Men's Rights Activists respond to the Elliot Rodger murders with a hearty "Nothing to see here! Move along!"

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If anyone was hoping – against their better judgement – that Men’s Rights activists would be inspired by the tragedy in Isla Vista to reconsider any of their beliefs, or even to reflect for a moment on the many striking similarities between passages in Elliot Rodger’s book-length manifesto and comments posted every day by MRAs and others in the manosphere, well, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you should not keep that hope alive.

It’s not that they’re not talking about the tragedy. A look through the top 100 posts in the Men’s Rights subreddit, the largest Men’s Rights forum online, reveals that roughly a third of them, including the top stickied post, relate in some way to Elliot Rodger’s rampage and the discussions that have come up online and in the media in its aftermath.

But the message of virtually all of these posts is: “Nothing to see here! Move along!” There are numerous posts expressing outrage that anyone would see any connection between Rodger’s toxic misogyny to the Men’s Rights movement; there are others mocking and attacking the #YesAllWomen hashtag; there’s even one suggesting that Rodger, who wrote about how he longed to watch all the women of the world starve to death in concentration camps, wasn’t actually a misogynist at all.

Sorry to break it to you, fella, but that’s not how defamation suits work. If it were, all of us who call ourselves feminists would be collecting millions of dollars from the Men’s Rights subreddit for all the patently untrue things you guys say about us every day of every week.

Still others make sure that everyone knows that Rodger hated men too – not that this has actually gone unnoticed in the media or in discussions of the tragedy.

And then there’s this fellow, who seems to think that Rodger only hated men, and that his big problem with women was that he loved them too much:

There are, it’s true, two posts that raise the issue of what might be done to prevent tragedies like this from happening in the future. One of them takes on the issue of “virgin shaming.” (Sure, I’m against that, and against slut shaming too. Odd that roughly 100% of the virgin shaming I’ve ever heard in my life has come from MRAs and other non-fans of this blog, even though — sorry to break it to you fellows — I’ve not been a virgin since the early Reagan administration.)

Meanwhile, the other “positive” suggestion — the stickied top post, submitted by one of the forum’s moderators — is pretty transparently intended as a PR move – and an excuse to bash feminists.

Yep, “creep shaming.” That’s the problem! Way to cut through all the bullshit and get to the heart of the matter! The problem isn’t that some men — well, a lot of men — think and act in predatory and entitled ways towards women. The problem is that sometimes when they do, women call them “creeps.”

The problem isn’t that the world’s creepiest and most entitled man just killed 6 innocent people, the problem is “creep shaming.”

After killing his roommates and a friend of theirs, Rodger attempted to get inside a sorority so he could massacre the women inside it. But he couldn’t get anyone to let him in. Probably because, well, whoever was nearest the door thought he looked a bit, well, creepy.

“Creep-shaming” isn’t some insidious form of discrimination against awkward men. It’s a defense mechanism that women develop to protect them against predatory men. And in the case of the Isla Vista murders, I’m guessing that the willingness of women to go with their gut sense that Rodger was a creep literally saved lives.

But the mods of the Men’s Rights subreddit would rather moan about “creep shaming.” They would prefer that women lower their defenses against men like Elliot Rodger — because it hurts their feelings to sometimes get called a “creep.”

Guys, this is why people think Elliot Rodger was an MRA.

EDIT: I added more to the conclusion because I had more to say about creep shaming.

Yeah, it’s funny. You posted that link, smugly, thinking that people, everyday people, ask for restraining orders for shits and giggles.
I gotta ask — how many people placed a restaining order on you? You can’t even stay out of this site, no matter how many times people asked you to leave. Boundary issues are obviously a big problem with you. But OK, it’s cool. I get you now. You’re used to forcing yourself on people. You keep going on how you shouldn’t be forced to interact with certain people — but that’s just a coping mechanism. You’re are what you hate the most.

It doesn’t matter whether or not you are a sock Davis. You used slurs. Look in the comments policy. That’s a bannable offense. If you come back you will be banned as soon as we get a whiff of sock. The Terminator you ain’t. No one is scared of you.

I’m still not sure why you want to come back. Don’t you want to avoid people who dislike you?

Oh, damn, you guys, he’s going to come back and make shit up and call us names and not pull his head out of his ass. We’re so scared.

You said you’re 38? Time to grow up fast. And of course Shiraz insulted you, you’re ridiculous. Also, I think several other people have insulted you too, you’re a little fixated. Which is a little creepy.

I’m perfectly healthy, Davis. But thank you so much for showing your ass.

You’re a stalker. We all know it. And I’m sure you’ve been called a stalker in real life too. That link you posted, you just didn’t happen to memorize it randomly, did you? No. Someome accussed you of stalking in real life and you went online and grabbed anything that might help your case, right?

Yeah.

Goodnight regulars. As usual, it’s been a pleasure posting with all of you.

OK Davis, I’ve been reading your comments about your solution. Now, when you say you cut women out of your life because they don’t want you or want to be around you, are you speaking in a purely sexualrelationship sense? Have you ever tried to get to know or befriend women beyond their potential for sexytimes? Do you see any value to the company of women beyond that? Do you have guy friends?

So, Davis, you’ve admitted you’re just a sock. If you’re going your own way, go. Otherwise you’re also admitting that you have nothing better to do than insult the women (and the people who support them) that you insist you don’t care about?

I stopped wanting to be friends with women since 2007, because they pretend to like me in order to get money out of me. If a woman was able to be upfront and treat me like a real friend, then I would not have issues with them.

* lying about identity
* “b*tches” and “wh*res”
* calling people “son”
* “UR ALL AFRAID”
* hates on MRAs/PUAs, is the same as them
* poor spelling & grammar
* on at apprx the same time of day
* low melting point
* “U DON’T CONTROL MEEEE I AM SUPREEEEME”
* standing in the punch bowl, yelling

I’m so confused as to why a fine young man like Davis can’t get a date. I mean, he’s so charming! And eloquent! Combine the rhetorical skills of Martin Luther King with the spiritual wisdom of the Dalai Lama and you’d still struggle to come up with a comment as romantic and enticing as “Hey AIDS bitch. I can post anywhere I want on the net”.

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