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03-28-2013 01:28 PM

n122vu

I bought a 2010 SES back in October 2012 from a Ford dealership in town. I recently tagged a curb very hard, flattening a left front tire. Last week the dealership ordered me 2 new tires (Dunlop). They installed yesterday, and today when I left work for lunch the low tire pressure warning came on. If I'm understanding some of the responses in this thread, it's because they did not install the sensor-compatible valve stems as well as sensors in these new tires.

Being a Ford dealership, and that this is a federally mandated system, is that not only something they should have known about and performed, but also informed me of ahead of time when I purchased the tires?

**EDIT** Disregard - seems one of the new tires had a bead that was messed up. Said it either came that way or they messed it up when putting it on. Getting me a new one overnighted, hoping to have it in time to put it on before they close at noon tomorrow.

12-28-2012 02:28 PM

jeff_nc

Quote:

Originally Posted by suss6052

Had you driven it more than 20 miles at a time? I think that might be the triggering threshold according to what I've heard (i.e. after 20 miles continuously the car starts to fully record the tpms sensor error). I'm not 100% certain on that at the moment as my car has the original wheels and sensors on it right now and thus doesn't throw any tpms errors.

Boy, if that's true I would call it bad design. I live in a small town and rarely drive farther than 15 miles without stopping. With that design, I could go for weeks without knowing I have a low tire.

12-28-2012 01:26 PM

suss6052

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff_nc

Thanks for this info, suss6052. I understand the system a lot better now.

So the question is, do I need to take the car in to have the system checked? I have driven the car about 40 miles on the new wheels and still no light.

Had you driven it more than 20 miles at a time? I think that might be the triggering threshold according to what I've heard (i.e. after 20 miles continuously the car starts to fully record the tpms sensor error). I'm not 100% certain on that at the moment as my car has the original wheels and sensors on it right now and thus doesn't throw any tpms errors.

Im not sure I understand your post....your valve stems are the sensor ..or they aren't... you cant install the sensors into the valve stems at a later date becasue the stem itself has it built in.Sounds to me like they installed proper valvestem/sensor already

No, they only installed valve stems that could accept sensors at a later date. The stems were $4 each, the sensors were like $40 each, so I passed. If I got sensors for $4 I would be REALLY happy!

12-28-2012 12:22 PM

Vernl

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff_nc

Just put winter tires and steel wheels on my Focus. The tire dealer installed valve stems that would work with sensors, but not the sensors themselves. I was expecting the warning light to come on, but, nada, zilch, zip.

The light comes on when I start the car, then goes out just like it did before. Any ideas?

Im not sure I understand your post....your valve stems are the sensor ..or they aren't... you cant install the sensors into the valve stems at a later date becasue the stem itself has it built in.Sounds to me like they installed proper valvestem/sensor already

12-28-2012 11:53 AM

jeff_nc

Thanks for this info, suss6052. I understand the system a lot better now.

So the question is, do I need to take the car in to have the system checked? I have driven the car about 40 miles on the new wheels and still no light.

12-27-2012 09:32 PM

suss6052

Per the owners guide:

Quote:

Understanding your tire pressure monitoring system (TPMS)
The tire pressure monitoring system measures pressure in your four road
tires and sends the tire pressure readings to your vehicle. The low tire
pressure warning light will turn on if the tire pressure is significantly low.
Once the light is illuminated, your tires are under-inflated and need to be
inflated to the manufacturer’s recommended tire pressure. Even if the light
turns on and a short time later turns off, your tire pressure still needs to
be checked

Direct tire pressure monitoring systems measure, identify and warn the driver of low pressure. Because direct systems have a sensor in each wheel, they generate accurate warnings and can alert the driver instantly if the pressure in any one tire falls below a predetermined level due to rapid air loss caused by a puncture. In addition, direct tire pressure monitoring systems can detect gradual air loss over time. Some direct systems use dashboard displays that provide the ability to check current tire pressures from the driver's seat.

Direct systems attach a pressure sensor/transmitter to the vehicle's wheel inside the tire's air chamber. Most Original Equipment and some aftermarket systems attach their air pressure sensor/transmitter to special tire valves. While the presence of a metal clamp-in valve typically identifies the presence of a direct tire pressure monitoring system, special snap-in rubber valves have also been used to support direct system sensors. The transmitter's signal is broadcast to the in-car receiver and the information is displayed to the driver.

The BCM monitors the tire pressure in the 4 road tires with tire pressure sensors that communicate the tire pressure via radio signals to the BCM. The tire pressure sensors are battery operated and mounted to the valve stems. All of the controlling software for the TPMS is contained in the BCM. The IPC illuminates the TPMS warning indicator and the message center displays a message when a fault is present or when the tire pressure falls below the low pressure limit.

Quote:

TPMS Sensor

Each of the 4 TPMS tire pressure sensors contain a battery, a tire pressure sensor and a radio transmitter. The TPMS sensor radio transmissions are sent approximately once every 60 seconds when the vehicle speed exceeds 32.2 km/h (20 mph).

This last quote from the factory service manual states that the sensors send off signals once every 60 seconds above 20 mph.

12-27-2012 09:19 PM

Deftmetal

It makes sense to me. I don't choose to believe so many people have sensors that don't work. Like you said I've read it a lot

12-27-2012 09:15 PM

suss6052

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deftmetal

The sensors are passive and the car doesn't need a signal saying all is well

The sensors are not passive. Why do people keep saying this? They need to detect movement in order to function properly, therefore how can they be considered passive?

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