<p dir="ltr">That's one definition of violence I think no one would agree with and demonstrates a political ignorance born of privilege; how can you deny the oppression we enact on countless third world workers through our internet? -dru</p>

<div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 11, 2013 10:11 AM, "Mitchel McAllister" <<a href="mailto:xonimmortal@yahoo.com">xonimmortal@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Violence is typically defined as physical, injurious force. I have seen no violence at Noisebridge - not even during the Scud and Chrissie soap opera.<br>
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The behavior is definitely unexcellent. It is disruptive, as in interrupting or disturbing things that are going on in the space.<br>
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--- On Wed, 4/10/13, Andrew Byrne <<a href="mailto:andrew@pachakutech.com">andrew@pachakutech.com</a>> wrote:<br>
Nope, it's most definitely a violence towards others to not speak up when Twitchy McJunkie decides to take a post-burrito nap during the physics class visit. It's also violence towards others who leave b/c we tolerate the presence of ignorant uggles with no interest in hacking or self-improvement--those who don't care when their joissance overflows into other's work space.<br>

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Don't minimize the pain... I came in this morning and promptly left instead of addressing the sleeping corpses and smoking on the balcony, and I'm rather stoic about such things.<br>
Point being, it's violence either way.<br>
-dru<br>
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