Thursday, February 23, 2017

In a hard-hitting speech, the head of a major conservative organization argued that the so-called "alt-right" is actually just a cover for a "hate-filled left-wing fascist group" seeking to undermine conservatism.

Speaking at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference just outside Washington, D.C., American Conservative Union Executive Director Dan Schneider sought to cast the loosely organized movement with ties to white nationalists that played a role in last year's elections out of the conservative coalition.

"There is a sinister organization that is trying to worm its way into our ranks and we must not be duped," he told thousands of grassroots conservatives. "Just a few years ago, this hate-filled left-wing fascist group hijacked the very term 'alt-right.' That term has been used for a long time in a very good and normal way."

The speech was the latest salvo in an ongoing war among conservatives about what to do about the alt-right, which was galvanized by President Trump's populist campaign for the White House. Some members of the American Conservative Union's board, including President Matt Schlapp, rallied around Trump despite concerns about his breaks from conservative ideology.

Seriously, who listens to these idiots anymore? We're not trying to worm our way into their ranks. We reject conservativism and we reject conservatives just as we reject noble defeat, futility, and failure. Do you know how to confirm that Milo truly isn't Alt-Right? Because he agreed to speak at CPAC. I'd no more agree to speak there than to a meeting of Whigs or Popolares.

Conservatism is mortally wounded. It is conceptually cancer-stricken. It clings desperately to its pseudo-ideology in a world of identity. It is an outdated and irrelevant posture, nothing more.

UPDATE: Did a Darkstream on Periscope about the cucks and cons attacking the Alt-Right. Longest, best-attended one yet! The replay is here.

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Back in the 70's and 80's the Neo Conservatives were welcomed with open arms by the GOPe. Did NeoCons ever have to actually adopt the ethos of conservatism? Or did they just turn the GOP into a "proposition party"?

Looks like the latter. Unlimited immigration into the GOP didn't do it any good, for sure.

Cuckservatives squeal "Nazi! Nazi!" like some pimple faced Klantifa wearing the hoodie his mom washed for him. This is supposed to have an effect on based people?

At least this year's annual get together of "hari-krishnas who drink" will be more entertaining than usual.

On the docket are discussions about political correctness, Trump's "deplorables" and "snowflakes, safe spaces and trigger warnings." Dog the Bounty Hunter will be the special guest at an event to gin up interest in drafting far-right sheriff David Clarke as a Wisconsin Senate candidate. (The flyer promises a free sample of "Clarke-Tosterone: For the treatment of Low-T RINOs and GOP Eunuchs.") Another panel is titled: "If Heaven Has a Gate, a Wall, and Extreme Vetting, Why Can't America?"

From the ACU page: "Dan has a long and distinguished career in public policy, starting with his job as chief of staff to conservative stalwart former Congressman Jim Ryun (R-KS). He was then recruited into the U.S. Department of Labor as White House Liaison under Secretary Elaine L. Chao in the first term of the George W. Bush administration, and served in both the White House and at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services as an acting assistant secretary. Most recently, Dan advised U.S. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) on the selection of conservative candidates for federal board positions.

He is a lifetime member of the National Rifle Association, an Eagle Scout, a former board member of Americans United for Life and served two faith-based missions in the Peoples’ Republic of China."

Let's see: Chao, Bush, and McConnell; he hasn't renounced his Eagle Scout badge, and he was allowed into China on a "faith-based" mission? Sure he was.

I have seen very little evidence that SJWs know how to do actual research and come up with reasoned arguments. Cucks on the other hand are capable of doing extensive research and understanding the issue when they feel like it.

When they don't feel like it they take the purposely dishonest approach of not doing research and not trying to understand the issue beyond what the SJWs are saying. In many ways this is much worse than a regular SJW.

As mentioned yesterday in response to the question: Is there anything more worthless than a leftist?

Yes, Virginia. There really is something more worthless than a leftist. The "conservatives" who cannot conserve as much as women's bathroom. There's a reason they're known as the Gay Old Pedobears around these parts. No doubt the Judeo-Christ would be delighted with the speech of Dan Schneider, as would his vicar on earth, Hi-Fellatin' Franny

While it appears the cucks are attempting to burn the bridges the alt-right built (are building) to the future (and heritage/heirloom America), the trolls always have to settle in. I honestly don't know which is more annoying. Must...not...feed.

Dan Schneider:"There is a sinister organization that is trying to worm its way into our ranks and we must not be duped," ... just a few years ago, this hate-filled left-wing fascist group hijacked the very term 'alt-right.'"

What would have been nice, so nice, is for him to tell the story of how this happened with some proper nouns - you know, people, places, things, what-not.

"I hope they fight us. I figure I could take three or four out. But seriously, it's like this guy said;"

That would be fun, but more likely would negotiate their unconditional surrender before entering the battlefield, and we would write a nice letter to their families saying how principled they were in defeat.

""They are anti-Semites. They are racist. They are sexist," he said. "They hate the Constitution. They hate free markets. They hate pluralism. They hate everything and despite everything we believe in."

This is actually true. This guy knows the deal. This guy is just on the wrong side... it's almost like he's some kind of liberal... yesterday's liberal.

I'm a little confused. As alt-right, am I supposed to be a right-wing fascist infiltrating left-wing protests (per Robert Reich), or am I supposed to be a left-wing fascist trying to infiltrate right-wing organizations (per CPAC)?

Conservatism could rally those disaffected with the alternative only until a 3rd alternative arose and made conservatism utterly irrelevant.

CPAC is like a frat house of dweebs who are outraged that a different, new group walked by and all the CPAC party-goers are joining the other guy's bandwagon.

Either that of CPAC was part of the Deep State/CIA's D's vs. R's Kabuki Theater keeping the rubes' attention while the folks milking us like dairy cows laughed and accumulated their beach front condos, but now the rubes have caught on and are staring at those who thought they could rob us blind, deaf & dumb forever.

And we're thumbing our blades, deciding if their edges are keen enough....

Mocheirge February 23, 2017 1:57 PMI'm a little confused. As alt-right, am I supposed to be a right-wing fascist infiltrating left-wing protests (per Robert Reich), or am I supposed to be a left-wing fascist trying to infiltrate right-wing organizations (per CPAC)?

"Either that of CPAC was part of the Deep State/CIA's D's vs. R's Kabuki Theater keeping the rubes' attention while the folks milking us like dairy cows laughed and accumulated their beach front condos, but now the rubes have caught on and are staring at those who thought they could rob us blind, deaf & dumb forever."

That's the answer, even back in the 90s when I was politically active we all know them as phony and staged. They were never really the conservatives, just people trying to get their money and use it against them.

@1. "Back in the 70's and 80's the Neo Conservatives were welcomed with open arms by the GOPe. Did NeoCons ever have to actually adopt the ethos of conservatism? Or did they just turn the GOP into a "proposition party"?

No, I would say they never had to adopt anything like traditional conservatism, since the meaning of conservatism was already unclear at the time. They migrated into the Republican Party in the 1970s, as a result of the Left having become anti-war and anti-Israel. They occupied positions in the CIA under Bush Sr and then entered the White House under Reagan. They migrated into the Republican Party, and thus the conservative movement, at a time when it was weak and lacked identity. The Democrats controlled both houses of Congress from 1955-1980.

Their primary focus was always an internationalist foreign policy. In the 1930s, many of them were Trotskyites; when that was defeated by nationalistic Stalinism, they switched to favoring the spread of democratic capitalism via the US military. Their ultimate goal is the defeat of nationalism, particularly in countries that they harbor an ethnic grudge against; the means utilized to accomplish that end, whether Trotskyite international revolution, neo-liberal globalization, or US military nation building, are negotiable.

We're right wing fascists (literally Hitler!) trying to infiltrate "pure" that is NRO/neocon approved right wing organizations. Muh proposition, muh welfare/warfare. It ain't easy being a heretic, but it sure is fun!

Both these idiots and the libertarians know the anti-discrimination laws are wrong. They violate private property and freedom of association and have set up systematic discrimination against white men. So both of these parties should admit this is unjust and fix it.

Gary Johnson and the twelve (or however many) Republican dwarves all destroyed themselves because they rather continue to cry RACIST instead of addressing the injustice. And these morons show no sign of learning their lessons.

Cicatrizatic, can you give me some links to document this Trotskyite->neocon progression?

https://infogalactic.com/info/Irving_Kristol

"Kristol was born in Brooklyn, New York, the son of non-observant Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe.[4][5] He received his B.A. from the City College of New York in 1940, which was free to attend until the 1970s, where he majored in history and was part of a small but vocal Trotskyist anti-Soviet group"

...

"In July 2002, he received from President George W. Bush the Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian honor.

Kristol married historian Gertrude Himmelfarb in 1942. They had two children, Elizabeth Nelson and William Kristol, the editor of The Weekly Standard."

CPAC seemed to matter during the Gingrich Revolution, and not before, and not since. Revolutionary feeling did pervade the forum, and a Renaissance of Constitutional thought was going down. Talk was thick throughout the halls of the Constitution, Bill of Rights, federalism, the Federalist Papers, D'Tocqueville, Hayek's Road to Serfdom.

That was conservatism's last chance in retrospect. It's become clear they've traded that energy of renewal for pomp and security.

That all fell apart so fast. Sapped of vitality, it's been a forum for mere theater and fundraising ever since, as far as I can tell. And it looks like the stage managers are determined to keep it safely that way.

The main source confirming the Trotskyite origins of Neoconservativism is Irving Kristol's 1977 essay "Memoirs of a Trotskyist":

http://www.pbs.org/arguing/nyintellectuals_krystol_2.html

He makes a distinction between Trotskyist and Trotskyite, where Trotskyist is supposed to refer to an ideological disciple of Trotsky who is nevertheless not necessarily an actual communist.

Neoconservatives today don't profess to be following the ideas of Trotsky, but the elements are still there and apparent in their positions: an aggressive, almost never-ending internationalist crusade to usher in one final political form at the end of history. Their publications often discuss domestic issues, but the overwhelming focus is always pushing this type of foreign policy.

A source that confirms that Neoconservatism is a Jewish movement serving Jewish interests is Murray Friedman's book "The Neoconservative Revolution", published by the American Jewish Committee (AJC).

Stephen Sniegoski has written a book about the neocons called "The Transparent Cabal", which I have not read, but which has been recommended to me.

"There is a sinister organization that is trying to worm its way into our ranks and we must not be duped," he told thousands of grassroots conservatives. "Just a few years ago, this hate-filled left-wing fascist group hijacked the very term 'alt-right.' That term has been used for a long time in a very good and normal way."Wait, what? Who was using the term “alt-right” before then, and what ‘left-wing fascist’ group is he talking about?

According to the Center for Responsive Politics, the American Conservative Union spent roughly $20,000 on lobbying in 2001 , $400,000 in 2003, and $1,092,837 in 2005.[25] They did not spend any money on lobbying in 2004. From 2006 until 2015, the ACU spent an average of $53,000 per year, for a total of $535,350.[25] In 2016, the ACU has currently spent roughly $30,000.

Excepting 2005, that's pocket change. I wonder what it is they do spend money on, and if it amounts to more than the people who run the organization are paid.

Diana Hubbard Carr, ACU's former administrative director and ex-wife of David Keene, pleaded guilty in June 2011 to embezzling between $120,000 and $400,000 from 2006 to 2009, during her time as bookkeeper for the group

Another panel is titled: "If Heaven Has a Gate, a Wall, and Extreme Vetting, Why Can't America?"

It's so cute to see them sneaking up on topics they still can hardly believe people are allowed to talk about. They must feel very brave, even putting such dangerous words on the schedule -- you know, after people in the Alt-Right thought them up and said them first.

"In a hard-hitting speech, the head of a major conservative organization argued that..."

Which only a few months (or minutes) ago would have in any other context read: "In another blustering and confused tirade, the head of a seemingly fascist organization of fat-cat sponsored conservatives insisted that..."

So much hogwash in one speech.....First, as the Ted Cruz supporters have screamed thousands of times.....Donald Trump is NOT a conservative. Yes, we know that. Ted was the one married to the Religious Right....not Trump.Second, one thing in common with the NeverTrump tribe is they all CLAIM to be conservative. We know them at RINO Rockefeller CountryClub Republicans. They are not conservative, they are Liberal Republicans. Probably all of them belong to the Ripon Society. The names are familiar.....Karl Rove, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Mitt Romney, Miss Lindsey Graham, John Ka-sick, Juan McCain. Yes, the familiar NeoCons who fought against Donald Trump through the entire campaign and even bolted the party when Trump won the nomination. Yes, they have continued to bellyache and whineass ever since the election, while trying to worm themselves into the White House and the Trump Administration. They are habitual liars, disloyal, and more likely to vote Democrat. How that ever became "conservative" is a complete mystery. They are not conservative in the least, they are REACTIONARY Liberals.

"There is a sinister organization that is trying to worm its way into our ranks and we must not be duped,"

Oy vey they don't want to keep giving $8billion a year to Israel while white homeless vets starve.

Because he agreed to speak at CPAC. I'd no more agree to speak there than to a meeting of Whigs or Popolares.

I would be cursing them out like Andrew Dice Clay.

There's a reason they're known as the Gay Old Pedobears...can we call them Cuckpackers?

http://reason.com/reasontv/2015/02/28/we-got-on-grindr-at-cpac

Ok... what's the over under on the number of fat girls chained up in his basement?

Suckers bet. They are likely skinny if they are not let off chains.

OT: Someone needs to tell this fucking cuck it was bath house Barry who personally took out Bin Laiden. https://www.yahoo.com/news/bin-laden-raid-architect-mcraven-says-trump-media-attack-threatens-democracy-143623267.html

Why is it when I see these cuckservatives fold to the left on an issue, I hear C-3PO saying: "Surrender is a perfectly acceptable alternative in extreme circumstances. The Empire may be gracious enough to—"

a_peraspera wrote:I made up a new meme to use in conversations with vanilla normies: "Setting up your grandkids to live in a copy of Mexico (or Syria/Somalia) is child abuse."So is sending them to public school.

Matthew wrote:3. Cucks like to watchOwww. The other Burn Unit strikes again.

I don't even consider myself alt right, I guess I'm just too old, but get em guys. These dooshbags deserve everything you throw at them. My life was spent going along, because they were all there was. This is a new age. You are the future, they are the past. You have no idea how many of us old fogies are with you. I tend to believe this particular organization invited Milo, just so they could uninvite him. But that is not what is important. Taking down the cucks, one by one, is what matters. Millions of us plan on sitting back (with big smiles) and watch you do just that. Salute.

@52Neoconservatives today don't profess to be following the ideas of Trotsky, but the elements are still there and apparent in their positions: an aggressive, almost never-ending internationalist crusade to usher in one final political form at the end of history.

Trotsky himself infamously wanted to carry the Bolshevik revolution around the world on the bayonets of the Red army. Same stuff, different slogans.

Tikkun Olem, always with the Tikkun Olem. Always with the war to end war, with someone else's sons on the front line. Are we allowed to Notice a patten yet, or is Noticing prohibited Fascist Neo Nazi White nationalist Russian Hacker bad terrible awful thinking, still?

LurkingPuppy wrote:"There is a sinister organization that is trying to worm its way into our ranks and we must not be duped," he told thousands of grassroots conservatives. "Just a few years ago, this hate-filled left-wing fascist group hijacked the very term 'alt-right.' That term has been used for a long time in a very good and normal way."

Wait, what? Who was using the term “alt-right” before then, and what ‘left-wing fascist’ group is he talking about?

"Conservatives" whose biggest fear are the values and policies that dominated in the USA for its entire history prior to WWII. If you want your open borders and imperial wars served up with bible thumping and floral patriotic language, you are a conservative. If you want the same policies accompanied by an anti-white male victim fetish, you are a liberal.

Bannon at CPAC said that everyday, people come to Trump and say "this is what you got elected on, but this is what you should do". He went on to say that Trump has rejected this advice every.single.time.

"Conservatism is mortally wounded. It is conceptually cancer-stricken. It clings desperately to its pseudo-ideology in a world of identity. It is an outdated and irrelevant posture, nothing more."

The ways in which this statement are wrong are hard to count.

Conservatives completely dominate the GOP and who in turn dominate the majority of state governments. In addition, there is nary a single "Identity" politician on the right in Washington, DC and not many more in the hinterlands. The Tea Party, a hard right conservative constituency may not be organized, but they continue to form the core of the GOP.

Over the next 6 months you will see a bevy of long time conservative policy initiatives introduced in Congressed from lower taxes to anti-abortion laws to deregulation to property rights to relinquishing of federal lands. All of these and the rest will be the policies that have long been a part of the Conservative core ideology.

Vox Day doesn't understand American politics. The proof is that he was able to make the statement quoted above.

These mainstream conservatives like to think they make up the Right, so everyone bad must be on the Left somehow. If he said we were "far-right" or something like that, it might pique the curiosity of some of their members.

By "fascist," he just means we're not nice.

And to try to get ahead of it: note that Frashman is a new name, but probably not a new commenter. Don't touch the poop.

In addition, there is nary a single "Identity" politician on the right in Washington, DC and not many more in the hinterlands. The Tea Party, a hard right conservative constituency may not be organized, but they continue to form the core of the GOP.

Who is Donald Trump?

Over the next 6 months you will see a bevy of long time conservative policy initiatives introduced in Congressed from lower taxes to anti-abortion laws to deregulation to property rights to relinquishing of federal lands. All of these and the rest will be the policies that have long been a part of the Conservative core ideology.You misspelled "kayfabe".

"Introduced", not passed, not implemented. If "introducing" legislation were winning, Trump would't be president, cucky-boy.

These policies has long been a part of the headfake the GOP had no intention of ever implementing, but that they knew their desperate voters wanted.

So they lied and pretended, and suckers like you ate it up. Still can't admit you've been conned?

With very few exceptions Trump won by espousing conservative principles and policies.Trump won because White working-class Americans identified with him. Trump is one of us. You, and the GOP aren't.

There were a total of 17 Republicans at the start of the primaries, most proudly called themselves "conservatives."

And 16 all agreed on one thing - Donald Trump was an outsider, and certainly no real conservative.

Trump then went on to kick the ever-livin' dogshit out of every. last. one. of. them.

Sorry, but reclaiming our sovereignty and our borders ceased being a "conservative" principle ages ago, and is clearly better defined in today's terms as "nationalistic," which, incidentally is a term that conservatives throw around, and they mean it as hateful when they do it.

Jeb! (you know, the guy who says a foreigner who breaks the law and sneaks into the country is just committing an act of love) is the face of the conservatives. Losers.

"These policies has long been a part of the headfake the GOP had no intention of ever implementing, but that they knew their desperate voters wanted."

Taxes are at their lowest point in 100 years due to conservatives. Kansas was completely overrun by conservatives. With the exception of a few blue states, both regulations and the size of state governments (as well as the federal govt.) is at its smallest in decades.

"Trump won because White working-class Americans identified with him. Trump is one of us. You, and the GOP aren't"

Because trump got the vote of a certain percentage of whites doesn't mean he's a white nationalist. He's pro jewish, a zionist, anti-racist.

You're a fucking idiot who like too many people spout shit but don't know what conditions produced the shit.

Bobby Farr wrote:"Conservatives" whose biggest fear are the values and policies that dominated in the USA for its entire history prior to WWII. If you want your open borders and imperial wars served up with bible thumping and floral patriotic language, you are a conservative

Most conservatives don't want open borders and never have. Not interested in Imperial Wars either, although they were interested in opposing Communism, and for good reason.

On those issues, most conservatives are basically Old Right. The talking heads and people in power are more Neocon Globalist.

What I don't get about you folks is the condemnation of the mass of Conservatives (and Libertarians) just as they are wising up to the devoted Neocon Globalists in their midst.

Your strawman-fu is weak. We've never condemned the conservative and libertarian citizens who are wising up. Many of us were they at one time. If you're among that number and you feel condemned, you're taking something personally that you shouldn't.

We condemn the conservative/libertarian leaders who would rather lose if winning means the media will call them names, who tried to sell the country out to the Left rather than let someone win who they thought was embarrassing (and who, by winning, embarrassed them). We condemn those who ridiculed and damned us throughout the campaign, and now write "maybe these guys aren't so bad, if we can just teach them some manners" articles -- only to turn and attack us again as soon as they get a chance. We condemn those who wrap themselves in "Christian Conservative" but are such bald-faced liars that they would call us "left-wing fascists" because those words are best suited for keeping the donations flowing.

Yes, when I read the applause lines for Pence's nationalism at CPAC, it occurred to me that a grass-roots revolution within conservative groups like that, to loudly and publicly kick their cuck traitor leaders to the curb, would be a fine thing to see.

Pence said: "That if his people, who are called by his name, will humble themselves and pray"

Thanks for the link, I'm convinced now - America just needs to be more humble and everything will be fine.

Where do I sign up to fight for Israel? I'm a good goy -- er evangelical, just like Pence.

Empty words from a piece of shit Israel first cuck Republican who would gladly vote with Ryan to flood your neighborhood with imported rapists and gangs, if it means increasing corporate donor profits and assures GOP will lose and thus have no responsibility to do anything but steal from you.

But you know, it's great his speech made you feel good for a minute. It's the feelings that count.

The Somolians who packed the Tyson chicken you just ate for dinner have active TB, but you shouldn't be worried about that, because Jesus told us to feed the hungry. Be humble and take the food out of your own child's mouth to feed an immigrant - for Jesus.

Don't mind the 41% of white working class men who have given up on finding work - they probably deserve it for not being godly by denying their wife a new shared credit card.

@132 "Over the next 6 months you will see a bevy of long time conservative policy initiatives introduced in Congressed from lower taxes to anti-abortion laws to deregulation to property rights to relinquishing of federal lands. All of these and the rest will be the policies that have long been a part of the Conservative core ideology."

Are you KIDDING!?!? Really? Can you explain why they have NEVER EVER EVER DONE THIS BEFORE?!? Over he last 6 years -- or 16 years?! They've been sitting on their thumbs (and/or sucking them)! EVEN when they owned the houses-- nothing! When they COULD have stood up and said, "hell NO!" -- they said nothing. They DID nothing! They ARE nothing!!

The Trump train is several MILES ahead of the "core conservatives" -- y'all can't ever run fast enough to catch up! And we're NOT slowing down for you!

The irony is that the guy they tried to sabotage will be the one who ends up giving them the conservative wins their members always wanted, that they failed to deliver for decades. If conservative policies like deregulation and abortion restrictions are enacted, enabling the likes of CPAC to take credit in the eyes of their donors, they'll have Trump and the Deplorables they hate to thank for it -- not that they'll ever admit it.

I told you I agree with You Lazarus. This is America's chance to shine under Pence.

When immigrants rape our women, we're going to show them there's no depth to our humbleness by inviting even more immigrants.

When they steal 1 billion in SS benefits from our elderly, we're going to be so humble that no one will even publicly complain, as that would be rude.

When Pence undermines God-Emperor Trump and we end up at war with Iran, we'll prove America is great because we're humble Christians by lining up to die in place of an Israeli - they are, after all, god's chosen people.

God bless Mike Pence and the CIA.

I was so proud when Mike Pompeo gave Saudi Crown Prince Muhammed bin Nayef the George Tenet an award for "Counter-terrorism." I've never been more proud to be American.

I noticed how astute you are when you advocated throwing our full support behind an open borders, Israel first cuckservative to lead us through a nationalist rebirth of the United States as a white majority country.

By the way, tell us about all of the elections you have won. We will need your political experience to help us understand difficult questions, like "how much money should we take from our children and send to Israel next year?"

Yep. Their talk about all the conservative legislation they suddenly want to introduce is a way of saying, "We're going to set the agenda for you." Bannon is replying, "No, we already set the agenda during the campaign. It includes some things you claim to want, so we'll be glad to have your support on those, but you are not in charge, so don't get in our way."

12-23-17 wrote:I noticed how astute you are when you advocated throwing our full support behind an open borders, Israel first cuckservative to lead us through a nationalist rebirth of the United States as a white majority country.

State Who You Are, and Where You're Coming From exactly ... or you are wasting your time. Only Gammas believe they are way ahead of everybody... Secret Kings. Your lack of subtle knowledge, and the whole process of these politics is, well, revealing.

People here know the limitations of Pence and others, but we also know that they are following something that will likely have positive effects in the present.

Nice recovery. We're already making America great again, right in this thread. We found ourselves a secret genius (I had to get a dictionary for those 50cent words), and he's back to being humble, which as Mike Pence told is, is what made America great in the first place.

You seem like the guy to ask - recommend a good hat maker? It's hard to be a nice guy like you without a good fedora to tip at the passerby.

Next time I'm teaching and Somolian immigrants are throwing shit and sexually harassing girls, I will remember your example: win them with big words and humbleness, and above all, be nice.

I'm a simple man, and when a cowardly piece of shit cuck isn't telling me to be humble while I'm becoming a minority in my country, pedos infest every institution, and immigrants are flooding in, then I'm plain spoken.

a verbal error in which a speaker accidentally transposes the initial sounds or letters of two or more words, often to humorous effect, as in the sentence you have hissed the mystery lectures, accidentally spoken instead of the intended sentence you have missed the history lectures.

Giving the early thread, I think Spoonerism needs an internet profile, Maybe Spoonerism jr, where the Spoonerist escalates his insane projections in an accelerated manner.

Frashman wrote:Conservatives completely dominate the GOP and who in turn dominate the majority of state governments. In addition, there is nary a single "Identity" politician on the right in Washington, DC and not many more in the hinterlands. The Tea Party, a hard right conservative constituency may not be organized, but they continue to form the core of the GOP.

Over the next 6 months you will see a bevy of long time conservative policy initiatives introduced in Congressed from lower taxes to anti-abortion laws to deregulation to property rights to relinquishing of federal lands. All of these and the rest will be the policies that have long been a part of the Conservative core ideology.

It was a long-time policy of the New England Patriots to "score touchdowns" and "win lots of games." It was part of their "core ideology." Fortunately, a superior tactician named Bill Belichick arrived and showed them how to actually win. But let's not forget to credit all of his loser predecessors who totally kinda wanted to win.

The thing that bothered me about Richard was not the Roman Salutes. It was his articles kept sounding like I had happened on the Blaze and not Radix, constant NeverTrumper talking points, that could have been coming from Cruz at that time. (Before the nomination).

Your strawman-fu is weak. We've never condemned the conservative and libertarian citizens who are wising up. Many of us were they at one time. If you're among that number and you feel condemned, you're taking something personally that you shouldn't.

Wasn't intended as a fu.

I'm reading through the comments, seeing lots of condemnation of conservatives, and got the impression all conservatives were being condemned.

Maybe true for some. If not true for you, great.

Under your "we condemn", I think we're somewhat on the same page.

Condemn the conscious liars, the conscious sell outs, and those more eager for approval that they'll cave at the first "Racist!" shriek.

But I think you're being a little tough on those who condemn the Alt-Right. The terms mean however they are used. Most people can't distinguish between white supremacists and Nazis, let alone white ethno nationalists. They didn't invent the word. They think it means guys with ovens who want to put people in them.

I'm not Alt-Right. I'm more Alt-Lite. But I recognize the Alt-Right is a species of ethnostate nationalism that just about every nation state in the world practices. It's a perfectly reasonable opinion, and it's up to the Alt-Lite to argue for any deviation from it.

Cail Corishev wrote:And to try to get ahead of it: note that Frashman is a new name, but probably not a new commenter.Hmm. According to xkcd.com/now , that was a bit early for the Mumbai troll sweatshop; they weren't even putting their Fair & Lovely on for the day yet.

Don't touch the poop.Some people have a thing for scat. It's amazing how much we've all learned in the past six months.

Buybuydandavis wrote:They think it means guys with ovens who want to put people in them.No, that would be the Podesta family.

Frashman wrote:Conservatives completely dominate the GOP and who in turn dominate the majority of state governments. In addition, there is nary a single "Identity" politician on the right in Washington, DC and not many more in the hinterlands. The Tea Party, a hard right conservative constituency may not be organized, but they continue to form the core of the GOP.The problem is that, while Conservatives form the core of the GOP, they do not form the leadership of the GOP.

Frashman wrote:Over the next 6 months you will see a bevy of long time conservative policy initiatives introduced in Congressed from lower taxes to anti-abortion laws to deregulation to property rights to relinquishing of federal lands. All of these and the rest will be the policies that have long been a part of the Conservative core ideology.Those are all great. My taxes are too high, yes, please lower them. But high taxes are not the problem in this country. Abortion must be eliminated yes, but the GOP won't, can't, eliminate it. Deregulation is needed, faster please, but excessive regulation is not the problem in this country. Divesting federal lands, well, okay, I guess. But federal ownership of land is not the problem in this country.

These are all fine, but beside the point.The problem in this country is that we are losing the country. If nothing is done, Americans will be a minority within 10 years. Rule of law has become a literal JOKE, the political elite, the rich, and the medial industry are simply immune from law. They can do anything they wish and nothing will ever be done about it.

If fixing that means I have to put up with more regulation, higher taxes, increased federal ownership of land, and the status quo on abortion (which the GOP will not, cannot, do anything about), then I can live with it.Hell, the increase in income I would enjoy if they threw the parasitic infestation of Hindus and Pakis out of the country would more than make up for the increased taxes.So, until the GOP wants to introduce legislation to reclaim the country, re-establish the rule of law, and defund the cultural Marxists, they can get fucked. Let me know when that legislation hits Senate, so I can laugh as the reliably feckless GOP once again sabotages it.

@Ominous Cowherd"Cicatrizatic, can you give me some links to document this Trotskyite->neocon progression?"

It's hard to believe at first, given the amount of chutzpah involved, if you don't know the story. Off the top of my head, the elder (((Podhoretz))), and the elder (((Kristol))), were Trots in their youth, along with many of the other original neocons. Even the more goyishe ones-- look up who Jeanne Kirkpatrick's thesis adviser was.

A somewhat humorous explication of the Trot-neocon relationship can be found in a combination of two articles. This one lays out the connection: http://www.prisonplanet.com/trotskys_ghost_wandering_the_white_house.htm

This one, published by the Neocon Review, and written by (((Steven Schwartz))), a neocon and former Trotskyite himself, is a "refutation" of the original article. Comically, after a promising start, Schwartz is unable to restrain his impulse to lambaste those Stalinist heretics, and ends by swearing his unwavering allegiance to ol' Lev Bronstein:"To my last breath, I will defend the Trotsky who..."

@pyrrhus"Traitors have always been correctly regarded as more dangerous than a declared enemy"

Corneliu Codreanu:"The first and fiercest punishment ought to fall first on the traitor, second on the enemy. If I had but one bullet and I were faced with both an enemy and a traitor, I would let the traitor have it."

But I think you're being a little tough on those who condemn the Alt-Right.

And I was being polite. I'm talking about people who knowingly tried to sell out our country (unlike liberals, they can't claim they didn't know how bad Hillary was) over their personal dislike for a candidate, who called us everything from fools to baby-killers simply because we disagreed with their assessment of the man (and we've now been proven right), who followed their defeat by telling us to "get over it" and claiming the right to tone-police the victors. And now their latest bit of butthurt asshattery: teaming up with leftists to mischaracterize an abuse victim's pain and confusion as advocacy for child rape, so they could high-five each other over an empty victory over a man who helped save their nation from their own stupidity.

If they want me to stop being pissed off and let bygones be bygones, they're doing a real bad job of convincing me.