The trouble with Ali Baba is that they're 1. not all necessarily reputable vendors and 2. have minimum order requirements of typically 10-1,000 items. Although if you wanted to open a shop to sell this stuff, they're great (apparently).

Brouwland has an automated 1-BBL system that I always drool over. It's something like 80k. For that kinda coin, I can become debt-free, AND still keep my 5-gallon system. Still it's fun to dream.

The trouble with Ali Baba is that they're 1. not all necessarily reputable vendors and 2. have minimum order requirements of typically 10-1,000 items. Although if you wanted to open a shop to sell this stuff, they're great (apparently).

Brouwland has an automated 1-BBL system that I always drool over. It's something like 80k. For that kinda coin, I can become debt-free, AND still keep my 5-gallon system. Still it's fun to dream.

Dude, that's way overpriced. It has to be possible to build a 1-bbl automated system for way less than 80k. That's outrageous!I'd love to have a 1-bbl system someday and open a nanobrewery. Maybe eventually expand to a 5-bbl system.