While I'm not ready to write him off 100% you have to wonder why? Look at the rotations at PF he's played with. Jason Thompson and chuck Hayes on Sacramento and Greg smith and Montiejunas on Houston. He couldn't even crack the rotation on either team playing with sub par PFs.

Very well put. And now Houston is willing to trade him primarily as a salary dump. Traded twice before his second year...both times by teams that were stocking young talent. You'd think if he showed signs of being something special, that wouldn't be the case.

He didn't play much in Houston because he didn't fit into their offence. They liked to play 4 shooters with Asik, and that worked when they had Morris and Paterson since they can both shoot, but Robinson can't so he got buried on the bench.

First I think Robinson has a tonnnnnnnn of solid NBA potential, kids going to work his ass off to get bigger, already has the moves, just needs the place to showcase them. If Houston traded away Asik then Daryl Morey should be shot. To get Howard they'd be destroying the nucleus of an already good team that has potential to get soooo much better. I'd give them what they want for Robinson...I really would.

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While I'm not ready to write him off 100% you have to wonder why? Look at the rotations at PF he's played with. Jason Thompson and chuck Hayes on Sacramento and Greg smith and Montiejunas on Houston. He couldn't even crack the rotation on either team playing with sub par PFs.

Sacramento is a mess of an organization. Smart didn't really play Isaiah Thomas until late in the season and Thornton-who's arguably their best shooter-was on the bench most the season.

In Houston, it's true that McHale knows what big men talent is (he brought KLove to Wolves) but the trade happened halfway into the season. They were eyeing playoffs so the focus was to win games as opposed to player development. TRob has a lot potential but he's not ready just yet. Like most big men, it takes a couple years of development before they can contribute. Considering Asik is also offensively limited, it wouldn't make sense to pair TRob with him either.

Prying him away from Houston for anything outside of lottery value (cash, picks, trade, etc) would be a steal. If I was the nets and I have enough cash, i'd try to go for him. They're currently running Reggie Evans as the starting 4. Lopez isn't the best rebounder so having an athletic 4 like TRob can help (I know reggie is a beast on the boards, but he's not as athletic and he's undersized). TRob can also learn a lot from Lopez who's arguably one of the most offensively skilled big men in the league

The problem with Robinson is he's PF size, but plays like a typical C. Which would be fine, but he doesn't have a touch around the rim. In college he basically muscled and bullied guys, thats not an option at his size in the NBA. He's not much of a floor runner, not much of a jump shooter, not much of a passer or ball handler.

He's a good rebounder and could become an excellent defender (although not a rim protector). If he can add a consistent 15fter and just a little something on the block, he's probably got an Antonio Davis ceiling. But he's also gonna have to learn how to get down and dirty - and he seems like too nice of a guy for that.

I can't think of another way where Houston sheds salary, gives up Robinson and the Raptors get him. I agree with you, which means a Robinson to Toronto deal is extremely unlikely.

I don't see it happening. I think the only contract they would "want" is Lowry's so they can waive him and only pay him his small guaranteed amount. If they sent slightly more money to us then waived him, that could save them 4-5 million...But since they traded us Lowry, that's not on the table until free agency gets underway, which could be too long a wait, not to mention how incredibly uncertain it makes the PG position in Toronto.

Id rather we get Ed back than T Rob I know hes a rookie but he shows little upside or growth looks like a role player to me, but ya never know....both teams he has been on during his rookie campaign is just trying to get rid of him. But if we can turn Bargnani into him then its a positive in my book...

TRob needs an environment to grow ... and now that he will be playing with a chip on those monster shoulders, the NBA will soon need to beware. Took him a while to become a college standout, and i'm sure the NBA learning curve is much higher - but if he can adapt his many moves and counters to NBA-sized defenders, he would be an amazing long term Jonas sidekick.

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