glossary of drugs

posted on April 3, 2009 at 8:10 pm

very keen to disarrange his mindkilbey plunged into the world of the illegal drugshe quickly became friends with marijuana cannabis and hemp(a legal firm : marijuana, cannabis and hemp)he’d tried drinkingand frankly it gave up no visionsit made him feel sickbut of marijuana he quickly became an intimate aquaintanceand sampled it in all its formsthe thirty dollar deal of homegrown leafthe primo buddha stickshashish made from the pollen of the flowering headshash oil extracted from hashhydroponic grown under lightssativa n indica the two varietieshash ice from a cold extraction processbongspipeschillumsvapourizerschroniccommercialmaui wowiewhite widownorthern lightsyou name iti had iti smoked iti inhaled iti ingested itand its somewhere behind virtually every single song of minethat you ever heardpot was put here as a blessing for the musicians n writerswho find it helps get things goingi been doing it nearly 40 yearsit cant be THAT bad for yaits not that good for ya i’m surebut it cant be that badthe western govts have outlawed this drug unfairlyits a travestymy friend is still in jail because he dared have too much in his gardenthe government has saidthis plant is so evil so bad for youthat we will lock you upfor yer own protection….yeah rightthanks idiotswhat a pathetic worldmy mate in jailn george bush free….HA! kilbey then tried the hallucinogenslsd which can be highly elevatingor deeply distressingi never liked the strychnine in the stomach feeling muchi didnt like how it kept you awake after it wore offi liked the meaningfulness i found in iti liked the way it helped me perceive that all was onethat it was all connectedi liked the way it made me reinterpret music and arti liked the special feeling it gave me like i was in the knowthen kilbey had mushroomswhich were like a gentler more natural lsdthey put a big grin on yer facei tried dmt (not that long ago i 1st had it)thats something else againits a huge information downloadits a message from yer fucking sponsorits the aliens talking to usits a new mathematical/art pyramidrevolving in yer head suggesting aesthetic solutionsthen theres the san pedro cactuswhich is mescaline, babyoh my oh mythat one is wild and weirdand its actually good for yer heart n bloodpressure, fair dinkumthis is a total trip so dont go down the discoyou can buy san pedros anywhereso buy oneget online n read preparation instructionsnvisit some other south american magic realistic uni-versei also smoked diviner sagewhich i do not recommendit made me feel weird for daysi did not enjoy its weird revelationsit had no art or music for mei smoked angel dust…horriblei smoked ice….now thats a warm nice n dangerous feelingyeah ice is like smack in thatits not a spectacular feelingbut just a very subtle warm detachmentif you hate yerself its a very attractive feelingof coursejust like smackwhen you dont have iteverything you hated about yerselfwill be multiplied a thousand foldso it gives a littlebut it takes a lotive snorted n shot amphetamines tooonce again not an outrageous drug like mescalineyou feel alert talkative benevolent…at firstif you keep going you end up fried like an olde eggbut if you had a snort every now n then(and could keep it to that)it wouldnt really do you any harm(much!)speed makes me hornylike ecstasy does tooas does cocaine(giving the desire but sometimes removing the wherewithal)cocaine is a complex n highly addictive drugi snorted iti free based iti smoked it as cracki shot it upits subtleits so dangerousthe best stuff is so deliciousthe bad stuff is so fucking badeither wayif you have too muchsay goodbye to your creativityitll flee ya babynever to returnit dont mix with my musicit dont mix with my creativityit dont enhance my enjoyment of musicbut it makes ya horny(yesterdays quote from nk : yoga makes me horny i say : does it?her (after some thought) : everything makes me horny) ooh cocaine ‘ll destroy ya in ways you never imaginedand i never was addicted to itbut i certainly have been n could be again obsessed with itif you had the good stuff n it didnt make you obsessed…..i wonder…but it wont write a song for ya like pot or acidand its really very nasty stuffit fucked marco boleyns creativity and TOTALLY!if only you had a little time lapse dispenserthat could give you a tiny line once in a blue moonbut i doubt youll be able to control yerself…lab rats will choose cocaine over food n horny she-ratsthey will suffer running over electric currents to get to itif allowed they’ll snort emselves to deathso beware all you ratsthen we have a weird drug like ketamineneither pleasant or unpleasantketamine kicks ya into the astral planeand its very hard to describe itnot a lotta funbut possible inspirationif you wanna think on another leveli wouldnt really care to do it again myselfnlaughing gas which i loven wouldnt mind trying some morei get it at the dentistbut he never turns it up enoughthe reveries are strange n fleetingayahuasca..the vine…only did it oncenot really qualified to say much but wow!could be the big onethe really inspiring onestay tuned!the opiates are problematical drugsive had opium morphine heroin methadone oxy continbupa norphene (however you spell it)i tell ya thisthey will all fuck you beyond beliefthey will not make you hornythey will not give you savoir-fairebut if you darein the honeymoon stage of opiatesyou may find some groovy inspirationbut look what happened to mealthough priest =aura was my opium albumi just became a very boring junkyand all junkies are boringand methadone is real rubbishreally bad for yamuch worse than smackna million times harder to get off ofBEWARE!kava kava is a pleasant dreamy drugguarana is interesting in higher doses caffeine can be nice or nastynicotine is a niggly little drugbeing straight can be greatbeing stoned can be groovyit aint a legal issuemaybe a health or moral issuebut not a legal issueno more than sexuality should be a legal issuei resent the millions of men n women locked up for drugsone day in the futurethis will be perceived as barbarismjust like the way we treat animalsbut its hard to break out of old paradigms of thoughtsome people would rather have a gun owner next doorthan a pot smokersome people think breast feeding in public is obscenesome people think its ok to drop smart bombs on dumb civiliansspecially if they live far away n arent white or speaka da englishthe drug laws create the crime associated with drugsjust like prohibition created crime with alcoholremove them n you remove crimelet drugs be a medical issuelet people decide for themselveslike they do with foodi mean obesity kills more people than smackby a long shotbut i dont see em making big macs or kfc illegal sooni dont see em making wars illegal soonbut they take away one of mankinds consolationsnay obligationsto change ones consciousnesssearching for inspirationsearching for answerssearching for oblivionsearching for another take another viewbullshit thats not my right!what?god made a mistake when he made the poppy or the vine?marijuana is an implicitly evil thing n should be eradicated?people taking ecstasy should be arrested n slung in jail?for our own fucking good?voice in another room : YEAH RIGHT!!!

39 Responses to “glossary of drugs”

Your blog yesterday was somewhat sad. It seems like a story you need to tell and you do it well. There’s a whole enigmatic thing about drugs, but especially heroin, and you do a good job of dispelling the myths. From a standpoint of enjoying your music, I’m glad it’s behind you.

The post today was interesting. It reminds me of the liner notes to a Talking Heads best of CD where David Byrne basically runs down his experiences with drugs. I thought that was a funny way to accompany your box set Mr. Byrne.

Having had some of (but not all of) the experiences that you have described here, I completely agree with the last bit about the legal issues regarding drugs (and sex for that matter). I’m in America and I suspect it’s much worse here. I understand some sort of line for civil behavior has to be drawn, but I spent a month in Holland last year and having a handful of unmotivated hippies hanging around is certainly no threat to civilization as we know it.

Anyway, it’s good of you to be so open about your experiences. While possibly you’re preaching to the choir (you know, church fans), I know I agree.

ps – your take on cocaine is sort of interesting. It seems like the drug least likely to have a creative side, having seen plenty of people turn into rats fiending over the stuff. But in my experience it can if you can keep it at a safe distance.

This is a fascinating read, I’ve always loved reading about drugs and all their effects yet I’ve rarely dabbled myself. I enjoy good beer and wine and I take plenty of herbs to stave off an ‘incurable’ condition that is in fact curable or at least reversible. Now Korean Ginseng… that’s surely up there with cocaine for horny!

AMEN!! This is what I’ve been saying for years. For the most part, this “modern society” has it completely backwards when it comes to the drug laws and public demonizing of certain substances. Just even the way they (the media) say the word…”and the suspect was found lying next to a small MAR-uh-WONna cigarette. As you can see, he was obviously doing THE POT, so he is obviously GUILTY!!!” Or better yet, some of the STOOOOPID commercials…’see what happens when you smoke weed…” Although, perhaps even high-school is still a little too early to really delve into such things. Ironically, that is when you really want to try things, but that is especially when you go OVERBOARD with everything.

Anyway, yes, I do appreciate the naturals, (MJ/Shrooms)especially pot for it’s creative aspects/enhancements, etc. Coke, that’s a different story. NO WAY for me, baby. I’ve seen it fuck things up WAY too much, including my band. I stand by that, if it wasn’t for my fucked up drummer and his lying little coke habit and always ruining a real recording session or better yet, wanting to “go out side and box” because one of us would offer constructive criticism! Yuck, that shit got old. The again, it was our/my fault for allowing him and the drug that much power. For those of you who know what this is like, it is a very, fine line… friendship/fortune.

As far as the opioids go, yes I do get a script once in a while for my bloody back problems. I don’t go too public about it because of what everyone thinks…everyone’s got some sort of opinion on how to fix it, etc. But alas, my MRI and CTs say differently…”hmmmm, there really is pain going on here.” So along with all the stretchy, stretchy and yogaesque healing, it still kills pretty bad from time to time and so, a nice dose of a controlled substance is good. It allows me to have a normal relationship with my co-workers and wife, my guitars, and my dreams. I know some of you know what I am talking about, pain so excrutiating, you can’t even listen to music without being pissed off at the world. I’m not talking about something a little Advil will knock out. (I wish actually) Long story short, I gotta a bad back due to to much jerking around as a younger man, perhaps having too much fun until an accident happens. Along with playing music and just enjoying life, I was a tree-trimming, land-scaping, motocross-racing, acting/old-west stunt show/horse- riding, surfing, downhill-skiing, love-making SOB!! Yes, I had a blast doing most of that, but there were some serious injuries, and before you know it, you’re in your thirties and hurting like you never thought you would…24/7. I shook them off, only to really feel everybit of the after shock in my “advancing years.” Yes, I strectch out EVERYDAY religiously, I don’t do tha booze, I like coffee (a lot) and rarely good tobacco and of course, tha ganga (not too much anymore unfortunately) (too hard and expensive to get and my trust of shady characters has diminished since the olden days) As far as abusing narcotics, I don’t feel like I do. I do not pop pills for fun or for the “effect”. Having the edge off your pain though is a godsend. If weed could do that by itself, I would be cool with that, but it doesn’t and any happy pothead will tell you the same. There’s only so much it can handle and personally I don’t like to be that goofy asshole who just smoked his whole stash so he can feel his face go numb and sit there with a bag of cheetos and that stupid shit-eating grin and nasally laugh. Know what I mean? I just had the pleasure of visiting my brother in LA and I smoked a “peace-pipe” with him, just enough to really, truly enjoy it again. (It had been months, maybe even close to a year) Hmmmm, perhaps THAT is why i have hit such a creative brick wall lately.

So, maybe what it comes down to, is that certain drugs are not so bad, some are completely evil and some are ridiculous concoctions that were never meant to be injested. (Some of those are even the biggest money-makers for pharmacutical companies even now) Basically too much of ANYTHING is bad. No?

The biggest problem with the “War on Drugs” (not to mention the “War on Terror”) is that it will NEVER end, it will Only get WORSE, and MANY more will die and lose their homes and go to jail and families will suffer, villages will be raided, innocents will be ganked like pheasants from a hundred yards by “do-gooders” calling themselves “minute men.” C’mon, this world really has to re-think what is truly important and what is worth putting our resources in to protect. I’m not saying the world would be better off if we were ALL high, but certainly Pot, for Christ’s sake, should be decriminalized across the board, world-wide, end of story. That whole aspect of it is completely ludicrous…LIFE PRISON sentences for a dude who had an ounce on him??? WTF? The control of the poppy situation is a whole different story, there’s is way too much money at stake to make it a free for all market. You bet the Gvmts (especially the US) wants to control that market too, both legal and illicit. Anyway, this could turn into another BIG discussion I am sure, not to mention guns and sex!! 🙂

Well, thanks for another very insightful and indeed inspiring session, Steve and Co. I know this was long, but whoever disapproves, please get over it. I have seen some of your long rants as well. I just find certain topics more interesting that others, ok? Peace and Love to you all.

I agree to a point,having been an advocate for this path in the past.But, if so many people are against these substances, they must be able to see something intrinsically wrong with the picture, si?

Maybe militant prohibition is an over reaction and misses the point, but drug users also need to take responsibility for the counter effects of being so into your own state of mind that you are maybe not contributing to the progress of this beloved world.

And you know if those of us who see problems and a hesitant future stood our ground in workplaces and other public and social places, a paradigm shift may happen, and more quickly (paradigm shifts are notoriously slow and finely balanced little critters). While shows like underbelly keep the stereotypes going, i reckon its sort of a steeper uphill battle.

Its also true that things can seem rosier retrospectively. This(2009) maybe a time when being straight has its own creative edginess.

I would ban slaughterhouses, hunting, trapping, fishing, vivisection, abortion, fur farms and all the genocidal massacres of those who can’t speak for themselves before banning most drugs and all unhealthy junk foods.

Sorry to say that demon alcohol is the only intoxicating substance I have enjoyed. I could be one of those bloated blokes at the ARIAS telling Kilbey what he better sing.

The t.v. in the other room is on spike channels new show DEA.What a bunch of self congratulatory small minded robots. I’m glad to hear you and other comments tell the truth about the crime CREATED by prohibition. Rather than defend against the lies I try to focus on all the harm they cause. Watch the news here in the states and the big story now is how all these Mexican cartels are becoming armed like never before, more violent and all thanks to help from the u.s.a.It’s starting to spill over the border.

Its sometimes this knowledge that is learned the hard way that really matters the most. Im glad that your in the know, and you are wiser for it. Awesome Factory gig on youtube. SUCH enthisiasm. Especially Tantalized! WOW. Keep doing what your doing!CLaudeGalveston TX

Wow thats a lot of information to digest. You certainly know your stuff Steve. Thanks to Ben also for an interesting comment. Everyday I wonder how ‘on earth’ we are going to sustain this beautiful planet for much longer. It’s bad enough to see the rapidly growing number of obese families and morons breeding indiscriminantly putting a strain on mother nature or the daily destruction that alcohol brings to all communities, so thank fuck that drugs are illegal. The last thing we need now as we hang on to survival, is a bunch of drug fucked introvert mendicants not contributing to society. Drugs arnt gonna stop them from breeding! Most members of society are law abiding so if it wasnt illegal the use of drugs would escalate out of control of course so then we would have fat drunks taking drugs as well. Oh goody. Obviously I am not ‘better’ because I like alcohol than someone who likes pot, but the lines have to be drawn somewhere surely. Linda

Since the Allied occupation in Afghanistan has increased, the amount of drugs coming out of there has increased tremendously. Several trillion dollars flow through the worlds banks directly from drug money being laundered each year. The oligarchs of the world monetary system want it this way. Just see what has come out of G20. US/UK leading the way to increase the IMF’s coffers with more gold being sold to them. New World Order comin’ right up. The psychotropic drugs handed out by quacks n pseudo scientists (psychiatrists who happened to unleash LSD and Ecstacy, to name a few, onto society) create the madness we see in these mass shootings all throughout the world at schools etc.

Drugs are poisons. Period.

I worked at a rehab long enough to know that any drug messes any person up in small and large doses. I personally saw less psycholigical damage done from heroin than anything else though the withdraws weren’t pleasent. Pot had the least severe physical side effects when withdrawn from. LSD, ice, cocaine and drugs of that ilk permanently scare people psychologically. Alcohol is the most insidious to get people off. It is a hypnotic for one and its available on almost every corner in almost any town around the world. Medical drugs are the scariest. These things are legal and can be bought for next to nix. The users of these drugs take the longest to recover (some taking over 1 year) and are heavily scared psycholgically. Every person who came through the centre used drugs to escape some problem in their life that they couldn’t handle. They found an escape in drugs. This is 1 for 1out of over 300 cases I worked with and rings true in every other Narconon centre across the world. When a person finds they can control their life better and solve their problems, they cease to need drugs and the fact they used drugs to do so actually abhorrs them. Hemp has a sad history as it offers so much outside of the “weed dude”. Its oil from seed, fibre from the stems etc are superior products to anything out there. We can thank Dupont for shutting down any chance of that happening. Fucking synthetics…

I do not condone this blog.

I know your music has an influence from the drugs. I know I liked to listen to the church when I was stoned or whatever in the past. Funny though how I enjoy your music more than I ever have since I quit that shit. I do hope you are still clean and giving it a chance. It’s the best thing for you and those associated with what you do.

always open a can of worms when you start talking drugs like this, don’t you…..i can’t claim to have a moral high ground when it comes to this stuff but i know that i’ll be scared for my daughter with some of of the shit that’s going to be around when she’s a teenager….all i can do is make her happy in her self and good and strong and hope for the best….dunno, there’s a line that’s disturbingly easy to cross between recreation and fucking one’s life up, isn’t there….love always…..

right on killah..!!Respect!Up here in winterland i could loose my job, my family, my life, just by smoking a joint..but alcohol this monster when overconsumed, slay people,thrash families and bring so much pain and costs for the society in our part of the world, is seen as a socially accepted and great drug..i dont like speed that much, makes me nervous.smack scares the hell out of me, coke is ok once in a while..i´d love to try smoking opium just once..acid wow !! but left me emptyheaded for days….just pass the joint, thats enough for me,inspiring as it is..call me a criminal or a fool but i prefer it to alcohol anytime.take care//Pat

Of the above I regret nicotine the most. I never managed to control it, packed up smoking for 7 years once, had 1 in a moment of weakness and was back on 25 a day within the week. ‘cos of the old nicotine I won’t risk sharing a spliff nowadays. Haven’t touched a ciggie for 3 years and 10 months…..would kill for one right now though.And ciggies are legal but you go to prison for growing another type of plant. Strange old world.

the only experience I’ve had with drugs is that I wasted a good 8 or so years with a pot head, nearly lost my beautiful sister in her drug hell and two beautiful people who were like brothers to me have long since passed away.

So I’m not such a big fan! I feel more connected to the universe via a Yoga class than any drug could possibly give me.

Isn’t making wonderful, thoughtful music a “valid” contribution to society? How does one calculate the value of their individual contributions?

“We can never judge the lives of others, because each person knows only their own pain and renunciation. It’s one thing to feel that you are on the right path, but it’s another to think that yours is the only path.”–Paul Coelho

I do agree with the legalization of most drugs in that it will put a dent on the activity of various drug cartels and whatnot. But something that truly bothers me about drug users is that unless they can trace the original source of where their stuff came from, somewhere along the line they are probably supporting thieves and murderers. Even the friendly neighborhood dealer probably isn’t as friendly as he seems.

I suppose that people get their hands on what they want one way or another, so if they want to screw up their own life they can do it, but I would like to see and end to the little war underneath it all.

Oh, and I want to add that I know that not everyone who deals drugs is a crook in some way. I worked with a guy who spent a number of years in federal prison for selling LSD at a Grateful Dead concert. That’s just silly.

Today i went and bought myself a bottle.Like we used to do.Reminded me of you…Today i saw a train roll by the river.Blowing off some steam.Reminded me of me…That’s when i threw the bottle in the river.That’s when i started running for the train.There’s something that you need,i can’t deliver….Carry me away.Carry me away.xX

The only drug I’ve had any access to for the past 5 years is alcohol, and it’s not one of my favourites by any measure. Just a ragged, blunt hypnosis that seems to dehydrate the soul. But I crave the derangement, can’t do without it.

Desire, eh?

Oh, and there’s caffeine, of course (twice daily) and nicotine (not for the past five years, thankfully. I ain’t gonna work on maggie’s farm no more)

As the cliche goes: “God made weed, Man made booze”. So I completely agree with your argument although I don`t have the same experience as you`ve had with certain substances (fortunately!). As a humble user of pot, hashish, acid and mescaline in my gloriously misspent youth, I must say I go for those mindexpanding, selfrevealing, mindmanifesting substances. I don`t indulge too much these days but most of my time in the “real” world these days is preoccupied with exploring the unknown, infinite dimensions that the use of entheogens revealed to me. Yeah, the doors of perception opened up wide. Oh, sweet mystery of life! And why am I here at this moment in time, on a blog in cyberspace, manifesting my thoughts on this topic???!! Well, for the simple reason that the music of this band called the Church and this being calling himself stevekilbeythekiller clicks completely (well, at least 60% of it – sorry!) with my attitude and experience in those dimensions. A fellow traveller!The soundtrack of my life…… Just wanted to let you know that even though you haven`t got rich and wealthy from your music, you sure have tapped into the Divine reservoir of human potential to express what is behind the veil… A True Artist!Bring it on kilbey!!!!

very interesting today. i’ve pretty much had experiences with all the mentioned substances minus a couple. some i dove into more than others…pot, lsd, coke, ecstasy. i never could be creative doing coke…as soon as you do a couple of lines all you want to do is more lines. forget the instruments…pot and lsd…i immediately want to play. haven’t tripped in years though. definately a few records i’d like to hear on it. so maybe?????loved the tidbits about the new songs from a couple of days ago…just read it a minute ago.

aah, drugs. most have had experiences, good, bad, indifferent, tragic….. my first exposure came at an early age (it seems to me) when i was putting dry towels up in my parents bathroom and came across a tray on the top shelf. it was red, and on it were several roaches, papers, a bag of pot, seeds, etc… i was 9 or 10. the shock was profound at the time. a few years later, my mom divorced my dad. i was quickly growing wiser. when i was 16, i called my mom to let her know what time my sister and i would be over for our weekly overnight visit. she was incoherent and dropped the phone in the middle of the conversation. confused about what to do, i called my father at work and he said that i needed to get over there asap and to not take my little sister with me. when i arrived, she didn’t answer the door so i jumped her patio fence and saw her passed out, naked, on the bed. she had tried to commit suicide by swallowing handfuls of tylenol. shortly after this, i learned that my mom was in deep, deep debt for a raging coke habit. she was scared, couldn’t pay it, depressed, yaddy yiddy yaya. my dad paid it, my mom went to rehab, and got clean. naively, after all that, after such a heavy price, i thought that my mom was done with that. i was wrong. up and down and round and round it went until about 6 years ago.

after being so close to it, i was wary and careful. if i was smart, i could keep it fun time- recreational. i tried crank, coke, acid, ice, ecstacy and i routinely partook of the great herb. i enjoyed most of it but i always had enough self control to never let it get out of control.

in 02, i herniated a couple of discs in my lower back. it was excruciating. every pain medication that could be prescribed was prescribed. i took it, needed it for the pain. i never noticed when it became less for pain and more for peace of mind/habit until i was completely too far gone. within a couple of years, i became a shadow of my former self. all my drive, motivation, zest for life, sense of humor, contentment became wrapped up in the search and procurement of my next set of pills. i knew what was happening to me, hated myself for it, but could not stop. i did things that i could never imagine myself doing. i felt so fucking powerless. even today, after being clean since june 07, i can’t believe that it was the same person. it’s so hard to reconcile. i had tried on my own several times to stop but always failed. failure after failure only led me farther down the black hole of self loathing, hate. the only time that i could forget about the piece of shit that i had become was after swallowing 4 or 5 oxycontins or 5 or 6 lortabs. i became so introverted. i couldn’t discuss it with my wife (she’d been thru so much shit already that if she knew i was using again…..) or anyone else. it was my secret. i ended up losing my job. my wife (now my ex) began having an affair with another guy. everything that i cared about, all that was important had become secondary. i hit rock bottom when my ex asked for a separation (before i knew about her cheating). in a moment of clarity that must have been of divine nature, i saw my salvation. i drove myself to my old hometown, called my mom (she’d understand after all) and checked myself into rehab. i had made that break, knew what i must do and for the first time in a long time, i had full confidence that i would not fail. that was june 25, 2007 and to this day i haven’t thought about using again. i am fully aware of the traps that lay ahead but i will not fall. i lost the woman that i loved, my dream house, the right to see my beautiful girls every day, lots of material possessions but i wouldn’t trade the peace of mind ive found for any of it.

thats my story. drugs can and will destroy if you let them. i still smoke from time to time but it’s the only vice i have. (i don’t see it in the same way as other drugs) there are so many different beliefs when it comes to drugs and i can’t fault any of them. it’s all personal choices. i’m a regular here at the time being but i think this once that i will hide behind the ole anonymity cloak.

I apologise, but the original Narcosis 5-song E.P. and Priest=Aura are two of the most amazing things you’ve ever done. Just my opinion. Not that if you’d stopped after Blurred Crusade, Heyday, or Starfish that you’d be any less important or respected as a songwriter, as those albums are all magic, man! And I’m not short-changing your work since – I love it all, really and truly. Regardless, so sorry for the personal toll you had to pay to get off the heroin, but I can’t help but thank you for that sacrifice if it had anything to do with you coming up with Narcosis or Priest=Aura, these incredible recordings that will be cherished by our children and grandchildren long after we’ve exited this terra firma, as long as the human race survives, if it does survive…

Anyone on here trying to say that drugs are bad and no one has ever made a valid contribution to society while under the influence should swallow their tongue and die. Even if you disregard artists like the Beatles, you cannot deny something as profound as Francis Cricks discovery of the double helix as it relates to DNA. He had this insight while on LSD. Also Carl Sagan was an avid pothead and admitted in his own memoirs about how some of his best ideas came to him when he was stoned. I'm sure there are legions of members in the scientific field who have gone the same route but would never admit it for fear of losing credibility. That's why as in the case of the two previously mentioned scientists this information only came to light after their deaths. They intended it to be that way.