Sims 4 is even more realistic than this. Organic life at 25K??? wtF????? Are you even serious??

Liquid water at 66K?? Must have 1233492 tns of salt per square litre or something...

I suggest to wait until someone has finished making a game in order to release it and don´t even dare to ask money for a product in alpha progress at best... A lot of glitches and scientific fails are killing the good concept and potential that this idea had in the beginning.

You know? Indie does not equal to poor final quality stuff. Let alone the poor optimization. i7-4000X and Gtx Titan Z and still lags with spikes of 2 fps... Gotta know what multicore coding actually means...

Maybe you could develope a procedural universe with less money and faster Yuukei, so we can see that.

And what is a square litre? Please constructive criticism not that kind of garbage. Tell us where did you found that data and lets see if there is a justification before insulting a master piece. You know, nature always makes us to encounter strange missconceptions and apparent paradoxes, maybe you are embeded in one of those.

While we appreciate feedback and critique very much, there is a right way and a wrong way to provide it. Yours was exceptionally poor, needlessly antagonistic, and I'm not quite convinced you actually understand the scientific basis of your own criticisms, either.

-How do you know life is impossible at 25K? Are you an expert at astrobiology? Or can you cite an article on the International Journal of Astrobiology which shows that it is impossible? -Where did you find liquid water at 66K? Are you sure it was not another substance? What type of planet was it (Terra, Oceania, Titan?). Please provide its location. -What is a square litre?

What other scientific mistakes do you think you have found? Feel free to describe them here. What glitches or bugs have you found? Post any unlisted ones in the appropriate thread.

Demonstrate you vast knowledge of astrobiology and show us why this is impossible. You do realise that organic life doesn't necessarily live on the surface of the planet, right? It could be living in a subterran ocean, for example, around hydrothermal vents(like some extreme life on Earth).

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Liquid water at 66K??

It's almost certainly not water. You know, water isn't the only substance that can be liquid. What you were most likely seeing was hydrocarbon.

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Must have 1233492 tns of salt per square litre or something...

Square litre? Are you serious?

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I suggest to wait until someone has finished making a game in order to release it

Why? Public alpha is good since it let's the dev listen to the opinion of the community during development, especially if it is totally free(like SE is).

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don´t even dare to ask money for a product in alpha progress at best...

And what kind of authority do you purport to be?

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A lot of glitches

Will be fixed. It's BETA for a reason.

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scientific fails

Demonstrate some. Or better yet, first demonstrate that you even have any idea of what is realistic and what is not. Your 'square litres' certainly demonstrate your lack of scientific knowledge.

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Indie does not equal to poor final quality stuff.

It's Beta, so no, it isn't final quality. Also, the quality is pretty high right now anyway. You are probably the only person who has ever complained how this simulator 'sucks'.

But you said 2 sentences before that Space Engine was not a finished product.

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don´t even dare to ask money for a product in alpha progress at best...

Well, you don't seem to understand the "donation" system do you?

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Organic life at 25K???

It is stated that life will spread and colonize planets around in Space Engine. So yes, life at 22K is possible, like in real life, life on Titan would be possible.

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Liquid water at 66K??

Under high enough pressures, water can become liquid at low temperatures. That said, a planet being "Terra" or "Oceania" doesn't mean it obviously has water on it. It would well have been liquid nitrogen or something other than water that is liquid under these temperatures.

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Gotta know what multicore coding actually means

I'm sure he does: loading is made from another logical thread, when using loading mode "asynchronous". Interleaved and Immediate loading modes doesn't use multi-core by their nature.

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i7-4000X and Gtx Titan Z and still lags with spikes of 2 fps

Oh come on. My 4 year old laptop can handle Space Engine perfectly fine. So either you deactivated OpenGL hardware acceleration (which I'm assuming you have with the troll nature of the post), or drivers are wayyy out of date (maybe they are too, why not both after all?).

You wanted your godwin point, i think you pretty much had it now. Now go troll someplace else please.

I don't want to feel like I'm piling on you after Harb's post, but I think this should be emphasized anyway:

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So yes, life at 22K is possible, like in real life, life on Titan would be possible.

We do not actually know that. We have only vague ideas as to the boundary conditions for which life can exist. Certainly they are much more extreme than what is survivable for humans (as seen from a vast number of extremophiles), but 22K (or 25 or whatever) is a huge stretch even for them. There are even some rather compelling reasons for thinking that life could not be found at such low temperatures.

SpaceEngine's life generation algorithms are not as rigidly based in hard science as most of its other features, and it can't be until we have a lot more knowledge on astrobiology. SE might be too generous. Or it might not even be imaginative enough.

We might consider tardigrades: they are able to survive at less that 1K, or in outer space. I know that they enter in some kind of "cryogenic state", but if an earthling organism can survive those conditions, Why evolution might not be able to allow them to eventually be able to develop permanent adaptation to those environments?

People bring this up a lot but never mention that most of these extremophiles evolved from species that were in a lot more environmentally stable environments or environments more conducive to the production of DNA/RNA like chemical bases. This means you most likely wouldn't have life forming on extreme worlds and any life found there would have had to evolve in a more stable environment on a different planet. This is one of the reasons I tend to assume our solar system may be crawling with life, but most if not all of that life will be from Earth.