I thought Condit had won, he was better int he standup for the most part, especially in the later 2 rounds, and he attacked off his back and defending the little Hendricks did on the ground after his takedowns.

the way the scoring works right now Johny was the winner, and even carlos agreed to this.

i would have given the fight to carlos too though, since Johny wasn't able todo anything with the takedowns, carlos probably even landed more from his back.

talking about a robbery is stupid though, since as stated above, even carlos acknowledged that he lost this due to the takedowns....and everyone knows that takedowns alone count quite a bit when it comes to scoring.

either way i'm very happy that Johny is able to fight GSP now, since he has been f---ed already with diaz getting the shot.

and oh what a big surprise the fight turned out like it was supposed to.....just like benson vs nate....at least nate did actually deserve the fight.

i like to see diaz fight and all....but giving him the shot wasn't fair (who cares right ?) and we learned nothing new.....at least johny has a realistic chance and isn't completly f---ed stylistically. listening to diaz talk about how bad his preparation was, ranting about wrestlers and NOT "trying not make excuses" @ the post fight presser didn't help much either.

Diaz postfightpresser summed:Lost the fight because his team wasn't available for the biggest fight of his life.Lost the fight because of a one-hour time zone difference.Lost the fight because the refs don't yell at the fighters like PRIDE.Doesn't think Hendricks won. Doesn't think GSP beat Condit. Doesn't think GSP has punching power.Thinks GSP put something in his hand wraps to cut him. Wants to retire.Wants to rematch GSP.Wants to fight Anderson Silva.Never gets vacation.Hated taking a year off for suspension.Doesn't pay taxes.

Diaz postfightpresser summed:Lost the fight because his team wasn't available for the biggest fight of his life.Lost the fight because of a one-hour time zone difference.Lost the fight because the refs don't yell at the fighters like PRIDE.Doesn't think Hendricks won. Doesn't think GSP beat Condit. Doesn't think GSP has punching power.Thinks GSP put something in his hand wraps to cut him. Wants to retire.Wants to rematch GSP.Wants to fight Anderson Silva.Never gets vacation.Hated taking a year off for suspension.Doesn't pay taxes.

Funny because he didn't say he lost the fight due to anything. It's stating what he wish he did differently. He even said multiple times he wasn't trying to make excuses.

Also, regarding the hand wrap, coincidentally he dropped it because he "didn't want to accuse him of anything"

1. I can't believe some of you guys think women don't belong on a UFC ppv, yet sat thru 15 minutes of that steaming pile of dung known as Camozzi vs Ring. That was awful. Tate/Zingano would have been much more deserving.

2. Nate needs to change his nickname to 'mediocre'. Very impressive win by Ellenberger. I still don't see him getting by the top guys, but he's looking good. Would like to see him fight Condit next.

3. Big Rigg won. Not controversial in the least. The left was landing at will and he controlled the TDs in rounds 1 & 2. Condit wkn the 3rd, but last time I checked 2>1

4. I imagined the main event would go exactly like it did. But something inside me hoped a,fight would break out and we wouldn't be subjected to another 25 minutes of GSP giving someone carpet burn. I was wrong. Georges jab looked great, Nicks didn't. I thought GSP gassed in the 3rd because Nick was starting to stuff some takedowns. Very smart game planning by GSP, but also one of the reasons I refuse to pay for a ppv he's headlinibg.

5. Last night confirmed for me that GSP would get absutely wrecked by Silva. I think thats why Geirges HOPES Weidman will knock him off. So he doesn't have to fight him.

6. If Big Rigg can focus on his conditioning I think he has a real shot at beating GSP

While this thread looks like it's about GSP and Diaz, it's really not. It's about us.

After last night's main event concluded, I felt more than a bit privileged. I just watched two of the best welterweights of all time fight for 25 minutes. I saw two elite athletes engage in a very heady and tactical matchup.

I saw a guy with arguably the best hands in the division, who almost always, even if he's slow to start (or his opponents can still keep up the pace) , outstrikes everyone he's fought, not be able to do that. I saw the greatest welterweight champion get the better of this boxing master, striking from outside the boxer's range, using angles and a stiff jab to nullify one of Diaz's greatest strengths.

When it hit the ground, I didn't see lay'n' pray. I saw a great wrestler work his *** off trying to nail down the human equivalent of a bowl of jello. Diaz's groundwork was non-stop transitions, movement, escape attempts and counters. Unlike almost everyone of GSP's other oppon ents, I saw someone give him problems on the ground. There were very few times Georges could posture up and rain down elbows and GnP. Nick's ground defense is that good.

By the 3rd round, it was evident that Diaz's cardio is not just superhuman, but damned near god like. GSP was working hard to beat Nick - harder than anyone else has ever made him work. But that Champ didn't wilt or give up. Even when Diaz started stuffing TDs.

There was no mental weakness by either fighter. No wavering, no doubt. Grit, determination and fortitude.

And yet, from a notable portion of people I'm hearing some pretty mindless stuff. Comments that have everything to do with people's proclivity for finding fault and elevating that to a personal reality - such that it misses what's actually happening in front of them.

I mean, basically because it wasn't a glaring mismatch and someone had clearly no business being in there, some people are acting like this was a travesty. That because this was a hugely technical and cerebral fight it's somehow less than another result.

Stop being whiny negative nattering nabobs and look for what went well for each guy in the fight. Be impressed with what each guy was clearly doing well with. Trust me, when you break it down move by move and position to position, this was a chess match with fists and feet - a marvel of fighting prowess.

And this isn't everyone who wasn't impressed by last night's fight. Tastes and preferences vary and this may not have been someone else's cup of tea and that's perfectly acceptable. In addition to the good and the ridiculous, I've also heard some criticisms that have some merit, too - I'm not saying this was a perfect fight by any means. But there's a chasm between being disappointed or unimpressed and comparing either fighter as anything other than elite.

To my mind, anyone who characterizes these guys as weak, chumps, undeserving or any other of the utterly constipated piles of ant s--- people are passing off have literally lost any semblance of a rational perspective.