Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments

Anthony Migchels lives in Arnhem, the Netherlands. He started the Gelre, the first regional currency in the Netherlands. His blog is [link to realcurrencies.wordpress.com] which raises awareness of monetary matters, most notably the nefarious implications of interest, as a way of empowering people and the commonwealth in their struggle against the Money Power.

Ezra Pound was never insane; it was basically political retribution for his broadcasts from Italy during WWII in English to the American, English, Australian, and Canadian forces fighting the axis powers. Ezra Pound was an anti-Semite who also bitterly attacked the money powers of his day.

Ezra Pound was a political prisoner held in an insane asylum and his health was failing. Eustace Mullins interceded on his behalf and was able to get Pound released.

Ezra Pound had visited Worgl Austria and studied the concepts that Silvio Gesell had developed and promoted. There is no doubt in my mind that Pound conveyed his knowledge to Mullins, but the knowledge was lost before reaching Griffin.

There is much in Austrian Economics that is correct, however, Mises never comprehended the importance of Worgl.

Consequently, I have written that a deep belief in Austrian Economics is part of the problem.

However, within the framework of a communication theory of money the validity of Narayana Kocherlakota's input is recognized. Any money token no matter the composition is a socially accepted mnemonic device.

Money is social memory.

Nothing I have written recommends that gold and silver coins cannot nor should not be used; it is just that you are limiting yourself conceptually if you do not step beyond that point.

Close examination reveals that Tally Sticks lasted for about 712 years which is longer than any coinage.

Tally sticks were a fairly stable medium of exchange because the issuance was limited in quantity. They were credit instruments drawn upon the credit of the king and accepted back as payments to governance. This points out that the "tax theory of value" is mostly correct.

As a result, various accounting techniques were used to keep track of agricultural products and land use, maritime and land-based trade, animals, and labor. Taxation, public works projects, military initiatives and conquest eventually necessitated record-keeping as a way for rulers and their advisors to maintain social order. (Find out how these two have grown hand-in-hand throughout our modern history in Accounting And Taxes, Like Peanut Butter And Jelly.)

Some aspects of governance must remain because money is a social creation and social customs must be agreed upon and set to a paper record. The present model is corrupt in the extreme with banksters and governsters in an extortive and collusion model with the general populace the victims.

Previously I have written that centralized money and centralized government form a symbiotic pair - neither can exist without the other. That the answer to returning (some) power to the people is to decentralize the money creation process and put it into localized control.

Some conclusions - a newer comprehension - with some rules:

Money exists as a symbol system for rationalizing the exchange of real things by means of proxy instruments and by means of contracts. It is a special extension of language that is primarily a communication. Within a communication theory of money many things can serve in the token and contract function. What is of primary importance in a communication theory of money is that the communications are made in truth.

To maintain truth in monetary communications the banker must have a clearly defined agency relationship to the people whereas:

* Reputation records (the credibility index) is kept on people (what? politicians also?),* Where the reputation is poor, a performance bond must be posted as a partial collateralization of the contracts,* Precious metals are given formal recognition as savings, and,* These "savings" are presented and held in escrow as the performance bonds and,* The Mandrake Mechanism is formalized and taught as a valid way to create money where,* The people own the money system is a socialistic fashion with an open books policy and rebates after costs are made to the people and,* The "value" of the money is dominated in human time and the number of units of time is stabilized in proportion to population demographics - quantity is important and,* Everybody pays for using the system, but the hypothecation of the promissory notes carries zero interest - only a monthly service charge that is minimal and,* All users rebate a sales tax like demurrage fee on circulating media plus a monthly fee on accounts of record.

These are my opinions and conclusions made after much study and reflection.

It is no use to wait until the Government cleans up its act. It never will. It is completely controlled by the enemy. Private initiative is the only hope we have. In fact, let’s face it: why would children of the One expect to have their lives be run by sugardaddies like Government? Private initiative is all there is.

Private currencies, competing with the Money Power in the market place are the way forward.

The world was conquered by a few ambitious men serving the Adversary.

It is now time for it to be liberated by a few ambitious men serving the One.

“THERE IS NOTHING MORE DANGEROUS THAN PERSONAL INITIATIVE: if it has genius behind it, such initiative can do more than can be done by millions of people among whom we have sown discord.”

Did the Rockefellers have the Titanic built to sink the opposition to the Federal Reserve and fund WW1?

(another search question where you will discover another conspiracy under discussion)

Was the ship that sank not the Titanic, but actually the sister ship the Olympic?

The Olympic had been involved in several accidents where no insurance payments were made and the ship was deemed beyond repair. Perhaps a decision was made behind the scenes to deliberately put the Olympic (renamed the Titanic) into a collision path with an iceberg. The video tells that a nearly empty ship was stopped about 18 miles away and speculates that this was intended to minimize loss of life. Critical crew members were aware of the details, but SNAFUs ruled.

And they hire - for very cheap - low-level psychopaths to kill "problem people" for them.

A lot of killings over LAND.

Not buildings.

They write the laws too!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29297785

I am finding your inputs interesting. I thought Brazil was better than that and more civilized.

Even if not legal (thieves like their victims to be disarmed)- can you gain possession of weapons? The masonic politicians need to experience the same or greater level of fear as they instill in the populace.

It is about the time for people to realize that :- you don't need police to be good, helping, serving others, with high morals- you don't need .gov to organize your life, to prosper, thrive and move on, do biz, do whatever it takes as society- you don't need anymore any sort of authority to go on your way.

And the only thing that keeps us all stuck is the fear and the fake belief in fake authority.

It is about the time for people to realize that :- you don't need police to be good, helping, serving others, with high morals- you don't need .gov to organize your life, to prosper, thrive and move on, do biz, do whatever it takes as society- you don't need anymore any sort of authority to go on your way.

And the only thing that keeps us all stuck is the fear and the fake belief in fake authority.

Quoting: SeoKungFu

Nicely said; congratulations! This is the core message from the voluntarists like Molyneux, Larken Rose, and Marc Stevens.

Seems a bit "pie in the sky" idealistic to me and perhaps difficult to make happen... but an optimistic and hopeful point of view.

And they hire - for very cheap - low-level psychopaths to kill "problem people" for them.

A lot of killings over LAND.

Not buildings.

They write the laws too!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29297785

I am finding your inputs interesting. I thought Brazil was better than that and more civilized.

Even if not legal (thieves like their victims to be disarmed)- can you gain possession of weapons? The masonic politicians need to experience the same or greater level of fear as they instill in the populace.

When I saw this table full of drug money captured that is being carried into a courtroom as a display, it stuck me once again that the physical printed money is once again being confused with the credit money as a social phenomena and/or public property.

The printed money-media (money is a communication) is but a small percentage of the total money.

The far larger quantity of communication money exists as written records and as electronic entries.

The video does get into the process and asks good questions.

The table full of printed money-media is the visible symbol of a purported theft while the far larger theft is of the public credit - the unseen theft - where the banks trade among themselves with stolen media.

The public credit is the property of the general public and the only way to run such a banking model is where the banks are agents to the people with an annual or semi-annual rebate and banking books are held open for inspection.

The speaker in the video is Dr Jem Bendell of the University of Cumbria of Carlisle England. He is asking questions much like Prof Auriti of Italy asked.

The talk jumps immediately into the "11th marble" problem while missing (just as I missed) the greater error that lies in the wrongful presumption that the bank actually owns the credit they are dealing in. This is the seigniorage problem in the credit as money system.

It is my position that in a money as a communal credit model where the system deals in exchange of credit units and in hypothecation of promissory notes that gold is better used as both medium of savings and where the same savings are used in a performance bond role.

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