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JONeal was actually one of the main reasons why the Warriors were able to piece it together and put up an effective Stop in the 4th QTR. Bogut wasn't doing that good.

As for Hansbrough getting 3 assists....he didn't really score that much.....his job out there is to hustle and board and scrap for putbacks. BTW...I have no idea what Dwayne Casey is trying to do. He chooses....YES....HE CHOOSES.....to play Hansbrough over Amir OR JonasV ( which ever one is doing better ).

Vic had a triple dub tonight. Watching the game now. Aaron Afflao should get some all-star buzz. It sucks he plays for the Magic and he wont get any votes.

I bet he nets the Magic a ton if they trade him at the break. If I am a team that is one piece away I would go all in to get him. That Dwight Howard trade keeps looking better.

Due to our finances, his contract, and how much more consistent he should be, a part of me wonders if we would want to base a deal around Lance for Afflalo. He'd fit in so well with this team; knocking down shots, playing D, knows how to play to win, and ORL adds another big talent. Risky, but that goes both ways and could pay off for both teams.

Just throwing it out there.....but anyone else thinks that Kidd "reassigned" Frank cuz he was concerned that he could be in the "hot seat" and the only Assistant that could potentially replace him is Frank himself?

After Brooklyn Nets coach Jason Kidd blistered top assistant Lawrence Frank in a staff meeting on Nov. 4, the partnership was irreparably damaged and ultimately spiraled to its end on Tuesday, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

Hours after a blowout loss to the Orlando Magic – Kidd's first game on the bench following a two-game suspension to start the season – the entire coaching staff witnessed Kidd lose his temper with Frank and escalate a strangely uneasy and brief coaching partnership together.

There had been conversations about moving forward together in recent weeks, league sources said, but the decision to let go of Frank was Kidd's choice.

Due to our finances, his contract, and how much more consistent he should be, a part of me wonders if we would want to base a deal around Lance for Afflalo. He'd fit in so well with this team; knocking down shots, playing D, knows how to play to win, and ORL adds another big talent. Risky, but that goes both ways and could pay off for both teams.

I thought about that as well, though I don't think that's the type of move you make now unless Lance really starts fading for a bit. The financial part really is a good question though to ask.

"It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

It's really pretty unbelievable to think 41-41 can get you a homecourt spot in the east lol. Our "worst case scenario" is tied with Chicago's 3rd place projected W/L.

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"It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

Due to our finances, his contract, and how much more consistent he should be, a part of me wonders if we would want to base a deal around Lance for Afflalo. He'd fit in so well with this team; knocking down shots, playing D, knows how to play to win, and ORL adds another big talent. Risky, but that goes both ways and could pay off for both teams.

This coming from the guy that was suggesting to "sell high" on PG24?

Wait...was that you or Peck?

From a financial and "Sell High / Low Risk / Medium Reward" POV.....it would work...but Afflalo has a Player Option in 2015-2016 and he's earning $7.5 mil. I'd only consider it if the Magic or some other Team ( through a 3 way trade ) was offering Lance WAY MORE than $7.5 mil a year in a contract ( I'm talking about some $8-9 mil a year offer....which would put the Pacers over the LT ) and Bird doesn't think he's worth that much.

NOTE - I know that some may scoff at Lance getting some $8 to 9 mil offer....but if some Team REALLY wanted him...knowing that the Pacers CAN offer him something within the range of $7.5 mil...I can see some Team OVERPAYING him to win his services. Heck, even structuring the offer in such a way that would make it difficult for the Pacers to match without going over the LT for the 1st 2 years of his contract.

But if Lance could get $7.5 mil on the Open Market....which I think is on the middle-tier of how much he'd get.....then why trade for Afflalo when you can get Lance for the same price?

I believe Peck was the one who famously said PG's trade value was never higher.

"It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

I think it would be interesting if the NBA decided to incorporate an NFL or MLB style standings, where there's a west, central, and east for both conferences. It would never pass but be interesting nonetheless.

"It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

Has anyone ever visited a Miami LeHeat fan message board. Here is something you may not know.

1) Spoiled bunch of pompous babies. Claim their fanbase is superior to ours yet fans leave games when LeHeat are up 20 with 6 minutes to go in a game. They did not even sell out lebrons home opener in Mia. Yet say Pacer fans are not loyal. I cant defend the years after the brawl and Reggie retiring except in that we know Indiana is a hotbed for hoops (college and HS).

2) They cry and cry and cry and cry and cry and cry some more over officiating. The typical LeHeat fan believes the officiating was significantly favoring the Pacers in the ECF.

You all, I hate the LeHeat as much as the next pacer fan, but after visiting a leHeat message board, omg, they are complete ******. They should start handing out tampons at home games there just from all the crying they do. It truly sickens me how spoilded that fanbase is.

3) Oh, and now that ESPN is covering the Pacers the leHeat fans are simply pi$$d about it. apparently Miami Heat fans feel like their team is not on ESPN eunff and that the BnG is receiving too much press coverage.

I really hope to see Bird, Vogel, and Team beat them down. I cant even imagine how much they would pout and moan about the officiating if that were the happen. these leheat fans I don't think know what true pain is yet when you see yuour team lose.

sure they lost a finals but knew they would be back. if we go and fkn TAKE THE CROWN from these ***** there is going to be an increase in demand for Prozac.

I truly have reached an all time high on how much I despise the leHeat. they are on the fkn tracks the trains is coming through on.

It's really funny with what's going on in the East atm. Many people, including me, was hyping it up and thinking it would be for the first time really open. Miami, Indiana, NY, Brooklyn, Chicago for the crown and also expecting Cleveland and Detroit making some noise.

Has anyone ever visited a Miami LeHeat fan message board. Here is something you may not know.

1) Spoiled bunch of pompous babies. Claim their fanbase is superior to ours yet fans leave games when LeHeat are up 20 with 6 minutes to go in a game. They did not even sell out lebrons home opener in Mia. Yet say Pacer fans are not loyal. I cant defend the years after the brawl and Reggie retiring except in that we know Indiana is a hotbed for hoops (college and HS).

2) They cry and cry and cry and cry and cry and cry some more over officiating. The typical LeHeat fan believes the officiating was significantly favoring the Pacers in the ECF.

You all, I hate the LeHeat as much as the next pacer fan, but after visiting a leHeat message board, omg, they are complete ******. They should start handing out tampons at home games there just from all the crying they do. It truly sickens me how spoilded that fanbase is.

3) Oh, and now that ESPN is covering the Pacers the leHeat fans are simply pi$$d about it. apparently Miami Heat fans feel like their team is not on ESPN eunff and that the BnG is receiving too much press coverage.

I really hope to see Bird, Vogel, and Team beat them down. I cant even imagine how much they would pout and moan about the officiating if that were the happen. these leheat fans I don't think know what true pain is yet when you see yuour team lose.

sure they lost a finals but knew they would be back. if we go and fkn TAKE THE CROWN from these ***** there is going to be an increase in demand for Prozac.

I truly have reached an all time high on how much I despise the leHeat. they are on the fkn tracks the trains is coming through on.