He is set to start the friendly against Ecuador in Miami - Lambert's first start for his country since last October.

Lambert didn't play at all in last Friday's 3-0 Wembley win against Peru, while ex-Saints colleague Luke Shaw was absent with a cold.

Shaw, though, is also set to start tonight in place of the rested Leighton Baines.

It will be the 18-year-old's second senior cap and his first start, having made his debut as a sub against Denmark at Wembley in March.

Lambert is expected to play as the lone striker with Wayne Rooney operating on the left wing.

Having missed the last three matches of the Premier League season through injury, Rooney's determination to get into top shape was highlighted by the fact he took two fitness coaches on a pre-tournament holiday to Portugal.

Rooney's dedication earned praise from the England manager but was seemingly not enough to get him match-fit for Friday's farewell friendly against Peru, where he was little more than a peripheral figure in a comfortable win.

Hodgson insisted he was pleased with the Manchester United striker's performance at Wembley but will give him another chance to blow away the cobwebs tonight, when 20,000 spectators are expected at the Sun Life Stadium to see England take on Ecuador.

"Wayne Rooney will start the game," Hodgson said. "I haven't spoken to him yet, but he will start the game."

Rooney could potentially be the only player to start both the Peru and Ecuador matches, with Hodgson planning to name a much-changed line-up in Florida.

The England boss has confirmed the inclusion of Phil Jones and ex-Saint Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain as they step-up their return from injuries.

James Milner and Ben Foster are also in-line to start after doing the press activity for a match which will see Frank Lampard captain the national team just days after announcing he will leave Chelsea.

Saints star Adam Lallana, who started against Peru, is unlikely to start tonight.

"We're trying to focus hard on what it is possible for us to do, what we can do well and not get too hung up on the outcome," Hodgson said.

"We are taking a simple approach. If we play well then we think our players, if they play to the best of their abilities, and we get some luck, which everyone needs, then we can have a very good World Cup.

"We will focus on the things we can control. Who knows if we will have a good World Cup or bad one?

"But we will make sure we take every measure possible to help us have a good World Cup."

After Ecuador comes another friendly at the Sun Life Stadium on Saturday, with Honduras the final opponents before England jet off to Brazil.

The matches punctuate a week designed to help the players acclimatise to the hot and humid conditions they are set to face over the coming weeks, especially in their Group D opener against Italy on June 14 in Manaus.

"It was good to see the sun," Hodgson said, having seen his side forced inside by heavy storms in their first session on Monday.

"It was warm out there and the conditions are similar I think to what we'll encounter in Brazil.

"So it was absolutely perfect today and it is nice to get back to some degree of normality."

England's 23-man World Cup squad all trained on the eve of the game at the 75,540-seater stadium, as did standby players Jon Flanagan and John Stones.

Hodgson confirmed the defensive duo will leave the Three Lions camp at the end of the week, having on Monday submitted his World Cup squad to FIFA on Monday.

"We're happy obviously at this stage after having two-and-a-half weeks of training," he said after finalising his squad.

"We've not had any injuries and we've still got two further preparation matches, which we are hoping to come through as well.

"It would be marvellous to be on the plane to Brazil with all 23 because after this Miami part of our preparations the two young lads, Jon Flanagan and John Stones, will actually leave when we leave for Brazil."

Sounds weird don't it retire the number 7 in tribute don't think we will find a 3rd legend for the shirt as good as tiss or lambert

[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote:
"Former" Saints striker......just doesn't sound right does it??[/p][/quote]Sounds weird don't it retire the number 7 in tribute don't think we will find a 3rd legend for the shirt as good as tiss or lambertManicsaintbloke

JohnItaly wrote:
I know a little hard-hearted but only interested in Saints' players playing for England. My interest in the WC might be short lived!!

Rickie is A saint for life regardless who he plays for

[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote:
I know a little hard-hearted but only interested in Saints' players playing for England. My interest in the WC might be short lived!![/p][/quote]Rickie is A saint for life regardless who he plays forManicsaintbloke

JohnItaly wrote:
I know a little hard-hearted but only interested in Saints' players playing for England. My interest in the WC might be short lived!!

Rickie is a saint for life regardless who he plays for

[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote:
I know a little hard-hearted but only interested in Saints' players playing for England. My interest in the WC might be short lived!![/p][/quote]Rickie is a saint for life regardless who he plays forManicsaintbloke

JohnItaly wrote:
I know a little hard-hearted but only interested in Saints' players playing for England. My interest in the WC might be short lived!!

I think that everyone has said what needs to be said regarding Rickie and I wish him all the best along with all the other England players in the World Cup.

Also hope all our other players on international duty come back to us in one piece.

[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote:
I know a little hard-hearted but only interested in Saints' players playing for England. My interest in the WC might be short lived!![/p][/quote]I think that everyone has said what needs to be said regarding Rickie and I wish him all the best along with all the other England players in the World Cup.
Also hope all our other players on international duty come back to us in one piece.SodburySaint93

Sounds weird don't it retire the number 7 in tribute don't think we will find a 3rd legend for the shirt as good as tiss or lambert

Terry Paine?

[quote][p][bold]Manicsaintbloke[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote:
"Former" Saints striker......just doesn't sound right does it??[/p][/quote]Sounds weird don't it retire the number 7 in tribute don't think we will find a 3rd legend for the shirt as good as tiss or lambert[/p][/quote]Terry Paine?Tetty

saints are a victim of their own sucsess with getting and training youth players to a standard good enough to be in the england team, glad to see them there but sad to see what is happening to our team(saints fc). not quite so keen on watching england play as a result. Never thought I would be saying this

saints are a victim of their own sucsess with getting and training youth players to a standard good enough to be in the england team, glad to see them there but sad to see what is happening to our team(saints fc). not quite so keen on watching england play as a result. Never thought I would be saying thisandy newbury

JohnItaly wrote:
I know a little hard-hearted but only interested in Saints' players playing for England. My interest in the WC might be short lived!!

Rickie is A saint for life regardless who he plays for

Nope, not really - Matt is a Saint for life.

[quote][p][bold]Manicsaintbloke[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote:
I know a little hard-hearted but only interested in Saints' players playing for England. My interest in the WC might be short lived!![/p][/quote]Rickie is A saint for life regardless who he plays for[/p][/quote]Nope, not really - Matt is a Saint for life.Saint Jinx

andy newbury wrote:
saints are a victim of their own sucsess with getting and training youth players to a standard good enough to be in the england team, glad to see them there but sad to see what is happening to our team(saints fc). not quite so keen on watching england play as a result. Never thought I would be saying this

That's exactly the way I feel. It has taken the gloss off it - I feel we Saints are being ridiculed in some quarters.

[quote][p][bold]andy newbury[/bold] wrote:
saints are a victim of their own sucsess with getting and training youth players to a standard good enough to be in the england team, glad to see them there but sad to see what is happening to our team(saints fc). not quite so keen on watching england play as a result. Never thought I would be saying this[/p][/quote]That's exactly the way I feel. It has taken the gloss off it - I feel we Saints are being ridiculed in some quarters.Saint Jinx

I haven't enjoyed an England match for years, so I'm not really bothered. Have no expectations around England in the WC, more interested in it as a football spectacle and would rather concentrate on better news closer to home!

I haven't enjoyed an England match for years, so I'm not really bothered. Have no expectations around England in the WC, more interested in it as a football spectacle and would rather concentrate on better news closer to home!St.Winch70

andy newbury wrote:
saints are a victim of their own sucsess with getting and training youth players to a standard good enough to be in the england team, glad to see them there but sad to see what is happening to our team(saints fc). not quite so keen on watching england play as a result. Never thought I would be saying this

That's exactly the way I feel. It has taken the gloss off it - I feel we Saints are being ridiculed in some quarters.

Are we just going to accept this alleged ridicule? Isn't it time we started to dish it out at these denigrators? Any ideas how we can do this?

[quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]andy newbury[/bold] wrote:
saints are a victim of their own sucsess with getting and training youth players to a standard good enough to be in the england team, glad to see them there but sad to see what is happening to our team(saints fc). not quite so keen on watching england play as a result. Never thought I would be saying this[/p][/quote]That's exactly the way I feel. It has taken the gloss off it - I feel we Saints are being ridiculed in some quarters.[/p][/quote]Are we just going to accept this alleged ridicule? Isn't it time we started to dish it out at these denigrators? Any ideas how we can do this?OSPREYSAINT

The Daily Echo are apparently telling us twice in one sentence that on Monday, Roy Hodgson submitted his World Cup squad to FIFA (on Monday). The Daily Echo often repeats their whole articles from the previous day, a fine example today being on the subject of the opinion of Steven Davis. Now the Daily Echo has managed to surpass even their repeated articles with a very strong element of déjà vu in one sentence, an amazing feat of journalism! Ah well, at least Mondays do always happen on Mondays! Echo, echo, read all about it!!!

The Daily Echo are apparently telling us twice in one sentence that on Monday, Roy Hodgson submitted his World Cup squad to FIFA (on Monday). The Daily Echo often repeats their whole articles from the previous day, a fine example today being on the subject of the opinion of Steven Davis. Now the Daily Echo has managed to surpass even their repeated articles with a very strong element of déjà vu in one sentence, an amazing feat of journalism! Ah well, at least Mondays do always happen on Mondays! Echo, echo, read all about it!!!justaSaintsfan

I was going to say the same, but you know, it sounds a lot better than "Liverpool striker Rickie Lambert …" which is what every other paper will write. At least here at the DE the team that got him to the World Cup is rightly remembered,

[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote:
"Former" Saints striker......just doesn't sound right does it??[/p][/quote]I was going to say the same, but you know, it sounds a lot better than "Liverpool striker Rickie Lambert …" which is what every other paper will write. At least here at the DE the team that got him to the World Cup is rightly remembered,andoru

andy newbury wrote:
saints are a victim of their own sucsess with getting and training youth players to a standard good enough to be in the england team, glad to see them there but sad to see what is happening to our team(saints fc). not quite so keen on watching england play as a result. Never thought I would be saying this

That's exactly the way I feel. It has taken the gloss off it - I feel we Saints are being ridiculed in some quarters.

Are we just going to accept this alleged ridicule? Isn't it time we started to dish it out at these denigrators? Any ideas how we can do this?

Probably best to ignore it, but if we can't ignore it, we must better it - and if we can't better it then we should just laugh at it. If we can't even laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]andy newbury[/bold] wrote:
saints are a victim of their own sucsess with getting and training youth players to a standard good enough to be in the england team, glad to see them there but sad to see what is happening to our team(saints fc). not quite so keen on watching england play as a result. Never thought I would be saying this[/p][/quote]That's exactly the way I feel. It has taken the gloss off it - I feel we Saints are being ridiculed in some quarters.[/p][/quote]Are we just going to accept this alleged ridicule? Isn't it time we started to dish it out at these denigrators? Any ideas how we can do this?[/p][/quote]Probably best to ignore it, but if we can't ignore it, we must better it - and if we can't better it then we should just laugh at it. If we can't even laugh at it, it's probably deserved.Confucious

Rickie will still come up as Southampton and England on the world cup graphics (unless altered by BBC and ITV) as the company doing match graphics recieved all players info way before he left for diverpool!!!!! just like the panini albums etc.....not expecting much at the WC hopeful as ever tbh

Rickie will still come up as Southampton and England on the world cup graphics (unless altered by BBC and ITV) as the company doing match graphics recieved all players info way before he left for diverpool!!!!! just like the panini albums etc.....not expecting much at the WC hopeful as ever tbhadams74

I don't care if Rickie is now a diverpool player he didn't get to the world cup for what he`s done for diverpool, he got there for playing for saints. until he plays for diverpool all his achievements with England will be because of our club. he therefore represents our club on the biggest stage in world football, along with Luke and Lalla (who I still don't believe has asked to leave, one source and we all know where his allegiances lie).
for me it is a proud moment to have those players, and every other player who has been selected, representing our clubs fantastic season. luke and lalla aren't just representing our club, they are representing our academy as well.
when you look at how many players we have had called up this year, and it could have been more if j-rod wasn't injured, and then compare that to the last world cup.
I will be supporting every one of our players and hope they all have great tournaments, and yes that includes SRL. lets not forget that the ox is there representing our academy as well!

I don't care if Rickie is now a diverpool player he didn't get to the world cup for what he`s done for diverpool, he got there for playing for saints. until he plays for diverpool all his achievements with England will be because of our club. he therefore represents our club on the biggest stage in world football, along with Luke and Lalla (who I still don't believe has asked to leave, one source and we all know where his allegiances lie).
for me it is a proud moment to have those players, and every other player who has been selected, representing our clubs fantastic season. luke and lalla aren't just representing our club, they are representing our academy as well.
when you look at how many players we have had called up this year, and it could have been more if j-rod wasn't injured, and then compare that to the last world cup.
I will be supporting every one of our players and hope they all have great tournaments, and yes that includes SRL. lets not forget that the ox is there representing our academy as well!el caballo santos101

I was wondering, if the Transfer Window doesn't "officially" open until 1st July, does that mean SRL will still be registered as a Saints player for the World Cup? The reason I ask is, when the England matches are beamed all around the world, I believe for our branding it will be important if there are 3 Southampton players listed in the England team, even though in all likelihood all 3 will be elsewhere in August.

That is still some achievement and something we should be proud of.

It could also enhance the foreign market?

I was wondering, if the Transfer Window doesn't "officially" open until 1st July, does that mean SRL will still be registered as a Saints player for the World Cup? The reason I ask is, when the England matches are beamed all around the world, I believe for our branding it will be important if there are 3 Southampton players listed in the England team, even though in all likelihood all 3 will be elsewhere in August.
That is still some achievement and something we should be proud of.
It could also enhance the foreign market?Chief Anderson

andy newbury wrote:
saints are a victim of their own sucsess with getting and training youth players to a standard good enough to be in the england team, glad to see them there but sad to see what is happening to our team(saints fc). not quite so keen on watching england play as a result. Never thought I would be saying this

That's exactly the way I feel. It has taken the gloss off it - I feel we Saints are being ridiculed in some quarters.

Are we just going to accept this alleged ridicule? Isn't it time we started to dish it out at these denigrators? Any ideas how we can do this?

We could organise demonstrations in Europe's major cities - bringing traffic to a complete standstill across the continent . We could even hire a satellite and put our message across!!

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]andy newbury[/bold] wrote:
saints are a victim of their own sucsess with getting and training youth players to a standard good enough to be in the england team, glad to see them there but sad to see what is happening to our team(saints fc). not quite so keen on watching england play as a result. Never thought I would be saying this[/p][/quote]That's exactly the way I feel. It has taken the gloss off it - I feel we Saints are being ridiculed in some quarters.[/p][/quote]Are we just going to accept this alleged ridicule? Isn't it time we started to dish it out at these denigrators? Any ideas how we can do this?[/p][/quote]We could organise demonstrations in Europe's major cities - bringing traffic to a complete standstill across the continent . We could even hire a satellite and put our message across!!Saint Jinx

andy newbury wrote:
saints are a victim of their own sucsess with getting and training youth players to a standard good enough to be in the england team, glad to see them there but sad to see what is happening to our team(saints fc). not quite so keen on watching england play as a result. Never thought I would be saying this

That's exactly the way I feel. It has taken the gloss off it - I feel we Saints are being ridiculed in some quarters.

Are we just going to accept this alleged ridicule? Isn't it time we started to dish it out at these denigrators? Any ideas how we can do this?

We could organise demonstrations in Europe's major cities - bringing traffic to a complete standstill across the continent . We could even hire a satellite and put our message across!!

And we could even go to the Public Records Office and have Hodgson's name officially changed to Woy with (Why) in brackets, i.e. why doesn't he keep his mouth shut.

[quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]andy newbury[/bold] wrote:
saints are a victim of their own sucsess with getting and training youth players to a standard good enough to be in the england team, glad to see them there but sad to see what is happening to our team(saints fc). not quite so keen on watching england play as a result. Never thought I would be saying this[/p][/quote]That's exactly the way I feel. It has taken the gloss off it - I feel we Saints are being ridiculed in some quarters.[/p][/quote]Are we just going to accept this alleged ridicule? Isn't it time we started to dish it out at these denigrators? Any ideas how we can do this?[/p][/quote]We could organise demonstrations in Europe's major cities - bringing traffic to a complete standstill across the continent . We could even hire a satellite and put our message across!![/p][/quote]And we could even go to the Public Records Office and have Hodgson's name officially changed to Woy with (Why) in brackets, i.e. why doesn't he keep his mouth shut.Saint Jinx

andy newbury wrote:
saints are a victim of their own sucsess with getting and training youth players to a standard good enough to be in the england team, glad to see them there but sad to see what is happening to our team(saints fc). not quite so keen on watching england play as a result. Never thought I would be saying this

That's exactly the way I feel. It has taken the gloss off it - I feel we Saints are being ridiculed in some quarters.

Are we just going to accept this alleged ridicule? Isn't it time we started to dish it out at these denigrators? Any ideas how we can do this?

We could organise demonstrations in Europe's major cities - bringing traffic to a complete standstill across the continent . We could even hire a satellite and put our message across!!

I must say though that the thought of SRL missing in a penalty shoot-out for England was beginning to play on my nerves, filling me with dread and shame. If that happens now, I will not be quite so disappointed........
.........

[quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]andy newbury[/bold] wrote:
saints are a victim of their own sucsess with getting and training youth players to a standard good enough to be in the england team, glad to see them there but sad to see what is happening to our team(saints fc). not quite so keen on watching england play as a result. Never thought I would be saying this[/p][/quote]That's exactly the way I feel. It has taken the gloss off it - I feel we Saints are being ridiculed in some quarters.[/p][/quote]Are we just going to accept this alleged ridicule? Isn't it time we started to dish it out at these denigrators? Any ideas how we can do this?[/p][/quote]We could organise demonstrations in Europe's major cities - bringing traffic to a complete standstill across the continent . We could even hire a satellite and put our message across!![/p][/quote]I must say though that the thought of SRL missing in a penalty shoot-out for England was beginning to play on my nerves, filling me with dread and shame. If that happens now, I will not be quite so disappointed........
.........Saint Jinx

Sounds weird don't it retire the number 7 in tribute don't think we will find a 3rd legend for the shirt as good as tiss or lambert

Oh yes we will. Though it would be awful tough to find anyone as effective as LeGod was.
There are others out there - our scouts just have to find them and we have to give them the chance to be developed. JWP will be a handful by the time he's 25 and we may be talking about him in the same way (If he doesn't go to Manure of course)
I will still be watching SRL tonight and think he's one of us though.

[quote][p][bold]Manicsaintbloke[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote:
"Former" Saints striker......just doesn't sound right does it??[/p][/quote]Sounds weird don't it retire the number 7 in tribute don't think we will find a 3rd legend for the shirt as good as tiss or lambert[/p][/quote]Oh yes we will. Though it would be awful tough to find anyone as effective as LeGod was.
There are others out there - our scouts just have to find them and we have to give them the chance to be developed. JWP will be a handful by the time he's 25 and we may be talking about him in the same way (If he doesn't go to Manure of course)
I will still be watching SRL tonight and think he's one of us though.jls217

JohnItaly wrote:
I know a little hard-hearted but only interested in Saints' players playing for England. My interest in the WC might be short lived!!

I think that everyone has said what needs to be said regarding Rickie and I wish him all the best along with all the other England players in the World Cup.

Also hope all our other players on international duty come back to us in one piece.

Or at least not having signed the shirt of a team they are reported as wanting to join!!!!!

[quote][p][bold]SodburySaint93[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote:
I know a little hard-hearted but only interested in Saints' players playing for England. My interest in the WC might be short lived!![/p][/quote]I think that everyone has said what needs to be said regarding Rickie and I wish him all the best along with all the other England players in the World Cup.
Also hope all our other players on international duty come back to us in one piece.[/p][/quote]Or at least not having signed the shirt of a team they are reported as wanting to join!!!!!jls217

andy newbury wrote:
saints are a victim of their own sucsess with getting and training youth players to a standard good enough to be in the england team, glad to see them there but sad to see what is happening to our team(saints fc). not quite so keen on watching england play as a result. Never thought I would be saying this

That's exactly the way I feel. It has taken the gloss off it - I feel we Saints are being ridiculed in some quarters.

Are we just going to accept this alleged ridicule? Isn't it time we started to dish it out at these denigrators? Any ideas how we can do this?

We could organise demonstrations in Europe's major cities - bringing traffic to a complete standstill across the continent . We could even hire a satellite and put our message across!!

I must say though that the thought of SRL missing in a penalty shoot-out for England was beginning to play on my nerves, filling me with dread and shame. If that happens now, I will not be quite so disappointed........

.........

Great point. Never missed one with us did he? Must be their methods have knocked the edge off of what Saints taught him.
Reasonable assumption to make under the circumstances.

[quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]andy newbury[/bold] wrote:
saints are a victim of their own sucsess with getting and training youth players to a standard good enough to be in the england team, glad to see them there but sad to see what is happening to our team(saints fc). not quite so keen on watching england play as a result. Never thought I would be saying this[/p][/quote]That's exactly the way I feel. It has taken the gloss off it - I feel we Saints are being ridiculed in some quarters.[/p][/quote]Are we just going to accept this alleged ridicule? Isn't it time we started to dish it out at these denigrators? Any ideas how we can do this?[/p][/quote]We could organise demonstrations in Europe's major cities - bringing traffic to a complete standstill across the continent . We could even hire a satellite and put our message across!![/p][/quote]I must say though that the thought of SRL missing in a penalty shoot-out for England was beginning to play on my nerves, filling me with dread and shame. If that happens now, I will not be quite so disappointed........
.........[/p][/quote]Great point. Never missed one with us did he? Must be their methods have knocked the edge off of what Saints taught him.
Reasonable assumption to make under the circumstances.jls217

to be brutally honest although I don't begrudge him his move I don't need it rammed down my throat he's no longer a Saints FC player so to be honest I don't care what Lambert does anymore. Move on Echo start backing SFC players that are seemingigly remaining loyal like Morgan, Nathan, Jay etc those players that have left should no longer be worried about.

to be brutally honest although I don't begrudge him his move I don't need it rammed down my throat he's no longer a Saints FC player so to be honest I don't care what Lambert does anymore. Move on Echo start backing SFC players that are seemingigly remaining loyal like Morgan, Nathan, Jay etc those players that have left should no longer be worried about.upwherewebelong

andy newbury wrote:
saints are a victim of their own sucsess with getting and training youth players to a standard good enough to be in the england team, glad to see them there but sad to see what is happening to our team(saints fc). not quite so keen on watching england play as a result. Never thought I would be saying this

That's exactly the way I feel. It has taken the gloss off it - I feel we Saints are being ridiculed in some quarters.

Are we just going to accept this alleged ridicule? Isn't it time we started to dish it out at these denigrators? Any ideas how we can do this?

to hit your question head on yes I have some idea's which I will try to succinctly put below

1. Get the board to get a shift on and appoint a manager rather than them dragging their feet
2. Sign at least 8 new players to replace those that were released and those that either a) have left or b) will be leaving
3. Krueger and the board need to deliver on their promise to be more open - at the moment it's all hot air and no delivery
4. Liebherr herself needs to deliver on her statement that she wants to make the fans smile again so far just empty words
5. Stop selling players
6. Get a kit manufacturer and release next seasons design in red and white stripes
7. announce innovative stadium expansion plans
8. Announce the moving of away fans from the Northam end to a side stand to make BOTH ends home fans only

This should stop the alleged ridicule you refer to

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]andy newbury[/bold] wrote:
saints are a victim of their own sucsess with getting and training youth players to a standard good enough to be in the england team, glad to see them there but sad to see what is happening to our team(saints fc). not quite so keen on watching england play as a result. Never thought I would be saying this[/p][/quote]That's exactly the way I feel. It has taken the gloss off it - I feel we Saints are being ridiculed in some quarters.[/p][/quote]Are we just going to accept this alleged ridicule? Isn't it time we started to dish it out at these denigrators? Any ideas how we can do this?[/p][/quote]to hit your question head on yes I have some idea's which I will try to succinctly put below
1. Get the board to get a shift on and appoint a manager rather than them dragging their feet
2. Sign at least 8 new players to replace those that were released and those that either a) have left or b) will be leaving
3. Krueger and the board need to deliver on their promise to be more open - at the moment it's all hot air and no delivery
4. Liebherr herself needs to deliver on her statement that she wants to make the fans smile again so far just empty words
5. Stop selling players
6. Get a kit manufacturer and release next seasons design in red and white stripes
7. announce innovative stadium expansion plans
8. Announce the moving of away fans from the Northam end to a side stand to make BOTH ends home fans only
This should stop the alleged ridicule you refer toupwherewebelong

andy newbury wrote:
saints are a victim of their own sucsess with getting and training youth players to a standard good enough to be in the england team, glad to see them there but sad to see what is happening to our team(saints fc). not quite so keen on watching england play as a result. Never thought I would be saying this

That's exactly the way I feel. It has taken the gloss off it - I feel we Saints are being ridiculed in some quarters.

Are we just going to accept this alleged ridicule? Isn't it time we started to dish it out at these denigrators? Any ideas how we can do this?

to hit your question head on yes I have some idea's which I will try to succinctly put below

1. Get the board to get a shift on and appoint a manager rather than them dragging their feet
2. Sign at least 8 new players to replace those that were released and those that either a) have left or b) will be leaving
3. Krueger and the board need to deliver on their promise to be more open - at the moment it's all hot air and no delivery
4. Liebherr herself needs to deliver on her statement that she wants to make the fans smile again so far just empty words
5. Stop selling players
6. Get a kit manufacturer and release next seasons design in red and white stripes
7. announce innovative stadium expansion plans
8. Announce the moving of away fans from the Northam end to a side stand to make BOTH ends home fans only

This should stop the alleged ridicule you refer to

Thumbs up from me. Hope someone is listening. Thanks.

[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]andy newbury[/bold] wrote:
saints are a victim of their own sucsess with getting and training youth players to a standard good enough to be in the england team, glad to see them there but sad to see what is happening to our team(saints fc). not quite so keen on watching england play as a result. Never thought I would be saying this[/p][/quote]That's exactly the way I feel. It has taken the gloss off it - I feel we Saints are being ridiculed in some quarters.[/p][/quote]Are we just going to accept this alleged ridicule? Isn't it time we started to dish it out at these denigrators? Any ideas how we can do this?[/p][/quote]to hit your question head on yes I have some idea's which I will try to succinctly put below
1. Get the board to get a shift on and appoint a manager rather than them dragging their feet
2. Sign at least 8 new players to replace those that were released and those that either a) have left or b) will be leaving
3. Krueger and the board need to deliver on their promise to be more open - at the moment it's all hot air and no delivery
4. Liebherr herself needs to deliver on her statement that she wants to make the fans smile again so far just empty words
5. Stop selling players
6. Get a kit manufacturer and release next seasons design in red and white stripes
7. announce innovative stadium expansion plans
8. Announce the moving of away fans from the Northam end to a side stand to make BOTH ends home fans only
This should stop the alleged ridicule you refer to[/p][/quote]Thumbs up from me. Hope someone is listening. Thanks.OSPREYSAINT

Found out for the first goal by not getting goal side of the forward - basic schoolboy error defending

2nd goal, never closed down and stood off the winger.

Not having a go at Shaw, we all know he's better than that, however he is 18 and his mind is not on the game - blame the agent/man u scout/media for that performance.

Hoping he has parents and mentors making sure he makes the right decisions for his future

[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SodburySaint93[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Nice goal Rickie![/p][/quote]Yeah, great strike Rickie (Liverpool and England)
Oh dear Shaw, replaced by a reserve - look son, concentrate on your football and not man u head turners, stay at Saints and learn your trade[/p][/quote]Good advice mate shame his agent ain't going to listen. Needs his legs slapping.[/p][/quote]Found out for the first goal by not getting goal side of the forward - basic schoolboy error defending
2nd goal, never closed down and stood off the winger.
Not having a go at Shaw, we all know he's better than that, however he is 18 and his mind is not on the game - blame the agent/man u scout/media for that performance.
Hoping he has parents and mentors making sure he makes the right decisions for his futureSodburySaint93

It has ALWAYS been said that LUKE SHAW should stay at SAINTS to develop his game. He is still young and learning.

Looked at his DECISION-MAKING at Wet Spam Away - anfd half the time you wondered if the full back had gone missing as he was OUT OF POSITION regularl;y.

Tomight he got caught out early on for the first Ecuador GOAL - he should have been in front of his man.

RICKIE - We know his quality from his IMMENSE Contibution at SFC.

Not getting involved in the politics of him wanting way at Wet Spam and then his dream move TO HIS NUMBER 1 CLUB.

MY VALUATION wilth about 2 years to run would be about 10-15 MIllion

SHOCKING THAT HE WAS LET GO FOR 4 MILLION.

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It has ALWAYS been said that LUKE SHAW should stay at SAINTS to develop his game. He is still young and learning.
Looked at his DECISION-MAKING at Wet Spam Away - anfd half the time you wondered if the full back had gone missing as he was OUT OF POSITION regularl;y.
Tomight he got caught out early on for the first Ecuador GOAL - he should have been in front of his man.
RICKIE - We know his quality from his IMMENSE Contibution at SFC.
Not getting involved in the politics of him wanting way at Wet Spam and then his dream move TO HIS NUMBER 1 CLUB.
MY VALUATION wilth about 2 years to run would be about 10-15 MIllion
SHOCKING THAT HE WAS LET GO FOR 4 MILLION.The Rise of The Foot Soldier.

It has ALWAYS been said that LUKE SHAW should stay at SAINTS to develop his game. He is still young and learning.

Looked at his DECISION-MAKING at Wet Spam Away - anfd half the time you wondered if the full back had gone missing as he was OUT OF POSITION regularl;y.

Tomight he got caught out early on for the first Ecuador GOAL - he should have been in front of his man.

RICKIE - We know his quality from his IMMENSE Contibution at SFC.

Not getting involved in the politics of him wanting way at Wet Spam and then his dream move TO HIS NUMBER 1 CLUB.

MY VALUATION wilth about 2 years to run would be about 10-15 MIllion

SHOCKING THAT HE WAS LET GO FOR 4 MILLION.

Look

Rickie's gone and at a value the club thought decent enough. Rickie was immense for us and will be remembered for that, my hat off to him......

My concern is for an 18 year old defender or wing back or whatever anyone wants to call his position.

We all know that was pretty much England's 2nd XI playing tonight and I thought a few players weren't up to it - for various reasons.

Letting Woy dictate players contracts and transfer negotiations ahead of the England lads going down to Brazil - where nobody will be allowed to visit - has heaped pressure on our players (and other teams players) to finalise any move, wage negotiation or contract extension and is WRONG.

It is not for the England management set up to decide the fate of club players positions within the transfer market. I hope players are picked on merit and not on who they play for (wishful thinking I know)

I believe that Luke is caught between a rock and a hard place at the moment and can only hope he is being guided by the right people and not mercenaries intent on their own gratification.

Sorry, rant over - wishing England all the best

COYR and England

[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote:
SPOT ON POSTS
It has ALWAYS been said that LUKE SHAW should stay at SAINTS to develop his game. He is still young and learning.
Looked at his DECISION-MAKING at Wet Spam Away - anfd half the time you wondered if the full back had gone missing as he was OUT OF POSITION regularl;y.
Tomight he got caught out early on for the first Ecuador GOAL - he should have been in front of his man.
RICKIE - We know his quality from his IMMENSE Contibution at SFC.
Not getting involved in the politics of him wanting way at Wet Spam and then his dream move TO HIS NUMBER 1 CLUB.
MY VALUATION wilth about 2 years to run would be about 10-15 MIllion
SHOCKING THAT HE WAS LET GO FOR 4 MILLION.[/p][/quote]Look
Rickie's gone and at a value the club thought decent enough. Rickie was immense for us and will be remembered for that, my hat off to him......
My concern is for an 18 year old defender or wing back or whatever anyone wants to call his position.
We all know that was pretty much England's 2nd XI playing tonight and I thought a few players weren't up to it - for various reasons.
Letting Woy dictate players contracts and transfer negotiations ahead of the England lads going down to Brazil - where nobody will be allowed to visit - has heaped pressure on our players (and other teams players) to finalise any move, wage negotiation or contract extension and is WRONG.
It is not for the England management set up to decide the fate of club players positions within the transfer market. I hope players are picked on merit and not on who they play for (wishful thinking I know)
I believe that Luke is caught between a rock and a hard place at the moment and can only hope he is being guided by the right people and not mercenaries intent on their own gratification.
Sorry, rant over - wishing England all the best
COYR and EnglandSodburySaint93