...another thing to keep in mind...remember when kariya and selanne did those one year deals for less dough in colorado??...how did that work out...they avs were stacked and flamed out...so let's not hand the wings the cup again, plus there is the championship letdown factor too...

duke66 wrote:...another thing to keep in mind...remember when kariya and selanne did those one year deals for less dough in colorado??...how did that work out...they avs were stacked and flamed out...so let's not hand the wings the cup again, plus there is the championship letdown factor too...

duke66 wrote:...another thing to keep in mind...remember when kariya and selanne did those one year deals for less dough in colorado??...how did that work out...they avs were stacked and flamed out...so let's not hand the wings the cup again, plus there is the championship letdown factor too...

duke66 wrote:...another thing to keep in mind...remember when kariya and selanne did those one year deals for less dough in colorado??...how did that work out...they avs were stacked and flamed out...so let's not hand the wings the cup again, plus there is the championship letdown factor too...

amen...the thing about a detroit demise would mean hossa would shoulder the brunt of the load...he is really setting himself up for a tough road if they flame out and lose to san jose in round two...lets face it...hossa has knee problems...he could also get hurt again this year

duke66 wrote:...another thing to keep in mind...remember when kariya and selanne did those one year deals for less dough in colorado??...how did that work out...they avs were stacked and flamed out...so let's not hand the wings the cup again, plus there is the championship letdown factor too...

Not quite the same situation.... Not really at all, actually.

...it's totally the same thing...both were stars who took a gamble and signed with a cup fav for less money...and they bombed...

duke66 wrote:...another thing to keep in mind...remember when kariya and selanne did those one year deals for less dough in colorado??...how did that work out...they avs were stacked and flamed out...so let's not hand the wings the cup again, plus there is the championship letdown factor too...

Not quite the same situation.... Not really at all, actually.

...it's totally the same thing...both were stars who took a gamble and signed with a cup fav for less money...and they bombed...

someone needs to tell hossa that if he would have pulled his own weight in ottawa he may already have his cup...the i want to win a cup crap when you were MIA in previous playoffs makes me wonder about his own seldf image

I do, his position is if you cant beat them join them. I understand the logic but I think what he did is a bit shameful. That said, he'll likely be hoisting the cup next year!

He is taking so many risks by signing a 1 year deal...

Serious injury, bad season, and if Detriot doesnt win the Cup, it will be blamed on Hossa.

Yes but it appears barring injuries they are a solid solid favorite to repeat.

Yes they are the favorites right now, but that doesnt mean anything. There has not been a repeat champion the last decade.

That really doesnt have much to do with this though. Detroit was loaded even before Hossa, now its just ridiculous. THis is a very dark day so far. IF we would have landed Hossa we were likely right behind the Wings in terms of winning the cup, now we are far down that list (as it stands now).

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Wow. This move makes very little sense to me from Hossa's perspective. The Wings don't have a hugely better chance than the Pens of getting back to the finals next year. For one thing, they have to go through the West. And it would be surprising if the Pens couldn't beat one year at 7.4 mil. Factor in the chance that he'll get injured on the one-year deal, and I don't think I would have sniffed that offer if I were Hossa. Maybe the Pens wouldn't offer him any more than 6.5 mil per? Was there ever a public disclosure from the negotiations?

I do, his position is if you cant beat them join them. I understand the logic but I think what he did is a bit shameful. That said, he'll likely be hoisting the cup next year!

He is taking so many risks by signing a 1 year deal...

Serious injury, bad season, and if Detriot doesnt win the Cup, it will be blamed on Hossa.

Yes but it appears barring injuries they are a solid solid favorite to repeat.

Yes they are the favorites right now, but that doesnt mean anything. There has not been a repeat champion the last decade.

That really doesnt have much to do with this though. Detroit was loaded even before Hossa, now its just ridiculous. THis is a very dark day so far. IF we would have landed Hossa we were likely right behind the Wings in terms of winning the cup, now we are far down that list (as it stands now).

We weren't favorites to go to the finals at the start of last season, either.

Im much less annoyed by this than if he had gone and taken a huge offer from say the Rangers or Habs.... least this way he is out of our conference.

The odds of both us and Detroit getting to back to back Finals is pretty unlikely anyway so this doesnt doubley hurt us since we wont have to play him much if at all (not sure if we have Det on Schedule next year or not)

As for Hossa he is chasing that cup as best he feels he can, hard to think too badly of him for that. Detroit are going to return exactly the same Roster that just won a Championship....... we arent going to be able to return the same Roster that got to the Finals (not with Malone already gone & Orpik a doubt).

davemess wrote:Im much less annoyed by this than if he had gone and taken a huge offer from say the Rangers or Habs.... least this way he is out of our conference.

The odds of both us and Detroit getting to back to back Finals is pretty unlikely anyway so this doesnt doubley hurt us since we wont have to play him much if at all (not sure if we have Det on Schedule next year or not)

Dan H wrote:Wow. This move makes very little sense to me from Hossa's perspective. The Wings don't have a hugely better chance than the Pens of getting back to the finals next year. For one thing, they have to go through the West. And it would be surprising if the Pens couldn't beat one year at 7.4 mil. Factor in the chance that he'll get injured on the one-year deal, and I don't think I would have sniffed that offer if I were Hossa. Maybe the Pens wouldn't offer him any more than 6.5 mil per? Was there ever a public disclosure from the negotiations?

That's why I said this whole thing is odd. I have my own theories, but I'm sure I'll get a hard time if I voice them.

Dan H wrote:Wow. This move makes very little sense to me from Hossa's perspective. The Wings don't have a hugely better chance than the Pens of getting back to the finals next year. For one thing, they have to go through the West. And it would be surprising if the Pens couldn't beat one year at 7.4 mil. Factor in the chance that he'll get injured on the one-year deal, and I don't think I would have sniffed that offer if I were Hossa. Maybe the Pens wouldn't offer him any more than 6.5 mil per? Was there ever a public disclosure from the negotiations?

I think it's as clear as day, if he was really a priority for Shero there is no way in hell that he wouldn't match a one year deal for 7.4 million. Hossa would rather play in detroit. As far as a chance of winning, detroit offers more stability than the penguins. the penguins don't even have enough players under contract for next season.