Watching Touching the Void, Joe Simpson notes that throughout the harrowing experience not once did the idea of calling out to a god enter into his mind. Looking back on it he views it as final confirmation that, despite an enforced childhood catholic upbringing which he later grew out of, he really doesn't believe there's a creator out there.

"Though the term is occasionally used to incorrectly imply that all soldiers in combat are "converted" while under fire it is most commonly only used to emphasise the belief of the sayer that many people tend to seek out a divine power when they are facing an extreme threat."

On 2/02/2011 Duncan wrote:>"Though the term is occasionally used to incorrectly imply that all soldiers>in combat are "converted" while under fire it is most commonly only used>to emphasise the belief of the sayer that many people tend to seek out>a divine power when they are facing an extreme threat."

Yeah like many of these things it's often more about the speaker than the person they're speaking about.

On 2/02/2011 voodoo wrote:>>Watching Touching the Void, Joe Simpson notes that throughout the harrowing>experience not once did the idea of calling out to a god enter into his>mind. Looking back on it he views it as final confirmation that, despite>an enforced childhood catholic upbringing which he later grew out of, he>really doesn't believe there's a creator out there.>>...unless of course Boney M is our master...

... or confirms the existence of Satan. I mean, to have Boney M looping through your brain in that (or any other) situation has to be the work of the devil.

Try being dislexyc and learning to tie knots....took me 3 weeks to get the hang of a granny knot....don't even ask how long a figure of 8 took.....should have seen the look on my climbing partners face last week when she was showin me how to belay from the top for the first time.... and i told her i was dyslexic and sometimes get things back to front...she looked genuinly scared....had to laugh to myself though.....i wouldnt climb with me....

'To the Editor Climb Magazine,
I have just wasted $8.95 on a magazine I thought was going to be a high class climbing publication similar to Mountain - wrong ! - just halfway through your editorial you make an infantile comment on a route name reviling the character of Christ which you seem to think hilarious.
Why is it that Macho, Bully Boy Australian males are incapable of understanding the love of a Father for his sons, whilst they quite readily accept the kissing, hugging , 'bonding' and the poking of fingers up each others anus by footy players? A psychcoanalyst would have a field day here.

If you consider yourself such a comedian Mr Taylor, I challenge you, nay, I dare you to write a similar 'witty' but insulting comment about Mohammed and see what response that brings you. (think long and hard before you rush into that one friend).

Should any atheist reading this, who believe themselves to be self generated and evolved from their own faeces, decide to respond - you are wasting your time - I will not be reading another copy of Climb magazine.

Name withheld
Brisbane Christian
Rockclimber for over 55 years and pig sick of the crudity in Australian climb naming."