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not difficult at all,my friend.
if they are on a rather good level,they wont get thrashed last week.
goh is a great player,said that long time ago,but no suitable partner for him.
the serve of lim appear more than his flash of brilliant in most of the match.
he need some counseling on this matter,just like chan peng soon~

Yes, most that are close to bam, knows Goh is a good player with no good partners. They tried to pair koo and Goh in Thomas cup once but no good came out.

Lim is good at mid court but has a bad serve, so Goh has to serve and setup the play, it's kind of weird.

Lim is exceptional when it come to mid court and intercept but he lost as many points as he won it.

i don`t think there is any other left handed front court player in the top 20 pairs, is there

Did you forget about mathias boe ? His netting skills are awfully awesome. But he rarely dominate the front court. And he's a lefty too.

About the taunting, you guys are overeact. Taunting in your own turf is probably the only advantage that you have in your arsenal.

I say the umpire might been ask why he would let such thing happen, but honestly, nobody can deny the excitement that they gave to the spectators. We all did cheer upon that too.

I wish this pair could go further while they still can. The only thing concerns me is that will BAM favors them into big tourneys again ? They have prooved they wont against the same opponent that beat their ' big brother ' in the 1st round.

Lastly, I still think Goh V Shem should find a better partner. But not sure if such partner exist in BAM's pool.

let's forget who started first, but i think the umpire should warn both of them about their taunting act.

Luckily it happened in their home ground. If they do outside, not so sure what is gonna to happen.

why the umpire should warn both of them? its not like they were insulting each other or making body contact. they were just show body gestures to boost the heat of game like Goh did in game 1 when he keep smashing and the shuttle goes long at the back of the court by CB/HW. Goh made a signal with his hand as showing "bring it on, keep lifting, i can smash it, i have amazing stamina, we not like our two big brother you kicked in the first round". fans are just overreacting about this matter, it was just four young boys enjoying a badminton with crazy crowd support. being a sporting umpire, edy rufianto is always a professional umpire that suit to md and ms match. he loves the game and enjoyed it, you can see he just smiled when both pairs lifted their hands at the game point and the end of game 1. the four boys were still under control and were just playing with the crowd. no point to spoil the party by giving a card or warn if all going well. i know he absolutely understand when to do that.

why the umpire should warn both of them? its not like they were insulting each other or making body contact. they were just show body gestures to boost the heat of game like Goh did in game 1 when he keep smashing and the shuttle goes long at the back of the court by CB/HW. Goh made a signal with his hand as showing "bring it on, keep lifting, i can smash it, i have amazing stamina, we not like our two big brother you kicked in the first round". fans are just overreacting about this matter, it was just four young boys enjoying a badminton with crazy crowd support. being a sporting umpire, edy rufianto is always a professional umpire that suit to md and ms match. he loves the game and enjoyed it, you can see he just smiled when both pairs lifted their hands at the game point and the end of game 1. the four boys were still under control and were just playing with the crowd. no point to spoil the party by giving a card or warn if all going well. i know he absolutely understand when to do that.

Agreed. Umpire should only warn if the opponent doesn't like the taunting. Other than that I think it's just overreacting.

why the umpire should warn both of them? its not like they were insulting each other or making body contact. they were just show body gestures to boost the heat of game like Goh did in game 1 when he keep smashing and the shuttle goes long at the back of the court by CB/HW. Goh made a signal with his hand as showing "bring it on, keep lifting, i can smash it, i have amazing stamina, we not like our two big brother you kicked in the first round". fans are just overreacting about this matter, it was just four young boys enjoying a badminton with crazy crowd support. being a sporting umpire, edy rufianto is always a professional umpire that suit to md and ms match. he loves the game and enjoyed it, you can see he just smiled when both pairs lifted their hands at the game point and the end of game 1. the four boys were still under control and were just playing with the crowd. no point to spoil the party by giving a card or warn if all going well. i know he absolutely understand when to do that.

Owh .... okey .... just not so sure about the rules in terms of taunting/mocking to your opponents (i never see players taunting each other before this, not in the higher level).

Then i should agree with you and M3Series about we just overreacting in this issue.

Badminton is too much of a gentleman's sport and rather dull... (quoted in part)

I beg to differ

Wild gesticulations, in-your-face aggression and taunting are NOT what make badminton lively. It's the pace, the power, the skills, the quick thinking, the deft touches, the twists and turns...

Cricket too is an out-and-out gentleman's sport.
But no one would term it 'dull' (even when the Australians aren't sledging).
In fact, any deviant behaviour is met with the comment "that's just not cricket".

I'm not advocating that everyone walk around in abject politeness and gallantry.
A bright fire in your eyes and visible aggression in your play are good enough for most occasions.

Originally Posted by hellboy84

errr .... is it legal to do such action?...
let's forget who started first, but i think the umpire should warn both of them about their taunting act... (quoted in part)

IMHO, the umpire did a poor job of controlling the proceedings.
He should have intervened right away to warn against taunting.

Players have been warned for much less (shaking one's fist at the opponent, finger-wagging, etc). However, do note that shouts and gestures NOT directed at the opponent (or at anyone else) are totally within the rules.

Originally Posted by visor

Then there's some ppl like nokh88 thinking that badminton is too gentlemanly and needs some edginess.

But yes, staring down and shouting at your opponent after winning a point (like Boe/Mo and Lim is in my books an unnecessary behavior that I don't want any young or old player to emulate at all.

This victorious MAS pair deserves praise for beating first the 'notorious' DEN BoMo combo and went on to win the title to bring so much joy to the home crowd.

It would have been better if they did not get so worked up and taunt their opponents although it would appear from reports here that CHN started first. I thought GVS was the main culprit and I hope he will change for the better.

In any case, congrats to them and hope they will bring more joy to MAS fans.

At the Indian Badminton League, Goh V Shem was the quintessential gentleman all through the tournament.
Perhaps this unusual outburst at the Malaysia Open 2014 was provoked by something behind-the-scenes.

The MO final was the only professional match when I seen them act like that. Even in the SF against Rian/Angga where it was EXTREMELY CLOSE, they have never acted like that, which is why I'm very puzzled.

The MO final was the only professional match when I seen them act like that. Even in the SF against Rian/Angga where it was EXTREMELY CLOSE, they have never acted like that, which is why I'm very puzzled.