Messages - LKillian

Old news dude.You must be referring to the cliff drive tree fund, because rosedale has had several trees planted in the last week.

Quote from drew neitzel who has done more work on KC courses than 99% of people here. Responding to a similar comment from jdanger.

"i made the announcement last year at the players' meeting that jack would oversee this project in my absence(if you were there, danger, you would have already known). after countless discussions with jack about numerous projects at cliff drive, it was decided to save up the money and do a larger planting when i return. I have the watering tank and i didn't see the point of putting in trees without a regular supply of water. seems to be a wise decision given the amount of rain kc is getting this year. we should be able to get a better deal on the trees and mulch in two years with the money from the first three tournaments. we raised almost $300 last year and the KCFDC has been kind enough to oversee that money until I return.

the new holes and the trees are separate, independent projects. we will not be planting any trees on the holes we may be loosing until we have confirmation on their ultimate status. there are plenty of existing holes in need of numerous trees that have no plans for leaving us (18,17,16,10,11). we will be starting with those holes, probably in that order."

Unfortunately getting trees over here requires actual work and action and lots of money. I think its great that olathe has the ability to do this at little cost and volunteer effort, but is it really necessary to keep kicking this dead horse. I have worked with drew on courses and seen all that he has done with his selfless goal of improving the courses for everyone. I have faith that when he returns to kc everybody will appreciate his efforts across kc. Except olathe of course because obviously you guys have that covered.

One reason there hasn't been that much money raised is all the fund raising tourneys have been way too sparsely attended. So when people start showing up to these and an actual decent amount of money is made then snide comments may be warranted, but now its just getting old... hmmm what else was there. Oh yah Ouch!

Lets take an issue that's not a big deal (one person makes a reasonable request in a very civil manner, another agrees in a very civil manner).

Then a bunch of people who WEREN'T there start debating what is right. ( Nobody there gave a crap because they were listening intently to feldberg)

I believe that if somebody is devoting their time and energy for free, they have a reasonable right to set a few restrictions on that time. There was never any mention after that of a video for sale or option for lessons for money. So there were no alterior motives.

You guys want to get into an argument that bad start watching more politics. Then you can see 2 jackasses taking issues that are a big deal then argue over who is right much less what is right, and they and especially their supporters have serious financial investments in every possible outcome.

How about this.

Thanks Dave Feldberg.We really appreciate your time and instruction here in KC, that was great.

Nobody on the west side believes for one second that the east is going to mail this thing in. I think it will be very competitive, but still fun for both sides. I have to believe that they would be a whole lot more nervous if a solid middle of the order guy like myself hadn't relocated this year

The problem is there is no real incentive for players to move up to pro unless they are exceptionally skilled and likely to begin cashing right away. The competition is tough, there are very little freebies or players packs, and it costs more to enter. If you are playing a big A-tier or Nt event the odds of a high finish are very slim. I'm not saying that the big guns don't have bad tourney's or rounds, but cracking the top 20 in those events pretty much requires shooting well above 1000 rated rounds every round.

Really the only incentive is pride and a drive to want to be the best for a day or weekend and not just the best in your division.

That being said, playing in the open division is not really that scary or difficult. I've watched climo miss a 20 footer. I've seen all kinds of mistakes made by pros. It's just limiting your mistakes and not letting it totally mind f#$% you when you do. That is really the key, keeping your bad rounds from being any where below 950.

If you feel pressure to move up even though you are not 100 percent sure of it i would say don't. It can be extremely frustrating to feel extra pressure to play perfect and then you don't, then you get pissed off, then you drop a 890 round in an NT event and want to throw all your discs in the garbage.

On the positive side of that, while i have experienced a lot of frustration there are reasons to push yourself against tougher competion. The standard answer is that you learn more from better players but it is more than that. Competing against and hanging with great players will do more for your confidence than anything. I didn't play all that well at the KCWO, but in the first round i had Climo in the rear view mirror all round til he just got me by 2 strokes at the end. Moments like that can fuel motivation and positive mojo more than any advanced tourney success can do.

I grew up and played a lot in oklahoma and there are a handful of 980 and above players who have been dominating the advanced ranks for years. I would just use that as extra motivation to beat those guys.

Just do whatever it takes to keep yourself motivated to improve and you guys will be fine. If winning some advanced tourneys and experiencing some success and the feeling of winning then do that. If you want to take a shot at hanging with someone with a proven track record then do that.