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Essex road death toll is still too high

THE number of people killed on Essex roads fell last year, but police say the number is still too high.

Figures dropped from 43 in 2012 to 41 last year as police and County Hall’s partnership approach to make Essex a safer place to travel continued.

Police said the majority of deaths and injuries were because of speeding, failing to wear a seatbelt and being under the influence of drink or drugs.

The 41 deaths were made up of 16 drivers, six passengers, five motorcyclists, 11 pedestrians and three cyclists.

A number of operations were carried out in 2013 to help keep the number down.

Chief Inspector Rachel Nolan said: “We are continuing to apply this joined-up approach to reducing road deaths and the signs are encouraging, especially if you look back at the figures a decade ago in Essex when we were dealing with 80 to 100 people dying in the county after being involved in a collision.

“The running of dedicated town-based operations to target careless driving, mobile telephone abuse, drink-driving, not wearing a seatbelt and driver tiredness is paying off through both enforcement and education.”

County councillor Rodney Bass, cabinet member for highways and transport, added: “No fatality is acceptable, and Essex County Council and its partners are committed to working hard to bring this figure down through a combination of education and enforcement.”

Comments

John T Pharro
5:10pm Fri 3 Jan 14

The "majority of deaths were because of speeding, failing to wear a seat belt and being under the influence of drink or drugs". One assumes the pedestrians and cyclist were exempt from the speeding or not weaing a seatbelt so either they were under the influence of drink or drugs or more likely caused by speeding drivers and/or under the influence of drink or drugs. High time the penalty for drivers causing death to innocent people carried a much higher penalty and a higher one still if under the influence of speeding, drink or drugs.

The "majority of deaths were because of speeding, failing to wear a seat belt and being under the influence of drink or drugs". One assumes the pedestrians and cyclist were exempt from the speeding or not weaing a seatbelt so either they were under the influence of drink or drugs or more likely caused by speeding drivers and/or under the influence of drink or drugs. High time the penalty for drivers causing death to innocent people carried a much higher penalty and a higher one still if under the influence of speeding, drink or drugs.John T Pharro

The "majority of deaths were because of speeding, failing to wear a seat belt and being under the influence of drink or drugs". One assumes the pedestrians and cyclist were exempt from the speeding or not weaing a seatbelt so either they were under the influence of drink or drugs or more likely caused by speeding drivers and/or under the influence of drink or drugs. High time the penalty for drivers causing death to innocent people carried a much higher penalty and a higher one still if under the influence of speeding, drink or drugs.

Score: 6

Reckless_young_driver
6:23pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Meanwhile, tobacco related deaths are killing thousands of people a year. 41 people is nothing. Okay, 41 families are devastated, but accidents happen. The police checks that they reguarly do is just a massive waste of police time. I've been stopped for speeding about 5 times, only once did I get 3 points. The other 4 I was let off. It don't bother me though I just carry on speeding as soon as I get let go.

Meanwhile, tobacco related deaths are killing thousands of people a year. 41 people is nothing. Okay, 41 families are devastated, but accidents happen. The police checks that they reguarly do is just a massive waste of police time. I've been stopped for speeding about 5 times, only once did I get 3 points. The other 4 I was let off. It don't bother me though I just carry on speeding as soon as I get let go.Reckless_young_driver

Meanwhile, tobacco related deaths are killing thousands of people a year. 41 people is nothing. Okay, 41 families are devastated, but accidents happen. The police checks that they reguarly do is just a massive waste of police time. I've been stopped for speeding about 5 times, only once did I get 3 points. The other 4 I was let off. It don't bother me though I just carry on speeding as soon as I get let go.

Score: -9

Caroline S
6:33pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Reckless_young_drive
r, it's very easy to be glib about 'accidents happening' when you haven't thought through the possible consequences of your actions.
Rural Essex roads are not made for speed and idiots who don't realise this scare the living daylights out of me. Driving near South Woodham Ferrers the other night in the rain somebody decided to overtake a line of moving traffic which meant they were on the wrong side of the road heading towards me at God only knows what speed. Luckily I saw them first and pulled in otherwise my kids could have lost their parents and a brother. I don't suppose that would bother you though, just another statistic.
Oh, another thing. Seatbelts work. Thanks to a blown tyre my last car crashed into a tree at 70mph on the motorway but all 5 of us walked away with just one scratch as we were all wearing them.
Reckless_young_drive
r, I really hope that you rethink your driving strategies as it would be tragic if you never grew up to be a Careful_older_driver
.

Reckless_young_drive
r, it's very easy to be glib about 'accidents happening' when you haven't thought through the possible consequences of your actions.
Rural Essex roads are not made for speed and idiots who don't realise this scare the living daylights out of me. Driving near South Woodham Ferrers the other night in the rain somebody decided to overtake a line of moving traffic which meant they were on the wrong side of the road heading towards me at God only knows what speed. Luckily I saw them first and pulled in otherwise my kids could have lost their parents and a brother. I don't suppose that would bother you though, just another statistic.
Oh, another thing. Seatbelts work. Thanks to a blown tyre my last car crashed into a tree at 70mph on the motorway but all 5 of us walked away with just one scratch as we were all wearing them.
Reckless_young_drive
r, I really hope that you rethink your driving strategies as it would be tragic if you never grew up to be a Careful_older_driver
.Caroline S

Reckless_young_drive
r, it's very easy to be glib about 'accidents happening' when you haven't thought through the possible consequences of your actions.
Rural Essex roads are not made for speed and idiots who don't realise this scare the living daylights out of me. Driving near South Woodham Ferrers the other night in the rain somebody decided to overtake a line of moving traffic which meant they were on the wrong side of the road heading towards me at God only knows what speed. Luckily I saw them first and pulled in otherwise my kids could have lost their parents and a brother. I don't suppose that would bother you though, just another statistic.
Oh, another thing. Seatbelts work. Thanks to a blown tyre my last car crashed into a tree at 70mph on the motorway but all 5 of us walked away with just one scratch as we were all wearing them.
Reckless_young_drive
r, I really hope that you rethink your driving strategies as it would be tragic if you never grew up to be a Careful_older_driver
.

Score: 6

e5mitch
8:10pm Fri 3 Jan 14

'Police said the majority of deaths and injuries were because of speeding, failing to wear a seatbelt and being under the influence of drink or drugs'.

That's just not true....according to ROSPA-
20% Failed to Judge Other Person's Path/Speed
33% Loss of Control.
40% Failed to Look Properly.

But as long as 'speeding' is used for revenue raiding & public distraction from the real causes, the numbers will stay high.

'Police said the majority of deaths and injuries were because of speeding, failing to wear a seatbelt and being under the influence of drink or drugs'.
That's just not true....according to ROSPA-
20% Failed to Judge Other Person's Path/Speed
33% Loss of Control.
40% Failed to Look Properly.
But as long as 'speeding' is used for revenue raiding & public distraction from the real causes, the numbers will stay high.e5mitch

'Police said the majority of deaths and injuries were because of speeding, failing to wear a seatbelt and being under the influence of drink or drugs'.

That's just not true....according to ROSPA-
20% Failed to Judge Other Person's Path/Speed
33% Loss of Control.
40% Failed to Look Properly.

But as long as 'speeding' is used for revenue raiding & public distraction from the real causes, the numbers will stay high.

Score: -3

Reckless_young_driver
8:32pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Caroline S wrote…

Reckless_young_drive

r, it's very easy to be glib about 'accidents happening' when you haven't thought through the possible consequences of your actions.
Rural Essex roads are not made for speed and idiots who don't realise this scare the living daylights out of me. Driving near South Woodham Ferrers the other night in the rain somebody decided to overtake a line of moving traffic which meant they were on the wrong side of the road heading towards me at God only knows what speed. Luckily I saw them first and pulled in otherwise my kids could have lost their parents and a brother. I don't suppose that would bother you though, just another statistic.
Oh, another thing. Seatbelts work. Thanks to a blown tyre my last car crashed into a tree at 70mph on the motorway but all 5 of us walked away with just one scratch as we were all wearing them.
Reckless_young_drive

r, I really hope that you rethink your driving strategies as it would be tragic if you never grew up to be a Careful_older_driver

.

If you survived smashing into a tree at 70mph on a motorway, your be able to survive a crash in South Woodham Ferrers.

[quote][p][bold]Caroline S[/bold] wrote:
Reckless_young_drive
r, it's very easy to be glib about 'accidents happening' when you haven't thought through the possible consequences of your actions.
Rural Essex roads are not made for speed and idiots who don't realise this scare the living daylights out of me. Driving near South Woodham Ferrers the other night in the rain somebody decided to overtake a line of moving traffic which meant they were on the wrong side of the road heading towards me at God only knows what speed. Luckily I saw them first and pulled in otherwise my kids could have lost their parents and a brother. I don't suppose that would bother you though, just another statistic.
Oh, another thing. Seatbelts work. Thanks to a blown tyre my last car crashed into a tree at 70mph on the motorway but all 5 of us walked away with just one scratch as we were all wearing them.
Reckless_young_drive
r, I really hope that you rethink your driving strategies as it would be tragic if you never grew up to be a Careful_older_driver
.[/p][/quote]If you survived smashing into a tree at 70mph on a motorway, your be able to survive a crash in South Woodham Ferrers.Reckless_young_driver

Caroline S wrote…

Reckless_young_drive

r, it's very easy to be glib about 'accidents happening' when you haven't thought through the possible consequences of your actions.
Rural Essex roads are not made for speed and idiots who don't realise this scare the living daylights out of me. Driving near South Woodham Ferrers the other night in the rain somebody decided to overtake a line of moving traffic which meant they were on the wrong side of the road heading towards me at God only knows what speed. Luckily I saw them first and pulled in otherwise my kids could have lost their parents and a brother. I don't suppose that would bother you though, just another statistic.
Oh, another thing. Seatbelts work. Thanks to a blown tyre my last car crashed into a tree at 70mph on the motorway but all 5 of us walked away with just one scratch as we were all wearing them.
Reckless_young_drive

r, I really hope that you rethink your driving strategies as it would be tragic if you never grew up to be a Careful_older_driver

.

If you survived smashing into a tree at 70mph on a motorway, your be able to survive a crash in South Woodham Ferrers.

Score: -10

Nebs
9:47pm Fri 3 Jan 14

If deaths dropped from 43 to 41, and police say the number is still too high, what number do the police deem acceptable?

If deaths dropped from 43 to 41, and police say the number is still too high, what number do the police deem acceptable?Nebs

If deaths dropped from 43 to 41, and police say the number is still too high, what number do the police deem acceptable?

Score: 0

Jack222
10:03pm Fri 3 Jan 14

The heading is pathetic ; get a grip whoever wrote it.

But road deaths will happen ; that's life.,..

The heading is pathetic ; get a grip whoever wrote it.
But road deaths will happen ; that's life.,..Jack222

The heading is pathetic ; get a grip whoever wrote it.

But road deaths will happen ; that's life.,..

Score: -2

Kim Gandy
1:15am Sat 4 Jan 14

Reckless_young_drive
r wrote…

Meanwhile, tobacco related deaths are killing thousands of people a year. 41 people is nothing. Okay, 41 families are devastated, but accidents happen. The police checks that they reguarly do is just a massive waste of police time. I've been stopped for speeding about 5 times, only once did I get 3 points. The other 4 I was let off. It don't bother me though I just carry on speeding as soon as I get let go.

You are an idiot.

And one day, Karma will pay you a visit.

[quote][p][bold]Reckless_young_drive
r[/bold] wrote:
Meanwhile, tobacco related deaths are killing thousands of people a year. 41 people is nothing. Okay, 41 families are devastated, but accidents happen. The police checks that they reguarly do is just a massive waste of police time. I've been stopped for speeding about 5 times, only once did I get 3 points. The other 4 I was let off. It don't bother me though I just carry on speeding as soon as I get let go.[/p][/quote]You are an idiot.
And one day, Karma will pay you a visit.Kim Gandy

Reckless_young_drive
r wrote…

Meanwhile, tobacco related deaths are killing thousands of people a year. 41 people is nothing. Okay, 41 families are devastated, but accidents happen. The police checks that they reguarly do is just a massive waste of police time. I've been stopped for speeding about 5 times, only once did I get 3 points. The other 4 I was let off. It don't bother me though I just carry on speeding as soon as I get let go.

You are an idiot.

And one day, Karma will pay you a visit.

Score: 6

Kim Gandy
1:18am Sat 4 Jan 14

I see the usual gang dispensing the usual ridiculous comments. Has the Echo website become a competition for the most idiotic comment,

Personally I think switching off the streetlights will make it worse.. for pedestrians in particular who cannot be seen until the last minute,

Also bike riders - the number of times I see these people riding bikes at night with no proper reflective gear or lights on.

Then there's the increasing possibility of traveller horses in the road... there was a whole spate of them last year.

The risks seem to increase but this will be the case for as long as we have the loony left in charge.. They are behind everything that is wrong with this country.

I see the usual gang dispensing the usual ridiculous comments. Has the Echo website become a competition for the most idiotic comment,
Personally I think switching off the streetlights will make it worse.. for pedestrians in particular who cannot be seen until the last minute,
Also bike riders - the number of times I see these people riding bikes at night with no proper reflective gear or lights on.
Then there's the increasing possibility of traveller horses in the road... there was a whole spate of them last year.
The risks seem to increase but this will be the case for as long as we have the loony left in charge.. They are behind everything that is wrong with this country.Kim Gandy

I see the usual gang dispensing the usual ridiculous comments. Has the Echo website become a competition for the most idiotic comment,

Personally I think switching off the streetlights will make it worse.. for pedestrians in particular who cannot be seen until the last minute,

Also bike riders - the number of times I see these people riding bikes at night with no proper reflective gear or lights on.

Then there's the increasing possibility of traveller horses in the road... there was a whole spate of them last year.

The risks seem to increase but this will be the case for as long as we have the loony left in charge.. They are behind everything that is wrong with this country.

Score: -1

Kim Gandy
1:21am Sat 4 Jan 14

....and they are the reason there are so many idiots around. With such a lackadaisical attitude to stupidity, idiots can ply their trade easily and without fear of recrimination.

Especially when they confess to doing stupid dangerous stuff that endangers the lives of others and seemingly get away with it.

Well, it won't be like that forever because things are changing....

....and they are the reason there are so many idiots around. With such a lackadaisical attitude to stupidity, idiots can ply their trade easily and without fear of recrimination.
Especially when they confess to doing stupid dangerous stuff that endangers the lives of others and seemingly get away with it.
Well, it won't be like that forever because things are changing....Kim Gandy

....and they are the reason there are so many idiots around. With such a lackadaisical attitude to stupidity, idiots can ply their trade easily and without fear of recrimination.

Especially when they confess to doing stupid dangerous stuff that endangers the lives of others and seemingly get away with it.

Well, it won't be like that forever because things are changing....

Score: 1

TheBrotherhoodOfTheBell
9:05am Sat 4 Jan 14

Nebs wrote…

If deaths dropped from 43 to 41, and police say the number is still too high, what number do the police deem acceptable?

Essex Police are not bothered how many people get killed on our roads its all about the stats.
They are worried that the inspectorate of constabulary will get a pull from whitehall if they are not doing their bit in looking good.
The system and the Police especially do B***ER all in protecting the people that pay for the service.
They don't come out and record crime anymore unless there is fool proof evidence.
They wont arrest for questioning or caution anyone now unless its cast iron concrete.
If they were concerned about Deaths any type of death, people would be nicked left right and centre for the deaths at Colchester hospital, which they are currently investigating...(Or having a cup of tea patting nursing staff on the B***OMS).
Look lets get real here they dont give a F**K about the likes of you and I or the masses.
This is just another excuse to nick everyone for all and sundry to glean more fines to run their shambles of an outfit, to go on paying their extornitate salaries and pensions...we pay over £300,000 grand a year for that laughable double act Kavanagh & Alston...A man of such a pedigree background Alston has turned into a farcical laughing stock since he took over his Commissioner Gordon Role...What we need here is F*****G some delboy dressed up as Batman then we will have the whole package of blithering idiots.
The only thing that is bothering them in the words of Dirty Harry (Clint Eastwood) is cleaning the god dam mess up afterwards.
They dont care how many suffer and snuff it on the roads...some do a small minority that go in the job with a conscience..the majority don't they become oblivious and hardened to it, the majority are so thick skinned that there is no need for body armour with some of them....Their argument is they have to be to get by the daily grind and toil....My argument is that most of them don't give a S**T because they should not have been selected to get in the job in the first place...
This is all showboating and pandering from the press office to the media thick'os .
We are so gullible we eat this daily S**T and think oh lovely they are trying to do us a favour?
They look after their own on our money, if they really cared you would not hear half the stories you read in this on line chip paper....
The service now costs over a £Billion a year to run most of that is swallowed up in supporting the pension scheme.
The government was to chop their money in cuts, because they have been over fattened during the blair and brown nose years...
Tough t***y old peelers..
Please cut out all this B**LSH*T and get on with the work...
Kavanagh & Alston I think your days are numbered old chums?

[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote:
If deaths dropped from 43 to 41, and police say the number is still too high, what number do the police deem acceptable?[/p][/quote]Essex Police are not bothered how many people get killed on our roads its all about the stats.
They are worried that the inspectorate of constabulary will get a pull from whitehall if they are not doing their bit in looking good.
The system and the Police especially do B***ER all in protecting the people that pay for the service.
They don't come out and record crime anymore unless there is fool proof evidence.
They wont arrest for questioning or caution anyone now unless its cast iron concrete.
If they were concerned about Deaths any type of death, people would be nicked left right and centre for the deaths at Colchester hospital, which they are currently investigating...(Or having a cup of tea patting nursing staff on the B***OMS).
Look lets get real here they dont give a F**K about the likes of you and I or the masses.
This is just another excuse to nick everyone for all and sundry to glean more fines to run their shambles of an outfit, to go on paying their extornitate salaries and pensions...we pay over £300,000 grand a year for that laughable double act Kavanagh & Alston...A man of such a pedigree background Alston has turned into a farcical laughing stock since he took over his Commissioner Gordon Role...What we need here is F*****G some delboy dressed up as Batman then we will have the whole package of blithering idiots.
The only thing that is bothering them in the words of Dirty Harry (Clint Eastwood) is cleaning the god dam mess up afterwards.
They dont care how many suffer and snuff it on the roads...some do a small minority that go in the job with a conscience..the majority don't they become oblivious and hardened to it, the majority are so thick skinned that there is no need for body armour with some of them....Their argument is they have to be to get by the daily grind and toil....My argument is that most of them don't give a S**T because they should not have been selected to get in the job in the first place...
This is all showboating and pandering from the press office to the media thick'os .
We are so gullible we eat this daily S**T and think oh lovely they are trying to do us a favour?
They look after their own on our money, if they really cared you would not hear half the stories you read in this on line chip paper....
The service now costs over a £Billion a year to run most of that is swallowed up in supporting the pension scheme.
The government was to chop their money in cuts, because they have been over fattened during the blair and brown nose years...
Tough t***y old peelers..
Please cut out all this B**LSH*T and get on with the work...
Kavanagh & Alston I think your days are numbered old chums?TheBrotherhoodOfTheBell

Nebs wrote…

If deaths dropped from 43 to 41, and police say the number is still too high, what number do the police deem acceptable?

Essex Police are not bothered how many people get killed on our roads its all about the stats.
They are worried that the inspectorate of constabulary will get a pull from whitehall if they are not doing their bit in looking good.
The system and the Police especially do B***ER all in protecting the people that pay for the service.
They don't come out and record crime anymore unless there is fool proof evidence.
They wont arrest for questioning or caution anyone now unless its cast iron concrete.
If they were concerned about Deaths any type of death, people would be nicked left right and centre for the deaths at Colchester hospital, which they are currently investigating...(Or having a cup of tea patting nursing staff on the B***OMS).
Look lets get real here they dont give a F**K about the likes of you and I or the masses.
This is just another excuse to nick everyone for all and sundry to glean more fines to run their shambles of an outfit, to go on paying their extornitate salaries and pensions...we pay over £300,000 grand a year for that laughable double act Kavanagh & Alston...A man of such a pedigree background Alston has turned into a farcical laughing stock since he took over his Commissioner Gordon Role...What we need here is F*****G some delboy dressed up as Batman then we will have the whole package of blithering idiots.
The only thing that is bothering them in the words of Dirty Harry (Clint Eastwood) is cleaning the god dam mess up afterwards.
They dont care how many suffer and snuff it on the roads...some do a small minority that go in the job with a conscience..the majority don't they become oblivious and hardened to it, the majority are so thick skinned that there is no need for body armour with some of them....Their argument is they have to be to get by the daily grind and toil....My argument is that most of them don't give a S**T because they should not have been selected to get in the job in the first place...
This is all showboating and pandering from the press office to the media thick'os .
We are so gullible we eat this daily S**T and think oh lovely they are trying to do us a favour?
They look after their own on our money, if they really cared you would not hear half the stories you read in this on line chip paper....
The service now costs over a £Billion a year to run most of that is swallowed up in supporting the pension scheme.
The government was to chop their money in cuts, because they have been over fattened during the blair and brown nose years...
Tough t***y old peelers..
Please cut out all this B**LSH*T and get on with the work...
Kavanagh & Alston I think your days are numbered old chums?

Score: -2

TheBrotherhoodOfTheBell
9:07am Sat 4 Jan 14

Caroline S wrote…

Reckless_young_drive

r, it's very easy to be glib about 'accidents happening' when you haven't thought through the possible consequences of your actions.
Rural Essex roads are not made for speed and idiots who don't realise this scare the living daylights out of me. Driving near South Woodham Ferrers the other night in the rain somebody decided to overtake a line of moving traffic which meant they were on the wrong side of the road heading towards me at God only knows what speed. Luckily I saw them first and pulled in otherwise my kids could have lost their parents and a brother. I don't suppose that would bother you though, just another statistic.
Oh, another thing. Seatbelts work. Thanks to a blown tyre my last car crashed into a tree at 70mph on the motorway but all 5 of us walked away with just one scratch as we were all wearing them.
Reckless_young_drive

r, I really hope that you rethink your driving strategies as it would be tragic if you never grew up to be a Careful_older_driver

.

70 MPH .....

5 OF YOU IN THE CAR.....

COUNTRY ROAD AT NIGHT...

REALLY....

THE ARTICLE APPLIES TO ID**ts LIKE YOU....

[quote][p][bold]Caroline S[/bold] wrote:
Reckless_young_drive
r, it's very easy to be glib about 'accidents happening' when you haven't thought through the possible consequences of your actions.
Rural Essex roads are not made for speed and idiots who don't realise this scare the living daylights out of me. Driving near South Woodham Ferrers the other night in the rain somebody decided to overtake a line of moving traffic which meant they were on the wrong side of the road heading towards me at God only knows what speed. Luckily I saw them first and pulled in otherwise my kids could have lost their parents and a brother. I don't suppose that would bother you though, just another statistic.
Oh, another thing. Seatbelts work. Thanks to a blown tyre my last car crashed into a tree at 70mph on the motorway but all 5 of us walked away with just one scratch as we were all wearing them.
Reckless_young_drive
r, I really hope that you rethink your driving strategies as it would be tragic if you never grew up to be a Careful_older_driver
.[/p][/quote]70 MPH .....
5 OF YOU IN THE CAR.....
COUNTRY ROAD AT NIGHT...
REALLY....
THE ARTICLE APPLIES TO ID**ts LIKE YOU....TheBrotherhoodOfTheBell

Caroline S wrote…

Reckless_young_drive

r, it's very easy to be glib about 'accidents happening' when you haven't thought through the possible consequences of your actions.
Rural Essex roads are not made for speed and idiots who don't realise this scare the living daylights out of me. Driving near South Woodham Ferrers the other night in the rain somebody decided to overtake a line of moving traffic which meant they were on the wrong side of the road heading towards me at God only knows what speed. Luckily I saw them first and pulled in otherwise my kids could have lost their parents and a brother. I don't suppose that would bother you though, just another statistic.
Oh, another thing. Seatbelts work. Thanks to a blown tyre my last car crashed into a tree at 70mph on the motorway but all 5 of us walked away with just one scratch as we were all wearing them.
Reckless_young_drive

r, I really hope that you rethink your driving strategies as it would be tragic if you never grew up to be a Careful_older_driver

.

70 MPH .....

5 OF YOU IN THE CAR.....

COUNTRY ROAD AT NIGHT...

REALLY....

THE ARTICLE APPLIES TO ID**ts LIKE YOU....

Score: -4

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Score: 0

Caroline S
7:12pm Sat 4 Jan 14

TheBrotherhoodOfTheB
ell
Just to clarify, I wasn't on a country road, it was the M25 in good visibility and light traffic. I wouldn't say it was idiotic driving (I wasn't the driver) quite the opposite as the driver managed to reach the hard shoulder rather than the central reservation which would undoubtedly have caused a much worse incident.
I agree with you, if it was a country road at night only an idiot would attempt to drive at 70 (like the person overtaking near SWF).

TheBrotherhoodOfTheB
ell
Just to clarify, I wasn't on a country road, it was the M25 in good visibility and light traffic. I wouldn't say it was idiotic driving (I wasn't the driver) quite the opposite as the driver managed to reach the hard shoulder rather than the central reservation which would undoubtedly have caused a much worse incident.
I agree with you, if it was a country road at night only an idiot would attempt to drive at 70 (like the person overtaking near SWF).Caroline S

TheBrotherhoodOfTheB
ell
Just to clarify, I wasn't on a country road, it was the M25 in good visibility and light traffic. I wouldn't say it was idiotic driving (I wasn't the driver) quite the opposite as the driver managed to reach the hard shoulder rather than the central reservation which would undoubtedly have caused a much worse incident.
I agree with you, if it was a country road at night only an idiot would attempt to drive at 70 (like the person overtaking near SWF).

Score: 1

John T Pharro
7:31pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Caroline S wrote…

Reckless_young_drive

r, it's very easy to be glib about 'accidents happening' when you haven't thought through the possible consequences of your actions.
Rural Essex roads are not made for speed and idiots who don't realise this scare the living daylights out of me. Driving near South Woodham Ferrers the other night in the rain somebody decided to overtake a line of moving traffic which meant they were on the wrong side of the road heading towards me at God only knows what speed. Luckily I saw them first and pulled in otherwise my kids could have lost their parents and a brother. I don't suppose that would bother you though, just another statistic.
Oh, another thing. Seatbelts work. Thanks to a blown tyre my last car crashed into a tree at 70mph on the motorway but all 5 of us walked away with just one scratch as we were all wearing them.
Reckless_young_drive

r, I really hope that you rethink your driving strategies as it would be tragic if you never grew up to be a Careful_older_driver

.

How the hell did you "smash into a tree on a motorway"? Most trees are way off the motorways and if not there are crash barriers. You are very correct to emphasis the wearing of seat belts. Did you hit the tree doing 70mph, in which case you must have been travelling over that in the first place.

[quote][p][bold]Caroline S[/bold] wrote:
Reckless_young_drive
r, it's very easy to be glib about 'accidents happening' when you haven't thought through the possible consequences of your actions.
Rural Essex roads are not made for speed and idiots who don't realise this scare the living daylights out of me. Driving near South Woodham Ferrers the other night in the rain somebody decided to overtake a line of moving traffic which meant they were on the wrong side of the road heading towards me at God only knows what speed. Luckily I saw them first and pulled in otherwise my kids could have lost their parents and a brother. I don't suppose that would bother you though, just another statistic.
Oh, another thing. Seatbelts work. Thanks to a blown tyre my last car crashed into a tree at 70mph on the motorway but all 5 of us walked away with just one scratch as we were all wearing them.
Reckless_young_drive
r, I really hope that you rethink your driving strategies as it would be tragic if you never grew up to be a Careful_older_driver
.[/p][/quote]How the hell did you "smash into a tree on a motorway"? Most trees are way off the motorways and if not there are crash barriers. You are very correct to emphasis the wearing of seat belts. Did you hit the tree doing 70mph, in which case you must have been travelling over that in the first place.John T Pharro

Caroline S wrote…

Reckless_young_drive

r, it's very easy to be glib about 'accidents happening' when you haven't thought through the possible consequences of your actions.
Rural Essex roads are not made for speed and idiots who don't realise this scare the living daylights out of me. Driving near South Woodham Ferrers the other night in the rain somebody decided to overtake a line of moving traffic which meant they were on the wrong side of the road heading towards me at God only knows what speed. Luckily I saw them first and pulled in otherwise my kids could have lost their parents and a brother. I don't suppose that would bother you though, just another statistic.
Oh, another thing. Seatbelts work. Thanks to a blown tyre my last car crashed into a tree at 70mph on the motorway but all 5 of us walked away with just one scratch as we were all wearing them.
Reckless_young_drive

r, I really hope that you rethink your driving strategies as it would be tragic if you never grew up to be a Careful_older_driver

.

How the hell did you "smash into a tree on a motorway"? Most trees are way off the motorways and if not there are crash barriers. You are very correct to emphasis the wearing of seat belts. Did you hit the tree doing 70mph, in which case you must have been travelling over that in the first place.

Score: 2

Nowthatsworthknowing
7:41am Sun 5 Jan 14

TheBrotherhoodOfTheB
ell wrote…

Nebs wrote…

If deaths dropped from 43 to 41, and police say the number is still too high, what number do the police deem acceptable?

Essex Police are not bothered how many people get killed on our roads its all about the stats.
They are worried that the inspectorate of constabulary will get a pull from whitehall if they are not doing their bit in looking good.
The system and the Police especially do B***ER all in protecting the people that pay for the service.
They don't come out and record crime anymore unless there is fool proof evidence.
They wont arrest for questioning or caution anyone now unless its cast iron concrete.
If they were concerned about Deaths any type of death, people would be nicked left right and centre for the deaths at Colchester hospital, which they are currently investigating...(Or having a cup of tea patting nursing staff on the B***OMS).
Look lets get real here they dont give a F**K about the likes of you and I or the masses.
This is just another excuse to nick everyone for all and sundry to glean more fines to run their shambles of an outfit, to go on paying their extornitate salaries and pensions...we pay over £300,000 grand a year for that laughable double act Kavanagh & Alston...A man of such a pedigree background Alston has turned into a farcical laughing stock since he took over his Commissioner Gordon Role...What we need here is F*****G some delboy dressed up as Batman then we will have the whole package of blithering idiots.
The only thing that is bothering them in the words of Dirty Harry (Clint Eastwood) is cleaning the god dam mess up afterwards.
They dont care how many suffer and snuff it on the roads...some do a small minority that go in the job with a conscience..the majority don't they become oblivious and hardened to it, the majority are so thick skinned that there is no need for body armour with some of them....Their argument is they have to be to get by the daily grind and toil....My argument is that most of them don't give a S**T because they should not have been selected to get in the job in the first place...
This is all showboating and pandering from the press office to the media thick'os .
We are so gullible we eat this daily S**T and think oh lovely they are trying to do us a favour?
They look after their own on our money, if they really cared you would not hear half the stories you read in this on line chip paper....
The service now costs over a £Billion a year to run most of that is swallowed up in supporting the pension scheme.
The government was to chop their money in cuts, because they have been over fattened during the blair and brown nose years...
Tough t***y old peelers..
Please cut out all this B**LSH*T and get on with the work...
Kavanagh & Alston I think your days are numbered old chums?

You anti - old Bill, by any chance, maybe you need to see the MH nurse..

[quote][p][bold]TheBrotherhoodOfTheB
ell[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote:
If deaths dropped from 43 to 41, and police say the number is still too high, what number do the police deem acceptable?[/p][/quote]Essex Police are not bothered how many people get killed on our roads its all about the stats.
They are worried that the inspectorate of constabulary will get a pull from whitehall if they are not doing their bit in looking good.
The system and the Police especially do B***ER all in protecting the people that pay for the service.
They don't come out and record crime anymore unless there is fool proof evidence.
They wont arrest for questioning or caution anyone now unless its cast iron concrete.
If they were concerned about Deaths any type of death, people would be nicked left right and centre for the deaths at Colchester hospital, which they are currently investigating...(Or having a cup of tea patting nursing staff on the B***OMS).
Look lets get real here they dont give a F**K about the likes of you and I or the masses.
This is just another excuse to nick everyone for all and sundry to glean more fines to run their shambles of an outfit, to go on paying their extornitate salaries and pensions...we pay over £300,000 grand a year for that laughable double act Kavanagh & Alston...A man of such a pedigree background Alston has turned into a farcical laughing stock since he took over his Commissioner Gordon Role...What we need here is F*****G some delboy dressed up as Batman then we will have the whole package of blithering idiots.
The only thing that is bothering them in the words of Dirty Harry (Clint Eastwood) is cleaning the god dam mess up afterwards.
They dont care how many suffer and snuff it on the roads...some do a small minority that go in the job with a conscience..the majority don't they become oblivious and hardened to it, the majority are so thick skinned that there is no need for body armour with some of them....Their argument is they have to be to get by the daily grind and toil....My argument is that most of them don't give a S**T because they should not have been selected to get in the job in the first place...
This is all showboating and pandering from the press office to the media thick'os .
We are so gullible we eat this daily S**T and think oh lovely they are trying to do us a favour?
They look after their own on our money, if they really cared you would not hear half the stories you read in this on line chip paper....
The service now costs over a £Billion a year to run most of that is swallowed up in supporting the pension scheme.
The government was to chop their money in cuts, because they have been over fattened during the blair and brown nose years...
Tough t***y old peelers..
Please cut out all this B**LSH*T and get on with the work...
Kavanagh & Alston I think your days are numbered old chums?[/p][/quote]You anti - old Bill, by any chance, maybe you need to see the MH nurse..Nowthatsworthknowing

TheBrotherhoodOfTheB
ell wrote…

Nebs wrote…

If deaths dropped from 43 to 41, and police say the number is still too high, what number do the police deem acceptable?

Essex Police are not bothered how many people get killed on our roads its all about the stats.
They are worried that the inspectorate of constabulary will get a pull from whitehall if they are not doing their bit in looking good.
The system and the Police especially do B***ER all in protecting the people that pay for the service.
They don't come out and record crime anymore unless there is fool proof evidence.
They wont arrest for questioning or caution anyone now unless its cast iron concrete.
If they were concerned about Deaths any type of death, people would be nicked left right and centre for the deaths at Colchester hospital, which they are currently investigating...(Or having a cup of tea patting nursing staff on the B***OMS).
Look lets get real here they dont give a F**K about the likes of you and I or the masses.
This is just another excuse to nick everyone for all and sundry to glean more fines to run their shambles of an outfit, to go on paying their extornitate salaries and pensions...we pay over £300,000 grand a year for that laughable double act Kavanagh & Alston...A man of such a pedigree background Alston has turned into a farcical laughing stock since he took over his Commissioner Gordon Role...What we need here is F*****G some delboy dressed up as Batman then we will have the whole package of blithering idiots.
The only thing that is bothering them in the words of Dirty Harry (Clint Eastwood) is cleaning the god dam mess up afterwards.
They dont care how many suffer and snuff it on the roads...some do a small minority that go in the job with a conscience..the majority don't they become oblivious and hardened to it, the majority are so thick skinned that there is no need for body armour with some of them....Their argument is they have to be to get by the daily grind and toil....My argument is that most of them don't give a S**T because they should not have been selected to get in the job in the first place...
This is all showboating and pandering from the press office to the media thick'os .
We are so gullible we eat this daily S**T and think oh lovely they are trying to do us a favour?
They look after their own on our money, if they really cared you would not hear half the stories you read in this on line chip paper....
The service now costs over a £Billion a year to run most of that is swallowed up in supporting the pension scheme.
The government was to chop their money in cuts, because they have been over fattened during the blair and brown nose years...
Tough t***y old peelers..
Please cut out all this B**LSH*T and get on with the work...
Kavanagh & Alston I think your days are numbered old chums?

You anti - old Bill, by any chance, maybe you need to see the MH nurse..

Score: 3

Nowthatsworthknowing
7:48am Sun 5 Jan 14

Kim Gandy wrote…

I see the usual gang dispensing the usual ridiculous comments. Has the Echo website become a competition for the most idiotic comment,

Personally I think switching off the streetlights will make it worse.. for pedestrians in particular who cannot be seen until the last minute,

Also bike riders - the number of times I see these people riding bikes at night with no proper reflective gear or lights on.

Then there's the increasing possibility of traveller horses in the road... there was a whole spate of them last year.

The risks seem to increase but this will be the case for as long as we have the loony left in charge.. They are behind everything that is wrong with this country.

You wear reflective clothing if you want to be seen, why would people be out walking after midnight ? sunglasses might come in handy, because once your eyes have been accustomed to the dark, and a passing car with it's full beam dazzling you, first you could be blinded, then for the next 10 minutes unable to see.
So get your self a reflective jacket a torch and some sunglasses, job done.

[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote:
I see the usual gang dispensing the usual ridiculous comments. Has the Echo website become a competition for the most idiotic comment,
Personally I think switching off the streetlights will make it worse.. for pedestrians in particular who cannot be seen until the last minute,
Also bike riders - the number of times I see these people riding bikes at night with no proper reflective gear or lights on.
Then there's the increasing possibility of traveller horses in the road... there was a whole spate of them last year.
The risks seem to increase but this will be the case for as long as we have the loony left in charge.. They are behind everything that is wrong with this country.[/p][/quote]You wear reflective clothing if you want to be seen, why would people be out walking after midnight ? sunglasses might come in handy, because once your eyes have been accustomed to the dark, and a passing car with it's full beam dazzling you, first you could be blinded, then for the next 10 minutes unable to see.
So get your self a reflective jacket a torch and some sunglasses, job done.Nowthatsworthknowing

Kim Gandy wrote…

I see the usual gang dispensing the usual ridiculous comments. Has the Echo website become a competition for the most idiotic comment,

Personally I think switching off the streetlights will make it worse.. for pedestrians in particular who cannot be seen until the last minute,

Also bike riders - the number of times I see these people riding bikes at night with no proper reflective gear or lights on.

Then there's the increasing possibility of traveller horses in the road... there was a whole spate of them last year.

The risks seem to increase but this will be the case for as long as we have the loony left in charge.. They are behind everything that is wrong with this country.

You wear reflective clothing if you want to be seen, why would people be out walking after midnight ? sunglasses might come in handy, because once your eyes have been accustomed to the dark, and a passing car with it's full beam dazzling you, first you could be blinded, then for the next 10 minutes unable to see.
So get your self a reflective jacket a torch and some sunglasses, job done.

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