Just carry on believing the BS Dana is feeding you about his fighters been the best, 3 fights was it, 3 MMA fights and Brock was given there title, wow what a proven world beater they had there. before that did a 45 year old man who was really a LHW not win there title, wow such credit guess he must be the greatest fighter ever hay and define the law of ageing lol.

2 real fighters enter the UFC and walk through it with ease, now there can cruching is over the only thing left is for them to fight each other and thats it UFC HW division is left woth nothing.

why would you want to have to watch the best HW's in the world on PPV anyway when SF give you them for free? you already lost all the best FW and BM fights, now they are nothing more than pre-lims on the under card to UFC events that few will ever see again.

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Originally Posted by Danm2501

That shot that spun Brock round landed on the nerve in the chin, completely destroying his equilibrium. It doesn't matter how short a shot it is, when you get caught there by a 240lb man you're going to lose your equilibrium and then your footing. Also, Brock showed superb control and jiu jitsu defence in the 2nd fight with Mir, and Mir has a much more dangerous guard than Alistair. You do not want Brock Lesnar on top of you, no matter who you are, and I think Brock could get Alistair down.

That shot that spun Brock round landed on the nerve in the chin, completely destroying his equilibrium. It doesn't matter how short a shot it is, when you get caught there by a 240lb man you're going to lose your equilibrium and then your footing. Also, Brock showed superb control and jiu jitsu defence in the 2nd fight with Mir, and Mir has a much more dangerous guard than Alistair. You do not want Brock Lesnar on top of you, no matter who you are, and I think Brock could get Alistair down.

Brock has a superb shot, and a shot more than good enough to take Alistair down. His wrestling is not over-rated, he just met someone in Cain that has equal wrestling to him, and the wrestling in that fight was equal. 2 takedowns attempted each, 1 successful each. Also, if he didn't have heart, how come he survived that mauling from Carwin? If Brock wasn't a fighter and had no heart, surely he'd have just quit as soon as Carwin was on top of him smashing him in the face? Brock showed composure, heart and a chin in that fight. Cain just happened to land some massive shots on Lesnar, that knee would have buckled anyone. You're hugely under-rating Brock Lesnar.

Also LOL @ Duffee's stand up being better than Mir's. Mir out-struck Big Nog, knocked Kongo down; yet Duffee got KTFO by Mike Russow and finished in 19 seconds by Overeem. Not a chance his stand-up is better than Mir's, let alone much better.

Nelson no tougher than Werdum or Big Foot? =/ Did you watch Nelson vs JDS? We know Werdum can't take those sorts of shots from JDS, and Big Foot got badly rocked by Kyle, JDS would put him away.

LOL @ Trigg. This has been a great broadcast, really enjoyable stuff.

Are you serious? About Duffees stand up? Come on man. You're going to judge some ones stand up on the basis of one flash KO, when the other fighter was getting absolutely dominated and picked apart on the feet for 98 percent of the fight? Have you watched any of Duffees other fights? Thats like saying Robbie lawler is a beter striker than Melvin Manhouef.

His boxing technique and speed is far superior to Mirs. Mirs stand up is slow and sloppy. Duffee is a good boxer and was being built up to be the next big thing in the HW division. You cant suddenly discredit his striking because of one flash KO.

And what are you talking about. equeal wrestling?!!! Cain outclassed Brock in MMA wrestling. One take down a piece LOL. Cain took Brock down, rode the back for a while and GNP'd his head in. Brock took cain down and cain immediately spring back up to his feet.

Both carwin and couture also neutralised Brocks wrestling. Cain outclassed Brock in wrestling.

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Originally Posted by Danm2501

That shot that spun Brock round landed on the nerve in the chin, completely destroying his equilibrium. It doesn't matter how short a shot it is, when you get caught there by a 240lb man you're going to lose your equilibrium and then your footing. Also, Brock showed superb control and jiu jitsu defence in the 2nd fight with Mir, and Mir has a much more dangerous guard than Alistair. You do not want Brock Lesnar on top of you, no matter who you are, and I think Brock could get Alistair down.

Brock has a superb shot, and a shot more than good enough to take Alistair down. His wrestling is not over-rated, he just met someone in Cain that has equal wrestling to him, and the wrestling in that fight was equal. 2 takedowns attempted each, 1 successful each. Also, if he didn't have heart, how come he survived that mauling from Carwin? If Brock wasn't a fighter and had no heart, surely he'd have just quit as soon as Carwin was on top of him smashing him in the face? Brock showed composure, heart and a chin in that fight. Cain just happened to land some massive shots on Lesnar, that knee would have buckled anyone. You're hugely under-rating Brock Lesnar.

Also LOL @ Duffee's stand up being better than Mir's. Mir out-struck Big Nog, knocked Kongo down; yet Duffee got KTFO by Mike Russow and finished in 19 seconds by Overeem. Not a chance his stand-up is better than Mir's, let alone much better.

Nelson no tougher than Werdum or Big Foot? =/ Did you watch Nelson vs JDS? We know Werdum can't take those sorts of shots from JDS, and Big Foot got badly rocked by Kyle, JDS would put him away.

Of course I've seen Duffee's other fights. His stand-up is good, but it is not much better than Mir. Mir has out-struck far better guys than anyone Duffee has fought outside Alistair. He put a striking clinic on against Nogueira and had the perfect gameplan to out-strike Cheick Kongo, who is a superb kickboxer. The Russow example was just a quick point, he was looking good up until that point, but it was still Mike Russow, not exactly high level competition. Mir's Boxing is excellent, and he's proven that against some excellent strikers.

No, of course I'm not saying Mir could stand with Alistair. I'm not a moron. My initial point was about Mir being a better version of Werdum. Mir has a sick guard. It's not quite as good as Werdum's, but the gap in the stand-up is far larger than the gap in grappling. At no point did I claim Mir could stand with Overeem.

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Originally Posted by KillerShark1985

Just carry on believing the BS Dana is feeding you about his fighters been the best, 3 fights was it, 3 MMA fights and Brock was given there title, wow what a proven world beater they had there. before that did a 45 year old man who was really a LHW not win there title, wow such credit guess he must be the greatest fighter ever hay and define the law of ageing lol.

2 real fighters enter the UFC and walk through it with ease, now there can cruching is over the only thing left is for them to fight each other and thats it UFC HW division is left woth nothing.

why would you want to have to watch the best HW's in the world on PPV anyway when SF give you them for free? you already lost all the best FW and BM fights, now they are nothing more than pre-lims on the under card to UFC events that few will ever see again.

Absolute drivel. This sort of stuff is on a par with ZUFFA Zombies, if not worse. I would break it down point by point, but there's no point. Take your Anti-Dana Glasses off and look at things objectively. Strikeforce's HW division is stupidly over-rated. Outside Overeem and Fedor they have nothing. The only other SF HW that would scrape into the Top 10 would be Werdum, and then he'd get wrecked stylistically by pretty much everyone in that Top 10, especially the guys I've put above him.

Cain
JDS
Overeem
Fedor
Brock
Nelson
Mir
Werdum
Nogueira
Struve

Guy, look at where the left hand lands, it's a stiff shot right on the button. That messes up your equilibrium. Some dude broke it down technically on here just after the fight. Brock going into a twist wasn't because he has no heart or chin, that shot completely ****ed with his equilibrium.

Really CBA with this anymore though. Let's get back to the Dynamite!! show. Sakuraba's about to get KTFO by Zaromskis sadly.