fusillade762:cchris_39: The reading comprehension around here is somewhere between Creationist Peter and Feral Peter.

Please enlighten us, o wise one: which part of this quote are we misinterpreting?

"What we gain and my concern was then and it remains today is that the biggest threat we face is the possibility of terrorist groups like al Qaeda equipped with weapons of mass destruction, with nukes, bugs or gas. That was the threat after 9/11 and when we took down Saddam Hussein we eliminated Iraq as a potential source of that."

I read it more as Michael Corleone saying he has eliminated you as a threat. Just seems to be a better contextual fit.

fusillade762:cchris_39: The reading comprehension around here is somewhere between Creationist Peter and Feral Peter.

Please enlighten us, o wise one: which part of this quote are we misinterpreting?

"What we gain and my concern was then and it remains today is that the biggest threat we face is the possibility of terrorist groups like al Qaeda equipped with weapons of mass destruction, with nukes, bugs or gas. That was the threat after 9/11 and when we took down Saddam Hussein we eliminated Iraq as a potential source of that."

Iraq was never a threat to the US, Al Qaeda was never in Iraq until we invaded!Cheney was divvying up Iraq with the oil companies in secret meetings but yeah, it was all about WMD!

I joined the Army two days after the 9/11 attacks. I joined the Army because our country had been attacked. I wanted to strike back at those who had killed some 3,000 of my fellow citizens. I did not join the Army to go to Iraq, a country that had no part in the September 2001 attacks and did not pose a threat to its neighbors, much less to the United States. I did not join the Army to "liberate" Iraqis or to shut down mythical weapons-of-mass-destruction facilities or to implant what you cynically called "democracy" in Baghdad and the Middle East. I did not join the Army to rebuild Iraq, which at the time you told us could be paid for by Iraq's oil revenues. Instead, this war has cost the United States over $3 trillion. I especially did not join the Army to carry out pre-emptive war. Pre-emptive war is illegal under international law. And as a soldier in Iraq I was, I now know, abetting your idiocy and your crimes. The Iraq War is the largest strategic blunder in U.S. history. It obliterated the balance of power in the Middle East. It installed a corrupt and brutal pro-Iranian government in Baghdad, one cemented in power through the use of torture, death squads and terror. And it has left Iran as the dominant force in the region. On every level-moral, strategic, military and economic-Iraq was a failure. And it was you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, who started this war. It is you who should pay the consequences.

Also can't forget that Bush jr made his daddy so happy once he caught and hung that former CIA operative Saddam Hussein. Daddy failed to catch him, while he was defending that oil nation from loss of profits.

/Mubarak may become Dictator again too, as Israel did not like the new guy who was properly elected by the people of Egypt

roadkillontheweb:They better install one of those huge toilet paper dispensers on his headstone when he dies, People will be lining up to take a dump on his grave, because spitting or pissing on it just isn't good enough!

Which would be a terrible thing to do. Have you no compassion? No consideration for others? Why would you advocate doing such an awful thing, knowing how all that crap would get all over the shoes of the tapdancers?

To be fair, there were a handful of Al Qaeda affiliated groups in Iraq before the invasion - hiding up in the mountains, because if they'd shown their face in public Saddam Hussein would've killed them.

To be fair, there were a handful of Al Qaeda affiliated groups in Iraq before the invasion - hiding up in the mountains, because if they'd shown their face in public Saddam Hussein would've killed them.

What was the US debt before invading a sovereign nation that didn't threaten the US? Five trillion or so? Total cost $800 million per year, thousands of Americans killed, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis killed to prevent..what? A scud being launched against Isreal? Post-traumatic stress disorder for the survivors. A local populace that wants us gone, which will create a theocratic shiate vacuum instead on f the secular Sunni regime Saddam had in place.

We got nothing out of the second Iraq war but killing people, including the Iraqi civilians we were ostensibly liberating. Leaving Saddam was the best thing we could've done to Iraq. The fight against al Qaeda was in Afghanistan. Unwinnable Afghanistan.

I was a freshman in high school when the invasion of Iraq happened. To date, three people I know are dead because of it - 2 killed in action, 1 killed by suicide.

Cheney should be damned grateful he has lifetime secret service protection because someone (not me, I don't condone violence against public officials) will be constantly planning to take a shot at him.

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier:I was a freshman in high school when the invasion of Iraq happened. To date, three people I know are dead because of it - 2 killed in action, 1 killed by suicide.

Cheney should be damned grateful he has lifetime secret service protection because someone (not me, I don't condone violence against public officials) will be constantly planning to take a shot at him.

A couple years ago, I took a road trip to see the memorial my old unit put up, from my last tour in Iraq.

I'm not as angry about the war as I was, but Jesus Christ, it's like he's trying to be a smug asshole about it.

I was a Navy combat aircrewman who served during desert storm. Dick Cheney should be forced to stand at the entrance of Arlington national cemetery on Veterans Day to apologize to the families of the sailors/soldiers/marines/guardsmen who died for a lie.

We create thousands upon thousands of more terrorists and extremists by invading Iraq than we ever killed there. The US invading Iraq was the greatest recruiting commercial for terrorists in the world since the Russians invaded Afghanistan.

The Soviet Union didn't invade Afghanistan.

There government of Afghanistan asked for the help of the Soviet Union.

Yeah, that government was "teh ebil" in the context of the cold war. But at least communists have this thing with universal free education, healthcare and building lots of infrastructure. And they don't differentiate between boys or girls.

Whatever came after the Soviet Union leaving has just been pure shiat for Afghanistan.

Yeah if only we could have had someone in there checking to see if their was WMDs without a full on war. Oh wait we did. We made it so he had to leave early and the Bush admin attacked him and discredited him.

Yeah if only we could have had someone in there checking to see if their was WMDs without a full on war. Oh wait we did. We made it so he had to leave early and the Bush admin attacked him and discredited him.

Oh and if you don't think it's true:

Senior U.S. officials ordered the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to investigate Blix to gather "sufficient ammunition to undermine" him so that the U.S. could start the invasion of Iraq. The U.S. officials were upset that the CIA did not uncover such information.[9] [10]

spawn73:Yeah, that government was "teh ebil" in the context of the cold war. But at least communists have this thing with universal free education, healthcare and building lots of infrastructure. And they don't differentiate between boys or girls.

We create thousands upon thousands of more terrorists and extremists by invading Iraq than we ever killed there. The US invading Iraq was the greatest recruiting commercial for terrorists in the world since the Russians invaded Afghanistan.

The Soviet Union didn't invade Afghanistan.

There government of Afghanistan asked for the help of the Soviet Union.

Yeah, that government was "teh ebil" in the context of the cold war. But at least communists have this thing with universal free education, healthcare and building lots of infrastructure. And they don't differentiate between boys or girls.

Whatever came after the Soviet Union leaving has just been pure shiat for Afghanistan.