Is there anyway they could have gone to England instead of Germany? I came across this article when I was searching google and found this. It could be a typo :

first stop in Chile and later challenges including the reenactment of a World War I battle in France and a Beatles-centric puzzle in Liverpool, England.

The quote in this article is based upon the writer's thought that a mention of early Beattles meant their early time in Liverpool. Many people only associate the Beattles in Liverpool and are not aware of their early and first appearances in Hamburg, Germany. So this could just be the writer's interpretation of the CBS press release. If the teams go to Hamburg in search of the Beattles, then they might continue by auto down through Germany to visit either infamous German concentration camps of Buchenwald or Dachau (as TAR did previously at Auschwitz-Birkenau) where they could meet the world's most infamous villan: Adolph Hitler (recreated, of course). The teams could easily then continue on through Strasbourg by car to the WWI reenactment site in Lille, France.

Gman,I typically agree with most things you say, but not this time. The distance from Hamburg to Dachau is about 776 km which is about 6 hours 53 mins by Autobahn. Hamburg is near the northwest corner of Germany and Munich (Dachau is 10 km away) is near its southeast corner and it is a big country. Buchenwald is near Weimar in the center of Germany, but is still 390 km, 240 miles and 4hours 20 minutes away. Besides that, Liverpool is specifically mentioned in at least one of the articles written about AR16. After getting to Dachau it would be 677 km or 421 miles to Seclin and a shorter but still huge distance from Buchenwald to Seclin.

The distances from Liverpool to Seclin are shorter and the timing quicker than either of the above. I am not going to state for sure that your scenario will not happen, but a its probability is too low to think about.

Basically, wrong war and wrong countries. Battle of the Bulge is WWII and was centered in Belgium and Luxemboug.....with very minor action on French soil. Antwerp, Belguim was the object of the German couter-attack. So the axis of the attack was from the Ardennes to Antwerp, away from France.

I'm surprised to see how close Lille is to Belgium. If they actually went to Belgium, I will be sorely disappointed they didn't stop in Brussels

OTOH, the cliffs of Dover are interesting. Easy to take a ferry to Calais from there...

Caelestor,The Chunnel goes under the White Cliffs of Dover at Folkestone and comes out at the Pas-de Calais. It is much quicker and more expensive than the traditional ferry crossings. I too would love to see Belgium, a neat country with some world-class cities (Brussels, Ghent and Bruges) on the Amazing Race. It will happen, but despite the proximity to Lille and Seclin I don't think AR16 found time to go there. I hope I am wrong in that prediction.

Gman,I typically agree with most things you say, but not this time. The distance from Hamburg to Dachau is about 776 km which is about 6 hours 53 mins by Autobahn. Hamburg is near the northwest corner of Germany and Munich (Dachau is 10 km away) is near its southeast corner and it is a big country. Buchenwald is near Weimar in the center of Germany, but is still 390 km, 240 miles and 4hours 20 minutes away. Besides that, Liverpool is specifically mentioned in at least one of the articles written about AR16. After getting to Dachau it would be 677 km or 421 miles to Seclin and a shorter but still huge distance from Buchenwald to Seclin.

The distances from Liverpool to Seclin are shorter and the timing quicker than either of the above. I am not going to state for sure that your scenario will not happen, but a its probability is too low to think about.

Apskip, I was only trying to tie in the "world's mosts infamous villian" who in my mind is Aldolf Hitler, but it could be Jack the Ripper or Dr.James Moriarty in London for all I know. But the one article that mentions Liverpool quotes the CBS press release almost in toto but adds Beattles in Liverpool which is not mentioned in the press release.

Hmmm, I would have thought that the Rieper Bahn (which was where the club where The Beatles had their residency in Hamburg was) would have been a big place for sightings.

On the topic of notorious villains, what about Napolean Bonaparte?

We have twitter reports of racers with Star Wars Storm Troopers at the Lucas Films building in San Francisco. I'd expect that Darth Vader (well known notorious villain) hands them a clue. Sort of like how they used Wayne Newton last season.

Sounds reasonable, except I would remove Asuncion (false spoiler) and Kuala Lumpur (not enough time between Penang and Singapore), and put in an extra leg in Shanghai. I can't guarantee that there's a 12th leg, but if there is it would lie somewhere between Bariloche and the Seychelles.

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So if teams are in Seychelles on 12/11, I think there's time for a KL leg on 12/12 and/or 12/13. Having trouble finding time for a second Shanghai leg, though. Our report of filming in Shanghai for 3-4 days is pretty typical for a single leg (including production set-up/tear-down time). Can you help?

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Last time I am going to say this...8 countries per the Press releases.

You can't have both England and Germany so you get to pick only one.

I pick England.

The route is already pretty well organized in the Timeline thread thanks to woden's hard work, see the first post there...

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2 legs in Canada, followed by a leg in Belgium, and a couple of legs in Germany. Then they make their way to Djibouti for a leg, before continuing on to Dubai. From there they head to Indonesia then head to Australia for two legs. Finally, they hit Paraguay before heading back to the US for the final leg in Dallas.

there's 12 legs, in 8 countries, on 5 continents (if you count all americas as one)

2 legs in Canada, followed by a leg in Belgium, and a couple of legs in Germany. Then they make their way to Djibouti for a leg, before continuing on to Dubai. From there they head to Indonesia then head to Australia for two legs. Finally, they hit Paraguay before heading back to the US for the final leg in Dallas.

"Our fans are pretty good. They don't give away too much. Sometimes people love dropping spoilers, but our fans are good. They tend to do it in such a way that doesn't ruin it for fans who don't want to know."--Phil Keoghan

2 legs in Canada, followed by a leg in Belgium, and a couple of legs in Germany. Then they make their way to Djibouti for a leg, before continuing on to Dubai. From there they head to Indonesia then head to Australia for two legs. Finally, they hit Paraguay before heading back to the US for the final leg in Dallas.

there's 12 legs, in 8 countries, on 5 continents (if you count all americas as one)

Seems feasable.

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