Teysa, Orzhov Scion Discussion

5 days ago

"I have about a 35% win rate with him over the course..."

I'm sorry, but did you miss the bit about how you shouldn't advocate commanders that you play in real life? In case you did it's rule 1.

It's very difficult to separate personal bias and objectivity when discussing your own commander. The reason people play X commander is invariably because they like X commander's playstyle, and without fail that preference colors their opinion of that playstyle more favorably.

It's the same reason I don't advocate for Teysa, Orzhov Scion or Purphoros, God of the Forge. I know my opinion of them is shaped by every game I've sat down to play with them. I'm not going to be as objective as an outside observer.

Also, even if red is a weak color in commander, that does not mean that every color identity that contains red is weakened by including it. Grixis, Temur, Jeskai, and any of the 4color identities with red are all very strong, and many decks in those colors play the cards I mentioned.

1 week ago

I would recommend some more ways to create tokens, so that you can have a better access to Ayli's second ability once the life threshold is reached. Cards like Abhorrent Overlord and Teysa, Orzhov Scion come to mind. Also, once you sacrifice some non-spirits, a Requiem Angel can replace them with a nice spirit token.

1 week ago

You can't really build a Kaalia of the Vast deck on a budget, just too many expensive cards you want to play off of her. I will say the same thing as others though buy the vampire pre-con and with Edgar Markov's ability you could play Teysa, Orzhov Scion and some sac outlets in the deck already and generate value.

1 week ago

Yeah, Edgar probably isn't as good as Teysa, Orzhov Scion but I think he is at a sweet spot for fun vs. viability. Licia on the other hand just seems terrible to me, she should have costed 5 first cast and had flying imo or just lifelink/double strike. What a waste :/.

the teysas have some of my favorite art in magic the gathering and let me play orzhov my favorite color combo. Id probly play teysa scion as a token deck with sacrifice themes. which was a similar to one of my first ever mtg decks i built so nostalgia.

id run teysa envoy as some sort of orzhov control deck that wuld let me stall until i could play big orzhov bomb cards that have really cool art imo.

alesha id play similar to little teysa but with less of a token focus and more sac and recur. i dont like her card as much but i still like it and i like the access to red.

kaalia would be cool cause i could play big demons and angles but i probably wont run her unless i manage either sell some cards or trade for her. and i heard she can be unfun for casual. Though its not like i want to run her to be op i just like angel and demon cards a lot.

jeleva i like for a similar thing but for giant instant and sorcerys, and spell combos.

edward markov was actually a bit disappointment. But vampires are my favorite tribe. and i already have some tribal support. so i might just do that if the rest of the precon is good.

so like how do you narrow down what commander to choose and are any of these like unfun for causal or really hard to build on a budget cause that would help me narrow it down.

2 weeks ago

"Absolute garbage deck with little to no chance of winning" - well not with that attitude! I kid, but in all seriousness, it sounds like you're having a tough time with your deck. I guess it'd be safe to assume you ha ve no reliable wincons. So, we have two options here - you switch commanders, or try and figure out something what can enable you to win. I'll give you my thoughts on each option:

Switching commanders: So, you have a commander that's an angel. To my surprise, she's the only WB angel there is. Go figure. So every other option is non-angel...but you do have some very interesting choices.

Mind you, I didn't list all of the cards because IMO, these are probably the more popular choices and the most expensive (sorry!). The idea behind choosing a commander is choosing a creature that speaks to you. Something you like about the way they play, what they embody stuff like that. If you have any thoughts regarding any of the previously mentioned cards, let me know and we can try to build a deck that's more centered around it.

Figure out something - so if we stick with Selenia, Dark Angel as our commander I think the most reliable way to get her to win is to voltron her up. Basically, we'd just rely mostly on just her winning us the game. So we would use cards like:

Just to name a few. The idea would be that your commander would be so well equipped that she'd be nigh impossible to deal with for hte rest of the table. Additionally, you'd have to have a means of protecting yourself. Cards like:

Just to name a few. But the idea is that you build up a defense while your opponents have to deal with your commander who will stand vigil in front of the wall you build. As you constantly equip and build her up, she becomes a legitmate threat on the board. Of course, there are other creatures that are better suited to this strategy, but given what she has this is the best I can come up with. I'm sure there are smarter people out there that would have better ideas though. Don't give up!

2 weeks ago

Maybe I should go for the Ghost Council. The god is abit above my price range per card average.

One of my friends also recommended to try out Teysa, Orzhov Scion and try to make like a ping deck with Blasting Station and Cutthroat/Artist effects ending with sacing tokens to Ashnod's Altar and an Exsanguinate or Torment of Hailfire. Would that be at all viable? Or would it be to viable and be like the main way to build Teysa (I have no idea how she's run) and not original at all? I like to be abit original with my decks.

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