00:50:22asciilifeform:'The hole let unprivileged user-mode program to switch into kernel mode. But more spectacularly, the hole was tightly coupled into unique architectural design of VMS, and in its sly and teasing way...'

02:32:43asciilifeform:'The key logger the attackers used also has Korean characters inside and appears to have ties to a coder in South Korea.' << lol, let's believe every byte of ascii text in the turd, aha

02:33:12cazalla:mircea_popescu, i dunno, he's in BA, perhaps you can do an interview with the foundation's latest hire

02:33:27asciilifeform:'?You have to be very skilled in kernel-level development and this is already quite a rare skillset,? says Vitaly Kamluk, principal security researcher at Kaspersky Lab.' << idiots

02:33:44asciilifeform:'There?s no logical reason to use a kernel-level keylogger says Raiu since it?s so easy to write key loggers that hook the Windows API using about four lines of code. ?But these guys prefer to do a kernel-level keylogger, which is about 300 kilobytes in size?the driver for the key logger?which is pretty crazy and very unusual.' << imbeciles

02:35:12asciilifeform:'When victims attempt to connect to the WiFi network, they get a pop-up alert telling them their Adobe Flash player needs an update and offering them a file, digitally signed to make it look authentic, to download. If the victims accept they download, they get a Trojan delivered instead.' << run more winblows, 'high-profile executives,..., government agencies and NGOs and U.S. executives.'

02:44:48undata:"One of the consequences of these graph is that if the real name of the sender of a single transaction belonging to the entity is identified, then Satoshi mystery identity will be revealed. I bet that this will happen in the days following this post." < hilarious

02:45:04undata:now that I've made these graphs, clearly the hard work is done

02:59:56asciilifeform:'...empathy is a core engineering value?and that an engineer that has so little empathy as to not understand why the use of gendered pronouns is a concern almost certainly makes poor technical decisions as well.' << aryan physics is best physics!

03:00:43decimation:asciilifeform: whoever the 'jews' are today, they better consider their parachutes now

03:02:26mircea_popescu:dude empathy is exactly anti-engineering. it is emphatically NOT an engineering value

03:02:32mircea_popescu:who the shit writes this idiocy. i want a name.

04:38:10decimation:although like BSD, "solaris" is more of a spiritual matter now than a matter of a particular codebase

04:40:50asciilifeform:'On August 16, 2012, individuals who had provided start-up and development funding to Joyent (and its predecessor, TextDrive) in exchange for lifetime shared hosting accounts with Joyent were informed, via email, that their lifetime hosting accounts would be deleted on October 31, 2012' << lol! (pediwikia)

04:42:41gernika:The post on bitcoin in Argentina reminds me of Bitcoin in berlin. There was supposed to be some thriving bitcoin scene in Kreuzberg. In fact when I went to visit there was a single crappy cafe with a cheap Bitcoin sign hanging in the window.

04:43:21undata:it turns out all these citizen journalists are full of shit

04:43:32gernika:The post on bitcoin in Argentina reminds me of Bitcoin in berlin. There was supposed to be some thriving bitcoin scene in Kreuzberg. In fact when I went to visit there was a single crappy cafe with a cheap Bitcoin sign hanging in the window.

04:44:56asciilifeform:'In January, 2012, Joyent secured a new round of funding totalling $85 million from Weather Investment II, Accelero Capital, and Telef?nica Digital. In October 2014, Joyent raised an additional $15 million in Series D funding from existing investors.' << and immediately after, 'fuck you' to the 'crowdfunders.'

04:45:15asciilifeform:not because they were broke, but because... they could ?

04:45:21decimation:hehe yep. the names have been entered in the journal

04:55:46decimation:'actual problems' being things that are critical to eat, not be blown up, etc?

04:56:06asciilifeform:reading for the first time about 'joyent', i couldn't help but wonder - what are these 'technologies' actually for? if they were erased from the good earth overnight, would i notice ?

04:56:33decimation:somehow I guess there is a market for selling vms to folks

04:56:37asciilifeform:where were they in 1970 and who was the poorer for it ?

04:59:03asciilifeform:mircea_popescu had something written re: imbeciles thinking of 'meta' elevation as a kind of philosopher's stone

04:59:42asciilifeform:i.e., that if we somehow do 'cloud' correctly, no one actually has to think about cpu and disk, these can live in some 'meta' heavens

05:01:41asciilifeform:these folks will eventually build arse-mouth systems and try to eat their own shit.

05:01:51asciilifeform:it is the logical conclusion of their thought process.

05:02:39asciilifeform:'We laugh at that fable about the village of simpletons who, when their bed blankets became too short for their growing kids, extended these blankets by cutting off a piece from one end and sewing it to the other. Or the more modern tale of a drunkard who could afford to drink every day because he always took his empty bottles back for a deposit. And yet many otherwise intelligent people believe, apparently not stopping even f

05:02:39asciilifeform:or one minute to think whether what they say makes any sense, that Henry Ford, the American entrepreneur whose worldview wouldn't probably stand much scrutiny from the modern perspective, gained his place in the canon of progressive feelgood policies for paying his workers the back then unheard-of high daily salary of $5, which made them wealthy enough to buy Ford automobiles, which in turn made the Ford company profitable.' (

05:40:58mircea_popescu:asciilifeform> reading for the first time about 'joyent', i couldn't help but wonder - what are these 'technologies' actually for? if they were erased from the good earth overnight, would i notice ? <<< if node.js were erased you would notice.

05:41:10mircea_popescu:just like if fat women were erased from the world you'd notice.

05:42:59mircea_popescu:<asciilifeform> ilkka kokkarinen) << there is some merit to the ford story, but specifically, that he majorily cut down on staff turnover by "overpaying". except all the other idiots were not accounting for training costs (in the form of, not building anything too complex)

05:43:09mircea_popescu:so it gave him an unassailable advantage for just long enough.

05:43:48mircea_popescu:undata sure, except for the obnoxious "prevailin business practices" bit.

05:46:29mircea_popescu:(speaking of which, the doner in germany surpasses the doner in turkey i hear)

05:48:35gernika:I agree - a german burrito seemed unappealing just as a concept, let alone as something concrete made out of that run down kitchen, but apparently at the time I thought that was my best option.

16:37:27mircea_popescu:Namworld: uh... Facebook ads system numbers are dodgy <<< welcome to the club ? fb is a scam. this has been said here i dunno how many times, but by pretty much everyone ever involved.

16:59:55punkman:Namworld: if enough volume, you gotta look at your logs and ask them to refund some of the scamclicks

17:00:39mircea_popescu:generally the business experience on the topic being that paying for someone to do the tech part and for someone to do the business part comes to 1-35% more than the value of the refunded clicks.

17:01:28Namworld:Funny enough, it's targeted at both men and women that talk/liked pages related to Bitcoin.

17:02:44mircea_popescu:<undata> several generations of Americans at least believe that this is precisely what success looks like: you buy and sell a few houses and your life is on autopilot from then on << in their defense, all generations since the industrial revolution chiefly believed that this is what success looks like : you do a few things and that's that.

17:03:12mircea_popescu:notably, athletes at the turn of the century (their dream briefly came through in the 60s, now it seems fucked again), and military men althrough the 1800s.

17:10:15gernika:mircea_popescu: "When given the choice between temporary centralization and guaranteeing the security of the protocol and therefore user funds, the choice is obvious. Once the new consensus algorithm is complete, it will be safe to run with more than one node again." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8709514

17:12:14mircea_popescu:gernika lulzy. i wonder if we see the same nonsense emerge in btc.

17:12:44mircea_popescu:of course, they manage to not even correctly state the choice.

17:13:45mircea_popescu:obviously if given the incorrectly statement "choice is obvious". a whole new mode of rational failure the us invented, "begging "the obvious" choice", similar to "begging the question"

17:14:27Namworld:It might be that facebook ad bots don't tend to have Bitcoin in their interest... at least yet. Hence why demographic looks accurate.

17:14:43mircea_popescu:but the actual choice is between "destroying the long term viability of the coin through introducing precedent - certain to be followed - of converting it overnight into a centrally owned resource" and "destroying the long term viability of the coin through introducing precedent of arbitrarily lost funds"

17:15:02mircea_popescu:neither of these being either obvious or desirable, and their conjunction being why the coin in question - stellar or whatever - is dead.

17:15:14mircea_popescu:Namworld how did you select that demo exactly ?

17:16:45gernika:punkman: polycentralized. Now it's just monodecentralized.

17:17:42asciilifeform:recall the 'software does not wear out' article.

17:18:25asciilifeform:if you can do the 'centralize' trick, it was always defective.

17:19:48punkman:asciilifeform: you could run your own private bitcoin, or private Tor network, or whatever

17:20:18asciilifeform:(not because there had to be a mechanical defense against it. no mechanical pill against 'buy all the coins and throw into the sea.' but attempting this gambit, given a properly-designed coin, should cost above $maxint.)

17:20:39Namworld:Just by selecting people that have "Bitcoin" in their interests.

17:23:27gernika:I was able to collect email addresses via a signup page running an FB campaign at one time. Don't recall the conversion percentage at the moment but at that time at least there were real people clicking.

18:10:31ben_vulpes:"To me, that insistence can only come from one place: that gender—specifically, masculinity—is inextricably linked to software" << or perhaps that that pronouns are gendered in better languages than engris but whatever

18:15:32ben_vulpes:undata: "street tax" << my parents have called portland a "benevolent communist state" for as long as i've lived here. it's only recently started to pass its inflection points letting the impoverished demand more and more.

18:15:48ben_vulpes:once upon a time it was the schools, and there were bonds, and the people paid, and nothing changed.

18:16:24ben_vulpes:now it's inanities like the street tax to pave the ghetto.

18:44:59Namworld:My darn cat just opens cupboard and so on and claws bag open to eat pastas and so on... I'll need big plastic container to store pasta and so on in accessible locations, and keep the rest in places he can't get in.

19:53:23mircea_popescu:the various defeated and meanwhile extinct tribes from the amazon valley to the pacific rim being the exact proof of this concept.

19:54:38mircea_popescu:<ben_vulpes> now it's inanities like the street tax to pave the ghetto. << srsly, paving the ghetto, for as long as it uses forced labour of the inhabitants and very rudimentary tools, and it's done in the middle of the summer, is a splendid idea.

21:33:46mircea_popescu:"He studied at Harvard until the First World War broke out in 1914. At that point, aged 23, he returned to Canada and joined the Canadian army in Halifax and was assigned to the Cyclist Corps of the Second Division, Canadian Expeditionary Force."

21:33:56mircea_popescu:im not even sure what's funnier, wikipedia or canada.

21:37:04cazalla:mircea_popescu, that is about as misleading a statement anyone could make lol

22:11:47decimation:"“Currently, approximately $1B in production spending can be expected to deliver $500M-$600M in profits,” the letter says. “Through his continued focus on financial discipline, Doug hopes to improve that ratio to a point where $800-$900M in production spending delivers $500-$600M in profits.”"

22:21:42ben_vulpes:the way i understand it is that company a owns the assets, b leases them which reduces its apparent income. lease payments come into a and are not categorized as passive investment income.

22:43:08mircea_popescu:they'll just end up exactly where they are now : five to the room, crowded in insalubrious conditions, spending their time voting on reddit

22:55:10mircea_popescu:decimation it's so amusingly pervasive this. so the cbc article you linked punching holes in the rich dad thing ?

22:55:12mircea_popescu:"Allan S. Roth is the founder of Wealth Logic, an hourly based financial planning and investment advisory firm that advises clients with portfolios ranging from $10,000 to over $50 million. "

22:55:28mircea_popescu:as tlp would say, "don't change the system, just shuffle among its offerings"