"The film that really struck me was Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner.' That was a film I watched many, many times and found endlessly fascinating in its density. But I think the density of that film is primarily visual density and atmospheric and sound density, more so than narrative density. But, yeah, I think for a lot of filmmakers particularly, there will be a film like that in their past that they've really become a little obsessed with and seen too many times, or more times than seems healthy." - Christopher Nolan

I'd say this one promises a much more interesting film than the other one. Even though most of the footage is the same, the US trailer tries to sell it as a blockbuster (with blockbuster trailer music). I like the international one better.

But, for some reason, every new piece of footage makes more and more skeptical. Same with the latest Batman film.

"Modern, serious music has become embroiled in an intellectual discussion that has no place in music. Certainly, the great composer of the past were geniuses and used their intellect, but only to serve their emotions and guide their craft. Not to dictate to them what they should or shouldn't write" - Michael Kamen, 1995

"The film that really struck me was Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner.' That was a film I watched many, many times and found endlessly fascinating in its density. But I think the density of that film is primarily visual density and atmospheric and sound density, more so than narrative density. But, yeah, I think for a lot of filmmakers particularly, there will be a film like that in their past that they've really become a little obsessed with and seen too many times, or more times than seems healthy." - Christopher Nolan

I'd say this one promises a much more interesting film than the other one.

I don't think so. The previous one actually looked Alienesque, It had that old 70s vibe to it. This one looks more like another Avatar or something. I am much more interested in seeing the other movie.

I'd say this one promises a much more interesting film than the other one.

I don't think so. The previous one actually looked Alienesque, It had that old 70s vibe to it. This one looks more like another Avatar or something. I am much more interested in seeing the other movie.

I don't know how you can see anything like Avatar in the international trailer.

I'd say this one promises a much more interesting film than the other one.

I don't think so. The previous one actually looked Alienesque, It had that old 70s vibe to it. This one looks more like another Avatar or something. I am much more interested in seeing the other movie.

I don't know how you can see anything like Avatar in the international trailer.

My initial impression. Trailer looks to me as if it was another movie set in the universe of Cameron's "Avatar" than of Scott's "Alien"/"Blade Runner".

I didn't think that Blade Runner and Alien were part of the same universe.

And once you take the blue people and Pandorian aliens out of Avatar, all you're left with is generic uninspired science fiction that steals mechs from Aliens (and MechWarrior), dropships from Aliens, and various other established franchises.

And once you take the blue people and Pandorian aliens out of Avatar, all you're left with is generic uninspired science fiction that steals mechs from Aliens (and MechWarrior), dropships from Aliens, and various other established franchises.

You don't need to take the aliens out. The alien creatures are either inspired on real animals or based off John Carter. They didn't even bother creating new sounds for some of them. And personally, I hated the blue people. The design was just so obvious, with the big eyes, the cat noses... ugh.

The mechs are different from that in Aliens, though. All that's similar is the bars over Ripley's head sorta resemble the form of the cabins of the Avatar mechs. And the Venture Star is the coolest spaceship I've seen in a film.

Prometheus looks different to Alien because the Prometheus is just not the Nostromo.

And you think that a human civilization advanced enough to send human beings to LV-426 -- I know, not named in Alien until Aliens, but still -- would make every ship look the same? Our current civilization is only advanced enough to send people to the moon and orbit of this planet, and the space shuttle orbiter still doesn't look anything like a Saturn capsule. A pick-up truck doesn't look like a VW beetle.

The Nostromo was an ore freighter. The Prometheus is clearly not.

The key indicator is that the distinctive curvature of the space jockey's ship is clearly seen in some Prometheus trailers. And there is no space jockey on Pandora.

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But I guess that's the point we've reached in film these days. Every new science fiction epic will be benchmarked against Avatar. That's sad.

I'm more excited about this film than any other in quite some time. I can't wait to see this, and yet I'm practicing controlled restraint when it comes to seeing trailers or promotional material. When Scott is really on, he's one of the great directors we have.

When was the last time you thought he's one of the great directors? Personally, I think it's been quite a while ago. Most of the time he's not much better than his brother. I don't expect Prometheus to be truly great but I'm hoping there will be some great moments in it and by that I don't mean spectacular 3D effects.

Alex

"The film that really struck me was Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner.' That was a film I watched many, many times and found endlessly fascinating in its density. But I think the density of that film is primarily visual density and atmospheric and sound density, more so than narrative density. But, yeah, I think for a lot of filmmakers particularly, there will be a film like that in their past that they've really become a little obsessed with and seen too many times, or more times than seems healthy." - Christopher Nolan

"The film that really struck me was Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner.' That was a film I watched many, many times and found endlessly fascinating in its density. But I think the density of that film is primarily visual density and atmospheric and sound density, more so than narrative density. But, yeah, I think for a lot of filmmakers particularly, there will be a film like that in their past that they've really become a little obsessed with and seen too many times, or more times than seems healthy." - Christopher Nolan

I agree. I actually wish Orlando Bloom's character had died at the beginning and Liam Neeson's would have gone off to fight another round in the crusades. Also there is something intangible missing from a lot of Ridley's recent films, a certain humane touch. He is always so interested in the large canvas of history and place that he often, I feel, forgets the human side of things. In Kingdom of Heaven in the spectacle of the crusades I tend to forget Balian altogether whatever tribulations he is going through with allies and enemies, Sibylla or Tiberias or Guy. They all ring a little hollow and as consequence I do not care for them at all. Oddly enough Edward Norton in his mask projected the most poignant performance as the young king trying to hold his crumbling empire intact.

Ars superior est vita hominum.

"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-

I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-

Yes. Incredible how a man with a mask was more affecting and poignant than the rest of the cast.

"The film that really struck me was Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner.' That was a film I watched many, many times and found endlessly fascinating in its density. But I think the density of that film is primarily visual density and atmospheric and sound density, more so than narrative density. But, yeah, I think for a lot of filmmakers particularly, there will be a film like that in their past that they've really become a little obsessed with and seen too many times, or more times than seems healthy." - Christopher Nolan

"The film that really struck me was Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner.' That was a film I watched many, many times and found endlessly fascinating in its density. But I think the density of that film is primarily visual density and atmospheric and sound density, more so than narrative density. But, yeah, I think for a lot of filmmakers particularly, there will be a film like that in their past that they've really become a little obsessed with and seen too many times, or more times than seems healthy." - Christopher Nolan

"The film that really struck me was Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner.' That was a film I watched many, many times and found endlessly fascinating in its density. But I think the density of that film is primarily visual density and atmospheric and sound density, more so than narrative density. But, yeah, I think for a lot of filmmakers particularly, there will be a film like that in their past that they've really become a little obsessed with and seen too many times, or more times than seems healthy." - Christopher Nolan

Exactly. Suckerpunch is Snyder's Legend. Have you seen Suckerpunch already, Steef?

"The film that really struck me was Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner.' That was a film I watched many, many times and found endlessly fascinating in its density. But I think the density of that film is primarily visual density and atmospheric and sound density, more so than narrative density. But, yeah, I think for a lot of filmmakers particularly, there will be a film like that in their past that they've really become a little obsessed with and seen too many times, or more times than seems healthy." - Christopher Nolan

"The film that really struck me was Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner.' That was a film I watched many, many times and found endlessly fascinating in its density. But I think the density of that film is primarily visual density and atmospheric and sound density, more so than narrative density. But, yeah, I think for a lot of filmmakers particularly, there will be a film like that in their past that they've really become a little obsessed with and seen too many times, or more times than seems healthy." - Christopher Nolan

I just hope Man Of Steel won't be as ordinary as Someone To Watch Over Me (Scott's movie after Legend). But listening to Snyder ("Supes will be my most realistic movie to date"), it sounds like it will be.

Luckily I still have P.T. Anderson and Andrew Dominik.

Alex - who remembers watching Someone To Watch Over Me felt like watching TV movie of the week.

"The film that really struck me was Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner.' That was a film I watched many, many times and found endlessly fascinating in its density. But I think the density of that film is primarily visual density and atmospheric and sound density, more so than narrative density. But, yeah, I think for a lot of filmmakers particularly, there will be a film like that in their past that they've really become a little obsessed with and seen too many times, or more times than seems healthy." - Christopher Nolan