Originally posted by LemonMelon Actually, it's not that great live, IMO. Especially the Zoo TV version, which is essentially the same as on the album. Elevation Fly is a different story altogether.

I completely disagree with everything you just said.

- It's absolutely phenomenal live.
- The Zoo TV version has much improved vocals and guitar tone, as well as a much improved second half of the song.
- The only time The Fly wasn't epic was on the Elevation Tour version, which had a shitty guitar tone.

Will Lemon be on the Zooropa list, out of curiousity? A remix of it was on the B-Sides disc. I'm wondering how legalistic we're being--it doesn't matter to me one way or another, but I was just wondering.

- It's absolutely phenomenal live.
- The Zoo TV version has much improved vocals and guitar tone, as well as a much improved second half of the song.
- The only time The Fly wasn't epic was on the Elevation Tour version, which had a shitty guitar tone.

Shitty guitar tone, maybe, but it actually did something different with the song.

You're imagining things if you think the Zoo TV version is different from the album. It really is exactly the same. The only difference is that you can hear what's going on at the very end because the terrible production is gone.

Originally posted by the tourist Will Lemon be on the Zooropa list, out of curiousity? A remix of it was on the B-Sides disc. I'm wondering how legalistic we're being--it doesn't matter to me one way or another, but I was just wondering.

Lemon is there. To be excluded, a song has to be on the regular pressing of the main disc. Anything else, such as additional tracks on regional pressings or songs on the bonus b-sides disc, remains in the game.

I'd also like to add my support for The Fly live. I've seen it at 9 out of 10 U2 gigs and I'd happily hear it at another 9, while most of the shows I've heard at 9 or 10 gigs I'd probably be happier if they disappeared from the set. (Though most songs that I want out of the regular set, I wanted out of the regular set long before I saw them a multitude of times.)

__________________"Mediocrity is never so dangerous as when it is dressed up as sincerity." - Søren Kierkegaard

Ian McCulloch the U2 fan:
"Who buys U2 records anyway? It's just music for plumbers and bricklayers. Bono, what a slob. You'd think with all that climbing about he does, he'd look real fit and that. But he's real fat, y'know. Reminds me of a soddin' mountain goat."
"And as for Bono, he needs a colostomy bag for his mouth."

I've missed a few polls for AB but damn, what a terrible turn out so far....Wild Horses instead of Ultraviolet??? Are you people insane?

Zoo Station should have been voted off before ultraviolet and wild horses...I can't bare looking at it right now it's too frustrating...of course voting it off isn't frustrating though

and...So Cruel going so fast like that? That was a sinister move by inteferencers

such a mistake! stop looking at the music with such a scientific mindset, if you know what i mean...I saw someone posted something like, "It's just the same thing for 5 minutes, a simple melody and blah blah blah..." NO! it's the most beautiful song on the entire album besides One and maybe Love is Blindness...that's the bottom line

Originally posted by CTU2fan Ah well that settles it, CTU2 will be a complete bitch throughout the Zooropa voting

Glad to know I won't be the target for at least a short while.

__________________"Mediocrity is never so dangerous as when it is dressed up as sincerity." - Søren Kierkegaard

Ian McCulloch the U2 fan:
"Who buys U2 records anyway? It's just music for plumbers and bricklayers. Bono, what a slob. You'd think with all that climbing about he does, he'd look real fit and that. But he's real fat, y'know. Reminds me of a soddin' mountain goat."
"And as for Bono, he needs a colostomy bag for his mouth."

I was surprised nobody leapt all over my alternate tracklist for Achtung. That's been the target of some really vehement hatred in the past.

__________________"Mediocrity is never so dangerous as when it is dressed up as sincerity." - Søren Kierkegaard

Ian McCulloch the U2 fan:
"Who buys U2 records anyway? It's just music for plumbers and bricklayers. Bono, what a slob. You'd think with all that climbing about he does, he'd look real fit and that. But he's real fat, y'know. Reminds me of a soddin' mountain goat."
"And as for Bono, he needs a colostomy bag for his mouth."

Wild Irish Rose fits in very well on Achtung if you have the right order. It's in my top ten U2 songs - definitely some of Bono's best lyrics, all other attributes aside.

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__________________"Mediocrity is never so dangerous as when it is dressed up as sincerity." - Søren Kierkegaard

Ian McCulloch the U2 fan:
"Who buys U2 records anyway? It's just music for plumbers and bricklayers. Bono, what a slob. You'd think with all that climbing about he does, he'd look real fit and that. But he's real fat, y'know. Reminds me of a soddin' mountain goat."
"And as for Bono, he needs a colostomy bag for his mouth."