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Not 100% sure why, but I really didn't like this episode. I thought the whole thing annoyed me more than it entertained me. The Rachel/Mom storyline was odd, and really didn't understand why they can't just have a normal relationship. I understand that they can't have a mother/daughter relationship. And I really didn't like the Poker Face song. Thought that they could have done a different song or version.

Finn and Kurt - Still completely dislike Kurt's character.
Always need a little bit of Sue in each episode, so maybe because she wasn't around at all, I didn't like the episode.

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Originally Posted by Killjoke

I still love the show. However, I'm still thinking that it's trying to be too much at one time. I normally would applaud the seriousness with which it treated the gay bashing/bullying aspect, but because the two football players have been played for laughs in the past, to suddenly make them truly menacing felt out of place, and I honestly just felt uncomfortable watching it.

I completely agree. The slushies, and even the dumpstering, are so stylized that they hardly seem like violence at all. This felt real, and it seemed particularly ugly in comparison to how surreal the rest of the episode was.

Originally Posted by Killjoke

I'm not against Kurt's expression of himself, but they keep taking his creepiness to a whole new level. As others have pointed out on here, they are showing growth in a lot of the characters, but Kurt doesn't feel like he's growing at all, which doesn't ring true for someone who is so self aware.

I think that Kurt being foiled in the last few episodes is leading to growth, specifically out-growing his crush on Finn. I want their friendship to continue, but Kurt is not going to be able to move on until he understands that he'll never be with Finn. And I think he finally got that last night.

Originally Posted by Killjoke

And I'm falling in love with Quinn more and more each episode. Maybe Glee is making me straight.

I don't know about straight, but I agree that Quinn has become awesome in the 'back 9' episodes. I have NO interest in women sexually, and for me to notice how radiantly beautiful she is, even with gigantic fake eyelashes, is saying something.

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I agree the whole Tina is a gothic vampire was beyond stupid. I guess it was their pathetic way to give one of the minority characters a storyline. It was also thier even more pathetic way to make a Gaga episode. That's the problem. They pick songs and then piece together story bits around it.

Puck is serenading Quinn now. But didnt he just like Mercedes and needed to fight off Santana?

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Kurt has been very proud and confident from the beginning - and there’s nothing wrong with that! I think the problem is though that he’s sometimes so busy with himself that he doesn’t realize how much his behavior affects others. Kurt’s not very sensitive or empathetic but somehow self-centered.

When Finn was being told that he had to move in with him, Kurt immediately was talking about redecorating the room, totally oblivious of how Finn was feeling at that moment (What 16 year old boy wants to share a room with his step-brother that is crazy in love with him? Finn’s mom is mainly to blame for this, she should’ve known better).

Later when Kurt had turned the room into this hideous chamber with museum-like furniture, he again had done what HE wanted to do without consulting anyone. What he had created was the result of who HE was, completely ignoring Finn’s needs, feelings or interests. Redecorating the room could have been an opportunity for both guys to grow together but Kurt turned it into an act of self-expression. Finn snapped, which he shouldn’t have, but honestly I understand why the situation escalated.

This week’s episode was a big fail. I don’t know what exactly has changed since Glee returned from the break but this is not the show I fell in love with last year. Last week’s episode has been the only good one so far :-/

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Originally Posted by aijalon18

Kurt is just terrible. There's nothing wrong with him being flamboyant and feminine but how aggressively he tried to push himself on Finn was so annoying. And while Mike O'Malley's scene was great it was kinda unwarranted. The scene would have made more sense for him to say that the football players. It was so out of character for Finn to even say "faggy".

I think the show handles this issue really badly. The football players made sense. Why does it matter to them what Kurt wears? But Finn was justified in being angry at Kurt. Kurt was being completely inappropriate and predatory to Finn. and perpetuates that PC bullshit where anytime you are mean to a gay guy you are being homophobic. It's not the gay guy is being a crazy asshole. The oversensitivity I think is counterproductive.

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Originally Posted by pmgunnerxx

@Callum I could see him either experimenting with kurt (very unlikely but i guess it could happen) or I could see kurt thinking he had the green light to try something and getting shut down... either way I think they may come back to the bi thing

I hope they don't...but the whole "I am different" line adds to my fears.

But maybe a sexually insecure teen is needed (God knows we weren't all like Kurt).

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I see where you are all coming from. I end up like bits and pieces of each episode. I think that the story arc of Rachel finding her mom was over quite quickly but then there are story arcs that are there for a longer.
As for making Finn bisexual, i don't think so. I was reading something somewhere, probably Ask Auseillo, i think that he posted something about them bring in a gay character for Kurt next season. So there is hope.

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I liked the episode, it was entertaining, I loved Brittany's one liners. I hated all the Kurt/Finn stuff. Kurt's characters annoys me sometimes, I hate how he pursues an obviously straight guy, I have known other gay men who do that and it is so stupid, all they are doing is setting themselves up for disappointment. I loved Bad Romance, it was fun.

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Lets not all act like we wern't like Kurt at sometime. We all know what its like to want a straight guy so much that you will try and convince them, they are gay, or do everything in your power to be with them. I sure know what its like.

Although I didn't go as far as Kurt lol

I think they handle the gay issue very well (so far) I can only comment up to the episode that was on here as im not sure what episode is on in the US. The last one we saw was where that guy plants the tape in rachels box and she sings i dreamed a dream with her mum, well kinda lol

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^I'm sorry but they handle the gayness so sloppily and offensively. Yes, people have crushes but not to the point of serenading him in front of everyone. And constantly making him a guy feel awkward and uncomfortable like Kurt.

I dont know what the gay creator is thinking. He has basically made Kurt everything that homophobes and ignorants think: Constantly trying to make everyone gay and then hiding behind minority protections even when they are wrong.

Then Rachel's dads. When they were shown seemed kind of interesting. Now they are only mentioned as a plot device that kinda works against gay adoption. Rachel needs a mom to sew her dress b/c she has 2 gay dads who stapled stuffed animals. If theyre already stereotyping shouldnt gay dads be better at sewing than this woman.

I just dont get why a gay show writer/creator would make such horrible stereotypical storylines that actually work against gay people and show the deficiency in same-sex parenting.

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Originally Posted by xXSeanXx

Lets not all act like we wern't like Kurt at sometime. We all know what its like to want a straight guy so much that you will try and convince them, they are gay, or do everything in your power to be with them. I sure know what its like.l

I've never done that. I had various crushes on straight guys in high school and college but never made it known.

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One question about Kurt's house. To me, it looks like Kurt's room is the basement converted to a bedroom. But we were also told that the house has 2 1/2 bathrooms. So presumably it has more than one bedroom. So why is Kurt down in the basement?

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I feel like I'll be hung for saying this but I thought Bad Romance was done well I felt for a change they were actually singing instead of that thing Rachel does by over acting while Lip Synching. I though the guys as KIss were class but seriously guys was there ever a time were you didn't do something with the group of girls? It is pissing me off no end seeing Kurt always with the girls I would like to see him do things with the guys as in songs pervs lol.

OK I know what type of character Kurt is but I remeber school and I'll tell you this to be put with the girls was an insult I mixed with guys and girls, hell the show is about acceptance let's see Kurt do something with the guys. Its my life doesn't count as he went behind their backs to the girls.

"Flipping Dykes I though they were a myth like Weapons of Mass Destruction" Grace Adler.

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I think i'm done with this show....I can't handle the cheesiness anymore...and the non-storytelling....

this episode had horrible songs...a lame episode "theme" and there weren't even any funny one liners or anything.

also...did we know Quinn was living with Puck? Cause I feel like we didn't know that....also...how can they always find all these back up dancers/singers for their solo performances when everyone is always making fun of them and would never join Glee club.....

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Originally Posted by aijalon18

^I'm sorry but they handle the gayness so sloppily and offensively. Yes, people have crushes but not to the point of serenading him in front of everyone. And constantly making him a guy feel awkward and uncomfortable like Kurt.

I dont know what the gay creator is thinking. He has basically made Kurt everything that homophobes and ignorants think: Constantly trying to make everyone gay and then hiding behind minority protections even when they are wrong.

Then Rachel's dads. When they were shown seemed kind of interesting. Now they are only mentioned as a plot device that kinda works against gay adoption. Rachel needs a mom to sew her dress b/c she has 2 gay dads who stapled stuffed animals. If theyre already stereotyping shouldnt gay dads be better at sewing than this woman.

I just dont get why a gay show writer/creator would make such horrible stereotypical storylines that actually work against gay people and show the deficiency in same-sex parenting.

Oh yeah. The Kurt/Finn storyline I've actually at times skipped past it. It's so uncomfortable to watch. Though it's made me appreciate straight people more and recognize that for the ones who are gay-friendly, it can be difficult.

They could take Kurt's story and make something really great out of it, Colfer certainly has the acting chops to pull it off, but they instead choose to turn him into a caricature. When he's not throwing himself at Finn, or trying to emotionally blackmail his father, or being downright rude to other glee club members, then he's actually a great character.

Originally Posted by Irish Queer

OK I know what type of character Kurt is but I remeber school and I'll tell you this to be put with the girls was an insult I mixed with guys and girls, hell the show is about acceptance let's see Kurt do something with the guys. Its my life doesn't count as he went behind their backs to the girls.

It also doesn't count because he automatically moved over to the girls but Will made him join the boys.

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I guess I'm in the minority because I actually really enjoy the Kurt/Finn storyline. And I have no problem with the show's handling of the gays (well...I am a little annoyed that the gay dads couldn't sew). I think Kurt's character has used effectively to show comedic relief and show how tough it is to be a gay youth.

What I think most of you are forgetting is Kurt is a high school student. Who doesn't remember falling in love with the straight guy you can never have? Who didn't fantasize about turning him? Has the character done some incredibly dramatic and unrealistic things to try and get the guy? Yes. But this is a tv show based on kids bursting into song. The characters and situations will be greatly exaggerated.

Also, I'm a little upset with everyone's notion that Kurt needs to be 'butched up'. I don't see what's wrong with his flamboyant character. How the hell else will they be able to get his character across without all the flamobyance?

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Just watched the Bad Romance clip again did Santana lip synch Gaga before burting into her own voice its just when she starts her voice seems waaay different and her synching is way off, just wondering.

Also madonna and GaGa come on Ryan I actually cheered when Puck did Sammy D and the Boys finally did KISS, seriously I'm waiting on the Kylie ep then I'm turning if off. Stop using fame hungery fake users like GaGa and Madonna get proper Artists to base an episode on!

"Flipping Dykes I though they were a myth like Weapons of Mass Destruction" Grace Adler.

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For me it's not about butching him up or displaying his flamboyance or anything like that. I just hate how acidic he can be sometimes and I get generally uncomfortable knowing Finn's never gonna take the bait yet Kurt continually goes there.

Since the show returned I've been getting more and more pissed at both him and Mercedes. They come across as so self serving (self involved high school students? never ). I would love for Kurt to realize Finn is never going to turn gay and for the two of them to develop an actual brotherly relationship.

I don't know though. Maybe it is just about Finn. If Kurt were to throw himself at Puck I wouldn't mind at all and I'd find it really entertaining. As far as Puck goes, when he isn't being a dick, he's really sweet and adorable.

And I've read some quotes about Kurt's future in Season 2 and I'm really happy about it.

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Originally Posted by matt1980111

I guess I'm in the minority because I actually really enjoy the Kurt/Finn storyline. And I have no problem with the show's handling of the gays (well...I am a little annoyed that the gay dads couldn't sew). I think Kurt's character has used effectively to show comedic relief and show how tough it is to be a gay youth.

What I think most of you are forgetting is Kurt is a high school student. Who doesn't remember falling in love with the straight guy you can never have? Who didn't fantasize about turning him? Has the character done some incredibly dramatic and unrealistic things to try and get the guy? Yes. But this is a tv show based on kids bursting into song. The characters and situations will be greatly exaggerated.

Also, I'm a little upset with everyone's notion that Kurt needs to be 'butched up'. I don't see what's wrong with his flamboyant character. How the hell else will they be able to get his character across without all the flamobyance?

I have to agree with you. I love the Kurt/Finn storyline... I had the straight guy crush in high school so its fun to watch it happen. I may not agree with ALL of the flambouyance but they get the main points of a gay youth around. I especially like how Kurt came out to Mercedes. I did LOVE how Kurt got up to go with Finn, Puck and the guys after Rachel got egged. It showed a little bit more manliness than usual. I also agree with that the gay dads not knowing how to sew saddened me.

I agree with some of the other posts about how they have gotten out of the story line with the themes. I also agree about the back up dancers, where do they come from? I am also trying to figure out how Quinn is having her baby already... if its been 9 months the school year should be over.

The Lady GaGa episode was a really good one, they did Bad Romance very well. Idina also did Poker Face very well

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Originally Posted by hurriwelli

For me it's not about butching him up or displaying his flamboyance or anything like that. I just hate how acidic he can be sometimes and I get generally uncomfortable knowing Finn's never gonna take the bait yet Kurt continually goes there.

Since the show returned I've been getting more and more pissed at both him and Mercedes. They come across as so self serving (self involved high school students? never ). I would love for Kurt to realize Finn is never going to turn gay and for the two of them to develop an actual brotherly relationship.

I don't know though. Maybe it is just about Finn. If Kurt were to throw himself at Puck I wouldn't mind at all and I'd find it really entertaining. As far as Puck goes, when he isn't being a dick, he's really sweet and adorable.

And I've read some quotes about Kurt's future in Season 2 and I'm really happy about it.

I think that's the reason I don't mind the storyline. Like the person below said, I remember being totally, head over heels in love with this straight guy in high school. Lord, I wanted him so bad. And I did a lot of stupid things trying to get him. So I identify with Kurt and I think it shows what a lot of us go through in high school; it's tough falling for someone that will never want you.

Originally Posted by ucfknight12

I have to agree with you. I love the Kurt/Finn storyline... I had the straight guy crush in high school so its fun to watch it happen. I may not agree with ALL of the flambouyance but they get the main points of a gay youth around. I especially like how Kurt came out to Mercedes. I did LOVE how Kurt got up to go with Finn, Puck and the guys after Rachel got egged. It showed a little bit more manliness than usual. I also agree with that the gay dads not knowing how to sew saddened me.

I agree with some of the other posts about how they have gotten out of the story line with the themes. I also agree about the back up dancers, where do they come from? I am also trying to figure out how Quinn is having her baby already... if its been 9 months the school year should be over.

The Lady GaGa episode was a really good one, they did Bad Romance very well. Idina also did Poker Face very well

Yeah, I'm never disappointed with the show's choice of songs. I don't like some of the rock stuff they did (Loser, Beth etc) but I think they did them very well.

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^ There are some songs I don't agree with either and some songs I love a lot more than others like "Total Eclipse of the Heart," "Dream On," and "Don't Stop Believing." Also concerning hulli's quote, I would really love if Finn and Kurt have a brotherly relationship, I think it would be a good showing of how a gay man overcomes discrimination... I hope they sing another duet together, but this time actually sing it WITH each other All they need to do is give Kurt a boyfriend and then I think those two will have a great relationship together

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Originally Posted by Gomaki

really? i feel they didn't even start showing a baby bump until this weeks episode...

yup it was in Michael Ausielo's May Sweeps Scorecard...June 8th is when he said she would be giving birth...and yeah...I was wondering when he said that too cause she was like stick skinny two episodes ago...and just got a bump this week pretty much...but whatever...not really going to look to Glee for continuity or realism

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I think i'm done with this show....I can't handle the cheesiness anymore...and the non-storytelling....

this episode had horrible songs...a lame episode "theme" and there weren't even any funny one liners or anything.

also...did we know Quinn was living with Puck? Cause I feel like we didn't know that....also...how can they always find all these back up dancers/singers for their solo performances when everyone is always making fun of them and would never join Glee club.....

really? i thought the episode was awesome, and all the numbers were performed well.

if you take the show for what it is, a fun guilty pleasure, you'll find it is pretty damn good.

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This is kind of random...

But I was watching the "Bad Romance" performance again, and noticed Brittany (Heather Morris) crouching down after Santana's solo is almost done and banging on her knee with one foot coming off the ground to the beat.

While I know she is a professional dancer and did Single Ladies w/ Beyonce at the AMA's, that shit is hard to do

It's at 1:48 if you care to watch (and it's weird how it's in "reverse" but oh well.)

And I found a picture where she looks really pretty

I just think some of her lines in the show are absolutely hysterical

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I'm beautiful in my way - cause god makes no mistakes - I'm on the right track - baby I was born this way!

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I know this is farfetched, but I would love for one of the jocks (don't remember his name) who picks on everyone to come out of the closet and become a power couple w/ Kurt. I can just imagine a guy being that closeted that he feels he has to act that macho all the time.

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Originally Posted by icefan

I know this is farfetched, but I would love for one of the jocks (don't remember his name) who picks on everyone to come out of the closet and become a power couple w/ Kurt. I can just imagine a guy being that closeted that he feels he has to act that macho all the time.

What is farfetched about that? A lot of the time those who are homophiobic turn out to be gay or those who pick on others have a hard time themselves.

"Flipping Dykes I though they were a myth like Weapons of Mass Destruction" Grace Adler.

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Do people think your character's name is ''Other Asian''?
It's a funny joke. People really clung to that, but more and more it's a balance. Half know me as that, half know me as Mike Chang.

Have you had a favorite performance?
The one that really stands out is the mattress number [set to Van Halen's ''Jump'']. It was just a day of being a kid. We literally just got to jump on our backs and flip, and if we fell, it was okay because it was part of the number.

(Neither of these clips that great in terms of quality, but enough to the idea.)

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I was just re-watching last week's episode last night and was thinking of posting about Harry on here since no one else seems to mention him. Glad to see someone beat me too it. He is very cute, and he's got great moves. He also adds terrific energy to virtually every scene he is in.

Harry's been around for some time, too. He was one of the original silhouettes in the Apple ipod commercials.

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OK loved Funk because Sue was in it lol. I was cheering by the end I h8 Jessie seriously can I ask is the actor gay in real life?? I'm wondering because I'm starting to agree with that guy who said gay guys cannot play straight. Yes Niles from Fraiser, Sue, Barney from how I met your mother etc I know but certain guys just cannot seem to do it. BTW if Jessie is straight in real life he cannot act lol.

"Flipping Dykes I though they were a myth like Weapons of Mass Destruction" Grace Adler.

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^I know we all have our opinions but that is the most ridiculous thing I think anyone can possibly say.

Yes, the actor is gay. But I don't think his sexuality has anything to do with his character.

OK I Know it does sound rally bad but seriously Jessie comes across as Gay he doesn't come across straight. Let me just say there are Gay actors who act well and you believe whatever character they are playing may it be man, woman, ailean lol, it may be that this guy cannot act because to me when he is with Rachel he doesn't come across as a tennage boy who despite what he has done is in love with Rachel. Its hard for me to put into words and I really don't want to offend maybe its down to bad acting.

"Flipping Dykes I though they were a myth like Weapons of Mass Destruction" Grace Adler.

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Originally Posted by Irish Queer

OK I Know it does sound rally bad but seriously Jessie comes across as Gay he doesn't come across straight. Let me just say there are Gay actors who act well and you believe whatever character they are playing may it be man, woman, ailean lol, it may be that this guy cannot act because to me when he is with Rachel he doesn't come across as a tennage boy who despite what he has done is in love with Rachel. Its hard for me to put into words and I really don't want to offend maybe its down to bad acting.

I agree with you, when he looks at Rachel he just looks like its awkward to him... maybe he should come out and be Kurt's boyfriend HAHAHAHA j/k I hope they give Kurt a bf kind of like Finn, just not Finn