DAVID TAYLOR (St Helens)

I have largely been avoiding anything football related the last few days whilst the dust settled on yet another embarrassing display in the Derby. It was a shambles. Only one or two players came out of it being able to say they performed anything more than a 5 out of 10.

We have been so consistent during 2017 but yet again we fail to turn up at their place; those half and half scarves will have been flying off the shelves.

Typically we then perform with much more composure and doggedness at Old Trafford but losing those two points at the death was galling, if not painfully predictable.

During the game Lukaku’s infamous reaction to criticism from Williams didn’t look great and I have seen him do similar to Coleman and Lennon in the past – hopefully it isn’t indicative of some cracks in team morale.

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I am already looking to the summer and next season despite a lot of football between now and then to be played; I am sure transfers are lined up both in and out which will make our team stronger.

I hope those that want to leave go early and those that want to join replace them just as quickly. Regardless of the last week on the pitch I am optimistic for next season and I get a good vibe that we are going to be a much improved club on and off the pitch in the not too distant future.

Some things I want to see in the next week: blue paint being delivered to the Liver Building, Lookman to get a run out, a miracle cure for broken legs, Dan Meis to have a few too many and leak some Bramley Moore designs.

PAUL McALLISTER (Fazakerley)

The loss to Liverpool and the draw to United which felt like a loss have been very bitter pills to swallow. Bad luck had absolutely nothing to do with either result, it was simply not good enough from the players and the manager in both games.

Neither of the two teams we’ve played in the past week and taken only a point from are anything great. Yet no one is angry we didn't kill them off when we had so many chances too or, in the case of the derby, not even managing to be competitive. Yes there was the usual frustrated grumbles but not the type of real anger a true winning club displays when they don't win.

Would Barcelona, the true definition of winners, be ruing their luck instead of demanding more?

Rafinha of FC Barcelona celebrates a goal

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Would our neighbours across the park ever settle for spirited failure? Absolutely not, because those clubs have success ingrained into them and their supporters. The mentality at our club has to change if we’re ever to make it Europe’s elite table or end our trophy drought.

There’s a reason we never win any big away games, because no one expects too deep down and no one is really hurt when we don't.

People have grown used to falling short and that is very sad for club like us.

My attitude as a supporter is that I demand my team win and I will never shrug my shoulders when they don't. Neither should any other Evertonian because we are not minnows just happy to be in this league, we are a true giant of English football. It’s about time everyone starting thinking that way if we ever want to taste success again.

This season is still on course to be end up finishing as a net positive but the main part of the rebuilding of Everton hasn’t started yet. That begins in the summer when many of the relics of the past must be cast away both on and off the pitch to be replaced by bonafide winners.

GEORGE GIBSON (Northwich)

The derby saw us perform exactly the same as we have in every Anfield derby since 1999. Yet again we failed to show up and even have a go at Liverpool. The players were awful but the manager has to take some responsibility for selecting youngsters and getting his tactics wrong.

The performance at Manchester United was fantastic, we defended solidly, controlled the game for large parts, and always looked a threat. Poor interplay between Ross Barkley and Romelu Lukaku meant that we were unable to beat a United side there for the taking.

Liverpool defender Dejan Lovren (R) vies with Romelu Lukaku

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The manager again needs to take some blame for us not holding on however. The strange substitution that saw Mirallas replaced with Pennington changing things to three at the back just invited pressure and we sat deeper and deeper. A positive however was the performance of Phil Jagielka and up until the 94th minute, Ashley Williams, who finally looked like the pairing we hoped for in the summer.

TERRY McALLISTER (Aintree)

What should Evertonians make of the last two results after a fantastic 2017 thus far? Many saw those matches as the acid test for Everton's current level and that they were. Make no mistake, the games at Anfield and Old Trafford were a crossroads in our season and Everton choked.

This is the greatest challenge that everyone at the club faces if they want to take serious steps towards dispelling the curse of being perennial nearly-men. To stop being a club that takes you so far only to let you down when it really counts.

Manchester United's Zlatan Ibrahimovic contests a header with Joel Robles at Old Trafford

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I was disappointed to see the positive reaction from supporters in the aftermath of turning a win into a draw on Tuesday night. You'd be forgiven for thinking the manager was determined to give away the result based on the awful substitutions that he made.

This wasn't the Manchester United of 1999 or 2007. They're the team closest to us and certainly no better than us. Yet we acted as though we'd just come away from the Nou Camp with a draw and an away goal.

One thing that did lift the gloom this week however was the news that Farhad Moshiri is the new owner of the iconic Liver Building. It's unclear at this stage just what that means in relation to Everton but completely relocating the senior club in the city to the banks of the Mersey? It's a nice thought.