That was beautiful. Such a lovely piece of moody art.Few years back, I had this personal tradition of rewatching EoE on the 24th of December (and no, this had nothing to do with me being an atheist). It reminds me of those days. Wish that I've discovered it around Christmas...I love the throwbacks to original series, like the Asukas or bookends Rei. I hope that when 4.0 comes, we'll see what all of this means, and if this does mean anything at all

[When I was checking vitals I suggested a smile You didn't talk for a whileYou were freezing]

Sailor Star Dust wrote:According to Eva Fan, based on Hayashibara's manner of speaking, another Eva short related to the main story (NTE in this case??), like a completely separate "derivative-version Eva" is possible. He speculates maybe it'd have to do with that 3D CG Eva-like mecha from the PV (the "Black Evangelion").

tl;dr:

*Until You Come to Me is a derivative work (So...Peaceful Times too?).

What does "derivative work" means, that it could eventually be canon, or that it's definitively not canon?

Avatar:THE HIGHEST OF ALL HIGHS WE AAAAAAAAAARE!!!Kensuke is a military otaku who, at one point, is shown creepily taking pictures of girls to sell. He would clearly fit right in as an animator at Studio Gainax. -- Compiling_AutumnEoTV is a therapist, EoE is a drill instructor. -- ChuckmanSeriously, that is the most fananked theory I've ever heard, more than Mari being Marty McFly travelling through time to keep her parents (Asushin) together. -- Jäeger

Mr. Tines wrote:It means that it draws upon another work. Fanfics are derivative works, though unless your name is Hideaki Anno, nobody will call your NGE fic canon.

So in short, we're not more advanced than before.

Avatar:THE HIGHEST OF ALL HIGHS WE AAAAAAAAAARE!!!Kensuke is a military otaku who, at one point, is shown creepily taking pictures of girls to sell. He would clearly fit right in as an animator at Studio Gainax. -- Compiling_AutumnEoTV is a therapist, EoE is a drill instructor. -- ChuckmanSeriously, that is the most fananked theory I've ever heard, more than Mari being Marty McFly travelling through time to keep her parents (Asushin) together. -- Jäeger

Shinji: "Sooner or later I'll be betrayed... And they'll leave me. Still... I want to meet them again, because I believe my feelings at that time were real."Ryuko: "I'm gonna knock ya on your asses!"-Asuka: THINK IN GERMAN!!! -Shinji: Öh... Baumkuchen...Hayashida: "As game developers, our work is special. All of us here can put smiles on very many people's faces with our work.""In any case, it (Kill la Kill) is the greatest work of fiction ever written and should be taught in schools." -Squigsquasher~('.'~) (~'.')~ Dancin Kirby

It's beautiful and obviously highly metaphorical, for me personally the Rei-filled parts were a particular attack to the heartstrings.

But mostly here we see Shnji observing the post-apocalyptic wasteland and reflecting on the past and we see things blur together, past!Gendo, Shinji's stint in the awakened EVA 01, a scary angel mask face but not the one EVA 01 had...

Obviously the shot where he gets Sachiel's chest/cracked core symbolizes the utter devastation of his heart, but it's also the blurring between angel and human.

One big point of interests are those trees in the background - they're not red, and i there's something as sophisticated as trees within walking distance from ground zero, this planet is most definitely still habitable. There were those flowers in Q but you could blame these on "eye of the storm".

But you also see core-ified grass and even the trees are... kind of purplish or blue in some shots, so we'll have to wait and see. But it puts a still-mostly habitable each back on the "somewhat possible" tab for me.

I mean, those floating pieces and half-translucent skeletons/ core-EVas aren't encouraging, it's like the laws of physics themselves are desintegrating.

Then there is the elaborate depiction of Shinji's reaction to snowflakes, like they're this alien, fascinating thing, just another part of the bizarre wasteland. Snowflakes should be the last familiar thing but Shinji's never seen them before. So it's a very deep and complicated and complete kind of sadness there.He probably finds them to be an inexplicable, beautiful thing in a world that's become a surreal nightmare.

As for the spear spitting things, they have big green eyes, like nekkid EVA 01. Although the eye scare wasn't in rebuild, so yeah...

Beyond the already mentioned Asuka's, there's also the shorelines that follow them (or come shortly before them)- Blue to red, (as in NGE) blue on the fish preservation institute, red with stuff from the Q wasteland.

How meaningful to see the aquarium so much because that was one of the things that really hit me while rewatching 2.0 post Q - These efforts to preserve and "restock" the earth were in vain and now it's even more devastated, and as for "taking care of Katsuragi", Shinji couldn't do that either look what's become of her.

But the whole thing - Asuka going from proud and hopeful to broken and vulnerable/ old and bitter, respectively, the devastation of earth, even those pics of Kaworu in various poses from inviting to downcast (as in farewell, or lost) is a depiction of rise and decline, cummulating in that shot of ReiQ, who, for Shinji, is also a reminder of things he's lost.

This is all really from Shinji's perspective, not ReiQs or Asukas, so this montage might be something to be seen in similar terms, a recap of what's been rather than what's gonna happen, Shinji letting the image in his mind wander: He made a small, tentative effort to get closer to Rei, and his feelings/intentions actually reached her (communication motif; See all that talk about ep 6) and she made her own small, tentative steps toward him... and then she just dissapeared.

She does seem to be at the same shoreline that Shinji is ar in the later shots. they wouldn't spoil something as massive as what happens to ReiQ though a bad end doesn't seem too unlikely and everything was worse than before.

Note that in the last shot, we see Shinji-in-plugsuit overlooking a rain water lake... with Shinji-in-uniform overlooking what looks alot like the crater that replaced Tokyo3 post ep 23, something similar to those shots from eps 24 or 25' where Shinji stands overlooking the water, all hope lost.

So, he's at a similar point in the journey basically, and now for another finale.

The little chime when he sees and follows the Rei-in-uniform aparition really kills me, though. If this is literal, he probably isn't going to reach her. But then again, Rei always represented hope so that might be it, simply put, that the next step is some sort of hope appearing before him. Most likely he'll encounter her in a mindscape-like environment during final impact as a last farewell. Or we might catch a break, which I always hope for, but Q being the way it was...[/i]

I find the Kaoru heads to be a continuous motion in accordance to his nature and the structure of 3.0/333 (if anything I can't stop thinking of skulls and irony) while the other heads are a whole info dump on their own crossing the whole material. At least I expect a lot of Asuka interaction with others before her role is played out or something.The short can surely work as a recap of rebuilds, a preview and as EoE in a nutshell too with Shinji going left, having mind wankery and being pushed to self destructing intentions -hatred he has not the means to direct to anyone- and going right meaning making a choice on his own after coming in terms with his old self reflected in the water. That has been probably discussed to death since the tv series last episodes taking place in minds.The goatjesus vid has everything else though and links to past canon things (I didn't remember the adams stuff and composition).

Kendrix wrote:Then there is the elaborate depiction of Shinji's reaction to snowflakes, like they're this alien, fascinating thing, just another part of the bizarre wasteland. Snowflakes should be the last familiar thing but Shinji's never seen them before. So it's a very deep and complicated and complete kind of sadness there.He probably finds them to be an inexplicable, beautiful thing in a world that's become a surreal nightmare.

This joins a number of ideas that appeared in Rebuild after first being shown in Sadamoto's manga.

This is all really from Shinji's perspective, [...], a recap of what's been rather than what's gonna happen, Shinji letting the image in his mind wander:

Much of it is compatible with the way it came to me to depict Shinji's thoughts at the same juncture; this pleases me!

"Being human, having your health; that's what's important."(from: Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi )"As long as we're all living, and as long as we're all having fun, that should do it, right?"(from: The Eccentric Family )Avatar: Sad, sad Shinji... (details); Past avatars.Afterwards... my post-Q Evangelion fanfic (discussion)

But he came to Kaworu, who the song is presumably meant to be the one singing the song to Shinji. and that didn't turn out well at all.

Who is he supposed to come to?

I’ll escape now from this world, from the world of Jean Valjean, Jean Valjean is nothing now! Another story must begin!Avatar: "There's a Starman, waiting in the sky. He'd like to come and meet me, but he thinks he'd blow my mind."Phew, I’m not tense anymore… now I’m just miserable.People say "be yourself" but that's bad advice, if we were all to "be ourselves" many of us would stop wearing clothes. -Chuckman

Of course, in the actual words of the song, it is indeed the person in the grave singing to the living of when they will be joined in death (something to cheer you up, eh? - you're welcome!).

"Being human, having your health; that's what's important."(from: Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi )"As long as we're all living, and as long as we're all having fun, that should do it, right?"(from: The Eccentric Family )Avatar: Sad, sad Shinji... (details); Past avatars.Afterwards... my post-Q Evangelion fanfic (discussion)

It's probably kaworu and Shinji but judging from how things turn in EoE it can include everyone before Shinji turns into lcl, things "joining together" and such as mentioned in the goatjesus video, like some sort of emotional prayer. The shot of Shinji going right instead of following the steps going left is more about him making a choice on his own than going to megarei.

「すなわち「アニメーター見本市」における『Until you come to me』とは『Q』内に連なるべき内容だった……とまでは明かしても良かろう。が、新劇場版は未完のままである。ファンを困惑させないためにも、それ以上はあまり触れないでおこう。」

OUTTAKES FROM EVANGELION 解説7Pより

Tanslated roughly, it means:

"In other words the contents of the Animator Expo film "until You come to me" were supposed to have lain within "Q"... I can probably reveal that much. However, the new films remain unfinished. In order to avoid confusing the fans as well, I won't be touching on it much beyond that."

MNEF comments:

やはり2013年に出た絵コンテらしき画像、2014年のuntil You come to me.(の一部画像)等は、もともと『Q』用に準備され、使われなかった素材、だった可能性がありそうです。

"It seems possible that the storyboard-like images that appeared in 2013 and (a portion of the images of) 2014's "until You come to me" were materials that had been prepared for "Q" but not used."

The MNEF post also cited a quote from (CRC editor) Ryusuke Hikawa in the magazine CD Journal, where Hikawa says that Sagisu's "Danny Boy" had apparently been produced for Eva Q but left unused.