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my quick QB notes for next year's class (podcasting tonight on QBs and always gotta talk some draft)
Sam Darnold USC 6’4" 225 lbs
Awkward throwing motion and somewhat slow processing speed but RSSO with huge potential. Strong arm to fit within throwing windows and get ball deep to test defense. Throws with surprising anticipation last season for a RS Fresh, maybe best in class outside of Falk. Looks like a linebacker, has body to slip arm tackles. Good athlete to move out of pocket and create broken splash plays. Moves well within pocket, making small movement to create space and throwing lanes. Throw off a multitude of different platforms. Can trust arm too much. Again, that throwing motion is extra odd and will need to be tightened… works for a guy like Rivers but yowza its funky.

Josh Allen Wyoming 6’5" 222 lbs
Needs to play better in pocket/within scheme but incredible tools. HUGE ARM and can make plays outside pocket that are jaw dropping in terms of athleticism, velocity, and placement. Too eager to escape and play streetball. Accuracy within pocket is inconsistent. Low comp % but in part due to distance of most throws. Way too many ‘yolo’ balls (5 ints vs nebraska). Anticipation/touch throws need work. Prostyle offense. Is the HWS type Elway loves but really has a lot of variability where he will land, cannot succeed in NFL if he just playing streetball but has the best overall tools in the class. He is what I had hoped Lynch would be.

Josh Rosen UCLA 6’4" 215 lbs
Reminds me of Matt Ryan. Smooth delivery and touch. Enough arm and mobility. Attitude? Smart. Arm isn’t wow but can put great touch and anticipation on ball.Does a great job manipulating the pocket and sliding into gap while keeping body square to deliver ball. Movement in and out of pocket is looking to throw, not run. Can get reckless though if pressure is there, too much hero instead of taking loss. Can trust arm too much and is ‘steaky’ overall. Plays prostyle system

Lamar Jackson Louisville 6’3" 205 lbs
Needs to bulk up and work on timing throws. Has a whip using his full body to get surprising velocity on ball but inconsistent ball placement… not sure NFL QB. These types scare me. Questionable read ability given he would do deep ball, checkdown, takeoff to great effect at Louisville. Not as slippery as Vick but can be gone in straight line speed. 2nd strongest arm in class. Feet are inconsistent as hell. Better version of RG3?

Luke Falk WSU 6’4" 205 lbs
Very smart and accurate qb but very skinny and not a real threat with legs. Chad Pennington level arm strength. Played in air raid. Maybe smartest qb in this class. Doesn’t feel like an Elway QB given his lack of bulk/arm/athleticism.

Jarrett Stidham Auburn 6’3" 210 lbs
Good compact athlete with wheels and arm strength to challenge vertically. Inconsistent placement and accuracy. Questionable processing speed. Playing in a spread run scheme likely hinders his development as a touch passer but has fun tools.

Baker Mayfield OKLA 6’2" 214 lbs
Not sure he is an NFL starting QB. Plays in big 12 where he can spread and play shotgun. Decent athlete with solid enough arm. Off the field issues. Doesn’t play in NFL scheme. Not sure if his skills will translate to NFL but fun college QB.

Deandre Francois FSU 6’2" 205 lbs
High upside QB pry not coming out. Inconsistent accuracy but has wow throws. Crazy good standing in pocket in pressure. Big strong guy who is more than athletic enough to handle QB. If returns, potential #1 in 2019.

Chase Litton Marshall 6’6" 225
Not the arm you want for a big qb. Awkward windup/delivery needs to be cleaned up. Can move in pocket but not a threat with legs. Mike Glennon like imo given length and lack of athleticism/arm. Has some nice touch tho when asked to escape and throw off a different platform

Nick Fitzgerald MSU 6’5" 230
Watching him it felt very Tebow like. Most of his wow plays are on the ground. Shows good arm strength but incredibly inconsistent. Plays more like a RB than a WR but has a lot of tools and one to watch this year.

I don't think Lamar Jackson's game will translate to the NFL. With Siemian starting, we aren't going to be able to get Allen or Darnold. Rosen we might be able to get if we do what the Chiefs did to get Mahomes.

im eager to see if jackson can take another step forward. His progress as a passer from his freshman year to sophomore was SUPER impressive. If he can take another step forward, along with more weight on his body, and you have a potentially very impressive and unique weapon. Will need to be utilized in a more vertical passing attack but he is fun. Has some Vick to him. Not AS shifty but the arm strength and straight line speed are there. We will see. Again, a projection.

im eager to see if jackson can take another step forward. His progress as a passer from his freshman year to sophomore was SUPER impressive. If he can take another step forward, along with more weight on his body, and you have a potentially very impressive and unique weapon. Will need to be utilized in a more vertical passing attack but he is fun. Has some Vick to him. Not AS shifty but the arm strength and straight line speed are there. We will see. Again, a projection.

That's my problem with him. He's so little and runs so much! If he doesn't change a lot, he might as well just pitch a tent on the injury cart in the NFL.

Onbe position no one is mentioning for Denver but I think may be on the table round 1 is WR. Yes, the team has Sanders and DT but both will be over 30 by the end of the season. Fowler and DT set to hit market. Not sure what we have in Henderson and McKenzie will never be a true WR. Period. There looks to be some solid depth at WR early in the draft next year (upper tier talent) in Courtland Sutton, Calvin Ridley, Equanimious St Brown, Christian Kirk, and Deon Cain. Wouldn't mind getting a young buck there that could take over for one of DT or Sanders in 3 years. Obviously depends on how board falls... but... needs to be thought about. WR isn't a 'core' position as QB/OT/Edge/CB is, but its that next tier with interior DL

Onbe position no one is mentioning for Denver but I think may be on the table round 1 is WR. Yes, the team has Sanders and DT but both will be over 30 by the end of the season. Fowler and DT set to hit market. Not sure what we have in Henderson and McKenzie will never be a true WR. Period. There looks to be some solid depth at WR early in the draft next year (upper tier talent) in Courtland Sutton, Calvin Ridley, Equanimious St Brown, Christian Kirk, and Deon Cain. Wouldn't mind getting a young buck there that could take over for one of DT or Sanders in 3 years. Obviously depends on how board falls... but... needs to be thought about. WR isn't a 'core' position as QB/OT/Edge/CB is, but its that next tier with interior DL

Watching that Chargers game, I just kept thinking about your mock projecting the Broncos to take OT two years in a row. Watching Watson get beat all night - I thought Doc is totally correct. And, if not OT, then I want Christian Wilkins (unless Gotsis plays the whole year the way he played against the Chargers).

Really like Lamar Jackson. Guy is so fun to watch. Frame worries me, not so much height. He added 10 pounds, but I couldn't tell. I actually like his arm talent better than his legs. He seems too eager to give up on a play and run instead of letting a play develop, even when it's counterproductive. I guess my biggest concern isn't that he can be a pocket passer, it's his mindset of does he have the discipline of being a pocket QB.

Tough to guess what the Broncos will do with an ever changing season. But I agree, I'd be looking at a RT right now.

My current prioritized list of round 1
1- OT: Obviously, need 2 in this division
2- Edge: Can never have enough. They normally take a year to cultivate. Barrett may walk… and I would rather have a stable of edges than another other position. STOCK UP RUSHERS
3- CB: Again… to keep this defense running the way it is, you need man corners. Those guys are almost always first round picks. Roby about to get $$$ and Talib could hit that hill in a few years.
4- WR: Sanders and DT are going to be 31 next season. Fowler is a RFA and isn’t likely to be a WR1 or 2 anytime soon. Henderson is more of a slot weapon WR3/4 and Latimer may walk. Get the QB weapons. Matchup WR are very valuable
5- DL: Can really never have enough but excited about the future of Gotsis and still think Walker ends up a decent 3 tech. Next year’s DL class looks disappointing… right now I only have 3 IDL with round 1 grades.
6- RB: CJ has been KILLER this year, but let’s be real, he is a type of player who pry doesn’t have a longish career. Injuries and physical style of play and the nature of the position. Next year’s RB class looks amazing again.
The rest: As much as we like fun TE, G, C, ILB, S… Those are positions I personally do not value round 1… esp given what they are paid on the open market and how readily available you can find a starter here. If a TRUE difference maker falls to you (say… Derwin James? won’t happen but just saying) you take it. Other than that, they are positions you can fill in FA or mid rounds fairly easily. (ILB would be higher to some teams but not in Denver scheme)

Best TE you aren't talking about? South Carolina's Hayden Hurst. Standing at 6'5" 251 lbs, Hurst is a phenomenal athlete for his size who is smooth in his routes, has great YAC ability, and shows potential to develop into a good inline blocker. Biggest knock? Will be 25 years old in August due to spending a few years playing Minor League Baseball attempting to make it as a pitcher. Still, his skill set is outstanding and should be on everyone's radar. Here is my twitter thread showing some of his skills from his game against TAMU.