Re: Im starting to suspect that David Wilcock is a con artist and egomaniac

you shills are really doing your superiors a huge disfavor. seriously, the more you spread his name out there the more people will likely take an interest in wilcock.

i mean, i borrowed his book from the library out of curiosity and found the stuff he talks about to be completely mindblowing. he even includes sources and references to back up his claims (which i'm slowly reading up upon for any refutes).

just keep talking about him. you'll just interest others as you did me.

Re: Im starting to suspect that David Wilcock is a con artist and egomaniac

Anytime anyone tells you that others are taking care of the issues that are destroying freedom, etc., implying that we should just sit back, do nothing, and let some secretive organization handle things, you should be suspect.

Let's say everyone believes what these guys are saying. What then if it's not true?

If they were advising for local people to declare their freedom locally, and begin building their local economies, and providing information in how to accomplish this, that would be one thing. But to believe that all is being handled, and to do nothing while the NWO and the bankers are continuing in their pillage, seems like bad advice to me.

So as good as all Wilcock's info sounds, eg: new monetary system, release of suppressed technology, etc., as much as I hope it would be real, there has been too much manipulation to believe anything these days. Especially if we're to do nothing for ourselves to bring about real change.

I'm still waiting for the grand awakening that is supposed to be occurring. I'm not seeing much sign of it where I am. But we'll see.

Re: Im starting to suspect that David Wilcock is a con artist and egomaniac

David Wilcock wont reply to any messages requesting a refund

I don't believe he is Edgar Cayce either

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11181325

you wn't get a refund from wilcock, just a new prediction when his latest one fails to materialize

Anyone who's followed wilcock for long knows all about his "ascension 2000" fail and how none of the Y2K meltdown occured that Wilcock predicted. That shut him up for a while because just before that he had moved to Virginia Beach trying his claim to fame by riding the coat-tails of the Edgar Cayce foundation until they kicked him out.

Then he moved up to Kentucky where Carla Rueckert was channeling Ra and the "Law of One" books, ( [link to www.scribd.com] and decided he could channel Ra, too. Never mind the fact that the original Ra channelings said specifically that RA could NEVER speak through anyone but Carla. Then Carla threw him out and I thought we'd seen the last of him, but he just keeps popping up like a bad hair day.

So he wrote a couple of books, but no publisher would touch them, and he finally just put them on his site. Then he hooked up with Wynn Free and convinced him he was Edgar Cayce, because he knew that Wynn could get published. After that book flopped he started doing "dream readings" thru his website. Only problem was, he was so bad at it that everybody was asking for a refund; that's why he now has a strict no-refund policy. So after that nobody would pay him for his terrible work and he had to quit.

Then he hooked up with ET researcher and author Scott Mandelker; toured with him a bit; did some shows with Art Bell and Wilcock thought he'd made the big time. Trouble is that Scott got wise to Wilcock and kicked him to the curb...

And so it goes... everyone he's ever worked with has thrown him out, but he keeps trying to con new people, and unfortunately people who are searching are too easily conned, and DW has discovered and exploited this.

David Wilcock is a psuedo guru, charlatan and rampant fucking idiot. This dude claims to be Edgar Cayce, Shakespeare and Pythagoras amongst many, many others. Noteably only famous people though lol. He puts out a bunch of 2012 bullshit on the web and basically takes you for a nice confusing, long winded ride, at your expense.

Here is just a sample of mr Wilcock heads drivel that I took from his website, he tries to pass himself off as this crusader for truth guided by mystical forces.., showing us what is really going on, for free!

~ Is The "Sleeping Prophet" Back? An Interview With David Wilcock8/17/99 RICK MARTIN ~ Wilcock: The whole reason why everything that I've published is free is so that as many people can get it as possible. That's what I was instructed to do by these Forces.

But then the story slips and we get an insight as to what David is really about, marketing.. Selling 'truth' like it's a commodity, calling spirituality and the truth an 'industry'. He shows his true colours, a metaphysical used car salesman, he's a salesman! Snake oil anyone?

All of this has been taken from David Wilcocks own site. He can’t even keep his own story straight. I'm not even going to bother debunking his pathetic theories as he can't even prove them, and many others have done that very well. Google David Wilcock fraud scam. It's all there. Research your gurus people.

David Wilcock the "enlightened" guru wannabe, fake and fucking carnie claims he is Edgar Cayce (amongst a plethora of others) reincarnated. Here is Edgar Cayce himself on his next incarnation, enjoy.

Oh and Wilcock predicted that on October 14th 2008 a massive armada of UFO's would be seen worldwide in the skies lol, and that the US government would fully disclose all UFO information by the end of 2009. Obviously none of these things have happened, pretty good for the guy who claims 100% accuracy. There you have it, Wilcock is a joke.

This is a hard-hitting name-naming program that asks the questions: why all the hysteria, why all the lies?

When I first set out to write this post about David Wilcock, I was optimistic, even excited. I thought, here's a big name in 2012 apocalypticism. Here's a guy who's going to give me some real meat to chew on. He has a following.

He has a slick website where he sells books and magazines. I thought, surely this guy will prove a worthier adversary than the scattered cranks who just sit around plagiarizing each other all day. Surely this guy will be above flaunting his own ignorance as brazenly as the other True Believers do. We're going to really get some good analysis of what is going on, I told myself.

So I pressed play on Wilcock's video. And within five minutes, my eyes had glazed over with tears. I wept, dear reader. I wept for the beleaguered state of rational discourse in the 21st century. I shed tears of darkest despair when I looked mad David Wilcock's image on my laptop square in the eye, and thought: this is the best they can do?

Or maybe those were tears of laughter. I can't remember exactly.

Yes, suffice it to say, David Wilcock is no different from the numerous schizoaffective pencil-peddlers (the link is just one example) who dominate the 2012 / New Age cultural milieu. I expected an intellectual sparring partner; I got a guy who looks for hidden messages in movie posters.

I wanted somebody who would put up a fight; I got a guy who uses a book that he read when he was seven years old as evidence for ESP. I wanted a challenge, and I got a guy who is very, very seriously challenged.

But please, do not think me merely dismissive. Watch his "science" yourself. If you can go more than three minutes without squirming, weeping, laughing uncontrollably, or vomiting, you will have proven yourself more restrained than I.

Then, after you are finished, I double-dog-dare you look me in the eye and say, "I take David Wilcock very, very seriously."

Here I will not give you an exhaustive list of everything that Wilcock does wrong, because such a list would take longer to read than the movie would take to watch. I will instead explain why Wilcock is such a disappointment- because he is just like all the others. His grasp of logic is so terrible, his fundamental research skills are nonexistent, and his willingness to draw ridiculous overarching conclusions from tiny, specific amounts of (often unverifiable or simply flat-out incorrect) 'evidence ' all conspire towards an unmistakable conclusion: David Wilcock is just not worth the time it would take to explain every single mistake he makes. Instead, we can tell him that his very thought processes themselves, the very way he evaluates evidence and arguments, is completely broken.

David Wilcock genuinely disappointed me, but at least he will be a helpful textbook for how not to get yourself a place at the table.

Wilcock's "research" is a wandering, meandering, unfocused whirligig complete guided tour through every single piece of bunkum, flim-flammery, hocus-pocus, nonsense, fluff, prattle, bullshit, and chicanery that exists in the established canon of 2012 apocalypticism. We get psychics. We get reincarnation. We get energy crystals. We get quantum this-and-that. Aliens. Ancient Mayans. Wormholes. Screenshots from the movie "Contact." It's all there. But if you asked me what "wilcock's science" was about exactly, I wouldn't be able to tell you, even though I've watched it a dozen times right now. It's just an aimless rant that tries to squeeze as much disconnected nonsense into a semicoherent narrative as possible.

And if you asked me about Wilcock himself...

There are certain modes of behavior or tendencies that people have that should make us suspicious straight from the outset. People who routinely make casual errors that could be corrected by even token amounts of research typically are people who have not done the research and who have no interest in doing the research. People who make sweeping generalizations about complicated topics in physics or mathematics (but who do not even once get into specific details about those topics) are probably trying to cover up the fact that they don't know what they're talking about; they speak quickly and casually to make it seem like what they're saying is totally obvious and very simple, even if it is total crap. People who habitually cite crappy, discredited research without explaining why are people who are ideologically committed to an "everything we know is wrong" mentality. They want you to believe without question that "the Establishment," meaning usually accepted solid science, is hiding something serious from you and that only the crank in question has The Truth.

And when they start telling you that they're the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce, you know that you will never even be on the same planet, much less the same playing field. And if you've watched "Enigma," you know just what Wilcock thinks about himself vis-a-vis Edgar Cayce. It ain't pretty.

David Wilcock seems to think that he is the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce. Why does he think this? Well, because they look sort of like each other and some of Cayce's friends look sort of like Wilcock's friends. I am not kidding and this is not a simplification of the matter. Watch the movie from 3:32-4:15 and tell me that I'm being unfair here. He literally shows slide after slide of people from his life who look like people from Edgar Cayce's life and expects us to believe it.

That Wilcock is either massively self-deluded or a deliberate scam artist is apparent in his selection of the photos he has used for comparison. Notice for example that he used this photo (Cayce is on the left, Wilcock is on the right) and not, say, this one. The photo Wilcock used is black and white, so we can't compare eye color, hair color, or even skin color. They are just photos of the face, so we can't compare height or build. They are also both pictures where they both happen to be looking in the same direction with their mouths open the same amount. He even picked one where Cayce is wearing a hat so we can't compare what their hairstyles or hairlines are like.

The same is true for every other photo on this point that he shows. What's even funnier is that some of his pictures genuinely do not look similar.

But the worst part of this whole, agonizing segment is what it says about Wilcock as a person. His grandeur is so profound that, of the six billion or so people that world-renowned fraudulent huckster Edgar Cayce could have been reborn as, he had to choose David Wilcock. Forget that Wilcock's only evidence is that he thinks that certain, perfectly-angled photos look like each other. Just think of what kind of rocks it takes to say, with a completely straight face and full confidence, that one of your subculture's heroes lives inside your brain

The point I am trying to establish here is that David Wilcock is practically inviting us not to take him seriously. How am I supposed to engage rationally with someone who thinks that his dad is Edgar Cayce's dad (apparently your facial hair choices are preserved in the reincarnation process)? What kind of calm dialectical process can I work through with a guy who thinks that his college friend was Edgar Cayce's principal investor?

A callow disregard for even very basic detail is bad enough. He insults your intelligence by trying to summarize the theology of all major religions in a single sentence. He is assuming that you are as gullible as he is when he shows you that Edgar Cayce reincarnation crap (a point that, by the way, he never does anything with). Just being straight-up wrong is also a bad sign.

Daivid wilcock is a charlatan for the feeble minded and spiritually materialistic and corrupt. His ego is warning enough for many, but many get sucked in, until they figure out Wilcock's no refund policy.

Re: Im starting to suspect that David Wilcock is a con artist and egomaniac

David Wilcock wont reply to any messages requesting a refund

I don't believe he is Edgar Cayce either

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11181325

you won't get a refund from wilcock, just a new prediction when his latest one fails to materialize

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buyer be warned, don't get "cocked" by Wilcock

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1292866

Thank you for taking the time to be thorough. I had wondered about after seeing him in some "truther" videos and recently again after I heard him on Coast to Coast.

The guy on the line was rubbing me the wrong way how he asked permission to give out the details for his latest book and phone number they could call to buy it. Usually the host does that, or the speaker should be interesting enough for the audience to go and google afterward. But no, he was determined to give out that information. It looked very desperate and phony. Then I find out it's David Wilcock.

Re: Im starting to suspect that David Wilcock is a con artist and egomaniac

you shills are really doing your superiors a huge disfavor. seriously, the more you spread his name out there the more people will likely take an interest in wilcock.

i mean, i borrowed his book from the library out of curiosity and found the stuff he talks about to be completely mindblowing. he even includes sources and references to back up his claims (which i'm slowly reading up upon for any refutes).

just keep talking about him. you'll just interest others as you did me.