I don't like this move one bit! Does this mean he will be projected as a RB on the next level come draft time?

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Originally Posted by JoeJoeBrown
The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62ATL College Park Zone 3* +20 swagger Bonus pts

This should be interesting, and with Mario Pender being ruled academically ineligible, we need depth behind Freeman now that Wilder had an injury scare with his shoulder.

Shylo - I would think so if this move sticks.

His value isn't going to be high at all when he decides to come out.

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Originally Posted by JoeJoeBrown
The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62ATL College Park Zone 3* +20 swagger Bonus pts

Clearly if Wilder goes down and Freeman is the only guy that is an issue. Surprising that Hunter beat on Williams but Brooks was greatly improved off last year and my guess is Karlos bulked up too much in the off season and became stiff and slow in coverage. If I am not mistaken he did play on defense against Pitt but it looked like he played linebacker and seemed at least 10-20 pounds heavier.

Telvin Smith looked great at linebacker, Jones is a star and Terrance Smith is not too bad either so doubt he would see much time at linebacker unless one of those guys goes down, and they got some decent younger players there as well.

Sure would love to see him stay at safety but if he had that much trouble and was beat out, better he gets on the field than sits on the bench I guess. He had the job at safety and he lost it so no one is to blame but him.

Loved that toughness and potential at safety but the coaches at Florida State are not stupid, if he could play safety effectively especially in coverage he would be.

Clearly if Wilder goes down and Freeman is the only guy that is an issue. Surprising that Hunter beat on Williams but Brooks was greatly improved off last year and my guess is Karlos bulked up too much in the off season and became stiff and slow in coverage. If I am not mistaken he did play on defense against Pitt but it looked like he played linebacker and seemed at least 10-20 pounds heavier.

Telvin Smith looked great at linebacker, Jones is a star and Terrance Smith is not too bad either so doubt he would see much time at linebacker unless one of those guys goes down, and they got some decent younger players there as well.

Sure would love to see him stay at safety but if he had that much trouble and was beat out, better he gets on the field than sits on the bench I guess. He had the job at safety and he lost it so no one is to blame but him.

Loved that toughness and potential at safety but the coaches at Florida State are not stupid, if he could play safety effectively especially in coverage he would be.

People tend to remember Karlos Williams was a 5* while Tyler Hunter was a 3*, thing with Hunter is before his senior season he was a potential 5* as well but missed most of his senior year (if not all) with an injury. Some always thought Karlos Williams was best off on offense as he isn't really a read and react athlete.

The biggest concern is how will he fare next season if both Freeman and Wilder return?

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Originally Posted by JoeJoeBrown
The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62ATL College Park Zone 3* +20 swagger Bonus pts

FSU is recruiting with the assumption Wilder and Pender are not there in 2014.

Well I would at least like to see Karlos play a full season as the starter.

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Originally Posted by JoeJoeBrown
The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62ATL College Park Zone 3* +20 swagger Bonus pts

I don't think Pender will ever play a down for us and Wilder will be gone if he puts up a solid season.

So does that mean he should be penciled in as the starter next year?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeJoeBrown
The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62ATL College Park Zone 3* +20 swagger Bonus pts

Now that I sit back and look at his situation, I'd rather see him move to LB.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeJoeBrown
The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62ATL College Park Zone 3* +20 swagger Bonus pts

Guys that are successful returning kicks seem like guys that have the requisite speed/quickness to cover, get open... whatever. They are sudden and agile. When a kick returner has that kind of size, he's a hell of an athletic specimen, and physical skills will never be an issue. Whether the technique ever catches up is another matter.

karlos williams is a terrible defensive player...can't cover anyone and even in garbage time got beat deep. the only way he sees the field is changing to offense because it's only a matter of time before everyone comes to the realization karlos williams couldn't defend division 3 players.

karlos williams is a terrible defensive player...can't cover anyone and even in garbage time got beat deep. the only way he sees the field is changing to offense because it's only a matter of time before everyone comes to the realization karlos williams couldn't defend division 3 players.

Hopefully he turns into the next Fred Taylor.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeJoeBrown
The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62ATL College Park Zone 3* +20 swagger Bonus pts

Originally Posted by JoeJoeBrown
The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62ATL College Park Zone 3* +20 swagger Bonus pts

Originally Posted by JoeJoeBrown
The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62ATL College Park Zone 3* +20 swagger Bonus pts

Originally Posted by JoeJoeBrown
The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62ATL College Park Zone 3* +20 swagger Bonus pts

Originally Posted by JoeJoeBrown
The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62ATL College Park Zone 3* +20 swagger Bonus pts