Mayor Michael Bloombergs latest crime-fighting idea had a lot of people riled up on Friday.

The mayor wants to fingerprint more than 600,000 people who live in public housing. He said it would be done to make the projects safer.

Bloomberg was responding to questions about Federal Judge Shira Schendlins ruling on the stop-and-frisk program when the topic shifted to security and the New York City Housing Authority. Bloomberg said there has to be a way to make the projects safer.

Five percent of our population lives in NYCHA housing, 20 percent of the crime is in NYCHA housing  numbers like that. And weve just got to find some way to keep bringing crime down there. And we have a whole group of police officers assigned to NYCHA housing, Bloomberg said. The people that live there, most of them, want more police protection. They want more people. If you have strangers walking in the halls of your apartment building, dont you want somebody to stop and say, Who are you, why are you here?

But residents who live within the confines of NYCHA buildings said the mayors fingerprinting idea goes too far.

Thats like invading someones privacy or something. Why you want to fingerprint somebody? It is bad enough you get arrested, you get finger printed, so why you want to fingerprint us? Now Bloomberg needs to get a job. Get out of here already. Hes done. Bloomberg is done, Chelsea Houses resident Nino Alayon said.

Why? For what? We live here all these years, I mean, what seems to be the problem? This is not jail, added Deborah Gatling of the Chelsea Houses.

Put me in charge of food stamps. Food Stamp ATM cards could only be used for food without the ability to get cash. No money for junk food, alcohol, tobacco, or sodas - just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want steak and frozen pizza, alcohol or tobacco, then get a job.

Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks? You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your "home" will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried. If you want a plasma TV, Xbox 360 or a cell phone, then get a job and your own place.

In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or you will report to a "government" job. It might be cleaning the roadways of trash, painting and repairing public housing or whatever we find for you. We will sell your 22 inch rims, low profile tires and your blasting stereo and speakers and use that $$ to reduce the debt.

Before you write that I've violated someone's rights, realize that all of the above is voluntary. If you want our money youhave to accept our rules. Before you say that this would be "demeaning" and ruin "self-esteem," consider that it wasn't all that long ago that taking someone else's money for doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self-esteem.

If we are expected to pay for other people's mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards them for continuing to make those bad choices.

AND while you are on Govt subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes, that is correct, since voting would be a conflict of interest. You will abstain from voting while you are receiving a Govt welfare check. If you want to vote, then GET A JOB.

In Cuba or North Korea, if you don't work, you don't have a place to live, you don't eat, and so on. Public housing residents in NYC get free digs without having to work for it, unless having a pulse is considered working.

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posted on 08/16/2013 7:18:26 PM PDT
by Zhang Fei
(Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)

Bloomberg is a blooming fascist. Please tell him to get out of Colorado

Actually, he is fairly conservative in the traditional sense of the word, which eschews laissez faire and libertinism in favor of societal curbs on errant individual behavior. Fascism requires that a people be united via bonds of blood and soil. That's a physical impossibility in multi-racial and -ethnic New York City. Ultimately, he's clamping down on black and Hispanic criminals in NYC while couching it in ethnically neutral terms.

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posted on 08/16/2013 7:24:45 PM PDT
by Zhang Fei
(Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)

“AND while you are on Govt subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes, that is correct, since voting would be a conflict of interest. You will abstain from voting while you are receiving a Govt welfare check. If you want to vote, then GET A JOB.”

If they want government assistance, they will also have to get a voter ID card.

That will explode the heads on the left.

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posted on 08/16/2013 7:36:57 PM PDT
by EQAndyBuzz
(The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)

And they are damn skippy correct...except for one part (IMHO): violation of ‘Rights’. It is not the gov’t $$, it is the TAXPAYER $$. That ‘charity’ comes from the end of a gun. Don’t like the new rules, tough sh!te.

LOVE the barracks idea. Good enough for your (wo)men, good enough for the brood mares and the like. BARE minimum and ‘free’ cleaning of parks, streets, rest stops, etc.

Yep, that last part’d get ‘em off ‘assistance’ damn quick

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posted on 08/16/2013 8:00:53 PM PDT
by i_robot73
(Gov't always start as MAY and SHOULD, but soon becomes one of WILL and SHALL. Never let them START.)

If you live in public housing, then the government is paying your rent. And since you are relying on the government for your survival, then you have given them the right to run your life and tell you what to do. Deal with it, losers.

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posted on 08/16/2013 8:31:00 PM PDT
by jespasinthru
(Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)

I would have no problem with Social Security and Medicare requiring fingerprints. I had to be fingerprinted to work in the public safety field and didn’t mind a bit, because I knew it was required in order to work in that field, as it should be for any public employee or official. And because I’m not a criminal, I have nothing to worry about.

As far as I’m concerned, Bloomberg should also be requiring DNA, and anyone immigrating to this country legally or otherwise should be likewise required to comply. We have too much freedom for freeloaders, and not enough for people who take care of themselves and their families.

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posted on 08/16/2013 9:21:28 PM PDT
by Go_Raiders
(Freedom doesn't give you the right to take from others, no matter how innocent your program sounds.)

Some recipients do buy food for their kids, so in essence, it will be the kids who go hungry. People need to stop and think before they pop off at the mouth about every issue.

Why not go after other issues where your tax money goes - such as foreign aid to countries who hate us? There are a list of them, yet people want to bi*** about food stamps - as if they want to control what others can and can’t do. Last time I checked that was the mantra of the left.

Yes, there is fraud with the food stamp program, but there is with every program - yet so many on here rant and rave over this. Could it be that you resent helping others who are less fortunate? If so, then you really aren’t compassionate people. We’ve never had a say where our tax dollars go and yet they go to Planned Parenthood as well.

In a utopic world, there would be plenty for everyone - jobs, food, houses, cars, etc, but we don’t live in a perfect world, do we? How many on here actually are willing to sustain a family of four with food for 3 or more years? Some of you may help out at Christmas time, but other than that - nada! People need to eat all year round. So go ahead and throw your rotten tomatoes at me - I’ve been in the trenches and have seen it all -and many families need the help they receive from the food stamps - and those I’ve met aren’t milking the system - they have lost their jobs - gone through a divorce and have kids to feed and clothe and keep a roof over their heads.

The difference is that people have paid into SS and Medicare - the government isn’t giving them anything they haven’t contributed to. The government gives a very poor return on the money put into these programs - where has the rest gone?

And people who have lost their jobs and now receiving food stamps have also paid into that program when they didn’t need it.

Such judgmental people on here - there might come a time when some of you who sit in your ivory towers and throw stones will find yourself in the same boat. No wonder people who are having a hard time don’t vote for conservatives. They are scared and from the posts I’ve read on this forum - they should be.

I worked for many years and paid into programs for others to receive food stamps and yet I didn’t mind. My taxes also support public housing, abortions and grants to study the mating habits of praying mantis’s. Yet, more people harp on food stamps than anything else. Just because you may see someone driving an expensive car when they leave the grocery doesn’t mean they didn’t have that car before they lost their job.

Your reasoning smacks of more government intrusion into people’s lives. You call yourself a conservative? If so, then I suggest you do some critical thinking before trying to impose more rules and regulations on people. If this is your stance, then you might be better off at DU or Huffington Post with those who want to rule over others and tell them how to live.

To throw a little wood on the fire, all women who are getting ANY government money, Pell grants, section 8, WICS EBTS, small business loans, etc, should be required to get abortions if they get pregnant, or lose the benefits they already get!
If they could afford a child, then they obviously don’t need government aid.

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posted on 08/16/2013 11:08:06 PM PDT
by VanShuyten
("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")

Your reasoning smacks of more government intrusion into peoples lives.

That does not make sense. My reasoning just shows what follows when you cede more power to government.

If you support government authority to require people to give up basic constitutional rights to receive welfare, then you have no principled argument against similar intrusions in other programs that government created and regulates - like SS and Medicare.

I want to abolish all such programs not in keeping with the Constitution. Click on my name to see my outlook on such matters.

opposed to food stamps being used to buy junk food and other luxuries and being accepted at race tracks and the like

we all know that abuse is a problem, we have all seen it, and it is not hard to fix

a govt that can dictate what your kid gets served for lunch can dictate what healthy foods food stamps can buy. we can all break the code on moochelle Obama’s fixation on obesity - it aint rich white people

What you want and what you’ll get are 2 different things. Let’s see now - how can provide for the general welfare +written in the Preamble and in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution be interpreted?

I’m just messing with you. Of course, these words don’t mean welfare, but try to convince low information voters of this fact. They hear the word welfare - and their lights go on.

This is a very deep subject and I’m not going to waste any more time on it. If people would help out others less fortunate on a daily basis - then perhaps there would be no need for government programs. But, alas - this isn’t the case. People hoard for themselves and that isn’t the Christian thing to do either. So when people aren’t charitable toward others - government steps in.

These programs - like them or not - aren’t going any where unless they go broke.

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