Sami is a very intense wrestler, very innovative. Austin Aries throws the same moves over and over again, shit is boring. Yes Eddie Kingston is great cause he is also very intense. What is that you are so confused about Souf?

Why the bad blood between CZW and PWG? Organizations like these who band together create a more compelling and popular product.

Aries is an attractive commodity because he's developed an entertainer's persona. Previously, critics used to compare Aries to C Daniels - for stringing together fancy move after move without psychology. Well, isn't/wasn't that Tyler Black-Richards at DBD 2010?! Sure, Aries best work in PWG isn't workrate - it's being in tune with his character and playing off who hes working against - sleazin it up with Candice LeRay or putting forth Kendrick and his lazyness out for the public to see... When I watch Aries I get an event - sometimes small/sometimes truly grand stuff. That's why I continue to watch wrestling - because I gravitate towards the personalities - El Generico is the classic babyface underdog who's tough enough to withstand the deadliest strong-style offense...I know he'll kick out ten times before Shingo puts him away.

So Jon Moxley - he's charismatic and watchable - yes, his work is not NOAH but he's hungry/assertive and brings something unique - his misogynism and high school football team bully energy keeps me on edge as to what he'll do. Sami Callahan is improved but, to me, still forced - give it another 9 months. Gargano is overexposed and not needed in PWG

Something that would interest me is having an established East Coaster like Homicide or Kingston enter into a feud with a whiteboy like Gatson - a lost art in wrestling is playing up the obvious... you have the street vs. Star Search - whaddya think?

Gargano is not over exposed, he actually needs more exposure because he is a very good wrestler.

As far as me trying to start shit, no I'm not doing it. All I know is that Super Dragon and Excalibur used to work for CZW and now they don't. I have no clue what happened nor am I gonna talk about this on the message board. So please let's drop it.

In America wrestling companies don't bond together and even if they do it usually doesn't last long. Wrestling politics is not something I made up, read some of these books that are written by wrestlers all the information you need is right there and yes politics is killing this business because fans don't get to see what they want as a result.

What makes a good wrestling show is a variety of different matches. My favorite shows are the once that feature a bit of everything, death match, technical, strong style, high flying and yes even comedy. A great wrestling show must have it all not just same matches over and over again. I will let you guys just ponder on this for a second :twisted:

krayzie Bone wrote:Gargano is not over exposed, he actually needs more exposure because he is a very good wrestler.

As far as me trying to start shit, no I'm not doing it. All I know is that Super Dragon and Excalibur used to work for CZW and now they don't. I have no clue what happened nor am I gonna talk about this on the message board. So please let's drop it.

In America wrestling companies don't bond together and even if they do it usually doesn't last long. Wrestling politics is not something I made up, read some of these books that are written by wrestlers all the information you need is right there and yes politics is killing this business because fans don't get to see what they want as a result.

What makes a good wrestling show is a variety of different matches. My favorite shows are the once that feature a bit of everything, death match, technical, strong style, high flying and yes even comedy. A great wrestling show must have it all not just same matches over and over again. I will let you guys just ponder on this for a second :twisted:

Gargano - Of the non-ROH indies I'm currently watching (Evolve/DG USA/Chikara) Gargano has received a serious push in each. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan but that position of goof-off 'Carrot Top' (DGUSA - Northern Gate...Mochizukiwanted to kick him sooo badly) quirkster is more than capably filled in PWG where spending money for another fly-in wouldn't pay off dividends.

I think the obvious choice, the CZW-ROH wars in 2006, is the perfect example of two companies placed in potentially profitable situations in which 'politics' and small-minded egoists were trashed for quality productions. As a naive fan, 'Hell Freezes Over' (Hero vs. Danielson) and out of nowhere there's major heat on this Hero dude who has come to represent his company (CZW) that's anti the snobbery and piousness they perceived ROH to stand for. Although CZW were unwise to use transient figures to represent them, it was a good year of shows for the average fan to become emotionally invested in their choice of product.

I agree with Krayzie in what comprises an ideal show (though I'm Not a big deathmatch guy/I'm Not judging their masochism, but that's Not my type of sadism) but I'm still baffled by his self-aggrandizing provocations. Don't do this - krayzie Bone

Don't do exactly what? I stated a simple fact that PWG never brings anyone from CZW. I'm not provoking anything, it is a fact. I didn't say PWG must bring CZW guys nor did I criticize PWG for not booking CZW talent, all I said is that they don't bring CZW workers, how is that provoking anything?

If you're going to arouse and thus provoke someone's interest with ''gotta love wrestling politics lol'' then why overdramatize your response with this: "I have no clue what happened nor am I gonna talk about this on the message board. So please let's drop it." Then again, I thought you knew something you did confess to not knowing.

Really, I was curious what happened, if anything, between the two organizations -

What a bunch of liars. Krayzie, I'm betting there are numerous people on this board that know the story better than you do. They tore up their pictures of Zandig, wrote about it in their diaries and cried themselves to sleep over it. Stop letting them bait you on this.

Seriously, there should be a fund set up for poor indy wrestling fans so they may be brought to a strip club and perhaps become less confused. LOL

I think Aries' most memorable run was like in '06. He had some great matches and I'd love to see him again in PWG. But supposedly Aries is really thinking about retiring and pursuing other things like acting and whatnot. I kinda don't buy it, but I see it happening.

on a side note, I met Aries earlier this month and he is a super nice guy who is very hard working. He's definitely a wrestler's wrestler