tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post3207157714994152635..comments2016-12-09T03:05:35.152-08:00Comments on John K Stuff: Is Hollywood Really Run By "Liberals"?JohnKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14033480276168015590noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-65842125081446894252013-06-21T09:31:09.714-07:002013-06-21T09:31:09.714-07:00I don&#39;t see anything wrong with Spongebob (at ...I don&#39;t see anything wrong with Spongebob (at least not the first season); Yes, it&#39;s conservative, but that&#39;s because it follows YOUR rules; appealing (and appeal in ugliness!), expressive design, good layouts, and off-model when it needs to be. And best of all, the characters look three-dimensional.<br /><br />Sure, they&#39;re not doing anything new, but they&#39;re doing what worksTParkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03277209600461304524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-2330084132598622852007-08-16T20:17:00.000-07:002007-08-16T20:17:00.000-07:00Spongebob is the "Log Cabin Republican" version of...Spongebob is the "Log Cabin Republican" version of Ren and Stimpy.Peter F. Bernard, Jr.http://www.blogger.com/profile/17984260321681445303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-17978877434014676162007-08-02T11:13:00.000-07:002007-08-02T11:13:00.000-07:00r:Clearly you favor one kind of conservatism over ...r:<BR/><BR/>Clearly you favor one kind of conservatism over the other. Maybe hysterical chickenshit would be a better term than conservative, but all the same, I'm glad to know that theoretically everything is great in animation.<BR/><BR/>It seems to me (somebody/everybody correct me if I'm wrong)that conservative in this context is the opposite of revolutionary. You can't say "reactionary" pappy dhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07634780939188002027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-31636584610096792182007-08-02T06:29:00.000-07:002007-08-02T06:29:00.000-07:00>>So give me some examples of non-conservative ani...>>So give me some examples of non-conservative animation. Something that's been on the air in the past year. <<<BR/><BR/>There aren't any shows to get examples from.TamalHhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584286055178176979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-83365678465598305882007-08-02T06:22:00.000-07:002007-08-02T06:22:00.000-07:00I think there's some truth on both sides. Pappy D ...I think there's some truth on both sides. Pappy D is right in saying that the entertainment industry wants to create a money-making machine. John K is right in pointing out how self-defeating they really are. If anyone has ever worked in a big business, they would know how DILBERTesque these businesses really are. They are run by scared morons who are more interested in covering their own asses Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09103645619521835925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-84346663751559311792007-08-01T22:15:00.000-07:002007-08-01T22:15:00.000-07:00John I have question for you. Would you say that t...John I have question for you. Would you say that there is no real risk in putting out any sort of films,music,etc. anymore ? There are so many ways to advertise and promote all sorts of entertainment these days. And if so, are executives that greedy and stupid they rather steal money from there companies instead of taking advantage of good ideas and pushing them through all sorts of mediums ?PCUnfunnyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00518171797365794688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-42402987264796507842007-08-01T20:27:00.000-07:002007-08-01T20:27:00.000-07:00Homer Simpson is an unimaginative Friz Freleng car...<I>Homer Simpson is an unimaginative Friz Freleng cartoon</I><BR/><BR/>HA HA HA<BR/><BR/>wowMr. Semajhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10131603833394294520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-62048749808193286052007-08-01T20:15:00.000-07:002007-08-01T20:15:00.000-07:00to pcunfunny, no, not joking. Examples?to pcunfunny, no, not joking. Examples?<b>dotter</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00934927638486123847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-31051959887142520632007-08-01T19:41:00.000-07:002007-08-01T19:41:00.000-07:00Jerry said... You know, JK, I admire the hell o...<B>Jerry said...</B><I><B><BR/><BR/> You know, JK, I admire the hell out of you. And this post is on-target.<BR/><BR/> Except, you know, your bitterness towards the Simposons is legendary. And there is no way to read your shoe-horned-in comment about them as "ultra-conservative" makes any logical sense.<BR/><BR/> To "All in the Family"? The Simpsons is far more confrontational and lastangelmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13825794418150920412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-53970291102381534462007-08-01T18:33:00.000-07:002007-08-01T18:33:00.000-07:00"So give me some examples of non-conservative anim..."So give me some examples of non-conservative animation. Something that's been on the air in the past year." <BR/><BR/>You have got to be joking.PCUnfunnyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00518171797365794688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-19687262042616425872007-08-01T18:27:00.000-07:002007-08-01T18:27:00.000-07:00Oh okay.I get it John.Oh okay.I get it John.PCUnfunnyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00518171797365794688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-64174071310298100412007-08-01T18:21:00.000-07:002007-08-01T18:21:00.000-07:00John:"They have no human feelings at all. They don...John:<BR/><BR/>"They have no human feelings at all. They don't like kids and they like creative people even less."<BR/><BR/>I see no contradiction on this point.<BR/><BR/>As for the rest of your response, I really don't see anything in that that you can't put down to simple cowardice.<BR/><BR/>">> They are trying for the best return on the least investment<<<BR/><BR/>This is the absolute oppositepappy dhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07634780939188002027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-84704943813396441522007-08-01T18:17:00.000-07:002007-08-01T18:17:00.000-07:00High school kids....WOW. Those are some pretty fun...High school kids....WOW. Those are some pretty funny high school kids. <BR/><BR/>So give me some examples of non-conservative animation. Something that's been on the air in the past year.<b>dotter</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00934927638486123847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-77960186634551672007-08-01T17:38:00.000-07:002007-08-01T17:38:00.000-07:00>>How in the world, in what world, are the Simpson...>>How in the world, in what world, are the Simpsons conservative? In the style of drawing? Certainly not in the writing.<<<BR/><BR/>>><BR/>It is conservative, it leans on the ideals on one political group.<<<BR/><BR/>I don't know what its political leanings are. That's not what I mean by conservative.<BR/><BR/>I mean it's conservative creatively. It doesn't allow for imagination in the drawing, JohnKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14033480276168015590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-75465866646690458762007-08-01T17:37:00.000-07:002007-08-01T17:37:00.000-07:00I liked this post! :)I liked this post! :)Robert Humehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01845385435580796281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-68451692995084208722007-08-01T17:29:00.000-07:002007-08-01T17:29:00.000-07:00Every 5 or 6 posts I have to answer this myth agai...Every 5 or 6 posts I have to answer this myth again:<BR/><BR/>>>These people with the money aren't stupid. They don't REALLY hate kids. They aren't evil in a Disney-villain sense.<<<BR/><BR/>They have no human feelings at all. They don't like kids and they like creative people even less.<BR/><BR/>>> They are trying for the best return on the least investment<<<BR/><BR/>This is the absolute JohnKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14033480276168015590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-29459130041406641372007-08-01T17:20:00.000-07:002007-08-01T17:20:00.000-07:00How in the world, in what world, are the Simpsons ...How in the world, in what world, are the Simpsons conservative? In the style of drawing? Certainly not in the writing. I don't get it. It's not "cutting edge" but it's not exactly Casper the Ghost, either. <BR/><BR/>I'd say Ren and Stimpy was cutting edge, but...when's the last time you saw an episode?<b>dotter</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00934927638486123847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-46227013266245029662007-08-01T17:15:00.000-07:002007-08-01T17:15:00.000-07:00elephantmarchblog:Believe me, if I knew how to fix...elephantmarchblog:<BR/><BR/>Believe me, if I knew how to fix it I would have by now.<BR/><BR/>Having read my comment above, I recognise it sounds pessimistic. I really didn't mean to be discouraging, but you can't have a solution without understanding the problem. <BR/><BR/>These people with the money aren't stupid. They don't REALLY hate kids. They aren't evil in a Disney-villain sense. They arepappy dhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07634780939188002027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-44739397684164425292007-08-01T17:14:00.000-07:002007-08-01T17:14:00.000-07:00"Sorry, I cannot see The Simpsons as being conserv..."Sorry, I cannot see The Simpsons as being conservative,"<BR/><BR/>It is conservative, it leans on the ideals on one political group.PCUnfunnyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00518171797365794688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-32393020369333080112007-08-01T13:49:00.000-07:002007-08-01T13:49:00.000-07:00To answer your main question: No, Hollywood today ...To answer your main question: No, Hollywood today seems to be far more conservative, where they seem more content on maintaining a status quo with sequels, remakes, rip-offs, etc. than liberal.<BR/><BR/>Few other things:<BR/><BR/>Sorry, I cannot see The Simpsons as being conservative, unless it's put against Family Guy or South Park, where in FG's case, that would be a blessing.<BR/><BR/>I'm not Mr. Semajhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10131603833394294520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-79718634421179126332007-08-01T12:43:00.000-07:002007-08-01T12:43:00.000-07:00>>If conservative people like to keep things as th...>>If conservative people like to keep things as they are, why aren't cartoons still made the way they used to be?<BR/><BR/>Besides what John K said about when you try to preserve something it invariably decays, we see a reactionary culture. If something "works" then everybody else thinks they have to do it too. Of course, a copy of a copy of a copy is never as good as an original.Andreashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13584746273156316675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-84463482449159662682007-08-01T12:33:00.000-07:002007-08-01T12:33:00.000-07:00All right, say we agree with you. Now what? Its ...All right, say we agree with you. Now what? Its the easiest thing in the world to sit around and point out the problem; give us the solution and then you'll become useful...<BR/><BR/>and it can't be a solution that just requires change from the artists, how do we come up with a solution regarding the people that can afford to pay for these things?elephantmarchbloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12006128869221957444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-38778455496219085532007-08-01T12:30:00.000-07:002007-08-01T12:30:00.000-07:00Revolution is upsetting because it involves breaki...Revolution is upsetting because it involves breaking things. Rotten things.<BR/><BR/>Liberals have a blind faith in the Enlightenment notion that children are a blank slate onto which we can write whatever we please. They'll face any suggestion that there IS such a thing as innate human nature as heresy or a Nazi biological determinist plot i.e. a threat to the idea that we can be improved & to pappy dhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07634780939188002027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-61212719254845540682007-08-01T12:12:00.000-07:002007-08-01T12:12:00.000-07:00About Barak Obama I have to honest when I say I ha...About Barak Obama <BR/>I have to honest when I say I haven't been following American Politics lately. I just moved to the Uk and we have a constitutional monarchy. The most exciting thing going on here is whether or not Brown will Bush's bitch (and it looks like he will be). Still I am an American, so I am interested in the up comming Presidential race, only I don't care who wins. I can't vote, kate yarberryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03875094733695356028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-88798487395267684862007-08-01T12:09:00.000-07:002007-08-01T12:09:00.000-07:00>>Here's another twist on common perceptions: Whil...>>Here's another twist on common perceptions: While the most on the Right will freely complain about things that offend them and even use their freedom to avoid such things, there is almost no attempt to get Government to censor.<<<BR/><BR/>WHAAAAAAAT!? What planet do you live on, R? Most of the censorship in the US comes from right wing groups! Right wing Christians in particular. <BR/><BR/>HaveJ. J. Hunseckerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04067327948394872768noreply@blogger.com