Minnesota’s first hijab wearing police woman: how cool is she?

Have you ever heard of Kadra Mohamed? Well you should have. She’s Minnesota’s first hijab wearing police woman and the first Somali female officer. Kadra Mohamed is only 21 years old and already making history.

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St. Paul is also one of the few American police departments that allows women to wear the hijab while working. This way, they hope to enable Muslim women to consider a career in law enforcement.

Kadra Mohamed

This topic always raises the same questions. Why is it that Muslim women wearing hijab have to fight all kinds of stereotypes to have a career? There are millions of Muslim women like Kadra Mohamed, who want to achieve their goals. And it’s not their hijab that is holding them back. It’s those people with narrow-minded views, refusing to see what kind of talents these women might brighten up the world with.

More people are concerned with the performances of police as a whole than they are of Kadra. Like every other police officer in this country, she will be judged by her actions. As long as her faith or personal bias doesn’t get in the way of upholding the law there shouldn’t be any problems.

James Ezell

I hope so. There is such an anti-Muslim sentiment in the US. I hope this doesn’t make her a target for the crazies on both sides.

Brandon Patterson

why would you assume that she is biased or that her faith would get in the way? do you assume the same of Christians?

Erik

Everyone has a bias, regardless of faith, a lack of faith, religion, lack of religion, etc. How that bias plays into our professional lives can make or break a career.

Of course I assume the same of Christians, as I do every other fellow American out there.

Draco

Of course we don’t assume the same of a Christian, We are a Christian nation started by Christians. You….GET OUT OF IT! …..it will not go well for you scum here.

dethtoll.mid

Yes. Even more so given this is a majority Christian nation and white American Christians are the least persecuted group in the world, yet act like they’re going to be fed to the lions tomorrow.

I don’t have a TV, but you can google and you should come up with at least ABC, NBC, CBS which all have Saudi investment. One reason we never see “islamic terrorism” out of them.

Oliver Black

The BBC and the Daily Mail only report on islamists and terrorism, you are deluded if you think they don’t already get more than their fair share of coverage.

Critical Thinker

What else is left? Here in the USA, all the progressives love to say how unbiased BBC is. Maybe it’s not bias…. Maybe it’s just reality… ?

Oliver Black

Oh, I don’t know, Israel breaking international law and slaughtering Palestinians. The BBC is quite unbiased, but not completely.

Danny

These Cops that have been busy abusing and killing civilians most of them are Christians or so they claim. So maybe she may do a better job, I am sure many will test and challenge her, ultimately she took an oath to serve and protect the community which is America. If she has a problem with America and any other muslim they should not be here. She obviously knows the job description and duties.

nanoo

Well said !! This topic is about the beautiful woman as a police officer. While everyone else is fighting about laws Of religion. Im more than proud of her becoming a police officer. And yes like every other poilce officer she will be put to the test.

Critical Thinker

Perhaps because Islam also has a political structure, unlike Christianity. And, because many Muslims in the U.S. follow Islamic Law first and foremost, as opposed to the U.S. Constitution. At this point in time, I doubt anyone would even blink if she were Buddhist, Hindu, Sikh, Jewish, Christian, atheist, African, Hispanic, Asian, gay, blue, green, or anything else. But, you can’t just pretend recent historical context doesn’t exist or that the aforementioned isn’t true.

Regardless, just as everyone else has said here, as long as she keeps her oath to serve and protect, and uphold the U.S. Constitution, everything should be fine.

Sara Mills

Oh my god are you serious?! The christian right is a political movement and they want to see christian ideals in government. tell me again how christians dont want to influence government. Just because there are countries that use sharia law doesn’t mean she is going to impose it on America. And what of Israel. It doesnt impose Jewish law on it’s citizens? It does.

Critical Thinker

Yes I’m serious, please don’t freak out… Social issues that have evolved within American politics are completely different from the Islamist worldview or Islamic law. The Christian Right isn’t concerned with the imposition of laws that ultimately hinder freedom… that would be the left, but I know you see it completely different. And, you must’ve forgotten that President Obama just 6 years ago was against gay marriage, so don’t even try it. Are you suggesting that you would take issue with Christians who philosophically don’t support gay marriage but support Muslims who don’t, and where many have much harsher views on gays in general? I assume that’s what you mean when you say the Christian Right is a political movement.

Anyway, I’m not suggesting we’ll ever have Shariah law here, but we’re witnessing a creeping erosion of things like free speech right now because Islamists are throwing tantrums over things that are protected under the 1A, but conflict with Islamic law.

Critical Thinker

Yes I’m serious, please don’t freak out… Social issues that have evolved within American politics are completely different from the Islamist worldview or Islamic law. The Christian Right isn’t concerned with the imposition of laws that ultimately hinder freedom… that would be the left, but I know you see it completely different. And, you must’ve forgotten that President Obama just 6 years ago was against gay marriage, so don’t even try it. Are you suggesting that you would take issue with Christians who philosophically don’t support gay marriage but support Muslims who don’t, and where many have much harsher views on gays in general? I assume that’s what you mean when you say the Christian Right is a political movement.

Anyway, I’m not suggesting we’ll ever have Shariah law here, but we’re witnessing a creeping erosion of things like free speech right now because Islamists are throwing tantrums over things that are protected under the 1A, but conflict with Islamic law.

The faux-religion of permanent offense loves to control people by “throwing tantrums” over things like drawing a picture of what is to many people a delusion in the first place, a narcissist who called himself the Perfect Man of all things. To ridicule this con-man is the perfect set up for humor. Americans won’t be able to resist. So if muslims immigrate here and are going to be Americans, then they have to let free speech slide and put up with it, just as the Christians do with Christ on a cross in a jar of urine. Killing over their silly offense might be Islamic, but it is not just unAmerican, not just immoral, but unlawful in the US. The whole thing comes down to Hard Darts, grow up and live with it.

Critical Thinker

I agree.

R M-S

Abortion Rights
Gay Rights (incl but not limited to marriage)
Gender Equality
Injection of religion into schools (impairing the rights of non-Christians, kids)

There are plenty of areas where Christians hinder freedom. over 35% of this country are not Christian (atheists, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, etc). We feel about the Evangelical agenda the way you (and most of us) would feel about Sharia law—except that the latter is nowhere in evidence in this country, but the former can be found everywhere.

You have it wrong about christianity in school in the US. Thanks to Common Core, Islamic indoctrination is being taught because the textbooks, Pearson in particular, are owned by molsems, Saudi and Libya. They write the content and publish. Plus the common core conferences are in Dubai. Google the connections. The wealthy oil countries have figured out that it is best to own the media, along with everything else.

Oliver Black

Textbooks are being published on creationism, therefore the US education system is completely screwed, period.

Critical Thinker

Not completely screwed, calm down. Are you talking about Texas? How can you, being such a hopeful scholar, destined for Cambridge, fall for such a logical fallacy as to lump 330 million people into one categorical stereotype as being screwed based on a social studies book in TX?

Oliver Black

I can because of this thing called capitalism, Texas is the biggest single textbook purchaser in the US, and with creationism in their textbooks it will gradually spread, as publishers don’t want to publish more than one textbook.

Pisst

It has already spread. Minnesota teaches it at many districts. With that said it’s easy to deduce that many districts between Minnesota and Texas do also.

Pisst

I am a sub and you hit the nail right on the hijab covered head.

Pisst

I am a sub and you hit the nail right on the hijab covered head.

Lena Igram

I think you should be watching what you say on forums, especially given the fact that you are a teacher. Words are offensive and I know if I saw one of my teachers using terms like “hit the nail right on the hijab covered head” I would report it.

John L. Wildman

Sub-Intelligent!

Critical Thinker

First off, abortion rights? You mean the “right” to end a human life? Thank God right wingers are looking out for humans who can’t defend themselves, because leftists will keep lying to themselves for convenience sake. As far as Christians are concerned, the rights of the unborn child trump the supposed rights of the mother to kill her unborn. And, I’m not talking zygotes here. Call that impeding freedom all you want, it’s still killing a human. Your view on abortion “rights” are quickly becoming the minority view. Ask your millennial friends.

Gay rights? Nobody is holding gays back from anything other than state recognized marriage. Plenty of people on the right are fine with govt getting out of the middle of it period, and leaving it up to churches, which is where marriage originated, not the state. Personal/ philosophical views are a whole other issue. You cannot force someone to like or accept another person, which is what the left would like to do in the name of tolerance.

Gender equality? Are you living in 1950? There is a woman running for president for crying out loud. Next.

Injection of religion in schools, “impairing”(??) the rights of non-Christian kids? First off, how exactly does that “impair the rights kids”? Second, Christians aren’t injecting Chritianity into public schools. They may be asking local boards to allow Chrisian-based aftercare programs, in addition to the many other programs.

Oliver Black

Perfectly logical, I would definitely rank a bundle of 2048 cells as a human (sarcasm, in case your brain can’t handle it). Either way, you either say that counts as a human life, which is faintly ridiculous, or that it counts as potential life, which implies that the first cell post conception is potential life, which implies the egg and a sperm next to each other is potential life, and then you increase the distance, until one is in the ovaries, and the other in the testicles, and that is still potential life, and now you are going to have to go around forcing people to sleep together, as by not sleeping together they are snuffing out, potential life, again, ridiculous. I would say that abortions post consciousness are wrong, as then you have an actual life, but before, they are fine.

Exactly, and that is the issue, they are holding gays back from state recognised marriage, game set match.

There is one woman running for president, therefore no gender inequality, that is no argument, there are also 15-20 men running for president… Gender inequality is still an issue, but most of the legislation that can be done, has been, it is just a matter of changing attitudes, and the idea of a housewife that is exacerbated by the church, doesn’t help matters.

I would say that bringing up generations of children believing in the fallacy that is creationism is quite impairing. Most children don’t have a religion, they should make the decision of their own accord (I hope you would agree god can’t be forced on someone), and deliberately indoctrinating them one way, is not a healthy way to do that.

Critical Thinker

Spoken like a prototypical, self-important atheist! Did you give yourself a pat on the back? Your Argument is ridiculous. There is no logical reason why your arbitrary line in the sand should be the deciding factor when a fetus is not worth keeping or not.

It’s funny how progressives and atheists come running to defend their Muslim friends. Anyone but those pesky right-wing Christians!

Oliver Black

I actually believe in god, just not that a man came down at a stupid time, split some fish and got people to write a book.
My line in the sand is perfectly logical, it is when they go from being a potential human, to a human, when they start to think.
I come to defend peoples right to choose for themselves what their holy book means, not what others think it ‘should’ mean.

Critical Thinker

Your line is completely arbitrary. I’ve heard very similar, silly arguments from my fellow libertarians (i.e. classical liberals, so as not to be confused with other definitions of libertarian) who claim “it’s not a life… it’s a potential life” until the baby is actually out of the womb. Another words, it’s not a life with rights (including the right to life) at 39 weeks, but at 40 weeks (out of the womb for argument sake), it magically has rights.

This is utter nonsense.

Oliver Black

Top quality strawman right there…. I said when brain activity begins is my line, not leaving the womb. When is your line?

Critical Thinker

That’s not a strawman, it’s the exact argument I’ve heard, they just don’t say that way. I’m not changing anything, but presenting their argument more straight-forward so anyone with common sense can see how silly it is.

Oliver Black

No, you are ignoring what I said, and choosing instead to take down the argument of your ‘liberal friends’, the very definition of a strawman.

Oliver Black

No, you are ignoring what I said, and choosing instead to take down the argument of your ‘liberal friends’, the very definition of a strawman.

Critical Thinker

I said “classical liberal” (libertarian), not liberal. My liberal friends don’t even think twice about it. It’s a non-discussion and if you talk about it, they just get mad at you. Anyway, I’m just reiterating what I hear, but in more honest terms. You just don’t like it. My line would be conception. Part of the reason is this: I have witnessed how married couples are saddened by miscarriages, yet many people willingly have abortions at approximately the same gestational time. This would include non-Christians, but people with liberal/progressive worldviews. What is that about?? To me that just translates to an arbitrary rationale, while ignoring reality. It’s the equivalent of sticking your head in the sand.

Oliver Black

You still fail to understand, I couldn’t give a shit what your ‘classical liberal’ friends say, what I care about is what I said, and how you are completely ignoring it.
You take a very idealised unrealistic view, there are plenty of unwanted children growing up in care homes, that aren’t all instantly adopted by these couples saddened by miscarriages.
Your argument essentially amounts to, I saw people sad because there was no more cake, therefore, if anyone ever asks you whether they should make a cake, the answer should always be yes, as those people were sad.

Critical Thinker

Oh brother… I haven’t ignored anything. The only thing I fail to understand are your silly analogies, and head-in-sand worldview, and have grown tired of it. Good day.

Oliver Black

And again, ignoring my point, but of course, now you have said “I haven’t ignored anything” you clearly didn’t ignore anything at all. I grew tired of you bigotry long ago, and am pleased to see you retreating to your ideological echo chamber.

Critical Thinker

What point? What bigotry?

Oliver Black

That I draw the line on abortion when brain activity begins.

Critical Thinker

I didn’t avoid that. I just said it was arbitrary, which it is. Many disagree with you on scientific/ethical grounds and that number is increasing. Recognizing life at conception is just the truth. It is a cluster of cells, but still life, and soon to be a fetus with brain activity at 25 weeks. Why not 24 weeks when the fetus looks essentially the same despite brain activity? Basically, you’re saying you support the aggressive, violent removal of an unborn child at 6 months in the womb. Why don’t you take a look at what that would look like and tell me if you still hold that view.

That said, I am also a realist, and am for the morning after pill, contraception, and education. I just choose the point of conception so I don’t have to decide, as you have, at what is the right moment throughout 40 weeks to terminate. Plus, I gave you another reason to which you responded with some silly analogy.

Regarding bigotry, I am in no way shape or form a bigot or racist. But, I know arrogant, young progressives like yourself love to accuse anyone who is critical of Islam as racist or bigoted.

Oliver Black

Why just recognise life at conception, why not recognise life just before conception as well, what is the difference?
Because, looks don’t make us human (the waxworks at Madame tussads look human, but most certainly aren’t), it is what happens in our brain does.
I’m not going to let my objective decision making be skewed by graphic imagery, you could equally well find women and children in poverty due to not being able to support the child they were forced to bring into the world.
You may be a realist, but there are still scenarios where that doesn’t work, say if they got impregnated without their knowledge, if could take 1-4 weeks at least.
You are a bigot, you critique islam, when the real issue is terrorists pursuing purely secular goals, in the name of islam

Critical Thinker

Because right before life isn’t life. Appreciate the civil discussion. Cheers.

Oliver Black

What is the difference between a cell with a cell, and a cell next to a cell, I don’t see any real distinction that can be known as human life.

Lucy R

Plenty of children unwanted is a reason to abort? What you are saying is those “unwanted” children would be better off. Your mission is falling apart at the seams.

Critical Thinker

That’s not a strawman, it’s the exact argument I’ve heard, they just don’t say that way. I’m not changing anything, but presenting their argument more straight-forward so anyone with common sense can see how silly it is.

Pisst

Absolutely. The atheists and Muslims should be riding the same bus to the landing into the ocean.

John L. Wildman

When you give an idiot the use of a Laptop.

Lady Cyn Aptic

I don’t care what someone believes until it infringes on my right to believe as I choose and be free. I despise both Islam and Christianity… for both the religions themselves and the actions of their followers – believe what you will, leave the rest of the sane world in peace… or, you know, go blow each other up, just keep me out of it. And no, I’m not an Atheist, Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, etc… I have my own personal connection to spirituality that’s really none of anyone else’s business. As far a fetal viability, viability is not determined when the fetus is OUT of the womb, but when it would be able to survive without a “host”… independently, not symbiotically. Forcing a woman to house something inside her body against her will is wrong, and sick – we do have this concept called bodily autonomy. Call it “murder” if you like, it won’t change anyone’s view – you’re just another man trying to speak for the women it actually affects. I’m pretty sad that you call yourself a Libertarian, you’re giving the rest of us bad names.

Critical Thinker

Your responding to thread from a few months ago, but I’m just going to jump right in here with not much structure (apologies in advance for that). I am a conservative leaning libertarian. I’m not sure why you’re so offended by what I’ve said, but if you read every post I’ve written on this thread or anywhere else on Disqus, I do not insult people, or use profanity, and try to be as open and honest as I can. For the most part, I am here to challenge progressive viewpoints the best that I can with the tiny brain that I have. I can’t help other people if they find offense with my views, which by the way aren’t that outlandish… especially if you really knew me. And, Rick Santorum? Please. I embrace liberty, and hold it very near and dear. The conservative side of me says abortion is wrong, and I am not alone in that as a libertarian. Mr. Libertarian himself, Ron Paul was pro-life. Yes, it’s true that most libertarians are pro-choice, but a very strong case can be made for pro-life libertarianism. What about the non aggression principle? Isn’t taking life, even en utero not an act of aggression? I once had a debate with a staunch libertarian (a Randian mind you) who’s whole assertion was that until the child is out of the womb, it does not have rights. I swear this to you. It was like arguing with a wall. Anyway, yes, I am a man, but have known plenty of women who have had abortions… I hold no judgement on any of them, including my sisters, and my own wife when she was young (who happens to be a liberal by the way). I just stand principled on the issue, and don’t think it makes sense to draw an arbitrary line at X number of weeks, when it is so clear that life begins when it begins. Furthermore, I view life as a gift. If not a gift from God, then a gift from the universe or however anyone wants to define it. That said, I am not so out of touch that I don’t understand how difficult of a decision it is for a woman to make, and don’t at all take it lightly. So, I reject your notion that I am giving libertarians a bad name. I am 100% for individual freedom, but when another life is involved the equation changes. That is at least how I see it. But, what do I know.

Lucy R

Then she should keep her pants on.

Rob Foley

Except it isn’t arbitary. No brain waves. No sentiant life. Simple.

Tracy Sutton

Dead give away they don’t know the first thing about Islam.

Tonya

Would you still feel the same way if the person getting an abortion was raped? Even worse a child who was raped?

Critical Thinker

Not necessarily, no. And, I am for the morning after pill, sex ed, providing condoms, BC, etc. But, that doesn’t negate my views on abortion as it stands currently as a means of contraception, especially in the 2nd trimester. There are also many couples who cannot have kids who are waiting in line to adopt. So, at some point people need to start coming to their senses on this issue. It is for the most part disgusting, and not even from a religious standpoint.

done

Its not like they’re aren’t enough kids it just takes a bit. They’re are more kids up for adoption than people looking so we don’t need more. We are currently overpopulated and don’t say “we have space” we need resources which we will run out of when we increase in population and have global warming make it harder to obtain them.

Critical Thinker

What an absurd, uncharitable argument for abortion. Do you also claim to be of the “tolerant” leftist camp?

Critical Thinker

Most people who claim to be pro-choice based on the “woman’s right to choose” don’t even want to talk about it. It’s a non-issue to them. Something is wrong with that IMO.

susan

Yeah the Left is not outspoken…. Again, do you follow politics or read newspapers?

Critical Thinker

You misunderstood my point… I’m saying if you challenge the conventional view of abortion, prima facie, with a hardliner pro-choicer, they will angrily deflect your argument and call you a Christian conservative right wing lunatic. You just proved my point below.

CGMLM

You may very well may ruin 2 lives by not having an abortion and you don’t have to accept them just let gays get married. Its not like if they get married you will some how lose you’re rights. Lastly although marriage did stem from the church. Two people being “bound” for life has been around longer than recored history and is no longer a church thing so you have no right to say who can and can not get married. Really one women has some power and everything is fine? Thats the most arrogant thing i have ever heard. There still is gender inequality. You may be fine with an america the isn’t equal, but I and a lot of americans want a better america. I want america to be the greatest nation again. Where blacks aren’t being killed for no reason and girls and women aren’t raped. I don’t want to fall behind like you clearly want to. I want to move forward on issues. I don’t really care about the whole injection of religion in schools. There less religious people everyday not because there is a war on christianity but because people know the difference between right and wrong and know things that most people go to religion for. I am a Christian and I understand that people don’t need or want what i have and I am personally okay with that, I’m not saying that religion isn’t needed just not everyone needs its it like me.

Critical Thinker

All due respect, I think you are confused about several things, and I never gave you indication of even half of what you’re accusing me of standing for.

Critical Thinker

Let me respond to your gender inequality issue… First off, I use the example of POTUS because that is the highest ranking position in govt. If Hillary were aligned with my political views, and I trusted her enough as a politician, I would vote for her in a heartbeat, regardless of her gender. Second, I was wrong, there are currently 2 women running, and it’s possible we’ll see 4 before its all over. Second, 20% of congress (both house & senate respectively) is comprised of women. Will you claim gender inequality when we reach 50%? Third, the last three bosses I’ve had (3 different jobs over 19 years) have been women… A great indicator to me of how women are not being held back by gender in present day reality. Finally, why is it that people on the left complain so much about how poorly women and gays are treated in the United States, even though they have the same opportunities as everyone else, yet blatantly ignore the horrible, incomparible injustices that are happening to women and gay people right now in MANY parts of the Middle East? The hypocracy is so thick I can barely see my hand in front of me.

StEwPiD_MoNkEy

Again you show your prejudices. Why would someone have to be Christian to be a good POTUS?

bamapanda

I think your handle (stupid monkey) is catching up with you. He never said that.

susan

Okay so you are a Conservative Christian right wing lunatic. Now your comment makes sense.

Critical Thinker

Okay so you’re a closed-minded, intolerant, hypocrite who resorts to name calling when anyone challenges your worldview.

Lucy R

Who has the right to call someone a name because of their views? Talk about ass backwards. She has her right to her belief and you to yours, so what is the problem? I’m reading this thread forgetting completely about the article (which I think is a good thing) but pulled into the land of insanity listening to posters who are hell bent with intent to shame someone for a belief system….holy shit. You do realize this young lady who is an officer has a belief system? EVERYONE has one, even you yourself. Be on your way with your beliefs and don’t force them on others. Critical thinker is not forcing their views on anyone here but stating and then having to resort to defending them, which that person is fully entitled to do so because last I checked there was no law on what one is allowed to believe.

Monika S.

1. Putting the rights of a non-fully developed fetus before the rights of a fully developed adult female human being looks ridiculous to me, especially considering that so many anti-abortion supporters stop caring about the said fetus/baby as soon as it’s out of the woman’s womb. I also find it interesting that the very same people usually support death penalty and don’t really care about the homeless, the poor etc. Why are they so eager to protect one life while ignoring other lives? Such people make me more and more convinced that the abortion issue isn’t really about them protecting life; it’s actually about them wanting to control other people’s choices.

3. The union between two people had existed long before the concept of religious marriage was invented. If straight people who aren’t religious are allowed to marry, why weren’t LGBTQ people allowed to do the same, and why are still some people saying they shouldn’t be allowed to? Marriage isn’t only for religious people, hasn’t been for a long time.

Statistics prove that female employees get paid less than male employees, even when they are in the same position, do the same work, have the same education and qualifications. How is a woman getting only around 0.75c for each dollar a man earns “gender equality”? The fact that you see more women in politics and in higher positions doesn’t at all mean that we men and women are treated equally. It’s more than silly to say that we have gender equality just because women live better lives than in 1950’s and because they have it worse in some other countries.

The problem with “religion at schools” is that in most cases, the supporters of this idea want only one kind of religion allowed/promoted at schools, which would be discriminating against everyone who wouldn’t be of that very faith.

Critical Thinker

Why do you assume as so many others do that once a baby is born, pro-life proponents all of a sudden stop caring about said babies, or life in general, or simply ignore the poor? This is nothing more than a smokescreen aimed at circumventing the pro-life position and disparaging conservatives in general. Of course, every individual’s view on abortion, capital punishment, and personal involvement in charities runs the gamut… including those on the left. But, don’t be so naive to assume that just because someone is pro-life for unborn babies, they are pro-death for everyone else. It’s just exasperating hearing this misrepresentation that’s been pounded into the heads of people like you by left-wing social justice warriors over and over and over again. Please try broadening your view a little.

Monika S.

Where did I “assume” that every “pro-life” person is “pro-death for everyone else”? I was talking about my personal experience with a lot of so-called “pro-life” people whom I’ve discussed with. Many of them were rather “anti-choice” than truly “pro-life”. However, I never said that every “pro-life” person was like that. “Many” and “every” are two words with different meanings.

I also think that it says a lot about you when you choose to ignore most of my points and twist some of my words just so that you could call me “naive”, tell me that something “has been pounded into the heads of people like me”, or belittle my opinions by telling me to “try broadening my view” instead of leading a meaningful discussion with me.

I didn’t mock, belittle or insult you in my comment so I expected the same from you.

Critical Thinker

You said: “…so many anti-abortion supporters stop caring about the said fetus/baby as soon as it’s out of the woman’s womb.”

Then you said: “I also find it interesting that the very same people usually support death penalty…”

And also: “…and don’t really care about the homeless, the poor etc.”

Finally you said: “Why are they so eager to protect one life while ignoring other lives?”

These statements exemplify your flippant assumptions about many people who are pro-life, which I challenged you on. All you have to do is read them to see that they are nothing more than denigration of character, so who is belittling who here? This is what I chose to address. I lack the motivation, frankly, to discuss the rest of what you bullet-pointed. I never intended for this thread to go in the direction of abortion anyway, but it derailed nonetheless… My original comment over 5 months ago was a simple reply to the following comment related to the column:

“why would you assume that she is biased or that her faith would get in the way? do you assume the same of Christians?”

At any rate, in my previous reply to you, I may have come across a bit biting, and alleged your naivete, but I never mocked or belittled you, and certainly did not insult you… nor do I resort to ad homs on Disqus or anywhere else. But, I stand by my statements.

Monika S.

1. How is it “flippant assumptions” when I was talking about my own personal experience with many so-called “pro-life” people I’ve been discussing with? I never used “every” in any of the sentences you quoted, nor in any other sentence in my comment, and I never said those statements were valid for each and every single “pro-life” supporter.

2. I don’t consider it a mature and civil discussion when someone I’m discussing with tells me “something has been pounded” into my head (just because they disagree with my opinion), thus implying that my opinion can’t have been formed by me researching, observing the world around and/or using my own brain, or when they instantly assume that my own personal experience I was talking about is only naive overgeneralized assumptions, and that I think that they apply to every “pro-life” person in the world. It also feels pretty belittling when you reply to my comment as if I were a small child who needs to “broaden their view”, instead of addressing what I actually said, or instead of telling me you don’t feel enough motivation to keep discussing these matters.

3. You might have posted your comment 5 months ago but it’s a public comment in a public discussion, and I stumbled on this thread only a few days ago. I didn’t like what you said about gender equality so I reacted because it’s something I’m passionate about. There were other points in your comments that I disagreed with and am passionate about, so I reacted. You didn’t have to reply but you chose to do so, so I would have expected at least some motivation to lead a discussion. If you didn’t feel like it, it would have been enough to say so, instead of the “tone” you seemed to have chosen with me.

4. I stand by saying that the way someone leads a discussion says a lot about them. However, I disagree with your assumption that it must infer that your whole character is in question.

To be completely honest, I find it really unpleasant how you keep trying to twist almost everything I say into something demeaning, intolerant or stupid, so this is my last reaction to you.

Have a nice day.

Critical Thinker

How is it flippant assumptions? Because within your original comment, you never specified you we’re basing your statements on your own personal experiences, and instead made flip remarks about pro-lifers. Pardon me for making my own assumption that these views we’re pounded into your head. But, I’ve heard those same generalities and deflections for years. I do apologize for the “tone”. Perhaps I need to be done with this thread and move on… 99% of the engagement I’ve had here has been contentious, where I ultimately get accused of being a bigot, a racist, a liar, and now insulting.

You too.

Citogal

“Thank God right wingers are looking out for humans who can’t defend themselves” You’re looking out for babies born in poverty? You’re looking out for children with not enough food on the table? You’re looking out for veterans who come back with PTSD and can’t take care of themselves? You’re looking out for anyone but yourself? I call bullshit. Your full of it, and it’s spewing out in verbal diarrhea.

Critical Thinker

What I shoud’ve have said was “speaking out” on behalf of the unborn. I should’ve known someone like you would twist what I said to make a connection that I am somehow personally obligated to take care of other people’s children. But, since you mention it… I’m looking out for my family, including my 3 stepkids who I helped raise these past 10 years, plus my 6 y/o son, my wife, on occasion her father who has Parkinson’s, my employees, and everyone else in my life that I’m lucky enough to have a relationship with. Incidentally, my elderly parents donate much of their time/money to needy families, as well as to the young children of one of my own family members who never got their life together. My wife (a mental health nurse) works with soldiers with PTSD at Walter Reed. I have donated to Operation Smile over the years, and other charities, and now that you remind me, I think I’ll re-up with them and wounded warriors.

What about you?

Citogal

Someone like me? I’m twisted? That’s just noise. You complain that others don’t see your side, but do you see the other side? The street goes both ways. The funny thing is, most of the people you’re tangling with in this forum do see your side. Most Pro-Choice advocates never have abortions and don’t advocate it, they advocate contraception, prenatal care, well-baby care, women’s health. Pro-Choice advocates only want a safe alternative available should an abortion be required, because face it, abortion has been around for thousands of years, and it’s never going away, not until “people like you” make the decision to be part of a solution, not to perpetuate the age-old problem of spouting about so-called morality. You talk about God and the Bible, but God gave Free Will. Everyone has their own relationship with God, even atheists, a rejection of a relationship is still a relationship, and that is between them and God, not between you and them. You can choose to believe what you want, but people have to choose their own path. I’ve read some of your other comments. You say life begins at conception, but you don’t advocate any action that would give a new life a GOOD start, you just want it to be born. After that, all bets are off. YOU personally don’t have to take care of everyone, but how about anyone who is not related to you by blood or marriage, or close friendship? I knew you were going to say you provide for your own family – but they don’t count, it’s like saying you provide for your own arm or leg – and you made that choice for yourself. You say you want to take choice away from others, but you have no responsibility for the consequences of restricting another person’s choice. You say you’re a Godly person, but the real test of faith is not in helping those who matter most to you, but those who are least known to you. A Good Samaritan is most defined as one who helps strangers. The prodigal son was celebrated for coming back to the fold, why not strive to bring unwed mothers into the fold? Why not strive to make abortion absolutely unnecessary, by helping to change archaic beliefs – change the dogma to say that a child born out wedlock is NOT shameful, the mother is NOT shameful, that greater society does NOT have zero obligation to provide for a disadvantaged child. How about teaching men to not be frivolous with women, and have a sense of responsibility, because it takes 2 to make a baby? You claim to be pious, but piousness with no compassion for the plight of others is not morality – it’s just pride and hubris. It’s awful that anyone has to contemplate abortion for any reason at all, but “people like you” are the ones who shaped the world that fairly mandates abortion. Be a part of a positive solution, because from where you sit, views of “people like you” have not changed the world one whit.

Critical Thinker

Oh my gosh, again with all of the assumptions you make of me. Please come down off of your own high horse. Have a nice day.

Lucy R

Vets taken care of? Ha! Babies born in poverty, in America? Ha! Children with not enough food on the table? Ha! again. Before your friendly government took over stealing from the citizens to help the poor it was actually the citizens helping the poor, but that’s right, big daddy stepped in to take all the credit.

Citogal

It’s a whole new world. People don’t even know their neighbors anymore. Did the government tell people to be more social online (like this forum) than with people they can see day after day? Did the government tell people to abandon the elderly to crappy nursing homes? Did the government tell people to stop taking care of other people? Are YOU personally taking care of at least one homeless person? I don’t. I pay good taxes for consolidated efforts, because my lone ability/contribution would not help a single person. As a society, we no longer take care of our fellows, we rely on “big government” to do it for us. It’s so EASY to say the government is useless, when “We the People” have abdicated a lot to the government. We elect officials who are on payola, and many don’t vote out of apathy, so a smaller group of people are voting in laws to the benefit of corrupt politicians and corporate lobbies. Actually the biggest problem is not government, but corporations that want us to have more greed – more useless stuff to fill our houses and reduce our income so we can’t take care of others, so we look to other entities. When Wall Street was flooded, the wealthy Tea-Partiers who eschew “Big Government” had their hand out to FEMA, just the same as little people affected by Katrina or Sandy. Yet Wall Street has enough money to take care of themselves, do they do it? The rich people who bought land and don’t farm it just so they can get tax and fallow farmland subsidies – why are we still doing that? If land isn’t producing, no subsidy. Period. The corporations that were given “seed” money for R&D when their industries were fledgling (read Big Oil & Gas) still get those subsidies, even though they are wildly profitable. When Banks or GM or other companies that are “too big to fail” (meaning their failure would collapse great huge segments of economy), it’s up to “We the People” to bail them out via the Federal government. Who bails individuals out? Should also be the Federal gov, and it was happening, but not enough. Just 10% Military Industrial Complex would infuse Social Security and pay for social programs for 100 years, maybe more if we dedicate that money each year. Yes, there has to be change in government, but don’t pretend that we still live in a pre-Depression era world, where people took care of other people. Because we don’t.

Lucy R

Yeah and no one is pretending we live in a pre depression era. That is not what I said, don’t mince my words. I’m surprised you aren’t aware that people on the streets helping the homeless are getting fined for it. hmmmphhh. In the city I live there are a ton of organizations that give out food free, hand out furniture, clothing, personal care items etc., not from the government no, so let’s not pretend none of these organizations ever existed or still exist. Yeah we have huge problems within corporations, government and the like, no doubt we could hash over all day long, the whole lot of us, but unfortunately these conversations are getting us nowhere as we sit tit for tat over things rather than banding together. It’s always a chess game of opponents and it’s tiring. I’ve taken in plenty of homeless people, and I certainly don’t owe you or anyone any explanation as to what I do with what I have done with my time and resources but if you insist. I don’t make it a habit of shouting to the world all my good deeds because I’m not all that crazy about giving myself accolades for doing what should automatically be in the hearts of most but doesn’t seem to exist because if there is no one but “self” what then motivates one to move beyond oneself….not much which is why greed exists at the level it does.

StEwPiD_MoNkEy

And your Christian biased rears it’s ugly head.

You want ppl living by your standards.

Christians are actively trying to implement biblical morality on a society that is based on equality. You just couldn’t hold back your prejudices could you?

Thank you for proving RM-S correct. Lmao

CharlieAdamsInKY

“The Christian Right isn’t concerned with the imposition of laws that ultimately hinder freedom”

ROFLMAO!!! Great comedy act. How do you express such inane drivel with a straight face?

CharlieAdamsInKY

“The Christian Right isn’t concerned with the imposition of laws that ultimately hinder freedom”

ROFLMAO!!! Great comedy act. How do you express such inane drivel with a straight face?

Critical Thinker

See below smart guy:

CharlieAdamsInKY

I did. And I see you lying through your g*ddamned teeth.

Critical Thinker

Again with the angrrr. What do you think I was lying about?

fsdfas

‘critical thinker’ isnt too much of a critical thinker amirite

Critical Thinker

Run along now.

Oliver Black

The only creeping erosion of free speech is from your darling republicans and their patriot act

Critical Thinker

What do you know about American politics, being that you’re from the UK? I am against the patriot act. I am not a republican. Keep talking out of your arse.

Oliver Black

Quite a bit, easily more than your average American voter. So you are against lumping everyone together as potential terrorists to look at their phone records, but you lump all Muslims together as hateful terrorists?

susan

“The Christian Right isn’t concerned with the imposition of laws that ultimately hinder freedom” You have to be joking!!! You don’t follow politics or read newspapers?? LOL

Critical Thinker

I’m just going to assume your only two bullet points are abortion and gay marriage. Beyond that, most conservatives, libertarians and right wingers are all about freedom, including supporting your freedom to be a smug, closed-minded leftist.

1. Yes, legal abortion allows a woman the freedom to end a human life up to 26, 28, and unlimited time in several states. And yes, many conservatives want to take that freedom away and instead realign that right/freedom with the unborn child. You choosing to see this as lunacy is just your opinion. That’s all it is. The fact remains that abortions are an act of aggression on a human life.

2. Re: gay marriage, I would say that it’s not the place of the govt. to ban it, and I personally don’t care. They are adults making their own decisions about their own lives. But, unlike you, I also respect the views of those who may not agree with it on religious grounds. I guess that makes me more open-minded than you. ; )

Glen

Free speech was threatened by our own government with the enactment of the “Patriot Act.” We did it to ourselves beginning on 9/12/01. Anyone challenging the notion the notion of an all-out war on terrorists before we even know who they were (we went to war against the wrong people to begin with) were considered anti-American and potential tourists themselves. Government expanded their intrusion on our personal lives and gathered information on individual citizens to a degree unprecedented. A new McCarthyism. Free speech and other rights have been eroding long before this unholy xenophobic anti-Muslim sentiment set in.

it ain’t an assault rifle

Not all Muslim fall under sharia law

Rob ONeill

If only the LEFT had your understanding. But they don’t.

curlycuejojo

Well, there is a big political christian movement here in the U.S.

Donnertparty

Many Christians follow “God.s law” first. The Catholic and Episcopal churches have a political hierarchy.

Critical Thinker

They also embrace modernity, western civilization and in the U.S., they follow the Constitution.

CharlieAdamsInKY

You are so full of sh*t you must squish when you walk.

Critical Thinker

Wrong. But you are definitely an angry person.

CharlieAdamsInKY

What I’m angry about are you goddamned freaks lying through your goddamned teeth 24/7. F*ck you and your idiot pack. Quit beating around the bush and get yer little civil war started so the rest of us can finish it, already.

Critical Thinker

Say what?? What am/was I lying about? Sharing my thoughts, opinions, and personal views about the world? How is that lying? I refuse to stoop to your level and spew baseless accusations, personal attacks, and ad homs, because you seem to lack reason and maturity. Good day.

CharlieAdamsInKY

“How is that lying?” Because your “thoughts, opinions, and personal views about the world” are total bullshit, baseless propaganda, yet you insist on proclaiming them as fact and then claiming yourself “rational” and “mature”. You’re gonna run away? Good riddance.

Critical Thinker

You make absolutely no sense, have zero arguments, and just yell and scream. Another shining example of the tolerant leftist world view. I laid out my arguments, albeit some unrelated to the original Hijab wearing cop story, but you have nothing but hate and intolerance for someone who disagrees with you. You’re just wrong, period.

CharlieAdamsInKY

LOL!! You ignorant sod, nobody is under any obligation to be “tolerant” of bigots and liars. You’re just a f*cking TeaPubliKKKlan jackass, period. “Critical Thinker”? Bull. Sh*t. Propaganda-parroting SHILL is all.

By the way, little man: I’m not “yelling and screaming”. I’m laughing my ass off at you right-wing idiots who are stupid enough to think you’re fooling anybody with the tripe you spew.

Critical Thinker

SMH.

CharlieAdamsInKY

Shake it all you want, sonny. You know I’m telling it just like it is.

Critical Thinker

LOL! Telling what like what is exactly? You mean showing yourself to be an aggressive, abrasive, loud-mouthed, closed-minded, vitriolic, bullying, left-winger (which by default makes you a hypocrite and an authoritarian in my personal opinion) who hangs out on message boards CALLING EVERYONE A LIAR who challenges his liberal world view.

SMH.

CharlieAdamsInKY

Look, asswipe, if you don’t like the name, don’t live up to it. Your “personal opinion” means absolutely nothing.

Critical Thinker

Nor does yours.

CharlieAdamsInKY

But, sadly for people like you, I have the same rights to express mine as you do, and that includes calling people like you out on yours. So, don’t like it? Tough sh*t.

Critical Thinker

Let’s be clear for all the kids watching at home. You haven’t called me out on anything, but have only made yourself look like a one-man angry mob. And, I support your freedom to do so, so please don’t be sad! I’m aware that social justice warriors like you mean well, but you are sorely wrong on so much. You have ostensibly bought into some silly notion that conservatives & libertarians are all greedy, intolerant, racists or something along those lines. But, this is just ridiculous.

Hey everyone, just know that if you share your views or opinions which fly in the face of the popular view, be prepared for folks like this guy to attack you, rather than engaging in civil discussions like adults do.

Welcome to the new tolerance folks!

CharlieAdamsInKY

ROFLMAO!!! Hey, everyone, welcome once again to the right wing’s “Pity me! Oh, pity poor me!!” act. May all the gods forbid that anyone should fail to tiptoe and waffle around these bastards. No, by all means, we must allow THEM to express whatever slanderous, spiteful, hateful views they wish, while the rest of us duck our heads and mumble quietly into our caps.

Let’s be clear: those days are GONE, sonny, long gone. You want “civil discussion”?? Then OFFER THAT INSTEAD OF PARROTING YOUR RIGHT-WING PROPAGANDA MEMES.

Otherwise, you get just exactly what you ask for. Nobody is under any obligation to “tolerate” the kind of crap you freaks have spewed for f*cking DECADES. Nobody should have EVER tolerated it. People should have stood up in your faces and told you to Go F*ck Yourselves a long, long time ago, and now that people are fed up enough to start, don’t waste your breath whining about how badly you’re being treated now that you’re getting back some of your own. Don’t like it? Tough. Sh*t. Better learn to live with it, boy, ’cause those “good ol’ days” when people just humped their shoulders and took your sh*t ain’t coming back.

Critical Thinker

You are clueless.

CharlieAdamsInKY

No, sonny-little-man, I see through you vermin like you were made of glass. And I’m fed up to the gills with all of you.

Critical Thinker

Well at least there’s one thing we can agree on: the feeling is absolutely mutual.

Cheers

CharlieAdamsInKY

I can live with that.

Critical Thinker

Say what?? What am/was I lying about? Sharing my thoughts, opinions, and personal views about the world? How is that lying? I refuse to stoop to your level and spew baseless accusations, personal attacks, and ad homs, because you seem to lack reason and maturity. Good day.

YeahCLop

Christianity does not have a political structure. Okay. You do you.

sufipeace

Well critical thinker, Who say Christianity doesnt have a political structure? Havent u ever heard of the papal state, or even the Vatican City? Catholics r to follow the church CANON law. JUdaism is the sister religion of islam and its most similar. They have the Halacha, that means the law in Hebrew–but Arabic Jews also use the arabic word Sharia to mean Jewish law. also note CANON come from the Arabic word QANUN.

Critical Thinker

This post was 4 months ago, but I’ll just say one last thing. Sharia law is lock-step with a “governing” body. Outside of any Christian church, Christianity of course has moral guidelines, but there exists no nation that uses government to dictate or enforce any of it, unless you consider laws against murder or rape a Christian political structure, and even then there is rule of judicial law, not religious law. Please don’t conflate the issue here. You don’t have to be an historian to see that the countries that fuse draconian religious laws with their government are full of problems.

Henry IV

lol ur fucking retarded how about to do some research before you make a dumbass post like this..

Critical Thinker

This post was 4 months ago, and you need to be more specific about what issue you’re all butt-hurt about.

Ken

That was so well put, thank you!

John Dizzle

Uhhhhh You must not be familiar with world politics outside of the U.S. Most religions are committing terroristic acts of violence around the world for the most part. Do your research. Only takes a few hours with the internet. Seriously.

Critical Thinker

Sure, history is full of examples, but I was referring to the 21st century. What is your point exactly?

Endimyon

Christianity does not have a political structure?? What planet do you live on?? They pay no taxes, they have an army of politicians running for the highest office in the land. If you do not see a political structure in Christianity you are missing the move to make the US a theocracy

Critical Thinker

Sharia law or Islamic law is in lock-step with a “governing” body. For example, Egypt, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, and Iran are all theocracies or partial theocracies. The dissimilarity between Islamic political structure and the imaginary one that you seem to think Christianity has is colossal. Outside of the church, Christianity of course has “moral guidelines”, but there exists no nation in the West that uses government to dictate or enforce any of it, unless you consider laws against murder or rape a Christian political structure. What is more, there is rule of judicial law, not religious law. Your moonbattery is showing.

Endimyon

If you say so.

Critical Thinker

I just want to make one more point very clear. It is true that all belief sets, ideologies, religions, worldviews, etc. have some form of framework for political influence. And, that this can be pointed to throughout history. Even now in some ways people try to defend their rights to descrimitely perform services that conflict with their morals, via the political process. This of course is misconstrued as hate, but it is notz. Nonetheless, the point I was originally trying make on this thread 4 months ago that everyone is ignoring, is that Christianity and any other religion for that matter, specifically in the Western world, and in the 21st century is completely separated from government. This is not the case with pure Islam, and in the many counties that embrace Sharia. There is a huge difference between the imaginary theocracy that is never going to happen here in the U.S. and the one that already exists in practice across the Middle East and in the hearts & minds of many Muslims that live in the western world and still embrace it. That is all.

At the end of the day, I really don’t care if this woman wears a hijab. But by the same token, I’m not clapping and cheering about it either. Congratulations should go to her for vowing to protect and serve.

Endimyon

I appreciate your clarity of thought.That said, I find this resurgence of radical Christian intrusion into politics and the fabric of the nation to be troubling, since in my mind anyway, it represents a return to a past(1950 and before), that held all kinds of entrenched prejudices and unfairness. Christianity has been part of government from early on in the US–not so much through a Sharia Law mechanism, but more insidiously, but rather by occupying the power structure. Perhaps I should have more accurately said that I want religion to go back into its churches and stay there, and enjoy its privileges of no taxation and cultural permeation.Or step out and lose those. I have no love of Saudis and their weekly beheadings, or really, anything having to do with faith based beliefs. The final distillation in this situation was best summed up by you–Congratulations should go to her for vowing to protect and serve. It breaks a number of entrenched beliefs. Good conversation.

Carl Hargrove-Ali

You really don’t know what you are talking about,go and visit a military grave yard and be shocked at how many markers contain the names of Muslims who sacrificed their lives for what you deny them….I say this to people like you because you put all of us in one basket….afterall African slaves were Muslims and were exposed to the Willy Lynch method to break them.African Muslims were literate as well as educated and some sued for freedom…..your thinking is critically flawed.

Jonathan

Christianity doesn’t have a political structure? Nice one.

Critical Thinker

Certainly many religions have political ‘influence’ including Christianity, but I think you’re confusing that with law, which implies something more fixed like a ‘structure’. The 1A to the US Constitution protects the freedom of the individual from the promoting or restricting of one religion and it’s particular views over another. Islamic/Sharia law is entrenched within government and culture in many Muslim-majority countries across the globe, and the Islamic political system is laid out in the Koran. The application, enforcement, and jurisprudence varies across borders, but nonetheless is part and parcel in some form to all of these nations and their citizens daily lives. I’m willing to admit I wasn’t specific enough in my original reply five months ago, but I was only providing a response to the question as to why would this particular police officer be biased due to her faith… which by the way was never meant as a disrespect to anyone.

Sean Murphy

There was a time when Christianity had a political structure. At one point in time the kings of Europe could not rule without the permission of the pope. Also, after the discovery of the Americas, there was fierce competition between the Spanish and Portuguese over who could claim what. Thus the Line of Papal Demarcation. Everything to the west belonged to Spain and everything to the east belonged to Portugal. That’s why Portuguese and not Spanish is spoken in Brazil (I honestly don’t know if any other countries in the Americas speak Portuguese).

Also, only in Sunni Islam is there a mandate for theocracy. In Shi’a Islam, after the disappearance of their leader in the 12th or 13th century, it was forbidden to have a theocracy until the leader returned (at the end of days). However, Iran’s first Supreme Leader decided that interpretation was incorrect and campaigned for a Shi’a theocracy while he lived in exile during the reign of the second Shah of the 20th century and then founded that theocracy (which has been replaced by a much, much more liberal theocracy since his death in 1988) after he dangled power from the other revolutionary groups, 1979, who helped overthrow the Shah. The idea of a Shi’a theocracy is still not accepted by all Shi’ites.

And finally, it does not matter who you are, your physically characteristics, or social group, any one who is any type of law enforcement officer or government official, do we not (at least ideally, and not necessarily always in practice) hold them in the same responsibility of upholding the Constitution? Do we really need to be reminded of the obvious?

Critical Thinker

Appreciate the historical info… I wasn’t aware of those details. The history of ALL religions, empires, civilizations, etc. is extremely important to know when looking at the world and the complex issues we face these days. That said, Christianity today is separated from government, period, end of story. As well it should be. The same can not be said of Islam. Just something to consider.

Re: your last paragraph… very well put, and to answer your question I would say: Yes, we hold them to account in upholding the Constitution, and they take an oath. That is hugely important. Do we need to be reminded of it? Heck yeah, because many Americans don’t think about it, don’t care about it, or simply ignore it. The First Amendment protects her rights to practice Islam freely, but it also protects others from the promotion of it via the state, and in this instance her wearing the Hijab is contradictory to that part of the Constitution. The same would apply if someone wore a giant cross necklace or Jewish star on the outside of their uniform. That simply goes against the Constitution.

Kirk Billingsley

Exactly! I feel bad for the 1% of good Muslims, I may be a bit high on my percentage so I apologize for that.

TRUTHSEEKER50

First of all she is not wearing hijab because she is not covered and it’s not cool.

TRUTHSEEKER50

First of all she is not wearing hijab because she is not covered and it’s not cool.

iman

Brother, she is covered. That’s her uniform which allows people to know she serves a d protects the citizens of her state proudly. As for what you see wrong is a problem you have not her. Respect a woman for her courage to rise in a world where men think it’s ok to tell a woman how she should dress and what is the real meaning of hijab.

iman

Brother, she is covered. That’s her uniform which allows people to know she serves a d protects the citizens of her state proudly. As for what you see wrong is a problem you have not her. Respect a woman for her courage to rise in a world where men think it’s ok to tell a woman how she should dress and what is the real meaning of hijab.

Hombre de mar

Ahh men tell woman what to wear in al religions.. Abrahamic religions are misogynist.

fireh

Oh, that’s why we don’t see people walking around naked these days, community are misogynist.

Hombre de mar

Well the are nudist centers and beaches.

Hombre de mar

Well the are nudist centers and beaches.

Hombre de mar

Ahh men tell woman what to wear in al religions.. Abrahamic religions are misogynist.

Princessofdarkness Al Haqq

At least we no she is a Muslim men these days don’t want to acnolige that they are Muslim and i no there are men on the police force that are Muslim and the only way you no they are Muslim is from there name and 9×10 they still go by there non Muslim name

Shadi Haddadin

I no that thier are gramar and speling police out their and their looking for you’re

Shammua Mekonnen

Hiding Behind Keyboard: You are an ass, go tell the christian Police Men/Women to take off their crosses from around their necks. Fool

Monique Hall

*acknowledge

Hiding Behind Keyboard

This is how Religious Zealots Take over, they demand exceptions for them and not for you. This is appalling. Want to be a Cop, be a cop like the rest of the Americans your serving with. You are on the job to uphold the law not Sharia.
Sorry religion has no place in law enforcement. The problem is Islam is incomparable with the US Constitution. They demand exceptions to everything, everything is offense to them. It makes me ill how they are using our own ideology against us to remove long standing ideologies that worked and kept America, well…. America. Sure there are small problems, we are not a perfect society, but Islam is nothing more than a Cult. They use the Guise of religion to break apart the moral fiber of Amercia. They have no love for anyone but themselves. They don’t care if you are Catholic, or Jewish, or an Atheist. The only care that they are not offended. The expect their Religious right to be upheld in every day society, and when something is offense to them, no matter how long standing and common it has been, it is now politically incorrect if we don;t fix it to their standards.

If you think this is OK, then I want Jewish cops to wear their Yamakas on the Sabbath when working instead of uniform hats. I want Catholic Cops to be able to carry rosary beads with them. Satanic cops to be able to weat their black robes over their uniform. See how ridiculous this?

So Jobs when you live in America should demand you leave your religion at the door for most of your beliefs. Sure if your on break, you have a right to pray, you have a right not to eat certain foods while at work, but if you going to demand a business change and make accommodations for your faith, then I think you should not have taken the job.

Hiding Behind Keyboard

This is how Religious Zealots Take over, they demand exceptions for them and not for you. This is appalling. Want to be a Cop, be a cop like the rest of the Americans your serving with. You are on the job to uphold the law not Sharia.
Sorry religion has no place in law enforcement. The problem is Islam is incomparable with the US Constitution. They demand exceptions to everything, everything is offense to them. It makes me ill how they are using our own ideology against us to remove long standing ideologies that worked and kept America, well…. America. Sure there are small problems, we are not a perfect society, but Islam is nothing more than a Cult. They use the Guise of religion to break apart the moral fiber of Amercia. They have no love for anyone but themselves. They don’t care if you are Catholic, or Jewish, or an Atheist. The only care that they are not offended. The expect their Religious right to be upheld in every day society, and when something is offense to them, no matter how long standing and common it has been, it is now politically incorrect if we don;t fix it to their standards.

If you think this is OK, then I want Jewish cops to wear their Yamakas on the Sabbath when working instead of uniform hats. I want Catholic Cops to be able to carry rosary beads with them. Satanic cops to be able to weat their black robes over their uniform. See how ridiculous this?

So Jobs when you live in America should demand you leave your religion at the door for most of your beliefs. Sure if your on break, you have a right to pray, you have a right not to eat certain foods while at work, but if you going to demand a business change and make accommodations for your faith, then I think you should not have taken the job.

Shammua Mekonnen

Hiding Behind Keyboard: You are an ass, go tell the christian Police Men/Women to take off their crosses from around their necks. Fool, why do you people require one thing form one person and another from another person, doing the same job????

Hiding Behind Keyboard

She wants to wear a symbol of her religion around her neck fine., Hide
it under the uniform like every other cop does. Wearing a religious
item that takes away from the standard uniform is making an exception
for religion, Which is something that should not be allowed. Islam is the most evil
ideology to ever get a foothold in the USA. I don’t care if you are
Christian, Jewish or atheist, Islam needs to be removed from this earth.
They have killed more people in the name of Allah than Hitler, Poe Pot,
and Gangas Khan did together. Islam is a Death Cult nothing else.

Rebekah Chapman

Christian women are meant to wear head coverings as well. It says so in 1 Corinthians 11: 14-15.

Just Chilling

Only when they don’t have hair. Other wise. Their hair is their covering.

Just Chilling

The head covering verse was caused when priestesses of the goddess Diana converted and joined the church. They wore bald heads. It caused a big stink and so Paul wrote it to deal with them. There’s more context to it, of course.

Come on! The “head covering” in the verse is a woman’s hair! Mo was quite insistent that women are the lower species and needed to hide themselves, thus the berkas.
Here are some verses from the self-proclaimed “Perfect Man” about women to keep his fascist gender apartheid instituted…

Muhammad was superstitious.This hadith says that women are part of an evil omen.
“I heard the Prophet saying. ‘Evil omen is in three things: The horse, the woman and the house.’ ” (Bukhari)

Koran 24:31: -The woman is not only supposed to cover herself, except with relatives, but to look down, so as to avoid making eye-contact with men. “And say to the believing women that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts and do not display their ornaments except what appears thereof, and let them wear their head-coverings over their bosoms, and not display their ornaments except to their husbands or their fathers, or the fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or their brothers’ sons, or their sisters’ sons, or their women, or those whom their right hands possess, or the male servants not having need (of women), or the children who have not attained knowledge of what is hidden of women; and let them not strike their feet so that what they hide of their ornaments may be known.”

Koran 33:5: – “Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them…”A woman is only allowed to present herself unveiled to family and slaves. “It shall be no crime in them as to their fathers, or their sons, or their brothers, or their brothers’ sons, or their sisters’ sons, or their woman, or the slaves which their right hands possess, if they speak to them unveiled”

Koran 2:282: The Prophet said, ‘Isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?’ The women said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘This is because of the deficiency of a woman’s mind.’

Koran 4:34: Husbands may hit their wives even if the husbands merely fear highhandedness in their wives (quite apart from whether they actually are highhanded).

Tabari IX:113 “Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur’an.”

Koran 2:223 : Your women are your fields, so go into your fields whichever way you like.
In Islam sex is an insane asylum for women, little girls (who can be wives from infancy), and even little boys. They are nothing but sex toys.

On the murder of a woman, Mohammad said, “Two goats won’t butt their heads about her.” From The Life of Mohammad, pg 675, Oxford U. Press, 1955.
Not worth two head butts is true of a woman falsely accused of raping & murdering her child in Saudi Arabia. It is not apparent if she was given a trial, not uncommon there. Here we see her screaming ” over and over “ana maa qtel” which means “I never killed.” as she is about to be beheaded by the king’s executioner – in a parking lot! This is Sharia.
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Reem Hesham

first of all it’s called the Holly Quran and Prophet Muhammed peace be upon him, and if you actually made the effort to get your information from a trustworthy source rather than just the interenet or a book written by an ignorant writer, you would have known what a great man he was, it’s so ignorant to take texts out of context and try to explain it your own way. don’t judge a book from it’s cover, being a muslim following the Quran and my great prohpet’s teachings, i have managed to help so many people, treat people with kindness and generosity, smile at strangers, don’t hurt others or any living soul, be modest to help people see me for who i am inside, admire my personality not my body. there are so many great stories from the prophet’s life that if you had known of you would have been so ashamed of what you said about him, may God help you be kind to other religions and people who are different from you, peace 🙂

The source of my info IS the Koran, not to mention there are several sources of it with Arabic and English verses side by side. Usually these scholar approved versions are less damaging as to what a follower is told to do than the actual Arabic version itself.
…One thing I am finding is the imams seem to be skipping over the verses that Mo. said are valid in their mosques, and point out the verses that Mo. canceled out himself. There is no reform allowed, it is a beheading offense, but I surmise that the only way to keep money coming into the mosque is to gloss over what Mo. really wanted, death to all but Muslims for his caliphate (that is supposedly taught in the back rooms of some mosques to “inspire” more psychopathic clones to join ISIS here in the US or abroad).
…YOU can call it what YOU want, Reem, but I don’t call what’s mandated to do in it holy at all. Understand that in verse 2:106, Mo. canceled out all his peace verses because he was getting criticism that he was making up his revelations (they always were very convenient, just in time when one served what he wanted to do, usually murder some poor critic) and there was no connection to Abraham, he made that up too, Jews & Christians did not accept that in Mecca. This is where he went postal, vindictive & psychotic, and muslims are the ones who should be ashamed.
…From then on your book deals with all the murderous, enslavement, and mutilation acts to do to poor people (I’m leaving out the gender apartheid, FGM, and pedophilia Mo. insisted upon). I don’t hate, but I am appalled by what that book Orders, Mandates, Commands people to do against others, as well as appalled that its own followers do not know what is in it.
… I don’t see muslims as people different from me, I hate to be bursting these bubbles, but I see Muslims as taken in by the biggest hoax in history.

Oliver Black

I highly doubt you can read Arabic, so all your points are third or fourth hand, and I don’t trust them.

Doesn’t matter. Arabic translates like any other religion. Don’t try and pull that ‘it can’t be ‘perfectly’ translated’ bullshit on us. We’re not stupid. I’ve read the Qu’ran and it’s actually very uninspired and has tons of flaws, especially when it comes to describing the world. It claims to be divinely inspired yet fails time and time again when Muslims try and use it to say it ‘predicts’ science, but they misunderstand the science and thus think your holy book is right when it’s full of bullshit that doesn’t add up when you put it through rigorous examination,.

Oliver Black

What is your point? The Qur’an doesn’t work for you, doesn’t work me either, doesn’t mean the people it does work for are monsters.

I always chuckle about that, MUST read in Arabic, “perfectly” translated BS. What Mo. actually did to people is not taught, but that con-man line seems to be taught in every mosk in the world. I surmise it is to keep its own followers in the dark and then they try to foist it on others. In the end, the koran convicts itself.

Oliver Black

The ‘con-man’ line is what people want to hear, it is what mainstream islam is.

Oliver Black

I don’t belive for one second you have read the Qur’an. It clearly adds up for the 1 billion people leading perfectly civilised lives.

Loren James

One of the languages the Bible is written in is English and yet there are many, many Christian sects in the West that completely disagree in their interpretations of it. You are not a religious scholar and , yes, you are not only stupid but malicious.

“I don’t criticize Islam out of hatred. I criticize Islam because I love Muslims enough to tell them the truth. Jesus said, “Do to others what you would have them do to you.” If I had confidence in a false prophet, I hope that someone would love me enough to tell me.” ~ David Wood
Criticism is observation. Criticism is not hate when dealing with facts which are Truth. Truth is Hate to those who hate the truth. But truth will set them free. Do all in love.
You might not like what I post, but i have done my research and find what is in the koran appalling. I find many muslims have no clue and that is why I expose what is in it. Read Surah 9.

Oliver Black

I find Korean quite a pleasant language (I assume that is what you are referring to?), so you quite clearly haven’t done your research.

I probably pronounce it that way too, I just spell it the English and or American and or Australian way. It’s interesting how controlling even of spelling muslims are. Poor people if they actually do have to live under a caliphate. “Behead those who insult by not using our spelling”?

We are all mirrors for each other. If you see me as indoctrinated, that is because you first see it in yourself. In psychology it’s call Transference and Projection.

Oliver Black

I am nothing like you, I’m a free thinking liberal agnostic. You are a right wing nutter.

Rick Lopez Jr.

Being against an evil, oppressive religion doesn’t make you right wing you stupid faggot. I’m a left wing, proud gay man and a progressive liberal and I can easily see how oppressive, systematic, and horrific a religion like Islam is. Why are you so fucking blind or bias?

Oliver Black

You clearly aren’t a gay progressive liberal if you use faggot as an insult and insult peoples religion. Why are you ignoring the millions of great Muslims in the world, over the past 10 years, most Nobel peace prize winners have been Muslim.

The most Nobel prize winners are muslim? I think someone is pulling your leg.
…1. I find 11 muslims, and all but 2 for Peace.
…2. Christians (423 prizes). Overall, Christians have won a total of 78.3% of all the Nobel Prizes in Peace, 72.5% in Chemistry, 65.3% in Physics, 62% in Medicine,[8] 54% in Economics[8] and 49.5% of all Literature awards.
…I know this last category won’t sit well, but it is what it is.
3. Jews 850 individuals,[2] of whom at least 22% (without peace prize over 24%) were Jews, although Jews comprise less than 0.2% of the world’s population[3] (or 1 in every 500 people). Overall, Jews have won a total of 41% of all the Nobel Prizes in economics, 28% of medicine, 26% of Physics, 19% of Chemistry, 13% of Literature and 9% of all peace awards.
from wikipedia.

Oliver Black

I can’t be bothered, have a look at the wikipedia page

Oliver Black

I said peace… I find it offensive that you would suggest Jews winning Nobel prizes and won’t sit well with me…

Now who is hateful and constantly offended, truth, spelling, Jews. But Islam is the faux-religion of permanent offense. It’s not my fault that Jews won a bunch of Nobel prizes. I celebrate the person for their accomplishment, not their religion. So Hard Darts that it doesn’t sit well with you.

Now who is hateful and constantly offended, truth, spelling, Jews. But Islam is the faux-religion of permanent offense. It’s not my fault that Jews won a bunch of Nobel prizes. I celebrate the person for their accomplishment, not their religion. So Hard Darts that it doesn’t sit well with you.

Oliver Black

Sorry, my phrasing may have been too complex for your brain cell. I said I don’t find the fact that jews have won nobel prizes offensive, what I find offensive is you suggesting that I would find it offensive.

Loren James

Ann Inquirer: Spend less time with google and more time with your kids. As you wrote – you have penises to clean. You are accomplishing nothing and being disrespectful and mean to people you know nothing about. Consider others’ feelings – not one Muslim here belongs to Isis or supports any of their ideals. Never forget that it was simply an accident of birth that you weren’t born into a Muslim family. Whatever your beliefs they don’t seem to include being respectful or humble. You are infected with hate and I am not sure that there is a treatment for that. Get help for no other reason than to spare your children from becoming what you are – whatever that may be. I feel for you.

Critical Thinker

Why then are you ignoring the millions of Muslims who either agree with or sympathize with the actions of organizations like ISIS or al qaeda, or millions who hold fast to Islamic law, not Western constitutionalism. This is a problem, and is rightfully being criticized when you consider recent historical context. Forget about the 7th century. Let’s look at the 21st century. You should listen to some of your elders in the U.K. who are NOT happy with the type of immigration going on there.

Oliver Black

These ‘millions’ are a fraction of a fraction of a percent of all muslims, I’m more worried about the loony christians to be honest. What is this ‘Islamic law’ you speak of, as far as I know my friends who are good muslims abide by our law, and agree with it… That is ironic, these ‘elders’ you speak of are stupid bigots, with not much left to live for, and they blame their hardship on immigrants instead of corporations, I on the other hand, am a student, who is in his last year in high school, predicted straight A*s, and has an offer from Cambridge, so you can shove that ‘elder’ crap where the sun doesn’t shine

Critical Thinker

One last thing Mr. Cambridge. I tried to respond to this twice already, but DISQUS won’t allow links, so here’s a response to your “fraction of a fraction of a percent of all Muslims (the millions you choose to ignore).

“One in four (27%) British Muslims say they have some sympathy for the motives behind the attacks on Charlie Hebdo in Paris.”

That could equate to oh, I don’t know… 17+ million Muslims in the UK alone who are crazy-pants.

Oliver Black

That is meaningless, I have some sympathy for the motives behind the attacks. Doesn’t make me a crazy-pants, it merely means I believe that it isn’t unreasonable for people to be annoyed about offensive images, doesn’t mean I would carry out the attacks, or that I support the attacks, all it means is I have some sympathy for the motives behind the attacks.
If a new publication constantly published cartoons about burning the American flag, and some lunatics attacked them as they found it offensive, I reckon >25% of all americans would have some sympathy for the motives behind the attacks, doesn’t mean they would carry them out themselves, or that they even support the attacks.

Critical Thinker

People burn the American flag all the time, particularly in Islamic countries… granted they also burn other flags too, but nonetheless, nobody in America who has any common sense or understands liberty or free speech would remotely sympathize with murdering another human being for burning a stupid flag. You are crazy-pants.

Oliver Black

You are very proficient at straw manning. Having sympathy with the motives, is not the same as having sympathizing with the action. Almost everyone in America would say that someone burning an American flag as a joke is wrong, sympathising with the motives. They wouldn’t all say that the flag burners should be brutally murdered. This 27% being ‘crazy-pants’ were expressing the former opinion.

Critical Thinker

You make an important distinction, but you’re skirting the bigger issue here. Let’s just agree to disagree. I’m tired of typing. You win Ollie.

Oliver Black

There is no ‘bigger issue’, the only bigger issue is that people don’t understand that 1 billion muslims in the world are living in peace, following values such as love thy neighbour, yet people believe they are all terrorists.

Naadhi Lennon

you called him a faggot? isn’t that offensive to you? Yet you live in a society that has no religion and still won’t let you marry! I support gay marriage, as we live in a country that claims to have a separation of church and state. I support equal rights for everyone- not just muslims!

Oliver Black

Ok, so if you see Islam as a religion of hatred, you must first see it in yourself, therefore, by your own admission, you are a horrible person.

No no, I am only quoting what Mo. has mandated, and to your taught-tolerance exposing truth makes me a horrible person.

Naadhi Lennon

Oliver, there’s a hadith about when the profit sent two people to Syria- one came back with tales of how beautiful and peaceful it was. The other came back with all the horrible and evil stuff he saw. The Prophet PBUH said each saw what was in his heart!

mirza

I apologize for muslims being so controlling of people spelling Annnn Inquerer

mirza

I apologize for muslims being so controlling of people spelling Annnn Inquerer

Rick Lopez Jr.

No, it’s Qu’ran you fucking imbecile.

Oliver Black

Exactly what I said… Can you read?

CoasterDeb

Oh please. You cannot tell us you know how to spell. Though you have been corrected numerous times, you refuse to learn and use the correct names. American exceptionalism is what you are trying to preach, That and that Christianity is the best religion. You are wrong on both counts. There is no right or wrong when it comes to religion. It is a person’s personal choice which religion, if any, they will follow. You are woefully uninformed and have no idea what proper research entails.

I have never mentioned being a christian, let alone it is the best religion. Religion is very personal, especially since it is mostly believing in delusions, I wouldn’t consider telling people mine was “the best.” I am tickled that people love to criticize the direct quotes from the koran, but don’t do their own research.

Christen Spahn

The Bible is more appalling. At least there aren’t perverted verses glorifying incest. I used to be a Christian until my mind matured and couldn’t take the millions of contradictions in the Bible. You are Anachronistically trying to cut and paste things from the Quran in order to make you feel better about the lies and hypocrisy in your own faith.

I am sure if we all focus on ourselves before demonizing others the world will be a better place. Until then peace and blessings be with you.

Rick Lopez Jr.

When did Jesus rape a nine year old in the Bible?

Christen Spahn

Anachronism, look it up. Mary pbuh Jesus’ mother was married to Joseph at 12 years old. Does that make him a rapist or a man of his times? Why do you hate/fear mongers insist on taking things out of context?

I was talking about the Bible which is not interchangeable with Jesus pbuh. I believe he would be appalled with what the lying pens of the scribes have come up with.

Christen Spahn

Anachronism, look it up.

Mary was 12 when she gave birth to Jesus. Different times my friend. An altogether different place.

Professor of Sociology Anthony Joseph Paul Cortese says that a 50 year old man being with a girl under 10 (being intimate) Under United States law was legal until the mid 1960s,

“In 1962, the American Law Institute recommended that the legal age of consent to sex- that is, the age below which sex is defined as statutory rape- be dropped in every state to age 10 (Katchadourian and Lund 1972: 439). In fact, until the mid 1960s, the legal age of consent in Delaware was 7 (Kling, 1965: 216). So a 50 year old man could legally have sexual intercourse with a 7 year old boy or girl.” …

What have you done in this research exactly? How many translations have you read? How many Imams or Islamic scholars have you discussed with about not only Islam but Arabic history? How many muslim followers have you conversed with, and from how many different countries aside from those who are from the middle east?

Reading about the Qur’an from one source, or online, especially from the tons of biased and cherry-pick websites, is not sufficient research. Criticism is fine, but I find that a lot of these “critics” are just narrow-minded and hate-filled Islamophobes that have done little to no legitimate research at all, and often times only get their source of information from websites that cherry-pick quotes from the Qur’an completely out of context.

Reem Hesham

first of all it’s called the Holly Quran and Prophet Muhammed peace be upon him, and if you actually made the effort to get your information from a trustworthy source rather than just the interenet or a book written by an ignorant writer, you would have known what a great man he was, it’s so ignorant to take texts out of context and try to explain it your own way. don’t judge a book from it’s cover, being a muslim following the Quran and my great prohpet’s teachings, i have managed to help so many people, treat people with kindness and generosity, smile at strangers, don’t hurt others or any living soul, be modest to help people see me for who i am inside, admire my personality not my body. there are so many great stories from the prophet’s life that if you had known of you would have been so ashamed of what you said about him, may God help you be kind to other religions and people who are different from you, peace 🙂

Oliver Black

Pretty sure you are taking it out of context… You are an awful Christian anyway, as you wear clothes made out of more than one material.

I know it’s so laughable, never heard that one before either. Plus I never stated I had a religion, though Islam is no religion, it is male supremacist fascism.

Oliver Black

Well, given my muslim friend can’t come out because his single mother makes him do chores, I wouldn’t call that male supremacist fascism

Mirza

If women are considered so low that they need to be hiding in some cave then can you please explain to me that why did so called “mo” say in a hadith “The Prophet Muhammad said, may Allah’s peace and blessings be upon him: Your Heaven lies under the feet of your mother (Ahmad, Nasai).” It’s probably because your getting your info from the Koran and we follow the Quran.

Chaapashay

You are somewhat correct Rebekah – Hebrew women are supposed to cover their hair when praying and prophesying…….

Kamimyla

No Christianity has killed more people than any other religion going all the way to the holy wars in Europe hundreds of years ago. You need to know your own history.

You are wrong. Estimate of moslem killings since the man who would be clinically diagnosed a psychopath started it all 1400 years ago is 270 million, in other words, genocide, but it’s probably more because of India. 22 people murdered per hour. This is 9 times the deaths of Hitler and Stalin combined, Google the numbers.
Islam has been at universal and perpetual war for 1400 years to obtain that oppressive caliphate (who wants everyone the same? not Americans). Christianity & Old Testament were at specific places of time, not universal and perpetual to get their way. Crusades were a defense against insistent Islamic invasions.

You are wrong. Estimate of moslem killings since the man who would be clinically diagnosed a psychopath started it all 1400 years ago is 270 million, in other words, genocide, but it’s probably more because of India. 22 people murdered per hour. This is 9 times the deaths of Hitler and Stalin combined, Google the numbers.
Islam has been at universal and perpetual war for 1400 years to obtain that oppressive caliphate (who wants everyone the same? not Americans). Christianity & Old Testament were at specific places of time, not universal and perpetual to get their way. Crusades were a defense against insistent Islamic invasions.

The muslim armies never “plundered”. By our religion, we are not allowed to kill anyone who isn’t attacking us. In war, we are not allowed to harm women, children, the elderly, the infrastructure, and just anyone in general not involved in the war. Unlike the crusades, which are famous for the blood baths, where blood reached the knees, where the christians armies raped, killed and burnt down cities and villages. We all know how harmful the crusades were, read ANY history book and it’ll tell you, you can never take away from muslims that we fought fairly. These suicide bombings are done by crazy minorities, which are present in every religions, so lay off the “crazy religion” case. Suicide bomings are haram in our religion, and those who do it are going to hell.

StokeDaddyC

Not to mention the Crusades sacked and plundered multiple Christian cities, namely Constantinople

I don’t know what you call what ISIS is doing anything but “plundering,” all based on directives from Mo. himself. You are reading a very revised history book if you think any side on any war fights “fairly.”
I am not on an “crazy minorities” case. Jihadists are doing EXACTLY as Mo. mandated in the Koran. Read Surah 9. The problem is, 2:106 and the verses that Mo. said are from then on valid are not taught in the mosques, (maybe to men behind closed doors).
But make no mistake, ISIS are fundamentalists, the most conformist to the dictates of the “Perfect Man.” It is normal people, some of whom are caught up in the lie of Islam as peace, who are in denial as to who the actual Muslims are – again that is accordingto the koran.

Oliver Black

I don’t think any Muslims follow this Koran you speak of… All of them follow the Qur’an, which when taken in its entirety isis a book of love and kindness towards others…

Koran citings for the Doctrine of Abrogation Mo. made it up. Note at the end the citings of the two teachings.
THE LAW OF ABROGATION: [According to the Quran itself (Sura 2:106, 13:39 and 16:103) God sometimes substitutes a “better” verse or passage for one previously given, thus superceding the first one. Sura 2:106: “None of our revelations (verses) do we abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but we substitute something better or similar. Knowest thou not that God hath power over all things?”; Sura 13:39: “God doth blot out or confirm what he pleaseth. With Him is the Mother of the Book.”; Sura 16:101: “When we substitute one revelation for another, – and God knows best what He reveals (in stages), – they say, ‘Thou are but a forger’ but most of them understand not.”
Although all Muslim scholars believe that God replaced some earlier verses by substituting later verses, there is a great difference of opinion among them as to which verses supercede which verses. Nevertheless, most are agreed that Sura 9:5, (called “the verse of the sword”) supercedes most of the previous verses regarding jihad. Some believe it supercedes as many as 111 previous verses. In spite of this general agreement, many today quote the previous replaced verses in order to validate their perception of Islam being a peaceful religion. Thus modern, liberal Muslim leaders, especially here in the west, are teaching what could be called “the Islam of Mecca” with its emphasis on non violence and tolerance. At the same time, “the Islam of Medina,” with its more aggressive, totalitarian nature is what is being practiced and taught by orthodox, fundamentalist Muslims in most parts of the Muslim world.]

Oliver Black

My perfect man? I’m agnostic…

Oliver Black

I don’t think any Muslims follow this Koran you speak of… All of them follow the Qur’an, which when taken in its entirety isis a book of love and kindness towards others…

Oliver Black

I don’t think any Muslims follow this Koran you speak of… All of them follow the Qur’an, which when taken in its entirety isis a book of love and kindness towards others…

Jeanine El Moghrabi

Okay lady, 1. Don’t you DARE try and pass of my religion as anything but peaceful, you’re christian! You guys killed a lot more than we ever did, and don’t even try and say otherwise. I don’t go around yelling christians are crazy terrorists killing randomly (although you did, and you do have your crazy extemists, and look at the killings the catholics are still doing in arfrica)
2. Again, ISIS is an extremist minority that took advantage of the war and famine spreading through the east to recruit uneducated individuals who have been mistreated all their lives and now want to take it out on everyone, muslims and non-muslims.
3.ISIS is interpreting the Quran (please spell it correctly, are you thick in the head?) how they want. The Quran is not straight forward, it can be interpreted in different ways, but you wouldn’t know that because you have no idea what youre arguing about, do you?
4. Be respectful and don’t call my prophet “Mo”, you sound ridiculous using it as well, spare yourself the embaressment.

Jeanine El Moghrabi

Okay lady, 1. Don’t you DARE try and pass of my religion as anything but peaceful, you’re christian! You guys killed a lot more than we ever did, and don’t even try and say otherwise. I don’t go around yelling christians are crazy terrorists killing randomly (although you did, and you do have your crazy extemists, and look at the killings the catholics are still doing in arfrica)
2. Again, ISIS is an extremist minority that took advantage of the war and famine spreading through the east to recruit uneducated individuals who have been mistreated all their lives and now want to take it out on everyone, muslims and non-muslims.
3.ISIS is interpreting the Quran (please spell it correctly, are you thick in the head?) how they want. The Quran is not straight forward, it can be interpreted in different ways, but you wouldn’t know that because you have no idea what youre arguing about, do you?
4. Be respectful and don’t call my prophet “Mo”, you sound ridiculous using it as well, spare yourself the embaressment.

Love your DARE, and then peaceful in the same sentence. Dare or what? Whip me, behead me? It exemplifies intolerance. I have never ever stated what religion I am on this page. For all you know I am an atheist. Also if muslims are tolerant, have been taught tolerance, then it should be easy to tolerate something simple as a difference in spelling. Koran is proper English.
…ISIS is not extremist, that is media propaganda. They are fundamentalists doing the fundamental acts mandated by Mo. That is the part of the koran that Mo. himself says is valid after he canceled his peace verses in 2:106 (Doctrine of Abrogation detailed by islamic scholars, please google it)
…I use Mo. because it is quick to type, and it doesn’t embarrass me. Should I use the longer “Proclaimed Himself a Prophet?” or “Self-Proclaimed Perfect Man?” (which would clinically be diagnosed as narcissism.)

Jeanine El Moghrabi

Oh wow, you jump to conclusions fast don’t you. Hey, people accuse others of things because that’s the way they think….clearly that’s all that’s going through your mind.
It’s Quran, stop trying.
So the link you sent me is clearly wrong, corrupt and from crazy extremisits because every single link that came up is blocked (I live in the UAE, they try and prevent any sort of crazy extremists rising from any religion, so any threatening sites that promote incorrect information about religions is blocked).
But I’ll tell you this, the prophet was not allowed to “remove” or “add” things, it is gods book, and it is unchanged.
And if you think our religion is so wrong, then google all the things the quran as predicted and tell me how any mortal man could have known. It is gods words, not his.

Jeanine El Moghrabi

Oh wow, you jump to conclusions fast don’t you. Hey, people accuse others of things because that’s the way they think….clearly that’s all that’s going through your mind.
It’s Quran, stop trying.
So the link you sent me is clearly wrong, corrupt and from crazy extremisits because every single link that came up is blocked (I live in the UAE, they try and prevent any sort of crazy extremists rising from any religion, so any threatening sites that promote incorrect information about religions is blocked).
But I’ll tell you this, the prophet was not allowed to “remove” or “add” things, it is gods book, and it is unchanged.
And if you think our religion is so wrong, then google all the things the quran as predicted and tell me how any mortal man could have known. It is gods words, not his.

It might occur to you that when freedom of information is squashed, they don’t want you to know the truth. But I’m glad to know your are in the UAE. I have some sincere questions.
First and foremost: Do you believe that everyone in the world MUST live under Islam and it caliphate? (simple yes or no)
Have you undergone FGM? (Circumcision is obligatory (for every male and female) by cutting off the piece of skin on the glans of the penis of the male, but circumcision of the female is by cutting out the clitoris (this is called Hufaad) Reliance of the Traveler, Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri) See more below.
Can you drive?
Can you go out on the street alone or can you be with other females, or must you be with a male relative and covered in a berka?
Mo. changed dictates, removed and added as his so-called convenient revelations came to him. Mo died in 632. The koran we see today was compiled by Uthman the third caliph (653-656). It is not complied chronologically, but by length of chapter/book.

@Jeanine The following quotation is taken from Reliance of the Traveller, Revised edition, amana publications, Beltsville, 1997. The title page informs us that this book is
The Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law ‘Umdat al-Salik
by Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri (d. 769/1368) in Arabic with
Facing English Text, Commentary, and Appendices
Edited and Translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller
In this book, in the section titled “THE BODY”, we find on page 59 the following entry:
Nuh Hah Mim Keller’s TranslationArabic Original
e4.3 Circumcision is obligatory (O: for both men and women. For men it consists of removing the prepuce from the penis, and for women, removing the prepuce (Ar. Bazr) of the clitoris (n: not the clitoris itself, as some mistakenly assert). (A: Hanbalis hold that circumcision of women is not obligatory but sunna, while Hanafis consider it a mere courtesy to the husband.)” so only the man can enjoy sex! This is why I call it male supremacist fascism.

However what the Arabic actually says is (it won’t copy & paste here)
“Circumcision is obligatory (for every male and female)
by cutting off the piece of skin on the glans of the penis of the male,
but circumcision of the female is by cutting out the clitoris
(this is called HufaaD). {bold emphasis ours}
The Arabic word bazr does not mean “prepuce of the clitoris”, it means the clitoris itself (cf. the entry in the Arabic-English Dictionary). The deceptive translation by Nuh Hah Mim Keller, made for Western consumption, obscures the Shafi’i law, given by ‘Umdat al-Salik, that circumcision of girls by excision of the clitoris is mandatory. This particular form of female circumcision is widely practiced in Egypt, where the Shafi’i school of Sunni law is followed.”

Jeanine El Moghrabi

No genius, it’s called preventing a new branch of religion forming or letting people become extremists, the exact opposite of what you’re implying. The UAE focuses only on the teachings of the prophet and the Quran, non of the unclear questionable things are followed. And please, you live in America, the most ignorant country in existence, you have some nerve talking about the UAE like that, it’s way more civilised than your hillbilly country. And what am I, some kind of specimen to question me like that? But since your questions are absolutely outrageous, ignorant and show just how uneducated you are, I will.
Yes, Islam is the best form of democracy (since the whole world uses our system of democracy these days, your welcome). If everyone followed the islamic way, with all the obligatory donations yearly (based on your salary it varies of course) then there would be no poverty, as it was in the Islamic nations when islam first started, now unfortunately not all countries follow the true way and have modified it to their liking.
2. Oh my god, how vulgar, were you raised by street bums, who talks like that. And no, of course not! Only men are supposed to be circumcised! Some TRIBES (in other words, very unevolved) circumcise because of CULTURAL reasons, and it is actually illegal in the UAE (which follows Islamic law, female circumcision is frowned upon). How clueless are you? How can you even be debating this much and you’re this lost?
3. OMG what is this, even in Saudi arabia women can walk around alone as long as they’re in an abaya, you’re blowing my mind here, are you just being rude or ar you actually this ignorant? I went to mixed schools and I’m in a mixed university, it’s very normal! Ask any british person, half of Britain lives here, living freely dressing in bikinis and what not an no one cares! I can’t believe you’re this clueless! No wonder you’re so angry! Of course I can drive, we all have our own cars here!
Seeing just how lost and ignorant your are, I am not replying to you anymore, you’re too uneducated for my standards.

Most of the rest of the world considers public beheadings uncivilized, though I have to say that Saudi king’s executioner is more than fast with his scimitar. Mostly we just see videos of the crude beheadings by ISIS. Most of the rest of the world considers whip lasing uncivilized for fornication, and especially stoning a woman for her rape. Barbaric really.
You say you don’t need men and can walk around alone, but must be in abaya. I’m glad I don’t have to be made to wear one.
Who’s angry? That’s your projection. Tone does not come thru in writing. But since you don’t like America, I have a solution, don’t ever come here. I have no intention of going to a moslem country, that is for sure. Having to get past the airport fascists, I wouldn’t get out of the airport in Dubai even if I had a box at the horse races for the World Cup.

Jeanine El Moghrabi

I’ve replied to the same exact points a thousand times and you still don;t get it. ONLY saudi is that extreme, in the prophets time nothing was forced upon you. Every other arab/islamic country is chill, they don;t care, but you don;t seem to want to accept that so whatever. Go die in a ditch or something, you’re to radical and close minded for me. I cant believe people like you still exist, evolution messed up a lot when it got to you, you’re a disgrace to the human race, no one can be this thick-headed and stupid.

Loren James

Ann Inquirer: There are many, many westerners who don’t like ‘America’ trust me. I have spent time in a Muslim country and never did I hear such anger and bitterness and hate as you have. No Muslim country has every had their armed forces invade, occupy and kill Americans. 10’s of thousands of innocents were killed by your America – do you wonder why some hate you? You do such a disservice to your country and to the more enlightened peace-loving Americans. BTW, your very ignorant posts say that you will never go much further than your own small world so you have no reason to fear ‘airport fascists’. You have much more reason to fear your own police force and your armed citizenry.

Oliver Black

Most of the western world considers death penalties and invading middle eastern countries with lies about weapons of mass destruction, when really all you want is their oil, uncivilised, hasn’t stopped the US though.

Hamidah Fawad

I am a Muslim woman living in Pakistan who does not wear a hijab or burkha/abaya. I m not forced to do so although my husband and in laws are religious and a bit conservative. There is no concept of female circumcision in a highly Islamic country like Pakistan. and male circumcision is mandatory in both Judaism and Islam and there is a medical benefit of this process. You can definitely Google this. I also drive, am more highly educated than my husband and work for one of the leading MNC’s in the world. I go everywhere on my own. There is no one stoning me or stopping me. You seriously need to stop watching Fox News

I was asking about in the UAE.
Medical benefit to circumcision? Humans would have mutated off the prepuce, if it wasn’t needed. I didn’t have my sons circumcised and they are clean. It’s called soap and water. A decision like that should be left up to the mature owner of the body, not a baby. None of them have chosen circumcision. The prepuce not a problem and keep the penis more sensitized for sex, or so I am told.

Loren James

Ann Inquirer: Read this slowly if it will help. FGM is not Islamic. It is a cultural thing. There are Christians and Jews as well as Muslims who do it. As for male circumcision, there can be adult problems which do require circumcision to correct. Look up phimosis , paraphimosis and balantis before you damn the practice of circumcision. And, yes, there are babies born with no prepuce. Stop yacking and listen once in a while. Do it for your kids.

Hamidah Fawad

Have you ever been to the UAE. Women there drive, work, wear whatever they want to, party.

As for male circumcision, it is part of both Judaism and Islam. And it is the choice of the followers what they want to do. If you are neither Jew or a Muslim then it doesnt affect you. But if you are, you can choose not to. Noone is going to force you. But there is no mention of female circumcision in Islam. It is mostly practiced in African countries which is predominantly a cultural practice rather than religious.

However, I have been reading your comments on this website. Many people have pointed out certain truths to you, including non-muslims, but your mind is too colsed to look at any of the arguments presented with an open and unbiased mind. There is too much hatred in you for a religion and people who actually have nothing to do with you and probably have never harmed you in any way either. However, in case a Muslim has caused you any kind of harm or bother I apologise on their behalf. You can choose to have Muslim friends or you can choose not to. Noone is forcing you and noone is trying to impose Sharia law on you. Peace

Loren James

Ann Inquirer: Female genital mutilation has nothing to do with Islam or any other religion. It is a cultural thing practiced by certain tribes in Africa. Some African Muslims do it as well as African Christians and until recently African Jews in Nigeria.
I’m not sure how you survive the effects of all the cortisol your body produces while you rant and rave. Get a hobby or do something positive. You are wasting your life.

Jeanine El Moghrabi

Oh, one last point, nothing in our religion is “hidden”. Islam is famous for its preserved book, you go anywhere and the Quran is exactly the same. Can’t say the same for christianity though, you guys have 3 editions… tsk tsk..
Our Quran is peaceful, and you have no right claiming otherwise. If so, then your mind is plagued by filthy hill billy American propaganda, which has done such a good job brain washing their people and keeping them all “safe” and uneducated. Read a real book or reliable source for once in your life, not those retarded prejuidice ones.

If you are saying I have no right, then you are saying you Mohammad has no right. He’s the one who came up with all the genocidal dictates, not me. The “retarded prejudice ones” I read are YOUR koran, hadiths and bukari. Also Reliance of the Traveler. Sorry to be bursting bubbles, I know it’s hard having what is actually in the koran exposed (and conveniently left out by the imam in your mosque). Use google.

Jeanine El Moghrabi

Alright, can you please send me these so called phrases in the Quran (for the love of god, really? How did you pass primary school) that call for the blood of every non-muslim or whatever you’re ranting on about.

Sara Mills

you are taking ISIS to mean ALL Muslims? is the Religious Right ALL Christians? no so stop acting like it is! Why did ISIS start again? OHHHH thats right US involvement in the region for monetary gain.

In essence you are correct, but it is the ones who are violent that get their political agenda accomplished. Only 7% of Germans belonged to the Nazi Party and we see what devastation they accomplished. Plus ISIS are the purist of moslems because they use the koran as Mo. wrote it, as he abrogated it to use violence to spread Islam with no choice. They are fundamentalists, not radicals or extremists. If islam was in reality peaceful then its extremists would be extremely peaceful.

CoasterDeb

Gawd, read a book already! Listen to those who ARE Muslim, not Fox ‘News’ and the other right wing misinformation sites where you seem to be finding your ‘facts’. ISIS =/= Muslim. ISIS are extremists and do NOT represent all or even many Muslims. Does the KKK represent all Christians? No, but they ARE a Christian-identified organization. Same deal. You cannot paint an entire religion by the extremists within it. Just like there are objectionable and out-dated concepts in the Bible, there are some in the Quran. No surprise, they were written long time ago when societies were different. You embarrass literate, educated Americans who can embrace religious freedom and freedom from religion. You know – the basis for our government, a secular nation.

I don’t have TV, so no fox news. I never said ISIS represents all moslems. I said they are not extremists because the follow the dictates of Mo. to the letter, they are fundamentalists. Before Mo died he made sure that there can be no reform of the koran and its doesn’t matter the time, that is why it has been universal and perpetual violence. Reform is a beheading offense. Al-Sissi has called for it, but he is now a walking dead man for it. However what does not change is that most all moslems think the rest of the world should live under Islam, its caliphate and sharia. Google for the statistic, it’s something like 80% think that. I embrace freedom from religion, that is why i find Islam so dangerous.

I don’t have TV, so no fox news. I never said ISIS represents all moslems. I said they are not extremists because the follow the dictates of Mo. to the letter, they are fundamentalists. Before Mo died he made sure that there can be no reform of the koran and its doesn’t matter the time, that is why it has been universal and perpetual violence. Reform is a beheading offense. Al-Sissi has called for it, but he is now a walking dead man for it. However what does not change is that most all moslems think the rest of the world should live under Islam, its caliphate and sharia. Google for the statistic, it’s something like 80% think that. I embrace freedom from religion, that is why i find Islam so dangerous.

Paul Van Doren

So on 9-11 when their was nursery with children and women in the world trade centers and running planes into, them that was ok though right? I can show you tons of video’s of all the Muslim countries cheering and praising Allah for these planes, and thank they hit their targets, but I guess that’s a different story. What about all the family’s that had to run to the mountains so Isis wouldn’t kill them, and these were men and women, not solider’s, but I guess that is all lies too. I guess I don’t have friends trying to protect people, innocent people from Shari Law Muslims? Tell me more about how a American solider isn’t doing what they are doing?

Oliver Black

If your family was murdered by people from Saudi Arabia would you be pleased if some of your fellow countrymen flew a plane into one of their super tall skyskrappers? Because that is all they are doing, they are pleased for secular reasons, and when you say ‘praising allah’, all you mean is saying things like, ‘thank god’, which doesn’t necessarily mean you are a religious fanatic.

Oliver Black

Seems like a bit of colonisation to me, something the Christian world did an awful lot of.

The issue is not what the Christian world did, the issue is what the Muslim world is doing now. Muslims always use diversionary tactics away from the real issue: the universal and perpetual violence mandated to its followers to bring in a caliphate the rest of the world does not want or need.

Oliver Black

Every day, I attend college with, and am friends with Muslims, they aren’t violent, or trying to start a caliphate. Did you know that most of the Nobel peace prize winners over the past 10 years have been Muslim?

Jeanine El Moghrabi

Oh so we can’t look at the dirty past of christianity, but we can look at the alleged dark past of Islam? Hypocrite.

I am concentrating on what affects me,i n the here and now and crimes against humanity allowed by this fascism. You can look into either pasts all you want, I don’t care about that, but your’s a diversionary tactic to take away attention from the real issue, the crimes against humanity Islam allows, ie genocide.

Jeanine El Moghrabi

I’m not diverting you from anything, hahaha so paranoid. I’m simply pointing out the painfully obvious hypocrisy because you keep listing the same points and I keep showing you just how silly you are. Carry on.

Stop the bossy, but that’s the way the male supremacist fascism is. – I use a correct spelling in English. It’s quicker to type too. Hate where the Q is placed on the keyboard. Hard Darts if it bugs you.

Jeanine El Moghrabi

I love how you haven’t replied to any of my responses. And omg, do you hear yourself? “A bit bla bla” they’re colonising! They’re supposed to spread! Christians did it! The English did it! And so many others! But oh, wait no, I’m sorry, it doesnt apply to us muslims does it? We’re not allowed to colonise? Only the non-muslims? You just seem angry that we did a pretty good job of colonising. And secondly, when Islam spread, it gave those in the country it took over choices (which you christians didn’t, you just killed, pillaged and raped, but we’re the monsters). They could convert OR pay taxes to live in the land protected by muslims. I have read many enteries by Jews and christians alike that loved living in Muslim land during our golden ages (your dark ages), since it was safe, clean (same can’t be said for those filthy, plague ridden christian countries…) and most of all, Islam had education (which you didn’t, first university EVER was built by a muslim WOMAN, how’s that for “oppression”). MUSLIM scholars created half the crap you westerners use today, so please, stop your useless rant.

Paul Van Doren

Jeanine El Moghrabi the first known buildings where built by The Freemasons of the world. They had the first colleges and traits, and they built Salome’s Temple. Funny how your religion destroyed it. You don’t know about the Freemasons, because they don’t want to know you. The dark ages was from not having good hygiene with starting new cities, and not to mention bad weather for no crops. The ottoman empire was strong, but also started the slave trade. Ottoman picked the wrong side of Africa is all. They also tried to let Muslims and Christians together, and you see the end result. The biggest part that you seem to miss is America has freedom of speech and if we want to hold a contest and see who can draw the best Mo as you all call him, we have that right. Your religion tried to kill the women in Texas saying that is blasting your religion. Really sorry for that, but this is America, and we can draw anything we want. This is the difference from all other religions. People have done art of Jesus in poop, and the Christians didn’t like it but they didn’t try to kill the person how did it. Muslims want to live under Shari Law eventually, and that will never work in America, because women will have a right to own land hear. If you don’t believe me just look up Michigan which is a state in the USA, they tried to vote in Shari Law in 2007. Women wont be able to leave their house without a man. Women cant drive really? This religion starts out harmless, but look at videos from England when a taxi driver tries to go to a Muslim area, he gets spit on, and called all racist names, and this is OK with your religion. I can give you tons of other things that are true because my friends are still fighting over in your Ottoman land.

The slave trade goes back to Mohammad, he was a slave trader and enjoyed his captive women immensely. Gave permission for his clones to rape too. Africa became a human disaster because of him and them.
Sharia is being lived under now – the police woman stupidly accepting it is a perfect example – it is the Caliphate that moslems want to live under, as well as the rest of the world.
good post.

Oliver Black

Pretty sure most of the slave trade was done by the british (I’m not proud to say)

Loren James

Slavery was a practice encouraged by the God of the Christian Bible LONG before Islam.

Loren James

Slavery was a practice encouraged by the God of the Christian Bible LONG before Islam.

Islam demands that every person be muslim, that is the issue. No sane person wants to convert to live under sharia where women can be killed for not covering their face or having a hair peek out, let alone watching their babies tafkhiz’d by their so-called husbands. Why in the hell should I pay some male supremacist pig a tax for living? Ain’t gonna happen, and doesn’t sit well with the rest of the billions on the planet.Americans are too independent for that BS, it might have made some headway in Europe, but we see what has happened and are forewarned. This police hijabi is a start that after we get rid of our Moslem in Chief Obama we can do something about.

Jeanine El Moghrabi

Again, where are these ridiculous sources of yours from? They’re hilarious, you must share them with me. I said it once, I’ll say it again, no women is going to be abused or killed if she doesn’t wear the hijab and cover up, you thick-headed, uneducated, uncultured woman. Put on your thinking cap, and get that brain of yours running. And the fact that they could pay taxes to live in clean and educational islamic land was a blessing, you Christians gave no one that choice, you killed/raped/tortured first (women, children etc…). So who are the monsters here? Death is a last resort for us, you all went in guns blazing. Colonisations involve taking over countries, that’s the definition, that’s what half the world besides Muslims did, why do we have to justify it? And of course we want everyone to be Muslim, that’s every religions goals! To convert people! Are you teally this stupid? My brain can’t handle this… You’re too uneducated, it’s physically painful

Oliver Black

Again, misrepresenting mainstream muslins.

trop68

“Islam is the most evil ideology to ever get a foothold in the USA.”?? Eh, no, That would be Zionism.

not true.
Deaths by Jihad over 1400 years: Google it.
Christians 60 million
Hindus 80 million
Buddhists 10 million
African 120 million
Total 270 million
….22 deaths by jihadists every minute. 9 times more deaths than Hitler and Stalin combined.

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Jeanine El Moghrabi

Google has a lot of unreliable sources genius. Please remeber that. Oh but you’re a gullible american, you believe everything that your government feeds you, like good little sheep!

Jeanine El Moghrabi

Google has a lot of unreliable sources genius. Please remeber that. Oh but you’re a gullible american, you believe everything that your government feeds you, like good little sheep!

Sara Mills

What about all the Killing Christians have done in the name of god? do those not count. Islam is a religion that should get just as much respect as any other.

Russell’s Teapot

Huh, kinda sounds exactly like the christians here in America, who are actually whining about needing special accommodations. So why is it that you choose to focus solely on a Muslim woman?

dyg70

You realize cops deal with people from all walks of life, right? So more diversity is a good thing, right?

The name calling starts when the argument is lost. It takes one to think they know one. In psychology it is called Transference or Projection – the old it takes one to think they know one. You don’t even have any idea what sex or race I actually am, you are only running off assumptions and your stereotypes.

Oliver Black

Sex and race don’t come in to it, I have revision to do, for proper subjects (a.k.a. not psychology).

Loren James

Hate has no sex or race.

Jeanine El Moghrabi

Don’t give up! All her points are weak! She’s the typical ignorant type we all must encounter one day on the internet, her points are very generic

Oliver Black

I give up trying to deradicalise her, she is more radicalised than ISIS

As a paraplegic the last thing i can do is behead people or rape them, sell them into slavery. But you are right that ISIS is not radicalized, it is fundamental and faithful to the mandates of islam.

Jess_BartWilliams

HBK, I’m trying to read what you wrote, but… The 9th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution seems to disagree with what you seem to be describing as the U.S. Constitution.

By the way, did you catch that scathing U.N. report on our systemic human rights violations? WAY more interesting…

JaxRN

A hijab is worn to show modesty. If she chooses to wear it then that is her right as an American. She is dressed in the proper uniform. If it were not allowed as part of her uniform then she would have to get another job. Asking her to take it off would be the same as asking her to come to work with a push up bra, low cut shirt and short skirt. America has no official religion and it doesn’t even have an official language. Freedom is what this county was built on. The land of the free and the home of the brave afraid of a woman covering her hair?

You miss the point. She has accepted her own submission to male supremacist fascism. In some countries if she is not fully covered, she would be lashed or beheaded. In Mosul last month a woman was shot on the street after 5 minutes with ISIS for not having her face covered. Think it can’t happen here? Think again, especially as we have sharia enforced no-go zones in a place like Dearbornistan, MI. Honor killings have been happening here for years too.
Moslems are using our freedoms to chip away and ultimately stifle our freedoms little by little. The have done this in every country to which they have immigrated.
Personally I predict Kadra is going to have a hard time with it. People still resent 9/11 and hijab is an obnoxious symbol of it. Obnoxious because of what Mo. did and people still do in his name. Read Chapter/Surah 9 of the koran.

Oliver Black

You’re an obnoxious symbol of religious intolerance.

consiti ess

Your point is most reasonable and very logical but the blind among Americans will not agree with you. These people are not tolerant at all, especially when they outnumber others and begin to enforce their “practices” on others. You either comply or lose your head…..(beheading of non hijab wearing people).

Are talking about Oklahoma? That was a moslem who beheaded his office mate because she would not become a moslem and cover her head.

Oliver Black

Anecdotal evidence, the bane of rational discussion.

Kyle

Why can’t humans just live like humans? What does hiding a piece of yourself have to do anything? What does religion have to do with the way you do your job? Also there are not just ‘small problems’ in the US, the US is known for systemic racism and discrimination (which you seem to be apart of, the UN should talk to you). We are only humans and we have the right to express ourselves. That woman wearing that over her head has nothing to do with her performance, The US constitution and Islam are two different things obviously you cannot compare them, one is not a religion. Islam is not a cult.

thenewmasses

Officers need to build trust in the communities they serve and reflecting the make-up of those communities is a big part of that. I’m glad victims, especially female victims, within St. Paul’s large Somali community will have someone culturally competent to talk to.

It’s now called Winter Holiday and encompasses the brutal, barbaric, bloody EID.

Critical Thinker

You sound like a child. A whiney, spoiled child.

Oliver Black

Not gonna lie, that sounds more whiney than he did.

Tatiana Green

So should christian cops not be able to wear a necklace with a cross on it either?

Critical Thinker

Not on the outside of their uniform, no. It’s not standard issue or part of the uniform.

Shammua Mekonnen

Now, from a realistic position, good Police Men/Women see bad Police doing wrong and say or do nothing, 95% of the time, that makes them just as bad. Will this sister be like the good police, looking the other way, just to be accepted??????

Shammua Mekonnen

Sorry. Congratulation to her for the career move though.

Yehudit Bat Avraham

Bravo for her!!! Muslim women, Jewish women, Jewish men, Sikh men…there are A LOT of people who observe head covering as form of religious modesty. Forbidding an element of one’s religion (unless in the rare case that it obstructs your ability to do your job) is wrong and just mean-spirited.

Jeane Thompson

I think it is possible a hijab could obstruct a police-person’s hearing and peripheral vision.

trop68

I dont. And I think thats a cop out (excuse the pun) of an excuse for bigotry.

doobiedoo

So next nuns i habits ? or how about instituting Sharia law so they can carry daggers as well..

Oliver Black

Please explain this Sharia law you talk of, pretty sure it doesn’t really exist. And anyway, if the police carried knives instead of pistols there would be less brutal shootings.

Oliver Black

Please explain this Sharia law you talk of, pretty sure it doesn’t really exist. And anyway, if the police carried knives instead of pistols there would be less brutal shootings.

Oliver Black

Please explain this Sharia law you talk of, pretty sure it doesn’t really exist. And anyway, if the police carried knives instead of pistols there would be less brutal shootings.

I would post sources, but I can’t post links here, either way, you are so stuck in your ideological echo chamber, I wouldn’t expect you to read them.

doobiedoo

then don’t waste your time..

doobiedoo

then don’t waste your time..

Critical Thinker

Sharia law doesn’t exist? How about Saudi Arabia?

Oliver Black

That is just racism in Saudi Arabia, they lie about islam to control the populace.

Critical Thinker

SMH

Oliver Black

What is that supposed to mean?

Critical Thinker

“JUST RACISM”. The legal system of Saudi Arabia is based on Sharia Law (or Islamic Law). The Saudi govt. in fact just posted an advertisement for 8 new executioners to carry out increased demand for death sentences, which are normally done as beheadings in public.

Oliver Black

I meant to say fascism, and, calling sharia law, Islamic law, is very naïve. It shows you don’t understand that the so called ‘sharia law’ that Saudi Arabia has is purely to achieve secular aims, and sharia law is actually just the five pillars of islam, nothing more, nothing less.

Hamidah Fawad

Additionally a nun’s habit would hinder the nun in the performance of her duties. A Hijab does not. If it did, there would be no Sikh policemen in India as it is mandatory for Sikhs not to cut their hair and they have to wear a turban. But we don’t see anyone objecting to that. Although the turban is to Sikh men what the hijab is to Muslim women.

doobiedoo

Why did you come here if you wanted to bring your country with you, why didn’t you stay in your country ?

pacificsparkles

Should anyone paid by tax dollars be allowed to impose religious behavioral beliefs into the civil system which by law is not to have regard on the basis of creed, religion or gender? No one keeps anyone from being part of the legal enforcement. Individuals religious beliefs constrain their behaviors and garb and they choose to elevate the religious mandate over those of a the civil society.

You are misinformed, wearing a Hijab is a woman’s own choice, and it has nothing to do with submitting to men.

Islam Al Amrikee

Not as stupid as you, Rick, apparently. Its a cover of modesty. When you go to the beach, I guess you would at least wear a swimsuit? Why? A little modesty maybe? Hers is just to a greater extent. Also, God knows. He doesn’t have to think.

trop68

Yes plenty of differant occupations paid by tax dollars should be allowed to display (not impose) their religous beliefs. However, I dont think a police force should be allowed. I think the job involved in law inforcment their officers should show impartiality. If that infringes on someones religous freedoms while at work then so be it.

Oliver Black

Pretty sure expressing your beliefs isn’t the same as imposing a mandate… Would you ban public service workers from wearing crucifixes then?

Just Chilling

This is awesome to me and I’m not a Muslim.

Kevin Nelson

Hiding behind a keyboard, are also against Catholic Nuns wearing a habit or Sikh police officers. The British government and Indian government have had problems with them. Secondly, Article 6 Sectors 2 states that the supreme law of the land is the Constitution. Jewish cops in the NYPD are allowed to wear yarmulke and they’ve never tried to enforce Mosaic laws. Your logic is based on prejudicial views.

None of the clothing articles you mention represent oppression. Covering up is mandated which a muslima MUST keep or she is responsible for her own rape because her curves and hair “harass” men, thus they can’t help but commit rape on her since they have no self control, but then they don’t need it because they are the male supremacist fascists. I see the hijab and I see stonings of women who are innocent and the rapists not in prison.

trop68

Thats odd, cause I live in the Islamic State of Malaysia and Muslim women wear the head covering if they choose. Some days I would see a girl wearing the Hajab and the next day she wouldnt. So you are not really talking facts are you? You are just spweing out hate filled bigotry.

It’s your Koran. Read it. I posted here in another comment what Mo. said about women MUST be covered. ALL muslims are suppose to do exactly what he says because he declared himself the Perfect Man.

Jeanine

The Quran (the least you could do is look up the correct spelling), does say we must cover up, but it doesn’t you’ll get stoned if you don’t. And what the hell do you care if we want to cover up, we don’t comment about how in your culture, men have wired and controlled media until women feel compelled to walk around in barely any clothing to feel attractive.

Jeanine

The Quran (the least you could do is look up the correct spelling), does say we must cover up, but it doesn’t you’ll get stoned if you don’t. And what the hell do you care if we want to cover up, we don’t comment about how in your culture, men have wired and controlled media until women feel compelled to walk around in barely any clothing to feel attractive.

Jeanine

The Quran (the least you could do is look up the correct spelling), does say we must cover up, but it doesn’t you’ll get stoned if you don’t. And what the hell do you care if we want to cover up, we don’t comment about how in your culture, men have wired and controlled media until women feel compelled to walk around in barely any clothing to feel attractive.

Rick Lopez Jr.

WRONG DUMBSHIT. Studies show that it’s actually WOMEN who control most of the advertising, because studies show CONCLUSIVELY in MANY, MANY well documented studies that A: Men like looking at women, and B. Women like looking at women. Women are more often used to advertise to woman instead of attractive men for a reason. And who cares? Nudity is natural. Being submissive to an imaginary fictional character in the sky or else he’ll think you’re a slut is delusional and mental illness.

Now you are at the core of the issue, Rick – no revelations from imaginary Gabriel (because what was “given” was oh-so convenient for the time Mo. needed that directive, ie kill the guy who is criticising Mo.) and no imaginary friend of either Gabriel or Mo. who he named Allah. The citizens of Mecca weren’t buying that this con-man had any connections to THEIR Abraham/Hagar/Ismael either. Even in Mecca he was not good at holding his temper, but he went psychopathic in Medina. It’s the biggest hoax in history, until the internet, until billions of people could get their hands on information about this thug, and his con-man lie of peace and tolerance when it’s fascism kept going and going and going thru resurrected clones, also taught to be psychopathic, – and that is clinically diagnosed psychopathy. All of Chapter/Surah 9 meets the DSMIV criteria for a psychopath.

Wayne Wilhelm

Women who walk around in barely any clothing don’t do it to feel attractive in a male controlled world. They do so to compete with other women for the attention of the males. It is their competition with other women that leads them to dress the way they do, not the dictates of men. During the warmer months, I tend to run around wearing little more than a pair of shorts; but I do it to keep cool, not impress others with my looks. Most women dress more reasonably when they no longer view themselves as having to compete with other women for a mate.

Hamidah Fawad

In Islam, acoording to the Quran and the teachings of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) women and men are both free to choose whom they want to marry. HOowever, thanks to cultural influences this right has been taken away from them in certain conservative societies.
Let me explain how this works. If a girls father in a conservative society fixes his daughters marriage with someone the girl doesnt want to marry, the girl has every right to refuse the proposal. If she is pushed into it forcefully, at the time of the marriage ceremony, she is asked 3 times whether she accepts the groom as her husband. If she doesnt, she has 3 chances to refuse and noone can stop her.
However, unfortunately, most Muslim countries and societies are patriarchal and the restrictions they impose are cultural and have nothing to do with religion. But religion always gets blamed.
Also, arranged marriage is not all that bad. I married for love (although I am Muslim and live in Pakistan) but I have many friends whose marriages were arranged. And they are very happy. Both arranged and love marriages have an equal chance of not working out. Both have their merits and demerits. I know it is difficult for a Westerner to understand how people can go into an arranged marriage but many do it and are happy inspite of it.
Also in a lot of cultures, the prospective bride and groom do get a chance to interact before they accept or reject the proposal. Once a proposal is accepted, they also have plenty of opporutnity to meet or chat and get to know each other better.
Again, it all depends on the culture you are part of and had nothing to do with the religion Islam. I hope I was able to clear up some things for you.

I have read many times that arranged Hindu marriages end up happy. It means the parents doing the arranging really did their homework in matching personalities and interests, and not doing it for the money interests.
…However there was just a forced marriage in Chechnya with a 17 yr old girl marrying a 57 yr old police chief (with other wives & kids). She was not allowed to say “no,” even once. We can’t post links on this page, but you can google Marriage of Luiza Goilabiyeva and Nazhud Guchigov. The photos of her are so sad, we can see she is devastated about her fate.
…Directives/laws/rules can always be on the books but it doesn’t mean they are enforced.

Hamidah Fawad

God where do u get ur info from. Child marriages are very common in India although now they are against the law. And have u ever heard of the word dowry. Its a menace in India and its origins lie in Hindu culture. And please note here – I m blaming Hindu culture not religion. Same is probably the case with the example u mentioned in your comment. Its a cultural issue, not a religious one. I think you need to do a comprehensive course in Culture vs. Religion.

trop68

Actually its not my Quran. Im a Catholic from Rep of Ireland. Im telling you what Iv observed with my own eyes living in an Islamic country. Your telling me what you belive based on Western hate filled proaganda. You quote these things that you have read on anti Islam websites and then spew them out as if they are the normal way Muslim live. I could do the same thing with the Bible or Thorah. There are plenty of horrible things in those books but they dont reflect how the aravage Christian or Jew lives. Same with the Quran and Muslims. My experiance as a Western Christian living in a Muslim country has been very positave. I have many Muslim friends here that have welcomed me with open arms. They are good people and it saddens me to hear all this evil hate talk comming from ignorant Westerners that have no idea what they are talking about. We Westerners have caused huge suffering to Muslims in the Mid East. We have murdered over 4 million of them since 1990. We even support Israel. And you think they are a threat to us? Ha, dont make me laugh. They have every right and reason to hate us but yet they dont. They treat us with respect. Says a lot dosent it? Its the Western world that is the most evil. Not the Muslim world.

Jeanine El Moghrabi

Thank you!

Rick Lopez Jr.

Their messiah is a child rapist. How stupid are you? Islam is evil as fuck and far worse than the Western World.

It’s going to be really hard to convince these deniers that Mo., at 53, married Aisha at 6, thighed ( مفاخذة , التفخيذ or Mfajz or Tafkhiz) her until 9 before he penetrated her. 9 is the accepted age for consummation of marriage. This has given permission to all muslim men to have sex even with infants and happens all over the world. It’s recently reported that Arabs have gone to Syria to buy infants captured by ISIS for this purpose (google). Muslims here won’t want to believe it, and this page won’t let me post the link, but google Sex with Infants by Ayatollah Khomeni, one of the “respected” Islamic scholars in his ‘Tahrir al Wasilah’,.(google)
…”A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a suckling baby. However, he should not penetrate vaginally, but sodomising the child is acceptable. If a man does penetrate and damage the child then, he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl will not count as one of his four permanent wives and the man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister. – It is better for a girl to marry at such a time when she would begin menstruation at her husband’s house, rather than her father’s home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven”
…”A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village, but selling the meat to a neighbouring village is reasonable”
[“Tahrirolvasyleh”, fourth edition, Qom, Iran, 1990]

Islam Al Amrikee

Do some research on your own country while you’re at it, and see how early girls married in the last century. This logic would make your founding fathers a bunch of rapists. But lie as much as you want about infant sex all over the world. You waste your time on people that have the slightest bit of sense.

That’s the last century, not now. Islam has been universal and perpetual violence, rape and enslavement since Mo. mandated his followers do it – and moslems continue to do it right now.

Loren James

Ann Inquirer: What is the purpose of your posts? You insult and criticize for what reason? You don’t want to live in peace. If you are a Christian you certainly are not following the example of Jesus. Don’t judge. Love one another. Do unto others…, etc. I have read malicious comments against Islam by the most ignorant of Christians again and again and it reflects badly on your beliefs. Unless one is a radical member of ISIS, Muslims are not posting such venom. Live and let live. You have a lot to learn from peaceful Muslims.

Where are people getting that idea I am a Christian? I never said I was – just because I know what’s in the bible doesn’t make me a follower anymore than knowing what is in the koran a follower either. Muslims mostly do not know the venom that is in their book, they certainly aren’t my words but Mo’s. These are NOT MY WORDS BUT MO’S. The verses are extrapolated AFTER the Doctrine of Abrogation – his canceling al lthe peace verses. GOOGLe a Koran and check it out for your self. This page does not let one leave links.
9:3 Do not associate with unbelievers;
give them painful punishment.
9:5 Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them,
besiege, sit-in-wait, ambush and capture them.
9:10 It is the unbelievers who are the wrong.
9:12 If the unbelievers defame or blasphemy us,
kill them.
9:23 Do not make friends with unbelievers.
9:28 Unbelievers are filth.
9:29 Fight unbelievers until they submit to Islam,
or make them in humiliation pay money.
9:30 The Christians say “Jesus is the son of Allah;”
They are deluded. May Allah destroy them.
9:33 Islam must triumph over all other religions
9:36 There is no sacred month where fighting
unbelievers is forbidden.
9:39 Moslems who do not fight unbelievers will be
punished and replaced.
9:41 Fight with your money or your life for Allah.
9:60 Your money/zagat will advance Islam.
9:111 Moslems will kill or be killed and rewarded
in Paradise.
9:123 Provoking unbelievers is a good deed to Allah.
Make war on your infidel neighbors

*Verse 2:106, the Doctrine of Abrogation (Cancellation) voided previous peaceful verses. 61% of this book deals with bad acts to do to unbelievers. Moslems are fundamentalists, not extremists (none of the above do true moslems believe extreme); they believe they are to follow ALL they are mandated to do. If “extremists” were commanded to be peaceful, then we would see moslems being extremely peaceful. But we don’t, in part due to the influential Chapter 9

Loren James

Ann Inquirer: Educate yourself. You don’t need to post links when you can cut and paste. Thought you knew everything.

“If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;” (Deuteronomy 13: 6)

“Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.” (Deuteronomy 13:15)

“If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her;” (Deuteronomy 22:22)

“Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour’s wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you.” (Deuteronomy 22:24)

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Hamidah Fawad

Well said Loren but its wasted on Ann Inquirer. The poor lady (she will now say what gave you the idea I am a female) is full of hate and anger and needs therapy. May God show her the light and fill her heart with compassion.

Loren James

I’m not convinced that she has a heart, Hamidah. But thank you for such a compassionate comment.

Jeanine El Moghrabi

You are crazy as shit lady. That’s not from our Quran, which you clearly have not read, because in the Quran it banned sexual acts with animals, it’s a fast sentence to hell you retard. Stop spreading lies, and for future reference, never take sources from Iran, they’re not muslim, they’re shia. They’re a sick twisted version of religion who think killing any other muslim gets them into heaven. They do not follow the quran and do not follow the prophet Mohammed, therefore, those retards are not muslim. Now stop spreading your crazy crap lady, you already showed just how uneducated you are when you asked me those questions. I mean, do you have ANY knowledge of anything beyond that under-developed, uneducated, state you live in? Go jump off a bridge.

That is YOUR hell, I don’t believe in it, so your words have no effect. And as far as I read it, both sunni and shia use the same book. I can tell you still have not read Mo.’s Doctrine of Abrogation – 2:106

Jeanine El Moghrabi

I assure you, I don’t care what hell we’re talking about, I’m just telling you that what you said is wrong in our religion, when you claimed it was halal. But you don’t have a response for that…so you said you don’t believe in my hell..? Your response makes no sense and is invalid in this discussion. Literally, THE stupidest response I have ever read.

Westernized Muslims are appalled at the thought of their religion allowing rape, so they insist that Islam prohibits this practice. Unfortunately, Islam isn’t defined by Westernized Muslims; it’s defined by Allah and Muhammad in the Koran and the Hadith.

Naadhi Lennon

Actually the passage she read from was in the Talmud- a very disgusting and racist book. It talks about having sex with goyem (gentile) babies boys or girls.

I know many muslims are appalled at the thought of their religion allowing rape, so they insist that Islam prohibits this practice. Unfortunately, Islam isn’t defined by Westernized Muslims; it’s defined by Allah and Muhammad in the Koran and the Hadith.

Oliver Black

Yes it is indeed, and most certainly not defined by you, you are no muslim scholar, you have no idea what muhammad and allah wanted.

I am quoting them from Islamic sites. !! ISIS states they are a threat to us, here in the US as well as abroad. So sorry you are blind.

AddisonDewitt

pure BS. MUSLIMS have been the cause of the sufferings of other Muslims in the Middle East. And you ignorant pro diversity Western Europeans will one day see your countries totally occupied by Muslims who want your lands for Allah, that is the goal. All nations under Allah and Shariah Law. Western Europeans let these Muslims migrate into their countries but they do not assimilate ….they have many many children and Western Europeans have stopped having children. Use a brain cell and do the math as to what is coming. If you think they want to live in peace and respect you , you are beyond ignorant.

Peace

by the way Allah is God there is no difference. Just different language

Very different – Mo. tried to piggyback onto to the God of Abraham when he just made up the whole connection. Jews & Christians in Mecca did not accept his fabrications to THEIR god.

Common sense

Why are western people , specifically Christians so obsessed with Islam? Like there’s so many stories how Christians killing innocent Muslims in the states and yet you people here have the nerve to portray Islam as some sort of violent religion. Mind you own business. Do something else with your life!

Oliver Black

My friends at school speak english, hang out with us, and some of them are muslim, just because you are a racist bigot in hillbilly land doesn’t mean all muslims live in gated communities, in fact, very few of them do.

Hamidah Fawad

Thank you from a Muslim who is sick of all these uninformed hillybilly bigots whose main source of info is Faux News and anti Islam websites

Chaapashay

Well said @trop68:disqus !!!!

Hamidah Fawad

Thank you for standing with us. It is a good feeling to know that people of other faiths and cultures understand what us ordinary Muslims are going through. It is really painful to see people mocking your religion, your Prophet, your entire way of life and spewing hate filled comments that have no basis in the actual truth. You are a kind person with a big heart and a an even smarter intellect unlike some bigoted blind idiots on this forum.

Jeanine

Oh for the love of God, please educate yourselves and stop bringing this ridiculous point up. Do not aruge when you have wrong knowledge, because you’re only making yourself look silly and uneducated. I’m muslim, in a muslim country, NOT wearing a hijab, and no one is running after me with stones, I assure you. In Islam you don’t get stoned for not wearing the hijab, women AND men get stoned ONLY if 5 people happened to witness fornication, FIVE. And there has to be evidence, innocent until proved guilty etc. So please stop your mindless, uneducated, and silly rants, you’re emabressing yourself with your lack knowledge, go read a book.

Rick Lopez Jr.

No, you’re committing a sin by misrepresenting your own religion and lying on a public forum (another sin) about your religion and child rapist messiah. I know women who are muslim and if they don’t wear their hijab the women talk shit about them and call them sluts and the men sometimes physically force them or harass them into wearing it. Most women wear it because they don’t want Allah to think they are a slut, but HIS FOLLOWERS are worse because they verbally or physically abuse them if they don’t wear their ‘cover’.

Naadhi Lennon

You have a distorted view of islam. I choose to wear my hijab! And you can’t trick God into thinking you’re not a slut. He already knows if you are or not! When I don’t feel like wearing my hijab i don’t. And i dare anyone to come at me about it!

simong02

Do you see the hijab as a symbol of oppression? If not, how do you see it? It seems clear enough the original intent of the hijab, but do you view Islam today as being “past” that?

Can’t trick God/Allah? You do know this is your imagination talking, right? But then Mo was “told by Allah” that he would be a false prophet if he had his aorta severed, and when Mo. was poisoned, that is what Mo. said he felt, his aorta being severed. So Mo. declared himself a false prophet. Koran 69: 44-46. Multiple stories of his death in the Hadith.

Lila Oumeraci

I am really sorry, but what you ae asaying is completely wrong, It s just MINORITY. The examples you gave are the exceptions, the few muslim people you know or certainely heard of, this part represents may be 0.01%. Wearing hidjab is a PERSONAL CHOICE, You shouldn t talk like this about something you don t really know. In a large sense, you consider that women are free ? So as the woman is free to wear whatever she wants to wear, she should be free to wear hidjab, that s all.

First we are talking about Islam not politics, about the countries only 2 or 3 coutries have a law to oblige women to have hidjab wich I say again is MINORITY. You obviously only know about this and certainely don t know much muslims women who are living their lives normally in muslim country or elswhere. You associate Islam with Saudi Arabia, Iran and Afghanistan, the coutries with higher number of muslims are Indonesia, Pakistan, Bengladesh, India. Just gving this as example i m not from Asia,

Dr. Jbm Ssentongo

I believe, that her being a proud practicing moslem who happens to have become a cop, must be a wake up call for her and her compatriots to follow the law and not her religious doctrines as a must or else, that very police department won’t spare her if people raise any unlawful concerns regarding her discharge of duties. Its in black and white that police departments around the Nation have fallen below the belt of public opinion. So whether its her or her colleagues, intergrity, honesty and service are crucial components to her success. Goodluck Mohamed

shabab

I love you great point

Critical Thinker

But she got her “facts” wrong. See corrections above.

GenoMN

Is that why you don’t show your face?

Critical Thinker

Is this comment satire? The fact that stoning is even considered for “fornication”, much less that it requires 5 witnesses!?? ought to raise an eyebrow or two, at least from my perspective. Just sayin.

Khalil Ali

“Correction” The stoning is in regards of ”Adultery” in Islam. But you can also find this information below in your Christian and or Jewish teachings..

a man and a woman married to a different man have sexual intercourse,
they are both liable to the death penalty by strangulation (Leviticus 20:10; Mishna Sanhedrin 11:1).

Leviticus 20:10

“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the
adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

Wayne Wilhelm

Leviticus is old testament of the Christian Bible. All of the laws of the old testament were replaced by the teachings of Christ, particularly with Christ’s statement, “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”

Loren James

Wayne Wilheim: When did Christians distance themselves from the Old Testament? Fundamentalist Baptists certainly didn’t last time I checked! You are cherry-picking the Bible yet you damn the Quran about which you know nothing.. If the Bible is the inspired word of God, it ALL counts.

About 2K years ago. And it looks like the Christians themselves cherry picked the bible because they don’t allow killing for adultery or slavery any more because evolving is the moral thing to do.

Oliver Black

Exactly, they modify their holy book to suit modern day moral values, like most mainstream muslims do.

Loren James

Ann Inquirer: It wasn’t 2000 years ago when I, as a child, was sitting in Sunday School and the Old Testament was part of the program. You argue that ‘Christians’ beliefs have evolved and yet you cannot understand that the modern day educated Muslim’s have as well.

Wayne Wilhelm

Christians view Jesus as a prophet who is the direct Son of God. All of the teachings of the prophet Jesus replaced the beliefs of the Old Testament. While the Old Testament may have supported war and killing, the New Testament does not. The New Testament clearly states that only God can judge. The New Testament tells Christians to turn the other cheek if attacked.

It is my understanding even Islam recognizes Jesus as a prophet. As to how much followers of Islam know of the teachings of Jesus versus the teachings of Muhammad, I don’t know. If there are any other prophets than Muhammad whom Muslims follow, I would be interested in finding out more.

In more ancient times, societies followed multiple Gods. As the people’s awareness of the world around them expanded, they began to view the world as having one God (and for some, no God.) As to different religions that still exist, how do we know which religion is the correct one; or are they all the same? As should be obvious from the context of many of the posts at the end of the article these posts are in response to, many people can’t even agree on what other religions are comprised.

I maintain we can tell if a religion is valid by its teachings and writings. A God is defined as omnipotent, mature, all-caring individual who created the world. I maintain if this is the case, that we can identify false religions by their teachings. False religions will define themselves in terms of human weaknesses.

Human weaknesses include such things as jealousy, hate, anger, and greed. An omnipotent being such as a God is incapable of these emotions. Such emotions only occur in inferior beings (humans.) They are emotions of weakness, of having to strive for one’s needs.

However, when reading what past writings contain, we also need to be aware that such writings were written by humans with human weaknesses in terms humans (of the time / age) comprehend. Even if such writings were by humans but at the direction of a God, God would have directed those writings be written in a manner which people of the time could comprehend, not a manner in which people of the future would comprehend. We also need to be wary of false writings (false prophets.)

Perhaps what surprises me more than anything is the belief that any God would only have prophets in ancient times, not modern ones. While we are warned that false prophets might arise, I maintain there isn’t any reason for new prophets to come forth with teachings (philosophies) paralleling modern society, not a society a thousand years distant. The only religion I know of which claims it follows the teachings of a more modern prophet is that of the Mormon church.

Wayne Wilhelm

Christians view Jesus as a prophet who is the direct Son of God. All of the teachings of the prophet Jesus replaced the beliefs of the Old Testament. While the Old Testament may have supported war and killing, the New Testament does not. The New Testament clearly states that only God can judge. The New Testament tells Christians to turn the other cheek if attacked.

It is my understanding even Islam recognizes Jesus as a prophet. As to how much followers of Islam know of the teachings of Jesus versus the teachings of Muhammad, I don’t know. If there are any other prophets than Muhammad whom Muslims follow, I would be interested in finding out more.

In more ancient times, societies followed multiple Gods. As the people’s awareness of the world around them expanded, they began to view the world as having one God (and for some, no God.) As to different religions that still exist, how do we know which religion is the correct one; or are they all the same? As should be obvious from the context of many of the posts at the end of the article these posts are in response to, many people can’t even agree on what other religions are comprised.

I maintain we can tell if a religion is valid by its teachings and writings. A God is defined as omnipotent, mature, all-caring individual who created the world. I maintain if this is the case, that we can identify false religions by their teachings. False religions will define themselves in terms of human weaknesses.

Human weaknesses include such things as jealousy, hate, anger, and greed. An omnipotent being such as a God is incapable of these emotions. Such emotions only occur in inferior beings (humans.) They are emotions of weakness, of having to strive for one’s needs.

However, when reading what past writings contain, we also need to be aware that such writings were written by humans with human weaknesses in terms humans (of the time / age) comprehend. Even if such writings were by humans but at the direction of a God, God would have directed those writings be written in a manner which people of the time could comprehend, not a manner in which people of the future would comprehend. We also need to be wary of false writings (false prophets.)

Perhaps what surprises me more than anything is the belief that any God would only have prophets in ancient times, not modern ones. While we are warned that false prophets might arise, I maintain there isn’t any reason for new prophets to come forth with teachings (philosophies) paralleling modern society, not a society a thousand years distant. The only religion I know of which claims it follows the teachings of a more modern prophet is that of the Mormon church.

Oliver Black

The mormon church doesn’t follow the teachings of a modern prophet, he just read some gold tablets in a field left their when Jesus went over to chat with the native americans.

Loren James

Once again, I am asking why the Old Testament was taught to me as a child in Sunday School in a fundamentalist Baptist church. It was never relegated to the dust bin. God know we were forced to memorize lots of OT verses. This whole idea that the New Testament replaced the Old is definitely news to any fundamentalist that I have encountered. If Christianity has suddenly distanced itself from the old teachings then why can it not be accepted that modern Muslims can do the same.

Critical Thinker

Understood that it’s “adultery” rather than fornication in Islam that is punishable by stoning. And it’s true, similar commandments are found in the Old Testament. There is one difference though… Jesus Christ, who made the ultimate sacrifice so that all human beings would no longer need to follow the old law. This is the New Testament. Thus, the chasm between Western and Islamic philosophy. Moreover, no Western nation whose citizens embrace Judeo-Christian or secular views and who advocate freedom ever employ inhumane, barbarous means of capital punishment, for example stoning or decapitation, but instead lethal injection. And, even then it is only reserved for the worst, violent offenders whose punishment is deemed to fit the crime via jury trial. Never for adulterers, thieves, or blasphemers.

That is old testament and no country in the world puts people to death by strangulation for adultery. Those countries joined the human race with a modicum of compassion. But Islamic countries do put people to death for it. Today. Stay in the here and now, not the past.

Wayne Wilhelm

If a woman charges a man with rape, it is admission on her part that she had illegitimate sex which is chargeable with being stoned to death. The only way she can avoid being stoned to death is if she has 5 witnesses who state it was rape. Whether that is practiced in Muslim communities in the United States, I don’t know.

Critical Thinker

Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification, and kinda pitiful that the woman above who seemed to think she was setting us all straight was so wrong.

It is practiced in moslem countries, especially the 57 with sharia. Not in the US yet, but Honor Killings are very much done in the US, and some because of “fornication.”

Lila Oumeraci

Really 57 coutries applying stoning to death ?!!! Pleaaase confirm your informations. I don t usually pay attention to comments, now that I did i m reaally surprised with so much ignorence and now understand why so much hate for islam from some people. Anyway, if you are a person who cares about the truth please try to find the right informations beofre giving such statements.

Lila Oumeraci

Really 57 coutries applying stoning to death ?!!! Pleaaase confirm your informations. I don t usually pay attention to comments, now that I did i m reaally surprised with so much ignorence and now understand why so much hate for islam from some people. Anyway, if you are a person who cares about the truth please try to find the right informations beofre giving such statements.

Lila Oumeraci

Really ?!! Charged with rape and stoned to death, what are your sources please ? Stoned to death is for adultery and concerns only someone whi is married not a single, and that 4 people witnessing the act do that was more for the public part not only do adultery but let people witness the act of sex itself. and this is certainely not applicable for the woman in case of rape. And this is still applicable in only 2 or 3 coutries in the world. I am really surprised with what I am reading. Usually if I don t have enough knoweledge about a subject I dont talk about it, clearely not evryone does that

Stoning is very much done today in the moslem world for a woman’s rape. Google 13 year old stoned for rape. That one is fairly recent, this year.

Oliver Black

Stoning is done, but they are a small minority of muslims.

Rick Lopez Jr.

Thanks you for answering so intelligently.

Tolkunai Hood

Rape got nothing to do with Islam, trying to tell us like christian women never got raped? Meanwhile, in Dubai women covered up by exculisive Gucci hijab, and got diamonds and gold under their “rag”.
Oh yeah, last time I heard it was a confession of a plenty of boys raped by your church people.But yeah. You can blaim Islam

Christian women are getting raped by the thousands by ISIS and sold into slavery in the name of mohammad and that is right now, not some other group in the past. Can’t get around that fact, especially in Mosul and now Ramadi.
Qur’an (8:69) – “But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good” A reference to war booty, of which slaves were a part. The Muslim slave master may enjoy his “catch” because (according to verse 71) “Allah gave you mastery over them.”
r’an (24:32) – “And marry those among you who are single and those who are fit among your male slaves and your female slaves…” Breeding slaves based on fitness.

Tolkunai Hood

when?where?stop making stories! Christian men don’t rape women?
Since you wanna take these words of Quran out of context, may be you should read it at least with interpretations?

I have given some citings of the Hadith and Bukari. I have told you to google for yourself, but you will you not do that; or is it you just want to say I have taken out of context when you haven’t investigated it yourself?

Tolkunai Hood

Well, never mind, I saw your page, you’re one if these “Islam haters”. I’m done with you.

I do this out of giving out truth as to what is in the koran and as you have read most moslems don’t know what is in it. But Truth is Hate to those who hate the truth. I am appalled at the heinous acts mandated by Mo. That does not mean I hate moslems. If I believed in a false prophet, then I would want someone to tell me and why.

Tatiana Green

You never answered her question about Catholic priests, they’re known to rape little boys. What do you have to say about that?

Rape is wrong on any human of any age. Catholics are not the issue, Islam and what it allows and not allows are the issues.

Oliver Black

Muslim woman got raped by the thousands by US troops.

Jeane Thompson

Do these other clothing articles, (turban, yarmulkes, etc.) cover the ears of the wearer, thus impeding that person’s hearing? Do they cover so large an area that they could also impede that person’s vision. If so, than police officers, who have to have acute senses and make split second decisions, should not be wearing them.

Oliver Black

Pretty sure a thin layer of cloth doesn’t impede hearing, nor does it cover her eyes in anyway…

Rick Lopez Jr.

She’s already deaf and blind as she’s submissive to abusive males of her religion and her child raping messiah and misogynistic god.

That’s the first stage of jihad – fit in, but it’s a lie and will come back to bite you when there are enough of them. This is the moslem playbook used for 1400 years. Google the Three Stages of Jihad. I can’t post links or graphics on this page

Veandercross

Oh yes, watch it guys – the three stages of jihad! LOL, this woman is on crack.

Here are 4 (the 4th is when the world is conquered). I am not making this stuff up. Islam is. Though I have doubts as to if you really want to know. It sound more like you want to denigrate that learn about Islam.

4 Stages of Islamic Conquest

STAGE 1: INFILTRATION

Muslims begin moving to non-Muslim countries in increasing numbers and the beginning of cultural conflicts are visible, though often subtle.

First migration wave to non-Muslim “host” country.

Appeal for humanitarian tolerance from the host society.

Attempts to portray Islam as a peaceful & Muslims as victims of misunderstanding and racism (even though Islam is not a ‘race’).

High Muslim birth rate in host country increase Muslim population.

Mosques used to spread Islam and dislike of host country & culture.

Calls to criminalize “Islamophobia” as a hate crime.

Threatened legal action for perceived discrimination.

Offers of “interfaith dialogue” to indoctrinate non-Muslims.

How many nations are suffering from Islamic infiltration? One? A handful? Nearly every nation? The Islamic ‘leadership” of the Muslim Brotherhood and others wish to dissolve each nation’s sovereignty and replace it with the global imposition of Islamic sharia law. Sharia law, based on the koran, sira and hadith, condemns liberty and forbids equality and is inconsistent with the laws of all Western nations. As the author and historian Serge Trifkovic states:

“The refusal of the Western elite class to protect their nations from jihadist infiltration is the biggest betrayal in history.”

STAGE 2: CONSOLIDATION OF POWER

Muslim immigrants and host country converts continue demands for accommodation in employment, education, social services, financing and courts.

Efforts to undermine and destroy power base of non-Muslim religions including and especially Jews and Christians.

Is there a pattern here? Theo van Gogh is murdered in the Netherlands for ‘insulting’ Islam; the Organization of the Islamic Conference demands ‘anti-blasphemy’ laws through the United Nations; France is set afire regularly by ‘youths’ (read Muslims); the rise of (dis-) honor killings…holocaust denial…anti-Semitism…deception re the tenets of Islam; hatred toward Christians and Jews and Hindus and Buddhists. The pattern for all to see is the rise of Islamic intolerance and the covert/cultural jihad to remake host societies into sharia-compliant worlds – to remove host sovereignty and replace it with Islamic sharia law. Sharia law that condemns earthly liberty and individual freedom, that forbids equality among faiths and between the sexes, that rejects the concept of nations outside the global house of Islam, that of dar al-Islam.

STAGE 3: OPEN WAR w/ LEADERSHIP & CULTURE

Open violence to impose Sharia law and associated cultural restrictions; rejection of host government, subjugation of other religions and customs.

Intentional efforts to undermine the host government & culture.

Acts of barbarity to intimidate citizens and foster fear and submission.

Open and covert efforts to cause economic collapse of the society.

All opposition is challenged and either eradicated or silenced.

Mass execution of non-Muslims.

Widespread ethnic cleansing by Islamic militias.

Rejection and defiance of host society secular laws or culture.

Murder of “moderate” Muslim intellectuals who don’t support Islamization.

Destruction of churches, synagogues and other non-Muslim institutions.

Women are restricted further in accordance with Sharia law.

Large-scale destruction of population, assassinations, bombings.

Toppling of government and usurpation of political power.

Imposition of Sharia law

The website http://www.thereligionofpeace dot com keeps track of the number of violent jihad attacks as best it can. The site lists more than 14,000 attacks since September 2001. It is worth a visit. What is occurring, however, that is likely inestimable are events where muslims are bullied by other muslims for not being “muslim enough,” where non-Muslims are intimidated into doing or not doing what they desire, where remnant populations are in a death spiral simply for being non-muslim in a predominantly muslim area. Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists Animists and Atheists meet with death, property destruction or confiscation, forced conversion, rape, excessive taxation (the jizya), enslavement, riotous mobs and various other forms of islam (in-) justice at the hands of muslims in Sudan, Philippines, Kenya, Malaysia, India, etc. And let us not forget ‘death to Apostates’ the world over.

STAGE 4: Totalitarian ISLAMIC “THEOCRACY”

Islam becomes the only religious-political-judicial-cultural ideology.

Sharia becomes the “law of the land.

All non-Islamic human rights cancelled.

Enslavement and genocide of non-Muslim population.

Freedom of speech and the press eradicated.

All religions other than Islam are forbidden and destroyed. (9:33)

Destruction of all evidence of non-Muslim culture, populations and symbols in country (Buddhas, houses of worship, art, etc).

The House of Islam (“peace”), dar al-Islam, includes those nations that have submitted to Islamic rule, to the soul crushing, liberty-condemning, discriminatory law of Sharia. The rest of the world in in the House of War, dar al-harb, because it does not submit to Sharia, and exists in a state of rebellion or war with the will of ‘Allah.’ No non-Muslim state or its citizens are “innocent,” and remain viable targets of war for not believing in ‘Allah.’ The Christian, Jewish, Coptic, Hindu and Zoroastrian peoples of world have suffered under subjugation for centuries. The Dhimmi-esque are forbidden to construct houses of worship or repair existing ones, economically crippled by the heavy jizya (tax), socially humiliated, legally discriminated against, criminally targeted and generally kept in a permanent state of weakness, fear and vulnerability by Islamic governments.

It should be noted that forced conversions (Egypt) and slavery (Sudan) are still reported. Homosexuals have been hung in the public square in Iran. Young girls are married to old men. Apostates are threatened with death. “Honor” killings are routine. Women are legally second-class citizens, though Muslim males insist they are “treated better” than in the West. These more obvious manifestations may distract from some less obvious ones such as the lack of intellectual inquiry in science, narrow scope of writing, all but non-existent art and music, sexual use and abuse of youth and women, and the disregard for personal fulfillment, joy and wonder. Look into the eyes of a recently married 12 year old girl to see the consequence of the moral deprivation spawned by Islam.

The 4 Stages of Islamic Conquest is also available in pdf format for easy sharing as part of “Liberty vs Sharia”

[200 to 300 years after the death of Muhammad, several men devoted their lives to collecting verifiable (“sahih”) traditions (“hadith”) concerning the teachings and actions of Muhammad as witnessed by his followers and passed on through other reliable believers. Among the six most respected hadith collections, Muhammad bin Ismail bin Al-Mughirah Al-Bukhari’s nine volume collection is the most respected of all. Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan, who translated Imam Bukhari’s work into English, wrote, “It has been unanimously agreed that Imam Bukhari’s work is the most authentic of all the other works in Hadith literature put together. The authenticity of Al-Bukhari’s work is such that the religious learned scholars of Islam said concerning him: ‘The most authentic book after the Book of Allah (i.e. Al-Qur’an) is Sahih-Al-Bukhari.’” In his careful investigation Imam Bukhari accepted as authentic only 7275 out of the 300,000 hadith which he heard. Among these traditions, are many regarding Muhammad’s teaching and practices concerning Jihad. (Volume four alone contains 283 of them.) I have selected the following 50 traditions from Imam Bukhari’s collection which I feel capture the essence of Jihad in Islam:]

Comments from Al-Bukhari are: [Bukhari: “in square brackets and smaller type”]. These may actually be the comments of the translator, but they appear to be those of Imam Bukhari.

[Any comments I have added are also in square brackets and smaller type]

From Volume 1:

1:35 Muhammad said, “The person who participates in (holy battles) in Allah’s cause and nothing compels him to do so except belief in Allah and His Apostles, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty (if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise (if he is killed in the battle as a martyr). Had I not found it difficult for my followers, then I would not remain behind any sariya [army unit] going for Jihad and I would have loved to be martyred in Allah’s cause and then made alive, and then martyred and then made alive and then again martyred in His cause.”

From Volume 4:

4:41 Abdullah bin Masud said, “I asked Allah’s Apostle, ‘O Allah’s Apostle! What is the best deed?’ He replied, ‘To offer the prayers at their early stated fixed times.’ I asked, ‘What is next in goodness?’ He replied, ‘To be good and dutiful to your parents.’ I further asked, ‘What is next in goodness?’ He replied, ‘To participate in Jihad in Allah’s cause.’”

4:42 (& 4:311) Muhammad said, “There is no Hijra (i.e. migration from Mecca to Medina) after the conquest (of Mecca), but Jihad and good intention [to fight in Jihad] remain; and if you are called (by the Muslim ruler) for fighting, go forth immediately.” [In other words, Muslims can not now join Muhammad in 610 A.D. in sacrificing and leaving their homes in Mecca in order to migrate to Medina, but they can show their dedication to God by sacrificing all they have in Jihad, or at least intend to if given the opportunity.]

4:44 A man came to Muhammad and said, “Instruct me as to such a deed as equals Jihad (in reward).” He replied, “I do not find such a deed.” Then he added, “Can you, while the Muslim fighter is in the battle-field, enter your mosque to perform prayers without cease and fast and never break your fast?” The man said, “But who can do that?” [Bukhari: “Of course, nobody can pray and fast incessantly, and since the Muslim fighter is rewarded as if he was doing such good impossible deeds, no possible deed equals Jihad in reward.”]

4:45 Someone asked, “O Allah’s Apostle! Who is the best among the people?” Allah’s Apostle replied, “A believer who strives his utmost in Allah’s cause with his life and property.” They asked, “Who is next?” He replied, “A believer who stays in one of the mountain paths worshiping Allah and leaving the people secure from his mischief.” [In other words, fighting in Jihad is better than being a devout monk.]

4:46 Muhammad said, “… Allah guarantees the He will admit the Mujahid [one who fights in Jihad] in His cause into Paradise if he is killed, otherwise He will return him to his home safely with rewards and war booty.” [Imagine how Muslims must try to interpret Allah’s guarantee when they are defeated in Jihad, and neither die as martyrs nor are rewarded as victors.]

4:49 Muhammad said, “Last night two men came to me (in a dream) and made me ascend a tree and then admitted me into a better and superior house, better of which I have never seen. One of them said, ‘This house is the house of martyrs.’”

4:50 Muhammad said, “A single endeavour (of fighting) in Allah’s cause in the forenoon or in the afternoon is better than the world and whatever is in it.”

4:53 Muhammad said, “Nobody who dies and finds good from Allah (in the hereafter) would wish to come back to this world even if he were given the whole world and whatever is in it, except the martyr who, on seeing the superiority of martyrdom, would like to come back to the world and get killed again (in Allah’s cause).”

4:72 Mohammad said, “Nobody who enters Paradise likes to go back to the world even if he got everything on the earth, except a Mujahid [one who fights in Jihad] who wishes to return to the world so that he may be martyred ten times because of the dignity he receives (from Allah).”

4:216 Muhammad said, “Were it not for the fear that it would be difficult for my followers, I would not have remained behind any Sariya (army unit) but I don’t have riding camels and have no other means of conveyance to carry them on, and it is hard for me that my companions should remain behind me. No doubt I wish I could fight in Allah’s cause and be martyred and come to life again to be martyred and come to life once more.”

4:65 A man came to the Prophet and asked, “A man fights for war booty; another fights for fame and a third fights for showing off. Which of them fights in Allah’s cause?” The prophet said, “He who fights that Allah’s Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah’s cause.”

4:66 Muhammad said, “Anyone whose both feet get covered with dust in Allah’s cause will not be touched by the (hell) fire.”

4:72b Al-Mughira bin Shu’ba said, “Our Prophet told us about the message of our Lord that “… whoever amongst us is killed will go to Paradise.” Umar asked the Prophet, “Is it not true that our men who are killed will go to Paradise and their’s (i.e. those of the pagan’s) will go to the (hell) fire?” The Prophet said, “Yes.”

4:73 Muhammad said, “Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords.”

4:210 Once Allah’s Apostle (during a holy battle), waited till the sun had declined and then he got up among the people and said, “O people! Do not wish to face the enemy (in a battle) and ask Allah to save you (from calamities) but if you should face the enemy, then be patient and let it be known to you that Paradise is under the shades of swords.” He then said, “O Allah! The Revealer of the (holy) Book, the Mover of the clouds, and Defeater of Al-Ahzab (i.e. the clans of infidels), defeat the infidels and bestow victory upon us.”

4:80 Muhammad said, “Allah welcomes two men with a smile. One of whom kills the other and both of them enter Paradise. One fights in Allah’s cause and gets killed. Later on Allah forgives the killer (i.e. he embraces Islam) who also get martyred (in Allah’s cause).”

4:96 Muhammad said, “He who prepares a ghazi [a warrior returning from participating in Jihad] going in Allah’s cause is (given a reward equal to that of) a ghazi; and he who looks after properly the dependents of a ghazi going in Allah’s cause is (given a reward equal to that of) a ghazi.”

4:127 Aisha (one of Muhammad’s wives) said, “I requested the Prophet to permit me to participate in Jihad, but he said, ‘Your Jihad is the performance of Hajj [the annual pilgrimage to Mecca].’”

4:131 Anas said, “On the day (of the battle) of Uhud when (some) people retreated and left the Prophet I saw Aisha bint Abi Bakr and um Sulaim [two women], with their robes tucked up so that the bangles around their ankles were visible hurrying with their water skins. Then they would pour the water in the mouths of the people, and return to fill the water skins again and came back again to pour water in the mouths of the people.”

4:137 Muhammad said, “… Paradise is for him who holds the reins of his horse to strive in Allah’s cause, with his hair unkempt and feet covered with dust. If he is appointed in the vanguard, he is perfectly satisfied with his post of guarding, and if he is appointed in the rearguard, he accepts his post with satisfaction …”

4:146 Muhammad said, “A time will come when groups of people will go for Jihad and it will be asked, ‘Is there anyone amongst you who has enjoyed the company of the Prophet?’ The answer will be ‘Yes.’ Then they will be given victory (by Allah). Then a time will come when it will be asked, ‘Is there anyone amongst you who has enjoyed the company of the companions of the Prophet?’ It will be said, ‘Yes,’ and they will be given the victory (by Allah). Then a time will come when it will be said, ‘Is there anyone amongst you who has enjoyed the company of the companions of the companions of the Prophet?’ It will be said, ‘Yes,’ and they will be given victory (by Allah).”

4:147 Sahl bin Sa’d As-Sa’idi said, “Allah’s Apostle and the pagans faced each other and started fighting. When Allah’s Apostle returned to his camp and when the pagans returned to their camp, somebody talked about a man amongst the companions of Allah’s Apostle who would follow and kill with his sword any pagan going alone. He said, ‘Nobody did his job (i.e. fighting) so properly today as that man.’ Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Indeed, he is amongst the people of the (hell) fire.’ A man amongst the people said, ‘I shall accompany him (to watch what he does).’ Thus he accompanied him, and wherever he stood, he would stand with him, and wherever he ran, he would run with him. Then the (brave) man got wounded seriously and he decided to bring about his death quickly. He planted the blade of the sword in the ground directing its sharp end towards his chest between his two breasts. Then he leaned on the sword and killed himself. The other man came to Allah’s Apostle and said, ‘I testify that you are Allah’s Apostle.’ The Prophet asked, ‘What has happened?’ He replied, ‘(It is about) the man whom you had described as one of the people of the (hell) fire. The people were greatly surprised at what you said, and I said, “I will find out his reality for you.” So, I came out seeking him. He got severely wounded, and hastened to die by planting the blade of his sword in the ground directing its sharp end towards his chest between his two breasts. Then he leaned on his sword and killed himself.’ Then Allah’s Apostle said, ‘A man may seem to the people as if he were practicing the deeds of the people of Paradise while in fact he is from the people of the (hell) fire, another may seem to the people as if he were practicing the deeds of the people of hell (fire), while in fact he is from the people of Paradise.’” [This would seem to clearly condemn suicide, but it is not really the same as the suicide bombers who kill many enemies and die in the process. They are not condemned by the more radical Muslims, who would consider them true Martyrs going to Paradise.]

4:162b Muhammad said, “My livelihood is under the shade of my spear, and he who disobeys my orders will be humiliated by paying Jizya.” [“Jizya” is the poll tax paid by subjugated peoples in return for the protection of the Islamic government.]

4:175 Umair said, “Um Haram informed us that she heard the Prophet saying, ‘Paradise is granted to the first batch of my followers who will undertake a naval expedition.’ Um Haram added, ‘I said, O Allah’s Apostle! Will I be amongst them?’ He replied, ‘You are amongst them.’ The Prophet then said, ‘The first army amongst my followers who will invade Caesar’s city will be forgiven their sins.’ I asked, ‘Will I be one of them, O Allah’s Apostle?’ He replied in the negative.” [Notice it is an invasion, not a defensive war.]

4:179 Muhammad said, “The hour will not be established until you fight with the Turks; people with small eyes, red faces, and flat noses. Their faces will look like shields coated with leather. The hour will not be established till you fight with people whose shoes are made of hair.” [No wonder the Arabs and Turks don’t seem to like each other!]

4:182 Ali said, “When it was the day of the battle of Al-Ahzab (i.e. the clans), Allah’s Apostle said, ‘O Allah! Fill their (i.e. the infidels’) houses and graves with fire as they busied us so much that we did not perform the prayer (i.e. ‘Asr) till the sun had set.’” [‘Asr is the 3rd prayer, which is to be done in middle of the afternoon. The 4th prayer is to be done just before sunset.]

4:186 Aisha said, “Once the Jews came to the Prophet and said, ‘Death be upon you.’ So I cursed them. The Prophet said, ‘What is the matter?’ I said, ‘Have you not heard what they said?’ The Prophet said, ‘Have you not heard what I replied (to them)? (I said), (“The same is upon you.”)’” [Bukhari: “There is great similarity between the pronunciations of the Arabic words meaning ‘peace’ and ‘death.’ The first is ‘as-salamu’ and the second is ‘as-samu.’ The Jews instead of saying ‘As-salamu Alai-kum’ (‘peace be on you.’) said, ‘As-samu Alai-kum,’ intending to invoke evil upon the Prophet rather than to greet him. But the Prophet noticed what they had said and invoked evil upon them in his turn. They were the losers, for Allah would accept the Prophet’s invocation and reject theirs.”] [Quite a contrast with Jesus, who taught “Bless them who curse you.” (Luke 6:28)!]

4:192 On the day of the battle of Khaibar, Sahl bin Sa’d heard Muhammad say, “I will give the flag to a person at whose hands Allah will grant victory.” So, the companions of the Prophet got up, wishing eagerly to see to whom the flag will be given, and everyone of them wished to be given the flag. But the Prophet asked for Ali. Someone informed him that he was suffering from eye-trouble. So, he ordered them to bring Ali in front of him. Then the Prophet spat in his eyes and his eyes were cured immediately as if he had never any eye-trouble. Ali said, “We will fight with them (i.e. infidels) till they become like us (i.e. Muslims).” The Prophet said, “Be patient, till you face them and invite them to Islam and inform them of what Allah has enjoined upon them. By Allah! If a single person embraces Islam at your hands (i.e. through you), that will be better for you than the red camels.”

4:193 Anas said, “Whenever Allah’s Apostle attacked some people, he would never attack them till it was dawn. If he heard the adhan (i.e. call for prayer) he would delay the fight, and if he did not hear the adhan, he would attack them immediately after dawn.” [Bukhari: “The Prophet would wait till dawn to see whether the people he was attacking had been converted to Islam or not, and the sign of their embracing Islam will be the pronunciation of the adhan. He would not attack them if he heard the adhan.] [The message seems clear – convert or be attacked!]

4:195 Anas said, “The Prophet set out for Khaibar [a Jewish village attacked and subjugated in 628] and reached it at night. He used not to attack if he reached the people at night, till the day broke. So, when the day dawned, the Jews came out with their bags and spades. [see Deuteronomy 23:12,13] When they saw the Prophet they said, ‘Muhammad and his army!’ The Prophet said, ‘Allahu-Akbar! (Allah is Greater) and Khaibar is ruined, for whenever we approach a nation (i.e. enemy to fight) then it will be a miserable morning for those who have been warned.’”

4:196 Mohammad said, “I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, ‘None has the right to be worshiped but Allah,’ and whoever says, ‘None has the right to be worshiped by Allah,’ his life and property will be saved by me except for Islamic law, and his accounts will be with Allah (either to punish him or to forgive him.)” [Clear enough! He was “ordered” to fight with the people until they become Muslims!]

4:198 Ka’b bin Malik said, “Whenever Allah’s Apostle intended to carry out a Ghazwa, [a Jihad excursion with Mohammad leading.] he would use an equivocation to conceal his real destination till it was the Ghazwa of Tabuk [a valley in Arabia where the Muslims confronted Christians in 630] which Allah’s Apostle carried out in very hot weather. As he was going to face a very long journey through a wasteland and was to meet and attack a large number of enemies. So, he made the situation clear to the Muslims so that they might prepare themselves accordingly and get ready to conquer their enemy.”

4:220 Muhammad said, “… I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy) …”

4:248 Abdullah bin Amr said, “A man came to the Prophet asking his permission to take part in Jihad. The Prophet asked him, ‘Are your parents alive?’ He replied in the affirmative. The Prophet said to him, ‘Then exert yourself in their service.’” [Bukhari: “The participation in Jihad (i.e. holy battles) with one’s parents’ permission.”]

4:256 As-Sa’b bin Jaththama said, “The Prophet … was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, ‘They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans).’”

4:258 Ibn Umar said, “During some of the Ghazawat [Jihad wars] of Allah’s Apostle a woman was found killed, so Allah’s Apostle forbade the killing of women and children.”

4:259 Abu Huraira said, “Allah’s Apostle sent us in a mission (i.e. an army-unit) and said, ‘If you find so-and-so and so-and-so, burn both of them with fire.’ When we intended to depart, Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have ordered you to burn so-and-so and so-and-so, and it is none but Allah Who punishes with fire, so, if you find them, kill them.’” [Maybe not with fire, but Muhammad’s order to kill these two enemies in some other way is clearly an act of aggression.]

4:260 Ikrima said, “Ali burnt some people [apparently Muslims who had left Islam] and this news reached Ibn Abbas, who said, ‘Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, “Don’t punish (anybody) with Allah’s punishment.” No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, “If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.”’” [The Islamic law of apostasy mandates death to anyone who leaves Islam.]

4:261 Anas bin Malik said, “A group of eight men from the tribe of Ukil came to the Prophet [i.e. they became Muslims and began to live in Medina with the Muslims] and then they found the climate of Medina unsuitable for them. So, they said, ‘O Allah’s Apostle! Provide us with some milk.’ Allah’s apostle said, ‘I recommend that you should join the herd of camels.’ So they went and drank the urine and the milk of the camels (as a medicine) till they became healthy and fat. Then they killed the shepherd and drove away the camels, and they became unbelievers after they were Muslims. When the Prophet was informed by a shouter for help, he sent some men in their pursuit, and before the sun rose high, they were brought and he had their hands and feet cut off. Then he ordered for nails which were heated and passed over their eyes, and they were left in the Harra (i.e. rocky land in Medina). They asked for water, and nobody provided them with water till they died.” [This obvious torture does not compare favorably with Yusuf Ali’s note in Sura 5:36-38.]

4:264 Al-Bara bin Azib said, “Allah’s Apostle sent a group of Ansari men to kill Abu-Rafi’. One of them set out and entered their (i.e. the enemies’) fort. That man said, ‘I hid myself … and came upon Abu Rafi’ and said, “O Abu Rafi’.” When he replied me, I proceeded towards the voice and hit him. He shouted and I came out to come back, pretending to be a helper. I said, “O Abu Rafi’,” changing the tone of my voice … I asked him, “What happened to you?” He said, “I don’t know who came to me and hit me.” Then I drove my sword into his belly and pushed it forcibly till it touched the bone. Then I came out, filled with puzzlement and went towards a ladder of theirs in order to get down but I fell down and sprained my foot. I came to my companions and said, “I will not leave till I hear the wailing of the women.” So, I did not leave till I heard the women bewailing Abu Rafi’, the mercant of Hijaz. Then I got up, feeling no ailment, (and we proceeded) till we came upon the Prophet and informed him.’” [This treacherous murder followed by pleasure in the women’s wailing seems to be rewarded both by Allah’s miraculous healing and by Muhammad’s approval.]

4:267,269 Muhammad said, “War is deceit.”

4:270 Jabir bin Abdullah said, “The Prophet said, ‘Who is ready to kill Ka’b bin Al-Ashraf who has really hurt Allah and His Apostle?’ Muhammad bin Maslama said, ‘O Allah’s Apostle! Do you like me to kill him?’ He replied in the affirmative. So, Muhammad bin Maslama went to him (i.e. Ka’b) and said, ‘This person (i.e. the Prophet) has put us to task and asked us for charity.’ Ka’b replied, ‘By Allah, you will get tired of him.’ Muhammad said to him, ‘We have followed him, so we dislike to leave him till we see the end of his affair.’ Muhammad bin Maslama went on talking to him in this way till he got the chance to kill him.” [This certainly clarifies the meaning of “War is deceit.”]

4:280b Anas bin Malik said, “Allah’s Apostle entered (Mecca) in the year of the conquest (of Mecca) wearing a helmet over his head. After he took it off, a man came and said, ‘Ibn Khatal [a pagan opponent] is clinging to the curtains of the Ka’ba.’ The Prophet said, ‘Kill him.’”

4:286 Salarma bin Al-Akwa said, “An infidel spy came to the Prophet while he was on a journey. The spy sat with the companions of the Prophet and started talking and then went away. The Prophet said, (to his companions), ‘Chase and kill him.’ So, I killed him.”

4:288 Ibn Abbas said, “… The Prophet on his death-bed, gave three orders saying, ‘Expel the pagans from the Arabian Peninsula, …’” [The Muslims not only expelled the pagan Arabs from the land they had possessed for centuries, but until today they will not allow non-Muslims to be citizens of Saudi Arabia. Therefore, they should have no trouble understanding why the Jews have attempted to push the non Jewish Palestinians out of Palestine.]

4:317 Abdullah said, “when the Prophet returned (from Jihad), he would say Takbir [i.e. “Allah-o Akbar” (Allah is greater)] thrice and add, ‘We are returning, if Allah wishes, with repentance and worshiping and praising (our Lord) and prostrating ourselves before our Lord. Allah fulfilled His promise and helped His slave, and He alone defeated the (infidel) clans.’”

From Volume 9:

9:50 (& 4:283) Ali said, “… no Muslim should be killed … for killing a kafir (disbeliever).” [In other words, killing a non Muslim is not murder, it is holy war.]

9:57 Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn Abbas who said, “If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah’s Apostle forbade it, saying, ‘Do not punish anybody with Allah’s punishment (fire).’ I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.’”

[On page xxiv of his introduction to Bukhari’s Hadith, Dr. M. Khan, the translator (into English) writes, “Then Allah revealed in Sura Bara’at (9) the order to discard (all) the obligations (covenants, etc.) and commanded the Muslims to fight against all the pagans as well as against the people of the scriptures (Jews and Christians) if they do not embrace Islam, till they pay the Jizya (a tax levied on the Jews and Christians who do not embrace Islam and are under the protection of an Islamic government) with willing submission and feel themselves subdued (9:29). So they (Muslims) were not permitted to abandon ‘the fighting’ against them (Pagans, Jews and Christians) and to reconcile with them and to suspend hostilities against them for an unlimited period while they are strong and have the possibility of fighting against them.”]

Oliver Black

TL:DR

Oliver Black

TL:DR (again)

Loren James

Ann Inquirer: You are a war monger. Your only agenda is promote hate. How’s that working for you? Post again and again and all you prove is that you cannot take anything in except what you already believe. Ignorance is dooming you. You offend every non-Muslim who knows and loves someone of another faith.

My agenda is to promote truth, what is actually in the koran. And what you are reading are not my words. The koran convicts itself, if you would read it and understand the peace verses were abrogated (2:106). Truth is Hate to those who hate the truth. So you name-call out of laziness instead of researching for yourself.

Loren James

No Muslim regards Muhammad as the ‘messiah’. Muhammad is a prophet. Jesus is seen as a prophet who is called the ‘messiah’ which simply means ‘the anointed one’. Jews see the Messiah as the one who will return and restore them to their rightful status as kings and Christians believe that the Messiah was Jesus. Google is not only Ann Inquirer’s friend – it could be yours also. Use it.

It’s not the talents that is holding anyone back, it’s what is in the koran and sharia, what is says about women and their place in the world which every islamic scholar/imam/professor of Islamic law dictates via the koran & sharia – oppression by male supremacists. They MUST be modest or their curves harass men. They MUST not have a hair peaking out of the hijab or they harass men. Then men cannot help themselves because the women are asking to be raped. It is ALWAYS the woman’s fault, it is the reason the koran OKs their stoning. This is why American women are turned off by the hijab: not because they are muslim but because of the oppression the hijab represents. It’s like watching a slave walk around with chains on, even though they have been freed. IF, and that is IF a muslim can see it the way the citizens of this country see freedom, then PERHAPS there can be an understanding as to why hijabs are so offensive. But then I have yet to find a muslim who cares if I am offended.
However know, millions are reading the koran, a war manual against anyone who disagrees with what was written by a person who today would be clinically diagnosed a psychopath and people are not liking what they are reading. ISIS confirms the psychopathy because they are doing what Mo. mandated to the letter (after he canceled out his peace verses 2:106). The koran convicts itself. Criticism is not hate, it is observation. But Truth is Hate to those who hate the truth.

dyg70

Last I heard Minnesota wasn’t under Sharia Law.

Oliver Black

Two can play at the selective choice game, pretty sure Hitler was Christian…

Chaapashay

not all American or even westernized women are offended by hijab and certainly not do only muslim ladies wear them…..

Hamidah Fawad

Please stop quoting these idiots. They are not the authority on Islam and neither do most Muslims in the non Saudi Arab world listen to or follow such clerics. This is like you take the rantings of a TV Evangelist or KKK leader and put them up on Facebook or other social media and say that these are the edicts of leaders of Christianity. Lady, you are going to all the wrong places for information on Islam and the Muslim world.

Melissa

This is fantastic. I can’t wait till the day when there is a standard issue hijab made by uniform manufacturers which will signify that this country has truly evolved. Congratulations to Officer Mohamed for the hard work and dedication that it took to complete her training. What I think the naysayers on here don’t get is that the hijab is not a symbol of oppression but a personal choice to express modesty which I feel will not get in the way of her doing her job. Honestly it’s practically like wearing a bun, her hair is not going to be a hinderance to her. Serious respect to the St Paul Police Department for recognizing that that they had a fine officer in training and allowed her to complete her training and welcomed her to the force. I don’t see her as oppressed, she is following her chosen career path. The hijab practically looks like a standard issue hijab should look.

Jerome F Cherry

This is an awesome story. But the words ‘hijab wearing’ need a hyphen between them!

نور

Respect <3 God bless her

abu Basim Khan

Congratulation to Kadera Mohamed fur using the hijab and thanks to official to allow her for puting hijab. it is like police cap onthe head.Hijab will not creat any difficulty or problem in her daily rutine work.I hope that other Muslims women will follow the same..

It will create difficulty for those offended by it. For those who have learned what is in the koran and sharis and are appalled by it. For those who remember and saw 9/11. But then it is obvious she is not wanting to fit into America and its culture, but to isolate herself off from the majority of her countrymen.

Oliver Black

America is the land of the free, it has no fixed culture, except the constitution, which makes no mention of any religion…

Oliver Black

America is the land of the free, it has no fixed culture, except the constitution, which makes no mention of any religion…

Chaapashay

9/11 has absolutely nothing to do with hijab….

abu Basim Khan

Congratulation to Kadera Mohamed fur using the hijab and thanks to official to allow her for puting hijab. it is like police cap onthe head.Hijab will not creat any difficulty or problem in her daily rutine work.I hope that other Muslims women will follow the same..

Khin

How cool is what ? Her Hijab as police uniform or the fact that she’s Somali ? Which is which ? She’s making history ?

Khin

How cool is what ? Her Hijab as police uniform or the fact that she’s Somali ? Which is which ? She’s making history ?

What she is wearing hiding every hair on her head, so she will not tempt men, the purpose of a hijab. Hair can stimulate these male supremacist fascists to rape, and it is ALWAYS the woman’s fault that her body “causes” men to rape.

Oliver Black

Those are some rather strange views to hold, did you learn them from the Korean?

Oliver Black

Those are some rather strange views to hold, did you learn them from the Korean?

Oliver Black

Those are some rather strange views to hold, did you learn them from the Korean?

Oliver Black

Those are some rather strange views to hold, did you learn them from the Korean?

Oliver Black

Those are some rather strange views to hold, did you learn them from the Korean?

Also from imams and so-called scholars based on punishment for rape or adultery, Koran 24:2: “The woman and the man guilty of unlawful sex (adultery or fornication), flog each of them with a hundred stripes; let not compassion move you in their case in a matter prescribed by Allah if ye believe in Allah and the Last day; and let a party of the believers witness their punishment”

Oliver Black

What is your point, it is merely repeating the secular laws at the time. But as you have clearly been seriously radicalised by the american far right, I’m not going to waste my time replying.

That’s a law from your own belief system, not mine. I am merely quoting it. It’s not MY radicalization, it’s not even radicalization of Islam. Islam is Islam and all that is in it is what must be followed. The last thing that is “radical” is to NOT to follow it, like any sane normal person. Unfortunately the koran convicts itself and when the truth of verses are exposed, it’s hard to ignore, but often leads to denial.

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Oliver Black

You have been radicalised, and it isn’t ‘my belief system’

Oliver Black

You have been radicalised, and it isn’t ‘my belief system’

consiti ess

WHEN THEY EVENTUALLY OUTNUMBER THE NON-HIJAB WEARING COMMUNITY AND THEY START TO ENFORCE THEIR TYPE OF SHARIA IN AMERICA. THEN THEY’LL START TO BEHEAD YOU, YOUR CHILDREN AND LOVED ONES AS THEY ARE DOING IN NIGERIA AND THE MIDDLE EAST. AMERICANS WISE UP….

Deflect away from the issue, a CAIR tactic. The issue is what muslims are doing or have done, in the case of this article, having the MN police agree with sharia which allows flogging or stoning for rape because the woman always asks for it, if she is exposing herself. It’s sooo antiquated. Are the MN taxypayers paying for her hijab?

Religion is an idea in the head. Most important is oxygen, water and food to keep the head alive. Then the fun ideas of the head can be supported.

damifinoone2

Ridiculous. So glad I escaped MN.

damifinoone2

When all of this comes back and bites you in the a**, I hope all of you liberals are as open minded.

Oliver Black

You think this police officer is going to bite my arse? I’d be lucky.

Oliver Black

You think this police officer is going to bite my arse? I’d be lucky.

damifinoone2

Oh, and BTW, Hanan Challouki if you’re going to be a freelance jounalist, you don’t end a sentence with a preposition. “And it’s not their hijab that is holding them back. It’s those people
with narrow-minded views, refusing to see what kind of talents these
women might brighten up the world with.” And as for the hijab holding them back, the only holding them back is that they are considered by their religion to be not second class citizens, but of no consequence at all.

I noticed that too, but “dangling prepositions” are not longer taught as taboo. Am certain she does not know it is: “refusing to see what kind of talents of which these women might brighten up the world.” (Not that Mo. ever brightened up anything with his genocide, slave trading, rape, gender apartheid and pedophilia.0

dyg70

Actually that’s a false bit of grammar we were all taught as kids.

Grover Paul Weaver

I love it. I can not wait to hear the Religious Republicans declare ”Sharia Law” has come to America because of the sister’s appointment! Congrats!

Oliver Black

See below…

Rick X Brown

L?K out ! this is another way for the open enemy to use what they hate to further Amerikkka agenda without notice sister or sisters you are being USED , and when they are finish with they will feed to the dogs .

ZulAiram Medina

I willalways respect and trust someone that show their believes than somebody to hide them…. Im cristian and bravo for her !!!!!!

onemoregone

Question can she by Muslim law or rules put her Hand on a man other than her husband

onemoregone

Question can she by Muslim law or rules put her Hand on a man other than her husband

Hamidah Fawad

There are many Muslim doctors in the world and they don’t limit their treatment to women.

But they ALL have other female nurses in the room. But now most moslem women try to find a female doctor.

Hamidah Fawad

Where do you get this shit from. You keep saying “Most Muslims this, most Muslims that” – As if you personally know the 1.6 billion (minus 1)Muslims in this world. That Minus 1 is me as you definitely don’t know me. All I can do is pray that God puts some sense into your head and compassion and tolerance in your heart.

In my earlier comment I meant to say there are many Female Muslim doctors as well as nurses and they treat both men and women equally.

And No. They ALL don’t always have other female nurses in the room because of Islam. Most patients (whichever religion they may belong to) prefer to be treated by members of their own sex. It is just more comfortable. And in the U.S. and the U.K., use of chaperones (usually females) by doctors of both sexes is a common practice especially when they are doing intimate examinations on patients belonging to the opposite sex. Doctors prefer this as it protects them from accusations of sexual misconduct.
There is nothing in Islam which prevents this woman from being a police officer. She has every right to choose whatever career she wants to. Islam and the Amercian consitution gives her this right. As for wearing her Hijab on the job, as long as it does not interfere in the performance of her duties or any kind of head gear is prohibited for all police officers, whether male or female, muslim or non muslim, noone should have a problem with that. Yes, if it is proven that her Hijab will affect her work as a police officer, then Islam gives her the right and freedom to take it off while she is on duty. But she need not give up her job / career because of the Hijab.

Something not mentioned in the article I would like to know, is did the taxpayers pay for her custom hijab (or what I assume to be custom made)?

Daniel Garcia

I’m sorry to throw my machismo around for just a moment but she is beautiful….and a breath of fresh air in law enforcement..let her not be the only one to be included. Everyone has the opportunity to be and do what we want, and let her and everyone be safe protecting and serving.

Rick Lopez Jr.

Then clearly you don’t give a fuck about women or women’s rights. The hijab is a sign of submission to god and the men of her religion. Do you cower in the face of christian males and cover your body or head or else suffer abuse by men or hatred by your god?

Rick Lopez Jr.

she’s submissive to abusive males of her religion and her child raping messiah and misogynistic god.

Klappskalli von Porsche

is she cold? why cant she wear the fnkciug uniform like anybody else??

AddisonDewitt

so if a girl gets her period at 9 she is fair game for se x with a 50 year old man…lovely. That you accept this in the name of your religion is sick. If you have a daughter may it happen to her.

Naadhi Lennon

Actually I have 4 daughters. And these days kids are committing fornication at 6 and 7. My child was married at 14 to a boy who was 17. None of my daughters are going to be mistreated by any man. And if you read the hadiths narrated by Aisha, the wife in question, she loved her husband.

14 – with bones not fully formed and the epiphesial plates to closed, getting pregnant will really screw up her bone growth and strength, not to mention width of pelvis – among other necessary growth factors.
Yes, we would not be 7+billion if women couldn’t give birth, but with what we know about physiology why put marriage on a girl so young. That’s the difference between education of the 7th century and that of the 21st.

Naadhi Lennon

Well if you believe in God, I think since He made our bodies He would be better equipped to know what we can handle than scientists. also I would rather my daughter be having sex as a married woman than as a fornicator. my daughter is now 20 and just had her 1st baby! Just because you get married doesn’t mean you’re having babies. Just means in God’s eye it’s ok to have sex! Also I didn’t put marriage on her, that was her choice. I taught my girls that if you’re ready to have sex, then you’re ready to get married!!

Hamidah Fawad

Aren’t teenage pregnancies a menace in American society today. We all agree that children as young as 9 and 10 are having sex without proper precautions or care. I myself don’t agree with people marrying till they are independent and able to take care of themselves, whether male or female, but if Naadhi’s daughter felt she was ready for the responsibility then it’s her choice as long it is not against the law in her country. At least her daughter was not screwing around and getting pregnant at 14 unlike a large number of American teens who totally ruin their own lives as well those of the children they bear. And ofcourse there are those that decide to abort their babies putting themselves through both physical and emotional trauma and at times physical risk of infection, death and permanent infertility. These girls who are doing all this also have bones that are not fully formed yet they are having babies as young as 11 or 12 years of age.

Lila Oumeraci

Don t forget it was 14 cetury again and at that time it was normal to be married at that age, mesntruated or not, But he didn t have any relation with her untill she had her period, this is from one side, from another if his point was really to get married with virgin girls, why all of the other wives he had weren t, they ve all been married before him, and even older than him. Don t just take one little piece of History that suit your point of vue and ignore the rest. And the fact that he married the widows is exactely to lead the followers to not only seak to marry a young non married ( before) woman but also widows to take care of the orphans. You have to see the whole picture.

Islam Al Amrikee

Professor of Sociology Anthony Joseph Paul Cortese says that a 50 year old man being with a girl under 10 (being intimate) Under United States law was legal until the mid 1960s,

“In 1962, the American Law Institute recommended that the legal age of consent to sex- that is, the age below which sex is defined as statutory rape- be dropped in every state to age 10 (Katchadourian and Lund 1972: 439). In fact, until the mid 1960s, the legal age of consent in Delaware was 7 (Kling, 1965: 216). So a 50 year old man could legally have sexual intercourse with a 7 year old boy or girl.”

In the US, that is called Statutory Rape, usual age is 17 and under. Your info is out of date.

Oliver Black

Are you blind, they clearly said: “UNTIL THE MID 1960s”, do you actually read what people write?

Hamidah Fawad

I don’t think she reads anything. She has a heart full of hate and a lot if misinformation on Islam which she disseminates as if she is a learned scholar of all religions. God save us from such pseudo intellectuals

Hamidah Fawad

In a reply to an earlier comment of mine regarding arranged marriage you had mentioned that “directives/laws /rules can always be on the books but it doesn’t mean they are enforced”. So inspite of there being a law against sexual intercourse with children under 17 in the US, it is still a very common phenomenun in the US. This brings me back to my point that the way people behave has a lot more to do with culture than religion. If one were to purely follow religion (any religion because all religions advocate certain basic ethical behaviors) and not culture there would be no lying, no cheating, no violence, no murder, everyone would respect the rights of others, people would not have sex outside of marriage (again most religions would prefer you to be married before you had sex) and there would be no extra marital affairs or transgessions. But all this is not possible because human beings are a complex amalgamation of culture, religion, economic conditions and geographical conditions. As for culture, a person can be a product of a mix of cultures – a certain type of culture prevalent in ones household/family, in teh socitey one lives inand a different national narrative.

In the US, that is called Statutory Rape, usual age is 17 and under. Your info is out of date.

Jeanine El Moghrabi

There is no proof that they consumated the marriage when she was 9, many sources show she was 18. However, even if they did, it was socially acceptable at the time, EVEN IN EUROPE YOU HYPOCRITICAL PRICK. DON’T PASS JUDGEMENTS WHEN YOUR PEOPLE DID THE SAME THING. And im sorry, have you forgotten the amish? And look in on american news form time to time, from those hill billy extremist christians, who also mary off their daughters at these ages. Uneducated hypocrite.

Please cite those sources that she was 18. There is not doubt he married her at 6.

Jeanine El Moghrabi

Omg where did you get 6, are you just changing numbers how you want? Everyone knows that their marriage was assumed to have happened when she was around 9, just how uneducated are you? And you seemed to ignore what I mentioned, the fact that marrying a lady when she reaches puberty was accepted worldwide in history, so get of your high horses you hypocritical retards, go get a valid argument.

Naadhi Lennon

It is true that Aisha RA was betrothed to the Prophet PBUH @ 6 and consummated at 9. That is in Sahih Bukhari and Muslim. The point to bicker about is that she was not raped, and she loved him with all of her heart!

Veandercross

Youre actually displaying the exact same ignorance hate mongerers display when they copy and paste without actually knowing what they are copying and pasting.

First of all, quoting some Iranian cleric in 1980 only shows you are quoting one man’s isolated opinion. Not the offocial stance of the religion. Islam forbids sexual acts with animals. The fact this individual quoted may or may not have disagreed with it doesn’t invalidate Islam’s official position on the matter.

Secondly a cleric’s opinion is non binding. It would be like me quoting David Koresh or the Westboro Baptist Church or the Klu Klux Klan and stating this is what Christianity’s position is on a certain matter. It would be utterley absurd and I’d lose credibility instantly. You’re doing the exact same thing.

Re Ayesha’s marriage, this is the same repeated nonsense that’s been going around for the past 10 years. Yes because not even Mohammad’s staunchest enemies objected to the union. You dont find a single statement in Islamic history – anywhere – even from those who wanted to kill him about this marriage.

Fourthly, you forget Mary was just 12 years old when God of the Bible “came upon her” (no pun intended) and impregnanted her. At the same time she was alledgedly impregnated by God – her human husband was Joseph. He was – wait for it – 90 years old. She was 12, he was 90 yet you don’t see a single apologist like yourself raise any opposition or calling God or Joseph a pedophile.

Fifthly we have throughout history – Jewish, Christian and Muslim recorded instances of young marriages. One of the Queen’s of England was married at 6. Jewish scholars allow marriage to toddlers as young as 3.

You can rant and rave all you like because you have absolutely no idea what these historical accounts mean, no idea how these marriages took place and the forces behind these types of unions – you are looking at ancient practices with strictly present day lenses and then feigning outrage.

They can “marry” as soon as birth, if arranged by the Men of each family. Since Aisha was “married” at six, that is a common age, and supposedly the men “just” dry hump. Still all rape in my books. But as we see with Khomeini, who is dead btw, infants are fair game. Other “scholars” have the same fatwa for sex with infants. I know it’s a really hard bubble to burst for the sheltered and gullible that people who follow the Mo. are rapists and enslavers of the very young.

Hamidah Fawad

The culture you are talking about here is the Hindu culture in India where girls and boys as young as a few months old are married off. And girls as young as six or seven or married off to men 3-4 times their age, who have been previously married. I don’t see you saying anything about the plight of these children. Or do you feel sorry for only Muslim girls

They can “marry” as soon as birth, if arranged by the Men of each family. Since Aisha was “married” at six, that is a common age, and supposedly the men “just” dry hump. Still all rape in my books. But as we see with Khomeini, who is dead btw, infants are fair game. Other “scholars” have the same fatwa for sex with infants. I know it’s a really hard bubble to burst for the sheltered and gullible that people who follow the Mo. are rapists and enslavers of the very young.

Loren James

Addison Dewitt: In 1880, the age of consent for a girl was 10-12 years old with Delaware being the exception because the age of consent was 7 years old. Sick, you say? How about the ancient Hebrews in the Bible?
‘And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? … Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.’ — Numbers 31:15-18
How about not throwing stones when you live in a glass house? We have evolved. What happened in ancient times has nothing to do with the present.

Hassan Abdul-Rahim

If she is a Muslim , do your job, if she a Christion , do your job , if she a Isreal do the job . If any thing else , do the job !

KDMR DRYVHSH

Congrats! I wish Kadra the best!

doobiedoo

I for one would ripe that thing from her head should she interact with me.. and go to jail for the pleasure..

Teal Flower

Wearing a head dress because of your faith is no different than wearing a cross or any other symbol that identifies your belief. It is important that a person’s religious belief does not oppose the laws of the system.
(Seperation of Church and State)

You must know know of the chauvanism that is behind the hijab. A woman is not even suppose to look up at the world.

Koran 33:5: – “Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them…”A woman is only allowed to present herself unveiled to family and slaves. “It shall be no crime in them as to their fathers, or their sons, or their brothers, or their brothers’ sons, or their sisters’ sons, or their woman, or the slaves which their right hands possess, if they speak to them unveiled”
Koran 24:31: -The woman is not only supposed to cover herself, except with relatives, but to look down, so as to avoid making eye-contact with men. “And say to the believing women that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts and do not display their ornaments except what appears thereof, and let them wear their head-coverings over their bosoms, and not display their ornaments except to their husbands or their fathers, or the fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or their brothers’ sons, or their sisters’ sons, or their women, or those whom their right hands possess, or the male servants not having need (of women), or the children who have not attained knowledge of what is hidden of women; and let them not strike their feet so that what they hide of their ornaments may be known.”

Cindy Eby

Let’s hope she gives up the hijab soon. It is a symbol of a religion that degrades women…kills women, actually. I support her right to wear it if she wants, but I hope she will reach a point where she doesn’t want to.

jr umm

I live in Minneapolis. I question my decision to move here 6 months out of the year (the winter’s are no joke). There is a big East and West African population, and I’m happy to see the young sister get in the door. We need to have more officers like her. We also have a large Asian population, so I would like to see more Hmong and Karen officers as well.

MIKE

check that thumb placement ?? should be inline with all fingers

Shantel D

Though I’m not Muslim, I find this very empowering. I hope the bigots who usually happen to be police supporters respect her. #WomenRock.

cliffhopper

I hear Fox News now with their Sharia schnick

A.k. Jonny

Why does it matter what scarf she wears? Really, who gives a shit? You’re applauding her because she’s a Muslim, or because she’s a female police officer, or because she’s adhering to her religious beliefs in a state that has one of the largest Muslim populations in the country? Either way that’s incredibly condescending, racist, & sexist.

J Carapiet

Hijab is from Arab tradition and originated from the sex slave trade! Captive women were covered up to protect their skin from the hot desert sun while being transported from one town to another to be sold, It had nothing to do with their modesty but more to do with commerce.

That’s not what Mo. said. It’s essentially to put them in a black hole and obey their male supremacists. After all Islam means submission.
Koran 33:5: – “Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them…”A woman is only allowed to present herself unveiled to family and slaves. “It shall be no crime in them as to their fathers, or their sons, or their brothers, or their brothers’ sons, or their sisters’ sons, or their woman, or the slaves which their right hands possess, if they speak to them unveiled”
Koran 24:31: -The woman is not only supposed to cover herself, except with relatives, but to look down, so as to avoid making eye-contact with men. “And say to the believing women that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts and do not display their ornaments except what appears thereof, and let them wear their head-coverings over their bosoms, and not display their ornaments except to their husbands or their fathers, or the fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or their brothers’ sons, or their sisters’ sons, or their women, or those whom their right hands possess, or the male servants not having need (of women), or the children who have not attained knowledge of what is hidden of women; and let them not strike their feet so that what they hide of their ornaments may be known.”

ISO

i wouldn’t trust a police with this kind of mentality. But i don’t know her specifically. There are many other that shouldn’t be polices. Anyone can be a police? too bad!

ISO

i wouldn’t trust a police with this kind of mentality. But i don’t know her specifically. There are many other that shouldn’t be polices. Anyone can be a police? too bad!

Western Islam is confused, you can’t be a true moslem unless you follow the Koran. Those muslims you know would be slaughtered for blasphemy for such a position, and there are plenty of “real” aka fundamental moslems in the US to do it. ISIS says they are here. They won’t put up with that position.
Islamist, muslim, moslem are all generic monikers. If terrorist org.like CAIR tells me I can’t use one, that’s the one I use. I don’t kowtow to jihadists and traitors in the US.

I am not interpreting anything when I post quotes, you only want to argue OR you can’t get that point into your thick noggin.

Oliver Black

Ok, but how do you explain the 2 billion muslims who interpret it differently?

Judy Gibson

There is a Facebook discussion regarding whether the hijab is a safety issue for officer Mohamed. Nobody there seems to have a clue, so I thought I’d ask here where I might get an informed answer. Her hijab appears to have a Velcro closure on the left side. If it also has one on the right, that would pretty much eliminate any possibility of using it as a weapon against her. Comments?

Hersi Jambo

How did turn into a debate about ISIS and circumcision? smh

Abu hudayfa

As an islamic scholar i obtain the view that she is not a muslim, a muslim man/woman can not join american police because they dont follow islamic law

Critical Thinker

So, what is she?

Critical Thinker

Folks, this is important to address. This man is claiming that she is not even a Muslim because American police don’t follow Islamic law. This either proves other points I’ve made below, or he is lying, or all of the so-called Muslims on this thread are not real Muslims.

That’s a fun question, because Abu is a fundamentalist, following the mandates of Mo. to the letter. They consider themselves the real moslems and if you compare what they say to what Mo. says, they strictly conform.

The others not so much. But they are not being taught what Mo. taught after the Doctrine of Abrogation. So they don’t know. This is why there is do much debate and confusion with them.

Critical Thinker

Two things that come to mind: First, I’d like to read how the others (moderate Muslims) confront him on this, and what specific arguments they present as to why he is wrong and they are right… we already know where he stands and why he is “right” in his view. Second, I find that there is a whole lot of blurring of the lines that gets swept under the rug, between fundamentalist like Abu, and supposed moderate Muslims like others here. I get the perception that there are Muslims who walk the line between these two views, and depending upon who they’re with (other Muslims vs. non-Muslims), will modify their stance. I could be wrong, but that is what I suspect, based on other message board conversations I’ve had with other Muslims. So, my point is that I am skeptical that it’s as black & white a picture as the moderates like to paint for all of us non-Muslims.

We have been discussing the reason for a hijab was modesty, and not to invite rape with a hair out of place from under it so that a woman won’t be stoned for her own rape since many men consider her “tempting” them. That led to the more discussions of rape, rape with captives. Sources keep being asked for, so here they are. (The first paragraph below is most important for those who don’t know about the Doctrine of Abrogation 2:106)

Critics of Islam and Sharia frequently claim that the Koran allows Muslim men to rape
their female captives and slave girls (i.e. those “whom their right hands possess”). Westernized Muslims, however, are appalled at the thought of their religion allowing rape, so they insist that Islam prohibits this practice. Unfortunately, Islam isn’t defined by Westernized Muslims; it’s defined by Allah and Muhammad in the Koran and the Hadith. So instead of inventing a religion based on the feelings of Westernized Muslims and calling it “Islam,” let’s turn to the Koran and the
Hadith to see what Allah and Muhammad have to say about this issue.

As Muhammad’s armies raided town after town, they captured many women, who would often be sold or traded. Yet, since the Muslim men were a long way from their wives, they needed wisdom from Allah to guide them in their treatment of their female captives. Allah revealed:

Koran 23:1-6—The Believers must (eventually) win through—those who humble themselves in their prayers; who avoid vain talk; who are active in deeds of charity; who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands
possess—for (in their case) they are free from blame.

Koran 70:22-30—Not so those devoted to Prayer—those who remain steadfast to their prayer; and those in whose wealth is a recognized right for the (needy) who asks and him who is prevented (for some reason from asking); and those who hold to the truth of the Day Of Judgement; and those who fear the displeasure of their Lord—for their Lord’s displeasure is the opposite of Peace and Tranquility—and those who guard their chastity, except with their wives
and the (captives) whom their right hands possess—for (then) they are not to be blamed.

Notice that Allah commands Muslims to abstain from sex, except with their wives and with “those whom their right hands possess, ” captives/slaves. Allah gave the same sexual rights to Muhammad:

Koran 33:50—O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war …

The Muslim practice of having sex with captured women is reported often in the Hadith, where we learn that Muhammad’s only objection to sex with captives was his condemnation of birth control.

Sahih Muslim 3371—We went out with Allah’s Messenger on the expedition to the Bi’l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing azl (withdrawing the male sexual organ
before emission of semen to avoid conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah’s Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah’s Messenger, and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.

Sahih al-Bukhari 4138—We went out with Allah’s Apostle for the invasion of Bun Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus [same as “azl” above]. So when we intended to do coitus interruptus, we said: “How can we do coitus interruptus before asking Allah’s Apostle who is present among us? We asked (him) about it and he said: “It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul till the Day of Resurrection is predestined to exist, it will exist.”

Sahih Muslim 3384—Jabir bin Abdullah reported that a person asked Allah’s Apostle saying: I have a slave-girl and I practice azl with her, whereupon Allah’s Messenger said: This cannot prevent that which Allah has decreed. The person then came (after some time) and said: Messenger of Allah, the slave-girl about whom I talked to you has conceived, whereupon Allah’s
Messenger said: I am the servant of Allah and His Messenger.

Clearly, Muslims were taking full advantage of Muhammad’s teachings about female captives and slave girls. Nevertheless, Muslims eventually captured women along with their husbands, so
they wondered if Allah would allow them to have sex with these married captives (since adultery is otherwise forbidden in Islam).

Sunan Abu Dawud 2150—The Apostle of Allah sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Koranic verse: “And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess.” That is to say, they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period.

Thus, the Koran allows men to have sex with their female captives and slave girls, and the Hadith provides numerous examples of how this was practiced. Yet we must follow this fact through to its
logical conclusion. Muslims decided to have sex with their captives, whom they were later going to sell. Some of these captives were women whose husbands and families had been slaughtered by Muslims. Others had husbands who had been captured by Muslims. Would these women gladly consent to sexual intercourse with men who had killed their families or taken their families captive, and who were simply going to sell them into slavery when they arrived at the next town?
Certainly not. But since the Koran and Muhammad authorized sex with these women (and said nothing about seeking their permission), we can only conclude that Muhammad allowed his followers to rape their captives.

And we see the fundamentalists of Islam today, ISIS, doing just what is in these verses.

Oliver Black

Islam is whatever the believer wants it to be, not what ann inquirer wants it to be

Oliver Black

Islam is whatever the believer wants it to be, not what ann inquirer wants it to be

ocdetf

Ridiculous. Glad I don’t live anywhere near that city.

richard

Nothing is cool in Minnesota.

ezra.jones

wtf why is this an achievement? there’s a reason you have a uniform when you’re an officer and this just proves they’ll kowtow to psycho religious demands. very scary

Ali

ALL YOU JUST SHUT THE F UP AND GET ALONG.

Critical Thinker

Or what?

Ali

Just wash your ass

Critical Thinker

Always. Glad you have a sense of humor.

Ali

THANKS JUST ACT LIKE A MAN AND ALL GET ALONG.

Critical Thinker

YOU ACT LIKE MAN TOO.

Ali

SORRY NOONE SHOULD ARGUE ABOUT SOMETHING POSITIVE THAT HAPPENED YOU SHOULD APPLAUD HER AND JUST KERP GOING ITS GOOD FOR EVERYONE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION.

with what hand? Do the male supremacist fascists tell us what hand we MUST wash with?

Ali

ITS A FREE COUNTRY.

Alec

No, let’s hope she does stay the exception. Absolutely DISGUSTING that this would be allowed… a FEMALE + MUSLIM + POLICE OFFICER, directly contradicts the Islamic religion.

It seems to me, that she likes to cherry pick and the only thing she picked up from islam, was to “wear a hijab”… seems like everything else didn’t interest her. It’s a joke, and will never be implemented in a major of law enforcement agencies.

Oliver Black

Pretty sure that isn’t against islam being a female police officer

Oliver Black

Pretty sure that isn’t against islam being a female police officer

saf

there is a hadith related to wearing of men clothes by women , as a police officer one must wear a uniform that contradicts the ahadeeth, so dress code doesn’t get along the shariah

I can’t put links on this page, but this is an interesting article which comes to the conclusion that Islam does not order a certain way of dressing.It appears to vary from country to country.

From the website questionsonislam dot com
Is it forbidden for women to wear trousers (pants) in Islam?

A Brief Description of the Question:
My sister is a nurse and she wears scrubs but my uncle says woman are not allowed to ware pants. I need help with this.

The Answer:
Those who look from different views may reach to different conclusions. So I will try to express my view and you can decide on that.

Today men and women’s clothing are not as clearly distinctive as in the past.
I am telling this for this reason.

Indeed for Muslim women’s clothing if the first issue is hijab (veiling), the second one is being different from men’s clothing.

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) damns on – Men who wear women’s clothing and women who wear men’s clothing, thus looking like the opposite gender. The society needs this separation for the identity protection of genders.
But today men’s clothing is not definite as in the past. Trousers became also part of women’s clothing. As a matter of fact men wear skirt like clothing in Saudi Arabia. So there is no a fixed men’s clothing. Therefore today trousers should be examined not from the aspect of being a part of men’s clothing or not, but being tight or loose and exposing the body shape or not. If a woman wears a wide enough trousers hiding the shape of her body and covers her hips hanging down her upper clothing, then this should not be considered as a men’s clothing.

One day a woman falls down from her donkey on the path near to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). He immediately turns his head to another direction. Then his companions tell him that no private part of the woman was seen because she wore pants under her skirt. Upon this Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) prays for women wearing pants under their skirts and preventing their legs from being seen even if they fall down. As Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) praised, wide/loose/baggy trousers can provide the needed covering when getting on a bus, going upstairs etc. So you may find my view correct or not, and you can decide on the subject knowing the facts. Your decision may be affected from your personal conditions and mood. (Ahmed Şahin)

As you understand from the passage given above. Islam does not order a certain way of dressing and apparel. It does not force its followers to take a certain way of dressing. Additionally, something that Islam orders must not be forgotten. The main criterion on clothing of a woman is understood as:
§ Covering the private parts. (The private parts of a woman is the whole body except hands and face)
§ Not wearing transparent, short and tight clothes. (That is to say, the body and underclothes must not be seen.)
.

Linda Walker

She only has her head covered. This instead of a cap. As long as she upholds the oath taken then she should be treated like any other LEO. Trust has to start somewhere. If she breaks her oath then that is a different story.

Her faith demands that her allegiance is to Islam first according to Sharia, and that all other legal codes submit to sharia. This is in true conflict with Article 6 which states the Constitution is the highest law of the land. The only way to decide this question is to ask the officer herself: Is your allegiance first to the US Constitution or to Islam? I do not know about MN, but most police officers swear allegiance to the Constitution. With Sharia, one can’t in purity do both.
…There could be other real issues. Is she going to refuse to handle evidence such as a bottle or glass of liquor that may be needed for DNA? Will she go into a restaurant to stop a fight that is cooking pork? These are questions, not a declaration of war.

Oliver Black

They don’t contradict each other, so it doesn’t matter (Hint: she subscribes to your so called ‘con-man’ islam, which is civil and moderate)

Oliver Black

They don’t contradict each other, so it doesn’t matter (Hint: she subscribes to your so called ‘con-man’ islam, which is civil and moderate)

Hamidah Fawad

@ Ann Inquirer – In Islam if you live in a country that does not have Islamic law you are required by faith to follow the laws of the country you live in. It is the basic duty of every Muslim to follow the rules of the land they inhabit. In personal matters like family laws and inheritance laws, there are guideances (Sharia) but if the country you live in does not recognize this you as a Muslim are expected to follow the law of the land. However, as in the case of Jewish law for Jewish members of the US population, if the US Law recognises certain areas of Shria Law specifically relating to areas of life which do not affect non-muslims e.g family and inheritance, then a Muslim can choose to follow these laws as long as they are not in conflict with the law of the land.
As for alcohol and pork – consumption of these items is forbidden in Islam, not handling of these items. We all wear perfumes which contain alcohol.
And what about orthodox jews. Both items are forbidden to them as well. But I don’t see you asking Jewish officers these questions.
And Hindus and Buddhists are vegetarians – are they also going to be kept out of law enforcement because they also cannot handle meat so technically they cannot enter most of the restaurants in the US.

I am not asking others questions about others silly rules because the issue is islam. You are using the moslem playbook of deflecting from the issue away from islam and trying to blame others. As far as allegiance, I only read in the koran that allegiance is a must to the imaginary Allan and the psychopath conman who made him up, Moham. I have little respect for any of it considering the death toll.

I am not asking others questions about others silly rules because the issue is islam. You are using the moslem playbook of deflecting from the issue away from islam and trying to blame others. As far as allegiance, I only read in the koran that allegiance is a must to the imaginary Allan and the psychopath conman who made him up, Moham. I have little respect for any of it considering the death toll.

I am not asking others questions about others silly rules because the issue is islam. You are using the moslem playbook of deflecting from the issue away from islam and trying to blame others. As far as allegiance, I only read in the koran that allegiance is a must to the imaginary Allan and the psychopath conman who made him up, Moham. I have little respect for any of it considering the death toll.

Hamidah Fawad

If you are not asking questions of others you should be. Singling out Islam and Muslims seems to be your hobby. And u don’t seem to be looking at them with same critical eye. And I have not blamed anyone just stated facts about other Cultures. Note that I have used the word culture not religion. But from your arguments or rather lack of rational arguments it is clear that you are a bigot and a racist and no rational person can have a rational and meaningful discussion with. You are a waste of time.

Loren James

Ann Inquirer’s problem is more than a hobby. She is not rational.

m.rega

My only concern with the Hijab in this instance only comes from being a paramedic and my personal experiences with violent persons that this may pose some safety problems that could arise from wearing. From a quick google search shows that most are made from silk or man made fibers which do not stretch, which in a ground fight or chase can hazard or a make shift weapon against her. I have no problems with displays of religion but I have stark scene and officer safety concerns, but if it does not show to have any safety issues I feel as though this should be a none issue. I wish her the best of luck and welcome her to a career in public safety.
(I am Catholic so if any of my facts reported above are not truthful ie. the google search information, i am sorry for this representation.)

Anne

You know what? Good for her, thank you city of Saint Paul and Metro Transit for allowing her the chance to wear the badge and help law abiding people to feel safe. Maybe as a person who had felt and been oppressed she’ll have a little more compassion than a white, male, Christian officer.

DahktaD

Ok…lets start authorizing ceremonial knives and swords; want to wear a turban, fine; facial piercings of all types, AOK; Ceremonial robes, why not; need to wear ceremonial feathers, that works; tattoos, the more the merrier, especially those neck and facial ones. In essence, why the hell even have a uniform standard, just show up dressed the way you want.

Dale Setty

Why cant she wear her religious garb when she’s worshipping and her damn uniform when shes doing a job she knew had uniform regulations when she signed on. Thank goodness God understands and christians dont have to wear robes and sandals 24/7. Get over yourselves.

Loren James

The cops in America wearing ‘the damn uniform’ aren’t winning any prizes, buddy. Why don’t other cops get rid of their enormous bellies and get fit so they can overtake someone without killing him?

kthomp1123

Maybe if we stop pointing out that she is wearing hijab, we will eventually stop noticing.

Johnette D Van Dien

I think it’s fabulous. What annoys me is my own department telling me I need to “hide” my cross!

Dale Setty

This has nothing to do with the police and their performance. This is about religion, and one religion in particular, being given preferential treatment and allowed to skirt the rules and regulations of a job this person voluntarily applied for and gained position in. I mean seriously why can’t She just follow the same rules as everyone else? I’m sure whatever God she believes in will understand if she doesn’t have that on her head during working hours.

Ricky

I’d really like more information on who Kadra Mohamed is. This article is lacking that. All i know is that she is a woman, 21 years old, a Muslim, a Somali and wearing a hijab. I really don’t care to much about her religion, only if she will do her job. It’s great to know she is the first Somali woman police officer. I’d like to know about why she wanted to join the force, what does she think about it. When did she know she wanted to be a police officer. Details like that. As well as the controversial stuff of like is she going to follow the U.S. constitution and the rules of being a police officer, yatta yatta. If that information is possible to get, I think it will make this article much better, 😀

Dubfire

All these morons are now debating about religion when the material evidence is there for all to see that, women wearing hijab are been refused jobs and other opportunities in a very stylish fashion. An employer spoke with a lady via a phone, when she showed up for an interview wearing hijab he said the position has already been filed, he however “promised” to keep her resume for future job openings, and he said that to her so that he would Not appear biased based on her religious denomination forgetting that the applicant is just like any other lady wearing short skirt and showing the world their breasts.

Jason Holliday

If you wish to get technical, our entire early legal system was based on Christian ideology in this country. If you don’t believe me, you obviously have never read the laws of any of the 50 states. To say otherwise is foolhardy. Having said this, I could care less but if they allow this then they have to allow ever single religion that has rules of dress to follow.

Pisst

If I was pulled over by her I would take off for my life. America is finished. The ideal of Islam taking over the world is no longer just an idea. It’s happening one hijab wearing cop at a time. Anyone who doesn’t see this is part of the problem.

Loren James

You have far more to fear from Rick Santorum and Rick Perry. In Canada we have had policemen wearing turbans for years. The Sikhs have not taken over. Our doctors and lawyers wear hijabs. We are doing fine.The USA has troops all over the world and you are worried that Muslims are taking over your country. Guess how the Iraqis feel when you destroy their homes. Thankfully, Muslims seem to value education more than the average person. Expect some wiser and more knowledgeable police officers if there are more Muslims in your police department. The problem is ignorance and the desire to foment hatred. That’s were the problem starts. It starts with you.

Rebecca Foster

So will she follow US law or Sharia Law?

asimpleamerican

The whole point to this topic is the fact that she is breaking stereotypes of Muslim women in America. I think its a wonderful move on her because she is saying that even though we have the Hijab on and its apart of me it doesn’t mean that Muslim Women can’t do the jobs provided in America. I applaud her on her bravery and doing what she wants. I understand where she’s coming from because I’m a Muslim and i’m in the military. Although I may not wear the Hijab, it’s a start to saying Muslim Women need to stand up and be able to do what we want. Although while not disregarding our religion and roles as Muslim women.

Pisst

Not cool at all. Why would she want to?

Dale Setty

If u really oppose this hijab exception to the rules expect the biased mod to ditch your comment. Its lame but thats what lame people do.

Em

You go girl! I’m glad she’s in Minnesota, because I can’t imagine how hot it could be running in a hijab and a police uniform!

kitty

As a Muslin woman who wears the hijab, I find Kadra’s story hopeful for those who wish to pursue a career in law enforcement. So what does it matter if she’s a Muslim, covering her hair out of respect for her religion? I see no reason why people should have a problem with it as long as she serves and protects her community.

If that’s the case, why are people talking about gay rights, abortion, Sharia Law..etc..? It’s sad to see my faith being ripped apart, analyzed, and discussed about like as if it were some sort of experiment….But please, before you go ahead spouting what you know about Islam from sources like Wikipedia or FOX News, why don’t you ask a real Muslim first?

Shafeeq Ibn Wyche’ Rafeequllah

Its interesting to hear non Muslims people talk about islamic law (Sharia). When most of Our Current Laws and Customs came with the European Renaissance are the result of the Europeans in the dark ages learning from the muslims. Sanitation, animal rights, science, mathematics, Ect

Shafeeq Ibn Wyche’ Rafeequllah

more importantly for those who believe that Sharia is a bad thing for Muslims in America. understand this, true Sharia cannot be followed because it must be under a Muslim country under Muslim rule with Muslim jurist. we are not allowed to be vigilant ease with regards to Shariah. it is forbidden. we are obligated by the Shariah to follow the rules in the country in which we live. unless the rules command us to do something against our core beliefs. Anyone telling you anything else does not know what they’re talking about

Chewbacka Grizelda

So much love and support for her! And I agree, these stereotypes should not be a problem for her, for any woman, or for any-one- period. We need to stop coddling those who possess and act on any stereotype. Just fire their butts and replace them with people like her 😀 <3

Bruce Sokolovic

UNIFORM. Means everyone looks the same. Why would anyone take a uniformed job when they are so controlled by their religion they need to wear specific clothing all the time?

Loren James

Would you rather have an uneducated, overweight, under-trained cop in a uniform or have someone who is fit, well educated and well-trained in a hijab? Your cops are fat bozos whose lack of judgement has them killing unarmed kids. My Christian friends are ‘so well controlled by their religion’ that they have to say ‘grace’ before every meal. Same thing.

Dulce Tavira

I guess they really are taking over the world, what is wrong with us?

George

Perhaps what many fail to realize is this is America and everyone has rights, not just the minorities that keep craming their beliefs down our throats. a police or military uniform is a symbol of respect, whether it is worn by the police, military, etc. UNIFORM meaning all the same. We wouldn’t tolerate officers with mohaks, purple hair, clown makeup, dressed in drag, the makeup of a prostitute, a KKK mask, etc., so why should we tolerate this. This discriminates against every other man in uniform that is held to a higher standard. It’s a disgrace. If they have a problem going out in public without their HIJAB, it’s just that, THEIR PROBLEM. Yes, this country was built on FREEDOM OF RELIGION, but that doesn’t mean our beliefs have to change because theirs are different. If they can’t adjust to life in the United State, go back to the middle east. I’m not prejudice, I’m entitle to my beliefs also. One of those is that a uniform is a symbol of respect. We live in a world, more so than ever, where are police are continuously in the public eye and being judged. As much as I respect the police, if an officer in a HIJAB attempted to stopped me for any reason, I would ignore them as a law enforcement officer the same if I saw a clown with a badge, both are a pathetic joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is an honor and a privilege to where those uniforms, not a platform to make political statements. If they want to make a political statement, go into politics and see if the rest of the world agree with your views. I don’t!

Loren James

Who exactly is ‘cramming their beliefs down our throats’? NO MUSLIM has ever tried to convert me. NO MUSLIM has ever come to my door to discuss their beliefs with me. If I, a non-believer, can be respectful to the Christians who DO shove their beliefs down my throat then, surely, if you are not a savage, can do the same. You simply don’t want to. Perhaps that is why America is always at war. YOU, not a hijab wearing officer, are the problem in America! You have blanket respect for the police whose record of shooting unarmed people is abysmal yet you would ignore one in a hijab. Try that, you ‘pathetic clown’. That would be a take-down that I’d like to see. BTW in my country, policemen wear turbans if they are Sikh. But this is Canada. We don’t hate the way you do. Personally, I have no respect for an adult who can’t spell.

Critical Thinker

George above is merely sharing his OPINION, which may or may not include his own personal PREJUDICES. And, in the United States he is FREE to hold and share these OPINIONS, which in the broader sense, and by very definition are DISCRIMINATING. This does NOT mean he is a racist, bigot, or full of hate. Likewise, the mere lack of such outspoken opinions would not make him completely benevolent. The way you are holding a personal judgement on him for having these views mirrors the way he discriminately forms an opinion on how cops should or should not alter their uniforms. You just simply do not like it.

Furthermore, I consider myself a tolerant person. Not because I fall in line with liberals/progressives who preach tolerance (and who ironically are becoming more forceful, and less tolerant in their approach), but because I try to keep love & grace front and center. When it comes down to it, I would gladly reach out to ANYONE to help them in a time of need… that includes Muslims, atheists, gays, blacks, or any other demographic which may be perceived as oppressed by anyone else. I mean it. And, I believe George would too. That is what really matters. Being offended by how someone’s personal views aren’t aligned with your version of tolerance, not so much.

Loren James

Whoa, critical thinker, how does one seriously think you know anything about tolerance when you defend a bigot ?You might as well shorten your comments because you don’t make sense. A whole lot of words defending discrimination and then inserting your ‘front and center love and grace’. Just doesn’t work, buddy.

Critical Thinker

It works because I believe in a concept that is part of the very fabric of this nation… Liberty. Thus, I accept George’s discriminating opinions as much as I accept yours.

Jetski Fisher

why give in to these vermin. you wear the regulated clothing, dont like it get lost

Santa Claws

I would never approach a copper that looks like a letter box. In fact I wouldn’t acknowledge a moslem as having any authority over me much like moslems don’t acknowledge western laws having authority over them.

Bobby Lee Smith

It’s called a UNIFORM for a reason. Officers should appear uniformed in clothing and reactions to law and policy. Hijab is a choice and not mandated by religion. People should not know or care the religion of the officer when they call 911.

Vince Fostersghost

I bet the libtards in Minnehopeless wouldn’t like it if a police woman wore a crucifix.

Libtard hypocrisy knows no bounds. The people that screeched in hysterical fear over the “religious right” are the same ones lauding the Islamization of America.

Rezonator

Why are we celebrating a symbol or religious oppression toward women?

Lesa Smith Prye

This is getting way out of hand! A Christian refuses to issue marriage to same sex couples and she goes to jail but a Muslim becomes a cop and wears her garb and its acceptable!? That my friend is what is wrong with America today!

The Philosopher

How dare you disrespect such a pure religion as the muslim? stupid cunt.

Ronald Parker

She is a cop.She has the kill or let live authority,yet she covers her head pay homage to a stupid man somewhere..can’t respect that at all.She needs to take control of her life if she wants to be a leader.

Mary

So I notice in this article a non family male touching her. Why could they not use a high ranking female? It seems out of place in this article of inclusion.

Michael Burmeister

“The hijab is her choice”…and the other one is death.

Randall

WOW she is Breathtakingly Beautiful !!

Clyde

I recommend you make an appointment for a vision examine.

Joe Michael Stonebraker

Cool, how?

Dominic

Disgusting,Islam is a perversion of religion and should NOT be given special rights.Just as a cancer will kill the body so will the Islamic tumor kill our society .!!!!!

Kevin Harrison

Just one more way of them destroying us from the inside out.

Cindi Manning Hillen

This is getting more creepy every day. Scares the crap out of me. Muslims are taking over our country.

Ty Dralle

I see a BIG problem with this….and it has absolutely NOTHING to do with religion. Ever wonder why cops wear clip on ties, or why firefighters don’t have shit hanging around their neck? It’s a SAFETY issue. That piece of fabric around her head will be an undue burden and cause safety issues daily

fntsmk

She will undoubtedly be killed by muslim men. Without a doubt. It’s not Christians you have to worry about Hana Challouki… It’s YOUR OWN PEOPLE and YOUR OWN “religion.” And you know that. So you’re either in denial about the utter evil that is “islam,” or you are part of the “caliphate.”

Justine Kingmaker

Critical Acclimation: What an oxymoron though. She wears a hijab out of respect for her religion that dictates women cover themselves out of modesty but then she’s wearing eyeliner and falsies. ??? Am I missing something?

plumberskid

We’ll see how “cool” she is when some perp twice her size uses that hijab to strangle her to death. Not being racist, just being a realist.

Bloodeagle

That salute tho, bahahaha. Can’t even do that right.

Mike

please teach her how to render a proper salute !!!!

trixy

I pray that she doesn’t get strangled by that scarf by some killer. She should not be allowed to wear it. I welcome her. But think it’s wrong ,

Clyde

She claims to be an American but owes her allegiance to pedophile who claimed to be a prophet. Not my kind of cop at all.

Fen

Your “diversity” doesn’t enthrall me. I much preferred the homogeneity of my own culture and people and the separation of groups that kept everyone truly diverse for thousands of years on this planet. The melting pot is crap.

futenma

What a pretty young lady! Her fake eyelashes could use a bit of adjustment though.

Brad Prose

When can we see the first cop with a mohawk?

Bryan Campbell

NO and HELL NO. We don’t need any Muslims in any government or law enforcement posts….they are EVIL and our enemy

Douglas Jones

I pray for her safety and hope that she’s treated with respect!

Frank

What a joke. Take the garb off and play ninja when you’re not at work. When she gets strangled with her garb, she will change her tune…

Impy The Painter

Very cool!

aviva1

Awesome. She’s gorgeous, and I’m sure pretty fierce. I am for more Muslim women declaring their independence, all women. As for the article, it is not the public who is holding back Muslim women, it is their own society and culture.

Deryck Stephen Shewchuk

nothing wrong with that.. the burka and niqab are whats causing a stir in Canada. if you come here you should uncover your face for for taking your oath of citizenship .

Rob Foley

The ENTIRE purpose of the head covering is to modestly avoid looking attractive and sexy.
Yet the lipstick , eyeliner and the other 2 lbs of makeup are completely for the purpose of looking attractive and sexy
WTF kind of twisted logic says you do both ?

Shatha Najjar

Corruption Police

Tom Allison

I wish you the best. I hope it works out for you and the folks that pay your salary…..

Tempest

We dealt with this issue in Canada in the 80’s. We had an RCMP officer of the Sikh faith that by religious edict was obliged to wear a turban. There was much fuss and it eventually turned into a non issue. I would be ok with it if it is an obligation of this woman’s faith. I don’t think that a hijab is an article of faith so I’m reluctantly against it because of the precedent that it sets.

Rickie elliott

Gee, the presence of a muslim with a gun makes me want a safe zone.

Stuart Duncan

its all going to go swimmingly until she or another muslim walks into a crowd and starts emptying her pistol into the soft underbelly of america

ChrisGu

Stuart Duncan is a fraudulent Canadian.

Jimmy_Russells

So she’s “cool” because she believes in fairy tales that were written by iron age peasants? Sounds more like she’s delusional and ignorant.

GerryWAG

Not impressed. A uniform is exactly that, uniform.

GlocKittyXe

our country will pay the price for this. first it’s one then then they will demand more then they will demand no christians.

Not cool at all ..This will obviously result in epic failure, the religious limitations and restrictions will ultimately prevent her from performing her duties.

Police face challenges and demands on a daily basis and have to be prepared to enter any enviroment they’re called to, from bar to a butcher shop ..abstaining and demanding exemptions don’t apply when people are depending on you to step-up and protect them.

John McMickle

That looks dangerous. There is a reason law enforcement wear clip on ties. In a fight that headdress could get her killed.

Dick Silk

Exactly! Then, when she is compromised, so too are her weapons, cuffs, ammo, radio, body cam, vehicle, coworkers, etc. It is clearly a security point of failure.

Rocki

Fuk it just give all muslims guns

Dick Silk

As a rule, if the material concept did not exist in Muhammad’s time, then it is forbidden. Knives are the preferred weapons of jihadists. Every time you see an obscure stabbing report on the news these days, it is a *safe bet* that a Muslim is involved, although the somewhat more *moderate* Muslims do seem to prefer pipe bombs, etc.

Rob ONeill

I hope she gets her ass kicked by some lunatic Moslem. Not bad, just bad enough to wake her stupid, (I can do anything a man can do), ass up! She has NO PLACE on a police force. Anything she can do, many thousands of men can do much better. She’s taking a job that rightfully is best served by a man. Our country has gone NUTS. End the Left. End it! And I mean END IT FOR GOOD!!! Let’s salvage what’s left of our national sanity.

Rob ONeill

Inviting Moslems into our country is like poisoning our own drinking water. So very many of them are radicalized. The average, undereducated, Moslem has the reasoning powers of a 15 year old. They add NOTHING but trouble and more welfare payments to our nation. But we’re not going to wake up until a dirty bomb goes off in Manhattan. Even then, the lunatic Left will be insisting that this is somehow our own fault and Islam is a religion of peace. I can only hope that when the dirty bomb goes off that it only kills Liberals. It’ll be their fault if it does, so may it murder only them.

Alyson Lloyd

GET HELP BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE.

Courtney Saint Alexander Ellis

I hope she’ll make a fine officer!! Good luck officer Mohammed, and stay safe!!

Bill Blackstone

Making history because she wears a scarf.
Really? WTF.

Red white and fucking blue

Fuck all the jihad wearing fuckers! Fuck Minnesota police Dept too!

Dick Silk

TOTALLY UNCOOL! If she cannot wear the approved uniform of the authorizing service, then she is UNFIT for that position.

Alyson Lloyd

You are the ONLY unfit one.

Dick Silk

Then I guess that makes me uniquely qualified to pass judgment. 🙂

Wendi

Ya,now she’s moving up so she can help intergate sheria law in to our goverment just keep putting theses demonic pigs in,an one of these days ladies she will be in place to beat or murder you for not obeying their law.what fools you libreals are,they will murder you as well,after you’ve missed their butts.

tx2stpr

Those people with narrow-minded views are the males in the muslim communities.

Cindy

Just curious , officers try to choose areas to work that suit their time and lifestyle, many avoid the danger of high crime areas and will take lower paying jobs with rural departments…… Will she work in a town like Dearborn? Will she work in a No Go Zone? Is her oath to Muhammad and Sharia or reformed Islam and the US Constitution…..This could very well be serious decisions for her life

7LibertyForAll

Not “cool” at all. This is America. If people want to dress up in garbage bags they should return to THEIR own countries, not infect ours with their godless tripe and violence.