Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.

You're an idiot. So I will take this nice and slow. Weeds grow in fields with crops in them. You want to kill the weeds but not the crop. So they make crops that will not be hurt by roundup. If they did not do this you would have nothing to eat and be dead. Question: How do you feed all the people in the world if you use 1960 farming tech. Answer: You don't, you have mass starvation.

Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.

You're an idiot. So I will take this nice and slow. Weeds grow in fields with crops in them. You want to kill the weeds but not the crop. So they make crops that will not be hurt by roundup. If they did not do this you would have nothing to eat and be dead. Question: How do you feed all the people in the world if you use 1960 farming tech. Answer: You don't, you have mass starvation.

Feel smarter...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 820520

it`s you who is an idiot... for thinking Monsanto is in anyway about providing food for the world.

Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.

You're an idiot. So I will take this nice and slow. Weeds grow in fields with crops in them. You want to kill the weeds but not the crop. So they make crops that will not be hurt by roundup. If they did not do this you would have nothing to eat and be dead. Question: How do you feed all the people in the world if you use 1960 farming tech. Answer: You don't, you have mass starvation.

Feel smarter...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 820520

it`s you who is an idiot... for thinking Monsanto is in anyway about providing food for the world.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24201483

Well you're a double idiot. Tell about the farming you have done. Tell me about the doubling of crop yields over just the last few years. Hmmm, I bet you hate big oil too.... So you can't drive and you stay at home and are dead.... definition of a Double idiot.

Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.

I think the motives for Monsanto's work is not to help the world at all. They intend to slowly but surely take over the control of who produces food, where and how much off it. And they will do that by regulating who is allowed to grow their crops - but first they have to get world wide acceptance of the crops. I hope they do not suceed.

Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.

You're an idiot. So I will take this nice and slow. Weeds grow in fields with crops in them. You want to kill the weeds but not the crop. So they make crops that will not be hurt by roundup. If they did not do this you would have nothing to eat and be dead. Question: How do you feed all the people in the world if you use 1960 farming tech. Answer: You don't, you have mass starvation.

Feel smarter...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 820520

I must be an idiot. Why make a weed killer that kills weeds and the crops too, that's not very scientific, isn't the weed killer supposed to kill the weeds only. Kind of like using a sledgehammer to tap in a nail, IMO. And if those crops that will not be hurt by roundup go on to harm people by causing cancers that kill them, or birth defects, then I guess its just the price we will have to pay. Those nice people at Monsanto certainly wouldn't set out to harm anyone, would they? And with all their scientific research and being world experts in the subject, there is just no way they could possibly know the dangers of GMOs. Any research that says their crops cause death must be wrong. Now, where's my dunce cap.

Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.

Well in 2008 this was one headline:

Scientists condemn Prince Charles's attack on GM crops

and in the article...

Johnjoe McFadden, molecular geneticist at the University of Surrey:"Prince Charles claims that GM crops will be an environmental disaster. But his vision for agriculture would be a much greater disaster for the world's poor whose primary concern is to find their next meal. Recent studies demonstrate that GM crops can generate crop yield increases, particularly in the developing world where so much food crop ends up in the belly of an insect or destroyed by drought."

GLP will not let me post the full link here, buts its from an English newspaper beginning with "G" web article posted 13 AUG 2008.

Well I think this whole idea that good old Monsanto is feeding the poor is a distraction and a LIE. Monsanto is on a mission to control the production of food on our planet, and if they ever achieve that then the poor had better watch out - no cash = no food.

Monsanto is not a charitable institution.

This is nothing short of an attempted coup to take over the world's agriculture by slyly forcing it to its knees and then they intend to get back all their investments plus a whole lot more.

Prince Charles has been thoroughly ridiculed over this, but I think he knows a whole lot more than people give him credit for.

Time will tell, and I sincerely hope Monsanto is stopped before its too late.

Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.

You're an idiot. So I will take this nice and slow. Weeds grow in fields with crops in them. You want to kill the weeds but not the crop. So they make crops that will not be hurt by roundup. If they did not do this you would have nothing to eat and be dead. Question: How do you control all the world's food, and therefore feel like a God? You shouldn't.

Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.

You're an idiot. So I will take this nice and slow. Weeds grow in fields with crops in them. You want to kill the weeds but not the crop. So they make crops that will not be hurt by roundup. If they did not do this you would have nothing to eat and be dead. Question: How do you feed all the people in the world if you use 1960 farming tech. Answer: You don't, you have mass starvation.

Feel smarter...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 820520

Is it worth it if we're feeding ourselves poison? You're encouraging people to "feel smarter" so here you go, take some time to educate yourself about glyphosate (main ingredient in round-up)

"When future historians write about our time, they're not going to write about the tons of chemicals that we did or didn't apply. When it comes to glyphosate, they're going to write about our willingness to sacrifice our children and jeopardize our existence, while threatening and jeopardizing the very basis of our existence; the sustainability of our agriculture." … It doesn't mean that it's not reversible… But it means that we need to recognize what the concerns are, what's happening, and then we need to change."

Glyphosate is a systemic insecticide, which means that it is absorbed into the plants tissues, so you can't just wash the shit off.

Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.

You're an idiot. So I will take this nice and slow. Weeds grow in fields with crops in them. You want to kill the weeds but not the crop. So they make crops that will not be hurt by roundup. If they did not do this you would have nothing to eat and be dead. Question: How do you feed all the people in the world if you use 1960 farming tech. Answer: You don't, you have mass starvation.

Feel smarter...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 820520

Current farming technology is stripping the topsoil at a huge rate, monocultures and pesticides are creating super weeds (which make obvious sense if you think about it) Current farming techniques are completely unsustainable without huge subsidies. Once our surplus energy levels drop, the price of food will be so expensive only the elite will be able to afford it, and yet is costs no money to push a seed into the ground and let nature grow the crop.....

we are replacing the primary economy (nature) with an ultra complex secondary economy that needs huge amounts of oil and natural gas to work.

as an example the primary economy of lets say Bees, doing millions of dollars of work for free pollinating stuff.

If we kill all the bees will have to create a new machine running on oil or gas to go along and pollinate the crops, this leaves less discretionary energy available to the rest of the economy. I hope you understand all this.

Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.

I think the motives for Monsanto's work is not to help the world at all. They intend to slowly but surely take over the control of who produces food, where and how much off it. And they will do that by regulating who is allowed to grow their crops - but first they have to get world wide acceptance of the crops. I hope they do not suceed.

Quoting: GMOver 6988499

food is the new crude oil

you dont see farmer joe down the road allowed to sell crude oil do ya? so why food? what is it a true democracy all of a sudden?

Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.

I never understood the point of killing weeds around crops. Is it to make the crops look more beautiful? Just tear the damn things out of the ground with that big cussed machine that yanks everything else out! So instead of wanting to sort through the rubbish they are making it so that their customers get poisoned? Great idea!

Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.

I never understood the point of killing weeds around crops. Is it to make the crops look more beautiful? Just tear the damn things out of the ground with that big cussed machine that yanks everything else out! So instead of wanting to sort through the rubbish they are making it so that their customers get poisoned? Great idea!

Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.

We posted an article on this months ago, titled "Roundup is Causing DNA Damage." It also exposes the entire Monsanto agenda of taking over the world's food supply. You can read it here: [link to thedcpost.com]

Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.

You're an idiot. So I will take this nice and slow. Weeds grow in fields with crops in them. You want to kill the weeds but not the crop. So they make crops that will not be hurt by roundup. If they did not do this you would have nothing to eat and be dead. Question: How do you feed all the people in the world if you use 1960 farming tech. Answer: You don't, you have mass starvation.

Feel smarter...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 820520

Dont need to insult...How do you like to have in your body a molecular change done by the food you eat....and you dont know the results of it.....read more .. no insults

Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.

You're an idiot. So I will take this nice and slow. Weeds grow in fields with crops in them. You want to kill the weeds but not the crop. So they make crops that will not be hurt by roundup. If they did not do this you would have nothing to eat and be dead. Question: How do you feed all the people in the world if you use 1960 farming tech. Answer: You don't, you have mass starvation.

Feel smarter...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 820520

it`s you who is an idiot... for thinking Monsanto is in anyway about providing food for the world.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24201483

Well you're a double idiot. Tell about the farming you have done. Tell me about the doubling of crop yields over just the last few years. Hmmm, I bet you hate big oil too.... So you can't drive and you stay at home and are dead.... definition of a Double idiot.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 820520

Can you show us some data that shows the doubling of crop yields due to GMO corn? Or do you have to be a farmer to just know that?Since 1996 the USA had a 15% increase in crop yields, with a 20% price increase.(inflation corrected), with a big drop expected this year - back to 1996 levels and production cost rising about 45% since 1996.

Now factor in all the side effects of the poison they put in our food:Birth defects, bees colony collapse disorder, forbidden seed saving ...

How much of the yield increase is due to Monsanto GMO stuff, hoe much is due to proper fertilization, better equipment and other improvements? Did you ever think about that?

And what has my stand on "big oil" and car driving have to do with any of it? I guess only a farmer knows...

Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.

Farming yields?

How about loss of nutritional value?How about the suicide-gen that allows only one harvest with the Monsanto seeds forcing farmers to buy seeds every year?What about Monsanto cornering the rice market in Asia?What about U.S. farmers being forced to use their products or else they are sued out of existence?

Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.

You're an idiot. So I will take this nice and slow. Weeds grow in fields with crops in them. You want to kill the weeds but not the crop. So they make crops that will not be hurt by roundup. If they did not do this you would have nothing to eat and be dead. Question: How do you feed all the people in the world if you use 1960 farming tech. Answer: You don't, you have mass starvation.

Feel smarter...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 820520

it`s you who is an idiot... for thinking Monsanto is in anyway about providing food for the world.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24201483

Well you're a double idiot. Tell about the farming you have done. Tell me about the doubling of crop yields over just the last few years. Hmmm, I bet you hate big oil too.... So you can't drive and you stay at home and are dead.... definition of a Double idiot.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 820520

Can you show us some data that shows the doubling of crop yields due to GMO corn? Or do you have to be a farmer to just know that?Since 1996 the USA had a 15% increase in crop yields, with a 20% price increase.(inflation corrected), with a big drop expected this year - back to 1996 levels and production cost rising about 45% since 1996.

Now factor in all the side effects of the poison they put in our food:Birth defects, bees colony collapse disorder, forbidden seed saving ...

How much of the yield increase is due to Monsanto GMO stuff, hoe much is due to proper fertilization, better equipment and other improvements? Did you ever think about that?

And what has my stand on "big oil" and car driving have to do with any of it? I guess only a farmer knows...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24221473

That's the bottom line. They own it now, because it is not natural, it is modified. It is environmental terrorism! A crime against nature.

Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.

You're an idiot. So I will take this nice and slow. Weeds grow in fields with crops in them. You want to kill the weeds but not the crop. So they make crops that will not be hurt by roundup. If they did not do this you would have nothing to eat and be dead. Question: How do you feed all the people in the world if you use 1960 farming tech. Answer: You don't, you have mass starvation.

Feel smarter...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 820520

It's quite apparent you have not studied this subject matter seriously.

Who makes Round Up?

Who's product directed contributed to the development of pesticide resistant weeds & pests?

Who provided a 'solution' to the 'problem' by engineering genetically modified seeds that would then be sold (for profit) to be used in conjunction with the pesticide (Round Up) that was responsible for creating the 'problem' in the first place?

It's all the same fucking company. They fucked up nature by profiting off the use of questionable chemicals/pesticides and now they have found a way to monopolize the farming industry because they had to genetically modify seeds to cope with the harmful consequences of their pesticides!

What's next, tobacco companies selling cancer treatments???

Why are you telling people to "feel smarter' when you so readily demonstrate your lack of awareness on this issue?

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"

Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.

You're an idiot. So I will take this nice and slow. Weeds grow in fields with crops in them. You want to kill the weeds but not the crop. So they make crops that will not be hurt by roundup. If they did not do this you would have nothing to eat and be dead. Question: How do you feed all the people in the world if you use 1960 farming tech. Answer: You don't, you have mass starvation.

Feel smarter...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 820520

It's quite apparent you have not studied this subject matter seriously.

Who makes Round Up?

Who's product directed contributed to the development of pesticide resistant weeds & pests?

Who provided a 'solution' to the 'problem' by engineering genetically modified seeds that would then be sold (for profit) to be used in conjunction with the pesticide (Round Up) that was responsible for creating the 'problem' in the first place?

It's all the same fucking company. They fucked up nature by profiting off the use of questionable chemicals/pesticides and now they have found a way to monopolize the farming industry because they had to genetically modify seeds to cope with the harmful consequences of their pesticides!

What's next, tobacco companies selling cancer treatments???

Why are you telling people to "feel smarter' when you so readily demonstrate your lack of awareness on this issue?

Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.

I never understood the point of killing weeds around crops. Is it to make the crops look more beautiful? Just tear the damn things out of the ground with that big cussed machine that yanks everything else out! So instead of wanting to sort through the rubbish they are making it so that their customers get poisoned? Great idea!

Re: Let me get this straight, Monsanto made Roundup and now they sell GM seeds resistant to their own poison, have we all gone mad.

You're an idiot. So I will take this nice and slow. Weeds grow in fields with crops in them. You want to kill the weeds but not the crop. So they make crops that will not be hurt by roundup. If they did not do this you would have nothing to eat and be dead. Question: How do you feed all the people in the world if you use 1960 farming tech. Answer: You don't, you have mass starvation.

Feel smarter...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 820520

it`s you who is an idiot... for thinking Monsanto is in anyway about providing food for the world.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24201483

Well you're a double idiot. Tell about the farming you have done. Tell me about the doubling of crop yields over just the last few years. Hmmm, I bet you hate big oil too.... So you can't drive and you stay at home and are dead.... definition of a Double idiot.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 820520

Now the double idiot is often misunderstood and thought by some to actually be a genius........double implies twice as much and usually means more........