TURBO is a very under rated JP album. Musically it is great, it leans more towards the glam metal thing but still great. Turbo was just a change in sound and look, Painkiller was also but, everyone worships that one. I have to admit though, I love everything JP has put out over the years; even the Tim Owens era. I think the Turbo album really showed that Priest is capable of anything.

[scorpion01] Saturday, October 25, 2008 3:25:49 PM

WOW! IN A SHORT TIME A LOT HAS BEEN SAID ON THE TURBO TOPIC. I THINK WHEN A NEW ALBUM FROM A BAND YOU ARE DEDICATED TO COMES OUT YOU WILL HAVE MANY PEOPLE WHO WILL BE SKEPTICAL. ESPECIALLY WITH A BAND LIKE PRIEST WHO IS SO DIVERSE.

I REMEMBER WHEN HELL BENT FOR LEATHER CAME OUT, LOYAL PRIEST FANS WERE UPSET BECAUSE THEY SAID PRIEST SOLD OUT TO COMMERCIALISM. AFTER STAINED CLASS, HELL BENT FOR LEATHER SEEMED MORE COMMERCIAL. BUT IT'S A GREAT ALBUM.

WITH TURBO, PRIEST EXPLORES THE SYNTHISIZED GUITARS. ARE THEY AS HEAVY OR AS DARK AS OTHER ALBUMS? NO! BUT I LIKE THE SONGS ON TURBO FOR WHAT THEY ARE. OTHER THAN PARENTIAL GUIDANCE AND PRIVATE PROPERTY. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY I REMEMBER HALFORD SAYING THEY WANTED SONGS ON TURBO TO BE FUN SUMMER PARTY LIKE SONGS.

AND RON, WE DO THINK A LOT ALIKE. MAYBE WE ARE THE EAST COAST AND MID WEST VERSIONS OF EACHOTHER

[ron h] Saturday, October 25, 2008 3:08:23 PM

I never made it to a Ripper show, never even tried...I do kinda feel bad about NOT supporting them in that way, but I did buy their CDs.[Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, October 25, 2008 2:44:52 PM)

Deep Freeze wrote:

Exactly! The key being they are that good! I did not, nor do I now, care for Ripper material. That entire era does nothing for me at all. My wife at the time worked security for a Priest gig here in vegas and said it was like watching a Priest cover band. I think that about sums it up.

[Deep Freeze] Saturday, October 25, 2008 2:44:52 PM

Exactly! The key being they are that good! I did not, nor do I now, care for Ripper material. That entire era does nothing for me at all. My wife at the time worked security for a Priest gig here in vegas and said it was like watching a Priest cover band. I think that about sums it up.

[ron h] Saturday, October 25, 2008 2:39:13 PM

I look at Jugulator as a very angry album...it had an attitude about it in a way I hadn't heard from Priest before...Cathedral Spires and Bullet Train are the two cuts I like the most off it...Demolition was an attempt to be more Priest Like, if you will...a few of the songs weren't too bad, but this era is the only time you hear the cursing...but remember when Eat Me Alive wound up on the top 10 list by the PMRC...you don't have to curse when you're THATGOOD!!![Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, October 25, 2008 2:29:12 PM)

Deep Freeze wrote:

Bill Cosby???!?!!? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hate Jello pudding! HAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!! Anyway, the point is, Priest have never had to resort to profanity and I think that is noteworthy. The lyrics from most Priest songs are thoughtful, insightful, grand, even provocative, but never profane. I think that says something about Rob and the others. I think it is very meaningful. Unfortunately, when Tim Owens joined the Band, they went for a more "modern" approach and I think it hurt them far more than helped. Even the music itself was not Priest-like, to me. Not as melodic. Very crunchy and raw.

There aren't too many Metal bands out there that don't curse...but that is something that has never crossed my mind when listening to Priest...they don't have to curse to bring the house down...excellent point DF...

Deep Freeze wrote:

Yes, welcome indeed Chopper!
Well 'Child, I must say that one of the very best things about Priest music is that there is no profanity. Apart from the "Ripper" years, Priest simply takes the "high road" when it comes to song writing and I applaud them for it. Such a needless, mindless way to communicate! It is bad enough that one chooses to use obscene language as a means of expression but when a "song writer" has to use it for posterity I find it appalling.

Unfortunately, that is the way it is with most of today's "music". It seems that the only way they can write a song is if it has a profanity laced verse or ten in it. So sad. So lame. disgusting.

devils_child wrote:

I'm feelin' for you Freeze....listening to that tripe. If it was me i would have flung that CD out the window ages ago, then claimed to know nothing about its whereabouts. But i guess when your married you gotta make sacrifices. HA!
Ah yes, let's put profanity in our music so it appeals to all the disenchanted youth. So lame. I hope to God that the kids hearing that stuff don't think its acceptable to talk to a woman... in fact anyone like that. It's terrible.

Deep Freeze wrote:

HA!!!!!!!!!! Exactly! I guess I use Kid Rock as an example because the Princess recently bought his "new" CD and plays it constantly. She thinks it is just great. Well, I have had the unfortunate opportunity to hear many of the tracks and it is really sad. He steals music from past artists and writes nonsense and people buy it up. There is one track where he decalres to an ex-girlfriend that she has made a terrible mistake in hurting him because he is a "song writer" and he is going to "get" her with his "music". The track then becomes some half-assed country-like tune with an enormous amount of babble. Nothing substantial to it at all. I guess it all comes down to selling albums. I have noticed that he declares this very thing in MANY of his "songs". He is GREAT because he SELLS albums, followed by a barage of profanity that apparently proves he is "cool" and an "artist".

devils_child wrote:

LMFAO.... Kid Rock... I hear you on all of what you just posted there. Now there's no wondering why this 20 year old chick listens to music that was made before she was born... Because look at the modern alternatives. The only stuff that i have taken any intrest in is *surprise* Modern British Rock music... that's because they write and actually perform their own stuff.
And i can't take anymore of this "remixing" and "sampling" of older tracks which as you said new "artists" re-package as their own. It has nothing to do with paying tribute to the original writers, but more or less them just trying to make a buck of someone elses hard work.

Deep Freeze wrote:

I think you have "hit the nail on the head", as it were. Judas Priest remain relevant after almost 40 years of making music in a genre that has been declared countless times AND does not enjoy nearly the following it did during its "heyday".

Music today is very limited. There are many very talented musicians but there are far more "entertainers". Unfortunately, most of the latter try to portray themselves as "musicians" or "writers", all very disingenuously I might add. I hate to pound on one guy but, take Kid Rock as an example. He claims, quite boisterously, to be a "song writer". Somehow, he believes that if he records or plays someone else's written music, changes a stanza and then "writes" a few lyrics, he is a "musician". This seems to be the way many of the more popular entertainers think. The art of actual song writing is lost. Not by all, mind you! there are still many very talented writers!

Bands like Priest are who they are because they are truly talented. I am not saying that it takes NO talent to copy someone else's work and make millions selling it as your own. Far from it. I think it is incredibly bright of a guy with VERY limited talent to take advantage of a buying public that simply has NO clue.

Edited at: Saturday, October 25, 2008 2:31:31 PM

[Deep Freeze] Saturday, October 25, 2008 2:29:12 PM

Bill Cosby???!?!!? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hate Jello pudding! HAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!! Anyway, the point is, Priest have never had to resort to profanity and I think that is noteworthy. The lyrics from most Priest songs are thoughtful, insightful, grand, even provocative, but never profane. I think that says something about Rob and the others. I think it is very meaningful. Unfortunately, when Tim Owens joined the Band, they went for a more "modern" approach and I think it hurt them far more than helped. Even the music itself was not Priest-like, to me. Not as melodic. Very crunchy and raw.

There aren't too many Metal bands out there that don't curse...but that is something that has never crossed my mind when listening to Priest...they don't have to curse to bring the house down...excellent point DF...

Deep Freeze wrote:

Yes, welcome indeed Chopper!
Well 'Child, I must say that one of the very best things about Priest music is that there is no profanity. Apart from the "Ripper" years, Priest simply takes the "high road" when it comes to song writing and I applaud them for it. Such a needless, mindless way to communicate! It is bad enough that one chooses to use obscene language as a means of expression but when a "song writer" has to use it for posterity I find it appalling.

Unfortunately, that is the way it is with most of today's "music". It seems that the only way they can write a song is if it has a profanity laced verse or ten in it. So sad. So lame. disgusting.

devils_child wrote:

I'm feelin' for you Freeze....listening to that tripe. If it was me i would have flung that CD out the window ages ago, then claimed to know nothing about its whereabouts. But i guess when your married you gotta make sacrifices. HA!
Ah yes, let's put profanity in our music so it appeals to all the disenchanted youth. So lame. I hope to God that the kids hearing that stuff don't think its acceptable to talk to a woman... in fact anyone like that. It's terrible.

Deep Freeze wrote:

HA!!!!!!!!!! Exactly! I guess I use Kid Rock as an example because the Princess recently bought his "new" CD and plays it constantly. She thinks it is just great. Well, I have had the unfortunate opportunity to hear many of the tracks and it is really sad. He steals music from past artists and writes nonsense and people buy it up. There is one track where he decalres to an ex-girlfriend that she has made a terrible mistake in hurting him because he is a "song writer" and he is going to "get" her with his "music". The track then becomes some half-assed country-like tune with an enormous amount of babble. Nothing substantial to it at all. I guess it all comes down to selling albums. I have noticed that he declares this very thing in MANY of his "songs". He is GREAT because he SELLS albums, followed by a barage of profanity that apparently proves he is "cool" and an "artist".

devils_child wrote:

LMFAO.... Kid Rock... I hear you on all of what you just posted there. Now there's no wondering why this 20 year old chick listens to music that was made before she was born... Because look at the modern alternatives. The only stuff that i have taken any intrest in is *surprise* Modern British Rock music... that's because they write and actually perform their own stuff.
And i can't take anymore of this "remixing" and "sampling" of older tracks which as you said new "artists" re-package as their own. It has nothing to do with paying tribute to the original writers, but more or less them just trying to make a buck of someone elses hard work.

Deep Freeze wrote:

I think you have "hit the nail on the head", as it were. Judas Priest remain relevant after almost 40 years of making music in a genre that has been declared countless times AND does not enjoy nearly the following it did during its "heyday".

Music today is very limited. There are many very talented musicians but there are far more "entertainers". Unfortunately, most of the latter try to portray themselves as "musicians" or "writers", all very disingenuously I might add. I hate to pound on one guy but, take Kid Rock as an example. He claims, quite boisterously, to be a "song writer". Somehow, he believes that if he records or plays someone else's written music, changes a stanza and then "writes" a few lyrics, he is a "musician". This seems to be the way many of the more popular entertainers think. The art of actual song writing is lost. Not by all, mind you! there are still many very talented writers!

Bands like Priest are who they are because they are truly talented. I am not saying that it takes NO talent to copy someone else's work and make millions selling it as your own. Far from it. I think it is incredibly bright of a guy with VERY limited talent to take advantage of a buying public that simply has NO clue.

Edited at: Saturday, October 25, 2008 2:31:31 PM

[ron h] Saturday, October 25, 2008 2:18:24 PM

OK Bill Cosby...

Just teasing you Deep Freeze...

There aren't too many Metal bands out there that don't curse...but that is something that has never crossed my mind when listening to Priest...they don't have to curse to bring the house down...excellent point DF...[Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, October 25, 2008 1:14:36 PM)

Deep Freeze wrote:

Yes, welcome indeed Chopper!
Well 'Child, I must say that one of the very best things about Priest music is that there is no profanity. Apart from the "Ripper" years, Priest simply takes the "high road" when it comes to song writing and I applaud them for it. Such a needless, mindless way to communicate! It is bad enough that one chooses to use obscene language as a means of expression but when a "song writer" has to use it for posterity I find it appalling.

Unfortunately, that is the way it is with most of today's "music". It seems that the only way they can write a song is if it has a profanity laced verse or ten in it. So sad. So lame. disgusting.

devils_child wrote:

I'm feelin' for you Freeze....listening to that tripe. If it was me i would have flung that CD out the window ages ago, then claimed to know nothing about its whereabouts. But i guess when your married you gotta make sacrifices. HA!
Ah yes, let's put profanity in our music so it appeals to all the disenchanted youth. So lame. I hope to God that the kids hearing that stuff don't think its acceptable to talk to a woman... in fact anyone like that. It's terrible.

Deep Freeze wrote:

HA!!!!!!!!!! Exactly! I guess I use Kid Rock as an example because the Princess recently bought his "new" CD and plays it constantly. She thinks it is just great. Well, I have had the unfortunate opportunity to hear many of the tracks and it is really sad. He steals music from past artists and writes nonsense and people buy it up. There is one track where he decalres to an ex-girlfriend that she has made a terrible mistake in hurting him because he is a "song writer" and he is going to "get" her with his "music". The track then becomes some half-assed country-like tune with an enormous amount of babble. Nothing substantial to it at all. I guess it all comes down to selling albums. I have noticed that he declares this very thing in MANY of his "songs". He is GREAT because he SELLS albums, followed by a barage of profanity that apparently proves he is "cool" and an "artist".

devils_child wrote:

LMFAO.... Kid Rock... I hear you on all of what you just posted there. Now there's no wondering why this 20 year old chick listens to music that was made before she was born... Because look at the modern alternatives. The only stuff that i have taken any intrest in is *surprise* Modern British Rock music... that's because they write and actually perform their own stuff.
And i can't take anymore of this "remixing" and "sampling" of older tracks which as you said new "artists" re-package as their own. It has nothing to do with paying tribute to the original writers, but more or less them just trying to make a buck of someone elses hard work.

Deep Freeze wrote:

I think you have "hit the nail on the head", as it were. Judas Priest remain relevant after almost 40 years of making music in a genre that has been declared countless times AND does not enjoy nearly the following it did during its "heyday".

Music today is very limited. There are many very talented musicians but there are far more "entertainers". Unfortunately, most of the latter try to portray themselves as "musicians" or "writers", all very disingenuously I might add. I hate to pound on one guy but, take Kid Rock as an example. He claims, quite boisterously, to be a "song writer". Somehow, he believes that if he records or plays someone else's written music, changes a stanza and then "writes" a few lyrics, he is a "musician". This seems to be the way many of the more popular entertainers think. The art of actual song writing is lost. Not by all, mind you! there are still many very talented writers!

Bands like Priest are who they are because they are truly talented. I am not saying that it takes NO talent to copy someone else's work and make millions selling it as your own. Far from it. I think it is incredibly bright of a guy with VERY limited talent to take advantage of a buying public that simply has NO clue.

[Deep Freeze] Saturday, October 25, 2008 1:14:36 PM

Yes, welcome indeed Chopper!
Well 'Child, I must say that one of the very best things about Priest music is that there is no profanity. Apart from the "Ripper" years, Priest simply takes the "high road" when it comes to song writing and I applaud them for it. Such a needless, mindless way to communicate! It is bad enough that one chooses to use obscene language as a means of expression but when a "song writer" has to use it for posterity I find it appalling.

Unfortunately, that is the way it is with most of today's "music". It seems that the only way they can write a song is if it has a profanity laced verse or ten in it. So sad. So lame. disgusting.[Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by devils_child from Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:12:36 AM)

devils_child wrote:

I'm feelin' for you Freeze....listening to that tripe. If it was me i would have flung that CD out the window ages ago, then claimed to know nothing about its whereabouts. But i guess when your married you gotta make sacrifices. HA!
Ah yes, let's put profanity in our music so it appeals to all the disenchanted youth. So lame. I hope to God that the kids hearing that stuff don't think its acceptable to talk to a woman... in fact anyone like that. It's terrible.

Deep Freeze wrote:

HA!!!!!!!!!! Exactly! I guess I use Kid Rock as an example because the Princess recently bought his "new" CD and plays it constantly. She thinks it is just great. Well, I have had the unfortunate opportunity to hear many of the tracks and it is really sad. He steals music from past artists and writes nonsense and people buy it up. There is one track where he decalres to an ex-girlfriend that she has made a terrible mistake in hurting him because he is a "song writer" and he is going to "get" her with his "music". The track then becomes some half-assed country-like tune with an enormous amount of babble. Nothing substantial to it at all. I guess it all comes down to selling albums. I have noticed that he declares this very thing in MANY of his "songs". He is GREAT because he SELLS albums, followed by a barage of profanity that apparently proves he is "cool" and an "artist".

devils_child wrote:

LMFAO.... Kid Rock... I hear you on all of what you just posted there. Now there's no wondering why this 20 year old chick listens to music that was made before she was born... Because look at the modern alternatives. The only stuff that i have taken any intrest in is *surprise* Modern British Rock music... that's because they write and actually perform their own stuff.
And i can't take anymore of this "remixing" and "sampling" of older tracks which as you said new "artists" re-package as their own. It has nothing to do with paying tribute to the original writers, but more or less them just trying to make a buck of someone elses hard work.

Deep Freeze wrote:

I think you have "hit the nail on the head", as it were. Judas Priest remain relevant after almost 40 years of making music in a genre that has been declared countless times AND does not enjoy nearly the following it did during its "heyday".

Music today is very limited. There are many very talented musicians but there are far more "entertainers". Unfortunately, most of the latter try to portray themselves as "musicians" or "writers", all very disingenuously I might add. I hate to pound on one guy but, take Kid Rock as an example. He claims, quite boisterously, to be a "song writer". Somehow, he believes that if he records or plays someone else's written music, changes a stanza and then "writes" a few lyrics, he is a "musician". This seems to be the way many of the more popular entertainers think. The art of actual song writing is lost. Not by all, mind you! there are still many very talented writers!

Bands like Priest are who they are because they are truly talented. I am not saying that it takes NO talent to copy someone else's work and make millions selling it as your own. Far from it. I think it is incredibly bright of a guy with VERY limited talent to take advantage of a buying public that simply has NO clue.

[mmmmmm] Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:15:23 PM

Welcome Chopper --you are among the BEST fans a band could have !!
I agree --when Rob came out on Priest Live I thought WHOA --that's not our metal od but I enjoy listening to it none the less---he still sung the hell out of those songs though[Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by chopper from Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:12:28 PM)

chopper wrote:

Hello everyone,new member,first post,love the priest,favourite all time band hands down!!!!Turbo was a bit of a shock to me with the new sound and all.it took some time to get into some songs,turbo,reckless and out in the cold get played from time to time with proper amperage, the rest rarely.the turbo tour opened with out in the cold rob wearing a 3 quarter flashy leather coat,hips swaying and not looking like the metal god he is!the show kicked ass just the same.i guess turbo was priest trying something new and a more commercialized,glad that phase is over. time to go and blast some classic priest! peace.

[chopper] Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:12:28 PM

Hello everyone,new member,first post,love the priest,favourite all time band hands down!!!!Turbo was a bit of a shock to me with the new sound and all.it took some time to get into some songs,turbo,reckless and out in the cold get played from time to time with proper amperage, the rest rarely.the turbo tour opened with out in the cold rob wearing a 3 quarter flashy leather coat,hips swaying and not looking like the metal god he is!the show kicked ass just the same.i guess turbo was priest trying something new and a more commercialized,glad that phase is over. time to go and blast some classic priest! peace.

[devils_child] Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:12:36 AM

I'm feelin' for you Freeze....listening to that tripe. If it was me i would have flung that CD out the window ages ago, then claimed to know nothing about its whereabouts. But i guess when your married you gotta make sacrifices. HA!
Ah yes, let's put profanity in our music so it appeals to all the disenchanted youth. So lame. I hope to God that the kids hearing that stuff don't think its acceptable to talk to a woman... in fact anyone like that. It's terrible.[Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:02:53 AM)

Deep Freeze wrote:

HA!!!!!!!!!! Exactly! I guess I use Kid Rock as an example because the Princess recently bought his "new" CD and plays it constantly. She thinks it is just great. Well, I have had the unfortunate opportunity to hear many of the tracks and it is really sad. He steals music from past artists and writes nonsense and people buy it up. There is one track where he decalres to an ex-girlfriend that she has made a terrible mistake in hurting him because he is a "song writer" and he is going to "get" her with his "music". The track then becomes some half-assed country-like tune with an enormous amount of babble. Nothing substantial to it at all. I guess it all comes down to selling albums. I have noticed that he declares this very thing in MANY of his "songs". He is GREAT because he SELLS albums, followed by a barage of profanity that apparently proves he is "cool" and an "artist".

devils_child wrote:

LMFAO.... Kid Rock... I hear you on all of what you just posted there. Now there's no wondering why this 20 year old chick listens to music that was made before she was born... Because look at the modern alternatives. The only stuff that i have taken any intrest in is *surprise* Modern British Rock music... that's because they write and actually perform their own stuff.
And i can't take anymore of this "remixing" and "sampling" of older tracks which as you said new "artists" re-package as their own. It has nothing to do with paying tribute to the original writers, but more or less them just trying to make a buck of someone elses hard work.

Deep Freeze wrote:

I think you have "hit the nail on the head", as it were. Judas Priest remain relevant after almost 40 years of making music in a genre that has been declared countless times AND does not enjoy nearly the following it did during its "heyday".

Music today is very limited. There are many very talented musicians but there are far more "entertainers". Unfortunately, most of the latter try to portray themselves as "musicians" or "writers", all very disingenuously I might add. I hate to pound on one guy but, take Kid Rock as an example. He claims, quite boisterously, to be a "song writer". Somehow, he believes that if he records or plays someone else's written music, changes a stanza and then "writes" a few lyrics, he is a "musician". This seems to be the way many of the more popular entertainers think. The art of actual song writing is lost. Not by all, mind you! there are still many very talented writers!

Bands like Priest are who they are because they are truly talented. I am not saying that it takes NO talent to copy someone else's work and make millions selling it as your own. Far from it. I think it is incredibly bright of a guy with VERY limited talent to take advantage of a buying public that simply has NO clue.

[Deep Freeze] Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:02:53 AM

HA!!!!!!!!!! Exactly! I guess I use Kid Rock as an example because the Princess recently bought his "new" CD and plays it constantly. She thinks it is just great. Well, I have had the unfortunate opportunity to hear many of the tracks and it is really sad. He steals music from past artists and writes nonsense and people buy it up. There is one track where he decalres to an ex-girlfriend that she has made a terrible mistake in hurting him because he is a "song writer" and he is going to "get" her with his "music". The track then becomes some half-assed country-like tune with an enormous amount of babble. Nothing substantial to it at all. I guess it all comes down to selling albums. I have noticed that he declares this very thing in MANY of his "songs". He is GREAT because he SELLS albums, followed by a barage of profanity that apparently proves he is "cool" and an "artist".[Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by devils_child from Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:54:41 AM)

devils_child wrote:

LMFAO.... Kid Rock... I hear you on all of what you just posted there. Now there's no wondering why this 20 year old chick listens to music that was made before she was born... Because look at the modern alternatives. The only stuff that i have taken any intrest in is *surprise* Modern British Rock music... that's because they write and actually perform their own stuff.
And i can't take anymore of this "remixing" and "sampling" of older tracks which as you said new "artists" re-package as their own. It has nothing to do with paying tribute to the original writers, but more or less them just trying to make a buck of someone elses hard work.

Deep Freeze wrote:

I think you have "hit the nail on the head", as it were. Judas Priest remain relevant after almost 40 years of making music in a genre that has been declared countless times AND does not enjoy nearly the following it did during its "heyday".

Music today is very limited. There are many very talented musicians but there are far more "entertainers". Unfortunately, most of the latter try to portray themselves as "musicians" or "writers", all very disingenuously I might add. I hate to pound on one guy but, take Kid Rock as an example. He claims, quite boisterously, to be a "song writer". Somehow, he believes that if he records or plays someone else's written music, changes a stanza and then "writes" a few lyrics, he is a "musician". This seems to be the way many of the more popular entertainers think. The art of actual song writing is lost. Not by all, mind you! there are still many very talented writers!

Bands like Priest are who they are because they are truly talented. I am not saying that it takes NO talent to copy someone else's work and make millions selling it as your own. Far from it. I think it is incredibly bright of a guy with VERY limited talent to take advantage of a buying public that simply has NO clue.

[devils_child] Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:54:41 AM

LMFAO.... Kid Rock... I hear you on all of what you just posted there. Now there's no wondering why this 20 year old chick listens to music that was made before she was born... Because look at the modern alternatives. The only stuff that i have taken any intrest in is *surprise* Modern British Rock music... that's because they write and actually perform their own stuff.
And i can't take anymore of this "remixing" and "sampling" of older tracks which as you said new "artists" re-package as their own. It has nothing to do with paying tribute to the original writers, but more or less them just trying to make a buck of someone elses hard work.[Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:45:41 AM)

Deep Freeze wrote:

I think you have "hit the nail on the head", as it were. Judas Priest remain relevant after almost 40 years of making music in a genre that has been declared countless times AND does not enjoy nearly the following it did during its "heyday".

Music today is very limited. There are many very talented musicians but there are far more "entertainers". Unfortunately, most of the latter try to portray themselves as "musicians" or "writers", all very disingenuously I might add. I hate to pound on one guy but, take Kid Rock as an example. He claims, quite boisterously, to be a "song writer". Somehow, he believes that if he records or plays someone else's written music, changes a stanza and then "writes" a few lyrics, he is a "musician". This seems to be the way many of the more popular entertainers think. The art of actual song writing is lost. Not by all, mind you! there are still many very talented writers!

Bands like Priest are who they are because they are truly talented. I am not saying that it takes NO talent to copy someone else's work and make millions selling it as your own. Far from it. I think it is incredibly bright of a guy with VERY limited talent to take advantage of a buying public that simply has NO clue.

[Deep Freeze] Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:45:41 AM

I think you have "hit the nail on the head", as it were. Judas Priest remain relevant after almost 40 years of making music in a genre that has been declared countless times AND does not enjoy nearly the following it did during its "heyday".

Music today is very limited. There are many very talented musicians but there are far more "entertainers". Unfortunately, most of the latter try to portray themselves as "musicians" or "writers", all very disingenuously I might add. I hate to pound on one guy but, take Kid Rock as an example. He claims, quite boisterously, to be a "song writer". Somehow, he believes that if he records or plays someone else's written music, changes a stanza and then "writes" a few lyrics, he is a "musician". This seems to be the way many of the more popular entertainers think. The art of actual song writing is lost. Not by all, mind you! there are still many very talented writers!

Bands like Priest are who they are because they are truly talented. I am not saying that it takes NO talent to copy someone else's work and make millions selling it as your own. Far from it. I think it is incredibly bright of a guy with VERY limited talent to take advantage of a buying public that simply has NO clue.

[devils_child] Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:34:04 AM

Yeah, i wasn't yet born when this album came out, so it's all retrospective for me. But hey, gotta admit, if anyone's going to do hair metal and kick it's arse... it's gotta be Priest. i know when i first heard Painkiller and thought about the 2 albums that preceeded it i wondered.... what the hell would have happened to the fans that fell into Priest through Turbo?. I guess it would have been another shock.
Which i have learned it was Priest are good at. Just when you think they have a formula... they go and pull something else out. It's great! It stops the band going stale. Even though it can be a bit hit and miss sometimes. It keeps the band intresting. I know it keeps me guessing as a fan (What on earth are they going to do next?) I have so much respect for the way they conduct themselves as musicians. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:18:07 AM)

Deep Freeze wrote:

Yes, I agree. I think people have this tendancy to equate success with sell out too often. British Steel was a landmark album for the Band, It took them to the next level. Turbo was a reflection of the times. Look at their outfits and their hair and whatnot during the Turbo tour. All very "hair band". Well, Rob tried at least! HA!!!! I do not think of Turbo as a sell out. I believe the Band simply did an album which reflected the music of that period.

Edited at: Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:34:39 AM

[Deep Freeze] Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:18:07 AM

Yes, I agree. I think people have this tendancy to equate success with sell out too often. British Steel was a landmark album for the Band, It took them to the next level. Turbo was a reflection of the times. Look at their outfits and their hair and whatnot during the Turbo tour. All very "hair band". Well, Rob tried at least! HA!!!! I do not think of Turbo as a sell out. I believe the Band simply did an album which reflected the music of that period.

[devils_child] Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:12:58 AM

I had heard it was their breakthough album, but i had just heard around the traps some people knocking it. I did get into a lengthy debate about it with one particular person. Myself, i love British Steel. It's definately a Heavy Metal Classic album. I think so many bands to follow took inspiration from it. And i also have to add, it's another one of those albums where you just don't find yourself skipping any of the tracks. They're all brilliant.[Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:00:46 AM)

Deep Freeze wrote:

Well said, 'Child. You're right, In fact, I rarely listen to it either. As for British Steel, I think it had as much or even MORE impact than Painkiller. British Steel made the Band as far as metal goes. It took them to the next level and I will explain this;

In 1979, I went to see Priest before BS. Unleashed was starting to create a tremendous amount of interest in the Band. I went to a place in So Cal called the Long Beach arena. The thing is, when we got in and sat down, I realized that they had partitioned off half the venue. Also, the seats that remained were NOT filled. They could not even fill HALF of an arena. When they released British Steel, they began packing places. From there, it grew.

If I were to pick one album that has meant the most to the Band, it would be British Steel. That album did more for them than any other.

devils_child wrote:

Amen to that! I don't hate it either, but it doesn't leave the CD rack too often. I just feel it's too generic. Myself am a huge fan of the 70's era Priest albums... I love the 80's, and i think lots would say that was when they were in their prime, but i just can't get past Sad Wings, Sin After Sin, Stained Class and Hell Bent... I think they were the golden years!
I have heard a few people knock British Steel for being too commercial and mainstream... what do you think?

Oh and i love Nostradamus... i will not knock that. It's JP going out of their main formula to make something unique and it definately does not dissapoint this here fan.

Deep Freeze wrote:

Well 'Child, you may very well be right. Perhaps it was a "sell out". I was not with the Band and I cannot speak for them and their intentions but I will say this; it is really not uncommon for a band to do a song or an album which reflects the musical atmosphere of that time period. Most great bands have done this. I recall Queen doing a "punk" song on News of the World. This was their professional "wink" at the genre and its popularity. It did not make me dislike them at all. In fact, when a band is capable of writing outside of their comfort zone and still find that they are able to remain relevant, I find that it speaks to the ability that band really has. Moreover, I do not believe the Band was in any danger of going "broke" and did Turbo as a way to pay a past due mortgage or two!

All in all, I do not "hate" Turbo. It certainly is not my favorite but I do not hate it, It may not be "classic" Priest, but it is OK. Look at all the buzz surrounding Nostradamus. It does not mean the Band has lost a step or that they are losing anything musically. It is just another part of a larger creation that is Judas Priest,

devils_child wrote:

LMFAO!! I reckon.... Turbo hardly leaves the CD rack let alone the house. Sorry but it's too weak - it was THE sell out album.. I can see why alot of people stopped listening to them at this (album) point... It's so flat, dull, unintelligent.. The lyrics are so simple... I think the guys got lazy or something when writting for this album. Even Robs singing lacks any real energy... where's the screams???? and the low pitched singing??? 'Turbo lover' he sings on one note for most of it. There's nothing epic about this album.
And those of you who got into Priest through this album... please tell me what other bands were you listening to at this point... seriously i'm intrested to know. Because this album does not represent was Priest was about for the 10+ years prior - This album was made clearly to sell to the audience that their music should never have appealed to and never had until Turbo. Basically in two words.... Sell Out.

I will add that, yes i do appreciate Turbo's place in history, but it's certainly not one i play often.

ronhartsell wrote:

Hey there Scorpion, how ya been?......I have to laugh with you 'cause I feel the same way...they just totally missed the mark with me on those two songs...NEVER EVER could I be caught jamming in the car at a red light with that on full blast!!......I love these guys as much as any fan could, and Turbo has it's place in Priest history...but the CD never leaves the house

scorpion01 wrote:

I WAS LISTENING TO TURBO AGAIN TODAY. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE THINKING AND WHERE THEY WERE COMING FROM WHEN THEY PUT "PRIVATE PROPERTY" AND "PARENTAL GUIDACE" ON THE ALBUM. THEY ARE PROBABLY TWO OF THE THREE PREIST SONGS I CAN DO WITHOUT. "ON THE RUN BEING THE OTHER". REPLACE THOSE TWO SONGS WITH 2 OTHER SOLD SONGS AND I THINK TURBO IS A STRONG ALBUM.

[Deep Freeze] Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:00:46 AM

Well said, 'Child. You're right, In fact, I rarely listen to it either. As for British Steel, I think it had as much or even MORE impact than Painkiller. British Steel made the Band as far as metal goes. It took them to the next level and I will explain this;

In 1979, I went to see Priest before BS. Unleashed was starting to create a tremendous amount of interest in the Band. I went to a place in So Cal called the Long Beach arena. The thing is, when we got in and sat down, I realized that they had partitioned off half the venue. Also, the seats that remained were NOT filled. They could not even fill HALF of an arena. When they released British Steel, they began packing places. From there, it grew.

If I were to pick one album that has meant the most to the Band, it would be British Steel. That album did more for them than any other.[Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by devils_child from Saturday, October 25, 2008 7:50:02 AM)

devils_child wrote:

Amen to that! I don't hate it either, but it doesn't leave the CD rack too often. I just feel it's too generic. Myself am a huge fan of the 70's era Priest albums... I love the 80's, and i think lots would say that was when they were in their prime, but i just can't get past Sad Wings, Sin After Sin, Stained Class and Hell Bent... I think they were the golden years!
I have heard a few people knock British Steel for being too commercial and mainstream... what do you think?

Oh and i love Nostradamus... i will not knock that. It's JP going out of their main formula to make something unique and it definately does not dissapoint this here fan.

Deep Freeze wrote:

Well 'Child, you may very well be right. Perhaps it was a "sell out". I was not with the Band and I cannot speak for them and their intentions but I will say this; it is really not uncommon for a band to do a song or an album which reflects the musical atmosphere of that time period. Most great bands have done this. I recall Queen doing a "punk" song on News of the World. This was their professional "wink" at the genre and its popularity. It did not make me dislike them at all. In fact, when a band is capable of writing outside of their comfort zone and still find that they are able to remain relevant, I find that it speaks to the ability that band really has. Moreover, I do not believe the Band was in any danger of going "broke" and did Turbo as a way to pay a past due mortgage or two!

All in all, I do not "hate" Turbo. It certainly is not my favorite but I do not hate it, It may not be "classic" Priest, but it is OK. Look at all the buzz surrounding Nostradamus. It does not mean the Band has lost a step or that they are losing anything musically. It is just another part of a larger creation that is Judas Priest,

devils_child wrote:

LMFAO!! I reckon.... Turbo hardly leaves the CD rack let alone the house. Sorry but it's too weak - it was THE sell out album.. I can see why alot of people stopped listening to them at this (album) point... It's so flat, dull, unintelligent.. The lyrics are so simple... I think the guys got lazy or something when writting for this album. Even Robs singing lacks any real energy... where's the screams???? and the low pitched singing??? 'Turbo lover' he sings on one note for most of it. There's nothing epic about this album.
And those of you who got into Priest through this album... please tell me what other bands were you listening to at this point... seriously i'm intrested to know. Because this album does not represent was Priest was about for the 10+ years prior - This album was made clearly to sell to the audience that their music should never have appealed to and never had until Turbo. Basically in two words.... Sell Out.

I will add that, yes i do appreciate Turbo's place in history, but it's certainly not one i play often.

ronhartsell wrote:

Hey there Scorpion, how ya been?......I have to laugh with you 'cause I feel the same way...they just totally missed the mark with me on those two songs...NEVER EVER could I be caught jamming in the car at a red light with that on full blast!!......I love these guys as much as any fan could, and Turbo has it's place in Priest history...but the CD never leaves the house

scorpion01 wrote:

I WAS LISTENING TO TURBO AGAIN TODAY. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE THINKING AND WHERE THEY WERE COMING FROM WHEN THEY PUT "PRIVATE PROPERTY" AND "PARENTAL GUIDACE" ON THE ALBUM. THEY ARE PROBABLY TWO OF THE THREE PREIST SONGS I CAN DO WITHOUT. "ON THE RUN BEING THE OTHER". REPLACE THOSE TWO SONGS WITH 2 OTHER SOLD SONGS AND I THINK TURBO IS A STRONG ALBUM.

[devils_child] Saturday, October 25, 2008 7:50:02 AM

Amen to that! I don't hate it either, but it doesn't leave the CD rack too often. I just feel it's too generic. Myself am a huge fan of the 70's era Priest albums... I love the 80's, and i think lots would say that was when they were in their prime, but i just can't get past Sad Wings, Sin After Sin, Stained Class and Hell Bent... I think they were the golden years!
I have heard a few people knock British Steel for being too commercial and mainstream... what do you think?

Oh and i love Nostradamus... i will not knock that. It's JP going out of their main formula to make something unique and it definately does not dissapoint this here fan.

Well 'Child, you may very well be right. Perhaps it was a "sell out". I was not with the Band and I cannot speak for them and their intentions but I will say this; it is really not uncommon for a band to do a song or an album which reflects the musical atmosphere of that time period. Most great bands have done this. I recall Queen doing a "punk" song on News of the World. This was their professional "wink" at the genre and its popularity. It did not make me dislike them at all. In fact, when a band is capable of writing outside of their comfort zone and still find that they are able to remain relevant, I find that it speaks to the ability that band really has. Moreover, I do not believe the Band was in any danger of going "broke" and did Turbo as a way to pay a past due mortgage or two!

All in all, I do not "hate" Turbo. It certainly is not my favorite but I do not hate it, It may not be "classic" Priest, but it is OK. Look at all the buzz surrounding Nostradamus. It does not mean the Band has lost a step or that they are losing anything musically. It is just another part of a larger creation that is Judas Priest,

devils_child wrote:

LMFAO!! I reckon.... Turbo hardly leaves the CD rack let alone the house. Sorry but it's too weak - it was THE sell out album.. I can see why alot of people stopped listening to them at this (album) point... It's so flat, dull, unintelligent.. The lyrics are so simple... I think the guys got lazy or something when writting for this album. Even Robs singing lacks any real energy... where's the screams???? and the low pitched singing??? 'Turbo lover' he sings on one note for most of it. There's nothing epic about this album.
And those of you who got into Priest through this album... please tell me what other bands were you listening to at this point... seriously i'm intrested to know. Because this album does not represent was Priest was about for the 10+ years prior - This album was made clearly to sell to the audience that their music should never have appealed to and never had until Turbo. Basically in two words.... Sell Out.

I will add that, yes i do appreciate Turbo's place in history, but it's certainly not one i play often.

ronhartsell wrote:

Hey there Scorpion, how ya been?......I have to laugh with you 'cause I feel the same way...they just totally missed the mark with me on those two songs...NEVER EVER could I be caught jamming in the car at a red light with that on full blast!!......I love these guys as much as any fan could, and Turbo has it's place in Priest history...but the CD never leaves the house

scorpion01 wrote:

I WAS LISTENING TO TURBO AGAIN TODAY. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE THINKING AND WHERE THEY WERE COMING FROM WHEN THEY PUT "PRIVATE PROPERTY" AND "PARENTAL GUIDACE" ON THE ALBUM. THEY ARE PROBABLY TWO OF THE THREE PREIST SONGS I CAN DO WITHOUT. "ON THE RUN BEING THE OTHER". REPLACE THOSE TWO SONGS WITH 2 OTHER SOLD SONGS AND I THINK TURBO IS A STRONG ALBUM.

[Deep Freeze] Saturday, October 25, 2008 7:41:05 AM

Well 'Child, you may very well be right. Perhaps it was a "sell out". I was not with the Band and I cannot speak for them and their intentions but I will say this; it is really not uncommon for a band to do a song or an album which reflects the musical atmosphere of that time period. Most great bands have done this. I recall Queen doing a "punk" song on News of the World. This was their professional "wink" at the genre and its popularity. It did not make me dislike them at all. In fact, when a band is capable of writing outside of their comfort zone and still find that they are able to remain relevant, I find that it speaks to the ability that band really has. Moreover, I do not believe the Band was in any danger of going "broke" and did Turbo as a way to pay a past due mortgage or two!

All in all, I do not "hate" Turbo. It certainly is not my favorite but I do not hate it, It may not be "classic" Priest, but it is OK. Look at all the buzz surrounding Nostradamus. It does not mean the Band has lost a step or that they are losing anything musically. It is just another part of a larger creation that is Judas Priest,[Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by devils_child from Saturday, October 25, 2008 7:24:23 AM)

devils_child wrote:

LMFAO!! I reckon.... Turbo hardly leaves the CD rack let alone the house. Sorry but it's too weak - it was THE sell out album.. I can see why alot of people stopped listening to them at this (album) point... It's so flat, dull, unintelligent.. The lyrics are so simple... I think the guys got lazy or something when writting for this album. Even Robs singing lacks any real energy... where's the screams???? and the low pitched singing??? 'Turbo lover' he sings on one note for most of it. There's nothing epic about this album.
And those of you who got into Priest through this album... please tell me what other bands were you listening to at this point... seriously i'm intrested to know. Because this album does not represent was Priest was about for the 10+ years prior - This album was made clearly to sell to the audience that their music should never have appealed to and never had until Turbo. Basically in two words.... Sell Out.

I will add that, yes i do appreciate Turbo's place in history, but it's certainly not one i play often.

ronhartsell wrote:

Hey there Scorpion, how ya been?......I have to laugh with you 'cause I feel the same way...they just totally missed the mark with me on those two songs...NEVER EVER could I be caught jamming in the car at a red light with that on full blast!!......I love these guys as much as any fan could, and Turbo has it's place in Priest history...but the CD never leaves the house

scorpion01 wrote:

I WAS LISTENING TO TURBO AGAIN TODAY. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE THINKING AND WHERE THEY WERE COMING FROM WHEN THEY PUT "PRIVATE PROPERTY" AND "PARENTAL GUIDACE" ON THE ALBUM. THEY ARE PROBABLY TWO OF THE THREE PREIST SONGS I CAN DO WITHOUT. "ON THE RUN BEING THE OTHER". REPLACE THOSE TWO SONGS WITH 2 OTHER SOLD SONGS AND I THINK TURBO IS A STRONG ALBUM.

[mmmmmm] Saturday, October 25, 2008 7:28:06 AM

I agree Devil's Child--it was their weaker one ---when you sandwich it between their other METAL cd's it lacks something in comparison BUT being the big Priest fan I am --I still listen to it --not all the songs but a good portion of it[Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by devils_child from Saturday, October 25, 2008 7:24:23 AM)

devils_child wrote:

LMFAO!! I reckon.... Turbo hardly leaves the CD rack let alone the house. Sorry but it's too weak - it was THE sell out album.. I can see why alot of people stopped listening to them at this (album) point... It's so flat, dull, unintelligent.. The lyrics are so simple... I think the guys got lazy or something when writting for this album. Even Robs singing lacks any real energy... where's the screams???? and the low pitched singing??? 'Turbo lover' he sings on one note for most of it. There's nothing epic about this album.
And those of you who got into Priest through this album... please tell me what other bands were you listening to at this point... seriously i'm intrested to know. Because this album does not represent was Priest was about for the 10+ years prior - This album was made clearly to sell to the audience that their music should never have appealed to and never had until Turbo. Basically in two words.... Sell Out.

I will add that, yes i do appreciate Turbo's place in history, but it's certainly not one i play often.

ronhartsell wrote:

Hey there Scorpion, how ya been?......I have to laugh with you 'cause I feel the same way...they just totally missed the mark with me on those two songs...NEVER EVER could I be caught jamming in the car at a red light with that on full blast!!......I love these guys as much as any fan could, and Turbo has it's place in Priest history...but the CD never leaves the house

scorpion01 wrote:

I WAS LISTENING TO TURBO AGAIN TODAY. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE THINKING AND WHERE THEY WERE COMING FROM WHEN THEY PUT "PRIVATE PROPERTY" AND "PARENTAL GUIDACE" ON THE ALBUM. THEY ARE PROBABLY TWO OF THE THREE PREIST SONGS I CAN DO WITHOUT. "ON THE RUN BEING THE OTHER". REPLACE THOSE TWO SONGS WITH 2 OTHER SOLD SONGS AND I THINK TURBO IS A STRONG ALBUM.

[devils_child] Saturday, October 25, 2008 7:24:23 AM

LMFAO!! I reckon.... Turbo hardly leaves the CD rack let alone the house. Sorry but it's too weak - it was THE sell out album.. I can see why alot of people stopped listening to them at this (album) point... It's so flat, dull, unintelligent.. The lyrics are so simple... I think the guys got lazy or something when writting for this album. Even Robs singing lacks any real energy... where's the screams???? and the low pitched singing??? 'Turbo lover' he sings on one note for most of it. There's nothing epic about this album.
And those of you who got into Priest through this album... please tell me what other bands were you listening to at this point... seriously i'm intrested to know. Because this album does not represent was Priest was about for the 10+ years prior - This album was made clearly to sell to the audience that their music should never have appealed to and never had until Turbo. Basically in two words.... Sell Out.

I will add that, yes i do appreciate Turbo's place in history, but it's certainly not one i play often.[Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Saturday, October 25, 2008 6:25:02 AM)

ronhartsell wrote:

Hey there Scorpion, how ya been?......I have to laugh with you 'cause I feel the same way...they just totally missed the mark with me on those two songs...NEVER EVER could I be caught jamming in the car at a red light with that on full blast!!......I love these guys as much as any fan could, and Turbo has it's place in Priest history...but the CD never leaves the house

scorpion01 wrote:

I WAS LISTENING TO TURBO AGAIN TODAY. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE THINKING AND WHERE THEY WERE COMING FROM WHEN THEY PUT "PRIVATE PROPERTY" AND "PARENTAL GUIDACE" ON THE ALBUM. THEY ARE PROBABLY TWO OF THE THREE PREIST SONGS I CAN DO WITHOUT. "ON THE RUN BEING THE OTHER". REPLACE THOSE TWO SONGS WITH 2 OTHER SOLD SONGS AND I THINK TURBO IS A STRONG ALBUM.

[Vinther] Saturday, October 25, 2008 6:34:57 AM

I think Turbo is a very weak album, I only like Turbo Lover and Out in the Cold from that album.

[ron h] Saturday, October 25, 2008 6:25:02 AM

Hey there Scorpion, how ya been?......I have to laugh with you 'cause I feel the same way...they just totally missed the mark with me on those two songs...NEVER EVER could I be caught jamming in the car at a red light with that on full blast!!......I love these guys as much as any fan could, and Turbo has it's place in Priest history...but the CD never leaves the house [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by scorpion01 from Friday, October 24, 2008 11:38:00 PM)

scorpion01 wrote:

I WAS LISTENING TO TURBO AGAIN TODAY. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE THINKING AND WHERE THEY WERE COMING FROM WHEN THEY PUT "PRIVATE PROPERTY" AND "PARENTAL GUIDACE" ON THE ALBUM. THEY ARE PROBABLY TWO OF THE THREE PREIST SONGS I CAN DO WITHOUT. "ON THE RUN BEING THE OTHER". REPLACE THOSE TWO SONGS WITH 2 OTHER SOLD SONGS AND I THINK TURBO IS A STRONG ALBUM.

[scorpion01] Friday, October 24, 2008 11:38:00 PM

I WAS LISTENING TO TURBO AGAIN TODAY. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE THINKING AND WHERE THEY WERE COMING FROM WHEN THEY PUT "PRIVATE PROPERTY" AND "PARENTAL GUIDACE" ON THE ALBUM. THEY ARE PROBABLY TWO OF THE THREE PREIST SONGS I CAN DO WITHOUT. "ON THE RUN BEING THE OTHER". REPLACE THOSE TWO SONGS WITH 2 OTHER SOLD SONGS AND I THINK TURBO IS A STRONG ALBUM.

[Udo Sapper] Friday, October 24, 2008 4:51:47 PM

Priest has always been innovative and they always have done what they wanted to do.

I love Turbo Lover but the whole record is just to mainstream for me. I didn't like the singalong tunes like Parental Guidance - I had already surpassed that age by then...

Not to be technical But it was only 2 years! defenders 84! Turbo 86! to much of a good time! LOL![Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by mattern0805 from Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:21:44 PM)

mattern0805 wrote:

I recall waiting four years between Defenders and the release of Turbo, both my friend and I were totally stoked when we heard that Priest was coming out with a new album and the first single, "Locked In" was to be played on a local radio station in town. Well, I recall sitting vigilantly by my stereo for an hour the day the song was played. I was totally shocked by what I heard and wasn't sure if I could deal with what I was hearing, especially with songs like Parental Guidance and Private Property! Now that the years have gone by, I have to admit that this album has become a guilty pleasure and really like some of the tracks on the album. Now that I'm older, listening to this album takes me back to my high-school days, and I now have a renewed appreciation for Turbo.

[T-Dogg] Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:21:44 PM

I recall waiting four years between Defenders and the release of Turbo, both my friend and I were totally stoked when we heard that Priest was coming out with a new album and the first single, "Locked In" was to be played on a local radio station in town. Well, I recall sitting vigilantly by my stereo for an hour the day the song was played. I was totally shocked by what I heard and wasn't sure if I could deal with what I was hearing, especially with songs like Parental Guidance and Private Property! Now that the years have gone by, I have to admit that this album has become a guilty pleasure and really like some of the tracks on the album. Now that I'm older, listening to this album takes me back to my high-school days, and I now have a renewed appreciation for Turbo.

The album was the first for heavy metal band to use digital taping! since then it went south!!![Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by scorpion01 from Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:31:38 AM)

scorpion01 wrote:

LOCKED IN WAS THE FIRST SONG I HEARD OFF TURBO. I REMEMBER HEARING IT BACK TO BACK ON THE RADIO WITH VAN HALENS 'WHY CAN'T THIS BE LOVE'. I THOUGHT THE SONG WAS GOOD AND EXPECTED THE ALBUM TO GET HEAVIER FROM THERE. I LIKE THE ALBUM A LOT NOW, BUT REMEMBER BEING NOT SO SATISFIED BACK THEN. I FELT THE SAME WAY AFTER POINT OF ENTRY CAME OUT.

PIREST WAS OURS IT WASN'T FOR THE COMMERCIAL WORLD. PRIEST WAS TYRANT AND SINNER AND GENOCIDE, NOT DON'T GO AND PRIVATE PROPERTY.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT! THEY MADE ALL THE RIGHT MOVES AT THE RIGHT TIME. THESE ALBUMS WERE STEPPING STONES FOR WHERE THEY ARE NOW. THE GREATEST ROCK BAND OF THE LAST QUARTER OF A CENTURY. I LISTEN TO THESE ALBUMS NOW AND THEY WORK.

PRIEST DID THINGS THEIR WAY AND I'M SO VERY GLAD I CAME ALONG FOR THE RIDE. Edited at: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:32:48 AMEdited at: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:36:58 AM

[scorpion01] Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:31:38 AM

LOCKED IN WAS THE FIRST SONG I HEARD OFF TURBO. I REMEMBER HEARING IT BACK TO BACK ON THE RADIO WITH VAN HALENS 'WHY CAN'T THIS BE LOVE'. I THOUGHT THE SONG WAS GOOD AND EXPECTED THE ALBUM TO GET HEAVIER FROM THERE. I LIKE THE ALBUM A LOT NOW, BUT REMEMBER BEING NOT SO SATISFIED BACK THEN. I FELT THE SAME WAY AFTER POINT OF ENTRY CAME OUT.

PIREST WAS OURS IT WASN'T FOR THE COMMERCIAL WORLD. PRIEST WAS TYRANT AND SINNER AND GENOCIDE, NOT DON'T GO AND PRIVATE PROPERTY.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT! THEY MADE ALL THE RIGHT MOVES AT THE RIGHT TIME. THESE ALBUMS WERE STEPPING STONES FOR WHERE THEY ARE NOW. THE GREATEST ROCK BAND OF THE LAST QUARTER OF A CENTURY. I LISTEN TO THESE ALBUMS NOW AND THEY WORK.

PRIEST DID THINGS THEIR WAY AND I'M SO VERY GLAD I CAME ALONG FOR THE RIDE. Edited at: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:32:48 AMEdited at: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:36:58 AM

[ron h] Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:38:10 AM

How did I feel when Turbo was released? Do I have to be honest? I was with a buddy of mine when I picked it up (on cassette tape). My buddy didn't really care for anything heavier than Def Leppard, but after I turned him on to DOTF, he really dug it. Anyway, I put it in the player on the way back to town (couldn't wait to get home) when Turbo came on (the first track). I could NOT believe what I was hearing! I had to convince him that the same band made both albums. He never really gave Priest much of a thought after that, and I kinda lost a little "metal coolness" in his eyes for DEFENDING it (I'll forever represent Priest no matter how I feel personally about an individual song or album). I was probably more embarrassed on the inside that the METAL GODS that I loved so much totally missed the target with me. I am 21-22 years old at the time and songs like Parental Guidance and Private Property, I just couldn't relate to them. In time I have grown to appreciate the album for what it is, and it is a classic in it's own right. But that is how I felt about the Turbo album upon it's release.

A lot of parent groups shot their cause in the foot by wearing their tunnel hats so far down on their brow.
(ps ... a rare day to see you use a smiley.)

(Quoting Message by Head banger from Wednesday, July 16, 2008 1:29:45 PM)

Head banger wrote:

oh yeah, thats right, I remember the vacuum now, although, when you think about it, all vacuum's have a turbine, ergo, turbo.

a to the pmrc

Bev wrote:

I believe I read both Glenn & Ken had Porsche(s); and, Ian bought a turbo vacuum (lol) Maybe that's where the title came from. But I also read the content was an "in your face to the PMRC."
The fact that it became mainstream popular made it all the more sweeter.

Head banger wrote:

I know rob had a porche, did others? and was that it?

Bev wrote:

I began listening to JudasPriest circa BritishSteel. I love Turbo, mostly because of what I've read inspired them.

oh yeah, thats right, I remember the vacuum now, although, when you think about it, all vacuum's have a turbine, ergo, turbo.

a to the pmrc

Bev wrote:

I believe I read both Glenn & Ken had Porsche(s); and, Ian bought a turbo vacuum (lol) Maybe that's where the title came from. But I also read the content was an "in your face to the PMRC."
The fact that it became mainstream popular made it all the more sweeter.

Head banger wrote:

I know rob had a porche, did others? and was that it?

Bev wrote:

I began listening to JudasPriest circa BritishSteel. I love Turbo, mostly because of what I've read inspired them.

Edited at: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:01:38 PM

[Head banger] Wednesday, July 16, 2008 1:29:45 PM

oh yeah, thats right, I remember the vacuum now, although, when you think about it, all vacuum's have a turbine, ergo, turbo.

I believe I read both Glenn & Ken had Porsche(s); and, Ian bought a turbo vacuum (lol) Maybe that's where the title came from. But I also read the content was an "in your face to the PMRC."
The fact that it became mainstream popular made it all the more sweeter.

Head banger wrote:

I know rob had a porche, did others? and was that it?

Bev wrote:

I began listening to JudasPriest circa BritishSteel. I love Turbo, mostly because of what I've read inspired them.

[Bev] Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:16:59 PM

I believe I read both Glenn & Ken had Porsche(s); and, Ian bought a turbo vacuum (lol) Maybe that's where the title came from. But I also read the content was an "in your face to the PMRC."
The fact that it became mainstream popular made it all the more sweeter.[Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Wednesday, July 16, 2008 7:59:40 AM)

Head banger wrote:

I know rob had a porche, did others? and was that it?

Bev wrote:

I began listening to JudasPriest circa BritishSteel. I love Turbo, mostly because of what I've read inspired them.

I began listening to JudasPriest circa BritishSteel. I love Turbo, mostly because of what I've read inspired them.

[Bev] Wednesday, July 16, 2008 7:28:58 AM

I began listening to JudasPriest circa BritishSteel. I love Turbo, mostly because of what I've read inspired them.

[crypticangle] Wednesday, July 16, 2008 7:22:59 AM

I love this cd !!--Out In The Cold is one of my favorite songs ever !!--it was different & refreshing & I still listen to it everyday !!

[ganton] Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:49:38 PM

To me Turbo is one of my favourites.And yes, this record contains the best ever Judas song,OUT IN THE COLD

[Metal god/Electric eye! [Banned]] Tuesday, July 15, 2008 12:29:56 PM

Anyone feeling Reckless way otta hand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[judaspriestlass] Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:07:44 PM

I simple loved it....it was refreshingly different and tuneful. ONe of the attributes I love about JPmusic is their clarity in sound and lyrics.

[K2M] Thursday, July 10, 2008 5:48:46 PM

I agree completely. And i would like to thank you Justin. Well written, and i am glad that you Enjoy Turbo.

[Justin Kenny] Wednesday, July 09, 2008 6:14:29 PM

I remember this vividly.

I knew Priest were pretty good and finished with a new album by the early Spring of '86. I used to listen to "Finger's Metal Shop" RELIGIOUSLY for any news, updates, or...possibly, the unveiling of a new track by any band I was interested in. Finally, one Sunday night (about a week before "Turbo" was released), Fingers played "Locked In." Long before then, I'd acquired my own copies of "Sin After Sin," "Stained Class," "Unleashed In The East," "Point of Entry," "Screaming For Vengeance," and "Defenders of the Faith." So, I knew how diverse and interesting a band like Priest could be.

Upon hearing "Locked In" for the first time, I liked it, and in a way I didn't. It wasn't that I found it 'pop-ish,' necessarily, but I think the general idea (lyrically) was something I felt had been sung about to death. Usually, whenever Priest touched upon the idea of 'love' or 'lust' in any of their songs, it was dealt with in more classy, or more lascivious ways ( "Fever" and "Burnin' Up" respectively, come to mind). Musically however, the song had a good vibe, and I thought Glenn's solo takes (interspersed with KK's) were very tasty.

Well...the following week, I took my paycheck...cashed it, and went right to a music store to buy both "Turbo" and Ozzy's "The Ultimate Sin." Naturally, I listened to "Turbo" first. I felt Priest's use of the guitar synth effects were very cool...very innovative. "Turbo Lover" actually blew me away. I loved the intro...the build-up...and even though I felt the lyrics were (again) less than poetic, Rob's delivery was perfection personified. I remember after hearing Rob singing "...and then in sheer abandonment...we SHATTER, AAANND EXPLOOODE!!!" I'd let out a rather exultant, "YEH!!!" I still felt the chorus was a bit goofy...but then, I thought back to the same thoughts I had about the chorus to "You Say Yes," and I just chalked it all up to it being part and parcel of the Priest experience.

Upon hearing "Locked In" again, I was already familiar with it, and found it more enjoyable. And as the rest of the album played on, I saw Priest's attempt to broaden their horizons (as well as the horizons of us...their fans) as something of a triumph. It was at that point I learned that these British gents were not the least bit intimidated or afraid of taking chances and taking risks with the music they'd create, and I respected the absolute shit out of that.

On a related note, but more singularized..."Reckless" made me want to climb into a Harrier Jet and just start flying the sumbitch!!! Whatta track! Glenn's solo in that one is still one of my favorites of his.Edited at: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 6:19:08 PM