tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-82303970331141138472017-08-17T15:07:43.956+01:00vapingpointAbout vaping 'n other stuff
vapingpoint Liznoreply@blogger.comBlogger466125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-80083853367548330132017-08-04T10:25:00.000+01:002017-08-04T10:25:46.148+01:00Reduced nicotine cigarettes and other insanitiesHere is a picture from an article by an idiot in the New York Times<br /><h1 class="headline" id="headline" itemprop="headline" style="background-color: white; font-family: nyt-cheltenham, georgia, &quot;times new roman&quot;, times, serif; font-feature-settings: 'kern' 1; font-size: 2rem; font-weight: 500; line-height: 2.25rem; margin: 0px 0px 10px; visibility: visible;"><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/opinion/fda-smoking-nicotine.html" target="_blank">Taking the Addiction Out of Smoking</a></h1><br /><img height="400" src="https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/08/02/opinion/02proctor/02proctor-superJumbo.jpg" width="400" /><br />This picture is supposed to show how taking the nicotine out of cigarettes will help smokers smoke LESS. (fourth image)<br /><br />I kid you not!<br /><br />So I am going to suggest this picture should be reversed to show what happens when you take the nicotine out of cigarettes.<br /><br />Lets call the images one, two, three, four.<br /><br />Number four image is the face with the least smoke around it. To my mind and from my own personal experience, image four is a picture of a person who smokes GOOD STRONG CIGARETTES!<br /><br />Number one image is the smoker who has been forced by insane meddling to reduce nicotine, to smoke a product that is harming them. They are smoking more - MORE. They are obliterated by smoke.<br /><blockquote class="tr_bq"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: georgia, &quot;times new roman&quot;, times, serif; font-size: 17px;">Cigarettes with nonaddictive nicotine levels would be radically different from what used to be known as “low tar” or “light” cigarettes, marketing gimmicks now barred by law. Those cigarettes were advertised as delivering less nicotine and tar into the lungs, even though there was no actual reduction.</span></blockquote>No - there WAS a reduction in the experience of the consumer buying the product. They were terrible things! People smoked more.<br /><blockquote class="tr_bq"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: georgia, &quot;times new roman&quot;, times, serif; font-size: 17px;">Under the F.D.A. proposal, nicotine in cigarettes would be set at a level so low that smokers would not be able to extract enough to create or sustain addiction. Cigarette makers today keep the nicotine at between 1 and 2 percent by weight, having found this to be the Goldilocks optimum, neither too harsh nor too mild. Reducing this percentage by a factor of 10 would make it very difficult for cigarettes to become addictive. Reducing it even further would make addiction virtually impossible. Kids might start smoking, but they wouldn’t have trouble quitting.</span></blockquote>Really? What a load of bollocks! &nbsp;Nicotine has already been reduced - cigarettes today are not like they used to be before they were meddled with.<br /><blockquote class="tr_bq"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: georgia, &quot;times new roman&quot;, times, serif; font-size: 17px;"><b>The beauty</b> of the Tobacco Control Act signed by President Barack Obama in 2009 is that while the F.D.A. is barred from requiring the removal of&nbsp;</span><em style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: georgia, &quot;times new roman&quot;, times, serif; font-size: 17px;">all</em><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: georgia, &quot;times new roman&quot;, times, serif; font-size: 17px;">nicotine from cigarettes, or from banning cigarettes altogether, the agency can set a maximum nicotine level in the interest of public health. So though the tobacco industry cannot be forced to reduce nicotine to zero, it could be required to cut the level by, say, 99 percent.</span></blockquote>The BEAUTY? <b>Beauty</b>?<br /><br />Come on.<br /><blockquote class="tr_bq"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: georgia, &quot;times new roman&quot;, times, serif; font-size: 17px;">If the industry is serious about what it claims to want, maybe cigarette makers should sit down with the F.D.A. and hammer out a plan to end this catastrophic and entirely preventable epidemic.</span></blockquote>This catastrophic and entirely preventable epidemic has been made worse by Tobacco Control interfering with the product. Give smokers proper cigarettes made with proper NATURAL tobacco as it once used to be. It should have been required that cigarettes be manufactured to high standards, with the best ingredients. &nbsp;<b><u>THAT'S what you should have done.&nbsp;</u></b><div><br /></div>vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-14094422133152178032017-07-22T05:26:00.000+01:002017-07-22T05:26:50.711+01:00Remember all our hard work in Brussels?I have never heard of the group<br /><br /><h2 class="site-name" style="background-color: #1a8899; border: 0px; color: #5c5a40; font-family: CallunaRegular, Georgia, &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, Times, serif; font-size: 27.2px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-caps: small-caps; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: 0.02em; line-height: 1em; margin: 0em 0px 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0.2em 0px 0px; vertical-align: baseline; word-spacing: 1.12px;"><a href="https://corporateeurope.org/" style="border: 0px; color: #edede1; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; letter-spacing: 0.02em; line-height: 1.3em; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; vertical-align: baseline;" title="Home">Corporate Europe Observatory</a></h2><div><br /></div><div>They expose corporate lobbying at the European Union. That's a good thing, yes?</div><div><br /></div><blockquote class="tr_bq">In their leader, they say&nbsp;</blockquote><blockquote class="tr_bq"> '<span style="background-color: #f9faf5; color: #5c5a40; font-family: CallunaRegular, Georgia, &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, Times, serif; font-size: 17.6px; letter-spacing: 0.8px; word-spacing: 1.12px;">Brussels is at the centre of EU decision-making and as such attracts thousands of lobbyists promoting the interests of big business. In this section you can find basic information about this corporate lobbying and how it affects you as a citizen.'</span></blockquote>That's a good thing, yes?<br /><br />So, I did a bit of surfing around on their site looking for 'Smokefree', ASH and other lobby groups. <br /><br />Well, they don't seem to be lobby groups - just NGO's.<br /><br />I see my protest blogging started in 2012 with posts called<br /><br /><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, &quot;Palatino Linotype&quot;, Palatino, serif; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; position: relative;"><a href="https://vapingpoint.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/who-fuck-are-these-people.html" style="font-weight: normal;" target="_blank">Who the fuck are these people?</a>&nbsp;<span style="font-weight: normal;">and</span> <a href="https://vapingpoint.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/getting-to-know-who.html" style="font-weight: normal;" target="_blank">Getting to know WHO!</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://vapingpoint.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/a-bunch-of-ignorant-backward-bigoted.html" target="_blank">A bunch of ignorant, backward, bigoted loonies</a></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, &quot;Palatino Linotype&quot;, Palatino, serif; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; position: relative;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, &quot;Palatino Linotype&quot;, Palatino, serif; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; position: relative;"><b>By 2013, us vapers and smokers were working hard - HARD!</b>&nbsp;</div><div style="background-color: white; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, &quot;Palatino Linotype&quot;, Palatino, serif; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; position: relative;"><br /></div><h3 class="post-title entry-title" itemprop="name" style="background-color: white; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, &quot;Palatino Linotype&quot;, Palatino, serif; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; position: relative;"><span style="color: black; font-size: small; font-weight: normal;"><a href="https://vapingpoint.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/please-share-vapoteurs-petition-to-sign.html" target="_blank">HURRY,HURRY,HURRY Vapoteurs! Links to share on my behalf- pleeeese!</a></span></h3><div><br /></div><div>Our guts were pouring out in the end. Some of us just collapsed under the strain. Other stubborn ones carried on. They are still at it! I thank them all for fighting so hard - the vapoteurs united! Every single small action by a ton of ordinary folk led to a tsunami of citizens &nbsp;across the European Union trying to change our future as the death knell sounded for US by decree from World Rulers - Tobacco Control.</div><div><br /></div><div>Would you like to know what was thought about us in the European Union?</div><div><br /></div><div>I quote -</div><div><br /></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div style="background-color: #f9faf5; border: 0px; color: #383727; font-family: CallunaRegular, Georgia, &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, Times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; letter-spacing: 0.8px; line-height: inherit; outline: 0px; padding: 0.5em 0px; vertical-align: baseline; word-spacing: 1.12px;">Paul Murphy MEP explained that in the Parliament, MEPs “are subjected to a lot of astroturf campaigning in the sense that it is manufactured. We get emails from so-called ordinary constituents about electronic cigarettes. But they are really detailed about the Directive.”</div><div style="background-color: #f9faf5; border: 0px; color: #383727; font-family: CallunaRegular, Georgia, &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, Times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; letter-spacing: 0.8px; line-height: inherit; outline: 0px; padding: 0.5em 0px; vertical-align: baseline; word-spacing: 1.12px;">‘Astroturf’ is the name given to seemingly grass roots campaigns, that have actually been established, encouraged and sometimes funded by companies and corporate lobby groups interested in their success. One MEP assistant told CEO: “They have organised online, created electronic cigarette forums. They’re quite an aggressive lobby”. Another said: “We get a lot of abuse on Twitter about calling for more legislation on electronic cigarettes.”</div><div style="background-color: #f9faf5; border: 0px; color: #383727; font-family: CallunaRegular, Georgia, &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, Times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; letter-spacing: 0.8px; line-height: inherit; outline: 0px; padding: 0.5em 0px; vertical-align: baseline; word-spacing: 1.12px;">Totally Wicked, another UK electronic cigarette firm, sent every MEP an e-cigarette. One MEP commented incredulously that “They are sending addictive drugs to MEPs. It is quite incredible”.&nbsp;<span lang="en-US" style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;" xml:lang="en-US">Jutta Haug MEP from the S&amp;D said she had been “strongly lobbied by electronic cigarette users”.&nbsp;</span>The rapporteur on the Tobacco Products Directive, Linda McAvan MEP, has also said that “There is a very aggressive attitude.”</div><div style="background-color: #f9faf5; border: 0px; color: #383727; font-family: CallunaRegular, Georgia, &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, Times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; letter-spacing: 0.8px; line-height: inherit; outline: 0px; padding: 0.5em 0px; vertical-align: baseline; word-spacing: 1.12px;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">&gt;&gt;&gt;</span></div></blockquote><blockquote class="tr_bq"><span style="background-color: #f9faf5; color: #5c5a40; font-family: CallunaRegular, Georgia, &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, Times, serif; font-size: 24px; letter-spacing: 0.02em; word-spacing: 1.12px;">Conclusions</span></blockquote><blockquote class="tr_bq" style="background-color: #f9faf5; border: 0px; color: #383727; font-family: CallunaRegular, Georgia, &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, Times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; letter-spacing: 0.8px; line-height: inherit; outline: 0px; padding: 0.5em 0px; text-align: left; vertical-align: baseline; word-spacing: 1.12px;">The tobacco lobby – and e-cigarette industry – has been intensifying its lobbying offensive towards the European Parliament. Their tactics and strategies have included frequent calls, emails and invitations for drinks and meals; the distribution to MEPs of product samples; turning up to MEP offices without prior arrangements; putting pressure on MEPs to table amendments that are in their interests; orchestrating email and social media campaigns; and, indirect lobbying through small retailers, anti-counterfeiting firms and farmers’ groups. All of this should be seen in the context of the UN FCTC – which prohibits contacts between public health policy-makers and the tobacco industry unless strictly necessary to regulate it, and then only under complete public transparency.<br />The bulk of our research, including contacts with MEPs, has indicated that:<ul style="background-color: #f9faf5; border: 0px; color: #383727; font-family: CallunaRegular, Georgia, &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, Times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; letter-spacing: 0.8px; line-height: inherit; list-style: square outside; margin: 0px 0px 0.5em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 1em; vertical-align: baseline; word-spacing: 1.12px;"><li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-align: left; vertical-align: baseline;">Many MEPs, their assistants and advisers have described an intense or even 'aggressive' lobby from tobacco industry representatives, particularly in regards to high numbers of telephone calls, emails and requests for meetings. Others seem to be less targeted, and note public health NGOs, although far fewer in number and resources, also have a prominent lobby presence.</li></ul><ul style="background-color: #f9faf5; border: 0px; color: #383727; font-family: CallunaRegular, Georgia, &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, Times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; letter-spacing: 0.8px; line-height: inherit; list-style: square outside; margin: 0px 0px 0.5em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 1em; vertical-align: baseline; word-spacing: 1.12px;"><li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-align: left; vertical-align: baseline;">It is apparent that the tobacco lobby knows who to target to achieve the best results (for its interests), in particular targeting MEPs that they see as more receptive to their arguments as well as those on opinion giving – rather than the lead committee on the Tobacco Products Directive – committees.</li></ul><ul style="background-color: #f9faf5; border: 0px; color: #383727; font-family: CallunaRegular, Georgia, &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, Times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; letter-spacing: 0.8px; line-height: inherit; list-style: square outside; margin: 0px 0px 0.5em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 1em; vertical-align: baseline; word-spacing: 1.12px;"><li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-align: left; vertical-align: baseline;">The electronic cigarette industry has in recent months represented a particularly vociferous lobby, notably using social media campaigns, ‘astro turfing’ tactics as well as the distribution of free samples.</li></ul><ul style="background-color: #f9faf5; border: 0px; color: #383727; font-family: CallunaRegular, Georgia, &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, Times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; letter-spacing: 0.8px; line-height: inherit; list-style: square outside; margin: 0px 0px 0.5em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 1em; vertical-align: baseline; word-spacing: 1.12px;"><li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-align: left; vertical-align: baseline;">Only some political groupings, as well as certain individual MEPs – notably including the rapporteur on the Directive - are publicly disclosing meetings and contacts with tobacco industry representatives. There is not yet a consistent implementation of the UN FCTC rules on contacts with tobacco lobbyists by the European Parliament. There have even – very worryingly – been signals from the Parliament that suggest they do not consider the FCTC to be legally binding on them and consequently see no need for a consistent approach to transparency around tobacco contacts.</li></ul><ul style="background-color: #f9faf5; border: 0px; color: #383727; font-family: CallunaRegular, Georgia, &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, Times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-stretch: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; letter-spacing: 0.8px; line-height: inherit; list-style: square outside; margin: 0px 0px 0.5em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 1em; vertical-align: baseline; word-spacing: 1.12px;"><li style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-align: left; vertical-align: baseline;">There is evidence that industry-sourced amendments have made their way more or less word-for-word into the amendments proposed by some MEPs. Two MEPs in particular appear to have largely copy-pasted from the documents showing amendments in the industry's favour – and contrary to the strengthening of public health policy.</li></ul>With a key European Parliament ENVI committee vote on new tobacco legislation taking place later this week, this report is a curtain-raiser on the scale and intensity of tobacco industry lobbying that has been going on in the Parliament in recent months. The tobacco industry has a long record of manipulation and disinformation, which has - uniquely - resulted in international law intended to minimise interactions between the tobacco industry and public-health policy makers. The lobby battle around the EU's new Tobacco Products Directive however shows considerable activity from traditional tobacco lobbyists as well as e-cigarette companies, resulting in numerous contacts between policy-makers and the tobacco industry, many of which are subject to little or no transparency. The concerns expressed by many MEPs about the apparent tobacco industry amendments tabled via their Parliamentary colleagues, indicates that the tobacco lobby is having significant success where it should not even be having significant access.</blockquote><div>For every vaper/smoker/non-vaper/non-smoker/friends/families that personally sacrificed their time, their money, their relationships, the 'astroturfers' all, that fought in this campaign, I salute you!</div><div><br /></div><div>Tobacco Industry? My foot!</div><div><br /></div><div>In actual fact the 'astroturfers' you ignored - millions of us - yes millions - were just ordinary people like me.</div><div><br /></div><div><span style="font-family: CallunaRegular, Georgia, &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, Times, serif; letter-spacing: 0.02em; word-spacing: 1.12px;"><a href="https://corporateeurope.org/lobbycracy/2013/07/tobacco-lobbyists-all-fired-ahead-key-vote" style="font-family: CallunaRegular, Georgia, &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, Times, serif; letter-spacing: 0.02em; word-spacing: 1.12px;" target="_blank">Lobbyists all fired up ahead of key vote</a></span></div><div><br /></div>vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-5443378984198111882017-07-19T12:53:00.000+01:002017-07-19T12:53:42.555+01:00Why should smokers defend vapers?I recently published a post called <a href="https://vapingpoint.blogspot.co.uk/2017/07/why-should-vapers-defend-smokers.html" target="_blank">Why should vapers defend smokers</a>. a lot of people have read it.<br /><br />But today, I want to ask why smokers should defend vapers.<br /><br />There has been such bad blood between vapers and smokers with vapers resorting to all the Tobacco Control language like 'the filthy habit of smoking' 'stinkies' (for cigarettes) and repeating Tobacco Control catch phrases and dodgy science about smoking. Even 'vaping saves lives' can be seen as<span style="background-color: white;"> a judgment on</span>&nbsp;smokers.<br /><br />Smokers see vapers as trampling all over THEM whilst trying to get approval at cost to the already persecuted smoker.<br /><br />The treatment and complete disregard for smokers has been abominable. My rage was ignited when, as a smoker, on a training course, I was 'allowed' to smoke in a 1910 urinal, uncleaned from that time, stinking of old pee that encrusted the walls and floor - an unused 'room' at the end of the building that was 'the smoking room'. This was way back when businesses were required to provide smoking rooms. I was a dignified woman, being trained to manage other dignified women, and we had to cower in an unclean urinal, trying not to heave or touch anything. The company for whom I actually worked had provided us with a perfectly good smoking room, so the complete disrespect was a stark, offensive thing to me.<br /><br />There were many, many offensive things done to me as a smoker. I have not forgotten.<br /><br />But I shall tell you of this experience which branded on my mind that Tobacco Control was the most evil thing and very dangerous in its ideology. I had flown back from Paris. (where there was a charming open air garden in the middle of the airport where smokers could smoke) to Manchester airport. The smokers on the plane, me included, that were travelling up to Cumbria, made a beeline for the station - the OPEN AIR station, to enjoy a cigarette. There were new 'NO SMOKING' signs everywhere. No smoking on an open air station? So we lit up. Within minutes there were airport staff on the platform with squeegy bottles of water spraying those of us who refused to put our cigarettes out. People were shocked. We were being physically attacked in our own country by insane 'enforcers'. We were attacked by our own countrymen.<br /><br />So you will see that inciting the citizens of a country to attack their own countrymen for an ideology, is not far off dangerous stuff that can spin out of control to much deeper, evil actions.<br /><br />Smokers in the UK may be attacked in any way, by law, by taxes, by exclusion, by insults, by vilification by anyone, anywhere, however they wish. It is approved of by the state.<br /><br />There is only one word for such state approved violence in a country - unacceptable!<br /><br />That is what vapers need to get their heads around. Stop buying into an evil system. Don't do it yourselves!<br /><br />But<br /><br />Smokers - look sharp - the arrival of vaping technology that every passing week is making vaping as pleasurable as smoking, is a wonderful thing for all smokers. Vapers might have insulted you in their efforts for survival, and I'm sorry for that. But suddenly it looks as if vaping will be 'normalised' for the first time in any Western Country. <b><a href="https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/4049520/bosses-staff-vape-office-switch-smoking-e-cigarettes/" target="_blank">Vapers may vape at work</a>.&nbsp;</b><br /><b><br /></b>Smokers could take some time to consider that supporting vapers in their efforts for fairness towards themselves, could be very good for smokers too. Despite the dreadfully unethical actions that you have endured, the fact that there IS a substitute for smoking is a wonderful thing. It's not smoking as you really like to use tobacco, but it's a way to comfort and (even) give you pleasure.<br /><br />And the best thing I like about vaping EVERYWHERE, which I do on purpose because it gives me such joy, is saying in my mind "Fuck you Tobacco Control, Go stuff yourselves!".<br /><br />vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-46684487982184077062017-07-18T15:05:00.002+01:002017-07-18T15:13:00.625+01:00Why should vapers defend smokers?<span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;"><a href="https://vapingpoint.blogspot.co.uk/2017/07/letter-to-theresa-may.html" target="_blank"><b>My video 'Letter to Theresa May' </b></a>got shared big time through other people's posts and other bloggers. Unfortunately the election went poorly for Mrs May and it seems she might not be Prime Minister for very long. Also, she had to face two terrorist attacks and the burning of Grenfell Towers. I should imagine my letter is languishing in a file - or rubbish bin/trash dump somewhere in the UK.</span><br /><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;">I got a reply telling me Mrs May was a bit busy (!), but my letter would be passed to her. But actually Mrs May is still busy. She's trying to save her political life. The letter was a real paper letter - and the next one will be too. But next time, I'll address it to 'The Prime Minister'.</span><br /><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;">But what THIS post is about is why I defend smokers, when I myself have not smoked a cigarette since 2011.</span><br /><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;">My letter only concerned smokers - not vapers.&nbsp;</span><br /><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;">Why am I not concerned about vapers?</span><br /><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;">Well I AM concerned about vapers and that's why I defend smokers.</span><br /><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;">Tobacco Control in all its forms, harm reduction activists, charities, lobby groups, World Health Organisation, The European Union Tobacco Control Directive and all anti-smokers are working at the Endgame.</span><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-size: 17px;"><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;">&nbsp;<a href="http://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/21/2/293" target="_blank">‘the final stage of the process of ending tobacco use’.</a></span></span></blockquote><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;">and</span><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq"><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;">&nbsp;<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-size: 17px;">zero or close to zero prevalence of tobacco use), complete (or close to) ending of commercial sale of tobacco</span><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-size: 17px;">&nbsp;and tobacco use being fully denormalised in society, with virtually nil exposure of children to tobacco use</span></span></blockquote><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;">I repeat - &nbsp;</span><br /><br /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-size: 17px;"><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;">Tobacco use being fully <b><u>denormalised</u></b> in society, with virtually <b><u>nil exposure </u></b>of children to tobacco use.</span></span><br /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-size: 17px;"><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;"><br /></span></span><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;">To me, this is something that is completely offensive, in every way - &nbsp;morally, ethically, spiritually, ideologically, politically. Smoking is a lifestyle choice, not a mosquito, or bacterial infection that needs stamping out. It is not an epidemic in the way of Polio or Ebola. It is not even genital mutilation.</span><br /><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;">I find it astonishing that smokers are given no consideration even though most smokers do not die from smoking. Well - &nbsp;in the&nbsp;<span style="color: #333333; font-size: 15px;">1960s it was reportedly 1 in 5. &nbsp;In the 1990s &nbsp;it was 1 in 3.&nbsp; And lately, it is " up to half of all smokers" die from smoking. So you can see that Tobacco Control nocebos of medical porn on packets of cigarettes are making smokers die even more quickly than they did before! &nbsp;(no joke actually)</span></span><br /><span style="color: #333333; font-size: 15px;"><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;"><br /></span></span><span style="color: #333333; font-size: 15px;"><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;">Smoking is a pleasurable activity. Vapers substitute vaping for smoking. &nbsp;Smoking and vaping are inseparable.&nbsp;</span></span><br /><span style="color: #333333; font-size: 15px;"><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;"><br /></span></span><span style="color: #333333; font-size: 15px;"><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;">Whatever is said and done to smokers is being done to us. The same regulations will apply.</span></span><br /><span style="color: #333333; font-size: 15px;"><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;"><br /></span></span><span style="color: #333333; font-size: 15px;"><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;">And they already are being - <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/33079473/so-where-can-you-still-vape" target="_blank"><b>Where can you still Vape?</b></a></span></span><br /><b><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;"><br /></span></b><b><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smoking_bans" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;">Where can you smoke?</span></a></b><br /><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;">I have heard vapers say "Don't vape where you can't smoke". The Smoking Bans are the problem because smoking and vaping are perceived as the SAME.&nbsp;</span><br /><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;">That's why we need to demand consideration for smokers. We need to demand an end to <b><u>their</u></b> persecution. Without legal consideration for smokers, there will be no respite for vapers either.</span><br /><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;">There needs to be a change in attitude to how smokers are treated.The torture screw needs to stop turning on them in the Tobacco Control attempt to reach The End Game. If vapers just chill out thinking they don't have to defend smokers because they don't smoke, THEY are going to be crushed in the torture screw too. And it won't make the least little difference on how 'harm reducing' vaping is compared to smoking. It won't make one jot of difference!</span><br /><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;">Defending smokers, which we so recently were, is a vaper's duty. Vapers are simply smokers that vape instead of smoking.</span><br /><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;">Vapers AND smokers need to stand together against The End Game. It's a most evil totalitarian ideology to which controlling the people by legislation is being attached. It is vile in its guise of being about our 'health'!</span><br /><br />vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-57071030227760821362017-07-14T22:06:00.001+01:002017-07-15T09:22:12.696+01:00Letter to Theresa May<div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;">12<sup>th</sup> May 2017</div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br /> </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;">Dear Mrs May,</div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br /> </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;">I have great admiration for you. I am wishing you the very best for the coming elections. We need your strength to deliver Brexit safely to our country.</div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br /> </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;">There is something I am hoping you would clear up for me – and many others like me. I would like to know how our government can continue to perpetrate abusive legislation against smokers through its laws? </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br /> </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;">Gradually over the last twenty years, I have watched how Tobacco Control have infiltrated our Health System. Under Labour, a total indoor smoking ban was pushed through Parliament when smokers were expecting a partial ban. It worried me that the law entered private property. That is not moral. But at least smokers were allowed to smoke in their own homes, psychiatric wards, prison and space rented as their “home”. I believe that the ban greatly affected our economy and made misery for millions of British citizens. I am talking about personal misery, loneliness and the destruction of communities and hardship for the older generation. </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br /> </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;">This is serious stuff for me. </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br /> </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;">As the years go by, I see the influence of Tobacco Control gradually lobbying for more and more – and more legislation against the people of this country - out door smoking bans, private vehicle smoking bans, hidden stock in shops, and now medical porn on plain packs. Such nocebos on packaging are a crime against the health of the people!</div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br /> </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;">All these things that have come to pass, are totalitarianism in it's purest form. I find it very frightening that a small funded elite group that know what's best for everyone in the name of health, can come to have such power in the Government of this country. I am shocked that the government has ALLOWED it. </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br /> </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;">Our United Kingdom has the most restrictive smoking regulations – and it's NOT because it's the European Union's “fault”. It's ours! Our government has believed Tobacco Control ideology, especially the Second Hand Smoke idea that they “manufactured” to make every smoker guilty of harming others and every non smoker fearful of smokers. </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br /> </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;">What is wrong with us? How are we so blind?</div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br /> </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;">So I need to find out who speaks for smokers in our government? </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br /> </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;">Who will say this is enough legislation?</div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br /> </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;">Who will say “Enough is enough! In fact we need a roll back to sanity.”?</div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br /> </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;">Who will see that we now live in an abusive society where smokers have no consideration in any way whatsoever and the persecution simply increases?</div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br /> </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;">Who is saying that the Tobacco Control Industry influence needs to be stopped?</div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br /> </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;">Who is weighing up the cost of Tobacco Control in all its forms in money spent by the government, the cost of implementing their ideology, the cost of black marketing and lost taxes and the cost of the suffering of the people?</div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br /> </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;">Who is questioning the morality of stopping smokers smoking in psychiatric wards, in prison, in their own offices in their own homes, in their own homes, in the open air, outside hospitals, on station platforms, on beaches – beaches!? This is not ethical.</div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br /> </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;">Who in this coming election will be giving smokers ANY hope that the insanity of the few who desire “The Endgame “ i.e a <b>smoker </b>free world, will be curtailed? And their offences against smokers stopped? A persecution of Christians, Buddhists, Coffee drinkers, cyclists, biscuit nibblers or any other lifestyle choice would never be accepted in a fair country. Our thinking has been vitiated by design.</div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br /> </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;">There are millions of smokers who are waiting to hear who will give them some consideration.</div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br /> </div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;">I am hoping YOUR government will have some consideration for the smokers who have had no voice, no power, no media support and no confidence to describe their pain.</div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br /> </div><br /><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0cm;">Yours sincerely,</div><br /><br /><iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="270" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/MCHFzYxgik0" width="480"></iframe>vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-81329978154349117392017-06-08T19:10:00.000+01:002017-06-08T19:10:21.351+01:00The healing power of smoking (vaping)There is something evil in the air worldwide - and its not smoke or vapour. What the evil is, is the intrusion of The Tobacco Control Industry into the private lives of smokers and vapers and their malice aforethought in re-sculpting the whole of society.<br /><br />I shall use smoking to mean vaping <b>and</b> smoking. For vapers, the way smokers are treated is the absolute pivot of their own treatment in the world. To defend ourselves, we have to defend smokers.<br /><br />I believe, the suppression of smoking, has caused a devastating alteration in society. It is especially noticeable here, where I live in the United Kingdom. Where I am, is, of course, the only place I have experienced. I see that since the smoking ban that came in in 2007, thousands of people are lonelier, more isolated and more depressed than before the ban. Society has been weakened. Smokers have been weakened. People have been weakened. The inner spirit, the verve, the "guts" of the population has drained away. The use of alcohol and other drugs has increased and suicide rates have gone up. Mental health is a problem. Cancer rates have increased. Guilt is the stick to beat any person who becomes ill here. Your condition, whatever it is, is because of your lifestyle. You smoked, someone else smoked, you ate badly, you drank too much, you got sick.<br /><br />Political correctness has been pushed since about 2000 and absurd laws here forbid actions or speech that might offend others to the point that the citizens of this country, have become mightily dis-empowered.<br /><br />People are bombarded by anti smoking, anti health, anti freedom propaganda constantly as The Tobacco Control Industry lobby our parliament for more and more legislation against smokers. Having pushed them out of doors into the streets, smokers are being banned from the streets, parks and even beaches! This is the plan of the "Endgame" in Tobacco Control. It is genocide of smokers worldwide. Furthermore, any protest here in the UK has been completely muzzled through the disapproval of any speech defending the habit of smoking or smokers. Talking about smoking is not politically correct, unless it is to denigrate it.<br /><br />There is a healing power in smoking. Many people use smoking unknowingly as medicine, to control mood, supply pleasure, focus their minds, relax, uplift and help them cope with life. They smoke to be creative, to be social, to amplify aspects of coping - to fill holes, to comfort. Smoking is not simply a filthy habit. In each person's life, smoking is fulfilling something required.<br /><br />Tobacco is an extraordinary plant - medicinal in many ways, and, once, cigarettes were made with natural tobacco. The crime that Tobacco Control has committed is to meddle with consumer choice, demanding "safer"cigarettes of manufacturers causing&nbsp;<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #15255b;">modern tobacco products and the production process to change.&nbsp;</span><span style="background-color: white; color: #15255b;">&nbsp;Added to this, the use of medical porn on cigarette packs, together with constant anti smoking propaganda, they have criminally infected the minds of the whole of society. Once, cigarette packs held a single warning "smoking kills". I believe the harm of Tobacco Control is to have created a situation where smoking will kill much quicker than it has ever done at any time by their brain-fear dogma drip-feed, plain packs, hidden stock in shops and wild science. Anti smoking busybody healthists, have completely overlooked the beneficial aspects to a society that smokes.</span></span><br /><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #15255b;"><br /></span></span><span style="color: #15255b;"><span style="background-color: white;">It has produced a society dessicated of the old vitality of the smoking era.</span></span><br /><span style="color: #15255b;"><span style="background-color: white;"><br /></span></span><span style="color: #15255b;"><span style="background-color: white;">Something has died. There is an evil in the air. The prohibitions placed on our people here, in the UK and other countries on smoking, on thinking, on speaking out, on personal choice, substituting guilt for self esteem, is totalitarianism. It is a monstrous plot against people, to make them weak and feeble and accepting of their own repression.</span></span><br /><span style="color: #15255b;"><span style="background-color: white;"><br /></span></span><span style="color: #15255b;"><span style="background-color: white;">As a vaper who is in my 6th year of not smoking, I believe that whatever is done to smokers by the Tobacco Control lobbyists applying their noose of Government regulation, is done to me. Tobacco Control is part of a wider plan in our world, it's not just about tobacco - it's about taming the people. It's about the politics of power.</span></span><br /><span style="background-color: white; color: #15255b;"><br /></span><span style="background-color: white; color: #15255b;">I shall NOT be a tame </span>vaper<span style="background-color: white; color: #15255b;">. I am first and foremost, a SMOKER.</span><br /><span style="color: #15255b;"><span style="background-color: white;"><br /></span></span><span style="color: #15255b;"><span style="background-color: white;">I will not become a tame <b>person</b>, accepting of my repression so that my rulers may manipulate me into conforming to <b>their</b> will.&nbsp;</span></span><br /><span style="color: #15255b;"><span style="background-color: white;"><br /></span></span><span style="color: #15255b;"><span style="background-color: white;">Smoking is not filthy habit that needs eradication. Smokers smoke for their own personal healing - for a thousand different reasons. Smoking should be made safer by the use of natural tobacco and legislation against the harmful additives put into commercial cigarettes. The biggest failing of Tobacco Control is prohibition without ever considering what smoking does for society, or making certain that cigarettes are strong, real and satisfying. But</span></span><span style="background-color: white; color: #15255b;">&nbsp;compliant, fearful and feeble citizens are the desired product for any developing totalitarian society.</span><br /><span style="background-color: white; color: #15255b;"><br /></span><span style="background-color: white; color: #15255b;"><br /></span>vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-14550360062137886462017-04-12T10:49:00.000+01:002017-04-12T10:49:38.672+01:00The wolf in sheep's clothing - Tobacco Control and other animalsI have ranted against the <b>Tobacco Control Industry</b> in many posts. (Here with capital letters)<br /><br />The <b>Tobacco Control Industry</b>, for me is all the institutions, groups and charities involved with social engineering in all its forms. They are the authors of the purge on smoking.<br /><br />I have an internal dislike of all of it. I physically churn when I think of the smoking ban, the eviction of smokers into the outdoors, the eviction of smokers from outdoors to not the outdoors - but where? The regulations not to smoke in prisons, psychiatric hospitals, and even rented homes, cars, airports, train stations hospital grounds, beaches even.<br /><br />And the long lists of other places.<br /><br />I am not a smoker anymore. I vape, but I think like a smoker.<br /><br />I am watching how tobacco control in all its forms is morphing vaping. And vapers. Many vapers are just holier than thou ex-smokers spewing out tobacco control mantras and buying in to the harm reduction idea. Vapers are not EX-smokers, to me. Vapers are smokers that vape instead of smoking.<br /><br />Vapers are smokers that vape instead.<br /><br />And as such, I feel, we should be concerned with tobacco control which is a wolf in sheep's clothing for us too. We need the same illumination about the idea of tobacco control. It's the IDEA that upsets me.<br /><br />It is <b>Totalitarianism</b> - protecting people from what is observed by our betters as "bad". It is patriarchy - obsessive and discriminatory. Tyrannical. It is controlling, not so much of tobacco, but of <b><u>people</u></b>. Tobacco control is about manipulating people.<div><br /></div><div>Tobacco control has made a monstrous uniformity of thinking in our society. It's a cultural construct and from the very start it has had an agenda to groom us by fear and guilt and shame.</div><div><br /></div><div>Not smoking is an &nbsp;idea promoted to be a collective idea - it removes personal responsibility from the individual to voluntary engage in the problem of smoking, by legislation. It makes non smokers feel safe from the deliberately constructed idea that second hand smoke is dangerous to them.</div><div><br /></div><div>It has been a violent forcing of people to conform to an ideology, by poisoning their ideas. I'm not joking about this. You should hear the vicious rhetoric against smokers (and vapers) by the puppets of tobacco control ideas on the Internet.</div><div><br /></div><div>Smokers are prey to legislated montrousness. Vapers - be prepared for the same.</div><div><br /></div><div>The press are muffled into silence by political correctness - there is no defence of smokers, nor any consideration of them. Smoking/smokers always have negative press. Have you noticed the same about vaping recently? That's the wolf at work.</div><div><br /></div><div>Never underestimate the wolf. It has guile beyond imagination!</div><div><br /></div><div>You will realise how sick our society is when a story like this hits all the front pages of the newspapers.<b> <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/11/nurses-grant-dying-man-final-wish-cigarette-glass-wine" target="_blank">"<span style="color: #333333; font-family: &quot;Guardian Egyptian Web&quot;, &quot;Guardian Text Egyptian Web&quot;, Georgia, serif; text-align: center;">Nurses grant dying man final wish – a cigarette and glass of wine"</span></a></b></div><div><br /></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><span style="color: #333333; font-family: &quot;Guardian Text Egyptian Web&quot;, Georgia, serif;">A man has been granted his dying wish of a cigarette and a glass of white wine by staff at a hospital in Denmark.</span></blockquote>The Tobacco Control Industry has removed your right to be free. You have to be "granted" your behaviour.<br /><br />THAT is why I think the <b>Tobacco Control Industry</b> is an evil, sinister thing.vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-76503905548231803552017-04-01T15:04:00.001+01:002017-04-01T15:04:58.480+01:00JacVapour S22 tank<iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="270" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/SnL2JqWl9hE" width="480"></iframe>vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-7436696999819989912017-03-25T13:40:00.001+00:002017-03-25T22:28:52.631+00:00The friends of your enemies are not your friendsAs a smoker who smoked for fifty years, I was emotionally traumatised by the actions of the new so called Tobacco Control industry that arose about twenty years ago in my life when I was first confronted by it in the UK.<br /><br />Before that I was living in Africa - I smoked Rothmans. People could smoke anywhere. You either smoked, or you didn't smoke. But there were a growing number of people in my work - teaching - who didn't smoke. They didn't like "the smell". They just got disgruntled, when, in a meeting, they had to endure it. So we smoked before or after a meeting at their request. To me, that seemed reasonable.<br /><br />Suddenly doctor's waiting rooms, dentists and so forth "requested" people not to smoke in the waiting room. There were signs that did the requesting. So we smoked before or after visiting the doctor.<br /><br />I have two memories of this time in Africa as a mum with kids. May I remind you that parents smoked, or didn't smoke. We both smoked, my husband and I, in our own home - always. It would have appeared insane to "go outside" for a cigarette. Our children are middle aged now - none of them ever suffered from the horrors we are told second hand smoke causes. But that's beside the point.<br /><br />Back to my memories.<br /><br />Memory One. The specialist told me to wait for him at the main door of the children's ward where one of our kids was in quarantine for a scary, nasty, life-threatening infection. So I waited patiently at the door and finished my cigarette, tossing it into the sandbox especially there for cigarette butts. Sandboxes outside hospitals were ubiquitous then, as a consideration to smokers. Suddenly the doctor arrived with his white coat open and flying in the wind, in a real hurry. He was drawing on a cigarette as hard as he could to finish it before we had to go inside. He threw the butt away in the sandbox. Now there were two butts - mine - a Rothmans filter - and his - a plain Texan - the most ferocious fag you could get at the time. I wondered where HE smoked at his rooms.<br /><br />Memory Two. Our family doctor was a laugh. Once when I was laughing at a joke he told, he looked at me seriously and said "You have a smoker's laugh. One day that will be how your death rattle sounds". Scary idea that, don't you think? It freaked me out. And probably true. Our family doctor was not a smoker. He was not old. He was a really good guy in the traditional "family doctor" (now forgotten) way. We had only just arrived in the UK nearly twenty years ago now, when I was shocked to hear he had died - of lung cancer. I've always wondered whether HIS death rattle would sound any different to mine.<br /><br />When we arrived in the UK, we had a favourite coffee shop in the town we lived in. They served fantastic coffee and they had a smoking section. We were good customers. One day, I remember arriving there in the grey drizzle of a horrid English day, to find the smoking section gone, and smokers "requested" to smoke outside. That was my last visit. I drank coffee at home from then on.<br /><br />That was my first experience of discrimination in the UK at a restaurant. But before that, anti smokers flapped their hands around or were rude to you about your smoking. I found that unpleasant but understandable. I've never been a Pub goer but Pubs were places of friendliness and smokers. But, like an unstoppable tsunami, the tide changed against smokers.<br /><br />Suddenly smokers had to have smoking rooms. These places were hideous even to us smokers for they were not properly ventilated - just odd places constructed by employers doing it on the cheap to comply with the law. One particular "smoking room" I had to use once on a course in Bradford, was the 1910 unaltered and unused men's urinal that stank of urine - and smoke. How disgusting was that? It was disgusting, because it was physically disgusting and disgusting in the attitude of the employer to his employees.<br /><br />In 2007 the smoking ban was passed in the UK Parliament. It was SUPPOSED to consider smokers - but at the last minute it was changed and pushed through deviously by the Tobacco Control Industry. It banned <b>all</b> indoor smoking except in a place considered as your "home" - like your hotel room, prisons, etc.<br /><br />By the Tobacco Control Industry I mean the over-ruling organisation called Tobacco Control, all their spawns, like charities that lobby government on their behalf, supported by government funding - how corrupt is that?!, that are ruling us.<br /><br />These people - all of them, are the ones that have conspired to purposefully and with clear intent to reconfigure society to hate smokers and to be complicit in giving them NO CONSIDERATION in any way.<br /><br />Think about that. Do you know of any other organisation that has the freedom to push governments world wide, to introduce new laws that work AGAINST their own citizens? Yes? Any?<br /><br />Do you know of any organisation with a focused intention to rid the world of a specific group of people?<br /><br />Now, as a vaper, I see them STILL at work. I have been abused as a smoker. I see I am going to be abused as a vaper.<br /><br />My enemy has been Tobacco Control in all its forms. Tobacco Control has to be stopped because it has already abused society by manipulating it in a way that should ring alarm bells in everyone's heads. Society manipulated is a terrifying idea - imagine - manipulation, grooming, re-structuring, re-assembled to the specification of a small group intent on the destruction of another group.<br /><br />If Tobacco Control was called LGBTQ Control, I would be against it too.<br /><br />For vapers, I am warning - as I have done in the past - Tobacco Control is the enemy. Any friend of the enemy is NOT our friend. And anyone that talks in any way about the desired endgame of Tobacco Control which is smokercide has been conscripted by the enemy.<br /><br />Vapercide is on the way!vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-37325614622942155442017-03-24T15:37:00.000+00:002017-03-24T15:37:23.504+00:00Nautilus 2 Review<div style="text-align: left;">Here is a record of my struggles with Nautilus 2. Now into the third video "My Nautilus 2 Review" and I'm disappointed!&nbsp;</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe width="320" height="266" class="YOUTUBE-iframe-video" data-thumbnail-src="https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IIAxYcvNziM/0.jpg" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/IIAxYcvNziM?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe width="320" height="266" class="YOUTUBE-iframe-video" data-thumbnail-src="https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xshB0_cRS_o/0.jpg" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/xshB0_cRS_o?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe width="320" height="266" class="YOUTUBE-iframe-video" data-thumbnail-src="https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OWoljRzbEjc/0.jpg" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/OWoljRzbEjc?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><li class="channels-content-item yt-shelf-grid-item yt-uix-shelfslider-item compact-shelf-view-all-card" style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-block; font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 0px; height: 108px; margin: 0px 10px 0px 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: top; width: 196px; word-wrap: break-word;"></li>vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-50761600248045867282017-03-07T12:19:00.001+00:002017-03-07T12:19:26.306+00:00About flavourings and mixing your own eliquid<iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="270" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/dPYeT8fvhn0" width="480"></iframe>vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-67830820770117871232017-03-06T13:13:00.001+00:002017-03-06T13:13:18.265+00:00Vaping for the over seventies! Vaper's tongue and other stuff<iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="270" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/___f3IJuWL0" width="480"></iframe>vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-3156083316312737432017-02-18T13:35:00.001+00:002017-02-18T13:36:39.840+00:00Two old videos - one serious and the other after 5 months of vaping!<iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="344" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/bOvLbr-093g" width="459"></iframe><br /><br />Oh dear, I don't KNOW what hapenned here! I tried to improve the sound of the first video, and somehow it got hooked up with a video I've never seen before! - me after 5 months of vaping. At least I look enthusiastic in it! What a laugh. How annoying.<br /><br />And then, YouTube posted this all over social media as if I'd only just made it. What a pest.<br /><br />The thoughts in the first video are still valid today. It was posted in 2015, and the second in 2011.vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-38078052639314094322017-02-17T14:44:00.001+00:002017-02-17T14:44:58.368+00:00Vegetable glycerine and other stuff<iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="344" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/F3cfkeQGRtU" width="459"></iframe>vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-80373153088186097792017-02-15T17:09:00.001+00:002017-02-15T17:09:27.272+00:00The Age of Control<iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="270" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/O7YCg120NhI" width="480"></iframe>vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-90995967100049082152017-01-12T19:39:00.000+00:002017-01-12T19:44:38.868+00:00Hope? Hope? What the hell it that?Good god! These guys got funding to do this study?<br /><h3 style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: &quot;Lucida Grande&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 14px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Authors</h3><div class="auths" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #272727; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/?term=Popova%20L%5BAuthor%5D&amp;sort=ac&amp;from=/28071144/ac" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; text-decoration: none;">Popova L</a><sup style="box-sizing: border-box;">1</sup>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/?term=So%20J%5BAuthor%5D&amp;sort=ac&amp;from=/28071144/ac" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; text-decoration: none;">So J</a><sup style="box-sizing: border-box;">2</sup>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/?term=Sangalang%20A%5BAuthor%5D&amp;sort=ac&amp;from=/28071144/ac" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; text-decoration: none;">Sangalang A</a><sup style="box-sizing: border-box;">3</sup>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/?term=Neilands%20TB%5BAuthor%5D&amp;sort=ac&amp;from=/28071144/ac" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; text-decoration: none;">Neilands TB</a><sup style="box-sizing: border-box;">4</sup>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/?term=Ling%20PM%5BAuthor%5D&amp;sort=ac&amp;from=/28071144/ac" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; text-decoration: none;">Ling PM</a><sup style="box-sizing: border-box;">4</sup>.<br /><div class="exi" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-top: 6px;"><h3 style="box-sizing: border-box; color: black; font-family: &quot;Lucida Grande&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 14px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Author information</h3><ul style="box-sizing: border-box; list-style-type: none; margin: 2px 0px; padding-left: 0px;"><li style="box-sizing: border-box; padding-left: 10px; position: relative; text-indent: -6px;"><sup style="box-sizing: border-box; left: -4px; position: relative;">1</sup>1 Georgia State University, Atlanta, GA, USA.</li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; padding-left: 10px; position: relative; text-indent: -6px;"><sup style="box-sizing: border-box; left: -4px; position: relative;">2</sup>2 University of Georgia, Athens, GA, USA.</li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; padding-left: 10px; position: relative; text-indent: -6px;"><sup style="box-sizing: border-box; left: -4px; position: relative;">3</sup>3 University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, PA, USA.</li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; padding-left: 10px; position: relative; text-indent: -6px;"><sup style="box-sizing: border-box; left: -4px; position: relative;">4</sup>4 University of California, San Francisco, CA, USA.</li></ul><div style="text-indent: -6px;"><br /></div><blockquote class="tr_bq" style="text-indent: -6px;"><span style="font-size: 16px; text-indent: 0px;">&gt;&gt;&gt;adult nonsmokers and current smokers viewed advertisements for moist snuff, snus, and electronic cigarettes (e-cigarettes) with various warning labels and then indicated their emotional responses in terms of anger, anxiety, sadness, guilt, disgust, discouragement, hope, and contentment. Outcomes were openness to using moist snuff, snus, and e-cigarettes in the future and interest in a free sample of each product. Data were analyzed in 2016.</span></blockquote><blockquote class="tr_bq"><span class="sub_abstract_label" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 16px;">RESULTS:&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 16px;"></span><span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 16px;">Hope was positively associated with openness and interest across all alternative tobacco products as was contentment for moist snuff and snus. Anger was negatively associated with openness to moist snuff and e-cigarettes, disgust negatively to moist snuff and snus, and anxiety negatively to e-cigarettes. Being a current smoker, ever trying a corresponding product, being male, and younger age were associated with greater openness to and interest in moist snuff and snus. For e-cigarettes, being a current smoker, ever trying e-cigarettes, and being female were associated with greater openness, and being a current smoker was associated with greater odds of selecting a free sample.</span></blockquote><blockquote class="tr_bq">&nbsp;<span class="sub_abstract_label" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 16px;">CONCLUSIONS:&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 16px;"></span><span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 16px;">Positive emotions, particularly hope, were consistently positively associated with interest in alternative tobacco products. Hope is widely used by tobacco and e-cigarette companies to advertise their products. Antitobacco messages should aim to lower hope associated with tobacco products but increase hope for cessation or life without tobacco.</span></blockquote></div></div>Link here <br /><h2 class="title" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: &quot;Lucida Grande&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 18px; line-height: 24px; margin: 8px auto;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/28071144/" target="_blank">Do Emotions Spark Interest in Alternative Tobacco Products?</a></h2><div><br /></div><div><b><span class="sub_abstract_label" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #272727; font-family: &quot;arial&quot;; font-size: 16px;">CONCLUSIONS:&nbsp;</span><span style="background-color: white; color: #272727; font-family: &quot;arial&quot;; font-size: 16px;"></span><span style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #272727; font-family: &quot;arial&quot;; font-size: 16px;">Positive emotions, particularly hope, were <u>consistently positively associated with interest in alternative tobacco products.</u></span></b></div><div><b><span style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #272727; font-family: &quot;arial&quot;; font-size: 16px;"><u><br /></u></span></b></div><div><span style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #272727; font-family: &quot;arial&quot;; font-size: 16px;">I WOULD SAY THAT'S AN EXCELLENT THING! SNUS AND E CIGARETTES COULD HELP A LOT OF PEOPLE!</span></div><div><span style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #272727; font-family: &quot;arial&quot;; font-size: 16px;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #272727; font-family: &quot;arial&quot;; font-size: 16px;">But what is the conclusion?&nbsp;</span><span style="background-color: white; color: #272727; font-family: &quot;arial&quot;; font-size: 16px;"><b>Antitobacco (sic) messages should aim to lower hope associated with tobacco products but<u> increase hope for cessation or life without tobacco.</u></b></span></div><div><span style="background-color: white; color: #272727; font-family: &quot;arial&quot;; font-size: 16px;"><b><u><br /></u></b></span></div><div><span style="background-color: white; color: #272727; font-family: &quot;arial&quot;; font-size: 16px;">So, my questions are -</span></div><div><span style="background-color: white; color: #272727; font-family: &quot;arial&quot;; font-size: 16px;">Why include non-smokers?</span></div><div><span style="background-color: white; color: #272727; font-family: &quot;arial&quot;; font-size: 16px;">What warning labels were on snus and e cigarettes?&nbsp;</span></div><div><span style="background-color: white; color: #272727; font-family: &quot;arial&quot;; font-size: 16px;">What definition did the researchers use to define "hope".</span></div><div><span style="background-color: white; color: #272727; font-family: &quot;arial&quot;; font-size: 16px;">What is "hope" actually.</span></div><div><span style="background-color: white; color: #272727; font-family: &quot;arial&quot;; font-size: 16px;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="background-color: white; color: #272727; font-family: &quot;arial&quot;; font-size: 16px;">I'll tell you MY hope. I hope such dreadful science, will be laughed away.</span></div><div><span style="background-color: white; color: #272727; font-family: &quot;arial&quot;; font-size: 16px;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="background-color: white; color: #272727; font-family: &quot;arial&quot;; font-size: 16px;">But no! These guys have been very,very busy. In fact there are eleven pages of their so called studies and citations - and they have been cited one hundred an one times!</span></div><div><span style="background-color: white; color: #272727; font-family: &quot;arial&quot;; font-size: 16px;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="background-color: white; color: #272727; font-family: &quot;arial&quot;; font-size: 16px;">This is Tobacco Control at work. The mind boggles!<a href="http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/1090198116683169" target="_blank"> Here is the PDF</a></span><br /><br />Here are <b><u>a few</u></b> of &nbsp;the studies done by this crowd (and some citations)</div><div><ul style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #272727; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px; list-style-type: none; margin-left: 0px; padding-left: 0px;"><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-bottom: 0.8em;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/25253295/?i=2&amp;from=/28071144/related" ref="link_id=related_citation" rel="related" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: block; text-decoration: none;">Nonsmokers' responses to new warning labels on smokeless tobacco and electronic cigarettes: an experimental study.</a><span class="jrnl light_narrow_text" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #575757; font-family: &quot;arial narrow&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Popova L, et al. BMC Public Health. 2014.</span></li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-bottom: 0.8em;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26549502/?i=3&amp;from=/28071144/related" ref="link_id=related_citation" rel="related" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: block; text-decoration: none;">Openness to Using Non-cigarette Tobacco Products Among U.S. Young Adults.</a><span class="jrnl light_narrow_text" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #575757; font-family: &quot;arial narrow&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Mays D, et al. Am J Prev Med. 2016.</span></li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-bottom: 0.8em;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23467655/?i=4&amp;from=/28071144/related" ref="link_id=related_citation" rel="related" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: block; text-decoration: none;">Testing messages to reduce smokers' openness to using novel smokeless tobacco products.</a><div class="pub_type" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #375237; font-size: 13px; font-weight: bold;">Randomized controlled trial</div><span class="jrnl light_narrow_text" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #575757; font-family: &quot;arial narrow&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Popova L, et al. Tob Control. 2014.</span></li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-bottom: 0.8em;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/24184647/?i=5&amp;from=/28071144/related" ref="link_id=related_citation" rel="related" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: block; text-decoration: none;">Health risks related to dual use of cigarettes and snus - a systematic review.</a><div class="pub_type" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #375237; font-size: 13px; font-weight: bold;">Review article</div><span class="jrnl light_narrow_text" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #575757; font-family: &quot;arial narrow&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Lee PN, et al. Regul Toxicol Pharmacol. 2014.</span></li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-bottom: 0.8em;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19604066/?i=6&amp;from=/28071144/related" ref="link_id=related_citation" rel="related" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: block; text-decoration: none;">Smokeless tobacco: a gateway to smoking or a way away from smoking.</a><div class="pub_type" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #375237; font-size: 13px; font-weight: bold;">Review article</div><span class="jrnl light_narrow_text" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #575757; font-family: &quot;arial narrow&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Melikian AA, et al. Biomarkers. 2009.</span></li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-bottom: 0.8em;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/28071144/?i=1&amp;from=/28071144/related" ref="linksrc=docsum_title" rel="chapter" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: inline !important; font-size: 16px; text-decoration: none;">Do Emotions Spark Interest in Alternative Tobacco Products?</a></li></ul></div><div><ul class="r" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #272727; font-family: Arial; font-size: 16px; list-style-type: none; margin-left: 0px; padding-left: 0px;"><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0.8em 0px 1.2em;"><span class="aux light_narrow_text" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #575757; font-family: &quot;arial narrow&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Popova L, et al. Health Educ Behav. 2017</span><div style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="avail" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 14px;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/28071144/?i=1&amp;from=/28071144/related#fft" ref="link_id=fft" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: inline; margin-right: 12px; text-decoration: none;">Full text</a></span></div></li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0.8em 0px 1.2em;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/25253295/?i=2&amp;from=/28071144/related" ref="linksrc=docsum_title" rel="chapter" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: block; text-decoration: none;">Nonsmokers' responses to new warning labels on smokeless tobacco and electronic cigarettes: an experimental study.</a><span class="aux light_narrow_text" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #575757; font-family: &quot;arial narrow&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Popova L, et al. BMC Public Health. 2014</span><div style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="avail" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 14px;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/25253295/?i=2&amp;from=/28071144/related#fft" ref="link_id=fft" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: inline; margin-right: 12px; text-decoration: none;">Full text</a></span></div></li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0.8em 0px 1.2em;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26549502/?i=3&amp;from=/28071144/related" ref="linksrc=docsum_title" rel="chapter" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: block; text-decoration: none;">Openness to Using Non-cigarette Tobacco Products Among U.S. Young Adults.</a><span class="aux light_narrow_text" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #575757; font-family: &quot;arial narrow&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Mays D, et al. 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Nicotine Tob Res. 2014</span><div style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="avail" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 14px;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/24376276/?i=21&amp;from=/28071144/related#fft" ref="link_id=fft" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: inline; margin-right: 12px; text-decoration: none;">Full text</a></span></div></li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0.8em 0px 1.2em;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16968353/?i=22&amp;from=/28071144/related" ref="linksrc=docsum_title" rel="chapter" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: block; text-decoration: none;">Cigarettes and oral snuff use in Sweden: Prevalence and transitions.</a><span class="aux light_narrow_text" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #575757; font-family: &quot;arial narrow&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Furberg H, et al. Addiction. 2006</span><div style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="avail" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 14px;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16968353/?i=22&amp;from=/28071144/related#fft" ref="link_id=fft" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: inline; margin-right: 12px; text-decoration: none;">Full text</a></span></div></li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0.8em 0px 1.2em;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26802282/?i=23&amp;from=/28071144/related" ref="linksrc=docsum_title" rel="chapter" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: block; text-decoration: none;">Chemical and toxicological characteristics of conventional and low-TSNA moist snuff tobacco products.</a><span class="aux light_narrow_text" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #575757; font-family: &quot;arial narrow&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Song MA, et al. Toxicol Lett. 2016</span><div style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="avail" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 14px;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26802282/?i=23&amp;from=/28071144/related#fft" ref="link_id=fft" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: inline; margin-right: 12px; text-decoration: none;">Full text</a></span></div></li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0.8em 0px 1.2em;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26046401/?i=24&amp;from=/28071144/related" ref="linksrc=docsum_title" rel="chapter" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: block; text-decoration: none;">Changes in use of cigarettes and non-cigarette alternative products among college students.</a><span class="aux light_narrow_text" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #575757; font-family: &quot;arial narrow&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Loukas A, et al. Addict Behav. 2015</span><div style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="avail" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 14px;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26046401/?i=24&amp;from=/28071144/related#fft" ref="link_id=fft" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: inline; margin-right: 12px; text-decoration: none;">Full text</a></span></div></li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0.8em 0px 1.2em;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12930201/?i=25&amp;from=/28071144/related" ref="linksrc=docsum_title" rel="chapter" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: block; text-decoration: none;">Role of snus (oral moist snuff ) in smoking cessation and smoking reduction in Sweden.</a><span class="aux light_narrow_text" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #575757; font-family: &quot;arial narrow&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Gilljam H, et al. Addiction. 2003</span><div style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="avail" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 14px;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12930201/?i=25&amp;from=/28071144/related#fft" ref="link_id=fft" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: inline; margin-right: 12px; text-decoration: none;">Full text</a></span></div></li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0.8em 0px 1.2em;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/24440684/?i=26&amp;from=/28071144/related" ref="linksrc=docsum_title" rel="chapter" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: block; text-decoration: none;">Multiple tobacco product use among adults in the United States: cigarettes, cigars, electronic cigarettes, hookah, smokeless tobacco, and snus.</a><span class="aux light_narrow_text" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #575757; font-family: &quot;arial narrow&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Lee YO, et al. Prev Med. 2014</span><div style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="avail" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 14px;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/24440684/?i=26&amp;from=/28071144/related#fft" ref="link_id=fft" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: inline; margin-right: 12px; text-decoration: none;">Full text</a></span></div></li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0.8em 0px 1.2em;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21972063/?i=27&amp;from=/28071144/related" ref="linksrc=docsum_title" rel="chapter" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: block; text-decoration: none;">Is snus the same as dip? Smokers' perceptions of new smokeless tobacco advertising.</a><span class="aux light_narrow_text" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #575757; font-family: &quot;arial narrow&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Bahreinifar S, et al. Tob Control. 2013</span><div style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="avail" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 14px;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21972063/?i=27&amp;from=/28071144/related#fft" ref="link_id=fft" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: inline; margin-right: 12px; text-decoration: none;">Full text</a></span></div></li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0.8em 0px 1.2em;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/24379146/?i=28&amp;from=/28071144/related" ref="linksrc=docsum_title" rel="chapter" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: block; text-decoration: none;">Noncombustible tobacco product advertising: how companies are selling the new face of tobacco.</a><span class="aux light_narrow_text" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #575757; font-family: &quot;arial narrow&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Richardson A, et al. Nicotine Tob Res. 2014</span><div style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="avail" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 14px;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/24379146/?i=28&amp;from=/28071144/related#fft" ref="link_id=fft" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: inline; margin-right: 12px; text-decoration: none;">Full text</a></span></div></li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0.8em 0px 1.2em;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26473006/?i=29&amp;from=/28071144/related" ref="linksrc=docsum_title" rel="chapter" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: block; text-decoration: none;">The acrylamide content of smokeless tobacco products.</a><span class="aux light_narrow_text" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #575757; font-family: &quot;arial narrow&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">McAdam K, et al. Chem Cent J. 2015</span><div style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="avail" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 14px;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26473006/?i=29&amp;from=/28071144/related#fft" ref="link_id=fft" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: inline; margin-right: 12px; text-decoration: none;">Full text</a></span></div></li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0.8em 0px 1.2em;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/27020059/?i=30&amp;from=/28071144/related" ref="linksrc=docsum_title" rel="chapter" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: block; text-decoration: none;">The Case to Include Brand of Moist Snuff in Health Surveys.</a><span class="aux light_narrow_text" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #575757; font-family: &quot;arial narrow&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Timberlake DS, et al. Nicotine Tob Res. 2016</span><div style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="avail" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 14px;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/27020059/?i=30&amp;from=/28071144/related#fft" ref="link_id=fft" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #4747c0; display: inline; margin-right: 12px; text-decoration: none;">Full text</a></span></div></li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0.8em 0px 1.2em;"><div style="box-sizing: border-box;">And ON and ON and ON.......</div></li></ul></div></div></li><li style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0.8em 0px 1.2em;"><div class="pag" style="box-sizing: border-box; overflow: hidden; padding: 10px 0px; position: relative;"><br /></div></li></ul></div></div><div><span style="background-color: white; color: #272727; font-family: &quot;arial&quot;; font-size: 16px;"><br /></span></div>vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-16905860972667822912016-12-30T15:21:00.003+00:002016-12-30T15:21:47.568+00:002017 wishesBest wishes for 2017 - as vapers, we need it yes?<br /><br />Here is my latest video. I could have written it - but you've heard it all before!<br /><br />So I said it instead<br /><br /><iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="270" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/qPtrAs2XWNY" width="480"></iframe>vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-4363461126975294302016-11-25T20:44:00.000+00:002016-11-25T20:44:23.497+00:00This is how its done folks - spreading untrue/true lies.I have been very depressed about the constant untruths spread by the anti-tobacco industry to undermine vaping. I've even stopped reading stuff with ANY negative content. It simply goes on, and on and on. Information about vaping is rolled out that simply isn't TRUE! How can untrue information be spread as if it is the truth?<br /><br />Make no mistake, vapers' enemies are also the enemies of smokers. The group that have set out to persecute smokers is the anti tobacco industry. What do I mean by the anti tobacco industry? I mean the conglomeration of all charitable/governmental/World Health Organisation's spawns that have set out, with intent, to stamp out smoking world wide by hook of by crook (mostly crook) and profit from it. &nbsp;And anti tobacco is vicious. If you believe any of them are our friends, you have lost sight of the fact that our whole predicament exists because of their attitude to smokers.<br /><br />I repeat - vapers' whole predicament exists because of anti tobacco's attitude to <b><u>smokers.</u></b><br /><br />I might be a vaper, but at heart, I'm a smoker and I havent forgotten the persecution and victimisation I have endured in my life from the anti tobacco industry. And they have spread misinformation and lies about smoking from the very start. Their methods verge on the criminal. The legislations that have stemmed from the anti smoking lobby groups, here in the UK have altered the whole of social society and our economy, and opened the door for young people to experiment, not with smoking, as we did in the old days, but with drugs instead.<br /><br />So I have wondered to myself, how is untruth spread? Why is it there seems more untruth, than truth in the Press about vaping. Where has the truth gone? Why is untruth predominant? It's almost like a conspiracy happening before my eyes.<br /><br />Well, the other day, someone posted this link (below) on a forum I belong to. It's not a vaping forum. So this article is not about vaping, but about politics and TRUTH! I found it quite disgusting, ethically and morally. It repulsed me. The writer of this article that repelled me, tells us, proudly, how he faked &nbsp;reports and information during the recent election in the USA and spread them over social media, to the point that they were mentioned by the media - and even Hilliary Clinton herself. And noticed by Russia. The blow-by-blow account you may read about here -<br /><br /><a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/21/i-ve-been-making-viral-fake-news-for-the-last-six-months-it-s-way-too-easy-to-dupe-the-right-on-the-internet.html?utm_source=fark&amp;utm_medium=website&amp;utm_content=link&amp;ICID=ref_fark" target="_blank"><b>I’ve Been Making Viral Fake News for the Last Six Months. It’s Way Too Easy to Dupe the Right on the Internet.</b></a><br /><br />This is how people's brains are being infected by irresponsible, immoral groups/single persons/ideology promoters.<br /><br />And I wouldn't be surprised if the enemy of smokers that is our enemy too, aka the anti tobacco industry, is perfectly able to use these tactics too. So do not believe everything you read on the Internet, or in the Press - there are untrue/true lies out there!<br /><br />I find my old fire of protest has burnt low, I don't do rousing blogs, or attempt to inspire "the troops" any more.<br /><br />I've given up.<br /><br />vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-84138241647092539022016-10-02T20:32:00.000+01:002016-10-02T20:32:34.308+01:00Theresa May MP: Repeal the TPD regulations concerning E-cigarettes in the UK.Clive Bates has just published a post<br /><br /><h1 style="background-color: white; color: maroon; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; line-height: 1.2; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><a href="http://www.clivebates.com/?p=4412" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: small;">New Nicotine Alliance calls for repeal of EU e-cigarette regulation and snus ban</span></a></h1><blockquote class="tr_bq"><span style="background-color: white; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 14.4px;">New Nicotine Alliance proposes that the forthcoming Great Repeal Act is used to repeal&nbsp;pointless, burdensome and restrictive&nbsp;EU regulation of e-cigarettes and to lift the illegal, unethical and anti-scientific ban on snus. &nbsp;This may be a ‘quick win’&nbsp;from Brexit at the point of the departure of the UK from the EU. &nbsp;The government will need to show that there are at least some benefits.</span></blockquote>and published his letter to Jeremy Hunt<br /><br />And I have just signed this petition - please do so too - and share, share, share<br /><br /><div align="left" style="background-color: white; color: #4b4f4f; font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 20px; margin-bottom: 10px;">Hello,</div><div align="left" style="background-color: white; color: #4b4f4f; font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 20px; margin-bottom: 10px;">I just signed the petition, "Theresa May MP: Repeal the TPD regulations concerning E-cigarettes in the UK."</div><blockquote class="tr_bq" style="background-color: white; color: #4b4f4f; font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 20px; margin-bottom: 10px;"><div style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #363135; font-family: &quot;Change Calibre&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, Helvetica, Arial, Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 20px;">We are asking Theresa May and the UK Government to repeal the TPD regulations affecting E-Cigarettes and remove them from UK law. Vaping is helping millions quit cigarettes and we should not let policy makers in the EU jeopardise that. Obviously we need some sort of regulation but lets urge the Health Dept. to adopt a policy that helps rather than hinders people's attempts to quit smoking. Following Brexit, the UK has the opportunity to adopt a more sensible approach to vaping regulations and voting for change at the very least will bring this to the attention of those in power.&nbsp;</div><div style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #363135; font-family: &quot;Change Calibre&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, Helvetica, Arial, Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 20px; margin-top: 1.5em;">Please sign even if you think petitions don't work, it only takes a minute to do.</div></blockquote><div align="left" style="background-color: white; color: #4b4f4f; font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 20px; margin-bottom: 10px;">I think this is important. Will you sign it too?</div><div align="left" style="background-color: white; color: #4b4f4f; font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 20px; margin-bottom: 10px;">Here's the link:</div><div align="left" class="m_-3122811173674474453word-wrap-and-word-break" style="background-color: white; color: #4b4f4f; font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 20px; margin-bottom: 10px; word-break: break-word; word-wrap: break-word;"><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?hl=en-GB&amp;q=http://click.exacttarget.change.org/?qs%3D56fc608e7b1c50999b9cf8011132b5c0fddf09df485d9a1e4c360bbf5d9db916b8608c880b25d9b8&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1475521670926000&amp;usg=AFQjCNHWGK0UXDOqDaRh5P-lzRVmPiV45w" href="http://click.exacttarget.change.org/?qs=56fc608e7b1c50999b9cf8011132b5c0fddf09df485d9a1e4c360bbf5d9db916b8608c880b25d9b8" style="color: #ed2d23;" target="_blank">https://www.change.org/p/<wbr></wbr>theresa-may-mp-repeal-the-tpd-<wbr></wbr>regulations-concerning-e-<wbr></wbr>cigarettes-in-the-uk</a></div><div align="left" style="background-color: white; color: #4b4f4f; font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 20px; margin-bottom: 10px;">Thanks,</div><div align="left" style="background-color: white; color: #4b4f4f; font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 20px; margin-bottom: 10px;">Vapingpoint</div><div align="left" style="background-color: white; color: #4b4f4f; font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 20px; margin-bottom: 10px;"><br /></div><div align="left" style="background-color: white; color: #4b4f4f; font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 20px; margin-bottom: 10px;">And when that is done - we need to re-asses the Smoking Bans too. But that's another matter.</div>vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-25776253709635455112016-09-29T09:20:00.003+01:002016-09-29T09:20:54.568+01:00"Beyond the Cloud" Documentary on Vaping - subtitled<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe width="320" height="266" class="YOUTUBE-iframe-video" data-thumbnail-src="https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7cghFuqhU_o/0.jpg" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7cghFuqhU_o?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></div><br />vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-47431849106001183342016-08-31T15:37:00.001+01:002016-08-31T15:37:02.584+01:00Waffling, - looking for something new<iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="270" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/A-mRxxeGZ0g" width="480"></iframe>vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-56207294565129450422016-08-30T09:48:00.000+01:002016-08-30T10:05:13.270+01:00The road back to a sane vaping and smoking society<span style="font-family: inherit;">What is the road back to a sane society that accepts vapers and vaping, smokers and smoking?<br /><br />As an older person - well, old actually, - seventy two in September, I have watched how the world has changed.<br /><br />I have knowledge that young people don't have. They only think they have it! &nbsp;But experientially, they know nothing. They only know what they have been told to know.<br /><br />And young people simply take for granted the absence of things that were, once, BAD things, like Polio, Smallpox, and Tuberculosis for instance. Things that I remember. In this respect, we have been blessed by the work done by science to make life safer for all of us. There has been great progress.<br /><br />At the beginning of my life the Pharmaceutical Companies were very small - insignificant really, except for Bayer which enriched itself producing the lethal gas Zyklon B for the German Concentration Camps. The labour force for IG Farben was slave labour in factories that it built adjacent to German concentration camps.<br /><br />Chemists and Pharmacies mixed their own medications for sick people, and doctors knew more about healing than they do nowadays.<br /><br />"Nevertheless, at the start of the 1930s, most medicines were sold without a prescription and nearly half were compounded locally by pharmacists. In many cases, physicians dispensed medicines directly to patients; companies often supplied physicians with their favorite formulations. While the medical profession was well-established in Europe and America, the pharmaceutical industry was only beginning to develop medicines to treat pain, infectious diseases, heart conditions, and other ailments."&nbsp;<a href="https://pubs.acs.org/cen/coverstory/83/8325/8325emergence.html">Link </a><br /><br />There were mixtures and pills that were made by small companies, but none of them had the power, the profitability or the clout that they do now. Except for the aforsaid IG Farben Group, which got rich by getting into bed with the German Government. They were at a great advantage of being able to experiment on the occupants of Concentration Camps. <a href="http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/PHARMACEUTICAL_BUSINESS/history_of_the_pharmaceutical_industry.htm">Link</a><br /><br />So, the benefit of using experimental evidence became clear to Medicine-in-general and Drug Companies in particular and after World War Two, Pharmaceutical Companies relied heavily on science - especially "double blinded" experiments. Vaccination and anti-biotics had been discovered and new technology helped in medical laboratories. Soon the Medical profession accepted "science based medicine".<br /><br />And Government legislation entered the scene - The Food and Drugs Administration in the USA and less stringent regulation in Europe setting formal standards for drug testing and manufacture and&nbsp;"distinguished over-the-counter therapies from prescription drugs. This division, in turn, drove further specialization by the pharmaceutical industry into high-profit prescription-only medicines."&nbsp;<a href="https://pubs.acs.org/cen/coverstory/83/8325/8325golden.html">Link</a><br /><br />The Pharmaceutical Industry used some very unsavoury tactics to increase their profits, and designed products for specially profitable groups of people. Most of this was done in secret and their sales were directed at doctors/ medical profession, and their new mates, the Ministry of Health/ Public Health aka Government departments. Illness became big business.<br /><br />"Whereas it made sense to speak of an American, German, French, or British drug company as recently as a decade ago, mergers and greater cross-national R&amp;D investments have since rendered such delineation largely irrelevant. Between 1985 and 2005, nearly 40 major mergers produced firms of an unprecedented size and scope in the pharmaceutical industry."<a href="https://pubs.acs.org/cen/coverstory/83/8325/8325market.html"> Link</a><br /><br />This is "Big Pharma". Big Pharma, for all it's present and past failings, has made life better.<br /><br />From the beginning of last century, simultaneously, there was the rise of Big Tobacco. By the time I was born "25 to 35 percent (of women) smoked in the late 1940s and peaked at around 30 to 35 percent in the early 1960s"&nbsp;<a href="http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Tobacco_Industry.aspx">Link</a><br /><br />and most men smoked (75%). People smoked everywhere. Smoking was a most profitable social behaviour for Big Tobacco. And Big Tobacco was profitable for Governments. And profitable for Big Pharma too. Lung cancer was on the rise. Smoking was the cause said <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2007/jun/30/comment.badscience">Doll and Hill</a>. They got the idea from numerous German studies done for Adolf Hitler, an ex-smoker who hated smoking. And the fact that Allied soldiers were given tobacco/cigarette rations in both World Wars boosted the habit of smoking in men.<br /><br />In 1962 Royal College of Physicians of London and the 1964 report of the Surgeon General warning the American public of the dangers of smoking made loads of people stop smoking. I remember that. Lots of educated - and not-so-educated people stopped smoking. There was no "Tobacco Control", legislation, or force. But people stopped smoking out of their own logic.<br /><br />The first World Conference on Smoking and Health was held in New York. The second in London. The new United Nations World Health Organisation that rose out of the ashes of war was finding its feet, became interested in the issue of smoking. These organisations, together with the health departments of different countries, realised that l</span>ung cancer was depressingly difficult to treat so the Medical Profession was of the opinion that to control its suspected source (tobacco) rather than constantly fail in its treatment would be a good thing. T<span style="font-family: inherit;">o control the Tobacco Industry, it needed impetus from everyone - all sources interested in health under one roof - the United Nations birthed Tobacco Control. "The WHO Framework Convention on Tobacco Control (WHO FCTC) is the pre-eminent global tobacco control instrument."&nbsp;</span><a href="http://www.who.int/gho/tobacco/en/" style="font-family: inherit;">Link</a><br /><br />At first, it was more about the Tobacco Industry, and less about smokers.<br /><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br />But, recently (in historical terms, and in terms of MY life), there has sprung up a whole industry around Tobacco Control - a self sustaining industry, to improve the conditions of human life that has overridden democracy and sovereignty and had consequences world wide by its costly parasitical &nbsp;relationship with governments. &nbsp;</span><br /><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: inherit;">In its short life - just over ten years, The Tobacco Control Directive, has deformed into an ugly thing. A thing that intrudes into all aspects of everyone's life - outdoors and indoors, publicly and privately, and, more significantly, into the minds of the people - to infect them deliberately with guilt and fear. To manipulate, not just the Tobacco Industry, but every person who smoked/smokes and every person who didn't/doesn't. <br /><br />Thus arrived to my world the imposition upon me, not of my own mind or choice, not for my education, not with anything considering the personal "me" but to FORCE me - force me via legislation to stop smoking. Smoking, smokers, were to be erased from history. Eliminated. A sophisticated genocide. Even the press colluded by not publishing anything about the anguish of smokers or the habit of smoking and photo shopped&nbsp;smoking out of press pictures. The BBC&nbsp;now&nbsp;produce movies about the war, or the 1960's that are completely&nbsp;unauthentic because no one smokes in them. &nbsp;And the erasing of the smoking habit from public knowledge continues&nbsp;ad nauseum - especially hiding it from children.</span><br /><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: inherit;">The world has changed now. It has become anal, divided and prescribed - censored. Young people will not know the difference, but old people - even non smokers - know it, taste it, feel it, fear it.<br /><br />It harbours all the horrible ideas that we find in Nineteen Eighty Four - the book by George Orwell. It's worth watching this funny old movie <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajWC_J-jgLc">Nineteen Eighty Four</a>, to understand a summary of it for those who don't read. (The newest version seems unobtainable on You Tube for UK viewers.)</span><br /><div><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br />"And when memory failed and written records were falsified—when that<br />happened, the claim of the Party to have improved the conditions<br />of human life had got to be accepted, because there did not exist,<br />and never again could exist, any standard against which it could<br />be tested...﻿"<br />― <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/3706.George_Orwell">George Orwell</a>, <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/153313">1984</a><br /><br />Human life was far more spontaneous, fulfilled, socially cohesive, less anxious, more creative and could I say happy? before Tobacco Control strove to change us.<br /><br />The WHO Framework Convention on Tobacco Control is a template. It's an example of world domination by the few over the many. It is the way we can expect our health to be delivered in the future - by force. It is the way that perfectly legal things, in use by many, can be made unacceptable. And a strange new form of discrimination is evolving before our eyes, that is encouraged by governments, and government bodies against their own citizens. Anything goes - banning, exclusion, abuse. Any treatment is good - taxation, fines, defacement of product. &nbsp;Any persecution of smokers/vapers is simply accepted by the docile mass because what smokers/vapers "do" is BAD. <br /><br />So what is the road back to a sane society? Well, for me, the first step was the successful energy- inducing, empowering, heady, Brexit vote in the United Kingdom. We, the people, spoke. <br /><br />This does not release us from the domination of the EU because the UK is a signatory to the Framework Convention on Tobacco Control.<br /><br />But it's a start. <br /><br />I hear rumours that UKIP are requesting a re-assessment of the smoking ban. The smoking ban was adopted by parliament in 2007 on a political ruse by ASH - a UK Tobacco Control spawn. If&nbsp;</span>a re-assessment of the smoking ban thing<span style="font-family: inherit;">&nbsp;is true, I will put my vote&nbsp;behind UKIP. If the present government does not exit the EU to our wishes, the next election could see a huge swing to UKIP, or whatever party it morphs into.<br /><br />So the way back to a saner society, is to use our voting power. And to demand a reassessment of the smoking ban.<br /><br />Vapers and smokers need to function together, Those who interfere with Vaping are the very SAME Tobacco Control enforcers abusing smokers. They have come for us too!<br /><br />The way back to a saner society, is to expose all the collaborators with Tobacco Control, the ones working to implement The Tobacco Control Directive. We need to expose them one by one, as corrupt institutions feeding off governments, for their own benefit. Lobbying always for their own advancement. They are not producing a product like the Pharmaceutical Industry, or (the still) successful Tobacco Industry. They produce nothing but ideas of prohibition by force - the control of a few over the many. They are gross feeders on our economy. We need to speak out. We need to expose the unintended consequences of <a href="http://intpolicydigest.org/2016/08/27/australia-s-cigarette-wars-turn-violent/" target="_blank">Tobacco Control foolishness</a>&nbsp;like this in Australia. We need to speak out for the 20% of people who smoke.</span></div><div><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br />“Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.” <br />― <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/3706.George_Orwell">George Orwell</a>, <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/153313">1984</a></span><br /><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: inherit;">Our minds have been torn apart. Society has been made to forget that the real evil is in the subjugation of our minds to an ideology in which any oppressive action against a few people is acceptable - nay - desireable even.</span></div><div><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /> “If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.” <br />― <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/3706.George_Orwell">George Orwell</a>, <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/153313">1984</a><br /><br />We do not need boots stomping on any faces - smokers and vapers need consideration, not boots. Vapers will not get consideration, until smokers have it. It is not the 1960's anymore. We have more knowledge via the Internet than we have ever had before. Even the "lowest classes" know that smoking can be harmful. We have helpful cigarette substitution technology in vaping and we have grown up. We need not rail against Big Pharma, Big Tobacco, Big Food, Big Sugar, or any other Biggies. We need to rail against Healthism by force. And expose new industries, like Tobacco Control especially (because it is the template for others), for what they are - outdated, costly leeches of the most arrogant, obnoxious - and DANGEROUS&nbsp;kind.&nbsp;</span></div>vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-80443275680371270602016-08-26T22:49:00.000+01:002016-08-26T22:49:31.942+01:00My private vaping lifeI can hardly bring myself to write this blog any more.<br /><br />My private vaping life is very happy. But I can hardly think about it in the big picture of the "world out there" without getting distressed.<br /><br />The "world out there" has gone bonkers!<br /><br />In the "world out there", I am feeling more and more disappointed and out of step, out of touch, and disillusioned.<br /><br />The first thing I see is that vaping itself, is running away from me. It's&nbsp;hooked into consumerism.<br /><br />I've always hated the idea that us humans are taken advantage of by people who promote "the latest version" or "the latest fashion" and all the one-upmanship that humans are silly enough to want.<br /><br />Every day, there is a new tank, a new box-mod, and a myriad of "new" devices &nbsp;that are not much different to all the others out there. &nbsp;I cannot keep up! What do these things offer us? They offer more vapour at higher wattages on different wires, or easier to build atomisers. But basically they are all the same.<br /><br />I don't buy them! &nbsp;I stick to the setup that has given me pleasure, however old fashioned it is. Why does our pleasure change - do we think we can get more pleasure if we get the latest stuff? So I'm disappointed that vaping has become a huge operation to part us from our money when what we already have satisfies most of us already.<br /><br />We are now pushing into new areas of vaping - pushing boundaries. Pushing the boundaries to the habit of vaping, might make US the ones who look bonkers. I don't want that.<br /><br />And also....<br /><br />Sub ohming costs!<br /><br />Not only is it hugely wasteful of e liquid, and battery power so that it is a mug's practice, but if there are going to be any dangers to vapers from vaping, I see possible future problems in inhaling direct-to-lung such huge quatities of vapour that the vaping-antis in "the world out there", can eventually say "We told you so". I don't want that either.<br /><br />I am really disappointed that the whole idea of substituting smoking with vaping has been so badly received in the world. This is, to my mind, the continuation of the Tobacco Control chicanery, and I have watched how science was used as a weapon against smokers. And again in just as dishonest a fashion against vaping. Every bit of twisted science against vapers, is not actually against us - we already vape - but it is a direct act against smokers, so that they fear vaping, fear smoking, feel guilty for what they do. and it will stop them becoming vapers.<br /><br />Tobacco Control is an evil industry. It doesn't want a world of vapers. It is feeding off its prey - smokers - just enough to keep smoking going and the Tobacco Industry functioning, so that the Tobacco Control Industry future is assured.<br /><br />To me, they are far more evil than the Tobacco Industry, which, at least, are honest about their intention to be a profitable industry. They kept me in cigarettes, which I loved, for 50 years. They provided me a great deal of pleasure. On the other hand, Tobacco Control have pretended to have my best interests at heart but they have schemed, planned, purposefully made up stories, ruined great swathes of the economy, twisted people's minds, abused people, and fed off unearned monies - our money - to support themselves. And are still seeking, at all costs, to protect <u>their</u> very profitable industry by peddling fear - charitably of course!<br /><br />The information that they have churned out about smoking, second hand smoke and now, vaping, makes me not believe a word they say. And no sane person should.<br /><br />If there was no Tobacco Control Industry, vaping would have been well received in "the world out there".<br /><br />Recently, I have been playing with my old vaping toys. Some were truly terrible. They are the ones that are "favoured" as smoking quitting aids by you-know-who - Tobacco Control. They did get me off smoking. But they did not <b>keep</b> me off smoking. And that is more important.<br /><br />The way smokers can STAY off smoking is with the devices that have been developed for our pleasure now. The ones that the evil ones are trying to bury.<br /><br />I've got old and grumpy, obviously, for I can't be doing with double speak of any kind.<br /><br />About vaping I don't do words like &nbsp;"Harm reduction" "Public Health" "Smoke Free" "Vaping Saves Lives" and all the other memes they use in "the world out there".<br /><br />About vaping, I am very sure. of the words I would use. They are the very same I used when I was a smoker and can be completely interchanged.<br /><br />I love smoking. Smoking gives me pleasure. My peak moments are celebrated with a cigarette. Smoking helps me think. I love the smell of cigarettes. I couldn't imagine life without smoking. Smoking is the best pleasure of my life.<br /><br />This became -<br /><br />I love vaping. Vaping gives me pleasure. My peak moments are celebrated with a vape. Vaping helps me think. I love the smell of vaping. I couldn't imagine life without vaping. Vaping is the best pleasure of my life.<br /><br />Every smoker should have the chance to say that, and in a world without constant legislative meddling at the behest of the Evil Ones - Tobacco Control - they would have.<br /><br />SHAME on the Evil Ones - SHAME on you!vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-51573463758691431582016-08-10T15:00:00.001+01:002016-08-10T15:00:42.265+01:00For Craig and beginner vapers<iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="270" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/hK0asTnE41A" width="480"></iframe>vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230397033114113847.post-36866998806341496392016-06-07T10:42:00.000+01:002016-06-07T10:42:03.259+01:00Submit your questions to Hon Lik<div class="tr_bq">I got an email from Blu. I point out Blu is a product of the hated Big Tobacco. I find it SO astonishing how any Big Tobacco company making e cigs gets pilloried by vapers saying silly things like "I don't want anything to do with Big Tobacco." and such like, when they were their customers for all their smoking years. I feel no animosity towards them. Promoting vaping is a good thing, however it happens.</div><br />I smoked Big Tobacco's Rothmans - and loved them. &nbsp;It was only when I arrived in England twenty years ago, that I realised that Rothmans in the UK, were terrible compared to a proper cigarette that I used in Africa. This was not the fault of Big Tobacco, but the fault of Tobacco Control screaming for low nicotine cigarettes. In England, my Rothman's were completely non satisfying and they burnt down so quickly, I often smoked two to get any pleasure from them.<br /><br />A good old fashioned cigarette, without interference, was a very satisfying experience.<br /><br />"Lite" cigarettes are killing machines - its the SMOKE that harms, not the nicotine. Tobacco Control are <b><u>still </u></b>demanding low nicotine cigarettes in the European Union, which shows how daft the whole thing is. They have already re-sculpted society to brainwashed robots that repeat their creed and believe implicitly every guestimate and twististic that they produce.<br /><br />Their machinations are quite as vile as any Big Tobacco thought up.<br /><br />So I wrote a blog called <a href="http://vapingpoint.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/big-tobacco-friend-or-foe-to-vapers.html" target="_blank">Big Tobacco, friend or foe to vapers?&nbsp;</a>&nbsp;My rating dropped immediately!<br /><br />Big Tobacco are making e cigs - so they have an unfair advantage over small manufacturers? Yes. Big Tobacco are trying to keep up with the new technology that might threaten their cigarette sales? Yes. Big Tobacco are plotting with Tobacco Control and Big Pharma to stop the growth of vaping to keep selling Tobacco which is profitable to them all. I don't know about that. But Tobacco Control and Big Pharma are definately in cahoots! How evil is that?<br /><br />So, if you are still reading this! I got a letter from Blu<br /><br /><blockquote><span style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;">Hi Liz,</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;">My name is Sean and I work for blu. I am contacting you today with an exciting opportunity for you and your readers.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;">blu will be holding an exclusive Q&amp;A Session with Hon Lik, the inventor of the technology behind nearly all modern e-cigarettes and vapes. But there's a twist! We at blu reckon the Vaping Community has some burning questions they want to ask Hon Lik, so we're giving you the chance to ask them.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;">If you would like to submit a question visit the Hon Lik Interview page&lt;</span><a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?hl=en-GB&amp;q=https://www.blu.com/en/GB/hon-lik-interview-2016/hon-lik-interview-2016.html&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1465375061626000&amp;usg=AFQjCNFnQEAOGErMFkDaksaNOx_vW4C5EQ" href="https://www.blu.com/en/GB/hon-lik-interview-2016/hon-lik-interview-2016.html" rel="noreferrer" style="background-color: white; color: #1155cc; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;" target="_blank">https://www.blu.com/en/<wbr></wbr>GB/hon-lik-interview-2016/hon-<wbr></wbr>lik-interview-2016.html</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;">&gt;, fill in your details along with your question, and hit submit.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;">We'll get in touch with anyone whose question is asked, and even if it isn't, we will let you know when the interview is ready so you can share it with your readers.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;">Questions should be submitted by 14th June.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;">many thanks</span></blockquote>&nbsp;I have a question to Hon Lik. And it is this - "Do you still approve of Tobacco Control, given that they are turning out to be vapers' worst enemies?"<br /><br />Please feel free to submit your own questions.....<br /><br />vapingpoint Lizhttps://plus.google.com/104645458097178919522noreply@blogger.com0