yes he did pass away and steve my mother cried on the track as we had to pull him on a trailer to get him off the track... in no way was he pre raced drugged or anything other then lasix. i wish you would stop the hate towards my family and i .. but especially dont bring up a death of a horse because our horses in our stable ARE family and pets. he bled through lasix tonight and the toxicology and every other test will prove it so call your buddies at the IRB and anyone else... it was a loss to us and our family and the owner.... and if you say we drug horses... your wrong on that too NO POSITIVES in this stable for over 45years!!!!!! i hope someday i see you and ask you why your such a hardass on the internet but a *** in person i bet you wouldnt need a cane to run and escape the people you blast so much on here and the other website!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! karma will come back on you someday.... and when it does just know its only fair you piece of white trash scum!

yes he did pass away and steve my mother cried on the track as we had to pull him on a trailer to get him off the track... in no way was he pre raced drugged or anything other then lasix. i wish you would stop the hate towards my family and i .. but especially dont bring up a death of a horse because our horses in our stable ARE family and pets. he bled through lasix tonight and the toxicology and every other test will prove it so call your buddies at the IRB and anyone else... it was a loss to us and our family and the owner.... and if you say we drug horses... your wrong on that too NO POSITIVES in this stable for over 45years!!!!!! i hope someday i see you and ask you why your such a hardass on the internet but a *** in person i bet you wouldnt need a cane to run and escape the people you blast so much on here and the other website!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! karma will come back on you someday.... and when it does just know its only fair you piece of white trash scum!

sorry dont bring him back but thank you ... it was a horrible feeling i just got him pulled up and when we turned.. he took a turn for the worst ...i dont think my mother will be the same after losing this horse... she takes great care and pride in her horses "pets" and work she might not win every race or even get a check but she works her ass off to make them sound and try hard. im lost for words right now to even begin to explain what she feels or how bad i feel because i was the driver behind this horse! good morning everyone and have a good day zeke

sorry dont bring him back but thank you ... it was a horrible feeling i just got him pulled up and when we turned.. he took a turn for the worst ...i dont think my mother will be the same after losing this horse... she takes great care and pride in her horses "pets" and work she might not win every race or even get a check but she works her ass off to make them sound and try hard. im lost for words right now to even begin to explain what she feels or how bad i feel because i was the driver behind this horse! good morning everyone and have a good day zeke

I'm so sorry for your Moms loss and yours I just can't imagine how you must feel.

cigar , I'll wait and see how this plays out before posting anymore on this subject . I do however feel that nothing will become of your action taken if any .In the meantime i'm sorry for the loss to the connections of this horse .

Got the proof, and face to face conversations....we can spin this anyway anyone wants....but fact is Roberta admitted to using foreign substances!!!

And it's only slander if you haven't said it before....well I made the claim with balmoral months ago....so what I'm saying isn't new..

I let something go a few months back that I should have fought against, but I didn't have the energy back then because of health issues....well I'm better now and have all the energy!!!

I believe you! It's so funny how theses trainers/drivers can deny,deny & deny. I've witness these crooks for 30 years. First it was Joe Anderson, than we had Captain Morgan. Now we have a bunch. I guess for the almighty $ people will cheat and deny. And they do it with a straight face.

I know you will deny. But anyone that has a brain knows you have cheated on multiple occassions. It's the nature of the business. You drivers are a close knit fraternity. Purses are very small. Races are videotaped. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that you guys will cheat if the opportunity presents itself.

Using your own words "karma is a ***". Keep cheating, keep denying and life goes on!

I got no beef with smolin, don't know if he cheats or not.All I can say is what his mom told me face to face as she was ripping me off.

But she did mention names in our conversations and yes Bobby smolin's name was mentioned along with others!

I said I would get her for it eventually and like anything this is the time to do it!So Roberta you got me, now is time for paybacks too bad you had to use drivers and trainers in our conversation so they will also get implicated.

cigar , I'll wait and see how this plays out before posting anymore on this subject . I do however feel that nothing will become of your action taken if any .In the meantime i'm sorry for the loss to the connections of this horse .

not up to me to see how it plays out, all i can do is testify and give my proof. the rest is up to the people looking into some scum bags in racing.

in general I only had a few bad experiences some were my fault some not...........but the one i had with roberta was all her!

and she did say that she used some special juice along with another trainer........that's all i can say don't know if zeke was juiced or not!

a horse loss is never a good thing, these horses go out and race their guts out.and i dont wish anything bad on any of them.

I can just imagine some of the bums you see at tracks testifying before some racing board.

Telling them how its all rigged and drugs but yet they are there every night to lose their social security check.

Its impossible that they are clueless?

Its just a conspiracy of drugs and crooked drivers that makes them losers.

I have nothing to do with the betting on these races, and I dont go to the track to bet often 1 or 2 times a month if that much...............this was a business dealing i had with the trainer so it is first hand knowledge of what was said.......there isn't any I heard from.........I heard it directly spoken to me..........like I said spin the baby anyway you want.

I have nothing to do with the betting on these races, and I dont go to the track to bet often 1 or 2 times a month if that much...............this was a business dealing i had with the trainer so it is first hand knowledge of what was said.......there isn't any I heard from.........I heard it directly spoken to me..........like I said spin the baby anyway you want.

Just curious

Why would a trainer tell a stranger something that could end their ability to make a living?

I GO TO ROBERTA"s BARN ABOUT 3 TIMES AYEAR. THE STUFF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SHE TOLD ME ABOUT TO. ITS BLOOD BUILDER ,SHE BOUGHT AT BIG D"s . TAKES AWHILE TO WORK , THATS HER BIG DEAL PRE RACE . SO DEE ,IM MEAN CIGAR, WHY DONT YOIU JUST SHUT UP .ITS BAD ENOUGH HER HORSE DIED , SHE FEELS BAD ENOUGH! THE HORSES ARE HER LIFE. GOT NOTHING ELSE!

any idiot could see the horse has been bleeding the way he had been stopping.. she was giving bleeder meds and lasix just didnt work! horses bleed all the time --they dont die from it. its a sad !thing