HA Bible Study: Exodus 25:15

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Watching Ben Carson tell America on Meet the Press say that he couldn’t vote for a Muslim for president because Muslim views aren’t consistent with America stands for. Unfortunately he wasn’t asked if his and the batshit crazy loon’s Seventh Day Adventist beliefs that Pope Francis is the Antichrist, the Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon and that sinners should be stoned to death is consistent with what America stands for.

CHUCK TODD: Should a President’s faith matter? Should your faith matter to voters? BEN CARSON: Well, I guess it depends on what that faith is. If it’s inconsistent with the values and principles of America, then of course it should matter. But if it fits within the realm of America and consistent with the constitution, no problem. TODD: So do you believe that Islam is consistent with the constitution? CARSON: No, I don’t, I do not. TODD: So you– CARSON: I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that.

Indeed. What America needs a president who beliefs are consistent with our Constitution – that the Vatican is the seven-headed beast of Revelation, the pope the Antichrist and the Catholic Church the Whore of Babylon.

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Puddybud, sees the clueless crazed cretin as a "Trump"eter and a Graham Cracker and Powell follower. Who knew?spews:

So Sha’ria is consistent with American views Triple S? Since you disagree with Ben Carson these Sha’ria law tenets are 100% approved by Triple S! – A Muslim cannot marry an atheist, agnostic or polytheist. So there goes your chance Triple S! – The minimum age of marriage for females is nine, for males is twelve. Puddy is sure you agree with marrying off nine year old girls Triple S! – A Muslim minor girl’s father or guardian may arrange the marriage of a girl, without her consent, before she reaches adulthood. Puddy is sure you agree with marrying off nine year old girls Triple S! – An adult man cannot marry an adult woman without her consent. An adult woman requires her wali’s – father or male guardian – consent to marry. Imagine that… Triple S agrees! – A marriage is a contract that requires the man to pay, or promise to pay some Mahr (property as brideprice) to the woman. The married woman owns this property. Of course Triple S agrees with this too! Triple S would bring goats as the brideprice! – A man can divorce his wife any time he wants, without reason. A woman cannot divorce her husband without reason. She may file for divorce for reason, such as he is impotent, missing or biologically related to her. Triple S cheers this tenet except the biologically related one. Gotta keep it all in the family per Triple S! Even if you are impotent Triple S! – A Muslim man can marry four Muslim women with their permission, only if he can support them financially and equally. A Muslim woman can marry only one Muslim man. Being the progressive misogynist Triple S is, this one is big on the Triple S approval list! – The Hudud crime of apostasy for leaving Islam and becoming an atheist is another of those Triple S agrees with! – Hudud crime of zina or illicit sex is right up there too since Triple S indulges in it all the time! – Of course Triple S agrees with 100% honor killings especially those where the person was honorably killed for being a homosexual. An honor killing is the homicide of a member of a family by other members, due to the perpetrators’ belief that the victim has brought shame or dishonor upon the family, or has violated the principles of a community or a religion, usually for reasons such as refusing to enter an arranged marriage, being in a relationship that is disapproved by their family, having sex outside marriage, becoming the victim of rape, dressing in ways which are deemed inappropriate, or engaging in homosexual relations!

Most Americans don’t know or understand the prophecies of Daniel. Seems you don’t either Triple S! In the 1830s and 1840s God gave all men in all denominations a chance to understand Daniel. Most chose to not believe those prophecies. The “prince of preachers” Charles Spurgeon understood this in the 1800s.

“It is the bounden duty of every Christian to pray against Antichrist and as to what Antichrist is no sane man ought to raise a question. If it be not the Popery in the Church of Rome, there is nothing in the world that can be called by that name. . .It wounds Christ, because it robs Christ of His glory, because it puts sacramental efficacy in the place of His atonement and lifts a piece of bread into the place of the Savior and a few drops of water into the place of the Holy Spirit and puts a mere fallible man like ourselves up as the Vicar of Christ on earth. If we pray against it, because it is against Him, we shall love the persons though we hate their errors; we shall love their souls though we loathe and detest their dogmas. And so the breath of our prayers will be sweetened because we turn our faces toward Christ when we pray.”

This will be their peril when Jesus returns Triple S.

That’s why you are known as Triple S… Triple S has triple the amount of shit between the ears of a normal DUMMOCRETIN! DAYUM U B Weally STOOOOOOOOOOOOPID!

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Puddybud, sees the clueless crazed cretin as a "Trump"eter and a Graham Cracker and Powell follower. Who knew?spews:

What America needs a president who beliefs are consistent with our Constitution – that the Vatican is the seven-headed beast of Revelation, the pope the Antichrist and the Catholic Church the Whore of Babylon.

Exactly right Triple S. You got it right even though you possess the triple the amount of shit between the ears of a normal DUMMOCRETIN!

Sooooooooooooo there we have it HA DUMMOCRETINS… Triple S does believe in Sha’ria law. Goats as the brideprice… Honor killings of homosexuals… Marrying off nine year old females… Adult women can’t marry unless approved by daddy… etc. etc. etc. Two chances to say Ben is right about Sha’ria law and two chances of ABSOLUTE gibberish in #5 and #6!

Who knew? Seems many of us knew Triple S’s true persuasions!

Sux to be Triple S. That’s why you are known as Triple S… Triple S has triple the amount of shit between the ears of a normal DUMMOCRETIN!

O.k., I won’t. But the poles are starting to bend and the rings are not round anymore, so technically, they aren’t rings. They are ovals. Are ovals rings? This is a question for theologians to ponder for the next one thousand years. In fact, the RepubliKKKlans should approve faith based funding to research this question. They can take the money from women’s healthcare. Who cares about that? AmIright?

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Puddybud, sees the clueless crazed cretin as a "Trump"eter and a Graham Cracker and Powell follower. Who knew?spews:

And frankly, as a supporter of our Sha’ria law lovin’ Kenyan Mooslem president, Obama, it is very disappointing he chose to appoint a Roman Catholic and a Jew to the Supreme Court when as Puddles well knows, he should have appointed a Moolem cleric.

“Of the 9 US Supreme Court Justices, 6 are Roman Catholic and 3 are Jewish.”

Six followers of the Antichrist and three Jesus-killers. Damn, and the Antichrist is coming to America during the “apocalypse inviting” full moon eclipse. No doubt this is more than enough to drive our End Days obsessed batshit crazy loon to new heights of batshit fucking insanity.

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Puddybud, sees the clueless crazed cretin as a "Trump"eter and a Graham Cracker and Powell follower. Who knew?spews:

Shockingly still Triple S continues to support Sha’ria law. No condemnation which means Ben Carson is spot on!

Shockingly Triple S continues to not comprehend the difference between Jewish “laws” which Triple S spewed above were nailed to the cross and God’s laws (10 Commandments, etc.) which will stand the test of time.

“Ben Carson: A president’s faith matters — so Muslims should be disqualified

Appearing on Meet the Press, retired neurosurgeon and GOP presidential candidate Ben Carson said that the faith of a potential president of the U.S. matters and that he couldn’t see having a Muslim president.”

But Ben Carson, he who believes that Pope Francis is the Antichrist, that the Vatican is the seven-headed beast of Revelation, that the Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon, that the End Days are here and that the batshit insane Ellen White was a true prophet of God, he believes that his own batshit crazy delusional faith somehow qualifies him for the presidency.

That shit doesn’t belong in the White House, it belongs in a padded cell.

@2 Is a Muslim running? If not, why say it? Certainly not good politics, because it offends Muslim voters without gaining anything. Carson doesn’t know when to keep his mouth shut.

Kind of reminds me of another election in which a young senator was trying to become America’s first Catholic president but some people thought a Catholic shouldn’t be president because he’d take orders from the Pope.

“It’s not about the people whom are Roman Catholic… it’s the Roman Catholic Church”

And yet for Ben Carson and our batshit crazy loon, when it comes Muslims, it’s the faith AND the people. Catholics are merely stupes who are blindly following their Antichrist pope and his Whore of Babylon Church to an eternity in hell, which is something I’m sure that they will appreciate hearing about.

Maybe Carson is playing to the many Republicans who believe Obama is a Muslim, and is saying in effect that Obama shouldn’t be president? Sorry, Ben, your crowd lost those two elections. Better luck next time.

Other Muslims take apostasy seriously because it’s a forcibly supported death sentence by their jihadist pals. A Catholic leaving the church is supported by death by the Pope Triple S? The Society of Jesus (Jesuits) will cut off their heads with dull knives or swords or AK-47 shoot them Triple S?

DUMB and becoming DUMBER each day!

Thanks for playing Triple S! That’s why you are known as Triple S… Triple S has triple the amount of shit between the ears of a normal DUMMOCRETIN!

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Puddybud, sees the clueless crazed cretin as a "Trump"eter and a Graham Cracker and Powell follower. Who knew?spews:

Looks like we’ve already experienced peak Carson – sinking like a rock. Sucks to be a batshit crazy loon. Scott Walker doesn’t even register with the voters anymore. Hell, it’s so bad, he’s tied with Gilmore now and Santorum at 1% is whipping him. Apparently Koch money can’t buy everything, which is nice to know.

Ancient goat herders have so much in common with modern Republicans: absolutely no scientific curiosity.

I would totally be taking those poles off those rings, just to see what happened.

Although really, the poles would have already been taken off the rings by someone else, years ago, and therefore the rule would be, “Don’t take the rings off the poles, not after what happened to Uncle Albert”. And then curiosity would kick in again. “So, what happened to Uncle Albert?”

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Puddybud, sees the clueless crazed cretin as a "Trump"eter and a Graham Cracker and Powell follower. Who knew?spews:

“Kind of reminds me of another election in which a young senator was trying to become America’s first Catholic president but some people thought a Catholic shouldn’t be president because he’d take orders from the Pope.”

I somehow doubt that Ben Carson and our batshit crazy loon would consider a Catholic, someone who is a devoted follower of the Antichrist and destined to spend an eternity in the fires of hell, to be qualified for the presidency.

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Puddybud, sees the clueless crazed cretin as a "Trump"eter and a Graham Cracker and Powell follower. Who knew?spews:

Heh. My not jumping when a batshit crazy loon barks his stupid fucking orders at me makes me a Muslim. Fuck. A few comments ago, he had me pegged as a Mormon.

Hell, Catholic, Mormon, atheist, Muslims, Jew, Episcopalian,agnostic, what’s it matter? According to God’s Prophet Ellen White and her devoted followers, Ben Carson and the batshit crazy loon, none of us will be saved when Baby Jesus comes floating down on a silver cloud. No, only Ben, the loon and the rest of the batshit crazy SDA cult will be saved. The rest of us are all going to fucking hell.

Really, doesn’t that leave Ben Carson as the only person running who is qualified to be president during these End Days as predicted by his prophet?

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Puddybud, sees the clueless crazed cretin as a "Trump"eter and a Graham Cracker and Powell follower. Who knew?spews:

Fox News’ Chris Wallace. “There is no actual footage of the incident you just mentioned.”

“No, I don’t accept that at all,” Fiorina shot back. “I’ve seen the footage. And I find it amazing, actually, that all these supposed fact checkers in the mainstream media claim this doesn’t exist, they’re trying to attack the authenticity of the videotape, I haven’t found anyone in the mainstream media who has ever watched these things.”

“And anyone who wants to challenge me first is going to have to prove to me that they watched it.”

How about just batshit insane and too stupid to differentiate between the real world, and her own fantasies? She’s a hard-core authoritarian and the only “authority” she recognizes is her own. She is utterly incapable of telling the truth about anything because factual information doesn’t jibe with her perception of what she would prefer the world to be.

In other words, she’s a typical example of the modern American Conservative.

Another Responsible Gun Owner (TM; pat. pend.), another church shooting; but not to worry, the NRA assures us that guns make us safer, which is why they want to put armed vigilantes in every school, church, and daycare.

Stewart Parnell is a crooked, greedy businessman. He knowingly sold tainted peanut butter, and took elaborate steps to conceal his fraud. Convicted on various felony counts, he could get life in prison. Is that too harsh? I don’t think so. His tainted peanut butter killed 9 people and sickened 714 more. Frankly, I think he deserves a firing squad.

Roger Rabbit Commentary: Growing crops, raising livestock, and processing and marketing foodstuffs is a business. People do it to make money. If they screw up, we get sick or die. Can we trust them?

Our last Republican president, George W. Bush, tried to disband the federal meat inspection agency and give that money to meat companies to hire their own inspectors. In other words, police themselves. Today, Republicans are criticizing President Obama for allegedly letting the Iranians police their own compliance with the nuclear deal.

Meatpacking companies have been caught pushing sick cows and hogs through the processing line. The GOP response? Republican legislators in numerous states have passed laws making it a felony for whistleblowers to videotape and report these unsafe practices.

Why would anyone vote for these fucks? Are Republican voters trying to commit suicide, or are they all vegans? (Note: Being a vegan won’t save you from poisonous peanuts, but federal inspection might.)

Carly Fiorina is a deadbeat. When she ran for the Senate in 2010, her campaign workers waited 4 years to get paid. And now she’s promising voters a balanced budget? You gotta be pretty gullible to believe anything she says.

@3 So the fact the United States government has treaties and deals with nations that have Sharia law is wrong? When Libya was a monarchy you have the rules of marriage basically correct. Kadaffi did away with these rules…seems we didn’t like the man and we consistently got his religion wrong. These are the religious laws of our good ally Saudi Arabia and a more radical version is being followed by ISIS. Yet these are not the laws or beliefs of all Muslims. Still the United States Government deals openly with governments that follow the laws you have put down here. So what are you going to do about that Puddy? And neither is Carson other than he won’t vote for a Muslim, well a lot of Americans won’t vote for a candidate who is Muslim as a lot won’t vote for a Catholic or Atheist. Even in the most lopsided election for President millions of Americans would not have voted for the person. Is Mr. Carson suggesting that members of the electoral collage could not vote for a candidate if it came out that he or she is a Muslim. That is actually possible guess they would suffer the scorn of their party after the vote. Interesting you have to put in there that you Seven Dayers are the enlightened folk. I say bullshit to that and there are plenty of Americans who won’t vote for candidate who is a Seven Dayer. Have a nice day.

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Puddybud, sees the clueless crazed cretin as a "Trump"eter and a Graham Cracker and Powell follower. Who knew?spews:

@3 So the fact the United States government has treaties and deals with nations that have Sharia law is wrong?

Wow a Mark Adams train wreck. The issues Triple S brought forth was Carson claiming he could not support a Muslim presidential candidate because their ideals are not American ideals. Ever read what Keith Ellison espouses Mark Adams?

So dealing with a country that has those ideals is DIFFERENT that having those as American ideals.

Well I found todays verse mystifying until I got out my King James. Oh we are talking about the staves that went through the hoops of the Ark of the Covenant. The verse there suggest you can remove the staves when the arc isn’t being carried around as long as you keep them with the Ark. This makes sense as you want to keep a weapon system intact, or one always keeps the special china together. It would also seem there would have been extra sets made in case one of the staves broke, rather like having a spare tire. Not that God would ever need a spare tire, and we wouldn’t mention it if the practicalities of life got in the way of his wonderfulness. Gold covered staves. Yet to be found…so the whole thing is probably a story or maybe it was thrown back into Mt. Doom from whence it came. Oh no nine rings for mortal men doomed to die here…so different mythology.

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Puddybud, sees the clueless crazed cretin as a "Trump"eter and a Graham Cracker and Powell follower. Who knew?spews:

Puddy I would love you to go talk personally to the King of Saudi Arabia about how wrong Sharia law is and all the laws you pointed out are alive and well in Saudi Arabia. At least as far as religious law. First part of the entertainment is if you can avoid getting strung up by the Religious police. At least write a letter to the King of Saudi Arabia and tell him how wrong he is. Get your buddies there to do the same. Lets see if you folks can get a good old fashion diplomatic incident started when you actually act on your beliefs when you tell your representatives that according to your beliefs we should tell the House of Saud to fuck off. Put your beliefs in action as they truly believe in Allah just are you are a true believer in your bullshit. Just let me know so I can get a camera set up on chop chop square and a big tub of pop corn.

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Puddybud, sees the clueless crazed cretin as a "Trump"eter and a Graham Cracker and Powell follower. Who knew?spews:

@16 All most all good English men if full support of their King or Queen. Good English stock. No biases here, no our boy Henry the VIII was just a totally just man with a wife who only gave girl babies. What’s a King to do. Well he did it. Hurray for Henry!

It doesn’t matter what religion a president is. What matters greatly is whether she or he will uphold the laws of the land even if they clash with the “laws” of their religion. Kennedy stated clearly that he would not take orders from the Vatican. The problem with Islam, unlike that of Judaism or Christianity, is that it is a religion which demands absolute obedience to the Qu’ran. I doubt if a Muslim president could honestly make the same statement Kennedy did.

@51 Puddy be careful here. I was born in Tripoli, Libya at Wheelas Air Force Base when there was one. There was a treaty with a corrupt king or at least the Black Prince was corrupt and there was also a White Prince. Food aid came into the country and was sold on the dock. My father would wave at the Kings harem and they would wave back. He was offered a 12 year old as a second wife because he was well liked. The Libyan’s asked him to stay. How other live and have lived in distant lands is not automatically wrong or right because they follow this or that religious persuasion and have for generations. Some of these beliefs maybe wrong, but when one is in Rome one should do as the Roman’s do. I was born there and I know I would be better treated than how we treat Mexican children who just happen to have been born here and made political pawns. The above is made in full disclosure to point on that Puddy now has a problem as I’m by birth a Libyan. It has always followed me as a joke behind my back as being some kind of camel jockeys (who are cool in Libya and Saudi Arabia). Depending on Libyan law I have been considered a citizen with no possibility of renouncing that citizenship and not considered a citizen by birth. I don’t know what my status would be if I were to show up there today. Not that I plan to. I have been to Egypt, and Saudi Arabia and my place of birth has always put me in a different place than other foreigners who are under Sharia law and tradition treated well. I’m not a Muslim but I can probably go pray at the mosque and if invited would do so. I would enjoy the camel market. How papyrus is made and the market. I hope all people can enjoy a better life no matter their beliefs, and Libya is no longer the poorest nation on the African continent. Perhaps not enough of the riches have gone to help the people, but everyone gets to have an AK47 a machinegun or more fun arms these days. The ultimate 2nd amendment. Hopefully they will sort things out. Not a whole lot of help from the little green book these days. Or will the Egyptians who have coveted Egypt put their military in gear and roll east.

A Republican candidate breaking one of the Ten Commandments, bearing false witness before 23,000,000 Americans, has a place in the Bible Study thread. Admittedly, a Republican lies whenever they open their mouths, but that’s beside the point.

Sucks to be a batshit crazy loon.

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Puddybud, sees the clueless crazed cretin as a "Trump"eter and a Graham Cracker and Powell follower. Who knew?spews:

So Piddles….you are aware that conservative Catholic dioceses have denied communion to lawmakers over that issue, right?

But here’s the thing. If you are a Catholic the Pope and his teachings you are not allowed to question and remain a Catholic.

Less conservative Catholic dioceses, read San Francisco, would have a deep problem if Pelosi said she had had an abortion but are not rending garments over her position that legislating based on the one true faith goes against the Constitution.

“James McLellan, a spokesman for the Irving police, told local station WFAA, ‘We attempted to question the juvenile about what it was, and he would simply only tell us that it was a clock.’ That, of course, is because it was a clock. Eventually, whoever has custody of the brain at the Irving PD must have recognized this for the Islamophobic idiocy it was. Ahmed was released. No charges will be filed.

“The fact that a bright kid — a kid with initiative, a kid who only wanted to make his teacher proud, a kid who, by all appearances, is precisely what we wish more kids would be — was hauled away in handcuffs for those very attributes ought to make us sober and reflective about the nation we have become in the years since 9/11.”

Roger Rabbit Commentary: Needless to say, our resident troll-idiot, Puffybutt, bought into this bullshit full bore. Pitts found the right word to describe the Islamophobes among us: Cowards who are afraid of a kid who built a clock.

@76 I have a plan. It works like this. Let “the market” set the price of vital drugs, but impose a 100% excess-profits on drug profits over and above a reasonable risk-based return, and use the proceeds to subsidize consumer purchases of drugs subject to the tax.

Back in the 1950s, the Republican administration of President Eisenhower took a similar approach to CEO salaries. Companies paid CEOs whatever they wanted, and passed the expense through the pricing chain by raising prices or pushing down wages, but incomes above a certain amount were subject to a 90% tax rate. Back then, CEOs made about 50 times what a typical worker made, but a guy with a high school diploma could get a factory job that would support a family of six kids and stay-at-home mom, and also pay for a vacation cottage and a Harley, and everyone was happy.

Now, we tax the shit out of secretaries and school janitors, give millionaires and billionaires a free ride, charge sick people $1,000 for a pill, and look at the result: A no-growth economy, a 50% divorce rate, and a nearly negative birth rate. That’s conservative Whack-O-Nomics for ya. Thank you Reagan! Not. And conservative idiots worship that guy …

@63 Come on write the man. Talk to power and tell the man it’s wrong that they follow Shaira law in his nation. He’s the only one who can change it. You just have to convince one man. Convince him that Sharia law is so horrible for the reasons you have said on this list. I hope he at least points out that on alcohol and drugs his Sharia and you religion match up just fine so what is your problem, shouldn’t you convert fully as clearly his religion is correct. At least in his belief and he is the protector of the two of the holy cities. Go ahead write the man. By the way if a majority of American’s wanted to enact Sharia law then one way or the other some or much of Sharia law would become the law of the land. A lot of Americans dance around saying the Ten Commandments are the basis of American law or some such poppy cock. They do have a point in that a lot of Americans are Christians and the ten commandments do have a bit of influence. Often more of a moral influence that occasionally gets out of hand and then gets shown the door when a judge finally reminds that there is a difference between immoral and illegal. As an American I have a right to as immoral as I desire. I can tell the preacher man to stuff, might not be a bright thing to do in certain southern states, but then thank goodness for that 2nd amendment though that holy man of god is probably toting as well. Odd that.

@ 60 It’s also impossible for any Moslem to need to make such a promise. There is no Moslem equivalent of Pope. No single man heads Islam or any of the sects. None are also the head of the secular state. The promise that Kennedy made was he would not bow to the Pope in his role as President. No American especially those who represent the United States should bow to any King, Pope, Queen, Czar, President, ect of any nation of the world. No American Moslem is going to bow to the current Ayatollah Khomeni in Iran especially if they are Persian. In spite of everything the Ayatollah doesn’t have the same religious or secular significance of the Pope. If they were to be a Horses Ass though they would present the Ayatollah with his own signed copy of Soloman Rushdie’s books.

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