Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:12:32 PMHa ha, kind of like the Joker had a different story for his permanent grin. And I have seen real genius - I in fact, adore it. But I just don't remember that particular line. Shame

Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:53:28 AMSuicism-" think the girth of the pickles is an Oedipan symbolism"

Actuallly, it just a quote from a very good movie. (Real Genius)

And the thumb is Horst from Ratatouille, who always had a different story: "I defrauded a major corporation." "I robbed the second-largest bank in France using only a ball-point pen. " "I created a hole in the ozone over Avignon. " "I killed a man... with *this* thumb. "

Wednesday, March 20, 2013 10:09:59 PM@HG I've successfully run my own business since I was 20 and I'm starting up my third right now.Let's hope this one actually turns a profit.

I use the term "stupid liberal f***tard" to refer to people whose contribution to society is considerably LESS than zero, i.e., the country and the world would have been a better place had they never been born.

Wednesday, March 20, 2013 7:14:07 PMHoly God - "If your business is such that you need 40 more hours a week of labor but you can not afford $360 a week in wages then you are a failure at running a business. "

Demand in of itself is not an indication of failure on the part of the entrepreneur, unless he is selling something nobody wants - and demand is affected by a variety of factors, including those outlined by MeGrendel below.

The influence of demand also sufficiently addresses the first paragraph of your rebuttal.

Wednesday, March 20, 2013 7:09:25 PMI think the girth of the pickles is an Oedipan symbolism.. as for the other symbolism - is that Team Fortress or something? I like asking people things instead of googling them, 'cause googling isn't a verb. Stop underlining googling in red, I know already chrome.

Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:55:27 PMHolyGod-"The REAL companies out there with a massive majority of minimum wage employees are billion dollar businesses like McDonalds, WalMart,and PizzaHut."

McDonald's and PizzaHut are FRANCHISES. The owner of each store purchases the franchise from the corporation. The corporation does not pay the owner of the store, nor do they pay the employees. The owner of the store pays the employees, and they are not 'billionaires'.

As for WalMart, the average worker at Walmart makes MORE than minimum wage. It's pretty much a given if you work at Walmart and make only minimum wage it's because you're a crappy worker. If you demonstrate that you have a good work ethic and are good at your job, you WILL make more than minimum wage (for that matter, if you had both of those, you wouldn't be stuck at minimum at any business).

Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:40:57 PMIn my twenties I became ruler of a small tropical island full off sexy asian women by popular vote. They shower me in gold and beg to be my sex slaves. Now for my thirties.....

You can try to be condescending if you want but I run my own little agency and was billing $200k a year in my 20s. I certainly don't need your validation.

You guys always want to trot out the example of the hypothetical small business desperately needing to hire more employees while sitting RIGHT on the line where a $1 wage increase will force them out of business.

Get real. The REAL companies out there with a massive majority of minimum wage employees are billion dollar businesses like McDonalds, WalMart,and PizzaHut.

They can afford it JUST fine but they rather keep the money so they get their lobbyists to run propaganda campaigns to get you to think this is all about the little guy.

The point was the part you omitted. If the cost of labor increases, the additional employee(s) will not be hired, or existing employee(s) let go, and the remaining workforce will be asked to take up the slack and cut back on off-time.

And that doesn't even begin to take into account the reduction in business due to higher prices and more unemployed, resulting in less profit and the need for less work force, resulting in more layoffs.

"You're looking to hire another employee. That would only cost you an additional $8.00 per hour... Let's raise the minimum wage by $1.00... Except now you can't afford to hire that first one anymore. "

No employer in the history of business has ever hired an additional employee unless they needed to. If they need to hire another employee then they do whether it costs $8/hr or $9/hr.

If your business is such that you need 40 more hours a week of labor but you can not afford $360 a week in wages then you are a failure at running a business.

Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:30:17 AMVery simple you goddamn idiots (not you, i-a-b'ers) - Say you have 8 employees - and they all make $8.00 an hour. You're looking to hire another employee. That would only cost you an additional $8.00 per hour.

All of the sudden, all those 8 employees are now earning $1 more per hour - collectively, the cost of paying for that new employee you were planning to hire. It's like having two for the price of one! Except now you can't afford to hire that first one anymore.

There are only ever 3 possible outcomes of this degenerative scheme: prices go up, hiring diminishes, or businesses go out. The reason it's degenerative is because that last part is a lot harder to reverse. End of story.

Tuesday, March 19, 2013 11:31:35 PMLook at any country where the government doesn't regulate how little employees can be compensated or look at our history before regulations were implemented, that is exactly what happens.

Okay in most developing countries sweatshops are actually a LOT better than the alternatives, as for our history we had rising wages long before FLSA was implemented.

Do you just have that saved on your clipboard so you can predictably paste it into every thread without having to ever concern yourself with adding anything of value to the conversation?

God I would love to go up against you in any barometer of intelligence you chose, an IQ test, the SAT, Jeopardy, Tic Tac Toe, etc and shut you the f.uck up permanently. Oh well. Continue to be a crotchety old f.uck until you have an aneurism and die.

Tuesday, March 19, 2013 10:51:35 PMLet's just let corporations decide how much they want to pay people. Then everyone can make 35 cents an hour.

Hasty generalization. Both worker and company (and CEO) stand to lose if the worker chooses not to work. If the wage is too little to address the worker's needs chances are he's not going to work as the worker's time invested is an unjustified opportunity cost. I'll even go as far as to say that if China didn't ban unionization Chinese workers would be earning 3x more.