All Discussions Tagged 'oregon' - Think Atheist2016-12-09T17:57:03Zhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/forum/topic/listForTag?tag=oregon&feed=yes&xn_auth=noTen dead and seven wounded in "no gun zone."tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2015-10-01:1982180:Topic:15524732015-10-01T21:51:30.492ZUnseenhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/Unseen
<p>"Well, how's that 'no gun' thing going for ya?"</p>
<p>By latest count, ten have been killed and seven wounded according to the latest news reports. Read about it <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/01/us/oregon-college-shooting/index.html" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p>Maybe we should discuss why someone who wants to kill mucho people might (a) disobey the no-guns campus rule and (b) why a no-guns location is a tempting "soft target" for a terrorist or a man with a gun and mayhem on his…</p>
<p>"Well, how's that 'no gun' thing going for ya?"</p>
<p>By latest count, ten have been killed and seven wounded according to the latest news reports. Read about it <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/01/us/oregon-college-shooting/index.html" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p>Maybe we should discuss why someone who wants to kill mucho people might (a) disobey the no-guns campus rule and (b) why a no-guns location is a tempting "soft target" for a terrorist or a man with a gun and mayhem on his mind. </p>
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</p> Atheists chip in for Churchtag:www.thinkatheist.com,2011-06-16:1982180:Topic:7070262011-06-16T06:42:11.602ZRyan E. Hoffmanhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/RyanEHoffman
<p>This has really got me fired up. <a href="http://www.ktvz.com/news/28251185/detail.html">http://www.ktvz.com/news/28251185/detail.html</a></p>
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<p>BEND, Ore. -- To most people, there is nothing humorous about crime, or religious beliefs. But a group with a name many would find amusing is very serious about helping two churches vandalized in its name. Word of Sunday night's tagging spread to Pastafarian members with the Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster and atheists across the…</p>
<p>This has really got me fired up. <a href="http://www.ktvz.com/news/28251185/detail.html">http://www.ktvz.com/news/28251185/detail.html</a>
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<p>BEND, Ore. -- To most people, there is nothing humorous about crime, or religious beliefs. But a group with a name many would find amusing is very serious about helping two churches vandalized in its name.
Word of Sunday night's tagging spread to Pastafarian members with the Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster and atheists across the country.<br />
One of them decided to do something about it - from halfway across the country.<br />
"You know, when I saw this church get vandalized and someone did it, I guess through atheism or Pastafarianism, I just figured the church, even though they are wrong and even though I disagree with their beliefs, they didn't deserve this," atheist Hemant Mehta said Wednesday. "So I think a lot of readers on my site would agree with this, so I asked them if they would consider chipping in."<br />
Hemant Mehta, who goes by "the friendly atheist," created a church cleanup donation fund online from his home in Chicago.<br />
In less than 24 hours, it's already raised nearly $3,000.<br />
His message: This isn't about giving money to a church, it's about righting a wrong.<br />
"This isn't about what they believe and what we believe. Nno one is advocating this," Mehta said. "I don't know who did this, and I hope that whoever did it is caught. But in the meantime, this is the least that anyone can do to just help this church."<br />
Reactions in the non-theist community have ranged from applause to gasps of dismay.<br />
But local churches say that believers or non-believers, the support from the community has been overwhelming.<br />
"You see people who maybe have very different belief systems, and yet come together and realize we are all human." said Mike Alexander with the Westside Church. "And even in this local community of Bend, in the last several hours raise up and do the same thing."<br />
Christian Life Center already has completed most of the clean-up, and the writing on the wall is nearly gone.<br />
Pastor John Bluebaugh said though they wont have much need for the money, we need to learn a lesson.<br />
"It's a good lesson for us to understand that not everyone that adheres to a faith or a belief system is extreme like that and would do something like this," Bluebaugh said Wednesday.<br />
Deschutes County Sheriff's deputies said the vandals could be charged with criminal mischief and intimidation. Both misdemeanor crimes that come with possible jail time and fines up to $2,500<br />
If you have information, call the Crime Stoppers tip line at 1-877-876-TIPS.<br />
You can remain anonymous, and you may be eligible for a cash reward.<br />
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<p>This Church actively promotes theocracy, evolution denial, and Bible literalism (read homophobia), and all the other wonderful selective text reading that comes along with Evangelicals. Do I condone the vandalism? No. I don't. However, they're not victims. They're a business. They have insurance. They are part of a church that's part of a billion dollar political machine that is working to blur the lines between church and state constantly, and holds a massive supermajority in this country. I think it was wrong to do this collection, even if the spillover from the cost of the cleanup, goes to a secular foundation. Condemnation of the act is enough and is way more than any of them would ever do if the shoe were on the other foot. </p>
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<p>Another thing, I'm getting tired of people making grand gestures on behalf of atheists. I don't want to support that church for the reasons I stated above. I'm not sorry they got vandalized. They preach exclusionary, hateful messages every Sunday. Don't take up a collection as though it's the morally right thing to do, when in truth, it's quite ambiguous, and then offer it on behalf of atheists. That ticks me off.</p>