Awesome!
There will be another Rally on February 8th at every state capitol.
https://www.facebook.com/events/406312512782872/

January 19, 2013 at 6:49pm

Mil-Dot responded:

The two guys standing in front of the capitol in Idaho with the scoped high-powers said it all.

January 19, 2013 at 6:55pm

barber2 responded:

VALERIE: Please say "hi" to Mary with her bra and Claire with her wan-ser. Did the Obama Media machine just get a new infusion of Soros bucks ? Or maybe this is an out-reach from the new Obama "Organizing For Action " group ?! You guys sure are busy Trolling today...

January 19, 2013 at 7:18pm

CathyvanDyke responded:

LisaLake
'Guns Across America' rallies against stricter gun control draw hundreds
Jan 19, 2013 @ 05:22 PM
Police in Connecticut said about 1,000 people showed up on the capitol grounds in Hartford, about 50 miles from the site of last month's mass shooting at Newtown's Sandy Hook Elementary School.
http://www.pjstar.com/free/x1926911575/Guns-Across-America-rallies-against-stricter-gun-control-draw-hundreds

January 19, 2013 at 7:21pm

LadyGOP responded:

Did anyone happen to go to their local gunstore today..? They are PACKED with people buying handguns, rifles, assault rifles, everything. They had boxes lined up on the counter and the floor of people's orders that were being picked up. And so much for the angry white male. You'd be surprised at how many women are in there.
Obama's economy is terrible except for one area: firearms sales. It's booming. So the exact opposite effect of what the Commies had hoped for. Americans are armed to the teeth.
And as Alex Jones said.... It doesnt matter how many lemmings you have out on the street begging you for them to have there guns taken. We will not relinguish them. Do you understand ?

They are not cowards or afraid of each other. They do not trust the government. That is clear.

January 19, 2013 at 7:35pm

Independent4233 responded:

It's photos like these that keep me in the fight.
Fight on, guys.
There are millions of us out here to support you to the death.

January 19, 2013 at 7:41pm

AmericaMustBeFree responded:

ENCINOM You are a complete joke! You haven't a clue what the 2nd Amendment is about! Why do you think AMerica came to be... because peoplewere tired of being told how to live by tyrant Kings.. who they could worship.. Your a complete fool when it comes to knowing how a dictator comes into power! And America will not be ruled by a dictator or a tyrant.

January 19, 2013 at 7:41pm

pissantno.10 responded:

encino were afraid of you. the people like you who would sell your mother for dollar . just so you would not have a days work

ENCIMOM
Cowards seek to disarm the law abiding citizens of this country, cowards ignore the real issues of gun crime in order to weaken the strength of the individual and freedom.

January 19, 2013 at 8:07pm

Kumo responded:

@LADYGOP Aye, my Father-In-Law and I headed up to our local Gander Mountain and Academy Sports today to show our support. Folks from all walks of life and ethnic backgrounds were in there, White, Black, Hispanic and Asian. Further proof that pro 2nd Amendment and NRA folks are not racist.
Found out though that there is a 6 month wait for an AR-15 now, last month they still had plenty in stock.

Encinom opposes liberty with a brilliant mix of ad hominem and ignorance!
I oppose anybody, of any gender, any color, any culture, any socioeconomic status, and any spiritual/aspiritual belief system that opposes freedom and liberty. Savvy?

January 19, 2013 at 8:39pm

banjarmon responded:

If I had not had to work I would have been at the one in Brooksville FL! My thought and prayers were with all that attended!

January 19, 2013 at 8:48pm

Newtowns-Third-Law responded:

Encinom, just be still, do not disrespect JOB Creators. Since that GUN CONFISCATOR took office, "scary looking" rifle sales have sky rocketed - even for low quality knock-offs and 3D-printed armaments. The industry and middlemen and ad hoc entrepreneurs are spinning fear into Gold, and Guns are helping re-build the Obama-Conomy. So just be cool.
We know the Black helicopters will not take away our weapons, otherwise we would never buy them. Why waste money? This is just an investment in soon to be cherished antiques after new manufacturing is banned.

January 19, 2013 at 8:56pm

the-most-interesting-troll-in-the-world responded:

I don't always protest against imaginary incursions on the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America, but when I do, I prefer to be as offensive and vitriolic as possible, to leave the absolutely worst impression on the undecideds and moderates who are horrified about Sandy Hook.
Stay salt of the earth, my frightened radical friends.

January 19, 2013 at 9:06pm

Keatonc333 responded:

wow! 4,500! thats like one eighth of the average attendance of a royals vs. mariners game!

January 19, 2013 at 9:07pm

VanZorge responded:

love it

January 19, 2013 at 9:07pm

michaelmoron responded:

The A.P. S#@KS !
Reuters S#@kS TOO !!!
You can go google image gun rallies, and see plenty of pictures of women and black people carrying at these events.
I typed in 'OPEN CARRY GUN RALLY' and saw all walks of life.

January 19, 2013 at 9:29pm

republitarian responded:

The pics from NY make it look small. There were probably 3,000. I've never seen so many Gadsens in one place.

January 19, 2013 at 9:35pm

American Soldier (Separated) responded:

It will be a cold day in hell before I give up my guns.
I do not trust our government, whether it's a Democrat or Republican in office, in ANY federal office.
Our founding fathers included the 2nd amendment knowing the future generations will one day have to FIGHT for their freedoms just as they had just finished doing.
That time will happen within our lifetime, I know it.

January 19, 2013 at 9:36pm

SUNTZU responded:

I took my Kimber 45 out to lunch,Does that
count for anything.
Open carry WV ,got to love it...

January 19, 2013 at 9:37pm

jeffersonian1776 responded:

Somebody please remind Encemen who exactly it was that brought on their legions of attornies to represent free black Americans in the late 19th century, who were verboten from owning or possesssing firearms. Oh yeah, that was the NRA. But to people like Encemen, they would have others believe that the NRA are only a right-wing extremist, white supremacist, vile hate group. Just like Obama mandating that West Point study these Domestic Terrorist groups, where you are automatically marginalized into these terror factions if one believes in limited and/or small govrnment, or they are a constitutionalist, and even if you admire such dangerous radicals like John Hancock, George Mason, Jefferson, Patrick Henry, etc..., I'm quite certain that the Encemens of the world take relish in the thought of having us, his political enemies, being criminalized with the stroke of a pen for nothing more than owning a gun, or viewed as terrorists because we just aren't forward thinking enough like the commie libs are. Simply because one believes that we should be a nation of laws versus a nation ruled by presidential fiat makes us a domestic terror threat. We are shunned from their "more civil" society as terrorists if we don't wish to be ruled by a president who passes his own laws by decree, without a pesky system of checks and balances to stop him. Yes, Encemen would love to see Obama's jackboot upon our throat. To people like him, Liberty is NOT the goal!

January 19, 2013 at 9:47pm

Newtowns-Third-Law responded:

I agree with the Moron, as usual. Firearm aficionados are SO diverse it is not even funny.
I stood at our State Capital today from 11:22 am to almost 3:00 pm and I saw mostly Hispanic individuals with shotguns and sidearms, orientals with mostly M-1 semi-automatic replicas, and Negroe-Citizens with everything imaginable including black powder muskets intermingled with Saturday Night Specials and Uzis.
When I got to the Rod & Gun club for canapes. we saw some French women shooting Beretta pistols.
This is the greatest country ever!

January 19, 2013 at 10:12pm

nesmond responded:

Don't pretend as if you care about tiny coffins, encino. You support the murders of 3,700 infants daily. Unfortunately they don't merit coffins. And as for calling these defenders of the Second Amendment cowards, they are out there showing there faces to the world. Being a vet myself, I can tell many of them are also Vets. How 'bout you? Have you ever done anything but than take from this country? I seriously doubt it. It seems to me that only takers want to change this government. That includes Hollywood and the MSM. All of them living in their insulated little worlds not having a clue what real life is all about. I hope all that changes real soon. All you little c**nts are due a wake up call.

January 19, 2013 at 10:19pm

SendTheMeteors responded:

I especially noticed the sign that says gun rights come from God. I am moved to quote scripture,
"And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. — Isaiah 2:3-4"
I didn't see any advocates of that biblical philosophy in this group. The opposite maybe.
I also saw the "what part of 'shall not be infringed' do you not understand." Heck there's a whole lot of infringement to the right to "bear arms" I'd like to see "infringed." I don't want Americans or anyone to have chemical or nuclear or biological arms. I want that so called "right" infringed. I don't want Walmart selling surface to air missiles or RPGs or fully automatic Rambo style machine guns.
Heck yeah, I want lots of infringements on the 2nd Amendment. I don't people to "bear arms" on an airplane, a bus or in my state capitol. I don't want people to have the right to "bear arms" at my local library or public park. I don't want to see a guy legally walking around with a shotgun anywhere I go.

January 19, 2013 at 10:31pm

LaTxGuy responded:

hell! now this is what i am talking about, Proud to be an AMERICAN! are you still Michelle

January 19, 2013 at 10:33pm

LaTxGuy responded:

Add your comments

January 19, 2013 at 10:37pm

LaTxGuy responded:

now this is what i am talking about! PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN!
wonder if Michele still feels the same

January 19, 2013 at 10:45pm

michaelmoron responded:

THE POLICE HAVE NO OBLIGATION TO PROTECT YOU
The Congress finds the following:
(1) Police cannot protect, and are not legally liable for failing to protect, individual citizens, as evidenced by the following:
(A) The courts have consistently ruled that the police do not have an obligation to protect individuals, only the public in general. For example, in Warren v. District of Columbia Metropolitan Police Department, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. App. 1981), the court stated: `[C]ourts have without exception concluded that when a municipality or other governmental entity undertakes to furnish police services, it assumes a duty only to the public at large and not to individual members of the community.’.
(2) Citizens frequently must use firearms to defend themselves, as evidenced by the following:
(A) Every year, more than 2,400,000 people in the United States use a gun to defend themselves against criminals–or more than 6,500 people a day. This means that, each year, firearms are used 60 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives.
(B) Of the 2,400,000 self-defense cases, more than 192,000 are by women defending themselves against sexual abuse.
(C) Of the 2,400,000 times citizens use their guns to defend themselves every year, 92 percent merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers. Less than 8 percent of the time, does a citizen kill or wound his or her attacker

January 19, 2013 at 10:50pm

marssnw responded:

@Encinom Nobody believed that Hiltler would take the Jews guns away and send them to a slaughterhouse, but it happened. The problem with people like Encinom is that they have never learned from history. They continue to live in fairytale land where Obama will give them section 8 housing and free money. Freedom isn't free and the second amendment is clear. Shall not be INFRINGED. What part of that statement do you not understand? Maybe you should grab a dictionary you Stalin loving/liberal d-o-u-c-h-e bag. You are apparently not bright enough to know when your freedoms are being stripped. Maybe living in Russia for a while would cure your backwards thinking.

January 19, 2013 at 10:58pm

marssnw responded:

@Sendthemoron Please don't quote scripture when it is clear you don't have a clue as to what that scripture is saying. You just make yourself look dumber than you really are. I really do fill embarassed for you
@EnSEMEN Typical race baiter. When you have no argument you run to the "Its the evil white man fault" argument. Don't you ever get tired of typing the same lame argument?

January 19, 2013 at 11:05pm

marssnw responded:

@meteors It says right to bear ARMS. Do you know what that means? It has nothing to do with chemical weapons or nuclear warheads. Your argument is null and void. Much like your president and your brain.

January 19, 2013 at 11:07pm

Mil Mom responded:

@encinom
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 9:40pm
Its fitting the Gun Nut cowards, clinging to their security blankets fly yellow flags. How many tiny caskets need to be filled before the gun nuts see reason?
***
How many even tinier little ones thrown into "Medical Waste" containers or left to die in dirty linen closets in Chicago and other major hospitals, until you pro abortionist nuts see reality and truly care about human life?

January 19, 2013 at 11:13pm

DarkJello responded:

Encinom is always good for a laugh.
He projects too much, and never ever uses logic.

January 19, 2013 at 11:26pm

Maji responded:

encinom...
Look at the parade of paranoid, ignorant, white America. Cowards, feed on lies by NRA and clutching their security blankets cause they are afraid of the other, who ever the fear mongers tell them the other is.
______________________________________________
So you're saying you were definitley there!
Good!
The crowd you were refering to was your family.

January 19, 2013 at 11:27pm

Mil Mom responded:

@sendthemeteors
re: Heck yeah, I want lots of infringements on the 2nd Amendment. I don’t people to “bear arms” on an airplane, a bus or in my state capitol. I don’t want people to have the right to “bear arms” at my local library or public park. I don’t want to see a guy legally walking around with a shotgun anywhere I go
***
So post all these places you love to go as "Gun free zones" and only the law abiding gun owners will keep their guns away. All the mass shootings prove the criminals seeking to do the most harm will consider them as a "safe target range" to practice their skills of evil because no one will be armed to come instantly to put a stop to it. DO A GOOGLE SEARCH OF " STOPPED BY A GUN" AND SEE HOW MANY CRIMES EVERY DAY ARE STOPPED >>BEFORE>> THEY BECOME MASS MURDERS BECAUSE A "GOOD GUY OR GAL" WAS ARMED! Oh well you're more likely to be hit in the head by a meteor than understand this truth. Sending them on to you.

January 20, 2013 at 12:05am

CloudNine responded:

@ Encinom –
Enema (aka Encinom) is offering “it’s” wisdom on the topic for today! I am always amazed at how your comments reflect such little intellectual capacity. Is it hard to breathe with your head up your “arse”? For those of you unfamiliar with this quack, ignore “it”. There’s never a relevant thought, comment or statement from Encinom’s input! Hey “Enema”, you still have that Rod Serling "Fathead" on your wall?

January 20, 2013 at 12:30am

sillyfreshness responded:

And you can bet our PC government had moles and spies infiltrating taking pics of these newly declared "terrorist" because they believe in the Constitution. Secession may be the ultimate answer.

January 20, 2013 at 12:40am

CHANGE IT BACK responded:

@SENDTHEMETEORS: You can take any scripture out of context you like. Here is a favorite of mine from Nehemiah 4:15-23 where Nehemiah was rebuilding the wall.
15 When our enemies heard that it was known to us aand that God had frustrated their plan, we all returned to the wall, each to his work. 16 From that day on, half of my servants worked on construction, and half held the spears, shields, bows, and bcoats of mail. And the leaders stood behind the whole house of Judah, 17 who were building on the wall. Those who carried burdens were loaded in such a way that each labored on the work with one hand and held his weapon with the other. 18 And each of the builders had his sword strapped at his side while he built. The man who sounded the trumpet was beside me. 19 And I said to cthe nobles and to the officials and to the rest of the people, “The work is great and widely spread, and we are separated on the wall, far from one another. 20 In the place where you hear the sound of the trumpet, rally to us there. Our God will fight for us.” 21 So we labored at the work, and half of them held the spears from the break of dawn until the stars came out. 22 I also said to the people at that time, “Let every man and his servant pass the night within Jerusalem, that they may be a guard for us by night and may labor by day.” 23 So neither I nor my brothers nor my servants nor the men of the guard who followed me, none of us took off our clothes; eeach kept his weapon at his rig

January 20, 2013 at 1:41am

Cavallo responded:

NRA more popular than Hollywood.
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/17/16567367-nbcwsj-poll-nra-more-popular-than-entertainment-industry?lite

January 20, 2013 at 2:18am

DixT responded:

That's TERRIFIC!

January 20, 2013 at 2:30am

Obama_In_PeePee_Is_Becks_Art responded:

"Americans Rally Nationwide Against Stricter Gun Control Measures"
"... what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it's natural manure."
-Thomas Jefferson (1787)
"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. ... But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
-The Declaration Of Independence
The 100 year subversion of Progressive communism is coming to a head, and marxist Obama and communist Washington DC are chomping at the bit to finally finish the job.
Saddle up!

January 20, 2013 at 2:36am

valiant1776 responded:

@BrainDeadAsAMeterRock That verse is talking about when our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ reigns upon the earth and sets up his Kingdom. I don't see him here yet.
"Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds. Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand; To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people; To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron; To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints." (Psalms 149:1-9)
Did you read that? Patriots are two have assault weapons in their hands to execute vengeance upon evil men and to bind tyrants to chains. God supports the Second Amendment.
Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.
"[W]hen the resolution of enslaving America was formed in Great Britain, the British Parliament was advised by an artful man, who was governor of Pennsylvania, to disarm the people; that it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them; but that they should not do it openly, but weaken them, and let them sink gradually.. I ask, who are the militia? They consist of now of the whole people, except a few public officers." - George Mason
"The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full possession of them." - Zacharia Johnson

January 20, 2013 at 4:57am

realindependent responded:

SPOILER ALERT..... A bunch of white men over 40 who think they look cool carrying assault weapons.

January 20, 2013 at 5:04am

Jarhead 88 responded:

You either stand with and love patriots or you lose. That's it.

January 20, 2013 at 6:05am

LIBSALWAYSLIE responded:

ENCINOM, you are a joke. Your posts are nothing but the delusional drivel of an ignorant, pathetic looser. You are the poster child for The Brainwashed Sheep Society (liberals).

January 20, 2013 at 7:36am

LadyGOP responded:

Its pretty funny how the Commies demonize the NRA. It is not some cult. It is a citizen group of gun enthusiasts across the country. These people NEVER advocate violence. In fact they believe guns in the right hands will prevent violence. Most of them want stricter enforcement of the laws and NEVER want guns to end up in the hands of criminals.
There is a real problem with the growing number of mentally ill people in this country for sure. There needs to be information on the DRUGS these shooters are using, Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRIs). This needs to be studied. Most of the shooters have been on these class of drugs and many of them do not even recall what they have done after the fact.
Can Antidepressants Cause Violence?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyPuE314SDQ

January 20, 2013 at 7:55am

LadyGOP responded:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08Lz_nRsiw4

January 20, 2013 at 8:02am

LadyGOP responded:

Increase in School Shootings Linked to Antidepressant Prescription Drugs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78lguSp0BXA

January 20, 2013 at 8:18am

SLAPTHELEFT responded:

It amazing to see our lefty friends here commenting about our love of gunpowder. I always laugh when I see people protesting their own freedom. What's the assigned taking point of the day? Usually whatever you see posted by encinom. Poor little sorostitute.
Encinom man, if you want to spend all of your govt check on star wars figures and dungeons and dragons posters, I have no problem with that. It's just that I like big boy toys. Boom sticks, heat and scary looking rifles. I like lasers and high powered scopes. High capacity mags and knockdown slugs.
You are allowed to do adult stuff. But you're probably a felon.

January 20, 2013 at 9:15am

poorrichard09 responded:

The people of America are voting with their feet and pocketbooks buying firearms for defense and getting concealed carry permits in RECORD numbers, and joining 2A groups like NRA and others.
This is a very good sign!

January 20, 2013 at 11:36am

SLAPTHELEFT responded:

Meteors
Too badso sad for you because I carry in your library, theatre, grocery store and any where else I damn well please. Don't worry, I don't carry it to protect you. You can just t.ell them you vote Obama.
I am the NRA.

January 20, 2013 at 11:57am

3-Blue responded:

That was a beautiful thing! We are united and will not back down. The left will no doubt enact their campaign of lies against us now. It's all they know how to do. But it doesn’t matter. We are organized. We are many and we are vocal. We will we will continue to give voice to the truth despite the lies of the filthy left. Gun control will not happen. Why should ‘I’ give up ‘my’ God given rights because ‘someone else’ breaks the law? It’s absurd. The least common denominator does not apply to the second amendment. Trolls need not apply.

January 20, 2013 at 12:04pm

Trigus responded:

If this was a liberal leftist event - the media would have reported 1 million plus at each State Capitol.
I call on the F.O.P. to call a National 1 Day "Blue Flu" to show Support for The 2nd Amendment, support for their State Constitution that says: Right to Bear Arms to Defend Himself or State shall not be infringed upon. California, Iowa, Maryland, Minnesota, New Jersey, and New York have no state Constitutional Provision.
Remember: The Supreme Court ruled that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm. Who will protect you?

January 20, 2013 at 12:23pm

SendTheMeteors responded:

marssnw says, "...@meteors It says right to bear ARMS. Do you know what that means?"
No, I guess I don't. Perhaps you can explain it to me. Why are "chemical arms" not "arms?" Because they weren't around in 1787? Neither were AR-15s. Where did you get your definition? From a 1700s dictionary?
Funny how you seem to know exactly what Founder's intended and how that applies to current weapons. Did they mean cop killer armor piercing bullets? Does it mean 100 round magazines but not belt fed fully automatic machine guns? Does it mean anything that fires a projectile through a barrel, like an RPG? What about bullets that explode on impact like the ones Hinkley used in his assassination attempt? (Sorry, those are now banned in violation of your 2nd Amendment)
Thanks for the flippant answer but it really doesn't mean much except that you imagine you know exactly what the Founders meant and how it applies today. We should just get rid of the Supreme Court and hire you.

January 20, 2013 at 12:41pm

Trigus responded:

@SENDinthemixbagofnutz - 10th Amendment - State Soverienty - There are only 6 states that have no articles in their State Constitution on the Right to Bear Arms - California, Iowa, Maryland, Minnesota, New Jersey, and New York.
The Rest of the States have articles in their Constitution, found under their Bill of Rights, The Right to Bear Arms to defend himself or State shall not be infringed.
So, your argument is flawed and States took the US 2nd Amendment and defined it further in their State Constitution. Thus, applying to today.
I asked this before: @Send - how much financial support do you receive from the government? When did your forefathers arrive in America? Facts Send - you never seem to quote a reputable source.
The light is turned on, the Giant is Awake, now go crawl back under the base boards.

January 20, 2013 at 1:14pm

guns-an-bibles responded:

However many that showed up at these rallies, there were far more that couldn't afford to take time off from work in order to attend, so, if the liberal elite think these small numbers are the only ones that believe in the second amendment, they might want to re-think!
WAY TO GO, PATRIOTS!

January 20, 2013 at 2:24pm

VanceUppercut responded:

Of course, these ignorant people are unaware of a few facts, the biggest one being that Obama is not trying to "ban guns".

January 20, 2013 at 2:28pm

The_Cabrito_Goat responded:

JZS aka Send The Meteors aka college professor said,
" Funny how you seem to know exactly what Founder’s intended and how that applies to current weapons. "
They also didn't intend for the First Ammendment to apply to computers, where people can discuss them through wordpress websites. Or through cellular telephones, or even the telegraph.
Does that mean we arrest people for using technology that didn't exist during the 18th century?
Wouldn't that be "reactionary" thinking, Professor? I thought you weren't like that.

January 20, 2013 at 2:54pm

Unix responded:

encinom and sendinthemeteors are clowns at the carnival, they try to be annoying, but all they are is odd. They are peculiar people and cannot critically think their way out of a wet paper bag. keep kicking the hornets nest, that'll get you places alright...the more you write on hear, then less respect I have for your kind, utterly ridiculous arguments, straw men they are!

January 20, 2013 at 3:34pm

valiant1776 responded:

@Meteors You've created a false premises and asserted questions on pure ignorance. “Arms” does not include whatever weapon the liberal mind can conceive. And “Militia” does not mean an actual military force. “Arms” means what the dictionary says it means:
(1828 definitions)
ARMS, n. plu. Weapons of offense or armor for defense and protection of the body.
Did you read that? It said for “the body”. You don’t need a submarine to protect your body. And you sure as hell don’t need a nuke to protect your body. The Amendment uses the word “arms” for a reason. The word itself is limiting in nature. I can’t bear a cannon down the street to protect my body. What you keep referring to in your foolish questions and ridiculous assertions is to “artillery”, not “arms”. You’re ignorantly grasping at straws here.
ARTILLERY, n. In a general sense, offensive weapons of war. Canon; great guns; including guns, mortars and grenades, with their furniture of carriages, balls, bombs and shot of all kinds. In a more extended sense, the word includes powder, cartridges, matches, utensils, machines of all kinds, and horses that belong to a train of artillery. The men who manage cannon and mortars, including matrosses, gunners, bombardiers, cannoniers, or by whatever name they are called, with the officers, engineers and persons who supply the artillery with implements and materials.
Read a dictionary of that time period before you make absurd claims.

January 20, 2013 at 3:35pm

valiant1776 responded:

U.S. v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939)
The Supreme Court decision reads, "The Militia which the States were expected to maintain and train is set in contrast with Troops which they were forbidden to keep without the consent of Congress. The sentiment of the time strongly disfavored standing armies; the common view was that adequate defense of country and laws could be secured through the Militia - civilians primarily, soldiers on occasion... The signification attributed to the term Militia appears from the debates in the Convention, the history and legislation of Colonies and States, and the writings of approved commentators. These show plainly enough that the Militia comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense. 'A body of citizens enrolled for military discipline.' And further, that ordinarily when called for service these men were expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at the time...

January 20, 2013 at 3:37pm

valiant1776 responded:

...'In all the colonies, as in England, the militia system was based on the principle of the assize of arms. This implied the general obligation of all adult male inhabitants to possess arms, and, with certain exceptions, to cooperate in the work of defence.' 'The possession of arms also implied the possession of ammunition, and the authorities paid quite as much attention to the latter as to the former.' 'A year later (1632) it was ordered that any single man who had not furnished himself with arms might be put out to service, and this became a permanent part of the legislation of the colony (Massachusetts).' "
http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/b...lusvmiller.htm
10 USC § 311 – Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are -
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
- End of Code

January 20, 2013 at 4:14pm

Trigus responded:

@ SENDinthemixbagofnutz
"Hinckley became obsessed with the 1976 film Taxi Driver, in which a disturbed protagonist, Travis Bickle, played by Robert De Niro, plots to assassinate a presidential candidate. He watched the film 15 times in a row on a continuous loop.... He also began taking anti-depressants and tranquilizers....Hinckley trailed President Jimmy Carter from state to state, but was arrested in Nashville, Tennessee, on a firearms charge. Penniless, he went home again, and despite psychiatric treatment for depression, his mental health did not improve. He began to target the newly elected president Ronald Reagan in 1981 and started collecting information on the assassination of John F. Kennedy by Lee Harvey Oswald, whom he saw as a role model."
Hinckley used a Rohm RG-14 .22 revolver. Not an "Assault Weapon", nor a "Military Style Assault Weapon", nor a Semi-Automatic Pistol with a "High Capacity Magazine."
So, what do you think caused this Object - the revolver - to be used in this Assassination Attempt?
Maybe the Mental Health Issue, Hollywood influence, and/or the Governments failure prosecute and protect American Citizens when Hinckley was arrested for Firearms violation?
Come on SEND - give us all you have.

January 20, 2013 at 6:28pm

GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3 responded:

Why has this not gone Viral?
http://youtu.be/iuW3-9PVLz4

January 20, 2013 at 8:35pm

SendTheMeteors responded:

valiant1776 defines "arms" with a definition from the period: “Arms” means what the dictionary says it means: (1828 definitions) ARMS, n. plu. Weapons of offense or armor for defense and protection of the body.
Thanks valiant, I'll take you word that in that time "arms" meant "Weapons of offense or armor for defense and protection of the body." Thanks I guess for your impassioned view that the definition of "arms" meant body armor like the mass murderer in Aurora was wearing.
Actually, I don't have a problem with body armor, although I question why a person needs armor piercing bullets given those are mostly used to kill policemen. But if you want to hold the opinion that any American should have those, well, you have that right. And BTW, Hinckley, used explosive bullets called, appropriately, Devastators, which almost killed Reagan and one of which exploded in James Brady's brain. They're outlawed now but according to your definition, that's Unconstitutional.
Anyway, back to your definition which implies that the Founders meant to protect "Weapons of offense." Now Valiant, surely you must understand that definition includes basically every weapon ever created by man, including WMD.
Valiant, use your brain more and your cut and paste skills less. The Founders would never have imagined that people like you would take that to mean, literally, any "weapons of offense."

January 20, 2013 at 9:11pm

3-Blue responded:

@GroundZero:
Thank you very much for that YouTube video of a very brave, iron willed and wise patriot speaking in the heart of Boston. Isn't it often true that those from another country (especially those steeped in tyranny) are the ones who see and articulate the issue and the danger most clearly and without ambiguity?
He was a very heartening inspiration in this fight we find ourselves in for our very constitutional and God-given rights. Our freedom, our republic and our lives are at stake here. Make no mistake about it. It's just that serious. The next time there is a call to action, I hope even more of us stand up and say "there is no one else to do the job but me; I will do it with pride!"
I have friends from Russia, France and Poland. They think we are insane. They think we are lazily eating, playing and getting fat while the Marxists are KILLING the Golden Goose! They are practically screaming it to any who will listen: "Can't you see? Are you blind? Are you stupid? The Communists and Totalitarians are taking over! They have told you in so many words exactly what they are going to do and now they are DOING IT! Stand up and fight back- with everything you have, or they will win!!!"

January 20, 2013 at 9:21pm

3-Blue responded:

Just look at these worms among us. These agents of the enemy like MeteorHead here. He and propagandists like him are the paid enemies of man. They are a cancer attacking the host because we have shown weakness. The only way to make them go away is to win. Only then will they shut up and crawl back under the rocks from which they slithered. What part of “Shall not be infringed” do they not understand? We are going to MAKE them understand.

January 20, 2013 at 11:58pm

chicago76 responded:

Amazing. I did not think there were that many patriots on the east coast anymore. We out here in the midwest stand with you.

January 21, 2013 at 12:11am

scarydave responded:

LADYGOP
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 7:21pm
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I liked your comments and do hope you spread the word. However, there is one thing to always remind people concerning their guns... If our government does come for our firearms, it is prudent to keep your favorite, and very best firearms safely tucked away so Uncle Sam only get's the cheap clunker or even better, goes away empty handed.
Buying a truckload of firearms and ammo won't do you a bit of good if you keep all of them stored at home. This is going to be the very first place the government will come to confiscate your firearms. My best advice is... be creative.

January 21, 2013 at 12:14pm

Dismayed Veteran responded:

I went to my local WalMart Saturday to pick up some #4 shot. The only left were about 6 10-shell boxes. There were only 2 shotguns left in the gun cabinet and (2) 22 cal automatics. The clerk had no idea when the store would be replenished. Think there are a few people concerned about where we are going.

December 27, 2012 at 12:02pm

Interesting “conversation” about Santa Claus. I support everyone telling their children what they believe. I am also a born again believer which some say is a myth, but that’s okay too. It has no bearing on what I believe. We raised two into adulthood and they have made decisions on their own to follow Jesus. I say these things so you have a sliver of where I am coming from. We home educated and did not have any outside television for 25 years, so our kids were free to explore the world without pop culture being any real part of our lives.

We made the decision to allow for the Santa Claus story because it originates from a real person. A Christ follower from the 3rd century. The true story is about giving to others less fortunate than ourselves out of a heart of gratitude for what Jesus gave. There is no place for the “Madison Ave” Santa Claus in the home of faithful Christians, but to teach our children about a saint of our faith is good and right. It is possible within this historical context to have wonder and imagination-which I believe comes from God. The way we celebrated did not create a dissonance for our kids according to their own testimony. They felt our Christmas celebrations were rich and Christ focused and will be doing the same with their children. I am posting a link that has good info even though I am not of the Orthodox faith. I hope it helps. http://www.stnicholascenter.org/pages/who-is-st-nicholas/

PP is only one reason I do not support SGK. And since none of the other issues have changed I will still not be a fan of SGK. Read The Greatest Experiment Ever Performed on Women by medical journalist Barbara Seamans to get the full picture.

There have been MUCH worse. Factor in all the elements-aging, rocker singing acapella out in the cold and you have the best he could do. I think his intentions were good. Personally I think they should use someone from the locale the games are played in or a musician from within our military. I’m not saying Steve Tyler did this in any way, but we do not need big headed celebrities like Roseanne diminishing or soiling our anthem with their screwed up politics.

Frankie only has a platform because his dear parents Francis and Edith built it. He is taking advantage of this because no one would listen to him if he didn’t have his parents to stand on. He is just like Ron Reagan Jr-nobodies without the great ones that went before. Too bad their mothers are still alive to see this garbage.

Exactly...Perry has already overtaken Romney and Bachmann in Rasmussen (as expected). I care about the job she does in congress not whether she remembers John Wayne's birth place or Elvis' birthday. She should either be better informed, or ask someone before she speaks.
Similarly...let's remember that contrary to what Mr Obama has to say..there is no "Austrian language". And "corpsman" has a silent "'p" and "s"and is not pronounced "corpseman".

August 4, 2011 at 10:54am

Has anyone here ever seen Mika shopping at Walmart or Target? I am CERTAIN she and everyone else around that table shops at high end stores simply because they can! So what is the problem with others who make the choice to spend their personally earned dollars where ever they want? Liberals make me sick.

The lead photo is offensive in that our flag is not a piece of clothing. According the the Flag Code http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagcode.htm, section 8d-”The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery.” Since I have taken the time to really understand the historical issues Muslims have with non-Muslims, I do believe EP46 can safely make such a statement. BUT, even if it isn’t being done intentionally, it is still offensive and wrong.

The Prosecutor didn’t do his job. He thought he could win this case on emotions-the currency of liberals. The jury required facts, evidence and clear information in order to do justice to, “beyond a reasonable doubt”. He thought, (I heard him say this in an interview) just flashing the photos of the child’s remains would elicit a guilty response from the jury, but they needed information based on facts. They actually did their job, the Prosecutor didn’t. John Adams wouldn’t have settled for that shoddy a presentation by the prosecution. Sadly, in courtrooms across our country everyday, juries base their verdict on emotions rather than evidence. Our justice system is in a real shambles-this I know from personal experience.

Take another look at the end of the video. The server hands her 2 boxes and Michelle turns around and hands them to 2 other people and then heads to the door. The 2 she hands the boxes off to, look surprised. So, did she order lunch and then not eat it? If this is the case, what was the point of going into this little restaurant? Just wondering how it looks to everyone else.

So proud of Andrew, stepping into a very unfriendly situation and just going for it. He forced them to report his side and I believe it forced Weiner to make an apology. Andrew sets the standard for standing up against the liberals, for all of us.

Chief Moolah, your comment about early Christ followers is inaccurate. They voluntarily shared all that they had. Communism is a forced “sharing”-taking from the producers and distributing it to everyone for the purpose of equality. Of course, this equality is a fallacy because those who run the communist show are more equal than everyone else and therefore make the rules and the exemptions for themselves. Remember, Communism isn’t a voluntary system. Becoming a disciple of Jesus is.