Please note: we have been online over ten years, and we want The Trek BBS to continue as a free site. But if you block our ads we are at risk.Please consider unblocking ads for this site - every ad you view counts and helps us pay for the bandwidth that you are using. Thank you for your understanding.

Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.

I initially thought it was a new character until somewhere Bob Ocri or one of the other writers said Benedict Cumberbatch played a character from established canon.

I never, for one second, thought it would be Khan. Gary Mitchell seemed more credible, and I thought what little evidence there was had been mounting more toward that direction, but I wouldn't have been surprised if it wasn't.

I'm just going to assume it's "John Harrison" and the name is what it is. Sounds English enough. If it's not, if it's another red herring, oh well.

EDIT: I did send a text to my brother jokingly saying "JOOOOHHHHNNNN!!!!" in reference to TWOK but that was just something that popped into my head after someone said "The Wrath of John Harrison" doesn't have the same ring to it. Kind of funny actually. Like "The Wrath of Bob".

I expected the conversation around The Villain of the Piece to ratchet up following the announcement of the name John Harrison. But that doesn't seem to be happening.

Have we all just decieded, “oh, screw it: we’ll find out at the premiere,” or what?

I think the issue is simply that over the last few months, so many people here thought the villain was going to be Khan, or Gary Mitchell, or Garth, or Kor, or [fill in blank with TOS villain name]. Now that it's John Harrison, a new character whom nobody knows anything about, there's really nothing to speculate about anymore, other than that he seems to be a Starfleet officer and a terrorist. What else is there to say?

…EDIT: I did send a text to my brother jokingly saying "JOOOOHHHHNNNN!!!!" in reference to TWOK but that was just something that popped into my head after someone said "The Wrath of John Harrison" doesn't have the same ring to it. Kind of funny actually. Like "The Wrath of Bob".

I expected the conversation around The Villain of the Piece to ratchet up following the announcement of the name John Harrison. But that doesn't seem to be happening.

Have we all just decieded, “oh, screw it: we’ll find out at the premiere,” or what?

There is a thread here where someone is claiming a studio insider suggested who John Harrison is an alias for.

But also, I think people are sick of being dicked around bay Bad Robot on this issue, as reflected with this article. Best quote to perfectly sum everything up:

We can't do that without a name, and here's the crazy part — the name barely matters! If I could tell Joe "The Enterprise crew fights Gary Mitchell/Harry Mudd/The Mugatu/Whoever" — the actual name barely matters. The names won't mean anything to regular people anyway. But it'll still be a hell of a lot more interesting than "The Enterprise crew fights... somebody."

Now that we knw his name, there is virtually no more speculation as to who Cumberbatch is playing. Before we were told his name, the speculation ran the gamut from Khan, Charlie X, Gary Mitchell, Gary Seven, Kang, Arne Darvin -- and even Trelane. However, now we know he is some guy named John Harrison.

As for his motives, again speculation of the villain's MO was all over the place, depending on who it was thought the character might be. Now we know a little more about the character, and there is a lot less speculation.

I think the speculation will again begin to pick up once people start considering what John Harrison may be all worked up about, or when we find out more about the plot (such as if London was destroyed and when, plus what Harrison's relationship is to our Heroes).

__________________ Walk into splintered sunlight,
Inch your way through dead dreams
to another land.