AFA: Gays in the military are all threats to national security

“…every homosexual represents a heightened security risk”

This guy is ridiculous. Obviously he is way off and unethical here. You can expect that from this bunch. But let’s just follow his premise and statements to their logical conclusion.

He is referring to the repeal of DADT as treasonous. He states that the threat gays pose to national security is “just one more reason they shouldn’t be allowed to serve.” But he fails to remember that DADT wasn’t about allowing them to serve, it was about forcing gays and lesbians to lie about it – and always worry about slipping up just that once.

Apparently he wants to go way beyond DADT, he wants to pass YES ASK YES TELL AND GTFO YOU HOMOS legislation. He also apparently cares deeply about the LGBT community, and simply wants them to seek mental help.

How can someone be so simple-minded so as not to recognize the beautiful civil rights victory that continues to play out? How can you look at this incredibly moving picture from last week – the so called ‘Navy’s first gay kiss’photo and only see two threats to national security?

This is what Bryan Fischer says threatens our national security.

From King Lear: “Thou rascal beadle, hold thy bloody hand! Why dost thou lash that whore?… Thou hotly lust’st to use her in that kind, for which thou whip’st her.”

This is why, whenever I hear some bigmouth in Washington or the Christian heartland banging on about the evils of sodomy or whatever, I mentally enter his name in my notebook and contentedly set my watch. Sooner rather than later, he will be discovered down on his weary and well-worn old knees in some dreary motel or latrine, with an expired Visa card, having tried to pay well over the odds to be peed upon by some Apache transvestite.

Christopher Hitchens Hitch-22: A Memoir

The American Family Association has pissed me off before. They put out a massive email campaign to get a Veterans Affairs worker fired for doing the right thing. She was simply making 4 local Texas groups to get permission before praying over the bodies of military veterans, during their official funerals.

I’m likely to be buried in Texas, and they literally wanted to force prayer over my dead body. Thousands of you read about the sneaky AFA campaign here, and we successfully countered their tactics. (Or they didn’t work this time for other reasons… but nobody else was responding to the thousands and thousands of letters that AFA is capable of generating. Take a bow, internet atheists – you did good.)

Btw, you might want to lay off the repeated use of “homosexual” – especially as a noun. Not the first time I noticed this. It’s considered too clinical and somewhat derogatory these days. Most style guides recommend to use “gays and lesbians” instead. You’ll see that used by most newspapers

Justin Griffith

@2 Steve,

Now amidoinitrite?

http://www.facebook.com/LisaTaylorGeisler lisageisler

Clearly this man is just a hateful prick. Also, the awesome irony of his claim that gays in the military couldn’t be trusted with secrets- they’ve been serving in secret for years!

As far as the repeal of DADT goes, it’s nice to be able to see my gay and lesbian shipmates live more openly proud and happy. Congratulations to us all for a more integrated military!

beerslayer

I have yet to understand what “threat” these people think homosexuals pose to the military or anyone else. I could understand (though not sympathize in the slightest) if they simply hate gays, but how do these people think about a gay person and visualize a threat? This makes no sense whatsoever.

Unless the threat is to their own carefully crafted hetero reputation… “save me from temptation” and all that. Sheesh.

frankb

If gays and lesbians have to serve in secret, they can be blackmailed. So repeal of DADT removes any security risk. So once again these bigots have their logic backwards.

BdrLen

I’ve been in the army long enough to know that shouldn’t be called the navy’s first gay kiss.

…Just sayin’

-An Army guy

Steve

@frankb

That’s exactly the kind of thinking that had Israel get rid of its ban in the early 90s. They didn’t kick out gays, but rescinded their security clearances which basically ended their careers. It was justified with the risk of blackmail. Then it dawned on someone that people who don’t have to hide something can’t be blackmailed. Duh.

Kathy Killen

He forgets to mention on here that the reason gays have higher mental health issues is because of the hatred we endure from every direction we turn. It’s caused by our accuser. And just because our numbers are higher, the rest of the population just have a lower number, but never the less they too have mental health issues – so therefore no group of people should be in the service because they all have mental health issues within their group. What a a hateful dumb ass.

http://timgueguen.blogspot.com tim gueguen

I wonder what people like Fischer think of the fact that gay weddings have been held on Canadian military bases, and that there are gay married Mounties. Yet somehow Canada hasn’t dissovled into anarchy.

http://grahamshevlin.com/current Graham Shevlin

Now then Tim, none of that mean tactic of trying to confuse Mr. Fischer with the facts…

‘Tis Himself, OM.

Tim,

That’s Soviet Canuckistan you’re talking about. It’s not like the US&A. Here in ‘Murica we gots to worry about gays doing nasty stuff and getting blackmailed and like that there. :-þ

http://quirkyniki@wordpress.com Niki M

Probably according to Fischer, Canada’s already a lost country, waiting to fall into God-wrath any day now…

Just you wait…

sandiseattle

Well they said similar things when “Truman burnt the toast” and integrated the Army. Seems that was a false start, with a small amount of growing pains. This probably will be too.

Vin Rohm

When we force people to hide a part of themselves from the view of peering eyes we create in them a leverage by which they may be blackmailed into the service of others. When we do this to people who guard our secrets, we are setting them up for failure. If the end of DADT did anything, it was to remove that leverage by which the gay and lesbian might be cooerced to betray their country. We still have many cheating husbands and wives in the military who may still be so leveraged to avoid having their affairs exposed. They, and not gays and lesbians, are our greatest threats to national security.

StevoR

From King Lear: “Thou rascal beadle, hold thy bloody hand! Why dost thou lash that whore?… Thou hotly lust’st to use her in that kind, for which thou whip’st her.”

Great quote.

Classic Hitchens one there too. Thanks.

ema

Isn’t Fischer the piece of garbage who said that the Medal of Honor is now, you know, girly because it was awarded to Salvatore Giunta for saving lives rather than killing people?

I work for an organisation that deals with matters of national security in my country (NZ) and as soon as I heard about this I rang my boss to see if he knew about the gays in the intelligence team and what they might they might be up to. I’m the Minister’s advisor for emergencies over the summer break, so I thought perhaps we should prepare a brief about this very important matter. My boss told me that would be a ‘career limiting’ move and if I didn’t have anything better to do he would send me down to Christchurch to help with the clean up after the most recent large earthquake. I think that just shows how far the infiltration has gone.