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Broseph saidMy dad too (and now my mom). It also started with Limbaugh in his car. Huh.

Me, too. And I'm not talking about my parents, I'm talking about ME listening to Limbaugh.

It started when I had to drive long distances to visit US Army Reserve Units, often in very rural areas like in Oklahoma. I'd get a rental car from the nearest regional airport I flew into, and all we had then was conventional AM/FM in cars, not satellite that I listen to now.

Reception was poor, the music poorer and full of static. But talk I could hear well enough. And there was Rush, everywhere I drove, and better than the Christian preachers screaming hellfire & damnation, my other option.

And he sounded sincere & reasonable, at least back then, and so I listened. Except, when I thought through what he was saying it was full of false reasoning, and all kinds factual and rhetorical flaws. I finally stopped listening and had to be content with CW caterwauling.

So that car radio exposure to Limbaugh actually turned me against him, rather than becoming brainwashed. But I believe a lot of people do view radio & TV personalities as authority figures, and turn-off whatever critical thinking skills they may possess. And then the brainwashing commences.

That hateful leftist, who sought out publicly funded scientists for opinions on science matters.

That hateful leftist, who begged the leaders not to use war to advance the profit margins of oil and mineral companies.

That hateful leftist, who thought democracy could be improved by increasing the number of people who vote.

That hateful leftist, who found no use for 31-round clips in semi-automatic firearms.

That hateful leftist, who sought a public school education not gouged by austerity, overemphasis on varsity sports, hobbled by religious/rightwing editing of textbooks, or turned into a competition for funding based upon test scores.

That hateful leftist, who remembers that mentally disabled people used to have a home to go to--rather than an overpass or aqueduct.

That hateful leftist, who despite their aversion to war, thought the decent thing to do was to take care of our veterans' medical needs (including mental health care), as well as help them in job placement once they returned to civilian life.

That hateful leftist, who is tired of minor drug offenses being used to ensnare and incarcerate (for ridiculous durations) a disproportionate number of poor minorities, all while the prison system is being turned for-profit.

That hateful leftist, who wouldn't let himself be quieted by the fucking right-wing assholes who demand docility in exchange for a seat in discussions.

That's right, righties, keep fanning yourselves at our audacity to be pissed at the shit you squeeze out on civilization.

tj85016 saidBill and Chuck, every time I check that damn channel, it's some retired idiot pilot with some conjecture about something he has no idea about.

Other than Anderson Cooper (who I like), CNN has become the Death and Destruction Channel, they're consumed by it

Andy Borowitz reported three weeks ago that CNN apologized to its viewers for cutting away momentarily from the Malaysian plane story to cover something going on someplace in Europe. The Crimean peninsula. They weren't sure why it was important.

tj85016 saidBill and Chuck, every time I check that damn channel, it's some retired idiot pilot with some conjecture about something he has no idea about.

Other than Anderson Cooper (who I like), CNN has become the Death and Destruction Channel, they're consumed by it

Andy Borowitz reported three weeks ago that CNN apologized to its viewers for cutting away momentarily from the Malaysian plane story to cover something going on someplace in Europe. The Crimean peninsula. They weren't sure why it was important.

a few weeks ago I was visiting my aunt in NJ, after dinner she puts on the TV . . . CNN is on.

tj85016 saidBill and Chuck, every time I check that damn channel, it's some retired idiot pilot with some conjecture about something he has no idea about.

Other than Anderson Cooper (who I like), CNN has become the Death and Destruction Channel, they're consumed by it

Andy Borowitz reported three weeks ago that CNN apologized to its viewers for cutting away momentarily from the Malaysian plane story to cover something going on someplace in Europe. The Crimean peninsula. They weren't sure why it was important.

CNN may be the ultimate "offender", but this mentality (or, more accurately, tactic) seems to be prevalent on all the "news" networks based on what we see when we are forced to confront them..... in the gym, in the clubhouse, etc. We don't watch much TV in realtime (movie channels and PBS being exceptions) so we don't have to endure the ads. But we play a game: when there's breaking news or a special report, IS IT actually breaking news or a "special" report in any way? Maybe it's just because we're THIS old, but we remember when "breaking news" or "special reports" really WERE.

And if you get us started on the low intellect and high ignorance on the part of the majority of news reporters and anchors these days, we could be here forever!

tj85016 saidBill and Chuck, every time I check that damn channel, it's some retired idiot pilot with some conjecture about something he has no idea about.

Other than Anderson Cooper (who I like), CNN has become the Death and Destruction Channel, they're consumed by it

Andy Borowitz reported three weeks ago that CNN apologized to its viewers for cutting away momentarily from the Malaysian plane story to cover something going on someplace in Europe. The Crimean peninsula. They weren't sure why it was important.

a few weeks ago I was visiting my aunt in NJ, after dinner she puts on the TV . . . CNN is on.

She says "I'm so sick and tired of this god damn plane"

And yet..... she watches! There are, always, the channel changer and also the off buttons.