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Thursday, February 5, 2009

When I saw this little item it made me think of something else. The way my mind works; one thing generally causes me to think of another thing. That might be the key to human invention or it might be the nature of the mind itself and I might actually be the guy reading this or Santa’s little elf. I’m glad we cleared that up. We’re just here to clean up the mess...

Over at that tired, “I’m sorry I shit in my pants; someone must have put it there while I was sleeping” forum which I use as an example of, “they went that way” misleading genre it continues to be true that, you couldn’t see the truth if it came up and kissed you on the cheek or anything else.

And the statistical possibility that Paul Wolfowitz would have been the head of The World Bank and that his girlfriend was actually Ann Coulter who used to be a man; serving to muddy the waters here probably doesn’t matter either but I digress.

The fact that I might not know a Khazar from a kosher meat factory isn’t important and I can’t tell you how many Michael Milken’s can dance on the head of an Ivan Bosky or whether Jack Abramoff and Bernie Madoff were Siamese twins. What makes me wonder is that the same kind of chicken is dancing on a griddle in Holocaustlandia and it just doesn’t seem to want to stop.

I guess that should do it for the frame of the picture. Now what do I say? Some people are aware of these things and some people are not and most people don’t care. If anything concerns me it is the fact that most people don’t care and that might be connected to this or it could be connected to this. By this time you should probably be pretty tired of reading all of these things so we’ll just drop a free book in your lap and we can do lunch some time next year, if there is one.

The worst thing about wearing a tin foil hat is that it makes your head itch and your teeth sing. For some people it’s like being caught between a rock and a hard on. For me it’s more like somebody else can’t find my ass with both hands and which is probably what makes me Les Visible and I like that okay.

I guess you can see that there is a problem of some sort here and that the problem would only be that bad things are happening because of it which is what makes it a problem in the first place and what also makes it a Zen koan and why I keep getting hit in the back of the head with a bamboo stave... grasshopper.

Since everything is too fantastic to believe I have decided that someone out there is going to give me one million dollars so that I can buy a particular house in Hawaii and just go on doing what I’m doing. You’re probably reading this right now and I expect you will know how to find me. Given what’s going on, a million dollars isn’t much at all so let your conscience be your guide.

Friends, Romans and book agents lend me your ears; I think we can make a lot of money when we open this Chinese laundry.

My love is a burning hot ember somewhere in the hidden kingdoms of my heart. I suppose it has to burn up all of the world’s garbage before it becomes the one true flame that reveals the face of my beloved. I have been hard at work on it. I have been building the pearl around the irritation of that grain of sand in my shell. I have had a peek behind the curtains into Heaven and Hell. They’re both in operation in real time as you are reading these words.

Somewhere in my mind I am body surfing the splendid combers at Slaughterhouse Beach. If I could, I would have the whole world ride that wave with me until we landed up spent, exhausted and serene upon the glimmering sand. I’m not going to stop until it happens. If I get there first I’m going to do it for you and if you get there first I hope you will remember me by the sea of Galilee and in the devastation of Gaza and upon the shores of Tripoli.

Every one of us must find inside of ourselves a better understanding of how to let the chains fall away from our endless efforts to drive those tired oxen up that slippery hill. That may be a kind of surfing but it is not the one I have in mind for me and for you.

You know that I am a fan of Jacque Fresco and think the world a better place for him being here. I wish for all of us that we could find a better world in our hearts... whatever may lie hereafter besides. The present is where anything starts.

I want you to come with me my friends... into my heart... into our mind... into what has always been possible and keeps getting left behind or seemingly, impossibly up ahead beyond the sliding oxen and the carnage and the dead. It feels like something in a book somewhere. It feels like something I read when I was a child. I believe it must be true.

So, I am going to keep working on that and I hope that you will too.

We are rising up now as into the dawning of the age just the same way that you turn the page and it is being written every moment we are here. We are writing it. It is being written on us; by us, for us, against us, because of us, in spite of us, without us or I don’t know... it just goes on.

I am hoping we can help those oxen up that hill and maybe let all the baggage slide below and somehow we will come on down into the welcoming light of the fireside hearth.

However we manage to sort and arrange these things in order to accomplish what must be, I hope we do it with as much grace and mercy as we have to give.

I’m not saying that I am tired. I am not tired because I am not what carries me; speaking of footprints in the sand.

Let’s find that extra whatever it has to be so that we can cross the ridge and we are free.

And so forth and so on.

Visible sings: ♫ God's Not Dead ♫'God's Not Dead' is track no. 3 of 11 on Visible's 2001 album 'God in Country'Lyrics(pops up)

Visible sings: ♫ Every Day ♫'Every Day' is track no. 11 of 11 on Visible's 2001 album 'God in Country'Lyrics(pops up)

To name names and to put a face on the issues is well and good. The first of many steps to understanding, it is. But after some walking we find it is our own face that must be looked at. The solar cult of the world is missing out on all thats is and helping us do the same. To know who is helping us down that dark road is a key. But next we must find something else to do. The heart is a wornderful place to start. The balancing of the mind, heart, and soul could be a new ride for us. Others before us have started down that road and have given us many gifts and road markers. The new, and I mean new, rulers have hidden this from us, but in our hearts it still remains. Where we go on this trip will be of no real matter but how we move may. Will we seek to control and seek out an end, like the controller of today? Or we will let these fall into place and look on with a smile, than move on to the next wonder of the heart?

No ends, if we allow others to be final in their thought, an end maybe, but soon will those people start thinking again. I ask what will the new ideas be? Destruction of one view for another, but to know that something has gone is only change and the end or ruining of things it is not. All that is, will be and all that we need is here now. It cant be taken, changed or regrown.

Hi Visible, I've been reading your essays for several months now and want you to thank you for the beauty of your Spirit which is so clearly manifested in the abundance I've received from you. Yours is a gift of infinite value. The Road Les Travelled resonates deeply in me because it's my road, too, and it's comforting to see the sparks of light in the dark letting me know that fellow travellers are there on the road and that somehow we'll find our way out of the predatory black forest and into the light. I listened to your song God's Not Dead. You said in that song that God isn't dead, He is hiding. The thing I can't fathom is if "God" is aware of our existence and the unspeakable torment that's been inflicted on humanity by the forces of Evil, why would He hide? If I, being a "mere mortal" would sacrifice my own life to ease one child's torture, how can God blithely hide his face and block his ears to centuries of agonized screams rising to him from the victims of His seeming indifference to Evil? To me, God would have to be either a psychopathic monster or the awesome but impersonal force of existence itself. Yet now I'm treading on forbidden ground, a scary place we've been programmed to fear above all else, because disobeying this Most Sacred Tenet can get us tossed into the eternal fires of hell: Thou Shalt Not Judge God! ("You worm, how dare you question ME...when I made thunder and lightening and yada, yada?" As HE said to Job in the OT). But maybe that's why we must ultimately realize - the Necessity of Judging "God." Thanks again, Les, I'm a huge fan...Zanna

I am serious,every time I log on and nothing has changed I get worried. this is a battle and you are very much on the front lines.

I no longer have a sense of humor. Events are happening very fast now. Knowing that the world is very aware of what went on in Gaza and yet sits by and worries about bull**** scares more than anything. the sleeping masses will not awake from their slumber until it is to late. If they do wake up their reaction will not be well thought out. which is typical of most 'reactions'.

I read this recently and don't completely agree but it is probably an accurate depiction of the mindset of young journalists. "Decades of indoctrination at universities based on the premise that there is no reality (remember your physics) just the imposition of the narrative. Journalists don't depict the world but transform it." Why be concerned with facts, if everyone believes the lie then that is truth. Everyone once believed the earth was flat. How well do you think you would do taking a general knowledge examination in a "world civics" or economics class at some American university. (assuming they hadn't expelled you the first day) The truth is decidedly unpopular these days, at least you would think so if you pay any attention to American media. Who would have thought that all these young journalists were physicists at heart, students of quantum mechanics and adherents to the illusionary nature of reality.

It's heartening to see so many new names showing up here ... things may be bleak, people, but you're not crazy to see that nor alone in what you see.

Zanna ... I agree, it's hard to look at children being murdered by twitching psychotics and wonder just how it is that God allows it. It was just that sort of thing that made me a committed atheist, for a while. Now, the best answer I personally can give is that the web of karma does not begin at birth nor end at death. That innocent, cute little girl who gets used as target practice ... for all any of us know, she might have been an SS officer in a former life, doing exactly the sort of thing that is now being done to her. The horrors we endure in this life are burning off karma accumulated in previous incarnations. So you could well ask, all right, so if bad things happen because you did something shitty to someone else in a previous life, then that person must have done something shitty to someone else in a previous life in order to deserve it, and so on and so on so.... where did it start?

And who says it needs to have started anywhere?

Les, I won't pretend to have understood everything you said here (as if I ever do), but I think I caught your general drift. I can't give you a million dollars but I can join you in working towards a world where no one needs dollars in any amount.

And speaking of such a world ... any plans to help promote Zeitgeist Day? The hour is late but maybe, just maybe something like this might still be able to make a difference.

what i can say is that life is infinite... beyond our present stage of existence exist many more worlds that we shall inhabit one day or another. It is important to realize that No matter what happens no soul can escape the universal law of cause and effect. Justice will prevail in time whether we are here to witness it or not. Remember The divine presence exist and is watching this all unfold without judgment. Our subjective experience and interpretation of whats happening on our planet is all dependent on our own individual levels of consciousness. So become the Change you want to see in every way.Blessings to all.peace

Hey I hear Tahiti is nice this time of year. Doesn't matter what month you read that either.

I was over in Fort Myers a few weeks ago, and we called up the Venus project to see about a tour. They wanted about $120 per couple, but that included all the documents and literature and DVD's. We should have done it, but played scrabble instead. A game I haven't played in 30 years. I did okay. But meeting Jacque would have been awesome. 92 years old? I love the way he thinks. Is it all a dream? Only if we think so.

If the ground swell continues, it will be because of the internet. I hope thoughtful people with some clout, will postpone the inevitable. You know they desperately want to control this thing. The real tin hats are becoming outnumbered, and the shills are ineffective these days. The tide is turning.

Not like eight years ago questioning Sept 11. We were totally outnumbered then. Logic simply didn't work on these people. Humans are stubborn creatures, but if they to see other people doing something they eventually come around. Like being ankle deep in mud, you have to move slowly to get out. Any quick action and you will lose your shoes.

what i can say is that life is infinite... beyond our present stage of existence exist many more worlds that we shall inhabit one day or another. It is important to realize that No matter what happens no soul can escape the universal law of cause and effect. Justice will prevail in time whether we are here to witness it or not. Remember The divine presence exist and is watching this all unfold without judgment. Our subjective experience and interpretation of whats happening on our planet is all dependent on our own individual levels of consciousness. So become the Change you want to see in every way.Blessings to all.peace

It is for you to "wake up" that will "save" the world and the fastening thing you see. The world in you will be the world you see around you. You're wakening will be for you and cant be shared for the benifit of others, they alone will have to do the same. If they choose not to, fine they have forever to start. It is where you will go that we all must go in time.

People who post my work tell me they send me emails and I don't get them.

The People's Voice

and JustGetThere

different situations

One I try to be friendly with but he doesn't have the same perspective and the other I kept sending emails to that never got answered and then he finally tracked me down wondering why I don't send him my work any more. We are fixing that one flowing right along I don't know about the other one but

if for some reason people... you are not hearing from me and you are supposed to it isn't because I didn't try to reach you and if you are trying to reach me and you don't get an answer then sometimes it's just an email problem or some problem but it isn't me.

I just try to do the best I can. I have no agenda. I don't have anything really. I don't even belong to myself so...

"Aloha is being a part of allAnd all being a part of me.When there is pain--it is my pain.When there is joy--it is mine also.I respect all that isAs part of the Creator and part of me.I will not willfully harm anyone or anything.When food is needed I will take only my needAnd explain why it is being taken.The earth, the sky, the sea are mineTo care for, to cherish and to protect.This is Hawaiian--this is Aloha." (Hawaiian Elder)

Thank you, Les, you are a true inspiration. Its sometimes so hard to bring truth to those mired in popular illusion. I'd like to add another observation to your list of "dead give-aways," that being the adoption into public law the 7 Noahide Laws of Universal Morality, which a U.S. joint session of Congress explicitly incorporated in Public Law 102-14 (102 P.L. 14; 1991 H.J. Res. 104; 105 Stat. 44) establishing March 26, 1991 as "Education Day"! The law was signed by Robert Foley, Speaker of the House, Robert Byrd, President protem of the Senate, and President George Bush.

Hi Les, I hope YOU and I BOTH get the million, you get Hawaii and I'll stop getting all these crazy night shifts.

"Can the kingdom of heaven exist on Earth?"

It DID. The Cathars thought they had it knocked. Roman Church said no. That's where the quote kill them all let God sort them out came from. It was a Papal Legate that said it, South of France, I remember it well. He was answering a question: How can we tell the Heretics from our own people? That was the answer.

As long as power rules it will be the same answer.

I know a place south of me. There's soil that perpetually replenishes itself and not a divine miracle, no. It was made by an advanced society of humans, just like us. We can't even imagine it today. We have corporations that engineer seeds for One Lifetime Only.

In our other world WE made SOIL that never died. The distance between there and here is a thought, nothing more. You have it now, others are getting it. As more accumulate, the message gets richer and we'll remember how we made the miracles happen.

Greetings Dumballah please allow me to answer to your rhetorical question. b. A hounganikon directs the music and motion.

I only dance to songs I like. If you are hurting, it shows, if you are laughing your magic is fading, if you are gambling, i can Tell..the road to perdition is wrought with self doubt and happenstance.

From 1984 by George Orwell..

‘Part of the reason for this was that in the past no government had the power to keep its citizens under constant surveillance. The invention of print, however, made it easier to manipulate public opinion, and the film and the radio carried the process further. With the development of television, and the technical advance which made it possible to receive and transmit simultaneously on the same instrument, private life came to an end. Every citizen, or at least every citizen important enough to be worth watching, could be kept for twenty-four hours a day under the eyes of the police and in the sound of official propaganda, with all other channels of communication closed. The possibility of enforcing not only complete obedience to the will of the State, but complete uniformity of opinion on all subjects, now existed for the first time.’ George Orwell 1984

Mate we have all always known, let's just get the fuck on with it and win this fuck'n thing. Sooner is later! Yeah, let's Save the fuck'n Whales! but NO MORE GAZAs!

outlawlessnessness

One day I will discorporate, I need you to help me prepare my soul for its next bardo. So, you have to survive, be your peoples' grail.

N.B: love light & peace!

and i cannot abide always being the last hog at the trough - you are always 17 to 20 hours wiser when i see your latest trans. so i guess i get the youthful perspective everytime(?).

Hey Les,Here's a blog I saved that might serve to answer a previous bloggers question about why God seems to be silent about all the injustice in the world:

Many of the Talmudic Jewish 'true believers' in Israel and abroad are ecstatic over the Gaza massacre because they think it signifies the soon return of the Messiah. Evidently what none of them realize is that according to several Bible prophecies, when Jesus returns the very first people he is going to visit are his enemies, who, not coincidentally, occupy today's political Israel. According to scripture when he returns he will be so angry at them that when his foot touches the Mount of Olives the energy of his outrage will split the mountain in half down the middle, causing one of the most violent earthquakes in all of human history. Hardly a loving jesture toward the inhabitants of the place. Yet they are so self-decieved and stupid as to imagine he will come for their salvation, they who commit murder enmasse of their defenseless neighbors. They are in for a big surprise when he does return, and deservedly so. DumbGoyNot Anonymous Blogger

The kingdom of God is here and its the now. No waiting around needed. If you see all as one than how close you are to it. This "kingdom" was and is made perfect by creative love and can be shown to others in that way. We cant lose it, nor will we. We can let other wordly things get in the way, but only ourselves lose the kingdom in mind and heart. Its much like a dream but some much more real than the material world.

Let me ask a question. What event or occasion will happen that will make everyone see the truth, that we are all one?

And if most don't see it, what affect will it have on the world as a whole? We see the effect it is having now, when the majority do not see that we are all one.

The killers keep on killing.

A few people have some vague sense that we are all one, and their actions are based on that.

Say you get thrown in a lockup cell and you are peaceful, and that other maniac standing over there is not. Does he interpret your behavior as weak or strong? Are you crawling in a corner or do you go up and look him in the face? Is "peaceful" strength or weakness?

We see violence is everywhere, is this natural and unavoidable? The path we are on right now will certainly end in self destruction. Is this natural? Humans are nature, we are not separate from nature, so everything we do is natural, right?

Is it the responsibility of everyone who claims to see that we are all one to....do what? What is the right action of a person who claims to be free of division?

We are all "one", is a beautiful idea, but is it so? Will you let that guy over there sleep with your wife? Some "primitive" tribes actually do, you know. We are all one. That implies no division, no conflict, seamless, nonviolence. It implies total love doesn't it?

The fact remains, most don't see that, and they are killing each other all over the globe. The Zionist certainly don't believe it. They imagine they are superior, so it's easy for them to kill the lower forms of life, that be you and me.

What is the relationship between one who believes we are one, and the mongrel who doesn't?

NONE!

They are coming at you with a knife. What are you going to do?

I'm just asking the question.

I'm suggesting that all of us do not take this subject too lightly. Admit that it is complex, that's the first thing. Be honest.

We see that this division will ultimately lead to the destruction of the human race. Where there is division there is conflict, and war, that is a fact. You have your religion I have mine, and we fight. You are a democrat, I'm a republican, we fight. You are Chinese, I'm Japanese, and so on...

As long as you identify with something, you are in conflict with others who believe differently, and potentially you will fight over the difference. Can you face that fact?

No, you wont. You love your beliefs and I love mine. We are so attached to our beliefs that we are willing to die for them. We are not willing to give up those cherished beliefs of ours, and so we will fight till we kill off everyone on earth. I'm worried that we are not really serious in all this, we just type out lovely ideas about oneness, and are satisfied.

It is my understanding that self-defense is always allowed. As part of Nature, that is our right.

How would a pack of wolves, or a herd of elephants, deal with one of their own kind who constantly attacked the others, who fought to keep all of the food only for their self, even if they could not possibly eat it? They would drive that one away, or kill them, would they not?

There are two aspects when dealing with the human instrument: the aspect of the immortal soul, and that of the physical body. The immortal soul is in no danger, but all of physical humanity is in danger from the evil that possesses a few of them. Survival requires that this threat to its existence be dealt with however necessary.

If it can be done without violence, all the better. If the evil ones must be killed to end the threat to all of us, that's their tough luck. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it, and would be fine dealing with whatever karma might incur from exercising my right of self defense. They made their free-will choice, and a part of that is taking responsibility for the consequences.

I for one always keep in mind that the evil ones will cheerfully cut off my head while I am sending them love.

Illustration. You see some idiot attacking your children. You are a pacifist, do you allow it?

NO!

I'm just pointing out that "oneness" is good, in a perfect world. But we aint there yet. So what action do you take when you see injustice? I don't want to trivialize this, but...

The first step is to remove all the idealistic ideas we have. Life is violence. Cops beating innocent people, governments killing people, and calling it just, that is reality.

I'm saying get rid of your idealist concepts and face reality, first step.

And one other thing, violence is violence good or bad, whether you are defending or not, it's still violence. Face that too. Reality is non negotiable. I'm not saying it's bad to defend your loved ones, no way. Someone breaks in my house to kill my loved ones, guess what? And whatever happens is gonna be violent, fact, right?

I'm saying lets get away from the sweet ideal, and get with reality. Work with that and then we may be able to move forward. But to pretend we are something we are not is meaningless.

To let the whole awesome complexity of human existence go down to the simple mindset of the "corporation" is insane.

The arts. Music. Great cinema, not the propaganda stuff, but the real art...

The literature...

... to let that all go to the corporations, that simple bottom line mentality, driving all into mediocrity, I don't think so. Shut off the TV. Question it all, the radio, newspapers, media nonsense. I'm preaching to the choir I know, but whoever comes wandering in here, listen to an old man. Don't buy the garbage you see on TV. Question everything you see and hear. Are you in a public school? Get out! Are you at Mc Donalds now, spit it out!

You know what I mean.

Sorry Les Visible, this is not the place for complex dialogue, this is your blog. And thanks for indulging in all this.

We all say keep up the work man, lets turn this insanity around before it's too late.

I encountered this guy, a bit bigger than me and he had some connections, okay. And I challenged him in a situation only construction workers would know, he had 4 guys in his gang behind him. And he got in my face, and I'm not stupid but I didn't back down either. Mind you I was recuperating from open heart surgery at the time. And I got in his face, and wouldn't back down.

And later we became best of friends, you know. he was half my age and at one point I grabbed him at the neck after throwing coffee in his face. You know he could have kicked my ass, right? But in the end he respected the fact that I wasn't afraid of him, At one point I grabbed a stick he was wielding and chased him around the yard, funny really.

And right now his dad is going through a time, and has cancer and I love those guys, you know?

What I'm saying is, don't be afraid okay. We are all human, and we are all human.

About ten years ago, I was asked to speak to a Mennonite congregation about what public perception of them was. For those of you not familiar with Mennonites, they are an offshoot of the Amish and are very anti-war—choosing to be conscientious objectors, etc. They basically won’t “take” a life—at least in theory.

For those who know my style of writing, or lack of it, rest assured that the only one in the church who didn’t want to kill me after I spoke, was my wife.

I told them that they have had the luxury of living in a country, and at a time where they could discuss their beliefs, usually over coffee and doughnuts, with people who held similar beliefs and therefore everyone (the everyone being them) agreed that they were right in the stance they take (sound like smokingmirrors?)

But, I said, let’s bring things a little closer to home. Let’s say that there is a war here, or civil unrest of some sort and there are a lot of people out there who want what you have—Now, before you tell me that you would open your homes and start feeding people, understand that they want all of what you have—every scrap and crumb. Yep, they said that it would be Gods will for them to do that—God would provide and protect.

Ok, I said, now they want your 12 year old daughter and your 15 year old daughter—and they don’t want to leave any witnesses-—are you going to tell your girls that it’s gods will? Well, there is no Sheriff for you to call to do the killing by proxy, so you don’t have that luxury to hide behind. It’s the rapists, your daughters, and the shotgun you shoot birds with and it’s within reach, and loaded—what do you do—we’re no longer in the hypothetical here. Every wife and daughter in the place was looking at dad to see what, other than wanting to kill me, he was thinking about.

Someone said that that if it was gods will, it was gods will—big fucking mistake as far as the look his wife and daughters gave him. His nuts are probably still sucked up inside of him somewhere around his chin to this day.

You hear it on the TV about the people who say that god protected their son or daughter in a time of war—well, if you give god the credit for that, then you have to place the blame somewhere for all the people who are not only killed, but for those who are in agony from white phosphorous, those who are still alive who have been raped and tortured, etc. and only wish they were dead, that “he” could have saved yet chose not to for some reason--

If someone is drowning in a swimming pool and I fail to jump in after them, or throw them a flotation device, am I guilty of their death—even though I didn’t cause them to fall in—I just failed to act to save them—is there a difference?

Is there a difference with “god” other than saying it must be the sick bastards “WILL”?I am, of course talking about the biblical god—The “kill em’ all, I’ll sort em’ out” one—take a number and have a seat—now serving number 88----

Most of us reading and commenting at this blog have the luxury of not being in a war zone so everything we say and write is in the hypothetical—but it may not be for long.

Where you stand, is where you stand. It may not even be taking aim at someone—but what about stealing from someone to feed your own?What about the opportunity to “get rid” of that pain in the ass neighbor down the street in a time of war/insurrection? No one would ever know and you think the neighborhood would be much better off without him.

As with most things, they are never cut and dried—they vary in degrees and in their severity and how we choose to deal, or not deal with them—yet, those small decisions are a mirror to who we are—

Interesting choices we have if we have the wherewithal and foresight to even have the tools to give us options—

Very interesting.

I closed with them by asking why they didn’t, if they were so against war, stop paying their taxes that go to fund wars, and go to prison instead---to which there was a deafening silence—my own included---

Which all leads, perhaps, into the question of what is self defense? Taken to the extreme, it's that person coming at you with a knife or bludgeon; one degree removed, their intended victim is your family and loved ones.

How about those who wouldn't dream of dirtying their hands with a knife or bludgeon, as they can always pay or coerce or lie someone else into doing their dirty work? Do you fail to defend yourself against their minions because the tools are only tools? Do you fail to strike back against those who sent these minions because they didn't personally wield the weapons that threaten you and yours?

Here's an idea: If I am a part of creation, and I have free will, then my conscious will is the will of creation. IS IT NOT SO?

Some years ago I listened to a talk on the subjects of honor, virtue, and impeccability. Truthfully, I was fearful of what I would hear, knowing well my own history and weakness. To my surprise, virtue was defined as the result of learning from one's sins, not from having never committed them. Honor was defined as being true to one's word. And impeccability was even more simple: being true to one's own highest ideals. All rather personal, and quite easy to live with.

I would suggest that those of you who believe that the path of non-violence is inherently morally superior have been lied to. I would suggest that the examples of Mohandas Gandhi and MLK Jr, the civil rights marches and the anti war protests of the 1960s, all of which supposedly accomplished their goals, were all a set up by your controllers to convince you that non-violence was an effective tool to change the behavior of your oppressors. I would add that this lie goes back a long way, and was inserted into the words of Jesus in the Bible, and taught for several thousand years to the people of Asia via the Vedas. And meanwhile, those same ones who sold you this lie continued and still continue to use their tool of choice against you, nothing other than violence and the threat of violence. You have been scammed.

As Dadnerd pointed out, there are seeming enemies who are not really your enemy, simply other feeling humans who feel threatened by you, mostly because of poor communication and not knowing each other well. With those, one can accomplish much by giving them love, though first one may have to chase them around the yard with a large stick just to get their attention and respect.

As for the psychopaths and their willing tools on this plane, and those of other planes whose tools the psychopaths are, you are wasting your time giving them love. One can go ahead and believe that by loving them one is pouring metaphorical burning coals upon their heads, but in the meantime they will continue to pour real burning coals on your head and those of your loved ones, just as they have done throughout human history. And they will be laughing at you for believing the lie they have deliberately fed you in order to make the achievement of their goals easier.

The example of Rachel Corrie should serve to prove the point, as well as the not-too-subtle hint we have been left in the story of the mythical Jesus: Your Earthly reward for following this path of non-violence will be public humiliation, torture, and death.

We are not talking about immortal souls here, we are discussing mortal bodies and a living planet. Against those who know no mercy and have no conscience, the concept of ahimsa is worthless. What good does it accomplish to escape this life with your soul unstained by violence if what you have left behind is ongoing devastation and continued suffering, simply because you refused to act?

Am I suggesting that you attack your oppressors with pitchforks and guns? Indeed. Have they not done you enough violence to convince you that it will continue until you put a stop to it? Be as sure as you can in your identification of the perpetrators, then do what is necessary. And at the same time, act not in anger, but in the cool knowledge that one must clear the field of tares before the bountiful crop can be sown and grow.

Here is what you can do non-violently: Withdraw all support from those who wish you harm, and from the tools of those who wish you harm. Give no support to your government beyond that which they can extract from you under force and threat of force, and even that give only while voicing your objection to theft and coercion. Do not support the "troops". Do not support your local police, they are there to "serve and protect" only your oppressors, who steal the money from you to pay their salaries.

The most visible tools of oppression are the corporations, the governments, and the financial institutions. Take back from them all you can, and from here out give them nothing.

Learn from your past, that you may be virtuous. Keep your word, that you may be honorable. And be true to your own ideals, that you may be impeccable.

Jj ~ The interesting “choices” you had proposed to the Mennonites made me think of the tragic shooting of 10 (killing 5) Amish girls near Lancaster, PA on Oct. 2, 2006. The West Nickel Mines School was demolished the following week and the site was left as a quiet pasture. A new schoolhouse, called the New Hope School, was constructed with added security features in a safer location a mile away from the original school.

“The school has a steel door that locks from the inside. It has no phone, but its location behind a row of non-Amish homes provides a way to quickly summon help in an emergency. During the rampage, a teacher had to run to a neighboring farm to call 911.”http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003648595_amish03.html

Strange but I always know when it's Jj posting after reading one or two sentences, whats up with that? Love your stuff man.

Interesting subject though. If someone breaks in your house and attempts to rape your daughter, are you a pacifist for letting it happen? Or are you in effect part of the crime? Is pacifism another word for coward?

Just inquiring here.

Personally I would never hurt anyone physically or verbally, but don't think you are breaking in my house and getting away with it without a fight. Hey none of us live forever.

It's quite another thing to believe you are superior and therefore can commit crimes against humanity with impunity.

Soldiers are trained to kill and obey their "superiors". That's another whole complex subject, how we let others tell us what to do. The battle here is to resist the mindset presented by the so called authorities. Comes down to questioning authority. Most military organizations don't allow that.

We are all individuals, and to allow others to manipulate our behavior goes contrary to nature.

The only thing we can do is hammer home that we need to respect the individual, and not allow ourselves to be grouped into categories. Shake off the mindset presented to us by the Govs of the world. Like the old war resistance of the 60"s said, what if they had a war and no one came?

So where are you philosophers when it comes to retribution and justice?.I rather think that had I been around during the French revolution - and I may have been - I would have been quite wlling to have been a crone, knitting, and watching the aristos heads fall in the baskets.I have a sneaking suspicion that I would not be adverse to the guillotine being set up again for bankers, politicians and other deserving crap.I have a problem, too, with the cattle trucks of a certain mass lie. I devide things into two categories.Personal - where i believe in stopping the wheel. I want no more karmic retribution against those who wrong me. Not least because some I never want to meet again in all eternity, never mind in another life to get my own back.However saying that, there is the collective. Now I should feel that the evil greedy vicious bastards infesting our planet will meet all their come uppance in another 1000+ - lifetimes. But I don't get much satisfaction from it.Being human I would get a great deal of pleasure out of seeing this retribution given a boost and a little help to send them forth on their thoroughly miserable 1000 times around.Yes a guillotine appeals - for the collective!!!!I have a little list......Rosie

Thanks for that post. That was one of the most impassioned things I've ever read on the internet. Humanity has been conned so many ways over the centuries and you are right about that one. Generally the few people that change things end up dying for it. That's why most people hesitate to take a stand. No one wants to die. And worse, we fear for our children. And history shows we wait till there is a crisis before we act.

Lets face it 9/11 was a desperate act. We have been in crisis since then. Will the people wait too long to act? Probably.

First step is arming ourselves with real knowledge. With that you can make right decisions. You know the powers that be, love nothing more than watching people attack each other instead of them. They are masters at setting people against each other.

Generally don't like to cut and paste, but there seems to be some value in this one for the group.

European American

By Eustace Mullins

In all of recorded history, there was only one civilization which the Jews could not destroy. Because of this, they have given it the silent treatment. Few American college graduates with a Ph.D. degree could tell you what the Byzantine Empire was.

It was the Empire of East Rome, set up by Roman leaders after the Jews had destroyed Rome. This empire functioned in Constantinople for twelve hundred years, the longest duration of any empire in the history of the world.

Throughout the history of Byzantium, as it was known, by imperial edict, no Jew was allowed to hold any post in the Empire, nor was he allowed to educate the young. The Byzantine Empire finally fell to the Turks after twelve centuries of prosperity, and the Jews have attempted to wipe out all traces of its history.

Yet its edicts against the Jews were not cruel; in fact, the Jews lived unmolested and prosperously in the empire throughout its history, but here alone the vicious cycle of host and parasite did not take place.

It was a Christian civilization, and the Jews were not able to exercise any influence. Nor did the Orthodox priests bewilder their congregations with any vicious lies about Christ being a Jew.

No wonder the Jews want to eradicate the memory of such a culture.

It was Ezra Pound who launched upon a study of Byzantine civilization, and who reminded the world of this happily non-Jewish land.

From the Byzantines, Pound derived his no-violent formula for controlling the Jews.

"The answer to the Jewish problem is simple," he said.

"Keep them out of banking, out of education, out of government."

And this is how simple it is.

There is no need to kill the Jews. In fact, every pogrom in history has played into their hands, and has in many instances been cleverly instigated by them.

Get the Jews out of banking and they cannot control the economic life of the community.

Get the Jews out of education and they can not pervert the minds of the young to their subversive doctrines.

It seems that keeping the Jews from positions of power and influence would work, much like belling the cat would tell the mice he was coming.

We are in the unfortunate situation today of the Jews fully controlling government, banking, and education. The population has been brainwashed throughout the West at least, due to the Jews controlling education. Most cannot allow themselves to ask the questions needed. The doctrines of racial, religious, and cultural equivalence have infiltrated their minds and all institutions as well.

Note how all of these have been sold to us with the wrapping of truth around the poison pill. How can we possibly awake and empower those who rightly accept equality of opportunity, and convince them to make an exception for the Jews?

I would suggest that we have been given a tool to do so. That tool is the concept of psychopathy. The diagnosis of psychopathology is specific, not a broad-brush stroke like the term Jew. And Jews have no monopoly on psychopathy; they may have a strong preponderance for it, and the basic tenets of their religion are psychopathic, but not all Jews are psychopaths.

Over the past couple of years I have watched the awareness of psychopathology grow on the internet. The other day I read an article by an author who had interviewed an number of major players at the recent economic conference at Davos. He was asking "Why do these people show no guilt and deny all responsibility for what they have caused?"

There were seven or eight comments when I logged in; all but one pointed to the same answer: because they are psychopaths. The awareness is growing.

Until we learn to positively identify psychopaths, label them clearly, and prevent them from attaining any position of power or influence, we will get nowhere. This also applies to institutions that are psychopathic by definition, such as the corporation, centralized government, or certain religious tenets. The identifying characteristics are the same: the absence of conscience and personal responsibility combined with the focus on service to self alone, whether that self is an individual or a group.

Spread the word. Tell others to do a web search for the word "ponerology". The problem is psychopaths.