Any new pics out there? I am especially curious about the interior. GM sure is taking their time getting these to market. Hopefully they will be good enough to put Chevy and GMC on top of the competition.

Naga Royal Guard

01-04-2005, 06:51 AM

not till 07 for the GMT900 as ive read on GM sites, small changes along they way maybe

Dodger

01-04-2005, 06:57 AM

They should take their time with these since they are some of GMs strongest sellers. I am not sure they should wait until 07 though- the current gen is getting outdated fast. Any news on new engines?

Banker

01-04-2005, 09:24 AM

The engines aren't their main problem... it is the terrible interiors. Bring them to market fast.

jro4566

01-04-2005, 12:35 PM

We can expect a good, if not great, interior on these new 900s - especially since GM's latest entries into the market are pretty good on the inside. I just hope it has side-curtains for all 3 row; forget about side-thorax airbags since GM seems to be stubborn about putting those into every new vehicle.

JBlair

01-04-2005, 12:38 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jro4566</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We can expect a good, if not great, interior on these new 900s - especially since GM's latest entries into the market are pretty good on the inside. I just hope it has side-curtains for all 3 row; forget about side-thorax airbags since GM seems to be stubborn about putting those into every new vehicle.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>They'll be good interiors, but I wouldn't bet on them being as good as the competition. (Ford F150 anyone?) GM knows it has to do well, but the bean counters still have quite a hold on that company. (yech....)

Krypton

01-04-2005, 05:26 PM

werent there tiny uncovered pics of a version of this car

SV

01-05-2005, 04:44 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SLR</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">werent there tiny uncovered pics of a version of this car</TD></TR></TABLE><p>yeah, they're at the top of the page

Krypton

01-05-2005, 05:43 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SV</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>yeah, they're at the top of the page</TD></TR></TABLE><p>they werent there when i posted, there were just the spyshots <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

StuckInNYForever

01-07-2005, 07:05 PM

Wow, the front end looks a lot like the coming Honda Ridgeline/SUT with the angled headlights and the flared fenders.

thegriffon

01-07-2005, 07:09 PM

The SUV's arrive throughout 2006, the pickups in 2007. A concept with GM's new advanced hybrid system is expected in Detroit (GMC Graphyte).

thegriffon

01-07-2005, 07:10 PM

Oh, and the first pics are from Popular Mechanics, not MotorTrend.

Banker

01-24-2005, 10:40 AM

I have heard mixed information on when these will break cover and go into production. GM can't seriously be thinking about waiting until fall of 2006. Any word?

Dodger

01-24-2005, 10:53 AM

I can't believe they are taking this long to replace them!! This is why GM is losing ground in the market- -&gt; out-dated product!!

Speedstick

01-24-2005, 07:16 PM

I read at cardesignnews.com that the GM Graphyte concept shows some cues as to future GMC trucks. Mainly, a chrome grille with gray surround, flanked by headlights with turn signals above them that rose into the hood.<p><IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/gmc/graphyte/images/IMG_0930.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Now look at this link, in the mesh area in the front. You can clearly see most of that in that area.<p><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/8640_image.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...e.jpg</A><p>As for the Chev version, that pic shows it pretty good (although it's hard to see a lot of the front end).

JBlair

01-24-2005, 09:01 PM

According to DetNews, IIRC, they will be introduced at NAIAS 2006 and go on sale in the fall.

Naga Royal Guard

01-24-2005, 09:39 PM

multiple sources on GM forums are saying '07....<p>which makes it entirely possible for them to go on sale fall 06 as 07 models

Charger

02-16-2005, 01:53 PM

<A HREF="http://info.detnews.com/dn/pix/2005/02/16/drive/dr16-ChevyTahoe1-0205n_02-16-2005_794BI31.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://info.detnews.com/dn/pix...1.jpg</A><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">GM redesigning its full-sized SUVs for 2007<p><br> General Motors Corp. is completely redesigning the full-size trucks and sport-utility vehicles sold under the Chevrolet, GMC and Cadillac brands.<br> GM's new large truck platform will underpin the 2007 replacements for the Chevy Tahoe, the GMC Yukon and the Cadillac Escalade, all of which are due to arrive in spring 2006, along with the next-generation Suburban, Yukon XL and Escalade ESV.<br> The big SUVs will get all-new exterior sheet metal, upgraded cabins and revised suspensions and powertrains.<br> The 2007 Tahoe reportedly will be offered with a gas-electric hybrid propulsion system, among its driveline options.<br> --Paul Lienert </TD></TR></TABLE><br>source: detnews

ohme467

02-16-2005, 02:23 PM

why do i feel that these future trucks Damn Well Better impress me?

Dahlis

02-16-2005, 02:29 PM

I just dont understand the points of those cars when you can get a Range Rover

Charger

02-16-2005, 02:35 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Dahlis</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just dont understand the points of those cars when you can get a Range Rover</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Price. The new Range Rovers start at $73,750

knicks125

02-16-2005, 02:48 PM

I agree, although I wouldn't buy either (everything that's listed in this thread + RR)<p>BTW...RR is not worthy 74k and I am sure many of you are already aware of that...you are buying the badge and the brand <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">

sc43018

02-16-2005, 04:03 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> BTW...RR is not worthy 74k and I am sure many of you are already aware of that...you are buying the badge and the brand <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>yea... that and its offroad ability, luxurious interior, and arguably the most beautiful SUV on the road. You must be right, the brand and badge are just about it <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

ToronadoGT

02-16-2005, 05:34 PM

Looks like the design of GM's Chevy and GMC vehicles are going back to where they were in the 90s in a few ways. Actually, the Tahoe looks like the older 70s 'Burban in a few ways.<p>GMC better damn well offer that stupid chameleon graphite blue color as a color option on their Tahoe clone. They've slapped that shade of paint of all of their concepts since the Terradyne. Make it like a signature color for their Chevy clones. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/werd.gif" BORDER="0">

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>sc43018</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>yea... that and its offroad ability, luxurious interior, and arguably the most beautiful SUV on the road. You must be right, the brand and badge are just about it <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>here are some of the cars I would take over the RR and all of them I can have 20k or more save and buy another car <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>1) X5<br>2) Escalade<br>3) LX470<br>4) Touareg<br>4) Land Cruiser<br>5) H2<br>6) Denali<br>7) QX56<p>These are maybes<br>1) M Class<br>2) GX470<br>3) SRX<br>4) FX<br>5) Sequoia<br>6) MDX<br>7) Armada<br>8) Pathfinder<p>Should I keep going?

piokor

02-16-2005, 08:47 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>here are some of the cars I would take over the RR and all of them I can have 20k or more save and buy another car <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>1) X5<br>2) Escalade<br>3) LX470<br>4) Touareg<br>4) Land Cruiser<br>5) H2<br>6) Denali<br>7) QX56<p>These are maybes<br>1) M Class<br>2) GX470<br>3) SRX<br>4) FX<br>5) Sequoia<br>6) MDX<br>7) Armada<br>8) Pathfinder<p>Should I keep going?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Looks like you randomly listed every other luxury SUV. The only thing that those SUVs might have that the RR doesn't is your approval. I'm curious, do just not like the RR because it's too expensive? Seriously, you would take the Armada and the QX56 over the RR? Care to explain, because I don't see any reasons as to why someone would do that...

knicks125

02-16-2005, 08:56 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>piokor06</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Looks like you randomly listed every other luxury SUV. The only thing that those SUVs might have that the RR doesn't is your approval. I'm curious, do just not like the RR because it's too expensive? Seriously, you would take the Armada and the QX56 over the RR? Care to explain, because I don't see any reasons as to why someone would do that...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No I did not just list random cars, these are the cars I would take over the RR, purely on a price factor<p>so the anwer is Yes, yes I would...I just can't justify spending 80k (after adding all the goodies) on a car...even if it is the RR. I like the RR a lot but just can't ever see myself in one...that is my opinion, so there is no need for explanation.<p>If someone gave me 80k and I had a choice, maybe I would take the RR over most of these, but I would still take the X5 and the Touareg over the RR, and take the rest of the money buy a tC or something <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

SV

02-16-2005, 09:09 PM

well personally i love the range rover, it makes the armada and QX56 (and most of the other full-size SUVs under $50k) look under-engineered in comparison.<p>anyway, back on topic, i wish the big 3 could actually give their cars a complete makeover every 5-7 years like the japanese companies, instead of reskinning them every 5 years or so and hoping the public won't notice...GM's lucky this time though because the tahoe/suburban/yukon etc. are very good full-size SUVs, and a reskin would solve their major problems - poor interior quality and an (IMO) dated exterior.

CarMattZu777

02-16-2005, 09:24 PM

Wait so its not a full redesign?? What?? That platform is mega old, it has to be the oldest one in the US, isnt it?? like 1990?

Naga Royal Guard

02-16-2005, 09:26 PM

silvarado was released 97 or 98

Santeno

02-17-2005, 08:46 AM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CarMattZu777</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wait so its not a full redesign?? What?? That platform is mega old, it has to be the oldest one in the US, isnt it?? like 1990?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>No the platform of the Lincoln Town Car / Ford Crown Vcitoria is even older (It goes back to the 1970's). There are also several engines whose basic design is quite a bit older than that.

Naga Royal Guard

02-17-2005, 09:02 AM

the W body used in the DTS/Lucerne is prety old too<p>and the Silverado frame isnt as old as Carmattzu thinks

CarMattZu777

02-17-2005, 10:05 PM

Well the Suburban didnt change much in looks betwen the early 90s and 98. So I assumed they were the same. But still, its not that great of a platform, but I understand they probably are short on money, so thats probably why. But compares to newer entries like Pathfinder, Armada, Durango, and others, can it really make that much of an impact?

Naga Royal Guard

02-17-2005, 10:14 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CarMattZu777</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well the Suburban didnt change much in looks betwen the early 90s and 98. So I assumed they were the same.<b> But still, its not that great of a platform,</b> but I understand they probably are short on money, so thats probably why. But compares to newer entries like Pathfinder, Armada, Durango, and others, can it really make that much of an impact?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>its a ladder-type truck chassis, tell us what makes this particular one " not great"

Naga Royal Guard

02-18-2005, 09:24 PM

yea matt, thats what i suspected; come here and BASH GM for no reason, then cant back up your false claims <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

syclone

02-20-2005, 12:58 PM

Shhh... he's busy cheating on his Ascender with a BMW.

CarMattZu777

02-20-2005, 01:52 PM

No, its just that my friend has a Suburban, and it feels ancient compared to other large SUVs i've been in such as Seqouia and even our GM Ascender. I dont bas GM alot, well not undeservedly, but the Suburban is just way behind everything else on the market. Im not saying it shouldnt be body-on-frame, because thats definetly how I prefer my SUVs, but something new would be much much better.

Cozz

02-20-2005, 01:53 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>its a ladder-type truck chassis, tell us what makes this particular one " not great"</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's amazing how some one would say that the newer chassis isn't as good as the old when the old one has huge side impact issues. The thing would cave in like a cardboard box. The new one is leaps ahead in side impact technology and over all stiffness.

Cozz

02-20-2005, 01:56 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CarMattZu777</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No, its just that my friend has a Suburban, and it feels ancient compared to other large SUVs i've been in such as Seqouia and even our GM Ascender. I dont bas GM alot, well not undeservedly, but the Suburban is just way behind everything else on the market. Im not saying it shouldnt be body-on-frame, because thats definetly how I prefer my SUVs, but something new would be much much better.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>My freind has a 2002 Z71 fully loaded with rear captain seats. It's not ancient at all. I rather choose that than the ones you mentioned because it "feels" like it can take a beating.

Dodger

02-20-2005, 03:04 PM

I really like the Z71 option and hope they carry it over to the next gen

thegriffon

02-21-2005, 10:40 AM

The Japanese don't give you a completely new car either. Platforms are updated not completely redesigned, just as GM has done with the W-body cars (from GM10 to MS2000 and now to the latest version) and the "G-body" (including H-, C-, K- and K-spec vehicles). The "new" US Odyssey still has a space where the spare wheel used to be.<p>THe GMT 900s uae an updated version of the GMT 800 ladder frame. Rather than design a whole new frame every 7 years, GM has been making continual improvements. More improvements will come with the GMT 900s, along with new powertrains and suspensions, new body designs and new interiors.<p>Ford's "Panther" vehicles all recieved a new underbody frame a few years ago, even though the bodies weren't noticably updated. Just because the VIN codes haven't changed, doesn't mean it's not a new platform. The Daewoo Magnus (Suzuki Verona) still has the same VIN code as the GTO (V-body) and it's not even rwd anymore.<p>Oh and a fully optioned Escalade ESV Platinum Edition is over $70K, and reportedly can be much more expensive with additional accessories.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by thegriffon at 10:03 AM 2/21/2005</i>

Naga Royal Guard

02-21-2005, 10:42 AM

arnt the new Panther chassis hydroformed?

Denali

02-21-2005, 07:56 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SV</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well personally i love the range rover, it makes the armada and QX56 (and most of the other full-size SUVs under $50k) look under-engineered in comparison..</TD></TR></TABLE><p>hands down the RR is the BEST SUV, but there are others that RIGHT on its tail,<br>2nd. LX 470<br>3rd. Navigator<br>4th. QX45<br>5th. Escalade<br><IMG SRC="http://motortrend.com/roadtests/suv/112_0407_heart01_l.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>n i will drive anyone of those trucks

knicks125

02-22-2005, 05:24 AM

There is a difference between owning one and talking about it being the best SUV. Granted, it is a great SUV, heck, I would like one too, but how many RRs are actually sold vs. the rest of its competitors. When it comes to taking out your checkbook, I'm not sure if you'd still be doing a lot of talking. Personally I know only one person that has the RR, and she got it b/c her family's got tons of money. I am pretty sure most of the RR sales, at least in US, are to entertainers or people with some status worth

Charger

02-22-2005, 11:24 AM

This spy pic looks very similar to the uncovered pic on the first page<br><A HREF="http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/0205dspy-chevy-lg.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://media.popularmechanics....g.jpg</A><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Talking Tahoe<br>Shoppers will see a number of styling changes when the 2006 Chevrolet Tahoe hits showrooms. All of the exterior sheetmetal--except for the roof--is new. Up front is a larger grille with a wider, taller section for air intake and markedly changed headlight shape--large, trapezoidal shapes house the driving lights and the amber turn signals. Front bumpers dip down in the center to make space for the deeper grille while housing small, round running lights. A raised hood section blends in with the taller grille. Chevy continues its horizontal bar grille theme, with a bar that stops between the headlights instead of stretching the full distance from side to side. At the body sides both front and rear wheel arches are more pronounced, and carry the angular theme of the grille in their larger shapes. A minor point, except to Tahoe aficionados, is the deletion of the grilles on the D-pillar.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>source: PM

Charger

03-02-2005, 04:44 PM

I dont know if this pic is in this thread, I would check but the site is too slow so I dont care if it has already been posted<br> <IMG SRC="http://img108.exs.cx/img108/2451/mt2007tahoe8ps.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>source: MT

against the wall

03-02-2005, 06:00 PM

that doesnt look much like a redesign but a facelift. and a pretty ugly one

Nick

03-03-2005, 12:14 AM

I can't remember, but I thought that was like a popular mechanics rendering or a motor trend rendering or something...

gkracer98

03-03-2005, 08:47 PM

i dont like that rendering...i hope it looks better than that. The headlights remind me of the pre 99 Grand Cherokee's

nstreet16

03-10-2005, 12:18 PM

I read somewhere, forgot where tho, that Cadillac was got a focus group together to look at the future escalade... the focus group was made up of stars that currently or would own an Escalade and that GM showed it to them. And they all had like minor things that they wanted to change about it. But overall liked the design. One person that was there was Xhibit and he was like talking about twenty something inch flat panel tvs in the car. stuff like that... but if the stars like it... maybe it might turn out looking good?

Nick

03-10-2005, 10:24 PM

I believe this is what you're talking about...<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Star-studded sneak preview: General Motors enlists celebrities to critique new Cadillac Escalade<br>JASON STEIN | Automotive News<br>Posted Date: 3/4/05<p>Eighteen months ago on a Hollywood sound stage, General Motors hosted a hush-hush meeting for 35 of the biggest names in entertainment.<p>No names were publicized. Videotaped remarks were kept private. One new vehicle was unveiled.<p>This trendsetting group included NBA and NHL stars. It included TV actors, movie producers, hip-hop artists and jazz musicians. Some were teenagers, others were 40 years old.<p>These tastemakers had gathered to see the 2007 Cadillac Escalade, which debuts next January. They are a small but significant band of trendsetters that Cadillac is consulting for its future product.<p>The sneak preview marks a significant change in GM's marketing strategy. When the current Escalade debuted in 2001, it was a hit with athletes and hip-hop artists who loved its roomy interior and in-your-face styling.<p>Caught by surprise, Cadillac had done nothing special to cultivate them. But this time, it sought out the trendsetters to catalog their likes and dislikes -- and generate buzz.<p>"We wanted to put the Escalade out in front of the people recognized as understanding 'cool,' " says Cadillac Marketing Director Jay Spenchian. "We wanted to see if they thought we were headed in the right direction. That way we still had time to make some modifications if we needed to."<p>Brainstorm session<p>The sneak preview took shape in late summer 2003 during a brainstorming session attended by GM executives including Chairman Rick Wagoner and John Smith, group vice president for vehicle sales.<p>"Is there any way to get current and future Escalades in front of them to see if it's the right direction?" Wagoner asked.<p>Smith and the Cadillac team arranged a special focus group.<p>One day in September 2003, GM ushered the tastemakers to the studio for back-to-back sneak previews. Most of the influencers in the group owned at least one Escalade.<p>Attending the Hollywood sessions were GM design chief Ed Welburn, Cadillac Vehicle Line Director Gary White, Cadillac Marketing General Manager Mark LaNeve, Escalade Marketing Director Kim McGill, Spenchian and the Escalade's design directors.<p>Behind the curtain<p>Spenchian declined to identify the VIPs, but one source says some of the attendees included NBA players from the Los Angeles Lakers and Clippers, several leading actors from the TV sitcom "That '70s Show" and some of the celebrities invited to GM's pre-Oscar fashion show last week. The 30-minute sessions ran from 1:30 p.m. to 9 p.m. One by one, each tastemaker navigated a labyrinth of large black curtains that separated several vehicles. Behind each curtain was a new model bathed in dramatic lighting.<p>Each VIP saw the Cadillac Sixteen concept sedan, followed by the current Escalade. They viewed the "Matrix" special-edition model of the Cadillac Escalade EXT, as seen in the movie by the same name, plus a prototype Escalade ESV Platinum edition, a vehicle with two ceiling-mounted TV screens and 20-inch chrome wheels.<p>Behind the final curtain was a black foam model of the 2007 Escalade, with a newly created clay model interior. Hidden cameras captured the tastemakers' reactions.<p>"We watched where their eyes went initially," says Cadillac spokesman Jeff Kuhlman, who attended the event.<p>The tastemakers did not recommend any significant changes to the sheet metal, which was just as well, since GM already had locked in the Escalade's exterior styling.<p>Focus groups are more commonly employed earlier in a vehicle's development, while there's still time for GM to alter the sheet metal. But for the new Escalade, other adjustments were still possible.<p>A lot of input<p>Cadillac learned a lot during the preview. The tastemakers offered suggestions for new colors and trim, wheels, the audio system, engine choices, exhaust modifications and placement of the Cadillac crest.<p>"That crest," Welburn says. "I heard over and over they wanted it large in the front and large in the rear and on the wheels and other unique areas."<p>Each tastemaker also had a chance to spell out his or her preferences in one-on-one chats with a designer. Normally, GM designers don't get instant feedback from focus group participants, Spenchian says.<p>But a problem arose: Some athletes stretched their 30-minute briefings into two-hour sessions. "I was given the assignment of moving the NBA stars out of the way," Welburn says. "Most of them didn't want to leave."<p>One VIP attendee was rapper Xzibit, emcee of MTV's "Pimp My Ride," a hit TV show that offers a tongue-in-cheek glimpse of the good life on wheels. Xzibit suggested modifications such as a rear hatch window that could be lowered and larger DVD screens -- "certain things you wish you could see in a car."<p>"Cadillac knows that we, as hip-hop artists, are spokesmen for some of their products," says Xzibit, who owns a Hummer H2. "We add a lot of aftermarket accessories to their cars. And if they can beat us to the punch -- if they can find out what we'd do after they make it -- they could put it into production first."<p>After the briefing, GM made subtle changes to the Escalade's color palette, wheel sizes and interior.<p>Cadillac also will create an advertising campaign that plays off the tastemakers' reaction to the vehicle.<p>Not everyone at GM thought the use of the influencers was a great idea. Spenchian says some staffers considered data from the VIP focus group to be unscientific -- therefore a waste of time.<p>"But, ultimately, we were impressed by the results," Spenchian says.<p>Cadillac will use VIP focus groups for selected vehicles such as the next-generation Cadillac CTS. Says Spenchian: "Rather than us sitting around thinking something is cool, why not get others who are cool to verify that for us?"<br>Related Stories<br></TD></TR></TABLE>

Charger

03-13-2005, 07:47 PM

nothing new. TCC was a bit late with this one <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <br><A HREF="http://thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=8283&sid=178&n=158" TARGET="_blank">http://thecarconnection.com/in...n=158</A>

JBlair

03-13-2005, 08:08 PM

Front looks like a mix of the CSV, Equinox and Trailblazer. The rearr looks sort of odd, but I can't put my finger on why.

Charger

03-13-2005, 08:17 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Front looks like a mix of the CSV, Equinox and Trailblazer. The rearr looks sort of odd, but I can't put my finger on why. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Maybe the back end looks weird because we're not used to Tahoe/Suburban having body colored D pillars. Also the lights are touching the corners of the window and I just dont really like that. I dunno

Naga Royal Guard

03-13-2005, 08:22 PM

seeing more and more of the GM CSVs around, they dont look bad at all

LEXUS FAN!

03-18-2005, 08:09 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Charger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nothing new. TCC was a bit late with this one <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <br><A HREF="http://thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=8283&sid=178&n=158" TARGET="_blank">http://thecarconnection.com/in...n=158</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>is that real or is it a CGI. <p>if it is real how did they get it because it so small and it is from such a weird angle?

Charger

03-18-2005, 08:15 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LEXUS FAN!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is that real or is it a CGI. <p>if it is real how did they get it because it so small and it is from such a weird angle?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Im pretty sure its real but I have no idea why such a weird angle.

erzhik

03-18-2005, 09:11 PM

I personally like only 3 SUV's..G class, Range Rover, X5...Cadillac should really do something with their Escalade...I mean it's ok on the outside, but inside..man.. it's a damn bus on the inside..ugly... compare the interior of Range Rover and Escalade..Range is so much better

skoochythatone

03-20-2005, 03:08 PM

I personally do not consider the Cadillac Escalade an SUV. Of course it was among the first to market that segment on a bigger scale than earlier models, but it certainly has become more of a "lifestyle"-"jeepish" kinda vehicle. I have never ever seen a Cadillac Escalade offroad. So comparing an Escalade to a G-Class, RR or other cars in that segment is kinda inappropriate if you ask me, no offense.

knicks125

03-21-2005, 08:38 AM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>erzhik</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I personally like only 3 SUV's..G class, Range Rover, X5...Cadillac should really do something with their Escalade...I mean it's ok on the outside, but inside..man.. it's a damn bus on the inside..ugly... compare the interior of Range Rover and Escalade..Range is so much better</TD></TR></TABLE><p>as much as i don't like the escalade, you just can't really compare it to the rr...it wouldn't be a fair comparison, same thing as you can't compare apples to oranges...price for one, rr is 20k more expensive than escalade <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">

<A HREF="http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15642" TARGET="_blank">http://www.cheersandgears.com/...15642</A><br><A HREF="http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15563" TARGET="_blank">http://www.cheersandgears.com/...15563</A><br><A HREF="http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15695" TARGET="_blank">http://www.cheersandgears.com/...15695</A><p>Pictures of the HVAC and Radio controls, hood shipping diagrams, as well as the first pics of the general dash design. (which looks a lot like the CSV design)

IcedG35

04-28-2005, 07:53 PM

these have to be some of the oddest spy shots i've ever seen....<p>looks like they will use a more traditional dash with a center stack....its about time. dash and guages look very clean, especailly the one with the nav screen. i just hope they use some sort of trim over all that plastic.

Roadster44

04-28-2005, 08:00 PM

Range and Sclade appeal to some type of audience. But yes you cannot compare the two in terms of quality and such.

Chris_Doane

04-28-2005, 09:52 PM

3 more photos of the Suburban:<br><A HREF="http://www.autospies.com/article/category.asp?categoryId=12" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autospies.com/artic...Id=12</A>

Will these thing's be engineered for RHD market's aswell?? Holden really need's some SUV's in it's lineup!!

Charger

04-29-2005, 07:21 AM

Are there any major size differences in this one and the current one? This thing looks bigger to me, probably just the camo.

Dodger

04-29-2005, 08:20 AM

I thought the same thing. Maybe they are trying to gain some of the size back that they lost in the last redesign. Then again it could just be the camo like you said. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

LEXUS FAN!

04-29-2005, 08:32 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Explorer_97</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">3 more photos of the Suburban:<br><A HREF="http://www.autospies.com/article/category.asp?categoryId=12" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autospies.com/artic...Id=12</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>i think that is the suburban becasue it has a chevy grille

Chris_Doane

04-30-2005, 08:43 AM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LEXUS FAN!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>i think that is the suburban becasue it has a chevy grille</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes. That's why I said "3 more photos of the Suburban."

arent they basically the same car with different logos. i think this is the yukon xl and not the suburban cuz unless theres extra camo on the logo on the grille, the logo is much 2 big to be the chevy logo. bt yea they can b easily confused if u cover up all of the logos.

LEXUS FAN!

05-05-2005, 08:06 PM

the headlights look pretty clear in those pics...i guess we have a pretty good idea of what it is going to look like now

These things do look more immense. It shouldn't be a problem as long as they get better gas mileage than the current ones... When are they introducing their 'Displacement on Demand'? Will that show up on these? DCX is making their multi-displacement standard on all Hemi's (5.7's at least) for the '06 model year.

VexedandGlorious

05-16-2005, 01:44 PM

from the looks of it ,it may be the ESV model...if it makes it to next gen.<br>that tahoe looks kinda samll...isnt the tahoe the smallest out of the new fullsize suvs.

against the wall

05-16-2005, 02:38 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Banker</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I love the Escalade wheels.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>banker i think those rims are available on a current escalade because someone around the corner from me has an esv platinum edition with those rims and they look really good in person

Banker

05-16-2005, 02:53 PM

The current ESV Platinum offers similar rims. They are 20 inch nine spoke rims (check the cadillac website). The ones in the Spy picture are only seven spoke rims.<p>They are less delicate looking with an emphasis on power.<p>I like the ones in the spy picture better. They appear to be at least 20 inches.

Charger

05-27-2005, 07:38 AM

<A HREF="http://www.autospies.com/images/5-26-05/cadillac_spypic/1.JPG" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autospies.com/image...1.JPG</A><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Built on the new GMT900 platform, re-styled and re-engineered, here are the very first pictures of the upcoming Escalade! Even wrapped in camouflage, there is no question as to what this super-sized SUV is  especially with the huge Cadillac headlamps showing through the black masking.<p>General Motors is speeding up the introduction of all of their GMT900 vehicles  including the upcoming Tahoe, Yukon, Escalade and more  and we expect to see a major product introduction at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit next January, with many of the 2007 GMT900 SUVs on sale soon afterwards.<p>Besides sheetmetal and engineering changes, we hear that the Escalade will have improved road handling with its multi-link independent rear suspension system.<p>Brenda Priddy & Company. <p>Auto Spies prediction: Our sources tell us the undisguised version looks like the Cadillac Sixteen concept in the front and the SRX from the rear.<p>Look for a power flat fold down third seat ala the Navigator, next gen night vision, virtual bumper system (like parktronic but works all around the car), and multiple trim packages including 'real granite' trim.<p></TD></TR></TABLE>

Banker

05-27-2005, 08:52 AM

Where are they getting this information?<p>IRS<br>Virtual Bumper<br>Granite Trim

Redline

05-27-2005, 11:16 AM

I more want to know who actually wants granite trim in their car and what idiot approved it if they are going to have it.

VexedandGlorious

05-27-2005, 12:08 PM

well AMG uses a stone trim in there interior and it looks good, dont think granite as its going to be rough,its going to be smooth like wood trim is.i keep thinking its going to make the truck heavier.<p>and autospies gets there info from other people that talk to dealers, and then they give autospies the info.

Jordmaniac

06-05-2005, 02:45 PM

on spy pic 1, notice the grill cover and look closly, there are 2 sections of grill. this is really a pontiac.

against the wall

06-05-2005, 03:17 PM

it is definetly not a pontiac. gm even said that the unveiling of the gmt900 trucks is going to be in naias in january. they stated the models that were gonna b on the platform and i dont think they said pontiac. plus what you think is the grille division is just the camo. u can see where they covered up the logo. i think they made that camo so people who saw the car with the camo would make it seem like it has something else but its just the camo.

JBlair

06-05-2005, 07:21 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Jordmaniac</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">on spy pic 1, notice the grill cover and look closly, there are 2 sections of grill. this is really a pontiac.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>POntiac is not, and will not be, a full-line brand. No GMT900 will be built wearing the pontiac badge.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by JBlair at 5:12 PM 6/8/2005</i>

dgiam

06-07-2005, 08:00 PM

Does anyone know whether the seating in the 2007 Tahoe will have more "friendly" third row seats? The current models have to be tumbled or removed.....will they redesign them to fold into the floor? Thanks

FordRules

06-08-2005, 01:25 PM

dgiam i think the gmt900's will have irs so i think they will fold into the floor-if you need info on the gmt-900's go to gminsidenews.com lots of info there

kevinb120

06-14-2005, 12:22 PM

I wonder if they are doing completely different interiors each for yukon/escalade/tahoe and using IRS suspension. If not its a has-been from the get-go yet again.

JBlair

06-14-2005, 03:46 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>kevinb120</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wonder if they are doing completely different interiors each for yukon/escalade/tahoe and using IRS suspension. If not its a has-been from the get-go yet again. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>The interior for the Escalade will be substantially different in terms of the trim and switchgear, but the general dash layout for them all will be pretty much the same. I don't think IRS will be available on any version of the GMT900, and I have seen nothing on GMI or CheersandGears to say otherwise. GM usually sticks pretty close to the formula they've had, so unless something drastic has changed, it will be a Live Axle at the rear. Don't discount it immediately though, because I've been hearing that the Live Axle sprung TrailBlazer SS has excellent handling and abilities.

Charger

06-15-2005, 02:20 PM

<A HREF="http://www.detnews.com/pix/2005/06/15/drive/dr15-sneak-0605n_06-15-2005_CQ6KJUL.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.detnews.com/pix/200...L.jpg</A><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">New-look Escalade to debut at 2006 Detroit Auto Show<p><br> Consumers will get their first official glimpse of the redesigned 2007 Cadillac Escalade in January at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit. In the meantime, spy photographers have been snapping images of prototype vehicles wearing heavy camouflage and undergoing engineering shakedown tests.<br> Beneath the camo, the sheet metal is all-new, but not radically different from that of the current model. If anything, the 07 Escalade will get an even more aggressive face with a more prominent chrome grille, while retaining Cadillacs signature edgy styling.<br> Inside, the vehicle is being revamped and upgraded, with more refinement and features planned.<br> <br> -- Paul Lienert </TD></TR></TABLE><br>source: detnews

JBlair

06-15-2005, 02:47 PM

The way that camo is, it almost looks like the Escalade will be getting a face very similar to the STS/SRX's.

DerPhaeton

06-15-2005, 06:58 PM

I keep seeing this picture being called the escalade but no one has pointed out the one distnguishing feature of the escalade thatll most likely be carried over. The chrome roof rack. this picutre does not have it at all, and is most likely a yukon xl or suburban not the escalade. Also if you look at the bigger version of the pic, youll notice the slightly red center of the grill, read: GMC. so a yukon XL it is.

FordRules

06-15-2005, 07:09 PM

thought so

JBlair

06-15-2005, 09:37 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DerPhaeton</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I keep seeing this picture being called the escalade but no one has pointed out the one distnguishing feature of the escalade thatll most likely be carried over. The chrome roof rack. this picutre does not have it at all, and is most likely a yukon xl or suburban not the escalade. Also if you look at the bigger version of the pic, youll notice the slightly red center of the grill, read: GMC. so a yukon XL it is.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Companies rarely, if ever, put a detail like that on a vehicle when its out testing on public roads, ESPECIALLY when it is part of a group of vehicles that will share a majority of its sheetmetal with the rest of the group. (photogs will look for distinguishing features like that)<p>At this point I am inclined to still believe it is the Escalade, since there is no 'GMC' in the grille, nor does this pic match up with any other Yukon pic. One thing to pay attention to is the wheels as well; these wheels are different than any of the other spy pics, and the tires look to be less trucky than the Yukon and Suburban/Tahoe pics. Also check out the grille; we already have spy pics of the GMC version where the logo is mostly visible, and yet it is completely covered here. Just some things to take into consideration.<p><br><i>Modified by JBlair at 12:48 AM 6/16/2005</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by JBlair at 12:51 AM 6/16/2005</i>

DerPhaeton

06-15-2005, 11:07 PM

Actually your wrong again. The escalade has already been seen with production chrome roof rack, wheels, and side boards with chrome trim. <p><A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/pictures/VEHICLE/2007/Cadillac/100394209/20024872-E.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.edmunds.com/picture...E.jpg</A><p>Unless this is an incredibly old pic, this is what is coming soon.<br>Also, have you considered that the white vehicle with the low profile tires might just be the yukon xl denali? the current one has the regular roof rack. your right about the tires, but i think that this is the denali.

Banker

06-16-2005, 09:58 AM

You are correct about the Escalade spy pic... the black one is the escalade not the other one... it is probably the Denali

SOLAR

06-16-2005, 06:58 PM

i know i should read the whole thread, but can someone recap in a list of whats supposed to change on the escalade?

Banker

06-17-2005, 11:26 AM

New exterior, new interior, new transmission.

Nick

06-17-2005, 11:48 PM

possibly new engine for the escalade also...

FordRules

06-18-2005, 09:57 AM

6.0L VOTEC with 400hp!!!

JBlair

06-18-2005, 01:25 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ford_rules</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">6.0L VOTEC with 400hp!!!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That is supposedly one of the engines on tap, but the guys on the GM forums have been hinting at a smaller V8 that still makes around 300 hp.

FordRules

06-20-2005, 10:57 PM

yes 5.3L vortec V8 with 355 horses

mrimpala

07-13-2005, 09:37 AM

great thanks again. ill tell u this much the dash on the escalade is bad ass

Santeno

07-13-2005, 09:38 AM

Perhaps you might want to elaborate with an actual description. Just saying is bad ass doesn't add to the discussion.

mrimpala

07-13-2005, 09:39 AM

all digital with blue backlighting

Santeno

07-13-2005, 09:43 AM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mrimpala</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all digital with blue backlighting </TD></TR></TABLE><br>anything else? General shape? Materials? layout? specific design quirks? I assume that you mean that the driving instruments are layed out in digital format and are blue lit. That sounds odd (though plausible) since GM had huge resitance to digital instruments when it tried to use them in older generations of models. Even the corvette was forced to go back to using analog instrument displays. Interesting.

mrimpala

07-13-2005, 09:50 AM

<br>ive been contacted by GM they are gonna give me 5,000 for the pictures and to remove them. <p><br>LOL not really but its funny nonetheless <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by mrimpala at 5:07 PM 7/14/2005</i>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mrimpala</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">here you go some of you people think i am lying well here is the 07 tahoe now u can all run and post it all over the net. <p><A HREF="http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6803/tahoe228rk.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img338.imageshack.us/im...k.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9740/tahoe6fs.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img101.imageshack.us/im...s.jpg</A><p>the black front end in the top right is the escalade front end <p><A HREF="http://img322.imageshack.us/img322/2580/post165141121215826n2wm.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img322.imageshack.us/im...m.jpg</A></TD></TR></TABLE><br>Very clean looking front end. For a large truck, that is one very nicely integrated set of front end components. Handsome yet simple. Stands out yet remains unassuming. I'm still partial to the general look of DCX full size truck over these, but I have to admit that from a styling point of view there has been a considerable increase in attention to detail on this over the previous generation. <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 3:24 PM 7/13/2005</i>

LEXUS FAN!

07-13-2005, 11:22 AM

wow...the front and the grill look awesome<p>i really want to see the front of the escalade to see if it looks like every other cadillac...so far the back looks very similar

nismo

07-13-2005, 12:13 PM

What an improvement. The styling is extremely clean for a full-size SUV, but with these gas prices I hope GM is not looking for these alone to save them. But a really good design none the less... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

StevenZoz

07-13-2005, 04:03 PM

the backs on the tahoe and escalade are so similar though... if u look at them now the lights are different shape and color. the only difference in these are one little part. and if you look at the pic with the back of the escalade u can see another escalade in the background. same rims so probably and escalade. and on the pic of the tahoe's rear u can see what probably is a denali in the back. and impala, where did u get these pics?

Nick

07-13-2005, 04:18 PM

GM's full size SUV's have best in class mileage, and supposedly these will come with DoD and I believe they will be hybrids like the hybrid silverado...it should get very good gas mileage...as far as the rear lights go, I at first thought the same thing, but I noticed the Escalades lights lite up differently and it uses LED's...it's a different configuration, but it uses the same overall shape...I am sure with some different pics it would look much different...

tosil

07-13-2005, 04:35 PM

Well, all I can say is good job GM... this looks better than I expected, especially the Tahoe. Panel gaps seem to be very tight. License plate location on the rear tailgate is also an improvement... I think the public that is in the market for this kind of vehicle will eat it all up...all we need now is some interior pics....good stuff! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0">

caarmike

07-13-2005, 05:11 PM

Things like this happen. this is not the first "insider" photo to appear of the 2007 Tahoe, in fact a shot of it showed up in Popular Mechanics two years ago, and there's also been a studio shot of the Avalanche circulating (on this very site I believe). Anyway whats done is done and GM should let these photos go. They have a lot to be proud of with this design. I like the low and wide stance of these SUVs. I usually don't like large SUV styling at all, but these are all right.

against the wall

07-13-2005, 05:13 PM

u are absolutley right about gm letting the photos go. i dont remember seein an avalanche?

LEXUS FAN!

07-13-2005, 05:22 PM

i don't think there is an avalanche

Krypton

07-13-2005, 05:58 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LEXUS FAN!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i don't think there is an avalanche</TD></TR></TABLE><p>There is, the actual image looks like the small spy pic in moter trend, you cant tell much since its so tiny but i dont think it had all the cladding the current one has

LEXUS FAN!

07-13-2005, 06:16 PM

is it in the newest issue of MT?<p>is this the image??? i found it in the topic<p><A HREF="http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/pictures/VEHICLE/2007/Chevrolet/100536543/20024969-E.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332...E.jpg</A>

nismo

07-13-2005, 06:45 PM

Yeah I remember the Avalanche pic. It was a side profile shot with it in silver or white. They said it was used in a consumer clinic. It looked clean just like these pics... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">

Krypton

07-13-2005, 06:47 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LEXUS FAN!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is it in the newest issue of MT?<p>is this the image??? i found it in the topic<p><A HREF="http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/pictures/VEHICLE/2007/Chevrolet/100536543/20024969-E.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332...E.jpg</A></TD></TR></TABLE><br>no it was really old, it came out the same time that tiny pic of the tahoe came out. I think their was a thread on the old forum

Dodger

07-13-2005, 06:55 PM

I have always liked the current style full-size SUV's from GM and this new Tahoe looks really nice. I hope they do get decent mileage for the consumer's sake. I think a good idea to get these off the lot is to lower the MSRP compared to the current ones, at least for a little while. The current ones can get a little overpriced in my opinion.

LEXUS FAN!

07-13-2005, 07:02 PM

i got this from the old forum...i think you are talking about this one<p><A HREF="http://www.chevyavalanchefanclub.com/attachments/av9.JPG" TARGET="_blank">http://www.chevyavalanchefancl...9.JPG</A><p><A HREF="http://carspyshots.proboards2.com/index.cgi?board=spy&action=display&thread=1073428297" TARGET="_blank">http://carspyshots.proboards2....28297</A>

tavrvs

07-13-2005, 07:41 PM

The front end reminds me considerably of the Uplander, actually the rear does too a little bit - I suppose that's the new corporate look... Am I the only one who sees the resemblance? Definitely better looking than the Uplander though.

LEXUS FAN!

07-13-2005, 07:50 PM

you're correct...it does have some uplander style in it...especially with the grill

Krypton

07-13-2005, 07:53 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LEXUS FAN!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got this from the old forum...i think you are talking about this one<p><A HREF="http://www.chevyavalanchefanclub.com/attachments/av9.JPG" TARGET="_blank">http://www.chevyavalanchefancl...9.JPG</A><p><A HREF="http://carspyshots.proboards2.com/index.cgi?board=spy&action=display&thread=1073428297" TARGET="_blank">http://carspyshots.proboards2....28297</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>yup thats it, the back of the escalade looks a bit like the srx

against the wall

07-13-2005, 08:26 PM

ok now i remember those avalance pics along with the one with camo on.

Banker

07-14-2005, 08:11 AM

Are there any pictures of the interior?<p>The exterior looks clean and trim. It does not have the bloated look of the expedition.

Santeno

07-14-2005, 08:18 AM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Banker</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are there any pictures of the interior?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Some sites have pictures of interior components, but pictures of the completed interior have yet to surface. <p>Page 1 of this old PDF shows the general shape of the GMC front end:<p><A HREF="http://www.fngok.com/JAN%20FNG.pdf" TARGET="_blank">http://www.fngok.com/JAN%20FNG.pdf</A><p>here are some pics from G&G (look through the entire threads) that show the general shape of the dashboard as well as some of the interior components:<p><A HREF="http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15695" TARGET="_blank">http://www.cheersandgears.com/...15695</A><p><A HREF="http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15642" TARGET="_blank">http://www.cheersandgears.com/...15642</A><p><br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 12:41 PM 7/14/2005</i>

Santeno

07-14-2005, 09:14 AM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Comrade</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The new one looks great I don't remember seing this much positive criticism from members on a new car, everybody finds something they don't like about a certain car, this tho is close to perfect. I think this this will age just as well as the current one. <p>Have you noticed if the Escalade has a sort of sharp front like all the other Cadillacs? or to be exact, that line that goes from the middle bumper, up the grill and through the hood back to the windshield like in this picture?:<p><IMG SRC="http://www.cadillac.com/images/models/escalade/gallery/photoExt6_med.jpg" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE>

LoneWolf

07-14-2005, 11:25 AM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Some sites have pictures of interior components, but pictures of the completed interior have yet to surface. <p>Page 1 of this old PDF shows the general shape of the GMC front end:<p><A HREF="http://www.fngok.com/JAN%20FNG.pdf" TARGET="_blank">http://www.fngok.com/JAN%20FNG.pdf</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Is it just me, or does something (other than the grille itself, of course, about the front facia in that pdf remind you of the new-for-'04 Ford F-150?

Nick

07-14-2005, 01:40 PM

I always thought it looked very envoy-ish....I guess if you were to look at a current envoy in that kind of perspective you would probably get the same feeling...

Banker

07-14-2005, 05:56 PM

New Theory - The trucks in these pictures look to be production ready and I feel that Mr Impala has stumbled on to a surprise attack that GM is planning on making on the Truck/SUV market.<p>These vehicles look to be ready for production. Many of the posts that have appeard in various websites over the past year seem to indicate that GM is planning on introducing these early next year - up from the original timeframe of summer/fall 2006 as a 2007 model. Yet all this time we keep seeing more and more evidence that in fact the time frame is much sooner.<p>I predict that in an effort to get the high profit SUVs and trucks on the market GM will have the following product roll-out:<p>September 2005:<br>2006 Chevy Tahoe <br>2006 GMC Yukon<br>2006 Cadillac Escalade<br>January 2006:<br>2007 Chevy Suburban<br>2007 GMC Yukon XL<br>2007 GMC Yukon Denali<br>2007 GMC Yukon Denali XL<br>2007 Cadillac Escalade ESV<p>March/April 2006:<br>2007 Avalanche<br>2007 Cadillac Escalade EXT<p>Early Summer 2006:<br>2007 Chevy Trucks<br>2007 GMC Trucks<p>With Toyota gaining market share GM can not afford for Toyota to introduce their new Texas Built Tundra the summer of 2006 with only the promise of a 2007 truck on the horizon.<p>I may be completely wrong... but I predict that GM has something up its sleeve and we will all be surprised that these production ready vehicles will be on the market this fall to blow away the competition and to start bringing in high dollar sales with zero incentives and no rebates.<p>What you are looking at folks is the kind of run away surprise success that the Chrysler 300 was to the American Sedan market that the new GMT900s will be to the American Truck Market.<p>I go down on the record - and this is just based on a hunch and much following the blogs over the past year... <p>Those are 2006 Trucks!!!!!<p>Mark my words.

FordRules

07-14-2005, 06:33 PM

the new 2007 super dutys will have the f150 interior so i think ford will keep their market share and leadership in the truck market

Banker

07-14-2005, 09:02 PM

Based on much discussion and putting the pieces together I predict that these 2006 SUVs will be introduced in 78 days at the Texas State Fair... the same place that GM introduced the current fullsize SUVs. They are manufactured in Arlington Texas and Texas is their largest market. They will probably go on sale shortly there after with the full size Suburban, Yukon XL and Escalade ESVs being introduced at Detroit.

Nick

07-14-2005, 09:11 PM

yea, I have been hearing a lot of talk about them being shown at the Texas state fair...also from what I have heard (correct me if I'm wrong) but I believe they are to start production November 28th...

Banker

07-14-2005, 09:21 PM

Yes, I just read that tonight on another forum. It looks like these are 2006 models. At the rate GM is out to "surprise" the market, I wouldn't be surprised if production started before the official date circulated in the memo that carried the 11/28/05 date.<p>We shall see.

against the wall

07-14-2005, 09:26 PM

does gm have like something to do with every state's state fair because 2 years ago at the ny state fair there were chevys on display all over the place. they even had n equinox on display which was kinda cool. the weirdest thing was they had a butter sculpture of people standing around a tahoe which was also made out of butter.

JBlair

07-14-2005, 09:41 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Banker</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, I just read that tonight on another forum. It looks like these are 2006 models. At the rate GM is out to "surprise" the market, I wouldn't be surprised if production started before the official date circulated in the memo that carried the 11/28/05 date.<p>We shall see. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>From what we've heard from people who work at the plant that will produce these vehicles, production has not gone gone beyond the pilot phase for the trucks. I could see GM moving the introduction date up to the Texas state fair, but I doubt that GM will move up the on sale date to september. The earliest I think they would risk pushing it up to would be after the vehicles are 'officially' introduced at NAIAS and LAIAS.

Banker

07-15-2005, 05:08 AM

The Texas State Fair would count as an "Official" introduction since they have a large aut show as part of the Fair. Go to Bigtex.com to see details.<p>I seriously doubt GM will wait to NAIAS to start rolling these out. This is why Zeta was canceled/delayed.<p>

vanquish25

07-15-2005, 07:35 AM

These can't be 2006MY SUV's GM just introed the 2006 GMT800 SUV's with very little changes!

Then they must be 2006.5 model year. Automakers have done that before. These are not 2007 MY.

Nick

07-15-2005, 11:12 AM

These are going to be out first quarter 2006 from what I have gathered...The current 2006 models (which are scheduled for production in August I believe) will be produced along side the new models as kind of like a "classic" version...like what was done with the malibus, or the taurus and fusion, etc...

Santeno

07-15-2005, 11:25 AM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Banker</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Then they must be 2006.5 model year. Automakers have done that before. These are not 2007 MY.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>half year model designations are usually used for refreshed models, not entirelly new models (notice I said usually). If I recall correctly today in the US a car is allowed to carry a subsequent model year designation from the year it is actyually introduced. You no longer have to wait until Q3.

ChevyHHR

07-15-2005, 11:55 AM

The Tahoe will start production in 4Q 2005 and will be in showrooms January of 2006 as a 2007 model.

JBlair

07-15-2005, 02:17 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ChevyHHR</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Tahoe will start production in 4Q 2005 and will be in showrooms January of 2006 as a 2007 model.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sounds pretty good. I believe you, but could you name your source?

Ascariss

07-15-2005, 02:28 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Sounds pretty good. I believe you, but could you name your source?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>perhaps he works for GM or has contacts? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

Nick

07-15-2005, 10:55 PM

Actually, I have just read from an insider over at C&G that thy will start production November 28th, but will begin hitting dealers in late january or february...

StevenZoz

07-16-2005, 06:26 PM

General Motors will launch its next generation of full-sized Chevrolet trucks over about 15 months beginning early next year, dealer sources say.<p>A successful launch is critical to GM's turnaround. GM's full-sized trucks will be re-engineered and restyled for the 2007 model year. GM pushed the launch forward to get fresh versions of its most-profitable vehicles to market quickly.<p>Sales of the 2007 Tahoe SUV will begin in the first quarter of 2006. GM will follow with the Suburban and Avalanche SUVs and the Silverado 1500, 2500 and 3500 pickups.<p>Cadillac and GMC truck models that share components and chassis with the Chevrolet vehicles are expected to follow a similar schedule. The 2007 GMC Yukon and Cadillac Escalade SUVs are expected to debut about the same time as the Tahoe, for example.<p>Chevrolet's top dealers viewed the 2007 full-sized truck lines at a meeting late last month in Palm Springs, Calif. One dealer who attended said dealers saw the 2007 Chevrolet Tahoe, Suburban and Avalanche, "and pictures of the Silverado."<p>The Tahoe's styling is softer and is evolutionary rather than radically different, an industry source says. All sheet metal is new.<p>Dealers were told that the Chevrolet trucks would debut on the following timetable:<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; Tahoe, first quarter 2006<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; Suburban, second quarter 2006<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; Avalanche, third quarter 2006<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; Silverado 1500, fourth quarter 2006<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; Silverado 2500, 3500, first quarter 2007<p>A dealer who asked not to be identified said the Tahoe is expected to arrive in February or March.<p><br>SOURCE: AutoWeek

StevenZoz

07-19-2005, 05:31 PM

for some reason this topic wont let me see anything after my post on the 16th or july. can someone help me. IM me or something on here. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125

07-19-2005, 05:39 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>stevenzoz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for some reason this topic wont let me see anything after my post on the 16th or july. can someone help me. IM me or something on here. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>You were the last one to post in here, that's why <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Actually, a few other posts came by here but were deleted b/c they were not relevant to the topic and/or violated the rules of this forum.

Bass-o-Matic

07-19-2005, 07:19 PM

I believe this is still the case: It is illegal to have a vehicle released for sale before the January of the year prior to it's official model year... <p>In other words... a release prior to January, 2006 means that a vehicle cannot be a 2007MY.<p>

Nick

07-19-2005, 10:40 PM

But it can start production before 2006 can it not?

FordRules

07-23-2005, 01:55 PM

mr impalas pics got stolen from AUTOLIES!<br><A HREF="http://www.autospies.com/article/index.asp?articleId=5039" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autospies.com/artic...=5039</A> They said autospies people took them! what a lie fom auto lies:<p>"Just in from one of our Spies (Jay Fonseca, from Staten Island NY), the fisrt real pictures of the next Escalade and Tahoe!<p>Thanks Jay!"<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 4:45 PM 7/25/2005</i>

CarMattZu777

07-24-2005, 08:53 PM

uh oh:<p><A HREF="http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0507/25/A01-258139.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.detnews.com/2005/au...9.htm</A><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Detroit Auto News</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Automakers fight to cap spy cameras<p>GM clamps down on stealth shutterbugs after photos of new SUV turn up on Web sites.<p>By Ed Garsten / The Detroit News<p>Related links<br>See a collection of Sneak Peeks from Autosinsider.com<p>Comment on this story<br>Send this story to a friend<br>Get Home Delivery<p>General Motors Corp. gumshoes are out to squash the shutterbug who secretly snapped photos of the automaker's upcoming line of large SUVs.<p>These aren't the garden-variety spy shots taken by professionals who make their living lurking behind trees and fences, hoping to snag a few frames of soon-to-be-released cars and trucks.<p>The three photos that started popping up on the Internet last week show the new Chevrolet Tahoe and Cadillac Escalade in what appears to be a photo studio or warehouse, giving GM the suspicion this caper was an inside job by someone hoping to make a quick buck.<p>"We're still trying to understand the who, what, when, where or how," GM spokesman Jeffrey Kuhlman said. "In this case it was a private photo session, and the potential exists the person was involved in the setup or organization of this event."<p>The practice of capturing images of new models automakers aren't ready to show publicly has long been a cottage industry. Myriad auto enthusiast magazines, Internet sites and newspapers, including The Detroit News, pay to publish spy photos.<p>But GM is fighting back in cases involving some of its most important and profitable models.<p>In November 2003, a photographer captured an uncamouflaged shot of the much-anticipated 2005 Chevrolet Corvette. The new 'Vette soon surfaced on the Internet, crimping GM's plans to reveal it to the world at the Detroit auto show the following January.<p>Then last year, a GM photograph of the high-performance Corvette Z06 showed up online after it was distributed to journalists who agreed not to publish until a later date.<p>This time, GM hired security experts to track down the source of the leak and warned several Web site operators against publishing the photo.<p>But the Corvette Z06 had already digitally raced around the world, taking some of the buzz away from the car's premiere at this year's Detroit auto show.<p>The shots of GM's new SUVs now circulating on the Web are especially troubling to the company. The highly profitable vehicles mean so much to its financial turnaround the automaker killed a rear-wheel drive vehicle program to devote money and people to bring the new Tahoe, GMC Yukon and others to market six months sooner than originally planned.<p>"We don't want the competition to have any insight into the products," Kuhlman said.<p>In addition, GM is waiting to show the new models publicly to maintain consumer interest and sales of the current Tahoe and other large SUVs.<p>But in the age of the Internet and blast e-mails, a giant automaker's efforts to keep a hot model under wraps can go astray.<p>Automakers typically give photographs to journalists early under the agreement they won't be published until an agreed-upon date. The practice raises the risk that the photographs can leak onto the Internet, which triggers other news organizations to publish in an effort to remain competitive.<p>And these days, it seems, more photographers are willing to break the rules to bag their quarry.<p>Spy photographer Jim Dunne of Popular Mechanics magazine says he lives by a code of ethics when skulking around for his money shot, often hiding behind the fences at GM's proving grounds in Milford.<p>"You have to be careful not to go on private property," said Dunne, who once rented a helicopter to get a shot of a Corvette prototype.<p>Dunne sells his photos to other publications after Popular Mechanics gets first crack at them, but he won't sell to Web sites. "They tend to give away the secrets," he said.<p>Brenda Priddy, another oft-published spy photographer, says she'll sell legally obtained spy photos to Web sites.<p>Priddy said she received a call from a man who said he had taken the photos of the new GM SUVs and was looking to make a deal. She declined to handle the photos because she was concerned they may have been taken on GM property.<p>"I don't touch anything that was taken inside," Priddy said. "It's not worth my reputation with the car companies."<p>Priddy says the person, whose name she doesn't remember, told her he was invited by an employee into the building where the photo shoot was taking place, so he didn't feel he was trespassing. But she warned him not to distribute the pictures, apparently taken by a camera phone.<p>"I told him, 'I can't touch them and you shouldn't post them,' said Priddy. "You're going to have somebody knocking on your door.'"<p>Nevertheless, the photos soon showed up on several Web sites.<p>Robert Lane, publisher of the popular Web site Blueovalnews.com, said he decided to place a link on his site to another site that published the photos. The reason is simple: "Our photo galleries draw the most traffic by far," Lane said. "It's absolutely good for revenue."<p>The episode shows that anyone with the opportunity and a camera phone can expose a company's secrets.<p>Automakers are taking a harder line as technology threatens to turn their employees and visitors into potential spy photographers.<p>At DaimlerChrysler AG's Chrysler Group, imaging devices are strictly forbidden on company property without authorization, spokesman David Elshoff said.<p>"That includes, but is not limited to film, digital cameras, video cameras, PDAs, handheld computers, cell phones and/or watches with image capturing," Elshoff said.<p>GM enforces a strict ban on camera phones in product development and design areas.<p>Even spy photographers are now concerned about having their work ripped off, especially when they sell it to a Web site, Priddy said.<p>"I do worry a little bit because things get out of hand, especially in Korea and the countries around Russia because the photos get taken (without payment)," Priddy said.<p>You can reach Ed Garsten at (313) 223-3217 or egarsten@detnews.com.<p><br></TD></TR></TABLE>

Santeno

07-25-2005, 01:47 PM

Guys please keep the discusion focused on the topic at hand and not MrImpala please. Thanks.

sgfootball2006

08-02-2005, 08:10 AM

Does anybody know if the 2007 silverado is supposed to have the same front end as the new tahoe?

FordRules

08-02-2005, 09:57 AM

the silverado will look a little bit different

FordRules

08-02-2005, 08:51 PM

some new pics:<br><A HREF="http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2598/picture377jg.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img206.imageshack.us/im...g.jpg</A>

these trucks had better be good, because GM took money out of the Zeta program to develope them, i'd rather they spend more money on Zeta though.....

Luwalira

08-03-2005, 03:24 PM

I bet that many rappers are all ready signed up to get the Escalade.

sc43018

08-03-2005, 07:05 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Luwalira</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I bet that many rappers are all ready signed up to get the Escalade. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>wasnt there an article about that? GM held a special preview event that included a lot of rappers including Xzibit, the rapper/host of PIMP MY RIDE.<br>this could go either way for GM, it may attract some customers while sending away the older white male who wont drive a car that is automatically thought of with 22s

Santeno

08-03-2005, 07:09 PM

yeah it's on this thread.

Luwalira

08-04-2005, 04:48 AM

I'm pretty sure GM are going to pay certain rappers to use the new Escalade in their music videos. I won't exactly be jumping out of my chair when I see the new Escalade in a music video the next 3 months.

Nick

08-07-2005, 12:43 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Luwalira</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm pretty sure GM are going to pay certain rappers to use the new Escalade in their music videos. I won't exactly be jumping out of my chair when I see the new Escalade in a music video the next 3 months.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>actually, in that one meeting they had a while back with a select group of people revealing the GMT-900's there were a few very prominent rappers present who were blown away by the 'slade...

Ascariss

08-08-2005, 12:43 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ford_rules</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">mr impalas pics got stolen from AUTOLIES!<br><A HREF="http://www.autospies.com/article/index.asp?articleId=5039" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autospies.com/artic...=5039</A> They said autospies people took them! what a lie fom auto lies:<p>"Just in from one of our Spies (Jay Fonseca, from Staten Island NY), the fisrt real pictures of the next Escalade and Tahoe!<p>Thanks Jay!"<p><br><i>Modified by Santeno at 4:45 PM 7/25/2005</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>were you expecting different?

FordRules

08-08-2005, 01:21 PM

Since the State Fair of Texas is the first major auto show of the auto show season we have not received all the information on what the manufacturers are planning to bring. However, we do have advance knowledge of some of the GM products. <p>?<p>2007 Chevy Tahoe will be the big story. It looks like they will bring the 2006 Suburban LTZ, 2006 HHR, Silverado Crew Cab, 2006 Trailblazer SS. ?I also think the 2006 Corvette convertible will be here.<p>?<p>Saturn will bring the new Vue V-6 AWD.<p>?<p>Buick will have? the Lucerne.<p>?<p>Check back for updates on Big Tex.com<p>State Fair of Texas<p>214-421-8728<p>?<p>September 30-October 23, 2005<p>This is the response from the Texas State Fair I recieved When I Contacted Them.

against the wall

08-08-2005, 01:33 PM

is the trailblazer ss out yet? my mom parked next to one yesterday at the supermarket and it had the the front bumper with the silver square things on it and all the sport tuned stuff and all the ss badges exterior and interior. if it was aftermarket someone went way over their heads.

FordRules

08-08-2005, 05:55 PM

ive seen 1 like that before too, i think it was aftermarket

against the wall

08-08-2005, 06:16 PM

this was definetly not aftermarket.

FordRules

08-08-2005, 06:29 PM

mabye you saw the 2006 trailblazer,it has been realeased

FordRules

08-08-2005, 06:30 PM

because i saw a trailblazer ss before although it looked like it was a l.owered t-blazer with "ss"

against the wall

08-08-2005, 06:42 PM

no this was definetly a trailblazer ss. it was lowered, dual tailpipes with the square tips, the bumper with the gray square things in them, the air cooler thing in the bar across the grille and headlights, ss badges on the side and trunk, and ss badges on the sport seats and the sportier dash. dont think this was an aftermarket job.

piokor

08-08-2005, 06:48 PM

I just got the September issue of Automobile magazine, and it says that the Trailblazer SS should be on sale now...

FordRules

08-08-2005, 10:12 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bonzos montreaux</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no this was definetly a trailblazer ss. it was lowered, dual tailpipes with the square tips, the bumper with the gray square things in them, the air cooler thing in the bar across the grille and headlights, ss badges on the side and trunk, and ss badges on the sport seats and the sportier dash. dont think this was an aftermarket job.</TD></TR></TABLE>Yes I know Bonzo, You can Pre-Order TrailBlazerSS's Right Now.I saw a Trailblazer 2wd Which was Lowered and someone had put SS badges on it.Im not saying you saw what I saw.You could have very Well seen a 2006 SS

Nick

08-09-2005, 10:17 AM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bonzos montreaux</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no this was definetly a trailblazer ss. it was lowered, dual tailpipes with the square tips, the bumper with the gray square things in them, the air cooler thing in the bar across the grille and headlights, ss badges on the side and trunk, and ss badges on the sport seats and the sportier dash. dont think this was an aftermarket job.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>The TBSS only has a single exit exhaust pipe...

against the wall

08-09-2005, 11:08 AM

not on the chevy website it doesnt.

against the wall

08-09-2005, 11:13 AM

i think this one did but there are no rear pics online.

FordRules

08-10-2005, 10:36 AM

heres a rear pic:<br><A HREF="http://www.tuningnews.net/news/050328/chevrolet-trailblazer-ss-05.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.tuningnews.net/news...5.jpg</A> It has single exhaust.<br>

Nick

08-10-2005, 08:07 PM

you can get aftermarket bumpers and roll pans which have the square inlets like on the silverado SS....

FordRules

08-10-2005, 08:20 PM

ok this isnt the trailblazer ss discussion,lets talk about the GMT 900's

Charger

08-22-2005, 11:51 AM

<A HREF="http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/PMX0805newcars011_large.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://media.popularmechanics....e.jpg</A><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's not exactly smaller, but at least it's smoother.<p>DETROIT SPY TEXT AND PHOTOGRAPHY BY JIM DUNNE<p>Public Escapades<br>Despite its full covering, we know from the familiar grille and headlights that this is the 2006 Cadillac Escalade (above). Changes include larger fender flares, new wheels and new mirrors. The hood is narrower and does not flow over the fenders. On the flanks, the surfaces are smoother with no major creases, while at the rear the license plate frame is now up on the hatch, not bracketed in the bumper. GM has garnered heavy criticism for its lineup of gas-hungry, oversize SUVs, and when this latest Escalade arrives, it won't do much to ease the negative buzz.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>source: PM

FordRules

08-22-2005, 12:38 PM

Good find.I see that the escalade will look like a cadillac.Also looks likes its in rap stars minds already.LoL

AXIS

08-22-2005, 01:04 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>FordRules Design Co.</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Good find.I see that the escalade will look like a cadillac.Also looks likes its in rap stars minds already.LoL</TD></TR></TABLE><p>uhm ford I'm not trying to flame you or anything, but your post makes absolutely no sense. The Escalade is a Cadillac so of course its going to have some interpretation of the Cadillac design language and LOOK LIKE A CADILLAC where you expecting it to look like a Chevy?

FordRules

08-22-2005, 01:11 PM

dunno, like a cadillac catera didnt look like a cadillac.Yah my post was kinda stupid.

knihc2008

08-22-2005, 02:13 PM

the original escalade looked like a gmc yukon.

Nick

08-22-2005, 04:32 PM

actually the yukon denali and escalade were both exactly the same...

Cozz

08-22-2005, 06:22 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nick</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually the yukon denali and escalade were both exactly the same...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>You mean chassis? They were different in body stipping, moldings and the rear barn doors option.

piokor

08-22-2005, 09:09 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Cozz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>You mean chassis? They were different in body stipping, moldings and the rear barn doors option.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think he is referring to the original Escalade.<p> <IMG SRC="http://i.timeinc.net/mtnpub/content/images/old/standard/00/06/SKsd1199b.jpg" BORDER="0">

FordRules

08-22-2005, 11:38 PM

the origanal escalade was ugly.the new one is nice and the gmt900 one looks not too bsd either

anyone has a photo of the 2007 Escalade??? if so, please post it!<p>thank you

knicks125

08-25-2005, 11:09 AM

Flip back a few pages <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Santeno

08-25-2005, 11:27 AM

see page 6

Escalade

08-25-2005, 12:29 PM

tnx a lot. i didn't have enough time to look over all of them, so thanks for that shortcut.<p>i just hope that the new model keeps being so cool. i really like that robustness it has. it's a pity i haven't had the opportunity to test its off-road abilities, but hope there are superb. <p>anyone knows?

Chris_Doane

08-25-2005, 12:44 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Escalade</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">tnx a lot. i didn't have enough time to look over all of them, so thanks for that shortcut.<p>i just hope that the new model keeps being so cool. i really like that robustness it has. it's a pity i haven't had the opportunity to test its off-road abilities, but hope there are superb. <p>anyone knows?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Heh....you dont mean the Esclade's offroad abilities do you?

Nick

08-25-2005, 01:11 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Escalade</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">tnx a lot. i didn't have enough time to look over all of them, so thanks for that shortcut.<p>i just hope that the new model keeps being so cool. i really like that robustness it has. it's a pity i haven't had the opportunity to test its off-road abilities, but hope there are superb. <p>anyone knows?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>or lack there of perhaps...<p>Actually, the Tahoe did pretty well offroad when the mags tested it (if I remember correctly)...Now, I'm not talking about rock climbing or anything like that, but it faired pretty well in the rough stuff, so I would imagine the escalade would follow suit...It's no H1 or Jeep or G-Class or Range Rover, but I am sure it still does fairly well...

Santeno

08-25-2005, 01:12 PM

well, judging from the capabilities of the H2, and of military versions of trucks (mainly pick-ups) based on the platform, yes it can handle it's own in moderate to decent off-road situations. however, when kitted out in mega-SUV form, I would imagine the off-road prowess would be reduced somewhat since these vehicles are heavier and are outfitted mainly for on-road use. Go ahead and drive one on a snowy or muddy road or an open field, but I wouldn't do much more than that.

JagZ

08-26-2005, 10:25 PM

Escalade can go on dirt roads and thats about it. I don't think it has a low range does it? It only comes with a good AWD system.<p>

Nodnarb

08-26-2005, 10:46 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JagZ</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Escalade can go on dirt roads and thats about it. I don't think it has a low range does it? It only comes with a good AWD system.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>You are correct. Back when Motor Trend was still doing their annual trips to Death Valley, they brought an Escalade along. It held its own on the dunes out in the desert, but when it came time to do the trails, they parked it, and most others besides the Frontier and Liberty. So I expect the new will be much the same.

Escalade

08-28-2005, 05:34 AM

thnx a lot.<p>it has deceived me. i thought it would be better than those like mitsu outback or even Merck ML, which surely are not valid to go out of the trails.<p>anyway, i still like it. it's a ghetto car!

StevenZoz

09-02-2005, 05:49 PM

i was looking over those pics that we had earlier of the tahoe with no camo at all.. cuz i printed them out.. and i think i like the current tahoe design better.

FordRules

09-02-2005, 05:52 PM

CarDomain Has The best Tahoe pics.Theres are full size but dont say MrImpala on them. I have them on my computer and my website if anyone wants to see them. Belive it or not the tahoe loks a little diffrent now that you can see the side profile.

against the wall

09-02-2005, 06:04 PM

can you send the links?

FordRules

09-02-2005, 08:07 PM

Are we allowed to post them?

Andre

09-02-2005, 08:10 PM

Linking will not hurt, no embedding.

FordRules

09-02-2005, 08:11 PM

<A HREF="http://s13.invisionfree.com/Suv_And_Truck_Fans/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=236742" TARGET="_blank">http://s13.invisionfree.com/Su...36742</A><p><A HREF="http://s13.invisionfree.com/Suv_And_Truck_Fans/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=236777" TARGET="_blank">http://s13.invisionfree.com/Su...36777</A><p>Ok here you go. <p>---------------------------------------------------<p><br>Edit: Same pics as before but with impala's tags removed by Cardomain.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 10:59 AM 9/3/2005</i>

knicks125

09-02-2005, 09:15 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>FordRules</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">CarDomain Has The best Tahoe pics.Theres are full size but dont say MrImpala on them. I have them on my computer and my website if anyone wants to see them. Belive it or not the tahoe loks a little diffrent now that you can see the side profile.</TD></TR></TABLE><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>FordRules</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://s13.invisionfree.com/Suv_And_Truck_Fans/index.php?showtopic=2" TARGET="_blank">http://s13.invisionfree.com/Su...pic=2</A><p>Ok here you go. Theres also some info too.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>CarDomain is not the same as your own website. Please do not use this thread to advertise - it's already there in your sig.<p>EDIT: Thank you for fixing the link to your site <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> For future reference, it would be a lot easier to just post a link to the pic (such as the original cardomain site where you got the picture, or an image hosting placeholder), instead of going back and forth here for almost a page.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 1:34 AM 9/3/2005</i>

FordRules

09-03-2005, 10:08 AM

Ok thanks.Its just i got the pics of off another forum and not CarDomain. So I didnt know the link to CarDomain. So thats why I posted this.And i hope I wont get sued my GM...<p>Ok Back to topic, On GMi theres an insider. And the 6th of each month he gets information of the GMT-900's.And its almost the 6th.(3-days) On the 6th He is supposed to get colors,Pricing and fuel economy info. Im excited to see this. And ill tell you guys W/e was said. Or you could just go there if you want.<br>Im excited to see fuel economy.Becuae if These Trucks can Have 400Hp but have better Fuel Economy....This will be a great truck!

Chris_Doane

09-03-2005, 11:51 AM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>FordRules</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok thanks.Its just i got the pics of off another forum and not CarDomain. So I didnt know the link to CarDomain. So thats why I posted this.And i hope I wont get sued my GM...<p>Ok Back to topic, On GMi theres an insider. And the 6th of each month he gets information of the GMT-900's.And its almost the 6th.(3-days) On the 6th He is supposed to get colors,Pricing and fuel economy info. Im excited to see this. And ill tell you guys W/e was said. Or you could just go there if you want.<br>Im excited to see fuel economy.Becuae if These Trucks can Have 400Hp but have better Fuel Economy....This will be a great truck!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>LOL the 6th of each month? Who is he? Deep throat?

FordRules

09-03-2005, 12:12 PM

AT Gmi he is 05silveradoss ask him.he gets some kinda info package each moth.

sgfootball2006

09-04-2005, 01:01 PM

He is a member of some organization that recieves info every month on upcoming vehicles. From what I understand it has to do with something through the dealership(If you are high up in the dealership i think) but normal people can also sign up for the information but it is really expensive every month

autodanse

09-14-2005, 06:45 AM

not sure if this has been posted:<p><A HREF="http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/6131/ecaladeext8ga.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img392.imageshack.us/im...a.jpg</A><p>great front shot of the escalade ext<p>source: cheersandgears.com

Banker

09-14-2005, 08:58 AM

This doesn't show all that much. <p>I can't wait to see the Tahoe in a couple of weeks when it is introduced at the Texas State Fair.

against the wall

09-14-2005, 12:16 PM

yea that shows a lot about the front. it shows the esca ext will get the same lights as the other caddy's, and it will have a bigger grille and more vertical. thats probably what the regualr escalade will look like.

LEXUS FAN!

09-14-2005, 04:25 PM

great picture...that is the EXT<p>you could very clearly see the shape of the light through the cover<p>the front light seems to be way too narrow...i don't think that would look good on such a bulky SUV<br>it is too long and thin

autodanse

09-14-2005, 06:45 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LEXUS FAN!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">great picture...that is the EXT<p>the front light seems to be way too narrow...i don't think that would look good on such a bulky SUV<br>it is too long and thin</TD></TR></TABLE><p>i was thinking the same thing. though part of the headlight may still be obscured. it seems REALLY thin. but the giant grille seems to be turning out quite nicely

LEXUS FAN!

09-14-2005, 10:50 PM

the grill is nice, but i don't know if it will be proportional to the lights

Nodnarb

09-17-2005, 08:49 AM

Well, the wait's almost over. According to <A HREF="http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2005-09-15-fuel-efficiency-cover_x.htm" TARGET="_blank">this</A> article, Tuesday is the day for the Tahoe. Hopefuly the rest will follow soon and the interiors aren't clones of each other.

Is this article reliable? I had heard and read that the Tahoe would debut on the 30th at the Texas State Fair?

Nodnarb

09-18-2005, 08:30 PM

It is shown to the public, in the flesh, at the fair, but the pics and info come on the 20th. It has been confirmed by AH-HA on Cheers and Gears, who is a very reliable insider for Detroit and the Big 2.5. He also said, "Ana wonder where they will show the Yukon." Which was quickly deciphered. So I'll leave that up to you.

FordRules

09-18-2005, 09:11 PM

FordRules on GMi has also confirmed it. So it MUST be true,LoL tomorrow at 12:00EST they will be unveiled. ON ABC i think too! In exactly 24 hours now.

zwei Biere bitte

09-18-2005, 10:16 PM

Will the Escalade still be called the Escalade, or will it go with Cadillac's new naming scheme? Like ETS?

Nodnarb

09-19-2005, 08:42 AM

If anything, it would become the ERX, since it is an SUV, but don't count on it. All indicators point to it staying Escalade.

Andre

09-19-2005, 12:25 PM

I think that if they were to drop the name "Escalade" it would be marketing suicide. The name has an asture about it that sells itself, "ETS" or "ERX" would just make it another full sized GM SUV clone, and it would lose a lot of its "Cool Factor"<p>We'll probably keep seeing "Escalade" for at least a few years more.

Mervz

09-19-2005, 02:00 PM

Hi guys, the offical info from GM is that it will be at 9am tomorrow morning. We'll see if anything leaks out before that, but i will have a full set of pictures and information at 9:15 on <A HREF="http://www.GM-Trucks.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.GM-Trucks.com</A><p>Zane

Nodnarb

09-19-2005, 02:59 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Andre</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think that if they were to drop the name "Escalade" it would be marketing suicide. The name has an asture about it that sells itself, "ETS" or "ERX" would just make it another full sized GM SUV clone, and it would lose a lot of its "Cool Factor"<p>We'll probably keep seeing "Escalade" for at least a few years more.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>And plus, (I forgot to mention this in my last post), ETS or ERX does not have that ring for hip-hop jamz. Saying "I roll up in the ERX" doesn't flow off the tounge like "I roll up in the Es-ca-lade. And that is half of the marketing of that vehicle, free plugs. And if I had to guess, I would say that C&G will have the stuff up at midnight. But it might be embargoed until 9:15, as strange as that would be. But I know their admin has the stuff and has had it for months, as well as a bunch of other future GM stuff.

FordRules

09-19-2005, 05:40 PM

Umm GMi is reporting it is 9:00Pm today Pacific time! Cheers and gears also is,Suv and Truck fans is. So i am beliving 9Pm. Oh and Mervs that is EST right. If it is i hav to wake up at 6 tomorow.damnit!

FordRules

09-19-2005, 05:42 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nodnarb</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>And plus, (I forgot to mention this in my last post), ETS or ERX does not have that ring for hip-hop jamz. Saying "I roll up in the ERX" doesn't flow off the tounge like "I roll up in the Es-ca-lade. And that is half of the marketing of that vehicle, free plugs. And if I had to guess, I would say that C&G will have the stuff up at midnight. But it might be embargoed until 9:15, as strange as that would be. But I know their admin has the stuff and has had it for months, as well as a bunch of other future GM stuff. </TD></TR></TABLE> Hey andre. I have confirmed the Name will be Escalade. The Long wheelbase version is ESV and the Avalanche type is EXT.<br>If you look at the Mrimpala spy shots youll see Esclade. But the EXT and ESV will probly just be called those.

See new Tahoe thread (Please post your Tahoe comments there): <p><A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=16832" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=16832</A><p>Suburban/Yukon/XL/Escalade to be unveiled later in the year. Many believed to be the Anaheim Auto Show.

Nodnarb

09-20-2005, 08:13 AM

The Yukon's been confirmed for Anaheim, but that's all that's been confirmed. The Escalade is likely for there, though, just not confirmed. So only a few more weeks on those. That show is Oct. 5-7. I'm really anxious for these since we haven't seen the front of those through leaked photos yet. And the interiors are allegedly very different between the three this time, and I am curious to see how different they are.