Didn't watch it today and I'm glad I didn't. I checked the picks on NFL.com.

I feel like as the draft progressed the picks got worse and worse. Star was awesome, Short was good, Kugbila was probably the worst pick, Klein was bad, and although I like Barner I think it was the wrong pick.

I really don't understand the Kugbila pick. There were much better players available. If it's just for competition, I think it's too early to draft for that.

This is a dumb argument, is Barrett jones a better football player right now? Probably yes. But there is a reason Barrett jones was a late 4th round pick. He has reached his ceiling. He will be a good back up guard and maybe go as high as a bottom half of the league starter. From what I read kugbila has tremendous upside, in two years he could be a pro bowl starter. People need to learn that there is a reason gm's are gm's and Mel kipper and mike mattock are on tv.

When did I bring up Barrett Jones?_________________
"There are many things given to us in this life for the wrong reasons. What we do with such blessings, that is the true test of a man." - Gannicus

And lets not forget about the existing NFC Powerhouses, San Fran, Seattle adding tons of talent. Minnesota added a ton of weapons.

Point is, everybody improved, some more than others, and I really feel like we improved the least in the division and perhaps in the bottom five league wide.

Dallas did worse than us, I can say that much.

Atlanta essentially did the same thing that we did.

Remember the when the Eagles formed the secondary that no one was going to be able to pass on? We have no idea how those new players are going to be in a new system. They could be great, but they could just as easily regress. And they still have a below average defensive line.

New Orleans did nothing of note.

And teams that were supposed to be good regress every season. One of those 3 other teams you mentioned could easily miss the playoffs.

One thing you never seem to consider is that the people who are already on our roster might, oh you know, actually improve? It's a wild concept I know, but young players generally improve, and we have a bunch of them on our roster. Cam should be improving in year 3. Keuchly now has a year under his belt. Hardy is just entering his prime. Johnson is consistently good. Silotolu will be better. Kalil will be back. LaFell will continue getting better. Etc. etc. etc.

We have a solid team. If you want to continue having a tantrum over late round picks that would most likely not see the field much anyways, go ahead, but it doesn't seem to be doing you much good so you might as well start to look at the positives._________________
Carolina Kitten - Sig God.

"Steve Smith's revival alongside quarterback Cam Newton is well-documented. But Smith turns 34 this month and Carolina has little depth at the wide receiver position beyond Brandon LaFell, an underwhelming target who makes better sense as a third option. The recently signed Ted Ginn and Domenik Hixon are patches. With a rare talent like Newton running the show, the Panthers' failure to surround him with more dynamic pass-catchers is baffling."

"Steve Smith's revival alongside quarterback Cam Newton is well-documented. But Smith turns 34 this month and Carolina has little depth at the wide receiver position beyond Brandon LaFell, an underwhelming target who makes better sense as a third option. The recently signed Ted Ginn and Domenik Hixon are patches. With a rare talent like Newton running the show, the Panthers' failure to surround him with more dynamic pass-catchers is baffling."

"Steve Smith's revival alongside quarterback Cam Newton is well-documented. But Smith turns 34 this month and Carolina has little depth at the wide receiver position beyond Brandon LaFell, an underwhelming target who makes better sense as a third option. The recently signed Ted Ginn and Domenik Hixon are patches. With a rare talent like Newton running the show, the Panthers' failure to surround him with more dynamic pass-catchers is baffling."

"Steve Smith's revival alongside quarterback Cam Newton is well-documented. But Smith turns 34 this month and Carolina has little depth at the wide receiver position beyond Brandon LaFell, an underwhelming target who makes better sense as a third option. The recently signed Ted Ginn and Domenik Hixon are patches. With a rare talent like Newton running the show, the Panthers' failure to surround him with more dynamic pass-catchers is baffling."

Analysis: This is a steal. Wow. The Panthers needed a passer, and they get one. This will work out well for the Panthers and Clausen. He will be better than Tebow. Grade: A+

We sure filled our needs that draft. And boy those experts sure were spot on in that one!

Just sayin.

Ohhhh so you're saying this year's second round pick, Kawann Short is a sure-fire, can't miss, already Elite NFL Player? And there's no way he could be the Clausen of the DT world?

Is that based on his questionable motor?

"Play-to-play effort is questionable; stands around to watch the play too often, especially when tired or playing against better talent."

So as long as the Offensive Lineman in the NFL aren't Better than the guys he played against in College, we're all set.

yeah he sounds like a guy I want on my team.

That's the exact opposite I am saying. I am saying that we have no idea how the people we drafted will perform, so you throwing your little temper tantrum is a waste of time.

We have no idea how this draft will pan out. Star or short could become a Ngata or a Glen Dorsey. The G could be the next Larry Allen, or another Hangartner. Stewart and Williams could get injured and Barner could rush for 2000 yards. No one knows.

We've all seen picks that we've loved bust (Dwayne Jarrett) and ones we hated be great (Cam). So reacting this strongly about picks, mostly in the later rounds is just ridiculous._________________
Carolina Kitten - Sig God.

"Steve Smith's revival alongside quarterback Cam Newton is well-documented. But Smith turns 34 this month and Carolina has little depth at the wide receiver position beyond Brandon LaFell, an underwhelming target who makes better sense as a third option. The recently signed Ted Ginn and Domenik Hixon are patches. With a rare talent like Newton running the show, the Panthers' failure to surround him with more dynamic pass-catchers is baffling."

Analysis: This is a steal. Wow. The Panthers needed a passer, and they get one. This will work out well for the Panthers and Clausen. He will be better than Tebow. Grade: A+

We sure filled our needs that draft. And boy those experts sure were spot on in that one!

Just sayin.

Ohhhh so you're saying this year's second round pick, Kawann Short is a sure-fire, can't miss, already Elite NFL Player? And there's no way he could be the Clausen of the DT world?

Is that based on his questionable motor?

"Play-to-play effort is questionable; stands around to watch the play too often, especially when tired or playing against better talent."

So as long as the Offensive Lineman in the NFL aren't Better than the guys he played against in College, we're all set.

yeah he sounds like a guy I want on my team.

That's the exact opposite I am saying. I am saying that we have no idea how the people we drafted will perform, so you throwing your little temper tantrum is a waste of time.

We have no idea how this draft will pan out. Star or short could become a Ngata or a Glen Dorsey. The G could be the next Larry Allen, or another Hangartner. Stewart and Williams could get injured and Barner could rush for 2000 yards. No one knows.

We've all seen picks that we've loved bust (Dwayne Jarrett) and ones we hated be great (Cam). So reacting this strongly about picks, mostly in the later rounds is just ridiculous.

"Steve Smith's revival alongside quarterback Cam Newton is well-documented. But Smith turns 34 this month and Carolina has little depth at the wide receiver position beyond Brandon LaFell, an underwhelming target who makes better sense as a third option. The recently signed Ted Ginn and Domenik Hixon are patches. With a rare talent like Newton running the show, the Panthers' failure to surround him with more dynamic pass-catchers is baffling."

We are using almost the exact same personnel on offense as we've had the past two years... where we averaged 23.8 pgg which is 11th in the NFL in Cam's two years (btw we've allowed the 8th most points in that same timespan).

And if you want to criticize the offense for something last season... wouldn't it be playcalling and the OL? Two things which will be different this season with Chud out and Kalil playing the whole year, which improves not only center, but right guard. I don't really see how Double Trouble, Smitty, Olsen, LaFell, and Tolbert are enough options for the time being._________________

"Steve Smith's revival alongside quarterback Cam Newton is well-documented. But Smith turns 34 this month and Carolina has little depth at the wide receiver position beyond Brandon LaFell, an underwhelming target who makes better sense as a third option. The recently signed Ted Ginn and Domenik Hixon are patches. With a rare talent like Newton running the show, the Panthers' failure to surround him with more dynamic pass-catchers is baffling."

Analysis: This is a steal. Wow. The Panthers needed a passer, and they get one. This will work out well for the Panthers and Clausen. He will be better than Tebow. Grade: A+

We sure filled our needs that draft. And boy those experts sure were spot on in that one!

Just sayin.

Ohhhh so you're saying this year's second round pick, Kawann Short is a sure-fire, can't miss, already Elite NFL Player? And there's no way he could be the Clausen of the DT world?

Is that based on his questionable motor?

"Play-to-play effort is questionable; stands around to watch the play too often, especially when tired or playing against better talent."

So as long as the Offensive Lineman in the NFL aren't Better than the guys he played against in College, we're all set.

yeah he sounds like a guy I want on my team.

That's the exact opposite I am saying. I am saying that we have no idea how the people we drafted will perform, so you throwing your little temper tantrum is a waste of time.

We have no idea how this draft will pan out. Star or short could become a Ngata or a Glen Dorsey. The G could be the next Larry Allen, or another Hangartner. Stewart and Williams could get injured and Barner could rush for 2000 yards. No one knows.

We've all seen picks that we've loved bust (Dwayne Jarrett) and ones we hated be great (Cam). So reacting this strongly about picks, mostly in the later rounds is just ridiculous.