Mahoney, I said "serious flight simulator." A simulator where the controls consist of stick, rudder, throttle, guns, and bombs is not a serious flight simulator; it's an arcade game. As Chivas indicated, a serious simulator would have to be "dumbed down" to accomodate the pitiful console controllers, which would make the simulator no longer a serious simulator. That is why I made that flat statement about it being impossible for a serious simulator to succeed on a console.

You have failed to indicate what would need to be removed for a WWI simulator.

I agree there's no way you could have a modern jet sim on a console. You probably couldn't manage a WWII sim. But a WWI sim? Seriously, what would have to be dumbed down?