For anyone reading this: Men do not want women taking over any industry or company because men are afraid they’ll out produce them or perform them or come up with more profitable ideas, no, men are afraid of women in the workplace because all they bring is misery, low morale, lawsuits based on false accusations, insanity in general, never ending useless meetings and all around stupidity and dysfunction and low productivity.

Even women hate working with other women. Put several cats in a small cage together and you’ll get the picture.

But we can all give a sigh of relief because women will NEVER dominate any industry and there are specific reasons why. The reasons are contained in female nature. Any female above admin in any corporate office can barely even show up for work on any consistent basis.

I know this sounds insane, but we thousands of clients and the vast majority of the companies wherein we have female contacts are rarely ever in. Many have taken off for a year at a tine. It’s like this well hidden, but giant secret that no one talks about and I don’t think a lot of people are even aware of because women are so stealth at covering up their deviance and so many people will cover for them.

In fact I’ve been trying to find other people who have seen this who deal with a large number of companies like I do.

They take off huge chunks of time- months even a year at a time then refuse to be at work before 11am and are gone by 2pm and never work on mon. or fri. then suddenly quits after a short time. Forever. Not just that job- all work completely.

Women really only want to work part time if at all – they just like the idea of work and a status title and do not want to make any commitment to anything or anyone- especially women now. That is their flaky nature. And yes, they are ALL like that- 98% of them. And they’re lazy and don’t want to ever try harder or get out of their comfort zone or take risks. Women are their own worst enemies.

This deserved to be highlighted. None of us are afraid that women are going to outperform us. If that was it, we wouldn’t care. Instead, we don’t want women taking a wrecking ball to entire industries.

42 Responses to “Why We Don’t Want Women Taking Over Tech Or Any Other Industry”

Well, after 30 years in industry working as an engineer this is actually pretty spot on. When selecting contractors we definitely take their female dynamic into account when evaluating the potential for future difficulties. Women bring a hard dollar liability in the real world, honey.

Ok. Men die sooner and less population. Dude matter of time before women kick ur butt in the office. Men show up late and can’t plan. They also don’t communicate. Bad for agile development. Your days are already numbered.

It’s about all that feminists can do, because real facts are almost never in their favor. Also, they love to use the “m” word (I see Emrald uses it in a post below) because it used to be really effective at silencing men. But no longer. They need another tact. Oh – and by the way – Emrald informed me in another post that she’s 16 years old. She told me she was a child of God, then called me a disgusting piece of shit. Cute huh? It’s nice to know that the next generation of feminists are every bit as misinformed and radical as the current ones. Gonna be a long battle guys…..

I don’t know what industry this guy is in, but in my company (insurance) the women work normal hours when they’re not on maternity leave. That’s not to say maternity leave isn’t an issue with some of them, it is, but 11 to 2? Don’t make me laugh. I’ve never seen anything remotely resembling that in insurance, health care analytics, software, health care, or law. Those are the businesses I’ve worked in.

They don’t like to work late. They don’t take initiative. They think “I tried” is a legitimate excuse to go home at 5 and blow an important deadline when management f***ed up and the men are working 70 hour weeks to pull it off. They’re not team players unless they think you’re an alpha male. Basically, warm bodies. But they are very good at showing up on time and staying until close of business. In many cases, that’s ALL they’re good at.

One exception I knew was a secretary who was the nerve center of a small consulting company, always available, always on the ball, always a great attitude. The Alpha male’s perfect girl Friday. She was 50 and unmarried and idolized her boss. I felt a little bad for her, but I sure respected her. Helluva nice lady too.

Gotta agree with other commenters – the OP is way out in the corn field. In my experience, women are more likely to shy away from tough projects and onerous responsibilities, and more likely to occupy their time with routine chores that could be automated.

Yeah, I went on one date with a girl programmer once. She worked at like CVS or something: Big time corporate leviathan IT. I was at a little startup that went nowhere. At the time I’d just learned yacc and was writing some useless toy interpreter for S&Gs, so I was burbling about stack frames and making closures work with the garbage collector (which I never did get right).

She wanted to know WHY. Well duh: It was cool, and I’d never done it, so it was even cooler. She primly informed me that she enjoyed writing code she already knew how to write. And process. She loved process.

She wasn’t what I call a programmer at all. I bet she’s earning more than me now, too. That’s life. If I were her, I’d kill myself.

Goober wrote:so I was burbling about stack frames and making closures work with the garbage collector (which I never did get right).

If you want to understand closures well I’d recommend a mainstream language where they’re commonly used, such as JavaScript. Yes, I realize that you’re trying to implement them in a DSL (as opposed to just using them) but I think it would be helpful to get a mental model by setting up closures in JavaScript and perhaps use a tool like FireBug to go through them.

She primly informed me that she enjoyed writing code she already knew how to write.

That’s been my experience with almost all of the female programmers I’ve worked with. They may acquire some competence with one technology but don’t try to branch out and seem remarkably incurious. That’s ok for a day-job level of competence but it’s basically impossible to get top-level performance without a level of passion.

There’s also the odd racial/ethnic divide. It strikes me as pretty weird that most female developers I’m acquainted with come from countries with rigidly defined sex roles.

And process. She loved process.

The blog entry below references an article by Tom DeMarco, who has concluded that well defined processes have contributed very little to the real-world productivity of software developers. Management has spent decades attempting to convert programming to an assembly-line process and has astonishingly little to show for it.

Why don’t you men get a real job out working with tough stuff and leave the butt cube sitting to us gals. Programming does not use any special male brain power.ur all sissies. Cry babies. Men of old days would be ashamed of ur whining.

Plus, anyone who says ‘ur’ instead of ‘You are’ is definitely not a good software engineer. These indicators are very accurate.

Because the thick layer of blubber that covers the womanly behinds of ‘you gals’ doesn’t qualify you to be an effective programmer.

These hags think that pressing a freshly printed page of code (written by a man) onto their butt so the ink makes an imprint temporary tatoo of the code, and then twerking with said tatoo in full display, comprises working in tech.

Gotta agree with other commenters – the OP is way out in the corn field

I have seen that behavior a few times with a very dysfunctional (female) boss. But most of the time, the women will adopt the rules of their co-workers in terms of hours worked and will complain bitterly about anybody who (they believe) tries to beat the system. Female herding has a way of overcoming tendencies towards laziness.

In my experience, women are more likely to shy away from tough projects and onerous responsibilities

It’s called being risk-averse. I guess it comes with the territory – women are optimized for picking up things that stay in one place and don’t bite back, while men evolved to kill strong, fast creatures that didn’t want to become dinner.

and more likely to occupy their time with routine chores that could be automated.

Spot on. Of course, when management realizes most of those tasks could be far more efficiently handled with software they’ll slowly but surely be squeezed out. That’ll leave the obnoxious tasks not so easily subject to automation.

“Of course, when management realizes most of those tasks could be far more efficiently handled with software they’ll slowly but surely be squeezed out. That’ll leave the obnoxious tasks not so easily subject to automation.”

It wont happen. Feminist will find a way to make sure men are the majority of layoffs. Look at the pressure they are bringing against Google.

Hey PMAFT, I sent you an email thru your ‘Contact” form sometime last week. Did you get that?

It wont happen. Feminist will find a way to make sure men are the majority of layoffs.

Yeah it will, once it hits a tipping point of economic inefficiency. Feminists got a lot of traction by being ‘useful idiots’ who could aid the government and for-profit enterprises in extracting resources from men. What do you think is going to happen when that utility comes to an end?

Look at the pressure they are bringing against Google.

Software companies tend to deal with that either by staying small or hiring token women (usually with much fanfare) that face the public. Women have been losing ground for decades despite the constant push to get more women into programming.

“I don’t know what industry this guy is in, but in my company (insurance) the women work normal hours when they’re not on maternity leave”

Well what I do is work for a telecom and I’m in sales – so we have clients in virtually ALL industries and/or go to pitch potential clients in all industries. And I’ve been at it for 6 years total and with any females who have an actual title like IT Manager, VP or any kind of administrative anything, they are extremely clever at barely putting in any hours – I know because it’s my job (unfortunately) to have to deal with so many of them on a daily basis and communicate with them.

They’re extremely flaky, moody, never want any responsibilities at all to make any decisions, barely ever come into work, are as useless pedals on a wheelchair, spiteful, condescending, vindictive- the most horrible people I have ever had to deal with have all been women. And the vast majority of them are all the same in their patterns.

They’re overemotional about everything so they come off even creepy a lot of the time! With the men, it’s about 2-5% of them are jerks, flip that for women to about 2-5% of them are decent. That’s just been my experience dealing with all these women in virtually every industry there is.

And they are always just… OUT. Whether it’s ‘not in yet’ ‘already left for the day.’ Not in ‘today.’ ‘Out till next week.’ If I had 25 cents for every time I’ve heard ‘she’ is ‘out’ I would be wealthy, and no, they’re not just trying to avoid me and lying- they’ll actually be out, you can hear the sincerity in the voice of whoever’s telling me this that day.

Ironically female real estate agents are a rarer breed because they’re that noble strain of women who are the hardcore sales types, they have a quota and are tough and wouldn’t you know I get along much better with that type. But the vast majority of women gravitate towards positions with no expectations or pressure at all and produce nothing. Especially non profits and government positions (they’re favorites)

I’ve encountered a VAST amount of women in every industry and what I listed are consistencies I’ve seen. Women who are hardcore IT type nerds I wouldn’t doubt come in every day, but I look at employee directories of companies all day and women are just in far less vital positions in companies than most people would expect.

I’m always trying to tell people that it’s only really about 5% of women who have moved up the ranks and are doing the Feminist dream. Maybe 10%. The U.S. Dept of Labor shows a much different reality from TV, movies and advertising to women.
Top 20 Professions More Women Are in Than Any Others:http://www.dol.gov/wb/factsheets/20lead2010.htm

In fact a lot of people are shocked to find that secretary is still the no.1 job more women are in than another in the 21st century. This list shows women doing all the same exact jobs they were doing 50 years ago!

And I would expect it’s their being allergic to work that has kept them from really achieving anything across the board. And it’s ironically BECAUSE of Feminism that made them this way- everyone needs to make special ‘concessions’ for them and bend to them, not them needing to bend to fit in and join the work flow.

If you ask me, I say all of this .. Feminism, everything women are up to now, all of it, is mostly just a fraud and illusion and I’m telling you this thing of women being OUT all the time is real! Go to any company website in any industry, go to the staff directory, or go to Data.com connect and look up the staff directory for any company, then call and ask for any of the females above admin on that list and they will just happen to be out that day!

And it’ll be like Tuesday at 11am. It’s this phenomenon that I’ve been trying to tell people about for years, but they just don’t believe me or don’t understand what I’m talking about. They think that can’t possibly be true; that they would be fired for missing that much time.. and they are! I also see and insane amount of turnover and women not lasting more than 6 months or a year. But them a lot of the time I suspect there’s the fear of lawsuits when firing women for missing too much work.

“This is bullsh*t. You based all the information on stereotypes. This is sexist, too. Wow. I’m ashamed of you people.”

No, it’s actually the truth based on vast experience with a vast amount or women in every industry. You didn’t even attempt to tell me I was wrong or was lying.. why?

Because you and everyone else knows I’m right. Instead you stoop to the very lowest possible level and simply start throwing meaningless names, like throwing poo like a monkey. I would have actually respected you much more if you had called me a liar.

But someone like you labeling someone speaking the truth a name in order to distract from the truth is someone extremely untrustworthy and of the lowest possible character and certainly not someone I would ever associate with, not even have casual sex with (especially that) because you are someone capable of false accusations. You’re much like far too many women in the U.S… a fraud.

And that’s what I and millions of men are standing up to and calling out; the phoniness and lies of women in the U.S. The illusions, deceptions, half truths, misinformation, the CON. It has absolutely nothing to do with liking or disliking women specifically and everything to do with not accepting LIES. And you know that, yet incredibly you misdirect and CON even more.

Men do not tolerate lies and cons from each other and we’re not going to tolerate it from women any longer because we truly want equality. You want a dictatorship where you can exploit and use us any way you want and be above criticism and live your entire lives based on lies and cons. Those days are over. Start getting used to it.

“Eighty percent of success is showing up.” When Woody Allen said that, I guarantee he was referring to women.

Apparently being in Telecom Sales doesn’t give you a background in rational thinking, a familiarity with logical fallacies or a clue what the words “evidence” or “anecdotal” actually mean. It apparently does give you the impression that your opinion is magically proof just because you have it.

Most amazing is your ability to type while clutching your pearls so tightly.

Pro Tip: the people who are not in all the time when you call? They actually are in. They just don’t want to talk to a Telecom sales guy.

More woman hating nonsense. I can’t believe the amount of hate groups on the net directed towards women. It’s as if some of you men are so engaged in circle jerk hatred of women, it’s hard to believe that you actually want the rest of us to believe you are straight…and this means there’s some bad gay closet cases out there…very sad.

Since when is pointing out that some men are closeted ‘gay shaming?’ Did you not pick up on the rampant misogyny here? Last time I heard, feminists are accused of being lesbians and no one bats an eye. Since when is the MRA community banning gay men? They aren’t…My contentions are that if you think that hating women is ‘typical’ hetero behavior, than you are wrong. Being a man who loves woman, I can say if a man sits there and hates on women all night, YES I QUESTION HIS SEXUAL PREFERENCE. That is NOT gay shaming. Funny how you are all for defending gay men on this board but you have no problem with the misogynistic details of this site. I think that makes you a hypocrite andybob.

“I can say if a man sits there and hates on women all night, YES I QUESTION HIS SEXUAL PREFERENCE. That is NOT gay shaming.”

So, according to you, gay men are only gay because we are evil misogynists who hate and reject women. That is some seriously hateful shit. I see that you have been reading your feminist textbooks, like a good boy, because that is their standard mantra on gay men.

Feminists like you try to gay-shame straight men because, next to ‘all men are rapists’, it’s the most sinister accusation feminist can think of. It is homophobia in its truest sense. Careful, people might think you’re a bigot.

Wow, I thnk the using sweeping and utterly implausible arguments like 98% of women are lazy and don’t want to work makes you sound like a raging moron. But I guess that is the general tenor of this whole blog, and its readership…

I hereby nominate reality forever for the yearly award for the post which demonstrates the highest possible degree of cluelessness about the actual cause of the phenomenon he describes.

\He doesn’t seem to recognize that “Out” is polite woman-speak for “my boss doesn’t have time to discuss a decision that will be made by some low-level tool in purchasing with a sorry-ass misogynistic cold-call salesman.”

Stupidass. I spelled Emrald that way on purpose. It’s the name of my fish. And this website is full of misogynist trash. It should be banned from the internet. And there are many exceptions of women being ‘low in production’ and other bullshit you said. There are no real statistics here.