Biden, Ryan Clash In Entertaining Debate: Biden Wins The Debate, No One Wins The Anti-War Movement

Also, thank you Raddatz for teaching American journalists how to moderate again. She's a lot of the reason why this debate was fun to watch.

Now Wolf Blitzer's voice will put America to sleep...

Update 11:30 PM

Closing Statements Biden: American people, "It's gonna be ok."

Ryan's: The market will make it ok.

Update 11:20 PM

Update 11:17 PM Would Ryan extend his maxim on a child's right to life to children in Pakistan and Yemen living under drones? #avoidquestioningthemilitaryindustrialcomplextatallcosts

Update 11:13 PM Ryan lamenting the fact that we aren't still occupying Iraq again. When he says negotiate for a "status of forces" agreement, he means negotiate for prolonged occupation.

Update 11:10 PM Ryan's response: RUSSIA IS OUR GREATEST ADVESARY

Also, US troops are poised in Jordan, in response to the Syria crisis.

Update 11:08 PM

Raddatz: Why are we treating Syria differently than Libya?

Biden's response: They're different countries, Waka, Waka, Waka.

Biden's thoughts: Well Martha, one produces olive oil and the other produces crude.

Update 11:03 PMBaghdad kicked you out Biden. They've rejected training packages. They're even starting to go to Russia for weaponry. On Iraq, Biden lies -- of course Ryan doesn't have what it takes to take Biden on on this point.

Update 10:58 PMSummary of Romney ticket's position on Afghanistan according to Romney: We agree with the Administration's policy, we'd just do it differently. How would our policy differ exactly? Well we'd do it differently.

Update 10:54 PM Wow Martha Raddatz just brought up defense cuts. Taking on Ryan for his gross hypocrisy on the matter. Raddatz is a real moderator.

Update 10:51 PM Biden just said Ryan's not Jack Kennedy! Vice Presidential debate history repeats itself. And Biden's still on fire. But note neither is discussing the benefits cutting military spending pose for our fiscal problems... hmm.

Update 10:44 PM Anyone else thinking the undecided voter doodad on the bottom of the screen on CNN's debate coverage is as gross as I do?

So, why watch this debate? Watch it for the same reasons you watched all of those awful American Idol auditions back when they were in vogue -- Sure some of you may have called in and voted, but none of you were watching the trainwreck-programming for democracy's sake.

Just consider the temperaments of the individuals scheduled to engage in rhetorical combat. Ryan is a socially conservative, market-fundamentalist, "wonky," budget-cutting (except when it comes to the military-industrial-complex) fanatic, and Biden is -- well -- just a fanatic.

On Thursday night, American viewers may witness not just a debate, but a dramatic clash. Think Obi-Wan vs Darth Vader.

But if a fight does break out at Centre College, don't expect any lightsabers. Too elegant. Biden will probably opt to use a few chains instead, while Ryan may find use for his thick, hardcover copy of The Fountainhead.

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