Why Putin Will Buckle Under Sanctions

999zxcv
China will have Russian backs when it comes to money they will do a deal for some American dollar debt they do not need the west as much as we like to
think they do how will we get men to the iss .

Russia have food/ water/oil in quantity make cars etc what else do they really need from us they cannot get from south america or one of the
satellite states

Off the top my head the expertise and replacement parts for their
petro chemical industry.

I would have to research just what they actually do need..

i bet our good friend Israel will help out just like the part's for the phantoms going to Iran

999zxcv
China will have Russian backs when it comes to money they will do a deal for some American dollar debt they do not need the west as much as we like to
think they do how will we get men to the iss .

Russia have food/ water/oil in quantity make cars etc what else do they really need from us they cannot get from south america or one of the
satellite states

Off the top my head the expertise and replacement parts for their
petro chemical industry.

I would have to research just what they actually do need..

i bet our good friend Israel will help out just like the part's for the phantoms going to Iran

Lets not even go there..... That's like bringing a spider
to a fly's tea party.

Some folks dont know all of the fine details of the changes that have happened over the last decade or 2... or how screwed up backward things are
currently... or how many resources Russia really has. the EU sure doesnt make it well known how really dependant on Russia they are.. thats for sure

Demeaning them wont show them whats changed or why Putin will do exactly what he wants to do. Maybe add some info about WHY you feel that way along
with the snark.

Germany gets about 50% of its gas from Russia and Germany rules/leads Europe and sanctions would probably hit Europe harder than it would Russia.
Sanctions will have no effect on Russia whatsoever.
Maybe discussion, diplomacy and the desire for peace will win out eventually, but sanctions and threats of aggression will only work to drive the
wedge further and heighten tensions.

I'm not sure that Russia has the human capital to do it. They are facing a crisis of manpower. Now, if they allowed the Chinese to expend some of
their useless young men doing the development work ... it might happen. The problem with that is what the Chinese would extract in return for
basically selling a large portion of their population into a lifetime of slavery. China may not value them because they have no real value, but you
better believe they'd sell them dear if it meant beefing up a competitor.

Russia has a population just over 140 million people. It's not our 300 million or China's 1.4 Billion...but that also means they don't have all the
extra demand on their internal supply and production which the US does.

How many people do they need to accomplish what? I think they have enough for their own interests.

Russian fertility rates have been falling for decades. They stood at 1.4 babies per woman in 2010, far below the 2.1 needed to naturally replenish the
population. Death rates, particularly among males between the ages of 25 and 45, spiked in the post-Soviet period and still remain considerably higher
than births. As a result, Russia’s population has been simultaneously contracting and aging. That’s a double-whammy that holds dire implications
for Putin’s hopes of returning Russia to the world’s center stage as a great power.

This also begs the question of how much military action Putin can create.

Russia is a Super Power in more ways than it's not. It's military is quite capable of slapping us all over Eastern Europe if we go there with some
half way snarky attitude that we're going to teach Russia a lesson through intimidation or pressure. Just as Russia would get stomped to mush if they
were on our side of the planet and playing hard games (and has been, each time they have tried) we are way out where the buses don't run for places
our foreign policy has any right to be. When we've successfully taken Ukraine from Russian influence, what is next? Reports of oppressed gays in
Russia as a pretext to have to assist with force there?

It isn't ending. We went to war in 2001 and it's just not ending. One nation after another. Russia hasn't been in continuous combat to various
levels in a dozen nations across 13+ years and two major wars. We have. Russia isn't the problem here. We are, right now.

We need to let that part of the world sort it's own hash for once and stay CLEAR out of what is not our business. Some of this dates back to times
before our nation was even a gleam in a British eye to imagine making colonies of.

Russia is a Super Power in more ways than it's not. It's military is quite capable of slapping us all over Eastern Europe if we go there with some
half way snarky attitude that we're going to teach Russia a lesson through intimidation or pressure. Just as Russia would get stomped to mush if they
were on our side of the planet and playing hard games (and has been, each time they have tried) we are way out where the buses don't run for places
our foreign policy has any right to be. When we've successfully taken Ukraine from Russian influence, what is next? Reports of oppressed gays in
Russia as a pretext to have to assist with force there?

It isn't ending. We went to war in 2001 and it's just not ending. One nation after another. Russia hasn't been in continuous combat to various
levels in a dozen nations across 13+ years and two major wars. We have. Russia isn't the problem here. We are, right now.

We need to let that part of the world sort it's own hash for once and stay CLEAR out of what is not our business. Some of this dates back to times
before our nation was even a gleam in a British eye to imagine making colonies of.

I'm not saying they can't, but if they are taking the long view, can they afford to? They have demographic problems.

The sanctions I don't think will effect it's trading relationship with China, which at the moment is Russia's largest economic friend and
partner.

So as long as that goes unimpeded, I highly doubt Russia will fold over these.

~Tenth

Here's another problem well two

China has invested in and turning to Turkmanistan in the west and Myanmar to South for its Gas needs

The infrastructure would take many years to even begin pumping from Russia

I'm more than sure should the gas in Europe be turned of the electric will go on, and there is the capacity, so yes Russia will fair the worst since
it has a resource based economy and Gazprom keeps it afloat, considering Russia has now lost well over 60 billion how do you think it might fair in
the next few years?

Then China's debt based economy riding on the biggest bubble the world has ever and will ever see goes bang when the US default and so does everybody
else, also killing of the rest of China's exports as nobody buys there junk, leaving china in its very own little hell on earth

Russia's economy will die when Gazprom has no customers To sell to, which will result in an equally impressive collapse and the head hunting of Putin
by his fellow Countrymen

All for Crimea ?

I doubt it..

But Russia and it's sympathiser can carry on throwing there toys out the pram for now I guess

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