Just was watching this episode from Season 2 and I think basically everyone was a "Threat Level - Medium or High" except Hawkeye (and I think Wasp).

Is it me or didn't Hawkeye kick more butt in EMH than just about anyone on the roster? Hawkeye definitely looked more badass than Thor, Captain America, Iron-Man, and even Hulk in the series. Actually, the two Avengers who seemed to dominate most of the fights were Hawkeye and Black Panther, with Ant-Man probably pulling in just behind those two.

Anyway, when I heard the "threat level low," I just chuckled and said even the baddies underestimate Hawkeye. He's just a dude with a bow & arrows, yet he'll still kick everyone's ass.

LOL give me holler when Hawkeye deflects a blast powerful enough to destroy a city, catch the entire city of Manhattan on his back (Thor), and knock someone from one city to the next (Hulk).

Dude, no reason to get upset.

Fact is, especially during the first season, Hawkeye very rarely got taken down. He was always kicking butt. Thor got defeated a lot in the first season.

I get that they are more powerful (Thor and Hulk) but Hawkeye was definitely written stronger. Season 2 so far he's more like the rest but season 1 it was always Black Panther and Hawkeye that rarely got beat.

Fact is, especially during the first season, Hawkeye very rarely got taken down. He was always kicking butt. Thor got defeated a lot in the first season.

I get that they are more powerful (Thor and Hulk) but Hawkeye was definitely written stronger. Season 2 so far he's more like the rest but season 1 it was always Black Panther and Hawkeye that rarely got beat.

Mad? I could've sworn I was like but ummm Thor/Hulk never really got defeated by anyone other than major threat levels like Kang, Ultron, Graviton etc.

As a matter of fact most of the time Hawkeye's arrows were useless and when they did work they just opened the villain up for them heavy hitters. Go look up Hulk's fight with Graviton and Thor's fight with Ultron (2nd fight), Hawkeye never came close to doing anything that epic.

I definately agree that Hawkeye is badass bro , but it's unfair to compare him to character's as powerful as Thor or Hulk.

Mad? I could've sworn I was like but ummm Thor/Hulk never really got defeated by anyone other than major threat levels like Kang, Ultron, Graviton etc.

As a matter of fact most of the time Hawkeye's arrows were useless and when they did work they just opened the villain up for them heavy hitters. Go look up Hulk's fight with Graviton and Thor's fight with Ultron (2nd fight), Hawkeye never came close to doing anything that epic.

I definately agree that Hawkeye is badass bro , but it's unfair to compare him to character's as powerful as Thor or Hulk.

Like I said in my last post, I don't think he's as powerful as Thor or Hulk - it just seemed like he was more effective.

In the second season, he seems a little less of a "go-to-guy" than he did in the first season. His arrows don't seem as effective. Maybe I need to re-watch season one, but that was my feeling throughout most of it.

I was actually going to question that maybe the writers were huge Hawkeye and Black Panther fans. Again, I agree they aren't as powerful but they are definitely very effective in Season One.

Didn't Hawkeye "save the world" 2-3 times before he even joined the Avengers?

Thor and Hulk were still crazy strong in this series, but I actually liked how they were more "human" in the fact that they could get beat up where-as in the movie, it was never in doubt. In the show, you could never be certain if Thor or Hulk would win the fight or not.

Like I said in my last post, I don't think he's as powerful as Thor or Hulk - it just seemed like he was more effective.

In the second season, he seems a little less of a "go-to-guy" than he did in the first season. His arrows don't seem as effective. Maybe I need to re-watch season one, but that was my feeling throughout most of it.

I was actually going to question that maybe the writers were huge Hawkeye and Black Panther fans. Again, I agree they aren't as powerful but they are definitely very effective in Season One.

Didn't Hawkeye "save the world" 2-3 times before he even joined the Avengers?

Thor and Hulk were still crazy strong in this series, but I actually liked how they were more "human" in the fact that they could get beat up where-as in the movie, it was never in doubt. In the show, you could never be certain if Thor or Hulk would win the fight or not.

He "claimed" he saved the world 2-3 times before he joined the Avengers because it's part of his character to be braggadocious.

In actuality he on played a part in saving the world along with other character, like Thor and Hulk in "Gamma World" and he still wants all the credit.