ANC challenging hate speech judgment

"We are challenging the decision. We are waiting for the lawyers to go through the judgment... and advise us on the best legal route to take," he said.

On Monday, Judge Colin Lamont ruled that ANC Youth League president Julius Malema's singing of the song constituted hate speech.

The singing of the words "awudubule ibhunu" (shoot the boer) and "dubula amabhunu baya rayipha" (shoot the boers, they rape) was outlawed.

Words were powerful weapons that could lead to disastrous actions, and even genocide, Lamont said in the South Gauteng High Court in Johannesburg, sitting as the Equality Court.

Civil rights body AfriForum brought the complaint against Malema, who sang the words at several events last year.

The ANC supported Malema in his court fight.

Comments

phillip.havenga - 2011-09-13 21:22

So the ANC has just openly admitted that they support hate speech and in so doing are condoning the possibility of genocide, as the two are linked and the one is the start of the path to the other.

myancmyfutur - 2011-09-13 21:29

we are of the opinion that another court can come to a different conclusion its not like Judge Lamont's assumptions cannot be questioned. We will end up at Judge Moegoeng's door step if possible.

DoublySalmon - 2011-09-13 21:45

Do all Boere get refugee status now?

THE-SRG - 2011-09-13 21:49

The singing of the words "awudubule ibhunu" (shoot the boer) and "dubula amabhunu baya rayipha" (shoot the boers, they rape) was outlawed........funny how news twenty four posts these words in their articles week after week but the second i mention the same words with black in place of boer i get banned and have to start a new account

what.next - 2011-09-13 21:55

So in other words you're going to keep asking the question until you like the answer. Two courts have found it to be hate speech. Amazing that the ANC can't look beyond the end of their nose for a moment to realise that people are genuinly hurt by this song. History is in the past, you have to work with the context of the times.. And you have also admitted that Moegoeng is corruptable and favours the ANC. Nice.

Sit-hole - 2011-09-13 22:00

Wouldn't it be nice instead of BEEstupid, the government set up an incentive for white people who are leaving SA with government funding. They can be racist and make every one happy. Its win win. Id hop on that gravy train. (includes Beors/farmers with compensation & all minorities Indians)Costly but shouldnt be a prob cos SA government wastes money anyway.

Mark Stevenson - 2011-09-13 22:00

Tonight a black 15yr old just crashed into my car. His mom was right next to him. When he crashed into me she got out and started shouting stuff like your white a..hole etc I said nothing and just sat in my car. She then approached my car and kicked and damaged it. We called the Police and when they arrived she told them one thing “ I called her a Black B..ch” . They did not care about the 15yr old driving, her damaging my car, her calling me racist names, NOTHING, they arrested me on the spot regardless of it all being lies and me trying to tell them that. WHAT A JOKE! IF you are white, get out, we all love this country but you will be more welcome in almost any other country worldwide then here!

Colin - 2011-09-13 22:01

i wonder if max du preez and the other liberals are willing to admit the anc is a racist organization hell bent on destroying sa yet?

Schalk - 2011-09-13 22:02

"Shoot the boers, they rape"
1. In which universe would the governing political party go to court to defend this terribly insulting chant?
2. I wish there were some statistics comparing the number of rapes per boer to the number of rapes per shoot-the-boer-singer...
3. Can you not see how terribly divisive these lyrics are? It can only make people fight. It can have no other effect.
4. Just imagine you are a black child, influenced by the ANCYL chanting this song over and over. What would be this do to your thought processes...?
5. And finally: boers are officially level 6 on genocidewatch.org. Level 7 is extermination. How can you ... why ... jeez ... words fail me.

- Here we go - The rainbow nation is officially dead my fellow South Africans. While we all hoped for the best, the worst has come to pass.
Thanks to an evil Anc, with sinister motives there is no future for whites . For those fortunate enough to leave, start making your plans.
Let this Anc and all it's supporters have their banana republic. I dont want any part of it.

cliffarc - 2011-09-13 22:24

- Let's hear it from all those liberal , apartheid apologists now.
Funny thing about them , they are usuaaly the first to flee in times of trouble.

Mtibane - 2011-09-13 22:52

Dangerous, very dangerous for all minority groups - this could spell out that the ruling ANC condones reversed racism! I believe this is the complete opposite of what Mr Mandela instituted when democracy was instituted in 1994. The ANC has completely lost all credibility from the minority groups. Minority groups trouble is on its way, Constitution beware, your time is up, you will be rewritten - who in their right minds will invest in South Africa now? The irony is that the money from foreign investment will be withdrawn and this will lead to no jobs, so much for the ANC's upliftment of the poor, they contradict themselves on their policy of job creation. Then again when the poor become poorer the time will be conducive to a full scale revolution in South Africa leading to the genocide of all minority groups - is there nobody out there that can see the outcome of this foolish move!!

slg - 2011-09-14 02:08

The purity of the ANC Freedom Charter is being corrupted by this arrogance and ignorance.

d2eguy - 2011-09-14 08:25

so much for the ANC asking for all South Africans to work together for peace yet the ANC is so racist they can`t even respect the boers or Afrikaans speaking South Africans by abiding with the courts decision on not to sing that disgusting song . the money used for fighting the court decision could of fed or educated how many needy ? the ANC and ANCYL have proved to the world they are nothing more than small minded uneducated RACIST thugs .

Baddy - 2011-09-14 09:00

F*^K the ANC, they just made me lose the last bit of respect I had left for them. They can all go and jump off a cliff now....

chat-chat - 2011-09-14 11:44

Jesse Duarte defended their right to sing this "struggle" song by equating it with the Voortrekker monument. Well. I am a white person, have never been to the Monument, which I also think is ugly, so criticize away if you wish. I don't think that anywhere in the Monument, that songs are sung suggesting that black people should be killed & that they rape? I have lost family members who were bludgeoned to death on their farm. Horrid, racist, anti-white comments were written on the walls in their blood. One cannot expect much from the ANCYL rabble, but that the senior ANC leaders defend this song is disgraceful and shows just how little regard they have for the white citizens of this country. Don't forget, ALL white people are regarded as Boers by a large sector of our black population - as I have been told many times by my numerous black friends, most of whom also think the song's time is over.

Gina - 2011-09-14 15:27

Philipp, look what is happening to the small nation called Israel. They have thrived and made themselves a great nation amongste all who hate her, and this is the problem in South Africa, with the white nation, instead of working with us they are working against us knowing that we are one of the nations achievers. They think the country they are rapeing got here on its own. They do not realise that it takes intelligence and knowledge to run a country and look after its people. They cannot even look after the white nation that is here at the moment, how are they going to look after the other millions. Stealing and stuffing their pockets, making sure that they and their families are okay is bringing disaster to this land

Scorpion - 2011-09-13 21:23

So the sun really is setting on the rainbow nation.

Yoni - 2011-09-13 21:33

Thank you ANC, let the Concourt settle this once and for all.
If they rule that someone singing a song that advocates murder against a certain minority group is in order and only freedom of expression, so be it.
The whole world is watching...

Banned - 2011-09-13 22:15

It never rose here. At what point was SA a truly democratic country run by true patriots with only the welfare of the people at heart. Change for All my A$$

cliffarc - 2011-09-13 22:20

- The members of the concourt are nothing more than Anc puppets. The decision will be overturned.

LuLuBug - 2011-09-13 21:24

Why do u think Zuma went and got his mate made TOP judge??? Despite a huge outcry?? Because......he could come in very useful in cases like this!

myancmyfutur - 2011-09-13 21:27

Judge Lamont thought this song is about Malema but it has been sung for over 30yrs. Liberation songs are truly not about attacking any race but this is part of our culture. This is one ruling we need to appeal because our history cannot be wiped out just like that.

mzanzirules - 2011-09-13 21:34

Hahahahaha don't even know your own history my friend

Worker - 2011-09-13 21:38

Wake up - there are people who don't like certain words, and these are banned. Why would anyone in his right mind like such provocative words ?

First48 - 2011-09-13 21:42

You are writing you own history now myancmyfutur, are you and you friends proud of your achievements? You actually sound like a pretty sensible guy, how can you not see South Africa is going down the pan?

THE-SRG - 2011-09-13 21:45

here you sit condoning a song to kill the boer....maybe one day people will be singing a different tune and you and your people will be on the receiving end...how would you react then when those people say its their heritage?....will you sit back and except it?

CTatheist - 2011-09-13 21:45

2011 - 1990 = 21. Do the maths.

crackerr - 2011-09-13 21:45

Nobody is wiping out history or rewriting history. These are false propaganda.
If you were part of a group whose destruction was being chanted with the zeal we have witnessed you would also be concerned. And this by a person in the leading role who has openly declared war against the group and advertises for the whole world his military style beret.
The judgement is available online and people should study it for themselves instead of just believing the shallow propaganda by the ANC.
Nowhere in the world will a government with good intentions permit some of its people to chant / sing for the killing of the others. History and culture do not justify it.
Also note that the judge made it clear that words do have meaning and that times change. He also dealt with the process of how genocides can be triggered. Not out of his personal speculations but based on solid authority referred to in the judgement.

pants - 2011-09-13 21:51

culture needs to grow and change with the times. we are not saying wipe out the history of struggle. only saying lyrics and people like Malema have no place in our democracy. especially in such a young one where violence and hatred is so prevalent. Please think about it.

Proefleser - 2011-09-13 21:56

myancmyfutur - part of your culture? No, shooting Boers is not your culture. Warring with other tribes, maybe, but not shooting Boers. That is a very recent innovation.

Lifespring - 2011-09-13 21:57

Tell us myanc'myfutur' what is your future. A country riddled with criminals who dont hesitate to kill you for a dollar. Laws that are made and not policed. Inciting of racial hatred to all who dont agree with ANC. The ANC is a racist party and thats what your future holds. No peace No freedom No rainbow nation. Take a GOOD look at your history by looking at the condition of the rest of Africa.

myancmyfutur - 2011-09-13 22:04

@CTatheist, I've known the song since 1984 and that's 27 yrs,
@First48, which friends of mine are you referring to?
@Crackeer, When Peter Mokoba chanted "Kill the Boer" in 1995, former Pres de Klerk spoke to the ANC Pres Mandela and raised concerns and within a week Peter and all structures of the ANC were asked to stop that chant. I still beleive that if Afriforum could have approched the ANC rather than getting into mud tussling with Juju.

sniperman - 2011-09-13 22:05

Do you know anything about history?? or do you care to ignore facts?? The end of the Rivonia trial saw a lot of people sent to Robbing Island. Why??
Had this not happened we would have seen genocide in this country of everything that was not African. The only reason this genocide would not have equalled the holocast during the 2nd world war was that there not 6 million whites in this country.

Mark Stevenson - 2011-09-13 22:18

Lol you are funny myancmyfutur becuase you justed wiped out 400 years of white history and pretend anything white never happend! So it goes both ways!!!

JasunX - 2011-09-13 22:28

It was part of non-Black culture to call Blacks the K-word back then, so is it ok to use the K-word?

JasunX - 2011-09-13 22:34

I'm asking u p**s... You're standing up for a song that calls to kill people based on their race.

First48 - 2011-09-13 22:36

@ myancmyfutur - In response to your question @First48, which friends of mine are you referring to?
Your friends that also support hate speech. Now answer my original question please.

tk - 2011-09-13 22:40

@myancmyfutur: Seems like you missed some news, they did try to solve this with politics with ANCYL regarding the song, but ANCYL basically ran the white people out like dogs and wanted nothing to do with them and stopping the singing of the song. Then they went to court.

JasunX - 2011-09-13 22:48

SA is going down the drain. Can't even get support on a faulty Blackberry Playbook. A Thought just struck me, I'm going to call it, a KBerry Playbook! K as in...well... ;)

First48 - 2011-09-13 22:52

@myancmyfutur, you say that your branch decided to stop singing the song out of concern but also think it it harmless? That doesn't make sense, care to clarify?
I'm not sure why you are talking about the "corruption" issue. That at this stage is peanuts compared to what is on the horizon.

Protest - 2011-09-14 06:53

Judge Lamont made it clear in his judgement that liberation songs are flexible and the words change according to circumstances.
The current Malema version of the song carries no historical value and is plainly hate-speech.
If the ANC wants to preserve the history of the struggle, then they have to be historically accurate.

Pottie - 2011-09-14 07:19

@myancmyfutur, So you say kill the boer is good, then most other people say that the hated K can be on all lips again, cause this is whats going to happen if kill the boer is over turned by a court then the hated K word will be heard again would the anc and your friends be happy? dont think so and the courts cant say then its is hate speech cause they approved it

CTatheist - 2011-09-14 07:54

Liar pants on fire

John Right - 2011-09-14 08:33

" truly not about attacking any race but this is part of our culture. This is one ruling we need to appeal because our history cannot be wiped out just like that."
Well looking at it this way it was part of your culture for 400 years to eat pap with your hands ... why not hold true to your statements then and eat it still with your hands? O YE because you became civilized.
If you want to hold on to your culture so much then go live in the bush before the white man set foot in SA because that's your true culture and then you can be like animals all over again.
And now you cry oooo you're a rasist ... Great. I'll say I am when you say you're one too.

Lab-Rat - 2011-09-14 09:11

You can't just make up history as you go along to suit your own agenda's. The world needs to move forward and if you don't want to become civilised then it's your perogative but please don't try and drag other people down with you. Thank you.

Embee - 2011-09-14 14:50

So, it seems that our (white) struggle is about to begin. I think that this calls for some of our own Liberation songs to be created and sung. I wonder how that will go down if were to include the line "kill the *insert party/race name here*, they rape"?

Willem - 2011-09-13 21:30

This is typically "New" South African: The ruling party insists on singing a song calling for the murder of a minority group...

PinkAndProud - 2011-09-13 21:41

Just goes to show how threatened they are by us.

Banned - 2011-09-13 22:16

The new SA is starting to look a lot like the old one.

First48 - 2011-09-13 21:30

All I can say to my fellow white South Africans still in South Africa is stick together, make plans to keep safe and if you can get the hell out of there!!

Frans Smith - 2011-09-13 21:38

yip done it, manage dto get out 5 months ago - my stepdad just got his passport today. my daughter should have hers this week.
huge sacrifices, but neccessary - no other choice?

First48 - 2011-09-13 21:56

I always planned to go back Frans and dreamt about it often. It is difficult and a shock to the system but a quick read online to see the chaos in SA brings me back down to earth!! I hope all goes well for you and your family boet.

sa4ever - 2011-09-13 22:03

@ First 48 and frans smith, why is it that when white people leave the country they always brag about it to white people still living here. And then u say if u can get out, most white people can get out but they choose not to!! I am a 27 year old CA with one of the big 4 auditing firms that have offices all around the world, so u can leave SA tommorrow if I wish to and a lot of people can, but we choose to stay here, in this country we love and are trying to make a difference in peoples lives here even if it is just by giving food to people who need help. U think live is about living in a 1st world country bla bla bla, open your eyes and see the suffering in the world and if u are lucky enough to live in a place like africa you can change the lives of one or two of your fellow south africans. i am more satisfied with doing that, than living in a 1st world country with my eyes closed for what live is realy all about!! Not just running away like you lot!

First48 - 2011-09-13 22:14

@sa4ever - Nobody is telling you to leave and nobody is bragging. Stay if you like and good luck to you. I do however suspect that the fact that you can probably get out at anytime gives you confidence. You state that most people can get out when they want to but that is not true.

cliffarc - 2011-09-14 00:04

- sa4ever - For someone with a CA , your reasoning seems faulty. I dont see any bragging from the one's that have left - what I see are people who have read the signs and taken the necessary bold action. You would do well to read those same signs my friend.

Really - 2011-09-14 01:37

To leave is NOT easy and it cost a lot of money, R200k or more depending on the exchange rate. But in the end it is worth it.
If you really want to help people help the one's that appreciate it. You'll find that it will not be Africans but Asians.

Worker - 2011-09-13 21:36

NOW we can see the TRUTH - it's not just juju, the ANC HATES white people and wants them killed ! NASTY is far too nice a word for such a party.

myancmyfutur - 2011-09-13 21:37

That's just an irresponsible statement meant to create unnecessary panic and we should refrain from such.

@myancmyfutur. That was the point, your sig indicates the ANC is your future, yet you lack ability to perform a simple task like spelling your name correctly. I couldn't be bothered to "report" your mistake to News24.
I find it amusing that you feel insulted that I pointed out your error, but you cannot see how offended, deeply hurt and betrayed 8 million whites feel that the country of their birth takes great joy in calling their fellow citizens to murder them. And are willing to use tax money that we payed to defend the right to call south africans to murder south africans. Whose exactly is the racists here?

Klaas - 2011-09-13 21:39

A new Constitution was drafted that was based on a rejection of the unrestrained power of the Apartheid State and the desire to create a state system in which power was directed and constraind by a supreme Constitution. What is now happening is that the Supreme power of the Constitution has been susbstituted by the unrestrained power of the ANC creating a system in which power is directed and constrained by ANC ideology.

Lab-Rat - 2011-09-14 08:50

myancmyfutur since when have you ever been worried about facts?

CTatheist - 2011-09-13 21:43

I don't know anywhere else in the world where society allows songs about killing a group or a "class" of people. This chant is barbaric, there is no other way to describe it.

sniperman - 2011-09-13 22:11

Are barbaric songs not the anthems of Barbarians????

cliffarc - 2011-09-13 22:29

- And especially a minority group.

Alan - 2011-09-13 21:44

Did Mandela ever sing it? I don't think so. Where was Malema when we were all fighting for an Apartheid free SA? In his stinking nappies.

opinion - 2011-09-13 21:46

and i suppose the 'K' word forms part of Afrikaans heritage....???

LuLuBug - 2011-09-13 21:56

opinion, the k word actually appears in the dictionary :)

Beam me up - 2011-09-13 22:02

@motsokwi...don't sing the song and I won't say the word...fair deal right.

First48 - 2011-09-13 22:06

Classy motsokwi, we will all laugh at you when the tokoloshe rams you and your tens wives up the ar%$!!

Banned - 2011-09-13 22:10

No it isn't. Its a bastardization of an Arabic word which means infidel or someone who doesn't believe in God

pants - 2011-09-13 21:46

Evidence that the ANC no longer have reconciliation in their hearts......

LuLuBug - 2011-09-13 21:56

hearts???? lol,lol,lol

CTatheist - 2011-09-13 21:47

White people's history was about excluding blacks from their dispensation. They changed, now its your turn.

LuLuBug - 2011-09-13 21:57

what colour are u CTatheist? And from what country? tell us

Bertverlinde - 2011-09-13 21:59

Lulu, CT is short for Cape Town. That's in South Africa.

CTatheist - 2011-09-14 07:57

I'm mixed, no culture to cling to, hence it places me in the perfect position to stand outside the fence, Bertverlinde, spot on :)

Karien - 2011-09-15 01:42

I wish they would exclude us from their dispensation and give us a "homeland" of our own to govern by ourselves with our tax money. PLEASE, give us our turn!!!

StanTheCaddy - 2011-09-13 21:53

WOW, it really takes a special kind of stupid to insist on singing about the killing of others - this is just embarrassing.

JohnPicarra - 2011-09-13 21:55

" Kill the boer kill the farmer " has inspired me to write a song, but I can not sing it anymore...
It goes...
I have got the right to be free from the anc,
They kill 800 thousand babies,
Right to be free from sacp,
Together they kill on and on,
Aids sufferers 5 Million,
They are murderers, liars
Thieves and Genociders!

sniperman - 2011-09-13 22:13

Got the music Boet??
I'll perform it at the next Standard Bank Joy of Jazz Festival

Bertverlinde - 2011-09-13 21:55

Who'spaying all these legal costs for the ANC and Malema? Oh right, the minority ( working ) group. Shouldn't these guys be busy with, lets think, trying to run and improve this country?

Olavin - 2011-09-13 22:36

Agree, a political party should never use the government system or tax payer monies to pay for a party cause.

motsokwi - 2011-09-13 22:01

The roots of apartheid are definitely left in our justice system.Mogoeng's first task should be to uproot them. Openly biased, they can be.

Lab-Rat - 2011-09-14 08:47

...and one day when you figure out that it wasn't the white mans fault that you're in the position you're in, who are you going to blame then? I know it's not within your capability to accept on responsibility.

Etienne Labuschagne - 2011-09-13 22:08

Very constructive in building a new nation ......

¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ - 2011-09-13 22:09

The government is spending tax money to challenge a court decision that bans the singing of a song that calls for murder - a call that is, in fact, being heeded.
It has long been held that the ANC "doesn't care" about the murders of white farmers - at least as much as would be expected from government - but their aggressive refusal to put white farmers (and white people in general) at any ease (and accept the court's ruling) sends a very disturbing message; one with many sinister undertones.
The ANC government is essentially defending Malema, and what he stands for, by challenging the court - this is the very same ANC who is expected to deliver its judgement over Malema's past behaviour. Malema's murderous anti-white hate talk is never even addressed - let alone condemned - by the ANC, but they are willing to draw their weapons to defend him.
Malema can sing "kill the boer", he can call whites "criminals" and declare "economic war", he can call for whites' property to be taken from them "without compensation"...all over TV news and in all the newspapers - but white people must just shut up and not complain?
This country is rapidly deteriorating into another festering African cesspool and it's shocking, and it's ghastly, and it is frighting, and it's now becoming really offensive. South Africa had a really bright future.

David.Allen.Murray - 2011-09-13 22:09

i am plaesed

Beam me up - 2011-09-13 22:12

more like pissed

¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ - 2011-09-13 22:35

lol Beamy

Accountant - 2011-09-13 22:10

That's right ANC. Show the world what racist you really are!!! Carry on singing songs that is not justified in the current SA climate.

Banned - 2011-09-13 22:12

The ANC has proven in public what we always knew, they are the most racist organization on the planet.

Verdade - 2011-09-13 22:13

the corrupt untouchables...band bandits!!!

odette.greyling - 2011-09-13 22:14

Shoot the Xhosa/ Shoot the Jew/ Shoot the Spaniard/ Shoot the Greek/ Shoot the Scotsman/ Shoot the American/ Shoot the boer / Shoot the Australian/ Shoot the German/.......I think I've made my point

Johan Erasmus - 2011-09-13 22:17

Point taken

Boesman - 2011-09-14 09:01

Sorry - what is your point?

jbjoe - 2011-09-13 22:14

schalk..officially level 6 but if you look at some of the requirements for level 7 and 8 you will see much of this already in place and in action.
but being on the genocide watch means nothing if no one responds to it...lets just hope for the best

Woofix - 2011-09-13 22:23

Somewhere i was falling out of the bus. I was under the impression the ANC are busy dissiplinning juju also for that famous song. Now the ANC sing the same song & are willing to take it up to Mogoeng's doorsteps. Where are my Klippies i need it!!

Boesman - 2011-09-14 09:03

The disciplining of JM is just window-dressing and political theatre - why do you think it's being dragged out so long?
With this action the ANC proves that they approve of all the hate and vitriol spewed by their evil spawn...

Dal68 - 2011-09-13 22:29

anc racist bastards!!

nazeem - 2011-09-13 22:35

anc party supports malema... why...

Boesman - 2011-09-14 09:04

You would only ask 'why' if you had the wrong idea about the ANC in the first place...

Wouter - 2011-09-13 22:36

Never thought bthey would respect the rule of law

Mtibane - 2011-09-13 22:43

Dangerous, very dangerous for all minority groups - this could spell out that the ruling ANC condones reversed racism! I believe this is the complete opposite of what Mr Mandela instituted when democracy was instituted in 1994. The ANC has completely lost all credibility from the minority groups. Minority groups trouble is on its way, Constitution beware, your time is up, you will be rewritten - who in their right minds will invest in South Africa now? The irony is that the money from foreign investment will be withdrawn and this will lead to no jobs, so much for the ANC's upliftment of the poor, they contradict themselves on their policy of job creation. Then again when the poor become poorer the time will be conducive to a full scale revolution in South Africa leading to the genocide of all minority groups - is there nobody out there that can see the outcome of this foolish move!!

cliffarc - 2011-09-13 22:51

- On the button Mtibane.

Banned - 2011-09-14 00:09

Well said - Post of Day Award

Lofty - 2011-09-13 22:50

There is no place in South Africa for "kill the boer" or anything of the kind. The ANC's motive is suspect and is an international embarrassment.

Bill - 2011-09-13 22:50

frankly, the only conclusion and perception that I can come to is that they are just plain stupid--intellectually impaired; it is unfathomable to me that these anc people display the mentality that they do; but now they are showing their true colours---excuse the pun!!how can level headed south africans, irrespective of race and colour and religion and creed continue to have this really very ignorant bunch of people run the country. truly, my adolescent children have much much more common sense and thinking power than these people; and they make a race issue out of everything; but then understandable, because that is all they can fall back on; waht confounds me the most is that there ARE some highly intelligent (albeit in my perception few) in the party-- what is wrong with you? why do you hang around there-- or is it a race issue once more? or don't you have the guts to walk away; the argument that you will work from the insie toichange things doesn't hold water!!

Boesman - 2011-09-14 09:06

"can level headed south africans, irrespective of race and colour and religion and creed continue to have this really very ignorant bunch of people run the country. "
Because level-headed South Africans are in the absolute minority and the mob rules. Simple.

Mtibane - 2011-09-13 22:50

And yet further the ANC is alienating all races - a setup for what?????

Boesman - 2011-09-14 09:09

A setup for the eradication of the white middle class and white farmers? The irony is that the ANC think that they and their cadres will take ownership of the land (Zim II) but they will be reduced to puppets of their new Chinese lords and working like slaves on the farms for their new masters.

OZNOB - 2011-09-13 23:07

THE ARROGANCE OF THE ANC to even consider challenging the verdict if it were white people singing so called liberation songs against blacks there would be all kinds of outcries. It all goes to show that the anc are a bunch os racist hypocrites

harry B - 2011-09-13 23:10

Sadly the ANC is incurable - corrupt, racist, uneducationable. This stubborn attitude to challenge a court ruling (that is no more than confirmation of common sense)will play another "race card" pulling the comrades emotionally together. I am disappointed to have contributed to this LIBERATION.

birdman - 2011-09-13 23:25

@News24. You are lilly livered cowards. I dare you to reinstate my post that you decided to "pull". You are obviously in the ANC's pocket and don't want to rock the boat. Hate speech works both ways don't you know?

robin.tyler - 2011-09-13 23:34

You can all pretend that you aren't, but the majority of posters here are furious and seem to be displaying quite violent tendencies. You're angry that certain ANC members are angry about apartheid. If you can't see the hypocrisy in this then this country truly is lost.

Julian - 2011-09-14 07:48

No Robin. We're angry that Julius Malema sang a song that called for a whole race group to be murdered. We're angry that instead of listening to concerns he had to be taken to court and told to stop singing his hate-filled song. And finally, we're utterly livid that instead of accepting that song lyrics which call for the violent obliteration of a race are Wrong, the ANC has decided to challenge the ruling.
Don't try to become a mind-reader. You suck at it.

Boesman - 2011-09-14 09:10

Poor Robin, but don't worry - not much longer now until your liberal mind-lock is forcibly wrenched off by circumstances...

Boesman - 2011-09-14 09:14

PS. Do you think juju's impis are going to ask you for your liberal credentials or research your online post history before bashing in the skulls of you and yours?

Karien - 2011-09-15 01:55

Well Robin, at least it seems that we may agree on one point, this country truly is lost! Have you given everything you own the Juju & Co. yet? If you haven't then you'd better hurry. Not that doing that would save your life when they practice what they preach, but at least it may soothe your misplaced guilt regarding our supposed sins to the extent that they would make us worthy of being slaughtered en masse.

Chillibean - 2011-09-14 06:14

No, no, no, this government is REALLY suspect! ANY SONG OR CHANT with the words "SHOOT" is bloody hate speech! What's wrong with them?

ChumScrubber - 2011-09-14 06:17

The noble ANC at it again, fighting for the right to keep promoting racial hatred in our country. They're winning their battle now - but the consequences, I promise you, they are going to regret. We're all going to regret - how one evil regime was replaced with another. Cursed I say.

ChumScrubber - 2011-09-14 06:20

I'm fighting the burning feeling that the ANC is causing within me - to hate black people, I'm fighting it because its not logical to judge a whole race on the evil actions of one organsisation. I'm afraid the ANC is beating me though, my resistance is crumbling.

ChumScrubber - 2011-09-14 06:23

Amazing how Barend Strydom went over the top with no reason, I'm surprised their aren't thousands of Wit Wolwe now - the ANC is doing it's absolute utmost to create them. Where have all the white radicals dissapeared to in times like these, are they scared?

Durbsdude - 2011-09-14 08:19

So the ANC condones hate speech. Just great. What a farked up country they have created.

impala50 - 2011-09-14 08:19

The whites of S.A. better start preparing for civil war. When this ruling is overturned it will be open day for killing whites.
Just what sort of message is this sending to the rest of the civilised world when a government thinks it ok to sing songs like this.
Any potential business investors or tourists should think long and hard about visiting S.A.It will not just be farmers that are in the main firing line, all whites will be targetted.

GypseyAnn - 2011-09-14 08:30

Good grief - they will deny anything they possibly can ...
Take some responsibility and have a backbone!

Vrijheid - 2011-09-14 08:41

I say, the ANC just showed their true intentions, they are terrorist. We should seriously start holding back taxes.

Boesman - 2011-09-14 09:16

Would love to - but how? PAYE is deducted at source now, they must have seen this coming years ago...

Lab-Rat - 2011-09-14 08:44

Why don't the anc just get it over and done with and declare war on whites already. All this beating around the bush is getting tiring. We all know what their intentions are and that is to rid SA completely of non-blacks. They're waiting desperately for the whites to retaliate so they can start a war and claim we started it.

Ralph Long - 2011-09-14 09:05

Well, I had thought of returning to SA some day, but there that goes out the window. Who wants to live in a country where the ruling party advocate murdering people? Not me, for sure.

sam malindi - 2011-09-14 09:13

Anc wake upm the court is helping to call this juju of yours into order because you failed to do so in early days,or you are justifying his disrespecting the elderly citizens of the country.HEY ANC COMEON.

Hopeful_S.Af - 2011-09-14 09:26

"Whatever happened to the values of humanity
Whatever happened to the fairness and equality
Instead of spreading love, we're spreading anomosity
Lack of understanding, leading us away from unity
That's the reason why sometimes I'm feeling under
That's the reason why sometimes I'm feeling down
It's no wonder why sometimes I'm feeling under
I gotta keep my faith alive, until love is found"

tut - 2011-09-14 09:33

In on other words our Government is supporting mass slaughter fo white farmers. Sick.