Thank you very much.
I have to say that I am pleasantly surprised at the demeanor of most people on this forum. I appreciate not being treated like a moron just because I am ignorant of most things guns.

I wonder how many people will sell their rifles to Mexican drug cartels if this passes in California instead of registering it? If a cartel will pay $10,000 cash for a AR or AK, and California is basically making it impossible to own one, the biggest winners in all this will be criminals in another country. Diane Fienstien did not think (care?) about the unintended consequences of disarming her own citizens did she?

With the super-majority in both chambers in Sacramento, the democrats can just pass any gun laws they want and you're **cked. Any gun bans is bad news regardless at the national or state level, so we need to fight back.

As long as there is a super-majority in both chambers in Sacramento, you are never out of the woods.

I wouldn't be laughing if I were you as long as you're living in this state.

Agreed. And anything they pass is just a step toward the eventual goal of removing firearms from the hands of civilians. Feinstein has said as much.

If we all stand together and refuse to give up our guns and refuse to compromise on the issue, all they can do is put us in jail. They can't put us all in jail, we're the only one paying for the Obama supporters to live off these effing food stamps that these hood rats try to sell me every day at the grocery store.

It's time to stand up and take America back, and if that means a new American revolution then so be it. I say save my freedoms at all costs.

So an executive order is signed... wonder if California will do more like NY!

Yes probably if not worse. I'm already putting a plan together to be out of CA by 1/1/2014. I will not give up my pistol grip or full guns because someone has a power boner. And I can't stand the attitude of CA anymore. It's either hippie or poor me, give me money that I am entitled to. At least that's the attitude of a lot Sacramento residents or should I say parasites.

OP, the dynamic has changed.The days of DC passing gun bans in the cover of night are over, thanks to the Internet.

Yet....the other side of the coin is that gun rights has now become a state-level issue. On one side we have Wyoming, which has all but given the finger to DC's gun control statutes. On the other side we have New York State, which just passed the worst gun control laws since the Jim Crow era. There's no way DC can pass legislation to please both sides, and the White House cant afford to offend either party by taking sides.

So, the 2nd Amendment is now a state-by-state right. Much like slavery was a cultural institution of the South, gun control is a divided cultural issue. Gun owners in America today are like the black men in northern states in the 1800s, while weapon owners in California are like the slaves stuck on the plantations in Mississippi . Its a crude analogy but it fits the current zeitgeist too well. Much as my ancestors felt that moving north was a better alternative to life under the whip, some gun owners in CA and NY face a trip on their own "underground railroad" to a Constitutional state.

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The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
-Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.

GOP says no AW ban and since they're the only ones who can make it happen by voting on it in congress I'm still certain it won't happen. Now a ban on 11+ round mags I can't be as certain about and will likely happen as a compromise.

"(b) For purposes of this section, “fixed magazine” means an ammunition feeding device contained in, or permanently attached to, a firearm in such a manner that the device cannot be removed without disassembly of the firearm action."

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You should look into what people with RAWs have to go through and why many of them have BBed guns that they use and their RAWs are safe queens.

I have no problem shooting my RAWs I shoot them just as much as my BB guns. It's a non issue.

My big concern is that the 2000 ban prohibited the transfer or sale of a RAW. So I'm considering transferring my BB guns to my kids now and possibly pulling my RAW's and making them BB guns and transferring them also.

GOP says no AW ban and since they're the only ones who can make it happen by voting on it in congress I'm still certain it won't happen. Now a ban on 11+ round mags I can't be as certain about and will likely happen as a compromise.