OK, I dunno what it's called, but seen it in a couple vids. Where the heli travels backwards, but you kinda pitch up and fwd just a tad, then travel backwards while the heli is tilted fwd. Kinda like MJ's Moonwalk I guess. Looks like the heli shoult be going fwd, but it goes backwars, but follows a up/down sawtooth pattern.

The first time I saw the move was at the San Diego Funfly 2008 I believe. I think I videoed it and when I asked Tim Jones what the move was he said "some guys call it the Curly Shuffle". So that kind of stuck out here anyway.

I'm going to resurrect this thread. I too want to know how to do these, and there was no explanation given.

When I watch others do them, I think I understand what the heli is doing, but my thumbs fail to execute the proper timing or stick inputs. Can someone give a quick rundown of the cyclic/collective timing needed?

by a curly shuffle do you mean a tail down tic toc that 'walks along', cos thats how i do them on the sim. if so they are not difficult once you can do tic tocs well.

i'll try to describe what i think is happening. with a normal tic toc, the important thing is the motion is EQUAL in both halves, whether its a fast upright tic toc, or more of a slow rainbow type. so you always come back to your starting position.

what makes the curly shuffle motion different is that it is not equal in both directions. the first part is much the same as normal - and is the moving along the ground section. the point which the tail rotor sits will probably have moved on a bit (as in almost all tic tocs or rainbows unless your very careful) - which is important here as its what you use to move along the ground. but in the second part you should apply much less collective, and the elevator much more sharply - so the tail rotor stays put as the heli arcs back quickly again to the start position (which has moved). if you repeat these motions in turn, you will move forward (or backwards - depending on which section you do them) in a ratcheting motion. hope that makes sense.

trouble is, ive seen people do these in a slightly different way, so it might not be the definitive 'curly shuffle'. but its a good maneuver to learn anyway.