At 11:29 PM 10/11/2003 +0200, you wrote:>So the only way to prevent this from happening, is to forbid them to do it,>even if some people may miss one good opportunity. There are sites for this,>even newsgroups, so it clearly doesn't have its place here. I'm sure David>also has a lot of other reasons for this, but I sincerely think that the ones>I exposed here are already good justifications by themselves

Willy, I agree with almost every word. I remember what happened to UseNet and some of the early mailing lists when they became over-run with commercial and self-serving messages (did someone say "kibo"?) and I don't envy David his job.

Bald prohibitions are easy and nasty. Prohibitions with a steer in the right direction are just as easy, and comes across as more of a service to everyone. How much better it would have been for David to have said something with a positive twist: "Don't do it here, do it at linux-jobs@vger.kernel.org" or some such. (Assuming such a list exists -- and if there isn't such a list is it time to start one?)

As for sites and newsgroups, though, I have to take exception to your observation. I have yet to find one that attracts both potential employers and potential employees and keeps its listings current. The closest I have found to an active job list for Linux is Craig's List; sites such as www.hotlinuxjobs.com are not very up-to-date in the offerings -- every time I had tried to follow up on a listing from October 2002 to April 2003 I was told "that job's already filled." The general-purpose jobs sites (Hot Jobs, Dice, America's Job Bank, and others) have some Linux jobs but usually as part of a package of jobs, not in isolation.

I'd appreciate specifics on good sites for Linux people, both from the perspective of an employer and a job seeker.

Satch

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