No debunking and disruption. Debunking and disruption will lead to suspension.

The existence of Planet X and the truthfulness of ZetaTalk are not debatable.

This ning does not focus on religion or politics, so these types of questions will be declined as a distraction from the issue at hand.

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No personal counseling is done.This rule has been in place since 1996. Questions should be of broad interest to the general public.

Correlation or resolution of ZetaTalk with the work of other channels or authors isnot done unless they predict and have a prediction accuracy track record, as otherwise they are not a peer of ZetaTalk which does so. This rule has been in place since 2002. Just because another website or author makes a statement does not make that statement true, nor will the Zetas explain to you why their statements are not true, as then they are taking time out to address the issue.

The Zetas, as all visitors, are under rules on how they interact with humanity. They are not here to rescue you. They cannot divert Planet X just as today they do not prevent droughts or floods. The Earth is mankind’s schoolhouse whereby he learns to help his fellow man.

The date of the pole shift cannot be given, but the sequence of events can be given. [ Link ] Check the ning pinned discussions and blogs for such information as the 7 of 10, the last weeks, etc.

Note the Zeta's words on wasting the opportunity to pose question to themselves, and get a response via Nancy. They do not suffer fools gladly, and this will increasingly be the case.

This is an opportunity to discuss the public's expectations of Nancy, who is a single person, 70 [73] years old, with health concerns, who works every day for as many hours as her health allows on getting the message out to the world. She was asked, in the early days of ZetaTalk, to be as educated on astronomy as astronomers, and did so to a degree that allowed her to support the imaging of the inbound Planet X. She supported our debates on sci.astro on the absurdity of human math when faced with reality, on the matter of why the Moon is in the skies and not crashing to Earth, even though she does not speak math any more than she speaks Greek.To properly translate our concepts, Nancy, as she has so often mentioned, must be on the same page as ourselves, versed sufficiently in the subject to understand our response. Thus she has been asked to be educated to the level of a biologist or geneticist on the matter of the hybrids, to be a geologist on plate movements, to be a vulcanologist, to be a hydrologist on water movement, to be an archeologist re ancient civilizations, to be an electrician when discussing survival equipment, and to be a sociologist and political scientist on the matter of human behavior. Where images do not exist on the web, she draws them sufficiently to explain our words. We do not, on every answer, require Nancy to spend hours positioning herself such that she goes beyond what is needed to relay our message.

Bear in mind, during these chats, what you are asking of ourselves and Nancy. You have a resource here which you are regularly wasting and exhausting with idiotic questions! Nancy has warned that the time is quickly coming when you will get no response from her at all, just a statement as to which questions will be accepted. You have complained when she told you, in no uncertain terms, what was wrong with your demands or your questions. But those who do not learn are destined to be ignored, which is what is coming next.

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Was this related to an actual earthquake that was later deleted by the USGS, or was this an intentional warning to the public to bring awareness about coming earthquakes in the region similar to the one in 1925? Also, how could past earthquake data get into a live seismic warning system, and even if it did, why would the date be 100 years later after the event? Below is the e-mail I received from the USGS yesterday about the 6.8 earthquake as I am subscribed to their earthquake texts and notifications. And also the e-mail I received about an hour later that the earthquake was deleted by the USGS[and from another]California earthquake alarm sounded - 92 years late.http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40366816A computer error caused the US Geological Survey (USGS) to issue the false alarm about the magnitude 6.8 quake. The quake actually took place in 1925 when it laid waste to the city of Santa Barbara and caused 13 deaths. In a statement, the USGS said its computers had "misinterpreted" data causing the alarm to be wrongly issued. The federal body said work it was doing to revise and update information about where the historic quake struck had caused computer systems to misinterpret the data and think it was seeing a novel event.[and from another]http://www.cisn.org/scmc.htmlM6.8 - SANTA BARBARA CHANNEL, CALIFEvent ID: ci 37161284[and from another]https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/ci37161284#executive[and from another]https://www.eturbonews.com/157834/devastating-earthquake-alarm-los-...

SOZTThe clue to why a quake was reported as an alert, 92 years after the fact, lies in the explanation given to the BBC. The USGS process reported was to “revise and update information about where the historic quake struck”. Why does one need to review and update historical information? One does not CHANGE historical information, particularly one where the location had been precisely noted at the time. The USGS has inadvertently given the public an insight into how much they manipulate quake data.

They identify quakes by location, and if a quake occurred out in the ocean, or in a sparsely populated area, it is marked for deletion, reviewed, and then dropped. Then the remaining quakes are reduced in magnitude by almost 2 full magnitudes steps. Due to the increasing ferocity and number of quakes jolting the Earth at the present time, this computerized process is tweaked frequently, the programs changed. Software is never clean of bugs, which lie in wait for the right circumstances before they become evident, and bugs are often introduced during change.

Software engineers have test data and do extensive testing prior to releasing new software. Using old, historical, data for the test bed would be ideal. Test data needs to simulate reality, with a broad variety of circumstances, and historical data contains that. But during these tests, the end result, automatic alerts and posting to websites, would be blocked. What occurred during this USGS blooper is that a test run was started before the setup was complete. The quake magnitude was not reduced, and the alert was not blocked.

What should be understood is the amount of stress and anxiety that those aware of the cover-up over Nibiru have - while maintaining the cover-up, doing their job, yet unable to inform their friends or alert the public. Those at the USGS who program the quake data manipulation are clearly aware of what is pending for mankind, the devastating quakes ahead, and many grieve and struggle with their options. If they leak the truth, they would likely have an “accident”, be killed. So they drink too much, are distracted, and make mistakes.EOZT

Who is starting these fires? London and Paris, both cities that have had ISIS attacks, but ISIS handiwork is bombs and stabbing and mowing down pedestrians with a vehicle, not fire. We had a fire in Boulogne-Billancourt in a Paris suburb on June 25. Last December, 2016 migrants were burned out in a fire in Boulogne-Billancourt . Grenfell in London was primarily housing Muslim migrants. The newest fire at Bethnal-Green has a Muslim MP Rushanara Ali talking to the press. London of course has a Muslim Mayor – Khan. Is there any relationship to the recent hacking of British parliamentarians and PM May, which is asserted to be a fishing trip for blackmail material?[and from another]June 25, 2017. https://www.rt.com/news/394007-paris-suburb-fire-boulogne/A fire started in an apartment building in a suburb of the French capital. Police suspect arson, saying the fire seemed to be “deliberate.” The fire seems to have broken out at three separate apartments. All are located on the fifth floor. Boulogne-Billancourt came into the spotlight in December of last year when a fire broke out at a migrant reception center there. One man died in that blaze after jumping from a third-floor window to escape the flames, and thirteen people were injured. Six migrants were rescued by firefighters.[and from another]June 25, 2017. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4635754/Firefighters-tackle...Dozens of firefighters have tackled a huge blaze at a block of flats in London. It comes just days after the Grenfell Tower tragedy in north Kensington which has left an estimated 79 dead and hundreds more without homes. Labour MP Rushanara Ali, who was at the scene, said “There are police officers and fire service personnel dealing with it - there's still smoke.”[and from another]June 23, 2017. http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/parliament-hit-by-cybersecu...Hackers have launched a cyber attack on Parliament in a bid to break into the email accounts of MPs, peers and their staff. The National Cyber Security Centre (NCSC) and National Crime Agency are probing the incident, which comes after reports that passwords for Cabinet ministers and MPs were being sold online by hackers.

SOZTThese fires, deliberately set and intending to send a message, are not the handiwork of ISIS. Their message is clear – immigrants go home! Where the influx of immigrants from Syria has been a factor in Britain and France for years, the local population has been frustrated in their attempts to find a voice. Immigrants have competed for social services, which in any case are paid for by the hardworking taxpayers. Traditionally, Europe has had an open door, an open border philosophy, and welcomed immigrant workers. These attitudes do not change overnight.

But is there more to this? Many hands can start fires, inciting copycat fires to follow suit. Knowing this, covert interests that want to rid Europe of the threat of ISIS have joined this effort. They are aware of the takeover plan by Erdogan and Merkel,http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/01oc2016.htmto control the new Europe in the Aftertime, using an army of obedient young Muslim soldiers. Sending the immigrants back to Syria,http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue555.htmis a worthwhile plan, but will take too long in the opinion of these covert interests. This is a battle with many fronts and many parties, and only just beginning.EOZT

Are they talking about Nibiru?[and from another]More articles about Planet 9, Planet X, and now there is a Planet 10. Hmm? Lots of articles. Will Planet 9 be explained before the de-facto announcement re Nibiru? Is it all to show that the astronomers involved in the Prongs are hard at work? And what IS Planet 10?[and from another]Strange Orbits of Distant Comets Hint that a Mysterious 'Planet 10' could be HidingJune 22, 2017http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4628266/Planet-size-...The as-yet unconfirmed world, known as 'Planet 10', has been proposed after scientists spotted that icy objects in a region beyond Neptune have wonky orbits. The Kuiper belt is an icy, halo-like region that extends outwards from Neptune to a distance around 55 times further from the sun than Earth is, or 55 AU. It is thought to be the remains of the violent and chaotic collisions that led to the formation of the planets. There are an estimated 33,000 objects more than 60 metres across in the belt and three dwarf planets.[and from another]New Wrinkles in the Search for “Planet X”June 21, 2017http://www.skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-news/solar-system/new-wrin...Even as the count of known planets around other stars continues to climb, a small group of observational astronomers and dynamicists are fixated on something much closer to home: tantalizing clues that a super-Earth-size planet lurks undiscovered somewhere beyond the Kuiper Belt in our own solar system. Some have dubbed it "Planet X," others "Planet 9," and right now observing teams are using some of the world’s largest telescopes in a race to track it down. One big problem is that they’re not sure where to look — or if it even exists.[and from another]Mysterious ‘Unseen Planetary Mass’ Lurking at Edge of Solar SystemJune 23, 2017https://www.rt.com/viral/393710-mysterious-unseen-planetary-mass/All planets in our solar system orbit around the sun on the same plane but, according to the measurements made by the research team, the most distant Kuiper Belt objects (KBOs) appear to be tilted away from this by about eight degrees. This indicates that something unknown is warping the average orbital plane of the outer solar system. The paper also ruled out the possibility that the mysterious object could be ‘Planet 9’, pointing out that this planet is predicted to be much bigger and much farther out.

SOZTThe Prongs that were to lead to an admission that Nibiru was in the inner Solar System - had arrived in 2003 according to the Zeta coordinates, and was next to the Sun at present causing an Earth wobble, erratic weather, and electro-magnetic disruption - had STALLED in the Fall of 2016. Stalled but not dead. Prong3 had emerged in the Summer of 2016 and all that was needed was for the Dark Energy Survey to inspect its infra-red charts over the years to “discover” Nibiru’s arrival and current location. The establishment knows they must inform the public and can wait no longer. So they are back to educating the public about proper terminology and providing evidence.

Planet 9 was a confusion between Nemesis and Nibiru. Planet X was a term applied to every rock discovered since 1983 – Eris and Sedna, etc. Planet 9 was assigned to Pluto until it fell from grace. Now the proper term for the Sun’s dark binary – Nemesishttp://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue178.htm – has been in print lately. Nibiru likewise appears in print, in what seems to be a gradual announcement,http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue557.htmaccustoming the public to concepts long debunked. Will the Prongs spring back into life? This is one of many possibilities, many routes to an admission that Nibiru has arrived. We must decline to reveal more, as to do so would alert the cover-up over Nibiru.EOZT