Now I find something a strange here. The fourth instance cited claims to have thwarted Urban Attacks in the UK to have been carried out in
2004 using Explosives.

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't a group, supposedly/initially linked to AQ, carry out an Urban Attack in the UK using
Explosives- - - in 2005?! (July 07,2005 for those of us with short term memory loss)

So if our glorious President and his fine and courageous "intel boys" are so "on top" of those "evil terroists" that they could thwart something
in 2004, why couldn't they have "thwarted" the same type of attack, on the same target!! , with apparently the same methodolgy!, Just One Year
Later?

Maybe the "intel boys" were just too busy reviewing all the porn sites we naughty citizens were accessing?

Or maybe the White House claims are a bunch of hypped up hokum designed to shock, awe and most importantly Divert the public's attention away from
the "cancer" that is growing on our Nation.

I'll second that....it doesnt matter if Bush saved the world, people don tlike what he represents so a campaign of paranoia, outright lies start., I
think the majority of americans are like me, I dont care how he does it, just let me go about my life and make sure it dont happen again(9/11).

now if that means these terrorists or suspected terrorists are shipped off to camps in cuba or the eastern block.....I wont lose sleep over that.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I'm saying that my opinion is that those 'threats' ... were most likely fabricated by the authors to make it look like we're being protected.

So then ... I guess according to your outlook Clinton really did
'wag the dog' when he was in office. There really weren't threats
back then, and those dozen or so jetliners really weren't going to
be crashed into the Pacific Ocean, etc. etc.

So Clinton did a 'wag the dog'?
Lame duck G.W. is telling lies to get more power?

I guess that 9/11, the Cole bombing, and all the other terrorist
attacks were never planned and never happened, eh? Those
were also fabricated?

Well the sad thing is with all the provoking we have done across the globe - now when actual terrorists take a shot at us - it is only going to make
the Neo-Cons look correct after all - no matter how big or small the "attack" is.

Oh and it sure would have been embarrasing for Al-CIA-DUH if they had hit another building with a plane but had forgotten to put a few bombs in the
basement...

Surely the Administration doesn't think we will fall for that again...

Its not a partisan thing its a Govt. thing - the attem,pts at consolidation of power in the U.S. was an inevitability - but our founders have given us
tools, like Impeachment, to prevent it from going too far.

However the window of opportunity, like in pre-WWII Germany, will not be their forever.

As for the Cole bombing - sure was nice of the CIA to help Cole bombing mastermind Jamal al-Badawi get out on parole early:

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
All this shows is that the president can (with the help of his aides and training wheels) make up a good story to let out into the public to scare
them into acceptance of his little eavesdropping program, which he's being constantly hounded about by those few brave souls in Congress left with an
ounce of integrity.

That sounds like Hysterical Hillary....lol... so there is no terrorism ?? Its all a mind game form the Republicans ?
Ok, So i guess the REpublicans or maybe just Bush, payed the muslems nations to come together and sing "Death to Amercia, death to Israel", just for
fun? it really isn't true ... just an electorial tactic , huh ?

ok

These ppl attacked before, and its very possible they will attack again... is that a fear tactic ...NO... its just reality. 9/11 was planned under 8
years of clinton, and because noone cared to investigate the clues they had, it happened... and who better to blame... the guy that just arrived. of
course.

How exactly are these things "fear tactics" when you can see them with your own eyes...The Iranina leader came to the TV, and clearly said... " we
will not rest untill we blow you of the map"...how is that a Bush fear tactic...did Bush payd him to say that ?

It seem to me, that you are the one IN FEAR of opening your eyes to reality... so you'll just go around making excuses and trying to please ppl that
only want to see you dead.

If Bush is using fear tactics, how come I'm not affraid ? How come the majroty of the country (according to CNN poles) IS NOT affraid ?

You people make me laugh. Like this is some big game and things don't really go on that you don't know about. There is a reason the masses
aren’t privy to all the intelligence information that’s gathered. There's a reason why when the police have information regarding a killer they
don't just come out and say what intel they have. I can name a hand-full of terrorist bombings and/or incidents that have taken place in the last
10yrs, and you think that its just smoke and mirrors or that these are the only events that take place, that none of them are foiled? Give me a
friggn break!

Actually, that is exactly what I could say about those who
refuse to see that terrorism is real.

9/11 was a myth. The Cole was a myth. The Spain train
bombing was a myth. The bombing that killed all those
Aussies .... can't remember the name of the place ...
that was a myth too, eh?

Guess all those millions of Muslim rioters shouting death
to entire 'infidel' continents are a myth as well?

So, right back at you all, its okay if you want to hear no evil,
see no evil - but don't expect the rest of us to put our
heads in the sand.

Isn't it amazing ?? And they call themselves "Free Thinkers, not brianwahsed by the goverment, the ones that SEE the truth"...LOL...The truth is
speaking to theirs faces and they have their fingers in their ears singing " Ican't hera you..,.its all conspiracy..."

Fear makes people blind... and it up to US .. REAL FREE THINKERS

... and people that SEE The truth for what it is to guide them into relaity... but
it won't be easy, because fear will make them deny even whats right in front of them.

And..you know... blaming it on "mysterious" conspiracies is always easier than realize that there are millions of peolpe who wouldnt esiatae to
stone us all to death just for the simple fact that we do not follow theire eligion and their God... it is sad ... but it is true.

Most of Europe has been fighting with thsi problem for thousands of years.
The U.S.A. is farly new to this circus, and thats why ao many americans refuse to believ it, they lack the history of centuries of wars for the same
ol reason... "YOU MUST WORSHIP ALLAH" ...The USA is only 200 and a couple of years... too much of a young nation.... the history of the "old
Wolrd" is not funny, and if some ppl would take the time to study it, instead of just parotting liberal non-sense, they would see the TRUTH for what
it is... no need for conspiracies.

Originally posted by Alpha Grey
Total nonsense...Bush is just saying that to make us feel like he's actually protecting us......what a load of poo.....

[edit on 9-2-2006 by Alpha Grey]

Really... ?? well that must be a reason why up till today there havent been any more attacks on the SUA, wouldnt you think ?

Someone must be working well ? and really lets hope there aren't anymore attacks. Tho i do think the democratic and Ultra-liberal party would jump
of hapiness if there was another attack... unreal how they would gloat in human suffering to win some votes... which that waht they accuse the
REpublican party of doing...

The Heathrow Airport Plot: In 2003 the U.S. and several partners disrupted a plot to attack Heathrow Airport using hijacked commercial airliners. The
planning for this attack was undertaken by a major 9/11 operational figure.

I remember it was 2003 when there was a deployment of troops and tanks at Heathrow news.bbc.co.uk... - forgot about that
until now.

As for 7/7 and the failed attempt 2 weeks later last year, you can't stop all of them sadly. Who knows, maybe the ones they did stop were something
bigger as last year just seemed to be under everyone's radar.

Originally posted by Bobular
the bulk of our country is made up of stupid, clueless,
uneducated white trash.

If this is how you feel then perhaps you should move to
a country of more 'color' and one that is better educated?
... Mexico perhaps? One that isn't clueless and has a
better hold on 'reality'? Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan perhaps?

Two recent polls, a Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll and a New York Times/CBS News poll, indicate why Bush is getting away with impeachable offenses.
Half of the US population is incapable of acquiring, processing and understanding information.

I believe everything I read on Rense.

On one hand you all say that the Bush Administration is planning these attacks, keeping it under wraps. On
the other hand they are all morons, its just the rest of Americans are dumber than he is. Can we find a middle ground here? Can we stick with one
story? I honestly dont believe the average American is that naive. Most Americans understand reality and the fact that this world runs on the
premise of Chaos. Whatever can go wrong will. Does the average American base their lives around it though, no. If Bush's actoins are so
impeachable, why are there no lawyers all over this in Washington? Only 22 senators signing off on a bill for impeachment, doesnt that say anything
to you at all.

Originally posted by kojac
Show me these "millions of Muslem rioters shouting
death to entire 'infidel' continents".

Guess you haven't turned on the TV for the past week
or so eh? Fox, MSNBC, and even leftwing CNN have
all been showing the massive crowds around the world.
And yes ... some of the chants and signs have said to
wipe out all infidels ... all Danes .. all French ...
all ______ (fill in the blank with a group other than Muslim).

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