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If you want to see why Americans are afraid to have hardened Islamic terrorists tried on American soil–and why Bill Clinton didn’t want to capture and return Bin Laden to the U.S. for trial–all you have to do is look at the circus that is the Nidal Malik Hasan trial. Although his is a military trial, there are plenty of nutty judges in American civilian courts just like the ass that is military judge Col. Tara A. Osborn. As I previously told you, she replaced the original judge who was removed for “religious discrimination” after he insisted that Hasan shave his beard, as is required in the military. Osborn has, on the other hand, granted every circus act request by Hasan. And, now, as if his victims and his victims’ families haven’t been victimized enough, Colonel-atrix Osborn granted Hasan an office, lots of staff, and the right to question his victims. It’s an outrage–an Islamic terrorist gets to harass his victims further than he has already. He murdered 13, and I guess that’s not enough. Now he gets to harass those who were lucky enough to survive, courtesy of you–the American taxpayer.

On Monday a judge said she would allow Maj. Nadal Hasan to represent himself during his murder trial. This means he will get to question potential jurors and cross examine victims he’s accused of shooting.

The judge, Col. Tara Osborn, Monday heard a doctor’s report about Hasan’s physical condition before ruling on his request. The doctor said Hasan would be able to sit for 12 hours with breaks. Hasan is paralyzed from the waist down after being shot by police the day of the attack at the Texas Army post.

The judge said last week that a report indicates Hasan is mentally competent to represent himself. Jury selection is set to start Wednesday.

Court was in recess until 12:30 p.m. Monday, at which time the judge, prosecutors and Hasan discussed the logistics of the trial scheduled to begin July 1.

WFAA reports that Hasan asked for a three-month delay to ID witnesses and prepare evidence.

Judge Osborn ordered the U.S. Army to set up an office for Hasan by 3 p.m. Monday, since he has no defense team anymore. . . . Officials say eighteen portential jurors, or panelists. are coming from out of town for the jury selection process. Hasan faces the death penalty or life in prison without parole if convicted.

Col. Osborn made the ruling to let Hasan represent himself after a two-hour hearing Monday morning from inside a heavily fortified courthouse guarded by armed soldiers. She later ordered Army officials to set up an office for Hasan by 3 p.m. this afternoon, as he dismissed his defense team. . . .

Survivors of the shooting have expressed anxiety about Hasan cross-examining them at trial. “It’s a huge concern,” said Army Sgt. Alonzo Lunsford, now retired. “People are basically saying ‘how do they expect us to act?’” “They need to think about the repercussions of him representing himself and what that might do to the victims and families of the deceased,” Sgt. Lunsford explained.

The former Army medic said Maj. Hasan shot him seven times, once in the head at close range and six times in his body. Blind now in his left eye, Sgt. Lunsford also lost half of his intestines while trying to recover from the 2009 attack. “We’ve gone through major life changes,” he said. “He’s being treated like he’s the victim. What’s going to stop one of us from jumping across that table?” . . .

Hasan said he reads the Koran for two hours in the morning. “I fast quite frequently and skip lunch,” he said.

Aw, what a saint!

Selection of a panel, known as a jury in the military justice system, begins Wednesday. Hasan’s trial is scheduled to start on July 1.

Yes, you are paying for him to set up an office, have a staff, and put his victims through more and more and more.

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Debbie,

He is representing himself after all and no one wants to give him any grounds for appeal. I say let him cross-examine the surviving victims. Let’s have America get a taste of Islam – as in who an Islamic terrorist really is.

Hasan is no saint and he’s not part of the American family! He should have been killed in the first place and the death penalty is too kind to the likes of him. Let the jury get a crash course in Islam!

I agree entirely with you, Norman that he should show all the world what a terrorist thinks and believes. I am of the opinion that the very recognition of Islam as a religion in this country should be on trial; it would be statuses as a terrorist ideology and outlawed if put under enough scrutiny!!

Just another slap in the face of a dying country. That’s what it is.
Some things like this make me wonder how much better we would be with the military actually in charge of the limp wrists in the government. Of course now with all the nosers that have climbed the ladder there might be a lot of the same, but it surely couldn’t be any worse. I’d have to think that this savage wouldn’t have been able to make it into the military, let alone make officers rank and brow beat heros coming back from combat zones that should only be nuked out holes. Yeah, that’s what scum bags like him do when the heroes come back. They provoke them with liberal talking points to attempt to get them to throw a punch or say something they can destroy them with. I can only imagine the doosies major jerk face was throwing out there. His business card spoke for itself.

I have to say it sucks! But that’s not a favor to Hasan. That’s who we are and our justice system still stands heads and shoulders above the ones in Muslim countries. We don’t have to apologize for our treatment of him.

Our enemies hate us any way! Let’s be clear this was NOT an act of “workplace violence.” It was a savage and evil Islamic terrorist attack. Hasan is inadvertently giving his victims a platform.

They’ll have their day in court and they can press their case home. I hope they make themselves heard!

But I’d bet that, like the British soldier slasher stood up and kissed his koran, Hassan will grandstand as much as possible. He should be completely restrained, unable to wear his uniform. Just an orange jump suit. Wrists, and leg irons with a black box over his wrists to prevent possible escape. Not very comfortable. Maybe a spitter hood to protect the victims during questioning. The spitter hood is a simple sack worn by the accused so as to discourage spitting at others.

But Norman, one big reason for a military tribunal is MILITARY due process. Yet it seems that nowadays military due process is similar to civilian due process on a range of cases, including Islam-based killings. This is not at all traditional or “who we are.”

I’m inclined toward civilian due process generally for acts occurring on our soil. But for acts that occur in military compounds?

I share part of your enthusiasm for his suffering in a chair for the rest of his life. Hopefully.
But with the wheel chair he will get to have a designated chair pusher in the prison for his convenience of course. While in the chair, he will then have an extra place to hide contraband like weapons, or money, or possibly some kind of wire tapping. Hey, we are talking about PRISONERS rights. Some are more equal than others. I’ve seen the modern idea of incarceration in this country. It’s revolting how much they get away with. Especially claiming to be INSANE.

There was something amiss as I read this, but didn’t realize it until I’d read it the second time (I’m a lil’ slow on the uptake, sometimes) and that was that this P.O.S. (with apologies to regular feces everywhere) is still under martial law as is every serviceman governed by the rules of the U.C.M.J. (uniform code of military justice, for the unanointed) which by definition are incontrovertible. This code and the facets thereof are drilled into every soldier, sailor, marine and airman from day one.

Every step, every breath, every utterance by every service man or woman is held to that standard exactly. Your Constitutional rights are waived when you take that oath and they are not restored until the military is done with you under accordance thereof.

Major Jihad as a prisoner facing court martial still has to abide by and take orders from his superiors including having to abide by dress and appearance codes. This whole thing is a travesty and mockery of one of the last bastions of honor and service. This scumbag should have been tried and sentenced by a military court, have him wheeled agains6t a brick wall at Leavenworth and shot and executed as a traitor long ago.

The guy is an enemy, and might as well be an enemy alien. He should be treated as such, and imprisoned until such time as he fries.

I think that twelve years is enough time to understand Islam, and people who are defending his ‘legal rights’ seem to have been subconsciously infused by the massive PC indoctrination in our society. We should use World War II criteria towards someone like Hasan. I certainly didn’t expect regular contributors to this blog to defend this pathetic decision.

Even though I agree with you, I also know that attaining and maintaining the “high ground” with Muslams is meaningless. The time is fast approaching when we will not have the time, energy or resources to maintain such. There are simply too many Muslims. You might be able to squash one or two fire ants, but eventually you have to pop the top off the fire ant killer and start spraying.

Our system of Justice represents just that, justice. Everyone is heard and evidence decides the outcome. The minute we become reactionary to every little crime, we become paranoid and soon enough we’ll live in the same Totalitarian hell hole that our enemies want us to be in.

Islam has been put on display time and again. There are no new lessons to be learned. Judge Tara is an odious creature who has handed this trial off to Major Nidal Malik Hasan to turn into a mistrial at his pleasure. Major Hasan will get to put on his “Islamic Circus” twice. Why not promote him to Lt. Colonel and pension him off? That would probably not be that much more odious for Major Hasan’s victims.

Let me get this straight. He’s been deemed compitent, he reads his koran, he prays, he fasts for religious reasons, yet this is not about the hate and intolerance of Islam, it’s about “work-place violence”? You’re shittin’ me! Okay, let him be his own lawyer. Let him show how Islam is the “religion of peace”??? Let him try and prove that the muslim nut bag terrorists are not mainstream Islamists…good luck! It will come out for all to see that muslim terrorists are the moderate muslims! BECAUSE THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS MODERATE MUSLIMS! THEY ALL WANT NON-MUSLIMS DEAD OR ENSLAVED. PERIOD! The time has come for all Americans to wake up to this truth and take action!

Red Randy – it may be time for America to take action but I’m not holding my breath. If we haven’t taken action by now, we’re not. Nothing will push us over the edge. We have Obamacare administered by the corrupt IRS; behavior modification imbedded in this non-affordable health care law, they want our guns and the truly stupid “educators” are sending 6 year olds home because they drew a picture of a gun; Homeland Security is roaming our streets; America is pandering to Islam while turning our backs on Israel; half the country is on welfare or disability; $700 BILLION has been stolen from Medicare; our president would rather go to sleep while those in service to our country are killed by Islamic mobs after his giving the order to “stand down”, Islamics have murdered 3,000 Americans at the World Trade center, and the brothers grim murdered at the Boston Marathon, and you think letting this murderer represent himself will wake up Americans? I have no such hope.

When I served, we were respectful and fearful of UCMJ. (Uniform code of military justice) Being in the stockade meant getting your ass kicked every day and getting convicted meant REAL HARD TIME in an Army prison like Leavenworth. Nobody was kissing anybody’s ass. And, as far as the military taking the reins for a while and straightening things out, Obama did his best to do that by the recent purges of the military officer corps. The only difference I see between that and Stalin’s purge of the Soviet military in the ’30’s was they didn’t take our guys to the basement of Lubyanka prison and shoot them in the back of the head. There have been a few that have had “accidents” since then. And a helluva lot of “whistle blowers”, military and civilian seem to be having accidents or committing suicide last couple years.

It’s a complete sham. Starting with the wimp decision that it was work place violence to replacing the original judge who at least wanted the a..h… to shave as he is required to do to current judge who now is allowing him to defend himself.

I hope the two cops that showed such dismal shooting accuracy at least received remedial firearms training for their demonstrated lack of competence.

Why in the world isn’t this guy WAY the hell dead already? He should have been shot dead at the scene of his crime about 900 times. He shoulda been shot so many times it killed everybody he’s even remotely related to.

Maybe somebody will “reach across the railing” in court and do the right thing by rendering justice right then and there. That’s the only way this turns out alright.

Since this entire incident has been classified as “Workplace Violence”, I sincerely hope that if Major Nadal Hasan is found guilty, he will be sentenced to death.

Now, since I am a Free Market, Capitalist, I suggest that his execution be out-sourced to a private group. My recommendation for performing the required end-of-life action is a well accomplished and greatly experienced person in these matters – VLAD THE IMPALER.

The bad thing is that this silly “judge” is allowing this atrocity, giving him a venue to spout his Muslamic pathology and insanity, playing right into the hands of jihadist lawfare. If there is any “good” side to this, it might be that America will be able to see the truth of this what-the-cat-coughed-up monster. A joint venture of David Lynch, Quentin Tarantino AND Federico Fellini couldn’t come up with a more absurd/bizarre/ depraved scenario. I’ve been shredding this, the libtard dhimmis and Muslims on Yahoo and MSN for days. I’m no legal eagle, but I see this as potentially a pivotal case in American history. I don’t know about you guys, but I feel something bizarre beyond words, the stuff of nightmares coming. Something will happen in the court room. I don’t know what it will be, but something. Maybe a good patriotic American will put a couple in his head or something similar. And, there are rumors that the current “administration” already has plans to pardon him if he’s convicted, but that’s probably just fear fantasy. This is so absurd and frightening, I have to stop thinking about it once in a while.

Aw isn’t this nice. This subhuman POS reads his little Curan and skips lunch? Excuse me while I go barf up MY lunch. Look this disgrace to the Army uniform murdered 13 people including a pregnant soldier. Not to mention the ones that were injured in his terrorist attack. Now this dumbass “Colonel”(who in my opinion wants her brigadier rank so bad she can taste the star off of Obama’s butt)is bending like Beckham to give HASSan everthing he wants. This has gone on far enough. Just now they are getting the jury together that will hear this rat defend himself. The only good thing about letting him do that is that real thinking Americans(non LOFO voters)will be able to see this maggot for what he is. An Islamic coward who knows that those cretins in the Army Chain of Command from the CinC on down do NOT care about the victims. They only care about being Mulsim PC. Hopefully HASSan will talk himself into a lethal injection. Then and only then will justice for the dead and injured be had.

Debbie, I know you’re a lawyer but one of the worst things to happen to the Army – and there are many – over the years is the increasing influence of the Judge Advocate General corps, or JAG. They went from advising commanders to telling commanders which missions they can launch in combat. And many of the JAG officers come from liberal law schools, and it shows. This judge is probably waiting until she can retire and either write a book or perhaps some law review article and maybe even get that awesome job on the faculty of Harvard Law School so she can occasionally appear on MSNBC as an expert in military law. My only hope is that Hasan pulls some stupid stunt and the jury sees that and turns it against him.

This judge is as politically naive as she is mendacious. Does she not know that the defendant will use his newfound perks as a recruiting tool for jihadists the world over? His speeches and statements, recorded for posterity, will serve as a lightning rod for Muslims everywhere to avenge their imagined grievances against America. Rather than be put on trial, Nidal plans to put America on trial. And we all know in advance the verdict in the Muslim mind: Guilty.

Why do we fear this murderer-maniac? Is it fear of ourselves being a terror target? This is not an excuse. It was Nietzsche who argued that the definition of a slave is one who believes nothing is worth risking one’s life for. This is what our country has become: a country where even military judges are slaves to their fear of death.

It certainly is a mockery of JAG and the whole court martial process. In my day, he would have just brought before a firing squad. Of course, the fix is already in at this point. JAG takes their orders from persons higher up on the food chain. In other words, civilian politicians.

Hassan is no dummy. He is well educated and has the backing of you know who? It is no secret that the whole case is political. Since he is a trained psychiatrist, he undoubtedly knows more that the court-appointed psychologists.

I believe his legal strategy will involve getting off by way of his religion, a technicality, (he is representing himself and will argue an unfair court martial on appeal with out representation because he was incompetent by was of insanity) and incorporating politicians to simply let him free because he is a Muslim that was criminally insane at the time of his acts, of course perpetuated by US foreign policy, and he was abused while incarcerated and white infidels for his entire time in America. Does he continue to receive a military salary of an army MD?

Anyway, this so-called judge will let him walk with time served, he will get back pay, front pay, a lump sum retirement, compensatory, treble and economic damages and will be lauded as a hero by all of the United States politicians, the communists and the entire Middle East. He will write a book, give lectures at NYU, Berkeley and Harvard for a half million per speech and then he will go on Oprah and she will unilaterally kiss his ass and he will aid and abet further terrorists in this country and the libs will continue to gush over the practitioners of the religion of peace.

After all of the subjugation of the US military to their Islamic overlords, even ordering that Osama Bin Laden receive an Islamic funeral, after the discrimination against straight white males in the officer promotion system of the US military, after all of the lowering of standards to accommodate women, after the abysmal treatment of the officers in the non-scandal called “Tail Hook,” after the insulting graduation speech of Obama at West Point(?) about sexual harassment in the military, any straight white male who volunteers to serve in the US military so that they can save another Islamic country (Kuwait, Bosnia, Kosovo (a part of Christian Serbia), Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, etc.) is a SCHMUCK!!!

I never served – not out of choice but because a congenital disability is a liability on the battlefield.

That said, I am in complete agreement with you today’s politically correct military offers nothing for white male recruits. Fighting and dying to save the various Barbaristans in the world shouldn’t be the mission of our Armed Forces.

Or to make women and gays feel right at home. Its more than about resenting our country’s past; its making sure we’ll never take up arms again. In that quest, Obama is almost nearly there. We can kiss the America as we knew it good-bye!

I posted this comment earlier today in response to a similar post on “Pundit and Pundette”:

Whether we like it or not, Major Hasan has a legal and Constitutional right to represent himself in his criminal trial. The trial judge is not going to allow him to berate, badger or insult the witnesses. If he abuses his self-representation with speeches and polemics in the courtroom, the judge will force him to accept appointed counsel, when, as and if that behavior requires the judge to silence him. This won’t be the first time a high-profile defendant has been allowed to represent him/her/themselves. See the Federal trial of the Chicago Seven back in the late 60’s for an example. Is it going to be nice? No. Neat? No. Perry Mason made real? No. It will be loud, obnoxious, distressing to the witnesses, aggravating to those of us who aren’t there. But, more important than all those things is this: we cannot become the vile savages we are fighting. We cannot abandon the Constitutional and legal system we’ve created because it will not be neat and pretty. Freedom is loud, noisy, rude, messy … generally inconvenient and dirty. But that is what we must have if our society and institutions are to survive the combined attacks by communists within, Islamists without and within, and idiots and fools everywhere. Hold firm and don’t be afraid to be offended or disgusted. Life isn’t a Harvard professors’ dinner party.

Oh, thanks for the banalities, Ike. He was, and is, in the military. He killed on a military base. He killed fellow military. That means he does NOT get all the bells and whistles of civilian justice. We have different rules for the military, the Uniform Code of Military Justice. You don’t like it? Then try to end it.

Skzion, Ike is one of the regular hit & run sh** disturbers. He’s so boring. Like his drab avatar. I remember the bores…and skip right over them like a fluffy sheep happily hoisting herself above a fluffy cloud (counting sheep)..never reading their wordZZZZZZZZZs.

I started to read his but by sentence 2 I became dreadfully bored. Boredom aborted.

I love this blog but there are many bores who post. I do like to see them ONLY when the thread is long…because I know who to skip and get to read all the interesting posts.

And in an annoying/kinda funny sort of irony, the crashing bores NEVER have anything of substance to say. The super-arrogant ones think they’re the most smart but the truth is they are the most boring.

So I raise my glass to boring, old “Ike” for saving me time. I have heaps who hate me here but they NEVER not read my posts. Because I know how to write and make my point compellingly. Unlike the bores.

It’s about understanding what is the limit beyond which in a democracy, when tests are documented, the right to defense of the accused, exceeds that of his victims. In this case, the defendant does not have its own importance as an individual but because it belongs to a group of ethnic and religious origin that through its lobbies, tries to maneuver justice by intervening on American politicians linked to the interests of big corporations and the media complacent. I think it’s obvious: the limit has been exceeded.

The only possible (and don’t jump down my throat about this, because i’d kill them all in a like manner) but Maybe on some level of intel, they are giving him rope to see if those he contacts can be linked to others who may lead to bigger things…It sounds like an excuse, but if we just executed them all quickly we’d never uncover the underground connections they have….Most will scoff at “information gathering” but in stark reality it goes deeper and is more effective than any other terror fighting tool we have…Many arrests and detentions of suspects are planned carefully, not because we are afraid of them, but because we want it to look like we stumbled upon them by accident, not to alert the rest of a cell that they have been discovered…it’s like FBI organized crime moles…The take down consists of a highly orchestrated plan to make it look like someone in the organization made a mistake, or is the rat, while the Mole looks like he had nothing to do with it….you think for a minute his office and staff are not under 24 seven bugging and surveillance… this guy is going to the chair eventually!. but maybe in the mean time he leads us back to the nest of sleepers right here at home?

Great now this brainwashed Islamo melon gets to do jihad on the legal system by going self defence kamikaze.
Safe to say that yesterday is another country because it sure the same place that won WWII any more.

More banalities, this time from Jake. Look, Jake. The law (UCMJ, military law) has certain procedures. Non-military law has its own. We, as citizens, do not need to follow either of these sets of procedures before we opine that he’s a murderer.

Now, there are times when we really don’t know many of the facts of the case. Then, sensible people hold off. But we certainly know plenty of the facts in this case, and only morons pretend we must wait for legalisms.

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