Unrelated note, but I just realized today is the 10th anniversary of Layne Staley's death. Weird....I can vaguely remember when he died, because I just started getting into AIC shortly after. Can't believe it's been that long.

I was pissed and sad that I would never get to hear the new music that he would have made over the years. He was one of the best punk songwriters singers of all time. Kourtney obviously killed him anyway so.....oh well

I'm not looking for support. I just have no need to mourn an anniversary of somebody that meant nothing to me.
It's not like I threw a party and had cake (like we did when Jerry Garcia ate it).
Party with the dead dudes memory all you want. He means nothing to me.

I have no idea what you're talking about, but he only had 1/3 of his right middle finger. Do whatever math you want. What was your problem with Captain Trips? :(

...and, bringing it back around to why I started this thread, what was your beef with Staley? He didn't leave behind a child, he succumbed to addiction in a way far less hedonistically than most rock stars do.

Well...I don't like hippies, but I kind of like The Dead...I don't follow your logic at all. I mean, I don't like punk rockers, but I'm not going to celebrate when Tommy Ramone joins his bandmates or anything.

Hell no! We're drinking good beers and listening to classic rock n' roll all night long. I'll be all like "Jerry, my man!" and he wouldn't even have to say a word, he'd just wink. He's that cool. Like the Fonz but not as intimidatingly dangerous.

Provided, I'm not a *huge* Grateful Dead fan...come to think of it, I don't actually own any of their albums, so there are probably thousands of people more qualified than myself to party with Jerry. I do own his 1972 solo debut 'Garcia', though...really darn good, if I do say so myself.

I wouldn't even have remembered this had Skibz not brought it up but I think in Cobain's case the guy had a lot of mental health needs that were going untreated. I just feel a bit of compassion is all.

I'm almost inclined to agree. Having been suicidal myself, you reach a point of depression low enough that the welfare of your loved ones ceases to become a concern to you anymore. However...I'd have a really hard time believing this could be true in regards to a child. If I had the responsibility of a baby daughter, I'd have no choice but to muster all the emotional willpower I could to stay alive and be there for her, at least until I ate her. Then again, I don't know the specifics of Kurt's personal life or mental health, so I'm in no position to comment.

i know exactly how it feels to be like that. you know, i went through some heavy, suicidal depression back in college. when you're facing those kinds of troubles, and riding on the edge of the line, family and friends aren't on your mind. (at least for me...) it wasn't until after the fact that i found out how much i would have hurt them all. I was called selfish for almost doing that...

Come on ! The first 2 bands are some of the most generic shit I've ever heard. A copy of a copy of a copy of something that wasn't even that good to begin with. Kinda like every fuckin' band sounding like NOFX in the 90s. Almost everything else on the list is better.