Wrong - actually, it isn't recognized. You need that sleep to let the kernel recognize the device.

It's the boot loader that loads the initramfs and the kernel - remember?

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I can confirm that sleep=10 in menu.lst was sufficient to get a savefile to create.....

however, since creation the boot sequence gets all the way to the login prompt (only error message shown which might be significant just after "Loading save file ... done" it says:
ln: /mnt/union/mnt/home/sdb1: Operation not permitted
)

I type root and a lot of error messages flash up (unreadable) and then the screen blanks to grey and the laptop is dead.

Regarding the save files file system - it can be anything, as long as you can create it from the initramfs. I think I could change this so save files are created at shutdown (so you don't have to put big packages in the initramfs) ... any thoughts?

Thoughts - mostly along the lines of ; MHHP, read (all of) the relevant scripts once more, before posting half-witted replies ! Yes, of course, it's all there - create_save_file is just an auxiliary script to create a default-FS save-file, unless one is pre-created .

Very nice explanation! /etc/profile should be executed by the login shell, as far as I know.

Regarding /mnt/home - it's there as a handy symlink to the save partition, for two reasons:
- You don't want every script to guess which partition is used for persistency.
- You don't have to remember its name.

There are many new features and improvements to roar-ng, most notably:
- Hybrid ISO image - you can write them directly to USB drives and there you have live-USB sticks!
- The long-anticipated user manual
- Bug fix for the D-Bus pidfile issue
- /mnt/home is now removed by the init script, since it is kept in the save file and causes a small error
- /etc/rc.update takes a few seconds on the first run, but doesn't slow down the boot process anymore on consequent runs

For all those who use roar-ng at the moment:
- I updated some packages and removed the old ones - we don't like legacy stuff!
- I removed hnb and Yad, since the former isn't very useful (after all, we've got Xpad and TuDu) and the latter isn't used by roar-ng, so it's a waste of space.
- I'm currently testing version 004, which seems pretty good now. I think I'll wait with implementing "full" mode (e.g saving to a partition) and upload it today, in its stable form.
- I added Geany to the repository

EDIT: updated the kernel from version 3.0.22 to version 3.0.23. I really like this approach, of sticking to the most recent long-term support kernel version - we get "free" security and stability updates every week or so!

Also, I implemented "full" mode in about 5 lines of code, untested. I'll do some basic testing ... then it's time to upload the latest and greatest roar-ng 004.

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Anyway I tried your ISO as a potential build base but my Geforce graphics card is not supported by your default boot?

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In fact, you can build for another architecture, but in order to compile packages using roar-ng, you'll need to run it on that architecture, through any distro.

EDIT: Nouveau is included in the Subito kernel, so GeForce cards are OK'ish.

Regarding a Debian base - it doesn't matter on which distro you run roar-ng - packages built using it are cross-compiled within the distro you build anyway._________________My homepageMy GitHub profile

In fact, you can build for another architecture, but in order to compile packages using roar-ng, you'll need to run it on that architecture, through any distro..

Many thanks
Will run through Debian and as displaying on HDMI TV, graphic card probs should be circumnavigated..
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Upon fsck:ing my roar-ng-build's save-file (ext2), there are many FS_errors ...

Right, there is a sequential mounting of file-systems, which are unioned by aufs at / - then if load_sfs is run for e.g. devx.sfs, there is another mountpoint remounted ro in the aufs-tree at / .

How to disentangle this mess, for to cleanly unmount /mnt/save and /mnt/home_partition, by unmounting/remounting backwards? Is it possible? The woof-builds unmount save-files and home-partitions cleaner, irrespective of any fsck run at re-boot, than my roar-ng builds.

Can a cleaner unmount of save-file and home-partition be achieved by a remount,ro of the aufs-tree, or even tricked by a blunt, non-remounted ro, sync;umount -l?

I did read the aufs and aufs-utils documentation and, I must admit, I ended up non-the wiser ...

However, I don't think it's possible to cleanly unmount the Aufs file system because it's the file system root. I'll take a look at this on this weekend.

I've been thinking - maybe we should revert back to the old behavior - make create_save_file manual and put it in the main file system, so the user can create a save file with any file system (since the required tools are there)._________________My homepageMy GitHub profile

Also, as I may remember, there is a Manual/Guide floating around somewhere; is there a link to it (I may have missed that in the OP)

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