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Both James and I have many comments about the movie below and I started a <a href="http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=3148033#post3148033">thread over at JREF</a> with some examples of mistakes in the film. Much of the rest of the information in this particular post concerns the earlier versions of Loose Change. <br /><br />Because this blog is getting so much traffic from Google searches and referrals from various forums and Wikipedia, we decided to put one post up top to link to information our newest visitors are apparently looking for. <br /><br />First, if you have not seen the film and want to watch it, be sure to watch the <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3214024953129565561&amp;ei=zjNySe-6Bouk-wGi06TkCw&amp;q=Screw+Loose+Change+Movie&amp;hl=en">annotated version</a>, which was named after this blog, Screw Loose Change. The creator did a terrific job on this, and we strongly recommend watching this version rather than Dylan Avery's cut. <br /><br />James has put together a list of major lies in Loose Change. Here's <a href="http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/05/top-lies-and-deceptions-of-loose.html">Part 1</a>. <a href="http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/05/top-lies-and-deceptions-of-loose_15.html">Part 2</a>. <a href="http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/05/top-lies-and-deceptions-in-loose.html">Part 3</a>. <a href="http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/05/top-lies-and-deceptions-in-loose_17.html">Part 4</a>. <br /><br />I compiled three <a href="http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/05/three-easily-understood-lies-in-loose.html">very easily refuted lies</a> in the movie. I also showed three <a href="http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/05/three-tricks-and-distortions-in-loose.html">tricks and distortions</a> that are used throughout the film. <br /><br />A friend of the blog named Mark Roberts (aka <a href="http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=57424&amp;page=80">Gravy at the JREF forums</a>) compiled this amazing <a href="http://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/LooseChangeGuide.html">Viewer's Guide to Loose Change</a>, (now HTML) which includes a complete transcript of the movie, pictures and links that refute many of the claims, and which highlights the changes between Version 1 and Version 2. <br /><br />The hot new film in 9-11 Denial is called 9-11 Mysteries. One of our JREF buddies, The Doc, has put together <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6243624912447824934">a rebuttal video</a> called (you guessed it!) Screw 9-11 Mysteries, and assembled a <a href="http://www.911mysteriesguide.com/">viewers' guide to 9-11 Mysteries</a>. <br /><br />Many 9-11 Deniers focus on the collapse of World Trade Center 7, which fell at 5:20 PM on September 11, almost seven hours after the North Tower. If you want a really detailed analysis of WTC 7, I recommend Mark Robert's <a href="http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/introduction">WTC 7 and the Lies of the 9/11 Truth Movement</a>. I also recommend the BBC's terrific video on <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9072062020229593250#">The Third Tower</a>. <br /><br />If you'd like to discuss the ideas about 9-11 you've encountered here or elsewhere, another friend of the blog started a <a href="http://screwloosechange.xbehome.com/">Screw Loose Change Forum</a>. It's a very lively place with lots of opinion back and forth between both sides. There's also a <a href="http://www.myspace.com/screwloosechange">Screw Loose Change MySpace page</a>, with some animated commentary. Of course, we also welcome comments on our posts. <br /><br />If you're looking for detailed rebuttals of other aspects of 9-11 Denial, I heartily recommend <a href="http://www.911myths.com/index.html">9-11 Myths</a>, <a href="http://www.debunking911.com/">Debunking 9-11</a> and <a href="http://internetdetectives.biz/case/loose-change">Internet Detectives</a>. <br /><br />Markyx has also put together a video (note: graphic images and strong language) called <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBT0lC77ayA">9-11 Deniers Speak</a>. If you think Dylan Avery and Jim Fetzer have any respect for the victims of 9-11, just watch this film. There are five parts. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUZnHpkyCp4&amp;mode=related&amp;search=">Part II</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8srm5Lk4hM&amp;mode=related&amp;search=">Part III</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-HmcVtiX-s&amp;mode=related&amp;search=">Part IV</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr2MZwxJRYI&amp;mode=related&amp;search=">Part V</a>. <br />There's also a Google Video which is <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7216643725166640147&amp;hl=en">all in one part</a>. <br /><br />This should be enough to get you started debunking Loose Change to your friends. We have a lot more content below this post. <br /><br />Notes on unusual terms/abbreviations: Looser (not a misspelling of Loser)=Believer in Loose Change. CT=Conspiracy Theory, Conspiracy Theorist. Truther=9-11 Conspiracy Theorist (all Loosers are Truthers, not all Truthers are Loosers). OS=Official Story. CD= Controlled Demoliton. LIHOP: Let It Happen On Purpose; theory that the government knew the 9-11 attacks were coming but allowed them to happen to further other goals of theirs. MIHOP: Made It Happen On Purpose; theory that the government planned and orchestrated the attacks. Most Truthers are MIHOP. <br /><br />Update: Comments closed on this post, which is intended solely as a pointer. Because Haloscan will not let us close comments on a particular post, be forewarned: <span style="font-weight: bold;">Don't leave a comment in this post or it will be deleted</span>. <br /><br />Update II: Note on comments: Because some of our commenters have chosen to act like children, we are no longer allowing comments.http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2007/12/permanent-top-post-scroll-down-for.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (Pat)tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-5965455503149467328Sat, 17 Sep 2016 20:29:00 +00002016-09-17T13:35:36.603-07:00David Ray Griffin Comes Up With a Brilliant Way to Dupe People Into Buying His New BookGotta hand it to him, this <a href="http://www.journalof911studies.com/why-i-wrote-another-911-book/">is a real con artist</a> at work:<br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">Not make it obvious, by means of the title, the cover, or the table of contents--that this is ultimately a 9-11 truth book.</blockquote>However, you can see the fly rapidly heading towards the ointment in this following sentence:<br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">The hope is that some people, not being aware of my notoriety, read enough of the first part of the book to see that I am not an idiot.</blockquote>The book sounds like a real stomach--err, page-turner, from the title: Bush and Cheney: How They Ruined America and the World.&nbsp; Suck 'em in with the Bush-bashing, and then switch to the 9-11 nuttery once you've got them all in a lather.&nbsp; BTW, I suspect that even the Bush-haters will have problems with this part:<br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">... American and the world are headed towards ruination because of the policies of the Bush-Cheney Administration--as continued in most cases by the Obama Administration...</blockquote>&nbsp;Gee, wonder why it's not the Obama-Biden administration?&nbsp; Maybe because nobody thinks of Biden as the evil genius pulling the strings of the Obama puppet? http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2016/09/david-ray-griffin-comes-up-with.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (Pat)2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-6306050914100656317Sat, 10 Sep 2016 20:42:00 +00002016-09-10T13:42:26.087-07:00Jill Stein Goes for the Crackpot VoteWith a call for a new 9-11 investigation, which contains the <a href="http://www.jill2016.com/on_911">usual BS talking points</a>:<br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">The families and friends of those who were murdered on 9/11 deserve justice. They also deserve to know the truth.<br /> Led by the families of those who died on 9/11, the American people wanted—and deserved—a comprehensive and independent inquiry into the attacks. The Bush administration initially said an inquiry was unnecessary, claiming that the perpetrators had been identified and their methods and motives were clear.<br /> It is well known that the 9/11 Commission produced a report containing so many omissions and distortions that <em>Harper's Magazine</em> described it as "whitewash as public service"—a document that "defrauds the nation." The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission wrote a book just two years after the final commission report, saying, "We were set up to fail." The 9/11 Commission was not given enough money, time, or access to relevant classified information.</blockquote>The usual misreading of what Kean and Hamilton really said:<br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">"Both of us were aware of grumbling around Washington that the 9/11 Commission was doomed--if not designed--to fail: the commission would splinter down partisan lines; lose its credibility by leaking classified information; be denied the necessary access to do its job; or alienate the 9/11 families who had fought on behalf of its creation. What we could not have anticipated were the remarkable people and circumstances that would coalesce within and around the 9/11 Commission over the coming twenty months to enable our success."</blockquote>From what I have seen, the Rebunkers seem to be on Trump's side; probably because he's been friendly with Alex Jones.&nbsp; I suspect that this will help Stein get Jon Gold's support. <br />http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2016/09/jill-stein-goes-for-crackpot-vote.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (Pat)31tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-4559639198999818410Mon, 29 Aug 2016 18:40:00 +00002016-09-19T16:29:38.608-07:00Jones & Company Beclown the Europhysics News<div style="text-align: left;"></div><div style="text-align: left;">In terms of our usual metric, TTFLMO (time to first lie, mistake or omission) <a href="http://www.europhysicsnews.org/articles/epn/pdf/2016/04/epn2016474p21.pdf">this one</a> actually does pretty well; it is almost three paragraphs into the article.&nbsp; Talking about why high-rise buildings usually do not collapse due to fires, they write:</div><div style="text-align: left;"></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div data-canvas-width="356.2184600000001" style="font-family: serif; font-size: 16.6667px; left: 567.604px; top: 327.385px; transform: scaleX(0.912172);">2) Most high-rises have fire suppression systems (water sprinklers), which further prevent a fire from releasing sufficient energy to heat the steel to a critical failure state; </div></blockquote>True enough as far as it goes, but it omits one critical detail: when WTC-2 (the South Tower) collapsed, it took the water mains with it, and thus there were no sprinklers running in WTC-1 and WTC-7 to prevent the fires from spreading.&nbsp; As a practical matter, I suspect that the sprinklers in WTC-1 and WTC-2 were already not functioning after the plane impacts, but even if they were they would have been insufficient to put out the massive fires in those two buildings.<br /><br />But after that, the errors and omissions abound.&nbsp; Next paragraph:<br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">3) Structural members are protected by fireproofing materials, which are designed to prevent them from reaching failure temperatures within specified time periods; and </blockquote>Ignores the obvious, which is that the impact of the plane debris stripped away a good deal of the fireproofing.&nbsp; This is the usual Truther nonsense of focusing solely on the fires and not considering the enormous energy released by the two 757s (correction: <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/12/screw-loose-change-respond-to-jones-et-al/">767s</a>) when they hit the two towers.<br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div data-canvas-width="145.77419999999998" style="font-family: serif; font-size: 16.6667px; left: 567.604px; top: 481.268px; transform: scaleX(0.96316);">4) Steel-framed high-rises are designed to be highly redundant structural systems. Thus, if a localized failure occurs, it does not result in a disproportionate collapse of the entire structure.</div></blockquote>Which ignores the unusual tube-in-tube design of the towers, which were not as capable of shifting the enormous loads they encountered on 9-11 as conventional skyscrapers.<br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div data-canvas-width="169.60514999999998" style="font-family: serif; font-size: 16.6667px; left: 195.051px; top: 811.018px; transform: scaleX(0.95168);">The total collapse of WTC 7 at 5:20 PM on 9/11, shown in Fig. 2, is remarkable because it exemplified all the signature features of an implosion: The building dropped in absolute free fall for the first 2.25 seconds of its descent over a distance of 32 meters or eight stories [3]. Its transition from stasis to free fall was sudden, occurring in approximately one-half second. It fell symmetrically straight down. Its steel frame was almost entirely dismembered and deposited mostly inside the building’s footprint, while most of its concrete was pulverized into tiny particles. Finally, the collapse was rapid, occurring in less than seven seconds.</div></blockquote>All the signature features of an implosion?&nbsp; Sorry, Dr Jones, but I have watched quite a few controlled demolition implosions of buildings before and there were several missing from WTC-7's collapse on 9-11:<br /><br />1. No deafening explosions of the shaped charges which (Jones admits) are usually used in controlled demolitions.<br /><br />2. No prior removal of the glass and other materials which might impede the collapse (not to mention the belongings inside the buiding.<br /><br />3. No miles of detonation cord as is commonly used to ensure the simultaneous (or nearly) loss of load-bearing supports to the building.<br /><br />And of course, when it comes to the towers, the usual focus on why the NIST report didn't go past the moment that collapse became inevitable:<br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div data-canvas-width="353.16394429999997" style="font-family: serif; font-size: 16.6667px; left: 567.604px; top: 1250.69px; transform: scaleX(0.892467);">Whereas NIST did attempt to analyze and model the collapse of WTC 7, it did not do so in the case of the Twin Towers. In NIST’s own words, “The focus of the investigation was on the sequence of events from the instant of aircraft impact to the initiation of collapse for each tower....this sequence is referred to as the ‘probable collapsesequence,’ although it includes little analysis of the structural behaviour of the tower after the conditions for collapse initiation were reached and collapse became inevitable.”[5]</div></blockquote>Gee, I don't know, maybe it's because the collapse became, you know, inevitable?&nbsp; After that, there are too many variables to really measure, but it doesn't really matter.<br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div data-canvas-width="357.9975299999999" style="font-family: serif; font-size: 16.6667px; left: 567.604px; top: 1316.64px; transform: scaleX(1.01373);">Thus, the definitive report on the collapse of the Twin Towers contains no analysis of why the lower sections failed to arrest or even slow the descent of the upper sections—which NIST acknowledges “came down essentially in free fall” [5-6]—nor does it explain the various other phenomena observed during the collapses. When a group of petitioners filed a formal Request for Correction asking NIST to perform such analysis, NIST replied thatit was “unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse” because “the computer models [were] not able to converge on a solution.” </div></blockquote>&nbsp;If NIST really acknowledges that the Twin Towers came down "essentially in free fall" then bad on them.&nbsp; As for why the lower sections failed to arrest (they did slow) the descent of the upper floors, it is blindingly obvious: The floors were connected to the exterior and central columns of the building.&nbsp; As the weight from above collapsed on each floor, it pulled in on the connections until they snapped on the exterior.&nbsp; Very quickly the exterior portions of the building peeled away from the floors, leaving nothing to support them.&nbsp; This is why you can see, in aerial photographs of the devastation, large sections of the exterior walls virtually intact.<br /><br />The references section contains four footnotes from JONES, and one from the ridiculous Bentham paper.&nbsp; I hope that there will be some vigorous pushback on this article from the magazine's subscribers.http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2016/08/jones-co-beclown-european-physics-news.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (Pat)6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-390400250948550161Sun, 07 Aug 2016 22:59:00 +00002016-08-07T16:02:27.438-07:00DenialSeveral years ago I <a href="http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/search?q=lipstadt">posted </a>on Deborah Lipstadt's books Denying the Holocaust and History on Trial, so I am rather excited to see the latter has been made into a movie staring Rachel Weisz. I will be standing in line for this one.<br /><br /><br /><iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="255" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/hYcx43AmAyY" width="440"></iframe>http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2016/08/denial.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (James B.)1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-263188150982956705Fri, 15 Jul 2016 04:39:00 +00002016-07-14T21:40:49.146-07:00The Twenty Eight PagesThe 28 redacted pages of the Congressional 9/11 Report (not the 9/11 Commission as commonly misunderstood) has been under discussion for several months, now it appears it may finally be <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/news/28-pages-of-congressional-report-on-saudi-ties-to-911-to-be-released-soon/">released</a>.<br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq" style="background-color: white; color: #202022; font-family: Georgia, &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, Times, serif; font-size: 17px; line-height: 22.1px; margin-bottom: 15px;">Twenty-eight pages of a 2002 Congressional report on the September 11, 2001 terror attacks -- a section which contains information regarding alleged Saudi ties -- will soon be released, a Democratic source confirms to CBS News.<br />The Obama administration must first decide whether or not to declassify the material, according to the office of House Speaker Paul Ryan. But House and Senate leadership then decides whether or not to release the material, and -- if they do decide to do so -- when and how it will be distributed.<br />Ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff of California, weighed in on the possibility that the White House could declassify the previously redacted pages within the next couple of days.</blockquote><div style="background-color: white; color: #202022; font-family: Georgia, &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, Times, serif; font-size: 17px; line-height: 22.1px; margin-bottom: 15px;"></div>My prediction. These pages will shockingly show that Islamists on the Arabian Peninsula were behind the 9/11 attacks. http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2016/07/the-twenty-eight-pages.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (James B.)5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-3003496087100787945Sun, 01 May 2016 11:06:00 +00002016-05-05T01:08:28.849-07:00Has It Only Been Ten Years?&nbsp;A little more than a decade ago, I was looking for reviews of the then-current movie by Paul Greenglass, United 93.&nbsp; As it happened a few writers for the Huffington Post had been invited to the Tribeca premiere and they wrote glowing reviews of the film.&nbsp; But in the comments section I found numerous references to the internet sensation, Loose Change, which, I was assured would change my life forever.<br /><br />It was late on a Friday afternoon, and so I watched Loose Change and sure enough it changed my life forever.&nbsp; I wrote a <a href="http://brainster.blogspot.com/2006/04/united-93-nutbars-come-out-check-out.html">post about it on my main blog</a>, Brainster's:<br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">Let me put this as bluntly as possible. If you believe the vast conspiracy theory of <span style="font-style: italic;">Loose Change</span>, you are a nut. Ignoring for the moment the debunking provided by Popular Mechanics, consider that you would have to believe in a conspiracy involving hundreds of people concerning the biggest news event of this century so far, and that none of these people have come forward.</blockquote>&nbsp;As it happened, James B, a blogger whom I had cooperated with on a couple posts debunking the NY Times columnist Paul Krugman, sent me an email after my post, suggesting that we collaborate on a blog that he had already started, called <a href="http://loosechangeloosescrew.blogspot.com/">Loose Change, Loose Screw</a>.&nbsp; As the marketing genius that I am, I came up with a better title, Screw Loose Change, although I admit, that most people seemed to miss the "Screw Loose" part, and seemed to think that the blog title was only a middle finger to Dylan and the boys.<br /><br />What came next I certainly never predicted. We ended up with 10,000 hits in our first 24 hours.&nbsp; It turned out that there was a huge public (and media) demand for a site that debunked the ridiculous claims of Loose Change.&nbsp; Within the first few months, either James or I was interviewed on at least a dozen radio programs, including the BBC's World News Today.&nbsp; We were cited in the 9-11 Fifth Anniversary issues of Time and US News and World Report.<br /><br />In February of 2007, I collaborated with Stephen Lemons of the Phoenix New Times to break the story that a Chandler, Arizona, conference of the 9-11 kooks was being hosted by a holocaust denier named Eric D. Williams.&nbsp; Stephen was kind enough to six months later get me featured on the front cover of the Phoenix New Times, and no, I still haven't lost the beer belly, damnit!<br /><br />Reflections, ten years later?&nbsp; For starters, timing is everything.&nbsp; Debunking the 9-11 conspiracy theories (and blogging) was hot in 2006, and James and I hopped on top of a wave.&nbsp; We weren't the first (McKinney Sucks), and we weren't the best (Mark (Gravy) Roberts), but we showed up and got lucky.<br /><br />Nowadays the conspiracy theories about 9-11 have been relegated to the lunatic fringe.&nbsp; I'd like to take credit (along with James B, Gravy and others), but realistically they could never survive any kind of hard scrutiny, and they were doomed with Obama's election in 2008.<br /><br />Thanks to James B, and thanks to the many other debunkers who have done the hard work. For the most part, I admit I have been Nelson Muntz.http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2016/05/has-it-only-been-ten-years.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (Pat)0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-7435242787366152790Tue, 26 Apr 2016 18:50:00 +00002016-04-26T14:38:58.898-07:00Et Tu, Basile?The Troofers sure seem to be alchemists in reverse; they take gold and turn it into lead.&nbsp; Remember Truth Burn?&nbsp; A metal worker created a 9-11 Truth sign which he was going to burn with thermite at Burning Man.&nbsp; IIRC they raised about $20,000 for that one, and what did he do?&nbsp; Burn some thermite in a can.<br /><br />Basile seems quite <a href="http://www.markbasile.org/">reasonable by comparison</a>.&nbsp; He raised $5000 and what did he do?&nbsp; Well, nothing, as far as I can see:<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><blockquote class="tr_bq"><span style="background-color: yellow;">Mark </span><span style="background-color: yellow;">Basile</span><span style="background-color: yellow;"> is no longer associated with the project. <br />&nbsp;Please do not send any more donations. </span></blockquote><div style="text-align: left;">No mention of where the money went (or, for that matter, the dust samples).&nbsp; Also no mention of who is still "associated" with the project.<br /><br />Update: Well, that got results.&nbsp; Now Basile's status reads:<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><blockquote class="tr_bq">April 26, 2016:&nbsp; "I am working on it.&nbsp; I am doing the best I can." </blockquote></div></div></div>http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2016/04/et-tu-basile.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (Pat)2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-7332957739251570592Mon, 18 Apr 2016 01:42:00 +00002016-04-17T18:42:05.548-07:0028 Pages Plus Saudi Lawsuit in the NewsThere's definitely a linkage <a href="http://nypost.com/2016/04/17/how-us-covered-up-saudi-role-in-911/">between the two stories:</a><br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq"><blockquote class="tr_bq"><span style="font-family: inherit;">In its report on the still-censored “28 pages” implicating the Saudi government in 9/11, “60 Minutes” last weekend said the Saudi role in the attacks has been “soft-pedaled” to protect America’s delicate alliance with the oil-rich kingdom.</span></blockquote><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq"><span style="font-family: inherit;">That’s quite an understatement.</span></blockquote><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq"><span style="font-family: inherit;"></span><span style="font-family: inherit;">Actually, the kingdom’s involvement was deliberately covered up at the highest levels of our government. And the coverup goes beyond locking up 28 pages of the Saudi report in a vault in the US Capitol basement. Investigations were throttled. Co-conspirators were let off the hook.</span></blockquote></blockquote>And the 9-11 Families are hoping that the 28 pages get released because their attempted lawsuit against the <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3544355/9-11-families-furious-Obama-administration-siding-Saudi-Arabia-country-threatens-pull-750-billion-U-S-assets-government-holds-liable-2001-terrorist-attacks.html">Saudi government would undoubtedly</a> get a shot in the arm:<br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Until now,the Obama administration has so far refused to reveal the contents of the missing pages and looks to be leaving the decision to a Congressional vote. </span></span></blockquote><blockquote class="tr_bq"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Speaking to the <a class="" href="https://www.blogger.com/null" rel="nofollow" style="font-weight: bold;" target="_blank">New York Times,&nbsp;</a>Mindy Kleinberg, whose husband died in the World Trade Center on September 11 said:&nbsp;'It's stunning to think that our government would back the Saudis over its own citizens.' </span><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">&nbsp;</span></span><br /><br /><span style="font-size: 1.2em;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Ms. Kleinberg is part of a group of victims' family members pushing for the legislation against the Middle Eastern country, however so far all attempts to sue the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia have failed.</span></span></blockquote>&nbsp;I think the Saudi involvement is much less than billed.&nbsp; Osama had some credibility among wealthy Saudis after Soviet-Afghanistan war. and he was able to capitalize on that with his purported charity, the rather innocuously named "Social Services".&nbsp; Some wealthy Saudis, and probably even some royals donated to his group.<br /><br /><br />But, as Tom Kean pointed out years ago, the usual exhortation to follow the money in this case was useless, because the money involved was peanuts.&nbsp;<br /><br />The 60 Minutes report <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-911-classified-report-steve-kroft/">is transcribed here</a>. Note this especially annoying part:<br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">Steve Kroft: And when we say, "The Saudis," you mean the government, the--<br />Bob Graham: I mean--<br />Steve Kroft: --rich people in the country? Charities--<br />Bob Graham: All of the above.</blockquote>Hey, Kroft, shut up for a second after you say "You mean the government." By continuing to talk&nbsp; you weakened the argument being made.<br /><br />Kroft interviews several of the 9-11 commissioners who are in favor of releasing the report.&nbsp; But, as is typical of advocacy journalism (as compared to real reporting) he omits putting on camera anybody who opposes the release, although he quite obviously paraphrases Philip Zelikow's comments:<br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">Roemer and others who have actually read the 28 pages, describe them as a working draft similar to a grand jury or police report that includes provocative evidence -- some verified, and some not.</blockquote>I remain in favor of releasing the 28 pages.&nbsp; But the dishonest reporting by 60 Minutes actually makes me less comfortable with that position.http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2016/04/28-pages-plus-saudi-lawsuit-in-news.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (Pat)3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-5254451579174626731Fri, 05 Feb 2016 23:07:00 +00002016-02-05T15:07:00.798-08:00Mark Basile's Study "May" Be Ready This YearGotta give the Troofers credit <a href="http://markbasile.org/">on this one</a>; they have shown the patience of Job for Basile.<br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">I can tell you that Mark will most likely not be giving us regular updates, in the form of little progress reports, as we had initially planned. It just seems as if keeping any kind of schedule is not really an option for Mark, presumably due to time constraints. He did say at some point a few months ago that he was planning to take a little vacation to sort out the study, but that has not happened yet, as far as I know...<br /><br />It has always been extremely difficult to reach Mark but in recent months he has been even more reclusive than normal, and I suspect that a series of email/phone calling spamming from people I won´t mention is responsible for that.<br /><br />We will certainly notify our readers whenever we have something...and I would love to be able to give you some sort of a promise for results within a certain time-frame but I will have to refrain given past experience..<br /><br />Last autumn Mark sounded like he was about to make a big push to get things done but then some things got in the way, and again he indicated to Richard in Boston that he is about to get things done...but still no news.<br /><br />Personally I am fairly optimistic that he will have results for us this year, but I am not making any promises.</blockquote>Let's remember that he raised the $5000 needed for the study over 2 years ago.&nbsp; He's going to make NIST's report on Building 7 look rushed. http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2016/02/mark-basiles-study-may-be-ready-this.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (Pat)204tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-4759724181412685657Sun, 31 Jan 2016 18:33:00 +00002016-02-02T09:38:18.693-08:00The Mathematical Improbability of Large Conspiracy TheoriesOne of the points we have always tried to make here is that although conspiracies certainly happen, any conspiracy more complex than a burglary or assassination involving half a dozen people inevitably becomes exposed. The Truthers on the other hand create these theories involving the ridiculously complex cooperation of thousands of people across dozens of different organizations, often for no other reason than that they need it to be so in order to fit their pet theory.<br /><br />A <a href="http://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2016-01-26-too-many-minions-spoil-plot">British academic</a> explores this fact in more scientific terms:<br /><br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">If you’re thinking of creating a massive conspiracy, you may be better scaling back your plans, according to an Oxford University researcher. While we can all keep a secret, a study by Dr David Robert Grimes suggests that large groups of people sharing in a conspiracy will very quickly give themselves away. The study is published online by journal PLOS ONE.</blockquote>http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2016/01/the-mathematical-improbability-of-large.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (James B.)45tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-4872669408393144685Thu, 28 Jan 2016 01:47:00 +00002016-01-30T13:46:56.269-08:00He's Baaaaa-aaaack!<div class="ytp-html5-clipboard">Dylan is out with yet another version of Loose Change: </div><div class="ytp-html5-clipboard"></div><div class="ytp-html5-clipboard"><iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="255" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/RlgpSxKKzdM" width="440"></iframe></div><div class="ytp-html5-clipboard"></div><div class="ytp-html5-clipboard">I can't even remember how many versions there have been: 1,2,2e,Final Cut, American Coup, and I'm sure I've forgotten one or two.</div><div class="ytp-html5-clipboard"></div><div class="ytp-html5-clipboard">I doubt I'll be reviewing this one any time soon. It's more interesting to see the physical changes in the two.&nbsp; Dylan actually looks like he's graying, and I would not recognize Korey if I saw him on the street.<br /><br />Update: And right on cue, Box Boy Gage is back with another look at his "experiment that changed the world."<br /><br /><div class="ytp-html5-clipboard"><iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="280" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/FvuKUmK9eB0" width="480"></iframe></div><div class="ytp-html5-clipboard"></div><div class="ytp-html5-clipboard">Nice paneling; I assume it's at somebody's Tahoe ski lodge. Pretty big of him to take time out from his busy day to provide amusement for us.</div></div>http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2016/01/hes-baaaaa-aaaack.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (Pat)4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-2493853861941244876Mon, 28 Dec 2015 19:42:00 +00002015-12-28T11:42:39.771-08:00Jesse Ventura and Michael ShermerOnly a bit on 9/11, but skeptic Michael Shermer and conspiracy theorist extraordinaire Jesse Ventura have what actually is a relatively amiable <a href="http://www.ora.tv/offthegrid/2015/12/23/michael-shermer-interview-0_5yibr85ojloi">conversation</a>.http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2015/12/jesse-ventura-and-michael-shermer.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (James B.)4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-5910649531330218722Sat, 21 Nov 2015 14:50:00 +00002015-11-21T06:50:39.337-08:00Boston Globe Did the Unthinkable?That's Box Boy Gage's headline on a recent post at 9-11 Flogger, followed by the thrilled mention that the unthinkable was that the Globe gave them some "ink".&nbsp; No surprise, what Gage only hints at is that the ink <a href="https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2015/11/16/the-truthers-and/Y3RrUaEHaOakG60crFM9bK/story.html">was dipped in</a> with a poison pen:<br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">It’s hard to understand how Asner, an early 9/11 “truther” who has suggested that investors profited from 9/11, or the running gag line that is Geraldo Rivera, also featured in the video, add to the group’s credibility. “We’re not using Geraldo for our credibility,” Gage told me, “We’re using our appearance on mainstream media [Fox News] to gain credit for our cause.”</blockquote>Credit/credibility; potato potahto.&nbsp; What Gage won't or can't admit is that his appearance on Whorealdo didn't give him any credit; it just removed any last shred of credit that Rivera had remaining after the Secrets of Al Capone's Vault.http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2015/11/boston-globe-did-unthinkable.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (Pat)92tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-6859726514824236315Sat, 24 Oct 2015 01:32:00 +00002015-10-23T18:32:12.853-07:00Interview With a SurvivorOur Italian debunking buddies interview a man who was visiting the 64th floor of the South Tower when the first plane hit, and in the stairwell when the second plane hit his building.&nbsp; Some interesting details about <a href="http://undicisettembre.blogspot.com/2015/10/world-trade-center-interview-with.html">the security situation</a>:<br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">When you go through the lobby you had to get your picture taken and they were giving you a card with your picture and the date and what floors you were supposed to be on, with that card you could go to the elevators and go to whatever floor you were designated to. They really had good security at the World Trade Center. I went up to the 64th floor of the South Tower, I talked to the receptionist and she brought me to the conference room where my meeting was meant to begin at 8 o'clock, I think we started a little bit late like 8:05. </blockquote>Unlikely to convince the Troofers that security was too tight for their fanciful thermite emplacement, but then again nothing is going to sway them.<br /><br />http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2015/10/interview-with-survivor.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (Pat)48tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-362356622812638209Wed, 16 Sep 2015 22:35:00 +00002015-09-16T15:35:17.346-07:00Sad, Pathetic, Lonely Lives....Obviously a <a href="http://www.ibtimes.com/911-conspiracy-theories-inside-lonely-lives-truthers-still-looking-their-big-break-2091474">cheerful article</a> on the Truthers:<br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">He sighed and said no one in his family shared his understanding of 9/11, nor did any of his friends. “I basically can’t talk about it.”<br />I asked what it’s like for him to be the only person he knows who thinks this way. He paused for a long time and began to tear up.<br />“I would say it’s really lonely.”</blockquote>And Bob McIlvaine:<br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">“It’s brutal. I will never volunteer to talk about it,” Mcllvaine said. “In my circles, people ignore it. It’s like I’m a leper. I don’t see many people anymore.” He says his wife supports him, but doesn’t want to talk about how Bobby died. She says it doesn’t matter, even if his theories are true, because it won’t bring her son back. “If she started talking about that she wouldn’t have any friends.” </blockquote>Who wouldn't want to be a Truther?<br /><br />&nbsp;One item of interest:<br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">&nbsp;Near the end of our conversation, even Gage confessed he misses his life before 9/11 Truth.</blockquote><blockquote class="tr_bq">“It is tiring after nine&nbsp;years, I have to say,” he said. “I am an architect, I’d rather be practicing architecture. I’ve been full time as a 9/11 Truth activist for five&nbsp;years and <i>I’m looking forward to going back to architecture</i>. I make more money, I have more fun.”</blockquote>Italics added for emphasis.&nbsp; Not sure if he's throwing in the towel or not; he goes on to say. "But the future of my country is at stake," which could certainly be interpreted as meaning that he can't give up the fight. <br /><blockquote class="tr_bq"></blockquote><br />http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2015/09/sad-pathetic-lonely-lives.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (Pat)35tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-1324936269855766259Sat, 18 Jul 2015 01:41:00 +00002015-07-17T18:41:13.563-07:00Gold to Chomsky: Yes, I'm a Kook, But You Don't Have to BeJon posts his <a href="http://911blogger.com/news/2015-07-10/jon-gold-corresponds-noam-chomsky-about-911-july-2015">correspondence with the Noamster</a> over at Flogger.&nbsp; As usual, he starts out Mr I Just Have Questions:<br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq"> Again, I'm not going to talk to you about theories. I want to primarily talk about how important it is to acknowledge that we were lied to about 9/11, and how important it is for those with a voice to do their best to inform the public of that.</blockquote>&nbsp;But it's not long before he gets into the kookery:<br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">It's not about proving that the Government did it. Unfortunately, there is information that exists out there that suggests such a thing. I didn't create this information out of thin air. It is not a figment of my imagination.</blockquote>&nbsp;No, it's largely a figment of the imagination of Nico Haupt, Rosalee Grable, and all the other original researchers who came up with this crap.&nbsp; Gold has contributed nothing to the movement but his creation of the "limited hangout" where one pretends not to be a conspiracy theorist while really being a CT nutbar inside.http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2015/07/gold-to-chomsky-yes-im-kook-but-you.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (Pat)84tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-8305922240459229192Thu, 21 May 2015 00:55:00 +00002015-05-20T17:58:53.040-07:00But Of Course....The ONI released a bunch of information on Bin Laden's compound today, including a list of <a href="http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bin-laden-bookshelf-al-queda-leader-was-avid-9-11-conspiracy-theories-reader-1502212">books </a>that were found, some of them, not so surprising:<br /><br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">The release shows that the 9/11 mastermind was an avid reader of conspiracy theory books, with titles including: Bloodlines of the Illuminati by right-wing author Fritz Springmeier; The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9/11 by the 9/11 truther David Ray Griffin; Conspirators' Hierarchy: The Committee of 300 by John Coleman; and The Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins, an anti-Semitic writer. </blockquote><br />Although reading someone who claims he didn't do what he did must have presented some interesting existential questions, as well as bringing to mind the classic Onion video.<br /><br /><br /> <iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Q_OIXfkXEj0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2015/05/but-of-course.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (James B.)80tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-8644807997383391160Sun, 17 May 2015 23:36:00 +00002015-05-17T16:36:23.919-07:00AE911 Truth Fails, AgainThe <a href="http://911blogger.com/news/2015-05-16/results-are-overwhelming-majority-aia-delegates-make-political-decision-and-vote-down-resolution-15-6#comments">Troofers </a>were all excited that they got a vote held at the Americans Institute of Architects annual meeting, unfortunately it failed by the overwhelming vote of 3,892 to 160. &nbsp;AE911 Truth claims over 100 of their members are in the AIA, which means that they barely managed to get votes from any &nbsp;other architects at all.<br /><br /><br /> <iframe width="180" height="160" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/wGdhc9k07Ms" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2015/05/ae911-truth-fails-again.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (James B.)126tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-22454403727674580Fri, 03 Apr 2015 19:22:00 +00002015-04-03T12:25:25.339-07:00Jonathan Kay on the Gold ShowJonathan Kay appears on Jon Gold's tendentiously named "We Were Lied to About 9-11" podcast.<br /><br /><iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="215" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/QmVMy7KX81g" width="440"></iframe><br /><br />No surprises here; Gold does his usual schtick. We're just asking questions, we represent the family members, I invented the term "Truther" so I get to define what it means, blahblahblah. Never mind that the Truth Movement he belongs to has a membership of exactly one person (himself). And never mind that when you get right down to it he's every bit the kook that David Icke and Webster Tarpley are; he's just a little more skilled at doing the shuck and jive. Towards the end of the podcast he reiterates his claim to Matt Taibbi that elements of the US government had "more than earned the title of suspect" for the crimes of 9-11.<br /><br />Screw Loose Change gets mentioned about 46 minutes in, and no surprise again, Jon lies about us, claiming that Troy from West Virginia was a "star poster" over here. Troy never posted here once; he was a commenter, which is a completely different thing. I did not approve of Troy's harassment of 9-11 Truthers.<br /><br />Kay does a solid job of keeping on message. I do like that he agreed with Jon that the 28 redacted pages from the congressional enquiry should be released; so far I have heard almost nobody say otherwise. I did wince a bit at the part about the workers on the pile; Gold claimed that over 1000 of them have died which (no surprise) is bull.http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2015/04/jonathan-kay-on-gold-show.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (Pat)41tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-643411912315645231Sat, 28 Mar 2015 20:13:00 +00002015-03-28T13:13:44.875-07:00Neils Harrit Loses, AgainThe Truther sites have been pretty quiet about it, I have only found a mention on a couple of <a href="http://journalisten.dk/landsretten-soeren-villemoes-maa-gerne-kalde-niels-harrit-tosse">Danish </a>news sites, but it appears that Harrit lost his libel appeal against a journalist who called his beliefs the Danish equivalent of a crackpot. So go forward with the knowledge that from now on you may wander the small Scandinavian nation freely calling 9/11 conspiracy theories crackpot with impunity.http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2015/03/neils-harrit-loses-again.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (James B.)16tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-5167944145467129999Tue, 24 Mar 2015 03:38:00 +00002015-03-23T20:39:27.303-07:00Niels Harrit in CourtThe Truthers are all excited over Niels Harrit suing a Danish journalist for libel. By their <a href="http://www.ae911truth.org/news/207-news-media-events-danish-high-court-harrit.html">accounts </a>it is going, swimmingly.<br /><br /><br /><blockquote>Harrit referred to the historical court case against Galileo Galilei in 1633, where the accused was brought in front of the inquisition of the Roman Catholic Church and tortured until he renounced his belief that the earth rotated around the sun and acknowledged that the earth was the center of the universe. </blockquote><blockquote>When he concluded his procedure, there was no doubt that Dr. Harrit had made an impact upon the High Court. The three judges looked as if they approved the legal points he made, and both Villemoes and his lawyer appeared a bit shaken.</blockquote>Who knows who will actually win, European libel laws are decidedly less liberal than in the US, but perhaps Harrit should note that unlike Galileo, he is not the defendant, he is the one doing the suing. Regardless a Danish <a href="http://911facts.dk/?page_id=7023">skeptic </a>had a rather less favorable report of the trial. <br /><blockquote>Harrit pointed to a Danish law against libel, §2672, and Article 10 in the European Human Rights Convention3 (on freedom of expression). He admitted to not being an expert on law, but made the argument that Villemoes had to produce evidence that he, Harrit, was a crackpot. Harrit proved himself right, when it came to him not having expertise in law: </blockquote><blockquote>Despite the judges being very lenient with him, he had to be schooled by the head judge on not to make his closing argument during his questioning of the witnesses. Later, she had to tell him not to badger the defendant, Søren Villemoes, while the latter was on the stand, being questioned by Harrit. Harrit would not be allowed to ask insinuating questions.&nbsp;</blockquote><blockquote>Among other things, Harrit claimed that there had been no judicial or police investigation of the terror attacks. He did not mention the trial of Zacharias Moussaoui who was sentenced to life in prison for his role in the attacks, a trial that Harrit is fully aware of</blockquote>http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2015/03/niels-harrit-in-court.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (James B.)17tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-7119234838771434786Wed, 18 Feb 2015 09:28:00 +00002015-02-18T01:28:32.713-08:00Bits and PiecesIt's <i>de minimus</i>, but I can't help poking fun at the title of Jon Gold's <a href="http://911blogger.com/news/2015-01-22/you-can-t-point-finger-saudi-arabia-and-not-have-5-fingers-pointing-back-us">post at 9-11flogger</a>:<br /><br /><b>You Can’t Point A Finger At Saudi Arabia, And Not Have 5 Fingers Pointing Back To The U.S.</b><br /><br />Yes, if you have seven fingers on that hand. Of course the classic quotation is that you can't point a finger at someone else and not have three fingers pointing back at you.<br /><br />Fruitcake Fran Shure gets an <a href="http://washingtonparkprofile.com//index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=3195&amp;Itemid=44">overly credulous article</a> published about her in the local shopper.&nbsp; Love this intro:<br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">Right after 9/11, I remember talking to my women’s group and saying I just don’t think this could have happened without someone knowing about it and allowing it to,” says Fran Shure. “It was totally intuitive, because I knew nothing. </blockquote>&nbsp;It's called Dunning-Kruger and it's nothing to be proud of, Fran.<br /><br />Meanwhile, <a href="http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=d03bf3ffcac549c7dc7888ef5&amp;id=a49e41d742&amp;e=">Tony Zamboni remembers</a> seeing a documentary on the History Channel where Larry Silverstein admitted controlled demolition at WTC-7, and no, this is not the pull-it video:<br /><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">Unlike other History series, "History's Business" episodes are not available to the public for purchase, nor can a complete listing of its past episodes be found on the Internet. In the interview we're searching for, Silverstein, whose Silverstein Properties owns WTC 7, was asked by the show's guest host, "<b>What happened to 7?</b>" <br /><br />Silverstein's unforgettable reply: "<b>Building 7 was a controlled demolition for safety reasons</b>," according to an engineer who was watching the program that morning. Until that point, the engineer had been "perplexed as to why Building 7 had completely collapsed so quickly and so symmetrically." For that reason, Silverstein's answer is still emblazoned in his memory. </blockquote>As you can see, AE 9-11 Troof takes this very seriously and is offering a $200 reward to anyone who can find the missing episode.&nbsp; What a shame that VCRs weren't invented back in 2002 or 2003 or 2004 (years where Zamboni claims to remember the show). I'm going to take a wild guess that no tape will show up.&nbsp; Indeed, the $200 reward would have to be increased to $2000 or more to make it worth somebody's time to dummy it up.&nbsp; <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2015/02/bits-and-pieces.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (Pat)14tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-1362467928037297582Mon, 02 Feb 2015 04:00:00 +00002015-02-01T20:01:28.858-08:00Another Truther Hero Reveals His Feet of ClayJames talked yesterday about Pete Carroll's foolish 9-11 ramblings from a couple years back, and how the Truthers at ASU revered him as a hero.&nbsp; No surprise, today Carroll revealed that he is also an idiot in play selection.<br /><br />I was watching the game and after the fantastic reception by Kearse, I turned to the guy next to me and said, "They'll give the ball to Lynch four times in a row if needed; no way Wilson throws another pass."&nbsp; My prediction looked pretty solid when Marshawn took the ball down to the one on the initial play.<br /><br />And even after the interception the game was not over, but then that #72 for Seattle encroached with New England up against the goal line.&nbsp; That guy has been offsides so many times this postseason it's getting to be a joke--I think he was flagged on two consecutive plays in their first-round game.http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2015/02/another-truther-hero-reveals-his-feet.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (Pat)28tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-1632544368923288943Sat, 31 Jan 2015 19:38:00 +00002015-02-01T10:59:46.119-08:00The Twelfth Man's ShameHaving grown up in Washington State, I've been a Seahawks fan since I was an infant. Unfortunately we have had to put up with our coach's <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/seahawks/2015/01/29/pete-carroll-911-sept-11-truth-movement-truthers/22556683/">ill-thought-out comments</a> which have drawn truther interest.<br /><br /><br /><blockquote>Pete Carroll is a conspiracy theorist, at least that is how the conspiracy theory goes. And it is one that has gained the Seattle Seahawks coach an unlikely following from the "9/11 Truth" movement in the lead-up to his attempt to win back-to-back Super Bowls. </blockquote><blockquote>Two years ago, Carroll met with former Army chief of staff and four-star general Peter Chiarelli and, according to Deadspin citing "sources," brought up many popular conspiracy theories concerned with the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, on the World Trade Center and quizzed Chiarelli about their veracity.</blockquote>Yeah, keep your silly speculation to yourself coach. Leave the super-sekrit-magico-nano-thermite to the Truthers. The only explosions that matter right now concern the Legion of Boom. <br /><br /><br /><iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="180" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7PH35C7Fhq0" width="320"></iframe><br /><br />Update: <br /><br />AE911Truth is latching on to this idiotic quote as part of a mailing campaign. &nbsp;Of course they are missing the obvious difference, that deflating the footballs, if it even happened, would quite simply only require the cooperation of one or two people, quarterback Tom Brady and the equipment manager. Various permutations of Truther fantasies however require the complicity of the military, several intelligence agencies, the FBI, the NYPD, the Secret Service, dozens of explosives technicians, much of the media, NIST, Congress, various members of two presidential administrations and the terrorists themselves. In fact entire sections of the University of Phoenix stadium itself could be filled to capacity with the conspirators.<br /><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-B30o__OSDW0/VM5226aOzFI/AAAAAAAAAsk/rASgan-AWW8/s1600/Pete.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-B30o__OSDW0/VM5226aOzFI/AAAAAAAAAsk/rASgan-AWW8/s1600/Pete.jpg" height="179" width="320" /></a></div><br />http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2015/01/the-twelfth-mans-shame.htmlnoreply@blogger.com (James B.)186