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Ask the Readers: How Do You Keep Frugality Fun and Interesting?

Thrift is an essential skill for overcoming debt and building wealth. Even a billionaire like Warren Buffet preaches the virtues of pinching pennies. But can a frugal life be fun? What do you do when smart spending gets boring? That’s what Sarah wants to know:

How do you stave off frugality-induced boredom? In the short-term, I always find frugality to be a challenge, and I enjoy saving money and finding bargains where I can, but it never fails: After a few months of being good, I fall off the wagon and just don’t feel like doing it anymore, even though I know that our budget requires it. It’s not that we’re uber-frugal people depriving ourselves of any and every joy in life, but it just gets old after a while, you know? How do you keep frugality fun and interesting? How do you avoid falling off the wagon?

I love this question. I, too, fall off the frugality wagon from time-to-time. I think we all do. It’s important not to beat yourself up when you make a mistake, though. Remember the big picture. Here are some strategies I use to stay focused:

Set goals. Frugality used to drive me crazy, too. Sometimes it still does. One thing that’s helped, especially over the past year, is to have goals in mind. Do I still want that MINI Cooper? You bet I do. And I want to buy some new furniture for the living room, a new bicycle, and some new clothes. But I keep reminding myself that becoming debt-free is more important. (And once I’ve licked my debt at the end of this month, I’ll begin focusing on my goal of becoming a full-time writer.) Goals help me get back on track when I lose my way.

Beware of the tedious stuff. I believe that if there’s something you do to save money that really bugs you every time you do it, you probably shouldn’t be doing it. For example, some frugal folks rinse and reuse zip-loc bags. I can’t do that. It would drive me nuts. Could I save more if I did so? Sure, but at the cost of my sanity. Remember my maxim: Do what works for you. Find frugal things that make you feel good about yourself, and ditch those that make you loathe living.

Allow yourself a periodic splurge. Many diet plans incorporate one day (or meal) each week during which you can eat whatever you want. Try a similar concept with your money. Practice frugality on a regular basis, but set aside maybe one day a month to spend some pre-set amount of money at the mall or the record store or the garden center. Last year, I saved for a Nintendo Wii. I’m proud to have done so — it’s one of the first things I ever saved for instead of just buying. (Kris and I get a lot of use from it, too — right now, it’s dance battles every night!)

Pick one area of life in which you don’t exercise thrift. Kris and I, for example, like to eat at nice restaurants. We don’t eat out often, but when we do, we eat well. During these past three years, as I’ve eliminated my debt, I’ve cut back on many things, but I’ve intentionally always allowed myself to dine out at my favorite places. (It’s also true that I’ve continued to spend a lot on comic books, but that’s because I lack self-discipline.)

Read about other thrifty people. Whenever I leaf through The Complete Tightwad Gazette, I find myself rededicated to frugality. “If all these people can do the frugal things they share here,” I think, “then I can keep being thrifty, too.” Your public library probably has a dozen or so books on frugality — mine does.

These are a just few of the ways I work to keep frugality fun and interesting. Setting goals is the most important of these steps for me. Trent at The Simple Dollar recently wrote about the relationship between fun and frugality, too.

What about you? How many of you consider yourselves frugal? (If you don’t, what are the reasons frugality isn’t a priority for you?) What do you do when things get boring? How do you keep frugality fresh?

Well, to me frugality is fun, even creative; I have more difficulty NOT being frugal. But to make it more fun: find a frugal friend! I moved to a better office a few years ago, better because I have a window now, but also because I am opposite my favorite frugal pal. We swap tips all the time, much to the amusement of our hallmates, who are privy to every word. (We are having office hours btw; we’re not slacking off!). So in addition to the trivial (sweet potatoes are the cheapest this week at Albertson’s! bliss!), we also share tips on the bigger stuff (like when I figured out that reconfiguring my health insurance would save me $160/month, a tip adopted by two people on the hall, who then shared it with others). I also recycle my children’s outgrown books among 3 people with younger children. My daughter is the recipient of pre-read Vogue magazines. ETC. With the exception of the health insurance ($1600/yr [please don't correct math--we are on a 10 month pay cycle]times quite a few people), all is trivial, but definitely fun and a community-builder.

I am with you about the ziploc bag thing. Every time I get rid of one I say I should reuse them. I try it for a while and then get annoyed with all the loose bags that never do seem to get reused. So I am frugal in other ways…I can mend things instead of buying new all the time, I group my errands so I use less gas, I make most of our meals at home etc. etc. And, when I do buy new boxes of ziploc bags, I do it on sale and with a coupon! Of course, I still feel a little guilty about the environmental impact of all the ziplocs I throw away…

I think it depends on your definition of frugality. If your definition is pinching every penny, then you’re going to have a tough time having any fun.

On the other hand, if your definition of frugality is to save 10% of your income, then you start to have more wiggle room. As long as you meet your objective, you can spend any leftover cash on things you’d enjoy.

The counter argument is that, if you have any money left over, you should save it too. You could, I suppose, but only to the point where it supports the life that you want.

I think people make the mistake of believing frugality is a lifestyle. It’s not. It’s a tool that helps you achieve your ideal lifestyle both now and in the future.

As long as you’re using it to work TOWARD the life that you really and truly want, then I think it’s easy to be happy. The reason frugality makes people miserable is that they use it to create a lifestyle they DON’T truly want, and the cognitive dissonance drives them nuts

I agree with the concept that Jon Morrow is talking about saying frugality is a tool but I actually enjoy being frugal. It is fun to find the best deal and to think that you saved money by doing this action. Shopping for a deal becomes a hunt instead of a chore.

Like others have stated, my frugality has always been with purpose. I save on the pennies so they become dollars that eventually go towards bigger goals — whether that be a fluffy nest of savings or a big purchase.

Frugality can’t be flat out denial for most people. Some enjoy the ascetic life, but most need to see value in their actions manifest through a grander reaching of goals.

Piddling away money on $5 coffees and clothes I won’t wear is easy when I means I get the big things that bring joy. Like a Mini Cooper. I bought mine without guilt because we had saved for it. Ditto with the computers and other luxury items we enjoy daily.

MrHolly and I make frugality a game in itself. We challenge ourselves to find better deals, to find new uses for old things.

When he first went to Big Expensive Grad School, I remember watching him spend an hour totally engaged, rigging up a mousepad, rubber bands, a leftover piece of plywood and a bookend so that he didn’t have to spend $30 on a pullout keyboard holder for his student desk. It was like Macgyver for Nerds. Fun, challenge,excitement AND frugality.

I am also a strong believer in spending where it gives me greatest pleasure. It makes the downside of frugality easier to bear.

I have to agree that goals are huge when trying to save money and not just long term goals. For example, I want to retire at 45, but I also want to take some time off when our second baby is born next spring.

So right now I’ve got a short term goal that is really helping me to examine my spending again and find additional ways to save. It’s always easier to say to yourself, “No I don’t want this, instead of this I get another hour at home with my new baby.”

It also helps to turn it into a game. How much can I save this month? Can I do better than last month? But regardless you must remember to laugh once in a while, otherwise you won’t be having any fun. Such as “Honey, why should I clean the house, we can let it stay dirty and save the money on cleaning products.” I actually said that with a straight face and then broke down laughing with my wife.

I try to keep it fresh by really looking forward to my “free money.” For instance, the one thing I refuse to give up is going to the movies. So I spend all week reading reviews and deciding what movie I get to see over the weekend.

I’m with Emily, in that it’s more difficult for me to be a spendthrift than it is to be frugal. A splurge once in a while, maybe, but to truly fall off the wagon would be way too stressful.

I confess, I do wash my Ziploc bags, because I just can’t see throwing them away when they are still useful (although I’d like to get away from using them at all).

I think my one regular “un-frugal” habit is taking a nice deep, hot bath every night. Sure, a quick shower with warm (not hot) water would save us some money, but I love my bath too much to give it up.

And if I get the urge to spend? I go to garage sales or thrift stores to get my fix without spending much money.

Sometimes when I feel myself wanting “stuff,” I actually look to examples of what I consider ridiculous materialism. The most recent example is a catalog I got in the mail that offered, for $10,000, a huge jewelry cabinet to store all your baubles. The idea of having so much jewelry that you needed to buy this huge chest for what a decent used car would cost was so over-the-top to me that it made me grateful I live a simple life… and that got me excited again about simplicity/frugality.

I do not like Starbucks coffee, so I never go there during the year. When their Gingerbread Latte comes out (fall), I always treat myself to one or two/year. I guess it’s good that they only have it during the holidays. It cost me $3.68. The money that I used was money that I planned on spending to treat a friend for dinner. He ended up treating, so I actually saved.
On another note, I was looking at some corduroy pants in a catalog a few months back, but I didn’t buy them because I already have 5 pairs (one for each workday). Yesterday I went online and they were on sale. I am thinking they may go further on sale, so I’m holding off, but I will be so happy the day I actually get one more pair. One can never have enough corduroys to keep me cozy in winter.

I like all the suggestions, especially the part about sharing tips in the office. A few of my coworkers and I are always discussing the latest online tools or bank accounts that we’ve found.

The online tools and tricks are the way I keep frugality interesting. I always like to try new tool or methods for keeping my budget. And tweaking the budget every month is one of the ways to keep it new and exciting. Tracking your performance and doing minor metrics is also fun if you’re a nerd like me.

I remember feeling much the same way as Sarah when I first tried to incorporate frugality into my lifestyle. My initial efforts were unsuccessful because I took the wrong approach – I was focused more on how to save money rather than spend money wisely. In other words, because I didn’t have a spending plan I thought cutting back/restriction was the only way to save. Inevitabaly the frustration and boredom led to setbacks. Once I ‘reversed’ my thinking, the whole process started to become effortless. A few things that worked for me:

• Find cheaper ways to do fun stuff. I like to go out — and get out of town. Both things that usually eat up the extra cash quickly. Now I have a list of happy hours & daily restaurant specials on my fridge. When the mac & cheese at home gets especially dull, I can still go out for some good cheap eats. Skybus (www.skybus.com) and Megabus (www.megabus.com) have gotten me to and from several places for next to nothing. Whatever your fun thing is, there is bound to be a way to do it on the cheap.

• Stash an extra $50 in your wallet. This little trick may sound crazy and illogical especially when an extra $50 may be hard to come by, but I heard this somewhere years ago and tried it — and now I have $100 at all times! The thought is that if you always have money for the ‘little something’ that you have to have, you will never feel like you are without. And just because you have the money doesn’t mean you will automatically spend it right away. In fact, it is usually the opposite. You think more carefully about parting with that money and probably won’t, but you don’t feel like you are depriving yourself in the meantime.

• Save money just to spend. Again — sound’s crazy, but I can’t tell you how that little piggy bank of spare change on the microwave has come in handy during a moment of weakness. Whatever your method, if you have a little tucked away for that urge to splurge, boredom and frustration are rarely a problem.

•Play Mind Games. A guest post from James on October 28th (“Build Wealth with a Virtual Employer”) made some great points about how to save money while still enjoying life fully. I can relate to his process because he found a way to save money while not feeling restricted in his lifestyle. Good stuff.

• Set Goals. Have to piggy-back with J.D. on this one. If you have a ‘bigger picture’ in mind, usually frugality becomes second-nature.

Finally, keeping good information (like this blog) readily handy gives you lots of options and support. You start to realize that there are several different ways to get to the same destination, and it is just a matter of consistently learning what they are. What may work today may not tomorrow, but at least if you have a good resource, you will always find your way. Good Luck.

Great question. I have two responses.
1) gather a support group and meet regularly, preferably over soup. 3-4 people who are supporting each other in fiscal responsibility are a huge asset, and building friendships adds hugely to your quality of life. Blogs are fun, but live people in your weekly life makes an immense difference. Give yourselves a name and loose goals, like support and accountability. It will be fun, you’ll see.
2) I like the idea of mad money. When I see my grown children, I usually give them $50 or so, not as a big deal gift, just as a loving gesture. My daughter says she really likes it, because while she rarely spends it, she likes THINKING about spending it. It means you can indulge in a fantasy and then decide if you want to follow through. Trying not to indulge in material fantasies goes against human nature. But very often, when you identify your thinking as fantasy, you can get real and skip the expenditure.

One of the best ways that I find to stay motivated is to track my progress. I get a lot of satisfaction seeing my monthly cash flow improve with each expense I reduce.

Sometimes it can feel like you are depriving yourself but a lot of times you can cut back with out deprivation at all. There are lots of expenses out there that do nothing to enhance your life. The best example is taxes. By reducing the amount of tax you pay you are leaving more money in your pocket without depriving yourself of anything. It puts the fun back in frugality.

When I first made my budget, I allocated too much for my monthly food bill, mostly because I got smarter about my purchases. So at the end of the first month, I had extra $ left over. My first thought was put it in savings, and reduce that amount for future months. Instead, since I had other financial bases covered already, I decided that what’s left-over at the end of the month, can go in a jar in the house to be used by me for whatever purchase I want, frivolous or otherwise, for me or others – like that’s my reward for being frugal with my grocery money all month, and now I don’t feel deprived doing so.

Having some short term goals and rewards helps keep the motivation. We’re going to Florida to celebrate our 1 year annivesary and it had been planned for almost a year. By saving month by month, we’re going to have a great time with little guilt.

Frugality should not mean deprivation. In fact, many frugal people gain expertise in things like machinery repair, construction, carpentry, woodworking, restoration, and interior decorating because they want to do it themselves. I don’t know about you, but this does not sound boring to me.

Frugality doesn’t have to mean a spartan lifestyle. It just means considering carefully before spending your money and making sure a purchase is really something you will value.
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Daiko

This is so not the point of your post, but I’ll respond anyway. I used to be a bag washer, but it got a bit tedious, especially when I was the only one doing it. So now, I try to think if I can use a plastic container for whatever I needed the bag for (like to hold lunch snacks). That way, I’m being frugal and environmentally conscious.

I’m a frugal person, but that doesn’t mean that I live miserly. What really helps me is being conscious of my money and what I buy with it. I refuse to just buy the latest gadget. When I shop, I already have something in mind, and if I see something I like but wasn’t on my initial list, I wait a full day before deciding whether to buy it or not. If I buy a somewhat expensive piece of clothing, I do so fully knowing how many hours went into it, and that I had been planning to buy it for a while.

Frugality helps me avoid being yet another mindless consumer, controlled by marketing and corporations. Most purchases I make are done so with the awareness that, despite the millions of dollars spent by corporations trying to convince me to buy the item, I am buying it because *I* want to.

Additionally, I’m very much a supporter of saving the planet. I’m not a hippie or anything, but I just get it that the planet only has so many resources from which the items we buy come from. So it just makes complete sense to me to lessen or avoid brand new, “raw items” in favor of second-hand. That mentality sits right in with frugal thinking, as most second-hand items tend to be less expensive. I can’t say I do this for everything I buy, but for instance, I borrow books from the library and buy used ones if I have to.

Lastly, the most fun out of frugality I get, is that each day that I save a little bit more, each year that accumulates interest on my savings and investments, is making me better off in the future than a whole lot of other people. I can be far richer even now than someone with higher pay than me who buys luxury cars on credit with a pile of debt around them.

I’ve got my frugal goals too, but I find it far more motivating in this instance to look back instead of forwards at how much I’ve already achieved. Much like your pride in saving for the Nintendo Wii.

There are actually a lot of fun and interesting things to do for very little money. Trouble is, it’s harder to find out about them than it is to find out about the things that cost a lot of money (because the expensive stuff is usually promoted by expensive advertising campaigns…)

I like to read. I could spend money to buy books, but instead I get stuff from the library.

I like music and theater performances. I could spend upwards of $25, $40, $75 a ticket on the big acts in the big theaters in town, but there are literally hundreds of smaller venues with lots of interesting work going on for far smaller admission prices. It just takes a little more detective work to find them.

And, don’t forget that old saw about the best things in life are free. Get outdoors–nature is amazing, and parks and beaches are generally free, free, free. Going to the playground with a kid? Fabulous, and playgrounds are free! (Heck, if you don’t have a kid of your own, you can probably get someone to pay you to watch their kid for a while…) There are also some great pastimes just for grownups that are time-honored ways of passing the time for free, and those never get old.

I agree with the concept of a “splurge” every so often. My wife and I really try to pinch as many pennies as possible, but some of that “pinching” is to save up for a night on the town. It helps us stay focused on the other reason for pinching (debt reduction).

Also, as has been said, some people actually find certain ways of being frugal to also be fun. When you find that, have all the fun with it you can…you’ll be saving more and more money!

I think the “frugality gets boring” problem is definitely partly one of mind set. Reading over these posts, what I hear is some people saying is that if/when you are frugal because it’s become part of your philosophy of life, if you see that it’s better for the planet and it’s better for your own peace and contentment, boredom/frustration is less likely. It may be that frustration/boredom is a sign of imbalance, an indication that it’s time to think about what changes can/need to be made maybe in the realm of spending, and maybe elsewhere.

I DO clean my bags. But I only process the ones that can be cleaned with a quick rinse. If I have to scrub with soap then rinse forget it. Cheese residue? Moldy left-overs? Into the trash they go. If they pile up I toss them as well. When I realized I was STILL getting two or three uses per bag ON AVERAGE, I stopped feeling guilty at the waste.

My weakness is books and I can spend (and have spent) a LOT of money at Amazon. Here’s what I do control myself:

- Try to find it at the library. There are some utilities to automate this. I use Book Burro (http://bookburro.org/) which will
alert me if the book I’m looking at (on Amazon) is at a nearby library, or available cheaper elsewhere. If I totally love the book then I can buy a copy for myself later, but usually I’m happy to return it and never look at it again.

- After I fill My Cart, before buying several books, I pull at least one item back out of it “for next time.”

- I put it into my Wish List instead. This is VERY helpful: sometimes I’m just in greed-mode, and putting it my Wish List satisfies that itch, especially since I know I can buy it “next time.”

Now if only I could save on parking… I could buy a lot of books with THAT money!

I like the idea that David Bach presents in the Automatic Millionaire, that is to make being frugal automatic. In a very oversimplified way, just take the money away from yourself before you spend it. Set up a savings account or investment account that every month right when you get paid, it automatically deducts $50/100/200 (whatever you want) and puts it into another account or invests it automatically. This may not fall into the truly frugal category but it helps me to be more frugal because there is just less money there to waste on coffee, dvds, or whatever else comes up.

My problem is that I’ve already done most of the things that have big results with little pain, so I’m left with things that have small gains and more pain. I already drive an old, paid off car. I rent for about as little as it’s possible to pay without getting into a co-op (which I’ve applied to, but no luck so far). I already switched to VOIP to cut down my phone bill, switched banks to avoid fees and get higher interest, set up automatic savings plans for both retirement and taxable mutual funds, stopped buying videogames unless it’s something I’m going to play right away (although I still have unplayed games on my shelf from before I instituted that policy).

Anything I do from here on to save money is going to be a hard, painful lifestyle change. Which comes back to the balance between saving for tomorrow and enjoying your life today. I’ve known enough people who died young that I have no interest in saving every penny for retirement.

I think that beyond being certain that you have a purpose in your frugality (goals) the next important thing is to replace the expensive activities with fun ones that cost less.

I’ve learned to get a real kick out of the interesting clothes I find at thrift stores. I get more complements on those than on ones that I buy new. I love the theater and can drop a fair amount on a ticket when there’s something I really want to see. But there are often good plays at community theaters for $10 and our annual Shakespeare in the Park is free. Some friends with more flexible schedules than mine, volunteer to hand out programs at the theater and get to see the plays for free.

Bird watching, cross country skiing, kayaking, and lovely autumn walks are some of the funnest things around. The kayaks weren’t free but they sure were cheaper than the big gas guzzling motor boats that so many people have. Cross country ski setups can be bought for less than $200 and provide years of skiing for the money. In some places you can find used equipment.

Get a book from the library on local architecture and go check out the buildings. Watch your local newspaper for outdoor concerts…

When you are trying to save on food get some interesting cookbooks – at the library or used book store – and enjoy the experiment.

1. Spend money on the important, life-enhancing stuff, and spend less on things that don’t matter as much to you.

We spend a lot of money watching and participating in live performances and on travel. On the other hand, we drive old cars, borrow books from the library, wear clothes for comfort instead of style, and are downsizing our home. Your priorities will be different.

Frugal Bachelor has become bored and unhappy with being thrifty and is currently looking for ways to intentionally (but systematically) increase his spending in order to keep himself happy, and his life interesting, so that he doesn’t go berserk and go on huge spending spree (much as how JD suggests treating oneself occasionally). He cut back his spending below where he should have, and is now paying the price.

This is becoming a hot topic, as well it should be. It is so easy to become obsessed with numbers and Frugal Bachelor is as guilty as anybody about staring at his account balances and net worth all day long and figuring out how to pinch a few more cents. At the end of the day money is a just a means to an end, and the next challenge after getting your finances in order is to figure out how to use your financial position to LIVE better.

I think the best way to answer this is to ask another question: why are you being frugal? It’s one thing if you just don’t have a lot of money, another if you have debt, another if you have a family, another if you just try to avoid being an over-consumer, etc.

I think a balance [that you're comfortable with] has to be reached. You have to recognize when to pay up for something, or when it is reasonable to find a cheaper alternative.

For example, I do a lot of shopping at Goodwill and Value Village. The stores I go to have (generally) a great selection of clothes that are in really good condition. Between shopping for used clothing, and shopping in places like Ross, I rarely buy new clothes in department or specialty stores — and it isn’t obvious to other people. I’ve seen Seven jeans at Goodwill, and I recently bought a (seemingly unworn) cashmere sweater for $15. However, I also know that if I want/need something specific and I can’t find it used, I’ll go and buy it new.

So, the real answer is: decide why you are being frugal, and then find the right balance between what to be frugal with, and what (and when) to splurge on something.

I must admit that the switch from being extravagant to being frugal is not easy. There was a lot of temptation to spend my savings, especially when have a lot of cash in your bank account. But after you got through those temptations, it becomes easier..just like dieting.

Now, I really find frugality fun. This is because I want my friends and family to see the importance of frugality..and I want them to become frugal too. Becoming a frugal person has much more influence on other people than just mainly preaching. Your credibility shoots up if they themselves see you as being frugal.

Just recently when I was in Singapore, I was really tempted to buy a PSP. I already did some web shopping and mall shopping to see which store has the lowest price, but before deciding to buy it, I asked questions to myself like “Will this thing really help me in the long run? Will I find more fulfillment and enjoyment in spending my money or saving and investing it?” Since I really like investing and seeing my money grow, the decision was a no brainer. I also thought of what I felt when I spend my money on things that will not really help me achieve my goal..and so I opted not to buy one

For me, it’s fun and exciting to know that I’m totally satisfied with what I already have, and my money is earning interest until I have a better reason to spend it. I think the epiphany happened when I was listening to Sheryl Crow’s Soak up the Sun and she sang “It’s not having what you want, it’s wanting what you’ve got”

A fellow blogger has discovered focusing on one area of frugality for a while and constantly changing it helps her stay focused. Eg. she budgets $120/wk for groceries (in Australia), but for a couple of months tried to spend $100/wk. When she got bored of that she moved to electricity, and tried to cut the amount used until she got bored of that. Obviously the food still needed to be bought for under $120, but it wasn’t quite as restricting as $100.

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great post J.D. There are some people out there that lose they’re frugality skills because they don’t mix it in with the fun. I believe this is what’s helping keep me going. I hope you find a way to control your spending on those comic books. I never bought one in my life.

I have never been good about coupons, when I do hang onto them, I forget about them until their dates have expired. Well this week (after months of reading your site), I decided that I was going to try and cash in on all of the coupons I had (of course only for those things that I would typically buy). With a stack of coupons in hand, I set out yesterday to only buy things on sale and with my coupons.

When I got to the register, I told the cashier that I was on a coupon extravaganza and she laughed and got in on the fun, finding extra coupons for my purchases. In the end I saved $47 and made a tired DC cashier laugh. Now that was fun.

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