As I read it, the help on location of the .ini file says that it should either live with tcmd.exe (on my system that's "c:\Program Files\JPSoft\tcmd11\")
or in a directory specified by the "/@" switch on the startup line or where "%localappdata%" points to.That's mostly as I remember it from 4DOS. My startup line as shown in 'properties' of the "TC" desktop icon, contains no switch, and "%localappdata%" is not set. I find my .ini file is in fact in "c:\Documents and Settings\...\Application Data\JPSoft\".

| As I read it, the help on location of the .ini file says that it
| should either live with tcmd.exe (on my system that's "c:\Program
| Files\JPSoft\tcmd11\") or in a directory specified by the "/@"
| switch on the startup line or where "%localappdata%" points to.
| That's mostly as I remember it from 4DOS. My startup line as
| shown in 'properties' of the "TC" desktop icon, contains no
| switch, and "%localappdata%" is not set. I find my .ini file is in
| fact in "c:\Documents and Settings\...\Application Data\JPSoft\".
|
| Did I miss something?

I presume your OS in WinXP, because that variable is not explicitly set by
the OS in WinXP, only in Vista or Win7. There is an oversight in the HELP
file on this issue relating to WinXP, where the OS does not define
LOCALAPPDATA. A more appropriate description would be:

The initialization file is selected in the manner below:

1/ if starting TCC.EXE and either the /I or the /II option is set, NO
initialization file is used, else

2/ if explicitly specified in the command line (using the @ character), that
file is used, else

I presume your OS in WinXP, because that variable is not explicitly set by
the OS in WinXP, only in Vista or Win7. There is an oversight in the HELP
file on this issue relating to WinXP, where the OS does not define
LOCALAPPDATA. A more appropriate description would be:

The initialization file is selected in the manner below:

1/ if starting TCC.EXE and either the /I or the /II option is set, NO
initialization file is used, else

2/ if explicitly specified in the command line (using the @ character), that
file is used, else

Thanks Steve, yes, I'm using XP so that explains the discrepancy.
But I can't find either of those environment settings you mention,
however there is %appdata% which points to "\Application Data" which is about as close as anything in the environment is at getting close to "\JPSoft" ... so that must be it. Anyway, I want to move it into the "\TCMD11" folder where it belongs, I'll see how it goes.

| As I read it, the help on location of the .ini file says that it
| should either live with tcmd.exe (on my system that's "c:\Program
| Files\JPSoft\tcmd11\") or in a directory specified by the "/@"
| switch on the startup line or where "%localappdata%" points to.
| That's mostly as I remember it from 4DOS. My startup line as
| shown in 'properties' of the "TC" desktop icon, contains no
| switch, and "%localappdata%" is not set. I find my .ini file is in
| fact in "c:\Documents and Settings\...\Application Data\JPSoft\".
|
| Did I miss something?

I presume your OS in WinXP, because that variable is not explicitly set by
the OS in WinXP, only in Vista or Win7. There is an oversight in the HELP
file on this issue relating to WinXP, where the OS does not define
LOCALAPPDATA. A more appropriate description would be:

The initialization file is selected in the manner below:

1/ if starting TCC.EXE and either the /I or the /II option is set, NO
initialization file is used, else

2/ if explicitly specified in the command line (using the @ character), that
file is used, else

| As I read it, the help on location of the .ini file says that it
| should either live with tcmd.exe (on my system that's "c:\Program
| Files\JPSoft\tcmd11\") or in a directory specified by the "/@"
| switch on the startup line or where "%localappdata%" points to.
| That's mostly as I remember it from 4DOS. My startup line as
| shown in 'properties' of the "TC" desktop icon, contains no
| switch, and "%localappdata%" is not set. I find my .ini file is in
| fact in "c:\Documents and Settings\...\Application Data\JPSoft\".
|
| Did I miss something?

I presume your OS in WinXP, because that variable is not explicitly set by
the OS in WinXP, only in Vista or Win7. There is an oversight in the HELP
file on this issue relating to WinXP, where the OS does not define
LOCALAPPDATA. A more appropriate description would be:

The initialization file is selected in the manner below:

1/ if starting TCC.EXE and either the /I or the /II option is set, NO
initialization file is used, else

2/ if explicitly specified in the command line (using the @ character), that
file is used, else

If you're specifying an INI file for TCMD (with @) it won't necessarily be the INI file for TCC; in fact it probably won't be. If that's what's happening, you'll have to take a closer look at how TCMD starts TCC (perhaps specifying an INI file in the tab's config, or in TCMD's "COMSPEC" (don't know if that can be done)).

If you're specifying an INI file for TCMD (with @) it won't necessarily be the INI file for TCC; in fact it probably won't be. If that's what's happening, you'll have to take a closer look at how TCMD starts TCC (perhaps specifying an INI file in the tab's config, or in TCMD's "COMSPEC" (don't know if that can be done)).

I had no luck using the "@" method in the 'properties > target' of the TC icon on the desktop -- Windows bitched at me that it wasn't valid. But, I just moved tcmd.ini from where it was under '\Documents and Settings\ ...' and all is well, and tcmd.ini is being used by both Take Command and TCC, because the file changes if either of the above is altered with the 'OPtions' window.

Now, I'd like to delete the '\Documents and Settings\ ... \JPSoft' folder because there's nothing in it, but Windows won't let me. But that's only a small anoyance.

Thanks David, all is clear. '@shfolder[28]' points to that path under 'Documents and Settings'. But can it be changed/removed? Or will that folder be used for something important even though it's empty right now?

Thanks David, all is clear. '@shfolder[28]' points to that path under 'Documents and Settings'. But can it be changed/removed? Or will that folder be used for something important even though it's empty right now?

Administrator

> Thanks David, all is clear. '@shfolder[28]' points to that path under
> 'Documents and Settings'. But can it be changed/removed? Or will that
> folder be used for something important even though it's empty right
> now?

That makes sense, but as long as I can put my .ini where I want it, I'll just ignore that other path. Windows is always full of empty folders anyway. It would be nice to have a doc explaining all that -- assuming there isn't one already.

Some early impressions:

- TC GUI is almost as good as Explorer, maybe better, but I miss the 'Back' button and 'Search'. The way one alternates between the command window and the folders/list window is cool but takes a bit of getting used to -- but that can't be helped.

Dimitry Andric

> That makes sense, but as long as I can put my .ini where I want it, I'll just ignore that other path. Windows is always full of empty folders anyway. It would be nice to have a doc explaining all that -- assuming there isn't one already.

1/ A desktop or quick launch shortcut to start the GUI (explorer-like)
TCMD.EXE (V9) with a specific TCMD_v9.ini, which in turn opens a
TTC.EXE (V9) tab using the specific TCC_V9.ini. The shortcut file
below would do the first part:

Command=C:\PROGRA~1\JPSoft\TCMD8\tcmd.exe
Arguments=/@D:\TakeCommand\INIs\TCMD_v9.ini
Directory=C:\Documents and Settings\Charles\
Description=Start Take Command v9.02.157
Link=C:\Documents and Settings\Charles\Application
Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch\TCMD 9.02.157.lnk
IconOffset=0
Mode=1
Hotkey
Once you have done that, you open TCMD, and use its pull-down menu
option to set up your tabs. In one of the tabs you put the command
line

Note: I operate in WinXP. I have shortcuts for different versions of
TCC and TCMD on the user desktop, most of which have a hotkey,
allowing me to start the particular version from the keyboard. All of
my hotkeys use alt-ctrl-shift as modifiers, since I have never come
across any program that uses all three of the modifiers. BTW, hotkeys
to TCC instances also restore a current instance started with the
hotkey instead of starting an additional instance (except on rare
occasion), even if the instance was running in "full screen" mode.
--
HTH, Steve

|I presume you want to set up:
|
|1/ A desktop or quick launch shortcut to start the GUI (explorer-like)
|TCMD.EXE (V9) with a specific TCMD_v9.ini, which in turn opens a
|TTC.EXE (V9) tab using the specific TCC_V9.ini. The shortcut file
|below would do the first part:

He can also put the @INIfile in TCMD's
"Options\ConfigureTCMD\Tabs\COMSPEC". That way all TCC's will use the
specified INI file automatically.

Guest

1) Can I combine the config options for both TCMD and TCC in the same file?

2) What happens if the file doesn't exist, as for using OPTION or the menus?

3) I did shortcut as you said:

Command=C:\PROGRA~1\JPSoft\TCMD9\tcmd.exe
Arguments=/@D:\TakeCommand\INIs\TCMD_v9.ini
Directory=C:\Documents and Settings\Charles\
Description=Execute Take Command v9.02.157
Link=Take Command 9.02.lnk
IconOffset=0
Mode=1
Hotkey
then opened the link, then Options, Configure Take Command, selected Complete Hidden Files, then Apply then OK. typed EXIT at the TCC prompt to close TCMD/TCC. then opened the shortcut again and the Complete hidden files was NOT selected. checked for any TCMD_v9.ini on either C or D and none were located. Not sure what is going on.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Fábián
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 05:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Support-t-1971] Re: location of .ini file

1/ A desktop or quick launch shortcut to start the GUI (explorer-like)
TCMD.EXE (V9) with a specific TCMD_v9.ini, which in turn opens a
TTC.EXE (V9) tab using the specific TCC_V9.ini. The shortcut file
below would do the first part:

Command=C:\PROGRA~1\JPSoft\TCMD8\tcmd.exe
Arguments=/@D:\TakeCommand\INIs\TCMD_v9.ini
Directory=C:\Documents and Settings\Charles\
Description=Start Take Command v9.02.157
Link=C:\Documents and Settings\Charles\Application
Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch\TCMD 9.02.157.lnk
IconOffset=0
Mode=1
Hotkey
Once you have done that, you open TCMD, and use its pull-down menu
option to set up your tabs. In one of the tabs you put the command
line

Note: I operate in WinXP. I have shortcuts for different versions of
TCC and TCMD on the user desktop, most of which have a hotkey,
allowing me to start the particular version from the keyboard. All of
my hotkeys use alt-ctrl-shift as modifiers, since I have never come
across any program that uses all three of the modifiers. BTW, hotkeys
to TCC instances also restore a current instance started with the
hotkey instead of starting an additional instance (except on rare
occasion), even if the instance was running in "full screen" mode.
--
HTH, Steve

Guest

Out of curosity I created an empty TCMD_v9.ini and TCC_v9.ini, both in D:\Takecommand\INIs\, and then entered the

C:\PROGRA~1\JPSoft\TCMD9\tcc.exe /@D:\TakeCommand\INIs\TCMD_v9.ini

in one tab and changed the tab title to be TCC-1 to see if it would work. Once I started TCMD using the shortcut below and changing a few config items using the menus, exiting TCC then starting it again - it worked. At least when I did OPTION it showed what I had changed but not when I used the menu for Configure TCC. Why would it work with OPTION but not with Configure TCC ? Is it that I have a custom config file in a seperate location?

One other thing I did notice. I have the TreePath in both v8 and v9 as D:\TakeCommand\IDX and it works in v8 but gives a "TCC: (Sys) Access is denied." error in v9. any ideas?
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Fábián
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 05:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Support-t-1971] Re: location of .ini file

1/ A desktop or quick launch shortcut to start the GUI (explorer-like)
TCMD.EXE (V9) with a specific TCMD_v9.ini, which in turn opens a
TTC.EXE (V9) tab using the specific TCC_V9.ini. The shortcut file
below would do the first part:

Command=C:\PROGRA~1\JPSoft\TCMD8\tcmd.exe
Arguments=/@D:\TakeCommand\INIs\TCMD_v9.ini
Directory=C:\Documents and Settings\Charles\
Description=Start Take Command v9.02.157
Link=C:\Documents and Settings\Charles\Application
Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch\TCMD 9.02.157.lnk
IconOffset=0
Mode=1
Hotkey
Once you have done that, you open TCMD, and use its pull-down menu
option to set up your tabs. In one of the tabs you put the command
line

Note: I operate in WinXP. I have shortcuts for different versions of
TCC and TCMD on the user desktop, most of which have a hotkey,
allowing me to start the particular version from the keyboard. All of
my hotkeys use alt-ctrl-shift as modifiers, since I have never come
across any program that uses all three of the modifiers. BTW, hotkeys
to TCC instances also restore a current instance started with the
hotkey instead of starting an additional instance (except on rare
occasion), even if the instance was running in "full screen" mode.
--
HTH, Steve

|Why would it work with OPTION but not with Configure TCC ? Is it that I have a custom config file in a seperate location?

"Configure TCC" is rather generic. You might have many TCCs running,
each with a custom INI file. Which one would be configured? It would
make sense if "Configure TCC" uses the INI file that TCMD was started
with (since the default is for them to share a INI file.