Thanks for digging up those figures. They certainly make the case when it comes to horribly disproportionate commitments from the so-called coalition.<br><br>I'd bring up some contrary points for you since it doesn't appear anyone is going to challenge either of our points here, but devil's advocate is a hard case to argue for here reasonably. In lieu of that, I have a picture:<br><br><br><br>-- Charlie Alpha Roger Yankee Whiskey<br>

Poly, you should just change your name to StrawMan.<br><br>Dean Davis<br><br>-----<br>"I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein. And when the president made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him." -- John Kerry (D) - May 3, 2003

How is my first post a straw-man argument? My reply to the long list of coerced and bribed countries is to point out how little commitment all of these countries made. The cruelest but most accurate way of measuring a war commitment is to measure the height of the pile of coffins for each country. One could get a more accurate measure by polling the populace of these countries, none of which would poll a majority for joining Bush's mistake. But polling is subjective while dead soldiers are not.<br><br>My second post I could not make a connection to a straw-man since I give no argument at all but only throw some monkey [censored] back over the fence. Impolite but since this is the political forum, heads up! Incoming!<br><br>Do you know what a straw-man is?<br><br><br><br><br>luciferase is a four nineteener

Since it was your first post I was replying to let's focus there...<br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>How many in this thread would gladly send their countrymen to their deaths but when it comes time to sign up what do they do?<p><hr></blockquote><p>Here is what I think you are implying (i.e. what I'm inferring). Your statement, restated with my inference is this...<br>"If one professes a belief in the Iraq war and doesn't sign up to actually fight in that war then that person is a hypocrite and possibly a coward."<br><br>So, before I go on how you respond to what I have inferred?<br><br>Dean Davis<br><br>-----<br>"I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein. And when the president made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him." -- John Kerry (D) - May 3, 2003

You in the cheap seats too? Yes, I am afraid that is what I meant although I am mistakenly pointing out the wrong monkey. Bush is the real piece of monkey [censored] who fits the description of chicken hawk perfectly. A rah rah cheer leader who thinks he is starting a war which is going to make him a hero but when it becomes a huge mistake and the fingers are being pointed he says he can't think of one mistake he has made. Someone who relishes the wearing of the uniform but avoids the fight and goes AWOL instead. But I will stop there to keep from being accused of creating a straw-man out of a man made of straw.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>luciferase is a four nineteener

That's entirely different than what I thought when I read that. I thought of Bush as a warmongering president that when faced with the threat of having to fight as a soldier himself took the easy road set up by his dad. But, of course, that explanation doesn't fit the initial subject of the thread.<br><br>

What's really offensive is that 2/3 of those countries have either suffered no losses or don't even have troops in Iraq, yet you list them all regardless ... pretty callous and lazy of you considering those who *have* lost their lives ...<br><br>***matt<br><br>Turn up the signal, wipe out the noise ...

I guess I don't get it. If we're "going it alone" as many seem to contend, like John Kerry, then why is there even one death outside of US forces? While I wasn't looking did someone redefine the word coalition?<br><br>Dean Davis<br><br>-----<br>"I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein. And when the president made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him." -- John Kerry (D) - May 3, 2003

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