we are on the hot end side of exhaust. Just aftertreament devices. I work for company out of Buffalo that manufactures the mats that are used inside of Cats DPFs, DOCs, SCRs. Its a small world im sure we know several of the same people. My big customers are Katcon, Eberspaecher, GM, Chysler, and Faurecia. we also deal with tenneco, Benteler, PNC, Shilo, and Big Rapids in the US.

We have ran a couple jobs that involved that stuff. Our biggest cutomers have gone from Red Bull racing and Penske racing to Faurecia and Tenneco over the last couple years. We do a couple jobs for Eberspaecher and Katcon in my building but i think we run parts for them at the stamping plant all the time. We do lots of prototype perforated tubes for mufflers on our tube laser.

So 8% unemployment is the new normal?
Somebody is fudging the numbers to try and convince the people things are better than they really are. Hey we, or should I say our federal government is spending a Trillion dollars more every year than they bring in and they think that Taxing the people will get the debt under control.

Do you ever read the threads you coment in?
Everyone is talking about how much work they have but you still try to make sound like a conspiracy theory. Adjust your tin hat.

And of course the numbers don't reflect people who stop looking for work. How do you differentiate between a hooker who gets a sugar dady then stops looking and a person who just gives up. There are many reasons why people don't want to work.

Do you ever read the threads you coment in?
Everyone is talking about how much work they have but you still try to make sound like a conspiracy theory. Adjust your tin hat.

And of course the numbers don't reflect people who stop looking for work. How do you differentiate between a hooker who gets a sugar dady then stops looking and a person who just gives up. There are many reasons why people don't want to work.

No I never read the threads I post in. I just jump in when I see you comment and say something totally different only to get you to come up with some liberal minded comment.

There is work out there, only not what things used to be. The economy sucks, the unemployed is hovering around 8%. Which is not good but the media and this admin would like you to think this is the new normal. Do a quick search and you would find this so called recovery is the worst after any recession.
Business start ups at at and all time low and as for businesses investing thats not happening and if it is it's only because of necessity.
With this administration the risk for investment in business is too much of a risk to gamble on.

I own a landscaping company I built from nothing within the past couple of years. Last summer I was comfortable (or dumb) enough to leave my full time job that had benefits and decent pay. I'm far from bringing home six figures a year but I can pay my bills and continue to grow my business. My usual customer base is the upper middle class and commercial accounts fwiw.

I own a landscaping company I built from nothing within the past couple of years. Last summer I was comfortable (or dumb) enough to leave my full time job that had benefits and decent pay. I'm far from bringing home six figures a year but I can pay my bills and continue to grow my business. My usual customer base is the upper middle class and commercial accounts fwiw.

The great depression was a double dip separated by several years. Those who didn't loose everything during the first dip put in all chips, then lost it all in the second dip. In the end, almost nobody had a savings left.

I'm not sure what this was supposed to prove, but it's skewed because it leaves out the first 2 years of the depression, but possibly includes almost a whole year before the great rescission starts (if it is all of 2007)

It does not matter which party is in office. They are all for the Big corporations & Bankers.

If you still think party affiliation makes any difference, then you are part of﻿ the problem.

With your face 2 inches from the screen, you cannot see that they are just the opposite wings of the same vulture.

Take a few steps back and look at the bigger picture. This is textbook “divide and conquer”. While the slaves are distracted from pointing fingers and bickering back and forth about public truth, the bankers are formulating the real truth.

We will soon see what it truly means to live (and survive) in a depression.
With nearly 50 million Americans on food stamps, 100 million on welfare, and no economic progress in sight, it won’t be long before the world as we have come to know it changes drastically.
Expect riots, starvation and bloodshed. You can be 100% sure that the government is planning for exactly this scenario.
The signs, as they were before the crash of 2008, are everywhere. It’s happening right now.
In the year 2000, there were only 17 million Americans on food stamps. Today, there are more than 47 million Americans on food stamps.

* Back in the 1970s, about one out of every 50 Americans was on food stamps. Today, about one out of every 6.5 Americans is on food stamps.

* Right now, the number of Americans on food stamps exceeds the entire population of the nation of Spain.

* According to one calculation, the number of Americans on food stamps now exceeds the combined populations of “Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Utah, Vermont, West Virginia, and Wyoming.”

* At this point, more than a million public school students in the United States are homeless. This is the first time that has ever happened in our history. That number has risen by 57 percent since the 2006-2007 school year.

* According to U.S. Census data, 57 percent of all American children live in a home that is either considered to be "poor" or "low income".

* In the year 2000, the ratio of social welfare benefits to salaries and wages was approximately 21 percent. Today, the ratio of social welfare benefits to salaries and wages is approximately 35 percent.

* And not only is the middle class being systematically destroyed right now, we are also destroying the bright economic future that our children and our grandchildren were supposed to have by accumulating gigantic mountains of debt in their names.