listen. this is a fascinating discussion up to this point... but...this does not in anyway prove that psychedelia began with a couple/handful of pop songs from the later stages of beatlemania. or by any random collection of american and british folk, folk-rock and straightforward rock bands. don't get me wrong, i love those songs, no doubt, especially donovan, but pschedelia didn't begin there, it was part of something bigger, pop rock is what it is. just like the free speech movement didn't really begin at Peoples Park in Berkeley, though it is convenient to thinks so. just like the civil rights movement didn't begin with Martin Luther King and his 'I Have a Dream' speech, but i suppose it can be considered a turning point. if by pschedelia you mean acid rock, then you have alot of explaining to do about how that can only happen in a recording studio. that idea in itself seems a wee bit contrived and shall we a poor synthesis to me.

that's like saying a drum circle is not a drum circle unless you have someone on cowbell and everybody has to wear a green shirt. i hope you can see how contrived/unrealistic that is.

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About the origin of pychedelia, we could also name "The Word", because of the colorful lyrics, the repetitive guitar, crazy bass playing, the intrincate drumming and the hypnotic harmonium. But it would be a proto-psychedelic tune. But still the first nearly pure psychedelic songs I can think of are "Eight Miles High" and "Shapes Of Things".

again those might be fine examples of proto-acid rock and acid rock, but that has precisely nothing to do with the the civil rights and free speech movements that were also a prominent part of the the 1960's counterculture. again the framework was much larger, a good example of this, is dino valenti song get together, other bands were able to expand and improve upon his original song and the beautiful lyrics.

I see your point, and I understand that psychedelia was a process, not something that appeared with a couple of songs. My point was that those songs were the first ones that we could consider as pure psychedelia, despite this may be a subjective argument. And I'm just talking about music, by the way, I know that psychedelia as a movement was something beyond rock.

again the framework was much larger, a good example of this, is dino valenti song get together, other bands were able to expand and improve upon his original song and the beautiful lyrics.

It's hard to say if Chet Powers' original version of Let's Get Together was improved upon by other artists. That would be a matter of individual taste. But it certainly became one of the love and peace anthems of the 1960s.

It's hard to say if Chet Powers' original version of Let's Get Together was improved upon by other artists. That would be a matter of individual taste. But it certainly became one of the love and peace anthems of the 1960s.

well then i screwed up, i had no idea that was a Chet Powers song, i just noticed the worlds of difference between the youngbloods version and the dino valenti version of that song.

No, it's easy to mess up. Chester (Chet) William Powers, Jr. was known by his stage name Dino Valenti as a singer. He used the name Jesse Oris Farrow as a songwriter. When he joined Quicksilver Messenger Service, he used the name Dino Valente.

Dino Valenti is also said to be the author of the famous song "Hey Joe" (made by Hendrix, the Byrds, Love, the Leaves), but I've read that the actual songwriter was a guy named Billy Roberts (or was it another pseudonym of him?).

I like his song "Dino's Song", here played by Quicksilver Messenger Service in the Monterrey Pop Festival in 1967 (I think he wasn't a member of the band yet):

Dino Valenti is also said to be the author of the famous song "Hey Joe" (made by Hendrix, the Byrds, Love, the Leaves), but I've read that the actual songwriter was a guy named Billy Roberts (or was it another pseudonym of him?).

I like his song "Dino's Song", here played by Quicksilver Messenger Service in the Monterrey Pop Festival in 1967 (I think he wasn't a member of the band yet):

No, it's easy to mess up. Chester (Chet) William Powers, Jr. was known by his stage name Dino Valenti as a singer. He used the name Jesse Oris Farrow as a songwriter. When he joined Quicksilver Messenger Service, he used the name Dino Valenti.

you mean i had it right the first time. anyway his version has plenty of punch, but i am most familar with The Youngbloods version.

I remember hearing Let's Get Together for the first time as performed by Jefferson Airplane and soon after by The We Five in 1965. I heard The Youngbloods' version in 1967 but it really became popular in 1969 when it was used in a TV commercial for the National Conference of Christians and Jews. I heard the original version by Chet Powers a year or two before.

It took its rightful place as an anthem of the 1960s along with Blowin' In The Wind, The Times They Are a-Changin', Where Have All The Flowers Gone, I Ain't Marching Anymore, I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-To-Die Rag, Turn! Turn! Turn! and others.

^^^So you actually made it there! I've always wanted to know someone who was there.

Oh, I see what happened now. LOL Sounds like you had a good time anyway. I just remembered that my boss was there. I was pretty surprised when I found that out second hand, at the time of the 40th anniversary. People were snickering about it behind his back but I had to ask him about it. I think he was just as surprised that I was interested.He had a long walk to get there too but he didn't get distracted.