Treasurer is going to e-mail the membership body to sign up for this Freshbooks things. It would be really nice to use an invoicing system to track whether or not people have paid their dues; makes the Treasurer's volunteer work easier.

It is not excellent to admit someone to Noisebridge unless you are willing to take responsibility for their actions here.

It is excellent to do-ocratically remove someone who is being un-excellent from the space, pending mediation.

If you are removed from the space for being un-excellent, it is not excellent to return until you have done mediation.

Tom proposed this one. After a discussion of issues, these things were in agreement, and these things represent how the community feels about noisebridge. Wants to raise them to see if they are the Consensus of Noisebridge.

Kelly agrees with all four of those statements but thinks none of them should go to consensus and will block all of them. She says it is excessive codification.

Jesse provides context: person hanging around was picking apart how Noisebridge doesn't codify this is a hackerspace, so he can do whatever he wants. Jesse brought it up last week and got feedback from community that this person was wrong.

Peter: define hacking. Has used this space to teach and learn skills. Does that come under hacking?

Kelly: quick response. On our wiki is a vision page that describes hacking.

Description on front page of wiki is not an official consensus, but is in practise.

Kelly & Tom don't disagree on the substance of the statements but on whether or not to Consense on the statements.

miloh is anti-cruft.

Rayc suggests them as recommendations.

Some would like to outline recommendations on the wiki but nothing officially consensed.

Value to consenting as a group: reduced level of confusion.

Btw, this is not result of policywonks discussion. Policywonks is completely unaffiliated.

People are already following these standards and may not need these consensed to continue their behavior.

What is a hacker: Hacker Manifesto and ____.

Rachel: Not everything we consense on becomes a rule. Not all consensus items are rules, sometimes just one-time statements we make. Something like this would be providing clarity to people.

We are skirting the dead-end discussion of WHAT IS HACKING?

We can do-ocratically add these things to the wiki without making a Consensus.