I never understood one thing: was she a suporter of Napoleon? I always though that she was only married with him because she was obligated to, and that when he was exiled she became more happy!

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Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:44 pm

Therese

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She was forced to marry him, and would wipe her mouth everytime he kissed her. Yet, there seemed to have blossomed some affection between them. Yes, she left as soon as she could and made no effort to join Napoleon in exile. Josphine was planning to join him but she got sick and died.

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Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:55 am

Vittoria Francesca Savoia

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Joined: Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:41 pmPosts: 62Location: Turin, Italy

Yes I like Joséphine, too... her history is fascinating

Marie-Louise was un unlucky girl... she was forced to marry Napoleon in order to save Austria from French invasion and devastations of war, despite her anti-French and anti-napoleon upbringing.
And when Napoleon was exiled to Elba, she came back to Austria and knew the Count Neippberg who became her lover and her second husband.

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Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:13 pm

Monsieur Royale

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Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:48 pmPosts: 467Location: USA

I don't like Napolean. He has an interesting story but he is a war monger and I don't support that at all....He was only out for his own personal glory....

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Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:24 pm

ohappydagger

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Joined: Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:29 amPosts: 133Location: New Hampshire

Jules de Polignac wrote:

Do you prefer Josephine to Marie Louise?

Yes, I prefer Josephine. Josephine and Marie are my top two favorite women in history.

Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:18 am

Jean-François

Royalty

Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 1:46 amPosts: 51Location: Nevada, USA

J'adore Josephine! I have pictures of a statue of her and napolean from Versailles... if i get time ill get them uploaded for all to see. Josephine was a very interesting woman, If i remember correctly she loved the Opera, and loved to throw parties. (She had the first party ever held at the Ritz in Paris) She was a fine example of a servant leader, the people adored her, and she them.

Parvenu, Mafioso and warmonger: I couldn't agree more I do not mean to be insulting to those who admire Bonaparte, but I really do not understand.

Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:10 pm

Therese

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Merteuil wrote:

Parvenu, Mafioso and warmonger: I couldn't agree more I do not mean to be insulting to those who admire Bonaparte, but I really do not understand.

I never understood either. And yet we must constantly hear Bonaparte extolled as a hero, and Louis XVI called a weak king, when Louis XVI showed great courage when faced several times by the mob whereas Napoleon fled when he had no more soldiers to protect him.

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Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:19 pm

Pimprenelle

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Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:54 amPosts: 2040

The problem is that, for French people nowadays, France became with the revolution. Their Marseillaise refers to the revolution, and their three colours also, their Marianne... as if there were nothing before the revolution.

All that existed before July 14th, 1789 is prehistory !

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Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:26 pm

Merteuil

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Joined: Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:31 amPosts: 89Location: London, UK

The Revolution, and Bonaparte immediately after, happened at a time when there was more means to spread propaganda than ever before. I think that provides at least a partial explanation to the enduring reputations of the Old Regime as the dark ages, Louis and Antoinette as a weakling and an airhead and those who succeeded as heroes.

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