Most of these problems* are due to "old members".
So the answer is to develop activities where new people are willing to participate, rather than catering to the old farts.

Talk about art, by all means.
However, I'd rather talk about stuff like "look at these pretentious art students watch a girl piss into a bean tin" than some vague topics like "What is art" which achieves nothing.

At 12/4/11 01:31 PM, Kinsei01 wrote:
On a lighter note, I wrecked my car the other night. Yeah smashed it up kind of nice like. Still runs, just not quite drivable with the hood all messed up and the windshield all bashed up.

At 12/4/11 01:31 PM, Kinsei01 wrote:
On a lighter note, I wrecked my car the other night. Yeah smashed it up kind of nice like. Still runs, just not quite drivable with the hood all messed up and the windshield all bashed up.

I guess do what Turkey said even though we've done that "make new activities and participate" thing a buttload of times before and it never lasts longer than a couple weeks. But, cutting the fat of the matter is maybe as a group of friends I like this forum but as an art forum I don't really like it. But then again pretty much all my recent forrays which are themselves attempts to reintegrate into forum society have all been stand-offish rants. Which I do a lot anyway, but they make less sense than usual.

I guess I just have to accept the forums as they are and not see them how I saw them when I first started posting.

What's so different about the forums knoc? We're still doing art and we're still making community projects. I don't see any significant changes that are bad at least in my perspective. It makes me sad that you're thinking of leaving, since that's another great person gone here. But I'll respect your decision though, be it as it may.

At 12/4/11 04:18 PM, Knocturne wrote:
I guess do what Turkey said even though we've done that "make new activities and participate" thing a buttload of times before and it never lasts longer than a couple weeks. But, cutting the fat of the matter is maybe as a group of friends I like this forum but as an art forum I don't really like it.

Quit complaining, it's achieving nothing. It's pretty detrimental, since it's painting a darker image than it is in reality, and causes friction.

This is a forum, and it's made up of several people. If you want art related topics, push it the way you want it to go, and people might join in.

At 12/4/11 04:31 PM, Knocturne wrote:
Is that a summation of my thought or your reaction to it? (mostly cuz 'Bama is black so I thought it was supposed to be a picture of me cuz I might be one of the only not white forumers.

It's a summation of your thought, but race wasn't the reason I chose the picture.

And I disagree about the "make the change you want to see" because it's shouldn't be up to me. It's a forum. Made up of several people. If one person wants to do it, it only really works when everyone does it.