19:19:25 matt montagne -> I can think of how some teachers will not allow kids to read on a kindle

19:20:10 matt montagne -> a kindle can really be a nice way for a kid w/ vision problems to modify the reading environ...but if the teacher never allows that and forces him to use the print book, it is a tyranny

19:26:27 SteveEdiger -> We need to honor 'snapshots' as authoritative sources in some situations. For instance revisionist history that has been rewritten, depending on who is in control of the textbook process.

19:26:33 dave -> bye guys

19:26:36 matt montagne -> hopefully not for much longer...but textbooks could be the answer for alot of schools to information overload

19:35:12 matt montagne -> facebook to me has never been private...even back when it was for college students only

19:35:25 PeggyG -> some of the recent changes are very frustrating on FB!! you almost can't get out of the popup without agreeing to sharing

19:35:33 matt montagne -> beautiful garden paul

19:35:37 SteveEdiger -> I'm interested in finding out who will be developing an open source version of facebook (in the long term). In the short term, we need to demand more granularity of what we can choose to not share.

19:35:44 matt montagne -> are those your plots right there??

19:35:57 Paul Allison -> My students don't accept my philosophy: Live a life that you can post publically on Facebook.

19:36:01 PeggyG -> great photo Paul!

19:37:04 matt montagne -> @Paul...that is what I find as well...that is similar to my philosophy as well

19:37:11 SteveEdiger -> It's also scary because of data aggregation and the ensuing patterns that appear

19:42:45 Paul Allison -> (sorry to be behind the conversations, but...) I'm worried that young people's lives are more factured than they need to be because of all the online private spaces they have. I advocate for more public, more unified lives -- being the same person in school, at home, at work, at parties.

19:49:36 matt montagne -> not lighting up the mail side of things means you give up alot of integrated funtionality

19:49:41 JohnS -> yep.

19:49:50 JohnS -> And yes, all of this stuff will be available in apps for edu

19:49:59 matt montagne -> the email program in google is pretty social...status updates, chat, etc...it is quite nice. The kids like it

19:51:01 matt montagne -> the new groups feature in google is really nice too...no longer do distrubtion groups/listserves need to be centrally managed (although you can still centrally manage some critical mail groups while flatten out management for others)

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