Donno if this is uncool to post since it's kind of on the religion subject, but I've gotta do it...

Why do I see no posts or anything regarding Paganism? I mean, this can almost be considered History rather than religion. Why does it seem that everyone is so up on the Celtic cross, knotwork, runes, etc. and all things of that nature, but no one ever mentions Paganism? For everyone of Northeren European heritage, these are your roots folks. We were ALL originally Pagan peoples. I see lots of talk about the Nordic side of things, which is very cool, but no mention of anything like Asatru. What's up with that?

Because religious discussion is not allowed on these forums, whether the discussion be civil or chaotic. Ever see very many threads about Christianity/Islam/WCotC/any other religions? There are very few.

I posted a thread about Asatru holy books a few months ago in the Culture & Customs forum if you're that interested.

>>>Grand_Inquisitor Jugding by the amount of your posts in review, I suspect you haven't read the guidlines for posting, or you are just recalcitrant.

No, after 6 mos. of nearly daily use of these forums I'm well aware of the guidelines regarding religious discussion, and have reminded many people spouting Bible verses and other Christian dogma of them. That's why I mentioned no specific issues whatsoever, didn't go on about my personal beliefs in any way, and didn't encourage anyone else to do so either. I was only asking a simple question. I see people casually mention that they are Christians, some even putting Bible verses in their sigs. However, I never see anyone mentioning "I'm a pagan" or having related things in their sigs and was simply wondering why this was so. What I'm wondering is if a) people simply aren't mentioning it, but there are plenty of Pagans here or b) there are few to no professed pagans here or c) people just don't know much of anything about it. My post did not concern discussion of any particular facet of any Pagan belief (and there are many) in any way.

As almost the whole of Northern Europe, and Germany and pretty much every other country in the area were originally Pagan peoples, this is both our history and our culture. Paganism and the history and culture of the Anglo Saxon is inseperable.

>>>We don't have pagan workshops or bible studies here. Does that help?

I'm more than aware of that.

>>>Ever see very many threads about Christianity <snip>

Yep, all the time. Usually if the entire thread is about that, it gets deleted in short order. I do however see people profess their faith in individual posts very frequently with little to no uproar (except by me, lol)

>>>/Islam/WCotC/any other religions? There are very few.

Yes, few to none of that order.

>>>I posted a thread about Asatru holy books a few months ago in the Culture & Customs forum if you're that interested.

Oh good god...
As an active student of the Occult, Witchcraft, Paganism in general, and pre-crusades European traditions for the last thirteen years, if I get involved over there I may never be heard from again here. LOL!

Believe it or not, I've described myself as a pagan to people in person and on other message boards. I've never had any hostile reactions. The people I say it to in person seem to be amused by it. I say with a big smile "I'm a racist antisemitic pagan." I mean 'pagan' according to the dictionary, i.e. no religion. I don't believe in any gods or devils. To me, god(s) is(are) a strictly human conceit. Only 'people' are conceited enough to believe that some god is going to protect them or punish them. I think the reason they don't allow religion on this board is because of people like me. I disdain christians almost as much as jooz and we're trying to unite, not divide. But you have to admit, the christian sheep are condoning miscegenation and condemning racism as much as there jewist sheep herders. For separatists and nationalists, the christians are almost as much of a problem as the jooz. I mean, I'm always wondering why everyone is worried about Moslems.

Pagan and heathen are synonymous in my dictionary. I think in the old world sense it meant not christian or jew. Or else no organisied or codified religion. Maybe in olden times there were pagan religions with 'pagan gods'. I could say 'atheist', but it's just another joo word like 'gay'. Hey, did you hear the new one? Now when they talk about fags and dikes, they say 'lesbigay'. Jooz like to make up new words.

Originally posted by William Z Pagan and heathen are synonymous in my dictionary. I think in the old world sense it meant not christian or jew. Or else no oragnisied or codified religion. Maybe in olden times there were pagan religions with 'pagan gods'.

Pagan was basically a pejoritave such as "redneck." Literally translated, it means a "person of the fields." It has the same root as the French "Paysan," from which we derived "peasant." Heathen embodies the same concept. A heathen was a man from the "heath," which in old Scottish/English meant an uneducated peasant who still clung to the old ways.

Perhaps in a few centuries "redneck" will have a meaning identical to "pagan." Who knows though? Maybe, if we keep up the fight, people will call them "zionists" instead.

>>>"So I guess you are saying that all the Christian kings and people of Scandanavia(like Karl the 12th,etc.) aren't part of our history?"

I never said any such thing, please don't put words in my mouth.

>>>Actually, I find the midieval history and post Enlightenment of Christian Europe to be fascinating. Christian Kings like Karl the 12th(Protestant-like most Northern People), the Hapsburg Monarchs, Jan Sobieski or The Sun King(Catholics), Peter the Great(Orthodox) fascinating to read about, and these people are all part of our culture and history.

That's all well and good, it simply wasn't the point of this thread, that's all.

>>>"As for your assertion that there's no pagans here... "

I never asserted any such thing. Again, please don't put words in my mouth. I was simply asking a question, the point of which I see is now beyond lost. This will be my last post on this thread as I can see it's not going anywhere.

Any mods may feel free to delete this thread, or we can just let it sink and die.