I have become a father

I returned home from the U.S. today and for the first time in two weeks saw my five week old son. He is amazing. He has a sister on the way ho should let mom know its' time for new life in this world on or about March 20.

Though I am thankful I was born in Switzerland but grew up in America, the America that once was is long gone. My two kids will not have to answer to or for the many questions that float through the RealJock forums related to the state of such a place as America. They are and will always be Swiss.

This is the most confusing set of posts ever. Gay guys becoming fathers, nothing new there, proud to be in a democracy, super. Best in the world, well, who knows where that is these days, Swiss? America? Probably in the top ten, but jesus, this whole subject is just strange. I need to calm down, you two, seriously, what happened that you no longer make any sense?

tru_blu_aussie saidCongrats, Switzerland, the worlds first democracy; it's a shame America could not do it the way the Swiss did. I would do my best to never have a child born in America, for taxation reasions.

Wasn't Athens apparently the world's first democracy?

Not universal suffrage of course...but I could've sworn in history class...

tru_blu_aussie saidCongrats, Switzerland, the worlds first democracy; it's a shame America could not do it the way the Swiss did. I would do my best to never have a child born in America, for taxation reasions.

Wasn't Athens apparently the world's first democracy?

Not universal suffrage of course...but I could've sworn in history class...

Sorry one stands corrected, it was the worlds first republic. Thus one replaces Democracy with Republic. Happy to stand corrected on that one, as like everyone else here at RJ, no one is perfect

conservativejock saidI returned home from the U.S. today and for the first time in two weeks saw my five week old son. He is amazing. He has a sister on the way ho should let mom know its' time for new life in this world on or about March 20.

Though I am thankful I was born in Switzerland but grew up in America, the America that once was is long gone. My two kids will not have to answer to or for the many questions that float through the RealJock forums related to the state of such a place as America. They are and will always be Swiss.

Life has been especially kind. For that I am ever greatful.

I'm confused.....

Did the surrogate just have one baby and another one is having another or are you adopting another child?

And why wouldn't you want tthem to live in America? To my knowledge gay marriage and adoption aren't even legal. Unless you're just a straight guy who cruises on here and you're married to a woman.

I'm very happy for you. I'd like to become a father one day, too. But, I was also confused. Do you have a surrogate mother?

MashogaNubianPrince saidI'm confused.....

Is it easy for a gay man to raise a family in Switzerland? Is society more inclusive of "different" types of families? Does the law make parenthood for gays comfortable? I'm interested since I want to have a family one day. I'm from the US and I know what it's like there. I live in China now and I think it'd be impossible to be a gay parent here.