In this week’s episode of REWIND, we go inside the quiet beef between Jay-Z and Timbaland, which many didn’t even know existed.

In a recent interview with Diddy’s new music channel, Revolt TV, longtime Jay-Z producer Timbaland explained how he came to reconnect with Jigga to work on his new album, Magna Carta… Holy Grail.

“Me and Jay fell out,” Timbaland explained. “I missed his 40th [birthday]. It was over petty stuff. It was more personal stuff and disagreements. It was not industry related, it was more personal and I was wrong.”

Rahman Dukes of Revolt TV, who conducted the interview with Timbaland, weighed in on the beef, which he could sense before he sat down with the superstar producer.

“I was pretty much aware that something had existed,” Dukes explained. “Something happened in between the time when The Blueprint 3 came out and when Timbaland dropped that ‘We Off That’ track producing Drake. He alluded that it might have something to do with his own personal behavior and a dark place he was in at the time.”

Also on deck in this episode: Are big corporate sponsors like Samsung, who partnered with Jay-Z for MCHG, the future of the music biz? Dukes seems to think so. “There’s been a number of talks between a lot of artists about aligning with big corporate sponsors,” he said. “This is definitely the way to go because this is what the public wants.”