I hope you folks supporting McCain and Palin understand that she wants Creationism taught as an alternative to Evolution. Now it just may be some of you believe the earth is only10,000 yrs old, but I'd sure hate to see that inflicted on the children of this country. I live in an area that is rife with Christian fundamentalists, trust me, it's not pretty. These folks have a religious theme park where dinosaurs and men walk the earth at the same time. That's not quite the way I learned it at MC. Wonder who was right, the Brothers or these whack jobs??

__________________“When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.” Sinclair Lewis

Since I rarely understand what Granny is talking about, I'll thank him for his support. If you believe that teaching Creationism side by side Evolution in a science class makes sense, I guess our votes will cancel each others out.

__________________“When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.” Sinclair Lewis

At the moment I am not supporting anyone ....... all statements are made as part of my ongoing quest to determine whom I shall vote for . at the moment I am still hoping that a third lever marked " non of the above" is in my election booth !

__________________If I had known I was going to live this long I would have taken better care of myself ! Mick #7

"We must have more troops over there. And we have to have a big enough surge to get Baghdad under control and then Anbar province under control." John McCain 12 Dec 06I am not persuaded that 20,000 additional troops in Iraq is (at MC they taught me that 'are' should be used there. I guess at Harvard speaks an different their own language) going to solve the sectarian violence there. In fact, I think it will do the reverse." Barack Obama 10 Jan 2007For those who missed the extensive MSM coverage, responsibility for Anbar province had been turned over completely to the Iraqis 1 Sep 08

Originally Posted by willbillbedamned "Mission accomplished" George Bush, 5/01/2003.

I didn't realize he was running again.Should we revisit a few of the statement on Iraq from the Clintons, Gore, Kerry, Kennedy, Albright, and a few other non-candidates? Maybe even Biden's comments? He is running isn't he?

So, which one of these predictions from John McCain turned out to be true?

“But I believe, Katie, that the Iraqi people will greet us as liberators.” [NBC, 3/20/03]

“It’s clear that the end is very much in sight.” [ABC, 4/9/03]

“There’s not a history of clashes that are violent between Sunnis and Shiahs. So I think they can probably get along.” [MSNBC, 4/23/03]

“This is a mission accomplished. They know how much influence Saddam Hussein had on the Iraqi people, how much more difficult it made to get their cooperation.” [This Week, ABC, 12/14/03]

“I’m confident we’re on the right course.” [ABC News, 3/7/04]

“I think the initial phases of it were so spectacularly successful that it took us all by surprise.” [CBS, 10/31/04]

“I do think that progress is being made in a lot of Iraq. Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course. If I thought we weren’t making progress, I’d be despondent.” [The Hill, 12/8/05] __________________Tony

So, which one of these predictions from John McCain turned out to be true?

Well, we were initially greeted as liberators. That’s one for Mac.

The end, it is now clear, wasn’t in sight in ’03. So it’s one and one.

And it now appears that, absent Iran’s interference, the Sunnis and Shiahs are able to get along. McCain goes two and one.

Since the original mission, as set by President Clinton, was the removal of Saddam, that mission was achieved. What’s that now, three and one?

We are and have been on the right course – no attacks at home in seven years next week, God willing. No attacks against US interest anywhere but in Iraq in the last two or three years. (Compare that with the eight years before 9/11.) That’s a big one in the win column – four and one

It’s obvious that the initial phases were so spectacularly successful that the entire world was taken by surprise. I think the DOD had 15,000 body bags ready. I know they were surprised and very happily so.

But as that was only an accurate statement and not a prediction, I don’t think we should give Mac the credit here Still holding at four and one.

By Dec ’05 a lot of progress had been made. I believe by then 80% of the country was considered secure and peaceful. But as the Surge wasn’t launched until early ’07, McCain estimate of a fair amount of progress by the end of ’06 may have been about 6-9 months premature. Lets make it four, one and one

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