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Well said sir. Well said. Unfortunately some are blinded and unable to see the truth. Kimmage the cheat doesn't need my money. Let the sheep throw their money away.

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Frankie - B wrote:We have welcomed a lot of new members in the last few months. which is great in it's own way, but it always come with influences on the climate of the board. One of the things that seems to be a trend that is 'coming and going' is using the quote button when typing a reply. I have found a good example and while I don't want to ridicule members i think it is good to show it. It is the following. in this topic AddictR1 asks a question and Prendrefeu replies to him. All perfectly normal I hear you say. correct indeed, but what happens next is the most intriguing part. AddictR1 now quotes Prendrefeu and writes his reply under it.

please use the quote button for the special occasion such as reacting to a post 2 or more posts up on the page. This way the forms are easier to read and take less time for the moderators to clean.

Press release: UCI takes decisive action in wake of Lance Armstrong affairwrote:Finally, while continuing strongly to maintain the merits of UCI’s case, the Committee decided to seek to suspend the UCI legal action against journalist Paul Kimmage, pending the findings of the independent Commission. UCI President Pat McQuaid and Honorary President Hein Verbruggen who are individual parties to the case will similarly seek to put their cases on hold.

Tapeworm wrote:I couldn't readily find the information so here are some questions:-

1) who actually controls this fund? 2) what happens to the funds should the action against Kimmage be withdrawn? 3) what happens to the funds should they not all be used? 4) who decides what funds pay for what? Is it only legal fees?

For those that weren't aware seems the answer to my questions from a while back were:- 1) A dodgy bastard. 2) they get embezzled.3) See 2. 4) See 1.

I have to admit I am distressed by how things turned out given that I was the one who started this thread. my apologies.

that said, I assumed that Andy Shen and NY Velocity (who started the whole thing along with Leslie Cohen) were upstanding folks. I didn't foresee them handing it over to this con man, Brown, at Cyclismas. nor would I have guessed that Cohen was so clueless that instead of setting up a special account for the Fund, she just put all the money directly into the Cyclismas business Paypal account. (She's going to have a hard time explaining that one to the IRS. Sheesh! Didn't she realize that once she gave her social security number to Paypal they were required by law to report it to the IRS?)

seems we were set up by a fool and delivered into the hands of a flim-flam man.

if I read the article correctly, at least Kimmage got $23,000 from the Fund to pay the lawyers for some of their work on the bogus UCI suit.

"I can't understand why people are frightened by new ideas. I'm frightened of old ones." -- John Cage

I'd seen on Twitter from Leslie Cohen that Brown via his attorney has apparently rejected the Kimmage Fund donor proposal for neutral escrow and will not communicate with donors on issue. Seems like this is going to run and run.