Can Idzik, Rex and Woody get us a QB who can be elite? If yes, then Idzik will be viewed as a success. If not, he'll be a failure just like Tanny & co.

Unfortunately, in 2013, it's all about the QB and ours is one of the worst starting QBs in the history of the NFL. ugh...

trade Revis? If it helps us get rid of Sanchez and acquire a good QB, ok then I'm all for it.

This team will suck as long as Sanchez is the starter. No HC, GM or Owner can change that.

I wouldn't say it all comes down to getting a QB. Id say thats about 85% of it. The other 10% is o-line and wr's. The last 5% belongs to the defense with some play makers who can come up with stops here and there in big time situations.

Idzik not a Mike T clone

Ivy league math major vs a lawyer. Spent his whole life in a football family and played in college. Mike T got into the game much later in his life and doesnt have a shred of football DNA. Also, Mike T somehow got to GM role 10 years faster. Idzik much more qualified.

Per the below link, MikeT did a bunch on his own. Drafting Hill is a good example since Ryan didnt like him. So, he ignored his staff and traded up for a player that wasnt popular.

I'm guessing that Rex also didnt want Tebow since he never got him on the field. Seemed like a quiet rebellion.

I also sense that Idzik will give out less information like the Giants do. We need to shut up as an organization and win games to get media support. Right now our image is a bunch of loudmouth clowns. We need to fix this

I actually got the opposite opinion. He isnt going to come out and say it is his way or the high way, but I get the feeling he is going to break all tie breakers in the room. He just doesnt strike me as the type of guy who likes to draw attention to himself.

The only thing I might disagree with SAR on is in regards to the Personnel Dept., given it was Mr. T/Rex who made the numerous trades of draft picks to move up in the draft, and the stories of how the Personnel Department wanted Freeman, and then Kaepernick, and not wanting Stephen Hill, but were overruled. Add to that the reason Clinkscales left was because of constantly being overruled, then I have a hard time holding them overly accountable.

Let's turn Jets Insider into a fan club and rub each other off as we discuss how great we are, how we're a twelve-win team, and how the Super Bowl is right around the corner.

Sound good?

SAR I

This response, every foolish word does not explain how someone without an even a basic grasp of the English language could take the word collaboration and be convinced that it means we're looking at one person having control.

The only thing I might disagree with SAR on is in regards to the Personnel Dept., given it was Mr. T/Rex who made the numerous trades of draft picks to move up in the draft, and the stories of how the Personnel Department wanted Freeman, and then Kaepernick, and not wanting Stephen Hill, but were overruled. Add to that the reason Clinkscales left was because of constantly being overruled, then I have a hard time holding them overly accountable.

Do you have a link to any/all of those accounts? I've heard them repeated, but never actually seen them myself.

I have heard Rex say that he was anti-Stephen Hill and if you are suggesting that the scouting department was against him, who was for him?

"Making the final decisions, when I say being collaborative, that's genuine, so my role is to develop consensus and provide direction. So that when we make decisions they are Jet decisions. I may hand in the card, but we make the decisions together. As far as my background, I have been around players since I was knee-high, I have had a myriad of different perspectives which I can lend to the Jets."

"I am the consensus builder. It's a collaborative effort."

It's the same old story with Tannenbaum's old staff and Rex Ryan too. Might as well have kept Mike, at least he's been working on player personnel for the past 6 years.

SAR I

Just because it will be a collaborative effort does not mean he's going to let Rex make the calls, it means he wants imput from everybody before he decides. And there is nothing wrong with that.