The teacher should totally get his job back, provided it was adult porn, and not child porn or animal. Or gay porn. Unless it was two hot chicks going at it -- then he should TOTALLY get his job back, with back pay!

Has anyone considered that this is middle school and perhaps it was his students doing it on the sly and they found his undeleted cache? Or did someone walk in on "he and other teachers" - and what about those "other teachers"?

I'm a bit lost on this one. If he was just looking privately on his own I can't see the outrage at all. Tell him not to do that again and send him on his way. Now, maybe if he had connected up the computer to a projector in front of a full classroom and shouted LOOK AT THAT ONE KIDS, EVER SEE A FIST SHOVED THAT FAR IN BEFORE? then I could see it becoming a disciplinary issue.

If I am using a company or office-owned computer, I'm not going to look at pron. I can wait until I get home and its unprofessional. Based on the rather limited details, that just shows bad judgment whether you work at a school or at an office.

Putting aside the "let's think of the children", the guy probably deserves a reprimand. Other than that, getting fired or losing a license? That's sort of harsh.

Funny story, this guy was only caught because he showed the porn he was viewing at the time to a female co-worker. After she reported him, the district investigated because he was doing this on a school computer and on school property. The district found that a number of other employees were also viewing porn on district computers.

So, did the district fire everyone they caught? No, they didn't. They reprimanded the rest and just fired this guy. I guess sharing with the co-worker was the firing offense, not the use of district resources to view porn in the first place. So he gets his job back because what he did, in the view of the arbitrator and the courts, was not substantially different from what others, who did not get fired, did.

So the lesson of this story, if you are an employer, is to fire everyone and let God sort it out.

Well, that and make it a clear requirement of employment that no employee use district resources to view porn.

Too-Tall: Funny story, this guy was only caught because he showed the porn he was viewing at the time to a female co-worker. After she reported him, the district investigated because he was doing this on a school computer and on school property. The district found that a number of other employees were also viewing porn on district computers.

So, did the district fire everyone they caught? No, they didn't. They reprimanded the rest and just fired this guy. I guess sharing with the co-worker was the firing offense, not the use of district resources to view porn in the first place.

One of the possible issues is sexual harrasment. And I'm not familiar with Wisconsin laws but if it is similar to California laws and how Cal. courts have treated such situations, I could see a district firing this guy and not bothering with the other persons who just viewed such stuff on their computers.

In such a situation, the district or employer has to look like they took the complaint seriously otherwise they may share some liability in a subsequent suit.

Malepropism:Has anyone considered that this is middle school and perhaps it was his students doing it on the sly and they found his undeleted cache? Or did someone walk in on "he and other teachers" - and what about those "other teachers"?

If you want to read the full 40+ pages of the arbitration decision, here it is. It has all the details you could want (except for the actual porn).

Condensed version: Teacher's sister sent him inappropriate e-mails, which he viewed on school computer. Teacher showed one to another teacher (who had asked to see it) when no kids were around. Third teacher -- who had a grudge against e-mail recipient -- complained to administration. Administration checked all district e-mails, and found lots of teachers got inappropriate e-mails. Administration disciplined some, didn't discipline others. Only one was fired; the worst punishment anyone else got was a 15 day suspension. Union filed grievance because of disparate outcomes. Arbitrator decided the administration went overboard firing the teacher, and the courts have backed that decision.

/Did I mention the teacher was the union vice president?//More than enough stupidity to go around///This post complies with the Fark Appropriate Use Policy regarding slashies

Gordon Bennett:I'm a bit lost on this one. If he was just looking privately on his own I can't see the outrage at all. Tell him not to do that again and send him on his way. Now, maybe if he had connected up the computer to a projector in front of a full classroom and shouted LOOK AT THAT ONE KIDS, EVER SEE A FIST SHOVED THAT FAR IN BEFORE? then I could see it becoming a disciplinary issue.

On the other hand, it just might be incentive for them to straighten up and fly right.

Billy Liar:Teachers viewing porn on their computers at work....tsk tsk...Whatever happened to the good old days, when they'd actually READ "How to Pick Up Chicks" ?

The worst prof I ever had taught my World Religions class. I call him the worst because he was SO monotone and stiff and uninteresting. Plus he was very obviously hardcore Christian and slanted the discussions and schoolwork that direction.

Anyways, I ran into him in the Starbucks section at the Barnes and Nobel a while after taking his class and he was drinking coffee and reading three books on dating and meeting women. Good luck, sh*thead.

Gyrfalcon:If it keeps middle school teachers sane while teaching those hormonal murderbeasts laughingly called "students", then anything short of kiddie torture porn should be not only allowed, but encouraged.

Well, teachers can't hit the little bastards, so they might as well spank something.

Gyrfalcon:If it keeps middle school teachers sane while teaching those hormonal murderbeasts laughingly called "students", then anything short of kiddie torture porn should be not only allowed, but encouraged.

They are pre-hormonal still, some of them (thanx plastics), thankfully.

However, your remedy is suspect, so, you're not an actual teacher-informed person, then?

I had an art teacher in high school who was looking at porn right in the middle of class while we were all supposed to be drawing something or other. While his computer was hooked up to the big rolling cart tv. Which was turned on and facing the class. Stupid aide came in after ten or fifteen minutes of us not drawing a damn thing and quietly turned it off. Never heard anything about it after that, teacher was still there when I graduated afaik, so I guess everyone kept their mouths shut.

Writerly Redoubt:Gyrfalcon: If it keeps middle school teachers sane while teaching those hormonal murderbeasts laughingly called "students", then anything short of kiddie torture porn should be not only allowed, but encouraged.

They are pre-hormonal still, some of them (thanx plastics), thankfully.

However, your remedy is suspect, so, you're not an actual teacher-informed person, then?

Gyrfalcon:Writerly Redoubt: Gyrfalcon: If it keeps middle school teachers sane while teaching those hormonal murderbeasts laughingly called "students", then anything short of kiddie torture porn should be not only allowed, but encouraged.

They are pre-hormonal still, some of them (thanx plastics), thankfully.

However, your remedy is suspect, so, you're not an actual teacher-informed person, then?

Wheyfaring Stranger:Malepropism: Has anyone considered that this is middle school and perhaps it was his students doing it on the sly and they found his undeleted cache? Or did someone walk in on "he and other teachers" - and what about those "other teachers"?

If you want to read the full 40+ pages of the arbitration decision, here it is. It has all the details you could want (except for the actual porn

Anyone have the link to Gov Walker's web cache so we can all see what he's been looking at? I must assume he's provided full transparency and open access to all of his office's computers and communications since he's so eager to pass moral judgement on the email of others his must be out there for us to read, right?

Writerly Redoubt:Gyrfalcon: Writerly Redoubt: Gyrfalcon: If it keeps middle school teachers sane while teaching those hormonal murderbeasts laughingly called "students", then anything short of kiddie torture porn should be not only allowed, but encouraged.

They are pre-hormonal still, some of them (thanx plastics), thankfully.

However, your remedy is suspect, so, you're not an actual teacher-informed person, then?