Pat Robinson on Haiti's Pact With the Devil - How I See it

Pat Robinson

Pat Robinson, is a bigoted old man, very much set it his way of thinking. After decades on Christian television, he is no longer held him in the high esteem he held in the past.

It is amazing how many Christians believe as Pat Robinson, of the 700 Club believes; that Haiti is cursed for the actions of their forefathers and this is the reason for a string of bad luck she has experience down through the years. This is one of the long lines of bizarre comments he has made over the years.

Haiti was the first post-colonial, black lead nation, that won independence, from the French, by a slave revolt. My personal belief is, that is was probably a rumor spread through oral tradition; but very far from the truth.

If we would examine our own history, I believe we will find many things, that could cause God to turn away from us. The United States of America has not had a stellar reputation, in human rights, fairness, religion, honest government and many other areas.

To those who believe that Haiti is cursed because of the sins of her forefathers, then I say to you, "if Haiti is cursed, then so is America."

Is America cursed?

How often do you hear someone say, America is a blessed nation because we believe in God? The demons believe in God and tremble. It is not enough to believe in God, but to live, embody and to walk out His law and precepts.

I believe that America is so much more offensive to God because of the claim, "one nation under God," You can turn on the TV anytime and hear religious messages are preached on TV, Radio, and Internet, yet is live as though God is dead.

Christian don't love one another, so how can they love anyone else. War is the norm, yet people are starving, homeless and left to die, yet Pat Robinson feels he has the right to Judge Haiti.

History of Haiti's Poverty

America's Transgressions

Why should God be displeased with the United States:

Our government is doing business with ungodly nations, now in bondage to China for billions

We go to other nations and murder their innocent, in the name of democracy

Our government allowed thousands to drown, because they were black and poor

Legislators have passed laws, that allow the murders million of unborn children each year, in the name of the right to choose

Our legislators have passed laws, that allows young girls to get abortions with their parents knowledge

Pornography is our number one gross national product

American laws and courts systematic rape and murder of children being allowed, by not putting strong laws in place to protect our children. The average sentence for a sex crime against a child is 3 years!

Our political leaders don't serve God, but serve money; selling this nation to the highest bidder that they might become rich.

Those who make our laws and govern this nation, live ungodly lives themselves.

Moments after the Haitian Earthquake

Slaughter of American Indian

America has a shameful history of oppressing and persecuting persons of color and foreign origin:

American Indians: hunted to near distinction; still living in desolation and poverty

Africans: The first African slaves arrives in Virginia in 1619 ( lasted over 400 years)

Chinese: Helped build the railroad, but mistreated, harassed, hated

Irish: Hated as immigrants, characterized as drunks and lazy

Jews: Persecuted since their appearance in the 1800's, forbidden membership in gentile clubs, job

Catholics: Mistrusted and persecuted because they worshiped differently

Scars from the horsewhip

America's Shame

Condoned the practice of slavery

15 US president were Freemasons

Hunted Indians into extinction, displace and stole their land

America dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima

During WWII, over 120,000 Japanese Americans, had their homes and property taken and were forcible imprisoned in War Relocation Camps

Banned prayer school prayer, etc.

History of Racism and horrendous acts against blacks

The United States Constitution itself, did not Condemnation Slavery

Hiroshima after the Atomic Bomb

In Conclusion

My final thoughts are, Pat Robinson, should not worry about why another country has suffered so many hardships, or whether or not they are cursed.

Robinson needs to examine this nation, and its crimes against humanity down through the ages and ask himself.

Why is American cursed? Why is she doomed to fail, unless she rid herself of self-righteousness, greed, racism, bigotry and criminal acts of war against other nations?

Having In ‘God We Trust' is a slogan not a declaration of the lifestyle for this country. To those who feel Haiti is cursed, I say, America is the one who needs to repent or we will become a broken and impoverished third world nation as well!"

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Pamela Lipscomb 5 years agofrom Charlotte, North Carolina

MizBejabbers, you seem to forget Hubpages is community. A community where helpful friendly writers are embraced. Here, writers go out of there way to encourage and inspire. It seems you find rude, and pushy behavior acceptable. As my Mother always said, it is not what you say, but how you say it! You always have an option to say nothing. Which seems to be very difficult for you. My hide is plenty tough, I am a native New Yorker, born and bred. I just don't do rude!

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Pamela Lipscomb 5 years agofrom Charlotte, North Carolina

Thank you for your unsolicited critique of my hub! Let's do this...I will write what I want to write, and you can write what you want to write! I think that will work out great! If you want to give people the benefit of you expertise, I advise you do it in a private forum, such as email. Let's learn to make friends while trying to positively impact writers.

Doris James-MizBejabbers 5 years ago

I really don’t understand your point. You start off on a very justifiable subject, Pat Robertson’s saying that Haiti is cursed, which I was expecting to be a good discussion of why you think Pat Robertson maligned Haiti. Next you go into a rant against America, although Pat Robertson does not speak for anyone but himself and his fellow misguided nuts, which constitute a very minute portion of this country. I think if you had stuck to your original point you would have written a much better hub. Everyone with any sense knows that Pat Robertson’s sanity left the building years ago, and why would anyone put any stock in anything he says.

Now, I’m not defending the dark side of the United States history. I am of Native American ancestry and my people had to hide out in the hills and marry whites to survive. I have had Japanese friends who lived in a relocation camp in my home state, and I don’t approve. But I don’t believe that God punishes anyone, Haiti or the USA for their “sins”. I believe this is a knee-jerk reaction from ignorant fundamentalists. I do believe that there is such a thing as Karma, and that all will come out right with God in the end.

The point I’m trying to make is that when you have a very good subject for a hub, stick to it. That is what good writers do. Don’t go off subject on a rant against a nation whose people probably agree with you on your original subject. It doesn’t make sense.

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Pamela Lipscomb 6 years agofrom Charlotte, North Carolina

ngureco, I can not say why Haiti remains in such poverty. I may be a mixture of culture and corrupt government. I could be that here is noting in Haiti that anyone wants such as diamonds, gold or oil. If Haiti had oil, believe me, it would be a different situation. American would be all over it.

ngureco 6 years ago

It’s very worrying that Haiti has such a close proximity to US yet very little wealth/influence is trickling in to that poor country. Maybe they can’t learn, maybe they are cursed, or maybe there is more to it that we don’t know.

America is very busy looking at the welfare of other countries that are thousands and thousands of kilometres away, yet the tiny Haiti just next door is suffering. Maybe it’s America who has cursed Haiti. Perhaps what Haiti can do is to make handsome sacrifices to America gods to cleanse Haiti.

mquee 6 years agofrom Columbia, SC

I remember when Pat Robertson made that idiotic statement. It isn't the first stupid thing he has said. For someone who calls himself a religious leader it is inexcusable to make biased statements like this. Sadly, his statements could cause other unthinking people to jump on his bandwagon. You put this hub together in very good fashion. Very good!

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Pamela Lipscomb 7 years agofrom Charlotte, North Carolina

Pipa, thanks for your comments. You prove that right is wrong whether you believe in God or not.

Pipa 7 years ago

Though I'm agnostic, and din't like some of the things you wrote in this hub, most of it was fitting.

Child molesters should be punished severely, and America?

If god was punishing Haiti or any other state for what they did, than America would have to pay for both Japan A-bombings, Korea War, Vietnam War, Irag-Iran War, both afghanistan Wars, the last Iraq war & for all those native Americans & african Slave that they mistreated & used & so much more.

Now that I think of it, America wouldn't be on the map anymore, if we or, god would put out the Karma Scale!

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Pamela Lipscomb 7 years agofrom Charlotte, North Carolina

You are right Brooke. Thanks for your comment!

Brooke Lorren 7 years ago

Great job. We can't know the mind of God anyway.

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Pamela Lipscomb 8 years agofrom Charlotte, North Carolina

Hey James, thanks for stopping by to respond to my hub. I really don't mind being challenged. It is called healthy debate! Pam

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Pamela Lipscomb 8 years agofrom Charlotte, North Carolina

Thanks Ben. I am not a Haitian, but every time I heard or read someone trying to support the lie that Haiti was cursed, I felt so hurt. As though I was on the ground and someone came along and kicked me. What did Michael Jackson and Lionel Richie write...we are the world!

glassvisage 8 years agofrom Northern California

Wow, I'd never heard the argument that Haiti is cursed. Certainly many Americans have done things that do not reflect well on the nation. I only hope that they can be redeemed.

Absolutey 2besure, the Great Spirit recognizes kindness and those with good hearts. I love the people of my country, but there is a lot of hubris and sanctimony, a lot of hate too. Anger towards helping a hurt people is a reflection of some people's need of entitlement and greed. Your passion in this article is guided.

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Pamela Lipscomb 8 years agofrom Charlotte, North Carolina

Me too Money Glitch! I hope Mr. Robinson, has thought about how he has hurt many with his words. I have at times made statements I wish I had not, but not with millions of people listening. To whom much is given, much is required.

Money Glitch 8 years agofrom Texas

Wow, hopefully somehow Mr. Robinson will take a look at this hub as well as others here. :) I think your hub falls up under that ole' saying of "be careful of pointing fingers at others, because when you do there are three fingers pointing back at you." This hub is very well written thanks for sharing your insight. :)

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Pamela Lipscomb 8 years agofrom Charlotte, North Carolina

I agree,we are arrogant sinful and filled with pride. But God will have the last say.

Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. (even the United States!)

Allen Werner 8 years agofrom West Allis

2besure, I loved this hub. It is exactly what people need to hear. America has stood under a cloud of elitism and entitlement for so long - and christened it holy, few take the time to look and see all the treachery and evil done around the world in its name, in the past and in the current times. America says it is fighting terrorism when to the rest of the world, America is considered a leading terrorist state. The hypocrisy is galling and apparent for anyone willing to look truthfully upon it. Great hub - defintely one of the best I have read. Peace.

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Pamela Lipscomb 8 years agofrom Charlotte, North Carolina

"We saw it ourselves during the Revolutionary War. England tried shoving their positions down our throat and we rebelled. Unfortunately, we as a nation don't see the reverse, do we?"

It is our pride and arrogance that makes us believe we are always right.

Unchained Grace 8 years agofrom Baltimore, MD

2besure, for your sons to know the Lord while involved in this issue will be of unprecedented benefit to them. It is times just like this where Satan can do serious damage to you. I used Nam only as an example of that which we have become involved in with an everpresent agenda of instituting "Martial Law by Force" wherein we force our positions down someone else's throat. If there were ever a cause for a national rebellion against another, that is just cause.

We saw it ourselves during the Revolutionary War. England tried shoving their positions down our throat and we rebelled. Unfortunately, we as a nation don't see the reverse, do we?

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Pamela Lipscomb 8 years agofrom Charlotte, North Carolina

Judah's Daughter, you are right. We have a great responsibility to stand in the gab in behalf of this nation. That is why I love 2Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

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Pamela Lipscomb 8 years agofrom Charlotte, North Carolina

yenajeon, your point is very well taken. Haiti was set up not to succeed when she first won her independence. A new nation needs the support of many to succeed. I have heard so many stores of people being pulled out of the rubble praising God and singing. They are amazing people.

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Pamela Lipscomb 8 years agofrom Charlotte, North Carolina

Unchained Grace, I know of some of the terrible things that were done in Viet Nam. My Deceased husband was a vet and told me some of it. It was the nature of the war and the propaganda tried to make them feel that the Vietnamese people were less than human. Sound familiar? America as a nation has a lot to atone fore. Now my son is a soldier and has son has been to both Afghanistan and Iraq. My main desire or him is to know the Lord.

Unchained Grace 8 years agofrom Baltimore, MD

Regardless of his personal agenda or beliefs, he was dead wrong to use his position with the 700 Club to substantiate his unprecedented slander upon Haiti. The US is in no position to point fingers at anyone. Consider the references to the "Great Whore" in Revelation. It is what we have become.

As a Vietnam Vet, I can tell you flat out things were done to innocents in the name of what? Meddling in the business of a country who didn't want us there in the first place. Today, North and South Vietnam is no different that before we got there. I've been back since.

In the beginning, this country was founded upon Biblical principles and now? It's a whole different ballgame with a whole new set of misguided priorities.

We waste billions in the MiddleEast fighting against an inevitable prophesy. Nothing we do over there will change a thing. It's already been prophesied. We've been linked to Israel since it became a nationstate in or around 1945. Since then, we've had their back right down the line regardless. Our own CIA and Israeli Mossad have been running joint operations and parallel programs.

We were once a nation with formidable allies many of which are now dropping like flies. Refer back to the scriptures involving the "Great Whore" in Revelation. Make the comparisons. We do not and have not learned from our own mistakes.

Great Hub, but the truth is out there when and if someone chooses to sidestep their own political agenda and check history.

Judah's Daughter 8 years agofrom Roseville, CA

I read an article that initially, Haiti had made a pact with the devil and was heavily into Voodoo, etc. However, Christian Haitians overturned that curse and now meet for prayer at the very place the devil was once worshiped. This happened prior to this horrible earthquake crisis! Throughout all this devastation, they are seeing the love and provision of God coming to them to heal them. All things do work together for good, amen.

We have a multitude of wicked leaders in this nation, and wickedness that's been practiced for generations. However, we also have a remnant of powerful, believing Christians who are on their knees before God. Even Sodom and Gomorrah would have been spared, if only 10 were found as "righteous". When the day comes that so few are left in America, LOOK OUT.

Jesus is coming soon and His righteous judgment will be poured out on the wicked ~ may as many as will receive Him repent NOW. Blessings, sister!

yenajeon 8 years agofrom California

You're absolutely right 2besure. The only reason Haiti has been so 'cursed' is because of other nations. When Haiti became the first black nation of ex-slaves who overthrew their white masters, other nations that still held onto slavery are the ones that have affected Haiti's bad economy. Its sad how many uneducated opinions there are out there.