The 3/4 knicks I have are bibs and are very fleecy. I only wear them in winter in Sydney. The pearl izumi 3/4 knicks would be better but I would still think a bit warm?

The shorts are a really funny fit. I have just sent two pair back to the UK as they are a really unflattering length. I am short but the xxs literally went to the top of my knees. The waist band was really comfy but they were just too long and looked strange.

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