When you see t-shirts for sale much before any concrete steps have been taken and only one guy present in the group is an engineer, you know its a
scam. I guess you would have bought the rossi e-cat and keshe foundation UFO as well. Don't be so gullible.

It's not like they're sending them up in cardboard boxes and a bottle of water people....sheesh. They'll most likely be sent with lots of water, a
way to melt ice, labs and living quarters, food and seeds to grow food. Also, some way to harvest energy to create power.

Maybe we'll finally get some truth from 'out there'. I would love to go but I'm too old. I sure hope they do some serious psych evaluations
when choosing the proper candidates! Not like that Lisa Nowak and the diaper incident. Good lord what a mistake she was!

When you see t-shirts for sale much before any concrete steps have been taken and only one guy present in the group is an engineer, you know its a
scam. I guess you would have bought the rossi e-cat and keshe foundation UFO as well. Don't be so gullible.

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Funny. How are those low spraying planes doing in your country

You make claims that are simply not evidenced, so I'll take it as a win and call it a day.

Lets not get into a fight here, no one is winning or losing anything. Look, i will be very happy to see a colony up on Mars. You talk about evidence,
Mars one has no detailed plans to send up people or build any base on Mars yet they sell T-Shirts. They are yet to show any documented collaboration
with space agencies as they have no one who can build a rocket by themselves. They plan to make a TV show, these are the evidence you need to
understand the fact that they are out to make money and have no concrete plans on sending anyone anywhere.

Some quote from the link i posted.

The company lists only one engineer amongst its four-person team on its website, and trumpets the endorsements of Big Brother co-creator Paul Romer as
well as Nobel Prize winner and physicist Gerard 't Hooft - though 't Hooft's expertise lies in quantum mechanics, not astronomy.

Reddit users knocked Landsdorp, saying Mars One has not yet put out any concrete technical explanations of how they will get to Mars and support the
proposed habitats. Some pointed out that NASA has had issues with solar panels on its Mars rovers because of dust storms that erode the panels'
surfaces and block the sunlight for long periods of time, making Mars One's plans to use solar panels for energy generation unsustainable for
supporting human life. But the man claiming to be Landsdorp mostly steered clear of the more scientific questions and directed users to the company's
website.

If Mars One turns out to be a hoax, it wouldn't be the first such stunt originating from the Netherlands in recent months. Dutch artist Floris Kaayk
hoodwinked much of the media with his Human Birdwings project in March, in which he posted YouTube videos purportedly showing a human-powered pair of
mechanical wings.

That article came out the same month the mission was announced! Talk about a wanna-be skeptic jumping the gun.

No. That data is simply out-dated, assuming rubbish.

Here are the facts:

Mars One is officially not for-profit foundation as of October 2012.

They have acquired components for their space missions from several private companies which deal with space exploration. If you've been keeping tabs,
you'll notice space exploration is going from the hands of a few governments, to several upcoming, and long-known private corporations. You don't
have to call NASA to be legit these days.

They are acquiring the Falcon Heavy from SpaceX as their spaceflight launch system.

They will likely utilize a Transit living module from Thales Alenia Space, which will be assembled while in low-orbit of Earth.

Here is a quick list of advisers for the project:

As of November 2012 the Mars One advisory board includes:
Tanja Masson-Zwaan – Deputy Director of the International Institute of Air and Space Law at Leiden University, President of the International
Institute of Space Law, board member of the Netherlands Space Society, advisory board member of the Space Generation Advisory Council and was on the
founding board of Women in Aerospace Europe[30]
Brian Enke – Senior Space Research Analyst at the Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colorado, USA[31]
Profesor Pascale Ehrenfreund – lead investigator with the NASA Astrobiology Institute[32]
Dr. Gino Ormeno – Aviation Medical Examiner[33]
Steve Carsey – a UK television executive and CEO of Conceive Media, a consultancy, development and production venture specialising in the creation
of cross platform entertainment brands for the global market[34]
Dr. Raye Kass – Professor of Applied Human Sciences at Concordia University, Montreal, Canada[35]
Profesor Thais Russomano – has over 20 years experience in Aerospace Medicine, Space Physiology and Medicine, Biomedical Engineering, and
Telemedicine & eHealth research and development[36]
Dr. Christopher P. McKay – a Planetary Scientist at NASA Ames[37] He has a particular interest in the evolution of the solar system and the origin
of life and is actively involved in planning for future Mars missions including human exploration.[38] Dr McKay has been involved with research in
several Mars-like environments and has traveled to the Antarctic Dry Valleys, the Atacama Desert, the Arctic, and the Namib Desert.[38]
Dr. John D. Rummel – Director of the Institute for Coastal Science and Policy at East Carolina University[39]
Dr. John W. Traphagan – Associate Professor of Religious Studies and Centennial Commission and the Liberal Arts Fellow at the University of Texas at
Austin[40]
Dr. James R. Kass – has worked in the field of human spaceflight for more than 30 years[41]

The very fact that they're able to market their selves so well in the media, with this reality show, and to sell such items far in advance like
shirts shows that they might actually have what it takes (a ton of tons of tons of monies) to actually pull this off.

Well then it points in the right direction, really i am wishing this that they succeed. But i guess you understand after all the scam we face
everyday, point being rossi et al. People are naturally skeptical when one asks people to depart with their hard earned cash in the form of
merchandise and donations ahead of the final product. History has shown again and again people making extraordinary claims and asking for donations
and then vanishing overnight. I hope you understand my point of view. Whats extraordinary here is that we are going straight from sending probes to
setting up a permanent colony, which, we don't yet have on the moon. If they suceed i sure am gonna be hooked to the tv set ))

Agreed, there's a lot of potential for scammers these days, and we should all remain vigilant.

I'll meet you halfway and say that I have my doubts this group will actually pull it off successfully, but still . . . we need highly idealistic
people to try and push the species forward. In every endeavor there is risk, and we must be willing to take great risks to attain potential great
rewards.

Some people start with "why not" and leap forward as the technical scientists provide rationale for an adequate challenge. You gotta have people who
are willing to dream big enough to test the current capabilities of the state of art/tech. This guy seems to fit the bill. If we fail, at least we'll
know we tried and have data to work with to know how best to approach it on our next go.

As i was reading this thread i was thinking exactely the same, why Mars and not the Moon??? Man has supposedly already been to the moon and its closer
to us and we are meant to know more about the moon, unless we really were told not to go back to the moon as some claim. To me this has to be some
sort of gimmick or hoax.

There's something about the novelty of planting people on a new planet that will excite billions of minds worldwide if this actually goes down.

We have no clue what impact this experience could have on our collective psyche. I don't think it's too far of a stretch to say that it would create
a new age of technological innovation, and lead us towards rapid colonization of other worlds.

This is just the beginning. Once the seal is broke, we're gonna be whizzing all over the place non-stop.

I think they'd rather go to Mars for the obvious reason that it's just more adventurous than going to the moon. People would be like "Moon? Been there
done that." The website also says they'll be conducting experiments and recording how their bodies react.

But, I'm not sure this is real either, which is one of the reasons I wanted to bring it to ATS.

As i was reading this thread i was thinking exactely the same, why Mars and not the Moon??? Man has supposedly already been to the moon and its closer
to us and we are meant to know more about the moon, unless we really were told not to go back to the moon as some claim. To me this has to be some
sort of gimmick or hoax.

imo

It could be business related the Moon may have 'materials' on it making it worth something more then thought and also bare laws associated with it.
Mars may have different laws that allow Mankind of EA*RTH opportunity to ADVANCE there.

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