Image, specs, and price of an LG G4c leak out, it's a smaller, less powerful G4

"Mini" versions of flagships, with lesser hardware and a more affordable price tag, are nothing new, even though we haven't yet seen an HTC One M9 mini or Samsung Galaxy S6 mini. We won't be seeing an LG G4 mini, either, because that's not how the company rolls. Instead, it affixes a lowercase "s" at the end of the name to signify a phone's position as the budget option that takes after its flagship. So last year we had the LG G3 s. Now, however, it's looking like LG is going in a slightly different direction with a device called LG G4c.

We surmise as much from a number of new online listings on German seller's sites, all of which refer to an LG G4c (H525N). Obviously, an LG G4 s could still be somewhere in the pipeline, but we can't be sure of it at this point. What seems far safer to assume is that the G4c is a budget-friendly mid-ranger that takes after the G4 flagship.

If true, what deal is LG proposing? Well, for anywhere between €279 and €300, you're getting a 5-incher with 720 x 1280 pixel resolution IPS screen (294 ppi), a quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 410 processor, 1GB of RAM, 8GB of expandable storage, and a 2,540 mAh juicer. On the imaging front, we're looking at an 8-megapixel main camera with an LED flash sidekick, and a generous, 5-megapixel selfie snapper up front. The config is powered by Android 5.0 Lollipop, no doubt with LG's own UX 4.0 skin on top of it.

It's not a terrible deal, but neither is it a great one, especially when you consider much cheaper options such as the Moto G. Granted, Motorola's mid-range warrior is slightly less impressive hardware-wise, but it currently sells for €179 on Amazon.de, which is a significant discount. With that in mind, would pick a G4c if it comes to market with said specs and at said price?

Eh. I had both the Alpha and Z3 compact and I sold the Z3 compact in one week and just recently sold my Alpha.

The Exynos Alpha with almost the same processor as the Note 4 flew and was gorgeous. Sure it didn't have waterproofing or the huge battery but neither do most 2015 flagships.

The Alpha was crazier than the Z3 compact where it counts. 20nm state if the art chip set and sexy and slim 6.8mm design. It was much nicer than the chunky Z3 compact.

Of course I ended up using the regular 5.2 inch Z3 over both, mainly because I need 1080p and thin. But if I were to pick one compact, I would pick the Alpha over the Z3 compact any day. The Alpha had thin and the Z3 compact had neither.

The Alpha flat out flew, was gorgeous, and the battery surprisingly lasted for such a small battery.

In my opinion extremely thin devices are actually very uncomfortable to hold... Even my "chunky" Z3 Compact feels a bit better (regarding a safe hold) with its Ringke Fusion case... though sometimes I take it off, the feel is nicer without it.

What it really counts IMO is not the slightly better performance of the Alpha, but actually the waterproofing capabilities since my phone has already taken quite a few showers, immersions, raindrops and splashes, be it on purpose or accidentally.

Also while the camera on the Alpha is very good and actually surpasses the Z3C on certain situations, the Z3C has better Slow Motion, video recording and Low Light images, specially when you learn to use its modes.

For me also counts having an eyelet hole for wrist straps because that prevents falls, and its better than having a case (and hoping it doesn't break if it falls)... it's been almost a MUST feature for me and my phones for a while, and sadly only Sony still offers it.

Finally 32GB is enough for most people, but I live in a country with s**tty internet so Cloud services are use limited (for docs and maybe pictures, but not for music or video) so I keep large amounts of music and movies on my devices and having an SD card slot is also a must for me.

PS: I did recommend the Alpha to a couple of friends... both were still using the Galaxy S2... One of them actually got the Z1 Compact and the other might in fact get the Alpha

I'm seriously disappointed, I was waiting for SD610/615, 2GB od RAM, FHD display and 13MPix camera. Lower specs than in the G4 but still decent midranger. SD410 and 1GB od RAM is not a midranger now, it's a low end phone. No progress from G2 mini, basically identical specs you can find in much cheaper LG G3s or Spirit/Magna.

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