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Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

Originally Posted by poweRob

So you want to get personal huh? Let's put a little grey area into your black and white world view.

Here ya go. Che was a ****ing murdering douche that I can't stand. How does this fit into your boxed in view of the world? Me, a hard core leftist who hates Che. I also don't like Fidel Castro. Raul... don't know the guy. There ya go. Got your fill of me personally now?

Yes, I do and thank you for that.

Watching all you righties line up to throw your disdain towards Raul simply because he holds the same last name when we all know you don't know a damn thing about him... THAT's funny. Now google him up and pretend like you always knew everything about him in your next post.

Perhaps you can point to the kinder, gentler side of Raul Castro and how he rebelled against his brothers tyranny over the decades, refusing all the splendor Fidel enjoyed. That should be on google as well.

Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

It is unfortunate that our embargo has hurt the production of Cuban cigars, but I look forward to the influx of Cuban cigars in the future. Cuban cigars wrapped in Connecticut Leaf Tobacco.

I've talked to cigar aficionados and they say that because of over production the land in Cuba has been 'leached' because of overproduction with the best tobacco is from Nicaragua. There is also a lot of counterfeit Cuban cigars which are just terrible, but the boxes look quite authentic.

Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

Originally Posted by Mason66

Who cares what Bush did?

This is about Castro. Do you have an opinion on what Obama did here?

Right wing partisans don't care what Bush did because of the R behind his name. When a president does the same thing with a D behind his name, they suddenly care very much. And the reverse is true of course as well. Which is what frustrates progress in America. But rah rah your team Mason.

Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

Originally Posted by Montecresto

In his column on July 13 with the Russia-based website, Strategic Culture Foundation, Wayne Madsen pointed out that "Barack Obama has made it one of the linchpins of his administration to identify, prosecute, and imprison national security whistle-blowers. Obama has charged more government employees under the provisions of the antiquated 1917 Espionage Act than all of his predecessors combined. Edward Snowden was the seventh person charged with violating the Espionage Act after he released to the Guardian and the Washington Post classified documents from the NSA revealing the extent of U.S. communication surveillance of the Internet, phone calls, text messages, and Skype communications within the United States and around the world."

The conviction of Bradley Manning under the 1917 Espionage Act, and the US Justice Department's decision to file espionage charges against NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden under the same act, are yet further examples of the Obama administration's policy of using an iron fist against human rights and civil liberties activists.

Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

Originally Posted by Montecresto

Right wing partisans don't care what Bush did because of the R behind his name. When a president does the same thing with a D behind his name, they suddenly care very much. And the reverse is true of course as well. Which is what frustrates progress in America. But rah rah your team Mason.

Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

Originally Posted by Grant

I've talked to cigar aficionados and they say that because of over production the land in Cuba has been 'leached' because of overproduction with the best tobacco is from Nicaragua. There is also a lot of counterfeit Cuban cigars which are just terrible, but the boxes look quite authentic.

I indulged in a cuban cigar the last time I was in the Caribbean. It wasn't everything I was hoping it would be, but I think they could come back around if we removed the embargo.

We went from sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me to safe spaces.

Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

Originally Posted by Mason66

Who cares what Bush did?

This is about Castro. Do you have an opinion on what Obama did here?

I'm mentioning Bush's actions, because implicit in the OP was that Obama was somehow kowtowing to an untrustworthy foreign leader, probably because he's an evil socialist who hates America. I'm just pointing out that Bush did the same, as did Clinton before him, and Bush Sr before him, all the way back to, you know, George Washington, because that's what leaders DO.

I do have an opinion of what Obama did: Good on him, he didn't act like an international level dickbag, and he's working to mend a broken relationship from an era two decades past.