tmac9311 wrote:I get and realize everything you guys said, I'm not entirely sure what I meant by the NWA Hollywood either, its just kind of a new feeling to have so many young and local guys take up the PWG Roster (I'm only been in since 09), and with so many young guys coming in who I first saw in NWA Hollywood (I live in WA so I'm not familar with the locals unless they are on PWG), as well as having Excalibur commenting on NWA now just gets me. I have no problem with the booking or use of talent, as I was thrilled with the additions of Mack and Yuma, and am excited for every single card and practically every match since I became a fan. I guess the roster page changing and the top indy guys being replaced with "NWA Hollywood" guys was kind of a slap in the face from reality that hit me hard. Like I said I don't have any problem with anything PWG does, I just feel uncomfortable about the relationship for some dumb reason.

Everything you just typed is absolutely stupid. PWG isn't becoming like NWA, NWA is becoming like PWG because Joey books NWA. It "gets" you that Excalibur has an extra paying job? Who gives a shit?

Yeah, I'm with Meltman. More bookings for talent I like, that exposes them to more of an audience, and gets more attention for PWG is fine for me. And many of the NWA Hollywood guys are good workers, it isn't like they cheated their way in.

Also I don't think it's fair to label them nwa hollywood guys when almost everybody has been on the socal indy scene for a while. It just so happen that they got a JOB with nwa hollywood and nwa got a tv deal. If they didn't have the tv deal you wouldn't be saying they are nwa guys, hell if you don't attend socal shows you wouldn't know who the hell they were.

If we didn't complain and nitpick they would never get around fixing things.

Another thing: Bucks need their recent DDT4 win added.

And...the following people don't have any moves listed:

CandiceRyan TaylorYuma

They've each got several. I know Candice does that moonsault, also SD's Violence Party. Ryan Taylor's got the Lion Tamer, the flip snapmare, the Go 2 Sleep. Yuma's got his modified X-Factor and that's all I know.

I'm thinking its time for another roster page update. Steen is still listed as world champ and the Bucks as tag champs. Plus there are lots of new guys that should be added like Roas, B, Kadilak and the Smash Bros.

The "Trained By" part should be removed and, in its place, list championships people have held as well as tournament wins (that's already being done). So for example in Roderick's roster box, under the DDT4 wins write "PWG World Tag Team Champion (x2)" or something. Looks more impressive.

Also some moves need to be updated. "Backbreaker" for Strong is rather vague, no? When's the last time Davey used that arm submission? Candice doesn't even have any moves listed. How about Ball-Plex, Moonsault Press, Suicide Dive Tornado DDT, etc.