Ahmet Davutolu: “Prime Minister said that in current conjuncture, this attack (on Suleiman Shah Tomb) must be seen as an opportunity for us.”

Hakan Fidan: “I’ll send 4 men from Syria, if that’s what it takes. I’ll make up a cause of war by ordering a missile attack on Turkey; we can also prepare an attack on Suleiman Shah Tomb if necessary.”

Feridun Sinirliolu: “Our national security has become a common, cheap domestic policy outfit.”

Ya?ar Güler: “It’s a direct cause of war. I mean, what’re going to do is a direct cause of war.”

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Feridun Sinirolu: There are some serious shifts in global and regional geopolitics. It now can spread to other places. You said it yourself today, and others agreed… We’re headed to a different game now. We should be able to see those. That ISIL and all that jazz, all those organizations are extremely open to manipulation. Having a region made up of organizations of similar nature will constitute a vital security risk for us. And when we first went into Northern Iraq, there was always the risk of PKK blowing up the place. If we thoroughly consider the risks and substantiate… As the general just said…

Yaar Güler: Sir, when you were inside a moment ago, we were discussing just that. Openly. I mean, armed forces are a “tool” necessary for you in every turn.

Ahmet Davutolu: Of course. I always tell the Prime Minister, in your absence, the same thing in academic jargon, you can’t stay in those lands without hard power. Without hard power, there can be no soft power.

To summarize: a recording confirming a NATO-member country planned a false-flag war with Syria (where have we seen that before?) and all the Prime Minister has to say is the leak was "immoral."

Erdogan is not amused:

Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan described the leaking on YouTube on Thursday of a recording of top security officials discussing possible military operations in Syria as "villainous" and the government blocked access to the video-sharing site.

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"They even leaked a national security meeting. This is villainous, this is dishonesty...Who are you serving by doing audio surveillance of such an important meeting?" Erdogan declared before supporters at a rally ahead of March 30 local polls that will be a key test of his support amid a corruption scandal.

"To summarize: a recording confirming a NATO-member country planned a false-flag war with Syria (where have we seen that before?) and all the Prime Minister has to say is the leak was "immoral."

From Robert Hare’s Checklist of Psychopathy Symptoms:

2. GRANDIOSE SELF-WORTH — a grossly inflated view of one’s abilities and self-worth, self-assured, opinionated, cocky, a braggart. Psychopaths are arrogant people who believe they are superior human beings.

4. PATHOLOGICAL LYING — can be moderate or high; in moderate form, they will be shrewd, crafty, cunning, sly, and clever; in extreme form, they will be deceptive, deceitful, underhanded, unscrupulous, manipulative and dishonest.

5. CONNING AND MANIPULATIVENESS: the use of deceit and deception to cheat, con, or defraud others for personal gain; distinguished from Item #4 in the degree to which exploitation and callous ruthlessness is present, as reflected in a lack of concern for the feelings and suffering of one’s victims.

6. LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT: a lack of feelings or concern for the losses, pain, and suffering of victims; a tendency to be unconcerned, dispassionate, coldhearted and unempathic. This item is usually demonstrated by a disdain for one’s victims.

14. IMPULSIVITY: the occurrence of behaviors that are unpremeditated and lack reflection or planning; inability to resist temptation, frustrations and momentary urges; a lack of deliberation without considering the consequences; foolhardy, rash, unpredictable, erratic and reckless.

and most relevant:

16. FAILURE TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR OWN ACTIONS: a failure to accept responsibility for one’s actions reflected in low conscientiousness, an absence of dutifulness, antagonistic manipulation, denial of responsibility, and an effort to manipulate others through this denial.

This explains ALAFCO's old Malaysian Airlines 777-200ER that was supposedly sold to GA Telesis last November for parting out. Only the 777 never made it to Telesis' Florida dismantling shop. Telesis already parted out one othe Malaysian Air 777 last August. It was two serial numbers away from this one, and two serial numbers away from the Flight MH370 777.

Last known location was Tel Aviv airport, an unusual location for a Kuwaiti company to store any aircraft.

ALAFCO also leases aircraft to Turkey and Ukraine.

Afraid they've gone well beyond a single dimension circle, Knuknes. It's some sort of a geodesic dome mobius that requires many hands.

The deafening silence of Turkey's allies is a strong indication that NATO is behind it. If it would be against NATO's intentions and they would be surprised about it, you bet that the peace nobel laureate would already telepromt and Germany's chancellor Kamierczak and Hollande would already demand consequences for Turkey and the exclusion from the NATO.

What I don't understand is why so many people think government is so important. Its like the are all a bunch of inbreeds incapable of reasoning. Everything .gov touches turns to shit, yet these idiot sheep BAAA for ever more of it. Other than roads and bridges, and plowing the snow, I see little use for government. Libraries are for sissies.

Well, where I live the roads are shit, the bridges need repair, and the city is considering an ordinance that closes some streets after a certain level of snowfall. Good luck getting to work if your street is chosen.

But you still can go out on the street at night. And women can go out, too.

That your car can be found where you left it, is also a result of a government.

And if someone attacks you, you can call 911, also a result of an existing government.

That you can write here and read, since you are not part of the 1%, is also a result of an evil government.

You libertarians sit in your warm rooms in front of a computer, the refrigerator filled and you write how beautiful it would be without a government? You are like these Bolsheviks who talk about proletarians and politics, while they are drinking and smoking in their saloons.

Or like these people that believe how wonderful and romantic life 200 years ago was - while they sit in a lit room, take a quick warm shower, go to the refrigerator fetch something to eat and continue with their intelligent conversations!

If you want a glimpse how things are, if the executive order collapses, which only exists because of a government, switch of electricity for three days.

And this does NOT mean, that any current government in the western regime was a good government! But they are thousands of times better, than the jungle's anarchy.

"You libertarians"? Why reference Libertarians when you are talking about anarchists? Libertarians don't want to be without a government but want limited government in place of more individual freedom. You even referenced 'anarchy' in your final statement but for whatever reason tried to associate Libertarians to this. And by the way, I would ANY DAY OF THE WEEK, give up my 'luxurious accomodations' and conveniences of today in order to be without tyranny. And if you wouldn't then you are part of the problem.

Why is it the fault of libertarians, and not the people who lusted for power and grew government and entitlements to unsustainable levels. People like you had to have more, and more until it couldn't be sustained, so now we'll all pay the price. This isn't the fault of libertarians who have almost no political power until recently, it's your fault.

My pondering comment… remote rural communities were/are in most nations self-reliant. An accident has always resulted in neighbours jumping in to help with skills passed down and learned from each other or from active training through an informal network. When help wasn't needed you're generally left alone to make your own life through your own labours - may not be perfect but for many people its a happier life being left to be responsible for oneself and able to help if needed.

For those who look for govt to do this'n’that for them, there often seems to be much bitching about how much the govt should be doing in between satisfying their monotony with shopping and mass media and the search for something else to be responsible for making things as 'wonderful' as they 'should be'.

But ‘wonderful’ is a hollywood story. A good life always required work and effort and dealing with hardship with as much humour and good faith as you can muster to ride the bad bits (which can be a mix of bad times and pure monotony).

I wonder sometimes if we are go through the teenage years of conflicted parental-authority and independence only to then choose governmental authority and dependence as we move into the "real" world of jobs, bills, taxes and the monotony that it can bring us? Are we avoiding the reality of life by obsessing about what govt must do instead of what "I" can and should do?

No town has ever been perfect but once industry is offshored, jobs go, the drugs are brought in (with some heavy backing) then imperfect turns to worse and more govt is sought to fix what they fucked in the first place…are we being played?

Well, silly fool, prove to me that the market would be less able to create a better society than the really shitty job government does. That is your claim, right?

In the 20th century, numerous governments totally failed to provide what the people wanted and there is no indication in the 21st century that it can do any better.

Government is a negative sum game and exists only as a detriment to society. It always has, look at history - 400 million deaths by government in the 20th century.

BTW, your stupid examples show that you believe the market incapable of providing goods and services when it the government that fails over and over. Here, the public electric power provider completely blew it out its ass after an ice storm and the power was out for up to two weeks while we had sub-zero temperatures. A nearby private power company with a larger customer base restored the power in five days. The first day they were bringing in crews from out of state while .gov power did nothing.

Hey ORI. Great talk! I shared it with my partner, and it's now making the rounds among my folks around here. I, myself, have been in the process of unperforming for the past decade now. It has been a wonderful journey.

This Link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXFmo6WipNk , I am Fishead, identifies the characteristics of the typical Corporate Phsycopath. You guys might find it interesting. I'm working for the model depicted in this video right now.

Exactly. The term sheilded only applies to the level of your ability to measure. Our ability to measure is off the charts anymore, and it is why we are not as worried about containers as they would leave us to believe. Thus the need for a very fast airborne delivery system. If I was Pakistan, and I had the weapons, I would purchase some old 737's and simply fly them into the country from various points on the map. Air burts are more effective anyway.

Mass destruction need not be total destruction over a large area. If you set off a dirty bomb the economic costs can be in the billions. Imagine terrorists (or false flag ops) setting off a dirty bomb atop a Manhatten high rise. Blocks around would be contaminated and evacuated and the clean up would take months with the economic disruption (closing perhaps Wall St or Broadway) costing billions.

You may be right, or how about this. They don't neccessarily go to war but when someone does or someone allows a nuke to be used in a place not in Russia or the US. It makes the world markets crash and then the US can blame the nuke and crazy countries for causing the economy to implode rather than the banks and the govt..

I dont know if anyone would ever use nukes... Seems like their existence is to scare domestic populations. The use in japan was more of a way to scare the jap public into surrendering as the emperor was already prepared to give up. The japs would rather kill themselves than accept defeat. That presents a problem in a central banked themed monetary system.

Emperor of japan to usa: " yeah can u just nuke us because these people wont take no for an answer " did the japs even have any war crime trials after the war? Nothing like germany for that matter.

Yes but the US has been a bit gung-ho with nukes ever since and now other people want to do what Khrushchev did when he had the launch codes in those missiles on Cuba ready to remodel US cities and Kennedy was unaware

Meeting with his tax attorneys. They might be able to get him and the Mrs.'s down to an 7% rate for FY13,14 so he can "afford" to pay 35% in FY15 for the 2016 presidential race required disclosures. Its the smart move. Dollar cost averaging.

Dammit, Thailand is blocking my video feed I can't see it I can't see it.....

......they said it was a violation of the Kingdom of Thailand cultural values to access beastialty sites ...... I swear to God I thought I was watching Candy Crowley..... anyway they no believe No YT for me....

Turkish (to me) sounds like a series of grunts, snorts and throat clearing gaacks. I learned a few polite words, but the Turks never understood me, and gave me that 'you foreigner' glare. I carried a knife and a roll of nickels everywhere. Just sayin.

How do you destroy the West's empire? Just tell reveal the truth to its 'citizens' and watch the fireworks as the realisation of the true extent of their 'leaders' hypocrisy comes home, revelation by revelation.

There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know.

A NATO member is involved in creating a false flag op which would bring the whole alliance into war and all NATO allies remain silent and are not outraged and you write, it was leaked from this side? Sure Shlomo.

The deafening silence of Turkey's allies is a strong indication that NATO is behind it. If it would be against NATO's intentions and they would be surprised about it, you bet that the peace nobel laureate would already telepromt and Germany's chancellor Kamierczak and Hollande would already demand consequences for Turkey and the exclusion from the NATO.