Why Masons do not worship Lucifer (or Satan)

Hi Helen, I went back all the way to the Egyptians and the Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, etc.

I think you do not understand me!! For the last 2000 years they have lied against Yeshua in every language. Since the new times English has become
the spoken language world wide and reason they used English also to go against YESHUA.
Paul is 100% FAKE AND A SPY who wrote the fake Christian Religion.HE IS NOT PART OF THE 12 APOSTLES WHICH WERE ALL KILLED.

I do not want to get Into Budha to deep with you, as this this forum is about Mason's AND ALSO YOU WILL NOT UNDERSTAND.

Hi dave 13/
Thanks for trying to make me understand!
I agree only with this part of your quote// ''Since the new times English has become the spoken language world wide and reason they used English
also to go against YESHUA.'' (end quote)
The English language has made many changes....
Yes, this is not the forum to discuss different subjects matter!

Originally posted by ExuLucifer
I think while you belong to your jurisdiction thats fine, but this idea that because of some document that someone created that was changed to begin
with doesnt make you any more regular than anyone else. This is exactly why your lodges will eventually die out.

I would not want to be a part of any jurisdiction that did not adhere to the Landmarks. They are the reason I joined. As for dying out, maybe, but we
have grown each of the three last years for a reason.

Again "of its jurisdiction" of the self contained entity that created it. Its kind of like the idea of exclusive territorial
jurisdiction.

Who cares, I only associate myself with those with open minds. I'm not bound by what a "jusidiction" wants. You are probably opposed to Prince Hall
Masonry aren't you? Very open minded and accepting of men you are. Knowledge is there for all to find. Praise Enki for the knowledge he brought and
the light he shines for humans.

Originally posted by EnkiTheKing
Who cares, I only associate myself with those with open minds. I'm not bound by what a "jusidiction" wants. You are probably opposed to Prince Hall
Masonry aren't you? Very open minded and accepting of men you are. Knowledge is there for all to find. Praise Enki for the knowledge he brought and
the light he shines for humans.

Sipus Maxus Tipus

Prince Hall is clandestine in my district, but personally I have a couple of friends who are Prince Hall Masons and very good representatives of the
fraternity!

I don't know what you mean by "open minds." Does this mean you have no convictions of your own? Aren't there certain moral lines that need to be
drawn in order for you to call yourself a Mason? Due bounds?

If you are not bound by the laws and rules of your jurisdiction, then in fact you are no Mason, and if you are a member of a Masonic Lodge with that
attitude, you are in violation of your obligations and should be removed from the fraternity.

What is subjective about honoring a voluntary obligation? One doesn't have to be a "self-appointed lawyer" to know what obligation they took. It
is outrageous for you to think that every single Mason doesn't know exactly what they agreed to upon accepting their each of their three
obligations.

We agree to peacably abide by the laws of our jurisdiction. If one cannot do that, then they should not agree to the obligation.

Of course, if the jurisdiction completely derailed and went into cuckoo land, then any moral person would realize it was time to cut their ties, and
cease to be a member, and therefore not violate their obligation nor contribute to an immoral organization. But as long as the jurisdiction is acting
justly and upright, then every brother should honor their obligation and submit peacably to those laws.

What is subjective about honoring a voluntary obligation? One doesn't have to be a "self-appointed lawyer" to know what obligation they took. It
is outrageous for you to think that every single Mason doesn't know exactly what they agreed to upon accepting their each of their three
obligations.

What is subjective is the notion of self appointed regularity if you care to actually follow what has been going on in the discussion.

Originally posted by ExuLucifer
Then what are you doing in Masonry where you are obligated to adhere to your Grand Lodge's edicts and regualtions?

It's called being a free thinker. You can belong to something, and not believe 100% of what you are told. That in my opinion makes you a sheep.

Sure, I am a member of the United States of America, and the State of Florida, but i don't agree with speed limits, prostitution laws, most of my
taxes, the interstate commerce clause, and any number of other things. BUT, I still abide by them, lest I have my rights as a citizen encumbered with
fines and jail time!

It is easy to call yourself a free-thinker, but much more difficult to continue to stay a productive member of any group while ignoring the very laws
that define that group.

Actually you do. Refusing to do so is plagiarism as the words printed look like they are your own and are not attributed to the original author.
Also, you agreed to abide by the terms and conditions of this site upon joining, and they outline the proper use of the quote tags, and demand proper
attribution to source material.

I know you don't like following rules, because you are a "free-thinker," but intentionally being obtuse to the rules will probably get your
free-thinking ass shown to the door.

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