Jerry/Jackie: this forum's subtitle should include white zin, Tavel, etc. but not Blanc de Noirs. First of all, a blanc de noir is typically not pink, like a rose champagne would be, and second, a TN about a blanc de noir should be in the champagne folder.

Blanc de Noirs simply means white from black grapes, and is a classification at many California wine competitions...as in in Blanc de Pinot Noir...Cabernet Blanc, etc

While it's true that most Champagnes (other than Blanc de Blancs) are indeed blanc de noirs, that name almost never appears on wines from that region...and I don't remember EVER seeing one until California popularized the terminology.

I don't think there's a problem with the term being here...and while they often are not classic pink, they do usually have a tinge of color, sometimes bronze.

The idea is "still" table wines produced in a Rose or "white" or "blanc" style and made from black grapes.

Guys, I hate to sound like a broken record of Senator Robert Byrd droning on and on and on about the constitution and procedures but LET'S TALK ABOUT WINE! While you were posting (slightly) anal deconstructions of the titling of subdivisions of this section of the board, couldn't you have posted SOMETHING about a nice blush or even commented on my post? We've got to give newbies a reason to visit here.

Here is another great Pink Wine that gets no respect: Heitz Grignolino, the best wine (in consistency and value for money) that Heitz makes and perfect with almost anything at any time. Consumers, tell your retailers you won't buy any Heitz Cab unless they stock this, reverse allocation pressure, I love it!