Q: (L) Are the aliens using our emotions and energies?
A: Correct; and bodies too. Each earth year 10 percent more children
are taken.

Q: (L) Do they suffer? A: Some.

Q: (L) Do they all suffer?
A: Some. Bits of children’s organs removed while they are wide
awake. Kidneys first; then next feet; next jaw examined on table;
tongues cut off; bones stress tested; pressure placed on heart
muscle until it bursts.

Q: (L) Why are you telling us this awful
stuff? A: You must know what the consortium is doing. This is done mostly
to Indian children.

Q: (L) Why are things like this being done?
A: There is a big effort on behalf of Orions and their human
brethren to create a new race and control it as well as the rest of
humanity.

Q: (L) What happens to the souls? Is this project physical
only? A: Physical and souls recycled.

Q: (L) Where do the souls go?
A: Back here for the most part.

Q: (L) Do some go elsewhere?
A: Some go to other planets.

Q: (L) Who is responsible for this project?
A: Consortium.

Q: (L) This is sick! A: Sick is subjective.

Q: (L) But this whole thing is so awful. A: We understand your feelings, but all does not conform to your
perspective.

We had drawn several Reiki symbols and placed them under the board
and were quietly pronouncing the names of the symbols which were
purported to ‘increase power’ and act as an ‘ether tube connector.’
Three very loud and close thunderclaps were heard directly above the
house which caused the building to shake.

We jumped up, ran outside
to see if there was a storm nearby, but no clouds were in the sky at
that time. We returned to the table and proceeded.

Q: Hello.

A: Hello.

Q: Is anyone with us?
A: Listen, Look, Learn.

Q: (L) What is your name?
A: Ellaga.

Q: (L) Are you discarnate from earth? A: No. Alien.

Q: (L) Are you from another galaxy?
A: No.

Q: (L) Where are you from? A: Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) Is this the constellation we know as Cassiopaea?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What can we do for a better connection?
A: Less noise. (We shut the door)

Q: (L) Do you have information for us this evening?
A: Space invasion soon. Four to six years. Battle between forces
good and evil. Wait near. Look far. Listen. Mexico falls; Ethiopia quakes;
September both will happen. Near January: Paris bomb; London Blizzard, 109 die;
Plane down in Tahiti; Cholera in Montana January. Government of U.S. behind
California Quakes. Three soon. Oklahoma political abduction in
February. Big news.

Q: (L) Did Ann, S____ and Laura see an alien craft last night?
A: You better believe it.

Q: (L) Whose craft was it? A: Orion.

Q: (L) Did it appear for us specifically. A: No.

Q: (L) Do they know we saw them?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Did they leave because we saw them? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Were they planning to abduct somebody? A: Maybe. You are next.

Q: (L) What? A: To be abducted.

Q: (L) Who? A: LK

Q: (L) By whom? A: Orion.

Q: (L) When? A: Open.

Q: (L) Why? A: For Knowledge monitoring. Craft above now.

Q: (L) Above the house? A: Absolutely.

Q:
(L) Is it good for me to be abducted?A: Neutral.

Q: (L) Will I be abducted because I saw them last night?
A: Partly. Mike and John have reported you.

Q: (L) Are they in cahoots with the aliens?
A: Not knowingly.

Q: (L) How, then? A: Subconcious. Implants.

Q: (L) Do we have implants? A: Two implants; one monitor.

Q: (L) What is the difference between a monitor and an implant?
A: All are monitors. Implant is permanent. Freddie and Laura have
permanent implants. S____ got monitor three months ago. Next is implant.

Q: (L) Why? A: It would interfere with universal law of free will and service to
self.

Q: (L) But we don’t want to be abducted. Can’t we stop it?
A: Not likely. They have more power than you.

Q: (L) Well then, why can’t you help us?
A: Would interfere in natural progression of your race and theirs.
The Jews called upon us to save them and we could not. And, natives of your
land called upon us and we could not save them from your race; we
could not stop that either. It is natural progression, see?

Q: (L) Are we going to be wiped out by aliens as part of this
natural
progression? A: Maybe. What makes you think you are special?

Q: (L)
Jesus told us God loves us. Is this true?
A: But it is the soul that matters, not the body. The body dies not
the soul.

Q: (L) Well, this whole thing just gives us the creeps.
A: You are energy. There is an energy that comes from the soul and
body connection; later the body is used for parts.

Q: (L) What are they using our energy and bodies for?
A: To create a new race. Theirs is fading out.

Q: (L) Well, do they just take people and kill them and do what with
them? A: They slice them up.

Q: (L) Do they die? A: Maximum matter and energy transfer occurs during this type of
transition.

Q: (L) In other words, you are saying that a slow painful death
gives them the most of what they want? This is totally sick. A: You asked for truth. You say it is sick but it is merely the
ultimate form of service to self.

(At this point A___ described reading a passage in a book which
stated that Native Americans believed a slow torturous death of an
enemy gave them more power.)

A: What about your lab animals? Is that not service to self as well?
What about unwanted insects et cetera?

Q: (L) We were here first!
A: So were the insects. Grays now want your planet.

Q: (L) That is sick.
A: Is natural progression sick?

Q: (L) Is what is happening something like what
Jesus described in
the parable of the wheat where the workers come in to take out the
weeds first? A: Close.

Q: (L) What kind of people is this being done to?
A: Low level humans.

Q: (L) When will this be? A: It has already started. Will intensify steadily.

Q: (L) Why are we not aware that it has already started? A: It is disguised at this point as
weather. It is still in other
dimensions. Will go to this one within 18 years. Anytime within this period. The
absolute time is not determinable as to exactly when. It could be
tomorrow or 18 years from now. (now 1994)

Q: (L) 18 years from now is
2012. Is there some special significance
to that time? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Will the earth be affected by a comet or planet?
A: Maybe. One question at a time please.

Q: (L) Is vegetarianism then the way we should eat?
A: That is concentrating on the physical. The body is not important.

Q: (L) Does this mean that to worry about the body in any way is
wrong? A: Close. Don’t concentrate on life in the body. Concentrate on the
spirit.

Q: (L) Does this mean Laura should ignore her heart condition?
A: Don’t worry about it. Treat the spirit.

Q: (L) But we like being in bodies and having opportunities to love
and appreciate the natural world and all the beautiful things of
creation. It is only natural to not want to terminate access to
something that can be so pleasant. A: You will always have access.

Q: (L) Would we be happy moving to British Guyana? A: Not likely.

Q: (L) Will we be happy staying here and fixing this house?
A: More likely. No dish or clothes washers in Guyana. No
electricity. No air conditioning. Are you ready for that?

Q: (L) But we don’t want to stay here and be eaten by aliens!
A: Aliens eat Guyanans too.

Q: (L) But where should we go when Florida sinks?
A: Who said Florida was going to sink?

Q: (L) Are we chosen?
A: What is chosen? Only you can choose. The choice comes by nature
and free
will and looking and listening. Where you are is not important. Who
you are is and also what you see.

Q: Is there anything that can be done to help this situation?
A: All is learning.

Q: Should S____ sell her house? A: That is optional.

Q: Does E___ want to try and work things out? A: E___ has met someone.

Q: Where did E___ go this weekend? A: Bimini.

Q: Does E___ have more money than he lets on?
A: A lot offshore?

Q: What do you mean offshore? A: Caymans.

Q: Is there any way S____ can get access to this? A: Be careful. E___ is unstable.

Q: How much money are we talking about here? A: $200,000.

Q: Where did he make this money? A: Boca Raton.

Q: How did he make it?
A: Crafty investment.

Q: Should S_____ sign the divorce settlement as it is now written?
A: Think it over carefully.

Q: Is there anything she can do to make this situation better at
this time? A: Not much.

Q: Why has E____ gotten himself into this situation with the
accident, the divorce and everything else? A: Karmic lessons for him. And you think about it S_____. Did you
not value
moneymen too much once before?

Q: She doesn’t think so. A: Remember your first husband, where did love of money lead him?

Q: S____ says she married for love. It wasn’t very pleasant to have
your husband die at that age and she sure had a struggle after he
died. A: Lesson is for S_____. Karmic destiny.

Q: Is this because she may have loved money too much in another
life? A: Extending into this one.

Q: S____ thinks she has learned this lesson by now.
A: Not yet.

Q: S____ wants to know what she can do to end this pattern and stop
these awful things from happening in her life? A: Up to you.

Q: Can’t you be more specific?
A: Stop loving money so much.

Q: But S____ is very generous with her time and money. How can that
be loving money so much? And E___ certainly didn’t have any money
when she married him. A: It is subconscious. And what about the first time?

Q: She insists that she married for love. A: Thought you did.

Q: But what about E___? A: E___ was recognizably money oriented. You knew this
subconsciously.

Q: Well, if all this is subconscious, what can she do about it?
A: Learn to change. S_____ must come out about her previous
relationships. She must open up and be honest with herself and others to begin to clear
the karma. She must soul search.

Q: But, she says she is doing this now.
A: Come to your senses.

Q: What do you mean? A: Find that out yourself.

Q: We don’t understand what you mean that S_____ must come to her
senses. A: It is complicated. All is part of lesson.

Q: Well, I have warned her about M___ F___. I think she is playing
with fire there. A: Of course. M___ thinks any woman will come under his spell.

Q: Is he trying to manipulate S___? A: What do you think?

Q: What is the karmic link there? A: It’s working.

Q: What is working?
A: His efforts.

Q: Well, S___ thinks she can handle the situation and there is a lot
she thinks she can learn from M___. A: He is not telling the truth.

Q: But he seems to have so much knowledge. A: That is part of the spell.

Q: Does he know a great deal involving how to control others from a
distance? Does he know what he is doing consciously? A: Not exactly knows.

Q: Well, what does he know? A: How to visualize.

Q: Why is S____ so fascinated by him?
A: Powerful man.

Q: Well, is this power something he gets from attachments or alien
influence? A: Both.

Q: Well, which is most influential? A: Even.

Q: S___ thinks she can get what she wants from M____ with no strings
attached. A: Not likely.

Q: Well, what is keeping her involved here?
A: Ask her.

Q: Well, how is she supposed to get the knowledge she wants?
A: There are those that have it but are more cautious.

Q: Does the government know about S____?
A: Yes.

Q: Does the government know about L___? A: Even more so. You have not been quiet.

Q: (L) Was this information he got during this period of extended
sleep? A: Yes.

Q: (L) How long was he asleep, or in this state of semi-death?
A: 98 hours.

Q: (L) And then, a ship arrived and took him away, is that correct?
A: Yes. Upon pillar of light.

Q: (L) Are there any other miracles he did that are outstanding?
A: Miracles are subjective.

Q: (L) Did he raise Lazarus from the dead?
A: No.

Q: (L) Did he raise anybody from the dead? A: No.

Q: (L) Okay, when he got to this other plane, what did he do?
A: Vague question.

Q: (L) Is there any special power or advantage in praying in the
name of Jesus? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Well, if he didn’t die and release his spirit into the earth
plane, how is this power conferred? A: Prayers go to him.

Q: (L) And what does he do when he hears the prayers? A: Determines their necessity against background of individual soul
development.

Q: (L) You said that when a person prays to Jesus that he makes some
sort of a
decision, is that correct? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Well, how can he do that when millions of people are praying
to him simultaneously? A: Soul division.

Q: (L) What do you mean by soul division?
A: Self explanatory.

Q: (L) Do you mean soul division as in cellular meiosis where a cell
splits and replicates itself? A: No.

Q: (L) Does Jesus’ soul divide?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) How many times does it divide? A: Endlessly as a projection of consciousness.

Q: (L) And what happens to this piece of soul that is divided or
projected? A: Is not a piece of a soul.

Q: (L) What is it?
A: It is a replication.

Q: (L) Is each replication exactly identical to the original?
A: Yes. And no.

Q: (L) In what way is the replicated soul different from the
original? A: Not able to give individual attention.

Q: (L) Are any of us able to replicate in this manner if we so
desire? A: Could if in same circumstance. The way the process works is thus:
When Jesus left the earth plane, he went into another dimension or density of
reality, whereupon all “rules” regarding the awareness of time and
space are entirely different from the way they are perceived here.
At this point in space time his soul which was/is still in the
physical realm, was placed in a state of something akin to suspended
animation and a sort of advanced form of unconsciousness. From that
point to the present his soul has been replicated from a state of
this unconsciousness in order that all who call upon him or need to
be with him or need to speak to him can do so on an individual
basis. His soul can be replicated ad infinitum—as many times as
needed. The replication process produces a state of hyper-consciousness in each and every version of the soul consciousness.

Q: (L) Who was Jack the Ripper? A: Dr. Bates.

Q: (L) Did he commit suicide and is that why the Ripper killings
stopped? A: No.

Q: (L) Did he just stop doing it? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Why did he do it? A: Experiment human organs; he was a mad surgeon.

Q: (L) Was Adolf Hitler under the control of the negatively oriented
aliens? A: Close.

Q: (L) Where is Adolf Hitler now? A: Sleeping.

Q: (L) How long will he sleep? A: Indefinite.

Q: (L) Will Adolf Hitler return to incarnation at some point in the
future? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Can you predict what kind of life he will lead in his future
incarnation? A: No.

Q: (L) The passages attributed to Jesus in Matthew 24 and Luke 21,
where Jesus predicts the end of the age and his return, is that
fairly accurately rendered? A: Close.

Q: (L) Is Jesus, in fact, in a state of suspension, voluntarily, in
another plane of existence, having chosen to give up his life on
this plane in order to continuously generate replications of his
soul pattern for other people to call upon for assistance? A: Yes.

Q: (L) If one calls upon him more than once, does one get a double
dose? A: Define.

Q: (L) If one repeatedly calls upon Jesus does one get repeated
replications or additional strength, power or whatever? A: No.

Q: (L) In other words, once one has truly made the connection,
that’s it? A: That’s all that’s needed.

Q: (L) Has any other soul volunteered to perform this work?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) How many souls are doing this work at the present time?
A: 12.

Q: (L) Can you name any of the others? A: Bhudda. Moses. Shintanhilmoon. Nagaillikiga. Varying degrees;
Jesus is the
strongest currently.

Q: (L) What year did the Exodus occur counting backward from now
according to our calendrical system? A: 4670.

Q: (L) At that time did a cometary Venus pass close to the earth and
cause disruption? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was Venus born from the planet Jupiter?
A: No.

Q: (L) Did it appear in the sky from the area of Jupiter?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was the earth knocked into a new orbital position because of
this activity? Is an event of this type going to take place in the not-
too-distant future? A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Did an event of this type take place at the time of the flood
of Noah? A: Yes.

Q: (L) How many years ago did the flood of Noah occur?
A: 12656.

Q: (L) Was Noah an actual historical person?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Was Noah the same person described in the Babylonian texts as
Utnapishtim? A: Close.

Q: (L) Which is the older civilization: Sumerian or Egyptian?
A: Sumerian.

Q: (L) Who were Enlil and
Enki of Sumerian stories?
A: Great teachers.

Q: (L) Were they human or extraterrestrial?
A: Extraterrestrial.

Q: (L) Where did they come from?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) Was the human race genetically engineered to be slaves?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And who were the genetic engineers of this slavehood?
A: Lizard beings.

Q: (L) Where do they come from: earth or another planet?
A: Other.

Q: (L) What planet from? A: Qaddeera.

Q: (L) What star system is that in?
A: Zeta Reticuli.

Q: (L) Are the little gray beings from Zeta Reticuli also?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are the little gray beings... A: Cybergenetic.

Q: (L) Are they created by the lizards? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Do they have souls?
A: They are Decoys.

Q: (L) Are the Lizzies currently with us?
A: Near.

Q: (L) Are the Lizzies planning to take over our planet?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are they planning on landing and doing this openly?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Do they utilize such things as possession by dark energy
forms to effect their control? A: Yes.

Q: (L) What other groups are they in cahoots with?
A: Orions.

Q: (L) How many members are there in the Orion/Lizzie group?
A: 16.

Q: (L) Who are the good guys? You say the
Cassiopaeans are the good
guys. Who else? A: Pleiadeans and many others.

Q: (L) How many?
A: 16.

Q: (L) Are the sides equally balanced? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Do the good guys abduct people? A: No. They may contact and voluntarily transport.

Q: (L) Who really killed Abraham Lincoln? A: Booth. Conspiracy.

Q: (L) Who was the head of the conspiracy? A: Booth. But was not caught; was patsy stand in.

Q: (L) Was the story of Noah’s flood the story of the breaking up of
Atlantis? A: Yes. But symbolic.

Q: (L) How many people were on the planet at that time?
A: 6 billion.

Q: (L) Out of this six billion people, how many survived?
A: 119 million.

Q: (L) Was Noah’s flood caused by the close passage of another
celestial body? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Which body was that? A: Martek.

Q: (L) Do we know this body in our solar system now? A: Yes.

Q: (L) What name? A: Mars.

Q: (L) Was Martek an inhabited planet at that time?
A: No.

Q: (L) Did it have water or other features? A: Yes.

Q: (L) When it passed close to the earth did it, in fact, overload
our planet
with water we did not have prior to that time? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Did we, prior to that time, have a water-vapor canopy
surrounding our
planet? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was this the time of the major dying of the large dinosaurs?
A: Close.

Q: (L) What event transpired to kill off most of the dinosaurs?
A: Beasts.

Q: (L) Was it a cosmic event that brought about the death of some of
the largest
dinosaurs? A: Yes.

Q: (L) It did not happen at the time of Noah, is that correct?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Did it happen before the flood of Noah?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) How many thousands of years ago counting backward?
A: 27 million years ago.

Q: (L) What event took place at that time that caused the death of
the dinosaurs? A: Comet impact.

Q: (L) Did a comet actually strike the earth?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was it a large comet? A: Yes.

Q: (L) How large?
A: 18 miles diameter.

Q: (L) Is there any regular periodicity or cycle to this comet
business? A: Yes.

Q: (L) What is the period? A: 3600 years roughly.

Q: (L) Was Velikovsky correct when he said
Venus was on a 52 year
orbit during a certain period in our history?A: Close.

Q: (L) How many passes did Venus make through the solar system
before it was precipitated into a regular planetary orbit? A: 7

Q: (L) Where did Venus originally come from? A: 19 light years away.

Q: (L) So, it is actually an extra-solar system visitor? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is it true that at regular intervals the sun radiates massive
amounts of electromagnetic energy which then causes the planets of
the solar system to interact with one another to a greater or lesser
extent? A: Other irregular pulsations determined by external vibrational
events.

Q: (L) The sun is not the source of the periodicity of “dyings”, is
that correct? A: Sometimes. Many causes.

Q: (L) Well what is the cause that recurs like clockwork? Is there
some cause that is a regular pulsation? A: Cometary showers.

Q: (L) Where are these cometary showers from?
A: Clusters in own orbit.

Q: (L) Where is the orbit of these clusters? Is it the Oort cloud?
A: No.

Q: (L) Where is the orbit of clusters of comets located?
A: More specific.

Q: (L) A specific orbit containing clusters of comets?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Does this cluster of comets orbit around the sun?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is the orbit perpendicular to the plane of the ecliptic?
A: Yes and no.

Q: (L) Does this cluster come into the plane of the ecliptic and
cause havoc in the solar system? A: Exactly.

Q: (L) How often does this cluster of comets come into the plane of
the ecliptic? A: 3600 years.

Q: (L) Is this cluster of comets the remains of a planet?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is the cluster of fragments in between the orbits of Mars and
Jupiter the
remains of a planet? A: Yes.

Q: (L) What was that planet known as?
A: Kantek.

Q: (L) When did that
planet break apart into the asteroid belt?A: 79 thousand years ago approximately.

Q: (L) Why is it every time we communicate with you Cassiopaeans we
get a different person? A: Energy disbursement.

Q: (L) Who is the energy disbursed to?
A: The next in order.

Q: (L) Does that mean that you utilize our energy to disburse?
A: No. We disburse.

Q: (L) We have a series of questions we want to ask.
A: Go ahead.

Q: (L) Assuming there is a fleet of spacecraft riding a wave, and
approaching from the vicinity of Zeta Reticuli, what does it mean to
say that the space time warp is indefinite in terms of arrival? Why
is this? Please specify. A: Mass affects electromagnetic transfer within gravity wave.

Q: (L) In other words, if there is a large mass you are trying to
transfer, is the problem partly because the mass itself spreads out
over such a large area of space/time and must be transferred in
stages or something along that line? A: Close.

Q: (L) Can you help us out anymore here?
A: Mass affects time cycle: small equal short cycle; large or dense
equals long cycle.

Q: (L) We would also like to have more information on earth changes.
Is the Japanese earthquake that just happened as you predicted last
week, the last of the Japanese problem? (An entire session had been
lost due to tape malfunction.) A: No.

Q: (L) Can you give us more on that...
A: There will be activity about 8.9: 67 miles off Osaka coast; 9.7:
central Tokyo.

Q: (L) Are all of these going to happen within this year?
A: No. Within 1.6 years.

Q: (L) I would like more details about the man you say is the
biological father of Jesus. Once again, what is his name? A: Tonatha.

Q: (L) You said he was an acquaintance of Mary’s? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was he selected for some reason to be the biological father
of Jesus by other beings or powers. A: Close.

Q: (L) Can you give us any details about him. What was his lineage,
where did he come from, etc. A: He was a member of the white sect.

Q: (L) What is the white sect? A: AKA
Aryans. Andarans. (Laura’s note: Who are the Andarans?)

Q: (L) Was Mary a member of the Essene group? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was this man also a member of the Essenes? A: No.

Q: (L) This person, Tonatha, was chosen to be the biological father
of Jesus? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Who was the mother of these children?
A: There were three women.

Q: (L) There were three women?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are they mentioned in the Bible? A: One is but not by name.

Q: (L) Who was one of them? A: Alicia.

Q: (L) What was the name of the second one?
A: Rafea.

Q: (L) The third one? A: Vella. Romans.

Q: (L) All three of them were Romans? A: Yes.

Q: (L) And what happened to the children?
A: Survived and multiplied fruitfully.

Q: (L) How many children were there from the three mothers?
A: Three.

Q: (L) Is that, as some people claim, the true meaning of the search
for the Holy Grail, that it is not a cup but the “Sang Real”, or
holy blood line? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are there any descendants of Jesus living today?
A: 364,142.

Q: (L) Was JesusChristed in the sense of having some special mantle
of power falling over him at the time of his baptism? A: Nearly correct.

Q: (L) Is Guyana a relatively safe place in terms of earth crustal
movements, earth changes, etc. A: What is? Earth includes all planet surface.

Q: (L) Are there any places that are going to be safer than others?
A: Changeable.

Q: (L) Is the North Caroline/blue ridge Mountain area relatively
safe? A: What did I just tell you? Depends on vibrational frequency
changes. No specific earth changes are accurately predictable until near event.

Q: (LM) Ask what happened to those people that just died in
Switzerland. Were they murdered? A: Pact. Agreement. Covenant.

Q: (L) They all made a pact to commit suicide together? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Why? How many were there? A: 48. Religious
zealously.

Q: (L) Did the United States government deliberately murder the
Branch Davidians at Waco? A: Close. Led them to destroy themselves.

Q: (L) How? A: Psychological warfare tactics.

Q: (L) Did the US government set their compound on fire?
A: No.

Q: (L) Who set the compound on fire? A: Branch Davidians. Drove them crazy.

Q: (L) Were ELF or subliminals used? A: Yes. As well as other means.

Q: (L) Did OJ Simpson kill his wife? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Did he take the murder clothes and weapon to Chicago and
leave it there in a bag? A: No.

Q: (L) Where is it? A: LA dump. One of them.

Q: (L) Is OJ Simpson going to be found guilty? A: No.

Q: (L) What gifts did the magi/prophets bring to Jesus as a baby?
A: Gold; spices; clothing.

Q: (L) What other realm did the mother ship come from that was
sighted by the magi? A: 5th density.

Q: (L) And what was the purpose of the appearance of this mother
ship at the time of the birth of Jesus? A: Too vague.

Q: (L) Was it here for specific purposes relating to the birth of
Jesus? A: To lead the prophets.

Q: (L) Was that the main purpose?
A: No. Also observation of event and encoding.

Q: (L) Encoding of what?
A: Infant.

Q: (L) Was that encoding done physically or telepathically?
A: Both.

Q: (L) What realm or area did Jesus come from before he was born
into the earth in the body of Jesus of Nazareth? A: 5th density.

Q: (L) He was a fifth density soul? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Had he had any other incarnations in other human bodies on
planet earth? A: Yes.

Q: (L) How many incarnations did he have before he achieved fifth
density? A: 1009.

Q: (L) Was Melchizidek an incarnation of Jesus?
A: No.

Q: (L) Was Joshua, the right hand man of Moses an incarnation of
Jesus? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are there any other incarnations of Jesus with which we would
be familiar if you were to name them? A: Yes. Socrates.

Q: (L) What was the spiritual relationship of Jesus to John the
Baptist? A: Pact.

Q: (L) What was the spiritual relationship of Jesus to Mary, his
mother? A: Pact.

Q: (L) There was no other spiritual relationship in the sense of
being combined souls? A: No.

Q: (L) Were either Mary or John the Baptist fifth density souls?
A: Both.

Q: (L) Are there any fifth density souls on the earth today or any
of recent times we would recognize? A: Yes. Arafat. Sadat. Pope John V.

Q: (L) Do demons and evil spirits fear anything? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Do they fear any power that we, as humans, possess?
A: Yes. Knowledge.

Q: (L) Do they fear religious symbols, signs or figures?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is there any name or sign or symbol that can halt their
activity? A: Sometimes.

Q: (L) Were they afraid of
Christ?
A: Yes. Because of his knowledge. The mass of his knowledge raised
his vibrations. Knowledge is truly power.

Q: (L) Do pentagrams have any effect in slowing down or halting
negative entities? A: Only if you think they do.

Q: (L) Is the greatest power we have to resist demonic entities held
in our free will: our power to say no? A: No.

Q: (L) What is our greatest power?
A: Knowledge.

Q: (L) Does the accumulation of spiritual knowledge hold the key?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is there any other clue you can give us?
A: You do not need anything else than knowledge.

Q: (L) You said the Exodus occurred in 2676 B.C., is that correct?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Was that the last passage of the cometary Venus?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was this activity of Venus interactive with the close passing
of the cluster of comets you have mentioned? A: Close. One of three cataclysms close together.

Q: (L) If Venus was one of the cataclysms and the cluster of comets
was another, what was the third? A: Mars.

Q: (L) Was Mars knocked out of it’s orbit by Venus?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And the two appeared to do battle in the sky to the
inhabitants of the earth as Velikovsky described, is that correct?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Now, this cluster of comets, when was the last time it came
into the solar system? A: 3582 yrs ago?

Q: (L) What is the cycle?
A: 3600 yrs.

Q: (L) So, when is this cluster expected to hit the plane of the
ecliptic again? A: 12 to 18 years. (now 1994)

Q: (L) Are the aliens traveling with this cluster of comets?
A: No.

Q: (L) What land did Noah/Utnapishtim live in, what continent?
A: Atlantis.

Q: (L) Where did the ark land after the receding of the waters?
A: Egypt.

Q: (L) What caused Martek to pass close to the earth at that time
since that was many thousands of years before the Venus interaction?
A: Planetary alignment gravitational aberration related to Venus.

Q: (L) So, there was a planetary line-up that caused Mars to be
pulled out of its orbit? A: Yes.

Q: (L) What was the event a hundred or so years after the flood of
Noah that was described as the confusing of languages, or the tower of Babel?
A: Spiritual confluence.

Q: (L) What purpose did the individuals who came together to build
the tower intend for said tower? A: Electromagnetic concentration of all gravity waves.

Q: (L) And what did they intend to do with these concentrated waves?
A: Mind alteration of masses.

Q: (L) What intention did they have in altering the mind of the
masses? A: Spiritual unification of the masses.

Q: (L) Who were the “gods” that looked down on the tower of Babel,
at those who were building it with the intention of unification, and
decided to destroy their works? A: Lizards.

Q: (L) Okay, so the Lizzies blew up the tower of Babel. What else
did they do to the minds of mankind; did they do something causing
literal disruption of their understanding of language? A: Close.

Q: (L) What tool did they use to accomplish this divisiveness?
A: Brainwashing of masses.

Q: (L) Did they do this through implants and abduction?
A: Partly.

Q: (L) What is the true meaning, the original meaning, of the Hebrew
word “shem”? A: Purity.

Q: (L) Why was this word related to the obelisks or standing stones
later called “shems” by the Hebrews? A: Symbolic of purity: unification. Uniformity.

Q: (L) What object were the ancients going to place in the tower of
Babel to... A: Crystal.

Q: (L) Is “shem” also
synonymous with “crystal”?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Shem, the son of Noah, was the ancestor of the group that
built the tower, is this correct? A: Yes.

Q: (L) How were Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed and the other cities of
the plain? And by whom? A: Nuclear; EM pulse. Who else?

Q: (L) The lizzies?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Why? A: To implant fear and obedience.

Q: (L) Weren’t the Sodom and Gomorrans really evil and bad doing
sodomy and Gomorrahy? A: That is a deception of history.

Q: (L) Did Lot’s wife get turned into a pillar of salt?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is there any symbolism in that particular story for us today?
A: No.

Q: (L) Was the god who communicated with Abraham one of the Lizzies?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was the pact that Abraham made with the Lizzies?
A: Yes. Not directly.

Q: (L) Was Melchizidek a priest of the Lizzies?
A: No.

Q: (L) Did Melchizidek give Abraham the true information?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Is the Kaballah the true teachings of the good guys?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Is the Osirian cycle the exemplification of the action of the
Lizzies upon mankind in terms of the cutting up of Osiris’ body as
the breaking apart of the strands of DNA? A: Close.

Q: (L) What was the Fruit of the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil
that was supposedly eaten by Eve and then offered to Adam? A: Knowledge restriction. Encoding.

Q: (L) What did it mean when it said Eve ate of the fruit of the
tree of knowledge. What act did she perform to do that? A: Consorted with wrong side.

Q: (L) What does consorted mean? A: Eve is symbolic.

Q: (L) Symbolic of what? A: Female energy.

Q: (L) The female energy did what when it consorted?
A: Lost some knowledge and power.

Q: (L) Why was the eating of the fruit of this tree called
knowledge
of good and evil feared by god or gods to enable Eve to be equated
with gods? A: What? Clarify please.

Q: (L) Who was the god that feared that the eating of this fruit
would make Eve equal to him or them? A: No.

Q: (L) The Bible says that
God said that they were afraid that they
would now take hold of the fruit of the tree of life and live
forever. What does this mean? Why did the eating of this fruit make
god afraid? A: Did not.

Q: (L) What was the fruit of the tree of life?
A: Limitation.

Q: (L) How can the fruit of the tree of eternal life be limitation?
A: Conceptually limited.

Q: (L) I want you to know that this does not make a whole lot of
sense. A: Yes it does. Think carefully.

Q: (L) Was the god who walked in the garden who warned Adam and Eve
not to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil,
was that the original creator god? i.e. the good guy? A: No.

Q: (L) Who was that god who ordered them not to eat of this tree?
A: Complicated. Laura you are missing the obvious.

Q: (L) In what sense would the fruit of the tree of life be
limiting? A: Believing that one source contains all knowledge is contradicting
reality.

Q: (L) What was the flaming sword barring re-entry to Eden?
A: Do you not understand?

Q: (L) No I do not understand.
A: Review.

Q: (F) If the concept was the eating of the fruit of the tree of
knowledge provides all knowledge, then one is being deceived,
because no one particular source can provide all knowledge.
Therefore, when one believes in the deception, one has now trapped
oneself within parameters. And, forevermore, the human race, will be
poisoned by the very same problem which is reflected in several
different ways: one is always seeking the truth through one pathway
instead of seeking it through a myriad of pathways; and also
believing in simplistic answers to very complex issues and
questions. (L) What was the flaming sword barring re-entry into
the garden of Eden? A: Symbolizes trap.

Q: (L) A self-imposed flaming sword?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Where was Eden? A: Earth.

Q: (L) The entire earth was Eden?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was the “fall” in Eden, or the loss of the Edenic state, also
accompanied by a cataclysm? A: Yes.

Q: (L) What was the nature of that cataclysm?
A: Comets.

Q: (L) The cluster you have mentioned before?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And, how long ago did this occur? A: 309882 years ago.

Q: (L) Was the loss of the Edenic state also accompanied by a
takeover of mankind by the Lizzies? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Who were the original creator gods?
A: Us. Sixth Density.

Q: (L) The Cassiopaeans? Were the Pleiadeans also the original
creator gods? A: Same. Sixth Density.

Q: (L) What was the true identity of the serpent in Eden?
A: Lizards.

Q: (L) Who built the great pyramid? A: Atlanteans.

Q: (L) What year was it built? A: 10643 years ago.

Q: (L) Why was it built? What purpose was it used for?
A: Capture cosmic energy.

Q: (L) And what was this cosmic energy used for once it was
captured? A: Many things. Power, transport, healing, mind control, climate,
etcetera.

Q: (L) Who built the sphinx? A: Same.

Q: (L) Was the sphinx built at the same time?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Why was the sphinx built? What was its purpose?
A: Temple.

Q: (L) Are there records buried under the sphinx?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What happened to Neanderthal man? A: Removed by Lizzies to other planets.

Q: (L) Is that removed as in taken off the planet physically?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What planet were they taken to? A: Others.

Q: (L) Of the several places around this country that we have
thought about moving, which one would we be happiest in? A: Indefinite.

Q: (L) Would we be happy in the Blue Mountains in Oregon.
A: Not determinable.

Q: (L) Shouldn’t you be able to give prophetic insights?
A: Too many variables in this matter.

Q: (L) Is there an advantage to taking turns as opposed to having
one
communicant? A: Yes.

Q: (L) What is the advantage? A: Energy equalization.

Q: (L) Is it difficult for you to make contact with us? A: No.

Q: (L) Would it be difficult for you to make contact with others?
A: Becoming easier with you.

Q: (L) I would like to know the time of the great dying of the major
dinosaurs, the big critters? A: 27 million years as measured by your scale.

Q: (L) Regarding the “Fall” in Eden and the loss of the Edenic
state, how long ago did that happen? A: 309000 years ago approx.

Q: (L) What was the situation... what happened... what was the state
of mankind? A: Loss of faith caused knowledge and physical restrictions by
outside forces.

Q: (L) What did the snake or the “tempter” represent?
A: Forces known to you as Lizzies; we have already taught you this.

Q: (L) I am just checking! A: Faith dear.

Q: (L) I’m having faith, I’m just checking.
A: Suit yourself.

Q: (L) Who were the original genetic engineers of the human race?
A: Us.

Q: (L) The Cassiopaeans, correct? A: Yes.

Q: (L) For what purpose did you genetically engineer us? Was it a
mandate from God? A: Soul development or advancement.

Q: (L) The Sumerian story of the creation of human beings involves a
story where they say they killed a god and mixed his blood and parts
to mix with mud and then planted it in these female “gestation”
goddesses and that this is where the human race came from. Now, this
sounds an awful lot like what the “Grays” are doing at the present
time. Did someone actually kill a “god”, break his soul in pieces,
and thereby make the human race? A: Symbolism and not correct event sequence.

Q: (L) What was that story about? What was the real seed event?
A: Lizard beings genetically altering the human race after battle
for their own
feeding purposes.

Q: (L) When did these events that these Sumerian stories are talking
about take place? A: 309000 years ago, approx.

Q: (L) So, it happened so long ago that these stories have lost the
truth? A: Reflection passed down through psychic memory channel.

Q: (L) What killed off the major dinosaurs? A: Comet impact.

Q: (L) What was the source of this comet? A: Cluster.

Q: (L) How long has this comet cluster been with us in our solar
system? A: 890 million years.

Q: (L) What was the origin of this comet cluster? Was it originally
a large planet? A: No.

Q: (L) You said the other night that there was a planet between Mars
and Jupiter that was destroyed and became the asteroid belt. Was
this planet ever inhabited by sentient beings? A: Yes.

Q: (L) What caused this planet to be destroyed?
A: Psychic energy.

Q: (L) And where did the beings come from that lived on this planet?
Did they evolve there? A: No.

Q: (L) Are you ever in any way physical? A: Varying degrees according to realm.

Q: (L) Why are you communicating with us? A: Because you called.

Q: (L) What are the differences between the Celts and the Aryans?
A: Geographic and cultural.

Q: (L) Are there any differences inherent from the former planetary
home? A: No. Post arrival difference development.

Q: (L) Were they the same prior to arrival?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was Mars ever inhabited? A: Yes.

Q: (L) By whom?
A: By those you now know as Sasquatch or Bigfoot.

Q: (L) Do they now live on this planet as a result of being brought
here by other beings? A: They are transitory. Do not inhabit on a permanent basis.

Q: (L) Well, how do they come and go? A: They are the
slaves and “pets” of the Lizard Beings.

Q: (L) How did the Sasquatch get here from Mars? A: Brought by Lizard Beings but they do not inhabit earth.

Q: (L) Why have Sasquatch been seen in remote places throughout
history? A: Put there for menial slave tasks.

Q: (L) Does that mean that whenever Sasquatch have been seen that
there is a Lizard nearby? A: No.

Q: (L) What menial tasks might they be doing?
A: Collecting samples.

Q: (L) Why has everyone who has ever come in contact with Sasquatch
commented on the awful odor of them? Why do they stink? A: Organic functions.

Q: (L) What is it about their organic functions that makes them
stink? A: Sweat.

Q: (L) Who killed Sir Harry Oakes? A: David Crofts.

Q: (L) Who was St. Issa of India. A: Lama Kirtanah.

Q: (L) Where was he from?
A: Palestine.

Q: (L) When was he in India? A: 13 and 14 A.D.

Q: (L) Is Fred’s mind programmed? A: Yes.

Q: (L) To do what?
A: To be an open channel.

Q: (L) By who? A: Us.

Q: (L) You said one other time that he was also
programmed by the
Grays. A: Yes.

Q: (L) To do what? A: To destroy himself.

Q: (L) Is this why it is important for him to channel? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Why do they feed off emotions? A: To fuel their energy.

Q: (L) Details about Jesus’ extended “sleep” state. A: He spent 96 hours in a comatose state in a cave near Jerusalem.
When he
awoke, he prophesied to his disciples and then exited the cave.
27,000 people had assembled because of mother ship appearance and he
was taken up in a beam of light.

Q: (L) Why did we have trouble with the tape recorder?
A: Influence of Lizard beings. In your head.

Q: (L) Why didn’t you guys tell me the tape was not recording?
A: Must experience to learn to practice precaution.

Q: (L) I am going to give a list of planets written about in the
Sumerian texts
which Dr. Sitchin has interpreted. I would like for you to give me
the true translation of these names. What was meant by : Mummu:
Comet cluster. Lahamu:
Venus Lahmu: Earth The Hammered Bracelet: Comet trail of Venus and
cluster.
Anshar: Jupiter. Anu: Moon. EA:Sun. Gaga:Saturn. Marduk: Mars.
Tiamat: Sirius. Q: (L) You say that Christ gave into temptation,
could you please clarify what that means to us? A: Three women represented sexual temptation. He felt bad after
each. He
washed himself and asked for strength and forgiveness.

Q: (L) What
did Christ write on the ground in the story about the adulteress who
was about to be stoned? A: Look into soul.

Q: (L) That is what he wrote?
A: Yes. Translation.

Q: (L) What, exactly, does the U.S. Government know about aliens?
A: That they exist.

Q: (L) Does the government have or did they ever have a treaty with
any aliens? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is the treaty still in effect?
A: Never was.

Q: (L) Did they try to get a treaty with them?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Did the aliens refuse? A: No. Tricked.

Q: (L) How long before the U.S. government realized they had been
tricked? A: 19 years.

Q: (L) What year was this? A: 1972.

Q: (L) Does the government have any alien technology? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is this technology they were given? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is this mind control technology?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Does the government have the ability to say, walk through
walls as the aliens do? A: Incompetent.

Q: (L) Does the government listen to us on the telephone?
A: Can.

Q: (L) The individual in the
Karla Turner book who had an experience
similar to virtual reality, inside a blue bubble, who did this? A: Grays.

Q: (L) Who were the grays working for when they did that?
A: Lizard Beings.

Q: (L) Is M F working for either the government or the aliens?
A: Aliens.

Q: (L) Which aliens is he working for? A: Lizard beings. Unwittingly.

Q: (L) What influence was Adolf Hitler under when he undertook to do
the things he did. Who was guiding him? A: Lizards. Indirectly.

Q: (L) What connection did they use to influence him? A: Projected beings of human type, inspired forms of great Aryan
spirits.

Q: (L) Can you tell us more about the six billion people on the
planet at the
time of Noah’s flood. Where were most of these beings living? A: Atlantis.

Q: (L) In the upcoming cataclysms, which continent is going to
suffer the most
destruction? A: As yet undetermined.

Q: (L) Why are there more abductions by the grays in the United
States than in
other countries around the world? A: Government opened channel.

Q: (L) Are there alien bases in the United States? A: Yes. New Mexico, Colorado, Off Florida, Appalachia, California.

Q: (L) Did they ever at any time do anything to my physical body to
cause me problems? A: Yes.

Q: (L) What did they do. A: Implant.

Q: (L) What kind of implant and where? A: Brain silicon.

Q: (L) Did they ever put one in the lower part of my spine?
A: No.

Q: (L) Was I ever abducted by you guys? A: No. Contacted at age three. We do not abduct.

Q: (L) How did the grays know I would be a threat to them?
A: Image aural reading.

Q: (L) Is this the same reason they have abducted Freddie so many
times? A: Yes.

Q: (L) How many times have I been abducted?
A: 17 (This is five more than previously stated)

Q: (L) How many times have they abducted Freddie?
A: 53

Q: (L) Why have they abducted Freddie more than me?
A: You fight it.

Q: (L) When was the last time they abducted me?
A: Age 22

Q: (L) When was the last time Freddie? A: Age 23

Q: (L) So they haven’t been abducting us for quite some time, is
that it? A: So far.

Q: (L) Do they have any plans to abduct either of us again?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Is there any way we can prevent it? A: Knowledge channel.

Q: (L) Could you describe to me the true meaning of
the Osirian
cycle. What was
the symbology of the killing of Osiris and the cutting up of the
body? A: Removal of knowledge centers.

Q: (L) Knowledge centers in what?
A: Your DNA.

Q: (L) So, the breaking up of Osiris’ body represents the breaking
up of the DNA
in our bodies? A: Partly. Also means knowledge capacity reduction.

Q: (L) What was the symbology of the throwing of the phallus into
the river and it’s being eaten by three fishes? A: Sexual violence energy introduction.

Q: (L) What did Isis searching for her lord Osiris symbolize?
A: Separation of female energy from male energy union.

Q: (L) Does this have anything to do with brain activity?
A: Yes. The separating of the hemispheres of the brain.

Q: (L) Was this achieved through DNA modification?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What did the son of Isis, Horus, represent?
A: New reality of limitation.

Q: (L) What is the meaning of Horus avenging himself upon Set, the
murderer of his father, Osiris? A: Beginning of perpetual conflict energy to limit humanity.

Q: (L) Who did Set represent? A: War.

Q: (L) What war?
A: All.

Q: (L) You say that part of what was done to the human race was that
our capacity to retain or absorb knowledge was reduced genetically,
was there anything done to Fred or I either before or after birth in
this regard? A: In process of altering to make smarter. Ongoing since conception.
Capacity for processing information will increase exponentially.

Q: (L) You mean we are going to get smarter than we already are?
A: Much. [Much laughter]

Q: (L) Who are the beings that have been abducting
Karla Turner and
her family? A: Lizards.

Q: (L) Why have they been abducting that group of people?
A: Same reasons they have been abducting you and Fred.

Q: (L) They have been
abducting Karla Turner and her family because
they perceive them as a threat? A: Yes.

Q: (L) In one abduction where her son was involved, what was the
black shadowy thing that seemed like a moving “nothing” on the
ground? A: Blocked grays. Son not as in tune as Karla. Careful driving alone
to lectures and meetings.

Q: (L) Should she make sure there is always someone with her in the
car? A: At night and on lonely roads. Nephew must pay attention. Also
son’s friend.

Q: (L) Why did the Egyptians mummify their dead?
A: Superstition.

Q: (L) Was there really a curse on the tomb of King Tut that caused
the deaths of many people? A: Yes.

Q: (L) Where is the body.
A: Many sites. We are trying to contact Karla Turner’s son’s former
roommate.
But he is resisting. She does not realize the extreme importance.
Communicate this to her now please Laura.