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Apr 23 12:28:26 hi
Apr 23 12:28:41 I am having problems to install apache on my nslu2
Apr 23 12:28:52 hi
Apr 23 12:28:57 what kind of problems?
Apr 23 12:29:02 when installing with ipkg it complains about missing ldap libraries
Apr 23 12:29:42 here's the error message:
Apr 23 12:29:43 ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for apache:
Apr 23 12:29:43 openldap-libs openldap-libs
Apr 23 12:29:59 I can not find those libs with ipkg search
Apr 23 12:30:03 have you install unslung-feeds ?
Apr 23 12:30:13 with ipkg update
Apr 23 12:30:14 ehh.... no
Apr 23 12:30:21 what is this?
Apr 23 12:30:29 and ipkg install unslung-feeds
Apr 23 12:30:40 that are the native ccompiled packages
Apr 23 12:31:10 thanks, I'll try that right now
Apr 23 12:32:31 if the automagically install not work, then you should install openldap-libs manually first
Apr 23 12:33:25 okay, it works now
Apr 23 12:33:29 thank you very much
Apr 23 12:33:32 np
Apr 23 12:33:51 but I don't get the difference between the common ipkg listings and the feeds listing
Apr 23 12:34:00 what do you mean by native compiled?
Apr 23 12:34:09 are the other packages not native compiled?
Apr 23 12:34:41 without unslung-feeds ipkg only knows the cross compiled packages, with unslung-feeds its also know the native compile packages
Apr 23 12:35:36 what does cross compiled mean? do those packages run on other machines too?
Apr 23 12:36:08 no, there are compiled in a cross environment, the natives are compiled at a slug
Apr 23 12:37:08 okay, and I guess some packages need to be compiled on a slug to run properly...?
Apr 23 12:37:38 yeah, there is a little endian big endian problem,
Apr 23 12:38:34 okay, I am really new to the nslu2, so sorry for all those questions
Apr 23 12:38:51 I just got the device a few days ago and now trying to set up some services
Apr 23 12:39:06 Next thing I want to do is to install subversion
Apr 23 12:39:29 for what kind of stuff do you use your nslu2?
Apr 23 12:40:07 streaming of mp3, twonkyvision mediaserver to my terratec mnoxon
Apr 23 12:40:57 and to gamble around with linux
Apr 23 12:41:23 I just see the noxon on terratec's web page
Apr 23 12:41:27 sounds really cool
Apr 23 12:41:41 how is the handling?
Apr 23 12:42:08 a nice little gadget, and my pc could be off, while i'm listening music served from the nslu
Apr 23 12:42:59 is the software for serving the noxon available on the nslu2 package repository?
Apr 23 12:43:04 moving around in the directories, or artist, or albums, via remote control, or play my favorite playlists
Apr 23 12:43:30 wow... sound cool!
Apr 23 12:43:59 twonkyvison is available for imho €8 at twonkyvision.de, but for testing purposes it runs for 10 minutes without buying
Apr 23 12:45:56 where did you buy your device? I can't find it with pricegrabber...
Apr 23 12:46:56 where aou're from?
Apr 23 12:47:09 at the moment I live in the US
Apr 23 12:47:34 if you mean the noxon, i'bought it by terratec
Apr 23 12:47:55 through the terratec web site?
Apr 23 12:48:18 yeah, at december round 99€,
Apr 23 12:49:10 but dunno about shipping costs to us
Apr 23 12:49:20 and taxes
Apr 23 13:17:38 hi again
Apr 23 13:17:48 I now have problems with the svn installation
Apr 23 13:18:11 this is the output when I try to install the svn package:
Apr 23 13:18:14 Installing svn (1.1.1-3) to root...
Apr 23 13:18:14 Downloading http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/unslung/cross/svn_1.1.1-3_armeb.ip
Apr 23 13:18:14 k
Apr 23 13:18:14 Package svn wants to install file /opt/lib/libexpat.so.0
Apr 23 13:18:14 But that file is already provided by package expat
Apr 23 13:18:15 Package svn wants to install file /opt/lib/libexpat.so
Apr 23 13:18:17 But that file is already provided by package expat
Apr 23 13:18:19 An error ocurred, return value: 2.
Apr 23 13:18:45 never tried svn at the slug, but that errors are uncritical, there's a workaround
Apr 23 13:18:59 which would be?
Apr 23 13:19:20 the --force-reinstall option?
Apr 23 13:19:23 1st with ipkg --help you should get a list of commands and possibilities
Apr 23 13:19:40 yeah, but --force-overwrite might be the better choice
Apr 23 13:19:48 okay
Apr 23 13:19:52 I'll try that
Apr 23 13:19:54 or the combination of both
Apr 23 13:20:09 e.g. --force-overwrite --force-reinstall
Apr 23 13:22:42 great
Apr 23 13:22:44 worked fine
Apr 23 13:22:47 thanks again!
Apr 23 13:22:57 fine
Apr 23 13:23:18 I hope my nslu2 won't be overwhelmed with all the services I want to install
Apr 23 13:23:33 did you have any performance problems with the device?
Apr 23 13:24:10 apache is a memory pig ;-), imho it's a good idea to have a look at httpd.conf and choose or unchoose some options
Apr 23 13:24:36 hehe. I'll do that!
Apr 23 13:24:45 you have apache installed too?
Apr 23 13:24:52 only when i compile something, in most cases everything works just in time
Apr 23 13:25:13 nope, only for testing purposes
Apr 23 13:26:56 do you know how I can monitor memory usage? I don't see anything like "top".
Apr 23 13:28:00 top is available, just in use here
Apr 23 13:28:23 do I have to install it from some package?
Apr 23 13:28:33 jsut a moment
Apr 23 13:28:41 thanks, man!
Apr 23 13:29:05 by the way, where do you live?
Apr 23 13:29:33 berlin, germany
Apr 23 13:29:57 for your satisfaction, you want install procps, and you have top
Apr 23 13:31:42 nice city
Apr 23 13:32:46 what do you do there?
Apr 23 13:32:49 yeah, at the summer time, you're from eastern europe
Apr 23 13:33:36 right, from poland to be more specific
Apr 23 13:33:46 now I am in NYC having an internship here
Apr 23 13:34:40 oh nice, we would go to poland in june fpor some wellness at the east coast
Apr 23 13:35:10 Uahh! top complains that a TERM variable is not set
Apr 23 13:35:14 what does that mean?
Apr 23 13:35:17 i'm working at itk more tk
Apr 23 13:35:55 sorry, what is that? itk more tk?
Apr 23 13:37:06 internet technology and telecommunication technolgy
Apr 23 13:37:44 so you work for an ISP?
Apr 23 13:38:47 how is the work situation in berlin? are there enought it jobs? how is the salary compared to other parts of germany?
Apr 23 13:40:36 okay, got it: TERM=linux works for me
Apr 23 13:40:41 nope, for a tk company, i think ,in us you know avaya
Apr 23 13:41:21 yeah
Apr 23 13:41:29 what do you do there?
Apr 23 13:41:34 the situation is not really good, in all parts of germany,
Apr 23 13:42:29 and specially in berlin, from history, the salary is around 10 percent under the average of germany
Apr 23 13:43:09 but live is cheaper in berlin (eg. appartments), right?
Apr 23 13:43:30 oh, i'm field supporter for call center hard- and software, and also for cti/csta system, and voicemail ums systems
Apr 23 13:43:59 cheaper then in munich, might be, but cheaper then hm, hamburg, i didn't think so
Apr 23 13:44:57 another nslu/linux related question:
Apr 23 13:45:13 yeah, short stop at the TERM problem
Apr 23 13:45:37 you should put the definiton in /etc/profile to make it resident
Apr 23 13:45:40 where can I put my environment variables so they are set at start up?
Apr 23 13:45:42 okay
Apr 23 13:45:52 is the path also set there?
Apr 23 13:46:28 I do not have a profile file
Apr 23 13:46:33 should I create one?
Apr 23 13:46:39 and where is the path set?
Apr 23 13:46:53 something like
Apr 23 13:46:54 #
Apr 23 13:46:55 # Bash initialization script
Apr 23 13:46:55 #
Apr 23 13:46:55 PS1="[\u@\h \W]$ "
Apr 23 13:46:55 PATH=/opt/sbin:/opt/bin:/opt/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
Apr 23 13:46:59 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/lib:${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}
Apr 23 13:47:01 TERMINFO=/opt/lib/terminfo
Apr 23 13:47:03 TERM=xterm-pcolor
Apr 23 13:47:05 export PS1 PATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH TERMINFO TERM
Apr 23 13:47:21 TERMINFO and TERM will work if you install ncurses
Apr 23 13:50:40 you live in kreuzberg?
Apr 23 13:52:36 god no ;-)
Apr 23 13:52:53 it's much to life stylish meanwhile
Apr 23 13:53:29 hehe... so where do you live?
Apr 23 13:54:43 hm, you berlin, south west, lichterfelde?
Apr 23 13:55:06 s/you/you known
Apr 23 13:55:23 not really, what is near?
Apr 23 13:56:33 steglitz, or tempelhof
Apr 23 13:57:16 is it a nice neighborhood?
Apr 23 13:58:46 it's a still neighborhood, little streets, squirrels on the trees at the morning, even though in the city
Apr 23 13:59:28 you mean quiet neighborhood? ("still")
Apr 23 14:01:01 oh,yes sure
Apr 23 14:03:45 so you're have another relaed question, what's the problem
Apr 23 14:04:17 oh, you already answered this with the profile file
Apr 23 14:04:24 thanks for your great support
Apr 23 14:04:27 !!!!!!
Apr 23 14:05:11 np, but,
Apr 23 14:05:36 internship in the us, on which way you get it?
Apr 23 14:06:28 and us poland, it's a long way home
Apr 23 14:07:40 oh, I wanted to go to NYC and browsed the business directory of the city
Apr 23 14:08:02 then I applied by e-mail and finally got an internship for one year
Apr 23 14:08:19 a nice find :-)
Apr 23 14:08:37 The worst thing was to get all the legal stuff right
Apr 23 14:08:37 you're in the itk business also?
Apr 23 14:08:57 I am a software developer and working for an it company in manhatten
Apr 23 14:09:16 ah ja
Apr 23 14:09:17 It took around 6 months to get all the legal stuff done
Apr 23 14:09:21 oh yes ;-)
Apr 23 14:09:50 no problem, and regarding your question to poland
Apr 23 14:09:50 legal stuff aka green card, or visa
Apr 23 14:09:55 visa
Apr 23 14:10:10 but to get the visa you need to have a few other documents beforehand
Apr 23 14:10:46 something like a birth certificate
Apr 23 14:11:11 no no, since the "patriot act" things have changes
Apr 23 14:11:58 you need to get a 'Certificate of Eligibility for Exchange Visitor Status"
Apr 23 14:12:09 which is only issued by the Department of State in Boston
Apr 23 14:12:21 oh, yes, read in it in the press, thinking the us government is a little anxious
Apr 23 14:12:30 and this can take up to six months if your company never had a foreign exachange student
Apr 23 14:13:15 thinking, such thing are more easier in europe, since last year
Apr 23 14:13:15 I took me a lot of nerves to finally get here
Apr 23 14:13:31 right, but I do not live in Poland any more
Apr 23 14:13:47 I live in Germany also, in Stuttgart
Apr 23 14:14:26 also a nice town, but drivin there, drives me crazy, so much tunnles
Apr 23 14:14:35 s/tunnles/tunnels
Apr 23 14:14:51 haha, you mean around stuttgart?
Apr 23 14:14:58 or on the way from berlin?
Apr 23 14:15:17 the town is nice, but it really just is a "town" and not a city
Apr 23 14:15:29 so I thought about moving to berlin
Apr 23 14:15:48 no, right in stuttgart, every way you move, there is a tunnel..
Apr 23 14:15:57 haha!
Apr 23 14:16:06 berlin is a town ;-)
Apr 23 14:16:21 sorry, city, not town
Apr 23 14:16:27 but at least it's a safe place to drive with your car!
Apr 23 14:16:36 * caplink811_away searching for cigarettes
Apr 23 14:16:39 once being in berlin they stole the mirrors of my car
Apr 23 14:16:46 ...in kreuzberg
Apr 23 14:18:10 not wondering about that ;-)
Apr 23 14:18:37 may be in that area which the berlin people called so36
Apr 23 14:18:44 yeah, maybe it was the wrong area to park a new c class...
Apr 23 14:18:52 definitiv
Apr 23 14:19:01 sorry, absolut
Apr 23 14:19:03 haha! yeas the SO36 club was just around the corner
Apr 23 14:19:10 "absolutely"
Apr 23 14:19:27 autsch, so you use a bus or the subway in this area
Apr 23 14:19:50 next time I'll be wiser...
Apr 23 14:20:07 may be a better way, and save you to lost your mirrors, or the whole car
Apr 23 14:20:38 and at may, the 1st never go to that corner, it might be dangerous
Apr 23 14:20:48 yeah, I was so happy that they did not take it... and the star was still on the hood...
Apr 23 14:21:32 I know, because of those crazy demonstrators
Apr 23 14:22:03 I really do not get the point why they do this every year
Apr 23 14:22:28 but, if you ever been in us , so , berlin may be a little town for you, have not been there, but i think, everything might be bigger than in germany
Apr 23 14:23:09 that's right. new york city is a great city. everything is totally mixed. nobody give a shit. That's great!
Apr 23 14:23:10 1st may, i didn't understand this too, might be a rite for dunno 20 years
Apr 23 14:24:03 sounds like live in kreuzberg ;-)
Apr 23 14:25:56 hehe! but german/european cities are more divided than mixed. There's a lot of violence between different cultural groups
Apr 23 14:26:40 so, the working situation may be better at a little compny as by a big once, there so much start up in berlin, specially in the media and the scientic industry sector
Apr 23 14:27:22 do major software companies have a branch in berlin
Apr 23 14:27:40 ?
Apr 23 14:28:20 hm, microsoft headquarter is in munich, sap, is near frankfurt, but ebay is located in berlin, jamba, donÄt know, if you know it, also
Apr 23 14:28:59 imho, if you're looking for software industries, frankfurt may be a better choice
Apr 23 14:29:02 right, I always see ebay when leaving berlin...
Apr 23 14:29:25 on the "autobahn"
Apr 23 14:29:25 s/in/from/
Apr 23 14:29:45 I was in frankfurt when I had to have an interview at the US embassy
Apr 23 14:29:54 yeah, right hand side at dreilinden ;-)
Apr 23 14:30:22 but it really looks like a very sterile business city with a big drug addicts problem
Apr 23 14:31:43 yeah, our headquarter is in frankfurt, not a nice city, trouble at day, but dead silence in the evening, everybody left this town, to theire home regions
Apr 23 14:35:04 so, in my tz it's around half past eleven, time to log off, was a nice small talk, which give me the chance, to train my english, thx, and GNite
Apr 23 14:35:47 have a good night
Apr 23 14:35:54 are you in this channel often?
Apr 23 14:37:39 yeah, if marked as -away, i'm around, if not, i'm here ;-), but remember the tz..
Apr 23 14:38:18 usually 4pm to 12 pm, mesz
Apr 23 14:39:19 okay, so see you soon!
Apr 23 14:39:32 GNite, and a nice weekend
Apr 23 15:01:51 does someone have svn running on nslu2?
Apr 23 16:23:23 nick hisser
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