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I have a suspicion that they (the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses) will never correct their error about who goes to Heaven. The reason why is that some people will do the Math and .......the rest isn't ladylike so I should* say it......

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Where I am there is a tradition that is saying, "you can be whatever you want to be".

God sees what a soul might do, imo.

The governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses is a group of men who want to rule you and me and all the people who have already died. How do I know? They all profess to be of the 144,000. And all the 144,000 better want to rule and rule right.

If they succeed in being whatever they want to be they would be inclined to decide who can't go to Heaven as they believe that only people who died after Jesus Christ may go there.

They believe that John the Baptist is scheduled for the Earth so if he would make his way to Heaven (he would, imo) they would stop him.

Why not let's imagine that they get what they are striving for. Because of what they trust is true, they will block the way to Heaven for all the holy ones of God in case they died before Jesus did.

They probably can't to that, but they would do that.

If I would block your way to the place you want to go, what would that make me?

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10Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. 12Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD; because of these same detestable practices the LORD your God will drive out those nations before you.
Governing body, do you know what divination is? I do, I looked it up.

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1 Corinthians 7:19
Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing. Keeping God's commandments is what matters.

Romans 2:26
If a man who is not circumcised keeps the requirements of the Law, will not his uncircumcision be regarded as circumcision?

Romans 2:29
No, a man is a Jew because he is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man's praise does not come from men, but from God.

I believe the 144,000 pictures every soul who belongs to Christ to do the will of God faithfully. I think there may be more than 144,000 or less. The number 144,000 which is given to describe them is most likely to teach something.

Hello Savage!
If you get seen wacking doodles around here you get reported to the RSPCA.

I didn't realise that the 144,000 are all from the tribes of the Israelites. So that's me plonked firmly in the sticky stuff?

I suppose I am in trouble anyway; members of the Studd Hill Full-Moon Frolickers are unlikely to stay risen for long, believe me. But the sight of Mrs MacNorton skipping about in the moon beams will have to be heaven enough!

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1 Corinthians 7:19
Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing. Keeping God's commandments is what matters.

Romans 2:26
If a man who is not circumcised keeps the requirements of the Law, will not his uncircumcision be regarded as circumcision?

Romans 2:29
No, a man is a Jew because he is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man's praise does not come from men, but from God.

I believe the 144,000 pictures every soul who belongs to Christ to do the will of God faithfully. I think there may be more than 144,000 or less. The number 144,000 which is given to describe them is most likely to teach something.

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I understand where you are coming from but Rev 7:5 - 8 break the numbers down by tribe.

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Hello Savage!
If you get seen wacking doodles around here you get reported to the RSPCA.

I didn't realise that the 144,000 are all from the tribes of the Israelites. So that's me plonked firmly in the sticky stuff?

I suppose I am in trouble anyway; members of the Studd Hill Full-Moon Frolickers are unlikely to stay risen for long, believe me. But the sight of Mrs MacNorton skipping about in the moon beams will have to be heaven enough!

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OK! That has to be the funniest post that I have ever read. LOL

Did you really not know that it is written the 144,000 are from Israel?

I think it means that it was Israel who is God's sponsor. I think that some of the 144,000 are adopted sons and daughters.