A quality build is a build that has high str and dex, 27/40, 28/40 and 40/40 are the most used ones. You don't have to use weapons that scale with both str and dex, since you can use most of the weapons in the game, but a quality build gets the most out of those weapons.

EDIT. And the term "quality" comes from DeS, where there was a upgrade path with that name that increased scaling in both str and dex.

Two C's are generally worth more than one B scaling. Just compare the BSS's damage with base Str and 40 dex, and the SLSS at 40/40. It lets you use weapons that either have high requirements or balanced scaling, like the Claymore, Greatsword, Halberd, or Murakumo. It also makes weapons like Black Knight weapons shine, as well as Dex weapons that have mild Str scaling. Also, quality builds get a ton of versatility. You could have a heavy weapon in the first slot and a lighter one in the second without having to make one elemental. I'm a big fan of them because I love to play around with different weapon setups and options.

Ghadis_God wrote:Two C's are generally worth more than one B scaling. Just compare the BSS's damage with base Str and 40 dex, and the SLSS at 40/40. It lets you use weapons that either have high requirements or balanced scaling, like the Claymore, Greatsword, Halberd, or Murakumo. It also makes weapons like Black Knight weapons shine, as well as Dex weapons that have mild Str scaling. Also, quality builds get a ton of versatility. You could have a heavy weapon in the first slot and a lighter one in the second without having to make one elemental. I'm a big fan of them because I love to play around with different weapon setups and options.

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My most recent build is the first quality build I've ever made, and I absolutely love it. I'm the type who gets bored of being restricted to only a few weapons. This way, you can have a ton of weapon setups! I personally love having a backup Hand Axe +15 on the side, and this way you can use something quality scaling or dex scaling as a main weapon. Also my composite bow on my quality build has an AR of high 400's. It's absolutely amazing!

Quality builds are any build that focuses on a mixture of Str and Dex, usually 27/40, in order to maximize weapon potential and versitality. The term quality comes from Demon Souls upgrade path that converted and distributed scaling among the Str and Dex stat.

Quality builds usually sacrifice Vit due to the points required to max the 2 stats, but they have the most consistent damage outputs, capable of utilizing any and all weapons to their max potential. Due to this, quality builds have a unique arsenal of bows and Curved Swords, in addition to the arsenals of Str and Dex builds, allowing for complete adaptability in any situation.

The quality build suffers from losses to either vit or end (depending on the build) and is the only build that has a difficult time incorporating magic as an asset. Nonetheless, the quality build is feared for its overall power and versatilkty, but mocked for its frailty.

Seignar wrote:Quality builds are any build that focuses on a mixture of Str and Dex, usually 27/40, in order to maximize weapon potential and versitality. The term quality comes from Demon Souls upgrade path that converted and distributed scaling among the Str and Dex stat.

Quality builds usually sacrifice Vit due to the points required to max the 2 stats, but they have the most consistent damage outputs, capable of utilizing any and all weapons to their max potential. Due to this, quality builds have a unique arsenal of bows and Curved Swords, in addition to the arsenals of Str and Dex builds, allowing for complete adaptability in any situation.

The quality build suffers from losses to either vit or end (depending on the build) and is the only build that has a difficult time incorporating magic as an asset. Nonetheless, the quality build is feared for its overall power and versatilkty, but mocked for its frailty.

This is an excellent way to describe quality builds, +1 for you dude \o/!

The quality build suffers from losses to either vit or end (depending on the build) and is the only build that has a difficult time incorporating magic as an asset. Nonetheless, the quality build is feared for its overall power and versatilkty, but mocked for its frailty.

Depends on your SL Siegnar. I have a 125 Q build with 50 Vit and 40 End, as well as 40/40 Str/dex. It's one of the most solid, reliable builds I use in terms of survivability and stamina.

The quality build suffers from losses to either vit or end (depending on the build) and is the only build that has a difficult time incorporating magic as an asset. Nonetheless, the quality build is feared for its overall power and versatilkty, but mocked for its frailty.

Depends on your SL Siegnar. I have a 125 Q build with 50 Vit and 40 End, as well as 40/40 Str/dex. It's one of the most solid, reliable builds I use in terms of survivability and stamina.

passivefamiliar wrote:This thread makes me miss boletaria. The upgrade system in that was way better, in my opinion.

I was browsing the Xbox Dark Souls forum recently, and someone was complaining about how the upgrade system in Dark wasn't very clear. They should have played DeS....talk about cryptic. Remember how certain weapons had branching paths at odd numbers like +7, and if you went over, you kind of missed your chance to go that route? You could always strip the weapon, but nobody ever wanted to do that because some materials were so hard to find.

passivefamiliar wrote:This thread makes me miss boletaria. The upgrade system in that was way better, in my opinion.

I was browsing the Xbox Dark Souls forum recently, and someone was complaining about how the upgrade system in Dark wasn't very clear. They should have played DeS....talk about cryptic. Remember how certain weapons had branching paths at odd numbers like +7, and if you went over, you kind of missed your chance to go that route? You could always strip the weapon, but nobody ever wanted to do that because some materials were so hard to find.

That, and there's only one meltsone in the entire game! Unless there's more that I haven't found o.O.

You could always farm meltstones off flaming lizards. Their drop rate is somewhere equivalent to pure bladestone. Have fun!But continuing a bit off-topic, I really hated upgrade paths in Demon Souls. So costy, hard and a good amount were less than useful except for gimmicky invasions or hosting (Fatal Estoc + Hidden Soul; not many have experienced it, but oh boy, it's like fighting a ghost)

On topic, I do remember having a Q build with no drawbacks at SL120, but usually anywhere lower comes with a price. Even at SL120, many quality builds have difficult times adding in any high-level magic. So Q builds are the ultimate build optimized for melee in any situation, having arsenals going from spears to bows to axes to halberds to swords; most of the time having higher than average AR due to minor scalings like E.