- He believes gay sex should be a criminal act, adding that privacy is not a constitutional right.- Says that getting your child a college education is akin to getting your child "brainwashed".- Said that he "doesn't want to make black peoples' lives better".- Told a sick kid who complained about the price of his medicine "People have no problem paying $900 for an iPad, but paying $900 for a drug they have a problem with. Why?"

Benevolent Misanthrope:bobbette: Benevolent Misanthrope: bobbette: "I can't believe he went full Catholic theocrat in this, his most prominent speech to date.

They always do. Every "good" Catholic I've ever known eventually finds a way to shoehorn persecution of Catholics into any conversation. The other day for example - my Catholic boss and I were talking about library statistical models one minute... and then suddenly I found myself in a conversation about how Galileo was wrong, and Kepler - a Catholic, by the way - was the one in the right, and how Catholics didn't think the earth was flat in the Middle Ages, and how that was Washington Irving writing history and he was a virulent anti-Catholic, and how it was all part of the usual persecution and slandering of Catholics in the world of science...

Um... Yeah.

You know, I expect things are far more religious in America but... I know plenty of Catholics and they never talk about persecution. I expect you know more Catholics, but they just tend to be discreet.

CapnBlues:Funny how Clinton was the most anti-gun president ever and the only limitation he ever managed to pass was a ban on specific makes and models of firearms and on the manufacture but not sale of high-capacity magazines.

I still own two of those high-capacity magazines purchased during that time.

Benevolent Misanthrope:bobbette: Benevolent Misanthrope: bobbette: "I can't believe he went full Catholic theocrat in this, his most prominent speech to date.

They always do. Every "good" Catholic I've ever known eventually finds a way to shoehorn persecution of Catholics into any conversation. The other day for example - my Catholic boss and I were talking about library statistical models one minute... and then suddenly I found myself in a conversation about how Galileo was wrong, and Kepler - a Catholic, by the way - was the one in the right, and how Catholics didn't think the earth was flat in the Middle Ages, and how that was Washington Irving writing history and he was a virulent anti-Catholic, and how it was all part of the usual persecution and slandering of Catholics in the world of science...

Um... Yeah.

Umm, persecuted? Not so much since JFK was elected, although there are some fundies who believe we are servants of the anti-Christ. But the church has taken a hard turn to the right recently. I guess to gain market share from the fundies, I don't know.

phritz:Let me get this straight ... in Minnesota, a fairly normal midwestern state (Bachman's district notwithstanding), the supposed front runner is well under 20% - basically, vote totals you'd expect from a fringe-candidate. Am I reading this wrong?

Unfortunately, even though upper midwestern states have a lot of normal people they also have a lot of farking baggers.

- He believes gay sex should be a criminal act, adding that privacy is not a constitutional right.- Says that getting your child a college education is akin to getting your child "brainwashed".- Said that he "doesn't want to make black peoples' lives better".- Told a sick kid who complained about the price of his medicine "People have no problem paying $900 for an iPad, but paying $900 for a drug they have a problem with. Why?"

Anyone else want to add to this list?

I will. They had 9 candidates. 7 of them said, "let's continue sanctions against Iran, and back up Israel if they want to attack Iran." Ron Paul said, "Let's stop messing with both Iran and Israel, no aid, no sanctions, no starting wars for anyone." And Santorum said, "Let's just go to war with Iran regardless of what Israel says".

- He believes gay sex should be a criminal act, adding that privacy is not a constitutional right.- Says that getting your child a college education is akin to getting your child "brainwashed".- Said that he "doesn't want to make black peoples' lives better".- Told a sick kid who complained about the price of his medicine "People have no problem paying $900 for an iPad, but paying $900 for a drug they have a problem with. Why?"

Anyone else want to add to this list?

some new ones:

- Wants to go to war with Iran- Doesn't believe in global warming, having referred to it as "junk science"- He has stated a policy of "drill everywhere" for oil and that there is "enough oil, coal and natural gas to last for centuries"

- He believes gay sex should be a criminal act, adding that privacy is not a constitutional right.- Says that getting your child a college education is akin to getting your child "brainwashed".- Said that he "doesn't want to make black peoples' lives better".- Told a sick kid who complained about the price of his medicine "People have no problem paying $900 for an iPad, but paying $900 for a drug they have a problem with. Why?"

Anyone else want to add to this list?

Rape victims should "make the best out of a bad situation". Hey raped women, god's giving you a gift, your rapist's offspring! YAY"I think the right approach is to accept this horribly created -- in the sense of rape -- but nevertheless a gift in a very broken way, the gift of human life, and accept what God has given to you." - Rick Santorum on the upside of rape

In 2005, Santorum authored a bill that would have shut down the public-facing Web sites of the National Weather Service, Storm Prediction Center, and the National Hurricane Center, despite the fact that this information is gathered using taxpayer funding and millions of Americans rely on this information daily to do their jobs or keep their families safe. His argument was that disseminating this information is not an inherently governmental function, and that people who want it can get it from the private sector for a fee.

Of course, the fact that AccuWeather is located in Pennsylvania, and the fact that the AccuWeather folks were big Santorum donors had absolutely nothing to do with this bill.

Fortunately, this was such an obvious case of influence peddling that the bill didn't even attract a single Republican co-sponsor, and it died in committee.

- He believes gay sex should be a criminal act, adding that privacy is not a constitutional right.- Says that getting your child a college education is akin to getting your child "brainwashed".- Said that he "doesn't want to make black peoples' lives better".- Told a sick kid who complained about the price of his medicine "People have no problem paying $900 for an iPad, but paying $900 for a drug they have a problem with. Why?"

Anyone else want to add to this list?

I will. They had 9 candidates. 7 of them said, "let's continue sanctions against Iran, and back up Israel if they want to attack Iran." Ron Paul said, "Let's stop messing with both Iran and Israel, no aid, no sanctions, no starting wars for anyone." And Santorum said, "Let's just go to war with Iran regardless of what Israel says".

He also said "My wiggly weiner is totally hitting on me right now!". So...I am calling it a wash.

bobbette:Benevolent Misanthrope: bobbette: Benevolent Misanthrope: bobbette: "I can't believe he went full Catholic theocrat in this, his most prominent speech to date.

They always do. Every "good" Catholic I've ever known eventually finds a way to shoehorn persecution of Catholics into any conversation. The other day for example - my Catholic boss and I were talking about library statistical models one minute... and then suddenly I found myself in a conversation about how Galileo was wrong, and Kepler - a Catholic, by the way - was the one in the right, and how Catholics didn't think the earth was flat in the Middle Ages, and how that was Washington Irving writing history and he was a virulent anti-Catholic, and how it was all part of the usual persecution and slandering of Catholics in the world of science...

Um... Yeah.

You know, I expect things are far more religious in America but... I know plenty of Catholics and they never talk about persecution. I expect you know more Catholics, but they just tend to be discreet.

Well, I was talking about "good Catholics" - the kind that go to mass every week and believe it's a sin not to, don't use birth control, you know - the ones like Santorum. Most Catholics I know don't talk about it at all. But Santorum seems to be running on it for fark's sake.

And I have to laugh - I just think back to Kennedy and the trouble he had with the Republicans bashing him for being Catholic...

phritz:Let me get this straight ... in Minnesota, a fairly normal midwestern state (Bachman's district notwithstanding), the supposed front runner is well under 20% - basically, vote totals you'd expect from a fringe-candidate. Am I reading this wrong?

You're not, and as another Farker explained, Minnesota has trended red outside the Twin Cities for the last few decades. And Bachmann's district is Derp Central, make no mistake.

Oh god, please let there be a brokered convention. I promise I will definitely deny your existence less fervently than before. Bonus points for 1968-style riots and shootings involving geriatrics and baby boomers.

Benevolent Misanthrope:OK - I'm looking at Google politics (since I don't have cable any more) - rolling over the counties, someone tell me these are precincts and not numbers of actual votes. Example:

Sedgwick County, CO - 100% reporting

Santorum 28Romney 22Gingrich 7Paul 5

That's a total of 62. Which is 62 precincts, right? RIGHT???

/Kee-reist, no one is voting this year at all.

It's the northeastern corner of Colorado. 62 is probably 80% of the Adults in the whole county. This state isn't like the east or west coast, we've got Denver, Colorado Springs, Pueblo and Fort Collins, Denver being the major city and capital. over 50% of the state is Rural. Add another roughly 15% State and National Park and 20% uninhabitable (Rocky Mountains, they're ROCKY!) that isn't included in those State and National Parks. I wouldn't be surprised if Archuleta and Mineral counties came in with under 20 votes each.

Car_Ramrod:What the hell was that song at the end of Ron Paul's "Generic Ron Paul Speech" speech? Did anyone else hear speakers with female singers saying "Wake up!"?

It sounded to me like Ron Paul has a theme song now, with everyone chanting RON PAUL in the chorus. I had never heard it before, but I don't hang out in Ron Paul circles on the internets. Where are their websites? Are they still just on Digg and upvoting everything RON PAUL on Reddit? I need to infiltrate the Paulites.