MarkAtHome wrote:Would appreciate it if you enlighten us as to what you are basing this statement upon.

I think it's obvious. There are already 4 releases of the JB 4.3 ROM. The initial release has several issues. You can see the changelog. The subsequent releases fixed those issues. So the 5th release should fix more issues or has some improvements. On the other hand, when a Kitkat 4.4 ROM is released, it will be the 1st release which I expect that there will be some issues which is totally understandable. If you look at the changelog of the JB 4.2.2 ROM, you will see that the 1st release has several issues as well.

tytung wrote:Just downloaded CM 11.0 (Android 4.4) source code to build a ROM.It's time to fix bugs. Don't ask me when I'll release a ROM. I have no timetable.

soren wrote:Great news. What about JB 4.3.1? To be honest, I'm waiting for it rather than KitKat 4.4 because I think it'll be more stable.

MarkAtHome wrote:Would appreciate it if you enlighten us as to what you are basing this statement upon.

soren wrote:I think it's obvious. There are already 4 releases of the JB 4.3 ROM. The initial release has several issues. You can see the changelog. The subsequent releases fixed those issues. So the 5th release should fix more issues or has some improvements. On the other hand, when a Kitkat 4.4 ROM is released, it will be the 1st release which I expect that there will be some issues which is totally understandable. If you look at the changelog of the JB 4.2.2 ROM, you will see that the 1st release has several issues as well.

Since I can only speak for myself, the fact that there are a number of 4.3.x releases does not mean that any of them are ready for primetime, especially the almost working (duh...) release of 4.4. The number of releases listed in a change log, does not indicate a ROM's value or stability, as there is no reason to perceive those as any more stable than a ROM's first release (author-dependent, of course), let alone waste the time to pursue it, when a subsequent version has been released.

I would much rather have alpha Tytung versions of 4.4.x than a "stable"/multi-version release by anyone else in the HD2 world.

Tytung just received his Nexus 5, which comes with 4.4. There is no reason for him to do anything but little fixes, if he so chooses, for the HD2.

Of course, if tytung needs a diversion after working on his Nexus 5, only then can we hope for a version update, and it would make little sense to offer the HD2 a version update to anything other than what is current and/or possible for the HD2.

Any ROM that is released must be deemed alpha, which is what is to be expected in development forums. As we all know, we flash at our own risk, so if that were a concern, I would wait until the new ROM's change log lengthens.

Maybe I should have said "dependable" rather than "stable". If you look at the changelog, you should see that the later versions are more dependable than the earlier versions as there are issues fixed, source code updated, more features added, etc.

Anyway, if the first release of tytung's KitKat 4.4 ROM is bug free and feature complete, I cannot think of a reason to not flash it.

Also, just out of curiosity, I noticed that in your recent releases you reduced the system space requirements. Why is that? I think the size of the system space required was important when most users used A2SD scripts. But currently, I believe most users use DataOnEXT or NativeSD so the system space required doesn't matter. Actually, as I'm using DataOnEXT, I prefer utilizing the system partition because my data partition space is quite limited. But it's a very minor issue.

Also, just out of curiosity, I noticed that in your recent releases you reduced the system space requirements. Why is that? I think the size of the system space required was important when most users used A2SD scripts. But currently, I believe most users use DataOnEXT or NativeSD so the system space required doesn't matter. Actually, as I'm using DataOnEXT, I prefer utilizing the system partition because my data partition space is quite limited. But it's a very minor issue.

Some Google apps, e.g., Google Maps, are updated from Google Play frequently.After updating Google Maps app, you will have two Google Maps apps. The old version is in the system space while the newer version is in the data space.So I moved some Google apps from system space to data space at beginning.The benefit is to save system space and to reduce the zip file's size.

Paste your logcat to GitHub Gist or any similar websites, and link it in your post if you need any help. (Don't forget to tell us your HD2 setup/configuration.)