Spad31:BMulligan: Funny thing - I never much liked Bill Clinton. I thought he was the worst sort of opportunist, willing to sell out any principle in the service of his desire for power. Welfare "reform," the Clipper Chip, export restrictions on crypto, DADT - the list went on and on. Personally, I never voted for the man. I voted straight third-party any time Clinton was on the ballot. Couldn't stand the SOB. Thanks to the teabaggers and the "llbertarians" and the Fark independents, though, I find myself growing fonder of Bill Clinton every day. Congratulations, derpers - mission accomplished!

Oh, and here's a protip for some of you - if you're going to go throwing around the word "perjury," learn its legal definition first. Even if Clinton did lie under oath (that depends on what the definition of "lie" is), that alone is insufficient to make out a prima facie case of perjury.

Protip, since you're referring to me:

per·ju·ry[pur-juh-ree]noun, plural per·ju·ries. Law.The willful giving of false testimony under oath or affirmation, before a competent tribunal, upon a point material to a legal inquiry.

What's your farking question?

What does "lie" mean? Really?

Every child over 5 knows what "lie" means.

And "is".

*facepalm*

"Upon a point material to a legal inquiry." Questions regarding Clinton's relationship with Lewinsky were immaterial to the action in which he was being deposed. This is why I actually attended law school and practiced for a couple of decades, rather than just get a GED in law. Helps me avoid making a fool of myself sometimes.

BMulligan:Spad31: BMulligan: Funny thing - I never much liked Bill Clinton. I thought he was the worst sort of opportunist, willing to sell out any principle in the service of his desire for power. Welfare "reform," the Clipper Chip, export restrictions on crypto, DADT - the list went on and on. Personally, I never voted for the man. I voted straight third-party any time Clinton was on the ballot. Couldn't stand the SOB. Thanks to the teabaggers and the "llbertarians" and the Fark independents, though, I find myself growing fonder of Bill Clinton every day. Congratulations, derpers - mission accomplished!

Oh, and here's a protip for some of you - if you're going to go throwing around the word "perjury," learn its legal definition first. Even if Clinton did lie under oath (that depends on what the definition of "lie" is), that alone is insufficient to make out a prima facie case of perjury.

Protip, since you're referring to me:

per·ju·ry[pur-juh-ree]noun, plural per·ju·ries. Law.The willful giving of false testimony under oath or affirmation, before a competent tribunal, upon a point material to a legal inquiry.

What's your farking question?

What does "lie" mean? Really?

Every child over 5 knows what "lie" means.

And "is".

*facepalm*

"Upon a point material to a legal inquiry." Questions regarding Clinton's relationship with Lewinsky were immaterial to the action in which he was being deposed. This is why I actually attended law school and practiced for a couple of decades, rather than just get a GED in law. Helps me avoid making a fool of myself

Spad31:Let's not pretend his troubles weren't about "getting a hummer in the oval Office", but rather, committing perjury to a Grand Jury when testifying about it. A fact conveniently left out in discussions around here.

I suspect a goodly number of the folks on the left cut Clinton some slack on the lying due to the nature of how it occurred, a blatant fishing expedition by a hostile House looking for damning Whitewater evidence that wildly veered into asking questions about Clinton's personal life. I don't like that he lied about it either but at the same time that line of questioning never should have been asked in the first place. An impartial judge would never have allowed this to appear within their courtroom.

Special message to the 20-something with the pic showing he looks just as he posts:

You made some pathetic quip about you not wanting me to post in a Civil War thread or something(not bothering to re-check), is that because you assume I hold some odious position? As in, wishing the South won or something? Uh, no, child, no. I am glad the North won because slavery is wrong.

This is the problem with your generation: You read one damn thing you dislike, then it paints your entire perception of a person-right or wrong-then you attack them based on your fear and ignorance.

It makes as much sense as me hating you for disliking Reece's Pieces, then assuming you're a furry.

walktoanarcade:Special message to the 20-something with the pic showing he looks just as he posts:

You made some pathetic quip about you not wanting me to post in a Civil War thread or something(not bothering to re-check), is that because you assume I hold some odious position? As in, wishing the South won or something? Uh, no, child, no. I am glad the North won because slavery is wrong.

This is the problem with your generation: You read one damn thing you dislike, then it paints your entire perception of a person-right or wrong-then you attack them based on your fear and ignorance.

It makes as much sense as me hating you for disliking Reece's Pieces, then assuming you're a furry.

I wouldn't normally inject myself into an argument, but you are really being very dense

It is obvious he was making the point that he can comment on the Clinton era, even though he was very young or possibly not born yet, just as much as you can comment on the Civil War, even though you were not alive during that period (I'm assuming). He is saying you don't have authority just because you are old, not implying you are a racist, although it's interesting you took it there.

Spad31:Let's not pretend his troubles weren't about "getting a hummer in the oval Office", but rather, committing perjury to a Grand Jury when testifying about it. A fact conveniently left out in discussions around here.

Spad31:Really? Asking a sitting President about his conduct in the Oval Office is inappropriate? Of course it's not. Get your dick sucked somewhere other than the room that represents the seat of power. No one gives a shiat if a 50 year old guy can get a 20-ish year old intern to blow him. Good on him. Wrong place. What the fark kind of chowder head are you? There aren't "talking points", there are legitimate assessments of professional conduct. Hell, if I were President, and had a buffet of women, I'd be tempted too. Why the fark would you lie about it? If you can't own your actions, don't do them. *facepalm* Simple, really, he was a coward and an ass hole.

Are you a troll, or just dick focused? I don't care about his sex life but it sort of points out how silly it is to think monogamy is for everyone.

log_jammin:Spad31: Really? Asking a sitting President about his conduct in the Oval Office is inappropriate? Of course it's not. Get your dick sucked somewhere other than the room that represents the seat of power. No one gives a shiat if a 50 year old guy can get a 20-ish year old intern to blow him. Good on him. Wrong place. What the fark kind of chowder head are you? There aren't "talking points", there are legitimate assessments of professional conduct. Hell, if I were President, and had a buffet of women, I'd be tempted too. Why the fark would you lie about it? If you can't own your actions, don't do them. *facepalm* Simple, really, he was a coward and an ass hole.

so you think WHERE he got the BJ was the reason for the "investigation"???

wow.

How old are you?

I think where is a huge issue. Vice President Biden would whip it out on the White House lawn if he knows that's a safe zone.

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier:log_jammin: Spad31: Really? Asking a sitting President about his conduct in the Oval Office is inappropriate? Of course it's not. Get your dick sucked somewhere other than the room that represents the seat of power. No one gives a shiat if a 50 year old guy can get a 20-ish year old intern to blow him. Good on him. Wrong place. What the fark kind of chowder head are you? There aren't "talking points", there are legitimate assessments of professional conduct. Hell, if I were President, and had a buffet of women, I'd be tempted too. Why the fark would you lie about it? If you can't own your actions, don't do them. *facepalm* Simple, really, he was a coward and an ass hole.

so you think WHERE he got the BJ was the reason for the "investigation"???

wow.

How old are you?

I think where is a huge issue. Vice President Biden would whip it out on the White House lawn if he knows that's a safe zone.

/And I'd vote to give him a medal

Maybe Clinton was multi-tasking; getting a quick beej while working on a proposal for a piece of ass legislation he wanted.

Spad31:BMulligan: Spad31: BMulligan: Funny thing - I never much liked Bill Clinton. I thought he was the worst sort of opportunist, willing to sell out any principle in the service of his desire for power. Welfare "reform," the Clipper Chip, export restrictions on crypto, DADT - the list went on and on. Personally, I never voted for the man. I voted straight third-party any time Clinton was on the ballot. Couldn't stand the SOB. Thanks to the teabaggers and the "llbertarians" and the Fark independents, though, I find myself growing fonder of Bill Clinton every day. Congratulations, derpers - mission accomplished!

Oh, and here's a protip for some of you - if you're going to go throwing around the word "perjury," learn its legal definition first. Even if Clinton did lie under oath (that depends on what the definition of "lie" is), that alone is insufficient to make out a prima facie case of perjury.

Protip, since you're referring to me:

per·ju·ry[pur-juh-ree]noun, plural per·ju·ries. Law.The willful giving of false testimony under oath or affirmation, before a competent tribunal, upon a point material to a legal inquiry.

What's your farking question?

What does "lie" mean? Really?

Every child over 5 knows what "lie" means.

And "is".

*facepalm*

"Upon a point material to a legal inquiry." Questions regarding Clinton's relationship with Lewinsky were immaterial to the action in which he was being deposed. This is why I actually attended law school and practiced for a couple of decades, rather than just get a GED in law. Helps me avoid making a fool of myself

Yippy for you. He lied. Publicly. Period. Get to your point.

Yes, everyone agrees he lied. When are *you* gonna get a true morality that causes you to be as upset over Bush's lies? Until scumbag Republicans accept how truly filthy the Bush Administration was, YOU HAVE NO GODDAMN MORAL AUTHORITY OVER A GODDAMN THING IN THE GODDAMN UNIVERSE, EVER.

"What's your favorite Woody Allen movie? Before you answer, you should know: when I was seven years old, Woody Allen took me by the hand and led me into a dim, closet-like attic on the second floor of our house. He told me to lay on my stomach and play with my brother's electric train set. Then he sexually assaulted me. He talked to me while he did it, whispering that I was a good girl, that this was our secret, promising that we'd go to Paris and I'd be a star in his movies. I remember staring at that toy train, focusing on it as it traveled in its circle around the attic. To this day, I find it difficult to look at toy trains."

olderbudnoweiser:"What's your favorite Woody Allen movie? Before you answer, you should know: when I was seven years old, Woody Allen took me by the hand and led me into a dim, closet-like attic on the second floor of our house. He told me to lay on my stomach and play with my brother's electric train set. Then he sexually assaulted me. He talked to me while he did it, whispering that I was a good girl, that this was our secret, promising that we'd go to Paris and I'd be a star in his movies. I remember staring at that toy train, focusing on it as it traveled in its circle around the attic. To this day, I find it difficult to look at toy trains."

olderbudnoweiser:"What's your favorite Woody Allen movie? Before you answer, you should know: when I was seven years old, Woody Allen took me by the hand and led me into a dim, closet-like attic on the second floor of our house. He told me to lay on my stomach and play with my brother's electric train set. Then he sexually assaulted me. He talked to me while he did it, whispering that I was a good girl, that this was our secret, promising that we'd go to Paris and I'd be a star in his movies. I remember staring at that toy train, focusing on it as it traveled in its circle around the attic. To this day, I find it difficult to look at toy trains."

walktoanarcade:Fart_Machine: walktoanarcade: Fart_Machine: walktoanarcade: Do you honestly believe that Bill would stand by and not exercise some power and authority over which he no longer has a right?

He already has some power being an ex-President with a lot of pull within the Democratic Party. But yeah, let's focus on something that happened 16 years ago. That's a winner!

That's how you refer to the possibility of the Clinton's making a mockery of the 22 Amendment? Wow.

You would be all right with Laura Bush becoming president with "Dubya" inside the WH again, then, right? Right? ;)

Yup, because wimmen must do what their men-folk say!

/roll-eyes

You twist my being against anyone going against the 22nd amendment as misogyny? You're a card! ;)

Not much of a twist really. It's exactly what you said. Don't you have PUA site to go to?

Fart_Machine:walktoanarcade: Fart_Machine: walktoanarcade: Fart_Machine: walktoanarcade: Do you honestly believe that Bill would stand by and not exercise some power and authority over which he no longer has a right?

He already has some power being an ex-President with a lot of pull within the Democratic Party. But yeah, let's focus on something that happened 16 years ago. That's a winner!

That's how you refer to the possibility of the Clinton's making a mockery of the 22 Amendment? Wow.

You would be all right with Laura Bush becoming president with "Dubya" inside the WH again, then, right? Right? ;)

Yup, because wimmen must do what their men-folk say!

/roll-eyes

You twist my being against anyone going against the 22nd amendment as misogyny? You're a card! ;)

Not much of a twist really. It's exactly what you said. Don't you have PUA site to go to?

Spad31:Meh. He farked up by lying to our faces about it on television and in court. Great traits in a guy with his responsibility. No credibility whatsoever. If he'd simply said from the start "My marriage and private life are between my wife and I, mind your own business, I'm not discussing it any further." he'd have gained a little respect from me (not that he'd give a shiat what I thought, of course). Instead, he chose to assume we're all morons at the altar of worship and continuously insulted our intelligence. You wouldn't tolerate that shiat from your family or friends, why from the guy with the nukes? Becasue you're in the same political party? farking lame. Clinton and his wife are opportunistic ass holes.

walktoanarcade:Fart_Machine: walktoanarcade: Fart_Machine: walktoanarcade: Fart_Machine: walktoanarcade: Do you honestly believe that Bill would stand by and not exercise some power and authority over which he no longer has a right?

He already has some power being an ex-President with a lot of pull within the Democratic Party. But yeah, let's focus on something that happened 16 years ago. That's a winner!

That's how you refer to the possibility of the Clinton's making a mockery of the 22 Amendment? Wow.

You would be all right with Laura Bush becoming president with "Dubya" inside the WH again, then, right? Right? ;)

Yup, because wimmen must do what their men-folk say!

/roll-eyes

You twist my being against anyone going against the 22nd amendment as misogyny? You're a card! ;)

Not much of a twist really. It's exactly what you said. Don't you have PUA site to go to?

So you're an immature liar? Good to know! Thanks. :)

So you're a moron who believes women can't think for themselves. Good to know! Thanks. :)

walktoanarcade:You twist my being against anyone going against the 22nd amendment as misogyny? You're a card! ;)

How would electing Hillary Clinton (a competent person and coincidentally a completely separate person from her husband) go against the 22nd amendment? Can you cite the specific provision or is this going to be like your NAFTA "argument" that I had to be alive in the 1940s in order to "get" it?

walktoanarcade:Fart_Machine: walktoanarcade: Fart_Machine: walktoanarcade: Do you honestly believe that Bill would stand by and not exercise some power and authority over which he no longer has a right?

He already has some power being an ex-President with a lot of pull within the Democratic Party. But yeah, let's focus on something that happened 16 years ago. That's a winner!

That's how you refer to the possibility of the Clinton's making a mockery of the 22 Amendment? Wow.

You would be all right with Laura Bush becoming president with "Dubya" inside the WH again, then, right? Right? ;)

Yup, because wimmen must do what their men-folk say!

/roll-eyes

You twist my being against anyone going against the 22nd amendment as misogyny? You're a card! ;)

Please point out exactly how Hilary being president violates the 22nd amendment.

walktoanarcade:No, but I knew you'd assume that because, as I said, your generation hears or reads one thing they dislike, then they allow that to paint their perceptions of others and it's stupid and wrong.