I did some research on this prior to my granddaughter's 4yr vaccinations and it appears that it is not so likely to cause autism, but could make a child already with autism worse.

After checking with the GP he said that thimerosal (containing mercury) was banned in Australia. This little granddaughter has shown some mild autistic tendencies, so there was concern there. On his assurances, she was vaccinated and there were no issues.

If there are concerns, apparently the MMR (Measles, Mumps, Rubella) which is the one most likely to have mercury, they can be given at different times rather as a combination. That means more jabs for the child, but would be better than risking an increase in autism to a child that may already have it.

I have two other step grandkids who to have Aspergers and which is most likely genetic. They both did get much worse after their MMR vaccs, so perhaps there is something in the idea that it can make kids worse who are already autistic.

For those that want to understand the side effects and problems arising from vaccines, the CDC have a DB you can search. Just enter the vaccine name/product/side effect and search away. eg Deaths relating to MMR vaccines total 304 with 62% in the 1-2 yr age group.

I spoke to a head nurse at ACT health a couple of years ago on vaccine safety, and she refused to believe vaccines caused any deaths period! She doubly refused to believe the US government tracked vaccine side effects at said URL below, even though I ran a search query over the phone with criteria she specified. "Don't believe what you read on the Internet" was her final response. Very few in the health industry are aware of this site (and many simply don't want to know).

... "Don't believe what you read on the Internet" was her final response. Very few in the health industry are aware of this site (and many simply don't want to know).

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Yes OWG - that is exactly the response I have received over my daughter's mental health medications that are riddled with potential horrific side effects. Her liver enzymes have now increased dramatically and also showing kidney function is no longer optimal. The only thing that has changed is WITHDRAWING from prescription medication.

I think the medical people are living in the dark ages when it comes to the internet. Maybe, years ago, people only went to the internet to report problems. These days, there are forums such as this one where regulars chat. There are so many out there and I have found far more information in reading real life experiences than you will ever find in a pharma leaflet. People are reporting both good and bad.

I researched on zyban for depressed people with low energy. The reports were surprisingly favourable for that condition. Probably people with low dopamine levels. Those who had side effects were more those who did not have low motivation to begin with.

I do think the internet is an amazing source of knowledge. I don't take anything as gospel, but then often the real life experiences guide one in further research to back up those ideas.

The internet has changed. Plenty of people blog their experiences these days - both good and bad.

The controversial row surroundings alleged links between the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine and autism is set to be reignited following a court ruling in Italy.

Judges in Rimini, north-east Italy awarded the Bocca family Euros 174,000 (£140,000) after the Italian Health Ministry conceded the MMR vaccine caused autism in their nine-year-old son Valentino. Up to 100 similar cases are now being examined by Italian lawyers and experts suggest the case could lead to other families pursuing cases.​

Now you can get a vaccine for any thing but ADD ADT XYZ etc are all in the news, to the best of my knowledge some or all theses vaccines contain Mercury and another additives. I have heard stories were some parents have taken their child to be vaccinated and next day the child was a vegetable. In USA it is compulsory to have all the injections up to date or you are arrested and fined. Seem strange to me all these new health problems have arrived in the last decade who knows what they are putting in the vaccines and what games they are playing.

Of course, the danger is that if people only focus on the potential side effects and choose not to vaccinate, the un-vaccinated will be at risk of contracting conditions that have caused harm or death to many people in the past.

The statistical risk of contracting these conditions is far greater than that of suffering a serious side effect to the vaccination, and if the percentage of un-vaccinated in the population grows, so does this risk.

Not saying that people shouldn’t be made aware of potential side effects, just make sure you keep an eye on the big picture.

The links some people make! As an ex-educational psych, school Principal, advisor to education support schools and grandfather of an autistic child ---- look for hard research evidence not crappy scare-mongering statements made by those who thrive on guesswork and publicity.

It is fascinating how there is a tendency to ignore that coincidence does not equal correlation and yet this appears to be what anti-vaccine proponents tend to do. One day it would be nice to take them to a hospital ward and show them a child whose brain has been "fried" as a result of measles. Hello encephalitis.

The incidence of infection by contagious, but avoidable, diseases has increased in areas such as Nimbin as the vaccination rate has dropped below 85%.

Eighty children get chickenpox at Brunswick North West Primary, a school that calls for 'tolerance' of vaccine dodgers ​

One in four of the children who attend a Brunswick school that calls for tolerance for vaccine dodgers has contracted chickenpox.

At least 80 of the 320 pupils at Brunswick North West Primary in Melbourne's north have become ill with the disease in the past fortnight.

It is understood the illness spread though grade 6, before making its way through the lower levels to grade 2.

The Department of Health was first notified about the chickenpox cases on November 26.

"There are no firm figures on the number of students who have contracted the illness since then, but we've been advised that over the period there has been an absentee rate of about 25 per cent on any given day," a department spokesman said.

The 11-week-old daughter of an anti-vaccination activist has been hospitalised for two nights with whooping cough, a week after a maternal health nurse told child protection authorities of her concerns for the unvaccinated baby girl.

But hours after being discharged from hospital on Friday, the Melbourne woman struck a defiant note, hinting to other members of the Facebook group Unvaccinated Australia that she had lied to hospital doctors in order to leave the hospital.

Doctors had urged her to immunise the baby because having had the disease only gives a child immunity for five years, and the vaccine contains immunisations in addition to pertussis.

"I ended up sayIng I would be talking to GP about it juto [sic] shut them up," she told supporters.

Andrea Martin As a mother, I put my parenting decisions above all else. Nobody knows my son better than me, and the choices I make about how to care for him are no one’s business but my own. So, when other people tell me how they think I should be raising my child, I simply can’t tolerate it. Regardless of what anyone else thinks, I fully stand behind my choices as a mom, including my choice not to vaccinate my son, because it is my fundamental right as a parent to decide which eradicated diseases come roaring back.

The decision to cause a full-blown, multi-state pandemic of a virus that was effectively eliminated from the national population generations ago is my choice alone, and regardless of your personal convictions, that right should never be taken away from a child’s parent. Never.

Say what you will about me, but I’ve read the information out there and weighed every option, so I am confident in my choice to revive a debilitating illness that was long ago declared dead and let it spread like wildfire from school to school, town to town, and state to state, until it reaches every corner of the country. Leaving such a momentous decision to someone you haven’t even met and who doesn’t care about your child personally””now that’s absurd! Maybe I choose to bring back the mumps. Or maybe it’s diphtheria. Or maybe it’s some other potentially fatal disease that can easily pass among those too young or too medically unfit to be vaccinated themselves. But whichever highly communicable and formerly wiped-out disease that I opt to resurrect with a vengeance, it is a highly personal decision that only I and my family have the liberty to make.

The bottom line is that I’m this child’s mother, and I know what’s best. End of story. Politicians, pharmaceutical companies””they don’t know the specific circumstances that made me decide to breathe new life into a viral infection that scientists and the nation at large celebrated stamping out roughly a century ago. It seems like all they care about is following unexamined old rules, injecting chemicals into our kids, preventing ghastly illnesses that used to ravage millions and have since been erased from storming back and wreaking mass havoc on a national scale, and making a buck. Should we really be listening to them and not our own hearts?

I am by no means telling mothers and fathers out there what to do; I’m simply standing up for every parent’s right to make his or her own decision. You may choose to follow the government-recommended immunization schedule for your child, and that’s your decision as a parent. And I might choose to unleash rubella on thousands upon thousands of helpless people, and that’s my decision as a parent.

It’s simple: You don’t tell me how to raise my kids to avoid reviving a horrific illness that hasn’t been seen on our shores since our grandparents were children, and I won’t tell you how to raise yours.

Look, I’ve done the research on these issues, I’ve read the statistics, and I’ve carefully considered the costs and benefits, and there’s simply no question in my mind that inciting a nationwide health emergency by unleashing a disease that can kill 20 percent or more of its victims is the right one for my child.

all my kids are fully vaccinated. Indeed the oldest two, we even paid full price for extras that have only been covered by the pbs in the last 9 years, from memory one was a gut infection and I think chicken pox was the other. The eldest still got a mild case of chickenpox anyway. None have any ill effects though the youngest is more headstrong than her gene pool would indicate...

Now A little older myself I have a healthy cynicism about drug companies and nearly fall into the conspiracy theory camp in my thoughts on them. If go further and even include some doctors and health groups (including cancer council). After seeing how far all are prepared to go to protect drug companies markets.

While it is Not a vaccine, in America champix (well the same drug diff name) has been linked to suicides and has a warning label describing as such. Today on the radio I heard doctors and lobbyists explaining how important it was not to scare people in Australia till there was evidence to prove it caused suicides in Australia.

Compare that to electronic cigarettes (also a quit method) where drug companies don't get a penny, and suddenly cancer council / doctors / gov want evidence to prove they are completely safe before people should be allowed to use them. They would ban them if only they could link a few more deaths to them.

We all know as investors we expect companies we own to do whatever they have to do to protect their bottom line. If I owned a snake oil company I would expect them to sell it as a cure all. Of course long term returns are important too so we don't want them to be purely short term focused, ie there needs to be a grain of truth to your product.

Would it be so surprising that drug companies wouldn't bend the truth a little around efficacy v side effects. Would it really be surprising that the clinics they get to test said vaccines didn't give them positive reports?

To be fair I am not talking small pox vaccine here which is by all accounts a genuine breakthrough for humanity, rather the dearth of additional vaccines we are being peddled these days as adults and for our children.

A toddler got meningitis. His anti-vac parents gave him an herbal remedy. The toddler died. Now his parents are on trial. ​

On March 5, the Canadian government opened its trial against David and Collet. The charge: failing to provide their 19-month-old son, Ezekiel, the necessaries of life.

According to prosecutors, David and Collet stubbornly refused to take their sick son to see a doctor, instead giving him home remedies such as smoothies containing hot pepper, ginger root, horseradish, onion and apple cider vinegar. Even after warnings from a family friend who is a nurse, the anti-vaccine couple took him to a naturopath for echinacea ”” an herb believed to stimulate the immune system ”” instead of to a doctor for an exam.

It was only when Ezekiel began to have trouble breathing that they rushed him to a hospital, prosecutors said.

By then, it was too late.

Ezekiel died from bacterial meningitis and empyema, two conditions routinely cured with antibiotics, a medical examiner told the court last week, according to the Lethbridge Herald.

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