Have returned from mission with TT still in one piece (this is good for us).

Purchased from guy that haz been an audio fool for 30 years now and haz gone full circle of starting out with McIntosh toyz and changing everything out until now he iz back to having McIntosh toyz again....

I will let him discover things for himself for the most part - While he iz still uzing the Grado Black cart. I would not want to see him wipe out the Shure because that one haz the high end stylus on it. I don't know if he will be capable of fully understanding the process of how to properly mount and align a cartridge - we shall see.

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DIY audio can be expensive – but getting to see things go up in smoke - that's priceless!!!! ..... "whatever - call it brainfart of Mighty ZM"

...and to think that when these could be bought new you could pick up two or even three Garrard 301 TTs (used, and often with a decent arm on board) for less money than a new Thorens 160.................... In Ireland we say "God be with the days"!! Of course the enthusiast magazines pushed the likes of Thorens whilst Garrard tried to make ends meet by making alloy dog guards to keep your pooch in the back of a wagon!!! And the BBC moved to Technoics SP10 and various German heavyweights.

Thorens TTs [ and many others] and - especially the nasty arms they came with, were just bland sounding with not much good to recommend them. The old Lencos were better by far - even as originally sold. You can mod a thorens provided you start with replacing the arm, but they simply have a limit beyond which you cannot improve them. [The Lenco though can be made - with a lot of work and a go few $100 - into something which takes a lot of beating.]

There was much non-hi-fi stuff around back in the 70s - my pet hate were the early SS Mack amps with Maggis at the end! Good draught screens in a leaky house is the best I can say for them.

some how (she did it I am sure of it) my computer need a new drive
got a week ol back up so no big deal
in the mean time using laptop with win 8 what apiece of crrrrrrrrrr
but is much faster than XP gotaget the book for dummies and senior citizenz

or wit for 4 years old to came around and show me
so I am out of action for a while
will look asap