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Marco Rubio (FAQ, amnesty, immigration)

Summary (posts follow):

Marco Rubio is a U.S. senator from Florida and a strong supporter of immigration reform, aka legalizing illegal aliens, aka amnesty. In the beginning of 2012 he crafted his own plan to legalize younger illegal aliens, and at the end of 2012 and beginning of 2013 he began working with other politicians to craft a much broader amnesty.

The links after this summary have often extensive discussions of how his immigration plans won't work and will do great harm. Here are some questions and answers about his immigration stance:

Q. What can I do to help block Rubio's plan?A. Help me discredit him. Help me discredit or try to turn any leader who supports his plan. See what I do in many of my tweets ( @24AheadDotCom_ ) and help out or do something similar. It's not difficult at all to search Twitter for those remaining few people who support Rubio, and then try to change their minds. In the case of leaders, try to use their support for Rubio to turn their followers against them. Occasionally CC one or two of his workers (list here) so they hear footsteps.

Q. Is Rubio's plan "amnesty"?A. Yes and no. It's "amnesty" as used in the broad sense that most people use it: to mean a massive legalization program. This page and other posts here use "amnesty" in order to avoid typing "a massive legalization program for illegal aliens" over and over. However, in the formal context or when dealing with Rubio supporters, it's best not to use that term. See reform not amnesty. And, whenever you see Marco Rubio denying his plan is amnesty, recall this video of John McCain doing the same thing.

Q. Would Rubio's immigration plan harm the GOP?A. Yes: it would create millions more new Democrat voters than Republican voters. See #6 here for more.

Q. Are there any downsides to legalizing young illegal aliens as Rubio wants to do?A. That plan has several huge downsides, such as depriving struggling Americans of college. See DREAM Act (the same dynamic applies no matter the details of a specific plan).

Q. Are there better alternatives for the GOP than Rubio's plan?A. Immigration is one of the areas where the Democratic Party is weakest and what they want to do is least popular. Any Democrat who supports the anti-American DREAM Act could and should be discredited. Rather than discrediting people like Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Dick Durbin, Rubio came up with his own variation on that anti-American bill.

Q. Are there better alternatives for the GOP than Rubio's plan?A. Definitely: see attrition.

At the 11/10/15 GOP debate, Marco Rubio said, to wild applause, "I don't know why we have stigmatized vocational education. Welders make more money than philosophers. We need more welders and less philosophers." Transcript at [1], video below.

Anti-Americanism undergirds a good part of the support for comprehensive immigration reform (aka amnesty). For an example, see all those who've used the talking point jobs Americans wont do. Sometimes they're open about it.

From this:
Several conservative activists and tea party group leaders are meeting with Sen. Marco Rubio Tuesday afternoon to discuss immigration reform, including a list of what they support – and don’t.
In a draft of their seven principles, obtained by POLITICO, the groups make no calls for a ban on “amnesty” – a longtime rallying cry of conservatives grassroots groups.

Yesterday, Florida senator Marco Rubio tried yet again to mislead, this time by engaging in what's called around here the deportations false choice (see that link for an explanation of that misleading tactic).

On the video below, Marco Rubio pretends that - if the Department of Homeland Security doesn't secure the border as promised under amnesty - states will be allowed to step in.
Hasn't he heard of Arizona?
The Democrats and others have fought tooth and nail for years to prevent states from enforcing immigration laws.
Does anyone in their right mind think they wouldn't do the same this time?

Here are excerpts of an email from the Tea Party "Patriots". Why their group and their new PAC is bogus will be discussed below:
Dear Patriot,
My name is Jenny Beth Martin. I helped found Tea Party Patriots... ...Please become a charter supporter of the new Tea Party Patriots Citizens Fund PAC...
...Through the Tea Party Patriots Citizens Fund we are going to beat big-government Republicans in primaries and Obama-loving Democrats in the general election.

The AFL CIO and the US Chamber of Commerce have reached agreement on three principles for a guest worker program; see that link for the details and what you can do about it is here.
Now, from peekURL.com/zjeYAHA :

From this:
A new battle has flared inside the Republican Party in recent days as supporters of more-liberal immigration laws wage a behind-the-scenes campaign to discredit the influential advocacy groups that have long powered the GOP's hard-line stance on the issue.

James Pethokoukis of the American Enterprise Institute doesn't want you to see how he's wrong about immigration.
A few days ago, Pethokoukis offered "Is Rubio really about to ruin the Republican Party?" ( peekURL.com/zCrSvv4 ). A comment I left on that post pointing out he's wrong never appeared. Rather than keep you in suspense, here's what Pethokoukis doesn't want you to see [1]:

On the Rush Limbaugh show earlier today, Marco Rubio discussed the Gang of Eight Senate amnesty plan and made this delusional claim:
"People always say to me, 'aren't you worried about the political implications [of amnesty]'?

Radio host Mark Levin is potentially a supporter of Marco Rubio's plan to legalize millions of illegal aliens. You need to help make sure that Levin opposes amnesty.
The audio below is from an interview Levin did with Rubio on January 23, 2012. After several minutes of Rubio saying nothing new regarding his amnesty plan, Levin finally chimes in around the 8 minute mark:

This post will maintain a list of those supposed conservative thought leaders (major pundits, media figures, organization heads, etc.) who support the form of comprehensive immigration reform (aka amnesty) proposed by Marco Rubio.

This post will maintain a list of those supposed conservative bloggers who support some form of comprehensive immigration reform (aka amnesty), specifically the amnesty proposed by Marco Rubio. This post doesn't list GOP politicians or pundits, just bloggers and other low-level members of the GOP establishment.

In a January 18, 2013 press release, Marco Rubio lists some of the supposed conservatives who support his immigration amnesty plan ( peekURL.com/zycdzeU ).
To be balanced, here are some positive mentions of his plan (or at least support for his actions on comprehensive immigration reform) from those Rubio should be opposing on immigration: the Democrats and the far-left.

Florida senator Marco Rubio recently described the outlines of his amnesty plan that would legalize millions of illegal aliens. As previously discussed, Rubio is either delusional, or he's trying to deceive. If you think his plan has any validity, make sure and see that link.

On his Facebook page, Rep. Paul Ryan writes [1]:
Senator Rubio is exactly right on the need to fix our broken immigration system. I support the principles he's outlined: modernization of our immigration laws; stronger security to curb illegal immigration; and respect for the rule of law in addressing the complex challenge of the undocumented population. Our future depends on an immigration system that works.

Marco Rubio continues selling out both the GOP and the U.S. with his plans for comprehensive immigration reform (aka amnesty). See his name's link for his past efforts that have harmed the U.S. and for a discussion of why his immigration ideas won't work.

Tea Parties darling and GOP savior Marco Rubio frequently sounds just like a Democrat politician when discussing immigration.
That includes smearing the majority of Republicans, those who oppose illegal immigration and amnesty.

The video below shows the SEIU-linked group "Stand Up Florida" ("SUF") [1] engaging in dumb behavior during a Marco Rubio speech at the GOP Convention [2]. Five protesters from that group stand up and start shouting assertions, which Rubio deftly handles.

From this:
(Paul Ryan), who voted against the Obama-backed DREAM Act and has opposed amnesty for most illegal immigrants, said he supported - but hadn't endorsed - the immigration reform efforts of Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL).

This is all just hearsay, but it would be interesting if it turns out to be true [1]:
Mitt Romney last week told a private group of potential supporters and business and media elites, including Rupert Murdoch, that he was treading carefully around the issue of immigration to avoid looking like a "flip-flopper."

Is Mitt Romney dumb, corrupt, or some combination of the two? Whatever it is, Romney is dumb and/or corrupt enough to come close to caving on the anti-American DREAM Act.
If Romney were smart and not corrupt, he'd oppose anti-American bills like the DREAM Act; see the link for how that bill would harm Americans, something you won't hear from the establishment media.

From this:
Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.), the only Senate Republican of Hispanic heritage and a possible vice presidential pick, is working on an alternative version of the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants who came to the country at a young age and serve in the military or attend college...

On the surface, the story of an illegal alien Florida honor student who was going to be deported but who now has a two year reprieve (link) sounds like a heartwarming tale; good luck finding anyone in the media not presenting it as such.

Thought experiment: let's say that a Tea Parties group from a heavily-Norwegian-American area of Minnesota had an opponent named Black. Let's say that the Teaparties group came out with a campaign called "We Aren't Black". How do you think the entire political and media class would respond to that?

On May 7th, Marco Rubio was asked by Jason Mattera whether he would have voted for Arizona's new immigration law. He stated (humanevents.com/article.php?id=36858):
"The second one that passed hit the right note. Yes."
Now, he's changed his tune and on Spanish-language TV (link):
"The law, how it is now, do you support it, yes or no?" Maria Elvira Salazar asked on Mega TV's Maria Elvira Live.
"I don't support states taking this into their own hands," Rubio replied. "I think this needs to be dealt with at the federal level. What I support is the change they made to the law, because that...

David Brooks has an extremely fantastic view of the tea party movement (link):
The tea party movement is a large, fractious confederation of Americans who are defined by what they are against. They are against the concentrated power of the educated class. They believe big government, big business, big media and the affluent professionals are merging to form self-serving oligarchy - with bloated government, unsustainable deficits, high taxes and intrusive regulation...
Over the course of this year, the tea party movement will probably be transformed. Right now, it is an amateurish movement...