Nandrolone should not bother you. Or try test prop. if you can't handle it, at least it will be out of your system quicker than a cyp ester.

Have you ever used 1-Test and 4-AD together? A transdermal cycle for 2 weeks followed by Nolva for PCT, never agravated my anxiety, it just made me feel really depressed while on, but post cycle with the nolva, I felt fine.

I must be weird, but I started HRT a year ago and since then I have been able to drop the zoloft altogether. I haven't really noticed a problem during a cycle but last week I was on my last couple of days of PCT with Nova (from Lion) and had a pretty big panic attack. I'm with you bigmark, those thing can scare the **** out of you, I had one when I was 30 and went to the hosiptal, I didn't know if I was having a heart attack or was just losing my marbles or what.

08-31-2004, 11:04 PM

powerlifter6920

Originally Posted by Jeff

I must be weird, but I started HRT a year ago and since then I have been able to drop the zoloft altogether. I haven't really noticed a problem during a cycle but last week I was on my last couple of days of PCT with Nova (from Lion) and had a pretty big panic attack. I'm with you bigmark, those thing can scare the **** out of you, I had one when I was 30 and went to the hosiptal, I didn't know if I was having a heart attack or was just losing my marbles or what.

It's well known to cause anxiety. The exact mechanism is not known, but an educated guess would be that it messes up the balance of neurotransmitters in the brain. All hormones alter brain chemistry a little, just some are problematic and some are not.

Sounds like it varies per person (with exceptions of EQ and Tren), like most everything else. The last thing I want to do is trigger something making the anxiety worse, but I really need to take my training to the next level. At what expense though, right?

Would starting with a low dose of a short acting AAS be a good idea? That way I can somewhat "test the waters".

You might also consider some supps that can cause anxiety. Anything that raises Nitric Oxide OR GABA levels can cause panic attacks in some people. I think there must be several different types of anxiety with several different types of triggers. My wife has had panic attacks from taking;

I don't know what the mechanisms are or even what kind of anxiety she has but those are our experiences. She had an attack within an hour or two of taking each of these seperately so I'm pretty sure of the observations.

You might also consider some supps that can cause anxiety. Anything that raises Nitric Oxide OR GABA levels can cause panic attacks in some people. I think there must be several different types of anxiety with several different types of triggers. My wife has had panic attacks from taking;

I don't know what the mechanisms are or even what kind of anxiety she has but those are our experiences. She had an attack within an hour or two of taking each of these seperately so I'm pretty sure of the observations.

Yohimbine is the worst thing anyone suffering from anxiety/depression, can take because it lowers serotonin levels.

I am currently taking lexapro. Would it be a good or bad idea to still take that during a cycle?

One thing I have in my favor is planning on doing short cycles. No more than 4-5 weeks, and starting the dosages out lower than most people (I personally see no need to start with high dosages, but to each his own).

Its good to see this topic broached on a thread. As I said above .. having an RX for a benzodiazapene is a healthy thing when on this stuff just in case you get a panic attack. I have had a few and its terrifying.... but a few minutes later after 1mg of alprazolam and you'll find yourself generally calmed.....

They each have their pro's and con's but all risk addiction and so should be used conservatively.

Ativan & Versed--- very short acting-- very powerful.... not likely you'll find your physician writing for them for this purpose. The old induced death combo in the ICU when its time to go-- Ativan, Versed, Morphine the latter slowing the person down the former two making sure they have almost no idea or care what is going on while their functions slow.........

Alprazolam - Xanax-- about 12H 1/2 -- on the more addictive side... stronger than valium..

Valium -- 24H 1/2 -- a little weaker than alzprazolam

and the list goes on..... I certainly don't endorse the everyday use of benzos unless you cannot function otherwise and then I would probably me more likely to tell you to get off of the HRT or cycle.

on the lexapro comment--- If you were on it pre-cycle, I'd continue... I would not recommend going onto or off of an SSRI or tricyclic while on cycle as the tapering on and off can trigger physcotic, hyperdepressive, hypermanic, and other strong sides which can be exacerbated on the heavier T....

The anxiety started a couple months after my first and only ph cycle (It was a high dose of 1-t and 4ad transdermal). While I was on I was fine (except for occaisionally hot flashes). It seemed like my PCT wasn't long enough b/c I felt like my test levels were low (tired, ran down, down in the dumps). So if the anxiety started after my cycle b/c of an imbalance in my hormone levels, it makes me a little concerned about an actual PCT (clomid, nolva).

I can’t take any supp for any extended period of time with out feeling like ****. I have given up on all supp including hormones. Hormones seem to affect me the most and make me feel very anxious. I just eat food and forget the rest.

I can’t take any supp for any extended period of time with out feeling like ****. I have given up on all supp including hormones. Hormones seem to affect me the most and make me feel very anxious. I just eat food and forget the rest.

Test makes it easier for me to get angry, but I don't think it makes my anxiety any worse than it already is. I use alprazolam (generic xanax) or diazapam (valium) when things get too bad. Works great!