I'm not a developer. I'm not a kickstarter or a venture capitalist. But...I'm seeing some pieces fall in place for a useful application of all this spiffy stuff: Yosemite telephony that ties to iOS8, and a home automation initiative makes me think about one of the issues I've had since ditching the landline. I leave my iPhone about anywhere in the house. I'm pretty good about putting it on a charger, but the issue is that I one of those people that occasionally "never picks up." That is not always a bad thing, but in the good old days of the landline, the ringer was heard through the whole house.

I'll get to the point: I see the usefulness of a home wide Mac based comm system. Think Jarvis for Tony Stark. It seems like some simple audio units in the home via "hey Siri" might be kinda useful. And kinda cool.

@tallest skil
"Remember iOS 7 only gave panorama shots to the newest iPhones."

thats funny, my 4S takes panoramas just fine, and it wasn't new when they introduced panoramas. Heading for 3 years old now and still working just fine. I love it and love the size.
I would really be slow to have to go to anything bigger than the 5, screen wise, but the battery on them is so bad. No-one i know has good better life.

i really have to start investigating this on herself's phone, turn off features one by one and see whats draining it or is it a particular app. I know leaving Skype or camera open in the background on my 4S drains the battery.

Looking at things like phone calls and SMS with a unit that's in another room and not active leads me to believe that they are using features of BT4 which is not available on the iPhone 4 so dropping support for that is pretty much a requirement.

I have an iPhone 4 but lucky for me I'm getting a new phone this year anyway.

Thanks to Apple who still willing to support over 3 generations old iphone, ipads, Macs, etc. AND big NO thanks to Google android and those selling android phones which hardly supports last year's models. I am waiting for my LG Optimus e970 for kitkat update. Samsung dropped galaxy s3 from kitkat update and the list go on and on and on. I am sorry, it is big list to list here but you know what I am saying if you are android smartphone user.

Android is horrible, anyone reading this site is already aware of it being horrible. Any developer who hates Oracle/Java also hates Android. Android is just a gum-and-bailing-wire platform that only holds together as long as the hardware manufacturer cares, and Samsung pretty much follows the Car manufacturer's business model, release a new device every year, immediately stop selling the previous model with a fire sale (even if the new model just gets a new coat of paint) and then make it very expensive to maintain.

Apple/iOS/OSX feels solid, with a few exceptions their software works on all previous models. The only time we actually see support dropped is when the performance window has moved too far away (like the PPC support in MAC, and pre-A4 support in iPhone) They could technically keep producing software for these platforms, but so few people are still using them. The worst feature-creep obsolescence was with OSX 10.7, the reason being that there was little reason to make this obsolescence. By forcing 64-bit boot, and 2GB of ram requirements, it made a lot of older devices obsolete before it was necessary. Still it's likely that Apple was/is planning on making 32-bin binaries obsolete. So if Swift only compiles to 64-bit binaries for OSX targets, you'll likely see this start happening.

As it is, developers aren't producing 64-bit binaries of their software on any platform except FreeBSD/Linux where the 32-bit support libraries aren't installed by default. If Apple removed their 32bit support, it would break quite a bit of software predating 10.7, and a lot of current software that won't do 64-bit without a gun to their head (like Google Chrome.)

That's because panoramas came in with the iPhone 4s. It hasn't been since the iPhone 5

my point was that ios7 didn't give panoramics to new phones. iOS 6 brought panoramics, think i am correct there, you could enable it on ios5 via jailbreak, i know, and iPhone 4S shipped with iOS 5 originally.

In case anyone was wondering, I was able to upgrade from 10.7.5 to 10.10 (DP) without any issues at all. I had a test Mac that only had 10.7.5 installed so I ran the upgrade and it worked fine. I can test from 10.6.8 if anyone is interested?

You went from 10.7.5 to 10.1? Surely that's a downgrade to Puma?

Ha ha!

"If the young are not initiated into the village, they will burn it down just to feel its warmth."- African proverb

A5 is a giant product for Apple... iPhone 4s, iPad 2, iPad mini, iPod Touch... All have been in production and some are STILL in production right now. I think we will probably see iOS 9 for A5.... Or iOS 9 will go A7/64-bits and up... Leaving 50+ million devices at A5 and A6 levels. That's a big group of users to drop without so e kind of alternate means... Kind of like how iOS 6 devices do much better at selecting Apps that are compatible from the Apps a Store when they used to just leave you hanging.

I've noticed the odd game recently that semi-support the iPad 2—they say you can play them but may have issues. That leads me to think that Apple may break away with iOS 9.

"If the young are not initiated into the village, they will burn it down just to feel its warmth."- African proverb

Im running the Yosemite Beta on my late 2010 Macbook Air, i don't use it as much as my retina MBP (which i will update with the proper Yosemite release).
So far I've noticed some performance issues, id say its just due to the OS being in beta, 10.9 ran really well on here, I think beta 2 will help heaps, I don't think its a hardware issue, so far, i like what i see, Im running iOS8 on my iPad 3, all in all, the look & feel of both iOS & OS X are making me feel happy, so with the better performance, ill have no issue updating all my macs when its released.