A little cutting, but indeed. I personally rated CD as a decent player.

It was the forums he had access to that were more important, and we saw him as a weakness in the chain given he was so... erm puerile (at the time at least, he is probably a pipe smoking, velvet jacket wearing gentleman these days)

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If I remember correctly, the TuF strategy forums were mainly strategies I wrote up myself, not stuff ganked from other guilds...although there were certainly things in there that I probably learned through Mach's infiltration. But I wouldn't say strategy stealing was really a real thing for us...it was more about the rush of being a double agent and belonging to something so hidden in plain sight. I remember the days where a bunch of us would log onto the servers under our TuF aliases, with the ! replacing the i's...memories.

I enjoyed TuF. I enjoyed their vision, their intent to infiltrate. I enjoyed tracking them, knowing who they were, what they were doing. And I was content to keep my mouth shut, because it was just so much fun watching them slink around, thinking they were being stealthy. But when it impinged on an honest, skill-based competition, I could no longer still my tongue. It simply wasn't fair to everyone else to not let them know.

But before that, you guys were funny. Grank and I had many conversations about you that ended in tears of laughter. Thanks for the laugh.

You unravelled it in the end, LR you'll always have that (still mounted on a plaque on your bedroom wall I imagine)

Saying you knew who we all were all along is a total fabrication, strangely stated here to satiate your moribund ego years and years after the event. Clap clap old chap.

I suppose you are entitled to remember whatever version of events you like, true or not.

No, I knew who most of (not all) who you were when you approached CD, and I started investigating you. Maybe you've forgotten, but when Grank and I called you out on your involvement in TurfWars, we gave you three whole days to respond, and you didn't, so I posted a nearly complete roster of your membership. Of course, you were outraged, but it was only fair. So yeah, no fabrication, simply investigation.

Throughout 1.4 if you went up against TuF & Phae on public servers you were up against a guild operating in a competitive manner. A team that utilised TS, were organised, certainly seasoned with active tactics and basically would through the vote functionality, only stack up against the enemy and not themselves. Normally the public players were not equal in this respect.

1.7 is not only a broken Thievery where the controls for "no console" and "no weapon" seem to have become faulty, with "clear item" disappearing also. We have a game where the shop feature has altered both the amounts of items you can buy therefore changing the time maps can be rushed in or DM lamed for those reliant upon their items to perform in either manner that they had done for quite some time. Also a game where mixing potions is no longer allowed and both the hook and scarab have changed it, to simply something with greater diversity of opportunity favouring thieves, even against some fairly unnatural possibilities. We have trap amounts that the current players express as excessive or necessary to stand a chance, given map balance and other common recurring aspects of play, being that of player count and the balance of experience. All proving this new balancing act of 1.7's items being anything but simple, although an absolute blast of a time to play with. This highlighted where certain maps could benefit from redesign as they haven’t taken the new items maintaining balance smoothly and were perhaps a bit tight already.

A majority of players especially those who I'm highlighting wouldn't be of much use on the thief team today, but I'd still put nothing as impossible past Machine. The edge TUF had and manner in which key TUF members operated during 1.4 was loadout reliant, with the focus of rushing simultaneously as a group IE Gabe and Dragon on any given day. Effective, but now with such a severely restricted game, as a playstyle simply infeasible or of considerably less power. The more natural on the fly ability is the current trend requirement of most matches with team work as key, dependant on the player count and level of organisation of the opposing team. Some of us reading this are still out there playing TUT and we are laughing because back then, was literally ten something years ago? and we can recall the matches.

Apart from one or two pathetic selfish individuals behind a proxy, who can't take credit for his/her actual abilities. As they appear to not wish being equal to everyone else sharing the game or their screen with us for that matter. It is still a far different game today than it was long ago and I'd love to see the old lot back literally running for their lives even if for one night only.

I’d certainly prefer to have a new Thievery over that if anyone’s offering? which allows for NB's concept on certain maps or as a game type but not the game's focus. At the discretion of a server’s choice whether to rotate maps or that game type (like an era of change incorporated into Thievery) for that concept and therefore level of violence as choice. The day a musket rings out through the halls of Folly, without the choice for the previous vanilla triumph that Thievery is, will be the day Thievery was destroyed, you can't give thieves crossbows and have TUT, sorry it is a no.

I'm not sure what is funnier, that you are playing dumb not knowing what I'm referring to in the thread, or that you are trying to bait me like I'm still 17 years old with your 'grown up' condescending drivel about how you love me or love talking to me? (twice now, practically grooming)

Sorry did I say funnier, I meant sadder.

Keep talking yourself up LR, because we still laugh

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I'm not sure what is funnier, that you are playing dumb not knowing what I'm referring to in the thread, or that you are trying to bait me like I'm still 17 years old with your 'grown up' condescending drivel about how you love me or love talking to me? (twice now, practically grooming)

Sorry did I say funnier, I meant sadder.

Keep talking yourself up LR, because we still laugh

I honestly don't know what you're talking about. None of my posts have changed anything I've said. It's like you're still 17 nd screaming in my face like you used to.