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Withdrawal Some hints about the course of the withdrawal and a list of possible kratom withdrawal symptoms.

Important: the withdrawal symptoms are usually still comparable mild and short-lived for people who used kratom for -+ 1 year.The brain seems not to be the organ that is able to change very quickly (neither during the kratom use nor after quitting (?)).
After you have recovered from your kratom dependency, you still could be thrown back into your old dependency within some days of renewed Kratom use... Therefore questions or tips about active kratom use are not allowed in this subreddit. There are enough consumer subreddits like r/kratomkorner, r/kratomm, r/kratom
and others.

My usage was perfectly acceptable for a long time, but recently started to bloom out of control after finding a cheap, high quality, reliable vendor. I went from roughly 2 grams / day usage to easily over 10g / day usage - and this 10g daily usage persisted for roughly 4-5 months.

I'm posting here because I feel like I'm losing my mind, and I'm legitimately wondering if I need to check into the local psych hospital. Over the past 4-6 hours I've been experiencing EXTREME anxiety and depression, that is bordering on suicidal ideology. I'm literally rocking back-and-forth as I type this post.

Is this normal when quitting kratom? I've struggled with depression and anxiety my entire life but the level of anxiety I'm currently experiencing is unlike anything I've experienced before. I've done some cursory Google searches and the results have been....contradicting? Do I need to realistically worry about any serious PHYSICAL complications from this withdrawal?

Kratom seemed like such a godsend when I discovered it 12 months ago. A simple tablespoon of this green, leafy material and 30 minutes later I feel like a "normal human being (or, rather, what I've always IMAGINED a normal human being generally feels like")............sigh.

The last post i made here on Thursday was me telling you all that im quitting kratom cold turkey. That same week and week before, i went through my entire gabapentin prescription, and suboxone. 8-12 pills and 8 strips with a hefty 25-30gram dose. I dont know why i did this. Knowing the high amount of bupe would render the kratom useless. But in a way, it felt right. Right back to the good old days. Mixing codiene and hydrocodone. Snorts oxys and tramadols just to look in the mirror for those pinned pupils. Friday, i was dry. No worries, i still had the suboxone in me. So no withdrawal symptoms. Just a painful loneliness. Then Saturday, then sunday. Monday, the greatest day on earth. My shipment of kratom i ordered friday when i caved in. 400grams of green md and jongkong strains, was supposed to be delivered. The suboxone had worn off. I had no temper. Just anger. ANGER. I needed my fucking kratom and i couldn’t wait for this damn mailman. Who took all fucking day. Crying, giving into my suppressed thoughts. No more of that. Fuck that. Today marks the second day of choking down the green brain candy. I can not see myself without kratom. I fear my depression. Its a lion, in a cage of kratom waiting to break loose. I cant tolerate my thoughts when im sober. Ill end up putting a gun to my head. I know i will. Because every past attempt has been a failed drug overdose. This, is whats waiting for me. This is the reason i cant break from this. I want to stop. This is not me. Why cant we all be happy like the people in medicine commercials? What do i do? Where do i start? If i start tapering im going to immediately notice that this isn’t my dose, i know im going to hate it. This taper wont get me high or block the ugly truth!! Gosh. If your still reading. You must care. Because this is a-lot to take in. Im screwed. I dont get suboxone until January 15th. I shouldn’t have eaten those lime flavored strips like candy. But i cant wait any longer to quit. Guys and gals, im only 17. But, im a drug addict. Kratom is just another drug of choice.

I posted about a month ago I think. Super long term user. About 14 years ago started taking Kratom to quit using Oxy that I was abusing to help deal with throwing out my back. Found out about it from a friend who lived in Asia for years and he helped hook me up.

At the beginning I wasn’t a daily user. Mostly used it before sex because it helped me last longer and it made me feel good. Then about 5 years in we moved to China and I found sources I could get it for really cheap and it became a daily thing. Moved back to the states three years ago and kept my sources from Asia and rapidly began to burn through Kratom. Thirty to 40 gpd roughly kept up for a few years.

Then in October I started having chest pains. Had just started using a new vendor locally too, so maybe it’s his strains that I wasn’t used to after using the same guy for years. And using a white strain, which I know can be more stimulating. Had a big spike in blood pressure too at the same time. Went to the ER when it got really bad. Been through numerous tests on my heart, all passed with flying colors. Blood test was great except for a bad Vitamin D deficiency. Doc has me on some strong vitamin D supplements to counteract that. So I am just assuming the chest pains are Kratom related. Two months later and still experiencing chest pains though. They come and go randomly. I might go two days with minimal chest pressure and then get slammed. It always seems better in the morning and worse at night. I can’t tell if it’s a part of the WD or not or if it’s some other issue. But it started when I was using fully, so that makes it weird.

Since the chest pain started and I realized it might be the Kratom, I have been on a strong taper and that has been going extremely well. I am down to a level teaspoon and a half only before bed Because I can’t sleep without it yet. So that’s probably 4-5 gpd down from 30-40. I can make it through the whole day without it no problem now. The hard part is at night. The restlessness is so bad I can’t sleep at all when I try to CT.

I have a long commute to work through a canyon everyday and if I don’t sleep At night I start nodding off on my drive which is super scary. It’s not worth the risk for that. Too many twisty roads and oncoming traffic. I can’t pull the plug on it all the way yet. Have Christmas Break coming up this weekend and will finally have a good block of time where I can try to step off for good where it won’t matter if I don’t sleep for a few days and don’t have to make that drive every day.

I’ve been using ULDN with my doses the last few weeks and feel like it helps. I’m taking magnesium at night, cBD, Ashwaghanda, L Tryptophan for sleep. I just need to find something for the RLS.

Have another appointment with the doc this evening, and going to push for a CT scan and ultrasound to make sure nothing else is going on with this chest issue. They’ve already done EKG, chest X-ray, blood work, and stress test on my heart. All passed with flying colors. The chest pressure was just that at the beginning, but now I have times with strong heart palpitations, and what feels like a lump in my throat. Not fun.

If it’s not the heart, then the other worries would be esophagus problems or cancer, or possible lymphoma. Lymph nodes in my neck are definitely larger than normal. Possible problems with lymph nodes and that is putting pressure on my chest. I keep thinking about the possible long term effects that Kratom has had on my body. We don’t have the science or studies yet to show what it does long term though.

Makes me think.....Have I fucked up my vascular system from long term use? Have I fucked up my heart? Has all that powder down my throat caused esophagus problems or cancer? Or is all of this something totally different? I guess time will tell. I’ll keep you guys up to date on what they find out..... Thank you to all of you who are sharing your stories and what helps you. This forum is giving me the strength and will to push through and get this out of my body. Years and years of Kratom use coming to an end. It’s hard to remember what life looks like where I haven’t been dependent on this plant.

Well, I’m quitting for the 5th time in 2 years. I’m 35 and never thought I would be a drug addict. Kratom is such a Strange drug to be addicted to. WTH are we doing? As soon as I quit I’m always perplexed in how I let this happen to myself. Aren’t you guys baffled how we got addicted to slurping down pond scum? It’s absolutely insane when taken into a sober perspective.

Anyways, i finally have a gap of a few days off. No taper (they never help and/or I fail at them) 30gpd. Took my last dose today around 1pm. No real noticeable withdrawals yet. Kratom is weird because it always hits right after the 24 hour mark for me. The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th day is hard. Days 5-10 physical symptoms gone but this heavy-cry-my-eyes out depression sets in. I’m not sure what is worse. Just a deep despair that has no explanation. I know I’ll make it through it. I just don’t understand how I talk myself in taking kratom again a few weeks later, and then i relapse. I trick myself.

I see this drug as a wonderful tool and can be very beneficial to some people, but it really has changed me as a person for the worse. It has turned me Into an addict. After Kratom, I was no longer able to have a healthy relationship with any drugs or alcohol. It’s just everything in excess now.

I appreciate all you guys on here. It’s nice to know there are others that know the struggle. Everyday time heals me from here on out. Wish me luck.

Hi all. I was taking approximately 30-40 capsules a day for almost a year. I lost a lot of possessions, jobs and relationships due to Kratom. Who would have thought something I can buy at the store down the street would totally ruin my life?

Anyway, I’m 27 days clean. Some days are better than others, but the first 2 weeks were complete hell. I still get restless and think about using, but then I just play the tape back. Laying in bed all day with debilitating anxiety, not wanting to even shower or eat. I never want to go through that again

Daily walks and AA meetings help immensely. As does this forum. Thank you all for the inspiration. It helped more than anything.

I’ll update as much as I can. To all that are considering quitting, YOU CAN DO IT!!! It gets better.

Dropped my dose yesterday, and stuck with it today. Another 5 days and dropping another gram. Just worked out for theme first time since middle school pitching camp, and although I feel weaker than my 13 year old self as far as strength goes, I feel good about taking that step. Blood pumping, legs rested, and motivation to keep working out. Just a small update of many to come. Hope y'all are doing well.

So basically before this package came in I waited too long to order another and went from about 27-30 gpd to about 21 then quickly down to about 12 so I wouldn’t run out. I was planning on tapering but some plans changed at work and i have the next 2 days off so I figure I could get the worst out of the way hopefully.

I’m on lunch right now about to take another 4gs like I’ve been doing just for the rest of the day but I’m considering not taking another 4 after and just riding it out. I was heavily addicted to benzos and alcohol and am probably still somewhat withdrawing from them, but I assume if I can do that I can do this. I also am prone to suicidal thoughts especially during withdrawals obviously but it shouldn’t be too bad since I’m expecting it. When i cut down to 12gpd I was definitely suicidal but didn’t really attribute it to the drop in my dose and I think it got better when I realized that’s what it was. My thinking is basically that I’d rather have a few really bad days then a few pretty bad weeks of tapering. Sorry for this being so long hahah

Six months ago I discovered Kratom and started taking it for pain due to a chronic medical condition. After reading a lot of negative things and how it can cause withdrawal, I am deciding to go off of it for good. For the past 6 months I have been taking 4 grams once a day in the morning. Would it be in my best interest to taper my dose down or am I already taking a low enough dose? Also, any tips on how to mitigate the withdrawal symptoms will be much appreciated. I have a lot of gabapentin 600mg left over from a previous surgery along with CBD oil. I have read that gabapentin works quite well, but I should limit my use to less than a week? Thanks in advance for the advice.

I am on day 11 quitting kratom CT after switching from suboxone. I switched from 8mg subs to kratom for about 6 weeks before I jumped off. I was taking about 24-32g per day at the end.

I guess everyone is different, but for me this withdrawal has been worse than suboxone or oxy. I'm sure at this point I put a bandaid on my sub withdrawal, so it may be worse than just straight kratom w/d, not really sure.

Anyway, my biggest issue now is sleep. I get a couple of shitty hours of sleep a night at best, and the anxiety of not going to be able to sleep again just kills my day. I have a bunch of Trazodone, which I got for sub detox in the past (worked like a charm then), but it just makes me drowsy. I had a couple of 10mg ambiens that I was saving for when I couldn't take it anymore. Last night, I took 1 thinking it would knock me out cold. Didn't even make me tired. Said fuck it and took the other one, nothing.

I am pretty much out of ideas at this point. For the first 5 days or so, I had klonopin that put me right to sleep, but I am all out. Any ideas?

I was walking outside just a few minutes ago to go grab my laundry from the laundry room in my apartment complex. The cold breeze came across my face and I felt a chill go over my body. I very briefly had a feeling I hadn't felt since I was in college, which was more than 10 years ago. "I'm alive" I thought and a warm feeling went through my body as if all was right with the world.

All things aside, after a year of taking 30-60 gpd off and on, it's been a very long time since I've been without kratom for an extended period of time. To make matters worse, I can't remember the last time I went an extended period of time without taking benadryl (diphenhydramine.)

I've slept like shit the entire time, minus the first day where I slept for about 14 hours and over the weekend to make up for all the missed sleep. I feel like my body is constantly going and I cannot get sleepy regardless of how hard I try. I may be lethargic, tired and restless but I never feel sleepy. I will lay in bed for hours on end and eventually fall asleep maybe getting 1-4 hours. Last night, I took valerian root, melatonin and a little phenibut to try and put me to sleep. It definitely calmed me, but getting to sleep was hard. I felt like a million pounds at one point, but I did get about 4 hours of (forced) sleep.

I've been trying to pinpoint chemically what is actually taking place and causing this... I have formulated that since my body is no longer producing dopamine like it should, that it is no longer inhibiting noradrenaline like it should, thus causing me to be constantly alert and unable to sleep. I've read this in a few places and it seems to support my idea. I realize this will only correct itself with time.

My appetite gets a touch better every day. I don't nearly eat as well as I should. I will go long periods without eating, my breakfast choices suck and the food I am eating is not the best, but I am trying. I need to force myself to eat properly one day and just go from there. The good news is that I am about to go on vacation and will have a good solid week and a half to rest, eat as I wish and come back all the stronger.

I do find myself pretty bored all the time. I haven't been able to find interest in much. I did muster some interest in cleaning today, so as I stated earlier, I washed some clothes and tidied my room. That did make me feel a little bit better.

Overall, I have found myself feeling better. I believe by 2 weeks I will feel much better and by the 30 day mark I will really be back in the world. I look forward to it.

I'm excited everybody! I'm going to Hijinx in Philly! EDM festival on Dec. 28-29. Those will be days 14 & 15 of no usage (assuming I stay the course).

Here's why I'm stoked: I just discovered this world of EDM festivals in September: impulsively went to Imagine in ATL, 3-day camping festival, and it was an incredible, therapeutic, mind-opening experience, even WITH the fog of 3x daily Kratom use.

I've already noticed how much more vivid music and visuals are when I don't use, so I'm stoked for what this could be like.

Questions for y'all: how were you feeling at 2 weeks clean? How was the emotional coaster? And, should I do the first night of the festival totally sober (read, no Molly or LSD)?

I dropped one gram per dose today and am in no discomfort so far! It is a small step on a long road, but am glad to say I'm doing well! I was dealt some bad news yesterday, and wanted to take refuge in a large dose extremely bad, but I stayed strong, and tapered today. My girlfriend has been going through some rough mental issues the past week or two, and things got really rough for her the last two days. It really made me want to quit even more to be there for her at all times. She is wonderful and very supportive. I won't find anyone like her again, so I need to make sure she is alive and well. All in all, feeling responsible and motivated. Down to 5 grams per dose! We can do this guys and gals! I'll keep y'all posted.

The physical stuff is pretty much over, but I'm pretty pissed at how stubborn the mental symptoms are right now. I pretty much constantly have anxiety and depression. Nothing feels good to me right now. I also have low energy and I'm super irritable. I only used for four months, and it feels really shitty that my mental state seems to be getting worse even though it's been almost two and a half fucking weeks.

I know there's not much I can do but I'm irritable and pissed off that I just can't fucking feel good today. Hope that helps someone. At the very least, it adds more fuel to the fire to never use this shit again.

I relapsed. My relationship ended after 3,5 years. I'm still wanting to be with her, but at the same time she has hurt me a lot. I couldn't take the pain of distrust anymore. Had a rough personal time and everything seemed to fall apart, while at the same time we were moving in together. I couldn't take it anymore so I ended the relationship. She still doesn't recognize what pain distrust causes. But at the same time I'm still in love with her. If she would change I'll sign up for a relationship with her in an instant. That's what I'm still hoping for but at the same it's holding me back. I'm in doubt if I ever will find someone that special again. All that is making me depressed and it seems endless. There are no good days, or even good moments, there is only agony. That's why I started to use kratom again.

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At first it did help me a bit, but of course, the positive things faded. I didn't care that much about the consequences since everything seemed to be destroyed anyway. I'm still not ready to quit, since I am a social worker and my job is quite demanding. I tried a job interview for, it all went well, but with the kratom use and the agony I found myself to mentally unstable to push through.

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I know I have to quit so in February I will have a week off and will quit CT. Maybe I will taper down in the upcoming weeks. Right now I'm using around 20g a day for like 8 weeks. I have been addicted once, this will be my second CT.

My psychiatrist (addiction medicine) is telling me I am going to die from kratom and is threatening to send me back to rehab (been there before for benzos) my gf (who I am proposing to soon) made it clear if I ever go back she will leave me (kinda fucked up, I know).

On top of that, I just want to quit. I'm tired of mixing up sludge every hour of every day. I want to be clean.

I am out of work. Instead of applying for jobs, I sit in my bed in my parents house every day (25 years old) and drink glass after glass of kratom until my vision starts to wobble and I feel nauseous. Then I look at Reddit until it's time to go to sleep, then repeat. It's been 4 months of this.

How do I quit? I've never gone more than a day without it. When I do I get terrifying nightmares and sleep paralysis that kind of fucks me up the next few days. I want to taper and I think I have the self control to do so because I finally have the drive to get off of it.

Okay so before I ever took any kratom, I knew about the dependency aspect so I’ve seen this coming. I have taken roughly 1 oz of kratom powder everyday for the past roughly 3 months. Had a few days of not having and did notice withdrawals within 24 hrs or so. Sneezing, mild cold sweats, RLS, general physical discomfort and anxiety...

Now I have gone thru opioid withdrawals many many times as I was an IV heroin/fentanyl user for 3 or so years. So I know what to expect, I’m just wondering if I should expect anything of the same intensity. It’s obviously a much more mild opioid but I read the withdrawals can go on for weeks. Will I be able to function in normal day to day life or will I be essentially bed ridden? (which I feel I am during heroin WDs).

I’ve attempted a taper about 3 times and it’s harder for me to stick w it than I hoped so I need to CT.

If i’ve been taking an oz a day for roughly 3 months, how bad should I expect my symptoms?

I'll be going to see my shrink in a couple weeks and I am going to tell her I'm ready to get off of kratom. Since most doctors it seems aren't as familiar with kratom as you would think they would be, are there any medications I could request a script for to ease the withdrawals? I'd like to have some idea of what I am talking about before I go to her and approach the subject.
I apologise if this is a repeat question, I've seen threads related to otc meds for WD, not prescribed medication. At least I didn't find one anyways.
Thanks

I took Kratom for about three months last year and had an extremely bad experience one day that turned me off of it. I experienced the worst wobbles in the world, thought I was going to pass out all day, wanted to vomit all day, and could not look at someone without feeling like my eyes were in two different directions so I quit. Little did I know the next day’s choice of quitting kratom and feeling like crap was just the withdrawals. I had never been addicted to anything before so I had just assumed the crappy feelings, restless leg, and cold sweats were just me getting sick and/or hungover from the apparent bad kratom experience. 3 months later and I started taking Kratom again. I have been taking it for about 6 months straight with a couple weeks of me being clean where I jumped my 20-30grams a day dose to just 2 grams to hurry my body off of the stuff. Now I am definitely more addicted than I have anytime before and I KNOW I am addicted unlike my ignorant past self. If I take on average 20-30 grams a day (half in the morning/ other half at night), what is a good starting point and plan that I can use to comfortably get off of this drug? My biggest fear is the restless leg and depression as that has always been the worst for me

i’ve been reading this sub for a long time and finally decided to make a post. here’s a little background info:

-started taking kratom about 2.5 years ago
-it helped me to stop drinking
-it helps with my anxiety and depression
-im totally dependent on it at this point

i’ve gotten off of it a handful of times before, but only for a few weeks at the most. it seems like each time i try to quit the withdrawals get worse and worse.

i’ve been taking kratom pretty much every day for the past 6 months and my dosage has been pretty high. roughly 30 grams a day.
anyway, i want to stop taking it but have a number of concerns...

there are a ton of kava (kratom) bars where i live and i really enjoy the social aspect of it, have made alot of good friends at these places.

kratom really does help alot keeping me away from alcohol and also helps with my anxiety / depression, probably more helpful than any of the prescriptions i’ve been on...

i know what to expect when i stop as far as withdrawals are concerned, it really really sucks. do any of you have some suggestions to make it not so much of a nightmare? in particular, i’m looking for supplements or OTC meds that will actually help. i plan to exercise, eat well, meditate, read some books and such... but i’m wondering if there is some “secret weapon” that i haven’t found.
im also worried about going through the withdrawal and then relapsing, mainly because i’ve already done that several times. any tips or advice on that end would be greatly appreciated. i’m happy to share more of my story and situation, don’t hesitate to ask. i’ve seen a couple of “how-to” guides for getting off kratom, and while they’ve been beneficial i still feel like i’m missing something. a few people that i’ve talked to have told me to taper. others have said its best to just stop all at once and go about my daily
life as usual while the withdrawals are happening. and some have said it’s best to set aside the time and just sweat it out at home.
im sort of leaning towards the third option. im thinking that my ideal way to go about it is to block off as much time as im able to, stock up on any supplements / OTC that will help, and just focus on the detox. frankly, i dont think im in a good enough place financially to do a taper and i also don’t think i’d be able to discipline myself enough to actually taper.
hopefully this post won’t annoy anyone here (although im sure it inevitably will, this is reddit after all...)
just am feeling very conflicted, nervous and concerned. if anyone can offer some help or advice i’d really be thankful
thanks alot!
JD