First round could have been 10-7 tanner easy he got the take down 4 sec in and dominated round 2 much the same witm dome offense from william to go 10 -8 then round 3 was close 10-9 either wsy depends how you judge a fight but I gave
It to william 10 -9

10-8 the first 2 rounds to Tanner because how long he dominated with back control and threatened to finish the fight with RNC attempts and punches. 3rd round takedown by Boser, but then Berserker was able to reverse the position and chipped away from guard for a good portion of the round. Tannner eventually reversed and got a takedown again against the fence and moved into mount to finish the round. I scored it 10-9 Boser but I had some people give it 10-9 William.

William Carriere Also showed a ton of heart trying to go for the knockout when he had a chance on the feet. And he fought through being in a terrible position for so long without quitting. That’s the mark of a true fighter.

Great job milko on the win! But I’m still not clear how a guy with full back control hammering down on punches and looking for a choke can be stood up! Especially in a title fight! Pretty shady ref if you ask me! If a guy has a dominate position and has a chance to finish the fight you don’t stand the fight up boring or not! That’s my opinion! Great fight none the less! Both warriors !!!

Tanner’s first round could have been a 10-7 very dominate, but man William is tough as they come. Spencer Jebb is a beast! big win for him hammer fist KO of the night. Conrad and Conner’s fight was fight of the night in my opinion very close and both fighters were swinging!!! Some beautiful kicks thrown by Conrad and Conner showed nice hands. Call me biased but I would have voted Rick’s guillotine Submission of the night after escaping a close submission himself. This was a very entertaining fight card. Great main event as well !

10-7 round???
Please explain what is involved in a 10-7 round.
Even back to back 10-8 rounds is kind of crazy.
You can’t give out 8’s and 7’s likes it’s candy.
I wasn’t there, William must of took a crazy beating in round one for Tyler to say it could of been 10-7.

I went to Big John’s COMMAND judging course. He says there are very few 10-7 rounds. They are generally rounds where the referee should have stopped the fight. The example he showed was the Cristiane Cyborg vs Jan Finney that was reffed by Kim Winslow. Cyborg just beat Finney up so bad in the first round that the fighter has pretty much given up and it should have been stopped by Winslow.

10-9 is the default and indicates one fighter did more than the other.

10-8 is a complete and total domination.

10-7 is a failure of the ref to act.

I don’t personally like the 10-Point Must System but it is the one we have and sadly commissions around the world (outside of Japan) seem to bend to the will of the ABC on this issue. For all the good the ABC does (data base of suspended fighters first and foremost) this is one thing that needs to be changed.

Great fight with Milko and Beecroft but my only question is what the heck was Cardinal thinking standing them up with 30 seconds left when a guy has the others back with body lock on and going back and forth from punches to rear naked choke continuously and there was no time either guy were just holding on and not trying to finish the fight. That was the deciding factor in how that fight ended not saying that Milko could not have won or finished him in 3rd but only reason that fight ended in the second is due to that stand up by Cardinal

I fully agree with bjj fan and john h. That fight should have never been stood up. One of the worst calls iv seen in mma history!!!! Great job by both fighters …very good fight but feel as tho the fighters and fans were robbed of the rest of that fight. Let’s let the fighters decide the outcome not the fuckin refs!!!

The half-point system has the same flaws as the 10-Point Must System with the added confusion of a ½ point with which to struggle with. Unfortunately the system is still based on the boxing fallacy that there can be a clean cut winner of a round which I would argue does not apply to MMA (note: I am aware that boxing can be scored a 10-10 however below you will see I don’t think this happens very often in MMA). To me I’d like to see a system that captures what MMA is and not try and score it like another sport that somehow has shared characteristics. This would be like using baseball scoring to score a cricket match simply because of the shared ‘bat’ and ‘ball’ aspect.

I think you could preserve the essence of the current rules however add in the flexibility and stress the importance of a 10-10 round (or as I’ve heard others argue a 9-9 round). Thusly:

Round One very close score = 10-10

Round Two Fighter A outscored Fighter B = 10-9

Round Three Fighter B had very strong round = 8-10

Total Score = 28- 29 for Fighter B

Under the current system the fight would be judged against who was deemed to be the arbitrary winner of the first round. Score it for Fighter A and you have a draw which negates the last round. For me MMA is a fight at the core (essentially the purest test of Self Defense). Allowing for a draw in the first round better represents this than picking an arbitrary winner based on the structure of the rules.

To continue this let’s suppose that the above 9-9, 10-9 and 8-10 represent the actual score. We then have a confounding variable (designed to ensure fairness) of the scoring with three independent judges. With the current system the score could look like:

Judge One 10-9, 10-9 and 8-10

Judge Two 9-10, 10-9 and 9-10

Judge Three 10-9, 10-9 and 9-10

Round One is now scored for Fighter A

Round Two is now scored for Fighter A

Round Three is scored for Fighter B

This gives the fight Two Rounds to One to Fighter A which is not supported by the actual fight however it is justified by the rules and the trend of judges not to score draws. I’ve been involved in many years of this and can probably count on one hand the number of rounds scored as a draw that I’ve seen in MMA.

So I guess in summary, the scoring criteria as we have could work if we stressed the need for rounds to be scored as draws when they are very close rounds (Hendrix vs GSP for example would have had at least one round scored a draw). Secondly we need to look at the judges we have working in MMA, to be honest a number of the judges I have met are Boxing judges first and foremost who do MMA on the side. Sort of like, my proctologist who is also an Ear, Nose and Throat specialist….. hopefully he washes his hands between appointments.

@Donnie, for sure! Draw rounds are under used in mma… worst thing I think about it is when it happens outside ufc. I’ve been at several fights where round 1 nothing really happens, fighter A takes round 2 fighter B takes 3, both guys on the brink of UFC, one guy is gifted round 1 moves up to the big show other guy gets the L, set back another year.

I’ve seen the guys getting the L even quitting the business all together, whereas a draw, as it should be scored keeps both guys at the top of the list for the big show

Keith – I’m far from the expert that BJM is but I did argue that with him when I saw him a few years ago. I found it very frustrating that they don’t think a draw exists.

Graham – I can’t remember the specific fight but it was two guys with traditional Muay Thai roots and they treated the first round as a traditional round and then the fire works happened in rounds 2 and 3. The fact that one person was ‘force scored’ as winning round 1 made for a result that didn’t match the action.

I’ve completed the COMMAND Judging Course and I’d have to say while it was stressed a 10-10 round could be avoided if the current 4 areas of judging criteria are used effectively. Though my opinion is there is nothing wrong with scoring a 10-10 round if you can intelligently explain why you did. Furthermore, the 10-9 system could work if they (ABC) changed the criteria so that damage was the number one criteria!