Re: May Sniff in July: A Bouquet of Mysteries

DD, OV and other sniffers (Wolfie, are you playing?) -- I search the notes and keep getting Insolence. I haven't smelled it, but from the descriptions I doubt very seriously that this is it. Can any of you who knows Insolence confirm that B is not it?

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Originally Posted by darkdreams

I was wondering if maybe there is also violet leaf. It has a green feeling to it.

It does. When I search and see "floral green", I perk up. I wouldn't be too surprised if it is classified as a floral green or floral. Although sometimes F. puts a floral oriental on some fragrances I'd never thought of as orientals.

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Warum, I am sure I smelled Insolence at some point. I don't think B is it, although I am known to be mistaken. In the previous sniff I did not recognize Youth Dew although I used to own it.
I think Insolence is less elegant and not as subtle. Although I think I liked it.

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More interesting observations! I am jealous of the jazz and cocktails, though I'm leaving for a nice dinner with friends in an hour or so. I'll check back later, and also post the reveal for Sample A!

Edit: This has nothing to do with the Sniff, but I just applied some Atelier Vanille Insensée after my shower. Have any of you tried it? I find it swoon-worthy, and it has one of the best drydowns I've ever experienced! So glad to have a fairly generous decant.

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Warum, I am sure I smelled Insolence at some point. I don't think B is it.
I think Insolence is less elegant and not as subtle. Although I think I liked it.

That's what I think too, but I just did not smell it before, wanted to be sure. I don't smell any serious red berries either.

Originally Posted by Haunani

More interesting observations! I am jealous of the jazz and cocktails, though I'm leaving for a nice dinner with friends in an hour or so. I'll check back later, and also post the reveal for Sample A!

Edit: This has nothing to do with the Sniff, but I just applied some Atelier Vanille Insensée after my shower. Have any of you tried it? I find it swoon-worthy, and it has one of the best drydowns I've ever experienced! So glad to have a fairly generous decant.

Have a great dinner, Heidi!
I haven't tried Vanille Insensee yet, but your rec means that I will!

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Stylistically, B is not a Guerlain, it is more of Chanel type. I also thought of Calandre and Rive Gauche. Anyone getting any aldehydes at all? (green--> grey eyes in W's interpretation).

H., you will laugh all you want -- type in the revealed notes for B in the BN Directory with Advanced Search option. Getting Mariella Burani again? I am! In case you wanted to know -- B is not Mariella Burani, not the one with the four plastic orange roses as a cap.

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I'm glad you feel that way. It's pretty special! Now, can I interest you in a bottle of Carlos Santana? ;-)

Originally Posted by jujy54

...Heard Brasilian jazz and despite going out solo, ended up sitting with some pleasant people. Good scented night, all!

I'm glad you had a good time. I would love that! We enjoyed our dinner. Beautiful wild salmon from the Northwest, good wine, and Swedish Princess Cake for dessert. The stuff is covered in marzipan. Not low-cal at all, but worth the indulgence. :-)

Originally Posted by Twolf

Stylistically, B is not a Guerlain, it is more of Chanel type. I also thought of Calandre and Rive Gauche. Anyone getting any aldehydes at all? (green--> grey eyes in W's interpretation).

H., you will laugh all you want -- type in the revealed notes for B in the BN Directory with Advanced Search option. Getting Mariella Burani again? I am! In case you wanted to know -- B is not Mariella Burani, not the one with the four plastic orange roses as a cap.

Interesting observations, T! I have never tried Mariella Burani, but I also saw that search result and had a good laugh! Is that a good fragrance? I've never tried it!

See you all tomorrow. I will be gone in the morning, but should be home early to mid-afternoon.

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Stylistically, B is not a Guerlain, it is more of Chanel type. I also thought of Calandre and Rive Gauche. Anyone getting any aldehydes at all? (green--> grey eyes in W's interpretation).

H., you will laugh all you want -- type in the revealed notes for B in the BN Directory with Advanced Search option. Getting Mariella Burani again? I am! In case you wanted to know -- B is not Mariella Burani, not the one with the four plastic orange roses as a cap.

LOL, yes, I am getting Mariella Burani as well. And Insolence, which I think cannot be it. People talk about Insolence as quite a scream, and a loud scream this one is not. Plus, as DD mentioned, red berries are a large part of Insolence profile, and I don't smell it.

I won't say aldehydes for two reasons that may count and one that may not. The one that may not -- I don't smell them. But that doesn't mean anything since I do not smell them, for instance, in Eau Premierre either. But I know they're there. The other two that count -- 1) I don't connect B with any known aldehydic floral, including Rive Gauche (haven't smelled Calandre), and 2) because this sniff is 3*3*3 (I don't want to say more right now, but you will know what I mean when you reread the call).

The grey eyes were meant to describe the coldness of the heart after the herbal/citrusy top. I am one of those people who registers cold from iris and violet florals, with only a couple of notable exceptions. So I'd say I felt a similar cold from Iris Poudre, I smelled a similar live Iris from Bas de Soie (I think I mentioned that one) and had a similar cold/poison feel from Naiviris. We're not scent twins, Wolfie but that helps a lot in a Blind Sniff!

Originally Posted by Haunani

I'm glad you feel that way. It's pretty special! Now, can I interest you in a bottle of Carlos Santana? ;-)

LOL, LOL, LOL -- nope, so far I can weed by hand, thanks though!!

Originally Posted by Haunani

I'm glad you had a good time. I would love that! We enjoyed our dinner. Beautiful wild salmon from the Northwest, good wine, and Swedish Princess Cake for dessert. The stuff is covered in marzipan. Not low-cal at all, but worth the indulgence. :-)

Sounds delish! I would've had another piece of the Spring Chinook instead of a desert given a 1/2 a chance!

Originally Posted by darkdreams

Hello, ladies. Are you awake?

I am now, despite the fact that it seems like we don't have a Newport Bay on which we stand any more if one looks out of the window (fog). I will finish my coffee and spray B again. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think I need to ID a couple more top notes. Will try that in a min.

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Wow, I just smelled the drydown of B again.
Am I the only one who describes is as ambery and powdery (and pretty quiet, but definitive)?
I better go and respray it.

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Originally Posted by darkdreams

Hello, ladies. Are you awake?

Good morning! I'm going to be home all day. My shoulder hurts (old injury), so I'm skipping Sunday hula practice.

Originally Posted by Warum

I won't say aldehydes for two reasons that may count and one that may not. The one that may not -- I don't smell them. But that doesn't mean anything since I do not smell them, for instance, in Eau Premierre either. But I know they're there. The other two that count -- 1) I don't connect B with any known aldehydic floral, including Rive Gauche (haven't smelled Calandre), and 2) because this sniff is 3*3*3 (I don't want to say more right now, but you will know what I mean when you reread the call).

But do remember that labels can deceive, and overlap happens. You haven't smelled Calandre? I must send you a sample! It's a favorite of mine.

Originally Posted by Warum

The grey eyes were meant to describe the coldness of the heart after the herbal/citrusy top. I am one of those people who registers cold from iris and violet florals, with only a couple of notable exceptions. So I'd say I felt a similar cold from Iris Poudre, I smelled a similar live Iris from Bas de Soie (I think I mentioned that one) and had a similar cold/poison feel from Naiviris. We're not scent twins, Wolfie but that helps a lot in a Blind Sniff!

This is an interesting observation, and one to which I can relate! I have trouble with many iris-featuring fragrances because of that cold quality. Violets not as much.

Originally Posted by Warum

LOL, LOL, LOL -- nope, so far I can weed by hand, thanks though!!

Sigh, maybe I'll just go pour the rest of that bottle on the berry vines that keep popping up in our garden.

Originally Posted by Warum

I am now, despite the fact that it seems like we don't have a Newport Bay on which we stand any more if one looks out of the window (fog). I will finish my coffee and spray B again. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think I need to ID a couple more top notes. Will try that in a min.

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Good morning, Warum.
I am starting to suspect that B is not on Basenotes or F-site, with notes that is.
There is L'Instant Magique, but I don't think it can be that either. And there is Escada Loving Bouquet. Based on the notes and description, I cannot exclude this one. But the perfume looks pink, and B is clear.

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Originally Posted by darkdreams

I am starting to suspect that B is not on Basenotes or F-site, with notes that is.
There is L'Instant Magique, but I don't think it can be that either. And there is Escada Loving Bouquet. Based on the notes and description, I cannot exclude this one. But the perfume looks pink, and B is clear.

Yep, makes sense. Didn't H say that they are all on F and BN though? It is completely possible that B is listed on BN without notes. And it is completely possible that the notes H uses are not the same ones that are listed on the F. Makes it harder for us, I should say.

Same here re L'Instant Magique -- hard to believe that B can have honey listed. And same re Escada -- I am not familiar with the earlier fragrances of the brand, they may have been much more refined then they are these days, but still, it would be hard to believe Escada and yet I cannot exclude that one either.

Naj-Oleari is an Italian fashion house that became famous in the 70's and 80's. It is well known for its cheerful colors, fabrics and patterns, fashion accessories like hair ribbons, handbags and wallets. It was founded in 1916 by Riccardo Naj-Oleari.

This bottle was given to me as a gift. My take on it is that its target market was younger women on a budget. The bottle is rather pretty, isn't it?

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I resprayed. Still stand by lemon verbena/lemon balm, but since we've IDed lemon it can be lemon + green notes, for instance

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Yes, and now since H. revealed A, I can say outloud that two things this means are that B is NOT a floral aldehyde and that B is NOT Italian, there goes my Prada reference. H., please have mercy to correct me if I did not understand the 3*3*3 conditions correctly.

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I resprayed. Still stand by lemon verbena/lemon balm, but since we've IDed lemon it can be lemon + green notes, for instance

Don't be sad! Your reasoning is impeccable, W!

Originally Posted by Warum

Yes, and now since H. revealed A, I can say outloud that two things this means are that B is NOT a floral aldehyde and that B is NOT Italian, there goes my Prada reference. H., please have mercy to correct me if I did not understand the 3*3*3 conditions correctly.

True on both counts! However, I think aldhehydes are probably found in a lot of floral fragrances that aren't technically classified as "Floral Aldehydic."

Questions: What country do you think B is from? To whom do you think it's marketed?

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Argh what if I'm wrong?
I'll guess France or the US for the country.

As to who that's marketed for... if it was a niche, I'd say unisex, easy. Like Odin Petrana (a violet in the desert), for instance. But designers are marking fragrances unisex less often than the niche lines. However, it is still pretty femme to me. A niche line would have guts to market this one for men, a designer -- don't think so (although I have just found out that Dior Homme is supposed to be a lovely fragrance suited for women and men alike). But I keep getting men's fragrances from the list of notes. I refuse to answer this question! I am stumped! My senses tell me femme. When I start thinking, I think myself into a hole. I am going to stay neither here nor there and say unisex.

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Warum, you are doing all the great work by yourself. Well, Haunani is there, of course.
I agree that there is some green in this one. What was the answer to violet leaves?
How about the aldehydes? Musk?

I agree that this one smells very contemporary. Maybe even post 2000. I may over simplify things, but I would say it is for women.

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Alrighty, y'all. Our lovely wonderful brilliant evil host Haunani squeezed me dry. I said everything that I had to say about the fragrance, and now I am off for a hike with my husband. He will not forgive me if I skip it. So I am taking B for a hike and my experience tells me that wearing a perfume for a hike exacerbates the notes in it. So... as I am climbing up toward Alsea falls, I will be thinking of y'all, Sniff, and B. Will check in toward the evening. I hope there will be some action here by the time I get back online!