Posted:8th May 2006I put tails on my homemade poi and since doing so I can't seem to learn any new moves and I can no longer do buzzsaw (my fav move!). Has anybody else had trouble when they've used tails or am I just having a bad week? I'm tempted to cut them off but they are so pretty!

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Posted:8th May 2006Personally i hate tails....yeah they look pretty,But if your just learning they make evrything a lot harder......and they whip you in the face when you're doing the buzzsaw sometimes...

Posted:8th May 2006how long are the tails? Long tails are cr*p for doing tricks like that, and dont even attempt any tangles! try shortening the tails, it may let you get away with a buzzsaw! I have different poi for different tricks - my socks for wraps and tangles, tails for long arm prettyness, but then i have my fluffies that are a general all rounder!

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Posted:8th May 2006There comes a time in every spinners life when you realise you're not really gonna progress past the three beat weave really fast stage, or learn anything other than reels without getting rid of the tails...

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Posted:8th May 2006Nah thats not true, tails make poi difficult but if you can learn with tails (some of the more harder poi) then its something to be proud of. If you can detatch your tails take them off and spin with them occasionaly but people have said that after they cut off there tails they start to miss them.

Ide recomend buying another set of poi without tails, you can never have enough poi

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Posted:8th May 2006Its not the the actual tails Im not too keen on, its generally the string that everything is held together with. Its about 18.3 times harder to tangle with strings than socks or cones.String blisters your fingers much quicker too due to its reduced thickness too.

Posted:9th May 2006I don't get why everyone's so against tails. Sure, they slap you in the face occasionally, but it beats a black eye from a monkey fist. Mind you, short fat tails are horrible to spin with. I prefer cobras...

I like to learn with something easier then use flags or tails when I'm showing off. Tails don't make poi difficult. They just show up all your errors a hell of a lot more. You might only be slightly out of plane, but it'll be painfully obvious if you're spinning with tails.In other words, use them to polish moves that you can already do (using tails was how I learned to keep my 3bt nice and smooth), but don't use them to learn new ones.

Oh, and contrary to popular belief, I tried hyperlooping with tails the other week and it was easy...

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airwaps with tails are really hard unless youve got shortish tails. hyperloops work okay. antipsin feels like it looks excellent with tails.. (was playing with some earlier... not sure if ive seen anyone else antispinning tails... theres a shortage of tailed poi spinners )antispin buzzsaw is a fun one to try the also felt wicked for doing inversions and stuff although i reckon if you tails are too long this would be problematic. i learnt (my first reallllly sketchy) isolations with tails... makes learning them easy cos all you have to do is try to grab the end of the other pois tail...

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Posted:9th May 2006i love tails and they are the reason i started spinning along with fire of course. they are so pretty but they are a pain in the ass. i kinda hindered myself( or thats my excuse anyways) for ages for refusing to use anything but tails. if u wanna stick with tails i would recomend u practice new moves with sommat like socks to get u there then spin those tails baby cos they are the best you know. x

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Posted:9th May 2006Bah.. you silly folk.. Tails are lots of fun.. Of course, as with any poi things, the materials do make a difference. First off, if you have strings, get freakin rid of them!! Strings are evil. Go get yourself some ball chain, makes it much more lovely.

I use Zuni poi with pretty long tails and don't have too much of a problem with stuff. I can accomplish just about everything I can do with the tails, including airwraps, barrel rolls, atomic barrels (just started since it's all the rage, so they're not the prettiest, but doable), isolations..

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Posted:9th May 2006Go tails! Hyperloops and such a harder with tails of course, but they make the rest of your spinning so much better. I agree, they do polish your form and what not, but they also teach you to be more graceful! Besides, who needs to do a buzz saw, it's horribly overdone.

Try doing some btb with tails, it's always a crowd pleaser. The audience doesn't know the science behind poi, they just want something colorful and pretty to look at. While fluffy poi are fun for learning, for showing off they're bad.

Posted:9th May 2006I don't know, I quite like tails. I I can hyperloop and airwrap with tails, however, the string hurts like hell when you're doing short poi stuff...so for most of the time I use my socks, cos they're just fun!

When I spin antispin with them, the tennis balls really aren't weighty to help you spin them, and because they're so light you have to spin harder and faster. I like spinning slow, but not so slow that the head falls to the floor...

The amount of times I've screwed up a tangle with tails, and had to spend ages trying to get the bloody things to untangle again.

I also like shorter poi, and getting tails to the length I prefer involves lots of knotting the string, and blisters on the fingers...

What really bugs me, is I spin my HoP sock poi at a convention, and people ask what they are, because they're not 'proper poi' and say that I wouldn't be able to do all that stuff with 'proper poi'. WTF are 'proper poi' anyway?

Every different type of poi has its advantages, I suppose...

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Go tails! Hyperloops and such a harder with tails of course, but they make the rest of your spinning so much better. I agree, they do polish your form and what not, but they also teach you to be more graceful! Besides, who needs to do a buzz saw, it's horribly overdone.

Clubs are better than tails for polishing your form up a little. You don't have the luxury of a string that'll let you get away with dodgy planes and the like.

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and no-one could deny that they are pretty damn useful for teaching

I do, unless you're teaching someone who already has a basic level of control. If you're teaching complete beginners then they spend more time untangling tail poi more than actually learning something.Not wanting to pimp out clubs too much, I find they're much better for demonstrating something too, because you can go much slower than you can with tails or any other poi.

But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.

Clubs do not translate well for me since I use finger loops and rely heavily on finger movements for control. Because the grip is so different for clubs (or because I don't know how to swing them correctly), they are almost useless for working out anything I would do with poi.

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I do, unless you're teaching someone who already has a basic level of control. If you're teaching complete beginners then they spend more time untangling tail poi more than actually learning something.

i meant the person doing the teaching using the tails bov

if i had meant they make learning easier i would have said "they are pretty damn useful for learning" or something

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