14 Things No One Will Tell Fat Girls… So I Will

Things that I wish I deluded myself with earlier. Things that I’ve learned in online life, where babbling nonsense can never be fact-checked. Things people really need to talk about more, until they start to believe their own bullshit:

Everyone has rolls when they bend over. Everyone.

Yes, it’s true. When women hug their knees they show tummy rolls. ALL OF THEM HAVE TUMMY ROLLS. Of course, some rolls are tiny miniature baguettes that have to be coaxed out with extreme physical contortion and some are sun-bleached whale carcasses that protrude at the slightest exertion. And some rolls are so mighty they undulate even when the woman is standing straight. Not that any of this should make a difference, Judgy McJudgidouche. Everyone is equally sexy to the opposite sex. Except for creepers and nerds.

When people say “you’re gorgeous”, believe them.

Because if you start doubting the sincerity of random strangers who just want to make it through the day without starting fights with hair-trigger, insecure fatties, you’ll get depressed and think about killing yourself. (Protip: Don’t embarrass your family by having your dead body airlifted through a hole in the roof. Do the dirty deed in an empty field, preferably downwind of major population centers.) When well-meaning friends genuinely compliment your looks despite all evidence to the contrary, it’s because they see all of you. I mean, they see ALL of you with assistance from fish-eye lenses. So they know how to tailor their lies accordingly.

“Arm flab is embarrassing.”

No it’s not, go fuck yourself. Arm flab is romantic. Think about all the songs written about boys dying in your arms tonight… from asphyxiation.

That’s true. When a fat woman embraces you with all the inner beauty she can muster, you will be stunned and gasping for breath as your spine cracks. If you start to see a white light at the end of a tunnel, you’re not having a near-death experience; that’s just a flashlight she lost six months ago wedged in her cleavage. I am of the firm belief — much like the firmness with which creationists hold their beliefs — that every person is beautiful (except for the aforementioned creepers and nerds), and so this leaves the inside to be the part that is most telling when it comes to true “beauty”, which I have put in scare quotes because there’s no such thing as beauty, except for the even harder to discern stuff that exists on the inside. Presumably somewhere in the mitochondria?

A guy can pick you up off your feet, and it won’t break his back.

It won’t, I promise! Getting picked up by him won’t cripple anything but perhaps his ego as he struggles to deadlift a weight well above his one rep max.

True story. This just happened to me for the first time in… six years? I’m considerably heavier than I was 6 years ago (like… 70 pounds heavier) and so when I ran up to my friend Eric for a hug and he picked me up with my heels in the air… it left me breathless. I had forgotten that it was possible; I had accepted a life void of being lifted. So exhilarating. Eric didn’t suffer any lasting injuries that I could tell and he walked away pretending to be Ok, before spending the evening alone icing every joint in his body.

You don’t need to exercise every day in order to feel better about yourself.

You could get your dopamine fix with a tub of butterfat, for instance. You don’t owe it to anyone to look good for them, unless you want to be noticed by normal men with functioning libidos.

You’re allowed to fall in love with yourself. I promise.

This will be the scariest thing you will ever do, because there will be some moldy fungus colonies in your belly folds that will be very hard to love. It will also be the most amazing (albeit super delusional) experience you will ever have. It doesn’t make you narcissistic. It doesn’t make you vain. It makes you blind to reality, and that’s liberating in every nuance of the term.

It’s also okay to have days were you don’t love yourself.

It’ll take a long time to reverse the effects of self-hate indoctrination and brainwashing by hanging out on feminist fat-acceptance websites where you can indulge self-love indoctrination and brainwashing. It’s going to take a lot longer than you think to reverse this thinking, because the non-rationalizing part of your brain knows that fatness kills romance dead. So give the media the finger, and move forward into a different media that tells you what you want to hear.

Everyone’s boobs are uneven. If you have a lot of boobs, they might be way uneven.

If you have a lot of boobs. you may want to see a doctor. Superfluous boobs are weird. But if you have just two boobs, and they’re uneven, worry about other things. Unevenness is not as much of a turn-off to men as are hanging sacks of seal blubber pendulously slapping the top of a fupa.

There are people who prefer large ladies. And I mean all sizes of large.

I thought that my best bet in life was to find a partner who accepted my fat. Pause. Give me a minute to hang my melonhead and shake it at myself. Not only are there people who adore “thick” women, but a LOT of them who prefer it. By “people”, I mean loser men with no options. By “LOT”, I mean one or two weirdo fatty fuckers.

Here is what you need to know: you do NOT need to settle for a lover who is “okay” with your body. You have the right (and millions of imaginary opportunities) to find someone who is infatuated with your body. You deserve to be worshiped by a freak fat fetishist who wants to masturbate into your chins, woman!

Fat chicks bang hot guys… ALL. THE. TIME.

If my proof by assertion doesn’t convince you, there’s always Hugh Jackman. And a million indiscriminately horny black men who would bang your back tits in a drunken haze.

“Girls” showed what society thinks about that when Hannah’s character has a weekend romance with an attractive and wealthy doctor. People flipped their shit. It was like seeing a beautiful woman in the arms of a pimply brony with a stutter. It violated too many rules about how the world really works. Never mind that the show is a vehicle for Lena Dunham’s wish fulfillment feminist fantasies, the message to us fatty fats is a positive one, and should remind us that hot guys aka socially awkward rejects will settle for dumping their tepid crippled seed in our distended porcine holes when the couch crease stops looking attractive.

Exceptions prove that the rules don’t apply to US, ladies. Now let’s group hug with our T-rex arms.

Join the revolution. Throw style rules out the window. Wear the tutu. Wear the horizontal stripes. Wear the turquoise skinny jeans (shoe horn included). Wear the see-through blouse. Wear the bikini (sans bridge). Wear the sweat pants. Wear the shirt that says “Does this shirt make me look fat?”. Wear whatever it is that makes you happy, even if that’s the four-person tent tarp. This is your life. And it’s the life of everyone else who will mock the Mariana Trench plumber’s crack of your revolutionary posturing.

You are fucking beautiful.

I’m saying this with a straight face and seriously meaningful look where I maintain eye contact for an uncomfortable amount of time, because these are the immense efforts I need to make to convince myself as well as you of an absurdity that is so transparently false to anyone with the eyes to see. I know you don’t feel like you fit into the category of gorgeous that our world aka immutable biological reality creates. I know that its hard. I know that its a daily battle to adhere to proper grammar. But fuck their fascist beauty standards, replace them with your own fascist beauty standards. The second you stop looking for a skinny model in your funhouse mirror and start looking at YOU… is the second you will start to appreciate the solitary life of the manatee. Stop looking for folds. Stop looking for canyon-sized dimples. You are perfect in the middle of a polar vortex where your layer of insulating fat gives you a survival advantage. You are more than enough for that all-you-can eat brunch buffet. You are the best thing that has ever happened to discarded piano cases doubling as coffins. And you are fucking beautiful to hungry predators looking for immobile prey and an easy week-long meal.

Say it with me, because no one of sound mind will say it with us.

“Thing #1: You’re fucking repulsive to the human eye. Oh shit! How did that get past the hamster editor?”

If indeed she is a rebel, then it’s not really her looks that are the problem. The problem is that, like many off-beat folks, she wants to promote her lifestyle or rebellion to the masses. It is a mistake borne of loneliness. So the first illusion she needs broken is that the world can or should change so that she will feel less alone. It can’t and it shouldn’t.

Those of us who truly walk on the wild side’s only interest in politics and society should be to make it safer for us to be who we are. That’s it. Once our existence is somewhat tolerated so long as we reach a certain class, that should be the end of the battle. Any more and we lose ourselves in trivialities.

Let the sheep graze together in peace, and eat each other in famine and war. Have some sympathy for them, but don’t become overly invested in what they think, much less of each other, since they don’t think much anyway.

The sad part is she seriously thinks that those are all good attributes. Reminds me of Roosh on RoK:

Roosh is an ugly misogynist with massive mommy issues. He created ROK in October 2012 because he has no friends. Currently he is traveling the world to have bad sex with poor girls who want to use him for an American greencard. His little penis is so ineffective at satisfying women that he has had to master the art of cunnilingus. It is absolutely certain that he will die alone in a basement alongside his massive porn collection. Sadly, his right hand is irreversibly deforming into a claw shape from excessive masturbation, causing him sharp pains when he types up one of his offensive rants.

I agree, it was downright traumatizing of CH to link to that article, with such horrific pics. Seeing that purple haired whale felt akin to seeing a small disemboweled animal with yellow jackets feasting on its insides. I need to go shower, and then disinfect my eyes.

What pisses most off about this, not entirely that fat people are pathetic with their self delusion..but the OBVIOUS hypocrisy. If she woke up tomorrow a svelte 115 lbs she’d drop all of this. The feminism, the “ranting” [read: bitchy disposition], the “body positive” photography, the cat worshipping, all friends who are no longer on her “level,” and for sure any type of fat acceptance activism. It would be a non-issue.

Ive frequented the same gym for nearly 4 years and go 4-5x a week so I see and chat with many others. Ive seen it first hand numerous times, early 30s married woman killing it on the elliptical, loses mass weight…like 210 to 130lbs. Really in the groove, leaves husband, starts going to the bars. Drops all the self-validating bullshit.

It’s one of many reasons. Another is that fat people’s personalities seem very problematic to me.

Now if you find an exception, a sweet girl without anger or bitterness, who is healthy and intelligent and just happens to be overweight, that might be a good marriage.

The reason the fat ones dump their husbands when they lose weight is probably that they didn’t want the guy anyway and were just settling. Or even if he was a guy they would want anyway, they told themselves that among all the self-hatred they were going thru.

nothing worse than hearing a fat chic wease, “I’m hungry”. if a person eats right they can go 12-18 hrs without being hungry. its all about getting enough salt protein and fat but for fun when ppl ask abou my eating habits i say the opposite, lots of carbs, no salt, lots of water, no fat low protein and tons of cardio… heh. fuk em

If “fat is beautiful” then why doesn’t Hollywood make one of these cheesy Valentine’s Day movies (which are aimed at the female demo) with an obese lead and NOT be a comedy? How much money would the movie make then?

We all know the answer to that. Truth is that even fat, unattractive women (ESPECIALLY fat, unattractive women) want to live vicariously through hot, beautiful women

In my experience, when a fat girl overcame her weight issue and achieved a level of reasonable attractiveness, it was usually due to my hard work and not theirs. They didn’t drink that 18 of High Life. I did.

> “an emotionally abusive father… Mom is the smartest and most amazing person in the universe…”

So I’m guessing that Dad checked out, and left the family, and she was raised by her single mother?

If that’s true, then I feel some sympathy for her.

> “Oh, and another thing: you have a brain disease.”

It doesn’t take five minutes of working in a modern hospital to realize that the ‘mental health professionals’ [to include the social workers], are, hands down, some of the craziest, most evil, most fucked-up people you will ever meet in your life.

Uniformly, they have both organic mental illness and also a terrifying anti-spiritual and anti-moral darkness within them.

Sending the average at-risk child to the average ‘mental health professional’ is like sending them straight to Satan.

> “Also, remember when Aunt Eileen told you to have sex with as many people as possible before settling down and you thought she was a heathen? Turns out she was right. Follow that advice.”

Her Aunt Eileen told her that BEFORE she turned 16?

Aunt “Carousel” Eileen needs to be lined up against a wall and shot.

> “Y’know that movie The Matrix? It’s pretty dumb, and you’ll never finish it but try and remember the point: reality is relative.”

She at least senses that she isn’t perceiving reality for what it is, even if she doesn’t realize that she’s sensing it.

I wonder whether she’d ever consider swallowing the Red Pill.

> “enjoy Sesame Street while it’s still awesome”

She realizes that someone moved in and took complete control of Sesame Street and destroyed it [even if she doesn’t realize that that someone was The Frankfurt School].

> “”immodesty” is a power control tool created by men, shame is not even slightly useful”

From here it descends into straightforward doctrinaire Frankfurt School special-little-snowflake outcomes-based-edumakashun horseshit and gibberish, as was doubtlessly shoved right down her throat for her entire childhood in the gubmint schoolz and the aKKKademy.

But other than her fucked up family situation and her rote memorizational regurgitation of all that Frankfurt School nonsense, the stuff about The Matrix and Sesame Street gives me some cause for hope.

PS: thwack and Scray should take turns sodomizing Aunt “Carousel” Eileen in the rectum before she’s shot.

Side note: Marie-Antoinette never said “Let them eat cake” as a reply to a servant saying the people didn’t have bread. That comes from a satirical picture in a leftist magazine at the time. (The French “Revolution”, really nobility-jealous Freemason merchants exploiting some years of bad harvests combined with the economic downturn that came from fighting Britain on the seas so Americans could be independent, invented “left” and “right”. Republicans sat to the left of the Speaker, constitutional monarchists à la Britain’s model sat to the right.)

The fact that it is repeated incessantly as if it would be true is just one more example of how leftist media and school teachers stuff kids with a mosaic of lies about their history, which they then repeat unthinkingly as they grow older. By contrast, note that we never hear any of the bloodthirsty statements made by Lenin, or his statement that the “revolution” must be started soon, because the government’s land distribution to the farmers would in a few years make the takeover impossible.

Back in the day, when I was a struggling grad student, and damned near starving to death, I thought about selling my seed for the $$$s.

At least for all of the tiniest fraction of a microsecond second [like maybe an eighth of a Planck’s Constant], until I realized that my own flesh and blood, L’il Zombie Jr, might very well get born to come crazy evil feminazi witch of an anti-mother.

“(Protip: Don’t embarrass your family by having your dead body airlifted through a hole in the roof. Do the dirty deed in an empty field, preferably downwind of major population centers.) ”

I’ve heard the EMT rule is ‘the bigger the patient, the higher the floor’.

Though isn’t the point, really, to embarrass your family and get one more burst of delicious attention? (So look forward to the burial, BBWs. The closed-but-just-barely casket, the crane lowering your piano box into the ground, the delicious pizza scarfed down at the wake …)

While fatness as a social phenomenon is disgusting — for both sexes — who cares?

[CH: My penis.]

Fatties aren’t even on my radar.

[They sound like they’d be surprised to hear that.]

Why even devote time to the specific problem of fat chicks beyond avoiding them — and any thoughts of them?

[Because fat cheerleaders deliver a caustic, soul destroying message that will increase the total amount of ugliness and unhappiness in the world should women reading their lies start to believe them.]

As CH has explained many times, brah, it’s an offense to all of us when 50% of all women aged 19-35 are obese or near obese. It makes less good women available for all of us, and since 80% of men are decent enough in looks and “game” (at least midlevel beta), the female team is failing to uphold its end of the bargain. If 9 out of 10 women were thin, as it should be, then the buying price (in game or beta game/money) would go down, and more decent men would get *some* kind of sex life, which is good for society, since men must do all the substantive work.

Oneitus would decrease too. It should not be the case that one has to be as smooth as you and YaReally, frankly, to get laid by a woman who weighs less than 150 pounds. The way it was in the 1950s is how it is supposed to be.

Women as a whole have failed to be women for the Gen X and Gen Y men. This had led to societal collapse.

The other huge question is what all this whale blubber is gonna do to the very survivability of the species.

On the male side of things, it’s pretty well documented now that sperm counts are falling everywhere that the researchers bother to look.

And it’s not hard to postulate that “overweight” [yeah, they’ve now declared it to be a noun] might disrupt the balance between testosterone and estrogen/progesterone, with very negative consequences for a man’s masculinity.

On the female side of things, I sure wouldn’t wanna be an Attending Obstetrician who was tasked with guiding a poor child to safety through the birth canal of one of these 400lb land yachts.

PS: But some folks have wondered whether we might be gaining all of this weight because the sudden disappearance of sunspots is heralding a new Ice Age.

‘since 80% of men are decent enough in looks and “game” (at least midlevel beta)’

This is garbage. The obesity phenomenon extends to men and women. It affects female looks and male behavior (low T), so it’s disgusting all around. Most dudes are fat, submissive fucks too.

‘Because fat cheerleaders deliver a caustic, soul destroying message that will increase the total amount of ugliness and unhappiness in the world should women reading their lies start to believe them.’

Everyone, deep down knows that being fat is disgusting. Besides, instead of even acknowledging them at all….why not just avoid fucking fatties. Avoid talking about fatties. Let the fatties live in their own world. The ultimate form of fat shaming is actual exclusion from thought and mind. Any shaming, really.

As you should know by now Scray, while men become less attractive when overweight, it doesn’t reduce their attractiveness nearly as much as excess fat in women.

“Why even devote time to the specific problem of fat chicks beyond avoiding them”

Because our revulsion to obesity is used against us. This “Jes” feminist writes stories attacking those who think obesity is disgusting. Schoolkids are taught that they are evil for their natural revulsion to obesity and to sick behaviors. They are not taught how evolution has shaped our instincts for a reason. It is one part of the leftist anti-reality tactic. And so they grow up believing that they are evil, and it is therefore good to write laws that take money and jobs from men and take land from Westerners, the two most evil categories.

We shouldn’t put up with this. We should spread the truth about evolutionary psychology and educate those who would otherwise be made to hate themselves for natural inclinations.

As you should know by now Scray, while men become less attractive when overweight, it doesn’t reduce their attractiveness nearly as much as excess fat in women.

According to what, exactly? When a man becomes fat, his t levels drop dramatically = behaving like a beta = becoming way less attractive.

I agree we should spread the truth. Logic and argumentation are last resorts of the weak. Action spreads truth far better — stop fucking fatties, stop talking to them. In real life, exclude them from any possible source of sexual validation.

I think the idea is that if they get shamed enough, they’ll lose weight.

And sometimes it does work. If you’ve ever checked out the “fatpeoplestories” subreddit, there are a number of people—male and female—on there who say that reading those stories inspired them to lose weight. They even do a “fat2fit friday” every week with photos. It’s rather heartwarming.

But fat-shaming just feels mean to me; I’m not interested in doing it myself. I figure their lives are hard enough without me dog-piling on them.

[CH: The ones who insist on writing missives excusing or rationalizing or glorifying their fatness — or even belittling anti-fat crusaders — will get, and do very much deserve, both barrels of the shivgun. Call it environmental activism.]

Turning it around by talking about “fat shaming”. While feminists like Jes engage in attacks on those with natural instincts, claiming that what we instinctively feel about what we see is a sign that we are evil. That is what’s really going on in the story quoted by CH.

Fat acceptance is poisoning the well, giving women the impression that letting yourself go is perfectly fine and that men will accept you anyway.

But fat shaming works: a Czech colleague who went back home after living in the US for two years, and feeling slim here, got comments from everyone back home because she packed on a few pounds. She also felt like an elephant among all the slim Czech girls. Likewise, when the parents of a Thai girl I used to date visited her for the first time, the first thing her mother said is: ‘damn you’re fat!’. Note that both girls are slim by USA standards.

obesity is still present in europe , you would not believe how fat swedish women have become . but you still can find places where female obesity is rare. due to: 1. in some cultures female obesity is viewed as a disgrace to the family, you might find mothers controlling the food ingestion of their daughters. ive seen this in poland. 2. smaller portions , french women rearely stop themselves from eating, they just eat less. 3. its all about urban planning. more walkable cities. more use of public transport and bikes. denmark its a good example. they drink and they eat all they can, but they burn all the extra calories. 4.active fat shaming. in Eastern europe if a woman gains 12 pounds, relatives will just cringe and scold her. i have seen this even in rural norway. 5. passive fat shaming. no one is screaming to the fatties how fat they are, is just that since obesity is not as common, fatsos get it pretty fast that being 1.5 times heavier than your social circle is not normal and something has to be done about it.

I’m french and I live in Paris, and most of the girls here are pretty slim (I can spent weeks without ever seeing a “fat” person by US standards), and I think it’s mostly due to a combination of things :
– female competition to attract the best men
– everyone walks a lot
– small food portions in restaurant, fast food considered “gross” by most girls, not something normal
– a lot of girls also skip dinner or just eat small things while out drinking after work
– lots of pressure on everyone to never “look like a slob”, even if it”s just to go out to shop for groceries at 10pm. That’s a thing that surprised me in the US : you meet a girl all dolled up in a club on sat night, and then you see her during the week and she’s wearing sweatpants and no make up while out during the day. That’s something unconcievable here

Also, never hear of things like fat-shaming/thin privilege etc. around here, it just doesn’t exist

“- lots of pressure on everyone to never “look like a slob”, even if it”s just to go out to shop for groceries at 10pm.”

Yes!! I love Paris. I felt like there was a cultural imperative, or at least encouragement, for women to be well groomed, dress nicely and be feminine. And women are appreciated for it. In the US we compete with overtanned orangey fake blondes with plastic boobs and tramp stamps, waddling around in sweats and flip flops. It’s truly depressing. I’d rather compete with Parisian women even if it makes dating more difficult. At least it’s some positive reinforcement.

I understand what you mean and adhere to a similar mindset when it comes to the sexual and even social market. Obesity, however, is a major (and growing – zing!) problem in this country which affects all of us.

All of the statistics (not feels) point to it:
-the leading cause of death and acute illness in this country are from 1) heart disease and 3) stroke, both caused by unhealthy personal habits with obesity being at or near the top (I’d guess tobacco use is the lone other competitor for top spot).
-type II diabetes, which is pretty much an accurate joke as the “fat person disease,” has rapidly grown in the past several years; it’s not a coincidence our obesity rate has as well. Look at this link (http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/32/12/2225.full) and see the “Results” section. You might barf.

A few things to consider when reading the above stats:
-70-85% cases of severe overweight/obesity are caused by behavior, not pre-existing illness, disease or similar factor
-the vast, vast majority of health care costs are for treatment, not prevention
-Obamacare, altruistic as it may seem with assistance to those with pre-existing conditions, is a failure for many reasons, one of them is that enables fatties to keep on being fat while punishing the young and healthy Americans who propel this country forward

We are such a PC society now that obesity is no longer frowned upon. For every study and subsequent news story on your evening news, there’s a commercial break for McDonald’s or one with overweight actors/actresses. Barely anyone takes this shit seriously; however, there is a small part of society who gets it and I believe Red Pill men are part of this faction.

This isn’t about being the biggest bully on the schoolyard; it’s about using stronger tactics (ie RealTalk) to motivate when everyone else is too pussy to.

> “Obamacare, altruistic as it may seem with assistance to those with pre-existing conditions, is a failure for many reasons, one of them is that enables fatties to keep on being fat while punishing the young and healthy Americans who propel this country forward”

Karl Marx in his wildest dreams couldn’t have devised a better plan to destroy Western Civilization.

Subsidize the fat and lazy at the expense of the slim and industrious?

Mother-fucker is down in hell guzzling champagne with Satan right now.

Scray, I think even fat girls know that men prefer women with a low body fat percentage, and they know that no amount of fat-empowerment rhetoric will change that. They see what goes on around them in real life. I think they don’t care, and probably just reduce their expectations accordingly.

But consider the attractive thin girl who is appearance conscious ONLY to the extent necessary to land a guy. These are the girls who balloon up after marriage and don’t really understand why their husband would mind. For these women… I think a little fat-empowerment backlash, even if it seems cruel, is a positive thing. Think of it as saving some marriages.

You can see it ahead of time in the wrists and upper arms. I’ve never seen a girl who had extremely feminine thin wrists blow up. Even small 115 lb spinners will show well in advance by the every so faint crease around the wrist. Forever-thin girls have a tiny bony wrist. Dead giveaway.

Just a warning, this isn’t true. I have the tiniest wrists and ankles known to man, but if I wasn’t strict with calories and nutrition I would become a fatty in no time. I have to keep it to 1400 a day if I’m not working out, and I see lots of women who can eat more and stay slim. You can still pack blubber onto a small frame, which is all having small wrists is.

Those girls balloon up because their dude lets himself go. He stops improving himself and he probably becomes a fat, low-T fuck. If a woman thinks she is with a man who has options, all of this shit takes care of itself. She will keep her ass as tight as her age permits.

Man I’m not sure on that one. I have evidence of 3 natural buddies of mine with girls that have put on lbs since the relationship started 3 years (on average) ago.

I’ve scratched my head about it to.

It seems that the common denominators in all three are this:

1) They unconditionally support their girls to lose their weight but in the wrong way. None of the dark shit CH recommended in a past post to lose it.
2) 2 of them have even tried to workout with their GFs in order to encourage their weight loss but in a way that says “We’re both going to do it!”
3) Unwillingness to even express that they are one foot out the door.
4) No checking out other fit chicks or commenting on fit chicks or making fun of fatties around them.
5) They don’t run any of the darker asshole game that would serve as a catalyst for their girls to lose the lbs.

I kid you not, these 3 buddies of mine COULD have other options if they wanted to but they’re not dicks to their girls about it OR they don’t know how to encourage the weight loss in an effective manner.

So, the first half is right (guy with options) but the dude has to actually exercise that reality via game tactics. But then again, these guys are naturals and any of this shit is not for them nor would they want to be assholes about it.

ya, like I say, once she knows you can’t leave, she can let herself go and if you complain then YOU’RE the bad guy lol. Even if logically it would be better for her health, happiness, sex life, relationship, and her longevity as a mother for your children…you’re the asshole because you want her to not poison herself with garbage food lol it’s insane.

Once you sign a legally binding contract that makes it impossible for you to leave without massive consequence, you are actively choosing to give up the one powerful hand you have as a man in negotiations with your girl: the ability to leave her.

Very simple: their girls KNOW they won’t leave. If they had told them to lose weight or they’re bailing and/or actually walked out and went out with another (thinner) girl, they’d have tried their damnedest to keep the weight off.

It’s not just about HAVING options, it’s about the guy being willing to EXERCISE those options. 3 years in, these guys aren’t willing to exercise their options and the girls know it…if he stayed with her when she was 25lbs overweight, he’ll stay when she’s 50lbs overweight and then instead of losing the weight to show him that she even remotely cares about his wants/needs in the relationship, she’ll instead try to get preggers and/or marry him so that he’s further “locked in set” (lol) and she can balloon up to 300lbs safely.

It’s okay to make someone feel bad if it’s for their own good ultimately. You don’t just hand your kid cookies for dinner every night because he waaaaaants them and you don’t want to make him unhaaaaappy. You say “no fuckin cookies yo, have an apple”. He might put up a fuss but he’ll learn to like apples lol

Right now I’m the chubbiest I’ve ever been and none of it is muscle lol. But I’ve banged 2 new girls since New Years and one is a solid 8 (hired gun) that wants to hook up again this weekend. I’m finding it difficult to convince myself to bother going to the gym because I’m still getting results…hell I ate a bag of potato chips for breakfast lol

But if suddenly I couldn’t get laid or only ugly chicks would bang me and the hot girls all exercised their options and were like “no pussy till you lose 20lbs” I’d be hittin the gym daily. Because they don’t exercise those options (and they totally could, I’m in a very pretty rich city right now where a lot of the guys are studly and 6-packed), my brain says “eh fuck it, good enough!”

Human beings generally only do as much as we need to, unless the attribute is a important/pleasurable to them or relevant to their goals. ie – a guy in an indie band might barely make enough money to get by but he’s amazing on a guitar. A guy who values money might work 100hr weeks but be fat and not have any guitar skill because it’s not important to his goals. A hot chick might be a complete ditzy moron because she doesn’t HAVE to be smart…same time she might go get a degree in rocket science because she values challenging herself. 99% of the guys at the gym are there because they aren’t getting the pussy they want and they’ve been socially conditioned to believe if they lose another 0.4% bodyfat that’s when they’ll finally get the girl, so in their mind hitting the gym is relevant to their goal.

It’s as hard for the CEO to convince himself he needs to invest time/energy learning to play the guitar, as it is for the hot bimbo who has the world wrapped around her finger to convince herself she needs to be smart, as it is for me with an 8 blowing me to convince myself I need to hit the gym lol

I’ll probably work out more this year cause I don’t want to be a slobby old guy at the bar and the higher sex-drive would be fun, but it’ll be an uphill battle as long as hot girls keep letting me get away with it, just like your buddies with their fat GFs lol

i understand where you’re at, but the truth is that you’ll feel mentally much better if you start working out again and stop eating shit! plus, as you pointed out above, your sex drive will increase, maybe tenfold. i went through the same thing last year (working way too much) and since i’ve gotten fit and started eating better i feel like a new man

Ya, I don’t eat a ton of garbage compared to when I was younger, but my portions are too big and contain too many carbs/starch and sex is literally my only exercise all week long. I’ve noticed that I’m pretty sluggish throughout the day. I’ll probably take up some crossfit shit to get overall in shape and build up my cardio, ’cause overall athleticism is going to benefit me more during sex than just lifting weights.

Never work out with your girl. Never. I see Facebook buddies of mine doing this. Couples yoga classes, lol. TBH, I did “couples exercising” years ago with an ex. Never again. Might as well put on an apron and cook muffins with your wife. Couples workouts are castrative experiences that turn you into their girlfriend, not their man.

My current primary is pretty damn thin, and I wouldn’t mind if her ass and thighs wer a little thicker. To get the point across I’ll playfully throw her on the bed and scold her with a smile that she needs more squats to make her ass bigger because it will look hotter when I fuck her.

I know it sounds raw, but if my girl was getting chubs, I’d probably pat her stomach and with a smile say “what the hell is this, lol?”. Any protest, I’d say “how do you expect me to fuck you like that?” or “Well, I’ve already put in my order for another girlfriend.” You have to be quick and really direct about the problem, and it can’t come off upset. Has to come off like she’s being ridiculous.

Dude, we know you’re doing the positive attitude thing, and that’s good, but you’re almost like a feminist. Not every single thing is the man’s fault. It’s just not. Women are fucked up, selfish creatures. On this topic, yes, the vast majority of them, even the cute ones who are getting by on their youth and what God gave them–for now–do not exercise much, don’t exercise right, don’t eat right, don’t worry (even though looks are their only thing that matters) as much, percentagewise, as men who actually try to get to the gym and think about what they eat. Not everything is the man’s failure to be alpha enough when women act and fail as they do.

Even YaReally lets this opinion (a low one) of women come through sometimes. Look at this beast who is the subject of CH’s post. You think its the fault of some ex BF of hers who didn’t “save” her by being alpha enough? No–she’s a fuck up and a full on 35% of today’s women younger than 35 are like her.

The exercise thing really gets me. I’m Gen X — 38 years old. We had Reagan’s “presidential fitness” program in the 1980s. It worked. I’ve been doing pullups and pushups since I was 8 years old. I’m not “catty” (whatever the word is for men). I give credit where it’s due to other men (and you disagree) when, for example, I note that 80% of men are just as good as me. In everything. Looks, body, successful career, alpha enough (greater beta). And I’m pretty badass. But I think 80% of men are just as good as me. Yet my claim is that only 40% of women our age are good enough. So there are not enough good women to go around.

Not everything is because of men’s failure to be alpha enough.

Now, ON A SOCIETYWIDE LEVEL, yes, our entire society is “beta” (the boomer generation that let this happen) by letting it get to a place where this beast has a blog and gets featured on MSM.

Which one of us is more negative? In one light, it’s you. You think every single thing, including 100% fails by women, is men’s fault.

Look, either women have complete agency (which I’m fine with), in which case ya your opinion is spot-on — it’s their fault, and anyone who is in a relationship with a woman who refuses to unfat herself should leave. If he’s married, he should at least cheat and refuse to touch the woman.

Or, women are these creatures who have NO self-control AT ALL when it comes to their emotions, in which case, maybe it’s not their fault and you have to cater to their emotions — i.e. be alpha and cause tingles — to motivate them. Pick one.

I note that 80% of men are just as good as me. In everything. Looks, body, successful career, alpha enough (greater beta). And I’m pretty badass. But I think 80% of men are just as good as me

this “note” is demonstrably false. 3/4 of men in the US are overweight or obese, so scratch the body (and the T). Most men do not have a successful career, so scratch that. Most men lack anything resembling game and coast on what their looks/physicality gains them — this last one is anecdotal.

You think every single thing, including 100% fails by women, is men’s fault.

lol I never said that. However, it stands to reason that a lot of the men who complain about their fat ass wives are also themselves fat, beta (or becoming beta), and stuck in a work rut.

And it works both ways. Yareally said above that he doesn’t feel the need to lose weight or get to the gym because the girls around him don’t exercise whatever other options they have. It’s the same in reverse. Men and women are still the same species, dudes.

To add to the obesity epidemic, it does have a lasting effect really. Beyond the unaesthetics…increased obesity causes numerous medical complications which will likewise inflate (ZING!) medical insurance premiums and crowd hospitals, demand for medication will skyrocket increasing costs…”disability” and lack of able-bodied (fat people can’t do the same work as fit folk of course) ‘Mericans available will be slim pickens(get it?) ultimately hitting the labor force. There is absolutely nothing good about a society that is fat and sluggish.

Unfortunately these unfavorables have turned natural selection on its head and are polluting the gene pool further with fat as hell kids.

A lot of the manosphere discourse on female obesity is shaming through hilarity such as this post and ROK’s Fat Shaming Week. All are entertaining and RealTalk ways to shiv the fat arm (get it?) of feminism.

I do, however, believe more discussion should be had about the economic impact obesity and poor health habits have and will have on all of us. It’s not just fat women; there are fat men as cause. And they create fat children.

I never advocated doing nothing. I advocated dropping any arguments against fatness and just committing ourselves to avoiding them. You want to perpetrate beauty? Only fuck beauty. Seems like the only 100% method.

When you snag a thin woman, let her know behind closed doors that her thinness is a huge factor in her attractiveness to you. Emphasize it.

The problem with this, and the only reason I can see a point in shaming, is that the absence of sex from betas who have a hard core aversion to fatness, will not really be missed.

I’m not sure if you can imagine what it is like to be what some guys call a natural alpha male. The naturals are more like alpha by necessity. I have met a few of them in my lifetime. The ones who were not related to me had sex drives so high that it made me respect to a much higher degree, my dad’s strength of character.

Imagine a guy as stoned as stoned gets…five joints in succession stoned, plus a few beers…what some would call crunk. You’d think this guy would not be thinking about a vagina, but no…this guy goes on to basically shag a girl for 10 hours straight, sleep for two hours, and then pound her for another four. Then he goes to class, meets another girl and gives her two hours, but only stops because she has to go to work. Every day he has to go through two or three women and shag for half the day to feel somewhat okay.

Same guy has such a high pain tolerance that he basically doesn’t feel any. Something in his brain says when some part of him has been damaged, but it doesn’t really register as unpleasant so much as inconvenient. So when he’s not shagging or in class or buying weed, he’s in the mountains somewhere.

Dude has had women jumping on his cock since he could first get a consistent erection.

These are beasts who may as well be another species apart from normal guys…and let’s just say that they are only maybe 10% of any given population. They can realistically each service a harem of 10-20 women regularly so long as he keeps them bitches and not girlfriends, plus the one nighters. So no matter what your uber-alpha friends may look like in public or tell you, they would hit that fat girl. The monster in your pants in Pikachu to their Godzilla.

The only tool of intimidation the average guy has really, is to make an impact on the woman’s social status. Not shagging would not do the job because if you won’t, Mr. Godzilla will when he has the time.

‘is that the absence of sex from betas who have a hard core aversion to fatness, will not really be missed.’

Betas are the largest piece of the fatty-fucker pie, tho. So when these women get it, they are most likely getting it from betas —- no matter how ‘hawt’ they say he was. Alphas pump and dump thin, plainer looking chicks — e.g. that Duke chick. She was maybe not the best looking, but she was thin.

I’m not saying the natural alphas of the type you mentioned don’t exist, but I definitely don’t think their proportion is 10%. Way, way, way, way lower.

You might think that because you don’t know how much natural alphas get around, and what their early sexual experiences were like. Most of them cut their teeth on fat and/or older women, so there remains a sort of soft spot for them, regardless of what they tell other men.

Pay attention to what’s going on at a straight male oriented pub or sports bar during the hours most people are already very drunk. Ask an alpha friend if you can walk a mile in his internet shoes on a dating site. Look at the women who are jonesing for another dose, and on his favorites whose profiles are basically inactive because they are getting enough.

Alphas have options, and they use them. Whatever you see them walking around with in public has very little to do with who they’re willing to do in the dark, and for some of the more old school, who they are willing to marry. They categorize women more strictly than others, at least in my observation.

In a time when women are delaying marriage, and even plain girls without strong father figures believe they have the luxury of riding the carousel for too long, alphas are servicing whoever. It doesn’t matter if you restrict yourself. They are not restricting themselves, and they are covering more ground than you could on meth.

So even if you’re not going to go as far as picking on the fat, stating that this is the reason why you’re rejecting someone may do her and yourself some good. For men, passive aggression makes you look weak, whereas decisive honesty makes you look strong. Women regret more being passive aggressively rejected or dumped than they do being told the truth because the truth means at least they can still respect you as a man.

She may tell you or herself that your rejection doesn’t matter because she still has Mr. Yeah, who is most likely much hotter in male terms than you, but the fact that you said it out loud means she can’t kid herself that you are less of a man.

Despite what feminists claim, they’re hardly the victims in this. Society has always tried to maintain a degree of politeness and “don’t-be-a-dick” mentality when it comes to fat people. Doesn’t mean you’ll never catch flak over it, but politeness is already more than any person deserves, fat or not.

Fat shaming isn’t so much mindless bashing as it is a response to fat acceptance and all the lies that come with it. Being fat is just as attractive, just as healthy, just as worthwhile etc. No, not really.

Yes. I do. That’s why I avoid fat chicks.
The whole reason I started this shit was to avoid having to settle.

I actually have no clue how dudes who have legitimately fucked hot girls can downgrade back to fucking a fatty or a plain girl. I know that when shit finally ends with the two I still have….I’m gonna be fucked. Like, being with them has radically altered my self-perception.

It’s quite possible I will have to endure another 3 or 4 month spell to get myself tight enough to land an even hotter, better girl.

And like Ya said in some earlier post….girls are mostly 90:10. So if you’re looking for an LTR, and you’re like me where you want a relatively chaste but INTERESTING and relatively inexperienced but willing to let you show them a lot of shit kind of girl….well lol….good fucking luck, Chuck.

It’s fine tho. I can do it. I did it once to upgrade already, and I could/can do it again if necessary. So……ya tl;dr — shutting up and not fucking fatties is easier than you think.

They can do it because what beauty is, is universal. What beauty is more or less socially convenient is cultural. Then there are personal fetishes.

An example that is brought out a lot here is African American males’ willingness to shag and even commit to anything European, no matter how ugly it is. If she has that one feature that could remotely be viewed as feminine (pale skin), that is enough for someone who has been programmed to believe that this one feature is what makes someone beautiful or not. For some others, it is thinness. For others it’s large breasts.

What may be an upgrade for you is a downgrade or compromise for the sake of social standards for someone else.

What can we do to bring CH’s message to decisionmakers who can change things? Women are too stupid to get it, but I’m talking about the betas who allowed control of society’s mores (and law) to get to this point. Have we lost? What can we do?

CH, you think all is lost, so you just recommend gaming hot chicks and sitting poolside until the collapse?

What is maddening to me is, now that I have been on POF, okcupid, and match (off and on) for the past 9 months, I now know exactly how the women “think.” All of them–the thin, pretty ones too. They are *seriously* far away from understanding the reality that is discussed here. They are wrong about every single thing. It’s disheartening to have been able to peer into the mind of a modern Gen X woman. Wow just wow. I’m sure they were just as childish and pathetic in 1940 and 1970, but my grandfather and father didn’t have to know it. I honestly think the online dating websites, allowing women to write their profiles, is one of the worst things that has happened due to the internet. My grandmother is a woman, too, and what my grandfather did was discipline and scold her as needed. She was a woman–did her woman things. He was a man. As it should be. Now CH is trying to teach the new generation what used to be natural. In short: men and women should not be friends. Women are for making babies and taking care of the home. Men are for working, providing, and protecting.

OKcupid gets it extra wrong. Not only is it dominated by its feminist creators (of course), but even it’s algorithm is wrong in that it ignores the reality that “opposites attract.” It gives a 90% match vs 90% “enemy” exactly backwards. Women are not supposed to agree with men on things, but they must submit and be controlled by law and social mores (e.g., women should be shamed for being single after age 27). Our entire society is waaaaaaaay fucked up now. Is there hope?

At some point between 1920 and 1975, betas allowed the feminists to win. Women got the right to vote and it’s been a downward spiral since. No fault divorce started it, and now we have outright AGGRESSIVE promotion of evil in every form. It is gut wrenching to go to the front page of cnn.com now. Nothing but promotion of faggotry and this “fat shaming” bullshit. The losers can do no wrong.

What can we do? In the end, power had to be given to the women–by betas. We have communism/socialism, already. We have jews in government sending sniveling emails about creating traffic jams on purpose for political reasons.

Answer: a Marriage Market crisis. Welfare can’t go on forever, its collapse and the whole system is in sight. Blogger Dalrock notes the start of panic among family court and the stirrings of tepid reform, various mainstream figures like Kay Hymowitz and the like bemoaning a lack of “good men” to wife up those sluts!

IF a woman wants a kid, and wants her daughter to not end up as a stripper and candidate for murdered prostitute dumped on the side of the road, or her son becoming a jailbird, she’ll need a husband. At age 30+ with a big N count and fatness and crummy attitude, she’s a bad bet for any guy she finds sexy and able to provide (due to collapse of the Welfare state).

Thus, panic. Probably some form of polygamy (thanks, gays!) but it gets worse for women. Gays and Lesbos love teens, so lowering the age of consent is a big deal for them and the next big thing. Already a number of lesbos are in jail for child molesting (this just in, parents of 14 year old daughters don’t like 18 year old lesbos molesting them). So age of consent lowered to gay-friendly levels: 13 or 14, means Alpha guys like Paul Walker and lower variants can have a 16 year old instead of a washed up fattie 32 year old. And even a plain but athletic 16 year old beats a beauty at 32.

Hence the stirrings of panic among women who can see the waterfall ahead. Its been smooth sailing down the Niagra so far, but that bump is a doozy. Add in realistic 3-D porn and sexbots and the like and beta male substituting that for a BBW slut with tats is pretty much a given.

The betas are so hard up (and good) that they will still marry them. The 35 year old women still get married as long as they are thin. Even though they gave themselves for free to the alphas from age 19-35 when they were younger, tighter, and hotter.

The marriage strike is not actually happening. Dicks still need to get wet. Externalities problem.

I’ve known two women personally (one neighbor and one violin teacher to my kids back in the day) who got obese (and I mean large) and then divorced their husbands who had lost interest in them.

Both had two kids, both in their thirties, both large… in their defense, they had pleasant faces that hadn’t acquired that disgusting porcine aura, and nice hair… and fair personalities, so long as you didn’t cross ’em too hard.

Yet within a year, both were married again.

Hell, the larger of the two didn’t even have the ink dry on the divorce paper.

I mean, damn, a 30 something man knocking off a quick piece, if she’s got a cute face and puts her best one forward in a bubbly, please-my-man sort of way… this I can understand.

Someone who answers questions *the way you want* is a match, someone who answers them *the way you do* a friend. I can always tell a domme because her friend percentage with me is higher than her match percentage. (Begin jokes…)

So a traditionalist who says he prefers the dominant role and is looking for a woman who prefers the submissive role will have a high match percentage with that woman. OKC’s actually pretty good for finding what you want…of course, the old SMV rules still apply with regards to actually getting it. 😉

Push the chair back from the table, walk away from the God-damned computer, and get out in the real world.

Meet real live breathing perspiring hungering chicks in the flesh and blood.

In broad daylight.

It’s called DAY GAME.

Hit on every chick at work, or, if you’re still a student, on every chick in your departmental major [which means that if you’re a business major, then you’re hitting on all 500 of the chicks that you see every day in the B-School].

Hit on every chick that you see at the gym, or at the pool, or at the rock climbing wall, or wherever the hell you go for your cardio/strength training.

Hit on chicks standing in line at the airport, standing in line at the movie theaters, standing in line at the DMV for your license renewal, standing in line at the Post Office, EVERYWHERE YOU GO.

You are not a True Alpha until you can walk up to every single chick in the grocery store and start hitting on her.

Until you lose that sense of trepidation – that anxiety, that fear of humiliation, that whatever the hell it is – and just go straight up to her and start shooting off your mouth, then you are not a True Alpha.

As long as you still “care” – about what your Mom and Dad might think, about whether the bitch might be your Sister’s roommate whom you never got around to meeting, about whether she might actually be the daughter of that algebra teacher back in high school whom you hated so much – whatever the hell it is, you have GOT TO STOP CARING.

And if she says, “Fuck off, creep!”, then you immediately retort with, “Here, in public, where everyone can see us? Maybe we should go in the back room where we would have some privacy? Although there are folks who like to watch. Not that there’s anything wrong with that…”

#15 If all else fails, tats will make up for your lack of attention to attractiveness basics.

Can’t swallow your grrl pride long enough to keep a food and exercise log for once in your life, and face the truth about your diet? Dye your hair a shade suited for Kool Aid and pollute your skin with ink. (No attractive man wants a woman with boring clear skin.) An alternative look is what makes you interesting to desirable men. They’ll love your nose ring so much they won’t care about your body shape or your catty attitude. And it wouldn’t hurt to make friends with semi-homeless guys who hang around the coffeeshop by the public park all day and drink too much PBR. He’s always wanted to hang with them.

Ironically, obesity is increasing faster among men than among women right now. It would seem that despite rampant fat apologism, women are at least dimly conscious that rotundness makes it more difficult to get a man, but men are less likely to care. FWIW, I have driven my own weight down from “overweight” to “normal” (BMI classification) because of an otherwise minor medical condition but which could in theory kill me or cost me plenty if I become obese, and my sex drive is just fine.

Sure they do. As does despair: Why stay in shape when it doesn’t seem there’s anybody around worth staying in shape for? Might as play WoW, and gorge on pizza and Mountain Dew.

I’m just exchanging some Roosevelt RealTalk with you: If you’re going to fight the good fight, you might as well fight it on both fronts.

It’s true that a man’s weight isn’t anywhere near as important to his SMV as it is to a woman’s. But that doesn’t mean that his health isn’t affected, or his sense of self-worth, or his sex drive. How many women, do you think, are out there rewarding Onesie-Pajama Cocoa Boy and his ilk with sex because all the otherwise virile males are sitting at home behind their keyboards, spilling Cheeto dust into their cavernous bellybuttons? You can’t lay ALL of this on the fat chicks. Sooner or later, everyone has to take responsibility for themselves.

Western men are getting fat because they’re eating the same crap the women are. No big mysteries there. People make up all sorts of excuses and theories to get away from the simple reality that they either don’t have access to or don’t have information about how to eat real food.

I’ve just started dating a girl who has 20-25 lbs extra weight. I’m not turned on by it, especially in the longer term. Most of the fat is feminine, Butt, hips, medium boobs. But the turn off for me is the stomach.

Its gross, and the more I look at even plump girls with a flatter tummy, I get become envious she didn’t have that flatness. God damn, especially when my girl sits down, rolls of stomach fat pile up. She can be so mushy looking.

I’ll admit, she looks best naked. Standing upright. No clothing pinching anything back, but it can be way better like I said. 20-25 lbs less.

So I often mention to her I work out, swim, bike and now she Is starting to notice SHE is NOT doing any of that. She has admitted by her own mouth, she is not keeping up with me. And I’ve heard her tell me how much she likes me after I’m done plowing her. If shes smart, she’ll start dropping weight, Or I’ll have to have the “Drop the hammer” fat talk. / Creatively Shaming bad behavior

She’s one of those girls unfortunately who loves baking, and eating too much. I appreciate the enthusiasm for being in a kitchen, but to flip out over how many cakes you can bake and eat is…. scary. Famous Chilling words from her mouth after I asked her if she wanted to eat at an event.. “Ohh yeah!, I’ll never turn down food” Ehhhh… riiiight. Alarm bells.

Fat shaming is usually just going to backfire, she’ll sic the hens on you. If I were you? Commandment II, young Jedi. Find a somewhat more in shape girl and let your gf see you flirt with her. If that doesn’t work either, I’d say I was stuck, and toss her in the casual not committed bin and see what else is out there. Good luck bro.

A friend of mine, a right hard bastard, gave the “Drop the Hammer” talk to a fatty he was banging. She was probably 40 lbs over optimal, had a gorgeous face and was genuinely sweet, but OMFG, she was like a pear on legs. He told her straight up, you wanna cocksa, you eat less pasta. She lost the weight, and within a year was stone cold.

They’ve been married ~22 years now. She’s still stone cold, and a real sweet girl and a good mother to their kids. He’s still a right hard bastard. It worked out alright for them. Your actual mileage may vary.

My dearly beloved is a food network addict type, but in shape. Most such women don’t go paleo but they tend to go veggie/vegan, and then get their kicks from hot sauces and spices instead of gratuitous sugars and fats. (She puts tabasco on salsa, I sh!t you not.) It makes her one of those women who ask the waiter lots of questions in the restaurant, but I deal. We’re both resisting the prevailing culture in how we eat. I say we start a meme that sugary cracker/cake/chip foods are for children, grownups eat low glycemic.

you like the fat woman I can be the fat woman for you. I am a good woman not Moscow trash. we can eat the bags of cheese together in tv couch watch American TV. you like you like. I can tell. You dont need thin Moscow slut.

Don’t want to put myself forward as a freak that masterbates into chin creases but some women do look better heavier. Jessica Simpson & Jennifer love Hewitt are two public figures that come to mind.

Also an ex from university had the most beautiful face I have ever seen, even to this day, she used to be in shape but after meeting recently she had put on about 30lbs. But none of it was on her face, she was literally as pretty as she was 15 years ago, almost no signs of aging. She must have good genes or something.

Don’t take the realtalk to extremes. I don’t think anybody here has a problem with a man liking whatever he likes, and some men do prefer a bit more poundage than others. Some women do manage to be both big and pretty, but fitting that description myself and looking around at my similarly aged and even younger peers, this is the exception, not the rule.

The ones who are pretty despite their higher weight are the ones who take the best care of ourselves that we can despite a higher weight. Some of us got caught up in the conventional dieting with energy problems situation, but still have enough hold on reality even in that to be mindful of calorie intake and exercise. We’re still doing things that are good for us and pleasing to our men or the kind of men we want, and don’t fall into the trap of giving up on ourselves or becoming bad caricatures, and then demanding people love us for our worst selves. Regardless of weight, we’re striving to be our best selves.

It’s not that they’re asking people simply to accept fatness as a fact of life or something. There’s this whole ugliness profile…a combination of conscious stupidity and ugliness that we are just supposed to overlook or worse, celebrate. Aesthetics be damned, you’re supposed to clap while we make ourselves look like circus freaks, but never mention that we look like circus freaks.

Personally, the existence of overkill fat acceptance makes me want to continue to lose weight more than any fat shaming though. I don’t want to look like the sheep.

The ones who are pretty despite their higher weight are the ones who take the best care of ourselves that we can despite a higher weight.
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“Buffy the Body” (AKA Buffy the Booty Model) was on top of the game in the 90s when she saw the wall approaching and decided to do something about it. She rebranded herself as a fitness guru for big girls and she appears to be doing quite well with it.

what do people consider too fat though? If a girl is an endomorph and is in decent shape she will have still have some weight but will have teddies and ass to match. I don’t believe that this type should be included in fattie hell because they are in line with their natural being and not some gluttonous hog.

The vast majority of men would screw that girl.
—the male sex drive will screw 80% of chicks out there, it’s all about where on the totem pole we place them. She’s a 3-4 drinks-and-if-nothing-else-is-cooking girl for guys, and we’ll only stick around for a second bang if she’s wild in bed.

But we ain’t gonna be around longer than the night, that’s for sure. FB on call at best for a ll but the Scalzi crowd/

Have to agree… and I do admit as she stands now, she’s at the very top edge of acceptability… for me, anyways… I don’t mind ’em a bit thick, so long as they still look like women and have the chest to back up the hips, and no pear shape.

Any tats or smoking, that’s a deal breaker, I don’t care what she looks like.

she’s fat. look at her wrists and forearms and compare them to her upper arms. not as bad as the fattybakerwhale in the original post, but remember that this girl is posing in such a way and wearing clothes that are masking her fatness to an extent.

because even though it’s a ‘plus model mag’, everyone knows the truth – looks matter. so they still try to make the fat models look as good as possible.

this girl would be smoking if she lost weight and got some muscle tone.

Having personally known a female plus-sized model for a few years, I can say this: they often have extremely attractive faces—more so than the average model (who is using her body to model clothing for gay men)–to make up for their bodies.

But their bodies are sad. When my plus-sized model friend loses weight, she becomes damn near voluptuous and very close to fuckable. However, even then she’s a 3-drinks-and-if-nothing’s-around kind of screw—and I won’t be calling her in the morning. When she’s her normal plumpiness, it’s a 5-drink-and-if-i’m-lonely kind of screw.

Bear in mind this girl has “modelled” on the national morning television shows, E! network shows, and in ads in major magazines. In other words, she is a very successful “model.”

And yet she’s still very low on the totem pole. And would go lower if she had known bad oral skills (according to her shorter-than-her manager dweeb bf, she’s a hoover in bed). And note, ladies, how I called her a friend—I’ve never been hard up enough to go in for the kill.

Remember that ladies when someone tells you that you have a pretty face. That means squat in terms of getting you an alpha. I would pass her by for a 22-year-old plain faced, poorly dressed, but in-shape college chick 8 days a week.

But plump women do have the potential for big teddies and nice thick ass.

I feel sorry for thick girls with small tits and no shape to their ass. That’s supposed to be your redeeming trait. It’s like that ugly skinny glasses wearing kid in school that looked like an uber smart nerd but was dumb as rock.

Why does she need those diaper-sized panties? I bet they drag the belly rolls of fat down there. The panties are conveniently colored black to hide the contours.

“Plus-sized model”. Fat model. “Plus-sized” is one of those ridiculous no-standards-allowed media propaganda words we should recognize and remove from our own language. Anyone is “plus-sized” compared to the size below yours, so it means nothing. Fat model. She is fat.

Note how she can only be sexy by appearing to have a flat stomach. The fat being hidden in the black diapers. So far from proving that “fat women can be sexy too” it proves the opposite – she can only be sexy by removing the most disgusting part of fatness, the belly.

This is science. We have a strong desire for a certain hip-to-waist ratio because it signals good child-bearing capability. Remove that ratio and the woman is not attractive. This is not a subjective matter but an objective one. We have to struggle to survive in a world with harsh laws of physics, and those laws are not subjective, so the instincts we develop to combat them are not subjective either

Do I need to say this? I think CH readers know this reasoning already. But it doesn’t hurt to repeat the realtalk to set things straight once in a while. Sometimes the debate becomes wobbly, like a fat woman’s jowls.

So far from proving that “fat women can be sexy too” it proves the opposite – she can only be sexy by removing the most disgusting part of fatness, the belly.
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OK, but like I said before, at the end of the day, it all comes down to launching that football. You forget that back in the day, life was hard and many women would get sacked for a loss, fumble, or throw multiple interceptions, get hurt in practice…

Yeah this girl has a few extra pounds, but I bet she is good for a long march, thirty years war, trail of tears, drought, famine, hordes of locusts, all kinds of biblical issues…

I think you are demonstrating a subtle difference in our respective native habitats, thwack.
Africa seems to reward more sturdy built women, and with good reason, while our women spent all day in the frigid north huddled in caves or dug out houses becoming more neurotic by the century.
Life was rough in both locations, but the strategies were different which resulted differently.

Only you and i have good round body for real woman. you are beautiful almost even if you have the swarthy skin and dark around the eyes. we can eat the cheese together and become the even more beautiful.

They’re bitching just for the sake of bitching. They know the truth. What’s the truth?

ALL non-journalistic photographs are Photoshopped. There are NO exceptions. It doesn’t matter how beautiful or perfect the model is in person: She WILL be Photoshopped.

Her skin tone will be evened out; shadows will be removed from below her eyes and cheekbones (this accounts for Cameron’s “fuller face” in the picture referenced); wrinkles will be removed from her clothing; if she’s bending forward or backward in an extreme way, the teeny-tiny skin rolls that result will be smoothed; scars and tattoos will be cloned away. The baby-fine peachfuzz that appears on their arms will disappear. (Oh, and are you ready for the SHOCKER? Male models are heavily Photoshopped as well.)

No, it’s not “natural” or “real.” They’re not in the business of selling reality. They’re selling dreams.

If every girl worked hard to stay thin we wouldn’t know which ones would instantly balloon upon placing the ring on their finger. Letting fatties become fat is a sort of pre marriage screening. It weeds them out and reveals who has at least a somewhat safe body type to invest in, who has work ethic to stay fit, and who is not so prone to spontaneous inflation.

Imagine if your wife deceived you before marriage the entire time then nearly exploded from instant expansion upon saying the ‘I do!”.

Arabs don’t like fat women. Africans don’t either. But they have a lot of fat women around, so they have to live with that. But visit the night clubs in Bahrain, where the Saudi elite go, driving across the bridge in their black limousines to visit a country with less fanatical laws, and the women who dance on stage are all fit. Either Arab women, often from Egypt, or women from poor East European countries, but they have to be fit.

Look up “bellydancing” on YouTube and you will see that most of the dancers, from Egypt and Turkey (the two main centers for bellydancing), are also fit.

Uhh, yeah, no… Go talk a little stroll around Dubai and go to some venues there. There are Eastern Euro / Russian women as far as the eye can see dancing and providing uhh, “other services”, the the well connected.. The universal law of white women being peak value is not unbroken in the UAE, or anywhere else on this little blue world for that matter.

Since you brought up Arabs and Africans with money, I would like to point out a major difference in the fat situation between them and American men. Add Russian guys on the Arab and African side too.

The difference is that Americans expect girls to just be remarkably beautiful without investing anything in that. Arabs, Africans, and Russians will clean a woman up to their liking. They’ll date or marry (or essentially buy) a girl who has what they like in behavior and raw looks, and then pay to have the adjustments made as needed.

This side of the world, people are a bit more realistic, and don’t expect or demand that women have things like self discipline and foresight. They just do what needs to be done.

Before it was part of the insurance, my ex offered to pay for weight loss surgery and a tummy tuck for me, but then I went natural, and it wasn’t necessary. Even though he didn’t mind, he knew that it was a problem for me, so he was about solving it, not cursing my lack of male psychology.

cool, that you guys brought that up.I dont think they put up with unless they are from the rich upper class whom actually have more western influence and as result have a slim western taste in women. The typical ones actually do like bigger girls.Its the standard of beauty there. You can google the obeity map and CIa world factbook it. Not only does it rival american obesity but female obeisty is twice as high as male obeiisty. Which is very different from us westerners where men are slighty fatter then the women.

You can see that the miss morroccos,miss tunisa or miss algerias for example are much more westernized then their typical countrymen. Slim bodys, actually going in revealing pagents and those women are significant minorities.
Mark Zolo was in Egypt he did confirm that there are a ton of fatties. The middle easterns that prefer the slim girls are the central Asians (turks kazkh uzbek etc), persians,pakistanis,indians and the Berbers. But its growing in their land and they are the ones putting up with it(there women are mouthy as hell). Think in Bahrain for example they deliver MCd which will explain alot. Plus lotta women gain weight during ramadan.

Id have to go with “Jay in DC” on this. Being part middle eastern, they dont like seeing theri women do belly dancing(its kinda tabooish in egypt). But the russian girls are the biggest prizes, they come for.

Sometimes I wish the Russians would have carried out their plan to explode a specially-designed nuclear device in the air above the U.S., creating an electronic pulse that would disrupt the power grid for months or years. Very quickly people would have to shed all beliefs that don’t actually help society. The blubberati would be silenced and forced to engage in physical labor. It would be worth it.

I think men are adapting to the larger heifers around these days. Tons of guys have fat fetishes. I think there was a reddit ama with some guy from a porn company, and he said bbw porn was one of the fastest growing sectors.

[CH: If by “adapting” you mean “morosely settling” then yeah, you may be onto something.]

Why is it that it’s always the fattest cunts that have the loudest mouths? I can’t wait in line for coffee in the morning without getting caught in earshot of some warbling wildebeest in a sweatpant-suit spewing hamster-babble from her eldritch facehole. Usually towing a squad of ugly kids behind her egregiously shaped ass too. Ah well, where’s my pills…

I don’t even bother to get angry when I see things like thus anymore. I’ve already accepted that men are trash or in the case little boys. It’s a shame that I can’t find women attractive. in today,s society being a straight woman is curse. Oh and to all of you about to type some comment about me being fat can’t you come up with a more original come back? I mean seriously yawn. If you’re going to insult mr at least be creative. Put some effort into hurting my feelings even if I don’t care what you say. Amuse me at least. I love reading interesting things.

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This is so ridiculous. I cannot believe that someone would take their time to write something so demeaning to all people. Please go read the real article and ignore this person, who clearly has no sensitivity to other human beings. You are wrong and I just wanted to make sure everyone knew that.