People have the capacity to show balls, and in this case it's not a gender exclusive remark. "Hero" never really enters into it. It's just how they're wired, or were raised.

bingethinker:Is this where we pretend this one decent, honest guy makes up for all the lying criminals wearing police uniforms all over the planet?

Because it's only this "one" decent guy, amirite? Everyone else in uniform is a thug. Look, man, I know a ton of cops (am not a cop myself nor would I want to be) who just wanted a steady job with benefits and a pension. I likely have more reason than many Farkers to b*tch about corrupt or just douchey cops, but I also don't assume that every black kid is a criminal because I was carjacked by one.

The blind hate for cops on this site really gets on my nerves sometimes. I'm not white-knighting them; I'm talking about the common sense of not extrapolating certain awful news stories to an entire segment of people.

log_jammin:Frederick: dickfreckle: "The blind hate for cops on this site really gets on my nerves sometimes. I'm not white-knighting them..."

IMO the cop-hate and white-knighting on this site are fairly even. Which is probably representative among society.

except that here "white knighting" means not shouting "pig" at every single story involving a cop.

Maybe. I'm one of the libbiest libtards who ever libbed, and I'm pro-cop. Getting flamed every time I say something about cops which isn't filled with hate and vitriol gets a bit tiresome. Sometimes I'll cloak my respect in sarcasm, like in the story about the Chicago cop running into a burning building. But most of the time I'll avoid posting, like the story about the CHP officer and the bridge jumper.

bingethinker:Is this where we pretend this one decent, honest guy makes up for all the lying criminals wearing police uniforms all over the planet?

The fact that he happened to be a cop is irrelevant to the story or his heroism. He put his life at risk to save others; he could be a baby seal clubbing, excessive coupon-using, Nickelback-listening, three-letter-scrabbling, Tea Partier for all I care.

miss diminutive:bingethinker: Is this where we pretend this one decent, honest guy makes up for all the lying criminals wearing police uniforms all over the planet?

The fact that he happened to be a cop is irrelevant to the story or his heroism. He put his life at risk to save others; he could be a baby seal clubbing, excessive coupon-using, Nickelback-listening, three-letter-scrabbling, Tea Partier for all I care.

He writes checks at the grocery. In fact, he doesn't even get his checkbook out until the cashier scans everything and announces the total. Obviously, he hasn't written the recipient, or the date, on the check in advance.

Hats off to this man. Meanwhile, where I'm at, a fireman died of smoke and soot inhalation last week at a bar that mysteriously went up in smoke. While wearing a mask. Either way, hats off to the men who would risk their lives for other people and their possessions.

miss diminutive:bingethinker: Is this where we pretend this one decent, honest guy makes up for all the lying criminals wearing police uniforms all over the planet?

The fact that he happened to be a cop is

should be irrelevant to the story or his heroism. He put his life at risk to save others; he could be a baby seal clubbing, excessive coupon-using, Nickelback-listening, three-letter-scrabbling, Tea Partier for all I care.

This is subtle propaganda on the part of the publication (and fark headline writer) -pro law enforcement. If it had been a tow truck driver would the hero's occupation had been in the headline? I doubt it.

Because I recognize the propaganda I dont mind it too much -the cops could use some good publicity. But the purposeful use can be influential.

Frederick:This is subtle propaganda on the part of the publication (and fark headline writer) -pro law enforcement. If it had been a tow truck driver would the hero's occupation had been in the headline? I doubt it.

I love this.

Because a hypothetical situation, that exists only in your mind, doesn't play out the same as a real situation, then the real situation must be "propaganda".

Frederick:miss diminutive: bingethinker: Is this where we pretend this one decent, honest guy makes up for all the lying criminals wearing police uniforms all over the planet?

The fact that he happened to be a cop is should be irrelevant to the story or his heroism. He put his life at risk to save others; he could be a baby seal clubbing, excessive coupon-using, Nickelback-listening, three-letter-scrabbling, Tea Partier for all I care.

This is subtle propaganda on the part of the publication (and fark headline writer) -pro law enforcement. If it had been a tow truck driver would the hero's occupation had been in the headline? I doubt it.

Because I recognize the propaganda I dont mind it too much -the cops could use some good publicity. But the purposeful use can be influential.

Why not just go the extra step and say this was a false flag operation by the police department? Maybe you can wake some of us sheeple.

That piggy! I'm sure he didn't have legal cause to enter the premises. Plus, I'm sure he's going to use all the stuff he found illegally to throw them in jail. And all those 'burns' and 'smoke inhalation' - cop talk for lighter burns and tear gas!

J. Frank Parnell:Questionable whether either would help, but chances of getting shot or beaten are pretty low with hippies.

It's amazing how quickly we forget our history. We can start with the Manson Family and then move on to the other extreme number of serial killers throughout the 60's and 70's if you like. The "Hippie" era was among the most violent periods of our nation's history. And the "hippies" were doing the killing.

log_jammin:Frederick: This is subtle propaganda on the part of the publication (and fark headline writer) -pro law enforcement. If it had been a tow truck driver would the hero's occupation had been in the headline? I doubt it.

I love this.

Because a hypothetical situation, that exists only in your mind, doesn't play out the same as a real situation, then the real situation must be "propaganda".

Bane of Broone:Why not just go the extra step and say this was a false flag operation by the police department? Maybe you can wake some of us sheeple.

Perhaps neither of you understand the meaning of propaganda. Sounds like you automatically assume it means something negative. You have been influenced by too much Alex Jones. As miss diminutive pointed out "The fact that he happened to be a cop is irrelevant to the story ". Yet that fact is in the headline. My opinion is that suggests propaganda.

Frederick:Perhaps neither of you understand the meaning of propaganda. Sounds like you automatically assume it means something negative. You have been influenced by too much Alex Jones. As miss diminutive pointed out "The fact that he happened to be a cop is irrelevant to the story ". Yet that fact is in the headline. My opinion is that suggests propaganda.

Pro cell phone propaganda, or pro Amish farmer propaganda? You be the judge.

1) you havent answered: Why do you think that irrelevant fact is in the headline?2) I concluded nothing. I specifically said "I doubt it."3) If you dont understand why Cell phones and Amish are relevant to each other then I think we have discovered the root of the problem.

Maybe you should drive:Frederick: Perhaps neither of you understand the meaning of propaganda. Sounds like you automatically assume it means something negative. You have been influenced by too much Alex Jones. As miss diminutive pointed out "The fact that he happened to be a cop is irrelevant to the story ". Yet that fact is in the headline. My opinion is that suggests propaganda.

Adding "cop" to a story always enhances its readability.

"Man found guilty of choking hooker" is an interesting story.

"Cop found guilty of choking hooker" is an irresistible story.

FYI: for those paying attention. This is a perfectly reasonably explanation. Essentially sensation. Quite possible.

log_jammin:I do understand why. just trying to figure out why one headline id propaganda and the other one isn't.

I think "propaganda" is a poor choice of words because it means the medium is trying to influence the readers opinion regarding an issue. "Sensationalism" is a much better choice of words. I don't think the media are trying to influence what readers think of cops. I doubt they care. They are trying to gain and retain readers.

shanrick:If you think cops are pigs, next time you need help, try calling a hippie.

Actually a hippie helped me shen no one else including the cops would so f--k off, thanks.

/hippie was my ex//who also physically protected me when the cops didn't give a f--k about my stalker since he hadn't "done anything yet"///we broke up for decent reasons but he'll always have a place in my heart for that reason

Maybe you should drive:I think "propaganda" is a poor choice of words because it means the medium is trying to influence the readers opinion regarding an issue. "Sensationalism" is a much better choice of words. I don't think the media are trying to influence what readers think of cops. I doubt they care. They are trying to gain and retain readers.

bingethinker:Is this where we pretend this one decent, honest guy makes up for all the lying criminals wearing police uniforms all over the planet?

The majority of police officers that I've encountered are just fine. Don't be a complete jackass when they're trying to do their job and you shouldn't have any issues. However, I can see how your attitude can cause you problems. For example, I'm not even a cop and I want to taser you right now.

Maybe you should drive:J. Frank Parnell: Questionable whether either would help, but chances of getting shot or beaten are pretty low with hippies.

It's amazing how quickly we forget our history. We can start with the Manson Family and then move on to the other extreme number of serial killers throughout the 60's and 70's if you like. The "Hippie" era was among the most violent periods of our nation's history. And the "hippies" were doing the killing.

Really? Really? You got some statistics on that, or are you just jealous you never got to be a hippie, because you were so incredibly uncool?

ghare:Really? Really? You got some statistics on that, or are you just jealous you never got to be a hippie, because you were so incredibly uncool?

I am jealous because I never got to be a hippie and was incredibly uncool.

I was incorrect and hippies never hurt anyone and the idea that they might have done so was the product people who are jealous that they never got to be part of the free love movement. The whole Charles Manson thing was blown out of proportion. There has never been a lower crime rate in our history than 1966-1973. Ever.

Why argue with you when we both know what your endgame is going to be?