Wallace & Gromit Forum - reveiw on camerashttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365
The latest news from this Wallace & Gromit Forum discussionenHotwire v0.1Message from contyhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_13595
Today ive been shopping looking for that all important camera, and fell in love with the sony w200 12.1 mp camera, but when i got home dad says that everytime i press the button to take a picture the camera will move.

He doesnt think that its the right camera for animation, that i should look for one with either an arm or remote control to take the shots so there is no movement from the camera between shots

Have any of you got any veiws on this? thanks conor]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_13595Message from cavorhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_13781
There are a lot of different cameras that you can use,
to be honest its a bit of a mine field out there, but dont panic!

I personaly prefer using a camcorder and connecting with computer to capture the frames of animation.

all cameras need to have manual setting capability.

hope this helps.

]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_13781Message from bigballbubbleheadhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_13834
see if it able to attach it to a tripod and if not(like i do)you could always tape it down also most cameras have a timer on it and you set it to 3 or 10 secs usually and just set it to that click it and it will take the pic in the amount of time set and the picture will be in focus and not moved ]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_13834Message from contyhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_13992
thanks guys for the help, but cavors right it is a mine field out there,
if i ask for help in the camera shops, they look at me blank when i say what i want the camera for, and they are no help as they know nothing about animation,

so i decided to go it the other way round, choose the software first and get a camera they recommend to use with it, but when i got to pc world (who you would think would sell the software) was told oh no too specialist for us, advised me to look on the web

so i do that, to find that its all from the usa, with high postage costs or i could download it but then i would'nt have a backup on disk if my laptop should break, and then id lose the lot, aaaahhhhh!!!!!

so im no further forward in my quest, i just want someone to say hey heres a great software that will work on vista, no problems, and this little camera works great with it,

maybe aardman ought to think about selling a kit, that they would consider putting together and selling in their internet shop, a starters animation pack, and maybe another kit for the older teens, i think they would sell loads, ]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_13992Message from cavorhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_14128
conty the stopmotionpro 3.5 i'm using works fine for me on my computer which is running on vista, also i have checked on the stopmo website which recommends xp & vista for stopmotionpro 5. You can get this direct from http://www.chromacolour.co.uk/store/animation_stopmo_software.asp hope this helps.]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_14128Message from contyhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_14193
cavor thats really kind of you to help me, thankyou, ive been on the site and had a look for the last few hours, and its great, all the info i need, stopmotionpro is going on my xmas list, i think i will still go for the sony camera as with this software i wont need to touch the camera at all once its set up, all i gotta do now is keep my fingers crossed and my bedroom tidy!!!!!!!! all the best, conor]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_14193Message from Harryhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_14198
Conty,

I Think I Have Got The Right Software For You.
But Im Not Sure What Its Called.
I Will Look On The Internet.
And Send It Here When I Find It.

Harry. [Its Free]]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_14198Message from Harryhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_14199
http://www.download.com/AnimatorDV-Simple/3000-2186_4-10668946.html?tag=lst-0-1]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_14199Message from contyhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_14245
hi harry, thankyou for that, ive downloaded it, but im gonna take a bit of time figuring it out, it looks good though, but with no instructions i think it might take me a while, thanks mate, conor]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_14245Message from Harryhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_14263
Its Ok]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_14263Message from contyhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_14324
just in case anyone is thinking of the sony w2oo, after alot of reading reveiws, its not clear that it will work with stopmotion pro

ive been on dpreview a camera reveiw site, and the canon G9 has had a fab reveiw, and it has everything that should make it work with the software, lovely bit of kit, anyway my dad has fell in love with it himself, so hes going to order it and has said i can use it as much as i like..... RESULT!!!!]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_14324Message from cavorhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_14541
The problems with digital cameras & capture animation software.
capture software is design to take pictures from a live video feed(like you get with a web cam or digital camcorder), this method is great as all you do is pose your model click the mouse, pose your model click the mouse and so on,
once you have done this about 6 or so times hit the play button to see how well the animation is going.
This camera method of animation is suitably for web or showing your work on your computer/tv.

Digital cameras give a far greater image quality which if you were looking to show your work on the big screen at a festival then then thats fine.
The down side of a digital camera is it can not be used in the same way as a web cam or camcorder as the eye of the camera is lock until shutter is depressed(no live feed).

One way around some film makers work is to have a small bullet cam(like a web cam) set up to look through the view finder of your digital camera, so you take one picture on your animation software plus one on your digital camera, by doing this your can make a hi resolution film with having the safety net of the video assist camera.

I'm sorry for the long post but as i have said before its a mine field out there.

PS
All cameras or camcorders will need to have manual setting capability, if the camera was set only to auto when it re-focuses for each shot it doesn't always focus 100 percent the same, giving the impression you are jogging the camera each time.
Good luck]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_14541Message from contyhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_14564
hi cavor thankyou for all of your advice, you've been a great help to conor, the software that you recommended has gone on his xmas list

the canon G9 that we have purchased has a remote capture utility for controlling the camera over a usb connection to his laptop,(live feed) it does also have manual focus, but weve had to step in and help him as it has been a nightmare for him trying to find the right camera by himself, and also one that doesnt completely break our bank!!!!, so i think were all done now!!!! ffeeeewwww!!!

thankyou everyone for your help, and all of the really kind helpfull comments conor has received over the last few months, its very kind of you all, thankyou melanie (contys mum)]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_14564Message from Harryhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_19232
I Might Get The...

so because the canon G9 being the new camera and it said it done live feed (which it does) we purchased it, but it doesnt work on stopmotion pro, even stopmotion pro were not aware of this and is trying to fix this problem as it was us that brought it to their attention, they thought too it would work, £400.00 down the drain!!!!! or at least untill they fix the problem if they can.

harry unfortunatly its a nightmare trying to get everything to work together, i would guess the camera isnt supported by the software that you are using, or your camera hasnt got the live feed capability, all the best in getting it to work]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_68072Message from Harryhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_69041
to conty and contys mum, well your not the only one thats got a problem with cameras, i got the fujufilm finepix z10fd for christmas and we got it and on the box it said it cant be used for a webcam so it now cant be used for animating with the program i have to use, its a nightmare and i wonder how can aardman do this, well i might have to do it the really orquard way and take the photos first and then drag them all in the right order into the programme so i hopefully will get to animating the right way once i get my dad to look at it and then i can get cracking on with the characters, so i wish good luck to me but more luck to you, hope you get it working it sounds like its taking a long time for both of us, i wish i had the money to just buy a camcorder so as i said before, good luck hope you get animating and have a good year in the animation world!]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_69041Message from contyhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_69083
its contys mum again, harry you can still use it in the way you just said, but like you said its going to be a pain keeping them in order with dragging and dropping, but harry its not aardmans fault!!

i guess its hard to choose what software to buy, then is it compatable with your computer (vista,xp etc)and then the worst bit choosing a camera that works great, without it costing a fortune, when cavor said its a mind feild out there he was sooo right!!!!
i think the animation software companies are at fault, as i think they should have a list of cameras that they know WORK!!!
stopmotion pro say to try the camera with the software before you purchase, am i thick!!! but how can you do that without buying the camera in the first place??? duh

anyway happy animating harry, i will look out for your work]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_69083Message from Harryhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_69223
hi, again, i didnt mean that it was aardman fault, sory if you thought i did i meant that how do aardman get to work so easy and theres us out there in pain finding the right camera to use, i just ordered some newplast and it will be coming tomorrow so its for a creation in the competition and it will be in late january proberly so thats a start, getting to know the plasticine i will use, well theres a whole world of cameras out there and its so hard to choose, i wanted one that would be ok quality, compact and thats what i got but no no no they dont say that it cant be used as a webcam so i got it and plugged it in for the animation and finally ended up with my camera having a blank white screen and the program said please choose a camera and the list of cameras was impossible to see, it didnt show so that was it, i might ask my dad to try, he will proberly know what to do because he was a photographer/artist and if it works after that i will tell you what i did, maybe that will help you well good luck your proberly going to get it working before me, well when you get into the animating good luck. bye for now,]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_69223Message from cavorhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_69234
Harry do you have manual over-ride or settings on your fujufilm finepix z10fd camera?]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_69234Message from Harryhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_69235
Whats That?]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_69235Message from cavorhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_69236
Do you have the instruction manual it might say.]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_69236Message from contyhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_69262
ah ha got a man from stopmotion pro helping me hes going to ring me to try and sort it out, and hes in england for a few days so has asked me and dad out for a drink, how cool!!! i might be an expert soon!!! hehehe]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_69262Message from cavorhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_69763
I bet he's visiting that place called Aardmans?]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_69763Message from contyhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_69776
good guess cavor he is, i might hide in his bag!!!! but being 6'3 i think he might see me]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_69776Message from cavorhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_70237
Lets hope he has a big bag!! ask loads of questions so you can be our stop motion pro reporter and get everyone up and running with the software.]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_70237Message from contyhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_70365
ill let you know how it goes]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_70365Message from contyhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_70728
its contys mum, i have spoken to the gentleman from smp,

there are a number of problems,

1, the biggest one, canon has made a huge mistake in my eyes, they have not yet released the development kit software to 3rd partys (lets the camera be controlled by another software)the last one being released a year ago]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_70728Message from contyhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_70735
sorry ran out of lines!!!
2nd because contys canon camera was released after the last development kit was released, it means contys camera wont work untill they do

3rd also when the development kit was released to 3rd partys vista was not out either!!!

so to sum up, if you have a compact digital canon camera that has been released in the last year, its not going to work, the only cameras that will currently work is the DSLR'S, D40, but its about £900.00
it used to be the case with smp that any camcorder would work, but that too is not always the case anymore

if you are running on xp, and have an old say G7 for example, it will all work fine, with the older version of smp,

anyway the guys from smp have gone out this week and purchased some cameras that would suit contys age group and our pocket, and they are going to run them with the new version of smp, with vista, so fingers crossed we may have some good news for everyone that is thinking of going out and buying,

and in the mean time im bugging canon to get on and release the development software, that everyones going to need!!!!!!]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_70735Message from Mark the sharkhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_78562
All of you are writing confessions! You'll have 18 pages on this forum the way you're going!]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_78562Message from contyhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_80033
sorry mark the shark, somethings have to be said!!!! anyway this is contys mum again, weve just had some help from a really super guy from smp, who has just visited us and has got contys camera and video camera going!!!! yippeeee what a relif, THANKYOU SSSSOOOO MUCH SMP YOUR WONDERFULL!!!!

we are going to keep in contact, so i will have some news soon for you all about a great little camera that they are testing for us all, so hold on before you go out and spend a fortune on a camera to go with stopmotion pro, tests so far are looking great

]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_80033Message from Mark the sharkhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_80362
Yes, somethings indeed are urgent to say. Well, I'm looking forward to the news. It'll be great!]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_80362Message from cinders1http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_89687
ive got some good news, canon have at long last after alot of pleading, released the software development kit!!!! hooray... for you that dont know what that means... it means that you can now control the canon G9 with your software, so that you can use the live feed with stopmotion pro!!!! you can take your photos through the laptop without having to touch the camera]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_89687Message from cavorhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_90095
That’s good news cinders1 Now!! the hard bit will begin as all the pictures will need resizing to get them running in an editing software for final output to video or DVD.

You can get batch processing software for the new version of Photoshop CS I do believe

]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_90095Message from cinders1http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_91147
oohhh no your not telling me i havent finished spending yet????? this studio is a headache too!!!! cleared the room out so ive made a start.

when smp man came he said that sony vegas was good, and i had a quick look, but the microsoft movie maker worked (without fx) enough to upload it on to the W&G site, so i kinda pushed it to the back of my mind for now, is that the same thing as your telling me about?]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_91147Message from Mark the sharkhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_95490
HELLO EVERYONE!!!!!!]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_95490Message from gromitlovehttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_114188
I noticed a cool stop-motion film on YouTube called Pancakes for Your Face whose maker explained his methods and his materiel (so that people would stop asking). Somehow we clicked there through a W&G youtube. By now everyone has their camera, so this isn't useful, but the video was very successful and the maker said he made a mess in the kitchen for weeks while shooting.]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_114188Message from plasjashttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_306361
well i use a jvc camcorder but sometimes my samsung d73 just a point and shoot camera. have to import the pics into SMP (stop motion pro) so i have to use my intuition with no onionskinning to know how much i move my model. JVC works ok though. it is quite old so the qualty isn't great. hope to get a dslr soon]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_306361Message from carolfungbbhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_819087
There are various kinds of cameras that you can use.

For example,

hope this helps.]]>http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_819087Message from carolfungbbhttp://www.wallaceandgromit.com/forum/read/1365#message_819088
There are various kinds of cameras that you can use.