quote:Every freaking drive that ended in a TD. You can down load ALL the stats in zip files from CFBstats.com and compare the across years and across all of CFB.

I pulled td drives off the drive charts from lsusports....Perhaps you're including defensive and special teams TD's with a drive length of 0 in your average. Just add (paraphrasing) 'where drive_length > 0' to your query.

quote:on average, 57.8 yards to score touchdowns that season.

compared to 61 for the 2006 team. Hardly a 20 yard difference. I had 61 for 2011 because I intentionally left out NWST.

re: "Offense is the problem" (Posted on 1/15/13 at 2:43 pm to CptBengal)

quote:shift those goalposts...FAST

I don't have goalposts to shift...I'm not one of the ones in this thread making blanket statements. I haven't seen actual numbers on starting field position, just rankings, which probably were skewed with 0 yard drives.

quote:ETA: typo, average starting field position was just past the 42 yard line

wait is this on all drives or just TD drives. How about all drives? that would be much more appropriate IMO. regardless of whether they scored or not who had the ball in the best field position all year?

either way there is a reason the 2006 o is ranked ahead of the last few years.

quote:ETA: typo, average starting field position was just past the 42 yard line

2011: LSU ranked 13th in the country for best starting field position on drives ending in touchdowns (22nd on all drives)

2006: LSU ranked 66th in the country for best starting field position on drives ending in touchdowns (90th on all drives)

ok, I imported the drive data from CFB into mysql and ran the queries. Let's dig a little deeper...

First of all, your rankings are skewed because the data contained FCS/Other division teams who probably only had 1 game worth of data in the record set. For example, ranked first based on average starting spot in 2006 is Wofford, with 1 game in the dataset.

Second, using actual starting position for all drives, the following data was returned from the query...

2006 - 69.357 / 30.6 yard line 2011 - 66.392 / 33.6 yard line

Where drives end in touchdown, drive length / starting spot

2006 - 61.682 / 38.3 yard line 2011 - 57.857 / 42.1 yard line

So we have a 3 yard difference in overall starting position, and a 3.8 yard difference in TD drive starting position. Not much of a story here...

This database is cool, thanks unknown for the info on this...digging a little deeper into the 3 yard difference in 06 and 11. In 2011, kickoffs were from the 30, in 2006 they were from the 35. This had the following impact...

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re: "Offense is the problem" (Posted on 1/15/13 at 4:53 pm to Topwater Trout)

quote:Top of the cage boom!

I think he missed the mat on this one and boom goes to Fore. Such a shame to put so much effort into discrediting LSU coaching, and all for naught. Next will be attempts at discrediting Miles coaching 4 of the Top 5 LSU Scoring Offenses (Rushing and Passing TDs, also found in '12 Media Guide)

re: "Offense is the problem" (Posted on 1/15/13 at 7:08 pm to ForeLSU)

2006 we averaged 6.6 yards per play on offense. 7th in the country.

2011 we averaged around ~5.6 yards per play lower than 50th in the country.

So there is one mighty big difference there. And to say 3 yards difference in starting field position is not a big deal is misleading. Especially when those three yards mean you are top 10 ranked or 70th ranked in the country.