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Alan Jones taken to court by GetUp

Oh, Really?

The article:

Jones has said that human beings produce .001 per cent of the carbon dioxide in the air.

Sure the anonymous journos didn’t misrepresent?

Or maybe Jones is referring to the fact that CO2 makes up 0.039% of our atmosphere, and that many sources (here’s one) state human contribution thanks to industrialisation and whatever is 3% (3.225%) of that 0.039%.

Voila?

0.039% x 0.03225 = ?

Actually, it’s 0.039093% of the atmosphere is CO2 if anyone wants to get really technical. Or if the atmosphere=1, CO2=0.00039093

A trace gas indeed.

Even if you take the alarmist “we contribute 28% of atmospheric CO2” line, rather than the 3% or 5% line, it still equals sweet eff all.

Alarmist view: Our CO2 = 0.0001094604 or 0.01094604 per cent of the atmosphere.

In other words, 0.01% of the atmosphere is nasty human C02 if you take the global-warming-is-real-and-it’s-our-fault-line.

The concentration of the gas CO2 in the atmosphere is ~0.04% of all gases. Humans are responsible for 3%. Therefore of the 0.04% humans account for 0.001%. The other 0.039% is all natural CO2.

Also “They base this on the difference between the pre-industrial concentration of CO2 (about 280 parts per million) and the current concentration of about 390 parts per million.. ”

Note: 390-280=110ppm and this is ~28% of the 390ppm. GetUp! is trying to say that from pre-industrial to now nature hasn’t released any CO2 into the atmosphere. They are telling us that the entire 110ppm is human based. GetUp! is the group which needs to be investigated and then shut down.

GetUp is actually getting some heat from some of its members on this one.

A fair few people who signed up ages ago for the main purpose of fighting Labor’s mandatory internet censorship scheme and those who believe in defending Julian Assange’s right to freedom of speech aren’t so sure that using the instruments of the State to silence those with whom you disagree is really that much of A Good Thing™.

bingbing:
I note that you use unreferenced assertions on climate change denial site to justify your post. Even taht site however claims human contribution to atmospheric co2 is 3225 times the level that Alan Jones has asserted.

The ONLY referenced quote on the page comes from one Dr Wallace Broecker.
I would like to post another quote from him, “The climate system is an angry beast and we are poking it with sticks.”

“0.039093% of the atmosphere is CO2″ Yes, and a very important part it is.
When green glants first evolved, they sucked that 0.039093% of co2 from the atmospher, and the planet froze over from pole to pole, even at the tropics.

The earth swung backwards and forwards between frozen to ice free again and again until a balance was struck between plant and animal respiration.

spot the dog:
“aren’t so sure that using the instruments of the State to silence those with whom you disagree”

It’s not about silencing disagreement. It is about silencing those who broadcast out and out lies.
If ALan Jones wants to say that climate change is absolute bunk, he has the right to say so.
He does NOT have the right to make up lies and present them as the truth.

If out-and-out lies bothered y’all that much, you’d be on Julia’s case first and foremost. “There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead” – remember that? You’d be going after every ABC talking head who repeated the lie that “Australia is the world’s biggest per capita ‘carbon polluter’.” You’d have taken the “Terry Lane” liars to court, or any number of others.

No, this is solely about using the instruments of the State to intimidate and silence those whom you see as your ideological enemies. Pure and simple. And you’re not fooling anyone.