new guy1 wrote:Well zimmah, the first page says that it will be very unbalanced towards town, making me believe this isnt your normal C9 game, etc.

I re-read through page one to make sure that I wasn't skimming or blatantly missing something. I did not see any posts where crazymilkshake5 referred to this game as a C9. I wonder how I could've missed that? It could be great if someone could quote that post for me.

new guy1 wrote:Well zimmah, the first page says that it will be very unbalanced towards town, making me believe this isnt your normal C9 game, etc.

I re-read through page one to make sure that I wasn't skimming or blatantly missing something. I did not see any posts where crazymilkshake5 referred to this game as a C9. I wonder how I could've missed that? It could be great if someone could quote that post for me.

Didn't ng1 just state this is not a c9?

Not sure how to take this.. but I think ng1 said it was not your REGULAR c9 mafia... could be taken as 2 things:

-he thinks its C9 mafia but not an ordinary one-he was making a reference to this mafia not being regular and COMPARING it to c9 style

new guy1 wrote:Well zimmah, the first page says that it will be very unbalanced towards town, making me believe this isnt your normal C9 game, etc.

I re-read through page one to make sure that I wasn't skimming or blatantly missing something. I did not see any posts where crazymilkshake5 referred to this game as a C9. I wonder how I could've missed that? It could be great if someone could quote that post for me.

Didn't ng1 just state this is not a c9?

Not sure how to take this.. but I think ng1 said it was not your REGULAR c9 mafia... could be taken as 2 things:

-he thinks its C9 mafia but not an ordinary one-he was making a reference to this mafia not being regular and COMPARING it to c9 style

All I saw was the original post by Crazy which said that it was likely to be unbalanced in very small letters at the bottom. I don't think I saw anything else about it.

Okay, I dont know which question Im being asked at this point, but I will clarify and say by my quote (that has been quoted above by zimmah) and explain that by "normal c9" I was saying it is not a c9, and I was saying that it is not a c9 because typically c9 setups are balanced, and because he is saying it is going to be unbalanced I figured that it is not a c9 game. If you need more clarification, ask. Also, the mod might have edited it, or I might have been seeing things (most likely answer), but I thought I saw something that said that it was going to be unbalanced towards town, but again I might have read it wrong. Did that answer all your questions?

Vote Kanin Kanin calls out me and vio for not posting anything of substance while not pointing out two other people that did not post anything of substance. Meanwhile, it was very difficult to tell that they were posting anything of substance. It may not be much, but it sure is a place to start.

elonpuckhog wrote:Vote Kanin Kanin calls out me and vio for not posting anything of substance while not pointing out two other people that did not post anything of substance. Meanwhile, it was very difficult to tell that they were posting anything of substance. It may not be much, but it sure is a place to start.

I never once claimed anything about you two. I was just trying to get the two most inactive to start posting. I pointed out Vio as well, but Vio hasn't once mentioned it, so she obviously isn't as concerned about it. You, on the other hand, have been extremely defensive about it from the beginning. I haven't even mentioned it at all on this page, but you're bringing it back up? And no, it isn't a place to start. New guy1 is a place to start from his (potential) slip, but the moment anyone attempts to focus on that, you try and place everyone's focus on me, something that looks extremely scummy.

Vote elonpuckhog for being extremely defensive about something that I haven't even brought up in two days and trying to get everyone focused on me when they should be trying to work out a potential scum slip.

And lest you think I'm about to go inactive myself, I'm leaving for work in about twenty minutes, so I won't be on again for at least ten hours.

new guy1 wrote:Okay, I dont know which question Im being asked at this point, but I will clarify and say by my quote (that has been quoted above by zimmah) and explain that by "normal c9" I was saying it is not a c9, and I was saying that it is not a c9 because typically c9 setups are balanced, and because he is saying it is going to be unbalanced I figured that it is not a c9 game. If you need more clarification, ask. Also, the mod might have edited it, or I might have been seeing things (most likely answer), but I thought I saw something that said that it was going to be unbalanced towards town, but again I might have read it wrong. Did that answer all your questions?

why would you think its C9? do you have a C9 role? are you mafia goon?

FOS elon for voting with a poor reason, and then FOS kanin for OMGUS. both of you stop it.

new guy1 wrote:Okay, I dont know which question Im being asked at this point, but I will clarify and say by my quote (that has been quoted above by zimmah) and explain that by "normal c9" I was saying it is not a c9, and I was saying that it is not a c9 because typically c9 setups are balanced, and because he is saying it is going to be unbalanced I figured that it is not a c9 game. If you need more clarification, ask. Also, the mod might have edited it, or I might have been seeing things (most likely answer), but I thought I saw something that said that it was going to be unbalanced towards town, but again I might have read it wrong. Did that answer all your questions?

why would you think its C9? do you have a C9 role? are you mafia goon?

FOS elon for voting with a poor reason, and then FOS kanin for OMGUS. both of you stop it.

It isn't an OMGUS. I had a valid reason for voting, seeing as how he's looking fairly scummy in my eyes, and I would prefer to not leave without doing something fruitful. If CMS would be willing to extend the time a day or two, I wouldn't feel the need to be rushed like this, but he hasn't so far, so my vote is staying.

new guy1 wrote:Okay, I dont know which question Im being asked at this point, but I will clarify and say by my quote (that has been quoted above by zimmah) and explain that by "normal c9" I was saying it is not a c9, and I was saying that it is not a c9 because typically c9 setups are balanced, and because he is saying it is going to be unbalanced I figured that it is not a c9 game. If you need more clarification, ask. Also, the mod might have edited it, or I might have been seeing things (most likely answer), but I thought I saw something that said that it was going to be unbalanced towards town, but again I might have read it wrong. Did that answer all your questions?

why would you think its C9? do you have a C9 role? are you mafia goon?

FOS elon for voting with a poor reason, and then FOS kanin for OMGUS. both of you stop it.

It isn't an OMGUS. I had a valid reason for voting, seeing as how he's looking fairly scummy in my eyes, and I would prefer to not leave without doing something fruitful. If CMS would be willing to extend the time a day or two, I wouldn't feel the need to be rushed like this, but he hasn't so far, so my vote is staying.

Ignore what kanin said, my point is what vodean said. Do you see what is bolded vodean? At least if you are going to make a case of me saying it was a C9 read the whole post... or at least the part where I said it is NOT a c9, because typically c9 setups are balanced, and he said it would not be balanced. vote vodean for blatant skimming.

vodean wrote:CMS, please extend the deadline? the weekend is gonna be slow, and the day has barely even started. its just not enough time.

all in favor?

i'm in favor.

@vodean i actually don't see the vote of kanin as OMGUS, even though he reacted to a vote against him, he did have a solid reason.f i had to chose between kanin and elon based on what little we have to work with, it'd actually think elon is more scummy atm.

@ng1 i think what vodean meant was why would you even compare this mafia to a c9

@vodean you do realise you are fossing both sides of the discussion, right?, and therefore, in essence you're not choosing sides, in other words you're avoiding conflict with both sides.

He was trying to get my role, as in is your role different from a C9 setup role. I wont answer that question, but I thought of his response to my post as aggressive, and so I am voting him because he was trying to see how I reacted (from my perspective), and I dont like when people do that. It causes mislynches most of the time because nobody knows the right way to react. Most of the times if they are passive with responses they are overlooked for maybe one discussion and then discussion comes back to them, while when there is an aggressive response they are pressured then. Might as well get it out of the way, since it has to happen when my name is drawn from the hat of "we need a case, lets pick him" and I see a good counter case, so I will instead pressure him... Im sorry if my thoughts are meshed together, clarification may be needed, but I cant proofread it right now, I have a football (Merican) game to go to tonight, and I have to get ready for it.

Well today has certainly slowed down. We have three cases, and I don't believe any of them are really good. We have a case against vodean for skimming, a case for nosurvivors because he was wish washy during the joke phase, and my case against kanin for basically calling me out unfairly for not posting. I think that is a fair summary. I'd like to hear from violet since I haven't heard anything from them at all in this game. I'd also like to hear from kanin why I'm not allowed to bring up old issues if you don't bring them up first. What makes you superior in that case?I'm going to leave my vote where it is right now, but I may change it, especially if I don't hear from violet soon.

elonpuckhog wrote:Well today has certainly slowed down. We have three cases, and I don't believe any of them are really good. We have a case against vodean for skimming, a case for nosurvivors because he was wish washy during the joke phase, and my case against kanin for basically calling me out unfairly for not posting. I think that is a fair summary. I'd like to hear from violet since I haven't heard anything from them at all in this game. I'd also like to hear from kanin why I'm not allowed to bring up old issues if you don't bring them up first. What makes you superior in that case?I'm going to leave my vote where it is right now, but I may change it, especially if I don't hear from violet soon.

I do agree I was wishy washy.. I also havent posted a lot of good.. but I just dont have anything to add at this point :l not a lot going on that i can.. Thats about where im at.

elonpuckhog wrote:Well today has certainly slowed down. We have three cases, and I don't believe any of them are really good. We have a case against vodean for skimming, a case for nosurvivors because he was wish washy during the joke phase, and my case against kanin for basically calling me out unfairly for not posting. I think that is a fair summary. I'd like to hear from violet since I haven't heard anything from them at all in this game. I'd also like to hear from kanin why I'm not allowed to bring up old issues if you don't bring them up first. What makes you superior in that case?I'm going to leave my vote where it is right now, but I may change it, especially if I don't hear from violet soon.

I'm not sure what else you would like to hear from me at this phase. I haven't said much because I don't think any of the cases are good right now, nor do I have any serious votes. Also, what is it that you feel that you haven't heard from me this "entire game?" I confirmed, and then asked new guy to clarify what he meant be C9. Of course, it's not much of a contribution thus-far, but Day 1 is a huge toss up.

Bruceswar: I have big news coming out soonishViolet: oh, what big news?Bruceswar: I am leaving KORT to go to RA

elonpuckhog wrote:Well today has certainly slowed down. We have three cases, and I don't believe any of them are really good. We have a case against vodean for skimming, a case for nosurvivors because he was wish washy during the joke phase, and my case against kanin for basically calling me out unfairly for not posting. I think that is a fair summary. I'd like to hear from violet since I haven't heard anything from them at all in this game. I'd also like to hear from kanin why I'm not allowed to bring up old issues if you don't bring them up first. What makes you superior in that case?I'm going to leave my vote where it is right now, but I may change it, especially if I don't hear from violet soon.

I'm not sure what else you would like to hear from me at this phase. I haven't said much because I don't think any of the cases are good right now, nor do I have any serious votes. Also, what is it that you feel that you haven't heard from me this "entire game?" I confirmed, and then asked new guy to clarify what he meant be C9. Of course, it's not much of a contribution thus-far, but Day 1 is a huge toss up.

I think the same thing as you for today.. but what they want is to know you aren't totally submarining the game. At least be active in a sense that you are posting But yeah.. the day is, ending tomorrow? So should we apply pressure to someone or vote a NL? Not a very productive day for us :l