What a good idea! Should we start lobbying? If everyone were to write a letter both to proni and their MP we might get somewhere!
Annelies
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On 30 Jun 2013, at 10:33, sean roche <seanroche1(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> hi,
> Now that N. Ireland will NOT have a 1925 Census published, how about someone suggest that PRONI use the resources they will save to publish some of the 17th Century Census substitutes e.g. Poll Tax Returns from 1660.
> The Poll Tax Rolls list the people who paid a tax levied on every person over 12 years old. They give detailed facts about individuals quite unique in surviving seventeenth century records.
>
>
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My latest post on my blog is about the family of JACKSONs who started in
Kirby Lonsdale, Westmorland, and then emigrated to post-Cromwellian
Coleraine, as well as to Armagh, Down, Antrim, Meath, Fermanagh, Cavan,
Dublin and elsewhere in Ireland
http://sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.ca/2013/06/woof-part-one.html
This is the earliest known start of a line of JACKSONs that subsequently
emigrated not only to Ireland, but also to America in the pre-Civil War
days. My hope was to give the flavour of their lives in the mid-1600s.
At the end, are links to their family tree, the timeline of their time
in Colerane, as well as some of the resources that were helpful to me in
putting their story together.
One of the costs of working solo, as I do, is that I often miss mistakes
that I have made, some of which are obvious. I always appreciate a heads
up and the chance to correct my errors.
Thanks, and enjoy,
Sharon
--
Sharon Oddie Brown,
Roberts Creek, BC, Canada.
History Project: www.thesilverbowl.com

hi,
Now that N. Ireland will NOT have a 1925 Census published, how about someone suggest that PRONI use the resources they will save to publish some of the 17th Century Census substitutes e.g. Poll Tax Returns from 1660.
The Poll Tax Rolls list the people who paid a tax levied on every person over 12 years old. They give detailed facts about individuals quite unique in surviving seventeenth century records.

WOW, what a fabulous site. Thank you - this will help with a lot of my
question.
Much appreciated.
Regards.
Patricia in Sydney
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[mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of CARELL
Sent: Saturday, 29 June 2013 11:37 AM
To: fermanagh-gold(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Old forms of Townland names.
> I think thats an extract from Place Names NI project. Looks like the same
as this page.
>
> http://www.placenamesni.org/historicforms.php?getPnameId=8069
>
Thank you so much Clive, that's the site I have been searching for.
Carole.
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Dave,
Thanks for posting the url, I had no idea there was so much of interest
written by Joyce.
And it appears all of it can be downloaded free.
Kindly,
Dee.
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Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 6:16 AM
Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Re Old forms of Townland names.
> Carole, you also have stuff like P.W. Joyce's books on archive.org about
> placenames etc
>
> http://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Joyce%2C+P.+W.+%28Patric...
>
>
> http://archive.org/stream/irishlocalnamese00joyciala/irishlocalnamese00jo...
> Gives explanation of names;
>
> E.G Lisnaskea in Fermanagh; the fort of the sceach or whitethorn tree. It
> took its name from the celebrated Sceach-ghabhra [Skagowra], under which
> the
> Maguire used to be inaugurated. etc
>
> Tempo in Fermanagh; shortened from the full Irish name an
> t-Iompodh-deisiol [an Timpo deshill], the turning from left to right.
> lompodh [impo] means
> turning ; deisiol, right handed ; and the article an prefixed takes a t in
> this case, which became incorporated with the word. The place received its
> name. no doubt, from the ancient custom of turning sunways in worship.
>
> www.logainm.ie has SOME of what you are looking for but I think it only
> covers the south of Ireland. Takes a bit of getting used to!! Change to
> English version then select county by interactive map...then select
> townlands..then any scanned data for that townland!
>
> Regards
> Dave H
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Carole, you also have stuff like P.W. Joyce's books on archive.org about placenames etc
http://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Joyce%2C+P.+W.+%28Patric...http://archive.org/stream/irishlocalnamese00joyciala/irishlocalnamese00jo... Gives explanation of names;
E.G Lisnaskea in Fermanagh; the fort of the sceach or whitethorn tree. It took its name from the celebrated Sceach-ghabhra [Skagowra], under which the
Maguire used to be inaugurated. etc
Tempo in Fermanagh; shortened from the full Irish name an t-Iompodh-deisiol [an Timpo deshill], the turning from left to right. lompodh [impo] means
turning ; deisiol, right handed ; and the article an prefixed takes a t in this case, which became incorporated with the word. The place received its
name. no doubt, from the ancient custom of turning sunways in worship.
www.logainm.ie has SOME of what you are looking for but I think it only covers the south of Ireland. Takes a bit of getting used to!! Change to
English version then select county by interactive map...then select townlands..then any scanned data for that townland!
Regards
Dave H
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This is probably a silly question but what would the recruitment area be for the Cavan militia in 1798-1816 ? I am trying to trace Hamiltons who served “until the reduction”.
Thanks for your attention
Judith

Irish Newspaper Archives has added the Fermanagh Herald: 1903–1910
Not a huge time frame covered, but someone might be interested.
You can search for free but to see the articles is (to start) 10 Euros for 24
hours.
http://www.irishnewsarchive.com/
Regards,
Christina

> Bob, you will find a few Magheracross at http://www.flickr.com/photos/52897031@N06/
> I think it is about no 16.but they are named anyway......Did take more but never put them up due to lack of interest..............John
I'm interested..... please John post more of your Magheracross photos.
I've enjoyed seeing your already posted photos, always searching
for my Salloon Moffat/it family of Magheracross and Makenny, Kilskeery.
Thanks John,
Carole Elliott.

hi Clive,
re: Personally, I'm more of the opinion its Cloghan
I am just wondering if when the woman from Fermanagh was asked where she came from, she said...
aagh (as in she hesitated)
and then said Cloghan.
Then if the scribe said Aagh where ??
and she replied Cloghan.
We then end up with Achloghan, rather than Cloghan.
Just a thought.
SEAN
> To: fermanagh-gold(a)rootsweb.com
> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 15:01:54 +0100
> From: gold(a)fermanaghroots.com
> Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Achloghan, Fermanagh
>
> To be honest no, I would put Aghaclogh down the list. (as Clogh tends to
> be a single large stone, usually holy or has local myth and legends
> attached). So Aghaclogh is more like the field of the standing stone.
> Singular.
>
> Personally, Im more of the opinion its Cloghan. There is a deliberate
> 'an' at the end, even someone not used to the Irish accent would hear this.
>
> Im also leaning more towards it being descriptive of an old ruin(someones
> or somethings), like a stone fort or something, rather than stepping
> stones in a river. Therefore Cloghan Hill sounds closer to a better match.
>
> I have no evidence to back these claims up, its just personal feeling on
> the matter. Old irish and english dont mix very well, even old irish
> with hints of Scottish mixed in for good measure.
>
> If your interested, I find this PDF a great reference for old irish to
> english translation.
>
> books.google.co.uk/books/download/A_Galic_And_English_Dictionary.pdf
>
> Bear in mind that the english is old too! Where you see an f, it could
> also be an s and vice versa!
>
> Clive

Quite possibly? Thank you
Joan Dawes
On 26 June 2013 18:35, Bob Graham <bobgraham(a)talktalk.net> wrote:
> Could it not simply be a corruption of Pettigo?
>
> Bob Graham
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joan Dawes" <dawesjm(a)gmail.com>
> To: <fermanagh-gold(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:51 AM
> Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Achloghan, Fermanagh
>
>
> > Has anybody heard of Terrigo maybe near Pettigo in Fermanagh?
> >
> > Joan Dawes
> > Sydney
> >
> >
> > On 26 June 2013 16:33, sean roche <seanroche1(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> hi,
> >> I wonder if anyone is researching the FARRELL family, and would like to
> >> make contact with someone trying to trace their Fermanagh ancestors. ??
> >> "My ancestor Ann Farrell came to Australia in 1841 as a Bounty passenger
> >> with her husband Edward Lang. On her Bounty Indent her native place is
> >> given (quite clearly) as Achloghan, Fermanagh. An exhaustive search of
> >> Fermanagh has failed to turn up such a place and I decided it was
> >> probably
> >> meant to be Aghalurcher, Fermanagh where a lot of Farrells come from".
> >> Does anyone know of another option for her place of origin ??
> >> Another bit of info."I have found a letter in Ancestry.com that stated a
> >> Ann Farrell 1820 to 1877, Married Edward in 1841, had a child on their
> >> way
> >> to Australia".
> >> Thank you for any help.
> >> SEAN
> >>
> >>
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Russ,
They may just have said they came from Enniskillen as it was the nearest
town. I would think most people came from smaller farms and villages. My
family would always say they were from Enniskillen if someone asked. Lots
of Irish went to the Pontiac. I wonder if a group went there. If others came
from a specific part of Fermanagh, maybe they did too.
Anne In Ottawa
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Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:01 PM
Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Thomas McGuire b. 1810 d, Dec.19,1890 Sarah Jane
Gregory b. 1808 d. April 18, 1863
Thomas McGuire b. 1810 d, Dec. 19, 1890 and his wife Sarah Jane Gregory. b.
1808 d. April 18, 1863 came to Canada around 1830 and eventually settled on
Allumette Island , Pontiac, Quebec.
They are both Buried at the old St Alphonsus R.C. cemetery at Chapeau on the
island.
They show up in the island tax report first in 1848. Some of their children
were born 1846 in Quebec so they were probably on the island prior to 1848.
Family tradition (letter from 1943) has them coming from Enniskillen but
there are no real source documents. I'm trying this to see if I can nail
down if they came from Enniskillen. Russ rwtjmt(a)sbcglobal.net
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Thanks John. Luckily I have a transcript and know the family.
Bob
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From: "John Boles" <johnboles(a)chemist.com>
To: <fermanagh-gold(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Magheracross Fernmanagh
> Bob, you will find a few Magheracross at
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/52897031@N06/ I think it is about no 16.but
> they are named anyway......Did take more but never put them up due to lack
> of interest..............John
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob Graham
> Sent: 06/25/13 06:21 PM
> To: fermanagh-gold(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Magheracross Fernmanagh
>
> Hi John, Would love to see it. I once had, I think, transcript to the
> Cruikshank book, but it is filed "somewhere safe" and consequently I have
> no idea where that is. Details would be appreciated. Bob Graham -----
> Original Message ----- From: <johnboles(a)chemist.com> To:
> <fermanagh-gold(a)rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 5:26 PM
> Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Magheracross Fernmanagh >I have a photo of the
> grave of a William Graham of Knockmanoul who is >buried in Magheracross,
> with a coat of arms? died 1810, most likely >methodist.if that should be
> of interest. I think he is also mentioned in >the history of methodism by
> Crookshank > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Bob Graham >> Sent:
> 06/25/13 08:40 AM >> To: fermanagh-gold(a)rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re:
> FERMANAGH-GOLD Magheracross Fernmanagh >> >> Hi Helen, >> >> I know we
> pretty much exhausted all the available data we had on William >> and >>
> Richard. However, what can you tell me about William after he arrived!
> >> 1852? >> >> Bob >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "helen
> graham" <jhelengraham(a)hotmail.com> >> To: <fermanagh-gold(a)rootsweb.com> >>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:41 AM >> Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD
> Magheracross Fernmanagh >> >> >> > >> > I am looking for information on
> James Graham born abt 1814 in >> > Enniskillen >> > He married a Mary?
> born about 1819 in Enniskillrn. >> > They had 2 sons that I know of:
> (could be more children). >> > William born 1838 in Magheracross and
> Richard born 1840 also >> > Magheracross. >> > These two boys came to
> Australia on the ship David Maciver arriving >> > 19th >> > May 1852 from
> Moderenny County Tipperary, >> > The ships passenger list says William was
> aged 20 and Richard was aged >> > 18. >> > In fact they boys were only 16
> and 12 years. >> > They were sponsored by an aunt Mrs James Hetherington
> in Woollongong >> > NSW. >> > I am trying to go further back than their
> father James Graham and find >> > out >> > about the He!
> theringtons also. >> > >> > There is an interesting fact that William
> the eldest was illiterate but >> > Richard his younger brother was
> literate. I am led to believe this has >> > some significance. >> >
> Richard went on to become an esteemed businessman in the town of >> >
> Nanango >> > Qld. >> > I do believe this Graham family was exiled from
> Scotland (probably as >> > most >> > were) and would love to make the
> connection. >> > I can't imagine their parents would send the two boys out
> on a sailing >> > ship alone but I have been unable to find out who they
> were sent with. >> > Richard had a son Alexander who was killed tragically
> in 1899 and >> > believe >> > it or not, his final resting place has just
> been discovered in an old >> > cemetery which has just been restored after
> flood damage. I would >> > love >> > to be able to present his family's
> story at the reopening. >> > >> > Any information would be appreciated. >>
> > >> > >> > Helen Graham >> > Kingaroy Queensland Australia. >> > >> > >>
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