Chris Clemons was fined $15,750 for roughing the passer, unnecessarily driving Carolina quarterback Cam Newton to the ground after he threw the ball down the field, according to the league. Clemons drew a personal foul penalty on the play.

Gotta say I'm not surprised...it was pretty blatant and unnecessary to drive him to the ground like he did on that particular play.

That is a horrible hoe edible horrible fine. Been the roughing the passer was bad, but I understand it. Clemons head was down and Newton had the ball when he launched. He could not see whether Newton had merely pump faked and was still in possession of the ball or not.

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Bah, stop whining, everyone. Clemons deserves this fine, and we all know it. I could have barbecued ribs between the time the ball left Newton's hand and Clemons made contact with him. Ignorance is not a defense in a case like this, i.e., lowering your head so you can't see the QB when you're still a mile away.

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bestfightstory wrote:That is a horrible hoe edible horrible fine. Been the roughing the passer was bad, but I understand it. Clemons head was down and Newton had the ball when he launched. He could not see whether Newton had merely pump faked and was still in possession of the ball or not.

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It's not so much the timing of the hit, I thought that was borderline ok, it was the way he drove him into the ground that drew the flag. It was over the top even if he had the ball (although I think the league should and may have let it go had he been holding the ball), but with the ball already gone, the driving him into the turf becomes even more unnecessary

bestfightstory wrote:That is a horrible hoe edible horrible fine. Been the roughing the passer was bad, but I understand it. Clemons head was down and Newton had the ball when he launched. He could not see whether Newton had merely pump faked and was still in possession of the ball or not.

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It's not so much the timing of the hit, I thought that was borderline ok, it was the way he drove him into the ground that drew the flag. It was over the top even if he had the ball (although I think the league should and may have let it go had he been holding the ball), but with the ball already gone, the driving him into the turf becomes even more unnecessary

Well. We disagree, then. And that's fine. Cam Newton is an incredibly powerful QB. I think Clem did what he needed to do. Had he rag-dolled a twerp like our QB I think your argument would have.....more weight?

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The problem is having your head down when hitting a quarterback. You just can't do it. You can look at the quarterback's feet and say, "I didn't know he threw the ball." Under the rules that just doesn't cut it. It was a good play Clem, just pick your head up next time (or buy Goodell another car).

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It's no wonder the guys with big hands are so effective at pump faking. The defense has to respect the pump and lay off. Those guys like Big Ben with the hard pump fakes are made more effective.

I understand the rule, and I appreciate keeping QB's safe. I have no problem with Clemon's fine, it's just the way the game is today. It's like the rule regarding going in too low below the knees when attacking the QB. The target to hit for the Defense is getting smaller and smaller. With QB's it's above the knees and low enough on the chest so your helmet don't slide into the QB's grill. Guys are going to have to learn to square up, drop your butt and wrap up your target instead of trying to knock the snot out of these guys.

Starrman44 wrote:It's no wonder the guys with big hands are so effective at pump faking. The defense has to respect the pump and lay off. Those guys like Big Ben with the hard pump fakes are made more effective.

I understand the rule, and I appreciate keeping QB's safe. I have no problem with Clemon's fine, it's just the way the game is today. It's like the rule regarding going in too low below the knees when attacking the QB. The target to hit for the Defense is getting smaller and smaller. With QB's it's above the knees and low enough on the chest so your helmet don't slide into the QB's grill. Guys are going to have to learn to square up, drop your butt and wrap up your target instead of trying to knock the snot out of these guys.

So, you're saying that they're going to have to learn to tackle properly? Man, what a concept!

...but how are they supposed to do that when the new CBA says they're not allowed to hit eachother in practice?

thing is, roughing the passer is a rule that's never sit well with me, fair enough the QB is the top dog - you want to protect him because he's the guy that everything revolves around basically. but i've never (and never will) feel happy about a penalty that applies for doing something to a player who plays a specific position. If we run a play fake and someone absolutely flattens Marshawn... what makes that different to flattening a player who threw the ball 0.5 seconds earlier??

Trent Cole was fined $7,500 for ending Russell Okung's season.Matt Slauson was fined $10,000 for ending Brian Cushing's season.Chris Clemons was fined $15,750!!! for planting Cam Newton on the turf (which he happened to get up from without a torn pec or busted knee).

I completely agree that it was a bonehead play by Clem, just wondering who comes up with the amount of these fines.

The Hawks need to stop getting stupid game killing penalties. That's one reason I'm glad BMW is gone. He added nothing but he sure took away. Stupid penalties are uncalled for and the fines should be more. These guys really need to be fined by the teams as well for putting the games and their team mates and fans in jeopardy of loss because of their stupidity. Breno needs to clean up his act. He needs to pay Tate and Wilson bucks for the great pass play that was negated. Nothing wrong with physical play as long as it is in the rules.

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The Hawks should have fined him even more for giving new life to a drive that should have died inside the 10 and should have given us a chance to score before the half ended. Clemons=good player, but that was a terrible decision.

Chris Clemons was fined $15,750 for roughing the passer, unnecessarily driving Carolina quarterback Cam Newton to the ground after he threw the ball down the field, according to the league. Clemons drew a personal foul penalty on the play.

Gotta say I'm not surprised...it was pretty blatant and unnecessary to drive him to the ground like he did on that particular play.

yeah but to hell with that noise, it's what he did with the play right after that was the ultimate. THE STUFF!!