Yeah, *THEY* work. Sigh. :) I've tried various permutations. I've run thru it programmically with the API. I've been putting in tickets since Nov 2011, and I've seen it since Sept 2011. No idea exactly how long it's been like that, and not even sure our guild has EVER been visible via the web with the latest software, though WowTrack.org, which is the only one I see with a 404, says :ArmoryLast Update July 28, 2011Update Error 4042 days ago

I have had CSRs tell me that they've confirmed it, that they've bumped it up, that they've referred it to the database team, that the tickets are set to report back to them. But, y'know, I tend to play WoW, not any websites, so these tickets expire, and then I can't reopen them, and then nobody pays any attention.

Finally, the most recent GM to look at it, suggested that what I needed to do is post over here, and get the website team on it. Really? They don't let you guys actually have access to tickets? WhatEver. :)

Anyhow, some progress would be nice...it's tough to use all these wonderful API tools I've written to assess guild strengths, when you can't access any data!

And if anyone else has this problem, where your guild returns a "four oh four" error on the web when you access it, or even if you notice underscores in your guild name on your avatar links, please, reply! :)

EDIT: Just a note, if you don't include the trailing slash, you will ALWAYS get a 404.

Well, changed the guild leader for about 20 seconds on Monday night. It's Wednesday night now, and we're still a 404. It's wonderful being a stealth guild at times, but it's really annoying as I write my app to help organize the guild and find stuff out about it....I can delve into every guild THAT'S NOT MY OWN!!!

Oh, and now it appears that Blizzard research has discovered we are in fact NOT the only guild who this is happening to. Well, that assuages my persecution complex a bit.

So I thought I'd find a few more. How? Well, there are multiple ways. My chosen 'quick' one is to go to http://wow.realmpop.com and page thru the US Realms one by one, take their list at the bottom, on the right, and find guilds with ZERO members, then try to use the link there. If I find a 404 (it's valid for a guild to have zero members; they could all be under level 10),I go to http://www.wowtrack.org and try to find their status; sadly, I got bored of doing this quickly (about 20 realms in, alphabetically) when none of them existed on www.wowtrack.org. :)

So, here's the start of a quick list of GoF's "Sister Guilds" elsewhere:

Of course, this doesn't MEAN as much as our error, simply because I have no validation on the Armory that these guilds still exist, or even EVER existed. There are more foolproof ways to do this search, using some of the techniques that Realmpop and WoWTrack use themselves, but I'll just leave them to the people who get paid to do this. :)

Still not existing. :) At least there are two GMs 'monitoring' things for me, and sending me messages saying they haven't forgotten, periodically. But beyond that? Possibly not a high priority to get one of Elune's oldest guilds able to find its members and get back in the thick of things come MoP. Hire me for a week, Blizzard, I'll take a vacation and find it!!!

And we continue to 404...though I have another cheerful CS person adding to my ticket, letting me know that the server team is still working on it, and thanking me for being patient. I'm just hoping that when/if they fix it up, they figure out WHAT HAPPENED! Sigh.

OTOH, I'm finding lots of missing (in the sense of 'not available for anyone') info in the API. :)

Update on 8/30: Both these replies from a new GM, with friendly greetings and consolations bracketing them. Inbetween was my report after patch that we were still 404.

#16 on 8/26Good to hear back from you again! Looking into the matter, I am showing that good progress has been made in getting this issue resolved, although I can't guarantee when exactly it will kick in. At this point, I'd say try to check the website again after this week's maintenance on Tuesday to see if anything has changed, as that's a possible time that this information could get updated. Thanks for your patience and understanding while we are looking into the matter. Rest assured we haven't forgotten you or your guild. :)

#18 on 8/29I definitely apologize for the delay in getting this fixed. While it does look like our developers have been working on this, it's still something that still needs some work on. I've gone ahead and let them know that your guild is still experiencing this (I also didn't see it on the site), and asked them to contact me if they need you for further testing or input on this. Hopefully we can get to the bottom of it soon! :)

Hopefully. :) Is there anyone out there on the Team who actually might be reading this? I'd love to find out the problem, if it doesn't resolve magically. :)

Hopefully. :) Is there anyone out there on the Team who actually might be reading this? I'd love to find out the problem, if it doesn't resolve magically. :)

I promise you the web and mobile team knows about this issue. It's been the most frustrating issue we've had (at least since I've started) because (as you mention) it's only a few guilds and we haven't been able to track down why. As you mention there have been some fixes put into 5.0.4 that we thought would help out on this issue. It sounds like it didn't solve the problem :-(

Please don't be annoyed at the GM's, there's not much they can do (since as you said, guild renaming and stuff like that doesn't work). I will try to put more pressure into getting this solved.

The GMs have been great, even the ones that know a little less than others. :) I'm sure the team's been working hard too.

I was just frustated/upset/annoyed/what have you at being told wonderful and wondrous things about these/this web fora/forum, and having 9 or 10 posts over two months (and a problem spanning about a year), and seeing nobody saying a thing in reply.

I now have shiny blue text in my reply. I am happy on all fronts now.

Well, almost all fronts. :)

Guess I better see if there are any openings at Blizzard...maybe a fresh caffeine-code conversion unit (some call us programmers) might help. :)