We are overpaying spencer, but he is far, far better of an overall player than Avril.
Whining for whining,s sake gets so old.

you might be right, but Spencer is switching positions and putting his hand on the ground. I know, he did it in college.

He is 30 and had one really good season. Many players have one really good season playing for a contract.

I hope I am wrong.

Tired of the Jones' bumbling in the draft, free agency and with the cap. Tired of one playoff win in 16 seasons. Tired of all the NFC teams improving while Dallas sits on its self inflicted salary cap hell.

Look at it this way, if we crash and burn this coming season - which everyone here expects us to do - imagine how much cap space we'll have in 2014 with Romo, Spencer and the $5m penalty off the books! We could sign the entire Jacksonville Jaguars!

Look at it this way, if we crash and burn this coming season - which everyone here expects us to do - imagine how much cap space we'll have in 2014 with Romo, Spencer and the $5m penalty off the books! We could sign the entire Jacksonville Jaguars!

Don't forget the conditional 7th round pick they can surely get for Kyle Orton.

Spencer would probably have been the prized pass rusher of the entire free agency class. We're paying Spencer 10m not because we want to pay him 10m or even because that's what it SHOULD cost, but because that's what you have to pay a guy when you franchise him two years in a row.

Our cap is a complete disaster right or it wouldn't seem that significant. I'm just weary of giving Spencer a long term deal. How many guys 30+ do we need to give these huge contracts to?

With Dumvervil, I think he'd be the most sought after pass rusher.

In terms of paying Spencer, I'm not really all that concerned about him being 29 or 30.

I think there are too many holes to dedicate so much cap space to one guy.

They had better work out a long term deal or trade him. Playing under the cap again is not an option. That would be $20M in total cap hits which is just insane to think about if the team has to constantly restructure every year to get the job done.

Consider that the cumulative cap hits for Romo over the last 5 seasons has been about $36M because of the maneuvering they have done. Even if he played at $16M this year, that's still less than the $10M/year that it would ultimately be for Spencer to play last year and this year as a tagged player and he still wouldn't be under contract nesxt and Dallas would be right back at square one next offseason.

Spencer is not the most important player on the team and yet to some extent he's being treated like he is.

If he plays tagged again, Dallas will have sacrificed a ton in order to rent a guy for two years.

That's kinda the problem with this organization and it's fans, they're handling disappointment better and better as the years go on. I guess we're just getting used to it.

You know, I remember listening to financial counselor Dave Ramsey and he said "Things won't change for you until you have a 'sick and tired' moment".
When will that moment be for this organization and it's fans? Is it 1 playoff win in 20 years, 1 in 25 years or 1 in 30?

Every year more and more "positive" fans turn into "complainers" because the results on the field doesn't warrant giving this team the benefit of the doubt. At some point this organization has to prove it on the field and in the front office to turn the tide of the public sentiment.

Positive fans and complainers just have a different way of looking at the same thing, two different sides of an argument. The thing that settles this argument is the teams record over the last 18 years or so.

Sad state of affairs when you're coming off a 3rd place finish in the weakest division in football and while other teams are signing free agents, not only can you not sign anyone, you're cutting players to get under the cap.

Baltimore is doing the same thing only they are coming off winning the Super Bowl.

That's kinda the problem with this organization and it's fans, they're handling disappointment better and better as the years go on. I guess we're just getting used to it.

You know, I remember listening to financial counselor Dave Ramsey and he said "Things won't change for you until you have a 'sick and tired' moment".
When will that moment be for this organization and it's fans? Is it 1 playoff win in 20 years, 1 in 25 years or 1 in 30?

Every year more and more "positive" fans turn into "complainers" because the results on the field doesn't warrant giving this team the benefit of the doubt. At some point this organization has to prove it on the field and in the front office to turn the tide of the public sentiment.

Positive fans and complainers just have a different way of looking at the same thing, two different sides of an argument. The thing that settles this argument is the teams record over the last 18 years or so.

Sad state of affairs when you're coming off a 3rd place finish in the weakest division in football and while other teams are signing free agents, not only can you not sign anyone, you're cutting players to get under the cap.

Baltimore is doing the same thing only they are coming off winning the Super Bowl.

Haven't you heard, the Cowboys are an up and coming team pointed in the right direction. ee:

...Sad state of affairs when you're coming off a 3rd place finish in the weakest division in football and while other teams are signing free agents, not only can you not sign anyone, you're cutting players to get under the cap.

Baltimore is doing the same thing only they are coming off winning the Super Bowl.

SilverStarCowboy;5025259 said:

Haven't you heard, the Cowboys are an up and coming team pointed in the right direction. ee:

you might be right, but Spencer is switching positions and putting his hand on the ground. I know, he did it in college.

He is 30 and had one really good season. Many players have one really good season playing for a contract.

I hope I am wrong.

Tired of the Jones' bumbling in the draft, free agency and with the cap. Tired of one playoff win in 16 seasons. Tired of all the NFC teams improving while Dallas sits on its self inflicted salary cap hell.

is'nt ware doing the same thing? seems like people are so concerned about spencer being able to do exactly what we are about to ask ware to do, but no one seems worried about ware who is coming off an injury being able to do the same thing spencer will be doing