We talk about the ongoing legacy of jingoism since September 11, 2001, with Marjorie Cohn, professor emerita at Thomas Jefferson School of Law, and author of, most recently, Drones and Targeted Killing: Legal, Moral and Geopolitical Issues. Also: we’ll talk about the media claim that corporations are lining up to oppose Trumps's deregulation. We talk about the real deal with Amit Narang, regulatory policy advocate at Public Citizen.