My dear Sir Sweet Spot...(if that is indeed your real name)...I understand that this INSANE thread is now 15 pages long, but you really should check out a few of the replies before posting your own. Chubby though one of them may be, they have established NTRP ratings of 5.0. On tennislink. Using the USTA's rating system (not that of LeeD, mtommer, or any other poster). Done and...done.