tdedek

bsevern wrote:What I find interesting about Eagle Trace is that they're one of those by appointment only kind of Napa Valley wineries, which seems like it would cut down a lot of sales opportunities.

I've seen a lot of higher end by appointment only Napa wineries that's juice ends up on the flash sites. For example Quixote and Ehlers Estate have shown up a fair bit over the past couple of years, and both make some very good juice.

Seems like a flawed business model, if you make access to your product difficult or pretentious , a lot of people will move on to a more accessible winery.

From what I understand, this is Gus Anderson's 'retirement' project when he left ACV to Todd.

I think they take it pretty easy on marketing and sales in general. I don't think it's them trying to imply exclusivity but I could be wrong. Like you said, many wineries take this approach and end up on flash sites. Which is another reason why the CT values reflect the WTSO prices and why there is so much stock for them to move. I think they are looking to raise money for whatever reason (or looking to cash out soon?) and are using WTSO as the vehicle. Maybe retirement is getting expensive with no marketing campaign to move what you are making. Phone orders only? Jeez.

Great wines. I have ordered the 2007 previously and cracked one open not too long ago. No formal notes but I know it really opened up on day 2 and I enjoyed it. My other one is laying down and I'm considering another set right now to place alongside it.

loveladyelectric

bsevern

2009 Atlas Peak Cab up @ WineShopper for $19.99/bottle. Interesting it's made with fruit from the Atlas Peak home vineyards, blended with small amounts of Cabernet from the other three Napa mountain AVAs (Howell Mountain, Mount Veeder, and Spring Mountain).

If you need a referral let me know, we each get some WineShopper credits

rjquillin

tytiger58 wrote:IMO (just my opinion) I guarantee you will regret only getting 2. As for the price I don't really care about CT valuations, what I do care about is what it tastes like and imo $35 shipped is a steal.

merbill

bsevern wrote:2009 Atlas Peak Cab up @ WineShopper for $19.99/bottle. Interesting it's made with fruit from the Atlas Peak home vineyards, blended with small amounts of Cabernet from the other three Napa mountain AVAs (Howell Mountain, Mount Veeder, and Spring Mountain).

If you need a referral let me know, we each get some WineShopper credits

Well, if I wanted Atlas Peak cab and was willing to pay $35/bottle like the Eagle's Trace, I think I'd get the 2002 pair up on Rue La La now.

There's also a couple of Mountain 3 year semi-aged verticals (Howell and Veeder) for $150. And I won't even mention the 2007 3L.

joelsisk

tytiger58 wrote:IMO (just my opinion) I guarantee you will regret only getting 2. As for the price I don't really care about CT valuations, what I do care about is what it tastes like and imo $35 shipped is a steal.

Only commented because this is the deals thread. Not saying anything about overall QPR, but when I see that the CT valuations are about the same price, and then hear it's been up a few times at the same price, it's not something I necessarily feel the need to jump on.

moondigger

joelsisk wrote:Only commented because this is the deals thread. Not saying anything about overall QPR, but when I see that the CT valuations are about the same price, and then hear it's been up a few times at the same price, it's not something I necessarily feel the need to jump on.

You seem to be assuming that they repeat often. They don't. The last Eagles Trace offer I recall seeing was for the 2006 Cab, not the 2007. Before that it was the Latitude 38, which is more expensive than the Cab. Etc. Not saying they never repeat, but if they do it's pretty rare.

You're basically saying you don't feel any urgency to jump on it because you believe it will come up again relatively soon and at the same price. I'm suggesting it's not as certain as you might expect.

In the end it's no big deal if you miss out on any particular offer. I've missed out on lots of good offers for wines I like. But I see Eagles Trace Cab, and I see it's the 2007 vintage, and I think, "I should get some of that," not "maybe it will come up again later."

cmaldoon

In any case, while I appreciate the effort you all have been making to protect me from buying more, it is still available... and I think I'm gonna go in for a couple more.

If you read my statement again I think you'll find that it was not at all trying to keep you from buying. CT 92+ is high praise from the fickle and varied masses. Especially for a relatively cheap wine.

moondigger

cmaldoon wrote:If you read my statement again I think you'll find that it was not at all trying to keep you from buying. CT 92+ is high praise from the fickle and varied masses. Especially for a relatively cheap wine.

I think you misunderstood my comment. Easier to follow if you read the posts in this order:

moondigger wrote:I figure if I tell all of you about it you'll buy it and they'll sell out before I give in and buy more.

bsevern

The question on the 2007 Eagles Trace Cabernet is whether to lay them down, or drink one now?

I got three, might just decant one, and try it over a couple of nights to get a read on it's aging characteristics. Being that it's a 2007, I should probably put them all in the time capsule for a few more years, but it's tempting to try one now

tdedek

bsevern wrote:The question on the 2007 Eagles Trace Cabernet is whether to lay them down, or drink one now?

I got three, might just decant one, and try it over a couple of nights to get a read on it's aging characteristics. Being that it's a 2007, I should probably put them all in the time capsule for a few more years, but it's tempting to try one now

That's why I like three packs - crack one now, still have 2 to do as you please.

moondigger

bsevern wrote:The question on the 2007 Eagles Trace Cabernet is whether to lay them down, or drink one now?

I got three, might just decant one, and try it over a couple of nights to get a read on it's aging characteristics. Being that it's a 2007, I should probably put them all in the time capsule for a few more years, but it's tempting to try one now

I have only two of the 2006, and am content with opening them when general consensus (CT, various forumites) dictates. However I have four of the 2007 on the way, and might well open one of them for the same purpose you mentioned. That still leaves me with three...

My budget dictates that I can't buy cases of $35 bottles. Were it otherwise, this wouldn't be an issue.

supesk6

bsevern wrote:2009 Atlas Peak Cab up @ WineShopper for $19.99/bottle. Interesting it's made with fruit from the Atlas Peak home vineyards, blended with small amounts of Cabernet from the other three Napa mountain AVAs (Howell Mountain, Mount Veeder, and Spring Mountain).

If you need a referral let me know, we each get some WineShopper credits

I hemmed and hawed on this one, but had a credit to burn, so finally pulled the trigger on 5. I haven't previously had any of their stuff, but I know other folks here are big fans of these guys, so decided at $19.99 per bottle I was willing to dip my toe in based on a lot of the positive feedback I've read.

Would I have been better served starting with one of their other single AVA offerings, and how long should I let these lay down before it is really worth pulling the cork and drinking?

bud8jr

the 2009 nola white hawk vineyard syrah is up on invino for $45 (3 btls) free shipping. had the 2008 when it was offered a few months ago at $13 each. every bottle was seeping from the cork when it arrived, invino said they would issue a refund but asked me to try it first. well, it turned out that all 6 btls were not tainted by the seepage. it was a really good qpr. dont know if the 2009 has the same soft corks.

klezman

2011 Galevan Cotes du Rhone, Paroles de Femme on WTSO. Probably not for much longer, though. It's a Garagiste producer, so if you want to try the kind of thing he sells without the commitment to his way of life, this is a $12 entry. That is also about what he charged last time around for the 2010 vintage of this wine.

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