I do, but that is the explanation for what you are seeing. Good example of what angles do is the Defender frontal upper plate, it's only 130mm thick, yet no-one with some sense will shoot that, because the angle it's at makes it near impenetrable under most angles (unless you shoot it from above)

I do, but that is the explanation for what you are seeing. Good example of what angles do is the Defender frontal upper plate, it's only 130mm thick, yet no-one with some sense will shoot that, because the angle it's at makes it near impenetrable under most angles (unless you shoot it from above)

Man, looking at my stats ... do you get a inkling that I don't know the game mechanics ?

Anyway, since no one seems to know what I'm talking about, maybe is a mod at fault. Damn it, I have to sort this s... again.

Man, looking at my stats ... do you get a inkling that I don't know the game mechanics ?

Anyway, since no one seems to know what I'm talking about, maybe is a mod at fault. Damn it, I have to sort this s... again.

Yes & I think you get a bit too uppity about it showing orange tbh. As you said, you know the armor values & should pen still when showing orange & the indicator does not contradict it, it only says *There's a chance you won't pen*, it is just not clear whether that chance is small or not.

So if it shows orange, but you know you can pen that easy, bar a penetration lowroll, take the shot.

This is also why providing screenshots is handy, so we get a clearer image on what is going on. Plenty of folks create topics here claiming tons of dubious stuff that often gets cleared rather fast when a screenshot or replay is provided.

Yes & I think you get a bit too uppity about it showing orange tbh. As you said, you know the armor values & should pen still when showing orange & the indicator does not contradict it, it only says *There's a chance you won't pen*, it is just not clear whether that chance is small or not.

So if it shows orange, but you know you can pen that easy, bar a penetration lowroll, take the shot.

This is also why providing screenshots is handy, so we get a clearer image on what is going on. Plenty of folks create topics here claiming tons of dubious stuff that often gets cleared rather fast when a screenshot or replay is provided.

Dude, go troll some other thread please. Wtf are you doing here, really.

I've read about it somewhere in the recent topics. A mention about the pen indicator not working as it should. Never bothered using it myself, really, so can't verify. But it might actually be yet another bug on the list of things the recent patch messed up.

Then don't be too surprised if the answer is quite logical & basic, as your description of your issue was rather generic as well. I simply tried to help you out, based on the knowledge i have regarding armor & how it works.

Iirc angles aren't taken into account by the reticle if you mean effective armor due to angling.

They changed it, it now does take it into account; an example with defender LFP angled & straight on; remember Defender LFP is uniform, no weird/odd armor plates.

Also note that if you target the defender UP it will show red in most cases (unless shot from above where it can show yellow/green depending on angle & pen), despite it having only 130mm armor. Can be easy tested in a training room.

They changed it, it now does take it into account; an example with defender LFP angled & straight on; remember Defender LFP is uniform, no weird/odd armor plates.

Also note that if you target the defender UP it will show red in most cases (unless shot from above where it can show yellow/green depending on angle & pen), despite it having only 130mm armor. Can be easy tested in a training room.

Yeah...seems they changed it. That yellow chevron on the lfp is a lie. I had problems penetrating them there with my IS-3 from less than 100m during our TBs, damn pen lowrolls on those tomatoes every time in which case i just charged them and shot their sides or face hugged them and shot the armor behind the drivers hatch.