I guess you mean Kocur? Kocur was known to throw possibly the hardest right in hockey and it destroyed people. Tootoo is not even close, he is an agitator.

Yes, I meant Kocur, sorry. Tootoo is definitely more of an agitator, like Maltby. I wasn't referring to Tootoo's punching ability, rather his willingness to fight. Unless I'm mistaken, Tootoo fights way more than Maltby ever did. It will be nice to have a guy who will defend the cheep shots that I'm sick of seeing go without repercussion.

With every passing day I hate this signing more. With every passing post trying to tell me this was a good move, I respect the Hockey IQ of this fan base less. I don't know how many times I said what an awful hockey player he was in Nashville and used it as an example of their ignorance. Someone said it so well on another thread... with a player with such on and off ice issues given too much money and term, it seems inconceivable that Holland cannot go after Semin.

"It is a lot easier to be an ******* to words than to people"-xkcd

Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.

This thread has been closed due to emotions being higher than people's ability to read, interpret, and properly respond to simple posts.

With every passing day I hate this signing more. With every passing post trying to tell me this was a good move, I respect the Hockey IQ of this fan base less. I don't know how many times I said what an awful hockey player he was in Nashville and used it as an example of their ignorance. Someone said it so well on another thread... with a player with such on and off ice issues given too much money and term, it seems inconceivable that Holland cannot go after Semin.

Get over it,He is red wing for 3 years,complaining about how you hate this signing or how bad jordin tootoo is as a player is not going to change anything

With every passing day I hate this signing more. With every passing post trying to tell me this was a good move, I respect the Hockey IQ of this fan base less. I don't know how many times I said what an awful hockey player he was in Nashville and used it as an example of their ignorance. Someone said it so well on another thread... with a player with such on and off ice issues given too much money and term, it seems inconceivable that Holland cannot go after Semin.

He' such an awful hockey player, yet he scored 30 points in 77 games last year. Why don't we compare his production to a few of our bottom 6ers:

Still look like a terrible hockey player? He's got some offensive touch and he'll add that element of grit that we haven't seen in a while.

Tootoo was a healthy scratch in the playoffs because they had acquired Paul Gaustad and Brandon Yip before the playoffs, giving them depth at forward.

It is so funny that people hate Jordin Tootoo because of his past. Yet, we loved Chris Chelios, who wasn't the cleanest player before he came here. Bertuzzi threw a pretty big cheapshot, yet we seem cool with him here.

Just because people don't agree wholeheartedly with your stance on Tootoo doesn't mean the fanbase has a "Low IQ". As I've shown, Tootoo outproduced many players on this team last year, and should be a welcome addition to the team, considering he also has a pair of balls.

Are you sure that if someone complains about it in every thread that Holland won't change his mind and trade him off of the wings?

With every passing day I hate this signing more. With every passing post trying to tell me this was a good move, I respect the Hockey IQ of this fan base less. I don't know how many times I said what an awful hockey player he was in Nashville and used it as an example of their ignorance. Someone said it so well on another thread... with a player with such on and off ice issues given too much money and term, it seems inconceivable that Holland cannot go after Semin.

Sure, Tootoo isn't Parise, he isnt Nash or Ryan, but he does change the way other teams have ot play against us....not many people liked the Drake signing either, but he did the same thing, made it harder to play against us....

If you don't like us or the Wings anymore, I feel the obligatory "Go Root For The <insert team name here> Then..." comment is warranted here...but in the end, I think everyone will be happy with Tootoo. He isnt gonna win us the Stanley Cup, but it was a pretty good pickup...

Still look like a terrible hockey player? He's got some offensive touch and he'll add that element of grit that we haven't seen in a while.

Tootoo was a healthy scratch in the playoffs because they had acquired Paul Gaustad and Brandon Yip before the playoffs, giving them depth at forward.

It is so funny that people hate Jordin Tootoo because of his past. Yet, we loved Chris Chelios, who wasn't the cleanest player before he came here. Bertuzzi threw a pretty big cheapshot, yet we seem cool with him here.

Just because people don't agree wholeheartedly with your stance on Tootoo doesn't mean the fanbase has a "Low IQ". As I've shown, Tootoo outproduced many players on this team last year, and should be a welcome addition to the team, considering he also has a pair of balls.

I blame you all the time. =)But yeah people need to stop and look at the numbers before saying he is the worse player in the league. If thats the case then what do we call Emmerton? Hell he shouldn't even be playing. He should just be our Ice Girl.I know TooToo has done some things in the past that we all have been like wtf about...but so did chris c and bert and look how they turned out. I am excited to see tootoo on the line with helm and abby maybe? wow.

He will quickly....i repeat quickly become a red wing and red wing fan favorite. He alone will get the Joe rocking game after game. Gritty nasty f***** that we all bitched and worried about every time we played the preds....now other fan bases and teams can ***** and worry about playing against him....he will put up 40pts this year....mark it dude!!!

With every passing day I hate this signing more. With every passing post trying to tell me this was a good move, I respect the Hockey IQ of this fan base less. I don't know how many times I said what an awful hockey player he was in Nashville and used it as an example of their ignorance. Someone said it so well on another thread... with a player with such on and off ice issues given too much money and term, it seems inconceivable that Holland cannot go after Semin.

And with every passing day, it should become more and more apparent nobody gives a s*** what you feel about the signing, maybe you should join a fanbase with a much better hockey IQ like Toronto or Van.

Edited by ben_usmc, 10 July 2012 - 04:09 PM.

There's no I in team, but there's a U in c***, so don't be little jealous c***s

i'm pretty sure that holland has heard of semin. holland's problem has never been that he doesn't go after anybody. he went after suter and parise. he didn't get them. if he gets nash, or weber, or doan, or some combination therein, nobody will be shaking over suter and parise in minnesota. we do still have zetterberg and datsyuk. ian white. jimmy howard. cleary. franzen. kronwall. minnesota is trying to keep up. it's not like they suddenly leapt ahead of detroit.