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There is a huge range of possibilities in the realm of perfectly legal activity that has hardly been exploited. Most of the White people who object to the general trend of things never hear anybody explaining the role of Jews, and they don't get any encouragement to have pride in their race. If we could get some kind of substantial media-apparatus going to get White people's heads on straight, it would accomplish a lot. If we got something like that going and it was forcibly shut down, then there would be an argument for resorting to violence.

At least then we would already have a substantial organization. Trying to recruit people after you're a known outlaw is probably rather difficult. I don't think you're about to join Bill White going out in any blaze of glory, are you?

In my view, Bill White is doing what he is doing, not because of some calculation about what would be most likely efficacious, but because it expresses his personality, which is chaotic and impatient.

I think there's some chance that he will have a change of mood and end up turning himself in, which is what Glenn Miller ended up doing after he "went underground" for somewhat similar reasons (fear of what might happen in an upcoming legal process). On the other hand, he's making it harder for himself to do that with the kinds of things he's posting on Facebook.

I think blogging does help. My national-socialist blog get hits from universities and school-systems all the time. You keep planting seeds and eventually there will be a forest. It doesn't happen all at once.

You [phorafags/feebs & Internut fuktards] are just a bunch of pussies talking shit.

Now, let me address the other assholes, one of whom I understand is a Mexican working for the Village Voice but who considers himself "white" and "anti-Semitic" and so apparently can participate in "the movement".

There have been several organized efforts to smear and lie about me over the course of the past fifteen years or so. In the white movement, there was an effort led by Kevin Alfred Strom, which involved in the pedophile wing of the white movement -- and which still has some resonance. There has been another effort centered around Don Black -- the movement to call me "an informant". There are several others that call me things like a "Jew". But what I found most interesting at my trial was that the federal government admitted that all of these slander efforts, ultimately, were being conducted by individuals on their payroll.

You see, the feds tried to introduce against me a Wikipedia page that had been written about me. And there was a sidebar conversation about the admissibility of this page, because the 90-year old judge didnt know what Wikipedia was. And during this sidebar, the feds admitted that they had paid someone to write the Wikipedia page in question -- and that we had a lot of discovery indicating that they were actually utilizing a large number of people on their payroll to go on the internet and slander me -- part of what an FBI memo called an effort to "discredit me". Why? Because the FBI runs most of the white movement in the United States, and it "discredits" and criminalizes anyone in that movement it does not control.

Now, if you want to call me an informant, without naming a single person I've "informed" on, go to my PACER file and download either the 5.K.1 or Rule 35 motions showing I'm an informant -- these are documents filed as a matter of course when an individual cooperates with the federal government.

Here is the truth: The federal government never intended to ever let me go. When I first arrested, I was told I was going to server 75 years in prison, and my first plea bargain offer was for 35 years. The feds never offered me a plea to less than 60 months, even after the trial was over and they had thoroughly lost.

I spent almost all of time in prison in supermaximum units -- the SHUs of various facilities -- and only a few months in population at a Medium security facility. I was repeatedly offered release if I would cooperate in a way that would have caused the arrest of many of the assholes who come on these boards and call me an informant and a jew and so forth, and I refused to cooperate in any way, shape or form. If I had, those assholes who were not arrested as a result would now be praising me, because the feds handling them would be telling them to.

You loudmouthed assholes have no fucking idea what I lived through,

So, you want to talk shit on the internet -- go ahead. Talk your fucking shit. Frankly, all the internet bullshit in the world can't put you at the top of my list of people who need killing. But I hope -- and I think -- that most of the peanut gallery out there understands -- you are just a bunch of pussies talking shit.

Don't snitch me out bro Bitch-Tits!!!

Bill, you must think that your present situation is really trivial if you have time to come to a little forum like this to make accusations against me. Ha, ha, la de dah . . . You ain't going to snitch me out over muh little meercunt ways, are you?

I suggest you turn yourself in and get some psychiatric treatment. I am very serious about that. jew psychiatric help has made me the meercunt I am today, Bitch-Tits.

You've gotten yourself into a terrible situation completely unnecessarily, for nothing. I'd have admitted everything like Kevin Alfred Strom did, and then snitched out everyone else while the ratting was good.

Since muh mangina-lord Kevin Strom keeps getting mentioned, this might clarify some things. I was actually surprised when I read this. No really. I'd NEVER post anything which would tend to prove that me and muh fearless leaders are full of shit.

Bill, you must think that your present situation is really trivial if you have time to come to a little forum like this to make accusations against me. Ha, ha, la de dah . . . You ain't going to snitch me out over muh little meercunt ways, are you?

I suggest you turn yourself in and get some psychiatric treatment. I am very serious about that. jew psychiatric help has made me the meercunt I am today, Bitch-Tits.

You've gotten yourself into a terrible situation completely unnecessarily, for nothing. I'd have admitted everything like Kevin Alfred Strom did, and then snitched out everyone else while the ratting was good.

Since muh mangina-lord Kevin Strom keeps getting mentioned, this might clarify some things. I was actually surprised when I read this. No really. I'd NEVER post anything which would tend to prove that me and muh fearless leaders are full of shit.

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All right, first of all, Kevin Alfred Strom is a convicted pedophile, and I was at his trial, saw the evidence, and there is absolutely no question that he was taking pictures of people's kids and masturbating to them, not to mention writing them love songs and the like.

These are not "accusations". The fact that the "white nationalist" movement attracts men with serious sexual deviance, ranging from pedophilia to bondage fetishes to various homosexual fetishes is nothing new. I used to have to vette applications for the American National Socialist Workers Party, and about a third of the applications we received were from men who openly participated in "neo-Nazi" homosexual fetishes, including leather-man, bear-man and other bizarre sex. Many of these were also members of the National Socialist Movement.

Anyways, if you don't want to address this issue, that is fine, but these are not "accusations". They are largely admitted facts and something the "white movement" has needed to address for a long time.

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As to "my situation," I assure you I am in no situation at all. Since I left the United States I have learned how it feels to be able to sleep again without fear of the US government kicking in your door and murdering you. I am in the least actual danger I have been in for the past four years, and it feels wonderful..

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Hal Turner was prosecuted for trying to extort the US Marshals service after the FBI fired him, but he was certainly instigating violence at the direction of the FBI.

I spent years in federal prison -- much of it in a pre-trial facility -- and in the few months I spent in population there (one of my two brief times out of isolation), I spoke to hundreds of federal inmates and learned a lot about how the federal government actually works -- not how people who are paranoid and have read reports about it think it works.

The FBI regularly incites, manufactures, and directs violent criminal acts because there is a combination of not enough actual crime and not enough ability among the FBI to deal with actual crime to keep the FBI in business. There is no question that Hal's solicitations to violence were being directed by the FBI.

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As to me, I spent two and a half years in prison and did not plea or cooperate. The typical FBI informant is a person who has been arrested in another case who is release with the agreement of the US Attorney's Office on bail and then goes around setting other people up so he can get a time cut on his sentence. This kind of operation always appears in court records as either a 5K1 or Rule 35 exemption. If you don't see one of those, you can be assured the person did not cooperate.

However, in my case, I did not even *plea* never mind *cooperate* -- and I could have and made my life a lot easier.

There are a number of organizations, the FBI being the largest, who pay people to work for them and to disrupt political movements in this country which the government does not approve of. Every FBI agent -- and there are 10,000 of them -- is required to have at least four and is encouraged to have at least ten paid informants in their area of operation reporting to them and acting at their direction. There are at least 100,000 Americans on the FBI payroll alone who spend their time informing on different types of political and "criminal" organizations in the United States. The US Marshals, the DEA, the ATF (whatever they are called now), ICE, the IRS, the wildlife and game people, the fucking postal inspectors -- they all adhere to a similar policy (though I admit the postal inspectors probably maintain less informants -- but who knows?)

Thus, everyone should be constantly afraid of the FBI setting them up.

But, this is how the FBI actually sets people up in general -- there have been a number of times that the FBI has deviated from the script and something like the OKC bombing has occurred, but those are exceptions to the rule:

1) The FBI attempts to manufacture a conspiracy. A conspiracy generally involves two or more people who are not federal agents. A typical FBI conspiracy case goes like this: The informant locates someone and persuades them to commit a crime. They then say "can you get someone else to help us", thus creating the conspiracy.

2) The conspiracy is usually built up along federal sentencing guidelines. Thus, in drugs, the conspiracy may start as "lets rob a drug dealer of a key of coke and sell it" -- conspiracy to distribute narcotics. Then, it becomes 5 keys, then 10, all the way up to 30, which is a drug trafficking conspiracy. In the "terror" field, this often means "lets bomb an occupied building" (35 year mandatory minimum) or something along those lines.

3) The federal agent supplies and controls all the weapons all the time. This is a key of FBI thinking -- they don't let people go free with weapons. So the FBI will introduce you to the guy who is selling you the bomb -- and then encourage you to counterfeit money to pay the guy. If you have your own gun, the FBI agent will suggest you put it in the trunk or otherwise conceal it before you go to the meeting spot, etc.

One thing the FBI does not do is give you the home address of a federal official and say "go kill them", leaving you on your own to figure out how when and where. The FBI always maintains total control of the operation.

4) The FBI agent gets you on the phone and provides you with "code words", letting you think you are speaking secretly when really you are speaking their language. They will then "decipher" your message at trial to impress the jury with how smart you are. For instance, if you are ever involved in a murder solicitation and you are told that the password will be "to paint the house" run.

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I have never done anything that looks like an FBI sting operation -- and anyone with experience in the feds would know that. What we have are a combination of paranoid morons and actual federal agents exploiting the naivety and paranoia of the white movement to "discredit" men -- which somehow has been one of the primary goals of their "domestic terror" operation for the past ten years.

And, that said, let me say plainly: The US government is an incredibly violent, sadistic, murderous, lawless and sick organization. The people employed by it do not understand reason and do not care about the law and things like "civil rights". The only thing the US government and its officers and employees understand is violence and the possibility they may be murdered in their homes -- and that is about the only thing they really fear.

Until the white movement has positioned itself where it is able to murder US government officials in their homes or anywhere they may be, white nationalists will remain sheep herded by wolves, and our flock will continue to be culled by those who are more ruthless and more violent than we are.

Mr. White. This is Starr/Kristen Jemming the phorafag/feeb token whigger pussy here, the one who hides the fact that phorafags/feebs is a Belgian Shephardic jew data-mining operation. Of course you are 100% welcome to post on our forum to tell your side of the story and we -- with the exception of Hadding, WhiggerSwill Welass, and all of the other Piercetards scared shitless that you are going to say something that makes us look like ZOGbot pussies -- are glad to have you. But we definitely frown upon any accusations of something as serious as pedophilia, especially since this accusation is as common as dirt. As you can see that has been removed from your posts twice now. Please don't do it again. You don't want my phorafags/feebs Piercetard barren coosh clenched around jewr neck, Bitch-tits.

Do you really want to hurt me, Bitch-Tits?

Bill, you are telling some outrageous lies. Lies, lies. Nothing but the inconvenient truths that I call "lies." That's how you and I got athwart each other in the first place. Making me have to go about cleaning up these "truth eruptions" like I have to do with Harold Covington.

As for Kevin Strom, he pleaded guilty to possessing child-porn. If the pictures from Met Art were the basis of the case, as Yoder's letter implies, then he really should have pleaded innocent. Strom's stated reason for pleading guilty was that he wanted to get home to his autistic son sooner rather than later. I strongly disagree with that decision, if that's really why he did it, because the damage to his reputation is something that he and everybody associated with him has to live with permanently now.

The fact remains however that expert opinion said that he was not a pedophile. If "pedophilia" is a crime, he wasn't charged with it, much less convicted.

It's kind of amazing that you're going off on Kevin Strom, because he has nothing to do with anything here.

These are not "accusations". The fact that the "white nationalist" movement attracts men with serious sexual deviance, ranging from pedophilia to bondage fetishes to various homosexual fetishes is nothing new. I used to have to vette applications for the American National Socialist Workers Party, and about a third of the applications we received were from men who openly participated in "neo-Nazi" homosexual fetishes, including leather-man, bear-man and other bizarre sex. Many of these were also members of the National Socialist Movement.

Maybe you should have recognized at this point that the ''WN Movement'' has zero potential.

I mean, you set up an NS organization, and a third of your applicants were zonked out homos who wear leather. Instead of maybe re-evaluating life at that point, you published a zine suggesting people should kill niggers.

Does it strike you ever Bill that maybe you're doing counterproductive things?

Itz never cunter-prodicktive to be a whigger/mamzer meercunt. jewst safer to chirrrr, chirrrr, chirrrr from jewranus.

The only thing I was doing that was counter productive that was trying as best I could to obey the law and be peaceful. That is what let the US government kick me around. If I had just acknowledged up front that all efforts to advocate for white people are inherently unlawful in a Jew-communist system, I would have been better off, because I would have had the good sense not to acknowledge my criminal acts publicly.

The belief Americans have that they can change the American political system without shedding blood is the greatest impediment the "white movement" in the United States faces.

And, I have nothing more to do with the "white movement", so, I agree, its worthless.

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As to Hadding, first, I note that you have not yet said "I never said I was sexually attracted to recently post-pubescent girls." The reason you haven't said that, Hadding, is because anyone with access to VNN's archives could prove you wrong. I met a lot of turds like you and I have a scar on my arm from where one bit me while I was cutting his face off with a homemade shank, so watch your punk ass.

Second, I was *at Kevin Strom's trial on the charge of enticing a minor across state lines for sex*. What the judge ruled when he acquitted Kevin of that charge was that 1) hiding in the bushes outside a nine year old girl's elementary school; 2) sending that nine year old girl a pink angora sweater a la Stanley Kubrick's Lolita; 3) telling a nine year old girl you love her and want to marry her; and 4) writing a love song to the tune of "here we come a wassailing" and singing it to a nine year old girl was not a crime.

Now, if those acts don't constitute sexual love of children, I don't know what does.

As always Hadding, you are taking immoral positions out of a combination of ignorance and a desire to defend someone who shares you sexual proclivities.

And the admin would like us to drop the subject of what a perv you are so why don't you shut the fuck up and stop trying to defend something that everyone who has been around more than a few years already know about you.

This is like Jamie Kelso coming here and claiming he's not gay. Of course he's fucking gay -- that's why he is never on the front page of the SPLC's Intelligence Report -- they protect their own.