Thoughts from the interface of science, religion, law and culture

After spending several years touring the country as a stand up comedian, Ed Brayton tired of explaining his jokes to small groups of dazed illiterates and turned to writing as the most common outlet for the voices in his head. He has appeared on the Rachel Maddow Show and the Thom Hartmann Show, and is almost certain that he is the only person ever to make fun of Chuck Norris on C-SPAN.

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Oh No! Pat’s Gonna Out Me!

Our old friend Pat is upset. Mighty upset. He doesn’t like it that I make fun of him every once in a while and, being the weapons grade dumbass that he is, he thinks that’s stalking. Of course, he always did have a problem with that idea and a Bryan Fischer-like ability to project his own behavior on others.

Hey Ed.

I’m just gonna say this. You keep up the stalking, and I am just going to do it. I am going to pull the trump card and post your real address. I do have it and I will post it, if you keep it up. I’m tired of your stalking and mocking of me and my family.

So, cut the crap, or it’s going up and I’ll just deal with the consequences, if any.

First and Last Warning.

Thanks for the chuckle, Pat. And the trip down memory lane. Last time you tried that you posted my uncle’s address, not mine (we have the same name, so it’s not the first time we’ve been mixed up). So just in case you have in mind doing that again, I’ll save you the trouble. My address is 237 Stephanie Court, Belding, Michigan. I’d be concerned about you showing up here, but that would require leaving your parents’ basement. And having a car. And not being far too pathetic to do anything but rage incoherently on your website that makes a MySpace page look subtle and understated.

And just for the record, Pat, since I know you have trouble with the concept: Responding publicly to what someone else wrote publicly and criticizing what they write is not stalking. Putting someone else’s address on line and telling people to pay him a visit, as you have already done? That’s stalking. I quote no less an authority than you, when someone posted your address on Wonkette three years ago:

Oh, and to the liberal tools who called my house and posted my address. Ever heard of stalking laws?

Update: Awww, that’s so cute. He went ahead and put up an entire blog devoted to me, Ed Brayton Exposed, and put up my address. And he got it right this time too (well, he got the address right; he did misspell my name in the URL though). Congratulations, Pat! I will henceforth cower in fear that one of your seven readers will bum a ride to my house someday and pee in the front yard or something. The site is actually registered to Keith Levenson (which may just be the blogspot whois, not the actual blog owner; I have no idea how that works for a site like blogspot), but the writing is pure Pat. He claims to have found it, but the writing is a dead giveaway.

We here at this blog, feel that Ed Brayton has gotten away unscathed by these attacks long enough. So, we are going to fire the first shot, figuratively, across his bow…

By the way, we are told that this is an section eight apartment, because Edward is too lazy to get a real job and by a real house. Because of this, he lives with a bunch of poor people.

Awkward use of commas? Check. Can’t spell even three-letter words correctly? Check. Weapons-grade projection? Check. And then he puts up a bunch of pictures that I’ve put up on my blog over the years, including a picture of my desk with the caption:

And another of my microphone (actually the microphone that the radio station loaned me for my radio show, which I no longer have):

Ooh, Ed’s got a big microphone! That is for calling all those mean old Christians nasty names! Again, bigotry must pay awful good!

Contradicting himself only a few sentences apart? Check. Random capitalization of words that don’t need to be capitalized? Check. And then a picture that I put up from a trip to Las Vegas with a few friends, of us having dinner at Rick Moonen’s excellent seafood restaurant at Mandalay Bay, with this caption:

Man, all this guy does is eat. Notice that chick that is not wearing much. Gee, we knew you were a secularist, Ed; but hookers? Geez, you can’t do any better than that? Has Ed been tested for AIDS lately? Just wondering.

Actually, that’s the wife of the guy sitting next to her, obscured by the tower of seafood. If you could actually tell her identity, I’d probably get pretty pissed off about this one. But you can’t. The “about” page is more of that godawful writing we’ve come to expect from Pat:

This blog was set up, because there is a person among the human race, who believes that it is his duty to persecute the Christian Conservative community. All the while demanding that his personal information never be revealed. Well, we happen to think that this is unfair and are going to rectify that situation…

The owners of this blog, and yes, there are many; will not be held responsible for anything that might happen to Mr. Brayton, as a result of our blogging. We figure that if Mr. Brayton is that stupid to do that which he is doing and is not smart enough to conceal his identity and whereabouts; then that is his problem.

Also too; No, Mr. Brayton, we will not remove this blog, nor your personal information, ever.

Relax, Pat. If you were anything but a lazy git sitting in his parents’ basement raging away at everyone, I might actually feel threatened by this. But I don’t. I’m amused by it. You’re just so cute when you ball up your little fists, stomp your little feet feet and let out a primal scream. It might be time for your mommy to change your diapers or bring down a pacifier.

It’s especially funny to be accused of bigotry by such a rank bigot. Let’s set the wayback machine for 2009, when Pat got his panties in a bunch over a single Republican — Rep. Anh Cao, who is Asian — voting for the health care reform bill and launched this racist tirade:

@AnhJosephCao You Bastard piece of shit fuck! GO BACK TO Saigon, South Vietnam where you fucking BELONG GOOK!

My Uncle served in Vietnam all he could stab this Country in the back. @samuel @levihenry @kerrence @tonyyeung @paparatti @Yeggo @frautoasty

Some of us, have not forgotten what happened on Dec 7, 1941 either! @samuel @levihenry @kerrence @tonyyeung @paparatti @Yeggo @frautoasty

@tonyyeung That’s because LIBERALS like YOU LIED about the damn war, ya sland-eyed ASSHOLE

I’m really starting to distrust ANYONE of Eastern Descent. 1st it was John Yu, then it was Obama’s guy saying we should repay China.

I’m head fucking serious… Al-Qaeda is not our Worst Enemy. The East is man. China, Japan, Vietnam, all of ‘em. #tcot #hcr #killbill #VTO

Remember ’41 people, this was their revenge on us. Ceo is a fucking Commie Plant in the G.O.P. #tcot #hcr #killbill #VTO

@FoxieNews Ya think? That rat bastard sold the G.O.P. up the river! and After all the Americans that went to ‘Nam and Died. :-/ Pissed.

@samuel They had it coming after what they did to us at Pearl Harbor!!!!

@TexasRV Not to mention that Yellow man Cao that sold us up the damned river.

Whack Job my ass…. that bastard slant-eyed son of a bitch sold the G.O.P. up the fucking river and he knows it!

And here he was talking about the Seattle PD shooting a black man:

For putting a hamburger-headed looking Negro thug out of his own damned misery, the Seattle Police Department deserves a metal of freedom. That is right, I said it, I am glad as hell, that this black thug is dead. Truth is, this black bastard should have been executed, long ago, for his damned crimes in the first place. This is why; I believe that death penalty is a sane solution to our Prison overcrowding system. However, because we live in a liberal society, that believe that dirtball thugs like this have rights too; most States in America do not have a death penalty in them and dirt bag black bastards like this continue to roam the streets and fill our already overcrowded prisons…

I know, some of you, most likely liberals are going to say that this is a racist posting. I got one thing to say; I am a white and proud motherfucker and I am sorry that you are not. Besides, we all know that the black race is not exactly made up of civilized human beings anyhow.

Bryan Fischer would be proud of this level of sheer obliviousness to his own psychological projection.

“Didn’t Pat win the Bryan Fischer award some time last year?”
Perhaps not that usually goes to hypocrites that are at least coherent (or possibly at the very string somewhat grammatical sentences together). This crap qualifies as neither.

There’s a thoroughly nebulous line between fools deserving ridicule and the mentally ill who deserve pity. I’m more and more inclined to place Pat on the pitiable side. How horrible it must be to be him.

Also, having gone there to Pat’s post despite promising myself not to; I want to set up a free graphic design charity that would help the right to produce decent websites. No one should have to suffer a visit there.

It’s not even a desk, actually. It’s two five-foot folding tables at right angles to form a V. Gives me more room than a regular desk and much easier to pick up and move when necessary.

Ah, yes… the Antichrist brand of folding table, model number IH8AMERICA. I hear they’re made of wood recycled from burned down churches. George Soros will automatically send you one if you ever say anything bad about any conservative ever.

Sweet. Keep giving Patty more rope to hang himself. I do always enjoy Christians bearing false witness against others. It just warms the cockles of my heart. Thank you, Oh TrueChristian, for being another wonderful example of how Christianity is nothing magical at all.

I’m finding it quite amusing that Pat keeps claiming that he isn’t the one who put up that site, now putting up a post at Ed Brayton Exposed as someone else saying he’s never even heard of himself. But as documented above, the writing is a dead giveaway. I mean, look at this:

Ed Brayton, a bastion of so-called enlightened thought; demonstrates to his readers — just mentally challenged he really is.

Brayton says the following, while accusing some blogger that we have never even heard of before — of running this site

This is just funny. On the very same day that Pat accuses me of “persecution” for criticizing him, another person who has never even heard of him — wink, wink — just happened to create a whole new blog accusing me of persecuting “conservative Christians” (sorry “Conservative Christians” — can’t leave out the pointlessly capitalized word). And then Pat puts up a link on his blog telling people to send their “persecution” stories to that other person who has never heard of him. And they both not only write badly, but write badly in exactly the same ways (the recurring incorrect use of semicolons, in particular, seems like a pretty obvious sign). Nice try, Pat. It’s you. Or you have an equally stupid twin somewhere.

I think you entered the whois lookup information incorrectly. Keith Levenson is the registrant name for https.com. all sites with URLs under wordpress.com would have the same registrant, which is ‘Domain Admin, Automattic, Inc.’.

I don’t believe it’s possible to discover the individual behind a wordpress (or blogspot) site through whois. You’d need to get that information from wordpress (or blogspot) through a profile page if available.

LOL. He deleted it. And now he’s taking one of his famous breaks from blogging (he’s done this several times before, declared that he was leaving forever and then showed back up a day or two later; this time it’s only for a few days, he says). And he has a message for me:

I also find it pretty ironic, that someone who claims to believe in free market principles; makes it his personal mission to destroy those who disagree with his idiotic, warped worldviews. You know who you are, you fat bastard freak. I hope you drop dead of a heart attack and a stoke too. I would not shed a tear, and I would, in fact, come up there and piss and crap on your grave. I mean that in the most Christian way I can muster, you fat freak chump.

Apparently he is as oblivious to real mirrors as he is to metaphorical ones. I’m always fascinated by this bizarre persecution complex some people have. They think criticism is persecution or an attempt to destroy them. It’s really quite irrational. By the way, notice that identical and incorrect use of the semicolon. It’s one of the reasons why there was zero doubt in my mind that he was the one who put up the site he now took down (though I imagine he will now claim that there’s no connection at all between taking it down and his sudden decision to disappear for a few days — it’s purely coincidental, I’m sure).

What an idiot. For someone who seems the type to be absolutely livid that Section 8 exists, he dure has no idea how it works, apparently. Although that is quite far down on the list of what makes this guy a tool.

Thank you Ed,for bringing this completely insane blog to my attention. That blog is pure comedy gold. It is like watching a train wreck… I just can’t stop looking. I thought I would repost this gem of a post, in case you overlooked it, to wit:

Now obviously this guy was just using his appearance to get money and succeeded. However, allow me to share something with you.

I am a fat guy okay? Sometimes we fat people do sweat, and because of that, we sometimes do put off a little body odor. I have been a situation once, where I was being harassed because a little body odor that I had, because I was doing physical labor. Finally, I said the magic words, “Get off my ass, or I will see you in court!” Well, not long after that, I ended up losing the job assignment, as it was a “head hunter agency” job. But I still feel to this day, that I was; one being pestered, because I was overweight and two, because I was white. My boss was black. His name? Ronald Slaughter. That man hated white people with a passion and it showed. He works or did work for Blue Cross, Blue Shield of Michigan.

So, I can see how this guy feels. The sick thing is; this is hipster Los Angeles. These are supposed to be enlightened Liberals.

Oh, the job, I drove straight truck for a “head hunter” agency. It was “PC refresh” project. Yes, it was labor intensive, believe me, I had the sore back to prove it. I remember ol’ Ronald Slaughter, how he told me once in his office, “Ain’t no body give a fuck what you think, whitey.” I never forgot that; never saw racial hatred from blacks to whites before.

Needless to say, that changed my attitude towards black people. That and my cousin getting killed in Detroit in 1994.

By the way, Ron Slaughter; if you see this —- screw you Jiggaboo… Devil”

Not only did he admit that he is overweight, despite insulting you for the exact same thing, but he actually admitted to getting fired from a job for body odor, and even threw in some ignorant racist drivel to boot! It is like a perfect trifecta of stupidity. I also noticed a post where he admits to not working which kind of paints his prior rants about various minority groups being moochers in quite a different light.

Pat, if you are reading this, keep doing what you are doing buddy, never change….

I have to agree with Scott. This long ago reached the point at which I cringe to see these posts. I really think you’re making fun of a mentally ill person, and that’s just not cool.

QFT. I said this years ago when “Pat” started becoming a regular feature here. This isn’t funny or clever – you’re going out of your way to mock someone who clearly has serious problems. Just disengage and leave him the fuck alone.

Relax, Pat. If you were anything but a lazy git sitting in his parents’ basement raging away at everyone, I might actually feel threatened by this. But I don’t. I’m amused by it. You’re just so cute when you ball up your little fists, stomp your little feet feet and let out a primal scream. It might be time for your mommy to change your diapers or bring down a pacifier.

For a second there I read that as “a lazy git shitting in his parents’ basement – lol.

Yeah some of us never outgrow toilet humour do we?

They say you can judge a person by their enemies so I guess that means you need better enemies -‘cept o’course its not the sort of thing one really needs at all!

Good response to a very silly if also pathetic and pitiable individuals “crusade” (if thats the right word? yeah prob’ly is!) against you.

Oh, this gets better. Now he’s accusingme of putting up the anti-me site. And it makes me Satan. And Hitler too.

How ironic is it that Ed Brayton, out of nowhere, links to me for the sole purpose of mocking me for what I stand for; as a “wingnut” and then an anonymous blog appears, that looks like mine, complete with perfectly copied typing style of mine; and then when the eyeballs show up, it disappears?

What do you think is happening? I might not be smartest man in the world; but I am not a fool. I smell coordination.

This just shows me just how low that these people will go to malign, discredit, smear, libel those who dare to happen to believe in a higher power. This is nothing more than the tactics of Satan himself.

I do know not personally who is involved and quite honestly; I could really care less. What troubles me, is that it is happening at all. Because, quite frankly, these tactics are on par with what happened in Nazi Germany and in the communist Soviet empire. In case you are dense, I am referring to fascism.

For the record, making fun of Pat is hardly a regular feature. I take a look at his blog every 3 months or so at most. As for those who think I’m picking on someone who is mentally ill, I am left trying to figure out how one distinguishes between mental illness and just being an ignorant, hypocritical, stupid racist. He looks a lot like the latter to me and I think that makes him more than fair game.

Although, I will mention that I, in no way, shape or form; endorse White Nationalism, Neo-Nazism or any of the other bigoted idiocy out there. I simply am someone who loves God and my Country.

..I would, in fact, come up there and piss and crap on your grave. I mean that in the most Christian way I can muster, you fat freak chump.

What way again?

And verily did the Lord say, if thine enemy strike thee on one cheek turn and offer them the other cheek to strike also piss and crap on thine enemies grave?

Jesus spaketh unto the crowd sayingeth blessed be the peacemakers piss and crap on the peace makers graves for thou art not United States citizens?

The parable as Jesus told it goes that a traveller who had been gravely injured by robbers lay beside the road and a pharisee televangelist (updated) drove past seeing the wounded traveller and deigning to help him not. After a while a Levite priest(updated) drove past the traveller, saw him and aided him not nor stopped at all. Then past came a Samaritan Thinking Americanist who paused, stopped went unto the wounded man. He saw that the traveller was sick and so he waited until the injured man had passed away and then pissed and crapped on travellers body. Who then I ask was this man’s neighbour? The one who pissed and crapped on his corpse!

Dying on the Cross in agony falsely accused our lawd’n’saviour looked out upon the crowd of his friends, his family, his disciples, the Roman and Maccabean soldiers and those many hundreds even thousands of who had merely come to spectate and cheer the mob. He gasped and took a last breath crying out Forgive them Father they know not what they do “Piss and shit on their graves!”

Hmm … Doesn’t sound very babblical to me.

He that lives by the blog dies by the blog? Gentle Jeebus meek and mild .. and severely incontinent?

Ed’s being attacked by Pat is something like the U.S. being attacked by the Grand Duchy of Fenwick; except for the Q-bomb and the humor of Peter Sellers and company.

Pat is a pathetic fuckwad and may just be clinically insane. There is no doubt that he is a mean spirited, bigoted and hypocritical piece of shit. Like Mr. Mabus, Pat’s being ignored has not made him mellow.

As for those who think I’m picking on someone who is mentally ill, I am left trying to figure out how one distinguishes between mental illness and just being an ignorant, hypocritical, stupid racist. He looks a lot like the latter to me and I think that makes him more than fair game.

Pretending people expressing concern are out to call you a bully is an easy way to dismiss the obvious problem with your plan, but I can’t stop you. If you want to keep screwing with someone who clearly has trouble letting go that’s your problem.

Skeptifem, I largely agree with you. But the problem is, I suspect there’s no fundamental difference between Pat and other Yankee anti-science, misogynistic, superstitious, and chronically angry jerks.

We’re talking about 20-30% of the population. They have the mental equivalent of metabolic syndrome – which is so common that at one time it was considered simply “aging”, but we now know that it’s largely avoidable. But like metabolic syndrome, ill-informed authoritarianism requires a lot of work and some knowledge to avoid in those so inclined, and is most easily fixed when we get to the “patient” when young. I see no reason to think that Pat is psychotic, schizophrenic, OCD, or some such. But a predisposition to black and white, authoritarian thinking perhaps, combined with an unfortunate environment and a lifetime of habits have shaped a very disagreeable and not very effective personality.

We could leave him to his basement, I suppose, or try to reason with him. I don’t think he will ever escape the darkness he has cloaked himself in on his own.

“Pretending people expressing concern are out to call you a bully is an easy way to dismiss the obvious problem with your plan, but I can’t stop you.”

Where exactly are you getting that Ed is pretending that people expressing concern are out to call him a bully exactly? It sure ain’t in what you quoted. Perhaps you should try using a little less straw next time.

“when the eyeballs show up in disappears” – So does he think you made a fake blog for your own personal amusement , even though you would obviously know it is fake, since you would have made it in that scenario? That is highly illogical. If someone made a fake blog they would no doubt want a lot of people to see it, duh.

Tony ∞ºQueer Duck Hivemind Minionº∞
(#82) – bronzed and with his butt expertly buffed by Stephen Fry, I assume.
(#33) – I was wondering where all these Internet PhDs in Psychiatry and Psychology came from too.
Additional questions that come to mind are:
Are your degrees recognised by the AMA? How many hours of clinical experience do you have? How did Pat get referred to you? How often did you ‘see’ him? Did you charge him for your services?
In other words: is this your considered, professional opinion, or just another wild stab in dark by another rank amateur*?
Do tell.

Uh, to all who worry about my credentials as a psychologist, I have none. I’m a rank amateur. But I have no problem saying that Pat’s behavior strikes me as qualitatively different than typical wingnut behavior. And I think the decent thing to do is to err on the side of caution. If I’m wrong, there’s no real harm in ignoring an idiotic wingnut. If I’m right, there’s real harm in badgering someone with a mental illness.

jameshanley:
I’m not comfortable abusing someone who *is* mentally ill. But I don’t have enough information, NOR am I qualified to make a diagnosis that Pat suffers from mental illness. Can you expand on your comment about his behavior being different than typical wingnuts?

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[…] Brayton says the following, while accusing some blogger that we have never even heard of before — of running this site: Update: Awww, that’s so cute. He went ahead and put up an entire blog devoted to me,Ed Brayton Exposed, and put up my address. And he got it right this time too (well, he got the address right; he did misspell my name in the URL though). Congratulations, Pat! I will henceforth cower in fear that one of your seven readers will bum a ride to my house someday and pee in the front yard or something. The site is actually registered to Keith Levenson (which may just be the blogspot whois, not the actual blog owner; I have no idea how that works for a site like blogspot), but the writing is pure Pat. […]