Aviators sit in the shade of their weatherbeaten, fabric-covered biplanes, exchange hangar talk and tell stories of their barnstorming days before they take to the air again and fly toward the setting sun ....

A "707" in a gray military livery passes overhead on the South downwind at Flyover International Airport. It appears to be half as high as normal, and not a bit larger than the Southwest 737-many-hundred-more-than-the-original that passes a few minutes later in-trail.

It was in "low-power-descent-mode" and too far away to hear and I didn't have my Nikon D-100 nor Cannon 236A with a telephalloto lens to capture and discern the power units.

Can you elaborate on the procedural differences of the autoshooter mode of the Canon 236A versus the 200?

Note: Your post above is the first non-3BS post in this particular sub-forum since 11/7/2009.

I find it strange that Blueblie did not post here

Perhaps you can describe nice days of yard work and views of departing F-27's...RR's are another beautiful, largely-historic sound.

I don't have a yard (nor 0.9144 meters ), so no yard work for me.
While living with Mommy (and while staying with her after my total bike disaster!!!! ) I could sometims see airthingies departing Morón air base, but distance makes them difficult to identify, except for when they pass over her house (like the previously mentioned F27 did).
On May 1st, 2008, there was an air exhibition at Morón and, to my delight, gravity-defying machinery flew repeatedly "close" to Mommy's. Of course it would have been better to learn of the exhibition beforehand so I could have assisted . I took a crapload of horrible pictures with my point-and-shoot camera and its crappy zoom.

Four C130s

The C130s plus two F27s:

The F27s:

Eight IA-58 Pucarás:

These "dust sopts" are eight trainers. Apparently four EMB-312 Tucanos and four T-34/B-45 Mentors:

A B-17 passed about 1/2 mile North of the house on a final approach to the "corporate reliever" airport.

I'm envious!

My house is boring in that respect. I could sometimes see a Cessna Skymaster that used to fly daily over my neighbourhood from my bathroom's window, that's all. And trains . My cats love seeing them and beg me to pick them up soy they can see them through the window.

(That is a temporary station while the real one -two blocks from my house- is undergoing repairs).

A "707" in a gray military livery passes overhead on the South downwind at Flyover International Airport. It appears to be half as high as normal, and not a bit larger than the Southwest 737-many-hundred-more-than-the-original that passes a few minutes later in-trail.

A "707" in a gray military livery passes overhead on the South downwind at Flyover International Airport. It appears to be half as high as normal, and not a bit larger than the Southwest 737-many-hundred-more-than-the-original that passes a few minutes later in-trail.

I doubt it was a 707.

Indeed.

It looked very much like a 707, but the all-gray lively made me think I should include some quote marks.

Blue skies, 50-degree temperatures and I am in the yard spreading some mulch over lunch.

I see A C-130 pass three times practicing full ILS approaches to runway 26L at the Spirit of Flyover Airport.*

Fortunately the banks were all gentle.

*Footnote: There are many assumptions: I think it was one C-130 as I saw it outbound once, pretty much on the extended centerline, but maybe there were multiple C-130's (4 total flybys witnessed, 3 inbound, 1 outbound.)

...as to whether it was ILS, LOC, NDB, GPS or RNav I don't know nor am I sure of the "full approach" deal.

Mostly sunny, deep blue skies and 75F. Planted some veggies in the garden. Drove past the Spirit of Flyover airport and caught the Blue Angels practicing for tomorrow's air show. I maintained decent SA and did not have a total driving disaster.

Indeed. Pesticides and synthetic fertilizers are involved, as is the raping of the soil with greenhouse-gas-producing rototillers. Plus, my mere existence as a human is bad for the environment.

...That being said, my impact may pale compared to the six fighter jets burning both Jet fuel AND massive quantities of smoke-producing oil solely for the entertainment of xenophobic, environment killing Americans?

Nice! Did they appear to be following procedures, or were flying cowboyishly?

I would ass-ume (which is the normal way of an ass-hat discussion forum):

...that this is one of those beautiful topics of woven grayness between black and white.

I ass-ume, these are likely pilotos del genio super!

I ass-ume they can beat up Evan (and perhaps even Flyboy) on their knowledge and execution of procedures.

I ass-ume they know and love fundamental basics, recognize that there comes a point where you can pull up too much, that you should watch your instruments.

I ass-ume that a large number of 'normal' procedures were violated for the sake of cowboy showmanship- I don't think low passes, formation flying, speeds above 250 knots, loops are normally allowed in Class D airspace...

...on the other hand, I don't doubt that special procedures and exceptions were formally in effect for these activities...

...AND...THAT being said, would you still say that there's a statistically higher risk with their cowboy showmanship versus more typical conservative operations?

Indeed. Pesticides and synthetic fertilizers are involved, as is the raping of the soil with greenhouse-gas-producing rototillers. Plus, my mere existence as a human is bad for the environment.

...That being said, my impact may pale compared to the six fighter jets burning both Jet fuel AND massive quantities of smoke-producing oil solely for the entertainment of xenophobic, environment killing Americans?

I blame America for global warming and the destruction of nature.

...AND...THAT being said, would you still say that there's a statistically higher risk with their cowboy showmanship versus more typical conservative operations?

I don't know... But I really hope that they are flying computer assisted, fly-by-wire, modern 21st century planes able to counteract pilot idiocy and impede risky, unnecessary cowboy show-off manoeuvres, so everyone can enjoy a nice, delightful show of planes taking off, climbing, leveling, descending and landingsafely.

Two Cowboy Monkey pilots fly over 3BS's back yard in cheap composite crackerboxes screwing around with much Tomfoolery and near zero airspeed too...it's a wonder they didn't stall, as they improvisationally revved up and kill their engines which is the type specific procedure to address stalls.

BUT, worse yet, they have a near-midair collision with a business jet. Certainly they should have steered away from the fast-moving jet!