Uh...so what? Someone is suing because they weren't allowed to handle an infant? Really? Who gives a shiat what reasons the parents had? They're not required to explain their preferences. So they may have bigoted reasons...big deal. Racism happens across every culture. Get the fark over it. It doesn't have to ruin your day.

Spad31:Uh...so what? Someone is suing because they weren't allowed to handle an infant? Really? Who gives a shiat what reasons the parents had? They're not required to explain their preferences. So they may have bigoted reasons...big deal. Racism happens across every culture. Get the fark over it. It doesn't have to ruin your day.

Someone is suing because the hospital should have shown balls and stood up to these assholes.

cman:Spad31: Uh...so what? Someone is suing because they weren't allowed to handle an infant? Really? Who gives a shiat what reasons the parents had? They're not required to explain their preferences. So they may have bigoted reasons...big deal. Racism happens across every culture. Get the fark over it. It doesn't have to ruin your day.

Someone is suing because the hospital should have shown balls and stood up to these assholes.

Because the hospital is making health care decisions based on race. They are telling her, because she is black, she is not qualified to take care of the child.

This

Discrimination laws are quite clear. It is illegal to discriminate solely on the basis of race. When the parents made the request, the hospital should have told the parents to go fark themselves and there was nothing that could be done about it instead of going about breaking the law.

cman:Spad31: Uh...so what? Someone is suing because they weren't allowed to handle an infant? Really? Who gives a shiat what reasons the parents had? They're not required to explain their preferences. So they may have bigoted reasons...big deal. Racism happens across every culture. Get the fark over it. It doesn't have to ruin your day.

Someone is suing because the hospital should have shown balls and stood up to these assholes.

This. The hospital has an obligation to put quality-of-care first, not to indulge some racists childish rodentine feelings. This means making sure that the best qualified people are allowed to do their jobs.

Racists are everywhere, subby. You can't just assume the South is the sole proprietor of these very special people. I grew up in Chicago, and it's one of the most segregated cities I've ever seen. That said, I think it's high time we started treating racism like the mental illness that it is. I mean, you're so full of hate for ________, you don't want them coming into contact with your child? Your brain isn't working correctly. Something's wrong, and it needs to be fixed.

JerseyTim:Remember during the Clinton administration when the Michigan Militia was all the rage? How come those dudes didn't make a big Obama comeback?

They kind of did make a comeback, in that they were accused of planning to overthrow the US government and arrested. The judge acquitted them last year because, well, the people in the mugshots don't really represent a serious threat to the USA.

The guy is a horrible human being, but the nurse is a dumbass for suing her employer for sidelining her. They did her a huge favor by acquiescing. And I'd tell her that to her face, because I'm an Internet Tough Guy.

Seriously, if the hospital had let her care for the child, we'd be reading that she was murdered and so was the child after being "tainted by the darkies." This deeply troubles me in a lot of ways.

They exist in Michigan. Most of them are stealth bigots. These are people who seem fine, until one day something happens on the news. Suddenly you get an earful about their opinions on an ethnicity, gender, religion, etc. I assume this is like any other state, really.

This is a special case. Here's a guy with a swastika tattoo, and he chooses to live in one of the most diverse cities in Michigan. This is like hating Macbooks and working at Starbucks. My only hope is that the baby grows up to realize his parents are full of it.

ajgeek:The guy is a horrible human being, but the nurse is a dumbass for suing her employer for sidelining her. They did her a huge favor by acquiescing. And I'd tell her that to her face, because I'm an Internet Tough Guy.

Seriously, if the hospital had let her care for the child, we'd be reading that she was murdered and so was the child after being "tainted by the darkies." This deeply troubles me in a lot of ways.

Because the hospital is making health care decisions based on race. They are telling her, because she is black, she is not qualified to take care of the child.

No, they aren't they are telling her that, they are telling her that they are accommodating a parent of a juvenile patient. It's not any stupider than the people who think they will go to hell if they get a blood transfusion..

vpb:MBK: Spad31: O RRY? You're going to have to explain in detail why.

Because the hospital is making health care decisions based on race. They are telling her, because she is black, she is not qualified to take care of the child.

No, they aren't they are telling her that, they are telling her that they are accommodating a parent of a juvenile patient. It's not any stupider than the people who think they will go to hell if they get a blood transfusion..

Yes it is stupider.

How is demanding that an African-American not handle your newborn considered to be "reasonable"? It isn't.

GreenAdder:They exist in Michigan. Most of them are stealth bigots. These are people who seem fine, until one day something happens on the news. Suddenly you get an earful about their opinions on an ethnicity, gender, religion, etc. I assume this is like any other state, really.

This is a special case. Here's a guy with a swastika tattoo, and he chooses to live in one of the most diverse cities in Michigan. This is like hating Macbooks and working at Starbucks. My only hope is that the baby grows up to realize his parents are full of it.

Actually, this surprised me a bit. Not that there are racists around, but him even letting his kid be born at Hurley. We're not talking barely on the edge of Flint, we're talking downtown less than a mile from MLK part of Flint. This guy is most likely from Burton and so it surprises me he didn't go to Genesis Hospital in Grand Blanc. Would be the same distance from him, although Hurley does have a better staff for more severe cases. They don't call it Burtucky for nothin'.

Race as a social construct for organizing people is not a universal. It's historical construct that you see in many societies, but it is not a defining characteristic in many places. I think you could argue that there are socially-based hierarchies in all societies, but not necessarily racial ones.

cman:How is demanding that an African-American not handle your newborn considered to be "reasonable"? It isn't.

It's not, but did this nurse lose her job or lose wages or get passed over for a promotion? I'm trying to figure out what, apart from being rightfully pissed off, she suffered as a consequence that is actionable under discrimination laws. I wonder if she made an EEOC claim yet.

Race as a social construct for organizing people is not a universal. It's historical construct that you see in many societies, but it is not a defining characteristic in many places. I think you could argue that there are socially-based hierarchies in all societies, but not necessarily racial ones.

Racism is based upon fear. Fear is a primitive emotion. What is different could be dangerous and this is programmed into all of us. However, it is up to us on how we deal with it. We humans have the ability of complex thought and can override our instincts. Human nature must first change before bigotry can be eliminated.

Nabb1:cman: How is demanding that an African-American not handle your newborn considered to be "reasonable"? It isn't.

It's not, but did this nurse lose her job or lose wages or get passed over for a promotion? I'm trying to figure out what, apart from being rightfully pissed off, she suffered as a consequence that is actionable under discrimination laws. I wonder if she made an EEOC claim yet.

It creates an hostile work environment. Not only that the nurse would also suffer from embarrassment of being deemed not good enough to nurse due to her race.

cman:Nabb1: cman: How is demanding that an African-American not handle your newborn considered to be "reasonable"? It isn't.

It's not, but did this nurse lose her job or lose wages or get passed over for a promotion? I'm trying to figure out what, apart from being rightfully pissed off, she suffered as a consequence that is actionable under discrimination laws. I wonder if she made an EEOC claim yet.

It creates an hostile work environment. Not only that the nurse would also suffer from embarrassment of being deemed not good enough to nurse due to her race.

Maybe. It was one month, one patient. Throw some cost-of-defense money at it, give her a formal apology and get rid of it.

What makes this nazi look even more stupid is, historically back in the slave trade days, some slaves were trained as midwives and nurses. If he learned to read, he would have known this and RN on her name tag meant an educated professional. Other than long wait time in the pediatric after hours clinic(not unusual), I never had a problem with Hurley. Didn't care for Genesis, never dealt with McClaren( I don't think they have a maternity ward), so his kid was better off at Hurley in spite of this guy and his sister/cousin.

I don't think this will hurt the nurse's career, and I hope she gets her point made.

Spad31:Uh...so what? Someone is suing because they weren't allowed to handle an infant? Really? Who gives a shiat what reasons the parents had? They're not required to explain their preferences. So they may have bigoted reasons...big deal. Racism happens across every culture. Get the fark over it. It doesn't have to ruin your day.

Make racism illegal, seriously. Its time to just end that bullshiat and let everyone get on with the future. Make it illegal, imprison idiots who are blatant about it. And make damn sure your black president is the one to sign the order, just for the lulz.

A nurse is suing a Michigan hospital for allegedly acquiescing to a man's race-based request that no African-Americans be involved in his baby's care.

The lawsuit accuses managers at Hurley Medical Center in Flint of reassigning Tonya Battle based on the color of her skin.

/Ok, sure, that is a asshole move on managements part, but you are their employee, the customer is who's paying, and you go where they tell you to go. it's not like you lost money or got laid off or were demoted. Just because you don't like the reason they moved you, doesn't mean its against the law, or you're going to be able to cash in. Nice try though, come back later if you actually have a valid discrimination complaint that cost you money.

Nabb1:cman: How is demanding that an African-American not handle your newborn considered to be "reasonable"? It isn't.

It's not, but did this nurse lose her job or lose wages or get passed over for a promotion? I'm trying to figure out what, apart from being rightfully pissed off, she suffered as a consequence that is actionable under discrimination laws. I wonder if she made an EEOC claim yet.

You don't really understand the concept of "ethical standards", do you?