I hear what you're saying NY, but I think you can, and should avoid talking about Adolf Hitler from 1930's Germany in the context of changing the dire situation we face today in modern Britain. It's critical at this stage you get the right people to you, in numbers, and don't draw the predictable unwarranted 'attention' from the usual suspects to anything remotely nationalistic in these early stages.
There have been hundreds of examples of our people doing what's best for the folc, in Britain, standing up bravely knowing full well the consequences if it went wrong with them. Surely they are more relevant to us and the future struggle?
It's good the BM support you at your events. But like the graphic in the screen shot, they have 'stayed the same' for 20 years without coming up with something new. Everyone is keen to see how NA's path differs, pure and simply.

I hear what you're saying NY, but I think you can, and should avoid talking about Adolf Hitler from 1930's Germany in the context of changing the dire situation we face today in modern Britain. It's critical at this stage you get the right people to you, in numbers, and don't draw the predictable unwarranted 'attention' from the usual suspects to anything remotely nationalistic in these early stages.
There have been hundreds of examples of our people doing what's best for the folc, in Britain, standing up bravely knowing full well the consequences if it went wrong with them. Surely they are more relevant to us and the future struggle?
It's good the BM support you at your events. But like the graphic in the screen shot, they have 'stayed the same' for 20 years without coming up with something new. Everyone is keen to see how NA's path differs, pure and simply.

I have noticed that this has been a classic concern that gets raised. Other nationalists do naturally get concerned that he who shall not be named will only assist in attracting the sort of characters who just want some new C18, destined to crash and burn a fiery death into the arms of the state. Interestingly it couldn't be further from the truth. Talking openly about national socialism, naming the Jew and publicly discussing how Hitler was right has actually attracted the sort of individuals you would never dream of getting involved in far right politics. Intelligent, articulated, smart looking young people. Look at the EDL... just look at the mess of the EDL... they take a totally moderate position and yet attract degenerates, I hope that whatever version of Britain these clowns are trying to defend burns frankly, I certainly don't view their reality as worth saving.

The reason the EDL get called far right is because their membership look and behave like the classic stereotypes the media love, regardless of their moderate position and pro-kosher attitude. Integrity and honesty will attract the principled few, some of the most radical individuals I have met do not look or behave anything like tactless thugs or classic stereotypes, yet their opinions would be considered far more extreme than those who carry the 'hardman' image when it comes to what is required for actual change.
I've lost track of the amount of hard looking casuals types I've met who bitch out when it comes to actually discussing a solution to the problems our race faces. For a lot of people like that this scene is solely about image, football weekends and being seen as someone not to be messed with, for others this is a spiritual lonely and yet glorious struggle that has taken over their life to the point of obsession. These sort of people are the useful ones, they get attracted by honesty.

I don't think too much should be made of Steve Frost's and the BM's adherence to National Socialism, after all, irrespective of the image NA may try to project, they will be labelled 'neo-Nazi' or 'Fascist' by the media and by the likes of Searchlight.

The fact is that the period of the BUFs in 1930s England, Fascist Italy and especially the 3rd Reich in Germany do evoke a sense of style, elan, and potency that is missing from modern day politics. Therefore association with National Socialism may offer the key to attracting young people who are looking for excitement, a cause, and the ultimate way to rebel against the older generation.

What seems to have been missed in an analysis of last Saturday's meeting, is that four organisations came together and demonstrated synergy: NA representing an embryonic street movement with Fascistic style; Sigurd, an organisation blending physical culture with Aryan spirituality; BM representing an enduring adherence to the fundamental principles of National Socialism; and Western Spring adding a visionary, analytical and intellectual dimension to the mix.

Something new and potent is taking shape and we should be excited for the future -- The future is bright, the future is White!

I hear what you're saying NY, but I think you can, and should avoid talking about Adolf Hitler from 1930's Germany in the context of changing the dire situation we face today in modern Britain.

Why? We like Adolf Hitler. Along with 1930's Germany, National Socialism, Fascism, and the Roman salute. So we're going to be open about that. Why? Because if you attempt to hide this fact; the Left will sooner or later gain access to footage or pictorial evidence of you expressing support for these things anyway. Then you've been shown to be inconsistent - not to mention dishonest. And at that point your credibility is shot to pieces. And with little credibility you'll repel everybody - including the very people who actually agree/sympathise with you. We'd rather be completely honest, retain our credibility, and attract an honest, genuine and committed minority. That we can work with. Big things can be achieved with a determined minority.

Why? We like Adolf Hitler. Along with 1930's Germany, National Socialism, Fascism, and the Roman salute. So we're going to be open about that. Why? Because if you attempt to hide this fact; the Left will sooner or later gain access to footage or pictorial evidence of you expressing support for these things anyway. Then you've been shown to be inconsistent - not to mention dishonest. And at that point your credibility is shot to pieces. And with little credibility you'll repel everybody - including the very people who actually agree/sympathise with you. We'd rather be completely honest, retain our credibility, and attract an honest, genuine and committed minority. That we can work with. Big things can be achieved with a determined minority.

I support your openness about expressing appreciation for the best figures and aspects of our movement; it speaks volumes about being honest and 'saving face' against future media intrusion, unlike most of the shady Establishment.

However, I think the other point Atrociter is trying to make is that sticking to German and Italian icons makes one's own identity, being English in our case, seem lacking. It makes English identity seem like a thing tagging along, rather than being the forefront of our identity.

I would argue that Harold Godwinson did as much to preserve our identity as any Fascist or National Socialist. The Normans, IMO, have done more damage, through their conquest of this country, than any other force in history. I will defend that statement.

Britishness is dying, but the English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish nationalism is rising. As Nationalists and NS, I believe we need to add our own ethnic cultural identities to NS. the Slavic members and groups on here are particularly good at that. I'm sure our cultural historical figures would agree with our ideological sentiments

Why? We like Adolf Hitler. Along with 1930's Germany, National Socialism, Fascism, and the Roman salute. So we're going to be open about that. Why? Because if you attempt to hide this fact; the Left will sooner or later gain access to footage or pictorial evidence of you expressing support for these things anyway. Then you've been shown to be inconsistent - not to mention dishonest. And at that point your credibility is shot to pieces. And with little credibility you'll repel everybody - including the very people who actually agree/sympathise with you. We'd rather be completely honest, retain our credibility, and attract an honest, genuine and committed minority. That we can work with. Big things can be achieved with a determined minority.

There should be no decisive arguments on here between nationalists on socialism. We'll agree to disagree upon our own personal views of where a workable way forward will be, and save our efforts for our true enemies away from these pages.
Those who believe the foundation of the fight should come from the direction of English heritage and the suffering of the folc will be at Stamford Bridge, Battle, Maldon, St Edmund's events etc. Others who believe the break through will come from National socialism of thirties Germany will have their own rallies. That's the bottom line and is definitely not worth bickering over endless pages on here.

There should be no decisive arguments on here between nationalists on socialism. We'll agree to disagree upon our own personal views of where a workable way forward will be, and save our efforts for our true enemies away from these pages.
Those who believe the foundation of the fight should come from the direction of English heritage and the suffering of the folc will be at Stamford Bridge, Battle, Maldon, St Edmund's events etc. Others who believe the break through will come from National socialism of thirties Germany will have their own rallies. That's the bottom line and is definitely not worth bickering over endless pages on here.