AverageAmericanGuy:fiver5: She should get her meat at the grocery store in shrink wrapped packages like everyone else does. Because killing animals is wrong.

This is the dumbest comment I've ever read. You know that in order to make that meat that you buy at the grocery store, that someone has to kill the animal it comes from? Just because you're buying something at the store doesn't mean that that animal wasn't slaughtered. It most definitely was.

If I had my druthers, I'd put a stop to killing animals for food. Humans are an agricultural species and don't need meat to survive.

Wow... simply wow. You really missed the sarcasm? Honestly? I mea it was dripping off that statement like STDs off Paris Hilton's sloppy joe.

sendtodave:HotWingConspiracy: Exactly. Based on market forces alone, that bear is far more valuable than that kid. There are over 7 billion humans, we're essentially worthless. Bears being far more rare, are worth a mint.

She's probably worth around $750-790k, according to humansforsale.com. Hard to say, with the whole dying thing. I substituted "High Blood Pressure," "Kidney Disease," and "AIDS" for the imminent organ failure.

Whereas big bear meat is only worth 45c.

You do the math.

I dunno man. That site can claim that, but you're not going to find anyone on this planet that would shell out 750k for a diseased kid.

Ask anyone if they'd rather have a bear, or a diseased, depressing child. She's a total money sink. The bear is just going to be out there doing bear stuff, pretty self-sufficient.

dittybopper:A bear doesn't give any continued return on investment until you exploit it, and then it's gone. A child will grow up to be an adult that can be worked, and you can make decades of profit off of them. That's why a child, though more numerous than a bear, is more valuable from the perspective of market forces.

It's even simpler than that. Get yourself a live bear, and a live 11 year old girl and auction them off separately. Let me know which one goes for more money.

What has been overlooked is the obvious underlying purpose of this supposed trophy hunt.In reality using advanced sciency stuff, doctors successfully transplanted the bears heat and liver intothe 11 year old girl. In years to come the the girls DNA will fuse with that of the bear to create a hybrid species. The "bear girl" will develop an elongated snout and a warm furry pelt. She will then flee to the forest and using her human intelligence and beast like powers she will roam the land in a one bear-girl crusade against all who hunt for sport.

The night before I got my heart transplant, when everything had gone to shiat and I was hooked up to oxygen masks, all I wanted, more than anything else, was a quarter-pounder trio from McDonalds.Dying wishes are weird./csb

DWitchiewoman:dittybopper:DWitchiewoman: Came in here to see all the little girl hate...Leaving way more freaked out that a man was seriously trying to find out if he could use his wife's hipbone as a hammer...

Not *JUST* a hammer, but one for knapping flint, perhaps as a replacement for the antler I have been using

dittybopper:Langdon_777: I am a fan of letting anyone become a member of an indigenous group (if they are accepted) but lets keep the hunting to the "damn its hard" level - not night scoping from landrovers.

I'm sort-of down with that, to a point.

I chose to go the "make it damned tough" route for myself. That's because I found it too easy with a scoped .30'06 or a super-fast compound bow. Instead of chasing after bigger and bigger trophies as a method of ramping up the difficulty, I went primitive instead.

That's not to say I advocate that it must be done that way for everyone.

Not everybody has the time, money, or inclination to make hunting as difficult for themselves as possible. Nor should they, necessarily, because then it discourages people from trying it in the first place. If you want to use a high powered rifle with a 3x9 variable range-finding scope, etc., be my guest. So long as the game regulations are written to ensure a viable (and hopefully expanding) game population, I don't even have a problem with people using night vision googles, and hunting from Land Rovers.

Personally, I love sport hunting, for the same reasons you posted above. However, I think if you hunt, its your responsibility to end the animals life in the fastest, most humane way possible. If someone wants to shoot it with flint arrows, they better be able to put that arrow through a tennis ball at hunting range+5 meters. I've spent too many hours fixing up critters that ran into bad hunters to grant moral high ground to anyone based on their tools.

IMHO, a hunter should hunt with whatever gets the job done for him. If you cant shoot a bow, but you can perform outpatient surgery with a bolt action 338, than that's what you should use.

/not implying that ditty is a bad hunter, just making a point to the antis//please don't shank me with your wife's sharpened femur. ;)

kregh99:/people that kill for fun are something this world can do without

People that kill for fun, when properly regulated, ensure that we all have wildlife to enjoy. If it weren't for sport hunters, there would be no deer, bear, or wild turkeys in the entire eastern United States, and probably fewer other species also.

Mid_mo_mad_man:seniorgato: You know, you go hunt a deer, you kill it, and process it. Then eat it.Killing a bear... You get, what? A rug?I mean, yes, if the bear is a danger, that's one thing. But I sincerely doubt a girl with a heart and liver problem was out hunting a man eater..

Wasting the meat is a crime in every state. In many places you have to pack out it before capes/antlers. Big game hunting is the largest source of protein food banks have.

Everyone is mad at her for trophy hunting. I get that. But she had to kill something in order to steal its essence and prolong her own unholy existence. Perhaps she should have killed a drifter for his organs so that she didn't have to sustain herself on souls of the innocent, but I for one applaud her for avoiding human casualties as much as she could.

sendtodave:HotWingConspiracy: Ask anyone if they'd rather have a bear, or a diseased, depressing child. She's a total money sink. The bear is just going to be out there doing bear stuff, pretty self-sufficient.

Fair point. And in some places you could put the bear in a cage, and have people pay to feed it peanuts or something. Easy money.

NannyStatePark:I name my lobsters, so I must be really messed up. The waitstaff at Red Lobster think its hilariousplay along with my lame joke because they think they'll get a better tip then make fun of me after I leave.

I guess it just seems to me that someone coming face to face with their own impending mortality might look into the eyes of a beautiful, wild animal they're about to shoot and have a profound moment of realization that even though whether she lives or dies is out of her hands, whether this living being lives or dies is in her hands, and give it the very gift she wishes for herself - a second chance.

But nope, she shot it because killing things is fun. Well little girl, do you know who else seems to like to kill for the fun of it? God. And he's aiming down his little finger-gun at you as we speak.

natas6.0:I have no argument with hunting any animal for food.Even by the genetically inferior

this is pretty ridiculous

"look what someone helped me do! I could never have ended this life on my own"

Kinda hope she sees that same bear very soonand it showes her the same mercy for the next thousand years

Why? Of the three main kinds of hunting (market hunting, subsistence hunting, and sport hunting), only sport hunting has ever lead to an *INCREASE* in game populations. Hunting for food is bad for the environment, hunting for money is bad for the environment, but sport hunting is *GOOD* for it. That's because people who hunt for fun want to continue hunting for fun, and they voluntarily spend tens of millions of dollars every year for conservation efforts to do things like preserve habitat, which benefits all species, not just those targeted.

If you like wildlife, you should be encouraging sport hunting, not denigrating it.

dittybopper:HotWingConspiracy: abhorrent1: CeroX: because she's a human, and that thing is an animal

Exactly. That animals life has far more value.

/should have dropped her in the woods and hunted her.//she's dying anyway.

Exactly. Based on market forces alone, that bear is far more valuable than that kid. There are over 7 billion humans, we're essentially worthless. Bears being far more rare, are worth a mint.

False, actually.

A bear doesn't give any continued return on investment until you exploit it, and then it's gone. A child will grow up to be an adult that can be worked, and you can make decades of profit off of them. That's why a child, though more numerous than a bear, is more valuable from the perspective of market forces.

dittybopper:A bear doesn't give any continued return on investment until you exploit it, and then it's gone. A child will grow up to be an adult that can be worked, and you can make decades of profit off of them. That's why a child, though more numerous than a bear, is more valuable from the perspective of market forces.

What if you run a circus and put the bear on a unicycle with a funny hat?

Big Ramifications:Mate, I'm quite prepared to take the other side of the argument. "let's get out of town and abandon our houses coz the bears are running out of room and it's too dangerous to stick around." Seriously.

Wow.

But, what's the point in running the world of we have to give up our stuff? Nature only exists because we want it to.

I predict that in less than a thousand years, we will have six species of lesser animals left. Three for food, two for pets, and rats. Pesky, pesky rats.

Mental gymnastics. Give me strength.

I could have gone with 'rationalization (due to cognitive dissonance)' but, eh, it's good enough for government work.

Tat'dGreaser:Heh, I love people who can't wrap their heads around humans hunting animals.

Im glad someone came up with the idea to do so. I like salad but as a side not as a main course. I see plenty of deer splattered all over the roads everyday, apparently there isn't enough hunting going on. It is sad to see all the meat get wasted when there are so many hungry people in this country. Pink slime for everyone!

fickenchucker:Comments talking about being sad for the bear and biatching about the kid hunting it is what makes me glad I actually don't know you people. And it makes me a little depressed you have the ability to breed and be considered adults.

The bear ended up as food and was deemed legal to hunt by the government agency that issued the permit, mainly due to the need to manage population density properly. Grow up and stop acting like a bunch of little girls.

Or should I downgrade that to fetuses, since it was a little girl way cooler than you who had the hunting experience of a lifetime.

sendtodave:guises: Big Ramifications: Carnivores have a range. Doesn't matter how "huge" their habitat is, once it gets too crowded then they start wandering in to towns.

This is very occasionally true for bears, although most of the time when you find a bear in town it's because it was driven there by habitat destruction rather than overcrowding. You can't generalize this to all carnivores however. North American wolves, for example, are very skittish around people, wolf attacks are extremely rare. It's a little different for European wolves, they're a little more aggressive. Cougars also stay far away from people.

Of course, "overcrowding" isn't a word that's been applicable to wolves or cougars for more than a hundred years so maybe that's moot.

That's another bit of mental gymnastics, actually.

It's wrong to go kill majestic animals! But if they come into our territory, well now, they have it coming.

Never mind that we're actually the ones encroaching on their territory.

Eh. Might as well just say "It's psychopathic to kill animals for a reason that I don't like."

~~Mate, I'm quite prepared to take the other side of the argument. "let's get out of town and abandon our houses coz the bears are running out of room and it's too dangerous to stick around." Seriously.

gmoney101:Big Ramifications: gmoney101: I'm not a hippy or anything, but I hate to see any animal killed for no reason (except mosquitoes, they make their bed when they try to bite me) even spiders that I am terrified of, I won't kill. However, if it is for food then I agree with hunting. A man that hunts his meat is no more a monster than a man who buys his meat. That said, if this family do not eat this bear, then they can all go fark themselves!And that silly prick in the comments, farking culls? Black bears are not farking rabbits, they typically have 2 cubs in a litter in 2 year cycles and the more cubs they have the greater the mortality rate in the litter. The woods are farking huge, why the hell would you need to cull? Oh for sport...

/People are coonts

I'm not pro-hunting, but that is just emotive bullshiat. Carnivores have a range. Doesn't matter how "huge" their habitat is, once it gets too crowded then they start wandering in to towns. Then it's culling time.

I need more info as to whether the kill might be justified as part of a cull.

It's 1 animal for F- sake, and she hunted it, she didn't grow it with a half a billion others crammed into a factory barn, she got out there, in the wild, and hunted... Good on her!

And fark you retards and your bleeding sympathetic hearts to the "poor black bear who never hurt anyone"

Except the people that get mauled when they go into their back yard to investigate who the hell is rummaging through their trash and find a bear staring them in the face... or worse, a cub, who's mama is right behind them...

And it's not like they are endangered, or even threatened...

I say, let the dying 11 year old girl shoot the bear... hell let her slit it's throat... I'll send her flowers, because she's a human, and that thing is an animal. It might not "deserve" it, but it's not more important than an 11 year old girl...

If my babygirl was dying, and all she wanted was to kill a majestic woodland creature before she dies, we'd be on the first plane to canada or alaska, rifles in tow...

She's my baby girl, and no animal running around in the wild is worth the smile on her face

Ya know, she's a kid with a lot of health issues, and pain, i would guess. That would be scary as hell, and you gotta feel for her. Still, I'm a little weirded-out about why a sick young kid would want to kill something so much.

Nah, sitting here thinking about it awhile, I guess if I'm gonna support hunting (and I do) I have to support this. I started off thinking of it as a last-wish sort of deal, and that would be creepy. "Before I die, I just wanna kill one more thing. . . " But it's not like that. She's just a sick young kid who wants to live her life, and in her case (and almost surely in her family), that includes hunting. I don't hunt, and my own illnesses just gave me more empathy for living things, so it seemed a little off from my perspective at first.

What kinda pissed me off was that it wasn't enough that it was a freakin' BEAR, she had to think of it as a lion. Jeez, c'mon kid, you're 11, try not to be so jaded, or you're gonna run out of apex predators kill before you can drive!

fiver5:She should get her meat at the grocery store in shrink wrapped packages like everyone else does. Because killing animals is wrong.

This is the dumbest comment I've ever read. You know that in order to make that meat that you buy at the grocery store, that someone has to kill the animal it comes from? Just because you're buying something at the store doesn't mean that that animal wasn't slaughtered. It most definitely was.

If I had my druthers, I'd put a stop to killing animals for food. Humans are an agricultural species and don't need meat to survive.

cassanovascotian:They were hungry and needed to eat. They did what they had to do. I got no problem with that.

What if they enjoyed it? Because I'm betting that they did. Immensely.

Hunter/gatherer societies put the hunters at the top of the social hierarchy. It was the most important social institution. Hunting wasn't just important because they needed to eat; they could gather stuff, grow stuff.

But that's lame. That's women's work.

Anyway, they farking loved them some hunting. Do you think they'd feel resigned to "doing what they had to do?"