----- Original Message -----
From: "LouPaulsen" <LouPaulsen at comcast.net>
To: "Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition"
<marxism at lists.econ.utah.edu>
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 5:43 PM
Subject: [Marxism] Gun Control (was: Liberal feminism
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: " Ian Pace" <ian at ianpace.com>
>> > But as regards misappropriation of feminism in the US, how do you feel
> about
> > the new 'progressive' face attained by the gun lobby as a result of the
> fact
> > that women are arming themselves in increasing numbers?
> >
> > Ian
>> That's a complex issue, considering that we ought not to be against gun
> control anyway (in my view), and the fact that gun control is seen as a
> "liberal" issue, while opposition to gun control is seen as a "right-wing"
> issue, is really sort of a historical accident (and probably involves
> mistakes by "the left"). After all, "if guns are outlawed, only the
outlaw
> police will have guns." And certainly firearms training for women is not
> bad? Certainly a lot of men get firearms training through the army,
hunting
> clubs, etc.
>OK, but non-gun control at present surely serves the interest of the upper
and middle classes? And the right-wing militias who would fight us to the
last? Isn't the quaint American idea of the 'people' being armed so as to
be able fight against their 'government' if necessary a primary example of a
distorted faux-socialist ideology that really amounts to a means of
providing added armed support for the defence of private property?
Ian