I know I wouldn't be unhappy with the SVS pb13 ultra, but I'm going to go with the Axiom EP800 anyway.

My reasons

1) It'll match the rest of my axiom system. Great Waf points2) The general consensus I've read is it's great for music, which is more important to me then HT3) Apparently it can go real low, I crave an earthquake experience4) it's supporting Canadian jobs5) maybe there is better for less, but for all the above reasons I don't see why not to go with it.

Should be placing my order for the epic m80 system in the first week of March if all goes as planned. I'm traveling to Edmonton on February 1st and I already am in talks with someone on this board to go listen to his m80 system.

I'm very excited. In the meantime, I'll be trying to pick out a new a/v reciever. Any suggestions? I'm looking at pioneer. My power amp, a Rotel RMB-1095, says it can do 330w @ 4ohms all 5 channels driven. Will this be sufficient for now?

To me, setting up 2 subs is easier than 1 due to the fact that both help to fill in if there is a hole or null in the seating position. That's why I went that way.

For my twin Velos, it was a no-brainer. Put them in their place, run Audyssey (or whatever) till it is happy & enjoy.

During my first Audyssey setup, with my Velo volumes set to 4 of 10, it was way out of whack at those levels - too high. After repeated runs, I ended up at 2.5 to get them down to the proper level range.

Although some people may have valid room problems that require more drastic intervention, most of what I see is that many tend to over complicate matters & end up chasing their tails.

I appreciate your desire for huge bass; however, I find that much of it in movies is excessive, unrealistic for what is on the screen & quite frankly annoying to times. One example is the slowly approaching steam locomotive scene near the end of '3:10 to Yuma'. I'm a bit of train nut & like to be around them at every opportunity; however, I've never experienced anything like that in real life. Way over the top, but entertaining I guess.

I would agree it to be a tad unrealistic at times. But that same "unrealisticness", if you will, is how it's portrayed in the imax theaters. And aren't many of us trying re create the theater experience in the comfort of our homes?

It's a sensation, maybe over the top for some, but I enjoy it

You definitely raise some valid points. I've never thought of it like that. I think I'll start with one EP800 and if I find it necessary, down the road I'll add another or maybe even a ep500 will suffice.

One advantage of going Axiom sub, say an EP500, is there are so many different vinyl coverings for it. I got mine about 2 years ago in custom vinyl called Cinnamon Beech. It goes very good with my hardwood floors. All my other speakers are black and I'll have one on the back wall that will be white.

Mad Chesser, I purchased my set of Axiom speakers last month and I went with 2 M80's,1 VP180, and 4 QS8's. I already had an SVS PC12-PLUS which I liked a lot so I decided to keep it instead of selling it and getting the EP800. I can say that the SVS subs are very good in my opinion and they do work well with the Axiom speakers. I also considered going with cherry for my speakers but I ended up sticking with black. They look good with my SVS sub and black with match everything, so it looks good with my furniture. My Sub is the cylinder instead of the box and it is about the same height as the M80's so they look good next to each other.