They are high price because of the mat they required as well as the cool down required to make, so the amount of TG available a day is the amount of Alchemist that use their transmute for TG, and is limited.

That isn't the case. Otherwise Dreamcloth and thus spell threads would be selling for the same if not higher. As dreamcloth takes 30 volatiles to make and has a 7-day cooldown. But most servers you can't sell anything you make with them for more then 300-400 per dreamcloth used. Let alone trying to sell some bags for the true cost of mats, as that seems to draw out all the idiots trying to troll you and your "high price".

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I used to make 180g a day by just buying the mats for truegold of AH, and sell it on AH. But after the patch prices on my server changed, not taking the risk anymore.. Did do it about 3 months though ^^

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Originally Posted by rhorle

That isn't the case. Otherwise Dreamcloth and thus spell threads would be selling for the same if not higher. As dreamcloth takes 30 volatiles to make and has a 7-day cooldown. But most servers you can't sell anything you make with them for more then 300-400 per dreamcloth used. Let alone trying to sell some bags for the true cost of mats, as that seems to draw out all the idiots trying to troll you and your "high price".

This is rubbish. It's all about supply and demand; more people need truegold then dreamcloth, so it's more expensive. It's just the freetrade basics.

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I hate how blizzard requires this in so many items we can make. Its selling for 800-1100g a bar on my server. Now these new Blacksmith plans for weapons require 8 of them for each weapon.
Why are they so high priced? Whats the mats an profession to make them?

On another note however I am sure it will take awhile to farm enough chaos orbs for my BS anyways so the TG isnt the only grind here.

High demand, limited supply. The mats are decent, 3 Pyrit Bars, 10 Volatile Fire, Water & Air - Those Volatiles can sum up to a considerable price alone depending on server already. Then every alchemist can only transmute one (1) cata thing (volatiles, pyrit bar or true gold) per day. Proc chances for Transmute Masters are low on true gold. All this added to the previously mentioned high demand (as you said, you need 8/weapon...and so many people want them) makes the prices so high.

Just look what high supply did to maelstrom crystals...going for 65g on my server while shards still go for more than 100g (most people only run zg/za or raids anymore=> only epics to disenchant, supply of crystals rises)

Originally Posted by rhorle

That isn't the case. Otherwise Dreamcloth and thus spell threads would be selling for the same if not higher. As dreamcloth takes 30 volatiles to make and has a 7-day cooldown. But most servers you can't sell anything you make with them for more then 300-400 per dreamcloth used. Let alone trying to sell some bags for the true cost of mats, as that seems to draw out all the idiots trying to troll you and your "high price".

For what exactly are those large amounts of Dreamcloth required? FL recipes are waaay to expensive (embers) for the masses to afford, and 359 epics are barely worth it nowadays with T11-359 being available for JP.

on my two servers truegold is almost exactly around 200 gold more than the price of the volatiles and pyrium. Both servers also have 7 or 8 extreme impact hole punchers that don't sell too. i'm glad i only made 1.

That isn't the case. Otherwise Dreamcloth and thus spell threads would be selling for the same if not higher. As dreamcloth takes 30 volatiles to make and has a 7-day cooldown. But most servers you can't sell anything you make with them for more then 300-400 per dreamcloth used. Let alone trying to sell some bags for the true cost of mats, as that seems to draw out all the idiots trying to troll you and your "high price".

It's 5 different 7 day cooldowns though, so you can almost make one per day if you use them all. Also the chaos orb recipe has no cooldown.

It's 5 different 7 day cooldowns though, so you can almost make one per day if you use them all. Also the chaos orb recipe has no cooldown.

The point you missed is that the true gold prices are not high because they have a one day cooldown. They are high priced because they are in demand. And not because of the long cooldown. Also just because you can make 5 in a week does not mean you can almost make one per day. Also try selling a spellthread for the price of 5 chaos orbs, let me know how that goes as well.

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The point you missed is that the true gold prices are not high because they have a one day cooldown. They are high priced because they are in demand. And not because of the long cooldown. Also just because you can make 5 in a week does not mean you can almost make one per day. Also try selling a spellthread for the price of 5 chaos orbs, let me know how that goes as well.

Its a combination of both. Because they have a cd, it makes it harder to get a hold of them, and because they are in demand people are buying more than pre patch.

I hate how blizzard requires this in so many items we can make. Its selling for 800-1100g a bar on my server. Now these new Blacksmith plans for weapons require 8 of them for each weapon.
Why are they so high priced? Whats the mats an profession to make them?

On another note however I am sure it will take awhile to farm enough chaos orbs for my BS anyways so the TG isnt the only grind here.

Gah, your server has already had the prices rise? I'm still flipping waiting on mine. I stockpiled 80+ of these to make 200% profit when the prices rise but I'm still waiting for supply to dry up. They have hardly risen on my server so far (from 500g to 650g). Good thing though, since I currently can't play.

For people buying them, either suck it up and buy them, as you make tremendous profit still, or find an alchemist (or eight...) willing to sell their cooldown(s). Good luck with that, though (unless they are a really good friend/guildie).