Hall of Fame

I've only watched a handful of her matches and in every single one of them she looked like she was on the verge of collapsing from injury/exhaustion/whatever but still miraculously pulled out the win in the end.

If Nadal or Djokovic pulled these stunts with this kind of regularity, we wouldn't hear the end of it

Talk Tennis Guru

Yes you didn’t watch the match which is obvious. But yet you say that Andreescu was only unsuccessful when Kerber moonballed her back and that in all other instances Andreescu gained the edge. Which is not true many times Kerber took those moonballs off the rise and took control of the point. So yes you did state that you only watched the highlights. Which is why your take on what really happened is definitely off.

Rookie

Acting, showing deceitful behaviour, lying, misrepresenting the truth whatever. It’s still insinuating a bad character when you have absolutely no evidence to the contrary and do not know the person at all.

And I said she would have to be an academy award winning actress to behave the way she did with her coach at IW and for that to be fake. Since I believe she was speaking honestly with him, I don’t agree with you.

I think its the shame of social media where we can judge a human we’ve never met and accuse them of faking injuries and whatnot.

G.O.A.T.

There is a big difference between doing these things for legitimate reasons and repeated, systematic abuse with the intention to throw off your opponent. One is fine, the other is gamesmanship. Don't pretend to not know the difference

New User

There is a big difference between doing these things for legitimate reasons and repeated, systematic abuse with the intention to throw off your opponent. One is fine, the other is gamesmanship. Don't pretend to not know the difference

Hall of Fame

Anyone who insists that Kerber said what she said because of the MTOs (something Kerber never admitted) is wrong if only because Kerber is one player who doesn't have that license (since she does it and did it in the very last match she played! It is simply unacceptable for her to be so extremely outraged by MTO's... so I don't even believe that's the issue at hand here. Kerber was irritated by Andreescu overall, period.

Legend

Not surprised by that comment from an 18 year old teen. Most girls I know have some minor obsession with appearance. Doesn't quite make you a drama queen but pretty normal actually. Unless you believe all 18 year olds teen girls are drama queens which, depending on your definition of drama queen, might be true.

New User

schadenfreude.
I´m confuse about the german word schadenfreude in this context.
@raiden
I see no context.
Please help me.
At the german sense is this word not very friendly. If happens a person an mishap and other persons are happy about this, is that "Schadenfreude".
Kerber cannot have schadenfreude..?! She lost the match...

G.O.A.T.

Legend

There is a big difference between doing these things for legitimate reasons and repeated, systematic abuse with the intention to throw off your opponent. One is fine, the other is gamesmanship. Don't pretend to not know the difference

Don't pretend that you don't know that Bianca had shoulder surgery recently, and a stress fracture in her foot.....more than reason enough for ONE medical time-out....don't repeat the same ridiculous accusation.

The real question here is when does Kerber offer an apology, there is no other issue left to discuss now.

G.O.A.T.

Don't pretend that you don't know that Bianca had shoulder surgery recently, and a stress fracture in her foot.....more than reason enough for ONE medical time-out....don't repeat the same ridiculous accusation.

The real question here is when does Kerber offer an apology, there is no other issue left to discuss now.

Too bad so many strange posters here assumed that there was nothing really wrong with Bianca, that it was just some kind of "mind game".....you guys now
have egg on your face....serves you right for jumping to conclusions without evidence

Talk Tennis Guru

I didn't say any of that, and she was moving and hitting just fine in the first set and still got comprehensively owned by Kontaveit, but I won't press the conversation further.

For those that were yesterday laughing about my observations about her moonballing, I will quote her coach from today " So you throw the high ball, and then when you throw your high ball you want to get some depth, you want to push her back, ... and then try to use your forehand, try to get her on the move".

So, not only were my observations correct, but also the reason she does it (to be able to take the initiative after a weak response to the moonball) was correct, and also that it was an integral part of her strategy to "mix it up". Can't beat the feeling when the retaliation comes from the source itself.

Legend

I didn't say any of that, and she was moving and hitting just fine in the first set and still got comprehensively owned by Kontaveit, but I won't press the conversation further.

For those that were yesterday laughing about my observations about her moonballing, I will quote her coach from today " So you throw the high ball, and then when you throw your high ball you want to get some depth, you want to push her back, ... and then try to use your forehand, try to get her on the move".

So, not only were my observations correct, but also the reason she does it (to be able to take the initiative after a weak response to the moonball) was correct, and also that it was an integral part of her strategy to "mix it up". Can't beat the feeling when the retaliation comes from the source itself.