The argument is that we need these guns to protect ourselves from tyrannical government, and it never seems to occur to anybody that that means a shootout with police. What happened in Waco is exactly what was supposed to happen.

As someone who lives in Texas, I am not a fan of the gun laws, and definitely not a fan of where they are headed. That being said, technically, the law isn’t so much “more guns!” but “you no longer have to hide your guns!” Even though it’s not “more guns,” I think it’s a bad idea as it’ll make dealing with situations like this Waco shootout that much more confusing, especially for first responders, if there are a lot more visible weapons.

At least the amendment about making it illegal for the police to ask to see your permit got stripped (at least, I think I heard that was the case).

A website widely read by bikers called "The Aging Rebel" has published an alternative account of what happened during Sunday’s bloody shootout in Waco, Texas. The article titled The Waco Police Massacre brings out a number of details not previously...

A guy i know put it very well (i was not smart enough to write this)

The truth is always in the middle, as the saying goes. You put 22 year olds in SWAT gear on “standby” in a parking lot, add 300 or so bikers and throw in some Busty Beer Servers and you’ve get what happened: A(nother) Disaster In Waco.

Personally I don’t like open carry. I get it. Like 99.99%+ of the people with guns aren’t going to hurt you. It is an attempt expose and normalize and make things less scary because most peoples’ exposure to guns is pure fantasy, or bad things on the news. I mean you don’t freak out if you see a cop at a store with a gun (well, some people do). That is normalized in most people’s mind.

But in generally the OC movement has come off as attention whores and their lack of diplomacy turns people off. That and if there is someone around with the intent to do harm, they put a big target on their backs.

That said, such laws aren’t going to make crime worse. Do you think if the restaurant had a “no weapons” sign that fight wouldn’t have happened?

The ideal state promises justice, fairness, and equality, base qualities that no individual human can be expected to degrade themselves with. Better that these individuals be able to impose their divine will, their divine pride, their divine jealousies upon their world without the tyrannical impulses of the state to dissuade them from their holy mission.

I “liked” your post not because I agree with you, but because it is refreshing to see a personal viewpoint on the matter, rather than just the same regurgitated two sets of talking points over and over again.

the truth is most certainly not “always in the middle.” Facts are facts and someone making conspiratorial claims to the contrary doesn’t suddenly mean they’re in doubt. I speak not of this particular instance but it of the fallacy of the “compromise truth.”

Walter: The shit you cook is shit. I saw your set-up. Ridiculous. You and I will not make garbage. We will produce a chemically pure and stable product that performs as advertised. No adulterants. No baby formula. No chili powder.