Kate Gosselin and her 13 year-old twin daughters, Mady and Cara, were on The View yesterday. It’s very clear that Kate is fishing around for some kind of reality show for her family. Kate wants the lifestyle, she wants the cash and she wants the fame. Of course her ex husband, Jon Gosselin, is dead set against his kids being on TV again. It’s up to debate whether Jon has the best interests of his kids in mind or is just trying to stick it to Kate at every turn. I guess I wouldn’t blame him for that. Radar claims that Jon has no legal means to prevent his children from appearing on TV again, which we’ll discuss in a moment.

The last time we saw Kate get interviewed with her daughters, on The Today Show, the girls clammed up and didn’t say much. Kate got visibly angry at them, sneering that they should “use their words” and allegedly chewing them out backstage for not performing on cue. Jon issued a statement hinting that the girls were trying to get back at their mom for something. Many people who viewed the clip thought that the twins were acting defiant, not scared, in front of the camera.

On The View, the twins were more talkative. Their body language was uncomfortable and there were awkward moments, however, particularly when they were asked about their relationship with their father. Kate prompted them at times, and the girls often looked at their mother for help answering questions. Whoopi Goldberg said to them “don’t look at her,” when asking them a question about what they like to do for fun.

Barbra Walters asked the girls how they cope with having six little brothers and sisters and Kate said “Mady you’ve waited your whole life for this question.”

“You ruined my dramatic silence,” Mady quipped. She said that her siblings were “annoying, and it’s not just the group it’s every single one of them.”

Here’s a little more of what they said, and you can watch part of the interview, which cuts off a few minutes before the end, below:

On how they coped with their parents divorce
Mady – “Honestly, it wasn’t hard for us.

“I think it was harder for you, definitely [mom]. It didn’t really affect me and we still saw both parents. And we were little, we were eight or nine, so…we knew what was going on but we didn’t see the stuff.”

Kate – “I kept them sheltered. It’s necessary and I think it drew the nine of us so much closer. There’s really nothing off limits that we don’t talk about. Clearly, there’s hard times and strange discussions and probably not preferable things, but we’re very open.”

On if they want another reality show
Mady and Cara – “Yes.”

Guest Fantasia chimed in “One wants to sing”
Kate – “Definitely they’re branching out, becoming themselves and they, gosh, who can tell them what to say or do? They sort of tell me what to say and do.”

Again, Barbara asked if they wanted another reality show, just the three of them.
Kate – “We’d get more talk time Mady.”
Mady (sarcastically) – “Oh yeah.”

On if they see their dad
Mady – “Umm”
Kate – “Answer”
Mady looks at Kate, Kate holds up her hands, and then Barbara ends the interview.

Note Kate’s response to the fact that one of her daughters loves to sing. She doesn’t praise them, say they love music or talk about their talent. She bemoans the fact that she can’t control them.

When Barbara Walters concluded the interview by asking if they still see their dad, all Mady did was say “Umm,” and look at her mom uncomfortably. Kate snipped “Answer,” but Mady wasn’t taking the bait.

Radar has several follow-up stories that may shed some light on this. They claim that Jon is being a big hypocrite for trying to keep his kids off TV, because he supposedly made a legal deal with Kate that he would no longer have to pay child support, as long as he signed away his rights to veto his children’s media careers. Radar’s source says “That is Jon and Kate’s child support agreement. He’s being so hypocritical acting like he only wants the best for his children by keeping them off TV, when really he basically sold them.” They also claim that Mady and Cara haven’t seen their dad for a whole nine months! If that’s the case, who do you think is responsible? I doubt the girls are making that decision on their own, I’m sure it’s all Kate.

If you’re in the US you can watch some of the interview below. They did cut out the part where the girls are asked about their father. You can see that on Hulu’s full episode at around 21:00.

Also, check out Whoopi Goldberg’s outfit. She’s wearing high-heel Crocks, right? I have never seen shoes like that, but if anyone can wear them, it’s Whoopi.

As much as I think Kate’s actions have been reprehensible, if Jon has visitation outlined in the custody agreement, Kate can’t just stop allowing that without repercussions. If it’s true that Jon hasn’t seen them in 9 months, it’s more likely that he chose to forego visitation because he was away filming his reality show or whatever.

Jon adores his kids…not the case. If you didn’t already know, Kate doesn’t allow any of her kids to see their own grandparents. This is all about Kate and her control and her poisoning of young minds to further her control.

And yet Kate’s controlling nature cannot supersede the law. If a visitation agreement is in place, Kate cannot legally prevent Jon from visiting. All he would need to do is a) threaten to bring the matter to court or b) bring the matter to the media’s attention, causing Kate some embarrassment (wait, can she be embarrassed?) and then he could see them. In this situation, I think he’s also responsible for not visiting his children.

BLA, I agree that Kate’s controlling nature cannot supersede the law (someone who actually knows how to spell supersede…rare).

Aside from that, it’s not my point…if it’s true Jon has not seen them in nine (9) months (and I’m not sure it is), it’s because Kate has poisoned the twins’ young, impressionable minds, and, as a result, they have made that decision for themselves.

I didn’t see People, but I think that “Growing Up Gosselin” logo thingy was shown on each TV interview and I think the magazine. So my money says she’s trying to geta reality show about the three of them pitched.

The View was taped on the same day that the Today Show interview was on. And apparently they didn’t change, which surprises me.

Kate is so controlling, she can barely stand to let them answer for themselves. It’s nice to see them looking a little more at ease than in the last interview.
I don’t believe that the divorce did not affect them. Maybe Mady tells herself that now, at age 13, but it will affect her throughout her life, especially because it was ugly and public. I feel like Kate would tell them “oh the divorce didn’t affect you, you were young and I’m SUCH a great mom that I sheltered you from all that”, and because they are young and impressionable they buy that. But the whole mess must affect them and will do so as they grow. Poor girls.

So I actually watched their show when it was Kate & Jon and yes I do believe that Jon DOES have his kids best interest at heart as he was the only one of the two parents who was actually a care giver to them while Kate just sat on her ass and barked orders. And let us NOT forget that they had “helpers” even before their show was on the air thanks to their church. I think that Kate is a liar and is looking for more shows where she can garner yet more fame. It is truly my wish that the media woud stop giving peope like Kate, actually all so-called reality people the time of day so that they will all just go away,.

The two girls seem almost devoid of personalities and are obviously afraid of their Mother. Why are they making the talk show rounds again? To follow up their BS People article and so that Kate can shill for another reality show? I’ve said this before, but media outlets keep giving this psycho a platform and they are contributing to her delusion that she can get her 15 minutes back. Jon has his issues, but if the girls haven’t seen him for 9 months, I’m certain that it’s Kate doing and that she won’t be happy until she alienates all of the children from their Father, She is estranged from her entire family and basically has no friends herself, so her kids have no contact with their grandparents, aunts, uncles or cousins. With her rigid rules and fear of mess, I can’t imagine that she lets the kids have friends over to play either. When Jon says that they don’t know how to interact with others, I believe him.

I agree about media outlets contributing to this delusion. She apparently thinks it’s time for renewed interest because the two girls are teens.

I felt a little bad for hinting at it in a comment above, but they do seem to lack a true spark of personality (at least that they feel free to display). I think the whole “we’re so normal and happy” line is far from true.

Exactly. I don’t buy the “we’re so normal and happy” at all. People who have to go on and on about being happy, never are. The public knows she’s a shrew and parading the kids out to say she’s a great Mom won’t change anyone’s mind. Does Kate have no shame at all? The kids potty trained on tv and now she wants to exploit Mady and Cara’s teen years. She’s the worst.

The lack of personality is typical of people (not just kids, adults too) who have been abused, either physically, emotionally or both. They are so terrified of angering their abuser that they just shut down. You’ll find the same behaviour in prisoners of war or concentration camp victims, trying desperately to please their captors just to avoid punishment.

No, we do not need another Kate plus Mady and Cara reality show. Kate is annoying and the girls are not in the least bit interesting or articulate. I know it is pointless to say this, but Kate needs to stop pushing for another reality show. Shows about multiple kids, twins or whatever is old news.

Kate acts void of any motherly feelings towards her kids. She’s another Kriss Jenner, but more colder. The more damage control she sets out to do by pimping her kids off to any daytime talk show that will book them, the worse she is coming off. Those kids do not need to be on air, they need normalcy. Finish school, go to college and experience a normal life. They have been in front of the cameras most of their life and I don’t think tv is suited to them anymore. I don’t believe they want to be on tv any longer, just conditioned to say to it.

This is more about Kate’s dream and that’s why imo she wants the kids back on TV because she knows without the kids she has no chance of reclaiming the charmed life and star quality she had before. I dislike Jon, but know he was always the better parent out of the two. They seem frightened of Kate, always looked miserable when photographed with her after the split, but with Jon they seemed content, relaxed with smiles on their faces. Those kids might have had it better living with him. I doubt they would have looked to him for approval every single time when answering questions and fearing they’d get the answer wrong when doing interviews. That was so unnerving to watch, makes you wonder what is going on behind closed doors.
The truth about Kate will eventually come home to roost, I have a feeling all of it being negative eggs, will hatch.

Very odd. I think it’s pretty clear the children haven’t seen Jon. Otherwise, one of them would have said, “Yes, we see him every other weekend.” Or “He comes every Wednesday and makes us dinner.” I feel really bad for those kids, a mother like Kate and a father who appears to have abandon them. I agree with other posters, there is no way Kate could keep Jon away from the children without him being in some way compliance in the agreement. Really looking forward to Maddie and Cara’s tell all book in 5 years time. It’s coming, they’ll need the funds for either their college education or therapy.

I’m trying to be horrified but…eh. If this interview happened a little after the other one, it looks more like they were nervous during the first one and loosened up a bit for this one. They have done these interviews before- maybe they knew someone on The View and were more comfortable. Kate also interacted with them more in this interview which take from that what you will.

I thought Mady almost had to stop herself from gluing herself to Kate’s side when they first sat down. Reading the stuff above, I thought they looked at Kate after being asked about activities. Whoopi asked them if they were on Facebook or Twitter and they looked at Kate to answer. That doesn’t surprise me- I’m sure they have very strict rules about who knows they are on social media and who they interact with. They would be sitting ducks for the tabloids if they didn’t.

Mady is clearly the more outgoing of the two and I’m guessing a lot closer to Kate. They seemed normal as sisters to me. They didn’t seem traumatized or beaten down. They seemed like 13 year old girls. Middle school sucks. I would be more suspicious if they were easily out going and well spoken with no attitude. I have no doubt that these kids will have issues in their future stemming from both of their parents but I didn’t see the awful situation with their mother here that others apparently did. It also explains a LOT that they still see a lot of the people on the camera crew that they grew up with.

While I doubt Radar stories just on principle I don’t doubt that story because it’s Jon. I’ve heard that the official ‘story’ is supposed to be that Jon doesn’t pay support because he provides for them when he has them but that doesn’t sound like any custody agreement I’ve ever heard. He obviously doesn’t have primary custody so why isn’t he paying support? This arrangement sounds like both of them honestly. And how many times have we said that if a parent really wanted to see their minor child, they would be fighting to? Jon may not be a monster but that doesn’t mean he isn’t worthless as a dad. Has anyone seen him on Celebrity Rehab? He’s disgusting.

I can imagine Kate making sure the girls know that any real fun time they’re allowed to have is IF it was done during a TV show excursion. Also, I would believe it if Kate’s been pestering, nagging, complaining, moaning, etc about all the troubles they’re having, especially financially, because they’re not on TV anymore. That’s probably why in both interviews, the only time the girls seem excited and happy is when they answer in the affirmative about wanting to be on TV again. This is Kate. Her whole life is about being on TV & the money that comes from it, and if she has to get her children to shill for her to get a deal, then she’ll do whatever psychological warfare & manipulation at home to make the kids try hard to get back on TV again. She knows that nobody wants to hire just Kate. Look at Dancing With the Stars. Her personality isn’t appealing. She needs to use those kids in order to try to get back on TV.

The View interview came on the same day as the Today interview, so the kids were still dealing with the fallout from that, no time to figure things out. I would guess they were lock step with whatever their mom told them to say this time, since her off-camera rage about the previous interview was very fresh in their minds.

I don’t think their silence about seeing their dad means they don’t. They just know he’s a huge trigger point for mom and there was no safe way to say anything about it. And Kate was able to take custody time from Jon any time she wanted in the past, just by scheduling stuff for their tv show when it was actually his time with them, and she’s been able to keep him from calling them when they’re with her. He’s complained to the court but the judge let her do whatever she wanted. At this point, the kids might need to either use burner phones or just use their school friends phones, but how long has it been since they’ve been in school? If Kate is actively promoting another show, she might have them essentially on lockdown as far as we know to avoid trouble. It’s all so abnormal. Those kids may be disturbingly isolated.

Kate may be a domineering, controlling woman but Jon is no better as a parent or as a human being. Interesting that he sold out his children in exchange for not paying any child support. Hasn’t seen his kids for 9 months? He’s a spineless man.

“They also claim that Mady and Cara haven’t seen their dad for a whole nine months! If that’s the case, who do you think is responsible? I doubt the girls are making that decision on their own, I’m sure it’s all Kate.”

Or maybe Jon is a deadbeat who doesn’t want to see them? If he’s willing to let them be on tv just so he doesn’t have to pay child support (even though he says he’s totally against them being on tv for their own good), do you really think he gives a crap about spending time with them?

Kate has the severest case of bitchface I’ve ever seen, bar none. It’s almost impressive. Imagine what a horrid co-worker she’d make? What she’s like behind closed doors is frightening to imagine. I hope her kids are keeping very good journals for their Mommy Dearest book that will come out in about 5 years. She’s such a famewhore, I bet she’d love the notoriety, as she does now. Whatever pays the bills, I guess.