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Caught up with the first episode back after the break and it was .. ok. It appears Episode 12 in two weeks will be the one to watch out for. I'll spoiler this, but it's only really the brief summary from TVMaze ..

When Cal is discovered missing from his bedroom, Grace and Ben launch a desperate search which takes them to the remote mountains of upstate New York. A tantalizing trail of breadcrumbs leads them to a startling, game-changing discovery. Meanwhile, Michaela confronts the deceptive Autumn, and the shadowy "Major" finally makes an appearance.

I'm still in to the show and the story, but I think if Episode 12 doesn't sufficiently up the stakes and give some answers, I could see me drifting a bit.

Is Fiona going to turn out to be the Major. She and the Pilot could have ended up back in time and that is why we haven't seen the Major yet, she couldn't show herself until current Fiona disappeared or it would have led to a Primer situation or a paradox.

I watched the latest episode earlier on. Spoilers if you don't want to wait until you watch it later.

The Major isn't anyone who's been on the show - completely new character.

The "game changing discovery" is the man from Michaela's vision who arrives at the log cabin where Cal goes and he claims he left two weeks previously, but they find out he's been gone over a year, and there's also an implication that he's from another timeline as well as he keeps saying Michaela had died[/spoilers]

I watched the latest episode earlier on. Spoilers if you don't want to wait until you watch it later.

The Major isn't anyone who's been on the show - completely new character.

The "game changing discovery" is the man from Michaela's vision who arrives at the log cabin where Cal goes and he claims he left two weeks previously, but they find out he's been gone over a year, and there's also an implication that he's from another timeline as well as he keeps saying Michaela had died[/spoilers]

He only says she died as she and the plane had been missing for 4 years from his point of view.

I watched the latest episode earlier on. Spoilers if you don't want to wait until you watch it later.

The Major isn't anyone who's been on the show - completely new character.

The "game changing discovery" is the man from Michaela's vision who arrives at the log cabin where Cal goes and he claims he left two weeks previously, but they find out he's been gone over a year, and there's also an implication that he's from another timeline as well as he keeps saying Michaela had died[/spoilers]

He only says she died as she and the plane had been missing for 4 years from his point of view.

Which basically confirms that he's been "gone" for a year and also still implies another timeline if Michaela is dead.

I think i'd seriously consider coming back for a second season (if it gets one) if they start on time travel, wormholes and alternate timelines.

I'm starting to think we're dealing with a "Fringe event" style phenomenon here...
Here's my new theory: The Major and her co-conspirators in the government/military carried out a time-travel experiment using Dark Lightning, which had disastrous consequences and caused a rift in the space-time continuum or whatever. The rift is now spreading and causing the Dark Lightning to spontaneously jump people and entire planes through time.

Flight 828's disappearence was just the start. There will be many more "vanishings" to come as the rift spreads further and the Dark Lightning causes more time-jumps across the world.

This could explain how Zeke time-hopped 1 year into the future in a seperate incident to 828. The time-jumping seems to occur during extreme weather (as we witnessed with 828 and the sudden storm surge), so it makes sense that Zeke was caught in a blizzard when he disappeared.

This might also explain why the government were covering up 828's disappearance the day the passengers vanished because they knew about the rift/Dark Lightning.

I like that theory a lot, although going forward, it does make me wonder how they'd deal with it. I suppose the idea of going back to prevent the plane taking off would be one thing, and you'd still be able to have the major as the main antagonist as she tries to stop them.

But then could we potentially have a situation where they discover some kind of stable 'portal' that lets them jump backwards and forwards through time to alter things?

Has he Timeslipped like the Passengers and Zeke or has he actually come back from the dead? Or is it both?

Nobody can find the Van for 4 days until they suddenly do which suggests that it might have disappeared the moment it went into the water and reappeared 4 days later for it to be found.

However at least an hour or so (probably longer) must have passed between the finding of the Van and Mick opening the door which means the Wolf was under water for at least an hour and possibly as long as four days. Either way he would have died*.

So as well as what appear to be Time Slips we are seemingly getting people returning from the dead (I also wouldn't be surprised if that cancer patient makes a recovery).

*I suppose it's possible that the Van appeared (and was found) and the Wolf only appeared in the van seconds before it was taken out of the water or the Van itself never time slipped (it just wasn't found for 4 days) and again the Wolf only appeared in it seconds before it broke the surface (have to see ifthe divers say they saw a body or not).

They mentioned that it had gone into the water in the middle of a storm, so it could have been transported in time by the lightening, I guess that would mean there doesn't need to be a storm at the 'other end'.

The preview for the season finale is here .. it doesn't give anything away as it's just "TV Guide" blurb, but i'll spoiler it just in case.

"Michaela, Ben, Zeke and Saanvi all have the same calling. After another panic attack, Saanvi is finally ready to see a therapist, but it may not be what's best for her. An ominous new link appears between Griffin and the 828 passengers."

I hope they never uncover any kind of explanation.
The way to success for a show like this is to keep it more mysterious. Even though they figure out certain things, every answer should just raise more questions.

I hope they never uncover any kind of explanation.
The way to success for a show like this is to keep it more mysterious. Even though they figure out certain things, every answer should just raise more questions.

But in that scenario the show will never end in any sort of satisfying way. Each season ends with a cliffhanger or new level of mystery. So when the show is finally ended fans are left with more questions than they started with.

Unless of course the writers finally realise the hole they have dug for themselves and tie everything up in a nice bow in 43 minutes again leaving most fans deeply unsatisfied.

I hope they never uncover any kind of explanation.
The way to success for a show like this is to keep it more mysterious. Even though they figure out certain things, every answer should just raise more questions.

That worked for the Leftovers and this isn't remotely close to the same ballpark as that show.

Manifest needs answers otherwise you're constantly left chasing conspiracies and "weird" things which will tank this show quicker than anything.

I still get a feeling the writers have written themselves into a corner with this show already, but i'm still interested to see how it pans out.

Just watched the season finale. If you can't wait until you've seen it, i'll break down some of the main points ..

There's no resolution to why 828 was gone for five years.

Griffin dies rather spectacularly and they figure out that he had an "expiration date". He was under water for 82 hours and 8 minutes and died 82 hours and 8 minutes after he was pulled from the truck. They realise this means the same for the passengers of 828. Cal had another drawing of him, Ben and Michaela's tombstones to 'confirm'.

The blood markers from the 828 passengers are discovered by someone at the hospital.

Saanvi goes to see a therapist who turns out to be the Major.

There's a fight at Michaela's apartment between Zeke and Vasquez. Michaela runs in to see it, there's a gunshot and .. fade to black ..

Just watched the season finale. If you can't wait until you've seen it, i'll break down some of the main points ..

There's no resolution to why 828 was gone for five years.

Griffin dies rather spectacularly and they figure out that he had an "expiration date". He was under water for 82 hours and 8 minutes and died 82 hours and 8 minutes after he was pulled from the truck. They realise this means the same for the passengers of 828. Cal had another drawing of him, Ben and Michaela's tombstones to 'confirm'.

The blood markers from the 828 passengers are discovered by someone at the hospital.

Saanvi goes to see a therapist who turns out to be the Major.

There's a fight at Michaela's apartment between Zeke and Vasquez. Michaela runs in to see it, there's a gunshot and .. fade to black ..

But yes, it's a terrible ending if it isn't renewed. I read an interview with the producer afterwards who was pretty confident though - he said their ratings were strong and the network liked the show.

I do think the ending closes the door on any sci-fi element personally. I think it's strictly in the realms of the supernatural now.

But yes, it's a terrible ending if it isn't renewed. I read an interview with the producer afterwards who was pretty confident though - he said their ratings were strong and the network liked the show.

I do think the ending closes the door on any sci-fi element personally. I think it's strictly in the realms of the supernatural now.