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According to Box Office Mojo, PM made nearly $45 million for the 3D release. I'd say dropping the release of the future films is a good sign for the direction the next lot are going to go. If Disney is willing to pass on tens of millions of dollars profit for no other reason than to try and not remind people of the prequels then let's hope that means the new direction is going to be in the opposite one.

The problem with both of these things is that they are born out of a desire to make a sequel/prequel, rather than born out of a pure idea or inspiration. You can always see the difference.

For this reason, the new Star Wars films are already off to a terrible start, before they're even written.

Yeah, I can agree with this.

However in regards to your other point the Prometheus script went through a number of fixes which changed the film from a true prequel to an ambiguous disaster. Abrams pal Lindelof funnily enough. It may not have had as much of a troubled inception as Alien 3 but it was definitely marred in bullshit. I don't think Ripley had the autonomy you claim.

As you say though, prequels/ sequels invite the 'design by committee' approach.

Khanivor wrote:
According to Box Office Mojo, PM made nearly $45 million for the 3D release. I'd say dropping the release of the future films is a good sign for the direction the next lot are going to go. If Disney is willing to pass on tens of millions of dollars profit for no other reason than to try and not remind people of the prequels then let's hope that means the new direction is going to be in the opposite one.

That's actually fairly savvy. They see potential in the future to make money as long as they don't dilute the enthusiasm for the franchise in the meantime.

Only diehard apologists can really defend the prequels, as time goes on they're harder to defend.

I stil remember going to see PM on the first day, my manager paid for a few of us to go. I remember it ending and me thinking 'what the fuck was this bullshit?` I really couldn't believe quite how terrible it was.

The problem with both of these things is that they are born out of a desire to make a sequel/prequel, rather than born out of a pure idea or inspiration. You can always see the difference.

For this reason, the new Star Wars films are already off to a terrible start, before they're even written.

Yeah, I can agree with this.

However in regards to your other point the Prometheus script went through a number of fixes which changed the film from a true prequel to an ambiguous disaster. Abrams pal Lindelof funnily enough. It may not have had as much of a troubled inception as Alien 3 but it was definitely marred in bullshit. I don't think Ripley had the autonomy you claim.

As you say though, prequels/ sequels invite the 'design by committee' approach.

My point is that even if Fincher hasn't been massively reigned in, it still may well have ended being a clusterfuck.

kalel wrote:
Alien 3's production saga goes well beyond the interference with Fincher. The script itself went though a stupid amount of versions and different people "fixing it".

Fincher may not have liked how he got dicked about, but I'm not convinced it was ever going to be this perfect sequel so many seem to think it could have been. Ridley Scott had a huge amount of autonomy over Prometheus and that turned out to be a mess as well, so not convinced a young David Fincher could have done any better.

The problem with both of these things is that they are born out of a desire to make a sequel/prequel, rather than born out of a pure idea or inspiration. You can always see the difference.

For this reason, the new Star Wars films are already off to a terrible start, before they're even written.

nickthegun wrote:
A yoda one would technically mean prequel which is shite but since he is 900 years old or whatever then it would potentially be so far removed from the OT as to not be a huge problem.

Yoda podracing \o/

I prefer him being a mystery, I hope we don't see planet yoda at least.

Aargh. wrote:
I prefer him being a mystery, I hope we don't see planet yoda at least.

Honestly, all of this stuff is better in our heads. That was the whole genius of the original Star Wars - talk of Clone Wars and other such mysterious just created a rich tapestry of events in our imaginations.