Better than not having an extra pick, but the odds of finding someone of value there are nil... Then again, always nice to have a late round pick to throw at another team to move up a notch or two if needed.

I dunno, Boone. I think the odds are much greater than Nil. We found Chris Horton & Rob Jackson in the 7th, and before that we snagged Rock Cartwright in the final round. The odds are not very good, however they aren't zero.

And Shanny has had some success with late round picks also, finding Peyton Hillis, Keith Burns and rock-solid, long time Bronco OC Tom Nalen.

So, do you think we could trade up with a couple of those seventh round picks and get an extra 5th rounder then parlay that into getting at least our fourth round pick back? Or just keep both 5th round picks? Or do you think the likelihood of getting enough of a better player that way wouldn't be worth the effort?

Just wonderin'-an' doing some conjectural head calculating here.

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I'm giving it a 2-4 year window. Looking for improvement in all areas. Redskins, you're on the clock.

So, do you think we could trade up with a couple of those seventh round picks and get an extra 5th rounder then parlay that into getting at least our fourth round pick back? Or just keep both 5th round picks? Or do you think the likelihood of getting enough of a better player that way wouldn't be worth the effort?

Just wonderin'-an' doing some conjectural head calculating here.

While I feel our best opportunity to gain more picks is a trade down from #10, this has to give us a shot to turn one of those 5th picks into a 4th. Since Big Al and McNabb were not traded before the CBA deadline we won't be getting any draft picks for them until next year if ever.

We still don't know what the Tryon pick will be at this point. Maybe as high as a 5th rounder, but probably a 6th.

With two picks (known) in the 5th, I say we stay there. All too often four or five gems that were expected to go in the latter part of round one or somewhere in round two tend to fall to the 5th. The tackle from Oklahoma two seasons ago fell to the 5th and Vinny passed - he starts for Chicago now. Stay there and get these potential starters/good players.

Package the first two 7ths and grab another 5th if another good player falls. 7ths are a crapshoot anyway and a 5th has a far better chance imho.

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