Re: Must See: Crude oil now covers much of giant sinkhole — Flowing into surrounding area (ENHANCED PHOTO)

It is pretty weird none of mainstream media is reporting much on this. Then again it is pretty spooky- no one has any answers on how to fix it.

Quoting: Watdhel

A Tactical Alert was issued by the LAPD in response to 400 Skateboarders, congregated on Hollyward Boulevard....the mainstream media swooped on that one helicopters and all......

Yep...Something smells funny for sure. ANd I'm not talking about the fumes...

I am betting the fact the area sparsely populated is a good reason why they are getting away with turning a blind eye...if oil was bubbling up in a street in downtown Hollywood it would be leading news around the world.

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Re: Must See: Crude oil now covers much of giant sinkhole — Flowing into surrounding area (ENHANCED PHOTO)

Time to call in the US Corps of Engineers and have the military handle whatever can be done. This mess will end up across state boundaries and is likely directly affected by the BP foul of the Gulf of Mexico.

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"Section 404 of the Clean Water Act established a regulatory program for the disposal of dredged or fill materials in the waters and wetlands of the United States. This section is regulated by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers with EPA oversight. Much debate and litigation has occurred over what constitutes "waters and wetlands of the United States". The following definition is used to administer the Section 404 permit program:

"...those areas that are inundated or saturated by surface or groundwater at a frequency and duration sufficient to support, and that under normal circumstances do support, a prevalence of vegetation typically adapted for life in saturated soil conditions. Wetlands generally include swamps, marshes, bogs, and similar areas."

Broad River Under Section 404, an exemption exists for silvicultural (i.e. timber management), farming or ranching activities. In order to meet the silvicultural exemption, the activity must be a normal, ongoing silvicultural activity that will not convert a wetlands to an upland site. The activity must also comply with best management practices guidelines for forested wetlands. A written management plan or evidence of historical use will help to demonstrate if it is an ongoing activity.

The EPA has a very narrow definition of normal silviculture. EPA and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers consider only timber management as silviculture. If the activity is for wildlife management, recreation, etc., it will not qualify under this exemption.

Landowners who wish to implement practices in jurisdictional wetlands that are not for timber management, need to contact the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to see if a permit may be required. Even if the practice is for timber management and it is going to impact a jurisdictional wetlands, it MUST be performed in compliance with best management practices to remain exempt.

Non-exempt activities may qualify under U.S. Army Corps of Engineers' nationwide permits. These permits have been established for a number of activities that have minimal impacts on wetlands. Nationwide permits were designed to regulate these activities with little, if any, delay or paperwork. If the activity does not qualify for authorization under a nationwide permit, it may still be authorized by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers by an individual or regional general permit."

Re: Must See: Crude oil now covers much of giant sinkhole — Flowing into surrounding area (ENHANCED PHOTO)

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Hey Barack -- thanks for the oil slick!

Clean Water Act - Section 311(A) If a discharge, or a substantial threat of a discharge, of oil or a hazardous substance from a vessel, offshore facility, or onshore facility is of such a size or character as to be a substantial threat to the public health or welfare of the United States (including but not limited to fish, shellfish, wildlife, other natural resources, and the public and private beaches and shorelines of the United States), the President shalldirect all Federal, State, and private actions to remove the discharge or to mitigate or prevent the threat of the discharge.

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Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23827498

He looks so stupid looking down at his little piece of paper never knowing what to say next.

Re: Must See: Crude oil now covers much of giant sinkhole — Flowing into surrounding area (ENHANCED PHOTO)

Time to call in the US Corps of Engineers and have the military handle whatever can be done. This mess will end up across state boundaries and is likely directly affected by the BP foul of the Gulf of Mexico.

* * * * *

"Section 404 of the Clean Water Act established a regulatory program for the disposal of dredged or fill materials in the waters and wetlands of the United States. This section is regulated by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers with EPA oversight. Much debate and litigation has occurred over what constitutes "waters and wetlands of the United States". The following definition is used to administer the Section 404 permit program:

"...those areas that are inundated or saturated by surface or groundwater at a frequency and duration sufficient to support, and that under normal circumstances do support, a prevalence of vegetation typically adapted for life in saturated soil conditions. Wetlands generally include swamps, marshes, bogs, and similar areas."

Broad River Under Section 404, an exemption exists for silvicultural (i.e. timber management), farming or ranching activities. In order to meet the silvicultural exemption, the activity must be a normal, ongoing silvicultural activity that will not convert a wetlands to an upland site. The activity must also comply with best management practices guidelines for forested wetlands. A written management plan or evidence of historical use will help to demonstrate if it is an ongoing activity.

The EPA has a very narrow definition of normal silviculture. EPA and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers consider only timber management as silviculture. If the activity is for wildlife management, recreation, etc., it will not qualify under this exemption.

Landowners who wish to implement practices in jurisdictional wetlands that are not for timber management, need to contact the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to see if a permit may be required. Even if the practice is for timber management and it is going to impact a jurisdictional wetlands, it MUST be performed in compliance with best management practices to remain exempt.

Non-exempt activities may qualify under U.S. Army Corps of Engineers' nationwide permits. These permits have been established for a number of activities that have minimal impacts on wetlands. Nationwide permits were designed to regulate these activities with little, if any, delay or paperwork. If the activity does not qualify for authorization under a nationwide permit, it may still be authorized by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers by an individual or regional general permit."

Re: Must See: Crude oil now covers much of giant sinkhole — Flowing into surrounding area (ENHANCED PHOTO)

Why are all you tards blaming BP ?, various reports all say its natural. If you lazy doom tards even bothered to do a search you would find how often this actualy happens. Pitch Lakes - La Brea in southwest Trinidad is the biggest, The La Brea Tar Pits (or Rancho La Brea Tar Pits) are a cluster of tar pits around which Hancock Park was formed, in urban Los Angeles.

Took me 5 mins just to find that, but hey I surppose its easier to be told what you should think it is by some other doom tard.

Re: Must See: Crude oil now covers much of giant sinkhole — Flowing into surrounding area (ENHANCED PHOTO)

Why are all you tards blaming BP ?, various reports all say its natural. If you lazy doom tards even bothered to do a search you would find how often this actualy happens. Pitch Lakes - La Brea in southwest Trinidad is the biggest, The La Brea Tar Pits (or Rancho La Brea Tar Pits) are a cluster of tar pits around which Hancock Park was formed, in urban Los Angeles.

Took me 5 mins just to find that, but hey I surppose its easier to be told what you should think it is by some other doom tard.

Re: Must See: Crude oil now covers much of giant sinkhole — Flowing into surrounding area (ENHANCED PHOTO)

Why are all you tards blaming BP ?, various reports all say its natural. If you lazy doom tards even bothered to do a search you would find how often this actualy happens. Pitch Lakes - La Brea in southwest Trinidad is the biggest, The La Brea Tar Pits (or Rancho La Brea Tar Pits) are a cluster of tar pits around which Hancock Park was formed, in urban Los Angeles.

Took me 5 mins just to find that, but hey I surppose its easier to be told what you should think it is by some other doom tard.

Re: Must See: Crude oil now covers much of giant sinkhole — Flowing into surrounding area (ENHANCED PHOTO)

Why are all you tards blaming BP ?, various reports all say its natural. If you lazy doom tards even bothered to do a search you would find how often this actualy happens. Pitch Lakes - La Brea in southwest Trinidad is the biggest, The La Brea Tar Pits (or Rancho La Brea Tar Pits) are a cluster of tar pits around which Hancock Park was formed, in urban Los Angeles.

Took me 5 mins just to find that, but hey I surppose its easier to be told what you should think it is by some other doom tard.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25232356

Ok, whatever. Sure, let's assume it's just natural. You are right, it does happen. So, it can be natural or it could be man made.

Doesn't matter either way, does it?

Still the same potential outcome damage-wise based on location and population and 15 nuclear power plants waiting to go down like dominoes should that thing somehow "blow" as well as many other factors that just were not in play when the la brea tar pits were formed (early 1900s in case you're wondering).

Really, the cause is not the pressing issue here, sorry. I guess you should have spent at least six minutes on your research. Heh.

Re: Must See: Crude oil now covers much of giant sinkhole — Flowing into surrounding area (ENHANCED PHOTO)

Here's a question. I know they are flaring, what is the chance of those flares igniting the gas pocket?

Quoting: d1k

"...it has Assumption Parish sheriff and local residents ordered to evacuate worried about a catastrophic explosion, one according to scientists in an Examiner investigation, would be in the range of one and a half B83 thermonuclear (hydrogen) bombs." [link to www.examiner.com]

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24945571

Ya I've read what they think the explosion would be like but my question is what are the chances of that flaring going on (more than one site) igniting the whole damn thing? What kind of safety precautions do these flaring sites have, if any? Anyone ever do this type of work and can tell us?

Quoting: d1k

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23688464

The flares are up high, I think the science is that the gas stays down low and hugs the ground, and the flaring is done high to prevent such explosions. On erigs they are normally put in a spot where the prevailing wind takes gas away from the flare, but I suppose that part doesn't matter here.

Re: Must See: Crude oil now covers much of giant sinkhole — Flowing into surrounding area (ENHANCED PHOTO)

Now someone needs to check it's FINGERPRINT and see if there is a match with the unweathered crude coming out of the MACONDO WELL!

Quoting: Childoflight 11707592

that was my next question is it from BP oil spill Macondo?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25481352

BP nuked a fault line . . . the repercussions are playing out.

A retired engineer discovered a techtonic plate under the Louisiana Bayou and that a previously believed dorman pocket of gas under the GOM is actually active . . . all that is the link up to New Madrid Seismic Zone which is literally covered with a maze of natural gas pipelines and nuclear plants nearby.

BP runs the Energy Department of U.S.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25510440

another reason to sweep and clear the top.005% of wealth and improve the quality of life for the rest of us. fuck 'em, let turn the NWO into a maoist communist movement.