Love the high-brow attempt at intelligence. A true gifted writer with little substance.

No one is making you come here. No one is making you click on threads or click on the "quote" tab or the "reply" tab in the threads you choose to click on.

If you don't like what you read. Then too bad. Deal with it. But don't tell any of us how to act or feel or that your way is the right way. It's your prerogative. That's all it is. It's not a mandate. I've been supporting the Jets for longer than you have. You have no rights over me, or anyone else for that matter. I've suffered through it all. And I know garbage when I see it. I don't pretend all is good and all will get better, just give it time. This team is a train wreck. I saw it and said so here before the season even started and was ridiculed by the Rah Rah's and the Kentucky Jets (who by the way has now done a complete 180).

Oh, and raise a pinky for me next time you attend a broadway play and dine at a fine restaurant.

It's true I don't like what I read in SOJF-dominated threads because they're so stultifyingly moronic.

It's easy for me to be "highbrow" when everyone else is so déclassé'.

For every post or thread that assesses the Jets situation calmly there's 100 dumbass ones: Constant repetition of the identical sentiment, conflation of facts with fiction, fanciful demands that are extremely unlikely to be met (e.g. "Woody sell the team today") ("Fire/ cut X today") idle threats after a loss ("I'd like to punch Rex, Sanchez, etc. in the face") hopes that the team loses, hopes that players get hurt, traded, wishes for failed / washed up coaches and players to come back to the team (I had to laugh at the post that wanted Brodney Pool back ) and so on.

It's a lazy but predictable response to accuse people who don't march in step with the SOJF mob, that their sentiment is "unpopular" or that they tell SOJF How to act or feel. I never have to this day told anyone how to act or feel, Find those posts, I just point out the utter idiocy and wrongheadedness of certain opinions. You want to "boycott" the Jets fine, but don't make an embarrassing fuss about it...

It's all to obvious how SOJFs get all het up when they hear any contrary voice but as you say, that's too bad, deal with it. You obviously can't, you're all over the map, from the angry "don't tell me/us what to think" to the condescending "I've been a fan longer" to posit your SOJFdom over my fandom, (which I doubt, if so its only a few years at most, as if that inconsequential fact actually matters) to the self-pitying "suffering" which is an insult to real victims everywhere...

In your honor of your steadfast SOJFdom, I am raising a finger towards you, it's just not a pinky..

First, please forgive the imposition of my response to JumbledSh itJest. But, unlike this individual, I respond to a person's accusations face-to-face rather than cowering behind a filthy cloak.

See, last Spring, during my Mom's illness and death, I was offline for a number of months. Upon my return, I noticed that someone had created a thread in the Hampur asking me to "come back". As I read through the thread, there was Jumbled's comment decrying the thread's intent as I was worthless and that my sole function in this community was to post "pornographic material" on JI which anyone could find on their own. (Odd that both Ray and Jumbled would take this tack, right? Or is it?)

First, I would argue that since joining JI in 2007, the great majority of my posts have contributed to various discussions related to the Jets, music, TV/film, and/or humor.

Second, this self-proclaimed "genius of JI" does not understand the word he likes to misuse, pornography. During my tenure here, I have never posted one pornographic image. None have depicted an explicit sexual act or even genital nudity. Zero.

But why would facts enter JumbledS hit's position in an argument when lies and slander are readily available and effortlessly foisted as genuine? Why confront a person with your vile poison when a churl like Jumbled can do it from the comfort of his malodorous warren seeking only to promulgate his narrow-minded, poorly constructed, and flawed agenda? Back in the days of WWII, folks would call such a quisling such as Jumbled a "yellow rat bastard".

In Jumbled's disoriented philosophy (flummoxing to even brilliant theologians and life-long politicos), images of women are always seen as prurient, never as beauty, art, or a natural component of wholesome sexual attraction.
I'm sure a casual walk-through at the Louvre would prompt a tersely worded note to the French government, or local religious entities, about the rampant "pornography (once again, his misuse of the word) on display and its corrupting impact on women and children who witness it. No doubt, upon viewing Michelangelo's David, he would brand the visionary Renaissance master as a "pornographer" whose only intent was to pollute society with graphic male nudity.

Finally, now that all this is out in the open, my hope is that JumbledS hitJest will finally confront, and eventually--through a protracted course of therapy--conquer, his demons related to sexual repression, morbid jealousy (often called "Othello Syndrome"), and crushing self-loathing. Although, to be honest, even if Carl Jung were alive and handling the arduous task, it will be a long road to eventually finally recognizing his failings as a human being and limited spiritual awakening with any hope of redemption in the afterlife (if one exists).

Oh, almost forgot. You never answered how you're able to post here with a new username after your old one, the aptly titled "FlushingJet, was banned. I know most of us can't just get banned, then show up spewing the same malice filled diatribes without missing a beat. Inside deal?

So sad pied piper of porn. I dont need to answer to a filthy matted hair clown of a burnout like you for anything. All you are known here for is as a re-syndicator of penthouse forum letter plagiarized "prose", nudie cuties and lip-locking lezzies for the losers who likely have a parental lock on their Internet. That, and being a SOJF par excellence.

As befits someone who obviously needs to take an ESL course, you attempt to liken me to a "quisling" which is a word for traitor, after a Norwegian collaborator, Vidkun Quisling. So in your zeal to malign me, you are either calling me a Nazi or a traitor, which in the political sense as a patriotic American or in the Jets fan sense as a non-SOJF couldn't be further from the truth.

The rest of your lame-ass screed? Like an unsharpened pencil, leaden dull and pointless, and sure to send your fellow SOJFs scrambling for a dictionary, a thesauraus and their Funk & Wagnalls. They'll toss you out of their clique for being so highbrow so better get some more nudes ready to dispel that notion.

You're big brain has done well for you though I see. I saw that pos you rented and the beer in the cupholder in your SF trip. Between that and the friends you've made on an,internet message board or lack there of. I'm good thanks for asking.

Yeah I'm so small brainy-unsuccessful I fool someone into paying me a nice salary commission and traveling around the country on their dime. They don't let me rent Porsches yet though so maybe you got a point.

MAybe they can let me saddle up on a giant poodle like the one you got as a company car?

What know you of friendship, squire? Everyone in your orbit is little more than a hired temp thrown on the discard pile when you tire of 'em. The freaks here? I wouldn't friend 3/4 of em for all the calzone in Staten Italy.

And does not your signature text mention sumpin' about men with enemies and their character? Character I haz, and then some!

I even volunteered to be an organ donor, they're reserved in your name, don't make me change my mind

Wow, unbelievable that this thread is still going on. Let me help it to continue in perpetuity by posting again!

I love words, so the big words being thrown around on both sides of the board are music to my ears. Long live the big words! But hey - where is this porn of which you speak, squire? And the allegedly "faggoty" pictures that I somehow missed? Where's a poor wench to find these forbidden goodies?

Yeah I'm so small brainy-unsuccessful I fool someone into paying me a nice salary commission and traveling around the country on their dime. They don't let me rent Porsches yet though so maybe you got a point.

MAybe they can let me saddle up on a giant poodle like the one you got as a company car?

What know you of friendship, squire? Everyone in your orbit is little more than a hired temp thrown on the discard pile when you tire of 'em. The freaks here? I wouldn't friend 3/4 of em for all the calzone in Staten Italy.

And does not your signature text mention sumpin' about men with enemies and their character? Character I haz, and then some!

I even volunteered to be an organ donor, they're reserved in your name, don't make me change my mind

It's true I don't like what I read in SOJF-dominated threads because they're so stultifyingly moronic.

It's easy for me to be "highbrow" when everyone else is so déclassé'.

For every post or thread that assesses the Jets situation calmly there's 100 dumbass ones: Constant repetition of the identical sentiment, conflation of facts with fiction, fanciful demands that are extremely unlikely to be met (e.g. "Woody sell the team today") ("Fire/ cut X today") idle threats after a loss ("I'd like to punch Rex, Sanchez, etc. in the face") hopes that the team loses, hopes that players get hurt, traded, wishes for failed / washed up coaches and players to come back to the team (I had to laugh at the post that wanted Brodney Pool back ) and so on.

It's a lazy but predictable response to accuse people who don't march in step with the SOJF mob, that their sentiment is "unpopular" or that they tell SOJF How to act or feel. I never have to this day told anyone how to act or feel, Find those posts, I just point out the utter idiocy and wrongheadedness of certain opinions. You want to "boycott" the Jets fine, but don't make an embarrassing fuss about it...

It's all to obvious how SOJFs get all het up when they hear any contrary voice but as you say, that's too bad, deal with it. You obviously can't, you're all over the map, from the angry "don't tell me/us what to think" to the condescending "I've been a fan longer" to posit your SOJFdom over my fandom, (which I doubt, if so its only a few years at most, as if that inconsequential fact actually matters) to the self-pitying "suffering" which is an insult to real victims everywhere...

In your honor of your steadfast SOJFdom, I am raising a finger towards you, it's just not a pinky..

Originally Posted by Jungle Shift Jet

So sad pied piper of porn. I dont need to answer to a filthy matted hair clown of a burnout like you for anything. All you are known here for is as a re-syndicator of penthouse forum letter plagiarized "prose", nudie cuties and lip-locking lezzies for the losers who likely have a parental lock on their Internet. That, and being a SOJF par excellence.

As befits someone who obviously needs to take an ESL course, you attempt to liken me to a "quisling" which is a word for traitor, after a Norwegian collaborator, Vidkun Quisling. So in your zeal to malign me, you are either calling me a Nazi or a traitor, which in the political sense as a patriotic American or in the Jets fan sense as a non-SOJF couldn't be further from the truth.

The rest of your lame-ass screed? Like an unsharpened pencil, leaden dull and pointless, and sure to send your fellow SOJFs scrambling for a dictionary, a thesauraus and their Funk & Wagnalls. They'll toss you out of their clique for being so highbrow so better get some more nudes ready to dispel that notion.

Originally Posted by Jungle Shift Jet

Yeah I'm so small brainy-unsuccessful I fool someone into paying me a nice salary commission and traveling around the country on their dime. They don't let me rent Porsches yet though so maybe you got a point.

MAybe they can let me saddle up on a giant poodle like the one you got as a company car?

What know you of friendship, squire? Everyone in your orbit is little more than a hired temp thrown on the discard pile when you tire of 'em. The freaks here? I wouldn't friend 3/4 of em for all the calzone in Staten Italy.

And does not your signature text mention sumpin' about men with enemies and their character? Character I haz, and then some!

I even volunteered to be an organ donor, they're reserved in your name, don't make me change my mind