AsterAzul wrote:Yeah, he's being a real good sport for having to play the part of everyone's villain.Poor fellow; he did start the whole damn thing, why are we complaining so much?

Cause it's a bad name that someone else already took?

Caught in the headlamp glare of your own blinding vanity/Mesmerised by the stare of your shallow personalityGorging the junk food of flattery you drag your fat ego around/Everyone floored by the battering you give to whoever's aroundOh Narcissus you petulant child admiring yourself in the curve of my eyes/Oh Narcissus you angel beguiled unsated by self you do nothing but die

Yes that Toonspace and Webcomicspace were the best they were able to come up with suggests someone phoned in a couple of names and they took one out of a hat which is generally indicative of the amount of thought and planning that goes into running keenspace.

If we're going to change the name we should change it to something memorable and with energy, not dull and generic. Hell even doombees has a little more pizzaz and personality to it than toonspace. You'd almost think Keen was going out of its way to pick a name that painted the comics on keenspace as dull and lifeless.

If we can't come up with a good name that uses space then simply lose the space. I'd rather have a good name that is memorable than a dull name that uses space.

Chris Crosby wrote:We're not at all interested in registering Toonspace as a trademark. The whole point of 'space (as opposed to Keenspot) is that it's open to everyone. If we used it, and that's still up for debate, it would be an open source name just as Keenspace would be if not for the brand confusion.

"Open Source Name." Nice term Chris.

The problem is that we will STILL have some problems. Not as much as what Ghastly describe, of course. Remember Phoenix, the web browser? How it had to change names to Firebird? Whoops, it's a name of a database, and they got more lawyers than what Mozilla has. One more time... FireFox! There we go!

This is what you get when you don't involve the community. We're doing Mozilla all over again.

Keenspace said enough. "This is a space, and it's Keen. You should visit."

Toonspace...not as much. "This is a space, and it's...toony? Toon-filled?"

Still, Toonspace is easily remembered, so it's fine with me. I don't understand the concept of not trademarking it, though -- it seems you would have to, in order to do any kind of advertising at all. Otherwise other people could advertise their own 'toonspaces' on their own websites. Very strange decision.

Keenspace said "this is a service of Keenspot entertainment. Notice the similarity in the names. It's because Keenspace is space for everyone and we at Keenspot are making this available to you." It was a play on words. It wasn't a separate entity. It said that the same technology used for this elite group of comics is available to everyone at no cost.

Toonspace says "this is a space for cartoons." It's simple and easy to say but it's neither complete nor accurate, especially for story comics. Cartoons have the connotation of being for kids. That's why anime is referred to as animation and not Japanese cartoons. There's a different level of thought involved. There is anime for small children and there is anime for adults. It's all lumped together.

Toonspace says nothing about who or what it's based on. It's an entity in itself and therefore it needs its own identity.

I liked the idea of being part of the free version of Keenspot. It had its own appeal. I went and got my own domain name because of the name change because the appeal is gone. I'm not sure what it would take to get it back.

Ghastly wrote:Yes that Toonspace and Webcomicspace were the best they were able to come up with suggests someone phoned in a couple of names and they took one out of a hat which is generally indicative of the amount of thought and planning that goes into running keenspace.

If we're going to change the name we should change it to something memorable and with energy, not dull and generic. Hell even doombees has a little more pizzaz and personality to it than toonspace. You'd almost think Keen was going out of its way to pick a name that painted the comics on keenspace as dull and lifeless.

If we can't come up with a good name that uses space then simply lose the space. I'd rather have a good name that is memorable than a dull name that uses space.