Islamic terrorism in India is NOT happening because of Kashmiri terrorism only. 1.2 Billion Indians are suffering daily Islamist terror as the REAL CAUSE is the NATURE of subcontinental ISLAM.
Subcontinental SUNNI ISLAM cannot tolerate other religions, and has practised genocide and forced conversions against Hindus all throughout the Muslim rule. It is the sheer size of the Hindu population, and the vastness of India, and occasionally, the military resistance Hindus offered, that stopped 'Dar-ul-Harb' from being converted into a 'Dar-ul-Islam' during the 800 years of Islamic presence in India.

Islamic political terrorism started in the Indian subcontinent with the KHILAFAT movement, in which rabid Muslim fundamentalists started rioting and killing innocent Hindus and Christians alike.
Their 'protest' was against the REMOVAL of the ISLAMIC CALIPHATE of TURKEY. Any sane person would pause and wonder as to what events in Turkey might have to do with India. Actually, this 'protest' was a 'front' to secure political space for Islamism.
M.K. Gandhi, ever so disconnected from reality, supported this Khilafat movement under a pipe dream that it might finish what started in 1857, and thus end British rule. The barbarity of the 'Churi-Chaura incident' jolted him back to withdraw his support, but by then, the damage was done. Islamist terror has been given political legitimacy.

The political legitimacy of Islamic terror was recognized officially by the British administration and Indian national Congress alike with Direct Action Day, Aug 1946, in which millions of Bengali Hindus were massacred by Muslims under direction from the president of the Muslim League - Suhrawardy, in Calcutta and in Noakhali. M.K. Gandhi's eagerness to secure political space for his protege, Nehru, was displayed in all its nakedness, with his shielding and patronage of Suhrawardy, and his recognition of the 'Two-nation' theory, a foreseeable fallout of which would be Nehru leading India, and M.A. Jinnah leading an Islamic state carved out of India.

The 'Two-nation' theory created Pakistan, thus legitimizing the use of riots, genocide, rapes and conversion towards achieving the ultimate Islamist goal - a state only for Muslims, carved out of a non-Muslim terrority.
One only has to look at the %-age of non-Muslim population in Pakistan and Bangladesh, from 1947 to 2013, to see its exponential shrinkage in the face of Islamist terror. Non-Muslims are hounded, raped, killed and converted , in a true reflection of subcontinental Sunni Islam.
To understand this persecution, it may be worth examining the name of Pakistan itself - 'Pak' -as in Land of the Pure. Indeed, in its pursuit of purity, it has practised genocide and conversion with impunity, all in the name of religious homogeneity.
Till the 1980-s, the Sandhurst-trained Pakistani military officer cadre tried to insulate itself from this poisonous mindset.
Zia-ul-Haq changed all that, by institutionalizing Salafist Islam in the Army, as well as in the primary education. One only needs to have a cursory look at the Pakistani government textbooks to see the venom they spread against Hindus, Buddhists, and anything non-Islamic. The level of brainwashing may dwarf the Nazi Sonnenkinder program when you consider the size of the population subjected to such a planned propaganda.

So it comes as no surprise when such a brainwashed soul posts a reference to '2 million Brahmins hegemony' in Kashmir.
Denial, vehement denial, misinformation and motivated propaganda are not only the state policy of Pakistan, but also, of any individual bred on the doctrines of subcontinental Islam.

The paedophile Muslim gangs in the UK and Belgium are a direct outcome of this mindset, that sees anything non-Islamic as 'Kufr' - a sub-human worth subjecting to any measure of abuse.

Creation of Pakistan in 1947 legitimized the usage of Islamist terror. This legitimacy of Islamist terror in history has set the wrong precedents everywhere around Asia and Africa, and has emboldened militant Islam in countries from Philippines, to Mali. India fights a million battles everyday inside its borders with those who have been emboldened by this idea of Islamic terror finally getting its political reward in 1947.

This problem started in India, so India will have to solve it too.

When a man sees a Cobra spread its hood over his sleeping child, does the thought of the snake's venom ever stop him from doing the right thing ?

Seems like a mindless paid blogger is back to publicise his ignorance.

Nevertheless, I wonder if citing wikipedia articles proves anything. India is where she is....and Pakistan sinking ever so fast without we doing anything. Just see, 'so called legitimately elected Pakistani government' just bowed to a cleric and agreed to resign. No wonder Pak army could do that repeatedly.

Forget N million 'forward caste / brahmins' you quoted, pls learn to handle 'ONE' MULLAH sprung out of nowhere. Is that Pak govt or a brothel? Anybody can turn up to seek pleasure. LOL!!!!

Any Tom, Dick and Harry can create wikipedia pages today. Takes nothing...talking about J&K..the truth and ground realities tell you otherwise. Its not about saving N million brahmins of J&K, its the Umpteen millions who lost their homes, lives, women, properties, livelihoods and spent decades living in refugee camps all over because of Islamic & Pakistani terror...And dude..well tried btw..to take the discussion elsewhere...you can spend time on Google, write Wiki, and claim to be self proclaimed expert but try as hard as you can.."you aint going nowhere..cos you aint got no gas.."

I think the Pak army & the ISI are not happy with the bonhomi developed by the political governments of India and Pakistan after the recent cricket series. They are back to their half century old business of being in business!

Created as a separate 'pure' homeland for all the Muslims of the Indian sub-continent, Pakistan has NOT justified its creation and the HUGE PRICE paid for it in terms of lives, property and the disturbed strategic environment in the Indian sub-continent. The 'two-nation' theory was phony and runs against the fact of peaceful co-existence for over 500 years prior to this theory's proposal.

In sixty years or so of her existence, Pakistan has become an 'international migraine', with several countries watching it anxiously, much more so than India.

Today, a Shia, an Ismaili, a bora, a sufi Muslim, not to speak of an Ahmadiya, is SAFER living in India than in Pakistan.

Every year about 500 - 600 Shia Muslims are murdered in Pakistan. It has been going on, at least, for the last fifteen years.

Their only Nobel Laureate, an Ahmadiya I believe, had to leave Pakistan, as did the leader of the sect.

Putting together this and several other facts about Pakistan, their self-righteous anger over Kashmir, based on the belief that they are entitled to the whole of it - they already have about one-third of it - cannot be justified.

This messy country has nothing better to do than be obsessed over Kashmir, turning itself into a terrorist state, flouting Geneva conventions and decent international behaviour.

Sadly, I do see it as likely that this terrorist state will be taken over by fundamentalists and thus will invite upon itself, a combined operation by several powers in the world to defang its nuclear and military machinery.

Pakistan is yet to notice the changed strategic environment in the world. Not even Iran wants to see Pakistan grow powerful at the expense of India. Iran knows that Pakistan is a colony of Saudi Arabia - the heartland of Sunni Islam.

India needs to work with Iran a lot more. India should try to parley between Iran and the USA. Let us hope the withdrawal of American forces from Afghanistan, will see a change in US policy in South Asia and in the central Asia.

I have several colleagues of Pakistan origins where I work. All lined up to get UK passports - some already got. And I generally keep testing their mindset about India and Pakistan situaion.

1. They all admit - Pakistan is no match for India, be it ecomomic growth or be it social development or be it political freedom. Everyone has a favourite scapegoat - Pakistan Army, which is true anyways. But I have known the fact that several of these 'Paki-truned-brits' often active in very regressive Islamic gatherings within UK. I know one chap - he has banned his son from visiting non-Muslim households for the fear of eating non-Halal food and hearing non-Muslim religious words.

2. When asked 'Do you planned to go back to PAkistan at some stage?...the unanimous answer is...'Bhaijaan marwaoge kya? (Brother, do you plan to kill me?) - do you want a bigger proof to prove that Pakistan is a unwanted baggage all PAkistani carry when living overseas.

3. I have noticed all Pakistanis coming together whenever they hear 'Islam Khatare mein...(Islam in Danger)' even it was said about Somalia, Nigeria or Neptune. Never understood the underlined fundamentalism. Personally, having read some of Kuran text they showed me....I come to believe that Islam is a very regressive religion. People, often intellectuals, say that Islam never teach violence or opression of women etc. make me laugh. It DOES promote all such things.

When all pakistanis have been a product of such prejudiced teaching, we can not expect any liberal relationship with Pakistan. Some of school textbooks in Pakistan are so venomously anti-Hindu that it is impossible for us Indian to expect that an adult who is a product of such hatredful teaching will ever be able to be open for peaceful relaship with India.

Majority of Pakistani army has be breastfed with hatred towards India specifically Hindu. So it is anyways bitter for them to accept truce with India. In addition, when truce with India means losing lucrative monies on offer its army, why would they advocate and work for peace. It is beggers belief.

All I want to say is, 'Pakistan is a pasture for Paki Generals'. They know that this pasture is gone if India and Pakistan find a peaceful co-estistance. There will be patches of relative calm followed by unnerving violent erruptions like this.

One Day in the Life of a Pakistani
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the Army’s one-day spending is equivalent to the running
year’s total allocation for education ministry, and the air-force’s per day expenditures far exceed what was allocated to the health ministry for running the financial year

How much is spent on the ISI, the premier intelligence agency, is anybody’s guess as the budgetary allocation for the agency is not included in the amount specified for the armed forces.

Its just the deviation from the Kashmir issue, and this is the strategy of Indi to just busy Pakistan so that Kashmir dispute remain a dispute forever. When you keep the emotions aside and just look about the basic root that created these complex problems the result would be that Indi has illegally sent its army in Kashmir. Indi army and govt know that if Kashmir issue resolved then no problems will be remain anymore. But why Indi want to do so. Whenever a person want to make the other's argument be uneffective, his just find the root of the argument (the assumption). But as Indi don't want to resolve the dispute so focus of Indi officials are always remain to the problems that are the conclusions i.e, the result of the Kashmir dispute. So I am looking forward a more sever attack on Indi because of the behavior of Indi on Kashmir dispute. If you are not able to think, then just imagine, when your beloved son is kidnapped by some criminals, and after more then 60 years, criminals try to create relationship with you together with do not give importance to the kidnap of your son, instead always blame on you and eager for more and new situations to blame you as terrorists, then now decide who is real terrorists. You or the criminal. Now replace "you" with Pakistan and criminal with "Indi", then write some articles on it.

Your knowledge of events in Kashmir is a testimony to Paki text-books. India sent troops to Kashmir illegally? Have you forgotten your mercernaries sent to Kashmir dressed as villages in 1948??

That is exactly what I meant in previous post. We Indians can not reason with you guys....!!! To call head or tail, you first have to recongnise that the thing in your hand is a coin. But you guys amuse me!!

Go back to your text books friend!! You study Harrappa as a token great Pakistani ingenuity....then there is a darkeness for 3000 years till your saviour Muslims to arrive from west to liberate you!!! AMAZING!!!! There is a saying in the region where we peacefully live n enjoy the prosperity....that an ilicit child is the one who is more keen to win over his father's heart!!! It is like Pakistan playing the Muslim card...the Islamic nuclear bomb etc with Arabs for their money and support. Well, if we consider that was 30 year old history, your people like Hafis Saeed etc. are determined to take Pakistan that regressive Islam propogated by Wahabi Saudis.

Friend....geography binds India and PAkistan together. We are a single cultural group of people bounded by high seas in the south and Himalayas and Hindukush....even Afgans emotionally closer to India-Pak thread than to Iran.

If you recongnise this...value this....cherish this...take pride in this fact, resolution to our problems will definitely evolve.

This Paki does his Madarassa Proud
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Paki Madarassas the production belt for suicide bombers and jihadis.
Pakistan maybe in short supply of virgins ( going rate being 72 per jihadi martyred)but will never be in short supply of suicide bombers.

Everytime the government is under pressure due to its own incompetence, there appears a border conflict to divert attention. The law and order situation in delhi and most parts of India should be higher priority than this manufactured broder dispute.

I don't see how escalating this issue would be of any advantage to Pakistan. I am not sure about India though. I only wish sense prevails on both sides. We all need peace, especially Pakistanis. We have already seen too much blood already.

Past experience showed clearly that Indian decision maker always eager for the situation to get advantage for it and blame on Pakistan. For instance, whether the situation would be of Dhaka fall, the Baluchistan conspiracy or Samjhota Express Incidence, Indian had blamed on Pakistan Army and Security Agencies. But reality came out with the passage of time that Indian don't want Pakistan to Impose anything that results to the settlement of Kashmir dispute.
But people forget what Indian Army has killed unarmed people of Kashmir that amount to 93800. In short when India make action, nobody willing to post against, but when in return when Talibaan React on Indian previous action, India show themselves the most innocent Army and Govt. Reaction is always result of the action. This is what Pakistani officials and almost every president have said that in order to eliminate terrorism, we have to eliminate the causes of terrorism in-spite of killing terrorists, because Indian did action, then Talibaan made reaction, after this if Indian nation would blame on Talibaan as Terrorists, that would make more excite the Talibaan, result would be endless war. So in Past we face Mombay attact, but in future we may face more severe attacks.

"Past experience showed clearly that Indian decision maker always eager for the situation to get advantage for it and blame on Pakistan."
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Blaming innocent Pakis for a genocide in Bangladesh, providing terror training camps, safer havens, arms and ammunition to Haqqani brothers etc,cusing deaths to US/Nato soldiers thru IEDs hosting OBL for close to a decade.....
Indeed there is enough to declare Pakistan a state sponsor of Terror.

'be-broad-minded'...rule applies to you. Some Paki like you has quoted 93800 victims of Indian Army in J&K. Wait for few mins...some desparate Paki would put it to a million. We really don't need Indian Army to add the number of deaths in J&K. Your capable bloggers are worldly enough.

The truth is - 1971 genocide of Bangladeshis is biggest persecution of any civilian population after world war II. BTW, the credit goes to your Pakistani army.

No doubt,a balanced report.Both the Pakistani and the Indian Armed Forces are trigger happy people in Uniforms.The brave(?)Indian Border Security forces find pleasure in killing unarmed Bangladeshi civilians regularly along the regions bordering the two countries without any fear of retaliation from their Bangladeshi counterparts.The peace loving people of this planet is yet to forget the little Bangladeshi Girl named "FALANY" who was brutally killed and subsequently kept hanging on the barbed wire fence for days together by the Indian Security Forces.What a perverse attitude!!
This time the Indians have apparently found their match.The Pakistanis have retaliated mercilessly.They killed two Indians for one of their own.
The Indians matched the number by killing another Pakistani.2+2=4.
The numbers may multiply.When will these killers learn?

Seems you are a Bangladeshi. Yours is a pipsqueak country that owes its creation (and continued existence)to India. Its best you stay out of this.
Cross-border firing and clashes is one thing, beheading a dead soldier is something completely different.
I am sure India will respond at a time and place of our choosing. Its time to remind Pakistan who is the top-dog in the neighbourhood.

It matters little whether one is a Bangladeshi or not What you think is immaterial.Bangladesh does not owe anything to India.Bangladeshis know why India helped them.History will judge the reasons properly in due course.It was a win win situation for both the countries.You proved yourself a thickheaded person by saying that Bangladesh continues to exit at the mercy of India.Bangladesh is neither Hyderabad nor Goa or Sikkim.As far as it is known,the Bangladeshis will never tolerate Indian hegemony or it's big brotherly attitude towards them ever.Any attempt to attack Bangladesh by any one will not only be repulsed but the attackers will be taught a lesson like China taught India in the Sixties.Do not forget that.
What the Indian Border Security Force did with the little Bangladeshi Girl is unpardonable.The Culprits deserve maximum
punishments.Beheading a Indian soldier is equally unpardonable.What happened in Kashmir border region may be called a Cross-Border clash but what happens in Bangladesh border regularly is neither Cross-Border firing or clash.These are cold blooded murders of unarmed Civilians by the Indian BSF.
Don't try to be a top-dog.Learn to live and let live.

Yes - Bangladesh is neither Hyderabad, Goa or Sikkim. These are all beautiful places with strong economies and vibrant culture. Bangladesh has neither.

Bangladesh is famous only for the millions of illegal migrants that sneak into India and spread filth and crime on our streets. "Unarmed civilians" from Bangladesh should stay within their country and not risk life and limb by crossing into India.

Maybe its time for you to learn to live with the fact that India is in different league compared to Pakistan and Bangladesh. Although we have a long long way to go before we become a global power, we will get there in a few decades while you wallow in self-pity.

The only thing Bangladesh can look forwad to is to be drowned in the Bay of Bengal as the sea levels keep on rising! Good riddance.....

Hyderabad,Goa and Sikkim were all independent countries occupied by force by India.These places are no longer beautiful.Racism has taken roots in these places.And the Indian States are being fragmented regularly.Next in line is Hyderabad.
Right-India is in different league.It's the only Racist country in existence in the modern world now.Inter-cast system in India is well known.Even the so called vibrant culture follows the racial lines.
India will never be a global power.Rather,within the next few decades,it is bound to be fragmented into a number of smaller Independent States.The past History of India and the prevailing nationalistic trend suggest this.However,you may build castle in the air.It is your right.
Millions of Indians have been migrating to various countries since long both legally and illegally.Many of them have also sneaked into Bangladesh.Such migrations is happening everywhere since time immemorial.Indians are no different.They have mainly migrated from the Central Asian and Middle Eastern Countries.Read about the origin of the present day Indians.
Bangladeshis are being butchered from time to time by the trigger happy Indian BSF inside Bangladesh.Time is not very far when the Indian culprits in uniform may have to pay dearly for their crimes.
Finally,if a region of Bangladesh drowns,a considerable part of India,especially the southern part of West Bengal will also meet the same fate.
Change your attitude and try to contribute to solve the South Asian problems if you can.Don't be a warmonger.

That is hilarious. Do you know how many days it will take India to annex your country if it really wanted to? But sleep soundly, for as far as India is concerned, Bangladesh is a non entity and we don't care about Bangladesh, and we will never willingly conquer that shithole of a country. More Islamic nutjobs? Do Not Want!

What is hilarious?You or your foolish utterances?Really?Then why you beg to Bangladesh for port and transit facilities amongst other things if the country is a non entity to India?Did you ever analyze why the
neighboring Countries including Hindu Nepal dislike India?Ponder on the matter before twisting the subject.No where it was mentioned that India wants to annex Bangladesh.Even if it foolishly wants to,it will fail miserably.Bangladeshis know how to defend their motherland against all odds.

CreativeMind, are you serious in claiming Goa and Hyderabad...were "independent countries occupied by force by India"? Name me one credible source for your assertion, please. If any, I'd see Portugal, an erstwhile colonial power (aided, as was Spain too, immensely by the Catholic Church) and now a tin-pot sliver of land not having any say in matters in a plot of land far away and long the domain of India. Ditto for Hyderabad. And as for Sikkim, their ruler had a say whether to go under China's sway or join with a democratic India that would respect his and his people's way of life. Last I heard Buddhism and the traditions of those in Sikkim still flourish, at no risk of being smothered by other "isms"--Communism, Hinduism, or for that matter, that most odious Islamism.

Going by your other comments I get the sense you are another one of those Islamic bearded ummah brethren for whom allowing others their way of life is anathema.

Granted India and its society has its many warts and blemishes. In some regards, I agree, India can learn from how Bangladesh (despite its poverty) has addressed child mortality, female health issues, etc. All that said, when it comes to freedom and civil liberties and many other factors relevant to quality of life, I'd rather live in an India than in Bangladesh. the uncomfortable truth being that in the latter, if you are not of the majority (religious) persuasion you are at risk of life and limb and possessions...a risk that is markedly less, if not negligible or zero, in India.

Kindly check news, BDR also has killed BSF ppl tied them to wooden poles like hunted animals and handed back the bodies during Khaleda Zia govt rule. Is easy 2 accuse India of being trigger happy especially when Bangladeshis infiltrate into India. BTW foreign borders of any country there are strict rules against illegal infiltrators. Millions of Bangladeshis illegally residing in India. Take them back b4 acting all high and mighty. Self righteous pricks like u forget tht while India gained benefits from dividing Pakistan in 71 U owe ur existence itself to Indian intervention. or else today u would be a bonded laborer to a Punjabi or Pashtun. Wht does Saudi Iran China and other countries do to illegal infiltrators? kindly check tht 1st before blabbering here

The comments regarding to Hyderabad,Goa and Sikkim are factually correct.Since you are supposed to have a dedicated Internet connection,you can verify the facts easily.Go to the United Nations archive to find truths.Alternatively,you can Google the words Hyderabad,Goa and Sikkim one after another and see the results yourself.
For your ready reference here under are some facts:

Hyderabad was independent until 17th September,1948.On this black day,India attacked and occupied Hyderabad State through military action which was initially named as 'Operation Polo' by violating all international laws. Subsequently,the action was renamed as 'Police Action'. Hyderabad was never under British rule.It was as large as the present day France.India fragmented the country after occupation on linguistic lines.The Telugu speaking people were left out for reasons best known to the then rulers of India.

Goa was the center of Portuguese India.It remained under Portuguese
control even after India gained independence from the British in the year 1947.The Indian Union kept consulate relationship with Goa till 1955.On December 16,1961, Indian troops crossed the border into Goa."Operation Vijay" involved sustained land,sea and air-attacks for 36 hours. It resulted in complete occupation of Goa by India,

Sikkim remained independent monarchy till 1975.It's subjects voted by plebiscite became Indians due to constant interference of the Sikkim's internal matters by New Delhi.However ,such a plebiscite is yet to take place under the UN supervision in Kashmir as was decided and agreed upon by all parties including India.India is yet to fulfill the commitment given to the UN.

It appears that you are one of the so called educated member of Saffron Soldiers.You have no hesitation to castigate bearded people of other religion.You should refrain yourself from doing this.Courtesy will cost you nothing even if you disagree with some one's views.I seriously resent your Wrong and untrue comments about me.Your sense(?) has played games with you.It is up to you where you like to live.People like you are not welcome in Bangladesh.

Checking news not needed.BDR did not kill the unarmed intruders.They entered Bangladeshi soil illegally to occupy an area. The rules of such battle were observed by BDR.BSF people were not unarmed civilians like Bangladeshis being killed regularly by them.Also don't forget that BSF people were in an armed mission well inside Bangladesh.It was a fair fire fight permissible under rules of the game.
Your other comments are disgusting in nature and as such deserve no response.

Oh, don't you worry about my not being welcome in Bangladesh, Creative Mind! I wouldn't want to go there...and know that place and its people aren't too welcoming of other faiths and traditions, even those of no faith. May they and you experience what your brethren do in neighboring Myanmar! and don't come crying for empathy when that happens, ok?

Coming to your references to Portuguese India...is there a reason why you haven't brought up Moghul India as a basis for Muslim rule in India? In case you blinkered brethren haven't informed you, the world has moved on...and democracy and separation of church and state, etc. are the norms for moving forward...and India has done that, if with warts, well enough, much...much better than Bangladesh or other countries where your Islamic brethren rule.
Isn't it a bit rich that you carry yourself with that attitude...one of preaching about the colonised throwing out the colonialists, the majority throwing out the minority, the liberal and secular throwing out the illiberal and bigoted...? oh well, why would you do otherwise when you belong to the bigoted and and illiberal and profit from that, and it is in your self-interest after all!

Dear Creativemind,
I am really amazed by your reply. Probably you are too young to have not seen the circumstances just before Bangladesh war. Bangladesh civilians were flooding into India die to the atrocities by Pakistani Army. India opened the gates and allowed close to 2 crore Bangladeshi refugees. At that point of time, India was not so rich that it can support so many people and so I clearly remember organizations supporting Bangladeshi refugees collecting money even from school children. I heard so many women have given away their worn gold ornaments for this cause. It is easy to say now that India did it to serve some purpose. What could have happened if India tried to stop all those Bangladeshi refugees who tried to enter India... more would have died in the hands of Pakistani army and you people would have been still in the hands of Pakistan. The bordering states of India, into which the refugees were allowed are still suffering due to the changes brought in the demography due to the refugee influx.

People like you can not accept truth.Bangladeshis know why the gates were opened and who were those people crossed border after March 25,1971.Such border crossings for saving lives take place from time to time every where in the world and the kind actions usually shown by the countries giving shelters to such refugees are always appreciated by all.India's actions in respect of Bangladesh refugees in 1971 were no different and the kindness shown to the Bangladeshi refugees by India are being and will be acknowledged and appreciated always by the people of Bangladesh.Be rest assured of it.
Majority of the patriot people stayed back to fight the war with the Pakistani Army.Your country intervened militarily only in the month of December,1971.That was also done after Pakistan Air Force Jets bombed the forward Indian airfields located in your country's western boarders.You ought to be amazed only for the atrocities being committed by the brute trigger happy BSF soldiers on the unarmed innocent Bangladeshis living in the boarder areas and nothing else.Sensible Indians are not supposed to overlook the hard facts even if the facts are considered bitter to taste. Sorry,unable to agree with your opinion in regard to demography changes.Those who have been living in the bordering states of India are Indian nationals and has nothing to do with 1971 border crossings by the Bangladeshi refugees.By the by,how old were you in 1971?

hahahahahahhahhahahahahahahahhaha indian migrated into Bangladesh??/?? hehehehehehehehehehee what for dude???? hahahahah you made my day dear....got laugh of my life...u bangaldeshi's are really funny...love you guys :-)

You are free to laugh as long as you like.You may not stop laughing till you are satisfied or get sick or discover yourself in that famous place in Rachi.You need not love us.Simply keep your BSF hounds properly chained.

It is a shame that external observation of few incidents generate so many as silly as passionate comments; learn from Belgium: since WWI the nationalist flemish complain of opression from the French speaking ruling class. Despite WWII, various occupations and various incidents over the years, it only resulted in a few fractured noses, a few broken windows and much frustration on both sides.
If I remember well, there was an accidental death around 1970 and something.
Please do not agitate hate, in brings nothing but trouble.
Respect the other part: there are families, parents and children, on the other side too.
How a politician can call for a "Nuking" of another country defies the imagination. That guy should present excuses. And flatly.

Watching Indian and Pakistani keyboard warriors bash each other is like going to the opera-you know what each side is going to say and what the response will be - its a tragic unresolved civil war between brothers who have so much in common but have allowed all the warriors set the agenda.
Was not Musharraf born in Delhi and Nawaz Sharifs family originally from Kashmir?
Letting religious bigotry lead the way will condemn the sub continent to eternal tension - remembering that there are more Muslims in India than in Pakistan might open a few minds.
Sadly the gap between the countries has become a huge business with its own interests who rush to the barricades screaming at any sign of "softness" (read common sense) between the two parts of old India.
There would be greater differences between the southern states of India and the Hindi speaking north than between the Urdu/Hindi states of Pakistan and India.
Sadly both countries have developed truly awful sets of politicians descended from the clans of wealthy rotten landlords(again they have this in common) rather than career politicians who might have some interest in real progress.
Until the bigots are set to one side this will continue, curious for two places led on the one side by an Italian Catholic grandee and on the other by an American-funded military gang.

History gives clear evidence that A great and famous Muslim Leader Sir Syed Ahmad Khan was a great supporter of the Unity of Hindu and Muslim but even he said a very famous words " Hindues and Muslims are like the two eyes of the beautiful girl who is just have married, but with the passage of time when the issue of language (i.e Hindi and Urdu) raised, Sir Syed Ahmad Khan said " I am looking forward a huge collapse between these two big nations of India (before partition). Another aspect is that Muhammad Ali Jinnah, the President of Muslim League and founder and First Governor General of Pakistan, was first a member of congress (Hindu political party). But there Mr. Jinnah realized that Hindu will never take care of rights of Muslim after British leave the region. So that friendly man (i.e Mr. Jinnah) decided to resign from congress and handle Muslim League. After the Independence of Pakistan (i.e after Partition) Mr. Jinnah said " we struggled to get and hence got this independent land "Pakistan" neither because of that we have affried from Hindu nor the fear of making unequal justice from British. It is only because of the order of our religion Islam." Finally Hindu and Muslims are differ hugely, even you just imagine Muslim eat the meat of cow, but Hindu worship cow. So these two nations can never be united. But now in India Muslim are living Independently because Pakistan has a nuclear power country. But before when Pakistan declare to be having nuclear weapons, world have seen many killing of Muslims by Hindu extremists, especially in assam and in many other regions even on one occasion more then 5000 Muslims were killed at the time when Bharti Janta Party was ruled in India, this was the time perhaps between 1999 to 2000. But after 9/11, and after the congress ruled the Govt. they became innocent as if they didn't do anything. Since then this party is ruling waiting for blaming on Pakistan on almost every sensitive situation. Indians have acted first, but now when the reaction is made by Pakistan army, Indians cry as if they are so innocent and did nothing.

Election of Pakistan are coming soon.Rulers are worrying too much how to win election,terrorists attack are increasing there is chaos in Pakistan,to win the election rulers must search some one scapegoat that why Pakistan increased tension on line of control and murdering solders of India. World must not take seriously this selfish drama on the contrary watch it as a entertainment.Scoundrel politicians can do anything for their self interest

I agree the Pakistani politicians are corrupt scoundrels; but they do not have control over the army such as to instigate a border skirmish over the LOC. Army as it happens, has its hands full fighting home grown terrorism on several fronts; skirmishes over the border is the last thing the army would want in such a scenario. One cannot say for sure; but reading between the lines, such a scenario can only suit Indian interest.

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Kargil affords a perfect example of the value of human life in Pakistan.
Pakistani soldiers were sent in the cover of darkness to occupy Kargil heights 10 kms inside Indian territory disguised as Mujahedeens.

Once discovered and subjected to severe Indian pounding, these soldiers were simply left to die....in order to sustain the myth that these were not Pakistani soldiers.

Here is a country that committed a genocide in its own Eastern Wing...East Pakistan. Here is a country that leaves its own soldiers to die and then refuses to claim the dead bodies.
Here is a country that is mounting a genocide in Baluchistan...where mutilated dead bodies are found every morning on the streets.

So is it any surprise that they committed beheadings of Indian soldiers? Apparently there is a cash award waiting anyone returning with the head of an Indian soldiers.

Past experience showed clearly that Indian decision maker always eager for the situation to get advantage for it and blame on Pakistan. For instance, whether the situation would be of Dhaka fall, the Baluchistan conspiracy or Samjhota Express Incidence, Indian had blamed on Pakistan Army and Security Agencies. But reality came out with the passage of time that Indian don't want Pakistan to Impose anything that results to the settlement of Kashmir dispute.

Both sides are trying to score points and playing games. The crux of the matter is that Kashmir is an occupied land and the inhabitants are suffering the pangs of hunger and brutality.Both sides should get out and let the Kashmiris decide their fate.This problem is a thorn in their relationships and let the Westrens Solve this who have created the problem and keep it ignited. Has it become another Palestine or northern Ireland? Both issues can be resolved amicably; if there is a will and honesty.

There are powerful political & military interest in India who do not want good relations. These same interests want to neutralize Pakistan and have been trying to do this for many decades. This current episode in Kashmir is another effort by that same mindset to destabilize the region.

Peace should return to LOC. But India has suffered a lot because of wrong policies of Nehru. Every one knows that Pakistan was the brain child of Gandhi and Nehru. It was founded on Hindu and Hindustan-hate.
Three wars and continuous inflow of terrorists across the border have caused a lot of loss of lives. Now the unprovoked brutal killing of our two army men on the border indicates that Pakistan has failed to control terrorism and can still be seen as a haven for anti human forces.

I was born at Lahore and have many friends. There is no hatred in my mind of Pakistan although I think both India and Pakistan should have formed a federal structure rather than mindless partition as large Muslims still live in India and with peace. We have both External Affairs Minister and CM of Kashmir who are Muslims.Pakistan has been in turmoil for one reason or the other and its economy is in worst shape but for US aid. Its intellectuals should at least be honest and fair to acknowledge that 26/11 attack on India was unprovoked and nothing has been done to bring the culprits to book. Kashmir terrorist are sponsored. Now taking the head of a soldier away after killing him is virtually a challenge to the self respect of a nation. Why it is not condemned and guilty nabbed? Pakistanis, most of them Hindu converts, are our own and we expect some fair play and justice from people if not government.If Pakistan army plays havoc with two countries wisdom they should meet exemplary retribution.

(1) Tjhe 24 million Hindus Killed off - well after partition
(2) The 4 million bangladeshi killed off in 71
(3) The people of mumbai
(4) 400,000 sikhs/hindus/jains killedd off in Kashmir at their instigation.

A federation of Muslim-majority provinces was what the Muslims of South Asia (including Jinnah, the founder of Pakistan) wanted but the Hindu-dominated Congress was not willing to give up any powers. Fed up by that rigidness the Muslims eventually had no option but to choose from either a Hindu-dominated India in which even the "secular" Congress was not willing to share power or go for an independent country which is Pakistan.

Thank you for the insight, It is always interesting to know what history books tell on the other side of the border. Our history books put this differently.For instances, Going by the underlying motives that drives history books,I am sure your history books have not stated that for whom Gandhi(father of modern India & one of the most influential figures in Congress. though officially not a member) took the bullets just after the Independence?

Hint: Not for India (let alone the hindus or any other sectarian grouping).

In any case, Federation idea is a dead horse now, so no point harping over it. Pakistan of 1940s is not the Pakistan of 21st century, nor is India the same. Better one moves away from the bloody partition history and start living in reality. Applies for you as well as other posters here.

Yes, but they all should have left India when Partition was on relegious lines. I am not sure Pakistan will ever find peace, but at least India would have got. You know why Indian dont want anything to do with Pakistan! Well no body wants a begger as neighbour.

There is an important issue here - a single one - which can be taken care of by the two countries, even as they continue to fight over Kashmir.

Both India and Pakistan capture and imprison each other's soldiers.

They should respect GENEVA CONVENTIONS in regard to prisoners of war. These conventions apply to ALL combatants in any war-like situation - IRRESPECTIVE of religion, caste, rank or other considerations of the combatants.

As in India's Defence Academies, I imagine, in Pakistan's too, all ranks of the army are taught about Geneva Conventions.

My worry is, which I have expressed in my (first) post below, that Pakistan's army is over-riding international conventions through much religious indoctrination - mostly hate-filled targetting Indians and Hindus and Sikhs especially.

It is a good idea for India to seek the intervention of INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS AND BLUE CRESCENT organisations to intervene.

Both countries MUST BE OBLIGED TO REPORT the capture of any soldier or defence person belonging to the other army. The time and medical condition of the captured soldier should be recorded and forwarded to the Red Cross and Blue Crescent organisations.

Visits from officers of these organisations should be possible to check on the condition of these prisoners.

Rules and Conventions exist for the BENEFIT OF ALL.

As the ancient Hindus said it: "Law will protect all, if IT IS PROTECTED, that is respected by ALL"

[ For those who understand Sanskrit, in the original it is:

"Dharmo Rakshathi, Rakshithah"]

There is no greater wisdom required by Indians and Pakistanis.

Without LAW, says India's ancient political scientist, Kautilya [a.k.a. Chanakya and Vishnu Gupt] the law of the "big fish around eating the small fish applies, in turn this big fish is eaten by a bigger fish.. so on continues the law of lawlessness......

Or, you could call it the Law of the Taliban........ "he who has the gun kills the ones without a gun... after torturing him, if the victim is a 'kafir'!!!

But people forget what Indian Army has killed unarmed people of Kashmir that amount to 93800. In short when India make action, nobody willing to post against, but when in return when Talibaan React on Indian previous action, India show themselves the most innocent Army and Govt. Reaction is always result of the action. This is what Pakistani officials and almost every president have said that in order to eliminate terrorism, we have to eliminate the causes of terrorism in-spite of killing terrorists, because Indian did action, then Talibaan made reaction, after this if Indian nation would blame on Talibaan as Terrorists, that would make more excite the Talibaan, result would be endless war. So in Past we face Mombay attact, but in future we may face more severe attacks.