Thu. 8/29/13 12:11pm
Rich in Washington:
Jerry: Do you remember trying to take a KGON Defenders of Rock t-shirt off of some surfer-looking dude? It was my clueless friend Jay and we dragged him to a punk show and I don't think he ever went to another one after that.

Thu. 8/29/13 12:11pm
Jim Devoid:
Question for Jerry A:Was alcohol somehow involved when the ceiling of the Lismar Lounge in NY caught fire when you all played there in the early 90's?

Thu. 8/29/13 12:17pm
Cecile:
now a question for you, Diane, how was that Wrekmaster Harmonies show? Was JR Robinson all intense 'n' shit?

YEAH I LOVE THIS SONG.

Thu. 8/29/13 12:17pm
Jim:
I know they played there in the 90s..it was a big deal..a bunch of people I know went..

OH ZERO BOYS ON NOW

Thu. 8/29/13 12:19pm
Rich in Washington:
Poison Idea's Tom did a helluva radio show in the mid-80s on KBOO. Not sure if it was a regular show or if he just guested on someone else's show but it was fantastic. Maybe Jerry remembers something about it.
I still have a bunch of cassettes of it.

Thu. 8/29/13 12:21pm
Cecile:
More and more I'm getting the feeling that the old HC bands are getting the treatment the hippies gave the old bluesmen. Except the bands obviously have more control over the output. it's kind of weird.

Thu. 8/29/13 12:22pm
fred:
Dumb question, feel free to ignore: any chance of a show in Paris, France? If so, how can I make sure I hear about it?

Thu. 8/29/13 12:22pm
Rich in Washington:
@Cecile: Yeah, the Killed By Death series is like Folkways Records for Punk.

Thu. 8/29/13 12:24pm
Cecile:
Exactly. And everyone is trying to memorize the licks.

Thu. 8/29/13 12:30pm
Rich in Washington:
Green Day & Offspring sound so lame and neutered. I can't see how anyone could be excited by that. I also can't fathom the style of music now called Hardcore - that screechy screamo music. It's silly. It's the howl of some kid who got a Jetta for graduation instead of the Audi they asked for.

Thu. 8/29/13 12:33pm
Rich in Washington:
But I am old. It's like the old geezer still bitching about kids and their baggy pants.

Thu. 8/29/13 12:34pm
Stevel:
Reading "From the Velvets to the Voidoids by Clinton Heylin (Thanks to someone on this board, I believe.) Fascinating how what became "Punk" came from bands/non bands moving as far away from accepted genres and performance norms as possible. Long, endless jams and other often tedious exercises made up the foundation.

Thu. 8/29/13 12:34pm
InBrkly:
@JimDevoid: I was going to ask the same question about 924 Gilman back in 89. Everclear and a lighter nearly brought the place down. People threw wet tshirts at the rafters.

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Thu. 8/29/13 12:34pm
Ken From Hyde Park:
I have free Sirius on my car radio for the next couple of weeks. They should play some of Diane's selections instead of G 'n' R on their hard rock channels.

Thu. 8/29/13 12:40pm
Cecile:
Many of these I played on air back in the day.
Of course mixed up withe everything else you could imagine.

Thu. 8/29/13 12:40pm
Stevel:
Rich in Washington: Many best music memories for me were encountering bands who did not 'look' like they were 'supposed to'. Even though I was raised on Glam, I loved the way people fucked with or ignored image.

Thu. 8/29/13 12:41pm
Rev. Turnip Druid:
Yep, this old fart is transformed. Quite a time machine, this set. All it's missing is the crunchy drop-out of old cassette compilations that have been eaten by cheap boom-boxes too often.

Thu. 8/29/13 12:42pm
Rich in Washington:
@Cecile: I remember lots of cool kids at punk shows who just had their own look and not the stereotypical punk look until around '83 or so and then everyone started looking the same. Seems like girls stopped showing up unless they were someone's girlfriend, too.

Thu. 8/29/13 12:45pm
northguineahills:
Ciminy, I have the same dilemma as Jim. Time for food. Be back soonish.

Thu. 8/29/13 12:45pm
Cecile:
it's like the punk rulebook got codified and then it was all non-punk influences, women and gays get out. My friend disagrees, but he was in Madison where it was more politically conscious. In Detroit, that's what happened.

Thu. 8/29/13 12:45pm
fred:
Maybe we old farts need a manifesto, something we can defend from these youngsters. Woolf penned "a room of one's own", who will dare to write "a lawn of one's own", just so that we can scream at those damn kids to get off it

Thu. 8/29/13 12:46pm
Cecile:
People like the Necros, John Brannon, Die Kreuzen moved out of that pretty damn fast when it got that way.

Thu. 8/29/13 12:47pm
Cecile:
not for every show. A lot of the SST bands drew a varied crowd.

Thu. 8/29/13 12:48pm
Cecile:
And the Grumpy's 13 show was great because the girls that came with their boyfriends were probably the girls who went to HC shows solo in the 80s.

Thu. 8/29/13 12:49pm
Stevel:
Madison was interesting, and a bit mellower than other areas. Not very likely to get hurt at a show, unless you were looking for it. Girls weren't a complete rarity, but, the slam-dance floor was very much a place for adolescent male energy. There were definitely girls who held their own.

Thu. 8/29/13 12:53pm
Cecile:
Yeah. I think a lot of girls and short guys got turned off by the pit. I know I did. But standing back further ended up being better because you could actually watch the band.

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Thu. 8/29/13 12:54pm
Ken From Hyde Park:
Ugh...we're losin' it, folks. When Voivod comes on, we need to VOIVOD! !! !!! Many of the usuals must be on vacation or at lunch today.

Thu. 8/29/13 1:19pm
andy:
hearing eek a mouse made me so incredibly happy. I had a tape 20+ years ago a friend made that had eek and poison idea on it. I'm glad to see my crazy ol' friend Pete wasn't so crazy.

Thu. 8/29/13 1:20pm
Cheri Pi:
we listened to Syd Barrett all the time in the 80's along with Discharge and the gang.

Thu. 8/29/13 1:41pm
Cheri Pi:
I had to school Mr. CP the younger on dub recently- he thought i was joking when I corrected him and said, we're listening to dub not slowed down reggae. and I said it mean. LOVE!

Thu. 8/29/13 1:56pm
dinatekno:
Absolutely fantastic choice of music!! I am loving it....all the young'uns in the cubicles around me are wondering why the 50 year old wacko is headbanging like a freak. Thank you, I know I will need to purchase a neck brace this afternoon! 8')

Thu. 8/29/13 1:59pm
Veronica:
Yess, The Daily Planet. One of the best.

Thu. 8/29/13 2:27pm
fred:
Hawkwind aged better than I thought they would. I won't see them though. Not even sure when they play around here, but I'm sure it'll be way beyond what I can afford

Thu. 8/29/13 2:27pm
Rev. Turnip Druid:
I've been hooked on HW since maybe age 10, seems like they might be finally getting some recognition in the states for the first time since that '74 (?) tour. Thanks to this re-issue & such. Good time to come back to the states.

Thu. 8/29/13 2:28pm
Rev. Turnip Druid:
@fred: tickets for DC were in the 20-25 range i think. Not horribly horrible.

Thu. 8/29/13 2:35pm
fred:
@RTD: I came to HW through Moorcock, they outlasted my interest in his books. Unfortunately, I expect that range to inflate to around €50, that's usually the rate around here. I'll keep an eye out in case of a good surprise. Though I'll be spending next Saturday on a 9-hours Zorn-fest, I will probably regret those euros when they're gone

Thu. 8/29/13 2:38pm
Rev. Turnip Druid:
@fred: ah, so my aforementioned 20-25 were $USD. Haven't seen Brock & co. since '89, so I'm stupidly happy about all this. Some of Moorcock still appeals (Cornelius) but much of it hasn't been touched since teenage days.