Tokyo’s manga ban has been signed into law after passing a final vote, and is set to come into effect in 2011, with Tokyo governor Ishihara crowing that “Japan still has some common sense left after all!”

All the major parties supported the ban – the ruling DPJ (leftist) insisted on a “prudent application” rider but otherwise did nothing to oppose the law as they did with the previous bill.

The LDP (right-wing) proposed and supported the original and current version of the bill. Their usual coalition partners, the Koumeito (the political arm of a Buddhist cult), also supported the bill, leaving only small parties to the left of the DPJ to oppose it.

Once again the motives of the DPJ can only be guessed at – they have repeatedly blocked national bans on possession of child pornography (already illegal to distribute) on civil liberties grounds, opposed the previously rejected version of the bill because it was worded as a ban on “virtual child pornography,” and actually insisted the just passed Tokyo law remove a “duty not to possess [real] child pornography” clause.

However, when the current bill’s wording was changed to ban depictions “promoting illegal or immoral sexual activity” (effectively a vastly more far-reaching ban than previously) rather than “[virtual] sexual activity involving minors” (this version of the ban was clearly targeting loli manga) as in the current version, their previous opposition all but evaporated.

That the law explicitly excludes photographic material can probably be interpreted both as a specific attack on “otaku” culture and an effort to avoid antagonising Japan’s mass media, who obviously would not support any restrictions on themselves but are only too happy to support them on other industries.

The 10 publishers who have boycotted the Tokyo Anime Fair are angry at the treatment meted out to the industry by Ishihara and his cronies:

“The earlier bill was defeated with heavy opposition, and we are indignant that the bill should be resubmitted in so short a time.”

Kadokawa’s CEO has vowed opposition will continue, although just what publishers can do about it is not clear, particularly in light of their evident ineptitude in handling politicians.

Ishihara for his part is crowing over the industry’s defeat:

“It makes sense for this to have passed – Japan still has some common sense left after all!”

In interviews he merely laughed at the industry boycott:

“If they’re outraged about this then they shouldn’t come. They’ll come the next year, for sure.”

Veteran shoujo mangaka Machiko Satonaka speaks of complete betrayal at the hands of the politicians:

“There were representatives who promised us ‘we won’t resubmit the bill without consulting manga and anime producers,’ but they submitted it anyway, so I feel we were tricked. There are many issues with the ordinance, in particular the ‘improperly promote or glorify [sexual activity]’ passage, and there is no way we can accept this.

In particular, I worry about the future for young mangaka – I hope they will persevere without the industry falling into decline.”

on another note:
too bad this isn't like the situation for like Napster/Music Pirating, Movie Pirating, WikiLeaks, etc... as I don't see much of a way (other than abolishing this shitty law) to get this ban. Even if it goes underground, the chances of it getting money from it is kinda low (unless there is something I'm missing...)

Good Job Japan, you just screwed the pretty much only industry that I had an interest in (that made it that I was interested in you, Japan), but you just killed it (a dying industry anyways) prematurely. Which is just retarded.

@zhurai
The Anime/mangaka artist can put it on the internet (pay on demand or advertisements...) and produce it from outside of Tokyo and since it will be on a smaller scale starve the publishers out since the publishers take most of the money anyways according to past articles and other sources.

Some people like Ken Akamatsu are already doing this plus instead of wasting time confronting the publisher empire like some people were saying Akamatsu should make his operation worldwide recruit the fansubbers and break the xenophobic mold and starve out the greedy publishers the anime/manga industry would then fly high into the 22nd century!!!

We cannot not let this oppression to Japanese culture stand. No matter if you believe if anime, manga, visual novels and games to be a big or small part of Japan's culture, this law is meant to silent those they find not suitable.

When you start censoring the ideas of the people, you start taking away a part of its culture. Inevitably this leads to the deterioration of the culture. Which is why I so strongly condemn this law. The people should not have to be silenced in order to preserve some archaic notion of what Japan is. They should be allowed to evolve their culture as they see it and let the people decide what they want to do with it.

Those who agree with this, I urge you to join me and the Black Knights to speak up against this travesty of a law to move Japan's future forward!

Kadokawa the heavyweight will surely obliterate the arrogant assholes! ishihara will go down as THE WORST POLITICIAN of JAPAN hell, the Otaku can't stay in this degenerate state reedom of expression is being violated Freedom of speech will be stripped, this will leave MILLIONS in UNEMPLOYMENT! Japan will sink further downwards if Ishihara criminalizes Homosexuals The whole world will be on his ass faster than you could say DIE!

don't give up, never back down join your sisters and brothers and buy the manga accused and proclaim "Rise up Otaku, Freedom for all!" before you know it Tokyo will have died...

for a new Future! "a new Tokyo!"

we must side with our enemies to be defeat our common foe.
For God!
For Haruhi!
For Nagato!

I know, I know I've let you down
I've been a fool to myself
I thought that I could live for no one else
But now through all the hurt and pain
It's time for me to respect
the ones you love mean more than anything

So with sadness in my heart
(I) feel the best thing I could do
it's end it all
and leave forever
What's done is done it feel so bad
what once was happy now is sad
I'll never love again
my world is ending

* I wish that I could turn back time
cos now the guilt is all mine
can't live without the trust from those you love
I know we can't forget the past
you can't forget love& pride
because of that, it's killing me inside*

It all returns to nothing,
it all comes tumbling down,
tumbling down,
tumbling down
It all returns to nothing,
I just keep,
letting me down,
letting me down,
letting me down

In my heart of hearts
I know I could never love again
I've lost everything,
everything that matters to me matters in this world
(Get back to *)

It all returns to nothing
it just keeps tumbling down
tumbling down
tumbling down
It returns to nothing
I just keep letting me down
letting me down
letting me down

so all that will be left are "fan arts"? or is that illegal too? fuck this shit its time for war! :V

deploy all available leek probes to Ishihara's anal cavity! send out all available Miku drones to Tokyo on the double! we can't allow this to spread any further than it has already we must root out this weed before it begins to grow damnit! >_<'

'so all that will be left are "fan arts"? or is that illegal too? fuck this shit its time for war! :V '

Yes, but it has to be the right kind of war.

Propaganda war.

A bunch of ugly neck-bearded men saying, "We will shove leeks into the mayor" is just boring. They wouldn't even put it on TV.

However - suppose you got a bunch of 16-year-old girls to dress up in anime costumes and protest in public. That might get on the news - sex sells. If it's foreigners, Japan might not care, but if it's Japanese girls saying, "We are your future, and we demand anime" or "Freedom of speech means freedom of fan service" they might notice.

Actually, I'm having a brain-wave. I live outside Japan, but there are a fair number of cosplayers in my neighborhood.

If we could get a Japanese studio (Gainax, Ghibli, whoever) to specifically endorse and license and sell us cosplay outfits, that would be a clear show of support. The studio would get some cash money, the fans would have a way to get attention while protesting.

Cosplayers, in my experience, love attention. They will put on any kind of revealing outfit to get in front of a camera. That is a force of nature that could be useful to a public information effort.

Fuck up, faggot. I live in the home city of the yaks and they're a bunch of bitches. So much shit goes on here between Americans and yaks that doesn't reach the news, and they're a bunch of pussies who only bully pussy Japanese faggots.

I'm not one to call for riots... but yeah... fucking riot. If old men don't listen to words, perhaps a floor lamp jammed unceremoniously up their ass will grant them the illumination necessary to unfuck themselves.

I wonder if they could do to him what was done to the woman who tried to bash on the Mass Effect sex scene, and call to ban Ishihara's book due to violating his own law and cause a scandal because he's a hypocrite and voted for something he himself is condoning in literature...

Oh well, killing him slowly with paper cuts as he is forced to re-read the rape scenes in his book backwards sounds more entertaining.

don't worry, I'm sure 2ch is figuring out a way to hack the government website to give them shit.
they'll lay traps then go into politician's computers and dig up evidence of cp and whatnot. I bet those closet-hiding politicians were just keeping the real little girls to themselves.

I'm as pissed about this as anyone else, but really who's going to riot?

Otaku? Most of them can't look a person in the eye, they'd never be able to riot. A few might have the guts to protest in some way, but overall they're just going to be ignored.

Considering they let it happen, I would think a normal person who reads manga casually will also not riot. They just aren't invested enough, and unless the goal is to start pissing people off the most popular manga won't be banned anyways. (Naruto, One Piece, etc.) Overall that means some of them might not even know what just happened.

Publishers? They were so fucking dumb they couldn't nip this in the but to begin with, fucking worthless pieces of shit need to die in a fire.

Riots aren't happening. Now 2chan might do some digital terrorism, but I have a feeling that it will backfire. Most people are ignorant enough that someone digitally attacking another person in order to put out demands, just causes them to fear the attacker and doubt their cause.

Well I kind of understand HL's point of view but I don't see the outcome you see. Otakus are essentially outcasts, and looked down upon. I worry about one feeling cornered enough to harm people or themselves.

English is my first language. You just don't understand at all what I am talking about, or what you're talking about for that matter. I'm speaking from objective psychology and history. You just proved one of my points as well. Galileo was burned for his good contribution, which was the definition of the 'vice versa' I mentioned in the sense that the bad happened, he was burned. Good came from his paintings and ideas, which also birthed bad, which also birthed good in the future from his burning as a martyr for science. I was speaking of the sine wave of balance that ALWAYS follows the same pattern. No matter how bad, the future brings good, no matter how good, the bad will come. Those who do not understand that are the ones who are doomed to repeat that cycle, ie - people like you.

Also, the Klan and bullies are both representations in the mind of those who deal with them, and the people they represent. Bullies are more personal, the Klan is more national. Symbols both. You don't think the presence of something so blatantly obvious and over-exaggerated as the Klan wasn't instrumental in the presence of Martin Luther King and the subsequent acceptance of African Americans? And if you're going to hop on their current cultural representation of gangs and inner cities, that is the subsequent bad. Before they had to be better than us, in every way, to be perceived as accepted. The after-effects of that are worth looking into, because to say what causes it will get me called racist for saying things like 'some black communities became self-righteous and "lazy" after they lost their most powerful leaders.' Everyone will look at that and say "You racist bastard" and they will be thoughtless idiots who have no understanding of objectivity in history.

The sine wave of positive and negative effects requires a wide perspective to see in context.

There will be those who do such. And I stick to Darwinian logic in that facet unfortunately. The weak-minded will fall, it's the way of things. Compassion will be there for those who need it and those who seek it, but some will leave the planet because they have chosen to. Not every death is a tragedy, and not every life is worthy. We are taught to believe otherwise, and I personally believe with enough time, every single human can be shown light and love. But the reality is sometimes the difference in that time is the difference between 100 other innocent lives being lost to save that one.

The generals of history were the generals and leaders because they were the ones who recognized that they couldn't mourn every casualty if they wanted to prevent more.

Houselife, I don't think you understand a word you're saying. In fact I hope English isn't your first language.

"No matter what you may think you know, the only time it would happen is if someone wants power over another person"
Do you realize the point of being a politician? We even have terms like "class struggle" for a reason.

"My entire purpose was nothing ever comes with all negative, nothing. Any single historical occurrence you can come up with, on a long enough time line, will also have positive effects. And vice versa."
That's a whole lot of meaningless nothing. "Everything is good and bad?" Believe it or not, a lot of things can be mostly bad. Which is why we're not celebrating the church's contributions to progress by burning Galileo.

"And ironically the examples you chose of bullies and the Klan actually do work in historical context."
Yeah... both making sure their targets have less resources, opportunities, and support, with a higher chance of turning to crime or suicide. Really helps them accomplish things rather than generally setting social progress back. Oh, but the Klan and Biff from Back to the Future were hilarious sometimes. Either that counterbalances everything, or you never touched a history book.

I don't know what after school special you live in, where there is no class struggle and all problems are there just to build character, but I'm with the other Anonymous. Houselife, you are an idiot. Any thought or joke you have, even on a long enough time line, will not have a positive effect.

I'm not an idiot. These people do everything they do because of fear, and because of that fear they lack the perception to see possibility. When one is truly stupid, they are completely unable to see beyond themselves and unable to form coherent possibilities in the face of adversity, even such simple possibilities as asking for help. Not liking the real world is the epitome of being spoiled and pathetic, because if you don't like the real world, you do something to change it. The issue is they don't have the perspective to SEE how to change it, and that's because they lack the experience, and that's because they've given up.

These people have stagnated, and that is one of the worst things a human can do, because stagnation means that they essentially go into mental do-loops unless they know how to get themselves out of it.

And by the way, blaming 'the world' is a generality, and many childish people do it. The world isn't the problem, it's YOUR world, your perception of it, that is the problem. Notice how whenever anything goes wrong in your world, you're the common factor in it? That means that when it goes right, you're also the common factor. And yes, it really is that simple.

Like how bullies try to help social outcasts stand up for themselves, and the Klan makes minorities rise to greater heights to disprove stereotypes? Of course not. Society wants people with an unpopular image to stay down, be stepped on, and know there place. Having nothing to turn to got them there in the first place and the whole point is to preserve that power balance. The people on top need someone to exploit or at least scapegoat.

Deviants and minorities, whether harmless or even imaginary, are icky. Right or wrong doesn't matter; society will crusade against cooties until the end of time. They make sure they stay outcasts. Making sure they "stagnate" is just part of the goal. All otaku are child-molesting psycho murderers and homos are godless, mutant, man-rapists out to destroy our daily values. What kind of monster would you be to even consider their side?

"the only time it would happen is if someone wants power over another person"

One will always want power over another, so...

And yes, brain-dead otaku are of course unwanted by political figured running Japan. HL hinted about multiple possible outcomes which was the correct thing to do.
They're basically given three choices (simplified so the point is understood):
1. Accept that we're fucking you up and die while crying, if you're that useless we don't NEED you, because not commencing this ban would also just result in you dying alone while not helping the country's scientific/etc development.

2. Change your ways. If your house gets broken down, you can move out; here your hobbies are getting broken down, so just move on to a new one, you have your entire life ahead of you, and we want YOU to help your country (aka this would be a sort of patriotic direction)

3. Do something to show that you're alive, protest. If you guys actually care about your hobby and are not psychologically dead, you CAN organize yourselves and stand up against us. We don't believe that you can do this, though, which is why we'll continue raping your life.

You've got it, hence why I said there's such a presence of irony. Being angry is a great way to cause action to occur, but they're the type of people who bottle up their anger unless they believe in something. And with this assault, they are struck with the chance to actually do something about it. What I was saying above, was it would be interesting if that were Ishihara's purpose all along. A sort of Ledouche if you will :)

First of all you don't understand at all what I said. If you did, you would realize you're using 'stagnate' in a way that doesn't really even make sense with the context I was using. Stagnation means they stop growing, stop moving forward, stop learning, losing all purpose in their lives. Nobody ever wants that to happen. Nobody. No matter what you may think you know, the only time it would happen is if someone wants power over another person, and then it can be traced back to jealousy and fear anyway. Such intentions are never pure intentions, but based on their own mind tricking them.

And you're also incorrect that society wants the unwanted to 'stay down' it's more than they want them 'not in their back yard.' And ironically the examples you chose of bullies and the Klan actually do work in historical context. My entire purpose was nothing ever comes with all negative, nothing. Any single historical occurrence you can come up with, on a long enough time line, will also have positive effects. And vice versa.

My point was objectivity, since I already called for this man's death above. But I'm also not shallow or stupid enough to ignore alternative perspectives. I am, however, stupid enough to think they would be understood on an internet comment forum :D

Actually the sheer potential of irony hadn't passed me by initially either: there's a chance this is a challenge by Ishihara to cause Otaku to rise up and be more than they are. Really the perceivable point of all this is to enhance the economy, and keep Otaku from becoming lumps on a log. If there's a single thing that I agree with their government on, it's the goal of getting the younger generation out and socializing and contributing as much as they can, and not succumbing to their own imaginations, but using them as a tool of empowerment.

If that did happen, I'd honestly have to smile. But only if said uprising triggered a rescinding of this stupid law.

*facedesk*
"FUUUUUUUUU......."
i dont think "common sense" really is the term for it...
they have officially signed the bill that will doom Japan.
To all you 日本人 out there... you can thank your dumb as bricks political leaders for taking your country into a permanent recession...

Too much regulation on a creative industry will not give a positive effect as some hope, especially in manga where they like to push limits - the reason that makes it great.

But this isn't over. I see this as merely a wake-up call. While everyone was living in otakuland unaware of things happening in the 3D world, they let this slip through with very little opposition from fans. Even Tokyo's most otaku-despised governor, was elected three times despite obviously being a nut.

I say, it's about time publishers, otaku, mangaka and general manga readers organize and stand up and fight to overturn this.

yea, pretty much
at this point im not angry at ishihara and gang anymore, cos blaming idiots for being idiots is idiotic
the problem is that nobody, including all the affected parties, did anything
publishers boycott the tokyo anime fair? how toothless is that?
i can only sympathise with ishiharas reaction here "oh, you are not coming? that all? fuck you"
apparently publishers are only capable of bullying mangaka, but when they have to actually stand up and fight they pout
useless

honestly, I'm kinda hoping that manga companies move to a different city, and Tokyo just economically dies (or fills with actual crime? Just saying) until Ishihara goes down as one of the worst politicians in existence and his frivolous and illogical law gets removed. Still find it funny that we have a modern "Comic scare" on our hands, tho.

you are aware that "i'm just going to ignore the law" isn't really a defense against a law right?

ishihara and his cronies will be happy to continue to fine you, and eventually if publishers continue to evade their fines, they'll probably move on to heavier penalties such as incarceration of the publisher heads for failure to the fines.

the law has an effect as long as the government has the ability to enforce it.

Popular policits are like that, politicians only care about the majority opinion and not even that outside of the election period.

Two-party systems are the most corrupt. All candidates will be in the middle and there is just an illusion of elective power because all the candidates are, in the end, pretty much the same. Two-party systems also cause severe societal stagnation.

I was talking about this with my friend earlier... he was saying "If they can't sell the shit legally in japan... why not work on it in japan then sell it online or have the American companies that dub the series sell it?" I do feel for some anime that'll work but for the most part that may not work... *Sighs* I need a hard brew right now... seriously I hope... I seriously hope something happens within these next 4-7 months or we're FUCKED!

The beginning of loli manga crime is soon to follow, just like most ban that make things illegal.

Also, I just hope that the dumb people that elected that loser will stop voting him in again next time.

Now I want to know if Komoe-sensei will be alright still because of her age, like how the US will change the age and background story of some character to make them older with the growth problem w/o changing their outer-appearance.

I dunno about fucked, but it is a shame.
The road ahead is bound to be an interesting one. Will there be a sudden increase in anime with good writing? Is the industry REALLY floating on the sales from sex-related anime/manga/merch/etc.? Things have been shook up, and I'm confident only the strongest in the industry will pull through to the end.
Try to look for the positives in everything.

@ Anon 18:50
It would not be that bad if the ban was only applied to sexual content. The problem is that they can censor any representation of virtual crime, ranging from violence to drug consumption, etc...
Basically any work that is not considered "healthy" and harmful to child development will have the risk of being canceled. And I cannot think of any great work of fiction that does not show at least one "crime".
I guess all we have left now is Pokemon...wait, it promotes animal torture!
shit...

The minorites are the majority. Most people are part of a minor intrest group. Wether it is anime/manga/games , stamp collecting, idol fans, suduku fanatics, or a particular religious group. Picking on one minority alienates that voting block, alienate enough of them and you are totally jugged. Soon there will be an okatu party, they may not elect many officials, but those are votes that the major parties can no longer count on.

Anonymous 04:32, that is EXACTLY what is going to happen.
We are going to see MORE real life child rapes or people having sex with willing real life children if this law stands (which I doubt it will).

Maybe that is the whole point of Ishihara: to get pedosexuals to come out into the open and demand their right to proposition children and have sex with them if the child consents!

it might work - imagine how many more subscribers channels like anime network would get if they were broadcasting completely new series instead of things that have already aired in japan. DVD sales overseas would jump because it would be the only way to access uncensored versions (unless anime network or a competing network took an HBO-esque approach).

Although I completely disagree with this shit but we all know that Anime is getting too ecchi these days. There was barely any nudity in Animes before but now there's a whole bunch. I guess we're going back to pantsu and bras instead of boobs and asses, if you know what I mean.

if any one thinks about raping a child or does so must be sick in the head and should be locked up for life.... OR DIE. just cause your 2d child porn wont be around doesn't mean you go rape children. that's just disgusting.

That funny 'cause last time I checked most antions in the world have their own form of Pedosexuality. Child brids in mideast. Child brides in some relgions here. If you are in a country where the age of consent is 12, no crime done, no hamr inflicted. And if you are actually naive enough to think kids are doing kids in more ways than you can imagine right now, you've missed all the stories of 8-12 year old rapists.

Anonymous, no, those people are not sick in the head. The fact is that pedosexuality is a NORMAL sexuality and when you force people to be sexually celibate when they don't wish to be.... you get people like the killers of the various children over in America who were raped beforehand and Ted Bundy for homosexuals (when homosexuality was still looked down on).

Interfering in sexual expression is a FUCKING BAD THING TO DO! Not to mention that it is totally against human rights: both the right of the adult AND the right of the child, which by the way, contrary to popular opinion...... children do have human rights, the same ones as adults in fact.

Don't be a moron. In some places a 17 year old is considered a CHILD. Now tell me, hwo is a 17 year old a child? Yet you can be arrested for child rape by sleeping with one that is willing? If they are done screwing other teens that is. A 18 year old can get in toruble for sleeping with their 14 year old bf\gf for fucks sake. Stop trying to slap CHILD on anything that is not 30+

Besides, according to this stupid law raping or fake raping is all fine and good as long as it's done by people and not drawn or animated.

'Interfering in sexual expression is a FUCKING BAD THING TO DO! Not to mention that it is totally against human rights'

San Com is not the best place for a detailed debate on ethics.

However, your argument lacks rigor.

If there is some objective morality (enforced by some ultimate Buddha or Amaterasu or whatever) then the source of that objective morality dictates whether sexual expression should or should not be interfered with.

If there is not objective morality, there's no "good" or "bad" to anything.

so are they going to change Akihabara into some kind of arcade town? did that fake unicef seduce that old guy? if akumetsu is real it will be scary. this is stupid, they're near a fucking neighborhood war zone and they're focus on manga ban.

Yes they can publish and sell outside of Japans biggest city. You realize the majority of profits come from Tokyo. If it can't be sold properly in Tokyo most publishers wouldn't even bother making them at much of a large scale.

In this day and age of electronic media, wouldn't it mean moving the production outside of Tokyo and then letting buyers "import" it in over the internet?
If anything its a blow to traditional broadcasting mediums as people migrate from simple television to more advanced systems like Google/Apple TV.
Its an upgrade long in the waiting.

As Japan changes, so will the world. The need for new and cheap electronic equipment will be a boon to Chinese manufacturers.

Economic battles (and I include government action to ban, restrict, or tax things as part of this) frequently take place to control creation, export, and import of a product/service.

If anime/manga production moves from Japan to, say, Korea, and they distribute electronically, the forces behind the restriction/ban/call-it-what-you-will just pass another law which makes the possession or importation of the restricted materials illegal.

Or, possibly, equipment which makes importation of the restricted materials possible (sort of like "possession of burglar tools" - I can use an axe to chop wood, or to break into a house).

Relocation, thats what will happen... yes Tokyo is one of their major cash cow but thats what they can do to avoid the ban, relocating their companies, creating, and selling them at places other than Tokyo itself actually benefit the other prefectures and cites. Its time Tokyo face more recession where one of their industry moves away helping other cities. Make Tokyo be a rioting city and Akiba the ghost town...

As I said people, the more likely scenario is this being taken to court on Free Speech grounds (the Japanese do have an analogue to that) and overturned as being way too broad of a law and against human rights as well.

Oh, and by the way, Anonymous.... they CANNOT make it illegal to possess something, without good reasoning.

But their profits drop regardless right? So what is there ot lose. If they sell stuff people don't want, they won't buy. Still, at anyone that reads this, how is this different from the ratings in the states? And look at how well that is working on keeping 'mature' content from kids.

Fucked hard my friend. We are fucked hard. School days manga and anime are bound to disappear because it's a horrible crime to depict schoolgirls in their uniforms. I think they should go and arrest all students for the crime of looking at schoolgirls. The girls included. They have no shame after all! Oh and let's not forget the parents that see their daughters off to school, what a filthy behavior.

They'll only get more ambitious now. They won't be satisfied til all ero-manga (especially loli) is completely illegal (while they fap to real child porn that they've stored away since it became illegal to distribute).

Anime and Manga should just be moved to the states. Everything that comes out in the states are censored because of the high tolerance and good infrastructure. We would never have to worry about censors ever again.

"Anime and Manga should just be moved to the states. Everything that comes out in the states are censored because of the high tolerance and good infrastructure. We would never have to worry about censors ever again."

at least some people can view it with a smile on the face
as if US wouldnt censore the shit out of it as prude as they are

I hate these kind of trolls...they think we are stupid. Otaku come in all sorts little man, we just don't outright brag about how much smarter we are then you...it's more of a....err...competition in talking bullshit.