I just think that Jack Sparrow is more of a of a "doer" than anything else. Plus, once he has his boat and treasures or whatever material posessions he desires, he's perfectly content to just sit back and do nothing but drink and talk to girls. I don't see him theorizing about anything but I do see him being very clever and knowing what the best move to make is when there is something that he wants. ENTPs don't have a monopoly on cleverness.

Juno on the otherhand is nothing but talk. She doesn't really do anything except think and be clever for the sake of just being clever. Ideas seem to just spew out of her mouth but nothing is really being done. She seems completely satisfied with nothing but random/clever ideas. And I agree that she is boring and I actually hate her personality, but not all ENTPs are likable. I think she's a very unlikable version of an ENTP.

guess I can't really say with Juno, the movie bored me too much so I didn't even finish watching it, but my personal bias of being an ENTP and not relating to her at all and thinking she was a complete idiot makes me not want her to be an ENTP.

You got a point on Jack not sitting around theorizing but niether do I and don't see other ENTPs really doing it either thats more of an INTP thing. ENTPs may not have the title of doers but when we get an idea we want to go out and do it.

I think the seperation with Jack is whether he is more in the here and now, or seeing the big picture - and me personally I think he's more in the big picture mindset afterall he's always steps ahead of everyone else and up to bigger plans than what everyone thinks

I just think that Jack Sparrow is more of a of a "doer" than anything else. Plus, once he has his boat and treasures or whatever material posessions he desires, he's perfectly content to just sit back and do nothing but drink and talk to girls. I don't see him theorizing about anything but I do see him being very clever and knowing what the best move to make is when there is something that he wants. ENTPs don't have a monopoly on cleverness.

that's called being a 7 cleverness, you're right, but ENTPs do have a monopoly on the kind of crazy Ne/Ti shit that comes out of his mouth.

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guess I can't really say with Juno, the movie bored me too much so I didn't even finish watching it, but my personal bias of being an ENTP and not relating to her at all and thinking she was a complete idiot makes me not want her to be an ENTP.

You got a point on Jack not sitting around theorizing but niether do I and don't see other ENTPs really doing it either thats more of an INTP thing. ENTPs may not have the title of doers but when we get an idea we want to go out and do it.

I think the seperation with Jack is whether he is more in the here and now, or seeing the big picture - and me personally I think he's more in the big picture mindset afterall he's always steps ahead of everyone else and up to bigger plans than what everyone thinks

I think ESTPs are big picture thinkers too, but in a different way. Its not about big picture ideas/concepts/experiments its about big picture "schemes" to get a tangible results i would say. ESTPs are sometimes negatively stereotyped as the best conmen (which is basically what being the best pirate ever would be). Yeah, so ESTPs make great pirates. lmao.

that's called being a 7 cleverness, you're right, but ENTPs do have a monopoly on the kind of crazy Ne/Ti shit that comes out of his mouth.

No they dont. Thats just not true. And again, I see absolutely no Ne. He's clever, and his Ti is pretty apparent, but I don't see any Ne whatsoever. I know ENTPs really want Jack Sparrow to be one of them. Hell, I wish Jack Sparrow was whatever type I am just so I could claim him, but he's ESTP in my eyes. At least you guys have the Joker (although some say he's ENTJ).

oldest brother (has a son with Asperger's): INTJ
oldest sister (single mom, daughter is Amber): ENFP
lawyer sister (husband is a carpenter, have a daughter): ENTJ
youngest brother, has a son with a beautiful black girl: ENFP

(I'm terrible with names and haven't watched it in a few weeks, sorry.)

No they dont. Thats just not true. And again, I see absolutely no Ne. He's clever, and his Ti is pretty apparent, but I don't see any Ne whatsoever. I know ENTPs really want Jack Sparrow to be one of them. Hell, I wish Jack Sparrow was whatever type I am just so I could claim him, but he's ESTP in my eyes. At least you guys have the Joker (although some say he's ENTJ).

actually, I think the Joker is ESTP and Jack Sparrow is ENTP

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5w4>1w9>2w1 Sx/Sp
SEE-Fi
Papa Bear
Motivation: Dark Worker
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
Chibi Seme
MTG Color: black/red
Male Archtype: King/LoverSunburst! "You are a gay version of Gambit" Speed Gavroche"I wish that I could be affected by any hate, but I can't, cuz I just get affected by the bank" Chamillionaire