Originally Posted By MadMardigan:There will be an uncivil war on the near future.

Yup. All the talk here about people rising up against the govt to defend gun rights is just talk. On the other hand, if the Aztlan business is serious, you're going to see an intifada there in the not too distant future, and something tells me that Israel will not be the model for the US govts response.

Speaking of Aztlan, check out this website. It draws the analogy that illegals are like Palestinians.

Aztlan If this one doesn't push you over the edge, I don't know what will.

"I carry a gun because it is my responsibility alone - not that of the police, nor the government, nor the community - to defend the precious lives that God has entrusted to me." Will Dougan, writing in gomemphis. 08/17/03

Kind of speechless...I'm a foreign national but I came here legally. Hope you guys are ok with me being on your side when these invaders make push come to shove.

I am 53 and a First Generation American, my Father and my 4 uncles served in WW2, my Grandfather told my mother whne she was 5, you will speak English, we are Americans now, I have two children in the military on Army doing a 2nd tour in Iraq and one going to be a Navy Doc....I am an American First, this is my Land...and their ass needs kicking!

Homeland Security is the American People

You can't see the wind can you? ....But you can feel it and feel it's effects all around you correct? 1GunRunner

Originally Posted By AROptics:Brought to you by Brownbeck (R), Graham (R), DeWine (R), Specter (POS chairman of the Judiciary).

You don't see them pulling that shit in Mex. The ruthless oligarchists ruling Mex would machine gun them down. It would be Tianamen Square reenacted in the Zocalo.

Yep, in Mexico they don't treat illegal immigrants from Guatemala kindly, more like break their legs and don't give them any food or water.

What's this junk Bush was talking about on TV today about some special ID card that will solve all problems with illegals because "they will have to have it to get a job." Companies pay them under the table now and will just continue. We won't know everyone who is in the country because they won't all get the card. This guy is so out of it. Now he is even saying he doesn't want a fence. And his classic line, "they take jobs Americans don't want." I support Bush less and less every day.

Maybe someone should tell all the elitist liberals that promote open and free borders that most of the illegals from mexico are also catholics. Because, as we all know, people who are religious are nothing but racist, bigotted, ignorant morons who's extremist right wing views are dangerous (the "fuck middle America" pic on the other thread comes to mind). That might change their tune a little.

Look at what happened to France, they let the muslims come by the droves, just to support their socialist, entitlement, welfare state. look where it got them. And more riots happened today from their "I deserve everything I want just for being alive" young people. They're pissed off because they want the guarantee that they won't be fired from their jobs regardless of performance.

We are a Republic, we are a government of laws, if the laws are not enforced what do we have?

BTW, I am both catholic and live in middle America. The only things that liberals will ever go against is religion and the morals derived from it, it is the only institution that it is OK to discriminate against in our modern age.

This whole debate blows my mind, We are debating whether or not to enforce the law. Why have the fucking law if it's not going to be enforced?

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:Kind of speechless...I'm a foreign national but I came here legally. Hope you guys are ok with me being on your side when these invaders make push come to shove.

I don't know where you're from, and I don't care, so long as you followed the rules, same as my mom's family, same as my uncle's family, same as everyone else's ancestors at some point.

They are trying to paint us as racists but that's not what we are. Unfortunately, as George Orwell pointed out, he who controls the language controls the thoughts, and he who controls the thoughts wins the war.