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BTW, I've heard/seen that Bill Clinton ad for Obama several times. He says we should stick with Obama's plan, because it will maintain a strong middle class, and that will lead to prospertiy. I have a question here: What is this plan?

I believe the original plan was all about the stimulus. (don't expect anyone will vote for another one of those, no matter who wins in 2012). We're going to let young illegals stay here and work. That ought to help a lot. We're going to continue to pursue alternative energy sources? (so energy costs will continue to rise?) Obamacare will move forward. This plan has not been working real well. Is there some NEW plan that I haven't heard of?

Now that you mentioned it, sounds like Obama stole most of the Republican's ideas, he stole Romney's health care plan, Bush's stimulus plan, and Rubio's immigration plan , maybe he's a Republican after all.

You act as if this guy has been president before and has an established record. Carzine is a perfect example of a rich guy that ran GS that was a total flop. Bain Capital and Goldman are not that different...same type of charactors run them. This thought that businessmen make good public leaders is false. The rules are to different. Just think, you have to get 200+ reps to agree with you and 50+ senators while everyone of them has a different agenda

You act as if this guy has been president before and has an established record. Carzine is a perfect example of a rich guy that ran GS that was a total flop. Bain Capital and Goldman are not that different...same type of charactors run them. This thought that businessmen make good public leaders is false. The rules are to different. Just think, you have to get 200+ reps to agree with you and 50+ senators while everyone of them has a different agenda

And Obama has proven over four years that he can't get even ONE democrat to vote in favor of one of his budgets.

You act as if this guy has been president before and has an established record. Carzine is a perfect example of a rich guy that ran GS that was a total flop. Bain Capital and Goldman are not that different...same type of charactors run them. This thought that businessmen make good public leaders is false. The rules are to different. Just think, you have to get 200+ reps to agree with you and 50+ senators while everyone of them has a different agenda

And most of those are lawyers or businessmen. Jimmy Carter was a businessman and Republicans just adored him. "W" was a businessman and he nearly ruined the country and everyone else. But, Republicans ain't so proud of him. They have a litter of kittens whenever his failed presidency is mentioned.

And most of those are lawyers or businessmen. Jimmy Carter was a businessman and Republicans just adored him. "W" was a businessman and he nearly ruined the country and everyone else. But, Republicans ain't so proud of him. They have a litter of kittens whenever his failed presidency is mentioned.

I LIKE GW and have no problem saying so. I'd probably vote for him again if he could run. Would certainly vote for him over the current failure (had a hard time coming up with a word that wouldn't get me banned).

Any doctrine that weakens personal responsibility for judgment and for action helps create the attitudes that welcome and support the totalitarian state.
(John Dewey)

Associate yourself with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for 'tis better to be alone than in bad company.
(George Washington)

And most of those are lawyers or businessmen. Jimmy Carter was a businessman and Republicans just adored him. "W" was a businessman and he nearly ruined the country and everyone else. But, Republicans ain't so proud of him. They have a litter of kittens whenever his failed presidency is mentioned.

Huh...over Gerald Ford ? just a little revisionist history...yup I really loved waiting in line for those odd/even gas rationing days..I dont know about the rest of the country because I was in college in Southern Calif, but we all thought he was just a dumb southern peanut farmer and wondered how he got the nomination and eventually the Presidency

All my Exes live in Texas

Originally Posted by lanse brown

A few things that I learned still ring true. "Lanse when you get a gift, say thank you and walk away. When you get a screwing walk away. You are going to get a lot more screwings than gifts"

Huh...over Gerald Ford ? just a little revisionist history...yup I really loved waiting in line for those odd/even gas rationing days..I dont know about the rest of the country because I was in college in Southern Calif, but we all thought he was just a dumb southern peanut farmer and wondered how he got the nomination and eventually the Presidency

Tongue in cheek, Bon. Those two guys are examples how a businessman is perfectly able to botch a presidency.