topic Re: Multiple Fios Routers from one ONT in Fios Internethttps://forums.verizon.com/t5/Fios-Internet/Multiple-Fios-Routers-from-one-ONT/m-p/785923#M56243
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="154293"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><P>The easiest way for you to expand your network is to purchase an Actiontec <SPAN>WCB3000N</SPAN>&nbsp; FiOS Network Extender from Verizon.&nbsp; This device plugs into to any active coax port in your home, connects to the main router's LAN using MoCA (i.e. over coax), provides two local Ethernet plugs and is a dual-band WiFI access point.&nbsp; The WiFi on the device will automatically be configured to match the WiFi settings on the router.&nbsp; It is&nbsp;truly a plug and play device.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>You can get more details about it here:</P><P><A target="_blank" href="http://www.actiontec.com/305.html">http://www.actiontec.com/305.html</A></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>It costs $74.99 + S&amp;H and tax if you buy it direct from Verizon here:</P><P><A target="_blank" href="http://www.verizon.com/fiosaccessories">http://www.verizon.com/fiosaccessories</A></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Don't buy it on Amazon or elsewhere, as it will be more expensive and come with a MoCA to Ethernet bridge that you don't need.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>As CRobGauth noted, cable modems are useless with FiOS.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Enjoy.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR />Okay, this sounds like the best bet... Just to clear things up in my head, the device you listed is essentially a router that automatically sets itself up to match the settings of the actual Fios router. Right? It just isn't called a router... Because it piggybacks off another device...</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I read up on it on Actiontecs website, so I think I understand what it does, and it sounds like it is exactly what I need. Thanks!</P>Sat, 04 Apr 2015 03:05:23 GMTSolidZane2015-04-04T03:05:23ZMultiple Fios Routers from one ONThttps://forums.verizon.com/t5/Fios-Internet/Multiple-Fios-Routers-from-one-ONT/m-p/785343#M56165
<P>Hi. Hopefully a simple question.</P><P>Our home is a bit too big for a single Fios router, and a few too many devices...</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I was wondering if there was a way to configure multiple Fios routers to run off the houses coax?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I've attached a diagram to help visualize what I'm looking for.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Our house is not wired with ethernet, and it's not feasible to wire it now. So I thought this up...</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>As a side thought, I also have a Linksys cable modem and seperate wireless router... Is there a way to add that/those into the mix?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I understand that the Fios router works the VOD service, and I don't want to interfere with that either. Just looking for a way to expand our home network to maintain proper speeds for multiple devices (Game consoles, cell phones, tablets, computers, etc...)</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Thanks in advance for any insight, positive or negative.<IMG title="Router Diagram.jpg" border="0" src="https://forums.verizon.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/16020i90FC5B061ED24EC1/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&amp;px=-1" alt="Router Diagram.jpg" /></P>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 05:28:17 GMThttps://forums.verizon.com/t5/Fios-Internet/Multiple-Fios-Routers-from-one-ONT/m-p/785343#M56165SolidZane2015-03-31T05:28:17ZRe: Multiple Fios Routers from one ONThttps://forums.verizon.com/t5/Fios-Internet/Multiple-Fios-Routers-from-one-ONT/m-p/785346#M56166
<P>For some reason your pic didn't come through.</P><P>Neither device you mention will support MOCA for Internet.</P><P>Options:</P><P>Use a MOCA bridge (search the forums or Google for more details)</P><P>Use powerline Ethernet adapters to conenct wireless rotuer to FIOS router</P><P>or find a way to run ethernet from FIOS router to a location where you can use wireless router as an acess point.</P>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 11:54:48 GMThttps://forums.verizon.com/t5/Fios-Internet/Multiple-Fios-Routers-from-one-ONT/m-p/785346#M56166CRobGauth2015-03-31T11:54:48ZRe: Multiple Fios Routers from one ONThttps://forums.verizon.com/t5/Fios-Internet/Multiple-Fios-Routers-from-one-ONT/m-p/785353#M56168
<P>The easiest way for you to expand your network is to purchase an Actiontec <SPAN>WCB3000N</SPAN>&nbsp; FiOS Network Extender from Verizon.&nbsp; This device plugs into to any active coax port in your home, connects to the main router's LAN using MoCA (i.e. over coax), provides two local Ethernet plugs and is a dual-band WiFI access point.&nbsp; The WiFi on the device will automatically be configured to match the WiFi settings on the router.&nbsp; It is&nbsp;truly a plug and play device.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>You can get more details about it here:</P><P><A target="_blank" href="http://www.actiontec.com/305.html">http://www.actiontec.com/305.html</A></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>It costs $74.99 + S&amp;H and tax if you buy it direct from Verizon here:</P><P><A target="_blank" href="http://www.verizon.com/fiosaccessories">http://www.verizon.com/fiosaccessories</A></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Don't buy it on Amazon or elsewhere, as it will be more expensive and come with a MoCA to Ethernet bridge that you don't need.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>As CRobGauth noted, cable modems are useless with FiOS.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Enjoy.</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 12:31:45 GMThttps://forums.verizon.com/t5/Fios-Internet/Multiple-Fios-Routers-from-one-ONT/m-p/785353#M56168gs0b2015-03-31T12:31:45ZRe: Multiple Fios Routers from one ONThttps://forums.verizon.com/t5/Fios-Internet/Multiple-Fios-Routers-from-one-ONT/m-p/785362#M56171
<P>I have the exact setup you pictured using 2 extrafios routers i picked up on ebay. There is a good post here on how to set it up&nbsp;<A target="_self" href="http://smallbusiness.chron.com/set-up-second-router-verizon-fios-60493.html">http://smallbusiness.chron.com/set-up-second-router-verizon-fios-60493.html</A></P>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 13:43:56 GMThttps://forums.verizon.com/t5/Fios-Internet/Multiple-Fios-Routers-from-one-ONT/m-p/785362#M56171SeanU2015-03-31T13:43:56ZRe: Multiple Fios Routers from one ONThttps://forums.verizon.com/t5/Fios-Internet/Multiple-Fios-Routers-from-one-ONT/m-p/785368#M56173
<P>The instructions on the "smalbusiness" site aren't that good.&nbsp; First of all, FiOS doesn't use modems, only routers.&nbsp; Whenever I see an article that insists on calling FiOS router's modems, I know that the author doesn't fully understand the system.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The&nbsp;approach listed in this article will create a double NAT, which means devices attached to the 2nd router will not be able to access resources connected to the first router.&nbsp; This is fine if all you want is&nbsp;Internet access, but prevents sharing of important things like printers, scanners and storage.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>An Actiontec router can be used as a network extender.&nbsp; It needs to be&nbsp;configured into bridge mode.&nbsp; While not that complicated, there are a specific set of configuration steps that must be followed in a specific order to get it working properly.&nbsp; If the OP has an extra Actiontec router and isn't afraid of a mucking around in the configuration menus, then this is a good route to follow.&nbsp; There are some good posts over on dslreports.com that describe how to do this.&nbsp; If you can't find them, just say so and I'll post some links.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Now, if the OP doesn't have any extra hardware beyond the useless-on-FiOS cable modem and a Linksys router, the <SPAN>WCB3000N</SPAN>&nbsp; is a great way to go.&nbsp; It really just plugs into coax and starts working.&nbsp; No configuration needed as it pulls all the settings from the main Verizon router.&nbsp; It also adds a 5GHz WiFi network.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Good Luck.</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 14:05:31 GMThttps://forums.verizon.com/t5/Fios-Internet/Multiple-Fios-Routers-from-one-ONT/m-p/785368#M56173gs0b2015-03-31T14:05:31ZRe: Multiple Fios Routers from one ONThttps://forums.verizon.com/t5/Fios-Internet/Multiple-Fios-Routers-from-one-ONT/m-p/785372#M56174
<P>Just wanted to chime in also and say that the <SPAN>WCB3000N</SPAN> will take care of it for you. Also, a similar device is what we call a NIM. We don't supply these anymore but&nbsp;occasionally you can find them on eBay. We used to install those back when we supplied D-Link routers during installs. Hope that the posters comments help.</P>
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<P>CJ</P>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 14:29:06 GMThttps://forums.verizon.com/t5/Fios-Internet/Multiple-Fios-Routers-from-one-ONT/m-p/785372#M56174Verizon_Support2015-03-31T14:29:06ZRe: Multiple Fios Routers from one ONThttps://forums.verizon.com/t5/Fios-Internet/Multiple-Fios-Routers-from-one-ONT/m-p/785374#M56175
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="223725"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><P>Hi. Hopefully a simple question.</P><P>Our home is a bit too big for a single Fios router, and a few too many devices...</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I was wondering if there was a way to configure multiple Fios routers to run off the houses coax?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I've attached a diagram to help visualize what I'm looking for.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Our house is not wired with ethernet, and it's not feasible to wire it now. So I thought this up...</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>As a side thought, I also have a Linksys cable modem and seperate wireless router... Is there a way to add that/those into the mix?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I understand that the Fios router works the VOD service, and I don't want to interfere with that either. Just looking for a way to expand our home network to maintain proper speeds for multiple devices (Game consoles, cell phones, tablets, computers, etc...)</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Thanks in advance for any insight, positive or negative.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Take the 3 way splitter out of the diagram, as you're not allowed to get 3 wan addresses, and it will work just fine with some configuration of 2 of the routers.</P><P>Make any one of the routers the primary router and then configure the others to be in bridged mode on the network.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Here's how to configure a secondary router as a bridge.</P><P><A rel="nofollow" href="http://support.actiontec.com/doc_files/Configure_MI424WR_as_a_LAN_MoCA_Bridge.pdf" target="_blank">http://support.actiontec.com/doc_files/Configure_MI424WR_as_a_LAN_MoCA_Bridge.pdf</A></P><P>&nbsp;</P>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 14:56:51 GMThttps://forums.verizon.com/t5/Fios-Internet/Multiple-Fios-Routers-from-one-ONT/m-p/785374#M56175viafax9992015-03-31T14:56:51ZRe: Multiple Fios Routers from one ONThttps://forums.verizon.com/t5/Fios-Internet/Multiple-Fios-Routers-from-one-ONT/m-p/785923#M56243
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="154293"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><P>The easiest way for you to expand your network is to purchase an Actiontec <SPAN>WCB3000N</SPAN>&nbsp; FiOS Network Extender from Verizon.&nbsp; This device plugs into to any active coax port in your home, connects to the main router's LAN using MoCA (i.e. over coax), provides two local Ethernet plugs and is a dual-band WiFI access point.&nbsp; The WiFi on the device will automatically be configured to match the WiFi settings on the router.&nbsp; It is&nbsp;truly a plug and play device.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>You can get more details about it here:</P><P><A target="_blank" href="http://www.actiontec.com/305.html">http://www.actiontec.com/305.html</A></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>It costs $74.99 + S&amp;H and tax if you buy it direct from Verizon here:</P><P><A target="_blank" href="http://www.verizon.com/fiosaccessories">http://www.verizon.com/fiosaccessories</A></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Don't buy it on Amazon or elsewhere, as it will be more expensive and come with a MoCA to Ethernet bridge that you don't need.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>As CRobGauth noted, cable modems are useless with FiOS.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Enjoy.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR />Okay, this sounds like the best bet... Just to clear things up in my head, the device you listed is essentially a router that automatically sets itself up to match the settings of the actual Fios router. Right? It just isn't called a router... Because it piggybacks off another device...</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I read up on it on Actiontecs website, so I think I understand what it does, and it sounds like it is exactly what I need. Thanks!</P>Sat, 04 Apr 2015 03:05:23 GMThttps://forums.verizon.com/t5/Fios-Internet/Multiple-Fios-Routers-from-one-ONT/m-p/785923#M56243SolidZane2015-04-04T03:05:23ZRe: Multiple Fios Routers from one ONThttps://forums.verizon.com/t5/Fios-Internet/Multiple-Fios-Routers-from-one-ONT/m-p/785924#M56244
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="223725"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><BR /><P>Okay, this sounds like the best bet... Just to clear things up in my head, the device you listed is essentially a router that automatically sets itself up to match the settings of the actual Fios router. Right? It just isn't called a router... Because it piggybacks off another device...</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I read up on it on Actiontecs website, so I think I understand what it does, and it sounds like it is exactly what I need. Thanks!</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>It is not a router.&nbsp; It does not provide any router services such as DHCP or NAT.&nbsp; It is a MoCA bridge, Ethernet switch and WiFi access point.&nbsp; It does exactly what it's name implies; extends your home network.&nbsp; It requires a router to run the network.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>If it was a router it would create a&nbsp;separate sub-network within your home.&nbsp; Devices attached to the sub-network network would be able to access the internet, but not other devices on the main network.&nbsp; Most routers can be configured to act only as a bridge and WiFi access point, but that requires some mucking about in their configuration menus.&nbsp; It's not hard (I've done it with my old Actiontec rev I) and is a good idea if you already have an old router lying around and don't mind playing with router configs.&nbsp; But if you need to buy new equipment and don't like to configure networks, the <SPAN>WCB3000N</SPAN>&nbsp; is a great option.&nbsp; It helps that it adds 5Ghz WiFi as well.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Enjoy.</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Sat, 04 Apr 2015 03:13:13 GMThttps://forums.verizon.com/t5/Fios-Internet/Multiple-Fios-Routers-from-one-ONT/m-p/785924#M56244gs0b2015-04-04T03:13:13Z