I'm going to reserve the right to amend this after the transfer window closes, but as things stand today:

Top 4 - 1) Chelsea, 2) Spurs, 3) City, 4) United, + 5) Liverpool, 6) ArsenalBottom 3 - the 3 that came up (lame, I know, but I know nothing about any of them. Of last season's survivors I'd pick Hughes to help take Stoke to go down.

Dawgs0 wrote:Why do people think United will drop off so much? I don't see it. They may drop off somewhat, with the new manager, but 3rd/4th or even out of the top 4? Seems laughable to me.

IMO, they will be real contenders for the title. 1st or 2nd.

Because Moyes is not Ferguson and there will be a period of adjustment. Will the players respect the new manager? It's not easy replacing arguably one of the worlds best ever managers. Many thought Ferguson got the best out of a Utd side that needs money spent on it. Giggs, Scholes need replaced, Rooney looks unsettled. Ferdinand looks past it, Vidic injury prone.

Mourinho and Pellegrini are good managers who have signed some good players so are expected to win.

I said third. If third is good enough for the fans (who have been spoiled with success the last 20 years) then I think he will do better next year with new signings and his own players, however Arsenal have a nack of getting in the top 3/4 no matter the players they sign.

Dawgs0 wrote:Why do people think United will drop off so much? I don't see it. They may drop off somewhat, with the new manager, but 3rd/4th or even out of the top 4? Seems laughable to me.

IMO, they will be real contenders for the title. 1st or 2nd.

Don't be silly. Ferguson is/was the best manager of the modern era. That squad is a load of old shite now, except for RVP. the midfield is a shambles, the defense is old and injury-prone. Rooney doesn't want to be there. The way the British sports media works, they'll be hounding EVERYTHING Moyes does. When the results start to go sour, they'll be all over him, and so will all the plastic fans, calling for Ferguson to come back.

United will have a tough time staying in the top 4 this season.

Football is not a matter of life and death. It's much more important than that. ~ Bill Shankley

peachesenregalia wrote:So....Thisisanfield.com are saying that Suarez has told Uruguayan reporters that he will be staying at Liverpool and signing a new contract.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..................

So... we're to believe a Liverpool site that appears to have zero connection with the club other than being an independent supporters site and a random reporter. I still think he'll be gone by the transfer deadline, I did hear that the German version of caughtoffside(we all know how reliable those bozos are) is claiming that Bayern Munich are reviving their interest in Suarez.

Suarez will either stay or go to Madrid. Most likely the former. If Liverpool can get William or someone similar and hold on to Suarez they will be very, very good. If they sell Suarez to Arsenal it will really boost Arsenal and hurt Liverpool's chance of CL qualification. There is a 0% chance it's going to happen.

peachesenregalia wrote:So....Thisisanfield.com are saying that Suarez has told Uruguayan reporters that he will be staying at Liverpool and signing a new contract.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..................

So... we're to believe a Liverpool site that appears to have zero connection with the club other than being an independent supporters site and a random reporter. I still think he'll be gone by the transfer deadline, I did hear that the German version of caughtoffside(we all know how reliable those bozos are) is claiming that Bayern Munich are reviving their interest in Suarez.

Oh Gate. How Arsenals window going? Sign anyone yet?

You would believe the same Uruguayan press that started the whole saga. Not that random. Either way its the backtracking we all expected...He wants to stay because of fan support (his words.... Oh the irony) and may sign a new contract (which in sure this time would actually contain a release clause)

Okay let me raise you one reliable Japan media outlet and the BBC are reporting that Suarez has denied those other reports.

Ok....when you say 'the BBC', are you meaning the actual BBC or that stupid twitter account you linked me to that time? Because the two are very different. Suarez definitely said he's staying, now Kolo Toure has come out and talked about what a lift it is for the other players.

Arsenal's persuit of Suarez is over. I imagine he WILL sign a new contract, this time with a proper release clause in it.

Football is not a matter of life and death. It's much more important than that. ~ Bill Shankley

Okay let me raise you one reliable Japan media outlet and the BBC are reporting that Suarez has denied those other reports.

Ok....when you say 'the BBC', are you meaning the actual BBC or that stupid twitter account you linked me to that time? Because the two are very different. Suarez definitely said he's staying, now Kolo Toure has come out and talked about what a lift it is for the other players.

Arsenal's persuit of Suarez is over. I imagine he WILL sign a new contract, this time with a proper release clause in it.

peachesenregalia wrote:So....basically that says "Even though the Uruguayan newspaper says Suarez has said he will stay, he hasnt told the club yet". Nowhere in that article does it say Suarez denies the reports.

peachesenregalia wrote:The facts remain, Gate, that Suarez is still a Liverpool player, and that Arse-nal have signed no-one this window.

Thank you captain obvious. Honestly, I'm convinced Arsenal do have money and want to spend it, the problem this time is nobody wants to sell their players to Arsenal. The reasons going through my mind is A) a slight fear that selling anyone decent to Arsenal could cause the Gunners to become a true powerhouse again, and B) Those same clubs want to leave Arsenal with that paper thin squad they've got due to the clear out.

I highly doubt Arsenal are just gonna not sign anyone by September 2nd, doing that would be just as crazy as selling a key player after that massive clearing the Gunners did over the past month and a half or so. I feel Arsenal can challenge for a trophy easily this year with how impressive they've been in the preseason, but they have to make some signing(screw weather the player signed are World Class or not) otherwise that depth is just gonna be insanely poor, worse if injuries start popping up in those thin areas.

MANUNITED23 wrote:Meanwhile, Mikel Arteta looks to be 6 weeks out. That's a big blow for Arsenal if you ask me.

Arteta is very underrated, I agree completely that is a huge shot in the gut of their midfield.

For me to call the league is too early. I wish the transfer window would end before the start of the season, so they could be in training for a month. It should end at the start of August, but whatever. Arsenal has really dropped the ball this window and better scramble to pick up some players soon, not that I really care I'm not a supporter, but I do wish them luck.