question
of shootings in Poland came up, that Canaris
took the initiative by provoking a discussion on
this subject  I no longer remember how he
did this  and then pointing out the
terrible political repercussions that this would
have, especially abroad.

DR. NELTE:
The Defendant Keitel is anxious that I should
put the question to you, whether, when this
order for the bombing of Warsaw was made known
he did not stress the fact that this was to be
put into effect only if the fortress of Warsaw
did not surrender after the demand made by the
bearer of the flag of truce. and even then only
after an opportunity to evacuate the city had
been given to the civilian population and the
diplomats.

LAHOUSEN: I cannot recall
the precise words he used but according to my
knowledge of the situation at that time it is
quite possible, indeed probable, that the Chief
of the OKW, Keitel, did make this remark.

DR..
NELTE: Do you know that the Commander-in-Chief
of the army at that time, Von Brauchitsch, and
the Chief of the OKW, Keitel, before the Polish
War began, categorically objected to the use of
Gestapo and SD Kommandos, maintaining that these
were unbearable m the Wehrmacht, and in this
connection asked for Hitler's concurrence and
received it?

LAHOUSEN: No, I did not
know that, and could not have known it because
of my subordinate position at that time Please
do not overrate the importance of my position at
that time.

DR. NELTE: As we are also
concerned here with taking cognizance of a
document, which, I take it, was transmitted to
all department and sections of the OKW, I
thought you might remember They were the
so-called directives. were they not? And these
directives, mentioned in connection with the
campaign against Poland, in contrast to what
happened later . . .

THE PRESIDENT: I
think you were going a little bit too fast.

DR. NELTE: I said that in connection
with these military actions, the decrees and
directives were always transmitted to the
various offices of the OKW in the form of carbon
copies  I mean the offices which were in
any way concerned. I thought, therefore. . .

LAHOUSEN: Yes, but these were things
which did not concern my particular department I
stress the word "particular," I did
not even see them.

DR. NELTE: As later
on in the conversation you were drawn into the
discussion on these questions  it is true
you did stress that you did not know the actual
wording of the orders.

LAHOUSEN:
Orders which I did not see and read. Of course,
I knew a great many things, because I came to
hear of them.

DR. NELTE: For that
reason, I want to ask you whether you recall
that the Gestapo and SD had interfered behind
the advance