Op wo 27-10-2004, om 14:57 schreef Hilbert Mostert:
> Hi list,
>
>
> I am a "happy" owner of an Acer Aspire 2000 laptop (Centrino 1,4GHz, 512 MB
> ram, 40 Gb hd (Hitachi) Radeon 9200 64 Mb, Fedora Core 2, Kernel 2.6.8+). The
> laptop has been returned three times to the reseller because of an corrupted
> harddisk. While this could be a hardware problem the problem always returns
> when i'm using my wireless network under Linux.
I own an Acer Aspire 2200, same setup but with the Intel 2200 chipset.
No problems on that one.
>
> The wireless adapter is an Intel 2100b Wireless Device, and when I start it
> the whole laptop warms up and after a while i get DriveReady SeekComplete
> errors, and sometimes when i reboot the partitions are corrupt, or my
> bootloader is corrupted. When i switch off the laptop and leave it off for a
> while the laptop boots without problems. It has cost me two hd's already
> because in the end the whole hd is broken.
Funny enough, I have the exact same problems you describe on my PC.
But that one just uses a normal ethernet-card. No wireless.
Frequent hangs, not able to boot because the bootloader is corrupt.
Leaving the PC off for a while, and everything boots up normally usally.
So, maybe you and I have cooling problem?
>
> While it might look like these problems do not belong to this list i have
> chosen to send it anyway because it always shows u when i'm using the ipw2100
> driver.
Are you sure about this? Is it directly tracable to the driver?
Maybe there is increased hard disk activity warming up the disk?
>
> Does anybody else has the same problems/symptoms with his laptop and have
> found a solution for it, or does anybody have seen this problems?
As described, same problems, but on my PC without wireless, not on my
wireless laptop.
Tino

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Hi list,
I am a "happy" owner of an Acer Aspire 2000 laptop (Centrino 1,4GHz, 512 MB
ram, 40 Gb hd (Hitachi) Radeon 9200 64 Mb, Fedora Core 2, Kernel 2.6.8+). The
laptop has been returned three times to the reseller because of an corrupted
harddisk. While this could be a hardware problem the problem always returns
when i'm using my wireless network under Linux.
The wireless adapter is an Intel 2100b Wireless Device, and when I start it
the whole laptop warms up and after a while i get DriveReady SeekComplete
errors, and sometimes when i reboot the partitions are corrupt, or my
bootloader is corrupted. When i switch off the laptop and leave it off for a
while the laptop boots without problems. It has cost me two hd's already
because in the end the whole hd is broken.
While it might look like these problems do not belong to this list i have
chosen to send it anyway because it always shows u when i'm using the ipw2100
driver.
Does anybody else has the same problems/symptoms with his laptop and have
found a solution for it, or does anybody have seen this problems?
Sincerely,
Hilbert Mostert

Hello,
A few days ago I wrote that my harddsik was corrupted possibly by the ipw2100
driver.
Last friday my backlight of my LCD panel stopped working and when i asked a
bit around by others with the same laptop , all problems seem to be related
to the power supply or batteries that come with te laptop.
It's an ACER laptop and it is the most used at my institute, and sadly also
the laptops with the most problems.
I think that the problem with my laptop was triggered by the usage of my
wireless network, not because of the driver but because of the power that the
adapter needs.
The laptop has been returned to ACER while i write this and they'll send me a
new model (i hope it does work longer though because i had mine for half a
year and it has been in the ACER repair labs for almost two months. So i had
the laptop for only for months.
I would like to thank the community for the support and ideas!
Sincerely,
Hilbert Mostert

Op wo 03-11-2004, om 10:04 +0100 uur schreef Hilbert Mostert:
> A few days ago I wrote that my harddsik was corrupted possibly by the ipw2100
> driver.
>
> Last friday my backlight of my LCD panel stopped working and when i asked a
> bit around by others with the same laptop , all problems seem to be related
> to the power supply or batteries that come with te laptop.
>
> It's an ACER laptop and it is the most used at my institute, and sadly also
> the laptops with the most problems.
>
> I think that the problem with my laptop was triggered by the usage of my
> wireless network, not because of the driver but because of the power that the
> adapter needs.
>
> The laptop has been returned to ACER while i write this and they'll send me a
> new model (i hope it does work longer though because i had mine for half a
> year and it has been in the ACER repair labs for almost two months. So i had
> the laptop for only for months.
>
> I would like to thank the community for the support and ideas!
Thanks for letting us know what the problem was.
The people googling the archives in the future will be happy too!
Tino

Op wo 27-10-2004, om 14:57 schreef Hilbert Mostert:
> Hi list,
>
>
> I am a "happy" owner of an Acer Aspire 2000 laptop (Centrino 1,4GHz, 512 MB
> ram, 40 Gb hd (Hitachi) Radeon 9200 64 Mb, Fedora Core 2, Kernel 2.6.8+). The
> laptop has been returned three times to the reseller because of an corrupted
> harddisk. While this could be a hardware problem the problem always returns
> when i'm using my wireless network under Linux.
I own an Acer Aspire 2200, same setup but with the Intel 2200 chipset.
No problems on that one.
>
> The wireless adapter is an Intel 2100b Wireless Device, and when I start it
> the whole laptop warms up and after a while i get DriveReady SeekComplete
> errors, and sometimes when i reboot the partitions are corrupt, or my
> bootloader is corrupted. When i switch off the laptop and leave it off for a
> while the laptop boots without problems. It has cost me two hd's already
> because in the end the whole hd is broken.
Funny enough, I have the exact same problems you describe on my PC.
But that one just uses a normal ethernet-card. No wireless.
Frequent hangs, not able to boot because the bootloader is corrupt.
Leaving the PC off for a while, and everything boots up normally usally.
So, maybe you and I have cooling problem?
>
> While it might look like these problems do not belong to this list i have
> chosen to send it anyway because it always shows u when i'm using the ipw2100
> driver.
Are you sure about this? Is it directly tracable to the driver?
Maybe there is increased hard disk activity warming up the disk?
>
> Does anybody else has the same problems/symptoms with his laptop and have
> found a solution for it, or does anybody have seen this problems?
As described, same problems, but on my PC without wireless, not on my
wireless laptop.
Tino

Hi,
I had similar problems, again on a laptop without a 2200. It was
never properly diagnosed; the suspicion was that it was a motherboard
problem. Although I got repeated errors reading from the hard disk,
hardware tests on the disk always passed.
Best,
Matthew
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:25:48 +0200, Tino Meinen <a.t.meinen@...> wrote:
> Op wo 27-10-2004, om 14:57 schreef Hilbert Mostert:
> > Hi list,
> >
> >
> > I am a "happy" owner of an Acer Aspire 2000 laptop (Centrino 1,4GHz, 512 MB
> > ram, 40 Gb hd (Hitachi) Radeon 9200 64 Mb, Fedora Core 2, Kernel 2.6.8+). The
> > laptop has been returned three times to the reseller because of an corrupted
> > harddisk. While this could be a hardware problem the problem always returns
> > when i'm using my wireless network under Linux.
> I own an Acer Aspire 2200, same setup but with the Intel 2200 chipset.
> No problems on that one.
> >
> > The wireless adapter is an Intel 2100b Wireless Device, and when I start it
> > the whole laptop warms up and after a while i get DriveReady SeekComplete
> > errors, and sometimes when i reboot the partitions are corrupt, or my
> > bootloader is corrupted. When i switch off the laptop and leave it off for a
> > while the laptop boots without problems. It has cost me two hd's already
> > because in the end the whole hd is broken.
> Funny enough, I have the exact same problems you describe on my PC.
> But that one just uses a normal ethernet-card. No wireless.
> Frequent hangs, not able to boot because the bootloader is corrupt.
> Leaving the PC off for a while, and everything boots up normally usally.
> So, maybe you and I have cooling problem?
>
> >
> > While it might look like these problems do not belong to this list i have
> > chosen to send it anyway because it always shows u when i'm using the ipw2100
> > driver.
> Are you sure about this? Is it directly tracable to the driver?
> Maybe there is increased hard disk activity warming up the disk?
> >
> > Does anybody else has the same problems/symptoms with his laptop and have
> > found a solution for it, or does anybody have seen this problems?
> As described, same problems, but on my PC without wireless, not on my
> wireless laptop.
>
> Tino
>
>
>
>
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Hi all,
It is certainly strange because the tests pass all the time, but in the end
the harddisk gets really corrupt. I don't know if it is because of the driver
but it always shows up when i'm using wireless with the ip2100 driver, never
on a different moment.
I'ts still strange and i'll try to find out more.
-Hilbert
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 20:24, Matthew Brett wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I had similar problems, again on a laptop without a 2200. It was
> never properly diagnosed; the suspicion was that it was a motherboard
> problem. Although I got repeated errors reading from the hard disk,
> hardware tests on the disk always passed.
>
> Best,
>
> Matthew
>
> On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:25:48 +0200, Tino Meinen <a.t.meinen@...>
wrote:
> > Op wo 27-10-2004, om 14:57 schreef Hilbert Mostert:
> > > Hi list,
> > >
> > >
> > > I am a "happy" owner of an Acer Aspire 2000 laptop (Centrino 1,4GHz,
> > > 512 MB ram, 40 Gb hd (Hitachi) Radeon 9200 64 Mb, Fedora Core 2, Kernel
> > > 2.6.8+). The laptop has been returned three times to the reseller
> > > because of an corrupted harddisk. While this could be a hardware
> > > problem the problem always returns when i'm using my wireless network
> > > under Linux.
> >
> > I own an Acer Aspire 2200, same setup but with the Intel 2200 chipset.
> > No problems on that one.
> >
> > > The wireless adapter is an Intel 2100b Wireless Device, and when I
> > > start it the whole laptop warms up and after a while i get DriveReady
> > > SeekComplete errors, and sometimes when i reboot the partitions are
> > > corrupt, or my bootloader is corrupted. When i switch off the laptop
> > > and leave it off for a while the laptop boots without problems. It has
> > > cost me two hd's already because in the end the whole hd is broken.
> >
> > Funny enough, I have the exact same problems you describe on my PC.
> > But that one just uses a normal ethernet-card. No wireless.
> > Frequent hangs, not able to boot because the bootloader is corrupt.
> > Leaving the PC off for a while, and everything boots up normally usally.
> > So, maybe you and I have cooling problem?
> >
> > > While it might look like these problems do not belong to this list i
> > > have chosen to send it anyway because it always shows u when i'm using
> > > the ipw2100 driver.
> >
> > Are you sure about this? Is it directly tracable to the driver?
> > Maybe there is increased hard disk activity warming up the disk?
> >
> > > Does anybody else has the same problems/symptoms with his laptop and
> > > have found a solution for it, or does anybody have seen this problems?
> >
> > As described, same problems, but on my PC without wireless, not on my
> > wireless laptop.
> >
> > Tino
> >
> >
> >
> >
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On Thursday 28 October 2004 21:36, Hilbert Mostert wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> It is certainly strange because the tests pass all the time, but in the end
> the harddisk gets really corrupt. I don't know if it is because of the
> driver but it always shows up when i'm using wireless with the ip2100
> driver, never on a different moment.
>
> I'ts still strange and i'll try to find out more.
The radio draws considerable power. I have seen bad drives go over the edge
with lack of proper voltage. Are you sure this is not the problem? Can you
test with a different PSU?
--
Regards,
Christian Iversen

Wow! See comments inserted below...
On Wednesday, 2004-10-27 at 10:57:51 PM, Hilbert Mostert scribbled:
> laptop has been returned three times to the reseller because of an corrupted
> harddisk. While this could be a hardware problem the problem always returns
> when i'm using my wireless network under Linux.
I doubt it's the network driver but guess it's _possible.
However, it sounds more like a (still) faulty hard disk drive. You may like
to try using disk 'burn in' / testing software like bonnie++ and see what
happens (with the 2100 driver module unloaded).
See how warm the laptop becomes? ;-P
>
> The wireless adapter is an Intel 2100b Wireless Device, and when I start it
> the whole laptop warms up and after a while i get DriveReady SeekComplete
Warms up... wowza. ;-P
> errors, and sometimes when i reboot the partitions are corrupt, or my
> bootloader is corrupted. When i switch off the laptop and leave it off for a
> while the laptop boots without problems. It has cost me two hd's already
> because in the end the whole hd is broken.
>
Could still be broken, unfortunately... ;-P
--
Benjamin Lee
Melbourne, AU +61.4.16.BEN.LEE http://www.realthought.net/
__________________________________________________________________________
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Oh, from what other people have said... it could also be another hardware
problem... e.g. motherboard, etc.
There are other hardware stressing tools out there:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/va-ctcs/http://www.memtest.org/
Or you could try a base Linux install and continous kernel compile:
# from back in the 2.4 days
while true ; do make clean; make -j2 bzImage vmlinux modules ; if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then echo OUCH OUCH OUCH OUCH; exit 1; fi; done
But when all is said and done... it may come back to your hardware vendor
and warranty.
On Thursday, 2004-10-28 at 03:24:10 AM, Benjamin Lee scribbled:
> Wow! See comments inserted below...
>
> On Wednesday, 2004-10-27 at 10:57:51 PM, Hilbert Mostert scribbled:
>
> > laptop has been returned three times to the reseller because of an corrupted
> > harddisk. While this could be a hardware problem the problem always returns
> > when i'm using my wireless network under Linux.
>
> I doubt it's the network driver but guess it's _possible.
>
> However, it sounds more like a (still) faulty hard disk drive. You may like
> to try using disk 'burn in' / testing software like bonnie++ and see what
> happens (with the 2100 driver module unloaded).
*snip*
--
Benjamin Lee
Melbourne, AU +61.4.16.BEN.LEE http://www.realthought.net/
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