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Tivon 2

Tivon 2

Hi I really need some advice I recently got red rili shrimp and they all are acting normal but one of them is turning white and I'm a tad concerned is he molting some one told me we was but idk I'm just really scared cause my family doesn't have alot of money at all and it's hard to even by a plant for my tank i don't want to lose these guys and I really need some advice. Agian I'm broke and I can't rely on no body rn cause I don't get any support I'm always put down by family with this hobby. Dose anyone know if there just molting or something? One of my other shrimp are clear and colorful.

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Zoidburg 124

Zoidburg 124

White body is typically a sign of muscular necrosis/bacterial infection and hard to treat. It's recommended to remove these shrimp and quarantine. If necessary, see if the place you purchased from would exchange for healthier? But if one is sick, others may be sick, too.

Do you know your water parameters using liquid test kits?

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Tivon 2

Tivon 2

White body is typically a sign of muscular necrosis/bacterial infection and hard to treat. It's recommended to remove these shrimp and quarantine. If necessary, see if the place you purchased from would exchange for healthier? But if one is sick, others may be sick, too.

Do you know your water parameters using liquid test kits?

I got them from aquatic arts so far only one is like this but it's slowly turning back to normal but he's acting like it's molding also I just got my water tested my pH is really high luckily I just lowered it

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sdlTBfanUK 92

sdlTBfanUK 92

Hi I really need some advice I recently got red rili shrimp and they all are acting normal but one of them is turning white and I'm a tad concerned is he molting some one told me we was but idk I'm just really scared cause my family doesn't have alot of money at all and it's hard to even by a plant for my tank i don't want to lose these guys and I really need some advice. Agian I'm broke and I can't rely on no body rn cause I don't get any support I'm always put down by family with this hobby. Dose anyone know if there just molting or something? One of my other shrimp are clear and colorful.

Good luck with this, hopefully it is just moulting which is normal (I haven't witnessed a moulting so not sure what that looks like, my tank is too desely planted and I'm sure they hide when doing it, but if yours isn't I guess they will do it out in the open) but if you don't have the resources to get lots of test kits you will just have to keep your fingers crossed to a certain extent, but if you can attach a photo the experts on here (that's not me) may be able to help a bit more. Maybe a bit more info as well about the tank, substrate, how long the shrimp have been in place, your maintenance regime may help also.

I tried watching a couple of youtube videos on moulting and they don't show the shell going white until it is shed?

Again, good luck! Has there been any development since yesterday?

Simon

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Zoidburg 124

Zoidburg 124

These are likely imported shrimp which are probably already stressed out by being imported from Taiwan (I think? not sure where they purchase their stock from), having to change water parameters at least 3 times, may have parasites and often have a failure to thrive even in the best of tanks in the USA.

Add in being in a tank that might have water that's too soft (only based on where the OP is - could be wrong) and unnecessary chemicals being thrown into the tank, I'm worried about the shrimp.

I hope we can get some concrete information so that we can help get the OP going in the right direction and hopefully avoid any disasters or fix them.

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Tivon 2

Tivon 2

Tivon, zoidburg is right we need to know specifics of your water parameters. Not just pH is high. That tells us nothing. We are here to help, but we need more info, and pictures. We cannot tell if your shrimp is moulting or infected with muscular necrosis.

Well my pH was 7.6. My amonia is a tad high. The nitrates are 0 and that's all I know when I got my water tested and I used pH down to lower the pH. I wish I had money to buy a kit but I have nothing

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Zoidburg 124

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You are better off tossing pH Down into the trash. It'll cause more harm than good and Neos can live in a tank with pH of 8 or higher. My tanks generally run at 7.5 pH. (it's blue on the low pH, orange on the high pH).

Do you have an LFS (not Petco, Petsmart or other chain store, but mom/pop fish shop) around you that can test everything including GH and KH?

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Zoidburg 124

Zoidburg 124

Yup. Local groups that meet in person if there are any near you as well.

I don't have any local fish groups to me (ones that meet in person), but I've been an avid bird keeper since I was a teen myself and had joined a local bird club which I've been going to on and off ever since. (I only more recently got into shrimp keeping anyway! Never was a fish enthusiast)

But I have joined some of the local FB groups and have gotten some free plants from them, too.

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sdlTBfanUK 92

sdlTBfanUK 92

You could try putting a request in the wanted to buy for some "unwanted or extra plants", I am sure someone over there would be happy to help and if not there is nothing lost. I know it says 'to buy', but if you explain your situation I HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS SOMEONE NEARER YOU WILLING TO HELP if all it costs them is the postage for some excess plants they don't want?????? WORTH A TRY, NOTHING LOST!

I am always discarding unwanted plants (usually just Java fern or Moss admittedly) soif you were in UKI would be more than pleased to donate/send some, but sending to US would be a bit too difficult/far unfortunately for me, plants etc ????

Good luck with it all!

Simon

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Cesar 33

Cesar 33

I had a heavily planted 65 gallon tank in the past and always threw away the clippings... that is, until a lightbulb went on and I started to take clippings and putting them in to plastic bags and trading them with local fish stores for supplies...

At the time, I was more than willing to give them away, so I am sure @Tivon can find clippings of plants and or trade with another hobbiest...

What sort of tank do you have? How many Litres? What substrate? Anything else in the tank? Filter? Heater? How many shrimps do you have? What water do you use? Do you use dechlorinator? What do you feed them? Tell us some more???

I think they moult when you change some/all water and PH 7.6 should be ok for rili shrimp, so follow Zoidburg advice and don't try and alter it with the Ph down any more!

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Thank you for the reply.
So I get that I will need to start again with fresh shrimp but can those shrimp go into the existing tank once all of the old colony have been removed? Is there any chance that the ellobiopsidae could harbour in any of the tank elements such as substrate and filter for example and therefore be introduced to the new shrimp?

Since "ellobiopsidae" aka "green fungus" aka "algae" can show up 3 or 6 months later, or even 2 years later, you either need to treat the entire tank and hope you eliminate it or or restart the tank with fresh blood. (new shrimp that are not from imports)

The reddit person's neighbor may have used high VOC paint which is more deadly. (primer typically has high VOC) Unfortunately without more details, it's hard to say. I've had shrimp die because roommate put a food grade bag into the microwave. It was not microwaveable safe. Three weeks later, neighbors bug bombed their place. Both incidents resulted in a massive die off....
chongkt another option maybe is to get an oxydator that creates oxygen *in* the tank, rather than pulling oxygen from the surrounding area.

First off, you want a substrate that buffers the pH down around 6.5 or below.
Second, the RO water or distilled as recommended. If you have soft water, then a cheap RO machine can work, although the replacement cartridges may be the same amount as a new machine. If you have hard water, then I would recommend a more expensive RO unit.
Third, you'll need GH minerals for shrimp. (no KH)
Make sure you have a liquid test kit that measures all water parameters, including GH and KH. A TDS meter with calibration solution is also recommended.
Sponge filters with an air pump can be used for filtration. It's recommended to get the type that suction to the side of the aquarium.