'The royalists' is not a uniform group, and the succession line was abolished in 1947 and will never be restored. There is one way forward for a monarchy in Romania, and it is along several lines at once. One is to improve knowledge of the Royal Family and the monarchical representatives in Romania. Another is to establish the Royal House as an institution with relevance again in the country. A third is to showcase to everyone within the country what the Royal Family represents, and what monarchy can do for the country.
Nothing else will benefit the monarchy, and will only serve to undermine the cause, and make it seem to those on the outside with less interest in the issue, that people are spending more energy sabotaging each other than uniting in a common goal.

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"He who has never failed to reach perfection, has a right to be the harshest critic" - Queen Elizabeth II

The royalists advicate to restore the Line of Succession to the role before 1947. To be a part of the republican regime as an institution is completely the opposite.

That is not a realistic goal and will not be accomplished in the near future.

It's best to pick a minimum acceptable and achievable goal. Restoring the Royal Family to an official and prominent role as described in the proposed legislation, although different than its role before 1948, is achievable, and is about to be achieved.

As I've said, duties of royal families change over time. Even the duties of the US President and Vice President have changed over time and are probably somewhat different than in 1947. Life goes on, and it's impossible for anyone to have exactly the same life and job that s/he had in 1947.

Important royalist personalities like Doina Cornea (symbol of the fight against communism during Ceausescu regime), Acad. Alexandru Zub, Prof. Dr. Nicolae Constantinescu, Prof. Dr. Nicolae Șerban Tanașoca, artist George Tzipoia,Lect. Univ. dr. Viorel Burlacu and leaders of the Movement for Kingdom and Crown like Marilena Rotaru and others and leaders of the Monarchist Clubs like Dr. Dan Marinca and others signed a Petition asking the President.Government, Parliament and political parties to stop the project regarding an institutional role of the Royal House in the republic. In the same time they ask Princess Margareta not to accept it either:

I wonder in what fantasy these figures live? Phantasialand? They should sink on their bare knees and thank the republican government for acknowledging the historic role of the former royal family and give them semi-official role. What alse are these folks expecting? My eyes are rolling with disbelief! I hope Princess Margarita is wise enough to grab the opportunity with both hands!

Despite the protests of the royalists the government published today the project of law regarding an institutional role of the "Royal House" in the republican state. The project was prepared by the government and by the Elisabeta Palace. The public debate starts only now and many could think if such a law is not against the constitution.

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I wonder in what fantasy these figures live? Phantasialand? They should sink on their bare knees and thank the republican government for acknowledging the historic role of the former royal family and give them semi-official role. What alse are these folks expecting? My eyes are rolling with disbelief! I hope Princess Margarita is wise enough to grab the opportunity with both hands!

These Romanian personalities want the restoration of Monarchy and not a law that closes the possibility for a restoration. They are very respected intellectuals and they know very well what their country really needs.

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That is not a realistic goal and will not be accomplished in the near future.

It's best to pick a minimum acceptable and achievable goal. Restoring the Royal Family to an official and prominent role as described in the proposed legislation, although different than its role before 1948, is achievable, and is about to be achieved.

As I've said, duties of royal families change over time. Even the duties of the US President and Vice President have changed over time and are probably somewhat different than in 1947. Life goes on, and it's impossible for anyone to have exactly the same life and job that s/he had in 1947.

So accepting to give up the restoration of Monarchy and work as an "institution" of the republic?This is not only absurd but probably even against the republican Constitution.

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I wonder in what fantasy these figures live? Phantasialand? They should sink on their bare knees and thank the republican government for acknowledging the historic role of the former royal family and give them semi-official role. What alse are these folks expecting? My eyes are rolling with disbelief! I hope Princess Margarita is wise enough to grab the opportunity with both hands!

Do you know who is Doina Cornea?Do you know who is Alexandru Zub?Do you know who is Marilena Rotaru?How can you speak like this about personalities widely respected by the Romanians?

No I do not know them but my estimation from the sideline is that a restoration will never happen. Then you have to make an assessment and count the blessings. A republican government in a former communist dictature is acknowledging the role of the monarchy, which ended more than 70 years ago. They eventually want to provide in budget, in staffing and in organization? Boy... grab it with both hands and use this "level" to consolidate a new position as Royal House and go furtherer, maybe to another level.

The stance of the die-hard monarchists is: "No, we do not want a semi-official position in the republic. We want restoration of the monarchy!" The English have a great saying for that: "Pennywise but poundfoolish".

No I do not know them but my estimation from the sideline is that a restoration will never happen. Then you have to make an assessment and count the blessings. A republican government in a former communist dictature is acknowledging the role of the monarchy, which ended more than 70 years ago. They eventually want to provide in budget, in staffing and in organization? Boy... grab it with both hands and use this "level" to consolidate a new position as Royal House and go furtherer, maybe to another level.

The stance of the die-hard monarchists is: "No, we do not want a semi-official position in the republic. We want restoration of the monarchy!" The English have a great saying for that: "Pennywise but poundfoolish".

You are speaking from abroad and you are judging very important and respected personalities that are Romanians.
Becoming an institution of the republic means to forget all the history of the Royal House and all the ideals of generations. And only for benefits ( a palace free of charge ,funds,etc)...sad...

Well, that's what King Michael has already done some years ago. He is a citizen of the Republic of Romania, officially acknowledged as a former Head of State of Romania and gets some benefits for this reason (a palace free of charges, funds, car, office, etc...).
Yet, I can't recall many protests from the royalists because he has accepted this settlement, officialized by a law of the Republic of Romania approved by the republican parliament (but - still - I'm also one who speaks from abroad and doesn't know the so-called "romanian realities").

Besides that, personally I find interesting and funny that those who have screamed for years that each and every Romanian constitution approved after the 1923 one were illegal acts, unlawfully approved, that "de iure" Romania should still be considered as a parliamentary monarchy, etc etc etc, are now worried that a law could possibly not be in compliance with the last (and current) of those constitutions.

Well, that's what King Michael has already done some years ago. He is a citizen of the Republic of Romania, officially acknowledged as a former Head of State of Romania and gets some benefits for this reason (a palace free of charges, funds, car, office, etc...).
Yet, I can't recall many protests from the royalists because he has accepted this settlement, officialized by a law of the Republic of Romania approved by the republican parliament (but - still - I'm also one who speaks from abroad and doesn't know the so-called "romanian realities").

Besides that, personally I find interesting and funny that those who have screamed for years that each and every Romanian constitution approved after the 1923 one were illegal acts, unlawfully approved, that "de iure" Romania should still be considered as a parliamentary monarchy, etc etc etc, are now worried that a law could possibly not be in compliance with the last (and current) of those constitutions.

A republic does not give laws about the Royal Houses. That's an absolute contradiction.

And where is it written? Who says so? It is a fact that many republics have laws regarding their former royal houses.
The proposed law would ensure that, after King Michael's death, the Royal Family will continue to have the necessary means to perform their activities; if they play their cards well, they may even succeed to persuade the majority of the Romanians that the monarchy is a useful institution and that the monarchy as a form of government could be a good thing for the country. But without such means, I cannot see how could any restoration happen.
What if the line of the more extremist and "more-royalist-than-the-king-himself" passed? In a few years you'd have the descendants of a former royal house, without any role, without a funcion to perform, without funds. People who, at a point, shoud go to find a job and live their normal, ordinary and private lives. Then please don't complain because they aren't in their (former) country full time to play the King-in-waiting.

And where is it written? Who says so? It is a fact that many republics have laws regarding their former royal houses.
The proposed law would ensure that, after King Michael's death, the Royal Family will continue to have the necessary means to perform their activities; if they play their cards well, they may even succeed to persuade the majority of the Romanians that the monarchy is a useful institution and that the monarchy as a form of government could be a good thing for the country. But without such means, I cannot see how could any restoration happen.
What if the line of the more extremist and "more-royalist-than-the-king-himself" passed? In a few years you'd have the descendants of a former royal house, without any role, without a funcion to perform, without funds. People who, at a point, shoud go to find a job and live their normal, ordinary and private lives. Then please don't complain because they aren't in their (former) country full time to play the King-in-waiting.

It is a pity you do not read the comments of the Romanian royalists on what's going on.

Oh, yes, of course, I forgot that for some odd reason one day the Romanians should call the Prince of Hohenzollern to be their King, who will for sure out of nowhere leave his life in Germany to become King of the land where his great-great-uncle once reigned...

Anyway, if this is the premise and if the "descendants of the King" won't have any place in the future Romanian monarchy, why are the romanian royalist personalities worried that the compromise might cause some harm to the monarchy?

Look at the former royal families in Germany: Hannover, Bavaria, Hohenzollern, Lippe, Württemberg, Hessen, Baden, Waldeck-Pyrmont, etc. All of them have made agreements with the state and with the various Bundesländer. For an example the State of Bavaria still pays an annual compensation to the Wittelsbachers, almost 100 years after the collapse of the monarchies. These former royal families still enjoy wealth, reside on their ancestral castles, are living from family assets and explore vast dominions: the former royal and aristocratic families are by far the biggest private landowners in Germany.

Before the current Romanian republic, the immensely royal and darkblue blooded Michael was an impoverished man, living with his equally immensely blueblooded Bourbon-Parma spouse out there in Switzerland, cut off from all and everything he once owned in Romania. In the current republic King Michael has been acknowledged by presidents, he has addressed the republican Parliament, the republican Government has returned properties and gave (and still give) assistance in finances, in staffing, in houding, in facilitating. They even allow Romanian military to have a ceremonial role connected with the former royal family. In fact a semi-formal position for the former Royal House woul be a great and symbolic recognition of the non-official coexistence sinct the fall oj Frauces u.