I had thought that, too, but I went back to watch the program, and it has some lovely features. There are arm movements and irregular turns that give this program such texture and originality. I think I've avoided watching this because it was a "bad" year for Michelle--she lost her world championship to Tara and had a few falls and bobbles. But in this competition she did her falling in the short program (ending up in fourth place there) and pulled herself up with this long program. It's a flowing program with great subtlety, and you can see Michelle's increased maturity. She moves with the command and completeness of a great dancer, and as if her motions were creating the music. For anyone who likes to see what skating is capable of, it's definitely worth another look.

She definitely moves very well but ultimately I don't think the arm movements and such really add up to much in that program. The choreography doesn't create any kind of specific feeling. It's nice by itself but ultimately doesn't interpret the music brilliantly. The music needed choreography that was more hard-edged, IMO.

Mao outskated Yuna in FS ??? If you can see both programs again, especially on Tv, you can see How easily Yuna flowed with soft body movements, and how struggling Mao was. I thought "Mao was tired too.."
if yuna did not make mistakes in jumps, she would got more scores in P/E.

Yuna was just subpar of her own standard. and Because of The Performance "Level" gap between Yuna and others, It's like Goes at TES,Yuna is hardly to be beaten to others in P/E.
Just Substitute the player of that fs program Yuna to others, and if they got same pcs, you may think they are underscored. Double standards is inevitable ^^;;

IMO, Choreography/Transitions always affects P/E too, because little changes and moves in between each Component can't have more points than many.

Mao outskated Yuna in FS ??? If you can see both programs again, especially on Tv, you can see How easily Yuna flowed with soft body movements, and how struggling Mao was. I thought "Mao was tired too.."
if yuna did not make mistakes in jumps, she would got more scores in P/E.

Yuna was just subpar of her own standard. and Because of The Performance "Level" gap between Yuna and others, It's like Goes at TES,Yuna is hardly to be beaten to others in P/E.
Just Substitute the player of that fs program Yuna to others, and if they got same pcs, you may think they are underscored. Double standards is inevitable ^^;;

IMO, Choreography/Transitions always affects P/E too, because little changes and moves in between each Component can't have more points than many.

Hmm.. I have seen both programs several of times, but I still did not see how she skated better than Mao in the LP. According to your logic, then I guess Michelle should never have been beaten throughout her career no matter if she makes mistakes or not, since her level was so above the others (maybe she should have competed under this system).

Then he tried to be little Kurt Browning for a while, until Kurt gave up on him.

actually Kurt became too busy and couldn't give the attention Browning felt Joubert deserved, so he said he would do one of his programs, but not both. Joubert didn't even have the courtesy to call and cancel when he decided to go to someone else for BOTH programs. Browning bent over backwards to make sure he had time to choreograph a short program for Brian and found out through the grapevine that Brian went in a different direction.

Originally Posted by vicivici
Mao outskated Yuna in FS ??? If you can see both programs again, especially on Tv, you can see How easily Yuna flowed with soft body movements, and how struggling Mao was. I thought "Mao was tired too.."
if yuna did not make mistakes in jumps, she would got more scores in P/E.

Yuna was just subpar of her own standard. and Because of The Performance "Level" gap between Yuna and others, It's like Goes at TES,Yuna is hardly to be beaten to others in P/E.
Just Substitute the player of that fs program Yuna to others, and if they got same pcs, you may think they are underscored. Double standards is inevitable ^^;;

IMO, Choreography/Transitions always affects P/E too, because little changes and moves in between each Component can't have more points than many.

But how many times does Choregraphy/Transitions need to be rewarded. It gets rewarded in GOE. And it gets rewarded in Choregraphy, and it gets rewarded in Transitions. It also gets rewarded in skating skills? Why does it need to be rewarded a fourth time? I mean quads only get rewarded once. I'm not saying that the judges shouldn't take into account choregraphy/transitions at all in P/E. But I'm saying it wouldn't hurt for things like how well the performance was actaully executed, to be the primary focus for that mark.

Besides if someone is very messy, that means that they couldn't execute the program well. It means that perhaps the person was doing to much. Its not ridiculous to suggest that SOME of the PCS actually reflect whats done on the ice.