Only the new half wit AM in charge of UKIP might call for it ..? All the others are pro Weksh Government.

Do you think the welsh people are uniquely unable to make their own decisions ?

Shirley the decisions that effect wales, should be made in wales, and by elected welsh people. You know just like the rest of the world.

I completely agree with your last paragraph. Those decisions should be made here. So why do you contradict yourself by wanting to hand power to appointed, unelected, unaccountable mates of Theresa May in Brussels?

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.

I completely agree with your last paragraph. Those decisions should be made here. So why do you contradict yourself by wanting to hand power to appointed, unelected, unaccountable mates of Theresa May in Brussels?

You have the very same conflict of course. You support the English/british union, whilst opposing the democratically elected EU. Remember Wales never voted for the UK union, whereas Wales did vote for the EU.

Wales so poor under UK that EU structural funding of developments. London rule has failed Wales. Think radio active mud dumped in Cardiff Bay, super prisons in Wales, whilst no rail electrification and no tidal lagoon.

You have the very same conflict of course. You support the English/british union, whilst opposing the democratically elected EU. Remember Wales never voted for the UK union, whereas Wales did vote for the EU.

Wales so poor under UK that EU structural funding of developments. London rule has failed Wales. Think radio active mud dumped in Cardiff Bay, super prisons in Wales, whilst no rail electrification and no tidal lagoon.

Feck the Tory brexit.

When did Wales vote for the EU?

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.

Every one up until 2017 returned a majority of MPs and parties committed to the EU.

Parties opposed to the EU generally got no seats.

A significant number of Welsh MPs are still very much pro EU.

It's not that simple.

Wales also voted for parties that voted for the Iraq War and the trail of destruction and millions dead and displaced that followed but I doubt you'd find a single Welsh person who would support that.

General Elections are never fought on a single issue and a vote for that party is not a endorsement of everything they have done or will do next.

Wales voted for Labour in the 70's when they used to be fiercely eurosceptic.

Wales voted for Labour in the 90's and 2000's when they became passionate europhiles

Wales voted for Labour in 2017 when they committed to leaving the European Union in their manifesto and have a lifelong Eurosceptic leader who has campaigned and voted against every European treaty since 1983.

The findings of this study suggests Wales votes Labour regardless of their stance on Europe.

Wales has never voted for the EU.

Wales has however voted to leave the EU.

It could not be more simple.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.

Wales also voted for parties that voted for the Iraq War and the trail of destruction and millions dead and displaced that followed but I doubt you'd find a single Welsh person who would support that.

General Elections are never fought on a single issue and a vote for that party is not a endorsement of everything they have done or will do next.

Wales voted for Labour in the 70's when they used to be fiercely eurosceptic.

Wales voted for Labour in the 90's and 2000's when they became passionate europhiles

Wales voted for Labour in 2017 when they committed to leaving the European Union in their manifesto and have a lifelong Eurosceptic leader who has campaigned and voted against every European treaty since 1983.

The findings of this study suggests Wales votes Labour regardless of their stance on Europe.

Wales has never voted for the EU.

Wales has however voted to leave the EU.

It could not be more simple.

It is simple.

UK joined the EU in 1973 via a vote. Fact Wales has never ever joined the UK via a vote. Fact.

I take your point though. If the EU had invaded Wales,killed our leaders, built castles of oppression, and beat our children for speaking the own language in their local schools ....then it would be exactly the same.

UK joined the EU in 1973 via a vote. Fact Wales has never ever joined the UK via a vote. Fact.

I take your point though. If the EU had invaded Wales,killed our leaders, built castles of oppression, and beat our children for speaking the own language in their local schools ....then it would be exactly the same.

Feck the Tory Brexit.

There was no referendum in 1973 when the U.K. joined the EEC. There was one in 1975 about whether we should stay in or not.

UK joined the EU in 1973 via a vote. Fact Wales has never ever joined the UK via a vote. Fact.

I take your point though. If the EU had invaded Wales,killed our leaders, built castles of oppression, and beat our children for speaking the own language in their local schools ....then it would be exactly the same.

Feck the Tory Brexit.

The EU didn’t exist in the seventies fact. it was just a trading community with other rules about coal and atomic cooperation. Fact.

England never joined the U.K. via a vote either.. Fact.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.

You have the very same conflict of course. You support the English/british union, whilst opposing the democratically elected EU. Remember Wales never voted for the UK union, whereas Wales did vote for the EU.

Wales so poor under UK that EU structural funding of developments. London rule has failed Wales. Think radio active mud dumped in Cardiff Bay, super prisons in Wales, whilst no rail electrification and no tidal lagoon.

Feck the Tory brexit.

Mustn't forget of course the entirely unelected House of Lords.

Brexiters moan and groan about the EU not being democratic but I don't hear them calling for the abolition of that place.