What could happen: Right wingers rally around the alleged victims and claim it proves they really are "fair and balanced" as well as friendly to women, which could even lend some credibility to their initial support of Zimmerman.

What WILL happen: Double-down on the derp. Blame the media. Argue semantics. Attack the motives and character of the alleged victims. Make Zimmerman the victim. Claim a pattern of harassment when it suits and claim no relation from one incident to the next when that suits. And if all else fails, fall back on "no true responsible gun owner" defense.

steamingpile:Headso: DROxINxTHExWIND: This is what you all defended. Smh.

Check out the thread, it's either the wife's fault because she is trying to get all the money in a divorce or it is society's fault because Zimmerman had a hard time these past couple years with the trial and all.

Listen to the 911 call, it shows the drama queen the wife really is, never thought zimmerman was a stand up guy and was a little spooky but his wife is 100 times worse, just out for her own attention and using him to get it.

You should argue with the people who think he did it but it was society and the media's fault for pushing him over the edge, that would be entertaining.

PunGent:key point for me will be third-party witness testimony, if any.

FTFA:"He punched my dad in the nose my dad has a mark on the nose. I saw his glasses were on the floor," Shellie Zimmerman said in the call. He then accosted my father then took my iPad out of my hands. He then smashed it and cut it with a pocketknife, and there is a Lake Mary city worker across the street that I believe saw all of it."

FTA: Police say George Zimmerman is now accusing Shellie Zimmerman of being the aggressor wearing the hoodie and having the Skittles and iced tea in the conflict and the investigation is ongoing.

Fixed that for them.

I wonder how long until Zimmerman's dickish attitude writes a check he can't cash, or does he only accost those who are obviously unarmed and unprepared to deal with his abusive behavior. I bet that within a year, someone 'stands his ground' against Zimmerman. The insane way the Florida law works, it's pretty much okay to shoot him on sight.

birdmanesq:cameroncrazy1984: Fark It: You're right, they need to be changed to allow conjecture, hyperbole, and speculation to be admissible and trump physical evidence

You're right, there was no physical evidence that Trayvon started the fight.

It seems to be very hard for folks to understand that under any rational regime of self defense they guy who pursued and confronted the other guy would be the aggressor. I mean, it's not that hard.

/And, for the record, on the off chance this goes green my previous two comments were dripping with sarcasm.

I get the sarcasm. I also found it amazing how many of my right wing friends who have said on many an occasion that they "don't take shiat off of anyone" would have fled from the guy following them, went home, and minded their own business if they were Trayvon Martin in that situation.

Hopefully like with OJ Simpson, Karma will get George Zimmerman. Bad people have a habit of doing stuff which gives Karma the opening.

Bf+:Carth: Were there any witnesses?PunGent: key point for me will be third-party witness testimony, if any.

FTFA:"He punched my dad in the nose my dad has a mark on the nose. I saw his glasses were on the floor," Shellie Zimmerman said in the call. He then accosted my father then took my iPad out of my hands. He then smashed it and cut it with a pocketknife, and there is a Lake Mary city worker across the street that I believe saw all of it."

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Which is why neither of them are pressing charges? I should have said "independent witnesses" though so your technically right...

Bf+:Carth: Were there any witnesses?PunGent: key point for me will be third-party witness testimony, if any.

FTFA:"He punched my dad in the nose my dad has a mark on the nose. I saw his glasses were on the floor," Shellie Zimmerman said in the call. He then accosted my father then took my iPad out of my hands. He then smashed it and cut it with a pocketknife, and there is a Lake Mary city worker across the street that I believe saw all of it."

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It says a lot that (if those things DID occur) the police didn't want to make an arrest, and she doesn't want to press charges. It would seem that the police would have definitely arrested Zimmerman in if there's evidence he punched an old man, smashed her property, and then threatened her with a handgun.

steamingpile:naughtyrev: Wow. Someone went and derped hard in the comments of this story.

Its subby, questioned does not equal arrest but just the same as the other side wanted OJ the left is frothing in its attempt to get him, I think this lady was a biatch the whole time and out for her own deals.

I was referring specifically to the fact that some crazy was bringing up Benghazi in the comments to a Zimmerman story.

everyone seems to be overlooking the important question here and that is... did the crime rate go up or down in Zimmerman's neighborhood after Martin got plugged? Because I'd be highly amused if all those unsolved break-ins coincidentally stopped.

Carth:Bf+: Carth: Were there any witnesses?PunGent: key point for me will be third-party witness testimony, if any.

FTFA:"He punched my dad in the nose my dad has a mark on the nose. I saw his glasses were on the floor," Shellie Zimmerman said in the call. He then accosted my father then took my iPad out of my hands. He then smashed it and cut it with a pocketknife, and there is a Lake Mary city worker across the street that I believe saw all of it."

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Which is why neither of them are pressing charges? I should have said "independent witnesses" though so your technically right...

/best kind of right.

Yeah-- I realized as soon as I posted... Wait. Witnesses, like, in court?... hmm

naughtyrev:steamingpile: naughtyrev: Wow. Someone went and derped hard in the comments of this story.

Its subby, questioned does not equal arrest but just the same as the other side wanted OJ the left is frothing in its attempt to get him, I think this lady was a biatch the whole time and out for her own deals.

I was referring specifically to the fact that some crazy was bringing up Benghazi in the comments to a Zimmerman story.

stonelotus:everyone seems to be overlooking the important question here and that is... did the crime rate go up or down in Zimmerman's neighborhood after Martin got plugged? Because I'd be highly amused if all those unsolved break-ins coincidentally stopped.

Really? you'd be surprised if break-ins stopped after news cameras and reporters started hanging out in a neighborhood 24 hours a day?

Carth:stonelotus: everyone seems to be overlooking the important question here and that is... did the crime rate go up or down in Zimmerman's neighborhood after Martin got plugged? Because I'd be highly amused if all those unsolved break-ins coincidentally stopped.

Really? you'd be surprised if break-ins stopped after news cameras and reporters started hanging out in a neighborhood 24 hours a day?

stonelotus:everyone seems to be overlooking the important question here and that is... did the crime rate go up or down in Zimmerman's neighborhood after Martin got plugged? Because I'd be highly amused if all those unsolved break-ins coincidentally stopped.

stonelotus:everyone seems to be overlooking the important question here and that is... did the crime rate go up or down in Zimmerman's neighborhood after Martin got plugged? Because I'd be highly amused if all those unsolved break-ins coincidentally stopped.

Yeah. George was probably breaking into houses and using his community watch thing as a cover, then saw Trayvon Martin as the perfect scapegoat since dead men tell no tales. Or in this case dead tennagers.

ThatDarkFellow:naughtyrev: steamingpile: naughtyrev: Wow. Someone went and derped hard in the comments of this story.

Its subby, questioned does not equal arrest but just the same as the other side wanted OJ the left is frothing in its attempt to get him, I think this lady was a biatch the whole time and out for her own deals.

I was referring specifically to the fact that some crazy was bringing up Benghazi in the comments to a Zimmerman story.

birdmanesq:stonelotus: everyone seems to be overlooking the important question here and that is... did the crime rate go up or down in Zimmerman's neighborhood after Martin got plugged? Because I'd be highly amused if all those unsolved break-ins coincidentally stopped.

Because black people, am I right?

Zimmerman's former neighborhood didn't have a rash of break-ins by elderly Chinese women, that's for sure.

Thunderpipes:She is divorcing him, and can easily get more money if she makes crap up. Public will largely believe it. Zimmerman stands to make many millions in lawsuits. She wants money, period.

Get more money? Florida is a no fault state, so when they get divorced everything gets split 50/50 no matter what. And since he isn't working, I doubt she will get any alimony, so your theory of her making stuff up falls apart.

Phinn:birdmanesq: stonelotus: everyone seems to be overlooking the important question here and that is... did the crime rate go up or down in Zimmerman's neighborhood after Martin got plugged? Because I'd be highly amused if all those unsolved break-ins coincidentally stopped.

Because black people, am I right?

Zimmerman's former neighborhood didn't have a rash of break-ins by elderly Chinese women, that's for sure.