THomas – The Glazers told everyone “Money will never be an issue” when it comes to building the Bucs. You really need to start to trust these guys. Surely, they would never get rid of Hovan, who could be a great veteran presence for their new DTs. What are you thinking? 😉

Silly, silly, silly stuff. Now the Bucs, who are preparing what might be one of the last large rookie guaranteed contracts, are trying to trade veterans and it is still a cost-cutting move? LOL. Let me ask you the obvious question: If the Bucs “save” $4 million” by trading Hovan for a pick but then . . . wait for it, they use the pick to pick up another player and . . . . wait for it . . . they sign other veterans that like Hovan were draft casualties (which is what Dom implied they would do) . . . . are they actually saving any money? My goodness people . . . . JFK was actaully killed by a man on the grassy knoll.

The Bucs traded 2 sevens for a 2011 5th round pick. Another “pure” cost-cutting move because they will never use that 5th round pick and by trading the two 7ths they save a $1.50! Those cheap bastards!!!

JimBuc – It’s really funny how you try to convince everyone that the Bucs are competitive spenders. Maybe they are, but there’s no evidence of that in the new Glazer era. There’s no arugument that they were the lowest spenders on players since 2004. ..You can offer 100 reasons why not, and maybe they make sense to some. BUt you can’t argue with the numbers.

What a terrible decision to trade away two 7th rounders for a 5th round pick in NEXT YEAR’S DRAFT!!!! keyword: NEXT YEAR!!! There are still good players left in this deep draft and we have needs to address!!

Money aside, I view this as a performance issue. Neither Hovan or Sims have performed at a level that warrants them a roster spot. These two guys are big part of the reason that the defense has been steamrolled the past year and a half. I just dont see these particular moves as being motivated by money. If the Bucs were to get anything for either player, I would be shocked.

TJ ..one man on a defense can’t stop the run by himself , but getting rid of the one guy you have the DOES play the run is certaintly not going to help in that goal , you f*ckin nitwit. It would be one thing if we drafted a spaceeater like Cody, we DID NOT!

Last thinbg I am going to say to Radio is this Hovan and Sims did nothing last year if you want to say they stopped the run I guess the numbers lie you the man I am sorry keep Sims and Hovan who combined for 2 sacks 7Tfl on the year Wow . then to bring up Cody if we need him we would need to hire Jenny craig I will ignore ignorance

Joe — I have never said that, all I have said is that the myriad reasons the Bucs have not spent (ManU, no players to re-sign, lockout etc.) are largley resolved now. Unlike you and many others here I don’t think the Glazers will never spend again because my mind is capable of remembering that the Glazers spent the entire farm to win a super bowl and completely remake the Bucs into a recognized brand. I also recognize that business ONLY CUT SPENDING OVER THE SHORT TERM or they die. If you have not noticed, the Glazers are smart business people. They bought the Bucs at $192 mill and it is worth alomst 10 times that now. Same with Manu. Pretty sure I am going to trust their busienss judgment over Joe’s (or Thomas or Eric etc.). No offense.

JimBuc – I’m so glad to read your last comment. You see, business judgement and winning football for fans are two different entities. I don’t know if you get that.

You seem to care so much about their business savvy. …I’m sure everyone here would agree with you that the Glazers are proven, successful businesspeople. Crap, they’re billionaires. …But none of us regular folk care about that, because on gameday for the last several years we’ve watched a team whose ownership seemingly made money/business an issue that superceded winning football.

And as far as the reasons the Glazers haven’t spent, I think it’s very clear. They just haven’t wanted to, and that stinks for us regular folks.

if you can acknowledge that the Glazers are smart business people and you can understand that business ONLY CUT EXPENSES OVER THE SHORT TERM or they die, then you should have no problem accepting that the expense cutting is temporary. The Glazers are not Hugh Culverhouse. Proof of that is all around including, but not limited to, the trophy sitting in OBP.

This whole business lesson you’re touting in all caps doesn’t apply to the modern day Buccaneers in the modern day NFL, unless of course you want to take it to the N’th degree over many, many years without a salary cap floor.

Let’s deal with what’s in front of us. “Money will never be an issue” when it comes to building the team, says Joel Glazer. …Maybe it’s true. Maybe it’s not. But surely there are excellent arguments to be made on both sides. But right now, from most fans’ seats, it seems that Glazer isn’t telling a whole truth here. …That’s what annoys the fans, supporters, whatever you want to call them in whatever country they live in.

It’s a perception game. And the perception, over the last handful of seasons, doesn’t fall in the Glazers favor right now. …Of course, that could all change if Dominik is a draft genius and Raheem The Dream is an emerging gem of a head coach.

Joe — you are looking back, I am looking forward, but even if you llook back the Glazers spent everything they could to win a SB, so pretty hard to imagine they just had what, a change of heart? C’mon, everything the Bucs are doing now resembles the Dungy/McKay era, so why should the spending not alos mirror it. Try to see you glass as a half full of Caybrew instead of half empty

The Bucs aren’t having to “recoup” anything since it didn’t cost them anything to sign either player since they were FA’s. GEESH, doens’t anyone know how to use the english language anymore. You would think a writer would know the meaning of the word. Other than money, there was no investment made in either player.