Re: [7x10minilathe] BandSaw Lighting and Visors w-Magnifying Lenses

Chris, Thanks for your input, I appreciate that. I used those before perhaps not specific to the make and model you suggested here. It work wonderfully well

Message 1 of 5
, Jan 1, 2002

Chris,
Thanks for your input, I appreciate that. I used those before perhaps not
specific to the make and model you suggested here. It work wonderfully well
but not for long, until the moisture in respiration have precipitated on
the lens surface masking off the view. I can wipe it off from time to time
and serve it along my way, but my hobby is not so much in cleaning lens.
Sorry for a negative comment to a positive suggestion.
-YK

Funny that you should mention that with your glasses, etc. I, too wear
glasses, and while I don't use bifocals, it won't be long. Anyway, here is
a possible help for you. I found that when doing milling or whatever, I
wanted to really see what I was doing. To do that I almost had to have my
face next to the cutter. Not a good place to be. So, I found this visor,
made here in the USA, called OptiVisor, plastic with glass safety lenses in
it. I got the 2X version which ahs a focal length of about 14 inches. With
these on I can see whatever I want, at a 2X magnification, to me I can see
as if I was right on top of the action, but with the magnification, I can,
and am, about 14 inches or so out of the way. This system also has a loupe
available for one eye which will give you 4 or 5X for really detailed
inspection

Chris Difani

YK: One of the differences between the OptiVisor and whatever you used to use, is that the OptiVisor sits far enough out from your face, and has enough room

Message 2 of 5
, Jan 1, 2002

YK:

One of the differences between the OptiVisor and
whatever you used to use, is that the OptiVisor sits far enough out from
your face, and has enough room for air circulation, that it doesn't fog up. And,
as I tend to perspire a lot, I really looked into this quality before I bought
this model. It even works very well when you wear glasses with them.

You are certainly correct about fogging lenses
being a pain, and wearing glasses, and being a firefighter (entering burning
buildings with self contained breathing apparatus' with a full face mask in
my younger years, and having those lenses fog up so bad that you couldn't see
your hand in front of your face, and the nozzle putting out 150 GPM of water
into 3 or 400 degree air didn't help the fog issue at all), I am really
sensitive to "fogging", or, in short, I hate it, and won't use something
that does that.

So, I fully recommend that you take a look at this
model or at least something similar to it, for your vision inspection needs. The
OptiVisor comes in different magnification strengths, with different focal
lengths. You can get a loupe on one eye, which will give you 4.5X when it is
pivoted into place. The focal distance for the 2X strength is about 12" to 16",
and the stronger lenses have shorter focal lengths. The 4.5X loupe is about 5"
or so.

Anyway, I hope that this helps, and I don't think
that you would go wrong with this version. J&L, Penn Tool Co, and most of
the major suppliers carry these, and for local outlets, check the larger hobby
shops, and the local Society for the Blind.

Finally, I have no commercial relationship, etc.,
etc., ... usual disclaimer... with OptiVisor and whoever makes them. It is
just a good product.

Chris,Thanks for your input, I appreciate that. I used
those before perhaps notspecific to the make and model you suggested here.
It work wonderfully wellbut not for long, until the moisture in
respiration have precipitated onthe lens surface masking off the view. I
can wipe it off from time to timeand serve it along my way, but my hobby
is not so much in cleaning lens.Sorry for a negative comment to a positive
suggestion.-YK

----- Original Message -----From: Chris Difani
<cdifani@...>YK:

Funny that you should mention that
with your glasses, etc. I, too wearglasses, and while I don't use
bifocals, it won't be long. Anyway, here isa possible help for you. I
found that when doing milling or whatever, Iwanted to really see what I
was doing. To do that I almost had to have myface next to the cutter. Not
a good place to be. So, I found this visor,made here in the USA, called
OptiVisor, plastic with glass safety lenses init. I got the 2X version
which ahs a focal length of about 14 inches. Withthese on I can see
whatever I want, at a 2X magnification, to me I can seeas if I was right
on top of the action, but with the magnification, I can,and am, about 14
inches or so out of the way. This system also has a loupeavailable for one
eye which will give you 4 or 5X for really
detailedinspection

Chris, Is this the model you are suggesting? http://xtronics.com/optivisor.htm If so, I know what d ya mean. Actually, I have two of those. One exact style,

Message 3 of 5
, Jan 1, 2002

Chris,
Is this the model you are suggesting? http://xtronics.com/optivisor.htm
If so, I know what'd ya mean. Actually, I have two of those. One exact
style, close frame, and another open frame. Close frame have one
normal-view angle, horizontal, found at HF, and open frame allows view
0~45* down wrt normal-horizontal, found at Micro-Mart. They all work
wonderfully, the draw back is they are either too loose at the head band or
too tight (I prefer to see on with additional band across the head polar).
I cannot position it if too loose, and get headache soon when it is tight
for good positioning. I cannot find a "sweet spot". Despite of the problem,
I do tolerate them regularly. I much prefer the open frame one. It is much
lighter thus require less skull compression. One size fit all.http://www.dxmarket.com/micromark/products/82567.html
As an alternative, I also make myself handy with a hand magnifier among my
tools, whenever I am able to free one hand.:-)
I begin to wear bi-focal prescription about few months ago. I love it. But
I do take it off during close inspection.
-YK

One of the differences between the OptiVisor and whatever you used to use,
is that the OptiVisor sits far enough out from your face, and has enough
room for air circulation, that it doesn't fog up. And, as I tend to
perspire a lot, I really looked into this quality before I bought this
model. It even works very well when you wear glasses with them.

You are certainly correct about fogging lenses being a pain, and wearing
glasses, and being a firefighter (entering burning buildings with self
contained breathing apparatus' with a full face mask in my younger years,
and having those lenses fog up so bad that you couldn't see your hand in
front of your face, and the nozzle putting out 150 GPM of water into 3 or
400 degree air didn't help the fog issue at all), I am really sensitive to
"fogging", or, in short, I hate it, and won't use something that does that.

So, I fully recommend that you take a look at this model or at least
something similar to it, for your vision inspection needs. The OptiVisor
comes in different magnification strengths, with different focal lengths.
You can get a loupe on one eye, which will give you 4.5X when it is pivoted
into place. The focal distance for the 2X strength is about 12" to 16", and
the stronger lenses have shorter focal lengths. The 4.5X loupe is about 5"
or so.

Anyway, I hope that this helps, and I don't think that you would go wrong
with this version. J&L, Penn Tool Co, and most of the major suppliers carry
these, and for local outlets, check the larger hobby shops, and the local
Society for the Blind.

Finally, I have no commercial relationship, etc., etc., ... usual
disclaimer... with OptiVisor and whoever makes them. It is just a good
product.

Chris Difanicdifani@...
In Northern California, midway between San Francisco and Lake Tahoe

Chris,
Thanks for your input, I appreciate that. I used those before perhaps not
specific to the make and model you suggested here. It work wonderfully
well
but not for long, until the moisture in respiration have precipitated on
the lens surface masking off the view. I can wipe it off from time to
time
and serve it along my way, but my hobby is not so much in cleaning lens.
Sorry for a negative comment to a positive suggestion.
-YK

Funny that you should mention that with your glasses, etc. I, too wear
glasses, and while I don't use bifocals, it won't be long. Anyway, here
is
a possible help for you. I found that when doing milling or whatever, I
wanted to really see what I was doing. To do that I almost had to have my
face next to the cutter. Not a good place to be. So, I found this visor,
made here in the USA, called OptiVisor, plastic with glass safety lenses
in
it. I got the 2X version which ahs a focal length of about 14 inches.
With
these on I can see whatever I want, at a 2X magnification, to me I can
see
as if I was right on top of the action, but with the magnification, I
can,
and am, about 14 inches or so out of the way. This system also has a
loupe
available for one eye which will give you 4 or 5X for really detailed
inspection

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