Bucky Katt:Haven't laws like this been ruled unconstitutional already.

I think its safe to say a law that gives you a potential 3 year prison sentence for wearing ill-fitting pants is unconstitutional. Doesn't stop them from making a dumbass commercial threatening it, though,

I don't get how the pants don't fall down but I also don't understand why people care how others wear their pants. I work with African American adolescent males aged 13-17 at my job. If it did bother me I wouldn't have made it past the first day.

This type of law is how racists continue to subvert the African American populations in America. You'll never hear a racist use the n-word. You'll never see a racist dressed in a KKK robes. You'll never be shut out of a restaurant run by racists. It's not how they work anymore.

Now they pick cultural aspects and vilify those. "Tough on crime", "anti-baggy pants legislation", "3 strikes and you're out", "welfare queens", and "urban culture" are all code words that racists use to target the black race without either using the word 'black' or specifying blacks in particular. They hone in on behaviors that society at large feels negatively towards and use that to create a system of laws that keeps blacks under the thumb of white society.

So exposing one's boxer shorts by sagging one's pants constitutes "open and gross lewd and lascivious behavior", while all the upper middle class white guys here on the Cape can (weather permitting) jog down public roadways wearing only a pair of jogging shorts that are more revealing than any pair of boxers. That sounds perfectly reasonable and not in any way designed as a means to harass people from "undesirable" demographics.

Quaker:So exposing one's boxer shorts by sagging one's pants constitutes "open and gross lewd and lascivious behavior", while all the upper middle class white guys here on the Cape can (weather permitting) jog down public roadways wearing only a pair of jogging shorts that are more revealing than any pair of boxers. That sounds perfectly reasonable and not in any way designed as a means to harass people from "undesirable" demographics.

You ever seen a black man in a speedo, son? When they get up to speed, they're knocking people three feet away out. I once saw a man go airborne from the meatspin!

AverageAmericanGuy:This type of law is how racists continue to subvert the African American populations in America. You'll never hear a racist use the n-word. You'll never see a racist dressed in a KKK robes. You'll never be shut out of a restaurant run by racists. It's not how they work anymore.

Now they pick cultural aspects and vilify those. "Tough on crime", "anti-baggy pants legislation", "3 strikes and you're out", "welfare queens", and "urban culture" are all code words that racists use to target the black race without either using the word 'black' or specifying blacks in particular. They hone in on behaviors that society at large feels negatively towards and use that to create a system of laws that keeps blacks under the thumb of white society.

The laws are stupid. But so is walking around with your pants like that. It's like someone waving a rebel flag, you know that person probably isn't very intelligent and interactions are going to tedious.

Girion47:The laws are stupid. But so is walking around with your pants like that. It's like someone waving a rebel flag, you know that person probably isn't very intelligent and interactions are going to tedious.

To paraphrase Steven Tyler: If you can judge a wise man by the way he wears his clothes, then Mister, you're a better man than I.

It does when half your ass crack is showing. I can't think of any thing more openly gross and lewd than the ass crack of a teenaged boy.

What about that of an overweight middle-aged man? I hate when their belly forms its own kind of blob like entity and leaks down over their belt, sometimes hanging out the bottom of the shirt like this pale gelatinous beast.

AverageAmericanGuy:This type of law is how racists continue to subvert the African American populations in America. You'll never hear a racist use the n-word. You'll never see a racist dressed in a KKK robes. You'll never be shut out of a restaurant run by racists. It's not how they work anymore.

Now they pick cultural aspects and vilify those. "Tough on crime", "anti-baggy pants legislation", "3 strikes and you're out", "welfare queens", and "urban culture" are all code words that racists use to target the black race without either using the word 'black' or specifying blacks in particular. They hone in on behaviors that society at large feels negatively towards and use that to create a system of laws that keeps blacks under the thumb of white society.

nice try. you forgot "African-American", the most racial epitaph ever.

daveUSMC:Usually not the one to say stuff is racist, but this is racist.

Where do you live? I see just as many white kids doin it around here. Well ok not just as many, but maybe 30% of the offenders.

Btw, just the fact of the origin of this stupid fad makes it even stupider..I'm thinkin i'm ok with just a small fine. Something along the lines of a parking ticket, if you don't pay it you'll end up in court. That should be enough deterrence

SpdrJay:I heard Wisconsin is making skinny jeans a death penalty offense.

Listen, I would never wear them myself, but I can totally understand why a cyclist who doesn't wear bike clothes would like skinny jeans. Can you at least give a pass for folks who are trying to keep their pants out of their drive-train? Isn't that better than having them wear normal jeans, but drive a car? Those skinny jeans are making your commute shorter.

daveUSMC:Usually not the one to say stuff is racist, but this is racist.

did you ever get to go back and listen to the talk of the nation segment on women in the military?

And while I have you attention, do you know if they plan to ever let cyclists through camp Pendleton again?We used to be able to ride through, then 9/11 happened and we could only get through with a CA drivers license and last I heard now we have no access at all. We have to get on the 5 at Las Pulgas and off at the first exit and it's scary as all hell since it's 8 miles of 8 lanes of folks driving at 100 mph and really shiatty shoulders filled with debris. So, what's the deal?

We don't have a large black population around here, but I really want to walk up to the white kids that think they are ghetto and slap their hat the right direction and give them a super wedgie for letting their pants droop.

Uchiha_Cycliste:daveUSMC: Usually not the one to say stuff is racist, but this is racist.

did you ever get to go back and listen to the talk of the nation segment on women in the military?

And while I have you attention, do you know if they plan to ever let cyclists through camp Pendleton again?We used to be able to ride through, then 9/11 happened and we could only get through with a CA drivers license and last I heard now we have no access at all. We have to get on the 5 at Las Pulgas and off at the first exit and it's scary as all hell since it's 8 miles of 8 lanes of folks driving at 100 mph and really shiatty shoulders filled with debris. So, what's the deal?

When I was at Pendleton, I lived on base, so I didn't really deal with gate traffic much. Never noticed any bicyclists there going through, though. Reading transcript now.

daveUSMC:Uchiha_Cycliste: daveUSMC: Usually not the one to say stuff is racist, but this is racist.

did you ever get to go back and listen to the talk of the nation segment on women in the military?

And while I have you attention, do you know if they plan to ever let cyclists through camp Pendleton again?We used to be able to ride through, then 9/11 happened and we could only get through with a CA drivers license and last I heard now we have no access at all. We have to get on the 5 at Las Pulgas and off at the first exit and it's scary as all hell since it's 8 miles of 8 lanes of folks driving at 100 mph and really shiatty shoulders filled with debris. So, what's the deal?

When I was at Pendleton, I lived on base, so I didn't really deal with gate traffic much. Never noticed any bicyclists there going through, though. Reading transcript now.

when were you there? I kind of assumed you still were from you profile's location.Like I said we used to be able to ride through, I used to ride from my parents place in Laguna Niguel to UCSD in La Jolla. But haven't done it since they started forcing us onto the 5... HELL NO!

\On a side note, tank crossing signs are a pretty surreal sight when riding a bicycle.

It's a waist band, not a butt band, a hip band, or as noted above thigh, knee or ankle band. Some of these guys just need to go ahead and quit wearing the bottoms at all. Be proud of your return to your robe wearing roots, whether African, Middle Eastern, or Roman.

cherryl taggart:It's a waist band, not a butt band, a hip band, or as noted above thigh, knee or ankle band. Some of these guys just need to go ahead and quit wearing the bottoms at all. Be proud of your return to your robe wearing roots, whether African, Middle Eastern, or Roman.

Most modern trousers have a "waistband" that's designed to fall absolutely nowhere near the waist but close to the hip. You can't physically wear them on your waist, because there isn't enough material.

cherryl taggart:It's a waist band, not a butt band, a hip band, or as noted above thigh, knee or ankle band. Some of these guys just need to go ahead and quit wearing the bottoms at all. Be proud of your return to your robe wearing roots, whether African, Middle Eastern, or Roman.