Aotea, Arthur, Caldwell, Coker 983, Double Crop, Ga 1123, Glenwari, Granada, Hardired, H-44, Lawrence, Redcoat, Redman, Renown, Selpek, Sensor, Sicco, Spica, and Warigo came from Hope, a 6X/4X hybrid derivative, but there is no clear evidence that Aguila, Bert, Boxer, Carimulti, Cariplus, Crossbow Dolomit, Falke, Flanders, Ibis, Kormoran, Kraka, Kristall, Markant, Mercia, Milan, Mission, Parade, Reiher, Rektor, Rothwell Perdix, Severin, Sicco, Sperber, Tukan, Urban, and Wattines are Hope derivatives. If Pm5 is derived from T. dicoccum via Hope and H-44, it would be interesting to confirm this with pedigrees. Also, it would be interesting to know if members of the latter group possess Lr14a and Sr17, which are commonly associated with Pm5 in the first group (9441).