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DG, 1ST(s) and possibly Lance for Rondo

Why BOS does it:
Clear space for 2014
Draft picks with which to rebuild
Lance is young cheap talent to pair with DeAndre Jordan (if such a deal were to go)
Danny for a season on an expiring deal is way less risky than keeping a potentially subpar Rondo for the future.

Why IND does it:
Hibbs, West, PG, Hill and Rondo would be unstoppable.
High risk/high reward scenario
IND can't depend on premier FA choosing to come here, so we roll the dice on Rondo and multiple Finals appearances and hopefully some hardware to go with it.

Last edited by Drew46229; 06-24-2013 at 10:08 AM.
Reason: BOS doesnt save money with this deal

Re: DG, 1ST(s) and possibly Lance for Rondo

I'm sure I'm probably missing something, but on the surface, this seems like a pretty good idea. If Boston is willing to totally blow things up and start from scratch, it would be worth making the phone call.

Re: DG, 1ST(s) and possibly Lance for Rondo

I love the idea of pursuing Rondo if Boston is really going to blow it up, but remember in any scenario you're probably not going to have him for at least the first 2-3 months of next season. So if you give up Danny and Lance in a deal who starts next to Hill for that period of time?

Re: DG, 1ST(s) and possibly Lance for Rondo

I love the idea of pursuing Rondo if Boston is really going to blow it up, but remember in any scenario you're probably not going to have him for at least the first 2-3 months of next season. So if you give up Danny and Lance in a deal who starts next to Hill for that period of time?

Granted it is certainly possible that he does miss 2-3 months, he could be ready by the season. He'll have 9 months since surgery before the season starts. Boston believed, or at least acted, like they thought he'd be ready for training camp.

All-Star point guard Rajon Rondo underwent successful knee surgery Tuesday that was performed by Dr. James Andrews, Celtics team president of basketball operations Danny Ainge told the Globe Wednesday.

"Dr. Andrews thought the surgery went great, clean, no complications, no other damage," Ainge said.

Rondo was diagnosed with a torn anterior cruciate ligament Jan. 27 after suffering the injury a few days earlier in a double-overtime loss to Atlanta in late January.

Ainge said Andrews used a patellar tendon graft to help reconstruct Rondo's torn ACL, and that Rondo is optimistic about a full and speedy recovery.

Ainge added that Rondo is especially infatuated with Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson, who tore his left ACL in December of 2011, and had Andrews operate Dec. 30 with a patellar tendon graft, then returned to the field less than 10 months later. Peterson finished this past season just nine yards short of the NFL's single-season rushing record.

The typical recovery time for professional athletes to recover from ACL surgery can be nine months to a year. However, the Celtics have said that they expect Rondo to be back by training camp, which begins in October -- eight months away.

Ainge added that Leandro Barbosa, who was diagnosed with a torn left anterior cruciate ligament Tuesday, also sustained medial collateral ligament damage and will wait about a month before his surgery to strengthen his left knee.

And yes, if we could absorb Courtney Lee that would solve any issues. I understand he's paid too much, or at least too long, but from a purely basketball stand point, I'd rather have Lee in '13-'14 than Lance Stephenson.

Re: DG, 1ST(s) and possibly Lance for Rondo

Since no one's come along to call me an idiot yet, I'm going to consider this a success! LOL

If we have to swallow a poison pill in this trade I'd rather bite the bullet on Lee than Terry's atrocious deal. Lee may just need a change of scenery (especially coming home), whereas JET will continue to suck for the foreseeable future...

Now if we could just find a way to send Green out in this deal. Anyone wanna tackle that?

Re: DG, 1ST(s) and possibly Lance for Rondo

Since no one's come along to call me an idiot yet, I'm going to consider this a success! LOL

If we have to swallow a poison pill in this trade I'd rather bite the bullet on Lee than Terry's atrocious deal. Lee may just need a change of scenery (especially coming home), whereas JET will continue to suck for the foreseeable future...

Now if we could just find a way to send Green out in this deal. Anyone wanna tackle that?

I think he's pretty good anyway. He played well in the 2nd half (after Rondo went down... heh). I'm not really sure that Boston sees him as someone they want to 'get rid off'.

Re: DG, 1ST(s) and possibly Lance for Rondo

Sorry, this trade makes no sense. Rondo is a legit star, he's in his prime and not on a bad contract. Granger is pretty much past his prime and coming back from an injury, and he's also playing on PP's position, so you can't say he's the missing piece for a ring. The two picks will be like what, 20-25ish? No way you can build around that.
Rondo will only be traded for a top prospect that you could actually build around. They don't get one here so they have no reason to take this deal.

Re: DG, 1ST(s) and possibly Lance for Rondo

I was working from the perspective that BOS will be tanking/trading (firesale) assets this year. It makes perfect sense, in that scenario. Danny is a $14M expiring contract (ie cap relief), 2 1st round picks (granted in the late 20's) can be packaged with BOS picks to move into the lottery or acquire young talent (young talent, the other thing rebuilding teams covet.) Also, the BOS/BKN talks of today just go further to prove my point, that BOS is looking to rebuild.

Nuntius,
I would love to see Rondo in the blue and gold for purely basketball related reasons.
1. He's a triple double waiting to happen.
2. He's a guy who can reliably throw an entry pass into the post, something we've been lacking.
3. He loves to assist (are we sure this guy's not Canadian?), as the 4th or 5th scoring option on a team loaded with stud post players he could easily rack up 10-12 assists or more a night.
4. Hill is not a true point guard. He works best as a combo guard and could primarily play the 2 with the starters AND spend some time at the 1 with the backups.

Re: DG, 1ST(s) and possibly Lance for Rondo

I was working from the perspective that BOS will be tanking/trading (firesale) assets this year. It makes perfect sense, in that scenario. Danny is a $14M expiring contract (ie cap relief), 2 1st round picks (granted in the late 20's) can be packaged with BOS picks to move into the lottery or acquire young talent (young talent, the other thing rebuilding teams covet.) Also, the BOS/BKN talks of today just go further to prove my point, that BOS is looking to rebuild.

The Celtics (probably) want cap relief but they have no reason to trade their assets for much lesser assets and then trade these lesser assets for something else. If two future 20ish picks could get you quality young players then the Pacers would have already traded these picks for talent. But these picks don't really have much value, and are nowhere near Rondo's value.

Re: DG, 1ST(s) and possibly Lance for Rondo

Looking at how the chips have fallen, I think a deal like this could be more feasible:
(I don't think the Pacers would consider trading for Rondo because of money and character but lets put that aside)

Clippers would have to sign and trade someone like Odom to the Celtics (1 year deal) to make it happen. Anyway, I don't think the Pacers would be interested, but I think this is close to what the Celtics could get.

Re: DG, 1ST(s) and possibly Lance for Rondo

I love the idea of pursuing Rondo if Boston is really going to blow it up, but remember in any scenario you're probably not going to have him for at least the first 2-3 months of next season. So if you give up Danny and Lance in a deal who starts next to Hill for that period of time?