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Grayson wrote:Agreed but I don't think it will last long. There is no way that child protective services will allow Kang to keep homicidal twins with a weapon that can split a cosmic deity's head open.

fieldy snuts wrote:What? No what I'm saying is that axe was specifically enchanted to fight Celestials no more. Once it got past his armor Apocalypse was capable of surviving it because of his natural powers.

Its like, do you expect Wolverine to die because someone cleaves into him with an axe or do you expect him to heal from it?

The Axe was specifically enhanced to penetrate Apocalypse's armor, which was crafted by the Celestials.

The idea that Apocalypse could survive something that a Celestial could not is where the entire problem lies. At the end of the day you could make this work, but, not in one panel.

habitual wrote:The Axe was specifically enhanced to penetrate Apocalypse's armor, which was crafted by the Celestials.

The idea that Apocalypse could survive something that a Celestial could not is where the entire problem lies. At the end of the day you could make this work, but, not in one panel.

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you're not reading what i wrote, i'm saying it was meant to be a celestial's version of kryptonite: tears them apart and basically just another axe to anyone else. apocalypse has celestial armor that enhances his powers, he isn't A celestial.

It's like saying that a henchman is more powerful than the villain that hired him. Apocalypse was given his powers by the Celestials and it's been well established that he isn't as powerful as any one of them. Internal consistency is a very important thing in storytelling, and stories can begin to fall apart if a writer doesn't maintain it.

From my point of view when it comes to this axe, now that we've seen it kill a Celestial, I fear I'm going to be taken right out of the story every time it's used. If it split a Celestial's armour, why didn't it destroy that wall it hit when that hero ducked? If it split a Celstial's armour, why didn't it put a huge crater in the pavement after that hero moved out of the way? These sort of questions are going to come up quite often in my mind in the next few issues. I fear it's going to get really annoying and distracting.

In short, I hold firmly to the thought that showing the axe doing that this soon into the story was a really bad idea.

fieldy snuts wrote:you're not reading what i wrote, i'm saying it was meant to be a celestial's version of kryptonite: tears them apart and basically just another axe to anyone else. apocalypse has celestial armor that enhances his powers, he isn't A celestial.

If that's what is eventually shown than I'm fine with it. The problem is, that's not been established and as far as is known so far it's a hugely powerful weapon that can break Celestial armour.

fieldy snuts wrote:you're not reading what i wrote, i'm saying it was meant to be a celestial's version of kryptonite: tears them apart and basically just another axe to anyone else. apocalypse has celestial armor that enhances his powers, he isn't A celestial.

It would be like Lex Luthor discovering a magical enchantment that is fatal to Kryptonians. Whatever weapon he chose to use the enchantment on would be deadlier to Superman than it would be to a person who is simply wearing Kryptonian armor, especially if that person had a natural healing factor or could control the molecules in their body. Once the weapon cleaves the armor is stops being as effective because it is only enchanted to do extra damage to a specific type of physiology, whereas it would continue to harm someone or something of Kryptonian origin because that is its intended purpose.

fieldy snuts wrote:you're not reading what i wrote, i'm saying it was meant to be a celestial's version of kryptonite: tears them apart and basically just another axe to anyone else. apocalypse has celestial armor that enhances his powers, he isn't A celestial.

Yes, I did, I'm saying what your wrote isn't what happened.

The Axe was enchanted to fight Apocalypse, it worked on a Celestial because by extension Apocalypse's armor is Celestial technology. That was the whole idea behind Kang's manipulations.

Reading this comic you'd think Celestials were weaker than even Eternals.