How do you know that some young girl didn't birth the baby, then abandon it? This happens.

Next, wow. The baby was not baptized in time so it must have died a heathen. Poor thing. You sound like my catholic aunt. Brainwashing is a bitch.
So sad.

Um, the idea of a guardian angel is a Catholic concept. So I wonder why I would sound like a Catholic. And second, okay maybe a woman did give birth
and abandon it, but it was not born there and it was laid out in that position regardless. If you had ever attended a live birth or have any type of
forensics understanding you would know that without a doubt.

Originally posted by Agarta
Um, the idea of a guardian angel is a Catholic concept. So I wonder why I would sound like a Catholic. And second, okay maybe a woman did give birth
and abandon it, but it was not born there and it was laid out in that position regardless. If you had ever attended a live birth or have any type of
forensics understanding you would know that without a doubt.

I've actually attended three live births, my three children. Yeah, it was
probably laid there by a frightened young girl who didn't know what to do. Just my guess.

We have been given the power of reason to question all we see,
and make moral judgements,
and we will be held to task for the decions we make.

The mother of this child, from the first post, was probably not in her right mind when this occured,
who knows what circumstances led her to this awful predicament.
The whole situation is desperately sad,
which urged me to post it originally.

I cousin of mine from Scotland went to Ethiopia recently and adopted two delightful little kids,
less than a year old.

Scenes likes that depicted in either picture should never occur, beit the fault of humankind or inaction of those who could prevent it.

This child(assuming it real for discussion) obviously has not been baptized and therefore not free from Original sin. Therefore not under the
protection of God or a guardian angel.

I can't see Jesus allowing a child to suffer because it could not make the choice to have itself baptized..

Also.. if that is the case.. and it was because it wasn't under protection.. what about the many children who have been baptized..and still suffer
atrocities?

Nothing personal.. but I think that reasoning is way off.

Not taken personal.

In the case of non baptized or suffering as we perceive it to be refer to the Third in my list. Life is about learning the lessons of higher
understanding. It is my belief that one goes through physical life to understand the higher concepts and more often than not not all of these lessons
are learned in one run through. So, that leaves a couple of possibilities. Lessons unlearned or going through it for the benefit of others.

I am a father who lost a child to SIDS and trust me I questioned why. The child may have not learned a true sense of suffering and needed that lesson
to progress into the higher realms and/or I/We needed to understand (ie) the concept of loss to the heart to understand love itself. It may have been
other lessons but for me to go into all I experienced would take a book.

Originally posted by Agarta
I am a father who lost a child to SIDS and trust me I questioned why. The child may have not learned a true sense of suffering and needed that lesson
to progress into the higher realms and/or I/We needed to understand (ie) the concept of loss to the heart to understand love itself. It may have been
other lessons but for me to go into all I experienced would take a book.

Sorry to hear that. Having kids can be a scary business. My wife
and I were always concerned about SIDS and other things and it can be very stressful. Thankfully they're older now, but newer fears can and have
arised.

May I ask why you want me to research "crack " babies..?..what are you expecting me to learn ?

Perhaps you misunderstood what I was saying in the post you replied to? What I meant is that I cannot fathom a God who would decide which children
suffer and which don't based on whether they had been baptized or not.

I realize that many many innocent babies suffer from the choices of others..some choices made by misunderstanding....and some made through selfishness
and addictions.

This baby died because of the actions of MANKIND.... not because of something angels or God did..

I am mankind, and if I could have done something about this I would have.
Many a time I have got into trouble,
by interceeding in a situation that was blatently wrong.

This I could not help,
but an all powerful being has the power that I don't.

Even the wisest man cannot see all ends.......to try and understand why things happen is folly.......just continue to care about mankind and leave God
to God's........and if you're looking to place blame, go ahead.......but it will not make you feel any better.

We live in a fallen world.....some ugly things happen.......and I hope one day we will all be brought up from the darkness

The fact that it happened disgusting.
The reaction , a great stiring of human emotion, a voice for those with none, shows that for the senseless act of one person, a whole community can
recognize this grotesque injustice.
The intent, to stir the emotion of love and humanity.
The angel, was the child itself.

PLPL

We never walk alone, not for one second. Even if you do not believe there are angels, they are still there, and always will be.

Oh yes they certainly do exist.. I know it for a fact myself.. I think what the OP is trying to say is that because this baby died like this, that it
somehow discredits the idea that guardian angels exist.. but who is the op, or anyone else to say why bad things happen to good people, or helpless
babies? This baby certainly has a spirit, and it is not suffering anymore..

because it died there doesn't mean it was the end of his/her existence...

Guardian angels are around to do what God wants done, not what humans think should be done.

That is a really harsh thing to see the picture of that tiny baby like that.. heart wrenching is a gross understatement..

Maybe it is a good thing that baby isn't in a place any longer where it had no one to defend it.. in a world of people that just can't stop the
violence... a place that allowed a tiny baby to be all alone in some street like that....

I second this.
It is the height of presumption to discredit the idea that something does not exist because you can't see it, or, have not experienced it, or do not,
in this limited capacity, understand the workings of 'stuff'.

We are not privvy to the lessons/experiences (from our perspective) the little beings' soul, wanted, or was scheduled to experience and for what
reason...
...and the preponderance to judgement of others' experience merely takes us away from examining the reasons for us being here, and what our
experiences mean to us...basically a self-imposed diversionary manouevre to not face our lives and the part we play in uplifting the mien of the
general population of the earth.

A guardian angel does not step in on a 'situation' unless specifically asked, or, the path being navigated by a 'blinded' guardee is so far off
schedule that it is necessarily diverted...

Well seeing as you have no sympathy for a child, i can now see your are a monster. You like to through cats at cacti and troll on threads like this,
there's a special place in hell for you.

HAHAHAHAHA
So because I dont believe in guardian angels I have no sympathy for the child? Right, because believing in fairy tales is really going to help
Sorry but hell doesnt exist and I am not trolling

Yeah, that picture is horrifying. The word "angel" means "messenger" in hebrew, not "protector" or "slave". Unfortunately as a side effect of
the free will covenant God will not step in and stop stuff like this, not yet. He will soon but not yet.

Would kind of monster would or could do that to a newborn? People like that should be the ones who're sterile. What a tragedy. Good thing my wife
didn't see that picture or she'd be on the warpath. She's sterile and can't have any and seeing something like that would send her into a rage.

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