I will preface this by saying I do not CARE 'what' is being bellowed out of the aircraft above me, nor do I care to get involved in the usual
tit-for-tat semantics of what it may or may not be.

The purpose of this thread is simple and to the point:

Are these 'trails', whatever they may or may not be, INCREASING in frequency above your location in recent times?

I can tell you, that without the shadow of a doubt, they have increased EXPONENTIALLY above me in the past year or so, and have been nearly non-stop,
day and night in recent times. I can rarely see clear sky above me anymore.

I watch as they criss cross, and some times loop back around and head back toward the location they came from, spraying these 'trails', which seem
to get carried by the wind, and spread out over ENORMOUS distances, till literally the entire blue sky has become a whitish, greyish hue, with a few
metallic-looking rainbows here and there high up.

A year ago, these operations and trails were viewable, but NOTHING to the extent they are in recent times in my area.

So, I would like my fellow ATSers to chime in here and see if anyone else has noticed the same pattern as myself...

As the years go by, more planes are produced, the population increases, and thus more planes are flying in the air. So, the short answer to your
question is "yes".

And please stop saying "spraying". Contrails are not "sprayed". Contrails are water moisture from jet engines. Just like when you drive your car
around in the winter time and you can see your or other peoples' exhaust as you're driving down the street. That is water moisture coming out of
your car's exhaust just as it does from a jet engine:

If you could drive your car at the altitudes that planes fly at, you would also create contrails across the entire sky because your exhaust wouldn't
evaporate at altitude like it does at ground level.

There is no question whatsoever that the white trails that follow aircraft at high altitudes have and continue to increase in frequency around my
place. I heard about the "chemtrail" conspiracy a few years ago and really paid it no attention. However, last year there was definitely an increase
in the frequency that I saw them and now I see dozens every single day! So many that it boggles the mind to believe that so many planes could actually
be spraying. And for those who care I'm ONLY referring to those trails that stretch from horizon to horizon not anything shorter than that. The
logistics and required secrecy seem almost impossible feats.

Yes indeed they have steadily increased over the last few years. Infact the only times I have seen blue skies here is when the volcanoe errupted in
Iceland and then the snow brought Britain to a standstill.
Peace

Here in the sleepy little town of Las Vegas (yes, folks, there IS another Las Vegas other than the overgrown and gaudy one in Nevada) we don't usually
get a lot of chemtrails, but over the past 6 months the spraying has increased in both frequency and intensity. We are not exactly near any metro
areas being 55 miles NE of Santa Fe but the southern part of the sky (Santa Fe and Albuquerque) is almosst solidly covered every day and night.

As for those who still don't understand the difference between contrails and chemtrails all you have to do is look up. On most any day you can see
short-lived. normal contrails in the same part of the sky as the persistant, billowing chemtrails. How anyone could not distinguish between the two
is almost unbelievable. Frankly, in my opinion, anyone who still claims that these are just normal contrails is either a liar or an
imbicile.

Originally posted by Tholidor
On most any day you can see short-lived. normal contrails in the same part of the sky as the persistant, billowing chemtrails.

If you're going to call persistent contrails "chemtrails", then you have to call persistent clouds "chemtrails" as well:

Clouds and contrails are made up of exactly the same thing: frozen water vapor. The altitude that a plane flies at, along with the weather
conditions at that altitude, will dictate whether contrails (or clouds) will persist or evaporate.

Originally posted by Tholidor
Frankly, in my opinion, anyone who still claims that these are just normal contrails is either a liar or an imbicile.

I'll not stoop to the level of calling others names for not agreeing. So, I'll just say that intelligence, logic, education, and science always win
in the end no matter what you want to believe.

I'm on the fence about the whole chemtrail thing. It seems like it would be way too difficult to pull something off of that magnitude. I'm about 35% /
65% on the topic, the 35% being belief they exist.

I've been asking this question for way too long without any answer from anybody.

If they weren't spraying something then why don't we see the trail consistently? I often times see the plane with a huge gap between it and the trail.
Why did the trail stop? The engines obviously aren't turned off... and the trail never catches up.

And then there are also photos such as this:

The official explanation for that image is monitoring the faultline. But a good conspiracy theorist says theres always a cover-story.

These trails have indeed been increasing in my area dramatically. Spraying or increased travel? That is the question...

Um... No, most people know that normal contrails streak out a ways then dissipate. These criss-cross trails go on and on, a few hours later they're
wider and puffier, by the end of the day the whole sky is overcast a brownish-haze. I have never seen this before until just a few years ago. I live
in Rural Northern Calif. and have all my life - I KNOW what the normal jet contrails look like (They're up there, I can see those, too) and the
obvious difference in the others. Soil and water samples were taken in the county just north of mine - all registered 1000's of times normal levels
of barium and aluminum oxides. Other areas tested show the same thing.

I encourage you to read this report at the link below - it's thoroughly and objectively laid out and was researched and prepared by the prestigious
Belfort Group (a research company) in Belgium. Then come back to this thread and tell us contrails are poppycock.

Originally posted by _BoneZ_
As the years go by, more planes are produced, the population increases, and thus more planes are flying in the air. So, the short answer to your
question is "yes".

And please stop saying "spraying". Contrails are not "sprayed". Contrails are water moisture from jet engines. Just like when you drive your car
around in the winter time and you can see your or other peoples' exhaust as you're driving down the street. That is water moisture coming out of
your car's exhaust just as it does from a jet engine:

If you could drive your car at the altitudes that planes fly at, you would also create contrails across the entire sky because your exhaust wouldn't
evaporate at altitude like it does at ground level.

The population increase ??????
Your kidding right ???
WHere I live we have teeny weenie airport, cant take barely a 737, and the CHEMTRAILS have increased, we dont have any increase of planes, no one
comes here, so why the increase in CHEMTRAILS ??

Originally posted by Tholidor
Here in the sleepy little town of Las Vegas (yes, folks, there IS another Las Vegas other than the overgrown and gaudy one in Nevada) we don't
usually get a lot of chemtrails, but over the past 6 months the spraying has increased in both frequency and intensity. We are not exactly near any
metro areas being 55 miles NE of Santa Fe but the southern part of the sky (Santa Fe and Albuquerque) is almosst solidly covered every day and
night.

As for those who still don't understand the difference between contrails and chemtrails all you have to do is look up. On most any day you can see
short-lived. normal contrails in the same part of the sky as the persistant, billowing chemtrails. How anyone could not distinguish between the two
is almost unbelievable. Frankly, in my opinion, anyone who still claims that these are just normal contrails is either a liar or an
imbicile.

edit on 19-1-2011 by Tholidor because: (no reason given)

(anyone who still claims that these are just normal contrails is either a liar or an imbecile.)
You tell em !!! my thoughts exactly...next they will be telling us that the sky aint blue !!!! lol lol lol

At work today in Texas I was talking to my boss. Her office walls are basically huge windows, 3rd floor...a view of the skies.
As I talked to her the trails in the sky caught my eye...so many! Yes, I have noticed more.

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