>>120849530They didn't Sister, like the rest of the family were generated to try and communicate with Lain. After the Wired moved to the next tier, or upgraded, I forget what they call it, the 'sister' computer couldn't connect anymore. When she was 'on the phone' that was her dial-up connection failing to reach the new server, it's why Lain and her could not talk anymore.

>Be program to unlock the collective unconscious>Succeed in my task>Everyone hates me for it.>Realize that existing causes people pain, and thus retcon myself out of existence, while still completing my task.

Lain is so based.http://fauux.neocities.org/invlain.htmlhttp://lain.xq3.ru/http://www.cjas.org/~leng/lain.htm

>>120850156This show is amazing enough that it can survive through the dub treatment, but you're really depriving yourself if you're not listening to Kaori Shimizu as Lain. And apparently it was her first role.

>>120849175you have to look shit up to "get" lain. I'm not trying to insult it or anything, it's one of my favorite shows, but what you get when you watch it is atmosphere and enjoying the mystery of it all. It's because people hype it as "deep" that you get people hating on it.same thing with eva, you watch for the atmosphere and some action (which is why I think the remakes kind of ruined it but that's another discussion). the difference with lain, and why I think it's better, is there is actually something to get, even if you have to look it up. eva is mostly stuff anno thought up one night when he was high or something.

btw I'm only comparing the two because they both are often called deep on the internet, they're not really that similar otherwise.

>>120849175honestly i understood most of it just by watching the show, its confusing at the start but everything gets explained.1 exception was the episode where her sister is tripping balls the whole episode, sees herself then shatters into glass. i had to have that explained to me cause i had no idea what the fuck that was at first.

>>120849936why does every sub call her Arisu and not Alice, it says Alice as her name right on her phone. i know it sounds like arisu cause japs cant pronounce the L/E but its clearly supposed to be Alice.

>>120851593>implying Lain wearing a bear suit isn't sexy>implying you don't imagine her naked under the bear suit>her delicate nipples rubbing on the soft fabric until they're nice and stiff>her skin getting goosebumped as a draft of cold air blows down her hood

>>120852359yeah thats how its pronounced by the japanese VAs cause their Ls sound like Rs, but in the show itself it shows on Alice's phone the name ALICE in english, its her intended name rather than Arisu like the subs use.

>>120852480I was actually talking about how Lain herself said her nameWhat immediately springs to mind is in the police office when she says "A... ri... su..." over and overSo although it would be Alice, Lain pronounces every single kanji separately so often that I guess they just subbed it that way, grew on me over the series anyway

Why is watching Lain so unsettling? The atmosphere is eerie and unconfortable, like a psychological horror anime but Lain is not really a horror anime.Every episode made me anxious somehow.What the fuck Lain, is your power that strong?

>>120853380That alien episode, THAT FUCKING ALIEN EPISODEMade me remember the time when I was a kid watching OFU "documentaries" late at night on Discovery/History Channel and pissing my pants in fearayy lmao

Is the wired supposed to be fundamentally technologically different from our real Internet? Was kind of confused about it.

>>120852090>1 exception was the episode where her sister is tripping balls the whole episode, sees herself then shatters into glass. i had to have that explained to me cause i had no idea what the fuck that was at first.Yeah, what the fuck was that

My problem with SEL was that half the stuff shown makes no goddamn sense. Why was the alien wearing the Freddy Krueger shirt? Why did Lain have the alien body at one point? What was the point of the alien peaking in? What happened to her sister?

I mean, I understand the general plot, but there was just so much stuff that had no meaning whatsoever.

>>120855642Most of those scenes are meant to show the permeation of the wired into reality. It's like an amalgamation of information that Lain absorbed from the internet. Take the alien, for instance: it is a combination of the urban legend that was mentioned earlier in the series about someone being watched by a short person in a striped sweater and all of the Area 51 conspiracy theories that were briefly focused on.

>>120855475>Is the wired supposed to be fundamentally technologically different from our real Internet? Was kind of confused about it.This was made in 1998. They were theorizing on what the internet could potentially become.

>>120849175every time i see a series that /a/ complains that it was too confusing, i end up having to look up if i actually didnt understand because i was expecting some horrible mind fuck.so it was all just about the real world fusing with the internet?thats it?its nice that it was foreshadowed every 3 seconds of every single episode but its not very compelling as a series.

>>120855642>Why was the alien wearing the Freddy Krueger shirt? To look more incomprehensible, less threatening, and so that you knew that there wasn't literally an alien in the plot.>Why did Lain have the alien body at one point?there’s Alice, who helps her out and confides in her, only to later on have her secrets exposed and suffer for it, because Lain was watching her every thought [nsa reference], she even later on sees Lain as a literal alien – a way of symbolising how Lain had totally derailed her understanding of who Lain actually was with her actions. >What happened to her sister?That's a tricky question and I don't have a simple or coherent answer for it.

>>120855861>so it was all just about the real world fusing with the internet?>thats it?No. That's just the context in which the show explores a broad series of philosophical, psychological and social issues as well as speculation about the future of the internet.

>>120852090I don't believe you got the whole effect if you didn't look anything up. I'm not doubting your intelligence but the show is incredibly dense and obtuse about its themes (even more so than the narrative) and often to understand them outside knowledge is required. The only theme that is really spelled out is "I only exist in memories/ if no one remembers it doesn't happen," but the show makes many other statements.

Another fun part of researching the show is discovering all the tidbits of information about the show.

Half the fun of the show is hearing other people's interpretations of the narrative and other literary elements.

>>120855948her sisters mind was hacked by the knights to sabotage lain's computer equipment, after that they left her a blubbering mess.whether or not shes human or another program is a different question.

What the fuck was the KIDS project all about?How can Lain have a physical body is she is a computer sofware?Lain killed the Knights after she rebelled against them? How?The physical world merges with the Wierd or only peoples minds merge?

>>120856572found this site that I used when I first watched it, hard to get to without this link (the google result is busted)its designed like garbage with okay infohttp://lain.angelic-trust.net/wired.html

>>120856901all of reality is merging with the wired, thats why lain(and the God guy before he gets rekt) can morph all of reality itself by the end.KIDS if i remember correctly was about linking multiple human consciousness through technology. one of the main themes is how we are all connected. Later on the methods from KDIS are applied to the wired through satellites by the God guy and Lain

>>120855932I get what you mean, but to me the characters themselves aren't that interesting in eva, their only defining feature is how they're fucked up in different ways. that's ok considering alot of the show is about that but I would like a bit more development. It's also kind of jarring how some characters like shinji and rei get a good amount of development while other feels really one-dimensional, especially the side characters. and the new girl they added to the remakes is just unbearable, she doesn't even have one dimension of character, she just shows up at random and does things. It's weird because you can argue that the characters in lain are weak/lifeless, but it plays so well into the story that it works.

>>120856901>May I ask the questions now?Hmm.>What the fuck was the KIDS project all about?It's a Macguffin designed to give as sense of scientific credibility to the earlier scene in which children see an image of Lain in the sky, which in turn symbolizes relationship children have with the internet.>How can Lain have a physical body is she is a computer sofware?Does she? Is she?>Lain killed the Knights after she rebelled against them? How?The men in suits had some involvement in that, didn't they?>The physical world merges with the Wired or only peoples minds merge?That depends on whether you think we're brains in a vat or not.

>>120856901>What the fuck was the KIDS project all about?This is highly speculative, but I think it was the groundwork that led to the Lain project, and why she was made a child specifically. The main basis of it was to establish that children were more sensitive to paranormal things and thus were noticing the merger of the Wired and reality before adults.>How can Lain have a physical body is she is a computer sofware?Her body is just a shell. They repeat this many times from the very beginning of the show. A biological human computer to house the program, that's what her body was. She was created specially to bring the Wired and reality together, which is why she was able to exist in that way while the guy who made her, "God", was not. His influence over the Wired waned as Lain's grew, and that's why he was destroyed by her in the end. >Lain killed the Knights after she rebelled against them? How?She didn't kill them, she merely revealed their identities to the suits who were hunting them. They killed the knights. Lain just exposed them and facilitated the murders.>The physical world merges with the Wierd or only peoples minds merge?The rules of reality become overwritten by the rules of the Wired. People's "memories" become data on a network that can be freely viewed and edited by anyone with administrative clearance, (i.e. god status, like Lain). It's why she was able to simply reset thing things by changing peoples memories. If nobody remembered a thing, it's like it never was.

>>120856901>The physical world merges with the Wierd or only peoples minds merge?It's implied that the last change in internet protocol uses Schumann resonance to allow people to interact online using the signals from their very minds. Not actually possible in reality, but it's a cool idea.

>>120857482A good comparison is GitS. It also deals with a merger of the cyber and the reality, but rather than changing the net to function on the same level as human thought, it's about changing the human mind to interact with the net as an electronic sea of information. Literally computerizing the brain, and detaching the self from the body by turning it into a machine.

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