The results of "Intelligent Design" ??Not that weed is so hard to get in TX, it is just that possession of any of it will send you to jail forever.Hell, in Texas they might just decide to fast-track you an execution for smoking 'devil' weed.

Dr. James d'Etienne of Dallas' Baylor Medical Center said that "several of [the patients] came in with similar symptoms of psychosis, altered mental status, abnormal behavior." ... K2 is designed by the chemists who create it to give users a high that is similar to weed.

Well, when you make the real thing illegal, and difficult to find compared to being able to go to the local head shop and/or hopping online, then yes, you're going to end up with more of this sort of thing. There is no end to legal substances that can get you high, and as you ban one, another is already in the pipeline. But, as you continue down that path, you'll find there's less and less known about the new substance(s), and that the side effects are progressively scarier and more dangerous.

And, you're stupid if you believe that people will just give up on getting high. It's not going to happen.

Let's consider two scenarios. Scenario A: You smoked too much pot, start getting panicky, go to the hospital. If you fess up and admit to what you consumed, they can give you some saline, maybe give you something to calm your nerves. Everything's fine. Scenario B: You bought some herbal thing off the Internet, consumed too much, now your heart is racing and you're drifting in and out of reality. You go to the hospital. Guess what? The hospital is just guessing at how to treat you. They've never heard of this herb, can't verify that's what you actually consumed, and don't know enough about how to treat an overdose to actually effectively keep things from getting worse.

Every last person who is out there fighting against legalization of marijuana or sitting around complacent/apathetic/whatever and not actively voting out the fark heads in the government who keep marijuana illegal are entirely, 100% to blame for these kinds of deaths. End of story.

doglover:Somaticasual: That's 120 more than would have everoverdosed on you know, the regular kind...

Marjuana is many things, but barring some major allergy you're looking at very low chance of overdose given the LD50. Not even a Cheech and Chong style jumbo sized blunt could do it.

I'm sure you could inject or drink enough of the concentrated and cooked active ingredients with a chemistry lab and a lot of effort, but straight leaf is impossible to die from. "Impossible" is a pretty heavy word, yet still applies.

Archfeld:The results of "Intelligent Design" ??Not that weed is so hard to get in TX, it is just that possession of any of it will send you to jail forever.Hell, in Texas they might just decide to fast-track you an execution for smoking 'devil' weed.

Possession of Marijuana is a "Cite and Release" offense in Texas. The officer can write you a ticket and not even take you to jail. You ain't from around here I take it?

Not in the slightest. The first time I visited Illinois I was farking shocked at how hard it is to find and how much it costs. Around the DFW you can pick up an O for like $60 on just about any corner in Deep Ellum or off Lower Greenville.

MrHappyRotter:Well, when you make the real thing illegal, and difficult to find compared to being able to go to the local head shop and/or hopping online, then yes, you're going to end up with more of this sort of thing. There is no end to legal substances that can get you high, and as you ban one, another is already in the pipeline. But, as you continue down that path, you'll find there's less and less known about the new substance(s), and that the side effects are progressively scarier and more dangerous.

And, you're stupid if you believe that people will just give up on getting high. It's not going to happen.

Let's consider two scenarios. Scenario A: You smoked too much pot, start getting panicky, go to the hospital. If you fess up and admit to what you consumed, they can give you some saline, maybe give you something to calm your nerves. Everything's fine. Scenario B: You bought some herbal thing off the Internet, consumed too much, now your heart is racing and you're drifting in and out of reality. You go to the hospital. Guess what? The hospital is just guessing at how to treat you. They've never heard of this herb, can't verify that's what you actually consumed, and don't know enough about how to treat an overdose to actually effectively keep things from getting worse.

Every last person who is out there fighting against legalization of marijuana or sitting around complacent/apathetic/whatever and not actively voting out the fark heads in the government who keep marijuana illegal are entirely, 100% to blame for these kinds of deaths. End of story.

Nope. The people putting a substance into their own body are to blame. Personal responsibility, how does it work? If you don't want to end up in hospital don't do the drug.

MrHappyRotter:Well, when you make the real thing illegal, and difficult to find compared to being able to go to the local head shop and/or hopping online, then yes, you're going to end up with more of this sort of thing. There is no end to legal substances that can get you high, and as you ban one, another is already in the pipeline. But, as you continue down that path, you'll find there's less and less known about the new substance(s), and that the side effects are progressively scarier and more dangerous.

And, you're stupid if you believe that people will just give up on getting high. It's not going to happen.

Let's consider two scenarios. Scenario A: You smoked too much pot, start getting panicky, go to the hospital. If you fess up and admit to what you consumed, they can give you some saline, maybe give you something to calm your nerves. Everything's fine. Scenario B: You bought some herbal thing off the Internet, consumed too much, now your heart is racing and you're drifting in and out of reality. You go to the hospital. Guess what? The hospital is just guessing at how to treat you. They've never heard of this herb, can't verify that's what you actually consumed, and don't know enough about how to treat an overdose to actually effectively keep things from getting worse.

Every last person who is out there fighting against legalization of marijuana or sitting around complacent/apathetic/whatever and not actively voting out the fark heads in the government who keep marijuana illegal are entirely, 100% to blame for these kinds of deaths. End of story.

LiberalConservative:MrHappyRotter: Well, when you make the real thing illegal, and difficult to find compared to being able to go to the local head shop and/or hopping online, then yes, you're going to end up with more of this sort of thing. There is no end to legal substances that can get you high, and as you ban one, another is already in the pipeline. But, as you continue down that path, you'll find there's less and less known about the new substance(s), and that the side effects are progressively scarier and more dangerous.

And, you're stupid if you believe that people will just give up on getting high. It's not going to happen.

Let's consider two scenarios. Scenario A: You smoked too much pot, start getting panicky, go to the hospital. If you fess up and admit to what you consumed, they can give you some saline, maybe give you something to calm your nerves. Everything's fine. Scenario B: You bought some herbal thing off the Internet, consumed too much, now your heart is racing and you're drifting in and out of reality. You go to the hospital. Guess what? The hospital is just guessing at how to treat you. They've never heard of this herb, can't verify that's what you actually consumed, and don't know enough about how to treat an overdose to actually effectively keep things from getting worse.

Every last person who is out there fighting against legalization of marijuana or sitting around complacent/apathetic/whatever and not actively voting out the fark heads in the government who keep marijuana illegal are entirely, 100% to blame for these kinds of deaths. End of story.

Nope. The people putting a substance into their own body are to blame. Personal responsibility, how does it work? If you don't want to end up in hospital don't do the drug.