Depressed and unhappy

I had 7 teeth removed end of August 2018, then the remaining 12 November 30, 2018 and immediate dentures. I started with soft foods and was told to start adding "chewable" foods at 2 weeks. I tried and was not able to chew or drink anything without the bottom denture popping up. I had a soft reline done at week 3. Fixodent would not even hold the bottoms in, even with only drinking water. 10 days after the reline the bottoms popped up and I had to take them out. I noticed the "soft reline" was coming loose so I pulled it off the rest of the way (it did not help the bottoms to stay in anyway). Now I am back to eating soft foods again. I am so unhappy and feel like I would be better off not eating or drinking anything. I know there is an adjustment period, but I am just depressed not being able to eat "real food". I drink Ensure Plus to keep some sort of nourishment in me. I have lost nearly 20 lbs from not being able to eat and I am irritable and angry all the time, in addition to being angry I am hungry constantly (guess that is what is called "hangry") Do I really have to wait another 8 months for the hard reline to be able to "eat"?

Karen I just saw your post and it just shook me. I'm so very sorry to hear what you are going through. I had similar situation. Actually.. still kinda have it..had my teeth done nearly 3 years ago. The whole thing can be a real physical shock to your system. What you may have to do is eat. I had to just take out uppers and lowers and just eat. Still had trouble with things like a steak or salad, but for most part I could eat more and after a few days or so... can't remember....I was feeling better. Mentally. I certainly was not a pretty sight and couldn't go to restaurants, but just having that depressing aggravation of trying to eat out of the way gave me a bit of a boost. Now for me personally, my teeth do not fit right. So I still have problems. That's not to say you will. But I'm glad I did not keep fighting with myself trying to reteach my mouth to eat. Once I felt stronger, I had some fight in me to keep going. Keep getting to your dentist and if depression keeps up, see your family doctor. I found out after the fact that I have a reaction to novacaine...or whatever it is that they use. And since the use so much during extractions, my body was out of wack. After some time you should be back to normal...or your"new normal". But you've got to eat. I think take the teeth out and eat. I'm not a professional for sure though. I really hope you feel better soon. I was very self conscious before because my teeth were bad, so for me, being able to smile without being embarrassed was a great feeling. It takes a while sometimes to heal. You will get there. Many other people on this site will give better advice,I'm sure. Take care. Hope you are feeling better soon!!! Hang in there!!!

I really don't think I can stand this for 3 years... I do try to eat no matter how uncomfortable, I just go through the motions and cut my food into tiny enough pieces that I can just swallow it. I wanted ham with new years day dinner so I made it and took upper and lower out just to make and eat a sandwich... Thank you for your encouragement and pray for me.

I'm sorry I didnt mean to imply you would have trouble like me for 3 years like I have. I was told that I would be healed in about 2 weeks. On this site I had many tell me that it may take longer....NOT to say you will be miserable for a long while. I admit I was feeling terrible. It seems like it will never be the same again. So frustrating. Since my dentist didn't offer any help, I tried my own thing and that was to take them out and rest for awhile. My dentist did not tell me that in a few months they would adjust them again because my mouth needed to heal completely and that would take time. For me, I couldn't afford much...so I guess I got what I paid for. I could not afford the permanents so I still use the immediates. Apparently that makes a big difference. Over time I did have a couple of soft religns and that helped and my gums seems to have healed to fit my dentures better. I still cannot use my lowers but don't let that worry you. That is my situation. I was forcing myself in the beginning and that is when I finally took them out as much as I could. So I relaxed more. That helped. It does get better. I still cannot eat with them...I've been told I'll need new ones made. Can't afford that. But don't panic. That's just my case. Yes I wish I had my own teeth but my real ones were in bad shape. (Cancer) . I remember though feeling like you. I was so disappointed. Well, that's an understatement...but I adapted. I feel bad for you. Give yourself some time. Remember, it is surgery to have all that work done. I hope I didn't make you feel worse. I think you will find on this site many people who can relate and someone will have a suggestion for just about anything you have a problem with. Take care.

I have heard of the do it yourself kits for doing a soft religns. I never tried. I think because I thought I would mess it up and end up having to go back to the dentist, which I know I couldn't afford right now. I always think that one day I'll have extra money for "a just in case" scenario. Was it easy? Is there a particular brand or company that is better than others? Just wondering.

Consider snap on DenturesThey don't rub against the gum and irritate them, causing bruises, grazes, cuts or abrasions. Wearers can wear these dentures without worry about hurting their gums. Snap-on dentures improve your ability to chew all kinds of food, so you can eat anything comfortably.

The soft reline kit doesn't cost much at all . mixi it up good and spread it evenly in the denture and bit down so it gets the impression of your gums .. Bite down hard . if you mess up you can peel it back out and it again .. Read about it online its pretty easy .

Advantages: The overdenture attachments keep the denture from pressing down too hard on the gum line, allowing an overdenture wearer to bite on harder foods without the typical discomfort a traditional denture wearer experiences when biting down hard. Most implant overdenture wearers report significant improvement the level of comfort and function that an overdenture provides versus a traditional lower denture.

A severe gag reflex can cause serious issues for patients wearing an upper denture. Since the fit of an upper denture is derived from the “suction” effect on the palate, coverage of the palate is a requirement for a good fit. When a patient has a gag reflex, it is impossible to extend the denture appropriately. In this situation, an implant overdenture can be a significant advantage and a comfortable remedy. With the retention of the denture coming from the snap mechanism of the implant attachments, the palate does not need to be fully covered, and thereby minimizes a patient’s gag reflex.

What does it say about the cost? It does not mention the cost. That is because the procedure is cost prohibitive and the follow up care, every 6 months, is what got most of us here in the first place, yes!?

Below is from the internet but at NYU dental college in New York city they charge less and at NYU the work is done by graduate dentists===========================================

I just left (Louisiana State University) LSU School of Dentistry this morning with my estimate.

I’ve been quoted $2400.00 which includes 3 implants and 1 bone graft. This does not include the abutments or crowns.The bone graft surgery is to be done first, is $900.00 and is included in the $2400.00 quote.

The bone grafting surgery and implants are done by senior year students in the periodontal department and supervised by the professors. Normally the senior year periodontists charge full retail rates but even this quote seems to be lower than what I’ve been seeing out there. I may be wrong, please feel free to weigh in on this.

The abutment work and crowns will be be performed by the junior year students at 1/3 retail rates and also supervised by professors.

You seem really nice, Barbara. You are so helpful. However, you talk a lot of smack about the complications of traditional dentures, to people who most likely cannot afford implants and I'm sure they feel like they are less-than or maybe even stupid because of it. Like when you can only afford a 10 year old car and everyone keeps telling you how much better a brand new car is. I don't think that is fair. Especially because implants can be $40,000 - $60,000 and basic snap-ons can run upwards of $6,000. The ones you get in Mexico are the mini-implants, fraught full of complications and have killed a couple of Americans from the infection. They do not provide the regular implants that are not fraught full of the same complications.

For the snap-ons, you still need to pay for the same basic dentures so that cost is NOT excluded. You don't say how much yours cost so I don't believe that you even got them. I think that you need to step-up with your information or stop telling people that what they are doing and what they can afford is not good enough and making people feel bad because they don't have anything more than typical dentures that they can afford.

SpicySorry if I gave this impression to youI do have implants and I did get the completeimplants in NYC at NYUIt was a long time ago The uppers maybe 15 years ago and the lowers about 10 years agoThe uppers were more expensive because they were top of the line and the lowers though permanent were the HybredBridge over implants They charged me approx $13,000? for the Hybred bridge and I can not really remember but I think the uppers were aprox $25,000?

When I had the uppers done I had some dental insurance that paid a small part of the bill They did not pay for the implants but paid me toward the extractions and bridge? and some other kind of stuff

I have a gag reflex that has gotten worse and worse since I got older and I knew I could not handle a denture I had no trouble with thee implants and have been very happy with them. About used cars well I don't like them either but i drive a Honda

In Barbaras. Defence .. I had 18 teeth removed and dentures it cost me around 7500.00. 3500 ins paid and 4000.00 out of pocket . personally I'm not happy with dentures . had I known then I would have begged .. Borrowed or sold to get implants. Which eliminate gagging . loosening up. An all that . and they would be more like real teeth instead of something you soak in an okra jar every nite ..lol.. It's a serious consideration as you'll be wearing these for the rest of your life .. Just my 2 cents .. But I do wish you and everyone else. Only the best in whatever choice you make .

The medical facility is in Cancun Mexico. I did my own research online and have a friend that lives in Arizona close to the Mexican border. She told me that a lot of Americans go to Mexico to get their teeth done. So after I looked at all the reviews I picked Dayo Dental. There’s Sota Dental and others, but the reviews were scary. So, when I went to Cancun, the surgeon took a 3D scan and told me that I could get 6 implants on both arches. The more support for your permanent hybrid bridge is better, and that means a full set of teeth Vs all on four will support less. They picked me up for all of my appointments, and I had to get a full physical which showed that I had very high blood pressure. I was impressed with the level of care that they gave me. I got full sedation because I really didn’t want to hear or know what’s going on. Dr. Carrasco uses your own blood /plasma instead of bone graft to promote bone healing. I’m still reading more about this procedure called PRP. It took about 6 hours, since I had to get 12 implants and extracted all of my teeth. I woke up with an immediate denture to wear for 24 hours. The next day, I went back for an X ray and to see my progress. I stayed for a week after surgery to make sure I’m ok. I saw the surgeon everyday that week and he would adjust the denture almost daily because the swelling would go down and they would start hurting me. This is the part I hated the most! The swelling was terrible, and no amount of pain meds made me feel better. The good thing is that the worst part only lasted 4 days, and by the fifth day, I started to feel a lot better. He did a soft resign on my last day and I was on my way back home. Unfortunately, my dentures are starting to hurt and become loose. I bought some adhesive, so I’ll start that but I’m afraid because I still have stitches.

I hope I covered everything. So, the teeth are permanent, but I can’t have them screwed in until the implants are healed.That will take about 4 to 6 months. I have to wear these dentures until I go back to Mexico for my permanent teeth. The all on six implants with everything I just mentioned including sedation costs $25,000 for a full mouth restoration, so all 12 implants, scans, sedation, physical, airport and appointment pick ups, bone grafts, temporary and permanent dentures is all included in the price. I only paid 60% this time, and I’ll have to pay the rest when I go back. Unfortunately, the airfare, hotel, medicine, and everything else is not included. I found great deals online and Mexico is really cheap unless you’re going to do the tourist thing in Cancun, which I didn’t. My hotel was $35 a day, and my airfare was $300. I don’t want anyone doing what I just did until I fully complete the procedure. I don’t mind being the guinea pig for now.

Hi! I had all of my upper teeth removed November 2nd. And it was so hard. I ate yogurt and protein shakes for almost a month. I finally told my dentist they aren’t fitting right , please fix them so I can eat! I got a soft reline and also use seabond with super poly grip . It does do wonders. I started with eggs, than soft bread with cottage cheese and eventually worked up to vegetables and sweet potatoes. Keep at it.. try all the adhesives if you have to. It will help and get better.

I have spent so much money on adhesives and the only one that does not make me gag is fixodent with scope. I had to take the bottoms out to eat lunch today but I am still hungry. I cleaned my bottoms ate and then applied more adhesive and put them back in. I just don't see the light at the end of the tunnel. I had such high hopes for my new teeth.... Now I just want my real ones back...

It takes time. It really just takes time. Truth be told you're not actually supposed to use Fixodent on soft liners. I read that somewhere but I ended up doing that myself. One rule of thumb I used though was to only use powder for the first week after getting new soft liners. As for just drinking water causes them to pop out. The pastes are all water soluble. If the soft liner isn't fitting right then water gets in there easily and starts dissolving the paste. Try eating mac and cheese. If your bottoms pop out you can still gum the macaroni easily enough. After the first soft liner and even the second just drinking at work would cause my bottom to pop out by early mid afternoon. I ended up switching to Polygrip since I was using the paste again in the afternoon. I lost maybe 20-30 pounds in the first few months. That made me happy but lol as I got each new soft liner I was starting to eat better and better. I've now had my final hard liner for 2 days and I'm pretty close to weighing what I did before I had my teeth all removed. 16 of them by the way. They were all removed on March 5th. It was Labor day before I finally braved steak. Don't bite it. Cut it up and chew it lol. Anyway if that soft liner is too loose to begin with gluing them down won't help. Don't leave the Dentist's office if you think the soft liner is too loose.

Thank you for writing, Karen. I cried when I read what you wrote because I feel the exact same way. I had 22 teeth pulled the end of June 2018 and feel so sad as you described. I have the same issues you do with them popping out and I have to take them out and try to eat but still after even cutting everything up it's too hard to eat. I too am drinking protein shakes and it gives me 30 grams of protein per serving but I too feel at a loss for words and my thinking is scattered which is probably from not getting enough vitamins. I reluctantly will be getting a couple of implants on the bottom b/c I cannot hold it in at all. We cannot afford it after spending so much money the year before they were pulled on root canals that didn't work, etc. I am very sad. Again, thank you for expressing how you feel b/c I feel the same way and you have helped me have hope. I will be praying for you and please pray for me also. This is not an easy process at all.

Sorry for you too Shannon. I am still paying off my dentures after 3 years. My dentist office made it so easy. And for many it is. Just not for me. Dental work is so expensive. My teeth were in bad shape though. But, I am glad to be able to smile. I cannot wear lower denture at all... better than nothing. I lost weight initially too. Made lemonade with the lemons

Shannon MorrisMake sure the dentist that is doing your implants is experienced in inplantologyAsk where he got his training and how long the course wasAsk the number of implants he has placed Run it by usbabara

It does get better. The bottoms will always be an issue unless you get the screws. I am at just over a year and I don't use adhesive anymore. I learned to control the bottoms by keeping them in and dealing with them moving around and practiced eating with them in; sliding around, popping out, food getting under them and having to take them out to rinse etc. I did not eat in public, only at home. Make some grits, mash some breakfast sausage all up and add it to the grits with salt and pepper and practice eating, pretend chewing. Or whatever savory or sweet food that you can eat a lot of and that will make you feel satisfied. I only mixed the flavored, instant mashed potatoes with mashed up hamburger and at the whole thing myself. ........................................... Don't take them out to eat, whatever you do. Do not listen to the advise ............................................of people telling you to take your dentures out and eat without them, it is ............................................very bad advise.

Learn to eat with them in. It will hurt, it will be frustrating and you will cry with boogers coming out of your nose and you might scream like I did and all but eventually you will be able to eat with them in. If you eat without them you will absolutely ruin whatever bone you have left and you will look 10 - 15 years older in a couple of years and errrrrrrrrrrybody will see that you have dentures and you don't wear them properly. Don't do it. It took me about 3 or 4 months before I could eat "chewable" foods and barely even then.

Sharon:Your original post sounds exactly like me,so much so it could actually written by me!!! Even though I"'ve only had them 4 days the bottoms are loose and I''ve wasted money we don't have on adhesives.at least 5 or 6. Very, very depressed. I can't even imagine eating real food!!!
Good luck to you.

I suffered for 2 years with a full top denture and a bottom partial. I could not chew at all .
70 lbs later and 2 years I discovered Seabond it saved my life they have strips for the top and bottom.i still can’t eat steak ,lobster or anything you need to break apart . Otherwise I can chew so much better than before Seabond gives you a grip to bite. Plus no mess when you take the denture out peels right off.
Worth a try

My dentures are ill-fitting, the bottoms are the worst because I took an electric nail file to them because they were squeezing the heck out of my gums, then I dropped them and super-glued them back together. My uppers, the teeth are tilting in, towards my face instead of straight up and down or tilting out like my original teeth, yes I was a bit of a bucky. However, I can chew steak, I mean, I can't tear it off with my teeth but I can cut it up and chew it up. Eventually, you will get there but not now, give it 4 - 6 months to really get started and if you keep at it you will be eating just about everything at about 9 months. Eventually, when I save enough, I'm going to have another pair made or learn how to make my own. I bite a hamburger with the incisor part of the dentures and that works for me. Bite into an apple like the commercials? No way! I put the densurefit into my uppers because the reline the dentist did was way too thick and lowered my uppers like 1/4 " and raised the lowers the same amount, it was ridiculous. For the lowers, I filled that in with the stuff I bought on Amazon from the Japanese company but I have to reapply it every couple of days to a week so it's not long term. I tried the densurefit for the lowers but it cracked apart and peeled right out and so was a waste of $50.00.

Below is from the internet about dentures Lower denture are abigger problem then upper dentures and they reccommend \implants to secure them============================================================================

Most complete dentures stay in place by closely fitting to the underlying gum and bone tissue with a thin layer of saliva between your gums and the denture. The more surface area, the better the seal. This is why upper dentures tend to have fewer problems than lower dentures.

If you don't have any of your own teeth to help retain a denture, you can get dental implants and attach a denture to them.

Different types of dentures stay in place in different ways. All dentures are custom-made to fit your mouth, so they conform perfectly to the shape of any existing teeth and gums. Complete dentures stay in place because they are molded to fit the gum and bone ridges in your mouth. Also, your mouth muscles subconsciously adjust to having dentures there and work to hold them in place

. Lower complete dentures are a bit harder to keep in place because of the tongue, so overdentures (dentures attached to existing natural teeth roots or implants) are often recommended if possible.

Also, the overdentures work in keeping the bone you have left. Without teeth, the bone shrinks. But when you have the screws put in, not just the front three like the cheap Affordable Dentures does, but in the back also, the bone does not shrink or disappear as when you have nothing there at all and that is a HUGE reason to have the screws placed. The issue comes when it is time to pay for them, they aren't as expensive as some procedures, but they are not cheap either.

I paid about $2300 for the removing 16 teeth getting the immediate set and 4 soft liners scheduled before the they went to a hard liner. Insurance paid about 1200 and I used a Health Savings account card to pay for the rest. This was all paid in advance. It felt like it was forever between soft liner appointments but now I've had my hard liner I've actually eaten lunch and supper and still found my bottoms were in securely. That was a first. Used to be if I tried to eat 2 meals in the day without more paste the bottoms would pop out during the second meal.

I went to DDS Dentures + Implant Solutions of Grove, Ok. Every time I went there I kept seeing info on implants and a link to go to. www.teethinplace.com I will probably call them some time to set up an appointment to talk about my options for implants for my lowers.

I am so sorry that you are going through this, I can relate for sure. I am 27 years young and had all 28 teeth removed the week before Christmas. I was beyond depressed that I could not go see my family (there was no way I was up for a three hour drive after everything) and that I would not be able to enjoy that traditional Christmas dinner with family. After the extractions, I was not able to wear the temporary teeth, because it was too painful. I basically lived off of chicken broth and applesauce. My boyfriend ended up making a small ham for Christmas, which I was able to cut up really small. I am now three weeks post extractions and I had my first soft reline yesterday, and this taste is absolutely terrible. It is making me drool and nauseous. I am still not able to eat with the temporaries in, but I have been managing. I eat a lot of soup still, but I also have eaten scrambled eggs and sausage cut up really small. And the other day, I made pasta and meat sauce ( I highly recommend egg noodles, penne, etc. Anything that you can easily swallow - and I continued breaking down the ground beef as it cooked in the skillet). And that was the first real meal I was able to eat in weeks. But I am depressed and going insaneeee thinking of food. I just want a slice of my dads pizza in the worst way. It is going to be a long six months until I get my permanents. I was about 115 lbs before the extractions, and now I am probably around 100 lbs at most. I find that this site and everyone telling you their process really helps. It has helped me know what to expect, and helps me not freak out over the tiniest thing that may make me nervous. So thank you everyone for sharing your experiences :)

KristyHiDo not think of getting your permanents until they adjust these temps and you heal enough to wear them and eat with them. Only then think about getting the permanent dentures because if they can't fix the temps you won't like the permanent ones

You have paid for these Temps and probably even gone to contract on the permanent ones??

You have listened to the dentists advise and paid your money. Now get the full benefit of what you have paid for

Investigate getting clip on over dentures for your lower denture at the leastTalk to this dentist or chain about thee cost of the implants to anchor the denture.?

Investigate the cost and the benefits. Think of it as Paying for your cell phone or Cable

You will start feeling betterLet us know your progressGood luckBarbara

Please be careful using this product. I've used this for 15 + years. I now have transverse myelitis, ataxia and zinc induced mylopathy from the zinc in this product. The nerve damage is irreversible. Please look it up before use. My life has forever changed. I can barely walk, I can't walk up and down stairs, I can no longer drive and nerve pain at times is unbearable. I started rehab in hopes to regain my balance and coordination. Polygrip has removed zinc from their product. Fixodent has had many class action lawsuits because of the damage that was done to consumers.

Fixodent. Polygrip is zinc free. Please make sure of the ingredients before using. I'm trying to get the word out. Yesterday was my first therapy appt. I believe I can get some balance back but the nerve damage in the spinal cord is irreversible.

I am 5 months after extractions and 2 sets of temp dentures and tons of bone spurs, the dentist cut my gums and now my tongue is straining, thinking about going to a different dentist for my permanent set, had a consult at Aspen and considering comfylites. ughhhh this has been horrible.

PartriciaNow that you have priced out your permanent dentures from 2 different places why don't you price out over dentures for your uppers and lower jaws or at least consider an over denture for you lower jaw where people have the most trouble

You should pick a place that has experience in implants like a dental college or a prosdodontist that has done many implants------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Below is some information about over dentures from the internet:

Implant Supported Dentures:

Provide tremendous support and fixation so you can comfortably speak, chew, and smile.

Barbara both places do a package for an immediate denture and a final denture I havent gotten a price from the second dentist yet the first dentist didnt give me a price so far I laid $1000 out of pocket for dentures I cant wear

I paid $1000 and they have made 2 sets of horrible temporary dentures meanwhile she has had to cut out 5 bone spurs which she informed me she was doing as a free service. And her assistant told me I was being to picky, I currently have bone showing thru my lower gums, I consulted another dentist he said I have a lot of healing to do and that office is supposed to quote me the difference in price for the highest quality denture verses what my insurance will allow money wise. But I want to go to affordable dentures where Debi Hilly a woman who post on here went, she had a horse shoe upper made, my upper gives me a pounding headache and I think this might be my solution, I want to see if I can have one made while I continue to heal even if I cant eat with it and have to do my own relines I cant take going to appointments or leaving my house without teeth in my mouth any more and Im not sure if I want to spend another $1000 for immediates when I can pay $350 and then let my insurance cover my final denture. So right now I really have no idea what I am going to do going forward I thought by now I would have a beautiful smile and be about done with this instead I feel like Im about to have a nervous break down its been horrible for me.

I understand what you are going through as I too have been having problems. I’m on month 3 and I still don’t have descent temporaries as I haven’t been able to even have them in my mouth as too big!! They have done a bunch of adjustments but still don’t fit right as they make me look like I have “ buck” teeth in front!! I am very upset and displeased so far. I am going back again on Tuesday and will tell them I want them completely redone!! So we shall see what takes place. But I am very disappointed at this stage of the game. I thought I would have a nice smile by now.

PatriciaPlease hang in and do not have a nervouse break down. If your insurance will cover a therapist maybe you should take advantage of that perk and talk it through with someone

So you paid $1,000 and did your insurance company pay anything toward theses Temps

Yes tell your dental place that every one tells you your teeth look terrible and they do not fit in your mouth

You are right about Debi she knows a lot about denturesDoes she live in the same town or state as you??Even though it is the same company I think each state has their own group but ask Debi about that

Debi loves Russell Klein mail order dentures which are much less money and you might want to ask her about that and maybe they would work for you

No matter what you do you should still try to get an adjustment either having your original denture place make new dentures or give you some kind of refund These temps are useless to you as you are unable to wear them. You also want to solve this bone and gum problem

It now sounds like you are becoming a very savy consumer and one way or another you will figure out what is best for youWe want to know how this is going to resolve for you because we are a learning blog and do learn from each other

Keep us updated and we certainly hope that you start getting everything taken care of. Improvements are on the horizonBarbara

Barbara my insurance paid for extractions but nothing towards a denture so I have that to fall back on Im not sure where Deb lives, Russell Kline is an option if affordable will not make the horseshoe for me, and I have been in contact with russell the whole thing is sad I am on disability and anything out of pocket has to be borrowed so its a bit of a burden, but I need to be happy sooner or later, I appreciate your kindness thisnforum has helped a lot and Im glad I found it. My next step is to try to get the horseshoe denture to wear while Im healing maybe having teeth will help my state of mind

Barbara I know Debi has some Russell Kleins bit she did say that affordable made her a upper horseshoe and she shpwed me pics we messaged a week ago, I contacted J O 's and never heard back. I am hoping affordable will help me my friend went to the one near me and the dentist there has excellent reviews .I sent them a message so I am hopinh to hear from them during business hours tomorrow. Im even willing to agree that they are not responsible for me having to use a soft liner or adhesives aith the upper , so keep your fingers crossed that they call me tomorrow and can help me asap.