The Unknown Bills Blogger

You know what we love about our coach? He’s a straight shooter, no lies, no sugar coating, just cold hard facts. He said it best from his 1st interview, “This is a tough game, for tough people.” That comment extends way beyond the hitting and the physical pounding, and I didn’t realize it until this week. The toughest part of our game is mental. Imagine if at your job there was a video camera on you every second, and not only were you videotaped- but you were then forced to watch it over, and over, and over again while your boss is critiquing every microscopic detail of your day….every day. Then when the inevitable bad day occurs, that boss reams you, tells you that you were flat out bad and that if you don’t get better you will be fired. After that, you have to recover, perform better or every bad thing he said will turn into reality. You still think the NFL is ALL glamorous?

This scenario is actually a good day for us players. You see, a lot of times in this business you don’t get that. You hear one thing- then another happens. This is a worst case scenario, how do you know how to perform and what’s expected of you when you don’t know what to believe? This is why we are lucky to have Coach Gailey. We know what is expected of us, when he talks we listen. When he asks us to do something, we go at it 100%. When he tells us we are bad, we agree and do everything we can to fix it. This is why we didn’t stop fighting when we were 0-8 last year and that’s why we won’t stop this year. We may not win every game but you have to agree that the effort is there. It’s just a matter of bringing the good all together at the same time. I’m not saying this to defend our Coach because our Coach doesn’t need defending. He’s done a good job and everyone on the inside knows it. I’m merely saying this because with all the coaching change this week it has me reflecting on my own situation and the more I think of it the more I realize how good I’ve got it.

With three weeks left in the season the Dolphins Tony Sparano, and the Chiefs Todd Haley are fired. This brings up a lot of questions. The dolphins have been talking about this for weeks, why after they started 0-7 and the talks started did they not pull the trigger? Why did they wait until he gets the team on a winning streak to pull the trigger? And why doesn’t either team wait until the end of the season? Of course only those two teams know these answers, but let’s brainstorm. I think the main reason is this: they thought, “let’s put it out the news that we have an opening”. It allows them to sample a coach as interim currently on the payroll. It can allow certain coaches time to decide if they would be interested in that job and time to get excited before they are officially eligible to be hired. And let me just say right now, I do not envy any of the candidates for these jobs. I love the game and love the coaching aspect, but I would never want to be a Head Coach in this league. In today’s game, these guys have an extremely short leash and an unbelievable amount of responsibilities. They are expected to win in a very short time, which means they have to do it with a bunch of guys that might not fit their mold.

Look at the college ranks, most people agree that it isn’t until the 3rd or 4th year until you can see if a college coach is any good. That’s because it’s when the players they recruited are finally on the field. Take for instance if you are a defensive minded coach and you have an unbelievable 4-3 defensive scheme, but the old staff built the team around a 3-4 scheme. It takes time to get that 4-3 personnel on the roster. This business is a “what have you done for me lately league”. In my opinion, it’s extremely tough to be successful in the short term, and you may have the winning formula just not enough time to develop it. The guys are crazy for wanting this job. Coach Gailey said it best when asked about the Cowboys Jason Garrett going into the business. He said, “I thought he was smarter than that.” You can’t help but laugh and agree with that!

Can it get any worse? Feels like I went to sleep Halloween night and had a month long nightmare. Think back to October 30th. We took a drive up north to Toronto and dominated the Skins’. Everything was looking peachy at that point. Do you remember all the hype after that game and how we were going to dominate and get home field advantage in the playoffs? Seems like a long time ago, I agree, but then again if you think back this month has flown by! …Good thing too because man has it been bad for us Western New Yorkers! I sure can’t wait to wake up from this nightmare on December 4th and finish the season the way we started it. You guys deserve it and we do too. We’ve worked too hard and you’ve cheered too hard to throw in the towel now.

Moving on to better news, tomorrow marks the second annual Christmas tree cutting event! I never had the opportunity to cut down my own tree growing up so since coming to Buffalo, I’m taking advantage of the opportunity. Don’t over think this one trying to figure me out. I didn’t necessarily start this tradition my first year here, but last year was great fun. We drove out to the town of Boston, climbing up into the mountains with snow just coming down in the buckets. I got out of the truck decked in all my best flannel with the family laughing at how much fun I was having. We hiked through row and rows of trees trying to pick out the perfect one. Unfortunately we made one mistake and I’m only telling you so hopefully no one else makes the same. We walked perpendicular to the road and not parallel!!! By the time we cut down the perfect one I can’t even tell you how far we were away from the truck. At this point we’ve got pictures of me picking the tree up in perfect snatch (power lift position) technique and hiking through a foot and a half of snow with this 8 ft tree all the way back. I’ll tell you as soon as we got there the beanie and flannel came off, I was hot as hell in 20 degree weather by that point. So needless to say I will be picking a tree a couple rows off the street this year. [Classic rookie mistake] So what’s the consensus out there, do you guys cut your own, buy already cut, or do you go with a lifeless, smell less fake tree? That was an unbiased question I swear.

I must say I am a little bummed this year that there will be no snow when we go out there. It’s been great this season in terms of weather, but its Buffalo and its after Thanksgiving, I am ready for the snow…Yes I might be the only one and will probably be the first one to wish it was over in early January, but for now I’d like some snow. Alright guys, we’ll catch up later in the week, hope to hear some feedback on your Christmas traditions or what kinds of trees you guys like.

Work, work all week long, Punchin’ that clock from dusk till dawn. Countin’ the days till Friday night, that’s when all the conditions are right. FOR A GOOD TIME!!

I have to say, during the season I think of you fans and envy your Friday nights! I just picture all our Western New Yorkers getting off work and heading to the watering hole to start the weekend off right! In the off-season that will be me for sure, but not now, this time of year I am proud to know you guys are doing it for me!

So now that I act like you guys have all the fun and we are envious, why did I start by saying it’s our favorite day too? Let me give you some insight to our work week. On Monday, we come in for film review and lifting. Most people are surprised I say weight lifting the day after the game, but believe it or not we have to do it then before the soreness from the previous game sets in on Tuesday! Monday is our Friday night to put it in perspective. Tuesday is player’s day off and essentially our “one-day long weekend”. Wednesday and Thursday are the big days of practice where we get beat to hell again trying to get ready for the game. We are easily at the facility ten-plus hours each day. Then comes Friday…what a gift! We have already installed the game plans, so it’s essentially a “dress rehearsal”. We have condensed meetings following by another tough practice. Although we still arrive before 8AM, we finish up around 1PM and get the rest of the day to ourselves. Everyone uses this day for their own pre-game rituals. We’ve got guys that go home and take three-hour naps. Others go get a massage to loosen up before the big game. Some guys go catch a movie and simply relax their bodies. Friday’s give us that time in the week to relax after studying and working so hard, to get our minds and bodies ready for Sunday. If I had to compare it to something I’d say it’s the calm before the storm. You guys don’t let me down and keep living it up on Fridays and I won’t let you down and get myself in the right frame of mind to do my very best on Sunday.

I told you I’d give you a vibe towards this Jets game and here it is. Nobody likes the Jets. Regardless of the fact that it will help us make the playoffs, we just can’t stand to watch them win and don’t plan to let them. Count on a hard hitting, never give up kind of game. We may have new faces in the lineup this week, but it doesn’t matter, they already don’t like the Jets either and plan to play that way. Everyone worked exceptionally hard this week and we had three great days of practice. We plan to transfer that to the field this Sunday.

Talk to you guys next week, enjoy the weekend and remember, it’s time for a good time!

Another rough outing, but is it time to give up on the playoffs like everyone is saying? Are we really the 2008 Bills? I don’t think so…at least not yet! It’s ok if you disagree, but at least hear me out. Let me start by asking you a question: If we started this season 0-5, then won 5 straight to bring us to 5-5, would you still say we are done? Or would you say, “I don’t know, I think these guys have a chance!?" I think the latter, everyone knows it’s hard to keep 11-5 teams out of the playoffs, and a lot of time 10-6 teams make it too. So are we out of this thing yet? No. If we keep this crap up the next couple weeks then we will be and I’ll agree with you, but not today and not yet.

So do you also think we are the 2008 Bills? Nope. Here's why: That team is history. Let me ask you another question: How many players, coaches, and football operation staff are left from that year? Not many at all. Most of our guys have no clue what the 2008 Bills did, nor do they care. These guys are here to do their thing and make this a winning place.

Ok, so from the outside it seems the same. The 2008 team started hot and then fell apart. This team started hot and has had a three-week letdown. That is not enough to justify the comparison to me. The media can make such a general statement as this and people believe it blindly. My college coach always said, “Don’t worry about the outcome, worry about the process.” If you look at more than just the win-loss column you will see what’s going on here. You will see that we played just as hard the last minute of the Miami game as the first. You will see that we haven’t and don’t plan to give up. You can see a winning team trying to break through the surface. It may be this week or it may be next year but you can see what is being built here, not what is falling apart as the season progresses.

Sometimes you take a step back, that’s fine, just make sure you take two steps forward after that. Sometimes you fail, that’s fine, just learn from it and try again. Look at the big picture Bills fans, we are putting together a winning team and we are doing it fast. There has only been one team to go undefeated in NFL history. Everyone loses at some point. Lots of teams lose more than three games. Just most don’t lose them all in a row. I get that and feel the frustration. But it’s ok as long as you win three in a row to make up for it. Don’t give up on us just yet.

Now, time to answer some of your questions you've been kind enough to send to Christian Dan (dannyb@wcmf.com).

Growing up, who did you pretend to be playing football in the back yard, and again in high school? - Mary, Greece

Thanks for that awesome question! Think I just zoned out for about 10 minutes re-living some great memories!!! To answer your question, I pretended to be a couple of different players. I was "Primetime," or "Neon Deion." Yes. Deion Sanders. Remember the black -and-white sneaks? Almost zebra print looking? Sure had me a pair and loved to celebrate after touchdowns.

How would you fix college football to include a playoff? What would be your system? -Missy, Canandaigua

I (just like everyone else who has an opinion) have the perfect solution! You keep all the bowl games in place and sell tickets just the same with this exception. Teams ranked 3-6 will use two of the four major bowls as a first-round playoff while teams ranked 1 and 2 essentially get a first-round bye. After that, the winners then play teams ranked 1 and 2 in the other two major bowls. The winners from those games play in the National Championship game. With this model several things happen:

1.If you finish the season in the top six, you have a chance at the title

2.The longest a season can possibly be extended is two extra games! And that is only if you are ranked 3-6 and keep winning.

Baseball is going to HGH testing soon. How soon will the NFL and do you think it will work? - Gene, Webster

I think it will be within the next couple of years that it is accepted in the NFL. The NFLPA has made it clear to us that they are happy to embark on HGH testing once it's proven reliable. At this time it is unreliable. There is the possibility that a player that has not done HGH can test positive for it and ruin his career. Currently tests and studies are in the process to show and make the testing reliable. Once that is done it will immediately be in place.

Alright Bills fans, I’ll catch up with you later in the week and let you know the vibe in the locker room going into a huge Jets game.

“Work, work all week long, Punchin’ that clock from dusk till dawn. Countin’ the days till Friday night, that’s when all the conditions are right. FOR A GOOD TIME!!”

I have to say, during the season I think of you fans and envy your Friday nights! I just picture all our Western New Yorkers getting off work and heading to the watering hole to start the weekend off right! In the off-season that will be me for sure, but not now, this time of year I am proud to know you guys are doing it for me!

So now that I act like you guys have all the fun and we are envious, why did I start by saying it’s our favorite day, too? Let me give you some insight to our work week. On Monday, we come in for film review and lifting. Most people are surprised I say weight lifting the day after the game, but believe it or not we have to do it then before the soreness from the previous game sets in on Tuesday! Monday is our Friday night to put it in perspective. Tuesday is player’s day off and essentially our “one-day long weekend”. Wednesday and Thursday are the big days of practice where we get beat to hell again trying to get ready for the game. We are easily at the facility 10+ hours each day. Then comes Friday…what a gift! We have already installed the game plans, so it’s essentially a “dress rehearsal”. We have condensed meetings following by another tough practice. Although we still arrive before 8AM, we finish up around 1PM and get the rest of the day to ourselves. Everyone uses this day for their own pre-game rituals. We’ve got guys that go home and take three-hour naps. Others go get a massage to loosen up before the big game. Some guys go catch a movie and simply relax their bodies. Friday’s give us that time in the week to relax after studying and working so hard, to get our minds and bodies ready for Sunday. If I had to compare it to something I’d say it’s the calm before the storm. You guys don’t let me down and keep living it up on Fridays and I won’t let you down and get myself in the right frame of mind to do my very best on Sunday.

I told you I’d give you a vibe towards this Jets game and here it is. Nobody likes the Jets. Regardless of the fact that it will help us make the playoffs, we just can’t stand to watch them win and don’t plan to let them. Count on a hard hitting, never give up kind of game. We may have new faces in the lineup this week, but it doesn’t matter, they already don’t like the Jets either and plan to play that way. Everyone worked exceptionally hard this week and we had three great days of practice. We plan to transfer that to the field this Sunday.

Talk to you guys next week, enjoy the weekend and remember, it’s time for a good time!

Two weeks in a row--what a bad feeling. I’m sure you guys are just as embarrassed as us after this weekend. You think you are a good team and you know the importance of a win, and then a day like this Sunday comes along. Rough. If you are a reporter or maybe even some fans, your thoughts immediately go to, They're through, or Same ole' Bills. But if you are a Buffalo Bills football player, you get over it, do the math and know that none of it is true. The only way we are "through” is if we believe that and stop working our hardest. Not going to happen on this team. If we finish the last seven games like we started at 5-2, we give ourselves a post-season chance. If we do one better at 6-1, it’d be hard to keep us out of the playoffs. And although Cincinnati and the Giants are good football teams, we beat ourselves in those games. We know we could have been 7-0. It’s not impossible and it’s very attainable. It’s just up to us to go out and do it. It all starts with Miami, this week is all that matters, and we must get a win and show we can play like we did the first half of the season.

I told you I wasn’t overly impressed with my performance from the Jets game and made sure to really focus and work to improve against Dallas. Good news is I did make improvements. I was not perfect this week, (which is a good thing, you never want to be perfect and lose) but I did gain ground and I know to keep at it and I will keep making strides.

Now, I'm going to take the time to answer some of your questions that you were kind enough to send my way.

1)Who do you think has been the worst injury to the Bills this season? -Dave in Rochester

This is a tough question to answer because I believe a football team is built like a puzzle and to be truly great all pieces must be in a place. All of our injured guys are important and had a role to fill. That being said if I had to narrow it to one at this point in the season, I’d have to say Shawne Merriman. It’s so much easier to do this in retrospect then at the time. At the time, Shawne did not have great numbers and many thought he had been underperforming, but in reality he pressured the quarterback. He may not have had great sack numbers but he was always close enough to pressure the quarterback and make him throw the ball sooner than he would like. It seems as of late we have been getting beat because the quarterback has been sitting in the pocket throwing at will.

2)How hard is it to balance family and football and do you and your family reside in Buffalo year-round? - Mike in Gates

I can’t answer the second part because I don’t want to give too much insight as to who I am! The balance of family and football is something that takes time to master and it takes a great family to truly make it work properly. During the season, there is a rigorous schedule that must be kept. It doesn’t matter what you are in the middle of, when it is time to be at the stadium you must drop everything and go. A less understanding wife could get very upset with this and create problems. If you have kids, sometimes just walking up the stairs at the end of a long day to tuck them in could sound like the hardest task of the day. A lot of times your wife will pick up the slack during the season to allow you to keep focused and do what’s needed on the field. The good news is that the off-season gives you a lot of time to more than make up for slacking during the season. It’s the off-season that allows you to spend time with family and not worry about schedules letting them know they are the most important thing in your life.

3)Do you think the rest of the league has finally caught onto you guys? - Jim in Greece

I don’t think the league has caught on to us, I think the league has just started to respect us. Take our offense for example: they were downright dominant to start the season and as of late have started to struggle. I think the biggest cause is respect. When you earn the RESPECT of others, they are forced to reevaluate themselves and prepare differently. At the beginning it was easy, this is how the opposing team played defense and this is how we were going to beat it. As we started to gain respect, the defense would scheme for us specifically and throw different looks at us to try and beat us. Look for that to continue, but look for us to find ways to beat the different looks as well.

Alright guys, I’ll catch up with you on Friday before the trip down to Miami.

This week seems to have flown by. For me time flies either when I am having fun or am really busy. I'd like to think it’s a little of both. Funny thing is I did fewer activities outside of work than any other week. I just relaxed at the house, watched movies and tested out some of the wife’s new dishes. Man, those quesadillas were good last night. My college roommate had a quesadilla maker back in the dorm room and I guess that got me so narrow minded to think that’s the only way you can make them. I was proved wrong, surprised and I think that’s why they were so good.

The rest of the time flew because I was busy at work. I wasn’t overly impressed with my performance last Sunday and definitely wanted to step it up this game. To quote Muhammad Ali, “The fight is won or lost far away from the witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym, and out there on the road; long before I dance under those lights.” This week, I went back to my roots and made sure to follow this quote. You see, this quote has helped me get where I am today and I know to keep following it and I will have a much better chance at having a long career. Much like the rest of our team, when I left college, I was not a sure fire lock to make a team and worked my butt off to get here. In my gym there was a poster in front of a treadmill of Muhammad Ali with the above mentioned quote. I would stare and read the quote repeatedly and just keep running all the while increasing speed. Ever since that time, every time I got tired during training I’d remember how much faster and further I went just from being mentally strong and know I had more in me and know I had to do more to be better. Let’s hope staying true to what got me here will also help to keep making me a better player. You’ll have to let me know if I do better this weekend…if you can figure out who I am!

Excited to get down and play in Dallas. One of the exciting parts of my job is to go to all the different stadiums and see them. Dallas is brand new, has that giant jumbotron and should be a lot of fun to see…before the game. Once the ball is kicked all the fields are the same size and everything outside the white lines becomes a blur. So don’t worry about us being awestruck and not taking care of why we are there! We are all looking forward to taking care of business this Sunday!

Catch up with you guys next week, enjoy the weekend and don’t have too much of a hangover on Sunday to party in your living rooms like you would at the Ralph!

Man. Sunday was a heart-breaker. I am finding it harder than ever to live by the “24-Hour Rule” this week. Surprising I know, but I think it’s harder to get over a loss like that than to move on from a big win. Either way it must be done. We are still tied for first place in the division and remain in control of our future.

As you guys saw, Murphy’s Law was in effect on Sunday. The worst part about it is we knew exactly what the Jets were capable of and what we had to do to win. Remember when I hit on the importance of kickoffs last week and how we had to beat them in that area? Not only did we not beat them, we also lost our kicker making a touchdown-saving tackle. Remember when I said they had good defensive backs and, therefore, would throw a lot of different blitz looks at us to try and confuse us? Well they did and we didn’t adjust. That’s what makes it so hard; we knew what they were going to do and we still lost. We could have won that game, we know it, and just didn’t play our game. The good news? We get another shot at the Jets at the end of the month.

Last night was Brian Moorman’s celebrity wine-pairing event. Everybody had a BLAST! What a great way to support children suffering from various forms of pediatric cancer. In Brian’s six years hosting this, it was by far the best year yet. If you weren’t there, you missed quite a show. During dinner we had the “No-Named Buffalo Bills Band.” (Ironic, huh?) They literally did not have a name. It consisted of coach Daryl Daye on the electric guitar and lead vocals, safety Brian Scott on the keys, linebackers Arthur Moats on the drums, and Danny Batten on the bass. They highlighted the night by playing “Johnny B Goode”. What a riot! It’s hard to believe these guys are as musically gifted as they are. Watching them get up there and just jam was priceless! It was an amazing night relaxing, helping a fellow teammate make a difference, and of course supporting such an important cause where all of the proceeds and care BOTH stay right here in WNY.

Promise me one thing this week, friends, will ya? Don’t sulk over that loss Sunday and I promise I won’t either. We’ve got the Dallas Cowboys up next. This, like every game, is the most important game of the season. Like Coach Gailey said, the Jets and Patriots are playing this week which means one team has to win. If we want to keep pace as division leaders we, too, must win.

Is everyone prepared for the snowstorm that’s hitting the Ralph this Sunday?!?! That’s right, you’re Bills players are calling for a whiteout at the Ralph. If you don’t have your gear… check out @steviejohnson13 and @DavidNelson86, they have some suggestions on where to buy some good whiteout gear. We are hoping to get a good turnout with a packed stadium to help give us the extra edge.

All week we have been reviewing film, going over the Jets and let me be the first to say, these guys have talent. Everywhere you look - they have guys producing. We’ll go over Special Teams and Defense today, starting with Special Teams.

Remember who led the NFL in Kick Returns last year? Brad Smith. He now plays for the good guys (that’s us of course) and you’d think the Jets would have had a drop off, but guess who is leading the league in Kick Returns this year? Joe Mcknight- of the New York Jets. That’s a matchup to watch! We are at the top of the league in tackles inside the 20. With the Jets leading in return yards averaging 40 yards per attempt, that battle will be critical in the field position game. Make sure to keep an eye on it.

The Jets Defense is where Rex and the Ryan Family have made a name for themselves and it’s what they pride themselves on. I guess that means you won’t be surprised to hear they play defense well. They have great DB’s which allows them to do a lot of different things up front. Look for them to try and confuse us and get guys unblocked to the ball, specifically ex-Bill, Aaron Maybin in passing situations. Just as an update, Aaron has had three sacks and three Forced Fumbled since joining the team.

So, why are we continuing to win? Well I already went over how the city of Buffalo plays its part and just how well we get along together. I’d also like to add the fact we have no selfish players. We each know what the strengths and weaknesses of each other are, and more importantly the weaknesses. It’s good to know and accept your weaknesses because first, it helps you to work harder to eliminate them, but second, it helps you to stay out of situations that they can be exploited. I honestly feel that we play and are coached to be in positions that showcase our talents. Sounds pretty self explanatory but you’d be surprised how many times you have coaches that expect you to be able to do everything regardless of whether that’s your niche or not.

You think talent is everything but it really isn’t. It’s all about how you use the talent you have to be the best TEAM. We are a TEAM and we must stay a team to get through a long season where lots of things change from the first day to the last day.

Alright guys, look forward to seeing you at the whiteout on Sunday, rowdier than ever! This is the biggest game of the season and time to put this week’s work into action.

Jump up and shout now! I’ve been singing this song all day! Gotta take advantage of the 24 hour rule and make the most of it. Hope you guys are doing the same. Can you believe that game? Man was that fun to be a part of! We went up there and took care of business- the way it’s supposed to be done. Coach Gailey told us it doesn’t matter what type of environment we play in, at the end of the day the only thing that matters is the win-loss column. Based off his press conference, he was equally impressed with the turnout as we were. You guys accepted my challenge and started to change the atmosphere up there. It was definitely a step in the right direction!

I have to ask, what was your favorite play of the game? Let’s see if anyone has an answer that can change my mind, but for now, I’ll say it was Freddy’s 40 something yard run on the first play of the second half. Going into halftime I was worried that with our 13-0 lead and the way we had been dominating all game, we may come out flat and let up some. That obviously wasn’t the case, and I think that particular play set the tempo for the rest of the game. I’ll let you know Friday if someone came up with one that changed my mind, but either way I’d love to hear the fans perspective on some highlights.

Before every game, everyone gets ready a little differently. Many guys choose to listen to music on the bus ride into the stadium. The short ride from the hotel to The Rogers Centre only gave me a chance to pick three songs before we were there. I’ve got over 7,000 different songs of ALL types of genres on my iPad, so I really had to make each one count. On Sunday, I woke up feeling real relaxed and ready to go so I chose to keep that mind set on the way to the game. first choice, who better than a classic artist, James Taylor? I was going for Country Road when I saw Copperline, and went immediately made those the first two songs to play. You guys being classic rock fans should know exactly what I’m talking about. It’s hard to listen to James Taylor and NOT be relaxed. While I was listening to both of these my wife was driving up from Buffalo and we were texting back and forth, so the more I texted her the easier my relaxing third choice became, Tom Petty’s Wildflowers. Great song, I can’t hear that without thinking of her.

There’s a glimpse into my thoughts before a game. A game that is supposed to be extremely violent where you must either hit someone, or get hit and I’m in the bus listening to Tom Petty thinking of my wife. I’d bet that surprises a lot of folks out there, but hey I’m just being honest, giving you insight into a pro’s mind. We’ll see next week, I may need to get fired-up and listen to some Lil Wayne, or let the lyrics of Eminem’s Lose Yourself help me get focused. What songs do you guys put on the playlist to achieve different mindsets? Shoot them my way- I’m always looking to add to my music collection.

Alright guys, get back to work, and I’ll get back to mine- getting ready to take it to the Jets on Sunday. Let’s meet back here Friday, I’ll give you guys a taste of the scouting report and follow up with my perspective as to why we keep winning. Talk to you then.