I asked the question earlier in the thread about him. Know anything? Late bloomer? Grade Risk? Are we just trying to get a CB in the class?

Read where he went to a camp back in June and turned some heads but was only 150lbs? Maybe thought he was too small at the time and now looking to get a last minute CB? Not sure what the thought process behind bringing him is...

DK how many we could have taken. It's very possible that it WAS only four, as Cavill apparently was offered EE at the last minute after Russell wasn't able to make it for January.

Last year we took 6 EEs (3 freshmen: Metoyer, McNamara, Wade, and 3 JUCOs: Nelson, Everett, Green). Knight was turned down for EE, b/c the coaches wanted to give the last EE slot to McNamara at TE.

Usually the EE limit is related to the 85 total scholarship limit, rather than the annual 25 class limit. Usually, many, if not all, EEs can count for the previous year's class. OU's 6 EEs from 2012 could count for 2011, as the 2011 class was very small (n = 15).

Some of 85 schollies become available b/c some seniors graduate in December, and there is attrition by that point.

It sure seems like coaches are pulling their heads out and getting early starts on guys this year, especially the in state guys. the '14 class is already looking like it is getting off to a better start than the last couple of classes. Hopefully this will continue, and it looks like coaches are going harder after texas kids this year.

Can't wait for the end f recruiting for the '13 class to be over. So many seemingly ups and lots more downs throughout the entire process. It's been draining for fans, coaches and probably the recruits as well. Hope OU has a decent class, not expecting a bountiful harvest of players.

No to Kendall Moore, Dwyane Johnson, Toby Johnson, and most likely Adrian Baker. I think we'll land Outlaw, and we have a pretty good shot with Adeosun and LJ Moore. Dionte Savage will be a Sooner too.

No to Kendall Moore, Dwyane Johnson, Toby Johnson, and most likely Adrian Baker. I think we'll land Outlaw, and we have a pretty good shot with Adeosun and LJ Moore. Dionte Savage will be a Sooner too.

I think we land Savage and Outlaw. maybe with Sooner Magic we get Moore but im not counting on it

Depends on which direction OU is going in the 3-4. They could go the traditional route and play essentially 3 tackles as the 3 man front. Phillips, Quincy Russell/Toby Johnson if we end up with either and say Jordan Wade at the the other end spot. If they go that route with beef up front, then you stand up Grissom and Ndule, or the incoming freshman, Obingawa or whateverh his name is. Then Lindley and Shannon move inside.

If they are doing for reasons of getting speed on the field then I think they go Ndule and Grissom on the ends and Phillips at the NT. With Lindley and Nelson on the outside and Shannon and someone else in the middle. Or Lindley and Shannon remain in the middle and we need another guy outside. This option makes OU's numbers at LB low. The option above adds most of the lighter quicker DEs to OLB. Just depends on Mike and Bob's resoning for the switch I guess.

Your Recruiting Thoughts & Rants

Evans is committed.
We lost Mastro...whatever. The MLB commit.
Is either Byrd or Thomas being moved to OLB?

Are we done at LB? 6 guys? Even adding Byrd or Thomas, that's only 7.

Wasn't there rumor we might switch to the 3-4?
Isn't that rumor pretty much negated by this recruiting class?

Bad year for LB recruiting for sure, but the 2014 class is stacked with talented LBs in TX/OK as well as the rest of the nation. The coaches didn't find any hidden gems in this 2013 class after we lost Mastro, so they are waiting until 2014 instead of giving a desperation offer to a kid that wasn't good enough. Recruiting is a two-year cycle. Give Kish a break until this time next year. I have a feeling he'll do better.

Bad year for LB recruiting for sure, but the 2014 class is stacked with talented LBs in TX/OK as well as the rest of the nation. The coaches didn't find any hidden gems in this 2013 class after we lost Mastro, so they are waiting until 2014 instead of giving a desperation offer to a kid that wasn't good enough. Recruiting is a two-year cycle. Give Kish a break until this time next year. I have a feeling he'll do better.

This has been my thinking as well. Although, it's tough to sit here and deal with not getting a good LB class when it's such a big need right now.

This has been my thinking as well. Although, it's tough to sit here and deal with not getting a good LB class when it's such a big need right now.

Tell me about it. How can you not go out and sell a kid that he could come in and start next year? Frank Shannon is good, and will be good but I've seen better true freshmen line backers play. There are kids out there that could beat him out next year and OU can't get in on any of them? That's odd to me.

Can't wait for the end f recruiting for the '13 class to be over. So many seemingly ups and lots more downs throughout the entire process. It's been draining for fans, coaches and probably the recruits as well. Hope OU has a decent class, not expecting a bountiful harvest of players.

Yep. Overall, this class looked a lot weaker than ones we've been used to but Stoops looks like he's gonna close out this class pretty well. I've heard good things about the 2014 class. But its still early. The ultimate down of this class was when we lost Mastro to A&M the day after the Cotton Bowl.

Considering the rollercoaster ride of this recruiting season, I'm pretty impressed that OU has only lost out(flipping to other schools) on Mastro and Bryant that I can think of... Here's to hoping they're the only 2. haha

Considering the rollercoaster ride of this recruiting season, I'm pretty impressed that OU has only lost out(flipping to other schools) on Mastro and Bryant that I can think of... Here's to hoping they're the only 2. haha

I wouldn't say we are losing out on Bryant...I think his story is far from being told and he had his hand out for some time now, curious how that all ends up in the future

he is going to ND after being all over the place, something's fishy about his recruitment

Mastro sucks to lose, especially to A&M and especially when they have 6-7 LB commits in this class alone while we have 1

Depends on which direction OU is going in the 3-4. They could go the traditional route and play essentially 3 tackles as the 3 man front. Phillips, Quincy Russell/Toby Johnson if we end up with either and say Jordan Wade at the the other end spot. If they go that route with beef up front, then you stand up Grissom and Ndule, or the incoming freshman, Obingawa or whateverh his name is. Then Lindley and Shannon move inside.

If they are doing for reasons of getting speed on the field then I think they go Ndule and Grissom on the ends and Phillips at the NT. With Lindley and Nelson on the outside and Shannon and someone else in the middle. Or Lindley and Shannon remain in the middle and we need another guy outside. This option makes OU's numbers at LB low. The option above adds most of the lighter quicker DEs to OLB. Just depends on Mike and Bob's resoning for the switch I guess.

Eric Striker weighs 198 lbs according to the spring roster. If he ends up starting at the ILB position we are in trouble.

I'd put Striker at OLB. He looks like a guy that's gonna fill out and being here a year he should put some weight on. His hs film is impressive as a blitzer and he's capable of coverage as well. He would be a good disguise around the line of scrimmage

The purposed lineup doesn't look especially talented nor frightening to opponents. Could it hold our '13 scheduled teams to under an average of 30 points per game being really thin on talent-depth-wise and a new secondary plus a retooled offense. Perhaps a saving grace will be that the offense won't strike quickly and grind out time consuming drives. I think that might be the key to success, keep the D off the field, use clock.

1. Onuoha is more likely an OLB at 235 according to the official roster.

2. Chaz Nelson is around there (239) as well. Both these guys are 50 lbs too light to play ideal DE in a 3-4.

3. According to the official roster, Damon Williams has got almost 30 pounds on Torrea Peterson. Switch those two. Nose needs to be a freaking 300 pound hoss. That's Phillips and Damon Williams. IDK how big Quincy is.

Roster is evidently updated, because Landry and the seniors are dropped, and Stills and Jefferson are gone as well.

So we got 5 scholly LB's, 3 walk-ons and one commit. But if you translate 5 or 6 DE's to OLB (including 2 or 3 walk-ons), then you've got some numbers. It all depends on how ideal you want your OLB's. 220? 235? 250? IDK.

It can be done. I think we are in for a rough year (relatively speaking) anyway. Might as well roll the dice. Couldn't be worse D than '11 and '12.

1. Onuoha is more likely an OLB at 235 according to the official roster.

2. Chaz Nelson is around there (239) as well. Both these guys are 50 lbs too light to play ideal DE in a 3-4.

3. According to the official roster, Damon Williams has got almost 30 pounds on Torrea Peterson. Switch those two. Nose needs to be a freaking 300 pound hoss. That's Phillips and Damon Williams. IDK how big Quincy is.

Roster is evidently updated, because Landry and the seniors are dropped, and Stills and Jefferson are gone as well.

So we got 5 scholly LB's, 3 walk-ons and one commit. But if you translate 5 or 6 DE's to OLB (including 2 or 3 walk-ons), then you've got some numbers. It all depends on how ideal you want your OLB's. 220? 235? 250? IDK.

It can be done. I think we are in for a rough year (relatively speaking) anyway. Might as well roll the dice. Couldn't be worse D than '11 and '12.

After checking all the weights on the official roster, I've made some adjustments. Really almost all of our DEs, except for Tapper, are too light to play DE in the 3-4. That makes them LBers. Striker is 198, so I'm back to projecting him at safety.