I just ordered a Smith and Wesson Shield 2.0. I had the option for a thumb safety, or no safety.
Normally on a striker fire that you carry, I would say no safety. But I ordered this one with a safety because Iím assuming that I will be taking it off every time I get into the car to drive.
I was thinking about buying one of those car magnets that you mount on the lower dash. I donít like the thought of it sitting out in the open next my leg with nothing but the trigger as the safety.

I mounted an extra holster to the inside of my console right beside me. I like it because if I need to leave it in the truck for any reason, I can lock the console. Plus, its out of the way and cannot be seen from outside of the vehicle.

I carry a Ruger LC9 with a mechanical safety, but mainly because I have kids around the house. Even though I keep it locked in the safe when IM not carrying, I like the extra piece of mind. I do carry a S&W double stacked when IM at the lease, and it does not have a safety. Had to leave it on the RTV last time because I was sweating all over it, and it made me nervous with the kids there. Dont know if that helps any, but thats why I prefer a mechanical safety.

I keep a Glock 23 in my door side compartment in a shoulder holster with two extra mags. I have the magnet system mounted to the right of my right knee so if a situation presents itself it will be moved from the door to the magnet for quick access. As far as safety's go I don't care for them on any "hamerless" pistol or revolver.

This always reminds me of a robbery video I saw once where a pawn shop owner and a criminal pull their guns on each other at the same time. The criminal had a revolver and the store owner had what looks like a Bersa pistol. The store owner in the heat of the moment doesnít disengage the safety and the criminal shoots him. Luckily the guy lived but itís just like the empty chamber debate if you think your going to have the time to rack the slide or click off the safety in the heat of the moment it probably wonít end well . Especially since the criminal is prepared for what he is about to do and the victim is caught off guard majority of the time.

I think the 1911/hipower are the only handguns to get the manual safety right. everything else no. Keep it holstered in a good holster, don't fiddle around with it and you'll be fine. Gun is only going to fire if something pulls the trigger.

This always reminds me of a robbery video I saw once where a pawn shop owner and a criminal pull their guns on each other at the same time. The criminal had a revolver and the store owner had what looks like a Bersa pistol. The store owner in the heat of the moment doesnít disengage the safety and the criminal shoots him. Luckily the guy lived but itís just like the empty chamber debate if you think your going to have the time to rack the slide or click off the safety in the heat of the moment it probably wonít end well . Especially since the criminal is prepared for what he is about to do and the victim is caught off guard majority of the time.

I read a first hand account a few years back from a lawyer who was hanging out at his practice with his partners after hours. A guy walks up, pulls a gun and tells them to all get on the ground in an attempted robbery. The guy telling the story was carrying a 1911 in some form or another. He's on the ground watching the robber who has his back turned to him and decides to pull his gun. The bad guy actually heard the safety click, spun around and shot him.

He obviously survived and was able to get some rounds into the bad guy who was subsequently arrested, but I believe he said he would never carry a gun with a safety again. Obviously that is a freak incident and I don't think would ever be a factor in any other incident, but a crazy story none the less.

I read a first hand account a few years back from a lawyer who was hanging out at his practice with his partners after hours. A guy walks up, pulls a gun and tells them to all get on the ground in an attempted robbery. The guy telling the story was carrying a 1911 in some form or another. He's on the ground watching the robber who has his back turned to him and decides to pull his gun. The bad guy actually heard the safety click, spun around and shot him.

He obviously survived and was able to get some rounds into the bad guy who was subsequently arrested, but I believe he said he would never carry a gun with a safety again. Obviously that is a freak incident and I don't think would ever be a factor in any other incident, but a crazy story none the less.

That's interesting. Never considered the sound might potentially be an issue.

I read a first hand account a few years back from a lawyer who was hanging out at his practice with his partners after hours. A guy walks up, pulls a gun and tells them to all get on the ground in an attempted robbery. The guy telling the story was carrying a 1911 in some form or another. He's on the ground watching the robber who has his back turned to him and decides to pull his gun. The bad guy actually heard the safety click, spun around and shot him.

He obviously survived and was able to get some rounds into the bad guy who was subsequently arrested, but I believe he said he would never carry a gun with a safety again. Obviously that is a freak incident and I don't think would ever be a factor in any other incident, but a crazy story none the less.

That is about as believable as the M1 ďclangĒ getting soldiers shot. Safeties arenít that loud, and if you pull a gun, be ready to use it.

In my opinion I do not think it is needed. It is an extra process or step you may forget in a high stress situation may the need arise for you to draw your gun. If you plan to train and get proficient with drawing and clicking off the safety in one motion then it's acceptable but for me that just ads another step to a possible high stress situation. That said, also don't carry a gun with a 2lb trigger.

Both of my carry guns have a hammer and a safety. I don't shoot striker guns well, mainly due to being used to a better trigger. If the difference in me getting shot is the millisecond it takes to click the button, I've already lost. That said, I've found a lot of the "modern" guns to have tiny, hard to manipulate safeties, which I'll agree are dangerous.

I just ordered a Smith and Wesson Shield 2.0. I had the option for a thumb safety, or no safety.
Normally on a striker fire that you carry, I would say no safety. But I ordered this one with a safety because Iím assuming that I will be taking it off every time I get into the car to drive.
I was thinking about buying one of those car magnets that you mount on the lower dash. I donít like the thought of it sitting out in the open next my leg with nothing but the trigger as the safety.

Thoughts or opinions?

Safety or not is your preference, but how is "sitting out in the open next to my leg" any different than inside your waistband or out.......pointing straight down your leg.

I have same gun in performance center. I leave the safety off. With long trigger pull I dont think you need the safety for normal carry.

You need to try the new 2.0 model that came out.
It had the shortest and smoothest trigger pull, compared to standard Shield, Glock 26, Glock 43, and Springfield XDS.
Much improved over the standard Shield.

So ? Your assumption is that since itís out of the holster itís more apt to ďgo offĒ. I have been fooling with guns for 60 years now and the only discharges Iíve encountered were caused by human error, holstered or not. I imagine the act of holstering your handgun is as close to unsafe as you want to get. Anything gets in that trigger quard (think shirt tail) could make it discharge. Not trying to argue, but itís no less safe next to your leg on a magnet unless somebody gets it or you wreck. I carry on my body in or out of my truck for that very reason.

I like xd/xds types, or a long dao like on the older lc9/lcp guns. I do feel that some of the newer striker guns have too good of a trigger for a carry gun without a safety, but I don't carry in an office and my guns tend to be handled fairly roughly so YMMV. That said, I don't like the tiny safeties on the shields though and would opt for a non safety gun, if i was getting a shield. Good luck

They make a kydex trigger shield. it just snaps around the trigger guard.

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Originally Posted by Capp35

I just ordered a Smith and Wesson Shield 2.0. I had the option for a thumb safety, or no safety.
Normally on a striker fire that you carry, I would say no safety. But I ordered this one with a safety because Iím assuming that I will be taking it off every time I get into the car to drive.
I was thinking about buying one of those car magnets that you mount on the lower dash. I donít like the thought of it sitting out in the open next my leg with nothing but the trigger as the safety.

Point is mute now to me, it shipped this afternoon......
Without a safety.

I still think it is a good debate though.

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I've never heard of anyone getting shot because they had to move their thumb and disengage the safety. Plenty of people have been in shootouts with single action revolvers or double action which I'm sure takes the same amount of effort to cock a hammer or pull that heavy trigger back so the first round will go off. If you have muscle memory built into how you plan on handling a situation I really think you're splitting hairs with the argument that safeties are unsafe for a carry gun.

I've never heard of anyone getting shot because they had to move their thumb and disengage the safety. Plenty of people have been in shootouts with single action revolvers or double action which I'm sure takes the same amount of effort to cock a hammer or pull that heavy trigger back so the first round will go off. If you have muscle memory built into how you plan on handling a situation I really think you're splitting hairs with the argument that safeties are unsafe for a carry gun.

Well stated and I was in your camp for decades but after many training classes I prefer my Glocks over my 1911s for EDC. I want to go to trigger as fast as possible no matter my primary grip position. No safeties on my carry guns, period.

It's personal preference. However, if you are concerned that you will not disengage the safety under stress, then you aren't practicing enough. Disengaging a thumb safety as you draw should be automatic and add no time to the presentation of the weapon. Many LEOs carry weapons with thumb safeties and it does not slow their presentation at all.