Which looks right to me ... however it is not working as i would expect ..... when i made the switch a few months ago the above commands worked just fine... granted i don't know systemd very well and should probably read over the manual .... however that is time consuming and time is currently short..

sure however .... This is the same setup i had before ... with the same versions ....

this was an issue before i added sparky repo .. which is Debian as well ... i have never seen conflicts ..

and the only thing i using from sparky is enlightenment ... and that shouldn't conflict ..

and i just checked the kernel packages and they claim to be Debian .. the others in that list are disabled and not used for instants from SID is not used ... the only repos i am using are sparky(for enlightenment ) wine and Debian .

and you know it would be great if you know the system better than me rather than telling i did something wrong .. to give an idea of where to look i'm not lost in linux i have used it for a long time ... however... very simple things in linux seem to matter a lot

So ... maybe i should ask, what would cause that to happen ?

i have the same issue running from a live setup .... which is A pure untouched Debian ... so i'm not sure that is the issue..

SparkyLinux, in case you missed it, have all three flavors, so the only mistake cryptoa was the sparky repo version you added.

Start over and change the version of that repository and every thing will be fine, as suggested by our not so helpful collage link, you cannot mix Debian flavors (stable, testing, unstable), that's when problems occur.

...when i made the switch a few months ago the above commands worked just fine... granted i don't know systemd very well and should probably read over the manual ....

When you made what switch? I know systemd is tough to understand, I struggle a lot with it. reading over the manual is going to take awhile, so I think cheat sheets are good. There are some good basic helpful links on the forum here about it, many posted by HOAS. Searching with the box, or searching previous posts by HOAS has been helpful to me.

Why haven't you checked '# systemctl status whatever.service'

?

About the sparkylinux repo thing, well enlightnemnet is in debian repos isn't it? What would you want to mix the two? I really am a true believer that a person should be able to do whatever they want on their computer, but the advice is really plain:

Ubuntu, Mint or other derivative repositories are not compatible with Debian!

bw123 wrote:About the sparkylinux repo thing, well enlightnemnet is in debian repos isn't it? What would you want to mix the two? I really am a true believer that a person should be able to do whatever they want on their computer, but the advice is really plain:

Ubuntu, Mint or other derivative repositories are not compatible with Debian!

OMG how is possible that I'm using as main repo Debian and also sparkylinux as secondary one?? Here is why:"...It has been built on the “testing” branch of Debian GNU/Linux...""...A common, but not unique pattern for derivatives is that of reusing/rebuilding most of the official Debian packages and adding some custom packages of their own...."

Ubuntu, Mint or other derivative repositories are not compatible with Debian!

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Forgot to mention what was said before, and what this apply to:"...For example, installing packages from buster on a stretch system could also install newer versions of core libraries including libc6. This results in a system that is not testing or stable but a broken mix of the two..."

Ubuntu is a rebuild of Debian, so does have it's own main repo, not a direct derivation like sparkylinux or others distros can be, but in genneral, what that means is: don't mix flavors. If your derivation Debian uses Debian repos as main ones, than most likely it only have extra programs or packages, using Debian as base, so you just keep the same flavor, stable, testing or unstable.

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds."Albert Einstein"All wrong-doing arises because of mind. If mind is transformed can wrong-doing remain?"Buddha

"Don't blindly follow bad advice......It's better to take the time to figure out the correct way to do something first than spending even more time fixing a broken system later. You would not let some random stranger feed your baby; do not execute commands without first understanding what they do..."

This is the most important advice.

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds."Albert Einstein"All wrong-doing arises because of mind. If mind is transformed can wrong-doing remain?"Buddha