>>122081520I didn't insist. If he'd read the manga, he'd realize that Onodera literally doesn't do a fucking thing, while the Gorilla becomes a better version of Onodoormat.>>122081537Ruri is, I think.

>>122081574Thought I should clarify that I'm not ranking the girls in my post.>>122081660>How can people not root for Onodera after this scene?If he wasn't an animeonly-fag, he'd realize why nobody cares about her. His question is centered around an understanding of the character.

>>122081714OP's question is "Why doesn't everyone care about her?", not "Why does no one care about her?". I'm not even sure how you could misread it, bias or not. There are anime-only gorillafags, so his question stands. Watch your blood pressure.

>>122081829>How can people not root for Onodera to win after this scene?To which I would answer "She's the most boring and generic in a disgustingly boring and generic series, and she only gets worse as the manga progresses">>122081860Hers change in size pretty randomly, so I just put them as equal seeing how they're the two biggest.

>>122081711>blandwhen did sweetness and purity become "bland?" tsundere is such a laughably otaku choice because it's the personality type that bludgeons the insecure, beta MC with an aggressive pursuit that effectively allows the guy to become the girl (i.e. the pursued in lieu of the pursuer)

>>122082033But she's exaggerated to be as boring as possible, that's the thing. Megumi is actually a character, Kosaki's entire reason for existing is "look she's a cardboard cutout that I can mold into whatever I want in my head!">>122082105I think her mom also qualifies.

>>122082646>entire story is centered around Chitoge>lol it's just a plot deviceI don't like her either, but don't be stupid.>>122082678She does, but that's irrelevant to my post. I specifically said that I wasn't ranking them.

>>122082678Did you not read the manga? She has a lot of relevance and development for being a side character.>>122082837I'd assume it has something to do with betas wanting control over a girl. Actually, people have been saying that for years.

>>122083016Don't bring 3DPD /pol/ shit in here, this has nothing to do with those disgusting freaks. It's more like the anon above you said, that people assume that if the submissive girl is your favorite you're a beta bitch who wants to feel cool.

It's irrelevant at the end of the day, because 2D is perfection in all it's forms.

>>122083081Which part of the alpha/beta contrast wasn't already dumb /pol9k/ shit? Which part of my post said people don't assume that? The point of my post is that regardless of how deluded people are, it's not a thing. Masculine men seek feminine women. Alpha males want a mate to bring along on their ride, beta males seek a mate to spice up their lives.

>>122083143That implies that anyone who doesn't like Onodera is a beta, though. All of the other girls show plenty of femininity, Onodera is just the only one who's entire archetype is that.>>122083170Threadly reminder that I don't think you idiots understand how polls work, and one autistic nip buying hundreds of copies of Jump doesn't mean that Marika was the most popular. The polls are bullshit, and above all, unimportant. They mean nothing, and don't dictate the story.

>>122083232There isn't a single implication in either of my posts. It's a direct response to someone asking why people thinking like a feminine girl is beta, explaining that it isn't. Anything you're reading between the lines is your own projected insecurity.

>>122083285>Anything you're reading between the lines is your own projected insecurity.Phew, that's a relief.

I don't think anyone was saying it WAS beta to like feminine girls, just that more often than not betas are attracted to them because they seem easy to mold.>>122083314At least we can all agree that no one wins ending up with a faggot like Raku.

>>122083365>At least we can all agree that no one wins ending up with a faggot like Raku.I just can't get used to the "winning" and "losing" shipping shit that neo/a/ brought, porbably straight out from MAL forums now that 99% of the userbase has changed, but sure.

>>122083365It doesn't matter if people are saying it's exclusively a beta tendency or usually a beta tendency, the issue is that people feel free to accuse others of being beta for it. There is nothing wrong with wanting to mold things in your image in the first place, that's what leaders do.

>>122083460>neo /a/Stop, it was always like this. >>122083476Yeah, of course. I totally agree. I don't think I'm articulating my thoughts properly, but I personally see most of it as "I'm bitter about girls so I want one that will do whatever I say". I think it's just the way I look at it, but I start to see some truth in it when people like Kevin-kun post.

>>122083559ever since toradora turned the genre on its head by having multiple best girls and making the worst girl win we have to put our energy into supporting the best girls who are doomed from the start.

>>122083586Of course there's a difference, but the entire board is different to some degree. People were fighting over what girl would "win" in like 2007. Though, I absolutely fucking hate this "X Bowl" shit. I can agree with you 100% on that.

>>122083628Collectively hating an ending doesn't equal shipping wars. I don't recall seeing the same kind of shit flinging back then. It was common to call a girl a bitch when she started getting too aggresive on screen for some reason or started fucking things up but this kind of fanbase war wasn't present.

>>122083828Admittedly I used to frequent slice of life threads more than anything and classic harem threads, not of the ones airing at the time, were peaceful. But just going from the front page alone back then and now, it has no doubt become much more aggressive and divisive.

>>122083950I'll tell you why you're noticing it now. Back then all the hate was pretty one sided directed toward characters with nonsensical violent outbursts, like Nina from Code Geass, or violent tsunderes, like Houki or Kirino right after. These days the shit gets tossed randomly everywhere.

>>122083950>classic harem threads, not of the ones airing at the timeOh boy. Yeah, that explains it. It's always been pretty vitriolic. You don't really get that in shows that have ended, except for the occasional anon who's still butthurt over the ending.

I don't really think it's gotten that much worse. It really has always been divided in terms of favorite girls.

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