I think we're not going to see zen3 for a while (at least in terms of products, I was excepting then to give a couple of slides on it) .... On AMD's road map they showed Zen3 starting later in the year than zen or zen2, and of course it will be server parts first.

Honestly it makes sense, they are currently pretty limited on wafer supply on standard 7nm so likely a delay on getting 7nm+ out and it's not like they have much to worry about from team blue right now. The 3990 proves that.

That is one thing though, the clocks on that 3990 are much better than I expected, they are higher than any of the 64 core epic parts. I except some new records to be set with this one!

The problem for the 5600xt isn't the 1660ti, but the 1660 super which is essentially the same performance but quite a bit cheaper.

That said, prices will adjust over time. Vega actually became a really good value choice towards the end of its run (once the crypto boom ended) despite some pretty damming reviews at first.... No bad products, just bad prices!

I think the truth of the matter is AMD are hitting a bit of a wall on silicone supply so they aren't too worried about increasing market share right now. I'm guessing the gpus might stay on 7nm when the cpus move over to 7nm+ which would give them the capacity to sell more cards. That's when we're likely to see a better value option from them.

Yes after i wrote that i discovered that a 1660 Super is just as fast according to techpowerup benchmarks as a 1660Ti. I generally keep up with Nvidia's products but they really made a bunch of cards in that price range.

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I thinnk the B550 will have PCIe4 I heard it is the reason for the delay actually.. so here's hoping right.. I hope Asmeadia comes up with a cooler one maybe asking too much their.. but Asmedia is expected to grow their business 40% in 2020 due to AMD sales :

My guess is PS and Xbox will be using a custom mobile Zen 2 part since they use 15-45 watts which means it will be weaker then a typical Zen 2 core on desktops as it will have less cache but it will still be the best CPU in any modern console and for the first time in YEARS we will have a EASY to program beast CPU in a console dare i say it, this will be the first generation of consoles that actually have a balanced design not a massive GPU with a weak tablet CPU at best.

Thanks for the quotes- I have noted based on that a couple of news outlets have confidently reported Zen 3 based Ryzen is coming soon.... the problem is that isn't what Lisa Su said. She only stated we will see Zen 3 this year- that could be any Zen 3 based product and I think it's safe to say server is going to be first. If we don't see the Zen 3 server parts until later in the year it's quite likely Zen 3 on the desktop will be a 2021 product.

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Zen 3 for the desktop will likely be released on Q3/Q4 of 2020 based on latest news from various sites.
We can expect some insights on Zen 3 desktop on Computex.
Zen 4 will likely be launched in 2021 and the end of AM4 platform.

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