"Michigan 'Rape Insurance' Bill Passes Into Law"

"Michigan lawmakers passed a controversial measure on Wednesday that will ban all insurance plans in the state from covering abortion unless the woman's life is in danger. The law, which takes effect in March, will force women and employers to purchase a separate abortion rider if they would like the procedure covered, even in cases of rape and incest...."

RWHP:"Michigan lawmakers passed a controversial measure on Wednesday that will ban all insurance plans in the state from covering abortion unless the woman's life is in danger. The law, which takes effect in March, will force women and employers to purchase a separate abortion rider if they would like the procedure covered, even in cases of rape and incest...."

Michigan politicians clearly failed to recognize the unintended consequences of their decision (at least I hope its unintended consequences). Since it seems there goal was to protect the anti abortion crowd from paying into policies that cover abortion, I can see where they were trying to go with this, but you'd think that protections for things like rape and incest would be included in their bill. I'd think that these idiots will be swiftly removed from office at first chance.
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Abortion, as a "necessary" procedure, is abused as it is. If it's "free" (because it's already covered), some may forgo contraceptives altogether (more than already ***

What's to stop a woman from putting in the insurance claim as "Rape" or "Incest"? There isn't any law that states that those offenses need be reported to law enforcement. You cannot force them to press charges/file a police report, so what is there to stop them from easily committing fraud to save a few hundred bucks (up to a couple thousand)? Why should insurance companies have to cover one night stands, casual encounters, "oops", "I don't really love you", "I hope your parents/boyfriend/husband/etc. don't find out", "He doesn't want me to keep it", "we can't afford it", "I want to keep partying", "I don't have a clue who's it is, so don't even know who to ask for child support", etc., etc. If the insurance required a report it could easily be said that "some guy" did it. False reports, unnecessary police work.

If the concern is rape/incest, then the answer isn't to help "facilitate" it by making it "go away", there should be far more severe penalties in place, such as castration.
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NeedBailMoney:Michigan politicians clearly failed to recognize the unintended consequences of their decision (at least I hope its unintended consequences). Since it seems there goal was to protect the anti abortion crowd from paying into policies that cover abortion, I can see where they were trying to go with this, but you'd think that protections for things like rape and incest would be included in their bill. I'd think that these idiots will be swiftly removed from office at first chance.

Of course not. Rape is just part of God's plan like everything else. And if people just had faith in God they wouldn't perform evil acts of a sexual nature unless they are a Catholic priest. And that single mother better have a high paying job because we are not going to help her with food stamps or medical care. Especially if she just moved to this country 3 years ago.
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Abortion, as a "necessary" procedure, is abused as it is. If it's "free" (because it's already covered), some may forgo contraceptives altogether (more than already ***

What's to stop a woman from putting in the insurance claim as "Rape" or "Incest"? There isn't any law that states that those offenses need be reported to law enforcement. You cannot force them to press charges/file a police report, so what is there to stop them from easily committing fraud to save a few hundred bucks (up to a couple thousand)? Why should insurance companies have to cover one night stands, casual encounters, "oops", "I don't really love you", "I hope your parents/boyfriend/husband/etc. don't find out", "He doesn't want me to keep it", "we can't afford it", "I want to keep partying", "I don't have a clue who's it is, so don't even know who to ask for child support", etc., etc. If the insurance required a report it could easily be said that "some guy" did it. False reports, unnecessary police work.

If the concern is rape/incest, then the answer isn't to help "facilitate" it by making it "go away", there should be far more severe penalties in place, such as castration.

And we'll do what other countries do and chop off their hands if they steal, shoot them on the side of the road if they drive drunk.

It is unlikely you can make an insurance claim for an abortion based on rape without having gone to the hospital after a rape has occurred. And likely incest would require a court case or at least genetic testing to happen before they would cover the cost. Potentially you would be getting reimbursed.
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NeedBailMoney:Michigan politicians clearly failed to recognize the unintended consequences of their decision (at least I hope its unintended consequences). Since it seems there goal was to protect the anti abortion crowd from paying into policies that cover abortion, I can see where they were trying to go with this, but you'd think that protections for things like rape and incest would be included in their bill. I'd think that these idiots will be swiftly removed from office at first chance.

SuperClassy:Of course not. Rape is just part of God's plan like everything else. And if people just had faith in God they wouldn't perform evil acts of a sexual nature unless they are a Catholic priest. And that single mother better have a high paying job because we are not going to help her with food stamps or medical care. Especially if she just moved to this country 3 years ago.

Nice rant, what did that have to do in the least with my comment?
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NeedBailMoney:Michigan politicians clearly failed to recognize the unintended consequences of their decision (at least I hope its unintended consequences). Since it seems there goal was to protect the anti abortion crowd from paying into policies that cover abortion, I can see where they were trying to go with this, but you'd think that protections for things like rape and incest would be included in their bill. I'd think that these idiots will be swiftly removed from office at first chance.

SuperClassy:Of course not. Rape is just part of God's plan like everything else. And if people just had faith in God they wouldn't perform evil acts of a sexual nature unless they are a Catholic priest. And that single mother better have a high paying job because we are not going to help her with food stamps or medical care. Especially if she just moved to this country 3 years ago.

NeedBailMoney:Nice rant, what did that have to do in the least with my comment?

I was covering the general mentality of the people who specifically are against abortion and want a law in place to help them feel like their policy doesn't cover it so they aren't paying for it. Despite the reality that that same company probably offers a separate policy that does and all their money is pooled together anyway.

It was politicians pandering to a specific group of voters who typically fall into a mentality that if everyone was more like them things would be better. I decided to make as much of a mockery as possible because it is Saturday morning and I will need to be getting ready for work soon. And work has been very, very slow.

Doesn't that sound like it should be directly related to your comment?
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Abortion, as a "necessary" procedure, is abused as it is. If it's "free" (because it's already covered), some may forgo contraceptives altogether (more than already ***

What's to stop a woman from putting in the insurance claim as "Rape" or "Incest"? There isn't any law that states that those offenses need be reported to law enforcement. You cannot force them to press charges/file a police report, so what is there to stop them from easily committing fraud to save a few hundred bucks (up to a couple thousand)? Why should insurance companies have to cover one night stands, casual encounters, "oops", "I don't really love you", "I hope your parents/boyfriend/husband/etc. don't find out", "He doesn't want me to keep it", "we can't afford it", "I want to keep partying", "I don't have a clue who's it is, so don't even know who to ask for child support", etc., etc. If the insurance required a report it could easily be said that "some guy" did it. False reports, unnecessary police work.

If the concern is rape/incest, then the answer isn't to help "facilitate" it by making it "go away", there should be far more severe penalties in place, such as castration.

Seriously? Bigger picture? So basically rape and incest victims should just suck it up and pay out of pocket because of an crime COMMITTED UPON THEM? Gotcha. Got love the victims support here. I can't even comment on the rest, as it will get me banned for going off on the pure ignorance of your post. Hope you never have a family member who goes through that. I want to see you pose the same hypothetical questions you threw out here because its real easy to talk the talk.
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On the internet you can be anything you want. Its strange that so many people choose to be stupid.---NBM.

Abortion, as a "necessary" procedure, is abused as it is. If it's "free" (because it's already covered), some may forgo contraceptives altogether (more than already ***

What's to stop a woman from putting in the insurance claim as "Rape" or "Incest"? There isn't any law that states that those offenses need be reported to law enforcement. You cannot force them to press charges/file a police report, so what is there to stop them from easily committing fraud to save a few hundred bucks (up to a couple thousand)? Why should insurance companies have to cover one night stands, casual encounters, "oops", "I don't really love you", "I hope your parents/boyfriend/husband/etc. don't find out", "He doesn't want me to keep it", "we can't afford it", "I want to keep partying", "I don't have a clue who's it is, so don't even know who to ask for child support", etc., etc. If the insurance required a report it could easily be said that "some guy" did it. False reports, unnecessary police work.

If the concern is rape/incest, then the answer isn't to help "facilitate" it by making it "go away", there should be far more severe penalties in place, such as castration.

surreal1:Seriously? Bigger picture? So basically rape and incest victims should just suck it up and pay out of pocket because of an crime COMMITTED UPON THEM? Gotcha. Got love the victims support here. I can't even comment on the rest, as it will get me banned for going off on the pure ignorance of your post. Hope you never have a family member who goes through that. I want to see you pose the same hypothetical questions you threw out here because its real easy to talk the talk.

Well he said victims could be liars to get free stuff. So they gotta pay. There is no way they could keep a history and say - hey that lady has had 3 rape abortions this year. I wonder if something is up.
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Abortion, as a "necessary" procedure, is abused as it is. If it's "free" (because it's already covered), some may forgo contraceptives altogether (more than already ***

What's to stop a woman from putting in the insurance claim as "Rape" or "Incest"? There isn't any law that states that those offenses need be reported to law enforcement. You cannot force them to press charges/file a police report, so what is there to stop them from easily committing fraud to save a few hundred bucks (up to a couple thousand)? Why should insurance companies have to cover one night stands, casual encounters, "oops", "I don't really love you", "I hope your parents/boyfriend/husband/etc. don't find out", "He doesn't want me to keep it", "we can't afford it", "I want to keep partying", "I don't have a clue who's it is, so don't even know who to ask for child support", etc., etc. If the insurance required a report it could easily be said that "some guy" did it. False reports, unnecessary police work.

If the concern is rape/incest, then the answer isn't to help "facilitate" it by making it "go away", there should be far more severe penalties in place, such as castration.

surreal1:Seriously? Bigger picture? So basically rape and incest victims should just suck it up and pay out of pocket because of an crime COMMITTED UPON THEM? Gotcha. Got love the victims support here. I can't even comment on the rest, as it will get me banned for going off on the pure ignorance of your post. Hope you never have a family member who goes through that. I want to see you pose the same hypothetical questions you threw out here because its real easy to talk the talk.

SuperClassy:Well he said victims could be liars to get free stuff. So they gotta pay. There is no way they could keep a history and say - hey that lady has had 3 rape abortions this year. I wonder if something is up.

Logic is befuddling to some I guess.
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On the internet you can be anything you want. Its strange that so many people choose to be stupid.---NBM.

Abortion, as a "necessary" procedure, is abused as it is. If it's "free" (because it's already covered), some may forgo contraceptives altogether (more than already ***

What's to stop a woman from putting in the insurance claim as "Rape" or "Incest"? There isn't any law that states that those offenses need be reported to law enforcement. You cannot force them to press charges/file a police report, so what is there to stop them from easily committing fraud to save a few hundred bucks (up to a couple thousand)? Why should insurance companies have to cover one night stands, casual encounters, "oops", "I don't really love you", "I hope your parents/boyfriend/husband/etc. don't find out", "He doesn't want me to keep it", "we can't afford it", "I want to keep partying", "I don't have a clue who's it is, so don't even know who to ask for child support", etc., etc. If the insurance required a report it could easily be said that "some guy" did it. False reports, unnecessary police work.

If the concern is rape/incest, then the answer isn't to help "facilitate" it by making it "go away", there should be far more severe penalties in place, such as castration.

First off, no one "uses abortions as contraceptives". You will never find one single person that goes "F condoms! F birth control! I just want to have an abortion every time instead!"Are they used to fix mistakes? Yea sure, but that's still last line of defense, not first line. Maybe you should talk to a girl that's had a D&E (clinical term for abortion), and ask her how awesome she felt for the days afterwards... ignore what she says about emotional trauma and just ask about the physical pain.

Second off, if you go to the police and say rape/incest, they HAVE to look into it, REGARDLESS of if you press charges. Even if they find bob the rapist and you say you dont want to press charges, they will do so anyways. Also, filing a fake police report is A CRIME and you will end up in jail.

Should insurance companies be FORCED to cover it? no. Should they anyways? Yea, probably. And most do. It should be left up to the company to decide and the customer to decide if they want that policy or not. Vote with your $$, the only way companies listen.