That's just absurd logic. Tebow was on his 2nd year cam 1. The definition of a rookie is Zero experience at being a professional, regardless if youre sitting the bench or playing.

I'm more interested in practical comparisons vs NFL technical definitions. Tebow played 3 games last year under a different coach. Once given a new coach, he was subsequently locked out and completely unable to work with the new coach until late in the offseason, at which point another quarterback was chosen to work with our starting offense.

Rookie as a general term can be defined as a person with little experience. MLB for instance counts you as a rookie until you have a certain number of at bats. As an example, Derek Jeter debuted for the Yankees in 1995, but won Rookie of the Year in 1996. And yet the Drunkmeister cried no tears, nor were any calls of 'shenanigans' forthcoming.

For those of you who keep insisting on the Mane that Bowlen is broke, might as well bow out of the "Broncos are interested in Manning" argument, because it is going to take a boatload of money to land him.

It would be a big contradiction to scream Bowlen is broke on one hand, and then actually believe that the Broncos have a serious interest in Manning. I know, you know, and certainly EFX knows, that Manning is not going to give his services away. The Skins will make sure of it. You can take that to the bank.

I'm more interested in practical comparisons vs NFL technical definitions. Tebow played 3 games last year under a different coach. Once given a new coach, he was subsequently locked out and completely unable to work with the new coach until late in the offseason, at which point another quarterback was chosen to work with our starting offense.

Rookie as a general term can be defined as a person with little experience. MLB for instance counts you as a rookie until you have a certain number of at bats. As an example, Derek Jeter debuted for the Yankees in 1995, but won Rookie of the Year in 1996. And yet the Drunkmeister cried no tears, nor were any calls of 'shenanigans' forthcoming.

In the MLB they hit a ball with a bat. That's why it is a DIFFERENT sport. In the NFL after their rookie year (which is they year they are drafted), they are no longer a rookie. If you need more proof of this then ask yourself why has no second year NFL player ever won the NFL rookie of the year.

are you really this stupid? Beavis and I were discussing the Bills game..he mentioned 75% completion rate during the 1st half of the game...i mentioned that is skewed since its only on 4 attempts and questioned why that is good...i used an EXAMPLE of going 3-3, or 20-20, which completion rate is better....then someone asked doesnt the win matter more than the rate, so i said sure, BUFFALO WON.....then you assumed 20-20 happened in the buffalo game....

So why didn't you just say yes when I asked if that is where the conversation got to complicated for you? It clearly is where you got lost. Your "Buffalo won" comment made no sense unless Buffalo went 20/20. The fact that you just went over it, and still don't get this, only proves how retarded you are.

In the MLB they hit a ball with a bat. That's why it is a DIFFERENT sport. In the NFL after their rookie year (which is they year they are drafted), they are no longer a rookie. If you need more proof of this then ask yourself why has no second year NFL player ever won the NFL rookie of the year.

Yup, and Aaron Rodgers smokes cock because in his 4th season he went 6-10 with a 13-3 team that went to OT in the Championship Game the year before.

So why didn't you just say yes when I asked if that is where the conversation got to complicated for you? It clearly is where you got lost. Your "Buffalo won" comment made no sense unless Buffalo went 20/20. The fact that you just went over it, and still don't get this, only proves how retarded you are.

jumping into a conversation where you clearly lacked the intelligence of the other 2 people may have more to do with this..

For those of you who keep insisting on the Mane that Bowlen is broke, might as well bow out of the "Broncos are interested in Manning" argument, because it is going to take a boatload of money to land him.

It would be a big contradiction to scream Bowlen is broke on one hand, and then actually believe that the Broncos have a serious interest in Manning. I know, you know, and certainly EFX knows, that Manning is not going to give his services away. The Skins will make sure of it. You can take that to the bank.

Yep. And he perception is they want Tebow gone and KC has a boner for him. So drive up the price.

For those of you who keep insisting on the Mane that Bowlen is broke, might as well bow out of the "Broncos are interested in Manning" argument, because it is going to take a boatload of money to land him.

It would be a big contradiction to scream Bowlen is broke on one hand, and then actually believe that the Broncos have a serious interest in Manning. I know, you know, and certainly EFX knows, that Manning is not going to give his services away. The Skins will make sure of it. You can take that to the bank.

this is where the "how much does Manning want to win a SB" discussion lies....would he take less money for a team that has a chance, like Arizona or Seattle, or take more money and go to a team that is a complete disaster, like miami and washington, knowing a SB is out of reach....