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OT: OK So Maybe The CBA Won't Be Ratified...

From the day the owners and players agreed on a deal to end the lockout, it has been widely believed that the new Collective Bargaining Agreement would be ratified by August 4. But it’s now August 3, and ratification is no sure thing.

In fact, Steelers defensive back Ryan Clark, the team’s NFLPA representative, says that unless NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell is willing to budge on matters of player discipline, the CBA won’t be ratified tomorrow.

Re: OT: OK So Maybe The CBA Won't Be Ratified...

Kudos for him to trying to change the culture and not let the thugs and miscreants become common place in the league.

He may not be right all the time, but he is doing far better then Tags in the discipline department.

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Here's hoping that Goodell shows backbone and sticks to his cleaning up the thuggery in the NFL.

Regardless, the players want to play ball; this should be a mere nuisance. At most, I could see a Frank Robinson type of disciplinarian appointed by the league, whose decisions could be appealed to the Commissioner.

In a 2003 BBC poll that asked Brits to name the "Greatest American Ever", Mr. T came in fourth, behind ML King (3rd), Abe Lincoln (2nd) and Homer Simpson (1st).

Regardless, the players want to play ball; this should be a mere nuisance. At most, I could see a Frank Robinson type of disciplinarian appointed by the league, whose decisions could be appealed to the Commissioner.

I can buy that.

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It's completely bizarre to me that (a) the Commissioner, instead of a lackey, hands out the discipline. I get it we want him to be tough, but surely he has a hatchet man somewhere who can be tough on his behalf.

It's further bizarre to me that (b) you *do*, as the player, get to appeal the disciplinary action, in which case you get to go right back to the guy who gave it to you.

It's all kinds of bizarre. I'm completely in favor of having hard asses in the league office crack down on thuggery in the league. I am *completely* in favor of that.

But the NFL disciplinary system is all kinds of bizarre.

Festivus

His definitions and arguments were so clear in his own mind that he was unable to understand how any reasonable person could honestly differ with him.

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Originally Posted by RavensNTerps

as a generality Goodell really does suck.

I can't understand the anti-Goodell sentiment. He has led a group of 32 widely different owners into 10 years of labor peace. He has cleaned up (somewhat) the NFL's image. Within that upcoming decade, I expect to see, under Goodell's leadership: the NFL's revenues doubled, international games expanded, TV ratings going up higher, football returned to the 2nd largest metro area, and halving the exhibition rip-off.

Betcha Goodell makes the HOF before Tags!

In a 2003 BBC poll that asked Brits to name the "Greatest American Ever", Mr. T came in fourth, behind ML King (3rd), Abe Lincoln (2nd) and Homer Simpson (1st).

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Originally Posted by Mista T

I can't understand the anti-Goodell sentiment. He has led a group of 32 widely different owners into 10 years of labor peace. He has cleaned up (somewhat) the NFL's image. Within that upcoming decade, I expect to see, under Goodell's leadership: the NFL's revenues doubled, international games expanded, TV ratings going up higher, football returned to the 2nd largest metro area, and halving the exhibition rip-off.

Betcha Goodell makes the HOF before Tags!

He's a terrible PR person. He's terrible at masking the NFL's big business intentions. He's not carefully walking the tightrope of money grab and PR. His "discipline" is uneven and bullshit. He's greedy as fuck and he takes the NFL's popularity for granted. You can see a trend downward for the league. It's slow, for sure, but it is slipping. Every year there are a few more smoke signals. More teams that aren't selling out. More fans giving up easier. It won't happen over night but if Goodell keeps operating as he is he will fly too close to the sun.