source is related to KHL, where some teams are waiting for Jagr's decision... just a rumor though.

Sweet. This dude was brought here for one reason, to punch people in the head - every other thing that he can do, other Wings can do better. I like that we have a head-puncher. The league has other, better head-punchers, but this one is ours. Better than nothing. Good work, Kenny!

The odds of a Jagr deal are decreasing by the minute. A trade would light a fire under the possibility, but the Wings don't seem to have anyone on the line.

Like most here of course the idea of Jagr is good at the right price. If he however is trying to squeeze a payday out of it then Im glad Holland is walking away. Way better places to spend the cash. With the look of a lot of the ufa's I think a trade is the best option, not to mention what some teams have done so far. I'm thinking Huds, Flip and a newly signed and cap friendly Ericsson, but to who??

Like most here of course the idea of Jagr is good at the right price. If he however is trying to squeeze a payday out of it then Im glad Holland is walking away. Way better places to spend the cash.

Thing is, he'll still get way more money in the KHL anyway so I don't see why he'd come back to the NHL simply for more cash. I think, more of a hope really, that Jagr is coming back to the NHL for one last grab at another Cup and then there's only a limited amount of teams that fit. Also I'm guessing he'll want some kind of guarantees from the coach that he'll get to play with a great center, e.g. Datsyuk in Detroit, Crosby in Pittsburgh. I think that will weigh heavier than a couple of extra $100K. But then I have no real idea, but this seems to make sense...

That is highly unlikely. Holland would never go that high with other big holes yet to fill. Plus, if we actually were offering $3.75, Jagr wouldn't even be talking to the Pens who only interested in spending around a $1 mil.

It looks to me as if Jagr is using the Wings to get the Pens to sign him. Maybe Kenny can go after Bergenheim on July 1st. He had a good playoff and he's young. Tampa needs to pay most of its remaining Cap space on Stamkos as well as re-sign Roloson. I think Bergenheim is only going to get better.

It looks to me as if Jagr is using the Wings to get the Pens to sign him. Maybe Kenny can go after Bergenheim on July 1st. He had a good playoff and he's young. Tampa needs to pay most of its remaining Cap space on Stamkos as well as re-sign Roloson. I think Bergenheim is only going to get better.

I thought that too. It would bring back that "we don't want to lose a good winger to Detroit" feeling to the Pens. I would like to believe that the reason Jagr wants to come back is because he wants to play alongside all the talent we have, but he has no connection to anyone in Detroit and the only thing we're offering is more money at this point, which Jagr said didn't matter. Unless Hasek can talk Jagr into going to the Wings, going back to hang out with Mario for another year is what he'll do.

As for Bergenheim, great player, would fit our system, and would be a good replacement for Clearly, I think but somebody will overpay for him and it won't be us.

I thought that too. It would bring back that "we don't want to lose a good winger to Detroit" feeling to the Pens. I would like to believe that the reason Jagr wants to come back is because he wants to play alongside all the talent we have, but he has no connection to anyone in Detroit and the only thing we're offering is more money at this point, which Jagr said didn't matter. Unless Hasek can talk Jagr into going to the Wings, going back to hang out with Mario for another year is what he'll do.

As for Bergenheim, great player, would fit our system, and would be a good replacement for Clearly, I think but somebody will overpay for him and it won't be us.

Yeah I can see a team overpaying for Bergenheim. Just for the hell of it...

I've been wanting to mention this for awhile. I'm one of the guys that doesn't really mind seeing a ton of line combos thrown around and I'll even participate from time to time, but I can't stand it when the poster doesn't bold or highlight anything that is different/speculation. It sucks to have to re-read your post 4 times before I figure out that you traded Hudler for Ovechkin and signed Brad Richards to a league minimum contract. Is there any way we can make that a rule? If you're going to post a line combo, you have to either explain what you did differently or bold all the contracts that are speculative.