Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Austr alia is not for you", he said on National Television. "I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another Islamic law that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option", Costello said. Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off. Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want, to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off", he said. Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It." "We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society .. Learn the language!"

Kick them ALL OUT!! As has been said before (and much criticized - thus I won't use it as a tag line cause someone else got in trouble around here for it - an done radio show host got fired for saying it - ITS TRUE:

"ISLAM IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION."

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posted on 01/31/2007 11:02:43 AM PST
by Al Simmons
(Why Rudy in 2008? Because National Security should not be left to children.)

Seems to me that a lot of discussion goes on here as to whether the United States is a "secular" Government. If it is, then this is a feasible path for us. If it isn't, then this is a much more muddled direction.

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posted on 01/31/2007 11:17:24 AM PST
by Ben Mugged
(Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)

I hear there's some good golf courses in Australia, crikey! What are the taxes there? Sounds like maybe a nice place to go when American descends into a third world country. I can get a dish and watch my NY sports team there too.

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posted on 01/31/2007 11:17:55 AM PST
by word_warrior_bob
(You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)

Lest people get confused here, it's worth pointing out that this is from an e-mail that circulated widely in 2005.

scroll to the bottom, per snopes:

The individual statements attributed to Australian government officials included in the e-mail reproduced at the head of this page are thus essentially accurate, but the selectively-quoted excerpts of controversial material from different news stories create the misleading overall impression that Australia enacted a formal policy to force some Muslim groups out of the country. The statements quoted were part of the public debate over an issue that flared briefly in the immediate aftermath of the London Tube bombings, then quietly subsided.

Last updated: 4 April 2006

So, it's essentially a collection of sundry quotes from varous people in the tense time after the bombings, neither official government pronouncement nor representative of current policy.

How is a self described "secular state" with the power to force out people of any given religion a "Frontier of Freedom". Sounds more on the totalitarianist side to me. Personally, I'm glad that the US guarantees freedom of religion.

Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It." "We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society .. Learn the language!"

This is it! What Muslims and all other immigrants as well in all of the countries into which they are immigrating ...

Hey folks... good story but if one scrolls to the bottom of the "snopes" article you'll find that the article was updated in April of 2006. The post makes it seems as if the news if from 1/31/07. I know it's tough.

leilani: You're confused. Perhaps in 2005 the issue died down, but over the past 6 months it's very much in the news again in Australia. The clerics are only getting more brazen and the public knows about it.

Well, I reiterated exactly word for word what was at the bottom of the link to snopes given as the source at the top of this thread: the email that was posted here today (& the quotes therein) are, word for word, from 2005 & the quotes here were taken verbatim from statements made in the days after the tube bombings. That's explained at the link to snopes given here - nothing confusing to me about that, & I just wanted to clear that up. Some people (incl you?) seem to think that these quotes are of more recent vintage, that's all. It's an old email.

Thanks for the post. When are the politicians in this country going to realize that the Muslims over here don't want to live as Americans but practice their own religion on their own time. They want all of us to live under their rules.

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