Garry Doucette wrote:
> I feel a little embarassed...
>
> The bulb in the lamp connected to the Lamplinc burned out!
>
> I never thought to check the obvious before jumping to the conclusion it was
> the Insteon device.
>
> DOH!
>
> Sorry guys, false alarm.
... ummm no--not false alarm. You still should not have seen those
messages in the log. Something is still amiss. I did note that your
original log messages looked like a forced restart followed by the
"normal" startup messages. I'd still like to know what may have caused
this flury of busy messages given your relatively modest insteon
network. I'm still considering this an issue.
Gregg

I feel a little embarassed...
The bulb in the lamp connected to the Lamplinc burned out!
I never thought to check the obvious before jumping to the conclusion it was
the Insteon device.
DOH!
Sorry guys, false alarm.
Garry
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Subject: Re: [mh] Insteon Lamplinc Quit Working
Gregg Liming wrote:
> Garry Doucette wrote:
>> I'm not sure what to do now but my first thought is to unplug the
>> device and try relinking it again.
>
> Relinking it? Is this a switchlinc or keypadlinc? If not, then
> there's no real need to link it unless you are experimenting w/ scenes
> or set ramp rates. Perhaps you could elaborate what you did in the way of
linking?
Doh! Your title says Lamplinc. Ok, that makes me really suspicious about
what link you did attempt to create and separately how you've declared this
device in items.mht. Could you post the relevant portions?
Gregg
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Gregg Liming wrote:
> Garry Doucette wrote:
>> I'm not sure what to do now but my first thought is to unplug the device and
>> try relinking it again.
>
> Relinking it? Is this a switchlinc or keypadlinc? If not, then there's
> no real need to link it unless you are experimenting w/ scenes or set
> ramp rates. Perhaps you could elaborate what you did in the way of linking?
Doh! Your title says Lamplinc. Ok, that makes me really suspicious
about what link you did attempt to create and separately how you've
declared this device in items.mht. Could you post the relevant portions?
Gregg

Neil Cherry wrote:
> Garry Doucette wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure if it's at all related but yestarday I upgraded the OS on Nokia
>> 770 using the version suggested by Gregg. The wifi connection seems much
>> more reliable now but if the N770 has been asleep for awhile and when woken
>> up the buttons in the IA5 interface are not responsive. Earlier I kept
>> hitting the on off button for the lights_office_lamp over and over in
>> frustration. I'm wondering if that's what broke it; too many commands sent
>> all at once?
>
>> I'm not sure what to do now but my first thought is to unplug the device and
>> try relinking it again.
>
> I found this info:
>
> "The PLM will lock up sometimes during heavy sending/receiving ...
> All it will do is respond with NAK's. The only way to recover is
> too unplug the PLM."
>
I can personally vouch for this experience as it once happened when I
tried trimming the transmit delays down too much (like to 0). However,
after returning the delays back to sane defaults, I've never seen it
happen again. And, I have an order of magnitude more insteon devices
than Gary does--not to mention deliberately "beating on them" through
testing. So, I am thinking that either some "corner condition" is
occurring that is unanticipated and/or a bad link was created.
On a related note, Insteon_PLM tries to interrogate every defined
insteon device at startup. If you for any reason mess up the addressing
or unplug it, then you will see excess retry attempts that will slow
everything up. Likely, it will be necessary/desirable to provide a way
of discovering goofs or absent insteon acks of this sort.
Gregg

Garry Doucette wrote:
> Not sure what happened, but one of my Insteon devices (I only have two at
> the moment) no longer responds.
>
> Here's the print log when I start up MH.
>
> Display call with tk disabled (-tk 0). Text=MisterHouse restarted
> unexpectedly! 0
> 10/19/07 02:53:58 PM [Insteon_PLM] Interface extremely busy.
> 10/19/07 02:53:58 PM [Insteon_PLM] Interface extremely busy.
> 10/19/07 02:53:59 PM [Insteon_PLM] Interface extremely busy.
> 10/19/07 02:53:59 PM [Insteon_PLM] Interface extremely busy.
> 10/19/07 02:53:59 PM [Insteon_PLM] Interface extremely busy.
> No active sessions
> 10/19/07 02:54:00 PM [Insteon_PLM] Processing message for $lights_under_deck
> 10/19/07 02:54:12 PM [Insteon_Device] WARN: queue timer on
> $lights_office_lamp expired. Attempting resend
> 10/19/07 02:54:43 PM [Insteon_Device] WARN: queue timer on
> $lights_office_lamp expired. Trying next command if queued.
This last message means the retry attempts have maxed out--definitely
not good. Can you please set debug=insteon and let me know what's going
on via the log? You can post off-list if excessive (and, it might well be).
BTW: I've never seen this personally except for once when I tried
trimming the time delays down too much. Can you restart mh and look for
info at the very start which should read something like:
[Insteon_PLM] setting default xmit delay to: 0.125
If it reads something like "" or 0; then this is a problem. FWIW: You
can control this value via the ini parm: Insteon_PLM_xmit_delay. Please
don't set it to any value less than 0.125 as I can almost assure you
that it can/will eventually lead to lock ups.
> I'm not sure if it's at all related but yestarday I upgraded the OS on Nokia
> 770 using the version suggested by Gregg. The wifi connection seems much
> more reliable now but if the N770 has been asleep for awhile and when woken
> up the buttons in the IA5 interface are not responsive. Earlier I kept
> hitting the on off button for the lights_office_lamp over and over in
> frustration. I'm wondering if that's what broke it; too many commands sent
> all at once?
hmmm... off-hand, I don't know as I've never tried pushing things like that.
> I'm not sure what to do now but my first thought is to unplug the device and
> try relinking it again.
Relinking it? Is this a switchlinc or keypadlinc? If not, then there's
no real need to link it unless you are experimenting w/ scenes or set
ramp rates. Perhaps you could elaborate what you did in the way of linking?
Gregg

Garry Doucette wrote:
> I'm not sure if it's at all related but yestarday I upgraded the OS on Nokia
> 770 using the version suggested by Gregg. The wifi connection seems much
> more reliable now but if the N770 has been asleep for awhile and when woken
> up the buttons in the IA5 interface are not responsive. Earlier I kept
> hitting the on off button for the lights_office_lamp over and over in
> frustration. I'm wondering if that's what broke it; too many commands sent
> all at once?
> I'm not sure what to do now but my first thought is to unplug the device and
> try relinking it again.
I found this info:
"The PLM will lock up sometimes during heavy sending/receiving ...
All it will do is respond with NAK's. The only way to recover is
too unplug the PLM."
--
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http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site
http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog
Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies

Hi Guys
Not sure what happened, but one of my Insteon devices (I only have two at
the moment) no longer responds.
Here's the print log when I start up MH.
Display call with tk disabled (-tk 0). Text=MisterHouse restarted
unexpectedly! 0
10/19/07 02:53:58 PM [Insteon_PLM] Interface extremely busy.
10/19/07 02:53:58 PM [Insteon_PLM] Interface extremely busy.
10/19/07 02:53:59 PM [Insteon_PLM] Interface extremely busy.
10/19/07 02:53:59 PM [Insteon_PLM] Interface extremely busy.
10/19/07 02:53:59 PM [Insteon_PLM] Interface extremely busy.
No active sessions
10/19/07 02:54:00 PM [Insteon_PLM] Processing message for $lights_under_deck
10/19/07 02:54:12 PM [Insteon_Device] WARN: queue timer on
$lights_office_lamp expired. Attempting resend
10/19/07 02:54:43 PM [Insteon_Device] WARN: queue timer on
$lights_office_lamp expired. Trying next command if queued.
I'm not sure if it's at all related but yestarday I upgraded the OS on Nokia
770 using the version suggested by Gregg. The wifi connection seems much
more reliable now but if the N770 has been asleep for awhile and when woken
up the buttons in the IA5 interface are not responsive. Earlier I kept
hitting the on off button for the lights_office_lamp over and over in
frustration. I'm wondering if that's what broke it; too many commands sent
all at once?
I'm not sure what to do now but my first thought is to unplug the device and
try relinking it again.
Any thoughts?
Garry

Jason Sharpee wrote:
> Can you compile esd on it? Thats what I do for my Ipaq's running
> familiar.
It's Linux, of course we can but it would be wiser to cross compile.
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Can you compile esd on it? Thats what I do for my Ipaq's running
familiar.
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007, Tim Sailer wrote:
>
> On Thu, October 18, 2007 23:25, Jason Sharpee wrote:
>>
>> I was looking at this a couple of days ago. As nice as it would be
>> to have, the $179 price tag seems a little too steep (for $99 maybe). Id
>> rather spend the $179 on a 770 and get a whole lot more.
>
> I have 5 audreys and 2 n800s. The audreys are more useful at this time
> simply due to the fact that MH can push speech and music through them. If
> someone could figure out how to do that with the nokias, I'd replace the
> audreys with the 770/800 in a heartbeat. The 800s are starting to get
> cheaper as the time for the next model gets closer...
>
> Tim
>
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Gregg,
Nothing matters... and what if it DID?
;-)
Jack
Helping to lower the bar wherever I go...!
:-p
Gregg Liming wrote:
>
> proofing against idiots only encourages them to keep the bar low...
>
> BTW: I didn't realize votes matter unless someone that will implement a
> solution is soliciting such a vote.
>
> Gregg

Jack Edin wrote:
> So it *WAS* something st-st-stupid!!!
>
> It turned out to BE /case-sensitivity/ _after all_!
>
> Did I mention a need to idiot-proof this??
>
> Well as the idiot in this case - my vote is *YES*!!
proofing against idiots only encourages them to keep the bar low...
BTW: I didn't realize votes matter unless someone that will implement a
solution is soliciting such a vote.
Gregg

Garry Doucette wrote:
> Hi Jeff
>
> I've got Lirc working here to control a stereo that I'm using as a PA
> system. It's not very fancy but it works.
>
> I'm using this RS232 IR blaster http://www.irblaster.info/
>
> Once I had Lirc up and running, I set up a number of scripts using irsend to
> control the stereo. For example...
>
> #! /bin/sh
> irsend send_once stereo VOL+
> exit 0
>
> I made the scripts executeable and put them in a directory under
> /opt/misterhouse called stereo_control.
>
> Here's the code that I have in my /opt/misterhouse/code directory.
>
> # Start of Audio.pl
[ code clipped 8< ]
> # End of Audio.pl
>
> This was my very first little project in MH so it's probably pretty crude
> but it does work.
>
> Hope it helps.
Great timing, I had some code that worked but I'll give this a try.
I also just received a few from the IR Blaster folks. I've got to
add them to my collect of links in the IR section.
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Hi,
I've got both MH and LIRC running on a Ubuntu box and would like to
use them together. I've searched the usual places, and looked through
the distribution code, but have just found mentions of the two
together. Does anyone have code or pointers to integrate the two?
Thanks in advance,
Jeff

Jack Edin wrote:
> Hello Guys,
>
> I just tried to use Insteon (and MH) to solve a little problem, to no
> avail...
>
> I have a digital clock that will reset to noon (12:00 pm) when power is
> applied. So every day I will turn it off, and at noon - on again.
>
> I purchased an Insteon Appliance module...
> I created a new Item called "Clocks"...
>
> (items.mht)
>
> IPLD, 0B.F8.CF, Clocks, Insteon, myPLM
>
>
> I then created a new trigger for off, and another for on again...
>
> (triggers.mhp)
>
> # name=Clock_Off type=NoExpire
> if ((time_now '11:59 am') and &trigger_active('Clock_Off')) {
> # FYI trigger code: set $Clocks off;
> &trigger_run('Clock_Off',1);
> }
>
>
> # name=Clock_On type=NoExpire
> if ((time_now '12 pm') and &trigger_active('Clock_On')) {
> # FYI trigger code: set $Clocks on;
> &trigger_run('Clock_On',1);
> }
> When I go to the Edit Triggers, and choose "RUN" nothing happens...
> I see no effect on the clock, and the time last run is not updated either...
>
> What am I doing wrong?
I'm guessing that the $Clocks does not exist. I created a trigger, like
you did and I get the following code:
# name=Test type=OneShot
if ((time_now '12 pm') and &trigger_active('Test')) {
# FYI trigger code: set $ip_patio_light OFF;
&trigger_run('Test',1);
}
# name=Test 2 type=OneShot
if ((time_now '12 pm') and &trigger_active('Test 2')) {
# FYI trigger code: set $ip_patio_light ON;
&trigger_run('Test 2',1);
}
I can click on the run for either an they properly operate.
I know that $ip_patio_light has been created. I copied it from
the Insteon page (to test what was written on the page).
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The n770 does have flite (festival lite) complied as a package, so I
can make mine speak remotely via ssh. Someone has gotten the
cherokee web server ported to the n770 ( http://aksi.mdamt.net/node/
141 ), so creating a cgi script similar to how the audrey's work
_shouldn't_ be that difficult.
Music might be possible via the mediastreamer app, if it can somehow
read an icecast stream and be launched from the command line.
And of course now that Gregg has a 770, I'm sure we'll start seeing
xap clients :)
The two downsides are;
- size: while the screen is higher rez than the audrey's, the smaller
size makes it less 'finger friendly'.
- volume: while I did get speech working, it doesn't have the same
loud volume of the Audrey to announce to a room.
On 19-Oct-07, at 5:46 AM, Tim Sailer wrote:
>
> On Thu, October 18, 2007 23:25, Jason Sharpee wrote:
>>
>> I was looking at this a couple of days ago. As nice as it would be
>> to have, the $179 price tag seems a little too steep (for $99
>> maybe). Id
>> rather spend the $179 on a 770 and get a whole lot more.
>
> I have 5 audreys and 2 n800s. The audreys are more useful at this time
> simply due to the fact that MH can push speech and music through
> them. If
> someone could figure out how to do that with the nokias, I'd
> replace the
> audreys with the 770/800 in a heartbeat. The 800s are starting to get
> cheaper as the time for the next model gets closer...
>
> Tim
>
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Jason Sharpee wrote:
>
> I was looking at this a couple of days ago. As nice as it would be to
> have, the $179 price tag seems a little too steep (for $99 maybe). Id
> rather spend the $179 on a 770 and get a whole lot more.
>
> http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?dest=9999999997&product_id=7679702&sourceid=1500000000000003142050
>
>
>
>
Has anyone used the 770 with mh yet? Can you push audio to it and
remotely turn on / off the screen? It does look like a good buy. Do you
know how long the price has been that low, the original price is around $250
- James
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007, James Armstrong wrote:
>
>> I just got my private invite to the Chumby store. Looks like they are
>> going to start selling them finally. Has anyone looked into this for
>> Misterhouse? My Audrey is starting to age :(
>>
>> - James
>>
>> *What can you do with your chumby?*
>>
>> * Use it as an electronic photo frame for pictures on Flickr or
>> Facebook
>> * Use it as an iPod® player
>> * Wake up to the multi-tone alarm clock
>> * Catch the latest news headlines or use keywords for specific stories
>> * Track any eBay auction
>> * Keep up with your favorite sports team
>> * Search Craigslist classifieds and instantly email results to
>> yourself
>> * Monitor incoming email on any POP3 account
>>
>> *The chumby is packed with features:*
>>
>> * Access to the free Chumby Network
>> * Great selection of widgets and content (more every day!)
>> * 3.5" LCD color touchscreen
>> * wi-fi connectivity
>> * two external USB 2.0 full-speed ports
>> * 350 Mhz ARM processor, 64 MB SDRAM, 64MB NAND flash ROM
>> * Stereo 2W speakers, headphone output
>> * Accelerometer (motion sensor)
>> * Leather case - three colors: black, latte, and pearl
>>
>> Browse all the options at http://www.chumby.com/guide.
>>
>>
>>
>

On Thu, October 18, 2007 23:25, Jason Sharpee wrote:
>
> I was looking at this a couple of days ago. As nice as it would be
> to have, the $179 price tag seems a little too steep (for $99 maybe). Id
> rather spend the $179 on a 770 and get a whole lot more.
I have 5 audreys and 2 n800s. The audreys are more useful at this time
simply due to the fact that MH can push speech and music through them. If
someone could figure out how to do that with the nokias, I'd replace the
audreys with the 770/800 in a heartbeat. The 800s are starting to get
cheaper as the time for the next model gets closer...
Tim
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