eForms soon to be back up/paper forms getting faster

Here's a letter sent to eForms users from ATF Deputy Assistant Director Richardson.

My take-away from this is that they really are trying to provide better customer service.

Aaron

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pjeski

April 17, 2014, 05:57 PM

It's up.

Aaron Baker

April 17, 2014, 06:16 PM

Perhaps, but according to the letter, only for Form 6 processing right now, with the rest of the forms to be phased back in over the next few weeks.

They're also hiring 15 new people for NFA processing and cross-training an additional 15 more people. In the last 30 days, they've reduced the backlog by 8%, from 80,000 to 73,700 applications. That may not sound like much, but that's pretty significant.

Aaron

pjeski

April 17, 2014, 06:25 PM

Ah crap. Missed that paragraph. Haven't tried to log in. Does it at least show the status of filed forms?

Arizona_Mike

April 17, 2014, 06:28 PM

You beat me too it Aaron.

This is good news for both my 3rd eForm1 and my paper Form1 from Nov.

Mike

pjeski

April 17, 2014, 06:30 PM

I just tried to log in. Unavailable.

But really, the letter is encouraging.

pjeski

April 17, 2014, 06:38 PM

I did log in and it shows my form 1. So that's something.

pjeski

April 17, 2014, 08:32 PM

I know of two people that were able to submit drafts, even though new forms 1 & 4 can't be created.

Gtscotty

April 18, 2014, 12:56 AM

That certainly is a very positive letter, lots of stuff in there to like. An 8% reduction in backlog over 26 days is probably the best news. I wonder how long the planned "short term" timeline for the return of e-form 3's and 4's will be?

The letter kind of makes you wonder whether it would be better to wait for E-form 4's to come back online or go ahead and put in paper forms...

Thanks for posting!

Rimfaxe

April 24, 2014, 02:00 PM

Form 4 submitted in September, 2013 went pending in November 2013. Based on a status inquiry call today, I was told late August/September time frame to get the stamp. That's about one year for a paper filed trust form 4.

Needless to say, this is horrible. Processing times are purposely inefficient for political reasons. Rights delayed are rights denied.

I hope one day they move the AT to the Treasury Dept and the E to the FBI and the F to the states where it belongs.

Arizona_Mike

April 24, 2014, 03:04 PM

Form 4 submitted in September, 2013 went pending in November 2013. Based on a status inquiry call today, I was told late August/September time frame to get the stamp. That's about one year for a paper filed trust form 4.

Needless to say, this is horrible. Processing times are purposely inefficient for political reasons. Rights delayed are rights denied.

I hope one day they move the AT to the Treasury Dept and the E to the FBI and the F to the states where it belongs.
They tend to give estimated dates on the long side so as not to disappoint. Right now they are running about 210 days (and falling rapidly) from check cashed to stamp approval on paper forms.

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Mike

Ingsoc75

April 26, 2014, 08:28 AM

So let me get this straight.

You can e-file if you go the trust route but not if you go the traditional route?

If this is true, then why? Why not just change everything over to e-file?

Aaron Baker

April 26, 2014, 08:30 AM

Because you can't efile fingerprints, photographs and a CLEO signature. Individuals have to submit those and trusts (currently) don't.

Aaron

Gtscotty

April 26, 2014, 01:13 PM

That does sort of raise the question of why you can't eFile finger prints, pictures and signatures... The DOD scans finger prints, and pictures, and uses adobe e-signatures, why can't the ATF? I remember when I was getting my sign off the sheriff's office scanned in all my finger prints and then printed them out... Might as well keep them electronically and let us send them in that way.

The whole point is to harass the law abiding gun owner, ans suppress your second amendment rights. If it wasn't, why would then ever need more than one set of fingerprints and photos at intervals shorter than you DMV?

Rimfaxe

April 27, 2014, 08:13 PM

The whole point is to harass the law abiding gun owner, ans suppress your second amendment rights. If it wasn't, why would then ever need more than one set of fingerprints and photos at intervals shorter than you DMV?
This is very true. Other than the arcane NFA of 1934, there is really no reason to regulate SBR and supressors any differently than other firearms. Since this law remains on the books, they try to make it as painful as possible for law abiding citizens to legally own the same equipment that exists in every civilian police department in the country.

If they would remove these items from registration, it would address the issue and break the log jam.

I hope this is done in my lifetime.

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