Re: Angel Moped looking for info

I have a running Batavus and Columbia Commuter that I am rebuilding. The Angel is my extra moped for wife and friends to ride. I have learned that they have a crappy reputation so there are less of them around. It is harder to find info and parts. This is kind of a fun challenge. Its actually not bad looking. I've had some good replies. Any other info?

Re: Angel Moped looking for info

Re: Angel Moped looking for info

Jesse, Can you post a pic of your carb? It looks like I am missing the petcock and it doesnt look complete. Also, can you post a few of your Angel to this post? I want to compare. I picked up a second Angel and figured I would use both for a guide. Did you replace the covers for front and back signal or do you know what would fit? Do you have a manual by any chance?

Re: Angel Moped looking for info

Re: Angel Moped looking for info

I have most of the original carb but it's missing the slide and cap. I have pictures of the motor rebuild but not of the bike right now. Mine did not have turn signals on it so not sure what to tell you on that. And there is no manual that I've ever seen for these bikes.

Re: Angel Moped looking for info

Manual, Parts List Exist, just Rare.

I had the original Service Manual and Separate Parts List for these TYM Industries dogs. And they were very brief and badly translated, and the illustrations were poor. Even in the original versions, the illustrations were bad photo copies.

Even if you have the parts list with the original part nos., there is no where to buy parts (like themopedjunkyard)

Now some fellow from Beatrice NE owns them .

the only mopeds I bought and sold at a loss.

I made the mistake of not copying them, which I regret.

I do remember that the timing was odd...in the book , 19 degrees BTDC?

I owned two of these incomplete mopeds for 3 years.

I got tired of not finding parts. I would have needed a fabrication outfit, and a machine shop to finish the projects.. There just are not enough spare parts around in the Plains States or on Ebay. I believe that it there are a lot more old bikes and parts in California, where most of them got gold.

As for the carburetor, finding spares for Mikuni VM10-24 was not easy.

Might be able to adapt motorized bike carbs?

The Myron's Moped guy has some knowledge and data. See in the Encyclopedia section. There is some wiring info, spec info.

A hint on internet searching: try the keywords "Peugeot Angel". Some morons label these mopeds with this name, even though it is incorrect.

The mopeds were manufactured in Taiwan by TYM Industries, Inc., which is still in business as a manufacturer of farm equipment. That might be a lead to someone who has a copy of the original manuals? You might need someone who speaks and writes Taiwanese. The design of the 1st line of steel pressed frame bikes (angels) was the Honda Cangaru, (PM-50?).

This Honda moped is rare in the USA, more commonly distributed in Australia and SouthEast Asia. But the specs for the AP-48 motor don't match the Honda. TYM also made the "Speed Bird", and "Commander"

with a tubular frame and separate gas tank. You see some in the gallery with the Coke paint job (See Peogeot Angel pics).

Angel: There are two versions, this one with brown (external ignition ground), yellow, black magneto wires, and an earlier one with red, yellow, and black magneto wires, internally grounded, not shown.

AMS & Angel Battery Versions: Angel/Speed Birds use a 6N2-2A small 6 volt battery, AMS uses a 6N4B-2A. Modern replacement batteries have different wires than the original ones did. See section “B” Battery Wires.

Speed Bird is a trade name for a Taiwan moped made by T.Y.M. Industrial Co. Ltd, 554 Chung Cheng Rd, Yongkang Hsiang, Tainan Hsien, Taiwan, ROC, The Speed Bird BP-48 and BP-48S models have the same TYM (Batavus M48 copy) engine as the Angel AP-48, also wheels, and other things.

There is also a Speed Bird with a Tas BE-48 engine (Tanaka Kogyo Co. Ltd, Japan). The “Tas Speed Bird” is exactly the same as the Moprix. See Moprix above.

Angel made in Taiwan by TYM TYM engine

Angel is a trade name for a well made Taiwan moped made by TYM and imported by the Cham Company. The engine, made by Tym, is a copy of a Batavus M48 (Holland), but the clutch and reed valve are different. The early version frame had an old fashioned cantilever fork. The later version, Angel AP48, had telescoping forks, shown above.

Re: Manual, Parts List Exist, just Rare.

I can go ahead and tell you they are not copies of the Laura M-48 motor at all. They look similar from the outside but every dimension and design concept is different. I can see that they probably had a picture of a M-48 motor and said "Eh, we can figure it out from here." I will be doing a full engine rebuild write up soon for this if that helps anyone.

Re: Manual, Parts List Exist, just Rare.

Really looking for the manual of someone to let me know just a few things. Like what the original timing is, is it really 19 degrees BTDC. What belt sizes it has. If i can use an alternate carburetor. How fast it will go. if anyone has the manuals id like to link up or possibly purchase.