You know, truthers really dont help their cause at all by not thinking through their theories completely , and attacking anyone that challenges
them.....

If you dont want people to challenge the theories you present, then you shouldnt take up the sword of being a truther.....

if youre more afraid of being wrong then listening to what could be the real facts, then you arent in it to find out the truth, youre just in it to
keep up the conspiracy...........and you betray yourselves........

I agree with previous statements, the buildings in japan have been engineered since time in memorial to withstand earthquakes because the area has
been known to have large ones through out history....

To draw a straight line to WTC is a huge stretch.......

Stop attacking us because we dont agree with you, and just because some of us dont buy hook line and sinker into the theories some of the 9/11
truthers have............

You are right, there has been alot of attacking on this subject, but it has come from both sides to be fair.

Some of us do not believe the official version, because we can see through the lies and deceit. The whole 9/11 commission was a joke, just like the
7/7 enquiry currently going on in the U.K. There were so many witnesses who were not interviewed, who heard explosions before the plane hit and
several after the plane hit and just prior to the buildings collapsing. Why were these ignored?

I cannot believe that the only footage released regarding the Pentagon attack shows a very blurry image, considering the number of cameras around the
building, don't you think this is in the least a little bit curious? To be told that the plane was piloted by an amateur, yet crash it with such
expertise, I cannot buy this either.

Donald Rumsfield admits that on the day he was meeting with congressman in order to discuss raising more funds for the DoD. That very morning warning
them that the U.S could be open to increasing threats of terror. What better example to use than that plane come crashing into the very building they
are sat in. Coincidence? they would like to make you believe that, but there are just too many to swallow.

Do you think that 'Truthers' (I hate that term and do not put myself in that box) immediately came to their conclusions? No, they have done some
research, listened to experts and and have come to a conclusion by informed means. I appreciate that some of the ideas, some of the conclusions people
have come to are a bit out there, but there are more and more people questioning the official version.

I agree, this comparison is a huge stretch; a powerful earthquake can cause a lot more damage to a building than a couple of fake CGI created
non-existent commercial airliners. I guess Japan does not have skyscrapers which are decrepit, hollow money pits filled with asbestos and controlled
by a bunch of greedy criminal scam artists.

In addition, the Japanese Government knows that their people are not stupid enough to be bamboozled into giving up their freedoms and supporting two
illegal unjust wars. And finally, the Japanese actually have a long standing culture where they actually show respect for their fellow human being. I
think the Japanese have enough self-respect where they would not act inhumanely and provide the rest of the world with a genuine excuse to urinate all
over them.

I dont believe the 9/11 OS no matter if you attack /abuse/ridicule/harrass or silence me .

I will continue to stand up for what I believe in .

AS YET THIS IS NOT A CRIME .

In the words of Luke Radkowski " WE will NEVER STOP TALKING about 9/11 "

PEACE .

Nothing wrong with standing up for what you believe. In fact, I commend you for it.

I think the biggest issue most of us have is that your belief is fueled more a by a distrust in the government than any actual evidence. I mean, I
have yet to see you vocalize any real scientific evidence to back up your beliefs.

Are there hundreds of Truther engineers out there who have done their own extensive research? Studied thousands of documents, thousands of videos and
photos, actual debris from the buildings, etc?

I mean, does it seem understandable why we raise our eyebrows as some of the stuff you guys claim? Linking random photos and YouTube clips as
absolute proof (with absolutely ZERO experience in engineering) that it was an inside job is just a bit ridiculous.

Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
I agree, this comparison is a huge stretch; a powerful earthquake can cause a lot more damage to a building than a couple of fake CGI created
non-existent commercial airliners.

Now if you'd be so kind as to explain how it is that everyone in the area who saw an airliner strike the WTC were bamboozled, I'd be in your debt.
Or is everyone who saw it with their own eyes 'in on it'?

Nothing wrong with standing up for what you believe. In fact, I commend you for it.

I think the biggest issue most of us have is that your belief is fueled more a by a distrust in the government than any actual evidence. I mean, I
have yet to see you vocalize any real scientific evidence to back up your beliefs.

Are there hundreds of Truther engineers out there who have done their own extensive research? Studied thousands of documents, thousands of videos and
photos, actual debris from the buildings, etc?

I mean, does it seem understandable why we raise our eyebrows as some of the stuff you guys claim? Linking random photos and YouTube clips as
absolute proof (with absolutely ZERO experience in engineering) that it was an inside job is just a bit ridiculous.

edit on 13-3-2011 by
Tosskey because: (no reason given)

What chance did they have to study any of the debris when it was whisked away so quickly? What engineers have given you the true facts? Using You Tube
clips can perfectly back up what you are trying to convey, in fact I would advocate that you use some to discredit what some of us are saying. Peace.

. And finally, the Japanese actually have a long standing culture where they actually show respect for their fellow human being. I think the Japanese
have enough self-respect where they would not act inhumanely and provide the rest of the world with a genuine excuse to urinate all over them.

Is that so?

Chinese prisoners of war being buried alive by the Japanese.

Hundreds of Chinese civilians killed by Japanese soldiers.

Let's not forget the Bataan Death March! That sure showed the world how much they love and respect their fellow humans.

Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
..... a powerful earthquake can cause a lot more damage to a building than a couple of fake CGI created non-existent commercial airliners.

Indeed.

So, a building designed not to collapse in an earthquake proves what? Was there an 8.9 mag earthquake in New York on 9/11? And was the WTC designed
to withstand such a quake? Did a 8.9 mag earthquake cause the WTC to collapse?

Otherwise this discussion is daft. Akin to arguing that because drinking a bottle of whisky makes you drunk then looking at a daffodil makes you
drunk.

I assume the point of this thread is to pour scorn on the Truthers and make them all look like simpletons?

Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
I guess Japan does not have skyscrapers which are decrepit, hollow money pits filled with asbestos and controlled by a bunch of greedy criminal scam
artists.

Except that Japan has more empty and redundant office space than almost anywhere in the world after their boom went bust. And the criminal activities
of its bank bosses in the early 90s prevented the country from ever reaching its pre-recession economic strength ever again. So that's wrong.

In addition, the Japanese Government knows that their people are not stupid enough to be bamboozled into giving up their freedoms and supporting two
illegal unjust wars.

Although in fact Japan supported both the Iraqi and Afghan invasions. They sent troops to Iraq and flew refuelling missions in Afghanistan.

Not to mention the Japanese public's historical support for murderous militarism in the twentieth century.

And finally, the Japanese actually have a long standing culture where they actually show respect for their fellow human being. I think the
Japanese have enough self-respect where they would not act inhumanely and provide the rest of the world with a genuine excuse to urinate all over
them.

Wow. Have a look into the way the Japanese murdered civilians in Nanking. Or worked POWs to death. They don't have the most humane history when it
comes to war and human rights.

Still, good post. Almost everything in it completely ill-considered and wrong. I guess we should just take your word for it on the CGI planes since
you seem such a competent and informed analyst.

Japan Skyscrapers Sway With 8.9 Earthquake but the WTC collapsed !! still beleive the 9/11 version?

Yes, the "official story", aka reality, is still correct.

Seriously, you're comparing two different events with two different buildings and you're surprised they acted differently?

manipulated reality yeah
a 8.9 earthquake and they are still there
the most powerfull earthquake in human history and THEY ARE STILL STANDING the japanese skycrapers are fragile compare to the american ones thats why im comparing them

2 planes hitting 2 different american tower and having a same result .. the chance of that is extremelly low if it wasnt a controlled demolition

im trying to open the eyes of people like you still beleiving the crap reasons they spread via corrupted media to make ME wars at the end

we are still in the mess because of that ... if the truth was to come out
we would have no choice but to back off from the ME

the truth always prevail at the end .. the sad thing in this case .. its been 10 yrs and nothing was prooven yet

Underlined above ,YOUR a construction expert are YOU so why are the japanese skycrapers fragile please tell everyone why!

i have even heard that if you take all the steel from both tower
you could make sixty Eiffel tower

this thread is only to show people .. that 2 planes hitting both tower tops
couldnt make the same result at the end

its like driving a plane into the pyramid and sundenly everything crumble to the ground verticaly
after a few minutes

YEAH RIGHT

open you eye people .. WTC were destructed by hidden explosives
that could melt those huge steel bar

you can even see the bombs blowing up windows before everything fall down

the human race is doom to fail if we dont even have the common sens and intelligence to see that everything WAS STAGED on 9/11 to create ME wars
who have benefit the most from this act ?? Bibi regime in Israel

only one groupd of people were dancing in the street when that happen .. guess who again ?

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