If they shove a form at you, do not sign it. Take it homeand go online, and see if other groups with bad rapsuse the same paperwork.

The Anticult, a member of this discussion forum, first drew ourattention to this important point.

Most LGATs claim to teach you are responsible for your life.

Yet via these forms, the LGATs refuse to admit responsiblityfor the power they claim to possess.

No ethical physician requires patients to sign such forms.

Final tip: always keep control over your transportation, your phone,keys, watch and laptop. Do not give in to pleas that you do acarpool. If you want to leave and the others insist on staying,you're stuck -- you want to get out of Dodge and you dont have ahorse.

Use your own car, dont let anyone guilt you into carsharing, keep thekeys, and take care to park where you will not be boxed in by othervehicles.

An additional tip: never discontinue drugs you are accustomed to taking.

That includes caffiene. Take caffiene tablets with you just in casethey refuse to provide caffienated beverages -- something most of ususe to start the day.

Caffiene withdrawal can be hellish -- you dont want to inflict thison yourself AND have possible LGAT tech piled on top of of you as well.

An friend in Utah just got sucked into the Impact Training cult a few months ago. Had I known in time I would have warned him before he started. :( I was especially worried because he had just gone through a divorce, which you all know makes him more vulnerable to Impact Training's techniques. Just hoping and waiting, but since I'm not in Utah at the moment, I just have to hope and wait and see if he'll be OK.

So far he's still using Impact Training's assigned vocabulary on social media (they replace certain words with their own words and definitions, so you will only make complete sense to other "trainees"), and it's bringing back a lot of negative feelings from my own awful experience. I did send him a message once I realized what was going on: he posted on Facebook about going to a place that was teaching him to "take on his life", "deserving money", there being "no right and wrong" and ending the post with "444444", so it was pretty obvious where he was. (Those are all typical phrases they teach you to use.)

Ugh, I get so sad when I know of someone entering Impact. I try to warn them but it usually doesn't do anything until they see the destruction for themselves. I've been out since 2009 and I still get flashbacks of the horror of what happened there. It's scary!

Also, anyone who was in Impact when Ward was around (between 2005 - current I believe) knows he's a creepy guy. This confirms it: [www.sltrib.com]

MODERATOR: Note that the SL Tribune link here is about the Manager of Impact Trainings, Ward Bushman. You will want to read the article. Bushman's bad publicity is extremely bad news for the LGAT Impact Trainings.

Also, should not the posting on Impact Trainings in Utah be consolidated with this subject?

That is an incredible development. Someone in LMT 3 sent the attached screen shot to me from their Facebook Group, it is Impact's response to Ward getting arrested. I'm not sure if the attachment feature works yet or if it takes awhile to fully load (I have tried to add the file a few times already) but if it doesn't show up soon then I will try something else.