NY Legal 50 Round AR-15 Magazine, New from FAB Defense

The concept is solid and well established on Ruger 10/22 magazines: couple a whole bunch of them together at the floorplate and rotate the contraption when the mag runs dry. But FAB Defense took things a step further, gluing five 10-round magazines to a central spoke to create a New York-legal 50-round arrangement. Well, as near as we can tell NY legal. I suppose you could do this with 30-round magazines as well, creating a 150-round hub and spoke contraption that would put Surefire’s MAG-100’s to shame. But that might be a little…less than ergonomic. Either way, God bless America and the ingenious bastards who live here. Retail price: $115 with mags included.

You’ve obviously never had a “target” shooting back at you, Don. The key is to not just hit the target, but to stop it so it can’t keep shooting. Unlike what you’ve seen in the movies, hitting a person with two bullets doesn’t automatically make them drop in place, lie on the ground, close their eyes, and die instantly (or fall off balconies or any of that other silliness). The only area of the body where a bullet will instantaneously turn someone into a rag doll incapable of firing another round is about the size of a peach pit…and you aren’t going to hit it in two shots if they’re zig-zagging and shooting at you except perhaps by dumb luck.

I have photos from Vietnam, a guy with a backpack of explosives, it took more than a 20 round magazine to get him stopped before he was in range.
(Yeah he was hopped up on drugs, but you get the idea….)

Ever hear of the LA riots? Mobs of people looting & killing.
Or more recently Katrina, again mobs of people looting & killing.
Ever hear of the Battle of Athens?

There have been a lot of situations where people needed firepower to defend themselves.

Keep sitting on the couch Don!! I sincerely hope you do not own a firearm…as you would be dangerous to others around you! It is obvious you know nothing about what you speak. You must be a Liberal Politician!

Don have you ever been in a shoot out? Sounds like the answer is no. A shoot out is NOT like shooting at a paper target that stays in one place. I suggest you learn about adrenalin rush for starters. Also it’s not about just hitting your target. It’s about stopping the threat. The perp has an adrenalin rush going too. No telling what it will take to end the threat.

Yeah, I’d say the problem here is right in the title of this post where it is referred to as a magazine. Singular. You only get around the 10-round magazine law if this thing legally counts as multiple, 10-round magazines. If it’s a single “magazine” now, even if made from multiple, 10-round mags, then I don’t think any “loophole” has been exploited.

I think I’ve seen 40 rounders so why stop at 150, go for the whole 200. Or make it fit the 60 round mags that go to 4 columns and get 300 rounds. No, I don’t want to carry it, but for point defense it might just work.

If you meant to fire only from prone then sure. I don’t know what you’d hit as you’d be sitting in a crater trying to aim from the bottom of a hole but it certainly could be done. It’d be a fun hernia story for sure.

Seems like if they re-resign the floorplates so that the mags snap into place on the hub and each can be separately removed this could be a winner. No way New York could call it a 50 round mag when all it would be is a fastening device to hold five 10 round mags.

It’s pretty sad when you realize that two standard capacity 30 round magazines taped together (with one facing “up” and the other facing “down”) is much more practical, less expensive, and actually contains 10 more rounds that this thing.

Note: I am not knocking this 50 round magazine, only the law in New York and other states with their silly and arbitrary limits.

That is why I suggested it, mainly to prevent debris (and prone shooting) from ruining your mag. Also to make it easier to switch since you dont have to rotate it. You just take it out and insert it a couple of inches in the other direction.

But that is the problem with this contraption, if you try to shot from prone…or trip…or try to use it as a tripod you will get dirt in it. I would rather just carry the 5 mags and get good at reloading.

It is more about getting in the face of the anti-gun politicians. The double magazine coupler OBM (Obama’s Magazine Coupler) that works with the same magazines is more practical, as it configures two magazines in the same shape and size as one 30 round mag.

With AR mags, isn’t it actually better to have both facing up, and a coupler that spaces them out just far enough that you can insert one in the mag well? That way, you don’t have to turn the whole contraption around when reloading, just pull it down, sideways then back up. And Magpul sells just such a coupler for PMAGs – and FAB guys sell some generic ones.

You’re supposed to be the captain of your own ship. Not to put too fine a point on it, but when you live under spreading tyranny, it’s time to step up, maybe, and say, “it’s time for us to leave; we’re going while the gettin’s good! Now who’s with me?”

That or stand up and push back like they are doing in CO. Did you see the photos of the gun registration lines in CT? What could have happened if they all just said, “No way!” and no one showed up to register their guns?

And just because our state is run by morons doesn’t make all of us that are stuck here the morons. I actually took offense to that, as sometimes we have to play the hand we are dealt. Personally if I were to pack up the kids and leave state I would never see my daughter again, and is that worth it when all we have to do is not comply? Think I’m registering anything?!?! Lmao yeah right

My family comes first, period. Is it worth disowning a child just to have bigger mags? I think not. Everyone’s situation is different, but I’m not overly concerned with a law that is unconstitutional anyway lol. F em

And what will happen in the liberal states when ALL the conservatives leave, and there is no one to stand against them? These states don’t only affect themselves, they influence the rest of the country.

They will have a tax deficit, for one thing. People are allowed to walk away from situations they correctly perceive as unwinnable. Their energies may be better spent elsewhere.

I have never suggested that anyone leave the country, based upon the same premises. Sometimes one has to do what one has to do. There is a final battle to be fought, but some places are already not advantageous places from which to stage the battle.

If you are suggesting they lack courage because they relocated, I think you are wrong about that.

This star thing is a gag. . .its too bulky for practical use. How the hell are you going to carry that monstrosity? Already available devices that hold limited capacity magazines side-to-side or up-and-down (including the “mag wedge”) effectively do the same thing, only better.

On living in NY, while I wouldn’t wish that on anyone (including my relatives who do live there), in this economy, if that’s where your job is you may well be stuck. Ridiculously high taxes and unconstitutional gun laws are still (marginally) better than unemployment, right?

Just worth mentioning (again) that for most full sized modern centerfire semi-automatic handguns, the REDUCED capacity magazines hold 10 rounds, and there is literally NO SUCH THING as a 7 round magazine. So in practice, laws that ban magazines that hold more than 7 rounds effectively prohibit modern repeating centerfire service pistols.

This thing is too impractical, with its hard edges that can catch on everything.

As for the 7 round law there, I have no problem with my Colt 1911. she may not be as accurate as most modern versions but I know that she will get the job done, having done so for my grandfather in WWII for whatever soldier held her during WWI.

This thing is VERY practical for its intended purpose. It is the most effective ban-state-legal magazine system for inflicting heart attacks, drooling, and incomprehensible blithering in anti-gun politicians.

If this was done with 30 rounders, it would weigh a whole lot. My “F the Antis” rig is a pair of PMAG 40s, both with the Taccom +5 floorplate, coupled with a maglink. 90 rounds on demand. It makes for a heavy setup. The company should make a 2, 3 and 4 sided version of the central hub to go along with the 5, so you can choose how many mags to link in such a way. If I were in a state with a 20 round capacity law, 3 or 4 20s linked would be great. 2 20s would be about the same size as the existing PMAG 40, and be rather practical.

My favorite mags to use are PMAG 20s, personally. One box of ammo, one mag. Does not cause problems shooting from prone and allows you to stay on the trigger for a decent amount of time. It makes sense to me at the range. That said, if I were running into a firefight, I’d want all the ammo in the world.