"If you leave us in peace, we will do you no harm. If you wish to join us, we will set a chair at our table and work to our mutual benefit. If you work against us, we will have no choice but to retaliate."

Mr. Administrator wrote:THIS "CABAL" IS SELFISH. WE HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THEIR VERY PRESENCE DESTABILIZES REALITY, AS RECENT DISCOVERIES SUCH AS THE ECHOES SEEM TO INDICATE. THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO JEOPARDIZE YOUR REALITY FOR THEIR OWN COMFORT.

WE DO NOT CARE WHETHER YOU TRUST US. WE WOULD ADVISE, HOWEVER, THAT YOU DO NOT TRUST THEM.

Can you tell us how their presence destabilises reality?

THE ECHOES CHARACTERS LEAVE BEHIND ARE TRACES OF YOUR REALITY BEING INFILTRATED BY FICTION. THEY ARE TEARS IN THE FABRIC OF REALITY, SIMILAR TO THE CRACKS IN THE WALL. OUR RESEARCH INDICATES THAT REALITY COULD, DUE TO THESE RIPS, UNRAVEL.

OUR RESEARCH IS ADMITTEDLY INCOMPLETE, BUT WE HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT SENDING THE CHARACTERS BACK THROUGH THESE TEARS WOULD CLOSE THEM. WE ARE REASONABLY ASSURED THAT A BREAKTHROUGH AS TO THE MECHANISM FOR SENDING THEM BACK IS CLOSE AT HAND.

For something as inportant as this should you not complete your research to be sure?

NeverSlender wrote:Can you tell us how their presence destabilises reality?

THE ECHOES CHARACTERS LEAVE BEHIND ARE TRACES OF YOUR REALITY BEING INFILTRATED BY FICTION. THEY ARE TEARS IN THE FABRIC OF REALITY, SIMILAR TO THE CRACKS IN THE WALL. OUR RESEARCH INDICATES THAT REALITY COULD, DUE TO THESE RIPS, UNRAVEL.

OUR RESEARCH IS ADMITTEDLY INCOMPLETE, BUT WE HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT SENDING THE CHARACTERS BACK THROUGH THESE TEARS WOULD CLOSE THEM. WE ARE REASONABLY ASSURED THAT A BREAKTHROUGH AS TO THE MECHANISM FOR SENDING THEM BACK IS CLOSE AT HAND.

For something as inportant as this should you not complete your research to be sure?

I'm sure research is ongoing, but that sort of stuff takes time. And if the fabrics of reality is indeed unraveling, we don't have the time to wait for the research to be complete to take action.

If everyone would just agree with me, there would never be any problems.

NeverSlender wrote:I can't find it now, but I think it was Pixel who said the cube on the comic cover could be a "piece" of the wall. If that's true then Mr. Administrator does not hold all the pieces.

Found it for you:

Pixelmage wrote:Actually, It could be a fragment of the Wall. Particle dynamics... Nah think water:If I take a cup out, the surrounding water would flow in to fill the space. The overall volume is reduced.

Now, assuming the Wall is dynamic: It has to be, otherwise we couldn't place things on the other side by writing fiction, and we couldn't see the other side by reading.

If you take a block out, the rest of the wall collapses to fill the gap. Reducing the volume of the Wall. since we assume the wall to be a solid construct, this "flow in" would create cracks around the, now filled, gap. The effect would then repeat itself in the bigger cracks to create more cracks. The process repeats untill the wall is stable at a new level. Which in this case may mean free pass to any and all fictionals.

...How do I manage to be offline long enough to miss the most important thing to happen to date? ><

I agree with Sicon on this: While they have sympathetic motives, they've gone beyond the pale in their hacking. That's not the way to get your message across (little history: a site I used to frequent was hacked by someone--either a troll or a crusader--who claimed to be trying to expose Admin corruption. The site is very Big Brother about that sort of thing, but I've gleaned enough information to know that the hacker's accusations were, in fact, true. If he was a crusader, his motives were understandable, but hacking the site was beyond the pale. You can see why I am making parallels here.)

P.S. @Mr. A: You keep mentioning your "RESEARCH." Would you be interested in divulging any of it to us? It would shore up your support, I think, and damage any pro-Cabal sentiments that might be forming.

Wysp wrote:...How do I manage to be offline long enough to miss the most important thing to happen to date? ><

I agree with Sicon on this: While they have sympathetic motives, they've gone beyond the pale in their hacking. That's not the way to get your message across (little history: a site I used to frequent was hacked by someone--either a troll or a crusader--who claimed to be trying to expose Admin corruption. The site is very Big Brother about that sort of thing, but I've gleaned enough information to know that the hacker's accusations were, in fact, true. If he was a crusader, his motives were understandable, but hacking the site was beyond the pale. You can see why I am making parallels here.)

Yeah, that's one of several angles we've discussed over the last few hours. And that hacker you were talking about never actively sent threatening letters, I'm willing to bet. Do their intended ends justify their means or not? Depends on what you think their goals are. They all appear to be slightly differing in their attitude towards what should be done, just as we are.

Still we were already discussing whether or not sending them back was the only option and I think it's wise for us to keep considering all possibilities while we still have the chance to do so. There are at least SOME fictionals around who are perfectly good people and would have good reason not to want to return.

They sometimes say, "the place where I am right now was circled on a map for me"... Unfortunately, I kind of suck at orienteering.

They say and I quote "We just want to stay. We want all of us to stay." would'nt that mean they would include the more dangerous ones? I mean good lord we already have a serial killer here! I don't think we shouldn't let them stay here. Because what if an Eldritch Abomination breaks through the cracks?

Inukai44 wrote:They say and I quote "We just want to stay. We want all of us to stay." would'nt that mean they would include the more dangerous ones? I mean good lord we already have a serial killer here! I don't think we shouldn't let them stay here. Because what if an Eldritch Abomination breaks through the cracks?

What if one already has?

The wall will fall, if they stay; then we'll fight another day.Never fear, the tropers here will help the written find their way.

I think we should archive all this extended session somewhere. It is a pain to piece it together on twitter, and it's a valuable piece of EC canon. Now I know that if you pee in the void, it will fall endlessly, and that Mr. Administrator is naked all the time. Make me unsee it.

Since I'm going to review it later, I can get on with it... If you tell me where to store it.

I have attempted to suppress my inner hyperspace future gardener crying out against all the injustice I am committing.