I think you gain more with a balanced setup that gives the driver confidence, than lol crazy oversteer, because its really hard to get on the power, or your having to be on edge making constant corrections.

its very rare in nascar for a crazy loose car to be fastest, and it would in theory be far more viable there than in f1 or a downforce formula like indycar for example.

normaly a decent setup will have abit of slow speed oversteer, and then blending to abit of high speed understeer. idea being its more useful to over rotate at low speed, and that understeer at high speed helps you position the car and let it flow at highspeed

Having a more over steer capable makes the car able to grip in a wider range of corner shapes and corner speeds over the lap. The downside is that the driver has to be able to control the greater instability in the car that comes with it.

Oversteer does not equal unstable. It also depends on what you mean by oversteer. I think some here are confusing front oversteer which is basically more front bite than needed and how easy it is to rotate the car.

And there is no direct correlation between how easy it is to rotate the car and how stable the rear is either. Just because you may be able to slide the rear easier doesn't mean it is unstable.

I think you gain more with a balanced setup that gives the driver confidence, than lol crazy oversteer, because its really hard to get on the power, or your having to be on edge making constant corrections.

its very rare in nascar for a crazy loose car to be fastest, and it would in theory be far more viable there than in f1 or a downforce formula like indycar for example.

normaly a decent setup will have abit of slow speed oversteer, and then blending to abit of high speed understeer. idea being its more useful to over rotate at low speed, and that understeer at high speed helps you position the car and let it flow at highspeed

Bolded is completely correct, that is what you want if you can achieve it.

But it would need some clever design work. And you have the complicating factor of different fuel loads.

I know it’s off topic but for those of you who didn’t read it:http://www.netcarsho...012-p1_concept/I wish the Formula One car and team were just like that and the car had that much DF compared to other cars.

That's a complete waste of the Vodafone money, imo. I know they're a joint venture but if 60-70million people are watching worldwide and less than a million in one country, you'd favour the majority brand. You could still have Verizon on the car in a smaller role, like they did at Canada last year and I think Monaco(?).

That's a complete waste of the Vodafone money, imo. I know they're a joint venture but if 60-70million people are watching worldwide and less than a million in one country, you'd favour the majority brand. You could still have Verizon on the car in a smaller role, like they did at Canada last year and I think Monaco(?).

That's a complete waste of the Vodafone money, imo. I know they're a joint venture but if 60-70million people are watching worldwide and less than a million in one country, you'd favour the majority brand. You could still have Verizon on the car in a smaller role, like they did at Canada last year and I think Monaco(?).

1 - It's only on the car. Overalls / team name, etc. will still show Vodafone.2 - Vodafone just got a fat dividend from Verizon so they probably feel better about it.

Of course I wouldn't know for sure, but they are most likely guiding air towards the underbody. Red Bull, Sauber and Merc have all included them to their front wings so they must have some positive effect on the car.

Of course I wouldn't know for sure, but they are most likely guiding air towards the underbody. Red Bull, Sauber and Merc have all included them to their front wings so they must have some positive effect on the car.

Could they just be unsuited to this type of track? (i.e. for the McLaren, different cars have different aero philosophies so they may still be fine for RB/Sauber/Merc/...)

I don't know what happened to Lewis's speed from FP1 to FP2 but the car is sliding everywhere, McLaren doesn't seem like they are using their DRS in Turn 2 at all (lack of DF relative to Ferrari and RBR?) and they will be annihilated on the long straight by the Ferraris and Others should they fail to qualify on their frirst two rows.

I don't know what happened to Lewis's speed from FP1 to FP2 but the car is sliding everywhere, McLaren doesn't seem like they are using their DRS in Turn 2 at all (lack of DF relative to Ferrari and RBR?) and they will be annihilated on the long straight by the Ferraris and Others should they fail to qualify on their frirst two rows.

...atleast the long-runs at the end now looked very encouraging. Quickest, but you've always got to take that with a pinch of salt. However with Senna just eight tenths back there's a part of me that thinks McLaren has a good deal to gain ones more optimised for qualifying. (Yes, the same may STILL apply to REd Bull....)