The Irresponsible Captain:Aarontology: It's amazing how for the past 12 years the government has had the power to do the exact same thing to citizens with the total compliance and silence of the media, but the moment the same things happen to them, they raise a stink.

^ This ^

When people get power, it's hard to make them give it up, and silly to expect they won't exercise it as well.

But 9/11, Terr'ists, Flag Pin, Freedom.

I clearly remember asking people if they would be happy when the patriot act was used by a democratic President.I was told there would be a permanent republican majority.

So has Obama himself been implicated in any of these 'scandals' yet? With, y'know, evidence instead of "Well, he's the President so he should know ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING that happens in the government because we expect Presidents to be farking omnipotent".

Profedius:Which do you think is worse an administration who knew nothing about it (assuming they are telling the truth) or an administration who ordered it and is now trying to distance themselves from it? Either way you go you fail which is pretty much standard operating procedure for this administration. Incompetence or injustice.

Obama is personally involved in every minute detail of every agency in government?

Popcorn Johnny:Come on Fark, admit that your hero is capable of making a mistake.

DarnoKonrad:whitman00: A leak from the government outed a deep cover operative who was thiiissss close to a master bomb maker. The intel lost from this leak damaged our effort to fight terrorism. So, do conservatives support going after the leaker or not? What would they do different if they were in power is a great question that no one seems to be asking.

I'm less interested in conservatives, and more interested in the "liberals" that were outraged about Plame being outed that now think this is some kind of outrage.

Doesn't make any farking sense.

It's the difference between stabbing one of your own soldiers in the back for telling you something you don't want to hear...in private, no less...and blabbing about, say, classified troop deployments. To the enemy.

It's only a tough distinction to make if you're retarded. Or, you know...Republican.

Aarontology:It's amazing how for the past 12 years the government has had the power to do the exact same thing to citizens with the total compliance and silence of the media, but the moment the same things happen to them, they raise a stink.

^ This ^

When people get power, it's hard to make them give it up, and silly to expect they won't exercise it as well.

You know, funny you should say that because when all this broke I was laughing my ass off that Obama's basically pulled a page from Nixon's playbook. The GOP could never pull anything like that off anymore because most of their people are too goddamn dumb. Nixon was smarter than hell and pretty awesome. So is Obama.

Basically, Obama's just a way better Nixonion politician than any of the clowns currently in Republican positions of power. And I love it.

Even Nixon's happy that somebody can finally live up to his legacy of dirty tricks, massive foreign policy success and legislation that redefines America:

"Hi. I'm from the government. We just killed 8 kajillion brown people in Bumfarkistan. But they we're going to say that they were all terrorists, even the 4 year olds, so that means if you report on it we're going to throw your ass in jail. Kthxbai. FREEDOM!"