Posted
by
samzenpus
on Thursday December 13, 2012 @07:39PM
from the spam-by-the-numbers dept.

jfruh writes "Over the past couple of years, you may have noticed a rash of often high-quality infographics by third parties appearing on your favorite websites. These images are offered to Web publishers free of charge, with the only request being a link back to the creator's own site. But when one blogger got an odd email from a the creator of infographic he put on his site two years ago, he did some digging and discovered that he had inadvertently helped some shady characters do SEO spamming."

Ummm I read the article, and other than the author being pretty obtuse, I don't see any substantial connection with infographics.

The author operates a blog, and was contacted by someone trying to operate a suspicious link-trading scheme. He engaged them to find out info the SEO scheme was directing traffic to a lead-generation system for online degrees.

End of story.

Anyone who operates a website has gotten spam about link trading schemes like this one. Nothing in here is specifically targeted to infographics.

It sounds like the source of that infographic was the bogus info-farming online school site, and they wanted the links updated.

It also sounds like they produce hundreds of these infographics and expects to be backlinked.

I think it would have helped more if you had explained yourself with the help of a diagram.

I don't understand, do you have a car analogy?

It's as if your car is acting up, and you search out a solution for your problem. A friend says, "Oh, that sounds like something easy to fix yourself. Here's a simple diagram + instructions. If you have any questions just swing by this close-by shop address, but if it helps you then spread the word."

Try as you might your problem persists, and so you visit the address your friend gave you with the instructions. When you arrive all you find is a School for Mechanics and several recruiters immediately begin pressuring you to act now and enroll for A+ certification. You'd drive away but they've plastered your windshield with half attached bumperstickers so that they flap in the wind, exploiting the fact that human attention is drawn towards movement.

You then wonder how many folks the DIY pictorial had managed to help, and how many times those who were luckier than you had given out that bogus address.

So, in an attempt to raise awareness of the questionable practice which you fell victim to, you write up a letter about the whole ordeal and publish it via newsletter. To help with the costs of producing the newsletter you place a few ads betwixt yon paragraphs. As luck would have it an editor of the local gear-head talk radio show discovers your newsletter on a slow news day and mentions it on air.

Suddenly your little newsletter is in more demand than you can meet, and you literally have to turn away some folks sans article. Some enraged would-be reader slices your car's tires for causing them the fruitless journey, thus the act of running out of in-demand newsletters becomes known as the "Slash-Tire Effect".

As you reflect upon the crazy whirlwind of happenings, you realize that you've become just as bad as the infographic con perpetrators you so despised: Your newsletter's advertising revenue more than made up for the amount to pay for your trivial problem to be fixed, but it simultaneously spread generic FUD about following your friends' mechanic advice, especially if accompanied by a photocopy of pages from a Haynes manual.

Eventually you receive a few letters from your newsletter readers which your publisher automatically publishes in the new editions. One reader jokingly claims that the whole story would have been easier understood if accompanied by an illustrated mechanical tear-down of the process. As an inside joke, another reader suggests that the ordeal would better be understood by them were it conveyed via computer science analogy. A third reader, being both a mechanic and computer scientist, replies with an overly detailed computing technology related analogy.

Suddenly your little newsletter is in more demand than you can meet, and you literally have to turn away some folks sans article. Some enraged would-be reader slices your car's tires for causing them the fruitless journey, thus the act of running out of in-demand newsletters becomes known as the "Slash-Tire Effect".

Well, your commend didn't add a damn thing to this discussion, so it seems like you're brining the rage to this party. Good luck with that.

Getting a site destroyed by/. is a lot more rare mostly because servers are vastly more robust than they were in the past. I have a Wordpress blog hosted on a $10 a month shared server that was linked on Slashdot last year. Brought in tens of thousand of hits in an hour if I remember correctly. Site stayed up, though a little slow. And that's just a single shared server, No AWS. 5-10 years ago that would have cost serious money for a site that could handle that. Now it's the cost of three cups of coffee.

A Slashdotting used to be hundreds of thousands of hits. My last Slashdotting [slashdot.org] got a total of 6000. Hacker News was more of a practical problem (that led to me installing WP SuperCache, which is fantastic, particularly in mod_rewrite mode).

The whole internet is changing (for the worse in my opinion). Even Google - Once an excellent Search Engine, now not so much. Even places like Webmasterworld aren't what they used to be. Facebook idiots and corporations are taking over. Get used to it. As to politics, yeah - The "interwebs" have changed that, too. Remember it wasn't so many years ago home computers were not particularly common so discussions on boards like/. were more "professional" (for lack of a better word off hand). These days every id

I have. But I still can pine for the "glory days", I suppose. Where is the joy in getting old if I can't complain about everything going down hill? Seriously, things were better in the days of BBSs. I don't know if I've just aged, and my interests are different now, and I allocate my time differently, or if things have actually degraded. Well, I'm pretty sure/. has, but rather things as a whole.

As for the politics things... I'm not sure if the internet changed them, or if what is going on can actuall

You have aged (as we all are). I ran a BBS on phone lines in the 1980's up until 1990 when my work over took my hobby. It was fun. It was somewhat personal. It was a great hobby!

You have to accept a certain amount of "change". I pine for the "good old days" when I was in my 20's and 30's and had a dick as hard as a rock (and the gals always "approved" of the size {length *and* width}). In fact, my current GF of almost 8 years now is a gal whose husband died. She and I screwed around so many years ago. When

The whole internet is changing (for the worse in my opinion). Even Google - Once an excellent Search Engine, now not so much.

Possibly the most widespread annoying SEO result in the wild is the proliferation of hundreds of different 'directory', 'locator' and 'local guide' type services that are just shady parasites on your search for whatever place you are actually looking for.

I understand they optimize these sites every way imaginable to increase their rank, but damn big G, this has been going on for years and for the life of me I can't figure out why Google, which is supposed to try to connect people with what they actually wan

"The Good Old Days" were when you ran a program by dropping off a box of punch cards at the computer center, glanced up at the posted turn-around time, looked at your last print out to see how many minutes of CPU time you had left in your account, then left for lunch before you came back to get your output, which hopefully wasn't just a core-dump you had to inspect to find where the divide-by-zero error occured.

Since then it has been just too easy for the masses to get involved and spoil everything!

Actually you got it wrong. The author was not contacted by someone "trying" to operate a link-trading scheme, but rather by someone with whom the author already engaged with (he admittedly used some infographics from that site).

This is basically someone revolted that somebody else is making money on the internet.

Agreed. If an infographic doesn't provide value, it doesn't do much.
This post, on the other hand, got published to one of the biggest tech sites on the Internet, all because they regurgitated a sensationalist post about something that has been a core piece of online public relations and SEO for at least 5 years. There's no information there.

Yeah, I didn't exactly see their site or practices as shady. It's not like they're hiding what they're doing or who they're advertising for, so they're not spam. Getting people to link to you by offering content that apparently has enough value for you to link to them is not link farming, it's linking.

It's link farming if the links go back to a fake news aggregator site that nobody could really use. It's SEO comment spam if it includes gratuitous links in generic comments or pseudonymous profiles. (A sma

Your argument is that because they created the content primarily to get links is that it somehow makes the content less "worthy", whereas I think the content should be judged on its own merits.

Even if the content creator is an advertiser specializing in online-for-profit schools, that doesn't invalidate the content. This is actually more like ordinary advertising, except it's paid for with (somewhat) valuable content instead of directly with cash. And of course there is a link as a result, but it's a legiti

IME, they're linked to primarily by bloggers that openly love infographics and sometimes as a modern form of clipart. I follow quite a few blogs of various kinds, and the periodic infographics I see are usually posted on their own more as a factoid-of-the-day because they look cool, and virtually never convey information better than a sentence or two could.

So this is really unfair. It is not like the site is tricking anyone into filling out form, or injecting javascript, or putting other content into frames, or charging you. Back in the day you would have charged over a hundred for this service. Many people were duped into thinking this was valuable.

In this case the site exists to connect people who are looking to go to college with colleges who want the money. This is no different than your average bank who will not only sell your name to a fraudsters, but allow them to put the bank logo on correspondence and then claim they have nothing to do with the offer.

In fact it is not the site who are like the banks, but the schools. They are the ones soliciting for others to attract clients using whatever mean necessary. The school have a choice of who they pay for fulfillment. They could simply say if anyone complains about fraud, they will not pay for fulfillment. Yet the don't. They knowingly engage in supporting whatever fraud may exist.

Which is not surprising. School like Phoenix exists to con young people into applying to student loans, taking that money.and giving much less than what would expect from a minimum education. National average default rate is around 14%, University of Phoenix has twice that. The cost of an associates degree is at least 25K, while most community colleges are half that.

If there is a story here it is that some schools have engaged in fraud, promoted fraud, solicited fraud, and destroyed young peoples lives all to steal a few dollars from the US taxpayers.

Seriously? Who didn't know this? Stupid question, my boss is one of those people that doesn't get it, but he's old and doesn't understand the Internet. Why anyone who can find slashdot on their own wouldn't get it is beyond me.

Let me make sure I understand your complaint... You went to a website that helps you apply for, and get in to schools. After you filled out applications for those schools you got upset when they called you to discuss the information you sent in your application? I don't understand where the problem is, am I missing something?