Speaking of Unibroue glasses, I have this one, and I think it looks cool, but I hate it as an actual glass. I hate tulips where the base is very low on the stem and it is made by worse by how skinny it is. No good way to grip. It wants to be a flute glass or something.

Eismann wrote:Interested what you think of the Curmudgeon. I like old ales (Old Peculier is am all time fave) but haven't tried that.

Really, really good. I'm not very familiar with the style, but lots of caramel malts and brown sugar without being overly sweet. What I loved about the beer was the oak flavor coming through. You get a bit of the bourbon alcohol 'feel' too. So good. It kept getting a bit more complex as it warmed...which I love. If this is representative of the style, I'll have to keep my eyes open for different brewers...but Founders basically rocks everything they do.

Can't recommend it more. I'll have to track this down when the weather turns cooler...or I'll just keep the AC set to 67 degrees and pick up more tomorrow

What are the thoughts on Sly Fox? I've seen more of their stuff popping up around here and picked up a bottle of their Saison Vos at Whole Foods yesterday on the beer guy's recommendation (I haven't had it yet). I mostly like Victory and Troeg's, so I thought I'd see if this is another good Eastern PA brewer.

largegarlic wrote:What are the thoughts on Sly Fox? I've seen more of their stuff popping up around here and picked up a bottle of their Saison Vos at Whole Foods yesterday on the beer guy's recommendation (I haven't had it yet). I mostly like Victory and Troeg's, so I thought I'd see if this is another good Eastern PA brewer.

Their brewpub is not far from me. They are a solid brewery, albeit not in the level of Troegs et al. Love their red ale

largegarlic wrote:What are the thoughts on Sly Fox? I've seen more of their stuff popping up around here and picked up a bottle of their Saison Vos at Whole Foods yesterday on the beer guy's recommendation (I haven't had it yet). I mostly like Victory and Troeg's, so I thought I'd see if this is another good Eastern PA brewer.

Their brewpub is not far from me. They are a solid brewery, albeit not in the level of Troegs et al. Love their red ale

Thanks. In a way, I'm kind of pleased to hear that less than glowing assessment. It seems like Eastern PA is already well ahead of Western PA in terms of good local breweries.

That got me thinking, what are people's picks for the best Pittsburgh/Western PA brewer? I've had East End, Rivertown, Penn, and Church Brew Works, and I find all of them to be decent, but nothing special. If Fathead's counts (I'm not sure that they do, since I thought they brewed a lot of their stuff in Ohio), I think I would go with them.

largegarlic wrote:What are the thoughts on Sly Fox? I've seen more of their stuff popping up around here and picked up a bottle of their Saison Vos at Whole Foods yesterday on the beer guy's recommendation (I haven't had it yet). I mostly like Victory and Troeg's, so I thought I'd see if this is another good Eastern PA brewer.

I finally got around to trying the Saison Vos a few weeks ago. I got it out at the Beer Market, though, and the cork had almost no pop when I popped it (I had to do it because the new server didn't know how to uncage it ). The first pour tasted a little skunky. The final half of the bottle tasted okay, though. I'd like to try it again one of these days.