Eyewitness: 4 Man Team Behind Sikh Temple Shooting

Apparently there was more than 1 person that saw Jesus turn water into wine, and make 1 loaf of bread feed an entire gathering.

And more than 1 person has seen an image of the Virgin Mary here in Sydney, overlooking one of the headlands of one of the beaches near Bondi. Even
when it was proven to be a trick of light, and SHOWN to be a trick of light, people still say it's the Virgin Mary............

Just because more than 1 person has claimed to have seen something, doesn't make it true......

And the use of hyperbole does not a good argument make.
Perhaps, all witnesses, not just those that support the official story should be accorded the respect of looking further into their account of the
events. Hopefully someone will continue to dig into this story, after all the truth is what we should all be after. This quick "wrap up" of lone
gunman shooter does'nt sit well with me.

I remember a statement by the police officer in charge while the incident was still 'alive'. He said one of the gunmen was shot down and killed, and
there are possibly more inside the temple, holding hostages. Funny, I didn't think it would be so hard to find out if the killed shooter was the only
one and there were no more gunmen in the temple. One would think the people inside would try to come out instead of pretending to be held hostage for
such a long time, waiting for the police to get in first. How long would it take to realize that the one man with a gun had stepped out and had been
shot and killed? This whole scenario as the official story says it it, is possible, no doubt. But is it probable?

Problem with that line of thinking is that there are more than a fair few people on here that like to yell "OMG CONSPIRACYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!" about
every single thing that happens these days. And it's no wonder that when your normal, rational thinking person brings up facts that contradict the
"MSM" story, that they get lumped in with the people that jump at shadows, and shout conspiracy about everything.

I can tell you now, there are a fair few people on here that psychologist/psychiatrists would have a field day with, and would make an absolute
fortune off.

Uh oh, I mentioned psychologists and psychiatrists........better go into hiding, because some people don't like those terms around here, because they
work for the NWO and Illuminati only.......*waits to be called out as a Government Shill/Agent/Black Operator*

Originally posted by Sablicious
If it were a "co-ordinated" quartet, they would have killed more than jut half a dozen +1. They were in a temple--they were sitting ducks. Even a
blind man firing randomly could have killed a handful under such circumstances.

Common sense: avail it.

or .. how about this..

1 is the shooter and the other 3 are lookouts to ensure no one escapes or and everyone stay's down.. and ditch the lone gunman for the
fall

And having people rant and rave about how everything is a conspiracy these days doesn't help get to the facts either, yet there are plenty on here
that have no problem doing that, even when something is less than an hour old.

It would be great if everyone was able to sort the wheat from the chaff, and sort out the facts from the fiction, but unfortunately that rarely
happens these days. People are way too quick to judge, and have their side of the story heard, that they are willing to scream and shout louder than
everyone else, which makes it even harder to get the proper story from the loads of crap. Everyone wants their 5 minutes of fame, and to be able to be
the one to say "HA SEE WHAT I SAID WAS RIGHT!!!!", and aren't willing to step back, objectively look at things, and clearly look at what evidence
is available before making a clear judgement about whatever story is running on the news at any given minute.

And that's why I guess i hardly ever come on here any more, because it's just turned into one big screaming match between one side, and the other.
And when I DO come on here, I don't post in very many topics, because I prefer to try and gather as much information about something as I can before
posting about it. And unfortunately, that kind of thinking is becoming a dying art these days, where everyone wants to be heard, and wants to be the
one that said "I GOT IT RIGHT FIRST! EVERYONE LOOK AT ME!!!". You can look at how the media treats their stories these days to see I'm
right..........

And having people rant and rave about how everything is a conspiracy these days doesn't help get to the facts either, yet there are plenty on here
that have no problem doing that, even when something is less than an hour old.

It would be great if everyone was able to sort the wheat from the chaff, and sort out the facts from the fiction, but unfortunately that rarely
happens these days. People are way too quick to judge, and have their side of the story heard, that they are willing to scream and shout louder than
everyone else, which makes it even harder to get the proper story from the loads of crap. Everyone wants their 5 minutes of fame, and to be able to be
the one to say "HA SEE WHAT I SAID WAS RIGHT!!!!", and aren't willing to step back, objectively look at things, and clearly look at what evidence
is available before making a clear judgement about whatever story is running on the news at any given minute.

And that's why I guess i hardly ever come on here any more, because it's just turned into one big screaming match between one side, and the other.
And when I DO come on here, I don't post in very many topics, because I prefer to try and gather as much information about something as I can before
posting about it. And unfortunately, that kind of thinking is becoming a dying art these days, where everyone wants to be heard, and wants to be the
one that said "I GOT IT RIGHT FIRST! EVERYONE LOOK AT ME!!!". You can look at how the media treats their stories these days to see I'm
right..........

I dont know anything about all that.
I just know some people who were there, are coming forward with a differing account of what is being pushed forward by the authorities and the MSM.
Their accounts are as valid as any others.

I agree that all accounts deserve investigation. However, ATS has a tendency to take a single account that doesn't support the official story,
despite all other accounts, and run with it. Then a week later many on here are believing in some horribly elaborate conspiracy that the facts don't
support. When pointed out that the facts don't support the account these believers simply cry cover up. So, yes, all accounts need to be
investigated, However, we must remember that eyewitness testimony is horrible. While it can prove an invaluable tool in running down leads it should
never be used as a key piece of evidence when it comes time for judgment.

Nothing wrong at all about getting all the eyewitness accounts. Smartest thing to do actually, that way a clearer picture can be gained about what
happened.

The rant I went on was mainly directed at some of the people on here, that have a habit of doing the things I said in my last post.

Basically, alot of the threads on here these days follow these basic running formats:-

OP starts thread
Several others come in a post "verified? source?"
Source gets added
Someone makes comments about source
Another person makes comment about other persons comment
Bunch of people get butthurt, line in the sand is drawn, with some people taking one side, others taking the other side.
Slanging match ensues, with added personal insults about persons intelligence/upbringing/nationality
Mods come in, swing their Mod/Ban-Hammers, tells everyone to stay on topic
Go back to someone making comment about source, and/or what really happened
Repeat until thread dies out, or the Mods/Site Owners lock thread
Repeat ad nauseum with new threads.

Sorry to have gone off topic, just was trying to clarify my position in my last post.

Edit - basically what Xcalibur said, who put it in a much more concise, precise fashion!

"notoriously inaccurate. For example a 1991 study found that in 45% of cases where an innocent person is found guilty it is due to faulty eyewitness
testimony"

but how many cases are there were an innocent person is found guilty?
we must find that as a percentage of total cases then find the "45%" of that to find the cases
that the eyewitnesses are incorrect.

Originally posted by tired
"notoriously inaccurate. For example a 1991 study found that in 45% of cases where an innocent person is found guilty it is due to faulty eyewitness
testimony"

but how many cases are there were an innocent person is found guilty?
we must find that as a percentage of total cases then find the "45%" of that to find the cases
that the eyewitnesses are incorrect.

I certainly cant argue you're point here. I have used the same logic against the use of the death penalty in cases where conviction's were based
solely on eyewitness testimony.

Nothing wrong at all about getting all the eyewitness accounts. Smartest thing to do actually, that way a clearer picture can be gained about what
happened.

The rant I went on was mainly directed at some of the people on here, that have a habit of doing the things I said in my last post.

Basically, alot of the threads on here these days follow these basic running formats:-

OP starts thread
Several others come in a post "verified? source?"
Source gets added
Someone makes comments about source
Another person makes comment about other persons comment
Bunch of people get butthurt, line in the sand is drawn, with some people taking one side, others taking the other side.
Slanging match ensues, with added personal insults about persons intelligence/upbringing/nationality
Mods come in, swing their Mod/Ban-Hammers, tells everyone to stay on topic
Go back to someone making comment about source, and/or what really happened
Repeat until thread dies out, or the Mods/Site Owners lock thread
Repeat ad nauseum with new threads.

Sorry to have gone off topic, just was trying to clarify my position in my last post.

Edit - basically what Xcalibur said, who put it in a much more concise, precise fashion!

Originally posted by roadgravel
Four man hit team and they shoot only 6 or 7 people? Looks like shootings are more difficult then a person might think.

This.

I haven't heard this idea of a "four man" team attacking anywhere else, and InfoWars is not exactly a credible source of information!

It's in the title of the site FFS!

And yes, we all know there really are stupidly ignorant people in the USA (lots of them in fact) who think a brown person wearing a head dress of some
kind is a "terrorist". You can thank your education system for that, completely ignorant of the outside world and almost all other faiths other than
Christianity.

Mentally unbalanced idiot who thinks all brown people with a head dress are terrorists - case closed IMO.

I lean towards your thought there being more shooters, the only problem is if there were 4 and coordinated as this person said there would be a
lot more fatalities.....depending on the amount of people in the temple.
Common sense would tell you that wingnuts like this never work alone so you are on the right track, lets hope the investigators are also.

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