I mean, I didn't even know or give a **** about Dan Schneider or Harvey Weinstein... But Kevin Spacey... Man that really ****** me up. You never really expect such an iconic actor to be a ******* degenerate, I kinds forget that they are people as well.

And then it makes me think about that movie, American Beauty. The dude spends the movie getting in shape so he can **** his daughter's hot friend. The neighbor thinks Spacey is gay and is getting it on with his teenage son when he was actually mentoring him. And the whole gay and teenagers theme... Just all kind of makes sense now. That was such a great movie too.

No. He turned really PC in the last few years. Particularly because of his daughter. He started saying/doing really stupid left wing ****. You can tell in his newest specials, he's not even close to the comedy that we loved him for.

It bothers me that so many people are assuming Spacey is guilty. I'm not saying he's not, I'm just saying he's innocent until proven otherwise. Especially in an era where sexual assault allegations are sometimes used as a tool to destroy someone's career.

You're right, if he were actually guilty he'd be in jail already. But he also could've handle the situation a little better. Celebrities get accused of sex scandals all the time.

I still believe Michael Jackson is innocent for example. I know many would disagree because he downright slept with kids in his bed. But I believe he was telling the truth, he was robbed of his childhood and was clearly a bit insane and obsessed with being a child. The dude was likely misunderstood and the fact that he settled out of court makes people even more sure that hes guilty, but for some people its the only way out of the lawsuit. The allegations will cause you headaches forever.

But you gotta admit theres a lot of ***** stuff going on with Kevin Spacey, thats all im saying. He probably didnt do anything to Anthony Rapp, but thats not to say he wasnt attracted to him. Who knows.

There's something called "statute of limitations". Not to mention, even if the alleged sexual assault happened more recently, there'd still have to be an investigation. You don't just tweet that someone's a pedophile and they immediately get transported to prison. Do you understand literally anything about the legal system?

Dude the **** are you going on about? The accusation goes back decades ago and he hasn't even been sued yet despite being claimed to be a prolific sexual predator. I'm not saying the tweet is going to get him arrested for good. How the **** can you prove that Kevin ************* Spacey touched you innapropiately decades ago?

I'm saying if he were a rapist he wouldve likely gotten caught by now. It's not something easy to hide.

Not sexually assaulting 14 year old boys. The fact that its a "well, it coulda happened. You know what happens when I get drunk..." I've been drunk. Never have I thought "you know what I should do! I should sexually assault a minor!"

No, he can deny it. The burden of proof falls on the accuser, not the accused; if this discussion were held in a court of law, Spacey's lack of denial would be considered partial evidence. Not enough to convict, but if literally anyone were to come forward with any kind of evidence, no matter how real it actually is, Spacey couldn't claim it to be fake by his own admission that he doesn't know.

Instead of letting his lawyers handle the matter, he's trying to save face by dodging the question, while also coincidentally ensuring that he gets thrown in jail, barring any corruption shenanigans by the court.

he can absolutely deny it if he's innocent. The burden of proof is on the accuser, not on him. However the fact that he didn't deny it one bit can be seen as an admission. You can also say he has the decency to not deny something he did.

I've been explaining this kind of critical thinking to people and they look at me like I've got two heads. The fact his response is beyond the logic of most people is becoming of how simple the average schmuck is

No what you geniuses are doing is the same thing society does when some girl comes and accuses a guy of raping her and all of the nation comes down on the person and there's an obligatory trial cuz they send the guy to prison for forty years no matter what and then she goes yeah sorry I lied and felt bad about it sorry desu > n < and he gets set free but it don't matter cuz his life was stolen away
You've all gotten caught up in your memeing and have become what you all hate most (based on a perceived collective opinion on false rape allegations over the years)

The thought process behind what I originally said was to simply iterate that the community deciding to just meme him as if he's a pedophile un-ironically makes them just as bad as the people in the media etc. who start labeling... well ******* anyone who is accused of sexual misconduct in a "guilty till proven innocent" prejudice "You've all gotten caught up in your memeing and have become what you all hate most" was my main point... I don't delete things I type, even moot analogies that distract from what I'm saying because it better trains my mind to be clear and concise in actual dialogue

Actually he could just deny it and if they can't prove he did it, he can't be convicted of anything. The beauty of our justice system is that you are presumed innocent until proven otherwise. The burden of proof lies with the prosecution, always.

What kind of professional handles it the way he did?
Isn't it common ******* sense to exercise your Miranda Rights?
What kind of idiot puts out a statement that neither denies it nor verifies it without consulting their legal team?

When as many people come forward as they have for Kevin spacey there as to be some truth to it. If it was one okay innocent until proven guilty, but in this you have whole crews from movies saying they knew to stay away from spacey.

I'm not confirming his accusations of molesting a 14 year old boy. But since the scandal it has been revealed that this dude has quite the sex life. There's nothing wrong with being gay, but it's been confirmed that he had wild sex parties with 18 year old boys and has been into sex rehab. While not illegal, this makes the allegations seem more plausible.

Do I actually believe he molested Anthony Rapp? If it were confirmed I would've been outraged, but right now I'm just reserving my judgment and being surprised at the moment. Is it wrong to be surprised by these allegations?