Herman Cain woke up Tuesday to another day of soaring polling numbers, showing him moving into second place behind Mitt Romney and pushing Rick Perry out of the spotlight.

The day ended with the former Godfathers Pizza CEO under attack from his rivals, both on stage and in a series of post-debate press releases meant to tear him down.

But from his new center-stage spot next to Mitt Romney, Cain calmly weathered every jab from them, the moderators and even the Democrats, walking out from the Dartmouth auditorium having done little to hurt his standing.

The liberal media is pumping Cain for all its worth. They can't believe their luck. Cain would be beatable without 9-9-9, but if he really tries to sell that turkey to the general electorate, he'll go down in flames and Obama will win re-election.

I was leaning towards Cain, but after his statement about Alan Greenspan was disappointing.

After each debate, Newt has always done the best (in my opinion). He’s done some really sucky things but, I’m leaning towards voting for him - installing a conservative Senate & House and holding his feet to the fire.

That’s my thought today. ABR (Anybody but Romney)

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posted on 10/12/2011 5:07:53 AM PDT
by Reagan69
(I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)

Yep...Newt has my attention overall...and he’s rising as I suspected he might. Just too many who haven’t a clue otherwise. He can hit the ground running and not have to determine the political layout before he acts.

I think Santorum destroyed his idea for a national sales tax, and Bachmann make a joke out of it with her 999-666 comment as well as whoever said the comment about thinking it was a pizza deal.

I think Cain took major damage last night. He’s not done for, but it took 3 debates to destroy Perry, and it will probably take 3 to destroy Cain. It’s a shame that Bachmann and Santorum can’t use their sharp tounges to destroy Romney before they exit the stage forever.

cain answer about alan greenspan was HORRIBLE! Greenspan was one of the chief architect of bubbles and the destruction of US economy. Greenspan pretend to be a capitalist while he micromanage the interest rate for the economy like your typical central planner

I don't know exactly. I suspect that Bachmann knows that a Romney voter would never vote for her so she only attacks the others vying for the conservative voters. Romney actually is trying to help Bachmann because the more divided the conservative vote is the better chance he has of getting the nomination.

Romney can't get above 25% in the polls, so his only path to the nomination is to make sure everyone else stays in as long as possible splitting up the remaining votes. If any single person starts to grab to big of a share of the remaining 75%... he focuses on them while simultaneously building up the others. Romney is playing this like a master. And he is obviously counting on conservatives reluctantly supporting him in the general.

Cain’s even worse. 9-9-9 will be DOA—before it ever reaches Congress. The general electorate will resoundingly reject it. He’s wedded himself to it, it’s what his campaign is all about, and it’s a stone cold loser.

Cain 999 tax plan, it is a catchy phrase but it is a political killer. You cannot win elections when you are telling the 50% of the population who pay zero taxes after filing all their deductions under the current tax code that they have to pay a mandatory 9% taxes on their income with zero deductions and an additional 9% national sales tax on every item they purchase including the basic items such as food and clothing.

Bachmann did a better job and targeted the main weakness of the plan, but the fact remains that 9-9-9 would be an improvement over the current system. It’s clear, simple, broadens the base and reduces the aggregate tax burden on individuals and corporations.

I do recall (not the Country Clubbers but the Establishment) beating up on our candidate in NV.

At the same time Hairy Reed had the miners unions behind him ~ the entrepreneurial middle class having already evacuated the state during its current Great Obama Depression.

He did not have an overwhelming victory. He barely made 51% in a three-way race. He'd won the 2004 race with over 60%.

Sharon Angle failed to pull in enough Democrats, and there was that third party candidate (Tea party the data says, hunh?), and 2.2% for NONE OF THESE CANDIDATES ~ a Nevada peculiarity. Kind of like the 00 on the roulette wheel ~ gives the House a tremendous advantage every single time.

We all must note that the LEFT COAST stayed uniformly Democrat ~ which is a long term problem we will probably need to address with re-education camps, or maybe cut off their water or something (except Fresno BTW).

I suspect that Bachmann knows that a Romney voter would never vote for her so she only attacks the others vying for the conservative voters. Romney actually is trying to help Bachmann because the more divided the conservative vote is the better chance he has of getting the nomination.

Good reasoning. That makes sense.

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posted on 10/12/2011 5:29:34 AM PDT
by Tribune7
(If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)

Obviously you don't know what taxes are levied on the people, what part they end up paying (or having attributed to them), and what the 9-9-9 plan replaces.

Time for some RE-EDUMACATION!!!!

However, I'm not going to do the job in this thread. Rather, like other's I will be waiting on you to keep coming up with this point (easily refuted last evening by Cain himself) and knocking you upside the head with it.

I watched the debate last night and all the candidates were ready for the "gotcha" questions from the ugly, snarky tumulty, rose and the not bad looking hoe from bloomberg news.

I actually thought this debate format was the most fair for spreading the time.

I'm not a perry fan but I'm starting to feel sorry for him, he looks like a goldfish gasping on the kitchen floor.

The man cannot debate and if selected as the pubbie candidate he will get killed by the one.

The msm and the pubbie elite are hating life today, because the Herminator hit a solid triple last night.

Watch the media start to slam Herman, because not only do they fear the idea of a black conservative, they are now seeing how much Herman is revered and respected by those racist TEA party folks.

Contrary to the contrarian, huck, Herman's 9-9-9 tax idea is understandable and if anyone takes the time to go to Herman's home page, they'd see that it is an interim plan that leads to a fair tax plan.

If the only plan is to keep what we now have, then the USA will go the way of the Roman empire but we won't last 500 years, in fact we won't make 300.

Three debates destroyed perry, last night he just butted the wall several times. Man is not big league. But he did come up with a good way to dumb down debt. All those illegals counted and used to say the debt per person, in Texas, was less per capita. Damn perry would want to borrow 300 million chinese and say per capita he had cut the debt in half in the united states and he and obummer would have a hell of a lot more to spend.

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posted on 10/12/2011 5:35:12 AM PDT
by org.whodat
(Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrat)

Hey, EVERYBODY laughs about the associational situation of 999 with the idea of a preprinted price on a pizza box. Still, I think that was DOMINO'S.

Now, for the sticking point on the pizza wars taking place on stage, Domino's Pizza was sold to Bain Capital in 1998 and went public in 2004. Romney didn't leave Bain Capital until 1999 which meant that for a short while he was part-OWNER of 6,000 pizza joints ~ or about 25 times as many as Mr. Cain.

The question is does anyone have any idea if Bain Capital (that is Romney) continued to make contributions to Right To Life movement organizations or did they abandon that?

Bachmann knows that the typical Romney voter would first knock on her door and then ask her if she knows the real Jesus Christ.

That's when I bring up the Church of the First Born, not the one they get told about but THE REAL ONE and how they don't like doctors or Mormons (for some strange reason) ~ and it's just downhill from there.

My buddy the Moslem missionary down the street is kinder and gentler ~ a natural Bushbot (really!) and he's done a conversion or two himself.

Can you imagine what happens when the Jehovah's Witnesses come to the door?

—It’s almost laughable how each candidate is rotten in one way or another.—

In all seriousness, when has that not been true? Even with Reagan, look at his record in California. When you are looking for blemishes in mortal humans, you understand why every single one of us needs the blood of Christ.

ROFLOL, heard two different talk show people on the radio, both said what I said, he is over, done, finished, not going anywhere, time to go home. He also lied about the tenant farmer BS, just no one has picked up on it yet.

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posted on 10/12/2011 5:50:59 AM PDT
by org.whodat
(Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrat)

I implore you to think through the notion that your staying home on election day is a good idea. Wouldn’t even Elmer Fudd be better for America than 4 more years of Obama? I get heart palpitations when I hear good Americans say they will stay home instead of vote for Obamas oppostion - whoever it is. This is not your usual election cycle coming up. Our future depends on Obama being thrown out. Sorry to preach....... I just get passionate when it comes to my kid’s future!

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posted on 10/12/2011 5:51:24 AM PDT
by cblue55
(It's either America, or Obama. It cannot be both!)

Cain calmly weathered every jab from them, the moderators and even the Democrats,

Not exactly ...

Cain nearly lost his cool when responding to Santorum confronting him on 'nan nan nan' and it adding a National sales tax.

Later, when asked about Fed Chairmen, he responded that he thought Greenspan was the greatest and should be patterned in the future. That unleashed a tirade from Ron Paul who gave a brief, comprehensive history of ills of the Greenspan economy.

Cain 999 tax plan, it is a catchy phrase but it is a political killer. You cannot win elections when you are telling the 50% of the population who pay zero taxes after filing all their deductions under the current tax code that they have to pay a mandatory 9% taxes on their income with zero deductions and an additional 9% national sales tax on every item they purchase including the basic items such as food and clothing.

You said "...after filing all their deductions under the current tax plan...". Oh my. Where to begin?

Never mind, I don't have the time to bring you up to speed. Before you go and say something foolish like that again, perhaps you ought to first educate yourself on Cain's 9-9-9 plan, and WHAT IT REPLACES...

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