and I agree with that statement, especially with Datsyuk. But look at the current retired numbers and their resumes.

Production Line I/II, Sawchuk, Yzerman and Lidstrom. Datsyuk doesn't have the resume of any of those players and I don't think it's realistic to expect him to get there, either. Not hating on the guy at all, but I just do not see him as an equal to any of those other greats.

To be fair, Pavel and Henrik don't have the super teams that the others you mentioned did. I'm pretty sure that cannot be disputed. Obviously the players you mentioned were great, but they had a lot of help with all of those wins and titles.

I love football, but I have to say that the college football postseason is a pile of steaming garbage. I watch one bowl game a year and that is Michigan's. If they aren't playing, I don't watch a single bowl game. I don't even check to see what happens in the games or the scores. I just don't care at all because the system sucks so horribly. I'm not even excited about the four team playoff because four teams doesn't really constitute a playoff to me. If they ever go to an eight team playoff, then I'll get excited.

As a lifelong golfer, I couldn't agree more on Tiger. The things he has accomplished in the game is remarkable. Not to mention he's doing it against far deeper fields than what Jack had to compete against. I think people grossly underestimate the talent on Tour and how hard it is to win 1 tournament, or 1 major, let alone 79 tournaments and 14 majors.

I dislike it when Ace fills in for Brian for one of his regular scheduled columns and does the same exact bits as him. For example, "fake 40 time" in the recruiting profiles or "Cackle with knowing glee" in the game previews. Brian has a very special writing style and I feel like only he can enlighten us with humor and insight with these very specific insights.

Ace is a great writer so I wish he would format these type of columns with his own bit, plus it would help with confusion as I often think Brian is writing something Ace wrote.

Buckeyes fan. I'm glad the Spartans won, since I was sure that FSU would have killed OSU. And I admire how Michigan State has built their team. OSU has great recruits, but their defense sucks. That is the fault of coaching.

I don't trust Meyer. To me he is still the coach that beat the Bucks in 2007.

1. Dave Brandon is a running joke, but he's been doing an awesome job minus one or two things.

2. Only uniform I didn't like was @MSU.

3. Borges might be a problem. But I think inexperience and lack of execution is a bigger problem. I'll wait another year to pass judgment because I think continuity is an advantage for a senior QB and players who are coming into their own. We can be good next year.

4. I would mind advertising IN the stadium. Don't do it.

An original thought:

I think Kate Upton is THE least attractive SI girl (though still attractive).

The fan in me that grew up with the original films (Wrath Of Khan was the first movie my parents took me to see, and I was 4) took over and just couldn't stand it. It wasn't exactly a rational response, but I couldn't reconcile myself with this version of events. Perhaps that's just me.

I can understand that response. I took it as a cool way to say that events may happen differently but certain things or characters will be the same, though I didn't grow up on it as much. I got into Star Trek later in life.

Anything that even sounds like rap does not qualify as music. It's nothing more than bad poetry with overly loud and annoying bass sounds behind it. Every time I hear rap on the radio, TV, from car stereo's, at the Big House, or in another public location, my head feels like it's going to explode.

Mike Valenti and Doug Karsch would be one of the best sports talk radio combos in the country. Unfortunately, then you would have Gator and Terry making fart noises with their mouths and talking about down river girls

Based on what?! Trey has played, what, 20some games in the NBA? How can you say he is overrated already? PEPPERS?! How the hell can you expect a high school senior to be a bust already? Again, based on what?

just for this thread but decided against it. I have so many opinions about a great many things, some so unpopular around here that several of your faces would melt clean off of your skulls in disgust. Yet many of you would agree with me if you only dared to admit it.

I think Lloyd Carr is singlehandedly responsible for driving Michigan's team into the ground. Jim Tressel owned him, he stepped down after a horrible recruiting year, had a say in who would be hired next, and handcuffed RichRod after his hiring. Our struggles didn't start when RichRod got hired, they started long before that, and had Lloyd Carr not stepped down, I think he would have been fired eventually.

Devin Funchess should be moved to WR and Jake Butt should be full-time at TE next year.

College football will see it's first female head football coach by 2050.

LeBron James will one day own Michael Jordan's records.

Johnny Manziel wouldn't have won the Heisman if he had been allowed to talk to the press before the season ended.

And I happen to think its quite mindful, even if the thoughts that went into it happened a long time ago. People I think are appalled at what happened to Service members during and after Vietnam and have vowed not to let that happen again.

Like I said, not going to argue with you, but wanted to understand why you feel this way.

To list all the reasons would veer into the verboten land of politics and, like you, I in no way wish to argue with anyone. It's just, like, my opinion, man. But suffice it to say, I am not a fan of aggressive violence and the nonsense used to justify it.

My very popular Coen brothers movie that I'm not a fan of is Fargo. It was the first I saw, and maybe I didn't get it yet, but even upon rewatching it just didn't do it for me like the rest of Coen brothers movies do.

Hops are one of beer's 4 main ingredients and big part in the overall flavor of the beer. Hoppyness is a big focus of lots of beers, including the now very popular American Pale Ale.

"Craft" beer just mean's it's not the rice-infused swill that comes out by the gallon from Bud and Miller plants all over the country. Describing the various types of craft brews, that's another story.

This is the point I was getting at. American Pale Ales, IPAs, pilsners, and so on that are just crammed full of hops. I am a big fan of the craft beer movement (I buy craft beers pretty much exclusively), but it sometimes seems like craft brewers are in some kind of hops arms race to see how much hops they can use and how many IPAs they can make.

I much prefer lagers, wheat beers, porters, and other styles that don't emphasize hops.

I absolutely cannot stand it when people wax nostalgia of times long past and bemoan the current state of things. Prime example: "The current generation sucks and there is no hope for the human race." Get the hell out.

On a related note, people who dislike something just because it's popular drive me crazy. Somewhat paradoxically, I myself have been that person sometimes.

Michigan is at a disadvantage in recruiting because the school is full of "smart people" and not enough "regular" people. Which i'm okay with as Michigan respresents excellence and should be proud of that. It just means the pool of recruits is smaller.

Call of Duty is a sub-par FPS that leaves out real FPS skill (recoil control, etc.) in order to appeal from the masses. Its filled with trolls and campers and people apparently unaware that team play is, in fact, something people are interested in.

Warm climates are overrated. I don't think a place is an awesome place to visit or live just because it's got beaches and sun. I enjoy the beach but I don't consider it the ultimate vacation destination. Warm winter weather means obnoxiously sweltering summer weather and boring seasonal changes. There's nothing glamorous about Miami or Florida in general and I would be miserable living in LA or its environs.

For my part, while I do occasionally log in to defend Michigan students against criticism, I really don't like most Michigan students.

In my experience, a vast majority (not surprisingly) are extremely spoiled and "look down" on everyone else, even other students at Michigan. This applies to them in a sports sense, too. There is little loyalty to the school amongst an alarming proportion of students. The most disappointing are the band students I have talked to this year. Half way through the season, they were hoping we would lose out so that they wouldn't have to travel to a bowl game. Yikes.

Small things reinforce this opinion on a daily basis -- such as kids leaving every plate, cup, napkin, etc. from a meal sitting at their table instead of taking the extra minute to put it on the dish room belt. After awhile, that kind of stuff gets infuriating.

Yeah, you're right, and I apologize if that comment read in a very negative way. I don't like stereotypes/generalizations either, so hopefully it didn't across as too aggressive an opinion - really it's just based off of "general" observations in my 4.5 years here. I have met tons of wonderful people here and it's been an invaluable experience regardless of the downers here and there (though I did use the word "most" regarding M students...perhaps I shouldn't have been so severe).

Nobody is perfect, but I just wish some people would possess a bit more humility/decency at times. Plus, the thread demanded I confess. It's not like I had a choice, you know.

EDIT: I also should have explained my OP a bit more in depth, but who cares.

I would get rid of overtime for any non-playoff game in any sport. The games are long enough already, tired players are more likely to get hurt, and if you can't beat these other jokers in 60 minutes (9 innings, 48 minutes, 90 minutes, etc) you don't deserve to win.

I also hated the term "deathbacker". It sounded like something out of a bad Jack Black movie.

one of the 10 best movies of all time. Adam Sandler and Will Ferrell WERE funny once. Springsteen and Dylan can't sing and haven't been relevant in 30 years. U2 sucks (other than the WAR album). NO one ever rocked harder than Spinal Tap!

While I enjoy watching Michigan basketball, largely I feel that the level of play in college basketball is borderline unwatchable. I'd much rather take my talents to South Beach and watch some NBA action.

Had to respond just because of #7. Yes, all the way. The patties aren't as greasy (though I sometimes like the grease), the vegetable toppings are crisp, the buns (usually) aren't soggy... what more could you want (from uber cheap food)?

I'm from Chicago, I just hate deep dish pizza. Especially Lou Malnati's. Their deep dish bites and their thin crust is worse. I much prefer Giordano's to Lou's for both thin and thick. Rosati's thin is my favorite though.

I pity those who don't read the Game of Thrones (or rather, ASOIAF) book series. If you think the show is detailed, you'd be amazed at the complexity of the books. It's just an all-around excellent series, IMHO.

The level of detail actually is what turned me off to the books, it was suffocating. I got halfway through the second one and just couldn't keep up with or care which characters were still alive. Now I also got tired of the TV show so I'm consistent on not caring about that world I guess.

Black Betty is a fucking shit-ass song and you're right, the first 30 seconds come on and I'm like, cool, and then 10 seconds later I think, what am I doing??? this is Black Betty, it's the worst song on the radio. (Well, on the stations I listen to.)

The way you think about Bob Dylan, I think about Lenny Kravitz. I think Lenny Kravitz is the guy white preppy people listen to in order to claim a multicultural interest in music. Especially back in the 90s.

As much as it pains me that they're celebrating a win against us, occassionally I watch the Sparty locker room celebration with Dantonio dancing to "Some Type of Way" after they beat us this year because it is pretty hilarious to me. Maybe I'm like Crowpuppy and this is more of an admission than an opinon, but screw it.

All contemporary music sucks, and by contemporary I'm narrowing it down to pop music: Katy Perry/Miley Cyrus/Taylor Swift, boy bands, dubstep, Nicki Minaj and anyone who sounds like her, and anyone who's won a Grammy in the past six years. If you disagree with me, let's talk in 15 or so years, when you won't remember one song you listened to 15 years earlier.

- I like a lot of Lady Gaga's music and think she's got some serious talent

- Sparty's fight song is certainly no Victors but it's still a pretty snappy tune. *

* - Not so much with OSU. Dude next to me at the office has the OSU band's 'Hang On Sloppy' (sic) as his cell ringtone, and it's starting to grate on me. To the point where I want to alienate half my Facebook feed by posting something bitterly snarky about how classically Ohio it is to use as their unofficial song an off-tune paean about a low-class piece of trailer trash.

I'm actually happy we're going to the BWW bowl with an evenly matched opponent. I've been a Michigan fan for 10 years and I've only seen Michigan win only two bowls in that stretch. We are 7-5 what did you expect? Enjoy it for what it is. A rare chance at a bowl victory and a way to wrap up the season on a positive note.

I think Grant Hill had an overrated career. A couple of years ago I'm mentioned this on the board and had my comment vaporized by neg-votes. Therefore I feel compelled to mention this again on the apparent eve of the return of the neg-vote.

Living in Michigan is actually pretty cool. We don't have to deal with ridiculous weather, have bad pest problems, it's not too hot (but it's cold), and no earthquakes. It's pretty sheltered over here.

This thread reminds me of that scene in "Almost Famous" when the band's plane is going down and everyone screams out their most personal - and damning - confessions and then the pilot suddenly rights the plane, leaving everyone sitting there awkwardly, having just confessed to affairs and being gay (although that word stood out to me because I dont know if "gay" was used that much in the 70's).

2. I'd be happy if the southeastern portion of the US got donated to Mexico or something. There'd be some initial confusion about the use of the word "football," but America gets some quality addition by subtraction.

Lloyd Carr is an overrated luddite when it comes to football strategy and coaching staff construction. The sooner the Michigan leadership moves on from his beliefs and his coaching tree, the more successful Michigan football will be.

Love him as a scholar, a gentleman, and a fundraiser, but his Macchiavellian influence on the program is holding us back.

Read below about M-Wolverine. Someday I'll post my (respectful) email to Brian about reinstating M-Wolverine. Best poster here. I'd upvote you to my heart's delight if you hadn't said Big Lebowski is just ok. (Although you could've said you skip the drug trip scenes and I'd understand.)

I actually lean towards believing this conspiracy theory. The conspiracy theory isn't that Wilkes-Booth didn't kill Abe Lincoln - that is not a debate. There is a good theory out there that John Wilkes-Booth didn't actually die soon after getting shot by law enforcement in a barn. That was actually someone else. Wilkes-Booth lived and died until the late 19th century.

I think I see where Borges is headed, I kind of see why he called things the way he did, and I hope he sticks around because I think the end product will be great.

Despite that support for Borges, I liked watching RRod's offense and I just wish the Michigan powers-that-be focussed on pressuring RRod to place a handpicked defensive coordinator who would be free to call his own defenses rather than how it went down, because I think watching RRod and UMeyer playing Spread-chess would have been amazingly cool.

I'm glad OSU lost, obviously. But I hope that Ohio and Sparty win big in their bowl games because I think in this day-and-age, you can't have a very successful program without being in a very successful conference. So conference loyalty has become nearly as important as team loyalty for me.

I think the song could have been fine but it's literally the worst percussion part in this history of music. It's what would happen if you let a 5th grader play what he wants. A really lousy 5th grader.

I like Tina Turners music.. that raspy voice grabs me and forces me to suspend the scan feature on my radio.

Mike Valenti is right on majority of topics but I think they intentionally screen out knowledgeable and realistic Michigan fans...

People who advertise how far they run with stickers in the rear windows of their cars are the most useless people around.... I am not discrediting people who enjoy running.. I have buddies who do iron man triathlons and you wouldn't know it by looking at the rear of their car. I just believe there is scientific proof that people who openly advertise how far and how much they enjoy running exhibit the most fraudulent characteristics in the human species.

I can't upvote (yet) so just consider this my personal statement of endorsement for the following:

"People who advertise how far they run with stickers in the rear windows of their cars are the most useless people around.... I am not discrediting people who enjoy running.. I have buddies who do iron man triathlons and you wouldn't know it by looking at the rear of their car. I just believe there is scientific proof that people who openly advertise how far and how much they enjoy running exhibit the most fraudulent characteristics in the human species."

I agree with most of the above, especially the notion that Sam Adams is craft beer, and the underreated qualities of the fillet o fish.

But if you think one player, even of the Woodson caliber, is respnosible for elevating a good team to national title winner, you are crazy. Woodson was a great player on a great defense, which was accompanied by an above-average offense. Put Law or Hall in there for Woodson, and they would have still won the title.

I don't like pets. Dogs smell bad and lick your face after licking poo.
Quinoa is delicious but I feel guilty for ruining the ancient Andean diet (they sell their quinoa at a profit and then eat junk food).
Lots of parents make bad choices for their kids, but I, of course, do not.
Too many people worship the cult of Bo and we need to get past that.

I'm from Cailfornia and I hate In-n-out. The fries taste like styrofoam and the burgers are worse than McDonalds'.

I pee sitting down and don't get what the big deal is--sitting is more comfortable, i don't have to aim, there's no mess, and there's no splatter.

I don't like chocolate.

I don't acquire tastes, the concept of eating/drinking somethign disugsting until it tastes good is just stupid to me. Beer is disgusting, all other alcohol that isn't masked by sugar is disgusting, coffee is disgusting.

I don't like any pro sports, they have no heart and no soul.

I'm glad I'm allergic to cats and dogs, it gives me an excuse to not have pets which I feel are dirty, expensive, and needy.

Smart phones are a waste of money.

I always root for MSU and OSU when theyre playing out of conference. ND i want to go winless every year.

And now, since political and religious ones seem allowed (feel free to delete if not), for the most inflammatory ones:

All Democrats are idiots who want to steal the money I work hard for and give it to people who are too stupid and lazy to take care of themselves.

All welfare should be abolished, people who can't support themselves should be forced into the military and chain gangs.

Technology permitting, everyone should be sterilized at birth and only have the process undone once you've proven you can and will take care of a kid.

Everyone who believes in god is a delusional child who is as foolish as someone who thinks Santa exists.