Well, the longer it takes for nVidia to release Kepler, the more people will buy a 7000-series AMD video card and the more time AMD has to work on their next GPU line up. nVidia might be taking a long time, but unless they can make their CUDA cores less bulky (they're big in comparison to AMD's shaders,) they're going to keep running into the same problems Fermi ran into.

Remember all the hype for Bulldozer? Hello, Kepler.

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Don't compare that POS faildozer to Kepler. If Kepler is even half of what it's claimed, it'll be a good improvement over Fermi. Most probably it'll slaughter AMD once again, but I guess that's just too sensitive for the red fan boys, so they won't accept this.

...but until it does, it's just nVidia making claims without a product.

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Oh, I agree. Nvidia has pulled so many dishonest stunts in the years gone by that I am not surprised they keep talking bologna now. My concern is they are about to release something worse than a Fermi..... something along the lines of the 2900xt. By that I mean something that DOES perform, but at a price and power premium. This new 7770 competitor gives me some concern on that level as well. Equal price and performance and way more power consumption.

I lean more in the direction of an AMD fan, but Nvidia does need to compete to keep pricing ~reasonable.

Icedog, considering how late it is it NEEDS to be 30% over 7xxx's to be considered a slaughter, because 8xxx's won't be far off. I don't doubt AMD would release 8xxx's a little early if Kepler is not far beyond the 7's.

That is EXACTLY what I was thinking as I read this! Bulldozer talked a lot of smack before it launched, and underperformed terribly. I sense the same for Kepler, but with a higher price tag because fanboys will pay for anything with a green logo.

Kepler will not be taken as a flop like BD generally is. BD couldnt find its way out of a wet paperbag in performance and power consumption. Most dont care about power consumption (I mean who the hell buys a $500 card and complains about the meager difference in their electric bill? Seriously).

My take is: Kepler will easily beat 7970, and will take up more power, and will likely be priced higher as well. So what. You get what you pay for, the best single GPU out.

I kinda remember another hype that was going about the 6000 series and how they gonna smoke the hot and power hungry Fermi. Fanboys will always create hype. This time NV is extremely quiet everything you see and hear comes from speculations and fanboys. But rather sooner than later we'll know what's going on.

I want so bad a Sapphire 7950 OC so all I can say is ''Welcome Mr Kepler''...

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Then you best hope that it's not a repeat of the 5800 series situation that iirc went up a bit in price once Fermi finally dropped. Not that I'm saying I expect it to be... GTX 480 was hot, power hungry and underwhelming comparatively at the time, especially being 6 months "late". Note I am not knocking that card generally as I literally just bought one new for $200.

All this talk about Kepler is only targeted to try and slow down AMDs graphics cards sales which are outselling anything in the market.

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Which is hilarious since the driver support for the 7xxx series is nothing short of terrible. I am willing to wait for an Nvidia solution since I have had it with AMD Drivers BSoDing during installation and failing to properly install unless I take precautions that make it take upwards of an hour to do a driver upgrade. Fermi was rushed, and was using a different design (Kepler is like an evolved Fermi) so most of the problems that presented themselves with Fermi, won't be as big, or even an issue with Kepler. If all goes according to plan at least.

Of course it will be unbeatable. It isn't hard to get out a product that is better than your competition when you wait for your competition to release theirs so you have a line in the sand set for you to cross...

Of course it will be unbeatable. It isn't hard to get out a product that is better than your competition when you wait for your competition to release theirs so you have a line in the sand set for you to cross...

Who is that idiot that translated the message?
Aspettando Kepler... pazienza, pazienza, pazienza che il momento giusto arriverà, e allora... non ce ne sarà più per nessuno!
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Waiting for Kepler ... patience, patience, patience, the right time will come, and then... there will be none!

Meaning they all will be sold! Is like publicity, nothing to do with kepler itself.
Open google translate see for yourself!

nVidia has not released Kepler, therefore it wins over nothing. That is all I am saying. For all of you who are saying "LOL KEPLERS SO FAST," is just talking out of their rear-end because there are no engineering samples or real sourced benchmarks to confirm any of these claims. The 7970 is here and it performs well. That is what matters right now, because until Kepler is actually release, no one will benefit from it, including nVidia.

So the next time any of you want to go bashing AMD, just remember at least their chip is already in production and in rigs as we speak.

Let's stop with the speculation and stick with the cold, hard, facts if you're going to go on a flaming rampage.