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I am pretty sure that Never Summer came up first with the rocker middle - camber tips profile, and then the next year Mervin did it and tried to patent it.

Not cool. I do care who copied / stole. So should you - if companies get no protection, royalties, or even recognition, there is less incentive to innovate and pour money into R&D.

I think you missed my point. Some say mervin "copied/stole" from neversummer which isnt entirely true. Mervins tech is its own with the rocker that extends past the bindings and then camber to the tips, plus the added magnetraction. Neversummer profiles have rocker between the inserts and vario cut.

Both companies respective boards have a total different feel. No one is losing royalties or recognition because an individual will buy a board according to how it rides. A lib tech attack banana feels totally different than a NS Evo even if the tech is similar.

My point is get a board for how it rides and if it fits your riding style. Dont fall into the hype of branding and good marketing.

03-21-2012 11:46 AM

lernr

I am pretty sure that Never Summer came up first with the rocker middle - camber tips profile, and then the next year Mervin did it and tried to patent it.

Not cool. I do care who copied / stole. So should you - if companies get no protection, royalties, or even recognition, there is less incentive to innovate and pour money into R&D.

You do realize that every board company takes tech from another and then finely adjusts it to call it their own. Neversummer, and Mervin both use similar hybrid shapes. Does that mean that one copied the other. I guess it could be argued but who cares as long as the board rips.

On a side note Rossi has magnetraction because they used to be under the same parent company as Lib tech. Smokin boards use magnetraction, and Arbor has a form of it in their grip tech. So who copied who?

03-19-2012 06:15 PM

gprider_capita

I have that same problem. My only board right now is a capita horrorscope and I ride in Wisconsin so I ride on a decent amount of ice and hard pack, that's a big reason why I looked at the jibsaw because it had magtek and it was great on ice and fit my needs great. But if you don't care if they came up with the tech or not, then certain Rossi boards would be a good choice.

03-19-2012 05:39 PM

lernr

I'll read the article - but if Jeremy Jones didn't think it was good, he could have changed the shape, and also foregone the magnetraction. If Rossi didn't pay royalties for magne - well, that sucks, and I won't support them one bit. But really most everyone wants and needs to make money - Burton, K2 moving production overseas, Mervin, etc.

My current resort board is a K2 Turbo Dream and I have always said that it's a great board, so I am not knocking them. It rides very fun and has held up extremely well on top of this. I just wish it had some form of edge tech for better grip on ice / hard

03-19-2012 05:26 PM

gprider_capita

Rossi copies everyone else's tech and just because certain riders are sponsored by a company doesn't make them good. Rossi does make some good boards but they make some bad boards too. I rode the 2013 Rossi jibsaw and I liked it, but what I don't like about Rossi is that they copy other people's tech and are just in the board industry to make money. Angrysnowboarder has a good article about Rossi if you care to read it. But k2 is always coming out with new tech and has been solid constantly.

03-19-2012 02:27 AM

lernr

Rossi makes OK boards?

Rossi makes some of the best freeride boards right now, and for some time. Xavier de la Rue rides the Experience (not that this is a good board for the OP!) Jerenmy Jones rode one before starting his own company (with a similar shape on the Flagship).

The One Magtek is possibly one of the most versatile AND great value (even if butt ugly) boards on the market.

OP - if the board is last year's One Magtek it's probably a great buy, same for this year's

K2 is very solid in my experience with boards and bindings in the upper ranges. The women's K2 boards, on the other hand, seem to be less durable. I know some demanding riders are very happy with their boots (like Thraxis, which is a triple boa). I wish they still manufactured in the US, though. Also, some update on edge tech would be nice.

Rossignol makes ok boards but k2 definitely makes great stuff i own a pair of their boots. But, have your kid find a pair of boots that fit him best otherwise problems start arising like heel lift or sore feet from boots that don't fit right.

I've had many different boards and Rossi definitely makes a great board. From the magnetraction, to cores with carbon kevlar stringers, to the hybrid camber shapes. They have real good tech. Maybe not in previous years but the last 4 yrs they have some good boards. And the quality is top notch. I think people are so stuck on certain name branding and marketing hype that they dont look at the actual gear they are riding.

Have you even rode any to make a comment on it?

03-17-2012 09:10 AM

gprider_capita

Rossignol makes ok boards but k2 definitely makes great stuff i own a pair of their boots. But, have your kid find a pair of boots that fit him best otherwise problems start arising like heel lift or sore feet from boots that don't fit right.

03-17-2012 07:13 AM

rdot84

Welcome to the forum. Rossignol makes some solid boards and K2 gear is good as well. I've owned Rossi boards and still do and i love their tech and durability. Cant vouch for K2 but from what i hear they have a good rep.

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