I was undecided on which pedals to get now. Either the Speedplay X2 or LOOK 337. The Speedplay X2 weigh 198g(according to its website) and the PP 337 weight 200g.
Is the X2 198g is per pair or per pedal? The X2 seems small and I won't be suprised if it weigh about 100g per pedal. Correct me if I'm wrong. Initially was thinking of getting the X2, but my shoes (Shimano SPD-R) can't take the odinary X2. Will have to ask my LBS to order the longer spindle ones. Now, I'm leaning towards the LOOK 337. Any comment? How reliable it is? Easy to clip in and out? Thanks a lot.

re: Speedplay vs LOOK

tarwheelFeb 25, 2002 5:33 AM

The Speedplay weights are for both pedals, but the Look weights are for one. So, the Looks are heavier. However, Speedplay cleats are heavier than Looks, but the Speeds still come out lighter all things being considered. I haven't used Speedplays, but the Looks are very easy to clip in and out. Looks are very reliable, but have an annoying habit of developing squeaks. Looks are less expensive, for pedals as well as cleats. If Look could develop a squeakless pedal/cleat, I think it would be an ideal pedal. The sqeak can be so annoying, however, that if I had it to do over again, I would have bought Speedplays and learned how to skate.

re: Speedplay vs LOOK

RayBanFeb 25, 2002 5:38 AM

The thing I really like about the speedplay system is how easy it is to setup your cleats. Some people complain about the skating feeling with speedplays (because there is A LOT of float), but it simply takes a bit of getting used to.

From a new non-skater

McAndrusFeb 25, 2002 6:34 AM

I just bought a pair of X-2s. Over the last year I've developed some pain in my left knee and based on Speedplay's reputation as being knee-friendly I thought I'd give them a shot. (I've been riding both Campy and Look for years.)

What surprised me was that I don't perceive much of the "skating" phenomenon many people seem to feel. The pedals are stable and comfortable and I was standing and hammering within minutes on my first ride.

The jury's still out on the knee pain although the first three rides are encouraging. But if what I experienced was the skating feeling, then it is hardly worth mentioning.

re: Speedplay vs LOOK

netsoFeb 25, 2002 6:24 AM

The Speedplay weight is for both, however the cleat is heavier than Looks. The weight is still lighter for Speedplay. Because of the large cleat and Pedal the footprint is large. They are easy to engage/disengage.
I have had them for about two years. No problem with the float, and they sure helped my knees. No squeaks either!

I just switched over to the x2's. Go with them. I was used to the "skating" by the time my first ride was over with them. Really, the only time "skating" came into play was when I stood up and really hammered. They really are kneesavers too. After my first ride, my butt hurt more than my knees for the first time in a while. Lighter, more comfortable, easier clip in, no noise.

As a former use of Time, Look, SPD, SPD-R ...

ElefantinoFeb 25, 2002 7:34 AM

who switched to Speedplay a couple of years ago for knee reasons, I think the X-2 is the best pedal made, not only for its knee friendliness but for its ease of entry. I never look down; just mash and go.

And the board is correct, the skating feeling is lost on the first ride. Once most riders try them, they don't' go back.

Unsolicited advice II: Lose the Shimano shoes. By a nice pair of Sidis or adidas or Specialized, or Carnacs (if you have a wide foot).

FWIW,
Mike

there's another option Bebops

cyclopathicFeb 25, 2002 11:14 AM

they're cheaper and lighter then all but X/1 Speedplays, very similar design. Speedplay tried to sue Bebob and shut them down but they lost. I had mine for 3 seasons (I get to ~1k/mo level by the end of summer) and they hold up great so far

Personally I am thinking about eggbeaters when I finally kill my old Looks.

re: Speedplay vs LOOK

Tri-State CyclerFeb 25, 2002 1:38 PM

I don't know if Shimano changed the shoe, but I'm running X-2's with Shimano SPD-R (Y2K Model) with no problem. I may be wrong, but don't the X-2's only come one length. I have a pair each on both my rides and the spindles measure out the same. The X-3's are bit longer. I would have to agree with Elephantino on the shoes. The Shimano's feel like strapping bricks to my feet, where my Sidi Genius 3's are pure buttah'!!

re: Speedplay vs LOOK

The RockFeb 27, 2002 3:37 AM

Mine is the blue SPD-R(check out the Shimano website). If you don't have any problems, I guess I shouldn't have any too. Btw, I have a small feet, size 39. Is the clipping in and out easy? Any complaints on the shoes?