I wouldn't call their polls slop, but rather polls that lack the rigor of more scientific polls. In the long run their lack of cell phone interviews will be a problem. But calling cellphones is expensive.

Their business model doesn't seem to allow for it. They are going for volume and can only get that that with automated calls. Now they are trying the online jazz instead of getting cells in the sample - not really sure how that will pan out for them.

quote:Their business model doesn't seem to allow for it. They are going for volume and can only get that that with automated calls. Now they are trying the online jazz instead of getting cells in the sample - not really sure how that will pan out for them.

I mean when you can do a poll for like $600 (last time I heard a price quote about them this was it) that's cool, but they just need to understand that their polls really aren't that scientific.

BIG fan of Pew polls, regardless of what the PID is and regardless of who is ahead. They do a great job.

quote:I wouldn't call their polls slop, but rather polls that lack the rigor of more scientific polls. In the long run their lack of cell phone interviews will be a problem. But calling cellphones is expensive

How many of the cell phone only households are likely voters? I could be off but thinking its very low % of the voting population.

quote:How many of the cell phone only households are likely voters? I could be off but thinking its very low % of the voting population.

Well they make up 30% of the population and are different than than those with landline phones in significant ways so even if only 1/3 were deemed likely to vote that is still a chunk of the population that you won't be reaching.

I get it. And yes I think we've been groomed to throw out any neutrality.

Laura Ingram, Hannity, the other blonde lady on fox(don't know her name) and the guy in the middle of the 5 are the same way. I don't listen to a word they say. Most others at FOX are pretty damn good.

Those were states he picked McCain or a Tie that was at least 4 points off. I can give him a pass on Nevada because the election was basically called for Obama and tweaked the end result. Still, why do people hang their hats on 1 poll? I think Ras is a good poll but it needs to be placed within the context of multiple polls, hence RCP Avg.

Yeah, they didn't do great at the state level at all if I recall correctly.

I've been a fan of RCP and Pollster for years. I still look at them, but also look at 538 because what they do is much more complex (in some ways) and I prefer the layout. Can't stand having to go to HuffPo to see Pollster.