Aug. 30
08:21 am JST

Aug. 30
12:46 pm JST

Aug. 30
12:51 pm JST

I wish I knew! Had a handful of business class trips in my day. ANA is nice but I find their biz seats narrow and uncomfortable, also they only have a few toilets that seem to always be occupied. United was bad because I had one facing backwards which is extremely annoying. The best that I recall was Lufthansa from Germany where they brought beer in glass bottles, excellent food, and real pillows; not to mention that absolutely gorgeous attendants.

Aug. 30
03:03 pm JST

Yeah the United ones facing backwards is so stupid and uncomfortable, absolutely disgraceful that such a seat configuration exists.

It really depends on the plane as the newer ones have better seats, but ANA and JAL have both satisfied me with their offerings, not that I get much of a chance to fly them, once every few years once I accumulate enough miles.

Aug. 30
05:54 pm JST

Aug. 30
08:41 pm JST

Years ago the company I worked for used to send all of us business class for flights over 5 hours. Now that’s reserved for manager class. All business class is great in my experience. I’d never pay out of my own pocket for it though.

Aug. 31
12:00 pm JST

Jeff Huffman

Any non-American carrier.

Of course, you are free to prefer whichever you choose, as the question is which do you prefer . But, your decision is obviously not based on logic or reality.

US carriers do indeed have some of the most uncomfortable and unpleasant Economy Class experiences in the global aviation field. But, their Business Class offerings are pretty awesome with comfortable fold-flat seating, top-notch amenities, great food, and exemplary service, despite their absolutely dreadful Economy class experiences.

Aug. 31
12:06 pm JST

Toasted Heretic

I have no idea. Being a prole, I'm in economy whenever I get an iron bird.

Serrano

It's rare but I'm with Toasted on this one.

You guys need to join some Frequent Flyer programs, and apply for some airline-branded credit cards. You can accrue serious mileage just from paying bills and everyday expenses like utilities, groceries, gasoline, dining, etc. Then, you can use milles to either upgrade to BC or fly BC for free, depending on destination.

Aug. 31
02:12 pm JST

I never pay for business myself, and am extremely grateful anytime I get the good seats. I do accrue mileage through cards and FF, but I almost always use it for free flights, rather than upgrades. I did spend some on Premium Economy during a period where I was travelling a lot for family illness and totally exhausted.

Except for JAL, my business flights have been on different airlines, so I can't claim to know how they are consistently. To date, Air France has been my personal favorite, but even Continental and NorthWest were fantastic. JAL is usually amazing as well, but on a couple of shorter international flights, I thought it really wasn't worth the extra cost.

Aug. 31
04:33 pm JST

Only travelled once, with JAL. Got bumped up because my economy ticket was paid for in full by someone else and economy was full when I checked in. Can't remember much as it was so long ago, but I would never pay for it myself. Economy is already expensive nowadays.

Aug. 31
05:27 pm JST

Sep. 1
05:51 am JST

Sep. 1
05:57 am JST

You guys need to join some Frequent Flyer programs, and apply for some airline-branded credit cards. You can accrue serious mileage just from paying bills and everyday expenses like utilities, groceries, gasoline, dining, etc. Then, you can use milles to either upgrade to BC or fly BC for free, depending on destination.

Unless you spend a fortune, you're not going on business class through some card. At best, an upgrade on short haul, which is about as exciting as standard class on the train

Sep. 1
06:53 pm JST

US carriers do indeed have some of the most uncomfortable and unpleasant Economy Class experiences in the global aviation field. But, their Business Class offerings are pretty awesome with comfortable fold-flat seating, top-notch amenities, great food, and exemplary service, despite their absolutely dreadful Economy class experiences.