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Hi Grant,
On 10/06/2010 06:52 PM, Grant Likely wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:53 AM, Heiko Schocher <hs@denx.de> wrote:>>>> So, the question is, is there a possibility to solve this problem?>>>>>>>> If there is no standard option, what would be with adding a>>>> "scan_phy" file in>>>>>>>> /proc/device-tree/soc\@f0000000/cpm\@119c0/mdio\@10d40>>>> (or better destination?)>>>>>>>> which with we could rescan a PHY with>>>> "echo addr > /proc/device-tree/soc\@f0000000/cpm\@119c0/mdio\@10d40/scan_phy">>>> (so there is no need for using of_find_node_by_path(), as we should>>>> have the associated device node here, and can step through the child>>>> nodes with "for_each_child_of_node(np, child)" and check if reg == addr)>>>>>>>> or shouldn;t be at least, if the phy couldn;t be found when opening>>>> the port, retrigger a scanning, if the phy now is accessible?>>>>>> One option would be to still register a phy_device for each phy>>> described in the device tree, but defer binding a driver to each phy>>> that doesn't respond. Then at of_phy_find_device() time, if it>>>> Maybe I din;t get the trick, but the problem is, that>> you can;t register a phy_device in drivers/of/of_mdio.c>> of_mdiobus_register(), if the phy didn;t respond with the>> phy_id ... and of_phy_find_device() is not (yet) used in fs_enet> > I'm suggesting modifying the phy layer so that it is possible to> register a phy_device that doesn't (yet) respond.>
yes this sounds reasonable.
>>> matches with a phy_device that isn't bound to a driver yet, then>>> re-trigger the binding operation. At which point the phy id can be>>> probed and the correct driver can be chosen. If binding succeeds,>>> then return the phy_device handle. If not, then fail as it currently>>> does.>>>> Wouldn;t it be good, just if we need a PHY (on calling fs_enet_open)>> to look if there is one?>>>> Something like that (not tested):>>>> in drivers/net/fs_enet/fs_enet-main.c in fs_init_phy()>> called from fs_enet_open():>>>> Do first:>> phydev = of_phy_find_device(fep->fpi->phy_node);>>>> Look if there is a driver (phy_dev->drv == NULL ?)>>>> If not, call new function>> of_mdiobus_register_phy(mii_bus, fep->fpi->phy_node)>> see below patch for it.>>>> If this succeeds, all is OK, and we can use this phy,>> else ethernet not work.> > I don't like this approach because it muddies the concept of which> device is actually responsible for managing the phys on the bus. Is> it managed by the mdio bus device or the Ethernet device? It also has> a potential race condition. Whereas triggering a late driver bind> will be safe.> > Alternately, I'd also be okay with a common method to trigger a> reprobe of a particular phy from userspace, but I fear that would be a> significantly more complex solution.> >>>> !!just no idea, how to get mii_bus pointer ...> > You'd have to get the parent of the phy node, and then loop over all> the registered mdio busses looking for a bus that uses that node.>
you say that you don't like the approach to probe the phy again in fs_enet_open,
but currently I don't understand what would be the alternate trigger point to
rescan the mdio bus?
I made a first patch to enhance the phy_device structure and rescan the mdio bus
at time of fs_enet_open (because I didn't see a better trigger point). The
advantage is that we got the mii_bus pointer and the phy addr stored in the
already created phy device structure and is therefore easy to use. See the patch
below for this modifications. Whats currently missing in the patch is to set the
phy_id if the phy was scanned later after phy_device creation. For the mgcoge
board it seems to solve our problem, but maybe I miss something important.
Best regards
Holger Brunck

On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 10:50:50AM +0200, Holger brunck wrote:
> Hi Grant,> > On 10/06/2010 06:52 PM, Grant Likely wrote:> > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:53 AM, Heiko Schocher <hs@denx.de> wrote:> >>>> So, the question is, is there a possibility to solve this problem?> >>>>> >>>> If there is no standard option, what would be with adding a> >>>> "scan_phy" file in> >>>>> >>>> /proc/device-tree/soc\@f0000000/cpm\@119c0/mdio\@10d40> >>>> (or better destination?)> >>>>> >>>> which with we could rescan a PHY with> >>>> "echo addr > /proc/device-tree/soc\@f0000000/cpm\@119c0/mdio\@10d40/scan_phy"> >>>> (so there is no need for using of_find_node_by_path(), as we should> >>>> have the associated device node here, and can step through the child> >>>> nodes with "for_each_child_of_node(np, child)" and check if reg == addr)> >>>>> >>>> or shouldn;t be at least, if the phy couldn;t be found when opening> >>>> the port, retrigger a scanning, if the phy now is accessible?> >>>> >>> One option would be to still register a phy_device for each phy> >>> described in the device tree, but defer binding a driver to each phy> >>> that doesn't respond. Then at of_phy_find_device() time, if it> >>> >> Maybe I din;t get the trick, but the problem is, that> >> you can;t register a phy_device in drivers/of/of_mdio.c> >> of_mdiobus_register(), if the phy didn;t respond with the> >> phy_id ... and of_phy_find_device() is not (yet) used in fs_enet> > > > I'm suggesting modifying the phy layer so that it is possible to> > register a phy_device that doesn't (yet) respond.> > > > yes this sounds reasonable.> > >>> matches with a phy_device that isn't bound to a driver yet, then> >>> re-trigger the binding operation. At which point the phy id can be> >>> probed and the correct driver can be chosen. If binding succeeds,> >>> then return the phy_device handle. If not, then fail as it currently> >>> does.> >>> >> Wouldn;t it be good, just if we need a PHY (on calling fs_enet_open)> >> to look if there is one?> >>> >> Something like that (not tested):> >>> >> in drivers/net/fs_enet/fs_enet-main.c in fs_init_phy()> >> called from fs_enet_open():> >>> >> Do first:> >> phydev = of_phy_find_device(fep->fpi->phy_node);> >>> >> Look if there is a driver (phy_dev->drv == NULL ?)> >>> >> If not, call new function> >> of_mdiobus_register_phy(mii_bus, fep->fpi->phy_node)> >> see below patch for it.> >>> >> If this succeeds, all is OK, and we can use this phy,> >> else ethernet not work.> > > > I don't like this approach because it muddies the concept of which> > device is actually responsible for managing the phys on the bus. Is> > it managed by the mdio bus device or the Ethernet device? It also has> > a potential race condition. Whereas triggering a late driver bind> > will be safe.> > > > Alternately, I'd also be okay with a common method to trigger a> > reprobe of a particular phy from userspace, but I fear that would be a> > significantly more complex solution.> > > >>> >> !!just no idea, how to get mii_bus pointer ...> > > > You'd have to get the parent of the phy node, and then loop over all> > the registered mdio busses looking for a bus that uses that node.> > > > you say that you don't like the approach to probe the phy again in fs_enet_open,> but currently I don't understand what would be the alternate trigger point to> rescan the mdio bus?
Same trigger point, but different operation. At fs_enet_open time,
instead of registering the phy_device, the phy layer could sanity
check the already registered phy_device, and refuse to connect to it
if the phy isn't responding. If it is responding, then it could
re-attempt binding a phy_driver to it (although I just realized that
this has other problems, such as correct module loading. See below)
> I made a first patch to enhance the phy_device structure and rescan the mdio bus> at time of fs_enet_open (because I didn't see a better trigger point). The> advantage is that we got the mii_bus pointer and the phy addr stored in the> already created phy device structure and is therefore easy to use. See the patch> below for this modifications. Whats currently missing in the patch is to set the> phy_id if the phy was scanned later after phy_device creation. For the mgcoge> board it seems to solve our problem, but maybe I miss something important.> > Best regards> Holger Brunck> > diff --git a/drivers/net/fs_enet/fs_enet-main.c b/drivers/net/fs_enet/fs_enet-main.c> index ec2f503..6bc117f 100644> --- a/drivers/net/fs_enet/fs_enet-main.c> +++ b/drivers/net/fs_enet/fs_enet-main.c> @@ -775,7 +774,8 @@ static int fs_enet_open(struct net_device *dev)> {> struct fs_enet_private *fep = netdev_priv(dev);> int r;> - int err;> + int err = 0;> + u32 phy_id = 0;> > /* to initialize the fep->cur_rx,... */> /* not doing this, will cause a crash in fs_enet_rx_napi */> @@ -795,13 +795,23 @@ static int fs_enet_open(struct net_device *dev)> return -EINVAL;> }> > - err = fs_init_phy(dev);> - if (err) {> + if (fep->phydev == NULL)> + err = fs_init_phy(dev);> +> + if (!err && (fep->phydev->available == false))> + r = get_phy_id(fep->phydev->bus, fep->phydev->addr, &phy_id);> +> + if (err || (phy_id == 0xffffffff)) {> free_irq(fep->interrupt, dev);> if (fep->fpi->use_napi)> napi_disable(&fep->napi);> - return err;> + if (err)> + return err;> + else> + return -EINVAL;> }> + else> + fep->phydev->available = true;> phy_start(fep->phydev);> > netif_start_queue(dev);> diff --git a/drivers/net/phy/phy_device.c b/drivers/net/phy/phy_device.c> index adbc0fd..1f443cb 100644> --- a/drivers/net/phy/phy_device.c> +++ b/drivers/net/phy/phy_device.c> @@ -173,6 +173,10 @@ struct phy_device* phy_device_create(struct mii_bus *bus,> int addr, int phy_id)> dev->dev.bus = &mdio_bus_type;> dev->irq = bus->irq != NULL ? bus->irq[addr] : PHY_POLL;> dev_set_name(&dev->dev, PHY_ID_FMT, bus->id, addr);> + if (phy_id == 0xffffffff)> + dev->available = false;> + else> + dev->available = true;
This flag shouldn't be necessary. Just check whether or not
phy_device->phy_id is sane at phy_attach_direct() time. If it is
mostly f's, then don't attach.
> > dev->state = PHY_DOWN;> > @@ -232,13 +236,11 @@ struct phy_device * get_phy_device(struct mii_bus *bus,> int addr)> int r;> > r = get_phy_id(bus, addr, &phy_id);> - if (r)> - return ERR_PTR(r);> > /* If the phy_id is mostly Fs, there is no device there */> - if ((phy_id & 0x1fffffff) == 0x1fffffff)> - return NULL;> -> + if (((phy_id & 0x1fffffff) == 0x1fffffff) || r)> + phy_id = 0xffffffff;> + /* create phy even if the phy is currently not available */> dev = phy_device_create(bus, addr, phy_id);
Cannot do it this way because many phylib users probe the bus for phys
instead of the explicit creation used with the device tree. There
needs to be a method to explicitly skip this test when creating a phy;
possibly by having the device tree code call phy_device_create()
directly.
Hmmm.... I see another problem. Deferred probing of the phy will
potentially cause problems with module loading. If the binding is
deferred to phy connect time; then the phy driver may not have time to
get loaded before the phy layer decides there is no driver and binds
it to the generic one. Blech.
Okay, so it seems like a method of explicitly triggering a phy_device
rebind from userspace is necessary. This could be done with a
per-phy_device sysfs file I suppose. Just an empty file that when
read triggers a re-read of the phy id registers, and retries binding a
driver, including the request_module call in phy_device_create().
> > return dev;> diff --git a/include/linux/phy.h b/include/linux/phy.h> index 6a7eb40..12dc3e4 100644> --- a/include/linux/phy.h> +++ b/include/linux/phy.h> @@ -303,6 +303,9 @@ struct phy_device {> > int link_timeout;> > + /* Flag to support delayed availability */> + bool available;> +> /*> * Interrupt number for this PHY> * -1 means no interrupt>

Hi Grant,
On 10/08/2010 07:06 PM, Grant Likely wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 10:50:50AM +0200, Holger brunck wrote:>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:53 AM, Heiko Schocher <hs@denx.de> wrote:>>>>>> Wouldn;t it be good, just if we need a PHY (on calling fs_enet_open)>>>> to look if there is one?>>>>>>>> Something like that (not tested):>>>>>>>> in drivers/net/fs_enet/fs_enet-main.c in fs_init_phy()>>>> called from fs_enet_open():>>>>>>>> Do first:>>>> phydev = of_phy_find_device(fep->fpi->phy_node);>>>>>>>> Look if there is a driver (phy_dev->drv == NULL ?)>>>>>>>> If not, call new function>>>> of_mdiobus_register_phy(mii_bus, fep->fpi->phy_node)>>>> see below patch for it.>>>>>>>> If this succeeds, all is OK, and we can use this phy,>>>> else ethernet not work.>>>>>> I don't like this approach because it muddies the concept of which>>> device is actually responsible for managing the phys on the bus. Is>>> it managed by the mdio bus device or the Ethernet device? It also has>>> a potential race condition. Whereas triggering a late driver bind>>> will be safe.>>>>>> Alternately, I'd also be okay with a common method to trigger a>>> reprobe of a particular phy from userspace, but I fear that would be a>>> significantly more complex solution.>>>>>>>>>>> !!just no idea, how to get mii_bus pointer ...>>>>>> You'd have to get the parent of the phy node, and then loop over all>>> the registered mdio busses looking for a bus that uses that node.>>>>>>> you say that you don't like the approach to probe the phy again in fs_enet_open,>> but currently I don't understand what would be the alternate trigger point to>> rescan the mdio bus?> > Same trigger point, but different operation. At fs_enet_open time,> instead of registering the phy_device, the phy layer could sanity> check the already registered phy_device, and refuse to connect to it> if the phy isn't responding. If it is responding, then it could> re-attempt binding a phy_driver to it (although I just realized that> this has other problems, such as correct module loading. See below)>
ok.
>> I made a first patch to enhance the phy_device structure and rescan the mdio bus>> at time of fs_enet_open (because I didn't see a better trigger point). The>> advantage is that we got the mii_bus pointer and the phy addr stored in the>> already created phy device structure and is therefore easy to use. See the patch>> below for this modifications. Whats currently missing in the patch is to set the>> phy_id if the phy was scanned later after phy_device creation. For the mgcoge>> board it seems to solve our problem, but maybe I miss something important.>>>> Best regards>> Holger Brunck>>>> diff --git a/drivers/net/fs_enet/fs_enet-main.c b/drivers/net/fs_enet/fs_enet-main.c>> index ec2f503..6bc117f 100644>> --- a/drivers/net/fs_enet/fs_enet-main.c>> +++ b/drivers/net/fs_enet/fs_enet-main.c>> @@ -775,7 +774,8 @@ static int fs_enet_open(struct net_device *dev)>> {>> struct fs_enet_private *fep = netdev_priv(dev);>> int r;>> - int err;>> + int err = 0;>> + u32 phy_id = 0;>>>> /* to initialize the fep->cur_rx,... */>> /* not doing this, will cause a crash in fs_enet_rx_napi */>> @@ -795,13 +795,23 @@ static int fs_enet_open(struct net_device *dev)>> return -EINVAL;>> }>>>> - err = fs_init_phy(dev);>> - if (err) {>> + if (fep->phydev == NULL)>> + err = fs_init_phy(dev);>> +>> + if (!err && (fep->phydev->available == false))>> + r = get_phy_id(fep->phydev->bus, fep->phydev->addr, &phy_id);>> +>> + if (err || (phy_id == 0xffffffff)) {>> free_irq(fep->interrupt, dev);>> if (fep->fpi->use_napi)>> napi_disable(&fep->napi);>> - return err;>> + if (err)>> + return err;>> + else>> + return -EINVAL;>> }>> + else>> + fep->phydev->available = true;>> phy_start(fep->phydev);>>>> netif_start_queue(dev);>> diff --git a/drivers/net/phy/phy_device.c b/drivers/net/phy/phy_device.c>> index adbc0fd..1f443cb 100644>> --- a/drivers/net/phy/phy_device.c>> +++ b/drivers/net/phy/phy_device.c>> @@ -173,6 +173,10 @@ struct phy_device* phy_device_create(struct mii_bus *bus,>> int addr, int phy_id)>> dev->dev.bus = &mdio_bus_type;>> dev->irq = bus->irq != NULL ? bus->irq[addr] : PHY_POLL;>> dev_set_name(&dev->dev, PHY_ID_FMT, bus->id, addr);>> + if (phy_id == 0xffffffff)>> + dev->available = false;>> + else>> + dev->available = true;> > This flag shouldn't be necessary. Just check whether or not> phy_device->phy_id is sane at phy_attach_direct() time. If it is> mostly f's, then don't attach.>
Yes, indeed it is unneeded. Thanks for pointing out.
>>>> dev->state = PHY_DOWN;>>>> @@ -232,13 +236,11 @@ struct phy_device * get_phy_device(struct mii_bus *bus,>> int addr)>> int r;>>>> r = get_phy_id(bus, addr, &phy_id);>> - if (r)>> - return ERR_PTR(r);>>>> /* If the phy_id is mostly Fs, there is no device there */>> - if ((phy_id & 0x1fffffff) == 0x1fffffff)>> - return NULL;>> ->> + if (((phy_id & 0x1fffffff) == 0x1fffffff) || r)>> + phy_id = 0xffffffff;>> + /* create phy even if the phy is currently not available */>> dev = phy_device_create(bus, addr, phy_id);> > Cannot do it this way because many phylib users probe the bus for phys> instead of the explicit creation used with the device tree. There> needs to be a method to explicitly skip this test when creating a phy;> possibly by having the device tree code call phy_device_create()> directly.>
Ah ok, every phy_device_create() call from of_mdiobus_register should skip this
test, because if a phy is described in the dts it is present (sooner or later)
and if phy_device_create is called from somewhere else I do this test as usual.
I adapted my patch accordingly.
> Hmmm.... I see another problem. Deferred probing of the phy will> potentially cause problems with module loading. If the binding is> deferred to phy connect time; then the phy driver may not have time to> get loaded before the phy layer decides there is no driver and binds> it to the generic one. Blech.> > Okay, so it seems like a method of explicitly triggering a phy_device> rebind from userspace is necessary. This could be done with a> per-phy_device sysfs file I suppose. Just an empty file that when> read triggers a re-read of the phy id registers, and retries binding a> driver, including the request_module call in phy_device_create().>
Okay I suspected that there is not an easy solution for our problem. Another
solution comes in my mind. If we defer the call to fs_enet_probe at startup. So
enhance the dts entry with something like an hotplug indication and then trigger
via an sysfs entry the call to fs_enet_probe if the phy is up... Other hotplug
devices should have similar problems...
However for our mgcoge board we can live with the fact that we can't load/unload
the driver dynamically. So I think we will go with this modified "out of tree"
patch for our board. Thanks for your support.
Best regards
Holger Brunck