Epipactis gigantea

When someone as knowledgeable as Tony Avent, and a nursery person in
addition, gives a different name than I am used to, I pay attention because
we do like to have correct nomenclature in our own sales area (I admit to
not having changed our Cimicifugas to Actaea, however--BAD).
We list Epipactis gigantea 'Serpentine Night' and not Epipactus giganteus
'Serpentine Knight'. The RHS Plant Finder also has the former. Tony, was
that just a slip of the fingers, or is there some controversy regarding the
name?
Ernie O'Byrne
Northwest Garden Nursery
86813 Central Road
Eugene OR 97402-9284
USA
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FAX: 541 935-0863
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From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Tony Avent
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 2:28 PM
To: Pacific Bulb Society
Subject: Re: [pbs] Epipactis gigantea
Mary Sue:
Surprisingly, Epipactus giganteus grows wonderful for us in bone dry sand.
We irrigate occasionally through the summer, but it has proven to be
amazingly durable. We have grown the cultivar E. 'Serpentine Knight' for
about 8 years.
At 07:15 AM 7/17/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Dear All,
>
>Our wildflower season is winding down now although we are still enjoying
>the starry flowers of the Chlorogalum on those hot days we walk in the
>evening. A couple of weeks ago however we saw this orchid on one of our
>hikes growing close to the Gualala River. It is probably covered by water
>during the winter months when the River runs high, but now is growing in
>the gravel. A lot of our local orchids really need a hand lens to
>appreciate as the flowers are quite small, but this one has larger flowers.
>This species has rhizomes and this particular plant is expanding each year.
>My field guide says that it is found on the margins of lakes, streams, and
>springs in the Pacific states. I saw a picture of this species in a slide
>shown by Roger Raiche at a California Horticultural Society meeting as it
>grows on his property, the Cedars, which has serpentine soil and can be
>very hot in summer (and VERY wet in winter.)I thought it was very pretty at
>the time but thought it would need to be quite wet to grow well, but now I
>wonder how dry it would be in summer. Epipactis gigantea is listed in the
>Telos Catalog and maybe Diana will tell us how she grows it. I haven't made
>a Wiki page yet for it, but here are pictures Bob took:
>http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/…
>And for size:
>http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/…
>
>You may remember that we were discussing how to arrange field guides. My
>friend who arranges by color and is rewriting her book was along so we
>began to discuss where she was going to put this plant. She uses white,
>yellow, red, pink, blue, green, and brown as the choices. She was going to
>put it in pink, but had changed her mind to yellow. Most of us voted brown
>as from a distance that is what you notice, but my husband thought green.
>Another said mauve would be good, but my friends just groaned and said
>there wasn't going to be a mauve. I looked it up in Peterson (Pacific
>States Wildflowers) which also arranges by color and it is described as
>having yellow-green flowers, but is on a page that is the transition from
>orange to pink (because of the lip which they describe as orange.) I know
>the colors on everyone's computers will be a little different so don't know
>what you all will think. This certainly illustrates how a few plants are
>challenging to classify by color.
>
>Mary Sue
>Mary Sue Ittner
>California's North Coast
>Wet mild winters with occasional frost
>Dry mild summers
>
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Tony Avent
Plant Delights Nursery @
Juniper Level Botanic Garden
9241 Sauls Road
Raleigh, NC 27603 USA
Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
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"I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least
three times" - Avent
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