Post by CampCornette on Jun 12, 2019 7:29:33 GMT -5

At the end of the day Mattel is giving us what wwe is giving its audience. Stale product that no one is asking for except for what they want to do. Instead of Hollywood Hogan let’s do a $30 Nakamura and 19 different versions of the same figures in a top talent line. It’s why both the line and the product is suffering

And like WWE, this problem didn't happen over night. We're 2 years into lines constantly being killed or barely even getting off the ground, stale repaints, missed opportunities on potentially hot figures (Goldberg, Jinder), and overall lack of availability at retail. They clearly either didn't understand what retailer and consumers want, or don't have the ability to deliver it. So they handed the keys to the car over to the major retailers, and half way through the year I think the results (and my interest) is as bad as ever.

It's a shame, because from a design perspective I think Mattel has been at the top of their game for the most part.

I agree, and to go a step even further, you say design wise Mattel is on top of their game. if you think about the talent on the roster and how much potential they have and how much most if not all of it is being squandered by awful writing and booking, the parallels are all there. In the combined years they are all on the main roster has Owens, Zayn, Cesaro, Nakamura, Etc had any matches better than some of the ones they’ve had in nxt? Not to mention Styles Rollins Bryan Richochet, etc etc. getting back to Mattel, their product is top notch but who is forcing their hand with these bad lineups/lines/case breakdowns? Another Vince?

Post by stc13 on Jun 13, 2019 15:56:46 GMT -5

And like WWE, this problem didn't happen over night. We're 2 years into lines constantly being killed or barely even getting off the ground, stale repaints, missed opportunities on potentially hot figures (Goldberg, Jinder), and overall lack of availability at retail. They clearly either didn't understand what retailer and consumers want, or don't have the ability to deliver it. So they handed the keys to the car over to the major retailers, and half way through the year I think the results (and my interest) is as bad as ever.

It's a shame, because from a design perspective I think Mattel has been at the top of their game for the most part.

I agree, and to go a step even further, you say design wise Mattel is on top of their game. if you think about the talent on the roster and how much potential they have and how much most if not all of it is being squandered by awful writing and booking, the parallels are all there. In the combined years they are all on the main roster has Owens, Zayn, Cesaro, Nakamura, Etc had any matches better than some of the ones they’ve had in nxt? Not to mention Styles Rollins Bryan Richochet, etc etc. getting back to Mattel, their product is top notch but who is forcing their hand with these bad lineups/lines/case breakdowns? Another Vince?

I'd love to know what David Vonner's impact/influence is. When he was announced as the new manager for the line some people acted like he was going to have a huge impact.

He posted here once or twice and I don't think has had any public presence since at toy shows or online communities. He joined Mattel in 2017, which would seem to match up with changes to basics, Bill designing Elites only, and some other changes in the product. Not saying he's had a positive or negative impact, but it was something that was treated as huge news at the time and hasn't really been mentioned since.

Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 18:13:46 GMT -5

Who ever is in charge of basics needs to have a long hard look at themselves and ask if they are doing everything they can to make these the best they can be. Because the bar is now so low I firmly believe my dead nan's dead neighbours dead dog could do a better job.

Post by Elitemainia on Jun 14, 2019 8:44:22 GMT -5

At the end of the day Mattel is giving us what wwe is giving its audience. Stale product that no one is asking for except for what they want to do. Instead of Hollywood Hogan let’s do a $30 Nakamura and 19 different versions of the same figures in a top talent line. It’s why both the line and the product is suffering

You are completely right Mattel needs to start making figures we want and stop making the figures of the same guys

Post by CampCornette on Jun 14, 2019 9:17:19 GMT -5

At the end of the day Mattel is giving us what wwe is giving its audience. Stale product that no one is asking for except for what they want to do. Instead of Hollywood Hogan let’s do a $30 Nakamura and 19 different versions of the same figures in a top talent line. It’s why both the line and the product is suffering

You are completely right Mattel needs to start making figures we want and stop making the figures of the same guys

I get that kids want to top guys but if you walk into target there’s at least 4 very similar Rollins or Styles

Post by Elitemainia on Jun 14, 2019 9:39:20 GMT -5

You are completely right Mattel needs to start making figures we want and stop making the figures of the same guys

I get that kids want to top guys but if you walk into target there’s at least 4 very similar Rollins or Styles

That's what I'm talking about my Walmart has 6 nakamura and 4 AJ and that's all the elites they have on the shelf my kids ask for them and I tell them no cause they don't need the same figure of the same guy every series

Post by Kill Em' All on Jun 15, 2019 1:38:42 GMT -5

There is plenty of big stuff they could, technically, still show, but not stuff I'm expecting. I have virtually none of my WCW or ECW wants. Raven, Scott Steiner, Sandman, Jerry Lynn, Kidman, Bagwell, we don't even have an ECW version of Rhino. We don't even have a 2001 version of Rhyno and we never got one of RVD, either. How about a 94 Lawler, or, lord forbid for the sake of Triple H's kids, a Chyna.

Hollywood Hogan isn't even a big reveal at this point. It's a " Finally!" because we should already have him type of deal. 99-01 hHh falls into the same category. Where the is it? It's his most iconic attire and we're going on a decade without it. But hey, can't wait for that Ultimate Edition Nakamura, Bill!

I honestly think the 00 Triple H has gotten to the point of where it's become a funny game. Fans begged for it in the legends line in 2010. Then we continued to ask for it in to show up as flashback. Remember the PPV Basics line? That actually was cool line imo. They give us WrestleMania 21 HHH, again no hate. But, like you get my point. In Elite 23, we get flashback. And we start thinking. And bam it's WrestleMania 15 HHH. Even with, the Summer Slam seires HHH. Which I love, but still. Then we continue on. I mean hell in 2011, I am sure their was hype for the Defining Moments HHH to be from Royal Rumble 00 or something. They make Hall of Champions HHH, so I think it's the time right. Yeah, no. But, again... no hate. I loved that HHH. So you know I read oh WrestleMania Triple H. And bam, WrestleMania 19. Although, I loved that attire. So it's becoming this evasive game. Like Mattel's going to pull yeah were going to do a 1999 Triple H. But it'll be like the speedo version of WM 15 or one of the tights he wore. Or we will get a throwback and we'll get like of his less known attires in that era. Honestly it shocks me, we are coming into the tenth year. And haven't got one. It shocks me we didn't get one around 2012 with the Attitude Era WWE 13 hype. Or at some point by 2015. I mean honestly I am whore for Triple H figs. getting 1998 HHH, His early heel run '99, the fabled attire, Wm 20 attire, 2004-2006 era Triple H, and a updated Triple H with better headscan from 2008 era look.

Post by 2sweeeeet on Jun 15, 2019 2:07:28 GMT -5

There is plenty of big stuff they could, technically, still show, but not stuff I'm expecting. I have virtually none of my WCW or ECW wants. Raven, Scott Steiner, Sandman, Jerry Lynn, Kidman, Bagwell, we don't even have an ECW version of Rhino. We don't even have a 2001 version of Rhyno and we never got one of RVD, either. How about a 94 Lawler, or, lord forbid for the sake of Triple H's kids, a Chyna.

Hollywood Hogan isn't even a big reveal at this point. It's a " Finally!" because we should already have him type of deal. 99-01 hHh falls into the same category. Where the is it? It's his most iconic attire and we're going on a decade without it. But hey, can't wait for that Ultimate Edition Nakamura, Bill!

Yeah. It was tossed out fall of last year.

I honestly think the 00 Triple H has gotten to the point of where it's become a funny game. Fans begged for it in the legends line in 2010. Then we continued to ask for it in to show up as flashback. Remember the PPV Basics line? That actually was cool line imo. They give us WrestleMania 21 HHH, again no hate. But, like you get my point. In Elite 23, we get flashback. And we start thinking. And bam it's WrestleMania 15 HHH. Even with, the Summer Slam seires HHH. Which I love, but still. Then we continue on. I mean hell in 2011, I am sure their was hype for the Defining Moments HHH to be from Royal Rumble 00 or something. They make Hall of Champions HHH, so I think it's the time right. Yeah, no. But, again... no hate. I loved that HHH. So you know I read oh WrestleMania Triple H. And bam, WrestleMania 19. Although, I loved that attire. So it's becoming this evasive game. Like Mattel's going to pull yeah were going to do a 1999 Triple H. But it'll be like the speedo version of WM 15 or one of the tights he wore. Or we will get a throwback and we'll get like of his less known attires in that era. Honestly it shocks me, we are coming into the tenth year. And haven't got one. It shocks me we didn't get one around 2012 with the Attitude Era WWE 13 hype. Or at some point by 2015. I mean honestly I am whore for Triple H figs. getting 1998 HHH, His early heel run '99, the fabled attire, Wm 20 attire, 2004-2006 era Triple H, and a updated Triple H with better headscan from 2008 era look.

Hall of Champions? Did I miss something or are you referring to something else (like Fan Central)?

Post by LK3 on Jun 15, 2019 2:29:11 GMT -5

I honestly think the 00 Triple H has gotten to the point of where it's become a funny game. Fans begged for it in the legends line in 2010. Then we continued to ask for it in to show up as flashback. Remember the PPV Basics line? That actually was cool line imo. They give us WrestleMania 21 HHH, again no hate. But, like you get my point. In Elite 23, we get flashback. And we start thinking. And bam it's WrestleMania 15 HHH. Even with, the Summer Slam seires HHH. Which I love, but still. Then we continue on. I mean hell in 2011, I am sure their was hype for the Defining Moments HHH to be from Royal Rumble 00 or something. They make Hall of Champions HHH, so I think it's the time right. Yeah, no. But, again... no hate. I loved that HHH. So you know I read oh WrestleMania Triple H. And bam, WrestleMania 19. Although, I loved that attire. So it's becoming this evasive game. Like Mattel's going to pull yeah were going to do a 1999 Triple H. But it'll be like the speedo version of WM 15 or one of the tights he wore. Or we will get a throwback and we'll get like of his less known attires in that era. Honestly it shocks me, we are coming into the tenth year. And haven't got one. It shocks me we didn't get one around 2012 with the Attitude Era WWE 13 hype. Or at some point by 2015. I mean honestly I am whore for Triple H figs. getting 1998 HHH, His early heel run '99, the fabled attire, Wm 20 attire, 2004-2006 era Triple H, and a updated Triple H with better headscan from 2008 era look.

Hall of Champions? Did I miss something or are you referring to something else (like Fan Central)?

Don’t worry you didn’t miss anything.

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