You are basically a dead person because it would take you too much of your time to recover from stress you have suffered in the past. But instead of being honest, you are pretending you can save yourself via drugs, without actually healing your wounds.

I got a philosophy degree, I'm not upset that I can't find work as a philosopher. It was my decision, and I knew that it wasn't a money making degree, so I get money elsewhere.-- Mr. Reasonable

Magnus Anderson wrote:You are basically a dead person because it would take you too much of your time to recover from stress you have suffered in the past. But instead of being honest, you are pretending you can save yourself via drugs, without actually healing your wounds.

I am not a masochist. That white guy Pandora linked to in another thread is because he wanted to experience stress that is beyond his level of tolerance . . . just for the thrill. There is no reason for that. I also think he didn't know what his threshold level is so he kinda thought he might get a jackpot . . . he would let bullet ants sting his arm and maybe he would discover he is strong after all. That's gambling. No need for that. If you want to know your pain threshold level, all you have to do is gradually expose yourself to the pain inducing stimulus until you reach the point when you have to pull out. No need to freak yourself out.

I am not saying you should expose yourself to any kind of stress. That's stupid.

But once you've been exposed to it, for whatever reason, you have to focus on making a full recovery from it.

Instead of dreaming of zero stress universes. Which distracts from recovery.

I got a philosophy degree, I'm not upset that I can't find work as a philosopher. It was my decision, and I knew that it wasn't a money making degree, so I get money elsewhere.-- Mr. Reasonable

I ain't Ecmandu. I wouldn't make a zero stress or pain universe, that's boring. My universe would have Quake 3 arena deathmatch where you feel the pain (but also have it so you can respawn after you die.)

A Shieldmaiden wrote:------------------------------------------------------------------When I used the word empathy I suppose I am using it in it's original meaning where empathy named aesthetic experiences of other people a more scientific physics-psychological process, which has it's own field of investigation and which Ecmandu seems to embrace.

No, saying that Ecmandu is just having a particular kind of aesthetic experience, does not excuse him from judgment. He cannot hide in an art gallery. There are people who like being chained and whipped in dungeons and write books about it describing it as having as one of the kind spiritual or aesthetic experience, and it still does not excuse them from being judged and psychoanalyzed. I'm sure many of people in mental asylums would claim to have some kind of extraordinary aesthetic experience, not fully understood by the rest of people. So what?

Besides, Ecmandu should be thankful - he was asking for attention... and he got it.

You're welcome, Ecmandu.

Ecmandu wrote:I'm an ultra narcissist because I want everyone to have everything they want in their own constructed universes???

No, because, YOU want to have everything your way in your fantasy universe.

Narcissism as the story goes is people who can't stop looking in the mirror ...

That's you, Ecmandu.

Pain and suffering eh?

You should thank everything in existence that you haven't experienced what I have endured ...

If you experienced even 5 seconds of my life, you shallow arrogant assholes, you'd throw yourself off a building... I don't need your puerile crap about how noble you are.

Oh yeah, you're not a narcissist.

It's not noble to endure pain, it's not a fucking game you shallow pieces of shit!!!

Ecmandu wrote:[A] narcissist is a person who wants everything to go their way at the expense of others.

No.

A narcissist is a person who cannot accept who he is because that fact triggers too many emotional reactions. In other words, his past is very painful, no doubt because it is rich in mistakes, and he has no patience for it. So instead, he denies who he is by pretending he is someone else. That makes him feel good.

Usually, he is compassionate, like you are, because he has no interest in tolerating pain, instead demanding that the world be configured in such a way such that he never feels pain.

I got a philosophy degree, I'm not upset that I can't find work as a philosopher. It was my decision, and I knew that it wasn't a money making degree, so I get money elsewhere.-- Mr. Reasonable

Ecmandu wrote:[A] narcissist is a person who wants everything to go their way at the expense of others.

No.

A narcissist is a person who cannot accept who he is because that fact triggers too many emotional reactions. In other words, his past is very painful, no doubt because it is rich in mistakes, and he has no patience for it. So instead, he denies who he is by pretending he is someone else. That makes him feel good.

Usually, he is compassionate, like you are, because he has no interest in tolerating pain, instead demanding that the world be configured in such a way such that he never feels pain.

This is the problem with you Magnus. You think emotional reactions are BAD, BAD, BAD…

Most times narcissist become someone else inadvertently.They not only wear different hats, they were born as Joseph Campbell described them, on their way to higher incarnation That is the realms pain initially, the narcissism is an over reactiona of their natural confusion in this process.

Narcissism is not the disorder of always looking in the mirror... It's the disorder of not looking in the mirror... Of not seeing that you're talking to yourself when you talk to others ...

The reason people are so adverse to me saying what I say, is that they want to think of themselves as upright, good people...

And then here comes ecmandu with a proof that you're all assholes and cunts...

I can hold that space, you cannot Magnus...

I'm not the one with the huge ego here... All of you are.

You're talking to yourselves, believing your talking to me.

Personality disorders all blend together...

Narcissists are sociopaths, are histrionic and are borderline ....

You are all so dead to yourselves that you can't even see it.

You know what?? I don't want to fucking fix you, I just want heaven for all of us where we are ...

Does Pandora really think that someone who uses behavioral signatures of other people only cares about themselves... Actually, pandora doesn't even know what the fuck I'm talking about... But she knows I factually called her evil.