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This question probably was asked before, but i can't find it, so I'm going to ask it myself :D

I know Hunter should avoid alcohol in general, but there are occasions like birthday when you just "should" drink something. Which alcohol is the least harmful for hunter ( % of alcohol in it doesn't matter, lets say I will drink more if it's weak, and less if its strong)? Wine, rum or something else?

Posted by: Enobattar, Saturday, September 14, 2013, 7:18pm; Reply: 1

I'd go with red wine since I believe that to be a Neutral for Type O's in the BTD. :)

Posted by: Lloyd, Saturday, September 14, 2013, 8:21pm; Reply: 2

Red wine should be fine. In moderation.

Posted by: yaeli, Monday, September 16, 2013, 12:37am; Reply: 3

I don't know how much truth there's in this, I was told twice that Gin is actually good for you, and so is Whiskey. Personally I don't touch these liquors anymore. Not even tiny portions, not even rarely. Red wine is black dot for me, so I pass. In ceremonies I take grape juice, it is commonly served nowadays as a substitute for red wine, for the children, the diabetics, etc. In exceptional cases, when sanctifying the fruit of the vine, and when there's no substitute on the table, I take a tiny sip of the sweetened wine for honorable participation.

Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, September 16, 2013, 1:04am; Reply: 4

In the GTD book, both red and white wines are "black dots" for Hunters; while beer and distilled liquor are outright avoids. Other alcoholic beverages (such as mead or hard cider) have not been evaluated for GTD.

It's perfectly appropriate to have a glass or two of a "black dot" beverage for special occasions. IMO, that's what the "black dot" foods are for.

Both gin and whiskey fall into the "distilled liquor" category so neither would be a good choice for a Hunter.

In the GTD book, both red and white wines are "black dots" for Hunters; while beer and distilled liquor are outright avoids. Other alcoholic beverages (such as mead or hard cider) have not been evaluated for GTD.

It's perfectly appropriate to have a glass or two of a "black dot" beverage for special occasions. IMO, that's what the "black dot" foods are for.

Both gin and whiskey fall into the "distilled liquor" category so neither would be a good choice for a Hunter.

So does that mean that black dots are not as bad as avoids? I thought that black dots were the worst out of the list of avoids :-/

Posted by: yaeli, Thursday, September 19, 2013, 11:00am; Reply: 7

Quoted from SWAMI Xpress

Some avoids are noted by a black dot (•). These are temporary avoids meaning that you should minimize or avoid these foods for a period of about three months, to allow your digestive system to regenerate and detoxify. Once it has been rebuilt you can reintroduce these in small amounts.

Posted by: cat2, Friday, September 20, 2013, 9:24am; Reply: 8

Ah, thanks so much. I must have misread that but do understand now, ...so actually the black dots are only temporary whereas the avoids are avoids full stop.

...so actually the black dots are only temporary whereas the avoids are avoids full stop.

The book adds a bit more to the paragraph.

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Some food on the [Genotype] toxin list need only be avoided for a short period of time so that you can regain your balance. After 3-6 months, you can reintroduce these foods back into your diet in modest amounts. They are identified by a black dot (dot) icon. Of course, if you are battling an illness or feel your weight beginning to creep back up, you may want to ramp up your compliance by avoiding these foods again for a while.

Black dot foods don't become "neutral" after 3-6 months. They're still not good choices. But they're not as bad as the "outright avoids." I've tried a few of them, only one at a time, to see how I react. Cinnamon has no effect on me, so that I use fairly regularly. Every other "black dot" food is something that really isn't good for me. I can handle one small portion every few months, but more than that will cause problems.

That's my results with the black dots from SWAMI. When using the GTD book, the black dots are foods that may be OK for some individuals, but not others. Many "Gatherer" black dot foods are neutral or even beneficial on my personalized SWAMI; had I been following GTD from the book, I would have re-introduced them and eaten them freely by now. Other Gatherer "black dot" foods are "avoids" on my SWAMI, and I don't eat them at all.