definitely the stealth chopper. i had a game on slums today where it picked up 9 or 10 kills. my warthog got zero.

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I never had Warthog get me zero kills, but it definitely needs a buff. On a side note. One time I had my anti air class on and a Warthog still killed me without any teammate being near me. WTF? Blind Eye and Cold Blooded didn't stop jack shit.

no what i mean is the agr if you let it do its own thing is pretty bad. at least compaired to what can be done if i control it...i mostly play dom. and ill admit i was surprised it got 4-5 kills while not being contoled but i can get 8-10 with it. apperently ppl still have no idea what to do when they see it....EMP duh!

no what i mean is the agr if you let it do its own thing is pretty bad. at least compaired to what can be done if i control it...i mostly play dom. and ill admit i was surprised it got 4-5 kills while not being contoled but i can get 8-10 with it. apperently ppl still have no idea what to do when they see it....EMP duh!

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I get 6-10 kills with almost every AGR. It's foolish to control it unless it's your highest streak and even then it's unnecessary if you know where to place it.

no what i mean is the agr if you let it do its own thing is pretty bad. at least compaired to what can be done if i control it...i mostly play dom. and ill admit i was surprised it got 4-5 kills while not being contoled but i can get 8-10 with it. apperently ppl still have no idea what to do when they see it....EMP duh!

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I get 6-10 kills with almost every AGR. It's foolish to control it unless it's your highest streak and even then it's unnecessary if you know where to place it.

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well i think its fun to control and i only use it if it comes throu CP....

no what i mean is the agr if you let it do its own thing is pretty bad. at least compaired to what can be done if i control it...i mostly play dom. and ill admit i was surprised it got 4-5 kills while not being contoled but i can get 8-10 with it. apperently ppl still have no idea what to do when they see it....EMP duh!

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I get 6-10 kills with almost every AGR. It's foolish to control it unless it's your highest streak and even then it's unnecessary if you know where to place it.

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well i think its fun to control and i only use it if it comes throu CP....

If it goes to a quiet part of the map, just bring it yourself back to the center and leave it there, that's what I do. The AGR is one of the toughest streaks to take down too, is not weak like dat dragon fire.

If it goes to a quiet part of the map, just bring it yourself back to the center and leave it there, that's what I do. The AGR is one of the toughest streaks to take down too, is not weak like dat dragon fire.

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oh gez dragon fire is extremly weak. i can get quiet a few kills with it but its soooo weak to bullets!

If it goes to a quiet part of the map, just bring it yourself back to the center and leave it there, that's what I do. The AGR is one of the toughest streaks to take down too, is not weak like dat dragon fire.

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I beg to differ. It's one of the easier scorestreaks to take down. Dragonfire can be tough to take down, it all really depends on who is using it. If someone is constantly moving with the dragonfire, changing levels and what not, you may never shoot it down (it will self destruct eventually, obviously).

AGR... on the other hand... one EMP grenade and about a whole clip of my SMG... and it's done. All I have to worry about is not getting caught in the crossfire when it malfunctions. If I have two EMP grenades that last bit isn't even a problem. On the Second EMP it will just explode. Sadly my go to class only runs with one EMP, but now that I finished my headshot challenges I will be running a class with two for the time being.

Speaking of AI controlled streaks. I was just playing ground war KC on Meltdown running VSAT > EMP > K9 Unit. I went through it twice in one life and two sets of dogs got me a grand total of 2 kills. That is ridiculous! Two sets of puppies in gw only gets 2 goddamm kills? I almost threw my controller out the window.

Speaking of AI controlled streaks. I was just playing ground war KC on Meltdown running VSAT > EMP > K9 Unit. I went through it twice in one life and two sets of dogs got me a grand total of 2 kills. That is ridiculous! Two sets of puppies in gw only gets 2 goddamm kills? I almost threw my controller out the window.

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I wish the dogs were faster and I wish the AI was smarter to know to stay away from the guy that's up high killing each of them and seek out another choice! Also, if people can climb a vehicle to get away from the dog, the dog should be able to climb it too.

I just watched watched the gameplay again, my dogs were running around all stupid running into walls and shit, I think both sets were glitched out somehow. I got a single set two games later that got like 10 kills.

i don't know if the warthog needs what you'd call a "buff" .. because when it hits it certainly kills. it's not properly finding people or whatever it's doing. i don't know the basics of it. 4 runs over the middle? 4 different sections of the map? would seem better if you could control it like a lightning strike. sometimes i'll get 8, 9 kills on the first two runs. other times i get 1 kill total on all four.

the one thing i do like about it is the points you can bang out. at random times it seems to take out people on flags, equipment, etc.. and points go flying up. i guess maybe that's why it's not as good as it's supposed to be? kind of a high risk thing.

I just watched watched the gameplay again, my dogs were running around all stupid running into walls and shit, I think both sets were glitched out somehow. I got a single set two games later that got like 10 kills.

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Different breeds maybe? The first set was beagles and the next was the German Shepherds.

i don't know if the warthog needs what you'd call a "buff" .. because when it hits it certainly kills. it's not properly finding people or whatever it's doing. i don't know the basics of it. 4 runs over the middle? 4 different sections of the map? would seem better if you could control it like a lightning strike. sometimes i'll get 8, 9 kills on the first two runs. other times i get 1 kill total on all four.

the one thing i do like about it is the points you can bang out. at random times it seems to take out people on flags, equipment, etc.. and points go flying up. i guess maybe that's why it's not as good as it's supposed to be? kind of a high risk thing.

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Buff as in it should average more kills than a Stealth Chopper if it requires more points to reach. i know there are variables like buildings, and people using Blind Eye, but after using them both, they seem identical in reward.

i don't know if the warthog needs what you'd call a "buff" .. because when it hits it certainly kills. it's not properly finding people or whatever it's doing. i don't know the basics of it. 4 runs over the middle? 4 different sections of the map? would seem better if you could control it like a lightning strike. sometimes i'll get 8, 9 kills on the first two runs. other times i get 1 kill total on all four.

the one thing i do like about it is the points you can bang out. at random times it seems to take out people on flags, equipment, etc.. and points go flying up. i guess maybe that's why it's not as good as it's supposed to be? kind of a high risk thing.

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Buff as in it should average more kills than a Stealth Chopper if it requires more points to reach. i know there are variables like buildings, and people using Blind Eye, but after using them both, they seem identical in reward.

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it should. but, as i was saying above, i think they might have designed it for the overall points it brings. more than a few times it has taken me right to my dogs, sometimes before it even reaches it's 3rd run. that's near 300 points (the equivalent of 12 chopper kills.) for example, i had this a few games ago..

so i only had 3 kills, but 225 points. it pushed me right to the dogs. i don't know what it did exactly on that 2nd run for those kills to be worth 100 a piece.. but i assume they must have been on a flag or something. it seems to come down to the high risk thing i was saying. you might be able to get 8 kills and 500 points.. or 1 kill and 25 points.

i don't know if the warthog needs what you'd call a "buff" .. because when it hits it certainly kills. it's not properly finding people or whatever it's doing. i don't know the basics of it. 4 runs over the middle? 4 different sections of the map? would seem better if you could control it like a lightning strike. sometimes i'll get 8, 9 kills on the first two runs. other times i get 1 kill total on all four.

the one thing i do like about it is the points you can bang out. at random times it seems to take out people on flags, equipment, etc.. and points go flying up. i guess maybe that's why it's not as good as it's supposed to be? kind of a high risk thing.

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Buff as in it should average more kills than a Stealth Chopper if it requires more points to reach. i know there are variables like buildings, and people using Blind Eye, but after using them both, they seem identical in reward.

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it should. but, as i was saying above, i think they might have designed it for the overall points it brings. more than a few times it has taken me right to my dogs, sometimes before it even reaches it's 3rd run. that's near 300 points (the equivalent of 12 chopper kills.) for example, i had this a few games ago..

so i only had 3 kills, but 225 points. it pushed me right to the dogs. i don't know what it did exactly on that 2nd run for those kills to be worth 100 a piece.. but i assume they must have been on a flag or something. it seems to come down to the high risk thing i was saying. you might be able to get 8 kills and 500 points.. or 1 kill and 25 points.

The chopper and warthog have netted be a decent amount of kills. Two dog uses got me 19 kills (12 the first, 7 the second). Swarm got me 3.

Then again, I've had games where I've used lesser streaks like Lightning Strike and Hellstorm missile and I've gotten zero kills from both due to map design/team mates killing them just before they hit.

Right now I average 4 kills with the Stealth Chopper and 4 kills with the Warthog-- which is obviously a problem. The chopper costs a few hundred less and gets the same amount of kills.

So far, the VTOL and K9-Unit have been my best streaks, with an average of 8 kills a piece.

Buff as in it should average more kills than a Stealth Chopper if it requires more points to reach. i know there are variables like buildings, and people using Blind Eye, but after using them both, they seem identical in reward.

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it should. but, as i was saying above, i think they might have designed it for the overall points it brings. more than a few times it has taken me right to my dogs, sometimes before it even reaches it's 3rd run. that's near 300 points (the equivalent of 12 chopper kills.) for example, i had this a few games ago..

so i only had 3 kills, but 225 points. it pushed me right to the dogs. i don't know what it did exactly on that 2nd run for those kills to be worth 100 a piece.. but i assume they must have been on a flag or something. it seems to come down to the high risk thing i was saying. you might be able to get 8 kills and 500 points.. or 1 kill and 25 points.

i just saw it destroy a sentry gun and it gave me 125 i think. so i'm pretty sure that is what it's about. half kills, half points. actually, not bad when you think about it. shock charges, betties, claymores, tac inserts, sentry guns, guys on flags. anything in its path is worth points.

warthog is ownage on certain maps, buffs would be ridiculous imo for that. chopper ive gotten anywhere from 4 to 10 kills, maybe even past 10 on rare occasions.

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None of my Warthogs has ever gone ape shit though. Maybe if I used it more, I would say it's fine. All we can go is on averages.

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true.. like how SOME manage to get multiple swarms and dogs and completely slaughter a team. I dont get how their match even keeps going. people always back out on me if I do good like that.

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I had one game where I had 2 VTOLS, interspersed with another player getting one in between them. People backed out, but the game never ended.

Has anyone seen an inconsistencies with points gotten from streaks? Usually, I only get 25 points from a Hunter Killer, but I threw one the other day, it killed two people and gave me 100 points a piece. I've also has UAV assists give me 20 instead of 10.

None of my Warthogs has ever gone ape shit though. Maybe if I used it more, I would say it's fine. All we can go is on averages.

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true.. like how SOME manage to get multiple swarms and dogs and completely slaughter a team. I dont get how their match even keeps going. people always back out on me if I do good like that.

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I had one game where I had 2 VTOLS, interspersed with another player getting one in between them. People backed out, but the game never ended.

Has anyone seen an inconsistencies with points gotten from streaks? Usually, I only get 25 points from a Hunter Killer, but I threw one the other day, it killed two people and gave me 100 points a piece. I've also has UAV assists give me 20 instead of 10.

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idk, interesting though.

man I rarely even surpass 60 kills in this game just because the players either sit back, back out or im pitted against a full party. lol I always wondered what would happen if I got on board with a clan or whatever. my friend who is terrible at COD supposedly picked up MOABs when he was partied up, I pretty much NEVER get into parties. darn