Doctor/Seven Thread

Yeah the flipside is hidden like a lot of gender stereotyping. It's always good to ask how the stereotype plays out for those that don't fulfill it. Of course we do Harry a disservice in these threads all the time by playing with these stereotypes and alluding to him being unmanly because he isn't more direct. The whole men are direct, women wait to be earned is problematic.

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As was said previously, generally Harry seemed more inclined to want to build up a relationship substanively and thoughtfully, over shared interests and sympathies, and definitely not directed by a programme of flash, braggadocio, and "game". I think the fact that we are able to make light of his efforts because it suited the writers that there should be a symmetry between his service and romantic advancements, should not obscure a recognition that the way he approached and dealt with others was pretty laudable. We can only speculate, but Harry likely looked to his parents as a model for how a relationship should work.

Though its conclusion didn't exactly need to be spelled out, Harry could be bold and definitive as when, probably after a number of false steps over time, he unequivocally set his feelings out to Lyndsay Ballard before her second and truly permanent departure. But as always, time and circumstance were not in his favor. Ah yes..... time and circumstance.

The doctor would never profess being in love with Seven. Personal priorities I suppose. And the same for Seven. Just as Acorntree144 said, there affair started with 'Someone to Watch Over Me' One should remember he tutored Seven through 'Unimatrix 0', even to a greater degree than an understanding Captain Janeway.

Acorn the shipping threads will always morph into discussing other possibilities. It's organic.

That's quite a few manips you have! You know what would have been excellent, if Ryan and Picardo had been in something else together, would have given the vidders a lot to work with. Of course W13 fans have been hoping for Ryan and Mulgrew to get even one scene together.. that would have set the internet on fire.

The Doctor was in love with Seven, even I could see that. And given enough time, I could totally see her returning his affections. And it's certainly not unheard of for a teacher to fall in love with a student (or the reverse). In fact I think Doctor/Seven would have been the most realistic of all the possible Seven pairings I can think of. In a way, they have more in common than a lot of people realize.

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It's not unheard of for a teacher to fall in love with a student, but pursuing those affections is, shall we say, a very French thing to do. It's unethical and it leads to the teacher having the majority of the power in the relationship. Just like Bashir and Serena could never have really been equals in a relationship, neither could Doctor and Seven. Seven needed to develop her sexuality on her own terms, not just reciprocate the first affection directed toward her. Maybe if they went separate ways and met again years later.

Heh, I can see that meeting. "Doctor, you are very kind. But I could never love a man with a personality."

I was watching "Timeless" just now due to another thread, and there's another moment supporting a Doctor/Seven relationship.

During the celebration over slipstream drive modifications, Seven becomes drunk on syntheholic champagne. The Doctor is concerned and tries to get her to sit down. Seven realizes he's looking out for her and goes into her "We are one!" routine.