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History of OLB speed in Pittsburgh.

I wish I had Chadmans posting skills for this. But I will keep it short and sweet. If Jones falls he very well could be the pick. But I think the Steelers could surprise this year. I was concerned about Jone's speed. So I took a look at some of the OLB's for the steelers.

So maybe Chadman can add his steelers draft research and stats to this I hope. For me Jones has to many red flags for a 1st rd pick. Can Robinson break through in camp? Does anyone think he could be a good OLB?

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Don't care how long it takes an OLB to run 40 yards in a straight line in his underwear. Only care how long it takes him to run around (or through) an offensive tackle and take down a QB during an actual game. Jarvis Jones is the best player in this draft at doing just that, so if other teams are more concerned about underwear Olympics than actual gameplay, and he falls into our laps at #17, then I take him and smile.

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Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher

Don't care how long it takes an OLB to run 40 yards in a straight line in his underwear. Only care how long it takes him to run around (or through) an offensive tackle and take down a QB during an actual game. Jarvis Jones is the best player in this draft at doing just that, so if other teams are more concerned about underwear Olympics than actual gameplay, and he falls into our laps at #17, then I take him and smile.

Yep. Especially since we're interested in other players but signing none, we gotta draft someone who can get it done....

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Originally Posted by SS Laser

I wish I had Chadmans posting skills for this. But I will keep it short and sweet. If Jones falls he very well could be the pick. But I think the Steelers could surprise this year. I was concerned about Jone's speed. So I took a look at some of the OLB's for the steelers.

So maybe Chadman can add his steelers draft research and stats to this I hope. For me Jones has to many red flags for a 1st rd pick. Can Robinson break through in camp? Does anyone think he could be a good OLB?

Chadman feels so Kiperish after reading this..

First thing we should do is remove Porter and Haggans from consideration- both were Cowher picks, and Tomlin/ Colbert appear to have different criteria.

Based solely on the Combine numbers, the following players are the best fit- Sio Moore, Cornelius Washington, Trevardo Williams & Zavier Gooden.

I don't mind removing both players but were they picked on Colberts watch along with Cowher? Yes sir I agree the other measurables matter! That is why I had hope you would post! How does Jone's pro day numbers fit? I was to lazy to go look back through your thread. Pro day numbers below for you. Thanks Chadman.[URL="http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/gnews.php?id=845409-nfl-jarvis-jones-unimpressive-at-pro-day"]NFL | Jarvis Jones unimpressive at Pro Day [/URL]
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Georgia LB [URL="http://www.planetsteelers.com/player/27559/nfl/jarvis-jones"]Jarvis Jones[/URL] was not impressive at his Pro Day Thursday, March 21. He ran the 40-yard dash in 4.92 seconds. He broad jumped 9-foot-3 and had a vertical leap of 30 1/2 inches. He also did 20 repetitions on the bench press, according to multiple media reports.

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Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher

Don't care how long it takes an OLB to run 40 yards in a straight line in his underwear. Only care how long it takes him to run around (or through) an offensive tackle and take down a QB during an actual game. Jarvis Jones is the best player in this draft at doing just that, so if other teams are more concerned about underwear Olympics than actual gameplay, and he falls into our laps at #17, then I take him and smile.

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Originally Posted by SS Laser

I don't mind removing both players but were they picked on Colberts watch along with Cowher? Yes sir I agree the other measurables matter! That is why I had hope you would post! How does Jone's pro day numbers fit? I was to lazy to go look back through your thread. Pro day numbers below for you. Thanks Chadman.[URL="http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/gnews.php?id=845409-nfl-jarvis-jones-unimpressive-at-pro-day"]NFL | Jarvis Jones unimpressive at Pro Day [/URL]
Fri, 22 Mar 2013 09:22:48 -0700
Georgia LB [URL="http://www.planetsteelers.com/player/27559/nfl/jarvis-jones"]Jarvis Jones[/URL] was not impressive at his Pro Day Thursday, March 21. He ran the 40-yard dash in 4.92 seconds. He broad jumped 9-foot-3 and had a vertical leap of 30 1/2 inches. He also did 20 repetitions on the bench press, according to multiple media reports.

Height/Weight- The Steelers tend to avoid LB's that are too tall, or too heavy. In and around 6'0" appears to be the ideal height & 230-240lbs seems the Steelers target. This could be a leverage/agility reason, as the Steelers seem to be moving toward LB's that can cover TE's more during the Tomlin/Colbert era.

40 Yard- Between 4.6 & 4.7 seems to be about the right mark. Obviously, there are exceptions- generally lower, like Worilds who timed exceedingly well at 4.51.

Bench- The Steelers don't appear to have any strict guideline to the benchpress, but around 25 or so reps appears to be the norm. Obviously Spence finished well short of that, and got drafted anyway- but he claims to have been lifting with a damaged wrist, and normally puts up atound 20 reps. Might be worth disregarding this as a guide.

Vertical- vertical tests a players explosion, and it's no surprise that the Steelers value this highly. Look for players that jump 30" MINIMUM, and more towards the mid-30" range. Again, Jason Worilds tested out of this world.

Broad- Also tests a players explosion, and a broad jump of 9' & further is the area the Steelers tend to look.

20 Yard Shuttle- Again, another to watch. Tests a players agility- important if a LB is going to be dropped into coverage. The Steelers tend to look at players that test between 4.2 & 4.45 or so.

3 Cone- Like the Shuttle, this will test a players agility. Look for players that test between the 6.8 & 7 second range- or lower obviously.