OK I have listened to all at least once except for the newbie. I'm going for Cruelty here cos my favourite COF song is on it (Cruelty Bought Thee Orchids). (Whole album not on YT so I watch the clips) : (I already like) Last one I owned was Thorn.

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Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:06 am

Chinese Whispers

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Re: Best COF album?

It's a toss up between 'Dusk...' and 'Cruelty...'. Probably the former as I'm far more familiar with it. The last two have been solid, and whilst they are a great return-to-form, they are nowhere near as seminal (or 'controversial') as their earlier works.

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Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:57 am

Stat_Rad

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Re: Best COF album?

Tough call. I used to think Cruelty was their best. It was their tightest musically up until that point and has some of their best and most well written songs, but the production does suck a bit of the life out of it.

Dusk, on the other hand, has an incredible atmosphere, so I'm giving it the slight edge, even though it's sloppier musically, but there isn't much between them.

Midian was a very good album, but it seemed like the work of mortals to me in 2000. Less special than their previous work, more formulaic and calculated. It was the moment they began streamlining their sound for wider acclaim, but it was less blatantly commercial than their Roadrunner period.

As Chinese said, their last two albums are really quite good, and maybe one of them could arguably round out their top 5, but they aren't touching Vempire, Dusk or Cruelty. Principle has a special atmosphere to it and carries much nostalgic appeal, but it's sounding a little rough nowadays.

I basically like most COF albums to varying degrees. Their Peaceville era from 2010-2013 was pretty uneventful though, and I rarely return to those albums. I'd much rather listen to Thornography.

In the end, I think the revolving door lineup finally caught up with them. Dani got away with reshuffling the deck for a while, but it was unsustainable, and it definitely hurt them in the long run.

Edit: corrected spelling errors.

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Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:00 pm

Termoid

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Re: Best COF album?

Only Midian is real. The album perfectly encapsulates everything the band are about.

I don't see COF as a black metal act, I feel they have more in common with a Moonspell or a Tiamat than Bahory or Darkthrone.

Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:23 am

Termoid

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Re: Best COF album?

Capt. Howdy wrote:

I don't see COF as a black metal act, I feel they have more in common with a Moonspell or a Tiamat than Bahory or Darkthrone.

COF veered away from the etched in stone black metal blueprint along with Dimmu, Enslaved and others. Some called it musical evolution whilst others called it selling out. Depends which side of the fence you sit really.

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