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Here is one question i want everyones opinuion on.. I picked up some little cleos. I noticed they did not come with split rings at the top of the spoons. Now i have heard some people add a split ring to the tops of them then attach a barrel/crane swivel then tie direct to that.. However others ive heard use a simple snap swivel with no split ring to the spoon.
What method should you go for with the cleo?

painting spoon blanks?
hey everyone, just curious on if i can use spray paint or use paint in the can to paint my cheap nickle plated casting spoon blanks? i got almost 300 of them!. Ive never done this before, But im under the assumption all i need to do is first wipe them with some laquer thinner and a rag to clean them, then paint them with white primer first so the paint can stick, then im not sure if you have to let the primer dry first BEFORE you paint on your colors/patterns of choice? OR do you paint on your colors and patterns of choice while primer is still wet? then lastly once your color/patterns is dry on the spoon you complete it with a few layers of clear coat to seal it, correct?
now i cant afford no air brushing crap, or NO powder paints. im on a budget and will only have spray paint/paint in cans. is acrylic latex paint ok? i found a big jug of acrylic latex glow paint. Im sure if i follow the above steps and clear coat it after the latex paint wont come off when casting?
or should i buy all alkyd paints?

Not sure if this pic worked. Please excuse if my spoons look bad? This is my first time powder painting. I made a sapphire blue I made a two tone made a flame red ( looks lighter in pic due to glare but in reality its a nice fluorescent color!) And a watermelon flake.

what heat gun for lead weights/spoons?
hey I'm new to powder painting, but I just got several jars of pro-tec powder paint, just curious is there a specific heat gun I need to buy that will heat the lead weights/nickel spoon blanks for powder painting with the pro-tec or can I just buy any heat gun?

Thanks. I ended up buying a Wagner ht1000 heat gun. I got about ten diff colors of pro tec. I got about 100 lead lure bodies 1/16 oz and 1/8 oz. Looking forward to powder painting. Ya I got a toaster oven too for curing. Was on CSI paint website it lists pro tecs colors and bake times. Most people have suggested a lower temp for longer to cure to prevent dripping. (300 for 30) but I could always follow the old tried and true 350 for 20 like pro tec recommends.

So with the unpainted lead weights and casting spoons, what temperature should I set the toaster oven too to heat them up? And what temperature would I set the oven to to cure once painted?
So essentially I set the oven to that temperature. Hang the spoon blanks and the lead weights in there. Bake them for the desired time. Take them out as fast as I can dip them in the powder, shake off excess then place back in oven to cure?

Ya I was gonna buy a heat gun so I could powder paint. As that way I don't need primer lol. Plus I heard if u powder paint spoons its so durable it won't chip off.
So ur saying a spoon the size and shape of a 1/3 oz little Cleo you could do maybe ten on a 2 oz jar? I was trying to picture a jar that small and I thought to myself good god 2 oz is like a pinch of salt lol...I know its probably a lot more lol I'm just a rookie lol. I can get powder paint from a supplier in Canada here.
If I want to do spoons solid color say blaze orange or hot pink etc do I still need to powder paint them white first (they are your every day nickel blanks from lurepartsonline) or can I just powder paint them my color instantly?
I also heard if I buy the glow powder paints its best to powder paint them white first let dry and cure thennn powder paint them glow color
I'm a rookie at this lol but seems easy cuz I watched YouTube bid how to do that from tjstackle

I don't know how to pm in this site lol. I'm interested tho. I always thought powder paint wasn't practical for spoons as a small 1 oz jar would paint what...one spoon ? Lol. I have over 100 spoons roughly the size shape and length of a 1/3 oz little Cleo. I would need over 100 of the 1oz jars of powder paint to paint my 100 spoons? That's almost 500$ or more to paint only 100 spoons. That's why I thought of spray paint as a cheap alternative? I'm so new to spoon painting hopefully I'm wrong and hopefully a standard 1oz jar would paint more then one spoon lol
I'm def interested in your offer but I live in Canada and I was told shipping paints over border was prohibited (gotta love lame Canada's CBSA being so paranoid over everything)

Due to the government choking out lake Huron with hundreds of thousands of Lakers a year stocked into lake Huron and the government wiping out the remaining Chinook by doing so.. My question is.. Is it possible to catch a lake trout off a pier in lake Huron? I mean I know there closed sept 30th and I heard they arrive later in the year I have a piss load of ko wobblers and Cleo's I wanna put to use and am hoping its possible to catch a laker from a pier. I would hope so due to the millions in the lake one would think its simple lol.
Any idea if you can get some off the piers on lake Huron. Approximately what time of the year? And I'm sure ko wobblers and Cleo's wud be deadly. Pretty sure if the Lakers are there so are steelhead and browns so one would not be speficallt targeting them cuz there closed lol. Just want to catch one so bad. Haven't caught one since 1997. Just want to see one.

Alot of my freinds are showing me pictures of multiple steelhead they are getting off the piers now. Sometimes 2 in half hour. I ask them what they are using, they say casting spoons. Moonshines 3/4 oz to be exact. Thats all fine and well. i own 20 plus moonshine spoons but for some reason i cant get a fish to hit them for the life of me! i stand on the piers chuck them out wait for them to hit bottom then i simply retreive in. I tried reeling SLOW till i got bottom then i tried speeding up retrieve till i thought it was reeling to fast for the fish? tried 8 hours chucking and chucking nothing!!!!!!!!!!. Am i doing something wrong? anyone with experience on how to fish moonshine casting spoons please help me!!!! need easy to understand advice.
Heres what i tried... bought a moonshine 3/4 oz as is in package. shaped like a KO. i added a number 7 simple black snap swivel to it to minimize line twist. I left the treble on it came with. Casted it out at various locations off a peir. Casted straight across the peir where the fish enter casted off to each end of piers lake side etc, in all instances id wait till my line went slack indicating im on bottom then i simply reeled in steady. did that for 8 hours straight NOTHING! is that the wrong way to fish the moonshine 3/4oz? should i be twitching my rod tip every few secs during the retreive? should i not let the spoon hit bottom before i reel in? how do i fish these dam spoons? Im new to harbour/pier fishing moonshine spoons. Please help me out

Thanks a lot!! Gonna try this. Want to get a fall steelhead. I heard the 2/3 oz Cleo work good off piers for bows and browns. Yet I saw a 2/3 oz Cleo (the size down from the monstrous 3/4oz size) and the 2/3 oz looked huge. Long and wide. Not sure how a bow can hit one considering steelhead got small mouths

Hi, i live along lake huron. I wouldnt say im new to fishing lol i catch tons of fish. But when it comes time to catching steelhead and salmon (coho and chinnys) off a peir i find myself a newbie. Please note i do not float fish ever. Dont know how, cant master slip floats cant afford float rods. Anyways i recently was given advice from a freind to use spoons. I recently saw moonshine spoons, They have 2 sizes..the short but fat 3/4oz ers and the longer but skinny 5/8 oz ers. Our fall salmon along lake huron barely avg 12 lbs if were lucky. Ive tried cleos off the peir for yrs, no luck on cleos! id chuck cleos for hours and hours on end wing out reel in. nothing!. i heard moonshines actually catch fish... but looking at the moonshine casting spoons 3/4oz the short but fat ones i dont think a 10lb salmon or even a steelhead could fit it in its mouth? same with the 5/8 oz casting spoon by moonshine, its longer but skinnier then the 3/4 size...but again looks to long for a salmon or steelhead to fit in there mouth?
please give me some advice on moonshine casting spoons what sizes actually work (the short but fat one or the longer but skinnier 5/8)
do i just wing these spoons out and retrieve soon as they hit the water or should i let them hit bottom, evident by my line dropping before retrieve? and during retreive do i simply reel in or do i reel then twitch my rod tip then reel etc.
do steelhead and other trout (lakers browns) hit moonshine casting spoons too? if so what ones?
should i use a good old fashioned swivel with the spoon, black or gold swivel? or should i use "snaps" with the spoon instead of a normal swivel?
sorry for all the dumb questions lol. its just ive always line ran my salmon but thats not fun to me, i wanna feel the thrill of a salmon or steelhead or trout smash it reeling in.

holy shit! ya id never venture out there lol. i cant swim and ya i got shitty balance on narrow platforms id go in lol. i got a piss ton of those c3 #33s (and other colors) from lurepartsonline you told me about. cant wait for the fish to come in so i can use em lol. i made the mistake of ordering the WRONG split rings, ordered the cheap ass 4101s 25pk stainless steel. (non heavy duty) wrong size lol #4s lol. each time i put one on my spoons theres a gap in the split ring lmao. So i upsized to size 6 and 7 split rings and ordered the 2X heavys LOL also used #2 and #1 siwashes on em. u live and learn lol

I like to use invis x. They come in filler spools. Usually I use 4lb. I've landed salmon up river on 4lb test too (drag set of course not to tight lol) however if I'm gonna be chucking 3/4 oz spoons maybe I shud up it to 8lb test and being its still floro it'll be still invisible for me

I hope this worked I googled an image of our harbour entrance I was talking about taken from in the inner harbour. Those r the massive boulders ud have to walk out on to get to the light thing to cast into Huron. Probably very dangerous when rocks there r wet lol or from waves crashing over but calm days if u don't slip thru the rocks I'm sure wud be dynamite off there in fall. Deep as hell in front of those rocks. When salmon r in I stand in that orange section and cast over the wall towards Huron up the entrance lol or cast into the inner harbour both standing on that platform where orange is lol I've always wanted to get right on Huron at the lighted thing but the huge boulders there walking on them just to get to lakes edge scares me lol big gaps between some just to get to light thing. Truly dangerous

Where I live here on lake Huron in my town at our harbour entrance we have these massive boulders you can walk out on to the lake shore. Its deep as hell right in front of ya casting off the boulders. I imagine each fall the Lakers along with bows will be cruising the boulders. Just problem is getting out to the water front off the boulders as there's big gaps in between the boulders lol feel like ur risking ur life getting out to them lol but I'm sure worth it lol.

Ya I was reading online spoons for steelhead a lot of anglers reccomend only three colors of casting spoons for steels and that's gold copper and silver. They say u should only carry those colors they swear by. So what you guys r saying about silver makes sense. Also read somewhere silver used to be hot on the great lakes when water was always gin clear but now years later with salmon dying out and zebra and quagga mussels filtering out the alewives food the plankton the water isnt as clear as before and therefore some reccomend gold or copper now a days too

Thanks guys for the tips. I've been fishing for years but i was more of a concessions up the tribs no mans land kinda fisherman lol never had much luck off peirs and always had the black moldy salmon time they were up where I fished near beaver ponds lol. But this year I want to have access to fresh fish lol chromed steels and lakers so I was curious as to what to use this fall I hope to now land fish off a pier lol been since 1997 when I was 14 since I landed a laker lmao