]]>By: JimboBillyBob Justicehttp://www.gamefront.com/why-electronic-arts-makes-me-so-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-225534
JimboBillyBob JusticeTue, 03 Jan 2012 16:26:29 +0000http://www.gamefront.com/?p=144702#comment-225534@Gerilox
Damn you Aussies really get the $h!t end of the stick.
Delayed release dates
Higher initial cost
Laggy connections to MMO servers in the US or Europe.@Gerilox
Damn you Aussies really get the $h!t end of the stick.
Delayed release dates
Higher initial cost
Laggy connections to MMO servers in the US or Europe.
]]>By: Gericloxhttp://www.gamefront.com/why-electronic-arts-makes-me-so-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-220213
GericloxWed, 28 Dec 2011 15:51:37 +0000http://www.gamefront.com/?p=144702#comment-220213ONLY $60 for a game? Try forking out $110 for a new release AAA title like we do in Australia. It sucks big time, I scored BF3 for $70 on sale...ONLY $60 for a game? Try forking out $110 for a new release AAA title like we do in Australia. It sucks big time, I scored BF3 for $70 on sale…
]]>By: G.A.R.B.A.G.E.http://www.gamefront.com/why-electronic-arts-makes-me-so-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-218193
G.A.R.B.A.G.E.Fri, 23 Dec 2011 16:04:09 +0000http://www.gamefront.com/?p=144702#comment-218193@ Shikaka, Yes I find that that other digital retailers are reasonable competitors to Steam regarding the pricing, sales etc. I've bought games from many retailers in that list above. Just not EA games.
Where it becomes unfair advantage with Steam, STEAMWORKS, theres no competition regardless of price, if the game that is bought at say, Amazon, D2D, GamersGate or other, and that game still requires you to use Steam for the DRM. But that scheme is better than ORIGIN imo.
"So there are things you don’t agree with. Look further into them and try to understand why they are as they are."
I think we already know why.
Bad studio acquisition and management practices over the years?
Bad treatment of employees and overtime lawsuits in the past?
Bad game quality. (and running franchies like MOH in to the ground? imo)
Exclusive EA Sports rights deals?
Breaking Anti-trust laws?
Shady ORIGIN EULA agreements and its piss poor DRM scheme?
Banning people from their paid games? (for as little as posting youtube BF3 game play with cursing, when the game curses itself?)
Sexism and ageism in their advertising?
They are, because EA are a truly shit company when looking into further.
Or is it’s clearly just silly technical oversights born of the monumental task of unifying their system and a solution is just taking a long, long, long, long, long, time to run through the bureaucratic chain of command of a massive multinational shit company?@ Shikaka, Yes I find that that other digital retailers are reasonable competitors to Steam regarding the pricing, sales etc. I’ve bought games from many retailers in that list above. Just not EA games.

Where it becomes unfair advantage with Steam, STEAMWORKS, theres no competition regardless of price, if the game that is bought at say, Amazon, D2D, GamersGate or other, and that game still requires you to use Steam for the DRM. But that scheme is better than ORIGIN imo.

“So there are things you don’t agree with. Look further into them and try to understand why they are as they are.”

I think we already know why.
Bad studio acquisition and management practices over the years?
Bad treatment of employees and overtime lawsuits in the past?
Bad game quality. (and running franchies like MOH in to the ground? imo)
Exclusive EA Sports rights deals?
Breaking Anti-trust laws?
Shady ORIGIN EULA agreements and its piss poor DRM scheme?
Banning people from their paid games? (for as little as posting youtube BF3 game play with cursing, when the game curses itself?)
Sexism and ageism in their advertising?

They are, because EA are a truly company when looking into further.

Or is it’s clearly just silly technical oversights born of the monumental task of unifying their system and a solution is just taking a long, long, long, long, long, time to run through the bureaucratic chain of command of a massive multinational company?

]]>By: Brandon J. Clarkhttp://www.gamefront.com/why-electronic-arts-makes-me-so-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-218188
Brandon J. ClarkFri, 23 Dec 2011 15:33:52 +0000http://www.gamefront.com/?p=144702#comment-218188@Shikaka - I know it sucks to admit it, but EA's Origin IS pointless. You either bought into it without checking public opinion and now you're pissed because people hate it or you work for EA in some respect.
I'm guessing it's the former. You blindly bought into Origin because you just had to have BF3 and now that people are coming up with good reason to hate it you're pissed because in your mind it makes you seem less smart about the video game industry.
Relax, if you bought games through Origin you're like many others. In fact, there are probably MUCH less people who realize how crappy and evil it is and refuse to buy from it.
Wait, that's going to sound elitist and then you'll REALLY have a complex!@Shikaka – I know it sucks to admit it, but EA’s Origin IS pointless. You either bought into it without checking public opinion and now you’re pissed because people hate it or you work for EA in some respect.

I’m guessing it’s the former. You blindly bought into Origin because you just had to have BF3 and now that people are coming up with good reason to hate it you’re pissed because in your mind it makes you seem less smart about the video game industry.

Relax, if you bought games through Origin you’re like many others. In fact, there are probably MUCH less people who realize how crappy and evil it is and refuse to buy from it.

Wait, that’s going to sound elitist and then you’ll REALLY have a complex!

]]>By: Icyicyhttp://www.gamefront.com/why-electronic-arts-makes-me-so-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-218138
IcyicyFri, 23 Dec 2011 12:18:17 +0000http://www.gamefront.com/?p=144702#comment-218138Actually the reason most people hate Origin but don't mind Battle.net is because EA is notorious for bundling spyware with their games (Origin being spyware as well) and also notorious for shutting down online services in a rush.
The reason every gamer hates EA with a passion is not because of "PR misshaps". The only "PR misshap" is the fact that EA hasn't been able to change the overwhelmingly negative opinion everyone has against them using paid articles like they usually do (see the recent paid article against Zynga of all companies that TechCrunch founder discovered).
The reason why everyone has a negative opinion on EA is because they are a truly evil company that is destroying developer after developer, franchise after franchise, while turning the gaming industry into an even worse place day by day.
And no PR can fix that.Actually the reason most people hate Origin but don’t mind Battle.net is because EA is notorious for bundling spyware with their games (Origin being spyware as well) and also notorious for shutting down online services in a rush.

The reason every gamer hates EA with a passion is not because of “PR misshaps”. The only “PR misshap” is the fact that EA hasn’t been able to change the overwhelmingly negative opinion everyone has against them using paid articles like they usually do (see the recent paid article against Zynga of all companies that TechCrunch founder discovered).
The reason why everyone has a negative opinion on EA is because they are a truly evil company that is destroying developer after developer, franchise after franchise, while turning the gaming industry into an even worse place day by day.

And no PR can fix that.

]]>By: Shikakahttp://www.gamefront.com/why-electronic-arts-makes-me-so-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-218022
ShikakaFri, 23 Dec 2011 06:37:55 +0000http://www.gamefront.com/?p=144702#comment-218022@G.A.R.B.A.G.E: Kidding yourself if you think any of them is a reasonable competitor to Steam. They're either not in the same league or they're not in the same market.
Most of the people I converse with that hate on Origin are the same people that hated the hell out of Steam in its early days. Hilariously hypocritically most of these people are also perfectly fine with StarCraft 2 and Diablo 3 requiring battle.net.
EA's problem at the moment doesn't lie in their general business direction, it's a series of PR misshaps that they just haven't made a big enough push to offer repartition for.
Do you think people are losing access to their Origin games because they were banned from the EA forums is an actual concious business decision? Not way in hell. There is no reason that any business-minded person would possible think that's a good idea and pursue that course intentionally.
It's clearly just a silly technical oversight born of the monumental task of unifying their login systems and a solution is just taking a long time to run through the bureaucratic chain of command of a massive multinational company.
I'm not a one-eyed EA supporter. I don't think they're the best publisher out there and I'm happy to acknowledge that there's plenty of areas where they are doing things wrong, but nothing in this article hits those marks. It's just misguided keyboard warrior ventilation and doesn't get to the heart of the issues.
So there are things you don't agree with. Look further into them and try to understand why they are as they are.@G.A.R.B.A.G.E: Kidding yourself if you think any of them is a reasonable competitor to Steam. They’re either not in the same league or they’re not in the same market.

Most of the people I converse with that hate on Origin are the same people that hated the hell out of Steam in its early days. Hilariously hypocritically most of these people are also perfectly fine with StarCraft 2 and Diablo 3 requiring battle.net.

EA’s problem at the moment doesn’t lie in their general business direction, it’s a series of PR misshaps that they just haven’t made a big enough push to offer repartition for.

Do you think people are losing access to their Origin games because they were banned from the EA forums is an actual concious business decision? Not way in hell. There is no reason that any business-minded person would possible think that’s a good idea and pursue that course intentionally.

It’s clearly just a silly technical oversight born of the monumental task of unifying their login systems and a solution is just taking a long time to run through the bureaucratic chain of command of a massive multinational company.

I’m not a one-eyed EA supporter. I don’t think they’re the best publisher out there and I’m happy to acknowledge that there’s plenty of areas where they are doing things wrong, but nothing in this article hits those marks. It’s just misguided keyboard warrior ventilation and doesn’t get to the heart of the issues.

So there are things you don’t agree with. Look further into them and try to understand why they are as they are.

]]>By: OverEZhttp://www.gamefront.com/why-electronic-arts-makes-me-so-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-218002
OverEZFri, 23 Dec 2011 05:54:14 +0000http://www.gamefront.com/?p=144702#comment-218002My thoughts exactly. EA used to be something special that made great products. Now it is clear they just see their customers as mindless walking wallets with no regard for taste but still their gaze is that of distrust. EA has lost its way and seems to be regressing into immaturity. I would like to think that if Riccitiello were fired things would get better but I have a feeling EA is comfortable in their dickish ways and it would take more to get the company to wake up.My thoughts exactly. EA used to be something special that made great products. Now it is clear they just see their customers as mindless walking wallets with no regard for taste but still their gaze is that of distrust. EA has lost its way and seems to be regressing into immaturity. I would like to think that if Riccitiello were fired things would get better but I have a feeling EA is comfortable in their ish ways and it would take more to get the company to wake up.
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G.A.R.B.A.G.E.Fri, 23 Dec 2011 03:37:51 +0000http://www.gamefront.com/?p=144702#comment-217943@ Shikaka, open your eyes, there is plenty of Digital distribution competition for Steam.
Many times these places even sell EA titles cheaper than ORIGINS own web store dose. ORIGIN is a FAIL excuse for digital sales competition.
ORIGIN is more about control of their IP, user data collection, no more, no less.
http://www.deals4downloads.com/
Amazon
Beamdog
Direct2Drive/GameFly
DotEmu
EA Origin
GamersGate
GMG
GOG
Impulse/GameStop
Mac App Store
Steam (1530)
Desura
DLGamer
GameAgent
Gametap
Get Games
Mac Game Store
Matrix Games
Microsoft Marketplace
Microsoft Xbox Live
Sony PSN
Strategy First
Onlive
@ Jim Sterling, GG voicing your discontent, while still advertising for EA with that HUGE back and silver trademarked logo.@ Shikaka, open your eyes, there is plenty of Digital distribution competition for Steam.
Many times these places even sell EA titles cheaper than ORIGINS own web store dose. ORIGIN is a FAIL excuse for digital sales competition.
ORIGIN is more about control of their IP, user data collection, no more, no less.

@ Jim Sterling, GG voicing your discontent, while still advertising for EA with that HUGE back and silver trademarked logo.

]]>By: PAL-18http://www.gamefront.com/why-electronic-arts-makes-me-so-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-217936
PAL-18Fri, 23 Dec 2011 03:24:35 +0000http://www.gamefront.com/?p=144702#comment-217936EA is like a parasite. They swallow up other beings and then infect the crap out of them turning them into a morphed monster that's barely a shadow of what it was before it was infected.EA is like a parasite. They swallow up other beings and then infect the crap out of them turning them into a morphed monster that’s barely a shadow of what it was before it was infected.
]]>By: PAL-18http://www.gamefront.com/why-electronic-arts-makes-me-so-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-217935
PAL-18Fri, 23 Dec 2011 03:23:20 +0000http://www.gamefront.com/?p=144702#comment-217935Dont forget about Maxis ... After they bought them they totally turned the entire franchise into a joke with "The Sims # ___ Pack".Dont forget about Maxis … After they bought them they totally turned the entire franchise into a joke with “The Sims # ___ Pack”.
]]>By: JDhttp://www.gamefront.com/why-electronic-arts-makes-me-so-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-217854
JDFri, 23 Dec 2011 00:26:25 +0000http://www.gamefront.com/?p=144702#comment-217854EA has been the scum for longer than that, starting before 2000 killing BUllfrog, Westwood and others. I remember fondly watching the rolling shapes logo of EA when they were good, now I won't even buy EA games nevermind things that require that Origin nonsense.
Now they're the bane of the industry and literally to many studios, milking everything they have while raping every customer possible.
EA is soulless no longer cares about anything but controll=money, just look at how they're supporting SOPA as a nice way to round off 2011.EA has been the scum for longer than that, starting before 2000 killing BUllfrog, Westwood and others. I remember fondly watching the rolling shapes logo of EA when they were good, now I won’t even buy EA games nevermind things that require that Origin nonsense.

Now they’re the bane of the industry and literally to many studios, milking everything they have while raping every customer possible.

EA is soulless no longer cares about anything but controll=money, just look at how they’re supporting SOPA as a nice way to round off 2011.

]]>By: Shikakahttp://www.gamefront.com/why-electronic-arts-makes-me-so-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-217852
ShikakaFri, 23 Dec 2011 00:19:09 +0000http://www.gamefront.com/?p=144702#comment-217852What a load of utterly misguided and emotionally clouded vitriol. Origin is pointless? Why? Because you're hooked on Steam and don't want to have to register new accounts on other services any more?
Sure, Valve and Steam are great as long as they're still considered independent and acting benevolent, but as consumers we shouldn't have blind faith on that lasting forever.
The digital distribution space NEEDS competition and Origin is a reasonable start to that.
The "vile" online pass initiative is a response to the cannibalistic practices of brick and mortar stores selling second hand games at new prices.
I do agree on criticizing their surge into freemium games, as they're all built on unethical adiction-preying business model, but that's about it.
Despite a couple of lacklustre outputs (Dragon Age 2 and Need for Speed: The Run), The fact of the matter is that EA have had a pretty damn stellar line-up of well-polished titles in their stable this year -- more substantial than any of their competitors -- so they must be doing _something_ right.
Seriously, name another publisher that even comes close to the quantity of well-received games versus failures as EA this year (regardless of what you thought of those games personally)? You can't.What a load of utterly misguided and emotionally clouded vitriol. Origin is pointless? Why? Because you’re hooked on Steam and don’t want to have to register new accounts on other services any more?

Sure, Valve and Steam are great as long as they’re still considered independent and acting benevolent, but as consumers we shouldn’t have blind faith on that lasting forever.

The digital distribution space NEEDS competition and Origin is a reasonable start to that.

The “vile” online pass initiative is a response to the cannibalistic practices of brick and mortar stores selling second hand games at new prices.

I do agree on criticizing their surge into freemium games, as they’re all built on unethical adiction-preying business model, but that’s about it.

Despite a couple of lacklustre outputs (Dragon Age 2 and Need for Speed: The Run), The fact of the matter is that EA have had a pretty damn stellar line-up of well-polished titles in their stable this year — more substantial than any of their competitors — so they must be doing _something_ right.

Seriously, name another publisher that even comes close to the quantity of well-received games versus failures as EA this year (regardless of what you thought of those games personally)? You can’t.

]]>By: TheEggplanthttp://www.gamefront.com/why-electronic-arts-makes-me-so-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-217848
TheEggplantFri, 23 Dec 2011 00:06:57 +0000http://www.gamefront.com/?p=144702#comment-217848What upsets me more is EA never stopped screwing over PC gamers. From shutting down servers, to dumbing down franchise releases, to cutting off the sports games because modders were doing a better job. When ever this was mentioned though people who game primarily on console simply said "LoL, PC gaming." Hey thanks for the support now you know how much having things taken away hurts. This is why the widget manufacturers will forever be able to do what they do, because there is no solidarity.
@Jeremy
EA's GoG releases have been hobbled. Most don't include the expansion packs,and older ones are having problems just working.What upsets me more is EA never stopped screwing over PC gamers. From shutting down servers, to dumbing down franchise releases, to cutting off the sports games because modders were doing a better job. When ever this was mentioned though people who game primarily on console simply said “LoL, PC gaming.” Hey thanks for the support now you know how much having things taken away hurts. This is why the widget manufacturers will forever be able to do what they do, because there is no solidarity.
@Jeremy
EA’s GoG releases have been hobbled. Most don’t include the expansion packs,and older ones are having problems just working.
]]>By: Gravygamerhttp://www.gamefront.com/why-electronic-arts-makes-me-so-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-217847
GravygamerFri, 23 Dec 2011 00:04:39 +0000http://www.gamefront.com/?p=144702#comment-217847Frickin' EA. I tell you, they are in need of a good ass-whippin'. I figure we can go wait behind their car, and when they come out from Dairy Queen we can jump them, give them the wedgie of their flipping lives, then smash their face into the ice cream cake they just bought.
Hopefully that cake wasn't meant for us, but I'm willing to take the chance.Frickin’ EA. I tell you, they are in need of a good ass-whippin’. I figure we can go wait behind their car, and when they come out from Dairy Queen we can jump them, give them the wedgie of their flipping lives, then smash their face into the ice cream cake they just bought.

Hopefully that cake wasn’t meant for us, but I’m willing to take the chance.