Senators Lieberman and McCain discuss potential military option in Libya

By
Emi Kolawole & Felicia Sonmez

Updated 1:25 p.m.:

Senators John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) joined CNN "State of the Union" host Candy Crowley in a pre-taped interview from Cairo to discuss the uprising in Libya.

"This is a real moment of choice" for the international community, said Lieberman of the world's reaction to Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi's violent response to anti-government protesters. Lieberman called for a no-fly zone over Libya and military assistance for protesters.

Asked if there was a military option for Libya McCain said, "I think there possibly could be." The security and safety of the American people "is our highest priority, it's not our only priority," he said.

"America should lead. The president should reverse the terrible decision he made to not support the demonstrators in Tehran," said McCain, criticizing the White House response and calling on the Obama administration to support calls for democracy in China.

Lieberman joined McCain in his critique, saying the White House response was too slow and not clear enough, though he acknowledged that the administration had been cautious in its response due to safety concerns for Americans still in Libya. "Now is the time for action, not just statements," Lieberman said.

"I think his days are numbered," McCain said of Gaddafi. The question now, he said, was how many people would "be massacred" before Gaddafi's fall.

On the subject of Israel's security as a result of the uprisings in Libya, Egypt and throughout the Arab world, Lieberman said he and McCain had met with Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who encouraged the United States to continue to support those calling for democracy throughout the region.

McCain also appeared on NBC's "Meet the Press," where he reiterated his call for a no-fly zone over Libya and that the administration recognize the provisional government in eastern Libya, "We should make it clear that we will provide assistance to that provisional government, and finally, we should make it absolutely clear that anyone who continues or is engaged in these kinds of barbarous acts are going to find themselves on trial in a war crimes tribunal. We've really got to get tough."

McCain also projected that the types of uprisings happening in the Middle East could spread to other countries, pointing to recent calls for protest in China.

Are we ever lucky to be seeing the end of Lieberman's tenure as a Senator...it certainly can't come soon enough. Has there ever been a situation where he didn't think we should waste millions...if not billions...on a stupid military "solution"?

"No fly zone"...patently absurd. Why would we ever want to get involved in such a fluid situation...what if the protesters start using planes against Qadadafi supporters, for instance? The "rebels" appear to control most of the country...saying that the US should get involved is just stupid. And "military assistance for protesters"...what does that mean exactly?

With Lieberman, the term "talk is cheap" is taken to a whole other level. McCain is not much "better"...as he showed during his presidential campaign.

By all means the military option,,while out troops in iraq sit in that revolution,,and the talk of downsizing the military or is it taking over the oil fields.Or is it everywhere being broke,,let mccain climb into the first plane to go.Or perhaps the globalist air force can make the world safe for foreighn oil

The U.S. presence creates an opportunity for Iran to exploit just as it did in Iraq. It is important that Qadafi is overthrown for the sake of the people of Libya, but indirect support would be a better option through supplying arms, supplies, etc, and strengthening ties to the people in charge of the rebels.

If Senators Liberman and McCain wish to volunteer their services to EITHER Moammar Gaddafi or the rebels opposing his reign, grab a rifle and join in the fighting – they have my blessing. That would show a depth of feeling and commitment on their part that I, for one, doubted they had.

If they are instead suggesting that America invade Libya to “stabilize” the region, and safeguard Libyas' oil – that would show they’ve both gone senile and should resign immediately.

That said, I'd be for giving the rebels some weaponry, especially if it came from the stockpile we planned to give the Afghans who will eventually be using it against US.

As for a no-fly zone, that mission could probably be accomplished with a single aircraft carrier using just a few of its jets. I doubt Khadafy has many functioning planes (or loyal pilots) left. The reason to implement a no-fly zone is mainly because the rebels and future rulers of Libya want it and it's time we built some cred in the Arab world by being unequivocally on their side in a fight that matters to them and that they are all watching on Al-Jazeera.

The more important question is why CNN chose to have on it's program a sold-out, dried-out, bag-of-venom John McCain, and common household mold Joe Lieberman? Was Eric Erickson busy that day?

McCain, a failed presidential candidate who had opposition from his own party in his last election, and Lieberman who has "chosen" not to run in 2012 because his disapproval rating among Conn. democrats is a whopping 70%; with both of them never having a thought that a "military option" might be a bad idea. What the hell did Crowley think they would say?

The Israeli prime minister was not pro-democracy two weeks ago when his peace-associate, Mubarak, was being toppled. Then Obama was being pressured by the Israeli government to back the Egyptian dictator. Talk about relativism! Do Leiberman (the senator, not the extremisit Israeli foreign minister--born, raised, and politically socialized in the Soviet Union--and McCain really believe we are going to value their opinions on all this: their viewpoint is whatever Obama has done is wrong--just like the rest of the Republicans.

On Cindy Crowley today both senators had silliness with their positions. Lieberman said the no fly zone should have already been in place. Without permission from Malta, nor a carrier in place there is no way to enforce it. McCain was worse saying we should have taken the hard line immediately using Americans lives in danger with the threat of retaliation, a horrible idea. He then said the U.K. immediately took action, when the 2 C130s that got their people out from the desert were not shot down due to rebel control of those areas leaving an info vaccum that they were not aware of when they made their early statements. Further McCain/Lieberman both said we should arm rebel forces, a good idea to save Libyan opposition lives. McCain stupidly said Obama should have taken a harder line immediately with Iran, putting the opposition in line for slaughter at the hands of the Revolutionary Guard and Basij gangs. Thankfully this American hero losing it was not elected president.

These two old men, McCain and Lieberman, are posturing. Thank heaven we have a President with sense and patience in these unsettled times. I shudder to think where we'd be if McCain-Palin had won the 2008 election.

So,after reading this article,and the comments frankly it is time for Cindy McCain to come take her senile old fool back home and keep Amnesty John McCain there locked up forever.

And so,as to the other old fool Lieberman,
his wife needs to come Joe Lieberman and both of them go home to Israel and stay there as well.

These two old fools must have forgot that
Comrade Muslim in Chief from Kenya,Messiah
Barack Hussein Obama got rid of our only
remaining aircraft carrier in the Med and
virtually eliminated the once powerful 6th
Fleet from the US Navy and Sec of Defense
Robert Gates has lunatic "Vision For The
US Military" that comes down to one word,
to describe it,"SURRENDER!" Fire Gates and
Impeach Barack Hussein Obama here and now!

To show how tough he is, "You Lie!" has instructed his Wet-Noodle Czar to symbolically give Gadhafi 20 lashes.

Of course, tomorrow "You Lie!" will then profusely apologize to Gadhafi for the severity of the "beating", blame bush for causing it to happen, and humbly ask for forgiveness from the syphilitic nut-job, who is his "friend".

Besides, "You Lie" doesn't have the cojones to actually commit to any military action that is NOT a continuation of something george bush was doing.

Lieberman and McCain should stay in Cairo and be buried their some where in the desert instead of meddling. These two and all other SOB so called elected yahoos have no business doing these junkets at cost to the US taxpayers.

Ralphinphnx is there something in the water in AZ that kills brain cells? No greater threat to our nation than the bankrupting of it having too large a military, a position held by Adm. Mullen and Secy Gates. Ask Israel whether they want the navy moved so the missile defense shield against Iranian missiles is not there. My guess is Ralph is also a Tea Party activist, the brainy ones that say keep the gov't away from my medicare. His post says birther and Obama is a muslim.

McCain and Lieberman ought worry about this country's troubles instead of sticking their noses somewhere else. These are two prime examples why there should be term limits, these pieces of work are one of the reasons that this country is on the brink of collapse. With the national debt at historic highs these two have nothing better to do than make idiotic comments. Down the road when Saudi Arabia is in the same situation, what will these two prophets have to say then......more at anangryman.com

And when aren't Liberman and McCain not pushing for military action? I can hear one or both of them "What the Under Secretary of the Greecian Travel Ministry mispronounced the last name of the an Assistant to a Diplomatic Aide? This calls for war! Quick unleash the nukes. We should blow their country back to the age of the dinosaurs!"

Funny how bitter old men are so quick to send others to fight and die for them. They are a bunch of old fools.

Lieberman and McCain are fools, but we expect that of them, especially Lieberman of Israel. This is a Libyan show. If they can do it themselves without overt outside military help, that should only increase the legitimacy of the insurgent movement.

I am so over the McCain/Lieberman axis of intervention. Is there a place on earth these two windbags don't think American troops shouldn't invade? I think Obama's measured responses to the groundswell of revolt in the middle east has been conservative and exemplary. He has put our country first while improving the chances of positive governmental transitions for these simultaneous revolutions.....

"America should lead" What a joke! America can't even deal with their own borders, just take a good look at the Mexico Wall and you will see how incompetent leadership is unless you sell arms. I can't wait for the demise of the dollar even though it will kill my business, but some things are just more important to me.

Lieberman & McCain sighed in with Israels prime minister . Maybe they should ask them to help the common people of Libya. What we (US) should do is get big oil Exxon & BP to donate some of their profits from Libya to sponsor Europe England & France, where the oil went. Exxon never met a dictator they did not like. Example all of OPEC. McCain called for the president to help demonstrators in Iran. What about republican( Exxon)whom has 37 refineries in 20 countries. Iran is one of those countries & sells oil to China & Afganistan. T hey sell it at OPEC prices.( 80 to 90 dollars a barrel) Exxon gets 1/2 the profits. Hows that for sanctions on Iran.

How typical of the militaristic McCain and Lieberman.
It's their answer to everything - violence!
Further inflame the situation. Impose their supposedly intelligent dictates.

Where did these guys get their education? K-Mart?

They don't seem to have learned anything in the long time they have been on this earth.
Obama has not abandoned anyone. On the contrary, he has respected their sovereignty - as we all should. He has protected the Libyan's treasure that is within his sphere of influence by temporarily freezing Gaddafi's assets.
The Libyans are doing just fine handling the situation. Our only responsibility is to be watchful and ready should they ask us to assist them. We should not intercede.

I have one question for McCain war monger. WHERE WILL THE MONEY COME FROM? America is broke! McCain you are NOT the President nor are you a Joint Chief! You are a RETIRED military vet and nothing more than the rest of us. Keep your d@mn nose our of the military's affairs! The last thing this country needs is to get engaged in yet another fiasco like Bush and you got us trapped in. You should be promoting health care for our OWN people. SAVE OUR OWN PEOPLE AND LET THE REST OF THE WORLD SAVE THEMSELVES....and the Republicans say they want to cut spending! HA!

A sequel performance by Dumb and Dumber---cut health programs for women that Planned Parenthood provides (300 million) but lets send troops to Libya (untold billions)--Republican pretzel logic at its best. For security substitute the word oil. Trillions, literally, for quagmire adventures in the Middle East, but let's cut fund to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (100 million). One would swear this was a Swiftian satire but for the actual behavior of the pseudo warriors of the right, the phony fiscal responsibility crowd responsible for 11 trillion of the nation's debt.

Americans are SICK and TIRED of war and here come these two doddering idiots trying to get us to put troops on the ground in Libya?

We have troops in oil rich Iraq and Afghanistan and yet our gas prices are STILL outrageously high. Now these idiots want to jump into another conflict that has nothing to do with a threat to US Citizens....WOW

In the eyes of the denizens of the Koranosphere, America contaminates anything it touches. And, to a degree, every interference since the Korean War has been bad for the people who live where the U.S. has interfered. Everything, and I mean everything the CIA has done has backfired. So there is no good reason to interfere. It would be best to let them sort this out for themselves, and they will.

Take a look at this pair in action just a year and a half ago after chumming it up with Qadaffi and trying to peddle arms that he could use against his people: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYVWT_kDTsU

McCain has never met a situation he hasn't wanted to resolve with armed force. "Let's just let the camel put his nose in the tent. It will be just his nose, and it will just be for a little while." Well, that nasty ol' camel has stinking up the Afganistan tent, as well as the Iraqi tent entirely too long now, with scant prospect of leaving either tent any time soon.

I can't believe that anyone will take McCain's advice seriously. Firstly, where would we get the men and materiel, when our adventures in Iraq and Afganistan has stretched our military as thin as it could be. And secondly, where, in this mad rush to balance the budget, would McCain find the money for such an escapade? Is he proposing to raise taxes? ...or mount an all-out war bond mobilization? ...or maybe he's proposing to divert congressional retirement funding to this much-more-important cause? McCain doesn't seem to have the sense that God gave a doorknob.

I prefer instead to heed SECDEF Gate's most recent paraprhase of General MacArthur's advice -- "Anyone advocating military adventures in Asia or the Middle East or Africa should have his head examined."

• The entire cost is paid by private industry not government
• Private security forces, paid by private funds are used on any ground forces
• The supply chain, munitions, hardware, and logistic support is not taken from existing military activities in Iraq or Afghanistan but must be sourced as additional resources (and paid by private funds)

Even the Joint Chairman Chief of Staff, Admiral Mullen is quoted as saying “the most important thing we can do for national security is restore our economy”. More war spending is not the answer.

What if private industry is not interested in funding military action in Libya? Then you have your answer.

We should send more US troops to Libya and the Middle East. We should also send more money to help them build schools and hospitals and help them find jobs. America is the leader of the world, the richest country on earth and we should use our resources to help these poor countries.

Flash: CNN has just previewed the new format for Candy Crowley's bumbling attempt at comedy! In an effort to revive the glory days of America's most famous comedy pairs of Abbott & Costello, Laurel & Hardy, Martin and Lewis, and Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum, Candy Crowley presented her pair of choice, Lieberman and McCain. The performance of this pair of sadly faded talents drew gales of laughter for their straight faced effort to bring a much needed note of hilarity to the currently dire situation in Libia.Only Crowley and CNN appeared to realize the travesty of this blighted attempt at humor.

Dumb and Dumber seem to place no value on the lives of young Americans, because their first reaction to any international crisis is "send in American troops." We need to GET out of Afghanistan and Iraq before any more lives are wasted, and shutter a goodly percentage of our bases overseas. The United States of America is crumbling underneath us. Time to take care of our own people.

No,No and No to American military intervention in Libya. Do every thing possible to help but no American faces on the ground. For heaven's sake didn't we learn enough from the two wars we are in. All the money we expended and are expending and all the blood we spelled and are still spelling brought us nothing but heart ache and hate from the Iraqis and the Afghanistani. What ever we are doing now which is being what we are and rooting for the people wanting freedom from far and with our social media is just perfect. We are influencing the Arab youth by being what we are. So do not spoil a good thing going and stop talking about military intervention.

McCain and Lieberman know nothing/nothing about military or diplomatic policies. The first was shot down over a civilian target and paid the price; the second never served in the military, has never formulated a policy of any kind, and is best knows as one of the "Three Amigos" along with Lindsey Graham, the famous military reservist posing as a lawyer.

What else would You expect from These two War Hawks. Lieberman actually Represents Israel, hence the call to His Israeli Boss Bibi and McCain spent too much time under enhanced North Vietnam interrogation and it has left Him just not quite right. Old Jungle Joe never gets tired of pushing Other Peoples Kids into the line of fire for Israel. McCain was just a screw up trying to emulate His Admiral Dad. He got shot down because He didn't follow procedure and trying to show Dad what a Hero He was. I think He now suffers Ronnie Reagan disease.

Joe put down the pipe. McCain don't bogart that joint. They're fighting over oil not democracy. Wait and see what happens in egypt when Sept rolls around and we all cheer for the election of another dictator. Our military interests and or oil interests are the same. And look what that gets us. A two front unending war creating a hole in the budget the size of Sarah Palin's rear. A make believe democracy in Iraq. A poppy growing rock hole called Afghan. The congress wants to spend how many billions to preserve oil in Libya when there is no shortage? Renewable energy dope fiends.

You can always count on Lieberman and McCain to call for the U.S. to get involved in another useless war in the Middle East. Neither one of them are loyal Americans, they are both traitors working for Israel.

Lieberman/McCain = gross stupidity, gross senility, gross to look at...why does the media think these cowards are entertaining or intelligent? i know i know it's all about Explotation, Profits, Zionism and Capitalism.
If there had been Oil/Rare Earths in Rwanda we'd have done something... no skin off Billy's nose.
right on mslennon!

The truth finally came to light when US vetoed a UN resolution backed by all arab nations as US's allies to halt israeli settlements in the west bank.

The arabs or all mideast nations finally see the true color of us, unbreakable bond with israel. Us has been b**ls**t with arabs for decades !!!

The arabs called as allies by US are only for against their own muslim people in mideast as US's allies.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, YOU WILL SEE MOSTLY THEY ARE STAUNCH ZIONIST SUPPORTERS
Obama with a muslim father is only a zionist puppet figure, a decoy to deceive the muslim world with his speeches.
ISLAMOPHOBIA IS VERY SEVERE IN US, Muslims sue FBI for alleged First Amendment violation
http://www.scpr.org/news/2011/02/23/muslims-sue-fbi-alleged-first-amendment-violations/

That is why there are protesters across mideast nations, they all don't want their goverments to deal with zionist us anymore.
They don't want corrupted dictators supported by zionist US decades long like shah iran and hosni mubarak to oppress their own people. They they demand reforms, change on their own WITHOUT OUTSIDE INTERFERENCE !!!

The draft said that israel -- "the occupying power" -- should immediately and completely cease all settlement activities in the occupied palestinian land.

The other four council's veto-wielding members -- china, russia, britain and france -- and the 10 elected members -- brazil, bosnia, colombia, gabon, germany, india, lebanon, nigeria, portugal and south africa -- voted in favor of the resolution on friday.

The resolution would have been approved but the single "no" vote by the united states cancelled out the "yes" vote by the other 14 members of the security council.
Iranian president mahmoud ahmadinejad says the fact that some countries have a veto at the un security council is an insult to other nations and the world governing system must be reformed as well.
Source: al jazeera

For mideast nations, it doesn't need a rocket scientist to discern this b**ls**t !
All mideast nations shall stop dealing with zionist US now, is the right thing to do !!!

WHITE HOUSE SUPPORT FOR MIDDLE EAST ‘UPRISINGS’ DEPENDS ON HOW AND WHETHER THEY CAN BE USED AGAINST IRAN
by Flynt Leverett & Hillary Mann Leverett (source: Race for Iran )
Sunday, February 20, 2011
http://www.campaigniran.org/casmii/index.php?q=node/11309

The truth finally came to light when US vetoed a UN resolution backed by all arab nations as US's allies to halt israeli settlements in the west bank.

The arabs or all mideast nations finally see the true color of us, unbreakable bond with israel. Us has been b**ls**t with arabs for decades !!!

The arabs called as allies by US are only for against their own muslim people in mideast as US's allies.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, YOU WILL SEE MOSTLY THEY ARE STAUNCH ZIONIST SUPPORTERS
Obama with a muslim father is only a zionist puppet figure, a decoy to deceive the muslim world with his speeches.
ISLAMOPHOBIA IS VERY SEVERE IN US, Muslims sue FBI for alleged First Amendment violation
http://www.scpr.org/news/2011/02/23/muslims-sue-fbi-alleged-first-amendment-violations/

That is why there are protesters across mideast nations, they all don't want their goverments to deal with zionist us anymore.
They don't want corrupted dictators supported by zionist US decades long like shah iran and hosni mubarak to oppress their own people. They they demand reforms, change on their own WITHOUT OUTSIDE INTERFERENCE !!!

The draft said that israel -- "the occupying power" -- should immediately and completely cease all settlement activities in the occupied palestinian land.

The other four council's veto-wielding members -- china, russia, britain and france -- and the 10 elected members -- brazil, bosnia, colombia, gabon, germany, india, lebanon, nigeria, portugal and south africa -- voted in favor of the resolution on friday.

The resolution would have been approved but the single "no" vote by the united states cancelled out the "yes" vote by the other 14 members of the security council.
Iranian president mahmoud ahmadinejad says the fact that some countries have a veto at the un security council is an insult to other nations and the world governing system must be reformed as well.
Source: al jazeera

For mideast nations, it doesn't need a rocket scientist to discern this b**ls**t !
All mideast nations shall stop dealing with zionist US now, is the right thing to do !!!

WHITE HOUSE SUPPORT FOR MIDDLE EAST ‘UPRISINGS’ DEPENDS ON HOW AND WHETHER THEY CAN BE USED AGAINST IRAN
by Flynt Leverett & Hillary Mann Leverett (source: Race for Iran )
Sunday, February 20, 2011
http://www.campaigniran.org/casmii/index.php?q=node/11309

HERE WE GO AGAIN, PRESIDENT OBAMA IS A COWARD, AMERICA SHOULD LEAD!!! Excuse me great GOP and 1/2 Patriots, Obama is not putting his body in front of machine gun fire, he would be sending others to put their lives on the line. IF THIS MEANS HE IS A COWARD..Go Obama! Lieberman and McCain the mutt and jeff of war with somebody's lives other than their own. Send every child of any GOP pundit talking about going to Qaddafai because Americans should lead....When will they ever learn?

HERE WE GO AGAIN, PRESIDENT OBAMA IS A COWARD, AMERICA SHOULD LEAD!!! Excuse me great GOP and 1/2 Patriots, Obama is not putting his body in front of machine gun fire, he would be sending others to put their lives on the line. IF THIS MEANS HE IS A COWARD..Go Obama! Lieberman and McCain the mutt and jeff of war with somebody's lives other than their own. Send every child of any GOP pundit talking about going to Qaddafai because Americans should lead....When will they ever learn?

Obama will do absolutely nothing since he's the one who ultimately calls the shots. Obama, the other day, in a loud voice, said that the situation in Libya is outrageous and unacceptable. Then he went back to his office to watch an NBA basketball game.

Now the UN Security Council has authorized sanctions against Libya. Iraq was sanctioned by the UN numerous times before the Iraq war. Saddam just ignored the UN, much like Iran is doing now. All the UN did was vote for more sanctions. Gaddafi must be shaking in his boots. I'll bet he is scared to death of Obama and the UN.

As James Carville once said, "If Hillary gave up one of her balls and gave it to Obama, he’d have two."

So what exactly is it that Lieberman and McCain want Obama to do? They never come out and say, do they? Words of support don't mean anything to people revolting against a dictator, not if they still have to win their struggle without outside help. Let Europe help the revolutions against the tyrants of North Africa. Its their back yard.

Lieberman is for military action to support Israel. More American treasure and lives to kill Arabs and weaken potential enemies of Israel. Israel should take advantage of this situation and start negotiating in good faith with the Palestinians (especially with Hamas). The Middle East could take on a completely different orientation towards democracy if the Palestinians had a viable state and we wean the U.S. off of imported oil. We wouldn't have to prop up the repressive oil states, the trade imbalance would be reduced and we could get our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan thereby reducing anti-American terrorism. As for John McCain, he needs his head examined if he thinks the American people are going to stand for more American troops being stationed in another Arab country. Once in, it is almost impossible to leave.

Maybe if McCain spent more time solving the despotic politics of his own state, (Arizona, the state of hate) we might be free of his warmongering in the Middle East. This narrow minded, demented representative of one of the most bigoted states in the Union needs to clean up his own backyard before commenting on foreign affairs.

*) We've got two wars right now that won't end, started by Bush-43 and continued by Obama: they are now the Bush-Obama Wars
*) We've already borrowed $14.3 trillion(!), $9.1 trillion(!) over the past 11 years alone
*) We'll have to borrow $1.6 trillion(!) next year -- on top of $2.1 trillion(!) in actual tax revenues that the U.S. fed gov will be spending
*) Unemployment is still 9%
*) Outsourcing continues unabated
*) The inflow of illeegs continues unabated
*) Wall Street and Corporate America are hauling the money out of the country by the friggin' truckload
*) And the highly bipartisan unPATRIOT Act, freshly re-authorized by Congress and Obama, and intended only to curtail active criticism of the fed gov and its agents

...and the Pirate-Idiots of Washington, Dems and Pubs alike, are talking about sticking us in the middle of yet another war among religious zealots in the Middle East -- with the U.S. picking up the tab of course. I'm sure the Israelis are delighted; their last assignment for the U.S. military (Iraq) turned sour a couple of years ago and 50,000 (as in combat troops) is hardly enough to stand guard on their behalf.

I seriously propose that the people running the United States federal government are either absolutely, certifiably out of their minds or they are intentionally attempting to scuttle the country. There can be no other reasonable explanation for their behavior.

I have one more comment.Watching TV, today 2-27 -12 to see & hear Former Bush official (Paul Wolfowitz)blast Obama,s Libya response blames pan families for Bush,s policy toward Gaddafi- totally untrue. Oil companies pushed this through, paying by using one shipment of oil. Where has beenWolfowitz hiding since 2007. He helped get us into the war with Iraq for oil & was later made head of the world bank. He was fired in 2007 for his action with his girl friend in the world bank. Now we have the three stooges, McCain, Lieberman & Wolfowitz. Let see where this leaves Cheney.

I have one more comment.Watching TV, today 2-27 -12 to see & hear Former Bush official (Paul Wolfowitz)blast Obama,s Libya response & blames pan am families for Bush,s policy toward Gaddafi- totally untrue. Oil companies pushed this through, paying by using one shipment of oil. Where has Wolfowitz hiding since 2007. He helped get us into the war with Iraq for oil & was later made head of the world bank. He was fired in 2007 for his action with his girl friend in the world bank. Now we have three stooges, McCain, Lieberman & Wolfowitz.

I really don't know who is more stupid...McCain and Leiberman or the people in Arizona and Connecticut who keep putting these dam fools back in office. Are these two really the best these two states have to offer? Dam!

We can offer humanitarian assistance (no shortage of stranded workers we should help evacuate) but there does come a time to stand down with continually military involvement. Libya is far closer to Europe. Let them handle it for a change. Every time we stick our nose in militarily we just create more problems than we solve. After this pair's Iraq and Afghanistan positions, their advice should be ignored. Can't the Sunday talk shows find someone credible?

There is a little matter of recognized legitimacy in those options. Unless we declare some other opposition government the "legitimate" government of Lybia we cannot give military assistance to the protestors. It is exactly the same situation as when he Southern states committed treason and took up arms against the United States in 1861. Britain and France would have liked to give them assistance, but could not because to do so was in violation of international law -- or what they then called the "laws of nations."

Or if you prefer, when the French could not openly give aid to the United States until AFTER they recognized our government as legitimate in 1778, with the Treaty of Amity and Commerce.

It is heartbreaking to see this unfild, but absent the recognition of a replacement government our hands are tied by law. And given the behavior and statements of certain teahadis, we had best keep international law strong in these areas lest some whack jobs decide to start another civil war in the US --- like if they are so angry about getting better and cheaper health coverage, or if they go off the deep end to protect corporate profit at their own expense.....

"crash & burn" mccain and the ambassador to
israel. i thought i was watching an excerpt from the previous nite's "saturday
night live" episode until i saw candy's wide screen presence.

is there any estimate of just how much "crash & burn" has cost this country in both his military and senatorial careers. this dunce barely made it thru the naval academy and if his father and grandfather hadn't been admirals he would have flunked out after one semester.

he crashed at least two planes and almost set an aircraft carrier on fire (thru a deliberate act, mind you) before he managed to get shot down over north viet nam.

then he comes home, dumps his wife because her deteriorating health doesn't suit him, and marries a millionaires daughter.
but that's ok because that was before republican "family values".

then he secures his party's nomination for president and immediately sabotages his chances by picking the worst possible running mate. his head is turned very easily by a strange skirt.

we in the usa certainly dodged a bullet there. didn't we?

as for the israeli ambassador, i'm betting if al gore had to pick the biggest mistake of his life it would be his singular act of picking his running mate in 2000. how different our world might be if gore had tried some other solution to the jewish vote in florida.

rightards don;t understand the first thing about foregin policy. Like -- the notiont that we should take a "hard line" with Tehran. Just what do you thik the president has been doing? Sending them farking flowers? However, oif you mean a US military action in Iran, how dumb are you? There are two immediate outcomes of the US becoming overtly involved in Iranian protests. !. is true for the entire Arab world. US support = lost legitimacy. An 2. the Republican Guard commanders in Iran have launch authorization for medium range missile systems. Their IMMEDIATE response to a US or Israeli attack is to launch on Suadi oil installations, and maybe a tanker or two for good measure in the Gulf.,

Think the tiny trickle from Lybia is affecting world oil prices? Can you say $500 a barrel oil? Can you say $15 a gallon gas? You people are like 4 year olds playing a game of checkers, only problem is that the actual game is three dimensional chess. Dopes.

Thank you to the majority of commenters I don't have much to add. Rarely are comments so one sided.

So what are these grumpy old men after with their agreesive machismo?

My favorite martian clearly has Israel's interests in his sights. israel has got to be very nervous with several N. African Countries in turmoil.

McPalin's core position - oppose anything Obama does or does not do. Never an origninal idea, revisionist thinker. Too bad no one has beat this guy in AZ yet. We may have another Strom Thurmond on our hands for another what 15 years?

Whew! How original.

No thought about the wars that we are already engaged in. No thought about the Americans in Lybia that had yet to escape to Malta due to several weather delays.

One of the perennial arguments against old men making policy decisions is that the lives of young men are cheap to them. Those lives aren't cheap. to the families of the fallen.

We don't need to invade Libya. We need to stop subsidizing oil, and get serious about developing a successor for oil, because there's never going to be cheap oil again, and the subsidies are a denial of the reality that the petroleum economy has no future, and its present id s lot less attractive than it appears.

In reality, we're paying so much of the oil industry's tax burden in subsidies that we have to cover that we're already, in effect, paying $5/gallon for gasoline, and lying to ourselves about it. The voices arguing that oil subsidies are necessary to spare the consumer are playing a shell game with our tax dollars, to hide the fact that oil is an economic no-win situation.

Funny thing, Obama had the right policy strategy for this situation on the table two years ago. If we had adopted a more conservative position on energy, rather than squandering billions on the maintenance of a false sense of security, we would be beginning to see a way out from under the petroleum albatross by now.

As it is, we remain utterly dependent on a commodity we don't, and will never, control. Something has to give. If we stall long enough, it will be the future of our economy, and of our children.

Sen. McCain doesn't get it. Mr. Obama has cleverly set in motion a 'Jasmine Revolution'.
One that so far has not cost an American life, let alone national treasure. it is amazing
Believe. He is also 'smartly' working on Iran. They know it and the dictators are running scared.
His election, cool posture and the Cairo speech had huge effect;- in a new media world populated by wired young people wanting a better life. They are the new army. One which he very well understands.
McCain's talk about Iran? Is almost silly. They were clearly not ready then. Pres Obama saved lives. Now the noose is tightening 'because' of Egypt Tunisia and Libya... Its like 'first set up the board.'

This Obama man was elected President for real reasons. He is clearly and more timely competent and savvy than all the rest. His opponents seems to want charity. 'Please elect me or listen to me because I am am one of you.' Its really boring and pitiful.
The American people are far smarter and results orientated than most politicians, pundits and maybe even some super rich plutocrats.
Mississippi Gov. Barbour had it right on MTPrss in backing The President's Foreign policy. He said, 'Politics stops at the waters edge.' Amen.
These Senators need to 'sit down, be quiet listen and learn.' Its a new world. And? So far, We are winning.

Let us remember that McCain also thought that we should intervene in Georgia and make them (and Israel) members of NATO. Lieberman would probably also support war against Iran for Israel's sake. Have either of these idiots suggested how these military exercises would be paid for in a frozen budget? Oh yes, follow the Bush doctrine that war expenses are out of the budget and not counted in the deficit. Separate from the cost, such action would only taint the freedom movements in the eyes of the people of these countries, given our past record of support for dictators we find convenient. Obama stayed cool and effective on the internationl stage once again. Make sure our people our safe and THEN lower the boom.

Send in the American Military into Libya??? - are you people all nuts? Don't you all realize just exactly what they think of us? The people hate the U.S. and surely don't want us in there. Its their own civil war, let them come to terms with their own government. Lets stay out of any place we are NOT welcome.

To show how tough he is, "You Lie!" has instructed his Wet-Noodle Czar to symbolically give Gadhafi 20 lashes.

Of course, tomorrow "You Lie!" will then profusely apologize to Gadhafi for the severity of the "beating", blame bush for causing it to happen, and humbly ask for forgiveness from the syphilitic nut-job, who is his "friend".

Besides, "You Lie" doesn't have the cojones to actually commit to any military action that is NOT a continuation of something george bush was doing.

So,according to FOX News the US Navy has been ordered to reposition it's navy ships,
including an aircraft carrier closer to Libya,however it would be nice had our joke
of a Commander in Chief Barack Obama left a
US Navy Aircraft Carrier in the Med to begin with now then. But,our great never served in the US Military himself,Commander
in Chief Barack Hussein Obama told us that
we didn't need any aircraft carriers in the
Med and Obama virtually has destroyed our
once powerful Sixt Fleet,that is normally
stationed there...So,that is why Adm Mullen
and Obama are acting like little kids that
got caught playing with their little toy
ships in the bathtub here. Impeach Obama
and Fire Adm Mullen here and now!

well, here we are again. one hears the drumbeat to use military force for regime change to relieve the suffering of the protesters in Libya, in the name of freedom, democracy, humanity. I have noticed that unlike Egypt, Libya is well endowed with oil, certainly an attractive commodity and one whicn must be kept flowing westward at all costs. I think we should, if possible, rescue american citizens tnere if their lives are in danger. But I oppose intervention aimed at regime change , or taking sides in a civil war. Doesn;t our military have enough to do in Afghanistan and Iraq?

A no-fly zone, or any other military intervention in Libya by the U.S., is war, because it is an act of war, and an act of war is the evidence that a war is occurring.

If McCain is so horny for hostilities, he should introduce the appropriate bill in Congress. The Constitution gives Congress alone the power to declare war. Obama is merely the Commander-in-Chief who supervises how the war would be conducted after it has been declared.

Just because one has access to billions of dollars to approve or not approve a certain
legislation, does not mean that an 'uprising' of the kind that is sweeping The Middle East countries now, could not be'imported' to America.
Case in point : Wisconsin executive VS.
Public labor unions.
The concentration camps must already be in place in America for all those that disobey The Supreme Order of The State.
Lord have mercy!

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