Ferrari 458 Italia in Gran Turismo 5, Forza 3

Ferrari’s latest creation, the 458 Italia, is featured in the latest Gran Turismo 5 video, just released a few hours ago. You’ll see some very beautiful footage, along with our first look at some currently unkown road course. To spice things up, Ferrari appears to have commissioned this video by both Polyphony Digital and Turn 10 (Forza’s producers), and has released both company’s clips at the same time. It’s inevitable that comparisons will be made – judge for yourself and take a look at Forza 3’s video after the jump…

For the best quality, you can download the GT5 clip here (right click, “save as”, .mov, 134 MB). The song is also available as an MP3 download.

I have not played forza (I don’t argue it is probably a great game) , but visually GT5 looks more real-life than it’s competitor-not only the lightning but also the proportions of the car forza is more toy-ish anyway gt5 vid is HD and forza’s SD but… I don’t believe that ANY driving-sim game will ever gonna beat GT, PD’s game is a class on it’s own.

P.S.We’ve been waiting for this game (GT5) for 3 years now, finally it’s here! I can’t believe it!

Sep. 22, 4:53pm

Jack

what a masterpiece.

Sep. 22, 4:41pm

Billou

This is in-engine.

Sep. 22, 4:41pm

horris2

I think The first part of the GT video is definantely CGI. and both do not have any realtime gameplay. The videos look great though and get me pumped of for…..

Sep. 22, 4:31pm

Loxstokk

Looking at this video again I wouldnt be so sure that the GT5 is all prerendered perfection…

Check out 1m26s. Definate treeline ‘pop-up’ going on in the distance..

PDs video is eerily realistic…GT5, its almost here, are you ready? (o___0)

Sep. 22, 4:11pm

Hellseek

I find the model looks different between the two games. the forza model looks a bit cheap. example: the light fixtures.

Sep. 22, 3:59pm

alaM0000

cobraagent90 Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm

What’s the track on 1:41 (GT5 video)

Nurburgring

Sep. 22, 3:58pm

Ngrignon

“As usual PD has the visual edge, they have that photographic vision skill, and they can materialize it in game at all levels. Everything is coherent. Amazing, i think some of the graphists at PD are just gifted, and no one can compete with them on that particular aspect.
Can’t wait to see more at TGS.”

If only there were ALSO gifted for all the other part of the game which su-ks like AI or the arcade gameplay of the first part of the game. (1/3 lap to pass 15 stupid Ridgeracer-like AI with (at the moment) cosmetic damages)

Sep. 22, 3:56pm

Chrysus

Polyphony are so much better at this sort of thing.

Sep. 22, 3:53pm

xanavi

Forza3 and gt5 are both 1080p and 60frames per second. That,s what both the developpers said. Gt5 50gig and blu-ray. Forza3 9.8gig and dvd. Afcourse gt5 is better dan forza. You can make a big deal about it, or you can shut the fuck up. Look at the difference. Duuuuh. Thy are both greate games, and that,s that.

Sep. 22, 3:48pm

HighEagle

The GT5 video is pre rendered typical of PD, just like any intro movie to the previous GT games.

The FM3 video is a true replay from ingame footage.

Both games will be amazing, though I fear GT5 will still feel wooden, with A.I who still follow the same line each lap.

The Forza Franchise as always had the edge on how “real” the cars feel to drive.

Sep. 22, 3:39pm

Alex

The track isnt the Ascari Race Resort is it?

Sep. 22, 3:38pm

MvE

I’ve seen this car today in Frankfurt at the IAA… it looks amazing! Can’t wait to drive it in GT5!

Sep. 22, 3:37pm

Tora_2097

Leaving the technical aspect pretty much aside I think what strikes me the most in the PD version is that I get the feeling of watching a piece of art. The Forza trailer is also catching but it feels just like a videotrailer to me.
It was kind of moving together with the superb music and the sublime honoring of the masterful craftsmanship for both the real car and the digital version.
Just stunning.

Sep. 22, 3:33pm

Magicalgin

At first I thought they were using IRL video for the gt5 preview

Sep. 22, 3:32pm

yanfloist

When it comes to the car’s graphics alone, there’s not other game that can beat Gran Turismo. Forza’s cars look like they could pop like a balloon if they were pokes with a needle. Forza seems to be very arcade-like and they over did the skid markings. PD’s environment looks great too in the video. The song in the video is great! I like it very much, it would be very nice to drive to that song in the game.

Sep. 22, 3:25pm

petalpusher

As usual PD has the visual edge, they have that photographic vision skill, and they can materialize it in game at all levels. Everything is coherent. Amazing, i think some of the graphists at PD are just gifted, and no one can compete with them on that particular aspect.
Can’t wait to see more at TGS.

Sep. 22, 3:20pm

James

Forza looks good, but GT5 looks better. PD’s version has more atmosphere. Better music too..

Sep. 22, 3:18pm

Sam__ NY

WOW, those graphics looked better than prologue! PD always goes the extra mile when it comes to making a car look photo realistic. Good job PD.

The difference between the fm3 video and the GT5 video… 3 years. and it shows

forza cars are still plastic.

Sep. 22, 3:09pm

smuge

OMG. When i see that front led row details i always sh*t brick. A.M.A.Z.I.N.G!

Sep. 22, 3:09pm

Qusso

I’m trying not to be a GT5 fanboy , but I must confess that enviromant and tracks in F3 looks better for me / more real , less “cartoon” and not so “clear” as GT5 but this movie clearly shows that gt5 is smoething more tha na game . This is real experience , no matter of how F3 fans will shout , gt5’s movie of Italia totaly owned , car models are also made better . Anyway both of those games gonna be the best in kind on all platforms .

Sep. 22, 3:04pm

alaM0000

Oh SNAP!!!!! Awsome!!!!! Can’t Wait!!!!!!!!! :P

Sep. 22, 3:03pm

jamaicangamer

onlly 2 dayss till tgs….

Sep. 22, 2:59pm

Turbohaggis

That clip is the mutts nuts……go PD!

Sep. 22, 2:53pm

Franz

Awesome! Now give us the MP4-12C please….

PD really did a great job on the video, much classy than the California one. I hope the Ferrari’s lineup in GT5 will be as good as FM3. Specially we need more legendary classic cars like 250TR.

Sep. 22, 2:52pm

Jack_uk

GT5 & 458 italia = :D
Especially the 458 italia part

Sep. 22, 2:38pm

The Masfer

Forza is unrealistic it has the 458 italia overtaking a enzo on a straight. It will take it onthe bends but never on the straights.
The 458 is fast but not that fast.

I’m not sure, but the desert circuit looks like Willow Springs, recently featured on Need for Speed Shift. It´s an interesting circuit with ups and downs and a low infrastructure, I mean no guard rail and other things.

The GT5 Ferrari 458 Italia looks so much more realistic than the Forza 3 version. The car model, the lighting and the physics look spot-on in the GT5 video – not so much in the FM3 video.

Also, where is the water in the GT5 video? Is it on the ground during the opening?

Sep. 22, 2:02pm

Vivian

I´m so horny right now!!!! I really can´t wait to drive!!!!! GT5 is pure PORN!

Sep. 22, 2:01pm

icant55

@ Ralph89,
the “String” and the “Ring” are my favorite oh cant forget La sarthe, you get h chance to see all of what a car has… flat out in corners etc… $h!t imagine the 458,lp560,r8 v10,sls racing on the “ring” @ dawn in foggy weather….. MOFO CRAZY!!!!!

Sep. 22, 1:58pm

Brettjr25

Oh and btw the car looked zillion times better in GT5 but F3 tracks looked a lot less dull and better graphically.

Sep. 22, 1:57pm

Brettjr25

Heh, you know who the real winner is Ferrari lol! Smart idea commissioning these; I’m not desperately desiring to race in some Ferraris….I think I’ll pick up Ferrari challenge XD

Sep. 22, 1:54pm

ralph89

@icant55

I hope it’s Complex String! It’s one of the best race track that PD ever created, next to Special Stage 11 of course.

Sep. 22, 1:53pm

GON

GT 5 LOOOOOOOOKS REAL and the video edition is better . GT5 tribute is a true POWER
…. i have a orgasm . i need gt5 this year

I have forza 2 and gt5p , and I have to say gt is better in graphics , forza fails in showing real car headlights you can check it here also !! , but non the less they are both great games .

Sep. 22, 1:41pm

icant55

^^^ GT5(left that out)

Sep. 22, 1:40pm

GT VIRUS

does anyone know the song used in the GT5 video?

Sep. 22, 1:40pm

icant55

^^^ WAIT!!!!!! Living with two rich bisexual twin sisters that don’t like clothes… And i would still have to have a copy of ( dont know if i would playing it but i would have a copy!!!)LMAO. I couldnt say the same for forza.

Sep. 22, 1:40pm

Monkeyherow

Wow. The shot of the Ferrari taking off from pit lane with the shakey cam (1:09) is sooo real looking. Polyphony has always been able to render cars better than anyone else.

Sep. 22, 1:39pm

TW82

Another interesting GT5 fact. The video shows more than one time the windscreen wiper in full detail. There is also water.
Could it be that we will have to use this wiper, after all?
Let’s keep fingers crossed we will see rain!

Sep. 22, 1:38pm

DRIVERm3

If you notice, GT5 did each individual LED light for the tail lights, while Forza is just a red light which doesn’t look to be LED lighted. It looks like off a lower class car which if I was Ferrari I would be offended. GT5 has DRL which normally isn’t an option to turn off in cars and the lighting to their looks more exquisite then Forza. Thid last comment I cannot confirm but, GT5 reflections look a lot better than Forza

Sep. 22, 1:37pm

Ngrignon

@Nomino: the Tomaz comparison is fishy and not fair for 2 reasons:
1/ the shots in the GT video is HD, the F3 is not, let’s wait for Forza.net to put online a proper HD release of their clip before to make ANY comparison
2/ the GT shot (from Kohanson/Tomaz) is taken form the User Interface where the car is obviously at her best (more polygons, more details, better lighting/reflections), but the Forza Shot in this”comparison” is taken from what look like a replay with a zoom on the particular front light. Not very fair if you ask me: both game have lesser details during the gameplay than in a photomode or in the User Interface (look at some shot from car selection in Forza: much better lighting/polygons and details)

This been said, I prefer the global lighting and color tone of GT5, I think 10Turns missed the opportunity to work a bit more these departments since E3 which in result are not as good as GT5.
But Forza seems to have a bit more polygons per car than GT5…

Sep. 22, 1:36pm

icant55

DAMN,Finally having Lambos Ferraris, Slr/Sls, Vettes,Skylines and others that i havent mentioned with these graphics …WOW i can’t think of anything better besides owning the cars in person….

Sep. 22, 1:36pm

zuggerat

Cheese and rice, I wanna play this game already…. Rah!

Sep. 22, 1:34pm

Methroix

@hardvibes:
Ah, that’s not what I meant, bad choice of words I guess.
What I meant to say was that on GT5 it’s easier to see the polygons, on the wheel housings and such. Although I admit you have to know what to look for, and look closely…

Sep. 22, 1:30pm

icant55

That desert board looks alot like the ” complex string ” from gt2.That was a Bad A$$ track!, And as for which one looks better,Forza is by far not a bad looking game but,GT5 has lapped it a few times in the graphics department “GREAT WORK PD”, I can only imagine what my electric bill is gonna be like now lol

The song they use in the GT5 video is: London Elektricity – Just one second (Apex Remix)

Sep. 22, 1:22pm

Napoleon_Ist

@Mustangmiha

ferrari didn’t, fanboys of both sides did it for them. they just published 2 videos on their official youtube today.

Watch the video by Sony a tribute to the new 458 Italia, Ferraris 8-cylinder Berlinetta presented at the IAA Frankfurt. The virtual clip shows the car in action on the road and on the track.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYCsnEMpFsg

Watch the video by Microsoft a tribute to the new 458 Italia, Ferraris 8-cylinder Berlinetta presented at the IAA Frankfurt. The virtual clip shows the car in action on the road and on the track.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdufEmwlpf8

don’t forget people Forza 3 is only 720p where Gran Turismo 5 is 1080p.

that makes GT5’s graphics superior :)

Sep. 22, 1:16pm

hardvibes

@Methroix: those who went at gamescom and FDJV said that PD added more anti-aliasing and it’s true… watch the replay video of the 370z

Sep. 22, 1:15pm

Mustangmiha

Why did Ferrari did this comparison…??

Sep. 22, 1:12pm

Mekanaizer

@cobraagent90

It’s The Ring!

Sep. 22, 1:09pm

Nomino

The GT5 video clearly has the more consistent, elegant, refined feel to it. You look at Forza and you know you are looking at a game. Don’t get me wrong, both look great, but you can clearly see where Turn 10 have focussed their development and processing efforts relative to PD.

@Ngrignon, please provide proof that the car in Forza is in-game, with no post-processing effects on it. They are both effectively replays, so if Turn 10 can’t get them looking good, that’s their problem.

Sep. 22, 1:05pm

Methroix

Sadly, Turn 10 still has a lot to learn about shaders, especially the way they’re abusing the specular highlight of the car. It just doesn’t look like deep and glossy car paint, and moreover the whole look of these shots have a sort of plastic fake look of them.
Polyphony’s take on shaders (and atmosphere) on the other hand is impeccable, however their car models feels a bit more jagged than the ones in Forza3.

Having said that, I don’t think the photo from Forza is from the final build, I’ve seen some other videos which have a more realistic look about them. Though still not really on par with GT5.

Having pre-ordered both I still hope GT5 emerges as the better overall game, since otherwise my Fanatec GT3 RS wheel was all but money well spent. :)

Sep. 22, 1:04pm

CT230R

I wonder what that desert track is?

Sep. 22, 12:58pm

A197

I got goosebumps all the way through Polyphony Digital’s version! Turn 10’s version was good but they weren’t focusing on the 458 Italia that much. T10’s version was more like a tribute to Ferrari!
Go Gran Turismo 5!
Now I really feel like crying! They are teasing us so much! They’ve even teased us with a new course! ( The one which looks kinda like Texas ) That course looks so beautiful! I can’t wait till TGS this Thursday – Sunday / Monday
Hats Off To GT5.. Hats Stay On For Forza!

Sep. 22, 12:57pm

Tomaz

@Ngrignon, I confess FM3 is a very good looking game, one of the most beautiful, cars are pure awesomeness but when you look at replay footage of GT5 Prologue you see such details you have never imagine. I confess I only own PS3, but I would like to play FM3 some day, just out of curiosity. I try to be objective as I can but the fact is that GT5 looks better than FM3 so far.

Congrats to both developers!

Sep. 22, 12:55pm

Confi-User-3

YES. I wanted that car in GT5 and now it is in it. Thanks KY =D
I think the GT5 video looks more realistic, but the Forza vid is a good one, too. But the Forza trailer showed some more Ferraris (which is a good idea because now all who buy Forza know which Ferraris are in it) but if you want to do a tribute for the 458 Italia this isn’t that what I think Ferrari want. The GT5 trailer showed ONLY the 458 Italia which is good either (now at last I want a F50 in the game, then it’s perfect). I’m so excited =D

Sep. 22, 12:54pm

Tomaz

Yes, music is awesome. Anyone knows the title of it?

Sep. 22, 12:53pm

Ngrignon

@Tomaz/Kohanson: Do a FAIR comparison or do not do it at all: the GT shot is from the Front End UI of GT5 where the car treatment is rendered and optimal (more polygons/details and reflections than the gameplay) and a ingame shot from Forza3….

This is not fair and just show your fanboy side. To do a FAIR comparison get TWO gameplay shot or get the F3 selection screen of the 458 (which unfortunately is not in the F3 video) where the car is also at its advantage (better lighting, details and polygons).

Sep. 22, 12:49pm

MegaBoy

About the GT5 tribute vid; The music in this is absolute spot-on. really gels really well with teh mood and visuals of this new Ferrari F458.

Sep. 22, 12:46pm

Billou

Oh and an other thing, the french website, Gameblog.fr, have sent some reporters to the TGS and they will go at Polyphony Digital to bring us a other interview ok Yamauchi, a look at their office and i hope some exclusive footage of GT5 !

Sep. 22, 12:44pm

jereweeti

Could the track be an alphalt version of Tuscany and there is the gravel version, just like Cathedral Rocks in GT4?

Sep. 22, 12:44pm

Billou

I want to run in the desert raceway !

Sep. 22, 12:43pm

Aristedis

water?? i see water!!!….plastic forza….

Sep. 22, 12:38pm

riad

wow im sorry but gt 5 versions is just so much more detailed and more of that look at this detail talk. its way they showed so much close up and the slow mo shots .. o man lol, forza look good too but gt version was just a class of beauty as forza was more rock popish i felt lol.

Sep. 22, 12:31pm

JB35868

Trees are still 2-D, but sweet jesus the lighting is flat out without a doubt stunning. The detail is also a sight to behold on those head/tail lights. Polyphony Digital =O =O =O

Sep. 22, 12:30pm

Tomaz

GT5 > FM3

Not fantalk. It’s a fact. I would say that FM3 looks very good, but when you look at GT5 it’s like a reality.

That track looks like it’s set in a Mediterranean country. I’m guessing Italy or Sicily though it is just a wild stab in the dark. :) What do folks think of the F430’s successor then? I don’t like the Enzo-style front lights and those LEDs make it look tacky. But the rest of the car is pretty nice. The F430 is my favourite GT5P car by far however :)

Sep. 22, 12:27pm

Ngrignon

Just a question of lighting…. Both game are exquisite: their physics engine are very good, cars are wonderfully modelized, sounds seems spot on… at the end, GT5 is a “feather” ahead in the graphic department because of its mastering of the global lighting and its more elaborate color tone. In the other departments, well, we’ll see during their proper reviews. But not being a FANBOY, both games will surely satisfy the car porn’s need of every racing enthusiasts on console.

Sep. 22, 12:26pm

fritter

I think that Forza’s ‘arcade’ mentality shows through in their video. And I agree with alba, PD’s video seems more refined.

Sep. 22, 12:24pm

TW82

Still no rubber on track from what we can see in the video. There is the scene where the 458 accelerates and you can see the tires spin, but no rubber :(
I guess, some things will never change.
On the other hand, what Forza does is WAY too much in this regard. The videos shows two massive (unrealistic) black stripes after the acceleration.

Sep. 22, 12:22pm

cobraagent90

What’s the track on 1:41 (GT5 video)

Sep. 22, 12:17pm

alba

I guess I’m going to sound biased but I prefer PD’s effort because it is more consistent, elegant and classy in a way where as Forza switched the music half way through and goes through a few models instead of just focusing on one since it seems to be called “Ferrari 458 Italia Tribute” but ofcourse the little upside would be that you can hear a bit of the sound of it in the Forza one. Can’t really argue that PD’s lighting is still the king ;D