Do you now? Aww poor you. Why would I show up in an INTERNATIONAL thread when Spurs have won a couple games, nice logic there. Hold on, maybe you actually ARE from Manchester, I don't think I could associate someone from London with that logic.

Nope, they're not. Don't see what Jeffers, Nugent and Heskey prove, they're not good enough either. I've been worried about England's future since as far as I can remember, it's not the poor amount of players they bring through, more the coaching at a younger level, it's a joke.

You know last season when spurs were in the top 3 and you started acting like you know anything about football... Then when spurs failed you ran away and stopped posting because you looked really really stupid, are you going to that again? Because it's kinda hard to take anything you say seriously when you go crying when you're shown up.

As regards to people saying things about Shelvey/Cleverly/Welbeck... Welcome to reality people! All them times you thought England could win anything, if you actually believed in the so called golden generation, if you actually thought England would beat San Marino by 7 well more fool you.

England will never win anything in anybody on this forums lifetime and the quicker people realise that the better. When you realise this you'll see that Clerverly and Welbeck are good enough for our top 15 in the world at best country who, if they actually ever got to a semi-final would be over achieving.

If any of you disagree with my assessment, feel free to point me to all those amazing players that got us so far in tournaments over the last 15 years

They still need to sort out what the hell their starting 11 is as well as finding a proper midfield

Brazil, Germany, Spain are the teams to beat in 2014 from what ive seen so far

Their midfield isn't bad, they just miss someone like Aimar/Riquelme, and they're devastating going forward. They score a ton and they've looked great since Messi took the armband and they stopped picking 10 new players for every squad. Shipping goals is/has been their main problem, though. They absolutely battered Uruguay last night, who should've had Lugano and Pereira sent off for violent play.

Spain are the team to beat, as for Germany and Brazil, Argentina have beaten both of them recently, scoring 7 goals in the process. Brazil should only be considered favourites by virtue of being hosts, how many teams have beaten them recently? I've seen them lose to Denmark, Mexico (twice) and Argentina in the last 6 months. Germany, well I just don't see a European team winning on South American soil other than Spain.

You know last season when spurs were in the top 3 and you started acting like you know anything about football... Then when spurs failed you ran away and stopped posting because you looked really really stupid, are you going to that again? Because it's kinda hard to take anything you say seriously when you go crying when you're shown up.

As regards to people saying things about Shelvey/Cleverly/Welbeck... Welcome to reality people! All them times you thought England could win anything, if you actually believed in the so called golden generation, if you actually thought England would beat San Marino by 7 well more fool you.

England will never win anything in anybody on this forums lifetime and the quicker people realise that the better. When you realise this you'll see that Clerverly and Welbeck are good enough for our top 15 in the world at best country who, if they actually ever got to a semi-final would be over achieving.

If any of you disagree with my assessment, feel free to point me to all those amazing players that got us so far in tournaments over the last 15 years

I don't actually remember thinking I know anything about football, although I do. I don't know everything however which I'm sure you actually meant, don't worry though, I understood. I didn't disappear though did I? I still posted when we turned to shit, in fact I was one of the few defending AVB back in March/April, look how that turned out, but thats a different story.

And I agree about the whole England thing. How we are even ranked in the top 10 is beyond me.

Their midfield isn't bad, they just miss someone like Aimar/Riquelme, and they're devastating going forward. They score a ton and they've looked great since Messi took the armband and they stopped picking 10 new players for every squad. Shipping goals is/has been their main problem, though. They absolutely battered Uruguay last night, who should've had Lugano and Pereira sent off for violent play.

Spain are the team to beat, as for Germany and Brazil, Argentina have beaten both of them recently, scoring 7 goals in the process. Brazil should only be considered favourites by virtue of being hosts, how many teams have beaten them recently? I've seen them lose to Denmark, Mexico (twice) and Argentina in the last 6 months. Germany, well I just don't see a European team winning on South American soil other than Spain.

Oh, and you're forgetting England.

Tbf, Brazil had that dodgey Olympic defence that consisted of Rafael and Juan during those defeats. Now they have Ramires back in the midfield, Alves at right back and VICE CAPTAIN DAVID LUIZ back in centre back and he seems to always perform for A Selecao.

What I will also point out is that the World Cup is in two years time and I think this Brazilian team has the most amount of growth than any other team. Neymar, Oscar, Moura, Damiao, Sandro and even shitty Rafael (Irish Jet raging right now) will likely improve a lot during those two years.

Honestly think they'll win it. 12 years is too long of a gap for Brazil. They won't let it go to 16.

I definitely look forward to seeing how Brazil can cope on home turf. I will want Brazil to do well because they have Sandro (hopefully still captaining the side) in the midfield and in 2 years time he will be even better than he is now if he keeps improving. But I just WANT Argentina to win it (of course if England don't and no doubt they won't come anywhere near) just so the whole "Messi hasn't won a World Cup" can end, a player of his ability deserves the World Cup.

Saying that though, the World Cup in my eyes doesn't define a player like he has in the past, the Champions League is the pinnacle now for any mans career and it's overtaken the World Cup in that respect and Messi we know has won 3 of those now.

I definitely look forward to seeing how Brazil can cope on home turf. I will want Brazil to do well because they have Sandro (hopefully still captaining the side) in the midfield and in 2 years time he will be even better than he is now if he keeps improving. But I just WANT Argentina to win it (of course if England don't and no doubt they won't come anywhere near) just so the whole "Messi hasn't won a World Cup" can end, a player of his ability deserves the World Cup.

Saying that though, the World Cup in my eyes doesn't define a player like he has in the past, the Champions League is the pinnacle now for any mans career and it's overtaken the World Cup in that respect and Messi we know has won 3 of those now.

You mean starting?

Messi doesn't need to win the World Cup. He just needed to be the man for Argentina. This is now happening. Maybe he feels it's his team now. Whatever it is, he is finally performing like Barcelona Messi.

i just want it to be more entertaining than 2010 (as someone who might not have a team in there for the first time as long as i've been watching.) plus messi will just be in his absolute prime (27) when it rolls around, i can seriously see an argentina/germany final. and god would that be a treat.