<quoted text>Oh, please. I doubt anyone was even asked. I don't believe LE would have considered anything sinister enough about a group of carolers to warrant a full scale investigation. LOL

I still say it was strange to have people come after Christmas was overwith. Presents were all unwrapped, everyone was DONE with Christmas. I think these carolers should have been looked into. Especially since no one seems to know where they came from and why they only went to the White's house.

<quoted text>I still say it was strange to have people come after Christmas was overwith. Presents were all unwrapped, everyone was DONE with Christmas. I think these carolers should have been looked into. Especially since no one seems to know where they came from and why they only went to the White's house.

<quoted text>How do you know they only went to the Whites' house, Biz?A lot of people celebrate Christmas until New Year's Day.

I did read about these carolers in one newspaper article from the Boulder area and someone had reported that no one else in the neighborhood recalled seeing Christmas Carolers at their house. I happen to be in the party business. Never heard of anyone celebrating or having a Christmas party AFTER Christmas morning. True, most keep their lights up til around NYE but for the most part after presents are unwrapped, I can't recall one Santa Claus, one group of Christmas carolers, or one "Christmas Party". For the most part adults are just happy to have it all over with and take a deep breath.

<quoted text>I did read about these carolers in one newspaper article from the Boulder area and someone had reported that no one else in the neighborhood recalled seeing Christmas Carolers at their house.I happen to be in the party business. Never heard of anyone celebrating or having a Christmas party AFTER Christmas morning. True, most keep their lights up til around NYE but for the most part after presents are unwrapped, I can't recall one Santa Claus, one group of Christmas carolers, or one "Christmas Party". For the most part adults are just happy to have it all over with and take a deep breath.

It's a little unusual to have carolers come around on Christmas evening, but I don't think it's unheard of. I've had carolers come to my house on Christmas evening. Not often, granted, but it has happened.

What nefarious purpose do you think they were attempting to carry out?

<quoted text>It's a little unusual to have carolers come around on Christmas evening, but I don't think it's unheard of. I've had carolers come to my house on Christmas evening. Not often, granted, but it has happened.What nefarious purpose do you think they were attempting to carry out?

Awww It's almost as crazy sounding as Santa did it, isn't it? Yet there was a pedo ring in Boulder that sent children to sing Christmas carols in the White House. I do remember that these singers were referred to as "The Dickenson Carolers", meaning they would have been dressed in vintage costume, kind of in disguise. Being as it is a murder that remains unsolved after 13 years I just wonder if anyone checked them out. This murder was carefully planned. What if the carolers were there to detain the Ramseys or simply scope out the children. I admit it is a long shot but the info about the pedo ring with children singing christmas carols got my attention. If they were hired by the White's I wouldn't be so suspicious but I think what was said was that no one knew where they came from and they didn't appear to go to anyone else's house. Therefore I have to wonder if there was an ulterior motive to having them there.

<quoted text>Awww It's almost as crazy sounding as Santa did it, isn't it? Yet there was a pedo ring in Boulder that sent children to sing Christmas carols in the White House. I do remember that these singers were referred to as "The Dickenson Carolers", meaning they would have been dressed in vintage costume, kind of in disguise.Being as it is a murder that remains unsolved after 13 years I just wonder if anyone checked them out. This murder was carefully planned. What if the carolers were there to detain the Ramseys or simply scope out the children. I admit it is a long shot but the info about the pedo ring with children singing christmas carols got my attention. If they were hired by the White's I wouldn't be so suspicious but I think what was said was that no one knew where they came from and they didn't appear to go to anyone else's house. Therefore I have to wonder if there was an ulterior motive to having them there.

Well, Biz, if they really were sent by a pedophile ring, I think they should have been thoroughly checked out. I just know the Whites said they listened to some carolers who came around, but I've never read much else about them. It is bizarre. The whole case is bizarre.

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I believe the town where Johnny and others were held is Buena Vista, near to a rock formation called "Elephant Rock."

Biz wrote:

Aug 2006 Bound and GaggedThe latest piece in this whirlwind case was the arrival of two photos left on Noreen Gosch's porch. The two photos show a series of boys bound and gagged. Noreen says that she recognizes one of these boys as her son.1997 Johnny Visits Noreen?In 1997, Noreen Gosch, says Johnny himself paid her a visit. He stayed for an hour and told her what happened to her and why he could never come home or see her again because of the criminal activity he's now involved in. That sparked a book penned by Noreen called, "Why Johnny Can't Come Home."Mar 1993 "Jimmy" Gets InterviewedJimmy stepped forward and was interviewed on AMW. While he never showed his face, Jimmy gave a lot of solid evidence. He spoke of his friendship with Johnny, showed evidence of branding he tells was a punishment for the boys, and even gave a diary he kept of his horrible experience.1992 Johnny's Story Airs On AMW: "Jimmy Steps Forward"AMW aired the Johnny Gosch story and with the help of Paul Bonacci several composite sketches were drawn of the principals he says were involved in the alleged pedophilia ring. After the show aired, Noreen Gosch received a 14 page letter from a boy named "Jimmy" who said the same men who had abducted her son had abducted him and he told her that Johnny was still alive. Noreen said he knew personal details about her son that had never before been released and she believes him.1991 That summer a message was written in red nail polish on a bathroom wall of a Denver restaraunt: Johnny Gosch Was Here.Oct 1991 Noreen Gosch Meets Paul BonacciNoreen Gosch met Paul Bonacci face to face in an emotional conversation where she says that Bonacci told her things about her son that nobody else would know.1990 The "Smoking Gun" ExplodedInvestigator Gary Caradori who was investigating Paul Bonacci's claims for the Nebraska State Legislation, urgently phoned State Senator Loran Schmit from Chicago saying he had found "the smoking gun." On his plane flight to show the case cracking evidence, his plane exploded and everything was lost.

There were so many cults and pedophile groups in Colorado. I would like to see if anyone has any information to add to that of which I have already researched. Brotherhood of The White Temple-Sedalia ColoradoChildren of God with Zack Prendergast (also a reported pedophile who was amazingly nominated as Father of the Year)Tony Llamas GroupFat Cats Pedophile Group in DenverIlluminati/Monarch programNK Family Pedophile group with connections to the White Family

I'll add more as I remember them. I don't recall reading that any law enforcement agency checked out any of these groups except for NK...and I don't think that was ever completed either.

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