I'm still hoping we get at least a look at Smaug in the first film. I know they won't get anywhere near that point in the story, but they could have a prologue in the beginning or a teaser of him at the end of the movie.

NeoCortex42:I'm still hoping we get at least a look at Smaug in the first film. I know they won't get anywhere near that point in the story, but they could have a prologue in the beginning or a teaser of him at the end of the movie.

They'll probably show him attacking the lonely mountain from a distance in a flashback. Thorin tells the whole party about being out hunting when it happens. If they stay true to the source material the unexpected party will be much too long and much too boring for a film audience without some flashbacks or other things to liven it up.

I have to believe they will. Peter Jackson and LOTR content is nothing but money in the bank for New Line.

I don't see them stopping.

If I remember correctly, the only reason they were able to make a movie based on the trilogy and the Hobbit is because the Tolkien Estate sold the rights to the movie adaptation back in the '70s. The Tolkien Estate it self HATES the idea of the movies. In fact, the Tolkien Estate had to fight to even get proceeds from the modern adaptation of the trilogy.

Specifically: "n 1969, the writer sold the movie rights and rights for derived products for The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings to United Artists for 100,000 pounds sterling, a considerable sum at the time, but paltry when the current value is considered."

Egoy3k:NeoCortex42: I'm still hoping we get at least a look at Smaug in the first film. I know they won't get anywhere near that point in the story, but they could have a prologue in the beginning or a teaser of him at the end of the movie.

They'll probably show him attacking the lonely mountain from a distance in a flashback. Thorin tells the whole party about being out hunting when it happens. If they stay true to the source material the unexpected party will be much too long and much too boring for a film audience without some flashbacks or other things to liven it up.

That's what the musical interlude is for. We all know what Bilbo Baggins hates.

I have to believe they will. Peter Jackson and LOTR content is nothing but money in the bank for New Line.

I don't see them stopping.

The only problem with the Silmarillion is that it's not as well known to general audiences. Even people that haven't read LOTR or The Hobbit have heard of it. It will also be a little more difficult to market since it's not just one cohesive story. It's a collection of tales.

I think it would probably work best as an HBO series. Maybe a post-Game of Thrones fantasy production.

NeoCortex42:Egoy3k: NeoCortex42: I'm still hoping we get at least a look at Smaug in the first film. I know they won't get anywhere near that point in the story, but they could have a prologue in the beginning or a teaser of him at the end of the movie.

They'll probably show him attacking the lonely mountain from a distance in a flashback. Thorin tells the whole party about being out hunting when it happens. If they stay true to the source material the unexpected party will be much too long and much too boring for a film audience without some flashbacks or other things to liven it up.

That's what the musical interlude is for. We all know what Bilbo Baggins hates.

Rev.K: BalugaJoe: I hope they do Silmarrion movie after this.

I have hoped for that for a long, long time.

I have to believe they will. Peter Jackson and LOTR content is nothing but money in the bank for New Line.

I don't see them stopping.

The only problem with the Silmarillion is that it's not as well known to general audiences. Even people that haven't read LOTR or The Hobbit have heard of it. It will also be a little more difficult to market since it's not just one cohesive story. It's a collection of tales.

I think it would probably work best as an HBO series. Maybe a post-Game of Thrones fantasy production.

I'd love to see The Tale of the Children of Húrin (Narn I Hîn Húrin) be given the Game of Thrones treatment. Or the Tale of Beren and Lúthien.

Modguy:NeoCortex42: Egoy3k: NeoCortex42: I'm still hoping we get at least a look at Smaug in the first film. I know they won't get anywhere near that point in the story, but they could have a prologue in the beginning or a teaser of him at the end of the movie.

They'll probably show him attacking the lonely mountain from a distance in a flashback. Thorin tells the whole party about being out hunting when it happens. If they stay true to the source material the unexpected party will be much too long and much too boring for a film audience without some flashbacks or other things to liven it up.

That's what the musical interlude is for. We all know what Bilbo Baggins hates.

Rev.K: BalugaJoe: I hope they do Silmarrion movie after this.

I have hoped for that for a long, long time.

I have to believe they will. Peter Jackson and LOTR content is nothing but money in the bank for New Line.

I don't see them stopping.

The only problem with the Silmarillion is that it's not as well known to general audiences. Even people that haven't read LOTR or The Hobbit have heard of it. It will also be a little more difficult to market since it's not just one cohesive story. It's a collection of tales.

I think it would probably work best as an HBO series. Maybe a post-Game of Thrones fantasy production.

I'd love to see The Tale of the Children of Húrin (Narn I Hîn Húrin) be given the Game of Thrones treatment. Or the Tale of Beren and Lúthien.

Fall of Gondolin anyone? An ARMY of Balrogs and other more frightening things, plus that epic one on one duel where the prince stabs the balrog to death with his helmet before they both die.

NeoCortex42:I'm still hoping we get at least a look at Smaug in the first film. I know they won't get anywhere near that point in the story, but they could have a prologue in the beginning or a teaser of him at the end of the movie.

This hasn't gotten a lot of publicity, but the second Hobbit film is going to take most of the songs/music left out of both the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings and make a musical. It's going to be a love song to the fans, and the actors are already learning how to sing in English with a Sindarin accent.

The Martian Manhandler:After The Hobbit, New Line is making a three movie series out of 'Farmer Giles of Ham'.

Is that the story where the farmer has to fend off a giant or something with a blunderbuss? Or did I imagine all that?

AntonChigger:Fall of Gondolin anyone? An ARMY of Balrogs and other more frightening things, plus that epic one on one duel where the prince stabs the balrog to death with his helmet before they both die.

AntonChigger:Modguy: NeoCortex42: Egoy3k: NeoCortex42: I'm still hoping we get at least a look at Smaug in the first film. I know they won't get anywhere near that point in the story, but they could have a prologue in the beginning or a teaser of him at the end of the movie.

They'll probably show him attacking the lonely mountain from a distance in a flashback. Thorin tells the whole party about being out hunting when it happens. If they stay true to the source material the unexpected party will be much too long and much too boring for a film audience without some flashbacks or other things to liven it up.

That's what the musical interlude is for. We all know what Bilbo Baggins hates.

Rev.K: BalugaJoe: I hope they do Silmarrion movie after this.

I have hoped for that for a long, long time.

I have to believe they will. Peter Jackson and LOTR content is nothing but money in the bank for New Line.

I don't see them stopping.

The only problem with the Silmarillion is that it's not as well known to general audiences. Even people that haven't read LOTR or The Hobbit have heard of it. It will also be a little more difficult to market since it's not just one cohesive story. It's a collection of tales.

I think it would probably work best as an HBO series. Maybe a post-Game of Thrones fantasy production.

I'd love to see The Tale of the Children of Húrin (Narn I Hîn Húrin) be given the Game of Thrones treatment. Or the Tale of Beren and Lúthien.

Fall of Gondolin anyone? An ARMY of Balrogs and other more frightening things, plus that epic one on one duel where the prince stabs the balrog to death with his helmet before they both die.

Ohh that would be good.

Also, that guy is Glorfindel.

The guy who, according to some popular theories, not only died but was reborn (technically possible for elves; they have a weird afterlife depending on which stage of development you're looking at) in Valinor, came BACK to Middle Earth, and saved Frodo from the Nazgul on the way to Rivendell.

The Martian Manhandler:After The Hobbit, New Line is making a three movie series out of 'Farmer Giles of Ham'.

Where'd you hear that? I have it on the highest authority that New Line's next project will be an attempt to satisfy the hard-core tolkien geeks while cashing in on the "Glee" phenomenon by producing a "The Adventures of Tom Bombadill" which will of course be a musical and star Justin Beiber in the title role

The beards just don't seem right. They don't really seem like Dwarfs to me and I'm not sure why.

For me it's the variation in body types. I sort of picture dwarfs as all looking like Gimli with minor variations in hair color and facial features. But these dwarfs look very different in build. But all I've seen are the introduction trailer/commercial so it's hard to say.

I have to believe they will. Peter Jackson and LOTR content is nothing but money in the bank for New Line.

I don't see them stopping.

If I remember correctly, the only reason they were able to make a movie based on the trilogy and the Hobbit is because the Tolkien Estate sold the rights to the movie adaptation back in the '70s. The Tolkien Estate it self HATES the idea of the movies. In fact, the Tolkien Estate had to fight to even get proceeds from the modern adaptation of the trilogy.

Is it the entire estate that hates them or just Christopher Tolkien? Because he won't live forever and the estate might have different ideas once he's gone.

I don't know if I'd really like any of the Valar vs. Morgoth stories done by Jackson. I don't like his treatment of the elves, except for Legolas. The high elves seem too stiff and ethereal.

Now, the rise and fall of Numenor would make quite a good movie. Men vs Sauron vs those darn immortals in Valinor.

Modguy:The guy who, according to some popular theories, not only died but was reborn (technically possible for elves; they have a weird afterlife depending on which stage of development you're looking at) in Valinor, came BACK to Middle Earth, and saved Frodo from the Nazgul on the way to Rivendell.

Tolkien actually wrote about this, so it isn't just a popular theory, but canonically true. Although it did partially stem from Tolkien being somewhat disorganized and scatter brained and accidentally reusing the name in a draft.

born_yesterday:The Martian Manhandler: After The Hobbit, New Line is making a three movie series out of 'Farmer Giles of Ham'.

Is that the story where the farmer has to fend off a giant or something with a blunderbuss? Or did I imagine all that?

AntonChigger: Fall of Gondolin anyone? An ARMY of Balrogs and other more frightening things, plus that epic one on one duel where the prince stabs the balrog to death with his helmet before they both die.