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I think western fans called it the "true ending" because some other well-known VNs such as Tsukihime and Fate/Stay Night mostly have Good and True endings for each heroine. Since the Good ends are happier, people assumed that this applied to Higurashi and declared Miotsukushi-hen to be the "true end" because it's sadder.

Anyway, if it was the true ending why has it only been featured in the Matsuri version of Higurashi? The original, manga, anime and novelizations all used Matsuribayashi-hen. The reason Matsuri had a new ending was to give fans that owned the PC version an incentive to buy it.

Just a side note:

I've read in some blogs that the NDS version will feature both endings: Miotsukushi and Matsuribayashi. (in the last NDS game, that is)

I think western fans called it the "true ending" because some other well-known VNs such as Tsukihime and Fate/Stay Night mostly have Good and True endings for each heroine. Since the Good ends are happier, people assumed that this applied to Higurashi and declared Miotsukushi-hen to be the "true end" because it's sadder.

Anyway, if it was the true ending why has it only been featured in the Matsuri version of Higurashi? The original, manga, anime and novelizations all used Matsuribayashi-hen. The reason Matsuri had a new ending was to give fans that owned the PC version an incentive to buy it.

Eh, we've already had about 3 solid pages on this thread about why/why not people should consider Miotsukushi-hen as a "true" ending. Most people can decided for themselves, but otherwise just accept Matsuribayashi as the default conclusion.

If you REALLY wanted to, you could compare this situation to the conclusion of the Eva series and the Eva movie.

Not true. That's the most accepted theory. I believe that both are two alternate endings. The only difference between the EVA case and the Higurashi case is that EoE is stated to be canon, that is until Rebuild 4.0 comes out.

But they can both be awesome. To bad Matsuribayashi-hen wasted that opportunity by villain decaying the big bad and not making Keiichi to badass things that he was destined to do.

Spoiler for Miotsukushi-hen:

Keiichi dodging a hail of bullets through sheer force of will is pretty ridiculous. I can tolerate this sort of thing in the Matrix, but Keiichi doing it does quite a number on my suspension of disbelief.

By the way, why are you so much in favor of Miotsukushi-hen? I rather doubt that you have read it.

Keiichi dodging a hail of bullets through sheer force of will is pretty ridiculous. I can tolerate this sort of thing in the Matrix, but Keiichi doing it does quite a number on my suspension of disbelief.

By the way, why are you so much in favor of Miotsukushi-hen? I rather doubt that you have read it.

I've read a summary and I have a really big Higurashi fan friend who owns the game and told me about Miotsukushi-hen. And that is exactly why I like it so much. Keiichi is full of win and it has a better ending.

I don't know which ending trust. I just base myself on the fact this an Expension , and so an OVA for the Anime. But if i'd have to chose an ending. I'd choose the original one. Even if this one is more realistic. There's many visions about these two arcs:
- Miotsukushi-hen is the real world , where rika had "nothing" (not such friends, hanyuu , ect.. a simple and boring life)
- The entire higurashi is just the perfect world that rika dreams of , and the moral of all the game would be , "You must work to have".
But i don't believe in this at all =O

Anyway as for Bernkastel

Spoiler for some thoughs:

Quote:

I think it demonstrates that when Rika memories move to another world, they replace the resident Rika's memories, effectively replacing the local Rika with Frederika. That doesn't explain how Rika manages to act like Bernkastel (e.g. warning Akasaka in Minagoroshi-hen) before her arrival in a world. I must admit I don't really understand that.

I think it's because Frederica is BErn.

" Frederica is Bern and Rika" I think there's a connection.
Rika always talks as bern , but if she lost every memories , she wouldn't have this such old voice. I think , Everytime a world is created, the Rika of this world is replaced by Frederica who is connected to Bern who cannot travel to the human world. But Frederica is Bern , or i should say Bern is every frederica.

It'll do something like this
-Frederica is Bern (that's why every of her poems are FRederica bernkastel)
-Rika from the fact she knows what is happening , what she's fighting ,she's not rika Furude .
-Bern is their accumulations who's sending a little of herself in every world she travels as frederica (The contraction of Furude rika )
I think Frederica is a Code that Bern uses to distingue herself who became a voyager and so cannot be a human. When she takes the resident furude rika's place she choose Frederica who is the contraction of the Human ( Furude Rika (Caus bern is Rika (or Every Rika)) but who's not totally human ,caus Bern is a part of her .
As Hanyuu is named "oyashiro-sama" for the god one , and just hanyuu as the spirit who travels next to her.

( That theory is for the fact " Frederica and bernkastel are differant) I don't believe in this so , for me
there's only 2 rikas.
Rika and Frederica Bernkastel
(and even in the 3 rikas theory , Frederica is Bernkastel)

some other theory:
I think Bernkastel is in Rika as Frederica . Bernkastel said " It's from this game , i'm born". Rika doesn't lose all of her memories. Hanyuu manages to make her remember the most thing she can. and as Bern is born from Rika , Rika acts like her. from the moment of the "Minimum memories she needs to remember" appears(Frederica). Rika talks like Bernkastel , to tell him to return to Tokio . Who knows , maybe her memories came back at this moment. But that's just a theory

After there's the Voyager thing. In the Anime , there were a huge blow of wind before Bern talks. I haven't played this game , so i don't know if the wind was mentioned .Maybe Bern entered her.

I finally played the REI game involving the love magatama. (Played Saigoroshi-hen last night)

Spoiler for !!:

Rena finally all but confessed to K1.

Spoiler for Passage in question :o :o:

"Ke...K1-kun... this...um... may not be my actual feelings? It could be the magatama's power? Um, Ryuugu Rena...really loves K1-kun. ...the power's going to disappear soon, and I just wanted to say that"

and Rika is oddly muka muka

The mahjong scene was too long, even though I do play the game in real life. It's the scene I'd like most for DEEN to cut when the episode is animated.

Got a few minor questions about this patch on page 4, this translate one of the chapters in the 9th game (Fan disc?) Is that what some mentioned here as the 'true end' ? to the story? I've pretty much only seen the game and played episode 1 as it was the only one translated since before.

In any event, is the chapter who was translated in that game coplete on it's own, and where does it kind of put itself if you have only watched the Anime will say. Is there more chapters in the 9th game?