-You got 9 pieces of gear from heroics in 24 runs which is a LOT of heroics for 2 days but possible.
-Then you bought the DMF trinket which most people can't afford or won't buy but possible.
-You crafted an epic from blacksmithing which is possible.
-Obtained boots from LFR (luck) but possible.
-Klaxxi neck epic (not possible in 2 days I don't believe)
-Got your guild to give you 6 blood shards to craft an epic
-Got your guild to run you 6/6 MV and got a piece of loot there

Oh and by the way "2 Stone Guard kills (LFR Mogu'shan Vaults)". Seeing as this is a week lockout how exactly did you gear in 2 days?

TLDR : Yes, you can get raid ready in 2 days if you are extremely lucky with drops and your guild carries you to a full clear and gives you blood shards to craft epics. Good one.

I think the point people are making is yes you were raid ready to raid with your guild, in which the other 9 members significantly outgearred you and the content. Therefore you were kinda boosted through it.

I think the point people are making is yes you were raid ready to raid with your guild, in which the other 9 members significantly outgearred you and the content. Therefore you were kinda boosted through it.

And if you tanked any raids this tier you would know tanks don't really get carried. By your logic anyone and everyone is carried by the other people in the raid. I was 455 ilvl going in which is plenty for MSV. No I didn't get carried I put just as much effort as the rest of the raid.

Originally Posted by gneugen

Also - you're prot. That means your queues for heroics are approximately 2 seconds. Everyone else enjoys long queues. The point, Nicholas Cage's hair is still a bird, and your argument is invalid.

What argument was that? Reread the post I was more asking if anyone else has done similar.

And if you tanked any raids this tier you would know tanks don't really get carried. By your logic anyone and everyone is carried by the other people in the raid. I was 455 ilvl going in which is plenty for MSV. No I didn't get carried I put just as much effort as the rest of the raid.

What argument was that? Reread the post I was more asking if anyone else has done similar.

You did get carried even if you don't want to admit it. You didn't get carried because you can't play, but if your entire raid group was 455 ilevel I doubt you would have been as successful UNLESS you are a top guild which maybe you are, don't know. A 490+ ilevel healer can easily make up the healing you are tanking in damage from that level of gear much more easily than a 470 geared healer. Similarly 490+ ilevel DPS make each encounter and phase go faster which means less healing and less damage to the tank. Finally, maybe you were the offtank and not MT which takes less damage generally. All of these are you getting carried. Sure, you put in the same effort as everyone else but they made it easier for you which means carried.

I'm not saying you're a bad player but all the things you are stating of getting raid ready in 2 days does not apply to the vast majority of WoW players so your argument is flawed.

And if you tanked any raids this tier you would know tanks don't really get carried. By your logic anyone and everyone is carried by the other people in the raid. I was 455 ilvl going in which is plenty for MSV. No I didn't get carried I put just as much effort as the rest of the raid.

You can put in as much effort as you want, if the rest of your guild didn't had the gear they had than you wouldn't be able to make it. Weither your a tank, healer or dps doesn't matter. When you are undergeared and the rest is overgeared than you get carried. I can go in as Ilvl455 dps preform tactics perfect and follow the best dps rotation my role allows...if you don't have the gear you won't do half the dps of other people.

Over years gear became more of value...being skilled will you get further, but a crappy Ilvl490 mage will still out dps an awesome Ilvl455 mage. It has been like that since half way through Wotlk.

Originally Posted by NightZero88

I'm not saying you're a bad player but all the things you are stating of getting raid ready in 2 days does not apply to the vast majority of WoW players so your argument is flawed.

I also wanna make that clear, nobody is calling you a bad player. You could be better than me for all we know...but that doesn't change the fact that you got carried...wich basicly makes your whole thread pointless.

Congratulations on being able to gear up so fast. Honestly I mean that.

As a comparison, I am trying to gear up my priest (as healer) at the moment. He has been 90 for about 1.5 weeks. I crafted the tailoring chest and hands for him and he was lucky enough to run Sha the day he dinged so got the boots from the quest.

I have run about 16 heroics on him and guess what? 1 healer drop (a trinket) in all that time. I am sitting on a 445 ilvl. I refuse to do any dailies on him due to doing some of them on three other characters, so I won't be unlocking any VP gear from reputation. I realise I could do more to gear up faster but this was supposed to be the "gear up solely from heroics" toon. Not going very well so far.

About 1.5 months ago i re-rolled as a Warrior and managed to hit 90 mid afternoon Sunday. For the remainder of Sunday and Monday evening after work i ran Heroic Dungeons non-stop and managed to get every blue piece i needed, luckely i had obtained tier hands from Sha of Anger when i was level 88 and had my friend crafted me the chest piece. Upon raid time on Tuesday night i was already 466 equipped and managed a full MV clear and had 3 ranking parses on WOL (Best was a 86 on Spiritbender).

It is entirely possible to get raid ready without relying on daily quests and weeks of preparation. Although if you are poorly geared and not pulling your weight, then yes that is the definition of being carried. My expeience was within the first few lockouts of MV, it would be an entirely different experience if i was to re-roll now and jump into heroic progression.

About 1.5 months ago i re-rolled as a Warrior and managed to hit 90 mid afternoon Sunday. For the remainder of Sunday and Monday evening after work i ran Heroic Dungeons non-stop and managed to get every blue piece i needed, luckely i had obtained tier hands from Sha of Anger when i was level 88 and had my friend crafted me the chest piece. Upon raid time on Tuesday night i was already 466 equipped and managed a full MV clear and had 3 ranking parses on WOL (Best was a 86 on Spiritbender).

It is entirely possible to get raid ready without relying on daily quests and weeks of preparation. Although if you are poorly geared and not pulling your weight, then yes that is the definition of being carried. My expeience was within the first few lockouts of MV, it would be an entirely different experience if i was to re-roll now and jump into heroic progression.

Congratulations, you are not the common player. If what you say is true, within the first few lockouts of MV you managed a full clear wearing blues. That puts you in the top I'd say 5% of raiding guilds in this game. Your experience is not similar to most people out there, therefore it is meaningless to this discussion about being raid ready.

I don't get what is with all these people coming in with guilds carrying them or funneling them gear and saying well, I was raid ready the day I hit 90 so clearly all of you should be as well. We get it, you're in a good guild and better than the rest of us but don't try and claim that your situation is the norm because it's not.

Congratulations on being able to gear up so fast. Honestly I mean that.

As a comparison, I am trying to gear up my priest (as healer) at the moment. He has been 90 for about 1.5 weeks. I crafted the tailoring chest and hands for him and he was lucky enough to run Sha the day he dinged so got the boots from the quest.

I have run about 16 heroics on him and guess what? 1 healer drop (a trinket) in all that time. I am sitting on a 445 ilvl. I refuse to do any dailies on him due to doing some of them on three other characters, so I won't be unlocking any VP gear from reputation. I realise I could do more to gear up faster but this was supposed to be the "gear up solely from heroics" toon. Not going very well so far.

I didn't get much luck from heroics either. I bought a lot of 450 gear and the crafted pieces I upgraded a heroic to 471 and will probably upgrade another piece today also.

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Originally Posted by NightZero88

Congratulations, you are not the common player. If what you say is true, within the first few lockouts of MV you managed a full clear wearing blues. That puts you in the top I'd say 5% of raiding guilds in this game. Your experience is not similar to most people out there, therefore it is meaningless to this discussion about being raid ready.

I don't get what is with all these people coming in with guilds carrying them or funneling them gear and saying well, I was raid ready the day I hit 90 so clearly all of you should be as well. We get it, you're in a good guild and better than the rest of us but don't try and claim that your situation is the norm because it's not.

The only thing my guild got me was the gloves. Everything else I got cam from me.

---------- Post added 2012-12-05 at 11:58 AM ----------

Originally Posted by Kezotar

OP got boosted by a guild or his guild and now brags. Good job. 1/10

---------- Post added 2012-12-05 at 05:51 PM ----------

carried very much. guild had the achievement like month ago

jelly? we lost 3-4 members since then also which we replaced last night. So boosted = 1 crafted item from the guild? because all the rest of the items came from my work.

There is really nothing you can say that would prove you wern't being somewhat carried unless you provided logs. It may have not been a hinderence on your guild because they outgear normal MV by a substaintal amount and could carry your weight. But this is completely unfeasable for just anyone to expect to clear MV at 450 ilvl with a run of the mill trade chat pug, and i asusme if your entire guild was 450 ilvl you wouldnt have cleared the instance.

There is really nothing you can say that would prove you wern't being somewhat carried unless you provided logs. It may have not been a hinderence on your guild because they outgear normal MV by a substaintal amount and could carry your weight. But this is completely unfeasable for just anyone to expect to clear MV at 450 ilvl with a run of the mill trade chat pug, and i asusme if your entire guild was 450 ilvl you wouldnt have cleared the instance.

Where did I say anything about having to clear the raid the first time you go in. I was just showing you can get geared enough to enter raids in a few days if you try. No you might not do a full clear but you can get good attempts in