Itachi could defeat Non-Rinnegan Tobi/Obito??? Fuq out of here! OBITO Shits on him!!!

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yup, with this you just showed to everyone the best argument ever. Why the hell did you even bother to write since you didn't say anything productive or at least with some kind of potential.
That makes perfect sense. . . i f you don't even understand what I wrote then you just need to start all over from kindergarden. . .

You posted like a page or something of writing, and it just took me a sentence to show a easy way itachi can find a way to deal with the obito's kamui. . .

If there's someone who really needs to read the manga all over again is you because you really don't have a grasp of the potential that itachi has, because he never showed his true strength. Even with as much info as we have, Itachi is one step ahead of obito in many aspects.

Anyway, i bet that none of these will ever make sense to you because of the obvious hate that you have about itachi . . . it's unreasonable to argue with a fanboy.

yup, with this you just showed to everyone the best argument ever. Why the hell did you even bother to write since you didn't say anything productive or at least with some kind of potential.
That makes perfect sense. . . i f you don't even understand what I wrote then you just need to start all over from kindergarden. . .

You posted like a page or something of writing, and it just took me a sentence to show a easy way itachi can find a way to deal with the obito's kamui. . .

If there's someone who really needs to read the manga all over again is you because you really don't have a grasp of the potential that itachi has, because he never showed his true strength. Even with as much info as we have, Itachi is one step ahead of obito in many aspects.

Anyway, i bet that none of these will ever make sense to you because of the obvious hate that you have about itachi . . . it's unreasonable to argue with a fanboy.

peace,

lmao you sir are a certified noob!

Naruto the best clone user in the manga with 3 other fighters helping him could not **** with obito with out using space time ninjutsu which itachi does not possess. How th ehell do you thing a clone that even kaksahi seen through would fool tobi???
Owned your logic with this pick alone!!!
You are out of your league so just stopp! I instantly know anything in the manga by seeing it once! Use the manga or STFU Kid!

Naruto the best clone user in the manga with 3 other fighters helping him could not **** with obito with out using space time ninjutsu which itachi does not possess. How th ehell do you thing a clone that even kaksahi seen through would fool tobi???
Owned your logic with this pick alone!!!
You are out of your league so just stopp! I instantly know anything in the manga by seeing it once! Use the manga or STFU Kid!

wow, where does all this hate come from? lol
i didn't say anything about the fact that the sharingan can't recognise a clone. In a real battle, nothing happens in slow motion. If you want to refer to this example, kakashi had time to look at the chakra pattern and distinguish the clone ( the anime portrays is better). You just showed itachi's speed and how that could contribute into the immediate substitution of the real body with a clone "in the process" of just sucking "itachi's body"

Also the sharingan does not distinguish chakra without the controller's effort. If the controller does not focus on the chakra then it won't show anything.

Example: we know that the sharingan can also distinguish genjutus, since a genjutus manipulates chakra, but danzo was not able to distinguish the simple genjutsu that sasuke placed on him (faking an open eye in his arm) this comes because danzo did not focus in chakra flow

Obito was a smart ninja, hence he didn't share any of his weaknesses with Itachi. The man was trained by Madara - this is what I am leaning towards - there is no way anyone is even close to his league. Tobi was never scared of Itachi, he was only keeping his word, nothing else. Nothing in the manga suggests otherwise. Also, Sasuke broke out of Itachi's illusion technique instantly. If he can do it, why can't tobi?

Itachi didnt have access to a 1000 Sharingans from the massacre to use as Izanagi or whatever special ability Obito possessed at the time.

He had his own two eyes, with which he struck amazement and fear in the hearts of everyone he knew, including Obito. The reason Pain or anyone else from the Akatsuki never invaded Konoha while Itachi was alive, was because they never got the order from Obito to do so.

Obito knew full well the consequences he faced if he had. During the time Itachi made the offer to Obito to slaughter everyone in the clan, a pact was made between them, no one would touch the rest of Konoha or Sasuke.

Itachi knew about Naruto's importance from the beginning and that is the reason he was tasked to get the Kyuubi himself, but he never did, and no one else did either, no until after Itachi's death!

Itachi was untouchable! And I am not his fanboy, that is my true perspective of him.

BTW this thread is just another excuse to seek attention, not bashing you or anything, I just see it for what it is.

It proves nothing that i havent already post. Its obv he didnt read the OP.

Originally Posted by The God of Wind

Itachi didnt have access to a 1000 Sharingans from the massacre to use as Izanagi or whatever special ability Obito possessed at the time.

He had his own two eyes, with which he struck amazement and fear in the hearts of everyone he knew, including Obito. The reason Pain or anyone else from the Akatsuki never invaded Konoha while Itachi was alive, was because they never got the order from Obito to do so.

Obito knew full well the consequences he faced if he had. During the time Itachi made the offer to Obito to slaughter everyone in the clan, a pact was made between them, no one would touch the rest of Konoha or Sasuke.

Itachi knew about Naruto's importance from the beginning and that is the reason he was tasked to get the Kyuubi himself, but he never did, and no one else did either, no until after Itachi's death!

Itachi was untouchable! And I am not his fanboy, that is my true perspective of him.

BTW this thread is just another excuse to seek attention, not bashing you or anything, I just see it for what it is.

First of all i countered anything you could say with my OP.
Secondly, ive been on this iste wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy longer then you and have no reason to "seek attention". Who am i to impress? A bunch of new users who dont know the manga like me and some of the others? I post facts from manga, what is there not to understand? Ive made many threads about itachi good and bad and other characters. Just because you feel i proved you wrong and you are in love with itachi you think im just hating on itachi which isnt the case. Check my history on this site. I expose Light on those who get overrated. And im not going to bash you since you were polite about it (in a sense).
Third, itachi is no where close to being "untouchable" where are you getting this from???

I can list 10 ninjas that defeats him. He is no where close to being the best or one of the best. He is a great ninja but ppl like you go wayyyyyyy over board and think of him as a god in you alls eyes. Which is sad. smh

Itachi did as he pleased all his life, as a member of Akatsuki.....and most of all, even as an Edo!! That is proof enough.

Not to mention he has already been labelled "untouchable/invincible" by the manga. That is what the combination of Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade do for him.

Any kind of counter that you come up with or any other person who is not the writer himself, for any kind of jutsu, no matter how logical it may sound, is irrelevant and doesnt prove anything.

BTW here you go:

Did you read that? Itachi alone.....was standing in the way of the entire Akatsuki, including its true leader. Please tell me you did not miss that page from the manga.

You can call Kishimoto a fanboy of his own character but he has proven through the manga itself, that Itachi is the best there is, and only a chosen few from the Senju clan, stand a chance against him!

Also, the fact that you think that Uchiha Itachi will be defeated like some fukking noob from root, or that he can be defeated with just one jutsu, shows to me, how much you love Obito! I like the real Kamui as much as the next person, but I think it is you who is blowing everything out of proportion with your utterly ridiculous theory!

And believe it or not, I love the manga, not a specific fictional character, that allows me to see the truth, unlike some biased and opinionated fanboys. The title for this thread just screams out "come and post on my thread!!!!"

U basically rode tobi's **** on this thread. There equals, the only other uchiha that has gone toe to toe in genjustu is Sasuke, so we can't say that tobi or itachi is better or that tobi will definitely break tsukiyomi. The only time tobi has used genjustu is when he had control over the mizukage and when he squeezed info out of konan. So its safe to say that he's good in genjustu but its not enough to solidify that he's better than itachi or vise versa. Kamui has been counter many times, in every fight tobi was in a strategy and counter method was made, even Danzo's goons orchestrated a stragey that injured tobi. Guy was able to go toe to toe with tobi with just taijustu, tobi being able to keep up with guy is no major feat. Kakashi is able to keep up with guy no problem and itachi is on par with kakashi in taijustu, also itachi was able to hold his own against km naruto and bee at the same time. U can't say that its impossible for itachi to attack cause he'll immediately get sucked in. When it comes to a battle between these two it wont be a factor of who can use stronger or better justu, it will be who can come up with a better strategy and who can be the most proficient.

BTW where were you when Itachi one shotted three strong characters in a matter of seconds? Deidara, Orochimaru and Kakashi.

The only thing Obito had on Itachi was the fact that he knew Itachi's secret. Knowing that Itachi was just protecting his own cover and the leaf village by joining Akatsuki and pretending to be a bad guy for the sake of his brother and his clan's dignity, no matter how admirable it may sound, was enough for Obito to take him down. Instead Obito also ended up acting like he didnt know a thing and played along with Itachi's little charade, coming to the conclusion that it was better to wait almost 10 years for Itachi to die at Sasuke's hand than to try and kill him on his own.