But this happened to me yesterday in MY OWN PARTY!!!! AND it was during x3 HH!!! OMG - I lost like .000000003 per kill...

The other healer in the party kept stealing heals from me, I had nothing to do but run after everyone naked making bad jokes.

I was reduced to pleading with party members to please do stupid things to put their lives at risk. Well, needless to say, the other healer HEALED THEM TOO!!

I tried healing monsters. GAH, even that didn't work.

FINALLY the other healer left (don't healers EVER sleep??) but by then HH was over.

Obviously, there's an epidemic - look what you started Kate!!!_________________

Astraia lvl 54 HL Arch Mage Clan Leader, Dark

@ Asti, o im sry, i inv u to the pt a the healer, then told every1 ele to bring whoever they wanted, i didnt think the other healer would HS u :(, im sry...but dw, the other healer is on my blacklist ok...thnx for lettin me know bout the HS...i wish ppl could do sumn bout it :/...

I've pwrlvl'd my share of characters as well as other people. But as must as I love power lvling a lvl 1 to 30 in a day, I can understand why many people can be frustrated about people getting power lvled, especially nowadays.

I may be in the minority on this issue but I think it may be time to put lvl restrictions on maps depending what level you currently are. In other words, you must be "at least" a certain lvl to be allowed in a map/field.

@ Original...that would be perfect...ofcourse it would me no real pwlvl for even the experienced players, but it doesnt matter, any tank or healer or dd, should know how to play their characters' role in the game, and pwrlvling doesnt do that...the last mmorpg game i played was Knights Online, and that game had required lvls to go into advanced maps, i didnt mind at all, cuz their was so much to explore in the maps i could play...that is really the only way to stop power lvling...again, i feel ANY tank 40+ should be able to tank NV/MF/SD with confidence, aswell as the parties confidence in him/her...same for the healer/dd.

Although u didnt mention power leveling, what your talking about is that infact. Another reason is for the drops/drop rate. Ok, let me start by mentioning, we didnt have Flabis when i started playing, the highest we had was MF. I did finish all my quests on order aswell. Even back then it was hard to find partied for FC/NV/MF but we did. Oh another thing, QP, DQP, COC, DCOC are the only instant dungeons, FC/NV/MF/SD are elite maps, Flabbis, Flammio, etc are regular maps. The droprate your mentioning apply to instant dungeons, not elite maps, u dont get hero from instant dungeons, likewise u dont automatically get a drop in elite maps. Instant dungeons are pre-elite maps basically, Elite maps are the REAL TEST. If you cant master an elite map, you shouldnt move forward untill you do master it. My reasoning: Especaily as the Tank, DD's (with all due respect, i was DD too) have it so easy compared to the tank, the healer must be expienced aswell. But the tank must not only know his/her skills fluently (CD time, aggro amount and aggro skills, aoe for aggro) but they must also rotate the camera view regualry to keep the party safe from Bads/Respawns/afk'ers/straglers. No one else will hit the provoke key or charge to save a healer in time but you, no 1 else will hit wide provoke or weaken area to save the party when u loose aggro but you. As the tank you not only control the pace of the party but also the route. You must know your skills and when to use them, wheather in a combo or when aggro is fluctuating.

...In Flabbis...lol...all you have to do is sit in one spot while others lure and use splinter...LOL

Yea, its great exp at your lvl, but skipping the ELITE MAPS, wil do you and anyother 30-40 flabbis grinder more harm than good, you wont realize the neccasity for def as the tank, the right skills as the healer/dd when entering MF/SD. But im not all for FC, anyways, cuz even 25-30 lvls mostly dont know about target sharing, etc. but really NV/MF shouldnt be skipped at all.

In conclusion, the exp u gain in FC/NV isnt as mcuh as Flabbis, agreed. But the experience you LEARN as a Tank/DD/Healer u gain in elite maps vs Flabbis is the difference in 50+ noobs or 50+ pros.

lol, man, honestly, why would u attempt a build like this???, first off, unless a mage can "Tank" MF/SD 45/50+ then the "Tanker Mage" is just a myth...It is for me atleast, ive never seen one, i heard of a few times of it, but never seen it. The main feature of a tank is defense, aoe skills/aggro skills are a must but without proper defense, u wont stay alive long enuf to pull off ur skills lol. Proper defense, hm...from my experience, i would say 4000-5000+ (or somewhere around there) for MF, and 5000-7000+ (or somewhere around there) for SD. Unless u dont mob, if your only taking the small mobs (3 monsters, a shooter and 2 others) u might be able to technically call it "Tanking" but the amount of time ur runs will take will be so much more than a OHS, and probly cant do bosses either, lol. Even though what ur saying is almost unheard of, id like to see it lol...My defense is 8k-10k, and my mobs are the biggest ull ever see in SD, id like to see any mage tank SD...:)

In conclusion, hm, u should play the game the way it supposed to be played...a healer heals, a DD deals damage, and a tank tanks...if u try to make the mythical tank mage, u wont have the needed skillls to tank in elite maps, only in flabbis really i guess. Tanks have an assortment of aoe/aggro skills to choose from, which u have no access to, ull only have access to high dmg skills, which doesnt neccassarilly mean aggro. A tank must control the mob to were the party doesnt get touched only you. As far as gear, if u dont plan on spending hundreds of real money, forget about this whole thing, the default cap on gear leaves a huge gap between fighter and mage gear, its rediculous, so even if u cap it at 56, 77, 88%, it wont even come close to that of fighter gear at the same %'s. not to mention sowels, mages dont have the same HP as a OHS does, not even close, u will need to sacrifice Int/Energy sowles for Stam, but if u do that, ur atks/mana will fall short. idk even know what to say anymore, this whole thing is ubsurd lol, nothing personal, but ive never seen a "Tank Mage", heard of it yea, but only heard of it.

@ Yllnath, what your describing is in fact Target Sharing, any other way might compromise aggro, so yes Auto-Target Sharing, or w/e she referred it as, is the method intended in gameplay. One thing to keep in mind, you have the Passive Threat skill, only accessible to tanks, when u utilize a combo as soon as u get the mob, you wont get aggro taken from you, regardless dmg inbalance between you and the dd's. And, i dont see how youd expect the party DD's to keep sharing your target by not auto target sharing, lol she was doing the right thing, as a DD by target sharing. Right click the tanks name, select Target Share, Press F, and atk...

Idk bout other pplz but i know tanki spent alot more than that :), i myself broke 1500 last week, and im sure vice spent more than tanki, i cant think of any others in the 1000 category though besides shinkiro too. besides that, and freinds/clan theres no other reason to keep playing asda for myself atleast...rom is has alot more too offer though, just being honest, dont get me wrong, im a dedicated asda player, but the main thing for me has been, 10-40 u have quests, never really bored, 40-50 tryin to catch up, become pro...50-55 cant wait to wear hero sowels (the difference maker), 55+...nuthing else, but sd...-_-, but ill wait to see wat the new map is, will probly just be like another sd, etc, noobs power lvl...just like flabby, yea we grind from lvl 1, and take time to lvl and learn about the game, they way its supposed to be played, etc. and sum1 powerlvls to 50 in a week -_-, yea real good for the game -_-...im not asda bashing at all, but idk, i cant exactly just stop playing, being that i spent as much as i have -_-...o, btw my sm been mia for like a month -_-, just got clan/freinds to play for/with...well ttyl

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