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Pretty good ratings for TFC this week. 157,000 viewers. Beat all the Premier League games this week. It was broadcast on Sportsnet Ontario , East, West and Pacific which meant there was a larger potential audience than the usual TSN2 or SN1.

TSN has been bad for TFC. Hopefully Sportsnet/Rogers put more TFC games on their main network because we all know that TSN is going to put TFC games on their new channels which a lot of us don't have right now ( TSN3/TSN4/TSN5) in the future instead of their main network.

EDIT: Don't TSN own national MLS TV rights in Canada? If so, then how in the world did Sportsnet manage put TFC game on their national channel (4 Sportsnet regional channels)?

TSN has been bad for TFC. Hopefully Sportsnet/Rogers put more TFC games on their main network because we all know that TSN is going to put TFC games on their new channels which a lot of us don't have right now ( TSN3/TSN4/TSN5) in the future instead of their main network.

EDIT: Don't TSN own national MLS TV rights in Canada? If so, then how in the world did Sportsnet manage put TFC game on their national channel (4 Sportsnet regional channels)?

i've made this point before a bunch of times on this thread, regional games are going coast to coast with no blackouts (especially with Vancouver regional games on TSN main network.
But since TSN isn't paying anything for the national rights (profit sharing deal with no profits given the ratings) it doesn't care.
Also the point has been made in the thread that the 3 teams want to grow the game in Canada.

Meh...when the owner of the Argos himself says in an interview that he is losing money, TV ratings mean shunt.

Who said anything about the Argos, the comment was that TFC ratings went up, and i would not say TV ratings mean nothing. The CFL went from 1.8 million per team to 4.6 million per team. MLS is always chasing the big TV contract and so they should, TV money is what makes major leagues, Major leagues. The NFL and MLB don't have to sell 1 ticket and they are already making money and turn a profit from their TV money. TFC owners said they will lose money this year too, so what. It's good to see TFC go from 22,000 (which ment NO ONE WATCHED THAT GAME) to 150,000 in just a few weeks

I did not really notice the bold or even think about it when I cut and pasted from Yahoo sports, however with that being said, I do see your point, that was my mistake, but again I did not think about it at the time, my bad, as my kid say

No MLS match made it to top 16 last weekend. With additional viewing choices becoming available in the fall with NHL & NFL, unless a Canadian team makes the playoffs, there is no hope for MLS matches cracking 100k mark.

i dont even know what sportsnet360 is? is that another channel? how is different than the other channels

Lets stop making excuses. Channel 53 The Score/Sportsnet360 is a CRTC-mandated channel in every cable package in the country free for over a decade.
MLSE has to do a better job marketing the team. F*cking Rogers (as co-owner) has to give a sh*t about this team ... which it obviously doesn't b/c it hardly promotes it.

Lets stop making excuses. Channel 53 The Score/Sportsnet360 is a CRTC-mandated channel in every cable package in the country free for over a decade.
MLSE has to do a better job marketing the team. F*cking Rogers (as co-owner) has to give a sh*t about this team ... which it obviously doesn't b/c it hardly promotes it.

I know i'm super into TFC.
But it blows my mind that 4 times the number of people prefer to watch Youth Athletics.
6 times watch UFC pre-lims.

A commentator brought this up.. sort of.. on the air the other day. Can't recall who it was but essentially the point was until fans can discuss players on the other teams with knowledge. We can name players in MLB outside of the Jays, in the NHL outside of the Leafs NBA NFL and even the CFL.

Many of us don't follow the MLS playoffs let alone have any real knowledge of the skills and abilities of the rosters we face. Some do but the vast majority don't. Until that happens with the majority of fans, it will always be seen as a fringe sport unfortunately.

22,000...scary.....does any one know if that is the lowest number we have seen thus far?

i'm even more concerned about the stadium expansion now. sure MLSE can probably sell those seats next year on the "newness", but year 2,3,4. Then there are empty seats. Then people won't by SSH anymore because the know they can buy single games seats. Its a viscous cycle.

F*ck .. i know its not my millions ... but i have sweat & tear equity in this club ... plus $1500 a season.

A commentator brought this up.. sort of.. on the air the other day. Can't recall who it was but essentially the point was until fans can discuss players on the other teams with knowledge. We can name players in MLB outside of the Jays, in the NHL outside of the Leafs… NBA… NFL and even the CFL.

Many of us don't follow the MLS playoffs let alone have any real knowledge of the skills and abilities of the rosters we face. Some do but the vast majority don't. Until that happens with the majority of fans, it will always be seen as a fringe sport unfortunately.

Just to add to your point, I think understanding the league rules is another aspect that's stunting interest. In those other leagues you get near complete transparency, MLS still doesn't look like a "real league" because of magic money and so call "budgets/cap"

Just to add to your point, I think understanding the league rules is another aspect that's stunting interest. In those other leagues you get near complete transparency, MLS still doesn't look like a "real league" because of magic money and so call "budgets/cap"

I'll be honest here, i love TFC but up to now their games have been hard to watch. That first year was different, I know novelty and all, but it was way more entertaining to watch. Even our Canadian rivals are more entertaining right now, I love watching Vancouver with Morales and and the exciting youth that they have on that team. Honestly, i think MLS has some quality, with the exception of say games involving chivas, Colorado, and Houston , there are good games to be watched regularly. I wish more people would tune in.TFC games have gotten better this year, but nowhere near what I expected.

i'm even more concerned about the stadium mexpansion now. sure MLSE can probably sell those seats next year on the "newness", but year 2,3,4. Then there are empty seats. Then people won't by SSH anymore because the know they can buy single games seats. Its a viscous cycle.

F*ck .. i know its not my millions ... but i have sweat & tear equity in this club ... plus $1500 a season.

I hear ya, unless things change, gonna be a tough sell.....i chuckle every time I see the 'waiting list' blurb on Sportsnet telecasts.

i'm even more concerned about the stadium expansion now. sure MLSE can probably sell those seats next year on the "newness", but year 2,3,4. Then there are empty seats. Then people won't by SSH anymore because the know they can buy single games seats. Its a viscous cycle.

F*ck .. i know its not my millions ... but i have sweat & tear equity in this club ... plus $1500 a season.

That was my economic calculation last year and my decision to opt out. Many people that asked if I still had seasons were shocked that I would give them up when they were "good." When we factored in the games we'd miss because of kids' sports and other commitments and the fact we couldn't sell off our seats… the decision not to renew was made easier.

We've thought about getting back in as we missed seeing the same people game in and game out and really thought about it when it looked like they had the balls to sell Defoe but in the spin that followed, I'm letting the economics do my thinking.

Just to add to your point, I think understanding the league rules is another aspect that's stunting interest. In those other leagues you get near complete transparency, MLS still doesn't look like a "real league" because of magic money and so call "budgets/cap"

Absolutely. I play golf with a casual MLS fan. Knows enough that he can name Defoe and Bradley and where TFC is in the standings but when we get talking about the inner workings of the league, he makes analogies to Professional Wrestling. I can't say that I can defend MLS' honour when that talk starts.

DOGS OF THE WEEK: Toronto FC continues to create more interest for its boardroom machinations than what takes place on the pitch. Saturday's game against Chicago drew an average of 14,000 viewers to Sportsnet 360. Regardless of the possible explanations, that's as close to being a non-entity as you get. Coming close to that kind of irrelevance was Canada's Davis Cup matches against Colombia. They could do no better than 35,000 on Sportsnet 360 on Sunday.

DOGS OF THE WEEK: Toronto FC continues to create more interest for its boardroom machinations than what takes place on the pitch. Saturday's game against Chicago drew an average of 14,000 viewers to Sportsnet 360. Regardless of the possible explanations, that's as close to being a non-entity as you get. Coming close to that kind of irrelevance was Canada's Davis Cup matches against Colombia. They could do no better than 35,000 on Sportsnet 360 on Sunday.