Player Comparison: Larry Fitzgerald. You would think Fitz and Crabtree would be brothers based on their similar frames. Both receivers have a knack for getting the football at its apex on jump balls and making the circus catch.

lol what similar frame?

doesn't larry have like 3 inches and 20 pounds on him

2 inches and 4lbs

not the point saying any guy should be drafted because he compares to this guy or that guy is dumb because every player is different.

This is what bugs me about the combine, IMO if you really want to know how fast the guy will be on the football field you should have each player start in as close to the real pre-snap stance they use on the field.

WRs standing up one foot behind the other
RBs flatfooted shoulder width apart
DL one hand in the dirt and leaning on their toes
etc

the fact that we have them starting at a stance that is totally irrelevant to football only increases the disparity between the trackstar athletes and the football players.

RBs should have two times:
1. Get handoff and explode up the middle
2. Get handoff sweep and turn the corner

Running a 4.41 on a different track is misleading. There's so many factors that could enhance that number. I tend to take the hand timings at the combine as his true speed. Between 4.45 and 4.51. At 5'11 196 pounds that's enough speed to get it done and we know he plays that fast in pads too.

The one problem I have with him is I don't like Big 12 receivers. Good Youtube videos generally not the receiver they were in college. It's spread offense and bad defense.

Originally posted by tjd808185:
Running a 4.41 on a different track is misleading. There's so many factors that could enhance that number. I tend to take the hand timings at the combine as his true speed. Between 4.45 and 4.51. At 5'11 196 pounds that's enough speed to get it done and we know he plays that fast in pads too.

The one problem I have with him is I don't like Big 12 receivers. Good Youtube videos generally not the receiver they were in college. It's spread offense and bad defense.

hes not like crabtree

he relies on speed to get separation which is definitely plentiful

abd who cares what track he runs on

on every football field he ran in he was the fastest player on the field

on every football field he ran in he was the fastest player on the field

Clearly in Indy he wasn't, and he will be going through Indy more often then Baylor now. On a level playing field he was out done. Not that his 40 is the most important thing but having all the guys run in 1 place means more to me then running on a school track. Indy is the closest thing to measurable neutrality at this point.

on every football field he ran in he was the fastest player on the field

He is like Crabtree in that he plays in a system that gets the ball into his hands primarily thru alot of bubble screens hence the inflated receptions. He's like Crabtree in that he's played in a horrible defensive conference that often puts out overrated receivers. I admit he's got decent speed but his route running didn't look that impressive at the Combine.

The point on the track is simple. 4.41 at one track could possibly translate to 4.45 at the combine. I don't think he's as fast as you think he is. He's fast enough though and I stated that in my post. You brought up comparisions to Greg Jennings before. Jennings was a 4.46. I think that's a pretty fair comparision the question becomes is he as fluid as Jennings is at route running? That remains to be seen.

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