so far even that is of no help. it seem i get no sound at all besides the standard midicard sounds. im no newbie with ableton so something is going wrong here. i bought this for the specific reason of sending generative midi notes to vsts and soft synths.

man. im blow away. i havent stopped tinkering with it since i got it. i finally got it to work! and it works GREAT. im making music beyond my expectations with this already. now i just need to learn how to set up all the rules. i got the piece length down (lol). thanks for your time. im so happy this worked out

well. i run everything on a macbook pro. the first mistake for me was trying to work with midi pipe. its a great program but really i prefer the built IAC drivers. i also think it was a problem inside ableton. i recently switched over to 8, but as all new programs i had to get a new bug-fix update. in my original post was dealing with 8.01 but with 8.02 it just instantly worked. i admit im alittle lost when it comes to the rules. ive tinkered and already got great results but i cant wait to REALLY know whats going on and control it better. any hints in that direction?

Well, I'd just focus on doing something really simple, and have some fun just focusing on getting the feel for one rule at a time.

Create one voice, and listen to what happens when you change just the scale rule.Then play with the Next Note Rule, and listen to what happens as you adjust that.Then play with the rhythm rule to get a feel for how it works for Rhythmic voices.Then add another voice, and start experimenting with the Harmony rule.

Experimentation and "feel' is the key, that is one of the fun things about Noatikl, you really start to develop a feel for it. In that regard, Noatikl is a little bit like using a musical instrument; albeit one over which you give-up some control ... in exchange for a different type of control.