new music, marketing, bon jovi I know this was kinda discussed this past week but I wanted to kinda give me feelings on it.
with the &quot;big&quot; bands from the 80's - def lep, motley etc. while they all did well and still do well and none have to worry about money, bon jovi was the most successful.
while I have been critical like most of you of bon jovi's post 2000 releases as they have veered away from more guitar heavy rock ( for me the exception was have a nice day), i will give the band credit for keeping recording and putting out NEW music in a ful album format. with bounce, lost highway , have a nice day, circle and now the new one, they have released 5 brand new studio albums in the past 10-11 years. again this debate is not about what people think. reviews are more mixed...
now they sold ok but like most bands of all eras sales are down because its just too easy to steal the music.
bon jovi by far does not need the money, they could easily just do greatets hits tours like def, motley, poison etc and give up like those bands have on doing full new albums. But they havent. They know they are not going to sell millions of albums anymore, but yet they still create new music for their FANS if not for themselves. They tour alot and though the same age as def lep and motley, they play close to 3 hours many times playing not just the hits but playing alot from new album and recent releases to keep the fire going. while bands like def lep are lucky to play 2 hours . On top of that they release several dvd concerts along the way and other stuff to keep their fans happy and their name out there. They market themselves very well appearing on all sorts of shows even non rock shows like american idol to again market themselves.
The market has changed and done are the days where artists sell millions of records. It does happen but much harder to do, for any artist. But that does not mean a band should just give up.
while I have not been a huge fan of recent bon jovi stuff most albums have enough songs I like to satisfy me. I will support them by buying the hard copy cd of which i have already ordered, As I also support other bands.
so ..to bands like def lep, motley, and now maybe journey...they need to learn and remain creative...
off of soap box now.
Davidhttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934672#msg-934672Sat, 10 Dec 2016 05:34:14 +0000Phorum 5.2.16http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934888#msg-934888Re: new music, marketing, bon jovihttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934888#msg-934888DaredevilNoticeboardTue, 19 Mar 2013 16:12:28 +0000http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934868#msg-934868Re: new music, marketing, bon jovihttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934868#msg-934868Someone-elseNoticeboardTue, 19 Mar 2013 14:08:52 +0000http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934785#msg-934785Re: new music, marketing, bon jovihttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934785#msg-934785Richie - 7th heaven]]>7thheavenNoticeboardTue, 19 Mar 2013 00:23:46 +0000http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934779#msg-934779Re: new music, marketing, bon jovihttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934779#msg-934779Perhaps the sequence of albums should've been something like the buying experience:

Keep The ChangeHave A Nice Day......and when you put the CD on : Crush (ed)]]>the ORIGINAL brentNoticeboardMon, 18 Mar 2013 23:34:42 +0000http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934751#msg-934751Re: new music, marketing, bon jovihttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934751#msg-934751Oddly enough, many 90s bands are starting to go through the same growing pains.

I see Goo Goo Dolls and Matchbox 20 are touring together now. Neither one with hits in recent memory, unable to move albums like they did (or like anyone did) a few years ago. The tour isn't selling great and both bands are becoming 90s nostalgia at this point. We're probably only a few years away from bands of that ilk giving up on new music as well.

Funny how the trajectory is so similar.]]>RobertNoticeboardMon, 18 Mar 2013 20:43:12 +0000http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934740#msg-934740Re: new music, marketing, bon jovihttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934740#msg-934740> I have liked every album from keep the change> onward>

I must have missed that one? ;oP]]>Tony BainbridgeNoticeboardMon, 18 Mar 2013 18:48:09 +0000http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934735#msg-934735Re: new music, marketing, bon jovihttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934735#msg-934735I had their first album on import and saw them supporting kiss on the first visit to the uk and followed them right through, only really missing bounce

I can't listen to anything before faith now, I've grown in the same time frame as Bon jovi and have loved all eras at the time but the early stuff really grates on me now

I much prefer the band they are now and probably would see them live if it wasn't for the stupid ticket prices]]>plumberNoticeboardMon, 18 Mar 2013 17:25:40 +0000http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934721#msg-934721Re: new music, marketing, bon jovihttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934721#msg-934721Australian Albums Chart #1Dutch Albums Chart #2UK Album Chart #2Belgian Albums Chart #8]]>DaredevilNoticeboardMon, 18 Mar 2013 14:24:43 +0000http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934719#msg-934719Re: new music, marketing, bon jovihttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934719#msg-934719I buy an album if I like the band or the music. And I refuse to buy the new Bon Jovi because it's the worst album of their career and I can't even listen to it through....it's boring.

And by not buying, I hope it's part of a larger lack of album sales. And those low album sales might just send a signal that this experiment is not liked by at least a significant portion of the fans. Many bands - just like those in the 'scene' - will be in denial about what the signal means...oh, it's the market today, it's piracy, it's the label & promotion, whatever. I would say most of the time, it's because the album is just not that good. Talent is in short supply in any industry.]]>JMacNoticeboardMon, 18 Mar 2013 13:30:42 +0000http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934714#msg-934714Re: new music, marketing, bon jovihttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934714#msg-934714they couldn't be bothered to make new music, and @ this point I don't know if I could be bothered to buy it if they did. I just don't really care about the band anymore. It's kinda hard to be anything but a nostalgic act when you don't release new music.

Jon said on Katie even after 30 years he still has a huge desire to write new songs/and take those songs to the people. Bon Jovi forever!]]>jbjrsdcNoticeboardMon, 18 Mar 2013 12:51:24 +0000http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934710#msg-934710Re: new music, marketing, bon jovihttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934710#msg-934710the ORIGINAL brentNoticeboardMon, 18 Mar 2013 12:34:55 +0000http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934698#msg-934698Re: new music, marketing, bon jovihttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934698#msg-934698patiscatNoticeboardMon, 18 Mar 2013 10:25:43 +0000http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934695#msg-934695Re: new music, marketing, bon jovihttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934695#msg-934695AndrewNoticeboardMon, 18 Mar 2013 10:17:47 +0000http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934694#msg-934694Re: new music, marketing, bon jovihttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934694#msg-934694Def Lep, Poison, Motley, etc will not sell records outside of the diminishing rock fan base. All those fans are getting older now and do not really buy much in the way of new music. Unfortunately, not everyone remains as passionate about music as the people here. When they go to see them live they just want to hear the hits from back in the day and relive their youth a little. New song = toilet/bar break, unfortunately. I can see their point in not wanting to make new music, as sad as it is...even if they made the best record of their career it would struggle to sell...

If Bon Jovi were in the same boat as these bands I'm not sure that they would bother making records either, but they know that they are going to get a decent amount of exposure and sales. They are also the only band that still have a major label behind them, pushing them for new albums...]]>thinnyNoticeboardMon, 18 Mar 2013 10:05:42 +0000http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934690#msg-934690Re: new music, marketing, bon jovihttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934690#msg-934690RAMSAYNoticeboardMon, 18 Mar 2013 09:46:37 +0000http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934672#msg-934672new music, marketing, bon jovihttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934672,934672#msg-934672with the "big" bands from the 80's - def lep, motley etc. while they all did well and still do well and none have to worry about money, bon jovi was the most successful.

while I have been critical like most of you of bon jovi's post 2000 releases as they have veered away from more guitar heavy rock ( for me the exception was have a nice day), i will give the band credit for keeping recording and putting out NEW music in a ful album format. with bounce, lost highway , have a nice day, circle and now the new one, they have released 5 brand new studio albums in the past 10-11 years. again this debate is not about what people think. reviews are more mixed...

now they sold ok but like most bands of all eras sales are down because its just too easy to steal the music.

bon jovi by far does not need the money, they could easily just do greatets hits tours like def, motley, poison etc and give up like those bands have on doing full new albums. But they havent. They know they are not going to sell millions of albums anymore, but yet they still create new music for their FANS if not for themselves. They tour alot and though the same age as def lep and motley, they play close to 3 hours many times playing not just the hits but playing alot from new album and recent releases to keep the fire going. while bands like def lep are lucky to play 2 hours . On top of that they release several dvd concerts along the way and other stuff to keep their fans happy and their name out there. They market themselves very well appearing on all sorts of shows even non rock shows like american idol to again market themselves.

The market has changed and done are the days where artists sell millions of records. It does happen but much harder to do, for any artist. But that does not mean a band should just give up.

while I have not been a huge fan of recent bon jovi stuff most albums have enough songs I like to satisfy me. I will support them by buying the hard copy cd of which i have already ordered, As I also support other bands.

so ..to bands like def lep, motley, and now maybe journey...they need to learn and remain creative...