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How come the legacy GT still doesn't have the h6 engine available. I know the sedan version of the Outback gets it this year. I have friend who wants to buy the GT but not until the new engine goes in. Maybe subaru is working on something special. Let's hope so.

because the H6 block is too long to mate to a manual transmission, and we've all made it very clear to SoA that we don't want an automatic-only GT. They may end up blowing us off, but the hope around here is that some sort of forced-induction GT is on the way for '03 or '04

If SOA does not give us Legacy owners some balls (HP and Torque) in the coming year or two, people are gonna start going elsewhere. Or at least I am. Come on, only a friggin 4cyl. in a 3500lb. sedan. Screw the outback with it's H6, that car is just ugly anyway you look at it. Sure it hauls the kids to school and soccer practice but the thing comes in last place in the looks dept., IMHO. Plus to shell out close to 30K for something like that, I'd rather get an IS300, MB 320, BMW 328Ci, or Jag X-Type.
This might be my last Subaru unless I decide to get the WRX STi.

I think I was smoking crack when I bought my car...........I shouldn't have based most of my decision on just looks and the AWD capabilites.
Before this car I owned a 91' 300ZX TT and got around ok during winter. It's not Buffalo so the streets pretty much clear up by noon. If it wasn't for the reliabilty issues and high maintenance costs, I might still have that car. GIVE ME A FRIGGIN B4!!!:monkey:

I disagree with the ugly issues you commented on about the outback. How can it be ugly? It looks sooooo much like the gt's. It's like a rally version since it's raised up some. And yes, we need more power. It's dumb that other countries get it and we don't! I hate that I don't have more power. I'm not asking for a corvette engine, just something better. And YES! it does have to be a 5 speed! So we agree on some things. Just not the outback is ugly comment. I'm not a mom and I don't drive to soccer games, so there.

But I prefer my car clean and simple, that's all. I prefer my car low, not high. Solid color, not two tone. That's why I debadged my car and intend to drop it 1.5in in the spring.
I actually rode in my first Outback last week and it was kinda nice with the dual sunroof. I was impressed.
Just wish my car had more POWER......that's the consensus around here.

OK, here's the scoop. I've got a friend who knows the kid of the dentist of the president of SOA and he gave me the lowdown on the next GT.

In 2002 we're gonna get a new version of the old 1.8T engine (from the GL-10) mated to only the 4EAT (5spd wasn't selling enough). They are going to change the rear swaybar to a 11mm and soften the suspension (old people said it was too "jarring" and "stiff"). The top speed is going to be electronically limited to 110mph (brakes will be downgraded to save money so it needs a lower top-speed). According to Subaru internal memos, they are going to change the target market for the GT and the badging also. Now it's going to be aimed at older retired people looking for the safety of AWD, but none of the excessive performace of cars like the Audi A4 or A6. It's going to be called the Subaru Legacy AP (as in A.A.R.P.)

I'd much rather see a Turbo than a supercharger. Easier to tune, IMHO. There are lots of already produced engines that they could toss in there, they're just acting like pussies. What about a simple GTB? It's already being produced elsewhere.