Saturday, April 22, 2017

Deadly Radhanath Disease / BVKS / Bhakti Ballabha Tirtha etc.

By Hanuman dasDeadly disease

Deadly disease was spreading in ISKCON for years in form of Radhanath baba’s mayavadi philosophy. The idea is that by being philosophically deviated, associating with Mayavadis and sahajiyas and considering them friends, and generally being “smarter” than Prabhupada, you will attract a lot of followers and bring them to Srila Prabhupada lotus feet. In theory, this sounds nice, but it will never work.Exactly the opposite is happening, as you will see from this article, as Radhanath’s clone army is growing, it is no longer possible to preach Srila Prabhupada’s original philosophy. You could see in last few days, I published articles where Radhanath baba’s own disciples, namely Jvalamukhi and Radha Madhava are rejecting him because of his cover ups and desire to change Prabhupada's teachings.But today, I am going to publish something much worse. I will show you how disciples of other gurus are rejecting their own gurus, because their own gurus are covering up for Radhanatha baba. The war is on.This movie is not 100% about Radhanath baba, but it has a lot of his philosophy and his book is directly mentioned on couple of occasions. Keep in mind that one of main leaders in Russia, Bhakti Vijnana Goswami, is also follower of Radhanath baba. So, all the weirdness that is happening there is partially Radhanath baba’s responsibility.[PADA: Not really, the whole GBC is responsible for this mess, since they have known all along that the Kirtanananda / Radhanath empire are deviated from the early 1980s, when they were sued by the Syracuse FEDERAL court (and lost), they had their drug mules arrested, and they were creating a criminal enterprise at New Vrndavana that was eventually raided by Federal Marshals. There was also the deviation where devotees dressed in brown monk robes, and countless other bogus things were going on there, and the GBC knew about all this and more because they sometimes went there, had meetings there etc. After all this was made public, including the Sulochana murder and the Federal Raid, then the GBC made Radhanath, Devamrta, Kuladri,, Tapah Punjah and others -- their biggest leaders. And then later other big GBC folks buried the carcass of Kirtanananda in Vrndavana, along with Radhanath. The entire GBC are the people who have been enabling, empowering and foisting Radhanath and his henchmen upon the society, for decades. Of course, apart from Radhanath other "reformers" like Trivrikrama, Indradyumna, Sacinandan, Prithu, Jayadvaita, Ravindra swarupa, Bhakti Vikas swami and many others were also "voted in" as acharyas alongside with the deviant ex-New Vrndavana group. So they are all co-conspirators or co-acharyas with Radhanath, and they are thus in the same voted in GBC guru party.]In this movie, Krishna Nama das, is talking with his own guru, Indradyumna Swami, about all the weird preaching going on in Russia, and how authorities are oppressing him because he wants to preach Prabhupada’s original message. And he is especially mentioning 3 major issues propapaged by Radhanath baba: Mother Theresa's saintliness, Neem Karoli baba's divinity and mayavadi Krishna das.It’s a very long video, so, I have broken it up to pieces so you can rewind to the part that which you want to listen.Initial exposee by Mathura Nama das1:20 Indirect preaching nonsense1:55 Torsonov nonsense.2:10 - Definition of indirect preaching2:50 - We should not preach as Prabhupada preached3:16 - Everyone will go away if we preach like Prabhupada,MY COMMENT: This idea that if we preach like Prabhupada, everybody will leave, that is essential though behind everything that Radhanath baba is doing. Well, let me tell ya one thing, some of us will leave if we start preaching like Radhanath baba.3:42 - They asked Bhakti Vikasa Swami the same question4:48 - Bhakti Vikasa Swami’s reply to this question.[PADA: Right, Bhakti Vikas Swami was "voted in" simultaneously when the GBC recoronated Bhavananda as their acharya, which means in 1986 the GBC re-certified that sex with Taxi drivers if the qualification of an acharya. So Bhakti Vikas swami (BVKS) is an official "sex with Taxi drivers certified acharya" himself. BVKS says he is a diksha guru, because he is part of the sex with Taxi driver's guru parampara? BVKS has never explained, why is he a card carrying member of the illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara? And why does BVKS keep saying that worship of his illicit sex guru sampradaya is in "the tradition"? Is there any religion on earth that has "the tradition" of worship of illicit sex as their acharyas and messiahs? OK, BVKS has no discrimination, that ISKCON should not promote the worship of sex with Taxi drivers as its acharyas, rather he has promoted that deviation himself all along by being voted in ALONG with it. Did we forget to mention that the 1986 BVKS "guru reform" program excommunicated Sulochana, which lead to his murder, because Sulochana said there was rampant crimes going on here. So the GBC / Radhanath / BVKS program had to remove and discredit him, as the GBC and BVKS did? And by their demonizing Sulochana, they got him killed.]

[PADA: Of course they are also killing the books, the GBC / Radhanath / BVKS program always glorifies the books changers. And now the GBC / Radhanath / BVKS folks are holding our books hostage with a lawsuit in India. We are not allowed to get our books ...!]

5:37 - Indirect preaching means devotees dressed like karmis6:14 - Indirect preaching - No preaching about Krishna or surrender to Krishna7:20 - Nationalism = Materialism11:28 - Restriction placed on teacher not to argue with devotees, because he didn’t accept mother Theresa is saintly.[PADA: Right, mother Theresa is a saint, while the Prabhupada devotees are not. And that is why Radhanath and his GBC program is spending $20,000,000 suing the Prabhupada devotees to drive them out of Prabhupada's temples.]

12:43 - In the book Journey Home, mayavadis are glorified: Neem Karoli baba, Dalai Lama.13:57 - Devotees are not given chance to give counter arguments to indirect preaching.15:19 - Audarya Nama preaching not bonafide.16:58 - Cancer treatment by Audarya Nama.18:20 - Mathura Nama wanted open discussion, Mathura Nama was treated as rebel, REQUESTED TO STEP DOWN FROM BOARD AND LEAVE THE ASRAMA.Accused they wanted to usurp the power. They told situation to BVKS, he replied that we want develop traditionally, no indirect preaching, guru-sadhu-sastra, another BVKS disciple Jagadish das kicked out from Kazan temple, BVKS said that Jagadish acted properly.[PADA: BVKS has had us kicked out, and even murdered, by his ongoing support of the overall GBC. He has all along supported them and their idea that we need to worship these living deviants as acharyas. He says our Prabhupada pooja idea is bogus. And he is best pals with Jayapataka, where there are still problems in their schools because they never weeded out the deviants since 1977. Jayapataka was one of the people who said we need to keep the sex with Taxi driver acharya's program, and BVKS is his sannyasa disciple. BVKS is the car carrying disciple of the sex with Taxi driver acharyas program.]

BVKS: I love to promote the worship of sex with Taxi drivers acharyas (and kick out the worship of Srila Prabhupada)!

21:06 - Jagadish das, brahmacari, distributing Prabhupada’s books for 15 years, was giving lectures according to sastra, temple president, regional secretary, told him: “You should not speak like Prabhupada, otherwise we will kick you out”, and this is what happened.22:01 - We are exactly same position, declared banned out of ISKCON structure, can’t get books for distribution. Although they need Srila Prabhupada’s books to distribution.MY COMMENT: This is how crazy ISKCON is today: Only way to get Prabhupada’s books and to distribute them, is to agree not to preach like Prabhupada. What a schizophrenic society did Radhanath baba create.[PADA: No, whole GBC and their bucket boys like BVKS created this regime.]

Reply by Indradyumna SwamiMY COMMENT: This is most funny reply in the history of ISKCON. Instead of blasting nonsense, and there was ton of nonsense mentioned: Mother Theresa, Neem Karoli baba, you name it, Indradyumna Swami is silent about all the nonsense, but he says “I am traditionalist”. That is a new kind of traditionalist, who is not able to say one word against Radhanath baba nonsense preaching.23:19 - Why not both?MY COMMENT: Why not both, why not preach from Prabhupada’s books, and in the same time preach that Neem Karoli is saint, and that mother Theresa, cow meat distributor is also saintly. Ahm, I don’t think that will work.[PADA: Right, this came up before, that Radhanath is saying that a meat eater is a saint and we should not be doing that, but the GBC failed to check his program. And people like BVKS were voted in as gurus simultaneously to Radhanath being voted in, they have the same guru beeja.]24:20 - I am traditionalist, I am old school.MY COMMENT: LOL24:41 - People complain that I speak too directly.MY COMMENT: LOL25:45 - Festival of India27:00 - Dressed as devotees27:56 - There is room for another approach29:00 - Airport karmi dress, distribute yoga, meditation32:00 - Many people joined over psychology.MY COMMENT: I met some Russian people, who were kicked out from ISKCON, such as Mathura Nama, for not accepting psychology nonsense.33:55 - Prasadam, secret weapon.[PADA: What is prasadam? Hanuman himself never explain this point either? You have to offer bhogha to the pure devotee, or its not prasadam. He never explains if he accepts this system or what?]

34:15 - PERSONALLY, I AM VERY TRADITIONAL.35:00 - We preach WITHOUT COMPROMISING MESSAGEMY COMMENT: Here, Indradyumna Swami is getting schizophrenic, message of Prabhupada is compromised by Radhanath baba long time ago. Otherwise, why Mathura Nama is complaining??? Why Mathura Nama is being kicked from his temple if message is not compromised? All he wants to do is to preach what Prabhupada preached. But he is not allowed to do that in Prabhupada’s own movement.35:45 - Caitanya Mahaprabhu is innovative because of singing and dancing instead of lecturing in the temple36:59 - PEOPLE DON’T LIKE CHANGE, CHANGE WITHOUT COMPROMISING THE MESSAGE,MY COMMENT: So, when Radhanath baba, who is supposed to be sannyasi, engages in eye camps, and Prabhupada said: “In Bhagavad-gita there is no such statement that you take care of the eyes of the people. There is no such statement. That is your manufactured idea.” (Room Conversation – January 8, 1977, Bombay) Is that a compromised message or not?37:45 - Change - Bhaktivinoda introduced nama-hatta37:53 - Bhakti siddhanta innovator who shocked38:15 - I am suprised Bhakti Vikasa Swami is speaking so strongly against innovative preaching BECAUSE HE WROTE A BOOK ABOUT BHAKTI SIDDHANTA.38:25 - Bhaktisiddhanta radical innovative preaching, that was him.39:04 - I read book 3 times, I LOVE THAT BOOK.MY COMMENT: Imagine this, Indradyumna Swami is defending Radhanath nonsense and all other nonsense by using Bhakti-siddhanta Sarasvati as an example, amazing stuff. So, when Radhanath Swami writes in his book Journey Home, that Neem Karoli baba is saintly, that Ramesh baba is his lifelong friend, that is same innovative preaching as Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati was going. Well, dear Indradyumna Swami, since you claim that you read Bhaktisiddhanta Vaibhava three times, you surely know that Bhaktisiddhantha Sarasvati was greatest enemy of sahajiyas and mayavadis. Comparing Bhaktisiddhanta with Radhanath is really beyond level of good taste, and constitutes offence towards Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati.[PADA: Yep, just see how foolish the GBC and their gurus are, they think that Radhanath, BVKS and others are acharyas, because they are certified as acharyas simultaneously when sex with Taxi drivers is certified as acharyas and all the above is "the tradition." That is what BVKS keeps saying, we have to worship his sex with Taxi driver guru certificate or "we are not in the tradition." The tradition is -- sex with Taxi drivers?]39:15 - That’s where I get idea that you can be non traditional and get away with it.39:43 - kurta coat, motors, festivals that people didn’t know they are coming to Krishna consciousness at all.41:10 - Festivals Bhakti siddhanta, material and spiritual, jiu jitsu, circus, film shows, athletics, spiritual inner circle. Detailed explanation.MY COMMENT: Sri Bhaktisiddhanta Vaibhava states that there were many mundane attractions at the Mayapura Pradarsani, for attracting non-devotees. But in his writing and speaking Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati was always straightforward, unlike deliberately vague, verging on Mayavadi, Radhanath baba.47:20 - Kali progresses, vaisnavas must be innovative48:00 - Tax your brains how to spread this movement.MY COMMENT: Please, dear Indradyumna Swami, tell Radhanath baba to turn off his brain, if he starts taxing his brain how to spread this movement, some of us find it hard to survive that nonsense.48:20 - Fine line48:45 - I DISAGREE THAT RADHANATH MAHARAJ IS LIKE THAT.MY COMMENT: Well, dear Indradyumna Swami, you can agree that Radhanath Swami didn’t cross the line, we are very happy that you finally aligned yourself as supporter of Radhanath Swami, you just lost a disciple for saying that, and I am sure you’ll lose many more.50:00 - Bhakti for the Divine.51:00 - They like him because he is not pushy,51:44 - Maharaj makes more devotees than me.MY COMMENT: Yea? Devotees of who? Idea is to be devoted to Prabhupada. Radhanath baba makes devotees who are devoted to hospitals, mayavadis and eye camps. And all those people are not really interesting in Prabhupada, finding him politically incorrect and old fashioned. Therefore, having failed to become fascinated by Srila Prabhupada, they are lingering on the sahajiya level of consciousness, often insulting to Prabhupada, and persecuting his real followers, their future is very dark.52:02 - Politicians take initiation, I can’t do that.52:10 - My most indirect preaching, is I wear jacket which says Russia.54:45 - I agree with Bhakti Vikasa Swami, too much compromise is not good.MY COMMENT: Yes, Indradyumna Swami maharaja, we agree at least once in this video.55:25 - We must be very strict, but that will not attract people ??? Purity is the force.57:00 - It’s not sinful Maya.MY COMMENT: How about Ramesh baba disco dance? Is that sinful? Should we consider people like Ramesh baba to be our lifelong friends?57:45 - Rock music59:45 - I never go to rock concert and don’t allow devotees.1:00:00 - Poison get washed away1:01:30 - Crap rock music1:02:30 - Given women gayatri mantra1:03:20 - Room for both1:03:40 - There is place for Sacinandana Swami and Radhanath Swami.MY COMMENT: Yes, this is what I wanted to her, finally somebody made a place for sannyasis with girlfriends.1:04:18 - Judge by result1:05:00 - Both parties should preach, not fight, side by sideMY COMMENT: Seriously, you are telling this to your disciple who is getting kicked from temple because he wants to preach what Prabhupada preached? THIS IS EPICReply by Mathura nama das:1:06:30 - Devotees are influenced by mayavada sahajiya, leader of bhakti sanga claims mother Theresa is saintly. Krishna das is mayavadi.Reply by Indradyumna Swami:1:07:25 - Whenever you go to preach, there is always a chance for contamination.1:10:00 - Strong sadhana, will not be attracted. We should preach to mayavadis, Krishna das should also get the mercy.MY COMMENT: Dear Indradyumna Swami, preaching to Krishna das is one thing, ISKCON people organising tours for him and allowing him to contaminate devotees by his singing is another thing. Preaching to sahajiyas is one thing, And [claiming that they are out lifelong friends] is another thing.1:11:00 - Prabhupada was associating with mayavadi dr Misra, and cured him from disease. Prabhupada many devotees by singing, not by preaching.MY COMMENT: Prabhupada never converted mayavadi dr Misra to vaisnavism1:12:00 - When associating with mayavadis, we speak their language a little bit.MY COMMENT: Interesting, but Prabhupada never “spoke mayavadi language” a little bit. And Radhanath baba is speaking mayvadi language a lot, not little.1:13:00 - Times have changed.MY COMMENT: Yes, times have changed, Prabhupada’s followers were tolerating Radhanath baba for some years, and now we go to war[PADA: Well the GBC is not merely tolerating, they are supporting and they also support his $20,000,000 lawsuit.]

Reply by Mathura nama das:1:14:00 - How to develop simultaneously?MY COMMENT: This is too painful to watch, disciple is pleading to be allowed to preach what Prabhupada preached.Reply by Indradyumna Swami:1:14:59 - Loyal independent, loyal to ISKCON but have my independent program. Generally, I don’t criticize , not publicly.MY COMMENT: You are not loyal independent, you are loyal to Radhanath baba and agree with him 100%, you didn’t say one word against his deviations. And you are having no problems to disagree with Bhakti Vikasa Swami. There is no such thing as loyal independent.[PADA: Right, when the deviation of sex with Taxi drivers was being discussed, people like BVKS said he needed to get voted into that sampradaya, and he is. None of them are independent of that deviation because they all went along with it, and they still support pillar members of that group like JPS. Indradyumna is BVKS fellow member because he too was voted into the sex with Taxi driver sampradaya.] 1:15:30 - If they want to become siksa disciples of Bhakti Vikasa Swami, that’s ok.MY COMMENT: Damn right is ok, having Radhanath babas supporter as guru sucks big time, this video is proof of that.[PADA: Why is taking shiksha from the sex with Taxi dirver's sampradaya ok?] 1:15:50 - Other persons are not doing anything devious, we should recognize the validity of it.MY COMMENT: Here you have it, preaching about Neem Karoli baba is not deviation, mother Theresa is who was feeding people with meat is actually divine, organizing concerts with mayavadi Krishna das also not deviation, speaking mayavadi language “a little bit” is also not deviant. And where is the line? Line is when you start opening brothels and selling drugs I guess. Everything before that is ok, as long as you are making devotees (since when Radhanath closed who don’t like Prabhupada are called devotees?)1:16:51 - You can’t criticise their preaching because that is exactly what Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati was doing.MY COMMENT: Epic, Radhanath baba is new Bhaktisiddanta Sarasvati. EPIC, THIS IS WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR FROM INDRADYUMNA SWAMI. NOW EVERYTHING IS CLEAR.1:18:00 - All our acaryas, including Caitanya Mahaprabhu, preached indirectly.MY COMMENT: LOL, no comment needed. At this point, I reached my limit. There is only certain amount of nonsense I can digest, you can watch the rest of video. there are around 50 minutes more.The aftermathAs a result of this video, Mathura Nama das no longer considers himself disciple of Indradyumna Swami, doesn’t recite his pranama mantra, and he took shelter of real ISKCON guru. [PADA: Mathura Nama took shelter of the sex with Taxi driver's acharya's sampradaya? Why is that better? Better than what? It might be better to worship mother Teresa and Jesus -- than BVKS and his sex with Taxi drivers acharyas?] Basic function of real ISKCON guru is to explain difference between illusion and reality for the benefit of all. Indradyumna Swami obviously didn’t do this in this video, rather he sided with traitor of Prabhupada, Radhanath baba, who is promoting Ramesh baba, doing eye camps, opening hospitals, and preaching nonsense philosophy which is nowhere to be found in Prabhupada’s books.Do you want to live in Radhanath’s new nonsense ISKCON where you are not allowed to repeat Prabhupada’s words? If you do, then stay silent, don’t complain and let Radhanath’s clone army conquer everything.

[PADA: Radhanath's program has gone on forever and no one really complained much about it for years, now that its deviations are emerging more clearly, the GBC is in a pickle because they promoted him so widely, how to retract that now without looking even more foolish than they already look?Incidently, the GBC's and Jayapataka's Mayapura project, their world head quarters no less, is hosting the departure of a disciple of Madhava Maharaja, the person who insulted Prabhupada (I was there) and this is the BVKS sannyasa guru program? Why is the GBC promoting Bhakti Ballabha Tirtha, a disciple of Madhava Maharaja, one of the founder fathers of the 1936 bi-sexual acharya's program and one of the worst insulters to Prabhupada? After Madhava left, Srila Prabhupada said we have to post a guard at my door because these God brothers might try to harm OR KILL ME. And these are the same people whose sampradaya we worship now? Of course Paramadvaiti swami from the Gaudiya Matha is also a fan of the Bhakti Ballabha Tirtha program, they are all united on these issues with the GBC. And why is BVKS saying these Mayapura deviants are his sannyasa gurus? And why do these guys always end up glorifying the founders of bi-sexual acharyas, sex with Taxi drivers, Prabhupada insulting acharyas, and in sum, what Jayadvaita swami says is "illicit sex with men, women and children" acharyas? And why does BVKS say that his illicit sex acharya's program is "the tradition"? YS PD]http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2017/04/jehovahs-witness-group-banned-in-russia.htmlBhakti Vikas swami demonizes Prabhupada worship as "shameless deviation" is this because, he wants to get more of us killed? http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2013/01/is-bhakti-vikas-mj-inciting-more.html