I was blown away by the comic con comments by pj regarding the simarillion. He said he probobaly wont live long enough to make them and Tolkien hates these films anyway so they most likely wont be made. Was that a ploy to get a charge out of the Tolkien estate? Might have been. I want to hear their response. I am an aspiring writer and I will state now that I would LOVE for anyone to adapt my story. The only reason to say no is if I am spoiled with success and that is what Tolkien estate is, spoiled. This is for fans. Yes. It makes money too. Yes it takes liberties of change. But overall it works out for the good of both parties. I am sad to hear pj say that comment. Do we reallg think they will hate the hobbit? And they hated lotr? I hope they didnt profit from any of it. Hating them and taking money for it is even worse. Any thoughts? I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve!

They are, IMO, largely bad films that cheapen the source material through some truly amateur and sloppy treatment. There are a few moments of brilliance, and some very good design choices by Lee and Howe, but overall...meh. Compared to the books, they are toweringly stupid, IMO.

As far as I know, they have not made a single statement about hating the films. Actually, they havent said much at all, they sort of clammed up like a hedgehog when it comes to the movies. In fact they are pretty much silent about everything, apart from the money they wanted in the lawsuit with New Line.

Christopher Tolkien has every right to appreciate the films and he has sufficient reason to as well.

They are,, largely great films that embrace the source material through some truly serious and carefull treatment. There are many moments of brilliance, and some very good design choices by Lee and Howe, so overall a good, even if flawed adaptation.

Compared to the books, they are not as good obviously, but shine on their own.

CTolkien comments on the commercialisation..and the destruction of the value of his fathers work, leads me to disregard his opinion ...he underestimates and doesnt understand many things.

I look forward to a new, more collaborative, open attitude by his sucessor ...especially if it helps bring some of the Silmarilion's stories to the big screen or tv.. I read somewhere that Tolkiens grandsons ? have different views on this subject... One of his grandsons was at the TORN Tuesdays with Quickbeam recently and i found him much more open than CTolkien..

Well, not *all* of JRR Tolkien's family are "protective" of his works to the point of disliking the films
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For one, Royd Tolkien is a super cool guy who was also an extra in ROTK. I'm sure he loves these films. In fact, he visited the Hobbiton set just a couple of weeks ago. But that's not to say he respects JRR Tolkien's works any less than you or me, or, the Tolkien Estate.

I also don't believe the entire Tolkien Estate dislikes these films. I mean, come on, they're after all people like you and me. I'm sure some of them like the films, even love them, though their job requires them to work towards "protecting" the literary property the films derive from.

If I worked for the Estate, yes, I'd have to follow the rules (so to speak), and "protect" Tolkien's works. But I'd be entitled to my opinion.

You'll also notice I keep putting the word "protect" in quotes... that's because I don't understand the concept of it

The Plan 9 Interview... in celebration of the 10th anniversary of the release of The Fellowship of the Ring.

That's unbelievably condescending. He doesn't like the films, and you do. Your opinion is in no way superior, and you have little claim to "understanding" anything better than Christopher Tolkien on the subject.

This is a matter of taste. Deal with that. Not everyone needs to love PJ's films.

Maybe not easily...but i would certainly to warm up to it and be as collaborative and helpfull and supportive as i could...George rr martin's attitude or alan moores is very different...i know its different situations, but i prefer their attitudes towards adaptations of their works than CTolkiens..

The closest I'm going to get to a Tolkien family member is if I imagine being one . And when I imagine that, I too probably wouldn't like the films. I would watch them, and then make a judgment. But if Tolkien was my father, I would share C.Tolkien's opinions.