That's what I thought. I was like....when did DoDo Williams get picked up by Denver?....lol

__________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

There's nothing to really argue, Brady has 3 rings been to 5 superbowls and owns Manning head to head.

Timmy Smith is a better running back than Barry Sanders.

__________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

Tom Brady was the centerpiece of teams that won superbowl. Not a fair comparison at all. Anyways, Thomas with another OT killer?

Nope. He has more super bowls therefore he's better. John Riggins too.

__________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

__________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

What I am saying is there is a difference between being the main guy and the reason your team wins a superbowl versus some one who is along for the ride. Similar to Michael Jordan vs Robert Horry.

I understand what you are saying, I'm just saying you can't use super bowl rings as a decider between two players, but say it's invalid in another case of comparing two people. I'm going to let you all think about how retarded that logic is. Teams win super bowls, not players. If Brady and Manning had equal teams, you might would have a point. Fact is, they didn't. Never have. Patriots defense and Vinateri are a huge reason to that success. In fact, if it wasn't for Vinateri, you can take away 2 of those Super Bowls.

__________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

I am okay with the reception call, But the PI call is Bull. Someone has to explain to me how come the NFL has ref teams that work together 17 weeks then break them up and scramble up the teams for the playoffs.

I understand what you are saying, I'm just saying you can't use super bowl rings as a decider between two players, but say it's invalid in another case of comparing two people. I'm going to let you all think about how retarded that logic is. Teams win super bowls, not players. If Brady and Manning had equal teams, you might would have a point. Fact is, they didn't. Never have. Patriots defense and Vinateri are a huge reason to that success. In fact, if it wasn't for Vinateri, you can take away 2 of those Super Bowls.

Peyton Manning lost a lot of those playoff games due to poor play. Peyton Manning had talented offenses with potential hall of famers all around. You could argue that Peyton Manning put his teams in terrible positions for a lot of those games. In his superbowl run he threw 7 interceptions to 4 touchdowns... To me its like comparing a great post season player vs a great regular season player.

I am okay with the reception call, But the PI call is Bull. Someone has to explain to me how come the NFL has ref teams that work together 17 weeks then break them up and scramble up the teams for the playoffs.

Terrible call. They got the ball back anyway because Flacco thought it was a good idea to take a sack.

__________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

Peyton Manning lost a lot of those playoff games due to poor play. Peyton Manning had talented offenses with potential hall of famers all around. You could argue that Peyton Manning put his teams in terrible positions for a lot of those games. In his superbowl run he threw 7 interceptions to 4 touchdowns... To me its like comparing a great post season player vs a great regular season player.

I suggest you go back and look at the defenses these teams had. It makes a huge difference. I mean a HUGE difference. Peyton was going against a defense that ranked in top 5 in scoring defense while Brady was going against a shitty Colts that ranked close to last.

__________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty