The problem with Randian Nazism, malignent narcissism driven Right-Wing Idiology Authoriatrians, is its unconciously self-defeating. People with inflated egos have no regard to facts or real solutions to problems at hand. What they love is the fee ling that they are right. The universe itself becomes expendable to these emotionality-handicapped idiots.

Don't try to change their mind, it would be like getting angry at a broken record, instead of just either shutting the player, or changing the record.
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An example of these emotionally-handicapped "Smart Idiots", is Lex Luthor from the DC universe. Lex is considered by most to be one of smartest people in all of comics, yet he can't see the self-handicapping that is his fault by design. He blames a threat, a paranoid delusion that Superman's only intent is subvert all the rest of society to his will, to give him, in his twisted mindset, just cause to prey on others and maim those who don't agree with them.

In reading the comments on this thread, I find it very interesting that those who oppose the Tea party, whether they are Democrats, Republicans, or "progressives," seem to have very little knowledge of the principles of the Tea Party. In most cases, they seem to believe that the Tea Party is made up of religious right extremists.

In fact, the Tea Party was formed upon the principles of limited government, rule of law, and fiscal responsibility. Much of its base was people from across the spectrum of moderates, including Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, and Constitutionalists. Most were older voters rather than the young, including large numbers of veterans and the sons and daughters of those who fought for freedom and liberty against Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin in WWII. Those people saw more opportunity in working within the Republican party rather than establishing a separate party. The Libertarian candidate, Ron Paul, a Tea Party sympathizer, chose to pursue his candidacy through the Republican party on the strength of Tea Party.

Had the various political parties who shared these basic views come together rather than fighting among themselves over fringe issues, they might have been more successful.

Unfortunately, the Obama machine strategy, aided and abetted by t...

In reading the comments on this thread, I find it very interesting that those who oppose the Tea party, whether they are Democrats, Republicans, or "progressives," seem to have very little knowledge of the principles of the Tea Party. In most cases, they seem to believe that the Tea Party is made up of religious right extremists.

In fact, the Tea Party was formed upon the principles of limited government, rule of law, and fiscal responsibility. Much of its base was people from across the spectrum of moderates, including Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, and Constitutionalists. Most were older voters rather than the young, including large numbers of veterans and the sons and daughters of those who fought for freedom and liberty against Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin in WWII. Those people saw more opportunity in working within the Republican party rather than establishing a separate party. The Libertarian candidate, Ron Paul, a Tea Party sympathizer, chose to pursue his candidacy through the Republican party on the strength of Tea Party.

Had the various political parties who shared these basic views come together rather than fighting among themselves over fringe issues, they might have been more successful.

Unfortunately, the Obama machine strategy, aided and abetted by the left wing media, hammered the Tea Party with ridicule, deliberately choosing to identify it with religious right fervor, one of many factions long a part of the Republican party, and focus the press attention on abortion views, an anathema to the left.

Instead of standing firm with the Tea Party basic principles, the religious right and mainstream churches chose to respond with even more religious fervor, encouraging and enlivening the "debate" on abortion rights, thus aiding the media, the Democrat machine, to step up the attacks on this issue, deflecting attention away from basic principles of government and constitutional rule.

It's not about winning or losing, people, but about what kind of government we want our children to live under. It's about freedom, liberty, opportunity for all versus total government control and restricted lives under the control of bureaucratic thugs.

Yes, The mainstream media says stick to your guns , bibles, and religion tea-bagger. but , with blistered chins and sore knees they orated tea-bagger and projected their own intolerance against all others " poisoning felicity at their own fountain" so to speak , we asked for fiscal responsibility and they attack so viciously, They provide little or no solutions to problems and their answers have limited scope, It was George Bush's fault. If you didn't vote for Obama that makes you a racist ,,,They change the subject too, Shhh! Dancing with the Stars is on. '

Actually, the "Tea Party" members of Congress seem to be the only ones who actually represent their constituents, while the "establishment" Big Governmentalists seem to only want to represent their party and get re elected. Sadly, the "Tea Party" and Libertarians will not win in the near future, because the establishment is so well funded and backed by so many special interests that non-conformists will be buried in politics as usual. America loses.Only when the American Public realizes how much politics as usual hurts our quality of life will true representatives of the People win.

Actually, most GOP Senators and more than one third of the House Republicans voted against the far-right faction of the party. They realize that the Republicans will gradually disappear if they support the TP extremists.

The President will make some concessions today (12/28), but Boneher won't be able to get it through unless he gets the nonTP Republicans to side with the Democrats and he won't risk that until he's back in as Speaker on 1/3. Senator Reid (after 1/3) will have put in easier filibuster rules so he will be able to get it through the Senate. The Republicans who vote for it will have cover since they won't be increasing taxes and actually will be reducing taxes (at least for income below $250,000).