BigTuna wrote:He's a good player. But at this point he's really hurting his career. All that momentum he picked-up from his play last season is going down the toilet.

Yeah, because skills fade quickly at age 26...

That's not what I meant and Franson agreed with me.

No, Franson has steered himself for the big pay-day next year as a UFA - and likely not with T.O. given how these negotiations went down. Wouldn't be surprised if he signs elsewhere for less, or if No-Nuts has to significantly over-pay for his services - even assuming he has an equivalent year this year. Leafs better go far - at least Conference Finals - for him to forget how No-Nuts tried to cheap him out.

Lancer wrote:No, Franson has steered himself for the big pay-day next year as a UFA - and likely not with T.O. given how these negotiations went down. Wouldn't be surprised if he signs elsewhere for less, or if No-Nuts has to significantly over-pay for his services - even assuming he has an equivalent year this year. Leafs better go far - at least Conference Finals - for him to forget how No-Nuts tried to cheap him out.

Lancer wrote:No, Franson has steered himself for the big pay-day next year as a UFA - and likely not with T.O. given how these negotiations went down. Wouldn't be surprised if he signs elsewhere for less, or if No-Nuts has to significantly over-pay for his services - even assuming he has an equivalent year this year. Leafs better go far - at least Conference Finals - for him to forget how No-Nuts tried to cheap him out.

Lancer wrote:No, Franson has steered himself for the big pay-day next year as a UFA - and likely not with T.O. given how these negotiations went down. Wouldn't be surprised if he signs elsewhere for less, or if No-Nuts has to significantly over-pay for his services - even assuming he has an equivalent year this year. Leafs better go far - at least Conference Finals - for him to forget how No-Nuts tried to cheap him out.

Enjoy him while it lasts.

Franson is RFA next year.

Franson now holds the hammer. Next summer he has the considerable leverage of exercising his arbitration rights and unless the cheeseburgler overpays he will automatically be awarded a 1 year deal for well north of 5 then be UFA the summer after.

Hey Tuna, the -$216,667 means they are currently over the cap. Which means they need to drop a player, so lets say they send Trevor Smith down (no idea if they can without clearing waivers and really don't care).

With Clarkson done for the first 10 games and no cap relief from that they will only have 12 forwards and 7 defenseman available.

Can you tell me what happens when someone gets hurt? Hell, Lupul has been healthy way to long and is do to miss a ton of games any time now!

The Leafs have to get rid of someone with salary unless they are going to run with a 20 man roster for the first 10 games and just hope no one gets injured. Remember how the Flames screwed themselves over a few years ago having to run a short bench because they didn't have the cap room to bring anyone up from the minors?

Lancer wrote:No, Franson has steered himself for the big pay-day next year as a UFA - and likely not with T.O. given how these negotiations went down. Wouldn't be surprised if he signs elsewhere for less, or if No-Nuts has to significantly over-pay for his services - even assuming he has an equivalent year this year. Leafs better go far - at least Conference Finals - for him to forget how No-Nuts tried to cheap him out.

Enjoy him while it lasts.

Franson is RFA next year.

Franson now holds the hammer. Next summer he has the considerable leverage of exercising his arbitration rights and unless the cheeseburgler overpays he will automatically be awarded a 1 year deal for well north of 5 then be UFA the summer after.

Huge win for Cody....even more than I initially thought.

So now that you were wrong, it's still a huge blunder by Nonis? Lol. 2 million is a steal. And he's only RFA. Sure he can file for arbitration. But will he have a season like he did last year. We have no idea.

I really don't care what happens in the summer of 2015'. Now you're reaching.

BigTuna wrote:Franson is RFA. He has little leverage again next season.

Uncle dans leg wrote:Franson now holds the hammer. Next summer he has the considerable leverage of exercising his arbitration rights and unless the cheeseburgler overpays he will automatically be awarded a 1 year deal for well north of 5 then be UFA the summer after.

BigTuna wrote:Sure he can file for arbitration. But will he have a season like he did last year. We have no idea.

You said "He has little leverage again next season."

All things being equal, he actually does have leverage next season.

You should've thanked Danny Boy for enlightening you, rather than go the "But..." route.

Hell, all things being equal, Kessel should get an $8m x 8 season = $64m next summer.

But if he loses his other nut he might just decide to go full sex change instead.

Uncle dans leg wrote:Franson now holds the hammer. Next summer he has the considerable leverage of exercising his arbitration rights and unless the cheeseburgler overpays he will automatically be awarded a 1 year deal for well north of 5 then be UFA the summer after.

Huge win for Cody....even more than I initially thought.

So now that you were wrong, it's still a huge blunder by Nonis? Lol. 2 million is a steal. And he's only RFA. Sure he can file for arbitration. But will he have a season like he did last year. We have no idea.

I really don't care what happens in the summer of 2015'. Now you're reaching.

This is pretty much exactly what Franson wanted, less money, but he got the term. Arbitration will have serious repercussions for Nonis next summer if he puts up 50 points.

On his back-end he will have Phaneuf (UFA), Franson (RFA), Fraser (UFA), Gardiner (RFA), and Ranger (UFA) as free agents. Liles will probably be traded for nothing but cap space in the next couple days, leaving Gunnarson as the only regular signed after this season.

So, Nonis isn't in trouble yet. But he probably won't have the space to give raises to Phaneuf, Gardner, and Franson. He will have to let Mark Fraser go, and Morgan Reilly is a $1.7M cap hit (vs Fraser's $1.2).

Still a good deal for Toronto, but I think Franson will play his way out of town by forcing the Leafs hand at the contract table. On the plus side, Darcy Tucker and Colby Armstrong's buyouts, and Ben Scrivens and Matt Frattin's retained salary come off the books!

Strangelove wrote:No yeah they're looking at being stuck with Liles and having to dump a good player.

My guess is they WILL dump Liles in a same type of deal they were on the receiving end of when they got Franson by also accepting Lombardi. Trading Liles and a prospect to get him off their books. Taking back nothing but plugs they can stuff in the minors.

Speaking of teams over the salary cap, Boston and Philly will demote someone for day 1 and then place Savard and Pronger on LTIR. Detroit (26 men still on roster) has to clear about $2.3M. I'd wonder if Tootoo ($1.9M) or Bertuzzi ($2M) hit the waiver wire. Pittsburgh (23 men on roster currently) has to clear about $1.1M in salary. Does Tanner Glass ($1.1M) becomes the odd man out there?