"declaring “this is a joke” as has been documented."
The origin of "this is a joke" reaction:
It has been reported that Israelis, not the military this time , looking to have some (cruel) fun at the expense of Gaza's population have been looking up the phone numbers of Gaza residents in telephone pages, calling them and telling them that their house is about to be bombed. But nothing, of course happens. In the end some in Gaza started to get sick of those jokes and when the military would call to tell them to evacuate they wouldn't be taken seriously, stay at home and get bombed.
Your country, sir, is a nation of sadists. Not that we didn't know mind you.

"Why are you focusing on 250 people many of whom were armed being killed in a war 66 years ago but not focus on 200,000 people being killed in Syria including many Palestinians????"
Simple. The post is about Deir Yassin, not Syria.

"many of whom were armed"
Lie. Not one was armed. Not a single shot was fired from the village.

It's a well documented fact that the village offered no resistance to the Zionist gangs as they had just made an agreement of mutual non-aggression and fighters were told to stay away from the village a d white flags were raised on houses to signal peaceful intentions something which was deliberately ignored by the terrorist gangs who nevertheless entered the village and massacred everyone except few who were spared in order to let them go and tell other villages of what their fate is going to be like if they didn't flee their homes. That was exactly the plan and it worked. Begin the über thug himself admitted later that effectively it was the intention.
Learn about your history and spare us the propaganda horse crap

Ironically, Hophmi, even murdoch's rightist media attack dogs like the vile Andrew Bolt admitted that Bob Carr was not anti-Semitic but rather "bigoted". They obviously are more principled and scrupulous than you'll ever want to be. Really shows.

Mayhem
If you cared to listen to what Bob Carr has actually said instead of going on a convoluted rant you'd know that one of his main criticisms of the pro Israel group is not mere influence but that they fund and support a far right position on Israel/Palestine and not a liberal Israeli one. He stated the settlement building issue as an example that this group support.

"I’m still a solid Zionist."
It shouldn't matter if you're a Zionist or not as long as you stand for justice and for what's right and if don't then your Zionism is nothing but a tribal, "my people right or wrong" and that's despicable.

"well you are an atheist so.."
Even if I weren't I'd still have a problem with the Salafis. A majority of believers, Muslims and Christians alike are sh*t scared of this anachronistic, undemocratic movement.

"That would mean a return to pan-Arabism in our context. No?"
I wouldn't have a problem with that if it were but it's rather pan-Islamic and Islam (not Arab unity/union ,a secular movement made popular by Nasser), is the (unique) foundational element of the ideology. I have huge problems with that and I don't doubt the Palestinians as whole have a problem with it too.

DaBakr
This defense along the lines of " We're not the only criminals. There are others. Why pick on us? " does nothing but make your case even worse. It's staggering that you don't see the stupidity of it.

"she said she has a monthly meeting with the Israelis to look out at the sea of international bodies, and threats."
Those are not words of a friend but a member of one team of two working together to defeat the Palestinians. What a surprise must this come to those naive and gullible enough to think the US is just a broker and an honest one at that.

I find it amusing that in Israeli judiciary it's much easier to investigate and find evidence of corruption than it is for war crimes. Maybe because war crimes , unlike corruption, are not a serious crime and are not investigated in the Jewish state.

"Rupert Murdoch (Jewish mother)"
Incorrect.
"Elisabeth Murdoch was born in Melbourne on 8 February 1909, the third daughter of Marie Grace de Lancey (Forth) and Rupert Greene. Her grandfather, William Henry Greene, was an Irish railway engineer (later one of the three Commissioners of Victorian Railways) who emigrated to Australia and married Fanny, the fourth of the 10 daughters of George Govett.[1] Her mother's ancestors were Scottish and English; one of her maternal great-grandfathers was a lieutenant governor in the West Indies.[2] Elisabeth was educated at St Catherine's School in Toorak, and at Clyde School in Woodend."link to en.wikipedia.org

See how the story is spun here and more importantly read, if you can stomach, the psychopaths' comments on it and you'll get more understanding, if needed, of the mental illness gripping this country.link to breakingisraelnews.com

If indeed it was a "Muslim/Israeli" conflict then how do you explain the fact that most of the historical Palestinian leaders are Christians? You surely have heard of George Habash, Nayef Hawatmeh, Wadie Haddad, Kamal Nasser (assassinated), Monseigeur Capucci, Archbishop Attallah, Emile Habibi, A'zmi Bishara and others from the Christian community in historic Palestine. Not to forget those who are/were part and parcel of the struggle and resistance inside and outside of their homeland. Hanan Ashrawi, the late Edward Said, Rim Banna, Huwaida Arraf, the whole of the Makhoul family and Raymonda Tawil . This is but the tip of the iceberg.
You keep talking through the wrong orifice and pushing fecal matter as facts when the reality on the ground totally contradicts your quasi-autistic approach to this issue. The clueless that you are reminds me of those other once clueless British officials who upon receiving mandate over Palestine from the League of Nations "were surprised to discover so many Christian leaders in the Palestinian Arab political movements. The British authorities in the Mandate of Palestine had difficulty understanding the commitment of the Palestinian Christians to Palestinian nationalism." But at least they changed views upon seeing evidence something you're incapable of.link to en.wikipedia.org
What, also, do you make of Sabeel, The Ecumenical Liberation Theology Center, a Christian organisation? Of Kairos Palestine, another prominent Christian resistance organisation? What of the HCEF (The Holy Land Christian Ecumenical Foundation)?
Look, dunce! Whatever happened to you at birth, start looking for help you'd be surprised what they can cure nowadays.

"an anti-Jewish cause"
Yesterday it was the grotesque Mayhem and today grotesque you! Keep playing this card trick no one has noticed the sleight of hand..As hophmi says, LOL..What a bunch of vomit inducing small men.

"he endorsed the notorious anti-Semitic book “The Wandering Jew”."
Did you read it, Krauss, or you're just relying on "notoriety"? BTW, you didn't even write the title right. And no, personally I didn't but I find this bit in your comment to be quite indicative of what's wrong, quite often, with the anti-Semite slander. All you need to do is rely on what other people are saying.

Taking the high moral ground, Dabakr? It was pretty obvious that they're mourning the death of their, how do I say it, complicit in crime comrades. But we'll take your peace-loving expressions seriously the day you denounce you gov't's charade pretending to negotiate for peace while still building more settlements and expanding the ones already built knowing full well that it's a major obstacle to any meaningful agreement let alone peace. You see, we're becoming so accustomed to your shenanigans and your monstrous aptitude for deception and trickery that our natural reaction is to laugh at the miseries, big or small, that come your way. Laughs do not kill, actions, like the entity which you support carry on on a daily basis, do.

It's a fact that the IOF strength is in organisation and in the vastly superior equipment and fire power, not in the determination to fight or individual courage or bravery which are the trademarks of Hizbullah fighters. When The latter are well equipped, and occasionally and increasingly they are, they make mince meat of the will to fight of anyone, IOF or other as has been demonstrated just this week in Yabrood. As soon as the Hizb set one foot forward in the direction of the city there were few rebels left to defend. 'Sauve qui peut' was the mot d'ordre..

"The not so nice part of the story is that the hundreds of fighters that fled, did so into Lebanon.'
According to Al-Akhbar only a fraction did, Walid. A huge part fled/rertreated to Ras Al-A'in and Rankoos. Another fraction to Fleita and Ras ul Ma'arra close to the Lebanese border. A fraction did also flee to Lebanon.

"Let me know when they recognize the right of their people to resist Syrian occupation and aggression"
Oi! Are you ok? What Syrian occupation? And what aggression? Last time I checked Syrian troops left Lebanon in 2005. You're either dumb or deliberately distorting facts thinking no one would notice. Either way, cut the crap. LOL.

"The notion that Israel or any Jew needs permission from the likes of ‘Ali Abunimah’ to do anything is laughable.
To think that Abunimah is asking for your (or any other, Jew or not) permission to write whatever he wants is much more laughable. It's hilarious.

"pro-Jewish comments"
We know very well that it's out of nothing but mendacity and pettiness that you deliberately substitute "pro-Israel" with "pro-Jewish" in the hope of garnering some sympathy..Small mind, little man.

“the God of Israel told Moses how to act upon conquering the land: he must cleanse the land of its current inhabitants.”
If only they did go out and say what seems to be the case, that "we're just executing god's will", but no! It's a two-pronged claim; "it's our historical home, a home that "god" gave us" which, in their pathological minds, absolves them of any wrong doing!

"I would like to see the process continue without even more outside pressure."

Negotiations between a very strong party and an extremely weak one are a farce. The weak is not in a position to make its demands met and nothing but submission will do. BDS is there to remind Israel that it's vulnerable too.

"why did the US remove the name of Abdul-Mohammad Golani from its list of most wanted men"
Yes, I saw that but I was very skeptical about it. Went on Google to check it out and all entries had ONE source and only one; PressTV. Not to be mean but that's hardly a credible source. But if you have another source it's most welcome.
"If I had to pick between putting my eggs in the hands of the Americans with all their warts or the Russians with all their empty promises, I’d pick the Americans just about every time."
Exactly the opposite of what Abbas (who knows from first hand experience with the US) believes/ The Americans cannot be trusted in any shape or form. 60+ years are testimony to this fact. When did the Russians fail to deliver?

Walid, did you read Al Akhbar's series of revelations about Abbas' efforts to find a peaceful resolution to the Syrian crisis by holding talks with the (early) opposition leader Haitham Mannaa, (proponent of a non-violent opposition to the Assad regime) in Paris and warning Mannaa' to stay clear of the Americans "they cannot be trusted. Rather open to the trustful Russians who, unlike the Americans, keep their promises" He added, "people think that I'm the Americans' man but don't make the mistake we made by leaving it in their hands".link to al-akhbar.com

Their Facebook page displays Meir Kahane's photo as their profile pic. In that page one can read the latest post that a fight took place between their goons and "Palestinian terrorists" (Stone throwers as per their own description!) in Hebron just yesterday:
"Juste avant Shabbath, affrontements entre des militants de la Ligue de Défense Juive et des terroristes palestiniens lanceurs de pierres à Hévron."link to facebook.com

"The SSNP"
The part they took, together with the Lerbanese Communist Party in fighting the Israeli occupier in South Lebanon cannot be underestimated. We talk about Hizbullah and we forget them. Unfair. And now they're unconditional in their support for the resistance. Long time gone since they started as an ultra-nationalistic party a la Germany 1930s. They're on the left through and through.

Walid, I'm not on the ground anymore but from what I gather from what I still read online is that there's a complicity between the fascistic JDL thugs and the police as the former are NEVER prosecuted for their crimes. Yes, they have training camps for young Jews in the country side of Paris. They also organise Summer holiday trips to the West Bank where they lend a hand in beating and harassing the natives. In Paris it's become a routine to attack whomever they deem an "enemy of the Jews" and any criticism of Israeli policies qualifies one for that. Their violence is incredibly vicious, sudden and brief. Libraries where pro-Palestinian books can be found are a favorite target.
And yes, they've been around since the 70s. They used to go under the name of Beitar, assuming the qualitative of far-right without much protest. .

'Fundi Judaism and Fundi Islam have a lot in common – naivety, misogyny, economic incompetence, jihad, jihliyeh, the notion that some book says everything you need to know."
Oh, you don't want to get me started on those ones, Seafoid, especially this vile strain gone rogue as on display in Syria right now.. My revulsion and disgust can be too strong to display publicly. BTW, I can't be sure this is a direct reason but the ranks of atheism are growing by the day and thank "god" for that. :)

"Can anyone doubt that Orthodox Judaism and Orthodox Islam are two branches of the same religion?"
I'd worry more about militant Judaism/Zionism than Orthodox Judaism that rejects the concept of a Jewish state.

“If you come to the land and an Arab has a house and you don’t believe in the Torah, who are you to kick him out?”
Reminds me of an interview with a French settler in the Nouvel Observateur:
"Without this" he said holding up a Torah "we would be nothing but thieves"
The irony is that he doesn't mind that not everyone is obliged to share his beliefs and that in the eyes of those who don't he's, effectively, nothing but a thief. Apparently it doesn't bother him. Strange thing, religion.

The NYT, I believe, is pressure prone and can be in the right direction. They, so far, had it good and safe kowtowing the pro-Israel line with no significant push back to worry about. Not anymore, too much noise is disturbing their goodnight sleep. Have to do something to stop alienating more Jews who refuse to have any of that. Give them crumbs for starters and let's see.

"they see only one side sufferings"
True that Israelis suffer too. Especially soldiers. Sometimes a breeze knocks back the tear gas they shoot at Palestinians and it gets into their (already) sore eyes ( they famously shoot and cry, the poor things). I can imagine the suffering.

"The 10,000th time? Israel has murdered 220,000 “Palestines”?"
Brilliant! Absolutely brilliant math skills! :)
As for logic, common sense, not so much.
BTW, where's Mooser when he's much needed. He would have made a jewel out of this one.

"Rabbo is a high ranking member in the PLO"
Always so quick to spread nonsense, troll? Here, so that you know your "Abd Rabbo"s.. You're talking about Yasser Abd Rabbo. The journalist/photographer is called Ammar Abd Rabbo.link to images.alarabiya.net

>>Maybe if I were younger and writing a PhD on group psychosis I’d spend some time in Hevron. In Hebron the Palestinians seem to have all of the dignity."
You see?! We told you they don't want to share. :)

"If you google for “Palestine” before 1964, be so kind as to post the relevant results."
Poor clueless Norman. Confusing the date the PLO was established and The Palestinian National Charter was adopted (May 28, 1964) with the day/year/decade/century the Palestinian nation has come to being. Staggering ignorance!link to en.wikipedia.org

There's something particularly malicious about this character repeating the same denial statements (that has been running counter all evidence provided by all sorts of sources from both sides) over and over again. We're in loathsome revisionist territory here. There should be a limit imposed on what this propaganda character is allowed to throw around mainly because it's tiring, boring.

"you are either a completely clueless dumb shit or a habitual liar."
Could he, possibly, be both? He never backs up his claims, keeps repeating what undoubtedly he doesn't believe himself as he has been regularly debunked and never answers to factual and well argumented counter claims. So yeah, a dumb shit and a liar.

Aie Aie Aie!
Doesn't surprise me a bit. Look..I was an actor in France (cinema and TV) for 25 years. Know the business inside out. All you need is a cursory look at the names of the heavy hitters, producers, studio executives and film directors, and you'll get a good snap of the state of things.

" Is this the land of the Jews?"
Since you undoubtedly think it is, you may have to explain why, how or when was it so. If you're referring to a spiritual and historical connection then please be aware that such a connection does not translate to ownership of real estate in the present and if you're referring to the biblical (and mythical to a significant degree) kingdom of Israel please be also aware that it hardly lasted more than a total of 150 years and some historians argue far less than that. So much for eternal propriety your childish question imply.

SodaStream will need all the help it can get. Its shares are going down on the stock market. The lowest they've been since 2012:
"SodaStream Drops Amid Sanctions Over Jewish Settlements"
“John Kerry made comments about the economic damage of the sanctions and this scared investors a lot,” David Kaplan, an analyst at Barclays Plc who has a buy recommendation for SodaStream, said by phone from Tel Aviv. “On top of that, they missed earnings without clarifying why they had missed earnings and what they plan to do going forward. The stock will be down until they figure out a way to restore confidence.”link to bloomberg.com

"I agree with you about something."
You'd be wrong Kathleen because, as I wrote in a response to him, she wasn't his adopted daughter.
"Soon Yi wasn’t his adopted daughter. She was Mia’s and musician André Previn’s. Her full name is Soon-Yi Previn. That’s another misconception about the couple Allen/Soo-Yi."

"he seduced his adopted daughter"
Oi! Soon Yi wasn't his adopted daughter. She was Mia's and musician André Previn's adopted daughter. Her full name is Soon-Yi Previn. That's another misconception about the couple Allen/Soo-Yi.

As soon as some author/intellectual of whatever notoriety has been shown to be, one way or another critical of Israel the first thing Zionists do is to dig shit about him/her in a desperate attempt to find materiel with a potential for slander and character assassination. Always. This is how you discredit every critic of Israel. It's a pattern.

“We believe at SodaStream that we have never lost a single customer to the boycott,” Birnbaum.
Not so fast! There is no one in my extended family and circle of friends that has been informed about SodaStream and who was very likely to be interested in such a product is getting anywhere near now..You're only fooling yourself.

"The vast majority of the public has no clue what this controversy is about; "
Funny that you use this argument all too often which only means that the less scrutiny into all things Israel the better it works for you and the happier you are.

Electronic Intifada catches The New York Post in a lie in regards to Scarlett's alleged statement dismissing BDS activists:
"New York Post reports on Scarlett Johansson SodaStream statement that never happened"
"In an article entitled “Scarlett Johansson stands tall against Israel boycotters,” the Post’s Benny Avni praises Johansson for her “casual dismissal of the BDS crowd,” referring to the movement to pressure Israel to comply with international law through the use of boycott, divestment, and sanctions.
The quote which Avni presents as a response to BDS activists is actually from the original press release issued by SodaStream to announce the deal on 11 January. Activists did not begin contacting Johansson or the media until after the release was issued and the first mainstream outlet to report on the deal and mention the existence of a boycott campaign was Israel’s Haaretz on 12 January."link to electronicintifada.net

Moshe Yaalon on the Palestinians:
"The Palestinian threat harbours cancer-like attributes that have to be severed. There are all kinds of solutions to cancer. Some say it's necessary to amputate organs but at the moment I am applying chemotherapy."link to en.wikipedia.org

Someone who states that "regarding the issue of the settlements, in my opinion Jews can and should live everywhere in the Land of Israel". Where did he pull this mythical 'land of Israel' shtick if not from religious scripture?
How exactly "non-religious"?

Moshe Yaalon may not be strictly religious but there's certainly a STRONG whiff of messianism in his far-right 'Greater Israel' ideology. And given that he's not in this repulsive set of dogmas out of religious convictions his case is made even worse.

"The Palestinians have no legal claim to Jerusalem, it was never theirs in the first place"
Looks like the nutter has made his the settlers' "day is night and black is white" strategy in revising history. And who knows, he may well be one of them extremist nutters.

"The Palestinians have no legal claim to Jerusalem, it was never theirs in the first place"
This blatant denial of history is demented stuff. Why do you continue to let this provocateur go on with his already thousand times debunked stuff? Kick this a00hole out already!

"I think the Gaza settlers were treated very badly"
Oh, yeah poor things..I'm shedding tears right now. Com'on Seafoid, I understand you'd have humanistic concerns for some of those "victims" but you surely must know of the depredation and cruelty they inflicted on the locals while they were reigning supreme.

Another thing, hophmi. If Phil is really a beneficiary what could he, effectively, do to right the wrongs? Pray tell. Not much, nothing. But for an Israeli, the possibilities to stop and reverse the genocidal process are infinite.

“And by the way, how is 1948 the age of decolonization? Most of the Africa was still colonized at that time. ”

Was still* colonised but no colonisation was started* at this time. Not the same thing, genius. If you really think of this as a valid line of defense then allow me to question your intellectual honesty, integrity and capacity to reason. You strike me as one of the least honest among all Israel apologists on this site. No small feat.

"I’ve said I’m the beneficiary, Hophmi."
A beneficiary but only retroactively and remotely as the genocide of the native Americans is an irreversible 'fait accompli' that took place more than 200 years ago. You or your parents took no part neither directly nor indirectly unlike every single Israeli today directly or indirectly involved in the ethnic cleansing of Palestine which, by the way, is still completely reversible.

Trouble in the Christian Zionists' fiefdom
"New Evangelical Movement Seeks Split From Pro-Israel Line"
'Figures with deep roots in America’s religious right have launched a quiet effort aimed at pushing evangelical Christians away from decades of growing loyalty to Israel and toward increased solidarity with the Palestinians."link to buzzfeed.com

btw, is it not interesting to note that the head and founder of the Christian Zionists movement is an ultra Zionist Jew?

A forgotten or ignored fact about Sharon's early career as a murderer of civilians revealed by Azmi Beshara
58 years ago three Palestinian women on their way to the village's fountain to collect water ambushed by Sharon and his soldiers and shot under the pretext that they illegally crossed the borders (unknown to them as they have always done so to get water).
Also in the article details of many massacres of civilians Sharon committed over a long period and never been accounted for. He always found a pretext or justifications blaming the victims..
Sorry but it's in Arabic.link to arabs48.com

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