It was the only one they used in Wrath of Khan. That one didn't give me the impression of a neon toy flying in space. The poorly lit and stark military look was awesome. Some people complained about it and so in Search For Spock, we got this 3D computer graphic Enterprise that was was bright as the sun on snow.

My fave Star Trek starship is the original Excelsior (NXS-1000, I think?) Although they had to make it look really stoopid... remember the scene where the captain of the Excelsior couldn't get the transwarp drive to work, and Kirk got away with the freshly built Enterprise? They made a really cool starship look like a piece of shit, just so Kirk could look like a badass.

On another note, what were they smoking when they came up with the Enterprise D? That thing is butt-ugly. (no offense, LiquidCache)

I actually like the ships from Star Wars a lot better. They look so much more realistic. I agree with Webslacker on the "military" look. The ships in Star Wars don't glow in the dark.

But, I'd have to say that the most awesome starship I've seen in any sci-fi flick is the black spider-looking ships in Babylon5. Those ships are so kewwwwwl that I actually found myself rooting for the Dark Ones in some of the space battles!!!

Just MHO,--The Freaking Fiero Boy

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im kinda partial to the romulan ships, the go the fastests, and can still pu the hurt on... plus there green. as for a any show, i really thought the black "spiderish" ships from Babylon 5 were pimp.. plus that show has a better concept of space existance, or so i feel. ..

You never get a good look at it, but I kind of liked the sheliak colony ship in the ST:TNG episode Ensigns of Command. (I don't really know all the episodes' names, I just mentioned it to a trekkie friend once...)

Call me crazy, but I thought the Romulan ships were "Warbirds" and the Klingon ships were "Birds of Prey." Call me crazy!

I think that the "roaming" phaser bank tracks on the D were cool because they gave a more "realistic" omni-directional firing. Of course "Generations" was the lamest way to get rid of the D, or was it the E?

Of the movies, I think either Wrath of Kahn or Undiscovered Country were the best overall flicks!

Sorry , I have to go with the original Enterprise with Kirk , the baddest captain of all time.No nonsence basic starship, plus it broke occasionally, which everything does, and we had scotty to fix it.Those new ships are all glitter.Plus don't you have to have the drive units away from the ship or thte crew will be fried from radiation from the engines.

The Romulans and the Klingons both had ships named "Bird of Prey". The Romulan Bird of Prey's were only in the Orignal Series, so most people don't know much about them. The Romulans also took the Klingon BattleCrusier design in TOS also, which you can see in "The Enterprise Incident".

quote:Originally posted by ffieroboy:My fave Star Trek starship is the original Excelsior (NXS-1000, I think?) Although they had to make it look really stoopid... remember the scene where the captain of the Excelsior couldn't get the transwarp drive to work, and Kirk got away with the freshly built Enterprise? They made a really cool starship look like a piece of shit, just so Kirk could look like a badass.[This message has been edited by ffieroboy (edited January 27, 2000).]

I liked the Enterprise of the future that was used in the final episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation...the episode where Geordi could actually see, and Riker I think was captain. It had like 3 Warp coils or whatever they call the blue jet engine looking things...and it could do Warp 13. Sorry, I'm not a Trekkie!

quote:I liked the Enterprise of the future that was used in the final episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation...the episode where Geordi could actually see, and Riker I think was captain. It had like 3 Warp coils or whatever they call the blue jet engine looking things...and it could do Warp 13. Sorry, I'm not a Trekkie!Someone tell me which one that was?

In the Star Trek Birth of the Fedaration game, they refer to it as a the Dreadnaught class (Modified Galaxy-X class)

I thought it was just the Enterprise-D pressed into service and upgraded/upgunned due to the Klingon hostilities. But I could be wrong... We see a lot of old Excelsior models ferrying around Admirals in Next Generation, so that would be consistant with Adm. Riker flying around in an older Galaxy Class at the time of the final episode...

And of course I gotta support B5. They came up with some cool and creative designs like the Vorlon Squid and the Minbari Shark and the Shadow Spider and the Centauri Bird designs, not just rehashing the "2 warp nacelles hanging off to the sides of that race-with-the-funny-forehead's standard body type".

Tho my B5 fav were the big Narn crusiers with the funky striped paint jobs. They look quite intimidating. And of course the Whitestars...

For the record, the romulans did have a bird of prey, it was the one with a falcon on the bottom. It was only in TOS. Now, the only romulan ships you see are the Scout ships (Little ones) and the Romulan Warbirds (D'Deridex class) Warbirds actually have equal firepower to the Enterprise D..

Ok, now whats the ugliest/stupidest ship you've ever seen.. I think the ugliest one i've ever seen was the Pasteur, from the last STTNG episode 'All good things' Remember? Capitan Beverly Picard? Anyways, that thing looked sooo stupid it's not even funny... The original shuttles from the Enterprise D (First year) looked waaaaaaay ugly too..

Heh, all I can think of for bad designs is in BattleStar Galactica. These god-like dudes flew around in this big glowing crystalline ship that would sneak up behind our heros and abduct them. Looked really bad, but it was the 70's after all.

Trek ships don't really look bad, other than the Pasteur. Like I said, they tend to have the same basic configuration. Tho I persoanlly think the Excelsior class ships look like giant bathtubs. They are kinda lame.

Between the Original Series and the Next Generation, the Warp system was readjusted so that Warp 10 was infinite speed, Warp 1 the speed of light, and the rest a curve. I think Warp 9 is 1,516 times the speed of light, but it's been a bit since I read the ST:TNG Technical Manual (gotta love the book).

I've gotta say, how can you NOT like the borg ships? DAMN! As for calling warbirds birds of prey, its cuz the romulans and klingons had a great sharing of technology a couple hundred years back. Or at least that is/was my understanding of it. I haven't watched a Star Trek episode in a while since those bastards moved Voyager to a time that I couldn't watch it.

The Dreadnaught class has been around for a long time. I have some books from the early eighties where they discuss it pretty in depth. It is in storage right now, but I could get it out this weekend if I remember to.