There used to be traces of what the local Maori called 'stonebuilders' in New Zealand - according to Maorio myth and legend they were people with a pale complexion who had yellow or orange hair...and they built with stone....

One of the most famous examples of this archaeology is a large stone city in the middle of a forest in the north island - currently being ignored and they want to bulldoze it to make a tourist centre.

Convenient.

Wouldn't want the history books to have to be re-written now, would we?

Why hide this? What could they possibly be finding that drives them to destroy such a marvelous site?

----------It seems so intellectually-primitive that our modern scientific community cannot wrap their mind around any ancient "pre-historical" finding which is contrary to common knowledge. They should be embracing this with relief, to have one more piece of our 'puzzle' found.

There used to be traces of what the local Maori called 'stonebuilders' in New Zealand - according to Maorio myth and legend they were people with a pale complexion who had yellow or orange hair...and they built with stone....

One of the most famous examples of this archaeology is a large stone city in the middle of a forest in the north island - currently being ignored and they want to bulldoze it to make a tourist centre.

Convenient.

Wouldn't want the history books to have to be re-written now, would we?

"... It is also a significant departure from anything seen within recent eras of Maori culture. The ancient inhabitants (the Stone-people), when under siege from the Maori warriors, hid a lot of their most precious possessions in rivers or swamp/ wetlands...greenstone items...ornately carved panels, etc in the hope of being able to return and retrieve them later."

=======Thank you for introducing me to this!

I find it curious that the consensus is that heavy stone objects would be stashed in a river or swamp for safe-keeping. To me, it seems more plausible that the location these items is a consequence of some severe earth movement in ancient times, for I doubt even early man would consider an oft-raging river or perilous swamp a secure location for safekeeping.

There used to be traces of what the local Maori called 'stonebuilders' in New Zealand - according to Maorio myth and legend they were people with a pale complexion who had yellow or orange hair...and they built with stone....

One of the most famous examples of this archaeology is a large stone city in the middle of a forest in the north island - currently being ignored and they want to bulldoze it to make a tourist centre.

Convenient.

Wouldn't want the history books to have to be re-written now, would we?

I saw a documentary that showed all the destruction the American invasion had done there. They stood by and watched as antiquities were looted from the museum and often found them being trying to be snuck back into the country by those stationed there. They showed an air base built by an old temple that was shaking apart every time the plane took off. And Syria? It's been bombed to shreds in part and it is one of the most ancient places.

Another thing is, the people they are killing left and right are, some of them, descended from people that have been inhabitin these areas since the beginning, and have ancient dnA haplogroups that are rare and unusual and should be protected also.

Meltwater pulse 1A was an instance in the sea level rise of about 20 m in less than 500 years,[1] perhaps just 200 years.[2]

The residence location of the Navel Mount builders was the wide valley just beneath the T-shaped monoliths,in the town of Harran. definitely ante diluvian culture.

have to dig deeper than 20 meters to get past thousands of years of mud layers

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This is a very interesting chart, AC.

Years ago as a child, I lived in a house on the north shore of the island of Jamaica. Just feet from our veranda, under the waters just beyond the beach, there rose from the sand two stone steps near the margin of the sea, where I would sometimes sit musing for hours, as if it were my own personal pool.

This property rests somewhere east-range, in a large, rambling, almost imperceptible lazy bay, where a run-off stream would sometimes swell after rains, carrying debris, old coconuts, and, sometimes a random drowned animal out to sea's edge.

Right beyond the continuing sand on the other side of this 'off and on river' rose a high cliff, perhaps of some 40-50 feet height, where a neighbor's house looked out over the Caribbean.

About one-third to half-way up this cliff wall were a series of carved out stairs which continued to the top.

At first, I considered that it was some long ago access for a docked ship, yet, as I became older, I realized that this did not seem realistic, considering the shallowness of the area.

Yet, as there was a breech in the reef nearby, navigation may have been possible a long time ago when the sea level must surely have been higher.

Your map places this era some six to ten thousand years ago!

Of course, this was all VERY contrary to those two steps that lie just under the water, which, if they were just the top two steps of some buried series, would indicate an much lower sea level at some other time in history. This would have been a time when sea levels were much lower than they are now.

It is a dichotomy that still allures me to this day. If the steps on the cliff cannot date back to a more modern buccaneer time, then there's a strong chance that the Arawaks circa 900 A.D. were NOT the first peoples in the Caribbean.