Exactly what it says on the tin: What game has left you feeling the most deflated, out of anything that's come out since 2005? It doesn't have to even be a "bad" game, per se, but something that you thought was going to be amazing, but fell far short of your expectations.

I'll tell you why. When word first got out of a console FPS with over a hundred players per map, I was like "sweet!". I had played some massive-scale FPS games before, like Planetside and Joint Operations, and they were always amazing. The sheer madness of those two games, mixed with more modern technology, sounded like a match made in heaven. Then the game came out.

It was a mess. The guns felt all off, the maps were poorly balanced, the spawn system was absurd, and the lack of variety in the gameplay was damning. So, you've got these massive maps that you need to traverse on foot, all while a hundred enemy players are running around looking to kill you. You parachute in, and you start going. You wish there were vehicles to shorten the travel time, but no luck. You get maybe halfway to where you want to be when a sniper perched on the other side of the map takes you out with laser accuracy. Now, you're stuck waiting in a spawn pool for 30 seconds while shit goes to hell. Then, you spawn in, have to make just as long a trek into a different part of the map, your squad separates and starts to camp on different corners of the map, and you think, well, fuck, I'll still go for the objective, only to be killed from across the map by a different guy, this one with a SAW, because apparently you can do that. Then, when enough players do go for the objective, they're funneled through chokepoints in the map where one guy with a SAW can mow down a dozen enemy players, and keep doing that until they run out of ammo.

Red Dead Redeption. I always thought a "GTA with horses" would be gangbusters and sell like hotcakes. I was right about the selling but wrong about it being a great game (to me). John Marsten is a total idiot and the environment was real boring. I also didn't like having to unlock cool western outfits, couldn't I just go to a store and outfit my cowboy the way I wanted? Can we get an Oblivion with guns and horses up in here???

What a steaming pile of crap that was! Let's just take everything everyone likes about the Armored Core series and throw it out the window and start anew. The series really peaked at Armored Core: Last Raven. All we need is an HD update of that.

Second place goes to Killzone 2 and 3, and I like both of the games. But the problem is I liked part 1 the best, and 2 and 3 weren't made for the people like me who actually liked part 1, instead they were made for everyone else who didn't like part 1. Let's just get rid of all the best things about Killzone 1. Let's get rid of all the interesting weapons, let's get rid of the secondary fire mode that most weapons had, let's turn the enemies into bullet sponges that take way too many shots to die, and let's make everyone look all bulky like a bunch of overstuffed pigs. Oh yeah and let's make the single player experience one big set piece.

Diablo III. I wanted to love this game so much, but now I don't even feel the slightest curiosity to load it again to see what recent changes have been made.

You see, when the most basic design decision behind a game is "how to make as much money as possible from it", then so much can go wrong. They could not charge a monthly fee, so they used the Auction House for that. It's so much part of the game that you feel compelled to use it. Yes, you can do without it, but only if you can afford a lifetime of tedious repetitive gameplay just trying to find decent items. It's so much part of the game that when you read a guide for a character, half of it is a buying guide.

I could go on, but I think I'll stop here. Part of the disappointment is expressed by not wanting even to explain anymore.

The thing related to gaming that has disappointed me the most this gen isn't even a game, though there have definitely been disappointing games, which I list below. (prepare for a long post)

Nope...the absolute most disappointing thing related to gaming for me was the absolute disgusting negative response from a very vocal segment of the gaming audience to Anita Sarkeesian's proposed project with death threats, site attacks, bigoted images, on and on. But most of all, I think it did highlight a disturbing overall mentality that the big budget gaming industry and vocal parts of audience have been projecting. I think it definitely highlighted that, yes, there is a problem, and that made me somewhat ashamed to be a gamer.

More so, it shows that there is a chunk of gamers out there who are so against the mere idea of having a discussion about how games portray certain demographics and ideas, that may or may not be harmful.....hence the need for a discussion.....but nope, apparently some are so threatened by the mere idea of a discussion they lash out in the most vulgar ways. With this kind of mentality, is it any wonder segments of gaming feel so stagnant and backward.

In terms of actual games....granted, I honestly haven't expected much from this gen, at least the big budget portion, so it's not exactly hard to be disappointed when I'm already not expecting much....still, there were a few standout disappointments that I initially had high hopes for.

In terms of games....my #1 disappointment this gen definitely goes to Resident Evil 5.
.....Resident Evil 4 was one of my favorite games from last gen, so much that I bought it multiple times. The initial previews of RE5 looked promising.....but what a letdown of a game it was.
With forced and annoying co-op and too much of an emphasis on combat and action, RE5 literally took all the awesomeness and goodwill that RE4 had brought to the series in a much needed way, and ruined it.

Another big disappointment.....The Silent Hill HD Collection.
How they managed to mess this up is beyond me.....If I was trying to ruin a HD collection on purpose, I couldn't do it as bad as this one did.
This is heightened by the fact that this should have been the easiest HD collection to make, since Silent Hill 2 and Silent Hill 3 have technically been available in "HD" since 2002 and 2003 with the PC versions, which still look great even today and already featured high quality textures and effects and high resolutions.
All they had to do for the HD collection was to take what has already existed since 2003 with the PC versions....make it widescreen (which the community already did with patches)... and optimize them and port them to PS3 and 360....Bam!....should have been the easiest HD collection ever, since it already technically existed in some form.
But nope....not only does the "HD" collection not look nearly as good as the PC versions that have existed since 2003.....but in many aspects it's missing features that the PS2 versions had and isn't even as as good as the PS2 versions from over a decade ago....how the hell does that happen?
Throw in some crappy voice re-dubbing (particularly for SH3), because Konami was too cheap to work out a deal with the original voice cast....which caused a whole incident....as well as multiple delays.....and you literally have the worst HD Collection....no....the worst overall re-release I have ever seen.
What's sad is Silent Hill 2 and Silent Hill 3 are excellent games and they represent a time when the Silent Hill series was at it's peak. It would have been nice to have seen them get a proper HD treatment, they certainly deserve it....unfortunately, that's not what happened.

Other disappointments this gen....

- F.E.A.R. 2 - the original F.E.A.R. was a kinetic and awesome FPS that featured great gun-battles and excellent atmosphere. The sequel felt underwhelming.

- Mafia II - I loved the original Mafia, it's one of the my favorite PC games with an excellent story. When they announced a sequel, I was jumping for joy, especially when seeing what initially looked like gorgeous screenshots. Then the final product released with an unlikable and empty protagonist and a story that was a shadow of the original's.

- God of War III - This is the game that ruined the God of War series for me, a series that was once one of my favorites. GoW III was one of my most anticipated games...I bought it right way, and was met with disappointment. Sure, it had excellent visuals and great combat....but the atmosphere and story just wasn't there that the previous games had....in addition, Kratos, who had always been an anti-hero, but still interesting in previous games....became a flat out douche in GoW III....and he wasn't the only one. Supporting characters suddenly took on personalities and turns that didn't make sense. All this was topped off by one of the most disappointing endings I've seen....to me an absolute crappy way to close out a once great series. Hopefully the upcoming God of War: Ascension can be a return to form....but after the letdown of GoW III, I'm not getting my hopes too high.

- Dreamfall: The Longest Journey - I'm counting this since it was released in 2006. The Longest Journey is one of my most beloved games of all time....and for the longest time I was waiting for a sequel. When Dreamfall was first announced, I couldn't have been happier. I remember saying that all I wanted was a story that matched the excellent original.....well, be careful what you wish for. Dreamfall did indeed deliver an excellent story on par with the original....unfortunately, that's the only thing it had going for it....the gameplay, puzzles, and most of all the ending were severely lacking....while having poor combat and stealth tacked on in the game. Hopefully the upcoming Dreamfall Chapters, which is finally in pre-production after years, will be a return to form...and will deliver an excellent complete package and ending along with a great story.

- Unreal Tournament III - What was this? This didn't at all feel like UT....it felt (and looked like) like Gears of War in first person....which I didn't care for at all.

- Modern Warfare 2 - I really enjoyed Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, and I liked World at War.....but Modern Warfare 2 is where I began to despise the series and where to me it turned mindless and jingoistic.

- Far Cry 2 - Why they called this "Far Cry 2" I have no idea....cause it felt nothing like Far Cry.

Wasn't expecting much cause I saw the writing on the wall and had a feeling that most likely the direction these games took wouldn't be for me....still, I did feel disappointed when that proved to be true in more ways then one.

- Max Payne 3 - I saw the writing on the wall, but still held out hope that it would still feel like the good ol' Max Payne games that I loved.....it didn't, not at all. It didn't feel like a Max Payne game at all, as I've read described accurately, it felt like "Man on Fire" the game rather then anything related to Max Payne.

- Silent Hill: Homecoming - I had already been disappointed with Silent Hill 4, which is where my disappointment with the series began and where it had already tainted what had previously been an excellent series before that. Still, I was cautiously optimistic Homecoming would at least be an quality side-story that would at least be a return to form for the brandname....instead, it was much worse then my disappointment in SH4....much worse...and Downpour was even worse. Aside from Shattered Memories, which I hear is pretty decent on it's own even if it isn't on the high level of the original three games, the Silent Hill name has been completely dragged through the mud this gen.
The Silent Hill series has literally become the definition of a once excellent but now fallen brand. I always felt that the series should have concluded on a high note with Silent Hill 3. To me, Silent Hill 3 was the last great and last true Silent Hill title (not to mention it wraps up the original's storyline well), no surprise since it's the last game in the series that Team Silent had full creative control over and the last game the more prominent and creative Team Silent story creators were directly involved in.
But starting with Konami's Marketing departments meddling which resulted in Silent Hill 4 (when it wasn't initially planned to be a SH game)....as well as the disbanding of Team Silent shortly after the release of SH4....and now the SH series has not only become a shadow of it's once great self....but almost a joke.

The biggest gaming disappointment since 2005: The Nintendo Wii. If I could go back in time I would stop myself from buying one.

The biggest game disappointment: For me personally, it was Halo 3: ODST. Boring and short campaign, mediocre new multiplayer mode and a few new maps. All for the price of a full retail game. It could have been worse but it wasn't good.

P.S. Yes, Perfect Dark Zero was absolute crap. I remember playing the demo and it was a total WTF moment for me.

Red Dead Redeption. I always thought a "GTA with horses" would be gangbusters and sell like hotcakes. I was right about the selling but wrong about it being a great game (to me). John Marsten is a total idiot and the environment was real boring. I also didn't like having to unlock cool western outfits, couldn't I just go to a store and outfit my cowboy the way I wanted? Can we get an Oblivion with guns and horses up in here???

but saints row 3 was kinda dissapointing i was so excited to play the game i played and beat 1 & 2 multiple times and then saints 3 comes out out im actually invested in the saints row universe the whole story i cant wait for the next chapter then....the story just was not great no OMG moments lets kill johnny gat in the beginning make it piss of shaundi give you a few choices in the story that dont change much lets SPOILER (i guess) kill the main bad guy early in the story get rid of most activities lets also give you the one and only story changing choice then the end where you either have to let two more of your friends die or go through a bulls#!t mission that turns the game to red faction for some reason aaaaaaand after the "red faction" mission lets give a even worse ending that makes you think the whole game was a f###ing movie!!! even though all this the game is still a great fun game just dont get it for the story if you liked SR2 pretend this game takes place in a alternate universe cause as far as im conserned SR3 story dosent have anything to do with SR1 & SR2

Diablo III. I wanted to love this game so much, but now I don't even feel the slightest curiosity to load it again to see what recent changes have been made.

You see, when the most basic design decision behind a game is "how to make as much money as possible from it", then so much can go wrong. They could not charge a monthly fee, so they used the Auction House for that. It's so much part of the game that you feel compelled to use it. Yes, you can do without it, but only if you can afford a lifetime of tedious repetitive gameplay just trying to find decent items. It's so much part of the game that when you read a guide for a character, half of it is a buying guide.

I could go on, but I think I'll stop here. Part of the disappointment is expressed by not wanting even to explain anymore.

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Diablo 3. I actually managed to finish the game without spending money on items, but it was... unpleasant to say the least. And such an unsatisfying ending for all that trouble "Congratulations! You've defeated Diablo 3!" It's just such a bastardized version of what Blizzard used to be. It's world of warcraft meets ebay over gameplay and balance.

Red Dead Redeption. I always thought a "GTA with horses" would be gangbusters and sell like hotcakes. I was right about the selling but wrong about it being a great game (to me). John Marsten is a total idiot and the environment was real boring. I also didn't like having to unlock cool western outfits, couldn't I just go to a store and outfit my cowboy the way I wanted? Can we get an Oblivion with guns and horses up in here???

Also I lied. The game that really disappointed me this generation is Alpha Protocol. I was really looking forward to that game and hoping it would be a mature, satisfying take on the spy genre. This generation is begging for a contemporary RPG and AP was as good a shot as we had but Obsidian really fucking blew it. The first sign of trouble was when the real world locations became touristy caricatures. Thus Taipei went from being a take on contemporary Asian metroplexes to "the asian level" replete with pagodas, dragons, circular doors and every other kung-fu movie set stereotype. The characters also when from semi-plausible spy types to ridiculous Metal Gear Solid rejects. Throw in the poorly implemented shooting mechanic, terrible puzzle mini-games, the lazy skills system, the greatly reduced character customizations, a dumb plot, missed opportunities (the email system is great until you realize there's not much to do with it), the cheesy romance options and lackluster writing (this is the one thing Obsidian is supposed to be good at!) and Alpha Protocol fails on every single level one might judge a game by. Every single one. I so wanted to love this game and gave it every chance but I must say I haven't played a more complete failure of a game than Alpha Protocol.

Damn. I cannot remember the main one. There have been several. Among them was L.A. Noire. But there's another one I remember ranting and whining about, not too long ago. I remember saying that it had "so much potential" and that I "wanted" to like the game, but couldn't.

Diablo III. I wanted to love this game so much, but now I don't even feel the slightest curiosity to load it again to see what recent changes have been made.

You see, when the most basic design decision behind a game is "how to make as much money as possible from it", then so much can go wrong. They could not charge a monthly fee, so they used the Auction House for that. It's so much part of the game that you feel compelled to use it. Yes, you can do without it, but only if you can afford a lifetime of tedious repetitive gameplay just trying to find decent items. It's so much part of the game that when you read a guide for a character, half of it is a buying guide.

I could go on, but I think I'll stop here. Part of the disappointment is expressed by not wanting even to explain anymore.

Nope...the absolute most disappointing thing related to gaming for me was the absolute disgusting negative response from a very vocal segment of the gaming audience to Anita Sarkeesian's proposed project with death threats, site attacks, bigoted images, on and on. But most of all, I think it did highlight a disturbing overall mentality that the big budget gaming industry and vocal parts of audience have been projecting. I think it definitely highlighted that, yes, there is a problem, and that made me somewhat ashamed to be a gamer.

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Oh, come on, let's be honest. That chick's an annoying ****. I'd fuck her, no doubt, but she's still a ****. Everything in her warped worldview is contorted by two things. Item one, if it's pop culture, it's misogynistic. Number two, PAY ATTENTION TO ME DAMMIT!

I'd be surprised if it was even hardcore gamers that attacked Sarkeesian. It seemed to me it was more like 4chan kiddies. It wasn't really about the video game issues for them; it's more of just an excuse to be a bunch of twats.

I had low expectations for RDR to begin with, so I wasn't too surprised when I didn't enjoy it. If I have to go with one game, it's Final Fantasy XIII. The FF franchise had been in a decline since X anyway, but XIII was so far below expectations for me. I was sad to see the franchise go this route.

As far as the most disappointing game of this generation goes, it's neck and neck for me: Syndicate and L.A. Noire.

I was more than ready to love both games when I purchased them, but Syndicate is terrible. It's the blandest game since Kane and Lynch. Corridors + Dubstep + boring gameplay. It broke my heart because I loved Starbreeze so damn much.

And L.A. Noire, man, I'm a sucker for hard-boiled detective stories. Doesn't matter what it is: Chandler or Hammett or whatever, doesn't matter. I love the genre.

L.A. Noire is so boring. It's actually more fun to watch the game on youtube than to play it.

I'm disappointed you spelled 'disappointed' wrong three times when the word is in the topic name.

Resident Evil 5 was pretty disappointing. I really liked 4 and didn't like 5 at all.

RDR was a bit of a mixed bag. It didn't offer the depth of most GTA games. It was really good at first and did a good job of capturing a good unique atmosphere, but didn't really have lasting appeal (except Hold'em, the Hold'em game was really fun)

Demon's Souls ws really ambitious. And I'm sure under different circumstances, and if I wasn't so stubborn, I might have liked it. But I played it for like 40+ hours and got literally zero seconds of enjoyment out of it, so I'd have to call it a disappointment.

Final Fantasy XIII though probably wins. It was thoroughly the worst game I've played in years, and that's coming from someone who didn't MIND the setting or the story (though the characters were pretty awful).

I do have to make a slight mention for Sleeping Dogs, because while it is a very polished and well crafted title in the vein of GTA IV and while I am quite pleased with it and have been enjoying playing it, as a successor to True Crime (re: Content Orgy), it is a bit disappointing. TC:NYC I could play for hours and hours without taking on a single mission. SD really doesn't offer near as many things to do, explore or unlock. I don't even get radio stations or MP3s!
For $25 though, it was a great buy, don't get me wrong.

1) He's stupid. Who goes alone to challenge a guy holed up in a fort with an unknown number of armed body guards and the high ground? A jackass, that's who.
2) He's everybody's errand boy. No task is too great, too small or too insignificant for Marston. Come all callers Marston's your guy, no questions asked. Again, jackass.

How am I supposed to guide this guy through who knows how many hours of gameplay if I don't even respect him?

GTA4 and RDR were both disappointing but GTA4 was more disappointing. RDR at least I didn't mind the campaign and actually finished it, and found some of the multiplayer fun. But once the fun wears off it never comes back. And it's not really fun in the first place unless I was smoking weed.

It's too bad because I liked RDR's setting, the guns, the animals, the ragdoll/enemies reaction to being shot, but the game really was less than the sum of its parts. It just didn't have a single really good gameplay mechanic that was fun to do over and over. And money quickly became meaningless too.

My two cents on RDR: I liked the plot and atmosphere a lot, but the moment-to-moment engagement was kind of dull.

My two cents on L.A. Noire: it had its moments, and some awesome facial animation tech, but didn't really deliver as an investigation game.

Anyway, my biggest disappointment is Super Mario 3D Land. In their efforts to make 3D Mario as mass-appealing as 2D Mario, Nintendo tried to bridge the gap in all the wrong ways and ended up with a game that didn't have the best points of either half of its parentage. Still a decent game, but doesn't live up to Mario's name.

If that doesn't count, then Metroid: Other M is my next choice. I had visions of Sci-Fi Ninja Gaiden dancing in my head, but the combat was oversimplified. Again, still a fairly decent game overall, I just had very high hopes after that first E3 2009 trailer, and it didn't live up to them at all.

If that doesn't count, then Metroid: Other M is my next choice. I had visions of Sci-Fi Ninja Gaiden dancing in my head, but the combat was oversimplified. Again, still a fairly decent game overall, I just had very high hopes after that first E3 2009 trailer, and it didn't live up to them at all.

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i was going to mention that, but I just started it, I'm only a couple hours in. I keep thinking, it's gonna get good and be like Super Metroid soon! I'll give it a couple more hours though

If that doesn't count, then Metroid: Other M is my next choice. I had visions of Sci-Fi Ninja Gaiden dancing in my head, but the combat was oversimplified. Again, still a fairly decent game overall, I just had very high hopes after that first E3 2009 trailer, and it didn't live up to them at all.

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i was going to mention that, but I just started it, I'm only a couple hours in. I keep thinking, it's gonna get good and be like Super Metroid soon! I'll give it a couple more hours though

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It's not going to be like Super Metroid soon. Don't torture yourself like that. It's not bad, though. Well...I mean, the story's pretty bad. But the combat is okay and it's a halfway decent 3D interpretation of 2D Metroid's level design.

1) He's stupid. Who goes alone to challenge a guy holed up in a fort with an unknown number of armed body guards and the high ground? A jackass, that's who.
2) He's everybody's errand boy. No task is too great, too small or too insignificant for Marston. Come all callers Marston's your guy, no questions asked. Again, jackass.

How am I supposed to guide this guy through who knows how many hours of gameplay if I don't even respect him?

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i did lol at him calling out bill wiliamson at his own fort full of his own men if it wasnt for bonnie the game would have been very short and in every open world rockstar game errand boy is basicly what you are and i doubt its gonna stop with gta v coming soon

As far as the most disappointing game of this generation goes, it's neck and neck for me: Syndicate and L.A. Noire.

I was more than ready to love both games when I purchased them, but Syndicate is terrible. It's the blandest game since Kane and Lynch. Corridors + Dubstep + boring gameplay. It broke my heart because I loved Starbreeze so damn much.

And L.A. Noire, man, I'm a sucker for hard-boiled detective stories. Doesn't matter what it is: Chandler or Hammett or whatever, doesn't matter. I love the genre.

L.A. Noire is so boring. It's actually more fun to watch the game on youtube than to play it.

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oh yeah forgot about la noire there was something missing from that game......

If that doesn't count, then Metroid: Other M is my next choice. I had visions of Sci-Fi Ninja Gaiden dancing in my head, but the combat was oversimplified. Again, still a fairly decent game overall, I just had very high hopes after that first E3 2009 trailer, and it didn't live up to them at all.

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Yes...can't believe I forgot this one. I will definitely agree with you on this Other M being a major disappointment, for me more because of how I think it tainted the Metroid series as a whole and tainted the the classic character of Samus Aran.

I am the same way....I was never into Team Ninja's work, but I have to admit, when I first saw that E3 2009 trailer, I was anticipating this, since I thought Nintendo would reign in Team Ninja in terms of content and themes, while allowing them to shine in terms of combat, so overall, that E3 trailer got me excited.

The game was indeed a disappointment....more so it's a major taint on the classic series, the series canon, and most of all a classic gaming character.

I'm normally against canon retcons...but with this situation, I really hope some new excellent Metroid game comes out that does a slight story canon retcon and takes an approach that the story of Other M never existed as being series canon.

If that doesn't count, then Metroid: Other M is my next choice. I had visions of Sci-Fi Ninja Gaiden dancing in my head, but the combat was oversimplified. Again, still a fairly decent game overall, I just had very high hopes after that first E3 2009 trailer, and it didn't live up to them at all.

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Yes...can't believe I forgot this one. I will definitely agree with you on this Other M being a major disappointment, for me more because of how I think it tainted the Metroid series as a whole and tainted the the classic character of Samus Aran.

I am the same way....I was never into Team Ninja's work, but I have to admit, when I first saw that E3 2009 trailer, I was anticipating this, since I thought Nintendo would reign in Team Ninja in terms of content and themes, while allowing them to shine in terms of combat, so overall, that E3 trailer got me excited.

The game was indeed a disappointment....more so it's a major taint on the classic series, the series canon, and most of all a classic gaming character.

I'm normally against canon retcons...but with this situation, I really hope some new excellent Metroid game comes out that does a slight story canon retcon and takes an approach that the story of Other M never existed as being series canon.

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What's ironic is that it's Nintendo (Sakamoto, particularly) who screwed the pooch story-wise, not Team Ninja. All Team Ninja did for Other M was put the combat system together, which would have been excellent if not for the intentional Wiimote-only limitations...again, imposed by Nintendo and Sakamoto.

As for the next Metroid, I hope it takes a whole new story path, mostly irrelevant to the whole Mother Brain/Metroid Extinction/Fusion arc. Sort of like how the Prime games did. But I definitely don't want more Phazon/Dark Samus either. Thankfully that business seems finished, but then again, so did the baby Metroid stuff until Other M...

It's got a metacritic score of 95/100 critic's score and an 8.9 user score based on over 1300 user reviews. I liked it, Hal liked it, TP liked it. Doc didn't like it but he's an opinionated guy and DD didn't like it but you might. I'm just saying, the evidence is there that a lot of people like it and some you know think it was at least decent, to discount it just because one guy really disliked it may be a hasty decision.

If there was anything I hated about the game it was this: Everytime you redo certain missions you have to listen to some character babble on about their political beliefs (usually libertarian/right wing) and listen to the main character go "wow that's really sensible" and whatnot. The game wears on but it's got some great moments. I recall thinking "how many games have I played where the danger was that the herd was going to stampede over a bluff?" Good stuff.

As for me, I think Diablo III is the game I'm going to nominate. I'm not entirely sure how much of my disappointment in the game was related to ways in which I had changed or in ways in which they had changed the game but this third installment was considerably less enjoyable than the last --and after all of that build up and waiting, that simply isn't acceptable.

As others have said, the game was BUILT around the auction house. Drops were incredibly rare, self sufficiency was not an option, the characters didn't feel very strong as survival for long stretches of the game requires grinding to gain an advantage on the enemies or endless gold grinding for items on the non RMAH... and the people on that auction house do not have realistic expectations on the prices the charge which ends up being a problem that spreads into the Real Money Auction House where EVERY item gets put up for 250 USD (it's fortunate they limited the amount that can be charged to 250 because if they didn't every item would be listed at $999.999.99 otherwise). it's just bad, it's not fun, and constant nerfs to all character classes to continue weakening them against the enemy hoards (and penalizing them for dying by increasing the costs of repairs) doesn't help at all.

I'd advocate giving RDR a rental at least. Paying a few bucks to play it is pretty worthwhile. And if you aren't expecting to get GTA-amounts of playtime in it, it may likely be all the better.

Diablo 3 I still haven't tried yet, but even auction-house stuff aside, always struck me as the kind of game I'd be best served to pick up for $20 in a sale like Torchlight II (which I also still haven't picked up yet)

I have played about an hour of RDR, and watched my fiancee play it for even longer (while I was on my laptop doing other things), so I'm not just dismissing it without understanding the game. It is a great game and I was the first to nominate it for our GOTG competition.

I think there are many others I'd rather play for now. Borderlands 2, Torchlight 2, Assassin's Creed series, Halo 4, GTA 5.

I'm actually unsure I'll even play GTA 5 much. When I finally got around to beating GTA IV, I had a feeling of "eh, I'm done with this genre for a while." That's also probably why I kept putting off playing RDR. For that one hour I did play it, it seemed fine (I wouldn't call it "boring" which I sorta implied in my response to DD) but it just felt a lot like GTA to me.

If I had more gaming time I'd get around to it. Hmm, I could make more gaming time by cutting back on IGN time... Naaaaahhhh!

Speaking of Diablo III, I really like 1 and 2, but the criticisms of 3 have put me off. Not going to pay full price for it but like Mongoose said, might be worth it when it drops. Torchlight II is very good.

Speaking of Diablo III, I really like 1 and 2, but the criticisms of 3 have put me off. Not going to pay full price for it but like Mongoose said, might be worth it when it drops. Torchlight II is very good.

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Yeah. Despite all my criticisms, I still feel that Diablo 3 is worth playing up to level 60. I liked it better than Torchlight 2. The problem with the game is Inferno mode which is just a long boring item grind. If you want to enjoy Diablo 3, just stop at Hell difficulty. That's 3 difficulties of quality gaming, I'd say it's worth the price of Torchlight 2 sure.

Welcome to video games. He's got no money and no equipment, of course he's an errand boy. Ain't you never had a job?

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I never did what any Tom, Dick or Harry told me to do. I chose my jobs. Videogames provide at least some context for their conventions, even other Rockstar games with similar structures do this better. Marston comes off looking like a tool in a way that Nico, Tommy, CJ etc don't.

Another big disappointment for me this gen was Burnout Paradise. They butchered the crash mode and got rid of replays and they gave us a city with no pedestrians and no one in the cars. Get with the times, and if you're going to do open world driving take some notes from Midnight Club LA.

Is Midnight Club LA this generation? I had no idea that was an open world game.

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Yes it is. It's also a rare example of a third party game designed first on PS3 and then ported over to 360 (and has a graphical edge on PS3).

It has a very good balance of arcadeyness and sim (arcadey burnouts and boosts and real world cars and locations). Some very good car customization options.

It also supports the Logitech G25 very well, and it's one of the games that a normal controller really doesn't do justice. Playing this game on the Logitech with the seamless open world and detailed cockpits and inside car view is tremendously immersive.

Welcome to video games. He's got no money and no equipment, of course he's an errand boy. Ain't you never had a job?

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I never did what any Tom, Dick or Harry told me to do. I chose my jobs. Videogames provide at least some context for their conventions, even other Rockstar games with similar structures do this better. Marston comes off looking like a tool in a way that Nico, Tommy, CJ etc don't.