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I wonder how all of this will play out because it seems to me like Sasuke is going through a transformation. After all this will he still side with Tobi and force Naruto to fight him? Itachi is in a position to save Sasuke from his darkness since he know doubt has more revelations to make about Tobi, Madara and the Uchiha.

He'll still fight Naruto.

I think Sasuke believes Itachi has already paid his debt. He now understands why Itachi did what he did and Itachi's already dead so there's no real reason to be angry at him anymore. However, Sasuke has not yet expressed any regret about his involvement in Itachi's death or admitted it was a mistake to seek revenge in the first place. He blames everyone else.

Instead of admitting to himself that his anger leads nowhere, Sasuke simply shifts his rage to new targets. I don't think he'll understand how the lesson Itachi is teaching Kabuto applies to himself, or he'll refuse to see it. Probably, he won't fully realize until he fights Naruto.

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And because this is Itachi, he will never say all these outright to Sasuke. The numskull has to figure it out for himself. Good luck to you.

Which is probably pretty smart. Showing Sasuke first hand how futile and empty Kabuto's ambitions are, while at the same time admitting that even he himself had weaknesses and made mistakes. Itachi's teaching Sasuke without directly preaching to him.

After all this will he still side with Tobi and force Naruto to fight him?

He never sided with Tobi, just recently he was killing Zetsu clones and it seems also the original white Zetsu. He doesn't care about Tobi's war either. Sasuke was so overwhelmed by "hatred" that he doesn't care about anything else, including his own life.

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Itachi is in a position to save Sasuke from his darkness since he know doubt has more revelations to make about Tobi, Madara and the Uchiha.

Itachi doesn't know Tobi's true identity, and he already said to Sasuke that Tobi was the one who used the kyuubi to attack Konoha, but it didn't change anything in Sasuke's thinking. So for Sasuke to understand that his primary enemy is Tobi he should first become rational again. So i don't think that any revelations and rational reasoning can change Sasuke in his current state of mind. Itachi should use an emotional approach more than a rational one, but that's not Itachi's style, it's Naruto's style. But Itachi can begin the process, so that Naruto has something to build on.

I like how the two ninja were talking about how long the war was taking and how they wanted to get a good night's sleep. Now, am I mistaken, or isn't this only Day 2 of the war?

They were fighting non-stop for at least 24 hours, and could not sleep because the Zetsu's were killing people in the night. Sure they need some sleep, they are just average genin level ninja. Super-ninja like the akatsuki could seal Gaara for 3 days while also having 30% of their chakra fighting Naruto and co. And Deidara was also fighting Gaara before that, and fighting Kakashi and Naruto after that, and in the end even having enough energy to have some fun with Tobi disrespecting him
This manga is sheer magic

They were fighting non-stop for at least 24 hours, and could not sleep because the Zetsu's were killing people in the night. Sure they need some sleep, they are just average genin level ninja.

but that doesn't really make sense. average genin level ninja who cant stay up past 24 hours should be long dead by now or havent gotten a chance to fight yet. the only opponent aside from super power ninjas they could have fought are zetsu clones which should be able to at least handily beat genins. so who have they been fighting for so long? zetsu may not be a fighter by akatsuki's standards, but he can do a lot better than a genin. he was also powered up by kabuto prior to the fight

but that doesn't really make sense. average genin level ninja who cant stay up past 24 hours should be long dead by now or havent gotten a chance to fight yet.

I didn't say that they can't fight for 24 hours, only that they are quite tired of doing that. They represent the basic level ninja, the average Joe, sometimes they are shown as a measuring stick to show the strength and determination of the named ninjas. They make up the majority of the alliance forces.

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the only opponent aside from super power ninjas they could have fought are zetsu clones which should be able to at least handily beat genins. so who have they been fighting for so long? zetsu may not be a fighter by akatsuki's standards, but he can do a lot better than a genin. he was also powered up by kabuto prior to the fight

Well i think you are underestimating the genins, Zetsu-clones are approximately genin level, they are being destroyed like dummies by stronger named ninjas. Otherwise they would be winning the war, but what we see now is that the whole 100,000 Zetsu army is gone by now, while the alliance still has 1/3 of their forces alive.

A Zetsu may somewhat be stronger than an average genin in 1vs1 fight, but a war is about teamwork too, genins follow chuunins and jounins, such an organization should have better results than a Zetsu army which has all the same abilities and power. By that i mean that the power of the allied army should be more than the sum of their individual powers, because of the teamwork. In the current anime episodes we see how the author wants to show us that the teamwork of Kankuro's team made the difference.

Well i think you are underestimating the genins, Zetsu-clones are approximately genin level, they are being destroyed like dummies by stronger named ninjas. Otherwise they would be winning the war, but what we see now is that the whole 100,000 Zetsu army is gone by now, while the alliance still has 1/3 of their forces alive.

I don't know. we're not talking about any normal clones here. not only do the zetsus have that spore clone that mimics chakra, but they were also grown by tobi over a long period of time from the bijou chakra. they're not like a technique that was just used by zetsu to replicate himself like normal clones. i guess i just feel like they should be more powerful than fodder that genins can handle, naruto had to use some pretty high level techniques to kill them when he arrived on the battle field, but it seems that fodder is all they are. I agree with what you said about teamwork and that is assuredly the reason kishi wants us to think for genins still being alive.

the flip side to what you're saying is that tobi would have been beaten badly if kabuto hadn't added his ET army, which i know has been brought up in the past, but just the fact that tobi's army can't wipe out all the normal genin rank ninja just makes it seem pretty weak. the only purpose seems to have been to dwindle the numbers of the allied forces, but if not for kabuto's ET, the zetsu army would have barely killed anyone since the jounin and kage level allied ninja wouldn't be pre-occupied fighting ET super ninjas. all the zetsus would have been wiped out in minutes. it doesn't really add up for me. it just seems like tobi wasted his time and bijou chakra on them and wasn't very prepared for the war

I think either Kishi or some editors made mistake or translation error.

For me it like this that Izanami was found when two Uchicha used Izanagi on themselves and got into a loop, from which they could not get out, until both of them agreed on compromise.
Hence from this incident came to live technique called Izanami, which is really not offensive one, because it is mostly Naruto^2

credits TNPS1984
Basically Itachi says as a part of the Konoha, he will die protecting it.
Sasuke says he can never forgive Konoha
Itachi used genjutsu on Kabuto to find a way to stop Edo Tensei
The 5 kages escaped from danger and Madara started to fight with full power and released the full form of Susanoo

Emoboy being dense well, was expected but still...

edit: chap is out: imho fail. Kabuto drag substituted by Madara drag with yet another cliffhanger on the edo cancel. Madara epic badass and Kage's with nice teamwork but overall feels meh to me. The feeling or urgency and will to sacrifice that should come with them fighting on despite the odds somehow didn't get to me... Spoilers had me hope for more :/