I'm a geek, and I like Arrow. It is a guilty pleasure, but a pleasure none the less. I think it's worthy of Smallville, another show that brought some cool moments in between the odd. Young folks are the only ones who can try to portray the intensity seen in most comics with a straight face. My generation is telling the stories My dad's generation began, and now it's time to let the kids play with it.

I enjoyed Arrow. Lots of actors I like have shown up in it, and it is rather good, especially past the first couple of episodes. Maybe Flash will turn out alright- though it might be a blink-and-you'll-miss-it thing.

This little pillowbiter is no Barry Allen. I've only caught a few episode of Arrow, and I'm rather meh on the guy playing Ollie. The laughable thing is, the dude who played Ollie on Smallville (SMALLVILLE, of all things) was a great early years GA. It would have been fantastic to see him on a GA show, slowly, over seasons, turning into the libby, van-dyke beard wearing, hardcore GA of the Neal Adams/Dennis O'Neil years.

I love Barry Allen. Although I like Wally, I prefer Barry. I'm a big Silver Age fan. My fear is that he's been cast as Barry, and they'll feel the need to make him 'edgy' because children demand edgy as though it's inherently more interesting. The Flash, any Flash, be it Jay, Barry, Wally, or Bart, is NOT an edgy character. None of them. They're all fairly easy going nice guys who love and have fun with what they do. And not in the same way the Punisher likes what he does.

My favorite scene on Arrow was in the first or second episode, where he ambushes a crime boss in a parking garage, shoots like 7 or 8 henchmen with his arrows, snaps a few of their necks, then gives the crime boss the whole "I'm not going to kill you, because then I'd be no better than you" speech.

Fark all you guys! A TV show just based on the Flash...oh yeah...I'm there. He was my favorite when I was growing up. He and the Eighth Man (obscure for most of young farkers). Both felt the need for speed.

serial_crusher:My favorite scene on Arrow was in the first or second episode, where he ambushes a crime boss in a parking garage, shoots like 7 or 8 henchmen with his arrows, snaps a few of their necks, then gives the crime boss the whole "I'm not going to kill you, because then I'd be no better than you" speech.

Sounds like I need to watch this show. I love shows that aren't even grounded within their own reality.

Add me to the list of people who prefer Wally. But then, Wally would make no sense as a character without Barry - or at least without Barry having existed first. Of course, now there is no Wally West in DC.

Still like the idea of a Flash show, though I would have preferred a movie in the DC movie universe rather than the TV version. The potential for clever, visually spectacular effects is great. The real problem, an inescapable one for the character, is how to keep him from winning every battle immediately and with little danger of failure.

snowshovel:serial_crusher: My favorite scene on Arrow was in the first or second episode, where he ambushes a crime boss in a parking garage, shoots like 7 or 8 henchmen with his arrows, snaps a few of their necks, then gives the crime boss the whole "I'm not going to kill you, because then I'd be no better than you" speech.

Sounds like I need to watch this show. I love shows that aren't even grounded within their own reality.

And if nothing else, they're not skimping on the fights/stunt budgets.

Walt_Jizzney:Arrow: the "Spartacus: Blood and Sand" of the comic book world. Amirite?

Spartacus = incredible show from start to finish. Maintained it's awesomeness through recasting of lead character. While Arrow is a great show, that even has Crixus on it. It's nowhere near the level of greatness that Spartacus was. And if you were attempting some sort of insult with this comparison, well shame on you.

DMZ DEATH:Walt_Jizzney: Arrow: the "Spartacus: Blood and Sand" of the comic book world. Amirite?

Spartacus = incredible show from start to finish. Maintained it's awesomeness through recasting of lead character. While Arrow is a great show, that even has Crixus on it. It's nowhere near the level of greatness that Spartacus was.And if you were attempting some sort of insult with this comparison, well shame on you.

Spartacus gets good? I watched the first couple episodes and it came off as a low-rent Rome impersonator, maybe I'll give it another shot.

Knobbs:LonMead: Freschel: meanmutton: Do people really want to see a Flash TV show?

Apparently people from the 90's did. The Flash

Well, maybe not see The Flash, per se...

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... but a hot scientist is always welcome.

Wait, she has glasses and her hair is up and messy. She CAN'T be hot.

Yeah, it had its moments. :-)

It would've been much better had they taken Mike "Wizard of Speed and Time" Jittlov up on his offer to do the SFX. Instead, it was one of, if not the, most expensive TV series in history, costing over a million (in 1990 $!) per episode, and the speed effects just weren't that good (basically being an exaggerated motion blur, but in many scenes he wasn't actually running faster than a normal person: taking a couple seconds to run across a room, for instance).

TuteTibiImperes:DMZ DEATH: Walt_Jizzney: Arrow: the "Spartacus: Blood and Sand" of the comic book world. Amirite?

Spartacus = incredible show from start to finish. Maintained it's awesomeness through recasting of lead character. While Arrow is a great show, that even has Crixus on it. It's nowhere near the level of greatness that Spartacus was.And if you were attempting some sort of insult with this comparison, well shame on you.

Spartacus gets good? I watched the first couple episodes and it came off as a low-rent Rome impersonator, maybe I'll give it another shot.

DMZ DEATH:Walt_Jizzney: Arrow: the "Spartacus: Blood and Sand" of the comic book world. Amirite?

Spartacus = incredible show from start to finish. Maintained it's awesomeness through recasting of lead character. While Arrow is a great show, that even has Crixus on it. It's nowhere near the level of greatness that Spartacus was. And if you were attempting some sort of insult with this comparison, well shame on you.

Crixus's character on arrow annoys the hell out of me. That whole island storyline needs to end.

1. Flash doesn't need super-strength to fight crime or a huge build with pecs and biceps everywhere.2. Flash does wear a skin-tight costume.

Therefore,

3. A Flash TV show where Flash is female, blond, hot, funny, and wears a red skin-tight costume to fight crime would be the most successful show that network has ever had.

Get a cute blonde tv star who can sound smart enough to be a forensics expert. Or not, as long as she is super-easy on the eyes and can act. Have Elisha Cuthbert, Jaime King or Dianna Agron do some yoga to bulk up her thighs a bit, and bam. Done.

Explain in episode 1 that she moves too fast (and shimmers when standing still) for video cameras to identify her, and then you don't need the costume to cover up her face.

If you can get Kristen Bell to show up as Reverse-Flash once in a while, fine. Hell, make all the villains female. She-Rogues robbing diamond wholesalers in sexy outfits, Alice Eve as Boomerang, a Gorilla City matriarchy! Damn, why am I giving this stuff away for free?

/ps Let me save you the expense in your eyebleach budget right now - do not GIS for "female flash cosplay".

serial_crusher:DMZ DEATH: Walt_Jizzney: Arrow: the "Spartacus: Blood and Sand" of the comic book world. Amirite?

Spartacus = incredible show from start to finish. Maintained it's awesomeness through recasting of lead character. While Arrow is a great show, that even has Crixus on it. It's nowhere near the level of greatness that Spartacus was.And if you were attempting some sort of insult with this comparison, well shame on you.

Crixus's character on arrow annoys the hell out of me. That whole island storyline needs to end.

That's my favorite part, whiny little sister is the part I want gone. "Where's Thea? Oh her? she's going to school in Europe. " then never mention her again.

Smackledorfer:TuteTibiImperes: DMZ DEATH: Walt_Jizzney: Arrow: the "Spartacus: Blood and Sand" of the comic book world. Amirite?

Spartacus = incredible show from start to finish. Maintained it's awesomeness through recasting of lead character. While Arrow is a great show, that even has Crixus on it. It's nowhere near the level of greatness that Spartacus was.And if you were attempting some sort of insult with this comparison, well shame on you.

Spartacus gets good? I watched the first couple episodes and it came off as a low-rent Rome impersonator, maybe I'll give it another shot.

To each their own, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

It is way,way,way over the top and I love it for that, especially John Hannah's Batiatus

1. Flash doesn't need super-strength to fight crime or a huge build with pecs and biceps everywhere.2. Flash does wear a skin-tight costume.

Therefore,

3. A Flash TV show where Flash is female, blond, hot, funny, and wears a red skin-tight costume to fight crime would be the most successful show that network has ever had.

Get a cute blonde tv star who can sound smart enough to be a forensics expert. Or not, as long as she is super-easy on the eyes and can act. Have Elisha Cuthbert, Jaime King or Dianna Agron do some yoga to bulk up her thighs a bit, and bam. Done.

Explain in episode 1 that she moves too fast (and shimmers when standing still) for video cameras to identify her, and then you don't need the costume to cover up her face.

If you can get Kristen Bell to show up as Reverse-Flash once in a while, fine. Hell, make all the villains female. She-Rogues robbing diamond wholesalers in sexy outfits, Alice Eve as Boomerang, a Gorilla City matriarchy! Damn, why am I giving this stuff away for free?

/ps Let me save you the expense in your eyebleach budget right now - do not GIS for "female flash cosplay".

Or they could make a Tachyon show./hot like crashing the moon into Earth

CodeMonkey4Life:It is way,way,way over the top and I love it for that, especially John Hannah's Batiatus

When I first watched my brother watching it, at a glance it looked retarded.

He insisted I watch a couple episodes, and I've seen every single one and loved it. It is over the top, but done so in a manner with a style that works. Also, we are in a comic book thread, so I would hope the farkers in here would grant that over-the-top ridiculous stylings have an art value all their own :)

JosephFinn:snowshovel: serial_crusher: My favorite scene on Arrow was in the first or second episode, where he ambushes a crime boss in a parking garage, shoots like 7 or 8 henchmen with his arrows, snaps a few of their necks, then gives the crime boss the whole "I'm not going to kill you, because then I'd be no better than you" speech.

Sounds like I need to watch this show. I love shows that aren't even grounded within their own reality.

And if nothing else, they're not skimping on the fights/stunt budgets.

I have to say Arrow is good in the action sequences. It's just the soap opera dialogue and pacing that's putting me off. Maybe things will pick up once he gets his Arrowcar.

CodeMonkey4Life:serial_crusher: DMZ DEATH: Walt_Jizzney: Arrow: the "Spartacus: Blood and Sand" of the comic book world. Amirite?

Spartacus = incredible show from start to finish. Maintained it's awesomeness through recasting of lead character. While Arrow is a great show, that even has Crixus on it. It's nowhere near the level of greatness that Spartacus was.And if you were attempting some sort of insult with this comparison, well shame on you.

Crixus's character on arrow annoys the hell out of me. That whole island storyline needs to end.

That's my favorite part, whiny little sister is the part I want gone. "Where's Thea? Oh her? she's going to school in Europe. " then never mention her again.

I'm ok with this. And give felicity an excuse to take off her glasses an diet down her hair and show some cleavage. Send her undercover as a bikini model or something.

1. Flash doesn't need super-strength to fight crime or a huge build with pecs and biceps everywhere.2. Flash does wear a skin-tight costume.

Therefore,

3. A Flash TV show where Flash is female, blond, hot, funny, and wears a red skin-tight costume to fight crime would be the most successful show that network has ever had.

Get a cute blonde tv star who can sound smart enough to be a forensics expert. Or not, as long as she is super-easy on the eyes and can act. Have Elisha Cuthbert, Jaime King or Dianna Agron do some yoga to bulk up her thighs a bit, and bam. Done.

Explain in episode 1 that she moves too fast (and shimmers when standing still) for video cameras to identify her, and then you don't need the costume to cover up her face.

If you can get Kristen Bell to show up as Reverse-Flash once in a while, fine. Hell, make all the villains female. She-Rogues robbing diamond wholesalers in sexy outfits, Alice Eve as Boomerang, a Gorilla City matriarchy! Damn, why am I giving this stuff away for free?

/ps Let me save you the expense in your eyebleach budget right now - do not GIS for "female flash cosplay".

They've got a spunky black girl as Flash of the future in the Justice League Beyond comics right now.