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Originally posted by deadpeopleno, i have to say im not usually into this kind of game, but it looks alright. i never got into the rpg shooters asside from GoW. ill see about giving it a try tho. i might supprise myself. thanks for the tip

If you are referring to TSW, dont qualify it as a shooter. It plays just like a standard fantasy mmo, but rifles and shotguns replace bows and xbows

The setting is extremely dark, and the story and missions are very captaviting. The PVP leaves a lot to be desired as well, but the Dungeons are definitely a blast

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to anyone still reading... i hsould add, i like high quality meshes. i know thats usually achieved in the settings, but my computer can handle quite a bit, and theoretically theres no reason why an mmo cant use standard poly game meshes, as apposed to the rather standard mmo format wit honly 12-15 polys in the face

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Given the 90's art style obsession with darkity-dark-in-a-dark-cave games, I'm kind of surprised that one doesn't show up as a "where are they now" more often too.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

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Originally posted by deadpeopleto anyone still reading... i hsould add, i like high quality meshes. i know thats usually achieved in the settings, but my computer can handle quite a bit, and theoretically theres no reason why an mmo cant use standard poly game meshes, as apposed to the rather standard mmo format wit honly 12-15 polys in the face

I'm really not trying to push AoC because it has it's faults but even by today's standards from a purely graphical standpoint you will be hard pressed to find a better looking game if your system can handle it's extreme settings. The only other MMO I can think of that comes close is TSW but that's because it was built off the same engine.

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Originally posted by deadpeople

I like RPGs with low saturation, that stay in their era (kinda), like the witcher, dragon age, skyrim, etc. games that arent overly colorful except in the artwork. I just cant find any good MMOs that are the same!

I may affend people, but i cant play WOW, or RIFT, or even guild wars for my selfish reason. the bright colors and things are too fairy taily for me. it seems like for somthing that is rated teen, they geer it for 5 year olds. people say... NO NO, ItS A MATURE GAME! yet they talk about the cheezy "sword of truth", instead of it having a name and a purpose.

ya, im a bit picky. i have tried Shaiya, and loved it, but it got old, REALLY fast for me. and still some of the themes seemed a bit stupid to me. i like factions and guilds, but for gods sake (excuse the profanity if it affends anyone) why are there tanks and trikes in WOW?

i just want a game that seems like it was made by someone with any sence of history. sure the world has color, not that much. and sure they had machines, but people where executed for making them being told it was "witch craft", and these machines sure as hell where not tanks, let alone made of wood.

if anyone knows of a game i might try, shoot! and keepem coming, i dont need everyone to agree with what they think is the best option, if it fits, than please point it out for me, ill download a bunch and givem all a try.

thank you so much for reading, and im sorry if i sound totally anal about the subject

Fallen Earth would be top on my list and Lord of The Rings Online would also be near the top. They don't divert much if any from their setting they also have a solid community that is not overly huge. As both are hybrid MMO's you can check them out without having to fork over any cash and if you like it well you go from there and if you don't, well it's not like you lost anything other then sometime.

Another to look into is Age of Conan as it's come a along way and is shaping up nicely as an MMO.

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