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The wages of the CEO, the salaries of sports heroes, executive salaries have gone up. Salaries for the middle class, not so much.

They have, actually. Not as dramatically as their standard of living, but they have gone up.

And again, it's worth noting that that larger amount of money is supporting smaller households - so the "per capita" income of the middle class has grown by more than what is demonstrated. Even had average real incomes remained the exact same, that phenomena would still mean that the middle class was earning more money.

They have, actually. Not as dramatically as their standard of living, but they have gone up.

And again, it's worth noting that that larger amount of money is supporting smaller households - so the "per capita" income of the middle class has grown by more than what is demonstrated. Even had average real incomes remained the exact same, that phenomena would still mean that the middle class was earning more money.

The government's figures do look pretty good, but they don't jibe with what I remember having earned and my friends having earned as compared to the cost of living.

I wonder just how they calculated those inflation figures.

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They have, actually. Not as dramatically as their standard of living, but they have gone up.

And again, it's worth noting that that larger amount of money is supporting smaller households - so the "per capita" income of the middle class has grown by more than what is demonstrated. Even had average real incomes remained the exact same, that phenomena would still mean that the middle class was earning more money.

Sure, they trended up for a while. But from your chart, looks to me that they have been trending down for the past 14 or 15 year.

If I was to take that middle quintile and continue the trend line for the next 15 years, we will be right back where your chart starts around 1967 or so.

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Originally Posted by Papa bull

I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.