kentx12 wrote:I find this hillarious. Everyone of the Bonds supporters say the chronicle this the chronicle that. Now they do a book about him. Surely if this hero of yours was as inocent as you all proclaim he would come out and say something about this wouldnt he? A law suit of some sort? No he wont say a word. He knows there isnt a thing he can do about people reporting the truth.

Kent makes a great point. Why isn't Bonds suing? If these allegations are untrue it is a pretty clear case of libel.

As DK pointed out the article has only been out a few hrs. but if someone is writeing a book about a man im sure he knew of it. Couldnt he have allready been working on getting it stopped if it is full of lies or even some false information?

There will come a day when Barry Bonds leaves baseball, and everything about the game will be the better for it.

kentx12 wrote:I find this hillarious. Everyone of the Bonds supporters say the chronicle this the chronicle that. Now they do a book about him. Surely if this hero of yours was as inocent as you all proclaim he would come out and say something about this wouldnt he? A law suit of some sort? No he wont say a word. He knows there isnt a thing he can do about people reporting the truth.

Kent makes a great point. Why isn't Bonds suing? If these allegations are untrue it is a pretty clear case of libel.

Honestly IMO I don't think he cares about clearing his name. It's been dragged through the mud so many times it's not worth cleaning since 99% of America will think he's dirty even if he passes a urine test right in front of ESPN cameras.

there's one part to thier case that appears incredibly shaky on the surface:

The belief that the changes in Bonds's body reflect steroid use is supported by the research of Harvard psychiatrist Harrison Pope, an expert on the mental-health effects of steroid abuse. In 1995, in The Clinical Journal of Sports Medicine, Pope and three colleagues published a mathematical formula for use in determining whether a person is using steroids. The "Fat-Free Mass Index," as the formula is called, predicts steroid use from a series of computations involving the subject's "lean muscle mass," which is determined from height, weight and percentage of body fat. The higher the index number, the leaner and more muscular the individual is. The average 30-year-old American male scores 20, Pope says, while the former Mr. America Steve Reeves, the most famous muscle man of the presteroid era, scored 25 in his prime. A score of more than 25 indicates steroid use.

In 1997, when Bonds reportedly weighed 206 and had 8% body fat, he scored 24.8 on the index. In 2002, when Bonds reportedly weighed 228 and had body fat of 6.2% his score was 28 -- well over the level of a "presumptive diagnosis" of steroid use.

Now, if the only 3 components to this test are height, weight, and body fat %, then this index is complete garbage. I've been 6', 215, <=8% and i was not on steroids. It would have to be a lot more complicated to carry any validity.

I don't like Bonds, but the statement that if this was not true he would sue us wrong. The standard for filing suit for a public figure is quite different than for you or me. There are more elements that have to be proved. You have to not only prove the allegations are false but that they are malicious in nature. Not only that, but you have to go through discovery, in which your entire life becomes an open book and you cannot refuse to answer questions that are even tangentially related to the issue, and you are under oath during these depositions. No celebrity wishes to go through those. It is absurd to suggest that because Bonds does not file suit that the allegations must be true.

I don't like Bonds, but the statement that if this was not true he would sue us wrong. The standard for filing suit for a public figure is quite different than for you or me. There are more elements that have to be proved. You have to not only prove the allegations are false but that they are malicious in nature. Not only that, but you have to go through discovery, in which your entire life becomes an open book and you cannot refuse to answer questions that are even tangentially related to the issue, and you are under oath during these depositions. No celebrity wishes to go through those. It is absurd to suggest that because Bonds does not file suit that the allegations must be true.

Hence the whole reason he does not want to sue. He would have to answer questions about his steroid use and his affairs...

You have no frame of reference, Donny. You're like a child who walks into the middle of a movie...