I'm not a jingoist and I generally dislike chest-thumping and gunboat diplomacy, but I feel about this story the same way i feel about the death of the American Ambassador and the deaths of two CIA agents who were shot by Federales acting as hitman for another cartel: If you knowing kill or target an American citizen, you can consider yourself to have signed your own death warrant. In the interests of diplomacy, we shouldgive local authorities a decent chance to bring you in their way.

But if they can't or won't, you should never take an untroubled breath again in your hopefully short life. Every time you hear a plane engine you should be afraid that it's a drone coming for you, every motorcycle that passes you might be an assassain hired to end your life, every creak of a floorboard in the middle of the night could be the footfall of a covert-ops wetwork team coming to finish you

"A squirrel is a crafty animal. He is swift and decisive and knows his enemies well. He is cunning and calculates every move he makes. There is no creature that I would rather be known as than a squirrel.

And they also have lovely coats of soft fur and cute little hands that grasp. I admire that about them too."-Commander Squirrel on why he is known as Commander Squirrel.

Magorn:we shouldgive local authorities a decent chance to bring you in their way.

The problem there is that the Mexican Government is somewhere between overwhelmed by the problem or bribed away from it. The odds of the Federalis bringing the guy in are distant, even with the portion of Mexican law enforcement that is really trying to fix the whole mess.

uber humper:iheartscotch: I thought we had determined that the wife had done it; or is this a different incedent entirely?

Is this the one where they were shot while on jet skis? I don't think they ever seriously looked at the wife.

Some people suspected that the wife did it because afterwards there wasn't an television interview that she wouldn't do and she seemed to be very upbeat and happy and was more focused on promoting herself than talking about her husband or the murder. It was just really weird, but everybody reacts in different ways to tragedy.

Harry Freakstorm:"A squirrel is a crafty animal. He is swift and decisive and knows his enemies well. He is cunning and calculates every move he makes. There is no creature that I would rather be known as than a squirrel.

And they also have lovely coats of soft fur and cute little hands that grasp. I admire that about them too."-Commander Squirrel on why he is known as Commander Squirrel.

Swift? Sure decisive? not so much. At least not in my experience when he is facing his long time foe "an oncoming car"

fireclown:Magorn: we shouldgive local authorities a decent chance to bring you in their way.

The problem there is that the Mexican Government is somewhere between overwhelmed by the problem or bribed away from it. The odds of the Federalis bringing the guy in are distant, even with the portion of Mexican law enforcement that is really trying to fix the whole mess.

Which is why I advocated the "wetwork/drone" solution. Yes it deeply disrepects Mexico soveriengty, but how sovereign can really claim to be when heavily armed groups like the cartel are able to maintain an active war for almost a decade that has left 50,000 bodies behind that you are powerless to stop?

This crap has gone on too long. We need to start shooting anyone trying to cross into our borders. Mexico's doomed, there's nothing that can be done to fix that place. short of bombing every square inch of that worthless country and rebuilding from scratch once everyone is dead.

CrappityCrap:This crap has gone on too long. We need to start shooting anyone trying to cross into our borders. Mexico's doomed, there's nothing that can be done to fix that place. short of bombing every square inch of that worthless country and rebuilding from scratch once everyone is dead.

CrappityCrap:This crap has gone on too long. We need to start shooting anyone trying to cross into our borders. Mexico's doomed, there's nothing that can be done to fix that place. short of bombing every square inch of that worthless country and rebuilding from scratch once everyone is dead.

CrappityCrap:This crap has gone on too long. We need to start shooting anyone trying to cross into our borders. Mexico's doomed, there's nothing that can be done to fix that place. short of bombing every square inch of that worthless country and rebuilding from scratch once everyone is dead.

gerbilpox:The Squirrel and five other Zetas suspects, including men known as the Cherry and the Stutterer

What a gay bunch of aliases. (NTTAWWT) If their gang is so scary, surely other members have badass nicknames.

Wikipedia: Some of the original members are: ... Óscar Guerrero Silva (El Winnie Pooh)

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Think about it: if Your street name is Crusher, or Mauler, people may assume you are a badass but then get their "macho" up and say "yeah I can take thim, he ain't so tough", but if you hear about a guy that's in the Game, and everybody calls him "Winnie the Pooh" you are going to be farking TERRIFIED of him, because you know, to survive the streets with a name THAT soft you have GOT to be the hardest, deadliest, scariest motherfarker ever to walk the face of the plant

The Squirrel and five other Zetas suspects, including men known as the Cherry and the Stutterer, were presented to the media during a Mexico City press conference on Monday morning. Martinez Escobedo was not smiling in pictures taken at the press conference.

Does this mean that, in addtiion to running a muli-billion dollar drug smuggling operation and being responsible for the deaths, directly and indirectly, or at least hundreds if not thousands of people, that he's also a furry?

Great. It'll get worse. The US will withdraw most troops back home, and reinforce Mexico in Operation Burrito Filling. Months later, political ties will be made, welcoming them as the newest state, and bigger than Texas! Canada will feel a bit threatened, so we'll invite them into a nifty Union type thing. Yes, the North American Union. Soon, the Amero currency would be issued for 'travelers'. All that Mexican rebuilding means tons of financial growth opportunities for business for several years. The NAU will thrive, Americans will be confused, but hey, good times baby! Europe might fall apart. Russia will try to expand west. China will stay off to the sidelines, but Russia will eventually make them an offer they cannot refuse. China supplying arms to Russia will be laughingly referred to Armsageddon. Fighting will mostly be missiles and naval surface warfare. Iowa class battleships would quickly be refurbished and into service, nearly ensuring our victory. But at what cost? But at what cost?

angry_scientist:Great. It'll get worse. The US will withdraw most troops back home, and reinforce Mexico in Operation Burrito Filling. Months later, political ties will be made, welcoming them as the newest state, and bigger than Texas! Canada will feel a bit threatened, so we'll invite them into a nifty Union type thing. Yes, the North American Union. Soon, the Amero currency would be issued for 'travelers'. All that Mexican rebuilding means tons of financial growth opportunities for business for several years. The NAU will thrive, Americans will be confused, but hey, good times baby! Europe might fall apart. Russia will try to expand west. China will stay off to the sidelines, but Russia will eventually make them an offer they cannot refuse. China supplying arms to Russia will be laughingly referred to Armsageddon. Fighting will mostly be missiles and naval surface warfare. Iowa class battleships would quickly be refurbished and into service, nearly ensuring our victory. But at what cost? But at what cost?

erik-k:CrappityCrap: This crap has gone on too long. We need to start shooting anyone trying to cross into our borders. Mexico's doomed, there's nothing that can be done to fix that place. short of bombing every square inch of that worthless country and rebuilding from scratch once everyone is dead.

Can we at least try ending the War on Some Drugs first?

Oh yea, sure, that'll accomplish something. You might as well use gas to extinguish a fire.