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On a biological level - potential children that are produced from it have a considerably higher rate of birth defects. And on a social level - given that often these relationships may be between say a mother/father and one of their children - there is a weird type of "authority" underlying the relationship that i'm uneasy with (similar to the relationship between a teacher and student).

There are very few things that you'll find a consensus on when you move between cultures around the world, but anti-incest attitudes is generally one of them. And i'm fine being part of that majority.

Originally Posted by Tom Gabel

Adrenaline carried one last thought to fruition.
Let this be the end.
Let this be the last song.
Let this be the end.
Let all be forgiven.

I think the argument was that you said it's fine so long as no children are made; just because there's no intention to have children doesn't mean it won't happen. How would you enforce it, mandatory abortions?

I think the argument was that you said it's fine so long as no children are made; just because there's no intention to have children doesn't mean it won't happen. How would you enforce it, mandatory abortions?

I feel like you didn't really read my post......

Originally Posted by Llamas

As long as age of consent laws are followed, I don't really care in theory.

However, I think there has to be a law against it because, while it happening once between, say, cousins wouldn't be a big deal, what often happens with incest is a bunch of inbreeding, and that's a big problem. If there was a way to say, incest is fine as long as no reproduction is involved, I'd be okay with it. I mean, it's still icky and weird, but it wouldn't be a problem.

Since there's no way to enforce that, I think there have to be laws against incest.

On a personal level, I'm against it because of the deontological "It's just something that's not supposed to be".
From a more societal perspective I would argue against it because of the risks of inbreeding. However, if no reproduction were involved this would be an invalid argument.
Another argument against that would be that people (especially in the US) are very free to do stupid things (stuff themselves with unhealthy foods being just one option) to themselves, so why not this?
The problem with these "let people do what they want to do" arguments is that in theory, this all sounds nice and liberal, but in reality there is almost always harm being caused to a third party (or, in case of coercive incest, one of the direct participants), which is why these behaviors are so heavily debated.

So the argument shouldn't be "incest should be legal because having children at old age or stuffing yourself with unhealthy foods is legal, too", but "causing birth defects because of having children at too old age or stuffing yourself with unhealthy foods until you get cancer should be just as illegal as incest" (even if this particular example may sound a little ridiculous to some).

Last edited by ad8; 03-12-2013 at 03:38 AM.

Originally Posted by SåS

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Originally Posted by RexDarr

Our goal is to find a drummer & rythm guitarist, record a 5 song demo, get on the radio,

Right...but a brother and sister making a web toed baby with a bifurcated tongue and 2 heads is so victimless. Come to think about it, based on some of the replies I have read, some of you freaks may have been the product of an incestual relationship. Give it a google.

That'd be an awesome child, I hope I have a kid that comes out that way. My sisters aren't what I consider attractive though, and we're only half-siblings, I'm not sure it'd work. Maybe I'll take a run at a hot cousin or something. It's worth a shot, right?