First Congress Member Allowed to Read Secret Treaty Says “There Is No National Security Purpose In Keeping This Text Secret … This Agreement Hands The Sovereignty of Our Country Over to Corporate Interests”

Corporations Push to Overrule National Laws

Democratic Senator Wyden – the head of the committee which is supposed to oversee it – is so furious about the lack of access that he has introduced legislation to force disclosure.

Republican House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa is so upset by it that he has leaked a document on his website to show what’s going on.

What is everyone so furious about?

An international treaty being negotiated in secret which would not only crack down on Internet privacy much more than SOPA or ACTA, but would actually destroy the sovereignty of the U.S. and all other signatories.

It is called the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).

Wyden is the chairman of the trade committee in the Senate … the committee which is supposed to have jurisdiction over the TPP. Wyden is also on the Senate Intelligence Committee, and so he and his staff have high security clearances and are normally able to look at classified documents.

And yet Wyden and his staff have been denied access to the TPP’s text.

Indeed, the decision to keep the text of TPP secret was itself classified as secret:

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(I have also received a tip from a credible inside source that TPP contains provisions which would severely harm America’s national security. Specifically, like some previous, ill-conceived treaties, TPP would allow foreign companies to buy sensitive American assets which could subject us to terror attacks or economic blackmail.)

Last month, 10,000 of us submitted comments to the United States Trade Representative (USTR), in which we objected to new so-called free trade agreements. We asked that the government not sell out our democracy to corporate interests.

Because of this pressure, the USTR finally let a member of Congress – little ole me, Alan Grayson [anyone who’s seen Grayson in action knows that he is formidable] – actually see the text of the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). The TPP is a large, secret trade agreement that is being negotiated with many countries in East Asia and South America.

The TPP is nicknamed “NAFTA on steroids.” Now that I’ve read it, I can see why. I can’t tell you what’s in the agreement, because the U.S. Trade Representative calls it classified. But I can tell you two things about it.

1) There is no national security purpose in keeping this text secret.

2) This agreement hands the sovereignty of our country over to corporate interests.

3) What they can’t afford to tell the American public is that [the rest of this sentence is classified].

***

I will be fighting this agreement with everything I’ve got. And I know you’ll be there every step of the way.

It is ironic in a way that the government thinks it’s alright to have a record of every single call that an American makes, but not alright for an American citizen to know what sovereign powers the government is negotiating away.

***

Having seen what I’ve seen, I would characterize this as a gross abrogation of American sovereignty. And I would further characterize it as a punch in the face to the middle class of America. I think that’s fair to say from what I’ve seen so far. But I’m not allowed to tell you why!

The only way to fight the battle, since the rule of law has been suspended and our Constitution has been shredded, is to deny the corporanazi’s what they need to survive….. money. If millions go into noncompliance, refusing to monetarily support the evil institutions…. they will dry up like a raisin in the California sun. Nothing more powerful than the money in YOUR pocket. Occupy Your Wallet.

Queueing

The problem with that strategy, as we have seen with the financial crisis, is the willingness of the gov’t to use tax revenue to bail out privately owned business. If tax dollars can be used to bail out banks, why couldn’t (or rather, wouldn’t) they be used to bail out communications and media businesses?

IfIWereYou

Well, then our course is clear. NO taxation without representation! I refuse to give one cent of my money to the federal gov’t.

tetridae

And a good way to (be able to) refuse that would be cryptocurrencies.

ccaffrey

similar to the meme “there’s an app for that” I reply “there’s a private for-profit prison for that”. And pay attention to whether they’ve passed ALEC’s Prison Industries Act. That’s the new slave-wage work force they’ve been waiting for.

IfIWereYou

I just grab sks and go innawoods.

Fullblad

there is no law that requires a person working for wages or salary to file an income tax return, but if you do it had better be damn well honest. Income tax was brought in and aimed at profits

PatriotOne

It (GovCo) do not need my or your “tax” money. It will print all it needs. It will find a man or woman that is willing to do anything for printed money. The POLICE man will point a gun at you for marijuana, which is not a crime, and force you into a CAGE and then to a COURT where a PROSECUTOR man and JUDGE man will CHARGE you with the CRIME (not really a crime) of possession, it will find you GUILTY and demand money, if you fail to pay it will lock you into a CAGE… How is the POLICE protecting you from marijuana by pointing a gun at you to save you from marijuana? What about ‘J walking’ or growing tomato’s in your front yard or having the wrong tree on your yard or fixing your roof without GovCo PERMIT? As soon as mom and dad trained us to believe that GovCo is a FORCE for good the believers of mom and dad continue to render us slaves belonging to GovCo. PS, Grayson promoted in favor of corporate owned OBAMA-CARE.

IfIWereYou

What if I’m living out in the woods? Lawman isn’t going to waste time looking for me if I’m living in a camo tent with an SKS, and no devices that can be used to track me.

tetridae

It would not make you look less like a terrorist.

tetridae

They can try and tax bitcoin…

Fullblad

The corporatocracy wants to try and tie bitcoin into the illegal drug trade and then to pass law to destroy Bitcoin as a narco currency…how rich is that with CIA and miltary planes flying Afghan opium around the world….the same as Sratfor trying to tie presently legal public protest movements in with terrorist groups funded by the corporatocracy….the irony is enough to make one’s kidneys fail.

tetridae

Yes I agree they may try and do that. Since last I wrote here, however… the NSA scandal with the extent to which they destroyed security in computer hardware and software.. I can’t help but to become sceptic about even crypto currencies.

Fullblad

you mean they aren’t already???

malcolmest

#Bitcoin

unclezip

Ammo

atwas911

There is no way the American People would survive an armed conflict against the United States Corporate Military. If a single foothold was made, the entire town would be removed.

There is no way to hide from a thermal imaging drone that has already spotted you and acquired a firing solution from two miles away.

Ammo.. Is not the path you want to take.

spud

Do not deny the potential of low tech creative solutions to overcoming these high tech obstacles.

On top of that, if the US Corporate military were to attack its own people, support would be virtually non-existent, sabotage would be rife, the entire game would be unsustainable. Some of the most aware are in the military, biding their time.

Fullblad

just take a banker with you….just joking here..perhaps a contract taken out is the better solution. I wonder what the result would be if mafia tactics were used? This article has obviously given me a rather macabre state of mind so excuse my musings.

tetridae

You expect the army to turn on it’s own people? Maybe I’m naiive but I don’t think it will. What would be really scary however, if automization of warfare got further so that people did not have to do the killing, but robots could. That could really be scary. A robot won’t think twice or disobey an order.

Adam Raymond Ravenhurst

I find it doubtful that a large enough sector of the military would willingly engage in direct, violent confrontation with civilian citizens of the USA in the first place.

UrinalCake

But those sun dried raisins tastr so good.

hmtard

up until they pass laws that force mandatory payments upon punishment of death.

The RIAA already tried to dip into pell grant money to reimburse itself for its own projected losses despite record breaking profits.

Giant Pink

We are consumerists at heart. If we don’t buy things people will think we’re poor and we might lose our children. /s

AnnaAllen

Agree completely, and #1 have no debt. If you still have money, keep your money in cash, land/properties and gold/silver. DO NOT give them your money to leverage 1000x and use it against us!

Elvis

I don’t understand these warnings that harm to our nation and constitution is being done, but I can’t tell you what it is because I was sworn to secrecy. People like Wyden and Grayson took a simple oath with their powerful office to defend the Constitution. The Constitution is supreme in law, so how can a secondary oath supplant the primary oath to defend it?

Thing done in secret to subvert the Constitution are inherently treasonous. No one made a so-called trade representative Queen. We didn’t elect him. His office is not elected. And Congress cannot excuse the continued success of this secret, transnational power by saying “we didn’t know, “we weren’t informed,” “I didn’t read it,” etc. It must be stopped, and their oath and office says their loyalty to secrecy is misplaced.

Jenny Stenson

I agree wholeheartedly. I feel that the entire election process is a sham. We don’t actually elect our officials, the corporations do. And in so doing, they maintain the status quo and can continuously keep the power and dollars flowing in their direction, regardless of constitutional directives.

tetridae

Yes, or more like, anyone (politician) not running the established corporations errands will be outed for whatever they have been doing that is illegal/immoral/embarrassing.. the real guys in power are those who have a good intelligence source, who know a big bunch of crap about people and can use that information to take down the politicians if they feel threatened.

Jonathan

I’m afraid that according to it’s definition as used in America, this would not be treason. (Than us, the British, for this, as we used to overuse the term to a large extent.)

tetridae

Well. The US started out as a band of colonists who opposed the king of Great Britain. Clearly “treason”.., but most americans today would say: quite justified.

Matthew Reece

And George III’s government was only a small fraction as oppressive as the U.S. federal government. When are people going to declare their independence from it?

JakeConhale

Some tried. It was called “The Civil War”, you might have heard of it. Frankly, I would be in favor of New England separating ties (as I think it’s mostly self-sufficient with land/air/sea trade facilities), or at least until we could renegotiate entry.

JennySE

A good point. However, New England – plus the corridor down to DC – has been the breeding ground of “tell everyone how to live” puritanism since Plymouth Rock. The modern Brahmins have traded in the religious mantle for a warm humanist smugness – but the need to order and control every little thing is as strong as over.

The secession of New England would probably be best for all parties involved.

AnnaAllen

Because if he tells us, they will never tell him anything again, and we need someone like him that will share all info he can with us and warn of the significance!

Fullblad

It’s simple, Wyden and Grayson are not up to the bar set by Manning, Assange, Snowden, Hammond and many others….they view their stint as legislators as just another interesting chapter in the memoirs they’ll pen someday sitting under a grass umbrella on a beach in Aruba….the cost benefit doesn’t add up for people like them. It probably wouldn’t for me either if I was in their position…we must look to ourselves to save the situation.

robnume

Quelle surprise!! Screw TPP and any dumbshit who supports it. Sheeple, welcome to the United Stasi of Amerika!!

robertsgt40

Nothing new under the sun. ALL legislation and treaties passed by Congress for decades(think NAFTA and others) have been designed with one purpose in mind. Desolving US sovereignty by turning the nation over to the “corporation”.

WarriorClass III

They are preparing for the counter-revolution that will take our country back to the Constitutional Republic that it was before the Marxist revolution that has destroyed it. If you are a Marxist, or collectivist of any stripe, that is your chief concern, not some mooslim terrorist. A little terror just reminds people how much they need their dear government to protect them.

Believe it or not, there are still some Americans that are willing to kill for their country, just like our Founders. And their numbers are growing right along with all the gun sales since Obama took office.

“During the American Revolution, the active forces in the field against the King’s tyranny never amounted to more than 3% of the colonists. They were in turn actively supported by perhaps 10% of the population. In addition to these revolutionaries were perhaps another 20% who favored their cause but did little or nothing to support it. Another one-third of the population sided with the King (by the end of the war there were actually more Americans fighting FOR the King than there were in the field against him) and the final third took no side, blew with the wind and took what came.

Three Percenters today do not claim that we represent 3% of the American people, although we might. That theory has not yet been tested. We DO claim that we represent at least 3% of American gun owners, which is still a healthy number somewhere in the neighborhood of 3 million people. History, for good or ill, is made by determined minorities. We are one such minority. So too are the current enemies of the Founders’ Republic. What remains, then, is the test of will and skill to determine who shall shape the future of our nation.” – from “The Three Percenters” by Mike Vanderboegh, Sipsey Street Irregulars blogspot dot com.

There are now about 100 million gun owners in the United States. In military matters, quantity has a quality all its own.

WarriorClass III

They are preparing for the counter-revolution that will take our country back to the Constitutional Republic that it was before the Marxist revolution that has destroyed it. If you are a Marxist, or collectivist of any stripe, that is your chief concern, not some mooslim terrorist. A little terror just reminds people how much they need their dear government to protect them.

Believe it or not, there are still some Americans that are willing to kill for their country, just like our Founders. And their numbers are growing right along with all the gun sales since Obama took office.

“During the American Revolution, the active forces in the field against the King’s tyranny never amounted to more than 3% of the colonists. They were in turn actively supported by perhaps 10% of the population. In addition to these revolutionaries were perhaps another 20% who favored their cause but did little or nothing to support it. Another one-third of the population sided with the King (by the end of the war there were actually more Americans fighting FOR the King than there were in the field against him) and the final third took no side, blew with the wind and took what came.

Three Percenters today do not claim that we represent 3% of the American people, although we might. That theory has not yet been tested. We DO claim that we represent at least 3% of American gun owners, which is still a healthy number somewhere in the neighborhood of 3 million people. History, for good or ill, is made by determined minorities. We are one such minority. So too are the current enemies of the Founders’ Republic. What remains, then, is the test of will and skill to determine who shall shape the future of our nation.” – from “The Three Percenters” by Mike Vanderboegh, Sipsey Street Irregulars blogspot dot com.

There are now about 100 million gun owners in the United States. In military matters, quantity has a quality all its own.

WOLVERINES

wut?

10 million rabid gun owners couldn’t take over the federal government, much less 3 million. They might be able to take over a state house – for about three days. Then they would be slaughtered.

More likely is that a small insurrection like this would provide the cause with martyrs, then the rest might have some guts to make a few more hits on local governments. Eventually these people would also be mowed down. Realizing the takeover of government buildings is fruitless, this “patriot” movement would venture into guerrilla warfare, murdering politicians and others that speak against them. The public would then turn hard against these patriots, and the movement would die a quick death (but only after we give up more of our privacy rights to catch them).

I’d love to hear your idea how an armed insurrection is going to solve the problems of the USA.

tetridae

Well, there is no reason to “take over” federal govt, just ignore it and starve it of it’s taxes by use of crypto currencies or other means. Without influx of taxes, govt dies. In that situation it is the federal govt that would need to “reach out” and do enforcing of tax collection in the states.

Carl Stevenson

There is a growing push towards resistance, and it is not constrained to the fringes – the first mistake the tyrants in DC make is to assume that.

Practically every militarily significant weapon made in the last 100 years has sold. 4.6 million weapon sales in 30 days and empty ammo shelves is not a panic – it’s battlespace preparation.

The second mistake they make is to try to assert that this trend is about racism because Obama is half-black. That’s a cop-out used to demonize and divide – It’s an easy excuse to ignore another person’s points, and justify doing bad things to them; it’s an attempt to convince people that those who oppose the regime’s policies and actions are evil or deranged.

Their final mistake is to assume that the military and law enforcement agencies will follow orders to disarm their fellow Americans. The military and police are a sub-section of the total population, and will break along the same ideological lines.

Some police and military members will follow orders. Many, probably most, will disobey, desert, and rebel against orders to attack, imprison, or murder their families, neighbors, and fellow patriots to prop up a corrupt and tyrannical regime.

This has been played out time and time again in human history.

Statist politicians should not assume an insurrection will end easily, nor that those they’ve demonized will go quietly into the dark night, nor that they personally will not suffer if it blows up.

Never let your government disarm you and render you defenseless against their excesses.

It will be up to the American people to solve the problems the tyrants and banksters have created as a means to steal our wealth and strip us of our liberty.

After the tyrants are removed from power, they and their partners in crimes against the Constitution and the American people need to be tried in a modern day version of the Nuremberg Trials, here on American soil, by American citizens who are loyal to the Constitution, then punished according to their crimes. Treason is punishable by death. Keep the faith, justice will ultimately be served.

And remember, it’s not treason to oppose forces that seek to subvert the Constitution.

shawn_von_socialist

you are stupid

marxists are against corporations and are pro privacy rights they demostrated against every fricken corporate treaty

Where were you con-Conservatives

oh yeah you were screaming arrest those leftists

all i see you nutso conservatives do is talk about violence and never any actions other than second amendment demostrations

deeds not words “george washington”

conservatives are dumber than a box of pet rocks you kick down the street

littlebit43

His name says it all.

Jonathan

Do any of you own large stockpiles of Anti Tank Guided Missiles? (As shoulder launched systems such as the RPG are increasingly useless against modern Main Battle Tanks.)
Do any of you control large stockpiles of shoulder Launched Anti-Air Missiles? (As Anti-Air Guns are useless against non-helicopter military aircraft.)

Your problem is America’s size. Any March on Washington would invariably take more than a day. It would not survive the night.

tetridae

Why would there need to be a march on Washington? Cryptocurrencies would starve federal banking and there would be nothing to tax. It would be DC that would need to reach out….

Jonathan

And there would be nothing you could do to stop them.

tetridae

To stop who? Many americans are armed.. are there enough drones to do that? Or do you expect the american army to march on it’s own civilians?

Jonathan

Given my above comment about the lack of available Anti-Tank/Anti-Air Weapons, I would say yes to that last one.

tetridae

How would you get into an Internet Service Providers building with a tank? You got to step out of the tank sooner or later to get into buildings, or even bunkers. Here in Sweden some ISPs are situated in nuclear blast-safe bunkers and I suspect that the same is true for some ISPs in US.

Jonathan

Why attack the Bunkered ISP’s then, when you simply can take the power offline?

tetridae

Take the power offline and TV / radio propaganda would be impossible. I can hardly believe the army would accept to do that to it’s own population. It would be possible if drones and land-based armed robots were plenty enough to fly / roll around and do the enforcing…

Jonathan

Would it be possible to take down power to ISP’s selectively?

tetridae

Would they then not have to strong-arm the electrical companies or the power stations..? Probably those places already have security forces today..?

So they could destroy the plants if they wanted to. That would be a horrible blow to the economy of course. But to take them over still functioning they would need to rush into some building with a bunch of armed people..?

Jonathan

Wouldn’t a show of force do the trick?

tetridae

And to do that show of force you would need to have the army willing to scare and if necessary turn on it’s own people. Either that – or you need automatic drones and land-based robots to do the dirty work for you.

Jonathan

You appear to have forgotten the the drones are controlled by Armed Forces personnel. They are currently no automatic drones, air or land based, at the moment, simply because the Autonomous Operations software hasn’t reach the levels necessary.

tetridae

I did not know that, so it would have been difficult to forget.

But I’m aware that quite some research is being done all over the world on autonomous veichles interacting and doing complicated stuff together and I would not be very surprised if one of the real objectives of all this research would be to accomplish something of the sort…

Carl Stevenson

And what about the damage that the current regime is doing on a daily basis?

tetridae

Actually I don’t know too much about it. I don’t live in the US and I don’t expect to learn those kind of things from our established Swedish mass-media. Sadly. the media climate in Sweden currently is “Anyone not agreeing with our (established news media) views is an ‘internet-hater’ or conspiracy nut” . If you have some link to someone reporting about it I would gladly read on.

tetridae

Would they then not have to strong-arm the electrical companies or the power stations..? Probably those places already have security forces today..?

Tanks can be taken out with a lot more then just guided missiles. In a theoretical uprising in the US, you have to remember quite a few interesting factors, including, will the whole military side with the government? (Note, I do not advocate an armed uprising, I merely have an interest in military history)

Jonathan

IIRC, the reason the Soviets did so poorly in Afghanistan is that the Rebels were supplied and trained by a foreign power (the US.) And I imagine it would be different when the ‘occupiers’ are the (supposedly) legitimate government. Especially as interfacing with the locals would be much easier.

2197_uxo_1

Having served in the military, 22 years, I do not agree that we could not win against this tyrannical government. When the individual who is commanded is given an unlawful order they will refuse to follow it. From personal experience I can state that less than3% of the current military will fight for this corrupt government against our citizens.

Jonathan

I am trying not to sound condescending here (and if I do sound condescending I apologize,) but what you have experienced may not be the universal rule. Perhaps 3% of the people you have served with would support the government. But that may not be true everywhere. Elsewhere, perhaps 3% wouldn’t support the government.

I don’t know. But I worry.

Carl Stevenson

The Russians did (and we are) doing so poorly in Afghanistan because large, conventional armies don’t fare well against fiercely determined indigenous forces that can melt back into the population, even when they are smaller in number and more poorly armed.
4G warfare, first used by Clinton in the former Yugoslavia, also takes the fight directly to the head of the snake (or headS of the hydra). That seems to have a deleterious effect on both command structure and political will, which speeds the fall of the oppressors.

Jonathan

So why hasn’t that happened in Afghanistan and Iraq?

tetridae

I also wonder that.. would the army really fight it’s own people? I hope not, but you have an increasing number of unmanned drones and other veichles in the military so depending on the morale of the soldiers may not be necessary

WarriorClass III

They are preparing for the counter-revolution that will take our country back to the Constitutional Republic that it was before the Marxist revolution that has destroyed it. If you are a Marxist, or collectivist of any stripe, that is your chief concern, not some mooslim terrorist. A little terror just reminds people how much they need their dear government to protect them.

Believe it or not, there are still some Americans that are willing to kill for their country, just like our Founders. And their numbers are growing right along with all the gun sales since Obama took office.

“During the American Revolution, the active forces in the field against the King’s tyranny never amounted to more than 3% of the colonists. They were in turn actively supported by perhaps 10% of the population. In addition to these revolutionaries were perhaps another 20% who favored their cause but did little or nothing to support it. Another one-third of the population sided with the King (by the end of the war there were actually more Americans fighting FOR the King than there were in the field against him) and the final third took no side, blew with the wind and took what came.

Three Percenters today do not claim that we represent 3% of the American people, although we might. That theory has not yet been tested. We DO claim that we represent at least 3% of American gun owners, which is still a healthy number somewhere in the neighborhood of 3 million people. History, for good or ill, is made by determined minorities. We are one such minority. So too are the current enemies of the Founders’ Republic. What remains, then, is the test of will and skill to determine who shall shape the future of our nation.” – from “The Three Percenters” by Mike Vanderboegh, Sipsey Street Irregulars blogspot dot com.

There are now about 100 million gun owners in the United States. In military matters, quantity has a quality all its own.

http://proudprimate.com Proud Primate

Nothing that happens this year, even war in Syria or Iran, would hurt this country as much as the TPP. And Obama is it’s biggest booster – IN SECRET!

grumpy old man

More & More like the “EVIL EMPIRE” of “Star Wars..
Where are the “JEDI” …little by little being eliminated,
like @ “Benghazi”…!!

ShadowCougar

Benghazi was nothing more then a CIA op gone wrong.

Jonathan

And what the fuck were they supposed to be doing?

Howard Treesong

It is reaching the point where we have to start ignoring the law as a system. When we are slammed with “According to article so and so, of trade agreement this and that, you can’t…”, the only answer can be: we are not interested in your argument, we will do as we please. We have simply ceased to care about your rapacious laws.

Any law is abused to the maximum and reaches mission creep. Look at where the Patriot Act got us. Now look at this, and we don’t know the full extent of it, and imagine what the interested parties will come up with for ways to expand and extend what this regulation will do. They’ll end up making it a capital crime to even suggest ways to make this trade agreement weaker than it is. If we allow this to happen, we deserve everything we get.

Anonymous

This is concerning…

martiendejong

This article references to incredible conspiratory sources like Democrazy Now and Press for Truth. It is also full of speculation. We need to see what TPP is before we can judge this IMHO.

tetridae

And you expect them to show it to you..? Many other treaties like ACTA were kept in secret so that people could not make up their own opinions about them in time.

You even had bombing in Boston in the days when CISPA got passed in federal congress.. Could be a terrible coincidence.

Tom Czerniawski

Funny story about the Boston bombing. The FBI shot dead one person remotely affiliated with the Tsarnaevs, and is doing their best to deport others.

Almost like they’re trying to silence anyone connected to the bombing. Wonder why?

Mike Johnston

Democracy now is an independent news source, they have conspiracy theorists on there from time to time but Amy Goodman always keeps a level head and asks the right questions. That is real journalism, the kind that talks about things like TPP and other controversial issues that your standard media, in the pocket of private interests, aren’t allowed to touch.

mrtnkny

In the uk, we’ve had weeks of comment about the uk government using american data on uk citizens, the debate seems to be about if it is acceptable for our government to be using data from the us to monitor uk citizens, and shockingly not about the fact that a foreign power is spying on uk citizens. At the end of the day there will be nothing but cockroaches and corporations.Good luck

angryrat

The US has been infringing on the sovereignty of other countries for decades (no uproar there, is there?). I guess it’s time for the corporate masters to do the same at home.

chuchi78

There’s been plenty of uproar. We just call our meddling, “spreading freedom” and the negative effects are terrorism.

anonymous

Mussolini NEVER SAID THAT

Charlie Primero

Good article. Thanks man.

Matthew Reece

We cannot have a free society until we abolish all governments and corporations.

dave7777

Whew!

Spike’m

The key to all this shit is the banks, they use your money to make themsleves more money. They pull the strings at every level. You want to make your voice heard. Give up the plastic, get out of debt, it is intended to make you a slave of the system. Withdraw your money from the bank, insist on getting your pay in cash. Delay paying all your bills (including taxes) as long as possible. Stop being a mindless consumer. Be a thoughtful comsumer, buy what you really need not what the TV tells you need. In short do everything you can to keep your money yours. Do this in the millions and you’ll be heard.

Spike’m

The key to all this shit is the banks, they use your money to make themsleves more money. They pull the strings at every level. You want to make your voice heard. Give up the plastic, get out of debt, it is intended to make you a slave of the system. Withdraw your money from the bank, insist on getting your pay in cash. Delay paying all your bills (including taxes) as long as possible. Stop being a mindless consumer. Be a thoughtful comsumer, buy what you really need not what the TV tells you need. In short do everything you can to keep your money yours. Do this in the millions and you’ll be heard.

Guest

“…insist on getting your pay in cash.” Good luck with that. Is there anywhere above small, locally owned businesses that have that option any more? You can’t *GET* cash for pay, most places. Paper check or direct deposit… and a lot of places don’t even offer paper checks anymore. Some companies are “paying” their employees with electronic payments directly to a paycard, no bank account needed.

tetridae

Well if people insist on being paid directly in cryptocurrencies, then both the banks and govt would be circumvented. Just as file-sharing has the chance to circumvent traditional “publishing” industries.

Spike’m

The key to all this shit is the banks, they use your money to make themsleves more money. They pull the strings at every level. You want to make your voice heard. Give up the plastic, get out of debt, it is intended to make you a slave of the system. Withdraw your money from the bank, insist on getting your pay in cash. Delay paying all your bills (including taxes) as long as possible. Stop being a mindless consumer. Be a thoughtful comsumer, buy what you really need not what the TV tells you need. In short do everything you can to keep your money yours. Do this in the millions and you’ll be heard.

http://rhinocrisy.org/ saurabh

I really wish people would stop throwing that Mussolini quote around. The meaning of “Corporate” as Mussolini used it is not the same as the modern usage (i.e., relating to large public limited liability companies). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism for more. Using the word “fascism” as a non-specific smear is worthless and pointless. Know your enemy, and be able to describe what’s happening correctly. Understand its antecedents and its underlying motives. These people are not fascists. They are capitalists, and they are buying and dismantling our government.

dave7777

Fascism is the amalgam ism of government and industry. They work in unison. That’s what is happening.

Carl Stevenson

As with most Wikipedia entries, that one has a decidedly leftist bias, extolling the “virtues” of fascism and statism.
Yes, they ARE fascists. They are forming a merger of state and big corporate interests, where the state crushes competition through regulation and is rewarded by the favored corporate interests with campaign contributions and votes to stay in power, thus assuring favored status to the “generous” favored corporations.
Some call it “crony capitalism,” but it’s fascism … Other terms that aren’t politically correct to the regime in power are “corruption in government,” “graft,” “bribery,” etc.

medcannabis1

I am saddened by the conduct of the elected legislative class.. They have let the people of this nation suffer under their compassionless legislation, while growing the wealth and power of the .01% and destroying the quality of life of the former middle class. We cannot even unelect them.. they gerrymander their districts and accept bribes from the “corporate citizen” to maintain the status quo.
We have fallen far from our lofty national mantra of” we are the best..etc.etc.etc. I just wish we had a choice in this debate over the very soul of our nation and it’s citizens…..

dave7777

The real, and only, answer is term limits.

colinjames71

Not to confrontational but changing that one thing alone wouldn’t change a thing. In fact, in out current system, it only makes things more dysfunctional. As part of a radical departure from our current system, sure, its even a default position of the direct democracy/demarchy model currently being discussed

http://www.vote4ok.com Michael Fulks

Unless you’re willing to return to barter for 100% of your needs you will feed the forces you see against you.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002440147101 Tim Bones

The treaty will trump the present restrictions on hostile foreign governments [Red China] buying control of key US infrastructure companies or companies making or managing strategic assets or military products.
We are giving up control of our economy or strategic interests to foreign governments that may be our future enemies. It’s worse than NAFTA.

Roderick Bateman

Racist is a hate word. In the 60’s, anti-whites forced ALL and ONLY white countries to bring in millions of non-whites. Then anti-whites forced ALL and ONLY white people to “integrate” or face consequences for being “naziswhowantokill6millionjews.” Now anti-whites are praising and counting down the days till ALL and ONLY white children are minorities and extinct EVERYWHERE. That makes it genocide. “Anti-racist” is a codeword for anti-white.

http://media.nola.com/tpphotos/photo/9346409-standard.jpg bondmen

They have belittled and smeared those of US who saw foundations being laid for global, One World Government calling US conspiracy theorists and kooks but now it’s here and the name callers are seen to be the ones behind the shenanigans of illegal sovereignty destruction. Where will this lead? Who will stand against global merger? If not US who, if not now when?

dave7777

Doesn’t the Senate have to ratify any treaty? If so, the mere signing of the treaty by Obama or any other person is meaningless. I’m sure the Senate will have to have access to all the details before being asked to ratify it. But then again, the Congress (both houses) have been signing bills that they haven’t read.

travis690

“The text of the proposed treaty is secret”?

This is the tipping point of where the political class have won the battle against the country class. And they did it without any resistance, because they OUTLAWED the chance to resist!

I would definitely support any member of Congress who proposed a bill that would make all treaty negotiations public. Also anyone that proposes a bill to make all treaty documents open to public view for one year before the Senate is allowed to take a vote on the treaty.

Our nation’s political class is selling the nation down the river. We have definitely reached the point where the political class is making the decisions, while the country class suffers with the consequences. Another example of this is the current battle over immigration, when we see Senators cross party lines “just to see that we get something done.”

Why are we always being treated to this crisis mentality in Washington? People do not make good decisions in times of crisis. When you have leadership that FORCES crisis upon everyone, just to make something happen, then you get the most dangerous situation possible. This was how a thug in Germany took over a whole nation in the 1930’s.

Alan Grayson is everything that’s wrong with congress today. An ambulance chaser who bought his way into power, twice, and will do and say anything to stay there. Remember “republicans plan is for grandma to die”? Does anyone really believe that anyone wants to see anyone wind up dead for lack of care options? I believe nothing that comes from this cretin’s mouth. Doubt he even gained access to it. Why would a lowly second term, once defeated rep be allowed to see it when other far more senior members were denied?

colinjames71

So in a bought and paid for world of DC, about one of the only people speaking out on behalf of the people and against the powers that be is the embodiment of everything that’s wrong, and buying his way into Congress- as opposed to selling his soul for it- is a problem for you? That, and his insufficient time in office, makes him the poster child of dysfunction? Yeah that makes sense.

Steve

If no one knows what it says, isn’t all of this speculation? There is not a shred of “fact” in the article.

ccaffrey

Actually several chapters were leaked to the public this past year. Public Citizen has copies. Also, it has been widely noted that the provisions of these trade agreements build on the models of prior ones, especially NAFTA and CAFTA. There are already numerous examples, for instance, of private corporations suing governments for the passage of laws or regulations which the corporation consider a threat to their “future profits”. Public Citizen has a “division” specializing in issues related to trade. Their main website is http://www.citizen.org . At that address you can find info on various trade agreements at the main address /trade or on the TPP at /tpp. Hope that helps.

fieldmcconnell

Let’s keep level heads and watch Russia and Hungary kick central bankers between their legs. Regarding Barry Soetoro, he is sent as an Agent of the British, COL and Vatican to trash our economy, incite Civil Unrest, and gather up the guns. I have a very laconic response to my fellow Punahou Alumnus. I suggest Barry Soetoro, Punahou ’79 google this combo:
barry soetoro + images + field mcconnell
When the five image top line comes up, I am the guy with big balls and he is the Arab kisser. Any more questions contact me at fieldmcc@yahoo.com or check [ abeldanger dott nett ] This limp Brit can KMA

fieldmcconnell

Let’s keep level heads and watch Russia and Hungary kick central bankers between their legs. Regarding Barry Soetoro, he is sent as an Agent of the British, COL and Vatican to trash our economy, incite Civil Unrest, and gather up the guns. I have a very laconic response to my fellow Punahou Alumnus. I suggest Barry Soetoro, Punahou ’79 google this combo:
barry soetoro + images + field mcconnell
When the five image top line comes up, I am the guy with big balls and he is the Arab kisser. Any more questions contact me at fieldmcc@yahoo.com or check [ abeldanger dott nett ] This limp Brit can KMA

Fullblad

This sums up the stituation perfectly. This line drawn in the sand identifies where each and all stand, from the individual to the institution, as patriot or traitor….it really is long past the time for the people to stand up for themselves. That this all has progressed so far exemplifies the need for a radical readjustmnet of of how we are to govern ourselves.

Who’s image should be emblazoned on the Ace of Spades?….

Hugh Mann

The 2nd American revolution will not be won with bloodshed because the criminals in charge have advanced technology, bigger guns and more ammo. As John Lennon said, “once you become violent, the government knows how to handle you.” The 2nd revolution will be won through peaceful civil disobedience. Imagine what would happen if everyone suddenly stopped working, stopped paying bills, stopped paying taxes, stopped showing up for court, started ignoring all of their silly rules (laws). When our dollar finally collapses, don’t fall for the same old tricks. So no to centralized banks, fractional reserves and fiat money. Don’t let those who engineered this fiasco come up with the solutions. Remember, those at the top have only one direction to travel. Same with those at the bottom. It’s time to stop giving away our power, and start taking responsibility for our own actions! It is time to grow up, stop competing with each other and start working together!

Sorry about the rant. I had to get that off my chest. I fell better now…

this doesn’t sound as crazy as most people want this to sound – i mean who wants to believe the Constitution has been willfully tossed aside? I believe as Americans most of us would suffer personal injustices and not riot as other countries do – and we suffer these injustices b/c we so badly want democracy to work. We so want this country not to fail.

But I’m afraid it has been and no amount of just hoping will change it around. Here’s an example of what i was put through The IRS. In a letter and later by by telephone I was told that it had come to their attention that i owed them in back taxes the exact sum of: $6,3309.51 from the tax year 1997. It was then 2011. There was also no attached W-2 forms nor any other means of showing me how they had come up with this amount – I mean an amount that included 51 cents? How very specific.
So after I verified the legitimacy of the letter and the information in it I telephoned The IRS office. I told the person who answered that those taxes from previous wages did not exist. She answered me and I quote: “Well how can you Possibly Be 100% Certain about this since this was way way back in 1997?”.
and that my friends was their entire strategy. Had nothing been memorable to me about that year – over a decade previous – I might have easily been afraid I’d forgotten to send in the taxes that year, or perhaps forgot to insert the check or did something wrong on my end – i mean they do have an actual figure cents and all! I might have taken some deal to pay a percentage of ‘what I owed them’ to have the full amount lowered by 40% or so.
When I asked how they possibly came up with such a number owed to them the woman stated it comes from the amount of money I earned in 1994 (what???) assuming i still had the same waged-job, assuming I was working a 40 hour week and that i never took any non-paid leave that year – it was absolutely insane that I could be sent a legal bill from the IRTS based on pure absolute assumptions and guesswork and nothing more. How could any of that be legal?

Unfortunately – For THEM that is – I did not work in 1997, nor in 1996 nor 1998. I knew this to be the case immediately as those years were horrible impoverished ones with no job and great illness.
I re-read the paper-work they had originally sent to me and it stated I had the right to request any and details as to how they came to that exact amount owed. (I mean and 51 cents!)

The next letter sent was a mere 2 sentence long telling me they were dropping said case at this time… refused to send the details i had requested and of course no apology for their 100% error. Or most likely, their 100% stab in the dark dishonesty.
So yes.. somewhere along the way if money is included then rules of law are not included.
Money is only valuable when all of agree it is. We work all day, apart from our families to support our families, but never rarely have the time to see them. We’ve truly made a wrong turn and here we all are.
Now if he could somehow go back to a barter system then their paper-bills wont be worth much – but then we’d lose any true world power we have left. *sigh