Gary Numan Digest Thu, 11 May 2000 Volume 2 : Issue 37
Today's Topics:
Cars Release Armand Van Helden
Claire Hamill
Favorite Author
Humour : (delete)
Jo Whiley
Kraftwerk
Least Favorites (or most hated?)
Least favourite Numan track...
NUMAN items for sale
singles that should have been.
the hits that might have been
Top 20 Numan tunes
Trio
White Boys & Heroes
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Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 11:57:11 +0100
From: "Denis James"
Subject: Cars Release Armand Van Helden
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Just my own opinion of course , having bought both releases yesterday =
Monday 8th May. I am really sorry Armand, but really your scratching =
really didn't impress but irritate, after such hype I was expecting so =
much. What a great shame. How this is meant to be a club hit ??. Give =
me my original any day. In fact all covers and subsequent remixes of =
Cars were all quite interesting , even clubby and very danceable. =
"Dear Gary" , I sincerely hope that this has done you no harm. A great =
conciliation to you any way is, it just proves what a remix 'Mighty' =
Musician you really are. If there is any cash to be made from that =
record all I can say is that you deserve every penny of it. And before =
readers asume that I am just a really boring old stick in the mud, 'I =
Love clubbing and dancing !..
An even much more devoted Numanoid=20
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Just my own opinion of course , = having bought=20 both releases yesterday Monday 8th May. I am really sorry Armand, but = really=20 your scratching really didn't impress but irritate, after such = hype I was=20 expecting so much. What a great shame. How this is meant to be a = club hit=20 ??. Give me my original any day. In fact all covers and subsequent = remixes=20 of Cars were all quite interesting , even clubby and very = danceable. =20 "Dear Gary" , I sincerely hope that this has done you no = harm. A=20 great conciliation to you any way is, it just proves what a remix = 'Mighty'=20 Musician you really are. If there is any cash to be made from that = record all I=20 can say is that you deserve every penny of it. And before readers = asume=20 that I am just a really boring old stick in the mud, 'I Love clubbing = and=20 dancing !..
An even much more devoted Numanoid=20
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Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 22:17:43 +1000
From: "FJF"
Subject: Claire Hamill
To:
Can anyone advise the level of Numan content on the Claire Hamill CD 'Touch
Paper'?
Thanks in anticipation
E. Bunce
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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 14:32:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Tressler
Subject: Favorite Author
To: digest@GaryNumanFan.nu
Shawn Gean wrote:
Gary had actually been reading Clive Barker, who
happens to be my FAVORITE author... If you like
Exile... you should try the Damnation game, or Imagica
for a start... or Books of Blood if you like short
stories....
Pretty cool that Gary was reading Clive, my favorite
writer as well. My suggestion, for anyone wanting to
try one of his books, is WeaveWorld, my all-time
favorite book (until someone writes something better,
which is doubtful). Also good for the
first-time-Barker-reader is The Great And Secret Show,
probably his second-best book.
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Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 12:05:19 +0100 (BST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Linda=20Astrup?=
Subject: Humour : (delete)
To: digest@GaryNumanFan.NU
I found a quote in a book I'm reading and although it
is a generalization about the musicbiz, I still
thought this quote was quite applicable to Gary :
" .....and, as genuine innovators in a medium too used
to graceless mavericks, they [eg. Gary!] have remained
within a largely marginalized sphere of influence."
Now to a question : I'm planning to get Biblioquest
International to find Gary Numan : The Autorized
Biography book for me, but it would help greatly if
someone could tell me WHEN it was published - Thank
You!
Now to some PunFun!:
Lying in my bed a few nights ago, quite bored I was,
the melody of Cars popped into my brain (as happens
every once in a while) but the words were not quite
the same! :
"Here in the bar
I know I've started to think
about picking a fight
because no one seems bright
in bars!"
Cheers, everybody!
Linda
'So mindblowing you could've gone windsurfing!'
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Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 09:22:48 +0100
From: Matthew Tamea
Subject: Jo Whiley
To: "'Numan Digest'"
I need more sleep! Just about to go to bed last night when I noticed that Jo
Whiley was the next program on..."might as well see who's on" I thought,
despite my heavy eyelids...lo and behold, there he is...a stroke of luck
considering I never normally watch the program.
Gaz was pretty funny on it. Seems to be very pleased with Armand Van Helden,
namely cos he's getting a wadge of cash from it...oh yes, and also due to
"artistic" reasons of course!! He got very heated near the end of the show
when the group were commenting on a new song and video from Kelis (I HATE
YOU SO MUCH RIGHT NOW - AAAAARRRRGHHHHH!!!!!! - oh be quiet!). He obviously
is well pissed off with the state of British music, particularly R&B. quite
funny to watch him - I though he was going to explode. The whole thing
wasn't helped by the fact that there was some arrogant twat from Gomez on
the program as well, who was a complete arse and obviously revelled in being
so...still, made for interesting viewing!!! I thought Gaz was gonna punch
him as time went on though! HAHAHA!!!!
Matthew
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Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 10:58:28 +0100
From: thoutby@fusiongroup.co.uk (Tim Houtby)
Subject: Kraftwerk
To: "Digest"
Hello everyone
I wonder if anyone can help - I'm looking for a non-Numan item this week.
I'm hoping to get a copy of Kraftwerk at Tribal Gathering. Audio would be ok
(I think Radio1 broadcast some of their set), but I would really love to get
a good quality video of it. Does anyone have something they might be willing
to copy for me for a reasonable fee ??
Thanks
Tim.
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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 14:22:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Tressler
Subject: Least Favorites (or most hated?)
To: digest@GaryNumanFan.NU
Finally! Someone asked what our least favorite (is
that an oxymoron?) Numan tune is. I'm more than glad
to make a short list.
1. I Am Render. Winner of the OhMyGodDoesThisSongSUCK
Award. Hate It Hate It Hate It.
2. A Subway Called You. Don't know how this piece of
dung got included with some really great music on
Dance.
3. The Crazies. I'm glad I never heard this one until
1998. Wish I could erase it (and those other two) from
the CD. As the song's playing I keep expecting to hear
Fred Shneider chime in with, "Deadbeat Club!"
4. The odd, assorted songs from albums I either don't
listen to or don't own. There are several original
Numan albums I don't have yet (gasp!), but i'm
relatively sure there will be several songs that would
make this list into a Top 10.
Keep in mind that I have made every effort to TRY to
like these songs, but just can't. I used to hate "Boys
Like Me" as well until several years ago I gave it a
few more listens. Now it's one of my favorites from
Dance. So you can't say I haven't given these songs a
chance.
Mike
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Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 16:33:19 +0100
From: colin_l
Subject: Least favourite Numan track...
To: digest@garynumanfan.nu
I'm sure Gary's got quite a few himself that he considers his least
favourite. Obvious examples would be songs that only appeared as
B-sides, and others he hasn't, or can't perform live. The worst ever
mistake he made in releasing a single was the edited version of Sister
Surprise which from a epic length album openener. got edited down, and
added-on John Webb's horrid sax, and Gary's additional vocals. He
performed it on Top Of The Pops and it went down the next week. he
admitted that there is something bloody wrong if he performs a song on
TOTPs and it goes down the next week!!! Too right!!! :-) I'll look at my
collection and get back to the newsgroup on this. I f fans are honest,
they don't like every single track he recorded -Gary admits he doesn't
like every track, so be honest everyone.... Having said that let's hope
the new album is on the same level or more as Sacrifice. Colin
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Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 08:57:03 EDT
From: HateGrape@aol.com
Subject: NUMAN items for sale
To: digest@garynumanfan.nu
Upon my last visit to the Ebay auction site (Ebay.com), there were 104 Gary
Numan items listed, including T-shirts, buttons, and rare 7" singles. Check
it out!
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Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 22:03:14 BST
From: "James Chapman"
Subject: singles that should have been.
To: digest@garynumanfan.nu
Good idea this singles thing.
Replicas: Good choice!
TPP: Cars great then Metal instead of Complex
Telekon: WAG and IDYD brilliant, then I'm An Agent instead of This Wreckage
DAnce: Crash then You Are You Are
I Assassin: Can't argue with the 3 chosen - maybe Noise Noise just sneaks
infront of White Boys!
Warriors: Can't suggest anything better!
Berserker: Maybe A Child With the Ghost instead of MDM as it was released
arund Christmas time...and the song sounds a bit Christmassy IMO :-)
Fury: Tricks instaed of Miracles
Strange Charm: Anything but The Need is fine by me for a single!
Metal Rhythm: This Is Emotion instead of New Anger. Or reverser the sides of
the single.
Automatic: Excellent singles, iffy album tracks (some of them anyaway)
Outland: My World Storm and Russia Infecyed
M+S: JUst M+S and Skin Game
Sacrifice: OK, but reverser the sides of Absolution.
Exile: Dead Heaven before the album, then Angel Wars
And Pulse Bass as the next one!
Cheers
James
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Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 14:33:44 -0500
From: Val & Ben Iglar-Mobley
Subject: the hits that might have been
To: The Gary Digest
Dear all,
I like Mark's question of what songs we think should've been singles,
and his list definitely includes some superlative songs, but I have a
different take on it. I think songs should get picked to be released as
singles not necessarily because they're better songs, but because
they're catchy. They should have some kind of hook. After all, the
single isn't really an honorific intended to designate the superior
songs from an album, but really is meant as a commercial for the full
album. It's meant to grab the ear of the average listener (and not
necessarily that of the devoted fan) and draw her or him in.
Thinking in those terms, here are the songs I think could've qualified:
Listen To The Sirens
The Dream Police
Me! I Disconnect From You
Praying To The Aliens
Films
Remind Me To Smile
Crash
Strange Charm
Respect
Generator
Love And Napalm
...and the absolute #1, most obvious, hands-down, no-contest, clearest
example of a song mistakenly being passed over for a single:
The Angel Wars
Now, we should of course bear in mind that, given the Gary black-out
that radio stations have informally agreed upon, the choice of which
song becomes a single is almost meaningless. I doubt any of these that
I've named would've changed that. Maybe the early ones, before the
black-out, might've gotten some ariplay.
Still, it's fun to speculate wildly.
love to all,
Ben
http://home.earthlink.net/~iglarmobley
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Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 13:38:38 EDT
From: VRcadia@aol.com
Subject: Top 20 Numan tunes
To: digest@garynumanfan.nu
I missed the issue, but from what I gather the question is Numan top 20
songs, here's mine in no particular order (sans Cars because we can all take
that as read).
1 Warriors - Warriors
2 Time to die - Strange Charm - b-side
3 Voix - Metal Rythym
4 Bleed - Sacrifice
5 Dark - Exile
6 Are 'friends' electric? - Replicas
7 A subway I call 'you' - Dance
8 Tick tock man - I, Assassin
9 Metal (20th aniversary mix) - The Pleasure Principle
10 Alien Cure (extended mix) - Exile (extended mixes)
11 Pray (extended mix) - Sacrifice (extended mixes)
12 A question of faith - Sacrifice
13 We are glass - Dance
14 Me! I disconnect from you - Replicas
15 Down in the park - Replicas
16 Tricks - The Fury
17 The secret - Bezerker
18 Night talk - Dance
19 Boys like me - Dance
20 My breathing - Strange Charm
And not a Numan written tune but he sang on it:
21 Stormtrooper in drag - Paul Gardiner single (kinda counts)
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Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 16:54:53 +0100
From: thoutby@fusiongroup.co.uk (Tim Houtby)
Subject: Trio
To: "Digest"
Hello again
Heres another one. I'm also after some Trio CD's (remember them?). I know
that around 3 different albums have been previously released on CD (around
the end of the 80's / early 90's ?) in different countries. I just don't
seem to be able to get hold of any. Does anyone have one they may be willing
to sell, or does anyone know who may still have stock ??? I'm especially
interested in the one titled just "Trio" with Da Da Da, Los Paul, Achtung
Achtung etc on it.
Heres hoping.
Thanks
Tim.
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Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 13:41:43 EDT
From: VRcadia@aol.com
Subject: White Boys & Heroes
To: digest@garynumanfan.nu
I love this track, especially because of Pino's double track of fretlass
funk. Proof positive taste is subjective.
"Mine is White Boys & Heroes (that bloody irritating sax & Pino Palladino's
O.T.T. fretless ass, ooops! I meant bass, maybe I was right the first time
!!!"
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