There's many ways of lying a fire. A lot of people get really fancy about it, building up a teepee of sticks and a log cabin of sticks, but really that's just a waste of time and just fanciful. So, there's no real need for it. It's one of those things I guess, that's come along in later years with so-called bushcraft skills. They feel they need to make more effort to do something, when really no effort is needed

"fanciful', LMAO. I love this guys attitude.

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I have no sound, it looks to me like he made a teepee lay. or maybe a lean to lay, lol! No matter what it has to start with small stuff and build to bigger stuff unless you're using an accelerant.

Did you mean you don't have sound on comp or whatever, or that you just couldn't hear this video?

I meant to say something about low sound, need to turn it up all the way in settings if you're as deaf as me.

Here's the full transcript.

0:07 / 11:02Transcripthello someone a while back asked me toshow how i layer fire not just lightingit there's many ways of lying a fire alot of people get really fancy about itbuilding up a teepee of sticks and and alog cabin of sticks but really that'sjust a waste of time and just fancifulit so there's no real need for it it'sone of those things I guess that's comealong in later years with so-calledbushcraft skills I feel they need tomake more effort to do something reallyno effort is needed i'll show you how iam i lay a fire today normally old i'lldig out a bit of a fire pit sometimesquite deep it helps contain the fire idon't get a she's blowing around theplace and it's just something i've gotused to doing i can fill it in a frizencover up the fire and then you probablywould he know I've been there I alwaysuse a rocks around because it not onlycontains the fire but it puts the heatreflects the heat back into my shelterand when I'm camping in winter which I Imostly do in winter rather than summerit's winter now actually but no snow isyetthen I need a fire to keep me warm Ionly only travel with one blanket so I Ineed the fire to keep me warm on reallycold nights and I need it within reachso I laid my fire close to the close tothe shelter and I'll build myself a pileof sticks where and firewood close by soI don't have to get out of my bedrolland I can just collect the sticks atnight and throw it on the fire and keepit going usually when it dies down andgets real cold I start to feel the coldand that wakes me up so I can stoke thefire okay let's get on with it all I'lltake some closer shots of where I putthe fire and then we'll I'll show youhow I actually like here you canactually see the rocks around myfireplace and that's where I'll belaying the fire just inside there on theother side of those rocksjust taking some bark off this stringybark tree here to use for kindling andover there you can see I've got somemountain gum bark on the other side andtwo different sizes of sticks there andthen here I got some dry grass and I'vegot a pile of the larger sticks behindme what one side of me I've got to I'mstarting another pile of other stickswhich I will carry on and build up lateron and i always put some in the back ofyour shelter and you got your oilclothup get a pile of kindling and andwhatever you need to restart a fire ifit dies down to coals and the night andif it rains or snows then you're goingto be in trouble if you haven't gottenit in handy so put it in the back ofyour shoulder first up and it's therethen in the night if you were if youhave to restart the fire here's thehere's the stringy back and we just pullit apartrough it up a bit and make some kindlingfor starting the fire take a knee downthere you can see I've got some I putsome logs down here some some largerpieces of wood right here and what I'mgoing to do with that take some get afew bigger sticks we'll just lay on thebottom don't have to do this but justsomething that I doand I get some get some twigs or in thiscase I'm putting up some mountain gum xmountain gum vanakkam any of the ribbonbar trees this sort of stuff is reallygood this is for Australia of course youyou've no doubt got other stuff overseasin other countries that you can useafter I put that on there I'll put sometwigs on the reason I'm doing this ofcourse is that it gives me a gapunderneath here and it allows there toget underneath this when it catches firethere's no good if you if you like afire directly on the ground and thenstart putting stuff on it there's achance that you're actually going tosmother it and put it out so you canbuild this up is pretty much as much asyou're like right up frontsome heavier stuff on it it's not goingto crush anything because it's upagainst the log at the end and there's agap underneath or baton so it's noproblem okay that's the first part doneno we've actually got to make fireyou

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There are all manner of ways to lay a fire......depending on intended use, prevailing conditions, ground moisture, wind, regionally available tinders, etc., but I didn't find this guy's setup & methods particularly great to emulate. From his blowing of air away FROM the grass nest TO the spark & ember in the tinder box....and then the draft-robbing, solid 'roof' of bark pieces with no pathways for oxygen to carry the flame up through to the larger twig-kindling pieces. No easy path for the flames to spread easily & efficiently to all areas of the fuel were provided.....nearly all of that precious initial heat-blast from the fine tinder was lost out the left side of the lay before igniting the bark. In essence, he was retarding the fire by smothering it with fuel and not providing sufficient airways for fast & efficient combustion.

Anyway, he probably got his fire going OK and roasted his wienie without further incident........OR criticism from me!

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I'm pretty sure I have not seen the vids or infos that prompted Keith's comments about extra work. In general I don't think it is extra work to lay sticks one way or another or this way rather than that. I do think one should have enough fires built and burnt that whatever and however has become a more or less intuitive process reacting to the material at hand and its potential

Looks like he got his fire going OK to me. For those of you who don't know or don't remember, Keith H is a member here.

Many thanks imnukensc, your comment is much appreciated. Amazing how some people get their feathers ruffled when they see someone doing something different to the way they do it! Why is this a big deal? Why do people feel they have to put someone down? Does my video make them feel inferior? Belittled?The mind boggles.Time to move on I think, very disappointing.Keith.

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Looks like he got his fire going OK to me. For those of you who don't know or don't remember, Keith H is a member here.

Many thanks imnukensc, your comment is much appreciated. Amazing how some people get their feathers ruffled when they see someone doing something different to the way they do it! Why is this a big deal? Why do people feel they have to put someone down? Does my video make them feel inferior? Belittled?The mind boggles.Time to move on I think, very disappointing.Keith.

For the rest of the members here Keith I apologize for the rude behavior of Weedeater, it's what he does and who he is, maybe when he grows up he'll gain some manners. Your input and shared knowledge are welcome and appreciated here my friend, please keep it coming.

For the rest of the members here Keith I apologize for the rude behavior of Weedeater, it's what he does and who he is, maybe when he grows up he'll gain some manners. Your input and shared knowledge are welcome and appreciated here my friend, please keep it coming.

God bless, Moe

Excuse you?

What's your problem now?

I posted this as a testament to being right minded like Keith, and in protest to the pretentious nature of a lot of people concerning fire lays.

Where do you get off jackass?

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It is time to refuse to tiptoe around people who claim respect, consideration, special treatment, on the grounds that they have a religious faith, as if having faith were a privilege endowing virtue, as if it were noble to believe in unsupported claims and ancient superstitions. - A.C. Grayling

For the rest of the members here Keith I apologize for the rude behavior of Weedeater, it's what he does and who he is, maybe when he grows up he'll gain some manners. Your input and shared knowledge are welcome and appreciated here my friend, please keep it coming.

God bless, Moe

Excuse you?

What's your problem now?

I posted this as a testament to being right minded like Keith, and in protest to the pretentious nature of a lot of people concerning fire lays.

Where do you get off jackass?

Reported...not called for......

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Geezer Squad, Evoking the 50 year old rule..First 50 years, worried about the small stuff, second 50 years....Not so much

For the rest of the members here Keith I apologize for the rude behavior of Weedeater, it's what he does and who he is, maybe when he grows up he'll gain some manners. Your input and shared knowledge are welcome and appreciated here my friend, please keep it coming.

God bless, Moe

Reported...not called for......

Agreed, it certainly wasn't. I'm not one to go crying to mommy every time some jerkwad acts like a jackass though.

Can't imagine what manner of demons are creeping around in his head that he thinks he needs to apologize for me for posting a video.

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You want to tell me what exactly I did to warrant Moe's asinine comment?

You are barking up the wrong tree buddy.

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