Karma = ActionsDharma = Right DutyNirvana/Moksha = State of Bliss or egolessnessMaya = Illusion created by sensesKundalini = Sexual Energy

Ayurveda = Medical science . Just like Allopathy and homeopathy .

Why should I believe in those? Why don't you just say 'actions' instead of 'karma'? Why is this necessary and how would I believe in this?

1st Karma = Sanskrit word2nd Karma = means action, work or deed; it also refers to the spiritual principle of cause and effect where intent and actions of an individual (cause) influence the future of that individual (effect).

As an artistic paradigm for subjectivity, it's fine. As an epistemological perspective, it's invalid.

08 Ayurveda ( An ancient medical science which was developed in India thousands of years ago )

Neither believe nor disbelieve, since medicine that works independently and reliably is simply called 'medicine'. Likelihood is that Ayurveda like most folklore medicine has limited use, misreported efficacy, unacknowledged side-effects, and can be improved.

Atheism is not mutually exclusive to any belief except belief in God. Atheism, quite simply, is the lack of belief in God. Any other beliefs might be held by some atheists and might not by others - one can't generalize any views with "atheism" in general.

"Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe." - Frederick Douglass

No. The concept of "karma" uses fatalism along with morality, and holds that immoral actions are punished as time passes. But it fails to clearly define what an "immoral" action is, and why punishment is necessary. I find it arbitrary and incoherent.

02 Dharma

I understand how difficult it is to translate "dharma" to English, but the understanding of "dharma" as "justice," et cetera, is grounded in the idea that religion is a positive force. Dharma might not mean religion anymore, but the idea of such justice is grounded in religion. Furthermore, the understanding of "duty" creates classification, discrimination, et cetera. I disagree with it.

03 Moksha

I hold to a physicalist viewpoint, so, no.

04 Nirvana

Same as #3.

05 Kundalini

No.

06 Meditation , Chakra Meditation and Yoga

Yoga basically works like exercise -- it has some non-unique benefits. But the philosophical aspect of it, e.g. helping "energy" or "the soul," is nonsense. The same with meditation and "chakra meditation."

07 Maya

I don't understand what you mean. Maya is literally translated to mean "illusion." And everyone knows optical illusions, et cetera, exist. What exactly do you mean?

08 Ayurveda ( An ancient medical science which was developed in India thousands of years ago )

Ayurveda is fundamentally a precursor to later medicine. For its time, it was an advanced science. Current medicine is merely an evolution of such ancient concepts from around the world. "Ayurveda" literally means "the science of health." The traditional concept existing now is silly -- because it was made as a science, made to evolve and progress. Modern medicine is the evolved version of such traditional concepts.

"Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe." - Frederick Douglass

No. The concept of "karma" uses fatalism along with morality, and holds that immoral actions are punished as time passes. But it fails to clearly define what an "immoral" action is, and why punishment is necessary. I find it arbitrary and incoherent.

02 Dharma

I understand how difficult it is to translate "dharma" to English, but the understanding of "dharma" as "justice," et cetera, is grounded in the idea that religion is a positive force. Dharma might not mean religion anymore, but the idea of such justice is grounded in religion. Furthermore, the understanding of "duty" creates classification, discrimination, et cetera. I disagree with it.

03 Moksha

I hold to a physicalist viewpoint, so, no.

04 Nirvana

Same as #3.

05 Kundalini

No.

06 Meditation , Chakra Meditation and Yoga

Yoga basically works like exercise -- it has some non-unique benefits. But the philosophical aspect of it, e.g. helping "energy" or "the soul," is nonsense. The same with meditation and "chakra meditation."

07 Maya

I don't understand what you mean. Maya is literally translated to mean "illusion." And everyone knows optical illusions, et cetera, exist. What exactly do you mean?

08 Ayurveda ( An ancient medical science which was developed in India thousands of years ago )

Ayurveda is fundamentally a precursor to later medicine. For its time, it was an advanced science. Current medicine is merely an evolution of such ancient concepts from around the world. "Ayurveda" literally means "the science of health." The traditional concept existing now is silly -- because it was made as a science, made to evolve and progress. Modern medicine is the evolved version of such traditional concepts.

Well Karma = FatalismKarma = Actions have consequences .

Dharma . You are some what correct .

There are Full Medical degrees on Ayurveda BAMS , MD and Phd . Its similar to Allopathy and Homeopathy but uses different means like herbs etc .

As an artistic paradigm for subjectivity, it's fine. As an epistemological perspective, it's invalid.

08 Ayurveda ( An ancient medical science which was developed in India thousands of years ago )

Neither believe nor disbelieve, since medicine that works independently and reliably is simply called 'medicine'. Likelihood is that Ayurveda like most folklore medicine has limited use, misreported efficacy, unacknowledged side-effects, and can be improved.

I hope that may be useful.

But Karma is a Philosophical and Spiritual Concept .Karma is not equal to , Good deeds and get a better next life .Its a religious definition and helps create fear so that people do good deeds .

Karma is not exactly fatalism -- it is fatalism combined with a retributive justice-based framework. I disagree with it. As for Ayurveda, I disapprove of the current usage of Ayurveda as an alternative medicine; it was a precursor to modern medicine, and for its time it was a scientific advancement. Using the same methods now is not going to work. I'm aware what maya is, and an "optical illusion" is an illusion created by senses; of course I believe optical illusions (e.g. mirages) exist. But I'm fairly certain that's not what you mean by maya. Finally, I don't think kundalini exists either.

"Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe." - Frederick Douglass

Karma is not exactly fatalism -- it is fatalism combined with a retributive justice-based framework. I disagree with it. As for Ayurveda, I disapprove of the current usage of Ayurveda as an alternative medicine; it was a precursor to modern medicine, and for its time it was a scientific advancement. Using the same methods now is not going to work. I'm aware what maya is, and an "optical illusion" is an illusion created by senses; of course I believe optical illusions (e.g. mirages) exist. But I'm fairly certain that's not what you mean by maya. Finally, I don't think kundalini exists either.

But Karma is a Philosophical and Spiritual Concept .Karma is not equal to , Good deeds and get a better next life .Its a religious definition and helps create fear so that people do good deeds .And this Religious view of Karma is different compared to Philosophical Karma .

Karma is not exactly fatalism -- it is fatalism combined with a retributive justice-based framework. I disagree with it. As for Ayurveda, I disapprove of the current usage of Ayurveda as an alternative medicine; it was a precursor to modern medicine, and for its time it was a scientific advancement. Using the same methods now is not going to work. I'm aware what maya is, and an "optical illusion" is an illusion created by senses; of course I believe optical illusions (e.g. mirages) exist. But I'm fairly certain that's not what you mean by maya. Finally, I don't think kundalini exists either.

But Karma is a Philosophical and Spiritual Concept .Karma is not equal to , Good deeds and get a better next life .Its a religious definition and helps create fear so that people do good deeds .And this Religious view of Karma is different compared to Philosophical Karma .

I understand that concept. But the religious idea of "good deeds" is nonsense. The early Vedic people practiced animal sacrifice, created totalitarian government systems, etc -- things that aren't considered "good deeds" today.

"Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe." - Frederick Douglass

Karma is not exactly fatalism -- it is fatalism combined with a retributive justice-based framework. I disagree with it. As for Ayurveda, I disapprove of the current usage of Ayurveda as an alternative medicine; it was a precursor to modern medicine, and for its time it was a scientific advancement. Using the same methods now is not going to work. I'm aware what maya is, and an "optical illusion" is an illusion created by senses; of course I believe optical illusions (e.g. mirages) exist. But I'm fairly certain that's not what you mean by maya. Finally, I don't think kundalini exists either.

But Karma is a Philosophical and Spiritual Concept .Karma is not equal to , Good deeds and get a better next life .Its a religious definition and helps create fear so that people do good deeds .And this Religious view of Karma is different compared to Philosophical Karma .

It's been asked many times on this forum and never been answered so it's your turn.What is spiritual?

Oh and atheists have only one thing in common.ie they reject the claim made by humans that gods exist.

Karma is not exactly fatalism -- it is fatalism combined with a retributive justice-based framework. I disagree with it. As for Ayurveda, I disapprove of the current usage of Ayurveda as an alternative medicine; it was a precursor to modern medicine, and for its time it was a scientific advancement. Using the same methods now is not going to work. I'm aware what maya is, and an "optical illusion" is an illusion created by senses; of course I believe optical illusions (e.g. mirages) exist. But I'm fairly certain that's not what you mean by maya. Finally, I don't think kundalini exists either.

But Karma is a Philosophical and Spiritual Concept .Karma is not equal to , Good deeds and get a better next life .Its a religious definition and helps create fear so that people do good deeds .And this Religious view of Karma is different compared to Philosophical Karma .

I understand that concept. But the religious idea of "good deeds" is nonsense. The early Vedic people practiced animal sacrifice, created totalitarian government systems, etc -- things that aren't considered "good deeds" today.

That is why those stuffs were given up and Non Violence became more important .The only animal Sacrifice I know from Vedic period is Ashva Meag Yagya ( Horse Sacrifice ) and it doesn't involve killing of Horse .

Karma is not exactly fatalism -- it is fatalism combined with a retributive justice-based framework. I disagree with it. As for Ayurveda, I disapprove of the current usage of Ayurveda as an alternative medicine; it was a precursor to modern medicine, and for its time it was a scientific advancement. Using the same methods now is not going to work. I'm aware what maya is, and an "optical illusion" is an illusion created by senses; of course I believe optical illusions (e.g. mirages) exist. But I'm fairly certain that's not what you mean by maya. Finally, I don't think kundalini exists either.

But Karma is a Philosophical and Spiritual Concept .Karma is not equal to , Good deeds and get a better next life .Its a religious definition and helps create fear so that people do good deeds .And this Religious view of Karma is different compared to Philosophical Karma .

It's been asked many times on this forum and never been answered so it's your turn.What is spiritual?

Oh and atheists have only one thing in common.ie they reject the claim made by humans that gods exist.

Spirituality in Hinduism = To Follow the path of Dharma and Yoga .

4 Types of yoga .

Karma YogaJanana YogaRaj YogaBhakti Yoga

To be one with the Brahman and Indian schools have differing Views on this topic .

Karma is not exactly fatalism -- it is fatalism combined with a retributive justice-based framework. I disagree with it. As for Ayurveda, I disapprove of the current usage of Ayurveda as an alternative medicine; it was a precursor to modern medicine, and for its time it was a scientific advancement. Using the same methods now is not going to work. I'm aware what maya is, and an "optical illusion" is an illusion created by senses; of course I believe optical illusions (e.g. mirages) exist. But I'm fairly certain that's not what you mean by maya. Finally, I don't think kundalini exists either.

But Karma is a Philosophical and Spiritual Concept .Karma is not equal to , Good deeds and get a better next life .Its a religious definition and helps create fear so that people do good deeds .And this Religious view of Karma is different compared to Philosophical Karma .

I understand that concept. But the religious idea of "good deeds" is nonsense. The early Vedic people practiced animal sacrifice, created totalitarian government systems, etc -- things that aren't considered "good deeds" today.

That is why those stuffs were given up and Non Violence became more important .The only animal Sacrifice I know from Vedic period is Ashva Meag Yagya ( Horse Sacrifice ) and it doesn't involve killing of Horse .

Aswamedha does involve the killing of the horse. Following the horse's journey through whatever lands intended to be conquered, the horse is slain and the chief wife sleeps next to its corpse.

Even after non-violence became "important," the Vedic religion -- like many other religions -- still remained often harmful. Take the Gadhimai sacrifice in Nepal, the world's largest animal sacrifice. [https://en.wikipedia.org...] It was practiced as a direct result of religion. Karma and dharma are merely two ways used to spread religion and fear in the name of God. The idea of "morality" propagated by religion is often bad. I'm not a "New Atheist," or a follower of a similar movement, since I believe religion is inevitable in society. But I don't think religion is beneficial.

"Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe." - Frederick Douglass

Karma is not exactly fatalism -- it is fatalism combined with a retributive justice-based framework. I disagree with it. As for Ayurveda, I disapprove of the current usage of Ayurveda as an alternative medicine; it was a precursor to modern medicine, and for its time it was a scientific advancement. Using the same methods now is not going to work. I'm aware what maya is, and an "optical illusion" is an illusion created by senses; of course I believe optical illusions (e.g. mirages) exist. But I'm fairly certain that's not what you mean by maya. Finally, I don't think kundalini exists either.

But Karma is a Philosophical and Spiritual Concept .Karma is not equal to , Good deeds and get a better next life .Its a religious definition and helps create fear so that people do good deeds .And this Religious view of Karma is different compared to Philosophical Karma .

I understand that concept. But the religious idea of "good deeds" is nonsense. The early Vedic people practiced animal sacrifice, created totalitarian government systems, etc -- things that aren't considered "good deeds" today.

Vedic period lacked the concept of Karma and Dharma .vedic period believed in rta

Karma is not exactly fatalism -- it is fatalism combined with a retributive justice-based framework. I disagree with it. As for Ayurveda, I disapprove of the current usage of Ayurveda as an alternative medicine; it was a precursor to modern medicine, and for its time it was a scientific advancement. Using the same methods now is not going to work. I'm aware what maya is, and an "optical illusion" is an illusion created by senses; of course I believe optical illusions (e.g. mirages) exist. But I'm fairly certain that's not what you mean by maya. Finally, I don't think kundalini exists either.

But Karma is a Philosophical and Spiritual Concept .Karma is not equal to , Good deeds and get a better next life .Its a religious definition and helps create fear so that people do good deeds .And this Religious view of Karma is different compared to Philosophical Karma .

I understand that concept. But the religious idea of "good deeds" is nonsense. The early Vedic people practiced animal sacrifice, created totalitarian government systems, etc -- things that aren't considered "good deeds" today.

Vedic period lacked the concept of Karma and Dharma .vedic period believed in rta

I'm aware of that. But the idea of rita is a precursor to karma and dharma.

"Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe." - Frederick Douglass

Karma is not exactly fatalism -- it is fatalism combined with a retributive justice-based framework. I disagree with it. As for Ayurveda, I disapprove of the current usage of Ayurveda as an alternative medicine; it was a precursor to modern medicine, and for its time it was a scientific advancement. Using the same methods now is not going to work. I'm aware what maya is, and an "optical illusion" is an illusion created by senses; of course I believe optical illusions (e.g. mirages) exist. But I'm fairly certain that's not what you mean by maya. Finally, I don't think kundalini exists either.

But Karma is a Philosophical and Spiritual Concept .Karma is not equal to , Good deeds and get a better next life .Its a religious definition and helps create fear so that people do good deeds .And this Religious view of Karma is different compared to Philosophical Karma .

It's been asked many times on this forum and never been answered so it's your turn.What is spiritual?

Oh and atheists have only one thing in common.ie they reject the claim made by humans that gods exist.

Spirituality in Hinduism = To Follow the path of Dharma and Yoga .

4 Types of yoga .

Karma YogaJanana YogaRaj YogaBhakti Yoga

To be one with the Brahman and Indian schools have differing Views on this topic .

So spiritual is yoga. Sit on a mat and you suddenly become spiritual. I get it.

Karma is not exactly fatalism -- it is fatalism combined with a retributive justice-based framework. I disagree with it. As for Ayurveda, I disapprove of the current usage of Ayurveda as an alternative medicine; it was a precursor to modern medicine, and for its time it was a scientific advancement. Using the same methods now is not going to work. I'm aware what maya is, and an "optical illusion" is an illusion created by senses; of course I believe optical illusions (e.g. mirages) exist. But I'm fairly certain that's not what you mean by maya. Finally, I don't think kundalini exists either.

But Karma is a Philosophical and Spiritual Concept .Karma is not equal to , Good deeds and get a better next life .Its a religious definition and helps create fear so that people do good deeds .And this Religious view of Karma is different compared to Philosophical Karma .

I understand that concept. But the religious idea of "good deeds" is nonsense. The early Vedic people practiced animal sacrifice, created totalitarian government systems, etc -- things that aren't considered "good deeds" today.

That is why those stuffs were given up and Non Violence became more important .The only animal Sacrifice I know from Vedic period is Ashva Meag Yagya ( Horse Sacrifice ) and it doesn't involve killing of Horse .

Aswamedha does involve the killing of the horse. Following the horse's journey through whatever lands intended to be conquered, the horse is slain and the chief wife sleeps next to its corpse.

Even after non-violence became "important," the Vedic religion -- like many other religions -- still remained often harmful. Take the Gadhimai sacrifice in Nepal, the world's largest animal sacrifice. [https://en.wikipedia.org...] It was practiced as a direct result of religion. Karma and dharma are merely two ways used to spread religion and fear in the name of God. The idea of "morality" propagated by religion is often bad. I'm not a "New Atheist," or a follower of a similar movement, since I believe religion is inevitable in society. But I don't think religion is beneficial.

People are the problem . No ! I have near heard that Horse was killed in the end .Vedas never mentioned to Do that stuff .Lots of Hindu Tribals eat stuff which most of us in Cities will never eat .

Take the example of Sati and Caste . These were corruption of original concepts .

Karma is not exactly fatalism -- it is fatalism combined with a retributive justice-based framework. I disagree with it. As for Ayurveda, I disapprove of the current usage of Ayurveda as an alternative medicine; it was a precursor to modern medicine, and for its time it was a scientific advancement. Using the same methods now is not going to work. I'm aware what maya is, and an "optical illusion" is an illusion created by senses; of course I believe optical illusions (e.g. mirages) exist. But I'm fairly certain that's not what you mean by maya. Finally, I don't think kundalini exists either.

But Karma is a Philosophical and Spiritual Concept .Karma is not equal to , Good deeds and get a better next life .Its a religious definition and helps create fear so that people do good deeds .And this Religious view of Karma is different compared to Philosophical Karma .

It's been asked many times on this forum and never been answered so it's your turn.What is spiritual?

Oh and atheists have only one thing in common.ie they reject the claim made by humans that gods exist.

Spirituality in Hinduism = To Follow the path of Dharma and Yoga .

4 Types of yoga .

Karma YogaJanana YogaRaj YogaBhakti Yoga

To be one with the Brahman and Indian schools have differing Views on this topic .

So spiritual is yoga. Sit on a mat and you suddenly become spiritual. I get it.

a) The horse was killed in the end. That's fundamental to the concept of Aswamedha. "Soma pressings and various animal sacrifices are performed during the building of a great altar. The four major priests symbolically receive the four quarters of space and the four royal queens. On the second of three pressing days, the horse, a hornless goat and gayal are dedicated to Prajapati. Other animals are dedicated to a variety of deities. Three of the queens wash the horse and adorn it with jewelry and ghee. The horse, hornless goat, and gayal are asphyxiated." [https://en.wikipedia.org...]

b) Your stance is inconsistent. You first argued in favor of the status quo in religion, and then say it is corrupted from pure original concepts. I've critiqued both. The status quo allows for absolute atrocities, and the original concepts were worse.

"Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe." - Frederick Douglass

a) The horse was killed in the end. That's fundamental to the concept of Aswamedha. "Soma pressings and various animal sacrifices are performed during the building of a great altar. The four major priests symbolically receive the four quarters of space and the four royal queens. On the second of three pressing days, the horse, a hornless goat and gayal are dedicated to Prajapati. Other animals are dedicated to a variety of deities. Three of the queens wash the horse and adorn it with jewelry and ghee. The horse, hornless goat, and gayal are asphyxiated." [https://en.wikipedia.org...]

b) Your stance is inconsistent. You first argued in favor of the status quo in religion, and then say it is corrupted from pure original concepts. I've critiqued both. The status quo allows for absolute atrocities, and the original concepts were worse.

The original concept , Varna never said Brahmins are higher and Shudras are Lower .Its people who deciphered it wrongly .

Sati was the name of Devi who killed herself in fire after Shiva was insulted by Prajapati . But stupid people started killing women with their dead husband . If People were intellectually challenged , then people were wrong not the concept .

a) The horse was killed in the end. That's fundamental to the concept of Aswamedha. "Soma pressings and various animal sacrifices are performed during the building of a great altar. The four major priests symbolically receive the four quarters of space and the four royal queens. On the second of three pressing days, the horse, a hornless goat and gayal are dedicated to Prajapati. Other animals are dedicated to a variety of deities. Three of the queens wash the horse and adorn it with jewelry and ghee. The horse, hornless goat, and gayal are asphyxiated." [https://en.wikipedia.org...]

b) Your stance is inconsistent. You first argued in favor of the status quo in religion, and then say it is corrupted from pure original concepts. I've critiqued both. The status quo allows for absolute atrocities, and the original concepts were worse.

The original concept , Varna never said Brahmins are higher and Shudras are Lower .Its people who deciphered it wrongly .

Sati was the name of Devi who killed herself in fire after Shiva was insulted by Prajapati . But stupid people started killing women with their dead husband . If People were intellectually challenged , then people were wrong not the concept .

I didn't even bring up the caste system or Sati.

But the concept of caste was built based on superiority. That's why the Vedic religion, and it's successors, were made -- to legitimize kingship. The authority of the monarch and the nobles, with hereditary positions, was important. The Rigveda, the oldest Vedic text, talks about the division of society into the "Arya" and the commoners. Arya literally means "noble." The noble/commoner divide is one that formed factions within society and caused what later become the hierarchical caste system. Nobles and similar political leaders solely had hereditary positions, and religion was used to justify that.

"Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe." - Frederick Douglass

Karma is not exactly fatalism -- it is fatalism combined with a retributive justice-based framework. I disagree with it. As for Ayurveda, I disapprove of the current usage of Ayurveda as an alternative medicine; it was a precursor to modern medicine, and for its time it was a scientific advancement. Using the same methods now is not going to work. I'm aware what maya is, and an "optical illusion" is an illusion created by senses; of course I believe optical illusions (e.g. mirages) exist. But I'm fairly certain that's not what you mean by maya. Finally, I don't think kundalini exists either.

But Karma is a Philosophical and Spiritual Concept .Karma is not equal to , Good deeds and get a better next life .Its a religious definition and helps create fear so that people do good deeds .And this Religious view of Karma is different compared to Philosophical Karma .

It's been asked many times on this forum and never been answered so it's your turn.What is spiritual?

Oh and atheists have only one thing in common.ie they reject the claim made by humans that gods exist.

Spirituality in Hinduism = To Follow the path of Dharma and Yoga .

4 Types of yoga .

Karma YogaJanana YogaRaj YogaBhakti Yoga

To be one with the Brahman and Indian schools have differing Views on this topic .

So spiritual is yoga. Sit on a mat and you suddenly become spiritual. I get it.