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Re: David Petraeus resigns as CIA director

Originally Posted by GiancarloC

Cantor's own career could be at risk now... regardless if he made it an election issue or not. As a lawmaker he had a duty to report it to the executive branch. There could be other implications here. The reason why Cantor didn't make it an election issue suggests potential involvement on his part and potentially other GOP lawmakers.

precisely

The GOP would be Wise to back up a bit and not pick a fight with the agency. They won't win. Petraeus was expected to run for office in 2016 and be ready to get the nomination by 2020... it's what they were grooming him for.

DC intrigue...lol. It's never about the sex. The sex is the public excuse to have a spat. The outcome of the spat? keep your eye on that ball.

Cantor may have taken the Bhengazi conspiracy away from the GOP, by being a heavy handed free wheeling politician who thought procedure meant nothing... in effect. He thinks he is himself...HA

We're gonna sit down and have ourselves a drink! And after we're done - after *I'm* done, you can run upstairs and take whichever one of them little pills makes you feel the best~Dolores Claiborne

Re: David Petraeus resigns as CIA director

The reason everyone is focused on his sex life --- one simple fact -- Mr. Patraeus was the head of CIA. He made himself open to blackmail. Think about the possibilities.

What a crock of crap. Think about possibilities? C'mon.
How again did this information become public? Oh that's right--the "wronged" mistress outed the affair.

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He referred to the FBI -- you should be glad Cantor did not make it an election issue.

And how exactly would Mr. Cantor been able to spin this? Please enlighten me and the rest of the readers here. Mr. Cantor will be caught up in the investigation--you can bet your bippy on that. And, it won't help his future leadership ambitions.

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It is lip smackingly delicious to see the hetero boys club caught with their boxers down around their ankles again....trying to figure out ways to avoid collateral damage.

right?

And they said DOMA and DADT are attacks on traditional relationships....

Is this the traditions they mean? Sounds like a cheap skinemax production. Lewd and tawdry, and god knows what is happening with the kids from that woman's twin? To think that hetero parenting is so neglectful.

It's clear they have no respect for the family unit.

We're gonna sit down and have ourselves a drink! And after we're done - after *I'm* done, you can run upstairs and take whichever one of them little pills makes you feel the best~Dolores Claiborne

Re: David Petraeus resigns as CIA director

Originally Posted by JayHawk

Both clips are funny end to end but the miriad of clips where fox news 'pundits' express outrage over whatever vague conspiracy they cantrive and then Stewart (a comedian mind you) blows up their arguments with their own news broadcast.... amazing....

It was rather brilliant.

Originally Posted by opinterph

Is that duty formalized in the Constitution, federal law, or some other authority?

I can't pin it down, either, but it makes sense.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

Re: David Petraeus resigns as CIA director

Every citizen is complicit in a crime that they witness and do not report.

Cantor's fingers are all over this, and he had an obligation to his office to report knowledge of any laws broken, or any clear and present danger that the nation may face that they discover as they function in their office. It's clear that this contact happened with Cantor because he's a congressman.

Why Cantor, as a congressman, decided to keep the secret from President Obama is irrelevant. It was not his call to make.

It reflects at least, his contempt for the duly elected Two term president of the United States, Barack Obama.

The answer is in the Oath of office...

The current oath was enacted in 1884:
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.

We're gonna sit down and have ourselves a drink! And after we're done - after *I'm* done, you can run upstairs and take whichever one of them little pills makes you feel the best~Dolores Claiborne

Re: David Petraeus resigns as CIA director

There were classified documents passed, you will find, or the hand off would not have occurred from humint to Exec.

Even if not, the problem in the link is when Cantor received the info, and did not pass it on to the general's superior, President Obama. the posibility of being compromised, of others having the info and using the info, demanded that the president take him out of office. Just the way it goes.

It sucks to be held to that high a bar, but then we only have one CIA director at a time, and if they are vulnerable to outside undue influence to keep their secret, then well.. that's how that world works, and everyone in it knows it.

So the posibility of illegality was all that was needed to set off the bells and whistles. Cantor didn't set them off. He is smart enough to know that inaction is as complicit as participation, when you are talking about keeping secrets of and about the CIA director from the president.

We're gonna sit down and have ourselves a drink! And after we're done - after *I'm* done, you can run upstairs and take whichever one of them little pills makes you feel the best~Dolores Claiborne

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The reason Cantor was involved is the FBI weenie contacted his representative who then told him to call Cantor.

Well before the election mind you. Republicans thought it better to sit on this one and not have yet another republican scandal before an election. Probably figured it would remind voters of the Bush years.

Everyone can be great, because everyone can serve.~ Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Not Blaming Cantor for anything more than failure and incompetence. But republican inability to get anything done is well documented so that is rather redundant to say republican and failure. It does seem a bit odd the Congress is bitching they were not told in a timely manner yet one of them knew and was keeping it from others....

Everyone can be great, because everyone can serve.~ Martin Luther King, Jr.

Re: David Petraeus resigns as CIA director

No that's the bitch of of it. There are no allegations of anything beyond horny straight guys with wives.

Well, he did resign without being asked to.

And, he did the "drop box" communication trick like any innocent and guilt-free person would do.

I have problems with the FBI checking someone's e-mails and then forcing them to resign. I also have problems with the ex-head of the military having sex under a desk with a slutty, so-called biographer.

"Rarely do we find men who willingly engage in hard solid thinking. There is an almost universal quest for easy answers and half-baked solutions. Nothing pains some people more than having to think.'' - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

Re: David Petraeus resigns as CIA director

Reverend Al last night on his show did a segment on how Faux news bobble heads are comparing this and the related Benghazi (sp?) attack "scandals" to two of the country's most famous REPUBLICAN coverups--Watergate and WMD/9/11.

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I can't remember a time when the Faux news folks let the facts get in the way of their "news" stories.

Do you think they have any idea what they are saying? They can't be that stupid, can they? I would be curious to know what these "newscasters" are paid to act out and play simple stupid. Their cue cards must give them instructions on how to act outraged when they are saying outrageous things.

Re: David Petraeus resigns as CIA director

Originally Posted by JayHawk

I again am asking WHAT is being covered up...lol... republicans still havent said... in each of those other instances it was quite clear what crime was committed.

McCain is now backing away from the whole accusation of cover up by starting to chatter about how inept she was as a diplomat by not personally investigating the report she was given. It's a bizarre mental process, even for him. He LOOKED like he was grasping at straws.

Obama has rattled his cage. If you want to hit a girl, ole johny McCain, you're going to have to get through the big black guy willing to stand up for her.

We're gonna sit down and have ourselves a drink! And after we're done - after *I'm* done, you can run upstairs and take whichever one of them little pills makes you feel the best~Dolores Claiborne

Re: David Petraeus resigns as CIA director

Originally Posted by MisterB

I can't remember a time when the Faux news folks let the facts get in the way of their "news" stories.

Do you think they have any idea what they are saying? They can't be that stupid, can they? I would be curious to know what these "newscasters" are paid to act out and play simple stupid. Their cue cards must give them instructions on how to act outraged when they are saying outrageous things.

The newscasters are not all going along.... aparently Geraldo Rivera threw a hissy on the air calling someone a liar for saying Rice was misleading people.

I don't watch FOX. I have it blocked in my house. It is not allowed to pass through my DVR reciever...lol

But I did hear about this somewhere. The rest are doing as they are told.

We're gonna sit down and have ourselves a drink! And after we're done - after *I'm* done, you can run upstairs and take whichever one of them little pills makes you feel the best~Dolores Claiborne

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I don't watch Faux either. But I do enjoy the montage of clips from that network that gets played on MSNBC and Comedy Central.

In some of the most recent clips I've seen, it looks like Gretchen and Steve are constipated with all their facial contortions. I am just amazed that they can read some of the stuff they say without laughing out loud.

I remember Steve Doocy when he started out here in the Washington DC market. He did not last long at all. He's a phoney, and the viewers voted him off this TV market. Kinda like this last election...lol.

Re: David Petraeus resigns as CIA director

So his claim is that he did inform someone. Expected, but how many believe him?

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

Re: David Petraeus resigns as CIA director

Originally Posted by MisterB

I don't watch Faux either. But I do enjoy the montage of clips from that network that gets played on MSNBC and Comedy Central.

In some of the most recent clips I've seen, it looks like Gretchen and Steve are constipated with all their facial contortions. I am just amazed that they can read some of the stuff they say without laughing out loud.

I remember Steve Doocy when he started out here in the Washington DC market. He did not last long at all. He's a phoney, and the viewers voted him off this TV market. Kinda like this last election...lol.

Since you said that you only watch Fox News on MSNBC how could you comment on anything about Fox. Sorry no cred.

Also, you might want to check your memory. Doocy was an Emmy award winning reporter in DC for 6 years according to Wiki. He started his career in KC not DC.

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Since you said that you only watch Fox News on MSNBC how could you comment on anything about Fox. Sorry no cred.

Also, you might want to check your memory. Doocy was an Emmy award winning reporter in DC for 6 years according to Wiki. He started his career in KC not DC.

No cred? Au contraire mon ami. Since I get my Fox clips from MSNBC and you get your MSNBC clips from Fox, my cred=your cred.

As to Doocy, he was a LOCAL emmy winner for feature reporting. You know, the fluff stuff. But I guess those awards were not enough for the suits to keep him. That surely qualified him to be a political reported, yeah...

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You could have said you were wrong instead of spinning your comment about Doocy into something else.

Here's your fluff reporter . . . Christi Parsons, Chicago Tribune

Here you go. I was wrong about Doocy regarding where he started his career. I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me. And please forgive me for being unaware that he was a puff piece LOCAL emmy award winner.

Isn't it refreshing when someone can admit he or she is wrong? You should try it. It can be very liberating.

However, doesn't change the fact that Doocy's a hack reporter. Period.