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If anything, it just shows that their dedication to the craft is unending. Now, if people here had one iota of compassion and gave a company like AV123 at least several years to figure out how their products worked, then, dear sir, they would be rewarded; rewarded with a working manual. One must give them props for that. I...I...just don't...

I predict in the year 2015 they will release the slave workers from captivity and let them see their loved ones. I also predict that within 20 years they would have honed their abilities as world class speaker/subwoofer designers and release a truly functional product with a 100% complete manual. I'll offer my services in that department but I don't come cheap.

Thing is, people need to give a company time...then and only then will they be rewarded. Oh my, the rewards...

I just watched all of them. I don't care what anyone else says, that's some funny stuff. I can't stop laughing... brilliant!
Very enlightening and much more entertaining than reading any posting about the guy.

"For deep bass, the listener is not really listening to the speaker, but rather, is listening to the room as it is being played by the speaker."JuicyDoggie Jabber

I noticed on this RMAF page that Emerald Physics is listed as being from Broomfield CO (Schifter's home town at the time it all hit the fan). On their web page, they say:

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We now have a showroom in Broomfield, Colorado 80020 where we make the speakers. Multiple complete systems are on display. Auditions are available with appointment. Call me at xxx-xxx-xxxx to set up an appointment.

I noticed on this RMAF page that Emerald Physics is listed as being from Broomfield CO (Schifter's home town at the time it all hit the fan). On their web page, they say: This all sounds very familiar.

It wouldn't be the first time that a shady outfit disappeared and then came back again with a different name. I remember one importer of cheap Asian pro-sound gear that changed their name every two or three years. Once they'd run their line of credit dry under one name they went dark for a few months, magically re-appearing again at the same address (also in Colorado) with a different name. This happened at least three times before they went away for good, probably with the encouragement of the Colorado attorney general.

To be fair, Bill, Emerald Physics is owned by Wally Liederman (Underwood Wally) who represents a variety of other companies. Hence, it's not like MLS has opened shop under a different name. As odious a person he may be, he is a very good salesman and a percentage of the monies he earns from his endeavors in audio related matters goes towards restitution to satisfy his two separate convictions. The more he makes the more go to the affected parties. He still has to meet with his parole officer and his finances are monitored by some kind of a White Collar Crime unit. There are many people who lost monies and received shoddy products that will never see a dime unfortunately.

"I've found that when you want to know the truth about someone that someone is probably the last person you should ask." - Gregory House