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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."-Stephen Hawking"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

Feb-05-2007 12:21

shaolin_ZHei Hu Quan

Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

quote:

Originally posted by Zild
You need something. Althought it is far from my out of shape soft ass to tell you something like that.

I need to get quite a few things under control, and put certain things in perspective, along with additional, I hate to say it, but necessities that would definetly help make things alot easier. I'm gonna hit the sack now. Peace out.

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."-Stephen Hawking"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

Feb-05-2007 12:24

ZildTen City

Registered: Jun 2004
Location: San Antonio, US : TXTA #156

LOL. Yea I have a fun day or physics and chemsitry to look forward to.

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I've never been able to eat a whole baby.
Kill the women. Eat the children.
It's just one of those days where you want to bend over everyone you know and kiss their ass goodbye with a big sideways boot.

It's a really moving drama, showing very different sad realities. Northern Mexico reminded me a lot of North-eastern Brazil, and I could also relate to the Japanese urban life. The fragmented notion of time in space is also subtle enough to improve one's understanding of what's going on.

In the end, in spite of a painful headache I had (because of sinusitis), I was happy for a strange reason: Except for Moroccan Arab, I could understand all languages spoken in the film fairly well

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."-Stephen Hawking"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Actually you don't, there a lot I never got around to talking to you about. And you didn't really give me a chance after you know what.

After 'that' I am still smarting, well after I just tried to apologise then and get such a rude reply, then no I wash my hands of having to pussy-foot around your emotional states. I really have no desire to help anymore and no, I do not predjudice against 'students'.
I do have a distinct dislike for ill manners, overt hostility, immature dramatics and people with no temperance who see fit to judge so quickly on every piddling little semantic as if its a personal attack on them.
I really do not like that.

Feb-05-2007 20:06

shaolin_ZHei Hu Quan

Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

I wasn't trying to be rude, you assumed a tone I never used there. That's a big problem communicating in text. And apparently it's kind of obvious at this point.

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."-Stephen Hawking"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

I didnt miss the sniping posted after I wandered off to bed but its given me an idea where I stand and what you two people think of me, enough to realise that you really don't like some 'lippy little bitch' whos prepared to tell you exactly what I think. So after my sincere apology being ignored in favour of both of you being overly confrontational and deciding to pick me to bits in whatever judgement you seemed to agree on, there isnt much to say really.
Anything I do say just gets taken as a personal attack rather than benevolent, if not exactly elegant criticism and I don't want to be constantly on the defensive like I said earlier. It's wearysome, dull and not exactly a debate when one side has already damned you by refusing to read.
Course, I really don't want an apology either, both Zild and yourself would probably rather die by their wrongs than ever admit you where in the first place. An admirable display of stubborness, but hardly a way of ever learning anything about yourself you might not want to hear but probably should.

You'll probably find this funny, I found it in the COR of all places and it more or less sums up how I'm starting to feel about PD/D...

Feb-05-2007 21:03

LazFXSupreme tranceaddict

Registered: Aug 2004
Location: 9th Circle

^^ I do love little kittens^^ I bout fell out my chair!

?? Ok who the fuck brought this vibe

Z, you know the respect I give ya, but the Tone did change lil man. I was like reading and went..... "hmmmmmmm interesting...." .

just my honest opinion bro

Feb-05-2007 21:25

shaolin_ZHei Hu Quan

Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

That video was kind of sexist, but .

Alright, to avoid any unecessary confusion and as a precaution:

[neutral tone]
Anyways, the main problem is that it's kind of hard for me to get a word in anymore if you know what I mean. Operating on assumptions and generalizations that's don't necessarily apply will inevitably lead to yet more misunderstandings and communication hazards, which I've mentioned numerous times in the past. Plus, this is the chill out thread. We're not exactly 'chilling' here at the moment, and I don't want a public record of something that's rather personal and no one elses business. This isn't the place for this conversation. I think I've said enough here already, much of which seems to have been seriously misinterpreted once again.[/neutral tone]

[very neutral tone]
Plus, I'm really not sure why my opinion matters to you anymore, not to mention you didn't evaluate it properly. What I gathered from the last time we spoke in private, it didn't sound like... well I have more to say, but not here. I'll say this much though. Assuming that I understood you and the situation correctly from "back then," I'm not at liberty to do that eigther. Nor I have no desire to put you under any pressure to hear it since (to me) it seems you basically don't want to, atleast that's the logical implication of the conclusion we (mostly you) came to. You can't expect to be understood or understand some one else when you choose to push them away, right or wrong. And on that note, I'll have to wrap this up as there's not much more I can say.[/very neutral tone]

EDIT: Logical negation errors corrected.

EDIT2: [neutral tone] Another thing, every one has some opinion on, or degree of 'jugment' of other people, including yourself. Try keeping that in mind, and a single standard when it comes to it. Sorry if you find this offensive, but you're noticabely more judgemental than any of us here, yet complain about opinions we don't even necessarily have, or at least nothing they actually seriously consider.[/neutral tone]

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."-Stephen Hawking"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller