the future of religion, part 2 - Islamised Europe or a European Islam

Personally I’m not convinced that either is inevitable because I’m not convinced that even Islam can stop the steamroller progress of the death cult of secular liberalism.

I also fear that a European Islam might be a bit like modern Christianity - in other words basically secular liberalism with a few quasi-religious trappings. Of course Islam does lack some of Christianity’s worst weaknesses, such as the masochistic turn the other cheek stuff and the cult of hugs and feelings. Islam might be better able to resist the feminising tendencies.

What it comes down to is a religion’s ability to fight off the poison of feminism, and it’s an insidious and deadly poison indeed.

A European Islam, or even an Islamised Europe, would certainly be preferable to the sewer that liberalism has in store for us.

I should make the point (and this applies to my previous post as well) that these speculations about the religious future of society do not represent the future I would like to see. The future I would like to see is a return to something very like the pre-Reformation unity of Christendom, and something very like pre-Reformation Christianity. Unfortunately I don’t think that’s going to happen.

Of the futures that are actually likely to happen, or are at least possible, most are rather unpalatable. The religious fascism I speculated about in my previous post and a Europeanised Islam are not the futures one would have hoped for. It’s a matter of choosing the least worst option. Secular liberalism offers a never-ending descent into degeneracy and decadence and despair. Any alternative would be better than that.

Feminism is frankly a small concern compared to Islam. That anti-religion is a curse of the uttermost evil which will not be 'secularised' by anything. Even in Muslim countries where the larger part of the population is barely 'devout' the climate of fear extends down to the family and the hated next door neighbours. Hatreds rule. Muslims hate. They hate one another with the venom decreed for the infidel.

Yes, Islam would 'cure' feminism. It would crush it, along with any western influences, banal, benign, atheistic and 'liberal'.

Decry the 'turn the other cheek' all you may. Barely any in the west practice such 'masochism' as you dub it. Much of Europe will decend into civil war of a quite un-controlled sort. There will not be two or three counter-groups slugging it out for dominance and political power. It will be one - Islam. The opponents will be broad and unconnected. Chaos.

Western christianity was diluted to ruin by protestantism. It has been downhill since. The French Revolution; the World Wars started by atheists; the next will be Islamic. Christianity will drop back far further than 'pre-reformation. It will be back to Monasteries on the fringes and tiny islands.