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Pope Francis will hold the historic meeting with Russian Orthodox Patriarch Kirill in Cuba. It’s the first meeting of its kind since Western and Eastern Christianity split in the 11th century which became known as The Great Schism.

Thank you Saker I was wondering what your thoughts were on the subject. Here are just a few videos I was able to find on Orthodox YouTube channels:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-gBcR5ddRw
His grace, bishop of Valjevo, sir Milutin, the bishop of the Serbian Orthodox Church condemns Latin heresy during his ceremon at the Sunday of Orthodoxy (First Sunday of Easter Lent), celebrating 7th Ecumenical Council.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_Y-e3RyF9s
The speaker, Father Thomas Hopko (1939-2015), was one of the greatest English-speaking academic scholars in the Eastern Orthodox Church. He was also, one of the more liberal (on the subject of unifying the Christian faith) spokesmen for the Eastern Orthodox Church. Father Tom is Dean Emeritus of St. Vladimir’s Orthodox Theological Seminary and the author of numerous books and articles. He is very optimistic compared to most other well-informed Orthodox leaders.

Can the Roman Catholics, reject the filoque, purgatory, papal authority as we know it, the Immaculate Conception, the normative use of unleavened bread for Communion, and more? If not, one of Orthodoxy’s most easy going and most willing to recommend compromise paints an ugly picture for those Roman Christians who feel this centuries-old schism can some how be set aside.

Remember, in the Orthodox Church, no single person, no committee and not even a popular vote can change anything concerning the faith. Jude 3. So, it is simply impossible for the Orthodox Church to adopt the Roman position on these issues.

On the very minor question of “the normative use of unleavened bread for Communion”, it might be worth noting that there is a certain precedent: all three Synoptic Gospels present the Last Supper as a Seder, where unleavened bread is obligatory. The Gospel of John can be read differently, that it occurred the evening before, but contemporary scholarship is coming to see that John depicts it as a Seder also.

@Branko – Along that same general line of thinking, I’m still incensed over how this Pope immediately extended a formal invitation to Ukraine coup boss Yatsenyuk, (literally days following the February 2014 coup), to visit at Rome. To this day, no such cordiality was ever extended to any representative of the loyalist, defenders in S.E. Ukraine. It is impossible for me to believe that this was less than a deliberate signal by the Church, aimed to inform it’s considerable faithful, as to which side of the issue it had been “enlightened” into supporting.

Hi. Nice to have a cafe in the vineyard where we’re not fettered by the Off Topic mantra.

I’m a former Catholic priest and now a Rus lover.

I no longer care about the niceties of dogma. My karma ran over my dogma long ago. What do I care about the endless debates over how many angels can sit on the pin of a dogma? The only dogma worth the word is the one Jesus gave: love, love and more love.

If these two leaders from East and West can take off their silken robes and golden vests and walk a mile or two in Jesus’ shoes I think it would be a good move. Maybe times have changed over two thousand years and they can avoid the crosses so many of the people Jesus loved have suffered.

Come on, give peace a chance and love a break. Love can mend a broken heart and a shattered world. Pray that popes and patriarchs can usher in dawning light from the East and holy breath from the West, and finish the job Jesus started. “…you will do what I have done and even greater.” John 14:12

“Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?”

The message of Jesus was a truly powerful message. As was that of Mohammed.

“Despite some success in reducing the power of the oligarchs who arose from the Yeltsin privatizations, the Russian government needs to retain national enterprises as a countervailing economic power. The reason governments operate railways and other basic infrastructure is to lower the cost of living and doing business. The aim of private owners, by contrast, is to raise the prices as high as they can. This is called “rent extraction.” Private owners put up tollbooths to raise the cost of infrastructure services that are being privatized. This is the opposite of what the classical economists meant by “free market.”

There is talk of a deal being made with the oligarchs. The oligarchs will buy ownership in the Russian state companies with money they have stashed abroad from previous privatizations, and get another “deal of the century” when Russia’s economy recovers by enough to enable more excessive gains to be made.

The problem is that the more economic power moves from government to private control, the less countervailing power the government has against private interests. From this standpoint, no privatizations should be permitted at this time.”

I am trying to figure out what to make of the election choices. My top factor is the inclination to ignore the neocon drive to make war on Assad in Syria, Iran, and Russia. Second is the influx in immigration into the US. I have looked over Donald Trump and have taken note of his enemies, and based on that alone, he looks better than the rest. His low brow bluster about American exceptional ism may be a protection against an attack which might be successful if he ran as a policy wonk with all flags flying. I am not sure I am not fooling myself, but I remember when Pat Buchanan went down after publicly picking a fight with the lobby. A. A Rosenthal of the NY times buys his ink by the drum, and while Pat did fine through New Hampshire, he was stopped in S Carolina by a coalition with not in insignificant number of Zionist evangelicals. Trump may be running with this shallow external PR shell, but I don’t think he is as as shallow as his PR image. He may know what’s going on, and has decided what kind of shallow PR image he must project to protect against such frontal attacks as Buchanan welcomed as a badge, and were his undoing. Trumps militarist talk is not backed by much concrete policy, and as a business man, I don’t believe he will be as likely to go to war against Russia to “get” Iran and Assad in Syria. — although his anti Iran rhetoric makes me wonder if I am fooling myself. I just am not sure. He is not a dumb as he seems. The question is, what can we learn about who he really is. He has the right enemies, thats for sure. Rubio and Cruz are both in the neocon ranks. Sanders is an option but he is moving more toward the default pro Israel position the more national his campaign becomes and a Socialist as a president might be more than the Country could stand on an economic front. What to the rest of the readers here think about this Trump’s PR image as just armor against the usual attacks that would take down somebody who not a Zionist sock puppet? I really honestly don’t know if I will vote at all. Probably not. Maybe I will write in Ron Paul.

My opinion is that either Trump or Sanders, would be best for the “peace” camp. Hillary or Cruz,best for the neo-cons and the war camp. I mentioned months ago that the US election would become a “Hate-Russia” feast. And the winner will be the “candidate” that can demonic Putin and Russia the most (and best). If Hillary or Cruz are the candidates you can “bet the bank” on that prediction. Hillary is already starting ,” she’ll send a stern message to Putin as President” and “she won’t let Putin get away with disestablishing the World”,etc,etc. And Cruz is a fascist pure and simple.No “if and or but’s about it”.His political mentor was his father. A fanatic anti-communist Cuban-exile. To whom ,anyone to the “left” of Attila the Hun” is a demonic Red.If you look in Cruz’s eyes (if he doesn’t know you’re looking) you can almost see the hate there.I don’t see Rubio with a chance,nor any other of the stooges either.If Hillary or Cruz get the Presidency,its not a question of will there be a war.The question will be “when,where” and “how big” it will be.

@van on February 05, 2016 · at 8:15 pm UTC
Mr.Trump was married twice,ones to the US born wife / and he is still married /to the wife of the Slavic origin and I have a feeling that this is also the influence on him to make a friend with Putin and the US is going flourish from this friendship too and also from the mutual business of both of the countries. Actually they need each other obviously with out the neocons what Mr. Putin has too /I would say plenty enough /.
I think Mr. Trump is the part of the establishment, just he wants to go a bit business direction and definitely not by the war direction / till now he is making this impression, in comparison with Mrs. Clinton, she would attack Iran yesterday, even she is considering this already too late and make her bosses happy / . And it is going to be only on the US voters which way they will choose, but for now you have NO significant personality in US to vote for unfortunately.
Mr. Trump is going to be this less damaging picture in the world to represent US.

Here is one of the opinions about a Trump
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(Interesting perspective from a Vietnam Vet)
BY G. MURPHY DONOVAN, AMERICAN THINKER

Donald Trump is a piece of work even by New York standards: tall, white, loud, brash, entrepreneurial, successful, rich, ruthlessly candid, well-dressed, and fond of heterosexual women. He has married at least three delicious ladies in fact. Trump has five children and seven grandchildren. Indeed, his progeny are well above average too, smartly groomed, photogenic, and successful to boot. As far as we know, Donald does not have any tattoos, piercings, unpaid taxes, or under-aged bimbo interns, nor is he a drinker or a junkie.

Trump projects and enterprises probably employ more folks than the NYC school system — or the United Nations. You could say that Trump is living the life, not the life of Riley, but more like Daddy Warbucks with a comb over. “The Donald,” as one ex-wife calls him, is not just living the American dream. Trump is the dream — and proud of it. You could do worse than think of Trump as upwardly mobile blue collar.
He is the grandson of immigrants and the product of Long island, a Queens household, and a Bronx education. The Donald survived the Jesuits of Fordham University for two years before migrating to finish his baccalaureate at the Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania.
When readers of the New York Times, The New Yorker, and the New York Review of Books speak of “the city”, (Manhattan) they are not talking about the Queens or the Bronx. Growing and schooling in the blue-collar boroughs gives Trump a curb level perspective, something seldom found in Manhattan. Or as any “D” Train alumnus might put it, Trump has “a pretty good Bravo Sierra detector.”
So what’s not to like about Donald Trump? He doesn’t just stay in four-star hotels; he builds them. He doesn’t just own luxury condominiums; he makes them. He doesn’t just own historic buildings; he restores them. He doesn’t just eat at the best restaurants; he creates them. He just doesn’t belong to the best country clubs; he builds those too. Donald Trump, unlike the Manhattan/Washington fantasy Press and every Beltway political pimp, doesn’t just pay lip service to a bigger and better economy, he creates micro-economies every day.
In any case, the merits of entrepreneurs like Trump might best be defined by the character or motives of his critics. Trump detractors are for the most part “B” list politicians, ambulance chasers, and a left-leaning Press corps that lionizes the likes of Nina Totenberg, Dan Rather, Chris Matthews, Andrea Mitchell, and Brian Williams. If the truth were told, most of Trump’s critics are jealous, envious of his wealth and they loathe his candor.
Donald might also be hated for what he is not. Trump is not a lawyer, nor is he a career politician who lives on the taxpayer dime. Trump is paying for his own campaign. Bernie, Barack, McCain, and Kerry could take enterprise lessons from a chap like Trump. Unlike most government barnacles, Trump can walk and chew gum at the same time. He knows how to close a deal and build something. He is a net creator, not consumer, of a kind of wealth that provides “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” for Americans- real jobs not feather merchants. Today, Trump has nothing left to prove. Yet, success has allowed him the rarest of public privileges, an electoral pulpit and the courage to speak his mind.

Alas, truth is not necessarily a political asset in a socialized democracy. Indeed, the erstwhile presidential candidate stepped on his tongue recently by suggesting that Mexico, already exporting dangerous drugs, cheap tomatoes, and even cheaper labor, was also exporting violent felons to the US. Truth hurts! Trump’s rude candor is underwritten by nearly half a million illegal felons in American jails.
Coincidently, events have conspired to support Trump’s take on Mexican dystopia with the El Chapo Guzman jailbreak and the murder of Kathryn Steinle by Francisco Sanchez. Senor Sanchez sported a lengthy criminal record and had been deported on four previous occasions. San Francisco, a “sanctuary” city, failed to honor existing warrants and released Sanchez from jail just before he blew Kathy Steinle away!

As serendipity would have it, Trump then went to Phoenix on 12 July and gave a stem winder to a sell-out crowd on the subject of illegal immigration. Senator John McCain was not pleased to have The Donald on Arizona’s front lawn and intemperately called Trump supporters “crazies.”
To date, Trump has run a clever campaign. He is chumming; throwing red meat and blood into campaign waters and all the usual suspects are in a feeding frenzy.

McCain, the Press, the Left, and the Republican establishment all have something to say about “The Donald.” It is truly amazing how cleverly Trump manages to manipulate the establishment. If you are trying to sell an idea or a candidacy, there’s no such thing as bad publicity. Who knows where the Trump campaign goes?
With El Capo on the loose again, every time a toilet flushes in Sinaloa, Mexican garbage is likely spill out in Los Angeles, Hollywood, San Francisco, Portland, or Seattle. Indeed, it’s hard to believe that the Left Coast could survive without cheap labor, pistileros, meth, coke, heroin, or weed.
Necrotic immigration and its byproducts are ready made targets for a gunslinger like Trump. Trump is no bigot. He probably employs more Latinos and Blacks than Enrique Peña Nieto or as current President, Barack Obama. In his own way, Donald Trump is both immigrant and POW, a refugee from Queens and still a prisoner of Wharton. The Donald is The Dude, the guy with babes and a roll of Benjamins that would choke a shark. He is the wildly successful capitalist that some of us love to hate. It doesn’t take much insight to compare Trump’s various enterprises with federal programs. Public education, banking oversight, public housing slums, poverty doles, veterans’ fiascos, Internal Revenue hijinks, and even some Defense Department procurement programs are consensus failures. The F-35 “Lightning” fighter is an illustration, arguably the most expensive single DOD boondoggle in history. Pentagon progressives seldom win a catfight these days, but they still spend like sailors.

In Trump’s world failure has consequences so if and when he fails, he is out of business. In contrast, Washington rewards failure with better funding. Indeed, generational program failure is now a kind of perverse incentive for Beltway politicians and apparatchiks to throw good money after failed programs. The difference between Trump and McCain should be obvious to any fair observer; Trump has done something with his talents.
Any way you look at it, Donald Trump is good for national politics, good for democracy, good for America, and especially good for candor. If nothing else, The Donald may help Republicans to pull their heads out of that place where the sun seldom shines.
At this point I have no idea who I am supporting. I like Ted Cruz, Ben Carson and several others, however I am enjoying every minute of seeing Trump confound the critics and driving the liberal, progressives, and media crazy.
You better believe I would vote for Trump over ANYTHING the Democrat party selects. We are in for the fight of our life for this nation and we need someone with a whole lot of nerve, guts or whatever you call it. I am sick of the establishment politicians who stand for nothing, have accomplished nothing and are a large part of the problem in this country, and if Trump is the nominee I will be campaigning for him. You may not agree with all of this, but there are, I think, many good points.

Do with it what you will.

The author had two tours in Vietnam as a junior officer and subsequently served as command Intelligence briefer in Hawaii where he updated CINCPAC, John McCain’s father, on POW matters.

I would respectfully disagree with almost everything positive said about Mr Trump in the above post. I am not an expert on all things Trump, indeed have little time or attention to devote to celebrity `culture´. I would invite you to entertain another perspective which sees Mr Trump as representing the archetype of the Con Man, the toxic mimic of that which liberates.
He has been linked with Jeffrey Epstein, who was convicted of sex with minors on his private island, where both Bill Clinton and Trump were frequent visitors. His fortune stems from an opportunistic parasitism of government funding and exploitation of powerless classes of people. Woody Guthrie, the voice of the underclasses actually wrote lyrics condemning the elder Trump for running government funded slums which did not allow people with dark skin access to services. He was successfully sued in 1954 for fraud and embezzlement of government funds. The apple does not fall far from the tree.
As for Mr Trumps´savage verbal attacks on the failings of the system, I think we can all celebrate a little candor, and any speech which rips aside the thin tattered veil of any democratic pretensions of governance. That is not to say that Mr T has any solutions. I would repeat the snark that Mr T never reads the whole book, he skips to chapter 11. His own business acumen skirts any sense of morality and responsible productive accountability. He builds, yes, shabby buildings. Using, as in one case sited, illegal Polish laborers, paying $4 an hour (in New York!) without even giving them hard hats on a dangerous work site. His savage destruction of the historic decorative work on one building was done quickly, using mafia linked companies, before any historic preservation civic group could organize a protest. Its always the bottom line with the extractive model of business. He has learned to cover his ass legally, so as not to be responsible to the harms caused by his business endeavors, by a `legal´strategy of layers of corporations, and contracts, so that others take the fall, absorb the losses, or go bankrupt, so that others take the fall.
Mr T has left a trail of wreckage in the business world much like the Clintons have done in government. Not surprising they are socially and financially linked.
On a positive note, Mr Trumps blatant racism and sexism, his blaming of the victims in society, has brought to the surface an ugly undercurrent in American `culture´. I think we can use it to really talk about history and economics in a new way. He has lanced the boil, so to speak, and we have collectively a chance to heal this insidious remnant of our imperial legacy.
The electorate has been conned repeatedly, and the media has honed the con to an art form. It is up to us to provide the antidote, a culture of loving reverence, with Lady Justice front and center, blindfold removed. When you see the flash and spectacle, the Veblenesque display of wealth, a red flag should go up. The hustle is on.
Time is too short my friends, to remain enthralled by the spectacle, to wait for the savior president, who will through symbolic manipulation and warfare, make everything right. Now is the time to join in humble faith, with the resources at our disposal, and work for the good of all. No more lesser evilism, no more celebrity bullshit. The renewal of the economy, and all of our social institutions is going to take us all working with vision and energy. Don´t give the sideshow your time or energy. We have the knowledge and resources to provide for all people the basic human rights of housing, food, water, and education. As we move towards that goal we will unleash the creative powers of our brothers and sisters, and empower the generations to come. It will take generations to clean up the toxic legacy of irresponsible mining, dumping, power and industrial waste. It will take vision, a turning away from petrochemical agriculture and a decentralization of power and governance, demilitarization, and it can be a damn good party as we go along.
Blessings of Peace from the Nayarít coast

As for me, I will not vote for Cinton. I *may* vote for Sanders, but the Obama betrayal is still so strong, it is like PTSD. I do not want Sanders-caused PTSD syndrome reliving the betrayals fo Obama. So, long story short, I am thinking of votoing for Dr. Jill Stein, of teh Green Party.

She understands Sanders’s weaknesses very well. His biggest weakness is running undfer the banner of the Dem Party. A corrupt institution.
Katherine

Hi, I am going recently trough russian history, also revisiting soviet history.
I noticed one interesting thing in famous Stalin speech at start of war, which I did not noticed before.
In russian and also in other slavic languages he is using word “vjerolomnye napadjenije”, because subconscience meaning of is very much different from english translation in my opinion.
I am not that good in english, so I can be mistaken.
Just find it interesting…

I like “zakuski”, Russian appetizers, a lot. A gazillion ways to prepare a gazillion type of mushrooms. My personal favorite: Saffron milk cap – Lactarius deliciosus – fried with some chopped onions and sour cream on baby baked potatoes), various types of cold cuts, caviar (red and black), and some soup, like Borshch, served with ice cold vodka. I also love the Okroshka (raw veggies and kvass based) soup, Shchi (cabbage soup) and, of course, “Kotlety” (Russian meat balls). Another Russian specialty are different kinds of smoked fish. My personal favorite is the Muksun – Coregonus muksun – a type of whitefish only found in Siberia. As main courses I love the Central Asian “plov” (rice pilaf) and the Kazakh style “beshparmak” (meat dish). I absolutely love the Russian “pilmeni” (Russian ‘ravioli’ filled with a combo of meats), especially the Siberian ones. I like the “herring under a fur coat” salad (http://kuking.net/resize/197/600/w/pictures/section/1/1_2505.jpg), the so-called “Russian salad” (or Olivier salad), fish soups (Ukha), “pirozhki” (especially the meat ones) and many many more dishes. And that is just the beginning :-)

What a great topic! A Vineyard Cookbook, spiral-bound like community cookbooks in days of yore, would be a beautiful thing. Has a comprehensive Russian cookbook been done in English, anyone have any leads? Even something as simple as vodka is a huge topic — local Russian grocers have been educating me about that, not to mention beer, and dried boletes. The Russians are mycophiles and there are probably books dedicated to mushroom cookery alone (interesting how mycophobic Anglo-Saxons can be). Zakuski sounds as wonderful as real tapas in San Sebastian. Cross-cultural polination can begin around dinner tables.

Well, recently it was a very heated discussion on this blog about the name of the “Anglo-Zionist” Empire.
I don’t if it was just an accident or serendipity from the manipulated media / they never invite the opposition or just very little / just listen to this program it is very interesting and make your own conclusion. It is worth to listen

Hi everybody. Can anybody please help? I need the names, contact details of the gas and/or electricity company/companies in Donetsk/Gorlovka/DPR (I don’t know how many there are); and maybe also in the LPR, but preferably in the DPR, or at least first. Any names, e-mail address(es) – preferred – phone number(s), especially of English speaking employees, otherwise Russian will have to do. Also, as high up as possible. Many many thanks.

For what purpose? With the situation in Novorossiya such information would be confidential and it is also possible that the gas and electric supply is now coming from and regulated by an entity or entities
in Rostov Oblast.

Well it’s because I want to help them. I am in stalled discussions this side (in Britain) and I need a preferably high up English speaking gas/electricity official in the DPR to liase with. How that can be considered confidential – its in their own interests for me to be able to communicate with them.

With respect, if you have not been passed up to a higher level of contact during your discussions that means you will in all probability not obtain that higher access. The culture is such that you can rest assured your discussions are known by those who should know whether or not you are in personal contact with those individuals.

On the British side, I have been right to the top, and the company has indicated an interest in helping the Donbass. However, I need a contact in the Donbass who I can refer back to the British side. Despite having asked people in the Donbass, they don’t help.

This is a ”blue pill or red pill” moment one wonders if the whold world going to the dogs?,or is it all in the local imagination or one is not well informed?.Being an animal with a brain has its fallbacks after all there’s only security in the group right?.If as a thinking animal to be castigated as one with no conscience is to be throwned out as a savage!Being an ordinary thinking animal called ‘sheeple’ one has more negative drive to escape seeing the truth!Not knowing anything or being ignorant of current world events has its blessings!

What let to this sheepish conundrum was in reaction to watching the allknowing television where there was this serious looking man in three piece suit say the following,quote”With people reduced to eating grass and leaves and killing stray animals in order to survive on a day to day basis thats something that should tear at the conscience of all civilized people and we all have a responsibility to put an end to it” unquote or to that affect.

It was a shock to this uncivilized thinking animal and almost choked to dead on popcorn being eaten while the channel was switched to this speech!It took some bleary mind racing to figure out what was happening ,ok relax the brain said ,this is the Secretary of the state of the biggest most powerful peace and freedom loving nation addressing the world community to help some poor souls in Syria!Goddamn and about right time too and assisting were some other great leadership of other countries too!

Than the disconnect came in cause this thinking animal has prior memory of this godforsaken country mentioned as Syria…Where do you go ,or what you have to do to know what the feck is going on in the world!How did we come to this?after million years of evolution to drag ourselves out of the caves to go to the moon!How did this happened?

Oh, this is very simple. It has happened by the total ignorance, selfishness, extremely low level of education and of course very well prepared brainwashing. Tawistock institute did a very good job in this matter.
Nobody in the Western culture is interested in about another nations, just about their indulgence. Unfortunately now is the very high price to pay for this because most these rich people are on drugs or alcohol.

Thank you so much Saker for your efforts!! I’m an old American radical:60s, 70s.
I am not a betting man, but if I were; I would bet(with appropriate odds, of course)that the demented thing called Erdogan gets “heart-attacked” before the Bear has to smash psychopathic neocon spasms called “policies”.

The Imminent Collapse of the Financial Ponzi Scheme in the West and the Showdown of the AngloZionist Empire with Russia and China on the eve of a new global reset of the current failed monetary system

Two Observations and a Discussion

The only thing in relation to what you wrote that popped into my head as missing is all in relation to how the fraud will respond to this and a possible better explanation of use of the SDR and a basket of currencies and some mix of gold and silver or such to keep the ponzi scheme going. It would ultimately be the big picture play in conjunction with the global TPP corporate takeover effort to abandon the Dollar and leave the US population high and dry. Just like trying to take out Russia, an opposing force of possible dissent has to be taken out. But we don’t know exactly so that ultimately doesn’t even matter, but we are about to be confronted with it immediately obviously. Like I said, it just popped in my head so I’m writing it down.

Here’s a quote from Jim Sinclair’s site this morning:

“We are close to something huge. I suspect it will be more the increase of worldwide money supply by historic amounts rather than the deflationary implication that Yellen’s rate rise tried to plant that is spread on the airwaves 24/7.”

Jim Sinclair has mentioned St. Germain on his site in subtle ways more than once or twice.

He also wrote this:

“The world Central Banks will be called into action with no tools other than their lips. Everything we have always anticipated will occur. Prepare and GOTS.”

GOTS means Get Out of the System. Sinclair toured the world for a while to warn people what was coming. I went to a meeting in Phoenix and I can’t tell you how disappointed I was in the type of people and questions that were asked of him. I thought I was going to see a bunch of somewhat enlightened people but really all I saw was a bunch of people who wanted to profit off of the situation or were just plain scared. Sinclair seemed truly genuine and that he really just wanted to help people.

Basically, the SDR and the full blast money spigot is all they have left along with some manipulation of the price of gold and silver to temporarily offset debts, but you mention how well any of those type efforts will pan out as well. Nice work.

Brad Barber, USA

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I was thinking of the SDR or XDR construction, but when the dollar collapses this basket will also collapse. From what I know it does not seem to play a major role in the prevailing fraud and when this Ponzi bubble implodes, so will the SDR basket. By the way its composition:

“In the review conducted in November 2015, the IMF decided that the Renminbi (Chinese Yuan) will be added to the basket effective October 1, 2016.[6] From that date, the XDR basket will consist of the following five currencies: U.S. dollar 41.73%, Euro 30.93%, Chinese yuan 10.92%, Japanese yen 8.33%, British pound 8.09%.”

does not reflect the actual distrubution of the world currencies where the dollar is more than 65% and the euro only about 20%, while the British pound is less than 2-3%. Except for the yuan that will enter the basket first on October 1, 2016 which means most probably after the crash has already happened, all the other currencies will also collapse with the dollar. In fact I deliberately excluded the BRICS currencies from my considerations as they are not so much part of the financial fraud of the western cabal to install the NWO. They are simple national currencies with their weak and strong points as was the case with most currencies in the past, before the abolition of the gold standard in 1971 and the collapse of the Bretton Woods fixed currency rates system four years later.

Of course both the rubble and the Yuan are highly contaminated by the dollar fraud as a world currency but the Russians are now keen to decouple from the dollar system. The Chinese are much more involved in the dollar fraud, but as I see it, they did it on purpose to commit double fraud and eventually hollow the dollar system from within. They must have a B plan for bringing a new currency and that is why they do not care how many bubbles they have created now and weaken the yuan as long as they stimulate the industrial production in the country and buy wealth, resources and properties the world over. The Chinese have always known that the final confrontation will be between them and the USA and their only goal was to postpone this confrontation as long as possible in order to achieve the necessary threshold of power (critical mass) when the USA cannot defeat them and will die first. Then the Chinese will emerge again victorious with a new currency that will dominate the world.

Based on these considerations, I realized that we must begin with the new Astral currency here in the USA and Canada and then go to Europe where the euro is already disintegrating. We shall leave the Russians and Chinese to decide when they will enter our currency. As soon as they realize the advantages, they will do it immediately. In both countries fraud and corruption is a great issue and a big hindrance for true progress and the political elite there is painfully aware of this fact and wants to eliminate them. Our new currency will give them for the first time the chance to achieve their goal. But it may take some time while our currency will exist hand in hand with rubble and yuan which is absolutely OK. The same may happen with some other emerging countries.

The attractiveness of the new currency will be the new technologies which will come only through the new Astral currency and that is why I am sure that these two countries will very quickly decide to introduce it. However they are not our enemies but indirect allies now.

The real danger comes from the western cabal who want to install the NWO through collapsing the financial system and introducing the “mark of the Beast” – eliminate all cash as they now speak everywhere when the crash comes and introduce a new digital credit card system that will be fully controlled by the cabal. I do not even think that they will try to introduce the dollar standard again, but they may pretend so first in order to take all the money away from the people by arguing that this expropriation is a necessary step to introducing the gold standard and then stop short of it as they have no gold. It may be that Russia and China may introduce a gold standard as to protect themselves from the west, but even this is a remote probability.

As you have correctly observed, the cabal has failed with their attempt to install the NWO because they already failed to destroy Russia and China. It does not make any sense to install this order only in the West as it will automatically weaken this part of the world even more so than the central planned communist economy did in the East in the past. If the western cabal try to do that, they will reverse the roles with the communist system and we all know how it ended. The Russians and the Chinese know this from their personal experience with the communist system and that is why their only tactic is to gain time before the confrontation happens as to gain more power and emerge victorious when the west collapses. However, make no mistake, neither Russia nor China can be a model for a future enlightened humanity. They only serve as a buffer on this timeline to prevent the NWO and must also disappear as the western neo-liberal predatory order.

After all we must keep in mind that the new astral currency and the new EICs (emission and investment cooperatives) will very effectively and easily eliminate the national state and this also includes China and Russia which are still very centralized autocratic regimes, although more democratic than the West, precisely because they have to fight against it. In the Cold war the democracy in the West functioned more or less well because there was the communist alternative as a menace and the many left parties in the west supported this ideology. Now the situation has reversed, Russia and China are making use of democracy and freedom of speech to battle effectively the west with its own past means and the West has taken a flight to utter propaganda and manipulated MSM. I am reading regularly the German press and it is terrible – worse than under communism in the DDR. Just as an example.

These are crucial tectonic shifts in the society that determine nowadays the world events and one should probably detach a little bit more from what is happening in the USA as this is just one country that has already lost all its power projection on the rest of the world and now only remains the last projection – the dollar – to collapse for it to turn again into a normal country among many others, before we eliminate the national state.

Ultimately the elimination of the national state with the new Astral currency is an even more important goal than reforming the financial system as it is the source of all evil on this planet.

Multipolar is what’s in, the Astral won’t fly because no one wants to share 150-200 trillion FED/UST liability, moreover private CB’s must be nationalized before there is any meaningful scheme for a global currency (in the context of multipolar).

The “current failed monetary system” has not failed and is not about to fail simply because those holding the digits have an interest in keeping it going, not withstanding that some multipolars may prefer to do their own swaps and intermediation.

I’m sure that the Central Bank is on President Putin’ mind . Why would he not reform it now is the question . President Putin has enormous support amongst the Russian People yet at the same time if he changes the Central Bank the bankster class will react vehemently . Therefore I believe that Putin is being patient and will only react when the bankster class causes more trouble for Russia .That way President Putin can change the Bank in favor of the Russian Federation without losing public support and place the blame on the bankster class for the necessary adjustments.

Uh-oh, Israeli Ambassador to Britain is being investigated over a series of ‘security breaches’, involving a parade of young men (including, allegedly, some minors, according to British police). Taub denies any impropriety, saying the young, all-male ‘visits’ were ‘therapeutic’ in nature:

A dollar says a ring in the British Establishment with an international dimension is operating , to influence appointments to orgs like Amnesty International: the aim is to legalize prostitution globally.

Also, to abolish the age of consent, or to make it so low as to be of no protection at all.

“Diplomatic immunity, tacit collusion with the host government and a tendency to withdraw the ambassador as soon as allegations are made has created an environment in which embassy staff operate in a parallel legal dimension, not only with respect to British law, but also that of their home country.”

“Exceptional” nations flock together, again. And the usual cover-ups, just like the BBC with Saville. “A European Ambassador”, indeed!

Here’s quite an interesting article. Written yesterday in no less than the notorious U.S. right wing mouthpiece “Washington Times” – by no less than a former U.S. Navy commander and former Pentagon spokesman, J. D. Gordon, who served in the Office of the U.S. Secretary of Defense from 2005 to 2009.

Its title is NATO admission must never be free and it is about the misdeeds of arch-criminal Milo Djukanovic (Мило Ђукановић), the “prime minister” of Montenegro (Црна Гора), a tiny Balkan country awaiting the admission to the no less criminal NATO club. Concludes with a call for his imprisonment :-)

I wanted to drop this on all those conspiracy folks who think everything is done to us and others by an incredibly clever and evil group over whom we can never win.

I don’t like empowering evil any more than it already is.

So, China, Tianjin explosion. Many thought it was a sign of hybrid warfare.

I have studied China closely for almost 15 years, daily. I answered all the folks who thought the explosions and fires were a plot. I said then China has disasters all the time and most are products of carelessness, backwardness, stupidity. A tiny few are criminal acts of vengeance. And I think some might be pathetic attempts by various elements to cause riots and instability.

Tianjin definitely was not. I said so.

Here’s the official report:
Associated Press

The deadly warehouse blasts that killed 165 people in a Chinese port city in August were triggered when the stored chemical nitrocellulose became too dry and caught fire, investigators announced Friday.

An investigative team assembled by the State Council, China’s Cabinet, said flames spread among stocks of nitrocellulose, a flammable compound used as a binding agent with medical applications and as an ingredient in lacquer. The flames then spread to stores of the combustible fertilizer ammonium nitrate, touching off massive explosions.

The 165 people killed in the Aug. 12 blasts in Tianjin included 99 firefighters and 11 police officers.

Investigators previously have ruled that regulators failed to enforce safety rules, including keeping hazardous materials at the Ruihai International Logistics warehouses a proper distance away from residences. Authorities arrested several dozen people, including both warehouse executives and local government officials.

The investigative team said stocks of nitrocellulose at the Ruihai warehouses became too dry because of the loss of humidifying agents, and began to heat up because of hot weather. The material then began to burn, the team said.

Yeah! Get real about investigation especially those carried out by professional peeps!
We all know for sure ‘now’ that the horrors committed on unsuspecting sheepels on 9/11 and the reasons to kill more in Afghanistan and Iraq because of it was due to ”terrorist acts”.There was no conspiracy of any kind it was all necessary!

Than to assist in the ‘arab’ spring someone said ,”we came we saw he died”.But thats understandable as the ‘one’ who ‘died’ was well known as a crazy sadistic hareming imbecile.
All well and good and the nationals are touring in Europe right now!

Also in Syria the murderous regime is in great danger cause of the ‘moderate’ rebels the freedom loving great nations of this world sponsored!

Pass me the kool aid ,have more to say on the ‘currency reset’ that will free humanity..but am choking on kool aide so next time…

Phil Jayhan and Larry McWilliams on LetsRollForums have found the truth about 9/11. The WTC towers were built as an illusion, never fully occupied, partly hollow, fitted with a shutter/lighting system to simulate activity, gutted and empty on 9/11, hit by computer generated video pixel airplanes on television screens, smoking from a fake smoke pipe system (which is visible on photos and in videos), sporting fake dummy jumpers controlled by (Israeli?) “artists”, destroyed by controlled demolition using suitable conventional explosives and dust cloud devices (to hide what’s going on), with no casualties (except maybe some by accident), and a massive fake victim campaign.

But was he a lone nut? Just joshing, but no official report of any kind in the world could say “The guy who owes us a trillion dollars did this.” It would cause endless problems for the Chinese leadership with no positives. Why not just shoot yourself in the foot?

Not denying the rather lax safety practices in China. On the other hand, as we have seen with the Ukraine, war is a bit different now than a hundred years ago.

» I wanted to drop this on all those conspiracy folks who think everything is done to us and others by an incredibly clever and evil group over whom we can never win. «

No opinion about this China warehouse, but in general I find this warning very appropriate.

There’s an earthquake and then folks say it was “HAARP”, whatever that is and can do.

There’s a tsunami and folks come up and say it was a “nuclear bomb” under the sea.

There’s a draught and folks say it’s “weather warfare”.

Such ideas are planted by the hoaxers. They love creating and nurturing the idea that they have ultra super powers. Which they don’t.

They love huge coalitions against ten times inferior adversaries. Because then they have overwhelming force. But the truth is that their arrogant aircraft carriers are not unsinkable and will sink once they try and engage a potent enemy.

I won’t mention the hoax I promised not to mention any more … suffice it to say a huge new sinkhole forms and they call it “Sedan Crater”.

Interesting list. While percentage wise Russia is in the middle. She was 5th in actual number.Only behind the US,China,Germany,and India.Which also interestingly enough, is pretty much her world economic ranking as well.

My big irk this week is this money raising conference to “aid” Syria with no representatives of Syria invited and surely none from the 60,000 person Syrian refugee camp in Jordan. In fact RT reported that in one meeting of dozens of people only two people identified themselves as Syrians. So why this sudden concern of “something has to be done” after years of trashing the country literally—look at the pictures of totally destroyed cities that will have to be rebuilt from the ground up with teams of de-mining experts combing the ground first. ?

It iks me that people are called upon to give charity to fix the marauding of killers so? So they can continue to do this again. It is a misuse of our sense of compassion as it is funneled basically into co dependence on an abusive world system. It is like writing for Amnesty International to get one labor leader out of a Latin American country’s torture chamber after the US government sponsored that same country’s government into power and its subsequent killing of unions, worker’s rights and anyone protesting this.

It is do-good make work…it is a perverted charity,,, it is the anti thesis of Solidarity ( i.e. do not do this perversity/atrocity in the first place).

Charity without Solidarity is do-good insularity. It is the equivalence of moral diversion and it is so, so seductive because although the charity needs to be done ( the letter written) it is just the first step and not the one that leads so often to the shrug of the shoulder and the feeling that ” something has been done.”

“The United Nations Working Group on Arbitrary Detention has ruled that Wikileaks’ Julian Assange has been arbitrarily detained by the “democratic” governments of Sweden and the UK and is entitled to his freedom and compensation for detention by the two “democratic” governments.

The illegal actions of the Swedish and UK governments were on the orders of Washington, the corrupt government of which is determined to get Assange for publishing leaked documents revealing the criminality and mendacity of the US government.

Washington and its UK vassal claim to be defenders of the rule of law, but, of course, both governments are lawless. We will see if the rulihg has any effect on the behavior of “the two great champions of liberty.” My prediction is that the gang of criminals in Washington will not allow its vassal governments to abide by the UN decision. I hope that I am wrong.”

From what I’ve read, the uk and swedish quislings have refused to end their attack on Assange.

Now watch the angst against Iran increase from the usual suspects. Interesting Iran insists all monies to be paid in Euros, including the 100 billion released from sanctions. Is this an attempt to split the US and Europe? Create division between them?

Broad Question: What can be done about the ongoing war on the Middle East and the rape of Europe? What might Putin advise were he in charge — let it play out because nothing else can be done as things are? Or something else?

Back onto the topic of the planned meeting between the Catholic Pope and Orthodox Patriarch. Why are some so worried by it? All this talk of sell-out. The main reason giving impetus is the dire condition of Chrisitans in the Middle East. That can only be a good thing.

“Orthodox Official: Pope and Patriarch Will Meet Because of Genocide of Christians in Mideast
Metropolitan Hilarion: “It is necessary to put aside internal disagreements and unite efforts for saving Christianity in the regions where it is subjected to the most severe persecution”

“The persecution of Christians in the Middle East and in parts of Africa is the impetus for the historic meeting between Orthodox Patriarch Kirill and Pope Francis that will take place in Cuba next week.”

I personally am no fan of the Catholic Church, but I think that the new Pope is slightly more corageous than the earlier ones (which doesn’t say much, I know). He has made some moves that really upset the “Institution”, and he doesn’t seem so afraid of being criticised for speaking out.
So my hope (against hope?) is that he shall in some way admit to at least some of the atrocities the Church has been guilty of in Eastern Europe during the 20th century. That might open up a small trickle of communication between East and west.
At least that is what I will pray for — that the catholic side admits that *they* are/have been the perpetrators.
In the long run we can’t avoid trying to see that we ordinary people are stuck with each other on this Earth, regardless of religion, and we will not survive until we stop letting us be played by the dark Power’s scheme of “divide and rule”. We are – after all – brothers and sisters!

Great to have this kind of set up….the threads are getting longish….do we need one of those set ups where an arrow on the page takes you back to the top of the thread, cos when one comments that action takes you back to the top anyways, should also latest threads should be on the top???????

I’d known about the Brits forcing opium onto the Chinese, and the US, CIA running heroin out of the Golden Triangle, cocaine out of Colombia, etc, and heroin out of Afghanistan. I’d also heard rumors of the CIA deliberately causing the drug epidemics of the 60’s and 70’s, as well as the crack one of later years. All as a means off enriching themselves, but also to destroy the chances of a mass movement developing, one uniting white and colored, student, worker and middle class against the establishment. As a result, I found this show fascinating to listen to. Hopefully others do also.

always be skeptical of *official report*, whoever the source !
beijing might’ve its own reason to cover up an attack.

xi and co knew mh370 was a cia hit ,but unlike us *conspiracy theorists* who post our rants relying on our hunch, cirscumtantial evidences and ian fleming’s law of probability, it couldnt simply accuse washington of such heinous crime without producing a shred of evidence.

i believe this tianjin blast was another attack from the usual suspects , beijing prolly suspect as much but again it cant point finger without any solid evidence. !
the shameless unitedsnake could willy nilly made unsubstantiated charges against russia/china like cyber warfare , mh17 etc, cuz it has such a thick hide not even a du shell could punch thru !
ccp is different, its very thin skinned and unlike the snake it still has a reputation to preserve, making
charges at washington without anything to back up would only invite humuliation.
besides, once a charge is leveled at washington the chinese would expect action to follow, whats xi supposed to do, launch ww3 ?

like andre vltchek i dont follow the murkkan election circus so i dont know why so many murkkans who ought to know better,are gushing over sanders the supposedly great white hope to save murkka, even on alternate media. much like they fawned over obama the candidate 8 yrs ago !
how did that prez for change work out babes ?
candidate obama who made all the right promises then broke them all the first day in wh, just like all potus before him !
fool me once ……. !

how many times must the murkkans be told, your election is a rigged game !
the last man standing would be the chosen one.
consider this, why did all potus since 1875 carry out the same murderous foreign policies in order to enrich the mic ?
apply the fleming’s law of probability, *once an accident, twice a coincidence, thrice…….*
would the mic earmark andre vltchek as potus ?

what if vltchek run for prez and god forbid, something went wrong with diebold and he enter the wh ?
dont worry , plan b would kick into action.

william blum
*If I were the president, I could stop terrorist attacks against the United States in a few days. Permanently. I would first apologize to all the widows and orphans, the tortured and impoverished, and all the many millions of other victims of American imperialism. Then I would announce, in all sincerity, to every corner of the world, that America’s global interventions have come to an end, and inform Israel that it is no longer the 51st state of the USA but now — oddly enough — a foreign country. I would then reduce the military budget by at least 90% and use the savings to pay reparations to the victims. There would be more than enough money. One year’s military budget of 330 billion dollars is equal to more than $18,000 an hour for every hour since Jesus Christ was born. That’s what I’d do on my first three days in the White House. On the fourth day, I’d be assassinated.*

Why the west thinks RT is winning the propaganda war and wants a bigger budget.. Because it don’t take much to blow up the hot air balloons… As long as some credible source shows up and refutes the lies.

Geopolitical Gaslighting, Propaganda & Disinformation

What is gaslighting?

Gaslighting is a form of mental abuse in which false information is presented with the intent of making a victim doubt his or her own memory, perception and sanity. Instances may range simply from the denial by an abuser that previous abusive incidents ever occurred, up to the staging of bizarre events by the abuser with the intention of disorienting the victim. The term “gaslighting” comes from the 1938 play Gaslight.

The term is used in clinical and research literature generally in the context of abusive relationships but it can also be applied in the context of media propaganda.

The book State of Confusion by Dr. Bryant Welch, (2008) discusses gaslighting in regards to US media and its effects on the American public. Dr. Welch is an American psychologist and attorney who spent half of his 30 year career in Washington DC working for the American Psychological Association.

He explains that the human mind does not cope well with uncertainty. It will always gravitate towards a reality that feels correct based on our own perceptions but that may not be actual reality. He goes on to explain that it is much easier to gaslight someone who has dealt with some sort of traumatic situation.

A mind that is already on shaky ground will grasp onto any scenario that seems accurate, as long as it simplifies a confusing situation.

“The most apparent aspect of international gaslighting to me is the use most authoritarian regimes make of simply asserting a false reality and then “mandating” that people will treat it as true. After a while it becomes very destructive for people. This has happened in most authoritarian regimes.” – Dr. Bryant Welch

Gaslighting & Propaganda in Social Media

It has become increasingly more difficult for governments and mainstream media to control news narratives with the advent of social media.

Social media has revolutionized the media landscape. We are in the middle of a media revolution right now and it’s a pretty exciting thing. Previously, the news would report events on our TVs and radios (in varied degrees of truth) but now the audience talks back – and talks to each other. When MSM misrepresents something, we can count on twitter to make them correct their narratives. Social media is breaking the spin cycle.

What are the expected results from gaslighting?

From a clinical standpoint, usually a gaslighting victim becomes anxious, depressed, confused and demoralized. When gaslighting is done effectively the victim is rendered incapable of logical thinking and relies solely on the gaslighter to dictate what is “real.” A properly gaslighted victim feels helpless to rebel against the gaslighter.

Overcoming the effects of gaslighting

So how do with fix this mess? If we add censorship, media distortion and propaganda to swirling conspiracy theories, the end result is a clusterfuck of extremely misinformed people not to mention anonymous masses of victims we know nothing virtually about.

A Russian parody of the allegation that Russia was preparing to nuke Sweden. Brilliant if you understand Russian, первая дочь gave it a big thumbs up and первая внучка (aged four) was bopping away to it. Even if you don’t understand Russian – the subtitles are quite good. Enjoy the Resistance!

I see people ask the question here many times,”if the immigrants are assaulting European women in Europe,why are there never videos of it” (assault BTW is not always rape or sexual assaults. Assault isn’t necessarily sexual under the law.) Here is one posted of an assault in Sweden:

A question prompted by several earlier articles: if someone says the Jews are running America, and the gas chambers are a myth, and the Jews wrecked Mother Russia etc. etc. – is this a case of walking and quacking? And if not, why not?

reader’s comment,
*I wonder where the 20 Chinese nuclear fusion scientist are that went missing in MH370? Valuable personnel assets to have in a competitor’s country.*

i heard a dozen of top chinese defence scientists were onboard mh370, but their speciality is in electronics.
anyway if this is true then mh370 was most likely hijacked , not shot down.
these *high value assets* would be thoroughly grilled for all their worth and later killed off and dumped into a shark pool.

As the tides are turning in Syria thanks to the Russian Aerospace Forces, the US/UK mainstream media now want to draw sympathy to the “moderate rebels.” Even Joe six-pack average isn’t buying that line, a very encouraging sign if you read the comments section (when allowed) in the establishment press. (aren’t these the same son-of-a-guns that brought down them Twin Towers?!)

The regime changers proxy army are running for their lives. Surprisingly, much of the public isn’t buying the neocon/deep state propaganda like it may have in the past. Alternative outlets are making a difference. Keep it up Saker!

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