I'm looking to buy a handgun. I'm looking for basic simplicity, power to take down a fool, and affordability, and some use for target shooting (this is definitely the lowest priority). What is the price range I am looking at? I don't want any PoS either. Thanks for any info.

I reread that again, I got a different meaning this time. I guess he was trying to say if you need to shoot it urgently you don't have to "flip the safety on/off" and I took it as saying "the gun had not safety" which would not be correct as all glock's have the trigger safety measure.

Just a common misconception is that glocks do not have a safety (as some will say) and that is not true.

Originally Posted by Bigfartz

all guns must have safety button, pretty sure that is law, everywurr

Definitely not true at all, I just bought a KAHR P45 series handgun, and it has no safety mechanism at all. It's a great gun though. It's small, concealable, and it definitely has some stopping power. I would reccomend it for anyone looking. They also make a 9mm and .40 if you don't want the .45.

What % of handgun owners under the age of 28 or so are complete retards with their weapon?

I'm guessing over 60% can't hit the broad side of a barn and instead just have the handgun to look tough.

Every time I go to an indoor shooting range, I LOL at the Tommy Toughnuts out there just spraying shots and being completely unsafe. Cracks me up.
The last time I was there, I was literally in tears laughing at some wigger with his 9mm pretending he was Eminem. He was trying to impress his trash girlfriend, which was funny, considering only about 1/2 of his rounds actually hit a target that was about 15 feet away.

Beretta 92FS ( Centurian ) 9mm
It is a full size semi-auto that has high capacity and shoots great. I have 21 round mags for mine which makes target shooting easier.

You will also find Glocks for about the same price. If you are willing to spend a few bucks more, buy a Sig Sauer. I would suggest sticking with a 9mm as it will be relatively inexpensive to target shoot. If the cost of ammo isn't a concern, but knock down power is, then I would get a Sig 220 .45 cal. Picking up some Hogue grips for your new semi-auto will also be a nice plus.

Originally Posted by BigGunX

What % of handgun owners under the age of 28 or so are complete retards with their weapon?

I'm guessing over 60% can't hit the broad side of a barn and instead just have the handgun to look tough.

Every time I go to an indoor shooting range, I LOL at the Tommy Toughnuts out there just spraying shots and being completely unsafe. Cracks me up.
The last time I was there, I was literally in tears laughing at some wigger with his 9mm pretending he was Eminem. He was trying to impress his trash girlfriend, which was funny, considering only about 1/2 of his rounds actually hit a target that was about 15 feet away.

Not that this directed towards me, but I am in the process of getting my conceal and carry permit in Missouri, and I own several guns, and I use them in a safe manner for hunting, target shooting, etc... Most people that I know are pretty responsible when it comes to guns, there are obv a few idiots, but those are the ones I avoid hunting and shooting with.

When I was 24 I kept a handgun with me all the time. No idea why, I guess I kinda thought it was cool and all my buddies had one. Any who I'm on my way home from the bar one friday night and had a 380 in my glove box. I got pulled over by a cop and he asked for insurance and registration. I reached for the glove box(forgetting my gun was in there) opened it up and when the cop saw the gun he freaked out, pulled his gun on me and started screaming and yelling, got me out of the car, cuffed me, 4 other cops show up big fucking mess. I still have a few guns and have a lifetime permit(thank you Mitch Daniels) but only carry when I'm on the way to the range.

Originally Posted by louiemdj

Originally Posted by BigGunX

What % of handgun owners under the age of 28 or so are complete retards with their weapon?

I'm guessing over 60% can't hit the broad side of a barn and instead just have the handgun to look tough.

Every time I go to an indoor shooting range, I LOL at the Tommy Toughnuts out there just spraying shots and being completely unsafe. Cracks me up.
The last time I was there, I was literally in tears laughing at some wigger with his 9mm pretending he was Eminem. He was trying to impress his trash girlfriend, which was funny, considering only about 1/2 of his rounds actually hit a target that was about 15 feet away.

Not that this directed towards me, but I am in the process of getting my conceal and carry permit in Missouri, and I own several guns, and I use them in a safe manner for hunting, target shooting, etc... Most people that I know are pretty responsible when it comes to guns, there are obv a few idiots, but those are the ones I avoid hunting and shooting with.

Yeah, definitely wasn't directed at you.

I think a lot of it is geographical. I live in Williamsburg, VA, but the range I shoot at is in Newport News. Hampton/Newport News is crawling with thugs and dirtbags, and I see a lot of it at the range.

We get 3 basic types at the range near me: Military/former military, gun/hunting aficionados, and tough guys. I have no problem with the first 2. I can't stand people who want to shoot because they think it makes them look tough.

Originally Posted by Mr Galt

I have notified range safety on a number of occasions regarding issues. My range will pull you off the line and ask you to leave at the very first violation.

Do you one better.

I range I USED to use was anal about a "3 second shot rule", meaning no matter what you are shooting they expected you to wait a FULL 3 seconds in between each shot, obviously BS for sure. They have range guys monitoring non-stop for this and they call you out on it all the time. Hey, they do teach the CCW class and do the shooting exam which is certainly drills of shots beyond the 3-second rule.

Anyway, they rule the range like this yet they had an older man/woman come in, heard a commercial and wanted to shoot. They come in, own no guns and never taken a safety course. So, 30 minutes later after range guy walks them through the exam and takes the fees they give them, get this, a .357 S/W magnum. Once grandpa put 2 shots in ceiling and one on a target 3 lanes over from his lane they then realized the mistake that was made.

Oh yea, the range at this facility has been closed now for close to a year, oooops.

Could someone plz explain the "no safety on the glock" concept? What is the point of having a safety if it automatically releases when you pull the trigger? What does the safety protect you from? A fire?

I recently bought a Taurus that looks very similar to ^^^^^. Except mine is a 9mm. I like the fact that I can get a bunch or rounds out real fast. If you want one shot to do the job, obviously you should go with a 45. As for mine...I love it, comfortable grip, great shot, and looks bad ass. Cost me like $450.

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