Comments on: Officiating blunder mars Washington’s final drivehttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/02/officiating-blunder-mars-washingtons-final-drive/
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Mon, 02 Dec 2013 22:05:50 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2228386#comment-2980151Will there be any consequences from this for the refs to face just like it is for the players or will it be swept under the rug like it always is for the refs?
I have a feeling it’s for the latter.
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Mon, 02 Dec 2013 21:50:40 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2228386#comment-2980113The Redskins were definitely hosed on the mixup with the first down yardage, but let’s not lose sight of the fact that the third down play was a unforced dropped pass and the fourth down pass was cleanly stripped from Garcon. No referee mistakes there.

So, Redskin fans, cry away but you had the first down, TWICE, if your receivers take care of the ball.

Everyone is on Griffin’s back for having a bad year whereas the exact opposite is true for Luck. Griffin’s ‘bad year’ is better than Luck’s good year but no one talks about that. Atleast we can finally put this debate over which one is better to rest.

]]>By: dilligas61http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/02/officiating-blunder-mars-washingtons-final-drive/#comment-2979665
Mon, 02 Dec 2013 19:39:55 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2228386#comment-2979665And here I thought the replacement ref’s Larry, Moe n Curly were not in the league anymore. Seems like they have a hand in a lot of games this year.
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Mon, 02 Dec 2013 19:14:37 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2228386#comment-2979569bears0492 says: Dec 2, 2013 12:22 AM

Officials should most definitely be subject to fines and suspensions based on performance. How else can they be held accountable?

The Redskins got screwed on this one for sure. Giants and Rams fans everywhere are rejoicing at the awful officiating at the end of that game.
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Not really. I have been on the other side of such officiating. Only loser fans (Eagles, Skins, Dallas, Panthers, Patriots) rejoice with such. However, the Skins’ first score came after Griffin was stopped by Beason on 4th down. Giants ball. Skins instead go and score 6.

]]>By: tvguy22http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/02/officiating-blunder-mars-washingtons-final-drive/#comment-2979277
Mon, 02 Dec 2013 17:52:23 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2228386#comment-2979277Sounds logical to me. HTTR. LOL.
]]>By: wjw0006http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/02/officiating-blunder-mars-washingtons-final-drive/#comment-2979123
Mon, 02 Dec 2013 17:11:11 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2228386#comment-2979123I just cannot see how it had any effect on the outcome of the game at all. Was it an error? You bet and potentially a huge error had it had an effect on the outcome of the game.

I was at the game last night….remember, the Redskins had no timeouts. Even if there was no error do you really think they were going to do something other than pass the ball in that situation with it being under two minutes and no timeouts? They would have still passed the ball anyways. Also, the Redskins did ultimately convert the 4th down as Garcon was well past the line. But not for Garcon not holding onto the ball, the Redskins could have continued their drive.

Triplette also clearly signalled 3rd down and I saw this from section 203 which means that Shanahan and his son should have seen the head referee clearly signalling third down.

Furthermore, it was not close to being a first down. Had it been even close enough for a measurement, play would have been stopped for a measurement. This argument makes the least sense to me and Shanahan used this in his comments and alluded to the fact that it could have been a first down. He was only asking for a measurement in that case because his team had no timeouts left…..it was very clear that the ball was a yard if not more short of the mark to gain. We could all see that from section 203 so if Shanny could not see that from the field then maybe he needs his vision checked.

Ultimately the error had no impact on the outcome of the game and anyone saying that “it could” have is not based on fact. There are lots of what if’s in a football game and the NFL is lucky that this ended the way that it did instead of the error actually having an impact on the game…..ultimately a turnover ended this game, not an error by the officials

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Mon, 02 Dec 2013 16:58:31 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2228386#comment-2979081The NFL should do what the NCAA does. On a first down, stop the clock so the refs have time to move the chains.
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Mon, 02 Dec 2013 16:36:54 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2228386#comment-2979029fighting for the worst team in the league so the rams can get their pick
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Mon, 02 Dec 2013 16:34:27 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2228386#comment-2979022logicalvoiceseys says:
Dec 2, 2013 1:19 AM
Imagine if the replacement refs had done this last season how much flack they would have gotten…
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I can’t believe I’m saying this, but nice point. I do need to ask if you still think Pierre Garcon is top 5 receiver?
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Mon, 02 Dec 2013 16:13:18 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2228386#comment-29789454skins eliminated. fighting for the worst team in the league….congratulations!!!

if i were shanahan, i would have stood on the fifty yard line until they let us replay 3&1,, or start fresh on 2nd&10.

the referees have literally played too large a role in a few questionable wins this season.

]]>By: lawyermalloyhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/02/officiating-blunder-mars-washingtons-final-drive/#comment-2978909
Mon, 02 Dec 2013 16:01:02 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2228386#comment-2978909I suppose the officiating blunder caused the receiver to fumble the ball after getting the first down?
The mistake had ZERO to do with the Redskin’s loss;You guys really need to let this one go!
]]>By: whodeybackerhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/02/officiating-blunder-mars-washingtons-final-drive/#comment-2978879
Mon, 02 Dec 2013 15:48:57 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2228386#comment-2978879Saying its a moot point if Davis holds onto the ball is ridiculous. It justs covers up the blown call. Dang just get the calls right. Its a freakin stupid down and distance measurement. Simple stuff. Sad.
]]>By: eatitfanboyhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/02/officiating-blunder-mars-washingtons-final-drive/#comment-2978831
Mon, 02 Dec 2013 15:32:34 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2228386#comment-2978831Pierre Garcon and Fred Davis should be chipping in to buy new cars or at least Rolex watches for the refs. That blunder took the spotlight off of the fact that those two couldn’t catch a cold.

If Davis doesn’t drop that ball on third/first down, the whole conversation is different.

]]>By: kev86http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/02/officiating-blunder-mars-washingtons-final-drive/#comment-2978790
Mon, 02 Dec 2013 15:20:54 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2228386#comment-2978790The REDSKINS were ELIMINATED from the playoffs by the NEW YORK GIANTS.
]]>By: sactogaryhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/02/officiating-blunder-mars-washingtons-final-drive/#comment-2978779
Mon, 02 Dec 2013 15:17:57 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2228386#comment-2978779C’mon RG1, settle the strike and get rid of these replacement refs.
]]>By: skinsfan58http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/02/officiating-blunder-mars-washingtons-final-drive/#comment-2978662
Mon, 02 Dec 2013 14:37:26 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2228386#comment-2978662The Skins have found a way to kill themselves every game. I dont think the Ref’s call would have made a difference but it is still horrible. I have never seen anything like that before. IF it happened to the Broncos or Pats it would be a bigger deal. Just saying. Either way, the Rams are the big winners here. They Skins have secured them a top 10 pick in the 1st round.
]]>By: rayphinkelhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/02/officiating-blunder-mars-washingtons-final-drive/#comment-2978649
Mon, 02 Dec 2013 14:33:41 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2228386#comment-2978649Refs and their mistakes are definitely getting out of hand in the NFL. From their lack of understanding of the rules to their ability to recognize when one of the rules is broken, they are no better than the replacement refs. Atleast the replacement refs came with a cheaper price tag.

Living in the midwest, I have been able (or forced) to watch the Colts play every week for the past couple decades, and I can honestly say there isn’t a team that benefits more from referee calls than they do. I can’t help feel a little crazy because you never see anything said about it anywhere. Some things are just plain weird, and they happen at the most opportune times. Take this week for example, a phantom unnecessary roughness penalty as time expired in the first half (that apparently wasn’t captured by any of their cameras according to the broadcasters). So instead of getting zero points, they get the yardage from the play plus the 15 extra yards from the penalty and a free play, which resulted in a Vinatieri chip shot of a field goal. I can understand if this kind of thing is a once per season thing, but atleast with the Colts, it’s an every week thing. If you need any further examples, I’d point you to their games against Denver and Seattle.

I have no idea how it makes any sense that they would allow the referee that made the call on the field be the one to review his own call. It’s like letting a defendant serve on his jury or better yet, serve as the judge himself. They need to just get rid of the silly challenge system. They need to give the review power to a qualified and tech savy team up in the booth so they can make quick decisions on questionable plays on the fly while the overpaid referees run around on the field like the rodeo clowns they are.

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Mon, 02 Dec 2013 14:25:36 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2228386#comment-2978631The officiating in the Cardinals-Eagles game yesterday made me feel like I was watching backyard football where the spoiled kid who brought the football is making up his own rules after every play. In the last five minutes there was nothing the Cardinals could not be called for, and nothing the Eagles could.

Remember when the media and all the coaches were mooning over the refs when the replacement refs were calling games?

Players will get hurt if we don’t get the regular refs back soon! The regular refs are so much better than the replacement refs! The regular refs never would’ve missed that call! They should just cancel the games until the regular refs get what they want!

Pat Summerall was the biggest homer of them all spending the entire game complaining about the replacement refs instead of commenting on the game.

Turns out that what the fans were saying was right all along. The regular refs aren’t better than the replacement refs. In fact, they are worse and can’t lose their jobs and have little to no responsibility for the calls.

Hail to the media and their false crisis of the regular refs being the only guys who could ref NFL games.

]]>By: justintuckrulehttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/02/officiating-blunder-mars-washingtons-final-drive/#comment-2978595
Mon, 02 Dec 2013 14:17:04 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2228386#comment-2978595So…. I guess the honorable, perfect human shanarat would not have complained one bit if the pass to Davis was completed but during the play, the refs blew the play dead to correct the down and distance.

It was a minor mistake that had no bearing on the outcome. Complete one of those passes and we’re not having this conversation.

]]>By: weepingjebushttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/02/officiating-blunder-mars-washingtons-final-drive/#comment-2978582
Mon, 02 Dec 2013 14:11:16 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2228386#comment-2978582Well, the important thing is that yet another game ended in a baffling and extremely questionable way, making millions of people wonder why they even bothered spending hours of their lives watching it in the first place. Apparently this is all part of the league’s master plan to improve the sport, or something.
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Mon, 02 Dec 2013 13:55:52 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2228386#comment-2978554This is like a broken record…NFL official blows call…decides to review…blows review. Where are all the union officials screaming incompetence, the safety of the players are at stake, and the integrity of the game is being forsaken because the NFL only cares about $$?? The replacement officials were NO worse that what we see every weekend, in every stadium.
]]>By: thefirstsmilergroganhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/02/officiating-blunder-mars-washingtons-final-drive/#comment-2978552
Mon, 02 Dec 2013 13:54:16 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2228386#comment-2978552the refs have been doing this deal for the last couple of years that if its 9 1/2 yards on first down, they spot it over the line to gain and move the chains. this began happening a couple years ago and has begun to be common this year. it can’t be going unnoticed in the league office up till now.

it apparently is quicker mechanically than bringing in the chains and then the team making the half yard on the next play. perhaps its to make up for the delays in replay and the other litigation that goes on after every other play. finally it bit them in the rear end. maybe now they’ll go back to the old way of doing things.

in defense of the refs, the game is becoming much more difficult to officiate with the new speed of the offenses and the rules written to indemnify the league from future injury cases while not addressing the rules that cause the players to be running into each other over the middle at full speed…

]]>By: bullseye717http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/02/officiating-blunder-mars-washingtons-final-drive/#comment-2978543
Mon, 02 Dec 2013 13:46:26 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2228386#comment-2978543Triplette was the idiot that blinded Orlando Brown, took away Manning’s touchdown on a fake spike, and now this debacle. It’s ridiculous this man still has a job.
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Mon, 02 Dec 2013 13:44:39 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2228386#comment-2978537Giants won that game fair and square but that bit of officiating was beyond amateurish.
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