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Topic: Just saying Hello:) (Read 1828 times)

Hi, I have been around this great site for quite a while, mostly in the reading mode, so it is my second post here, just wanted to say Hello to everyone. I represent a Russian/Ukrainian dating site russian4bride.com - it is a cool user-friendly resource, absolutely mobile-friendly and absolutely free (at the moment). So, everyone is welcome.

It would be interesting if you gave us more background and your perspective on the reality in the former Soviet Union.

An interesting question. I am a Russian, lived in the US and other Western countries for some years. Briefly, I can say that I respect Navalny, Nemtsov and so forth. Cannot say I respect those currently in power here in Russia, RT and local propaganda. A serious economic meltdown is inevitable here in Russia I think, so there is some hope. A lot depends on the EU and the US too, I think they have been too meek, especially the EU. The policy of appeasement never works out well and the money does smell sometime, if you know what I mean.As to the former Soviet Union at large, we are observing a lot of interesting shifts, rifts and so forth.You wife is from Ukraine I see. Their biggest mid-term threat has a name imho, its name is Timoshenko. I know Ukrainian (learnt it for fun), watch Espreso, Hromadske and other channels sometimes.

It would be interesting if you gave us more background and your perspective on the reality in the former Soviet Union.

An interesting question. I am a Russian, lived in the US and other Western countries for some years. Briefly, I can say that I respect Navalny, Nemtsov and so forth. Cannot say I respect those currently in power here in Russia, RT and local propaganda. A serious economic meltdown is inevitable here in Russia I think, so there is some hope. A lot depends on the EU and the US too, I think they have been too meek, especially the EU. The policy of appeasement never works out well and the money does smell sometime, if you know what I mean.As to the former Soviet Union at large, we are observing a lot of interesting shifts, rifts and so forth.You wife is from Ukraine I see. Their biggest mid-term threat has a name imho, its name is Timoshenko. I know Ukrainian (learnt it for fun), watch Espreso, Hromadske and other channels sometimes.

I definitely wonder who you really are, since Russians don’t describe a meltdown of the Russian economy as “hope”. Probably a Russian living safely far away from Russia with no real clue how it really is here or what is really going on here.

Navalny, Babchenko, and Timoshenko - I see you are in the looney camp, and completely clued out.

Let it be noted for all that the Navalny supporter hopes for the economic meltdown of Russia.

And that is exactly why no stable-minded people consider Navalny to be of any significance at all, except his Western backers.

You will be disappointed to know that your economic forecasts are about as amateurish as the people you think are politically significant.

We are doing quite well here in Russia and keep moving in the right direction.

I definitely wonder who you really are, since Russians don’t describe a meltdown of the Russian economy as “hope”. Probably a Russian living safely far away from Russia with no real clue how it really is here or what is really going on here.

Navalny, Babchenko, and Timoshenko - I see you are in the looney camp, and completely clued out.

Let it be noted for all that the Navalny supporter hopes for the economic meltdown of Russia.

And that is exactly why no stable-minded people consider Navalny to be of any significance at all, except his Western backers.

You will be disappointed to know that your economic forecasts are about as amateurish as the people you think are politically significant.

We are doing quite well here in Russia and keep moving in the right direction.

WE? Who are we and who has entitled you to speak on behalf of all the Russians? I have heard it all many times. The history is the only and the ruthless judge, we will see what She says, quite soon. What is the right direction in your view? The thing is, I don't see any direction, all I see is pure and simple feudalism from the beginning of the 19th century.By hope I meant the famous battle between the fridge and the tvset. I think the tvset is losing already... Gas (aka petrol) prices have jumped over the cliff recently, for instance. Rubble keeps falling even on the backdrop of high oil prices, what will happen to it if/when oil costs 30 bucks again? Over 20 million Russians live below the poverty line (which itself is a joke, like 150 dollars per month, so in reality the penury rates are way higher), over 60% of Russians don't have any savings and live from hand to mouth. Et cetera. All this is the direct result of today's regime policies you fully support. And it is not about Nemtsov or Navalny at all, it is about ideas - they are bulletproof and you cannot throw them to prison. By and large, Russia is a European country, it is built mostly on the European culture (literature, theater, science, music, architecture, you name it). By the way, you probably didn't read what I said. As a putinist you probably should support Timoshenko, I said she is a clear-cut threat to today's Ukraine. The Kremlin would surely adore having her as the next Ukr president. Anyway, I have enough of these discussions on other forums, I don't plan to have them here as well.P.S. I live in Saint Petersburg, good enough for you?

I definitely wonder who you really are, since Russians don’t describe a meltdown of the Russian economy as “hope”. Probably a Russian living safely far away from Russia with no real clue how it really is here or what is really going on here.

Navalny, Babchenko, and Timoshenko - I see you are in the looney camp, and completely clued out.

Let it be noted for all that the Navalny supporter hopes for the economic meltdown of Russia.

And that is exactly why no stable-minded people consider Navalny to be of any significance at all, except his Western backers.

You will be disappointed to know that your economic forecasts are about as amateurish as the people you think are politically significant.

We are doing quite well here in Russia and keep moving in the right direction

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WE? Who are we and who has entitled you to speak on behalf of all the Russians? I have heard it all many times.

WE, was we living in Russia, assuming you were living in Florida, etc. You're in St. Pete, so I acknowledge my mistake and fair enough.

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The history is the only and the ruthless judge, we will see what She says, quite soon. What is the right direction in your view? The thing is, I don't see any direction, all I see is pure and simple feudalism from the beginning of the 19th century.

I think you should have paid better attention in your history courses, because, if you had, you would understand that there is nothing even similar to feudalism today in Russia. Indeed, Russia never even had this Western system. So, assuming you're talking about serfdom, which did exist in Russia, again, I am completely confused because this system isn't present in Russia either these days. If you personally feel like a slave, well, I don't know, get a job, emigrate, do something. But definitely there is no serfdom here.

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By hope I meant the famous battle between the fridge and the tvset. I think the tvset is losing already... Gas (aka petrol) prices have jumped over the cliff recently, for instance. Rubble keeps falling even on the backdrop of high oil prices, what will happen to it if/when oil costs 30 bucks again? Over 20 million Russians live below the poverty line (which itself is a joke, like 150 dollars per month, so in reality the penury rates are way higher), over 60% of Russians don't have any savings and live from hand to mouth. Et cetera. All this is the direct result of today's regime policies you fully support.

Why not guess how many people don't have any savings in the rich and successful West? You might be surprised. While oil prices have dropped over the last several years, Russia didn't collapse. The economy didn't collapse because Russia has been diversifying and is continuing to diversify the economy. When the last round of sanctions kicked in a month or two ago, another 5 roubles was lost of the dollar. But what is interesting is that the Central Bank was confident enough that they didn't take any measures to protect the currency. They let it float free and clear and all that was lost was 5 rubles (which of course isn't great). No runs on the banks either. Times have changed. I would be scared out of my skin if some lowlife like Navalny ever got anywhere near anything that even looked like power. The guy is clueless and it is a good laugh that some people think he could manage economic and state affairs.

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And it is not about Nemtsov or Navalny at all, it is about ideas - they are bulletproof and you cannot throw them to prison. By and large, Russia is a European country, it is built mostly on the European culture (literature, theater, science, music, architecture, you name it).

Yes, there's European influence for sure, but also Asian influence. And there is something uniquely Russian. As to ideas, you are right, they can't be locked up, but certainly idiots like Navalny can be shut up and I won't shed a tear if they chuck him in the clink for good. His only aim is to destabilize the state, which will create misery for all (this is what you call "hope").

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By the way, you probably didn't read what I said. As a putinist you probably should support Timoshenko, I said she is a clear-cut threat to today's Ukraine. The Kremlin would surely adore having her as the next Ukr president.

You're right, I did misread. I don't really know beyond that though, Ukraine is a basket case. Someone who might be open to Russia? That sounds like sanity for that very sad nation. They are in a nightmare (I mean dream world) right now pretending they aren't a neighbour of Russia.

It is ironic though that you said I didn't read what you said and then called me a Putinist. I am no such thing; I did not say that and I don't align myself with anyone. I reserve my rights to be an independent person and I reject any label you try to pin to me. That being said, thank God Putin is in charge now and not Navalny. Competence vs Incompetence.... In Russia things get done differently and you should know this if you are really Russian. You do know that Russia isn't going to drop its drawers and beg for an American-NATO arsefcuk, right???

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Anyway, I have enough of these discussions on other forums, I don't plan to have them here as well.

Agreed, although you started it))). Anyway, Moby reads the Retardian too so he'll soon be along to take up your position.

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P.S. I live in Saint Petersburg, good enough for you?

No, it is not good enough. It is too cold, too hot, too dark, and too bright!))

Seasoned, thank you for engaging it is interesting to hear another opinion even if does not conform to certain perceptions. I was more expecting info on the dating side via agency's such as yours. If you wish to discuss political issues feel free to do so. Thick skin is a major asset if yes, the stupid level can be astonishing here and elsewhere.

For what it is worth I tend to doubt that Goldilocks i.e. Timoschenko will ever rise again to a politician with a large standing.

We have an anotherl poster, Steveboy, who moved from St. Petersburg to Moscow and also manages a dating site. I think you need ten posts to use the message feature on RUA. Send him a message, he has some decided opinions regarding the cross cultural dating scene

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For virtually any topic, you can find polar viewpoints on it. My opinion on any topic reflects how the topic directly impacts or had impacted me. So any other diverging viewpoint can go to for all I care.

I definitely wonder who you really are, since Russians don’t describe a meltdown of the Russian economy as “hope”. Probably a Russian living safely far away from Russia with no real clue how it really is here or what is really going on here.

Navalny, Babchenko, and Timoshenko - I see you are in the looney camp, and completely clued out.

Let it be noted for all that the Navalny supporter hopes for the economic meltdown of Russia.

And that is exactly why no stable-minded people consider Navalny to be of any significance at all, except his Western backers.

You will be disappointed to know that your economic forecasts are about as amateurish as the people you think are politically significant.

We are doing quite well here in Russia and keep moving in the right direction.

WE? Who are we and who has entitled you to speak on behalf of all the Russians? I have heard it all many times. The history is the only and the ruthless judge, we will see what She says, quite soon. What is the right direction in your view? The thing is, I don't see any direction, all I see is pure and simple feudalism from the beginning of the 19th century.By hope I meant the famous battle between the fridge and the tvset. I think the tvset is losing already... Gas (aka petrol) prices have jumped over the cliff recently, for instance. Rubble keeps falling even on the backdrop of high oil prices, what will happen to it if/when oil costs 30 bucks again? Over 20 million Russians live below the poverty line (which itself is a joke, like 150 dollars per month, so in reality the penury rates are way higher), over 60% of Russians don't have any savings and live from hand to mouth. Et cetera. All this is the direct result of today's regime policies you fully support. And it is not about Nemtsov or Navalny at all, it is about ideas - they are bulletproof and you cannot throw them to prison. By and large, Russia is a European country, it is built mostly on the European culture (literature, theater, science, music, architecture, you name it). By the way, you probably didn't read what I said. As a putinist you probably should support Timoshenko, I said she is a clear-cut threat to today's Ukraine. The Kremlin would surely adore having her as the next Ukr president. Anyway, I have enough of these discussions on other forums, I don't plan to have them here as well.P.S. I live in Saint Petersburg, good enough for you?

A) Did Moby put you up to this?

B) Are you related to Ste?

Okay, those are my only two questions. Carry on.

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Jerash wrote:You called me a Putinist. I am no such thing; I did not say that and I don't align myself with anyone. I reserve my rights to be an independent person and I reject any label you try to pin to me. That being said, thank God Putin is in charge now and not Navalny. Competence vs Incompetence.... In Russia things get done differently and you should know this if you are really Russian. You do know that Russia isn't going to drop its drawers and beg for an American-NATO arsefcuk, right???

I pretty much agree with this sentiment. The western “media” offers only two choices:

A) Hate Russia and believe that NATO and company led by the USA must “save” Russia with yet another bloody war and a western aligned puppet government.

B) Be labeled a pro-Putin lap-dog (Moby and Donkhollio will be along shortly to do this).

The third option to think for yourself isn’t given.

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It is ironic though that you said I didn't read what you said and then called me a Putinist. I am no such thing; I did not say that and I don't align myself with anyone. I reserve my rights to be an independent person and I reject any label you try to pin to me. That being said, thank God Putin is in charge now and not Navalny. Competence vs Incompetence.... In Russia things get done differently and you should know this if you are really Russian. You do know that Russia isn't going to drop its drawers and beg for an American-NATO arsefcuk, right???

Not a putinist, fair enough. Are you a Russian? You sound like a Brit. There is a special layer of foreigners putinists use to their advantage perfectly well - the ones disappointed about their home countries. It is just a thought, it is not necessarily related to you personally, but I have certainly met some Westerners like that.

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A) Hate Russia and believe that NATO and company led by the USA

Why "hate putinism"="hate Russia"?

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The third option to think for yourself isn’t given.

Here is your third option - like Russia, dislike putinism:)

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A) Did Moby put you up to this?

B) Are you related to Ste?

A) No, I don't know MobyB) No, but I have met him in Spb more than once, it is a small town:)

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Send him a message, he has some decided opinions regarding the cross cultural dating scene

I know his opinions well enough. I agree with some, disagree with others.

P.S. Three posts above, I could not cope with the "quote" function and the system produced duplicate posts, sorry about the inconvenience.

It is ironic though that you said I didn't read what you said and then called me a Putinist. I am no such thing; I did not say that and I don't align myself with anyone. I reserve my rights to be an independent person and I reject any label you try to pin to me. That being said, thank God Putin is in charge now and not Navalny. Competence vs Incompetence.... In Russia things get done differently and you should know this if you are really Russian. You do know that Russia isn't going to drop its drawers and beg for an American-NATO arsefcuk, right???

Not a putinist, fair enough. Are you a Russian? You sound like a Brit. There is a special layer of foreigners putinists use to their advantage perfectly well - the ones disappointed about their home countries. It is just a thought, it is not necessarily related to you personally, but I have certainly met some Westerners like that.

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A) Hate Russia and believe that NATO and company led by the USA

Why "hate putinism"="hate Russia"?

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The third option to think for yourself isn’t given.

Here is your third option - like Russia, dislike putinism:)

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A) Did Moby put you up to this?

B) Are you related to Ste?

A) No, I don't know MobyB) No, but I have met him in Spb more than once, it is a small town:)

Here is another “third option”: like Russia and be ambivalent about Putin. I don’t see a need to hate him.

So you know Ste from the U.K.? He is some sort of self-employed computer specialist.

In regards to propaganda I find Western propaganda to be just as tyrannical as you apparently think about pro-Putin propaganda.

PS. Jerash is Canadian, I am not Jerash. We are two different people.

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like Russia and be ambivalent about Putin. I don’t see a need to hate him.

I used to be ambivalent about him (I was even pro-putin to a certain extent) till 2014. Not anymore. It is not so much about him personally, it is all about the system that he has built. You may not realize how deep the rabbit hole goes if you allow for some room for ambivalence in his case, imho.

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So you know Ste from the U.K.? He is some sort of self-employed computer specialist.

like Russia and be ambivalent about Putin. I don’t see a need to hate him.

I used to be ambivalent about him (I was even pro-putin to a certain extent) till 2014. Not anymore. It is not so much about him personally, it is all about the system that he has built. You may not realize how deep the rabbit hole goes if you allow for some room for ambivalence in his case, imho.

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So you know Ste from the U.K.? He is some sort of self-employed computer specialist.

Yes, have met him a few times here in Spb.

1. I can afford to be ambivalent; I’m American.

2. Suspect you might be referring to Steveboy, a different character than Ste. (?)

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