tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post3161294120347175207..comments2016-11-09T23:33:21.904-06:00Comments on AngryBlackBitch: Say it!Pamela Merritthttps://plus.google.com/114081928830034520671noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-63600546902294507562009-02-11T12:20:00.000-06:002009-02-11T12:20:00.000-06:00I too was waiting for the hard hitting questions o...I too was waiting for the hard hitting questions only to be disappointed. <BR/><BR/>While I am not for regulating who gets to be a parent and how many children one shall have, this woman's situation is wrong to me on so many levels. It even infuriated me more when I saw the interview of the woman's mother and their current living situation with first 6 children. <BR/><BR/>Both the Dugger family and the media coverage on past multiple births glamorizes having larger families and at times are rewarded. (I even heard that this woman is lining up interview after interview now) Now I am not a fan of the Dugger family but I am more concerned with Suleman’s situation. Financial and ethnic differences aside, I question who will be charged with the task of taking care of these children, physically, financially and emotionally? Even though I question the Dugger’s emotional availability for their kids, at least they are fed and healthy (and I say that loosely.) With Suleman’s case those questions have not been addressed and even Suleman’s own mother, who is currently taking care of the first 6, questions what Suleman will will do. This are the questions most mothers think about and really I wonder if this crossed her mind.. <BR/>Honestly I don't think it ever has. <BR/><BR/>SMHMiss DQhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00817218050527292499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-53599632780765337912009-02-11T10:52:00.000-06:002009-02-11T10:52:00.000-06:00Okay, I'm late on this one. I watched the intervie...Okay, I'm late on this one. I watched the interview last night and let me say that it is completely RIDICULOUS that this woman used "God selected these babies" rhetoric to avoid selectively aborting some of the underdeveloped fetuses. Especially when we know God's will had NOTHING to do with the harvesting and ex-vivo fertilization of the eggs resulting in embryo formation and subsequent implantation of the embryos.<BR/><BR/>That bitch is stupid, selfish, and misusing "God's law" to serve her own interests. In other words, she would have served the Bush administration well!<BR/><BR/>Ick!Infuriated Faggothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03954057246518407364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-25330875717837116942009-02-10T21:21:00.000-06:002009-02-10T21:21:00.000-06:00Pam was nominated as one of the top political/femi...Pam was nominated as one of the top political/feminist bloggers in the 2009 Lezzy Awards. I hope everyone will go vote for her starting Wed. morning at 9 am CST. You can do so here: http://www.thelesbianlifestyle.com<BR/><BR/>The 3rd annual awards had over 4,000 nominations, but ABB was voted one of the top 3 finalists.Hahn at Homehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17340392061207298502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-29368460861248287342009-02-10T18:50:00.000-06:002009-02-10T18:50:00.000-06:00Increased population + Lack of resources = ?!#@!Ms...Increased population + Lack of resources = ?!#@!<BR/><BR/>Ms. Sulemon long ago may have benefitted from psychiatric evaluation. That is now rather moot. She apparently has an education yet she proves that that is also moot.Cruel Hand Ukenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-68462148491966321072009-02-10T15:58:00.000-06:002009-02-10T15:58:00.000-06:00i guess i wonder why this woman is getting absolut...i guess i wonder why this woman is getting absolutely skewered in the press and other places- but the duggars- 'parents' of 18 are revered with corporate sponsors because they are white, evangelical and republican. i guess i wonder why the doctor implanted so many embryos without maybe doing some research first. lots of questions- like why the hell in the land where we have contraceptives and a planet that is off the charts with population- why are we still birthing children?<BR/><BR/>why- when we have a choice and so many women on this planet don't- are we so arrogant that we think that we deserve a child? what is it that you have that you believe you can offer a child? and personally, 'because i want one' isn't a good enough answer. children in the western countries are little more than accessories to a lifestyle these days and it's disgusting.betmohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16206096509976316141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-36514159238695429992009-02-10T15:19:00.000-06:002009-02-10T15:19:00.000-06:00OK I'm gonna stick my neck out a little and ask wh...OK I'm gonna stick my neck out a little and ask whether the fact that there are already way way too many people gets to count in this discussion? As to who gets to have children, and how that decision gets made, even my most radical take on the issue still knows that there is no good way to answer. Laws? I can't get behind laws that try to tell people not to do things we all know they are going to do anyway. We have lots of those, and how are they working out for us? Regulations on the fertility industry? Fine, but who gets to make them? On the personal level, I'm just glad I'm not one of the fourteen siblings being discussed here, but for my own reasons. I'm not saying she can't successfully raise all of those kids, maybe she can; I know women who have done more with less (not very many, though, fourteen is a lot). But I am getting a message from your post about birth-as-an-event to be covered in the media for a week then forgotten vs. eight lives to be lived by those resulting from the event. I'm not saying that the media CAUSES women to seek multiple pregnancies, but they probably do encourage some who were leaning that way anyway. So I guess it comes back to whether you view eight births as miraculous or problematic, and that looks like a culture war issue to me.<BR/> -Doug in Oaklanddinthebeasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12941071534250216503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-7678298700535846492009-02-10T13:07:00.000-06:002009-02-10T13:07:00.000-06:00Good point,Shark Fu! This reproduction as entertai...Good point,Shark Fu! This reproduction as entertainment cycle has been played out. First there was the woman who gave birth to so many children,all with names starting with the same letter.Now this...<BR/>I am equally repulsed by both. Whatever happened to the best interests of the child?<BR/>The outrage seems to be centered around economics not raising whole,well rounded children.briannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-63902689433841493392009-02-10T12:51:00.000-06:002009-02-10T12:51:00.000-06:00Your question is whether Skinner v. Oklahoma ex re...Your question is whether Skinner v. Oklahoma ex rel Williamson, 316 U.S. 535 (1942) really overturned Buck v. Bell, 274 U.S. 200(1927). <BR/><BR/>In the Buck case the Supreme Court said it was okay to sterilize mentally retarded persons for the good of society. The Skinner Court said that Oklahoma couldn't sterilize convicted persons for eugenic reasons, that would be those evil criminal DNA traits.<BR/> <BR/>In Stanley v. Illinois, 405 U.S. 645 (1972) the Court said that the "rights to conceive and to raise one's children have been deemed 'essential.'"<BR/><BR/>So everyone gets to be a parent, that is a fundamental right. <BR/><BR/>Your next question about doing it the old fashioned way versus tinkering with science opens up another discussion. <BR/><BR/>Who sets the limits? Is it for the rich only? What about a couple of lesbian ladies or the single woman who agrees that she needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle? Do we treat the putative parents differently if she or they conceived the old fashioned way, or through artificial insemination, or by in vitro. <BR/><BR/>It's back to Mr. Mason saying to Mr. Dixon: "You've gotta draw that line somewhere!"xobekimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11116310733654658420noreply@blogger.com