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It's not really that bad. The only thing is...it's not really that good either. Underwhelming is pretty much the word as someone already said. It's just sorta there. Is it the mastering of it? Could just be sort of bland, who knows lol.

I won't argue that ACSS is his best work, but it's not 1997 anymore. I wish he would branch out in his old age instead of always trying to go back and re-make that record.
I would be down for a softer MM record now. Like I said, that could just be the "getting old" in me speaking, but I think his songs are better when they are slower/quieter.

Couldn't get through it -- his vocals are just miserable on this. Instrumentally it seems unremarkable but fine, but his insistence on somehow sounding "hardcore" despite his shot voice is hard to get past. Part of what made TPE great to me was that he seemed to be working within his vocal limitations and focusing in on that leathery, bluesy, whiskey-tinged vibe of things like I Put a Spell On You. This feels like he's trying hard to get back to Little Horn-style screaming, and it just does not do it anymore.

Couldn't get through it -- his vocals are just miserable on this. Instrumentally it seems unremarkable but fine, but his insistence on somehow sounding "hardcore" despite his shot voice is hard to get past. Part of what made TPE great to me was that he seemed to be working within his vocal limitations and focusing in on that leathery, bluesy, whiskey-tinged vibe of things like I Put a Spell On You. This feels like he's trying hard to get back to Little Horn-style screaming, and it just does not do it anymore.

I dig the song, but I agree that I wanted Manson to get rid of the heavy shit and focus on the type of music like the pale emperor.

For some reason I can't explain I always liked Slo-Mo-Tion. It gets stuck in my head occasionally, but pretty much everything he's done since Golden Age has been unremarkable (if not cringe worthy at times) to me.

Although I do remember liking Wight Spider from High End of Low, haven't gone out of my way to listen to it in years.

Gave it a once over, it's alright as far as the modern Manson output goes. I also hear the ACSS recording style except for the drums, maybe if they were EQ'ed a bit differently it would sound more spot on. I mean after the last (say)10 years of his material I've made peace with not getting the same level of intensity as the 90's albums had. I remember feeling a little resentful of Trent's comments back when he'd made them about Manson around Year Zero times but I pretty much now feel the same way. I mean I feel like Manson has basically said he's doing a self-aware parody of what "Marilyn Manson" means to people to some degree and just wants to ride off of his past notoriety, so more power to him I guess. If anything it makes me recognize why new NIN output still feels relevant to me, where Trent has more musically interesting things going on to me in place of the anger and intensity of broken and downward spiral.

Everyone keeps talking about Antichrist, but honestly, I'm hearing a lot more Holywood in the chorus. The guitar sounds like vintage John 5 from that album, if a little blander in tone and energy. The rest of the track is much closer to Born Villain stylings.

It sounds pretty meh to me. Just another forgettable attempt at recreating the past. Manson houldn't even attempt to go for this type of sound anymore IMO, it just doesn't have the same impact it once did. The Pale Emperor was actually a breath of fresh air, this feels like a couple steps back. Hopefully the album will have at least a few good songs.

I dig it, will most likely wait to order the album until I hear more. TPE is a tough act to follow in my opinion (at least when we're talking about more recent Manson)

Originally Posted by Demogorgon

Everyone keeps talking about Antichrist, but honestly, I'm hearing a lot more Holywood in the chorus. The guitar sounds like vintage John 5 from that album, if a little blander in tone and energy. The rest of the track is much closer to Born Villain stylings.

And it continues, Manson liked NIN's most recent Instagram post. Maybe someone should ask Trent at that Q and A what the state of their relationship is these days since we've seen so much interaction online between them this past year or two.