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Re: The Wolf's Den, beware of howling

Yeah it looked amazing, but I found the questing hilariously enough super boring. It feels funny saying I prefer the WoW quest style that is so boring on paper. I only really had a single day where I was all "I can't stop playing", which I normally have for weeks when I e.g. start playing WoW.

Overall my main issues were:

Gameplay:
Too few skills. You have 5 core abilities depending on which weapon combo you choose, and you get all these in the span of a few kills. All other abilities are either passive buffs (with a use) or cooldowns. As you can tell the variety really lacks. In addition you never feel like you "become awesome", since everything scales. Sure killing lowbie mobs does become easier as you get % better gear than you had in that level, plus you only get scaled down "the necessary levels", so you could e.g. be scaled down to lvl 8 while killing lvl 6 mobs. But in current levels you always feel rather weak as the mobs hit hard and you need to play really seriously to play well with all the dodging and all. One would think that being given a challenge would be interesting, but to me I grew bored. I thought perhaps it was my Thief class, so I tried another, but nothing really changed.

Questing/Leveling:
The levels are too slow and static. I really like how it's done in e.g. Diablo and WoW. Blizzard has IMO mastered the art of leveling and game progression. Getting levels fast in the beginning and slower as you progress, but the rewards are worth the wait. In GW2 you get all your core abilities right away, and all you really have to wait for is unlocking more slots to place buffs/cooldowns in. Super static and feels very dull. In addition the leveling is almost constant. What I mean is it's not a big difference between how fast you reach level 1-2 and 34-35

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These are my main issues, but I have a lot of minor ones too that I won't bother listing e.g. the gear design looks EXACTLY THE SAME (like 3 different noob outfits all look crap) for eternity. I still see lvl 70+ guys walk around with the same crap looking gear I do. So damn boring when you get new gear and it looks the same as your previous piece... Overall it felt like a huge miss for me. Nice graphics though.

Re: The Wolf's Den, beware of howling

That's true. I did test out the WvW, but that was just super dull IMO. I felt like I was massively wasting my time there. I suppose the real PvP is better, but I still have the same issues with the gameplay which just lacks too much variation for me.

I mean comparingly, in D3 where there's only ever 6 abilities active at once makes it work because you have such a large amount of abilities to choose from. You could technically make a build around any ability, even if some builds are better than others. In GW2 you're forced to spam the same 5 abilities really, for the Thief it's mostly about using 3 abilities (one of them being an auto-attack...), and from what I've heard it's much the same for other classes. When 1-5 is your only real "spam" abilities, and one of them is even an auto-attack, things don't exactly feel varied...

Re: The Wolf's Den, beware of howling

I have to say Nuno, Borderlands has only 1 active ability (with the possiblity of powering up some skills in the highest tier that might give you some extra stuff to do while the active is on) with passives being the rest of the skills but the sheer amount of items that drop really make up for it (different elements that have to be used against different mobs, not to mention different grenade skills like blackhole or life leech etc.). But ultimately it's one of those very quickly done games and I in no way would have bothered if it was any longer.

In other words it's a bummer/really dull there's only 5 skills in GW2, since the variety of skills is really the only way I'd be able to enjoy an (mmo)rpg.

Re: The Wolf's Den, beware of howling

Originally Posted by 3c

That's true. I did test out the WvW, but that was just super dull IMO. I felt like I was massively wasting my time there. I suppose the real PvP is better, but I still have the same issues with the gameplay which just lacks too much variation for me.

I mean comparingly, in D3 where there's only ever 6 abilities active at once makes it work because you have such a large amount of abilities to choose from. You could technically make a build around any ability, even if some builds are better than others. In GW2 you're forced to spam the same 5 abilities really, for the Thief it's mostly about using 3 abilities (one of them being an auto-attack...), and from what I've heard it's much the same for other classes. When 1-5 is your only real "spam" abilities, and one of them is even an auto-attack, things don't exactly feel varied...

Originally Posted by ibra87

I have to say Nuno, Borderlands has only 1 active ability (with the possiblity of powering up some skills in the highest tier that might give you some extra stuff to do while the active is on) with passives being the rest of the skills but the sheer amount of items that drop really make up for it (different elements that have to be used against different mobs, not to mention different grenade skills like blackhole or life leech etc.). But ultimately it's one of those very quickly done games and I in no way would have bothered if it was any longer.

In other words it's a bummer/really dull there's only 5 skills in GW2, since the variety of skills is really the only way I'd be able to enjoy an (mmo)rpg.

In my opinion, the best mmo maker is NCSOFT. I enjoyed Aion so much and spent countless hours playing it. I'm also gonna pick Tera over any other online game out there.

Re: The Wolf's Den, beware of howling

Ah, Mage finally did it. Good for him, I was hoping he wouldn't die after last I saw him (94), that would suck. I was right after all, they don't dare go outside act 1, haha. I got to try his build, it looks pretty wicked with Arcane Orb. Well, next time I resume playing that is. No idea if the patch will have changed it then.

And lol, the one who was behind him for months was Summoner (witch doc), and he's RIP at 81 now. Oh jeez.

Re: The Wolf's Den, beware of howling

Today? Nothing yet at least.

I think I will let it rest anyway, or who knows. Maybe I will try it a bit. But I already killed the Warden or whatever in act 3 on the public test realm on MP3. It was freaking hard since I insisted on being in melee with my wiz.. Didn't drop shit, but naturally so since I had no NV buffs. I merely went to check its power out. It SPAMS frozen like no tomorrow and you lose heavy HP by just standing in the unreleased frozen areas.