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I always liked the terms white hat, grey hat & black hat. Made me think of that stupid little midget sourcerer from the old he-man cartoon. In case you forgot what he looked like
I will have to agree with HT on this one though. The term "hacker" almost seems useless being that all types of various penetration methods (malicious, non-malicious) and the associated characteristics of the people who are implementing them, have expanded greatly.
I try to use the term "cracker" to imply someone who is attempting to gain access to a system for malicious reasons but, most "everyday" people think I'm talking about something you put cheese on and serve as an appetizer. oh well.
Speaking of cheese, I love the old "hacker" flicks where they fly around visually obnoxious mainframe databases that look more like disneyland than anything that resembles code, and viruses are depicted as little pac man monsters eating code.

By the way, if any of you are cheesy "hacker" movie producers, I can hit 100 random keys on my keyboard (accompanied with some fractal screen savers) and say "I'm in!".

The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his - George Patton

Originally posted here by ShagDevil By the way, if any of you are cheesy "hacker" movie producers, I can hit 100 random keys on my keyboard (accompanied with some fractal screen savers) and say "I'm in!".

Definitely my mistake there. Completely wrong terminology and wording. I wasn't even thinking about skiddies when I made that post, but 9 times out of 10 it was one of them who "hacked" that site. It's pretty ironic how the security site was probably done in by a 12 yr old who read the site's info, downloaded (Hack Kool L337 pack/ w working tr0j!) off Kazaa and basically went to work on the site.

Lol. I wasn't thinking. Excuse my last post PLEASE!!1

Dont let a newb tell you how to do it, or should you?
Signature image is too tall!

And I would feel sorry for the individual that tried to go up against this site... very, very sorry.

You should check out JP's bio... I think only a fool would attack his site. Of course, many DO, but few who would be able to do anything at all, and those are simply dismissed... I don't know if he has it still, but there used to be a constantly-updating list of attacks on the site on the main page. T'was amusing.

Pierce me with steel, rend me with claw and fang; as I die, a legend is born for another generation to follow.
An\' it harm none, do as ye will. - Wiccan Rede

Originally posted here by dopeydadwarf Knowledge, responsibility, and intent are all factors here.

It is far easier to destroy than it is to protect...

I must agree with you here..because when you are protecting a system, you set all of the security, and you just wait...when you attack, you have the advantage, because once you find a vulnerability, its not like the person protecting the computer knows about it, becuse if they did, it wouldn't be there.

Anyway, to get back on track..How long does it usually take for a site like this to 'get back on its feet'?

I dont think anyone is AGAINST this site...and atleast I dont think that a site which is world famous for the secuirity experts in it will ever get defaced....I really dont challenge anyone or anything as such....just that I believe in AO...and you people maintaining it so well!