I think I once found a very fast (H+G)-to-2H, in which a glider assists a Herschel splitting at a T-junction. That's definitely repeatable down to p61, so together with the new H-to-2G one could build a much smaller p61 gun. Also, if it's repeatable down to p57, then we would have another glider gun true period resolved.

Alas, I don't have that (H+G)-to-2H -- it's possibly somewhere in a Life32 file on an old computer I haven't used for the last three years, if I even bothered to save it at all. It's probably easier to rediscover it; I'm sure it was just a glider striking a suitably modified L112 or L156 turn to allow another Herschel to escape.

What do you do with ill crystallographers? Take them to the mono-clinic!

calcyman wrote:I think I once found a very fast (H+G)-to-2H, in which a glider assists a Herschel splitting at a T-junction... I'm sure it was just a glider striking a suitably modified L112 or L156 turn to allow another Herschel to escape.

Awesome! Obviously, there's a lot of reduction that can be done, but I'm not very good at that sort of thing.

Unfortunately, I doubt we'll be able to get a p57 gun using these techniques. All p61 and p58 guns have relied on the classic Herschel conduit L112, which has a repeat time of 58. Even if we could find a glider-to-Herschel converter that worked at p57, we would still either need a new H-to-2G, or some way to split the streams from AbhpzTa's H-to-2G.

Sokwe wrote:Awesome! Obviously, there's a lot of reduction that can be done, but I'm not very good at that sort of thing.

Unfortunately, I doubt we'll be able to get a p57 gun using these techniques. All p61 and p58 guns have relied on the classic Herschel conduit L112, which has a repeat time of 58. Even if we could find a glider-to-Herschel converter that worked at p57, we would still either need a new H-to-2G, or some way to split the streams from AbhpzTa's H-to-2G.

I'm pretty sure the p57 conduit in jslife works as a g-H converter with the same mechanism as the p58. I'll post a working example soon.That just leaves the problem of glider separation.

Sokwe wrote:Unfortunately, I doubt we'll be able to get a p57 gun using these techniques. All p61 and p58 guns have relied on the classic Herschel conduit L112, which has a repeat time of 58. Even if we could find a glider-to-Herschel converter that worked at p57, we would still either need a new H-to-2G, or some way to split the streams from AbhpzTa's H-to-2G.

Maybe someone can find a new B->H that works at p57 (possibly with p3 assistance). That would allow first part of the L112 conduit to remain in use. Probably wishful thinking but you never know.