One thing writers agree on: Belichick is league’s best coach

ESPN.com’s football staff have found a productive way to spend their lockout hours by creating “Power Rankings” for every NFL position, as composed by the site’s eight divisional bloggers.

(Although we’ve never really understood why they are called “bloggers” and not reporters. They all come from newspaper backgrounds and don’t work out of their mom’s basement. Unlike the professional amateurs here.)

The group hasn’t come up with a unanimous decision at any position until they ranked the head coaches. Everyone agreed that Bill Belichick was the league’s best. Mike Tomlin finished second, with Andy Reid, Mike McCarthy, Sean Payton, and Tom Coughlin rounding out the top six.

Belichick has the most Super Bowl rings of the group, but we think he’s being rewarded for consistency. A team hasn’t finished with a better record than the Patriots in the AFC East since 2000. (New England missed the playoffs a few times by losing tiebreakers.) That’s a run of consistency in an up-and-down league only rivaled by the Colts over the last decade.

Many folks said the Patriots’ run was “over” after Baltimore destroyed them in the playoffs after the 2009 season, but the team responded by going 14-2 with a young team in 2010 before going down in flames to the Jets in the playoffs.

We personally would have moved Sean Payton a little higher on the list and Lovie Smith a little lower (he was No. 8), but it’s hard to argue too much with the top ten.

As the best coach, Bill will tell you – it is a package deal. From top to bottom this is the best franchise in the NFL. Bill could not do it with out Bob Kraft or the quality of his staff and players.
Undoubtably, Bill Belichick is the best but I’m not sure how he would do somewhere else.
But as long long time Patriots fan, I want to say thanks to the “best coach” and to the Kraft family for bringing us a decade of GREAT football.
Thank you Coach Belichick.

hawkeye6 says:
Apr 5, 2011 1:27 PM
Belichick is an excellent coach, but his recent failings in the playoffs should be a red flag to his owner. Not one playoff victory in his last 3 visits (4 years) to the playoffs.

I don’t care about rankings, and I respect what Belichick and the Patriots have done last decade, but Mike Tomlin, Mike McCarthy and others have accomplished more with less in recent seasons.

Ranking coaches, players, etc., is just filling time during this lockout.

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Hawkeye, I suggest you go back and look closely at the stat you displayed. They are 2-3 the last three trips to the playoffs. Not 0-3.

@bfridley That’s nice, but the Patriots have still won 3 Superbowls since the Ravens last one lol. Glad you still remember.

chargerdillon says:Apr 5, 2011 1:42 PM

Saying that Belichick is the best coach is just garbage, it’s like dumbass Raiders fans talking about how glorious and great their franchise is when they haven’t won anything in 20 years.

Dont get me wrong, Belichick is one of the best coaches ever, hall of fame bound, still one of the absolute best coaches in the NFL. But he hasn’t won anything in awhile and there’s a lot of great coaches who have done better jobs in the last 5 years to deserve the title of best coach RIGHT NOW.

If i’m going to pick one coach who deserves this title, Rex Ryan in back to back years has taken his team 1 game away from the superbowl. Likewise Mike Tomlin has shown that he’s been nothing but consistent in keeping the Steelers franchise as good as any other.

The only reason anybody makes this distinction for Belichick is that he’s won Superbowls in the past. I’d say with the way the Packers are built, McCarthy deserves the nod for best coach RIGHT NOW.

techstar25 says:Apr 5, 2011 1:47 PM

I might have put Raheem Morris in that top 10. He won 10 games with the youngest team in the league, starting more rookies than any team in NFL history, and then finished second in Coach of the Year honors.
Those writers apparently have REALLY short memories.

Seriously, the NFL’s #1 defense (2009) in Pgh and the #1 defense (2010) in Green Bay.
Where exactly were Tomlin and McCarthy lagging behind?
Patriots, 14-2 with no-names at virtually every posistion, still managed the league’s #1 offense. Two undrafted RB’s, 2 Rookie TE’s, and the team traded its best offensive skill player 4 weeks into the season.

Let’s face it: there are 31 losers and 1 winner in the NFL every season. Belichick has struggled in the postseason of late but he’s also done plenty of winning in the not-so-distant past….and is probably not finished.

robzar says:Apr 5, 2011 1:51 PM

Duh, Winniiiiiiiiiing!!!!!!!!!!!!

profootballwalk says:Apr 5, 2011 1:54 PM

Last year was huge for Belichick’s reputation with writers. First, most of them had the Jets winning the division, and some even had the Dolphins ahead of the Patriots – how did that work out? Then, Belichick – who got Moss for a fourth round pick, kicked him to the curb and got back a third round pick (!) and the team actually improved on offense. And of course, Moss flamed out, while a lot of writers said he would help the Vikings, and some Nimrods actually said he’d be great for the Titans.

The Moss deal along, along with starting multiple draft choices last year, put BB over the top for the writers – they just couldn’t believe what they were seeing. It’s called genius.

This should have been a list of the top-7 coaches, because 8-10 are NOT in the same league as 1-7.

ampats says:Apr 5, 2011 1:55 PM

Funny how everyone points out how the Patriots have not won another Super Bowl since 2004.

Forget the fact that BB is rebuilding the Patriots while maintaining a playoff calibur team that has only missed the playoffs 2 times since 2002 losing on tiebreakers ( not because of a 7-9 or 8-8 season)

We also know how TB has not won a SB since spygate. Too bad he has only won 2 MVP’s in the last three seasons he has played.

And BFRidley,

What have the Ravens done since 2000? Ravens which most projected to win it all CHOKES AGAIN to the Steelers

Yes because Rex Ryan who hasn’t won anything as the coach of the Jets is a better coach.. right? In the last 5 years Belichick has lost a total of 16 games out of 80 regular season games. 1 of those season without his starting QB, one of those seasons going undefeated, and all with a different group of people each year. The only constants in those 5 years are the head coach and quarterback. I’d say he’s pretty good…

TurdSandwich says:Apr 5, 2011 2:01 PM

Remember this name: MIKE MUNCHAK!

tednancy says:Apr 5, 2011 2:01 PM

BB is the best and all who say otherwise have homer agendas to push, which is sad.

And chargerdillon, you blow your whole argument to hell when you suggest that Rex Ryan should be No. 1.

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and confirm it.

chapnastier says:Apr 5, 2011 2:02 PM

Andy Reid is the poster boy for mediocrity. No surprise this game from the geniuses at ESPN.

tednancy says:Apr 5, 2011 2:05 PM

bfridley says: Apr 5, 2011 1:22 PM

BALTIMORE DESTROYED THEM IN THE PLAYOFFS

…good to see everyone remembers…

Also, Baltimore was the closest to ruining their perfect regular season… and they sucked that year…

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BALTIMORE STOLE THE BROWNS AFTER IT COULDNT KEEP THE COLTS AND IS A CITY OF HYPOCRITES AND CRIMINALS

How the glorified timeout coordinator Mike Tomlin gets on that list is beyond me. He has nothing to do with the offense, and certainly isn’t more important than Dick Lablitz to that defense. Tomlin walked into a job with all the pieces set up for him to succeed, how does that make him a top coach in the league?

commoncents says:Apr 5, 2011 2:12 PM

bfridley says: BALTIMORE DESTROYED THEM IN THE PLAYOFFS

Hey bfridley, whats your point? Baltimore won a game, probably their biggest win in years, but what else have they won??? nothing. Are you arguing for harbaugh as a better coach?? That’s a joke!!

I think Baltimore fans are alot like the Ravens, full of hot air and attitude but not much else.

I am sure he could care less but I agree, hands down, Belichick is the best in the buisness, bar none.

chargerdillon says:Apr 5, 2011 2:13 PM

It’s amazing the Patriots can be considered one of the most talented teams by EVERYBODYS estimation yet dumbass Pats fans will say something like the Patriots have “no-names at virtually every position” really? A bunch of no-names?

I have no problem giving credit where credit is due which is why i originally said many positive things about Belichick, but lets make one thing clear about the Patriots. The Patriots WERE EXPECTED to be good, they WERE EXPECTED to have the record they did, and they WERE EXPECTED to do that because of a roster full of talent.

Talk about a team of no-names who performed well, you’re talking about the Bucs. That’s putting credit where credit is due

endzonezombie says:Apr 5, 2011 2:20 PM

It’s revealing to see that many of the posters on this site are Patriot fans. That explains the heard behavior for the thumbs up on many foolish posts here.

dbellina says:Apr 5, 2011 2:25 PM

He’s got nothing on Brad Childress. Oh wait, never mind.

endzonezombie says:Apr 5, 2011 2:33 PM

Only ESPN bothered to even print this survey on its website. And the report of it was done in the AFC East blog – not really an ESPN story.

so Lovie should be ranked lower because he proved you geniuses at pft wrong by going 11-5 and winning the division? oh wait I forgot it’s always a weak division if the bears win it right? again it is not the bears fault they beat the teams you “experts” thought were going to be so great.

tv426 says:Apr 5, 2011 2:37 PM

Remind me again how many playoff victories NE has since they were exposed for cheating?

Oh yeah, Rexy deserves it from top to bottom. He is number one with the biggest mouth and nicest feet.
You judge his credibility on TWO YEARS?? Get real. Let see what he does next year.
He may be a motivator but not even close to the best coach.
Kiss his rings Rex – he deserves it.

combine Belichick & Peyton and the rest of the league will go into a self-imposed lockout

annnann says:Apr 5, 2011 2:48 PM

Not a Pariots fan, but it is hard to argue against the #1 spot for Belichick. It’s really is amazing what he has done, if you put your biases aside. I think McCarthy is the man, did a hell of a job with GB this year with all the injuries they had, and basically had to win playoff games on the road all the way through to the SB. Sean Payton is great too, came with Drew in 2006 and took over a 3-13 team. Been to 2 NFCCG and a has SB win. Overall, can’t disagree much with that list.

jimr10 says:Apr 5, 2011 2:53 PM

I agreed until i saw that it was the world wide leader in mis-information.

gairzo says:Apr 5, 2011 2:53 PM

The best coach in the league has the most talent. With a lesser QB OLs and DLs, receivers and defense Belichik ain’t any better than anyone.

When he was successful earlier in the decade, he cheated, willfully and repeatedly after being warned by the league more than once.

Hate me for it, minimize it, but them’s the facts boys.

How many Super Bowls and play-off games has the Cheater won since he stopped knowing what other teams were going to do?

@tv426 They went undefeated the next year besides the Superbowl and have a better winning percentage since then. Remind me again how many playoff victories every other team has had since then? Last time I checked every team did what the Patriots did, most coaches admitted it and ex-coaches said other teams did it as well. Spygate jokes don’t hold weight anymore, sorry.

rumorhater says:Apr 5, 2011 2:56 PM

It’s funny how “winners” like chargerdillon have the nerve to talk about other fans and other teams-like when was the last time the Lightning Bolts have won anything?

For all of the huffing an puffing about “GENIUS” coach is only as good as his quarterback.

Shanahan and Belichick are below average coaches without Elway and Brady.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that. I worship at the altar of Chuck Noll and he was not that great without Bradshaw and likewise Landry without Staubach.

It comes down to – IMO – When you DO have a great QB can you beat the other teams that have great QBs?

Belichick = YES
Shula = NO

kate773 says:Apr 5, 2011 3:02 PM

chargerdillon says:
Apr 5, 2011 2:13 PM
It’s amazing the Patriots can be considered one of the most talented teams by EVERYBODYS estimation yet dumbass Pats fans will say something like the Patriots have “no-names at virtually every position” really? A bunch of no-names?

I have no problem giving credit where credit is due which is why i originally said many positive things about Belichick, but lets make one thing clear about the Patriots. The Patriots WERE EXPECTED to be good, they WERE EXPECTED to have the record they did, and they WERE EXPECTED to do that because of a roster full of talent.

Talk about a team of no-names who performed well, you’re talking about the Bucs. That’s putting credit where credit is due

Before last season, who predicted them to have a record of 14-2? How many predicted them to win the division? No really, I’m curious. Because here in NE, where you’d think people would be homers, they were EXPECTED to be 8-8 at worst, 10-6 at BEST.
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tv426 says:
Apr 5, 2011 2:37 PM
Remind me again how many playoff victories NE has since they were exposed for cheating?

Remind me what their overall record has been, instead of just the playoffs? That’s probably a better sample size, and would reflect a truer picture of how good they are.

34bo34 says:Apr 5, 2011 3:12 PM

They forgot the rest of the statement.

“One thing writers agree on: Belichick is league’s best coach, WHO HAS TO CHEAT TO WIN”

Its funny how ever since he has been exposed for the cheat that he is, the Pats haven’t been quite as dominating!

@gairzo Yawn. Every team did what the Patriots did. I can bet my life that your favorite team did it as well. Guess what? After we got “caught” we have a better winning %, undefeated regular season, and Tom Brady’s been MVP of the league twice. If cheating is the only reason we won, how come we didn’t win w/ Bledsoe at QB? Stop being so delusional.

Reuben, my bad. I meant 0-3 in the last 3 games, as stated so many times.

No offense to Patriot fans, I think it’s the best franchise in the league, and the best team in the last decade. To say Belichick is the best coach today is difficult to validate since a guy like Tomlin have won two Superbowls, appeared in a third, etc.

Belichick has to win another Superbowl to get out of that stigma that he’s a cheater, etc. I don’t like it when I hear that excuse (he cheated, blah blah blah), but the sad reality is that he’ll shut up everyone who thinks that with another big SB win.

Until then, Tomlin, McCarthy, and all of a sudden guys like Rex Ryan and Jim Harbaugh are starting to out do Belichick. The last two leave room for improvement, and I’m not saying they’re better, but the above list is heavily influenced by what BB did in 2001-2004. It’s 2011 now.

Right now, I’d put Pittsburgh on top of that list (really what are we basing this on – it’s largely influenced by the franchise and how well the organization is run).

That’s true, I suppose, if you don’t consider 51 victories, a .797 win percentage, three division titles and a trip to the Super Bowl not winning anything. I’m pretty sure fans of any team other than the Green Bay Packers, New Orleans Saints, Pittsburgh Steelers and New York Giants gladly would trade their past four years for the Patriots’ so-called embarrassments.

And I’m guessing fans would find ways to justify those three Lombardi Trophies if their teams were in the Patriots’ situation. “

This list and ranking theme which was started by BSPN in the 80’s is waaaaaaay over blown.

Can we stop with the subjective, “this water is wetter than that water” comparisons and mindless rankings? All you do is repeat the w-l column in some way shape or form. I mean who is to say which coach is better? There is a GROUP of top coaches, but to say with a straight face that one is better than the others is to argue why oreo’s are better than chips ahoy. They both are good and have their fans. Can’t you live without a CPA version of the world being laid out for your two dimensional brain to digest it?

Next up, ranking days of the week, followed by ranking your toes. Which toe is better?

Actually, they do. Just not to Patriots fans. You should just accept that the legacy is tarnished in everyone’s eyes except Pats fans. And your comment would tell me that at some point in time you acknowledge they did hold weight. What’s changed, besides time?

JSpicoli says:Apr 5, 2011 3:47 PM

madtolive5 says:
Apr 5, 2011 1:38 PM
Anyone who thinks any HC is the best coach in the NFL is completely biased or an idiot.

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Fixed your post.

theguywhotoldtimtebowtoshutthefup says:Apr 5, 2011 3:55 PM

Translation: Writer’s voted for a guy who they wikipedia’d & saw he had the best stats & most rings, but outside of that knew nothing else. I’m not arguing that that isn’t damn good credentials (and worthy of “leagues best coach”), however, I would put more stock in the opinion of coaches, players, & agents, than that of the opinion of writers. Writers are as much in the dark, as to who coaches really are (outside of their media persona), than us fans.

Deb says:Apr 5, 2011 3:58 PM

Completely agree with the top two, in that order. But McCarthy should have been third and Payton fourth. Nothing personal against Andy Reid, but he was ranked a little too high.

Would have omitted Shanahan. Not sure he still has it–or that he ever would have had it without Elway.

A good coach is one who the players respect. Do they want to play for the man? What is their opinion after life with the coach? BB fares at the top in this area. If you do your job, you will play in the game. It does not matter if you joined the team as a #1 pick or an undrafted rookie you will be given the opportunity to earn playing time. The formula is hardly a secret.

Belichick is hands down the best head coach today in the NFL. That’s not to say, of course, that he’s the best head coach in NFL history. He is not—not yet, at least. But more than any single NFL head coach today, he arguably shoulders more responsibilities while, at the same time, consistently exceeding performance expectations. Nobody does a better job at game planning, managing the draft, in-game decision making, team cost management, etc. This stale and tiresome harping re: past videotaping speaks volumes about his critics. In truth, they’re envious and aren’t even honest enough to admit it. After all, these same folks wouldn’t hesitate to grab him as their own, if given the chance. Just ask the Jets, who are still smarting after that 1999 “I resign as HC of the NYJ” jilting.

gairzo says:Apr 5, 2011 4:02 PM

Hey ButtkissMyDick…

gairzo Yawn. Every team did what the Patriots did. I can bet my life that your favorite team did it as well. Guess what? After we got “caught” we have a better winning %, undefeated regular season, and Tom Brady’s been MVP of the league twice. If cheating is the only reason we won, how come we didn’t win w/ Bledsoe at QB? Stop being so delusional.
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Brady’s MVP status is just as much reason for NE’s success as any thing BB does–you’re parroting what I say in my post.

See, we can agree on some things.

You have no proof any other team “Bellichicked” the signals of any opponent. That’s minimizing–not to mention delusional. If NE fans had any proof, we’d have seen it by now.

Another delusion: I never said cheating was the only reason you won. In fact, in my post I say the team with the most talent usually wins. I’ll also say BB is one of the finest talent evaluators out there. He knows what players fit his system best and he goes after them.

That doesn’t, never will negate the fact he cheated, despite repeated warnings from the league. (That alone attests to the value of the info he stole.) Think about it.

That automatically taints the whole genius label his fans want to stick him with. But, BB’s cheating does not mean he’s doesn’t have great skills as a coach.

@crownofthehelmet What’s changed since then was the winning % went up, Tom Brady has been the league MVP twice getting 99/100 votes, and other coaches have come out and admitted to doing the same thing.

kelvinmchale says:Apr 5, 2011 4:19 PM

Anyone who is still reading these comments down here either really likes or dislikes Belichick. I guarantee the haters would have him coach their team in a heartbeat if he was available. Jealous!

bsizemore68 says:Apr 5, 2011 4:23 PM

I vote for Miami head coach as the best of the best. I learn that from my friends who voted for Bush. Bill

CKL says:Apr 5, 2011 4:30 PM

citizenstrange says: Apr 5, 2011 2:58 PM

For all of the huffing an puffing about “GENIUS” coach is only as good as his quarterback.

Shanahan and Belichick are below average coaches without Elway and Brady.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that. I worship at the altar of Chuck Noll and he was not that great without Bradshaw and likewise Landry without Staubach.

It comes down to – IMO – When you DO have a great QB can you beat the other teams that have great QBs?

Belichick = YES
Shula = NO
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Firstly, I cannot compare any coach like Noll who while very good and one of the best of his time was able to retain as much of his team’s talent as his owner would pay for. In the FA era, coaching acumenis even more important because you have more player variables.

Beichick won a playoff game with Testeverde in Cle (their last playoff win…still) and put up an 11-5 record with a very, very inexperienced QB in Cassel (and a mediocre D so that side didn’t carry them)so I think that’s a bit unfair of a critique.
I’ll say of BB what HE says when he’s asked if Brady’s the best…”there’s no one I’d rather have”. If I was forced to pick another coach I would probably say Payton or Mikey Mac which is against my nature because I normally prefer defensive HCs.

As far as “genius” goes, I will paraphrase what BB’s own father used to say when told his son was a genius,
” Geniuses do not walk the sidelines of football fields”. I loved Steve B.

How can you tell this ranking is accurate? Because as a group the sports writers pretty much hate/dislike Belichick. He never gives them meaningful information, he doesn’t allow his assistants to talk to the media, and his players are on a very short leash – just ask Wes Welker. And yet they still have found after looking at the body of work he has put up in the past decade that he has no peer in the league.

Sorry haters, but facts are facts.

crownofthehelmet says:Apr 5, 2011 4:49 PM

ButkisMyDick says:
Apr 5, 2011 4:12 PM
…..the winning % went up, Tom Brady has been the league MVP twice getting 99/100 votes, and other coaches have come out and admitted to doing the same thing.
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Ohhh, I didn’t know all of that. You’ve changed my mind – because Brady has had some success post spygate, then there’s no way their cheating helped them win SBs before they were caught.

And here all this time I couldn’t figure out why BB would cheat if there was no advantage to it. He was just keeping up with the Joneses. Must be bad luck that he was the only one disciplined for it.

kelvinmchale says:Apr 5, 2011 4:50 PM

Btw, I’ve heard that Belichick not only reads but sometimes comments on these PFT stories.

grpatriot says:Apr 5, 2011 4:51 PM

Feel the love!!!!!!

thefiesty1 says:Apr 5, 2011 4:57 PM

He is a good coach but not the best. McCarty, Tomlin, and a couple of others are a better coach. Belicek is lunacy he has a decent team. He wasn’t that great when he was with the Browns.

34bo34 says:Apr 5, 2011 5:07 PM

@ButkisMyDick , so how many superbowls has he won since? Accept the facts, hes a cheater and nobody will ever believe that his football knowledge was the only reason for the 3 rings, unless your a pats fan.

denverwally says:Apr 5, 2011 5:09 PM

Just to make it interesting, I cut the following from an article I read on another website…
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The NFL never would outlaw stealing signals.

It’s not against the rules, so dwelling on that shows a misunderstanding on your part.

The violation was using a video camera on the sideline. That’s it. Stealing signs wasn’t the issue.

I don’t know if you know, but teams still videotape.

Goodell has softened his language because it’s clear he blew it earlier by making the issue more than it was. A smaller fine and later pick would have sent the same message with all the hysteria.

Note SI 2002, “Our guy keeps a pair of binoculars on their signal-callers every game,” says Broncos coach Mike Shanahan. “With any luck, we have their defensive signals figured out by halftime. Sometimes, by the end of the first quarter.”

Is that cheating?

Jimmy Johnson, “When I came into the NFL, back in ’89, I talked to a Kansas City scout and he said, ‘Here’s what we do, we videotape the opposing team’s signals and then we synch it up with the game film.’ So I did it.”

Do you want the Cowboys SBs taken away?

Editor’s Note: Lloyd, thanks for the comment. You help to document that this is, indeed, a wider problem than just Belichick and the Patriots. Apparently this taping of signals has been somewhat common in the NFL. So, there are really two choices.

One, the NFL could simply make it legal. ..

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The article goes on to discuss what should be done, but its a non-issue anymore as they use radio’s to communicate with the defense now.

Sort of takes the steam out of all the Belichick haters… also, Bill Cowher said publically that it never mattered as they would change their signals every quarter. Every coach in the league either taped or knew taping was happening and if they didn’t alter their signals during the game, they were too stupid to coach in the NFL.

denverwally says:Apr 5, 2011 5:22 PM

A few more items related to my previous post:

Jimmy Johnson:

“I always assumed I was being spied on, or taped, from somebody in the press box.”

“Oh please. I’ve said it on our show. Eighteen years ago a scout for the Chiefs told me what they did, and he said what you need to do is just take your camera and you go and zoom in on the signal caller and that way you can sync it up. The problem is that if they’re not on the press box side you can’t do it from the press box, you have to do it from the sideline. This was 18 years ago.”

“Oh yeah, I did it with video and so did a lot of other teams in the league. Just to make sure that you could study it and take your time, because you’re going to play the other team the second time around. But a lot of coaches did it, this was commonplace.”

The tuck rule game is stupid if not highly questionable- that’s one.
They taped the final run-through practice of the Rams Super Bowl – no, that wouldn’t help a coach game-plan…he’s not been the best lately. Haven’t won a SB since the taping. Jake Plummer bear them.

And when his assistants leave, they bomb.

The greRS-atest? Hardly.

patriotsdefense says:Apr 5, 2011 5:40 PM

“Belichick is an excellent coach, but his recent failings in the playoffs should be a red flag to his owner. Not one playoff victory in his last 3 visits (4 years) to the playoffs. ” hawkeye6 you’re an idiot, last 3 visits to the playoffs the patriot and bb are 2-3. wins versus jaguars and chargers. losses to the gmen, ravens, and jets. awful.

metalhead65 says:
Apr 5, 2011 2:36 PM
so Lovie should be ranked lower because he proved you geniuses at pft wrong by going 11-5 and winning the division? oh wait I forgot it’s always a weak division if the bears win it right? again it is not the bears fault they beat the teams you “experts” thought were going to be so great.

^ so squeeking by a bunch of 3rd string qbs and beating the 7-9 seahawks in the playoffs before getting beat by the SUPERBOWL WINNING PACKERS is proving experts wrong?

They both went to 2 NFC title games, both won a superbowl….
What? you want Mike McCarthy to write an autobiography about chewing gum and posing for playgirl on the sidelines like sean payton and mike tomlin?

504in860 says:Apr 5, 2011 7:26 PM

They both went to 2 NFC title games, both won a superbowl….
What? you want Mike McCarthy to write an autobiography about chewing gum and posing for playgirl on the sidelines like sean payton and mike tomlin?
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Accept the facts, hes a cheater and nobody will ever believe that his football knowledge was the only reason for the 3 rings, unless your a pats fan.

Diehard Steelers fan and hate the Pats. But yeah … I believe Belichick is a great coach, and his football knowledge plus the caliber of talent he assembled–particularly at QB–is how he earned those rings. If you’re still harping on it, you’re either jerking Pat fans’ chains or clueless about the NFL and videotaping.
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axespray says:you want Mike McCarthy to write an autobiography about chewing gum and posing for playgirl on the sidelines like sean payton and mike tomlin?

Mike Tomlin wrote an autobiography about chewing gum and posing for Playgirl on the sidelines????

The Eagles have consistently choked in the playoffs how many years now? I’d say Andy Reid deserves more merit than BB if we’re going on consistency.

jrmbadger says:Apr 7, 2011 5:38 PM

This reminds me of that Cheers episode where Norm and Cliff are arguing over how many bolts hold down the floor of the boston garden and they suck McHale in.

This is a pointless bar argument.

bcgreg says:Apr 7, 2011 11:26 PM

@ gairzo

You said:

“You have no proof any other team “Bellichicked” the signals of any opponent. That’s minimizing–not to mention delusional. If NE fans had any proof, we’d have seen it by now.”

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I noticed that a couple of other people have showed you that Jimmy Johnson admitted to doing this. He said he learned it from a Chiefs scout. The Chiefs at the time had a coaching staff that included Cowher, Dungy, and Herm Edwards. When Dungy went to TB as the HC, he took along the scout that showed Johnson. So, there’s THREE teams that did it. The Cowboys, Chiefs, and Buccaneers. Also, the Jets were caught taping on the sideline in 2006 ironically in Foxboro. So, there’s FOUR teams. Is that enough?

The reason why these other examples have not been shown to help minimize the situation is because it wouldn’t benefit the NY media to do so. Also, remember that Goodell punished the Pats for what he terms as “violating the league’s videotaping policies”. He nor the league have never used the term “cheat”. Only the synchophants in the NY media and jealous fans of other teams have done so.

Ya know if you actually took the time to look into the culture of the league and some of the facts and history about the league regarding “spying”, you’d see that it was an overblown story.

Did the Pats do something wrong? Yes, they broke a rule. I find it funny that haters simply cannot understand that what was actually on the film is NOT illegal to possess. It was illegally obtained. Big difference.

rashardmendenballs says:Apr 8, 2011 9:28 PM

Belichick has been the best coach in the NFL for the past 10 years…no hate here. The only coach that comes even close to touching Belichick is Mike T in Pittsburgh.

McCarthy- He is way overrated; couldn’t be the Drew Stanton and the Detroit lions in week 15. Keep in mind, this was a must win game for them. Plus, the Packers barley made the playoffs. The Giants not showing up and the Bears deciding to not take them serious was the reason why they got in.