Looks like it could use a few more screws but very good nonetheless! The rounded corners are a nice touch.

RAM_Designs

05-07-2008, 10:15 PM

Looks like it could use a few more screws but very good nonetheless! The rounded corners are a nice touch.

screws are overrated...less is more.

Slammed

05-09-2008, 02:59 AM

I just opened the box...looks nice

but......Im a bit curious SPY

what happens if instead of cutting the front at 16" X 36" the front panel is cut at 14.5" X 32.25" ?

ravens9322

05-09-2008, 03:06 AM

what are you curious about cuz I'm givin him 120 bucks in a few hours to start my build

crzystng

05-09-2008, 03:06 AM

I just opened the box...looks nice

but......Im a bit curious SPY

what happens if instead of cutting the front at 16" X 36" the front panel is cut at 14.5" X 32.25" ?

The front panel is pushed inside the box by 3/4" so 14.5*33.25*.75=.21^3 that is lost internally and that is going to effect the tunning by a little. Not to mention the strength that is lost on the mounting of the sub to the panel. Surprised that didn't break on you while moving around the shop. :confused:

he designed and built my powerbase dual sub enclosure with no problems

Idealrealist

05-09-2008, 03:39 AM

:woot:

crzystng

05-09-2008, 03:40 AM

I would have built it no probs, but unfortunately I have a pretty serious back problem right now and can't lift a sheet of MDF if I wanted to.

crzystng

05-09-2008, 04:00 AM

I'm sure it was a little simple mistake. he seems like a very particular guy and very easy to work with. I'm trusting him to build my box. good guy none the less

I don't know him personally, however, I do recall space being a major issue when I designing this enclosure for slammed. That .2^3 throws things off kilter enough to change the characteristics of how the sub will sound. My main concern is with the strength of the front panel. When the sub is finally mounted in place. 1/4" of play between the cutout and the end of the board isn't very much at all. And again, I am very surprised that it didn't break on him when moving it around. That definitely wouldn't fly in any kind of SPL enclosure ;)

revrider1

05-09-2008, 04:05 AM

Very well said

ravens9322

05-09-2008, 04:08 AM

I'm sure bjfisher has ****ed up before and he is some kind of king I guess lol. hell god made fat ugly chicks and ppl pray to him all the time

Idealrealist

05-09-2008, 04:12 AM

This box needs more cowbell :fyi:

revrider1

05-09-2008, 04:13 AM

haha

ravens9322

05-09-2008, 04:15 AM

sorry that other thread has fat ugly chicks on my mind mmmmmmm

revrider1

05-09-2008, 04:18 AM

lmao

crzystng

05-09-2008, 04:19 AM

I have seen some of Fishers work around here and have to say that it is pretty amazing on what some people can do with simple hand tools. As far as SPY's work goes, it looks to be decent. Better than some I have seen around here. Which is probably why he is able to build enclosures for members around here. I am by no means trying to take any sales away from him or ruin his reputation in these parts of the woods. I am simply trying to point out that he did make a mistake that has compromised the strength and overall sound of this particular enclosure.

ravens9322

05-09-2008, 04:23 AM

I understand stng. all I know is mines gonna be amazing or I'm breaking thumbs... lol just kiddin spy

SPY

05-09-2008, 07:52 AM

The box was built to specs and should be the correct vol and tuning.

15.5"d x 36"w x 16"h

That being said, you are right, I did make a mistake by putting the front inside the box. This is why I prefer to design the boxes I build myself.

I will stand behind my work and if it breaks I will replace it.

Slammed please confirm that the box does have the right external dimensions and therefore is the correct vol and tuning.

Slammed

05-09-2008, 06:41 PM

Im curious if .75" was added to the depth to compromise for the internal air space due to how the front was placed.

If not, there is a significant loss in space (0.2 cu ft) and the tuning will be a bit higher as well

someone please correct me if Im wrong

also, the .25" mounting clearance for the sub makes the area pretty weak :(

Slammed

05-09-2008, 06:43 PM

SPY did a great job with my first enclosure. I was very happy with it.

so...I guess Im wrong with thinking that the placement of the front baffle would have any internal space loss?

Slammed

05-09-2008, 07:24 PM

can someone please answer this....Im a bit of a ported enclosure newbie :)

miker

05-09-2008, 07:35 PM

can someone please answer this....Im a bit of a ported enclosure newbie :)

pretty much, the tuning of the port is based on the airspace of the box. so if the port was tuned for say 2.5 cubes, and the box is 2.2 cubes, your tuning will be a little higher than expected, and it will also make the subs less efficient.

Well I'm pretty sure that's right :)

Slammed

05-09-2008, 07:38 PM

pretty much, the tuning of the port is based on the airspace of the box. so if the port was tuned for say 2.5 cubes, and the box is 2.2 cubes, your tuning will be a little higher than expected, and it will also make the subs less efficient.

Well I'm pretty sure that's right :)

thanks for your reply :)

my question was....am I losing internal space due to the baffle being located inside the enclosure instead of being mounted outside?

miker

05-09-2008, 07:46 PM

To me it looks like it was designed that way?

I'm kinda confused what's "wrong" with the box..

Slammed

05-09-2008, 10:13 PM

SPY just emailed me and explained it to me

thanks

I will be installing tomorrow

miker

05-09-2008, 10:18 PM

Yeah.. to me it looks good

Hope it sounds good

BrianChia

05-09-2008, 10:20 PM

Same box, just assembled differently. There doesn't seem to be anything wrong. The baffle should be just as strong if the front panel is glued properly.

bonesninja

05-09-2008, 10:22 PM

if the external dimensions are the same as the design, then no you did not lose airspace but yes he admits that there is a build flaw but like a man, he said he would replace it if it breaks.

crzystng

05-10-2008, 06:47 PM

So everything about the box is the same as the plans i was given except the front baffle was placed between the top and bottom instead of over them.

The overall dimensions are the same and therefore the vol and tuning should be correct. Any clearance issures are the fault of the designer.

Correction, any clearance issues are the fault of the BUILDER, as he is ultimately the one who decided to divert from the original design. The original front panel had taken the clearance issues of the mounting of the subwoofer into account and was to use the remaining connecting panels to account for the strength needed to properly brace the sub. Upon further observations of the enclosure the second time around, I noted that the front panel had been changed and automatically assumed the rest of the plans had been adhered to. Without correct measurements I was unable to determine the actual specifications of the enclosure at that point and proceeded to account for the change of design by subtracting the impeding panels from the original design.
I believe that we can both learn from this miscommunication. ;)

Slammed

05-10-2008, 08:47 PM

I installed the subwoofer today

I actually inverted it

........wow!

:eek:

Slammed

05-10-2008, 08:47 PM

thanks for the design crzystng

thanks for the enclosure and great communication SPY

:veryhapp:

revrider1

05-10-2008, 08:49 PM

It loud?

Slammed

05-10-2008, 08:50 PM

It loud?

;)

crzystng

05-10-2008, 10:56 PM

;)

:needpics:

Slammed

05-11-2008, 10:55 AM

:needpics:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/2NYCE/maw15box.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/2NYCE/maw15box5.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/2NYCE/maw15box4.png

Slammed

05-11-2008, 10:55 AM

:veryhapp:

IDSkoT

05-11-2008, 11:11 AM

This is a good lookin' box.
I understand where the naive sense of fear came along, no offense.

But the placement of the baffle, or any other piece of wood, would not change the inside dimensions as long as the outside is the same.
What SPY did was simply extend the other 2 pieces of wood, and slip the baffle inbetween them.

Like so:

|_|

Rather than:
| |
----

(With the baffle touching, of course)

He expained this to SLAMMED, but for the other people that are confused. That's what happened.

Although, the baffle on the outside in this particular build would've been better due to wood strength. It's impracticle, I think, to mount the baffle on the outside like that simply because you have to cut out the port or notch the top / bottom wood to hold the baffle.

I think SPY did a good job. Nice router job. And, he admits to the mistake... but I doubt it'll break. He braced it pretty well and it looks like he glued it well, too. So, keep on bumpin'! :thumbsup:

Slammed

05-11-2008, 11:13 AM

:)

he did a great job, no doubt!

ravens9322

05-11-2008, 06:43 PM

what sub is that?

Slammed

05-11-2008, 08:13 PM

Maw15

:)

Fusion_FREAK

05-11-2008, 08:18 PM

Nice, great choice of woofer there also.

What's the specs on the box?

Slammed

05-11-2008, 08:20 PM

Nice, great choice of woofer there also.

What's the specs on the box?

3.0 cu ft tuned to 32hz.

36w x 16h x 15.5d

Korn4Life

05-11-2008, 08:22 PM

Who would be a good person to go to for a box build for 2 12" HDC3's? It would be in a 1996 Grand am

Slammed

05-11-2008, 08:23 PM

Who would be a good person to go to for a box build for 2 12" HDC3's? It would be in a 1996 Grand am

pm ca.com member SPY

:)

bjfish11

05-11-2008, 08:33 PM

I didnt read the last couple pages... so maybe this has been said.

The only thing SPY changed was the orientation of the panels. It did not alter the internal volume (as long as the external dims are the same). Basically, he subtracted 1.5" from the front and back panels, and added it from the top and bottom. I wouldnt be too worried about the panel strength. You will be fine. Due to space restrictions, it happens a lot. And I have yet to receive an email form someone about their box breaking there.

Bottom line.... what he did was fine. If the ext dims are the same as whats on the design, your specs are correct.

Fusion_FREAK

05-11-2008, 08:34 PM

3.0 cu ft tuned to 32hz.

36w x 16h x 15.5d

Nice, I think mine is 3.2^ @ 32hz.

I want to make a box like yours. Sub back, port back. Right now Mine's is sub up port back.