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every time i see a thread like this, i want to go out and upgrade my lights to HID's

then i recall a conversation i had with a friend that is a state trooper. "You like them, just be prepared to be pulled over"

So for what its worth I'll stick with my silverstar bulbs

I've had them in all my other vehicles with no problems :shrug: . . . just had to aim them a little. my friend and I dont notice glare problems from it but I have been flashed a couple times. . . . for the most part I do city driving so glare isnt as bad as when I was on 41 in the everglades (2 lane/2way road + pitch black makes even the slightest glare exponentially worse)

very illegal. and very dangerous. the HID was not meant to be used in a halogen reflector housing. there is way too much glare and no cut off. sure it lights up everything you can see, but they can blind the crap out of oncoming traffic 95% of the time.

HIDs in the proper housing are awesome especially when used with a projector. but the majority are not in the correct housings and are a danger to everyone. it is too easy to buy these lights and they are not illegal in themselves, but when installed into the incorrect housings they are.

read up on hidplanet.com and search haknslash for good information. he has been doing retro projectors for many vehicles for years and does them the right way, ensuring proper adjustment and cutoff.

sorry if i come off a bit harsh, but this is my #1 pet peeve in the automotive world right now.

very illegal. and very dangerous. the HID was not meant to be used in a halogen reflector housing. there is way too much glare and no cut off. sure it lights up everything you can see, but they can blind the crap out of oncoming traffic 95% of the time.

HIDs in the proper housing are awesome especially when used with a projector. but the majority are not in the correct housings and are a danger to everyone. it is too easy to buy these lights and they are not illegal in themselves, but when installed into the incorrect housings they are.

read up on hidplanet.com and search haknslash for good information. he has been doing retro projectors for many vehicles for years and does them the right way, ensuring proper adjustment and cutoff.

sorry if i come off a bit harsh, but this is my #1 pet peeve in the automotive world right now.

There are always some like you floating about . .truth be told I have installed and have helped install many HID's in factory housings. occasionally you get some glare which can be drastically reduced or eliminated with some aligning . . If you have major glare issues its because the other drivers are inconsiderate or ignorant enough not to aim their headlights.

very illegal. and very dangerous. the HID was not meant to be used in a halogen reflector housing. there is way too much glare and no cut off. sure it lights up everything you can see, but they can blind the crap out of oncoming traffic 95% of the time.

HIDs in the proper housing are awesome especially when used with a projector. but the majority are not in the correct housings and are a danger to everyone. it is too easy to buy these lights and they are not illegal in themselves, but when installed into the incorrect housings they are.

read up on hidplanet.com and search haknslash for good information. he has been doing retro projectors for many vehicles for years and does them the right way, ensuring proper adjustment and cutoff.

sorry if i come off a bit harsh, but this is my #1 pet peeve in the automotive world right now.

Your point is well taken but I would imagine my Jeep sitting 5 ft off the ground has more potential for damage to others then my lights do. I wish I could fork over the $600+ for those JK projectors but these work for me right now. I'll check out that link you posted so thank you for the info.

HID's were available on many vehicles without projects for a long time

i had some stock on my 02 Maxima, the difference is, the housing were DESIGNED for the pattern an HID bulb puts out

Installing HIDs in any housing designed to use a halogen bulb is no good. Like mentioned before it wasn’t designed to use HIDs and there’s usually a lot of stray light shooting around that can blind on coming traffic.

Yes, there were none projector style housing that had HIDs from the factory but those housing was specially designed for HIDs.

Projectors are just a new efficient designed headlight that’s also compact and can put out a good spread of light. There are also projectors that were designed to use halogen bulbs.

They are trying to do away with the ribbed style lens because it blocked light. Most cars today are using free forming reflectors or projectors to put out maximum light output.

Do you know...In the US not every road sign is lit so manufactures (SAE was also involved) wanted headlights to have 30% of light output to aim high for road signs. With Halogen it wasn’t bright enough to bother most on coming traffic.
When HIDs was first introduced you find them on mostly European cars because over there most road signs are self light so their headlights can concentrate 100% to the ground. Hence the very sharp cut off.
I think there was some sort of loop hole or slight design change for US use.

Installing HIDs in any housing designed to use a halogen bulb is no good. Like mentioned before it wasn’t designed to use HIDs and there’s usually a lot of stray light shooting around that can blind on coming traffic.

Yes, there were none projector style housing that had HIDs from the factory but those housing was specially designed for HIDs.

Projectors are just a new efficient designed headlight that’s also compact and can put out a good spread of light. There are also projectors that were designed to use halogen bulbs.

They are trying to do away with the ribbed style lens because it blocked light. Most cars today are using free forming reflectors or projectors to put out maximum light output.

Do you know...In the US not every road sign is lit so manufactures (SAE was also involved) wanted headlights to have 30% of light output to aim high for road signs. With Halogen it wasn’t bright enough to bother most on coming traffic.
When HIDs was first introduced you find them on mostly European cars because over there most road signs are self light so their headlights can concentrate 100% to the ground. Hence the very sharp cut off.

Everytime "HID" is mentioned the forum police pop up. I for one have the stock bulbs in my Jeep if I got pulled over. Pain in the ass as it be, I'd swap them out and take what happens. I never get flashed, I never get flipped off. I'd imagine it to be annoying, there are so many vehicles here in Vegas with them in stock housings...mine is just another one the road.

I've had HIDs in my last two vehicles and love them, I'll continue to run 'em too!

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