well I was planning on just getting 3 of each disc (1 pro/X 1 champ/Z and 1 Star/ESP) and throwing them in a field and/or at a course (probably Va-Du-Mar). I would probably have to artificially season the Pro/Mill versions of the PD and OLF to compare it to an Avey.

I'm planning this "pepsi challenge" for some mid ranges this fall/winter.

well y'all have seen my stack of Avengers. I'm too vested and too lazy to switch. I was just trying to fight boredom. My Buzzzes have been messing with my head lately and that's why I'm doing the pepsi challenge with mids.

I use the Hornet for a stable to overstable mid and I am satisfied with them. The buzzzes are okay but they just aren't doing what I remember them doing. I also throw putter A LOT since the courses here are shorter on average. I mean I used to play Zebulon at least twice a week and throw Avenger on about 9 holes. the courses here I throw Polecat for at least 9 holes.

The Avenger (once beat) had a great flip up flight to it. But didn't have the straight finish I wanted, instead it usually turned over and held. I have some new ones with higher PLH's that are pure BEEF though and very awesome. I could power through most headwinds with them, it made my preds seem not as special.

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I will admit you have to hold your mouth right to get the Avey to finish straight. I have a couple of pre doss sig X Aveys that will finish straight. the rest fade out or finish right. I really like the finish right capability since my forehand tops out at about 300 (flexing a force).