Brain In A Dish Flies Plane

Have you all gone mad?! The hollywood brainwashing has truly done it's job. Whether you believe in god or not is your own choice, but playing with
nature like this is bound to invoke "something" terrible. Sure there most certainly are some amazing things that could be done with this technology,
but for the love of all things, are you willing to put your trust in the shadow governments to not abuse this? You can only f**k with mother nature
for so long before she gets pissed and wallops all of us back to the stone age.

This was a fascinating share. I'm trying to figure out why so many people would flag such a cool thing. My only complaint is that I don't think it
was easy to read using the quote boxes in the way you did, but still cool as hell. I can just tell that in the future, grown rat neurons might be a
common thing you find in specialized electronics, warfare, and might eventually become common place in consumer electronics.

...and I'm not one to bring up ethics all that often, but doesn't this begin to cross the line into some kind of sentient being slave subject?..
I realize that it just a rats for now, but where does that stop..and what happens if this things becomes self aware and gets pissed that its a
slave-plane and freaks out? robots are robots and thats understandable..but this is a veeery slippery slope.

Considering the original article was written in 2004, I'm quite sure the military has gone way beyond what the U. of Florida began.
I've always thought the only way to attain consciousness in an artificially created "thinking machine" was to use living brain cells, as in the old
"Demon Seed" movie. I would not be surprised if the military(and/or its corporate partners/enablers) has created a myriad of applications and
developments of this concept.
Skynet, indeed.

This was a fascinating share. I'm trying to figure out why so many people would flag such a cool thing. My only complaint is that I don't think it
was easy to read using the quote boxes in the way you did, but still cool as hell. I can just tell that in the future, grown rat neurons might be a
common thing you find in specialized electronics, warfare, and might eventually become common place in consumer electronics.

Glad you enjoyed it. Just to clarify, you flag a thread that you find interesting or feel others should read. It's a good thing, kinda calls
attention so more are likely to notice. I only mention this bc it sounds like you might think flagging is negative.

The US and many other major countries have a sad history of experimentation on their citizens, especially if there's a MILITARY gain to be had.

Human radiation experiments

Researchers in the United States have performed thousands of human radiation experiments to determine the effects of atomic radiation and radioactive
contamination on the human body, generally on people who were poor, sick, or powerless.[52] Most of these tests were performed, funded, or supervised
by the United States military, Atomic Energy Commission, or various other US federal government agencies.

The experiments included a wide array of studies, involving things like feeding radioactive food to mentally disabled children or conscientious
objectors, inserting radium rods into the noses of schoolchildren, deliberately releasing radioactive chemicals over U.S. and Canadian cities,
measuring the health effects of radioactive fallout from nuclear bomb tests, injecting pregnant women and babies with radioactive chemicals, and
irradiating the testicles of prison inmates, amongst other things.

Ultimately, public outcry over the experiments led to the 1994 Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments.

Radioactive iodine experiments

In 1953, the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) ran several studies on the health effects of radioactive iodine in newborns and pregnant women at the
University of Iowa. In one study, researchers gave pregnant women from 100 to 200 microcuries (3.7 to 7.4 MBq) of iodine-131, in order to study the
women's aborted embryos in an attempt to discover at what stage, and to what extent, radioactive iodine crosses the placental barrier. In another
study, they gave 25 newborn babies (who were under 36 hours old and weighed from 5.5 to 8.5 pounds (2.5 to 3.9 kg)) iodine-131, either by oral
administration or through an injection, so that they could measure the amount of iodine in their thyroid glands.[53]

In another AEC study, researchers at the University of Nebraska College of Medicine fed iodine-131 to 28 healthy infants through a gastric tube to
test the concentration of iodine in the infants' thyroid glands.[53]

In a 1949 operation called the "Green Run," the AEC released iodine-131 and xenon-133 to the atmosphere which contaminated a 500,000-acre (2,000
km2) area containing three small towns near the Hanford site in Washington.[54]

In 1953, the AEC sponsored a study to discover if radioactive iodine affected premature babies differently from full-term babies. In the experiment,
researchers from Harper Hospital in Detroit orally administered iodine-131 to 65 premature and full-term infants who weighed from 2.1 to 5.5 pounds
(0.95 to 2.5 kg).[53]

From 1955 to 1960 Sonoma State Hospital in northern California served as a permanent drop off location for mentally handicapped children diagnosed
with cerebral palsy or lessor disorders. The children subsequently underwent painful experimentation without adult consent. Many were given irradiated
milk, some spinal taps "for which they received no direct benefit." 60 Minutes Wednesday learned that in these fifteen years, the brain of every
cerebral palsy child who died at Sonoma State was removed and studied without parental consent. According to the CBS story, over 1,400 patients died
at the clinic.[55]

In 1962, the Hanford site again released I-131, stationing test subjects along its path to record its effect on them. The AEC also recruited Hanford
volunteers to ingest milk contaminated with I-131 during this time.[53]

FINALLY! My brainphone can scamper down the stairs, put on a pot of tea, jump in my car, drive itself to my office, park, run inside, and do my job
for me, all while I snorg the misses and drink tea. Superb.

On a serious note...can someone PLEASE get me off this #ing planet before this all backfires?!!!

I thought of something similar to this 40 years ago and people just laughed at me, mine was a chicken brain computer not rat brain.
Though simlilar in concept, the chicken brains were not viable long enough to be practical and plus who can eat that much chicken.

You might think I'm joking, but some 37 years ago I invented the first hand held electronic calculator to convert binary to hexadecimal, to
alphanumeric and so on, back then you hand to do it long hand.
Now hey sell for what 10 bucks US.

They'll use it to better understand intelligence so they can make synthetic brains.

However, AI based on the brain will have the same ethical questions, so....

It's a murky pond we're swimming in. Is it worth getting to the other side? Probably, if the past is any guide. But who knows what price has been paid
to bring us and everything into being?

Ultimately, nature ain't perfect. Nature is an experimenter. It kills its bad creations. Its goal is to create a higher form of intelligence or being.
It embedded in us the same drive. But how much we will kill in the process of attempting to attain higher forms of intelligence or being is an open
question.

Can they discriminate between "I AM" and pure intelligence? Are the rat neurons merely intelligence or are they the embodiment of "soul" or "spirit"
or, more succinctly, consciousness? If they're -only- intelligence then there's no name or identity given to them. Because even fuzzy logic and neural
nets and heuristics are a form of intelligence, but they're not self-aware as we're. We have a consciousness. A name. We're not just logic. We're not
just problem solvers. We're less tangible.

Intelligence, according to my dictionary, is the ability to comprehend or understand. It's not the ability to be self-aware. Even software can be
intelligent. Self-awareness is consciousness.

Yea like that guy is trying to recruit billionaires who want to live forever.

But his ideal is to put person in a computer, that is not good, how would you get out. Would it really have the ablity to do what a human brain does,I
doubt it.

That's also what they thought about my chicken brain computer, like you said kind of creepy. The poor chicken and I try to not even eat animals
these days.

This will help in solving a lot of the physical problems people face these days though, like blindness, being palatalized. If yor rable to link to
some electrode and be able to walk again or see that would be great.

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