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OK, I've done it. I've ordered a Silver Fox Std. But I didn't order any lines with it.

Am I right in guessing that it needs 150lb lines? The site where I ordered it didn't exactly specify. If I attached a pair of 100lb lines (from my HQ Yukon), what sort of wind speed would be liable to break them?

Oh, and an associated question. Is it sensible to assume that 150lb lines are as strong at 85ft (25m) as they are at 100ft (30m)? Or at 130ft (40m)?

Line weight is the same no matter the length.. Most people over compensate for line strength, the lighter the lines the better.. unless your going to fly in wind beyond the kites wind capabilities I would go light...I would rather snap a line than a spar

At Kite Party 8 last year, the wind started out light, so I got out a set of 50# lines and was flying some Griffins... then later when the wind picked up I connected a 7 stack of Nexus kites and launched...as I was making a some ground passes I could hear the lines groaning, I then remembered I was on 50#.. landed and switched to 150#

So I think your 100# will work, but recommend your next set of lines should be lighter for the not so windy days

<<The Yukon uses 100# 'blendline' according to the HQ site. These are ok for now, but it might be a good move to buy some decent dyneema lines to get the best from your new kite (Climax lines are good).>>

Yes. Well, I admit I have been wondering about those Yukon lines. Would they explain why, if I try to execute nice, sharp, square maneuvres with my Yukon, it always performs a near-perfect circle? I never had that sort of problem when my quasi-son-in-law granted me permission to fly his Huntsman out in Australia earlier this year. He paid $500 (or Oz equivalent) for it, so the lines would presumably have been The Best.

OK, so I'll try a pair of 100lb dyneema lines. I've now got the stuff to make them from, and I did pick up useful hints from another thread here about pre-stretching dyneema lines!

I'm still waiting for the kite to arrive. I ordered it from a Las Vegas supplier over a week ago, and I gather it's currently languishing in Customs at Heathrow Airport. When I do eventually get a chance to try it out, I'll tell you about it.From a newbie's point of view, of course!

Without revisiting the old thread, Dyneema lines will have a lot less stretch so your kite will react more quickly to your inputs. You will also be able to get more wraps in your lines before they begin to bind up.

I've not tried the Silver Fox ( but everything I've read has been good). The FW Soul is certainly a very nice kite. Shame they don't still import them to the UK ( I would imagine importing from the States will be a bit expensive with shipping and UK import duties ).

Thanks for your comment Hadge.Importing the Silver Fox from Las Vegas has cost me (so far!) £121, including P&P. That compares well with buying any 2.5-metre kite in the UK (whether boutique or commercial). OK, so I still have to discover whether there will be duty or tax added when Royal Mail actually deigns to deliver it!We'll see. I'll let you know!.

(added 5pm GMT, 17 Nov)Hmm. Well the principle's good. Except that the carrier has now informed me that it's probably lost in transit! So my £121 is currently down the drain instead of up in the air ...

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