Outlands College of Heralds

UNTO the Outlands College of Heralds, our respected friends and
colleagues who give freely of their time to provide commentary, and all
others who come by these letters, on
this 10th day of January A.S. xxxxii (2008 CE), does Maestra
Francesca
di
Pavia
send greetings on behalf of The Honourable Lady Marie de Blois, White
Stag Principal
Herald.

Here follows the Kingdom of the Outlands Letter of Presentation for
January 2008. Your comments and suggestions
are always welcome. Errors found herein are
undoubtedly mine.

Anyone may comment upon the items found herein, and e-mail
commentary to the herald's commentary list is encouraged. Please have
comments
on items contained herein to the White Stag Principal Herald
by February 9, 2008, for the decision meeting tentatively
scheduled for February 10, 2008.

1. Carlos Nieto de Andrade. Device
resubmission. Per chevron azure and
argent, three mullets of eight one and two and in base a Cross of
Santiago gules within a bordure embattled all counterchanged.
(Citadel of the Southern Pass)
The name was sent to Laurel on the November
2007 Letter of Intent. The device was returned on the November
2007 Letter of Response for a redraw. The bordure has been redrawn
and the mullets rearranged per Rampart's request. Additionally, the
mullets have been re-blazoned as "mullets of eight" per same.

2. Geillis inghean Póil
uí Siridein. New device. Per bend argent and purpure, a bend
counterchanged, and in chief three trefoils bendwise vert.
(Citadel of the Southern Pass)

3. Mari the Far Travelled.
Device resubmission. Azure, a
demi-pegasus Or couped contourny between three compass stars Or.
(Blackwater Keep)
The name was registered in May 2005.
The most recent device submission was returned on the August
2007 Letter of Response for unblazonability.The current redraw
addresses the previous concerns.

4. Muirenn Ghlass ingen
Fáelán. Name resubmission.
(Citadel of the Southern Pass) Gender: Female. The submitter
cares most about the language/culture of the name, defining this as
"Irish Gaelic preferred, not necessary". She requests authenticity for
Irish languageculture, no time period specified. Changes accepted.
This resubmission takes into
account the changes suggested by the OCoH per March
2006 LoR:
Muirenn - Irish Names,
by
O'Corrain and Maguire, pg 141, under the header spelling Muireann. Bearer of
variant Muirenn died in 831
A.D.
Ghlass - Glass as
listed in Feminine Names from the Index to O'Brien's "Corpus
Genealogiarum
Hibernae" by Tangwystl verch Morgant Glasfryn
(http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/irish-obrien.html) [Castle note: I cannot locate this site. http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/obrien/ says it no longer exists as a document
accessible to the public.]
ingen - see same source as Ghlass
Fáelán - Original submission
cites Surnames of Ireland
by MacLysaght (pg 245, under Phelan).
LoR
indicates Old Irish version is found in Irish Names by O'Corrain
and Maguire as Fáelán.

5. Sorcha inghean Eoin. Device
resubmission. Ermine, a
water bouget azure within a bordure raguly vert.
(Citadel of the Southern Pass)
The previous submission was returned for a redraw on the October
2007 Letter of Response.No conflicts were found at that time. The
bordure has been thickened and depiction of raguly made more clear, as
requested.

6. Walkelin Montgomery. Device
resubmission. Argent, three Japanese
arrow notches in pall, shafts to center, a bordure sable.
(Drygestan)
The previous submission, Argent, a
Japanese arrow notch inverted and in chief two chevronels couped braced,
a bordure sable, was returned on the October
2007 Letter of Response: "Argent, a Japanese arrow notch
inverted and in chief two chevronels couped braced, a bordure sable..
Rampart was unable to find any precedent for the use of the fletching
or nocks of an arrow as a heraldic charge, and in fact found many
returned devices attempting to register the rear-half of arrows. I will
cite RfS VIII.3 (Armorial Identifiability; as a "demi-arrow" is
generally the head of the item, aka Pheon, and we have no term for the
rear of an arrow which includes the shaft) in this return, and If the
submitter can present period Mon that use the item as a charge in
Japanese heraldry, that might present enough information to base a
successful challenge of this decision at a Laurel level."
This is a new design, but still employs the questionable arrow notch.
The submitter includes documentation for the charge being used in SCA
heraldry in the past: November
1986: Argent, two axes, blades to center, between their handles,
two single Hapanese arrow notches in saltire, all gules (Daimon Isamu)December
2003: (Fieldless) Four Japanese arrow notches conjoined in saltire
bases to center azure (Kingdom of Trimaris, Badge for the Order of the
Fletcher)
He also cites correspondence with Solveig Throndardottir, who notes
several examples of arrow fletches in Japanese heraldry, dated to the
Kamakura period (ca. 1200) (Source: Hashimoto, Hiroshi. Daibukan. Tokyo: Meicho
Kankokai, 1965.) http://www.otomiya.com/kamon/kibutsu/ya.htm,
a Japanese website, shows several (undated) examples of the arrow
fletch in Japanese mon.