I agree 500 and odd days later and we still have “adults” throwing their toys out of the pram and refusing to accept democracy. It’s great to laugh at them but at the same time sad that we have “adults” behaving like babies.

I agree 500 and odd days later and we still have “adults” throwing their toys out of the pram and refusing to accept democracy. It’s great to laugh at them but at the same time sad that we have “adults” behaving like babies.

Many of whom will be dead by the time we actually leave the EU. If indeed we do. The reality of Brexit is starting to kick in as the financial sector prepares to leave London, car workers start to worry about their jobs and inflation starts to rise as we continue to live with our low per capita poor quality jobs. All this for a self serving Tory Prime Minster trying to save his Party and keep himself in a job. Followed by a campaign built on lies. It all went wrong and he, along with the Brexiters ran for the hills leaving us with the Maybot to pick up the pieces. If we leave the EU in year or two, or three, or four etc it will be done against the wishes of the majority of British voters. Democracy my hairy arse.....

You have mission in life to hold out your hand,
To help the other guy out,
Help your fellow man.
Stan Ridgway

Many of whom will be dead by the time we actually leave the EU. If indeed we do. The reality of Brexit is starting to kick in as the financial sector prepares to leave London, car workers start to worry about their jobs and inflation starts to rise as we continue to live with our low per capita poor quality jobs. All this for a self serving Tory Prime Minster trying to save his Party and keep himself in a job. Followed by a campaign built on lies. It all went wrong and he, along with the Brexiters ran for the hills leaving us with the Maybot to pick up the pieces. If we leave the EU in year or two, or three, or four etc it will be done against the wishes of the majority of British voters. Democracy my hairy arse.....

What are you in about? I’m not “sneering” and it’s not my fault that most Brexit voters seem to have a massive inferiority complex for some reason. I’m just telling you that your statement that Brexit can only mean what has become known as “hard Brexit” or it doesn’t count is complete pigswill.

"Soft" Brexit is generally understood to be staying in the single market, customs union etc, which would still put us under the jurisdiction of the EU and therefore remaining in the EU in all but name.

It's all irrelevant anyway because both sides have said "soft" Brexit is not possible.

"Hard" Brexit or no deal Brexit are the only two real paths.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.

"Soft" Brexit is generally understood to be staying in the single market, customs union etc, which would still put us under the jurisdiction of the EU and therefore remaining in the EU in all but name.

It's all irrelevant anyway because both sides have said "soft" Brexit is not possible.

"Hard" Brexit or no deal Brexit are the only two real paths.

You could very well be right there, but surely it is just the one path? All the more reason to chuck the whole Brexit shooting match out the window imho.

You have mission in life to hold out your hand,
To help the other guy out,
Help your fellow man.
Stan Ridgway

What are you in about? I’m not “sneering” and it’s not my fault that most Brexit voters seem to have a massive inferiority complex for some reason. I’m just telling you that your statement that Brexit can only mean what has become known as “hard Brexit” or it doesn’t count is complete pigswill.

Dismissing something as "rubbish" and "nonsense" and "pigswill"without explaining why is fairly sneery.

Soft Brexit is to leave the EU but still stay a member of all the entities of it. This can't and won't happen, pretty much all sides have categorically stated this so I'm not sure why people are still clinging tightly on to it like a comfort blanket.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.

Dismissing something as "rubbish" and "nonsense" and "pigswill"without explaining why is fairly sneery.

Soft Brexit is to leave the EU but still stay a member of all the entities of it. This can't and won't happen, pretty much all sides have categorically stated this so I'm not sure why people are still clinging tightly on to it like a comfort blanket.

What do you think the government is currently attempting (cack handedly) to negotiate?

The terms hard and soft are reductive and almost pointless. There are no end of variations on both.

Let's hope he doesn't end up in third place behind Boris and May, although I think that ship has sailed - at least for the time being.

The only reason May still has a job is because no one can agree on who should replace her. Johnson is clearly incompetent, David Davis (Brexit Bulldog, Master Negotiator) ditto. The rest of the cabinet are nonentities. When some Tory MPs are seriously looking to Jacob Rees-Mogg as a potential future leader it tells you all you need to know about the current state of what they laughably call the “natural party of government”.