I know this is a wasp thread but! Looking to fill a slightly OS mid slot with either a Flat top KC pro roc or Wasp. Anyone who has used both can you give me a little insight? I bag a Buzzz and a flippy dx roc3 right now. I didn't really care for the buzzz OS (little too dumpy for me) and I already bag a Zone.

I use to use a flat kc roc for my turnover shots and z wasps for my straight and hyzer shots. No flat kc roc will stay overstable long at all. I have had a few odd flat kc rocs that were overstable new but 4-5 regular tree hits 150ft away and they go straight. I really like flat kc rocs but they will never stay over stable. I use to use a 165 z wasp for my straight with a small fade mid. The lighter ones would just hold really well. Over 3 years of near daily play, I broke in one of those 165 z wasps into a nice hyzer flip mid but they hold stability for a long time.

No flat kc roc will stay overstable long at all. I have had a few odd flat kc rocs that were overstable new but 4-5 regular tree hits 150ft away and they go straight.

Sounds like that's why they don't stay overstable for you. It took me 6-8 months of normal play and a skip off some gnarly terrain for me to break in a flat top KC Roc to the point where I could hyzerflip it. And Rocs are my most thrown discs on any given day.

Sounds like that's why they don't stay overstable for you. It took me 6-8 months of normal play and a skip off some gnarly terrain for me to break in a flat top KC Roc to the point where I could hyzerflip it. And Rocs are my most thrown discs on any given day.

Maybe. Trees happen. I was giving an example that doesn't always happen but it has before. Also I have had several flat kc rocs that turn some when they are brand new. (thrown in the 325-350 range)

Got my ledgestone big z wasp today. First impressions. The plastic is really gummy compared to my stock z. Secondly there's a ton of flashing. Both on the bead and a ton of it right underneath the nose. I don't know exactly how this will affect the flight but it's really is noticable. I will comeback to tell y'all my findings once it stops raining here in Eastern NC.