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Pub bosses may face bill for painting panels

PUB bosses could be landed with a £10,000 bill — for repainting the walls.

The owners of The Shakespeare Hotel in Farnworth may have to fork out thousands of pounds to remove paint from historic oak panels because of listed building rules.

Bravo Inns spent thousands of pounds on a refurbishment last June to brighten up the popular pub in Glynne Street.

The firm replaced carpets, the lighting system and seat covers as well as painting some wooden panels on the walls.

During the works, however, a customer attending a funeral reception at the pub complained to Bolton Council about the makeover.

Bolton Council immediately sent an enforcement officer to the pub and ordered workers to halt the refurbishment.

The pub is a grade II listed building, which limits the type of work that can be carried out. The pub’s licensee Peter Coates admitted the brewery did not seek the council’s permission for the work beforehand, though it has now done so retrospectively.

The bone of contention is whether the panels are made of oak and, therefore, were a fixture in the building when it was built in 1926.

Mr Coates said four or five of the panels are made from oak and the brewery is willing to remove the paint, restoring the panels back to how they were.

But he insists the remaining panels are not made of oak and therefore are not subject to rules about listed buildings.

He said: “The pub needed a refurbishment and it looks much better now.

People have said it looks really nice.

“In the six months since we’ve done the work, we’ve had hundreds if not thousands of customers and yet only one person has complained.

“It meant we had to stop the work with one room still to be finished.

“Hopefully, our argument will be good enough for the council, or else it will cost us a minimum of £10,000 to treat the wood with a special chemical and get the paint off.

“That would be a shame.”

The pub’s fine oak panelling has earned it a mention on the Campaign for Real Ale’s website.

It says: “The layout amazingly remains intact and the spaces are fitted out with woodwork of the highest quality, making it one of the finest remaining examples of an interwar suburban pub.”

A spokesman for English Heritage, which campaigns for the preservation of historic buildings, said: “Our normal advice if we are contacted in such cases is to refer the matter to the local planning authority, which has responsibility for deciding on whether or not listed building consent for changes is needed, and if so whether or not it should be allowed.

“We were very concerned to learn of the harmthat has been caused to the wood-panelled interior of the pub and are fully supportive of the action that Bolton Council is taking.”

The council is aiming to reach a decision by March 3.

A spokesman for Bravo Inns said: “There has been a mix up in procedure and a retrospective application will be heard in March. We will comply with what is required of us.”

Comments

oftbewildered2
10:57am Sat 12 Jan 13

ooooh - nasty error here. Oak panels eh? What would have been wrong with 'over-cladding them' and then painting if they don't like the real thing? Ignorance is no excuse - listed buildings are protected, even if they are just humble cottages.

ooooh - nasty error here. Oak panels eh? What would have been wrong with 'over-cladding them' and then painting if they don't like the real thing? Ignorance is no excuse - listed buildings are protected, even if they are just humble cottages.oftbewildered2

ooooh - nasty error here. Oak panels eh? What would have been wrong with 'over-cladding them' and then painting if they don't like the real thing? Ignorance is no excuse - listed buildings are protected, even if they are just humble cottages.

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Chris_A_C
11:49am Sat 12 Jan 13

Bravo Inns is not a brewery.

Bravo Inns is not a brewery.Chris_A_C

Bravo Inns is not a brewery.

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boltonnut
2:54pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Why would Bolton town council be so concerned about a little paint job in a ordinary run of the mill pub?They basicly organised the rape, pillage and destruction of Smithhills coaching house.This degradation is on a much larger scale than a little paint job.This is a perfect example of the way these clown are ruining Bolton.

Why would Bolton town council be so concerned about a little paint job in a ordinary run of the mill pub?They basicly organised the rape, pillage and destruction of Smithhills coaching house.This degradation is on a much larger scale than a little paint job.This is a perfect example of the way these clown are ruining Bolton.boltonnut

Why would Bolton town council be so concerned about a little paint job in a ordinary run of the mill pub?They basicly organised the rape, pillage and destruction of Smithhills coaching house.This degradation is on a much larger scale than a little paint job.This is a perfect example of the way these clown are ruining Bolton.

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Lancashire always
6:26pm Sat 12 Jan 13

£10.000 to repair the `damage `
Dont mind if i put a quote in do you 9k and i will return it to its former glory, PS the paint job makes it look like a posh tap room !

£10.000 to repair the `damage `
Dont mind if i put a quote in do you 9k and i will return it to its former glory, PS the paint job makes it look like a posh tap room !Lancashire always

£10.000 to repair the `damage `
Dont mind if i put a quote in do you 9k and i will return it to its former glory, PS the paint job makes it look like a posh tap room !

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tracy1000
6:52pm Sat 12 Jan 13

"popular pub" is this the same shakespear? there's only ever half a dozen in there if that

"popular pub" is this the same shakespear? there's only ever half a dozen in there if thattracy1000

"popular pub" is this the same shakespear? there's only ever half a dozen in there if that

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farnworth's mafia
8:16pm Sat 12 Jan 13

sad **** for complaining and bunch of wankas the council are...

sad **** for complaining and bunch of wankas the council are...farnworth's mafia

sad **** for complaining and bunch of wankas the council are...

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wild one
2:26am Sun 13 Jan 13

People have said it looks really nice.

“In the six months since we’ve done the work, we’ve had hundreds if not thousands of customers and yet only one person has complained.

you have to laugh...

thousands in six month....jeeeeeeeeee
eeeez....its a grot box

People have said it looks really nice.
“In the six months since we’ve done the work, we’ve had hundreds if not thousands of customers and yet only one person has complained.
you have to laugh...
thousands in six month....jeeeeeeeeee
eeeez....its a grot boxwild one

People have said it looks really nice.

“In the six months since we’ve done the work, we’ve had hundreds if not thousands of customers and yet only one person has complained.

you have to laugh...

thousands in six month....jeeeeeeeeee
eeeez....its a grot box

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oftbewildered2
10:31am Sun 13 Jan 13

boltonnut wrote…

Why would Bolton town council be so concerned about a little paint job in a ordinary run of the mill pub?They basicly organised the rape, pillage and destruction of Smithhills coaching house.This degradation is on a much larger scale than a little paint job.This is a perfect example of the way these clown are ruining Bolton.

The council are acting on behalf of English Heritage, which was responsible for making the pun a listed building. Once someone had complained they had no option but to act

[quote][p][bold]boltonnut[/bold] wrote:
Why would Bolton town council be so concerned about a little paint job in a ordinary run of the mill pub?They basicly organised the rape, pillage and destruction of Smithhills coaching house.This degradation is on a much larger scale than a little paint job.This is a perfect example of the way these clown are ruining Bolton.[/p][/quote]The council are acting on behalf of English Heritage, which was responsible for making the pun a listed building. Once someone had complained they had no option but to actoftbewildered2

boltonnut wrote…

Why would Bolton town council be so concerned about a little paint job in a ordinary run of the mill pub?They basicly organised the rape, pillage and destruction of Smithhills coaching house.This degradation is on a much larger scale than a little paint job.This is a perfect example of the way these clown are ruining Bolton.

The council are acting on behalf of English Heritage, which was responsible for making the pun a listed building. Once someone had complained they had no option but to act

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Boff
11:15am Sun 13 Jan 13

The fat controller fiddles whilst Bolton burns. Yet another laughable decision. This totally inept,incompetent bunch of chancers have the nerve to threaten a huge fine for wrongly painting some pieces of wood! The same bunch of chancers who deliberated over the decision to allow the partial destruction of a listed building, and the green light for executive housing on prime greenbelt land, words completely fail me!

The fat controller fiddles whilst Bolton burns. Yet another laughable decision. This totally inept,incompetent bunch of chancers have the nerve to threaten a huge fine for wrongly painting some pieces of wood! The same bunch of chancers who deliberated over the decision to allow the partial destruction of a listed building, and the green light for executive housing on prime greenbelt land, words completely fail me!Boff

The fat controller fiddles whilst Bolton burns. Yet another laughable decision. This totally inept,incompetent bunch of chancers have the nerve to threaten a huge fine for wrongly painting some pieces of wood! The same bunch of chancers who deliberated over the decision to allow the partial destruction of a listed building, and the green light for executive housing on prime greenbelt land, words completely fail me!

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boltonnut
2:48pm Sun 13 Jan 13

I'm obviously out of touch,I'm oft bewilderd too,I thank you for the insite.I'm well known for pontificating and oft times putting my foot in my BIG gob.Is it still okay to blame Morris for the paint fiasco?

I'm obviously out of touch,I'm oft bewilderd too,I thank you for the insite.I'm well known for pontificating and oft times putting my foot in my BIG gob.Is it still okay to blame Morris for the paint fiasco?boltonnut

I'm obviously out of touch,I'm oft bewilderd too,I thank you for the insite.I'm well known for pontificating and oft times putting my foot in my BIG gob.Is it still okay to blame Morris for the paint fiasco?

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Tim Burr
10:47pm Sun 13 Jan 13

30 years ago, our daughter announced she was pregnant to us in this pub. At that time, the landlord did wonderful home made food and she thought she would soften us up by taking us for lunch.The boyfriend (now her husband without the need for a shotgun), slid slowly down his seat against the panelling and hid under the table, Mother choked on a chip requiring a heimlich maneuver to free her airway.

It's good to know it's still there, the panelling that is. I might pop in to see if they ever did find the pea that Mother projected along with her chip.

30 years ago, our daughter announced she was pregnant to us in this pub. At that time, the landlord did wonderful home made food and she thought she would soften us up by taking us for lunch.The boyfriend (now her husband without the need for a shotgun), slid slowly down his seat against the panelling and hid under the table, Mother choked on a chip requiring a heimlich maneuver to free her airway.
It's good to know it's still there, the panelling that is. I might pop in to see if they ever did find the pea that Mother projected along with her chip.Tim Burr

30 years ago, our daughter announced she was pregnant to us in this pub. At that time, the landlord did wonderful home made food and she thought she would soften us up by taking us for lunch.The boyfriend (now her husband without the need for a shotgun), slid slowly down his seat against the panelling and hid under the table, Mother choked on a chip requiring a heimlich maneuver to free her airway.

It's good to know it's still there, the panelling that is. I might pop in to see if they ever did find the pea that Mother projected along with her chip.

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Wigan Trotter
8:42am Mon 14 Jan 13

'farnworth's mafia say's'

The name and comment says it all where today's education is concerned.

'farnworth's mafia say's'
The name and comment says it all where today's education is concerned.Wigan Trotter

'farnworth's mafia say's'

The name and comment says it all where today's education is concerned.

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