Apple Says Jailbreaking your iPhone is Illegal – Continued.

As we reported back in February, Apple has taken the necessary steps to make jailbreaking your iPhone illegal in response to Electronic Frontier Foundation asking for a DMCA exemption for jailbreaking. Last week the discussion’s continued as Apple’s head of marketing met with Electronic Frontier Foundation and various Copyright Office officials including record labels, movie studios, and the software industry.

Among the topics discussed were:

A DMCA exemption for cell phone “jailbreaking” — liberating iPhones and other handsets to run applications from sources other than those approved by the phone maker. More than a million iPhone owners have “jailbroken” their iPhones in order to use applications obtained from sources other than Apple’s own iTunes “App Store.” Apple has taken the position that any modification of an iPhone’s software to enable the use of applications from other sources violates the DMCA.

Renewal of the 2006 exemption for unlocking cell phones so that the handsets can be used with any telecommunications carrier. Several carriers have threatened cell phone unlockers with legal action under the DMCA, even though there is no copyright infringement involved in the unlocking. The digital locks on cell phones, however, make it harder to resell, reuse, or recycle the handset.

I understand why Apple opposes jailbreaking, they make a lot of money from the over 1 billion app sales. However, I still think once I pay for something I should be able to do whatever I want with it. I do not think we should pirate apps and rip off Apple or the developer’s who have worked very hard to bring us their creations and deserve to be paid for their efforts. But, if a developer wants to offer us their creation through a method other than Apple, I say why not!!

I will continue to follow this story and keep you posted on any further updates.

For a full re-cap of what went on please see the full story at wired.com

I pay a ridiculous amount of $$$ for my device and have to put up with how stingy Apple is with there products, I can do whatever I want to it!

Guest

I pay a ridiculous amount of $$$ for my device and have to put up with how stingy Apple is with there products, I can do whatever I want to it!

Guest

I pay a ridiculous amount of $$$ for my device and have to put up with how stingy Apple is with there products, I can do whatever I want to it!

Dusty

I pay a ridiculous amount of $$$ for my device and have to put up with how stingy Apple is with there products, I can do whatever I want to it!

http://www.tyleringram.com/ Tyler Ingram

I agree, if I pay for it, I should be able to do whatever I want to it. I’m on a 3yr contract paying a crap load of money to Rogers (which goes to Apple too).

And like you said, loading 3rd party apps isn’t ripping Apple off, we’re not pirating software from Apple (or anyone for that matter), we’re finding better uses for our phones! If apple won’t release a feature for us, we can sure bet that a 3rd party will do it for us, even if Apple won’t approve it!

http://www.tyleringram.com/ Tyler Ingram

I agree, if I pay for it, I should be able to do whatever I want to it. I’m on a 3yr contract paying a crap load of money to Rogers (which goes to Apple too).

And like you said, loading 3rd party apps isn’t ripping Apple off, we’re not pirating software from Apple (or anyone for that matter), we’re finding better uses for our phones! If apple won’t release a feature for us, we can sure bet that a 3rd party will do it for us, even if Apple won’t approve it!

http://www.tyleringram.com/ Tyler Ingram

I agree, if I pay for it, I should be able to do whatever I want to it. I’m on a 3yr contract paying a crap load of money to Rogers (which goes to Apple too).

And like you said, loading 3rd party apps isn’t ripping Apple off, we’re not pirating software from Apple (or anyone for that matter), we’re finding better uses for our phones! If apple won’t release a feature for us, we can sure bet that a 3rd party will do it for us, even if Apple won’t approve it!

http://www.tyleringram.com Tyler Ingram

I agree, if I pay for it, I should be able to do whatever I want to it. I’m on a 3yr contract paying a crap load of money to Rogers (which goes to Apple too).

And like you said, loading 3rd party apps isn’t ripping Apple off, we’re not pirating software from Apple (or anyone for that matter), we’re finding better uses for our phones! If apple won’t release a feature for us, we can sure bet that a 3rd party will do it for us, even if Apple won’t approve it!

IcemanYVR

My phone, my choice. Apple is just discovering what has been happening for years. They are just so full of themselves they think they can do something about it. I’m pretty sure at the end I re day, the courts will rule in the consumers favour.

IcemanYVR

My phone, my choice. Apple is just discovering what has been happening for years. They are just so full of themselves they think they can do something about it. I’m pretty sure at the end I re day, the courts will rule in the consumers favour.

IcemanYVR

My phone, my choice. Apple is just discovering what has been happening for years. They are just so full of themselves they think they can do something about it. I’m pretty sure at the end I re day, the courts will rule in the consumers favour.

IcemanYVR

My phone, my choice. Apple is just discovering what has been happening for years. They are just so full of themselves they think they can do something about it. I’m pretty sure at the end I re day, the courts will rule in the consumers favour.

teddyx

I have to say that i would like to do anything with my phone as soon as i get it the themeing and the things that apple says “slows down your phone” well thats fine? then let people use there phones with the lag then. Apple has every right in the world to be pissed over this..but with that said i think there looking to kill the jailbreak process because its the only way (right now) to ensure that people are “stealing” apps from the appstore because they don’t want to pay the 99¢ or the $9.99 for the app. Developers releasing app on the jailbreak are because apple’s appstore approval process is ridiculous. The fact that the cydia store is now working has anybody purchased anything from it? im still hesitant to altho there is nothing really appealing to me other than the Quickreply txt messaging… but if 3.0 is comming out im not gonna spend money on it

teddyx

thats the part .. in the contract it probably says all kinds of stuff about not using it for copyright infringing and all that jazz fucking ToS…

teddyx

thats the part .. in the contract it probably says all kinds of stuff about not using it for copyright infringing and all that jazz fucking ToS…

teddyx

thats the part .. in the contract it probably says all kinds of stuff about not using it for copyright infringing and all that jazz fucking ToS…

http://www.iphoneincanada.ca Gary

I agree with everyone…once you buy a device…it’s yours to do whatever you want to it. It’s like if you buy a Honda Civic…and modify the engine, will Honda come knocking on your door to change it back to stock?!

http://www.iphoneincanada.ca Gary

I agree with everyone…once you buy a device…it’s yours to do whatever you want to it. It’s like if you buy a Honda Civic…and modify the engine, will Honda come knocking on your door to change it back to stock?!

http://www.iphoneincanada.ca iPhone Fan

I agree with everyone…once you buy a device…it’s yours to do whatever you want to it. It’s like if you buy a Honda Civic…and modify the engine, will Honda come knocking on your door to change it back to stock?!

Jerry

I agree with you all but one significant difference is that Apple provides software updates/upgrades that, in most cases, improve the functionality of the phone – something that this website applauded versus other phones.

Does that change the argument in anyone’s mind?

Jerry

I agree with you all but one significant difference is that Apple provides software updates/upgrades that, in most cases, improve the functionality of the phone – something that this website applauded versus other phones.

Does that change the argument in anyone’s mind?

Jerry

I agree with you all but one significant difference is that Apple provides software updates/upgrades that, in most cases, improve the functionality of the phone – something that this website applauded versus other phones.

Does that change the argument in anyone’s mind?

_Shorty

The fact that Apple releases updates or improvements is not even related to the ability to use software from someone other than Apple. I’m surprised Apple hasn’t had the gubmint come down hard on them for anti-competitive behaviour like they do Microsoft. What do you think would happen to Microsoft if they tried to say that you can’t run software from anyone else on Windows 7, only software from Microsoft?

_Shorty

The fact that Apple releases updates or improvements is not even related to the ability to use software from someone other than Apple. I’m surprised Apple hasn’t had the gubmint come down hard on them for anti-competitive behaviour like they do Microsoft. What do you think would happen to Microsoft if they tried to say that you can’t run software from anyone else on Windows 7, only software from Microsoft?

_Shorty

The fact that Apple releases updates or improvements is not even related to the ability to use software from someone other than Apple. I’m surprised Apple hasn’t had the gubmint come down hard on them for anti-competitive behaviour like they do Microsoft. What do you think would happen to Microsoft if they tried to say that you can’t run software from anyone else on Windows 7, only software from Microsoft?

Aaron

I jailbreak, and will continue to do so in the future. COME GET ME APPLE, I DARE YA.

Aaron

I jailbreak, and will continue to do so in the future. COME GET ME APPLE, I DARE YA.

Aaron

I jailbreak, and will continue to do so in the future. COME GET ME APPLE, I DARE YA.

Monty

I haven’t jailbroken my phone mainly because the only thing that interests me is being able to use it on other networks, but I don’t think I travel enough to make getting a SIM on another network a cost-effective option.

I’m also not clear on how data works with a SIM card from another network. I have tried searching for actual specifics with no luck at all.

More apps aren’t a big draw for me, I’m mostly content with what I can get from the app store.

Monty

I haven’t jailbroken my phone mainly because the only thing that interests me is being able to use it on other networks, but I don’t think I travel enough to make getting a SIM on another network a cost-effective option.

I’m also not clear on how data works with a SIM card from another network. I have tried searching for actual specifics with no luck at all.

More apps aren’t a big draw for me, I’m mostly content with what I can get from the app store.

Monty

I haven’t jailbroken my phone mainly because the only thing that interests me is being able to use it on other networks, but I don’t think I travel enough to make getting a SIM on another network a cost-effective option.

I’m also not clear on how data works with a SIM card from another network. I have tried searching for actual specifics with no luck at all.

More apps aren’t a big draw for me, I’m mostly content with what I can get from the app store.

Monty

I haven’t jailbroken my phone mainly because the only thing that interests me is being able to use it on other networks, but I don’t think I travel enough to make getting a SIM on another network a cost-effective option.

I’m also not clear on how data works with a SIM card from another network. I have tried searching for actual specifics with no luck at all.

More apps aren’t a big draw for me, I’m mostly content with what I can get from the app store.

Eric

This goes right along with Microsofts fight about unlocking original Xboxes years ago. Back then (and now with the 360, Wii and PS3) unlocking was done primarily to use “backup” copies of games – which can be easily downloaded. However it was proven that simply by owning an unlocked device did not constitute a crime. The owner of such a device must commit the crime after-the-fact. I think we’ll find the same result here. Apple is trying to scare people, just like MS did, and it will fail. The folks that can jailbreak a phone will do so regardless of what Apple says.

Eric

This goes right along with Microsofts fight about unlocking original Xboxes years ago. Back then (and now with the 360, Wii and PS3) unlocking was done primarily to use “backup” copies of games – which can be easily downloaded. However it was proven that simply by owning an unlocked device did not constitute a crime. The owner of such a device must commit the crime after-the-fact. I think we’ll find the same result here. Apple is trying to scare people, just like MS did, and it will fail. The folks that can jailbreak a phone will do so regardless of what Apple says.

Eric

This goes right along with Microsofts fight about unlocking original Xboxes years ago. Back then (and now with the 360, Wii and PS3) unlocking was done primarily to use “backup” copies of games – which can be easily downloaded. However it was proven that simply by owning an unlocked device did not constitute a crime. The owner of such a device must commit the crime after-the-fact. I think we’ll find the same result here. Apple is trying to scare people, just like MS did, and it will fail. The folks that can jailbreak a phone will do so regardless of what Apple says.

Eric

This goes right along with Microsofts fight about unlocking original Xboxes years ago. Back then (and now with the 360, Wii and PS3) unlocking was done primarily to use “backup” copies of games – which can be easily downloaded. However it was proven that simply by owning an unlocked device did not constitute a crime. The owner of such a device must commit the crime after-the-fact. I think we’ll find the same result here. Apple is trying to scare people, just like MS did, and it will fail. The folks that can jailbreak a phone will do so regardless of what Apple says.

Phileops

Insisting that jailbreak is illegal makes Apple immoral. They make millions off apps and the sale of iPhone (as they should) but locking the phone is just greed on the part of cell phone providers. Roger’s locks phones in Canada to ensure we don’t switch to whom???

The issue is that these phones shouldn’t be locked in the first place.

Phileops

Insisting that jailbreak is illegal makes Apple immoral. They make millions off apps and the sale of iPhone (as they should) but locking the phone is just greed on the part of cell phone providers. Roger’s locks phones in Canada to ensure we don’t switch to whom???

The issue is that these phones shouldn’t be locked in the first place.

Phileops

Insisting that jailbreak is illegal makes Apple immoral. They make millions off apps and the sale of iPhone (as they should) but locking the phone is just greed on the part of cell phone providers. Roger’s locks phones in Canada to ensure we don’t switch to whom???

The issue is that these phones shouldn’t be locked in the first place.

Phileops

Insisting that jailbreak is illegal makes Apple immoral. They make millions off apps and the sale of iPhone (as they should) but locking the phone is just greed on the part of cell phone providers. Roger’s locks phones in Canada to ensure we don’t switch to whom???

The issue is that these phones shouldn’t be locked in the first place.

Matt

I have jail broken my iphone, and i do it because i want to customize the springboard and icons, best of all jail breaking is free, and i have yet to see an app from the istore that is like winterboard and categories. You buy a mac and you want to change the desktop picture, you do so, you up up a picture of your pet, so why shouldn’t you be able to put that same pic up behind your springboard icons.
Apple is making millions off there one billion apps downloaded, and people will still continue to use the app store. Providing update is just part of being a good respectable company, that people like to go back to, is they didnÂ’t change people would loose faith in then and move on, i paid for my phone what i put on it is my problem, if there is software that damages the functionality of my phone, you can restore it, apple really only protects the hardware, as they should, they know that if there is a software issue they can just wipe the phone and then it will be as good as new.
As for the comment above about roger, well ya, how many GSM networks are in Canada, where am i going to go, im not only with roger because of the iphone i was with them before hand, and will stay that way, TELUS was no good, and well thereÂ’s bell.

Matt

I have jail broken my iphone, and i do it because i want to customize the springboard and icons, best of all jail breaking is free, and i have yet to see an app from the istore that is like winterboard and categories. You buy a mac and you want to change the desktop picture, you do so, you up up a picture of your pet, so why shouldn’t you be able to put that same pic up behind your springboard icons.
Apple is making millions off there one billion apps downloaded, and people will still continue to use the app store. Providing update is just part of being a good respectable company, that people like to go back to, is they didnÂ’t change people would loose faith in then and move on, i paid for my phone what i put on it is my problem, if there is software that damages the functionality of my phone, you can restore it, apple really only protects the hardware, as they should, they know that if there is a software issue they can just wipe the phone and then it will be as good as new.
As for the comment above about roger, well ya, how many GSM networks are in Canada, where am i going to go, im not only with roger because of the iphone i was with them before hand, and will stay that way, TELUS was no good, and well thereÂ’s bell.

Matt

I have jail broken my iphone, and i do it because i want to customize the springboard and icons, best of all jail breaking is free, and i have yet to see an app from the istore that is like winterboard and categories. You buy a mac and you want to change the desktop picture, you do so, you up up a picture of your pet, so why shouldn’t you be able to put that same pic up behind your springboard icons.
Apple is making millions off there one billion apps downloaded, and people will still continue to use the app store. Providing update is just part of being a good respectable company, that people like to go back to, is they didnÂ’t change people would loose faith in then and move on, i paid for my phone what i put on it is my problem, if there is software that damages the functionality of my phone, you can restore it, apple really only protects the hardware, as they should, they know that if there is a software issue they can just wipe the phone and then it will be as good as new.
As for the comment above about roger, well ya, how many GSM networks are in Canada, where am i going to go, im not only with roger because of the iphone i was with them before hand, and will stay that way, TELUS was no good, and well thereÂ’s bell.

Matt

I have jail broken my iphone, and i do it because i want to customize the springboard and icons, best of all jail breaking is free, and i have yet to see an app from the istore that is like winterboard and categories. You buy a mac and you want to change the desktop picture, you do so, you up up a picture of your pet, so why shouldn’t you be able to put that same pic up behind your springboard icons.
Apple is making millions off there one billion apps downloaded, and people will still continue to use the app store. Providing update is just part of being a good respectable company, that people like to go back to, is they didn’t change people would loose faith in then and move on, i paid for my phone what i put on it is my problem, if there is software that damages the functionality of my phone, you can restore it, apple really only protects the hardware, as they should, they know that if there is a software issue they can just wipe the phone and then it will be as good as new.
As for the comment above about roger, well ya, how many GSM networks are in Canada, where am i going to go, im not only with roger because of the iphone i was with them before hand, and will stay that way, TELUS was no good, and well there’s bell.