I was really big on him coming out of college and hoped he'd be a Tony Allen type player. I knew he'd never be able to shoot. Still is a better player than Porter, who screams major bust to me. I'm actually a little surprised that they didn't pick up Vesely, I thought that he was developing and that they'd still allow him to grow on the team.

$13m coming in will do it but it puts them in tax. Ariza and porter have to be included. That is all they have though. I'd rather keep Rudy. Charlotte, Cleveland, And Detroit would be on my preferred trading partner list before Washington.

$13m coming in will do it but it puts them in tax. Ariza and porter have to be included. That is all they have though. I'd rather keep Rudy. Charlotte, Cleveland, And Detroit would be on my preferred trading partner list before Washington.

Fair enough. I wouldn't be crazy about this trade either. But it basically all just hinges on what kind of a prospect you think Porter JR is. If he's a legitimate top 3 quality talent, then that's probably as good as you would get for Rudy. If you think he's a bust waiting to happen, then I agree: not worth it.

I haven't seen enough of him to be able to say one way or another.

Honestly, I would love to see Uriji somehow snag a 2014 lottery pick for Gay. I just have no idea how he would do it. Seems like the only teams likely to get desperate won't be in a position to give us that kind of pick.

Honestly, I would love to see Uriji somehow snag a 2014 lottery pick for Gay. I just have no idea how he would do it. Seems like the only teams likely to get desperate won't be in a position to give us that kind of pick....

Yeah, cant think of anyone who would do that in today's CBA. Hopefully this trade would move the Raptors' own pick into the lottery though. Im presuming this trade only happens if our record come December isnt too flattering in the first place...