What I call the Weird Factor, for lack of a better name, seems to have become
a permanent feature of our post-9/11 world, a dark and sinister leitmotif that
plays in the background. On 9/11, of course, the Factor was on full display
as a whole string of unusual events and unexplained phenomena were visited
on us. The 9/11 Commission did little to clear these matters up, for the most
part because they didn’t address them. Just a few for the record: Bush reading My Pet Goat to schoolchildren after being told of the attacks, the sudden
appearance of the "Israeli art students" – and their buddies, the
"laughing Israelis" – in the months and weeks leading up to the attacks,
and the apparent passivity of US air defenses on that fateful day.

I mean, how is it possible that the terrorists actually hit the Pentagon,
the symbolic fortress of America’s alleged military supremacy? After spending
untold trillions on "defense" over the years, a sum that never
declines in real terms, and driving ourselves into near-bankruptcy on account
of it, how in the name of all that’s holy did nineteen men armed with box-cutters
manage to drive Don Rumsfeld stumbling into the street, literally running for
his life?

The Weird Factor seems to intensify whenever there is some significant event
in our ongoing "war on terrorism," or whatever they’re calling it
these days. My longtime readers will be familiar with my theory of how this
works. Briefly: on Sept. 11, 2001, the impact of those airliners as they hit
the Twin Towers sent us careening into an alternative dimension where up is
down, right is left, and torture is the American Way – in short we landed in
Bizarro World, where we have been trapped ever since. The post-9/11 cognitive
shift that heralded our entry into this alternate dimension is amplified around
these incidents, and certainly the most recent – the midair antics of the Undie
Bomber – underscores the Weird Factor at its absolute weirdest.

The official narrative has been in flux, due in part to the political firestorm
that surrounds the event: President Obama’s characterization of the Undie Bomber
as an "isolated" individual, unconnected to a larger network, began
to fall apart almost before it was uttered. As the links between Umar Farouk
Abdul Mutallab and the specter of "al-Qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula"
surfaced – along with the incredible story of how Mutallab’s father, a prominent
Nigerian banker, personally reported his son to the US embassy and the CIA
– the official story had to be amended. Now it’s "the buck stops here,"
an admission of failure, and the inevitablecalls for making everyone’s flying
experience more problematic and unendurable than ever.

Also inevitable was the way the Republicans leapt on the incident to somehow
prove the President and his party are "soft" on terrorism, a strangely
empty critique that doesn’t seem to consist of anything more substantial than
a highly arguable perception of "softness" in the President’s rhetoric.
GOPers complained that the President didn’t use the word "terrorism"
enough, that his tone lacked the requisite harshness , but when it comes to
substantial differences over policy – or over the specifics of this case –
the Republican critics come up empty. I won’t be the first to point out that
the Bush administration’s response to the Richard Reid/Shoe Bomber incident
was nearly identical to the Obamaites’ on this very similar occasion. Team
Bush raised the threat level, imposed all sorts of new regulations and restrictions
to make air travel decidedly more unpleasant, and were somewhat less self-critical
than their successors.

In all of this politicized brouhaha, however, we hear not one word about the
various anomalies clustered around al-Qaeda’s latest – and most successful
– post-9/11 attempt to sow fear and confusion in the West. I count three:

1) The well-dressed "Indian" man seen accompanying Mutallab at
Amsterdam’s Schnipol airport. Michigan attorney Kurt Haskell, a passenger
on the flight, was playing cards with his wife in front of the ticket desk
when he saw what he considered to be a bit of an odd couple approach the desk
and engage in a conversation with the attendant. Mutallab, who looked to Haskell
as if he might be a teenager, was dressed somewhat shabbily, and was accompanied
by an older "well-dressed" man who looked and sounded like he might
be a native of India. When they approached the desk, the Indian did all the
talking, explaining that Mutallab didn’t have a passport but needed to get
on the flight. The attendant replied that everyone on the flight had to have
a passport, to which the Indian retorted that his companion was a Sudanese
refugee, and "we do this all the time." Well, then you’ll have to
speak to my supervisor, said the attendant, and the odd couple went down a
hallway: the next time Haskell saw this "refugee," he was setting
his underpants on fire in an attempt to down the plane.

Dutch security is now denying
Haskell’s eyewitness report, on the basis of having reviewed 200 hours of surveillance
video. Haskell, however, is sticking with his story, and has located another
passenger who (he
says) corroborates his account, but this witness is afraid to step forward
out of fear of being in the spotlight. Haskell also asks a reasonable question:
why don’t they release the surveillance video, just like the US authorities
released video of that idiot in New Jersey who snuck through security?

Additionally, there are all sorts of other questions that arise when we consider
how the Dutch handled security at Schiphol in this instance: for example, all
passengers at Schnipol are interviewed, an innovation introduced by the Israeli
companies that provide security services there. No doubt these interviews are
videotaped, or at least there must be some account of the interview, either
from interviewer or his notes: let’s see them. I refuse to believe that
Mutallab, being interviewed and sitting there with a bomb in his underpants,
wasn’t sweating bullets at the very least. How did he explain himself? What
did the interviewer ask? These are questions that won’t be answered until and
unless the Dutch are more forthcoming – and the media start getting more aggressive
when it comes to uncovering questions of simple fact.

2) The "man in orange" arrested at the Detroit airport, who was
on the same flight. As Haskell tells
it:

"Ever since I got off of Flight 253 I have been repeating what I saw
in US Customs. Specifically, 1 hour after we left the plane, bomb sniffing
dogs arrived. Up to this point, all of the passengers on Flight 253 stood in
a small area in an evacuated luggage claim area of an airport terminal. During
this time period, all of the passengers had their carry on bags with them.
When the bomb sniffing dogs arrived,[one]1 dog found something in a carry on
bag of a 30-ish Indian man. This is not the so called ‘Sharp
Dressed” man.’ I will refer to this man as ‘The man in orange.’

"The man in orange, who stood some 20 feet away from me the entire
time until he was taken away, was immediately taken away to be searched and
interrogated in a nearby room. At this time he was not handcuffed. When he
emerged from the room, he was then handcuffed and taken away. At this time
an FBI agent came up to the rest of the passengers and said the following (approximate
quote) ‘You all are being moved to another area because this area is not safe.
I am sure many of you saw what just happened (Referring to the man in orange)
and are smart enough to read between the lines and figure it out.’ We were then
marched out of the baggage claim area and into a long hallway."

This account is backed
up by Daniel Huisinga, an American from Tennessee, who was also on the
flight and saw the "man in orange" being handcuffed and led away.

As Haskell points
out, the explanation offered by US government officials has gone through
a few different versions, from it never happened to it had nothing to do with
terrorism. So what’s the real story? Our government isn’t saying – and
our media isn’t asking.

3) The man who videotaped the entire flight. Charlie and Patricia Keepman,
of Oconomowoc, Wisconsin, who were sitting 20 rows behind Mutallab on the flight
"said another passenger" sitting right in front of them "videotaped
the entire flight, including the attempted detonation of explosives,"
according to this
news report:

"’This person actually was videotaping it,’ Mr. Keepman told the Detroit
News. Mrs. Keepman told 620WTMJ’s Wisconsin’s Morning News: ‘He sat
up and videotaped the entire thing, very calmly. We do know that the FBI is
looking for him intensely. Since then, we’ve heard nothing about it.’"

"Taylor was in seat 29A of the plane, and was about 10 rows back from
Abdulmutallab when he allegedly attempted to stage an attack. In the midst
of passengers trying to subdue Abdulmutallab and flight attendants working
to put out the fire, Taylor says he looked behind him and saw a man filming
the situation about two to five rows back.

“‘I looked behind me as the flight attendant ran through, and I looked and
there was a guy with a camera,’ Taylor says.

"Taylor says he notified the FBI of what he saw, in hopes of helping them
to obtain footage of the foiled attack.

"’There’s definitely footage from the time it was mission critical, to
the time they hauled (Abdulmutallab) to the front,’ Taylor says. ‘I told them
100 percent there was a guy filming.’"

In recording the entire flight, was the mystery cameraman inspired by Andy
Warhol’s film, Empire,
an 8-hour movie
in which the unmoving camera was simply trained on the Empire State Building
– or was a more sinister motive involved?

See what I mean by the Weird Factor?

All this is aside from the incompetence and missed signals that allowed the
Undie Bomber to even get on a plane. Our government officials aren’t addressing
any of these other questions, nor are their Republican critics – who only want
to know why the President doesn’t launch an immediate invasion of Yemen. None
of the issues raised by these oddities are being addressed by anyone – except
a very few ordinary Americans, like the Haskells and the Keepmans, who witnessed
the Weird Factor in action.

I have no hypothesis to submit to my readers as to the meaning of the above:
all I can say, at this point, is that there is a lot more to the Christmas
Day incident than our government is letting on. We don’t yet have all the facts,
but it is weird indeed that these particular facts are being steadfastly ignored.

What we do know is this: the bare bones scenario, aired by the President in
his earliest remarks, is incorrect. What we don’t know – yet – is how much
broader was the conspiracy to down flight 253. If the eyewitnesses are right,
then the activities of Mutallab’s well-dressed companion certainly point to
a pro-terrorist auxiliary, of some sort, providing Mutallab with invaluable
assistance. This scenario is also implied by the "man in orange,"
whose identity and whereabouts are a complete mystery at this point. As for
the person who videotaped the entire proceedings – I have no idea what to make
of it. It’s the Weird Factor – and it’s pretty strange, even considering how
far down this particular rabbit hole we have gone.

As weird as it is, the conclusion that the flight was supposed to be downed is not supported by any of the facts. The amount of ignition source seems to have been trivial. The person filming the "whole flight" could have been in on it, but why film it is you are about to go down with a suicide bomber? This does seem to be an "in your face" provocation to get Obama to invade Yemen, or if he fails to do so, to charge him with laxity or cowardice (thus giving the advantage to the pols temporarily out of power). Shortly after 9/11 in Washington, DC, where I went for a wedding of the daughter of a couple of intelligence experts, I stayed at a hotel where I remember a balding, fiftyish professional of some sort leading around a poor looking dark young foreigner whom he called "Mohammed." Without knowing anything more, I assumed this class-mixing situation was not about rent boys or anything so normal. Apparently Haskell saw something like that at the airport. It's probably fairly routine in the world of spy v. spy. Because we cannot see the whole thing, we are relying for our knowledge on what the press has been allowed to say about these secret operations (and counter-operations). I wonder how Underwear Man fits temporally with the death of CIA agents at the hands of one of the spies they had turned. I say this because there are those oddballs who think it was a diversion from that huge failure of a policy goal in Afghanistan where a supposed "source" turned lethal. There are rent boys and there are rent boys.

What I find "weird" (more than "weird" actually), is how a scientific paper can be published in a peer reviewed, open scientific journal, wherein the authors claim to have found significant quantities of nanothermite (a novel, highly energetic, explosive/incendiary substance) in the dust from the WTC building collapses of 09/11/2001…and that somehow doesn't even rate as "news" at antiwar.com?

Regardless of what antiwar.com's "personal" opinion about 9/11 happens to be, the well substantiated claim of the discovery of active thermitic material, where it has no business being, with regard to what may be the most important war-related event in U.S. history, certainly would be of some interest to the readers and supporters of this site, no?

Yet as far as I know, this earth-shaking development wasn't even mentioned on this web site. And likewise with the recent release of a video analysis showing a cutter charge in action, severing a box column in the northwest corner of WTC1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O36ReZixfiY

>>What I find "weird" (more than "weird" actually), is how a scientific paper can be published in a peer reviewed, open scientific journal, wherein the authors claim to have found significant quantities of nanothermite

You wouldn't believe what can appear in peer-reviewed journals. Weird claims that P=NP has been solved. Discussion of parallel universes. The works. It just means that someone looked over it and okayed it for publication and discussion. It doesn't mean it has any basis in reality. Hardly "earthshaking" if no-one takes it seriously (and the last time I checked, no-one did)

>>Nano-thermite has been talked about but its uses fall far short of cutting these massive columns. It's in its research stage. They include possible uses for welding molecular devices and possible use as a heat signature flare decoy. Then there is a patent of a device which has been brought up but as of yet, there is no evidence the idea went any further. Does it even work? Even if it did, they are "Ganged" together to make the cut. You would still need these boxes all over the columns. Once again the answer to this from the "scholars" is "rationalized technology". They need this technology to exist so it exists. There is some secret super thermite which can be placed in a canister which can survive 1,100 degree C so the primary charge doesn't go off.

I guess my point went over your head? Regardless of whatever specious counterarguments a "debunker" such as yourself may proffer, the fact that the paper was published, subject as stated, is highly relevant, very interesting NEWS, and should've appeared at antiwar.com. Period. That it didn't is just plain censorship.

That said, what "falls far short" are your arguments. There are several patents by different inventors teaching the use of thermite for "cutter charges". There's even a little demonstration video one of the patent holders put up on you tube:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn-MCCZ3O1M

This thermite-based method will allow operators to penetrate a material in timeframes similar to explosive shape charges without the safety concerns and security risks associated with explosives. In addition, the sustained duration of a thermite jet will more effectively handle discontinuities and interfaces that normally disrupt and dissipate explosively driven shape charge jets. When a linear shaped charge is used for cutting steel on a steel bridge demolition project, a large degree of preparation work must be undertaken to ensure a successful cut or penetration. A "preconditioning" process involves removing overlapped plates and areas of reinforcement with a conventional cutting torch. This process is time consuming, expensive, and dangerous.

Reality Factor

Nelson, 'they' don't care about true science, otherwise the inventions would be used for a good cause rather than killing and domination, and I see it as a negative reinforcement for benefitial innovation. So in a sense is a struggle for survival of the good science, the kind that will lunch humanity in the correct path, finally. But 'they' are very unconfortable about that, in panic of being left behind.

The weird factor might be a point in the attempt to break the reality paradigm, and seems to be working with some efficiency: a work in progress large analisis of reality and fantasies capable of being generated and processed by humans.

What dominates the media and the cultures, reality or fantasies? How? it's a different strategy…. i think.

Reality Factor

I say it's working with some efficiency because the focus of attention is in the unusual, important or not, and due to fast and open communication it spreads eventually derived fantasies or wrongly processed info deduced from a few unusual points. THAT creates many non real stories that dilute out the reality that matters and that is hurting the same people spreading it.

So an important job of the people's media is to actually verify the event before tackling and use it. I think people nowadays can easily be fooled by any method of communication, because real time info can be faked, and so people end up discussing the irrelevant or non real stuff. Mean time scanners and innovations that will count is probably going on, then the 'dissenters' will be bought, like cheap whores or pimps, for the pleasure of doing their fellow citizens.

Conversely, the sustained jet of a thermite charge offers improved performance over multi-plate materials with limited or substantially no preconditioning. The thermite charge's sustained jet also affords a greater assurance in cutting plates of varying thickness, layered plate configurations, and any supporting or reinforcing members that may exist in the middle or on the backside of a material. While the projected thermite charge particle stream is a slower reaction than that of an explosively driven jet, it is very fast from the perspective of the operator. The anticipated timing for material penetration is typically on the order of hundreds of milliseconds.

The Jones & co. claim was that WTC dust was sampled and the stuff was discovered there. To legitimately call that a fantasy ("rationalized technology"), one would need to find and analyze ones own samples –which I doubt are hard to obtain. Though I haven't scoured the web for it, I've not yet heard of 'debunkers' doing empirical work at all. Your linked page does not claim to do so, but I'd like to see a case to the contrary.

Of course "debunkers" aren't going to do anything of the kind…as they're obviously not interested in truth, but obfuscation. Let's face it, if they were sincere, and not the liars and accessories to mass murderer that they are, they would be pushing hard for a new investigation (instead of wasting so much time and energy trying to prevent a real investigation) in order to prove the "truthers" wrong, thereby publicly humiliating them and ending the 9/11 truth movement.

In any case, at this point, the thermite issue is mostly academic, since the latest video analysis by David Chandler irrefutably proves that a controlled demolition took place, which proves that 9/11 was an inside job. Thus the debate is over except for the details, which will require an investigation.

I'd love to see it but one should not expect criminals to willingly put themselves behind bars or into the hangman's noose. No, they save that for potentates of foreign countries who have outlived their usefulness.

MikeyNeptune

Now hold on there a minute, Nelson.

While camping over the weekend, a sparrow flew into the side of my tent… and it crashed to the ground… at freefall speed… into it's own footprint.

After a thorough investigation Shlomo the Bear, Chairman of the Game Commission declared (and was later supported by an impartial investigation by Field & Stream magazine) that the force of the impact weakened the fiberglass support poles and the ensuing fire (can of Coleman Fuel stored under my pillow) was the cause of the collapse.

The debris was quickly shipped off to WalMart and has since been melted down to make a brand spankin' new state of the art compound bow.

Well that question doesn't make a lot of sense, since the 9/11 Zionist false flag attack was the pretext our Masters used to begin the interminable "War on Terror" (i.e. Zionist crusade) which now threatens all of humanity.

What better way to stop the "endless war" than to expose the murderous fraud upon which it rests, and the criminally insane "people" involved?

And that brings me back to the main question I have: Why are antiwar.com and lewrockwell.com censoring the 9/11 information which they should be shouting it from the rooftops?

I don't want to waste time arguing absurdities with you. Of course the U.S. has been murdering people en masse, all over the world, for over 100 years, in illegal, immoral imperialist wars and acts of aggression, yes.

That said, you're actually going to claim/imply that you don't see a significant change for the worse (much worse) after 09/11/2001?

It's clear that I was talking about the "War on Terror", which is the "ideological"
cover for the implementation of the PNAC agenda, which is the direct result of 9/11…the "New Pearl Harbor", and which clearly threatens all of humanity.

im just saying you could have indisputable proof, live confections from everyone involved from bush down. and what?
every one will rise up against such a heinous crime?
no one rose up when they basically did this on w.m.d and no one gives a fuck period.

the "New Pearl Harbor", and which clearly threatens all of humanity.
the only threat to humanity is the current stockpile of nuclear weapons…
the united states has cast it die, and you can blame this or that group for forcing it.
but in the end it was the american people who marched in lockstep in to these wars.

Well that question doesn't make a lot of sense, since the 9/11 Zionist false flag attack was the pretext our Masters used to begin the interminable "War on Terror" (i.e. Zionist crusade) which now threatens all of humanity.

What better way to stop the "endless war" than to expose the murderous fraud upon which it rests, and the criminally insane "people" involved?

And that brings me back to the main question I have: Why are antiwar.com and lewrockwell.com censoring the 9/11 information which they should be shouting it from the rooftops?

Odd that someone would "happen" to have a camera at the ready and whipped around to catch the "action" at that very moment. Hmmm? Methinks it smells like fish in Denmark. No, the plane was never going to actually blow up if "cameraman" was recording the event for training purposes or whatever asset handling black bag nonsense was going on. We must not forget the shrieking Wagnerian chorus that arose when the supposed bombers from England, some of whom never even had passports, and could never have created a viable device while in flight (anyone care to "sneak" past security some ice chests?… Puhleeze!) and yet to this day we're subjected to this ludicrous notion that "fluids" have to be within X number of ounces! Ha ha ha ha…. What would they say if I had a dozen 3oz tubes eh? Each is within the prescribed amount. Does this make any sense? The TSA and the rest of our nations FED handlers are practiced liars and they, with the mainstream medias help, are doing their damn best to ignore or silence people who clearly saw what was going on. Is Frank Drebin head of the TSA now?

Raimondo wrote: "We don’t yet have all the facts, but it is weird indeed that these particular facts are being steadfastly ignored. "

Why is that weird, Justin? It's way more weird to demand the details of an ongoing investigation. The FBI has the passenger list and tons of footage, also they interviewed extensively everyone. Any exposure or announcements at this stage will certainly screw things up!

DUH!!!!!!!!! We wouldn't want to "interfere" with the investigation..???? When in DOUBT…. Just stamp TOP SECRET.. Or is Better than reading Pet Goat while WWIII is starting I suppose…. Maybe the Wizard of Oz should be required reading in the UNIVERSITIES.. What is needed is for someone to reach in behind the screen and DRAG the trickster(s) OUT into the LIGHT of DAY..!!!!
We would not want to compromise the way this incident gets sanitized by asking any QUESTIONS..

I think a new view of life is coming to the fore. A simple consequence of having large populations, seeked to be regulated by incredible finely masked rules and laws.

Thus the official reaction is to grab any facts for the sole property of the state, and only releasing what is believed to be instrumental in manipulating the public.

But since there is a real danger, that the public would not stand to such a role, completely at odds with ideas of democracy, freedom, personal rights, those issues are ignored. Also the machiavellians – of the modern PERMANENT type – plays on personal comforts: One is playing the game of COMFORT being undermined by "terrorists" (a lesson taught from security harassments at airports). But in other areas the game of overwhelming regulations, that directs the persons to just conform, at best forcing fellows to do the same. and leave thinking for real in the hands of big government.

The very fact of historically big governments (may I remind you, that during previous centuries a tax (in total) of 10 percent, was consideret very harsh!) seems to create of itself some social NEED for that new variant of reality.. We give you more comfort, and you conform in everything. Isn't terrorists becoming the new label for nonconformists? Don't we notice overwhelming forces to subdue theoretical dangers in situations with big public meetings (especially of leaders), and don't we easily see, that the order of conformity for comfort is the new ruling order?

Freedom means comfort from conformity: you are free outside of rules, but no rule is above the primacy of the neccessities from handling and enforcing a limitless, and exploding set of public property, on the area of regulation.

Johnny in Wi.

This hotspants bomber is indeed a strange case. Thanks Justin for keeping this discussion going.

This is lookin MORE and MORE like another a case of "Who ya gonna believe, Yer lying eyes or what WE tell you… AND… Please, please….take us to the video tapes…!!!!! Someone is lying and the video tapes will [most likely] establish what occurred.. And I don't mean the ones in the lav, that give a glimpse through a crack in the door… The equivalent of the parking cheat camera at the pentagon… is the one we got, not ALL the roof cameras.. Wierd..!! Thank G-d that the latest schitt wasn't lapped up by everyone…. Something VERY rotten here, but who cares as long as the toilets flush…right..?? I'd really like to sink my teeth in this one but who has the time to debunk the mega-billion dollar spin and lie machine that the U.S. government has become… http://911studies.com Thank you Mr. Raimondo for keeping us current on the latest deceptions of the war country..

This is lookin MORE and MORE like another a case of "Who ya gonna believe, Yer lying eyes or what WE tell you… AND… Please, please….take us to the video tapes…!!!!! Someone is lying and the video tapes will [most likely] establish what occurred.. And I don't mean the ones in the lav, that give a glimpse through a crack in the door… The equivalent of the parking cheat camera at the pentagon… is the one we got, not ALL the roof cameras.. Wierd..!! Thank G-d that the latest schitt wasn't lapped up by everyone…. Something VERY rotten here, but who cares as long as the toilets flush…right..?? I'd really like to sink my teeth in this one but who has the time to debunk the mega-billion dollar spin and lie machine that the U.S. government has become… http://911studies.com Thank you Mr. Raimondo for keeping us current on the latest deceptions of the war country..

Let's give one credit to Pres.Obomia. The Kosher guys(Politicians.Media) wanted a military trial,just to get all the information out of the guy and rich daddy wouldn't hire good lawyers. He has clammed-up the Kosher media yells!
Odd things about the case, PETN explosive is readily available–Camping fuel canisters–lite a match and burns slowly. American troops used them to heat their food . It takes a blasting cap to get to explode. Shoe bomber–had the same PETN,we are told it didn't explode because the matches in Reid's sweating socks got wet—Are Americans this stupid?
Justin forgot one item–the young haggard man appeared to be drugged.
Speaking of well dressed indian man–!srael is operating in India in the thousands of MOSSAD Agents :^(

Bob Roddis

Here is another podcast of an interview with Mr. Haskell on WJR radio in Detroit.

Bob Roddis

Here is another podcast of an interview with Mr. Haskell on WJR radio in Detroit.

Dieter Heymann

I have been numerous times at Schiphol airport. The couple which claimed to have "played cards in front of the ticket counter" must have done so either by sitting on the floor or on their luggage because there are no tables or chairs in front of the ticket counters. In fact, I am sure that security personnel would have urged them to get their luggage checked and move on to the terminal of their flight. Ergo, I do not believe one word of what this couple claims to have seen.

Correct. But in this bizarro world the word of one attorney is more likely true than the research of the Dutch airport security, footage and dozens of interviews combined. And it's easier as a private person to offload a testimony than it is for an official agency to put things out there in the wild. It's called the accountability factor.

And the calls for releasing footage and interview material in our well-connected hyper-society: insane! All these armchair internet Sherlocks would be able to burn how many witches per hour?

Dieter, the good German act should have ended in the Reistag fire…. Believing the "official story" is almost always foolish…. You seem 2B so accomplished… Some of your views outside geology and physics though seem like the plumber giving investment advise…. Try 911studies.com [the Jack White site] to get the flavor of current information fidelity by MSM…

"RKA, you state: Bloomberg would give a ticket an imprimatur of executive competence…If you truly believe this than the ticket should be Bloomberg/Obama!!!!!After all, our President is the Chief Executive. You have managed to render Obama executive-impotent."

Posted by Dieter Heymann | December 1, 2007 1:01 PM

Keep being curious..!!

Peter Cleall

If you read his statement Haskell says that he and his wife were seated on the floor playing cards quite near the desk.

guest

@Dieter Heymann – actually lots of sitting around on the floor at Schipol, Bruxxels, Frankfurt, etc etc anyone eurotraveling should atest to this.
BTW Heymann you' re not Shin Bet or Mossad per chance are you dahlling ?

Learning

Kurt Haskell mentioned that he WAS sitting on the floor. The waiting area was very crowded.

Lionel

And I believe Haskell says it was at the boarding gate, not the ticket counter. Very normal that people would sit on floor in crowded gate area.

Guest

ICTS should be declared a terrorist network. Every airport conducting business with this terrorist group should be shut down until this Israeli 'security' terrorist organization is arrested for plotting, aiding and abetting terrorism on the public.

9 scientists, one of them Niels Harrit from Uni of Copenhagen, have examined some of the dust from WTC for 18 months, they wrote a scientific paper on their findings and Niels Harrit was interviewed on Danish TV 2. They conclude that 10-100 tons of nano-thermite were placed in the three buildings. Science is science. Or what ?

Knowing all these strange facts one is lead to believe there is NO Strange Factor involved. So many coincidences are only possible if someone was organizing them. It was simply the time to make Americans more hysterical who are thus more manageable. My guess is that it was simply one of those Mossad operation which so fabulously succeed in our Land of the Free etc.
Wasn't surprised at all when the boy pleaded "not guilty"

Sherman

Or how about another "October Surprise" incident to simply benefit the Republican Party by making Obama look bad? This fellow in Massachusetts race ran on terrorism and the issue was handed to him by the Christmas bomber. David Aaron and Gary Sick of Jimmy Carter's national security team both publicly made clear they believe Reagan's campaign negotiated with the Iranians to keep the hostages until after the election. If it happened once, and it worked and no one was caught, why wouldn't it happen again?

Friends, don't be pickin' on J. regarding 911. There are reasons. Besides, he's the only one who's kept this art students thing on the burners all these years. If not for J. the info would have disappeared years ago. Look for the bigger picture. Get some perspective. The surest way to poison our cause is to become associated with an easily dismissable issue. I don't say wrong, I say easily dismissable. Which is exactly the case in a Bizarro World where the entire media seems to be controlled by the very culprits at question. The war is the bigger issue. It's the war that's consuming the nation. The other thing will out in time but right now these endless wars are the issue.

Spire

Nelson 2008 – This guy is dead on!

"What I find "weird" (more than "weird" actually), is how a scientific paper can be published in a peer reviewed, open scientific journal, wherein the authors claim to have found significant quantities of nanothermite (a novel, highly energetic, explosive/incendiary substance) in the dust from the WTC building collapses of 09/11/2001…and that somehow doesn't even rate as "news" at antiwar.com?http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOC… "

The Left has a proud saying about following the evidence no matter where it leads. Why? For the sake of truth and justice. Period. It also has a proud heritage among Academics and especially among Scientists. Nanothermite in the 9/11 dust is Science. It is a fact. It is measurable.

Conclusion: The Left Had Lost Its Balls. Their corporate denial is rampant, and sadly gutless. The Left has become just like Obama: gutless and feckless. Nanothermite puts up a huge unmistakabke flare the whole world sees. And the Left, along with the media and the Right — NOT ONE WORD. That alone should send up another flare. And from the Left Antiwar crowd, the unbelievable response:
Nothing to See Here.

Well, here is an antiwar hero for decades who has something to tell you about 9/11.
Search: Graeme MacQueen, from MacMaster. If you have the guts. He sure does.

Nanothermite is a real thing. If you can't wrap your legs around that, then do a quick historical search on false flag ops, like Gulf of Tonkien, something I hope this generation of antiwar enthusiasts have heard about. Flight 253 stinks, and it is a super opportunity to educate the Left mind. Thanks Nelson 2008 for saying it like it is. Thanks Graeme for being so lucid.

USPatriot

Simple – 'practice run'. Sounds to me that somebody was testing 'the system'. Somebody was definitely assisting this poor imbecile play the role of a 'terrorist'. Now, is the government completely clueless or are they deliberately covering stuff up? THAT is what needs to be looked into.

Reality Factor

Options:
1- Clueless, can't admit that.
2-Covering up their cluelessness or limitations to tell any info available to their rank.
3-What ever the 'weird factor is may handicap people's cognition in general, but to different degrees and subjects.
4-Consider the reality factor and the importance to verify it so that the real crime comes to light'

Dan

Did it ever occur to anyone that this might have been a government set up to make the manufacturers of the scanning machines that show naked images of passengers rich? Remember how people were so outraged at the thought of walking through these machines, certainly feeling a sense of personal violation as well as violation of the 4th Amendment? Guess what will be coming to an airport near you. We all must think that the unthinkable is real: shock and awe has come home to roost in the United States. Welcome to the 21st Century American Empire.

"The wierd factor," yes indeed. From 9/11/01 right up until the present, do you ever get the feeling that events are being orchestrated along the lines of a badly written B rated movie script? Thin of all that has happened since then; Iraq, the TSA, Afghanistan, the Dept. of Homeland Security, the Patriot Act, Guantanamo, Pakistan, Yemen, and on, and on, and on. And how will it all end? "We are traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind; a journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's the signpost up ahead — your next stop, the Government Zone."

Belated response to your comment, Henry, but you're dead on. It does read like a bad script and that's why it's both unbelievable and yet curiously enough believed. You wonder why people buy crap by the boat load or rent movies that are pure garbage but it all makes some sort of sick sense.

Gekke

It gets weirder when you see whats happening in Canada ahead of the 2010 Olympics.

Prime Minister Harper has mysteriously prorogued Parliament until after the Olympics, without giving any valid reason. The company in charge of security at the Vancouver airport also happens to be Verint, the same company that was in charge of security for the London Underground at the time of the 7/7 attacks, after which all video cameras were said to not be functioning during the incident

Another +1 for Nelson's comments about the WTC and 9/11. I can understand why Raimondo has been hesitant to endorse some of the 9/11 conspiracy theories, but he goes out of his way to dismiss them as the ravings of lunatics.

I think the folks who set him up with the crotch bomb didn't want it to explode, but rather create a reason to install the x-ray machines and give the US a reason to make war in Yemen. Think about it. Are serious terrorists so incompetent that they don't know how to detonate PETN?

i think the indians where in on it because the indians and the u.s. and isreal want to contain china and from building a pipeline …yemen is strategic somehow for that….these countries can easily set up something like this. then move the forces where they need to….they do it all the time it seems.
here is the article its called Obama's Yemeni Odyssey Targets China by M K Bhadrakumar and its a must read…..http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LA09Ak03…

This post is a perfect example of the fallacy from incredulity. Thank you for the great opportunity to demonstrate shoddy thinking and illogical argumentation in action. I always love a chance to demonstrate to my readers what happens when one abandons rational thought in favor of blind faith, and you as always provide in spades. I've saved the URL and made sure to write up the illogic behind this post on my blog. Thanks again! Keep it coming! :)

Aignier

Jettison the "panty bomber" phrase.
This guy's official title is the CROTCH Bomber!

Justin Raimondo is the editorial director of Antiwar.com, and a senior fellow at the Randolph Bourne Institute. He is a contributing editor at The American Conservative, and writes a monthly column for Chronicles. He is the author of Reclaiming the American Right: The Lost Legacy of the Conservative Movement [Center for Libertarian Studies, 1993; Intercollegiate Studies Institute, 2000], and An Enemy of the State: The Life of Murray N. Rothbard [Prometheus Books, 2000].