Westvleteren 12 > Rochefort 10 > St. Bernardus Abt 12. And that is no slight on the St. Bernardus 12. Obviously getting your hands on the Westy 12 is no easy task but if you can it is a must try if you like quads.

Where are you finding St. Bernardus for that price? I got a case for $118 and considered it great value. Rochefort 10 if I can recall you can get in some places for $5.99. Wetvleteren 12 is only sold at the brewery in Belgium so you'd probably have to pay close to $30 per beer if you can even find it anywhere. They sold it commercially in the US for the first and only time in December and 6 packs were going for $85. They were then being resold for ~$350 on ebay.

I'd tray the Brooklyn Local 2 last of all the above. Its not as much up your alley as some of the others. I don't like the XV too much, but I put it on there because it actually trends more towards the abbey quad flavors than the spiciness that I associate with BSDAs, so you'd probably like that one. Unibroue knows whats up. They have the Grand Reserve 17 (I think that's what it is) also, but I haven't had that yet. Don't like a lot of the Gouden Carolus stuff, but the Easter is yummy.

IamtheWaris wrote:Where are you finding St. Bernardus for that price? I got a case for $118 and considered it great value. Rochefort 10 if I can recall you can get in some places for $5.99. Wetvleteren 12 is only sold at the brewery in Belgium so you'd probably have to pay close to $30 per beer if you can even find it anywhere. They sold it commercially in the US for the first and only time in December and 6 packs were going for $85. They were then being resold for ~$350 on ebay.

Ho1kB had a few Westy 12s about a year ago. I think they were $35. They were gone before I could get there.

it's this place is in philly you can get different sized kegs from. they have sixtels of abt 12 available - which easily contains 2 cases worth. with sixtels, you basically always save money per ounce.

So the Ommegang Brewery was great. It was mostly your standard brewery tour, but the guide was quite knowledgeable and was fun to talk to. I came away quite impressed with the beer tasting (six of their beers, starting with the witte and ending with Three Philosophers).

They also just opened up a Belgian cafe there that is out of this world. Had a croque madame and frites, and the rest of the menu was just as awesome. Certainly worth making a trip up there, especially with the baseball HOF and the Catskills/Adirondacks also in the vicinity.

shafnutz05 wrote:So the Ommegang Brewery was great. It was mostly your standard brewery tour, but the guide was quite knowledgeable and was fun to talk to. I came away quite impressed with the beer tasting (six of their beers, starting with the witte and ending with Three Philosophers).

They also just opened up a Belgian cafe there that is out of this world. Had a croque madame and frites, and the rest of the menu was just as awesome. Certainly worth making a trip up there, especially with the baseball HOF and the Catskills/Adirondacks also in the vicinity.

To get good full and drunk, how much money are you going to end up spending per person?

TBH, the beer prices in the cafe weren't bad at all. And most of Ommegang's offerings are fairly strong (especially the abbey ale and quad) so it doesn't take much. The prices are very reasonable for that quality of food and drink.

Only problem is, make sure you have a DD. Not exactly easy to walk to it from Cooperstown.

shafnutz05 wrote:TBH, the beer prices in the cafe weren't bad at all. And most of Ommegang's offerings are fairly strong (especially the abbey ale and quad) so it doesn't take much. The prices are very reasonable for that quality of food and drink.

Only problem is, make sure you have a DD. Not exactly easy to walk to it from Cooperstown.

IamtheWaris wrote:Where are you finding St. Bernardus for that price? I got a case for $118 and considered it great value. Rochefort 10 if I can recall you can get in some places for $5.99. Wetvleteren 12 is only sold at the brewery in Belgium so you'd probably have to pay close to $30 per beer if you can even find it anywhere. They sold it commercially in the US for the first and only time in December and 6 packs were going for $85. They were then being resold for ~$350 on ebay.

Ho1kB had a few Westy 12s about a year ago. I think they were $35. They were gone before I could get there.

I got 2 of them when I was in Brussels I want to say for 12 Euros apiece. I also grabbed a 6 pack when they were on sale in December. What is Ho1kB?

it's this place is in philly you can get different sized kegs from. they have sixtels of abt 12 available - which easily contains 2 cases worth. with sixtels, you basically always save money per ounce.

I have been to the Total Wine in Claymont. They have pretty good prices there.

A sixtel is going to give you around 55 12 ounce beers. I know this because I was crunching the numbers while standing in line for Pliny the Younger this weekend trying to figure out if I was going to get some.

it's this place is in philly you can get different sized kegs from. they have sixtels of abt 12 available - which easily contains 2 cases worth. with sixtels, you basically always save money per ounce.

I have been to the Total Wine in Claymont. They have pretty good prices there.

A sixtel is going to give you around 55 12 ounce beers. I know this because I was crunching the numbers while standing in line for Pliny the Younger this weekend trying to figure out if I was going to get some.

a friend of mine gets high-end craft beer all the time for his kegerator. the price per ounce has always been crazy cheap. i assume the abt 12 is no different.