Well, having been there tonight, I have to say, I can't complain about an eleven goal game, except for the outcome. Wings stated like s***e, probably shouldn't have gotten a point. Glad they did tho. Vibe in the Verizon was that ovie was due. Sure enough. Bastard. Lots of wing chants. Good time!
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Question adressed to Kenny was regarding the Nyquist, why it took 2-3 months to call him up? He responded; this us the men league, kids aren't the answer.

I guess that we can agree that Nyquist should have started the season in Detroit...

You clearly did not listen to the interview. As was mentioned, the comment was directed towards a question regarding Jurco. It was discussed at length at the time the interview was given. We all know why Nyquist did not start the season in Detroit. It's old news. Move on to something else.

do you understand the concept of consistency? Because that's what the refs were severely lacking. Put the whistles away for the end of regulation and make a weak call that leads to a 4 on 3 of all things in OT, arguably the best situation for a team to be in. And for those of you saying "we'll the wings should be playing a 60 minute game and it's their fault", as a fan realizing we're not the dominant team we used to be it's horrendous and borderline not worth the aggravation of watching the refs largely influence the outcome of games with inconsistent calls. The Wings play is irrelevant to that fact.

Yeah, like when Nyquist clearly interfered with Ovechkin and there was no call.

I don't quite get this post. Are you saying you think there was nothing Washington did that was let go? If so I wonder what game you were watching. Regardless your post is referring to the exact inconsistency I was talking about it. I hate it when it goes either way. And make up calls shouldn't be a thing either.

I don't quite get this post. Are you saying you think there was nothing Washington did that was let go? If so I wonder what game you were watching. Regardless your post is referring to the exact inconsistency I was talking about it. I hate it when it goes either way. And make up calls shouldn't be a thing either.

Of course there was. Are you saying nothing Detroit did was let go? Of course there was. It happens in EVERY SINGLE NHL GAME. Officials miss calls they should make, make calls they shouldn't, don't see certain things, see things that didn't really happen....Just like the fans do. They don't get to sit in front of the tv and watch replays in slo mo. They have to make split second calls in a game that moves fast. It has always been and always will be. It isn't an anti-Red Wing conspiracy, it isn't Bettman's fault, it isn't Crosby or Ovechkin's fault.

Of course there was. Are you saying nothing Detroit did was let go? Of course there was. It happens in EVERY SINGLE NHL GAME. Officials miss calls they should make, make calls they shouldn't, don't see certain things, see things that didn't really happen....Just like the fans do. They don't get to sit in front of the tv and watch replays in slo mo. They have to make split second calls in a game that moves fast. It has always been and always will be. It isn't an anti-Red Wing conspiracy, it isn't Bettman's fault, it isn't Crosby or Ovechkin's fault.

Of course there was. Are you saying nothing Detroit did was let go? Of course there was. It happens in EVERY SINGLE NHL GAME. Officials miss calls they should make, make calls they shouldn't, don't see certain things, see things that didn't really happen....Just like the fans do. They don't get to sit in front of the tv and watch replays in slo mo. They have to make split second calls in a game that moves fast. It has always been and always will be. It isn't an anti-Red Wing conspiracy, it isn't Bettman's fault, it isn't Crosby or Ovechkin's fault.

I don't remember saying there was an anti wings conspiracy, in fact I'm pretty sure I said I hate inconsistency both ways. My point was that they were clearly letting things go until suddenly they weren't, but that suddenly happened to be in OT causing a 4 on 3. The timing was stupid. I didn't say they missed calls because it was a fast game , I said they were intentionally not calling things and letting the players play. And the fact that it happens every game does not justify it, it's exactly my problem with it because it makes hockey aggravating to watch.

I don't remember saying there was an anti wings conspiracy, in fact I'm pretty sure I said I hate inconsistency both ways. My point was that they were clearly letting things go until suddenly they weren't, but that suddenly happened to be in OT causing a 4 on 3. The timing was stupid. I didn't say they missed calls because it was a fast game , I said they were intentionally not calling things and letting the players play. And the fact that it happens every game does not justify it, it's exactly my problem with it because it makes hockey aggravating to watch.

Its your assumption that they were "clearly letting things go", not what actually happened. I don't know of any sport where the fans say, "Hey, our sport has great officials and always make the right call!" It does not happen, because fans are inherently biased and because you have human beings making judgement calls.

If they weren't letting things go, which is something I encourage because I enjoy seeing the players just play, then they were simply bad officials even along NHL standards. However I think it's a fair assumption to say the refs put the whistles away sometimes.

The refs didn't cost the Wings this game. Defensive zone turnovers and poor d-zone play cost the Wings this game.

Helm needs to forget that hot streak he went on when he first came back and start playing the simple north-south game that got him here instead of trying to be a scoring line center. Even when he's playing on a scoring line.

That #4 spot on D is their major Achilles heel. Quincey, Smith, and Kindl just aren't getting it done for various reasons.

The refs didn't cost the Wings this game. Defensive zone turnovers and poor d-zone play cost the Wings this game.

Helm needs to forget that hot streak he went on when he first came back and start playing the simple north-south game that got him here instead of trying to be a scoring line center. Even when he's playing on a scoring line.

That #4 spot on D is their major Achilles heel. Quincey, Smith, and Kindl just aren't getting it done for various reasons.

Helm doesn't look up to speed at all. Olympic break will be good for him I think. Hopefully he can practice hard and work on his conditioning, right now he looks dead-tired everytime he's been on the ice 30+ seconds. Still makes quite a lot of good things happen but isn't on the level of where he's normally at.

Helm doesn't look up to speed at all. Olympic break will be good for him I think. Hopefully he can practice hard and work on his conditioning, right now he looks dead-tired everytime he's been on the ice 30+ seconds. Still makes quite a lot of good things happen but isn't on the level of where he's normally at.

Has he even gotten a breakaway since he returned? I noticed that he didn't look good lately too, he also seemed to lose that scoring touch he magically got earlier this year.