The Negro Masons are never exposed to the true Masonry. In the true Masonry, they're white-only. Lucifer is intent on guiding evolution to incorporate the AntiChrist and it cannot be in Negroes, AFAIK.

Re: My Grandfather was a 32nd Degree Mason...and revealed ALL to me...

The real secrets are not within Masonry proper. The secrets are within those allied organizations that only recruit master masons. Some of them are: Tall Cedars of Lebanon, The Grotto, Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia. Shriners only recruit 32 degree masons of Scottish Rite or Knights Templar degree of York Rite.

So, when masons say that there's nothing sinister or untoward about Masonry, they're being honest. However, if you ask about the Shrine. they'll be very evasive. What you're taught in the abstract in the degrees of Masonry, you actually put to practice in the allied organizations.

The real secrets are not within Masonry proper. The secrets are within those allied organizations that only recruit master masons. Some of them are: Tall Cedars of Lebanon, The Grotto, Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia. Shriners only recruit 32 degree masons of Scottish Rite or Knights Templar degree of York Rite.

So, when masons say that there's nothing sinister or untoward about Masonry, they're being honest. However, if you ask about the Shrine. they'll be very evasive. What you're taught in the abstract in the degrees of Masonry, you actually put to practice in the allied organizations.

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Re: My Grandfather was a 32nd Degree Mason...and revealed ALL to me...

I don't know anything about that organization,but I know my brother is a 32nd degree and has been a member for about 20 years. He used to be a kind loving person who cared about his family,now he is a person who always writes us the nastiest letters and he turned into a psychopath,it seems he hates his entire family and all he thinks about is his money and wealth. I have news for him,he is not taking any of that money with him when he dies. I think he sold his soul.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40017361

Masons are psychopaths. People have to have those kinds of tendencies to join in the first place. They progress up the pyramid based on how psychopathic they already are or are willing to become.

Masons do very bad things for their own pleasure and to progress to the higher levels. Lots of blackmail. They all have dirt on each other. It is their secrets that bind them not any sort of benevolent brotherhood.

Masons become possessed by demons or other malevolent entities through their rituals.

Re: My Grandfather was a 32nd Degree Mason...and revealed ALL to me...

I posted this in another thread, but I believe it to be thread worthy...Ask away if you want to....

Actually he revealed all to me as he died at 67 in the hospital bed. This is all we discussed for 2 days. he revealed the truth....the truth too simple for all to understand....I know the truth....

The truth is....that only a few Freemason chapters hold the key to this Illumanatti crap...these chapters are hidden within "the whole" of masons...What that means is that freemasonry is compartmentalized within chapters, so one chapter does not really know what the other chapters are doing....

The "illumanatti" type of guys are invited to join the "hidden chapters" where all the weirdo gay, blackmailing, political, international, dealing, ruling goes on.... most of the other chapters in America are agerage losers wanting to be a part of something. All members within chapters are cuttthroat, gossiping, losers fighting for power within the ranks....

The truth is that the "Illumanatti" have hidden their fraternal order within the guise of thousands of other chapters that are nameless, faceless entities, so we can spend eternity looking for answers, and being misdirected by people who think they know what is going on, but dont, directly within the organization itself.....

This should not be confusing....Consider the Illumanatti Freemasons as a secret society within Freemasondry...without Freemasondry even knowing it exists within itself....Simple military diversion tactic....Wrap it in Christian values, build legitimate chapters spreading far and wide, and noone knows what the fuck is going on except the select few with access to the "bat phone"...get it???

This is the truth of Freemasondry, and why NOONe will ever come on here and tell us a thing.....because if you know anything worth knowing, then you realize you are better than us, and we dont deserve to know the "knowledge"....

my grandfather did not believe in the Bible. My grandfather thought Christianity was for fools, My grandfather believed Lucifer to be the bearer of Light. My grandfather thought he knew a "secret" about God, and that everyone else was weak for not knowing the truth.

my grandfather thought the earth has existed through 5 earth cycles, and that ancient man has risen and fallen 5 times, and has achieved space/cosmos travel multiple times, and the earth has cleanses itself numerous times, and cavemen were just the first out the hole after armageddon, each time. he believed that all that is to be learned, has already been taught, and that ALL knowledge is handed down, and not learnt.

Re: My Grandfather was a 32nd Degree Mason...and revealed ALL to me...

The Grand Architect Of The Universe (TGAOTU) designs the plan, and the builders (Masons) manifest the plan into being. Just as Jesus was symbolically called a "carpenter" (builder), so today's builders are called Masons. Building the temple without walls.

Re: My Grandfather was a 32nd Degree Mason...and revealed ALL to me...

I am a 32nd degree mason, and this thread is a joke. The secrets are not who we worship, nor controling the world. Freemasons are the ones who fight for people, and do not promote control. If some one was to worship lucifer they can, but freemasons do not chose, or discriminate who they let in by religion. As long as they will live by morals, honor is huge in freemasonry. You can say what you will, but my guess is your grandfather wasn't a mason. Please I know for a fact. There is more love and less gosip in a lodge then any church I've ever been to. Ignorance is bliss, there are no freemasons in your family. Keep trolling, I know what every single degree is about, and nothing you said is true. I once thought all the crap on the internet was true, and my grandfather is one. I realized my ignorance was making me judge my own grandfather, as a powerfull rich corrupt man. Not true, and I realized by looking at his life and family that there is no evil schemes going on. I've had people tell me that I'm a bad person for being a freemason. Well I haven't worshiped the devil, or Lucifer for that matter. Even so I am not evil, and becoming a freemason has helped me to work on who I am, not manipulate others. The motto to make a good man better. That's absolutely what it's about. A fraternity of brotherly love. All I can say is masons are very different from what I believed them to be. I once had a view like you, and not from a death bed. Your grandfather would've had nothing but good to say about his brothers. I've never met a freemason who was evil, instead they are very loving people who have the best intentions. Not selfish people at all. FACT.

Quoting: Da JuDg3 7983937:

You say Freemasons run by an honor code, but then why are politicians not honorable and corrupt assholes + Freemasons

Re: My Grandfather was a 32nd Degree Mason...and revealed ALL to me...

I cannot debate masons on their organization. But there is 1 fact that is indisputable. They are barely if ever mentioned in the media, whether that be print tv or movies. Why is that? I would not know of their existence if I didnt see the lodges!

Re: My Grandfather was a 32nd Degree Mason...and revealed ALL to me...

My grandad became a mason. The guy was a genius in ww2 he helped develop radar, very clever bloke then he was a headmaster for a number of years but he became a mason in the day's when you had to be asked and I'm assuming he excelled in it cos he was smart, then one day he came out of it and would never speak of it again and if my mum ever brought it up he would just give her a look and tell her we don't speak of it. I always think maybe he rose through the ranks and they asked him to do something satanic like spit on the bible cos he was a moral chap or something but I'll never know.

Re: My Grandfather was a 32nd Degree Mason...and revealed ALL to me...

My grandad became a mason. The guy was a genius in ww2 he helped develop radar, very clever bloke then he was a headmaster for a number of years but he became a mason in the day's when you had to be asked and I'm assuming he excelled in it cos he was smart, then one day he came out of it and would never speak of it again and if my mum ever brought it up he would just give her a look and tell her we don't speak of it. I always think maybe he rose through the ranks and they asked him to do something satanic like spit on the bible cos he was a moral chap or something but I'll never know.

Re: My Grandfather was a 32nd Degree Mason...and revealed ALL to me...

I don't know anything about that organization,but I know my brother is a 32nd degree and has been a member for about 20 years. He used to be a kind loving person who cared about his family,now he is a person who always writes us the nastiest letters and he turned into a psychopath,it seems he hates his entire family and all he thinks about is his money and wealth. I have news for him,he is not taking any of that money with him when he dies. I think he sold his soul.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40017361

Masons are psychopaths. People have to have those kinds of tendencies to join in the first place. They progress up the pyramid based on how psychopathic they already are or are willing to become.

Masons do very bad things for their own pleasure and to progress to the higher levels. Lots of blackmail. They all have dirt on each other. It is their secrets that bind them not any sort of benevolent brotherhood.

Masons become possessed by demons or other malevolent entities through their rituals.

Re: My Grandfather was a 32nd Degree Mason...and revealed ALL to me...

my grandfather thought the earth has existed through 5 earth cycles, and that ancient man has risen and fallen 5 times, and has achieved space/cosmos travel multiple times, and the earth has cleanses itself numerous times, and cavemen were just the first out the hole after armageddon, each time. he believed that all that is to be learned, has already been taught, and that ALL knowledge is handed down, and not learnt.

This part that you wrote, I agree with and remember a very past cycle, before the annanuki toppled the equality, in fact mars went down during that struggle of the various factions.

The super soldiers today resemble what was done then and the factions or splinters.

But the other stuff he believed was not higher knowledge at all.

Lucifer is coded alright, but based off real entities nonetheless, whether they were such or now cop that name, you don't go anywhere by giving allegiance to an entity.

So you avoid traps like that like the plague.

Christianity on the other hand is also coded, what is under the hood is the way back home. However Jesus in the outer as the person, also showed the way back home in how to deal with this material world, by seeing through it and helping others.

So walking away from that, is not really what they do. Its just that they don't awaken via Love and on a good frequency. They're like dark magicians, awakening their pineals and thalamus on low frequencies, of domination, slavery and murder and so they get guided by bad entities.

The scriptures have an outer wrapper for inner directions. That involve meditation, having faith in Goodness, and overcoming ego and material, and beast/or body suit impulses.

Re: My Grandfather was a 32nd Degree Mason...and revealed ALL to me...

my grandfather thought the earth has existed through 5 earth cycles, and that ancient man has risen and fallen 5 times, and has achieved space/cosmos travel multiple times, and the earth has cleanses itself numerous times, and cavemen were just the first out the hole after armageddon, each time. he believed that all that is to be learned, has already been taught, and that ALL knowledge is handed down, and not learnt.

This part that you wrote, I agree with and remember a very past cycle, before the annanuki toppled the equality, in fact mars went down during that struggle of the various factions.

The super soldiers today resemble what was done then and the factions or splinters.

Re: My Grandfather was a 32nd Degree Mason...and revealed ALL to me...

Oh and for the record, my grandfather was also a mason. Not sure what level off the top of my head, but my point is that even though he was one and he was a good man as far as I knew, I still don't believe the masons are at their core a good people. Whether they know it or not, they are operating on the side of darkness. It's that simple.

Re: My Grandfather was a 32nd Degree Mason...and revealed ALL to me...

I posted this in another thread, but I believe it to be thread worthy...Ask away if you want to....

Actually he revealed all to me as he died at 67 in the hospital bed. This is all we discussed for 2 days. he revealed the truth....the truth too simple for all to understand....I know the truth....

The truth is....that only a few Freemason chapters hold the key to this Illumanatti crap...these chapters are hidden within "the whole" of masons...What that means is that freemasonry is compartmentalized within chapters, so one chapter does not really know what the other chapters are doing....

The "illumanatti" type of guys are invited to join the "hidden chapters" where all the weirdo gay, blackmailing, political, international, dealing, ruling goes on.... most of the other chapters in America are agerage losers wanting to be a part of something. All members within chapters are cuttthroat, gossiping, losers fighting for power within the ranks....

The truth is that the "Illumanatti" have hidden their fraternal order within the guise of thousands of other chapters that are nameless, faceless entities, so we can spend eternity looking for answers, and being misdirected by people who think they know what is going on, but dont, directly within the organization itself.....

This should not be confusing....Consider the Illumanatti Freemasons as a secret society within Freemasondry...without Freemasondry even knowing it exists within itself....Simple military diversion tactic....Wrap it in Christian values, build legitimate chapters spreading far and wide, and noone knows what the fuck is going on except the select few with access to the "bat phone"...get it???

This is the truth of Freemasondry, and why NOONe will ever come on here and tell us a thing.....because if you know anything worth knowing, then you realize you are better than us, and we dont deserve to know the "knowledge"....

my grandfather did not believe in the Bible. My grandfather thought Christianity was for fools, My grandfather believed Lucifer to be the bearer of Light. My grandfather thought he knew a "secret" about God, and that everyone else was weak for not knowing the truth.

my grandfather thought the earth has existed through 5 earth cycles, and that ancient man has risen and fallen 5 times, and has achieved space/cosmos travel multiple times, and the earth has cleanses itself numerous times, and cavemen were just the first out the hole after armageddon, each time. he believed that all that is to be learned, has already been taught, and that ALL knowledge is handed down, and not learnt.

my grandfather was a 32nd degree mason.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4318083

Now you know why William Cooper said Freemasonry was the most vile, evil, wickedest thing ever in his opinion. Those words helped to get him killed by the members of law enforcement,who were also members of the Freemasons, who were under direct orders to kill him if they got the chance.