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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 5:23 pm

HamburgerBoy wrote:

Masked_Jackal wrote:

Indeed, I've heard Coroner (Tommy Vetterli doubling tracking himself is the best guitar duo in metal) as well as Realm, which is right on the money of what I'm looking for with songs like "Slay the Oppressor". I've been meaning to check out Anacrusis, though, so I will go with them.

Hades (US) might work for you, especially their second album. It's a bit more on the power/thrash side of things, but no more than a step or two away from Realm's Endless War.

EDIT: Ulysses Siren too, maybe. The vocalist isn't squeaky clean but he's still high-register and not growly. Not to mention that the riffage is excellent.

I've heard Ulysses Siren, but I'll check out Hades and Fastkill as I haven't heard anything from either. Power/thrash is accurate of what I'm looking for.

I've been trying to find more thrash like Toxik's 'World Circus' (I think I picked up that rec from a thread you made earlier last month, DGYDP). Laaz Rockit is another good example, now that I think about it.

Basically something very fast-paced, shrieky vocals, and catchy intense riffing. Time period isn't really an issue, I'd actually like to see some more current bands in this style since most seem to be doing the more Exodus/Kreator thing. I'd say the main criteria is fast and shrieky.

Dude, Accuser is all you need. "The Conviction" is all you need. It's pretty technical and it's by far the most fun and creative thrash metal album I've ever heard. It's so fucking awesome, haha. Go get it now!

Also, check out Intruder and Agony. All three of those bands are very much in the thrash/speed metal category.

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Just Checked out this instrumental Thrash (just the album Lethal Legacy) band called Mastery. Good shit, since they focus more on the sound rather than following the vocals.

The problem with instrumental thrash is that it fails to deliver aggression. Mastery has great riffage, both in terms of quality and quantity, but the riff-only sections sound amazing in normal thrash only because at some point the vocals come in to give variation and explode the aggression. When you listen to instrumental thrash, it just feels like it's building up all the way, ready to explode at some point, but never does it. It gets frustrating. By the way, I'm not talking about epics like those Metallica's, which are not very thrashy and work quite well.

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yeah, it's ironic, they are so pretentious, yet one can say that at least they don't pretend. They don't release some techno-rap-whatever album and say "on this record we tried to sound like in our old days"

Indeed, I've heard Coroner (Tommy Vetterli doubling tracking himself is the best guitar duo in metal) as well as Realm, which is right on the money of what I'm looking for with songs like "Slay the Oppressor". I've been meaning to check out Anacrusis, though, so I will go with them.

Hades (US) might work for you, especially their second album. It's a bit more on the power/thrash side of things, but no more than a step or two away from Realm's Endless War.

EDIT: Ulysses Siren too, maybe. The vocalist isn't squeaky clean but he's still high-register and not growly. Not to mention that the riffage is excellent.

I've heard Ulysses Siren, but I'll check out Hades and Fastkill as I haven't heard anything from either. Power/thrash is accurate of what I'm looking for.

Thanks for the suggestions, guys!

I think everyone who likes Ulysses Siren could get a kick out of Onslaught's "The Force".

has anyone ever heard of a band called Lich King? Are they any good? I heard there like classic Exodus ala Bonded By Blood, is that any true?

Quality-wise, it doesn't match Bonded By Blood, of course, but it does have the classic Bay Area sound.

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yeah, it's ironic, they are so pretentious, yet one can say that at least they don't pretend. They don't release some techno-rap-whatever album and say "on this record we tried to sound like in our old days"

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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:01 pm

FasterDisaster wrote:

Dude, Accuser is all you need. "The Conviction" is all you need. It's pretty technical and it's by far the most fun and creative thrash metal album I've ever heard. It's so fucking awesome, haha. Go get it now!

Also, check out Intruder and Agony. All three of those bands are very much in the thrash/speed metal category.

I'll check out Accuser and Agony, I've got both Intruder albums but I only remember 'Psycho Savant' (which has a 67% for some reason on this site).

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I think everyone who likes Ulysses Siren could get a kick out of Onslaught's "The Force".

I was actually listening to that this morning

I'm liking what I've heard from Hades so far (Alan Tecchio ).

Fastkill isn't exactly what I'm looking for but it too is quite awesome; very frantic. Kind of reminds me of early Sadus.

Dammit, not knowing when Heathen's new album is going to be released, much less if it's going to be released at all, is really starting to get to me. It's supposedly supposed to be released spring/summer of this year, but summer is almost around the corner, and I think they'd release some new information about it by now.

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That album is kinda' really frickin' awesome. "Interstellar Experience" is a decent album but it feels too scattered and unfocused - not to mention the really crappy production. "The Club" is passable. It has some really thrashy moments but it also has some really scattered moments as well.

I've only heard Onslaught's In Search Of Sanity album. I quite like it a lot since it had the singer from Grim Reaper on it. Adds a nice touch to the sound.

Seen my review? "The Force" is like a totally different world man.

As for Hades (US) I'd have to say I liked their debut the most. It definitely seemed more USPM driven, but damn was it still heavy and awesome. Reminds me a bit of Tyrant's Reign, awesome stuff too. Definitely don't overlook that one Masked Jackal and others.

Dammit, not knowing when Heathen's new album is going to be released, much less if it's going to be released at all, is really starting to get to me. It's supposedly supposed to be released spring/summer of this year, but summer is almost around the corner, and I think they'd release some new information about it by now.

They were just adding some finishing touches on some pre-production last week.

Also, they SIGNED a deal a long time ago. The album has to be released. It was signed in ink, with Mascot records.

My very reliable sources have been feeding me some good info lately, so fear not.

yeah, it's ironic, they are so pretentious, yet one can say that at least they don't pretend. They don't release some techno-rap-whatever album and say "on this record we tried to sound like in our old days"

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Oracle (US) (the one with the As Darkness Reigns album) should work. If it weren't for the riffs it'd be hard to call thrash metal at all (it's more US power/traditional/thrash) and as a result is very melodic. I'm no expert on classical music or what 'neo-classical' is strictly defined as, but every solo sounds classical and if BaronVonK's review is accurate a lot of them are taken from classical pieces anyways.

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Any thrash bands with any sort of virtuosic or neoclassical influence?

If not, how about some very, very melodic stuff?

Cacophony

Thats all you really need. Marty Friedman and Jason Becker are both on guitars so you know this band is nothing but mind blowing shred

Cacophony is thrash???

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yeah, it's ironic, they are so pretentious, yet one can say that at least they don't pretend. They don't release some techno-rap-whatever album and say "on this record we tried to sound like in our old days"

I've never found Whiplash particularly appealing with the horrible vocals and riffs that aren't too interesting but you might find something you like seen as so many people like 'em.

@TheFourHorsemen666: Don't listen to him! ...

Whiplash kicks ass in my opinion and I love the vocals.

Onslaught's 'The Force' is indeed epic.

I've been listening to Atrophy a bit lately. They're not bad, but not that inspired. Sounds a bit like Violence's 'Eternal Nightmare' with less of a flare. I've only heard 'Socialized Hate' though. I'm pretty sure Defiance is the same case here from what I remember. Not bad, but not exactly too exciting. Hirax is okay.

Don't know much about those other bands. But, if you haven't, check out Rigor Mortis' s/t and Torture 'Storm Alert'. I think a thrash fan of any kind should be able to dig these.

On the subject of Exmortus, wasn't their debut album supposed to come out last month? Any news on that?

Lick King are good but I'd rather listen to other bands than them, not sure why though. Rigor Mortis and Torture kick ass. Can't wait for the new Heathen either, that 2005 demo is better than some of their classic songs!

But, as I mentioned before, thrash is not really about the lyrics. Sure, some bands make them sound "intelligent" but most of the time they're not. The riffs are the basis of an awesome thrash record and if that record has good lyrics too then great, but if it doesn't, who cares?

But, as I mentioned before, thrash is not really about the lyrics. Sure, some bands make them sound "intelligent" but most of the time they're not. The riffs are the basis of an awesome thrash record and if that record has good lyrics too then great, but if it doesn't, who cares?

Very true! Possessed have absolutely shit lyrics yet they're one of favorite bands. But in the thrash revivalist scene, it seems to be a requirement for bands to sing about killing posers (well maybe just the ones from SoCal.) So let me end by saying I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SONGS ABOUT KILLING POSERS. I just find it peculiar for Fueled by Fire to not sing about something else for a whole fucking album!

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But, as I mentioned before, thrash is not really about the lyrics. Sure, some bands make them sound "intelligent" but most of the time they're not. The riffs are the basis of an awesome thrash record and if that record has good lyrics too then great, but if it doesn't, who cares?

Yup. Even if the vocalists are utterly sloppy and hard to understand, also ... who cares?

I'm looking for some thrash that sounds like Kreator's "Pleasure to Kill" album. There's some pretty cool death/thrash out there but nothing I've listened to besides Sodom's "Obsessed by Cruelty" bears much similarities to PTK. The thing I really loved about PTK was that its proto-death riffs featured a strong punk influence, unlike most early death/thrash that mostly comprised of downtuned thrash riffs. The drumming on PTK was also sloppy and wildly out of control, which made it so much fun to listen to. PTK is quite possibly my favorite album, so it would be awesome to hear more stuff like it. Any suggestions?

I'm looking for some thrash that sounds like Kreator's "Pleasure to Kill" album. There's some pretty cool death/thrash out there but nothing I've listened to besides Sodom's "Obsessed by Cruelty" bears much similarities to PTK. The thing I really loved about PTK was that its proto-death riffs featured a strong punk influence, unlike most early death/thrash that mostly comprised of downtuned thrash riffs. The drumming on PTK was also sloppy and wildly out of control, which made it so much fun to listen to. PTK is quite possibly my favorite album, so it would be awesome to hear more stuff like it. Any suggestions?

Sepultura's first two seem to be the closest to PtK. Death/thrash, quite sloppy (at least, they're not exactly the most technical players ..), and some great riffage. Raw-produced, of course.

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So, Manes > Samael?

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yeah, it's ironic, they are so pretentious, yet one can say that at least they don't pretend. They don't release some techno-rap-whatever album and say "on this record we tried to sound like in our old days"

I'm looking for some thrash that sounds like Kreator's "Pleasure to Kill" album. There's some pretty cool death/thrash out there but nothing I've listened to besides Sodom's "Obsessed by Cruelty" bears much similarities to PTK. The thing I really loved about PTK was that its proto-death riffs featured a strong punk influence, unlike most early death/thrash that mostly comprised of downtuned thrash riffs. The drumming on PTK was also sloppy and wildly out of control, which made it so much fun to listen to. PTK is quite possibly my favorite album, so it would be awesome to hear more stuff like it. Any suggestions?

Sepultura's first two seem to be the closest to PtK. Death/thrash, quite sloppy (at least, they're not exactly the most technical players ..), and some great riffage. Raw-produced, of course.

Agreed. Also you might like Overkill's sideproject Speed/Kill\Hate. The production is neater, but it's pretty all over the place. Vocals sound a little metalcore, but other than that they might be up your alley.

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