it wasunderbillclintonwherehe taught 22 million jobs created we had a higher tax rate. i don't think this idea that higher tax rates stopped economic growth. what stopped economic growth is the parties making a difference. we have to come to an agreement and accept the fact that president obama won the election which included the tax increases for the wealthiest americans. >> tell me what you think is fair if we do compromise and taxes are raised he ran on staying howls holds have been make that go money and above will see taxes go up. is that fair? >> no. that is a level that has to move. they are bringing other revenue sources to the table including capping deductions and closing loopholes. that number the president is digging its heels on are where the margin matters and it will effect the job market. the white house will have to give on that point. >> we don't want to see taxes go up for everyone. that tax rate we may see a compromise. with deductions and closing loopholes. >> what do you think we can expect? >> both are agreeing on the same point. we are going to expect somethin

's suggestion he might not demand the top income tax rate return to what it wasunderbillclinton. aideswith him for the second tour of damage from hurricane sandy suggested mr. obama's demand is for a sure source of re-knew, leaving negotiators to decide how much the re-knew is. >> what i will not do is to have a process that is vague, that says we're going to sort of, kind of raise revenue through dynamic scoring. or closing loopholes that have not been identified. >> on this day, house speaker john boehner claimed that gallup survey showed most people support lowering the deficit ending the tax loopholes and making needed spending cuts. but that is not specific enough for white house. boehner wasn't more detailed the day before. >> getting in to the specifics of that at this point would not be con deuce i to try to come to the white house. >> republicans and democrats continue to position themselves for friday startup talks between the president and congressional leaders. each accusing the other of refusing to compromise. >> the keys to the car are heading toward the fisca cliff are

but achieves our common goal of balancing a budget.somethingbillclintonandnewt gingrich did in the mid-90s. shannon: are you against closing loop holes? >> i'm in favor of new revenues through economic growth. if you grow the economy at 4% a year, that 4% a year over 2% a year over a decade raises $5 trillion in more revenue. not a tax increase. but revenue through growth. why would you raise taxes when you could debt $5 trillion by cutting marginal tax rates and getting rid of some of the overregulation that obama is threatening the economy with and having more economic growth and more people pat work? that's the better way to raise revenue. it's disingenuous to say both parties have failed. the republicans in the house passed the ryan plan which fundamentally reformed entitlements. it needs the senate and the president to go along with it. but the republicans passed a real budget in writing in legislative form not some essay about what they think might be done which is all the president has done. shannon: paul ryan did win his house seat so he will be back there with the budget committee

'm going to finish. the i'm going to finish.underbillclintonweraised taxes on rich people. saw the biggest economic boom in american history. under george bush we lowered taxes on rich people go into economic ruin. >> this is problem with people with no connection. >> i'm going to i'm going to finish i'm going to finish. so there is not, based on our own experience a direct connection between raising rates and on wealthy people and economy going, going down. in fact the opposite happened. and so you can keep saying it doesn't make it true. rick: go ahead, pete. >> simon you have no experience in the private sector. never run a is business. that is problem when you have policy wonks. >> i run a business, 16 years. nice try, pete. >> solution for america. small businesses are answer here. president has a great opportunity to lead. >> i've been running a small business for 16 years. pete. rick: not everything was decided last tuesday. not everything was settled. we'll continue the conversation. simon and pete, we'll have you back again soon. >> thank you. >> sure. jenna: put your

. that is pretty evil. >> i don't think that happened under reagan orunderbillclinton. marginaltax rate increase that democrats are looking for will do nothing more than help support the majority of middle class americans that not only support increases on, increase in tax rates on people who are earning over $250,000 but also support not cutting things like social security and medicare and medicaid. and so i think the democrats come in not feeling very, very, rather feeling very strong around this idea that they can create the right compromise and right balance to move this country forward. rick: terry, bill kristol, the prominent conservative, spent last couple days on this network talking about how republicans may want to go along with the president's plan to raise tax rates on those earners above 250,000. take a listen. i'll get your response. this is last night an "special report". >> the first takes rates expire on december 31st. rates are going up for everyone if nothing happens. if you think republicans can win a showdown preserving all the current tax rates against a president

cliff. martha: doug schoen, former pollster topresidentbillclinton. monicacrowley, radio talk show host. both are fox news contributors and what i'm hearing through both of those quotes we're pretty much where we were the last time that the president and john boehner got together. that republicans are going to refuse to go along with any tax increases until, really because they want to see it done slightly different way which we can get into. the president says, that he won't budge either, monica. >> yes. what goes around and comes around and here we are exactly the same spot, martha, as you just said. there are two sacred principle at play for the republicans not raising taxes and cutting spending. focus seems to be because president and democrats do have control over this narrative only thing that seems to be at the conversation here, what we're talking about is, the tax issue, revenue versus rates. but i also think that the republicans really need to focus on cutting spending. that is the other part of this equation that is, just as important if not more important, martha becaus

ramp up the attack. these are live pictures that you are looking at. is it possibleforbillclintontostep in? >> steve: who changed the wheat white talking points of libya. taking terror out of the picture. the top inteleadmitted that something doesn't smell right here >> brian: they have no idea what you are wearing. hurricane damaged homes are so damaged that the city may not get a chance to tell the homeowners before plowing through. nice. "fox and friends", starts right now. ♪ ♪ "fox and friends". >> steve: welcome to studio e. it is monday before thanksgiving. alyson is in for gretchen. you have a new hair cut? >> no, a new style. >> steve: brian and i find a picture in 17 magazine and take it to the person. >> brian: and you are storting the bieber as i can see this morning. they are so talented they can do anything. >> brian: i look at cap. that's what i perfect. did i mention there is war in the middle east? israel and gaza. >> they are on the brink. we are looking live at the israeli/gaza border. it is now day sixth of the israeli crisis. they are waiting for a word o

in and won a historic election and after that, the next sixyears,billclintonmovedto the middle unlike barack obama who is still in left field. that when we had newt gingrich and balanced the budget about the late 1990's, and we cut the capital gains tax and the economy really did boom. you've got to do two things, you've got to cut the-- >> we've got to leave it there. just because of an accident. smart kid. [ voice of dennis ] indeed. are you in good hands? we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day afr day... block the acid with prilosec otc and don't get heartburn in the first place! [ male announcer ] e pill eachmorning. 24 hours. zero heartbur [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. medicare open enrollment. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to make changes. but it never hurts to see if you can find better coverage, save money, or both. and check out the preventive benefits you get after the health care law. ♪ open enrollment ends dember 7th. so now's the time. v