Loftus Cheek and Rashford were very good as well, big fan of Loftus Cheek using muscle and skill to run at people.

Yeah I thought he looked good.

Personally I didn't think that Maguire looked anything special.

Agreed. I thought he was a bit sloppy on the ball, and badly anticipated play at a few points. One particular example was him running forward really late to attempt an offside trap as play totally passed him by in the other direction. I did think he got better as the match wore on - though they also had less to do.

Agreed. I thought he was a bit sloppy on the ball, and badly anticipated play at a few points. One particular example was him running forward really late to attempt an offside trap as play totally passed him by in the other direction. I did think he got better as the match wore on - though they also had less to do.

It is good to see someone like Maguire being selected on merit, in the past England certainly would have started Cahill or Jones over him just because they play for bigger teams. I do think he'll get found out a bit against some of the better teams later in the competition though. As you say he doesn't always seem to read things that well, and I'm not sure if he is, but he seemed a bit slow v Tunisia so maybe hasn't got the speed to bail himself out of trouble. Good player but for me lacks the ability to read the game that the best CBs have.

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Agreed. I thought he was a bit sloppy on the ball, and badly anticipated play at a few points. One particular example was him running forward really late to attempt an offside trap as play totally passed him by in the other direction. I did think he got better as the match wore on - though they also had less to do.

It is good to see someone like Maguire being selected on merit, in the past England certainly would have started Cahill or Jones over him just because they play for bigger teams. I do think he'll get found out a bit against some of the better teams later in the competition though. As you say he doesn't always seem to read things that well, and I'm not sure if he is, but he seemed a bit slow v Tunisia so maybe hasn't got the speed to bail himself out of trouble. Good player but for me lacks the ability to read the game that the best CBs have.

On what merit? I’m not sure what he offers that Lascelles doesn’t. He looked useless against us. Just a big wind up merchant trying to bait the strikers.

It is good to see someone like Maguire being selected on merit, in the past England certainly would have started Cahill or Jones over him just because they play for bigger teams. I do think he'll get found out a bit against some of the better teams later in the competition though. As you say he doesn't always seem to read things that well, and I'm not sure if he is, but he seemed a bit slow v Tunisia so maybe hasn't got the speed to bail himself out of trouble. Good player but for me lacks the ability to read the game that the best CBs have.

On what merit? I’m not sure what he offers that Lascelles doesn’t. He looked useless against us. Just a big wind up merchant trying to bait the strikers.

He's had a good season with Leicester, just because he might not have played well against us (I don't know if he did or not) doesn't mean he had a bad season. I don't see why he doesn't deserve a place in the squad, just because Lascelles wasn't licked doesn't mean that Maguire shouldn't have been picked.

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The more I see the top sides crash and burn or under perform the more I still believe.

True, but Croatia are an excellent team and I certainly wouldn't be sticking any money on England if they came up against them. England always struggle against good technical sides and would definitely struggle against Croatia.

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The more I see the top sides crash and burn or under perform the more I still believe.

True, but Croatia are an excellent team and I certainly wouldn't be sticking any money on England if they came up against them. England always struggle against good technical sides and would definitely struggle against Croatia.

Croatia would beat us, even before this. That midfield is immense. Never heard of him, but that Vida at centreback had a good game. A quick google shows him being linked with west ham and Everton for 13m. Which sounds about right.

True, but Croatia are an excellent team and I certainly wouldn't be sticking any money on England if they came up against them. England always struggle against good technical sides and would definitely struggle against Croatia.

Argentina are ****. They made Croatia look like world-beaters.

Oh yeah Argentina were dog s***, but that doesn't negate the fact that Croatia have been a really good side for a number of years now.

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Oh yeah Argentina were dog s***, but that doesn't negate the fact that Croatia have been a really good side for a number of years now.

Their record at recent tournaments would suggest otherwise. They've got some quality players in Modric, Rakitic, Mandzukic and Perisic but beyond that they're nothing special. Don't know how people are so sure they would beat England.