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There will be a backlash once this phenomenon begins to penetrate the Chilean self-absorption that is often mistaken for tolerance. Its already happening in less culturally primitive countries than this one.

have a look at those comments though under it. pretty much the stake in the heart of the socialist party, communist party, or however they try to rebrand themselves. the poor got screwed by them, and they are turning against them in a big way. it will take several generations before the new imigrants are a sufficient force to save the left in chile from it's own sucide mission. any politician that is pro-immigration now, and needs votes from a middle class or poor electorate is toast.

which fine by me. they also tended to be the biggest bunch of corrupt thieves.

And the reason it happened? Sr. Thauby speculates that it was done to highlight Bachelet's humanitarian credentials in order to assist her (eventually successful) bid for future employment at the U.N. as Human Rights Commissioner.

yea, i just don't get the, what is the end game? what is the gain, when it is obvious political sucide?

merkel is in the same camp in the EU.

are they realy that big of true believers in marxisism, to risk their careers and legacies at all costs? for some haiten immigrants?

does not add up.

just before that last post i was thinking what the long-term effect on politics in chile.

the far left's power has been in decline for some time, this one is just the end of the old school communist, socialist, and left leaning DC. it will force any up and coming politicians, if they want to have a chance to be elected move more center right.

let's face it for about half or more of the politicisns on the left it was never about "helping the people". it was about job security and a fat pay check. they will bend to which ever direction the political winds are blowing.

i am not however sure that is a good thing. keeping that center political keel has kept chile out of a lot of trouble that many other countries in latin america have faced.

let's face it for about half or more of the politicisns on the left it was never about "helping the people". it was about job security and a fat pay check. they will bend to which ever direction the political winds are blowing.

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let's face it for about half or more of the politicians ̶o̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶l̶e̶f̶t̶ it was never about "helping the people". it was about job security and a fat pay check. they will bend to which ever direction the political winds are blowing.

Smelling nepotism critics focused on Bachelet Coto’s young age and professional inexperience. Normally, seasoned bureaucrats from the foreign ministry or one of its branches vie in internal contests for the attaché position, which draws a CLP$10 million (US$15,000) monthly salary. But Piñera sidelined the experts.

oh, that is nothing. the foreign affairs ministry and the consulates outside of chile have been a cesspool of nepotism and corruption for decades; never mind half the "councilors" outside chile are "honorary councils" that are not even chileans. they are foreigners that often times don't even speak spanish, let alone know much about chile.

my wife's uncle spent nearly 40 years working in the diplomatic core. among other things he was at one time the head of the U.N. mission in new york. towards the end of his career he was named special council / auditor of the foreign affairs ministry, in charge of investigating the embassies overseas. Let's just say he was forced in to retirement about 6 months after taking that job. no one was too interested in turning over all those rocks.

like chadwick, the minister of the interior, has repeatdedly domonstrated his complete ignorance of the immigration system every time he opens his mouth. so too most of the comments you see about it under articles.

this law has a long way to go before anyone can even definitvly say what is in it.

Which is probably the best way to go about it. Figure the majority that signed-up are either unhappy or could not get their feet under them, which gets a lot of the people with potential to be most problematic back to Haiti rather than on the streets of Chile, leaving those that are determined to make it here a bit more breathing room (both for the immigrants and the government).

The number of Venezuelans entering Chile on tourist visas leaped to 26,181 in November, the fastest pace since March, according to the Sub-secretary of Tourism. Arrivals dipped in the middle of the year after the government introduced a rule stipulating that Venezuelans needed to apply for new visas before traveling to Chile if they wanted to find work. That measures only seems to have had a temporary impact.

Like I mentioned somewhere on the this thread before, there is a little problem with Pinera's plan to stop tourist from changing their visa status with the new law going around congress: seems no one working for him bothered to read the old law and even fewer seem to know how either would work in practice.

I don't see any signs of them making the changes they need in the new law, to eliminate the right to change visa status. Seems a bunch of Venezuelans figured that out.

What is going to be really funny, is if they get the new immigration law through, makes a big political show out of it stopping tourist from changing status, then discover the hard way it does not stop tourist from changing their status. Which will probably send them back to congress for another 30 years of debating an immigration reform.

will be interesting to see how many of the haitens and Venezuelans are still here in say 5 years.

I bet a large chunk of the haitens either go home or move on to another country. if Venezuela stabilizes, a good portion will go home also. might not happen right away, but if there are some positive signs a lot will go home.