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Will, before you poke fun at John McCain’s body, maybe you should subject your own body to five years of torture and neglect in a North Vietnamese prison – preceded, incidentally, by ejecting yourself from a burning fighter jet, breaking both arms and one leg in the process. Then we’ll see how “electable” you think your body makes you. What a disgusting thing to say about McCain, of all people. You should be ashamed.

John McCain is loathsome for many reasons (dishonesty, corruption, “anger management issues,” naivete on both foreign and domestic policy, etc.), but he gets a complete and unconditional pass from me for the condition of his body. They didn’t have a fitness center at the Hanoi Hilton.

Will is just jealous because even in his wet dreams he’ll never look even 1/4 that good. He has that deer in the headlights look that comes from riding too much public transit coupled with the combination anorexic/Value Village look that committed leftists get when they take living green too literally.

Dude, when the pork and beans in your fridge grows its own mold, it’s time to compost the sucker not eat it for the anti-biotic value of the mold to ward off whatever social disease you suffer from at the moment.

But I’ll beat that even as old as he is, John McCain could still whup your butt with energy to spare. Hell, I’ll bet Michael Jackson could whup your butt with energy to spare!

There also seems to be a legal question of whether he’s eligible to be president as he was born in a foreign country and therefore may not meet the constitutional requirement of being a “natural born citizen.”

@2 I wonder how many other pilots who ejected from burning aircraft over North Vietnam broke 3 of their 4 limbs in the process. Don’t they give Navy pilots classes on how to eject? Did McCain sleep through that class? He sure as hell didn’t know how to fly. He had to beg for a combat assignment because they assigned him to training duties after he crashed two expensive Navy jets, which is two more than most Navy pilots lose in their entire careers. Still, he was less destructive than his grandfather, who wrecked 5 planes during his flying career. The McCain family’s total score is 8 taxpayer-owned aircraft destroyed. We can’t afford to employ the McCains in the Navy; we should find paper-pushing jobs for them in some quiet bureaucracy where they can’t cause too much damage.

The main reason McCain shouldn’t be elected? Because he will have veto power. That means the Democrats will need 2/3 of the House and Senate in order to make any changes to the status quo. In other words, if you are happy with having the Republicans to continue to screw up the country the way they have for the past seven years, then elect McCain. Otherwise, elect somebody else.

The second best reason not to elect McCain is because he will continue Republican control of the Dept. of Justice, which has already been completely politicized under Bush & Rove. If you want the government to continue politically motivated prosecutions designed for maximum effect during election years, then McCain’s your man. If not, then vote for a Democrat.

The third reason not to vote for McCain is that he would continue Republican control of the appointment of Federal judges (including Supreme Court justices). As Bush & Rove showed, the primary qualification for a judge under a Republcan administration is the faithful delivery of elections to the Republican Party. If you don’t agree with that, then vote for a Democrat.

11. Roger, go back to sleep…this is a non issue brought up by people who don’t know shinnola. The official term is “citizen born abroad”, happens all the time when either the parents are abroad (but are American Citizens) or when one parent is US Citizen and the other is not (at which case it requires a registration with a US consulat or embassy within the first 2 weeks). At that point, the baby is a natural born US Citizen…which means…born as a us citizen, not born as a citizen of another nation and then naturalized. What many people seem to get stuck on is that they think the child has to be born on US Soil (oh, US military installations have in the past been considered US soil and Embassies are always considered US soil).

McCain’s birthplace is not an issue. Just imagine Obama would be 3 or 4 years older….according to your assumption, he couldn’t run either as Hawaii was not a state before 1959.

Physical appearance is the very least of any reasons not to vote for McCain.

But that didn’t stop the Republicans from bragging that Romney “looked presidential”, and making a lot of unflattering comments about Hillary Clinton’s appearance. Under those circumstances, you would think that they wouldn’t be so sensitive about getting a little of it back in return.

McCain did one heroic thing in his entire life: The enemy offered to repatriate him because his father was an admiral, but he refused to be sent home ahead of his POW buddies. Of course I admire and respect him for that, as we all should. The rest of his life has been a total clusterfuck. While he was a POW his wife was severely injured and disfigured in a car accident, and the first thing McCain did after coming home was divorce her and go romping off with a honey who happened to be the daughter of a very rich guy. It now looks like, more recently, he may have been cheating on her, too — but even if he wasn’t, he betrayed the voters he misled into thinking that he’s a different kind of politician who doesn’t hobnob with lobbyists or sell out to special interests. Turns out he’s just like the rest of them, except he lied about it and pretended to be something he’s not. There’s something about holier-than-thou preachy types who turn out to have feet of clay that provokes our visceral outrage. He would have been better off if he had kept his mouth shut instead of lying to us, and let us find out he’s just another politician with a “For Rent” sign on his office door. What I’m getting at is there’s absolutely nothing in this guy’s resume that qualifies him to be president. He’s never been governor or even a mayor, so he has no executive experience. Senators don’t write budgets or exercise oversight of federal agencies; those are House responsibilies. As a Senator, he pretty much sat around with the rest of the Senators endlessly debating legislative minutae while doing almost nothing. Like I said, we should all admire and respect McCain’s one shining heroic moment in his entire life when he decided to stay with his buddies in the POW camp, but that doesn’t qualify him to be president any more than it qualifies him to be CEO of General Motors. He doesn’t begin to have Obama’s practical experience in communiting organizing and passing legislation that establishes programs to solve practical problems in real communities. I think the GOP nomination is a fine way to honor McCain for his heroic sacrifice in the POW camp, kind of like an honorary LL.D. or Ph.D., but that’s as far as it should go. Just as you wouldn’t appoint a person with an honorary law degree to the Supreme Court, or hire a person with an honorary Ph.D. to a teaching position at Harvard University, the bestowing of this accolade on Senator McCain should be limited to its honorary function and shouldn’t turn into a job offer. His GOP nomination is suitable for framing and displaying on his office wall — and that’s all.

@16 rhp, you may think it’s cut-and-dried, but legal scholars would disagree. Nearly everyone — including me — thinks children of American citizens born abroad should be considered “natural born citizens” and be on equal footing with citizens born on U.S. soil. And I don’t think anyone in the Democratic Party wants to challenge McCain’s eligibility to run for president. But our personal feelings and opinions are irrelevant; the law controls this matter, and it’s a fact that the law in this area is unsettled and unpredictable:

“WASHINGTON (Feb. 28) – … Mr. McCain’s likely nomination as the Republican candidate for president … [is] reviving a musty debate that has surfaced periodically since the founders … declared that only a ‘natural-born citizen’ can hold the nation’s highest office.

“Almost since those words were written in 1787 with scant explanation, their precise meaning has been the stuff of confusion, law school review articles, whisper campaigns and civics class debates ….

“’There are powerful arguments that Senator McCain or anyone else in this position is constitutionally qualified, but there is certainly no precedent,’ said Sarah H. Duggin, an associate professor of law at Catholic University who has studied the issue extensively. ‘It is not a slam-dunk situation.’ …

“[McCain’s] … campaign recently asked Theodore B. Olson, a former solicitor general now advising Mr. McCain, to prepare a detailed legal analysis. ‘I don’t have much doubt about it,’ said Mr. Olson, who added, though, that he still needed to finish his research. …

“Scholars say notes of the Constitutional Convention give away little of the intent of the framers. … Ms. Duggin and others who have explored the arcane subject in depth say legal argument and basic fairness may indeed be on the side of Mr. McCain …. But multiple experts and scholarly reviews say the issue has never been definitively resolved by either Congress or the Supreme Court.

“Ms. Duggin favors a constitutional amendment to settle the matter. Others have called on Congress to guarantee that Americans born outside the national boundaries can legitimately see themselves as potential contenders for the Oval Office. …

“The conflict that could conceivably ensnare Mr. McCain goes more to the interpretation of ‘natural born’ when weighed against intent and decades of immigration law. …

“Lawyers who have examined the topic say there is not just confusion about the provision itself, but uncertainty about who would have the legal standing to challenge a candidate on such grounds, what form a challenge could take and whether it would have to wait until after the election or could be made at any time.

“In a paper written 20 years ago for the Yale Law Journal on the natural-born enigma, Jill Pryor, now a lawyer in Atlanta, said that any legal challenge to a presidential candidate born outside national boundaries would be ‘unpredictable and unsatisfactory.’

“’If I were on the Supreme Court, I would decide for John McCain,’ Ms. Pryor said in a recent interview. ‘But it is certainly not a frivolous issue.’”

Because McCain got his citizenship under a statute, not from the Constitution, and because the Supreme Court has never addressed whether statutory citizens have the same right to hold the presidential office as constitutional citizens, there is an unresolved legal issue about McCain’s eligibility.

@25 I’ll give McCain all the help I can to bring the Rapture. The sooner it gets here, the better! 144,000 Republicans gone in an instant — that can’t happen too soon for me!! It’s not enough, but it’s a start.

@21 What law school did you graduate from, son? Can I see your diploma? I don’t see your name in the lawyer directory. Unless you’re a lawyer, don’t try to teach me about law. I’ve been a lawyer for 35 years and I don’t need any help from amateurs.

@22 Unfortunately, there are plenty of people who would vote for a candidate simply because she looks like Britney Spears. That’s one of the ways we got an idiot like Bush in the Oval Office (although there were other reasons, too, e.g. Republican cheating). Although it’s not in the Constitution, we have a de facto requirement that presidents be over 6 feet tall. Have you ever noticed how the heads of presidential candidates invariably stick up when they’re working a crowd? Being a short guy disqualifies you from running. Until now, at least, so does being a minority or a woman, although we’re about to change that. However, have you noticed how — between the tall black guy and the short woman — the tall candidate is going to win the nomination and be our candidate? I’m tellin’ ya, if you want your kid to grow up to be president, you better make him tall, because if he’s a runt like Kucinich the only thing he can look forward to is marrying a babe.

That’s also why I can’t be president. If a 5’7″ progressive congressman can’t get elected, then a 2’6″ progressive rabbit hasn’t a prayer. And I don’t even have a 6′ tall reheaded babe draped over my arm — Mrs. Rabbit is even shorter than me.

But I don’t want to be president, because I’m going to be king. When you humans are extinct, rabbits will run this place, and I’ll boss them all around. And I won’t have to raise millions of dollars or win primaries or any of that bullshit. If any rabbit has a problem with me giving the orders I’ll bite, claw, kick, scratch, and head-butt him until he sees reason. I may be a runt compared to Kucinich, but I’m a damn big rabbit as rabbits go, and that’s how things work in the animal world.

The quote comes from Oliver Twist by Charles Dickens, and it appears as follows:

“If the law supposes that,” said Mr. Bumble, squeezing his hat emphatically in both hands, “the law is a ass- a idiot. If that’s the eye of the law, the law is a bachelor; and the worst I wish the law is, that his eye may be opened by experience- by experience.”

Per the Seattle Times today-
“Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz was an equal-opportunity Democrat: He gave Sen. John Edwards, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton each a donation of $2,300.”

This is why I NEVER buy a Starbucks…and enjoy the the freefall decline of Starbucks (SBUX) stock.
How will Howard explain the tens of thousands of Klowns who cannot afford Health Insurance..but can afford $4 coffee!

26 Some writer posted this over at Smirking Chimp today, and it was shot down by everyone who commented on it.

McCain was born of American parents, on an American military base, which is considered American soil.

Either we progressives have become ridiculously desperate, or the whole issue is being raised by the other side as an excuse to mount some sort of cockamamie challenge to the “natural-born” stipulation and nominate Schwartzeneggar in 2012.

Please place on this blog where someone from us whom think right where we made fun of Max Cleland and his war wounds. If and I mean if you find an idiot from our side who said it I will go on record saying it was an idiotic thing to say.

In other words, once again you got caught in a factual screw-up and, typical for you, instead of doing the honorable and manly thing by acknowledging your error and standing corrected, you evade the issue, attack the messanger, and attempt to muddy the water.

Typical effort of someone who is so morally bankrupt that he’s afraid to admit a simple mistake of fact! But we’re used to that…

GWB supposedly looked good – but he has been an unmitigated disaster. Even today he was running off at the mouth (I refuse to call what he does speaking) about how we are not going to go into a depression or recession – like he knows anything about the economy that he has ruined by spending 3 billion/day in Iraq.

When McCain lies about his involvement with a lobbying firm – that bothers me (yeah, he lied – his own deposition contradicted his excuses that he never wrote a letter to the FCC on behalf of “that female lobbyist”. I have already put the link in. either he was lying then or he is lying now – no two ways about it.

When McCain tries to illegally get arpund campaign finance laws at his convenience – laws that he co-sponsored – that bothers me.

@37: I-burn
McCain is the putative nominee for the republicans and he has been self-destructing in the last week – His image as the mverick reformer opposed to lobbyists has been shattered. He runs behind Obama by 6-9% in most national polls and ties Clinton. This was before all the crap about his lies came out – his major strength is gone – he will be dead in the water.

Ah, but many of the HA Happy Hooligans sneeringly mock John McCain’s looks and physical attributes, some of which are the result of his treatment while a POW, and the quality of his military service.

Tell me…is that worthy of commendation or condemnation? The cheap shots, the insinuation that his military service renders him unfit to be CinC, backhanded so-called “compliments” (think Rabbit), and other related tripe.

And this from the same quarter that howled like stuck pigs over quesitons about John Kerry?

Give it a rest, people! You continue with this line of attack, and all you’ll be able to do is sleep on a park bench with befuddled Hillary Clinton with only back issues of the now-discredited NY Times to cover you and keep you warm.

But I doubt that this foolishness will subside since it’s in the nature of the clueless to remain clueless.

-Then we’ll see how “electable” you think your body makes you. What a disgusting thing to say about McCain, of all people. You should be ashamed. –

Jeff and the band of screaming Reich Wingers obviously missed the point of this post.

Nice job, Will. The righties fell for it hook, line and sinker.

The entire Rovian/GOP campaign against Obama will be based on his skin color, lineage, and (supposed) religion. I believe Will was just playing around with the time-honored conservative method of demonizing “those people” who don’t look “normal.”

One way the trolls could get around this obvious conundrum: blame Obama for chosing the wrong dad (but the right mom!)

-Ah, but many of the HA Happy Hooligans sneeringly mock John McCain’s looks and physical attributes, some of which are the result of his treatment while a POW, and the quality of his military service.-

Hey, the Piper: remember the guys who REALLY sneered over McCain’s Vietnam experience? Who said McCain sold out to the commies by cracking under stress?

I actually don’t know why I’m complaining…after the truth comes out about Cheney/Bush and the Klownservative rape and pillage of the economy…it’ll be 20 years before a republican can get elected dogcatcher.

He’s not MY president, cause he’s NOT the president. Bush is an illegitimate fake, a pretender…a thief and a liar and a fraud, presiding over the most inept and corrupt administration in our country’s history.

You are a hopeless dupe if you are one of the faithful 18% who approvee of this asshole.

“In e-mails, faxes, flyers, postcards, telephone calls and talk radio, groups and individuals circulated all kinds of wild rumors about me, from the old Manchurian Candidate allegation to charges of having sired children with prostitutes,” McCain wrote in Worth the Fighting For. “There wasn’t a damn thing I could do about the subterranean assaults on my reputation except to act in a way that contradicted their libel. When things got so bad that I became discouraged by my own negative ads, we pulled them. But I spent too much of my time denouncing my opponent’s campaign tactics instead of sticking with the message that I believed in and that had worked so well in New Hampshire.”

And just in case the Pipe Dream still believes Rove’s pit bulls didn’t take a bite out of McCain’s psyche:

WILL OR SHOULD I SAY COK BREATH.ITS ASSHOLES LIKE YOU WHO GIVE THE LEFT A BAD NAME.WHY DONT YOU TELL US WHAT BRANCH OF SERVICE YOU WERE IN AND THE CIVAL AIR PATROL OR BOY SCOUTS DONT COUNT.YOU WOULD NOT MAKE A PIMPLE ON JOHN McCAINS ASS.YOU FUCKIN MAGGOT.

@55 I didn’t vote for the man, but i’m not blinded by my ideology either. On the one hand, you dims think Bush is too incompetent to wipe his own ass, but on the other, he’s managed to railroad the most extensive conspiracy in history upon the American people, without having anyone leak. Even if he was a mere puppet, who do you really think has the cachet to pull it off *and* keep it quiet?

ROGER FOR BEING A LAWYER YOU SURE ARE ONE DUMB DEMOCRAT.IF YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER ARE US CITIZENS THEN YOU ARE A US CITIZEN NO MATER WHERE YOU WERE BORN.ITS A DEAD ISSUE IF THAT WAS TRUE HE WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE TO BE A SENATOR.

Ever see the email of republican women vs. democrat women.
I would have to say the democrats have their own set of
problems. I just saw that Louis Farrahkan on the tube and
was wondering if someone were to shoot him dead would we get
another day off during the year?

Here’s a cute story from Crooks and Liars about our favorite catholic scold:

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This is the kind of hate that permeates the extreme wing of the religious right. Bill Donohue is freaking out over Hagee and McCain. Glenn Greenwald interviewed him today:

The Catholic League demanded that McCain repudiate Hagee and his endorsement, just as Barack Obama did earlier this week with Louis Farrakhan (despite the fact that Obama, unlike McCain with Hagee, never sought out or accepted Farrakhan’s endorsement) In the interview, Donohue made some extraordinary statements. He compared Hagee both to Louis Farrakhan and Bob Jones, but noted: “Hagee is far more powerful than Farrakhan is today. . . . Hagee is a major player. There’s no end to his money. He has an empire down there.” Regarding the intense 2000 media controversy when then-Gov. George Bush spoke at Bob Jones University, Donohue said:

Why were they so exercised about Bob Jones? This is worse. . . . If someone said to me: who is the biggest anti-Catholic bigot in the evangelical community, I would say: hands down, John Hagee.

The entire podcast interview, which lasted roughly 15 minutes, can be heard here.

@38 Did you even read what I posted, Art? I did NOT say challenging McCain’s eligibility is a good idea. I did NOT say he isn’t eligible to be president. I merely quoted a news story that quoted legal experts who know far more about the law on this subject than you or me, who stated there is an unsettled legal question over the eligibility of someone born to American parents outside U.S. borders and that the issue is “not frivolous.” So why are you going sideways on this? Do you think some blogger knows more about it than legal scholars who get paid to think about this stuff?

Title 8, Section 1403 of the US Code grants US Citizenship to any child born in the Panama Canal Zone who has at least one parent that’s a US citizen. Any child born on an overseas US military base to US citizen parents is considered to have been born on US soil. There’s no doubt McCain meets the eligibility standards to be elected President.
Now whether he should be elected is a whole different story.

@41 Nonresponsive and factually inaccurate. What “error” are you referring to? You attacked me for posting a news story that quoted legal experts as saying there’s a legal issue. I didn’t say they’re right or wrong, I merely posted what they said. Where is the “error?” Like I said above, you’re too fucking stupid to tell the difference between messenger and message. It isn’t my message, jackass, I merely delivered it.

The conversation ebbs back to friendly chit-chat. So, you’re a European, one of the Park Avenue ladies says, before offering witty commentaries on the cities she’s visited. Her companion adds, “I went to Paris, and it was so lovely.” Her face darkens: “But then you think – it’s surrounded by Muslims.”…

Now that this barrier has been broken – everyone agrees the Muslims are devouring the French, and everyone agrees it’s funny – the usual suspects are quickly rounded up. Jimmy Carter is “almost a traitor”…

John McCain is “crazy” because of “all that torture”.

One of the Park Avenue ladies declares that she gets on her knees every day to ” thank God for Fox News”. As the wine reaches the Floridian, he announces, “This cruise is the best money I ever spent.“

@42 “So Pelletizer you are trying to tell me: the son born to a military father on military duty in a US protectorate is NOT allowed to be the president of the US”

No, I am not telling you that, and please don’t try to put words in my mouth when you don’t know what the fuck you’re saying. You’re as stupid as crackpiper, and your reading comprehension is no better than his, either.

For the umpteenth time, I merely quoted a news story that quoted legal experts who know what they’re talking about as saying that it’s unclear whether McCain is eligible to be president or not. That’s not my opinion; that’s their opinion. And they did NOT express an opinion that he’s ineligible. What they did do is provide a technical explanation of the legal problem that neither you nor Piper are capable of understanding. I’m glad he’s not a lawyer anymore, because he lacks a fundamental legal skill: Knowing when a legal issue exists. You have a better excuse than he does; you were never a lawyer in the first place, so you’re expected to be incompetent in legal matters. Piper can’t get off that easy because he’s supposed to know better. It appears that someone, somewhere, wasted three years of legal education on him that could have been better used by someone with more cognitive capacity than he has.

You, in your snarky condescending way, attributed a quote to Mr. Magoo, which is totally inaccurate. The quote was from Charles Dickens and comes out of the mouth of his character, Mr. Bumble, in Oliver Twist.

@45 “McCain is the putative nominee for the republicans and he has been self-destructing in the last week”

Not really. McCain has been self-destructing all his life, and that’s only consistent theme in his life story. The lobbyist scandal is in character, not out of character, for him; it’s consistent with everything else he’s done over the years. The only thing that has changed is that now he’s the GOP putative nominee he’s getting more scrutiny and the media considers his antics newsworthy. Before, they weren’t worth reporting because he didn’t have any real responsibilities to the country.

“They got little hands
And little eyes
And they walk around
Tellin’ great big lies
They got little noses
And tiny little teeth
They wear platform shoes
On their nasty little feet” from ‘Short People’ by Randy Newman

Good observation, Will. I’m from AZ and I can tell you that McCain would laugh his ass off at this little joke. On his first run for the Senate (and this was in the Gazette and the Republic) he was heard to refer to a retirement villa named ‘Leisure World’ as ‘Seizure World’. Alot of mock outrage over that little comment, but, as McCain himself would say: “Fuck ‘em if they can’t take a joke — and dry fuck Piper Scott in his rectum with a sandpaper dildo.”

What I’m seeing in this thread is several people (on both sides) reacting emotionally to a technical legal issue. Of course, this happens every day to judges and lawyers, and once you understand that lawyers spend far more time trying to get past people’s emotional walls than they do on legal research or writing briefs, you may begin to understand why lawyers are worth every penny of what they earn. The job of being a lawyer is 90% dealing with human nature and only 10% practicing law, and the human nature they have to deal with is 98.5% bullshit and only 1.5% intellectual functioning. This is a technical legal issue, dopes! It has nothing and I do mean NOT A FUCKING GODDAMN THING to do with how you emotionally feel about children of military personnel. It’s about what the law is, and all I’m saying is, the best qualified legal scholars in the country to comment on this subject are saying, “There’s a serious issue there, and nobody knows what the law is, because there are no binding interpretations.”

Some people here can’t understand plain English no matter how many times I repeat the same thing which leads me to wonder whether their cognitive reasoning is impaired. Of course, in the case of pudwhacker and crackpiper, I don’t have to wonder; I already know that.

@48 I’m curious about something, piper. How come you aren’t criticizing McCain for cooperating with the enemy and signing a “confession” he knew would be used for propaganda purposes? He did, you know. He took more of a beating than Jane Fonda, but at the end of the day, he did about the same thing she did.

DOGBERRY
Dost thou not suspect my place? dost thou not
suspect my years? O that he were here to write me
down an ass! But, masters, remember that I am an
ass; though it be not written down, yet forget not
that I am an ass. No, thou villain, thou art full of
piety, as shall be proved upon thee by good witness.
I am a wise fellow, and, which is more, an officer,
and, which is more, a householder, and, which is
more, as pretty a piece of flesh as any is in
Messina, and one that knows the law, go to; and a
rich fellow enough, go to; and a fellow that hath
had losses, and one that hath two gowns and every
thing handsome about him. Bring him away. O that
I had been writ down an ass!

I wouldn’t doubt that at some point Mr. Magoo stole it again from Dickens.

@69 Are you a lawyer? Do you know what you’re talking about? I don’t know the answer to my first question, but I do know the answer to my second question. Since the eligibility criteria for being president are set forth in the Constitution, and you can’t add to or change the Constitution with a statute, 8 USC Sec. 1403 can’t make someone eligible to be president. In lawyerspeak, the Constitution “controls.” Or, to put it another way, the statute is superseded by the Constitution. But then, that raises the question of whether a statute can be used to clarify what an unclear or ambiguous provision of the Constitution means. Undoubtedly, there’s a body of legal thinking and caselaw on that subject, too.

so… another batch of pointless irrelevant arguments between idiots. wow, this blog is really cutting edge. maybe roger and pudbutt and pippi need to move in together so the rest of us don’t have to read dozens of irrelevant schoolyard arguments and the pointlessly longwinded longwinded rebuttals every night just to try and follow a discussion. they belong together, and hopefully somewhere other than here. roger you are every bit as much of an idiot as your buddies, as a quick look through your thousands of posts here makes clear. thanks for all the worthless spam fellas! now please go away so that the grownups can talk, and take your little friend PU with yas. cheers!

@91 So it turns out Dickens plagiarized it from Shakespeare? And some reputable people speculate that some or all of Shakespeare’s stuff was ghost-written! Trying to figure out who said it first is like trying to identify the inventor of the wheel. The wheel was invented many times, because it’s obvious. Likewise, I have no doubt that countless people began saying “the law is an ass” very soon after law came into existence because that, too, is obvious. As crackpiper is supposed to know, the convention among lawyers is to cite the most recent case, not the original case. The fact Magoo repeated what Dickens said who in turn repeated what Shakespeare said who in turn merely stated the obvious simply confirms the continuing vitality of Magoo’s/Dickens’/Shakespeare’s/unknown’s observation.

@98 Reading the comments on this blog is a voluntary activity. A cogent argument can be made that the people who insist on reading them are no smarter than the people who insist on posting them. If you don’t know how to use the scroll key on your computer, ask a kid to show you.

Republicans with an AGI of at least $364,657, the
top 1 percent of republicans, accounted for 21.2 percent
of AGI for 2005. This represents an increase
in income share of 2.2 percentage points from the
previous year. These republicans accounted for 39.4
percent of the total income tax reported, an increase
from 36.9 percent in 2004. The top 5 percent of republicans
accounted for 35.7 percent of AGI and 59.7
percent of total income tax. To be included in the top
5 percent, a republican must have reported an AGI of at
least $145,283, whereas, in 2004, the cutoff for this
group was $137,056.

Do you think Cheney actually hands him the wipe? Sadly, all of us can picture GW on the throne looking up with those lost eyes to a sneering Dick Cheney, beseeching him, “please, oh please, Mr. Cheney, can I have another square of wipe?”

Yea Will, you cold-hearted bastard. That was pretty crude. Your basic thesis, however, is that lots of Americans are shallow enough to base their vote on appearances. And by gosh, you’re prolly right. Sadly.

Don’t make fun of McCcain’s genetically truncated limbs, because that would be somehow smearing his “honorable” service, even though he chose to sit in an NVA prison rather than help his buddies fight the fucking useless war of imperialism that Republicans now defend.

But DO make fun of John Kerry’s service and claim that the Silver Star, Bronze Star, and three Purple Hearts earned saving his fellow sldiers in combat are fraudulent and worthless.

Also, if the law regarding McCain’s citizenship status proves inconvenient, ignore the law.

This is why Republicans are not fit to run this country. We’ve seen it all for the last twenty years, and have a fucking bellyful in the last eight.

Dear Hillary,
If you sue to contest the caucus rules in Texas, if you cannot win without cheating and breaking the rules in Florida and Michigan, then you are as evil as the Republicans have been saying all along. If you become the nominee through corrupt means, I will not reward you with my vote and will vote for McCain and damn the consequences. I am aware of what that may do to the country to leave a Republican in change of the Presidency.

Will’s just mad that McCain at 72 is getting better trim than Will banging away at his keyboard in his Mom’s basement will ever see live and in person. Luckily for Will, in this day and age of technology, a few websites and an economy sized jar of vaseline gets him through the lonely nights just fine.

Where in the U.S. Constitution does it define citizenship? It’s not exactly like the difference between Article III original federal court jurisdiction and statutory jurisdiction, is it?

The only reference I found, other than the provision that defines the requirements for President, is in the 14th Amendment, Article XIV, Sec. 1, which states (in part):

“Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside….”

In United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), the court held that a son of Chinese immigrants who was born on U.S. soil could not be denied citizenship by statute. In deciding the issue, the court went back to English common law to determine the meaning of citizenship.

Of course, that leaves open the question of what “in the United States” means. Does it include territories of the United States which are not states? If not, then Barry Goldwater was also ineligible to be President; he was born in Arizona before it became a state. (I would have to check some other 19th century presidents & presidential candidates to see if they, too, might have been disqualified).

Also, is “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” a clause of limitation to the phrase preceeding it, or an expansive phrase, adding an additional basis for citizenship? If the latter applies, then a child of U.S. citizens born abroad would probably be “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” (in rem)?

The question then begs, why not have a side by side picture posting comparison of Will’s wife next to McCain’s wife? As long as we’re getting into the down and dirty side of it, why not take it to the next logical conclusion Will? What say you?

@11,121 I was having an email exchange with a conservative friend. In the same email where he felt that it was silly to claim that John McCain was not legally able to run for Prez because he was not born here, he said:

I personally would like to see an amendment to the effect that, even if you’re born here, you are not automatically a citizen if neither of your parents are. That seems more logical, and gets rid of the motivation for “anchor babies”.

Seems like a double standard. McCain is an American, even though he’s not born here, but kids born to illegals on American soil are not.

I will not feed the trolls …. however I don’t really care what the guy looks like, the main reason I’m not going to vote for him is because of his inability to take a position. It was messed up I saw a video of him on youtube, 1 minute he’s saying he supports gay marriage, and 10 minutes later he says he’s against it. Come on make a stand 1 way or the other, and stick to it. At least try to keep the same position for a day before changing it.

This is exactly the kind of thing your former dimbulb friends can not nderstand. Appearances, appearance, appearabces. Ronny Reagan was ahero because he looked and sounded like one. Standing on the Berlin Wall he did what no other President could do .. he blew the damn thing down!

Calling John McCacca a war hero just because he says he was mistreated in a Hilton Hotel in Hanoi?? Pffffffghhh! Does he look mistreated????

Hillberry too … look at them short stubby legs! Wannabet we will NEVER see her in a bathing suit? You know what SHE would do if the phone rang at 3 AM? “Billllll … can you get it???”

And then there is the Obiwan character. I hear he is planning to govern using the force and has plans to bring Kucinich into the cabinet as Yoda in chief!

Where are John Wayne, Ronald Reagan, Alfred Newman, Abe Lincoln, when we need a manly President???

And the “wives!” Hillberry’s wife looks more like Bill Clinton than can make her comfortable. Huckleberry has Ma Kettle at his side. McCacca’s wife looks well preserved .. ready for the funeral processedings. The only one who lloks like a woman is Michelle Obama but how will they ntell her from ne of the servants if she is “first lady?”

I think we need to start this election all over again, at least in WAstate we have a real man running for governor.

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