On the strength of Brighid45's glowing review in the course of a recent phone call, I decided to order me up some Scienca, since I was ordering Proberry caps anyway. I'm curious to hear from others who have tried Scienca. Brig says it is a great anti-inflammatory. If you take it, do you take it daily or just occasionally? In short, what's the skinny on Scienca?

"If you are on one of Dr. D's diets and it isn't joyful, you aren't doing it right."- moi

Ooookay, now that I've seen a page of search results on the word "Scienca", and a discussion on the pronunciation of "Scienca" and the meaning behind the name, I ask again: what are BTD community folks' experiences with taking this supplement? Thanks in advance...

"If you are on one of Dr. D's diets and it isn't joyful, you aren't doing it right."- moi

PT, it's difficult for me to quantify the effects of this one supplement. I was given Scienca by Dr. D and the shift and take 2 pills 2x per day. But, I take other supplements as well, along with protocols like membrane fluidizer and now I've added a little TC/ARA with grapefruit juice. So my supplements are ever changing.

I think if you could pinpoint one issue for yourself that is troublesome, not change anything elseabout your diet or add any new supplements but just add Scienca and monitor yourself, youmight be able to notice something. Not really knowing what to look for, I have to be honest in responding.....I don't see anything in the way of something specific changing....It's likely this is internal improvement that is invisible....maybe some beneficial epigenetic response/good cell turnover/removal of toxins/protection as in antioxidant benefits.

Collectively, many supplements were prescribed for me based on issues I presented to the shift/Dr. D at the clinic. My protocol keeps changing but Scienca has been constant for over 18 months..

Would love to give you some feedback. I know this is an awesome supplement or else I would notbe given 4 pills per day....but exactly what benefits I'm personally receiving....I dunno...still have achy knees...and still need to take extra boswellia on my own.

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Thanks, Chloe. You are right, when we are doing lots of things simultaneously to improve our health, it is sometimes hard to single out the effect(s), if any, of one of those things. Brighid told me on the phone that it is very powerful and particularly as an anti-inflamatory. I am just curious to hear from others who have used it as to what their experiences are/what effects they have noticed. Like you said, sometimes it is hard to pinpoint, but sometimes the effect(s)/impact(s) of one supplement do stand out.

"If you are on one of Dr. D's diets and it isn't joyful, you aren't doing it right."- moi

PT,I ordered Scienca for my DH many months ago. he has nerve, leg pain issues along with arthritis. he never took it! Currently he is eating cherries daily but also taking one Phloxicin a day. He has seen an improvement and I noticed he walks/stands straighter. I have thought about taking Scienca or Phloxicin myself just to see if I notice any difference in my well being. I may do that and report back....

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PT,I ordered Scienca for my DH many months ago. he has nerve, leg pain issues along with arthritis. he never took it! Currently he is eating cherries daily but also taking one Phloxicin a day. He has seen an improvement and I noticed he walks/stands straighter. I have thought about taking Scienca or Phloxicin myself just to see if I notice any difference in my well being. I may do that and report back....

thanks cajun....now maybe I'll add phyloxicin because I was happy to read that your DH got good results for issues that sound similar to mine....leg pain/nerve pain PLUS I also have achy knees. Will report back.

Edited to add... I had forgotten why I don't tolerate Phloxixin....the ginger oil gave me gastric reflux. I havemajor issues with strong forms of ginger....which is probably why I bought boswellia to use with Scienca instead. I find that gives me pretty good results.

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Yaeli, I don't think speculating about the naming of the supplement is going to tell me anything about people's experiences with it, which is what I am asking about.

I decided it would not be worthwhile for me.

I use turmeric regularly as a cooking spice and that is the main ingredient. Quercitin, a secondary ingredient, is in the onion normally present when I use turmeric. The bromelain (also secondary) may help absorption but I'm not concerned, as I get more than enough of the other things.

Okay--I know you already asked me about this, but I'll post my experience here anyway. I take Scienca as directed on the bottle (2 caps 2x daily). I have noticed a subtle but significant reduction in what joint pain I still have, especially my knees, since starting this regimen. I've also noticed that my histamine reactions are way down (makes sense, given the ingredients of the supplement). If I stop taking it, pain levels go up and I have much more trouble with exercise-related urticaria (which is a histamine reaction, basically). So for me, Scienca does exactly what Dr. D says it should do--reduces inflammatory response in a gentle but thorough way.

Actually, now that I think about it, and after reading what Brighid said about Scienca having a histamine controlling action, I did manage to make it through a rather pollen laden Spring seasonwithout overreacting as I had in the past. Perhaps this formula tempers the immune system is a verypowerful way through the mechanism of combined herbs which for me probably helped to manage an over-reactive immune system......But to give a testimony, I couldn't quantify this until thinking about allergens. Didn't help my achy knees but boswellia individually does help.... I now realizethat Scienca did contribute to a comfortable change of seasons, one with trees blooming, flowers and plants pollinating and I felt that I got through it pretty successfully. Even with a lot of mold in theair from a very rainy season I wasn't walking around with a stuffy nose or headache.

I guess that's what was so difficult to quantify. Didn't know what to look for to compare before/aftertaking this formula.

"The happiest people don't have the best of everything.....they know how to make the best of everything!"

Okay--I know you already asked me about this, but I'll post my experience here anyway. I take Scienca as directed on the bottle (2 caps 2x daily). I have noticed a subtle but significant reduction in what joint pain I still have, especially my knees, since starting this regimen. I've also noticed that my histamine reactions are way down (makes sense, given the ingredients of the supplement). If I stop taking it, pain levels go up and I have much more trouble with exercise-related urticaria (which is a histamine reaction, basically). So for me, Scienca does exactly what Dr. D says it should do--reduces inflammatory response in a gentle but thorough way.

Thanks, Brig! Before I posted this thread, I did a search of this site to see if there was already an existing thread discussing Scienca and people's experiences with it, and there wasn't, so I really thought it might be helpful to start one. I guess because it is a new product, that's why so few seem to have tried it yet. Thanks for posting your experience with it here, as it could really help folks searching for info on it.

I'm excited to try mine, in fact, I think tomorrow might be the day I do. Good point that Lloyd made re getting tumeric in his regular diet, as well as quercetin, yet I think a supplemental dose could really help Gatherers like us, and I'm excited about the bromelain. I've never actually tried bromelain, other than the natural bromelain in the fresh pineapple itself. Hopefully, this supplement will help my knees out and, like you said, reduce inflamation from exercise, systemically, including in my just-mentioned KNEES.*

I eat a very anti-inflamatory diet, but this supplement of basically distilled superfoods should complement that!

* edited to add: And hamstrings!!!

"If you are on one of Dr. D's diets and it isn't joyful, you aren't doing it right."- moi

Actually, now that I think about it, and after reading what Brighid said about Scienca having a histamine controlling action, I did manage to make it through a rather pollen laden Spring season without overreacting as I had in the past.

Interesting!

"If you are on one of Dr. D's diets and it isn't joyful, you aren't doing it right."- moi

I'm pretty sure the generous supply of turmeric I eat every single day is why the pine pollen didn't drive me nuts this past spring. Plus, it helps keep my joints flexible, and I hardly ever have any pains there unless I twist something the wrong way. Even then it doesn't last very long. I take other anti-inflammatories in supplements, such as Boswellia, etc..

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I'm pretty sure the generous supply of turmeric I eat every single day is why the pine pollen didn't drive me nuts this past spring. Plus, it helps keep my joints flexible, and I hardly ever have any pains there unless I twist something the wrong way. Even then it doesn't last very long. I take other anti-inflammatories in supplements, such as Boswellia, etc..

Can you share some of the ways you're using turmeric? I bought a bottle but am not sure which foodsare complimented by it. Would gladly try incorporating it into my diet if I had some advice.

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Can you share some of the ways you're using turmeric? I bought a bottle but am not sure which foodsare complimented by it. Would gladly try incorporating it into my diet if I had some advice.

Like Drea, I love it on any kind of bean including snap beans. Plus, it is delicious on ground turkey along with cardamom, garlic, a tiny bit of cloves, sea salt, and now I am using a little carob in my mix. It smells delicious when it is cooking too! Of course, that combination is very good on baked or roasted chicken too. I think if I didn't like it so much, I would be taking it in capsules to get the benefits.

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I use turmeric regularly in cooking meat/turkey, together with sweet paprika, ginger and cumin, and sprinkle it on fish while steaming. Sometimes also in cooking rice. It gives the rice a yellow to amber colour, and it is a very common way of cooking rice in the Middle East. Also in soups: chicken or vegetables.

I tried it with fried onions and cannelini beans, and added ground cumin and smoked paprika. Had it for breakfast like someone suggested. It was delicious. Next time I will toss in a handful of baby spinach leaves. Yum!

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Okay, I'm finally coming back to this thread to post my experience with Scienca, as I actually think I have an interesting report to share that could be important for anyone like me who has any sort of bleeding issue. Scienca is a great, anti-inflammatory supp and, like all the DPN supps, is absolutely superlative in terms of quality and potency of the ingredients. What I didn't realize is, turmeric, in addition to its anti-inflamatory effect, is also a natural blood thinner. I found that out really fast, though, and I can attest to the potency of the turmeric in Scienca. I should back up and tell you that I have structural problems (very complicated and too LONG to explain) with my nose, due to botched surgeries to correct a deviated septum when I was young (15) and subsequent cauterizations some years later, which just made things exponentially worse. Enough said about that (I hate talking about it, but it is important to note in this discussion), the point is this: the result of that prob is that I get nosebleeds very easily, which is why I had to take the drastic step of moving to Florida some years back, for the humidity/subtropical clime, which helps tremendously. As long as I'm in humid, warm air, I'm okay--usually.

So, I started taking the Scienca and felt great on it, yet within either a day or two, BOOM, out of the clear blue sky, I get a nosebleed in the middle of summer (late July) in Florida. As usual when I get one, I tried to rack my brain to think of why, why, WHY? If it is wintertime up north, I know why, but down here, in summer? So I was like: was I around cigarette smoke, no. Was I around toxic fumes, was I around perfumes (same thing), what the HECK happened? Then I thought: could it be the Scienca? Could something in there be a blood thinner? Could it be the turmeric? But I was too busy at that time to even Google it, and this summer just went from busy to busier, so I kind of forgot about it, yet stopped taking the Scienca for a while, then started again and BOOM, another nosebleed. I've also, meanwhile, been ingesting this hot sauce from Barbados that also has turmeric *lol*! So I'm on turmeric overload.

Anyway (oh--edited to add: so I just this very day finally Googled turmeric and found out YES, it IS a blood thinner!), so my review is that I am VERY impressed with the potency of all DPN supps and, unfortunately, in this one case, said potency includes a blood thinning effect which would be great for Type A's ( ), but which I caution my fellow O's to proceed with caution on, as we all tend to have thin blood. Most O's probably won't have an issue, and the thing is, O's can benefit a lot from the other potent effect--the anti-inflamatory effect--of the turmeric and other ingredients in Scienca. Us O's live in a world with a lot of foods that are inflamatory for us, so the Scienca is awesome, especially if you have any sort of auto-immune disease. Just proceed with caution if you are a "bleeder" like me--and my situation is extreme, as most people don't have some freak thing going on that makes them get nosebleeds at the drop of a hat. But I just thought I should point out the blood thinning effect of the turmeric, for better or worse. For so many, it is for better. For a few of us, though, we have to be careful with it.

I'll definitely continue to take the Scienca sporadically throughout the warmer months, though I won't take it in winter, when my weird sitch is challenging enough.

Verdict on Scienca: powerful anti-inflamatory, and surprisingly powerful blood thinner, too. For anyone who needs that, such as many, if not most, Type A's, and perhaps those on synethic blood thinners who would like to explore transitioning to a natural alternative, this could be an AWESOME thing. If you are on synthetic blood thinners, though, consult with your doctor before changing your dosage or taking any sort of turmeric, as you don't want your blood thinned too much--your doctor might say, okay, let's lower your coumadin or Warfarin (or whatever) dose a hair and THEN you can try the turmeric--or too little.

Anyway: there you have my experience with Scienca.

"If you are on one of Dr. D's diets and it isn't joyful, you aren't doing it right."- moi