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Well Ash's Scraggy was obtained really early, I know Togepi was as well, but Togepi is in it's own class (as in of course it isn't going to evolve with Misty carrying it in her arms category).

Brock's Happiny was obtained fairly early and evolved within the same series.
And Dawn's Cyndaquil being the only who evolved fairly quickly by being caught so late was only because it was the only one of hers who could reasonably evolve.

No, definitely not happy from it. I mean it would just be a ridiculous cheesy thing to happen to cap all of the mid battle evolutions. Even oshawott evolving in that island episode wouldn't be as obvious.

No, definitely not happy from it. I mean it would just be a ridiculous cheesy thing to happen to cap all of the mid battle evolutions. Even oshawott evolving in that island episode wouldn't be as obvious.

First of all, the mid-battle evolution wouldn't be a DEM, especially if it's a double evolution it's impossible. It would just be a sign of how much stronger the two have become and second of all I see absolutely nothing wrong with them evolving in the middle of a battle. Second of all, what's the problem with mid battle evolutions? These things happen all the time, a double evolution has never been done before in the middle of a battle however.

No, definitely not happy from it. I mean it would just be a ridiculous cheesy thing to happen to cap all of the mid battle evolutions. Even oshawott evolving in that island episode wouldn't be as obvious.

It makes sense that they evolve together to show their growth, pretty much everyone wants it or atleast like the idea, I guess you are one of the few and I'm sure one one or two trolls(I'm not calling you troll, I'm say trolls migth join in) might come in and agree that thinks something that makes sense is ridiculous.

Well Oshawott isn't evolving but yes obvious or not it would make sense to see him evolve and beat the Dewott.

Something obvious or foreshadowed doesn't make them ridiculous or bad.

It makes sense that they evolve together to show their growth, pretty much everyone wants it or atleast like the idea, I guess you are one of the few and I'm sure one one or two trolls(I'm not calling you troll, I'm say trolls migth join in) might come in and agree that thinks something that makes sense is ridiculous.

Well Oshawott isn't evolving but yes obvious or not it would make sense to see him evolve and beat the Dewott.

Something obvious or foreshadowed doesn't make them ridiculous or bad.

Yep, exactly and at least we'd get two new evolutions and besides Scrafty and Fraxure are cool Pokemon, anyway. If it does happen, it'd probably be there last battle before saying good bye or something like a serious final battle between the two.

It makes sense that they evolve together to show their growth, pretty much everyone wants it or atleast like the idea, I guess you are one of the few and I'm sure one one or two trolls(I'm not calling you troll, I'm say trolls migth join in) might come in and agree that thinks something that makes sense is ridiculous.

Well Oshawott isn't evolving but yes obvious or not it would make sense to see him evolve and beat the Dewott.

Something obvious or foreshadowed doesn't make them ridiculous or bad.

The only thing is Scraggy has surpassed Axew already... we can't assume Axew's on the same level because it really hasn't done anything lately to prove it

First of all, the mid-battle evolution wouldn't be a DEM, especially if it's a double evolution it's impossible. It would just be a sign of how much stronger the two have become and second of all I see absolutely nothing wrong with them evolving in the middle of a battle. Second of all, what's the problem with mid battle evolutions? These things happen all the time, a double evolution has never been done before in the middle of a battle however.

Actually, it has been done before: Treecko and Loudred in the episode "Exploud and Clear". They both evolved at the same time during a match.

The only thing is Scraggy has surpassed Axew already... we can't assume Axew's on the same level because it really hasn't done anything lately to prove it

Dunno he is getting constant use and I don't know what hapened to Scraggy if it losts its appael to the japanese kids/people or something but the writers just decided not to use it anymore, the starters, Scraggy and Axew were the go to pokemon in random episodes, now Scraggy hasn't appeared or done much, I'm fine with that since the other reserves deserve the time, I just find it odd.

Still that doesn't really matter to me they are keeping Axew and Scraggy at the same level, either we are seeing Axew figthing or not and even if they aren't evolving together would still be fine.

Dunno he is getting constant use and I don't know what hapened to Scraggy if it losts its appael to the japanese kids/people or something but the writers just decided not to use it anymore, the starters, Scraggy and Axew were the go to pokemon in random episodes, now Scraggy hasn't appeared or done much, I'm fine with that since the other reserves deserve the time, I just find it odd.

Still that doesn't really matter to me they are keeping Axew and Scraggy at the same level, either we are seeing Axew figthing or not and even if they aren't evolving together would still be fine.

Axew literally has basically done nothing worthwhile since the middle of bws2, and getting in a scratch on garchomp. At least with scraggy we know about strong it is, or was, and hasn't done anyyhing to show it is still very weak.

Either way, i'd much rathet see axew evolve. One, it will only ever be back for like 5 episodes in the iris cameo while scraggy can come back and battle with ash....and two it would give the chance of it getting to evolve to haxorus in the cameo to give iris something worthwhile unlike dawn.

I personally like the idea of Axew and Scraggy evolving at the same as it shows how far they have come together and would be a fitting goodbye. Plus it would probably be the only changes for Iris and Ash this arc too.

No, definitely not happy from it. I mean it would just be a ridiculous cheesy thing to happen to cap all of the mid battle evolutions. Even oshawott evolving in that island episode wouldn't be as obvious.

If anything, then all the mid-battle evolutions led up to the ironic loss against Cameron.

Originally Posted by Doryuzu

First of all, the mid-battle evolution wouldn't be a DEM, especially if it's a double evolution it's impossible. It would just be a sign of how much stronger the two have become and second of all I see absolutely nothing wrong with them evolving in the middle of a battle. Second of all, what's the problem with mid battle evolutions? These things happen all the time, a double evolution has never been done before in the middle of a battle however.

He never said DEM, he said it would be ridiculously cheesy, which 'the power of friendship' is.. It is the major annoyance with most mid battle evolutions. It also basically proves that Ash barely 'passes' the test, if gymchallenges were seen as tests: Only with the 'power of friendship' and an obvious powerboost can Ash win, where in all other series, he was ready before most challenges. In BW, most, if not all gymchallenges proved that Ash wasn't ready and that only after evolution he could win.

Mid battle evolutions in gyms is what he referred to, as it never happened before Best Wishes, and is what Best Wishes will be remembered for along with the shortest/worst league and the attempt of rotating nine captures.

Originally Posted by Ash&Pikachu-Fan

Yep, exactly and at least we'd get two new evolutions and besides Scrafty and Fraxure are cool Pokemon, anyway. If it does happen, it'd probably be there last battle before saying good bye or something like a serious final battle between the two.

I was just wondering, and there is the Ash vs. Iris episode where they get angry at each other/throw a hissy fit. The 'bond' between Scraggy and Axew might be what reconciles them if they clash with their pokemon. If there was anything better to showcase that bond between these little ones, then they could evolve to showcase that.

Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid

The only thing is Scraggy has surpassed Axew already... we can't assume Axew's on the same level because it really hasn't done anything lately to prove it

We haven't seen them spar in a while, so we can't say that Scraggy is leagues ahead as well. It's not as if Scraggy has any major wins on its belt that set it way above Axew. Beating Simisage (by luck), Simipour, barely beating Vanillish and a Darumaka in the league don't make it a great pokemon.

Odd, I saw it fight Team Plasma only a few weeks ago.. -.-

Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge

Dunno he is getting constant use and I don't know what hapened to Scraggy if it losts its appael to the japanese kids/people or something but the writers just decided not to use it anymore, the starters, Scraggy and Axew were the go to pokemon in random episodes, now Scraggy hasn't appeared or done much, I'm fine with that since the other reserves deserve the time, I just find it odd.

Still that doesn't really matter to me they are keeping Axew and Scraggy at the same level, either we are seeing Axew figthing or not and even if they aren't evolving together would still be fine.

Axew literally has basically done nothing worthwhile since the middle of bws2, and getting in a scratch on garchomp. At least with scraggy we know about strong it is, or was, and hasn't done anything to show it is still very weak.

Either way, i'd much rathet see axew evolve. One, it will only ever be back for like 5 episodes in the iris cameo while scraggy can come back and battle with ash....and two it would give the chance of it getting to evolve to haxorus in the cameo to give iris something worthwhile unlike dawn.

Two things:
- 1. Axew has more recent dealings then Scraggy. Axew foughts against Team Plasma, while Scraggy's last appearance was at the league. Both can easily be depicted to still be equal.
- 2. An Iris cameo is almost confirmed already. However, 'Scraggy can come back and battle with Ash' is far from confirmed. Just look at our hopes for Gible, or whatever other reserve we pictured to return during this arc or whatnot. If Iris comes back to fully evolve her Fraxure in her cameo, then I can see Ash using a possible new Dragon-type, Gible and Scrafty is training partners in a short arc. Gible for Draco Meteor lessons, Scrafty for emotional support and strength training and his own capture so that Ash can benefit from this cameo as well.

Answer to all the bad things in the world: Give up on trying to make everything better. Hence, accepting it for what it is. YOLO! <- Click the link and daw.. -.-

@Locormus~ Axew didn't battle to win a match or anything lately, it battled to stop TP's plot of the day in that episode. That's still 2 more wins (all 4 are more impressive too) then Axew has. All Axew has to it's name is it beat a weaker Scraggy and Luke's Golett (basically cheating; that Outrage was the biggest ***pull I've seen)