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Re: Claymore 126 Spoiler Thread

Pics already? Well, Gooral said somebody already had the new issue...hell, we'll probably get the chinese scan tomorrow.

They are descended from Dragons?....Yeah, nobody has thought on that one before

Still, I guess it's nice for these things to finally be confirmed and have a true answer....till now after all, it's been completely unknown how exactly the Org generates base Yoma; it looked like they made them from nothing, but now we have a definitive answer.

Definitely another revelation chapter....what I mean is, now the enigma of the Yoma is truly explained since we know how they were being made; the mystique for that is gone as well :/

I suppose it's a perspective thing though - some people may say the "magic" of things isn't lost when it's secrets are revealed and/or it's actually grounded in science...I suppose I can understand that, and I know from a story-perspective it was going to happen eventually...one of those things though where, the time has come, so I guess we'll see how we make of it.

At any rate, I'm happy this looks like an all-talking chapter...because, as much as we want to get to Claire/Priscilla, their are way way too many loose-ends behind...hopefully Yagi actually gets to them.

That giant head Miria is looking at that's chained down....who is that? It's not Isley, despite the resemblence...it's past 2am though over here, so my brain is probably malfunctioning.

The cool thing is, we may actually get to see Dragons again in this chapter....it's certainly been a very long time.

Google translate of the first spoiler:
After the end of the words 125 words, delaying 10 words long, Shida Fu war finally came to an end, however, the truth is not the case.
It all just a conspiracy is a simple action within the organization because of an evil plan, so take the step.
Take the base to the sisters expressed their yearning for affection with his beloved wife rabbit, yet the mistress of two stayed things to hide tightly. Everyone bang scored within the organization, but it find Lie Mutuo and other people had disappeared.
The other side, Daye reveal the strange smile, belly black Lu Lu stabbed with a dagger down in a pool of blood.
Hard for so long, take a rest. "He said.
Then, from the pregnant inside, he pulled out less than half the hand, "Because of this, I will have been so crazy ......" Then, a shadow in disarray left Shida Fu.
Everyone in the Shida Fu, a stone room, and found the same thing is crawling around, and carries the breath of life, the shape of eggs.
Is doubt, a strong Yaoqi upgrade, some of the things like the flowing leg tilting hatched (from the shape like the spider). Everyone off guard, suffered heavy casualties, training students are nearly all killed -
Through hard work, Mili Ya, who finally wiped out the front of the monster group, take the base of tears, like death, like his wife. To make matters worse, as a man, one of his parts later after a strong blow, has lost its inherent physiological functions.
Mili Ya burst of a sigh. In front of this man, perhaps known as the man.
And the fusion of the hand, the man in a sense can be called soldiers.
DeVito slowly forward and patted the shoulders to take the base.
"Never mind, take the base," she said: "defensive you should still be able to grow out of."
Side of Helen is desperately nodded, just has been no talk of Taba Sha head to pull down the seventeen black line.
Take-based Poti smile, a storm, a few people together, and finally embarked on the road to find rabbit -

Personally, my favorite bits were "everybody bang scored within the Organization", though I quite like that pregnant part

On the other hand, I'm not crazy for making innuendo jokes but this bit....To make matters worse, as a man, one of his parts later after a strong blow, has lost its inherent physiological functions.

I feel bad for any man whose part "lost it's inherent physiological functions"

Ahem, anyway, I'm guessing the man is Raki - what gets my attention is that bit about the arm and now being able to be called "soldiers"....this could actually reveal that Raki is indeed now truly superhuman because of Priscilla's arm....which was very likely - even if Priscilla's massive yoki and the Rods corruptive yoki both flushed out of his system, their were surely going to be some residual effect...the chances of him being enhanced in some way outweighed the chances of him still being purely human, despite my preference for the latter.

The ending looks like they are going to find Rabbit (Claire )

You know, there are as many ways to live as there are people in this world...and each one deserves a closer look.

Re: Claymore 126 Spoiler Thread

Gene, first off, nice to see you here

Secondly...relax - unless your language skills are revealing something about this chapter, I think it goes without saying that Claymore can't end anytime soon...that's....well, that's ridiculous for a trillion and one reasons.

Now yes, I suppose you could argue that, with the Fall of Staff, big events are happening...but obviously, Claymore isn't ending anytime soon.....I mean, unless something is or has happened to Yagi in real life, I can't imagine any sort of abrupt premature ending to Claymore.

Unless you actually have the chapter, which I don't know....let's wait and see what happens

You know, there are as many ways to live as there are people in this world...and each one deserves a closer look.

Re: Claymore 126 Spoiler Thread

@Shiek
It might be an announcement saying that Claymore will end in the next 5 chapters. Chapter 126 begins volume 23rd so I'm sure Yagi will fill it up with content. Although he could do some Extra Scenes, who knows but my 'educated' guess is that we will get at least 5 new chapters. It also might be that Yagi will end Claymore with 126th chapter and start Claymore 2 taking the story to the mainland and DoD. And I'm sure Gene has the chapter already.

As for this revelation, I was actually pretty close when I wrote this on Animesuki:The [Organization's] trump card (...) is a youma queen hidden in the darkest corner of MiB's HQ from which all the youma energy has it's source and once she's killed everyone would become normal again and MiB would have to begin their research from scratch. This idea was derived from Raciella's incident where she could control and give energy to hellcats (we don't know what would happen to them once Raciella died, probably they wouldn't also die but who knows).

To which Ryus replied:

Originally Posted by Ryus

I like parts of the idea... but uh... ... how did they org keeps it's yoki hidden from everyone? or does it choose to suppress it own yoki? Also how/what do they feed it? Argh... I suppose all my issues with it are logistical and could be explained away later.

Which is a good point to the actual thing we're seeing in the spoiler pic. How come no one noticed it? And if Miria knew about it's existence why did she bullshit everyone about some hidden village and ore and not just tell them she had seen this DoD?

Re: Claymore 126 Spoiler Thread

Well it would make sense that they were descended from dragons (actually descended from the dragon-kin). In war its pretty common the back engineer enemy technology and turn it against them. The organization would have had to get their base material from somewhere, the most obvious choice is the very creatures they are fighting against. There have been a ot of tells after the dragon-kin were mentioned. One big one was in the Yoki sensing aspect, a fairly useless skill if your enemy had a different type of power then you're own. Also, some yoma had the ability to fly...hint hint much ^^

Theory time

Yoma are probably the result of hybridizing humans directly with dragon-kin(or possible a baby form of dragon-kin). Then you take that creatures flesh and dilute it further by splicing it with a human, which results in a Claymore. If Yoma are hyrbrid's The dragon-kin's cells may be dominate in nature, in a 50/50 split the cells overtake the creature they are placed inside resulting in a creature that is half dragon-kin and half human, with instincts that lean more towards the former. The result of this forced mutation however is stable, always resulting in the same hybridized creature. That might be the result of some stability mechanisms in the dragons bodies, similar to the growth inhibitors found in most mammals. Next you take that Yoma and use it's flesh to create a Claymore. The Claymore itself is designed to purposely lack this control mechanism and as the claymore matures into it's adult phase it goes through a singular uninhibited growth cycle which is called awakening. The Yoma/Dragon cells go out of control and consume the host organism, changing it into a creature Like but superior(in some cases I'd say) to all former members.

We actually see this kind of thing in Hybrid animals, Tiger/Lion hybrids are perfect examples. The Tiglon (lioness+Tiger) Receives two growth inhibiting gene's passed down from the male tiger and the female lion and never surpasses the size of either animal. The Liger on the other hand (Lion+Tigeress) doesn't receive any growth inhibiting gene since neither parent in this coupling passes that gene, its opposite gender member does. The result is an absolutely huge cat with females bigger then the males of either parent specie and males that a freaking enormous.

The Organization was trying to make controllable "Super dragon-kin" using genetic tinkering similar to this concept. They achieved the goal with AB's, broke the mold with AO's (and Prissy) and nearly perfected the technique with Alicia and Beth. Well that is is any of this is based in anything remotely genetic or science like ^^ it may be all crazy and magical for all i know.

Last edited by SaphG1; April 28, 2012 at 02:07 AM.
Reason: typos of course ^^

Re: Claymore 126 Spoiler Thread

@SaphG1
You're making a common mistake. There are no dragon-kins in Claymore. Let me quote Cyclone:

Originally Posted by Cyclone

Oh good grief - this again?
There is no Dragons' kin - there never was. Blame blind (the translator).
There is no "Dragonic tribe" (though it's close) - blame 10sigh for this one.

The term was - and always has been - "ryuu no matsuei no ichozoku" meaning "tribe/race of the descendants of dragons".
These DoDs (for short) are one race on the enemy's side. The enemies side does not have a name (neither does the Org's side).

Or:

Originally Posted by ergon

They restored my partial translation actually...but its like ten pages back now

"but one force took a non-human race, with extremely tough skin, who are actually called the descendants of dragons, into their allies" is what I thought it meant at first, then I thought "...you could almost say they are descended from dragons..." was better...but looking at it again, I think what it really says is

"but one force took a non-human race into their allies, with such hard, tough skin that they could be said to have descended from dragons."

Pretty much, theres no dragons, these guys are just really really tough. Hence the need for indestructible swords.

Re: Claymore 126 Spoiler Thread

Yep looks like Claymore has ended and hope there is Claymore 2 coming ..
Spoiler 2's translation says at the end "Complete"
From Google Translate:

Quote:

Standing next to watch the two organizations
One of them said very satisfied with the results
Emilia and get the base finished speaking
Into the tissue and the other two internal search
Emilia find a basement
There are very huge, as if awakening something
May be the Descendants of the Dragon
Probably guess with the manufacture of soldiers
Emilia destruction there
To declare the end of the organization
Complete

Re: Claymore 126 Spoiler Thread

Wow... just woke up all happy hoping for more spoilee info but to get "Claymore End" is a bloodly buzzkill.

I hope the series 2 speculation is true and/or us getting a few more chapaters before it does since this is a horrible place to end. Im starting to fear the worst that the publisher cancled the series in x chapters and Yagi ended it as best as he could in that time... if the ratings of Claymore of late are any indication I fear series 2 wont happen... but I know Im being pessimestic. The timing of this and the events on AS are just too close for me not to feel assholes are conspiring... I bet its the org

Re: Claymore 126 Spoiler Thread

Claymore's rankings weren't that bad. But what's more important volumes sold really well and not many manga sold better (even some WSJ titles sell less than Claymore). So I doubt it would be cancelled because of this. If anything I would think that Yagi became tired with the story or maybe wasn't satisfied with what he's done and decided to end it before it would get even worse. But to be honest I'm sceptical that it's the end. That doesn't make sense at this moment. Also, usually there is a prior notice before sth like that happens. And Yagi will still have to come up with about 150 pages to fill the volume unless volume 22nd would be extra large.