'

If the attitudes "shit, sorry, i was caught up in the moment." I don't know, it's clumsy and inconsiderate but not outright malicious.

If its "fuck you, I can do what I want, I don't have to listen to you while I'm literally inside you." then that's seriously fucked and should be a crime. Probably not rape but definitely illegal.

Since it's impossible to prove intent in a case like this though, it's best it just be enforced by society. Refusing to pull out when you're told to should be heavily frowned upon, and everyone should know it makes you a fucking asshole.

You are either not a man or a virgin. No one can pull out on cue. I've tried it several times for reasons other than conception ;) and I was waaay too slow every time. Are we really expected to have a law that dictates how men can cum and cannot cum? Will it be like hackers? After they have serve their jail time will a porn agency instantly employ him?

Like I said, It's about the principal of the whole thing. Accidents will happen, but if you read the full article on the BBC you'll see the girl said pull out right from the beginning you'll see the girl agreed that they have sex on the condition that the guy pulls out, guy starts humping her then angrily says "I'm coming inside you. I'll do it if I want." Then instantly blows his load. That's pretty rapetastic.

Also yes, it's hard to pull out on cue that's why you don't pull out on cue and do some wicked ass titty blast (for contraception at least, keep trying for the skill shot.), just stop when you know it's coming on the horizon and finish with a blowie or a handjob.

If youre having trouble pulling out on cue you have some serious issues with self control. Its pretty obvious to feel when youre about to cum, so pulling out shouldnt usually be a problem. The reason you shouldnt do it as contraception is because precum can have semen in it aswell, also there is the risk of pulling out too late, seeing as you just said you cant. But saying that "noone can pull out on cue" is simply not true.

Also, saying that other person is either not a man or is a virgin only shows your own sexual frustations/insecurities.

From our conversations you really don't strike me as the kind of guy who has or will ever know the touch of a woman. Why is this such a major concern for you?

Girl says get out of her vagina and you don't get out of her vagina that's rape. I know I literally said it wasn't rape two comments above this, but not that I'm picturing a creepy fucker like you refusing to stop humping after you've just been told directly to do so, it's rape again.

Congratulations, your sheer idiocy has just added legitimacy to an originally tenuous ruling.

For any people just stumbling upon this conversation wondering what was in sundance's deleted posts and why he's so upset. He's in a bit of a miff because I called him out on posting the fact that if a girl told him to pull out he'd say no and keep going until forced off.

"No, I will not pull out. She committed to the sexual act. She made no reservations before hand. I will do what I fucking want."

Exact quote.

He also sleeps on a mattress made of human skin and spends multiple hours a day staring angrily at the world through the attic window of his isolated motel in the countryside, occasionally muttering things like "fucking cunt" and "ignorant bitch" to himself. That parts just speculation, but I'm pretty sure it's accurate.