According to director/producer Noam Shalev and researcher Pablo Weschler, Adolf Hitler lived out his last days in an luxurious Argentinian hotel, instead of committing suicide in a Berlin bunker as previously thought. Their new documentary, Hitler in Argentina, attempts to make their case and is set to be released next year.

Shalev doesnt claim to be 100 percent certain about his theory. We will never know the truth, he says. But there is enough evidence to build an alternative theory about what happened to Hitler.

Weschler adds, No one believed the Russians story of Hitlers suicide in the bunker. As early as the summer of 1945, there were headlines asking, Where is Hitler? all over the world.

Recently declassified FBI documents were the push to Shalev and Weschler to begin their film. They long believed that British intelligence officer and historian Hugh Trevor-Ropers investigation into Hitlers death was unprofessional, because Russian troops did not allow access to many forensic investigators.

In those days, the FBI, not the CIA, was responsible for South America, says Weschler. And in declassified documents, we see that the FBI took very seriously the possibility that Hitler fled to Argentina.

In fact, the FBI was so convinced of this possibility that they set up a special unit to investigate. Shalev and Weschler believe they can determine Hitlers exact whereabouts after WWII. Italian journalist Patrick Burnside wrote a book entitled Hitlers Escape about the dictators journey, and the pair used it as a guide.

The Eden Hotel in La Falda, Cordoba [in Argentina] was owned by Ida and Walter Eichhorn, who were close friends of Hitler, Weschler explains. Hitler sent them a Mercedes Benz as a gift. It was the first Benz in Argentina.

According to an FBI letter from September 1945, it was believed the Eichhorns would provide Hitler shelter if he ever needed it. Weschler also claims to have found former hotel employees who say they met Hitler and waited on him after the war.

The most important evidence to Shalev and Weschler comes in the form of DNA testing done on Hitlers skill fragments in 2009, fragments that were recovered from the Berlin bunker.

They showed that they couldnt have been Hitlers skull because they were from a woman under 40, Weschler says. The more you look into it, the less credible the official version becomes, and the more plausible an alternative theory seems.

The old fable about GM is actually not a fable. There are plenty of references ~ even to court cases where people were convicted of being involved in a process of monopolizing rail transit systems, and even buses.

Check it out someday. Just look up General Motors Streetcar Conspiracy.

And in declassified documents, we see that the FBI took very seriously the possibility that Hitler fled to Argentina.

That's one of the problems of working with historical documents. Officials at the time had to listen to every rumor and consider every possibility. That they examined or speculated about something doesn't mean it was true.

You're trying to split threads. I've read SEVERAL of the histories ~ notice, however, we had one of those interlocking board situations ~ and the situation in the Lower Midwest was different than that in California.

But GM didn't need to be prosecuted ~ as soon as US 31 was four-laned and paved with an allweather surface, the central part of the interurban system in the Midwest fell apart like a chicken with its head off.

BTW, I'm just old enough to have interviewed people involved in the various deals that supported an improved road network so we didn't need interurban service.

GM, back in the day, was more like a bird ~ a rather large bird ~ but more like an opportunity feeder than a predatory raptor.

The “Eichmann as used streetcar salesman” story is more entertaining than the “Hitler lives” story that started this thread. At least it’s different. What’s your real beef with GM, anyway? And skip the sci-fi about Eichmann selling trolleys in Indianapolis.

You have no sense of humor ~ nor do you have a good grasp of Midwestern history. The OSS, though, even less humorless, and totally oblivious to history, brought a bunch of SS folks from Eastern Europe (the German allies) to Indianapolis, and to Buffalo NY.

It was considered quite an intelligence coup.

GM, though, had some folks on its board of directors (and probably in some of the more esoteric divisions in the operating company) who took competition with rail quite seriously.

I've never heard anyone tell me Hitler went to Indianapolis, but I really did know people who were familiar with the Adolph Eichmann tale of selling the trolley system to Argentina. Their parents were among those the OSS brought to town so if anyone knew, they'd know.

In the mid 1950s we had a young Hungarian lad who was placed with a family of German WWII immigrants with the requisite SS and OSS relationships ~ went to highschool with him. Actually, he rode with me 3 years! He had some interesting tales ~ and again, the high ranking Nazis involved in selling the trolley story.

I didn't invent this one ~ but I sure never forgot it.

Was it an OSS/SS joke? Is there anything to it beyond the koinkydinks? No one really knows but I think it would make a whale of a great adventure movie ~ midnight rides through town on clattering trolley cars, electrocutions as bad guys grabbed the power bar, jack turners, mysterious Hungarian mathematicians and Latvian musclemen driving fast Studebakers and slow 38 Ford flathead tractors through city streets all over the Midwest ~ they sabotage rail cars, they disrupt power lines ~ blow up silos and burn down outhouses!

You can hang anything you want on this one but don't forget to include David Sarnoff, Zarkes Tarzian, Claire Chennault, and the very model for the Dragon Lady in Terry and the Pirates, Madame Chennault!.

Hey, I never claimed the old GM got convicted of anything, but maybe they should have ~ let’s have a good close look at the new GM’s records they picked up from the old GM. Gotta’ be a reason a hardcore Islamofascist like Obama, or his hard core Stalinist buddy Axelrod wasted so much goodwill on the GM bankruptcy.

There is much more evidence of organized crime promoting the demolition of trolley car systems to glean the metals salvage value into their coffers without being ‘tracked’. An earlier type of money laundering.

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posted on 12/31/2012 8:05:53 PM PST
by Cvengr
(Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)

By the 1950s organized crime in America had substantial legitimate investments ~ much of it in small companies that delivered parcels, packages and news print throughout major cities ~ New York was a legitimate gold mine for them ~ then, by the 1960s they'd started moving into the printing and publishing industries. That was a bit more sophisticated ~ it was mob family money, but mob family cousins without criminal records or connections (and, as I found, quite nice folks who'd learned English, finished highschool ~ with many of them having gone on to college ~ and with great church attendance records).

Stripping trollies down for scraps was probably a tiny side business of the enormous East Coast commercial refuse business they'd invested in. Keeping those cars intact for sale to latin America was certainly more profitable ~ however, when it came to track I'd bet they got most of it. As the trolleys disappeared here in DC so did the track and only later did the DC government get interested in letting contracts to have it removed.

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