Re: New mathematic on english

Before you post anything else, could you explai, in simple words, what the main difference is between Calculus and Structural Analysis?

Yes! Structural Analysis, for example, analyzes all area of the Cartesian system of coordinates, and Calculus only part of this system - the line. And that it is wrong. Because on

function graphics, for example, the line is the function

It is not true that calculus analyses only the line!

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Re: New mathematic on english

Before you post anything else, could you explai, in simple words, what the main difference is between Calculus and Structural Analysis?

Yes! Structural Analysis, for example, analyzes all area of the Cartesian system of coordinates, and Calculus only part of this system - the line. And that it is wrong. Because on

function graphics, for example, the line is the function

It is not true that calculus analyses only the line!

I showed you a formula of the function represented in the form of the line on graphics of

. It is the function. I claim that using CALCULUS, you won't be able to show a formula of the function represented in the form of the line on graphics of the function. But using Syructural Analysis I will be able to show this formula!I approve it, because calculus - the theory not a general view, but special cases which are given mistakenly out for a general view. But Structural Analysis - the theory of a general view.You won't be able to answer such simple question using calculus!

"The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus"

Re: New mathematic on english

bobbym wrote:

A better question is why? I have heard of people wanting to dump set theory, I have heard of people who dislike topology. Even heard of people who hate infinity and hate continuous math in favor of transfinite numbers and discrete mathematics but I have never heard of anyone who has had a problem with calculus.

In order to even think about changing it you would have to find an occasion where it did not work. For me, that means you have to find an example where calculus gets the wrong answer. I mean a real live example!

Now you will answer the your question!On D.1 and D.2 two

functions with various structure are given. Using Calculus you need write for both cases!

"The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus"

Re: New mathematic on english

I'm not sure what you mean by that...

Can you post an example in which Structural Analysis does something Calculus can't?

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Re: New mathematic on english

Hi;Let's make so. I already spoke it. Let Structural Analysis will be addition to Calculus. I already understood that the concept Calculus - error it would close all doors before what Structural Analysis useful wasn't. NEVER mathematicians will allow anybody to doubt own correctness. Do you agree?

"The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus"

Re: New mathematic on english

Umm... they are.

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Re: New mathematic on english

You got it wrong.

The partial derivative is r*pi^2/3 and the total derivative is r*pi^2., so integrating w.r.t h will not give you what you started with. No errors or mistakes!

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Re: New mathematic on english

I'm sorry. Let me try again:

The partial derivative of the expression for volume of a cone is

and when you integrate it you get what you should-the volume of a cone.

What you saw in that article is the total derivative of the volume of a cone. That is a different thing and its integral isn't the volume of a cone, and it shouldn't be, because you aren't differentiating the volume only with respect to h in the first place.

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Re: New mathematic on english

Hi bobbym

I think the problem is that he saw that the total derivative of the cone volume with resct to h is what he needed to integrate to get the volume back.

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Re: New mathematic on english

anonimnystefy wrote:

I'm sorry. Let me try again:

The partial derivative of the expression for volume of a cone is

and when you integrate it you get what you should-the volume of a cone.

What you saw in that article is the total derivative of the volume of a cone. That is a different thing and its integral isn't the volume of a cone, and it shouldn't be, because you aren't differentiating the volume only with respect to h in the first place.

Let's make simpler. Write everything that you want to tell for my drawing D2.

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Write down formulas by total and partial derivatives!

"The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus"