Firstly, I bought the game and the season pass because I couldn't care less about all the extra stuff they give you outside of the game. Secondly, it already states on the season pass page that the Nuketown Zombies map will be available in Dec to season pass holders and will come to other systems later.

Don't post crappy comments when you don't know what you are talking about

Nuketown Zombies is scheduled for Season Pass holders with the first DLC drop. The only people that already have it are Hardened and Carepackage Edition purchasers. So whenever the first DLC drop is release then you will have it.

Xbox 360 will get the nuketown zombies first if not already as it has been said on the website http://www.callofduty.com/blackops2/seasonpass where it says '' Nuketown zombies will be available for season pass holders first on xbox 360 in december with other platforms to follow ''

Ps3 users will more than likely get this map in January because xbox 360 still hold the rights to getting the map's before any other platforms so unless you got the hardend/carepackage edition your going to have to wait till the new year to get your map. as for the 4 DLC map packs i wouldnt expect them till February or March and thats for the Xbox 360 platform. Yes its anouying that the xbox 360 get the maps a full month before Ps3 but they paid for that privilege where as Ps3 get there online service for free so what did you expect ?

Does anyone know if: NTZ is an extra map (e.g. not counted in what would be the 4 DLC drops)

What do I mean and why am I asking:

We all know that NTZ comes with the season pass, however if one did not buy the season pass and bought all 4 DLC packs... would they also get NTZ?

I am hoping not - why?: Because it would be a total rip off for people who already have the map. Scenario: If NTZ is a zombie map that is included as part of the 4 DLC packs, anyone who already has the map would be buying it twice (essentially).

I am not sure if the information is available, but does anyone know?

(This post is not overlooking the fact that buying the HE was a waste for most people... but that is off-topic)

I would assume that it will be available as a single map purchase at some point. It's okay in the season pass I think because it was never in there originally and is a bonus map so essentially it's free. I think they will give a grace period like they have done until now before releasing it as a single piece of DLC.

ok first off nuketown zombies has not come out for season pass holders yet. it is most likely coming out this tuesday for xbox. you don't have to buy the season pass to get nuketown, it will be released by itself but not for several months down the road.