2 1/2 year old rottie messing over night

We have a female rottie she's nearly 2 1/2 and at least 2-3 nights a week she pooing in the kitchen over night then often eating it but still leaving a mess.

She's goes outdoors before bed and 9/10 times does a poo and wee. We were advised to change her feed to morning rather than evening but this hasn't changed things. We've even changed the make of food.We mostly go bed at 11 and are up at 6.30 sometimes i can come back down at 12 and she's messed.

Having to clean up the mess and mop through every morning before the kids come in the kitchen is really getting to me so any advise greatly received x

I'm sorry but if she has been 'dirty since a puppy ' then you haven't house trained her properly and need to go back to basics ,there was a thread a couple of days ago explaining how to do it properly . Do the dogs share a space ,if so how do you know its her ?

I'd be inclined to break the problem up into two parts;The first is that she has the need to go in the night rather than being able to sleep right through. Is this a diet or health related issue or a behavioural one? Have you had her checked by the vet and have you tried different diets?

The second is that you're not alerted to her wanting the toilet. Does she ask to go out during the day (i.e. so knows to ask to be let out to relieve herself), and do you think she's asking at night but you don't hear her?

I finally watched that dogfood programme last night and incidently a vet mentioned that some dry food is so full of flavourings etc, that it still tastes like dog food when it comes out bleurgh. could it be the your dogs food?

I'm afraid I agree with Floral. If this isn't new behaviour then she just isn't house trained. Dogs are all different and some are easier to house train than others.

You need to devote a few days to totally focusing on training her to toilet outdoors, which will mean hard work and lost sleep, but it's the only way for her to learnwwhere she's supposed to go to the toilet.

Incidentally, did you use puppy pads when she was little? How have you responded when she's made a mess in the past? Dogs that have been trained on pads often only learn to toilet indoors unless they are then retrained to go outdoors. And dogs that eat it when they've messed indoors are often stressed.

What dog food have you tried and what is she eating now? My Rottie is on a raw diet (meat, fish, bones, eggs, veg and occasional fruit) and I've noticed he needs to poo less than previous dogs fed on dry complete. He also gets fed twice a day rather than only having one large meal.