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Yes, there are people who express legitimate facts and opinions about the Holocaust, and who are called Holocaust deniers. There are countries with laws against Holocaust denial, and many of them make it a crime to even express certain opinions. I do not agree with those laws, and I do not trust any Holocaust info from those countries.

No, I did not say that. If you want to disagree with me, then give me an example of censorship that is just against obvious falsehoods. The European/Canadian Holocaust denial laws do not just prohibit obvious falsehoods, according to the Wikipedia article.

You have used the term "Holocaust denier" very loosely, and you apparently wish to censor some political opinions with which you disagree. I believe in free speech. I asked you for an example of where I might be wrong, and you could not give me one.

No, I am not a Nazi history expert. The term Holocaust denial is used loosely, and here is an example. Deborah Lipstadt, a leader of the cause to silence Holocaust deniers, says that it is soft-core Holocaust denial to accuse Israel of committing genocide on the Palestinians. In my opinion, Israel is not committing genocide. But there is a germ of truth to the accusation, and it should not be censored.

Holocaust denier is not my term. If I were defining the term, I would define it in terms of people who deny demonstrable facts. If you want to know what people are being called Holocaust deniers, and what they opinions are, I suggest that you google them. I was making a comment about censorship. I have shown you that the Holocaust denial laws attempt to censor legitimate opinions. If you have some counterexample to what I said, go ahead and post it. Otherwise, I can only assume that you are trying to provoke a straw man argument on a different subject.

I googled Holocaust deniers, and found Mark Weber's opinion. He is supposed to be the leading Holocaust denier, but he appears to accept the gist of the Holocaust. I also found Noam Chomsky, who should not be called a Holocaust denier at all. He does have some eccentric political views. There are also people who are anti-Israel or pro-Arab or have some other motivation.

As I write this, there is someone on MSNBC complaining about those who question Barack Obama's birth certificate. He says that it is racist to question the legitimacy of a black President.