I was just thinking if a person doesn't know that law, has heroin-filled condoms in his belly, and then reads his Singapore embarkation card or notices the Taiwanese sign at the gate, he might suddenly have second thoughts. Too late! Hope you enjoy your trip! What's that? Oh, you need Pepto Bismol? Not feeling well all of a sudden? Why might that be?

Hoid

#6

Re: This is what Canada needs...

Nov 10th, 2018

Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier

I'm all for open borders, but that comes with responsibility.

I just told you that borders do not matter for drugs.

They are a local issue, not an international issue.

MHz

#7

Re: This is what Canada needs...

Nov 11th, 2018

Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer

So hope to God . . .

HAHAHA Why would you think God will do anything for other than making you a grease stain on the sidewalk???

Twin_Moose

Conservative

#8

Re: This is what Canada needs...

Nov 13th, 2018

Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier

I was just thinking if a person doesn't know that law, has heroin-filled condoms in his belly, and then reads his Singapore embarkation card or notices the Taiwanese sign at the gate, he might suddenly have second thoughts. Too late! Hope you enjoy your trip! What's that? Oh, you need Pepto Bismol? Not feeling well all of a sudden? Why might that be?

SINGAPORE - Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is landing in Singapore hoping that by the time he leaves, Canada will know how to pursue freer trade with a 10-nation bloc of major suppliers and customers.
Many members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations have expanding consumer classes and high population-growth rates relative to the rest of the world. Combined, ASEAN's members  the Philippines, Indonesia, Brunei, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia and Burma  have nearly 650 million people and are already Canada's sixth-biggest trading partner.Their East Asia summit is one of the most important gatherings in the region and Trudeau is there for a second year in a row, having been the first Canadian prime minister to attend last year.
But experts warn Canada is at a fork in the road: Continue talks toward a group free-trade deal, which could come with big benefits but take years of painstaking work, or convince ASEAN nations that have not already done so to sign on to a newly ratified Pacific Rim trade deal, called the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership  or CPTPP for short.Former Quebec premier Jean Charest says a confluence of events  Canadian trade deals finalized with Europe and Pacific Rim countries, and a new one in principle with Mexico and the U.S., while President Donald Trump raises trade barriers with others  gives Trudeau help with either path.
"It puts the prime minister in a much better position in the sense of, he's uniquely on the offensive. He is in there to say we want to be part of (this)," said Charest, who's the honorary chairman of the Canada-ASEAN Business Council. "It will be put in the backdrop of this broader world to say, 'With everything that is happening on the trade front, all this makes sense for you and it makes sense for us.' "
Trudeau spoke about problems with protectionism and nationalism over two days in Paris, on the first leg of his 10-day overseas trip. On Monday, ahead of travelling to Singapore, Trudeau said he would have "more to say in due course" on free trade with the ASEAN countries.
"We continue to be very proud of our record on signing progressive trade deals with Europe, with the United States, and with the CPTPP," Trudeau told reporters. "We continue to discuss the possibilities of a free trade agreement with the ASEAN economies, some of Asia's fastest-growing economies."
A preliminary study of a Canada-ASEAN trade agreement has been done. Hammering out a final agreement could take up to eight years, Charest said.
But first the Liberals must show that they are committed to trade with east Asia, a region with a relationship-based business culture, after years of talking big but not following up.
"They have to start to trust you and I have to say, with Canada blowing hot and cold  this year we're there, next year we're not, economy goes down in the U.S. (so) we go to Asia, the economy gets back up in the U.S. and we head back out again  that doesn't cut it," said Lorna Wright, executive director of the Centre for Global Enterprise at York University's Schulich School of Business.
The ASEAN summit also offers Trudeau a seat at a regional security gathering of 18 countries, including the U.S., China and Russia.
A seat at the security table, which the Liberals hope to parlay into a permanent spot, gives Canada a voice in decisions about tensions and issues in southeast Asia that could eventually reach Canadian shores, such as pandemics.
The security table regularly talks about tensions with North Korea, whose dictator, Kim Jong Un, has opened lines of communication with U.S. President Donald Trump.

MHz

#9

Re: This is what Canada needs...

Nov 13th, 2018

$zero$ in real contracts but he will have a big list of what China can supply to us.

White_Unifier

#10

Re: This is what Canada needs...

Nov 13th, 2018

Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose

What's this Singapore has tariffs, I thought you said they don't WU In Singapore, Trudeau seeks more Asia trade

There's more to trade than just tariffs and quotas, such as the compatibility of phyto-sanitary regulations, labeling and packaging laws, etc. The more incompatible they are, the more they serve as trade barriers, whether that was the intention or not. To promote compatibility between these different regulations can contribute to fewer barriers to trade. Those are things you can't do unilaterally. For those, you have to negotiate common standards.

Re: This is what Canada needs...

Trade involves far more than just tariffs and quotas. Those two are things a country can deal with unilaterally. Beyond that though, you might still need common safety standards, patent and copyright rules, banking standards, phytosanitary standards, labeling and packaging standards, etc. etc. etc.

For example, if all of those standards are different, even if you can sell tariff and quota free, you might still need to revise your labels to conform to that country's labeling and packaging regulations. Kinder eggs aren't allowed in the US for example, and that has nothing to do with tariffs and quotas, but rather the fact that even US manufacturers would not be allowed to sell them on the US market due to US safety standards. Banks that want to do business in Singapore still need to conform to Singapore's banking regulations. If those regulations are very different from those of other states for example, then that could impose costs on that bank since it would have to adopt different banking processes for the Singapore market and a different one again for the Canadian market for example.

Again, there is a heck of a lot more to free trade than just tariffs and quotas. While unilateral free trade can address tariffs and quotas far more efficiently than free trade agreements can, they can't address other aspects of international trade as efficiently unless a state wanted to unilaterally just conform its own standards to those of another major trading partner.

For example, I suppose the UK could choose to voluntarily conform its standards to the EU one just to make trade easier between them, but then that gives the UK no say in what those standards will actually be. One advantage with a free trade agreement is that all parties have a say and so can negotiate commonly-agreed-on standards. Tariffs and quotas represent only the more superficial aspects of free trade and don't even begin to scratch the surface.

Twin_Moose

Conservative

#13

Re: This is what Canada needs...

Nov 13th, 2018

Everything you wrote is in a trade agreement, and I agree, Free trade is about getting rid of tariffs and you said that they don't have any, I guess you were wrong on that point

White_Unifier

#14

Re: This is what Canada needs...

Nov 13th, 2018

Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose

Everything you wrote is in a trade agreement, and I agree, Free trade is about getting rid of tariffs and you said that they don't have any, I guess you were wrong on that point

Singapore has almost no tariffs and, like Hong Kong, imposes tariffs on things it mostly doesn't even produce. In other words, it's not to protect its domestic industries but just to discourage consumption of the product itself, like tobacco, alcohol, and motor vehicles.

MHz

#15

Re: This is what Canada needs...

Nov 13th, 2018

Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose

Everything you wrote is in a trade agreement, and I agree, Free trade is about getting rid of tariffs and you said that they don't have any, I guess you were wrong on that point

How does that work where 4 countries join together to build 1 jet and sell it to everybody else at a huge profit.

Is that 'free trade'?
Is it not having the right to sell ot buy from anybody you want not a 'God given right' and anything less is restrictive trade.

Twin_Moose

Conservative

#16

Re: This is what Canada needs...

4 weeks ago

Quote: Originally Posted by MHz

How does that work where 4 countries join together to build 1 jet and sell it to everybody else at a huge profit.
Is that 'free trade'?
Is it not having the right to sell ot buy from anybody you want not a 'God given right' and anything less is restrictive trade.

Not even worth answering

Twin_Moose

Conservative

#17

Re: This is what Canada needs...

4 weeks ago

Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier

https://www.export.gov/article?id=Si...Import-Tariffs
Singapore has almost no tariffs and, like Hong Kong, imposes tariffs on things it mostly doesn't even produce. In other words, it's not to protect its domestic industries but just to discourage consumption of the product itself, like tobacco, alcohol, and motor vehicles.

SINGAPORE - Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is telling a bloc of 10 Asian nations that Canada wants to launch full-fledged talks on a free trade deal as early as spring.
Trudeau made the comments during a luncheon at the Association of Southeast Asian Nations whose members have nearly 650 million people, a combined economy of US$2.8 trillion, and are already Canada's sixth-biggest trading partner.
He is suggesting that exploratory talks could be wrapped up by the spring so negotiators could begin talks on a free trade agreement.
And he also is making a pitch to the ASEAN nations  the Philippines, Indonesia, Brunei, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia and Burma  for their support for Canada's bid for a seat on the United Nations security council.
Trudeau has spent two days in Singapore trying to situate Canada as a more favourable place for Asian companies to invest than the United States.

I don't think this will fly though

Quote:

Trudeau kicked off the meeting by saying the two leaders would have a "frank and open" talk.
After the meeting, International Trade Minister Jim Carr told reporters the government remains interested in having a deal that helps female entrepreneurs, Indigenous Peoples and promotes other Canadian values.
China has had a cool response to the proposals, but Carr didn't say how Li and the Chinese delegation responded to the concepts at the meeting during the annual ASEAN summit.
Carr says any trade deal will take time to pull together.