Wow... I'm awesome.
I did not recall that email. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thank you.
Day just got brighter... and I believe I hear birds singing.
Hell yes.
-Matt
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 04:06:42PM -0800, Matt Joyce wrote:
>> As a male I'd like to suggest that we males are concerned as well
>> about our own safety in the presence of uncaring feminists who
>> ridicule us and place us at the forefront of some form of conspiracy
>> to place women in kitchens.
>>>> Yes, yes, you said this last time, along with the stuff about crack
> babies and fried chicken.
>>http://hackerspaces-general-discussion-list.899408.n3.nabble.com/hackerspaces-An-interesting-point-of-view-On-Feminism-and-Microcontrollers-tp1619176p1621501.html>> $5 dollars, dude. Actually, $2.50, because this is really just
> entry-level trolling and we should have a cross-hackerspace discount for
> this stuff...
>> MOVING RIGHT ALONG
>>> I am quite frankly distraught over the shear volume of passive
>> aggressive assaults on my gender on this list and in society today in
>> general.
>>>> Quite frankly I don't give a damn about your genitals people. If you
>> want to run around judging people because of their genitals that's on
>> you. But please don't lump me into some sort of ridiculous conspiracy
>> to join you in your judging just because my dangle has a measurable
>> angle.
>>>> Gender equality starts with ending feminism.
>>>> Let my people go!
>>>> -Matt
>>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:
>> > I'm not going to entertain everyone tweedling you into atoms until you
>> > put $5 into the drama meter, Peter. Noisebridge gots to pay that
>> > feminazi-geld somehow!
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 02:58:19PM -0800, Peter Werner wrote:
>> >> Danny O'Brien wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I'm not sure you actually realise how large of an intersection there is
>> >> between the people who organize and speak at Arse Electronica and those who
>> >> developed the (templated) suggestions for the anti-harrasment policy.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Well then, I guess they have a rather large contradiction on their hands, don't
>> >> they?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Obviously, it'd be far easier for the outrage if they were carefully
>> >> arranged on two sides of some gaping cultural divide, but actually you can
>> >> be simultaneously for developing reasonable anti-harassment policies *and*
>> >> sex positivity *and* freedom of speech.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Might be. Pity the Geek Feminist policy template does such an utterly piss-poor
>> >> job of it. And small clue here, calling for a ban on a ban on a very broad
>> >> category of imagery as default policy and then demanding adoption of that
>> >> policy at practically all public spaces raises fucking huge free speech issues.
>> >> Oh, and "we're sex positive/anarchists/feminsts/whatever, therefore we can't be
>> >> censors" sets off my bullshit detector big time.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> It'd be pretty easy to knock out an anti-harassment variant for Arse or an
>> >> all-night hummus fucking party; those square brackets are there for a
>> >> reason. Probably a slightly better reason than your use of scare quotes
>> >> around a group of people you interact with on a regular basis.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Oh dear, somebody's quite butthurt now, aren't they? Look, I interact with
>> >> people who I think have damn fool ideas all the time. And as long as they're
>> >> not imposing their perspective on me or vice versa, there's not a problem.
>> >> People demanding their pet ideologies gain the force of a rule I have to abide
>> >> by is another matter, and I will speak up about it.
>> >>
>> >> Peter
>> >>
>> >
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