14 months and no gains

Jelqing is the most basic, yet most complex, exercise, that there is in our PE arsenal. It is also the most important.

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I completely agree.

04-29-2010, 05:35 PM

Clubber

Originally Posted by marinera

I completely agree.

I sort of disagree that jelqing is the most important aspect of PE. I barely jelq anymore and Im gaining just fine….but I do do some forms of jelqing. I dry jelq….., but mostly bend and squeeze and I always kegel. To be completely straight up, jelqing always was very hard for me to stick to; it was always a chore and I rarely ever enjoyed it. My routine always involves porn at the moment; I get a quick 10 minute hot water pump in, which constitutes as a warmup….then I clamp and edge. I always adjust the pressures of the clamp…when the pressure is lower while clamped I throw in some squeezes and bends.

I will take the clamp off to dry jelq to get some fresh blood in periodically as well. One thing that I discovered that has helped me is warming up with the pump. I usually warm up with hot water for a few minutes before I actually pump as well. I use the tube to warm up in. I have such a great system I almost want to make a video for the forum of the key steps. I really don’t pump anymore either, other than the 10 minutes before I start my session.I never get any edema from this, just some expansion and a great hard on which just gets even nastier once I put the clamp on. I only pump for long periods before sex or when I want a big bulge.

i avoid porn b/c i’ve always thought it was addictive, but perhaps i should start watching a little porn when i jelq instead of football and golf hahaha

04-29-2010, 07:03 PM

Corvo

Even though you didn’t see any measurable length or girth gains, did you see anything positive in terms of EQ from the kegals at least?

You made this post awhile ago.. seen anything since?

Start: Dec 2009 - 5.75 [BPEL] x 5.25 [MSEG] 5.5 [BASE]

April 2010 - 6.00 [BPEL x 5.3 [MSEG] 5.5 [BASE]

Current Goal: - 7.00 NBPEL x 5.75 [MSEG & BASE]

04-29-2010, 08:05 PM

jaylough

yes i believe i did but then again i thought i had gains in the length dept. EQ is essentially impossible to quantify though, but i think it was better. if that makes sense.

04-29-2010, 08:06 PM

jaylough

and i’m just studying up a little bit right now, took the past few days off so obviously nothing yet

04-29-2010, 08:22 PM

Corvo

Originally Posted by jaylough

and i’m just studying up a little bit right now, took the past few days off so obviously nothing yet

The initial thread was made in April. I was just curious if you had continued with your routine since then, or switched it up at all. I wouldn’t give up just yet. Switch up the routine until you find something that works. Some people just gain easily, but I’m sure everyone can with the correct routine.

Start: Dec 2009 - 5.75 [BPEL] x 5.25 [MSEG] 5.5 [BASE]

April 2010 - 6.00 [BPEL x 5.3 [MSEG] 5.5 [BASE]

Current Goal: - 7.00 NBPEL x 5.75 [MSEG & BASE]

04-29-2010, 08:26 PM

jaylough

have u made any gains yet corvo?

04-29-2010, 08:29 PM

17ml

Originally Posted by Chunk

I am just absolutely flabbergasted at how many people say they went months and years with their routine, and they didn’t get any gains, and ‘woe is me’. Then eventually the truth comes out that they ‘mostly’ stuck with their routine, but yeah, they missed ‘some’ workouts, or yeah, they were a ‘little’ inconsistent, or yeah, they were doing their jelqs, but doing them while they watch Celebrity Apprentice or whatever.

What in the hell would make you keep doing the same routine day after day for over a year if you were seeing NO CHANGE?

Do you really think 20 minutes of half-assed jelqing 4 days a week is going to FORCE your dick to adapt and GROW?

I shake my head in disbelief because if this shit was really THAT important to you, you would have listened to the vets, done your research, read the threads of the big gainers, and put in your time. You just wasted 14 months of your life and PE career that you will never get back, and I will tell you flat out it is because of sheer lack of real, directed, effort.

In December you were doing 30 mins of jelqs per session, and now you are on 20? Is that your winning progression?

Honestly, I have no patience for people with no commitment. And therefore I really don’t care if you gain or not. But if YOU care about gaining, here is a wake up call for you:

PE is your full time fucking job now. You arrange your social life and whatever it is you do outside of work, around PE. You don’t miss workouts. You don’t drop reps because the footie’s coming on and you want to finish up quick.

You devote full and complete concentration to what you are doing at all times and make every repetition count. No distractions.

You get off the routine you are on find a routine that has been proven to work by a gaining member. Read everything ever written by guys like Memento, Remek and others, the list is long, who are taking PE theory to a whole amazing level of understanding, and DOING ALL THE FUCKING MENTAL WORK FOR YOU!

You commit 100%. You concentrate on what you are doing.You watch your PIs. You push the envelope, the gains are on the fine line between Overwork/injury and Nothing. You think about what you are doing. You plan your work, and then work your plan.

Do you think that if this was easy and attainable at a time cost of an hour and a half a week of effort, the human worldwide average penis length would be in the 5s?

You do all this, and I challenge you come back on this thread in another 4 months and tell us nothing changed.

I have been doing PE for 5 months and haven’t taken a measurement yet either because visually I haven’t seen any gains. I plan on waiting for six months before taking a “formal” measurement. I have ED due to diabetes so I am usually pleasuring my wife when I do get an erection, so measuring takes a back seat. I have also been pumping for over four months and this is where I have seen definite gains - at least 1/4 inch pumped girth and perhaps a little EL gain. Even if my 6 month measurement shows no sustained gain, the pumped gains have truly improved my sex life.

In conclusion, a little PE variety is indeed the spice of my sex life.

04-30-2010, 03:13 AM

griff

Ads should be in your future….you’ll be putting time in while doing other stuff.

04-30-2010, 03:31 PM

curiousjo

Sad story jlo. I’d recommend hanging and clamping. And wear an ADS if you can.

04-30-2010, 04:18 PM

jaylough

what is ADS and where can i find info about it on this site?

04-30-2010, 04:40 PM

iwish6

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I have been doing PE for 5 months and haven’t taken a measurement yet either because visually I haven’t seen any gains. I plan on waiting for six months before taking a “formal” measurement. I have ED due to diabetes so I am usually pleasuring my wife when I do get an erection, so measuring takes a back seat. I have also been pumping for over four months and this is where I have seen definite gains - at least 1/4 inch pumped girth and perhaps a little EL gain. Even if my 6 month measurement shows no sustained gain, the pumped gains have truly improved my sex life.

Hey DT, just wondering about your pumping. Are you doing a regular consistent routine or is it just whenever? and your gains from pumping…its not permanent yet right? what kind of pump do you have? thanks man, im just interested bc I’m going to become a pumper soon :)