Autocracy? You mean when a top official, let’s call him mr Orange, can fire anyone who could accuse him or disagree with him and deny any lie and never be held accountable no matter how much damage is done.

Facebook seems to have a ton of challenges up ahead. I feel like if you have the stomach for risk it could be a decent place to work if you want to go up against those challenge. I see some folks chiming in from companies that have problems of their own (mine included) but not as public. Facebook’s mission/vision is genuine as described. Once they figure out the balance between monetization and that mission/vision, they should be okay. If you’re looking for a check, benefits, the FAANG badge, and wlb then maybe it’s not your cup of tea. And that’s okay. Unsure why ECTT56 seems so compelled to attack FB employees here. You’re not even in the same industry facing the same problems. High chance that the person interested in FB isn’t aligned too well with your work place (Nvida). Just say you don’t like FB and go about life.

I agree with wjwjej though because we all drink our own flavor of koolaid.

Dudes chill the f out. Don't let your companies brainwash you. There is no perfect company, just make sure to be happy with what you do and try to make an impact. Both Nvidia and FB are great companies if you are in the right team and making an impact.

That’s more the folks on the spectrum who never developed empathy and compassion for others. Certainly some ultra smart folks there. Not a lot of ultra smart folks in general though; that’s not the median employee at any of these companies. But I am an idiot; completely stupid!

^ what does that have to do with conservatives idiot? The guy pointing out IQ actually meant to say leftists instead of liberals. There are right leaning classical liberals and there are left leaning authoritarianists as well. I never said libertarian is conservative.

In general, there are 3 axis:X: left —&gt rightY: Authoritarian —&gt Libertarian Z: Economic, Social

Think of it as a cube. Left leaning libertarians on social issues for example want you to have the freedom to do whatever you want in the bedroom, pro LGB+. Right leaning libertarians on economic issues want less regulation and free markets.

Snapchat is such a dumb product, still can’t figure out how it took off like that. It’s messed up that insta ripped them off so brazenly but that functionality makes way more sense to me as a feature there, than as an idiotic standalone product with an entire company built around it.

^^ what’s funny about the “grandpa” remarks is that anyone who knows the product is aware that FB’s user base skews older, often markedly so compared to other social media. You should be grateful for grandpas, not insult them; they’re keeping the site going.

Not sure that fb influenced the election more than it divided people further away than they already were. I can’t tell you how many friends I lost over politics on fb. Deleted it a long time ago along with all of my data.

Why should you? Do it if it’s what you want, no one is begging you. It’s a job, 99% of the people do it for the money, no matter what they say about missions and shit. Touch their salary and their ideals go to the trash. So if you like the money, come.

You can stay in touch with friends and family that are on Facebook. In five years, you'll get friendship anniversary reminders. That is a nice way to know what's going on with other's lives without being intrusive

That's like saying, "the nice thing about eating at buffets everyday is you'll never be hungry, they have free refills and no one else there is judging you for reguarly engaging in this harmful behavior"...

Cherry picking the one nice to have little niche while ignoring the mind dumbing ads, personal life and emotional manipulation and general privacy yard sell.

It's weird that no one else thought phone calls or meeting someone you care about in person was so "intrusive" before.

No they won’t they have done jack with oculus. Microsoft is again going to be the loser. hololens has been out for awhile..anyone using one? Answer...no. Apple will have their glasses out and revolutionize things

The dominant paradigm that FB has focused on thus far is public sharing. In the next 5 years, we will likely be focused on sharing in smaller paradigms. Zuck talks about the town square vs the living room. In doing this, the paradigm of sharing will move to be more private.

We also recognize our responsibility to the safety of people and to democratic elections. This is a massively complicated technology problem. Everybody complains rather than provides solutions. We don’t have the luxury of just pointing out what’s not working. We’re trying to fix an unprecedented problem at unprecedented scale. This has massive implications to society when it comes to free speech vs regulated speech.

Messaging will continue to dominate the way people interact with society and we have some of the most popular messaging platforms whether it’s for western markets or 2nd/3rd world markets. That model will also evolve as they move towards being more private.

We will continue to get people connected to the internet who live in areas that don’t have internet today. Increasing penetration of information will be important as mobile penetration growth tapers.

We’ll continue to push forth in AR/VR. We recently launched the Quest, which represents the next step in hardware. We still have a ways to go until VR becomes adopted by the masses.

We’ll also continue to experiment in the hardware space. We recently launched Portal and believe that hardware plays a key role in how people connect with each other.

As far as our main app goes, people will always want to connect and share with each other. Whether it’s with friends or family or support groups; whether it’s text, photos, videos, live videos, short stories, or VR spaces; sharing will always be there. We’ll continue to evolve with it.

This a research company doing a survey that claims there is a drop in active users in the us.

1. The us is a small piece of the fb ecosystem. It matters for revenue, of course, but it is far from summarizing fb trends. This is a market where fb reached saturation- almost everyone uses fb very often. There are many other markets globally where fb is not yet in that position and is growing rapidly

2. Dude it is a survey. It is a survey that contradicts the publically available usage data fb reports every quarter... that one even has a nice breakdown by region where you can see the saturation in the us where fb (excluding ig) remains pretty flat and Asia + Africa grows very rapidly.

3. Self reported behavior surveys are an incredibly inaccurate tool to make precise numeric arguements, they may be good directionally. I was personally involved in a survey taken by people that used fb a few times the previous week with 20% claiming they never used fb before .

You ignore most of the world, base your conclusions on one survey data where better data is available and you make assumption about ig stories (which is far smaller in than whatsapp stories btw) despite ig having massive growth prior to stories.

You should be careful about confirmation bias and picking the data source that confirms what you thought before you looked

FB itself has a huge and growing problem. Teens. They despise FB. They have for the past five or more years and yet, FB hasn't figured out how to address it. Buying other properties that are popular with the younger gens hasn't helped FB itself.

I'm getting tired of FB too. You still can't quickly search and peruse your old postings easily or those of your friends. Some of the features that Google+ had that were obviously cool have never made it to FB. Why is it so tough to maintain friend lists? FB is just getting tired feeling let alone the issues with privacy.

Wow lot of defensive responses from FB people. Honestly ask yourself if you or anyone you know uses FB much anymore. Answer is mostly no and large decrease. Yah that’s not the same as real research but it is a big trend. Obvious that people are spending less time on Facebook, posting less and overall less engagement. Those are major trends in play. So go ahead and quibble over a little data point here or there but there is an obvious huge trend in motion...

How is criticizing your data resources and trying to be helpful by providing the actual data being defensive?

I'm actually trying to have a real conversation and show you where you are doing some lazy research work.

And as commented above - ig is and has been a fb product for quite some time. Many of the leaders and engineers building and initiating the projects that drove ig growth are the same ones that did it in fb... this is not a split company working independently.

People need to stop conflating fb the company with fb the product. All FB employees joining after the ig acquisition (&gt95% of the company) joined a world that included ig and were part of making it successful. There is this made up reality in peoples minds of some small ig team that's kept separate and is winning while everyone else is losing...

There quite a few fair criticisms you could make of fb, there is no need to invent facts/trends.

Since when do these tech companies actually work on anything “game changing”? Their own goal is to increase shareholder profits, whether it be by releasing gender-bending selfie filters or by adding the newest way to integrate your entire financial life into your iPhone. If you truly want to work on something game-changing, I would recommend higher level cs research at a public institution.

The product creates an addictive time sinkhole that's poisonous to society, while selling eyeballs and people's data to marketers. There's no pride to be had from working at this company, it's a net negative for the world.

I think it’s interesting how the liberal elite look down their noses at how people spend their time. It’s all very elitist and pompous. You’re too good to see pictures of family and friends, read a few articles, laugh at a couple of memes and see your friends get married and go interesting places. No, people like you sneer at people living normal lives. It’s such a POISON to society.

Instead, you’re spending your time saving the world burying yourself with a game console or shopping online. Maybe you’re being a super productive citizen binging on Netflix or flipping through Tinder.

Geebus. This thread is rife with evidence why Facebook is decaying. There is no remorse from Facebook-ers, no apologetic introspection, and no consideration that maybe some of the people on this thread use FB (ie don't attack your customers). Just attacking other points of view including various replies trying to tear down just about every other company on blind outside FB.

But in my personal opinion much of this is overblown. We used to be attacked for having walled garden so we created APIs so that peoples data could be portable. They had that freedom and responsibility. But now people complain that they had that freedom. We didn’t give anybody their personal data; those people gave it themselves.

So now we’re closing stuff up because people can’t be allowed to handle their own data. And yet now, again, we’re being asked to make that data portable to take to other services. That’s literally what we’ve been bashed for.

And the bashing is way overblown. People think that this is how Trump got elected because it’s easier to blame a corporation rather than accept that 1) Hillary sucked 2) she ran a shitty campaign and 3) there’s a good chunk of America that likes Trump.

If your average citizen cared about the hysteria put out by NYtimes, you would’ve seen user numbers crater. Instead they’re still up and to the right. All the hysteria is among NYT, liberal elite and Silicon Valley bubble.

The people who shared their data to take dumb personality quizzes didn’t care and still don’t care.

Yet we still take our responsibility serious fighting attackers, spammers and people up to no good. But even this is a paradox because people have asked for more privacy but that makes safety harder. When you have end to end encryption, you can’t monitor for bad people. I’m sure everyone will blame FB.

Other paradoxes also apply to us. People want us to monitor news and end disinformation but then they also don’t want us to censor and believe in free speech. There are literally the same people asking opposing things.

So we’ve literally asked governments and society to help us decide how to choose on these matters but we acknowledge we can’t do it alone. And yet even that is taken with cynicism by the liberal media claiming that we want regulation to shutdown competitors.

Everyone wants their cake and they want to eat it too. This isn’t about improving society, fairness or even making a better Facebook. This is about a media industry whose business has been disrupted by the internet and the biggest powers trying to take down emerging powers. You don’t think NYT tracks you, profiles you and collects data on what you read?

And sadly even the most educated of us are susceptible to the agenda of the media. Even the most educated of us are susceptible to political grandstanding.

The majority of people are 'meh' anyway so don't be too hard on yourself. Most people don't feel crazy about every offer. The same is true about how companies feel about candidates. It is just business.

I was thinking about this and we have the unique opportunity to go work for these companies and fix what is wrong. If we think these products should be more humane then as a product designer I actually have a voice so why not use it?