I feel bad that his trust was broken by that group of people at flipthebird to integrity.Anyways it hurts all of us when trust is broken by insiders that attempt to confide for purpose of investigation.

John gets zero respect from me no matter what ..He was and is only after money. He was paid a ransom to do the search in the first place.

Edward - I'm really surprised at your rudeness. I have the utmost respect for members of Freebirds.

I do too, and I'm shocked and appalled that such a remark would ever be made about Natalee's Freebirds.

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Freebirds is not law enforcment nor are they a group of licensed investigators. They made huge mistakes.They should have communicated ONLY to Dave and Beth and let the Holloways do the walking and the talking.jmho

I do not know any of them personally. I do not see where they did anything of value beyond anyone else. Just more confusion.Maybe it would have been best to stay silent.

It was not Costa Rica it was Nicaragua.It was not a cruel hoax.. It Was By Design.

By the way.. Anything I say is just my humble opinion and I can be wrong on any point and I reserve the right to be ignorant.

Dave is a wonderful man and he has a heart of gold.. Beth has her attributes too.I love them both.

I love Beth More... She is a babe. One of the smartest women I have ever seen.

Edward, I don't think you are malevolent -- just a little misguided of what you have been told @ BFN. There was a LOT of digging at SM -- I don't think you would have the opinion you do if you careully studied what was revealed here. -JMO

Freebirds is not law enforcment nor are they a group of licensed investigators. They made huge mistakes.They should have communicated ONLY to Dave and Beth and let the Holloways do the walking and the talking.jmho

What mistakes? ........ and are you SURE they had no ties to Law Enforcement??

Freebirds is not law enforcment nor are they a group of licensed investigators. They made huge mistakes.They should have communicated ONLY to Dave and Beth and let the Holloways do the walking and the talking.jmho

The huge mistake is that all research by all of us should go to family only.

The enemy is close and always has been.. They want to keep the game close.

Beth has never been here openly. Dave tried to come into the forums and chat but in the end it was a disaster.Robin ran off with Reality .. GeeWiz.. and I even talked with her about it..I never did figure that one out.. They do not come around anymore, at least not in the open.

FeeBirds had an opportunity to be the secret weapon for Dave and Beth and although I was not part of that research team I have always said we needed a higher level to keep the average people out of proper research and to keep redundancy to a minimum.

Edward - it's my understanding that Freebirds shared their work first with Beth and Dave before posting anything openly.

Freebirds is not the enemy but there are or were many at BFN that Debbie and Robin befriended that are. That would include Jan Brennan who is still a member of BFN, Reality, GAGirl/Gal or whichever one it was, and too many others to mention.

The huge mistake is that all research by all of us should go to family only.

The enemy is close and always has been.. They want to keep the game close.

Beth has never been here openly. Dave tried to come into the forums and chat but in the end it was a disaster.Robin ran off with Reality .. GeeWiz.. and I even talked with her about it..I never did figure that one out.. They do not come around anymore, at least not in the open.

FeeBirds had an opportunity to be the secret weapon for Dave and Beth and although I was not part of that research team I have always said we needed a higher level to keep the average people out of proper research and to keep redundancy to a minimum.

About the bolded part above ... did that happen? Am I reading this correctly?

The huge mistake is that all research by all of us should go to family only.

The enemy is close and always has been.. They want to keep the game close.

Beth has never been here openly. Dave tried to come into the forums and chat but in the end it was a disaster.Robin ran off with Reality .. GeeWiz.. and I even talked with her about it..I never did figure that one out.. They do not come around anymore, at least not in the open.

FeeBirds had an opportunity to be the secret weapon for Dave and Beth and although I was not part of that research team I have always said we needed a higher level to keep the average people out of proper research and to keep redundancy to a minimum.

Edward

Are you not enraged that John Silvetti afforded the Aruban enemy ... who has prevented justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway ... unchallenged possession of what may have been her remains? What would be your reaction if Natalee were your daughter?

I hope that the Persistence has not done all of this work and gone to all of this expense only to have gotten itself into an arrangement whereby Aruban divers are the ones who actually verify the targets and are the first ones to physically retrieve evidence, with no American divers physically with them. If so, all I can say is I just can't believe this has happened. But surely I am wrong.

If I understood Kyle correctly, and that would be that the Arubans retrieved and possessed all finds, not sharing anything with the crew, then that effort was a waste of time and effort. The only thing it could have accomplished was to locate additional evidence for the Arubans to destroy. I am not sure if that was the protocol out of Aruba's waters though. The effort was superb, but the game was fixed.

Loving Natalee - Beth HollowayPage 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me._____

“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown

This case is so much different.. It is not limited to the United Stetes and not to one state like most cases...

BFN is infiltrated... Debbie is a conservative.. Or they just have different opinion. Very limited.

It is hard to do research beyond the excepted opinion, but a few members are wonderful and stay out of the turmoil.

I have been attacked a few times now by ex monkey members at BFN.

We say prayer for some people and then I am told not to talk about religion.. lolIt is tough.

People never quite understand this one thing about this case ... We are dealing with a very dangerous and well Organized enemy that works on a world wide basis.. They have infiltrated us Early !! Very early. That is what brought me here.. I could see them doing this.

ALL On-line gambling Begins in the Carribean and Aruba ..They have a huge knowledge of internet security and are quite well versed in computer technology. In all actual we are way behind them in these areas.

Gambling drugs prostitution is directly connected to the richest people in our world and most important the underworld.

They are specialist in disinformation .. They attack by design and have done this to us since the first day.

Look at Peru ... Joran is close to walking out !! with legal representation he should not own.Our legal system is lining up in hopes they can snag him on release.News media is lining up for the next Joran interview.

This is a sick game and the enemy infiltrated us very early.

You all see me get my hands dirty and my feet wet in other cases and you know I am real and that my only agenda is to bring Natalee home to Alabama.It is the same agenda I have for any other lost person. I go oit of my way to support the family and find there lost person.