It's really not necessary to make multiple posts in the span of minutes. You can use the edit button at the bottom to add new info.

You're spending WAY too much on the motherboard. Almost 3x too much. Even if you want to leave the option of multi-GPU open, the Asrock Extreme4 is going for something like $115 in places. Use the savings to do two things:

- Get a Fractal Design Define R4 or similar. (Define R4 is currently $80 with FS at Newegg.)
- Get an SSD for the OS and games with noticeable load times. On your budget there's no reason not to have one.

It's really not necessary to make multiple posts in the span of minutes. You can use the edit button at the bottom to add new info.

- My bad I forgot about the edit button :p lol

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You're spending WAY too much on the motherboard. Almost 3x too much. Even if you want to leave the option of multi-GPU open, the Asrock Extreme4 is going for something like $115 in places. Use the savings to do two things:

-Thank you, I don't much about the motherboards so i actually had a hard time picking one

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Get a Fractal Design Define R4 or similar. (Define R4 is currently $80 with FS at Newegg.)

-just googled and watched some reviews on the Fractal R4 and it looks nice but it doesn't look like it will have the same airflow as the other case, will this be bad for the PCs performance??

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Get an SSD for the OS and games with noticeable load times. On your budget there's no reason not to have one.

Thank you, I don't much about the motherboards so i actually had a hard time picking one

The idea with motherboards is to determine what features you need and find the least expensive motherboard from a reputable manufacturer that meets your needs.

Your build looks pretty standard. 1 GPU, few or no expansion cards, 3 or fewer drives. In that case just about any Z77 motherboard is going to fit the bill.

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just googled and watched some reviews on the Fractal R4 and it looks nice but it doesn't look like it will have the same airflow as the other case, will this be bad for the PCs performance??

As long as your parts are all staying within acceptable operating temperature when the system is running at full load it doesn't matter. There's no real difference between a CPU running at, say 60C vs. 70C at load. I would read Anand's review of the R4 to help you decide. Written reviews from thorough sites like Anandtech are generally more helpful than video reviews in answering performance questions. Video reviews have their place in terms of letting you "walk through" the case, but there's a lot of data in a written review if you have questions about airflow, noise, etc.

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Do you have any suggestions on how much GB i should get on the SSD

That's really your call. Most people opt for something between 120 and 256GB. I'm looking at buying something in the 180-256 range soon. The key is understanding that the SSD only needs to hold things where you want a dramatic improvement in load times. The OS will obviously need to be on there, and any of your games that have to load large maps for example. Games where you aren't waiting on hard drive I/O aren't going to benefit much from an SSD. For some people that means they can get away with a 120 or even 60GB SSD. (Going below 100GB would absolutely not be my recommendation for a gaming machine.)

As long as your parts are all staying within acceptable operating temperature when the system is running at full load it doesn't matter. There's no real difference between a CPU running at, say 60C vs. 70C at load. I would read Anand's review of the R4 to help you decide. Written reviews from thorough sites like Anandtech are generally more helpful than video reviews in answering performance questions. Video reviews have their place in terms of letting you "walk through" the case, but there's a lot of data in a written review if you have questions about airflow, noise, etc.

-thank you, I'll start reading the reading review

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That's really your call. Most people opt for something between 120 and 256GB. I'm looking at buying something in the 180-256 range soon. The key is understanding that the SSD only needs to hold things where you want a dramatic improvement in load times. The OS will obviously need to be on there, and any of your games that have to load large maps for example. Games where you aren't waiting on hard drive I/O aren't going to benefit much from an SSD. For some people that means they can get away with a 120 or even 60GB SSD. (Going below 100GB would absolutely not be my recommendation for a gaming machine.)

-Are there any specific brands you would recommend??

****also should i just use a stock fan or should I get an after market fan for my CPU????****

Intel, Samsung, Crucial are my top three in no particular order. I think it's fine to install games on a 7200 RPM hard disk. I have a 120GB SSD and it fits a few games. But if I'm really honest with myself, I don't even think having games on the SSD really makes a big enough difference to pay much extra for, and my hard drives are 5400 RPM. That said, drives smaller than 120GB have typically much higher cost per gigabyte. Just get a Crucial M4 128GB, Intel 330 120GB, Intel 330 180GB or Samsung 840 120GB. You can always leave the SSD for later as well (i.e. look out for a killer sale on a good drive).

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****also should i just use a stock fan or should I get an after market fan for my CPU????****

You did state earlier that you wanted to overclock, so yes you will need aftermarket cooling. Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo and Hyper 612 are good choices at the moment.

1. good
2. not a good price for that unit. Since you're unlikely to buy two graphics cards for this config, you'll be fine with an XFX 550W at $50 AR
3. get the full ATX Z77 Extreme4, not the microATX Extreme4-M. If Z77 Extreme3 is significantly cheaper get that one instead
4. you'll want to make sure it's the 3570K, that's the one with the fully unlocked clock multiplier for overclocking
5. you don't need more than 8GB RAM, grab two of these Samsung modules
6. good
7. good but why do you want 3TB of storage for a gaming-only PC? you'll probably be able to fit all your games on that SSD alone
8. any basic dvd drive will do like this one

Regarding your trip to MC, I probably wouldn't buy anything else from there than the CPU and the motherboard.

That list is still missing the cooler, the monitor and a copy of Windows.

3. get the full ATX Z77 Extreme4, not the microATX Extreme4-M. If Z77 Extreme3 is significantly cheaper get that one instead

If money is not the problem, which one do you prefer Asus P8Z77-V, Maximus gene or ASRock Z77 Extreme4?

And another thing about MOBO, some guy on ebay is selling a used Asus P8Z77-V, because he found the current bios does not support I7 Ivy Bridge. But according to ASUS, it seems do. That really confused me. Any chance you would know?http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASUS-P8Z77...item3a7cceb0ca

If money is not the problem, which one do you prefer Asus P8Z77-V or ASRock Z77 Extreme4?

And another thing about MOBO, some guy on ebay is selling a used Asus P8Z77-V, because he found the current bios does not support I7 Ivy Bridge. But according to ASUS, it seems do. That really confused me. Any chance you would know?http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASUS-P8Z77...item3a7cceb0ca

- saw the link and it looks like a really good deal but, don't forget that it they could end up charging you a lot for Shipping and handeling since is from Germany

If money is not the problem, which one do you prefer Asus P8Z77-V, Maximus gene or ASRock Z77 Extreme4?

To quote myself from above:

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Originally Posted by DSF

The idea with motherboards is to determine what features you need and find the least expensive motherboard from a reputable manufacturer that meets your needs.

Your build looks pretty standard. 1 GPU, few or no expansion cards, 3 or fewer drives. In that case just about any Z77 motherboard is going to fit the bill.

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And another thing about MOBO, some guy on ebay is selling a used Asus P8Z77-V, because he found the current bios does not support I7 Ivy Bridge. But according to ASUS, it seems do. That really confused me. Any chance you would know?http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASUS-P8Z77...item3a7cceb0ca

I can't imagine why it wouldn't be supported. Z77 is the most advanced chipset for LGA1155 CPUs. It's entirely possible he doesn't know what he's talking about.

However, if you want to know 100% for sure the thing to do is to go to ASUS's website and look up the CPU compatibility list for the P8Z77-V.

Make sure that you get the CPU + mobo combo at MicroCenter. The Z77 Pro3 is $95 and the i5 3570K is $190. Then there is a $40 discount on top of that, meaning that you can get both for $245, which is about $65 less than Newegg.

I can't imagine why it wouldn't be supported. Z77 is the most advanced chipset for LGA1155 CPUs. It's entirely possible he doesn't know what he's talking about.

However, if you want to know 100% for sure the thing to do is to go to ASUS's website and look up the CPU compatibility list for the P8Z77-V.

Ye, I don't know what I am talking about either , but I did check the CPU support list from ASUS site, and it does work with I5 3570K and i7-3770K. I guess, eventually, asus will update the Bios file to support Ivy bridge. Again, I have no ideal what I am talking about

Ye, I don't know what I am talking about either , but I did check the CPU support list from ASUS site, and it does work with I5 3570K and i7-3770K. I guess, eventually, asus will update the Bios file to support Ivy bridge. Again, I have no ideal what I am talking about

It should support all Ivy Bridge CPUs out of the box, no BIOS update needed.

Make sure that you get the CPU + mobo combo at MicroCenter. The Z77 Pro3 is $95 and the i5 3570K is $190. Then there is a $40 discount on top of that, meaning that you can get both for $245, which is about $65 less than Newegg.

Thank you, I actually haven't had a chance to go see the micro center yet but I plan on doing so no later than tomorrow