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Rookies Already Working At One Buc Palace

No waiting around until the start of the Bucs’ rookie minicamp on Friday for the new drafted rookie Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

The draft picks are in the house and on the field, minus tight end Austin Seferian-Jenkins.

That was the word today from Bucs starting quarterback Josh McCown. He addressed Joe and reporters after morning workouts.

“It was a good day today. Good working with them and getting to see them move,” McCown said. “And, the tight end’s not in town yet, but the other young guys were out there obviously, seeing them run and catch for the first time, being able to work with them, is good. Because you start to kind of gauge and you see, you know, why you picked guys in the spots you picked them.”

Thanks to the NFL pushing the draft back two weeks, the learning window for rookies is tighter than ever. But Joe finds that somewhat overblown, considering lots of rookies were very successful in the lockout shortened 2011 season, when rookies basically jumped right into training camp.

Joe found it pretty cool that the draft picks are already knee deep in all things Bucs. Imagine being drafted Saturday afternoon and reporting to work in another state Monday night with a mountain of stuff to learn.

’87, you make a good point, I don’t know that we will be throwing deep too much. Its the run game that is the primary concern – especially with this group. If this {pass blocking} line can establish a decent ground game, we’re good. If not, could be a huge problem.

Just read that the Eagles might cut Brandon Graham. I remember wanting him in the draft a few years ago. Wonder if Lovie/Licht take a chance on him if he is released. Suppose to be a much better fit in a 4-3.

Greg Auman learned from Josh McCown that Bucs rookie TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins hasn’t yet arrived in Tampa. Most rookies got here Sunday. Just when my mind started to recall former UW Bucs TE Jeramy Stevens, Auman later reported that Seferian-Jenkins was not in Tampa per NFL rules because Washington spring quarter was still in session. He will attend rookie minicamp. Whew!

What difference does it matter if you can pop off the top of a defense. He still lead the league in yards per catch and that includes the Desean Jackson of the world. Oh and the “possession” receiver is still commanding double teams. Now you have two of those. I don’t the see the problem.

He is a guy I had hopes for in previous years, but he never took advantage of the opportunities he was given. These guys need to realize that they only get so many chances, so they have tovdominate when they come along.

When was the last time u saw a buccaneers wr make a catch get a step on the defense and take it to the house consistently? Im not dissing the talents of jackson or evans im not dismissing the skills they bring to the table. All im saying is we have to have that quick strike capability lets hope that simms is THAT guy

Speed does not always equate to production. VJax is very productive however. You want production. So what if Desean Jackson can catch a 5 yard slant and run for 20 additional yards. Then you have Vjax catch a 20 yard pass and run for an additional 5 yrds. What is the difference? Its still a 25 yard gain for your offense. It doesn’t matter how you get the yards as long as you get them. And Vjax has been one of the best at getting those yards and stats and pro bowls says so. Sorry if this is confusing to you.

I remember the eagles game last year. I remember how all that speed on offense continued to put our defebse back on our heels. Again i didnt say jackson or evans were garbage i juzt said we need someone with serious speed. Not instead of but in addition too

Ive seen jackson get caught from behind more than ive seen him run away from people. Again its a want for speed in addition to the guys we gave. Speed hurts the defense before the balls even hiked. It the fear factor

Of course speed matters…but pure speed is not the ONLY thing that matters. I don’t know if it’s even the MOST IMPORTANT thing that matters! Jerry Rice is the greatest WR of all time…and he was a 4.5-4.6 guy…nowhere near the speediest receiver of all time! No where near the biggest WR either…but he was a hell of a route runner, quick in and out of his breaks, had great hands and great vision! VJax and Mike Evans are plenty fast enough to break a long TD! But they are also big enough to go up and get a high ball and come down with it! They are big enough to box out a DB and have a clear path to the ball and move the chains on third down! They both have long enough arms to snare a ball that other smaller receivers would never be able to reach! So yeah, speed is good…but in these days of over 6foot tall DB’s, speed can’t be the only thing you look for in a WR!

Concerning value over the 40 yard dash. It measures the time of the last 20 yards in a 40 yard dash, and according to the niners, is the metric that really measures SEPARATION SPEED. Jerry Rice, while running a sub-par 40, actually had one of the fastest recorded flying 20s.

What we need is a QB that can hit WRs in stride so they have opportunity to gain yards after the catch. Glennon didn’t do that regularly, and its why we have McCown. Speed helps, but YAC is more about throw accuracy.

all Mcown has to do is what he did in Chicago and we are all fucking prefect guys!!!! Perfect, im telling you. We have the twin towers now, a Tony Gonzales/ Jimmy Grahm look alike and we have doug martin and our new running back with hands on the ground! Look out Tampa might actually have an offense

There’s other elements at play as well, and after watching Mike Evans against the press-I’m somewhat concerned (And a strong counter point to the flying 20) -“That sparked a thought from Scott Pioli about how challenging it is to project receivers from college to the NFL because of press coverage.”

“I love the ‘flying 20’ too, which is something we looked at. And also the first 10 [yards]. But there are other elements that come into it that can blow both of those things up, unfortunately, which is certain receivers who have never faced press coverage. It doesn’t matter how fast they run, their playing speed, they can’t get off the line of scrimmage.

So there is this other element that comes in. The other thing is that a big part of separation has to do with just close-space quickness and/or strength. … The Wes Welkers, the Troy Browns, the Wayne Chrebets, the smaller, undersized guys who have some short-area quickness where they’re covered like a blanket but, ‘boom!’ – all of a sudden they can create separation. Trying to piece all that together, that’s the fun part.”

Evans and Jackson the twin towers are getting all the print now, but the Bucs also have a speed burner that is an eighth of an inch taller than both towers who ran a 4.36 (official 4.40) in the 2012 combine. That would be “Touchdown” Tommy Streeter from the U. This kid can ball. He is immature and needs mentoring to get his head on straight. Can you imagine if we can coach this guy up? A 3 prong valley of the giants. Hmmmmm!