* Collapse in the West (late 5th century AD, though not 476 AD for reasons technical)?

+ 6000 or so additional monthly turns! (= 15000 total)

* Collapse in the East (15th Century AD, but not 1453 AD ... again, for reasons techical)?

+ 11000 or so additional turns? (= 26,000 total)

* Collapse of the Romanovs (who claimed to trace their legitimacy from the Late East Roman Empire, c 1920s AD)?

+ 5500 additional turns (c. 32000 total!)

Average of, what, maybe 15 minutes a turn? 8000 hours. 8 hours a day = 1000 days or about 3 years, more or less full time. Closer to 4 if you have weekends off.

AJE/BOR = It's not a game, it's a *lifestyle*.

And I strongly doubt that you'd get by with only am average 15 minute turn. Managing the economy, the tech tree (for ghu's sake, *designing* the tech tree would be a horrendous job!), random events (plagues, deaths, civil wars, foreign invasions ... and, if you do significantly better than historically, then there'd be the need to map the entire old world, from the Arctic Circle to the tip of Africa, from Ireland to Japan, just so you could invade everything in sight and conquer it all ... then there'd be the "New World" and "Pacific" expansion sets, adding scope for more conquests.

* Collapse in the West (late 5th century AD, though not 476 AD for reasons technical)?

+ 6000 or so additional monthly turns! (= 15000 total)

* Collapse in the East (15th Century AD, but not 1453 AD ... again, for reasons techical)?

+ 11000 or so additional turns? (= 26,000 total)

* Collapse of the Romanovs (who claimed to trace their legitimacy from the Late East Roman Empire, c 1920s AD)?

+ 5500 additional turns (c. 32000 total!)

Average of, what, maybe 15 minutes a turn? 8000 hours. 8 hours a day = 1000 days or about 3 years, more or less full time. Closer to 4 if you have weekends off.

AJE/BOR = It's not a game, it's a *lifestyle*.

And I strongly doubt that you'd get by with only am average 15 minute turn. Managing the economy, the tech tree (for ghu's sake, *designing* the tech tree would be a horrendous job!), random events (plagues, deaths, civil wars, foreign invasions ... and, if you do significantly better than historically, then there'd be the need to map the entire old world, from the Arctic Circle to the tip of Africa, from Ireland to Japan, just so you could invade everything in sight and conquer it all ... then there'd be the "New World" and "Pacific" expansion sets, adding scope for more conquests.

* Collapse in the West (late 5th century AD, though not 476 AD for reasons technical)?

+ 6000 or so additional monthly turns! (= 15000 total)

* Collapse in the East (15th Century AD, but not 1453 AD ... again, for reasons techical)?

+ 11000 or so additional turns? (= 26,000 total)

* Collapse of the Romanovs (who claimed to trace their legitimacy from the Late East Roman Empire, c 1920s AD)?

+ 5500 additional turns (c. 32000 total!)

Average of, what, maybe 15 minutes a turn? 8000 hours. 8 hours a day = 1000 days or about 3 years, more or less full time. Closer to 4 if you have weekends off.

AJE/BOR = It's not a game, it's a *lifestyle*.

And I strongly doubt that you'd get by with only am average 15 minute turn. Managing the economy, the tech tree (for ghu's sake, *designing* the tech tree would be a horrendous job!), random events (plagues, deaths, civil wars, foreign invasions ... and, if you do significantly better than historically, then there'd be the need to map the entire old world, from the Arctic Circle to the tip of Africa, from Ireland to Japan, just so you could invade everything in sight and conquer it all ... then there'd be the "New World" and "Pacific" expansion sets, adding scope for more conquests.

It would be a lifetime commitment

Phil

RE-PLAYABILITY!

Yes that's exactly what I want!

Once your done with the short scenarios your done with the whole game! Such a waste!

I have been looking at these games and saving up my pennies. I am now familiar with AJE and BOR. But please, can someone translate PoN for me. I am thinking Panzers on the Nile (no, that would be PotN), Portugal Ousts Nazis, or Partners of Napoleon, etc...

* Collapse in the West (late 5th century AD, though not 476 AD for reasons technical)?

+ 6000 or so additional monthly turns! (= 15000 total)

* Collapse in the East (15th Century AD, but not 1453 AD ... again, for reasons techical)?

+ 11000 or so additional turns? (= 26,000 total)

* Collapse of the Romanovs (who claimed to trace their legitimacy from the Late East Roman Empire, c 1920s AD)?

+ 5500 additional turns (c. 32000 total!)

Average of, what, maybe 15 minutes a turn? 8000 hours. 8 hours a day = 1000 days or about 3 years, more or less full time. Closer to 4 if you have weekends off.

AJE/BOR = It's not a game, it's a *lifestyle*.

And I strongly doubt that you'd get by with only am average 15 minute turn. Managing the economy, the tech tree (for ghu's sake, *designing* the tech tree would be a horrendous job!), random events (plagues, deaths, civil wars, foreign invasions ... and, if you do significantly better than historically, then there'd be the need to map the entire old world, from the Arctic Circle to the tip of Africa, from Ireland to Japan, just so you could invade everything in sight and conquer it all ... then there'd be the "New World" and "Pacific" expansion sets, adding scope for more conquests.

It would be a lifetime commitment

Phil

Talk about exaggerating a point. lol An empire builder like Total War did it would be just fine. 200-400 years as long as players get to play Caesar, Scipio and Hannibal.

... Do you know if Matrix are going to sell all the Ageod games or just the later ones?

I'm not completely sure, but as I know, AGEOD are working on new patch versions of Pride of Nations and Rise of Prussia, which will move game to Matrix sell system ... so both will be sell here too. I know nothing about older games ...

... Do you know if Matrix are going to sell all the Ageod games or just the later ones?

I'm not completely sure, but as I know, AGEOD are working on new patch versions of Pride of Nations and Rise of Prussia, which will move game to Matrix sell system ... so both will be sell here too. I know nothing about older games ...

Matto,

Thanks for that. It gives me a little more time to save my pennies. I shall wait for the new patch.