Snakes Gould wrote:in the guys eyes, they arent "molesting" these girls. they are "having sex". thats a problem in itself. i think anyone over 18 with a 12 year old is wrong. legally, morally, everything. i wasnt talking about these situations. i was talking about situations (mostly one) where there was a 22 year old guy and he went to a 15 year old's house (i believe that was the situation). my argument was that this certainly is not the same as a 50 year old and a 12 year old. thats all.

In which guy's eyes? In the sexual predator? Couldn't care less. Don't prey on our children and you're OK. Prey on them, have nefarious intent towards them, and I can't imagine a punishment severe enough. Give it to 'em twice, I say, and when you're done do something else.

I'll agree it's not the same, and the difference between people ages 22/15 is vastly different than 50/12. I guess maybe am willing to give a pass to the guys out there who are looking to hook up and who run into a girl who knowingly alleges she is "of age" but is a minor. Those guys get a raw deal, although to my way of thinking they should be more wary (better safe than sorry, as the saying goes). Further, as Art V said earlier, it really is best to take these on a case-by-case basis within certain age guidelines, since not all 16-year-olds are created equal and not all 22-year-olds are created equal.

BUT, that is not the conversation I was under the impression we were having. I think we're talking about knowing, intentional adult sexual predators preying on minors. THOSE people I have zero sympathy for, and were they to take the same way out as the guy for which this thread was started, I wouldn't shed a tear.