StirCrazy wrote:im using there terramax tires on my F350, so far they are outlasting my All terrain Ta's I had on there befor for about 1/3rd the price. I will definatly go with them again.

Steve

How good is their traction in mud and snow?

better than the all terrain ta's in my opinion. they are mountain snowflake rated and I travel one of the worst highways in BC for weather to go to work and back every day nd I didn't have an issue. my wheel spin light barely went off compared to the BFG's I have about 44000 miles on them now (BFG's only rated for 37000mi) and I still figure I would get another season at least (I drive about 28000mi a year) but I am also going to put my little commuting car back on the road to go to work and back so they might last a lot longer.

GeoBoy wrote:For me I have a real hard time purchasing Chinese manufactured products when there are great American products that employees American workers.

I totally agree with you on this issue. I try to buy American made whenever possible. It just seems so difficult to find American made in so many products, and it gets harder all the time. After I retired I was hired back by the city to work on a ARRA construction project. I saw first hand how jobs come back when we demand American made. The fact is we don't and won't.

GeoBoy wrote:For me I have a real hard time purchasing Chinese manufactured products when there are great American products that employees American workers.

I totally agree with you on this issue. I try to buy American made whenever possible. It just seems so difficult to find American made in so many products, and it gets harder all the time. After I retired I was hired back by the city to work on a ARRA construction project. I saw first hand how jobs come back when we demand American made. The fact is we don't and won't.

I have paid extra for American names before names before only to find out that the product wasn't made in America. Before the Timken plant here shut down they were actively pushing the limits on how little they could do in the U.S. and still slap the "Made in America" label on it. Of course, part of the reason for doing that was that some of their larger customers like John Deere were pushing them to outsource as much as possible to low cost countries. I have a friend with a Mahindra tractor that swears the only differences between it and a Deere are the paint and about $15,000.

I am actually OK with importing things so long as it is balanced. I would like to see importers have to declare their trade deficit and then have to pay a tariff on it. We could let companies that produce here and sell overseas sell trade credits, sort of like the carbon credits.

GeoBoy wrote:For me I have a real hard time purchasing Chinese manufactured products when there are great American products that employees American workers.

I totally agree with you on this issue. I try to buy American made whenever possible. It just seems so difficult to find American made in so many products, and it gets harder all the time. After I retired I was hired back by the city to work on a ARRA construction project. I saw first hand how jobs come back when we demand American made. The fact is we don't and won't.

I totally agree, BUT lets take the Goodyear G614's for an example , just about TWICE the cost of the Sailun S637's. Arguably the Sailun's are a better tire then the G614's . They certainly have a better track record then the Goodyears from the get go. If it makes sense to spend twice , then by all means do so, but its also my pocketbook here that suffers also . There is a sad truth to it all.

Same applies for the Sailun Terramax as far as cost, although they are not as well known as the S637's ,but have to believe the same quality.

If its any consolation, Sailun is apparently opening two plants here in the US. Whether the cost will remain the same is doubtful, just the cost of labor will dictate.