I'm trying to perfect my boutique bow. I want it to look like the one in the instructions above that mindy laid out with pictures. But I don't know how many inches of ribbon she uses. Right now I have been making my small toddler bows with 17" of 7/8" ribbon. The come out cute, but I can't make the exaggerated loops with that short of ribbon. They just come out looking like a normal flat bow. How much ribbon to use use in a nice loopy boutique bow? Thanks!