Democrats are known for years for stuffing the ballot boxes in a number of heavily Democrat leaning counties in Florida.

Obama was reported to have won the state 4,236,032 votes to 4,162,174 for Romney, a margin of just 73,858 state wide out of more than 8.3 million votes cast. Obama's margin in Broward County alone was 263,698 votes, where he won 507,430 to 243,732 including several divisions where Obama more than 90 percent of the votes.

Here are the vote totals in the 778 divisions/precincts of Broward County, from the county's web site:

From the same county website:Registered Voters as of 11/19/2012 Democrat: 596,719 Republican: 260,045 Other: 288,098 Total: 1,144,862

DeaH:in this election, it is true that people were caught trying to vote twice, a poll worker was caught editing ballots, skeevy GOTV firms threw away voter registrations, tens of thousands of voters were improperly removed from the voting rolls, and a Secretary of State improperly installed experimental patches on voting machines just a week before the election. But all those things were done by Republicans. And they still lost.

This really bears repeating.

Pretty much every confirmed instance of impropriety or illegal activity in this election was perpetrated by Republicans. And they still lost.

And now they're accusing Democrats of fraud, on the basis of zero evidence, in states where Republicans control the statehouse and run the elections.

I like how he keeps saying, "Democrats are known for years for stuffing the ballot boxes in ______." Yet the Bush administration spent a lot of man-hours looking into voter fraud, and they found none. And, in this election, it is true that people were caught trying to vote twice, a poll worker was caught editing ballots, skeevy GOTV firms threw away voter registrations, tens of thousands of voters were improperly removed from the voting rolls, and a Secretary of State improperly installed experimental patches on voting machines just a week before the election. But all those things were done by Republicans. And they still lost.

The problem with this is it isn't surprising at all. Romney didn't have much of anything in his campaign to appeal to inner-city voters. The fact that his support was close to nil in some neighborhoods, honestly, is probably to be expected.

Conversely, if you go to deep red areas of the country, say rural Oklahoma or Wyoming or Idaho, you can find plenty of precincts in which Obama got zero votes, or one or two, compared to hundreds for Romney. That's not evidence of fraud either.

For me the best part about that post aside from how stupid it is, is that it requires hundreds, maybe thousands, of people to pull something like that off. And every single one of them has to keep it a secret.

The director of the CIA couldn't keep it a secret that he was banging some broad on the side but a nationwide vote fraud conspiracy? Easy peasy.

Noam Chimpsky:This guy is way underestimating the fraud that took place. Half the Democrat votes could be fraud, not to mention the Republican votes that weren't counted or switched to Democrat votes. I knew they had the machines fixed when they started the business about Romney fixing the machines. If you are making the accusation, you are free to engage in that exact behavior because the opposition will be on the defensive.

It's easy when most of the Republicans charged with safeguarding the elections are actually Democrats in disguise.

This is the second thread in two weeks based on a website from this guy in which the website was actively being skull farked by savvy Internet kids.

The first time I sorta felt bad for the guy but at this point I can't pity him. If he didn't know he was negligent before he sure should know now. Put down the cake and handle your business fella, this isn't anonymous hacking your site, you should have some basic level of security for god's sake.

The thing that keeps bothering me about this picture is how in-focus the tree is behind him. It's as if the camera's face-detect passed over that pasty doughy thing in the center and said "It...it's gotta be in the tree!"

Either that or it's a photoshop, i can tell by the pixels, etc.

More likely explanation is that it's cropped out of a picture with him beside someone else, and the camera focused on the middle of the scene = the trees between them in the background. Common problem with simple auto-focus systems. And it would of course be mean to suggest there were no recent pix of just the boy-wonder...

The Third Man:I'm particularly amused that Pennsylvania is one of the suspect states. Obama won it by close to 300,000 votes. The state has a Republican governor and Republican Secretary of State....obviously those guys really fell down on the job to have so many votes stolen from them right under their noses.

A judge halted their new voter ID law in the state; that's all the proof these people need to say the election was stolen.

I actually was talking to my mother's boyfriend about politics last week (bad move, I know) and he said it was a fact that Obama lost every state with voter ID laws on the books other than Virginia. Had to be polite but mentioned that I was pretty sure that Ohio had a voter ID law they just put in place so I wasn't sure he was correct. Looked it up later: Obama won Michigan, Florida, Hawaii, and New Hampshire (all require photo ID) as well as Virginia, Delaware, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Ohio, Colorado and Washington (require ID, but accept some non-photo ones).

Of course, he also told me I have to see "2016" if I really want to get what sort of person Obama really is.

Obama had more votes than Romney - therefore, voter fraud had to have occured.

The concept that the majority of voting citizens took a look at their party and said 'no' just doesn't occur to them does it? There has to have been some other reason - gifts, black solidarity, the gay mafia, something utterly unassociated with the Republican party, it's candidates, or it's platform.

If you simply start with the axiom that more voters wanted Mitt Romney as president than Barack Obama, it becomes clear, ipso facto, that there was massive vote fraud in the 2012 election. One simply has to look at the "official" popular vote total to see incontrovertible evidence of this fraud. And, from my experience, this is the most insidious version of fraud possible--the version whereby one of the candidates illegitimately convinces a majority of voters that they would prefer him as president, instead of their true choice.

I speak as someone who is a direct victim of this heinous electoral crime. Not only was I shamefully convinced by the Fraudster in Chief to cast my vote for him in the past election, I am still under this delusion that I prefer his re-election to the prospect of a Mitt Romney presidency. I don't know if our nation will ever heal

The Third Man:I'm particularly amused that Pennsylvania is one of the suspect states. Obama won it by close to 300,000 votes. The state has a Republican governor and Republican Secretary of State....obviously those guys really fell down on the job to have so many votes stolen from them right under their noses.

I'm particularly amused that Pennsylvania is one of the suspect states. Obama won it by close to 300,000 votes. The state has a Republican governor and Republican Secretary of State....obviously those guys really fell down on the job to have so many votes stolen from them right under their noses.