Comments on: Ronny Paulino suspended for 100 gameshttp://mlb.nbcsports.com/2014/02/12/ronny-paulino-suspended-for-100-games/
Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball.Fri, 09 Dec 2016 17:21:08 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: bigharoldhttp://mlb.nbcsports.com/2014/02/12/ronny-paulino-suspended-for-100-games/#comment-654414
Thu, 13 Feb 2014 02:33:37 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=511239#comment-654414BS, that’s all he was accused of. And, the CBA and JDA were completely ignored on the whim of Bud Selig. Hell, had he got caught selling PEDs it’s still a 50 game suspension.

Hate A-Rod all you want but the point is what’s the use of having a CBA if one party can and will ignore it when it suits their purpose. When the party that is suppose to enforce the “rules” goes about systematically breaking them to attain their desired outcome that is just wrong. The ends do not justify the means.

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Thu, 13 Feb 2014 01:49:33 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=511239#comment-654398Sucks for the Tigers because they don’t have much depth at catcher. Looks like Jim Leyland’s son Pat may be getting another shot behind the plate!!!!http://minoringinbaseball.com/
]]>By: bigharoldhttp://mlb.nbcsports.com/2014/02/12/ronny-paulino-suspended-for-100-games/#comment-654395
Thu, 13 Feb 2014 01:42:18 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=511239#comment-654395” ARod was offered 50 games and didn’t take it. ”

That sounds like pure BS. What, MLB offered him 50 games, .. he said no so they said; “How dare you!! Now we’re going to burn you to the ground.”?

All MLB had to do was suspend him for 50 games go to arbitration, .. which is where it ended up anyway, . and eliminate the drama. A-Rod had his initial 217 game suspension whittled down but it likely means that he’d have lost if they just got 50 games. Everything about Biogenisis would have come out anyway, (instead of MLB’s completely contemptible leaking to the press with utter disregard for the confidentiality and integrity of the appeals process), .. A-Rod’s “legacy” would have been sufficiently damaged but most importantly “Justice” would have been served. No.no, .. nothing is that simple in Bud Selig’s world, .. besides Bud. Instead MLB ramped up their heavy handed KGB act, .. distorted the civil court system with their asinine law suit with their reprehensible dirt bag “paid” informant as the foundation, .. likely broke the law buying “evidence”, (and that after they were warned by law enforcement not to do so), and turned what should have been a quick relatively simple disciplinary process into a year long soap opera. They antagonized, threatened, demonized and generally waged a low life PR war against A-Rod rather than respect the process. Bud Selig is the worst baseball commissioner I know of, .. and I’m old enough to remember Bowie Kuhn.

You have to ask why MLB wouldn’t do the smart simple thing and give A-Rod the penalty prescribed in the JDA and CBA? Why did Selig go way far out of his way to turn MLB into a freak show of bad reality TV by turning A-Rod into Public Enemy Number One? Personally I think it was in part to get even with Bonds and Clemens because they essentially got away with it. Also, part was because he wanted his legacy to by that he “cleaned up baseball”, (to that I think it be cleaner if not smarter when he leaves himself). Maybe, like so many others he just has an irrational dislike for A-Rod that boarders on pathological. Apparently A-Rod has that affect on a great many people. Regardless, Selig’s handling of this was not in the best interest of baseball and is yet another example of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

In the end, there is no way that logic would indicate that A-Rod ever turned down a 50 game suspension because MLB would never have started with the lowest possible sanction if they were looking to make a deal with A-Rod. If that was MLB’s intention they could have just as easily merely suspended him and been done with it. Also, apparently Bud Selig is that smart to begin with.

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Thu, 13 Feb 2014 01:42:04 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=511239#comment-654394Oh, Larry, go back to Twitter.
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Thu, 13 Feb 2014 00:38:50 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=511239#comment-654371I’m not going into the PED thing again. What I’m concerned about is ancient slang. Craig, to “drop a dime on” somebody is the same as “rattin’ ’em out.” But by telephone. Telephones were devices with dials that had numbers on them and wires that ran to other wires and gizmos and finally connected up with other telephones. Some of the telephones were “pay telephones.” In that case, you inserted a dime and got to make a local, anonymous call–say, to police headquarters. Hence, “dropping a dime.”

Next class we will cover gender designations, such as mug, lug, dame, and frail. Please do your homework. For extra credit, watch Peter Lorre as Joel Cairo in The Maltese Falcon.

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Wed, 12 Feb 2014 23:46:21 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=511239#comment-654348First, the just clause has nothing to do with other bargains, if they exist, or not. The ruling by Horowitz is possession/consumption of x banned substances at the same time should be punished for x times the suspension of each single offense then they should be applied universally to all players, at the time of the ruling and beyond.

Second, nothing has been confirmed of the “50 game suspension offer”. Even you said you can’t tell “no idea who” rejected what offer. Such “offer” is 100% hypothetical and not even one word of it has made its way into Horowitz’s comments. It just has no influence to the award, even if it existed.

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Wed, 12 Feb 2014 23:29:04 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=511239#comment-654343So what you’re saying the primary difference you see between Calcaterra and a blog-post troll is salary?
]]>By: DelawarePhilliesFanhttp://mlb.nbcsports.com/2014/02/12/ronny-paulino-suspended-for-100-games/#comment-654341
Wed, 12 Feb 2014 23:27:15 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=511239#comment-654341heh heh – nah, just have fun. Truth be told, I wasn’t sure if you were serious or not
]]>By: cur'68http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2014/02/12/ronny-paulino-suspended-for-100-games/#comment-654329
Wed, 12 Feb 2014 23:17:23 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=511239#comment-654329Actually, it was but a simple request. I can’t find any proof of statement and was hoping you could. Touchy when questioned, aintcha?
]]>By: DelawarePhilliesFanhttp://mlb.nbcsports.com/2014/02/12/ronny-paulino-suspended-for-100-games/#comment-654327
Wed, 12 Feb 2014 23:16:16 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=511239#comment-654327Seeing as I am not on trial, I think I will decline your demand of evidentiary proof.

Craig’s previous posts have indicated he accepts that rumor as probably true, which sort under cuts the claim here that simple “dime dropping” results in more severe penalties. When the dime was dropped on ARod, he should have settled

Now go have a cup of chill

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Wed, 12 Feb 2014 22:51:45 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=511239#comment-654319Also there is no provision in the CBA for 3×50. It’s 50 games for first offense, 100 games for a second offense, and lifetime ban for a third offense. So there is no justification for getting 150 games for three offenses.
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Wed, 12 Feb 2014 22:45:21 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=511239#comment-654316Can you prove that ARod was ever offered the 50 games, though? I’ve tried to say this exact same thing and others have shot it down. Do you have a link or report you can cite?
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Wed, 12 Feb 2014 22:43:32 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=511239#comment-654314I said this once, too: ARod was offered 50 games and didn’t take it. Someone got on here to inform me that this wasn’t so. He’d indicated to MLB he would take the 50 and MLB turned him down was how it happned. Now I don’t know about you, but I think there’s a lot of wishy washy in this “who offered what to whom”. I think the best you can say is that at one point 50 games was on the table. Someone rejected it. No idea who.
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Wed, 12 Feb 2014 22:26:44 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=511239#comment-654300And OJ is innocent. So was Ryan Braun…. until he wasn’t.
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Wed, 12 Feb 2014 22:25:33 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=511239#comment-654298Working for nothing? If you’re a Florida Gator then you should know. I, on the other hand, have a job that pays a helluva lot more than a blogger. But since it’s snowing here in Atlanta today I have a little more time to screw around. Hence my comment. Go back to your janitorial work gator boy.
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Wed, 12 Feb 2014 22:18:25 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=511239#comment-654293Lance Armstrong also never tested positive. But look at him now.
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Wed, 12 Feb 2014 22:17:52 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=511239#comment-654292Fortunately Horowitz’s entire comment is released to the public. It is clearly stated A-Rod’s punishment was 3×50 games for violating the PED usages all at once. Ditto for Cohoes, 2×50 = 100 game suspensions.

Everybody can read, no need to troll.

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Wed, 12 Feb 2014 22:10:49 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=511239#comment-654285All I can say to you is to read the arb’s opinion carefully. He empasizes the number of occasions of use over the three year period.
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Wed, 12 Feb 2014 22:07:55 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=511239#comment-654281You completely failed at law.

First, nobody confirmed any “plea bargain” ever existed.

Second, the arbitrator never mentioned “plea bargain” in his entire comment. That means, regardless or such “bargain” existed or not, it has no bearing to the award.

Third, just clause applies to all the players.

Fourth, Cohorts wasn’t said to have offered a “plea bargain”, he should be punished 100 games under the just clause.

]]>By: Old Gatorhttp://mlb.nbcsports.com/2014/02/12/ronny-paulino-suspended-for-100-games/#comment-654277
Wed, 12 Feb 2014 22:05:21 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=511239#comment-654277Maybe, but he’s the one getting paid well for doing this while you’re a troll working for nothing.
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