One bonus for Barack Obama (D-IL) as he campaigns in Indiana is that so many friends from his home state can just drive across the state line to help him out.

Then again, it's also a short trip for the occasional hometown pol who has been crossed by Obama, such as one featured guest doing the Hoosier tour today.

Joining Chelsea Clinton and other women leaders to campaign for Hillary Clinton today is Alice Palmer, the former state senator who picked Obama to be her successor back in the mid-90s. When she tried to reclaim her spot, though, Obama got her booted from the ballot.

The day of campaigning culminates tonight with a "Women for Hillary" rally in New Albany. The women plan to talk about Clinton's plans for the economy, job creation and the middle class.

Palmer's story is more familiar in our town it is in Indiana, even in the northwest section of Hoosierland that consumes so much of the Chicago news media. Still, the national press has shown an interest in the early account of Obama playing hardball, and Palmer's presence may remind some of them of the story.

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Remember the folks you meet on your way up. They're the same folks you'll meet on your way down.
Something every 20 and 30 something oughta remember.

Oh, I'm sure, Obama has ruffled some feathers in his political life - but this is the first such story I've seen of a former Obama colleague working for Clinton... whereas there are thousands heading from the Clinton Team to Obama's.

Obama plays hard ball, abrassive and corrossive politics the chicago style. Ms. Palmer's experience is not a new news only that news media has decided to look the other way while presenting Obama's fairytale angelic picture perfect candidacy. We are yet to discover the true Obama because of the media collusion. Thanks for bringing this to light.

Bill is rejecting his old Black friends being FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT so now he can appear to be WHITE to lock the bigger WHITE VOTE.

CLINTONS = DIVIDERS.

Unfortunately, as CLINTONS already lost Chinese, Latinos, Blacks, Urban people forever, they can only WIN when VOTING is within DEMOCRATIC PARTY and when it goes to NOVEMBER, CLINTONS will be ROOTED OUT by McCain/GOP.

This woman picked Barack Obama personally to replace her so she could run for higher office. When she did not win it, she came back and asked Obama to drop out of the race. Having already began his campaign, he refused to step aside. She tried to get herself on the ballot Obama contested her petition and found most of the 700 some signatures to be invalid.

Obama isn't on the way down. Palmer should have had her signatures together. You don't face down both the Clintons and the right-wing attack machine, as Obama has done, by treating politics as tiddlywinks. His rearing in Chicago-style politics will be a big asset when things get even nastier down the road. G'Obama.

The comment by "Obama stepped on Alice's neck" reflects the whole Hillary supporter mentality . . . that our leaders should be party operatives who wait for their turn and then are somehow entitled to what are supposed to be democratically elected positions, and not appointments. I guess I'm one of those crazy, unrealistic Democrats who thinks that democracy is more important than bureaucracy.

Finally, I want to say a word about the basic decency I have seen in Mr. Obama. Mrs. Clinton continues to throw the Rev. Wright up in his face as part of her mission to keep stoking the fears of White America. Every time she does this I shout at the TV, "Say it, Obama! Say that when she and her husband were having marital difficulties regarding Monica Lewinsky, who did she and Bill bring to the White House for 'spiritual counseling?' THE REVEREND JEREMIAH WRIGHT!"

I am an Obama supporter and agree with the New York Times editorial board that the Clinton campaign has been responsible for most of the damaging negativity. However, bringing Alice Palmer into Indiana is fair game and Obama supporters should not complain about this. This is tradional politics, not Rovian smear.

I had previously read from an Obama IQ Quiz about Obama booting others from the ballot in Il., so this is not news to me. Also, from the same quiz, there was a recounting of Obama and a Senate colleague almost coming to blows because Obama mistakenly voted wrongly, which resulted in the elimination of a child welfare office in the colleague's district.

In addition, Obama earned the rep of "gutless" and "absent". I guess this explains all his present votes.

With all of Obama's misstatements and deceptive advertising, I, for the life of me, don't understand how some people will dare call Hillary a liar, and yet, not place the same label on Obama.

Hillary has been under a much more strict microscope than Obama ever has, and I think she looks more honest than most any human could given this fact. We judge her so much harder than we do ourselves of course.

Factcheck.org points out many misstatements by Obama, and corroborates many of Hillary's claims. Maybe his supporters should check this out.

After reading the story on the link- it looks to me like Palmer is a hypocrite who went back on her word- (perfectly in tune with the candidate for whom she is stumping) and Obama is a politician who is tough enough and smart enough to work within all legal rules to get things done. Isn't it Hillary who is going around claiming how tough a fighter she is?...looks like Obama has the experience playing tough politics. Maybe that is why is beating the candidate who had all the advantages...of course he has been helped by her incompetence.

I think most of Obamas supporters are just so defensive about anything and everything. Just like "Anitas" comments above - Its like looking at a glass full of water and choosing to believe that the water is salt water without even tasting it first. I feel really very sorry for you for being so narrow minded.

That's a spot on assessment, anita...It's a big Doprah show on Hillary's side, except the former is an Obama stumper mostly due to color I'm sure. It's funny how hypocritical we are as a species...everything is ok if we're doing it, but when someone else starts up it's suddenly outrageous. Who cares about any of this, for Hillary is done and now it's up to the voters to decide between a good change or another step backward.

The Anti-Hillary sentiment grew from the Anti-Clinton sentiment due to the Lewinsky Scandal. I will never understand why so many people just hate her - and have no other reason other than Bill. I have asked and not many can make it past that. OR the fact that we need "fresh blood" in teh White House (mind you HW Bush and W Bush - ?) Hillary has been through the ringer and knows what needs to be done. She's been there done that... you know? Obama is an idealist whereas Hillary is a realist. Hope is a great thing to have but you gotta have action behind the hope and Hillary has proven she has always had the nation in mind. I don't know Obama and there is so much spin out there that is PRO/AGAINST that I cant make heads or tails of what he truly stands for. This has been a smear campaign from the get-go and anyone saying it was anyones fault has been misled. They both are responsible for how escalated things have gotton. I just hope that when this is all over and the Dem is fianlly chosen we will all beable to come together to overcome McCain. But I don't think the Democraic Party will have the ability to even do that. Do you? If so stop the Anti-Hillary and Anti-Barack sentiment. Understand the other sides and come to a consensus and understand that we are in this together. Divided we fall. Come together and we can take thsi country back.

the system is against women. women need to get together and support each other (rather than cat fighting). imagine if a guy were surrounded by a bunch of girls. then there would need to be a guy support group. that's not sexist, that's just trying to overcome unfair barriers in our system to put well-qualified people in positions of power within the system.

What is Obama's side of this story? It's not even mentioned in any way. This is a typical Chicago Tribune/Christi Parsons hatchet job. Prepare to see more of this as the election nears. The Trib and Christi have already made their choice and are campaigning for John McCain.

Thank God, this is America and we can pick and choose, who we wish to support. Ms Palmer is entitled to support whomever she wishes to support. I hope, if Senator Clinton is not successful, that she would re-consider, and resume her support of Senator Obama. Democratis, in November!!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE. NOW.

Christi, you write,"reclaim her spot"when it should read,"have her cake and eat it." She ran for a higher office and lost and then wanted her old job back. Sounds to me like, Alice and Hillary are two peas in a pod, both think the office they are running for belongs to them.

I'm tired of Clinton getting a free pass from the media so she can be free to destroy the Democratic Party. The only reason she's still in this race is because she's a self-obsessed psychopath and we already have one of those in the White House.

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over the hill feminists burning their bra's and their brains for Clinton's lies |
April 26, 2008 1:11 PM

Pretty clever to call it "Women for Hillary", as it's a good excuse for the crowd shots at her speeches. I was struck (and I usually don't notice such things, so I don't know if this is new or an ongoing trend) that in a photo this week of Hillary giving a speech, EVERY person in the crowd in back of her was female. Maybe men just don't go to Hillary speeches. Any thoughts?

Obama is the product of the Illinois/Chicago political arena. Since getting out of Harvard they have been preparing him politically and with money, for this place he is at, running for President. He can not hide from the hard questions regarding his character, judgments, or associations. His relationship that he so desperately defends will be his downfall. The American voter will not except, don't ask and secretive policies, he has developed regarding these issues. Elitism is a belief and an arrogant attitude that one is superior to others. Those persons hold deep insecurities which they defend against by holding themselves a cut above others. Obama presents himself as a person of entitlement to the Presidency! Watch out the walls are starting to fall down around Obama, people can now see through him and what they see they do not like!

It's time for everyone to face the truth. Barack Obama has no real chance of winning the national election in November at this time. His crushing defeat in Pennsylvania makes that fact crystal clear. His best, and only real chance of winning in November is on a ticket with Hillary Clinton as her VP.

Hillary Clinton seemed almost somber at her victory speech. As if part of her was hoping Obama could have defeated her. And proved he had some chance of winning against the republican attack machine, and their unlimited money, and resources. In all honesty. I felt some of that too.

But it is absolutely essential that the democrats take back the Whitehouse in November. America, and the American people are in a very desperate condition now. And the whole World has been doing all that they can to help keep us propped up.

Hillary Clinton say's that the heat, and decisions in the Whitehouse are much tougher than the ones on the campaign trail. But I think Mr. Obama faces a test of whether he has what it takes to be a commander and chief by facing the difficult facts, and the truth before him. And by doing what is best for the American people by dropping out of the race, and offering his whole hearted assistance to Hillary Clinton to help her take back the Whitehouse for the American people, and the World.

Mr. Obama is a great speaker. And I am confident he can explain to the American people the need, and wisdom of such a personal sacrifice for them. It should be clear to everyone by now that Hillary Clinton is fighting her heart out for the American people. She has known for a long time that Mr. Obama can not win this November. You have to remember that the Clinton's have won the Whitehouse twice before. They know what it takes.

If Mr. Obama fails his test of commander and chief we can only hope that Hillary Clinton can continue her heroic fight for the American people. And that she prevails. She will need all the continual support and help we can give her. She may fight like a superhuman. But she is only human.

Sen. Hillary Clinton: "You know, more people have now voted for me than have voted for my opponent. In fact, I now have more votes than anybody has ever had in a primary contest for a nomination. And it's also clear that we've got nine more important contests to go."

If you think like Barack Obama, that WORKING CLASS PEOPLE are just a bunch of "BITTER"!, STUPID, PEASANTS, Cash COWS!, and CANNON FODDER. :-(

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary’s than they had ever been before or since.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..

You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)

Best regards

jacksmith... Working Class :-)

p.s. You Might Be An Idiot! :-)

If you don't know that the huge amounts of money funding the Obama campaign to try and defeat Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering...

You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the audacity, and nerve to try and get quality, affordable universal health care for everyone to prevent the suffering and needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of you each year. :-)

Approx. 100,000 of you die each year from medical accidents from a rush to profit by the insurance, and medical industry. Another 120,000 of you die each year from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don’t die from. And I could go on, and on...

When is America going to wake UP? Just stop and think what he will do once in office. As much as he tries to hide his true character, little by little what he is all about is coming to the surface. Early primaries were won by him because his past was hardly known. I am repulsed every time I see or hear him speak.

Obama’s political career was bankrolled by the same gang that planned to make Blagojevich president. For instance, Fortunee Massuda, another participant identified in the “pay-to-play” schemes, contributed $25,000 to Blagojevich compared to $2,000 to Obama. Michel Malek, another participant, threw $25,000 to Blagojevich and $10,500 to Obama.
Ali Ata, another guy listed as a co-schemer in one indictment, was made executive director of the Illinois Finance Authority, and he contributed $25,000 to Blagojevich and $5,000 to Obama.
Jay Wilton, identified by prosecutors as a major contributor to Blagojevich, is the owner of Wilton Partners, a construction company in California. He donated $50,000 to Blagojevich shortly after his firm cinched an $83 million contract with the state to refurbish the Illinois tollway’s oasis rest stops. Wilton also gave $5,000 to Obama.
Joe Cari donated $15,000 to Blagojevich but only gave $1,335 to Obama.
A trial exhibit produced by an FBI agent, identifies major contributors who donated $1.43 million to Blagojevich between 2001 and 2004. The Chicago Sun-Times compared the exhibit to government campaign records on Obama and found he received more than $220,000 from many of the same donors between 2001 and 2004.
John Roger, the head of Ariel Capital, an investment firm that ended up with major money from the pension funds, is on the FBI’s summary of Blagojevich’s top contributors. He also gave Obama $25,000.
Rogers is a member of the finance committee for Obama’s presidential campaign. Rogers also served on the campaign finance committee for Obama’s US Senate run with Tony and Rita Rezko, Allison Davis, and Myron “Mike” Cherry.

If Clinton were truly a realist as was mentioned earlier, she would drop out of this race and put her support behind Obama. If she's truly concerned that he'll have a hard time against the GOP, maybe she could...provide advice?

Her mistakes are the same as W in Iraq. She underestimated her opponent, didn't have a plan to finish the job, yet refuses to withdraw at the expense of many. If she was a realist, she would have known she had a serious opponent and planned on a long battle.

I'm also dismayed at the focus on Obama not "closing the deal" or why can't he win over old white people. He's won over most other demographics and if Clinton could manage her own campaign, she would be the nominee right now.

The only way Obama folks can make a point is to bad mouth and blame Hillary.
They are responsible for they're part for all the hatred in this country. Obama folks don't want to talk about issues,. They'd prefer to be consumed by hatred. It's so easy to point a finger than to stand up and do what is right.
When the Obama babies finally grow up, hopefully look they outside themselves long enough to understand why women continue to fight against oppression. It's been prevailent since the beginning of time, much longer than the oppression of other minorities. Mysoginism is real as is minority hatred. Grow up!
Think about someone besides yourselves for once

i think the "women for hilary" is as sexist an organization as they come.... how about men for obama or blacks for obama.... let's vote on merit, not sex or skin color.....
anita
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Sexisst?? And you don't think Rep. Clyburn little rant and BO surrogates playing the race-baiting card again is based on merit?? Give me a break.

Are all you Senator Obama supporters blind. When has the MSM been supporting Sen. Hillary R. Clinton as someone above suggested?
To whoever said that Sen. Hillary R. Clinton has lost the black, Latino and Asian vote, go check again becasue she hasn't. It is Sen. Obama who has. Sen. Obama, his campaign and supporters call everyone who doesn't vote for him racist. Asian Americans and Latin Americans were angry in CA for being called racists for not supporting him.

This article says: "Joining Chelsea Clinton and other women leaders to campaign for Hillary Clinton today is Alice Palmer, the former state senator who picked Obama to be her successor back in the mid-90s. When she tried to reclaim her spot, though, Obama got her booted from the ballot."
However, the last two sentences in the Chicago Tribune article say Alice Palmer has not decided whom to endorse: "Though she hasn't determined whom to support in the presidential race, Palmer, 67, said her dispute with Obama doesn't affect her assessment of his fitness to hold office...I am looking closely to see who has the courage, the smarts."
Frankly, the Swamp article is misleading and incorrect, especially since it doesn't indicate Palmer's signatures were improperly collected.

We need someone with a good memory!
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The question has lingered since it arose last week during the federal corruption trial of Antoin "Tony" Rezko: Why, just weeks after winning the Democratic U.S. Senate primary in 2004, would Barack Obama attend a party for a

controversial Iraqi-born billionaire

whom Rezko was trying to lure into an investment?
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In an interview Friday,

Obama didn't deny

the assertion by Stuart Levine, the government's star witness in the Rezko trial, about the party honoring Nadhmi Auchi, a British citizen who is appealing a fraud conviction in France.

Obama SAID he didn't recall the event.

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O well ... my memory is not great
either ... but I can remember every party I went to in the past four years.... and the difference in Sunni and Shia .... McCain AND Barack,
have memory problems

I would hate to think that my choices made at age 46 would not carry more wisdom than those I made at 34. Most people of goodwill make an effort to better themselves as they go.

However...

Obama made legal challenges that were upheld as legal. Palmer and others have admitted they fell short of that standard, sufficient so that Palmer carried no chip on her shoulder a year ago. She was still considering voting for Obama then.

Your title is thus misleading. Palmer encouraged his entry into the race and said some nice things about him. And while their relations seemed cordial, nothing indicates they were 'friends'. Your title leaves the unspoken implication that a friend is now rebuking Obama, but in reality, she was a peer who was briefly a political opponent who ultimately decided Hillary would get her support.

That she now claims her encouragement was not really an endorsement is the perfect indicator of the depth of that 'friendship.' It was hardball, but he telegraphed his pitch to Palmer from the outset, so it certainly seemed aboveboard, legal, and even fair.

I had an interesting conversation with a couple of close friends who happen to be Obama supporters. When I asked why, they both mentioned they really disliked Clinton because of Bill, and like Obama's speeches and his youth. When I challenged them on more tangible grounds like experience, Obama's alleged associations with Rezko, or his track record in the Senate, they were totally clueless. One of them actually said "I guess I should do some research before I vote". Too many people are treating this election as a audition for American Idol. We are poised to hand over the most demanding and powerful job in the US based on looks and rhetoric? People demand more from the guy behind the McDonald's counter than the person who may be leading us into another war.

Barack Obama is not a bad person, but nor is he a viable candidate for the highest office in the land. The man is a veritable rookie, in a time when the complexities of our every-shrinking world call for politicians who understand the *entire* spectrum of complexity that we face. Obama is by far the most passive agressive candidate that I've even seen; he has let the press and everyone else make race an issue - as he stands by to look like the victim...when, in fact, it's Obama who has played this race hand so deftly (he's no fool). He has stood by and watched Hillary be attacked by the most outrageous sexist attacks, and not one PEEP about that - you'd think he would say something on behalf of his black sisters. Nope, not a peep. If Obama gets the nod, he is going to be slaughtered by McCain, because Obama is NOT MLK, and McCain is not Bush. Obama will find himself playing defense, both on his non-record, ,and the negatives that are already out there, with more to come out. Obama is an "inspirer", not a leader. He has oratorical gifts when standing in front of a teleprompter, but he's not very deft in off-the-cuff responding. I hope Hillary takes this right to the convention floor. One thing for sure, I and many, many of my moderate liberal Democratic friends will probably not vote for Obama; he's not someone I - and most moderates I know - are willing to follow. We know Hillary isn't perfect, but we do know about her considerable record of liberal accomplishment. What do we know about Obama - that he talks pretty, and has almost no record on anything of substance. If he gets the nod for the Dems, this voter will simply be "present" in November, like millions of others, who have had enough of the fawning left-liberal sector of the Democratic Party that knows nothing more than running on "hopes and dreams", until they get into office, where they ultimately accomplish NOTHING! This is a centrist nation; Hillary is a liberal centrist candidate. Only she can beat McCain. GO HILLARY!!!

Women for Hillary is not sexist. There is nothing wrong with a group of disparaged and discriminated against people getting together to fight for what they believe in. This country has a long tradition of that, from the early feminists onward. To say that women for Hillary or any group of feminists for Hillary is sexist is ignorant of our American history. Women SHOULD support Hillary!

Hey, what the heck is the big deal...that was then with Palmer, this is now...she decided, for whatever reason, to work with Hillary...end of story..stop writing your on narrative on why she is helping out. For goodness sake, let it go..

CR--Women for Obama isn't sexist per se, anymore than the public school in a predominantly Muslim (women to the back of the bus, please, willingly) country was a Muslim school.
But given the "ladies against women" manner that Michelle Obama BEGAN her campaign, saying if Hillary couldn't 'handle' her house, how could she 'handle' the white house--I think it is sexist.
There's a secret acceptance, I think, societally, and possibly among church board of trustees or whatnot at Rev. Wright's version of a Church of Christ mega church (6,000 people can attend and do weekly).
So, not sexist per se---it's all kinda sub rosa.
Part of the deal.

Do I understand your group? A white person who says anything negative about Senator Obama is a ‘racist’? A black person who supports Senator Clinton is a ‘sell out’? A black male who doesn’t support him is ‘hater’ (wish I had a dollar for the number times I’ve hear that one)? Are you one of the most oppressive groups of people in American history?

Some of you Obama supporters complaining that it's sexist for Hillary to have "women for Hillary" meetings have probably not visited Obama's website where he has sections for women, youth, African Americans, Latinos, etc.

I don't see any problem with Hillary addressing the needs of women as a group.

Folks like to think this nation is "post-sexist." Well, the huge disparity in women's and men's earning power should remind us that's not the case--if the rampant sexism and misogyny of this primary election has left any doubt.

Hill is the right person for prez, not Obama. He just gets angry too easily and hangs out with the wrong people. She has the experience and the toughness that is needed.
C'mon Indiana, vote for Hillary!

Why would anyone call Clinton "satan" or a "psychopath?" It's so over the top that it's irrational. It reminds me of how people reacted during the Salem witch trials. It reflects badly on the people who say it rather than on Clinton.

BObama talks about "we" but refuses to honor my vote or the votes of my family or friends or neighbors. He wants to win at all costs and will say or do anything to do so, he is not the "Second Coming", just a very clever politician who won't count Michigan votes because he thinks he will lose if we are included in the delegate count. If he is nominated, he will lose in November because the conservatives are already making ads that will do him in. He has not shared enough of his past with America, so he has left it as ammunition for the far right- their primary votes went for him because they know they can't defeat Hillary. Their November votes won't go for BObama and then we'll have another four Bush years. So Sad for America.

REZKO. AUCHI. AYERS. WRIGHT. Talking about CHARACTER AND JUDGEMENT for a man who has been a FOLLOWER ALL OF HIS LIFE. GENDER IS HARDER TO OVERCOME THAN RACE. Hillary is just being treated the same way women are being treated every single in the world. To deny the nomination to this capable woman is just ridiculous. YES GENDER SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. This is the first time we have the opportunity to send a strong message to the world. Argentina, Israel, liberia, Chile, Germany, India, Pakistan, the philippines have elected a woman as president without all these narrow minded thinking and objections. A real change. Women represent more than half of humanity. We all have a mother, sisters, daugters etc... Don't they deserve a minimum of fairness after of these years of men power and stupidity. Hillary deserves to be the next president of the USA. She is TOUGH! Character - Good Judgement - Experience - Desire - Determination - Leadership. Projecting One's misery on Hillary is CHEAP and USELESS! If we can think a bit, how can we treat this woman so poorly, knowing what happens everyday to thousands of women in the US. 99% of violences against women come from men. This not OK! No man should take a woman's life, rape or abuse her. Men are good in demonstrating their power and strengh on physically weaker than them. Some even push it so far that they believe that they have the right to kill, rape, abuse,... How many women are killed or rape by men everyday in this country or the world? This is not OK. This nomination goes far behond Hillary Clinton for those who still have something between their ears besides artificial hope and pointless change. When a stupid man is doing something he is ashamed of, he always declares that it is his duty. Max

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This guy's a loser,and the proof is there, but you all refuse to admit it.

No wins in big states. [\quote]

I'm always amazed that the Hilleryites keep bringing this up. Do they think that Illinois is a not big state (where Hillary was born, and where Barak won by a significant margin), but Pennsylvania is a big state (although its population is several hundred thousand lower than Illinois)?

I just don't get their position, and I don't get why the press gives her a pass on this false claim.

You Obama haters have no clue and are afraid of real change. This guy has shown more guts than anyone in years. Moreover, he is the "living embodiment" of America's progress and its hope.

We all know why Obama has not won recently. Psst, he's a black man, and many will never be comfortable with such a notion, hence the real reason for all these excuses.

George Bush I & II, Bill Clinton, and now his wife are much smarter, and more capable, right? "How long will prejudice blind the visions of men?" People are "shaking like chickens."

The Democratic Party is about to "implode" itself just because of Hillary Clinton's antics, and I cannot wait til it happens! The two party system in America is all a "crock of bull" anyways. and you all know it.

Scott - The Anti-Hillary sentiment grew from the Anti-Clinton sentiment due to the Lewinsky Scandal. I will never understand why so many people just hate her - and have no other reason other than Bill.

Let me answer that question for you. Anti-Hillary is all because of Hillary all by her lonesome.

Hillary Clinton has a very vile and evil nature and it seemed to have rubbed off on Bill.

It was Alice Palmer who introduced the novice Barack Obama to William Ayers. She wanted to move up politically and was defeated; and then wanted back the seat she abandoned, then held by Barack. Like Ferraro, Stienem, and other (social/political players of the past) she now is trying to campaign for Hillary. She will probably meet the same fate of irrelevance as the others. They did not have much to offer then and less to offer now. Obama 08, Change We can Believe in.

Silly to attack Christy Parsons--she's a good journalist! You'd know this if this were not the first campaign season you'd been reading the newsapapers-- 'rest of the story', --STOP ATTACKING THE MESSENGER---TELL CHAIRMAN MAO AT OBAMA HQ TO QUIT SENDING OUT STUPID BLOGGERS' NOTES TO YOU.
'Fareed'--maybe where your name suggestes you come from women sit in the back of the bus, pray at the opposite side of the mosque, that sort fo thing.
Welcome to America.
'Bill for Obama', 'strut2k', 'top ten list'
'Understanding'--yes--think Chairman Mao and all those stupid Weather a**h***s who supported him--that's the obama media communique content, near as I've seen: 1. BARACK SCREWS UP
2. THE MEDIA COVERS IT
3. HILLARY, ASKED TO COMMENT, EITHER DEFERS OR IS VERY MODERATE IN HER COMMENTS.
4. BARACK ATTACKS HER.
When Hillary does something the media can pounce on, the pattern is:
1. BARACK'S SURROGATES GO FOR HER JUGULAR.
2. HILLARY THEN DEFENDS HERSELF AGAINST THE OBAMA ATTACK/MEDIA SUPPORT MACHINE
3. OBAMA HIMSELF ACCUSES HER OF ATTACKING HIM.

We need someone with a good memory!
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The question has lingered since it arose last week during the federal corruption trial of Antoin "Tony" Rezko: Why, just weeks after winning the Democratic U.S. Senate primary in 2004, would Barack Obama attend a party for a

controversial Iraqi-born billionaire

whom Rezko was trying to lure into an investment?
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In an interview Friday,

Obama didn't deny

the assertion by Stuart Levine, the government's star witness in the Rezko trial, about the party honoring Nadhmi Auchi, a British citizen who is appealing a fraud conviction in France.

Obama SAID he didn't recall the event.

........................

O well ... my memory is not great
either ... but I can remember every party I went to in the past four years.... and the difference in Sunni and Shia .... McCain AND Barack,
have memory problems

A one day vote.
Figure out Dems who've voted Dems in the majority of the last 6 elections, or, if there's a doubt--can they PROVE they worked on DEMOCRATIC CAMPAIGNS.
Exclude the Nader jerks like Mike Moore.
Hillary will win.
Hillary Can win.
We need to beat McCain and take back the white house from the repugs.
We can purge the 'left' of the fakes later.
Right now--we need to do this one thing.

It's over. Join us. Help us beat the Republicans and the real racists. (Eric Michael Dyson can kiss my grits---'white america' 'white people'--not a uniter, that Dyson. But an Obama spokesman. How interesting.)

Who is Obama? Well, if one is judged by the company one keeps, then I can only say Sen. Obama scares me. I remember Bill Ayers in the 70's, then there is Rev. Wright and finally Antoin "Tony" Rezko and Auchi. We keep saying he doesn't have a resume. Are you kidding? With a background like this, who needs one. I bet there is a whole lot more out there. I put my vote on Hillary or McCain. If the General Election was between Bush and Obama I pick Bush at least I know what he has already done and capable of doing. Also Sen. Obama is biracial. The last time I heard his mother was white and his father black. That means he won't be the first black president, biracial yes. Unless he's doesn't claim his white side. Didn't he say in a speech his grandmother would say remarks about black people when he was young that would make him cringe. How come he tolerated it from his pastor when it came to remarks about whites? I being biracial know that there is a certain mentality that is unique to being biracial. We are not quite looked upon being one or the other race.

Alice Palmer made some mistakes, but she isn't running for POTUS on a claim of 'judgement' and courtesy and unity. Her mistakes were innocent: over-optomism ... and trusting Barack Obama.

In 1995, Alice Palmer was a longtime Black activist, a "beloved elder stateswoman" in the Illinois state senate. She had a record of ??? and had earned a 'safe seat' - ie, no one even tried to run agaisnt her. She was doing excellent work for the Black activist community, and holding that seat securely for them, so they could spend their resources elsewhere.

Barack Obama had never run for office. He was a how-old wannabee hanging around the activist group/, hoping for someone to give him a boost.

Palmer had a chance to run in a special election for a higher office. She wanted someone to keep her 'safe seat' warm, stepping aside for her to have her seat back if necessary, but getting to inherit her seat if she won the higher office.

Obama was young, with an inspiring manner and an innocent grin. Palmer trusted him.

She introduced him to party elders and donors* as her probable successor, and helped him gather signatures to get on the ballot. She didn't get her agreement with him in writing. She trusted him.

Then Palmer's higher race went badly. To get on the ballot for her old seat, she also gathered signatures, all under the 1995 list of registered voters - hastily, collecting only the minimum number of signatures needed. When she and party elders asked Obama to keep his word and withdraw, offering him help in getting an additional post elsewhere, Obama refused. So Palmer prepared to let the voters decide between them.

But instead of letting the voters decide, Obama got Palmer (as well as the rest of his opponents) knocked off the ballot for her own seat. As soon as the city completed a massive purge of the list of registered voters, Obama challenged all his opponents' signatures against the new list. Some voters had moved or died, so not enough matches could be found. (Obama's own signatures were never put to the same test.)

So Obama charged Palmer with 'fraud', had her disgraced and knocked out of politics - rather than run a fair contest against her.

Running as the only name on the ballot, Obama took Palmer's safe seat. Soon he abandoned it for an unsuccessful higher office run himself. So instead of Palmer in her safe seat and Obama in another seat, their party had lost them both.

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