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Is there a reason the DirecTV box deletes channels from favorites, but doesn't replace them with the HD version? They are the same number.

Everytime DirecTV changes a channel to HD I have to add them back to my favorites.

same here

Satteliteracer, could you open a bug report on this for us? I will send error reports from all my receivers and post in the issues thread later when I get home and get some time.

It is not really a bug. An inconvenience, perhaps, but the reality is that although they have the same virtual number they are, in fact, different channels. If you show all channels and do not hide SD duplicates, you will see that you can tune to either channel. As far as the receiver is concerned, they are different.

It is similar to the situation when the OTA channels switch frequencies, but the virtual number remains the same. You must rescan to continue to find the same virtual channel because it is on a different real frequency.

BTW, you also have to change all of your series links. Otherwise, even if you have the HD channel hidden, you will continue to record the SD channel.

Well finally got a chance to look at some of these new channels. They all look fantastic! Can't wait for the second batch... That'll be the better half.

Keep the new HD coming! I'll stay subscribed to SIXTO's threads so I will know when to edit my favorites list.

DirecTV made these beautiful hi-res banners saying LMN is in HD, Investigation discovery is in HD and TVLand is in HD. Funny thing is that you don't see them at all unless you add the new HD channels in the first place! Since the HD versions are not auto added, people will never see the banners! It pays to be a DBSTalk member!

...DirecTV made these beautiful hi-res banners saying LMN is in HD, Investigation discovery is in HD and TVLand is in HD. Funny thing is that you don't see them at all unless you add the new HD channels in the first place! Since the HD versions are not auto added, people will never see the banners! It pays to be a DBSTalk member!

Logos intact this round, learning from all this testing I see!

True for some, but I see the banners and I didn't add the new channels. I have favorites set to channels I get, so the new channels and the banners are in my guide. And the majority of the DIRECTV subscribers probably don't even use favorites, unlike the users that post here. So they are seeing them as well.

DirecTV made these beautiful hi-res banners saying LMN is in HD, Investigation discovery is in HD and TVLand is in HD. Funny thing is that you don't see them at all unless you add the new HD channels in the first place! Since the HD versions are not auto added, people will never see the banners! It pays to be a DBSTalk member!

Logos intact this round, learning from all this testing I see!

It really doesn't make any sense. The DVR should automatically add the new HD channels into your favorites if you have them already in your favorites.

The only way other people are going to know the new channels are there is when Direct sends the message.

It really doesn't make any sense. The DVR should automatically add the new HD channels into your favorites if you have them already in your favorites.

The only way other people are going to know the new channels are there is when Direct sends the message.

This was already explained. It can't add something to your favorites list that didn't exist before. Despite the SD and HD versions of a channel having the same channel number, the two are entirely separate from one another.

That is correct. They are the same "viewer" channel to the consumer, but in reality they aren't the same channel.

True for some, but I see the banners and I didn't add the new channels. I have favorites set to channels I get, so the new channels and the banners are in my guide. And the majority of the DIRECTV subscribers probably don't even use favorites, unlike the users that post here. So they are seeing them as well.

Channels I get seems to be flawed. I tried it before on both a HR24 and an H24, but it consistently shows a ton of channels I don't get. Not only that but I weed out all the shopping and infomercial crap.

I think there could be an extra row in the channel table which would specify reference channel or a channel pairing. This row would have the same value stored in it for ID and IDHD for example. Then the software would have something to key off of to understand the channel relationship. But I would think it has something like this in the database already. How else would it know a channel is an HD duplicate of an SD channel? There already has to be logic built into the system for that in which they could reuse to query when channels are added or moved.

Anyway I had 1 receiver where the SD channels stayed in the guide and my other one completely removed these 3 new channels (SD AND HD). Both set to hide HD dupes and both set to a favorites list called FAVS.

I'm excited for H2 and Cooking as well as Encore Action. The others were a bonus, but glad to get 'em!

Would still like to see Encore Drama added in HD at some point as well as any of the missing premiums (including Epix). Since Chiller in HD is up in the air as to whether it really exists or not, I'll throw my hat in the ring for FearNet.

If you judge a fish on its ability to climb a tree, you will live your whole life believing it is stupid.

All well and good but we are not talking about a $.10 a month channel. When the channel costs a couple bucks, niche programming is not what drives it. (Football is not niche programming, BTW.)

The relative success of a team may have significant impact on the appeal of a channel that shows their games. If the team is a perennial bottom-dweller, the channel may well be niche even if it is a big three sport.

Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought. -- JFK

The relative success of a team may have significant impact on the appeal of a channel that shows their games. If the team is a perennial bottom-dweller, the channel may well be niche even if it is a big three sport.

This was already explained. It can't add something to your favorites list that didn't exist before. Despite the SD and HD versions of a channel having the same channel number, the two are entirely separate from one another.

Great. But it's a feature that could exist, it's something obviously other people and myself would enjoy. If the DVR automatically removes the SD version you have in your favorites when an HD version is added it would seem, looking at this from a user who appreciates well thought out interfaces, that the DVR could be programmed so if a HD channel popped up it would automatically replace the SD favorite with the HD one in your guide, in addition to updating series links. It's not like it would be impossible to create. Your 86 posts in this thread saying they are separate channels does not explain why this would not be a nice feature to have, nor does it help anyone.