Edelweiss will soon add 2 A320's to their fleet. MSN2606 & MSN2627 both ex AB are now on Swiss register as HB-JJL & HB-JJM and cabins are currently being reconfigured from AB to WK layout.HB-JJL will go to NWI for painting early march. Expect -JJM to follow shortly after -JJL.

Also, the last 77W for LX is expected to arrive in ZRH at the end of FEB, concluding the 10-strong order for the 77W.

HB-IJF has been positioned to St. Athan, same place as where most Jumbolino's went. Probably for parting out by the lessor.

Edelweiss will soon add 2 A320's to their fleet. MSN2606 & MSN2627 both ex AB are now on Swiss register as HB-JJL & HB-JJM and cabins are currently being reconfigured from AB to WK layout.HB-JJL will go to NWI for painting early march. Expect -JJM to follow shortly after -JJL.

Also, the last 77W for LX is expected to arrive in ZRH at the end of FEB, concluding the 10-strong order for the 77W.

HB-IJF has been positioned to St. Athan, same place as where most Jumbolino's went. Probably for parting out by the lessor.

Months ago, Lorenzo Stoll, SWISS’s operations director for Western-Switzerland said that new long haul flights from Geneva could happen once all B777 would have been delivered, the Geneva “hub” will reach profitability and the new pied would be build. Recent article mentionned that Swiss was close to profitability in Geneva and should reach it in 2018, with all B777 soon introduced, can we expert any new long haul for the 2019 schedule? (Still dreamin’?)

Edelweiss will soon add 2 A320's to their fleet. MSN2606 & MSN2627 both ex AB are now on Swiss register as HB-JJL & HB-JJM and cabins are currently being reconfigured from AB to WK layout.HB-JJL will go to NWI for painting early march. Expect -JJM to follow shortly after -JJL.

Also, the last 77W for LX is expected to arrive in ZRH at the end of FEB, concluding the 10-strong order for the 77W.

HB-IJF has been positioned to St. Athan, same place as where most Jumbolino's went. Probably for parting out by the lessor.

Months ago, Lorenzo Stoll, SWISS’s operations director for Western-Switzerland said that new long haul flights from Geneva could happen once all B777 would have been delivered, the Geneva “hub” will reach profitability and the new pied would be build. Recent article mentionned that Swiss was close to profitability in Geneva and should reach it in 2018, with all B777 soon introduced, can we expert any new long haul for the 2019 schedule? (Still dreamin’?)

Yes, I think you are, waken up . Seriously, any new longhaul flight from GVA would not be a new Swiss destination but double an existing service out of ZRH. Would they really want to dilute their loads on their ZRH flights by introducing additional flights from GVA ? The old SR system with intermediate stops at GVA would immediately be a loss maker and with a B-777 based at GVA, there would again be the crewbase problem with crews dead heading up and down to ZRH. I'll believe it when I see it.

In general I expect Edelweiss to grow quicker than LX, due to no F-class and therefore other markets open up albeit at lower yields. CPT will increase, GIG will increase etc. in 2018, WK will start to DEN,EZE, SZE. HB-JME will join the fleet before the IATA Summer TimeTable-

GVA getting more LX long-hauls might be a dream for enthousiasts, but if conducted it will be a nightmare for LX. I don't see it happening for the coming 5-10years.More C-series I do forecast somewhere down the line, GVA has the potential and the C-series looks to be the right equipment for it.

Also good to see is that most frames leaving the fleet ( Jumbolino's and 320's ) are leased and the replacements are bought aircraft. This is good for the longer term future from my point of view.In 2019 the NEO's will drop in and then LX will have a very modern and strong fleet for years to come.It's too early for the 330 replacements, they are only 10 years old, and it will take some years before a replacement will be announced.

GVA getting more LX long-hauls might be a dream for enthousiasts, but if conducted it will be a nightmare for LX. I don't see it happening for the coming 5-10years.More C-series I do forecast somewhere down the line, GVA has the potential and the C-series looks to be the right equipment for it.

I agree, I believe it is unlikely to happen soon. LX should rather focus on their short and medium haul network from GVA and in parallel build a long haul network with partners such as SQ or NH like they have done with AC and UA. I believe they have JVs with some of them anyway. LX would get some benefits but clearly less headaches.

GVA getting more LX long-hauls might be a dream for enthousiasts, but if conducted it will be a nightmare for LX. I don't see it happening for the coming 5-10years.More C-series I do forecast somewhere down the line, GVA has the potential and the C-series looks to be the right equipment for it.

I agree, I believe it is unlikely to happen soon. LX should rather focus on their short and medium haul network from GVA and in parallel build a long haul network with partners such as SQ or NH like they have done with AC and UA. I believe they have JVs with some of them anyway. LX would get some benefits but clearly less headaches.

I have to agree with you too, unfortunately. Whatever additional l/h flights GVA will get in the future, they will be by foreign airlines. LX will, at the best, have a JV but we may dream as long as we like, LX has no interest at all in operating l/h flights from GVA with their own metal ( besides the JFK flight ).

It was reported that easyJet will be terminating GVA-BEG however they loaded the summer schedule today. Flights will be operated three times per week with an A320.

Air Serbia has annonced to open this route a few months ago but it has disappeared a couple of weeks ago from their reservations website. Maybe, that's why EZS is back on this market !

easyJet never said they were discontinuing the route, those were speculations because they took too long to load the flights. JU delayed the launch of GVA because of extra demand for charter flights and because they retired two B733s. That said, JU rarely fights for a market so I am sure they will give up completely on GVA.

Swiss will do the refurbishment of their A340 between spring and summer '18 according to their in-flight magazin. The product will be the same like the B777 fleet.

Skywork is opening a new link between BRN and GRS 2/w (Grosseto, Italy). According to wikipedia, it will be the only commercial service from/to Grosseto which is first, a military field. GRS is a mid stop to their link to the island of Elba.

Skywork will add a single Embraer ERJ-170 to support high leisure demand from Bern this summer. Destinations are PMI, SPU, ...

Prevously annonced, the new service between GVA and ADD via MXP by ET will be served with a B772 LR instead of a 787.

Swiss will remove snacks and beverages for passengers with Economy Light tickets in short-haul flights. A bottle of water and the traditionnal chocolate will still be provided.This cut concerns GVA flights only... for the moment. Reason: Swiss is loosing money in Geneva.

Swiss will remove snacks and beverages for passengers with Economy Light tickets in short-haul flights. A bottle of water and the traditionnal chocolate will still be provided.This cut concerns GVA flights only... for the moment. Reason: Swiss is loosing money in Geneva.

Geneva serves as LH groups laboratory for changes. No reason this won’t extend to the rest of LH group sometime later in the year.

Apparently Swiss will explain this in more detail on Thursday but it could also be that anything more substantial (eg sandwiches) will now also be for sale regardless of type of ticket.

I fully agree. I don't think that not serving snacks and drink to Economy Light passengers will save them much money. Rather than trying to have the same service than EasyJet, they should distance themselves and actually improve their service and charge more. GVA has one of the highest yield in Europe, even higher than Zurich on many routes.

In today's AGEFI ( local business newspaper, article in French only ) ) the Swiss CEO again mentions the the possibility of Eurowing taking over GVA operations and apparently plans to reduce the number of destinations to 30. At the same time, available capacity semms to be used to increase frequencies on some existing routes. Looks to me as GVA Reload project is in serious difficulties, although I doubt Eurowings would be more successful at GVA. I don't think that local people would welcome this change, at least LX is Swiss by name while EW would be considered some unknown, foreign airline without any cultural attachment to Switzerland and GVA in particular and probably without French speaking crews. If they really take over, I wonder if the JFK flight would also be transferred to EW as a single LX flight, even longhaul, would cause additional costs with crew DHD to ZRH etc.

My guess is that Eurowings has lower costs so they hope to at least reduce losses in case they don't manage to make a profit. It's really impressive how strong easyJet is in Geneva. I knew LX was struggling but I didn't know it was this bad. All these changes indicate that LH Group doesn't really know how to position themselves there so they are trying whatever they can. I fear all these changes are only working in easyJet's favour.

It is actually not that bad for LX. They are indeed losing money but less than anticipated so far this year according to some press articles over the weekend. Including the NYC flight, I believe they should be around breakeven. The Eurowings strategy would be a failure here. Same service than EasyJet but totally unknown, LH Group would lose even more money than today in Geneva for sure.

It is actually not that bad for LX. They are indeed losing money but less than anticipated so far this year according to some press articles over the weekend. Including the NYC flight, I believe they should be around breakeven. The Eurowings strategy would be a failure here. Same service than EasyJet but totally unknown, LH Group would lose even more money than today in Geneva for sure.

I wonder if they are losing less money because of improved sales or because they cut most of the heavily loss-making routes.

I can't help thinking that the decision in favour of Eurowing has already been made. There was no real reason to raise the subject of Eurowings again, so it seems to me that after a long silence, this new interview is simply meant to gradually prepare the public opinion and their staff of a coming change. And, as Xorrygva wrote, I'm convinced that the Eurowings strategy would totally fail at GVA and leave the door wide open for Easyjet.

Dropping the tiny sandwich will not saveLX operations at GVA, they can not compete with Easyjet. They must concentrate on high yield and niche markets (Moscow, TLV, maybe BEY and other destinations) complementing their ZRH hub. Feeding into and from their code shared flights with the likes of SN and other star alliance partners operating into GVA.