Here is an opportunity to join in expanding knowledge about the "ultra-mobile PC". Our usual way is simply joining Puppy's development, but you can enhance your effort by getting your hands on the latest hardware (a possibility).

If you feel you have the time for this, then please let me know via PM or post a reply below. The deal: if you signify interest to receive the hardware prototype, your email address, postal address as well as phone number will be requested (Later, it's possible that your email address will be added to a developer mailing list).

Here is an opportunity to join in expanding knowledge about the "ultra-mobile PC". Our usual way is simply joining Puppy's development, but you can enhance your effort by getting your hands on the latest hardware (a possibility).

If you feel you have the time for this, then please let me know via PM or post a reply below. The deal: if you signify interest to receive the hardware prototype, your email address, postal address as well as phone number will be requested (Later, it's possible that your email address will be added to a developer mailing list).

These small plastic mobile PC's could get so cheap, that they could be installed on the customer's wall by ISPs or telecoms companies. (all included in the ISP package).

What does this mean for Puppy development? Could well be that all this dinosaur metallic PC hardware that we go to so much trouble to provide suitable OS's for will very soon be history. It may not even be worthwhile doing too much more with the Puppy 2 series, since nobody will be using the hardware it was designed for. Same applies to 3 series as well.

Barry is right about concentrating his development effort on the next generation of mobile hardware. That's where it's at now. It can only be a matter of weeks/months now before we see this actually happening.

Also web services will play a key role here.

Puppy is ahead of the game and is well placed to take a central position in this new world of thin computing. It may even be the case that it will be one of the few Linuces that will survive in this new kind of computing world. Time to learn all about it I'd say. I'm saving up my pennies for a Classmate (if I can find one!)

Any volunteers for Puppy Linux CE Classmate-1.0 -opera_mini.iso ?_________________Life is too short to spend it in front of a computer

These small plastic mobile PC's could get so cheap, that they could be installed on the customer's wall by ISPs or telecoms companies. (all included in the ISP package).

What does this mean for Puppy development? Could well be that all this dinosaur metallic PC hardware that we go to so much trouble to provide suitable OS's for will very soon be history. It may not even be worthwhile doing too much more with the Puppy 2 series, since nobody will be using the hardware it was designed for. Same applies to 3 series as well.

Barry is right about concentrating his development effort on the next generation of mobile hardware. That's where it's at now. It can only be a matter of weeks/months now before we see this actually happening.

Also web services will play a key role here.

Puppy is ahead of the game and is well placed to take a central position in this new world of thin computing. It may even be the case that it will be one of the few Linuces that will survive in this new kind of computing world. Time to learn all about it I'd say. I'm saving up my pennies for a Classmate (if I can find one!)

I'm probably not supposed to blab about what the Intel engineer has told me about the next Classmate. One thing though, is it will have a 9 inch screen -- that may be an option, I'm not sure. The current model has a 7 inch screen. This is no surprise, it's what we expect as these baby laptops are made to a price. The 7 inch LCDs are mass produced for DVD players and so cheap, but the 9 inch screen will move down in price. I think the Eee PC will soon have a 9 inch screen to.
You can see in both of them, there is room for a bigger screen, so they have planned ahead.

UPDATE: I think an 8 inch screen was mentioned as a possibility too._________________http://bkhome.org/news/Last edited by BarryK on Mon 28 Jan 2008, 19:20; edited 1 time in total

The deal: if you signify interest to receive the hardware prototype, your email address, postal address as well as phone number will be requested (Later, it's possible that your email address will be added to a developer mailing list).

Who gets to have access to this information, and where is it stored and displayed?

Who gets to have access to this information, and where is it stored and displayed?

I guess it's the same with a website requiring user information - you have to give personal information like email address. If you do, there's a good chance that you would receive information updates or questions from the site. AJ is pointing this out as the "no free lunch" situation. If you can live with that and you feel that your work goes along the same direction anyway (mobile, low-cost PCs), then you may choose to participate. It's all voluntary.

In this case, there is an Intel engineer* who has offered sending prototype Classmate PC to interested Puppy developers. Note that Barry has referred to an "engineer" in his blog a few times.

However, I plead to the reader not to dump emotional load on the person - he is an ally in this case, coming to us and offering to cooperate. While he has his own influence in the organization - promoting Puppy among his other pet ideas - he would have organizational boundaries (and bosses) to worry about, so please give him some slack. (if you want to refer to him, please just say "engineer", OK? )

Let's approach this very positively, the usual way of the Puppy Linux community.
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* Edit: Link to personal site was removed (as announced here).Last edited by raffy on Mon 28 Jan 2008, 23:57; edited 1 time in total

As AJ, with his negative comment, graphically points out; "There is no free lunch". However, I say "one hand washes the other". The information being requested is the same (maybe less) this is collected when one places an internet order. The amount of money for Intel is very small. It sounds like the 'engineer" has been told to "think outside of the box" by management. The "engineer" sees that puppy can meet the demands for a small robust operating system with sufficient applications to meet the needs of most users and is an "out of the box" solution.

At the start of the microprocessor age, Motorola handed out samples of its 6800 series and development kits. At the time, a 6800 microprocess cost about fifty to seventy US dollars for the device alone. The development kit was about 200 to 300 dollars. The dollar was worth a lot more then. One of the processor/kit samples ended up in the hands of a Mr. Jobs. Which is why Apple used the Motorola processors for a long time. In technology, spending small amounts of money in giving away samples can produce some great ideas that use the product.

Do you really think if you take part in this you will lose and only Intel will profit. If you like Puppy, here is a great chance for it to become a big part of the future. Haco is doing it with the Classmate in Vietnam._________________Enjoy life, Just Greg
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My stumbling block is the requirement for a telephone number.
Ordinarily, if some site requires a phone no. I wont deal with them, or I give a bogus no. , which I wouldnt do in this case.

I have no problem with someone like HP having my no., but who else gets hold of it is a concern.

To ship with Fedex, they require a phone number, an address and a name.
Phone number is used so that they can contact you if they deliver and you are not there. I shipped some books to Cape Verde and they ended up in Cape Verde, Chile. Fedex, bless them, worked this out by phoning the person I had sent the books to.

Looks like supply has been exhausted. Thanks for your PMs. I will post again if there is another opportunity.

I received clarification to the effect that the available units are among the first build of the Classmate PC. It may not be fresh out of the box - the unit that I would receive may have been used in a few demo activities already. No problem there.

To ship with Fedex, they require a phone number, an address and a name.
Phone number is used so that they can contact you if they deliver and you are not there. I shipped some books to Cape Verde and they ended up in Cape Verde, Chile. Fedex, bless them, worked this out by phoning the person I had sent the books to.

Exactly right.

Not wanting to dwell on this too long..
Because of where I live, it is very convenient to buy lots of stuff online, but:
I only do purchases using secure transactions, and I always give my phone no.
This, for me, is a blessing, as they always ring to see if I am going to be home before they come out here, and allows me to be there when they arrive.

To me, giving out my phone number, not knowing where it is going to be displayed, is not worth a truckload of freebies.

I have already had to alter my email address on the forum due to many solicitations from "cute young girls in Africa needing a sponsor to immigrate".. etc, etc.
originating from having that address publicly available on the forum.

I'm probably not supposed to blab about what the Intel engineer has told me about the next Classmate. One thing though, is it will have a 9 inch screen

One of the obvious uses of a machine of this type is as an eBook reader (or other content for that matter). Unless Classmate PC's screen resolution is increased from its current 800 x 480 (compare this to OLPC XO's max 1200×900 resolution), the increased screen size is not going to make things much better... Here is a good example of what I mean:
( http://www.olpcnews.com/hardware/screen/olpc_xo_resolution_display.html )

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