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Well finally got the opportunity to see and handle a Canik gun. I talked with the Canik USA guy and made an appointment for him to come by the shop and see their gun. Dean Whitt arrived with one of their alloy compact guns for me to peek and handle. I was hoping too for a full size alloy gun, but he said they were out.

Quickly looking at the gun, it is pretty well made. fit is solid and tight. Double action was smooth and I am guessing in the 10#-12# range and the single action about 6#-8#. The single action feels pretty neutral with no camming. There is not as much creep as on a CZ, but seeing the hammer, the hooks are not as long on th Canik.The sear and the FPB lifter are kind of locked together, so I am curious as what is going on in the lockwork underneath.

I was told that CZ sights will fit the Canik's dovetails, they mentioned for possibly the meprolight nightsights. Told also that the grip panels cuts are different so CZ grips will not fit onto the frame. Perhaps with some modification, they may.

So anyway we ordered one for the shop. So I will get an opportunity to see what may or may not interchange between it and the CZ as far as hammers, triggers, springs, etc.

The Caniks can be put on safe with the hammer down, so something on the inside has to be different. They also use Witness pattern magazines, not CZ pattern magazines. They close, but not the exact same.

The Caniks can be put on safe with the hammer down, so something on the inside has to be different. They also use Witness pattern magazines, not CZ pattern magazines. They close, but not the exact same.

Bret thanks for the info..is that the small frame mags or large frame mags?They said they might be able to drop off the gun tomorrow at the shop, so I am hoping to have something to play with this weekend.

Caniks use the small frame Witness pattern magazines. However, CZ pattern magazines may work. CZ compact magazines kept dropping out of my Canik compact, but the full sized CZ magazines work just fine. Someone from Canik-USA told me on the phone that CZ75 Compact magazines would work. Based on my experience, that's not 100% correct. See the following thread for more details:http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=40301.0

looks as good as the sample I saw yesterday.DA pulled at 10#, SA pulled at 4.5# if you eliminate the FPB, it pulls at 4#DA is pretty smooth, possibly room for some improvement, SA has a small amount of creep and the hammer had some minor camming to the rear .

I took the lower apart and it is very similar to a CZ safety model gun.

-A few difference that I found at first glance:

-trigger return spring fits into a tunnel in the frame rather than the groove CZ uses.*SMALL PART WARNING* safety has a small ball bearing/spring that it uses to get a 'click' feel when moving. it will fall out when you seperate the safety from the side of the frame-sear interlocks into side of firing pin block lifter. as well as both being moved by the trigger bar, they move each other. there is no lifter spring, so this is probably to help return the lifter into its down position.-hammer retaining pin pushes into a groove in the hammer pin, rather than blocking the pin movement.-disconnector is EAA/Tanfoglio style-there were other differences in some of the radius cut on the slide stop, sear, etc.

-A CZ slide will not fit onto the Canik frames. the rail is just slightly too wide. Don't think it would be a problem to mill a CZ slide to fit the frame. but have not checked yet on how the barrel would fit the frame.

I still need to tear apart the slide, but I had to go back to work. So more playing and some more photos later

Very Interesting comparisons. Does the Canik Automatic Firing Pin Safety operate the same as the CZ or the Tanfoglio pistols?

it is kind of a little of both. it is a separate part like the CZ, but it is interlocked to the sear, so they move like one part like the Tanfoglio system. There is not lifter spring like in the CZ, but rather it returns to the down position with the sear.

I haven't shot it yet..but since it is a compact 9mm gun, I figured it would shoot like a 9mm compact gun.I was interested in the frame being alloy and what was it like as compared to the CZ. Since I already have it apart, I will probably start polishing and see if I can smooth out the trigger in both DA/SA.Figure I'll address any function issues ( if any ) once I get there.Also want to see what options are for sights, grips and mags.

I did see that a MecGar 16rnd mag with an SP01 basepad will fit and function.