I've been watching this all day, and yet no one is focusing on China threatening to nuke N. Korea, Korea threatening to Nuke our carriers, and Putin /
Syria threatening to fire upon us. This is a distraction.

originally posted by: UnifiedSerenity
I've been watching this all day, and yet no one is focusing on China threatening to nuke N. Korea, Korea threatening to Nuke our carriers, and Putin /
Syria threatening to fire upon us. This is a distraction.

There are a lot of stars and planets lining up over the Korean Peninsula. I was going to write a thread about it, but I took a nap instead. Maybe
tomorrow.

What about the good Samaritan ideology, I see that was only shown a little bit through this whole thing.
We are so conditioned to just shut up and say and do nothing when we see our fellow man oppressed.
We need to stick up for one another, we could literally be next, but are too scared, those passengers should have risen up in protest, when this went
down. Some did I see, but most sat silently, at least some filmed it to get it out.

Wrong is wrong, this is a valuable lesson in group psychology, it also shows just how easy it for those with power over us to seize power over our
personal sovereignty.

This whole thing shows something else, only maybe 5% say something, if those voices are then eliminated as a warning, who is left to say and do
anything....and that is how the Nazi's took over Germany.

a reply to: yuppa
if he got back on plane why was he listedas recovering in a chicago hospital after his ordeal according to usatoday www.usatoday.com... and the crew was going to
time out on a flight scheduled the next day dude its a 4 hour drive . weren't there any cargo jets going that way.

originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
This is the problem with that kind of cold reasoning and analysis of the nature of human self interest.

I have a strong feeling that in response to my reply you are going to employ emotional reasoning and an appeal to moral absolutes in an effort to
demonstrate how cold I really am.

In a time of crisis, Civility breaks down.

Please tell me you are not suggesting that people being stuck on a plain that is yet to have taken off, which has no impending danger for anyone on
board, or where an airline acts in accordance with the law of the country they are in and the policies of their own company is somehow representative
of a crisis? O.o

This is why an enlightened mutual best interest, altruism and even love for one's fellow man is superior to a purely "rational self interest",
because amid competing self-interest, once again, chaos.

You make out as if it were a simple case of one side being oppressed by the one other side. Who are the villains in this story, exactly? The airline,
the police, the other passengers aside from the victim? Who are the heroes? The doctor who got kicked off? The police for neutralising a threat? The
other passengers for not stopping the police from doing the job they were obligated to perform?

This is one of many reasons that I firmly believe in and subscribe to the Christian ethic and ideal and by that I'm not referring to Christians
in general or Churchianity, but to the unassailable reason and logic of the basis of that kind of love, which ironically, the cold-hearted
rationalists cannot understand for the life of them and it remains in their blind spot.

The "unassailable reason and logic of the basis of that kind of love"? How can unconditional love be the basis of reason and logic? Are you suggesting
that a mother who refuses to identify the location of her serial killer son, despite knowing where he is, knowing that he is going to murder more
people and knowing that he will never utter another word to her in his life, is not wrong for not telling the police where he is? That kind of seems
what you are arguing...

I'm obviously referring to a larger context that this isolated incident.

For those of us not intelligent enough to comprehend your metaphor (?), please do explain it a little more clearly.

originally posted by: UnifiedSerenity
I've been watching this all day, and yet no one is focusing on China threatening to nuke N. Korea, Korea threatening to Nuke our carriers, and Putin /
Syria threatening to fire upon us. This is a distraction.

Poop guy, so sad. Like another poster suggested they should of upped the compensation for giving up seat, to make it worth getting on another
flight.

This is exactly why I will never fly UA, besides the fact their airline has always been second rate IMO. Even if I would fly through them, I would now
have to worry there could be a chance they would call in the police to drag me off the plane if I didn't want to give up my seat I paid for.

I really hope this guys sues the airline for personal distress , I'm sure UA could of offered him something more then $800.

and.......she totally ignores that fact that it went that far in the first place...doesn't even mention the callus CEO basically blaming the
passenger......it WAS not an overbooking but it was originally handled as such

I get that the 4 employees needed to get to kentucky, and I feel bad how they were treated, but their employer caused this to happen in the
first place by handling this situation in such a poor manner ,they didn't drag the guy off the plane knocking him out in the process and bleeding.,
but they got some of the flak for it...they are lucky no one else got hurt.

I had already posted asking wasn't there a charter flight ,a personal plane , a flight on another airline...would be nice to know....

yes there are 2 sides to every story...but...the situation never should have escalated that far and the CEO released that bullcrap first
message..he had NO empathy and basically blamed the passenger.........so wrong.

he's in a chicago hospital..
or at least was when this story was written.. www.wlky.com...
it's dated today.

The man was trying to get back home apparently though. and i heard clarification and yeah apparently he snuck back on but he was wrongfully removed in
the first place,and I think he was in shock more like it instead. UA doesnt have its policy posted for people to read apparently.
I got my info from a twitter post about the man by a passenger on the plane about his state.

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