If only KOTH had any time to create a proper ending, at the very least...

...they did, didn't they?

My understanding was that the last 4 episodes of the show were produced with them knowing they'd be the last 4 episodes, and as such 'To Sirloin with Love' was created as a finale. It doesn't 'end things', but there's no need to. It wraps things up nicely in the same way that 'The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings', 'Into the Wild Green Yonder' and 'Overclockwise' do. Hank and Bobby finally connect properly, all the residents of the street come together for a big barbeque at the end, etc.

Personally, I think the last few episodes ought to involve lots of major characters getting killed. Final episode, it's revealed the cause behind the carnage is Stewie, and he finally takes over the world. It's what he's wanted from the very beginning.

That's kinda dark and doesn't leave room for new seasons or a movie, but hey.

I feel like Stewie Kills Lois and Lois Kills Stewie could have been a really good two-part series finale (or hour-long series finale or whatever) if they just took out the part at the end where it turns out it was just a simulation.

You know, I never watched this show at all "back in the day", but lately I've found myself switching to it if it happens to be on, when I'd otherwise have the TV on the regional news channel, and muted. It's entertaining.

I quite liked the most recent episode. It had a lot of moments that really made me laugh (most noticeably being Bruce's reaction to that True Blood episode). It wasn't amazing, but it's one of the best episodes that the show has made in a while.

And on a similar note, weirdest American Dad! episode ever. Apparently they produced it as a series finale for the end of last season when they thought they were going to be cancelled, hence why

I would have loved the episode if the songs were half as good as Little Shop of Horrors (which they were obviously taking inspiration from) but instead it was just a load of r&b bullplop. I want showtunes, dammit. So yeah, I didn't think it was great.

I preferred the new episode to that murder mystery. I respect them for trying something new with the murder mystery one, but it just didn't really work for me. It worked a hell of a lot better than 'Brian & Stewie', the bank-vault episode that tried similar things.

Glad the new ep is liked. You know what, I liked the bank-vault ep, so many memorable moments. Brain eating Stewie's poop, the bullet flying around the vault, Stewie getting drunk. It was entertaining and memorable. Also were there any cut-away gags in that ep? I don't remember there being any which is unusual...

I haven't watched it in a while but I thought it was alrightFelt like Seth hogged the spotlight though I thought it was pretty hilarious seeing a dog and a baby trying to get out of a bank vault..It did drag on a bit with the hour format though

Glad the new ep is liked. You know what, I liked the bank-vault ep, so many memorable moments. Brain eating Stewie's poop, the bullet flying around the vault, Stewie getting drunk. It was entertaining and memorable. Also were there any cut-away gags in that ep? I don't remember there being any which is unusual...

They made a big deal about it being Stewie's first time drinking alcohol though, even though he got drunk in the Stewie Griffin movie. They always forget little things like that from their own show.

Meg's speech just made me realize how much I hate everyone in the family except Brian and Stewie. Like Jesus what a terrible change has fallen onto the Griffins since the show aired. What horrible characters.

'The Cleveland Show' was awful, but no worse than usual to the best of my knowledge (I don't usually watch it, I just thought I would because of the trilogy thingy). 'Family Guy' was mediocre. A handful of nice moments (mostly the animation in Brian's trip) and little else - not a decent storyline and not particularly funny. 'American Dad!' was good, but they're capable of better.

I do appreciate how Meg has finally been explained to be a martyr and the random hate against her is somewhat (albeit really stretched) justified. Yeah I didn't understand the hurricane purpose either. I mean except for the bit part at the end of American Dad nothing tied the three shows together which I thought was the point. Disappointing but American Dad was good.

I really loved seeing Meg rip into her shitty family. The whole point of this episode for me was "GO MEG!"

I really hated the retcon though. Of course your family is going to go beserk Meg, you just ripped all of them new assholes and exposed them for the shitty people they are. A verbal smackdown of that magnitude is of course going to have shoutings and tears for the next few days, and I think its a situatiion where any person can idenitify (have you ever had an argument with someone you love? Of course, but have you noticed how pointing out the things they do that upset you actually hurts and makes you feel more guilty then if you had just tell them to fuck themselves with a cactus? It's not something you can write of as bieng "I said that because i was angry. I didn't mean it." )

I was disappointed that Peter got off easy but when you think about it, Lois needed a "reason you suck" speech most of all. Peter and Chris are retards and they treat just about everyone badly. Lois however knows exactly what she is doing, and her abuse of Meg is cold and calculated. We are talking about a woman who wishes for her daughter's death and has told her to go kill herself.

So yeah, I like this episode purely because of Meg, (seriously she is such an underused character. She was a pretty cruddy and annoying character most of the time pre cancellation, but after cancellation, she's the only character who has gotten more interesting as the rest of the family devolved), but apart from that I dislike it for its lazy reset button pushing. The Meg jokes used to be hilarious, now they are just annoying and lazy, and as someone who wants to be a writer, the excuse that "We can't do episodes for Meg because we don't know how to write for teenage gurlz" is probably the most pathetic excuse I have ever heard. You're a writer. Do your fucking job.

In other news American Dad was Really Fucking Good. This episode had a good storyline, genuine drama, hilarious lines and some wonderfully dark humour. Roger may have even crossed his moral event horizon this episode, and was marvellous for it. "No, no, no" "glubble"

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