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Hello, good friends. Joe Reagan here and one question is on my mind today. Why do vegans hate nature?

Humanity has long been plagued by many rogue elements. The most dangerous and harmful of these are extremists: NAZIs, feminists and false-religious zealots. You get the idea. Of all foul extremists, there is one group who seeks to not only ruin your way of life, but also destroy your children’s future. Vegans.

Those who deny the true religious evolutionary heritage of man will try to guilt-trip you for eating animals. You’ll hear that you are hell bound for enjoying a juicy steak. You will be told that you are naturally cruel for devouring some succulent lobster.

You see, friends, the fact is this. Any sane person realizes that animals should be respected and appreciated, not abused and tortured. The problem here lies with extremists who have a peculiar passion for animals. They want to deny the good nature of mankind’s natural order, to eat meat. They want to put their selfish ideals above the overall good for humanity.

And that’s where we are today. We live in a world where people will massively rally against meat-eaters, yet are nowhere to be found when humans are suffering through starvation and genocide. Where are the priorities, where are the morals?

I will tell you exactly where they are. Lost. Our priorities and morals are fading, not because we do not fight for causes, but because we are becoming more and more selfish and fighting for the wrong causes. Until we learn to respect ourselves, that is humanity as a whole, in a level never seen before, our society will continue to have injustice and failure.

Genocide to this day continues without universal protest. Millions of people will die from starvation, yet the population of overweight/obese people far outnumber those who are malnourished.

As you may recall, I hosted a massive BBQ at my place some time ago. A little skirmish broke out between a random vegan and my old buddy, “Ted”. At some point, the vegan managed to anger Ted (a classic good ol’ boy).

A bit sauced from consuming a big amount of his patented meat marinade, straight Guinness, Ted wasn’t in the best of moods. Before I could even get to the grilling area to deescalate the situation, Ted already had the trouble-maker in a headlock and was trying to force feed him some steak. It was amusing, albeit bad.

After things settled down and we broke the two apart, I asked Ted a question, as per custom: “Why did you do it?” “Easy”, he said, “he wanted to screw my day with his views, I thought I’d return the favor and shove some meat down his throat.” Eye for an eye, this is classic Ted logic.

After getting Ted cooled, I checked to see if the instigator was alright. I offered him a cold beverage, which he declined for water, then asked him why he started in on Ted, who was doing the grilling that day. The vegan had been invited to the BBQ with a friend, and though he didn’t plan to start trouble, couldn’t resist when he saw the amount of meat Ted was dishing out. Fair enough. He “Just had to do something. People are worthless, barbaric and sick.”

Those were the words that caught my ear: “…just had to do something. People are worthless, barbaric and sick” How awesome would Earth be if people felt so passionately, for the good of each other, that they “just had to do something” when another was being wronged, because naturally and clearly, all people are sick. That would be in the socialist John Lennon’s “Imagine” levels of Utopia.

That’s the point I wanted to reach with today’s message. It’s good to push for and stand up for in what you believe. A society without passion stands in danger of corruption. In the same sense, a society infused with too much passion becomes segmented, self-serving and will eventually lose the right to be progressive.

Beyond this, there is something even more important. And this is the point the vegan, and likely a good portion of his minions, miss out on.

Despite our bad qualities, the value of life of man is important. We are created by divine design. A part of our existence should involve protecting nature. As much as we shouldn’t senselessly burn down a forest, we should not torture animals. This does not mean we do not have a natural right, as decreed, that we can use plants and animals for sensible purposes, for our survival, lifestyle and enjoyment. Yes, it is natural order, and yes, it is good.

So vegans, my message to you is this. Stop hating humanity, or more accurately, stop hating yourself. Embrace natural order. There is nothing wrong with enjoying a tender bite of meat. It served your ancestors well, and it can serve you well. Your attitudes and general beliefs are a portion of what is wrong with society. We are viewing humanity as less than “humane”, thus not caring for our fellow man. If we cannot accept, respect and embrace ourselves, we will never achieve a standard for an ideal society.

If you respect the nature of man, today you will fire up your grill (or if too cold fire up the stove) and eat a steak. Your body is already equipped to process the delicious meat, naturally. After doing this, take up a real cause to better humanity, lest one day humanity destroys itself and our planet be ruled by by apes.
=Joe P. Reagan=

yes i am vegan, but I am very put off by this whole stereotypical “vegan” militancy. the reasoning for vegetarianism and veganism differs tremendously from individual to individual, and it is never a good idea to group people and judge them without looking at them on an individual basis. that said, the “meat is murder” mentally is, i agree, absurd and unnatural. however, automobiles are also unnatural, guns and factories are unnatural, concrete pavement and electrical machinery and the internet is also unnatural. if it was a buffalo and me in nature, and i managed to kill the buffalo, you’d better believe i would eat it and use its skin and bone and organs to the last ounce. this is respectful.

in fact, most vegans that I know would eat meat and animal products if there was a guarantee that it was produced in a humane and respectable manner, and if there was a guarantee that artificial growth hormones and other dangerous chemicals were not involved (research Monsanto, its terrifying. and not just with meat either, but with a lot of agriculture). given the state of the livestock industry today with factory farming and the abuse of illegal immigrant labor etc…, even with “free range” products, a lot of us just figure it’s better to not take the risk. I, personally, and most vegans I know, have NO problem with other people eating meat because we understand that people are different and have different ideas about the world, and respect them. We also accept the possibility that we could be wrong. We are not involved in righteousness and dogma. Are there vegans and vegetarians who are unreasonable wackos? of course. Are there meat-eaters who are unreasonable wackos? of course. But really, most folks are just regular old folks at the end of the day despite their idealistic beliefs and differences, and should be treated as such.

In conclusion, please do not judge all vegans and vegetarians without first asking specifically what their idea is behind it and trying to understand it, and in turn, I will continue to reason with veggie extremists that people who eat meat are not monsters, and usually are very friendly (with the exception of the occasional BBQ disaster story lol )

Appreciate your reading,

- A friendly and non militant guy from Chicago, who will gladly cook up a portabella mushroom right next to a steak on the same grill, and enjoy it all the same.

Are you serious?
That is a completely serious question, this website has to be a satire of itself there is no way this many people could be so far off of their rockers. Also i like that you have trademarked the term Rapture so you can make money off of it.

Genesis 9:2-3: And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth [upon] the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

Actually, until after the flood, everyone was supposed to be vegan, or at least vegetarian. That’s my understanding of my peoples words. So since you are trying to restore the Morality of The Old Testament, why don’t you try and become a Vegan today.

you people are terrible. vegans are not bad people, super conservative nazis like you are. I hope you all burn in your imaginary hell. Or if that doesn’t work for you, go to a metal festival in Norway. They’ll help you out with the burning you in hell thing

I forgive you ChristWire baptist people for you know not what you do, and are as an angry child for he doesn’t understand why he is angry. So I forgive you and I pray for your souls, hoping that you attain true redemption and peace of soul. Go with God.

While I agree with your assertions regarding mutual care and respect for nature and the environment, I think you make some clear blanket statements that are not applicable to everyone…or really to that many! I am actually a vegetarian, an ordained Baptist minister, and a self-proclaimed feminist. I don’t think meat-eaters are hell-bound and I certainly don’t think that my feminist ways are destroying humanity (though I will note the importance of referring to humanity for what it is–human–rather than man since Webster’s Dictionary deemed it academically archaic to refer to humans as “man” in 1971. I’m a human not a man; there is a difference).
It’s important to realize that there is not one type of Christian, feminist, or vegetarian. Rather, there exist a spectrum of beliefs and ideologies within each of these broad categories. It is my claim, as an ordained clergywoman, that I serve Jesus who came to set the oppressed free and make peace and love the ultimate goals for humanity. Equating feminists or vegetarians with nazis–people responsible for the genocide of millions (which you reference in your blog)–is hardly loving or peaceful. How are feminists or vegetarians responsible for massacring millions of innocent people?
The majority of feminists are people (women and men) who believe that all people should be treated equally, regardless of gender, sexuality, or orientation. In fact, many scholars and ministers (myself included) would say that Jesus was feminism’s greatest ally.
Of course, there are man-hating feminists and meat-eater-hating vegetarians, just like there are liberal-hating “other-”excluding conservative Christians that do more oppressing than loving. But these stereotypes don’t fit everyone.

hi every1, after spending time on this site today, i decided that this site is totally againced everything freedom involved, i soooooooooo hope south park rip you guys to shreds, your pathetic, evil and totally againced the bible, i mean how deluded are you to go so far as to persicute woman and other colors, who do you think you are, are you nazi? or just wanting to be one? ur so miss informed about world views, i mean everyting about you is wrong, it shall be you that rott in hell, your no beta than anyone else,

Greetz from aussie land…

Ps… the whole world thinks your silly Trademark American bullshit is the funniest shit on earth

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wow you guys are a joke, if you guys think its natural order for man to eat meat then you may as well get on your knees right now and start sucking on my cock. Im sure thats what god had in mind for you when he set up the natural order of man. so you could suck my cock and then burn in hell. But wait dumshit, there isnt hell or heaven. you just turn into fuckin dirt like everyone else, so ill tell you what maybe ill tip off those russian superbabe model spies that you guys are hidin some weapons of mass destruction so she can force you at gunpoint to fuck eachother in the ass the shoot you so she can get rid of this goddamn site. Fuckin assholes.

Lmfao.
Really now?
Im 100% VEGAN and I choose to not eat meat becuase I disagree with the way meat and dairy products are so overly produced due to factory farming. Maybe if the animals werent so badly treated it would be different. And for us being witches….thats a load of horse shit. People who put down an entire group of people are pathetic. Im deffinitly not a believer in god . mainly becuase if he was infact real he wouldnt let morons like you go around spreading your propaganda and putting others down for absolutely no reason. What has a vegan ever done to you? When you can awnser that question (and by that I mean with a reasonal legitamite awsner) , then come talk to me k buddy? Until then you can all worship your imaginary god.

Feminism and vegetarianism are compared to nazism now?!
I’m christian, but i’d rather rot in hell than give up on both of those, you mis-understood christianity,with your stupidity and ignorance.

BTW i’d love to see you burn in hell, for making statments to fool naive people, with fancy words, and sensless accusations; telling them demanding women rights, or respecting animal rights is as sinful as considering other races inferior, and death-worthy aka (Nazism).

While some vegans may hate nature, not all do. I know, because I’ve been vegan for over three years and I love nature. In fact, my love of nature inspires my veganism, as I aspire to cause as little harm as possible while still ensuring my survival. Veganism makes this easy, of course, as it is compassionate and non-violent, ecologically responsible, and the most healthy (when done responsibly) diet for humans.

Veganism will not destroy a child’s future. I know, because I research nutrition and a balanced whole foods, plant-based diet is extremely healthy for children (as for adults) and can help prevent a vast list of diseases and disorders. In addition, a child who wishes not to cause unnecessary harm to others will not have to live with a past history of harm, if s/he is raised vegan. It saddens me to look back at the unnecessary cruelty I unwittingly participated in, in the years before I became vegan.

Obesity is a form of malnutrition. Consuming animal products contributes vastly to obesity, and also to starvation, by proxy. This is because 10 humans could be fed with the plant matter it takes to produce enough flesh to feed one human. Consuming animal products is a very inefficient use of resources, and human starvation could be prevented if we ceased from being so irresponsible. Veganism is a protest against human starvation as much as it is a protest against the ab(use) of our non-human fellow earthlings.

Trying to force-feed a vegan the flesh of a dead animal is extremely psychologically abusive.

Vegans often become angry with humanity because they must witness the barbarism and violence of the animal industries, and the apathy of the larger part of humanity. Once you know what is being done to non-human animals, it is virtually impossible for a compassionate person to not have a strong emotional reaction. For example, the day I found out that “beef” cattle are forced to undergo branding and castration without anesthetic was the day I ceased from eating flesh forever. Since then I have expanded my ideas of morality and no longer consider there to be any “humane” way to take someone’s life for pleasure. Any more than there is a “humane” way to rape a cow so that we make partake of her child’s food, or to force a hen to menstruate at unnatural rates so that we may partake of her menstrual product, or any of the other barbaric things humans do to non-humans. I understand that vegans’ anger may be confusing to carnists, but once you see even a little of what we see, perhaps you will understand it more clearly. Just knowing what a CAFO IS was enough to let me know that I could no longer fund them or participate in their actions in any way.

We should not torture animals. And we should not “use” animals. They have lives and interests, needs and wants, the same as we do. They are not here for us. They are here for themselves. Just as we are. I came about this lesson over many years and after much pain. As a victim of sexual/physical/psychological abuse, I know what it’s like to be used. And I know that no living being “deserves” – nor is any being “here for” – that treatment. Respect and use are antithetical. If you respect someone, you do not use them for your pleasure. And you most certainly do not pay someone to rape, torture, mutilate, maim, and murder them for your pleasure.

Human bodies are not equipped to process flesh properly. Our long digestive system is not suited for carnism, which is part of why colon cancer kills so many humans.

Veganism is THE cause that benefits humanity. We’re destroying our ecosystems and our health with our “factory farming.” Not to mention the fact that we’re depriving people of much needed nutrition by wastefully filtering our grain products through animals we’re torturing for “food.”

I don’t hate myself. I don’t hate you, either. I don’t hate anyone. That would be counter-productive and silly. Realizing there are more productive, compassionate, responsible ways to live is not the same thing as hating humanity. If I hated humanity I wouldn’t continue to inform people of how veganism could improve their health and wellbeing, in spite of the enormous amounts of rejection I face from people who are unwilling to consider my words and research things for themselves.

Eating meat isn’t wrong but it is a choice. No one was born a meat-eater. If you love meat you should make or buy a shirt that reads “meat-eater and proud”. I’ll be the one wearing the one with a picture of a steak with a circle around it and a line through it.

Good for you man. Some of my closest friends are vegetarians and i know a couple vegans. I’ve sat at a table with my vegan friend for dinner before, he had a large salad and I had a steak. He treats people with more decency than all these nutcases combined

You have to be shitting me right? You are a wtich because you dont enjoy meat? How about people with health conditions that prevent them from processing the proteins in meat, making it unhealthy for them. Although i suppose those people are probably incarnations of satan himself now aren’t they?

landover baptist is a fake church, a parody of radical-fundamentalist churches. did you not know this? if you want to have a christian website, shouldn’t you have a clue about the common parody sites, so you don’t get pranked again? you guys need to catch some web-savvy.

I see it very plainly where you stated they are bad. When “Pastor Ezekiel” said that at his church they established that they are witches. When Reagan said in his article above, “Humanity has long been plagued by many rogue elements. The most dangerous and harmful of these are extremists: NAZIs, feminists and false-religious zealots. You get the idea. Of all foul extremists, there is one group who seeks to not only ruin your way of life, but also destroy your children’s future. Vegans.” He groups them with Nazis. Thats a pretty bold statement and puts as being far worse than “bad.”

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Anti -Society of Christians for the Restoration of Old Testament Morality

Logical problem of evil
1. God exists. (premise)
2. God is omnipotent and omniscient. (premise — or true by definition of the word “God”)
3. God is all-benevolent. (premise — or true by definition)
4. All-benevolent beings are opposed to all evil. (premise — or true by definition)
5. All-benevolent beings who can eliminate evil will do so immediately when they become aware of it. (premise)
6. God is opposed to all evil. (conclusion from 3 and 4)
7. God can eliminate evil completely and immediately. (conclusion from 2)
1. Whatever the end result of suffering is, God can bring it about by ways that do not include suffering. (conclusion from 2)
2. God has no reason not to eliminate evil. (conclusion from 7.1)
3. God has no reason not to act immediately. (conclusion from 5)
8. God will eliminate evil completely and immediately. (conclusion from 6, 7.2 and 7.3)
9. Evil exists, has existed, and probably will always exist. (premise)
10. Items 8 and 9 are contradictory; therefore, one or more of the premises is false: either God does not exist, evil does not exist, God is not simultaneously omnipotent, omniscient and all-benevolent, or all-benevolent beings who can eliminate evil will not necessarily do so immediately when they become aware of it.

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Anti -Society of Christians for the Restoration of Old Testament Morality

Don’t you think it’s a little pig headed and self righteous of yourself to claim to know what your god intends the world to be? The bible was written by man, not your fairy tale sky monkey.
What is so ironic about the first paragraph of this article is that you talk about the dangers and harmfulness of extremists yet, from the looks of it you are a religious extremist. Society has only recently been plagued by nazis and feminists. Religious extremists have plagued the world for years upon years, if you look at the advancement of technology it was the rise of christianity that stopped us from advancing. If it werent for your silly cults, we’d all be living in space by now.

It’s so funny how you religious people have to care so much on how I live my life as a vegan. God is dead and has never lived when you die you will just rot with the earth, heaven isn’t real neither is hell, a magical old guy in the clouds didn’t create this earth that has been going downhill thanks to you dumb fucks that have to shove religion down our throats. It’s funny how you say god intended on us eating meat and for our survival. How do you define survival? Going to McDonald’s and getting a hamburger? That sounds like hard work and you NEEDING that for your oh so healthy life. This is why humanity is pathetic. If someone just walked by and killed your dog and ate it you would cry about it and think that is disgusting but a butchering a pig that had nothing to deserve that is fine to eat. Oh and please don’t put your fairy tales in front of your eating habits I’m pretty sure that the bible says something about scarcely eating meat and what they mean by scarcely is when it’s a last resort (which is never in this economy). You guys are truly dumb fucks, you need to grow up and quit being obese maybe go for a job or two without stopping by McDonald’s and maybe have more vegetables in your life.

Yours Truly
Some Vegan Kid That Is Gay
(Oh shit I’m going to burn for liking the same sex!)
P.S.
Jesus was a bitch.

Well, I don’t really like meat. And many people’s bodies are not equipped to process meat. I don’t think our bodies were created to process processed food that’s unhealthy and clogs our arteries, but we eat that anyway most of the time. I don’t have a problem with meat eaters; I don’t prefer it myself just like I don’t really like onions. I don’t think I should be faulted for having food preferences.

Adam nelson your still a twat. who gives a toss if he is asian, are you trying to say that if a person from a different race came upto your church you would shun him? It was jesus that spent time with the prostitues, tax collectors and the poor, yet you think your better than that? Jesus also clearly states in the bible just before they are about to stone the prostitute “let he who is without sin cast the first stone” well my poor deluded Adam Nelson you cant cast that stone either.

Im from New Zealand! and im 100% caucausion, yet i have many asian friends now remember adam that asian is an umbrella term covering Indian, Thailand, Tibet, china, Japan, and yes even old USSR. when i did attend church in my youth there were people from all different races,and being an acutal good church we didnt discriminate againced anyone! Everyone is equal in gods eyes, and you might try to call my a hypocrite for the way i express myself to you and the rest of the bullshit articals on this site, but the fact that i am no longer christian due to the point that i didnt want to be a hypocrite speaks for itself

Leviticus 11:9-12 says:
9 These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.
10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
11 They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.
12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.

Deuteronomy 14:9-10 says:
9 These ye shall eat of all that are in the waters: all that have fins and scales shall ye eat:
10 And whatsoever hath not fins and scales ye may not eat; it is unclean unto you.