Church records of Cañadas de Obregon? Perez family?

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By Steve G. Apodaca - Posted on 09 February 2014

Has anybody researched in or around Cañadas de Obregon? I'm looking for the church records for this town but they don't come out on familysearch. Were they ever filmed? And if not, are they located in another parish? I'm trying to find info on the Perez family (yes, those from the famous corrido), who may be related to my wife. I was able to find the civil registry of Cañadas, and the death certificates of Ysidro Perez, Mariano Perez, and Jesus Munoz Perez. However, I'm also interested in their church records since they may provide additional information about this family.

Any advice? I learned that the town was named Villa Obregon for several decades, but that name does not come out on familysearch either.

Today this municipality is pretty small, about 3,500 people. Could it have been too small to have a parish of its own?

Perhaps there are records for it as a branch (or a chapel) of a larger parish? When looking at a map, there are some larger towns with parish churches in the vicinity. The Family Search catalog does not necessarily provide any details on branches/chapels that may be included. I looked at the catalog for Jalostotitlan, as an example, and the catalog gave no information.

Your option would seem to be to peruse the church records for the nearby communities. Records for a branch/chapel could be mixed with the regular parish records, they could be added at the end of a month or year. There is always the unfortunately possibility they are completely out of order, and may be found with another year.

The fact that the filmed civil records date from 1870 is suggestive of a rather small community (although there is always the possibility that earlier records could have been lost).

George Fulton is correct. I recall a couple of Jalostotitlan records of my family stated that they were born in Canadas (villa de Oregon). I believe that is where you will find the old records. Canadas was small when I was growing up and visited in 1960's. When I visited in the 1980's it had grown quite a bit but still had the small town atmosphere. It is a nice place to visit, very relaxing. I remember going to see the bulls in the old stadium that the people there were very proud of. I don't know if I remember correctly, but canadas was known for its candy stands. The name has gone back and forth, since the formal name was not used by many people.
An uncle of mine owned a ranch between Valle de Guadalupe and Canadas. I remember riding horses there when I was a kid. The first time I rode a horse there, I learned to duck when riding by a tree with low branches when it is windy. it only took a few scratches to learn my lesson. This uncle was married to my maternal aunt. It turned out that he was related to my wife. My wife's great great grandmother. Feliciana Munoz de La Barba, visited this ranch often when it belonged to her father. The ranch was passed down to the first born son for many generations, even today. my first cousin inherited it.
There was a a couple of big scandals in Canadas, one was a big shootout in the town square, and another was a couple of Lomeli brothers or cousins shooting at women washing their clothes at the river. They thought it was funny to use them as targets for shooting practice. I don't recall if the two incidents were related.
I also have a second cousin surnamed Perez that also has a ranch on that same road to Canadas.
R A Ricci

Thanks George Fulton and R A Ricci for your suggestions. I will look into Jalostotitlan and other nearby parishes, hopefully, I will be able to find some information. My wife's paternal grandfather's name was Luis Garcia Perez. He lived in a town in the border with Michoacan called La Ribera, Jalisco. I don't have info on his parents, but several members of my wife's family swear there is a blood relationship between Luis and the Perez from Cañadas. I'm trying to verify or correct this family story. I am aware that oftentimes, family stories may be a little bit exaggerated, but even with those exaggerations, they often have a real origin and many of them are not that far from the truth.

Hello, I am also looking for my grandfather Marcelino Jimenez and I believe I found his sister,s 1930 MX Census in Obregon Jalisco and then again in Valle de Guadalupe Jalisco (?) for the exact same date. I know his father's name was Genaro Jimenez and his mother's was Ygnacia Gallo. My grandfather was born in June 1900-1902 according to his 1940 US Census and death records. I applied for his 1936 SS app but as always, only MEXICO is stated. I found his newspaper archives obituary from Dallas and that is how U found he had a sister named Manuela Jimenez married to Refugio Gamez in Obregon and another sister Inez. Brothers were Jesus, Jose and Ramauldo Jimenez. I searched in so many surrounding areas, but still cannot find my grandfather's birth records. Any suggestions? I believe I found Ygnacia's (my great grandmother's death records in 1911 Yahualica Jalisco).

A branch of Jiménez that ended up in el Valle de Guadalupe is actually from a Jimenez family that spread out from Jalostotitlan and sprouted branches that went to San Miguel el Alto and from there branched out to Valle de Guadalupe, Canadas de Obregon, and. Ameca.
Valle de Guadalupe and Canadas are very close to each other. I have cousins that are surnamed Barba and others surnamed Perez that have ranches between the two towns.
A branch of the Jimenez left San Miguel el Alto and went to Ameca Jalisco which is not close Canadas. Ameca is not in Los altos de Jalisco and is on the other side of Guadalajara but they are the same family.
The Perez-Gallo family in Canadas was originally from Jalostotitlan and they drifted to Canadas with my cousins grandfather settling in el Valle de Guadlupe. The Perez Gallo , Alvarez tostado and Gomez de Mendoza intermarried repeatedly I the 1800's and some of their records are found in Jalostotitlan. I descend from these families.

I found a document that verifies that the "Manuela Jimenez Gamez" 1930 census in Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco I found is definitely my grandfather's sister. I found Manuela's son's crossover papers that list his mother's name as " Manuela Jimenez-Gallo" and father "Refugio Gamez" which matches the census record. I might have found her other sister "Ines Jimenez" married to Candelario Lomeli, also in Valle de Guadalupe's census. I have not found an actually tie to this census document, but I know from my grandfather's obituary showed he had a sister named Ines. Now I need to search for a link of Ines to Marcelino (my grandfather) and/or their parents Ygnacia Gallo & Genaro Jimenez. The search goes on.....

I found my grandfather's birth records in Canadas de Obregon civil records. His line is: Marcelino > Genaro > Marcelino > Nicolas > Mariano Ximenes. Mariano's children were born in Mexticacan and Los Lagos in the late 1700's, but grandparents are not listed. Does anyone have any information about this Jalisco Ximenes family? The Gallo line is Ignacia > Lorenzo > Anastacio > Jose Sostenes; all in Canadas.

This Gallo family from Canadas is also part of my family tree. The surname was originally Perez -Gallo. Now that you have gone that far back you should look for Perez -Gallo and not just Gallo. They intermarried often with the Gomez Hurtado de Mendosa, Alvarez Tostado, and fernandez de Rueda.
I descend from Jose Onofre Perez-Gallo who married at least three times in the mid 1700's and left many descendants in Jalostotitlan, Canadas de Obregon, and Valle de Guadalupe.
Sometimes he was known as Onofre Jose Perez-Gallo
The Jimenez family that you are talking about May be the Jimenez de Castro family from this area.
Is your Sostenes Gallo the husband of Thomasa Perez who had a son christened in Jalostotitlan on 22/Aug/1819 by the name of Jose Anastacio Perez-Gallo?
R A Ricci

Yes, my Sostenes was married to Tomasa. His son Anastacio is my great great great grandfather. I found a marriage record for Anastacio's son Miguel Gallo {Lorenzo's brother} in Canada's civil marriage records listing parents as Anastacio Gallo and Tiburcia Alvares which matches Lorenzo's death record, but Sostenes wife is listed as Tomasa "Ruis", so this was trowing me off from all the other records coming up with his wife as Tomasa "Perez". Thank you for this valuable information.

Tomasa Perez was also known as Tomasa Ruiz because she also descended from the Esparza which was originally Ruiz de Esparza.

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