There are many exceptions to that ... slander, incitement to violence, etc.

So there are direct consequences. Hmmm...

I'd like to see some folks test out their pet theories in the laboratory of real life.

Often, I find, something that makes sense on virtual paper is utterly meaningless when it confronts actual reality.

Don't you?

Exactly. I feel my statement that it could only exist in a sterile environment outside of reality is most fitting. It has little to no application in
the real world, and the argument can only be used to detract from the reality that words and speech can have consequences.

There are many exceptions to that ... slander, incitement to violence, etc.

So there are direct consequences. Hmmm...

I'd like to see some folks test out their pet theories in the laboratory of real life.

Often, I find, something that makes sense on virtual paper is utterly meaningless when it confronts actual reality.

Don't you?

Exactly. I feel my statement that it could only exist in a sterile environment outside of reality is most fitting. It has little to no application in
the real world, and the argument can only be used to detract from the reality that words and speech can have consequences.

An argument you could never prove, but I bet you would keep promoting no less.

If you punch a man for saying a joke about your mother, is that the consequence of his speech, or the consequence of you being unable to take a
joke?

If a person is found to be unfit to be a parent because they verbally abuse their children, is that the consequence of their speech, or the
consequences of the child being too much of a pansy to take it?

There are many exceptions to that ... slander, incitement to violence, etc.

So there are direct consequences. Hmmm...

I'd like to see some folks test out their pet theories in the laboratory of real life.

Often, I find, something that makes sense on virtual paper is utterly meaningless when it confronts actual reality.

Don't you?

Exactly. I feel my statement that it could only exist in a sterile environment outside of reality is most fitting. It has little to no application in
the real world, and the argument can only be used to detract from the reality that words and speech can have consequences.

An argument you could never prove, but I bet you would keep promoting no less.

Your entire argument is one you cannot prove. Words have consequences under rule of law, but you claim there are no consequences.

I am one person and If I say something to one person, it is only to them. That person alone can either get offended or not.

That person can take what I said directly to them and now tell others. Does that induce more responsibility when I had no control over if that one
person I spoke to decided to go off and tell others what I said?

When speaking to a group, it's different. The chance of more than one person being offended rises and for me to be responsible, it would've helped to
know in advance just how many that would be. Why should I be responsible for free speech when you never know who and how many will be offended?

If someone insulted me, it is MY responsibility to keep it from offending me, not those who said it, as free speech allows them to say anything,
anytime, anywhere to anyone. What we have is a bunch of softies who allow themselves to become offended and then retaliate by making sure you can't
say or do that again, stifling free speech.

The responsibility lies on the offended to keep their emotions from getting the best of them and until it gets physical, this whole victim mentality
is breeding an environment where people coil up like snake until some rat comes by and says something that will initiate emotions that allow
themselves to become offended.

People are so freaking sensitive and it's killing free speech, which has now forced everyone to be responsible for words that only mean as much as the
person they’re directed to allows them to mean. When speaking to a crowd, it's almost impossible to be responsible for the reactions of so many
different personalities and emotional thresholds that the responsibility should be on those who put themselves in what only they would consider harms
way.

If you punch a man for saying a joke about your mother, is that the consequence of his speech, or the consequence of you being unable to take a
joke?

If a person is found to be unfit to be a parent because they verbally abuse their children, is that the consequence of their speech, or the
consequences of the child being too much of a pansy to take it?

For one, I'm not sure you know what a consequence is. There is a causal sequence with causal links, like a chain. What is the causal link between
speech and consequences? Does the words fly through the air and hit a consequence button?

If you punch a man for saying a joke about your mother, is that the consequence of his speech, or the consequence of you being unable to take a
joke?

If a person is found to be unfit to be a parent because they verbally abuse their children, is that the consequence of their speech, or the
consequences of the child being too much of a pansy to take it?

For one, I'm not sure you know what a consequence is. There is a causal sequence with causal links, like a chain. What is the causal link between
speech and consequences? Does the words fly through the air and hit a consequence button?

Ok, you're stepping back in to nutter philosophy land. We need you to come back to reality before we can continue.

If you punch a man for saying a joke about your mother, is that the consequence of his speech, or the consequence of you being unable to take a
joke?

If a person is found to be unfit to be a parent because they verbally abuse their children, is that the consequence of their speech, or the
consequences of the child being too much of a pansy to take it?

For one, I'm not sure you know what a consequence is. There is a causal sequence with causal links, like a chain. What is the causal link between
speech and consequences? Does the words fly through the air and hit a consequence button?

Ok, you're stepping back in to nutter philosophy land. We need you to come back to reality before we can continue.

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