Steely Dan: "I Think Somebody Took Over the Kanye West Personality Paradigm"

Donald Fagan and Walter Becker, the duo that make up the classic rock band Steely Dan, have a reputation for being a tough interview. When I took part in a teleconference with a dozen other reporters where Steely Dan was promoting their Summer/Fall tour Mood Swings 2013: 8 Miles To Pancake Day, I learned they were not cantankerous. Rather, they run an absurdist Abbot and Costello routine in response to any question they didn't deem worthy of their time. I listened to them make mincemeat of reporters from other esteemed papers and the Miami Herald.

This made sense. The jazz-rock combo just demands the same perfection from journalists as they do from their own sound. For their 1981 album, Gaucho, they used 42 different studio musicians, 11 engineers, and took over a year to record.

The moderator told us to keep our questions about the music, so my first draft about drug abuse, therapy, and if they keep in touch with Chevy Chase (their one time drummer) ended up in the wastebasket. New Times readers deserve the best, so here's one man's attempt to get something of interest out of Steely Dan, masters of the non-answer.

New Times: I'm excited to hear how excited you guys are in the interview. You have a reputation for not enjoying interviews too much.

Donald: We're having a ball.

Walter: That was just a bum rap. I don't know what it is. They can't accept the fact...

Donald: It's the internet. It's punk music man. Do you know what it is? It's Bloomberg.

Walter: And Lindsay before that... Lindsay.

Talking about newfangled things like the internet, are there modern musicians that you guys are enjoying right now, or younger musicians that you guys are enjoying?

Walter: Yes, I love guys like Charlie Parker. He was only 35 when he died so most of his work was almost like new.

Is there anyone alive in 2013 you guys like?

Walter: I still like Charlie Parker. You're not going to talk me out of that.

Donald: Tony Rhodes is still going strong and he's 84. Actually, there's a few things. I like Norah Jones. Have you heard of her?

Sure, she's great.

Donald: But I don't think she's contemporary anymore, right?

Walter: That's a crusher running right there for Norah Jones.

Donald: Well, Walter played me something I liked the other day, it was on YouTube. It was Carl Sagan (an astronomer who died in the 1990s) and it was a song about the cosmos. What was it called?

Walter: I can't remember.

Donald: Something about a glorious something.

Walter: Right, right.

Donald: It was good.

Walter: Yes, that is good. I think it's one of those things...

Donald: It was digitally altered...

Walter: Yes, but... are great. Actually, he has a guest star by the name of Stephen Hawking. Does that happen to ring a bell for you? Do you remember the name, Steve Hawking?

Sure. How about Kanye West? I read in an interview that he wrote a letter to you guys to get permission to use one of your songs. Do you mind going into that at all?

Donald: Well, what happened is, from time to time, we get requests for license for hip-hoppers to use part of an old song or something. So, we got a clip of something from Kanye West wanting to use a piece of "Kid Charlemagne" and we thought it was... We usually say yes, but we didn't like the general curve of the way that one sounded so we said...

Walter: Also, he was using a line of the vocal over and over again of Donald's vocal, which...

Donald: We thought it was just too repetitive.

Walter: Usually, you don't give them samples with your voice on them.

Donald: But then he sent us a handwritten letter which, it was so heartfelt, that we finally gave in and acceded to his request.

Walter: Yes. He basically said that this was a song that meant a lot to him. It was written about his father and his feelings for his father and...

Donald: I didn't get that at all from the music, but...

Walter: No, I've had occasion to wonder since then whether that's the same Kanye West.

Donald: Maybe it was a prank.

Walter: It could have been. I think somebody took over the Kanye West personality paradigm and has been operating it randomly.

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David Rolland is a freelance music writer for New Times Broward-Palm Beach and Miami New Times. His mornings are spent educating his toddler daughter on becoming a music snob. His spare time is spent dabbling in writing fiction and screenplays whose subjects are mostly music snobs.