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... the ... as Alibaba I'd years after an initial public offering ... its face with a big challenge ... how to deal with can I think it's in China ... this is Asia's today and unique in ... joining me to discuss the story is journalists Ally technology correspondent here and honk on ... Jerry been covering Alibaba very closely for some low cost us a little bit about how big a problem counterfeiting is in China ... it's it's it's a baby and according to a study by the United Nations came early this year ... Santa ... was the source of about two thirds of all of the ... counterfeit goods overseas around the world ... and I it's not just that in online or offline become what our stores ... it's maybe both ... and of the Proms ... that people find sometimes on how well will ... know they ... they could be listed online ... of those early part of the broader issue that the whole country faces ... topped with a little bit about how Alibaba is involved in office for most piercing don't understand Alibaba's business model ... right ... so I've eBay is China's biggest e-commerce company but it doesn't sell products it felt like Amazon bounce but instead he runs websites like how well ... it's come close ... a lot of sellers to ... do so and it is new projects and I'm ... so it's really the platform that provides ... so sometimes at some sellers to counterfeit goods on its websites and ... right now in the bar has a system to take down some of the products when Brown's report added the bought about ... you know fate is being sold ... and also it has some ice cream for screening mechanism for ... of ... those listed goods ... in the camp invested if they have certain keywords ... that SOEs often used to describe counterfeit goods by ... for the most foreign now that's how they deal with it and ... they also up ... to launch the new websites ... in two thousand and eight and it became kind of independent from ... Cabo in two thousand and eleven called team all which is that different site for Brantes unauthorized sellers ... and and they opened stores on this website ... and this is to try to make a sale ... of heresy free zone ... so that ... they do a screening for ... Brown's before they become open their stores on the side ... so that's how they are currently dealing with the she writes of these are some of the specific steps that they've taken ... to ... remedy this problem in time out but I would imagine that ... a lot of Chinese Internet companies are faced with the same type of issues as well ... but ... so broad a stew of aam but counterfeiting is local but online fraud ... scams ... so recently and ... the group of Internet companies and about twenty twenty one companies into and out of the above ... they ... decided to team up and and exchange information ... collaborate ... on in the hope that the with those issues as well okay ... now is this becoming a problem as the company's preparing for this and really big IPO a lot of people are talking about the company raising money ... it's a list ... of why is it a specific issue now ... Oahu ... in IPO ... is there for me I know raising a lot of interest in Alibaba a lot of people it been in the key under the bonnet and its business ... because those are interested in the IPO which is ... right ... you know expected to be one of the biggest IPO's ... by any company ... anti ... counterfeiting because it's in one of the big challenges that face this ... but it's a chance that we'll be around for long time that system when ... denied IPO could happen in a bankruptcy could happen this year next year ... but this issue of counterfeiting ... funny Bobo and four in China in general ... will be a much longer term issue that do you ... okay thanks Fran much Juro Salah ... joining us from Hong Kong ... for more on this story to go to Des beest dot com I'm unique in for the last two channel digital network thanks for watching ...