Not too long ago (30 mins) I picked up a vl force loader for my cocker.It was only $30 so i thought, what the heck. But a basic overview of the loader, its pretty light, very wide. On my cocker i was a bit scared at first because the feedneck is fat and my feedneck on my trilogy is a wee bit smaller than the feedneck of the force. But i managed to squeeze it on there for a nice tight fit.It loads pretty fast, good for my cocker, but its LOUD! it keeps agitating so you can imagine it will be very noisy. But overall I say its a good loader for 30 bucks. Good for noobs to the sport.