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Re: Tower of God Chapter 184 Spoilers - Will Be Online 23rd March

wow. i cant wait for the translation.. holy crap what powerful spear^^ and we get to know whos behind the mask.. maybe someone we knew? or is he just the shadow of Mad Dog, who got his own life through poken's piece? or its another pit dog of yama

Re: Tower of God Chapter 184 Discussion/185 Predictions

So Reflejo looks down on Baam after he activated the thorn & lost his hostage. Shows how SIU continues to use the stupid tropes ~_~" I held Reflejo in high regards seeing he was not underestimating Baam even when the thorn was dormant, & he had his hostage... but afterwards when the hero gets powerup villain loose his brain. So like Aizen... such bullshit. This arc continues to get worst seeing how lackluster & uncreative this battles are. I even gulped down the fact that SIU used deus ex machina to solve the hostage problem but...

Re: Tower of God Chapter 184 Discussion/185 Predictions

The thorn is red & is influencing control of shinsoo emitting red light. The best controller of shinsoo is probably ranker number 2 and he is known for two things: "killing a guardian" ... and shinsoo becoming red in his presence. I don't think it's a coincidence

Re: Tower of God Chapter 184 Discussion/185 Predictions

Baam could likely posess a guardian now, since reflejo said it chose baam, and can influence/control shinsoo and has nearly god-like power. Guardian are gods in the tower. The tower also chose baam same as the thorn so, i conclude that the soul of the guardian is in the thorn.

Re: Tower of God Chapter 184 Discussion/185 Predictions

Originally Posted by NzmAnhDee

Baam could likely posess a guardian now, since reflejo said it chose baam, and can influence/control shinsoo and has nearly god-like power. Guardian are gods in the tower. The tower also chose baam same as the thorn so, i conclude that the soul of the guardian is in the thorn.

perhaps... in the past he transformed the guardin in a living ignition weapon xD it would explain the size of the spear

Re: Tower of God Chapter 184 Discussion/185 Predictions

Having a thorn that acts as a guardian is pretty useful. It appears as though we're arriving at the conclusion of the workshop battle. Reflejo didn't appear to stand a chance after the thorn started to take action.

Re: Tower of God Chapter 184 Discussion/185 Predictions

Even though Reflejo was seemingly disposed of, we were only given a shot of Reflejo's mask breaking, and I don't think he's quite ready to quit yet. Didn't he mention he'll disappear if he used up all his power? I think his mask could be a container of the Poken's piece or a limiter of some sort, so with the mask broken he might finally show his full strength. Gotta agree not much brain was involved in the fight though (I'm looking at you, Aguero!), and too much talking.

SIU has finally released some interesting facts regarding the Thorn, being able to turn red and affect the Shinsoo flow around it, which does seem to match the Red Tower's ability. I'm thinking the thorn used to be part of the Guardian killed by Enryu (its horn, maybe?), and has absorbed some of the properties of Enryu's Shinsoo when it was bombarded by his Spears of Shinsoo (I'm guessing that's what happened). That would explain FUG's confidence over its capability to kill one of the 10 family heads or Zahard himself: their immortality & invincibility was granted by the Guardians, so it made sense that the Guardians themselves could have killed them, coupled with Enryu's unusual Shinsoo properties (which was known to have greater control over Shinsoo than even the Guardian itself), and one who could weild its full power would have much higher chance to kill off one of the 10 family heads or Zahard.

On a side note, I read on one of the wiki that there's a rare talent called plus tendency, where when one creates more rooms or 'bang's of Shinsoo, instead of having the total amount of Shinsoo spreading thin among all the rooms, each of these rooms would contain the same amount of Shinsoo (same myun & soo). I'm thinking Enryu possesses such talent (being able to create >9000 rooms, when even High Rankers were averaging 50~100 rooms), so it would be really interesting to see if the Thorn shares this ability as well.

Re: Tower of God Chapter 184 Discussion/185 Predictions

Can't tell for sure about what happened at the end of the chapter. We see a red spear going through Reflejo. But was it actually the Thorn that physically expanded or was it a shinsoo beam coming from Viole's fist?

Re: Tower of God Chapter 184 Discussion/185 Predictions

Originally Posted by braveheart655

Can't tell for sure about what happened at the end of the chapter. We see a red spear going through Reflejo. But was it actually the Thorn that physically expanded or was it a shinsoo beam coming from Viole's fist?

Think it's both, the Thorn expanded behind him and a spear-like thing appeared from his fists in front, the position of the two red lines would be weird if they were both the same thing.

Originally Posted by urishino

Even though Reflejo was seemingly disposed of, we were only given a shot of Reflejo's mask breaking, and I don't think he's quite ready to quit yet. Didn't he mention he'll disappear if he used up all his power? I think his mask could be a container of the Poken's piece or a limiter of some sort, so with the mask broken he might finally show his full strength. Gotta agree not much brain was involved in the fight though (I'm looking at you, Aguero!), and too much talking.

SIU has finally released some interesting facts regarding the Thorn, being able to turn red and affect the Shinsoo flow around it, which does seem to match the Red Tower's ability. I'm thinking the thorn used to be part of the Guardian killed by Enryu (its horn, maybe?), and has absorbed some of the properties of Enryu's Shinsoo when it was bombarded by his Spears of Shinsoo (I'm guessing that's what happened). That would explain FUG's confidence over its capability to kill one of the 10 family heads or Zahard himself: their immortality & invincibility was granted by the Guardians, so it made sense that the Guardians themselves could have killed them, coupled with Enryu's unusual Shinsoo properties (which was known to have greater control over Shinsoo than even the Guardian itself), and one who could weild its full power would have much higher chance to kill off one of the 10 family heads or Zahard.

On a side note, I read on one of the wiki that there's a rare talent called plus tendency, where when one creates more rooms or 'bang's of Shinsoo, instead of having the total amount of Shinsoo spreading thin among all the rooms, each of these rooms would contain the same amount of Shinsoo (same myun & soo). I'm thinking Enryu possesses such talent (being able to create >9000 rooms, when even High Rankers were averaging 50~100 rooms), so it would be really interesting to see if the Thorn shares this ability as well.

I would probably say that the thorn is actually one of Enryu's spears, a weapon created by an irregular who can disobey the laws of the Tower should achieve the same effect as what you're suggesting. That last panel as well as the thorn's colour do seem to point to it being related more to Enryu than the Guardian. Though that would raise the question of why that spear out of the 9000+ which Enryu can create was the only one left.

Re: Tower of God Chapter 184 Discussion/185 Predictions

Think it's both, the Thorn expanded behind him and a spear-like thing appeared from his fists in front, the position of the two red lines would be weird if they were both the same thing.

I would probably say that the thorn is actually one of Enryu's spears, a weapon created by an irregular who can disobey the laws of the Tower should achieve the same effect as what you're suggesting. That last panel as well as the thorn's colour do seem to point to it being related more to Enryu than the Guardian. Though that would raise the question of why that spear out of the 9000+ which Enryu can create was the only one left.

Maybe its the last spear, that killed the guardian? Leftover of the Guardianpower sucked into the spear on his death?