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Introduction

Being a brand new tollway, it was inevitable that fixed speed cameras would be installed alongside tolling equipment in the gantries at various toll points along the motorway. Some speed cameras were also installed under bridges and other inconspicious places in order to catch out motorists.

According to the Department of Justice (Victoria), the speed cameras are located at:

Rise to notoriety

In July 2009, the Eastlink tollway gained notoriety from mass reports of motorists being fined for speeding - most of whom rarely ever had any speeding tickets in their life. Some were using cruise control - which is a much more accurate way of regulating the speed of a vehicle than manually depressing the accelerator pedal - and yet still received speeding fines, despite their speedometer reading 100. Some even used in-car GPS navigation units to track their speed more accurately.

This can only mean one of two things - faulty cameras on eastlink, or a combination of faulty speedometers/GPS speed readouts/cruise control systems. With so many motorists being fined, it must come down to the cameras - it is highly unlikely that all the different makes of cars (along with their speedometers/cruise controls) are at fault, at the same time.

Set up for revenue raising

It seems like the cameras were 'calibrated' in such a way that they work better for revenue raising than enforcing road safety. This does nothing to promote the benefits of eastlink (of which there are little anyway).

If you have been fined for speeding on eastlink, you should make a complaint immediately and demand the fine be waived. You might also want to organise a group of fellow motorists who have received speeding fines to start a class action lawsuit against eastlink.

Boycott Eastlink and speeding infringements

You have a choice - use eastlink, and fill up their coffers along with topping up the government's traffic infringement revenue.

Or boycott it, leaving them to financial trouble through inadequate revenue. Make them pay for the time and money it has caused you to waste. And here's another reason: Eastlink wastes your fuel.

You have one person to thank for eastlink being a tolled motorway - Steve Bracks. If it were a freeway, no one would be complaining.

Eastlink - get your act together!

News 05 September 2011

A policewoman who received a fine whilst driving along Eastlink has successfully contested the fine in court.

Senior Constable Faye Pitman was driving in a police car at the time of the alleged offence. Also in the car at the time was a work experience student, Erin McKernan. Ms McKernan was able to provide evidence that the speedometer reading of the police car was 98 kph shortly before they travelled past the cameras at the Dandenong bypass. Even more importantly, the speedometers of police vehicles are calibrated to within 1%, and as such, deeply puts the accuracy of the Eastlink speed cameras in doubt.

The result of this court case will set a precedent for all past and future speeding fines awarded to motorists who were 'caught' speeding on eastlink. However, police minister Peter Ryan does not believe this case will set a precedent, and he says, like all other cases, will be treated on a case-by-case basis. Mr Ryan did not rule out a possible appeal to the case, which would need to take place within 28 days.

Police association secretary Greg Davies believes the court decision to dismiss the case could open the floodgates to other drivers who received fines on Eastlink. Thousands of drivers who incorrectly received fines could contest them in court if they had a passenger who witnessed the speedometer to not exceed the speed limit at the time of the offence.

News 14 February 2012

Victoria Police Chief Commissioner Ken Lay has confirmed that the Wellington Rd cameras on Eastlink are faulty and thousands of speeding fines incurred through the cameras could be withdrawn.

717 infringement notices were issued during a supposed 4 week camera 'testing period' from mid July to mid August 2011.

Drivers who lost all demerit points may by now have already served their suspension period. Drivers who lost their job or income due to their licence suspension could now take legal action against the camera operators or Eastlink.

On 14 February 2012, Assistant Commissioner Andrew Crisp spoke to 3AW's Neil Mitchell. Comissioner Crisp admitted it was due to "human error". It was identified that during quarterly checks that the camera in question was faulty, and should be deactivated for further testing. However, the wrong camera was deactivated, and the faulty camera continued to incorrectly detect speeding vehicles and subsequently kept issuing fines.

Commissioner Andrew Crisp expects letters to go out within the next week to all drivers who were incorrectly fined and will be withdrawing all infringements issued by the northbound Wellington Rd bridge fixed speed camera.

The department of Justice is now seeking answers from the European manufacturer of the speed cameras.

January 2014

In an semi-related topic, the cameras on the Monash Fwy (between Malvern Station and High Street) have been switched on. Signs allude to the fact, saying Cameras Enforcing Now.

Comments

I was clocked at Detected speeds of 113 & 111 Northbound and Southbound on July 22 ,a very windy and stormy night,at Dandenong Bypass Bridge.I was travelling at 100 kp,all the way and didnt get any other fines.Strong winds must affect these cameras.But how do we prove this

Reuben Armstrong, Mon, 09 Jul 2012 07:14 pm:

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I just recieved 8 fines on Wellington and go 90km rather than 1000. It means I will have 16 demerits. How do I fight this (they all happened driving at 100-105km in a weeklong period)
Please any advive appreciated. It took me 4 months to get this job and now its under threat. It seems that camera had baan an issue for a long time. Its a a very short area to take a reading with (a few metres).
Reuben Armstrong
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Genny, Mon, 06 Feb 2012 02:33 pm:

Trickster - please tell me what happened in your case. I have a fine, incurred on 14th May 2011, that I am fighting. I don't speed, haven't had any previous fines and wasn't passing anyone else on the road.

Daniel, Thu, 12 Jan 2012 10:57 am:

I also recieved a fine in the mullum mullum tunnel, Donvale, Approx 600m prior to tunnel exit. This was on the 7 of Dec. i had my father in the car with me at the time of "offence" the spped limit was 60 i was booked for doing 52km and the permitted speed was 40km/h as the previous comment there were no lane closures or roadworks. I will be having this infringement Notice internally revieed.

siang zathang, Sun, 04 Dec 2011 01:32 pm:

i have received a fine for 40 kph hour on mullum mullum tunnel,nomaly mullum mullum tunnel is 80 kph hourand i drive with 76 kph,i had 6 peoples in the car,never over speed limit in my life,and i alway used gps,that night there was no road woek , the camera is fault.so,i must go to court

Trickster, Mon, 16 May 2011 03:51 pm:

I think there is a problem and I think I know what is wrong. I got fines at Wellington Road overpass. I wrote and asked about 10 questions related to the speed camera at Wellington road. I was happy to go to court once they answered my questions. Rather than answer my question they withdrew my fine. It would be hard for others to write the same letter because my previous Co made radar speed measuring devices and I am my own expert witness. Civic Compliance will not admit anything but their action seems to suggest that there may be a problem.

Jam it!, Mon, 21 Mar 2011 01:12 pm:

I too have become a victim of faulty electronics courtesy of the Dandenong Rd gantry in February 2011.
One northbound, the other southbound.
Cruise control set to 98, "detected" speed 108, "alleged" speed 105 on both occasions.
Why then, don't I get pinged by all the other cameras along Eastink if my cruise control is faulty?
Looks like a trip to the Dandenong Magistrate's Circus for me.
I WON'T PAY !

David Seymour, Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:37 pm:

I too have just received an infringment notice with a recorded speed of 115 & an alleged speed of 112 kph. Knowing how this intersection has created so much contrversy over the last year or more I travelled the whole way from Dandenong to Ringwood with the cruise control set just under 100 kph. Most other vehicles steadily overtook us for the whole stretch. STRANGE!

Justine, Wed, 16 Feb 2011 09:58 pm:

I have just received four fines at the d'nong bypass 2 northbound and 2 southbound, does anyone have any information about contesting fines on the grounds of not having received notification of the first offence, is it legitimate grounds? Or if any one has any other tips, it would be appreciated. The cameras are obviously faulty but it seems like that is irrelevant when trying to fight these ridiculous fines!!!

Jam it!, Mon, 21 Mar 2011 01:01 pm:

I too have become a victim of faulty electronics courtesy of the Dandenong Rd gantry in February 2011.
One northbound, the other southbound.
Cruise control set to 98, "detected" speed 108, "alleged" speed 105 on both occasions.
Why then, don't I get pinged by all the other cameras along Eastink if my cruise control is faulty?
Looks like a trip to the Dandenong Magistrate's Circus for me.
I WON'T PAY !

Allan, Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:50 am:

it's true the speed cam is faulty I have just received a fine for 109kms per hour on east link I had three people in the car watching my speed on gps and speedo I have a vs Holden commodore I have done 200k in this car never had a ticket I have checked it's speedo by three means and it's 2kmh,s fast on the day we were going 90 mms on the speedo and using cruise control the gps said 88 km/h my next door neighbor had warned us so we went 10ks under ...how could it be 21ks out I had cars passing me all the way to ringwood so they must have been fined also . if the camera is ok then it must be something in it's feild affecting it or radio frequency splatter this needs to be taken up by a professional in that field lets get together and employ one leave a response if you agree .don't be a lamb for the fox

I too have been fined for speeding. I can state that I do not speed and I am always aware of the speed I am traveling.
I think this camera also at Keysborough, Dandenong Bypass, is faulty and a revenue raiser. How can I get this fine stopped?

Sue, Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:56 pm:

I have been a very cautious driver and have a super clean record driving history with no fine at all in my life! I started a new job in Dandenong just end of August 2010 and so began using Eastlink daily. Within the last nine days, I received two same infringment notices for speeding under the northbound Dandenong bypass bridge at a detected speed of 108km/h! This is something very wrong in there!

jenni price, Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:30 am:

i just received fines from the keysborough one and am sure that i was not speeding, it is strange that it was the same camera both northbound and then southbound

Rebecca, Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:29 am:

I also recieved not 1 but 2 from that camera also.

michelle, Fri, 01 Oct 2010 05:02 pm:

i received 8 fines from this camera in the space of 13 days stating i was driving up to 18km over the limit (which i know i wasnt) im in the process of taking it to court as they rejected my internal review of the matter stating the camera was faulty. does anyone know of a law that states you cant be fined for the same offence without knowing about the first one - as this is the line of defence i am taking

I too have been fined under the Dandenong Bypass Bridge doing 108km/h. I strongly believe I was not speeding at the time as I knew the cameras were there. I have not used Eastlink since and unless they reimburse my money I never will again.

Yet another victim of the notorious faulty Wellington Road bridge. According to my fine I was doing 109klm - there was no way I was doing that speed. I'm a student, so don't have money to pay solicitors to take it to court and it cost me three demerit points!

Add me to the list..I also receiverd a infringement notice for doing 108km/h,on Dandenong Bypass Bridge on the 7/09/09 tottally freaking out, All i can say That this is very false..Reason being I am not one that speeds and cant afford to pay fines. My vehicle speedo is also out but in the oppisite way eg, if i am doing 100km/h..really i am doing 96-97.
I also am a very un wealthy person on a single family income and cant afford to pay fines and court costs

I too am another victim of the Wellington Road Bridge radar... had cruise control set to 100, was book at a detected speed of 110 - fined at 108. It is ridiculous! Fine was dated 19 September at 4.05pm. I was driving my parents home from a 90th birthday...
Just like Haydar, my speedo is also out - when it says I am doing 100, I am actually doing 95 (according to the speedo check near Geelong on Princes Hwy)... This would mean i was travelling at 115km/hour according to my speedo!! That is just ridiculous... If there is a class action, i would like to know about it as I too have limited funds for court actions!

I am another victim of the faulty camera at Dandenong Bypass Bridge. Alleged offence, 23/Aug 2009 at 108km but approx 106, fine $146. What absolute rubbish! This is so wrong. I too will join in on a class action.

Second time i have been fined here and i know i wasnt speeding,especially after using cruise control after the first time. But i had to pay both of them. Awesome, i feel like smashing the camera to pieces if only i could get to it. How do we get our money back.

Same as many of the above. As soon as I get on Eastlink I set crusie control to 103km, which I know is equivalent to 100km. I got booked for 109km/h (adjusted to 107km/h) at Dandenong Bypass. This means I would have had to have been doing aprox 112km/h by my speedo. I just don't drive that fast. This is a total ripoff - how do we lodge a protest or appeal?

I was pinged twice in as many weeks by the same camera. ( Wellington Rd ) detected speed in both cases was 108kph. Fined $146 and one point, both times.
This is highway robbery! I too, will join any class action

I got done on 1/08/09 at the dandenong bypass doing 108km/h alleged 106km/h. I was driving a government toyota hiace with the cruise set to 100km/h and am positive I was not speeding. I will contest this fine!!

Just received fine today for 26 Sep for 108km at Dandenong Bypass. Cruise Control was set to 100km and had a GPS that confirmed speed.
Is there a law firm out there prepared to take this on? Come On Scott Cooper! You have hundreds of people here that need your help!

Just received fine 14 Oct for 24 Sep for 108km at Dandenong Bypass. Cruise Control was set to 100km and had a GPS that confirmed speed. To day i went to speedcamera office to have a look at photo and the toll me they had alot of complaints and if you take it to court it could cost you up to $6000 which its BULLSHIT.

advice i have received is that everyone should individually (not class action) dispute the ticket by electing to go to court. The court system does not have the resources to handle every case individually and would therefore be forced to withdraw all fines. Apparently the Australian Design Rules for SPeed Cameras require a 10% allowance for error which means if you were booked at less than 110km on Eastlink - you probably have a case. I'm not a lawyer but it all fairly reasonable to me - only works if a large number elect to go to court though... (Check with CIvic COmpliance but I'm told Court only costs $65, not $6000, unless you are paying the other $5935 to a lawyer??)

Vic, Thu, 28 Apr 2011 09:03 pm:

Hi
my wife n I have been booked 5 times we paid 4 of them but the 5th one I elected to go to court, I'm going to take a camera with me n record 2 trips n see if I will get booked again so that I could take that as evidence in court.
has that been done before ?

I just received a fine for travelling at 108kmh on the Eastlink Dandenong Bypass Bridge heading southbound (speed detected 110 kmh), and ANOTHER fine (on my return journey) for allegedly travelling at exactly same speed at the exactly the same place but heading northbound.

I haven't any traffic infringement notices of any kind for at least 10 years. So I was very surprised to get a speeding fine.

But when I got two fines alleging the same speed at the same place, I thought there must be an error.

The number of posts here indicates I am not alone. I'll use this webpage as part of my evidence if I need to go to court as I'm confident of successfully contesting this fine.

I TOO HAVE RECEIVED A SPEED FINE I BELIEVE TO BE INCORRECT ON 8 SEPT AT THE DANDENONG BYPASS BRIDGE. I USE EASTLINK REGULARLY AND ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS SET CRUISE CONTROL TO 100 ON THE DOT! I INTEND TO PRINT OFF NUMEROUS UPON NUMEROUS POSTINGS FROM WEBSITES AND SEND IT IN WHEN I PROTEST MY FINE. ADD ME TO ANY LIST OF PEOPLE WISHING TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST EASTLINK!

I have just recieved two fines a week apart from each other. Both in the eastlink tunnels. The speed limit is 80 and my fines are for 88 and 87 km/h. Isn't that with in the 10% tolorence for car manufacturers. Mind you my car is 30 years old. I think I'll dispute it and see what happens. I've never been to court before so its a bit scary. Who would I call to find out what costs would be?

i got two fines on southbound two days apart on dandenong bypass for same 108km when i know i was doing 100km as was in my sons car.and these fines are at same time its not fair i haven't had fine in many yrs never speed, can anyone help what should i do I'm pensioner so cant afford lour

I got three fines in 24 hours, was with a colleague who wartned me about speeding on eastlink so was very careful. I'm assuming I should argue the case. First speeding fine (x3) for me in around 5 years, I think I've only ever had a couple in my whole driving career

I have had 4 fines from the camera at the weelington rd bridge. The first 2 I paid stupidly trustng the system even though I couldn't work out how I was speeding on cruise control. I am going to contest these 2 latest fines and any others I receive as I know I was doing less than 95.

Add me to the list...I know about the cameras so i always maintain a speed just under 100kph. Guess what....Wellington Rd bridge, northbound...108 detected and 106 alleged. Sounds so familiar, doesn't it. Is there anyone mounting a class action on this? If so i want in on it. No way was I speeding, there is a problem with this camera as we all know.

Yes I will be fighting this new fine which I should not have to pay. Same same Wellinton road Bridge detected speed 108km alleged speed 106 km. Something is very wrong as too many people are loosing points for no reason and there may even be job losses, family breakdowns ...do I need to go on. ALL FINES SHOULD BE ERASED AND POINTS AND FUNDS RETURNED. DISGUSTING HOW NO-ONE SEEMS TO BE RESPOSIBLE AND DRIVERS AND RIDERS SHOULD HAVE TO JUST WEAR THIS.I KNOW I WILL NOT!

Might as well add my fine to the list....Eastlink, Rowville, Northbound, Wellington rd bridge.......108km/h detected, 106km/h alleged......$146 fine. I to use cruise control at 100. ?. Apparently there was something on ACA or Today Tonight recently about these issues. Anyone see it?

I too have received two fines and yes on cruise control on 100km but fined for detected speed of 108km and alelged speed of 106. I received this two days in consecutive. What the.... But like good hard working people paid the fines. This is all revenue making for the Government. As if it is not already expensive to get onto this stupid Eastlink. Give us a break. These camera's are definately faulty. I am sure the people behind all of this never ever pay a fine......They really need to take a good look at themselves and their speed cameras. Why is it that no other Freeway has so many fines to their names. Maybe this is all a conspircy and they want US the TAX PAYERS, who are ready paying for it pay for it twice. GIVE US A BREA

I incurred x 2 fines 3 days apart at exactly 108 KLM being the stated speed late last year / Wellington rd & Dandenong by pass.

Tried to argue the faulty camera's scenerio Traffic infringment office wouldn't have a bar of it, went on to a plan to pay them back, in Feb 09 paid some of it, still some outstanding I guess not motivated to pay in any hurry as I consider I was under the limit & the fines false- I also stopped using Eastlink but recently used it again last month for 2 days only -sure enough got another speeding fine 109 Klm Keysborough northbound definately not doing this speed, I was still so mindful of the fines currently paying off --I can't see how its viable to travel on Eastlink with Faulty camereas -The way its going I won't have a licence left nor will many other people who use it. If anyone knows of successful precedent argueing these fines please post something""""" Cheers

Just received a fine notice for 113km/111km alleged, this is ludicrous! Cruise control set to 100 and I get fined? How many more will be turning up in the mail after this first one? This is a joke, I'm not paying. Anyone who is thinking of a class action suit, I'm in.

well i think iv out done u all here im from Echuca and have been workin down in melb for the last 2 months arrived home last week to find 11 fines in the mail i seriously thought this was a hoax all at the same speed 106 on the wellington st bridge they must have thought oohh here is dumb country person we will take him for all he has got well screw the bastards and there cheating camera,s they can come and get me and lock me up before i pay 1 sent

How can getting a speeding fine be regaurded as a safety issue when the levels are set so low that you have to watch the speedo more than the road ,watch the speedo more than the rear view mirrors . Caught for doing 106 kph as I came on to east link and tried to merge safely . Obviously this just plain revenue raising.

My husband just got 2 fines a week apart and again he never speeds and his crusie control set at 100km/h on the north bound wellington bridge one detected 108km/h and the other 107km/h so not happy because he was not speeding and we will not pay and again any law sute and you can count as in!!!!

Got two fines on a Sunday both by the northbound camera one at 117, the other at 106. Had the speed alert set to 110, since the car was bought and it's never gone off.

I'm a traffic engineer, so I checked the speedo on the car using the speed detectors at work. Speedo is fine. Sent a letter explaining this, got knocked back. Guess i'm off to court. What a waste of everybody's time and money.

I have had so many fines I am sick of them I got to the stage east link saves me heaps of time but I now get off at the bridges and go over them and re-enter east link again.I have lost my license like alot of others I have allot still pending court some of the fines I have they sent them to me six months after the event so you can not tell me this is not for them to make money.This all is bullshit!!!!!!!!!!

9 fines in 9 days, I have cruise control, and an over-speed alarm, how I managed to do 112 and not notice is amazing!! So I guess it's the bus for a while, we all know it's the money they want, so no way will I win in court. No more eastlink for me.

3 fines, same spot all between 108-110km/h. I have known where the cameras are since they built the eastlink and always LOWER my speed on cruise control as i go through the camera sites... Yet the tickets still come. Everyone should contest these as the courts will not be able to ignore the fact that everyone is wrong at this spot and that the camera is out.

I have now received two fines in october 2009 one on 10 oct and the other on 24 oct southbound on eastlink,keysborough,Dandenong bypass bridge both times i had my cruise control set to 90kms one of the fines said i was doing 112 kms the other one 109 kms strange as i have been driving on eastlnk for the last 5 months and have not received any fines previously

am not going not going to pay will take it to court
kalvin80@gmail.com

Add me to the list. I had my cruise control on at 98km. I have relatively new car and have tested the speedo always shows 2km less than the speedo reading. Northbound on the Dandenong Bypass Bridge guess what my speed was detected 108km. No way is this correct. I will be fighting this

October 4, I was clocked at 109 down to 107, I ALWAYS slow down to between 90 - 95 at the bridge because there has been so much hype about it, apart from the fact that I do not speed, why would I speed through there knowing there is a problem. I have had a couple of speeding fines about 15-18 years ago, I was guilty then, I didn't sook about it, I paid the fine and learnt my lesson. This time, no crime, I will be fighting this fine.

I've been contacting lawyers around Melbourne to try and initiate a Class Action against Eastlink, still in the process of chasing this up but if you're interested in getting behind this contact me at hodgson1@bigpond.net.au and maybe we can stop this maddness. The amount of money we've all paid out to Eastlink for what I am positive are faulty cameras is ridiculous.

My husband and I recieved 3 fines within 10 days of each other. All for the same speed detected at 109km alledged speed 107km. I wrote to civic compliance complaining that these were incorrect as my car had cruise control etc and we yesterday recieved 3 generic letters basically saying bad luck, pay them. How on earth to we have any hope of contesting these stupid fines that we cannot even afford to pay.. Then to make matters worse today we receive 7 fines for driving on eastlink when we are not suppose to even though we have a city link account. Even though Eastlink issued these fines to Vic Police after calling them they said it is not their problem it is Citylinks and Vic Police. That means we now have $1191 in fines to pay and no money to pay them.

Susan Smythe, Wed, 01 Dec 2010 07:03 pm:

My son received $1,500 in fines in two weeks, the first fine never arrived for weeks, hence he wasn't aware there was a problem with this camera, also lost his licence, such a rip off and money spin. The fines started the day after the huge melbourne storms in September this year. He also got the generic letter.

Is'nt this wonderful, that we are at least expressing our frustrations about these speeding fines.We all know very well , that these cameras are just money gathering devices for the coffers of the state governments.What beats me , is that we pay up.
Going to court is straight forward .What we have to do in the short to medium time frame is to compile a register with names and adresses of all of us with grievances and present it to the court as evidence that maybe something is not right here,that maybe the cameras are faulty.Remember we are innocent until proven guilty.Therefore , if there is a speck of doubt about the speed cameras reliability , I fail to see how a learned judge can convict us.
For the long term, lets do a class action .What we need is an organisator and we found him at hodgson1@bigpond.com.au(though I detect there should not be a 'au' after com )
I am going to email him, I suggest we all do the same.
Offence: Detected speed 114km/h at Eastlink,Keysborough,Southbound, Dandenong Bypass bridge.-BULLSHIT -The car was on cruise control all the way!

Lynnie, Fri, 04 Nov 2011 02:53 am:

Hi Robert, yes I am a victim of the stupid faulty speed camera on east link southbound & northbound! The email you mentioned above, can he help us? I recently got pulled over by police and found out I lost my license. Now waiting to go court which maybe lead me to jail! I really need help cause I have been fined so many times and I always pay my fines but I recently just went through all the records of my fines and realized I have been robed for my driver license points and money!

I received a speeding fine last night in the mail, and surprise surprise the Wellington Road Bridge camera clocked me at 108, alleged speed 106. It sounds like a bad record having read all of the previous comments. I am going to print this page and send it back with a letter as I was NOT driving over 100kmh. If my letter is rejected I will gladly go to court.

I am sitting here going through about 8 fines all for either wekkington road or keysbourough bypass, some have even had court proceedings issued on them, with extra charges I too will be sending this page with a letter. I would be more than happy to go to court

I TOO, have received a speeding fine for travelling Dandenong bypass bridge. I am truly amazed as I paid particular attention to my speed because we had a fine for the same only weeks before, same place ,same detected speed. AMAZING!!! I TOO WILL PRINT OFF THIS PAGE AND SEND A LETTER

Was book a total of 9 times on eastlink between Oct 08 and Jan 09. Each time for 10km/h over speed limmit. I ride a motorcycle the same one for 8 years and have not been pinged by a fixed speed camera before. I check my speedo with 2 diffrent 12 channel GPS units and it is 99km/h @ 100km/h on GPS. Ripped off!

Booked doing 107km/h on 25 Oct 09.Been travelling Eastlink since it opened in July '08 I know the speed camera @ Wellington Road & never speed but still got caught.Just rang CCV after I sent a letter in & they have removed the fine.Write to CCV with plenty of time left before due date stating your case.

Had contract work for three weeks between September and October and recieved four fines all at about 107 km and all at the Wellington Road bridge. Prior to that I had not lost any points. Of a morning used Nepean Highway, no problem. Will not use Eastlink again.

I am so mindful of these cameras I purposes slow down going under any bridges or tolls so that Im so far under there is no way, Rarely use eastlink but out of necessity, and never go over my speed, Just got a fine under Dandenong bypass bridge 27 Nov.detected speed 108KLMs fined for 105 I was not traveling at this speed absolutely NOT, I will take this to court and say my peace, EXPENSIVE to travel on, low numbers using this EXPENSIVE PRIVATELY CONSTRUCTED TOLL WAY, REVENUE!!!!!! This is a very straight safe road so how could they be concerned about speed & our safety, AN ABOMINATION OF OUR RIGHTS!

I too recently received an infringement notice:
Place of the offence: Eastlink, Keysborough, Southbound, Dandenong Bypass Bridge. Detected speed 108 alleged 105. I use Eastlink every weekday morning and evening and sometimes on weekends.
Earlier last week my wife also received an infringement notice for exactly the same location with similar speedometer values. I always use cruise control on Eastlink set at 100 on the dot. In disgust at receiving these fines I did my homework and found the below:
Official Warning
Fines issued by Victoria Police for traffic offences
Victoria Police has the discretion, upon review, to withdraw an infringement notice issued for a traffic offence and issue an official warning in its place.
Generally, an official warning will not be given for red-light, mobile phone, seatbelt or other serious road safety offences, unless the existence of an emergency situation can be proved.
However, you can still apply to Victoria Police for an internal review of its decision. The contact details will be on the infringement notice.
Each application for an official warning is judged on a case-by-case basis.
If you have been issued with a speeding fine for driving less than 10kph over the speed limit, you can apply for an official warning if you:

• Hold a current driver licence (includes probationary licence holders but does not include a learner driver permit holder)
• have not been issued with a speeding, other traffic fine or official warning within the previous two years (if you have an interstate licence, you will need to provide evidence of your driving record - contact your local road traffic authority for this information)
• do not deny that you committed the offence.
Fines issued by agencies
All agencies have the discretion, upon review, to withdraw an infringement notice and issue an official warning in its place.
Each application for an official warning is judged on a case-by-case basis.

If this helps one other person, I have not wasted my time by posting it.

get 2 tickets both on 108 downgraded to 106 probably 2 weeks apart. I always use cruise control and my speedo is always 5km less than the actual speed. This is confirmed by my GPS and one of those overhead speed detecting camera on the hume hwy. Can we do something? The first ticket was a bt of shock but I think I might be really speed up. Then the second one comes through with same speed. Started to think if the camera is OK or not. Now it seems I'm not the only one. As suggested by Roger, I will write to them for a official warning instead. However I've paid already so the chance is really low, I believe

Been done twice in as many months for doing 86 in the 80 zone leading into the Mullum Mullum tunnel. I do the same trip every day, use cruise control and know I wasn't speeding. There is something very dodgy about the set-up around that tunnel

I received my fine dated the 28th November for alleged 106kms detected speed 109kms Eastlink Northbound Wellington Road Bridge and was sure that I was doing under 100kms. I couldn't believe it till I read this page.

Just received first ever traffic fine in 32 years of driving. Dated 7 Nov Wellington Road camera, northbound, Alleged speed 108k Detected speed 110k and I know for sure I wasn't speeding. Reading these comments it's incredible that our stories are so similar, the speeds similar. How can Eastlink/Vic Polic defend this? It is an outrage. Maybe we should all hand in our e-tags in a protest march to their headquarters. Losing a few thousand customers so publicly might just shake them out of their complacency.

I too stupidly paid a fine which I received on 4th October 2009. I know I wasnt doing over 100, It got me at 107kms. I didnt question it. Now I find out all these disputes! Lost a point which is frustrating.

i have received 7 fines in total now...6 at wellington rd bridge and 1 at dandenong bypass. i don't usually travel the wholelength but the one time i do i have been fined. This is absolute crap...if there is any kind of class action I too would like to add my fines in!!! I have only ever had 1 speeding fine in my life and i took it for someone else!!!

I have been driving for over 20 years, moved from Sydney to Melbourne and got 3 speeding fines in 1 month, all at the same time of day at exactly the same place, Wellington Road Bridge. I KNOW THAT I WAS NOT SPEEDING. I do the same speed each time I travel that road and I always go under 100. I am a single mum struggling to make ends meet. I have paid the fines but I am fighting it. WHY CAN WE NOT DO SOMETHING TO CHANGE THIS?

SCAM, SCAM, SCAM. State Coffers Are Mounting.
Same here, I never speed, and I couldn't work out how I could possibly have a speeding ticket at Wellington Rd, I've only ever had one ticket for speeding in my whole life and that was for doing 104 in a 100 zone, which makes me wonder if that was wrongly detected as well. It's a total scam

If this government gets re-elected, it will be a miracle, they are scum. They should never have taken my fine payment from me without telling me that there was probably a problem with the speed camera.

Got a nice Xmas/New Years present in the mail Tuesday 29th December, like everyone else 108klm detected, charged 106klm for early december. I know the camera's are there, got done for exactly same about 8mths ago. And guess what? TODAY I receive another EXACTLY same!!!! Same place!!! AND i've been intentionally slowing down to 80klm under the bridge!!!
Off will go a letter to member of parliament!!

east link INFRINGEMENT notices are a rip off - WHY cannot cameras and speed devices be FIXED and indicate ONLY actual speed particularly around WELLINGTON ROAD EXIT - this is an expensive RIP OFF against local motorists - I never exceed 100 kph BUT TRAFFIC NOTICES come with monotonous frequency

Just recieved a fine also for the dandenong bypass camera.
According to etag records my entry point onto eastlink combined with distance travelled and time of fine makes me cruising down the road in excess of 130kmph WITHOUT getting picked up by the wellington bridge camera!?

I have just received 3 infringement notices all from the Wellington Rd camera - my parter was driving at the time and just a few weeks ago received a letter from Vicroads congratulating him for his wonderful driving record over the past 3 years. I am absolutely certain he was not speeding. we don't have the time to dedicate to a day in court however i found some very interesting information on the Victoria Police website regarding multiple fines from the same camera location, if you have copped multiple fines within a short period of time, you may apply to have the subsequent fines withdrawn, so in our case, we recieved one fine for the 9th of Dec and then TWO more on the 18th - as we hadn't received the first infrigement notice when the second and third were issued, we can apply to have the second and third fines withdrawn. it's worth a try especially for those who are time poor and can't get to court.

I got my second fine southbound at the Dandenong bypass saying my alleged speed was 107km/h but I know where that camera is and I'm always extra careful driving under that bridge especially after thew 1st fine it doesn't seem right that i got another speeding fine there when im so careful.

108km/h Keysborough, Northbound, Dandenong Bypass. On cruise in new Ford Ute (Acurate Speedo showing 100km/h), TOM TOM showing 100km/h. Pass at least 6 other cameras a day on cruise at 100km/h with no fines for over 3 years (do a lot of driving).

Simple answer. It's not a question of if but when with this camera. IT IS OBVIOUSLY FAULTY.

I to like Emma's partner above was recently sent a letter to congratulate me on my great driving record over the past 3 years, what a joke.

The Police website is also a joke as I had a look at their statistics for Eastlink Cameras but it does not tell you at exaclty what speed drivers where detected at, just a general range (108 seems to be very common). So I thought I would e-mail them to ask but guess what, you can't. There is no "if you don't agree" link.

By the way, I also have a Navman that shows the same speed as the TOM TOM.

My name is Michael Kuzilny. I am a former policer officer turned Lawyer. I am a traffic law expert in traffic law, and have been working in the criminal justice system for over 25 years. MK LAW. Collins St Melbourne.

I don't think these stupid traffic cameras and speed measuring devices are faulty from time to time, I know they are.

Years ago when I was a traffic cop, often I found problems with faulty radars etc that weren't correctly calibrated, or that were just plain simply faulty. I would report the incident to my superiors, and not use the evidence for the people that were booked - because it was faulty evidence. How many times these days do we hear the government admitting that a certain speed camera was faulty? There are now thousdands of these camera's used all over Victoria,and the government is cleaning up.
It is quite a disgraceful situation, that someone in power does not put their hands up and admit that we have made a massive mistake by fining so many Victorians,when really a lot have not committed any offence at all.
As a Melbourne traffic lawyer, I give free advice to Victorians, and I can honestly say I get 100's of calls every week from good drivers who have been booked by speed camera's, when they were not even speeding. So many people tell me every week, that they used both cruise control and GPS, and set the cruise control to 99. (under the speed limit) They then inform me that they are receiving traffic infringement notices for 108, 112, 118 when they were absolutely certain they were driving under the speed limit. Other good drivers tell me they lived interstate for many years with unblemished driving records, and within coming to Victoria, they have lost their licence within a matter of months, due to demerit points from faulty speed cameras.
The fact is that 1000's of Victorian's are paying out money, because no-one is coming to the rescue. Some are pensioners, some are unemployed, some are on welfare, and because they cannot afford a lawyer, they are forced to pay up - even if they are not guilty of speeding.

Sure, some drivers speed, and sure there are plenty of hoons out there, and these drivers should be booked by speed cameras and loose their right to drive. The isse is that many safe, cautious and responsible drivers are being victimized and are pressured to pay big money, just because they cannot prove they were not speeding.
The law is so wrong in relation to the speed camera issue. I even have family members and friend who were unfairly booked. I too copped two one point speeding fines on the Western Ring Road last year - when I had my cruise control on.

But what can you do. You complain, they tell you to go to court. You go to Court, and the magistrate doesn't know you from a bar of soap. All he or she can rely on is cold hard evidence. THe only real way we can prove we weren't speeding, is if you had some concrete evidence stating the speed camera was faulty or was set up incorrectly. With such a sneaky government, who is going to come up with that sort of evidence.

THe only thing we can do is keep complaining louder and harder, until the government in Victoria clean up their act when it comes to speed camera's. It is disgraceful they are treating Victorian drivers !

I have been fined by the camera @ Wellington Rd bridge sth bound on Dec 19th alleged speed 105klms (detected speed 108klms) when I had my cruise control set at 100 and was also using my GPS to monitor my speed I am going to fight it will anyone email me their details so I can use it in my defence. mirjam.geisler@bigpond.com.au. Thanks.

funny thing 16/12/09 and 22/12/09 detected 105
alleged 108 yes i was driving, a different vehicle
on these days and the time of day, for the first one 3:11pm and the second 3:26pm yes i will be seeking a offical warning

my old man (who was using cruise control @ 98kph) copped a fine from the EastLink, Keysborough, Southbound Dandenong Bypass Bridge, Keysborough Camera. While i was driving right beside him, and im yet to receive a fine.

Can anyone say FRAUDULANT and FAULTY? im guessing the state govenment has a stutter and thats maybe why they cant admit to this fascicle fund raising

Clocked 110km/h Alleged 107km/h at the East link, Keysborough, Southbound, Dandenong Bypass Bridge on the 19/12/09... i mean come on everyone knows where the cameras are so we are not going to speed... so I would like to say I was not speeding that day and Eastlink pull you finger out and fix your dam cameras

just got a fine guess what 108km wellington bridge cruise control on, have only just started to use eastlink for about a month, now i will never use eastlink again they can stick it up there @@s vicroads, government, and the police

I have recieved 10 speed fines over the period of two weeks in late December and early January 2010. Please email me to tanyamelbourne@yahoo.com.au so we can stick together. I happy to join a class action group to fight agains speed cameras in Victoria!!!!!!!! Plaese need your support, guys!!!! Happy to support others!!!!

I've browsed the net and am yet to find anything to say a class-action suit has been initiated.
I have disputed mine and received a letter stating that Vicpol have withdrawn the fines and I am now to receive a summons for court..

this is f*cking ridiculous. (excuse the french) but I am sick to death of Voctoria's revenus raising.. No other state has such obsurd road laws: i.e. NSW has a 10% speed tolerance, VIC has a 2% speed tolerance... Hmmm as others have said, doing 6kms over doesn't make you a dangerous driver, so why are we being punished? Revenue, that's why!

Arrrgh this gets me so frustrated!

Anyway, does anyone have any ideas on how we could initiate a class-action suit against eastlink? I'm ready to roll with these idiots!

In order to reach the Dandenong bypass at the alleged time of the alleged offence I would have had to be traveling at speeds in excess of 160kmph

On top of that I would / should have been photographed by the Wellington bypass traffic camera before I got to the Dandenong bypass.

My job requires me to drive all over Melbourne and knowing that speed and red light cameras are always operational I drive with the uptmost caution and within the limit as my job relies entirely on having my licence.

I set my cruise control on 95kmph and never travel above 97kmph on Eastlink let alone 110kmph as ‘alleged’ on the infringement notice.

Also in light of this, a recent news item on a commercial television station aired a story regarding a faulty camera which issued hundreds of fines to people for travelling at 108kmph regardless of their actual speed.

It would be greatly appreciated if you could review the fine and camera in this instance.

I have been fined and my both my Inlaws have been fined . We always set our speeds along Eastlink especially . At the time of the fine my wife was expecting our first child i was being extra careful, to say the least. I wrote a letter of objection and S BAKER who is a Leading Senior Constable sent back a response about the type of camera used, big technical and complicated words were used in this letter, i was very impressed. My aim is to form a Class Act. My email is kenter@optusnet.com.au. I have contacted N. Mitchel at 3Aw and waiting for a response also . Do not pay the fine and lets all go to court. This one will not go away . I told Civic Compliance in my letter i would do this and i mean it, but i need your help.

Nick Karamoshos
Keysborough

Mick, Sun, 01 Apr 2012 01:37 am:

Nick,

Wondering how you went here..? I would like to contect my fine. 108 detected. I had the speedo set at 100kmh. My Fiance confirmed before we went through the wellington rd underpass.
I have been sent letters before for speeding, and I accept these, as yes I was at fault, so I pay where I know I was in the wring. but I will NOT pay this which is totally incorrect.

Your help would be greatly appreciated here.
thanks
Mick.

Rhys, Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:20 pm:

I received my second infringement notice while travelling north on Eastlink.Location of the camera were same,Wellington road bridge.The first notice i protested.The replied insist the camera was correct.I paid the fine.Since then i always slow down below 95km/h when approaching that notorious camera.But it didn't end there.I got another notice.Please advice.

"Speed detections on the eastlink are captured using the Gastometer Digital Radar System - Parabolic (DRCS-P) system which measures speed using a parabolic radar. A parabolic reflector focuses a narrow radar beam slanted at the road at an angle of 30 degrees to the horizontal and is aimed at the centre of each lane. The system is a single unit per lane and consists of a camera, flash and speed measurement device. It records the speeds of all vehicles and captures images of vehicles travelling at the speeds in excess of the designated posted speed limit. The detected speed is then compared against an independent secondary speed measuring device at the site and the two readings are compared for accuracy to within +/- 2km/h"

Absolutely outrageous, I have been a rep on the road for 3 years and have done thousands of kilometers all over Victoria and never had a speeding fine in 25 years, NONONON!!!! forget that excellent speed record I got pinged 5 times in a month at welling road bridge, also knowing it was a problem camera....thats 5 demerit points. I am a single mother......any class action let me know.....I am in...

I've been contacting lawyers around Melbourne to try and initiate a Class Action against Eastlink, still in the process of chasing this up but if you're interested in getting behind this contact me at hodgson1@bigpond.net.au.

Any luck Jan? My wife has has just been pinged twice. In the same week. I know she doesn't speed because she's always on my case for going over 100. But she uses Eastlink daily to get to the city.

I've learnt to drive under 100 coming off the M1 and setting my cruise control on the moment I enter Eastlink but there have been times I forgot and didn't get pinged after the 1st 2 times I did I pinged.

If there are people who are serious about challenging it I say $10 each and let's see how far we go and how deep we dig.

I suspect if we dig deep enough and shake the tree hard enough something will fall out.

I refer to traffic infringement notice number xxxxxx which I have just received.

I wish to dispute the alleged infringement. Enclosed is my cheque for $7.50 for a copy of the image which was taken of my alleged offence.

In addition I wish to request for the following information.

1. A full list setting out dates, times and alleged speeds of each and every car served with an infringement notice at Eastlink Keysborough Southbound, Dandenong Bypass Bridge and the total number of drivers served with infringement notices at this location since the the opening of Eastlink.
2. A full list setting out dates, times and alleged speeds of each and every car served with an infringement notice at each and every other Eastlink speed camera location since the opening of Eastlink.

I require the information for my court case as I intend to dispute the offence and need this information to mount my Defence.

Yours faithfully

OK folks $10 each. Whose in? Let's see if the suspicion many people have about the faulty camera is true or not. You don't need a sociologist to tell you that humans are predestined to speed at only one location. If the numbers are evenly spread out there is not much likelihood of a faulty camera. But if there is a bunching.......

$7.50, a stamp and an envelope. That's all. The work has been done for you.

If the stats show a problem then let's see what $10 gets you.

desee, Thu, 24 Mar 2011 02:23 pm:

What info did you get? Did you take it to court? If so how did you go?

Gwen, Sat, 11 Jun 2011 08:33 pm:

So how did you go with the fine???
I have also recieved my 3rd speeding fine at 108km in the same area.

The 17th Jan I ahd my wife, mother in law and kids in the vehicle, no way was I travelling at this speed, Its the western ring road all over again

Am applying for internal review, photos and deatils of calibration and service history, including details of equipment used to calibrate, its calibration status eyc. Qualifications and experience of service personel etc

I am amazed that so many people are complaining.Just received a 108km-hr infringement notice.I don't believe it and have heard about other people doubting it too.
I will also go all the way to court.They hate this.Last time I did this I wasted the time of a police officer and a speed camera operator.The magistrate took away a demerit point but waived the fine.They were begging me to plead guilty and ,in return,they said what a good driver I was.
It got results!

I also have received fines for using Eastlink in November/December at alleged speeds of 116 and 120 kmh ! I travel extensively on the freeway networks around Melbourne at 90 kmh and have only been pinged at the Keysborough Dandenong overpass camera. The speedo checks on my van indicate the speedomer is correct to within 3 kmh at 90 to 100 kmh. I too will be fighting the injustice.

I went to Dandenong Magistrates Court on Wednesday and they advised that my court date had been adjourned until the 10th of June 2010. I am ready to join whoever has initiated a class action and will be more than dedicated to fighting this abuse. I was fined 3 times in two weeks (Wellington Road Bridge) in June of 2009. Please email me with any particulars of a class action on james.kerr@redroo.com

I too received a fine for the Wellington Road Overpass on Eastlink allegedly doing 108km. I wrote to Civic Compliance Vic.; Point 4 on the fine. I pointed out that I knew about the reputation of the bridge and drove the whole way on eastlink at 95 km per hour. Also pointed out my good driving record. I HAD A WIN!!! Got a letter back that the offence was committed (as they have to say) but because of my good driving record they were withdrawing the fine and demerit points would be cancelled. I was given an official warning. SO WRITE IN - WHAT HAVE YOU GOT TO LOSE?

PS. I will not be using eastlink under the wellington road overpass again. I didnt know about the Dandenong bypass problems until I read this site, so thank you. I will not be using that either now. What a waste of our taxes, we cannot use the roads that have been built.

Hey, I also received a 108 speed camera fine on eastlink, I cannot recall the actual event for I travel this freeway appox 4 times every day, I just assumed maybe it was a moment of concentration lapse and just paid the fine and copped the points. But now after reading this maybe I was also a victim of this scam, I wonder how many thousand people have just paid it and assumed they were also in the wrong. but what do you do?, we are the people that make up the world and of course we get no say other than every four years we get to vote between two people that primarily stand for the same thing ( to rip us off!!!) .(oh and they fine us if we don’t vote) Thanks Government..
Hmmmm maybe I will set up my own speed camera operation, "In the interest of safety of course” Ironically, I would also be fined for that!!!

I am in the processes of going to court for fine sept 09. It took 3-4 months to get the tolling times in Hrs Mins and secs from Eastlink/Citylink and I think I have a case. Will be very interested in what the cops say about the mathematics vs their suppossedly infallible cameras. I am hiring a per metre measing device next week and walking the distance to get an even more accurate distance between gantries. It's metres and seconds that count when wanting to fight them and I have the secs exactly, the exact distance soon. I love beating the cops, have done it before and there isn't a better feeling.

Add me to that list too. I was clocked doing precisely 108km/h on the 24 of January 2010 location the Dandenong Bypass Bridge. And get this, i was clocked again doing precisely the same speed 108km/h the next day as well (25 January) by the exact same camera at the exact same location. What a load of crap. I never in my 20 years of driving had a speeding fine before. Whats more, i have a GPS unit set to warn me whenever i go over 95km/h. I was traveling at less then 95km/h on both occasions. Luckily these was the only two times i used this darn motorway or i would have wracked much more fines passing under this faulty camera again. No more eastlink for me ... it is a government money raising scam ! masquerading as a motorway.

I received a fine for speeding at the Wellington Road bridge a few months ago; alleged speed = 108km. I paid the fine as I must admit that I am guilty of sometimes going slightly over the limit. After receiving that first fine, I have been incredibly wary of that particular section of Eastlink. Today I received another fine, exactly the same spot for exactly the same alleged speed, 108km. This is ridiculous as I consciously make an effort to slow down there. This is an absolute joke...but no-one is laughing.

Received fine for detected speed of 108km p/hr at Wellington Rd Bridge, alleged speed 105km p/hr. I know this cannot be correct, because I know the camera is there & I always ensure I'm under the speed. I nominated the driver under the company name & still got a fine, for $701 for failing to nominate driver under company name. How can I dispute this? I am not paying. I know I was not speeding & I most definately sent the nomination form in not once, but twice, because they sent a note saying I'd completed the initial nomination form incorrectly, so I made the noted changes & re-submitted. Are they not accountable for anything & they just waste our time & money. Please advise how & where I can dispute this.

How long does this have to continue? By the volume of regular complaints and objections it is obvious that something is rotten in Denmark. It would not be as profitable to admit liability and lose a chunk of the excellent revunue maker. A shame Victoria Police are not doing the right thing. The Police invoke outrage and anger from people who are incorrectly fined any wonder the force has lost the respect of the general populas!

Just printed off the application for internal review forms for 2 fines we have received from wellington road bridge - Detected speed 108km/h and alleged speed 105km/h. Seems like that's the same as everyone else who's getting pinged at this spot. Funny how we all drive the same speed! I'm going to contest!!

I have held off doing anything for a while to see how many people will join in so far only 3 people (Nick, Chris and Tanya) have been in touch with me about challenging this. There needs to be more than 3 people to make this work. Has anyone succeeded in getting any information like how many fines at each camera along Eastlink?

Sandi, you can either apply for an internal review or have the matter heard in court by completing the Application for Action by Court.

I was pinged twice in the same day on the way to my mums place 1st at the greens road heading toward Ringwood & on the way home at Wellington rd heading toward Frankston both doing 108km. I am fighting.

I have several vehicles in my fleet, All drivers have been advised to avoid Eastlink due to us believing the speed cameras are faulty. We have GPS and Cruise Control on our vehicles. Both are set for 98KPH on Eastlink yet we continue to get fines from the Keysborough bypass camera.
The Wellington Rd Camera is not fining us, the vehicles are doing exactly the same speeds at both cameras.
Unfortunately a forum such as this does not reach enough people without media attention.
I think all need to take some sort of action (legal or other) against theft by our government utilising faulty revenue sources.

Got 2 fines from the same camera (day after day) fro "Keysborough, Northbound, Dandenong Bypass Bridge" - Detected speed 108km/h and alleged speed 105km/h. I have a GPS unit set to warn me whenever i go above 96Kmh. What a load of bull. No way i was going over 100kmh let alone 105-108k.

These cameras are faulty...full stop. I wrote to the penalty review department and was knocked back ("we are satisfied that the offence was committed"). What a joke, two speeding fines day after day for exactly the same detected speed. Chances of that happening are about as high as winning the lottery. Lucky me.

These thieves must be stopped immidiatly...bloody state sponsored highway rip off! unbelievable what is going on here.

Forget it, no more eastlink for us and i am going to contest this in court.

I HAVE ALSO BEN CLOCKED 4X TIMES BY THE SAME CAMERA UNDER THE WELLINGTON BRIDGE, AT 106KPH AND 113KPA, ALSO LIKE MANY OTHERS I HAVE CRUSIE CONTROL AND MY GPS WITH THE LATEST SOFTWARE ON, IS ALL WRONG ACCORDING TO EASTLINK... I KNOW I DO SPPED AS I HAVE USED THE EASTLINK AND HAVE BEEN IN THREE DIFFERENT CARS AND MY WORK CAR IS THE ONLY ONE TO GET THE TICKETS, I USED THE SAME GPS IN ALL THREE CARS, EASTLINK HAVE BEEN TOLD ABOUT THIS AND THEY SAY MY GPS IS FAULTY...WHAT A LOAD OF B*******T IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO STOP THIS ???

I drive at 100 km/hr on the Tollway & am extremely conscious of my speed. I was certainly in no rush on either occassion, simply returning home after visiting relatives.
These are the first speeding tickets in some 15 years.

After reading all of the other comments here, I suspect that the speed detection setting on the Bridge camera is overstating speeds by a minimum of 8 ks/hr.

I agree that this camera is an absolute case of entrapment, and road safety is not the prime reason for its existance.

I'll tell you how falsely accused motorists should combat this injustice which the law likes to call legal, and states that you don't have a choice but to waste your time contesting it, or pay it.Simply physically demolish everyone of them with a sledge hammer. Including the monitoring cameras. Everything is about cameras these days. That's how you combat it. Why should I waste my time contesting something I was wrong done by, and I then have to consume my own time contesting it.If everybody did this, it would simply become too expensive for the damned government to keep replacing them. Sorry, but I speak what I feel. I don't like being legally ripped off, and the government can get stuffed. I work hard for my money.I'm not going to hand it to some bloody PM for his 150.000 dollar a year retirement pension, or some mongrel who needs his next payment for his luxury car. I would rather lose my licenses, go on the dole because I've lost my job and then suck the dole for the next how many months. Let them pay me for a change, and it will be alot more than 230.00 bucks. Why should I give it to them that easily because they say I have to, and then I have to go to the trouble to contest it.The problem in this country is people are soft, and what the law says stays, regardless of what the people say. The people really need to act when governments don't listen. Exactly like they do in Europe. After all, Australia is constantly following European type laws these days anyway. Follow European, act European I say. Melbournians have it bullshit hard. How they still have their licenses is beyond me.

There you go !! Someone who agrees with me. I do not condone violence or willfully damaging public property either, but when the going gets tough the tough get going. There are times for drastic action when governments don't listen, and for Melbournians, this is one of them. Either boycott this unnecessary evil Tollway and financially ruin the bastards to the point of no return, or smash their damned cameras. It's either the people of Melbourne show these bastards who's boss, or the people of Melbourne are further financially ruined. Wake up Melbournians !! The law if for the safe right of all people. Not for illegally robbing the people.

Hi,
In regards to the speed cameras on the Eastlink. I think that a good question to ask is 'If the camera is mounted on the underside of a bridge, which takes a lot of traffic, is there any movement resulting from vehicles which would affect the cameras performance?'

Booked on the 28th of Feb at the Wellington Rd Bridge whilst on cruise control - if the cruise control is faulty why didnt any of the other cameras pick me up. First fine in over 10 years!
$50 towards class action, sending email

Within the past 4 weeks i have had 5! yes 5 speeding fines at the dandynong bypass! 4 were going northbound and the other was going southbound. All at pretty much the same speed. Its not fair im definitely going to fight this! It is ridiculous!

I have been pinged twice in the Mullum Mullum Tunnel in the last 4 months - approx 600 metres from the exit both times around 4 - 4.30pm detected speed was 88, alleged speed 86.

Ok the first time I may have been 4 or 5 km/h over because the traffic in the left lane was travelling at 60km/h & nose to tail so I had to speed up a bit to get into a space without cutting off the driver in the left lane so I could take the Ringwood Bypass turn-off, but there is NO WAY I was doing 88.

This is bullsh*t, specially after the first time I got stung, & I know where the damn camera is... there is NO WAY I was speeding the second time.

Last year driving my wife's car south on Eastlink around 7pm on a Saturday evening I had been stopped by a cop & warned that I was travelling at 110kmh when I explained that I had the cruise control set at 100 he told me to get the speedo checked & let me go with a warning. I checked the speedo the next day with my GPS & yes from about 70km/h + it was out by 10kmh probably due to the oversize 17" rims on the car... so fair call... but the rest of the trip I set the cruise control to 90km/h (actual speed 100)& got done at the Wellington Rd overpass for doing 110!!!!

I will gladly chip in a tenner to fight these scumbag revenue raisers... Road safety cameras my ar$e!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I detest speed cameras AND the Labour Govt. Lets get rid of both!

Where are all the cops???? Used to be you couldn't go out on the roads without seeing at least one cop car a day... now I doubt I'd see one a week!!

Stoney, Tue, 06 Sep 2011 01:33 pm:

Trouble is Crusty, If we vote out the Labour Govt and Brumby / Ted Baileau, then the incoming Lib govt will just say that it will cost too much to remove the cameras and things wont change, Just a different pack of arseholes robbing you of your money. We need to prove the cameras faulty and have the govt re-inburse all the motorists that have been unfairly fined. lets see them find the millions of dollars needed to do that.

Govornments.... arsehole wankers club more likely.

Crusty, Mon, 21 Jun 2010 01:40 pm:

I checked my speedo on Saturday on the Hume Freeway speedo check at Craigieburn. Cruise control set, speedo showing 110km/h, GPS showing 110km/h speedo check on the overhead gantry showed 109km/h.
Next fine I get when I know for certain I wasn't speeding, I'm taking it to court.

I've been pinged 4 times in 4 weeks! Prior to that I've had 1 fine in 6 years - geelong freeway - yeah I was over so I cop it - no probs! I even got a 10% discount on my last licence renew for been such a good boy! But these 4 are ridiculous. One in the tunnel and 3 in the 100 zones. I drive an '04 landcruiser, it's speedo and cruise control is spot on and I check it regularly with my gps - spot on. I use cruise control all the time - set to 98ks - it's easier driving and I can rest happy in the knowledge that I'm NOT speeding - yer right. So now I start the loop with 'civic compliance' - and plead my innocence.... and guess what - all 4 fines are alleged at 8 ks over - what are the odds of that
? But I wasn't speeding! Now I have to seriosuly rethink using eastlink. The fines are bad enough but at this rate in 8 weeks I'll be walking!

Been booked 5 times in 6 months, 1 point,3 points, 1 point.I didn't speed, but paid fines and copt the points as it was all too hard.Bought car with cruise, set to 95kmph got booked two more times at alledged 116 kmph both times, rather coincidental (3 points each) with wife in car as witness each time. Internal review requested for first of them, Wellington Rd, with response today to that Police were satisfied that I was speeding and pay the fine or take matter to court.Funny though, photo I requested had two cars in it, waiting for photo of second alledged offence at Dandenong Bypass, I'll bet there are two cars in it as well .
What the hell can I do ? I'm in desparate trouble.
Where do I go for class action ?????

Yeah well good luck to all. These camera's are total rubbish !!! My son who is on his P's and only got his license in September '09 and has never got a fine or lost points before, but still being a P driver will never have a chance fighting these Eastlink fines. He started work on the 22/03/10 has already been done 3 times - all at the Dandenong Bypass 2 @ 110km/h and 1 @ 109km/h then take off 3km/h for an 'alleged' speed ! Out of that time I drove him to work for 1 week so now I'm just waiting to see if I cop a speeding fine as well - which would definately be wrong as I use my cruise control and sit on 98 to 100max. Meantime I've told my son not to use eastlink, his trip to work may take longer but 2 more points and he wont have a license and that means no work either. After reading all the above think I'll still get a copy of the photo's and see how many cars are in the photo ??? Wondering also if all of these fines for everyone are coming from a particular camera in a particular lane at the Dandenong Bypass !!!??? RIP OFF

These fixed speed camera's - & others- ARE corrupt.
Some visitors to this site may recall a very brief Media report in Feb' 2010 concerning "Stolen Speed Camera Software".

The speed measuring devices (SMD's)in these camera's are very accurate. It is the computer software that is corrupt. There is a sub-program that can be run randomly,or set to specific times & days. When operating,the actual speeds detected between 101 kph & 106 kph have 7 kph added to the real speed to give the 'Detected' Speed. The system deducts 3 kph to give the 'Alleged' Speed.
IE-: Your actual speed of 101kph = 108kph (Detected Speed)less 3kph = 105kph (Alleged Speed).
Keep in mind that your speedometer may be slightly inaccurate by 2-3 kph (sometimes more), so what you believe is 100kph may really be 103kph.
Your settings on Cruise Control & GPS may also be + or - 3 kph different to your actual speed.
The 7 kph 'bonus' speed can be adjusted at any time, so the only way to avoid a fine is to know where the camera's are, & to reduce your speed by 10 kph.
Another example of the State Government "Working For You".

I have just received an infringement notice 108kmh on the Eastlink Dandenong Bypass Bridge heading southbound (detected speed 108kmh, alleged speed 105kmh) I am aware of the camera and had the cruise control set at 100kmh, so there was no way I was speeding. I will write to them about this.
I have been living in Australia for 18 months now and am committed obeying the law. Road safety cameras here are the same as the UK, a way of making extra revenue for the government. If road safety is what it is all about then the police should concentrate on the amount of tailgating on the freeways especially by trucks, I am amazed more people are not killed because these trucks do not have a hope in hell of stopping in an emergency!

My husband has received 5 fines for the Wellington Road bridge. all at the same detected and alleged speed. We have asked for all to be heard in Court. 1 has been withdrawn, 1 has been lost and am still waiting on summons on the last one. Have been to court now 3 times - all adjournements. Today again was told it has been adjourned. Apparently there is 1 Judge at Dandenong who is hearing these matters and one matter is going to a Contest Mention (full hearing) on 21 July 2010. All cases have been adjourned until after the outcome of this one. If this person succeeds it is likely that the rest will be withdrawn also. If not, it is going to be very hard to win as the Judge said with the evidence from the camera operators before her we must be able to prove reasonable doubt so we have to have the evidence to prove the cameras are faulty.

I have received three fine notices, all 108 kph,alleged 105 kph, Southbound at the Dandenong Bypass Bridge, within 2 weeks.
My etag account shows that I travelled each total distance (30.2 ks) in 19 minutes.So -: 30.2 ks divided by 19 min's, multiplied x 60 = 95kph average speed.
I use the tollway twice a week.First 'speeding' fines in 25 years of driving.
I have written to the Officer in Charge, as per instructions, but my request to review the fines was denied, stating - "I am satisfied that the offence was committed..issue of notice was justified".
I have now requested copies of images and refused to pay the fines, requesting that the matters be dealt with by the Court.
After reading all of the comments here, YES, something is definately wrong with this system,& it would appear to be deliberately falsifying speeds for Revenue purposes - certainly not for Road Safety.
Why is the camera there anyway, this is not a 'Black Spot'??
REMOVE camera's from these locations & put them where they might do some good - Eg outside schools !

when will all drivers wake up and understand that all 108-110 are actually 98-101,these cameras were
never intended to ever slow you down,they are setup
for only making money,people are very coutious on
freeways and no one is dum not to watch their speed
knowing all these hefty fines,beside that, the cost
of the expensive toll,in which they charge.when
will everyone stand up to their rights,don't we
have a say.silence will never solve this unfair
growing penalty revenue we all are facing,don't
we see whats happening,next we will be fined for
sitting at home.

I have also just copped a fine for the Dandenong Bypass bridge, southbound for alleged 108, fined 105. Just got one at the same place about a month ago. I know the camera is there and don't speed so how the hell could I have possibly sped by the exact same amount twice? It's crap and total revenue raising. I will be writing to them for sure. This kind of bullshit makes it damn near impossible to retain 12 points over 3 years!! Give us a break.

I have also received a fine, from the 'alleged' offence date of 6th Feb 2010, they say they will nicely take off 3 k's as the camera may be faulty by that amount only but to just pay the fine. I definately know I wasn't speeding. What are we going to do about it>? I'm not paying this fine and am up for a legal suit. I will look into it and see how we go... Goodluck

I am aware of the "bogus speed traps" along the Eastlink and although do drive at 100 km/hr+ on the tollway, but always approach before underbridge areas at a lower speed as I am extremely conscious of my speed and always comes to mind I might cop an unnecessary fine!!! I was certainly in no rush that day simply returning home after a day's leisurely drive on the Peninsula. I was careful as I did not want to incur another fine as I have had several parking infringements over this period of time! For some unknown reason, I was a "HOT" target those past couple of months!!!

After reading all of the other comments in here, I suspect that there is the possibility of the speed detection setting on the Bridge camera overstating speeds by a minimum of 8 ks/hr.

I also agree that this camera is an absolute case of entrapment, and road safety is not the prime reason for its existance.

Although I am not happy about it, I am going to pay it and just wanted to voice the unjustice of it all in here.

It seems everyone is getting booked on cruise control.
Before going to court, do some tests, prove beyond reasonable doubt that your car was speeding.

Also, in between the cameras, set your cruise to 95 or 100kph, assess if you are moving faster than the traffic around you. It's probably one of the best educated "guesses" of your speed relation to what your speedo reads.

Mine reads 107-108 kph for an actual speed of 100kph.
I also changed my tyres and wheels, it made an approx 10mm difference (smaller) in rolling distance than what I had. On the original tyres and wheels, 104-105 kph was equal to an actual 100kph.

Remember, tyre sizes will make a difference to your speed. Larger tyres (aspect ratio) than the placarded ones by your car's manufacturer will always make you do a few more kph than what you thought.

Do a speed test over a certain distance, know what speed you are really doing. That's why all your court cases haven't worked, because you can't prove beyond doubt that you weren't speeding.

I've had an eastlink tag since it opened. Yet to receive a speeding fine. And I do 100kph under the cameras. That's because I've done my homework.

If you want to win your court cases, prove it by doing your homework and some tests.

After these tests, I'd dare say that a lot of you were indeed speeding (unfortunately).

I have tested both cameras in both directions, still yet to receive a fine. It does not fine you for doing 100kph.

Stoney, Tue, 06 Sep 2011 01:41 pm:

So which dept in the Vic Govt Revenue Raising Dept did you say you worked for... Bite me and wake up stupid, can this many people be this consistently wrong.. if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck then....... Revenue Scam Alert

Received speeding fine Detected 109kmh and alleged 106kmh at Eastlink Wellington Rd Bridge Northbound. Had been travelling from Frankston to Ringwood with Cruise Control set at 100kmh. Why didn't other gantry cameras detect me for speeding. My vehicle, a brand new FORD with less than 1000ks on clock. Is my new vehicle speedo that faulty. I know of the existence of the speed camera, in particular Wellington Rd Bridge. Why would I be so stupid to speed knowing of the likely consequences. Another fighter not paying.

I wonder which camp ME is in ?
Eastlink - protecting their Camera Site Fees which is basically a commission on Infringement Notices, or the Camera Traffic Office, trying to justify this extortion racket.
ME says he/she has tried to get booked - "tested the cameras in both directions" ??
Believe it Or Not. ME = BS !

30 years driving and only 1 speeding fine and 12 months using Eastlink i now have 8 speeding fines. I think if the goverment wanted to make up lost revenue for Eastlink they certainly are on to a winner here, it appears to be a lotto windfall for them maybe i'll try pushing my car along there and see if i get a ticket, get real and stop treating all drivers like there idiots. I believe there should be commision set up to investigate the many complaints received from these Eastlink cameras i'm sick of paying road taxes,road tolls and road fines maybe i'll buy myself a horse or rotating number plates like james bond 007.

Just to add mine to the list.Fine notice 15th april. Eastlink Keysborough, southbound Dandenong bypass bridge. Detected 112km/Alleged 109 fine $146
I usually use cruise control in 18mth old Toyota Prius so speedo should be accurate I believe. I don't travel on eastlink v often at all, and will use less after this. No other fines so I'm using the following advice from an earlier comment to start with, so good website, hope you manage to succeed with class actions etc:

Official Warning
Fines issued by Victoria Police for traffic offences
Victoria Police has the discretion, upon review, to withdraw an infringement notice issued for a traffic offence and issue an official warning in its place.
Generally, an official warning will not be given for red-light, mobile phone, seatbelt or other serious road safety offences, unless the existence of an emergency situation can be proved.
However, you can still apply to Victoria Police for an internal review of its decision. The contact details will be on the infringement notice.
Each application for an official warning is judged on a case-by-case basis.
If you have been issued with a speeding fine for driving less than 10kph over the speed limit, you can apply for an official warning if you:

• Hold a current driver licence (includes probationary licence holders but does not include a learner driver permit holder)
• have not been issued with a speeding, other traffic fine or official warning within the previous two years (if you have an interstate licence, you will need to provide evidence of your driving record - contact your local road traffic authority for this information)
• do not deny that you committed the offence.
Fines issued by agencies
All agencies have the discretion, upon review, to withdraw an infringement notice and issue an official warning in its place.
Each application for an official warning is judged on a case-by-case basis.

My husband has just recieved 3 fines on the Dandenong bypass and Wellinton road. All stating that he was going 108 and actual speed 105. About $148 each fine with one point. Normally I would curse him because he doesnt have the best driving history however I happened to be in the car with him at the time and 100% know that the cruise control was set at 100KM each time. How the hell can you prove this?? I want to write a letter to them but I am convinced they will just throw it away. Does anyone know where we could get the car speedo tested while on cruise control to eliminate the car as evidence??

Sam, Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:56 am:

Check with RACV to have your speedo's reading certified.
But also refuse the fine & state that you want to have is heard in Court. I have - 6 weeks & received no reply. Read some of the comments above,I understand that these camera fines are being heard as a test case, if it wins, all fines will be withdrawn. If you pay - bad luck, no refund.

second fine at Wellington road in 12 months, was aware of camera and had cruise control set at 100kph also had a truck about 50 metres in front of me and still managed a fine of $148 for speed of alleged speed of 108kph (had check speedo prior with GPS and no it registers slow than displayed but how can I prove it! its just a grab for cash

My partner just rang to inform me that I have just received a fine for $200+ as well as 3 demerit points for speeding under the Wellington Rd bridge. I have received 2 of the "108 km/h" ones in the past so I definitely DO NOT travel over 100 km/h anywhere near Wellington Rd. This is crap

I watch my speedo like a hawk and although I drive all over Melbourne for over 3 hours every day for work I never usually get more than one "Under 10 Km" fine a year on average untill I started using Eastlink. I have now had 3 fines at the Dandenong Bypass Bridge. I now have to brake to 90 km an hour approaching this bridge to prevent getting a bullshit fine!! Thats great for road safety!

In answer to Gregs comment i don't know any one who has challanged a fine with success wish i had. I always thought they had to clock you over a certain distance before they could fine you but it don't seem that way on eastlink. Seems to me like they take pictures of all traffic and they go in the hat at night to see who gets the fine, and how the hell can we argue over a still shot bit unfair i think.Appears to me they think no one is going to argue about 108km/h hoping that we will say to them selves i'm sure i wasn't speeding, 108 is there lucky number for some reason strange how all the cars that get booked are doing that speed EXCATLY.And i think drivers should have a choice of paying the fine or losing a demerit point , not both thats being punished twice for the same offence, if it was committed.

You can add me to this list.
Just got two speeding fines on Wellington Road brige. Dated 21st May & 24th May. Both at the same speed 109km estimated booked at 105km.
I don't go over 100km on Eastlink,haven't for the past 6 months since I started using it.
This is just disgusting. Reading all these comments has made me feel better as I am not alone but also worse because they are just getting away with it. And for what 150 people have still died on our roads this year. 11% up on last year? Great work Brumby....

I very rarely use east link these days - Im sick of getting booked - I have even been booked heading to Eastlink on Alexandra parade - i was 6 klm over -
There is nothing dangerous about doing 106 KLM in a 100KLM freeway as resposible people do not exceed speed limits intentionally. It is much safer watching the road than the speedo - the whole exercise is about revenue raising - cameras and resources should be used in dangerous roads and dangerous intersections

Thank goodness for this site - I have been in absolute agony over two fines, 28th April and 27th May, Keysborough southbond Dandy bypass. After all the trips on eastlink since its completion (and not even knowing that there were cameras for the 1st year at least) -why now? and I drive a taxi and love eastlink, never see anyone speeding, and there is absolutely no need to overtake, so why would we all be doing these ridiculous speeds at this one point? I am contesting for sure - I despise speed and have had my licence for 40 years, never had a highway/freeway fine.

I am glad that I found this site. Just got a notice for a speeding fine on Eastlink. An alledged speed of 108 at the Wellington bridge overpass. I know that I was not speeding as I had my cruise control set and know that my speedo is correct (actually reads 1K fast) have checked it against my SatNav and had it checked when car was serviced on the Dyno. Its my first speeding fine for over 5 years; but what chance do you have of trying to beat it in court. I can not afford to take a day off work or pay for a lawer, which would probably be more than the fine anyway. It really sucks.

My car got pinned on 17/06/10 for allegedly doing 140KMH under Eastlink Northbound Wellington road bridge. Cruise control on set to 100KPH. 6 months suspension of licence. Get on Police/Wellington Road go to Ringwood at Canterbury/Maroondah Hwy. Checked my prepaid breeze acc from Feb to July10 this trip has takem 7mins quickest all others have been 8mins.The trip that I was allegedly doing 140kph took me 8minutes. surely at this speed I should have got there under 5minutes. I'm going to Eastlink to get actual prints outs of History and querying. The time I've taken 7mins was not fined which was done twice.

My mothers car has been booked twice at the Wellignton road northbound bridge for 108KM. Ever since she got booked the first time she had been extra careful and even slowed down dramatically neer the Camera, this is an outrage, shes been booked twice in an amount of weeks at the same speed.

i have no reason to be here as i am far away and this is of no relevance to me (came across it by accident) BUT i cant believe how anal they are about such little speed over the limit. here we consider the police to be asses if they pull you over for anything under 20k over the limit...all these fines for 8k over is ludicrus..perhaps i dont have it so bad here after all !

Yep, I too was warned about the high number of cameras on this road, I drove very carefully with Cruise Control set on around 99km/h and now you can add me to this impressively long list of "clientele" of the Victorian Safety Camera Enforcement Agency. I just recieved my notification that apparently I was "detected" at 114km/h for an "alleged" speed of 111km/h at the Dandenong By-Pass Bridge. How convenient that this "alleged" speed puts me in the higher fine category of $234.00 (inc GST)

So screw you Eastlink, screw you Brumby and screw you Vic Police...

Victoria - The Place to Be (If you wanna be fucked over!!!!!!!!!!)

Stoney, Tue, 06 Sep 2011 01:47 pm:

I agree anonymous, but VicRoads should make you do a flexibility and agility test before getting your licence..... That way whilst driving in Vic, you should be able to bend over and grab your ankles, sure as shit that you are about to get fucked in the arse by the Vic Govt Revenue Raising Dept.

It's not just Eastlink where these scams occur, and not just Speed Camera. I just received a toll invoice from Citylink which claimed I entered at Punt Road at 18:52 and exited from Toorak Road at 18:53. According to Google Maps this is a distance of 6 kms in one minute or over 360 kmh.
Check out the US organisation CameraFraud and check to see the what they've uncovered about these sorts of cameras,
Which btw are from an Australian company now under a takeover bid from the Macquarie Bank.

I have just received a fine on Easlink’s Wellington Rd Bridge for being detected speed of 109km/h dropped to alleged speed of 106km/h on July6 2010. I had set my cars cruise control on 99km/h so I know I couldn’t have been going 109km/h. Am also looking for others may have been recently fined, or can advise regarding a current class action.

Whatever you do. DO NOT PAY THE FINES. Take the matter to court and have it heard.

Stop using eastlink people...the entire road is bobby traped with cameras...a major rip off scum going on. You save nothing by using the easlink and set to lose lots of $$$$ and your license if you have to use it daily. Amazing realty!

Wes, Mon, 02 Aug 2010 04:01 pm:

I agree, don't pay the fine. I have refused to pay after a "stiff shit,bad luck, pay up " reply from the Traffic Camera Office.
Apply to have it heard in court.Your loss of demerit points are then automatically withdrawn. If enough of us do this, these Brumby & Co rip off merchants will soon get the message.

just got a fine at north bound,wellington rd bridge
alleged speed 105 detected speed 108 ,geez had my cruise control set at 100kmh ,but to cut the story short wife just got one exactly same speeds same location,different vehicle.thats not right wife has not had a traffic infringement in 6 years .wer going to court ..goodbye brumby at next election.

It surprises me that this goverment can get away with ripping people of for there lost revenue and there mistakes, What do they think we are all stupid? Whats next Brumby speed humps on all the freeways i suppose this is what happens when leaders dont get elected by the people state and federal.

I just received a fine for 110 detected and 107 alledged for the Wellington Road Bridge Northbound on July 12. Due to what I have heard I checked my speed as I was going under the cameras and was a few K's over, It didn't worry me at the time as once you allow a few K's either way for variation at worst my alleged speed should have been 102 - 103. Looks like I will have to write a letter!

Wes, Mon, 02 Aug 2010 03:50 pm:

Don't pay the fine, take it to court.Your loss of demerit points are then withdrawn. Flood the court with defence notices, they will soon get the message

Just got 2 notices: Alleged Offence Date 10th July, Wellington Road Bridge - Alleged speed of 107kn/h; and 22nd July at the Dandenong Bypass Bridge - Alleged speed of 105km/h. I'm getting RACV to to a spedo sheck and report and will fight the whole thing in court. The best advice on this site seems to be to flood the courts with Notice to Contend applications.

I'm checking with DoJ as to the cost ($65 suggested here). You can represent yourself in a Magistrates Court (I have done so before on another matter).

I'm thinking of building an anti-eastlink camera website (I'm a web-developer with over 10 years experience and have my own hosting ability).

Any suggestions for name and/or content please post here and I'll keep an eye out.

This is a great blog for peoples experiences, does anybody know of any others so all relevant information could be brought together. I'm collecting for the court case.

P.S.
I am a web developer myself (for more then 13 years). You have a great idea going there and i will be more then happy to help put a web site that will cause the Brumby government to do A LOT OF EXPLIANING about this daily eastlink major scum.

I too have been slugged by the notorious Dandenong Bypass Bridge camera, I always drive with cruise control on at 100km/hr along these freeways as I am fully aware that there are numerous hidden cameras out there trying to fleece us, the speed detected was 109km/hr, seems very odd that most cases are detected at the same speed. I wonder just how many others were fleeced on the same day.

I have just received a fine notification for the Keysborough, Southbound, Dandenong Bypass Bridge.
I rarely travel on Eastlink, as I know how deadly & inaccurate the cameras are, but on the two occasions that I have travelled on Eastlink recently,I was being careful with my speed, yet I still received fines.
It would seem strange that the majority of motorists who are being booked are clocked @ 108km/h, not 109,110 or 111km/h.
With all the hoo-ha on the news, especially Wellington Rd. camera, I have always taken special care at ALL the camera locations, but as you see, to no avail.
The government have been losing money, owing to the lack of traffic volume, because of the high fees, so it looks as though they are trying to make it up with the fines.
I think it would be a good way to protest if :- 1. DON'T travel on Eastlink
2. IF you HAVE to travel on the tollway limit MAX speed to 80km/h.
3. If you do get a fine, FIGHT IT IN COURT.
4. An organized protest of several hundred vehicles travelling on the tollway with banners @ 60km/h should bring more media attention to the problem. Even individuals with signs on their cars should bring some reaction.

That's my 2 cents

Sam, Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:00 pm:

Just put a date & time for the 60kph protest drive, I will be in it !!
Let the media know also to make sure that it gets coverage.

I too have been fined on east link and I believe that i wasn't speeding i was caught on northbound wellington road bridge.

Bev Grace, Wed, 01 Dec 2010 07:22 pm:

My son received several fines from 2 Sept through to 14 Sept (when he received his first notice - 2 weeks after the first fine took place) all mounting to $1,500 and loss in licence, he had been travelling on Eastlink since March and aware of the camera. The fines started the day AFTER THE HUGE MELBOURNE STORM!! No amount of protest or civil letter writing helped. They all took place at Wellington Road Bridge. When the question was asked why was he not detected speeding at the other speed camera sites their excuse was they only ever fine you at the one camera!! It is all revenue raising, they have no compasion. We even went into the office to check out the photo, which was so enlarged you could only see our car with the number plate, (no view of what lane or how much traffic there was)(by the way it was peak traffic) and when I went to hand over a letter we wrote in protest the girl told me to keep it!!! Hence I posted it off so I know they have a record of our protest.

I Work as a sales rep, And work out of an office in Bayswater and have been travelling on the new East link for 2 years, Then all of a sudden, I got my first fine. ( Wellington road bridge ) one Week later, another one. All up' I received 6 speeding fines. I have hade the same car now for 4 years" I also have cruise control and a tom tom navigator. Now you do the maths. Out of the 6 fine one of then was at the Dandenong rd over pass. Do you think i would speed at the same bridges nowing the camers's are there.......

I applied to have this heard in court, but don't have a hearing date yet.

It is almost impossible to speed on Eastlink, as you would hit someone in the rear. My observation is that everyone is doing the speed limit or below - it seems with cruise control locked on anywhere between 95 - 100. I never see anyone speeding, and there is absolutely no need to overtake.

The question is - why are so many people speeding up to 108 at the wellington road bridge, where it is known that faulty cameras exist? We must all be stupid or just like having our photo taken!!!

I believe that everyone who was detected at 108 was actually travelling at 100, and that these revenue raising devices marketed as traffic safety cameras, are inaccurately measuring the traffic speed (the purpose for their existance).

Mr Ted Baillieu has accused the Brumby government of failing motorists, and that if he (Ted) were Premier, he would end Mr. Brumby's speed camera cover-up and be open and honest with Victorians about defective speed cameras.

Anyone booked under the Wellington Bridge please read this article, and if you happen to go to court, then print and have it with you. In this article the police are actually admitting that the bridge does move due to wind and traffic and when this happen they get blurry photos.

Well looks like i need to join the club too,
I have just received two speeding tickets (a day after each other) at the same camera for the same speed, this means i have lost 6 demerit points and possibly my licence. I am very confident i was not speeding ???????

Jack, Thu, 30 Sep 2010 06:15 pm:

Don't pay the fines. Take the Court option.
You will be notified by Victoria Police that the infringement notices are withdrawn & "Any demerit points associated with this offence will be cancelled" - YES, this is an exact quotation from Victoria Police.

It doesn't matter how careful you are with your speed at the Wellington Rd bridge & the Dandenong Bypass bridge, the speed cameras are malfunctioning randomly without any doubt, taking images of innocent motorists, and grossly overestimating speed readings.

A simple solution to this is to really slam your foot on the breakes hard - just as you pass underneath the bridges. I guarantee that the speed cameras will NOT take your photo. They can't because the multiple samples of your speed the camera detects as your car passes within the camera's beam will all be very different, actually getting slower.

Slamming your foot on the breaks not only helps you to avoid the injustice of being wrongly convicted of speeding, it also helps your fellow motorists travelling behind you to slow down and also avoid being wrongly convicted of speeding.

I see plenty of thoughtful considerate motorists applying this simple solution.

Jack, Thu, 30 Sep 2010 06:30 pm:

The SMD's (Speed Measuring Devices)are NOT "malfunctioning" at all.

There is a computor programme which is part of the 'Fine Processing Programme', that at pre-set times,adds 7 kph to the SMD detected speed.

Please is there any wway we can stop this? I too have got two from the Dandenong Bypass bridge, one on the way to work (who speeds on the way to work anyways) and one on the way home. Both being detected at the same speed?????? 108Kms P/H, Not happy because I don't speed on eastlink at all

I never speed. I travel in areas where there are hidden speed cameras everywhere. I travel a lot for work and have never had a fine....until now. 7 infringements in one week at..you guessed it...WELLINGTON ROAD BRIDGE. I was not speeding.
Call Shine Lawyers to see if they will do a class action. I have already emailed.

Join the club. I just collected my mail from my ex neighbor and I had a speeding ticket, guess what - Wellington Rd. 109 km/h, 106 km/h alleged speed (23/8). Come home and have another one in the mail (redirected this time), 6/9, exactly the same speed 109 km/h, 106 km/h alleged. Funny that I seem to drive always at the same speed - considering I know Eastlink has speed cameras. Will write them a letter first and then see. If it only cost 65 bucks to go to court so be it. BS.

David, Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:36 am:

Me too! 2 on one day at Dandenong. Both alleging 111.

So if I want to challenge, how can I possibly win really? I mean they will produce testing, calibration reports, etc... All I can say is "I don't believe I was doing the speed" and "Others are saying the same".

I started a new job 2 months ago and have been travelling on Eastlink everyday. I have been lucky enought to accumulate over 15 fines at the Dandenong Bypass Bridge. What an absolute disgrace, I get off at Greens Road which is just after the bridge, so I doubt I would be speeding when I would be more likely slowing down to get off at the exit. This is loss of lisence and I plan to dispute every single ticket. These cameras are ruining and disruppting peoples lives. It is so hard when you work so hard every day to pay the bills and you get fines like this taking everything you earn making it impossible to live and possible loosing a job cause you can't get to work everyday.

Jack, Thu, 30 Sep 2010 06:07 pm:

YES, dispute these false "fines" & take the Court option. Your infringement notices are then withdrawn by Victoria Police,potential loss of points are also cancelled.
You have nothing to lose, and you will save your license.

I also have a fine from a camera on Dandenong Bypass Bridge. Also Alegging 111km/h. Question: has anybody successfully got off when the alleged speed is that high? The Police can use their discression to withdraw the notice if it is less than 110, but what if it is over 110?

I have contested 4 fines on East Link Dandenong Bypass Bridge camera. I attended Court in May 2010 where I asked for my case to be adjourned as I had read that earlier, Judge Cure had granted an adjournment to a person who was contesting their speeding fines.
This case was supposed to be heard in late July and I have not heard anything. I am due in court again next week. Anyone know anything or experienced going to court?

The T.C.O did not provide the information I requested.I still contested & it has been deferred until Feb' 2011.
The Magistrate did not seem particularly pleased with the reasons given by the Officer from the T.C.O.
Scroll up this page to "Brett" - 11 Jan' 2010 & read reply by Michael Kuzilny.
There is no doubt that this Speed Camera rip off is a Conspiracy, controlled by Vic Roads,set up under the auspices of the Brumby government.
Vic Roads are a self regulating body whose "Laws" make the accused Guilty, without any possible means of proving innocence.This is a major consideration of the Law Institute.The Police & Court system have no role other than to abide by the internal "rules" that Vic Roads lay down to them.
They have become nothing more than Revenue collectors, not able to dispense Justice.
Everyone charged should keep refusing to "Roll Over" & pay the fines.
Now is the time to write, email,or fax your local MP stating your disgust, & force this matter back into Parliment.

Simon, Fri, 19 Nov 2010 02:31 pm:

Jack, Jack - what happened?

Simple Solution, Tue, 23 Nov 2010 01:44 pm:

Where are you Jack? What happened - did you win the case?

Jack, Sat, 16 Oct 2010 08:30 pm:

I go next month, been waiting 8 monthts

Jack, Sat, 16 Oct 2010 09:06 pm:

PS
I've requested from the Traffic Camera Office, a certified copy of the actual computer print-out(NOT a summarised copy report)that shows my "Actual" speed as recorded by the SMD, my "Detected" speed & my Alleged speed - all on the same line.
IE - I want to see the actual "Speed" equation that was recorded.

Since I was fined for 110Kmh last year, I haven't used east-link at all. I have no problems travelling at 90 to 100 kmh on all other freeways around Melbourne and Sydney. As a payback to east-link though I rather like the idea of a 60 kmh long drive along the freeway. The longer we take, the less revenue the government gets.
I also know now why the Victorian government took our guns from us..shotguns would make short work of these damn speed cameras !

max, Wed, 20 Oct 2010 08:26 pm:

I second every word. Damn highway robbery. What a sad Joke the Victorian Government and police are.

I stopped using the Eastlink completely (too) since receiving two fines day after day for the exact 108kh "detected" speed. 21 years of clean driving record and then this bull.

I'll be seeing them in court and they will need to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that i was traveling at that speed. I am going to make their job as hard as i possibly can. This rip off must stop!

linfox company driver fined on dande bypass oct 15 using official company gps tracking as certified witness plus compliance from manufacturer who fitted truck speed limiter to vehicle which prevents it from going over 100 kmph

linfox company driver fined on dande bypass oct 15 using official company gps tracking as certified witness plus compliance from manufacturer who fitted truck speed limiter to vehicle which prevents it from going over 100 kmph

Gotta agree with the Wellington Bridge camera being dodgey. Here's why. I don't speed, I had a crash last year not speeding and the damage was bad enough! I wouldn't speed and put my life and the life of others in danger. I know my speedo would have been sitting on 99. But I was detected doing 108 under Wellington Road Bridge. How am I more sure this is false? If my speedo says I was doing 99, then I know from my GPS that I was only doing 94... thats 14kms slower than I was detected to be doing... But like a P Plater driving a commodore would be able to avoid that! Wish me luck

Eastlink Southbound Dandenong Bypass bridge 6th Sept 2010 allegedly doing 107 detected 110 actually doing 100kmh using cruise control on a near new XR6 Falcon. 31 years driving not even a parking fine for 27 years do 35,000 km per year. Always use cruise control. Something dodgey with this camera. christopheresullivan@yahoo.com.au

101 set on the cruise control, alleged detected speed 108 at wellington road bridge eastlink, on october 19th.
Testing on the Hume highway access has shown that my actual speed is 96 when the speedometer registers 100.
Count me in on any concerted action on this.

I challenged my Wellingnton Bridge fine (108km of course) from 28 Oct 2009 and was given a court date of 12 Nov 2010. When I called the Court Coordinator to tell them I was pleading not guilty, I was advised that on 22 Feb they had a special session scheduled for Eastlink fines and I would be issued a summons for that date. Sounds like fun.

Ian, Wed, 08 Dec 2010 09:51 pm:

Same here Betsy.

If the Court now has to make special days for Eastlink speeding fine Victims,it sounds like a lot of us are not taking this extortion without a fight.

GREAT STUFF EVERYONE !!

Perhaps the message is starting to get through.

Hopefully when those responsible do their sums & see that it costs more to administer this racket than what is raked in from fines, they might have a rethink.

The Magistrates must be getting sick of this crap also,maybe they will create some internal waves as well ??

Barbara, Thu, 25 Nov 2010 02:41 pm:

Betsy,
I have lost my licence b/c of that stupid Eastlink. I have had numerous fines at that Wellington bridge with my cruise control on.
Now my husband has received one for you guessed it 108km when again we had our cruise control set to 100km/h.
I am now wishing i contested all those fines rather than simply paying them and ultimately losing all my points.
Think we might have to fight this one.

Just got 2nd fine in 2 weeks Fine1: 11/11/10 Rowville Nothbound Detected: 109 Alleged:106 Fine2: Keybourough Southbound 19/11/10 Detected:109 Alleged 106.. mmm same number thats a bit odd! this is a joke I never speed on Eastlink cruise control 0n 100!
How do we get onto the court list on 22 Feb??

Has any one suggested photographic or video testing of speed cameras particularly at Wellington Rd Bridge. This would involve photographing/videoing a cars speed at 100 kmph, with the time date and the bridge in the shot. If you did this two or tree times and produced photo based hard evidence of the correct speed but were then fined for speeding, surely you could go to court with that evidence and use it for that fine and your previous fine. If your speedo was tested and accurate (most new cars speedos are actually 4-10% above the road speed, manufacturers standard to cover themselves) this might just catch the speed cameras out. Worth a shot?

I was also booked at 108 at Wellington Rd bridge. There's too many of us with exactly the same complaint. The Wellington road cameras are obviously faulty. We need to galvanise and take action.

Are there any solicitors reading this who may be willing to take this further.

My fine is only $150, there are plenty of people will much greater amounts, this must be addressed!

nikki, Mon, 20 Dec 2010 11:47 am:

I too got a $150 fine and loss of one point for apparently speeding at wellington rd, absolute bollocks i never speed and my gps shows that my speedo is off by a few Km too, so if my speedo says 100 my GPS reads it at 94.

surprise surprise that i was caught at 108 in true wellington rd fashion.

I have just been to Dandenong Court this morning hoping to defend myself. I was booked at 113 on the notorious Wellington Rd gantry when I know for a fact I was traveliing at 90. I now have to go back in February to "negotiate" with the POlice Prosecutors. I refuse toi admit guilt so will eventually end up in court. Even Communist China at least admits it is Police State!!!

Fred, Sun, 12 Dec 2010 01:19 pm:

You idiot. I bet you slow down to 90 at the tolling gantry. well guess what. the speed cameras are not at the Gantry. i see this behaviour on eastlink all the time. slow down for the gantries then speed back up again. Then complain that they are wrongly booked for speeding

I too have been stanged by the notorious Dandenong Bypass Bridge camera, I always drive with cruise control on at 96km/hr along the eastlink as I am fully awareof the hidden cameras out there trying to fleece us, the speed detected was 108km/hr, seems very odd that most cases are detected at that same speed. I found a helpfull online link on how to leagaly bit a speeding tickets, anyone tried this product?

have two fines 11 march 10 at dandenong bypass and suprises suprises wellington rd 8 may 09 both under 10 kms over speed limit havent paid fines and now sherrif suspended licence and rego so all up ive got 7 speeding fines over the last 6 years and as i put it IF YOUR LOOKING AT YOUR SPEEDO AND WATCHING YOUR SPEED YOUR NOT WATCHING THE ROAD AND YOUR GOING TO BE AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN (IVE GOT OVER A MILION KMS UNDER MY BELT AND NOT ONCE CAUSED AN ACCIDENT) I ALSO DRIVE TRUCKS SO YOU HAVE TO BE SWITCHED ON WHEN DRIVING AND WATCHING THE ROAD NOT YOUR BLOODY SPEEDO AND YOU DRIVE TO THE ROAD CONDITIONS IN FRONT OF YOU

I was very surprised to receive an infringement notice for alleged deteced speed of 109kph on a Southbound trip on Eastlink on 10 Dec 2010, as I had my cruise control set for 100kph and my GPS alerts me if I am exceeding 100kph.
The camera - DANDENONG BYPASS BRIDGE !!

sick of the bs these cameras give us
my story is as all others eastlink 109 kl ect i have a court date in dandenong and will use this list as evidence that these cameras lie thanks all dont give in fight the bastards ...

just received 2 fines in the mail for same day offences, dandenong bypass - northbound and southbound. alleged speed 109km/h & 110km/h
i'm very distressed at the thought of my previously clean driving record being tarnished due to an obvious fault, and the FACT i know I WAS NOT SPEEDING!!!
after all the news on faulty cameras and speeding on eastlink, I have made a consious effort not to speed at any stage.
i have no proof other than my honest word, am desperatley saving for my first home and couldn't afford to take time off work to fight this allegation in court!!!! WHAT CAN I DO?
i'm fed up with this garbage and am so angry at the thought of having to accept this.
CAN ANYONE OFFER ADVICE?
thanks

Simon, Sat, 12 Mar 2011 02:47 am:

Yes, if you have a clean driving record the Magistrate may decide to dismiss the case, that is if you plead guilty to the offence. Lets be very clear here - the magistrate will NOT let you off, he may 'Dismiss' the case. You will still loose any associated demerit points. The court has no control over this.

What I have stated is fact. I went to court in Feb and this is exactly what happened to the lady who's hearing was ahead of mine.

Jack, Thu, 24 Feb 2011 05:56 pm:

Wtite to the T.C.O,as per advice on the Infringement Notice. State your "clean" driving record & request a review.
If you receive a "Stiff...bad luck, pay up" reply,take it to Court.
If you do have a clean record, the Magistrate can let you off.

Courtney, Wed, 09 Feb 2011 01:39 pm:

If anyone can offer advice or assist please email me courtneykndll@yahoo.com.au - would be much appreciated!

Was not speeding just like the 4 other times. I drive this road a bit ant for one I don't speed, and the other is that from the first day the road opened I have known where all the cameras are. I have not received and fines from the other cameras, just this one.

Alleged 108kph at the wellington road bridge (automatic photographic revenue raising toll point) at least 7 months ago. Went to my court hearing in Dec 2010 and pointed out a very obvious error with the evidence (wrong color car), and my hearing date was moved to tomorrow morning.

I'm pleading not guilty. I've got two photos (their photographic evidence) of the event which shows that there are other vechicles in the photo frame, none of which even slightly resemble the color of my car.

If you have any prior speeding convictions less than say 8 years old - beware. They will haunt you!

The court is only there to decide if the penalty is just, based on your individual circumstances and driving history. The court is NOT there to rule if the speed camera device is faulty or not - because they aren't faulty - The court explained to me that there is legislation in place which says that the speed camera devices are NOT faulty.

If the legislation says that the cameras are not faulty. then they are NOT faulty. How can they possible be faulty if the legislation says they are not!

The person who appeared before me for exactly the same infringement as mine, was very gently and respectfully coersed into pleeding guilty. The case was dismissed, this person didn't have to pay the fine, however this person still lost one demerit point. You see this person had NO prior convictions (speeding tickets) - a model citizen and perfect driver.

This was the best outcome for her. Plead guilty to something you don't believe you did, and still loose a demerit point.

Prior convictions seem to seriously change the outcome.

I was given the option to plead guilty and pay the fine as it stands, or, plead not guilty and have the hearing set for another date.

I am innocent, and I'm not ready to roll over just yet, so I pleaded not guilty.

I just heard on the radio that there will be a court case for people who wish to contest their fines at the Dandenong by-pass. Does anyone know anything about this? As I would like to be involved. I also was fined twice last year using my Cruise Control set at 98km/h. I wrote a letter but, of course it was knocked back. I couldnt afford to fight this in court. With two kids, and mortgage I couldnt take the time off work. I am so angry that in this day and age our Government systems can not get this right. It is so blantantly obvious their is a mistake in that camera, but it will cost them too much of OUR money to repay the fines. Just own up to and do the right thing by the community.

On Today Tonight they were saying there was a special court being set up at Dandenong just to handle speed fines. I would suggest that,looking at the amount of paperwork displayed, this court is going to be very busy starting from 22nd February 2011.

Got three fines this year on Eastlink from the Rowville, Southboung, Wellington Road Bridge. All 3 notices claim I was detected at 111km/h. I know this is false, because like countless others, I use my cruise control set to 100km/h. But like others have found out, there is no option to reverse it, except going to court, which is not really an option for reasons others have mentioned. I called Eastlink, and they said the cameras are installed and operated by Vic Police, and asked me to speak to them. I declined, but also told them I would use Eastlink to a minimum now. Eastlink generates its revenue from tolls. Stay off the Eastlink, and you save on tolls and fines. I told the Eastlink staff this is what I would do, and I encourage others here to so. At least force Eastlink to take it up with Vic Police, or risk commuters staying off their tollway.

Fined southbound Dandenong Bypass Bridge Speed
108 kph Alleged speed 105.
Have checked my cruise control on Western Highway and Hume Hwy check points and exact to my Speedo I had it set on 100
Will request photo and see how I get on.
22/02/2011

Got home from holiday, and found speeding fines from north and southbound dandenong Bypass bridge at around 108km, both fines different days. Does anyone know if a roof rack interferes with cameras ? as these two days I had a roof rack on. My navigator is set to alarm when speeding, it was on, no alarms. I have written to the issuers of the fines and am waiting feedback from them. I do not beleive I was speeding.

We are suppose to be improving our road rules and i am disgusted to find that we are being robbed. I was fined on 2nd Feb on 117km on wellington rd eastlink. I definetly had my cruise control on and feel we dont have chance to fight for what is right. The system is not fair where is justice.

For those challenging Eastlink Infringements where your speed is registered at 107-110 (less than 10km over 100KM) is your car "2004 or older" ?.

If so, is there a point to debate as per the accuracy of the speedometer consdiring the below references ?

A news article in the Herald Sun several weeks ago (can’t find now) inferred that this was to be factored in to debate – where you intentionally speeding.

I recall it went along the lines that the speed cameras are there to catch you when you have intentionally speed as you know the speed limit (i.e. 100km). If your cars speedo registered at 5 – 10 km less than what you were clocked at, were you intentionally /knowingly speeding ?. As variance of 8-10% appears to be applied to most before you are cited, if your speedo on your 2004 registered car says it is doing 100 km and you were clocked at doing 108-110 km, is it appropriate to be ticketed ?

As the accuracy of cars post 2004 are held to a higher standard, suggesting your new(er) car speedometer is off, is not plausible. Also saying without proving (from a reputable firm) there is a variance in your speedometer would not be appropriate.

Any thoughts on this as per cars 2004 or before or is just a rationalization with no basis/merit?

Re: Wellington Bridge East Link speed camera
If anyone knows about class action planned against unlawfull fines (yes there are unlawful) from above mentioned camera, let me know, as I have one and would be happy to join.

Christina, Wed, 16 Mar 2011 03:01 pm:

I received a fine re wellington road bridge as well - due 31/3/11. Did you find out anything about a class action??

Im 40 and managed to Drive in NSW for 23 years without a single speeding Fine. I moved to Victoria 2 years ago and have had 4 "speeding fines". 3 for doing 103km in 100km/h zone on Eastlink and one for doing 65 in a 60 km/h zone.

I can't afford to live in this State with all the random infringements. I'll vote for anyone who'll scrap these OR at least bring them back to some level of reason. Labor, Libs, Hell I'll even vote for the Nude Pool Party if their policy is to scrap them.

Might be just easier to move back home.

Vlad, Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:41 pm:

Really? I didn't think it was legal to issue a fine for such a small amount.

That amount wouldn't even register on my speedo, I confirmed with my gps that my speedo doesn't show small fluctuation in speed like what you were fined for.

My fiancee was also booked at the notorious Wellington Rd Bridge Northbound, then 15 days later Southbound alleged speeds 113 and 107. He wrote a letter in protest stating he had his car on cruise control also has GPS. But of course the cameras are not faulty please pay your fines we need the money was the response. Although these fines were back in early 2009 I too would like our money back because its not fair, its obvious to us that the stupid cameras are faulty, but we the hardworking people have to put up with their B***S**T and lose our money and dermit points.

I have been given a speeding notice of detected speed of 108kmh, in •EastLink, Rowville, Northbound Wellington Road Bridge. This is the first time I entered easlink, I never use eastlink. I drive regularly in monash bound to tullamarine and i keep my speed within 100 and sometimes I have to keep up the pace and go slightly higher, but never been given any speed tickets. This clearly states that it's revenue making trick.

Received a revenue raising fine with a detected speed of 108kmh Southbound at the Wellington Rd Bridge.Our 2010 Hyundai I45 on cruise control at 100kmh. Will be contesting! Please let us all know if there is a class action?

Went to court today, self represented. Two speeding tickets (day after day), eastlink under the Dandenoge Bypass Bridge. Both tickets for detected speed of 108kmh, Alleged 105kmh.

I originally pleaded “not guilty” but then on mentioning day decided to change my plea to “Guilty”. I mentioned to the judge that I changed my plea in order to bring a fast resolution to this matter and to save the courts valuable time.

I highlighted in court the followings:

(1) My clean driving record of more then 30 years

(2) I have GPS unit and on dash warning light both set to warn me whenever I go over 95kmh. None of them went off on the two alleged offence dates.

(3) The huge media buzz which surrounds this camera and the fact that it is the most complained about camera in Australia. Also the fact that it was featured on Various TV channels as well as Radio channels 7, 9, & 10 current affairs shows. As well as 3WA radio show. With most compliments are about being booked at the same speed I was allegedly booked (Detected speed of 108kmh, Alleged 105kmh).

(4) I also mentioned the fact that even Ted Beliue before being elected to VIC premier has initiated an investigation into the speeding cameras on the eastlink and it was reveled under the freedom of information act that the cameras are very often faulty and need replacement or repairs.

(5) Because the fines came day after day I had no opportunity of “correcting” my behavior.

(6) The fact that the two fines are going to put a huge strain on our already starched budget. (I have a family and a mortgage).

Judge was sympathetic and well aware of the problems with this particular speed camera but said that until someone proves the camera is faulty there is not much that HE can do about it. He dismissed both fines (I don’t have to pay them) but the demerit points were held. So my clean driving history of more then 30 years now shows that I was “speeding” on both alleged occasions. BS!

The fact that I did not have to pay the fines was appreciated but the fact that my driving history is being falsely stained is not. What a racket !

Bottom line……YES MOST DEFIANTLY TAKE YOUR CASE TO COURT IF YOU HAVE A CLEAN DRIVING HISTORY. You’ve got nothing to lose!

Good luck to all you guys having to waist your time on this state sponsored racket. Hopefully someone will eventually be able to prove this root and our driving history will be restored.

I just found out I have 5 speeding fines from the Dandenong bypass bridge. I'll be contesting these......!!

I travel from Thompsons road to the Monash and back, every single day. How come I only get picked up by the one camera??? I am driving so carefully because of all the "safety camera" signs everywhere. Clearly something wrong.

Anyone got any tips with lawyering up?? Or do you have a website I can go to that will tell me the process to contest it?

I am trying a different line of defence. I will try it out myself first to see if it works. As some of the cameras on Eastlink definitley appear to be faulty, I believe it comes down to a question of how have the cameras been calibrated in their operating positions. If anyone has already asked this question, I would appreciate what sort of response was received

i too have also received a fine at the dandy bypass at 109km alleged speed of 106km i travel eastlink frequently sometimes 5 or 6 times a day doing deliveries and i make sure i am well under the 100km limit each time...i am going to contest it...has anyone heard the result if any of the police officer fighting her ticket as she was in a police vehicle on cruise control with a witness her cruise control was set at 98km the speedo in the vehicle was tested 3 different times and she received a fine stating speed of 108km... the matter was being heard in dandenong court...i noticed there is also a post about a class action?? if anyone has any advice email me rick@stewartsplaster.com.au

I went to Dandenong court this week to challenge and like others was told I basically had no chance of proving the camera was faulty. I suggested that with the calibration done in Feb and my third fine, the one I was contesting, received in October, that this was a long time and maybe there was a calibration issue but their response was that they are only required by law to calibrate every 12 months. So I did change me plea to guilty to settle the matter, avoid the fine, and have the case dismissed but ended up with the one demerit point. Having done it, I think challenging the fines is the right thing to do; it sends a message, but what a pain in the *#@&%$. And by the way, for anyone who self-represents, remember to stand when you address the court!

Hi All,
Am finally going to court on Thursday re Wellington Rd fine from X-mas day 2009 detected 109 alleged 106 ....... any words of advice other than stand up when asked and accept defeat and plead guilty to this scam ?????

Before I started hearing about all the problems involving speed cameras on Eastlink, I came home to find that I had been fined twice there in 1 day. And because I hardly ever travel in that direction I could remember the care I was taking as I travelled along that route. I thought surely someone is lining their pockets at my expense, as both fines were the same, allegedly 105 KPH, Hhhow convenient for WHOMEVER!! I phoned to find out how I can file a complaint, only to be blatantly told that I should state my guilt in order to have some consideration at getting 1 fine cancelled. Well, at that moment, I started to get a taste of what it must feel like to be accused of a crime in this great state, Guilty ! without a chance of proving otherwise. Because they have all the power, all the evidence and no conscience about the difficulties and stress that their actions are inflicting on this deteriorating society!

Well well well. Looks like I am not the only one. My cruise control is always set BELOW 100 just to be sure. Two fines in the space of two weeks all saying my detected speed was 110 reduced to 107. NOT POSSIBLE. How could my speed be detected at over 100 when I know I always set it to less than 95. This is ridiculous. I will not be using this freeway until someone owns up the obvious revenue making scam.

After a fairly drawn out process I finally got off the fine and demerit point. I got booked on christmas day 2009 and after having a chat with the police prosecutor decided to pleade guilty, explained to the judge I had my cruise on, know of the camera and number of complaints and asked him politely for leniency under the senticing act and ...... bango have a nice day catch you later. He said I have only had 1 mishap in my 23 years of driving (rego problem) and was happy that I showed up to plead guilty in the end. I am a sales rep and have had a heap of speeding fines over the years but that wasn't brought into consideration at all. Fight the fines if they are only 5 to 10 kms over because its worth it on principle. If you have been done for 115kms + forget it. I represented myself by the way as lawyers are waste of money.

I too have just recived an infringement notice for the Eastlink, Rowville, southbound, wellington road bridge. I have driven in the uk for 10 years without any issues. Been in Vic for 4 months and I now have my first ever demerit point. I am always cautious with my speed and can't believe how many people these traffic cameras have scammed. As I am a temporary resident I don't want to go to court incase it affects my visa. Shocking is all I can say.

ddouble, Thu, 31 May 2012 02:34 pm:

Hi Joanne, Like you I got fined in the same location about the same time. I am fighting my case through the court, and wondered if I could talk to you about your situation. Leave your contact details at ddouble1@optusnet.com.au.

got my fine today for wellington road bridge detected anzac day. and like the hundreds of people on here, 108 alledged. and like the hundreds of people here, would almost bet my left testicle i was doing 99. i was on a bike.you can feel the difference if doing above the speed limit. but going by what has been stated in here, take a day off work, travel to dandenong, no hope of aquital till you admiit guilt, then they remove the dollar value of the fine. do they still add the court costs of $65 ? if so the savings from the fine are 80 odd dollars. i earn more than that a day and would also have to travel 3 hours just to get to court. the simple maths say pay the fine. but geez it stinks. i can only hope that someone with enough time and knowledge do find these cameras to be faulty and the government of the day has to refund all fines issued by said cameras. i also hope to win lotto one day.
thieving govenrment.

ddouble, Thu, 31 May 2012 02:36 pm:

Hi Chris, Like you I got fined in the same location about the same time. I am fighting my case through the court, and wondered if I could talk to you about your situation. Leave your contact details at ddouble1@optusnet.com.au.

Was just informed by work that I had 2 tickets in the space of a day on the Wellington Road Bridge back in November last year... 105 and 108. When I get them sent to me I plan on contesting this... any advice as I'm on my green Ps, driving is what I do part-time (full time student) and if both stick there goes 2 out of the 3 demerit points i'm allowed...

this is a joke, i know about the faulty camra's in the area,so i dont speed, i visit my brother once or every fortnight near launchingway. after listening and watching news about faulty camra's etc , i get a infridgement , i want to know what i can do to fight the infrindgment.

to all the people in here who have contested their fines in court. it appears you get let off the fine ONLY if you plead guilty. has it accoured to anyone that by pleading guilty, they will never fix the cameras because there is no fault. you admitted speeding. i know it saves the fine, but by the time you take a day off work, travel to the court, and your time, just to plead guilty,sort of negates why you went there in the first place. because you were INNOCENT. there will never be anything done justice wise while we bow to the mighty dollar. everyone needs to plead innocent, then it will go to a higher court and clog that place . then they might listen. unfortunatley, if they dont listen, it may end up costing more. we have even had ex police members in here state there is little to no chance of being declared innocent... looks like we are all screwed by a government who is probably worse than organised crime syndicates because they control our judicinal system and our law enforcement agencies.

to all the people in here who have contested their fines in court. it appears you get let off the fine ONLY if you plead guilty. has it accoured to anyone that by pleading guilty, they will never fix the cameras because there is no fault. you admitted speeding. i know it saves the fine, but by the time you take a day off work, travel to the court, and your time, just to plead guilty,sort of negates why you went there in the first place. because you were INNOCENT. there will never be anything done justice wise while we bow to the mighty dollar. everyone needs to plead innocent, then it will go to a higher court and clog that place . then they might listen. unfortunatley, if they dont listen, it may end up costing more. we have even had ex police members in here state there is little to no chance of being declared innocent... looks like we are all screwed by a government who is probably worse than organised crime syndicates because they control our judicinal system and our law enforcement agencies.

Every time I go under the Wellington Road freeway bridge, I always make sure I'm sitting on 100 or 99.
Guess what Today I get an infringement notice saying I'm clocked at 108 Kmh. Please tell me where we can all get together like the French Revolution and overthrow this pathetic government (Liberal, Labour or Greens). Nobody changes these things and we the average Joe keep being bullied and abused. The time is coming when we the people will become ungovernable because of political and legal injustice.

ddouble, Thu, 31 May 2012 02:38 pm:

Hi Richard, Like you I got fined in the same location about the same time. I am fighting my case through the court, and wondered if I could talk to you about your situation. Leave your contact details at ddouble1@optusnet.com.au.

Hey has anyone hurt what happened to the police woman and lawyer that went in front of the judge a few months back as I would be interested in knowing the outcome. Yes I got pinched doing 108 on eastlink Keysborough. This is the third time over the last two years... funny how its always 108 kms and the same camera. This is the same speed as the police woman was clocked doing! contact gwen.freeapp@yahoo.com thanks

I have also received 2 fines traveling on eastlink, from the wellington road bridge... one on a friday night and then again the next day. detected speed 109 and alleged speed 106 on the friday, and detected at 113 and alleged speed at 110 on the sat. Im fully aware of the cameras on Eastlink and have no need to speed along any stretch of it anytime! sounds only too similar to alot of other fines people are getting from the same place!

Drive 99'commodore wagon & deliberatly drive around 90Km/h under those cameras co's i don't trust them or the overall system in general... they stand out like dogs balls and people get plenty of notice of them coming up, am very aware of every single one of them ,THIS IS WRONG !

Is'nt it a coincidence that there are a few facebook groups about eastlink, non more so than the forever popular and appropriately named ,
" I got WRONGLY booked for doing 108kph on Eastlink "

Just received my Infringement Notice today for the Wellington Road Bridge Northbound. I travel that area about once every 2 months. I come from Geelong and always check my speed via the Check Speed Camera between Lara and Little River. As it always seems to vary with each time I go past that weekly, I pay close attention to what my cruise control is set to. My alleged detected speed was 109 km/h with the Alleged Speed set to 106 km/h. I have never had a speeding fine in my 36 years of driving.

First fine ever in my life and got pinged at 108km at the keysborough/dandenong bypass on 15 june 2011.

I thought it was total bs as I can recall exactly what I was doing. Was eating my sandwich driving on eastlink, had my GPS and it warned me of the camera. Checked my speed, speedo was 100~101kmh and GPS was 102kmh. Month later got this fine for doing 108km and googled this camera and found all this injustice.

What can I do?

Vlad, Sun, 17 Jul 2011 09:33 pm:

I now use my gps to avoid eastlink altogether.

in my tomtom after planning a route, I press find alternative, press avoid part of route and then press eastlink.

eastlink gets removed and it plans around it. Takes longer and more fuel but certainly is cheaper and doesn't cost demerit points.

Vlad, you need to take this to court and plea Not Guilty. Tell them exactly what happened - like you said on here. Do not just roll over. If in the hearing they offer to drop the fine in return for a guilty plea - don't roll over. You are not guilty - so remain not guilty.

The problem is too many people roll over and change their plea to guilty. Therefore the injustice is not even making a blip on the radar.

No blip on the radar - nothing will ever be done to rid us of this injustice.

This is crazy! why isn't anyone doing anything about this?! It angers me!
I've just received a speeding fine for an alleged speed on 109km/h at eastlink dandenong bypasss bridge. I'm pretty bloody sure i wasn't speeding but dont have cruise control or nothing to prove it. I don't have time to go to court and chase this matter up, so i'm just going to begrudgingly pay the fine and sulk :(
Has today tonight/a current affair/ any other news program done their own tests on theses areas? i'd love to see some real research in to whether this is a revenue raising scam!

I too have been caught - 108km/h alleged speed 105km/h. Know exactly the occasion - returning from football at MCG on 2nd July 2011.
No one much on road and I recall exactly my speed and necessity to get home. Would have been on or close to 100kmh. Have travelled this tollway many times over past 3 months and am always alert to the limits. I'm fricking frothing!

The same situation, I received an infringement notice of $149 due to 109kph with an alegged speed of 105kph and guess where, yep at Rowville, Wellington bridge. I couldn't possibly speed up as I am aware of the speed camera being reportedly faulty on this location.

I called them up today checking up the status of my review I requested. Had a convo with a guy named Ray and I asked him if he was aware of the problem.

He said had heard about it but seemed surprised when I mentioned all the stuff about it on the net.

I asked him what we could do about it and he recon someone could write in a letter pointing out all the references to the complaints on the internet to make them aware of the full extent of how much its been posted about on the internet.

Worth a try I guess. IF someone is writing a letter for an internal review, you should mention this site, the facebook page and any other references that can be found on the net. The internet is a very powerful tool and we should use it to our advantage and get our voices heard.

This is how it is, Tue, 09 Aug 2011 04:15 pm:

The problem is people are not maintaining their innocence when they take these injustices to Court. When the Judge offers to reduce the fine to $0 (ZERO) in exchange for a Guilty plea, this is exactly what people are doing.

Do your bit to fight back.
1) Stop using the eastlink. Cancel your account and write to them to tell them exactly why you are cancelling. What’s the point trying to save a few dollars on petrol and then getting all these scum fines by mail a few weeks later.

2) If you do get a fine, don’t just pay it. GO TO COURT, and then delay the hearing as much as you possibly can. It sends a message.

3) Tell your friends and family about it. Warn them about the eastlink and the "faulty" speed cameras and ask them not to use it.

4) Write to your member of parliament.

5) Write to the radio stations.

6) Write to your local newspapers.

7) Write to current affair TV shows.

8) Stop using the eastlink! ... cancel your account and tell them why.

Do your bit to keep the bastards honest. This cynical rip off system MUST STOP.

Sent to Eastlink...
Hi thought I'd politely let you know that I have been completely unfairly treated with an accusation of speeding on East link - upon research I find its a interesting ongoing area of debate and accuracy. I know it is not so as have vehicle tracking and actually pointed the camera out to passengers (witnesses) in the car at the alleged time well under speed - a possible error I wrote to explain this and received a standard "Unlucky we are the law and right - pay up" type of letter. I have had and accepted "fair cops" in the past but believe this to be total BS, I can not afford time to take a day off to go to court to dispute $149 and 1 point so have no option but to pay up guilty or not!
I do have an option not to use east link and will now avoid it like the plague and advise others to not use it too - that's only $25 a week or about $1200 for each of the cars that had been using East link daily in our household = $2400 a year a drop in the ocean to East link but I am happy to vote with my feet and steering wheel, I started spending the $5 on a morning coffee thinking it may take me longer - but it does not at all I still get to work and home in the same time so please pass my thanks to the Traffic Camera Office for deterring me from ever using Eastlink again!
May the return on your investment be long coming!

James, Mon, 22 Aug 2011 11:22 pm:

GOOD ON YOU !!!!

We all should be doing the exact same. I will be sending a similar letter to eastlink this week and close my account.

I also warned my friends, family about the faulty cameras and talked them into stop using the eastlink (because they risk obscene rip off BS speed fines and losing their license).

Just got one for 106, was actually doing 95 as I'm aware of this camera and the controversy surrounding it. Interesting that our state government is knowingly extorting revenue from the public unlawfully. They are shameless criminals no matter how you paint it.

I am going to Dandenong Court this month for an Eastlink fine I received nearly 12 months ago and have refused to pay because I know it was wrong. I was renovating a house in Seaford, so used Eastlink 2-3 times a week for a month setting the cruise control to the same speed all the time. Got pinged for 109kmh one night on the way home. Don't like my chances but refuse to just roll over and pay the fine.

Funny, or sad really, to observe so many similar incidents to mine. I got detected twice within two weeks a couple of months ago, both at the same 108 km/h speed. I normally don't speed so went to my dealership to get my vehicle checked and they confirmed it is spot on at 100 km/h. At the time I wasn't aware of all this, but now consider it worth investigating further. Any advise on who to contact, other than Eastlink who obviously just respond with a standard "just pay" letter?

Thomas, Tue, 06 Sep 2011 01:51 pm:

Oh, forgot to mention what you have probably guessed already, it was of course at the Dandenong Bypass bridge!!

Good luck to everyone in contesting them; I have been fighting illegitimate fines all my adult life & have an abhorrent driving record which isn't even true. I am illegally fined by the state government & the local government & will spend my life paying these massive debts which are unavoidable.
I cannot get married or have children with this severe financial burden & its criminal of the governing bodies to do this to citizens.

Class action is the only way to go, otherwise this practice will continue with some refunds being applied but most not

I am anxious to join a class action
to fight these immoral, Money reaping
systems which do not address the main
causes of road accoidents.
I will gladly contribute to and participate in
legal means to remove them!
Rod Spencer.

It has been reported in the news a few days ago that the cameras in the dendanonge bypass bridge have been taken down for maintenance and repair (a couple of days after the "POLICEWOMAN has successfully beaten eastlink speed ticket" story broke.

Government spokesmen has denied any relation to the recent court case (you bet he did).

What a bunch of scum bags. Talk about wanting to puke. So this camera was erroneously booking drives and tarnishing their driving records for a number of years now and guess what....the government is trying to quietly sweep this matter under the carpet, hoping it would not start an avalance of cases.

So to all of you folks having to deal with this state sponsored rip off....good luck in court and don’t forget to mention this new policewomen case as well as the fact that the cameras have been taken down for repair and maintenance just a few days after the court case.
I have no formal legal training, but common sense dictates that if a judge found a policewoman to tell the truth and took her word or version of the story over the speed camera reading (100% never faulty “so they claim” device), then this rais reasonable doubts over the accuracy of the speed camera reading. So anyone booked by this very camera has the right to contest their fine (AND WIN) arguing that the camera is faulty. After all, one judge already agreed that it is and took a motorist word for it!

I think that judge was simply getting tired of seeing so many drivers with clean driving records showing up in court day in day out with speed fines showing them traveling at exactly 108km/h all. This Judge got fed up with this scum and had to send a clear message to whoever is responsible for this mess.

Link to the news article about the court case:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/policewoman-wins-fight-against-eastlink-speed-camera/story-fn7x8me2-1226129693812

Good Luck In Court Folks!

P.S.
And dont forget to mention this to your friends and family. Tell them to be carfull and to try and avoid the eastlink. Or risk thier license.

Its happened to me again. Two fines one week apart. Both 8kms over (apparently) on a "freeway". I don't have the energy or time to fight this. I'll be $300 short, trying to pay off a house with kids etc.
I understand if I did it. I understand if I'm driving down a backstreet and could hit a child. But 8kms over on a freeway I pay for daily is WRONG! Cruise control was set. Its BULL@#$!

I got done on keyborough and sent in my review both came back im satisfied the offence has been committed. Now i know all of this, my problem i live in sydney. Expensive too fight it. Letter says you can not appeal again. Im going to write back say im appealing in court and when i win ill seek damages for airfare, time off work etc.

Why still uphold review with a great driving history. I travelled at 10 p at night not speeding no ideas reaally where i was going and yep pinged for 108 and 2 days later 109

i CURRENTLY HAVE 21 UNANSWERED AND 4 BEFORE THE COURTS - YOU GUESSED IT ALL WELLINGTON ROAD. THIS IS STRANGE AS THEY ARE 3 DIFFERENT CARS, ALL CALIBRATED, ALL TRAVELLED USING CRUISE CONTROLL AT UNDER 100KPH AND ALL USING NAVMAN WHO ALSO REGISTERED UNDER 100. MY JOB TAKES ME ALL AROUND VICTORIA AND INTO NSW/GEELONG/PHILIP ISLAND ETC AND NO OTHER FINES. I USED TO GO UNDER THE BRIDGES AT 70KPH IN THE END, GOT SERIOUSLY ABUSED BY OTHER MOTORISTS AND NOW WILL NOT USE EASTLINK UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. NOW IN A NEW JOB I HAVE TO TRAVEL 1.5 HOURS (AN EXTRA 45MINS) BECAUSE OF THIS. I HAVE WRITTEN LETTER4S, SEND STAT DECS, SENT CALIBRATION REPORTS AND AM CURRENTLY AWAITING THE RESULTS OF A CASE BEFORE DANDNONG MAGISTRATES COURT. I AM IN MY EARLY 60'S AND IF THE VIC POL ARE TO BE BELIEVED I AM SERIOUSLY SILLY AND OBVIOUSLY PUTTING MY FUT DOWN JUST AS I GO UNDER THE BYPASS. CAN THEY BE SERIOUS!!!!!!!!!

cactus, Fri, 07 Oct 2011 08:43 am:

its a frustrating situation. trying to beat vicpol and the people (government) that set out the rules. common sense in our society has long gone. i fear for the future generations. yet just recently we see a vicpol woman have her case thrown out because she had a witness ??? or was it because she worked for the same people responsible for issuing the fines. im glad you have the courage to fight rather than bend out of convenience like i did over ONE fine. i wish you luck in your endeavour to convince these people that they need to apply common sense. just look at all the text above here and it tells you theres something seriously wrong here.

Have just read through your comments and am now convinced (It's not just me). Try these out...Aug 16 109km, Aug 17 110km, Aug 19 110km, Aug 24 110km, Aug 26 113km, Aug 29 117km = 16 points and over $1300. Only previous fine in 20 years was 53km in a 50 zone. Just drove to Byron Bay and back, guess what, no fines. Get ready for another sucker to join the unemployment line. Any suggestions.

Ummm, I wish I had seen this site before I paid the fine. In June, I was fined for doing 108 kph alleged at Wellington Road Bridge, Eastlink Southbound. What I do not understand is how? I always travel using a GPS with cruise control on 2kms below the speed limit to account for a possible slight increase such as going down on a slight incline. As frustrated as I was to see this fine, as I had not received one in over 5 years, I simply can't see how we have to provide so much evidence to refute such a claim yet all they need is a picture taken on your vehicle and registration with a digital number claiming you went over the speed limit.

I wish I hadn't paid it now and fought the claim. So, I've gone to the drastic measure of installing two cameras in my car. One on-board looking out at the traffic giving video evidence of the location and time. The other pointed at my speedo to provide me with evidence of speed and time. These to video images together will provide me with all the evidence I need. Along with this I use my IPhone to record a history of my speed each time I travel and send the data to my email address. With multiple records I will now have of the speed traveled at any given time, this will prove just how speed cameras are purely for revenue and ripping the public off and not for saving peoples lives. I'm all for safety, but I will not be cheated by dishonest people. This is theft and if I ever receive another fine whilst driving my car past any speed camera... look out, because I'll have more evidence than the camera operators who will look pretty silly when the truth gets out.

People are fed up with paying out revenue to the government. Moreover, those who are innocent struggle to find the means to pay for something they were never guilty of yet will never be able to prove their innocence.

Police presence on our roads is what stops speed offenders not cameras. An officer on the road would never accuse a motorist of doing 108 in a 100 zone as he can tell simply by sitting behind or next to them and know... hell, even sitting back 1 km off a car you can tell if they are speeding.

I could go on and on...

ddouble, Thu, 31 May 2012 02:55 pm:

Like you I got fined in the same location about the same time at the same speed. I am fighting my case through the court. I would like to speak to you about your situation. Could you leave your contact details on ddouble1@optusnet.com.au?

4 tickets
Melba Tunnel Donvale 500m from tunnel exit
all between 6-7 pm
all at 87km/h

There is just no way, I know they are there and always go 10k below. Got even more paranoid after the 1st fine.

I just don't believe the system is working.

derat1000@gmail.com

Mattk, Fri, 13 Jan 2012 07:47 pm:

I got a notice saying I was doing 53kms and that the exit speed is 40kms - what's with this. I wrote a letter and they knocked me back. There is no 40kms speed limit on the Mullum Mullum Tunnel, Donvale, and it was at 12.30 pm??????

I'm in the same boat. Have never received a speeding fine in my life and have suddenly received 3 in 3 weeks after driving consistently along the Eastlink since June, losing 7 points and most of my wage that I would have made. Nasty surprise.

Its now not worth my time or money to continue the work out there, so kiss the claims of connecting the regions goodbye. I have no confidence that driving down that road won't loose me my license.

The traffic cameras sound like load of rubbish, if your going to accuse someone of speeding. There should be "someone" able to witness that that is what is happening. There are too many variable with machinery outdoors. SOMEONE SHOULD BE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT. We have too, why shouldn't they.

Take your cases to court people. Especially those with no other fines for many years other then the Wellington Road Overpass fines.

You can plea guilty BUT ask for the fines to be canceled (points remain though)

OR

Your second option is to plea NOT GUILTY but you will need to have a witness to say he/she was driving with you and looked at the speedo when the "offense(s)" occurred. The courts recently overturn a fine to a police woman after she had a witness to testify. This in other words suggests that the system MAY BE FLOWED and the fines are not beyond reasonable doubt....aka, arguable. After all, if the system is 100% correct 100% of the time then how come it was not 100% correct when booking this police woman.... you get the drift.

You've got nothing to lose but your time.

I managed to have two fines cancled (pleaded guilty), unfortunatly my court hearing was a month before the policewoman case. So i did not have any other arguble options.

you can have your fines cancelled without even going to court if you have not had any fines in the last 3 years. but only minor ones can be cancelled. their not doing you any favours that they dont already have in place. go to the police infringment web site and you will see all the information there. all you need to do is right them a letter pleading clemency and quote a good driving record. no need to take a day off work and appear in court.
AND if you do go to court and admit guilt, then they will never fix the cameras because according to their records, you admitted to speeding so the cameras must be right. you save the dollars now but risk being caught again by the same faulty camera next week. and you wont get let off a second time given youve admitted to speeding. catch 22 i know. the law sucks.

thats unusual to not have a speeding fine (less than 10kph over) revoked via letter,(only one infingment per 3 years) unless they were for excessive speed.
my point was they will revoke a fine if your guilty. thats great. makes you believe the law isnt such an ass. even though you admit to speeding as you may have been.
what is frustrating with these fixed cameras that have been booking everyone for 108 is they more than likely weren't speeding. even if you removed 50% of the complaints on this one web site, that still leaves a lot of room for doubt as to the accuracy of these particular cameras. then there are the presumably hundreds/thousands of others booked who never found this site and just paid the fine believing our system works.(as i did )

i paid mine, then found this site and was surprised at the outcry of so many. with the written letter system, they will revoke your fine after scrutiny AND give you your points back.
with the court outcome concerning these fixed cameras, as you stated, you still lose your points for something you more than likely didnt do and in doing so, take away any responsability the government might have to rectifying the faulty cameras.
can you imagine if it were proven that these couple of cameras were in fact faulty the ramifications for the government? millions of dollars would need to be refunded and points re instated to thousands of motorists. i believe this is why everyone who fronts court is bribed with the "we will remove the monetory side of your fine ONLY if you admit you were speeding" it removes the doubt that the cameras are indeed faulty and therefore liability on the governement.

i also dont blame anyone who accepts the bribe as it obviously saves you hard earned money and to many that is the priority.

You are 100% spot on. It is a sorry arse rigged system... you get off the fines ONLY if admitting guilt. In my case the fines are like many here from the fixed camera under the dandanong bypass. Speed... you guessed it 108km precisely for both fines, "clocked" day after day. After 25 years of spotless driving record.

The policewoman case win is an admission of a faulty camera in my opinion. Witness or not, if a judge accept that the camera is "wrong" in one case then it must be wrong in all other similar cases. She was booked doing 108km using the same camera at the same location like most here.

I find it absolutely ridicules fines are not being refunded after this case and people are still being booked by the same camera day in day out traveling 108km. How can something like that is allowed to go on in a country like Australia is simply beyond belief.

Only 1 week away from getting my full license, with a clean record. I was booked on the Wellington rd camera (109km/h)!!.

I have cruise control and use it EVERY TIME i'm on the east-link.
I am fully aware of the Wellington road camera as it has been on the current affair programs. Every time I drive pass I am conscious of my speed for that reason. If I had my car on cruise control and was 9km/h over why don't I have a fine for all the other checkpoints? (I got on at Burwood)

Also I have driven from Melbourne to Gold coast and back using a GPS. For all the 3000+ km when I would set my cruise control to 100km/h the GPS would read 99km/h. 1km/h UNDER!!!

Finally, you would have to be pretty dumb to speed on the east-link especially when passing the cameras!!!!!!
Im not that stupid!

I received 8 speeding fines while in a company car with cruze control set at 100kl/h ,the fines recorded my speed at 108 (the magic number) knocked back to 105.I travel under 4 camera sites but only one camera booked me (south bound dandy by pass)I wrote to civic comp and had 5 over turned straight away but the other three are to go to court.On monday i went to frankston court and this is what to do i pleaded quilty (bullied into by police prosecutor) if you have a good driving record (min two years)and the speed is nine kl/h or less the judge automatically overturns the fine with no loss off points case dismissed.now i have 5 overturned and 1 dismissed in court only two to go.Fight people clog up the court system the judge even said 5 kay over was not enough to be here (in court)

I cant believe how many people here have been booked by the wellington road bridge cameras.
I drive a van every day for work, use all the tollways and have never been booked up until now, when i passed under the wellington road camera, alleged speed 112kph......IT IS A SCAM, AND WE JUST COP IT............WHY?

WOW....this is crazy. I can't believe how many people have the same problem here. I just received two fines in two days at the same locations (Dandenong bypass...Southbound). All above speeds are the same as mine (105kmh alleged and 108kmh detected. Unbelievable. VicPol/VicGov rely on the fact that i like most others here simply don't have the time to fight these fines. I'm just going to pay and stop using Eastlink. Back to Nepean Hwy for me.

I just did the maths. By NOT using Eastlink i will recoup my costs ($300) in one month. Eastlink miss out. EASY.

I am going to court at the end of January, I'll be taking copies of this website with me. My fine also stated 108km/h, according to the Wellington Rd camera. Sounds like I will need to plead guilty to avoid the monetary fine, but that's just wrong. What a load of .... When will it stop?

Can some one help me with finding out why it would be 40km just before Mullen Mullen Tunnel on Dec 20th 1.00pm...4 lane freeway down to that speed???

Mattk, Fri, 13 Jan 2012 07:49 pm:

I got fined for the same exit - it cant be 40km even though thats what the fine said, I got fined doing 53kms on the exit and still got knocked back. Im taking it to court....

Robyn, Sat, 25 Aug 2012 05:23 pm:

I'm off to court to find out why it went from 100k down to 40k, I've called vic roads, eastlink and vic compliance, none can tell me why it was 40k at 1.00am the week before chistmas!...I have an excellent driving record so will fight this tooth and nail!!

Has anyone nominated another driver but not known the idwenty of the driver and has this ever worked? How clear are the photos and will they digitally be able to match the face with licence photos? my fiance got 2 fines (dandenong bipass) of 114 in my car. hes on the 12 month option so will lose his licence if i nominate him and his job as a truck driver. if i say i dont know who had my car will they be able to identify him? will i get a fine for not knowing who had my car? what about if i claim it was his elderly unlicenced grandad? will they check that or just send him a fine? or i nominate his dad (who just abandoned him with no forwarding address a couple months back) using the adress i had for him he lived at til a few months ago? will they send the fine to him there (as vicroads prob has that same old address), and what happens when they get no reply from him? do they send it back to me? when ive nominated my fiance for eastlink toll fines they send them to him and i dont worry about it anymore its cancelled from me even though he ignores and never pays the fine. so if the speeding fine were sent to an address that meant his dad could never reply to it would that be a way for me to beat it?

Another idea is claiming the special circumstances defence. has anyone successfully used this? 2 conditions must be met, a mental disorder, doa problem or homelessness backed with evidence, and secondly that this caused me to not know i was speeding, or to not be able to control speeding. this seems easy to argue those two points but has anyone tried that? do they look at and produce the photo and will i be screwed if they see its not me driving?

i intend to state that i suffer anxiety disorder with panic attacks and clastrophobia and submit a dr or psych report stating this (its true), then claim either i was stuck betewwen cars or trucks so had to speed to get out (will they see this in photos?), or even just simply i was having a panic attack and had to speed to get out of the traffic to pull over so i didnt cause an accident while i was hyperventilating and calming down. I suggest filling in the application for internal review form and getting my gb or psych to confirm my disorder in writing. What are the chances of this working? does the professional just say you have th disrorder, or do they have to detail how the condition may effect driving? will i have to go to court later and if so will it look better for me in court when the judge can see i have obvious anxiety issues and even almost having a panic attack? (i have social phobia as well and public speaking phobia and will be likely to suffer severe anxiety in court).
and my main issue is the photo, how clear are they and do they always view them when you ask for a reveiw and can they identify a driver from the photo when noone names them and the car isnt registered to them?
please email me your responses at mattythebouncer@hotmail.com as i might not get a chance to look at this forum again and really need advice and to know of anyone whose tried this defence (2 tickets same place). and i really need to know how much detail is in the photos, if someone could email me a picture of a photo that they have requested and received it would be great so i can see for myself. thanks! also any good free lawyers namews would be great. i really dont want 6 points and a fine that will take me a year to pay off, but my fiance begged me to not argue or even have it reviewed as hes terrified theyl identify him from the photo if i try to argue it. do you think this is likely? would he have any chace of any kind of defence at the fines given hes had speeding fines before? his 4 year old was in the car

James, Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:40 pm:

They will send you a copy of the photos if you choose to go to court. The picture simply show the back of the car from up above. But they may (emphasis on "may") have a copy of the car, front end. You never know, they don't tell you that...

If you have a clean driving record then I'd go to court if i was you, plead guilty and ask for the fine to be canceled (points remain). You have nothing to lose. (p.s. try writhing to the department asking for leniency before you go to court. They may cancel the fine if you admit guilt and have a clean record).

Good luck!

p.S.
dont pay the fines if you don't have to. Make them work for it... it is all one big scam!

seems that eastlink went broke,because it's too dear to use in the first place,and their favorite speed to issue people is 108kmh,funny that!!!!???
wait till they open the new section to the mornington peninsular,which they have not disclosed the tolls for that section yet????
& how many cameras will they hide on that part???
find an alternative route and let the greedy b*stards go broke...people power and mass outrage & class actions are the only things that will shake the s*it out of the victorian government & the mongrel greedy b*stards that own it. STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS!!!!
I could be wrong here but from what i remember it stated in the roads act(or similar,that any vehicle could traveel within the state toll free,any one legal out there may be able to verify if this is still the case.

I just got two fines from Eastlink for the exact same camera: Eastlink, keysborough, dandenong bypass bridge. My fist one was allegedly commited on the 1st of Jan (alleged speed 107km/h) then The next one for the 7th of Jan (alleged speed 106km/h). For the first I thought maybe it's possible I was speeding a little but after the second one I completely disagree. This is for three reasons:
1) I have a gps that goes mad every time there is a speed camera and I always go extra slow around the area.
2)The speeding fines are 1km/h apart and within 7 days
3) I did a search on the net and everyone else is getting fines for going about the same over.

Is there any way we can fight this in court as a group? I really do not want to pay these fines but what options do I have? Can anyone give me some advice on how to successfully be free of these fines?

Okay, so I've been done a few years back 108 wellington bridge, I paid it wasn't happy,
Farward to 2011 and two fines two days apart mullum tunnel both ways, exact same alleged speed of 86 km and exact same detected speed of 88km ...I drive a clapped out tarago!
Please revinew raising at it's finest. I'm off to court!

So disgusted. I also recieved 2 fines in 4 days at alleged speed of 108, Wellington Road Bride. I am looking for information of a class action because I am 20 years old, a good P plater and a uni student who can not afford this highway robbery. Please write back if you know of what action we can take next.

Michael, Tue, 21 Feb 2012 05:51 pm:

Yes I just got a notice for an alleged of 108km at northbound Wellington bridge, it is not right!

A few of months ago I received couple of speeding fines from Dandenong bypass; both within couple of days. They reckon that I was travelling both times at exactly 112km/h. I always use cruise controller, that's why I felt very strong that I was not speeding at the time. Especially that I knew that cameras are located along East link.
I wrote a letter explaining my situation, and was told that due to not being able to prove that I wasn't speeding at the time, I had to pay both fines. Can someone tell me, how are you supposed to prove it, if you are travelling by yourself???
I haven't used East link since and I will never use it again.
The whole system is just a revenue rising and it is terrible how they take money away from people for no reason and people who might not necessarily be able to afford it.
Very disappointing I must say

I cant believe this is happening, i just got 4 fines the other week in the mail, all in the space of a few days, i no longer go down the eastlink because of the camera at wellington bridge and the reports i have seen now all over the news.
claudiuprb@gmail.com

I don't believe that it is just the Northbound - Wellington Street camera that is faulty .... I have serious doubts that they haven't checked the Southbound Cameras correctly either as I too have been hit with the "Alleged 105km/h - Detected 108km/h" scenario with Cruise Control on. Unfortunately, my wife being paranoid, had just gone ahead and paid the fine on my behalf but I feel I've been unfairly booked! How the hell do you contest it now and reclaim my costs & points?

I too received a fine on Eastlink, Keysborough, Southbound for a detected speed of 109km/h (alleged 106 km/h). I always use cruise control set to 100 km/h, so I know I wasn't speeding. I will contest my fine, but I can't help thinking about the thousands of other people who take the easy option and pay these fines. What a waste of hard earned dollars. This is massive, illegal revenue raising, and I feel it is our duty to have it rectified!!!

Amanda, Tue, 20 Mar 2012 09:00 pm:

I'm in the exact same position - 4 fines, 3 more to come (went to previous owner first) exact same spot 3 of them are 109 (106) and the rest i have to wait to get in the mail. I drive from Carrum to Carlton every day from work yet all my fines are from Feb and in the exact same spot in Keysborough? Yet who are they going to believe, a 20 year old or the camera's?
I really don't know what i'm going to do. I know i wasn't speeding (cruise control) I feel like everyone that's in the same position should go to Dandy Magistrates and protest! (Not a hippy but im sick of this!)

Well hello again (see dec 22nd) i have just been to court again to fight these magic 108 km/h speeding fines this time at wellington road. People if you have a good two year driving record take a day off work and fight the dam fines i have won twice now and have one more to go.So that makes five overturned by civic compliance and two won in court.Side note upon research i found that the Australian design rules(ADR) for motor vehicles States that vehicles pre 2006 allow a speedo reading to be + or - 10% plus an additional + or - 4km/h giving a total off plus or minus 14km/h why is it that civic compliance dont recognise this fact? Oh yer thats right the revenue.Fight people take a sick day,an annual leave day and go to court at the very least you may get a reduction in the fine .

Bageman, Wed, 14 Mar 2012 01:38 am:

Gday there chief,
I'm currently preparing myself for a court case in which I am disputing an alleged 149km infringement at the Wellington rd bypass, and am trying to find the section of the ADR which states what you have here. All I could find was this: http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2007C00025
Can you offer any further support?
Cheers mate

When i went to court i explained to the judge that the company car i was fined in i have been driving for over three years all around melbourne and interstate with no traffic infringements so why is that when i travel on eastlink passing under four cameras with cruze control set at 100km/h that only two cameras are pinging me?Put doubt in his or her mind about the accuracy off the cameras.

Also have been pinged at 108k on Wellington Rd. bridge in April and will fight it. Simple advice is to not plead guilty in return for reduction of the fine. That is a dishonest way by the courts to try and encourage people to avoid clogging up the court system by challenging these charges. If that happens, complain about the magistrate's conduct to the Chief Magistrate and the Attorney-General. Be prepared to fight them all the way,and that way the message will get through.

ddouble, Mon, 28 May 2012 02:58 pm:

Further to the above, my case came before the Melbourne Mags. Court today. I mentioned the number of complaints on this website. The prosecutor would not accept this material without at least sworn statements from those people complaining. The case has been adjourned for futher mention on 30 July. Is anyone able to help in this regard? I will do the necessary paperwork. Please contact me on urgently ddouble1@optusnet.com.au for this purpose.

I drove through the mullum mullum tunnel at 12pm on 10th march. due to a large accident at the beginning of the tunnel the road was closed, so those already passed springvale road were stuck. after 90 minutes we were finally allowed through!! eastlink overhead announcements were telling everyone to park our cars, but we followed police officers who were waving us through as normal. once pased the accident everyone was driving back up to 80km/hr. once we came to the next 40km sign - 800 meters from the last sign! we all proceeded to slow back down, however have been caught by the camera 200m ahead @ 69km/hr. this = a licence suspension. have put in for a review. surely others are receiving infringement notices like this too?

Martin, Tue, 27 Mar 2012 04:15 pm:

I got a fine on the same day (10th March 2012), clocked at 48kph alleged 46kph in the 40 zone. I don't see how I could do this as we were bumper to bumper after that accident and I know not to speed in the tunnel where they have camera's any way!!!

Did anyone receive fines on the southbound/northbound dandenong bypass bridge in Feb? Need as much information as i can get... Have now received 6 fines only from Feb, even though I've been driving on it since October last year and always have on cruise control blah blah blah, but seriously if anyone has received any fines like this from Feb please let me know, amanda.rickard@hotmail.com

I received the infrigement notice for a detected speed of 115km/h and alleged speed of 112km/h going northbound under wellington rd.
Are the camera's still faulty to this date?
The fine was from March 16.
I highly disagree that i was speeding as i know of this spot and make sure i'm doing 95 - 100km/h through this strech.
HELP

I just received a fine for doing 108 detected on 17th March Northbound Wellington Rd Bridge.. I had my fiance in the car on this day and asked her to confirm the cruise control was set at 100KMH. Which it was, as we had just seen the media go on about these camera's a week earlier.
I would like to know if the only option I have is to contest this in court, or would a simple letter suffice..? As I do not want to pay or take this fine as I was not in the wrong here.

I have a speeding ticket saying I was doing 110km/Hr on 17th March, Northbound Wellington Road Bridge. My car was set in Cruise for just under 100 Km/Hr. Please advice me the options that are available to me as I do not want to pay this fine knowing I was not overspeeding as alleged in the notice.

A Fixed Camera Site Selection Committee, chaired by Victoria Police and made up of representatives from Victoria Police and the Department of Justice, assesses and recommends the locations of fixed road safety cameras in Victoria. The Committee considers the crash history of a location compared to other locations, as well as factors such as engineering suitability (whether the camera can operate optimally at the selected location). Cameras are not activated at a location until Site Acceptance Testing has been completed, confirming the location as suitable for a fixed road safety camera system.

And so I ask myself.....how many accidents have there been under the wellington road bridge and the Dandenong bypass bridge?

Am currently seeking a review of an Infringement Notice received by my vehicle on Princes Fwy Hoppers Crossing, eastbound at Forsyth Rd. Clocked at the magic 108 km/h. Had the cruise control set at 100 km/h. Unable to identify the driver in the photo - my partner and I shared the driving and cannot remember who was driving at this point. Allegedly the cameras are lane specific but 2 cars in the photo and no indication which lane triggered the camera on the photo. Sorry for posting here but can't find a similar site for this locale. Oh, it's the highest revenue earner in the State!!!

Tamojuch, Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:00 am:

Checked the status of this latest Notice online and found it has been closed, no further action will be taken. Awaiting the letter advising same. Also waiting to see if my co-driver will receive a letter advising he has been nominated as the offending driver and is therefore liable for the fine. And then the merry-go-round will begin again perhaps.

Tamojuch, Thu, 07 Jun 2012 05:09 am:

Received a letter requesting more information or pay the fine in 14 days, yet I checked the status online and I have 28 days to pay should I decide to do so - which I won't. So the more information letter is going back, but all the requested information was in the 1st letter I sent. Bureaucracy!!

NOMC, Tue, 29 May 2012 10:01 pm:

It seems the MAGIC 108! is appearing every where!
On the 23rd of March 2012 I got pinged for the alleged 108km. I know I was not doing 108 as four months earlier I got done twice in one night by the Millers overpass for doing 108 so this time I was over cautious as I know exactly where this camera is and remember explicitly sticking to 100km when going by. Unbelievable!!! Will be contesting this for sure!! I havent had my picture taken in over ten years of driving!! And get done 3 times on one road!

Tamojuch, Wed, 23 May 2012 12:26 am:

Rang them today. My request for a review is currently being considered and has been since April 2. If I have to pay the Infringement I will be given another 28 days. How long does it take? 6-8 weeks.

Tamojuch, Tue, 22 May 2012 04:38 am:

I just tried to check the progress of my review/Infringement notice online with Civic Compliance and got this reply:

Unable to locate the obligation

Please check the obligation number and offence date you have entered.
Note:

The obligation you have entered may be closed or may have been assigned to a nominated third party.
Please make sure you have entered the 'Offence Date' and not the 'Due Date'.

I returned the Infringement Notice with my review request and didn't keep a record of the Obligation number just the Traffic Infringement Notice number - which is obviously different.

I haven't received a Reminder Notice so can only hope that it has been cancelled - but why haven't I been notified of that?

ddouble, Tue, 22 May 2012 12:06 am:

Was clocked doing the same speed on 16.01.12. Was surprised by that reading, and sought a review on 10.4.12. No reply as yet. Sound sus?

Tamojuch, Tue, 08 May 2012 01:30 am:

Still haven't received a reply to my request for a review.

Tamojuch, Fri, 27 Apr 2012 06:11 am:

Still awaiting an outcome. The fine was due to be paid on 19 April and I posted the review request on 26 March. The Camera Commissioner has responded that he will add this camera to his list of complaints but nothing about the Infringement Notice yet.

I have lost my licence for 6months thanks to eastlink cameras.vic roads tells me all fines from faulty cameras are automatically wiped.i dont think this is true.iam single parent who needs car for work&to get kids to school
have been told I cant appeal decision.does anyone know if this is right?

ddouble, Wed, 06 Jun 2012 07:05 pm:

Alisha, if you have accrued too many points against your licence, you can have the decision reviewed by VicRoads, and you might be able to get a bond. It's worth trying. BTW, avoid Eastlink at all costs.

Alisha, Mon, 04 Jun 2012 02:19 pm:

I just paid the fines even thou I was sure that I wasnt speeding,then found out later that the cameras were found to be faulty.

Tamojuch, Fri, 01 Jun 2012 12:39 am:

Alisha, Did you contest the fines when you first got them or just pay them? Can you use your eTag records to show you were not speeding - get the times of entering and exiting Eastlink and go on to a directions for driving website that will give you approximate times for journey to try to work out if you were actually speeding or not. Good luck.

As stated above, I was pinged doing 108kmh on 13 April today, and am fighting my case in court. It came before Melbourne Mags. Ct. last week. I mentioned the number of complaints on this website. The prosecutor would not accept this material without at least sworn statements from those people complaining. The case has been adjourned for futher mention on 30 July. Is anyone able to help in this regard? I will do the necessary paperwork. Please contact me urgently on ddouble1@optusnet.com.au for this purpose.

Update guys 6 speeding fines feb12 - I had 1 previous speeding infringement from 1 year & a half ago. I wrote a letter to civic compliance NOT accusing the cameras of being at fault n all that crap, i wrote a letter asking for compassion blah blah blah got let off 4 fines and only copping two! People, do not write an angry letter to civic compliance, if someone needs help or has questions chuck me an email! amanda.rickard@hotmail.com

8 fines in 2 weeks all 108km/hr and i swear I never exceeded 95.
What a joke. Now I have 16 instant demerits and job threatened.
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Tamojuch, Fri, 13 Jul 2012 05:07 am:

On Eastlink or Princes Fwy? Contest them, politely. As Amanda said point your excellent driving record and you should get some waived. I still haven't heard a thing about mine - I think because we could not prove the identity of the driver (and we both have excellent driving records) and we had been using cruise control. Good luck.

I am another victim as I sit here at the frankston court I wait but they say it's impossible to have an error, yeah right. I received 3 fines at the same place same week when A I knew there was a camera there! B I travel on east link daily to go to work and do the same thing set my cruise control on 98kms and only this one week I get fined three times all in that same week, so my question is why then wasn't I fined every day for the last year doing the same thing and why didi only get charged in that one week! I say it must of been a faulty camera there is no other reason for it but now it's next to impossible to prove it!

I am another victim as I sit here at the frankston court I wait but they say it's impossible to have an error, yeah right. I received 3 fines at the same place same week when A I knew there was a camera there! B I travel on east link daily to go to work and do the same thing set my cruise control on 98kms and only this one week I get fined three times all in that same week, so my question is why then wasn't I fined every day for the last year doing the same thing and why didi only get charged in that one week! I say it must of been a faulty camera there is no other reason for it but now it's next to impossible to prove it!

This is unbelievable, Page 58 and still people getting fines incorrectly,
I am seriously thinking of going to jail rather than pay for something I didn't do... money is way too hard to get as it is.
I have been travelling on Eastlink - for eight months morning and night using my cruise control... now all of a sudden I have three fines within one week!!! All stating the exact same speed..of 108 detected- how crazy - what to do??

sam, Wed, 10 Oct 2012 04:10 pm:

You are a weakling Annette, i got 6!!!!
All six if them are for 108/105 km/ph, going to court on 19/11/2012.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Been driving there 10 times a week, for 2 months, and them WHAMMO, same story, one week, 6 fines.
Will probably lose in court, but hey, might take it further, wish there is a specific site for all the people who are in the same boat... Maybe we should exchange info so i have more people's stories on my side when it comes up in court.

Got fined on 18 of Jun in Keysborough, southbound 109, and the alleged speed is 106, I saw the comments above saying some alleged speed is 106 and some 107, which is correct?It was the peak hour and Eastlink was filled of traffice, there's no way I can speed. I'm a definately careful driver and I have my girl friend sitting next to me keep warning me on speed. My tomtom says I'm driving on 100k.

I just feel like we are so weak against them! And they can say everything.

I think next time, I have to set up a video camer that records my speedmeters when I drive on Eastlink!!!!!!

I m next on the line got infergment notice stating my allege speed was 108 k/ ph I was driving brand new Volvo truck and its been lock to 100kph from Volvo this real stupid wather Volvo or these cameras

Are we certain all camera faults are corrected now, or should new alleged infringements like Appy's be questioned? Mine is at Dandenong Bypass bridge heading south on 26 Oct, detected 111km/h, alleged 108km/h. Cruise control is disabled at the moment and I don't have a digital readout, but I can't imagine I let the speed drift up to what would be an indicated 113/114, but I can't possibly prove that. Don't think I would have temporarily sped up to pass, as you can usually just change lanes to do that at the speed you're doing. So I'm extremely suspicious of this, but what can you do? First speeding fine in over 10 years - I'm doing occasional pre-release test driving at the moment and Rule 1 is, don't get a speeding ticket! so I'm doubly cautious now, but didn't help here. At least it wasn't in the test car!

Tamojuch, Fri, 16 Nov 2012 07:29 pm:

Write a letter pointing out your good driving record, plead guilty even if you say you weren't and ask for leniency and have the fine converted to an official warning. Next write a letter to the Traffic Camera Commissioner requesting the camera in question be looked at.

Just got two fines from the notorious East-link Wellington Rd Bridge Speed Camera.

These money grabbing dirt-bags just can't help but waste my time. It amazes me how the police try to justify the whole 'cameras saves lives' campaign when it simply doesn't, and is just one big lie and poor excuse for a money grab.

Squeeze the peoples pockets further and further.. now that makes for a healthy society...

All this when my vehicle struggles heavily to even do the alleged speeds of 108 and 116km respectively.

I just received 7 from the Wellington Bridge and only just stumbled across this site. I read they have fixed these cameras would it be possible they are still faulty? The letters take so long to come in and doesnt give you much time to adjust.
They are all for fines for between 106-109km. I am still in shock, people just say you get fined for speeding but i am not sure i was and even on a freeway you do accelerate to over take particularly when you come off the monash to east link.

Tamojuch, Sat, 23 Feb 2013 06:57 am:

Contest contest contest!! Politely of course. Point out your good driving record and see how you go - even if you only get a couple withdrawn it's worth it. Good luck.

Emma, Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:02 am:

Hello, i have also just received 2 speeding fines from the Wellington Road Bridge on the 26th Feb and no i was'nt doing the speed they have detected me at im sure the cameras are out by 10-15km! i am also in shock and will be taking this matter further.

Just received a fine for doing detected speed of 118kph by Wellington rd Southbound camera, and I am almost certain I was not going that fast. I always use my cruise control on Eastlink, and I also remember it was raining quite heavily that day so it seems unlikely I would be doing 118kph. These cameras which were "fixed" are clearly out again.

What's the best way to go about contesting this fine??

Tamojuch, Thu, 04 Apr 2013 03:16 pm:

Hi Chris. Write a letter, point out your excellent driving record and ask for an official warning in lieu of the fine. However, you have to admit guilt usually for this to be successful. Also write the Traffic Camera Ombudsman/Commissioner and seek a review of the camera as well as it is clearly still faulty. Good luck

If anyone is contesting fines for the period of 31/12/12 - 12/01/13 please reply northbound wellington road bridge please reply.

Kim, Thu, 11 Jul 2013 10:20 am:

I am heading to court today to contest a 108 infringement for NB Wellington Road - Christmas Eve no less! Coming back from the beach with all the kids in the car and my husband next to me who ALWAYS reminds me to slow down extra slow for the cameras. It is possible I was doing 103 or 104 if changing lanes or passing someone but I am sure I wasn't doing 108.

I have received THREE notices since February and ALL on the Wellington Rd northbound lane. First was 108kph, second 109kph and third one 108kph again. (Funny how so many get pinged at 108kph). The first one I KNOW I was doing 97kph as I went under the alleged Wellington Rd revenue raiser. The second one I was doing 95 and the third was 90kph. Every time I go under those cameras I now do 90 but still get accused of doing 108kph and my speedo over reads by 3kph at 100.
Since 1976 I have had ONE speeding infringement in 1989 and it was paid because I was speeding yet in 4½ months I get THREE notices. I am NOT paying a fine for something I didn't do. Guess I will be doing time in debtors jail. I shall however now be buying a GPS camera so the next ones I will be able to prove myself innocent (speed fines, guilty until YOU prove yourself innocent) and then go the police for costs.
New logo for the number plates:
Victoria the Gestapo Speed State.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These guys are now mounting a high court chalange to all speed cameras in Australia.

Check them out here:
http://www.asmd.org.au/

Apparently speed cameras in their current form are illegal Because NONE have 'pattern approval' as required under the single and only legislation in Australia governing measuring instruments for Trade or any other Legal purpose., and None are 'certified legal measuring instruments' in accordance with the National Measurement Act 1960 and Regulations 1999. AND Speed cameras and Red Light cameras etc., appear to not comply with Federal legislation and also the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act.

Just got a bill for 24 Jul 2013 for speeding at 110 km at Wellington Rd. I know I was not doing that speed as I know this road very well and am very aware of the speed camera's along Eastlink. I am going to fight it because I know it is not right

Have just got a fine from the eastlink Wellington road camera. I travel this road almost everyday and sit on 100km with cruise control on. It is from the 19/12/13 and im now worried about how many more are coming.

it seems to me that the fines are random and not based on speed, but quantity for revenue. after my first in 09 i have watched my speedo each time and still got them, recently got 1 in feb and i was doing 96km, 3 weeks ago i was doing 99km and as yet still haven't received a fine. have you also noticed that the photo's never come with the speed actually on the photo like a time stamp.

No point complaining to EastLink about speeding fines, the camera's are owned and operated by vic police. Ah steve bracks at least he got EastLink to build a whole new road to toll, unlike Jeff Kennet who sold a public road and let transurban (citylink) do whatever they wanted.

There has to be something done regarding the corrupt activities of these speed cameras. East link is constructed as an extremely safe road yet the first thing the authorities did was put inaccurate speed cameras on it. The law stated that cameras would only be installed on proven dangerous road zones. Was East link constructed as a dangerous road? You only have to drive in Europe to understand how we are being exploited on a level which is nothing short of criminal. The sheer greed of our government must surely embarrass some of our police force. The government have got lazy and the profits they make from long suffering motorists has become an addiction. We all know the system is corrupt and geared to revenue. problem is our government is obsessed with the revenue stream.. This has to stop

Just received east link dandy bypass speeding fine, 23 September 2016 northbound, and the detected speed is the magic 108 kph.
My vehicle speedo reads 107 kph at gps speed of 100 kph, that means my speedo would of shown 115 kph! That's something I would have noticed.
Is this camera up to its old tricks again?

Just received 2 speeding fines on the Eastlink Keysborough Southbound Dandenong Bypass bridge. Got done for Magic 108 for both.I know I didn't do it but can't prove it. Not sure where to yo from here. Any assistance would be appreciated.

Anon, Thu, 02 Mar 2017 06:08 pm:

I was wondering if you did receive any assistance with your query?? I received two fines in two days with an alleged speed of 108 and 109. It's rubbish and I wanted to know if you contested or what happened.
Thanks

I also got a speeding fine at this location. Detected speed of 109 km/hr. I have my cruise control on. I need more people to do a class action on this one! Please anyone speak up if you have one recently.

Two fines two mornings in a row. Wellington. 108 detected. 5min from work. 15min before i start. Why speed? Habitual 100kph cruise controller. Why wouldnt you use it to avoid fines. Who depresses their accelerator in this day and age on a hiway? Why?! Cruise is avoiding fines. Nrthbound 120 detected the next day!! Car wouldve been 126 on my reading yet i use cruise and well 126?? Tjat is what a crazy person does in some mad dash hurry who likes to shoot himself in the foot thru wellington rd bridge... wouldnt you quit your job and be done with it?? Instead of losing licence by deliberately speeding.

EastLink, Rowville, Northbound Wellington Road Bridge, Rowville. This camera was last tested on 22/08/2014, I have researching on google that if its > 12 months, the camera is no longer complaint! Please someone verfify this fact as I am about to go to court.

Seems this camera on the Wellington rd overpass on East'stink' is still giving us all grief.. I copped my first speeding fine in 22 years in the mail today.. $198!!! Detected speed 110. Alleged speed 107..!! I use my speed detection alarm (set at 105k's) religiously on this road as I know about the dodgy cameras. I don't believe I was doing 110k's, I don't recall my speed alert alarm sounding. It was lunchtime (12.49pm) which is interesting as it gets pretty busy at that time with trucks heading to the Monash. I refrain from using my cruise control in heavy traffic. I fully intend on disputing the fine and question the reliability and validity of this particular camera. Has anyone else been burnt lately by these money grabbing cameras on eastlink..?

Received two fines in the space of one month at the exact same location, wellington road bridge southbound, both under 110km. Don't recall speeding through this area and was alarmed when i got a second one in the mail just weeks later. Got online and have since found all of this outcry from people experiencing similar fines. Going to contest this I am not happy with paying money for a 'speeding fine' when I am not actually speeding.

Received an infringement notice on the 5 Nov Detected speed 109 alleged speed 106 funny how i drive this road 3 or 4 times a week and always set the cruise control and this time my cruise control just happened to be 9km over the limit.
Does any one know of a way to band together and get the cameras calibrated and these fines overturned, Im sick and tired of revenue raising for such minor so called offences when the population has increased significantly over the last few years and the road tolls have not increased with population growth , VIC the Nanny state.

i just received 5 fines in the past 14 days. i have always gone up and down that road for work ive had my licence for nearly 3 years now. I have only had one fine to my name i know for a fact these cameras are dodgy as!!! i see people over take me under that bridge especially trucks and not once have i ever got a fine even for 5km over......