I am planning to start a small website where I will categorize all the long texts I write in Stormfront and PAA; I wrote an article to begin with that site, which I post here.

The article I've written doesn't make an exhaustive explanation on the Vril society (for an explanation on Vril Gesellschaft go here), but on the medium which led it: Maria Orsic. If you think you can bring in extra information please do so, so to extend the article.

Enjoy.

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Maria Orsic

(also known and Maria Orschitsch was a famous medium who became the leader of the Vril Gesellschaft. She was born in Vienna (Austria). Her father was a Croatian immigrant from Zagreb, her mother was from Vienna.

Maria soon followed the German national movement which was active at this time; the main goal of the movement was to annex Austria with the German Reich. In the year 1919 Maria moved to München, to her boyfriend, who became later her fiancé. It is unknown whether they married or not, because they both disappeared in 1945.

Maria Orsic

In Munich Maria was in contact with the Thule Gesellschaft and soon she created her own circle together with Traute A. from Munich and several other friends: the “Alldeutsche Gesellschaft für Metaphysik”, official name of the Vril Gesellschaft. All of them were young ladies, which among other things were against the arising fashion of short hair-styles for women. Both Maria and Traute were beautiful ladies with very long hair; Maria was blond and Traute was brown-haired. They had long horse tails, a very uncommon hairstyle at that time. This became a disctinctive characteristic in all the women who integrated Vril which was maintained till May 1945. They believed that their long hair acted as cosmic antennae to receive alien communication from beyond. In public, however, they hardly ever exhibited the hair in horse tail style. For identification, Vril members (also called “Vrilerinnen”) wore a disk which represented the two mediums: Maria Orsic and Sigrun.

In December 1919 a small group of persons from Thule, Vril and DHvSS (Men of the black stone) rented a small forester’s lodge in the vicinity of Berchtesgaden (Germany) where they met, accompanied by Maria Orsic and another medium who is only known as Sigrun. Maria claimed to have received mediumistically transmissions in a secret German Templar script - a language unknown to her - containing technical data for the construction of a flying machine. Vril documents mention these telepathic messages had their origin in Aldebaran, a solar system 68 light-years away in the constellation Taurus. She had two piles of papers: one with the Templar script, the other with a legible writing. Maria suspected the second pile would be written in an ancient eastern language and therefore she could be aided by the “Panbabylonists”, a circle close to the Thule society which was integrated by Hugo Winckler, Peter Jensen, Friedrich Delitzsch and others. It turned out that the apparently misterious language was actually ancient Summerian and hence the language of the ancient Babylonian culture founders. Sigrun, from the Vril gesellschaft helped translate the language and decipher the strange mental images of a circular flight machine.

The concept of “other science” (or “alternative science”) matured in this time and the following years. Because of the financing difficulties it took three years until the flying machine project started taking shape. By 1922, parts for the machine began arriving independently from various industrial sources paid in full by Thule and Vril.

In late November 1924 she visited Rudolf Hess in his apartment in Munich, together with Rudolf von Sebottendorf, the founder of the Thule Gesellschaft. Sebottendorf wanted to contact Dietrich Eckart, who had deceased one year before. Eckert had translated Ibsen’s plays into German and had published the magazine “Auf gut Deutsch”; he had also been a member of the Thule Gesellschaft. To establish contact with Eckart, Sebottendorff and other Thulists (amongst them Ernst Schulte-Strathauss) joined hands around a black-draped table.

Hess found unnerving to watch Maria Orsic’s eyeballs rolling back and showing only whites, and to see her slumping backward in her chair, mouth agape. However Sebottendorff smiled in satisfaction as the voice of Eckart started coming out of the medium. Eckart announced that he was obliged to let someone else’s voice come through, with an important message. A weird voice then identified itself as “the Sumi, dwellers of a distant world, which orbits the star Aldebaran in the constellation you call Taurus the Bull”. Hess and Schulte-Strathaus blinked at each other in surprise. According to the voice, the Sumi were an humanoid race who had briefly colonized Earth 500 million years ago. The ruins of ancient Larsa, Shurrupak and Nippur in Iraq had been built by them. Those of them who survived the great flood of Ut-napishtim (the Deluge of Noah’s Ark) had become the ancestors of the Aryan race. Sebottendorff remained skeptical and asked for proof. While Maria was still in a trance, she scribbled several lines of queer-looking marks. Those marks turned out to be ancient Summerian characters, the language of the founders of the oldest Babylonian culture.

Kolberg in 1940

In December 1943 Maria attended, together with Sigrun, a meeting held by Vril at the seaside resort of Kolberg. The main purpose of the meeting was to deal with the “Aldebaran project”. The Vril mediums had received precise information regarding the habitable planets around the sun Aldebaran and they were willing to plan a trip there. This project was discussed again the 22nd January 1944 in a meeting between Hitler, Himmler, Dr. W. Schumann (scientist and professor in the Technical University of Munich) and Kunkel of the Vril Gesellschaft. It was decided that a Vril 7 “Jäger” would be sent through a dimension channel independent of the speed of light to Aldebaran. According to N. Ratthofer (writer), a first test flight in the dimension channel took place in late 1944. The test flight almost ended in disaster because after the flight the Vril 7 looked “as if it had been flying for a hundred years”. Its outer skin looked aged and had suffered damages in several places.

Maria Orsic disappeared in 1945. The 11th of March of 1945 an internal document of the Vril Gesellschaft was sent to all its members; a letter written by Maria Orsic. The letter ends: “niemand bleibt hier” (noone is staying here). This was the last announcement from Vril, and since then noone heard again from Maria or the rest of members. It is speculated they escaped to Aldebaran.

I'm still waiting to give you reputation points for three other posts. Absolutely fabulous and outrageously interesting information. I'm incredibly intrigued by these Vril and Thule societies and their philosophy, I just wanted to ask before I explore this topic any further. Do you have any reservations with these stories, I mean, do you believe they are real or not? And how substantiated is the existence of these individuals and their actions? Any further documents, links or sources that you can provide?

First of all I will point out that unlike the Thule society, the Vril society was much more secretive, if it ever existed. In fact there's almost no evidence it existed, and this is due to several factors:

- There were very few members from whom the most known was Maria Orsic and still, there's very few information about her.

- When Hitler prohibited the secret societies in 1941 they registered the society as a business, named "Antriebstechnischen Werkstätten Vril" (something like Vril propeller technical workshop)

- All of the members are said to have disappeared in 1945.

My personal opinion is that the people, at least Maria, existed. Was there a secret society named Vril or not, I cannot confirm it for sure. This is a secret Himmler and Sebottendorff took to the tomb. It is said though that Vril society occasionally for Adam Opel AG and Arado asked them for a special type of propeller for their planes. Vril is said to have been included in the secret organization Himmler created, "Die Kette".

I think there's enough information to think it was possible it existed, however like in many other areas of knowledge of the III Reich, specially in the esotherical branch, it is not intended to take it as a dogma but to be open minded.

Troy was said to have existed for thousands of years, yet noone had convincent proof and noone found it, until Heinrich Schlieman discovered it in 1870, convinced it would exist. Therefore, the lack of substantial proof had never meant the city wouldn't have existed ever. It's a matter of open mind and wide horizon.

PS: forgot to add that the Vril society was first mentioned long after the war in 1967 by Bergier and Pauwels in their book "Aufbruch ins dritte Jahrtausend: von der Zukunft der phantastischen Vernunft". Later in the 90's by Jan Udo Holey (Jan Van Helsing)

A very important article….the first way to defeat an enemy is to create the Mythos…the Vril and Thule Society in Germany started in 1919…the rest is history…Miguel Serrano continued this tradition…we need more of this today…i saw on warehouse in Portland OR..'Amor'..on an area that could not be reached by anyone…Amor is part of the Hyperborean tradition…they are coming back to us now..in our hour of need...

Maria Orsic was born on 31/10/1895 in Vienna, Austria. Her father's name is Tomislav Orsic He was born in Croatian. Her mother's name is Sabine Orsic and was German I can't find the birth and death date of her parents I hope someone can find them I have had a hard time finding it on the internet. In WW2 Maria Orsic was a Medium for the Vril society in Germany then it was put in the SS On the 11 of March 1945 she left a letter ending in "Niemand bleibt hier" (none is staying here but what was on the main things on the letter ? they know the war was lost did the Americans give them a deal or did they work for the Rothschilds ? Maria Orsic did have a child possibly Named Yolanta Raffa (Has nothing to do with the Raffa family and the women who got the name from a ugly divorce) I don't know who the father is of Maria Orsic child or birth date I do believe that Maria Orsic went to America before the end of the war with a deal made with America maybe that was on the letter. She did not go to Aldebaran

Maria Orsic was born on 31/10/1895 in Vienna, Austria. Her father's name is Tomislav Orsic He was born in Croatian. Her mother's name is Sabine Orsic and was German I can't find the birth and death date of her parents I hope someone can find them I have had a hard time finding it on the internet. In WW2 Maria Orsic was a Medium for the Vril society in Germany then it was put in the SS On the 11 of March 1945 she left a letter ending in "Niemand bleibt hier" (none is staying here but what was on the main things on the letter ? they know the war was lost did the Americans give them a deal or did they work for the Rothschilds ? Maria Orsic did have a child possibly Named Yolanta Raffa (Has nothing to do with the Raffa family and the women who got the name from a ugly divorce) I don't know who the father is of Maria Orsic child or birth date I do believe that Maria Orsic went to America before the end of the war with a deal made with America maybe that was on the letter. She did not go to Aldebaran