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Sometimes Spurrier's nonchalant approach to coaching is infuriating. Get these 3rd year players a true evaluation of their NFL chances before they end their college careers too early. Spurrier's philosophy is let 'em go if they want to go. BS! Sit these guys down and convince them to stay. South Carolina doesn't reload, we unfortunately rebuild--we need more senior leadership.

Ace got drafted in a good position, and is doing ok. The really instructive story is the difference between Captain M and Vic. Munnerlyn has super-quick feet and is a true 4.4 guy. The NFL evaluation team gets a big lol for convincing a 5' 9.5" CB (Hampton), who showed up at the combine and ran a 4.68, that he was a 3rd round pick. That's not an isolated case - 42% of the underclassmen who declared last year went undrafted. They've changed that, but it's not going to help Vic (or us) now.

The NFL evaluation team didn't not convince any player they were a 3rd pick. They give 1st Rd grades, 2nd Rd grades, and 3rd or later grades. These 42% were dumb kids that took a 3rd to 7th Rd to UDFA to mean they were 3rd round players. They listened to the wrong people. Hate it for vic and Kelcy but they shouldn't be surprised

I have an issue cause it's cost us games we should have won every year after they leave. We wouldn't have lost to Tenn had Ace stayed and we probably would have hoisted our first SEC and national title banners. It sucks then most of them get cut anyway.

Be careful here every time I mention that this player and that player should have stayed I am labeled a selfish fan that only cares about himself. But I agree that having so many players leaving early has hurt us and for anyone to say that our defense wouldn't be better with #99 and #27 out there again this year they are just looking for a reason to fight on here because that is Ludicrous.

Be careful here every time I mention that this player and that player should have stayed I am labeled a selfish fan that only cares about himself. But I agree that having so many players leaving early has hurt us and for anyone to say that our defense wouldn't be better with #99 and #27 out there again this year they are just looking for a reason to fight on here because that is Ludicrous.

I for one really miss them. What a difference it would make if they had stayed for all accounts.

they thought they were 2nd round picks. the evaluation was in that range and multiple mocks had them in the 2nd round after they declared. the problem is the teams havent picked apart the film at that point and there havent been any workouts. those pre-declaration draft grades are generally meaningless. thats what guys have got to realize. its a gamble, but almost all athletes think of the upside rather than the downside. the other side of that is risk of injury where an athlete thinks im healthy now, i have a shot. if i come back and get injured i'll possibly have no shot.

they thought they were 2nd round picks. the evaluation was in that range and multiple mocks had them in the 2nd round after they declared. the problem is the teams havent picked apart the film at that point and there havent been any workouts. those pre-declaration draft grades are generally meaningless. thats what guys have got to realize. its a gamble, but almost all athletes think of the upside rather than the downside. the other side of that is risk of injury where an athlete thinks im healthy now, i have a shot. if i come back and get injured i'll possibly have no shot.

It also gets affected by the number of juniors coming out. You may be a 3rd, but if 40 juniors come out, that's over a round's worth of people right there.

Quarles was picked up by the Patriots, BTW.

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It's time that our coaching staff was a little more proactive about convincing the borderline jr.s to come back.

Like everyone else I wish those Jrs, who entered the draft early that are now being cut, had stayed to help us in their Sr. years, IF they were academically eligible. I recall that there was at least one or two that did not have the grades to keep their Sr. year eligibility. Am I remembering correctly?

As far as counseling the Jrs. to stay - I believe the coaches have always said they should stay in school unless they are projected as a first (maybe second) round probability. Maybe the coaches can and should say more, but they have to be careful. Ex. - tajh boyd might could have negotiated a better deal after his "better" Jr. year, and yet he was still cut. He might have more money in his pocket now, though it is probable that he would have been cut as a Jr. just as he was as a Sr. Also, injuries happen. Taking an early out when you are healthy as a Jr. is not a stupid choice, IF you are drafted high enough to make good money including a bonus.

Sometimes Spurrier's nonchalant approach to coaching is infuriating. Get these 3rd year players a true evaluation of their NFL chances before they end their college careers too early. Spurrier's philosophy is let 'em go if they want to go. BS! Sit these guys down and convince them to stay. South Carolina doesn't reload, we unfortunately rebuild--we need more senior leadership.

Spurrier has said before he doesn't sway kids either way. That way, if he tells them they should go pro and they fail, they will blame him. And same if he tells them they need another year. I understand his approach.