Uh.. Millennium is not a sister or daughter or whatever of Innova. They're a company that contracts Dave to design models to performance specs, and contracts with Innova for production. It's not like DN and our sister sites where the executive team is the same; INN/MILL are separate companies and one of them contracts the other for production. There are pretty clear differences in approach between the two companies. This wasn't presented as a favorite production facility poll. $0.02

Favorite oldschool company: Innova
Favorite newschool company: MVP
Most impressed by this year: Legacy
Most pleasantly surprised by eventually this year: Prodigy plastic
Most bestest stamps that aren't mine: Westside

Uh.. Millennium is not a sister or daughter or whatever of Innova. They're a company that contracts Dave to design models to performance specs, and contracts with Innova for production. It's not like DN and our sister sites where the executive team is the same; INN/MILL are separate companies and one of them contracts the other for production. There are pretty clear differences in approach between the two companies. This wasn't presented as a favorite production facility poll. $0.02

Favorite oldschool company: Innova
Favorite newschool company: MVP
Most impressed by this year: Legacy
Most pleasantly surprised by eventually this year: Prodigy plastic
Most bestest stamps that aren't mine: Westside

I'm glad you said that I did not know that, I was told Discmania & Millennium were both sister companies of Innova. If Millennium isn't a sister company then why are Innova pros allowed to throw Discmania & Millennium discs in competition?

I'm glad you said that I did not know that, I was told Discmania & Millennium were both sister companies of Innova. If Millennium isn't a sister company then why are Innova pros allowed to throw Discmania & Millennium discs in competition?

Because these brands clearly don't represent or promote the disc-making abilities of any other company. They're designed by the same guy, made by the same factory, but marketed and branded with more "indie" approaches.

While I was at MILL it was explained to me that the company remained in Innova's good graces as a means to keep their hand in the pockets of players who didn't want to support the big giant. I do believe that MILL was founded and existed as a more experimental brand, being the first to market a premium plastic and a top-down logically simplistic lineup. The vision was muddied once all the original parties were out of the picture in 2010 or so. But the core of the brand was very different than Innova, and often at odds with Innova's approach. There were still only 8 models in the Millennium lineup as of 2009... that's as un-Innova as it gets.

There are still things I admire greatly about the old original Millennium. They're good folks who run it now but it's not the same vision.