Tory vs LibDem marginals added in and that’s a lot of Labour leave seats for them to make up. Will the average Rhondda leave voter actually go into a booth and put a cross next to a box that says ‘Conservative party’? I have my doubts. If they do, let’s never, ever hear any more about how bad the Tories are from any of those voters if they lose jobs and public services.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:24 - Oct 31 with 1023 views

Tory vs LibDem marginals added in and that’s a lot of Labour leave seats for them to make up. Will the average Rhondda leave voter actually go into a booth and put a cross next to a box that says ‘Conservative party’? I have my doubts. If they do, let’s never, ever hear any more about how bad the Tories are from any of those voters if they lose jobs and public services.

all to be sacrificed at the altar of brexit

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:14 - Oct 31 by Ace_Jack

all to be sacrificed at the altar of brexit

Innit.

It’ll be interesting to see, but I can’t help think that, for example, the brexit party standing down in RCT doesn’t see their votes go to the Tories, but instead, back to Labour. However much people may want brexit. I believe they underestimate the toxicity of the Tory brand in many of these places. The strength of the ‘grandfather turning in his grave if I vote Tory’ sentiment is, I imagine, an alien concept to someone like Johnson who has absolutely no thought for anything other than himself.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 13:20 - Oct 31 by londonlisa2001

Innit.

It’ll be interesting to see, but I can’t help think that, for example, the brexit party standing down in RCT doesn’t see their votes go to the Tories, but instead, back to Labour. However much people may want brexit. I believe they underestimate the toxicity of the Tory brand in many of these places. The strength of the ‘grandfather turning in his grave if I vote Tory’ sentiment is, I imagine, an alien concept to someone like Johnson who has absolutely no thought for anything other than himself.

Corbyn making this election about the NHS is pretty genius in that regard, weaponises a glaring Labour weakness which is Brexit. That's going to play well in the Labour heartlands.

It's going to be a long 7 weeks for Johnson to hold on to the narrative that a vote for him gets Brexit done, especially with 7 weeks of people pointing out it won't. Plus 7 weeks for him not to do something monumentally stupid is impossible.

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 14:35 - Oct 31 by Uxbridge

Corbyn making this election about the NHS is pretty genius in that regard, weaponises a glaring Labour weakness which is Brexit. That's going to play well in the Labour heartlands.

It's going to be a long 7 weeks for Johnson to hold on to the narrative that a vote for him gets Brexit done, especially with 7 weeks of people pointing out it won't. Plus 7 weeks for him not to do something monumentally stupid is impossible.

Did you just use ‘Corbyn’ and ‘genius’ in the same sentence and manage to keep a straight face?

Tory vs LibDem marginals added in and that’s a lot of Labour leave seats for them to make up. Will the average Rhondda leave voter actually go into a booth and put a cross next to a box that says ‘Conservative party’? I have my doubts. If they do, let’s never, ever hear any more about how bad the Tories are from any of those voters if they lose jobs and public services.

They won’t will they. We spoke about this a few weeks back. Hell will freeze over before industrial/post-industrial areas will return advocates of ‘The Market.’

People like me, and there are plenty of us, have nowhere to go, nowhere to turn. I made the point in work to a friend of mine last night that he hadn’t so much left Labour as Labour had left him.

An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:02 - Oct 31 by LeonWasGod

The troulbe is, he's absolutely streets ahead of Boris and the other ERG numbskulls in the way he conducts himself. Streets ahead.

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Why is that trouble? Unless you want the psychos back in, which you don’t. Corbyn labour won’t get a majority simply because of him and his coterie. Hung parliament with a liberal /nats balance of power is the best we can hope for.

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:19 - Oct 31 by monmouth

Why is that trouble? Unless you want the psychos back in, which you don’t. Corbyn labour won’t get a majority simply because of him and his coterie. Hung parliament with a liberal /nats balance of power is the best we can hope for.

I mean for those who constatntly do what they can to undermine him - the trouble for them is that the man they ridicule and can't stand is 10 times better than their bloke (assuming they're Tories of course, which they may not be).

I'm neautral on Corbyn. He's better than what we have, but then that's hardly a glowing reference. And the anti-semitism investigation is a massive cloud hanging over them. I may swallow the bad taste and vote tactically for them as long as it keeps the Tories out, as that has to be the the main aim. (Labour's Brexit position is sh*t too though).

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:29 - Oct 31 by LeonWasGod

I mean for those who constatntly do what they can to undermine him - the trouble for them is that the man they ridicule and can't stand is 10 times better than their bloke (assuming they're Tories of course, which they may not be).

I'm neautral on Corbyn. He's better than what we have, but then that's hardly a glowing reference. And the anti-semitism investigation is a massive cloud hanging over them. I may swallow the bad taste and vote tactically for them as long as it keeps the Tories out, as that has to be the the main aim. (Labour's Brexit position is sh*t too though).

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:29 - Oct 31 by LeonWasGod

I mean for those who constatntly do what they can to undermine him - the trouble for them is that the man they ridicule and can't stand is 10 times better than their bloke (assuming they're Tories of course, which they may not be).

I'm neautral on Corbyn. He's better than what we have, but then that's hardly a glowing reference. And the anti-semitism investigation is a massive cloud hanging over them. I may swallow the bad taste and vote tactically for them as long as it keeps the Tories out, as that has to be the the main aim. (Labour's Brexit position is sh*t too though).

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Ah yes, the EHRC investigation, which Corbyn will resolve if PM... by abolishing EHRC.

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