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I liked the battle overall but the electric armor was a little stupid in my opinion. I loved Team Rockets Opera Space Motto

I have to agree with you about both things!

I loved the start of the battle indoors, the whole thing was great, teamwork was going well, and Ash was doing OK in the battle but had a good tactic by trying to use the fact that the twins. Liza and Tate weren't working in sync together until Team Rocket showed up with their funny Opera Motto.

Once they were outdoors finishing off their battle, i liked the fact that Ash was using his same great tricks against Liza and Tate. But the one thing that really annoyed me was the fact that Ash had to rely on his unrealistic strategies again... The Thunder Armour. But if it wasn't for that, this battle would have been boring with nothing epic, which most Gym battles should have.

I am going to have to give this episode a 7.6/10 Only because there was some silly unrealistic moments with the Thunder Armour and the weird trick of the double teamed Pikachu and Swellow showing us no evidence of them actually disappearing and somehow not being seen by Liza and Tate since they were outside. Because if they were outside, they twins would have been able to of seen Pikachu and Swellow trying to pull a trick and appear once Solrock and Lunatone take out all of the clones.

Last edited by Knight_Ram; 24th June 2007 at 6:36 AM.
Reason: I put down Liz, instead of Liza.

That's a grueling battle for Ash because Liza and Tate take turns battling! I don't know what's the will of their Baltoy to change the battlefield(which takes the advantage for Liza and Tate) but in the overall of the episode, it looks cool. Oh yeah, I love Tate's appearance minus that I might see him dressed like Liza. (I guess not.) Oh, Serebii, why didn't 4Kids air the next episode?

After just watching this episode I must say that it is rather humorous. Seeing the misconnection between Tate and Liza really allowed Ash to intercept and almost claim victory (can you say the shortest Gym battle ever)? Team Rockets intro was funny as well, singing in operatic style for some strange reason tickled my fancy. Also, hearing the line about the escape hatch had me in a riot. The one thing with the episode was not the second battle, but rather a part of it. That's right, Thunder Armor. A bit cheap, but the animators probably couldn't think of anything else to put in for the victory.

This was a decent Gym battle, especially right after the shuttle incident involving Max and Tate. Liza and Tate's Solrock and Lunatone were pretty tough to beat and things got really tense near the middle of the battle. Things got ridiculous near the end of the battle though. Everything from that point onwards was too convenient. Suddenly, when Pikachu and Swellow are losing, they "learned" a combo move we've never seen before and that they'll never use again? Oh please. At least they beat Solrock and Lunatone, but it was a random victory. 7/10.

Good hym battle, it was a pretty good double one. I thought Tate was actually female too because of the name and I knew someone who sometimes was called Tate (Who was a girl),.

Actually don't mind Swellow thunder armor, remember back when it was a Talliow and it kept attacking even after Pikachu's electric attack? Well if a simple Talliow can fight through it then I can imagine Swellow will able to more easily.

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This episode was good. The gym battle to me was great! Lunatone and Solrock vs Pikachu and Swellow was an interesting matchup. It was cool to see Swellow really endure all of those electric attacks and even the big Thunder attack to gain temporary golden armor with Pikachu to be able to defeat Lunatone and Solrock. It was funny when after Ash won, he hugged Swellow and Pikachu and got shocked from the electricity.

This episode was good. The battle was really cool,especially since it was a double battle. Ash seemed to struggle with this battle,just like me. When Swellow and Pikachu was hit by Thunder and they got the armour really did not make any sense what so ever. Apart from that I am glad they got the badge.

Oh, the infamous "Thunder Armor" episode. What a deus ex machina that one is. It's still the single most ridiculous thing to ever happen on this show even after all of these years. They made Tate and Liza too powerful when they were in sync and they had to get themselves out this situation one way or another. Silly writers.

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