Solutions to assist Japan. FROM OUT OF BOX THINKERS.

1) The rods irradiate and heat up anything that they come in contact with. Liquids are great heat sinks, but they will become irratiated immediately
and the vaporized unless a constant supply is provided. Solids aren't good enough heat sinks and can't be made to flow over the rods. Gases would
require a closed system which is not in place.

2) It's too radioactive near the rods for anyone to approach. We can't even fly over low enough to drop liquid without exposing the flight crew.
To boot, there's no power and the facility is constantly lighting on fire and exploding. It's too dangerous to send humans in.

3) Any solution has to be implemented within the next couple days if it's going to be implemented at all. If there's going to be a total meltdown,
that's when it will happen.

I think they should use a UAV helicopter to fly in a small robot, then use the same helicopter to fly in a thin strong wire attached at the other end
to a tall crane or scaffold that is relatively far away. Have the robot bolt the wire to something. Then, use the wire to send a fire hose to the
robot from the crane. Run the other end of the hose to a water source and connect a strong pump. Have the robot bring the hose nosel to the reactor
and aim it at the cooling rods. Then, use the pump to flood the place and don't stop pumping until a long term solution can be found. This seems
like something I could implement with a few friends in an afternoon if we had the equipment, and I'm not even an expert.

What would happen is that you would put huge amounts of radiation high into the atmosphere from the nuke, like in hiroshima many years later people
being born deformed genetic problems. And to that you add hundreds of tons of spent fuel that would mix with the dust in the mushroom cloud or even go
into fission itself.

It would the worst possible thing you could do in this situation worse that hrowing petrol inside the reactors.

Elf

ok, scratch that idea. lol.

how about an explosion out to sea that would bury the reactor beneath a wave?
after evacuating the area, of course.

Is there any possible way where they can just take the fuel rods out and just rapidly transport it to Antarctica and bury it somewhere in the ice? Or
anywhere close by, especially Northern Russia where temperatures drop way below the negative scale lol

Originally posted by Leemo
Why not get a big FIRE EXTINGUISHER TYPE OF MATERIAL and freeze the # out of it! I'm not a physicist but salt water isn't going to cool down
radioactive material. As my logic tells me, you can only cool radiation with other types of elements.

The rods would heat and vaporize away any "fire extinguisher type material." As far as I know, the only cold fire extinguishers use halon, co2, or
other inert gases. These gases would immediately disperse and there's not enough of a supply anywhere in the world to keep a constant flow over the
rods for an extended period. Water works fine as long as there is a constant supply. (everything on earth, including sea water, is made of "other
types of elements")

Wow OnceReturned! I see you are the first to bring in the robots for usage considering the fact that it is too hostil an environment for humans.
Very well layed out indeed in the proccess you went at doing so. I think this is another Great idea here and hopefully the monitors who monitor can
make it happen or try to. It saves human lives and gets close up to the problem...

My points exactly. Use some type of material that may react to radiation and cool materials contaminated by it. The thing about the salt water, does
salt make water boil faster?

Everything reacts to radiation, that's why it's so dangerous. Contaminated material is not really a problem in terms of heat, it's just poisonous.
What needs to be cooled are the rods themselves. Salt water does boil a few degrees below fresh water, but those few degrees don't have an impact
when the temperatures involved are as high as they are here. Also, lower boiling point is actually not necessarily a bad thing: when water is boiling
it's not continuing to heat, any additional thermal enegy it absorbs goes to convert remaining liquid water to steam. That's why boiling water on
your stove doesn't get any hotter even if you crank up the temperature, it just makes steam faster.

Is there any possible way where they can just take the fuel rods out and just rapidly transport it to Antarctica and bury it somewhere in the ice?

It would kill the crew involved and melt through the bottom of the plane.

An air drop of several hundred thousand cylinders of refrigerant would do the trick.

Refrigerants all have pretty low boiling points, which makes them good refrigerants, but would cause them to boil off very quickly and disperse more
radiation into the air. It would probably delay a meltdown for a very short period.

Originally posted by earthdude
An air drop of several hundred thousand cylinders of refrigerant would do the trick.

There is a helpful one. Because im sure there is refrigerant already stored somewhere and ready to be used. But I dont know how well it will react
to radiation and the environment. It is another great idea!

I think Kaku was quoted the other day saying they need to encase and entomb the whole thing in concrete. Just pump it in and fill the whole structure
with tons of concrete. Entomb it. This might work. I think they did a similar thing at Chernobyl.

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