Attorney General Eric Holder, just days after filing a federal lawsuit against Arizona’s immigration law, on Sunday floated the possibility of filing another suit on racial profiling grounds.

No crime has been committed, but Holder is set to sue.

However, Holder said on CBS’ “Face the Nation” that the federal government was leading with its “strongest” argument in the suit filed Tuesday and would not rule out a second suit months down the road — if the law ends up going into effect.

The purpose of the first lawsuit is without merit:

The lawsuit filed Tuesday in U.S. District Court in Arizona claimed the state was infringing on federal immigration responsibilities and urged the judge to prevent the law from going into effect at the end of July. Despite some officials’ claims that the law could lead to racial profiling, that concern was not cited as grounds for the suit.

It’s idiotic to sue a state for infringing on federal responsibilities when the federal government is derelict in its responsibilities in securing the borders. It’s galactically stupid to join a foreign country in suing your own people on behalf of people who are here illegally.

Ironically, Rhode Island already allows what the new Arizona law plans.

From Woonsocket to Westerly, the troopers patrolling the nation’s smallest state are reporting all illegal immigrants they encounter, even on routine stops such as speeding, to US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, known as ICE.

In the first week of January, the Justice Department filed a civil lawsuit against the New Black Panther Party and three of its members, saying they violated the 1965 Voting Rights Act by scaring voters with the weapon, uniforms and racial slurs. In March, Mr. Bull submitted an affidavit at Justice’s request to support its lawsuit.

When none of the defendants filed any response to the complaint or appeared in federal district court in Philadelphia to answer the suit, it appeared almost certain Justice would have prevailed by default. Instead, the department in May suddenly allowed the party and two of the three defendants to walk away. Against the third defendant, Minister King Samir Shabazz, it sought only an injunction barring him from displaying a weapon within 100 feet of a Philadelphia polling place for the next three years—action that’s already illegal under existing law.

Some objected immediately:

Then the Washington Times reported on July 30 that six career lawyers at Justice who had recommended continuing to pursue the case were overruled by Associate Attorney General Thomas Perrelli—a top administration political appointee. One of the career attorneys, Appellate Chief Diana Flynn, had urged in an internal memo that a judgment be pressed against the defendants to “prevent the paramilitary style intimidation of voters” in the future.

“I mean we were told, ‘Drop the charges against the New Black Panther Party,'” Adams told Fox News, adding that political appointees Loretta King, acting head of the civil rights division, and Steve Rosenbaum, an attorney with the division since 2003, ordered the dismissal.

“The [voting] section doesn’t want to protect white voters.” And he named names. He testified that Deputy Assistant Attorney General Julie Fernandes told Voting Section management that there would be no more cases brought against black defendants vindicating the rights of white victims. Adams personally heard Fernandes say that the division would only bring “traditional civil rights cases” (code words for suits against white racists). Adams also heard Fernandes say that she had no interest in the Voting Section enforcing Section 8 of the National Voter Registration Act (which requires purging rolls of ineligible voters to prevent voter fraud), because Section 8 does not increase voter turnout.

Was this a voter intimidation case? Why don’t we let King Samir Shabazz speak for himself:

The Obama administration won a default judgment in federal court in April 2009 when the Black Panthers didn’t appear in court to fight the charges. But the administration moved to dismiss the charges in May 2009. Justice attorneys said a criminal complaint, which resulted in the injunction, proceeded successfully.

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22 Responses to “No Country For White Men [Reader Post]”

John ryan

in the next election white men are expected to be 30% of the voters. As for the voter intimidation no voters at that polling place voiced any complaints, only the Republican poll watchers who were not even from that precinct. And that quote you use was not said at that poll. 2 black men with a wooden stick might be FRIGHTENING where you live, but it was not there. On the other hand maybe 3 men one with a gun might have a different reaction.DOJ did not pursue allegations that Minutemen intimidated Hispanic voters with a gun in 2006. Perez testified that in 2006, the Justice Department “declined to bring any action for alleged voter intimidation” “when three well-known anti-immigrant advocates affiliated with the Minutemen, one of whom was carrying a gun, allegedly intimidated Latino voters at a polling place by approaching several persons, filming them, and advocating and printing voting materials in Spanish.”The Republican vice chairwoman of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, which is currently investigating the Justice Department’s decision, has called that investigation “very small potatoes” full of “overheated rhetoric filled with insinuations and unsubstantiated charges,” and said it has not “served the interests of the commission”; she further said that DOJ has given a “plausible argument” for not pursuing additional charges in the case.
No voters have come forward to claim that they were intimidated from voting on account of the New Black Panthers standing outside the polling center in 2008;
The Bush administration’s Justice Department — not the Obama administration — made the decision not to pursue criminal charges against members of the New Black Panther Party for alleged voter intimidation at a polling center in Philadelphia in 2008;
As for the precinct tallies from there it was something like 568 votes for Obama and 12 for McCain

John ryan

“No citizen has even alleged that he or she was intimidated from voting.” In an April 23 hearing on the DOJ’s decision in the case, Civil Rights Commissioner Arlan Melendez stated that “no citizen has even alleged that he or she was intimidated from voting,” which “was clear to the Justice Department last spring, which is why they took the course of action that they did.”

The hard right gets hooked on every urban myth
THERE WERE 2 BLACK MEN WITH A WOODEN STICK !!!! so frightening

Robert

WOW John that was hilarious…How about mentioning that the area of which the “minutemen” were carrying a gun was an OPEN CARRY state, they were also over 100 ft away from the polling place which is LAW. They were not “intimidating” voters they were monitoring for ILLEGAL VOTERS since the feds weren’t doing it. I also don’t recall any verbal insults being yelled at the voters.

Liberpukes have a lot of fun making up facts but their facts are seriously lacking truth.

The real reason the Obama admin is courting the KKK…Oops Black Panthers…Oops NAACP is the hispanic voters are running away from Obama because Obama is removing JOBS from them faster than a fence on the border would. Hispanics realize they need employers and Obama is making the nation a welfare nation. Hispanics are a lot like white folks for the most part, they want to work hard and take care of their family…

The black vote is also failing for Obamacrats. WHY? Well for one they got out the vote in 2008, the first black president was the cry…Not a racist action at all huh? 95% of Blacks voted for Obama because of his “Change” mantra. Not at all because of his color

Now roughly 25% of the blacks in America are not happy with Obama’s economic policies, why? because like the hispanics they have no work and the lower end of the social structure is being hit hardest. Nobody is hiring because of Obama not because of the economy. Business leaders hate NOT KNOWING what’s going to happen with taxes and health care and a host of other factors.

Obama didn’t pay the rent or put gas in the car or pay the light bills of the voters that elected him and that’s going to cost him in 2010 and 2012.

DrJohn

Dr.D

@ John ryan

Please go back and read what you have written. Do you honestly think that this will persuade anybody at all, anybody with a brain? You don’t need to tell us, but do be honest with yourself. How can your write such nonsense? Is it not evident to you that what you say is foolishness? Do you not see how hard you are having to stretch your ideas to try to make them sound reasonable?

You have a reputation here at FA for writing foolishness, and it is easy to see why. The big question is to what end? Do you have nothing better to do with your time? What a pity!

And, here we have an editorial written by Bartle Bull, a life long civil rights worker who happened to be at that polling place to witness the NBPP’s in action:

“…I had been Robert Kennedy’s New York campaign manager in 1968, had worked for Charles Evers when he ran for governor of Mississippi in 1971, and had worked in South Carolina against Strom Thurmond in 1978. In Mississippi I had stopped the voting in the towns of Red Lick and Midnight and made them remove nooses that were hanging from tree branches outside the polling places. But never until I went to Philadelphia on November 4 had I seen a man with a weapon blocking the entrance to a polling place.

It was his group that called the police and press to film the two idiots.

Anyway, as you can see, John Ryan was corrected by Amy Proctor way back on July 3rd. A portion of her response:

This is the first time you heard this because you obviously didn’t watch any of the videos I posted. The renowned civil rights lawyer Bartle Bull, a lifelong Democrat who worked with Ted Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr to ensure voting rights during the civil rights movement, was confronted at this polling place and told by the Black Panthers, “Now you will see what it means to be ruled by the black man, cracker.” He was also intimidated with a bully club held by one Panther s well as intimidate in the court room during the initial trial. A white Army veteran interviewed in the video was told not to enter but he walked through anyway and was told while inside the polling place not to go outside for safety reasons since he was white. There are many other whites who would not go on film but who participated in the initial investigation and court hearing before the case was dropped by Eric Holder.

He mindlessly persists spinning misinformation as far and fast as he can.

mathman

You all need to get a grip.
It is impossible for blacks to be racist. It is impossible for blacks to intimidate whites.
The Obamanator’s Pastor, Reverend Wrong, has taught us that 400 years of oppression by whites must be responded to by 400 years of oppression by blacks of whites.
Zimbabwe, here we come.
The Department of Justice has its charge: reparations for slavery. This means no crime committed by blacks on whites will be prosecuted; crimes by whites on blacks will be invented and prosecuted vigorously.
The racist divide will be the core of the 2012 Presidential campaign.
No black will be permitted to vote Republican. No white will be permitted to vote Republican either.
We will have an election which is in the tradition of Saddam Hussein and Mahmoud Ahadminejad, which is to say that the filled-out ballot will be handed to us for us to use in voting.

Missy

DOJ did not pursue allegations that Minutemen intimidated Hispanic voters with a gun in 2006. Perez testified that in 2006, the Justice Department “declined to bring any action for alleged voter intimidation” “when three well-known anti-immigrant advocates affiliated with the Minutemen, one of whom was carrying a gun, allegedly intimidated Latino voters at a polling place by approaching several persons, filming them, and advocating and printing voting materials in Spanish.”

Wrong, I will c&p because you are known to not visit source sites that refute your gibberish:

Another point: These same liberals are making the false claim that the Bush administration failed to file similar charges against members of the Minutemen, “one of whom allegedly carried a weapon while harassing Hispanic voters in Arizona in 2006.” “Allegedly” is the correct term to use: While I was not at theJustice Department in 2006, I have talked to sources inside the Civil Rights Division who were and who have first-hand knowledge of the facts of this matter. The Voting Section sent lawyers to Arizona to investigate these allegations. They were told that the people in question (who were apparently there with some sort of English-only petition) did not enter the polling place and stayed outside the state-imposed limit around polling places where campaigning is forbidden. No one (including Democratic poll watchers) saw them talking to any voters while they were there — nor could the lawyers find any evidence that they prevented or discouraged anyone from entering the polling place (which is directly contrary to the witnesses in the NBPP case, who testified that they saw voters approaching the polls turn around and leave when they saw the Panthers blocking the entrance to the polling place).

The Voting Section was not able to make any recommendations to move forward with a lawsuit because the career lawyers assigned to the case could not find any evidence to support the claims being made. In fact, the Voting Section even referred the case to the criminal section (headed up by Mr. Kappelhoff, the trusted Obama confidant), who also declined to do anything about it. There was no viable case to be “dismissed” by the Bush administration. Some of the individuals pressing this preposterous comparison are the same militant partisans who masqueraded as career civil servants for many years in the Civil Rights Division but whose true political colors were always on full display. These individuals are as unworthy of credibility as their absurd allegations.

Finally, and perhaps most importantly, at its last hearing, Civil Rights Commissioner Todd Gaziano (who is also my colleague at the Heritage Foundation) expressed particular interest in securing testimony from the individual who would know the most about the Arizona case the liberals keep mentioning: Chris Coates, the former Voting Section chief, whom the Commission has subpoenaed. The department has ordered Mr. Coates not to comply with the lawful subpoena because he would tell too many inconvenient truths the Holder DOJ would prefer to keep bottled up. Here’s hoping that Congress may finally be able to help and apply more pressure on DOJ to stop stonewalling the commission’s investigation.

— Hans A. von Spakovsky is a former commissioner on the Federal Election Commission and a former counsel to the assistant attorney general for civil rights at the Justice Department.

No voters have come forward to claim that they were intimidated from voting on account of the New Black Panthers standing outside the polling center in 2008;

Yes they have, and you already know that.

The Bush administration’s Justice Department — not the Obama administration — made the decision not to pursue criminal charges against members of the New Black Panther Party for alleged voter intimidation at a polling center in Philadelphia in 2008; As for the precinct tallies from there it was something like 568 votes for Obama and 12 for McCain

That’s also been blown out of the water, you also already know that. Your spin is also debunked by Spakovsky in the same reference posted above.

Voters were turned away, even if it were only 6, 12 or 1, the thugs illegally intimidated voters from their right to vote. The “civil” case could have led to a “criminal” case and that BTW is the way these cases are carried out at the DOJ. Filing a “civil” case firsts allows the department to stop the evil doers from same future behavior and go after the organization, then they file a “criminal” case.

Wm T Sherman

We’ll have an empirical indication of how much all this matters in November. Is there going to be a lot more of this, or not?

The big story is not a few racist clowns in army pants. It is the culture of selective enforcement in the DOJ Civil Rights Division, and by extension an administration that cultivates that culture, and by further extension a liberal media establishment that makes excuses for it. We see the direction this is going and wonder, what else are they doing, and what’s next.

Remember that J. Christian Adams and other DOJ insiders have brough forth other instances of vote fraud and voter intimidation cases dropped due to melanin content of the perpetrators – and these were larger and more systematic cases.

Gerry

Is there anything in the 16 page Arizona law that is not part of accepted US law?!?!?!

I don’t believe the major critical point has been mentioned. –

Each illegal alien under the protection of the Obama regime is a potential democratic voter. Arizona merely wants to take the state back from those destroying it! The current administration needs votes, therefore their platform is Down With Arizona Up With Illegals! Protect your voter base at all costs.

As to “Racial Profiling” Check out the statistics relative to illegal aliens in California. And this is spreading throughout the country!

Tom in CA

Responding to John Ryan is futile. The guy’s a dope. You can’t expect a dope to listen to reason. Just pretend he is the smelly old uncle that has boatloads of bad jokes and lead him to a corner and let him talk to the intersection of the two walls.

Mr. Irons

Holder should tread carefuly here with his arrogance of being, “correct.” Even if he, “wins” this legal situation he is positioned to lose on the cultural side of this battle on a National scale. Arizona’s ruling body is considering going rogue about enforcing their border with Mexico with various other state bodies including Utah’s backing Arizona’s actions. The only course for Holder to deny Arizona of enforcing 1070 will be to request Obama to declare martial law in any states like Arizona and detain legal citizens who try to protect their cities or homes as criminals while ignoring the true criminal cartels who smuggle in various tonage of drugs and disturbingly higher numbers of human hostages/slaves. The Nation is already a powder keg of anger and frustration at the Federal Government for many various reasons connected to incompetence, what happens in Arizona from the Federal’s side of actions could spark out right defiance by the Legal Citizens of the United States, or at the least the ruling State bodies of various States being treated as hostile enities instead of members of the Republic. Corrupt federal law making and enforcement be damned.

The New Black Panther situation will only further destablize all that has been done to mend wounds that were slowly healing. Idiots like these have no idea that their own actions reopens the nearly 300 some year old wounds, but makes it almost sickly justified by radical white groups to, “defend themselves against black aggression” after the disturbing, ““You want freedom? You’re gonna have to kill some crackers. You going to have to kill some of their babies” statement from Samir Shabazz. Such words is enough to cause some fool seeking membership of the Ayran Brotherhood (just typing that makes me ill to my stomach) to attempt to kill him, which will only fan the fires of support for Shabazz’s message and could lead to civil unrest up to full fledge riots into various communities to seek the death of whites.

These path of action by the Department of Justice makes not for a stable and long standing Republic.

Smorgasbord

@John ryan: Did any other network report this and show the video besides Fox? The one King Obama told me not to listen to. The videos I have seen it on were of Fox News.

When asked who they are, one of the Black Panthers answered, “We’re security.”

John Ryan,
You said nobody reported the incident. Liberal lies again. Why do you think the police came? I can see why nobody came forward and made formal charges against the two. Philadelphia has one of the highest, if not the highest, murder rate in the country.

The “actual” intimidation isn’t on video, but one person said he had to walk between the two to go in and vote.