According to NASA eggheads, the universe is still expanding, and expanding at a rate faster thanpreviously understood. (source)

For you theists, what are the theological implications here? Think about it this way: how can yougive a definitive statement about the quality of a chef and her meal if it is still cooking?

That the cosmos continues to unfold into new dimensions blows my mind; I can't wrap my headaround it. But it does speak to what we can say about God and whether or not God is immutable,or gains new knowledge; or knows the future.

I know some organization has some rules about all this, I'm not up on everybody's rules and bylaws. I left denominational congregation a long time ago.

Some force of gravity is at play that we don't understand as yet and the universe isn't eternal. As far as I'm concerned God isn't the universe so whatever the universe is doing doesn't equate to God's full nature. That's all I got for that.

According to NASA eggheads, the universe is still expanding, and expanding at a rate faster thanpreviously understood. (source)

For you theists, what are the theological implications here? Think about it this way: how can yougive a definitive statement about the quality of a chef and her meal if it is still cooking?

That the cosmos continues to unfold into new dimensions blows my mind; I can't wrap my headaround it. But it does speak to what we can say about God and whether or not God is immutable,or gains new knowledge; or knows the future.

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That the universe is expanding says nothing about God.

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God's creation not being static is a given in virtually all aspects of the universe, why would you assume this is not also true about the universe, itself?

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If God created the universe, and cannot be seen in it, then it is reasonable to assume He is outside of it. All the dimensions we perceive are part of that creation and all are within and only applicable to the universe including both physical and temporal dimenions. That they seen so vast to us within the universe says nothing about how they seem outside the universe. The internal time and distance would be nothing externally (what the universe looks like from the outside is a complete unknown to us all). There is no reason to not believe that God on the outside would be able to see all of the time and all of the distances because their nature to God is not determined by their nature to us within.

According to NASA eggheads, the universe is still expanding, and expanding at a rate faster thanpreviously understood. (source)

For you theists, what are the theological implications here? Think about it this way: how can yougive a definitive statement about the quality of a chef and her meal if it is still cooking?

That the cosmos continues to unfold into new dimensions blows my mind; I can't wrap my headaround it. But it does speak to what we can say about God and whether or not God is immutable,or gains new knowledge; or knows the future.

If you think that all things must be within our universe including God, then is wrong both within our understanding of cosmology and theology. The multiverse and consideration of what was before the big bang recognises that there are probably things outside of, and before our universe. If God is before all things were created then this is before, and outside of the universe.

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If you think that creating the universe means it must never, ever change then this is your opinion and contrary to cosmology, biology and theology. Cosmology and biology are based on change and development and theology undertands that there is growth and development as well as endings.

The rules of the universe of what we can see so far are set... the same convection that made our solar system is the same convection that gives life energy on this planet. It was only way bigger and didn't last as long. But they both function the exact same way. We can see the exact same thing happening in different stages regardless where we look. The space in the universe is expanding but galaxies don't, nor does the solar system nor do we.

If you think that all things must be within our universe including God, then is wrong both within our understanding of cosmology and theology. The multiverse and consideration of what was before the big bang recognises that there are probably things outside of, and before our universe. If God is before all things were created then this is before, and outside of the universe.

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If you think that creating the universe means it must never, ever change then this is your opinion and contrary to cosmology, biology and theology. Cosmology and biology are based on change and development and theology undertands that there is growth and development as well as endings.

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Yes, it is a contradiction.

You can't assert that God is the creator of the universe and then say the universe says nothingabout God, or, that we can't even infer things about God - the latter's not your argument, I know, but follow me here. For example: Prince does not compose a physical constituent of "Girls & Boys." Yet, that song does have qualities where we can infer characteristics of Prince as a creator or assert with some justification certain qualities about Prince: he's quirky, he was a Francophile, he enjoyed working with female recording artists, etc. To say that Prince is the author of "Girls & Boys" and then also claim that the song says nothing about Prince at all is a contra-diction for we can at least assert "Prince is a creator." So, theistically speaking, that the universe is still expanding says that God created a still emerging universe; then, we can safely assume, theistically, that God has the ability to be an emergent creator which is to say something about God, obviously.

If we say that God is the creator of this universe, we can with total justification make assertionsabout who/what God is and/or what kind of creator God is, etc. And we can with total justification make inferences about who/what God is, etc. In my opinion, that the universe is still expanding seems to signal that destiny and fate are not qualities inherent within reality or our existence, which has pretty significant implications theologically.

And I'm not even talking about the implications the many worlds theory may have on theology!

For you theists, what are the theological implications here? Think about it this way: how can yougive a definitive statement about the quality of a chef and her meal if it is still cooking?

That the cosmos continues to unfold into new dimensions blows my mind; I can't wrap my headaround it. But it does speak to what we can say about God and whether or not God is immutable,or gains new knowledge; or knows the future.

The theological implications to me as a Christian is that we will have all of eternity to explore God's mind blowing creation.

If you think that all things must be within our universe including God, then is wrong both within our understanding of cosmology and theology. The multiverse and consideration of what was before the big bang recognises that there are probably things outside of, and before our universe. If God is before all things were created then this is before, and outside of the universe.

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If you think that creating the universe means it must never, ever change then this is your opinion and contrary to cosmology, biology and theology. Cosmology and biology are based on change and development and theology undertands that there is growth and development as well as endings.

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Yes, it is a contradiction.

You can't assert that God is the creator of the universe and then say the universe says nothingabout God, or, that we can't even infer things about God - the latter's not your argument, I know, but follow me here. For example: Prince does not compose a physical constituent of "Girls & Boys." Yet, that song does have qualities where we can infer characteristics of Prince as a creator or assert with some justification certain qualities about Prince: he's quirky, he was a Francophile, he enjoyed working with female recording artists, etc. To say that Prince is the author of "Girls & Boys" and then also claim that the song says nothing about Prince at all is a contra-diction for we can at least assert "Prince is a creator." So, theistically speaking, that the universe is still expanding says that God created a still emerging universe; then, we can safely assume, theistically, that God has the ability to be an emergent creator which is to say something about God, obviously.

If we say that God is the creator of this universe, we can with total justification make assertionsabout who/what God is and/or what kind of creator God is, etc. And we can with total justification make inferences about who/what God is, etc. In my opinion, that the universe is still expanding seems to signal that destiny and fate are not qualities inherent within reality or our existence, which has pretty significant implications theologically.

And I'm not even talking about the implications the many worlds theory may have on theology!

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It is not a contradiction unless you are trying to read something into the particular characteristic that the universe is expanding. To play with your analogy - Girls and Boys is 3:27 - This says nothing about Prince.

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Why do you think that the universe expanding means destiny and fate are not qualities inherent within our reality?

Life on other planets in other solar systems would have a God made in their own image, and who knows what that would be like.

But Jehovah should be satisfied with being the God of our solar system.

Our solar system is awesome.

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If each planet's gods are creations only in the minds of intelligent life on that planet, then there are two possibilities, neither of which will make that god, a god only of that solar system.

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1 Intelligent life cannot create a real god by imagination, therefore it does not exist outside of those people's minds at all and it will not be the god of that solar system or anything and it will not be able to be satisfied or dissatisfied or anything.

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2 Intelligent life can create a real god by imagination, therefore that god is only limited by imagination and not the location of the minds that creates it. If we can create a real god able to be the god of Pluto and all the other off-world objects in our solar system where there are no human minds simply by our imaginations, then we can imagine and create a real god able to be the god of the universe.

Life on other planets in other solar systems would have a God made in their own image, and who knows what that would be like.

But Jehovah should be satisfied with being the God of our solar system.

Our solar system is awesome.

If each planet's gods are creations only in the minds of intelligent life on that planet, then there are two possibilities, neither of which will make that god, a god only of that solar system.

1 Intelligent life cannot create a real god by imagination, therefore it does not exist outside of those people's minds at all and it will not be the god of that solar system or anything and it will not be able to be satisfied or dissatisfied or anything.

2 Intelligent life can create a real god by imagination, therefore that god is only limited by imagination and not the location of the minds that creates it. If we can create a real god able to be the god of Pluto and all the other off-world objects in our solar system where there are no human minds simply by our imaginations, then we can imagine and create a real god able to be the god of the universe.

I don't think Jehovah is God of the universe.

As I stated before, I think that our solar system is plenty big enough for Jehovah to manage.

And if the Universe is expanding, it is not Jehovah's doing, but probably someone higher up.

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Life on other planets in other solar systems would have a God made in their own image, and who knows what that would be like.

But Jehovah should be satisfied with being the God of our solar system.

Our solar system is awesome.

If each planet's gods are creations only in the minds of intelligent life on that planet, then there are two possibilities, neither of which will make that god, a god only of that solar system.

1 Intelligent life cannot create a real god by imagination, therefore it does not exist outside of those people's minds at all and it will not be the god of that solar system or anything and it will not be able to be satisfied or dissatisfied or anything.

2 Intelligent life can create a real god by imagination, therefore that god is only limited by imagination and not the location of the minds that creates it. If we can create a real god able to be the god of Pluto and all the other off-world objects in our solar system where there are no human minds simply by our imaginations, then we can imagine and create a real god able to be the god of the universe.

I don't think Jehovah is God of the universe.

As I stated before, I think that our solar system is plenty big enough for Jehovah to manage.

And if the Universe is expanding, it is not Jehovah's doing, but probably someone higher up.