Anonymous, 02 Mar 2018I think it's super hilarious you're all knocking sealed batteries when there is a high chance ... moreLet me say something about your chance choosing a new phone. You can agree many times with several specs and features. Has then always the suitable correlation with as, for example, minimum 4.000 mAh sealed battery ?

I think it's super hilarious you're all knocking sealed batteries when there is a high chance your next phone will have one.

Again, both sealed and user removable batteries have their pros and cons, one is not better than the other but I *personally* prefer the advantages of a sealed battery considering all my phones before this one had user removable batteries and I didn't really see any advantage to it. I just want the biggest possible battery in my phone and don't want to have to carry around powerbanks or spare batteries and not have to put my phone into silly zerolemon case that would turn my phone into the size of a small brick. btw there are zerolemon cases for phones with sealed batteries, too.

I suppose I should buy a 20 year old used car because cars then didn't have so many fancy electronics and were more owner serviceable and had a full size spare in the boot!

Speaking about phones with removable batteries I totally agree with you as it is a big advantage.Cos I have had a few phones and have been using them for long term thanks to being battery removable.The one which I had before my V20 was G3, which I have been using since 2014.When the battery started dying it would go into reboots cos of dying battery and imagine what if battery wasn't removable.But I changed the battery (MPJ) and bingo it works as it used and Im still using it.The bottom line, I go for removable battery rather than waterproof

Anonymous, 23 Feb 2018While the v30's battery isn't "hot swappable", there are youtube videos of users demonstrating... moreOh, and forgot to mention that while the battery is guaranteed to fail over time, most people don't crack the screen of their phones.

Anonymous, 23 Feb 2018While the v30's battery isn't "hot swappable", there are youtube videos of users demonstrating... moreYou are just trying to justify the non-removable battery concept, because your phone has non-removable battery. After about 2 years, the degradation of batteries exponentially speed up. It means the phone will be less and less usable. And not everyone want to waste money on new phones every 2 years. Not everyone obey to the planned obsolescence.

Also, if the phone manufacturer/service no longer supports the phone, they won't replace the battery or make new battery anymore, you are out of luck with your non-removable battery phone. With non-removable battery, you're dependent on the OEM. That's why the other big advantage of removable battery is that 3rd party manufacturers will still continue to make batteries for phones. That's why you still can buy new battery for very old phones like Nokia 7650, HTC HD2. The another advantage of removable battery is that 3rd party manufacturers can produce higher capacity extended batteryies, for example the ZeroLemon 10 000mAh extended battery for V20. You can't insert bigger battery into non-removable battery phones.

If your S3 had non-removable battery, your problem would have been bigger, because you would have not been able to replace the battery at all. Moreover, if the service replaces your non-removable battery to a fake one, you are in a much worse situation.

You wrongly think that sealed battery means longer battery life. Because that's not the case.

Waterproofing and wireless charging are useless gimmicks. Most people never expose their phones to water. And in the service center in order to replace the non-removable battery, they have to damage the waterproofing. Also there is a high chance that they will damage other parts / body of the phone in the disassembling / reassembling process. It's also much more expensive than just buying a new battery.

There are no circumstances in which the non-removable battery is acceptable.

The analogy between a multipurpose pocket knife and the V20 has been established several times in this forum.
It differs, substantially, that each of the pieces of the knife is for emergency situations, while each of the functions and characteristics of the V20 have the intrinsic quality of "specialised tool".

Weezo, 26 Feb 2018Now downloading new software update...hope it would be oreo and not just a security patch...lg... moreI've just had the same update, unfortunately no Oreo yet, is just another security patch from 1st of Jan 2018 .... Disappointing .....

Anonymous, 23 Feb 2018While the v30's battery isn't "hot swappable", there are youtube videos of users demonstrating... morei've changed my battery twice. the second time was when i gave my mom the phone and installed a fresh battery for her.

Phone is very solid both psychically and software wise. Clearing cache with built in cleaner does crash some apps on first launch but usually isn't much of an issue. Cameras are both very great, 16mp main taking some phenomenal images out in the day while the 8mp wide lacks the wider aperture but still takes a great image if the scene has a good amount of light. Manual mode on both video and for pictures does exactly what you'd expect. Very handy for when auto mode doesn't give you what you want. Night shots are good but it's much better to use a sort of tripod if possible. Instagram seems to be the only misbehaving app I've used with crashes few and far between. Getting a battery case is highly advised as the back of the phone is removable. Battery cases are such a life saver and they help add weight when trying to steady yourself to take pictures/video. Again, very solid phone and would highly recommend it as the prices have dropped significantly!

Anonymous, 23 Feb 2018While the v30's battery isn't "hot swappable", there are youtube videos of users demonstrating... moreI agree that is a good compromise larger sealed batteries, but you can improve it, as for example a 6.400 mAh extended battery to the V20, even improving the grip.

Anonymous, 23 Feb 2018V30 is worse, because that doesn't have removable battery.While the v30's battery isn't "hot swappable", there are youtube videos of users demonstrating how to open up the back of the phone and replace the battery.

My last two phones were both LG with removable batteries and I never bought or replaced the battery for them throughout the time I was using them. Now I'm using a phone with a larger, sealed in battery and if after two years if I need to take it to a shop and pay them $50 to replace the battery I'm actually quite ok with that. Funny people spend hundreds to replace a cracked screen but freak out at the idea of paying $50 to replace a battery. Apple's only charging $29 now to replace batteries in iPhones with is super reasonable and I have a feeling other manufacturers are going to start following suit, so much for "planned obsolescence".

I'm all for removable batteries, but battery life off one charge is still more important. Everyone has their needs and uses but for me I'd rather have a phone with a larger sealed in battery than a phone with a smaller removable battery. When the phone is also a unibody sealed design it also makes incorporating waterproofing and wireless charging a lot easier, too. I also don't like how when you have removable batteries it generally leads to markets being flooded with fake batteries which was so frustrating with my S3 it was impossible to find a legit battery for it in the developing country I was working in at the time.

Anonymous, 23 Feb 2018V30 is worse, because that doesn't have removable battery.And without exclusive slot to micro SD, without IR blaster and with 18:9 screen ratio.
LG mobile regretted to distance itself from the policy of programmed obsolescence with the V20, correcting with the V30.