It's neither possible nor practical for Paul to denunciate fringe groups without destroying his credibility and his campaign. Since you appear determined to discredit Paul on this forum, your opinion matches your goal. At least you're consistent, I suppose.

-Mac

I don't like people who are backed by Neo-Nazis, KKKs, Radical Lefties, Jew haters, Isolationist losertarians and other clueless people who think we still live in the 17th century and don't appreciate the interconnectivity of our world. This guy is just a populist moron whom I believe should be discredited and exposed for what he is by any SANE person who truly believes in Conservative ideas. I think I have said enough! thnx

So if I have have understood this comment correctly, you dislike candidates who are supported by people who's ideas you dislike or view as disgusting even. In that case would you be against Stephen Harper if one day NDP and communist supporters voted for him? Wouldn't that just mean that one person has to have ideas you disagree and vote for a candidate for you to disown the candidate? I see no logic there. Although as I recall from history politics is most often illogical...

It's neither possible nor practical for Paul to denunciate fringe groups without destroying his credibility and his campaign. Since you appear determined to discredit Paul on this forum, your opinion matches your goal. At least you're consistent, I suppose.

-Mac

I don't like people who are backed by Neo-Nazis, KKKs, Radical Lefties, Jew haters, Isolationist losertarians and other clueless people who think we still live in the 17th century and don't appreciate the interconnectivity of our world. This guy is just a populist moron whom I believe should be discredited and exposed for what he is by any SANE person who truly believes in Conservative ideas. I think I have said enough! thnx

So if I have have understood this comment correctly, you dislike candidates who are supported by people who's ideas you dislike or view as disgusting even. In that case would you be against Stephen Harper if one day NDP and communist supporters voted for him? Wouldn't that just mean that one person has to have ideas you disagree and vote for a candidate for you to disown the candidate? I see no logic there. Although as I recall from history politics is most often illogical...

I'd be very disappointed if NDP supported PM Harper. And things crazy uncle Paul says are disturbing. He can't be the president. He has no experience and his ideas are of the 17th century. Period!

I'd be very disappointed if NDP supported PM Harper. And things crazy uncle Paul says are disturbing. He can't be the president. He has no experience and his ideas are of the 17th century. Period!

Why would you be disappointed if any supporters of any other party voted for someone you liked, because that would be wrong to appeal to everyone? I was under the impression thats what made the Conservative party so great! Paul can be president (otherwise he wouldn't be running but that doesn't mean he will be. He has plenty of experience in government if you look at how many times hes been elected to the house and his previous white house bid. And finally the comment on ideas being those of the 17th century, it should be noted that the prevalent ideas in our society, that is freedom and democracy have been around since about the 5th century BC. I get the impression your clutching at straws with your mild slander against a very respectable candidate.

I'd be very disappointed if NDP supported PM Harper. And things crazy uncle Paul says are disturbing. He can't be the president. He has no experience and his ideas are of the 17th century. Period!

Why would you be disappointed if any supporters of any other party voted for someone you liked, because that would be wrong to appeal to everyone? I was under the impression thats what made the Conservative party so great! Paul can be president (otherwise he wouldn't be running but that doesn't mean he will be. He has plenty of experience in government if you look at how many times hes been elected to the house and his previous white house bid. And finally the comment on ideas being those of the 17th century, it should be noted that the prevalent ideas in our society, that is freedom and democracy have been around since about the 5th century BC. I get the impression your clutching at straws with your mild slander against a very respectable candidate.

That's exactly where you Ron Paul supporters are wrong and hopefully the crazy uncle won't win any thing. The guy is still a nutcase in the eyes of sane people and your arguments won't change the fact that he is a loony losertarian

Btw, I didn't invent the term LOSERTARIAN. Michael Medved did and I am just copying it. :wink:

Check the following link... Can any sane person defend this insane candidate?

Dr. Paul has acknowledged his newsletter was "ghostwritten" for some years and he wasn't keeping track of the content which he has subsequently disavowed... but that's not good enough for you, I expect.

Whether you invented the insulting term 'losertarian' or not certainly doesn't excuse your repeated use of it here. It's lucky the libertarians on this forum (including myself) are more tolerant than you.

Tell me, Winston2004... do you have a medical degree? How many babies have you delivered? How many books have you written? How many elections have you won? What do you bring to the table that qualifies you to criticize someone so much more accomplished than yourself?

Tell me, Winston2004... do you have a medical degree? How many babies have you delivered? How many books have you written? How many elections have you won? What do you bring to the table that qualifies you to criticize someone so much more accomplished than yourself?

-Mac

I think your line of questioning doesnt make sense at all. I am not the candidate. He is. And he has to be responsible for stupid stuff he has done over the years. If we were to follow your advice of not criticizing people that have done more than us, then what should regular citizens do? I am very much at liberty to say any thing against any one I please. He is a candidate with anti-semitic views and with supporters from very terrible groups and therefore I believe he has to be criticized for things he has said.

This would be true if losertarians were more prevalent in Canadian society, but unfortunately with Canada's hate crime laws and human rights commissions such as you say is not the reality.

I lived a good portion of my life under the rule of ayatollahs back in Iran and they couldn't take my rights away, let alone the fishy socialist Canadian HRC. Human spirit is limitless. They can jail me, but they can't jail my thoughts.

Winston, I think you might bemore successful in your arguments if you tone down the emotional language and for lack of a better word, name-calling. I heartily disagree with a lot of Dr. Paul's foreign policy, but I will not call him crazy or a moron - that would make me no better than those who have been peddling the 'Bush is dumb' meme for the last 8 years.

Winston, I think you might bemore successful in your arguments if you tone down the emotional language and for lack of a better word, name-calling. I heartily disagree with a lot of Dr. Paul's foreign policy, but I will not call him crazy or a moron - that would make me no better than those who have been peddling the 'Bush is dumb' meme for the last 8 years.

I am not emotional at all. I'm just wondering if there is one SANE political pundit that endorses this crazy guy. I doubt any sane individual endorses him.

I don't think Harper should give recognition in any form to groups like Nazis. Paying any attention to them positive or negative only draws attention to them. It is not Ron Paul's responsibility to repudiate fringe supporters.

I don't know if mixing up Harper with Ron Paul was intentional or nor, but Craig makes a very good point. Manning and Harper (although to a lesser extent) had to fight these types of attacks all the time.

I wish people would debate based on policy and not based on information from drive-by smear artists.

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