The Curious Case of Dr Zakir Naik- A Muslim’s View

This article has been authored by Sri Saif Ahmad Khan and is being published exclusively on Agniveer.

The personality whom I will be scrutinizing today is a controversial Islamic missionary hailing from India. Dr Zakir Naik is the Founder and President of Islamic Research Foundation which is based in Mumbai, the economic capital of India. He also runs a non-profit television channel called Peace TV. Dr Naik functions as a televangelist and gives scores of lectures every year in different parts of the world regarding Islam. He considers removing all sorts of misconceptions surrounding Islam and Islamic societies as the objective of his work.

He has also authored some books and founded an International Islamic School in Mumbai. Dr Naik is popular among his followers primarily because of his vast knowledge of the Quran and other major world scriptures belonging to different religions. He has memorized various scriptures in several languages and quotes the exact chapter and verse number while delivering his talks. He believes that it is not the opinions of religious leaders which matter but what is mentioned in the divine scriptures.

I would like to mention when and where I came to know about Dr Zakir Naik first. My maternal grandfather is an intellectual par excellence and has a deep penchant for writing and reading. The first time I heard Dr Naik speak on television was at my grandpa’s place. This happened more than half a decade ago and I was too young to construe as to what was being said. Hardly had time elapsed that my grandfather became disillusioned with Dr Naik. Being a libertarian and to some extent a follower of values propagated by Sir Syed Ahmad Khan (who criticized polygamy and Hudood), my grandfather stopped listening to Dr Naik presumably because of his orthodox views.

I was reintroduced to Dr Naik by my younger cousin brother some days prior to I joined college. He had great fondness for Dr Naik’s knowledge and debating prowess. Initially, when I began to hear Dr Naik attentively, I was awestruck by his sharp memory and insightful knowledge of not only the scriptures of Islam but also of other faiths like Christianity and Hinduism. But as I began to evaluate Dr Naik thoroughly, I unveiled that aspect of his personality which caters to the fanatic fringe of Muslims.

The first objection which I would like to raise about Dr Naik is regarding his views on 9/11, Taliban and Osama Bin Laden. While delivering a lecture titled “Is terrorism a Muslim Monopoly”, Dr Naik alleged that 9/11 was an inside job and not the brainchild of Muslim miscreants. The evidence which he placed before the house was based on conspiracy theories mooted by documentaries on 9/11. He even suggested that the ones whom we see committing atrocities in the name of Taliban are actually not Talibanis because of the style of their turbans. Dr Naik echoed similar views during a famous episode of “We The People” on NDTV.

Through his lectures Dr Naik may condemn terrorism and extremism but to harbour and disseminate such views about 9/11 and Taliban is certainly not done. Dr Naik refused to acknowledge Osama Bin Laden as a terrorist. He believes that it is wrong to accuse him of terrorism based on the news reports of BBC. In one of his lectures when he was asked whether Osama Bin Laden is doing Jihad then he replied by stating, “If he is terrorizing the biggest terrorist ie America then I am for him.” It’s a matter of great regret that a person who was responsible for the murder of thousands of people including Muslims was lionized by Dr Naik. It’s totally dishonest on the part of Dr Naik to claim that 9/11 was an inside job based on conspiracy theories and turn a blind eye towards video tapes of Osama Bin Laden in which he has taken full responsibility for carrying out 9/11 and praised the inhumane terrorists who were a part of the plot. It’s far more dishonest to defend an organization like Taliban which is involved in bombing schools of innocent children. Unlike Dr Tahir Ul Qadri, who has issued a fatwa against “Suicide Bombing & Terrorism”, Dr Naik considers suicide bombing to be Islamically permissible as a last resort.

Defending terrorists like Osama Bin Laden isn’t the only controversial thing which Dr Naik has done. He has gone on to speak against rights of Non Muslims in Islamist countries. When a Sikh man asked him as to why were Non Muslims not allowed in Mecca and Medina whereas Non Sikhs were allowed to visit the Golden temple, Dr Naik replied by saying that maybe the Golden Temple was not as holy as Mecca and Medina. He further mentioned that Mecca and Medina were like cantonment areas with restricted entry. This kind of a defense of an exclusionary practice based on someone’s faith appears preposterous to me.

Dr Naik has also supported the illiberal laws of countries like Saudi Arabia where Non Muslims are not allowed to propagate their religion nor are they allowed to build their places of worship. Dr Naik reasons that no school would allow a teacher to say that 2+2=3. He says that since we Muslims are sure that Islam is the true religion as the Quran testifies, Non Muslims shouldn’t be allowed to propagate their religion in Islamist countries. This kind of reasoning sounds more unislamic than Islamic as Pagan Meccans prohibited Prophet Muhammad and the earliest Muslims from propagating Islam on account of the fact that their faith was correct and the Muslims were betraying their ancestors by practising a different faith.

Every person holds his faith to be true, therefore, it is extremely irresponsible to pass the kind of comments which Dr Naik has been passing since a long time. Going by that logic, people like Dr Zakir Naik shouldn’t be allowed to preach in Non-Muslim majority countries. Quiz Dr Naik about this and he says that where does the Bible or the Vedas say that Christianity or Hinduism is the true religion. To convince a fundamentalist like him regarding rights of all religious communities is to expect a tiger to start eating grass.

Dr Naik is far from being a reformer. In fact, his lectures strengthen orthodox dogmas and practices like that of polygamy. Dr Naik’s talks also reinforce the myth that women who dress up covering all their body parts don’t get raped. In his writings, Dr Naik has stated that if a lady is given a choice to choose between marrying a man who already has a wife or become public property then “all those who are modest will opt for the first.” His words are evident of deep misogyny and contempt towards females.

Suspicions can be raised even regarding Dr Naik’s penultimate ability of churning out verses from different scriptures. For instance, his contention that Rig Veda Book 1, Hymn 53, Verse 9 contains a prophecy regarding a battle fought by Prophet Muhammad is utterly false and based on gross distortions. A perusal of the hymn quoted by Dr Naik makes it clear that the hymn quoted is glorifying the bravery of the Vedic God Indra and not Prophet Muhammad. Religious leaders can play a very instrumental role in bringing warring communities together but people of the likes of Dr Zakir Naik are a bit difficult to understand. He may continue to bag peace awards and travel across the globe giving lectures to thousands of people but hypocrisy is a vice which easily gets exposed no matter how hard one tries to conceal it.

(Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this article are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of Agniveer)

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The writer is presently a student of journalism at the University of Delhi and has contributed articles and news pieces to several news websites and blogs including Youth Ki Awaaz: Mouthpiece For The Youth, India Opines , The Viewspaper, NewsYaps, Sportskeeda, The Parallel Post, Centre Right India, GroundReport, LoonWatch, Assyrian International News Agency, Media Khabar, Halabol, Only Kashmir, Free Press Kashmir, Legally India, DU Beat, University Express – An Outline Of Delhi University, Two Circles.net, Muslim Mirror.com, Dehradun Live, Campus Crunch Magazine, India Resists, Votegiri, India Community Digest, New Age Islam , Indian Muslim Observer, IndiPulse.com, Star Live 24, The Forthright and Invade Cafe.

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A) Great Ghazi Kings like Mohammed Bin Qasim who killed several thousand Hindu men in Sind and Multan and then captured weeping 100,000 women and children ,made them slaves and send 30,000 of them to Iraq who after doing all these say (In Arabic) “Allah is great; There is no god but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet” five times a day 11) And then another Ghazi king Mahmud who killed ,enslaved 500,000 Hindus of Afghanistan, FATA, Khyberpakhtoonkhwa and Punjab.

B) A Hindu who does not harm any one follow Ahimsa, worship forms of God (or signs of God) Lord Shiva, Lord Vishnu by worshipping the idols of pristine temples

c) Allah is the best judge. Allah knows the Best

3. Select from below the TRUE statement?

A) Smart Musa Nabi who can distinguish the sentence in Arabic he heard to be from Allah and understand that it is not made by some one using loud speaker. Btw he saw a bush fire which is sign from Allah ???

B) Not so smart Moses of Christians and Jews, who will doubt whether the sentence (in Hebrew/Aramaic/Canaanite/ancient Egyptian), is from Yahweh or some one using loudspeaker; so Yahweh appeared as a boy (like in movie “Exodus Gods and kings”) or rather made Moses saw a boy’s image speaking

C) God appears as Lord Shiva, Godess Durga to dumb Hindu bhaktas

4). which of below is most logical?

A) Soul has birth (DOB?) and death B) Soul has no birth or death C) Soul has no birth (ie soul is never created) but has death (it will be destroyed) D) Soul has birth (ie soul is created by Allah) but has no death…

For example, Aurangzeb killed 5 million in 20 years. Bahmani Sultans had an agend to kill 100000 every year for 250 years only is South India. that itself makes 25 millions. And murdering civilians was going on throught the country simultaneously. Bahamni Sultans were only tip of the iceberg. Babur killed 1 million in 3 years. Even emperor Akbar killed 2 millions during initial decades of his rule, though he softened a bit later. Timur Lang [Tamerlane] killed 1 million in 1 month. Qasim killed 2 million people. Ghazni Mohammed and Gauri Mohammed together killed nearly 30 million during their added total of 30 invasions. Tipu Sultan in south killed 10 million. In Bengal Muslims killed nearly 30 millions. Regular incursions from the Arabs, Iranians, etc killed nearly 50 millions. Nadir Shah killed 100000 civilians in one day. The list is endless………. Muslim rascals kept on killing people. But people are very strongly bound to their original religion, so could not completely annihilate them. Muslim beasts started coming here nearly 1200 years back. Divide 600 millions by 1200 or 1/2 millions per year. That means Muslim killed 500,000 people per year. It is a reasonable estimate. If you want recent proof: In Bangladesh, Pakistan’s Muslim-soldiers killed 3 million Hindus in one year in 1971. The total Bangladesh population in 1971 was 60 millions [50 million Muslims and 10 million Hindus.] Out of 10 million Hindus, Muslims killed 3 million. This is done in the recent times in spite of so much of media exposure, international observation, and monitoring. Then you can easily understand how many millions of Hindus, Muslims would have killed between 800 and 1800 AD. In 1947, Muslims were 9% in India, Hindus were 10% in Pakistan and 25% in Bangladesh. But in 2008, Muslims are 18% in India, Hindus are 1% in Pakistan and 10% in Bangladesh. I KNOW MUSLIMS WILL STILL SHAMELESSLY ARGUE THAT ISLAM IS A PEACEFUL RELIGION.

Whatever Sam has said, it is based on the facts. His purpose is not to create drift but tell the truth. In which corner of the earth you are living that you are still in denial and want to ignore the true facts. If you could not find the answers of those claims, then you are deviating the topic. May be you are a muslim and covered yourself with hindu name or pseudo secular who always wants to pat islam no matter how brutal and violent that can be.

Everyday, you hear the news that terrorists are blowing up, killing, destroying, beheading etc., worldwide on a daily basis. All of these terrorists strongly adhere to Islam and they are following whatever is written in their book – Quran. So it is proven fact throughout the world that Islam is a violent religion that glorifies death. History is the biggest proof of this.

The biggest holocaust happened in India. Majority of Hindus are highly divided and coward by nature, they do not even talk about the atrocities done by muslims on their ancestors. Muslims killed over 600 million people in India. Muslim invaders appeared in India in the 8th century. Killing, raping, looting, kidnapping, etc were the common habits of Muslims although their rule. They devastated and brutalized India for 1200 long years. Assume they killed half a million people every year or 500,000 people a year. Then multiply that number by 1200. It becomes 600 millions. Muslims killing 500,000 people a year is quite a reasonable estimate [the real figure can be even higher].

Don’t try to act smart You are just creating drift This website is to remove misconceptions and follow peace Don’t include in dirty tricks of splashing dirt on other religions If you are good follow it why the hell you are pointing Muslims You mad spoil bratt

24. Muslims always bring CONFLICT because they DEMAND to impose their pseudo-religious political system known as Islam…”Live and let live”?—forget about it.

25. Islam is not a religion but a primitive anachronistic political system unworthy of the 21st century—unless it re-professes a LOVING GOD.

26. Muslims should en masse convert to the Catholicism of Mohammed when he was in Mecca I–monotheist, monogamous, pacifist, tolerant of all differences, allowing children to have childhood, not selling of women or children, marriage between one man and one woman, supporting womanhood without suppression or raping, prohibiting oppressive slavery, allowing criticism and open debate, allowing conversion to other religions, not murdering those who disagree, and heaven was not a whorehouse. No Muslim can be trusted who does not, at least, take an oath to follow permanently Mohammed of Mecca I rather than the subhuman Islam of Mecca II. But even then one must be cautious.

27. For a more complete understanding of Islam, check out “The True History of Islam, Mohammed and the Koran” and “The Cult of Islam.” The trouble is, if you tell Muslims their real history, they want to kill you, not because you offend “God” but because you offend their gods–Mohammed and the Koran. They do not care about a Loving God. They just worship the power-mad gods: Mohammed and the Koran–and their evil imam “tyrant” leader threatening them.

28. Muslims move to Western countries but bring their country with them establishing “no-go-zones” for Westerners. One wonders why they left their “wonderful” country and why they just do not return to it. They cannot be assimilated because that means abandonment of Islam and death if they did. They should not be allowed to bring what they were fleeing from.

17. Muslims hate all unlike Islam, cogently proving that most hate is from denied envy.

18. Muslims cannot rebut thoughtful criticism which is why any criticism is called blasphemy, so those who criticize or want to leave Islam can be exterminated. Thus Muslims are fear-filled closeted secret Islamophobes unless they are Koraniacs.

19. Muslims preach and promote themselves as Mohammed did: The perfect epitome of Mohammed is his claim to have “cut the moon in half” in order to grotesquely manipulate ignorant people. To know all Mohammed is to know evil…his sanctification by Muslims is genetic madness professing murderous bigotry.

20. Muslims cannot be trusted – They will profoundly deny everything objectionable about Islam and themselves until in power – and then you are going to be in for it unless you grovel like they do with your forehead in the dirt. And they would if they could kill those Muslims who refuse to be or quit being Koraniacs.

21. Islam prohibits alcohol AS IT MUST, because alcohol will disinhibit resulting in a furious release -of bitter hatred by Muslims for their deformed unfree lives and their masters, or -an outrageous acting out of all violence in Islam. POWER is the only intoxicant (and “joy”) allowed by Islam. Alcohol use will prove Islamic self-hatred.

22. Muslims cannot be regularly believed– if they are nice – take it – but watch your back, because the Koran requires that Muslims live and kill today like they did in the 7th century, which is absolute insanity—probably genetically inbred, i.e., natural selection gone wacko by an incapacity to enter into a new period of history of a Loving God.

23. Muslims only care about themselves and their metaphors for living are really TACTICS to achieve power and power alone. They know it…you know it now too.

11. Islam fails if the Koran or Mohammed fail criticism…which is why Muslims cannot allow any criticism and prohibit any open clarifications of the Koran or Mohammed. The criticisms cannot be rebutted so Muslims just respond by shouting about past victimizations–which pale compared to the viciousness of Islam on infidels typical of the Islamic State of today.

12. The Koran teaches to strategize by feigned friendship and virtuous conduct until in power. Followers of the Koran are instructed to “fake it” until in control and then to be intolerant, tax unfairly, enslave or kill all who do not believe as required.

13. Muslims often arrange marriages for children, and first cousin marriages are a tradition. This inbreeding and consanguinity result in a higher incidence of genetic abnormalities affecting intelligence, sanity, and health (Google psychologist “Nicolai Sennels”), which is probably why Muslims are Koraniacs and are easily led, robot-like, to unfreedom and violence. (70% of Pakistanis and 40% of Turks are inbred.)

14. Children are generally raised without fun, games, sports and poisoned by all emphasis on obtaining zombie like power through the Koran by any means possible.

15. Muslims are victimhood experts (Westernophobics!) eagerly spouting all the misdeeds that have been done against Islam but conveniently denying and censoring all of the monstrous atrocities done by Islam from abduction of children (the “boy tax”—look up “devshirme” and “Janissary”) to the murder of Christians and others who disagree, any time, all the time, whenever possible and thought necessary.

16. Muslims fabricate and falsely claim to have created all sorts of advances in civilization – which is blatant historical fraud because almost all alleged contributions from Islam can be traced to their Christian slaves who understood languages such as Greek and Latin while the Muslim enslavers didn’t know or believe anything but the Koran.

6. Islam is empty with almost absolute poverty and distortion of love, empathy, sympathy, life, sacrifice, virtue, humanity, peace, freedom, death, Truth, Oneness, Good and Beauty as commonly understood. The Transcendentals and all spiritual words are DEFINED DIFFERENTLY by the Koran so these words are demons instead of angels as in Western Civilization. This fools many into thinking that Muslims agree when they use these words, but they are speaking a different language. When Mohammed spoke of the Gospels, he did not have the words to be accurate; he could not read himself, so he never really had the ability to present genuine Spirituality.

7. Muslims who adore the Koran believe in POWER, any way and every way: words secretly defined differently, lying, cheating, stealing, enslaving, murdering, child sex, women clothed in sacks being suppressed and on all fours most of the time except when being told to suckle Mohammed or other demanding Islamic men. Muslims are Koraniacs or, for their own safety, must pretend to be.

8. POWER is the real commerce, the only respectability, the only status, the only eros in Islam. The most important knowledge any Muslim must have is “to know your master (‘tyrant’ really)!” followed by absolute deference.

9. POWER is the only spectator sport in Islam—a theatre of chanting screaming war-whoops from zombies stomping on people or on their knees digging their foreheads in the dirt. There is no love in Islamic rituals or in Islamic metaphors for life.

10. Muslim scholars use bewildering mountainous word salads (hadiths and their other so-called “scripture”) presented as history and intelligence, but these words really are seductive selfish tendentious manipulations, fabrications, distortions, displacements, rationalizations and obsessions which hide and obfuscate the dehumanizing vicious beliefs, murderous intolerance and oppressing requirements of Islam.

1. Islam is not a religion of the one true God. Without TRANSCENDENTAL LOVE, Islam is a POLITICAL SYSTEM masquerading as a religion…There is no possible “separation of church and state” because the Koran and the Sharia makes them identical for Islam. In this way, Islam is unconstitutional in America. Islam is pure primitive savagery and hardens the heart. Civilized cultures must offer Christianity at some minimum level or the culture is a disaster.

2. Muslims are really idolators because they operationally ADORE a book (the Koran) and their founder, Mohammed—they are Koranaholics and Mohammedaholics.

3. Mohammed was converted from paganism by Jews and Christians and he was essentially a Christian convert while in Mecca the first time (Mecca I) because there he was monogamous, a pacificist and certainly a Catholic mass attending monotheist. But after he left Mecca I, he contorted what he learned from Christianity into his own style of political paganism camouflaged as a monotheism of sorts–or those power-mad “emperors” taking his place kidnapped and deformed the real Catholic Mohammed of Mecca I.

4. Muslims do not believe in LOVE–The over 6000 verses Koran mentions the word “love” about 80 times, and then, it is always in reference to what Allah loves or loves not. “Love” pertaining to human relationships and to relationships with a Loving God does not exist in Islam. Fearing LOVE is the worst of Muslim Westernophobia. The Koran is a public health hazard which should not be translated from Arabic–it creates murderers. There is no love in Islam. As now used, the Koran is a hate creating document to be prohibited.

1. God in islam lives in jannat ;sits in a throne above 7 heavens. while Hindus believe God is present everywhere omnipresent both microcosm and macrocosm. God is beyond space time

Having said this, Vedanta also says universe is illusion. soul of humans (jiva) =soul of paramatma (soul of Vishnu,Durga or shiva) = ParaBrahmam(GOD). it is similar to holy spirit concept in X’tianity

so idols have Dugra,Vishnu,Shiva not Brahmam…Brahmam is everywhere ; not just in idols.

Using maya(illusion) or prakriti (nature) God assumes many forms.

Now you cannot see Allah per islam,but you can talk to him. Allah spake with Moses (Musanabi) LOL

Mere lip service is enough in islam..just says Allah I thank you for giving me life… Say Allah I worship thee creater of worlds. No need to concentrate on GOD. you can’t concentrate on Brahmam. I mean unrealized souls like us …So you need to worship Shiva, Vishnu, Durga

Now islam says soul is born when you are born (say april 3 2001) but soul will not die and stays in hell forever (for hindus only LOL)

my question is if there is birth then there is death….think through….. our soul has no death or birth.

Dear Raj First of all I advice you to respect all religion and their prophets.second get deep knowledge about our prophet Muhammad swlm. Read about his life then you will understand his life is example for all human being. I also can use bad vulgar language about your gods.but my religion does not teach me that. Before you say something to any prophet first do proper research.

was prophet mohammad was really a pedophile? there are many website on google claiming that he had sex with 9 year old ayesha. is that truth? or it is a conspiracy of right wing extreamist like rss,vhp..? plz answer me.

Dear Raj First of all I advice you to respect all religion and their prophets.second get deep knowledge about our prophet Muhammad swlm. Read about his life then you will understand his life is example for all human being. I also can use bad vulgar language about your gods.but my religion does not teach me that. Before you say something to any prophet first do proper research.

1. God in islam lives in jannat ;sits in a throne above 7 heavens. while Hindus believe God is present everywhere omnipresent both microcosm and macrocosm. God is beyond space time

Having said this, Vedanta also says universe is illusion. soul of humans (jiva) =soul of paramatma (soul of Vishnu,Durga or shiva) = ParaBrahmam(GOD). it is similar to holy spirit concept in X’tianity

so idols have Dugra,Vishnu,Shiva not Brahmam…Brahmam is everywhere ; not just in idols.

Using maya(illusion) or prakriti (nature) God assumes many forms.

Now you cannot see Allah per islam,but you can talk to him. Allah spake with Moses (Musanabi) LOL

Mere lip service is enough in islam..just says Allah I thank you for giving me life… Say Allah I worship thee creater of worlds. No need to concentrate on GOD. you can’t concentrate on Brahmam. I mean unrealized souls like us …So you need to worship Shiva, Vishnu, Durga

Now islam says soul is born when you are born (say april 3 2001) but soul will not die and stays in hell forever (for hindus only LOL)

my question is if there is birth then there is death….think through….. our soul has no death or birth.

Narayan: Why does Allah shower the rehmat only on the roof of kaaba. Isn’t Allah all pervading and wants people to be benefitted with his rehmat. This doesn’t seem fair.

Shafi : Where did you find this Mr. Narayan??

Narayan: Any physical material in any shape or idol being revered/worshipped in whatever form comes into idol worshipping and physical material doesn’t have anything to give us. Only Allah is worth the worship, none and nothing else.

Shafi: Muslims pray inside the black color clothed cuboidal room called kaaba.and yes you are right in saying Only Allah is worth the worship, none and nothing else.

Narayan: Just because Mohammad sahab has touched a stone, what greatness did the stone achieve. There is no need that it needs kissed and you fairly agree that there is no other reason, which is good.

Shafi: The prophet sometimes touched the stone with a wooden stick. Its just a practice.

Narayan: Iam sure you know very well that cow’s urine has got lot of medicinal uses unlike human saliva to others.

Shafi: not only cow urine, but Bull, camel, buffalo & goat’s urine has also medicinal value according to Islam.

Nice article,Mr Khan….it allows the ignorant (like Mr Naik) to reflect on his limited knowledge and to understand that ultimately it is compassion and love that conquers all…I accepted Hinduism a long time ago and I find myself blissful within and content on the outside….try it Mr Naik,return to the original faith-all’s forgiven…shame,poor guy….

Agreed, but with a caveat. Sometimes we have to address some ancillary things before getting to the root of things.

Here is also what happened iqbal started talking about the Srimad Bhagvad Gita and said this: “Have u read MAHABHARATA ,In the Srimad Bhagavatam 1.7.36,”

I have a copy of the Srimand Bhagvad Gita translated by Ravi Prakash Arya and no where, I mean no where is there verse 1.7.36. Even it was a typo and say he accidentally put a dot between 1 and 7 there is no verse 36 in chapter 17 or in chapter 7. And in chapter 1 verse 36 does not say anything remote to what he quoted. So he tried to hide behind his Hindi and make fun of me because I don’t know Hindi.

Basically I called him out on his lie. And now he just wants to make fun of me for not knowing Hindi. Classic play by guys like him.

KRISHNA RAO UR REALLY RACIST AND STUPID U DONT KNOW KRISHNA IS NAME IF U WRITE IN GOOGLW KRINSHNARAO IT WILL SHOW U KRISHNA SPACE RAO…………..I DONT KNOW HOW TO WRITE UR NAME AND DEBATING ON ISLAM………. U DONT KNOW HINDI HOW U WILL FOLLOW SANATHAN DHARM ,SINCE ALL VEDS ARE ORIGINALLY IN SANSKRIT,WITHOUT HINDI HOW U BECOME HINDU…… INDIAN…………..LOL FIRST LEARN HINDI THEN LEARN SANATHAN DHARM THEN COME TO DEBATE……OR FIRST OF THERE IS NO DIFFRENCE IN NASTIK & COMMUNIST… DONT DO DRAMA ……….DO UR MEDITATION IF THERE IS ANY AASAN FOR BRAIN DO IT FIRST ITS VERY URGENT REQUIREMENT FOR U……………………KRISHNARAO……..KRISHNA RAO ITS CORRECT………..

Iq bal, your name comes up weird on any browser, so if you want to be a wimp and blame it on some technology instead of using a little bit more effort than expect to be called qball. Get up off your behind fool.

And with the racist thing, nice try. Try and be a little original next time. I made it clear you are racist because you saidI don’t know Hindi. In any case you don’t know that the South Indian languages are closer to Sanskrit. Telugu is 82% similiar and Tamil is 70% similiar. So get your facts straight before writing here. If anything you should be asking me to learn Sanskrit not Hindi. And we have material translated in Hindi, Telugu, Tamil, and English. Since we share english let us use that. Stop being such a racist.

1. Actually you strengthen my point. Because even inside the cube you guys bow to the black stone. I’ve seen it. Google it. So it doesn’t matter if you are outside or inside, you still bow to the black stone. So you try and say some how bowing to the black rock inside of the cube makes it any different. It isn’t. Lol. Still idol worship.

2. Now you have added discrimination. If some angel chooses to go to one person and not others, it is discrimination. Yoga doesn’t discriminate. The it should be reproducible and the prophet story is mythology. Yoga is reproducible, science.

3. There is no such thing as the word of God. You just experience God. Any language by nature is imperfect that is why you must experience God.

4. My point wasn’t that zombies exist. Lol. It was that you guys behave like a zombie when you walk around stones. It is called an analogy.

UR INDIAN OR WHAT????????????????????????? OR MY NAME IS IQBAL NOT QBAAL. I THINK UR NOT ACCEPTING TRUTH ,BCOZ OF THAT UR DESTROYING MY NAME……… IF U DONT KNOW HINDI ……SO ITS SHAME ON U……BY RELIGION UR SANATHAN……& DONT KNOW HINGLISH………..

My name is Krishnarao not Krishna. It was you who screwed up my name. Next not all Indians speak Hindi or did you forget that a massive part of India is South India. Sounds to me like you are a racist against south Indians.

1)Why does Allah shower the rehmat only on the roof of kaaba. Isn’t Allah all pervading and wants people to be benefitted with his rehmat. This doesn’t seem fair.

2)Any physical material in any shape or idol being revered/worshipped in whatever form comes into idol worshipping and physical material doesn’t have anything to give us. Only Allah is worth the worship, none and nothing else.

Just because Mohammad sahab has touched a stone, what greatness did the stone achieve. There is no need that it needs kissed and you fairly agree that there is no other reason, which is good.

Iam sure you know very well that cow’s urine has got lot of medicinal uses unlike human saliva to others.

What racist post you put up. As I said before, not all Indians speak Hindi. Large part of India is South Indian. You clearly are a racist fool.

I actually think you are trying to hide behind your Hindi because you know what I’m saying is true. You know that kiss and walking around a black stone is idol worship and you just made a bunch of excuses for it.

We believe in meditation on the one infinite God. You believe in kissing black stones.

And next time get my name right if you want others to get your name right.

Krishna Rao .. you should name yourself getting it wrong Rao…….No human receives angels ..I don’t know where you found this ….might be your weak brain conceives such things.. It is they reveal themselves by will of the almighty ….

No, you muslims have the worst of idol worship because you deny you are worshiping idols when you do. Not only that, you do the worst kind of worship when you kiss/suck on/make out with a black stone that looks like a women’s private parts. It is clear that it is a hold over from the pre-islamic days and you guys still hold to such ridiculous rituals. The black stone was probably a fertility goddess. And that is what you pray to a fertility goddess because that is what it was.

Even muslims are starting to realize that the black stone and mecca is one of many things that is serious threat the legitimacy of islam. When you muslims cry not to stop idol worship yet you insist on bowing and walking around and kissing and making out and sucking on a black stone it shows your hypocrisy. I have communicated with muslims and ex-muslims and they agree with me that mecca and the black stone is a major problem in islam. They agree that muslims are doing the complete opposite from their message when they bow to black stones and walk around it and kiss/make out with it/suck it. The muslim even thinks it is the devil (Which I don’t believe in) but a muslim thinks it is the devil that put that in islam and tricked muslims. He believe muslims are sinner when you bow to a black stone. You commit the ultimate sin sherk.

Sorry homie, you can keep attacking me personally, but that just shows you are becoming desperate. It just shows you can’t actually address the issue. You know you are scared of the this truth because it will break the utter foundation of how you pray. It puts an end to a lot of what you believe in. It is Earth shattering for you. And you cannot handle it. So you resorted to personal attacks. Every personal attack you do on me just shows you fear the truth that much more. Keep going idol worshiper. Show your true colors.

So now you put mohammed is some superman. LOL. Mohammed claimed he received an angel or did you forget your own religion. LOL. Sorry homie there is no such thing as a superman, prophet, x-man, spiderman, incarnation, son of god, godman, half god half man, or any of that nonsense. You have been reading to many comic books to believe in such nonsense. LMAF.

The person with the highest EGO is the person who denies the blatant act they are doing, even though in the back of their head they know what they are doing. That persons is shafi the great denier. It is your EGO and Pride that prevents you from seeing the utter idol worship of islam. Everyone sees it but you like many other muslims have put the blinders of faith on. Until you come to the truth that islam is not following the path to God when you bow to rocks, you can never reach God. In order to do that, you must let go of your EGO and pride.

The difference between muslims (idol worshipers) and Hindus that do worship idols is at least those Hindus admit what they are doing. They admit they are idol worshipers, but find nothing wrong with it. But you guys do idol worship and claim it isn’t. That is the purest form of a liar. That is what muslims are doing, and according to the path of Yoga we should not deny such facts. It is because of Yoga I have been able to see everything clearly. And it bowing to a black stone, walking around it like some zombie, and making out with the stone is the purest for of idol worship. You can deny deny deny all you want, but you can’t run away from the truth that islam = idol worshiping.

Uncle, in your head you are the only person who is right on earth and rest are all wrong… that’s all I want to say. People who read all the comments above will decide the winner…. Including this one …. The Kaaba is not a single black stone its made of thousands of stones/ bricks … The corner black stone is intrinsically white because of sins of people like you it has turned black..

Here is what happened. You got on here and decided to insult us. You used your tired old trick on us, you guys are idol worshipers, like the one trick pony you are. you realized very quickly that we do not believe in idol worshiping. So you had nothing, but it was clearly pointed to you, your religion is the true idol worshiping religion. So you made excuses:

1. You tried to come up with a fancy name. We said you spin around your black stone idol. You said it isn’t spinning, it is Circumbalation. You thought we would get lost in the weeds of the meaning and not realize it is the same thing. We didn’t fall for your vocabulary trick. We still pointed out it was idol worship. Doesn’t matter what you call it.

2. You now say it isn’t idol worship because the black stone is made of many many tiny stones. Again hoping we will ignore the fact that you still are bowing to those many many stones. All you have done is just strengthen the point that you are now using many many stone or many many idols instead of one big one. Or the accretion of those many small stones. What’s the difference, still idols in your worship.

3. You tried to throw some mythological story that the stones isn’t black it is clear or white, but turned black because of sin. Not only did you show you believe in mythology, but you tried to hide your idol worship behind a mythological story. Hoping we would forget that you still bow to a rock, but instead you showed you not only believe in idol worship but mythology as well.

4. You resorted to ad hominem attacks. So now you hope if you can personally make fun of me, maybe I would ignore the very fact that you are an idol worshiper.

Krishna you have erotica in your mind like rest of the Hindus….. There is no vagina like parvatis vagina as in shiv linga in black stone of Kaaba… The stone was shattered when yazeed attacked Kaaba… Hence a metal casing is put around it to hold the stone together ….. I have a doubt in mind where you born out of niyog and after how many attempts…. Further your mind is unclean not the stone.

Typical muslim argument style, once they know they have been defeated in an argument, they move to ad hominem attacks. Seriously fool, we don’t believe in any idols, which we made very clear, you need to go to a idol worshiping website if you want to talk to people who believe in that. Since you can’t actually debate us on what we believe, you now have resorted to try and attach us to things we do not believe.

But in your case you actually do bow down, walk around, and suck/make out/kiss a black stone that many many others have kissed with their germs. When I point that very simple fact, you instead use ad hominem attacks instead of addressing something that is so clearly idol worshiping.

I heard all the excuses for your black rock. I heard them all. Because of a map or unity or some other nonesense. I have dispelled everyone of those excuses. A person who truly is against idol worship wouldn’t even need some ridiculous stone. They would know all we need is God.

You don’t need some fancy beads, pictures, rocks, statues, direction, special robes, sticks, required geographic locations, prophets, son of god, x-man, incarnation, godman, superman, part man part god or any of that nonsense. Just need yourself and God and that is it. And it is soooooooooo simple, which is meditation. But fools like you are hypocrites and try to defend your complex rituals and garbage.

I know you don’t like hearing it, but islam is an idol worshiping religion and the cure to it is the true path of Yoga. That simple. Just need meditation on the ONE INFINITE GOD THAT IS EVERYWHERE.

As I said before you have resorted to ad hominem attacks because you can’t stand that fact that you are following idol worship. As I said before, when you bow to rocks, walk around rocks, and kiss rocks (very unhygienic when you have many many people kiss it, have their saliva on there that many many other people put on there. You should go kiss those millions of people on the lips, that is basically what you are doing when you kiss that rock) it is idol worship.

You can’t stand the fact that you are being called your hypocrisy. Islam is idol worshiping. And only Yoga which asks to meditate on the One God, with no rocks or stones is not idol worship.

Hadfield also expressed the belief that a permanent moon base would involve contributions from China and India. Both nations have seen their space program make strides this year, with China’s first lunar rover making a successful soft landing over the weekend and Beijing’s government expressing their intent to launch the first manned lunar missions since NASA’s Apollo program in the 1960s and 1970s.

This shows, in the future humans will be in the millions in space. Probably in the next 50 to 100 years. That will be in our life time. Granted if their isn’t some massive war. Either way, after such a conflict and there is peace, humans would start going back into space.

So what does this have to do with anything here. Simple, muslims have a perplexing problem when they are in space. They defend the S**T out of bowing to the black rock (idol worship) 5 times a day. But as we travel into space, They won’t know what direction to pray.

Let’s take a look at orbiting the Earth. The international space station orbits the earth 16 times per day. That means there are 16 days and nights in a 24 hour period. Putting aside the shear number of times they would have to pray, the bigger problem is what direction to pray to in a zero gravity environment. Do you strap yourself down so you point your head down to the earth. LOL. seriously it is a joke. and useless way to pray.

With meditation you don’t have that problem. You don’t need some direction to pray to. Even when we colonize other planets. We don’t need to look to Earth to pray towards. It is a total joke to pray to some object in some direction.

Lol….. its a joke man…. it is just a prediction….. there is no 100% gurante about that…. we actually cannot trust on predictions bcoz it was predicted by scientists that the world will end in DEC 2012…. Lol………wake up krishna we are in 2014 now as per your belief in prediction we would have been destroyed before 2 years……….. So it cannot be belived for sure…. but I understood one thing that you dnt worship idol but your God and religion is yoga……… Lol……… and i can imagine how you will do meditation over there just hang in air…Lolllllllll…. oh my god….. but you dont have to worry about us in regaring direction….for prayer Lollll…..

“wake up krishna we are in 2014 now as per your belief in prediction we would have been destroyed before 2 years”

– When did I say that. Quote the line and time stamp when I said such nonsense. You are now trying to put fake stuff on me.

Next you are trying to make a joke of humans moving to space because you know muslims have no and I mean now means to keep praying to mecca when people leave earth. Your laughter is actually disguising your fear of what I said. You know I made an important point. Which is that the black stone can’t even be used anymore with the current structure of your prayer. LOL. You know it’s an idol because when you remove certain conditions like living on Earth, it becomes useless.

And actually, according to most scientists, in the field, there is a strong movement to colonize the Moon. It the next 30 years we should expect our first colony. and in the next 70 years we should expect thousands and maybe millions on the moon. There is already heavy research in the field and we should expect this very very soon. This is expected because there are lots of resources on the moon. And we can expect humans to move their for resource development at first later to just live there.

In the next 30 years, it is also expected that humanity will increase to over 12 billion people (currently it is 7 billion). With that high of a dense population we will need to get resources from non-Earth sources. The closest source would be the Moon. With recent studies of the moon from Indian, Russia, China, and Europe, we found large amounts of resources there. Which makes the moon an perfect place to start mining. I guess muslims won’t get these resource. LOL. Having trouble praying. LOL. LMAF.

Krishnarao you want temples in Saudi Arabia.. And you say you are not an idol worshipper … Then what is the need for temples…….? Clearly you need your head to be examined.. You spoke to some ignorant Muslim regarding kaaba…immediately above comment…

Do you even know what kind of temple a Yogic person wants. I want a circular layout temple where there isn’t a single idol in the temple where people meditate inside and say the Gayatri Mantra:

Dear God, we MEDITATE to you the omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent one! The remover of all sin and ignorance; May you enlighten our intellect. (Yajur Veda 3:35)

Next just because I don’t believe in idol worship, I still believe in the right of an individual to practice and believe as they wish. That means, I believe even Hindus that do worship idols have their freedom because God asks us to not force them. And that freedom should be applied anywhere in the world including Saudi arabia. You might be fine forcing people to do as you wish, but I don’t. I believe in the equality of people that means allowing Hindus (non-idol worshipers and idol worshipers), Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains, Jews, and Christians to have 100% equality and right to practice their religion in their place of worship in Saudi Arabia. What you have proven to me is you are an extremist Taliban warrior. It is extremists like you is who I would stand up against mentally and physically.

No wonder why it was extremists like you who destroyed the ancient university Nalanda (the largest university and library in the world).

Krishna Rao I believe Muslims have the best practice of yoga when they perform compulsory prayers…. yes you are right in one thing yoga and The God….. Muslims have the best Yoga and you have come close to Muslims way of worshiping The God.

Actually muslims are moving away from Yoga. The very fact that you must bow to a black stone takes you away from God. The true practice of Yoga removes such objects from practice because it lowers your state of consciousness. Yoga wants us to get to higher states of consciousness.

There is a very good story of RamaKrishna when he was studying Yoga (Most people don’t even know this story). He used to worship Kali and had trouble reaching the higher states of consciousness while worshiping Kali. And finally his Yoga teacher told him you can’t move forward mentally as long as you worship that idol. You must mentally break the idol so you can remove such practices and move forward. That is the same with muslims, you must break the blackstone and never use it again. That is the only way you can reach the highest state of consciousness. The black stone is your block from God.

Also islam is a history centric religion. Yoga is against such practices. It is history centric because it believes in a prophet.

Prophet = is someone who is put on earth during a specific time and period and what that prophet experiences cannot be reproduced. (totally against Yogic practice).

Yoga/Rishi = A person who reached enlightenment through Yoga, and what they did can be reproduced. And they teach others how to do what they did, like using the tool of Yoga to reproduce that same experience.

Yoga/Rishi is scientific, while prophethood is not. A true Yoga practitioner, if there was one there, would have asked mohammed show me how you received the angel so we can reproduce what you did. If mohammed couldn’t show his technique, he was a liar.

Don’t compare yoga to your system of belief….they are light years apart…. YOGA seeks to realize one’s true Self….your beliefs are different,so different that Muslim countries (the fanatical ones) are banning yoga practice amongst Muslims…so much for free will….

Excellent points. And there is no such thing as best or worst of Yoga. There is just Yoga. Like there isn’t upside down yoga or right side up yoga or red yoga or white yoga or superman yoga or other nonsense. Seriously it is one of the dumbest things I hear when he said the best of Yoga. No such thing. It is just Yoga.

” in general hindus spin in all the temples around idols. but muslim spins 7 times only in KAABA not in anyotr mosque and its not that we are spinning around rock and it is called tawaf. it is a procedure of Hajj.study the procedure if u want to understand in detail. but we dnt tat in any local mosque.”

– Actually not all Hindus spin around anything like us. But that is besides the point. Just because you call it a fancy name does not change it from being idol worship. So you just have a very very specific form of idol worship. So what it doesn’t change the fact that you still do it. What’s the difference if you spin around an idol only during the hajj or if you do it everyday it is still idol worship and must be stopped.

Now who is a choir of argument here???? me or you???? you will be the first man to say that muslims do idol worship….. well i as i said this argument will never come to end…. when you say mecca is a name of worship… and you call Kaaba as a rock then i can guess how much knowledge you have about Islam… its a waste of time for me to exchange a conversation with a man like you…i would suggest you to read the history of kaaba and get back to me then i will find my reply to you is useful……… you just go out and ask people in general who does idol worship i bet you… the answer you will get is hindus and chritisns… and only people lke you will say muslims… end of the day you will get the answers Hindus in majority….

well…. Thanks for all your reply…. before commenting further i would geniuenly request you to first read about the basics of Islam and hajj etc… then you comment…. i have more to points to quote from vedas and Quran to prove that which book speaks more truth even scientifically we can prove. so first do basic research then get some wisdom and revert back.

The thing you or Sara don’t get is that Islam is an idol worshipping religion. It just worships idols in a very very specific way. I know it isn’t the same way as other groups but Muslims have their own specific way of worshiping idols. For example the way the Christian worships an idol is very specific to Jesus as with Muslims it is specific to a black stone. The true path of Yoga actually asked humans not even to bow to rocks in while you pray. The very fact that you need that rock in your prayer is idol worship. That is why meditation is superior.

Like I said every group has their specific way of worshipping an idol.. And muslims have their own rules and laws but it is idol worship. Ask a Christian and they will tell you they aren’t worshipping idols either. But you two are the same. There shoul be just you and God. Not some inbetween black stone or person any of that nonsense. That is why Yoga is the path to God. We don’t need all these Objects in our worship or direction or any of that junk. Just need you and God. Very very simple.

And I have communicated with a muslim that said praying towards the black stone is idol worship and son. He said it was very clear it is an holdover from the preislamic days of Mecca. He agreed meditation is the true path. So even your own boys are realizing that the black stone needs to be smashed so muslims can free themselves from such nonsense black stone worship and even worse make out sessions with it.

Sara doesn’t seem to get it. Age wants to talk about idol worship with us but she is doing it in the WRONG place. We do not worship idols here.

But according to the true practice of Yoga Sara is an idol worshiper. Yes the very fact that you have to bow to a black stone is idol worship. According to us that leads you away from God. You also demonize idols when you through rocks at a pillar. We don’t believe in idol worship or idol demonization. Both practices lead you away from God.

Also having a prophet is evil and leads you away from God. All are forms of attachment.

In the Srimad Bhagavatam 1.7.36, Krishna reminds Arjuna: “A person who knows the principles of religion does not kill an enemy who is careless, intoxicated, insane, asleep, afraid or devoid of his chariot”, thereby highlighting Ashwatthama’s heinous crime. But during the Mahabharata war Krishna Himself advises Arjuna to kill Karna who was devoid of his chariot and not resisting.

its a great job……… during the war between Richard I of England (king loin heart) & khalid bin walid king lost his horse at that time khalid stop the war & provide the horse to king ,bcoz he told king its shame for us the king is fight without horse & i m on horse………. that is grt job bro……..

Not sure what translation you are reading of the Srimad Bhagvad Gita, but there is no 1.7.36. There is chapter 17, but it only has up to 28 verses. I have a copy of the Srimad Bhagvad Gita translated by Ravi Prakash Arya and no were is there 1.7.36. We just have only one dot there is no subverses. Please get a copy by Ravi Prakash Arya. It is one of the best translations out there.

And regards to not firing on someone on a chariot, I’ve seen many muslims throughout history killing people with no weapons. Do you really want to go down this road. let’s just take osama for example and the innocents he killed.

God Almighty states the following in the Quran: “The seven heavens and the earth, and all beings therein, declare His glory: there not a thing but celebrates His praise; and yet ye understand not how they declare His glory…”. (al-Isra, 44) The advancement in science as helped explain that verse. As a matter of fact, including the beings that had been thought to be lifeless, everything was found to consist of atoms. The electrons around the nuclei of the atoms rotate continuously and regularly around the nucleus; it was expressed as declaring the glory of Allah in the Quran. Therefore, to rotate around the Kaaba, which is the symbol of Islam, means to love Islam, to rotate around it like a moth and to attach oneself to Allah.

dear Krishna ….. In short Before kabba we bow down towards betul muqqaddas mosque its now in jerusilm (Israel/pelastine),after instruction given by ALLAH mohammad turn the face towards kabba, we get the direction for pray,we are not bowing in front of kabba.like in yoga if ur bowing infront of any statue for any asana it is not means ur praying that statue,ur busy in meditation ,like we get the direction & doing our namaz(meditation). In front of kabba there is one stone we call it hazre aswad wich is lift by mohammad ,ibrahim during construction.bcoz of only this reason its touched by mohammad & ibrahim we kiss it.not bowing infront of it.

“The seven heavens and the earth, and all beings therein, declare His glory: there not a thing but celebrates His praise; and yet ye understand not how they declare His glory…”. (al-Isra, 44)

does not relate to:

“Therefore, to rotate around the Kaaba, which is the symbol of Islam, means to love Islam, to rotate around it like a moth and to attach oneself to Allah.”

Seriously I can make up random examples from nature and relate it as well. Let’s take religion “oo”. Instead of one cube it has two cubes that are the same size that are 20 feet apart. And the people walk around it represent unity with people and God. Now science has proven that with hydrogen atoms on their outer shell (Only have one shell because they have only one neutron and proton) have one atom. Since we the shell require two, it create an ionic bond to connect two of those atoms together. One of the strongest bonds out there. And those two cubes people walk around represents the unity that is also shown by hydrogen atoms the most abundant atoms in the universe.

Seriously man, you game can be played in a million different ways. I can even use string theory and come up with something as well. You are using utter nonsense to justify idol worship. Every idol worshiper does that.

And to point out, we do not believe in Idol worship. We believe in the true path of Dharam and Yoga. Which eliminates idol worship in all its forms. No statues, pictures, required direction, rocks, stones, walking in circles, sticks, or any of that nonsense. Just need yourself and God. That is it. The moment you introduce anything else it is idol worship. True practice of Yoga wants us to meditate on God. Not walk around some cube and make out with a stone. come on man. Grow up.

Another example: I have heard a christian say the trinity (jesus, holy ghost, God) is like liquid water, water vapor, or frozen water. All water but different states, the same goes for the trinity all God but different forms. All of it is idol worship and ridiculous examples. There is just the need for you and God. Bring anything else it is idol worship.

I used the word spinning as Sara had used it. Thankyou for giving correct word. If Allah had ordered to circumbalate around kaaba, there should be a reason and purpose. Do you know the purpose of it. Whether you circumbalate or spin around the idol, there is no sense or meaning. GOD is all pervading and is only ONE. Why would anybody circumbalate around any physical object. What special is that kaaba or an idol?

They run away from the actual intent of our message by using a fancy word. Our point still stand. Doesn’t matter if you call it spinning or “circumbalate” around the black stone. It is still putting that black stone on some high status. Let’s also not forget that they kiss, make out, with the black stone as well.

I’ve communicated with other muslims about this issue, and some also expressed their concern about the black stone. They are a minority population among muslims, but even they think that the black stone is a hold over from the pre-islam days in that area. People look like zombies when they walk around that cube. It is brain washed BS, plain and clear.

shafi,

It is simple, you can’t walk around telling people you are against idol worship on one hand, and the next second bow down to a rock five or if you are sh’ia three times a day to a black stone in some far away place. It is just being hypocritical. You can’t say you are against idol worship and than “circumbalate”, aka spinning, around a cube with a black stone sticking out of it and say you aren’t an idol worshiper. You are just being hypocritical.

And go look at the black stone, Just look at it. It looks like a giant old used and abused women’s private parts. It is disgusting. Absolutely nasty and sickening to look at. I would probably vomit at the site of it. Just even thinking about the number of people who put their lips on it and than you do sickens me. Talk about the diseases, wow, that thing must be the center of spreading diseases to millions. I wouldn’t be surprised that after you kiss that thing you get hospitalized for some disease that someone put with their spit. Very unclear place to be.

It is mentioned in Surah Baqarah:“We see the turning of thy face (for guidance) to the heavens: now shall We turn thee to a Qiblah that shall please thee. Turn then thy face in the direction of the Sacred Mosque: wherever ye are, turn your faces in that direction.” [Al-Qur’an 2:144]

Islam believes in fostering unity.For instance, if Muslims want to offer Salaah (Prayer), it is possible that some may wish to face north, while some may wish to face south. In order to unite Muslims in their worship of the One True God, Muslims, wherever they may be, are asked to face in only one direction i.e. towards the Kaaba. If some Muslims live towards the west of the Kaaba they face the east. Similarly if they live towards the east of the Kaaba they face the west.Kaaba is the Qibla i.e. the direction Muslims face during their prayers. It is important to note that though Muslims face the Kaaba during prayers, they do not worship the Kaaba. Muslims worship and bow to none but Allah.

Tawaf around Kaaba for indicating one God.When the Muslims go to Masjid-e-Haram in Makkah, they perform tawaf or circumambulation round the Kaaba. This act symbolizes the belief and worship of One God, since, just as every circle has one centre, so also there is only one Allah (swt) worthy of worship.

People stood on Kaaba and gave the adhaan.At the time of the Prophet, people even stood on the Kaaba and gave the ‘adhaan’ or the call to prayer. One may ask those who allege that Muslims worship the Kaaba; which idol worshipper stands on the idol he worships??????? hope now you guys understood…. hope this answer remove your misconceptions.

Good article. Even i have watched his video on terrorism in which he says “If he is terrorizing the biggest terrorist ie America then I am for him.” but again in one of his answer regarding the terrorism he says that no matter who kills whom… even Osama bin laden if he killed muslims, hindu or christian even then it is a sin. and if a muslim kills other innocent muslim or non muslims then it means he has killed the entire humanity this is in Quran.quran is for the world not only for muslim.no scripture or holy books of any religion teach its followers to kill innocent.we are also blessed with wisdom to think over what is right and wrong and we can refer other people who are bit high in degree of wisdom to understand things better.

coming to the point of comparison of Quran, bible and vedas is like he tries to prove the fact of Islam and its concept.and when non muslims ask to prove that what he believes is true then he refers Quran and proves everything scientificaly because now its an era of science and technology.We obey our Quran. we do not associate partners with Allah. when non muslims say that few scientific points are also proved in vedas and they say they follow vedas. and believe in it.but no one so far has ever answered for this question that when idol worship is forbidden as per vedas then why they are disobeying their scriptures. and when people like zakir compare or ask quetions they say that he is trying to deviate them from path, he spreads hatredness, and all that.many say he justifies himself with Quran.then why no non muslim justify themselves by quoting vedas?because they themselves are not following their holy scriptures.many non muslims ask very tricky questions in the assembly of 1000 people.he yet answers.but can any follower of vedas answer why they disobey vedas by doing idol worship, having painting and frames of krishna etc?when it is forbidden in vedas.if you had obeyed your scriptures nobody would hv challenged your faith n vedas.

You said, “but no one so far has ever answered for this question that when idol worship is forbidden as per vedas then why they are disobeying their scriptures.”

I don’t think you have read the articles here. We are Vedic Dharam people and we do not worship idols here. So there are Vedic people that don’t worship idols. We actually think muslms are idol worshipers because they use rocks to bow down to. The true way to worship is not using a rock or bowing to rocks or have a specific direction, but meditating on God. That has been the one true way from the beginning of humanity to now. Even Native Americans talk about meditating the great spirit, God.

We are also against he idea of prophets, son of god, godman, incarnations, and etc. All of them will prevent your consciousness from reaches the highest state, that is connecting to the One God with no form who is infinite and is everywhere.

If someone says they received an angel their duty is to show everyone else how they did it so everyone can reproduce that same experience. That is what our path, Yoga teaches us. It is proof by showing and experiencing. If they claim they are the only person who can experience it, than they are liars and they are not leading you to God, but away from God.

And God is open to all, and God’s full experience is open to all. So no one is gets the exclusive experience of God like a prophet, everyone has 100 percent equal access to that experience if that experience is real. That is why Yoga is the true way, it is open everyone.

This sentence of your’s “We actually think muslms are idol worshipers because they use rocks to bow down to” shows that you have no knowledge about Islam.we muslims never bow to rocks.may be there are vedic people who do not do worship idols but majority of hindus do it.you see temples, church with statues, idols, and i have seen many places where they do puja of snake using kumkum etc. but show me one single mosque in the world which has rock as god to whom we bow there is no such thing you are talking about yoga that leads to meditation even we muslims do meditation but not in the way of yoga but still we get close to god.Prophets are our guidence sent down by Allah for humans and they are sent down to every nation they are countless. we bow down in a specific direction which faces Kaaba our holy mosque in mecca no matter from which part of the world we are.we bow in the direction of kaaba only for namaz but for other meditation no direction is required bcoz we remember Allah sleeping, walking,doing work by reciting verses and other means and that proves our direction is towards the only god..Allah and we all belong to him .as we have not seen god we cannot even imagine how will he look like. people go to mosque for prayer we bow in kaaba direction not to the Kaaba.At home,mosque people prefer to pray near wall so that other person does not walk between to interput so they face wall side but it does not mean that we worship and bow to wall or mosque.In terms of hindus, people take idols of ganesha festival.they go to temple bow to idol and they dress it with jewels and put milk, kumkum water, they take statues of ganesha and roam all over the city and put in well, lake or sea. Regaring the angels sent to prophets.when prophet moses was asked to prove he is a prophet then showd miracles he was called magicain by non believers and when they didnt accept a man as prophet and his miracle do you expect them to belive in angel surley they would claim it as a ghost.

Allah sent down Prophets for guiding humans and also teaching them abut Islam…. During the time of final prophet many were involved in wrong way of worshipping, he sent down prophets to all nations in the world and even we muslims do not know all the prophets.. but we know ew as mentioned in Quran…. the purpose of Allah sending down the prophet was to spread islam and giving message that Allah is the only god. And to worship him alone. because without guru a student cannot acquire proper knowledge. and without rophets even we muslims also would have done the same mistake what hinduism is doing today like idol worship.

Actually Allah does not needed prophets it was we humans who actually needed prophets.Lets consider a big business tycoon does not come to his employee directly and teach him what he has to do.. he has appointed manager, team leaders, branch managers, to teach and train his employee that what he /she has to do. The same way Allah sent his appointed prophets to every nation to teach about Islam and Allah.Prophet was born like you and me… and he sent down his revelation through angel. and later the record of revelations was named as Quran which we have now….

Coming to the point of miracles and angels….. let me tell you even in your vedas about Krishna if you.read the below given site page thoroughly yu can see even hindus claim to have miracles …..

You must first understand the basic difference between the supreme being or God in Hinduism and Islam(Allah).

Kenopanishad 22,23,

22. Brahman cannot be an object of perception because it is partless, attributeless, extremely subtle and infinite.

23. To define Brahman is to deny Brahman.

The ancient vedic rishis who wrote the vedas realized and experienced this Bhraman and only then they wrote the truth about it. You may ask, If Bhraman is beyond perception, then how can you believe these rishis who claim that they realized Bhraman. Here the approach of these rishis is much different from Quran, (which claims something and will ask you to believe it).

** They first tell you what they know as true because they themselves realized and experienced it on the first hand. These realizations were not brought to them through foreign agencies like an angel. ** Then they give you the method they used to realize the supreme Bhraman. ** They ask you to experiment their method. If it works for them, then it must work for everyone else. ** If you do their experiment just like the way they mentioned, you will realize the same truth. These rishis ask you to take their words as true only after experimenting.

Isn’t is familiar? Yes. It is the same thing every scientist asks you to do when they discover something.

so people know that god has no pratima and they cannot see him so they make pratima and they try to see him…..first people imagine god and created idols or paintings ….. and when you ask them they say that we imagine god in looking at these idols…. this what a hindu belives viceversa…. Its some thing like people not worshipping the one who created them but they worship which they created (idol)……

Veda says 1+1=2….. but this hindu scholar says 1+1=11… and people also accept the logic… Quran says 1+1=2 and our prophet says….1+1=2…. so we believe in prophet and other scholars in Islam…. we dont follow blindly what scholars or prophet says but we follow them in light of Quran

God does not take avataar, he has no birth and no death….. and that is why he is supreme eternal thing and that is why he is called as god….

If you wish to argue with us about statues and etc. it is pointless because we Don’t believe in idol worship either. You need to go to the Hindu websites that do and argue with them. You are preaching tip the choir here.

But muslims do worship idols. It is called Mecca. Not only do you bow down to that black rock there but you guys kiss aka make out with the stone there. The very fact that you use that object is idol worship. Yoga teaches us to remove all such worship. We just need ourself and God. The moment you use physical objects in some fancy ritual like you guys do, it is idol worship. That is why we expelled such nonsense.

we dont do idol worship and mecca is not a name of idol,worship or something, its a name of the city in arab.when u said muslim do idol worship and its called mecca,this shows that you have no knowledge about Islam.I have briefed about KAABA in my previous comment.we dont worship kaaba.its our holyplace to visit.we pray namaz there, in which we have a part when we bow if anythig is standing near when bowing does not mean we are worshippng that. unlike like idol worshippers who bow down to idol only, spin around idol in temple and they also keep idols at home to do puja and worship, they put kumkum in bricks, rocks, trees and worship that i hav seen it. But muslims do not do that sort of things.as you assumed that we bow to mecca let me tell u that we dont have kaaba built in our house or in mosque or in any other place to bow like hindu has idols every where,.we have paintings of kaaba but we dont bow to a picture. we love kaaba we touch it, kiss it it is also called as house of Allah. in general hindus spin in all the temples around idols. but muslim spins 7 times only in KAABA not in anyotr mosque and its not that we are spinning around rock and it is called tawaf. it is a procedure of Hajj.study the procedure if u want to understand in detail. but we dnt tat in any local mosque.

And i am also repeating again and again that i am talking about the one who does idol worship.If you are not doing then fine leave it,when you are nt doing it and when my question is not for you then why r u answering?im talking about the majority of people whom we see today in india doing idol worship.if you dont belive and dont do idol worship then tats great.

Am not here to argue with anybody.bcoz there is always a kind of problem between Islam and hinduism. and people like you or me cannot argue or bring this argument to end. you follow what you are following. and i will follow what am following.you are doing yoga well and good.am fine with my way of medaitation in acquiring peace

dear Krishna ….. In short Before kabba we bow down towards betul muqqaddas mosque its now in jerusilm (Israel/pelastine),after instruction given by ALLAH mohammad turn the face towards kabba, we get the direction for pray,we are not bowing in front of kabba.like in yoga if ur bowing infront of any statue for any asana it is not means ur praying that statue,ur busy in meditation ,like we get the direction & doing our namaz(meditation). In front of kabba there is one stone we call it hazre aswad wich is lift by mohammad ,ibrahim during construction.bcoz of only this reason its touched by mohammad & ibrahim we kiss it.not bowing infront of it.

You must first understand the basic difference between the supreme being or God in Hinduism and Islam(Allah).

Kenopanishad 22,23,

22. Brahman cannot be an object of perception because it is partless, attributeless, extremely subtle and infinite.

23. To define Brahman is to deny Brahman.

The ancient vedic rishis who wrote the vedas realized and experienced this Bhraman and only then they wrote the truth about it. You may ask, If Bhraman is beyond perception, then how can you believe these rishis who claim that they realized Bhraman. Here the approach of these rishis is much different from Quran, (which claims something and will ask you to believe it).

** They first tell you what they know as true because they themselves realized and experienced it on the first hand. These realizations were not brought to them through foreign agencies like an angel. ** Then they give you the method they used to realize the supreme Bhraman. ** They ask you to experiment their method. If it works for them, then it must work for everyone else. ** If you do their experiment just like the way they mentioned, you will realize the same truth. These rishis ask you to take their words as true only after experimenting.

Isn’t is familiar? Yes. It is the same thing every scientist asks you to do when they discover something.

It is pointless to argue with the likes of Sarah….there are fundamental differences between Abrahamic and Dharmic religions….the former demands that you submit OR ELSE!!!!!!!! The latter requests that you Realise !!!!!! Realise the TRUTH that you already are….as Swami Vivekananda said: ARISE,AWAKE…….get out of your slumber and wake up…..absolutely beautiful…this is the essence of Hinduism AND Sufism. Sufism is Hinduism but with an Islamic body…..both requests that you REALISE THE SELF…..not submit….(only slaves submit)

34. As Brahman is beyond the reach of the senses and the mind, the aspirant should at first have a comprehensive understanding of Brahman through the study of the Upanishads and the instructions of an illumined preceptor.

35. The aspirant should equip himself with the four means Viveka (discrimination), Vairagya (dispassion), Shat-Sampat (sixfold virtue), Mumukshutva (yearning for liberation) and practise constant meditation. Then alone will he attain knowledge of Brahman. He will realise Brahman like an amalaka fruit in his hand. Then all doubts and delusion will vanish.

Here the rishis gave their method to realize Bhraman. Meditation is the seventh stage of Raja yoga or Ashtanga Yoga. The eight stage is the self realiztion.

51. Vedanta says that Isvara whom people worship is one’s own Self. It teaches an expanded form of Bhakti, the highest form of devotion. 77. The Self or Soul of everyone is Brahman.

But in Raja Yoga, the first step, Yama itself is very difficult for the starters (See wikipedia link to know what is Yama). To be successful in this Yama stage one needs Bakthi and inspiration. Arcana (worshiping an image) is one of the nine forms of Bakthi as said in Shrimad Bhagavatham.

So worshiping or being Bakthi to an image is a part of Bakthi Yoga and it helps you to pass the first stage of Raja Yoga easily. Further the Hindu sacred scriptures don’t command their followers but they always inform and recommend good and righteous. So there is no “Forbidding” in Hinduism. So If one can achieve Yama by showing Bakthi to a stone or a person or an animal, it is still valid. That’s why Hindus choose their loved Gods from millions of Gods, the one which is truly inspirational to them.

“That’s why Hindus choose their loved Gods from millions of Gods, the one which is truly inspirational to them.” more than earth space will be populated bcoz u have got Millions of God…. Allah is one and has got all powers… Allah requires no partners to assit in running the universe….. that is why we belive in one and only true Allah….. we dont have to choose one among millions …it is the creator who chooses creation not the creation who chooses its creator… . this statement itself proves that your god have no complete power to rule alone….. and so why there are many to handle the universe….. and you are inspired by animal who is less to you in sense where u have 6 sense and they just have 5….. and you get inspiration from a stone or rock which has no power … man, you have got more power than a stone and rock….. it has not got even a basic power to move about an inch by iteself you get inspiration from it?????? open your eyes Krishna…. you seem to be wise but at the same time for me you look like walking correctly in a wrong way….good luck… … and yes choose the right one of your choice…. Lol……

first of all interpret the Vedas correctly. When Vedas say GOD doesn’t have an image, it is telling you that just like water doesnt have a shape but still it takes different shape of its container. similarly GOD’s takes the image of Murti when worshiped by its devotee which is very well explained in Bhagawat Gita. Vedas also say GOD is omnipresent means GOD is also in the Murti. So Murti worship is not forbidden in Vedas. Plz do not hesiatate to revert for further…

Though the greatest showman ,magician ,orator bitch zakir naik memorize the holy books of all religions.I dont think he is as islamic scholor not even student of comparative religion which the f_ck_ r always claim to be . He supports osama bin laden , dont tell me it is out of CONTEXT .What he is doing is not dawaa he is spreading opposite of his channel name peace =hatred.Dont watch his lectures he uses other holy books to prove quran is perfect.He is just son of a Bicth.

I challenge all muslims to fight for equality of Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, and Jains and Saudi Arabia. The allowance of building Hindu temples, Buddhists Temples, Sikh temples and Jain temples in the city of mecca. I challenge you muslims to prove your religion is peaceful by allowing these religions to put their place of worship in mecca and openly allow them to preach their message and gain muslims to leave islam and convert to Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhi, or Jainism. Prove islam is peaceful by making this happen.

Allowing someone to follow the wrong path in order to show that Islam is a peaceful religion is not helpful. He is not forcing anyone to convert to Islam. He is just showing you that facts. And if you think that he is wrong then prove it on his face.

Who is he. I’m not talking about some person. I’m talking about equality. Everyone is going to claim what they follow is the truth. So your argument is false. My point is that the right of the individual. The very fact that the Muslim world is not providing equality of all religions will make the whole world go against it. Trust me, Islam is on it’s last foot because of its hate against everyone. And trust me Islam can show it is peaceful by showing it, give equality to all religions. Stop making weak excuses.

Mr.rao can u explain the defination of murderer ithink it means some one kill someone by any couse. Have u read MAHABHARATA ,In the Srimad Bhagavatam 1.7.36, Krishna reminds Arjuna: “A person who knows the principles of religion does not kill an enemy who is careless, intoxicated, insane, asleep, afraid or devoid of his chariot”, thereby highlighting Ashwatthama’s heinous crime. But during the Mahabharata war Krishna Himself advises Arjuna to kill Karna who was devoid of his chariot and not resisting . why arjuna killed krana they all are from same mother & both are half brother…so it is means KRISHANA is murderer .are you agree………no………… i know…………similarly MOHAMMAD kill the all person during war………

Excellent article; very well done. Why can’t Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, Parsis, etc get along? Because of people like Dr. Zakir Naik. Make no mistake, I would rather live peacefully surrounded by people of different faiths than to be surrounded by Naik and those like him.

i am a 14 year old boy .. and some years ago I also was amazed by Mr. Zakir’s vast knowledge on various religions other than Islam. Islam also teaches to first research on something before believing. But doing wrong research and fabricating facts, and even presenting them to his audience is a sin, and doing this thinking they will follow him blindly was the biggest mistake Mr. Zakir made. During early years I never researched anything and thought he can’t be wrong. But that was MY biggest mistake. We should ourselves research in matters of our concern before blindly following someone else. And the way he spoke was that he knew he was lying but he would go on saying lies and lies, both scientific, historical et cetera

I agree with you Dawar… Train a dog to kill and eventually it turns on you with disastrous consequences…why is this man not commenting on the wholesale destruction of Muslim sites in Saudi Arabia by his benefactors, viz the House of Saud….scared his funds may be cut???

A Genuine and much needed step has been taken by You brother. Actually I was also a great admirer of Dr. Naik Until I came to knw the Fact that he is an Extremist and sonetimes also disrespcts the non-muslim’s faiths by taking the help of Quran. I remember One of his Speech on Polygamy which he supported. When asked by a Hindu till what extent Polygamy is Right? He Simply Answered You Know how many wife did Lord Krishna own….. 16008! Alright Man, Lord Krishna had 16008 wives but according to us he is our God. And You are Comparing A simple Muslim with our god….Foolish! In one of the speeches he even questioned the authenticity of Guru Granth Sahib by saying that Science does not allows the facts written! Man U believe that God Created Quran, And all miracles performed by him or any Rasool you find it genuine, but when it comes to the question of other religion u Test its Genuinity on the scientific base! I dont think Dr. Naik even respects Non Muslims or thier faiths. Sometimes he humours about the Holy Prasad which he distribute, Sometimes about Lord Shiva by saying- “…..If He can’t save his own son how will he save me……” A Tough step is needed against him by all communities, even muslims who think that he is misguiding us and degrading the sayings and preaches of Muhammad(S.A.W)

Hey! Yes you are right that according to you Lord Krishna is your God but that does not necessarily means that he is GOD. He may be a messenger of God, who knows. Dr. Naik never criticizes any religion. He himself said that Quran says that many messengers have been sent on Earth (not mentioned by name) so we can assume that they (your gods) may be messengers of God.

Mr.rao can u explain the defination of murderer ithink it means some one kill someone by any couse. Have u read MAHABHARATA ,In the Srimad Bhagavatam 1.7.36, Krishna reminds Arjuna: “A person who knows the principles of religion does not kill an enemy who is careless, intoxicated, insane, asleep, afraid or devoid of his chariot”, thereby highlighting Ashwatthama’s heinous crime. But during the Mahabharata war Krishna Himself advises Arjuna to kill Karna who was devoid of his chariot and not resisting . why arjuna killed krana they all are from same mother & both are half brother…so it is means KRISHANA is murderer .are you agree………no………… i know…………similarly MOHAMMAD kill the all person during war………

Lord krishna had only one wife . Read mahabharata . This is some story in which lord krishna saves 16008 women from captivity of a demon . He does not marry them. Do not believe people like zakir naik , he lies with every breath.

Lord krishna had only one wife . Read mahabharata . This is some story in which lord krishna saves 16008 women from captivity of a demon . He does not marry them. Do not believe people like zakir naik , he blatantly lies. There is an article about this on this website.

Namaste Saif Ahmed Khan Dr. Ali Sina (www,faithfreedom.com) who is a rational thinker has asked Dr. Zakir Naik to debate with him many times. But coward Zakir Naik did not respond him because he knew that he would be failure . Dr. Sina speaks only truth. Millions are awakened and they praise Dr. Sina of his work of spreading the truth and combating the evil. Please refer http://www.alisina.org and also faithfreedom organisation .

Ali Sina is a most culprit person he by born is shia,we are not considering him muslim,bcoz they damgae the islam more then other non muslim….. Sina is muntakki (the person who is mentally sick,who is not ready to accept any thing ,) he is only believe in himself. dr. zakir is also not much powerfull in islam,he is just tricking the people.

Brother, I am interested, but have not much time to spend to read. I love to learn Vedas at least to know what is there in that. Did u read Vedas and Puranas completely. Can u help me how can i learn with complete meaning.

A contemporary interpretation of the Purusha by artist Igor Kufayev, 1995 The Purusha sukta of the earliest Hindu text Rig Veda mentions purusha, the primeval cosmic being.[19] The Purusha is described as all that has ever existed and will ever exist.[20] Viraj, variously interpreted as the mundane egg[19] (see Hiranyagarbha) or the twofold male-female energy, was born from Purusha, and the Purusha was born again from Viraj. The gods then performed a sacrifice with the Purusha, leading to the creation of the other things in the manifested world from his various body parts and his mind. These things included the animals, the Vedas, the Varnas, the celestial bodies, the air, the sky, the heavens, the earth, the directions, and even Indra and Agni. It is likely that this myth has proto-Indo-European origins, as it is similar to other myths found in the Indo-European cultures, in which the creation arises out of the dismemberment of a divine being (cf. Ymir of the Norse mythology).[1] The concept of Purusha is similar to the concept of Brahman described in the later texts.[21]:318 As for the creation of the primordial beings (such as the gods who performed the sacrifice of the Purusha), the Nasadiya Sukta states:[22] Who really knows, and who can swear, How creation came, when or where! Even gods came after creation’s day, Who really knows, who can truly say When and how did creation start? Did He do it? Or did He not? Only He, up there, knows, maybe; Or perhaps, not even He.

— Rig Veda 10.129.1-7

Rigveda (10.121) also mentions the Hiranyagarbha (literally, golden embryo/womb/egg) that existed before the creation. This metaphor has been interpreted differently by the various later texts. The Samkhya texts state that Purusha and the Prakriti made the embryo, from which the world emerged. In another tradition, the creator god Brahma emerged from the egg and created the world, while in yet another tradition the Brahma himself is the Hiranyagarbha.[23] The nature of the Purusha, the creation of the gods and other details of the embryo creation myth have been described variously by the later Hindu texts.

A contemporary interpretation of the Purusha by artist Igor Kufayev, 1995 The Purusha sukta of the earliest Hindu text Rig Veda mentions purusha, the primeval cosmic being.[19] The Purusha is described as all that has ever existed and will ever exist.[20] Viraj, variously interpreted as the mundane egg[19] (see Hiranyagarbha) or the twofold male-female energy, was born from Purusha, and the Purusha was born again from Viraj. The gods then performed a sacrifice with the Purusha, leading to the creation of the other things in the manifested world from his various body parts and his mind. These things included the animals, the Vedas, the Varnas, the celestial bodies, the air, the sky, the heavens, the earth, the directions, and even Indra and Agni. It is likely that this myth has proto-Indo-European origins, as it is similar to other myths found in the Indo-European cultures, in which the creation arises out of the dismemberment of a divine being (cf. Ymir of the Norse mythology).[1] The concept of Purusha is similar to the concept of Brahman described in the later texts.[21]:318 As for the creation of the primordial beings (such as the gods who performed the sacrifice of the Purusha), the Nasadiya Sukta states:[22] Who really knows, and who can swear, How creation came, when or where! Even gods came after creation’s day, Who really knows, who can truly say When and how did creation start? Did He do it? Or did He not? Only He, up there, knows, maybe; Or perhaps, not even He.

— Rig Veda 10.129.1-7

Rigveda (10.121) also mentions the Hiranyagarbha (literally, golden embryo/womb/egg) that existed before the creation. This metaphor has been interpreted differently by the various later texts. The Samkhya texts state that Purusha and the Prakriti made the embryo, from which the world emerged. In another tradition, the creator god Brahma emerged from the egg and created the world, while in yet another tradition the Brahma himself is the Hiranyagarbha.[23]

Allah is always with humen from start to end of universe.have not seen jesus,moses,Allah is name of creator,in ur religion there is so many gods who are doing there duty,but barhamma is superior then all. but in our & bible,jews religion only one god who is owner of whole univers…another works are done by angels ubder the guidence of Allah.

A honest reply from a Muslim Intellectual Youth. Some will say that the writer of this article is a liberal muslim. I will like to say that writer is a True Muslim who beleives in Peace and not radicalism.

Dear sir as I read your blog I m surprised that u were forcing a man to believe in the act..which he had not seen by his own eyes…ye to her kisi na haq hai ke WO kis baat ka bharosa kare ..or jaisa aaj ke media or politics ka haal hai WO kisi se chupa nahi..to it is not right to blame someone on that…hope u will understand wat I m trying to cleRify..