<div dir="ltr"><div>Spinach wrote,</div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333015441895px">nice to know victims of sexual assault now equal babies. many of us aren't friends, there's no rapport, there's no familiarity, incidents of assault have happened multiple times and harassment has been a lot more common than that -- that's an actively hostile space, and these are jokes at the expense of victims which only justify the further depersonification of all women who come to hack.</span><br>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333015441895px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333015441895px">In response,</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333015441895px">Au contraire, many of us are friends, some are male, there is rapport and should be more of it, and some are more outspoken than others. And I've kind of been wanting to start like The Avengers or something, just think about it, we don't have to argue. Forewarning, a lot of us don't call ourselves victims (just because of the stigma attached to the word), and I know I make really fucked up jokes; can't help it, it's like Tourette's. There's a Noisebridger who would say (Norman Bradley, I sure hope it's alright that I quote him), "The reason why so many comedians got into stand-up was because they couldn't afford group therapy." Which is my assumption as to why people make these kinds of jokes, it's a Freudian PTS-slip. School was way more rape culture than Noisebridge, at least where I went to school. The jokes are a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself. Treating a symptom but not the problem is problematic and squelches the free speech of our demographic and makes people who seem very obviously just like us in that aspect ashamed for having ever spoken of it.</span></div>
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