tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post5187752586405476151..comments2015-03-31T14:52:13.632-05:00Comments on Cognitive Dissidence: Walkergate: APCO WorldwideJeff_simpson7http://www.blogger.com/profile/12118335402641807712noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-25308564993436574992013-02-05T11:42:18.931-06:002013-02-05T11:42:18.931-06:00$10,000 we know about and that was used up with th...$10,000 we know about and that was used up with thw first 4 calls to major media &quot;Commentary&quot; editors. There are so many ways for other Walker supporters to funnel cash into necessary operations to keep Walker afloat politicaly and financially. The glue that holds republican together now is cash tit for tat (although they prefer doling out taxpayer money like the millions from the House to fight DOMA). PalliAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-74809730131497794222013-02-04T16:34:49.587-06:002013-02-04T16:34:49.587-06:00Also, if you say &quot;Fitzmas&quot; here in Wisco...Also, if you say &quot;Fitzmas&quot; here in Wisconsin, most people think you are referring to the one of the state senators and don&#39;t get that you are talking about Valerie Plame, etc.<br /><br />I don&#39;t really see what a blogger is supposed to do about a criminal enterprise, but that is just my opinion. I think that is a matter for the legal system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-7449196848874464682013-02-04T14:32:21.786-06:002013-02-04T14:32:21.786-06:00Let&#39;s stop being politically correct. Spokes-...Let&#39;s stop being politically correct. Spokes-people and PR firms are paid, professional liars. Why else would you need to hire someone to speak for you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-89614876631975441522013-02-04T12:36:48.955-06:002013-02-04T12:36:48.955-06:00is the rent-a-mob position the one that CRG fills ...is the rent-a-mob position the one that CRG fills for scott walker? Jeff_simpson7http://www.blogger.com/profile/12118335402641807712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-13778437146936325672013-02-04T11:15:56.280-06:002013-02-04T11:15:56.280-06:00Yep. They get idiots and authoritarian followers ...Yep. They get idiots and authoritarian followers like Teabilly Kim Simac to &quot;ride the bus&quot; with HER authoritarian followers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-23157373755792017832013-02-04T09:54:17.454-06:002013-02-04T09:54:17.454-06:00I think APCO arranged Walker&#39;s sudden emergenc...I think APCO arranged Walker&#39;s sudden emergence as an Op Ed writer in some major publications. This is standard PR work. Aside from that, they are probably monitoring social media.<br /><br />$10,000 is not a lot of money. APCO will get much more once the indictment comes and they get to work poisoning the prospective jury pool. They do have a unit that deals with jury selection in civil suits against corporations, tobacco companies for instance.<br /><br />I think anything that would appear especially nefarious and potentially embarrassing to Walker, such as rent-a-mobs, would be covered by a third party such as the Cline Mining Group or the the Kochs, or some other concerned corporate bandits.<br /><br /> Garethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-14020864995048372182013-02-04T04:50:00.040-06:002013-02-04T04:50:00.040-06:00A10:27, thanks very much. A10:27, thanks very much. John Caspernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-8422759049932327392013-02-03T23:40:18.148-06:002013-02-03T23:40:18.148-06:00this is really disgusting and certainly explains a...this is really disgusting and certainly explains a lot about what is wrong and who is being used to profit individuals and corporationsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-90841337189188678442013-02-03T22:27:20.155-06:002013-02-03T22:27:20.155-06:00APCO and Scott Walker? Here is what Wendell Potter...APCO and Scott Walker? Here is what Wendell Potter had to say about APCO&#39;s role in fighting meaningful health care reform.<br /><br /><i> Guernica: Let’s talk about these contentious town hall meetings. What role, if any, does the industry play in causing the disruptive, or what Senator Claire McCaskill called “rude” behavior?<br /><br />Wendell Potter: One of the big PR firms [for] the insurance industry is APCO Worldwide. They’ve represented the industry for quite a long time. They’re skilled at setting up front groups to spread disinformation to challenge proposals. So they will get talking points into the hands of conservative radio talk show hosts and editorial writers at conservative publications. It all comes from the health insurance industry, but they spread this stuff in such a way that their fingerprints are not directly on it. A guy named Bill Pierce works for APCO; he is an executive there. He used to work as a spokesman for Blue Cross Blue Shield and the Bush Administration. So if you called the number for Healthcare America, you would be connected with Bill Pierce’s office at APCO… The tragic thing about these town hall meetings is how some of these angry citizens are being manipulated. When you see these stories about the meetings and how the participants are so concerned about government takeover of our healthcare system, they use the very words that were fed to them by the health insurance industry, not realizing that that’s where they came from, not realizing that they are unwitting pawns of the industry. Because they hear that stuff from people they believe are credible, like Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck.</i><br /> <br />http://www.guernicamag.com/interviews/the_last_temptation_of_wendell/<br /><br />Not that anything like this would be a bad thing...<br /><br /><i>Guernica: What are the chances that the industry is actually busing people in to disrupt the meetings?<br /> <br />Wendell Potter: I think indirectly they are. APCO and other PR firms do stuff like that. It would be hard to trace it directly because they go through a lot of trouble to funnel the money in ways that it’s not directly traceable to them. When I say money, of course we’re talking about insurance premiums that people pay, and it’s being used for these purposes.<br /><br />Guernica: So you’re saying these PR firms could potentially be sticking people on buses and sending them to these town hall meetings in order to disrupt them?<br /><br />Wendell Potter: Yeah, they know where to go, what kind of organizations to turn to to get that kind of stuff done. There’s no doubt about it. On the other hand, I’m sure there are individuals who show up at these meetings who show up on their own and feel like they need to make sure their voices are heard… But other people there are very orchestrated.</i><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-72183264758419885322013-02-03T21:23:13.785-06:002013-02-03T21:23:13.785-06:00You will have to excuse me if I don&#39;t share yo...You will have to excuse me if I don&#39;t share your Chicken Little attitude. Or perhaps your a concern troll trying to cast doubt upon the whole process. <br /><br />Either way, you&#39;ll find little solace here.<br /><br />The legals system has handled things just as big, if not bigger. <br /><br />The thing that I want to know is if you&#39;re so convinced that the DA&#39;s office is not up to the job, what is your solution?capperhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08751967312821403092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-73515378537122029192013-02-03T20:53:33.970-06:002013-02-03T20:53:33.970-06:00you are really reaching and avoiding the biggest i...you are really reaching and avoiding the biggest issue of all -- IF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS A CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE, CAN OUR LEGAL SYSTEM DEAL WITH IT.<br /><br />We have no legal recourse if an illegitimate government hijacks the legislative agenda and conducts environmental and economic terrorism against the citizens it has a duty to serve. You gloat too much about john doe -- you must have loved Fitzmas too.<br /><br />There are real issues and legitimate questions whether scott walker will even have to answer questions about the criminality behind his ascent to power, much less be held responsible for them.<br /><br />This is really another nonsense post -- throw people red meat if you must, but the dialog is deteriorating.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-4315754672949647232013-02-03T18:24:03.697-06:002013-02-03T18:24:03.697-06:00Say What - don&#39;t be surprised at the divisiven...Say What - don&#39;t be surprised at the divisiveness about the the ridiculous posts Scooter makes. It&#39;s all intentional.<br /><br />But Capper, I think there&#39;s more to be dug up with this group and what their self-described &quot;tactics&quot; really include.<br /><br />This is very, very interesting - and could be really juicy. Let&#39;s stay closely tuned in on these peeps. <br /><br />Nice job, Caps!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-5480556107586062752013-02-03T16:55:27.365-06:002013-02-03T16:55:27.365-06:00They told him to FB post his every action. Ham an...They told him to FB post his every action. Ham and Rolls today after church. Problem is - ever time he does this - he divides people even more. Incredible hate on both sides seen in his FB posts. Say What? http://www.blogger.com/profile/10542136708478530935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-42989712642184725432013-02-03T16:38:13.886-06:002013-02-03T16:38:13.886-06:00Even tho it started on 9/20/12 it is still out the...Even tho it started on 9/20/12 it is still out there. A &quot;friend&quot; posted it on FB about a week ago. tomkrajhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15004297821711811351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-57760659175027816742013-02-03T16:28:27.008-06:002013-02-03T16:28:27.008-06:00I would guess that APCO is the group that is doing...I would guess that APCO is the group that is doing the online petition in support of Gov. Walker and ACT 10. The petition says in part that it is liberal Dane county judges that are trying to overturn ACT 10. tomkrajhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15004297821711811351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5888314760091661875.post-50820625198726609062013-02-03T16:27:52.890-06:002013-02-03T16:27:52.890-06:00Ok....Why does Scooter need a high power PR damage...Ok....Why does Scooter need a high power PR damage control team if there was no damage and nothing to control? The 10k sounds like a retainer....just in case.Luanne Petersonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00688601341924739138noreply@blogger.com