Did Plato Believe in Reincarnation?

John S. Uebersax, PhD

Here arguments for and against a Platonic belief in reincarnation are presented.
It is commonly said that Plato had a 'doctrine' of reincarnation.
This is repeated so often that many people simply take it as a given.
The evidence, however, is far from conclusive.
A good case can be made that Plato's references to reincarnation are allegorical.

As the original article presenting this material proved to be quite long, I shall here
present only the main points. The more condensed format assumes the reader is already familiar
with Plato's works. Those who are not may wish to orient themselves by reading
Plato's chariot myth
and the
Myth of Er.

After writing this, I discovered that Marsilio Ficino, in his work, Platonic Theology, also
disputed that Plato believed in reincarnation. Ficino, in fact, used several of the same arguments
given below.

1. Initial Observations

2. The subject is very relevant to our philosophical understanding of the mind and theories of Plato,
and how his works were correctly or incorrectly understood by later thinkers.

3. If a belief in reincarnation is falsely attributed to Plato, then knowing this (after 2400 years!)
may help Platonism be better received or examined by Catholics, other Christians, Jews, and Muslims, who
believe in resurrection.

4. As modern proponents of reincarnation often cite Plato as an authoritative believer, we are further
motivated to understand Plato's true teachings and to correct this perception if it is mistaken.

5. Definitions: we shall here use the words reincarnation and transmigration as synonomous, though one
might make certain distinctions between them.

6. Surprisingly few modern articles or books specifically address this issue. An exception is Ehnmark
(1957). Several books discuss Platonic myths in general (e.g., Stewart, 1905; Frutiger, 1930; Brisson,
1998 & 2004); these are only of partial relevance here since not all of Plato's comments about
reincarnation are presented in myths.

2. Historical Considerations

1. Plato mentions reincarnation and related ideas several times in his works. The main instances occur
(a) in his so-called eschatological myths:

Chariot myth (Phaedr. 246-254)

Myth of Er (Rep. 614-621)

Gorgias myth (Gorg. 523E-527)

Phaedo myth (Phaed. 106E-115A)

and (b) in several other places:

Meno (81)

Cratylus (400)

Phaedo (70C ff., 81C-E )

Timaeus (41D ff., 90-91)

Laws (870D/E, 872E, 881A, 904 ff.)

2. In these examples, Plato never specifically presents reincarnation as his doctrine. Usually
the character of Socrates speaks in a dialogue, calling what he is about to describe a "tale", "myth",
or "tradition", and attributing it to others. (We might also note that our other direct sources of
information about Socrates, namely Xenophon and Aristophanes, never associate Socrates with
reincarnation.)

3. It is often suggested that Plato adopted the doctrine of reincarnation from Egyptians, Pythagoreans,
or others.

4. It does not appear that reincarnation was a standard Egyptian religious belief.
Ritual embalming and numerous inscriptions and texts -- Pyramid texts, coffin texts, the Book of the
Dead (Book of Coming Forth by Day), the Umduat, Book of Gates, etc. -- imply otherwise.

5. Concerning Pythagoras, while it is commonly said that he taught transmigration, this is by no means
certain.
Specific statements about reincarnation attributed to him are questionable; some clearly invite a non-
literal, ironic, or even humorous interpretation (e.g., Xenophanes' remark that Pythagoras recognized
the soul of a friend in a puppy).
The attribution of a belief in reincarnation to Pythagoras may have derived from a misinterpretation of
Pythagorean vegetarianism.

6. Fragments used to show that Empedocles taught reincarnation invite allegorical interpretation. The b
est-known example, fragment 117, "For I have been ere now a boy and a girl, a bush and a bird and a
dumb fish in the sea" does not necessarily refer to reincarnation. Considering the larger context
of Empedocles' philosophy, it could be understood as pantheistic, or else referring to common soul
material of all living things.

7. Concerning Orphics we have little definite knowledge. With justification, one might again suppose
their myths were not intended to be taken literally.

8. Though Aristotle opposed the idea of reincarnation
in De Anima (1.3 407b), he does not ascribe the belief to Plato. Had Plato believed in
reincarnation, Aristotle, his student, would have likely known and thought it worthy of comment.

10. Neoplatonists generally accepted that Plato taught reincarnation, and they believed the doctrine
themselves. However they were divided on the issue of human-to-animal transmigration (see Sorabji, pp.
211-216).

11. Plotinus (fl. 260 AD), the first Neoplatonist, seems to have accepted both human-to-human and
human-to-animal reincarnation (Enneads 1.1.11, 3.4.2, 4.3.8-9, 4.3.12, 5.2.2, 6.7.6-7). Some of
his comments about human-to-animal reincarnation might be metaphorical.

12. According to St. Augustine (City of God, 10.30), Porphyry (fl. 285 AD), who was Plotinus'
student, accepted human-to-human reincarnation, but denied human-to-animal reincarnation. St. Augustine
also testifies that Porphyry, contrary to references of Plato to eternal cycles, believed that a soul,
once purged from evil, could rejoin the Father and never again reincarnate (City of God 12.21,
13.19, and 22.12).

13. The position of Iamblichus (fl. 310 AD), who was Porphyry's student, is clear: Nemesius (Nature
of Man 2, 35, 7-17 Morani) informs us that Iamblichus wrote a treatise with the admirably specific
title, That transmigrations do not occur from men into brute animals nor from brute animals into men
but from animals to animals and men to men.

16. St. Augustine (City of God, 10.30) states that it is most certain (certissimus est)
that Plato wrote that human souls may transmigrate to animal bodies (City of God 10.30; cf.
13.19).

17. In Contra Celsum, it is unclear whether Origen himself associates the doctrine with Plato, or
if he is just referring to Celsus as having made the association. Therefore Origen's own views are
uncertain.

18. St. Clement of Alexandria gives mixed evidence . He devotes several chapters of the
Stromateis (Strom 5.4 - 5.10) to explain the use of allegory by Greek and other 'heathen
writers' (often mentioning Plato) to veil religious doctrine. In Strom 5.9 he states:

"But even those myths in Plato (in the Republic, that of Hero [i.e., Er] the Armenian; and in the
Gorgias, that of Aeacus and Rhadamanthus; and in the Phaedo, that of Tartarus; and in the Protagoras,
that of Prometheus and Epimetheus; and besides these, that of the war between the Atlantini and the
Athenians in the Atlanticum) are to be expounded allegorically, not absolutely in all their expressions,
but in those which express the general sense. And these we shall find indicated by symbols under the
veil of allegory." (ANF02, Roberts & Donaldson, eds.)

Here he specifically refers to Platonic myths that describe reincarnation as allegorical.
However he never explicitly defends Plato against the charge of teaching reincarnation;
if he had thought that Plato didn't believe in reincarnation,
it would seem logical for him to have explicitly refuted this commonly held assumption.

19. We might suppose that like Christians, Islamic philosophers, who greatly admired Plato and knew his
writings, had difficulty with the doctrine of reincarnation.

21. Many modern writers allow that Plato may have meant his references to reincarnation allegorically
(e.g., Halliwell, 2007), but more seem to disagree. A surprising number are willing to dismiss the issue
with a sweeping, unqualified statement like "Plato had a doctrine of reincarnation." This goes with a
general patronizing attitude towards Plato's spirituality that many scholars have taken over the last
100 years or so.

Having considered historical aspects of the issue, we now examine specific arguments for and against the
suggestion that Plato believed in reincarnation.

3. Arguments For

1. Argument 1: Plato does describe reincarnation several times in his works.

2. Argument 2: Plato adopted the idea of reincarnation from Pythagorean contacts, or Egyptians,
or Orphics.

Reply 1: Reincarnation is hardly an original, difficult, metaphysically sophisticated, or esoteric
doctrine. The idea occurs in primitive cultures, and even to children.

Reply 2: Plato would not likely have adopted this or any similar doctrine merely on the testimony of
Pythogoreans or others. A genuine basis for faith in the doctrine, especially for the epistemologically
sophisticated Plato, would be a direct, experiential revelation. Plato gives no evidence of such
personal revelation.

Reply 1. This doesn't seem to be the case with the earliest Platonists.

Reply 2. The Neoplatonist commentators wrote as much as 800-900 years after Plato; this, along with
their dogmatic, religious attitude towards Plato and tendency to scholasticism, raises questions about
the accuracy and objectivity of their testimony.

Reply 3. These same commentators were very inclined to view other Platonic myths and passages as
allegory. Their reluctance to do so with Plato's reincarnation statements again suggests lack of
objectivity. Why did this never occur to them, when they were so meticulous in other matters to
consider all possible views? One might conjecture that in order to compete with the increasingly
dominant Christian religion, they needed a systematic doctrine of the afterlife, and this was provided
by reincarnation.

Reply 4. Patristic authors may have had unconscious motives to under-value or denigrate pagan
philosophy, including Plato. The Apologists wrote in a milieu of attack and defense, in which
exaggeration was common. Persecution and apostasy to pagansim were serious concerns. Further,
associating Plato with reincarnation helped discredit Platonically-influenced heresies like Gnosticism.

Reply 5. As today, the idea of reincarnation may have appealed to a broad base of relatively
unsophisticated people. These may have promoted the idea that Plato believed in reincarnation.
Eventually this may have become taken as 'common knowledge'.

Thus a situation may have existed in which several factions, for different reasons, all contributed to a
false belief that Plato's references to reincarnation were meant literally.

4. Argument 4. Reincarnation is a necessary implication of the doctrine of reminiscence
(anamnesis). That is, Plato believed that people have latent knowledge of the Forms, which can be
remembered. This implies they have seen the Forms previous to this lifetime.

Reply 1. Other explanations, which Plato could easily have thought of, are possible: (a) souls could,
hypothetically, have knowledge revealed in an instant between being created and being placed in bodies;
(b) divine knowledge could radiate from God and illumine the memory, but only be recognizable by a
purified or disencumbered soul (cf. St. Augustine); (c) divine knowledge could reside in the Plotinian
undescended soul (Higher Self), but not be accessible to the descended soul (i.e., the discursive
intellect or 'ego').

Reply 2. Plato's anamnesis argument in Meno and Phaedo does not require previous
incarnations, but only a soul's pre-existence.

4. Arguments Against

Allegory generally

1. Argument 1. We have, in general, good reason to suppose Plato's discussions of reincarnation
were intended allegorically.

Arg. 1.1. By Plato's time, allegory, myth, and poetry were common, if not routine, means of
presenting philosophical ideas. By the sixth century BC, Pherecydes of Syros and Theagenes of Rhegium
took Homer allegorically; they were not likely the first.

Further, psychological symbolism in the Odyssey, such as that of the Sirens, Circe, and the
Lotus Eaters -- which portray general issues of human nature -- seems fairly transparent. This suggests
that Homer himself may have, to a degree, consciously used allegory and symbolism.

The eschatological myths are very reminiscent of shamanic or oracular visions, both known to Greeks (see
Dodds, 1957), and both commonly subjected to symbolic interpretation.

Arg. 1.2. Plato acknowledged the importance of combining different expository styles suited to
the different natures of persons or parts of the soul (Phaedr 277B/C) -- thus as much as
announcing that he does this himself.
Myth is a form of exposition intended for the non-rational parts of the soul -- i.e., not to be taken
literally.

Arg. 1.3. For other Platonic myths allegorical meaning is routinely assumed. The well-known
androgyne myth of Symposium 189C ff., for example, is scarcely to be taken literally. The cicada
myth of Phaed 259, in which singers are supposedly changed into cicadas, is plainly allegorical.
Consider then this chain of reasoning:

The changing of humans to cicadas is allegorical.

Therefore the changing of humans to ants, bees, or wasps (Phaed 82) is also allegorical.

Then the changing of humans to kites or hawks (Phaed 82) is probably allegorical.

Then the changing of Orpheus, Thamyras, and Agamemnon to swan, nightingale, and eagle, respectively
(Rep 10.620), is almost certainly allegorical.

Then, in the very same passage, the becoming of Atalanta, Epeus, and Odysseus an athlete, woman, and
common man, respectively, is probably also allegorical.

Arg. 1.4. If Porphyry, Iamblichus, and other Neoplatonists interpreted human-to-animal
transmigration in Plato as allegory, why would they take human-to-human transmigration references
literally? Should one suppose that Plato switches from allegory to literal mode in mid-sentence?

Arg. 1.5. In Phaedo 79C ff., Socrates contrasts a description of the soul as dragged into
a region where it wanders confused with a superior state of communion with the unchanging, calling the
latter state Wisdom. Here it is clear he refers different mental states, i.e., the difference
between ordinary experience and a higher state of consciousness, using metaphors of physical travel or
migration. Only slightly later, in Phaedo 81, Socrates seems to begin restating the same idea,
but his comments gradually shift to the mention of physical reincarnation. If nothing else, it is not
clear where metaphor ends and doctrine begins. But this also suggests that the entire passage is meant
metaphorically.

Arg. 1.6. In Phaedo 114, Socrates admits not being confident of the exact truth of his
story and suggests only that 'something of the kind is true.'

Existential meaning

2. Argument 2. Plato's reincarnation statements can be plausibly interpreted as expressing
existential and psychological truths. The more meaning they carry as existential allegories, the less
the need to view them literally.

The Phaedrus chariot myth is readily interpretable as an allegory for contemplative ascent
(see Uebersax, 2006a). For comparison, consider Plotinus' famous description of his own contemplative
experiences:

"Many times it has happened: Lifted out of the body into myself; becoming external to all other things
and self-encentered; beholding a marvellous beauty; then, more than ever, assured of community with the
loftiest order; enacting the noblest life, acquiring identity with the divine; stationing within It by
having attained that activity; poised above whatsoever within the Intellectual is less than the Supreme:
yet, there comes the moment of descent from intellection to reasoning, and after that sojourn in the
divine, I ask myself how it happens that I can now be descending, and how did the soul ever enter into
my body, the soul which, even within the body, is the high thing it has shown itself to be."
~Plotinus, Enneads 4.8.1 (Mackenna & Page, trs).

We would expect that Plato, a contemplative himself, would have had similar experiences. If so, he
would be acutely aware of the problem of involuntary descent following such ascent. The chariot myth
can be understood as describing the ascent of the soul by purification of the passions, followed by an
involuntary descent to graded levels of 'embodiment'. Thus, one may fall from contemplation only
slightly, to the mentality of a philosopher or lover of beauty, or further to the mentality of a trader
(one who makes simple compromises with passions), or further still to that of a tyrant (one completely
dominated by passions; Phaedr. 248D/E).

This interpretation fits well with the context of Phaedrus, and the erotically-related passages
interleaved with the myth. An interpretation of literal reincarnation, however, would make little sense
given the context.

Similarly, the Myth of Er seems out of context if understood literally. The entire preceding ten books
of the Republic explore the nature of the soul and its governance. An existential interpretation
of reincarnation, such as that described above, would make much more sense here.

If the chariot and Er myths are existential allegories, other references of Plato to reincarnation,
which are outwardly very similar to these, are also probably also allegories.

It seems very evident that Plato's overarching agenda was one of promoting psychological transformation
(cf. Romans 12:2), making stronger the case for existential and psychological interpretation of Platonic
myths.

Finally, we should note the view of modern psychologists -- for example, Carl Jung, Edward Edinger,
Erich Neumann, and Joseph Campbell -- that eschatological myth always carries deep psychological
meaning. LÚvi-Strauss' works similarly emphasize that myth expresses the structure of the human mind.

Plato's modus operandi

3. Argument 3. The suggestion that Plato had, taught, and wrote down a literal doctrine of
reincarnation is contrary to his modus operandi.

In Phaedrus 275C-278B Plato reveals his attitude about the writing of important matters. His
main points are these:

Only an na´ve person would write or receive writings expecting clear and certain explanation of
important truths.

Written word is necessarily playful and not to be taken very seriously.

At best written words serve only to remind the reader of truths already known.

Such truths pertain only to things like Justice, Goodness, Nobility (i.e., virtues and kindred
Forms) which can be directly apprehended.

Similarly the Seventh Letter (341C/E) and Second Letter (314) claim that serious doctrines
could not and should not be written. Important truths come as sudden insights after prolonged labor.
And even could they be written, to do so would invite mistaken contempt by some and empty pride in
others.

Nowhere does Plato suggest that reincarnation is something his readers may, though prolonged effort,
remember. Even if it could be remembered, such knowledge, which involves complex concepts, would be of
a different epistemological category than the remembering of Forms, which is something more like
perception.

In addition, to promote a doctrine of reincarnation would be contrary to the principle of Socratic
ignorance.
Diogenes Laertius asserts, "About doubtful matters Plato suspended his judgment" (Lives, 3.23).

Inconsistencies, Absurdities, and Difficulties

4. Argument 4. Plato's passages related to reincarnation contain many odd, implausible, and
inconsistent details, implying they were not meant literally. Plato also neglects to consider technical
difficulties of the theory.

a. Why would Orpheus choose to become a swan or Agamemnon an eagle (Rep 10.620)? This requires a
radical suspension of disbelief, a property of fiction. Any reader knows that, realistically, an
animal's life is characterized by hunger, cold, filth and disease, and devouring or being devoured.
Swans and eagles may have good moments, but nobody given the choice would really elect to become one for
more than an hour or day.

b. In Phaedo 82A/B we are told that those who practice social and civic virtues
may become not only men again, which is at least logical, but also bees, ants, and wasps. This makes no
sense at all -- as though to become a social insect would be a reward. We may here perhaps recall
Plato's words in Phaedrus 277E about playful writing.

c. When the Gorgias myth begins, in order to improve judgements, the judged must have their
clothes removed. Then it is said that the judge must also be naked (523E) -- but added is this: "that
is to say, dead -- he [the judge] with his naked soul shall pierce into the other naked souls." This
says plainly that clothing and nakedness are meant allegorically. Should we then not suppose that the
further details of the story are also allegorical?

d. In the same myth, it is said (524A) that when the judges Rhadamanthus or Aeacus are uncertain about a
case, the third judge, Minos, will decide. What if Minos himself is uncertain or wrong? The potential
for incorrect judgments is an
unresolved problem. (And are Rhadamanthus, Aeacus, and Minos, once men themselves, immune to
reincarnation?)

e. In the Phaedo myth, what is the significance of the various rivers and other specific details
of the underworld (Phaed 112 ff.)? Taken literally they seem unlikely, but perhaps they have
psychological significance (Cf. Porphyry, Cave of the Nymphs).

f. The descriptions of Er are implausibly detailed. Are parts of the spindle of Necessity actually
made of steel
(Rep 10.616)? Would there be physical steel in the spiritual realm?

g. The Er myth implies double punishment, first in the underworld and then in an unpropitious new
incarnation. If nothing else, this is inefficient: would not underworld punishments alone purge the
soul?

h. In the same myth, the use of lots to decide who has first choice of available bodies (Rep
10.617E ff.) introduces an element of chance that seems unfair. Of two equally good souls, one may have
to choose a less virtuous next life, thereby incurring greater subsequent punishment after that life.

i. Again in the Er myth, how is it that Er happened to stumble upon the scene at the precise time that
so many famous people were choosing their next lives?

j. More generally, there are obvious technical difficulties with reincarnation that Plato never
addresses. For example, without preservation of memory does the same soul reincarnate? Is ones
identity really preserved? Would punishment be fair unless it is applied to the same 'person' who erred
previously?

k. How could merit or demerit be incurred should a rational soul migrate to the body of an irrational
animal? How could such a soul earn the right to a new human body?

m. In Phaed. 40c Plato says only that after death the soul may migrate to 'another place' but
doesn't mention reincarnation. In Seventh Letter 335A-C the writer mentions judgment and an
unhappy underworld journey for the unjust, but not reincarnation. Crito 54 alludes to what seems
like the standard Greek beliefs about the abode of the dead, Hades.
m. In Phaed. 63 (cf. Phaed 67) Socrates says he is 'persuaded' he is going to join gods
and wise and good souls. He refers to this idea again in Phaed 114. But other times Plato
suggests that cosmic cycles will require even wise and holy souls to reincarnate.
As Porphyry and St. Augustine noted, how could souls enjoy complete bliss knowing they would eventually
return to bodies? Would it be just to make them return?

Plato is likely enough to have himself seen such complications, and also to have anticipated the qualms
of readers.
But his writings, otherwise remarkable for insight and logical complexity, do not mention or address
such issues.

5. Conclusions

1. We have presented background information and various arguments and counter-arguments. From these the
reader may draw his or her own conclusions. All arguments are only probabilistic, and each person will
weight individual facts differently.

Overall, however, the arguments appear more favorable to the view that Plato did not teach
reincarnation, and that his statements on the subject are allegorical. The strongest arguments are
these:

Plato operated in a mileu in which myths were allegorically interpreted.

Taken literally, the passages about reincarnation contain much that is illogical, contradictory, and
silly.

Obvious technical difficulties of reincarnation are never addressed.

Ancient opinions that Plato believed in reincarnation were subject to bias.

The myths about reincarnation are similar in style to other Platonic myths that are clearly
allegorical.

It is difficult to believe that Plato switches from literal to allegorical mode abruptly within the
same passage.

Reincarnation is not necessary for Plato's theory of anamnesis.

Psychological and existential interpretations of Plato's references to reincarnation are more
compelling, especially with the chariot and Er myths; and these passages are sufficiently similar to the
others to suggest that all are allegorical.

Even at the very least the evidence is enough to raise serious doubts that Plato had a doctrine of
reincarnation, and to suggest that the belief should not be attributed to him without acknowledging the
uncertainty.