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Nearly 8 months out from op and things seem reasonably good, just waiting for a blood test to be done. I am 99.9% dry with just an occassionable damp patch. ED is the problem, but as yet have taken no meds, but I can get partial inflation. I have noticed that on the point of climax there is a spurt of urine, but I do try to empty the bladder prior to stimulation. Is this a continuous problem or will it ease in time, I have long since done away with condoms as I had the snip many years ago. So, it looks like a trip to the pharmacy. All the best from a very cold England.Diagnosed February 2009. Gleason 6, Psa 7.2, 12 core biopsy, and then Mri scan, which showed organ specific.

I am 2 1/2 years post surgery and I still ejeculate urine, and I have seen no improvement since my surgery. I was very lucky in not having any ED issues after my surgery, and I can achieve a pretty rock solid erection without taking any drugs, so I feel thankful for that. But the major problem I do have is that as soon as I start feeling myself starting to get sexually aroused and an erection comming on, I start to feel my splinckter muscle relaxing and I will start dripping urine. Even if I try to empty my bladder before sex, I will still drip some urine with an erection, and I will still ejeculate urine with orgasm. With a really good intense orgasm, I can ejeculate urine with such force I can hit the ceiling. Too bad you can not take a pill to color your urine white.

I talked to my uro and he said that this is just something you have to live with and is one of the side effects surgeons never tell you about. He told me that if you ejeculate some urine into your partner, not to worry because urine is sterile and it can not cause any harm. Try telling that to a woman!!!!

This has really put a damper on my sex life because now when ever I think about having sex, first I have to go try to empty my bladder, then I have to get towels and put them on the bed so I don't drip all over the sheets, then I got to worry about ejeculating urine when I have an orgasm. Maybe this is the contributating factor why I lost my libdo after surgery.

I sure hope your urine ejeculation improves, because I would not want anybody going through what I am going through. It is like torture. I am lucky enough to have no ED issues after surgery and can get rock solid erections,, but I can't use them because I leak every where. Well, I guess this is a small price to pay for not having cancer.

NYSooner: Several guys have your probloem and a few solve it by applying a tight (small) penis ring after gaining erection, to clamp off the urine flow. I had this problems for a few months a found that it does work. There's even a kit available with silicone rings and an applicator, for those who don't require a pump to gain erection. Here's the link:

Thanks James. I may try that solution. Same issue here, 1 year out. Sometimes no urine, sometimes a lot, regardless of emptying before. One thing that seems to make some difference is how much fluid you've taken on in the couple of hours before becoming active. More means more urine production, so more in the bladder after emptying but before climax. Note that this statement is only about as accurate as english grammer rules.

Rolerbe,,,,I tried your solution about not drinking a lot of fluid hours prior, but I find that even with this, I will still drip some urine, and now because the urine is much more concentrated, it tends to have more of an oder to it which makes things worst. Since I can not stop the leaking no matter what I do, then at least I want it some what less replusive, so I find by drinking a lot of water hours before sex, the water dillutes the urine so much as to make it have no oder what so ever and it almost clear in color. This helps makes it a little more less repulsive and acceptable.

I too have used the rings technique with good success.Also when I used MUSE the last couple of times I simply used a not-too-tight ring-with-beads-inside ring just below the head of the penis -- not at the base. You can get those rings online anywhere (Adam and Eve for instance). That keeps the nuisance drips at bay, and it is quite decorative too -- and "adds that little extra bumpy roughness that women love" (quote from the description -- hah hah).

I am not sure if it would keep the orgasmic spurt at bay tho -- i usually chicken out and clamp down on penis no matter what kind of ring system I have in place.

I would have liked my pre op "spurts" to have been as powerfull as my post op "spurts". I have obviously found that emptying the bladder prior to the event cuts down on the amount of urine lost. Just wait and see how things progress. Allthe best from England.Diagnosed February 2009. Gleason 6, Psa 7.2, 12 core biopsy, and then Mri scan, which showed organ specific.

On nights I have an orgasm I have no leakage before, during, or immediately afterwards. But sometimes - not always - when I wake up a few hours later, I have leaked a few drops. [Actually, if I didn't know better, I would swear that it is semen, not urine. Just me losing my grip on reality, I guess ....]

Anyway, on other nights, never a drop.

I don't have a partner, so I've just ignored it. Hopefully it will go away in time. It's never a big leak. Don't know what I'd do if I ever do have a partner again, but that is so unlikely it's not worth spending time thinking about.

Zen9

No family history of PC. PSA reading in 2000 was around 3.0 . Annual PSA readings gradually rose; no one said anything to me until my PSA reached 4.0 in September 2007, at which point my internist advised me to see a urologist.

Urologist advised a repeat PSA reading in six months = 4.0 . Diagnosed May 2008 at age 56 as a result of 12 core biopsy. Biopsy report by Bostwick Laboratories = Gleason 3 + 3.

Interviewed two urologists - the one who did the biopsy and another - the latter had the biopsy slides re-examined = Gleason 3 + 3.

Then went to M. D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston in July 2008 and met with a urologist and a radiologist. Biopsy slides re-examined yet again, this time by MDA's internal pathology department = Gleason 3 + 4.

Zen9, there is a good possibility the 'leak' you are seeing is from the Cowper's Gland, which often remains after surgery. It's the same clear pre-lub you saw in the past, not in as large amount, but still present. Several guys here have commented that they see it afterwards, in an oozing out manner.James C. Age 62 Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum4/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7 7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS 3/3=69/07 Nerve sparing open RRP 110gms.- Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Stg. pT2c, 110gms, margins clear24 mts: PSA's: .04 each test since surgery, ED Continues-Bimix .3ml PRN or Trimix .15ml PRN

Thanks a million. I learned something new today. I've noticed the pre lube secretions and thought I was crazy since I had no prostate.After your post I googled Cowpers Gland and I guess I must still have one.

I'm not imagining things or crazy. I was even worrying that there might be some prostate something or other left behind if I was having this secretion.

Thanks for the education. Your post is the first I ever learned about this gland.

Mike8/12/09 Diagnosed at 49 years old. DOB. 6/11/60

10/29/09 Surgery at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center, NYC11/25/09 Catheter Out (4 weeks)99% continent the day the catheter came outWore the pads for 2 weeks to be safe but had minor drips at most.12/16/09 First PSA (7 weeks) < .05 Undetectable

I didn't think it was urine, but I just assumed it had to be - even though everything about it said it wasn't.

I very much appreciate the education, as always.

Zen9No family history of PC. PSA reading in 2000 was around 3.0 . Annual PSA readings gradually rose; no one said anything to me until my PSA reached 4.0 in September 2007, at which point my internist advised me to see a urologist.

Urologist advised a repeat PSA reading in six months = 4.0 . Diagnosed May 2008 at age 56 as a result of 12 core biopsy. Biopsy report by Bostwick Laboratories = Gleason 3 + 3.

Interviewed two urologists - the one who did the biopsy and another - the latter had the biopsy slides re-examined = Gleason 3 + 3.

Then went to M. D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston in July 2008 and met with a urologist and a radiologist. Biopsy slides re-examined yet again, this time by MDA's internal pathology department = Gleason 3 + 4.

I had the same problem and it lasted for a little while and if I do not void before having sex now I will still leak a few drops on climaxing. When I asked my surgeon about it he told me studies have found about 40% of prostatectomy men have a small amount of leakage when climaxing. In my case it has gotten better and I do not use a condom.