Soon,im going to install either Tein with EDFC or Airsuspension offered by Bitrade.comSo the thing is,i just wanted to know any sifu for myvi,what the best size of offset for myvi if im using 16"rim so that my rim could go inside the fender just like the VIP style.

Thus,can myvi rear axle chamber can changed to adjustable chamber.So i could negative up the chamber just like front and low my ride as the Bippu style.Please help.

the first thing make me laugh seeing this board.Boss,if im wrong ,see this image and TELL ME IM CORRECT.

Do you notice the left myvi with the negative chamber ??

That can be done with a welding torch, not camber screws. You cannot adjust with normal method. You'd have to 'operate' to get it done. Anyway, from that pic, it's hard to see. It looks like negative camber but without a straight shot, it's hard to tell.

Like we all said, you can't adjust the rear, not in a tyre shop anyway. So you can continue laughing but at yourself.

yeh,im still laughing dude..Let see,"Anyway, from that pic, it's hard to see. It looks like negative camber but without a straight shot, it's hard to tell.

You mean this picture is not in straight shot ? Buppsss,that why the owner has made i good comparision between to ride.The left is modded and the right is stock.I can see from my rough blinded eyes boss.

Added on April 1, 2009, 9:59 pm

QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Apr 1 2009, 03:00 PM)

u know the owner of dat myvi??.. did he do any serious modifications to his myvi rear arm to gain such negative camber??..

no, i have no idea whether myvi rear suspension has fixed or variable camber....

franky speaking,i only know him by Pistol_star.Try to google for "Vip style Myvi"He's myvi mooded(i guess) in there...

yeh,im still laughing dude..Let see,"Anyway, from that pic, it's hard to see. It looks like negative camber but without a straight shot, it's hard to tell.

You mean this picture is not in straight shot ? Buppsss,that why the owner has made i good comparision between to ride.The left is modded and the right is stock.I can see from my rough blinded eyes boss.

Added on April 1, 2009, 9:59 pmfranky speaking,i only know him by Pistol_star.Try to google for "Vip style Myvi"He's myvi mooded(i guess) in there...

I thought you were talking about some major negative camber. My stock OEM negative rear camber is just as much as that without the need to adjust, so that picture didn't really mean much. I thought I was suppose to be looking out for some bling bling camber in that picture. Anyway, since you think it can be done, please do go ahead. You don't need to ask anymore. Just like people do not ask whether Proton Wira's camber can be adjusted or not because it can be done with a simple adjustable camber screw.

Interesting pic. Why would anybody want to put a strut bar on a torsion beam? That beam is like 20 times bigger than the strut bar. Sigh... I should start collecting mods like this and make it into a book and call it "Adventures of the Misinformed modders".

i think thats an antiroll bar.like on iswara the beam actually 2 parts can twist in different direction so it's somewhat semi-independant rear suspension.antiroll bar supposed to limit that twisting hence less roll.im not sure its the same for myvi.cant see clearly in that pic

Interesting pic. Why would anybody want to put a strut bar on a torsion beam? That beam is like 20 times bigger than the strut bar. Sigh... I should start collecting mods like this and make it into a book and call it "Adventures of the Misinformed modders".

torsion beams are not a piece of solid shit that make your tyre straight all the way. Torsion beam do flex and your rear tyre do act differently left and right.

Y torsion beams can flex? it's to prevent breaking the torsion beam. It's like an antiroll bar that control your left and right tyre. Additional antiroll bar can be added to decrease the different on your left and right tyre.

Most old school car have a very stiff torsion beam, but not on newer car. Do you know iswara/waga got ori antiroll bar built in?

Interesting pic. Why would anybody want to put a strut bar on a torsion beam? That beam is like 20 times bigger than the strut bar. Sigh... I should start collecting mods like this and make it into a book and call it "Adventures of the Misinformed modders".

good idea,as i dunno y they make those bar for torsion beam for myvi,saga,honda city n toyota vios n claim cr more stabil which i couldn't feel it~

i think thats an antiroll bar.like on iswara the beam actually 2 parts can twist in different direction so it's somewhat semi-independant rear suspension.antiroll bar supposed to limit that twisting hence less roll.im not sure its the same for myvi.cant see clearly in that pic

you were correct. by using independant rear suspension, a torsion beam is somehow act like antiroll bar. Just that manufacture use bigger structure for it to improve the durability so that the torsion beam can last for many years without breaking itself while on uneven road. An antiroll bar is added on oem iswara/saga behind the torsion beam so usually people wont notice it. So to whose that say torsion beam no need antiroll bar, pls think twice. I still remember somebody do try to argue with me in my UR thread...But it's ok for discussions..

torsion beams are not a piece of solid shit that make your tyre straight all the way. Torsion beam do flex and your rear tyre do act differently left and right.

Y torsion beams can flex? it's to prevent breaking the torsion beam. It's like an antiroll bar that control your left and right tyre. Additional antiroll bar can be added to decrease the different on your left and right tyre.

Most old school car have a very stiff torsion beam, but not on newer car. Do you know iswara/waga got ori antiroll bar built in?

yes...

notice the additional bar attached horizontally to the main axle??...

QUOTE(detomaso @ Apr 2 2009, 12:23 PM)

camber press can be done on the torsion beam

any idea how??..

QUOTE(icyd @ Apr 2 2009, 01:15 PM)

another thing,is it legal?that considered kereta potong or not?

if serious modification involving altering ur current suspension design, yes it is illegal... u'll need to get approval from puspakom... heck, even converting rear drum brakes to disc brake also need jpj clarifications...

I thought you were talking about some major negative camber. My stock OEM negative rear camber is just as much as that without the need to adjust, so that picture didn't really mean much. I thought I was suppose to be looking out for some bling bling camber in that picture. Anyway, since you think it can be done, please do go ahead. You don't need to ask anymore. Just like people do not ask whether Proton Wira's camber can be adjusted or not because it can be done with a simple adjustable camber screw.

his rear kangkang? ? if i'm not mistaken he stated his front wanna sumbat 4pcs of camber worn not mistaken also he's driving a myvi so how 2 put camber nut? ?y do u like 2 try flame me so much wen u dun read his post properly cuz i put u on table b4? ? or u jus period issit?? ?

his rear kangkang? ? if i'm not mistaken he stated his front wanna sumbat 4pcs of camber worn not mistaken also he's driving a myvi so how 2 put camber nut? ?y do u like 2 try flame me so much wen u dun read his post properly cuz i put u on table b4? ? or u jus period issit?? ?

torsion beams are not a piece of solid shit that make your tyre straight all the way. Torsion beam do flex and your rear tyre do act differently left and right.

Y torsion beams can flex? it's to prevent breaking the torsion beam. It's like an antiroll bar that control your left and right tyre. Additional antiroll bar can be added to decrease the different on your left and right tyre.

Most old school car have a very stiff torsion beam, but not on newer car. Do you know iswara/waga got ori antiroll bar built in?

Yeap, i can't agree more, last time I also thought the torsion beam is solid and won't flex easily, I was wrong, the torsion beam is actually very flexible, don't believe me? wait until you guys remove rear wheels , shocks and springs, ask your friend to hold the trailing arm on one side and you try to move the arm on the other side, it is very easy to flex. remember, torsion beam is actually not a cylinder tube, it is half cylinder or 'C' shape, that's why it's easily to flex.