The pages oni gave the info on the monks, the amulets n what is used to make them, age etc...no info on the uses thou...... or did i not go through thoroughyl enuff?

lizard

09-03-2005, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by Arcfire@Mar 9 2005, 09:50 AM
Is there anywhere or any books that the experts here can recommend to read on uses of various amulets n such?

http://lekwatruak.tripod.com/kplpaant.html

try this.. got quite alot of info :lovestruck: at the bottom of the base clik home den can access more info liao

Kushinagar

09-03-2005, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by koma@Mar 9 2005, 02:49 AM
got 1 same question if got a long pu that amulet on my current bike now, is it advisable to

1)keep it there
2)take it out n transfer to my new bike
3)bring to temple n give back to the monks

like to hear some advise frm u guys, thanks ;)
Assuming it is in waterproof casing, the amulet in good condition and been protecting u all these while while u&#39;re riding, I see no harm in transfering to yr new bike. On a second opinion, why not wear it to protect U????

:cheeky:

Just curious, is it LP Thuat or LP That????

Kushinagar

09-03-2005, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by Arcfire@Mar 9 2005, 03:56 PM
The pages oni gave the info on the monks, the amulets n what is used to make them, age etc...no info on the uses thou...... or did i not go through thoroughyl enuff?
What uses are u refering to??? All amulet are made generally for protection purpose while some might have more properties in it. Some of the more common term in Thai amulet are;-

Of course there are more to these......maybe i dun noe oni......
:confused:

Kushinagar

09-03-2005, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by +simon+@Mar 8 2005, 10:41 PM
I saw this before in one of my friends collection
but material different ..

nice piece ..
If you&#39;ve seen this piece correctly, then it&#39;s only one material....black with tiger strips like......most ppl wan to keep the mint condition, i.e the top white powder can still be seen (like in the pic i post).

However, there are also ppl who would intentionally apply a layer of oil over it to bring out the actual material....it look nice with the tiger strip like all over the amulet.... :smile:

lizard

11-03-2005, 11:46 PM

Thai amulets
Created by "Lek Watruak"

FAQs on Thai Amulets
What is the name of the Buddha we pay respect to?

Phra Sri Sakkaya Muni, Kotama, Buddha. Sakkaya is the Lord&#39;s family name. He is the Buddha of our epoch.

Whose image on the amulet is?
Most of them are Lord Buddha, but many are Guru monks.

What do we have to do before we wear the amulets?

Before wearing amulets, please do this way :
- Make your mind calm, think of all your goodness you have done, and focus all
your faith to the Buddha
- Put your amulets onto your hands, join your hands together
- Breathe in deeply and slowly

What do we have to do if we want to take the chain of amulets out off our neck?

Just take it out off your neck and put all amulets in your hands. Join your hands together, say thanks to the Lord and Luang Phor(s) that protect us and let us come back home safely. Then bring them onto a high place.

Any restriction when wearing Thai Buddhistic amulets?

Yes, there are some restrictions:
-Don&#39;t bring amulets with you when you go to the low and improper place such as a brothel.
-Don&#39;t wear amulets when doing sexual activities.
-Don&#39;t go underneath the improper things such as the lady&#39;s skirt or someone&#39;s shoes, except you are on the inevitably compulsory environment such as going under a bridge or working in a skyscraper, etc.

Where is the place to park my amulets?

Put on a shelf, altar or any high place. Do not put them on the top of your bed, except you are single or sleep alone. If you want to keep them in your bed room, please put them in a higher drawer.

lizard

11-03-2005, 11:50 PM

Is it true that the Buddha amulet can protect firearms?

Yes it is. But it also depends on the quality of your mind. The late Luang Phor Ngern of Wat Don Yai Hom, Nakorn Pathom Province, one of the greatest guru monks, once said that: the number-one mind with full-hearted trust in Lord Buddha&#39;s miracles, the gun will not bang or misfire; the number-two mind, the gun bang but the bullet misses; the number-three mind, the gun bang and the bullet hit the target but never penetrate into the body. So, when you hang Buddha amulets on your neck, you must have faith and trust on the Buddha&#33;&#33;

How can I know my amulets are authentic or fake?

You must often view the authentic pieces and remember their imprints, mass, and surface. We judge them by their physical appearances, that&#39;s the scientiffic way.

Can I check them with my intuition?

Checking with intuition can do only by a monk or any lay person who has meditative power. But almost all ordinary people don&#39;t know who really have this power. So, checking the authenticity or fake of an amulet with an intuition is not accepted in amulet-commerce arena.

Can an amulet lose its power?

Yes, if the amulet finishes blessing by SaiyaVeja(black magic), it will sooner or later lose its power. But if the amulet finishes by Buddhistic meditative power, it will be there forever. However, one will not be protected even he is hanging amulets but doing evils or improper action. That means the Lord Buddha will not be with him.

Does it need to re-blessed an Buddha amulet after hanging for long years?

No, no need to do that. But if you have an Buddha amulet on your neck, it&#39;s a must to abstain from doing evils. And if you wholeheartedly pay respect to the Buddha as if he is still alive, he will exactly protect you and bless you a great success.

Someone says that the Buddha is still alive, is that true?

Yes it is, one who says that is presumed that he has a knowledge of the 4th-dimension world which overlaps the world we are now living. I strongly confirm here our Lord Buddha is still alive even he passed away more than 2543 years ago; if not, he cannot protect us. The Lord is at the great grand place call Nipphan Celestial. But the enlightened one can be omnipresent at any place on this universe with unlimited bodies. So he can help every body at the same time. If you really have meditative power, you can meditatively reach there and pay respect to him directly. You will never be convinced on this until you reach there by yourself.

Is an expensive amulet better than a cheap one?

No, it is not. The Buddha power in an amulet does not depend on the price but on:

1. Who creates it? If the amulet is created by the great guru monk who has Samatha and Wipassana Yana ( the great knowledge on advanced meditation), he could invite Lord Buddha of every epoch and all Arahants to charged the great power onto the amulet. Do you know, a lot of people were saved from fatal accidents just their necks hanged 10 Baht-value (about 25 US Cents) amulets &#33;&#33; So, the rich and the poor are equal to receive protection from our Lord Buddha.

2. How clean and how good-intended on that creation. In the old times, almost all guru monks had very clean and good-intended mind because they aimed at the future-to-be Buddha, so they devoted their lives to help build a lot of facilities in many temples. That means tons of money are needed to buy raw materials for construction, so amulets were created to present to donors as a gift in exchange. The good examples on this are Luang Phor Doem of Wat Nong Pho and Luang Phor Parn of Wat BangNomKho, both Luang Phors helped build more than 30 temples&#33;&#33; At present times, we still have very good guru monks but not as many as in the past. So, if you would like to collect the newly-made amulets, you should have to ask yourself with some of these questions: who create them and do they have advanced meditation knowledge, what for, and who are invited to perform the blessing ritual, etc.

lizard

11-03-2005, 11:57 PM

*****ATTENTION*****

all the above info given from a well know writer in thai amulets .:cheeky:

koma

14-03-2005, 12:47 AM

Originally posted by Kushinagar@Mar 9 2005, 06:22 PM
Assuming it is in waterproof casing, the amulet in good condition and been protecting u all these while while u&#39;re riding, I see no harm in transfering to yr new bike. On a second opinion, why not wear it to protect U????

:cheeky:

Just curious, is it LP Thuat or LP That????
ok thanks for the advice, should be LP That

I found the new address of the "temple" we used to go. It&#39;s now moved to Lorong 11 Geylang. Wanna go there together someday?
Anybody got the address of this "temple"? Used to be at the last house at Lorong 9 Geylang but have now shifted to Lorong 11.

It is ok to wear three, just remember all of them will protect if u got faith on them.:smile:

ellamcoy

08-05-2006, 12:13 PM

Hi to all&#33;

I m a newbie in this, would like to know more abt this hobby. With understanding of the basic Karma and chain reaction, hope to know more people who have experiences the cause and effect of the amulet :thumb:

Rdgs

happyjunz

20-05-2006, 07:35 PM

just came back from Bangkok and visited Wat Bang Phra.

i got myself a Luang Phor Pern&#39;s amulet and his Tiger&#39;s amulet, and got a monk to tattoo on my back as well.

Gene^

23-05-2006, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by shinkai@May 20 2006, 07:47 PM
just came back from Bangkok and visited Wat Bang Phra.

i got myself a Luang Phor Pern&#39;s amulet and his Tiger&#39;s amulet, and got a monk to tattoo on my back as well.

u mean u got a monk tattoo for u at wat bang phra ?

1) u choose the design or they choose for u
2) did the monk tell u what u can do and cant do after the tattoo ?
3) how much did it cost u ?

asking all this because i was thinking of going there and get one done

Kushinagar

23-05-2006, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by Gene^@May 23 2006, 09:44 PM

u mean u got a monk tattoo for u at wat bang phra ?

1) u choose the design or they choose for u
2) did the monk tell u what u can do and cant do after the tattoo ?
3) how much did it cost u ?

asking all this because i was thinking of going there and get one done
This is a translation from thai on Sak Yan by my friend, slowly digest.

Tattooing (Sak Yan)
&#39;Proper&#39; tattooing is not given to men until they are adult: when they have reached the age of about 17. Nearly every man in rural areas of Thailand will be subjected to tattooing of one kind or another. Monks as well as laymen can be a tattooer; &#39;Ah Jahn Sak&#39;, but there is a difference in the scope of their work.

When a member of the Sangha exercises magical skills by tattooing young men, he is limited in the application of this skill by the fact that he is a monk. As a member of the Sangha his essential role is seen to earn good karma for himself, for the persons who sponser him and for his ancestors. By doing so, he is believed to generate beneficial power. When tattooing, he is therefore customarily limited to the bestowal of beneficial, protective power upon the man who receives his indelible marks. As a result of his monkly role, he can therefore tattoo only on the higher, most respected parts of the body: the chest, the upper arms but especially the head of a man.

The marks he gives are often directly related to his monkly occupation and consist of mystical diagrams and rows of syllables in the sacred Khom alphabet. They are applied by the monk whilst he murmurs a few sacralising formulae. A tattooing sometimes performed by a monk is the marking of the tongue. The monk does not pierce the skin of the tongue, however; a perfunctory touch with the tattooing needle suffices. It is believed that the beneficial power from a tongue-tattoo pervades the whole body via the saliva.

The tattoos made upon the body by a monk protect the man from mishap, and often they have the power to make a man popular and favoured with his fellow human beings. A lay ritual specialist, not limited by his role to protective, beneficial powers, can offer his clients a much wider choice of body decorations. He can execute the designs that monks use, and thus usually has in his repertoire a variety of Yan and many groups of syllables in the sacred alphabet, but in addition he can apply many theriomorphic and anthropomorphic designs.

A young man can be motivated to receive a tattoo for a variety of reasons. To many it is a sign that they are grown up and that they have bravely faced the painful process. The designs themselves are often aesthetically pleasing, and therefore some men may be prompted by vanity. Others may be especially attracted by the thought that the tattoos will increase their power and charm.

When a young man has decided upon a certain Ah Jahn Sak, he must approach this ritual specialist with proper deference in order to make an appointment for the first session of tattooing. Often the Ah Jahn Sak will decide that a Tuesday or a Saturday is the most appropriate because reputedly on such days of the week the &#39;spirits are strong&#39;. On the appointed day, the young man must come to the house of the tattooer, carrying a candle, some flowers and the fee. Payment for these types of magical services should traditionally be connected with the number six. Older people remember the days when they used to pay six saleung (cents), which is equivalent to one and half baht, but nowadays the fee is often sixty baht or a multiple of that amount. The young boy should kneel down with his face towards the east, light the candle and incense and offer then together with the flowers to the &#39;teachers&#39;, those who in the dim past handed down the knowledge of tattooing. This ceremony is called Wai Kroo, and is also performed by the Ah Jahn Sak.

After the Wai Kroo, when respect has been paid to the original possessors of the knowledge used, the Ah Jahn Sak begins to make the tattoo. He employs a wooden shaft with a sharp metal tip which can contain a small quantity of ink. The tattooer guides the instrument over the thumb and index finger of the left hand on to the skin of the young man, making rhythmical, powerful strokes in order to pierce the skin, pausing often to refill with ink. The person who undergoes this treatment should not cry out in pain, lest he be the laughing-stock of all who have suffered stoically. One design, covering maybe twelve square inches of skin, is usually sufficient for the first session; if the man still wishes to receive other designs he should wait for a few days until the swelling of the recently tattooed skin subsides a little.

While he is being tattooed, a man is sometimes advised to repeat a short spell such as: "A-Hi AHi Sam-Mah", which can be translated as: "Oh come, come properly". It is probable that such formulae are meant to make the recipient open to receive magical qualities together with the designs. The Ah Jahn Sak himself murmurs formulae continously. After finishing a design, the tattooer says a final spell while rubbing his fingers in the mixture of blood and ink that wells up from the recently tattooed skin, and terminates the session by blowing with all his might upon the design.

After a man has received as many tattoos as he wishes, a process which may last several weeks because of the intermittent periods without tattooing, he must undergo an effecting ritual which may be repeated yearly. This ceremony is generally known as &#39;Yok Kroo&#39;, literally: &#39;to raise the teacher&#39;. This ritual can take place in a monastery, near a Buddha image, sometimes in the most sacred place: on the monks&#39; platform in the Bot (main shrine). The scene of the ceremony has been made attractive to the non-human powers by offering of foods that these powers reputedly like: a pig&#39;s head, eggs, sweetmeats, candles, incense and flowers. When the powers have been invoked, the Ah Jahn Sak will cause them to enter the body of the recently tattooed young person by perfunctorily piercing the skin on top of the skill several times with his tattooing needle.

From this moment onwards, the tattoos are potentially powerful: their strength resides in the body. The tattooed person should observe some taboos to preserve these powers intact. In no circumstances should a man who has been tattooed be in an inferior position to a woman during copulation lest he lose all magical qualities of his tattoo. Another prescription often given to a recently tattooed man is that he should be aware and attentive when relieving the body so as not to let any of his magical power escape. In both these rules of behaviour a common theme can be discerned: a man is considered vulnerable during the moments that material, be is semen, faeces or urine leaves the body.

In addition, many tattooers will prescribe that a man refrain from eating certain food, such as mafeung (starfruit)and seedah (guava) fruits.

Apart from advising his clients to refrain from acts which will cause the recently acquired powers to dwindle, the Ah Jahn Sak reveals to the men how they can induce the latent powers to rise. The recently tattooed men receive spells, KahThah (chants), which arouse the dormant forces.

In order to show that the body has been properly tattooed, the Ah Jahn Sak may, after the Yok Kroo ceremony, test the invulnerability of the men. He will order one or more of the recently tattooed men to lie down, facing the floor. The Ah Jahn Sak will brandish a bamboo knife and show the bystanders how sharp the point is. After saying a formula over a tattooed area of skin on the back of the person lying on the floor, he will suddenly stab the knife forcefully in the area. Invariably the point of the knife can be shown to have broken off and the skin remains unpierced. After having thus proved that the powers work, the tattooer urges his clients to use their powers only when in dire need. The forces are not to be abused.

Different designs are placed on the body according to rules which reveal specific norms. The designs show a decreasing eminence when regarded from high to low on the body. On top of the skull, purely geometric designs, or the outline of the Buddha image surrounded by mystical diagrams, should be placed. These designs prevent the head from being harmed through an attack, but above all, they cause the wearer to be popular and favoured by other people. The face is usually kept clear of elaborate tattoos, for they would interfere with the features and facial expressions of a man. A single dot can be tattooed on the cheek by way of protecting th whole face. In this context it is relevant that a mole on the face is considered a sign of beauty in Thailand.

The chest and upper arms can be used for strings of sacred syallabus, sometimes decorated with U-Nah-Lorm. U-Nah-Lorm is a figure of conic shape often placed above a mark to indicate the importance of the mark. In Buddhist texts the U-Nah is one of the 32 signs of a great man that could be recognised on the Buddha: a small tuft of hair between the eyebrows. The conical symbol has been traced to a representation of the Vedic magic syllable Om. The chest and upper arms can also be decorated with some esteemed anthropomorphic or theriomorphic designs. This is the region of the body where the heroes of the Ramayana are depicted: Rama, his twin sons Kusa and Lava (known to the Thai as Bud and Lob), Angada and especially Hanuman, each holding one or more appropriate weapons. On these areas of the body an Ah Jahn Sak may tattoo a strong and valiant animal: the garuda, the hamsa, the lion, the tiger or the panther. When a human or animal motif is tattooed on the body, the Ah Jahn Sak usually surrounds the picture by secondary motifs, a small mystical diagrams, and a single Khom letters, often crowned with U-Nah-Lorm.

The lower part of the arms, from elbow to wrist, can be used for miscellaneous designs. On the lower arm can be placed a picture of the garuda fighting a snake coiled around the world. This theme is well known in Ancient India. It probably arrived in Thailand with the Ramayana in which the battle between the birds and the serpents also features. Other designs which are suited for the lower arms are a lizard with two tails, or a dove holding the top of an U-Nah-Lorm in its beak. The knuckles of the hands may each receive a single syllable.

High on the thigh near the hip joint, a man may receive a picture of the LingLom, the slow loris, also known as the wind monkey. It is a small, tailless nocturnal animal, which, according to a popular belief, exercises some influence over the wind. On the right thigh the monkey is depicted within a circle, on all fours, and when a man wishes to obtain a decoration on his left thigh as well, the LingLom stands free, on its hind legs, not surrounded by a circular border. The monkey on the right thigh is more often tattooed.

(The reason for the circular border, which is otherwise not common, is conceivably that LingLom in fast speech sounds somewhat like LingKlom, that is &#39;round monkey&#39; or, by extension, &#39;monkey in a circle&#39;. The tattooing artists found it difficult to represent wind, and so settled on the circle instead.)

Above the back of the monkey as well as below the feet of the animal, usually a series of letters is tattooed. The lines represents water, and the other line of symbols is fire. If it is realised that the word LingLom means literally &#39;wind monkey&#39;, it is apparent that the circle around the monkey, the water and the fire, represents the fourth element of the universe: earth.

Lower still on the body, between the hips and the knees, miscellaneous tattooing of a less esteemed, sometimes dangerous kind can take place. This is a region of the body where a picture of a naked woman with an exaggerated vulva can be worn. This type of tattooing is considered very powerful and dangerous. It is usually reserved for those who have strong reason to wish to wield aggressive magical power. A professional tattooer can receive then from his own teacher, ot he can tattoo it on his own thigh. Another aggressive type of tattooing sometimes found on the upper leg is the phallus, depicted with some semen emitted. On the lower part of the legs, very little tattooing is found. A single dot, or a few unadorned syllabus, sometimes suffice to protect a man against snake bites, but usually the tattooing needle does not come so low on the body.

The distribution of tattoos on a man&#39;s body reveals some aspects of the evaluation of the different parts of the body. From waist upwards, the more important parts of the body are crowned by the head. Lower down, man&#39;s lesser parts begins, ending in the least respected members: the feet. The lower arms and hands constitute a rather ambigious area of the body; after all, a farmer has to do many types of activities with his hands, from dirty work to handling sacred books.

It is generally believed that dangerous tattoos influence the behaviour of a man, and that a heavily tattooed person will automatically acquire an aggressive and restless character. The Ah Jahn Sak is well aware of the possible danger of the powers he bestows and he takes care that he does not give designs which are too strong in their effects. A picture of an ancient sage or that of a devil would cause the received to go berserk. For this reason the tattooer can deliberately omit a detail of a design, in order to weaken its effect. Thus he may leave out the last syllable of a spell or, when tattooing a tiger, depict the animal without its tail.

While the art of tattooing seems clearly on the wane, especially in municipal areas, some men have found a compromise in being tattooed with Num Mun Nah, the oil from sesame seed, which leaves no visible trace. In the remote rural regions many men still consider it a priviledge to be able to obtain magical powers from an Ah Jahn Sak.

The main factor which sustains belief in the tattoos is the occasional occurences of a case which &#39;proves&#39; their powers. If a man is attacked and escapes unscathed, or is involved in an accident and receives relatively little injury, his good fortune is often ascribed to magical power. If he wears a strong amulet, that may be the cause; if he considers that his tattoos have saved him, he will be happy to proclaim their value. Events which do not corroborate the current beliefs in the protective quality of the magical designs and amulets are explained by surmising that there was some overruling factor: a man may have lost the protective powers by not behaving in the manner his Ah Jahn Sak prescribed, he may not have &#39;awakened&#39; the dormant forces with the proper KahThah, or, if no direct explanation comes forth, the man may have possessed an extraordinary great amount of bad karma.

happyjunz

24-05-2006, 02:03 AM

Originally posted by Gene^@May 23 2006, 09:44 PM

u mean u got a monk tattoo for u at wat bang phra ?

1) u choose the design or they choose for u
2) did the monk tell u what u can do and cant do after the tattoo ?
3) how much did it cost u ?

asking all this because i was thinking of going there and get one done
yes i went to the temple, happened to see a monk tattooing on people&#39;s body and so i joined in.

you can choose the designs as there is a painting hanging on the wall which shows different designs.

dont think it&#39;s the normal tattoo you see outside because the inks are different and the instruments they used are different too.

the monk didnt tell me what i could or couldnt do after the session.

basically you just have to present flowers, a pack of ciggy and some angpao money which the amount is up to you. your heart matters.

lizard

25-05-2006, 02:24 AM

Originally posted by shinkai@May 24 2006, 02:15 AM
yes i went to the temple, happened to see a monk tattooing on people&#39;s body and so i joined in.

you can choose the designs as there is a painting hanging on the wall which shows different designs.

dont think it&#39;s the normal tattoo you see outside because the inks are different and the instruments they used are different too.

the monk didnt tell me what i could or couldnt do after the session.

basically you just have to present flowers, a pack of ciggy and some angpao money which the amount is up to you. your heart matters.

haha u sound like u anyhow HAMTAM, just follow the que :smile: btw how life after the tattoo ?

but i heard will have certain restrictions on what to do and what not to do . this is what i heard from old uncles .

happyjunz

26-05-2006, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by lizard@May 25 2006, 02:36 AM

haha u sound like u anyhow HAMTAM, just follow the que :smile: btw how life after the tattoo ?

but i heard will have certain restrictions on what to do and what not to do . this is what i heard from old uncles .
yah i anyhow hamtam one hahaha but felt good after that.

the legend said that if you tattoo the designs, it will bring you "power".

example if you tattoo their lizard, it brings you more charm so you will attract more girls&#33; tiger gives you more courage and leadership skills etc. and many others characters give different powers.

i think the restrictions are as usual, no starfruits and behave yourself.

cradle

26-05-2006, 02:33 PM

i looking for Lp pae, pae sum and pae cen long. anyone have??

picanto

26-05-2006, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by shinkai@May 26 2006, 10:40 AM
yah i anyhow hamtam one hahaha but felt good after that.

the legend said that if you tattoo the designs, it will bring you "power".

example if you tattoo their lizard, it brings you more charm so you will attract more girls&#33; tiger gives you more courage and leadership skills etc. and many others characters give different powers.

i think the restrictions are as usual, no starfruits and behave yourself.
Hi shinkai

How it before when u haven&#39;t tattoo and after? Why no star fruit? And behave like what? Just want to find out more, please help. Thanks u:smile:

happyjunz

27-05-2006, 02:56 AM

Originally posted by picanto@May 26 2006, 09:05 PM
Hi shinkai

How it before when u haven&#39;t tattoo and after? Why no star fruit? And behave like what? Just want to find out more, please help. Thanks u:smile:
i dont know the differences yet but i just felt great like having the amulet inside me and God is protecting and watching over me. they said that after you got yourself tattooed at Luang Phor Pern&#39;s Wat Bang Phra, you are invincible to weapons etc but how true is that? i have no idea.

i have no idea why can&#39;t eat star fruits as well but my mom told me not to eat star fruits if i am carrying the amulets etc.

behave meaning dont anyhow fool around, like go around asking for fights etc. cuz some ppl they tattoo just to have more "power" like strength, courage and etc, and always find troubles.

happyjunz

27-05-2006, 02:58 AM

oh yah, after the monk finishes tattooing on your body, he will chants spell and blow on the tattoo&#39;ed part. this is in order to "activate" the tattoo.

picanto

27-05-2006, 11:59 AM

Shinkai, do u need to pray or chant?

happyjunz

27-05-2006, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by picanto@May 27 2006, 12:11 PM
Shinkai, do u need to pray or chant?
nope, dont have to. after the monk has finished tattooin on you, you just have to thank him.

picanto

27-05-2006, 07:21 PM

shinkai, is there restricted place that u can not go after u tattoo?

happyjunz

28-05-2006, 02:16 AM

Originally posted by picanto@May 27 2006, 07:33 PM
shinkai, is there restricted place that u can not go after u tattoo?
dont think so unless if you restrict yourself. dude dont think so much =) no worries man..

picanto

28-05-2006, 08:37 AM

Do u need to do anything to enhance more power?

Beachy

29-05-2006, 01:17 PM

Hi All,

I have a LP Pae Somdej amulet that is made of silver. Has anyone out there seen it before? Can you please tell me if it&#39;s genuine? Or at least if it&#39;s in the LP Pae catalogue? Which year is it made in?

Please reply to my email add: beachy_dude@hotmail.com or search me on the MSN network, coz I may overloook your reply on this forum.

Tango Yankee.

Picture of the amulet attached this email.

Beachy

30-05-2006, 06:43 PM

Hi All,

Ok I managed to find my amulet in the LP Pae catalogue. Now all I need is sometime to TRANSLATE the Thai script under the picture.

Anyone read Thai?

PLEASE HELP&#33;&#33; What do the words say under the picture?

Kushinagar

31-05-2006, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by Beachy@May 30 2006, 06:55 PM
Hi All,

Ok I managed to find my amulet in the LP Pae catalogue. Now all I need is sometime to TRANSLATE the Thai script under the picture.

Anyone read Thai?

PLEASE HELP&#33;&#33; What do the words say under the picture?
On the amulet itself
Left hand side : Luang Por Pae
Right hand side : Age 84 years
Below the alumet : (don&#39;t know looks like Kmer language)

i had a staute of kun man tong had him for around 4yr eveyday feed him everyday with milk... But hw can i know whether his spirt is still in it or i am just praying nothing? Can anyone tell mi wat should i do to know whether he still there anot...

Kushinagar

01-06-2006, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by Beachy@Jun 1 2006, 02:10 PM
Thanks very much dude&#33;&#33;&#33; That&#39;s that mean it&#39;s some commemorative piece and it is less &#39;effective&#39; or &#39;valuable&#39; then LP Pae&#39;s other amulets? =(((
Pse note that yr thought are incorrect as this is as good as any amulet LP Pae had ever created cos it&#39;s consecrated by him. It was made for his 84th birthday.

As the pic of yr amulet u posted was quite blur, it&#39;s difficult to tell whether it&#39;s a genuine piece. As u have the book, examine closely all the details on the front and back of the amulet. All details must correspond to the one in the book. If any details is out......then u shd know what i mean.
:goodluck:

Beachy

02-06-2006, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by Kushinagar@Jun 1 2006, 10:12 PM
Pse note that yr thought are incorrect as this is as good as any amulet LP Pae had ever created cos it&#39;s consecrated by him. It was made for his 84th birthday.

As the pic of yr amulet u posted was quite blur, it&#39;s difficult to tell whether it&#39;s a genuine piece. As u have the book, examine closely all the details on the front and back of the amulet. All details must correspond to the one in the book. If any details is out......then u shd know what i mean.
:goodluck:
I&#39;ve looked at it very closely, theres only a slight detail that&#39;s different from the book. That is the top row middle symbols (above LP Pae&#39;s head), but the book also not very clear, and I think the amulet is a bit old so the fine detail is a bit distorted. Is this possible? Also do you think people would bother to fake a silver piece? =((((

Do you have any LP Pae pendants? Perhaps we could meet up and compare.

Anyway, I&#39;ve stopped wearing that pendant already. Now wearing one 3D image of Buddha (with a kring/kling) inside. =P From slightly north of bangkok. My cousin gave it to me... said it was from some Aruthaya temple.

I&#39;m looking for a LP Sothorn 3D image of Buddha... or any 3 colour 3D Buddha. Any idea where I can find ORIGINAL ones?

+simon+

06-06-2006, 03:32 AM

Originally posted by NsR09@Jun 1 2006, 04:32 PM
i had a staute of kun man tong had him for around 4yr eveyday feed him everyday with milk... But hw can i know whether his spirt is still in it or i am just praying nothing? Can anyone tell mi wat should i do to know whether he still there anot...
correction me if I am wrong ..

having a KMT is actually providing a shelter for sprit before they reincarnate. thus the sprit will come and go.

me not into it . so cant tell much

lizard

11-06-2006, 03:35 AM

Originally posted by Kushinagar@Jun 1 2006, 10:12 PM
Pse note that yr thought are incorrect as this is as good as any amulet LP Pae had ever created cos it&#39;s consecrated by him. It was made for his 84th birthday.

As the pic of yr amulet u posted was quite blur, it&#39;s difficult to tell whether it&#39;s a genuine piece. As u have the book, examine closely all the details on the front and back of the amulet. All details must correspond to the one in the book. If any details is out......then u shd know what i mean.
:goodluck:

hi , mind sharing how much u chow for the lp pae lang ser 2514 . if its not convient can pm me cos i looking for one but i dun know the market price

95 Emperor

12-06-2006, 01:46 AM

1 question i have been wondering ..there r these thai nun wearing all white walking around neigbourhood asking for donation at kopitiam,shops...r they the real thing ..if we happen to donate where will the &#036; go?and they carry alot of amulets n color string. they r selling/or giving? can we buy the amulets from them? amulet real n activated?

can some1 tell more ?

Angry

12-06-2006, 11:49 AM

if u donate u can take the colour string. Amulets must buy.

:smile:

picanto

27-06-2006, 06:51 PM

Hi Brothers & Sisters

Any body know how to chant to Luong Pu Thuat? Please guide. Thanks in advance.

picanto

14-07-2006, 09:13 PM

Hi Riders

I got a thai amulet willing to give away, never wear before. Interested can pm me.

meruuu

19-07-2006, 05:42 AM

wonder if there is such tattoo service in sg ? would like to get 1.. also wondering if previous tattoos will stop me from getting these tattoos ? like dragon and demons etc..

any 1 knows where to head to , to get good and geninue amulets in thailand ? khunpaen etc.. what are the prices like and etc.. be it temple or shop..
hopefully they are able to converse in english / chinese

Kushinagar

17-11-2006, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by meruuu@Nov 15 2006, 03:27 PM
any 1 knows where to head to , to get good and geninue amulets in thailand ? khunpaen etc.. what are the prices like and etc.. be it temple or shop..
hopefully they are able to converse in english / chinese
Going to Thailand to source for what u want might not be a good idea if u&#39;re not well versed in what u&#39;re getting.

good and geninue amulets

Any properly consecrated amulet by the temple meet yr requirement as quote above.

khunpaen etc.. what are the prices like and etc..

Can be very cheap to very expensive. High end piece are limited in numbers and there&#39;s lots of imitation. Present guru pieces should be ralatively affordable. Whose KP u looking for?

** On a sideline, u are getting this amulet becos of "hearsay" or u know what u want from this amulet?

Kushinagar

17-11-2006, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by lizard@Nov 1 2006, 03:35 AM
good to know that many ppl are wearing amulets :smile:
How u let chowed yr KP oredi? Did u get the LP Pae BE2514?

The price for KPPPK is now WOW&#33; The last i know is about sg 8-12k region. Thai dealers are coming to sg to get amulet back to thailand to let chow cos the outflow almost depleted their stock. Those dealing with geniune amulet got no amulet to let chow, how? Come here chow back for a premium and let chow another markup lor.....:cheeky:

Just know yr stuff, do yr research and see the real thing. If not also gone de mah. understand?

The price for KPPPK is now WOW&#33; The last i know is about sg 8-12k region. Thai dealers are coming to sg to get amulet back to thailand to let chow cos the outflow almost depleted their stock. Those dealing with geniune amulet got no amulet to let chow, how? Come here chow back for a premium and let chow another markup lor.....:cheeky:

Just know yr stuff, do yr research and see the real thing. If not also gone de mah. understand?

huh 8k - 12k sg ? because i just saw one piece 70k bhat . :confused: it not tat i don know how to see is the price gap is too huge liao :confused:

huh 8k - 12k sg ? because i just saw one piece 70k bhat . :confused: it not tat i don know how to see is the price gap is too huge liao :confused:
Just be careful on this piece. Mintage 2000 world wide (200 pieces with Sahligah Dtagru). There are ppl paying more than sg10k but got a fake instead.

Kushinagar

05-12-2006, 03:14 AM

got any lp thuat amulet pic to see see?? my favourite hahaha

From the books...LP Thuat, Wat Changhai BE 2497

Kushinagar

05-12-2006, 03:15 AM

Phra LP Thuat Wat Prasaht BE2506

This batch of amulets was chanted by the highest number of monks ever chanted for Luang Poo Thuat&#39;s amulets in Thailand. It was chanted twice in BE2506, once in 5th to 9th Mar BE2506 by 234 monks and the second time 14th-15th November BE2506 by 180 monks. The amulets were created by Phra Kroo Samut Umpon, the abbot of Wat Prasaht at that time in BE2506. Phra Ah Jahn Tim Wat Chiang Hai helped Phra Kroo Samut Umpon to create this batch of amulets using Wat Chiang Hai Luang Poo Thuat BE2505 Lang Dtow Reap&#39;s mould of the 3 different sizes; Pim Yai, Pim Glahng and Pim Lek.

A total of more than 100,000 amulets consisting of Pim Yai, Pim Glahng and Pim Lek of different materials were created and chanted. However, 84,000 pieces of the amulets were stored inside the temple&#39;s chedi (pagoda) and the rest of the remaining were opened to the public to "chow" at 1 baht a piece.

There were many materials used for the creation of this batch of amulets mainly because the monks who came for the chanting, had brought along some of their own materials to mix with the rest of the materials. Therefore one could see many different colours of the amulets although it origined from the same mould.

The more popular Pim from this batch of amulet is Pim Yai Neua Khaow (White Material) as they contained the most Bangkoonprom material from broken somdej (by Somdej Ah Jahn Dtoh). But it is hard to find and usually not in good condition. The price is around 10,000 to 20,000 bahts.

Kushinagar

05-12-2006, 03:16 AM

Biography of Acharn Nong

Acarya Nong Dharmabhuto was borned in Ban Na Pradu, Ampher Kohk Poh, Jangwat Pattani. He was the eldest of the 3 childrens of Naai Riang and Nahng Torng Paeng. He studied at Wat Na Pradu until Primary 4.
When he reached the age to ordain, he went to Wat Mutjalin or Wat Dtuyong, Ampher Norng Jit Jangwat Pattani to be ordained as a monk on 27th Jun BE 2482. Phra Khru Piboon Samanawat (Ah Jahn Choom) was his preceptor and Dharma teacher. Acarya Nong studied Dharma at the temple until BE 2489.
In BE 2511, he became the abbot of Wat Sai kow and promoted to Phra Khru Tamatgitgohson in BE 2514. Acarya Nong respected Acarya Tim very much, because Acarya Tim was a monk who liked to search for knowledge and has a lot of wisdom in Dharma and magic chant. Acarya Nong followed Acarya Tim&#39;s footsteps in learning Dharma and magic chant, etc. One of the most obvious achievement of Acarya Nong was the creation of Dtagrut Narai Pleung Roop. Acarya Nong has the ability to make the most effective Dtagrut. Acarya Nong was famous for this Dtagrut and Luang Pu Thuat&#39;s amulets chanted in BE2514.
Luang Pu Thuat amulets are all very well proven. Many temples like to create Luang Pu Thuat amulets, but the problem lies in the amulets whether how effective are they, depends on the monk who chanted them. Luang Pu Thuat&#39;s amulets which was created by Acarya Nong, followed the same method used by Acarya Tim; before the actual day of chanting, 9 famous monks would be invited to bless the amulets throughout the night. The triple gems will be invited to enter the amulets.
In BE2514, Acarya Nong created the second batch of Luang Pu Thuat amulets at Wat Sai kow on 3rd Jan BE2514. During the chanting, it was claimed that Luang Pu Thuat came and entered the body of Acharn Mun, but Acharn Mun was not awared. Phra Phisan Dharmarangsi who was seated beside Acharn Mun was awared that somebody has entered his and asked "Who are you?" Then a voice from Acharn Mun replied that "I am Luang Pu Thuat Yeub Num Talay Jeud" after which he told Phra Phisan Dharmarangsi to continue with the chanting.
Before the chanting came to an end, Luang Pu Thuat instructed Phra Phisan Dharmarangsi to asked all monks to chant the Kathah Gamawahjah and Kathah Dab Tiang Chai (a chant to extinguish the candle), and he also specified that Luang Phor Sam Niang to be the monk to extinguish the candle.
Phra Phisan Dharmarangsi asked Luang Pu Thuat in which way this batch of Luang Pu Thuat are useful for. Luang Pu Thuat answered that this batch of amulets are good in preventing Accidents, Metta Mahahniyom and Najangngang (attractiveness).
Luang Pu Thuat amulets chanted by Acarya Nong are similar to all the Luang Pu Thuat amulets chanted by Acarya Tim because both of them were very close friends and Acarya Nong also took part in most chanting of Luang Pu Thuat by Acarya Tim. Thus, the effectiveness of Ah Jahn Nong&#39;s Luang Pu Thuat amulets are similar.
Especially the batch of BE 2514 Luang Pu Thuat amulets is very special because each amulet has a Narai Pleung Roop Dtagrut inserted which is very good for metta mahahniyom, protection from danger. This Dtagrut can help to prevent black magic and evil spirit. If someone wanted to harm you, it was claimed that this dtagrut could change your form and avert the danger, that is why this dtagrut is called Narai Pleung Roop (change form). When Acarya Tim was alive, he also carried this Dtagrut in his bag, and had always mentioned that if one wants to be safe, can go and ask for a Dtagrut Narai Pleung Roop from Acarya Nong.
Luang Pu Thuat Wat Sai Kow 2nd Batch BE 2514.
The amulets were created by Acarya Nong in BE 2514 is to distribute to people who contributed for the construction of a Buddha image in the figure of Yamakapatihariya. There were several moulds of 2 kinds and made from 2 substances.

1. Hand-mould. There is only one Pim (large mould) but consists of various block and were all Wahn substances.

2. Machine-mould. These are made of 2 kinds of substance and consists of the following Pims

wow u r gd in lp thuat amulet. haha . do u heard of lp thuat made by por tan nian? from wat tonliab? the amulet by him in veri low profile. heehee.

lizard

06-12-2006, 04:10 AM

Originally posted by Kushinagar@Dec 5 2006, 03:11 AM
Just be careful on this piece. Mintage 2000 world wide (200 pieces with Sahligah Dtagru). There are ppl paying more than sg10k but got a fake instead.

ya, i will be very careful on this piece . most likely i will get one during my trip to thai on next week.

if the price is right
:smile:

PinKcHicK

06-12-2006, 04:32 AM

Hey guys, actually i wanted to get one recently, but not much of knowledge.. so need ya guys help here...

I&#39;m not interested in gunmantong, or anything tat is &#39;mobile&#39; in my house cos i got past experience and SUPER phobia of hearing something farnie..

After i reviewed this year, this year has been a quite bad year for me in terms of work .. Moreover started to learn 2B this year, and fall like mad, blue black everywhere..

I do believe in thai god, but not sure if it will clash with taoist guan yin? Cos my house got one guan yin statue, but no one bai bai at home, cos it belongs to my bf&#39;s mum (we stay together).

Btw, I used to have a thai amulet too, not sure wat name, but my bf got from a thai temple at balestier de.. But one day it just went missing lor. Really can&#39;t find even digging whole house upside down.

Any advice?

lizard

06-12-2006, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by PinKcHicK@Dec 6 2006, 04:32 AM
Hey guys, actually i wanted to get one recently, but not much of knowledge.. so need ya guys help here...

I&#39;m not interested in gunmantong, or anything tat is &#39;mobile&#39; in my house cos i got past experience and SUPER phobia of hearing something farnie..

After i reviewed this year, this year has been a quite bad year for me in terms of work .. Moreover started to learn 2B this year, and fall like mad, blue black everywhere..

I do believe in thai god, but not sure if it will clash with taoist guan yin? Cos my house got one guan yin statue, but no one bai bai at home, cos it belongs to my bf&#39;s mum (we stay together).

Btw, I used to have a thai amulet too, not sure wat name, but my bf got from a thai temple at balestier de.. But one day it just went missing lor. Really can&#39;t find even digging whole house upside down.

Any advice?

if u need one , i can give u one for free. ( pm me ) my advise is if u do not know what u are geting , dont try to get an amulet ur self in singapore or thai less temples . because u might be over charge or worse get an amulet which is not chanted by monks.

if u wan to change ur luck , u could try wearing jatukum , narprok or rahu.
if it just for PENG AN any amulet will do.

if u need one , i can give u one for free. ( pm me ) my advise is if u do not know what u are geting , dont try to get an amulet ur self in singapore or thai less temples . because u might be over charge or worse get an amulet which is not chanted by monks.

if u wan to change ur luck , u could try wearing jatukum , narprok or rahu.
if it just for PENG AN any amulet will do.

things to consider are, price, size of amulet .

as for clash thing no worries , it just aint going to happen.
Change luck i heard very pantang de leh. Change until worse ho seh liao..
Better luck i prefer.. But the one u giving is wat kind? i heard not all for girls wor... :giddy:

can&#39;t pm la bro, my controls is down... :sorry:

luang

07-12-2006, 02:14 PM

ai ya actualli thai amulet is not pantang at all.. monk( l.p) created the amulet is for us to wear ping an n never say who can wear n who cannot wear ma. n for change luck is better to be more on urself . coz never think of wearing amulet will get rich hahahahah.

for wat i think getting a amulet outside is still ok non matter in sing or thai. n for overcharge is confirm de . is just tat more or less only. coz pple in to this trade they also wanted to earn n they also need to eat but also dun earn till so high la haha if like tat i also nothing to say haha. btw who like to start a business n loo kia all the time haha.

if u r wearing a fake amulet ( which not from temple or monks ) is still ok if U r not in to the collection or value. the most important is wat amulet u wear u must believe it non matter fake or real. :)

PinKcHicK

08-12-2006, 03:15 AM

i ever got one, my bf went to thai temple get for me de..
he even say every morning blow into the amulet to dunno wat.. den wear.. but i kept forgetting.. does tis realli work?

luang

08-12-2006, 03:38 PM

blow?? blow in the sense of wat??
dun realli understand?

PinKcHicK

08-12-2006, 11:24 PM

means hold the amulet inside the palm, cannot let ppl see, den blow into it.. machiam like it will bao you or something..

luang

09-12-2006, 02:19 AM

oh okok . mean he chanting n blow out . hahaha. for wat i know if a amulet is out from a temple does not need to chant anymore . coz wat type of chant the lp chant n kai kwang we do not know . n if u got the chanting n chant does not realli works on everybody. :) coz we does not siew lian n we maybe pronouce the word in thai wrongly we also donno , n btw i dun believe in recharge of the amulet power lor. normally went to temple let the monk pray is the best for ping an ping an . :) the best is wear the amulet n believe in it ur own self . heehee

PinKcHicK

09-12-2006, 02:32 AM

oh... icic.. no chanting la. i dun even noe a single thai word other than, SAWADEEKAH&#33; haha...

so how.. will it clash with the guan yin statue i have at home? but we dun bai bai dat one de

luang

09-12-2006, 02:37 AM

clash?? all r buddha or god in the heaven . :) how will the buddha amulet clash i also dunno? u kow wat i mean? heehee

PinKcHicK

09-12-2006, 02:40 AM

cos i hear those ppl say diff god dun put together mah.. i realli know nuts abt all these.. but i do believe they exist..

luang

09-12-2006, 02:45 AM

coz everyone got their own thinking . cant say it rite or wrong. the best is ur ownself tat how u think abt it. coz if a person tell u to do it like tat n u feel uncomfortable will u still do it ? i dun think u will continue to do tat way ba. so it up to u how u look get it n think abt it . heehee

Kushinagar

10-12-2006, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by PinKcHicK@Dec 9 2006, 02:32 AM
oh... icic.. no chanting la. i dun even noe a single thai word other than, SAWADEEKAH&#33; haha...

so how.. will it clash with the guan yin statue i have at home? but we dun bai bai dat one de
kathah chanting origin is written in Pali language

Note : Pali is a Middle Indo-Aryan dialect or prakrit. It is most famous as the liturgical language in which the scriptures of Theravada Buddhism (also known as the Pāli Canon or in Pāli the Tipitaka) were written down in Sri Lanka in the 1st century BCE in the Sinhalese script.

PinKcHicK

11-12-2006, 07:31 AM

cheam &#33;&#33;&#33; :giddy:

luang

11-12-2006, 04:59 PM

dunno too much the best hahah. still got more cheam de, hahha

luang

12-12-2006, 11:49 PM

any one collect Wat Lai Ac Daeng lp thuat??? :)

diu6er

13-12-2006, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by lizard@Dec 6 2006, 01:55 PM

if u need one , i can give u one for free. ( pm me ) my advise is if u do not know what u are geting , dont try to get an amulet ur self in singapore or thai less temples . because u might be over charge or worse get an amulet which is not chanted by monks.

if u wan to change ur luck , u could try wearing jatukum , narprok or rahu.
if it just for PENG AN any amulet will do.

things to consider are, price, size of amulet .

as for clash thing no worries , it just aint going to happen.
hello all

nice to hear this thread , btw u said luck can get jatu ..? how kun peng ? u have any jatu to be given away :smile:

lizard

16-12-2006, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by diu6er@Dec 13 2006, 04:04 PM
hello all

nice to hear this thread , btw u said luck can get jatu ..? how kun peng ? u have any jatu to be given away :smile:

sorry i dun have jtk to give away .

pinkchick, since ur bf is into amulets also maybe u could ask ur bf to get for u one. so tat u can ask him more on amulets. Because u already got ppl to teach u on the dos and donts. its is not good for mi to kaypo :cheeky:

lizard

16-12-2006, 09:02 PM

yoh kunshinagar,

i got what i am looking for during my trip. kppkm, see when u free we come out for kopi. would love to see your piece also .

:smile:

diu6er

17-12-2006, 02:50 AM

Originally posted by lizard@Dec 16 2006, 08:59 PM

sorry i dun have jtk to give away .

pinkchick, since ur bf is into amulets also maybe u could ask ur bf to get for u one. so tat u can ask him more on amulets. Because u already got ppl to teach u on the dos and donts. its is not good for mi to kaypo :cheeky:
icic ...personally got few pieces

if u refering to me i only have 2 - 3 pieces as i am not really a jtk fan.

ppl believe jtk will change or enchance ur luck. because of the rahu on the jtk amulet.

or u may wanna ask ur indian friends on lord vishu. because jtk is lord vishu in indian context. correct me if i am wrong :sweat:

diu6er

18-12-2006, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by lizard@Dec 17 2006, 08:07 AM

u mean u personally have a few pieces ? or me ?

if u refering to me i only have 2 - 3 pieces as i am not really a jtk fan.

ppl believe jtk will change or enchance ur luck. because of the rahu on the jtk amulet.

or u may wanna ask ur indian friends on lord vishu. because jtk is lord vishu in indian context. correct me if i am wrong :sweat:
saying me got few pieces haha..

me also not much infor on jt , just heard some here and there :cheeky:

OhMiGosh

30-12-2006, 03:08 AM

somdejs (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smodejsby8.jpg)

my amulets. :smile:

Louiskirk

12-01-2007, 07:29 PM

Hi there,i have some good stuffs on hand now...but hope experts out there...tell mi if its realli good stuffs...i have check it out in e market tat its cost quite a bit...pls gice mi some comment or mail mi @ andrewkerk@yahoo.com.sg

by the design of the amulets , should be from WAT RAKANG , the temple of thousand bells .:thumb:

lizard

16-01-2007, 02:21 AM

Originally posted by Kushinagar@January 14, 2007 12:14 am
As per sms, hope u understand. This was the piece as attached.

nice piece expect that the gold case spoilt it , because it cant retain the shape of the amulet amulet.

lizard

16-01-2007, 02:23 AM

Originally posted by Kushinagar@January 14, 2007 12:14 am
As per sms, hope u understand. This was the piece as attached.

this is my piece ,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/sooyi/dear/DSC00437.jpg

i only show the cert because for ur standard, the photo on the cert is enough to prove everyting
:smile:

ps: i dun mean cert represent 1oo% auth because cert is easier to copy den producing a fake amulet so brothers keen in collecting amulets nvr put all ur trust on cert. Always verify the amulet by ur self. a cert is just a bonus for collector .

PinKcHicK

25-01-2007, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by lizard@December 16, 2006 08:59 pm

sorry i dun have jtk to give away .

pinkchick, since ur bf is into amulets also maybe u could ask ur bf to get for u one. so tat u can ask him more on amulets. Because u already got ppl to teach u on the dos and donts. its is not good for mi to kaypo :cheeky:
if he noes anything i tink i won&#39;t be asking here :X

lizard

28-01-2007, 05:39 PM

hi guys just to share with u guys one of my friends collection.

http://sg.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ttlpeter/my_photos

jB

20-02-2007, 02:24 AM

lizard you do have a wide collection of pics there..any temples you visit regularly? I do go down to a Rahu temple at Katong there..and some buddhist temples like Burmese budd temple and Phor kark see and some others in Sg..nice seeing those that you have :thumb:

jB

20-02-2007, 02:28 AM

and oh ya I heard about from some friends and I got an amulet from thai, Long Phor Thut(Toot) dunno how to spell it..said to bless and protect like for us riders..haven&#39;t got my case done for it and the new chain..any advice or tips?

PinKcHicK

20-02-2007, 05:25 AM

wah realli?&#33; i NEED THAT&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

jB

20-02-2007, 10:54 PM

thats what I heard.. don&#39;t wanna test the prowess of it though :P not worth it..ask the senior for help (: need guidance too x)

Anybody can enlighten me on SE LI ZI(Rock)?Its left after a person or monk is cremated?I heard that its not cheap and very good and powerful?

lizard

10-03-2007, 04:15 AM

Originally posted by jB@February 20, 2007 02:28 am
and oh ya I heard about from some friends and I got an amulet from thai, Long Phor Thut(Toot) dunno how to spell it..said to bless and protect like for us riders..haven&#39;t got my case done for it and the new chain..any advice or tips?

luang phor thuat amulets are very good for rider/ drivers. There are many stories surrounding wearers who worn luang phor thuat amulets and escape injury free in accidents.

If u ask me , will i reccommand luang phor thuat amulets for riders i will definately say yes :smile:

if anyone is keen in knowning the legends/history behind luang phor thuat&#39;s life u all can do a search in this thread ( hobbies talk ) i remember posting it.

jB

10-03-2007, 09:13 PM

ty lizard..btw wanna ask does it protects one like the buddha amulet does? cuz I gave up 3 of my buddha amulet to wear a simple long phor around my neck..cuz of comfort for sports and stuff..then wondering does it differ?

luang

13-03-2007, 01:16 PM

all amulet had the same protect. it just how much faith u believe in the amulet.

FireSpitter

14-03-2007, 06:04 AM

I would like to know where can I get a genuine monk to visit my house to do blessing?

pktan

15-03-2007, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by FireSpitter@March 14, 2007 06:04 am
I would like to know where can I get a genuine monk to visit my house to do blessing?
Thai Monk?

You might want to try the Thai Temple along Bukit Merah?

jB

15-03-2007, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by luang@March 13, 2007 01:16 pm
all amulet had the same protect. it just how much faith u believe in the amulet.
noted (:

jB

15-03-2007, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by pktan@March 15, 2007 07:50 pm
Thai Monk?

You might want to try the Thai Temple along Bukit Merah?
and thats gotta be Wat Ananda, the only Thai Temple recognised by the Thai Embassy...even the thai ambassador goes there on occasions..

my gor jiam worth of comments :cheeky:

lizard

10-05-2007, 01:33 AM

Originally posted by jB@March 15, 2007 08:00 pm
and thats gotta be Wat Ananda, the only Thai Temple recognised by the Thai Embassy...even the thai ambassador goes there on occasions..

my gor jiam worth of comments :cheeky:

brother so how, if u manage to invite the luang phor over to bless ur house ?

lizard

10-05-2007, 01:36 AM

by the way i going over to bkk in a weeks time. so if u all need anything in thai, i might help u all bring back .

mi5trooper

28-05-2007, 12:45 PM

dear brothers. need advice. i wanted to get amulet in hatyai. any place (with monk blessing) can you help recommand? many thanks.

** need for good luck, work good, health good, home good.
** i was told by more then 1 teller that my life does not have "side luck" (for eg win in toto or etc). I only have "straight luck" (for eg reward due to hard work or etc). what amulet is blessing to "side luck"?

DenverDino

01-06-2007, 09:57 PM

i use to have this amulet call Kun Mun Tong...I had it for one week...and once i was changing in school toilet...i left it behind... once i step out of the toilet i realise i forgotten it..i went back to the cucible to retrieve it but it was GOne jusT like That..Strange eNUff there was no one else in the TOi and i thinK maYB i ILl-treaTed it. cos my fren all pray him waith milk,sweets and TOys..and hence IT Left Me for GOod...ProbabLY having Good lIfe out there... :? :?

Never Play with Khun Mum Tong if you never really take care him. Like what u say he need toy and food just like a small kid. And if you beg him to help u to do something alway remember to return him or just pamper him with sweet or candy. Just share out some info....

DenverDino

01-06-2007, 10:00 PM

Just to share something with all those loyal Buddhism. Check this out.

Anybody can enlighten me on SE LI ZI(Rock)?Its left after a person or monk is cremated?I heard that its not cheap and very good and powerful?

If someone is selling you the SE LI ZI then you just need one pcs will do cause SE LI ZI will grow itself. This thing was i heard from thai ppl. Even my Somdej got SE LI ZI will also grow at first was one pcs then now got three pcs liao.

DenverDino

01-06-2007, 10:08 PM

any 1 knows where to head to , to get good and geninue amulets in thailand ? khunpaen etc.. what are the prices like and etc.. be it temple or shop..
hopefully they are able to converse in english / chinese

Friend try to go Yao Wat Rao(Chinatown) in the evening. That area got more thai chinese and amulet shop that own by chinese ppl. Then after you shop for your amulet then u can go for Shark fin over there.

myusha

02-06-2007, 11:03 AM

by the way i going over to bkk in a weeks time. so if u all need anything in thai, i might help u all bring back .

i might need something... but maybe will be better if i go there myself? ^^

DenverDino

04-06-2007, 12:48 PM

hi guys just to share with u guys one of my friends collection.

http://sg.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ttlpeter/my_photos

Wow... friend u got Lp Tim first batch of Kun pan?

DenverDino

04-06-2007, 12:55 PM

i might need something... but maybe will be better if i go there myself? ^^

i think is good if you really can get it yourself in Thai temple. This is my personal experience that happen on myself. For example those that i bought in SG only 4-5 out of 10 can really works then those in Thai abt 8. So believe or not is all depend on you.

lizard

05-06-2007, 03:00 AM

Wow... friend u got Lp Tim first batch of Kun pan?

ya phim yai sorng takut .

lizard

05-06-2007, 03:02 AM

i think is good if you really can get it yourself in Thai temple. This is my personal experience that happen on myself. For example those that i bought in SG only 4-5 out of 10 can really works then those in Thai abt 8. So believe or not is all depend on you.

what u do u mean by work ? as in fake of auth or jalan.

lizard

05-06-2007, 03:13 AM

i might need something... but maybe will be better if i go there myself? ^^

if u wanna go there spend 500 on airticket juat to look for amulets. costing 30-20 chearper. i suggerst u not to do there. If wanna get any amulet to wear i believe singapore bt merah thai temple. the 2nd abbot sometimg will give out amulet.

unless u go there relax holiday den u can go to those temples in bangkok. and buy one from the amulets counter. pricing will range from 100b - few k b.

lizard

05-06-2007, 03:50 AM

dear brothers. need advice. i wanted to get amulet in hatyai. any place (with monk blessing) can you help recommand? many thanks.

** need for good luck, work good, health good, home good.
** i was told by more then 1 teller that my life does not have "side luck" (for eg win in toto or etc). I only have "straight luck" (for eg reward due to hard work or etc). what amulet is blessing to "side luck"?

den in jatukam there are over thousand of model, price can range from $40 sgd to 19k sgd. + if u dun know how to see real and fake pieces. U will be
MEGA CARROT HEAD. they will chop till u 1.1mm thin .

DenverDino

05-06-2007, 10:20 AM

what u do u mean by work ? as in fake of auth or jalan.

i mean jalan lor.

diu6er

05-06-2007, 01:51 PM

fake or not...it goes to faith ..

mi5trooper

12-06-2007, 05:04 PM

how about good health. any particular ambulet that i should focus on?

I am very 迷信 one.

DenverDino

13-06-2007, 08:15 PM

Jatukram is very good... good luck and protection.

mi5trooper

14-06-2007, 09:37 AM

i have 3 that i keep. 1 for good luck (the rightful way). one for female luck. one for business luck. (i know all is for luck lah). i hope to find one that is specially bless for health.

** actually i think i have 4. i place one on my vehicle

diu6er

14-06-2007, 11:55 AM

i have 3 that i keep. 1 for good luck (the rightful way). one for female luck. one for business luck. (i know all is for luck lah). i hope to find one that is specially bless for health.

** actually i think i have 4. i place one on my vehicle

bro ..female is kp right ..then for business what u carrying ?

mi5trooper

14-06-2007, 01:17 PM

i know little about the name. i take pic and show u later. i belief becos it really effect me mentally. i have my first 1 went i was able to lose a job. (i got a job offer after return from trip).

1 got my 2nd one when i was back stapped at work place. (i ask for better relationship and good luck). and it work again.

1 got the 3rd one in some mountain people during my visit. it is for the good luck with female one. this was not given by the monk. but i felt a strange feeling everything it is hang there (if put in drawer, it will not have that feeling). so i presume believe in it.

as i say, i don't really study these. i am strong believing it only.

i will take picture and post here. but i really don't know how. i will explore.

Angry

14-06-2007, 02:35 PM

i have 3 that i keep. 1 for good luck (the rightful way). one for female luck. one for business luck. (i know all is for luck lah). i hope to find one that is specially bless for health.

** actually i think i have 4. i place one on my vehicle

Any pics to show ?

DenverDino

14-06-2007, 06:23 PM

i think rider should wear Haruman... Protection and avoid govement servicer. Or can wear Pita... i think all we need is protection.

darky

14-06-2007, 07:12 PM

i had this khoon peng when i was younger. i felt that it really does give me good luck. but after an accident back then, it broke to pieces. was thinking of replacing it. any recommendations?

DenverDino

14-06-2007, 08:09 PM

i had this khoon peng when i was younger. i felt that it really does give me good luck. but after an accident back then, it broke to pieces. was thinking of replacing it. any recommendations?

you mean the casing break or amulet? if amulet break liao then cant help liao bettter go look for new one.

Lp Phoon yrs2549 100th days pass away anniversary Khoon Pan
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I have all this Lp phoon Khoon Pan total of 5pcs but the last was hard to find and expensive because is made of pure gold.

I had been a collector for about 10yrs for now.
All tks to my dad.....he's in this trade for more than 20yrs.......
and been a collector since the age of 12........

my personal view :

Buddhism is a daily life......ways of living !
Amulet collection is a hobby, something like antique collections i should put it.
Collect amulet they way you like it not the way others promote it.
You'll make a huge loss if you follow what others say (trust me).
I have see more than that........
Logic isn't it...why pay S$400 for a (yesterday-out-of-the-oven) item,
when you can get some 100yrs old amulet that is buried for rutual purposes!

And also a lot of people send their amulet to thailand for cert for a fee of S$50 or more to prove that their amulet is of A grade.
All these Certification are nothing but BullShit !!!
No Offence....Really !
They (Thais) are just aiming for the $$$........
Latest Technologies can duplicate old amulet to the closest and only very
experience collector can defers................

Be yourself, trust your own judgements.........
Collect what you think is worth and like......

Cheers !!!

mi5trooper

25-06-2007, 09:52 AM

hi puffer.

with your experience, do you know which amulet is know for it "power" in blessing good health (very important to me).

And do u know the reason for putting a 4 face budda in front of the house? i still thinking how to but a 4 face budda at hdb. :-)

Thank you.

Puffer

25-06-2007, 11:27 AM

hi puffer.

with your experience, do you know which amulet is know for it "power" in blessing good health (very important to me).

And do u know the reason for putting a 4 face budda in front of the house? i still thinking how to but a 4 face budda at hdb. :-)

4-face buddha or Brahma :
Brahma is a Hindu God. belongs to the class "Deva".
Different level to most of the Thai Buddha.
Brahma is a BIG God.....Similar to Thai's 3 Gem.......
...Jade Buddha

We respected by placing them in Big temple or big houses...a garden by itself
So far haven't seen anyone dare to place it in HDB...not even indian who are
Bharmaism (mean devoted only to him), maybe a poster of him but not the (Golden Body) 金身。

4-face buddha or Brahma :
Brahma is a Hindu God. belongs to the class "Deva".
Different level to most of the Thai Buddha.
Brahma is a BIG God.....Similar to Thai's 3 Gem.......
...Jade Buddha

We respected by placing them in Big temple or big houses...a garden by itself
So far haven't seen anyone dare to place it in HDB...not even indian who are
Bharmaism (mean devoted only to him), maybe a poster of him but not the (Golden Body) 金身。

Bharma is good for business.....Central control....

The 4 face Buddha is also known as Phra Phrom. I have just moved into a small HDB flat but have a mini wall mounted altar outside my house to place Phra Phrom for my worshipping. Inside my house another altar for "Saturday Buddha" (Forgot the name).

FireSpitter

25-06-2007, 01:04 PM

brother so how, if u manage to invite the luang phor over to bless ur house ?

Yes. I spoke to Master Chao Koon and on the appointed date, he allocated 3 monks to follow me to my new home. I would have loved it if he could have been 1 of the 3 but unfortunately, he was travelling back to Thailand during the appointed date.

Puffer

25-06-2007, 10:42 PM

The 4 face Buddha is also known as Phra Phrom. I have just moved into a small HDB flat but have a mini wall mounted altar outside my house to place Phra Phrom for my worshipping. Inside my house another altar for "Saturday Buddha" (Forgot the name).

Yes ! In thai it is Phra Phrom.
The initial Brahma in india has only one face and 4 hands.

There are incidents of stolen 4-face god.
mainly because of reasons tat believer thinks that that's not the place for him.
Pls secure it on the altar ! in case !
be it the value !

FireSpitter

26-06-2007, 10:10 AM

Yes ! In thai it is Phra Phrom.
The initial Brahma in india has only one face and 4 hands.

There are incidents of stolen 4-face god.
mainly because of reasons tat believer thinks that that's not the place for him.
Pls secure it on the altar ! in case !
be it the value !

Yes. I have heard about stolen god statues before but ironically, would a God protect the new "owner" when he has gotten the God through a dishonest way? I leave this to fate (And my karma) if it does happen (TOUCH WOOD!)

Puffer

30-06-2007, 12:53 PM

Yes. I have heard about stolen god statues before but ironically, would a God protect the new "owner" when he has gotten the God through a dishonest way? I leave this to fate (And my karma) if it does happen (TOUCH WOOD!)

As my dad also say.......
可信不可迷

DenverDino

30-06-2007, 03:31 PM

Fully agree with you... 可信不可迷

mi5trooper

02-07-2007, 05:02 PM

so actually 4 face budda must be place inside of the house or outside of the house?

4-face buddha or Brahma :
Brahma is a Hindu God. belongs to the class "Deva".
Different level to most of the Thai Buddha.
Brahma is a BIG God.....Similar to Thai's 3 Gem.......
...Jade Buddha

We respected by placing them in Big temple or big houses...a garden by itself
So far haven't seen anyone dare to place it in HDB...not even indian who are
Bharmaism (mean devoted only to him), maybe a poster of him but not the (Golden Body) 金身。

Bharma is good for business.....Central control....

FireSpitter

03-07-2007, 01:51 AM

so actually 4 face budda must be place inside of the house or outside of the house?

I see the Phra Phrom is usually placed outside the house but I think it is not important. Most important is that you should worship it inside your heart sincerely.

mi5trooper

03-07-2007, 08:02 AM

a person need to have some belief so as he could live happily ever after even if the situation he is in is a s-hit hole.

lizard

06-07-2007, 02:31 AM

hi guys if u guys are looking for amulets of jtk or lp pae, lp toh, pu tim stuff u guys can pm mi. My prices will definately be cheaper if u compare to the shops in sg.

cheers
lizard

mi5trooper

06-07-2007, 10:06 AM

just buy a new bike. got any recommand ambulet type to put on the bike?

hi guys if u guys are looking for amulets of jtk or lp pae, lp toh, pu tim stuff u guys can pm mi. My prices will definately be cheaper if u compare to the shops in sg.

cheers
lizard

juS^riDe

06-07-2007, 01:55 PM

hi ppl..would like to ask how often do u all tk de amulets for the monk to pray ah??:confused:

mi5trooper

06-07-2007, 02:15 PM

last time when i start doing long distance riding many years ago, i use this as an excuse to talk myself into visiting thailand every year (1-2 month interval).

depend on your belief. actually once is enough (from my point of view).

learn to chant the chant and chant it yourself is a good practice too. i find that my mind get free up from this chant (which i don't understand a single letter). it is like remove from worry for a min. don't need tobe long, about 20-30min will do. similar to doing yoga. (from my point of view)

I find this work. i am less hot temper since practice. i don't practice often, only once in a while to de-stress also to maintain my belief.

Some of the brother yet actually have more chant knowledge then me. i only know a few word and repeat them all the time. hehe...

now i remember, luang phor thuat is in pattni. and the monk i visited is call luang phor kon.

Puffer

11-07-2007, 11:45 PM

so actually 4 face budda must be place inside of the house or outside of the house?

Outside is better !

Puffer

11-07-2007, 11:50 PM

All Bros,

If you are wearing amulets tat is more than 100yrs old !
There's no need to ask any monk to chant on it !
The power the amulets accumulated thru the years of incence smoke and
millions of prayers.........plus buried into the soil.....
The power is suppose to last u a few life times......
unless u kanna any black magic or curse.....
it must show sign of color changes or even break into half !
personally ! i have seen even metal amulets broke micely into half !
inside the casing somemore !

luang

12-07-2007, 12:08 AM

power of amulet is not accumulated thur yr or more incence smoke n also not million of prayer then power le :). it all go by faith, n how much faith u haf in urself. :)

mi5trooper

12-07-2007, 09:49 AM

hmm... black magic. that nice. i do not know nor have i visited a real black magic practice monk yet. i will wish to eye open, pls update us if u know of any.

juS^riDe

12-07-2007, 04:32 PM

haa..yeah man..but seems scary ah..hehe..

Puffer

13-07-2007, 10:02 AM

power of amulet is not accumulated thur yr or more incence smoke n also not million of prayer then power le :). it all go by faith, n how much faith u haf in urself. :)

It is suppose to be explained in that simple way.
If one has so much faith, and if faith alone itself can do,
than there's no need for amulet.
Either you pick up a rock or......
Your heart is the best amulet ever presented to you.
Cheers !

Puffer

13-07-2007, 10:04 AM

hmm... black magic. that nice. i do not know nor have i visited a real black magic practice monk yet. i will wish to eye open, pls update us if u know of any.

Monk are not allow to practice black magic.
Breaks the rules.
They learn them to know how to prevent and cure them, not
misuse them.
They in the other way uses white magic.

Mostly black magic was free by thai lady or business man. When their mind going to get something from you they can do some chanting on you then u will lost. I hear from friends if you visit a hooker in anywhere try not to let those lady to touch on the floor. Is some kind of magic also. Or in Indonesia also have... most common one is touch on your shoulder you will lost everything.

DenverDino

14-07-2007, 12:53 AM

hmm... black magic. that nice. i do not know nor have i visited a real black magic practice monk yet. i will wish to eye open, pls update us if u know of any.

Go Goldenmile to buy those thai black magic VCD lor. Some of the movie is basic on true story.

For older amulet, it's quite easy for experience collector to know it's real or fake. Cause they should have seen enough. During their time, those amulets they saw are consider new to them.

But market is flooded with quite a number of really good artwork amulet.
Like Phra Somdej.....which are very ex......carelessness costs more.

About new amulets, to me, it's a today mould, today oven, tml market sold.
If at our time now, thai is capable of duplicating the old amulet to similarity of 99%.
So how do we judge? Like the Jetukam? How?
Issit abt sending back to the thai, pay them $50, get a cert with it?

Maybe we should ask Luang for his opinion.

juS^riDe

14-07-2007, 11:52 AM

for experience collector la..ha..but i see all like also same sure kena con..haha...ya lo...Luang wats ur opinion??=)

mi5trooper

14-07-2007, 01:42 PM

good idea. i got buy a vcd to see the magic. hehe...

DenverDino

15-07-2007, 08:29 PM

good idea. i got buy a vcd to see the magic. hehe...

good for you mah... as least u knew something.

Laguna11

16-07-2007, 02:46 AM

can i ask as u guys mention above the safety amulet for riding on rd.. its better to get frm bangkok (where ?)
or to get frm sg ( is that the same? & where? )
do they (the seller/monk) realli ask for price ? costly ?
cos i dunn wanna get chopped for a nothing..

juS^riDe

16-07-2007, 10:54 AM

you can go Blk 85 , #01-188 Bedok North St. 4 there's a shop sell thai amulets. find a guy call Ah Zhuan he is owner of the shop:)

bro..u can try here ba..1 of de bro recommend..

lizard

20-07-2007, 02:32 AM

can i ask as u guys mention above the safety amulet for riding on rd.. its better to get frm bangkok (where ?)
or to get frm sg ( is that the same? & where? )
do they (the seller/monk) realli ask for price ? costly ?
cos i dunn wanna get chopped for a nothing..

luang phor thuat amulets are the best for safety. they can range from
$10K + to $10 depending on who made the amulets. This is more of the collector value.

if u really keen pm me i can help u find one .

quark

23-07-2007, 02:23 PM

Hey people,

Do you have article to read about all this thai amulet ?
Like history of it , what it does etc...

Anyway i have one amulet same as the Lizard avatar. But its gone. drop it or something try to look for it but no luck. I been wearing it for more then 8 years. Its from my uncle from thailand.
Any idea where to get a piece? Do i need take a trip down to thailand to pick it from there?

Please advise.
Thanks in advance.

lizard

26-07-2007, 12:38 PM

Luang Phor Thuat was born at Ban Suan Chan, Chumphol district, Sathing Phra in in Songkhla, Southern Thailand in the year of A.D.1582 (B.E.2125) when his parents had passed their 40s.

When he was less than 6 months old, he was placed in a towel under a shady tree near the padi field while his mother was working. At noon she ceased work for a time in order to breast-feed him. As she walked towards the baby, she saw a huge python curled round him. Alarmed, she called out for help. The neighbours quickly gathered whatever weapons they could and came round.

The python was stern and motionless. The people around did not know what to do. No one dared to initiate an attack. His mother, however, had an idea.

She remembered the ancient belief that this snake might be an avatar of the gods. So she plucked 7 wild flowers of different colours, put them on a leaf, and offering rice cakes,threw herself down at the ground and bowed to the Python. After a while, the Python spit out a crystal ball of manifold colours on the baby�s chest and slithered away. His mother kept the gem and brought him home.

A rich man offered a very good price for the crystal ball. LP Thuad's mother did not wish to sell it. The wealthy man then tried to force her to sell it using undue pressure. At last LP Thuad's mother relented in the face of the rich man's pressure.

The rich man was elated, but only for a while. Within three days, all members in his family fell ill. Consulting a medium, he was told that he had kept something which did not rightfully belong to him. Only the baby boy (LP Thuad) could keep it. The rich man became frightened and returned the crystal ball to the baby�s mother.

Luang Phor Thuad began to learn about the Buddhist teaching in a temple nearby at the age of 5 years old. Being naturally talented, he mastered all subjects his teacher could guide him within a year. He went to other temples over the hill and across the jungle to acquire further teaching every day. He became a monk at the age of 12 years old and devoted a full time study in the Dharmma. His father passed away at the age of 72 years old when he was 30 years old. In order to further the studies in Buddhism, he left his mother and went to other provinces.

From his present location, Wat Pakok, Singora, Thailand, LP Thuad took a boat bound northwards to Ayuthaya province (a former capital of Thailand). After sailing for half a day, the boat met with great storms. The crew were frightened. The boat did not arrive at its destination after drifting for several days. The supplies of drinking water were running low.

The crew, being superstitious, unfairly blamed their misfortune on the presence of LP Thuad. They planned to throw him overboard into the sea.

Sensing their ill intentions, LP Thuad calmly consoled them that they needed not worry about drinking water as there was plenty around. As he stretched his leg out of the boat, the storm suddenly abated. Using his leg, he drew a circle on the sea and told the boatmen to draw water within it to drink.

The crew were furious! They thought that this monk was trying to pull a fast one on them (that is, they thought he was trying to trick them). After LP Thuad's assurance that the water is actually drinkable, one of them decided to give it a try. He found that the water was indeed fit for consumption! Soon the rest of the crew went to drink the water to verify it for themselves. One curious crew member purposely tasted the water outside the circle and shouted that it was salty. The crew soon abandoned their thoughts of harming LP Thuad.

On the next day, the boat arrived at Ayuthaya province. LP Thuad walked for a few miles and was happy to come across a grand temple. The monks in the temple refused to accept him as he was poorly clad. He then turned to an old temple not very far away. The old keeper welcomed him and offered him board and lodging. He stayed there to study Buddhist scriptures, to pay homage to the Buddha and to practise meditation. He did this for half a year.

The ruler of a neighbouring Buddhist country, the King of Sri Lanka, eyeing the growing wealth and power of the kingdom of Thailand, sent seven monks to Ayuthaya province to test the achievements of the monks in Thailand. They brought with them 12 bowls containing 84,000 words. These words were to be arranged into a certain sutra within 1 week. If the task was accomplished, King of Sri Lanka would present Thailand with 7 boats made of gold. However, should the task be unsuccessful, Thailand would have to surrender its sovereignty to Sri Lanka. The Thai King found it difficult to reject such a challenge as if did so, Thailand would be the laughing stock of the Buddhist world and of the world at large. The Thai King then gathered all his country's well-known learned monks to deal with this problem. Many tried but were unsuccessful.

A Royal Announcement was made to look for someone capable of dealing with the task. On the fourth night, the King dreamed of a white elephant trumpeting in brillant light. He consulted a fortune-teller and was told that it was a fortuitous sign as a sage was likely to appear to solve the problem. The King was, nevertheless, uncertain.

On the sixth day, LP Thuad left the temple in the morning to ask for alms in the form of food. He arrived at a rich man�s house. Thai subjects were discussing about the country's current crisis. They saw him holding a bowl standing in front of their doors. The rich host reverently offered him food. He sensed that the monk in front was rather extraordinary in appearance. He paid LP Thuad due respect and told the latter that their country which reputed for their Buddhist studies would be put to shame if no one could meet the challenge put forward by Sri Lanka and asked whether he could help. LP Thuad replied that he would try. The rich host was very happy. He intended to invite LP Thuad to see the King immediately. LP Thuad told him not to be in a hurry and he would go the next morning.

After LP Thuad had left, the rich host delivered the good news to the King. The next morning, a special Royal carriage to bring LP Thuad to the palace.

On arrival he was escorted by officials to the entrance of the royal palace. The steps boomed with loud sound as LP Thuad walked on them barefooted. The King and the officials were all very quiet.

About half an hour later the monks from Sri Lanka came in. After exchanging greetings out of formality, LP Thuad began to arrange the words. 12 bowls of words were poured on the table. He closed his eyes and arranged them with both hands. After about a quarter of an hour, he announced that 5 words were missing.

The 7 Sri Lankan monks remained silent. He then warned that anyone who did not quickly take out those missing words would die a most horrible death with a cracked skull. The culprit was frightened and took out those missing words.

With his eyes closed Luang Phor Thuat exercised his supernormal power to arrange the words. The sutra was completed in a little while. Seeing that Thailand had successfully responded to Sri Lanka's challenge, those 7 monks presented those 7 boats made of gold and left. Thus LP Thuad�s name became well-known throughout the country. He was henceforth looked upon as a saintly Buddhist monk in Thai history.

Impressed by LP Thuad's wisdom, the Thai king bestowed upon him the rank and title of "Somdej Phra Rajamuni Samiramagunupamacarya". LP Thuad also later became King Ekadasaroth's (King of Sri Lanka) advisor.

LP Thuad remained in the capital city for a few years until he was informed of his mother�s serious illness. He rushed southwards and not long after, his mother died at the age of 78. After the funeral he stayed in Singora, Thailand.

Upon returning home, LP Thuad had found that Wat Pha Khoh in ruins. He then sent a messenger to the Thai King asking if his majesty could help restore the temple. The Thai King was only too glad to help and the temple was soon restored to its former state. The Thai King also bestowed the land surrounding the temple on LP Thuad and the 250 families living around that area.

A state governor from the south by the surname of Phang, a man with a comparatively dark countenance, wanted to build a Buddhist temple. He came to Singora to look for a distinguished monk to head the project. One evening after sunset, he saw an old monk stroll along the seaside, leaving behind a trail of light. He knew that this was the monk to approach. He stepped forward to pay due respect to the LP Thuad and told him of his intention to build a temple in Pattani. LP Thuad already knew about the matter through his psychic powers. He consented and went with governor Phang to Pattani. When the construction was completed, the temple was named Wat Changhai. LP Thuad was abbot of this temple till he passed away at the age of 120 years old. (However, some sources say no one really knew when LP Thuad had passed away)

In the later part of his life, LP Thuad dedicated his life to spreading Buddhism. After he has passed away from this life, he manifested in the dreams of his disciples. They then started to make amulets of his image. Even today, many amulets made of his image continue to be produced. Many Thais today can testify to the protective powers of LP Thuad amulets (amulets of the image of LP Thuad)

**Wat Changhai is situated at Naparu, Koppo District, Pattani, Thailand. It was built over three hundred years ago. It was also the place where Luang Phor Thuad gained Enlightenment.

lizard

26-07-2007, 12:49 PM

can i ask as u guys mention above the safety amulet for riding on rd.. its better to get frm bangkok (where ?)

Geting it here sg or bangkok the only different will be the price. Most importantly is to get a properly bless piece. which mean consecreated in a temple.

or to get frm sg ( is that the same? & where? )

U can either get it at Amulets shops, or request for one when u make a visit to thai temples locally. The last place to get will be thru internet unless u know what u are geting and how to verify the auth.

do they (the seller/monk) realli ask for price ? costly ?

In thailand, temples do sell amulets at counters. The money receive will either go to restoring of temple ground or other charity purposes like building of schools ect.

On the surface, it seems that the booming trade in Jatukam talismans in Nakhon Si Thammarat (NST) is a completely positive development for the province. When one looks deeper, however, it becomes apparent that there is a downside to being ground zero for the phenomenon that has taken Thailand by storm.

The abrupt success of Jatukam-related businesses has translated into jobs and prosperity for many people. Locals commonly observe that the amphetamine trade in the province is not as widespread as before. This is in line with statistics from the Office of the Narcotics Control Board (ON**) which reveal that in October of last year there were 121 drug cases in NST province. Six months later, in March, the number of cases had drastically declined to only four (see graphic).

No clear explanation has been given behind the waning of activity, but it seems plausible that it could be due to a switch from amphetamine trafficking to the legal marketing of Jatukam.

On the other hand, reports on crimes such as theft, often involving Jatukam, are on the increase in the province, as a quick glance at local newspapers attests. This might be related to the high demand for some Jatukam models.

Many locals are also worried that some people in the Jatukam trade do their business in dishonest ways. "I met one of my students who purchased imitation Jatukam that cost him around 100 baht for three images. He said he sells them for 800 baht each in Bangkok," said a teacher at a secondary school.

"I asked him, don't you think this is a sinful act? He told me that he was just satisfying the needs of those buyers who want to get special models at a low price," he added.

Moreover, there are a number of reports that some vendors have run away with money from buyers who paid in advance for yet-to-be released models, using forged advance reservation books. The fake agencies do not show up on the appointed days to give buyers the talismans.

Distinguishing Jatukams

The Wat Wang Tawan Tok area of NST, long an area for buying and selling amulets, has turned into a paradise for those who want to buy sought-after models of Jatukam priced from 70 to 100 baht each. Priced this low, it is doubtful they have passed through the sacred ritual, which, along with the materials used to produce them, distinguishes the "real from the fake" images. Reportedly, only a skilled eye can tell the difference.

When Perspective visited Wat Wang Tawan Tok last month there was a huge crowd of people, even though it wasn't on the weekend. Most locals know about the place where people can buy Jatukam that have not passed through the sacred ritual. Many people were buying the Jatukam for souvenirs or gifts, others purchased large amounts but declined to say why.

Vendors were also close-mouthed about how and where they obtained the Jatukam.

If only people paid attention to the materials which are purportedly incorporated into certain models of Jatukam, they would likely question how they could be obtained.

Brochures and leaflets promoting various Jatukam models list the components. For example, one model claims to use bits of earth surrounding the burial site of the placental material and umbilical cord of Luang Por Tuod (Wat Chang Hai, Pattani), who is said to have passed away 425 years ago. When Perspective tried to contact persons in charge of the production of this amulet at Wat Mahayong in NST to ask about the claim, a monk deferred the question to some people at a downtown centre. When these people were tracked down, they also failed to provide any information on how they were able to find the place where the placenta was buried.

On reflection, it would seem that many of the materials might be quite hard to secure, such as soils from places mentioned in the chronicle of the Lord Buddha's journeys in India and Nepal. Some Jatukam models are even claimed to contain leaves of Sara trees in Kushinagar, the place where the Lord Buddha attained paranirvana.

The agencies responsible for obtaining the materials claim they are able to get them by sending people to India and Nepal, but they do not want to be named in newspapers.

The sacred rituals are usually performed at various temples. Some models advertise that the ritual is performed on multiple occasions -- three, five, seven, up to nine times _ on particular Jatukam. Most models perform the ritual, at least once, at Pra Mahathat Voramahaviharn temple, the main temple in Nakhon Si Thammarat, which is fully booked until the end of this year.

The rituals have certainly interrupted the normal schedule of those who wish to study and practise Dharma. One nun and her followers had to move their classes from the main Vihara of the temple to a kitchen. "There are a lot of noises since the temple became the venue of sacred rituals for Jatukam," said the nun.

The rituals for some models are held on mountaintops which are considered sacred, or the "umbilical cord of the sea", reportedly at the mouth of the Nakhon Si Thammarat sea located in Pak Phanang district.

There are a number of monks, shamans and Brahmans whose presence is highly prized at these rituals. Some producers say they have to put a large amount of money into an envelope for each of these holy men.

WHAT IF MARKET SHRINKS?

The Jatukam-related business provides income not only for the buyers and sellers, but also for the workers and artisans who make the talismans and paint them with gold or silver. The financial boon is distributed to other provinces such as Bangkok and Nakhon Pathom, as there are not enough factories in NST to mould them. Work is even contracted out as far as a ceramics factory in France.

There are many success stories, such as the former janitor-turned-talisman vendor whose income has skyrocketed. Young people who used to spend their time riding their motorcycle in a dangerous manner now occupy themselves with packing and painting the talismans, selling T-shirts with the images of popular models, working at the factories, etc. Many venture into the forest to find materials for making the talismans, such as eaglewood, wild jasmine and so on. (As a side note, there is a report that some people were arrested for transporting large amounts of the fragrant Teptaro wood from the forest.)

Though the financial benefits are clear for some, others seem to get locked into a cycle similar to that of the chronic gambler, devoting their small incomes to speculative purchases of Jatukam which may or may not pay off.

"I pity some low income people in my area. Some of them do not have enough rice to eat, but yet they keep buying Jatukam. They want to get rich, that's why they keep purchasing," said Tambon Administration Organisation (TAO) member Jaroon Mankong of Pak Phang Tawan-ook subdistrict.

He is afraid that the market will shrink in the future. "If they cannot sell whatever they have stocked, what will happen?" he asked.

Locals often have many sets of Jatukam on display in their homes, but they do not show them all. They hide them away, out of fear of being robbed. Some have their Jatukam stored in lockers at local banks.

Other locals, like Chareon Maharat of Chiang Yai district, approve of wearing Jatukam but are not interested in speculating on them. "I think it's good to have one, but not too many," he said.

He suggested that people should not buy the Jatukam that have already been released into the market.

"It is better for you to wait to order new models. They are cheaper than those already released," he said, adding that a good Jatukam talisman could be judged from the materials used, the sacred ritual performed and who performed it. He named some trusted persons and temples.

O-sod Suwansavek, who works at Nakhon Si Thammarat hospital, agreed that people should not collect too many Jatukam. He said it is important to consider the objectives in making the talisman.

"You know, it is quite hard for some temples to get their work done if they have to wait for the Katin (merit-making ceremony) and other donations. Producing Jatukam helps some temples achieve their goals in construction and other projects faster," said O-sod. He is aware that some temples don't get big sums of money after producing Jatukam.

A possible disadvantage to the whole Jatukam craze is that it seems to be taking the focus off of important issues. Government employees such as teachers and officials at provincial hall devote a great deal of their attention to Jatukam. Many schools, universities, as well as the Provincial Court, are producing Jatukam as part of their fund raising campaigns.

While this may be considered rather unorthodox by some, these state-associated Jatukam producers try to keep things in perspective. Said Walailak University Rector, Assoc Prof Dr Thai Tipsuwankul:"We don't commercialise Buddhism, we produce just enough for those who donate money to our campaigns to educate medical students and supply equipment for medical research. The university's committee suggested that we produce Jatukam as a token of appreciation to donors."

mightymike

26-07-2007, 05:36 PM

Hi all,

Sorry to disturb.. Wad does a Jatukam look like?

I'm wearing a long phor thuat... looks to me like a commercial produced metal piece that comes with a chain of its own.. But its given to me by a long phor from Thailand who was invited to Singapore to give blessings by my Gf's uncle and family. He also gave me a Pita which is not placed in a casing..

Around how much does it costs to actually case it up...
Any1 with prices from normal casing to gold casing?

Thanks in advannce.

gloves2ali

27-07-2007, 01:42 AM

hi, just got to know this thread haha.. i am singapore born thai.. my house got 4 face fuo..my dad kept in our hse olso afriad ppl steal.. but 4 faced fuo is supouse to put at out side hse de from wat i heard my dad say.. cos i dad super into this kind of thai amulet n stuff.. and usually my dad go templle in thailand they gave us amulet for FOC.. but of course we do donation to the temple.. i myself wearing 3 amulet.. dunno what name.. but i only know 1 "soon tek" :cheeky:

lizard

27-07-2007, 02:52 AM

Hi all,

Sorry to disturb.. Wad does a Jatukam look like?

I'm wearing a long phor thuat... looks to me like a commercial produced metal piece that comes with a chain of its own.. But its given to me by a long phor from Thailand who was invited to Singapore to give blessings by my Gf's uncle and family. He also gave me a Pita which is not placed in a casing..

Around how much does it costs to actually case it up...
Any1 with prices from normal casing to gold casing?

Thanks in advannce.

TIS are jatukam amulets. usually those amulets round in shape and look quite big 90% is an jtk amulet.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o28/Genephoto/DSC01564.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o28/Genephoto/DSC01566.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o28/Genephoto/DSC01558.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o28/Genephoto/DSC01562.jpg

There back of the amulets Ganasha. this just a sample to show how jtk amulet generally look like.

mightymike

27-07-2007, 10:39 AM

TIS are jatukam amulets. usually those amulets round in shape and look quite big 90% is an jtk amulet.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o28/Genephoto/DSC01564.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o28/Genephoto/DSC01566.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o28/Genephoto/DSC01558.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o28/Genephoto/DSC01562.jpg

There back of the amulets Ganasha. this just a sample to show how jtk amulet generally look like.

That's a Hindu God right?

any stories bout the origins? I'm interested to know.. as in the life stories or something like that..

mi5trooper

27-07-2007, 12:13 PM

i still would like to get a four face budda to play at my house front. (i know i stay hdb, :-)_)

anyway, i decided that i don't need a big budda. will be getting those small type "as big as a cup size only". i will get one when i visit thailand. i want to get it from a temple and be blessed by monks. so far been only offer my praying at goldenmill but i don't go there often liao. so, i want to look for alternative. is there a rule that must be outside door ?

i mean there is a space between 10 floor and 9 floor. i am thinking of putting it there becos of bigger space. hehe...

any comment?

aphr0dite

29-07-2007, 06:23 PM

hi guys,

i'd like to buy an amulet that would bring wealth n help me in my career, any recommendations? pls don't recommend me KMT! is jatukam good? does the thai temple @ simpang bedok sells all kinds of amulets?

juS^riDe

29-07-2007, 10:12 PM

i think the simpang bedok wan like nv sell(maybe)..cause tat time i went to bring my amulet to be bless den found out tat is fake wan..after tat the monk give me 1 amulet, den i give some hongbao money put in the donation box..=)

aphr0dite

29-07-2007, 10:21 PM

juS^riDe any idea if Wat Ananda Metyarama sells(rent) amulets? i wanna get one but i don't quite trust those from shops =(

safety first

29-07-2007, 11:04 PM

hi everyone>>
is there any guy praying kumanthong???

lizard

30-07-2007, 02:56 AM

hi guys,

i'd like to buy an amulet that would bring wealth n help me in my career, any recommendations? pls don't recommend me KMT! is jatukam good? does the thai temple @ simpang bedok sells all kinds of amulets?

i would reccomand lp pae amulets. affordable and good.

As for jtk i nvr wear b4 but heard many of my friends wear liao no bad. some still tio 4d but small small .

juS^riDe

30-07-2007, 08:20 AM

juS^riDe any idea if Wat Ananda Metyarama sells(rent) amulets? i wanna get one but i don't quite trust those from shops =(

haa...bro..i also a noob man...ask some old birds here..:cheeky:

aphr0dite

30-07-2007, 12:55 PM

hi lizard, mind telling me what are the amulets made by lp pae?

btw i'm a girl, any amulets that i'm not allowed to wear?

mi5trooper

30-07-2007, 05:50 PM

i think there is no diff between ger and boy. right? but some boy prefer xxx type of amulet and some ger perfer xx type of amulet only.

mightymike

31-07-2007, 07:45 AM

i think there is no diff between ger and boy. right? but some boy prefer xxx type of amulet and some ger perfer xx type of amulet only.

I heard before got amulets meant for females only de lei..
not really sure if its true...

mi5trooper

31-07-2007, 09:36 AM

true. let go search search. hehe...

lizard

31-07-2007, 05:26 PM

hi lizard, mind telling me what are the amulets made by lp pae?

btw i'm a girl, any amulets that i'm not allowed to wear?

Luang phor pae made alot of amulets his more well known one are the PAN series somdej.

U are free to wear what ever amulets that suit ur eyes. Usually only those barang amulets will have restrictions like cant let girls touch or wear.

DenverDino

31-07-2007, 05:36 PM

so actually 4 face budda must be place inside of the house or outside of the house?

U can pray inside if u dont have any garden inside your house.

Puffer

31-07-2007, 09:49 PM

i think there is no diff between ger and boy. right? but some boy prefer xxx type of amulet and some ger perfer xx type of amulet only.

There are different amulet for guys and gals.
Mostly smaller amulets are for gals.
And most important of all.
Do not just simply give others the amulets you have wore before.
Believe it or not.
I have seem more than enuf wat it does to good friends.

mi5trooper

31-07-2007, 11:33 PM

what do u mean? please do go further into detail leh. thanks.

There are different amulet for guys and gals.
Mostly smaller amulets are for gals.
And most important of all.
Do not just simply give others the amulets you have wore before.
Believe it or not.
I have seem more than enuf wat it does to good friends.

mightymike

01-08-2007, 08:55 AM

U are free to wear what ever amulets that suit ur eyes. Usually only those barang amulets will have restrictions like cant let girls touch or wear.

Wad do you mean by barang amulets?

aphr0dite

01-08-2007, 10:46 AM

hi bros,

thanks for the info =) hmmm where can i buy LP Pae's or JTK amulets from other than the one in bugis....

i've found this website that sells amulets (www.thaiamulets.net), bros pls have a look and tell me if they are real...he claims that $2 of the purchase goes to wat palelai and if the amulet is fake i can get my money back...

lizard

01-08-2007, 01:33 PM

hi bros,

thanks for the info =) hmmm where can i buy LP Pae's or JTK amulets from other than the one in bugis....

i've found this website that sells amulets (www.thaiamulets.net), bros pls have a look and tell me if they are real...he claims that $2 of the purchase goes to wat palelai and if the amulet is fake i can get my money back...

u can check out the price for the luang phor pae amulets u wan in the market first den u come find me and compare my price .

lizard

01-08-2007, 01:34 PM

Wad do you mean by barang amulets?

macam like amulets mix with dead ppl's bone, corpse oil all this.

aphr0dite

01-08-2007, 01:40 PM

u can check out the price for the luang phor pae amulets u wan in the market first den u come find me and compare my price .

liz, u sell amulets too? or thaiamulets.net belongs to u? i'm still lost, i'm not sure if i should get lp pae's or jatukam...planning to get one this sunday :cheeky:

anyway real amulets are handmade? and those with extremely font type thai words on the amulet are made by factories?

gloves2ali

02-08-2007, 12:48 AM

erm.. my mother is a thai.. and his elder brother told me.. dun any how go shop buy.. like u wan this amulet u buy this.. sum time it might not work on u.. he told me that sum time u wan blessing on amulet u must have FATE(YUAN FEN).. or u can go to thai temple as the monk know wat amulet suit u lor... like mi i go thai temple the first time i get a soon tek.. i wore it at secondary.. the frame crack.. my mum say its a sign that this amulet is prootecting u... then i quick go make a new frame lor.. then after that i found a big amulet its like a size of nokia n80.. at the sembawang beach.. my mum olso say its yuan fen.. so i kept in in my house 4 faced god alter... =) good luck =) so until now i am wearing a soon tek cos i believe i have fate with this amulet..

mi5trooper

02-08-2007, 09:27 AM

you have a 4 face god budda in your house? cool. is it install inside the house or outside? (hdb house, right?)

thanks.

erm.. my mother is a thai.. and his elder brother told me.. dun any how go shop buy.. like u wan this amulet u buy this.. sum time it might not work on u.. he told me that sum time u wan blessing on amulet u must have FATE(YUAN FEN).. or u can go to thai temple as the monk know wat amulet suit u lor... like mi i go thai temple the first time i get a soon tek.. i wore it at secondary.. the frame crack.. my mum say its a sign that this amulet is prootecting u... then i quick go make a new frame lor.. then after that i found a big amulet its like a size of nokia n80.. at the sembawang beach.. my mum olso say its yuan fen.. so i kept in in my house 4 faced god alter... =) good luck =) so until now i am wearing a soon tek cos i believe i have fate with this amulet..

Kushinagar

02-08-2007, 03:51 PM

For older amulet, it's quite easy for experience collector to know it's real or fake. Cause they should have seen enough. During their time, those amulets they saw are consider new to them.

But market is flooded with quite a number of really good artwork amulet.
Like Phra Somdej.....which are very ex......carelessness costs more.

About new amulets, to me, it's a today mould, today oven, tml market sold.
If at our time now, thai is capable of duplicating the old amulet to similarity of 99%.
So how do we judge? Like the Jetukam? How?
Issit abt sending back to the thai, pay them $50, get a cert with it?

Maybe we should ask Luang for his opinion.

Those popular amulet the demands for it is always there. Those in the market WILL deplete one day and when the supply stop, syndicate will come in with the fake ones. To get what u're looking for, it goes beyond plain research and understanding. Even experience collector will get cheated due to the technologies advancement of duplicating to near perfection. Gotta agreed that some reproduced are near to 99% especially for rian. However, there are still some that still could not be reproduced exactly due to the unknown, unspecified amount of ingredient used. The aging process, natural shrinkage, odixisation, etc made the differences. More importantly the syndicate do not dare to copy it exactly fearing the bad karma lashing upon them.

As for JTK, this is the current craze. Other are cashing in on this and producing like nobody business & also there are also various stories to it existence. To my understanding these are heaven god (Tian Shen) and there were reported good effect after wearing the 30 batch produced by khun pan.

About sending to Thai for competition to get a cert, what kind of competition are we talking about? The major event organised by the buddhist association or just any agenda-funded competition? How difficult is it to get a certificate than to get a authentic & geniune amulet?

From my pt of view, those popular amulet had reached a stage where it's not easily affordable to newcomer already. Take for example L.P Toh pitta, during my collecting time it's in the region of hundreds and now it's already by the thousands. :faint:

gloves2ali

02-08-2007, 04:03 PM

haha thanks mistrooper.. my dad use to be a thai monk in thailand ma.. CHU JIA for 1 mnths.. my mummy is born in thai.. abt the 4 faced god hor place in HDB outside not sure allowed anot haha but my dad scare ppl will steal it ma so keep inside house lor alter.. and 4 faced god SUSPOSE to put outside de..

gloves2ali

02-08-2007, 04:03 PM

sorry ar my english not very fluent.. lol:cheeky:

gloves2ali

02-08-2007, 04:19 PM

some pics of my family collection of amulet those in the metal casing is my dad's precious and my dad's 4 faced god alter.. the middle pic is my own one..

gloves2ali

02-08-2007, 04:24 PM

fake and real to my oponion hor.. as long as is the monk give u or the temple give u i guess its not fake de la..:cheeky: thats y until now my fren all wear amulet is buy from places like shop.. i NEVER go any shops one even change frame i'm very careful.. cos i heard ppl say they might change a FAKE one and keep the real one.. :giddy: haha

NOTE: guys out there go shop change frame.. ask them to change infront of you.. incase they keep urs and give fix a fake one for u. then u will be :cry:

Kushinagar

02-08-2007, 06:20 PM

fake and real to my oponion hor.. as long as is the monk give u or the temple give u i guess its not fake de la..:cheeky: thats y until now my fren all wear amulet is buy from places like shop.. i NEVER go any shops one even change frame i'm very careful.. cos i heard ppl say they might change a FAKE one and keep the real one.. :giddy: haha

NOTE: guys out there go shop change frame.. ask them to change infront of you.. incase they keep urs and give fix a fake one for u. then u will be :cry:

Hi gloves2ali, sorry we're not talking on the same level of understanding. Pardon me.

FAKE is fake no matter who gives it to u. It's worst if this gota be from respected figure like monk, bad karma.

As long as the amulet is properly consecrated, be it new or old, it will protect u. As long as it's fake, there are nothing!!!

gloves2ali

02-08-2007, 07:38 PM

:cheeky: i only just telling those guys who ask abt fake and real :cheeky: cos they say how to see the diff between fake and real ma.. we all not like hardcore collector cannot see by our own eyes whether its fake a real.. i still prefer take from temple.. to my own view i dun think thai temple will give u a fake one its my father's master personally pass it to my hand.. so i trust him..

mi5trooper

03-08-2007, 12:05 AM

ya lor. i also think should put outside. i want to visit thailand, buy a small small (about 6-8 inch tall) 4 face budda. then hor, put it outside my hdb house. with only 1 incen (joss stick) holder in the front.

I hope i don;t have to spend too much. it is just my "heart" (xin yi) to the 4 face budda.

haha thanks mistrooper.. my dad use to be a thai monk in thailand ma.. CHU JIA for 1 mnths.. my mummy is born in thai.. abt the 4 faced god hor place in HDB outside not sure allowed anot haha but my dad scare ppl will steal it ma so keep inside house lor alter.. and 4 faced god SUSPOSE to put outside de..

lizard

03-08-2007, 12:34 AM

liz, u sell amulets too? or thaiamulets.net belongs to u? i'm still lost, i'm not sure if i should get lp pae's or jatukam...planning to get one this sunday :cheeky:

anyway real amulets are handmade? and those with extremely font type thai words on the amulet are made by factories?

mai kanchong. if u free tml even or now call me 97907563 gene. i explain to u wat u wan know. but call after 8pm tml if u are not callling today.

bike4me

03-08-2007, 12:38 AM

Btw which thai temp u guys go??

gloves2ali

03-08-2007, 01:06 AM

i dunt think gonna spent much... my dad from cheng mai "QING" back at aeroplane all the way back to here.. haha its almost 15 years liao.. since i primary school alreai have ler..xiao xiao yi si for them bah not much one..

ya lor. i also think should put outside. i want to visit thailand, buy a small small (about 6-8 inch tall) 4 face budda. then hor, put it outside my hdb house. with only 1 incen (joss stick) holder in the front.

I hope i don;t have to spend too much. it is just my "heart" (xin yi) to the 4 face budda.

DenverDino

03-08-2007, 04:34 AM

sorry ar my english not very fluent.. lol:cheeky:

not to worry... no one is perfect lor. :angel:

cradle

03-08-2007, 09:45 AM

Those popular amulet the demands for it is always there. Those in the market WILL deplete one day and when the supply stop, syndicate will come in with the fake ones. To get what u're looking for, it goes beyond plain research and understanding. Even experience collector will get cheated due to the technologies advancement of duplicating to near perfection. Gotta agreed that some reproduced are near to 99% especially for rian. However, there are still some that still could not be reproduced exactly due to the unknown, unspecified amount of ingredient used. The aging process, natural shrinkage, odixisation, etc made the differences. More importantly the syndicate do not dare to copy it exactly fearing the bad karma lashing upon them.

As for JTK, this is the current craze. Other are cashing in on this and producing like nobody business & also there are also various stories to it existence. To my understanding these are heaven god (Tian Shen) and there were reported good effect after wearing the 30 batch produced by khun pan.

About sending to Thai for competition to get a cert, what kind of competition are we talking about? The major event organised by the buddhist association or just any agenda-funded competition? How difficult is it to get a certificate than to get a authentic & geniune amulet?

From my pt of view, those popular amulet had reached a stage where it's not easily affordable to newcomer already. Take for example L.P Toh pitta, during my collecting time it's in the region of hundreds and now it's already by the thousands. :faint:

Bro, ho sei bo:thumb:

When free la kopi:cheeky:

Kushinagar

03-08-2007, 09:12 PM

Bro, ho sei bo:thumb:

When free la kopi:cheeky:

ok quite busy, jio me when u free. :angel:

cradle

04-08-2007, 10:18 AM

ok quite busy, jio me when u free. :angel:

No pro....sure jio u when i free :thumb:

mightymike

04-08-2007, 10:27 AM

hey.. anyone knows the story of pita?

my mum told me he was a holigan that learnt to curb his temper after something happened and finally found enlightenment..

Thanks!

FireSpitter

04-08-2007, 01:34 PM

Anybody here got tips on how to paste "Kim Mok" on statues evenly and nicely?

DenverDino

04-08-2007, 04:37 PM

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