Just not sure what H&H are thinking other than "Fuck You Fans!" How about a WR or LB? Oh wait, let's take a shitty DT tackle from UC. He won't have to drive that far to get here and we can save on a plane ticket. I guess I wouldn't be a Browns fan if I wasn't disappointed.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Why are we taking a DT when we have Rubin, Sheard and Taylor?

Sheard is a defensive end.

Rubin and Taylor are starters yes, but you need to have a good rotation system in place. That's why he was drafted.

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

But why didn't we just draft him in the 7th round then? Or the 6th if we really really liked him and wanted to make sure nobody snaked him out from underneath us?

Can't answer that.

The Browns big board is way different than say Mel Kipers, Todd McShays, etc. We don't know why Heckert has him rated that high.

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

I said Tr or a QB at 1 , we got both , doesn't Matter he wasn't Tannehil , it mattered he wasn't RG3 .

We have a big armed QB and Colt is dead .

Now go back t whackin off your gums Bitch.

SoulDawg

Bwahahahahaha

Tannyhill blah blah blah blah.

Told you it was TR.

Told you Weeden was the QB left they liked.

Now you go flap your gums with your sound and fury and keep crying about Weeden.

SD:

Right fucko you told me Weeden at 22 after we missed Wright and panicked and picked him before 37 where he was slated .

Right .

I said before the draft didn't care who the Browns drafted if he was a player in the first and that TR the heavy favorite would be a star , although I prefered Tanne for the long haul and pimped my choice .

We have a solid running back , that cost us extra because we lost are leverage allowing Hillis to walk , with him on the roster we could have simply picked Blackmon and had weeden his weapon and added running back in the second and been set.

The Vikes worked Heckert like Millen worked Butch .

No matter they learned their lesson after cocking off the RG3 pick and didn't play cute on either Tr or Weeden and stepped up and took both guys they wanted .

Weeden signals a clear they have to win now mindset , I'm down with that .

Kudos to you lbsouth and anybody else who pimped him all along .

I had my reservations and still do .

Now he's a Brown he belongs o me same as everybody else and , he carries the stake to stick in Colts heart so I ain't bit mad with the choice.

But Fuck you if you want to play the genius that now all of a sudden your Smaaaart .

Quick show me your Board where you had Swartz a in the second and Hughes in the third

I'm w/SD. Hughes was obvious reach but fans will justify Weeden because that's what they do. It was still a reach there. Also agree he's now mine and I'll live and die with him.

None of us know. But when experts and pro personnel people are laughing and scratching heads it's another data point. Maybe H&H are smarter than everyone. They've certainly earned that distinction thus far.

I won't argue that any pick we've made was a reach in some degree, but I think you have to take our entire situation into consideration. Reach, OK, but out of desperation, urgency, etc...that is where the argument really is.

Maybe the only real advantage of having Holmgrem is that the players we've accumulated in the past 2 seasons will fit the scheme of the guy he will hire as HC in the next 9 months if Shurmur doesn't get er done (b/c MH will look for a coach of similar X & O background). Don't laugh, it's a legit possibility.

Bottom line for me is on paper the Cleveland Browns are better today than they were on Thursday on 7:15pm EST. That and $8.50 will get me a Chipotle burrito bowl.

Criminals in this town used to believe in things...honor, respect."I heard your dog is sick, so bought you this shovel"

The Hughes pick is the only one that really irritates me at this point.

Weeden was likely too high, but if you think he's your Franchise QB, you make sure you get him.

Will he be? Hard to say. But he was the only QB in the draft after RG3 that might be. I do really like his skill set and production. It will be refreshing to watch a QB that can actually throw the ball again - as JB said Friday morning, DA with a brain.

Hikohadon wrote:The Hughes pick is the only one that really irritates me at this point.

Weeden was likely too high, but if you think he's your Franchise QB, you make sure you get him.

Will he be? Hard to say. But he was the only QB in the draft after RG3 that might be. I do really like his skill set and production. It will be refreshing to watch a QB that can actually throw the ball again - as JB said Friday morning, DA with a brain.

FUDU wrote:I won't argue that any pick we've made was a reach in some degree, but I think you have to take our entire situation into consideration. Reach, OK, but out of desperation, urgency, etc...that is where the argument really is.

Maybe the only real advantage of having Holmgrem is that the players we've accumulated in the past 2 seasons will fit the scheme of the guy he will hire as HC in the next 9 months if Shurmur doesn't get er done (b/c MH will look for a coach of similar X & O background). Don't laugh, it's a legit possibility.

No, it's really not. The only truthful thing (and I don't mean that in a bad way) that Holmgren has said in the past 2 years is "that's the last coach I'll hire".

Holmgren is not going to get the chance to fire Shurmur - if the Browns don't show improvement this year and get the fan base at least hopeful, then Lerner pulls the trigger and/or Holmgren pulls the ripcord and "retires".

I don't need to be patient, they're going to be shit forever. - CDT, discussing my favorite NFL team