Mine used a stool and reducer that way his feet have something to stand on while he's going. Now he doesn't want the reducer anymore. My potty chair had the reducer as its seat and then you can ditch the rest. I got sick of cleaning the poop out of the potty chair so we only used it for a short time. He goes in the bathroom whenever he has to go and can get his pants down/off and climb up and go without me whenever he has to go. Then move the stool to the sink and wash hands. Oh and then for pee he uses the stool and stands we started sitting but he wanted to stand pretty much right away. We also let him pee outside a lot in the beginning and spent time without pants on.