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View Poll Results: When will you say/admit that the Knicks are a better team without Stephon Marbury?

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If the Knicks get to ten games over .500 in games played without him

28.70%

... 5 games over .500 in games played without him

14.35%

... get to .500 in games played without him

313.04%

No matter how much they win or lose they're already better.

939.13%

Just coincidence/bad luck that its happened for the 4th time in his career, should change his #to 13

00%

Pfft you know nothing about basketball, he is and always will be Starbury so **** all you haters.

At What Point Will You Say The Knicks Are Better Without Steph?

A 3 game win streak and an overall record of 6-8 without him is not a fair enough sample to judge however talk amongst Knicks fans is rampant now ,more then ever that this team is better off without Stephon Marbury. What do you think?

I will now self destruct after posting this thread...

Gms, coaches, players may change but as long as Dolan is in charge the results will stay the same.

i def think they r not better off with him not playing but we have played some good ball the last 3 games while he has been injured.
i would like to see us play a few more games against quality sides to see how we run the ball and that before i make my mind up.
The 3 wins have come against Detroit who was coming off back to back matches including OT against Charlotte, then Washington who was coming off a back to back and then the Nets who we r now 3-0 against this season so i still havent been moved away from Marbury.
Its a good question though, im not sure how long it will take to find out if this is the case or not.

At no point will I think the Knicks are better without Marbury. They were starting to play better before he got hurt. Alot of it is because of the month that Robinson and Crawford are having (check my game thread for stats) and because Balkman is finally playin. I think if Marbury had been playin the past 3 games we still wouldve won but all I can do their is speculate.

If we continue to play well, then Marbury comes back and we start to lose then I will say we are a better team without him. I see this not goin away no matter what, people will continue to bring up Marburys name. Some of us will have fair criticism, some of us will have unfair criticism, and others like myslef will continue to defend him.

I already said it about 6 months ago after the season ended. I just was pissed to see a professional athlete drunk and high on television "trying" to make a good name for himself sellin Starbury's.

Plus his previous teams he didn't lead them up to anything special. He is a talent don't get me wrong ,but a right team has to find him at one point. Do I see him a success in another team? That question will be answered as "No". He is simply done. No one NO ONE wants him....

you cant really jjudge by tht record, b/c our overall record sucks. But we are NOT a better team witout steph. He is a top 10 pg no doubt. When healthy he his the best player on this team. Steph steps up when needed the most. Do i have to bring up the stats from last year again??? There is no way this team is better without stephon marbury. period. wate a minute, i will bring up those stats one more time for all the haters:

you cant really jjudge by tht record, b/c our overall record sucks. But we are NOT a better team witout steph. He is a top 10 pg no doubt. When healthy he his the best player on this team. Steph steps up when needed the most. Do i have to bring up the stats from last year again??? There is no way this team is better without stephon marbury. period. wate a minute, i will bring up those stats one more time for all the haters:

those r some serious stats lol. the kid can play when he wants to.
It will be interesting to see what happens when Crawford and Nate have a bad game at the same time and see fi we r missing him cause this scenario will happen at some time. Do u think Jones will step up and lead from the front?? i dont know, maybe but i would like Marbury there or someone of his calibre helping us

Great stats, what a year he had last year. He almost led us to the playoffs until he got injured. You cant go by what he did in the past i think hes a changed man and hes ready to lead whoever wants him to the playoffs and hopefully further. Im goin to the gym rite now but Im sure theres gonna be alot more hate in here then there already so we'll see whatsup when I get back.

At no point will I think the Knicks are better without Marbury. They were starting to play better before he got hurt. Alot of it is because of the month that Robinson and Crawford are having (check my game thread for stats) and because Balkman is finally playin. I think if Marbury had been playin the past 3 games we still wouldve won but all I can do their is speculate.

If we continue to play well, then Marbury comes back and we start to lose then I will say we are a better team without him. I see this not goin away no matter what, people will continue to bring up Marburys name. Some of us will have fair criticism, some of us will have unfair criticism, and others like myslef will continue to defend him.

I made it for the poll, I had no idea the thread gets posted before the poll does.

Gms, coaches, players may change but as long as Dolan is in charge the results will stay the same.

man forget stephon, the offense is looking much more crisp without em and the team seems like they having fun out there, i wanna see players that u know is going put 100&#37; effort no matter who they playing and i just dont see dat from steph anymore, i dont wanna see this guy in a knick uniform anymore

It is unfair to say the Knicks are better without Marbury, because by saying that, you're saying everyone on the team is playing well and he's just holding them back. If this was true, then the Knicks would've started winning games in Dec., when he left after his father's death.The main reason the Knicks won these three games is cause Jamal and Nate were on fire all these games.It will be very hard for the Knicks to win, if these players get cold(especially Crawford).Marbury definitely has not played as well as he should've this year, but the bottom line is the Knicks have not played well this year, whether he's on or off the court. The Knicks only have 6 wins with him out of the lineup, and we're midway passed January. That doesn't look like a team that's better without Marbury to me.

I already said it about 6 months ago after the season ended. I just was pissed to see a professional athlete drunk and high on television "trying" to make a good name for himself sellin Starbury's.

Plus his previous teams he didn't lead them up to anything special. He is a talent don't get me wrong ,but a right team has to find him at one point. Do I see him a success in another team? That question will be answered as "No". He is simply done. No one NO ONE wants him....

NyKnicks126 me and and you have had numerous arguements and for the most part rarely agree, but i couldn't agree with you more on this post. You are 100 &#37; right