After #6 the order gets a little shakier, but it was still fun ranking all 22

1. Casino Royale: Completely changed the franchise for me by making characters I cared about, and cracked my Top 25 favorite films2. Goldfinger: The quintessential Bond film, with the best henchman and many of most quotable lines.3. From Russia with Love: Works completely as a Le Carre style Cold War thriller in addition to being a superior Bond film4. OHMSS: The occasional stiffness of Lazenby and a major continuity error are the only things which mar this entry.5. The Spy Who Loved Me: Perfectly encapsulates how fun the series can be6. Dr. No: Set the template for the series, and holds up quite well on its own7. For Your Eyes Only: Bond came back to earth nicely in this solid, low-key entry in the series8. The Living Daylights: An underrated entry in the series, the first entry for Dalton is very enjoyable all the way through9. Tomorrow Never Dies: The most complete Brosnan, TND also benefits from a wonderful villain in Jonathon Pryce10. Quantum of Solace: A come-down after Casino Royale, but not as bad as some maintained11. Live and Let Die: Bond-cum-blaxploitation, it sags a little in the middle but has some colorful sets and villains12. Goldeneye: Long on action and short on logic, but not without some charm13. You Only Live Twice: The ninja assault climax is well-executed, but the film is borderline racist and has dated poorly14. Die Another Day: A nice attempt to harden the series and look back at the previous films, but sadly not a very good film15. Licence to Kill: An unholy mix of hard edges with familiar hokum (the truck does a wheelie!) that doesn't work16. Octopussy: Unoriginal even by the series's standards, with Roger Moore beginning to phone it in17. Moonraker: The sheer amount of ridiculousness (Holly Goodhead?) is kinda amusing, but the movie kinda sucks18. A View to a Kill: A rehash of better films, with Moore looking really long in the tooth19. Thunderball: It's fitting that Thunderball took place underwater, for here the series first jumped the shark20. Diamonds are Forever: Yes it has Sean Connery, but it doesn't have anything else21. The World is not Enough: I like the concept of a villainess, but Denise Richards as a nuclear physicist ruins that22. The Man with the Golden Gun: Terrible henchman, annoying girl, toothless villain, overlong...a whole lot of suck

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Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:23 pm

DylnFan96818

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Re: Best Bond Films

JamesKunz wrote:

After #6 the order gets a little shakier, but it was still fun ranking all 22

1. Casino Royale: Completely changed the franchise for me by making characters I cared about, and cracked my Top 25 favorite films2. Goldfinger: The quintessential Bond film, with the best henchman and many of most quotable lines.3. From Russia with Love: Works completely as a Le Carre style Cold War thriller in addition to being a superior Bond film4. OHMSS: The occasional stiffness of Lazenby and a major continuity error are the only things which mar this entry.5. The Spy Who Loved Me: Perfectly encapsulates how fun the series can be6. Dr. No: Set the template for the series, and holds up quite well on its own7. For Your Eyes Only: Bond came back to earth nicely in this solid, low-key entry in the series8. The Living Daylights: An underrated entry in the series, the first entry for Dalton is very enjoyable all the way through9. Tomorrow Never Dies: The most complete Brosnan, TND also benefits from a wonderful villain in Jonathon Pryce10. Quantum of Solace: A come-down after Casino Royale, but not as bad as some maintained11. Live and Let Die: Bond-cum-blaxploitation, it sags a little in the middle but has some colorful sets and villains12. Goldeneye: Long on action and short on logic, but not without some charm13. You Only Live Twice: The ninja assault climax is well-executed, but the film is borderline racist and has dated poorly14. Die Another Day: A nice attempt to harden the series and look back at the previous films, but sadly not a very good film15. Licence to Kill: An unholy mix of hard edges with familiar hokum (the truck does a wheelie!) that doesn't work16. Octopussy: Unoriginal even by the series's standards, with Roger Moore beginning to phone it in17. Moonraker: The sheer amount of ridiculousness (Holly Goodhead?) is kinda amusing, but the movie kinda sucks18. A View to a Kill: A rehash of better films, with Moore looking really long in the tooth19. Thunderball: It's fitting that Thunderball took place underwater, for here the series first jumped the shark20. Diamonds are Forever: Yes it has Sean Connery, but it doesn't have anything else21. The World is not Enough: I like the concept of a villainess, but Denise Richards as a nuclear physicist ruins that22. The Man with the Golden Gun: Terrible henchman, annoying girl, toothless villain, overlong...a whole lot of suck

If I were to list them all, it would pretty much look like that, except probably swap TWINE and DAD.

Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:49 pm

Jeff Wilder

Director

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Re: Best Bond Films

My faves:

Connery

ThunderballGoldfingerFrom Russia WIth LoveYou Only Live Twice

Moore

Live And Let DieSpy Who Loved MeFor Your Eyes Only

Dalton

Living DaylightsLicense to Kill

Brosnan

GoldenyeTomorrow Never DiesThe World Is Not Enough

Weakest:

ConneryDiamonds Are Forever

MooreThe Man With The Golden GunMoonraker (Worst in the whole damn series

BrosnanDIe Another Day

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Live And Let Die, really? I always considered that one of the worst films in the series, because of it's dull action scenes(like James said, that boat chase is a real snoozer) weak villains, that annoying racist sheriff(whoever thought putting a character like him in a Bond film was a good idea should be shot), and the general stupidity(voodoo? oh boy that does reek of desperation from the screenwriters )

Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:56 pm

H.I. McDonough

Director

Joined: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:09 pmPosts: 1310

Re: Best Bond Films

Vexer wrote:

Live And Let Die, really? I always considered that one of the worst films in the series, because of it's dull action scenes(like James said, that boat chase is a real snoozer) weak villains, that annoying racist sheriff(whoever thought putting a character like him in a Bond film was a good idea should be shot), and the general stupidity(voodoo? oh boy that does reek of desperation from the screenwriters )

Finally, Vexer, something on which we agree. The whole 'Bond as blaxploitation flick' concept doesn't work here... and it isn't helped by the fact that the filmmakers are treating Moore as if he were Connery, which wasn't the case (they wouldn't fully lock into Moore's 007 persona until "The Spy Who Loved Me"). It features one of the weakest, most pathetically helpless heroines of all time, one of the blandest villains, and the most absurd death of said villain (even Goldfinger's death looked less silly by comparison). Honestly, Paul McCartney's theme song is the best thing about the movie. That said, I still prefer it over "The Man With the Golden Gun" and "A View to a Kill."

"NOT WORTH GIVING A CRAP ABOUT" TIERYou Only Live TwiceDiamonds Are ForeverLive and Let DieMoonrakerFor Your Eyes OnlyOctopussyA View to a KillThe Living DaylightsDie Another DayQuantum of Solace

Casino Royale below Goldeneye? Madness. Utter madness.

Yeah, and how is Man With The Golden Gun lower-mid tier? That's easily the WORST Bond film of all, it decends so far into outright lunacy that's it's not the least bit exciting or compelling.

Agree completely.

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Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:47 pm

Robert Holloway

Re: Best Bond Films

GoldfingerFrom Russia With LoveGolden EyeOHMSSCasino RoyaleThe Spy Who Loved MeDr.NoThunderball - would be top3 if someone edited 20 minutes of the underwater battleLicense To Kill

after that there's not much to care about

until the complete drossMoonrakerOctopussyView To A KillQuantum of Solace

Rob

Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:59 pm

Blonde Almond

Re: Best Bond Films

1. Goldfinger2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service3. Casino Royale4. From Russia With Love5. Thunderball6. You Only Live Twice7. Goldeneye8. Dr. No9. The Spy Who Loved Me10. License To Kill11. Tomorrow Never Dies12. For Your Eyes Only13. Diamonds Are Forever14. Moonraker15. The World Is Not Enough16. The Man With The Golden Gun17. Quantum Of Solace18. Live And Let Die19. A View To A Kill20. Octopussy21. The Living Daylights22. Die Another Day

Granted, I haven't seen several of these in quite a long time, but I think I still remember them well enough to argue their placements. On a related note, 14 of them are now available to stream instantly on Netflix. The first three Connerys, the Pierce Brosnans, and the Daniel Craigs are the only ones missing. I think now might be the time to revisit the series.

Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:52 pm

H.I. McDonough

Director

Joined: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:09 pmPosts: 1310

Re: Best Bond Films

1. "From Russia, With Love"2. "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" (Lazenby wasn't THAT bad -- in fact, I think he might've made the next 3 entries better movies than they were )3. "Goldfinger"4. "Doctor No"5. "The Spy Who Loved Me"6. "Moonraker" (don't get all the hate for this one -- it's actually quite funny)7. "Thunderball"8. "GoldenEye"9. "You Only Live Twice"10. "For Your Eyes Only"11. "Licence to Kill"12. "Diamonds Are Forever"13. "Die Another Day"14. "Tomorrow Never Dies"15. "The World Is Not Enough"16. "The Living Daylights" (the most overly earnest movie in the series)17. "Octopussy"18. "Live and Let Die"19. "The Man With the Golden Gun"20. "A View to a Kill"

I don't like lumping "Casino Royale" and "Quantum of Solace" in with these others since they make a deliberate attempt to start the series over from scratch. But, if pressed, I'd probably put "Casino" at #4 and "Quantum" at #12.

Anyone else ever read any of Ian Fleming's Bond novels or stories? I've read a few, and although they're somewhat old-fashioned now, they're better than the lower tier of the Bond movies (A View to a Kill, Moonraker, etc). In the case of Live and Let Die, it was used for 3 movies - the one of the same name, plus pieces of it show up in Licence to Kill and a scene in For Your Eyes Only. The book's heavy on the racism, though - Casino Royale or the short stories are better starting points.

ON License To Kill we agree. I always though Timothy Dalton was a better Bond than Roger Moore. He looked more like him and he was truly dangerous. His portrayal of Bond as a flawed human worked quite well. THe only Bonds I'd rank ahead of him would be Connery and Craig.

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