The truth is this whole 'feminism' debate only seems to exist online anyway. It's keyboard warriors vs keyboard warriors. I've never seen anything anywhere near as extreme, at both ends of the scale, happen in real life. Ok there's the odd rape etc, but there are also muggings, fights, harassment etc towards everyone anyway. I was 'sucker headbutted' on Tuesday night by a drunk guy at 3am whose sole intention was to be angry towards anyone in the vicinity. He was then knocked spark out by someone else. I'd say violent, binge drinking culture is just as serious as anything else, but nobody will pipe up about that because it doesn't involve the persecution of a minority.

I'm bored of the male guilt thing. And I'm especially bored of being told my opinion is invalid because I haven't 'experienced' it or whatever. I was accused of condoning rape (in an online debate of course - these accusations never come out in real life) because I argued it's not as big of an issue as it's made out to be (how many of us actually know a rapist or rape victim, seriously), and I argued that a culture of fear is the most unhealthy aspect of society, so why do they promote it?

The very term feminist is anti equality, egalitarian is equality if I remember my bullshit labels correctly.
Agree with Stink, been reading a fair bit into it recently and there seems to be a large array of screaming misandrist harpies who wouldn't know equality if it bitch-slapped them back to the 1900s. What really galls though is their seeming lack of compassion or interest for the women suffering under genuine oppression as it doesn't fit their agenda of Western white patriarchal oppression.

And what about the white knight feminists? Some funny reading about those that fell from grace.____________________Honda Varadero >> Triumph Speed Four >> Honda CBR1100xx

Im perfectly happy to have the notion that women are inherently superior to men in all ways, thereby meaning all men are effectively disabled and so I can qualify for some state disability benefits.____________________Remember, in some way every day you can do something even in a small way to make this world a shittier place for other people.

If I was to tune an engine, I would start off by removing any artificial restrictions. Then I would look at forced induction. Then I would get into head work and messing around with the fuel injection.

At this point I have doubled my output. I am now moving into the land of diminishing returns, where to make an increase in power output I will have to spend a lot of money, and compromise on something else - it could reliability, a narrow power band, weight.

Feminism has hit diminishing returns. Fringe groups looking to make an improvement in one area must sacrifice something else - generally the stability and image of the entire feminism banner. Arguments must be completely over the top to attempt to achieve a minor change. The evidence base is shaky, so anyone challenging it is shouted down, which adds to the evidence base acting against their chosen objective.

Its a shame, because amongst all the noise there are some worthy things. Breastfeeding in public comes to mind, something which is currently becoming a bit of an issue in America due to them being 40 years behind Europe. Women's rights in the Middle East and large parts of Afrcia, which are medieval.

But progress is being held up by people who think feminism should be taking an everyday object, holding it up as a symbol of white patriarchy, then getting wound up.

Just let them get on with it. They'll ruin it for themselves eventually.

Once they find themselves getting destroyed in divorce cases, having to work for an extra five years and having to stand next to someone of questionable character to urinate in a public lavatory they'll realise it's not all roses.____________________Greetings from Shitsville!

Just let them get on with it. They'll ruin it for themselves eventually.

Once they find themselves getting destroyed in divorce cases, having to work for an extra five years and having to stand next to someone of questionable character to urinate in a public lavatory they'll realise it's not all roses.

This is why they seem to hate transexuals and the whole gender fluid argument, feminists now want to be the top dog, but if there is no gender so to speak, they cannot push their anger on everyone

My experience of the feminist lot is that they totally take these sorts of people in as well. Or at least they're the ones that grate on me the most - the ones who support literally every single possible minority 'rights' campaign there is (which I suppose is fine) but at the same time they aggressively shout down all those who don't fit into their special sympathy boxes. So mainly cis white hetero males*.

*(It amazes me that the term I've just used there even exists. The fact they can argue about gender fluidity while at the same time create, and use, such a label makes absolutely no sense and is pretty much counter to their own apparent ideal of allowing everyone to be whatever they want).

This is why they seem to hate transexuals and the whole gender fluid argument, feminists now want to be the top dog, but if there is no gender so to speak, they cannot push their anger on everyone

My experience of the feminist lot is that they totally take these sorts of people in as well. Or at least they're the ones that grate on me the most - the ones who support literally every single possible minority 'rights' campaign there is (which I suppose is fine) but at the same time they aggressively shout down all those who don't fit into their special sympathy boxes. So mainly cis white hetero males*.

*(It amazes me that the term I've just used there even exists. The fact they can argue about gender fluidity while at the same time create, and use, such a label makes absolutely no sense and is pretty much counter to their own apparent ideal of allowing everyone to be whatever they want).

It's a ranty video about a guy who happily lets his wife go out and sleep with other men, and he wrote about it for New York Magazine.

The comments are partially correct - if a guy is content with his wife going out and doing that, then who is anyone to judge...

I guess the thing that gets to me is that these ideas are being promoted by major publications. Does anyone really think society would be better if every woman could go out and sleep with whoever she pleases (keep in mind it's far easier for any woman to get sex), while men have to continue with the same uphill struggle they've been dealing with for aeons? I believe slut-shaming is more than a modern social construct. It's a social evolutionary measure of some sort. The simple fact that most men and women have a negative opinion on sleeping around is proof enough that it's more than some male-enforced patriarchy nonsense.

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