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12:10 #navit: < MatthiasM> hi everybody :)
12:10 #navit: Hi
12:17 #navit: < woglinde> hi
12:17 #navit: < woglinde> fröhlichen nikolaus
12:17 #navit: < MatthiasM> oh germans :)
12:18 #navit: < MatthiasM> thanks man! But even if I was a good boy and cleaned the wiki, my boots keep empty today *cry* ;)
12:19 #navit: < MatthiasM> BTW Here something funny for this very special day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXy4o-E3_rY
12:49 #navit: < MatthiasM> Knows anybody a tool, that would visualize the module dependencies of navits C code? Would be nice to get an overview
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13:38 #navit: < Number6> Where's karossa these days?
13:43 #navit: < MatthiasM> Who is korossa?
13:45 #navit: < Number6> A man with a magic snake
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13:52 #navit: < MatthiasM> okkkkk oO ?
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15:12 #navit: < MatthiasM> do you think it will be ok, if I exchange the current [[Configuring]] page with the new one (while keeping the old?)
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18:28 #navit: < MatthiasM> Do you think that this very first config tutorial is to short? http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Basic_configuration
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18:42 #navit: < xenos1984> hi MatthiasM1 ;)
18:43 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... looks a bit hard to understand for beginners... too many technical terms
18:43 #navit: < MatthiasM1> good evenigng xenos1984
18:43 #navit: < xenos1984> for example:
18:43 #navit: < xenos1984> "Now please connect your GPS. For bluetooth receivers, you might need to pair it, which can be done using your desktop bluetooth manager, or via console."
18:43 #navit: < MatthiasM1> I see
18:44 #navit: < xenos1984> someone who doesn't know what pairing is and how bluetooth works does not gain information from this
18:44 #navit: < MatthiasM1> I tried to avoid that I have to explain every detail on bluetooth for every desktop and distribution :/
18:44 #navit: < MatthiasM1> Would you please give it a try to add details?
18:44 #navit: < xenos1984> sure :)
18:44 #navit: * MatthiasM1 is looking for his pizza
18:45 #navit: * xenos1984 is getting hungry...
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18:46 #navit: < MatthiasM1> with extra cheese! yummy
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19:00 #navit: < MatthiasM1> does anybody would like to start (and maintain) an offical Vimeo/Youtube account for Navit project?
19:03 #navit: < xenos1984> i made some changes to the "preparations" section
19:03 #navit: < MatthiasM1> thank you :)
19:03 #navit: < xenos1984> you're welcome ;)
19:04 #navit: < xenos1984> i think the "configuring" part might become a lot easier if navit will be able to write config options to a file...
19:07 #navit: < MatthiasM1> yes and determining the basic options (start position, gps discovery, ... ) Sure this will come :)
19:08 #navit: < xenos1984> i think so ;)
19:50 #navit: < MatthiasM1> can anybody please tell me what kind of design Mineque worked on?
19:51 #navit: < HazardousWaster> Hi everyone... I think I already know the answer, but I want to make certain - is there any scope at all in Navit for multiple 'views'? I have access to a pair of touchscreen monitors, and I would love to be able to have a 3d view and an overhead view, one on each, or for the 3d view to be undisturbed while a passenger was setting up a new route or changing the music
19:53 #navit: < tryagain> hm... i'm afraid we currently can't suggest anything besides running two instances of navit.
19:54 #navit: < tryagain> is that the answer you know?
19:54 #navit: < MatthiasM1> only idea is to maximize an usual Navit window, that it fits in both screens and to add an custom OSD
19:54 #navit: < MatthiasM1> but no, no sperated views possible AFAIK
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20:06 #navit: < tryagain> btw you could share gps data to have bith instances run in sync. Also some data could be shared using dbus interface by periodically calling dbus-send as external command.
20:08 #navit: < usul1> and provide different configs using command line
20:11 #navit: < tryagain> of course
20:11 #navit: < tryagain> As an example, you could monitor with osd cmd_interface if destination is changed and run dbus-send to change it on the other instance
20:12 #navit: < tryagain> hm but i'm unsure if we can tell dbus which instance to use
20:12 #navit: < tryagain> *which instance of navit
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20:25 #navit: < HazardousWaster> tryagain: sorry i got distracted, but that's better than my guess answer of "no"
20:25 #navit: < HazardousWaster> dbus hacking sounds like a very good idea though
20:27 #navit: < usul1> would be great to see if you get this working :)
20:28 #navit: < HazardousWaster> yeah well when i get it working i'm going to come back and say "well i've got the top screen for me to drive on, and the bottom screen is used by the front passenger fiddling with the music, so now I want the guy in the back to set up the route on his android tablet"
20:28 #navit: < HazardousWaster> i'm difficult like that
20:29 #navit: < tryagain> :)
20:29 #navit: < woglinde> hm sorry whats the idea?
20:29 #navit: < usul1> BTW what is your scenario HazardousWaster ?
20:30 #navit: < usul1> @ woglinde driving Navit with multiple views on 2 screens
20:30 #navit: < HazardousWaster> highway view on top screen
20:31 #navit: < HazardousWaster> overhead map on bottom screen
20:31 #navit: < HazardousWaster> use either to set destination
20:31 #navit: < usul1> please a bit more general. Is it a carPC with more than one display?
20:32 #navit: < HazardousWaster> yes, sorry, it's a carpc with two displays
20:32 #navit: < usul1> never saw something :) crazy :D
20:33 #navit: < HazardousWaster> it's quite diy
20:33 #navit: < usul1> if you like, you can write us a "user story" of your specific scenario
20:33 #navit: < usul1> would allow the team to consider such configurations in future ;)
20:33 #navit: < usul1> Just a example: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:!i!/NAVIT2/User_story_install
20:34 #navit: < woglinde> HazardousWaster what is your operating system?
20:34 #navit: < HazardousWaster> sorry brb phone
20:34 #navit: < usul1> np
20:34 #navit: < usul1> @all Would be nice, if you could check, if I include all the details about you: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Team
20:35 #navit: < usul1> Personally I would preffer to enter such infos at the userpages itself
20:36 #navit: < HazardousWaster> woglinde: ubuntu right now, but i'm investigating tizen ivi. it originally ran meego ivi 1.2 but ubuntu became easier for playing around with stuff.
20:36 #navit: < usul1> @ xenos1984 should I add you for TomTom port?
20:37 #navit: < HazardousWaster> and usul1 if i get this working, i will definitely be up for excitably writing about it
20:37 #navit: < xenos1984> usul1: i think i can do that ;)
20:37 #navit: < usul1> then it's up to you ;)
20:37 #navit: < woglinde> HazardousWaster hm whats your graphic stack?
20:38 #navit: < HazardousWaster> gtk
20:38 #navit: < woglinde> no I meant hw
20:38 #navit: < HazardousWaster> oh
20:38 #navit: < HazardousWaster> http://www.mitxpc.com/proddetail.asp?prod=CPCD525VOOM2
20:39 #navit: < usul1> cool :) but for what reason you need 1.8GHz ?
20:39 #navit: < HazardousWaster> none particularly, it was the best set of hardware available for my budget at the time of purchase :)
20:39 #navit: < usul1> hehe ;)
20:40 #navit: < HazardousWaster> i guess the most potential stress is two instances of navit whilst streaming an hd movie to a tablet
20:40 #navit: < HazardousWaster> i take it i'm quite niche nowadays in having a carpc instead of a smartphone?
20:42 #navit: < woglinde> hm no description what nm10 chipset has for graphics
20:42 #navit: < usul1> I have an OpenPandora instead of smartphone ;)
20:43 #navit: < woglinde> I wonder at all there are graphic drivers for linux for it
20:43 #navit: < HazardousWaster> woglinde, it has a gma950 i think
20:44 #navit: < HazardousWaster> although, and i have no idea why i'm googling for ages, lspci reveals nvidia gt218
20:45 #navit: < HazardousWaster> and then googling 'gt218 linux' reveals pages i visited a year ago in chrome
20:45 #navit: < woglinde> hm okay
20:46 #navit: < usul1> does it matter, if you use an usual graphics backend ? AFAIK OpenGL is not that up to date?
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20:59 #navit: < usul1> Is there any chance to get the full comments by our SVN commits? The navit-commit mailinglist doesn't work that way :/
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21:24 #navit: < usul1> ok friends time to leave
21:24 #navit: < usul1> BTW will be offline next days, so don't worry ;)
21:24 #navit: < usul1> cya
21:25 #navit: < xenos1984> cu, usul1
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