Charlie Cooper

It is good to remember they are human and that personal abuse is never acceptable but it's also good to remember we are a paying public and are entitled to an opinion if I was to pay to go to the cinema and an actor gave a poor performance I'm well within my rights to have an opinion and if the director had been his dad I am entitled to theorise that he was only given the part for that reason just as others are entitled to tell me they think I'm wrong. Public criticism is the price players pay for doing something most of us could only dream of and they are well paid for it. Paying to watch these players doesn't give us the right for personal abuse but it does give us the right to an opinion on their quality.

Fair point tommyd, but I always ask myself before I post something about someone whether I would be prepared to say it to their face, or in a case like this our whole first team squad. There is a big difference between saying something like "I wish player x would get to the byline and put in more crosses" and something that might be considered a personal verbal assault or even bullying. I like the old saying about when you have nothing good to say it is often better to say nothing, it has served me well through my life.

Regardless of a person’s merits or ability, I would argue it’s never a good idea bringing in family to the workplace. The fact is Cooper has never left his son out of the team if available and never substitutes him. This means that Charlie Cooper must be one of the elite top performing players which for me is clearly not the case.Mark Cooper seems an obstinate person so dropping his son or moving him out would be an admission of defeat.

Earl wrote:Regardless of a person’s merits or ability, I would argue it’s never a good idea bringing in family to the workplace. The fact is Cooper has never left his son out of the team if available and never substitutes him. This means that Charlie Cooper must be one of the elite top performing players which for me is clearly not the case.Mark Cooper seems an obstinate person so dropping his son or moving him out would be an admission of defeat.

Sorry Earl, Charlie Cooper has been substituted 6 times this season so far and 6 times in his half season 16/17.

The stats for this season are telling/unfortunate depending on your view.

Has anyone worked out how the stats work out for last season or have I missed that? Towards the end of last season I was beginning to see his value.

He is still young and may well prove his detractors wrong in the medium term. Personally I think that he would benefit from a longer break from the firing line than his suspension already provides. He may then have a struggle to get back into the team given the new signings.

Tommo wrote:The stats for this season are telling/unfortunate depending on your view.

Has anyone worked out how the stats work out for last season or have I missed that? Towards the end of last season I was beginning to see his value.

He is still young and may well prove his detractors wrong in the medium term. Personally I think that he would benefit from a longer break from the firing line than his suspension already provides. He may then have a struggle to get back into the team given the new signings.

About time we stopped spending so much time discussing Charlie Cooper and focussed on encouraging ALL of our players to maintain our status in Division 2. Charlie will play a part for the rest of the season and will need us to support him and the rest of the squad.

tommyd wrote: if I was to pay to go to the cinema and an actor gave a poor performance I'm well within my rights to have an opinion and if the director had been his dad I am entitled to theorise that he was only given the part for that reason just as others are entitled to tell me they think I'm wrong. Public criticism is the price players pay for doing something most of us could only dream of and they are well paid for it. Paying to watch these players doesn't give us the right for personal abuse but it does give us the right to an opinion on their quality.

The difference of course being that if you choose to yell at the screen, the actors can't hear you - when people yell at Charlie from the stands, he can.

I respect everyone's 'right' to have an opinion on anything, but I question their right to air it aggressively at a person trying to do their 'job of work'. I am not of course accusing you of doing this tommyd...!

tommyd wrote: if I was to pay to go to the cinema and an actor gave a poor performance I'm well within my rights to have an opinion and if the director had been his dad I am entitled to theorise that he was only given the part for that reason just as others are entitled to tell me they think I'm wrong. Public criticism is the price players pay for doing something most of us could only dream of and they are well paid for it. Paying to watch these players doesn't give us the right for personal abuse but it does give us the right to an opinion on their quality.

The difference of course being that if you choose to yell at the screen, the actors can't hear you - when people yell at Charlie from the stands, he can.

I respect everyone's 'right' to have an opinion on anything, but I question their right to air it aggressively at a person trying to do their 'job of work'. I am not of course accusing you of doing this tommyd...!

I agree with you 100% when they are out on the pitch they should always be supported.

tommyd wrote: if I was to pay to go to the cinema and an actor gave a poor performance I'm well within my rights to have an opinion and if the director had been his dad I am entitled to theorise that he was only given the part for that reason just as others are entitled to tell me they think I'm wrong. Public criticism is the price players pay for doing something most of us could only dream of and they are well paid for it. Paying to watch these players doesn't give us the right for personal abuse but it does give us the right to an opinion on their quality.

The difference of course being that if you choose to yell at the screen, the actors can't hear you - when people yell at Charlie from the stands, he can.

I respect everyone's 'right' to have an opinion on anything, but I question their right to air it aggressively at a person trying to do their 'job of work'. I am not of course accusing you of doing this tommyd...!

I agree with you 100% when they are out on the pitch they should always be supported.

Right!

I ended up just laughing at the guy on Saturday who, every time Manny Monthe got near the ball - sometimes before he even had a chance to get to it, said "For Christ's sake Monthe!". When I hear players being slagged off so much by our own support I just so want them to play a blinder....

Manny didn't have a great game on Saturday in an unfamiliar role, but he did ok.

Personally I wouldn't say he is a wing back but his defensive instincts meant no weak link in defence. But hesitation upfield and no crosses told the story.

Back to Charlie Cooper and he could be a good cog in the new look wheel.

On another note, I came down to Swindon on Saturday with a guy I'm in the social network with at the moment. He's a life long swindon fanny. Him and the other bloke were the 2 founder members of the London STFC supporters club in the early 80s. The STFC goalkeeper at one time was graham scott, who is reffing Chelsea v Norwich on the telly. Apparently there are 3 premier league swindon town supporting referees....

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