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Sasuke without sharingan( =Minato) >Naruto without kurama

The title say it all
The sharingan is the uchiha blood line power This mean they born with the potential of getting the sharingan.

Sasuke
Sasuke is a born genius stated by many senior ninja in konoha and other villages.Sasuke without sharingan can still do all lightning release,fire release,good at weaponary,good at taijutsu etc.I believe sasuke will be like minato without sharingan.
MINATO
Minato was also a genius in combat.He was like naruto but with intellegent and more knowledge of jutsu.

Naruto
Naruto without sharingan will not be able to think through battle,very easy to be predictable or very vulnerable .He will not have also the ability to heal,used effect resengan variation and speed.
However Sage mode will be the only help for him but he will not have the speed dodge his oponent attacks.He will jutsu rely on Ma and Pa toad to think for him when they fuse.

Re: Sasuke without sharingan =Minato >Naruto without kurama

Originally Posted by choft

When Sasuke can do FTG and RDS, then he is equal to Minato - until then, without sharingan, he is inferior.

Erm the manga has established sasuke as a genius in his own right before the sharingan, but also a ninja developer.
Is he equal to Minato its subjective, not sure who people are flaming the op. However what interests me is where you got the idea that he created shiki fuijin.

Re: Sasuke without sharingan =Minato >Naruto without kurama

Originally Posted by Blaze Release

Erm the manga has established sasuke as a genius in his own right before the sharingan, but also a ninja developer.
Is he equal to Minato its subjective, not sure who people are flaming the op. However what interests me is where you got the idea that he created shiki fuijin.

Kakashi was considered a genius too before he had the sharingan, but he was still no match against Minato. Even now, I would say that the only reason Kakashi might stand a chance would be because of Kamui.

I don't see how Sasuke will have any techniques which can counter FTG, especially without the Sharingan. As for RDS, I never said Minato invented it - I just don't see Sasuke learning pro sealing techniques, especially since the fact that Kushina isn't as close to Sasuke as Minato is.

Re: Sasuke without sharingan =Minato >Naruto without kurama

Originally Posted by choft

Kakashi was considered a genius too before he had the sharingan, but he was still no match against Minato. Even now, I would say that the only reason Kakashi might stand a chance would be because of Kamui.

I don't see how Sasuke will have any techniques which can counter FTG, especially without the Sharingan. As for RDS, I never said Minato invented it - I just don't see Sasuke learning pro sealing techniques, especially since the fact that Kushina isn't as close to Sasuke as Minato is.

I agree that ninja's with special abilities either kg or jin, when they are stripped off their powers they become weaker than ninja's without kg or special trait. However that is because they have moulded their fighting style around this therefore obviously taking it away from them and they would be to an extent lost.

I see sasuke learning sealing techniques. He is also a genius who was said to grasp the concept of stuff so easily that he was a bore to teach, though it would depend on his teacher. Even now with his intuition he put one and two together based on the Fuja Hoin principle to release orochimaru using Kaija Hoin

Originally Posted by SasoriOfTheRedSaand

Minato ****S on Sasuke without sharingan. Literally low diff.

Im arguing something of more importance and do not partake much in vs threads

Re: Sasuke without sharingan =Minato >Naruto without kurama

Originally Posted by Blaze Release

I see sasuke learning sealing techniques. He is also a genius who was said to grasp the concept of stuff so easily that he was a bore to teach, though it would depend on his teacher. Even now with his intuition he put one and two together based on the Fuja Hoin principle to release orochimaru using Kaija Hoin

Re: Sasuke without sharingan =Minato >Naruto without kurama

Originally Posted by Blaze Release

I agree that ninja's with special abilities either kg or jin, when they are stripped off their powers they become weaker than ninja's without kg or special trait. However that is because they have moulded their fighting style around this therefore obviously taking it away from them and they would be to an extent lost.

I see sasuke learning sealing techniques. He is also a genius who was said to grasp the concept of stuff so easily that he was a bore to teach, though it would depend on his teacher. Even now with his intuition he put one and two together based on the Fuja Hoin principle to release orochimaru using Kaija Hoin

That's why I used the example of Kakashi specifically, because to me, Sasuke would have been like Kakashi without Sharingan.

Both are lightning style users, both are intelligent, and if Sasuke wasn't obsessed with his clan, I would say that he has the same kind of attitude Kakashi had.

As for the example you said about releasing Orochimaru, all of this happened because he had Sharingan. If he had not had the Sharingan, Orochimaru wouldn't have even been him interested in Sasuke in the first place, and thus given him a curse mark, and Sasuke wouldn't have noticed it. But yeah, maybe Sasuke would have learnt sealing techinques, but I wouldn't say it would be to the same level as Minato. Kakashi knows Fuja Hoin too, but he doesn't know RDS.

There are different level of geniuses, and I think Sasuke was Kakashi-genius level, not Minato's level.

Re: Sasuke without sharingan =Minato >Naruto without kurama

Originally Posted by Blaze Release

Erm the manga has established sasuke as a genius in his own right before the sharingan, but also a ninja developer.
Is he equal to Minato its subjective, not sure who people are flaming the op. However what interests me is where you got the idea that he created shiki fuijin.