Communications Chair of Sacramento County Dems Wishes Death on Cruz Speech... [W:81]

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Re: Dems keep it classy

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The baiting, flaming, and trolling RAMPANT throughout this thread needs to end NOW.

This is not the basement, and we don't need personal critiques of individual posters. The topic is the comments made by the Comm. Chair of Sacremento's Democratic Party...it's not abortion, it's not voting rights. There's an ENTIRE FORUM for the former, and there's a multitude of posts for the later. Continued attempts to derail, since that's largely what has led to the Baiting/Flaming/Trolling, will be met with action

Originally Posted by MrWonka

In fact, I would wager to you that within 10 years of today's date that stupid MAGA hat will be registered as a symbol of hate on par with a Swastika.

Re: Dems keep it classy

EDIT: same deal as below

Last edited by Gina; 09-20-13 at 07:19 PM.

I don't attack my constituents. Bob is my constituent now.
This is the important stuff. We can’t get lost in discrimination. We can’t get lost in B.S. We can’t get lost tearing each other down. I want to make a point here that no matter what you look like, where you come from, how you worship, who you love, how you identify, and yeah, how you run, that if you have good public policy ideas, if you are well qualified for office, bring those ideas to the table, because this is your America, too. This is our commonwealth of Virginia, too.

Danica Roem - The nation's first openly transgender person elected to serve in a U.S. state legislature.

Re: Dems keep it classy

there has been a very focused effort to confuse people about it and scare people about it

. So even if that is accurate, most people don't want it,

how do we assure ourselves that we are actually following an informed consensus

?

Well ... I've heard Obama (today, in fact) and Pelosi and any number of MSNBC personnel make the same claim but they never directly address what they say is misinformation. They just insist it is.
That should be a red flag for anyone.
So if a person is truly curious about what they've been hearing and don't want to merely be an Obama automaton, they're left to investigate the claims on their own.
Have you done that?

Re: Dems keep it classy

Originally Posted by bubbabgone

Well ... I've heard Obama (today, in fact) and Pelosi and any number of MSNBC personnel make the same claim but they never directly address what they say is misinformation. They just insist it is.
That should be a red flag for anyone.
So if a person is truly curious about what they've been hearing and don't want to merely be an Obama automaton, they're left to investigate the claims on their own.
Have you done that?

I've done so much reading on ACA I'm bleeding out my ears.(so..good thing I'll have coverage in January)

Example: Mostly scare tactics like
Wasn't someone squawking about death panels at onetime? Hmmmm....who was that again....hmmmm. Some called it Socialism (ooohhh scary). Some claimed that the plan increases taxes on the middle class ....

"Judge a man by his questions rather than his answers" - Voltaire
"There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow men. True nobility lies in being superior to your former self" -Hemingway

Re: Dems keep it classy

Originally Posted by opendebate

I've done so much reading on ACA I'm bleeding out my ears.(so..good thing I'll have coverage in January)

Example: Mostly scare tactics like
Wasn't someone squawking about death panels at onetime? Hmmmm....who was that again....hmmmm. Some called it Socialism (ooohhh scary). Some claimed that the plan increases taxes on the middle class ....

Did you miss where a judge had to step in to overrule Sebelius relating to the minor needing a lung transplant?

I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...

Originally Posted by James D Hill

I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

Re: Dems keep it classy

I've done so much reading on ACA I'm bleeding out my ears.(so..good thing I'll have coverage in January)

Example: Mostly scare tactics like
Wasn't

someone squawking about death panels

at onetime? Hmmmm....who was that again....hmmmm. Some called it Socialism (ooohhh scary). Some claimed that the plan increases taxes on the middle class ....

Good example of what I was talking about ... here you go.

ObamaCare’s cost-cutting board — memorably called a “death panel” by Sarah Palin — is facing growing opposition from Democrats who say it will harm people on Medicare.

Former Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean drew attention to the board designed to limit Medicare cost growth when he called for its repeal in an op-ed late last month.

Dean was quickly criticized by supporters of the Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB), who noted his ties to the healthcare industry as an adviser to a major D.C. lobbying firm.

But the former Vermont governor is not the only Democrat looking to kill the panel.

A wave of vulnerable Democrats over the past three months has signed on to bills repealing the board’s powers, including Sen. Mark Pryor (Ark.) and Reps. Ron Barber (Ariz.), Ann Kirkpatrick (Ariz.), Kyrsten Sinema (Ariz.) and Elizabeth Esty (Conn.).

All five are considered vulnerable in next year’s election, highlighting the stakes and the political angst surrounding the healthcare measure.
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Re: Dems keep it classy

ObamaCare’s cost-cutting board — memorably called a “death panel” by Sarah Palin — is facing growing opposition from Democrats who say it will harm people on Medicare.

Former Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean drew attention to the board designed to limit Medicare cost growth when he called for its repeal in an op-ed late last month.

Dean was quickly criticized by supporters of the Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB), who noted his ties to the healthcare industry as an adviser to a major D.C. lobbying firm.

But the former Vermont governor is not the only Democrat looking to kill the panel.

A wave of vulnerable Democrats over the past three months has signed on to bills repealing the board’s powers, including Sen. Mark Pryor (Ark.) and Reps. Ron Barber (Ariz.), Ann Kirkpatrick (Ariz.), Kyrsten Sinema (Ariz.) and Elizabeth Esty (Conn.).

All five are considered vulnerable in next year’s election, highlighting the stakes and the political angst surrounding the healthcare measure.
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