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griffin is a younger amare who needs to get fed by an elite pg to be effective

Now you have the Lakers asking for Shump possibly and they are interested in Chandler who sources say the Knicks will not let go unless we can get rid of JR as well.....Good thing we signed JR too a 4 year deal and now rather then be trade bait he is our issue to get rid of ..........Why oh why did we need to sign JR for 4 years when he testes free agency and nobody made him offer.....doesnt that dictate a players market value......

Now you have the Lakers asking for Shump possibly and they are interested in Chandler who sources say the Knicks will not let go unless we can get rid of JR as well.....Good thing we signed JR too a 4 year deal and now rather then be trade bait he is our issue to get rid of ..........Why oh why did we need to sign JR for 4 years when he testes free agency and nobody made him offer.....doesnt that dictate a players market value......

I thought JR was signed to a 2 year deal with a 3rd year as a player option? I didn't think he had a 4th year in that deal.

I thought JR was signed to a 2 year deal with a 3rd year as a player option? I didn't think he had a 4th year in that deal.

You are correct 3yr deal 3rd yr player option. He's a better player than what he has shown so far and he is due to come out of that slump but JR has been the main reason the Knicks are so bad.

I could see the Clips making this deal for Melo in an attempt to get them over the top in a competitive WC. It's also one of the few teams that Melo would bless going to and opens up trade possibilities for a multi-team deal where we get picks and the some other team gets Griffin.

It may not be necessary to blow up the team just yet, with Bargs and Stat coming to life this team may finally be turning the corner. TC comes back, we may just turn around the ship.

If Melo is to be traded, I believe the Clippers and Griffin must be involved. I do not see Melo out of New York or LA. Melo is a great player but he needs solid players around him. We do not have them. I am all for a rebuild now.

If Melo is to be traded, I believe the Clippers and Griffin must be involved. I do not see Melo out of New York or LA. Melo is a great player but he needs solid players around him. We do not have them. I am all for a rebuild now.

I agree 200%.

I said previously:

Originally Posted by nuckles2k2

At this point, I'd trade Melo to a lottery bound team (if they're stupid enough to trade out of this lottery) then hope for a top 4 pick, AND THEN hope that Julius Randle or Jabari Parker falls into our lap.

Then as a Knicks fan, I'd hope we don't end up drafting the water boy from NC State or some ****.

But obviously, Melo going to a lottery-bound team is a pipe dream.

I don't really want Griffin here, I'd rather see him go somewhere that produces a lottery pick that give the Knicks a decent chance at Jabari.(3-team, obviously)

I watched that Duke vs Kansas game, in November, to see Wiggins #1 and Parker #1A.

But came away thinking that Jabari is the realest of the deals. That jumper is so effortless, he's sneaky athletic and can finish at the rim, he has the basketball IQ to make the correct play in the heat of the moment, and the size to be a decent defender.

If we have to lost Melo, I want Parker to replace him.

I just don't think it's realistic at all. So I've fallen back on the 2nd pipe-dream of Rondo before the deadline, to entice Melo to stay. He's clearly a diff player with a comprehensive point guard.

The only Melo deal I'd take is the one where Melo goes to the Clippers, Blake goes to the Suns and the Knicks get the draft picks.

Agreed.

Only potential problem, is that I think with the new CBA, any team over the luxury tax has to take back equal dollar values in any trade. So even if the players being moved from the Knicks and Clips were a match, and Phoenix can absorb the contracts they get, I think the Knicks still have to take something back to match the money leaving.

Why not get Griffin. He is still young. We could go after Kevin Love and a PG

because we are better off with draft picks,,,,,then trading CHandler for a first round....having 4 draft picks and a group of players that have expiring contracts makes the Knicks a big player in Free agency in 2015 , have 4 new first rounders in 2014, and hopefully have shump and hardaway still......so I think thats a very pretty picture of a future,

because we are better off with draft picks,,,,,then trading CHandler for a first round....having 4 draft picks and a group of players that have expiring contracts makes the Knicks a big player in Free agency in 2015 , have 4 new first rounders in 2014, and hopefully have shump and hardaway still......so I think thats a very pretty picture of a future,

It would be fun to watch Melo with Chris Paul and see if thats really what melo has been missing,,,,,,