Apologies if it's not kosher for a newbie to start a long list like this. And since I'm new, I'm hoping that I haven't just missed these stories.

Stories that are clearly 616 (or involve characters who interact with 616 characters and should have an MCP entry), since they've been referenced in official material (e.g., other 616 stories, handbooks, indices):

Nice list vanhornluke. Some of these have been argued for inclusion before. Sometimes rarities make it sometimes they don't, but it's always nice to have lists for the several of us completists out there. Thanks for coming on board and sharing your list.

In addition to the items vanhornluke mentioned, there are a couple of other books on the FAQ's Non-Canon List whose status I'd question.

Beavis & Butthead: While the series as a whole is obviously non-canon, in issue #14 the pair read an otherwise-unpublished Spider-Man 2099 comic which is referenced in the Handbook bibliography: http://marvel.com/universe/OHOTMU:Bibli ... 99_A.D..29Brute Force: Characters appear in Deadpool Bi-Annual #1.Destroyer: One would think this adaptation of a long-running novel series would be non-616; however, the Ghita is mentioned in the Mystic Arcana handbook’s unabridged list of tomes: http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/tome ... wledge.htmHellraiser, Book of the Damned, etc.: These would seem to be no-brainers; however, Philip Lemarchand and the Lament Configuration are mentioned in Marvel Comics Presents #55 and the Mystic Arcana handbook.Illuminator: Includes a reference to recent X-Men events http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/illuminatorprent.htmKathy: She crossed over with Millie the Model in Life with Millie #14 and Kathy #26.Meteor Man: Spider-Man and Night Thrasher appeared in his series.Misty: She is mentioned in Millie the Model’s handbook entry and later gets her own entry.Mort the Dead Teenager: He received a handbook entry, although I think that might be his only link.Wolverine: Global Jeopardy: This has actually already been added to the Chronology listings and so should be removed from the Non-Canon List.

I'm particularly interested in why Professor Xavier and the X-Men has been deemed non-canon.

Well, 17 of the 18 issues are just modern retellings of old stories. And the one issue that IS a new story (#4) conflicts with other accounts of how the Brotherhood formed. Presumably #4 is in the same "old stories retold with modern twists" universe as the other 17 issues.

It has been many of years since we argued Professor X and the X-Men, but if I recall correctly. It was not included because it showed the same scenes with different dialog along with the new material and at least one issue was out of order.

I also just recently was able to get Edições Gep #1-8, 13-14 (Brazilian original X-Men stories), these are pretty fun.

Actually, I've been meaning to remove that. I added PXX 4 many years ago, when it first came out. It was the only issue I had, and at the time, I had no knowledge of the contents of the other issues.

Stories aren't "non-canon," merely by virtue of being retellings. Retellings aren't listed in the chronologies, not because they're not canon, but because they're retellings. Stories that include new scenes should be listed here, as we strive to do with Classic X-Men.

That's a retelling. Then there's a "retooling," which changes (or modernizes) some of the events that we've already seen in the original stories, without explanation. That would be Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man: Chapter One, and Marvel Age: Spider-Man, to name three. (And, yes, I know, the three examples are wildly different, but they're still three valid examples.)

If other issues of Professor X and the X-Men show the same events as the classic stories, without change or addition, then PXX 4 would be the only story listed here. If other issues show the same events, without change but with additions, we should list PXX 4, and strive to identify the new scenes in other issues. If other issues change previous events, so as to be irreconcilable with the originals, then PXX 4 should be removed.

Now, to be fair, the Jeff Parker X-Men First Class series currently have only one issue listed, due to that issue being heavily referenced in X-Men vs. Agents of Atlas, in spite of the OHOTMU's last major run thus ceasing to reference (other) issues partway through.

zuckyd1 wrote:In addition to the items vanhornluke mentioned, there are a couple of other books on the FAQ's Non-Canon List whose status I'd question.

Beavis & Butthead: While the series as a whole is obviously non-canon, in issue #14 the pair read an otherwise-unpublished Spider-Man 2099 comic which is referenced in the Handbook bibliography: http://marvel.com/universe/OHOTMU:Bibli ... 99_A.D..29Brute Force: Characters appear in Deadpool Bi-Annual #1.Destroyer: One would think this adaptation of a long-running novel series would be non-616; however, the Ghita is mentioned in the Mystic Arcana handbook’s unabridged list of tomes: http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/tome ... wledge.htmHellraiser, Book of the Damned, etc.: These would seem to be no-brainers; however, Philip Lemarchand and the Lament Configuration are mentioned in Marvel Comics Presents #55 and the Mystic Arcana handbook.Illuminator: Includes a reference to recent X-Men events http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/illuminatorprent.htmKathy: She crossed over with Millie the Model in Life with Millie #14 and Kathy #26.Meteor Man: Spider-Man and Night Thrasher appeared in his series.Misty: She is mentioned in Millie the Model’s handbook entry and later gets her own entry.Mort the Dead Teenager: He received a handbook entry, although I think that might be his only link.Wolverine: Global Jeopardy: This has actually already been added to the Chronology listings and so should be removed from the Non-Canon List

Another title which is mistakenly on the Non-Canon list is Semper Fi. The handbook entry for World War I references the Whittier family member in Semper Fi who fought in that war.

Here are a few more 616 stories missing from MCP published after FF #1, all of which are referenced in official sources (e.g., later 616 comics, handbooks, indices) or feature characters who appear in other such official sources:

Blown About
Break the Bank
Captain America and the Red Skull
Captain America and the Sore Sir's Apprentices
Captain America vs. the Aliens
Captain Marvel! And the Energy Crisis
City Crisis
Cut on the Dotted Line
The Deserted City!
The Ding-a-Ling Family
A Friendly Gesture
Friends!
The Green Frog
A Hot Time in the Old Town
Hotshot on the Block
The Hulk vs. the Phoomie Goonies
The Human Torch Saves the Valley!
The Icemaster Cometh
The Incredible Hulk and the Twins of Evil
The Incredible Hulk and the Ultimate Weapon!
The Incredible Hulk Changes His Mind!
The Incredible Hulk in Forget-Me-Net
The Incredible Hulk vs. the Roller Disco Devils!
An Invading Army
Legal Eagle
A Passion for Gold
The Power of Gold!
Spider-Man and the Cupcake Caper
Spider-Man and the Demolition Derby
The Spider-Man and the Fly!
Spider-Man Meets June Jitsui!
Spider-Man Meets the Home Wrecker
Spider-Man "Puts Himself in the Picture"
Spider-Man vs. the Chairman!
Spider-Man vs. the Human Computer!
Thor Meets a Glutton for Gold
Thor Meets the Ricochet Monster
The Trap!
When It Rains It Pours!
Will Power!

There are Hostess villains that appeared in Fin Fang Four Return! as well, so there are quite a few 616 Hostess characters. The handbooks also explicitly refer to a number of the Hostess ads as 616 stories. So why think that all the Hostess ads take place on Earth-51914? Doesn't the evidence (especially from the handbooks) indicate that a lot of the Hostess ads take place on 616? Maybe similar stories also occurred on 51914, but the Spider-Verse story doesn't sound like it's inconsistent with what the handbooks have already established.

All of those handbook entries were written before the Spider-verse crossover was published, of course. New evidence always shines new light on things.

The Index was a little more clear on the Hostess matter than the handbooks (because we had the ability to be). Yes, the Index provided chronologies for some of the Hostess ads, but with the disclaimer that only if they're canon to Earth-616, that's where they (or similar events) would go. The Index was also written before Spider-verse came out.

Also, keep in mind that while Tom Brevoort says the MARVEL: THE END mini is non-canon, the handbooks refer to it anyway. They're not actually referring to that mini, but rather largely similar events to what was seen in that mini (and of course, there's some reality out there where the events of MARVEL: THE END actually happened as shown in that mini; it's Earth-4321). Now that we have Spider-verse showing a universe where the Hostess ads happened as shown, we can assume the same thing as with The End mini; the handbooks are referring to largely similar events shown in the Hostess ads, if not the actual events (especially in light of Spider-verse).

Thanks to Spider-verse, we have a reality where Spider-Man and the other heroes actually defeated villains with Twinkies. Similar events happened on Earth-616, just without the sponge cake business. Of course, that's just my interpretation.