If you are looking to buy either of the above check out www.texasclays.com,
Buddy Loveless 210-688-7006 or 866-245-7809 Fax:830-537-5695 Cell: 210 508-7373

These are my guns that Buddy is trying to sell for me. The Kx5 was bought in Jan. 0f 2007. App. 10000 rounds shot through it . No alterations made.
The Beretta 687 Joel Etchens Spl. was bought in app. Sept or Oct of 2007.
Rich Kaysa cut and cast off the stock for right hand shooter and LOP.
Has adjustable butt plate installed.

I do not know if they are up on Buddy's web are not give him a call and make offer.