Cinnamon 1.3.1 released

I’d like to thank all the people who contributed feedback on our 1.3 release.

Version 1.3.1 is a maintenance release which adds polish and tackles important issues from the previous release.

It's now easier to drag and drop applets: Panel zones highlight in different colors when dragged over and now use the entire width of the panel

Here are the issues and improvements featured in Cinnamon 1.3.1:

Easier applet drag n’ drop:

Panel zones now cover the entire panel: In Cinnamon 1.3 they only used the space they needed, leaving empty zones in the panel which didn’t react to drag n’ drop.

Panel zones are now highlighted on drag-over: In Cinnamon 1.3, you couldn’t see where the zones were, so dragging an applet was precarious as you couldn’t tell whether you were dropping it in the right or center zone (for instance). Since version 1.3.1, they now appear in color. This works with the default theme, and this post contains instructions for artists to update their theme to add this feature.

Cinnamon settings:

New “restore to default” button in the applet section

Text scaling factor now uses a spin button instead of a scale widget

Slightly improved layout

Default theme improvements:

Slightly better looking panel launchers

Smoother notifications

Other fixes:

Fixed battery/power applet

Many unnecessary warnings were removed from the logs

Typos were corrected in the systray applet

A bug was fixed which made some icons to appear too big in the system tray

Impacts on applets and extensions:

No impacts on applets

All extensions need to update the version to “1.3.1″ in their metadata.js file

Impacts on themes:

Themes will work in Cinnamon 1.3.1 without any changes, but won’t feature panel zones highlighting without the changes below. We strongly recommend theme artists update their themes to either highlight, or color the panel zones on drag-over, as explained below.

Panels are made of three zones:

left

center

right

These zones contain applets, and the layout of the panel depends on which applets are in which zone. Since these zones are not visible to the user, it is important to highlight their boundaries or to make them visible to users when an applet is being dragged over.

In the default theme, we decided to do this by giving each zone a separate color. So when the user drags over an applet, we colorize our zones in red, green and blue.

Cinnamon 1.3.1 defines a pseudo-class “dnd” (which stands for Drag N Drop) for this. So in our theme, this is how we did it; We added the following in our CSS:

Talking about multimonitor setups.
On my Laptop Cinnamon always crashes whenever I plug an additional monitor.
The whole desktop is empty, no panels, no hotkeys, nothing.
The same happens when monitor is already plugged while desktop loads, it leads to nirvana.

I hoped this bug would have disappeared with 1.3, but it still happens.

Tell me what log you’ll need to trace down the origin of this bug, as I want to get this fixed as soon as possible, I love Cinnamon and it hurts to have to switch back to Gnome 3 just for this issue.

This happens to me whenever I go the configure “display settings” and I place my laptop screen (the screen with the task bars) to the right of my external monitor. If I revert this setting it doesn’t crash, however I really want the screen/desktop with the task bars to be my external monitor, not my laptop screen.

sudo apt-get install cinnamon=1.3.1
Reading package lists… Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information… Done
E: Version ‘1.3.1’ for ‘cinnamon’ was not found

Edit by Clem: It depends on your distribution. It was just released upstream here. As for Linux Mint, it’s likely to make its way to Romeo in the hours to come and probably to the stable repositories tomorrow. It’s also available as deb packages on the github page: https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/downloads

Desktop with icons comes up. No panels. Any running apps have no chrome on the windows. No keyboard shortcuts. I had put a shortcut to cinnamon on the desktop so I could double click it restart cinnamon, but I’d rather just have it not crash.

Thinkbook T520 Mint 12 64bit, Nvidia graphics.

Edit by Clem: This issue doesn’t occur here. Can you provide the output of “cinnamon –replace” when this problem happens?

I’ve somehow managed to fix my Cinnamon 1.3.1 installation. I thought something on the panels or something related to graphics drivers might be conflicting with it.

Uninstalled Cinnamon 1.2 and installed 1.3.1 from synaptic.

I then went to the applets section of Cinnamon Settings and set everything back to default.

I then went to startup applications and removed everything that didn’t seem to be part of basic Mint 12: NVidia X Server Settings, System Load Indicator, Conky, DropBox. (Dropbox and system load indicator both had applets in the system tray, the others I just thought could possibly effect Cinnamon).

Rebooted, logged into Cinnamon. Lock, unlock multiple times. Fixed! I then went back and one by one re-enabled all the stuff in startup that I had disabled. Still fixed for some reason. Perhaps it was just the reset of applets?

I followed Keith’s suggestion and uninstalled/reinstalled Cinnamon 1.3.1 and restored my applets to the default. However, I didn’t remove any apps from my startup. The only non-default app is Nvidia settings which I decided to keep enabled.

I restarted and was able to lock and unlock my screen multiple times without any issues. I then added back my applets (Places, Trash and Recent Documents) using the Cinnamon Settings applets check boxes. I tried locking and unlocking multiple times and success! No more crashes!

I’m wondering if the pre-1.3 installs of one or more of these applets might have caused the issue. Currently ~/.local/share/cinnamon/applets is empty. It was previously filled with the 3 decompressed applet files mentioned above. At any rate, all is working fine.

Still seeing a lot of instability with this. As soon as I start moving applets around, either manually or with dconf, there’s a 50/50 chance that it’ll start crashing again on lock/unlock, requiring a reset to default applets, which fixes it. I haven’t narrowed down exactly which changes cause it. I’m not adding any new, 3rd party applets, just the standard included ones.

I have 1.3.1 installed and working fin in Mint12. I can’t see any way to edit the main menu, I want to add a folder or 2. Am I missing it or is that functionality not yet there? Otherwise I am really loving the new build.

Install “Alacarte” via Synaptic. Once installed you’ll find it in the menu as “Main menu”. Same as the old Gnome 2 “Main menu” app. One word of warning though…the “catagories” listed in the menu editor do not entirely match the current Menu in Cinnamon nor does adding/removing categories Menu folders) work 100%. It’s workable but not fully compatible with the Cinnamon menu. On that note though, I use it myself.

I second this motion. Would love to have the Main Menu itself much more customizable, especially via right-click on empty background space within the menu. Opacity/transparency, add a new app/folder, etc.

Installed 1.3.1 and ran through A LOT of tweaking, but other than the pesky “Me…” for the Menu, everything looks and runs great. Cinnamon is getting better all the time, and your rapid updates are definitely encouraging even more user loyalty.

For anyone else, if you couldn’t get your Cinnamon v1.2 extensions to work, you need to edit (via “root” access) the metadata.json files, adding “1.3.1″ to the “version” line. As for the Weather extension, I had to change the “position-in-panel” from center to right.

Hi Gwendal,
it may be offtopic but can you tell me when this bug may be resolved:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/889706
(I saw that it’s assigned to you, however I’m not very used with how that works I just saw your name there. )

One of the latest posts there suggest that it may be the hardware acceleration. Maybe I can test if the bugs resolves with deactivating it. Any howto how that’s done the best way (ATI/AMD graphics).

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Failed to set the markup of the actor ‘ClutterText’: Error on line 1: Entity did not end with a semicolon; most likely you used an ampersand character without intending to start an entity – escape ampersand as &

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘CinnamonGenericContainer’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘StScrollView’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘CinnamonGenericContainer’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘StScrollView’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘CinnamonGenericContainer’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘StScrollView’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘CinnamonGenericContainer’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘StScrollView’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘CinnamonGenericContainer’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘StScrollView’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘CinnamonGenericContainer’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘StScrollView’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘CinnamonGenericContainer’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘StScrollView’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘CinnamonGenericContainer’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘StScrollView’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘CinnamonGenericContainer’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘StScrollView’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘CinnamonGenericContainer’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘StScrollView’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘CinnamonGenericContainer’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘StScrollView’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘CinnamonGenericContainer’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘StScrollView’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘CinnamonGenericContainer’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘StScrollView’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘CinnamonGenericContainer’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘StScrollView’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘CinnamonGenericContainer’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘StScrollView’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘CinnamonGenericContainer’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘StScrollView’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘CinnamonGenericContainer’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘StScrollView’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘CinnamonGenericContainer’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘StScrollView’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘CinnamonGenericContainer’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘StScrollView’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘CinnamonGenericContainer’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘StScrollView’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘CinnamonGenericContainer’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘StScrollView’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

(cinnamon:3179): Clutter-WARNING **: Attempting to add actor of type ‘CinnamonGenericContainer’ to a container of type ‘StBoxLayout’, but the actor has already a parent of type ‘StBoxLayout’.

I’m looking forward to trying this release. I don’t like the diretion that Ubuntu has taken their desktop. It’s just not working for me. The Cinnamon Ubuntu PPA is on hold until the maintaner has a chance to to settle from a move. If anyone has another PPA that they would like to share, please post. This project might be the one that finally makes me make a jump to Mint. I don’t jump very often. I started with Slackware in 95 followed by Debian and then Ubuntu. Mint might be next. Well done.

I’m not sure if my problem is related to Jordan’s but in cinnamon 1.3 my screen would go black after 10 mins of inactivity which is what my setting is but when I tried to bring it back up I had no panel and would use ctrl alt backspace to log out. Now in 1.3.1, my screen does not go off at all. Thanks for your help Clem

One little thing which is a pain: the window list applet can’t be moved and adding/removing applets is cause all sort of ordering problems. Perhaps in the future, some sort of mode like xfce would be added (but a little simpler).

Hello Clem and the Cinnamon Team, nice work for this new released, I am on Ubuntu 11.10 with a netbook and I have noticed some issues :
1. I use “Auto-hide panel” and since the 1.3 I have a toolbar on under the top panel, I think it’s the one use by Unity but I never had it with Cinnamon 1.1 and 1.2, but when I came back to the 1.2, the toolbar is still here, so it is maybe an issue with one of the muffin stuffs. (http://uppix.net/a/8/7/063a8fcbf419df4e0a48ff1978724.png)
2. You have fix the size of the applications menu for I quote “not having it to long”, but in the 1.2 the size was fitting well for netbooks, now it’s a bit too long, even with panels hide (http://uppix.net/0/a/c/83b5e0230f9652989ecbbb1b152b1.png)
3. Now you must click on every applets you want to open, if you have click on the wrong one, in the 1.2 and in Unity you just slide on the right one. And some applets like sound, bluetooth and XRandR haven’t enough space between them and the others.

Updated to 1.3.1 but one problem is that if I use the 2 panel setup (classic) and click on the set to default position in the applet configuration section then all applets end up on the top panel. It would be better to put the window list and workspace switcher left and right in the bottom panel….

Dear Clem thanks for your answer in the 1.3.0 comments concerning the icon located in the applet’s directory. I have another question though. Is there any way cinnamon can support a python script engine? What I mean is writing extensions and applets in Python than JS. How can I help? Are there any guidelines for achieving this in the near future?
Thanks,
Chris.

Edit by Clem: The weather applet is written in Javascript but its config tool is written in Python. That’s a good example right there. You can do some of the processing in an external python script or a program written in another language and only use the applet to control it and show the results. To communicate between the two you can use dbus, gsettings, gconf, files, JSON…etc.. there’s many ways. If you do a lot of processing it’s also a good idea to externalize it in another script, this way it’s got its own process and it doesn’t slow down Cinnamon.

Hi. I have to report another small problem. The tooltip/menu from the applications in the systray applet/panel has to be front of the panel and not behind it. If the application has a configuration menu you won’t be able to select the bottom items.
Thanks.

Everthing worked in former version. After the new one 1.3.1 all my applets have moved toward the menu ??
Tried to move them back, not working. Manged to remove them with cinnomon setting. Also mintupdate is now at the left side ???
How to move them back. Running Lisa x64

Hello Clem and the Cinnamon Team,
very good work done, I love cinnamon much much much more than Unity or Gnome 3!
Here’s one small problem with the traditional panel at the bottom.
If I activate the applet workspace-switcher, it is added in the center zone of the panel. Now I can not move this applet to an other zone, because if I click on it, the workspace is activated. So this applet can never be moved to an other zone. If I change the zone of the applet in the gconf-editor to the right, it works fine.

I might have missed it but is there a support in Cinnamon for 2 monitors?

I have a Nvidia card the “Nvidia-recent-updated” drivers under Mint 12 and one monitor on Dsub other other on DVI.

under Gnome and MATE I have the 2 monitors with separate x session configured and no issues.

Installing Cinnamon and restarting and login to Cinnamon leads me to have the desktop only but no bars no nothing.

Configuring NVidia setting for only one screen and restarting into cinnamon works fine but I have only one screen. Trying to go in Cinannom back to nvidia-setting to turn the second screen doesn’t show me the second screen for selection at all.
If I tamper around in the settings to turn the second screen on and apply I get a second blank white screen.

I’m going to try tonight on a atom netbook with an separate screen to see if it blends there.

Hello, now its working. After some shifting things around, I found out how things work.
1 If you hav an “old” cinnamon theme (no support for 1.3.1) then you do not see any Panel zones. Cant move icons around.
2. So when I went back to Cinnamon orginal theme, panel zones works fine.

A bit hard to move though, and moves back to the left if you add a new applet.

Mint is back, now I am looking forward to Mint 13.
And so are several of my linux-buddies

Regarding your Alt+F2 issue: Try going to the Mint menu > System Tools > System Settings, click on ‘Keyboard’ > 2nd tab (Shortcuts); choose System in the left pane. On the right pane, there should be an entry called ‘Show the run command prompt’ – I guess its disabled on your system? if so, just click and change it to Alt+F2.

and what do you do when it persistently stays disabled? Mine is like this. I can’t find how to change it. (Note I can read, and did as instructed: hit alt-f2 while the line was highlighted.) I can’t change ANY of the keyboard shortcuts ATM.

to answer myself, if the Keyboard Shortcuts can’t be modified through the Systems Settings dialogs (and mine can’t, for some reason). You can alter them in gconf-editor (not dconf-editor) in apps/metacity/global_keybindings. What Systems Settings calls “Show the run command prompt” is “Panel Run Dialog”, and “Show the activities menu” is “Panel Main Menu”. Daft but true. Why can’t we all speak the same damn language already! Or at least use the same labels for the same thing. Why is Metacity involved anyway?

I’ve found a couple small problems though…if I’m running jupiter, the right click menu appears behind the top panel. (This happened in original Gnome 3 as well.) I’ve heard that parcellite does the same thing. Also when I hover the mouse over jupiter OR the mint update shield, the background is green behind both (I’m using the minty theme, so hovering turns the backgrounds green)

Does anyone else have this issue since 1.3.0 (not fixed by 1.3.1): rearranging the quick launch icons on the panel seems to move the entire set of them about 2 inches to the right, away from the menu button? It then stays there leaving an odd space between the menu button the icons… not sure of how to fix it.

there seems to be a lot of bugs going on with the panel launchers. for example if i rightclick one panel launcher and choose ‘remove’ its the entry to the left of the one i clicked that gets removed, also dragging launchers around seems to result in duplicate entries and other entries mysteriously disappearing

A third bug found. After logging in with 1.3.1 I noted that many of my panel icons were moved from the right to the left. When I moved the first one back, all of those who were still on the right became white rectangles.

I really like Cinnamon and this update. It is true that applets can easier be dragged an dropped, but what about the cinnamon window list? I would like to put the window list on the lower panel but couldnt find a solution….

Start dconf editor (or install it first), then go org -> Cinnamon, select “Enable Applets”, search for ‘panel1:center:0:window-list@cinnamon.org’ (or something like that) and change panel1 to panel2. It should now be on the bottom panel.

Extensions have to be updated with every cinnamon update. Do you have the newest updates for them?
There’s now a applet for weather so you can use that instead as it’s indepentend from cinnamon updates (for now).
If there’s no new update you can update them yourself by editing the metadata.json (just update the cinnamon version in there and restart cinnamon).

Just one quick question for Clem: Is there still a possibility that future versions of Cinnamon will be made so that it can work with other window managers?

As it stands, it’s still unstable with my ATI card and the proprietary drivers (and I’m not going to go without those). I had heard that the Gnome 3 instabilities were problems between the proprietary drivers and Mutter (in Cinnamon’s case, Muffin). It also seems to still crash randomly with VirtualBox and its guest additions driver. In both cases, it appears to be a crash of the WM, as in addition to the Cinnamon GUI, all window decorations disappear while the Nautilus desktop and borderless windows stay on screen.

Personally, I vote for allowing Cinnamon to use Compiz, as I am just very fond of that project.

If not, are ATI proprietary users just going to have to use MATE (which is great, too – I LOVE Gnome 2), Unity, or Gnome fallback? At least until the compatibility problems are worked out?

Thanks again, Clem! Excellent work!

Edit by Clem: I’m all in favor of it, but I won’t be working on this myself. Unless someone comes with a solution for it that we can integrate it’s unlikely to happen. As for ATI, I acquired two boxes with these chipsets and they’re stable under Cinnamon running the latest Catalyst 12.1 drivers.

I agree
I have ATI propietary drivers – open source ones are not as good -
I am using Mate
I have installed cinnamon but it fails, as gnome does.

There must be a TRICK at the config to make ATI cards run
Mutter/Muffin and ATI are working on it, but there must be any solution with this as switch to Compiz, Kwin or any other making it work.

Intel GPUs are the first in market share 60% but is still a bad GPU, ATI is the second one 25% in market share and Nvidia 3rd, 15%

Inside the 40% of bets GPUs, 62.5% vs 37.5%

IT MUST BE A PRIORITY to make ATI cards work – in any way – with Cinnamon.

Edit by Clem: I’ve got two ATI boxes here running Cinnamon. You need to install the latest Catalyst drivers 12.1 from the ATI website. These work well. Also, in Debian Testing, the nouveau drivers work with Cinnamon on ATI chipsets without the ATI drivers. Of course the performance isn’t as nice..

Hey guys, thanks again for a great usable desktop! I am however having two issues since 1.3.1:
1) My Weather display is no longer in the system tray like it used to be. I have the entension for the weather app installed under extensions but no dice.
2) I don’t like the new battery icon. It doesn’t display whether the power in connected to AC or on battery. And the icon is ugly. How can I get my old icon back?

I’ve just now tested Cinnamon and it’s amazing! keep it up!
By the way, is there any plans of integrating Cinnamon’s setting with Gnome’s settings? so that to have one interface to configure everything!
And what about fallback mode? if you happen to end up in fallback mode you get a completely different experience, is there any plans of fixing that?

Start dconf editor (or install it first), then go org -> Cinnamon, select “Enable Applets”, search for ‘panel1:center:0:window-list@cinnamon.org’ (or something like that) and change panel1 to panel2. It should now be on the bottom panel.

Very nice work, Clem. My weather applet works after changing to 1.3.1
but does not go to the right side of panel next to volume and network icons. It is displayed immediately after window list. If I open more windows it is pushed to the right. Close all the windows and it has moved back over towards the ‘main menu’ button. Otherwise, works great!

Problems and suggestions:
- Nautilus: F2 to rename a file is not working
- Desktop: mintUpdate (next to the clock) icon is just a gray “thing”
- Desktop: Icons in the quick starter area are not highlighted enough

Thanks for a great work. But now I am having some problems.
-Some applets such as System Tray, Panel launcher, Windows List, and Workspace Switcher are very hard or impossible to move.
-Some applets at the right wing of the panel are very close to each other and look not very beautiful.
-The word “Menu” on the menu applet turns to be “Me…” when threr aren’t any windows open or in the overview mode. (Not sure whether it is because I am using the wide screen notebook or not.)

Same here.
Moreover:
– there is no easy way (no drag and drop) to move windows to other workspaces
– there is a strange behavior in this case: I have let’s say xchat on workspace 1 and other apps on 2 and 3; when I reduce xchat to systray the desktop1 disappears, when I resume xchat ws1 comes again with a strange effect on the workspace bar…
– icons on the “preferred application” list cannot be reordered

Anyway thanks for the nice work! (I’m still preferring Gnome Shell with the extensions for now)

I cannot activate any applets. I downloaded and uncompressed and copy-pasted into specified directory, but when I open the Gui Cinimon settings the applets section is totally blank and only a close button is visible. Anyone please help me. Thanks in advance
-Ullas

The same thing with my ported G3 extensions. They are activated and visible on the panel but option ‘Extensions’ in Cinnamon Settings is not working at all (only ‘Close’ button visible).
Any ideas?
Anyway, CINNAMON RULES!

I had a similar problem when I did my own applet. It probably had to do with the icon it should show but couldn’t. Try removing all applets/extension that aren’t there by default and add them 1 by 1 until it happens again to know what applet/extension is causing this. (Of course only if this solved the problwm in first place.)

Love the look and feel (default theme on .3.1). Also, it works just fine on my two monitor (laptop+external monitor) config. However, I get pretty frequent complete lockups on the desktop where I have to go another (command line) session and kill -9 the cinnamon process. Then cinnamon gets restarted and everything is good — until the next time. Using fedora 16 plus preview-level fixes….

I made a install a cd 64bit and installed cinnamon 1.3.1. Then i had to change lightdm.conf. Change gnome-shell to cinnamon.? What about memory use, i can see that it use about 100 mb. Will it be less when linuxmint 13 comeś out.

But i found that the wifi and volumn icons are become smaller than the bluetooth icon.. And there is an issue when i perform right click on the screen, when the right click menu show at the bottom of the screen, the panel will block the bottom part of the right click menu. Same goes when i change the panel to top too. I face this issue since version 1.0. Any workaround on this?

Great update and thanks much. I’m finally seeing an upgrade path from Mint 10 that I can live with. One of the things missing from Cinnamon (and Gnome3 in general) is a Compiz-like Enhanced Desktop Zoom that uses the mousewheel. Tobias Quinn has written a small app that provides that functionality and has now also made it compatible with Cinnamon. Would it be possible to integrate it into Cinnamon as an option for visually impaired users? I conversed with Tobias via email and he’s willing to talk to your team if you are so inclined. Thanks again for your great work.

Dear Clem, i would like to know if it is possible to:
- Move applets smoothly (like in WIndows 7)
- Bundle similar applets like the battery, updates, volume,wifi and time applet
- Add additional options when you right click a window list; open a new window, open a new tab, history)
- organize icons by type, name,date, size etc
- Install packages from the mint menu

Thank You! I am looking forward to the 1.3.x release and eventually the 1.4 release

Hey Clem! So I have one quick question…Will there ever be an option to make the panels larger? I just set up a friends computer with Mint + Cinnamon and he would like the clock to be displayed with the time on top and the date beneath it (the way Windows 7 has it.) Are there any plans for allowing something like that?

Hey Clem! So I have one quick question…Will there ever be an option to make the panels larger? I just set up a friends computer with Mint + Cinnamon and he would like the clock to be displayed with the time on top and the date beneath it (the way Windows 7 has it.) Are there any plans for allowing something like that?

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I agree. There needs to be an option for this. I have very bad eyes and the tiny font is very painful.

Hi, Clem!
I really appreciate your work withe Cinnamon developing.
When i upgrade from 1.3 to 1.3.1 my keyboard shortcuts suddenly dessapeared, but i manage to set them again.
I want to ask – is there any way to set skype windows not to pop-up when message arrive, but to lands at task-bar, because that leads to many strange situations

Thanks a lot for your effort to bring to us a fine desktop
p.s. I apologise if there is any typo, because i’m from Bulgaria and English is not my mothers tongue.

Hi, Clem!
I like the cinnamon shell, but I hate just one thing: the start menu is so huge for my 1024×768 resolution. It occupies half of my screen and don’t want that anymore.
I suggest you to put the search bar at the bottom, also you may lower the favorite bar. Then, you may set a maximum of 10 application category with scroll-bar. Eliminate the applications’ description from the bottom right and create a mouseover tooltip for each app.

Or… if you are not a Windows hater, recreate the Windows 7 start menu for Cinnamon. Thank you!

Hi Clem,
In Cinnamon 1.3 moving the applets on the panels works better than in 1.2.
However, there are some problems that need to be fixed:

- Switching between one panel (Traditional) and two panels (Classic):
All the applets go to the upper panel. In my opinion it would be better with an Ubuntu-like approach in Classic with Show the desktop and Window list applets by default on the bottom panel.

- Switching from two panels back to one panel:
The applets on the bottom panel disappear, To get them back you have to uhcheck them, restart Cinnamon and then check them again in Cinnamon Settings.

- Some applets cannot be moved with Drag and drop:
Window List and Panel Launcher applets cannot be moved because there is no “handle” to grip them with.
The system tray can be moved but the icons go blank until restart.

- The window list still does not work properly when in the center (green) zone. The buttons do not resize to save space, instead the left zone is pushed out of the screen if there are too many windows open.
When the window list is in the left (red) zone, the buttons are resized.
It seems that all applets by default are added to the center zone.

- In Classic, after having moved the window list to the bottom panel (with Dconf) with window list in the center zone and no applets in the right (blue) zone:
If the green zone is “full” (too many windows open) and you try to move an applet on any of the panels – both panels, icons and window decorations disappear and Cinnamon does not respond to any keystrokes.

- The same symptoms as above when you lock the screen with the lock button on the menu. Reported by others.
When the screen is locked in screensaver mode this does not happen.

I have 1.3.1 and cinnamon still has a memory leak
It’s memory usage goes up over two or three days until I get to much into swap space and I have to restart cinnamon.

Edit by Clem: We’ve introduced memory leak fixes in the latest code, as well as new features with their own potential memory leaks So it might get better, it might get worse for the 1.4 release, but it’s something we look into and try to address. If you notice particular events which are responsible for the memory leaks, please let us know so we can inspect the code more in detail.

Are there any plans for the future releases to add to the window list applet features like progress bar (like nautilus and chrome), counter (like thunderbird mails), and blinking (how does it call that?), like when you receive a message from your chat client?

First of all, awesome work! I’m loving it and it has already become my main desktop environment and if improvements are as proficient as they have been since the birth of the project, I may as well never look back!

I am having a small issue, though. I’ve installed Ubuntu1 and have NOT added it to the startup applications, and yet, every time a session starts I get the annoying dialogue asking me to unlock the keyring. Looking at the output of ps -e, I can see that the ubuntuone-launch (or something along those lines) gets activated for few seconds and then it goes away leaving behind just the ubuntuone-syncd –as it happens in the gnome3 environment and in any previous gnome2.x environments I’ve used– yet in Cinnamon, the keyring prompt pops up blocking the computer until you do something about it, and this doesn’t happen in any of the other environments I use.

It’s certainly an unimportant thing, I can just ESC the dialogue and I’m fine, but I just thought I’d let you know of this little buggish behaviour because it may get some people annoyed.

I’m sorry if I wasn’t supposed to post it here but couldn’t find where to file bug reports…

Now you just need to make Cinnamon for android to compete with Ubuntu for android. I just hate ubuntu. Its theme has always been ugly. It has done some good to the Linux desktop but its time is up. It is time for Mint to be #1

A taskbar, a menu that shows all the programs quick, little apps in the bars like the CPU meter. All that was gone.
But now your grand effort is beginning to bring back a little common sense. Soon everyone will be using Cinnamon.
Many, many, many thanks.

I have Ubuntu Precise installed, and have both gnome shell and unity. I am willing to try out Cinnamon since I do not like gnome shell or unity. However, I do not get to see the panels in Cinnamon after I log in. I faced this problem with version 1.2 also. I am currently trying out version 1.3.1.

I have a Dell XPS with NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M graphics. Please suggest how could I possibly get Cinnamon working.

The work with Cinnamon is quite good, but it still needs the ability to be able to adjust panel size, font size, default fonts…all by right-clicking like with gnome 2 and to be able to set opacity of the panel…if you truly want this to be a good product, then you need to listen to input. Also needs better program compatibility with other program integration from debian repositories.

I installed Cinnamon on Ubuntu 11.10 by adding the ppa.launchpad.net/gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable/ubuntu

Installation finishes without any errors and I see the Cinnamon session option in the log in screen, but when I do log in I get a Gnome classic session. I do get the Cinnamon settings app in the menu, but it is useless without Cinnamon actually running.

Great work. I am one of those considering a switch from Ubuntu to Mint (though I haven’t yet made a final decision) and am testing Cinnamon on my Ubuntu 11.10 box. I suppose that my main aim is a development system that is reasonably up-to-date while still being easy to use, and above all as reliable as possible – I have other things to do than work around unstable software, and Unity fails for me particularly on that count.

My question: what would it need, in theory, for Mint to switch back to the now “traditional” GNOME Shell variant? I see for instance that the developers are discussing using window manager properties to tell the WM whether it makes sense or not to group all windows of a given application into a single entry (and to tell the truth, often it does make sense so that you don’t have to hunt through thirty task bar entries to find the window you want). I suppose my main concern is that you don’t have anything like the developer power behind Cinnamon that GNOME Shell does, and that you will have a hard time keeping it as stable. I always like seeing people work together rather than against each other for the best possible result!

Hi
I’d like to say that Cinnamon is just awesome- classical desktop that is based on modern technology. This is something that I have really been missing for last year or so.
Also, while testing it, I noticed some things that in my opinion would make it even better:

1) Ability to set timeout for hiding and unhiding the panels:
if I choose to automatically hide the top panel and try to close an maximized window, then if I accidentally move the cursor too far, the panel unhides and covers window’s close button. An ability to set an optional delay for unhiding would resolve this problem.

2) Better multi-monitor support:
Ability no specify default monitor. For example, if I set the external monitor as default monitor, normally the panels would be on my laptop’s internal screen, but when I put my laptop into the docking station, panels would automatically move to the external monitor.

3) Some way of specifying mouse shortcuts like in Compiz:
For example, I have a mouse with 10 buttons (including the wheel). In Compiz I can set button 10 to the Scale effect (Compiz’s version of Cinnamon’s Overview).

Cinnamon is a great work, there are many things that may improve and I am shure they will improve. But I am currenly frustrated because it only work in one of my machines (with an nVidia card). The trouble seems to be due to the current ATI drives, the phoney thing is that Linux Mint 12 with Mate has no troubles and Ubuntu 11.10 with Unity also work.

But the fonts and icons of the Cinnamon menu appear garbled. The situation improves with the “current upgrades” for the ATI drives from the Ubuntu data bases, but then the system becomes awfully unstable.

Downloading a “current” drive installer from the ATI site only produces a system without gsl.

One of the troublesome machine is my home desktop the other one is my wife’s office machine, both HP All in One machines.

Many thanks for your works and any advise that could help to use it in my ATI card machines

The workspace switcher and window switcher applets don’t seem to be movable between panels when I have top and bottom ones in place. With this sorted, Cinnamon would be ideal although restoring GNOME 2 functionality would make it even better.

Sorry, I know this isn’t really a place for bug reports … but I’m just jumping the bandwagon since these are my first impressions, and since others have done it and I’m about to go to bed :p
Just installed cinnamon and noticed something annoying; the default applet configuration is ok, but if you try to delete the ‘view desktop’ and ‘panel launcher’ applets to make it cleaner on a small netbook with limited real-estate … then the space available for the Menu applet (icon+text) gets shortened, and the Menu text becomes “Me…” instead. I’ve tried repositioning things but it doesn’t seem to help, and there doesn’t seem to be an obvious way to increase the width of the left (red) zone. (maybe it’s possible via css, I don’t know). When you open a window and a tab appears on the panel, suddenly the text becomes visible, but as soon as you close that, the text becomes “Me…” again, instead of “Menu”. So now I’ve reverted to the default applet configuration even though I don’t really want the desktop and launcher applets on my panel, just so that the menu text doesn’t get cut off.
Thanks

Edit by Clem: Thanks. That’s a known issue since 1.4. We’ll have this fixed for sure in the next release.

I like cinnamon very much, but I find the scale mode just useless when you don’t have a mouse. It would have been great if I could switch one windows another with my keyboard in scale mode. I can’t believe they haven’t thought about it