Prices from EU suppliers will be more expensive but prices from elsewhere may be cheaper. Supply and demand might dictate that to stay competitive businesses may have to find a way to cut costs so UK citizens still buy from them, and vice versa of course. If Trump starts a trade war with us then maybe prices will rise, or maybe, if we strike a good deal with America prices won't budge or, shock horror, come down? Who knows what will happen. As long as Trump is in power anything might happen. Someone asked why brexiteers always look on the negative side of the EU, I can ask the same of remainers, why can't you see the possibilities that leaving could bring? There are positives and negatives on both sides. remainers seem to be quite desperately attached to the EU, too scared to try another way. Maybe that's all it is, fear of the unknown, of the what ifs leaving brings. Brits have, historically speaking been much braver than this but it seems the stoic, stiff upper lip Brit is a thing of the past. We can't even deal with the idea of something different anymore. I say we when of course it's not all of us, to say it was all of us would be as wrong as saying all leavers are child like in their stupidity/ignorance or whatever.

Your first sentence, if prices may be cheaper elsewhere, we’d already be buying from there today.

And the rest of your post is just garbage as well. Nothing wrong with change, but there needs to be a good case for it. Being British doesn’t make us immune from catastrophies.

What about the people who only voted remain because they were scared of going to war or losing half the value of their house?

Or the immediate emergency budget.

Or the stock market crash

Or the 500,000 job losses.

What did we got? No budget record employment and FTSE soaring.So it's plain to see to was all project fear BS.

And the fecking clueless remoaners are still spouting BS.

Regarding the leave campaign only this week the high court ruled that they did follow the electoral commissions guidelines so that throws the thick Irish terrorist lovers "cheat" comment into touch also.

The judge said the Electoral commission acted in political interest and Euro Guido reports........The High Court’s judgement describes the Electoral Commission as “unconstructive”, “arbitrary” and lacking “any rational basis” for its actions. They have ruled that the Electoral Commission itself does not understand electoral law. How can the Electoral Commission possibly be fit for purpose if it does not even understand electoral law itself?

So it looks like the establishment tried to close ranks and destroy the leave campaign yet the heep still believe the experts who keep getting forecasts wrong and still believe any doom and gloom predictions. The future could be bright if we all worked towards it with common purpose, remain fractured and nothing will be a success including if brexit is stopped. It will just cause mayhem.

If prices were cheaper elsewhere........ummm, yes, maybe after brexit and tariffs are introduced things will work out cheaper elsewhere.

Your refusal to accept that a majority (of those eligible to vote, who voted) thought there was a good case for change is your problem.

So we agree prices for UK consumers will go up if we start a trade war with the EU.

How have I refused to accept that leavers thought there was a good case for change which is why they voted to leave? Of course they thought it was a good idea to leave other wise they wouldn't have voted that way. I think that they were misled and as this thread routinely points out, very few brexit arguments survive the most basic scrutiny.

The judge said the Electoral commission acted in political interest and Euro Guido reports........The High Court’s judgement describes the Electoral Commission as “unconstructive”, “arbitrary” and lacking “any rational basis” for its actions. They have ruled that the Electoral Commission itself does not understand electoral law. How can the Electoral Commission possibly be fit for purpose if it does not even understand electoral law itself?

So it looks like the establishment tried to close ranks and destroy the leave campaign yet the heep still believe the experts who keep getting forecasts wrong and still believe any doom and gloom predictions. The future could be bright if we all worked towards it with common purpose, remain fractured and nothing will be a success including if brexit is stopped. It will just cause mayhem.

So we agree prices for UK consumers will go up if we start a trade war with the EU.

How have I refused to accept that leavers thought there was a good case for change which is why they voted to leave? Of course they thought it was a good idea to leave other wise they wouldn't have voted that way. I think that they were misled and as this thread routinely points out, very few brexit arguments survive the most basic scrutiny.

And what are we changing to? Not long to go now and nobody knows!

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What an absolute load of crap. The eu worst nightmare is around the corner, a successful independent U.K., that will provide inspiration to other countries who may want to leave the Frankenstein project.

What an absolute load of crap. The eu worst nightmare is around the corner, a successful independent U.K., that will provide inspiration to other countries who may want to leave the Frankenstein project.

So we agree prices for UK consumers will go up if we start a trade war with the EU.

How have I refused to accept that leavers thought there was a good case for change which is why they voted to leave? Of course they thought it was a good idea to leave other wise they wouldn't have voted that way. I think that they were misled and as this thread routinely points out, very few brexit arguments survive the most basic scrutiny.

And what are we changing to? Not long to go now and nobody knows!

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Who said anything about a trade war?

You think they were misled because you choose too, you can't accept that the leavers believed anything other than lies. What about the remain lies, you seem to have swallowed them hook line and sinker and how many remain predictions have yet to come true?

As for the brexit arguments, like you say.....nobody knows. I chose leave because I believed it was the right choice. What I hate is the insults that are routinely thrown by either side when the truth is no one can be sure remining is a better choice either. Apply project fear to the EU,

What if the unstable south European countries withdraw from the Euro and it collapses

What if the far right get into power in more countries and have a referendum and the EU collapses

What if the far right cause so much trouble law and order breaks down

What if Greece and Italy just leave the EU, Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic and Sweden, all have rising right wing Eurosceptic parties.

What if the EU causes "bullets to fly across Europe" as Cameron predicted voting leave would?

Maybe if remain had been less negative more people like me would have voted differently but when the biggest argument for staying uses fear and bullying, it doesn't really stand up to scrutiny either. Face it, everybody was misled and deriding 17 million people as stupid because they made a different choice isn't really the brightest thing to do.

You think they were misled because you choose too, you can't accept that the leavers believed anything other than lies. What about the remain lies, you seem to have swallowed them hook line and sinker and how many remain predictions have yet to come true?

As for the brexit arguments, like you say.....nobody knows. I chose leave because I believed it was the right choice. What I hate is the insults that are routinely thrown by either side when the truth is no one can be sure remining is a better choice either. Apply project fear to the EU,

What if the unstable south European countries withdraw from the Euro and it collapses

What if the far right get into power in more countries and have a referendum and the EU collapses

What if the far right cause so much trouble law and order breaks down

What if Greece and Italy just leave the EU, Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic and Sweden, all have rising right wing Eurosceptic parties.

What if the EU causes "bullets to fly across Europe" as Cameron predicted voting leave would?

Maybe if remain had been less negative more people like me would have voted differently but when the biggest argument for staying uses fear and bullying, it doesn't really stand up to scrutiny either. Face it, everybody was misled and deriding 17 million people as stupid because they made a different choice isn't really the brightest thing to do.

Give up with you. What do you think raising tariffs on the EU if they don't give us a free trade deal?