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Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

The more I watch of QB Ryan Tannehill the more I like him. He is still fairly new to the QB position in college having played WR at Texas A&M. I see NFL accuracy all over his tape. He is able to thread a needle. Why some College QB's Im left wondering if they can hit small windows I dont worry about that with Tannehill because I can see it. He has the NFL body standing 6'5", very athletic and Mobile with his backround at WR. He is becoming a must Tape breakdown for me at QB. Right now Id put him 3rd right behind Luck and Barkley and I could see him moving up. My early Top 5 of draft eligible QB's

1. Andrew Luck Stanford

2. Matt Barkley USC

3. Ryan Tannehill Texas A&M

4. Aaron Murray Georgia

5. Landry Jones Oklahoma[/quote] I'm glad Aaron Murray gets some love, because the kid is good.. Hes the reason i really believed in GA this yr, but it looks as if its not enough to put them over the top..
The Question i want to ask u is what is your top 5 RB's and WR's..

[/quote]is tyler bray eligible next year for draft? it says sophomore but if he was redshirted he's eligible right?
[/quote] I think that is right...
[/quote]good to know. i liked hime before today but love him after. we need a new start[/quote]Bray is not draft eligible. Murray is, he red shirted a year[/quote] Greatone was saying next yr.. Are u saying next yr, or this yr brays not eligible?

Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

I think our injuries are just to killer this yr, and i think were gonna be picking higher then we have in some time, so a diffrent group of first rounders is gonna really start garnering my attention...Not that i think our season is 100pct toast, just a possibility with the injury's we've suffered, which are catastrophic... If we ended up picking say 10th overall, i wonder if we'd pick a Alshon Jeffery if he were there? Something tells me if we picked 10th overall, we'd take Vontaze Burfict, and i really think hes gonna be a guy high on our list this yr... If we pick 10th, were probably getting a whole new regime coaching wise as well.. I'd love to get Bill O'brien in here, the guy knows offense, and i'd love to see a non gilbride offense..

Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

[quote user="nycsportzfan"] I think our injuries are just to killer this yr, and i think were gonna be picking higher then we have in some time, so a diffrent group of first rounders is gonna really start garnering my attention...Not that i think our season is 100pct toast, just a possibility with the injury's we've suffered, which are catastrophic... If we ended up picking say 10th overall, i wonder if we'd pick a Alshon Jeffery if he were there? Something tells me if we picked 10th overall, we'd take Vontaze Burfict, and i really think hes gonna be a guy high on our list this yr... If we pick 10th, were probably getting a whole new regime coaching wise as well.. I'd love to get Bill O'brien in here, the guy knows offense, and i'd love to see a non gilbride offense..
[/quote]Thats the thing if we pick that high there will be a new staff,new philosphy. Who knows what they will want. One things for sure though they will draft there own young QB.

Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

The more I watch of QB Ryan Tannehill the more I like him. He is still fairly new to the QB position in college having played WR at Texas A&M. I see NFL accuracy all over his tape. He is able to thread a needle. Why some College QB's Im left wondering if they can hit small windows I dont worry about that with Tannehill because I can see it. He has the NFL body standing 6'5", very athletic and Mobile with his backround at WR. He is becoming a must Tape breakdown for me at QB. Right now Id put him 3rd right behind Luck and Barkley and I could see him moving up. My early Top 5 of draft eligible QB's

1. Andrew Luck Stanford

2. Matt Barkley USC

3. Ryan Tannehill Texas A&M

4. Aaron Murray Georgia

5. Landry Jones Oklahoma[/quote] I'm glad Aaron Murray gets some love, because the kid is good.. Hes the reason i really believed in GA this yr, but it looks as if its not enough to put them over the top..
The Question i want to ask u is what is your top 5 RB's and WR's..

[/quote]is tyler bray eligible next year for draft? it says sophomore but if he was redshirted he's eligible right?
[/quote] I think that is right...
[/quote]good to know. i liked hime before today but love him after. we need a new start[/quote]Bray is not draft eligible. Murray is, he red shirted a year[/quote] Greatone was saying next yr.. Are u saying next yr, or this yr brays not eligible?
[/quote]Bray cant be drafted till 2013.

Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

The more I watch of QB Ryan Tannehill the more I like him. He is still fairly new to the QB position in college having played WR at Texas A&M. I see NFL accuracy all over his tape. He is able to thread a needle. Why some College QB's Im left wondering if they can hit small windows I dont worry about that with Tannehill because I can see it. He has the NFL body standing 6'5", very athletic and Mobile with his backround at WR. He is becoming a must Tape breakdown for me at QB. Right now Id put him 3rd right behind Luck and Barkley and I could see him moving up. My early Top 5 of draft eligible QB's

1. Andrew Luck Stanford

2. Matt Barkley USC

3. Ryan Tannehill Texas A&M

4. Aaron Murray Georgia

5. Landry Jones Oklahoma[/quote] I'm glad Aaron Murray gets some love, because the kid is good.. Hes the reason i really believed in GA this yr, but it looks as if its not enough to put them over the top..
The Question i want to ask u is what is your top 5 RB's and WR's..

[/quote]is tyler bray eligible next year for draft? it says sophomore but if he was redshirted he's eligible right?
[/quote] I think that is right...
[/quote]good to know. i liked hime before today but love him after. we need a new start[/quote]Bray is not draft eligible. Murray is, he red shirted a year[/quote] Greatone was saying next yr.. Are u saying next yr, or this yr brays not eligible?
[/quote]meant this year but i guess not. doubt we look for a replacement but you never know and im with you on paying more attention to the higher first round prospects

The more I watch of QB Ryan Tannehill the more I like him. He is still fairly new to the QB position in college having played WR at Texas A&M. I see NFL accuracy all over his tape. He is able to thread a needle. Why some College QB's Im left wondering if they can hit small windows I dont worry about that with Tannehill because I can see it. He has the NFL body standing 6'5", very athletic and Mobile with his backround at WR. He is becoming a must Tape breakdown for me at QB. Right now Id put him 3rd right behind Luck and Barkley and I could see him moving up. My early Top 5 of draft eligible QB's

1. Andrew Luck Stanford

2. Matt Barkley USC

3. Ryan Tannehill Texas A&M

4. Aaron Murray Georgia

5. Landry Jones Oklahoma[/quote] I'm glad Aaron Murray gets some love, because the kid is good.. Hes the reason i really believed in GA this yr, but it looks as if its not enough to put them over the top..
The Question i want to ask u is what is your top 5 RB's and WR's..

[/quote]is tyler bray eligible next year for draft? it says sophomore but if he was redshirted he's eligible right?
[/quote] I think that is right...
[/quote]good to know. i liked hime before today but love him after. we need a new start[/quote]Bray is not draft eligible. Murray is, he red shirted a year[/quote] Greatone was saying next yr.. Are u saying next yr, or this yr brays not eligible?
[/quote]meant this year but i guess not. doubt we look for a replacement but you never know and im with you on paying more attention to the higher first round prospects
[/quote] Ya, i'm thinking based off only the one week we've seen so far, which isn't a whole lot to go with, that the GIANTS could(hopefully not), be a 10th-12th picking team in this yrs draft... If that were true(hopefully not), then the handful of guys this very early on i'd be thinking alot about(of course could change through season) are

Vontaze Burfict LB Arz St- As much as i love goff, this guy is just a animal!

Alshon Jeffery wr s.carolina- If he were to make it to us, it'd be very hard to not pair him with Hakeem, plus Hakeem seems brittle, and Mario is a FA soon(right?), and we don't have much after that, unless barden comes back soon and shows us what hes made of..

Dre Kirkpatrick CB Bama- Teaming Kirkpatrick with Prince, would be something, and possibly re-sign TT for cheap because of his injury... WOW! Then were talking!

Matt Kalil OT U.S.C- Our Oline looked wretched, and even though we got some nice young players there in Petrus and Brewer, we still could go get a OT early on to really try and solidify the positon and depth...

The more I watch of QB Ryan Tannehill the more I like him. He is still fairly new to the QB position in college having played WR at Texas A&M. I see NFL accuracy all over his tape. He is able to thread a needle. Why some College QB's Im left wondering if they can hit small windows I dont worry about that with Tannehill because I can see it. He has the NFL body standing 6'5", very athletic and Mobile with his backround at WR. He is becoming a must Tape breakdown for me at QB. Right now Id put him 3rd right behind Luck and Barkley and I could see him moving up. My early Top 5 of draft eligible QB's

1. Andrew Luck Stanford

2. Matt Barkley USC

3. Ryan Tannehill Texas A&M

4. Aaron Murray Georgia

5. Landry Jones Oklahoma[/quote] I'm glad Aaron Murray gets some love, because the kid is good.. Hes the reason i really believed in GA this yr, but it looks as if its not enough to put them over the top..
The Question i want to ask u is what is your top 5 RB's and WR's..

[/quote]is tyler bray eligible next year for draft? it says sophomore but if he was redshirted he's eligible right?
[/quote] I think that is right...
[/quote]good to know. i liked hime before today but love him after. we need a new start[/quote]Bray is not draft eligible. Murray is, he red shirted a year[/quote] Greatone was saying next yr.. Are u saying next yr, or this yr brays not eligible?
[/quote]meant this year but i guess not. doubt we look for a replacement but you never know and im with you on paying more attention to the higher first round prospects
[/quote] Ya, i'm thinking based off only the one week we've seen so far, which isn't a whole lot to go with, that the GIANTS could(hopefully not), be a 10th-12th picking team in this yrs draft... If that were true(hopefully not), then the handful of guys this very early on i'd be thinking alot about(of course could change through season) are

Vontaze Burfict LB Arz St- As much as i love goff, this guy is just a animal!

Alshon Jeffery wr s.carolina- If he were to make it to us, it'd be very hard to not pair him with Hakeem, plus Hakeem seems brittle, and Mario is a FA soon(right?), and we don't have much after that, unless barden comes back soon and shows us what hes made of..

Dre Kirkpatrick CB Bama- Teaming Kirkpatrick with Prince, would be something, and possibly re-sign TT for cheap because of his injury... WOW! Then were talking!

Matt Kalil OT U.S.C- Our Oline looked wretched, and even though we got some nice young players there in Petrus and Brewer, we still could go get a OT early on to really try and solidify the positon and depth...

Jonathan Martin OT Stanford- See Kalil....
[/quote]would love any of those guys especially the first 2. burfict ..man idk dudes just nasty and something our LBr corp has missed for a loong time and dre is perfect for the giants and like you said him,prince,tt,and webby..do it! lol

The more I watch of QB Ryan Tannehill the more I like him. He is still fairly new to the QB position in college having played WR at Texas A&M. I see NFL accuracy all over his tape. He is able to thread a needle. Why some College QB's Im left wondering if they can hit small windows I dont worry about that with Tannehill because I can see it. He has the NFL body standing 6'5", very athletic and Mobile with his backround at WR. He is becoming a must Tape breakdown for me at QB. Right now Id put him 3rd right behind Luck and Barkley and I could see him moving up. My early Top 5 of draft eligible QB's

1. Andrew Luck Stanford

2. Matt Barkley USC

3. Ryan Tannehill Texas A&M

4. Aaron Murray Georgia

5. Landry Jones Oklahoma[/quote] I'm glad Aaron Murray gets some love, because the kid is good.. Hes the reason i really believed in GA this yr, but it looks as if its not enough to put them over the top..
The Question i want to ask u is what is your top 5 RB's and WR's..

[/quote]is tyler bray eligible next year for draft? it says sophomore but if he was redshirted he's eligible right?
[/quote] I think that is right...
[/quote]good to know. i liked hime before today but love him after. we need a new start[/quote]Bray is not draft eligible. Murray is, he red shirted a year[/quote] Greatone was saying next yr.. Are u saying next yr, or this yr brays not eligible?
[/quote]meant this year but i guess not. doubt we look for a replacement but you never know and im with you on paying more attention to the higher first round prospects
[/quote] Ya, i'm thinking based off only the one week we've seen so far, which isn't a whole lot to go with, that the GIANTS could(hopefully not), be a 10th-12th picking team in this yrs draft... If that were true(hopefully not), then the handful of guys this very early on i'd be thinking alot about(of course could change through season) are

Vontaze Burfict LB Arz St- As much as i love goff, this guy is just a animal!

Alshon Jeffery wr s.carolina- If he were to make it to us, it'd be very hard to not pair him with Hakeem, plus Hakeem seems brittle, and Mario is a FA soon(right?), and we don't have much after that, unless barden comes back soon and shows us what hes made of..

Dre Kirkpatrick CB Bama- Teaming Kirkpatrick with Prince, would be something, and possibly re-sign TT for cheap because of his injury... WOW! Then were talking!

Matt Kalil OT U.S.C- Our Oline looked wretched, and even though we got some nice young players there in Petrus and Brewer, we still could go get a OT early on to really try and solidify the positon and depth...

Jonathan Martin OT Stanford- See Kalil....
[/quote]would love any of those guys especially the first 2. burfict ..man idk dudes just nasty and something our LBr corp has missed for a loong time and dre is perfect for the giants and like you said him,prince,tt,and webby..do it! lol
[/quote]

I know Ive worried about Burflict's character, expecially here in New York where those types of flaws are amplified. But, geeze that kid bring a load with him every tackle he makes is vicious. I cant help but think his play may outweigh the negatives.

The more I watch of QB Ryan Tannehill the more I like him. He is still fairly new to the QB position in college having played WR at Texas A&M. I see NFL accuracy all over his tape. He is able to thread a needle. Why some College QB's Im left wondering if they can hit small windows I dont worry about that with Tannehill because I can see it. He has the NFL body standing 6'5", very athletic and Mobile with his backround at WR. He is becoming a must Tape breakdown for me at QB. Right now Id put him 3rd right behind Luck and Barkley and I could see him moving up. My early Top 5 of draft eligible QB's

1. Andrew Luck Stanford

2. Matt Barkley USC

3. Ryan Tannehill Texas A&M

4. Aaron Murray Georgia

5. Landry Jones Oklahoma[/quote] I'm glad Aaron Murray gets some love, because the kid is good.. Hes the reason i really believed in GA this yr, but it looks as if its not enough to put them over the top..
The Question i want to ask u is what is your top 5 RB's and WR's..

[/quote]is tyler bray eligible next year for draft? it says sophomore but if he was redshirted he's eligible right?
[/quote] I think that is right...
[/quote]good to know. i liked hime before today but love him after. we need a new start[/quote]Bray is not draft eligible. Murray is, he red shirted a year[/quote] Greatone was saying next yr.. Are u saying next yr, or this yr brays not eligible?
[/quote]meant this year but i guess not. doubt we look for a replacement but you never know and im with you on paying more attention to the higher first round prospects
[/quote] Ya, i'm thinking based off only the one week we've seen so far, which isn't a whole lot to go with, that the GIANTS could(hopefully not), be a 10th-12th picking team in this yrs draft... If that were true(hopefully not), then the handful of guys this very early on i'd be thinking alot about(of course could change through season) are

Vontaze Burfict LB Arz St- As much as i love goff, this guy is just a animal!

Alshon Jeffery wr s.carolina- If he were to make it to us, it'd be very hard to not pair him with Hakeem, plus Hakeem seems brittle, and Mario is a FA soon(right?), and we don't have much after that, unless barden comes back soon and shows us what hes made of..

Dre Kirkpatrick CB Bama- Teaming Kirkpatrick with Prince, would be something, and possibly re-sign TT for cheap because of his injury... WOW! Then were talking!

Matt Kalil OT U.S.C- Our Oline looked wretched, and even though we got some nice young players there in Petrus and Brewer, we still could go get a OT early on to really try and solidify the positon and depth...

Jonathan Martin OT Stanford- See Kalil....
[/quote]would love any of those guys especially the first 2. burfict ..man idk dudes just nasty and something our LBr corp has missed for a loong time and dre is perfect for the giants and like you said him,prince,tt,and webby..do it! lol
[/quote]

I know Ive worried about Burflict's character, expecially here in New York where those types of flaws are amplified. But, geeze that kid bring a load with him every tackle he makes is vicious. I cant help but think his play may outweigh the negatives.
[/quote]yeah his character is the only that worries me. be nice to get him and bring in armstead to mentor him or hell see if AP is interested in coaching.

Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

[quote user="nycsportzfan"] Ya, i'm thinking based off only the one week we've seen so far, which isn't a whole lot to go with, that the GIANTS could(hopefully not), be a 10th-12th picking team in this yrs draft... If that were true(hopefully not), then the handful of guys this very early on i'd be thinking alot about(of course could change through season) are

Vontaze Burfict LB Arz St- As much as i love goff, this guy is just a animal!

Alshon Jeffery wr s.carolina- If he were to make it to us, it'd be very hard to not pair him with Hakeem, plus Hakeem seems brittle, and Mario is a FA soon(right?), and we don't have much after that, unless barden comes back soon and shows us what hes made of..

Dre Kirkpatrick CB Bama- Teaming Kirkpatrick with Prince, would be something, and possibly re-sign TT for cheap because of his injury... WOW! Then were talking!

Matt Kalil OT U.S.C- Our Oline looked wretched, and even though we got some nice young players there in Petrus and Brewer, we still could go get a OT early on to really try and solidify the positon and depth...

Jonathan Martin OT Stanford- See Kalil....
[/quote]

First, I don't want to make any pronouncements about the O-line based on one game. They've got the best O-line coach in the business, and I really do think they'll gel into a force to be reckoned with by week 3. Familiarity and trust is the only thing lacking at the moment, and that ain't going to be solved in the draft.

That being said, I do believe JR will take an OL somewhere in the mid rounds (3-5). Some 1st or 2nd round guy guy who fell after the big-name linemen were snapped up early, and then teams moved on to flashier positions like WR or RB.

I'd LOVE to get Jeffery. He and Nicks would be an absolute FORCE together. Could anyone imagine a 3-wide set with some combination of Nicks, Jeffery, Thomas, and Barden? That's also a lot of physicality for the running game as well.

Burfict would bring a mentality to the Giants D that they haven't had since the 80's. However, he's a BIG risk in NYC, and also as cautious as the refs are about hits, a vicious 10yrd sack won't do a damn bit of good if they hand out a 15yrd penalty and 1st down. It wouldn't surprise me if Burfict drops because of his "character" concerns... just look at Prince, and the only knock on him was a "quirky" sense of humor.

If the Giants pick somewhere in the 20's (either through trading down, or pulling it together and making a run), they may very well STILL have a shot at Burfict, and the choice may be between him and Jeff Fuller (who I'm quite high on at the moment... I see a lot of Nicks in him, except he's even bigger).

In fact, since there are some good, maybe even great QB's coming out this year, we could see a situation like this past draft where some great talent gets pushed down in favor of maybe reaching for a QB.

How tough would the choice be between Burfict, Fuller, Mike Martin, and Donta Paige-Moss?