On Thursday, October 4, 2001, Jim and Chris appeared on the John Carney Show on KMOX, the top
radio station in St. Louis. When Jim asked John before the show how much time they would have, John replied, “It depends on how interesting you are.” The show started at
11:00 PM and Jim and Chris must have been interessting enough because they were on for two hours!

Jim Likens, on left, gets left out as Chris sets the camera on self-timer, runs around the room and acts like he is a close
personal friend with John Carney.

Jim Likens, left, John Carney, center, and Chris Bergmann, right, take a break during the exciting two
hour show. Carney suggested that Likens and Bergmann should be on the stage. He said there was one leaving at 4:00 AM.