These bands, based on our guidelines, are not metal and that's the reason why they are blacklisted and you're obviously not the first one trying to add them. So, accept the decision or you know, contest it, but yeah, don't.

This Slipknot is also "real", for your information.

Well if the rules are like that, then so be it. I'm was just simply asking. I was just going by the descriptions that i hear most people use, so sorry!Oh, how akward for me, with not knowing about Slipknot. Serves me for not researching enough! No disrespect intended.

Vergissmeinnicht is the neofolk side project of Lu from Heartless with a worldwide distrubution and it is also a little bit significative for the chinese black metal scene. Why this band is blacklisted?

"While the song does sound more metallic than their usual stuff, we're gonna need a sufficiently metal full-length, not a "mere" split. If the band releases another album in that style in the future, you can bring it up in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=64985 For now, TGA is a stoner rock band that released a metallic split.

DO NOT go about this the way you did, i.e. submitting the band with another country to go around the blacklist. The thread linked above is there for a reason."

maybe admins not read this one closer - i talk not only about two last releases - single and split, but also about third albumhttp://thegrandastoria.bandcamp.com/album/omnipresencemy thoughts track by track:1.Doomsday Party 03:27 - stoner/punk/metal, far not clear 100% metal, but here many metal stuff under stoner/punk on the top2.Hungry & Foolish 05:46 - stoner rock3.Mania Grandiosa 07:55 - heavy metal/doom/maybe prog metal like Ayreon in the middle, after that little thrash/speed something, 4.Omniabsence 04:03 - something like metal ballad bass with space/pshyedelic, not metal track, but metal band playing pshychedelic5.Rat Race In Moscow 05:18 - stoner rock6.Something Wicked This Way Comes 12:49 - metal epic7.The Song Of Hope 05:40 - heavy funk rock with Mustaine-like vocals8.Omnipresence 06:19 - psychedelic rock9.Stonewall 05:25 - stoner intro metal/doom

I think that this is metal band, that playing in many styles and here many metal stuff, but guys not playing just stoner, or just psychedelic rock or just metal - they playing some stoner songs, some psychedelic songs, some metal songs. Here 3 metal songs with long weight and some metal moments in others. Here also 3 rock songs, one funk and 2 instrumental jams. I think this is normal proportion for bands like Megadeth/Down/Black Sabbath and others that not played only metal stuff.

Most stoner listeners critic the band - "too many metal", but metal material only grows in music - next single (after that 3rd album) "Caesar Enters The Palace Of Doom"http://thegrandastoria.bandcamp.com/alb ... ce-of-doomA side (main song) - doom metal/thrash - total metal song

guys always was metal band, that play not only metal, but stoner and pshychedelic too, some releases more metal, some not, but this is clear that guys grew on Megadeth on first place. I always tought that this is metal band and not only me, i read many reviews (stonerrock.ru forum, social networks, other web sources) that always treat the band in the way "too many metal" and guys always saying - we was and we would metal band. I think this is metal band too. Maybe they not enogh metal for metal-archives, this is ok - you will judge as moderators. I know that now Kamille (leader, author) is under big influence of Voivod (80x, Dimantion Hatros, Nothingface) now as we talk about it after i was on Roadburn and heard Dimantion Hatros (my favourite) full length live.

thanks for the fast feedback, but this is wrong, the band is not post punk, they are stoner metal. there is any chance to correct this and fill the band? you can easily verify the band style here: https://www.facebook.com/varego

@kitaevay: I agree that The Grand Astoria warrants some more analysis. I remembered their third album as being pretty straight rock, but the band doesn't make things that easy for us, it would seem. We'll keep you posted.

Heh, BlackWizard we don't give a shit if the band is made "in reference" to other bands; that argument holds up as well as saying because your friends are delinquents, you're a delinquent, or that because Black Sabbath played at the same festival as the Foo Fighters and Limp Bizkit, that such bands are automatically metal also. I'm afraid that's not how it works here.

Bands are judged on their own merits, and Varego was found to not be metal.

Heh, BlackWizard we don't give a shit if the band is made "in reference" to other bands; that argument holds up as well as saying because your friends are delinquents, you're a delinquent, or that because Black Sabbath played at the same festival as the Foo Fighters and Limp Bizkit, that such bands are automatically metal also. I'm afraid that's not how it works here.

Bands are judged on their own merits, and Varego was found to not be metal.

well, i'm sorry but your opinion is wrong. period! i think a suggestion from a metal archive user should be well accepted and took on consideration and not answered with insults by a moderator! regards

Heh, BlackWizard we don't give a shit if the band is made "in reference" to other bands; that argument holds up as well as saying because your friends are delinquents, you're a delinquent, or that because Black Sabbath played at the same festival as the Foo Fighters and Limp Bizkit, that such bands are automatically metal also. I'm afraid that's not how it works here.

Bands are judged on their own merits, and Varego was found to not be metal.

well, i'm sorry but your opinion is wrong. period! i think a suggestion from a metal archive user should be well accepted and took on consideration and not answered with insults by a moderator! regards

What insults? Anyway, the band was considered and you were given an answer. Accept it.

@kitaevay: I agree that The Grand Astoria warrants some more analysis. I remembered their third album as being pretty straight rock, but the band doesn't make things that easy for us, it would seem. We'll keep you posted.

They definitely do have some metal influences, especially in their splits and singles, but we should wait until they release a full blown metal album. Metal is simply another part of their genre with equal amounts of stoner rock, psych rock and prog. Considering the popularity of doom in Europe (Orchid being signed to Nuclear Blast), I guess it's simply a matter of time until they release a full doom or stoner metal album.

Yes, agreed. kitaevay, it's been discussed by a number of mods and the decision is to wait until they release another full-length, which will then be judged again. I wouldn't be surprised if it will be enough to get them approved. However, for now the band will stay blacklisted.

There were none, of course. But some people take it personally when you tell them their music isn't metal.

nothing of personal, i just followed your rules when you say to notify any possible mistake, giving you some links, and the answer was: "we dont give a shit". no problem though, i accept your decision of course

@Azmodes & @Metantoinethank you for the answers, i understand the position and third album is really contain more rock songs then metal. IMO first album is enough metal, but need more time for analyse and looks like was blacklisted earlier. If you have a good will for it, maybe you check first one - most tracks mixing psychedel, stoner and metal in different part of songs, except last one track. Later i will post my analyse.

nothing of personal, i just followed your rules when you say to notify any possible mistake, giving you some links, and the answer was: "we dont give a shit".

That's pretty out of context, isn't it? His actual statement was, "Heh, BlackWizard we don't give a shit if the band is made "in reference" to other bands;". You are implying that he said "we don't give a shit about you", which isn't the case at all. He could have phrased it like this and the meaning would be the same: "Heh, BlackWizard, it doesn't matter if the band is made "in reference" to other bands".

Now maybe you think he was ever so slightly too abrasive in his response, but if so I suggest you find thicker skin. Keeping in mind that the argument he was responding to was pretty asinine too.

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Markeri, in 2013 wrote:

you can debate the actual date that metal began, but a fairly agreed upon date is 1969. Metal is almost 25 years old

Extreme_violence wrote:

Why Iron maiden is there? It's very far to be metal than a lot of some metal band.

@Azmodes & @Metantoinethank you for the answers, i understand the position and third album is really contain more rock songs then metal. IMO first album is enough metal, but need more time for analyse and looks like was blacklisted earlier. If you have a good will for it, maybe you check first one - most tracks mixing psychedel, stoner and metal in different part of songs, except last one track. Later i will post my analyse.

The first album sounds considerably less metal to me than the third, to be honest, it was already considered. So my previous statement still stands. You can post an analysis, if you insist, but it won't help. This is the decision of the staff at this point. You may not want to waste your (and our) time.

This band is AS METAL AS IT GETS! this is an extremely heavy Doom metal band with psychedelic elements to the music, it never said "Psychedelic Rock" ANYWHERE! Only "Psychedelic" hence the genre tag. The genre was amended, PLEASE approve it!

And PLEASE don't ask me to resubmit it, it took me hours to do so the first time, please approve this ASAP, this was a mistake on your end, please approve!

Media-Youth was rejected, but I really think they play metal. Just listen these samples:

Oh ENOUGH already! We've already listened to those damn samples, and we didn't find them to be nearly convincing enough.

Look, I don't know about the other mods, sakuzu, but I'm getting really sick and tired of all your j-rock submissions. Just accept the fact we don't consider them metal by our guidelines and move on, please. Reposting the song samples isn't going to make us go "Hey, whoa, this actually IS metal! Holy crap, we were wrong!"

This band is AS METAL AS IT GETS! this is an extremely heavy Doom metal band with psychedelic elements to the music, it never said "Psychedelic Rock" ANYWHERE! Only "Psychedelic" hence the genre tag. The genre was amended, PLEASE approve it!

And PLEASE don't ask me to resubmit it, it took me hours to do so the first time, please approve this ASAP, this was a mistake on your end, please approve!

The band A Tear Beyond submitted by me was rejected, because it was not clear the physical release... but read here:- http://www.atearbeyond.com/there's written "in order to buy beyond contact us" and later an email address, that's logic that they are selling physical CD there's also an artwork with a CD.. i don't know why it was rejected, i also submitted flyers in the past with written OUT NOW and a CD artwork... physical release is evident here.

I tried to add the project "Сердце-Камень" which is a solo-project of ex-Alkonost's frontman, vocalist, bassist, songwriter and poet.

The project was rejected because of a lack of physical proof, however I've also added that this split EP was released through a well-reputated Russian label which is SoundAge, here's the link where you can order this split EP for 150p, so it can't be an online release!

On a side note, the project released 1 non-metal song before, so for metalness, kindly judge the first proper release which is a split EP side, since one cannot add a split release for yet-to-be accepted bands!

"This band was blacklisted because their instruments are all programmed - a band needs actual guitars for it to be regarded as metal by the site. If you want to inquire about a rejected or blacklisted band, please post in this thread instead of trying to resubmit under a different name and hope it'll get accepted.".As he had said in the additional notes, tried to add the Spell Funereal, but it didn't work, so I explained and I received the email with the proper notification, so am sending link to upload a song that will go out on our next job, to prove that only the battery is programmed.Then follow the link to the track..http://soundcloud.com/henriqueaarstad/v ... tima-necat

You'll need to supply us with ample samples of each track - which we'll be evaluating carefully to ensure that nothing's programmed. And when taking the picture, please be sure to include as many copies in the photograph as possible. Showing us one or two really doesn't convince us of anything.