Lincoln did not start the war. The rebs did. The secessionists were nothing more than glorified outlaws.

That is a bogus, political leftist-liberal-revisionist view of the South, as the South had more dignified statesmen and military leaders than the North ever had!!! They were anything BUT glorified outlaws!!!

The more I see how Obooombi socialist-fascist-communist usurper is taking down our nation day by day, the more I kind of wish the "secessionists" had prevailed 150 yrs ago or so.

We may end with our own version of "secession" if Obooombi continues to destroy & decimate our formerly great USA (or as Oboooombi thinks of it as the USSA)

Typical Freeper Bs...You know sometimes I really do feel we should of let these losers go, they are nothing more than a bunch of whine babies who are too stupid and are always more than happy to vote against their own good.

Yes, you would be right about who did and didn't start the Civil War if you didn't dismiss it as some kind of "liberal-esque propaganda".

Granted the Confederacy, like what Lucilius said, did have very good, experienced officers in their military. They also had a very distinct and unique culture, but it was a culture that included and endorsed the inhumane institution of slavery.

Socialist, fascist, and communist are completely different and are incompatible to one another.

By the way, the United States of America never recognized the Confederate States of America, and neither did any other country in the world at that time.

In conclusion, I leave these last two sayings I have heard numerous times in my life:

And when are you stupid rednecks ever going to give up the idea that the South will somehow rise again? It ain't ever going to happen. But really, though, if they wanted to, I'd let Alabama secede only if all the right-wing bible thumpers in the country would move there and make it their glorified Christian theocracy they so desperately crave.

At this point in modern history, I'd be glad if the NeoCon bigots & fundies would seceed from the rest of the USA. Gather them up in a big chunk of the deep South, create Jeebusland & let the rest of the good ol' US of A continue to exist in the truly All-American, Progressive, Secular Government, Melting-Pot, E Pluribus Unum Way....without these idiots puting a moneywrench in "The Great Experiment".

I don't see why this is in RSTDT, apart from the "Obooombi" bit. But folks conjure up names like "Dubya", "The Shrub", "Raygun", "Slick Willie"....