15 Concept Controllers That Didn’t Take Off

For every controller that hits shelves, there are always a few more great ideas that don’t see serious play time. Today we look back at those conceptual products that got us all excited but never delivered the goods. Plus, to really spice it up, we are giving away two unreleased controllers to a few lucky readers.

NUMARK MPC DJ

The MPC DJ – not available in stores!

Numark has a strong history of debuting prototype controllers front-and-center at the NAMM show – and in 2012, they did exactly that with the MPC DJ controller. The grid of 16 pads actually ended up being distributed around various Numark models – including the Mixtrack Pro 2 and the new NS7 II – but the MPC DJ never made it beyond the protective plastic box on the showroom floor.

POCO POCO

This Midi Fighter-eque controller engineered in Tokyo first made an appearance on DJTT in 2011. The controller included 16 motorized pads that could be twisted or pressed at any given time – suggesting a new interaction possibility. In our original interview with one of the product designers, they expressed interest in releasing it on a larger scale, but nothing ever came to light.

AMPLIVE’S GUITAR FIGHTER

The neck of Amp Live’s first MPC Guitar

Amplive was one of the first artists to work with DJTT in building what would later become the Midi Fighter Pro controllers, so when he came to us asking for help building a Frankenstein MIDI guitar, our engineering team was up for the challenge. There are MIDI guitars out there, including the button-laden Kitara, but Amp wanted a guitar-shaped MIDI controller that went far beyond emulating the instrument. Watch him using a newer version of the controller in his recent Boiler Room LA set:

AURORA OPEN SOURCE DJ CONTROLLER

We’re a fan of any team that decides they want to do things better than anyone else – and that’s what Matt, Mike, and Maro aimed to do when designing the Aurora controller in 2008. The unit – which is still an opensource project that anyone can download the designs and specs to build themselves – featured unique backlit potentiometers and ambient lighting, both of which were software controllable via MIDI. As with many project controllers, it failed to gain much traction beyond passing interest online.

THE FRETLESS FADER

John Beez had an incredible idea for a crossfader that not only moved from left to right on a X axis, but also up and down on the Y axis to provide an additional level of control (in the video, it’s pitch, but it could also control effects and other parameters). The above video from 2010 was the last time John provided an update, just over a year after the original reveal of the project. It still seems like this would be a viable feature from a company like Vestax but so far, nothing has come of it.

MIDI FIGHTER MK2

A physical prototype (left) and concept renderings (right) for the Midi Fighter 3D that wasn’t to be

After the success of the Midi Fighter, we explored an expanded Midi Fighter with just one knob and fader. This prototype never made it past the design phase and instead became the Midi Fighter 3D with the analogue control coming from the unique motion sensors instead of physical components.

KENTON KILLAMIX ABLETON PROTOTYPE CONTROLLERS

Kenton’s protoypes: Pardon the resolution, these are video stills from 2006.

These prototype controllers were among the first MIDI controllers aimed at giving Ableton Live users dedicated controllers. UK-based Kenton finished both of these prototypes just in time to show at the Sounds Expo 2006 (watch the video of them being first presented here on SonicState), but only one of them ever made it to market – the smaller Killamix Mini on the left – and even then in only limited supply.

MODULAR DJTT CONCEPT

DJTT worked on building our own modular controller for a little while – with a form factor similar to the Allen & Heath K2 controller. Each module would slot into a slender bay, making them hot-swappable for dynamic DJ interfaces. Ultimately it proved difficult to make a modular controller affordable in this style, which is possibly why so many other modular concept controllers don’t make it on shelves.

MAWZER MODULAR DJ MIXER

The Mawzer (left), with some of the potential modular units (right)

Obviously we weren’t the first gearheads (or the last) to consider bringing the modular concept to digital DJing within a single form factor controller. That title is likely reserved for the team behind the Mawzer mixer, which promised the ultimate controller for modular aficionados – and was scheduled to see a complete public rollout in the summer of 2005. But cost (over $1300 just to get a basic setup) and size became a major issue for the unit – so much so that after numerous delays to the release, the project was canned.

PACEMAKER DJ SYSTEM

There have been a few forays into the world of new standalone DJ systems – and in 2006, the Pacemaker attempted to capitalize on the success of handheld devices like the iPod. The Pacemaker allowed manipulation of two tracks with the one device, with all of the normal mixing and transport controls built into the circular touch pad and ribbon strip just above it. There were major delays on the release of the unit, followed by a major price obstacle at launch (>$700) and of course one major complication: the smartphone revolution.

MIDI FIGHTER UNO

The UNO might be our most-spotted-in-the-background controller by commenters on YouTube in the last 8 months. Nearly everyone who walks through our studio instantly notices the single-button controller and exuberantly imagines its perfect use (we’ve heard: airhorn samples, triggers “the drop”, activating a club’s CO2 cannons, and more). We created it in response to a joke entry to our Midi Fighter X design competition, and will always hold a special place in the pantheon of controllers that almost were.

OTTO LOOP SLICER

This controller (and thesis project) was featured on DJTT back in 2009. Essentially the device is designed to allow simple manipulation of loops in a circular pattern around the controller. Using a MaxMSP program, the OTTO visualizes loops on LEDs under the surface of the controller, and then the buttons on the surface allow beat slicing and manipulation of the loop.

When we last checked in on the project, we had heard that the designer of Otto, Luca De Rosso, was looking to shop the device around as a potential partner unit in the future. A serious mockup of a controller with this exact design was spotted behind closed doors with a major manufacturer at NAMM 2012… perhaps there’s a future for the OTTO yet.

DJTT / BASSNECTAR PROTOTYPE MIDI FIGHTERS

Originally designed for Bay Area’s own Bassnectar, these large Midi Fighters were built to replace the M-Audio Trigger Fingers that graced Lorin’s DJ booth for years. Equipped with 30mm arcade buttons and MPC style spacing – this is the largest Midi Fighter in existence. Because our engineering team was deep in the middle of launching the Midi Fighter 3D and working on other products at the same time, we decided to pass the project on to our friends 60Works, who teamed up with Moldover to build the same design, in use on tour today.

Do you want one of these controllers? We’re actually giving away one (working) prototype at the end of this article.

TURNTABLE RIDER: BIKE AND DJ

Riding bikes and DJing go hand-in-hand, right? This project was sponsored by a Japanese bicycle sharing service, and while we’re pretty sure that the video was doctored to make it was more impressive, there’s no doubt that adding MIDI control to everyday objects like a bicycle is a pretty cool endeavor but never saw the light of day. Learn more about the project and its genesis in our original post back in April 2012.

WIN 2 RARE MIDI CONTROLLERS

We’ve got two awesome controllers to give away – the Bassnectar prototype Midi Fighter and the above-pictured Novation Dicers with a chrome finish and Ean’s signature (never commercially released). Just enter using the contest widget below:

i hope this was moderated after picking winners because Rafflecopter is not cheats-free….

jerremy

how do we know if we won??

Liam Roberts

Cant wait to see who wins

Tony Pagnillo

I really liked the idea of the Poco Poco. It seemed as if it would make playing it as fun for the dj, as it would be to hear it on set from the crowd.

RobPhonic

Keeping an eye out for the Poco Poco to happen!

andrewTwright

really would be sweet if i won everything would be in great use

Jerry

the poco poco and the midifighter mk2 are the best looking controllers

DjFIL

I loved my Pacemaker DJ, still have it. But Traktor DJ on iPhone has taken over for my mixing on the go. Especially due to the ability to sync metadata with Traktor on my MacBook Air.

Charly Charlzz

I love DJTT , I asked so much in my city music gear stores about midi fighters 3d’s that I was happy to see some around this year , it must be a sign that others then me have asked for some ans that there are fans in Geneva ;) I hope we will see some 3ds in the all Swizerland !
I have two suggestion for the midi fighters series :
(not that there is a need for it but ) :)
1st , what about a midi fighter that have a On-board sound card ?
2nd, a small ribon control to assign pitch Wheel of plug-in synths or to play the pads with pitch on a single sample ?!?
anyway the gyro was a great idear !

Liam Roberts

Sick givaway

Patric Scheffler

I´m very interested in these modular Setups, because every DJ would be able to make his own piece of equipment to use only what he really needs.
Behringer has started something like that but its not so good and not as modular as these concepts.
So i would really love to have something like that in a few years when its more than a concept.
A concept controller that defiantly should be here are the Touchboard project in witch you can draw your own controller! This is a very interesting idea!
And definatly the idea of Midi controller via iPad is very very interesting. Its actually like an modular setup with offers you amazing possibilities to make your own midi device!

What i really loved to have is these DJTT / BASSNECTAR PROTOTYPE MIDI FIGHTERS controller.
This would be perfect to trigger all my effects in Traktor with all these knobs for parameters and the buttons for stored effects! And i also could imagine to use it for the remix decks or for abelton i think you can go really creative with this think too!!
And it looks really nice!

Greets from Germany!

Ichi

would like to have a customized midi fighter 3d someday. if only this is possible :)

TheTayCray

Those midi fighters though, in for dat win XD

Efrazable

It’s called a midifighter pro, and they already sell them.

n8r0ck

no they dont. theyre gone for good.

Gingersteve

I’d love the Otto. Looks like it could allow non-scratching folk to cut and scratch on another level. You could turn a whole sample into a playable rhythmic instrument. Next level.

Bill

I’d love one of theese serious toys..!!..+1

Robert Rushing

+1 please! Any of those controllers would be rad!

andrewTwright

really would love getting the Mk 2, really nice design…

itzLORDiNFAMOUs

i would absolutely love to own a bassnectar prototype midi fighter..

Ayan Banerjee

Mawzer Modular DJ Mixer , because being Modular gives you that extra advantage to make changes in every performance/gig , add or spice up things with getting triggers , or maybe in some club environments , syncing the audio visuals all through one interface , and then its highly customisable too

bmac

I do believe that single button design to be the most versitile. I can’t stop thinking of the possibilities/endless hours of time wasting. Fun. Just seems fun.

a 4X midifighter made by a friend of me for me.
i make electro live on ableton and for my performance i make 4 classic bus (drum/bass/lead/fx&voices) and on each output i put a different izotope stutter edit with a custom patch dedicated to each bus (so a lot of fun , cause i play already with a xonedb2 , a livid instruments cntrlr a 8 voices korg midicontroller (the little black very cheap but so usefull) and nearly this awesome 4X midifighter (have already a 3D midifighter that i use too ))

Chris

Is your friend not interested in selling such a creation? It looks awesome and a bit crazy :) And you have a nice setup dude, don’t forget it’s not the pricey controllers that make the difference but how you use them!!!

Vader Trackerz

hello, no i don’t think he would like to produce other controllers like that, my friend is very busy and made me this for christmas cause he have to send back money to me^^.
don’t worry for my setup, he changes very often and i’m midi lover since 13 years now, each encoders or faders is used on my set up :)

Kyle

^That is AMAZING!!

Vader Trackerz

thank you ^^

DjTeknique

That Bassnectar MF is just amazing!!

Josh McDermott

Kenton Killamix mini. I like smooth knobs and illuminated. It is for sale, quite a premium for that quality. Thinking Lemur with this!

Alexis

the poco poco it´s just awesome

Thomas Ash

Love the dicer! Useful & handy.

HexValue

I wish they would have released the Midi Fighter Bassnectar one as like a limited edition model or something.

Prof_Strangeman

It was.

Sergi Martínez

I definetely LOVE the Mawzer concept… It’s perfect. And the modular DJTT Concept seems to be very interesting (as you can see, i love modular shit…;))

synaxis

I would like the Poco Poco or the DJTT/Bassnectar.

Mutis Mayfield

The whirlwind replicator (RZA conspiracy) and midi fighter before controllerism…

Now, no kidding… 4×4 round push buttons for making sampling control of the turntable… It isn’t remix decks base? It is not the part of this in my pic an early midi fighter?

Turntablism? Controllerism? Mmmmmmm… 1995 and digital vinyl. Funny.

Ezmyrelda

Gahhhh I want those chromed Dicers so bad. They are sick!

Alfred

the dicers and the bassnectar/DJTech midi fighters are so sick!

Charles Maublanc

Numark MPC DJ insead of new tracktor s4 can be a better choice.
What about the reactable ? i know that’s not a concept for now, but it can have a place here.

Patch

Goddamn I want those chrome Dicers…….!

Trystan Rose

I think the Numark MPC DJ is the best. Funny thought, that a lot of new controllers have performance pads

Ryan Sullivan

The modular DJTT concept is great, although I understand the expense involved.
I just wish someone would design an all in one solution for ableton live still. The apc40 is still the closest I’ve seen for mix control and clip launching. Still need to checkout Push properly but it looks like it’s mainly for sequencing.

Prof_Strangeman

I own two of the Bassnectar Midi Fighters. They are so totally amazing! Maybe I’ll win a third! :D

ThePhanatik116

Oh gosh, those Midi Fighter Mk2′s. The model customization of the Midi Fighter Classic/Spectra with the LED buttons of the Spectra/3D? DJTT, PLEEEASE continue working on this product. Don’t get me wrong, I love the MF3Ds, but for those who love to mess with faders and knobs, this could be a really fun piece of equipment.

andrewTwright

That BN controller is so sick! Ever since the first time i saw him with it I just had to know where i could get one…

http://www.ThisIsBassick.com/ Bassick

that bass nectar controller. damn son, where’d you find this :O.

DJ_ForcedHand

Strangely, I think the MPC DJ and Poco Poco would work well right now… they were probably just a little ahead of their time.

sadness

I am infinitely disappointed the aurora mixer died.

lyninx

i’m selling a couple of units that i built if you’re interested!
contact: dennis@lyninx.com

meeeeee

aww man — no mention of the most immense production flop in the history of high end — THE ALLEN AND HEATH XONE VALVE V6 and MODULAR CROSSFADER ASSEMBLY — i would actually buy one now.

Zense

I always loved the Numark MPC Dj and i was the owner of a Ns7 when i heard about Akai and Numark so i was specting something like that,

Stewe

Not just dicers are rare but would also finally could help to Patch with some traktor mappings.:)

chris

your pic looks like the quneo

Dan White

It’s actually his entry into the Midi Fighter X design contest I believe.

Stewe

Actually it was one that I made for fun – ended up having more feedback than my real entries. The idea indeed comes form quneo that I had as my old avatar in forums.

defenetley the fretless crossfader. it would give turntabalist routines a whole other axis to work with, without moving their hand

Joanne Lynn Benjamin

while the MIDI FIGHTER MK2 looks nice I wouldn’t mind the DJTT / BASSNECTAR PROTOTYPE MIDI FIGHTER as a vision impaired deejay i could see it on my studio desk and I do have the room

http://soundcloud.com/tos Tomislav Simi? ToS

Just came back to say, nice article. Haven’t seen text this long on DJTT for a while.

Herr Snigel

There was a video of the Poco Poco uploaded a week ago, and in the comments they said that they’re concidering crowd funding!

corneilius

The Otto Loop Slicer could have changed reality as we know it. Live glitchop performances could have really benefited from this bad boy. We exist on an alternate time line and Dr Who and/or Dr (Doc) Brown are hurtling through space and time to correct the space time continuum to a reality including the Otto; while we soar aimlessly into the oblivion of an Otto free existence.

LER

Really wish I could see the fretless fader used by some big time artists, like DJ Abilities. That would be so practical and make for some really intricate cuts!

Robert Wulfman

Midi fighter twister kind of replaces the poco poco doesn’t it

Herr Snigel

Honestly, the twister doesn’t look as cool…

konradical

Personally, I’d like to see any kind of modular controller come to life with the option of customizing a module from off the shelf parts.

There’s one midi controller that was kind of interesting that I actually have a prototype of somewhere in storage. I can’t remember the name offhand but it was the days before USB, maybe 96-97. You would wear it like a guitar but it had this weird shape, kind of like a flying V guitar cut in half lengthwise. there were two pads that you could play like if you were playing slap bass and i think 8 membrane buttons at the top of the neck piece. The button would define the midiCC or note and the thumbpads would send the midi on/off/velocity signals. I think there were only a few dozen or so of these made and AFAIK they never went into mass production.

Onno Suave

WOW – The BASSNECTAR PROTOTYPE MIDI FIGHTERS really looks perfect!

Perhaps a bit big, but other then that…it seems to be anything & everything I would ever need to complete / compliment all kinds of DJ-setups:

examples one: as an add-one controller for the S2
- The BN Prototype MD could be used for extended cue point / remix deck control,
to control the individual Deck-filters (since the S2 doesn’t offer control of the cue point + remixeslots at the same time and is missing deckfiltercontrols) & Keys as well as FX-Units 3 & 4

example 2: as an add one controller for the Z2 or for a regular Traktor DVS Setup
- In this scenario I’d also use the The BN Prototype MD for (extended) cue point / remix deck control, to control the individual Deck-filters & Keys as well extended control over the FX-Units (since the Z2 f.ex.only offers on set of control for one slot per FX-Unit).
Furthermore if one wasn’t using a hybrid midi-mixer such as the Z2 one could of course also map sync and other functions to the controller!

Really wish that one was for sale!!

Anywho, as for what you guys missed…..hhm…

WELL, one controller that I totally dig, but that never made ist to mass production and only seems to be available in Japan is the PICratchBOX:

Other than that, I’d love for Korg to make a Korg Zero 4mk2 as well as for Mackie to make mk2 versions of the d2/d4 mixers!
I doubt it but…..one can always dream!

Prof_Strangeman

I own two of the other existing prototype Bassnecter Fighters. They are awesome.

joyner

i want the uno!!!

DJCataract

I’d say the NS7II was the final design for the MPCDJ, they just changed the location of the pads :P

Chris

Midi Fighter Pro with more encoders and faders, that’s in my opinion the way to go!
The Midi Fighter MK2 is not an innovation, it seems like a cheaper built MFPRO with fewer controls!!! I really miss the metal casing…

Edward Midgley

Would have bought a Midifighter MK2

halfheard

The otto loop slicer would be a fine addition to the madness.
dj halfheard

Jake Hale

I was seriously hoping for something like the MFmk2… with RGB buttons. I thought it was inevitable.

Anski

Why does it always have to be flat? Some ergonomically-curved surface covered in arcade buttons might be kind of beautiful.

sean

The Numark MPC DJ looked dope, and was hyped a lot- it’s a shame it never made it to the market, I’ve seen a lot of DJs haul MPCs and turntables to throw both into a set; that would’ve made it easier for them

David Mantel

I’m so stoked you guys still have that Uno. My finest hour, to be sure. You guys are rad for continuing to bring it up.

Dmob

It would be really cool if you guys did some sort of midi controller workshop to teach to shed some insight on the controller building process

Stephen Stecker

I really wish a commercial version of Amplive’s Guitar Fighter was available through DJTT. It not only has that “wow factor,” but also would be great for live performances. All too often DJs are staying down at their controllers or laptops, missing out on opportunities to face and interact with the crowd. After seeing Ean do this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb1OERPm3LY, I was hoping to make or grab one myself. It’s not too late DJTT!

Andrew Orlov

Hi, Ean! Hi everybody! First of all I think you must create a MidiFighter MK2. Back to oldschool. BUT. Please, add some faders and knobs into MF. For example< I think the most ergonomic controller is M-Audio Trigger Finger. Cause you have 4 faders for trakcs volume and 8 knobs for FX. That means you can use it with different software like Traktor for 4 decks control, Ableton in the same way. If you can build universal controller, I think it will be great. Just add to MF Spectra 4 faders, 8 knobs and 4 buttons for banks. And of course you must build really good software, like Livid uses.

Thank you and good luck!

Prashan DubStep Pillai

The MIDI FIGHTER MK2 would be the one i would want to bring to life.

With that being said, this whole article gave me an idea for turning the MIDI FIGHTER MK2 into the MIDI FIGHTER Total Control (MFTC). it would become the one stop controller that can do it all as far as Traktor Pro Dj is concerned.

I’ve included a badly photoshopped pic to explain my madness, but for starters i would change the volume fader to a Vmeter and change the knob into 4 mini buttons that could be used to trigger decks/change active deck. I would add in the MF3D motion, and add in a sound card with a master out, headphone out and a mic in/monitor out with a switch and you have the perfect controller.

The Set up of the rest for Traktor would go as follows:
The 4 rectangular button on the top can be used as a 4 bank select. What this means is when you are in deck 3 or 4 you have a ready to go remix deck and when in deck 1 or 2 you have 3 banks of effects and the 4th bank can be used as (bottom set of 8 arcade buttons for 8 cue point triggers, the next set of 4 arcade buttons can be used for loop intervals, and last but not least the top 4 arcade buttons can be used as [from right to left - Play, Cue, sync/flux mode, shift]). The 4th bank that i mentioned will be the default active bank for all decks only difference when deck 3 and 4 are active all the buttons are in remix deck mode so the first bank is the first page, second back is the second page so on and so forth. The VMeter would be able to reset to each decks volume and a nice visual vu meter on the controller makes it all the better. The right and left motion controls the dry/wet for effects and the forwards and back motion will control the filter for the active deck.

I think if you had this on sale tomorrow you guys would out sell all the other “full size controllers” fosho.

Its weird how inspiration works. ~ Dj Stolen Words

Paddway

That Numark MPC DJ would have been so sick if it had of came out!’

Kai

I always thought that it would be cool to have a potentiometer that also pushed down like a button, and the PocoPoco is almost that. I could definitely see using it in a creative way… but that Otto – that looks bloody phenomenal. Too bad it’s not being developed, or I’d totally be on that.

Joe Carroll

Not a controller, but still an awesome device that didn’t catch on – the Red Sound “InFader” DJ mixer, with xfaders for high, mids and lows. I still have one, and would totally use it if I ever ditch the controller for physical media again.

Livid

Slight correction, the Bass Nectar controllers he uses now are custom units Livid Instruments designed based off of the 60 works controller, which was based of the DJTT controller ;)

http://www.richddt.com/ Rich DDT

And a further clarification on the history of the Bassnectar controller – ill Gates introduced Moldover to Lorin independently from Ean & DJTT. Moldover then got the commission from Bassnectar and invited Dave Cross from 60-Works to help and share credit. The story about it on the 60 Works website is very accurate: http://blog.60works.com/archives/678

The modular MIDI controller looks interesting! Actually it is what I have been looking for some time :)

Kino

I’ve wanted that fretless fader for SO LONG

Josh Crow

As much as I love Bassnectar, I love that controller even more. That is a beautiful piece of kit.

Prof_Strangeman

I can testify that they are beautiful.

Chris

Amazing!!! If you decide to sell one, i would buy :)

DJ HID

+1

Tom Wenger

looks like a DJTT version of the F1

Jacob Stadtfeld

Did you decide to sell one of these, good sir? Because I just ordered one.

Vader Trackerz

a friend of me is making for me a 4Xmidifighter ,will post photos when finish ^^

Rene Bosland

Anything modular would be nice. Every DJ works different, so why use standard mixers or controllers?!

GetCarter

Lovin the Midi Fighter Mk2, A nice clean & simple design everything the Midi Fighter stands for in my opinion, Would have defo grabbed one of theses……………

JD

+1 for this.. Would love one of these

opadave

Another +1, clean and simple…

LongTimeGuest

I would trade in my MF3D for one of these in a heartbeat!

LongTimeGuest

I would use that fader as a tempo fader for when having to transition between songs of different tempos. I tried using the motion control on the MF3D to control tempo and it was kind of cumbersome to get the tempo exactly where i wanted it. But having a tempo fader knob to go with the MF3D would make it more complete to control a single deck.

Marcel Mono

And another +1, the motion on the MF3D is a bit over the top sometimes. I would love to lay my hands on one of those MfMK2 :)

GuestoTheGuestRobot

+1

guest01

i hope this was moderated after picking winners because Rafflecopter is not cheats-free. I hate that “app’..

BartOsh

Totaly agree, Imagine this as club mixer replacement with 4 chanel line faders and x-fader. DVS users could have just this one in between players/turntables.

Chris

Yeahhhhhh that’s the point BartOsh!
Personally i think the Midi Fighter Pro is one of the best controllers that i own because of its build quality and all the possibilities that it gives but i always thought that more encoders and faders could simplify the life of many of us!

BartOsh

Exactly!, Like on Numark MPC – central mixer section only – but built by DJTT. Definitely would be the weapon of my chioce

Chris

That would be awesome…

Chris

The DJTT Bassnectar Prototype is the craziest controller i ever saw, i would kill to have one of these in my set up :)

Cheers guys

Chris

Prof_Strangeman

They’re baller my friend! I own two of the other prototypes! :) Hope you win!

Chris

You are a lucky man, but how do you got them? If they take too much space on your desk, i can help you and grab one of your hands :P

Prof_Strangeman

DJTT had them in the “Clearance” section of the store. I just happened upon them and scooped them with some graduation present money. They are HUUUGE, I love them too much tho. ;)

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