idiotic asking price....just an opportunistic individual that thinks they can find someone who will actually pay that price
from what I have they are not even authorized dealers!!!
I see the same thing on the Sharp elite LED
Goofballs are asking 3x what Best Buy( and other places) were selling them on clearance

BTW, do you guys feel confident that you could tell the difference between the VT60 and ZT60 PQ? And what of the prior year's VT50? The VT50 (no ZT that year) seemed to have very low numbers of complaints of IR/BI at AVS (just my impression), while the later ZT60 seems to have annoyed many people this way.

Not on Amazon. Some electronics store is trying to grab pigeons to pay $9999.00. Even has it written there as the MSRP. Sorry, I don't know if we're allowed to talk about price. Just addressing your post.

idiotic asking price....just an opportunistic individual that thinks they can find someone who will actually pay that price
from what I have they are not even authorized dealers!!!
I see the same thing on the Sharp elite LED
Goofballs are asking 3x what Best Buy( and other places) were selling them on clearance

BTW, do you guys feel confident that you could tell the difference between the VT60 and ZT60 PQ? And what of the prior year's VT50? The VT50 (no ZT that year) seemed to have very low numbers of complaints of IR/BI at AVS (just my impression), while the later ZT60 seems to have annoyed many people this way.

I think I could tell the difference between the VT60 & ZT60 side by side in a bright room, especially right after powering them on.

I was just at my dad's. He has a 65" VT50. He watches nothing but the Golf Channel & ESPN. I ran the scroll bar checking for IR & saw nothing. It's on THX Cinema with contrast at 76. The picture still looks really good but I think my ZT's PQ is better. (No bias here.)

Whoa, no kidding, he's a crook. TV's are not returnable over 24" in size? Robbery.

Yeah, but people just don't check this stuff. I've been talking about this online until I was blue in the fingertips. The return policy is the first thing I go over like the Zapruder film. Google "abes of maine" and you'll see a news report on how bad these places can be.

And I didn't get a great deal for my 60" ZT at $2300 in January, 2014. But didn't want to take chance of not getting one. Same as cash for 18 months if I remember correctly. Setup the payments for auto pay and just sit back and enjoy my ZT!

Yeah, but people just don't check this stuff. I've been talking about this online until I was blue in the fingertips. The return policy is the first thing I go over like the Zapruder film. Google "abes of maine" and you'll see a news report on how bad these places can be.

I certainly don't need to google Abes of Maine. I was one of their very disappointed customers. I bought a Sammy LCD from them 2 years back and their overly aggressive sales manner about the warranties and other shady tactics lead me to write a bad post about them on Resellerratings.com. Aside from that, they told me I had 7 days to exchange the set. I did. I sent back the LCD and got a Panny plasma. They made me pay for the shipping back which cost me close to $200. I wrote that on Resellerratings.com also. They called me multiple times begging me to remove the posts and even offered to give me a $100 discount coupon to eat at multiple restaurants which is just a big scam. To beg a customer to remove a bad rating helps them clean up their rating. I don't like this. I refused. They don't want potential customers to know how horrible their service is. They make Resellerratings.com an unreliable place.

BTW, do you guys feel confident that you could tell the difference between the VT60 and ZT60 PQ? And what of the prior year's VT50? The VT50 (no ZT that year) seemed to have very low numbers of complaints of IR/BI at AVS (just my impression), while the later ZT60 seems to have annoyed many people this way.

The zt60 should look clearly superior in a bright environment due to the filter, but will look identical to the vt60 in a really dark room.

As for the vt50, I had one before getting the vt60 and compared them side by side for a few days, the vt60 looks visibly better at night in terms of blacks, but they looked the same in high ambience during the day. And I never had any problems with IR on either set, worst case were logos that would go away after a few minutes of mixed content.

I think I could tell the difference between the VT60 & ZT60 side by side in a bright room, especially right after powering them on.

I was just at my dad's. He has a 65" VT50. He watches nothing but the Golf Channel & ESPN. I ran the scroll bar checking for IR & saw nothing. It's on THX Cinema with contrast at 76. The picture still looks really good but I think my ZT's PQ is better. (No bias here.)

Wow, isn't that amazing........ THX Cinema and contrast at 76, nothing but Golf Channel and ESPN and NO IR. Lol, the inconsistent and random pattern among these sets for IR is truly baffling.

Regarding the banding, I rarely notice it on mine. And if I do, usually very faint. Stile, give it some time and you'll forget about most of your TVs faults. Hopefully your fan issue will be one of those faults! Like someone said, the fan issue should've have been resolved during the R&D process.

ah, so you have it too. is it just one line? i noticed tonight that there is one on the right and a smaller one to the left of it. now every time i watch the TV i'm looking for it

Wow, isn't that amazing........ THX Cinema and contrast at 76, nothing but Golf Channel and ESPN and NO IR. Lol, the inconsistent and random pattern among these sets for IR is truly baffling.

Maybe he does have some faint IR? I use custom settings with the pixel orbiter on and change up the content regularly. I don't know if the orbiter actually helps in preventing IR more so than having it off though, but I keep it on just in case..otherwise I would be perfectly content with just using THX Cinema mode.

There might be some difference if you watch off center. There's no gap between the zt60's front glass and the plasma panel, but there is one for the vt60. So may see some reflections on the vt60s.

This is true I can see internal reflections on my vt60 from extreme off angle viewing on certain circumstances. Like a TNT logo on black background looks like a double image. Probably the biggest negative about the vt60 for me.

The zt60 should look clearly superior in a bright environment due to the filter, but will look identical to the vt60 in a really dark room.

As for the vt50, I had one before getting the vt60 and compared them side by side for a few days, the vt60 looks visibly better at night in terms of blacks, but they looked the same in high ambience during the day. And I never had any problems with IR on either set, worst case were logos that would go away after a few minutes of mixed content.

Yep, bright room here otherwise I'd have a VT and quite possibly two of them. Really happy with my ZT60 from November.

Would the video processing of the high end ZT60 not equal or exceed the Oppo?

Many thanks

Have a 65ZT60 and OPPO 103D - go for the 103D and use the Darbee set to around 39 for the ultimate experience - read up on the Oppo103D thread - as for video processing - I run the cable box set to pass-through/direct to the 103D, let the Oppo upscale/deinterlace and apply the Darbee and send to ZT by HDMI out1 - send audio to AVR via HDMI out2.

Would the video processing of the high end ZT60 not equal or exceed the Oppo?

Many thanks

This somewhat depends on your needs. If you intend to watch predominantly Blu ray discs and don't need any other functionality that the 103 offers, then pretty much any good Blu ray player should make you happy. If you want network streaming capabilities then weigh the 103's offerings against other players. In my case, I have a large library of SD DVDs that may never come out on Blu ray, or that I just don't want to upgrade. For me, the Qdeo processing in the 103 was important. I especially like what the Qdeo motion adaptive VNR does for older noisy DVDs. I also love the 103's scaling capabilities. Oppo also offers great customer support, and down the road if you ever needed repairs they offer a very reasonable fee for returning a product for repair. Decide how you will use your Blu ray player and what features you need, then compare the 103 against the competition for price and features. "If" you are a basic user and will mostly just play Blu rays however, the 103 will most likely be overkill, as you'll pay for features and functionality you don't need. YMMV.