The IP address 127.0.1.1 in the second line of this example may not be found on some other Unix-like systems. The Debian Installer creates this entry for a system without a permanent IP address as a workaround for some software (e.g., GNOME) as documented in the bug #316099.

Anyway, I can login from multiple computers at the same time, in the same homedir... all works fine too

12:29

Except Firefox refuses to be started twice, on different computers, because it says it's already running somewhere

12:29

I wonder if anyone knows a workaround

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<vlt>

Hyperbyte: Its called chromium.

12:35

Hyperbyte: But it's the same with OO/LO or Thunderbird,, isn't it?

12:37

<Hyperbyte>

Thunderbird I'm not using

12:37

LibreOffice asks if I want to continue anyways, so not an issue

12:37

Firefox refuses to start.

12:37

And Office is not so much of an issue, this is for the radio station....

12:37

I have three PC's in front of me

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(work screens near the mixing desk)

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Chances of me needing Office more than once are very slim

12:38

Chances of me wanting to open three different webpages on all three PC's are pretty big

12:38

Anyway, I've done some hack... we'll see how it goes

12:38

Before Firefox starts, a small script removes the lockfiles from the home dir.

12:39

It might screw up some session settings not being stored, but I don't care much about that.

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<alkisg>

MonkWitDaFunk: "where i recycle, we pixie boot our clients to run badblocks and memtest86 " ==> it'll be much easier if you just put those in a bootable CD or USB stick

12:47

Hyperbyte: logging in with the same users/home dir is not recommented, as other programs also have problems with that

12:47

<Hyperbyte>

alkisg, yeah, I know it's not, but I really don't have much choice.

12:47

Or at least I don't think I do.

12:47

<alkisg>

Why not? Maybe there's some better way to organize things...

12:47

<MonkWitDaFunk>

wouldnt badblocks run faster if you network booted from a good computer

12:48

<Hyperbyte>

Three computers, standing nex to eachother, and I want the same user profiles on all three. How would you do it?

12:48

*next

12:48

<alkisg>

MonkWitDaFunk: the program would be loaded in the computer ram, so it would run at the same speed no matter how you load it

12:48

And netbooting over wireless does require some local storage first

12:48

So you'd have to use a CD or a usb stick anyways

12:49

<MonkWitDaFunk>

ok. thank you

12:49

<alkisg>

Hyperbyte: same user profiles... does that mean that any changes are lost after logout?

12:49

<Hyperbyte>

alkisg, no

12:50

I log in as janmiddelkoop on three computers before I start my program.

12:50

Four if you include the one where I prepare my program before going live.

12:50

<MonkWitDaFunk>

badblacks is run as linux

12:50

<alkisg>

Hyperbyte: so, suppose you visit some web pages with firefox, and it saves them on logout

12:51

If you logout from pc #1, it saves them. Then if you logout from pc #2, it saves them, overwriting the ones from pc #1.

12:51

<Hyperbyte>

That's the only downside.

12:51

<alkisg>

And you don't mind about problems like that, but you do want other data synced?

12:51

<Hyperbyte>

Preferably that wouldn't happen, preferably it would save them both.

12:51

But I think that's not going to happen.

12:51

So right now, I don't mind those problems, but I want as much synced as possible.

12:51

<alkisg>

Not the only... e.g. you might even have settings corruption, with the gconf database being completely broken etc

12:52

Programs are not designed for that usage scenario

12:52

<Hyperbyte>

alkisg, only some I think.

12:52

<alkisg>

So you want synced as much stuff as you can get, or just the actual files, and not the settings?

12:52

<Hyperbyte>

dconf database corruption I haven't seen yet... but that's dconf, not gconf.

12:52

alkisg, settings too.

12:53

<alkisg>

I think dconf would be prone to settings corruption too, if you have 2 user dgonf daemons listening there

12:53

It depends on the implementation

12:54

<Hyperbyte>

Haven't seen it happen yet... and everyone at the radio station does this.

12:54

<alkisg>

And of course some programs might even fail to start

12:54

<Hyperbyte>

With sshfs it wasn't a problem, probably because locking works differently there

12:54

But with NFS, Firefox locks the homedir down across computers.

12:54

<alkisg>

E.g. suppose "tuxpaint" locks ~/.tuxpaint/settings, and then you try to run it again, it won't launch because the settings file is locked (just an example, not a real one)

12:54

<MonkWitDaFunk>

hey ppl of ltsp. i think the linux terminal server project is perfect for the light industrial setting

12:55

<Hyperbyte>

Yeah, but the software we use is pretty straightforward. Firefox, OpenOffice, rdesktop/vnc. Basically it. I know it's not ideal, but from a user perspective, this is the best solution I think.

12:55

<alkisg>

So what if 2 users open the same openoffice document at once, and try to save it?

12:55

user #1 changes are lost?

12:56

<MonkWitDaFunk>

file server?

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<Hyperbyte>

alkisg, it's one user though

12:57

I can't edit one file on two computers at the same time

12:57

Well I suppose I could, but then it would be my own fault

12:57

Everybody has their own account, they just use it multiple times

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<markit>

alkisg: btw, yesterday I logged as user "marco", then rebooted the client, relogged as "marco" but the gnome-fallback desktop "froze" (just the wall paper displayed, not menu etc), is the bug about some daemon not quitting you told me time ago? Is just a matter of "slay" user from server to fix when doing experiments?

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17:43

<ltspuser_04>

Hello There!

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<||cw>

mornin

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<ltspuser_04>

Can anyone tell me if it is possible to enable the rdp redirection from a ltsp server to a windows server

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<effenberg>

ummm

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<||cw>

ltspuser_04: redirect in what way?

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17:53

<ltspuser_04>

I what to have the possibility to boot both ubuntu and windows

17:53

<markit>

alkisg: I've installed lxde and seems really to use few ram, but xfce creators says that is just because it misses a lot of stuff xfce has, and if you add those xfce is not worse. Also since I use KDE programs a lot, would love to see if Razor-QT DE will evolve

17:53

<ltspuser_04>

like this example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJmMcNPBgig

17:53

<markit>

http://razor-qt.org/

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<||cw>

ltspuser_04: can't do video's here.

17:54

<ltspuser_04>

search for "LTSP to Windows Terminal Server (RDP)"

17:54

<||cw>

ltsp has an rdesktop "screen" that can directly to a windows rdp. you can set up an ltsp menu to let you choose linux or windows

17:54

<ltspuser_04>

That seems good

17:55

how can i do it?

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<||cw>

in lts.conf

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<ltspuser_04>

i have been searching for documentation but i cant seem to find it

17:55

do you have an example?

17:55

<||cw>

use the MENU_ITEM* and MENU_COMMAND* directives

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gotta run, bbl

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<markit>

ltspuser_04: I've some old note about setting the client do directly (and only) to rdp server with

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SCREEN_07 = "rdesktop -f -d domain -u '' -r sound:local"

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RDP_SERVER = "10.1.1.10"

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or something like that, just in case it's of any help for you

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(parameters for lts.conf file)

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<effenberg>

like in the video, yeah

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<alkisg>

markit: It's true that lxde is missing stuff, but I'm not sure if we do care about the stuff it misses. E.g. we don't even need network manager, and logout inhibitors might even be bad for schools, etc