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I think Aladdin recognizes this war as a junction point in history. He can see that if he lets this escalate any further then people are going to die. Each side will pull out bigger and bigger guns. Until the final point where Magnoshutat will probably unleash a doomsday weapon bigger than that nuke cannon they had just shot twice at Reim. At that point there won't be anything left to save. Aladdin can literally feel this that's why he senses the need to act. If only to buy himself more time.

I think Aladdin recognizes this war as a junction point in history. He can see that if he lets this escalate any further then people are going to die. Each side will pull out bigger and bigger guns.

But that's pretty much was Aladdin himself is doing. Unless he comes out with something different next chapter I don't see how he's any different from Mogamette. I mean, his intentions are obviously more noble than his, but if the result in the same, intentions alone don't amount to much.

We seems to forget that Aladdin have more mission then just dungeon and the kings. He also has the mission to avert the same world ending disaster that'll be caused by the magicians.

The situation can very much spiral out of control if Aladdin don't do something now, especially when this war carry the same potential to cause the same disaster in the past.

If Alddian don't do anything here, he is betraying his own mission.

This is what we should talk about! Did we forget what Ugo told Aladdin ? That his mission is "stopping the abnormalities of the world ? I think Aladdin is still on the right track and Scher is just playing with his mind.

That his mission is "stopping the abnormalities of the world ? I think Aladdin is still on the right track and Scher is just playing with his mind.

I don't think so. Aladdin's plan was to get rid of whatever weapon Magnoshta was developing, since that was the element that could create more abnormalities of the world. But he aborted his mission midway as Sphintus convinced him of helping in the war. So you could say that by getting involved in the war he's actually neglecting his mission.

No. He can't just beat up the Magnostadt weapons then let the Finalis roflstomp their way through the magicians. The very thought that stopping there was the best outcome is ludicrous. Stopping the war in a true sense is going to require dealing with both sides. Non violently if possible of course, but if not..

No. He can't just beat up the Magnostadt weapons then let the Finalis roflstomp their way through the magicians. The very thought that stopping there was the best outcome is ludicrous. Stopping the war in a true sense is going to require dealing with both sides. Non violently if possible of course, but if not..

But like Mu told him, he shouldn't involve himself in a human war. It's not what a magi is meant to do. Destroying Magnostad's weapons is part of his responsibility as a magi because those weapons are created with black rukh, which is the source of the abnormalities of the world. Trying to stop the war is something he's doing for the sake of his friends; it has nothing to do with his mission.

Well, let's just wait and see if he manages to get out of this situation without making things worse.

The Eva was not created via black rukh. It's a standard magic item, just hugely upscaled, and runs off magoi the same way all magic tools do. It's just as legit as Reims zergrush 'we have reserves' tactics. You know what does run on black rukh? The black metal vessals it's hinted they have in reserve and will assumably use if they get desperate enough, which the Finalis smashing through sans Aladdin's intervention seems to fit nicely.

I wasn't talking about that Eva thing. Before Sphintus convinced him to take par in the war, Aladdin was looking for something else: the real secret of Magnoshtad, which has to do with black rukh. Finding and destroying that secret weapon was his real mission, which he's now neglecting.

I don't think he is neglecting his mission. If the Eva hadn't come out then he would still have been loooking for the hidden weapon. Sure that would have most likely mean that the Coups would have broken through the 2nd barrier but at some point he would have joined the fight to try and stop more people dying because then both sides will end up hating one another and then it would ensure black rukh being made and by doing so causing more damage then if he wasn't joining the fight in stopping the war.

By Solomon of course. Everyone knows what a magi is supposed to do, not only Scheherazade. Mogamette knew as well. Even some of the magicians there also knew that Aladdin shouldn't be fighting with them when they learned he's a magi.

By Solomon of course. Everyone knows what a magi is supposed to do, not only Scheherazade. Mogamette knew as well. Even some of the magicians there also knew that Aladdin shouldn't be fighting with them when they learned he's a magi.

That begs two questions:
- who's Solomon to decree what Magi should and shouldn't do? Even if he was, say, the greatest Magi of all time - what right does he have?
- how does "everyone know"? If it was that important that Aladdin not get involved when people are assholes to each other, don't you think Ugo - who probably got his orders directly from the man in question - would have mentioned it? Everything else's just hearsay. You can't even claim they got it from observations of other Magi. Yunan may live like that - sort of - but he's the only one.

"But you got a grand mission! This is nothing compared to what you need to do!"

"Contrary, this is exactly what I need to do. Changing the world is a big task for any one person to do, Magi or otherwise. Affecting it, as King Sinbad can is one thing, but he can't change it. You need many people to do that. You all are people as well, why shouldn't you have a voice in how the world is to be changed?"

"But...your Magi duties...!"

"Stopping this war is one of them! 'Guide people to a place of peace'. Doesn't stopping you from killing each other count!? All of you have families, friends, loved ones!
I remember a land that was also ruled by magicians...long long ago. It too was destroyed for not understanding those who did not have magic! You will keep on prepetuating the same cycle, over and over again until someone stops it! Well, I won't let that dark history repeat itself!"

~*~

Stopping the war means that the special weapon won't be brought out into play, which will suit Aladdin just fine until he can go find and deal with it. Perpetuating the fighting just increases the chances of it being brought out and killing people, which Aladdin does not want.

A weapon is just a tool, like any other. Stopping the situation that gives the weapon its purpose (before it is brought out) is a better way - you can get rid of the weapon easier afterward and with much less ego involved.

'A Magi shouldn't fight'

Why? Maybe because it is unfair to the opposing side to have a living nuke walking the battlefield? They are a black ship - if they actively joined in on a fight, that's completely unfair and against their Magi creed.

Aladdin is making himself a 'third party', but Mu sees him as being on Mogamette's side since he is fighting against him. Aladdin is, most likely, stopping the attacker and will prevent the defender from making any retalitory attacks.

Alibaba appears in this chapter. Mu pretty much tells him that Alibaba wouldn't be able to stop the war given that Scheherazade and Mogamett wasn't able to plus stopping the war with out killing anyone. Aladdin talks to Mogamett and tells him that they will protect the city once again. Leams Solders get pushed back to the start thanks to Aladdin's gravity magic controlling the sand and then the barrier gets restored. He goes on saying that they would have to redo everything they have done and every time they do so he will push them back again to the start and the barrier will be restored. He pretty much breaking their fighting spirits. Aladdin then goes to say that even if they where able to take the country the people would have probably rebel against Leam. As they like their country. Then goes to say to Leam army to go home.

I read that there isn't going to be a chapter next week. Is that true?

Alibaba appears in this chapter. Mu pretty much tells him that Alibaba wouldn't be able to stop the war given that Scheherazade and Mogamett wasn't able to plus stopping the war with out killing anyone. Aladdin talks to Mogamett and tells him that they will protect the city once again. Leams Solders get pushed back to the start thanks to Aladdin's gravity magic controlling the sand and then the barrier gets restored. He goes on saying that they would have to redo everything they have done and every time they do so he will push them back again to the start and the barrier will be restored. He pretty much breaking their fighting spirits. Aladdin then goes to say that even if they where able to take the country the people would have probably rebel against Leam. As they like their country. Then goes to say to Leam army to go home.

I read that there isn't going to be a chapter next week. Is that true?

That begs two questions:
- who's Solomon to decree what Magi should and shouldn't do? Even if he was, say, the greatest Magi of all time - what right does he have?

Because he created them. Who do you think gave Aladdin his mission, btw?

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Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

- how does "everyone know"? If it was that important that Aladdin not get involved when people are assholes to each other, don't you think Ugo - who probably got his orders directly from the man in question - would have mentioned it?

It seems to be common knowledge at least amount magicians. As for Ugo, he never really told Aladdin anything, instead leaving him to learn on his own. You know this.

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Ultimately you can see in this chapter that what Aladdin is doing is pointless. He's now using his overwhelming powers to crush the humans' fighting spirit. Yes, he's not killing anyone, but ask yourself, can Aladdin really make a peaceful world by this method, by literally forcing people to peace with his almighty power? Of course not. People isn't going to change just because you force them to change. And that's provided Reim is really going to retreat, which I doubt. No one likes to be put down like that. Aladdin's not creating peace by doing this, just resentment.

That's what I liked about the Balbadd arc so much. Alibaba managed to turn the tables in his country without forcing his views on the people. He didn't even force Kougyoku to accept his proposition either. Of course, Aladdin's position isn't as favorable as Alibaba's that time. But I always thought Balbadd was a presedent about how you can't never achieve a real change by force. I mean, you can fight the big baddies and such, but the people won't accept your views just because you're powerful.

Anyway, rather than Aladdin, I'm more interested on what Alibaba's going to do now. Also, it would be pretty cool if the Kou army chooses this moment to make their entrance.

Well, putting aside whether or not I agree with Aladdin's involvement in the war, I still felt what he did this chapter was clever. And remember, in shounen comics, crushing the enemy's fighting spirit tends to be as severe as outright killing them!

Also nice to know that we at least get a brief glimpse of Alibaba this chapter. But now that pretty much leaves the countdown until Kou's arrival....

I can't help but wonder if Kou will go all kool aid manon the barriers. I would assume that the Kouha Ren would be able to break through the 1st barrier with out much trouble and then the 2nd would be done by Hakuei Ren & Kougyoku Ren. Still it would be cool to see Hakuryuu Ren in the war and then we could see Alibaba vs Hakuryuu Ren rematch.