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Comment by Kalx

This is the item you get when you join a group for Coren Direbrew for Brewfest. All of his drops will come from this instead of his corpse, and has the chance to drop the remote and both mounts.

You can get 1 per day.

Comment by DANEgerous

I must say this is quite the smart preemptive solution of QQ, how many people do you think lied about having a summon? Good thing we will never have to go through it with the new "seasonal boss finder" that will be part of Dungeon finder.

Comment by Kuja

I wonder how a kodo and a ram can fit in this keg? ;o

Comment by TRoXa

You get 2 Emblem of Frost in this one

This far i've seen the Goat mount + tankard'o'terror weapon drop from it.

Comment by hellomynameis

This is obtained through the dungeon finder by doing the Brewfest boss, you can only get it once a day.

And in addition to this, you most likely get some Valor/Justice points for killing him once a day.

I truely hope, that next year, they will make this item Binds to Battle.net account, instead of Binds when picked up. This would help us mount collectors alot, and I dont see why they shouldn't make it so, when they have done it with Satchel of Exotic Mysteries.

Comment by RetroCC

Ram mount, remote, Direbrew's Bloody Shanker and Emblems of Frost are confirmed...at least they dropped for me...It cool the usage the remote will have now since we'll have insta transport for the fight because of the dungeon finder...

Comment by Nikosick

Confirmed that the Remote control thing drops from the bag. My guildie just got it.

Comment by kelevrav

I also confirm the remote and the Brewfest ram dropping from this, seeing as I got both on my first run :) Never been this lucky I believe. Although I would have preferred the Kodo on my dwarf....oh well! Happy drinking all!

Comment by Shogol

Just opened it to find the Ram and the broken bottle dagger. Which really annoyed me cause i want the ram so bad on my main.

Comment by Hueco

I can confirm it drops the Great Brewfest Kodo.

Comment by strangeMLG

It means that you can run this dungeon for Great Brewfest Kodo many times a day by dungeon finder or only ones?

Comment by Adraunn

Unfortunately, no. The item we're commenting on is the daily reward for killing Coren. You can queue up in the dungeon finder to fight him again (and as many times as you want) but only for a chance to receive his various dropped trinkets. Otherwise, the only way to get the emblems, remote and/or mounts is from the Keg-Shaped Treasure Chest.

Comment by lothaer

you can purchase the Normal and Swift Ram from Pol Amberstill for 10g for the normal ram and 100g for the swift ram.

Comment by Mitchrix

What about the Kodo?

Comment by Zarghol

No, you can't. If, for some reason, that NPC came back without anyone but you noticing, please provide a screenshot.

Comment by lothaer

the Kodo isnt at the vendor in Dun Morogh i might go have a look at Durotar

Comment by lothaer

sure thing when i get back im doing the Pink Elekk quest atm. until then here's a link Pol Amberstill

Comment by lothaer

i just uploaded a SS to the Pol Amberstill Link in my above comment when its approved you can see it for yourself

Comment by ThadeusWH

Ive' seen Great Brewfest Kodo drop twice from Coren since brewfest started this morning. i dont know if theres still a chance to get it from the keg but the kodo definately drops from Coren still. feel free to farm him

Comment by suxxyduck

Do u just fk with ppl to let them think it drop or does it rly do it ><?

i just got the Ram in the daily keg

Comment by Contay

Thank you, ThadeusWH, for creating an account just to make your unsubstantiated claim.

It's not suspicious at all.

Comment by withoutwings

you can only get the mounts on your first try in the Keg-Shaped Treasure Chest it is not a drop from the boss itself

Comment by Grakkh

This drop combined with the dungeon finder tool really is a superior method compared to the grindfest of old.

Comment by Deevan

The remote drops from the bag too, I haven't seen a Tankard drop off of the boss after 20+ runs, so I'm assuming it was removed from the loot tables or it also drops from the bag.

Comment by Domh

The Tankard O' Terror does indeed drop from the bags now. I've gotten one on my Shaman this morning and there are 4 other new ones on my AH as of this post.

Also, after running 8 fresh runs (I managed to start right when the event did, before the dailies restarted), I've seen 4 mount drops (3 rams and 1 kodo). Given this, I'd hazard a guess that the mount drop rate is currently around 5% for each mount. We'll know for sure once enough people upload their Wowhead client data, and they push out an update. . . so get uploading! :)

Comment by Deevan

Uploaded 4 toons that never saw a mount drop. :P

I'm stuffin the ballot box!

Comment by Deevan

Coren himself drops about 1.5 gold for each party member. With an ICC geared group, you can down him in under 30 seconds, and re queue and start again in another 30. 90 gold per hour isn't bad. Too bad the trinkets don't vendor.

Comment by politank

The drop rate on the mounts seems to be increased; today i killed this guy 3 times, and i got x2 kodos and x1 ram.

Comment by alanaros

Aggre with legoman60. The Trinkets will drop the normal way, by looting. But the BoE and Mounts will drop from this Container.

Comment by Cyonisper

Or you could be a normal person and just do Turny Dailies and make 200-300g in under an hour. Only once per day, but still logical...~Watch Closely as this comment disappears!~

Comment by Ixidordreamer

Last night during the opening of brewfest, I ended up doing my randoms for Coren before bed. Ended up getting the ram on both my shaman and death knight. :). And this morning managed to get the remote on my dk. Hell, my best friend got the kodo on his druid and remote on his dk last night too. They must have made the drops more frequent.

Comment by bajcli

Except that you can't do 60-120 runs in an hour, because you'll keep getting the "you have entered too many instances recently" message after, like, 8.

And what Cyonisper said.

Comment by frosbyte66

Will the boss still spawn when you use the remote? I remember Blizzard saying before Ahune that the only way to get to the holiday bosses was to use the LFD.

Comment by pook

Really....when did Wowhead turn into Thotbott?

Loads of comments since yesterday with simply incorrect information, very sad to see.

Sad now :(

Comment by Gabukuzz

Just a friendly protip: If you complete your LFD everyday without stopping, you will earn up a sum of 32 Emblems of Frost! (For the whole Brewfest Event)

Comment by Gabukuzz

Brewfest just started today, dude.. Give them atleast a few hours to catch up on it.

Comment by Kokiron

I got both the Kodo and the Ram from one chest today on my DK, so if anyone's wondering, it IS possible to get both mounts at once.

Comment by Shema

I tried on every single 80 I own, but didn't even get one drop apart from Frost Emblems. /sigh.

Comment by ciscokidd73

You should be able to farm the boss for mounts, geez. :(

Comment by Chaoyll

My guess is that these mounts probably have around a 5% chance to drop from the treasure chest now, which is an increase from when they used to drop from Coren Direbrew, which was around 1%.

Now, for anyone who doesn't like this system much - Think of it this way.

It used to be that five people formed a group themselves to go and do Coren Direbrew. Each person had a quest to activate the boss, which means you could do Coren five times a day. So if the drop chance for each kill was around 1%, then for five kills in a day that would make the chances for the mounts to drop around 5%.

And now, we only get the treasure chest once a day. So, if the current theory is right and the mounts have around 5% chance to drop from the chest, then the drop chance is actually around the same as it was before, in a sense.

But! Also consider this. There are two mounts, with a drop chance now of around 5% to drop... Each. Meaning that your chance of getting one of these mounts to drop everyday is around 10%!

And the best part is that when they do drop, they're yours right away; no rolling involved!

(But remember this is just a theory right now. I could be completely wrong about the 5% chance to drop.)

Comment by mking52

if you can only get the mount out of the chest then why did my one of guildies win it and get the needy achievement. that would imply that he drops it.

Comment by Zimn

You clearly either heard wrong, or your friend was lying, as the item level requires to be over 185 to obtain needy, and the Brewfest Ram/Kodo is only fourty

Comment by nikbos

I got online today, clear direbrew in 30 seconds and received 1 mount and a Tankard o' Terror and a shanker. The drop chances are MUCH higher in my opinion. (Im still in shock from all the loot)!

Comment by Kosume

Yes, you could down him 5 times back then and have a 5% drop chance of a specific mount dropping (10% for either, as you state, due to the fact that there's two of them).

But since you had to roll on them, it would lower it back down to 1%, since you have four other party members rolling on it. Unless it's the odd case where they didn't want or need it. Even then, you have better luck in this year's Brewfest when running with a random group.

So yeah, love this new system. :D

Comment by Charran

I got the Brewfest Kodo today. I questioned how do they fit a kodo or a ram in a treasure chest?

Comment by Boltherald

So the remote is now 1 chance per day instead of 5... gg Blizz.

Comment by vladwanman

It's possible that he rolled need on the trinket.

Comment by shoover56

You guys are looking at it in a bad way.

You assume that doing this once per day means that they reduced the chances of getting the item. That's not true at all.

The previous method had it where you would have 5 attempts to kill Coren Direbrew and then you would have 5 chances at whatever it was that dropped per day. The loot from those 5 attempts must be rolled by all 5 characters. In this method, each of the 5 people every day have their own "loot table" in which of something drops, it belongs to them. Technically, based on luck and RNG, this does NOT change the probably of something dropping for you. It might however give you the chance of getting something twice and being unable to roll for it.

I got the Brewfest Kodo outta my Keg, I couldn't imagine forcing myself to cough up money to ask someone else that won it to give it to me. I think this method is much more "cleaner". Not necessarily better, but to me nothing in probability has changed.

Comment by GoldenGoat

Even if it were a statistical wash with your odds of getting a mount drop before, being able to bypass the rigmarole of 1) getting a group of five together to do the quest (taking on faith that all five are being truthful about having the quest available still) 2) Getting them all to BRD and 3) mowing down Coren five separate times is a a win for most players.

Given that anecdotal evidence is strongly suggesting a much improved drop rate, the improvement becomes overwhelmingly clear.

The only players for whom this is worse is if you have unlimited funds and a life-or-death imperative to get a mount by any means necessary. (I myself paid 4k for a ram last year, which in retrospect seems profoundly silly. Hey, I love rams and I play horde!) Under this system, it's certainly possible for unlucky players to run the attempt once a day during Brewfest, get no drop each day, and simply be SOL.

Comment by Hyperlynx

Thanks for that information. Also *!@# you, lucky bastard!

Comment by Gozno

Either I'm super lucky or they increased the drop rate of these mounts, cause I got both from one keg o.O

Comment by Majahai

I know this seems silly, but everyone seems to be having quite a bit of luck when it comes to this event.

I got a keg today with only x2 Frost Emblems.

Was I suppose to get a rare drop? or is it normaly for some people to only get the 2 Emblems?

Comment by whosgotdaclap

I love this idea in a way. Still havent got my mounts yet on three of my characters. -__-

ooooh wowhead needs to fix the typo about what coren direbrew drops. I did the extra runs for no reason today.

Comment by Vonjovi

Incase it hasn't been said yet, it is possible to get more than one rare item from this chest, for example, i got both of the mounts from it on my last run.

Comment by Draintwo

Just to confirm that you can get multiple items from the keg. I got extremely lucky apparently. I received the Brewfest Ram, The Shanker, The Tankard of Terror, and the Direbrew Remote all in the keg on my first time doing this. Worst part is it was on my alt whom I never play anymore.

It does seem to me they increased the drop rate though on these items based on the amount of mounts I've seen drop this early.

Comment by kafn

You'll get it if you try to run anything -without- using LFD after reaching the limit, but you can continue to run instances through LFD as fast as you can finish them.

Comment by tinker19

Why is everyone that got lucky with this 'assuming' therefore that the drop rate is increased? I've done this on everyone of my characters and my partners characters twice now (thats a total of about 25 loots in total thus far) and every time gotten just 2x emblem of frost. It seems Blizz made the peddlefoot pet grindable in response to player comments but now have made this and the other boss drops unattainable for those of us with poor in game luck - it sucks imo. If I want to put in the time and effort to grind a pet or mount then I should be able to, waay too much of the game is already about luck and its the one reason I don't like playing.

Comment by Deathturtle

This new method is far superior, no wondering about who has summons or who should go first, and a much shorter 'daily' as you only kill him once if you are looking for rare drops. One group I did this morning killed him in 10 seconds (high GS and bloodlust).

As for the bag drops, the previous comments are correct, it is truly random and does not take into account what you may already possess. My hunter got a remote yesterday, and got a 2nd this morning (they share CD's sadly).

Comment by Deevo

The Keg-Shaped Treasure Chest is automatically looted when you kill Coren. So if you have a full inventory like I did, you won't get it. It's not on his corpse, and if you run the encounter again, you won't be rewarded with a second chance to get your Keg. I just wasted my run for today because I wasn't paying attention. So beware!

If this happens it'll end up in your mail! Thanks to Cindered for this information!

Comment by lizzurd

Duh :p

I think the Dungeon Finder is the best thing they added to this game in a long time.

Comment by leobolin

Alliance player here, I just got my second kodo. Still no ram. >.<

Comment by Loppebid

About ThadeusWH's post

Actually guys dont flame him, just when this event started blizzard had forgotten to remove some of the quests from previous years like the pink elekk quest and the wolpertinger quest. i did those on my main the day of event start. But it didn't take long before i couldnt hand in the quest on my other chars, and i asked a GM who told me that they had forgotten to remove the quests.

so they might also have forgotten to remove the chance of kodo to drop from Coren, and if ThadeusWH farmed him just when event launched, then its not impossible he did see the mount drop.

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Comment by zCourge

My dwarf pally friend just got his Kodo, so I can confirm that it drops for alliance too

Comment by Bortt

Yesterday my undead rogue got the Kodo mount, and I was upset that I didn't get the ram. This morning I got the ram. I am either super lucky or the drop rates are much higher than last year. Either way I'm happy :)

Comment by shirju

wonder why ppl down-rate a normal question...but anyway, now all event bosses are possible to see only getting into the instance by using the LFG tool. In case of Brewfesr using remote will only teleport u to the instance and nothing else.

Comment by Umbraven

Whats the drop rate for the items out of this keg, done it everyday for 4 days on both my 80's haven't gotten anything other than those freaking frost emblems...

Comment by sTyLnK

I would think Blizzard increased the drop rate slightly seeing as we only have 16 chances as apposed to roughly 80 (if you did it 5x a day) on a character from years past. It really does seem like more people are getting items especially the rare mounts.

Comment by crhonos

Is there a new drop chance out of the bag now that you can only do it once a day?

Comment by SpecificRandom

Both mounts are open to both horde and alliance, one of my guildies got both this morning and was able to use both.

Comment by cheriqua

I don't know about you guys, but Atleast 90% of the time I've been getting ONLY badges, nothing else.Definitely no mounts have dropped for me QQ

Comment by DrakkonDarkspell

I'd really like to see the holiday items turned BoA. It would be much more exciting to know that the drops could be sent to alts who might be able to use them. Particularly since they can't be DE'd. Not just Brewfest ones, either. It would fit the holiday mood for gift giving if I could regift some of my old trinkets to younger alts who could use them. That and the fruitcake. Really, Fruitcake should NOT be BOP.

Comment by beastly

ive got mixed feelings about this new lil system. its awesome that there wont be any competition for the special drops, but personally, i have just about THE WORST in game luck. i have been trying for three years now to get that ram. dont want the kodo, for as a tauren, im just plain sick of them. always getting stuck in EVERY doorway.... anyways. so far, every single day, i wake up early excited to try again for the ram, and what do i get? a couple of hope crushing frost emblems. yay me.

by trying for two previous years, i just mean that i have the worst luck and my parties are full of asshats, just to clear up anything misconstrued. :)

Comment by Levant

my brother did this 2 days ago on his rogue the container had both mounts in it >,<

Comment by Mairin

Still a relatively small sample size so take it with a huge pillar of salt but so far out of 238 bags (17x 14 days) I've come up with:

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Comment by ale2x

By Kokiron 8 days ago (Patch 3.3.5)I got both the Kodo and the Ram from one chest today on my DK, so if anyone's wondering, it IS possible to get both mounts at once.

I had both the Ram and the Kodo drop for me today on my shammy, i can confirm this information too.

Yorke.

Comment by Occultus

I've been runing through this event for 9 days with 4 toons and I'm yet to see a mount drop... I'm pretty sure blizzard lowered the drop rates! ;-)

Anyway, whoever says the new Keg-Shaped Treasure Chest is an improvement is forgetting one thing : guildmates! Most of mine don't care at all about mounts (and I used to be like them). On previous editions, I could have queued with several of my guildies reroll and run through this event a lot more than 5 times a day,

And now that I've started gathering achievements and mounts on my main, it's no longer possible, and I'm left with pure RNG... Seeing how lucky I am so far, I guess I'll end up with one mount drop on the alt I less care about!

Comment by gerakios

You sir are correct, that is not how math works. This is how math works:

Let X be the event that you get the Great Brewfest Kodo. Because there is a chance that you will get the Kodo, X is a random variable. Furthermore, because you either get the Kodo or you do not get the Kodo, X ~ binom(n, p), where binom() is the binomial distribution, n is the number of trials, and p is the probability of success.

Now, let's assume that you run the Coren Direbrew dungeon once per day, every day during Brewfest. That means that n = 16. Next, there are two different drops rates given by wowhead for the Kodo, 1.6% based on previous years and 2% based on this year's limited data. Therefore, p = 0.016 or 0.020 (I shall use both in the calculations below).

To determine the cumulative probability of an event, you must evaluate P(X = x | n, p) = (n choose x)*p^x*(1 - p)^(n - x). Thus, the cumulative probability that you will get a Kodo by the end of Brewfest is P(X = 1) = (16 choose 1)*(0.016)^1*(0.984)^15 = 0.20098 or P(X = 1) = (16 choose 1)*(0.020)^1*(0.980)^15 = 0.23634.

As you can see, there is roughly a 20% chance that you will obtain the Kodo by the end of Brewfest. Additionally, because the events "you get the Kodo" and "you get the Ram" are independent, but not mutually exclusive, these calculations are valid for the Ram. The independence of the events also leads to the conclusion that you have about a 40% chance of getting one or the other (but not both, that would be P(X = 2)/2 = 0.018085 ).

Obviously, I prefer to rely on the older data because there is a much larger sample size, and is therefore more accurate.

Edit: Brewfest is shorter this year than it was last year, so the above probabilities slightly overestimate what should be expected this year. Using 2% drop chance and 13 days you should arrive to P(X = 1) = (13 choose 1)*(0.020)^1*(0.980)^12= 0.20403; and using 1.6% drop chance, you should arrive at P(X = 1) = (13 choose 1)*(0.016)^1*(0.984)^12 = 0.17140.

Edit 2: Ignore the previous edit, I can't count. Brewfest is still 16 days this year.

Comment by iloveless

i was extremely lucky with this on my pally... i got the kodo the ram and the remote in one run.. i think i was the first one on my server to get it in one go cause when i asked in trade no one believes me.

Comment by Rampager

Drop chance is so high! O_O

Past 5 days ive got three mounts so far.

My other freind got both in one keg first day.

You will with high chances end this brewfest with atleast one of them.

Comment by Shadowreign

Not sure if this was posted or not yet, but the minimum level to que for Coren is 78 (not 80). So those of you with high level alts who aren't quite 80 yet can still get frost emblems as well as a chance to get the rare drops =D

Comment by Mairin

...and you're judging this from a 6 keg sample size?

Comment by qutyre

Haha i got the Ram mount from that twice in a row ( Different Char's) XD

Comment by gs96

Man I just got a second kodo out of one of these, would of love to get the ram.

Comment by Fiyasoldier

The only drawback to this is if u get the same mount twice

Comment by valencyGal

Did this every day so far, and no mount has dropped for me yet :(

Comment by Mairin

If it was just 1 or 2 toons I could see it just being the RNG but ever since around Friday-ish the drops in these seem to have well...dropped off big time. Out of the last 4 days I've had 2 of those days with zero bag loot (other than frosts obviously) on 14 different toons. Even if that happened on just 1 day, 14 "empty" loot bags is virtually the equivalent of a single toon player going the entire holiday without even getting a shanker/tankard/remote nevermind a mount. Under the assumption it IS just the RNG being freaky, I can understand people not being overly happy about getting similar luck if they are in fact just doing the event on one toon.

Comment by Drantor242

Just for some info... I did the dungeon at least once a day except for one day (So i got the keg everyday during brewfest except for one day). My loot was 2 Emblem of Frosts every time, and i got one Brewfest Kodo and one Brewfest Ram

Comment by Honegumi

I absolutely hate everything about this game that revolves around RNG. There are people out there who are bitterly forsaken by Luck and suffer from it in every one of these events.

I try for every Random Mount that I can (except Baron Rivendare's Deathcharger 'cause it's boring to me) and yet I have seen only Brewfest Ram drop ONCE and I lost the roll. That and when the Fiery Warhorse dropped and I got a 1 on the roll.

This year I thought "Hey, you won't get ripped off by people claiming to have summons this year, that's cool..." but then I realized that this also means that if you run with people you know and trust and they get..."for example" Swift Brewfest Ram twice in a row (day after another) when they already had both mounts from a previous year, they can't give one to you.

If someone who doesn't care about the mounts gets the Ram and the Kodo both that year, there is no giving that item away to someone who actually wants it.

I had to watch 2 rams drop and get destroyed, and both a Kodo and a Ram drop for my GF who doesn't care about mounts on the toon she plays with me.

It's not fair to the people who played the game nicely to do things this way, because you end up with people who get in my situation. I didn't get one mount...that's every year so far, I try for the mounts (every single one) and it never drops. I wish that they weren't BoP to the point that they're untradable when they come from the bag. My GF got a second Blue Drake the same way...it's broken and unfair.

Comment by shoover56

Man I was excited to read your comment, but then I read further and was dissapointed.

Ill say one thing and one thing only, you are not entitled to anything that has a random drop. If it exists it means you should get it somehow, but its not guaranteed to be yours. It doesnt make a difference who you are, if you get it it has nothing to do with you. You beat RNG, thats it. Stop &*!@#ing about it. I agree that it should be BoP and not BoE. Thats just how it is. Stop entitling yourself to everything in this game.

Comment by Suffuri

Though I agree that it should be random and if you don't get the mount, too bad... But in most cases it is just annoying. On day 4 I got both the tankard and shanker... Sold the tankard and banked the shanker. On day 9 I got the remote! That rocked. Day 11 AND 12 I got 2 more shanks. Being a druid, I can only use 1, not to mention, I have no desire keep the two. If I was blizzard, I would've made the shanks tradable, or at least have added a line of code preventing duplicate drops. They could've added code that would swap in an item in place of what you would've looted. All in all, I gave it my best, but ended up with no mount, seeing my friends get both on multiple characters... :( And on those that act like losing a roll on a raid mount doesn't suck... Look at it this way. If a mount drops in a 25man instance .3% of the time, and you need to roll against 24 other players, don't you think the drop rate should be higher? I understand, it is to keep mounts rare, but blizz, that goes a bit far.

Comment by ExperimentX4d2

GIVE ME MY KODO THIS YEAR!

Comment by Sopron

Not 24%...Maybe 3-7%I done this with 4 characters at last year and all day with all chars = 0 mount...

Comment by Nulapwn

I hate that guy

Comment by Drklf

Doesn't seem to be dropping anything else except for 23 justice points at the moment. It is possible you won't be seeing any drops untill daily reset.Done this on 5 toons already and all I get is 23 jp and a message "there is no loot".

4:05AM Stormreaver EU.

Will update this once the reset comes in couple of hours.

EDIT: Yeah looks like I was just unlucky. Did it 9 times and got one tankard.

Comment by Deviruchi13

CURSE YOU!

Comment by Tartonga

Mine was empty. :(

Comment by MasterchiefJ

Got a Shanker and a Tankard in it today, so it can contain these two at the same time. :)

Comment by Bimking

So all you get from this now is 24 justice points? I have gotten 3 of this treasure chest so far, all 3 times it was nothing. Or is it just a small chance for it to drop anything at all?

Comment by DownV

I've got both The Ram and The Kodo today. Is it wierd ?

Comment by Abrin

Keep in mind now that badges effectively don't exist these chests will only reward JP. The 'chest is empty error' is a bit misleading because of this.

Comment by Jaldy

Picked up my Brewfest Kodo on my first day! Yeah!

Comment by Kedarnath

I am in the same boat, I have done it on my 5 85's and NOTHING but JP...

Comment by electrifying

is this chest just like a once a day drop or is it a loot?

Comment by Schadenfreude

**** that guy.

Comment by chicane300

thought the mount drops from the Keg-Shaped Treasure Chest and the Keg-Shaped Treasure Chest only drops once a day.... so tell me what strategy did you used to get both mounts on a single day? Different characters maybe? Well I'm at 143 mounts had the ram dropping today(already had it from the previous year) don't think I will be sooo special to see the kodo

Comment by nerfologist

The keg-shaped treasure chest can be "empty", meaning it will only contain some JP and it will display the message "no loot". This is intended (I contacted a GM about it).

Comment by Thirsom

Actually, it is perfectly possible to get two kegs on the same calendar day - one between midnight and the daily instance reset and one after that. It just has a low probability to actually happen.

Comment by slythwolf

Except, of course, that it's not possible to kill this boss an infinite number of times per day, because it takes time to kill him. ;)

Comment by slythwolf

I realize this comment is from last year, FWIW; I'm just really pedantic. XD

It's possible that what mking52 is talking about is having seen his guildie's achievements pop up in chat:

If this is what he's saying, what probably happened was that the guildie won a need roll for one of the trinkets with a roll of 100 and looted one of the mounts from his loot keg at the same time.

Comment by slythwolf

It's also possible for both mounts to drop in the same keg.

Comment by Lamynx

Darn, I was wondering why I didn't get anything.

Comment by Greenhooves

I just wish the thing also had some vendor trash in it. It sucks to crack one open and find nothing.

Comment by iambigdaddy

100% agreed. I thought I missed something when I opened it. My first only had 24 Justice Points.

Comment by Steinberg5

Im glad to hear that mine wasnt the only one that was empty. I dont think mine even contained Justice Points.

Comment by Kavaria

Agreed.

I was unaware that "nothing" was even possible, so imagine my surprise when I open my keg for the first time to nothing. I honestly thought there was a glitch going on or something.

Personally I think it should it drop more alcohol.

Comment by Aradroth

I've gotten nothing out of the chest on 5 different chars

Comment by eru878

There is no justice in the RNG.

Comment by Tartonga

If yours appears "empty," check to see if you've received Justice Points. Both the Love is In The Air and Midsummer Festival daily dungeons did the same thing.

I looted it again today, it was empty again. I did get 26 JPs each time, but I still do think my keg was "empty" nonetheless.

It is funny, I was actually miffed that all I received was 24 JP’s (aka empty syndrome), but then when I had time to think about how easy the event was (60 sec zerg for 85’s) it made perfect sense that you would only receive a small amount of JP.

Dude, you can only get one keg per day, so it's actually 24 JPs every 24 hours. You should actually still be miffing.

Comment by DownV

For me dropped 1st day in 1 keg!

Comment by Malenurse

Well complaining that it doesnt have loot is same complaining u dont every time get loot to urself from raid boss. After all the boss is piss ez and still award jp. Damn players are spoiled these days.

Comment by Shaitan051

Wish they updated amount of points you get from an "empty" keg along with the gear. 26jp is nothing.

EDIT: Not sure why this warrants 4 downrates.EDIT2: A lot of downrates on this page now that I Iook at it. Apparently someone has multiple accounts and needed to feel special.

Comment by Icehawknel

Wow... you know nothing of statistic's. Assume it is a 2% chance to get the mount. and you do run Direbrew EVERY day. That Will NEVER give you a 32% chance at a mount. It will consistently be a 2% chance.

Comment by santo51

day 2, 3 toons and the chest has only had 1 item in it. the remote control for just one of the toons. so 1/6 tries got a prize. =( what is the deal?

Comment by Marsaeus

It is entirely possible (and highly likely) that you will get no actual loot items from the chest, although you get justice points when opening it. That is frustrating, at least for me.. so far, 3 days in a row = nothing but a few measly justice points.

Comment by Banishment

3 x days 4 x characters, no loot at all yet. Even if my two 84 characters I only use professions on got something, I'd be a lot happier. Although I'd prefer my two mains get something instead.

Edit: 4th day, 4 characters, still nothing.

Comment by Zhemi

So I just realise it was brewfest so I went all spaz like "Yeah, lets kill some bosses"

I got the remote the first timeand I'm just all like "Yeah!"

Next day:

You recieve 25 JP's "BULLSH*T"

Comment by hannibalektr

Dont open this outside the instance? I left the instance and went to open it in orgrimmar and some yellow text read something like "Must be near .... "... I caught it just as I clicked it, and got nothing.

Just make sure you open this in the instance, or at least be sure to read before you do. Anyone else see this?

Comment by slimberton

Yeah, I'm sure completly that they lowered the % on drop. With luck wowhead should look into this and restart the drop rate satistics. And maybe fix a few link conections I noticed earlier trying to get to this page... I and about 9 other friends have gotten 25 jp from their kegs between 2 days in a row. a few just got the mount however. I beleive in my opinion chances of things are (now this is just my guess this is not true)

Comment by wugguh

OH My Goodness! I just got 3 drops in my Keg! The shanker and the mug (which were the 2 I wanted for that toon) AND the ram! I was shocked. This after a day or 2 of getting "no loot"!

Comment by MelancholyRose

Do not try and get the loot. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth.

What truth?

"There is no loot." Then you'll see it is not the loot that drops, only your heart.

EDIT: I finally got both mounts on my fifth year of doing the event. Still do not have Horseman's Reins. I do now. Also took five years (too long).

Comment by guatafu

The keg can include more than one item. I got a Tankard+Remote on one.

Comment by Zanzah

I really think they should low the rate of the mounts. My friend found both mounts today in one $%^&ing bag. I know he is lucky and all, but really, I've gotten the kodo twice now aswell...

Comment by tiagoigansi

We hate you!

Comment by Yezmina

The developers of this game, and specifically those devs that design and update these events, need to revisit them. Obviously they are incredibly popular. While it is understood that players get gold and JPs from the boss loot plus gear upgrades, getting no loot in this chest is very disappointing. Instead of whining, let me make a few suggestions:

Getting vendor trash (at least) is better than nothing and event specific items are just fun. Add more of those. Keep the content both legacy and nostalgic... while also updated with fresh and new... and you will keep my subscription.

Update (as of 09/26/11): Guys guys guys! We did it! They added Brewfest Prize Tokens to this averaging around 15 per chest. Thank you for listening, WoW Devs! ^_^

Comment by Alonei

This is my second year trying to get ANYTHING from the chest, on all my alts I've gotten absolutely nothing.

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Comment by 3phase

Not sure about the drop rates but I've done 20 runs across my 4 characters and only had the Swift Brewfest Ram drop for my rogue, and guess what?.. yup, it was the only thing my rogue already had. :D

Comment by Immortalsoul

"There is no loot." !@#%&@!

Comment by YoSeMiThE

Can somebody tell me what lvl i need to do direbrew core event? i'm lvl 78

Comment by Eclipsegirl

I am disappointed by the lack of loot from the treasure chest. It doesn't seem to make a difference if you open the chest in the instance or after you have left. (It shouldn't.)

The first day I received an extra 24 JPs but the next three times there was no loot.

@ YoSeMiThE reading the past posts you used to be able to get this boss at lvl 78. If you're not getting it then Blizz has changed it to lvl 80+ without increasing the power of the boss.

During the midsummer festival, there is a Lord Ahune and the first successful kill of the day you get a bag that has the chance of getting a rare pet (Frigid Frostling). This year you could only get the dungeon if you were lvl 84 or 85, and the boss was tough to kill.

Comment by dinovictor

I'll give you a list on items that have a chance to drop from this Box(keg) , since the one wowhead posted was not true,

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Comment by zaheer12a

As of today it seems to drop 10-15 Brewfest Prize Token. Before today you either got the mounts/remote/weps or nothing.

Update: I ticketed an issue with Ram Racing (I didn't get mounted when I 'completed' the quest) and the GM told me in reply that this was an issue that quite a few players had. She also told me that the tokens dropping from this keg were meant as a compensation for this. (Btw this bug happens when you move or perform other actions right after completing the quest that starts Ram Racing or can be caused by addons.)

Edit: Lolz at the 3 people who downrated this comment. It seems like you have nothing better to do.

Comment by LaCrysta

The addition of the Brewfest Prize Token is a nice touch. It guarantees the keg will contain something, and it helps people collect the tokens, possibly to make up for the buggy nature of the Brew for Brewfest dailies; obviously it's only helpful for level 84's and 85's, but they're the only ones who could complete all the achievements in Brewfest anyway. Thanks to the extra tokens, it's time for some Disturbing the Peace.

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Comment by viega

After the first week running 6 toons a day (42 kegs) I've gotten:2 Rams2 Shankers4 Remotes

Comment by dehotz

Confirmed, opened 19 kegs today and yesterday, every keg had between 10-15 tokens.

Comment by xxMorGotHxx

If you have free space in your bags when you kill Coren, you get the Keg-Shaped Treasure Chest instantly. However, if your bags are full, you will get it by mail. I've killed Coren every single day last year and this year too and I had gotten nothing so far, not even the remote. But today I went there with my bags full (intentionally) and when I opened the mailed Keg-Shaped Treasure Chest I've got a Swift Brewfest Ram and a Tremendous Tankard O' Terror! It may be superstitious, but I'll try it tomorrow again. ^^

Comment by dedicance

I have seen that now it drops something not leaving you without anything at the end with only justice points but also the event coins drop from this now...

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Comment by The1337ScareCrow

At first i get alot of justice points...Now i get those tokens..Wheres mah mounts blizzard!

Comment by RajahSummercry

*not* trolling here, but I just got both mounts, and the blue rare, in 1 keg shaped treasure chest. Unfortunately, I had the ram already. I couldn't believe it lol.

Comment by Fhoonigan

I've seen a lot of people stressing in trade tonight, over how brewfest is over, and they've gotten no mount, and therefore can't earn the Brewmaster achievement. Go to the brewfest vendor, buy hops, use them on your mount, get the Achi. So many people saying they're opening tickets to GMs to beg, it's ridiculous! Just.. Do the damn hops.

Comment by Botwin

last day of brewfest, and I got both the Kodo and the Ram in 1 barrel! :DOver the moon

Comment by zaheer12a

Jesus I think more idiots decided to make a WoWHead account. More and more comments that add some value to the topic get downrated....

Also:

whats a shanker?

you mean a kodo?

If you bothered to press the button saying "Contains (6)" you might have noticed that there is only one item with "shanker in it, that being Direbrew's Bloodied Shanker.

This is the original comment that got downrated because some idiots find it fun to downrate:

After the first week running 6 toons a day (42 kegs) I've gotten:2 Rams2 Shankers4 Remotes

Comment by Biggus1

Estimating the actual drop probabilities

Wowhead reports only on treasure chests that contain an item. In order to estimate drop probabilities accurately, we need a good estimate of the number of treasure chests that people actually opened. We will figure this out by guessing the number of treasure chests and then using basic probability to check our guess.

Our data:

4414 chests contained a remote

4274 chests contained a shanker

4282 chests contained a tankard

2330 chests contained a kodo

2192 chests contained a ram

23255 chests contained some tokens

35222 chests contained one or more of the above

Suppose that n chests were opened. Then the empirical probability that a chest contained a remote is 4414/n and so on. Let p1 = 4414/n, p2 = 4274/n, p3 = 4282/n, p4 = 2330/n, p5 = 2192/n. Let p = 1-(1-p1)(1-p2)(1-p3)(1-p4)(1-p5). Assuming that the empirical probabilities are equal to the theoretical probabilities, p is the probability that the chest contained at least one item other than a token. Then (n-23255)p = 35222-23255. I put the formulas in a spreadsheet, and found that n=89059 minimized |(n-23255)p-35222+23255|. This gives the following estimates:

P(remote) = 0.049562649

P(shanker) = 0.047990658

P(tankard) = 0.048080486

P(kodo) = 0.026162432

P(ram) = 0.024612897

I like round numbers, so I'll estimate that the remote, shanker, and tankard had 5% drop rates and the kodo and ram had 2.5% drop rates. Those estimates imply an approximately 18.5% chance to get at least one good item from your treasure chest, an approximately 1.5% chance to get at least two. There was also a 1/12,800,000 chance to get all 5. Screenshot, anyone?

Comment by Deathbang

Keg-Shaped Treasure Chest, Y U NO GIVE ME MOUNT?

Comment by rabbitboi

Just did this today, a few days after Mists of Pandaria launch, and he dropped the 365 shanker. Looks like as of now the weapons have not been upgraded to MoP-level gear.

Comment by Ownedhs

The mounts, should be a bit more drop rate, like up to 10% it would still be harder to get. but a bit easier to!

Comment by wutru

1 out of 4 characters and i only received the shanker. Every chest else was just tokens. Is it once per account now?

Comment by chrth

Brewfest----------- Keg-Shaped Treasure Chest should now be awarding level-90 items.

Currently unknown what the ilvl of the items will be, will update.

Confirmed in-game that the items are ilvl i470.

Comment by ZeeStorm

Maybe they upped the drop rate of the mounts in 5.4 as well? Ran alt, got nothing, then main got brewfest ram.. waited an hour for daily reset, then ran alt again, nothing, ran main again got brewfest kodo. GG

Comment by DELValdregan

Seems the drop rate of the mounts have increased since the 5.4 or I just got lucky with drops.

5 runs and 5 mounts so far, 3 kodos and 2 rams.

Edit: Seems I turned out lucky! not a single drop since then.

Comment by Kennetth

I don';t think this is in the game anymore. If you google "mounts no longer in WoW" every website has this as taken out since it was an older ram model.

Comment by Garemyth

Time to start the yearly tradition of hunting these seemingly elusive mounts. I'll visit my long lost maxlevel alts who I once enjoyed playing but now find repulsive. Their... *Shivers* quest gear and half-filled talent tree greet me when I log into their world. The 135/225 professions I once thought I'd "max out" with items I'd farm make my mind feel empty. "What was I thinking?" "I had almost maxed out my jewelcrafting but then I ditched it to get cool transmogs with leatherworking :/". Then I see that my character is still in its old guild "Insert outdated popcultural reference" with guild banks empty and characters like "Kittehdroodzpwn" only remaining. With latest logging in taking place at around three months ago, excluding me ofcourse.

So, I start to queue as dps since my skills with this alt aren't good enough to heal or tank even a boss like this. The queue is 12-20 min ofcourse, since I queued my main characters at a time when actual humans play this game and postponed logging onto my alts to do this daily hellfarm to a time at which only bots and "nolifes" are online (hmm?).

I start finding ways to pass time as I wait on this godforsaken realm and I go to a mailbox since I seem to have the mail icon up. The old safari hat from Breanni and a couple of fairly recent goldfarmer letters giving me a once in a lifetime opportunity to buy the cheapest gold in the world... of warcraft (Sorry I just had to do that, don't hate me).

10 minutes in and I start looking around my bank and bags for any interesting stuff I might have forgotten. Seems that I have cleaned out everything except quest items and an incomplete stack of Bloody Bear Paws and food items.

Just as I'm getting anxious at nothing to do while waiting, a level 27 passes me by and turns back at my direction and starts running towards me and stops in front of me. At first there is a big silence between us and both of our characters just stare blankly at each other. As I am starting to type "Can I help you with something?" the level 27 sprouts out a chunk of text not very different to this what I am writing now. On this text it comes clear to me that the level 27 had inspected my gear, achievements, talents and glyphs and pointed out EVERY SINGLE DETAIL that was wrong with my character and told me that I just should quit playing and go try something easier. Then along comes a second textbubble from the same character, much shorter though. Only saying "noob". After that the level 27 disappears. I'll never know if he was a troll or a troll.

"Finally!" as the sound of a dungeon ready to enter caresses my ears after 17 minutes of waiting which seemed like forever. The first time a healer declines or is afk. Second time two dps. Third time the tank, healer and dps decline. I get in on the 4th time though.

I say "Hi" to everyone on the group. No reply. The tank runs to Coren Direbrew and starts the event. As the fight starts we all join in with the tank and get him down pretty fast even though my gear sucks. As I am typing the traditional "thanks for the group" everyone has already left with the feral druid rolling need on an intellect trinket and winning. Brewfest tokens again!

I leave and log out and feel satisfied that I have to do that only till the end of Brewfest. Being happy for others who got their mounts on the first try and say "I dnt kno if its luck or if the rate has been increasd but i got it on mah first try :p".*!@#ing ":p"? &*!@ING ":p"? And I reply "Grats :)"

So the lesson is: If you go on a trip, ALWAYS remember to arrange a trusted person to feed your pets while you're gone.

HAPPY HUNTING! :)

Comment by jodle

I've done Coren Direbrew on 6-10 chars every day since 2012. Do the math. Still not a single mount. 4% drop rate my .... :(

Comment by Moltakfire

Okay I know this is a rare case, but two days ago, I got the ram on my druid. I logged into today, and got both the direbrew remote, and the Kodo on my priest. I then logged into my paladin an hour later, and picked up another kodo. After that, I logged into my monk, and got another kodo.

Either wow is bugged, or my luck is going crazy today. So I urge everyone to get on their alts and go mental today... who knows, maybe it'll bug for everyone else too!

Comment by Grammie

nothing...killed the guy twice and got nothing...nothing the first time but some follow up quest so I thought - hey maybe I did something wrong...nope - nothing