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Re: A Trade on Draft Day Possible?

I look for Ozzie to trade down for even more bodies - up to 14 picks. Draft is deep enough to get what he needs with the extra #2s ala Dickson and PItta who just won the SB for him.

I don't think this means the Ravens are going to trade down. It may mean that they are not going to take an ILB with heir first two picks though. I think Ozzie goes for a WR or OT with that first pick. It is pointless to draft 14 players, since a good number of them would not make the team.

Re: A Trade on Draft Day Possible?

Originally Posted by GOTA

I heard Scott Pioli about a month ago talk about his time with the Patriots. One of their goals every year was to trade a lower round pick for a higher one the following year. He was very proud of the fact that the Pats turned a 6th round pick into a 3rd in 3 years. With this many picks I look for Ozzie to do the same thing.

I saw that piece as well. One interesting thing I learned watching that is that Pioli was in Cleveland with Bellechick when Ozzie was a GM in training. So I can see some of Pioli in Ozzie, the way he goes about planning for draft day.

With 12 picks the options are almost unlimited. I do think his first priority will be to fill the LT, and ILB positions. I could see him packaging some picks to move up first, then maybe trading a pick or two for a higher spot next year.

Re: A Trade on Draft Day Possible?

Originally Posted by mickeyotc

As I recall, it was a trade with Atlanta the previous year. Then Atlanta had a horrendous season and we ended up with the 5th overall pick! Sweet deal, except for the unfortunate draft of Taylor at number 10. But Jamaal was a winner anyway.

Yes, and I believe (coming from my feeble brain now) that we traded our 2nd round pick to the Falcons. They picked (again I'm going from memory) a TE named Bishop (?) please correct me if I'm wrong... Bc

Re: A Trade on Draft Day Possible?

Originally Posted by Dirt1

I don't think this means the Ravens are going to trade down...

You may be right, but I've got a feeling Ozzie does trade down into the 2nd round, then uses his later round choices to trade up when necessary (like he did last year to get Pierce for instance). The Ravens could possibly end up with two 2nds and two 3rds... Bc

Re: A Trade on Draft Day Possible?

I'm almost certain we do multiple trade ups - no way 12 rookies make the roster so it would just be a waste.

I can, however, see ozzie trading back out of the first, and using the acquired picks to trade up, like many have said. Ozzie having ammo to trade up in the mid rounds to nab those 'value' guys he's so well known for finding. Ozzie has the means to nail this draft, and if he does that'll be 2 VERY good drafts in a row, and will set us up as favourites for years to come.

Re: A Trade on Draft Day Possible?

There will def be trades and more than 3 most likely as the other poster said 12 rookies plus UDFAs wont all make the roster or PS for that matter and we usually like to keep a UDFA or 2 on the 53 man roster and then 1 on the PS then stash some on IR add 12 draft picks to the mix, it would be a waste as we would be cutting half of the players we get either by drafting them or signing them as a UDFA.

My guess is he sits back at 32 and if there are multiple players there who he has first rd grades on he moves back into the 2nd round then moves up with #62 or if there is a player falling who is a top 15 tallent I see a trade up but no higher than the low 20s as he wont want to give up a 2nd or 3rd. I can see us playing around with our 4-7s and moving out of the 1st which would give us multiple picks in rounds 2-4 esp if we play around our low round picks and package them that would give us more another 4th and possibly another 3rd and we always have the comp picks.

I can see us trading a 5th and 2 6ths for a mid 4th.

There is no way we keep all 12 picks. Oz loves picks but sometimes you have too much and not enough room on the roster and next year will be the same with the amount of comp picks we are likely to get so it does not make sense to trade for picks next year unless we can get a #1 or #2

Re: A Trade on Draft Day Possible?

Originally Posted by GOTA

I heard Scott Pioli about a month ago talk about his time with the Patriots. One of their goals every year was to trade a lower round pick for a higher one the following year. He was very proud of the fact that the Pats turned a 6th round pick into a 3rd in 3 years. With this many picks I look for Ozzie to do the same thing.

But Ozzie has been trading down in recent years ala Pitta and Dickson who just won the SB for him. Oz has just 1 less ring than Pioli and he had Brady all those years. Oz trades down largely because he drafts at the bottom and doesn't have enough ammo to trade up. He's said that himself many times. Things could be different this year since he has the ammo but I wouldn't bet on it. HOw many #1s, #2s or #3s does he have to trade up for Austin or someone higher? NE always had that kind of ammo to move up. Oz now has a ton of lower and comp picks from losing so many FAs. It will take losing Pitta if you want another #2 and that would be for next year's draft.

He stayed pat the last time he won the SB and came away with Heap, Hartwell, Rabach and Baxter. They kept Ravens winning for years.

Re: A Trade on Draft Day Possible?

With the amount of holes they've plugged with free agent signings, my gut feeling is that Ozzie's preferred plan right now is to package some of those picks to move up a bit to get HIS guy in the first round, whomever that may be. Of course, it's hard to move up too far from the 32nd pick without giving away a lot of future picks, so if none of those guys fall to ~25th, I'd expect a fairly typical Ozzie draft like we saw last year and in 2010.

Re: A Trade on Draft Day Possible?

LT is an obvious need but the type of picks we have are not the kind that will get you far enough up in the first to get one of the big 3 (Joekel, Fisher, Johnson). Combine that with the fact there are a number of teams picking 1-20 who would love one of those 3 and its seems unlikely that moving up to get one could happen.

Of the guys who would be feasible to get I really do like Melenik Watson. Getting him would likely require moving up IMO. Not so sure Ozzie is going to be that in love with the guy that he would move up to get him.

Personally I would love to see Ozzie slide back a few spots into the 2nd and pick up a pick. Then draft either Long or Armistead. Use the extra pick to move back up in the 2nd or 3rd as other have suggest to get guys who slide they value. If the Ravens went this route I would love to see them double dip at LT and use a pick to also grab Chris Faulk from LSU who I think is a guy who would have been at worst an early 2nd rounder had he not been hurt. Faulk could be potentially had in the late 3rd or 4th round. Good value if you ask me.

“A linebacker's job is to knock out running backs, to knock out receivers, to chase the football,”
-Ray Lewis

So many stud combos in the 2nd round that we can get with a trade "down and back up" move. Could also trade back twice and get Armstead (OT) and Schwenke (C/G) or Jones (All). Starter competition and depth.

"On their way to the podium, the Ravens FO is going to collectively step over my dead body and select...Breshad Perriman." -- Me, the day before the Draft

Re: A Trade on Draft Day Possible?

Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver

So many stud combos in the 2nd round that we can get with a trade "down and back up" move. Could also trade back twice and get Armstead (OT) and Schwenke (C/G) or Jones (All). Starter competition and depth.

I would do cartwheels if they took Jones at some point.

The guy is a really good talent and versatile in the way that Marshall Yanda has been for us. A very valuable guy to have on your Oline IMO. Picking him would make me very happy.

“A linebacker's job is to knock out running backs, to knock out receivers, to chase the football,”
-Ray Lewis