If I'm paying 1200 for a frameset, I'm supporting the locals.... Cramerotti, Cervelo, etc. Marinoni's are burned into my brain from riding in MTL in the 80's you couldn't throw a rock without hitting one of those. I'll never buy one. Keith...check you mail....tell if it was too big an attachment.

Is there a web link for the road rules here in Toronto, was buzzed by van on the way in. SO I got up to his window at the light, and we head the "discussion" as to weither I was allowed to take the lane or not. Since the riding officer told me I was allowed I now need to print the actual road rules so that I may hand it to drivers' that claim "I know the law" as justification for getting 6 inches from my elbow as I ride in the middle of the curb lane.

Near as I can tell, that was: Aggressive/careless driving, reckless endangerment, straddling (driving both lanes), illegal lane changes (no signals).
For a grand total of hand me your keys you putz. I am grateful that is was a non-screaming discussion, quite civil in fact but he was completely wrong while claiming "he KNEW the law". I'm kinda liking this taking of the lane thing. God, how fun would it be to be a police officer riding to "the house" and taking the lane during rush hour, and getting to deal with these knuckleheads. "Why yes, sir in fact I AM allowed to take this lane and if you would be so kind to pull over I'll call you a ride." *flashes badge*

I almost bought a P2T frameset ... then I realized how ridiculous that would be (ie. I'm not worthy). It's understandable about your Marinoni thing but I'm still at the stage where I get a smile on my face everytime one comes into the shop. Does anyone know if Winterbourne has a site? I wouldn't mind checking out some more of their work.

I almost bought a P2T frameset ... then I realized how ridiculous that would be (ie. I'm not worthy). It's understandable about your Marinoni thing but I'm still at the stage where I get a smile on my face everytime one comes into the shop. Does anyone know if Winterbourne has a site? I wouldn't mind checking out some more of their work.

No....if you don't have something ultra thin....think consistency of ketchup....then go with oil. I like the thin grease method cause I think it lasts longer and mutes the crazy loud freehub noise that is Campy. I use Campy on my Cross racing bike and like to be a little stealthy.

I don't know where you guys are getting the pricing for the Giant track frame, but I got it out of their dealer catalog. Shouldn't be more than $800 for frame and carbon fork. Not too bad if you ask me.

I don't know where you guys are getting the pricing for the Giant track frame, but I got it out of their dealer catalog. Shouldn't be more than $800 for frame and carbon fork. Not too bad if you ask me.