I'd like this better if they hadn't re-signed Adams. Not to say I don't like Adams and what he brings for the amount of money he makes, but Kobasew would have been a viable replacement in my eyes back at the start of free agency.

shmenguin wrote:in the category of "i know we don't NEED offense, but this is still depressing"...

in the 2011-2012 season, if you take our bottom 6 forwards (cooke, staal, tk, adams, asham, park) and extrapolate all of their individual points out to 82 games, they end up with: 209 total pointsif you take the 2012-2013 numbers for sutter, 2 out of 3 of jeffery/kobasew/d'agostini (they're all pretty similar), adams, glass and vitale and extrapolate all of their individual points out to 82 games, they end up with: [b]103 total that's an unbelievable drop - even considering that we HAD to let staal go.

You'll never get over this staal thing

depends on what happens with pouliot.

but for the bazillionth time, i understand that staal wasn't re-signing here after his contract ran out no matter what. this disparity, however, goes beyond just losing a good center.

I guess I can't blame you, I don't think I can ever forgive Shero for bringing back Adams and Dupuis for what seems like eternity.

wondermoose wrote:I'd like this better if they hadn't re-signed Adams. Not to say I don't like Adams and what he brings for the amount of money he makes, but Kobasew would have been a viable replacement in my eyes back at the start of free agency.

wondermoose wrote:I'd like this better if they hadn't re-signed Adams. Not to say I don't like Adams and what he brings for the amount of money he makes, but Kobasew would have been a viable replacement in my eyes back at the start of free agency.

But this way you have both? The choice isn't one or the other.

Considering the Pens are so tight against the cap, I see this potential contract as redundant (although Kobasew can actually pitch in offensively). It doesn't really make a big impact regardless, as the contract would be minimum.

He's basically scored at a 20 point pace each of the past 4 years. Not bad, considering he appears to have been playing mostly 4th line minutes. I haven't seen him play in that time, but my question would be, if he can't crack the top 9 on a bad Colorado team, how is he going to do that here? And if he's not, do the Pens need another 4th liner?

netwolf wrote:He's basically scored at a 20 point pace each of the past 4 years. Not bad, considering he appears to have been playing mostly 4th line minutes. I haven't seen him play in that time, but my question would be, if he can't crack the top 9 on a bad Colorado team, how is he going to do that here? And if he's not, do the Pens need another 4th liner?

Could be Colorado has too many guys like Kobasew and would rather invest in the future? It would be the opposite of the Penguins somehow managing to fall into Connor McDavid (except nobody wants Kobasew )

wondermoose wrote:I'd like this better if they hadn't re-signed Adams. Not to say I don't like Adams and what he brings for the amount of money he makes, but Kobasew would have been a viable replacement in my eyes back at the start of free agency.