And if the law did not label them as illegal, what changes? Let's say that 100% of those now illegal are deported. They learn their lesson and return legally. They will suddenly receive the gift of high paying jobs because of this? No. Are they still impoverished? Yes.

Oh, really? Why don't you find the definition of "lawful contact" in any law book? It's not there because it doesn't exist. It means whatever the police or their supervisors determines it means. One defense lawyer noted:

They're much more interested in stirring the pot with the vague generalities of fear and hate. You'll only slow them down if you hold them accountable for the words they choose to use. Can't have that. They can't even acknowledge that probable cause where citizenship status is concerned has no definition within this law.

Interesting! You know I seem to remember hearing that the founding fathers conferenced with the Souix Nation when they were coming up with ideas for the structure of our government and the constitution. Myth?

The Law of Logical Argument: Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

ummm hey i have an answer... it would solve it all.. Everyone that is a real american, with citizenship and all that stuff... they go down to the local state office and get a ohhh a chip inserted,, then the cops can tell instantly who is an illegal or legal. hmmmmmm sounds kinda like a tattoo that a group had to get 60-70 years ago.. but hey.. you wouldnt have a problem with figuring out who is a big bad illegal now would you...

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ummm hey i have an answer... it would solve it all.. Everyone that is a real american, with citizenship and all that stuff... they go down to the local state office and get a ohhh a chip inserted,, then the cops can tell instantly who is an illegal or legal. hmmmmmm sounds kinda like a tattoo that a group had to get 60-70 years ago.. but hey.. you wouldnt have a problem with figuring out who is a big bad illegal now would you...

let me know when you get yours done.

The Law of Logical Argument: Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

That is surprising seeing as how you are from the socialist hell hole that is Canada!!!

yup but my banks didnt need bailing out... lolol and the only real illegal aliens we have a problem with is them darn capitalist right wing nut jobs coming up here to hide their billions and trying to convert us to their system of belief, the almighty dollar. lol, oh and to take advantage of our universal health care.

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Life is short, Play hard, and enjoy every moment as if it was your last.

Why do you have a problem with that? Would you be alarmed if an officer questioned an individual that he suspected was trying to break in to your home?

This is our home. They are breaking in.

probable cause for a potential intruder is a lot more clear than the probable cause for an illegal immigrant.

How can you "suspect" someone of being an illegal immigrant without racially profiling? the only way thats possible is if you see them crossing the border, which is not a situation we need new laws for...