Harrow Borough Council to take action against travellers camp in Queensbury Park

A court order is being sought to move a group of travellers with more than a dozen caravans and vehicles on from a park.

Harrow Borough Council is taking action against the travellers and their vehicles after they illegally entered and occupied part of Queensbury Park, in Honeypot Lane.

The council is set to seek a court order to have the vehicles removed, and police were at the park last night to monitor the situation.

Council leader Cllr Susan Hall, who visited the site yesterday, said: "In just the space of a few hours there's already been damage to the grass from cars and caravans driving around the park, as well as littering and fly-tipping.

"These people have no right to simply set up home anywhere they like.

"This is nothing to do with ethnicity or lifestyle choice; the fact is being a traveller does not mean you can take a pick and mix approach to the law, you have to abide by the same laws about where you can live as everyone else does.

"It has been made clear to the travellers that they are there illegally and need to move on, but we will be seeking a court order in case they do not."

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In January this year travellers set up camp in Chandos Recreation Ground, in Camrose Avenue, Edgware, and were moved on after a court notice was issued.

Last year police moved on an encampment of 20 caravans on the site of the Kodak Sports Ground in Harrow View.

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Harrow Borough Council to take action against travellers camp in Queensbury Park

diligaf says...9:50am Fri 6 Jun 14

Correct me if I'm wrong but Ms Hall is no longer leader of the council, and why has she stuck her big nose into something that is quite obvioulsy nothing to do with her, that hideous blue jacket that she wears constantly is a thing of the past.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Ms Hall is no longer leader of the council, and why has she stuck her big nose into something that is quite obvioulsy nothing to do with her, that hideous blue jacket that she wears constantly is a thing of the past.diligaf

Correct me if I'm wrong but Ms Hall is no longer leader of the council, and why has she stuck her big nose into something that is quite obvioulsy nothing to do with her, that hideous blue jacket that she wears constantly is a thing of the past.

Score: 8

Sonoo Malkani says...10:28am Fri 6 Jun 14

Surely we should applaud actions which damage our parks and also ensure that trespassers and illegal occupants are brought to book,instead of spouting hateful personal comments,which contribute nothing of value. I may be wrong,but I humbly believe all the official positions will change on 12 June.Perhaps somebody who knows better would guide me. As a tax-payer,all I know is that I definitely want the Council to take prompt action and do whatever it takes to preserve our borough and its natural resources. Let's rise above pettiness and do what is necessary to keep our parks and our borough in good order.

Surely we should applaud actions which damage our parks and also ensure that trespassers and illegal occupants are brought to book,instead of spouting hateful personal comments,which contribute nothing of value.
I may be wrong,but I humbly believe all the official positions will change on 12 June.Perhaps somebody who knows better would guide me.
As a tax-payer,all I know is that I definitely want the Council to take prompt action and do whatever it takes to preserve our borough and its natural resources.
Let's rise above pettiness and do what is necessary to keep our parks and our borough in good order.Sonoo Malkani

Surely we should applaud actions which damage our parks and also ensure that trespassers and illegal occupants are brought to book,instead of spouting hateful personal comments,which contribute nothing of value. I may be wrong,but I humbly believe all the official positions will change on 12 June.Perhaps somebody who knows better would guide me. As a tax-payer,all I know is that I definitely want the Council to take prompt action and do whatever it takes to preserve our borough and its natural resources. Let's rise above pettiness and do what is necessary to keep our parks and our borough in good order.

Score: -15

jackdaw says...11:04am Fri 6 Jun 14

The travellers are spoiling these green areas for residents who pay council tax for their upkeep... How much council tax are the travellers paying? Are they paying in kind by doing some mowing, weeding and picking up litter and watering flowers? Residents will find that their council tax will be spent on restoring these green areas to a useable space free of litter. Is there some organisation that represents travellers where bills could be sent for restoring damage to parks. The council tax needs to be spent on those genuine people in need and not on people who are too lazy to comply with the rules the majority of Harrow residents abide by, Wonder how much recyling of rubbish the travellers undertake?

The travellers are spoiling these green areas for residents who pay council tax for their upkeep... How much council tax are the travellers paying? Are they paying in kind by doing some mowing, weeding and picking up litter and watering flowers?
Residents will find that their council tax will be spent on restoring these green areas to a useable space free of litter. Is there some organisation that represents travellers where bills could be sent for restoring damage to parks.
The council tax needs to be spent on those genuine people in need and not on people who are too lazy to comply with the rules the majority of Harrow residents abide by, Wonder how much recyling of rubbish the travellers undertake?jackdaw

The travellers are spoiling these green areas for residents who pay council tax for their upkeep... How much council tax are the travellers paying? Are they paying in kind by doing some mowing, weeding and picking up litter and watering flowers? Residents will find that their council tax will be spent on restoring these green areas to a useable space free of litter. Is there some organisation that represents travellers where bills could be sent for restoring damage to parks. The council tax needs to be spent on those genuine people in need and not on people who are too lazy to comply with the rules the majority of Harrow residents abide by, Wonder how much recyling of rubbish the travellers undertake?

Score: 2

Husain Akhtar says...11:11am Fri 6 Jun 14

Let her enjoy her controversially grabbed title which she will never have again!

Let her enjoy her controversially grabbed title which she will never have again!Husain Akhtar

Let her enjoy her controversially grabbed title which she will never have again!

Score: 10

jackdaw says...11:17am Fri 6 Jun 14

Quote from Cllr. Susan Hall "This is nothing to do with ethnicity or lifestyle choice; the fact is being a traveller does not mean you can take a pick and mix approach to the law, you have to abide by the same laws about where you can live as everyone else does." If the travellers are allowed to pick and choose which laws they obey then burglars and murderers could say their human rights have been ignored as they wish to ignore the law. Where would it all end?. Everyone should obey the law and if they object to the law go through due process to have the law amended. Otherwise, to quote George Orwell." some animals will be more equal than others."

Quote from Cllr. Susan Hall
"This is nothing to do with ethnicity or lifestyle choice; the fact is being a traveller does not mean you can take a pick and mix approach to the law, you have to abide by the same laws about where you can live as everyone else does."
If the travellers are allowed to pick and choose which laws they obey then burglars and murderers could say their human rights have been ignored as they wish to ignore the law. Where would it all end?. Everyone should obey the law and if they object to the law go through due process to have the law amended. Otherwise, to quote George Orwell." some animals will be more equal than others."jackdaw

Quote from Cllr. Susan Hall "This is nothing to do with ethnicity or lifestyle choice; the fact is being a traveller does not mean you can take a pick and mix approach to the law, you have to abide by the same laws about where you can live as everyone else does." If the travellers are allowed to pick and choose which laws they obey then burglars and murderers could say their human rights have been ignored as they wish to ignore the law. Where would it all end?. Everyone should obey the law and if they object to the law go through due process to have the law amended. Otherwise, to quote George Orwell." some animals will be more equal than others."

Score: -8

Cllr Susan Hall says...11:51am Fri 6 Jun 14

jackdaw wrote…

Quote from Cllr. Susan Hall "This is nothing to do with ethnicity or lifestyle choice; the fact is being a traveller does not mean you can take a pick and mix approach to the law, you have to abide by the same laws about where you can live as everyone else does." If the travellers are allowed to pick and choose which laws they obey then burglars and murderers could say their human rights have been ignored as they wish to ignore the law. Where would it all end?. Everyone should obey the law and if they object to the law go through due process to have the law amended. Otherwise, to quote George Orwell." some animals will be more equal than others."

Diligaf please get your facts correct when as usual critisising. I am Leader until next Thursday, the Jacket is Purple and I have always strongly supported our front line staff and our incredible Police, that will continue whether you like it or not. Some of us take action while others just concentrate on finding fault with everyone and everything and that goes for the past discredited Cll Akhtar who has sniped at me and other women for years

[quote][p][bold]jackdaw[/bold] wrote:
Quote from Cllr. Susan Hall
"This is nothing to do with ethnicity or lifestyle choice; the fact is being a traveller does not mean you can take a pick and mix approach to the law, you have to abide by the same laws about where you can live as everyone else does."
If the travellers are allowed to pick and choose which laws they obey then burglars and murderers could say their human rights have been ignored as they wish to ignore the law. Where would it all end?. Everyone should obey the law and if they object to the law go through due process to have the law amended. Otherwise, to quote George Orwell." some animals will be more equal than others."[/p][/quote]Diligaf please get your facts correct when as usual critisising. I am Leader until next Thursday, the Jacket is Purple and I have always strongly supported our front line staff and our incredible Police, that will continue whether you like it or not. Some of us take action while others just concentrate on finding fault with everyone and everything and that goes for the past discredited Cll Akhtar who has sniped at me and other women for yearsCllr Susan Hall

jackdaw wrote…

Quote from Cllr. Susan Hall "This is nothing to do with ethnicity or lifestyle choice; the fact is being a traveller does not mean you can take a pick and mix approach to the law, you have to abide by the same laws about where you can live as everyone else does." If the travellers are allowed to pick and choose which laws they obey then burglars and murderers could say their human rights have been ignored as they wish to ignore the law. Where would it all end?. Everyone should obey the law and if they object to the law go through due process to have the law amended. Otherwise, to quote George Orwell." some animals will be more equal than others."

Diligaf please get your facts correct when as usual critisising. I am Leader until next Thursday, the Jacket is Purple and I have always strongly supported our front line staff and our incredible Police, that will continue whether you like it or not. Some of us take action while others just concentrate on finding fault with everyone and everything and that goes for the past discredited Cll Akhtar who has sniped at me and other women for years

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diligaf says...12:34pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Ms Hall sorry I stand corrected, hope thursday comes as quick as poss, the jacket may be purple but you seem to have only one. I whole heartedly support front line and Police, but you appear to be here there and every where, are you a Cllr or a police officer?

Ms Hall sorry I stand corrected, hope thursday comes as quick as poss, the jacket may be purple but you seem to have only one. I whole heartedly support front line and Police, but you appear to be here there and every where, are you a Cllr or a police officer?diligaf

Ms Hall sorry I stand corrected, hope thursday comes as quick as poss, the jacket may be purple but you seem to have only one. I whole heartedly support front line and Police, but you appear to be here there and every where, are you a Cllr or a police officer?

Score: 11

Husain Akhtar says...12:42pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Well said diligraf - she is frustrated by the miserable defeat of her group which has been poor opposition under her leadership - nothing to do that she happens to be female - I love real women!

Well said diligraf - she is frustrated by the miserable defeat of her group which has been poor opposition under her leadership - nothing to do that she happens to be female - I love real women!Husain Akhtar

Well said diligraf - she is frustrated by the miserable defeat of her group which has been poor opposition under her leadership - nothing to do that she happens to be female - I love real women!

Score: 11

jackdaw says...2:39pm Fri 6 Jun 14

The comment by Husain Akhtar is a bit rich considering he was found to have behaved badly by the Standards Committee. I quote from a Harrow Times article of April 2014. "A councillor has been found in breach of Harrow Borough Council’s code of conduct for harassing another councillor and making false allegations." Husain Akhtar is said to be part of the Harrow Monitoring group. How can someone who has been found guilty of bad behaviour in public life sit in judgement on anyone?

The comment by Husain Akhtar is a bit rich considering he was found to have behaved badly by the Standards Committee. I quote from a Harrow Times article of April 2014.
"A councillor has been found in breach of Harrow Borough Council’s code of conduct for harassing another councillor and making false allegations."
Husain Akhtar is said to be part of the Harrow Monitoring group. How can someone who has been found guilty of bad behaviour in public life sit in judgement on anyone?jackdaw

The comment by Husain Akhtar is a bit rich considering he was found to have behaved badly by the Standards Committee. I quote from a Harrow Times article of April 2014. "A councillor has been found in breach of Harrow Borough Council’s code of conduct for harassing another councillor and making false allegations." Husain Akhtar is said to be part of the Harrow Monitoring group. How can someone who has been found guilty of bad behaviour in public life sit in judgement on anyone?

Score: -11

Cllr Susan Hall says...3:06pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Well said Jackdaw, Akhtar is disgraced yet he still continues to spout rubbish to anyone that will listen. He is a bitter individual Diglaf - For once you are correct. I am here there and everywhere because I care about our residents and many had called me regarding the intrusion of the caravans, I wanted to make sure that a robust approach was taken and asked many of the owners myself to leave. I will always support our staff and Police Officers. You might ask where The Leader of the Labour Group was - same answer as always - nowhere to be seen. Regarding the Jackets - so petty, so very very petty!

Well said Jackdaw, Akhtar is disgraced yet he still continues to spout rubbish to anyone that will listen. He is a bitter individual
Diglaf - For once you are correct. I am here there and everywhere because I care about our residents and many had called me regarding the intrusion of the caravans, I wanted to make sure that a robust approach was taken and asked many of the owners myself to leave. I will always support our staff and Police Officers. You might ask where The Leader of the Labour Group was - same answer as always - nowhere to be seen.
Regarding the Jackets - so petty, so very very petty!Cllr Susan Hall

Well said Jackdaw, Akhtar is disgraced yet he still continues to spout rubbish to anyone that will listen. He is a bitter individual Diglaf - For once you are correct. I am here there and everywhere because I care about our residents and many had called me regarding the intrusion of the caravans, I wanted to make sure that a robust approach was taken and asked many of the owners myself to leave. I will always support our staff and Police Officers. You might ask where The Leader of the Labour Group was - same answer as always - nowhere to be seen. Regarding the Jackets - so petty, so very very petty!

Score: -12

Husain Akhtar says...3:41pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Hall can't come out even with a single political argument - the only thing she knows is to hopelessly attack and cry on others shoulders for support, under the shield of her gender - how disgraceful. Proud to be a part of the Harrow Monitoring Group in exposing vile characters as always. Like others who cares about that discredited Standards hearing with a stitched up outcome under the short-lived Hall administration!

Hall can't come out even with a single political argument - the only thing she knows is to hopelessly attack and cry on others shoulders for support, under the shield of her gender - how disgraceful.
Proud to be a part of the Harrow Monitoring Group in exposing vile characters as always.
Like others who cares about that discredited Standards hearing with a stitched up outcome under the short-lived Hall administration!Husain Akhtar

Hall can't come out even with a single political argument - the only thing she knows is to hopelessly attack and cry on others shoulders for support, under the shield of her gender - how disgraceful. Proud to be a part of the Harrow Monitoring Group in exposing vile characters as always. Like others who cares about that discredited Standards hearing with a stitched up outcome under the short-lived Hall administration!

Score: 9

SeaBee says...3:41pm Fri 6 Jun 14

@Husain Akhtar "nothing to do that she happens to be female - I love real women" What happens if they don't love you Mr Akhtar?

@Husain Akhtar
"nothing to do that she happens to be female - I love real women"
What happens if they don't love you Mr Akhtar?SeaBee

@Husain Akhtar "nothing to do that she happens to be female - I love real women" What happens if they don't love you Mr Akhtar?

Score: -1

charrow says...4:19pm Fri 6 Jun 14

@husain - and what political argument were you putting forward in your comments? usual nonsense from you. its amazing how many councillors/ex-counc illors fill up there time with obscure groups like hcj or whatever it is called and harrow monitoring group

@husain - and what political argument were you putting forward in your comments? usual nonsense from you. its amazing how many councillors/ex-counc
illors fill up there time with obscure groups like hcj or whatever it is called and harrow monitoring groupcharrow

@husain - and what political argument were you putting forward in your comments? usual nonsense from you. its amazing how many councillors/ex-counc illors fill up there time with obscure groups like hcj or whatever it is called and harrow monitoring group

Score: -8

Sonoo Malkani says...8:41pm Fri 6 Jun 14

It is really astounding that Husain Akhtar is still doing his best to discredit Cllr Hall.Why does he not do something positive for change and stop hounding her?Surely he can busy himself in making some positive contributions to the borough. What does he mean by "real women"? He seems to frown and look down upon any woman strong enough to stand up to any man,as an equal.

It is really astounding that Husain Akhtar is still doing his best to discredit Cllr Hall.Why does he not do something positive for change and stop hounding her?Surely he can busy himself in making some positive contributions to the borough.
What does he mean by "real women"? He seems to frown and look down upon any woman strong enough to stand up to any man,as an equal.Sonoo Malkani

It is really astounding that Husain Akhtar is still doing his best to discredit Cllr Hall.Why does he not do something positive for change and stop hounding her?Surely he can busy himself in making some positive contributions to the borough. What does he mean by "real women"? He seems to frown and look down upon any woman strong enough to stand up to any man,as an equal.

Score: -8

jackdaw says...11:14pm Fri 6 Jun 14

The one quality Husain Akhtar does have is to unite all political parties. They are all unanimous in their dislike of his mean views and actions. it is astounding that the unfavourable comments made by all the political parties he has joined and then abandoned never penetrate his rhino hide personality. Perhaps the political parties should set up a joint fund to pay for some therapy so he gets some insight and understands why he is so unpopular.

The one quality Husain Akhtar does have is to unite all political parties. They are all unanimous in their dislike of his mean views and actions. it is astounding that the unfavourable comments made by all the political parties he has joined and then abandoned never penetrate his rhino hide personality.
Perhaps the political parties should set up a joint fund to pay for some therapy so he gets some insight and understands why he is so unpopular.jackdaw

The one quality Husain Akhtar does have is to unite all political parties. They are all unanimous in their dislike of his mean views and actions. it is astounding that the unfavourable comments made by all the political parties he has joined and then abandoned never penetrate his rhino hide personality. Perhaps the political parties should set up a joint fund to pay for some therapy so he gets some insight and understands why he is so unpopular.

Score: 0

diligaf says...6:46am Sat 7 Jun 14

Ms Hall DILIGAF Laughs out Loud (LOL) for your old timers, perhaps you should of been there when members of the public of your own ward needed you and you where to busy building your "Empire" to take notice, where was the leader of the council then.... to quote a phrase "no where" the few times people asked for assistance, no where no where to be seen..... regarding the jackets, ask for a raise and buy some new ones :)

Ms Hall DILIGAF Laughs out Loud (LOL) for your old timers, perhaps you should of been there when members of the public of your own ward needed you and you where to busy building your "Empire" to take notice, where was the leader of the council then.... to quote a phrase "no where" the few times people asked for assistance, no where no where to be seen.....
regarding the jackets, ask for a raise and buy some new ones :)diligaf

Ms Hall DILIGAF Laughs out Loud (LOL) for your old timers, perhaps you should of been there when members of the public of your own ward needed you and you where to busy building your "Empire" to take notice, where was the leader of the council then.... to quote a phrase "no where" the few times people asked for assistance, no where no where to be seen..... regarding the jackets, ask for a raise and buy some new ones :)

Score: 1

pravinshah1 says...1:43pm Sat 7 Jun 14

jackdaw, some of us do not care about that discredited Standards hearing with a stitched up outcome under the short-lived Hall administration! This type of political stitch ups have been going on for long time in politics. You are probably new to politics otherwise you would be able to read between lines what is put out and what goes on. Your comment "It is really astounding that Husain Akhtar is still doing his best to discredit Cllr Hall. Why does he not do something positive for change and stop hounding her? Surely he can busy himself in making some positive contributions to the borough." is a wild defensive words as before Husain left the Tory group, he was wise and liked by all including Susan Hall. Once Husain stood up against Susan Hall, machinery was laid down to discredit him. Do not forget, there have been many other councillors in front of the standards committee some of them from the Tory party.

jackdaw, some of us do not care about that discredited Standards hearing with a stitched up outcome under the short-lived Hall administration! This type of political stitch ups have been going on for long time in politics. You are probably new to politics otherwise you would be able to read between lines what is put out and what goes on.
Your comment "It is really astounding that Husain Akhtar is still doing his best to discredit Cllr Hall. Why does he not do something positive for change and stop hounding her? Surely he can busy himself in making some positive contributions to the borough." is a wild defensive words as before Husain left the Tory group, he was wise and liked by all including Susan Hall.
Once Husain stood up against Susan Hall, machinery was laid down to discredit him. Do not forget, there have been many other councillors in front of the standards committee some of them from the Tory party.pravinshah1

jackdaw, some of us do not care about that discredited Standards hearing with a stitched up outcome under the short-lived Hall administration! This type of political stitch ups have been going on for long time in politics. You are probably new to politics otherwise you would be able to read between lines what is put out and what goes on. Your comment "It is really astounding that Husain Akhtar is still doing his best to discredit Cllr Hall. Why does he not do something positive for change and stop hounding her? Surely he can busy himself in making some positive contributions to the borough." is a wild defensive words as before Husain left the Tory group, he was wise and liked by all including Susan Hall. Once Husain stood up against Susan Hall, machinery was laid down to discredit him. Do not forget, there have been many other councillors in front of the standards committee some of them from the Tory party.

Score: 0

Sonoo Malkani says...12:54am Sun 8 Jun 14

Husain Akhtar did some good work while he was an active member of the Tory party.However,since leaving it, he has hopped around from party to party and lost face.People find it hard to trust him precisely because of his party-swapping.

Husain Akhtar did some good work while he was an active member of the Tory party.However,since leaving it, he has hopped around from party to party and lost face.People find it hard to trust him precisely because of his party-swapping.Sonoo Malkani

Husain Akhtar did some good work while he was an active member of the Tory party.However,since leaving it, he has hopped around from party to party and lost face.People find it hard to trust him precisely because of his party-swapping.

Score: -14

DJFearRoss says...1:14pm Mon 9 Jun 14

jackdaw says... The travellers are spoiling these green areas for residents who pay council tax for their upkeep... How much council tax are the travellers paying? -------------------- --------- Neither do a lot of other groups who arrive here and are given free health care, schooling for their 8 children, houses etc Hey Husain Akhtar? That's ok in your book isn't it?

jackdaw says...
The travellers are spoiling these green areas for residents who pay council tax for their upkeep... How much council tax are the travellers paying?
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Neither do a lot of other groups who arrive here and are given free health care, schooling for their 8 children, houses etc Hey Husain Akhtar? That's ok in your book isn't it?DJFearRoss

jackdaw says... The travellers are spoiling these green areas for residents who pay council tax for their upkeep... How much council tax are the travellers paying? -------------------- --------- Neither do a lot of other groups who arrive here and are given free health care, schooling for their 8 children, houses etc Hey Husain Akhtar? That's ok in your book isn't it?

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