re: Democrats assure there will be no new gun legislation(Posted by joeytiger on 1/18/13 at 10:23 am to Strannix)

Marco Rubio on O'Reilly the other night said it best. Something along the lines of "if you want to amend the 2nd amendment, just be honest and have the personal courage and have conviction in your beliefs." If it trully is your desire to ban certain weapons and ammo, and infringe on the 2nd amendment then say that to the American public and see where the chips fall. Pussies, the lot of them.

re: Democrats assure there will be no new gun legislation(Posted by Vegas Bengal on 1/18/13 at 10:40 am to Strannix)

One difference between today's Dems in Congress vs the Reps is, the Dems don't put bills up for votes unless they have the votes. This isn't because it's a waste of money and time (b/c clearly no one in Congress cares about that) but it's just stupid to leave yourself open to attacks when you're only making your base happy. Nothing to gain.

Republicans pass bills they know will never pass the Senate like the Ryan budget or repeal of Obamacare. And for what purpose except to placate their base.

It's interesting how both parties switched right about the time Clinton was elected. Republicans used to pay lip service to their far right and now they can't make a move without them. Democrats used to be beholden to the far left and now only pay lip service.

And before anyone starts, if Dems actually were beholden to the far left, you'd see this bill pushed as well as repeal of DOMA. You'd have seen a far greater stimulus like Krugman advocated. You'd have seen the AG going after allegations of torture.

Instead they do things like extend the Bush tax cuts (except for the top 2%) which they claimed led to the huge deficits.

re: Democrats assure there will be no new gun legislation(Posted by hawkster on 1/18/13 at 11:08 am to dante)

quote:Dirty Mary will not touch this bill with an election on the horizon.

Her absolute worst nightmare is being the swing vote in the Senate, and having to decide between serving her overlords or maintaining her place at the trough. (pig reference intended). Of course, in the interest of maintaining a senate majority, the dems will do everything in their power to allow her to cast a meaningless conservative vote.

re: Democrats assure there will be no new gun legislation(Posted by BugAC on 1/18/13 at 11:18 am to Vegas Bengal)

quote:Republicans pass bills they know will never pass the Senate like the Ryan budget or repeal of Obamacare. And for what purpose except to placate their base.

Um actually, they were never brought up to vote in the Senate.

They at least did their best to try to repeal Obamacare. A bill that, only 18 days in, has proven to a) cause healthcare costs to increase and b) contains a multitude of bull shite earmarks that have nothing to do with healthcare, yet you still suck obama's dick as if this was the best bill ever enacted.