What do you think will happen, on Dec. 21, 2012?

I think I will finally get off my arse and go and buy my wife a Christmas present................and on January 2nd 2013 she will return it from
whence it came and buy something that she really wanted.

Why would it need to show the galactic plane? We're presently several light years above it. Also, let me remind you of your claim:

At least 5 planets with the moon will be in direct alignment on that day with the Sun and Earth, this is a fact, it is undisputed.

You mention nothing about the galactic plane nor equator. Despite that we know we are nowhere near the galactic plane. We also know that all these
objects cannot be lined up with the galactic equator since they don't line up with each other. Then there's also the fact that none of these objects
can truly line up with the galactic equator since, once again, we are far away from the galactic plane. What will happen is an apparent alignment
between the Sun, Earth and the galactic center. However, this alignment occurs every year and has occurred on December 21st for the past few
decades.

EDIT: I do need to make a correction though. The pic I posted is from Stellarium, not JPL.

A collective sigh of relief and an anticipation of a new unknown unknown (as much as I hate to quote Donald Rumsfeld).

There's ART there in that creative space, and the possibility for humor and joy.

So I say to answer your question as to what will happen, is that we will laugh and all breath a sigh of relief, but looking back in a new light of
reason, ever increasing, we just might have the audacity to really laugh at our former self and conception of the world, and then hey you never know
what can happen in the twinkling of an eye..

I laugh over it even now, but it's a heartfelt, sorrowful laugh, and yet there IS a threshold point I swear, where what was once terribly sorrowful,
becomes in the final analysis the most humorous and joyfilled of experiences imaginable. I just hope we all get the joke before it's too late!

We are the light that shines in the darkness,
the human spirit rises,
and seeks to soar to new heights.

Join hands and the circle of joy, like children around the sacred fire and light of life (cosmic awareness atunemed with nature and truth, love and
light), and sing with me.. Kumbaya (which means "come by way of my Lord"). I'm serious. There's nothing ELSE to do!?

We're all royally screwed no matter what happens, but either, in the very best or, the worst possible way, our choice, but either way, the
"double-bind" eventally unravells until we do "get it", although unfortunately for them some have to learn the really hard, hard way, if ever, dooming
themselves to often large degrees in one very narrow POV of the world as some sort of terrible hellish nightmare and nothing more. The impure eyes of
their heart never sees God never has a chance to do so, nor to see in themselves God reflected back as love, a love so great it's inconchorable and
thus capable of overcoming all things, unto everlasting joy and happiness as the only rational or reasonable thing that is left worth doing and
experiencing!

Don't make the mistake. Make sure your lamps are trimmed and oil-filled in other words just in case the world and the cosmos does change in some suble
way, you wouldn't want to leave a stone cold heard under the sweaping of a nexus of love and forgiveness, how terrible that would be for those who
cannot mourn, or ever repent of their deluded, igorant self amid all its accompanying manifestations of misery, and complaint.

We must prepare ourselves for JOY, and immense HILARITY and laughter, and I mean on an emergency basis with the utmost sense of urgency!

Watching the audiance in that 50's video is hilarious! Umm.. they needed to up the JOY part perhaps a tad..

the other version

God Bless, Merry Christmas, and above all Happy New Year, and beyond!

NAM

It has a mysterious origin..

"Kumbaya" or "Kumbayah" (Gullah, "Come By Here" — "Kum ba yah") — is a Negro spiritual song from the 1930s. It enjoyed newfound popularity
during the folk revival of the 1960s and became a standard campfire song in Scouting and nature-oriented organizations.

The song was originally associated with human and spiritual unity, closeness and compassion

Origins
Come By Here / Kum Ba Ya / Kumbaya transcribed by the United States Library of Congress from a 1926 recording.The origins of the song are disputed.
Research in Kodaly Envoy by Lum Chee-Hoo has found that sometime between 1922 and 1931, members of an organization called the Society for the
Preservation of Spirituals collected a song from the South Carolina coast.[1] "Come By Heah", as they called it, was sung in Gullah, the creole
language spoken by the former slaves living on the Sea Islands of South Carolina and Georgia.[2] Between 1926 and 1928, four more versions of
traditional spirituals with the refrain "Come by Here" or "Come by Heah" were recorded in South Carolina and Georgia on wax cylinder by Robert Winslow
Gordon, founder of what became the American Folklife Center at the Library of Congress.[3] In May 1936, John Lomax, Gordon's successor as head of the
Library of Congress's folk archive, discovered a woman named Ethel Best singing "Come by Here" with a group in Raiford, Florida.[4]

These facts contradict the longstanding copyright and authorship claim of Reverend Marvin V. Frey.[1] Rev. Frey (1918–1992) claimed to have written
the song circa 1936 under the title "Come By Here," inspired, he claimed, by a prayer he heard delivered by "Mother Duffin," a storefront evangelist
in Portland, Oregon. It first appeared in this version in Revival Choruses of Marvin V. Frey, a lyric sheet printed in Portland, Oregon in 1939. Frey
claimed the change of the title to "Kum Ba Yah" came about in 1946, when a missionary family returned from Africa where they had sung Frey's version
and slightly changed the words. This family toured America singing the song with the text "Kum Ba Yah".[1] This account is contradicted by the fact
that a nearly identical Gullah version of the song was recorded almost two decades earlier. According to Samuel Freedman (The New York Times, November
20, 2010), the metamorphosis to the "African" word Kumbaya was explained in liner notes to a 1959 Pete Seeger album, but "no scholar has ever found an
indigenous word 'kumbaya' with a relevant meaning.".[5] Freedman goes on to discuss the usage of kumbaya as a term of political rhetoric.

[edit] Folk music revivalJoe Hickerson, one of the Folksmiths, recorded the song in 1957, as did Pete Seeger in 1958. Hickerson credits Tony Saletan,
then a songleader at the Shaker Village Work Camp, for introducing him to "Kumbaya" (Saletan had learned it from Lynn Rohrbough, co-proprietor with
his wife Katherine of the camp songbook publisher Cooperative Recreation Service, predecessor to World Around Songs).[6][7][8][9] Joe Hickerson later
succeeded Gordon at the American Folklife Center.[10] The song enjoyed newfound popularity during the American folk music revival of the early-to-mid
1960s, largely due to Joan Baez's 1962 recording of the song, and became associated with the Civil Rights Movement of that decade.

But what about 2012? Nope. Nada. Nothing. There aren’t any ‘alignments’, except for the normal conjunctions that happen every year. For a
good page on what exactly is meant by ‘alignments’ (and some of the pseudo-scientific claims about them) take a look at this page by Dr. Donald
Luttermoser at East Tennessee State University[2].

Just like the bath salt users stopped boasting about liking the acetone high, which was allowed to be called 'synthetic marijuana', after the face
eater episode in Florida, and all but disappeared, so too will all the doom porn freaks.

Correction....they'll latch on to a new doom fantasy. Probably start enjoying a new man made drug too. They can never get enough of this stuff, you
see.

The whole world was prophesied to think there would be something major happening, and everybody held their breath, and it was only after this date,
people got on with their lives. So, a whole bunch of # happened after 2012 and it heralded a change in the whole world.

What do you personally think will happen?

This just about sums it up. I'd be hoping for a wholesale shift away from being caught up in drama queen stuff like this, but there are too many
people who need bread and circus items to survive the numbing drone of corporeal existence for this colossal nonevent's failure to become a teachable
moment. It'll be on to the next date with destiny for most of them.

I'm not too good with the alignment stuff but I have a question. When they mean the Sun aligns with the centre of the Milky Way, instead of the annual
alignment, don't they actually mean the Sun moving across the Galactic Equator which could possibly be a cycle of its own that happens every 13,000
years or so?

Of the basic configuration as detailed, with reference to the crossing point of
the earth ecliptic line and the galactic equator, one may note then that visually, there will be an alignment of the earth, the sun, and the galactic
equator twice every year. In one instance, the earth will be between the sun and the galactic equator, and in another (exactly 6 months later) the sun
will be between the earth and the galactic equator. The 2012 AD alignment as is said to be associated with the Long Count calendar is of exactly this
type, being of the latter stated order: Earth > Sun > Galactic Equator, but critically, with one very important additional factor, which indeed makes
the entire arrangement far more complex and infrequent: The 2012 AD conjunction is one that involves the earth, sun, and the galactic equator,
specifically at a time when the earth is at the winter solstice (northern hemisphere) point of its orbit, at a seasonal extreme. Now, an event of this
sort certainly does not occur every year, but rather once only every 25800 years. And this is due to a very subtle celestial motion: precession.

while this does not show the planetary alignment i have seen it in stellarium, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. But for every site you
show me that supports your theory I can show you others to support mine. Either way take care and be well.

I think it is kind of like the "last hope" for the New Age movement in general - If you really think about it, the otherside is always there, you
can always work on your spiritual nature, and really, 2012 is really just a collective metaphor for our own times of "judgement" - and that, as
System Resistor, I resist, because God does not judge.

I had not taken into account your bo staff skills. That changes everything. So we are looking at a trans-dimensional shift prompted by Yellowstone
erupting, where you are the chosen one, who gets bitten by vampires and werewolves and becomes the abomination chosen one, and leads a repressive
rebel force into DC, and declares super martial law, where no one is allowed to do anything(except sit catatonic looking at designated Justin beaver
posters), in light of the impending mortal combat realm super imposing onto our reality, which of course you will have to fight off, in the form of a
fairy Guro...with 12 arms and 3 legs....and a tu tu

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Oh, god no!

Not Bieber!!!!

If there was a God then the first person wiped out from the Yellowstone eruption would be Justin Bieber.

In all seriousness I do believe that we are due from some sort of collapse. Economic collapse nudged on by a natural disaster would be my number one
guess. Or some sort of attack on our soil. Honestly I don't think it would take much to "end our world as we know it".

Before a thunderstorm, you see little flies roll on their backs, wriggle and die. Why? THe electrostatics from the storm messes up their tiny
minds.

It is said that the solar maximum will only harm electrical equipment, but is this true? Oneof the effects in taking drugs etc is to make the person
increasingly paraniod. Could this be a side effect of a solar maximum? We already see it with the obsession with the Police State and distrust of
Governemnt as well as Israel and iran wanting tonuke each other off the planet.

At the caveman level, yes, a few emn might have had a punch-up, but in todays world, armed with nukes, it could be catastrophic if everyone becomes,
slightly insane - paranoid and aggressive.

In short, everyone keeps on about "moving to a higher consciousness", but what if it is a move to a LOWER CONSCIOUSNESS - we all become thick,
ignorant, aggressive thugs, the sort of thing you'd expect from a socialist?

it is a loaded question, sure ive replied before but i have more to say. ive been putting lots of thought into this date for years and years now, im
almost sad the date is here because theres no longer any date to look forward too. (though im sure the doom porn will find another glamourous date,
but id rather be honest and say im addicted to the doom porn than lie and try convince you and myself) ive really found myself thinking on more of a
down to earth level, such as "should i stay home on the 20th and 21st? why? only because im not worried about aliens landing or pole shifts etc, im
more worried about civil unrest and people who DO believe its the end of the world. i wonder maybe i should call in sick to protect the family. the
only thing ive really "gained" from knowing and intensely researching this 2012 garbage is mental preparation. meaning i feel ready for the date.
others who havent prepared or have shrugged it off and havent done any research will be more prone to fall into panic mode.

i mean if people truly believe its the end of the world as the media portrays, then whats to stop them from just going from house to house to looting
and raping and killing whom they please, i mean why not? or whats to say the supermarket wont be out of food for a month as its all bought out. so you
see i find myself in more of a down to earth survival mode, really wondering "can i afford a months worth of food to stockpile on my paycheck to
paycheck income?" or "am i truly prepared to take someones life who intrudes into my home with the intent to take mine or a family members?"
questions like "am i mentally prepared to see the world go nuts and my family go nuts as i have to be the voice of reason?" its a very odd mix of
feelings because im truly ready to die if something extraordinary happens mass cataclysm, and im spiritually and mentally prepared to accept something
such as an alien landing or nwo, or non apocalyptic. so im completely prepared for the big stuff, but its the down to earth smaller things that really
worry me.

and if you read my former post i truly believe the only thing happening will be man made, so yeah i do plan on going to work the 22nd and forking out
tons of money for the materialistic holiday called xmas. alot of the fear goes beyond "2012" but also to 2013. ill be the first to admit i have
wasted alot of mental energy and reason on this 2012 nonsense, and im easily a doom porn addict. so come 2013 ill be facing a new world, a new look on
life, and its very scary to me. ive always had this dec 21st 2012 date as almost a security or comfort concept in my head, constantly getting stressed
over the years saying "only a few more years to go.. a couple years, a year, half a year, to now 2 months, to eventually its here and its gone."
then what? ive wasted all those years worried and preparing for some stupid date thats nothing more than social hype.

ive held myself back in life because of this date, its been a problem for me i wont lie.even now i find myself "trapped" by this date. so for me
personally dec 21st does offer an "end" to something, offers an end to me getting caught up in the bull, going through this i know i will not allow
myself to get caught up in it, the doom porn will always be there, but 2013 will find me with a rational mind, no longer giving into nonsense. i
really only can blame myself for giving into 2012 so much so that it controls my life in many ways, and for what? i mean if your time comes, your time
comes, and it doesnt matter how its delivered, whether a giant meteor, or 1 single misguided person who thinks the worlds going to end, barging into
the house and murdering me. sorry for the long rant, but i find myself just really facing this "fantasy date" with a very level headed view and i
can tell you this, all my studying, research, and imagination over the years, and believe me i have put in alot of time, has all led to this; i know
no more than the next guy what will happen 2 months from today, i truly dont. i know how to react to many scenarios, i know how to respond, but truly
i do not know, and i will be very grateful the 22nd. maybe disappointed in some way deep down, but grateful.

we miss the important things in life, were too busy on the fleeting material things. 2013 will find me focusing more on my relationship with God and
my family, stopping to smell the roses, what good lasting thing does money buy? so while 2012 i cannot tell you what happens, i can tell you what
happens on the 22nd, and that is rationalism hopefully, because the world has enough problems of its own without doom fantasy.

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