When they use the marathon analogy, I think they are implying something along the lines of the tortoise beating the hare. Which is a nice enough fable but how do you catch up to numbers like 100,000 apps or 2.5 billion dollars paid to developers or 9.25 million iPads sold in 3 months?

When they use the marathon analogy, I think they are implying something along the lines of the tortoise beating the hare. Which is a nice enough fable but how do you catch up to numbers like 100,000 apps or 2.5 billion dollars paid to developers or 9.25 million iPads sold in 3 months?

Easy. You soft launch the Touchpad and Veer. One Two Punch. That's why they got that boxer Pacquiao to advertise it.

When they use the marathon analogy, I think they are implying something along the lines of the tortoise beating the hare. Which is a nice enough fable but how do you catch up to numbers like 100,000 apps or 2.5 billion dollars paid to developers or 9.25 million iPads sold in 3 months?

I think they should stop using the Marathon Analogy, unless they don't mind being analogized as the avg Joe marathoner. Elite & Professional Marathoners usually finish the race in just over 2 hours (usually less than half the time it takes the average runner to finish the race). It's already been over a year since the merger, if HP doesn't pick things up soon, they won't stand a chance at catching up to the "Elite runners" of this "Marathon".

I understand the whole long term strategy thing, but HP has to create some serious momentum over the next 12 months to stay in the race. HP probably sees itself as officially starting this "marathon" with the TouchPad launch; so we'll see where they end up 6 mo - 1 yr from now.

It's like that old argument about how the smartphone battle is in its infancy because there are still X million feature phone users that haven't upgraded to smartphones yet. Yeah, they exist -- but what makes you think they'll want to upgrade to your smartphone?

Guys.... we keep the "other handhelds" forums here to discuss and compare devices. If you wish to use this forum for that, please do. If you wish to discuss Apple please feel free to do so over on our sister site TiPb.

Ahhh Man! i was actually damn happy for you. Hell i wish i had 10000 shares too.

Originally Posted by Jonesey

Letīs be honest... the iPhone 3GS is Pre3 competition, since it too will run iOS5.

I'll be honest. I think the 3GS, the iphone4, and every slick android slab, the evo slider phone, and down the road possibly even WP7. Even in the short term Rim, though i think they are in deep trouble and in this country going in the wrong direction. But there's tons of competition for different reason. Like the 3GS simply because it's cheap. Everything is competition to a Pre 3 in my book. I've tried the other platforms. They are all pretty good.

Right. At the same time, they're selling another product that does much of what people used to buy Macs for.

Yes. Some people call this "cannibalism". The other product seems to be cannibalizing the own computer's sales...

Decreased?

Yes, and strong...

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I Agree. Imagine some people go to; for example, macmagazine and post the Samsung, HP, Google or M$ quarter results...

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yes they it will cannibalize their own sales... but to say that you also have to also take into account that they are also effecting non-mac sales and say that laptop/netbook/pc sales decreases... which are also very strong.

the the whole scope of that... then the decrease in their own line is not as concerning when they are taking away far more from those others.

i mean they say now for new college kids that one out of every 8 is an apple computer. geez.

Originally Posted by Rnp

Yes. Some people call this "cannibalism". The other product seems to be cannibalizing the own computer's sales...

Yes, and strong...

I Agree. Imagine some people go to; for example, macmagazine and post the Samsung, HP, Google or M$ quarter results...

to say that you also have to also take into account that they are also effecting non-mac sales and say that laptop/netbook/pc sales decreases... which are also very strong.

I was waiting exactly this reply! But there is a little bit to see: the macs are decreasing the sales rhythm since before the Apple lauch the IPad...

But in the end, this only show that the Apple devices are the same thing that we find in all other brands, and his users are exactly like all users of other brands... no more, and no less, no better and so bad than... welcome to mortal land!

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I'm not saying that is decreasing, I'm saying that his growth is slowing.

2008 =(2.524.000)=> 2009 =(3.360.000 - 31% )=> 2010 =(4.130.000 - 23%)=> 2011;
in other words, 2009 increased in 31% and 2010 increased in 23 %, but the first post show increased in 14% in this quarter...

Yes, but please read my post above... I was trying to get the point across that the purpose of these forums is to discuss and compare devices, not simply talk about a competing company. The thread can be moved to off-topic of people wish to continue the conversation - that's not a problem. But we want to keep the main forums themselves for device discussions.