tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5040881863817723172.post5438677566197157662..comments2016-01-18T03:40:41.507-08:00Comments on Confessions of a Koifer: PTSD? Hah! Been There, Done That. Thanks Yeshivah.Rachmuna Litzlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02557335334618038043noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5040881863817723172.post-13486450620858437812014-12-15T10:37:07.486-08:002014-12-15T10:37:07.486-08:00I would like any or all of you to contact me. I&#3...I would like any or all of you to contact me. I&#39;ve been dealing with a member of the Blum family for years. This man has managed to wreck my life across country while he happily sits at his home.<br /><br />Blumvictim@yahoo.com<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5040881863817723172.post-19461534796259240132013-03-11T09:32:43.622-07:002013-03-11T09:32:43.622-07:00I was recently at a business show in NJ. When I ca...I was recently at a business show in NJ. When I came out of the meeting I saw Shimon Goldbrenner dealing with a girl that apparently was a prostitute. My guess that the negotiations were about his performance since he has this bad limp..<br />Took me a bit to recollect who this overweight piece of drek is. Haven&#39;t seen him since my yeshiva days at DT. Seems he added on more then a few pounds since. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5040881863817723172.post-60969073269899057252012-12-27T21:29:47.723-08:002012-12-27T21:29:47.723-08:00You guys need to get together and file a police re...You guys need to get together and file a police reoprt. These people belong in jail, not in other Yeshivos. Has too much time past that it&#39;s past the statute of limitations?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5040881863817723172.post-23988376049907282452012-01-30T17:49:07.099-08:002012-01-30T17:49:07.099-08:00if only i could cry. this would make my cry...if only i could cry. this would make my cry...Robynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11488527769435341182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5040881863817723172.post-42025978760385150612012-01-20T18:40:57.599-08:002012-01-20T18:40:57.599-08:00I have witnessed these &quot;sanctified&quot; beat...I have witnessed these &quot;sanctified&quot; beatings in the frum community. It&#39;s unfortunate but the beatings at that young age most probably rewired your brain for fear and hypervigilance. It would no doubt take behavioral therapy to be normal again. I hope they get outed to the media. Bastids.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5040881863817723172.post-69809978481209755002011-09-22T12:22:40.054-07:002011-09-22T12:22:40.054-07:00This is just sick. Are these guys still alive? Are...This is just sick. Are these guys still alive? Are there still yeshivos like this? Congrats on making your voices heard. hopefully some parents who say the rebbe can do no wrong will pay attention to this and spare their children from these places.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5040881863817723172.post-88892983241385481542011-07-12T00:51:46.678-07:002011-07-12T00:51:46.678-07:00the yishvas name is nar hator the rabbis over ther...the yishvas name is nar hator the rabbis over there are going to hellmonsey suckshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12327785459081326520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5040881863817723172.post-75694355312342579132010-03-02T19:02:06.853-08:002010-03-02T19:02:06.853-08:00What&#39;s the name of this crazy yeshiva?What&#39;s the name of this crazy yeshiva?kishkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12142960593402225524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5040881863817723172.post-41445483335552241142010-02-22T13:09:21.514-08:002010-02-22T13:09:21.514-08:00Just last night I spoke to a guy, he had told me t...Just last night I spoke to a guy, he had told me that he used to get beatings from Moishe Lazer Blum if he was maaver sedra with the wrong tuneElihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11323472432840517801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5040881863817723172.post-12075563941591313912010-02-22T00:29:21.541-08:002010-02-22T00:29:21.541-08:00Here&#39;s another 1, I dunno how many of u reader...Here&#39;s another 1, I dunno how many of u readers know the difference between a 6 slice yamukah (kippa) and a 4 slice, but that mr Blum sure does know the difference. One fine afternoon it all seemed to be going well, I went into town and bought a new yamukah, I went from a 6 slice to a 4 slice (the difference is also, (he 6 slice was soft &amp; the 4 was more stiff) I threw out the 6 slice and I rolled into yeshiva with my new 4 slice yamukah, I didn&#39;t pay much attention to my new yamukah, just that it was more comfortable on my head, all of a sudden mr blum comes up to me and tells me to get ridd of the 4 slice yamukah and wear the 6 slice, I explained to him that I like this 1 and also I threw away the other 1, then Blum took off my yamukah off my head and left me with nothing on my head, so I was like if the so called rabbi can remove my kippa then if I&#39;m doing a sin, its on his responsibilty, then the guy started punding my head with his fingers and he kept on saying &quot;put on a yamukah put on a yamukah&quot; and I was like so give me back mine, he refused. Then while his hand is knocking on my head, I put my head down on the table (like taking a nap) and the pounding got stronger and harder, then he asked 1 of the boys for a blade, he cut my yamukah in to 4 pieces (nazi style) and there my yamukah was a cut up and I&#39;m not wearing any, that pissed him off even more cuz I kept on asking and I was upset that my yamukah was cut, so the punding continued untill it got real ugly, he threw me on the floor and started kicking my head (it looked like he was playing socker and my head was the ball) I can tell ya 1 thing, I was beaten..... I don&#39;t remember the end of the story , I just know that I&#39;m still alive to tell the story and now days I proudly wear onlý 4 slice yamukahs, it did leave a trauma cuz I wouldn&#39;t change that style for anything, it goes so far that my X wifes daughter once came home and said that her friends were making fun of her that he dad is wearing a 4 slice yamukah and my X gave me that look like she would appreciate if I would change it, &amp; I explained to her that I suffered so much for that yamukah and nearly lost my life over it and I hope she understands, she did understand. And that&#39;s where this story ends. More to come hopefully. May then never have a peacful day.Elihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11323472432840517801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5040881863817723172.post-50234004168064086002010-02-21T23:58:53.205-08:002010-02-21T23:58:53.205-08:00Another story from them: 1 day the boys were assig...Another story from them: 1 day the boys were assigned chvruses (studying partners)goldbrener / blum paired me up with this kid, I didn&#39;t want to study with him so I asked blum or goldbrener (I don&#39;t remember which 1 I asked) that I would like to learn with some1 else, the response was NO u have to learn with him, then I argued back of course, and goldbrener took me into a nearby bedroom (that I do remember it was goldbrener himself) and slapped me once, then he asked me &quot;are u gonna partner up with that kid, yes or no&quot; so my answer was &quot;no&quot; so he slapped me again, this went on for a while (maybe 15-20 minutes) as he kept on asking yes or no and my answer constant &quot;no&quot; (didn&#39;t he ask me yes or no, and I answered his question) the beating got more hard and more violant, (the entire time I was thinking, if only blum would find out what goldbrener is doing to me, goldbrener will get in trouble by blum, but little did I know at those moments that Blum was In this beating together as well.. Read on...) so after about 15-20 minutes mr Blum came into the room and asked goldbrener if I already answered and goldbrener responded by &quot;no he didn&#39;t&quot; so then came the worse, 2 adults started beating on me (me being 13 yrs old, short &amp; about 125lbs to the most, goldbrener 30&#39;s and appox 250lbs and blum 170 high 20&#39;s , sure enough after additional 10 minutes of 2 men beating on me I of course answered yes and they stopped, later on goldbrener told me that I am a stobburn child &amp; he will knock it out of me, but little did he know that he ruined me for life and I&#39;m now more stobburn then ever. more stories to come. And if any1 has stories from this yeshiva pls postElihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11323472432840517801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5040881863817723172.post-10623418836227044222010-02-21T18:33:19.042-08:002010-02-21T18:33:19.042-08:00This weekend I saw an invitation for a tea party f...This weekend I saw an invitation for a tea party for a yeshiva in monsey, after reading it thru I noticed something that all of a sudden started heating my blood and felt my preasure rising, the trigger was a name on there &quot;Shimon Goldbrener&quot; after reading that I serioulsy started having flash back from back in the day when I went there, also at the same time my left side neck was killing me and hurting me and that got my blood pumping even more, I started remembering what had happened in that school, I don&#39;t think about it everyday or can even go by years that I don&#39;t think of it but at that momnet it hit, the story with the hurting shoulder/neck/back was as follows (when I do think about that man, I will never forget the details on the story and nor will the kids that watched it either) on may of 1994 there was a ceremony in brooklyn and I wanted to attend, so being that the scholl was in rockland county/monsey, I asked the administration (blum and goldbrener) if I can go tomorrow to brooklyn and they said yes, next morning came and I woke up a bit late, I rushed to mikvah and then rushed into shul, they were already in middle of davening (basically was late) so after davening 1 of those 2 came up to me and said to me that I cannot go to brooklyn cuz I arrived late to prayers, I tried arguing that we didn&#39;t make any kind of deal that he can stop me from going, still didn&#39;t help and he said no u can&#39;t go. Later after breakfast and just about walking into class, mr goldbrener told me that he would allow me to go but in 1 condition, he will give me 50 punches on my shoulder/back and after that I can go, mind u this guy was about 250lb and I was a little 13 year old maybe 125lbs tops. And me wanting to be a hero said no problem its a deal. Having all studnts sitting around 1 big table (a few tables put together, about 15-20 kids) he started punching 1 after another, I was sitting next to him on his right side &amp; my left shoulder was his punching bag, as he kept going 1 after the other, the students also counted with him, 21, 22, 23 and so on, when it came to 33 the students counted that # twice, I was like that&#39;s not fair but still my screams were disregarded, when it came to 49 this guy stopped and he said that I can not go Bcuz he didn&#39;t give me 50 FIFTY punches, weargued and argued, he even at 1 point threatned me that if I don&#39;t stop arguing he will beat me up, at the end the students stuck up for me and they said that when counting they counted one of the #s twice so that means that really it was 50 not 49, I was granted permission to go. In brooklyn ceremony there was so many people and there was lots of pushing going on, and when people were pushing on me it hurt so bad that my while trip wasn&#39;t almost worth it, but it was still worth it since I had gotten thru that. This is only 1 of the many many stories I myself had there, and g-d is my witness that I&#39;m not making this up, for now I gotta go but I sure wll come back and share with u guys some more stories, and if any1 reading this remembers this pls email me and or comment. <br />May these men (moishe lazer blum and shimon goldbrener) never rest in peaceElihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11323472432840517801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5040881863817723172.post-69133431216285063892010-02-21T17:50:12.995-08:002010-02-21T17:50:12.995-08:00Shaya getzil I would like to talk to ýou, I also w...Shaya getzil I would like to talk to ýou, I also went there in 1993/1994 , my email address is. Unit173@gmail.comElihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11323472432840517801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5040881863817723172.post-66923512032265828522009-05-23T21:07:40.168-07:002009-05-23T21:07:40.168-07:00No one who attended that Yeshivah, would disagree ...No one who attended that Yeshivah, would disagree with what I'm saying here.<br /><br />Eventually the word did get out, and the place has since closed, but many of the former Rebbaim, now teach in other Yeshivah's.Shaya Getzelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02557335334618038043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5040881863817723172.post-11739539178608210072009-05-23T20:58:33.878-07:002009-05-23T20:58:33.878-07:00Just wondering what other people who went to the Y...Just wondering what other people who went to the Yeshiva experienced. I can't understand how information about the beatings didn't get out. If it's still a problem, you need to think about whether you should identify the Yeshiva to the public. <br />Ichabod ChrainAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5040881863817723172.post-56145221535088292532009-05-17T15:09:00.000-07:002009-05-17T15:09:00.000-07:00Phil; I think you misinterpreted what I said,the e...Phil; I think you misinterpreted what I said,the experience in that Yeshivah, had nothing to do with me leaving Frumkeit. In fact I stayed for years afterwards, even got married to a Frum lady, and only later left for philosophical reasons.Shaya Getzelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02557335334618038043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5040881863817723172.post-76557736600789590932009-05-17T08:26:00.000-07:002009-05-17T08:26:00.000-07:00Parents need to listen to their kids when they beg...Parents need to listen to their kids when they begin to decide that yeshiva isn't for them. Had your parents listened, you very well might still be observant today. Attmepting to force you into their idea of what is good for you didn't lead them too far.<br /><br />I was sent away to yeshiva against my will at 16. I had already gone though a couple places with relaxed rules, and knew good and well that this new place wasn't for me, as it had strict rules and a madman for a rosh yeshiva. Regardless, I was sent there, ended up doing more learning than I ever did, but got booted out for girls, movies, etc. Only bright side to the story was that I met met my wife to be while there. We are now happily married for over 14 years.<br /><br />Though I kind of went off a bit, I remained religious and still am today. I wasn't going to allow anyone to deter me from my views one way or another. Just as they couln't push their ultra frummy views of what's right or wrong on me, I didn't let my contempt for the creeps push me away from the right path.<br /><br />Sorry to read that it didn't work out for you and that a few idiots managed to destroy your faith. There is always hope.Freshwater Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05214539605710658200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5040881863817723172.post-70574013644702175302009-04-12T11:48:00.000-07:002009-04-12T11:48:00.000-07:00Hey Shaya,I went through similar stuff up in Roche...Hey Shaya,<BR/><BR/>I went through similar stuff up in Rochester in the 80's albeit without the official sanction of the Rabbi's.<BR/><BR/>As a "freshie" I was open to attacks from upperclassmen whenever they felt like it.<BR/><BR/>The most important thing up there was getting to davening on time, or you got detention. The Rabbi's didn't give a shit if someone was getting beaten up though, as I got suspended every month for being late to davening and class and the upperclass hoodlums never did.DaveKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05168429623251839801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5040881863817723172.post-82979448356097886012009-04-12T10:43:00.000-07:002009-04-12T10:43:00.000-07:00It has since closed, but many of the "Rabbanim" cu...It has since closed, but many of the "Rabbanim" currently work at other Yeshivahs. I have not kept tabs on them though.Shaya Getzelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02557335334618038043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5040881863817723172.post-38160450241127086022009-04-11T22:36:00.000-07:002009-04-11T22:36:00.000-07:00i really hope you will publicize the name of this ...i really hope you will publicize the name of this yeshiva. there must be some legal action you can take or at the very least there should be an investigation of the place if it still exists today.kisaritahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18181012456635737873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5040881863817723172.post-70981272240315137222009-04-09T14:29:00.000-07:002009-04-09T14:29:00.000-07:00The truth is I've gotten over it, and hardly think...The truth is I've gotten over it, and hardly think about it nowadays, but that conversation brought it all back.Shaya Getzelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02557335334618038043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5040881863817723172.post-78004357234020984132009-04-09T09:48:00.000-07:002009-04-09T09:48:00.000-07:00That is horrible. Frankly, I recommend almost eve...That is horrible. Frankly, I recommend almost everybody who goes OTD see a therapist. It's helped me a lot. I never suffered anything like you did though. Sorry you had to go through that. :-(Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5040881863817723172.post-50218359677025160162009-04-07T16:44:00.000-07:002009-04-07T16:44:00.000-07:00This is horrible.This is horrible.Off the Derechhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12284266882043971891noreply@blogger.com