69gnarkill69:This guy's herd is attacked by wolves and he's the asshole.

The guy's heard wasn't "attacked" by wolves. It was harried slightly.

The sheep killed themselves. The fact they were ABLE to bunch up tight enough to kill each other raises SERIOUS questions about herd density and geography. The fact the wolves weren't run off by shepherds or rams is the other ball dropping.

This guy isn't a rancher, he's a warehouse owner who thought sheep are just living shipping containers. fark him.

69gnarkill69:doglover: Explodo: And people wonder why ranchers attempted to prevent the wolves from being reintroduced. That's a significant financial hit.

Good. Hopefully the asshole who owned them goes out of business and has to take up another occupation where they're not responsible for others' lives.

This guy's herd is attacked by wolves and he's the asshole. City folk are so funny.

You plop your ranch in the middle of a predator's habitat, raise animals that have been bred over centuries to be dumb as fark, place them in convenient pens that the aforementioned predator can trap the dumbass animals inside...and you get pissed at wolves for doing what comes naturally?

Whatever...now the ranchers have a convenient excuse to go on a wolf-killing spree.

That's the idea, right?

When I was little (like, Kindergarten little) my family lived on a cattle ranch. One night a mountain lion got into the maternity pens and killed 2 of the week-olds before dad could get out there. The lion ran off without his dinner, so it went to another ranch and took one of those calves.

The next day was an exciting one for mini-me as I got to ride along while all the ranchers and farmers in the area got their guns and Jeeps and were heading out to kill that mountain lion. Even the local Sheriff got into the action. (most likely just trying to direct traffic and keep everyone out of their own fields of fire.)

Mountain lion must have wanted nothing to do with a bunch of armed ranchers, because I don't think anyone ever did see it.

Two wolves find a sheep herd of over two thousand sheep, and because they're in a pen, the wolves can get in, but the sheep can't get out and the two wolves have a grand night of chasing sheep.

So much so that the stupid things piled up on top of each other in a panic to get away and killed themselves in their stupidity, while the wolves kill about ten of them in their chasing.

Then cap the night off by eating a sheep and then disappearing into the night.

And through it all, the vigilant shepherds didn't take notice until about 1am and didn't get out there in time to stop the wolves' games and late night dinner.

And of course, it's not the shepherds' faults for being stupid and not watching over their sheep close enough when they're trapped in a pen that they can't escape...

It's the wolves' fault for being wolves and liking the taste of sheep and like chasing sheep.

In the wild, these two wolves would have undoubtedly found a herd of deer and probably managed to chase down the slowest of them and had a nice dinner. Nature at work. But, in this case, they found a bunch of trapped sheep and some stupid shepherds who are bad at their job.

You my friend are ignorant. In the summer you free range sheep in the mountains like cattle over thousands of acres with perhaps two or four guys working during the day to keep them together and tend them. Pretty hard to keep up with running critters in the dark.

Sheep farmer Barney says: "Damn that Obama and his saving the galdern wolves!!!. Ima gonna go and kill me some sheep with the tail pipe of me truck and pile em up and say it was dem dern wolves. Then we gets ta kill as many as we want!!"

/OK, it was me. I snorted all their air out of their lungs and they died. Sorry about that.//Usually I just snort their woolly bodies and get me high from all that marijuana they keep wandering through out there is the big open areas.

doglover:69gnarkill69: This guy's herd is attacked by wolves and he's the asshole.

The guy's heard wasn't "attacked" by wolves. It was harried slightly.

The sheep killed themselves. The fact they were ABLE to bunch up tight enough to kill each other raises SERIOUS questions about herd density and geography. The fact the wolves weren't run off by shepherds or rams is the other ball dropping.

This guy isn't a rancher, he's a warehouse owner who thought sheep are just living shipping containers. fark him.

You haven't the slightest clue to what it means to be a rancher. Your ignorance is astounding.

HeadLever:LockeOak: Sounds like the rancher needs a better fence, or insurance, or sheep dogs, or rams.

Sheep dogs or rams doesn't work very well against a pack of wolves. Also, he may have insurance and these were likely out on open range.

IIRC Turkish kangals, Great Pyrenees, and Caucasian overtchkas (spelling wrong) have been bred for centuries to work in teams to prevent wolf predation....they are very large (100-180lbs)and very serious about their jobs. The Caucasian will actively try to kill wolves near its flock.Ranchers in the telluride area have been using kangals for awhile now and here predation has dropped significantly.

LordJiro:69gnarkill69: doglover: Explodo: And people wonder why ranchers attempted to prevent the wolves from being reintroduced. That's a significant financial hit.

Good. Hopefully the asshole who owned them goes out of business and has to take up another occupation where they're not responsible for others' lives.

This guy's herd is attacked by wolves and he's the asshole. City folk are so funny.

You plop your ranch in the middle of a predator's habitat, raise animals that have been bred over centuries to be dumb as fark, place them in convenient pens that the aforementioned predator can trap the dumbass animals inside...and you get pissed at wolves for doing what comes naturally?

I'm not pissed at the wolves, they are predators and they are good at it. Where in my post do you get the idea that I'm pissed at wolves? Project much?