the foreigners are taking our jobs

"The labor-force participation rate of foreign-born men in 2010 was 80.1 percent, a full 10 percentage points higher than the rate among native-born men."

Hm...

Idiot
February 24th, 2012 8:28am

It goes on to state many interesting things.

Illegal aliens are 94% employed. They are drawn to states that have lousy welfare benefits because they aren't eligible for them and it means they have less competition getting jobs since lazy white americans just sit around on welfare and don't want to work. Taxes tend to be lower in these states as well.

States report that illegal aliens help the economy because they depress wages across the board and this makes the state more competitive, causing economic growth as more jobs for illegals are created.

That's the first I heard it's the Republicans that want more illegals. I thought that was a Dem thing. I suppose you are enjoying your alternate reality there.

Idiot
February 24th, 2012 8:43am

No, Republicans hate foreigners. They just like firing Americans so they can hire illegal immigrants.

The cognitive dissonance is only apparent to you.

SaveTheHubble
February 24th, 2012 8:44am

Oh, and hating foreigners keeps wages low.

It's low wages they want. How they get there is not important to them.

SaveTheHubble
February 24th, 2012 8:45am

+1 to "Vote Republican"

Morons
February 24th, 2012 8:48am

Means +1 to "You're fired".

You don't get this "enlightened self-interest" idea apparently.

SaveTheHubble
February 24th, 2012 8:49am

@Hubble

Have you ever met a Republican? Where do you live central LA?

Morons
February 24th, 2012 8:49am

I see them all the time on TV. Fox News, the debates.

Oh, I don't actually WATCH Fox News anymore, it was taking too long to wash the vomit out of the carpets. But from time to time Jon Stewart has a Fox News segment which is illustrative.

I can't listen to the Republican Debates real-time either, for the same reason. They seem to be working hard to parrot more and more lunatic Conservative talking points past each other. But I hear summaries from time to time.

I don't know who this Socialist Liberal Tax-and-spend Job-Destroying Obama is they keep talking about. As far as I can tell, Obama is leaning over backwards to be moderate, almost conservative. Why, before the oil platform burned down he was loosening oil drilling standards. And his Obamacare? Almost a copy of what Romney did. And Unemployment? It's been dropping consistently since Obama got his stimulus plan in place.

So yes, I know Republicans, at least Tea-Party Republicans. Hey, if the shoe doesn't fit, don't fucking put it on your own foot.

SaveTheHubble
February 24th, 2012 8:54am

>Illegal aliens are 94% employed. They are drawn to states that have lousy welfare benefits because they aren't eligible for them...

States with lousy welfare benefits are also states that have lousy law enforcement where the state looks the other way and refuses to enforce laws that cover who is allowed to work in the US. That's how 82 year old women get thrown out of section 8 housing in Colorado because her SSN is being used by illegals to work at 50+ different jobs at the same time in CO, making her reported income too high for welfare.

I can assure everyone in attendance that the nasty and unfair stereotype that StH is promulgating of the Tea Party whack job and hard right conservative who mindlessly absorbs and regurgitates every single Faux News sound bite....

...Is absolutely for real and can be found in huge quantities. In, of course, flyover country.

I am just betting that you don't see the breed very much, if at all, on the coasts. Here in Ohio and similar places, they are everywhere and they are mainstream.

John Boehner comes from my area. Plus many others just like him. And that's the moderate contingent around here.

Bored Bystander
February 24th, 2012 11:44am

Where is legalize drugs and no war with Iran on that 1-20 scale? Trying to figure where Ron Paul fits on it.

Idiot
February 24th, 2012 12:31pm

aka

What Would Ron Paul Do?

test.

Quant
February 24th, 2012 12:53pm

Hm, let's see. Let's just try to think what a completely selfish person, who doesn't think the Federal Government should be involved in anything, who wants low to zero taxes, low to zero regulation, and nobody telling anybody how prejudiced they're allowed to be -- would think.

I just mean, using Ron Paul as a yardstick is pointless. It's not going to help in the coming election, it's not going to help in making moral judgements. The only reason you might be concerned is if Fox News is hyping him more than he deserves, but they're not.

So you can follow Ron Paul all you want, it'll ultimately be meaningless.

SaveTheHubble
February 24th, 2012 1:46pm

Your argument is that everyone not on the pro-corporate pro-war number line is irrelevant.

True, until the revolution comes, or the US is nuked by China. I agree that because of advocacy of the pro-corporate pro-war number line by people like yourself as the only acceptable solution, the US will be destroyed from within or without. That's your choice though, hope you can live with it, or die with it as the case may be.

Idiot
February 24th, 2012 2:03pm

No, that's really not my argument. I'm sorry if that's all you can hear.

SaveTheHubble
February 24th, 2012 2:04pm

Day tuk ur jerbs!

Actually, we gave those jobs away because we are not racists.

Dr. Horrorwitz
February 25th, 2012 4:05pm

The Dutch invited East European workers so that they would have some fresh victims for racial slur. Insulting Muslims gets boring quickly (and you may get stabbed).

Quant
February 26th, 2012 12:50pm

Eastern Europeans and Western Europeans belong to the same White Race though.

Confused, hm?

Dr. Horrorwitz
February 26th, 2012 1:29pm

White race?

It is known light skin is a genetic abnormality, a mutation.

Idiot
February 26th, 2012 2:28pm

No, it is an adaptation to the lesser availability of subshine at higher lattitudes.

Second fail in 24 h :-)

Dr. Horrorwitz
February 26th, 2012 2:51pm

And the white race is more than the absence of melanin.

Ever looked at an albino nigger? Still looks like a monkey.

The white race has unique features such as honesty, cooperativeness, willingness to work for the common good, generosity, inteelligence, beauty.

Dr. Horrorwitz
February 26th, 2012 2:54pm

14/88

Dr. Horrorwitz
February 26th, 2012 2:57pm

"Eastern Europeans and Western Europeans belong to the same White Race though. "

So? "Race" doesn't have to refer to skin colour. Historically, people said for example "Germanic race", meaning Germans, Dutch and sometimes also English, as opposed to French, Italians, etc.

Quant
February 27th, 2012 6:21am

Where did I say that race is related to skin color?

Dr. Horrorwitz
February 27th, 2012 6:53am

OK, so "White Race" refers to the colour of their underpants. Nice to know...

Quant
February 27th, 2012 7:04am

"White" is the name of the race, not the color of their skin.

Dr. Horrorwitz
February 27th, 2012 7:49am

And it comes from the colour of their:

a) skin
b) underpants
c) cheque book covers?

There's a quick test of your intelligence (or sanity).

Quant
February 27th, 2012 8:31am

The color is inconsequential, but one of many identifying features. "white race" harkens back from olden times.

They say: "A color can't possibly predict intelligence because a color is nothing but a reflection of the sun's frequencies".

Sure. But it is highly correlated with brain structure, because the two evolved simultaneously under different environmental factors. The correlation is lighter skin tone correlates to higher intelligence, because colder climes require a higher IQ to survive.

Dr. Horrorwitz
February 27th, 2012 8:58am

We more appropriately should call it the "intelligent race".

The blacks are the "physical race".

Dr. Horrorwitz
February 27th, 2012 8:58am

"colder climes require a higher IQ to survive."

Bullshit.

Quant
February 27th, 2012 9:01am

It's your "bullshit" against the hundreds of published, peer-reviewed studies.

David Duke took the trouble to summarize a dozen or so of the major studies and made his entire book on the subject available free of charge as downloadable MP3 podcasts.

So you can't deny the truth any more.

If you deny the many studies done worldwide, you profess yourself to be a cultural Marxist. That is fine, as long as you realize that it's just an opinion, and we all know that every asshole has one.

Dr. Horrorwitz
February 27th, 2012 9:05am

"It's your "bullshit" against the hundreds of published, peer-reviewed studies."

Where the citations? No podcasts.

"David Duke took the trouble to summarize a dozen or so of the major studies and made his entire book on the subject available free of charge as downloadable MP3 podcasts."

Ah, yes, this is the standard way of disseminating peer-reviewed research.

"So you can't deny the truth any more."

You offered no proof, so it's just your BS. It doesn't even seem plausible, because every climate has its particular set of dangers and why should the tropical jungle demand less skills to survive than the taiga?

Quant
February 27th, 2012 10:36am

Because in the tropical Jungle, you can pick the fruit from the trees and in the Taiga, you have to put in a helluva lot of hard work to survive the winter.

As in well-insulated buildings, reindeer herding and dog training, hunting and gathering, the making of very warm clothes etc.

Dr. Horrorwitz
February 27th, 2012 12:59pm

But you abviously are a raving loon, a brainwashed moron who ignores logic, common sense and scientific studies I pointed you towards. When you argue with a pig, you only get dirty and the pig likes it. So good luck with your theories.

Dr. Horrorwitz
February 27th, 2012 1:01pm

Voice of experience there, I'd listen to him.

SaveTheHubble
February 27th, 2012 1:22pm

Coming from a reli-nut who believes in a 4000 year old fairy tale, lol.

Dr. Horrorwitz
February 27th, 2012 1:46pm

See, you're completely wrong about that.

No, I just figured you had superior experience wrestling with pigs in mud, is all.

SaveTheHubble
February 27th, 2012 1:48pm

You should stop figuring and start edu-macating yourself.

Come back when you learnt some facts instead of absorbed some voodoo dogma's.

Dr. Horrorwitz
February 27th, 2012 1:49pm

QED.

SaveTheHubble
February 27th, 2012 1:59pm

"Because in the tropical Jungle, you can pick the fruit from the trees"

Please, go to the jungle and try this. Do the world a favour.

Quant
February 28th, 2012 7:08am

No fucking idiot, I'm talking about evolution.

100,000 years ago, therewere nearly no people on the planet and a LOT of fruit.