The thing I don't understand is why blacks aren't insisting on more jobs as Democrat senators and as other Democrat politicians? How can you even justify any heterosexual white male Democrat politicians when there are so few heterosexual white male Democrats? It's a hell of a trick those sneaky white guys are playing on minorities over there.

What I don't get is why people assume just because someone who is not of the same race or ethnicity that they cannot comprehend or explain how a race other than their own feels over particular issues.

We need more understanding and less victimization in this world.

It's like you must only have a certain mindset or affiliation in order to lay claim to know how x group feels. When clearly that is not the truth even when claims my be spoken by someone of their own ethnicity. And since this is the case, then fark what is the use to assume you know right from wrong? What is worth in learning anything from anyone and sharing that knowledge in front of others.

Only to be rebuffed because you are not a part of the ethnicity you talk about?That is ridiculous and only promotes division of people.

To assume someone of another race cannot speak about what people of another race may feel is in and of itself contributing to racists bias. And NOT promoting unity.

And for those who could not keep their heads straight for 5 seconds can clearly hear in this video, that Ann was talking about perceptions and efforts of the White people. While attempting to put forth historical notes in front of all these hens squawking away.

I don't follow Ann C by any means, but she has a lot more courage than any of these ignorant haters out there, that is for sure. Nobody owns the monopoly on understanding within their own race, not Ann, not Whoppi, or Whoppi's grandmother.

Time is infinite.And you with your sliver of life experience will never trump other peoples identity, both now, in the future and of the past. Grow a farking backbone people.

Noam Chimpsky:The thing I don't understand is why blacks aren't insisting on more jobs as Democrat senators and as other Democrat politicians? How can you even justify any heterosexual white male Democrat politicians when there are so few heterosexual white male Democrats? It's a hell of a trick those sneaky white guys are playing on minorities over there.

What are you trying to say? Slow down, take a deep breath and try again because that post makes no sense.

mirazh1976:What I don't get is why people assume just because someone who is not of the same race or ethnicity that they cannot comprehend or explain how a race other than their own feels over particular issues.

No matter how hard you try, you'll never fully understand someone else's plight. It's actually pretty damn offensive for some hateful Fox News harpy to come along and tell you she knows you better than you.

And I find it hilarious that you're defending Ann Coulter and talking about "unity." Coulter is one of the most divisive hateful teabaggers in America. She regularly writes books about how liberals are "traitorous demons" nshiat.

nevirus:mirazh1976: What I don't get is why people assume just because someone who is not of the same race or ethnicity that they cannot comprehend or explain how a race other than their own feels over particular issues.

No matter how hard you try, you'll never fully understand someone else's plight. It's actually pretty damn offensive for some hateful Fox News harpy to come along and tell you she knows you better than you.

And I find it hilarious that you're defending Ann Coulter and talking about "unity." Coulter is one of the most divisive hateful teabaggers in America. She regularly writes books about how liberals are "traitorous demons" nshiat.

If Mirazh is Jewish, that would probably explain his outlook..... just saying./lots and lots and lots of history on that one/if he ain't, maybe he can give an example or three

mirazh1976:And for those who could not keep their heads straight for 5 seconds can clearly hear in this video, that Ann was talking about perceptions and efforts of the White people. While attempting to put forth historical notes in front of all these hens squawking away." read my book. It's all explained in chapter fourteen, and available in bookstores and newsstands now. Really, read it. You'll be amazed at just how smart I am."

Noam Chimpsky:The thing I don't understand is why blacks aren't insisting on more jobs as Democrat senators and as other Democrat politicians? How can you even justify any heterosexual white male Democrat politicians when there are so few heterosexual white male Democrats? It's a hell of a trick those sneaky white guys are playing on minorities over there.

Umm... you might not know this, but the highest ranking Democrat in our country happens to be a black dude.

Graffito:Noam Chimpsky: The thing I don't understand is why blacks aren't insisting on more jobs as Democrat senators and as other Democrat politicians? How can you even justify any heterosexual white male Democrat politicians when there are so few heterosexual white male Democrats? It's a hell of a trick those sneaky white guys are playing on minorities over there.

What are you trying to say? Slow down, take a deep breath and try again because that post makes no sense.

Why aren't the Democrats raising the quota for black Democrats in congress and other positions of power and lowering the quota for white Democrats in congress and other positions of power so as to make the party more representative of its demographics?

Need Help Soonish:Noam Chimpsky: The thing I don't understand is why blacks aren't insisting on more jobs as Democrat senators and as other Democrat politicians? How can you even justify any heterosexual white male Democrat politicians when there are so few heterosexual white male Democrats? It's a hell of a trick those sneaky white guys are playing on minorities over there.

Umm... you might not know this, but the highest ranking Democrat in our country happens to be a black dude.

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Exactly, and he's more popular than all the white male Democrats put together. So why are there so many white male Democrats in positions of power and why don't they move aside to make the party's politicians more representative of its demographics?

Need Help Soonish:Noam Chimpsky: The thing I don't understand is why blacks aren't insisting on more jobs as Democrat senators and as other Democrat politicians? How can you even justify any heterosexual white male Democrat politicians when there are so few heterosexual white male Democrats? It's a hell of a trick those sneaky white guys are playing on minorities over there.

Umm... you might not know this, but the highest ranking Democrat in our country happens to be a black dude.

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That's irrelevant, I believe.

Noam Chimpsky has a point. Not in the way of 'demanding' but in the way of 'merit'.

Are there others in place to take Obama's place after his term (be it this November or four years from now) is up? Who is being groomed, who is non-white-male and non-white-female? If Obama is a situation so rare as to be unique for the foreseeable future, then Noam has a point. If Democrats shrug and believe its okay because Obama's is enough, then Noam has a point.

Noam Chimpsky:Exactly, and he's more popular than all the white male Democrats put together. So why are there so many white male Democrats in positions of power and why don't they move aside to make the party's politicians more representative of its demographics?

Cause politicians stay in office forever. As the old crusty white dudes die off, they will be replaced with a rainbow hue of awesome... Things like demographic shifts take time to work their way up. But the Dems are on it, no worries.

im sorry, but i HAVE to admit something that i already know isnt going to be popular with ANYBODY but me.I think ann coulter is pretty damn HOT...... that is....... THAT IS........ until she opens her mouth.Now. if ONLY there was something i could stick in there so i wouldnt have to listen to her opinions/talking.

Noam Chimpsky has a point. Not in the way of 'demanding' but in the way of 'merit'.

Are there others in place to take Obama's place after his term (be it this November or four years from now) is up? Who is being groomed, who is non-white-male and non-white-female? If Obama is a situation so rare as to be unique for the foreseeable future, then Noam has a point. If Democrats shrug and believe its okay because Obama's is enough, then Noam has a point.

The point where she went from being a dishonest biatch to a lying c*nt was her bullshiat about Dixiecrats.

She acts as if Dixiecrats were mainstream Democrats. THEY. WERE. NOT.

Dixiecrats earned their name not because they were Democrats who just happened to have been from the South but because they were Southern Democrats WHO BOLTED from the Democratic Party whenever the party pushed for equality and civil rights for all Americans, regardless of race or color.

Take the 1948 presidential election. The Dixiecrats DIDN'T vote for the Democrat. They voted for Strom Thurmond (who became a Republican once that party eagerly courted the bigot vote).

And, Coulter's saying that the Southern Strategy never happened is just absurd. Who the hell falls for her nonsense? I have my suspicions, but I'm hoping someone will come up with an hypothesis that isn't quite so...damning as the one that seems obvious to me.

eraser8:The point where she went from being a dishonest biatch to a lying c*nt was her bullshiat about Dixiecrats.

She acts as if Dixiecrats were mainstream Democrats. THEY. WERE. NOT.

Dixiecrats earned their name not because they were Democrats who just happened to have been from the South but because they were Southern Democrats WHO BOLTED from the Democratic Party whenever the party pushed for equality and civil rights for all Americans, regardless of race or color.

Take the 1948 presidential election. The Dixiecrats DIDN'T vote for the Democrat. They voted for Strom Thurmond (who became a Republican once that party eagerly courted the bigot vote).

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And, Coulter's saying that the Southern Strategy never happened is just absurd. Who the hell falls for her nonsense? I have my suspicions, but I'm hoping someone will come up with an hypothesis that isn't quite so...damning as the one that seems obvious to me.

mirazh1976:While attempting to put forth historical notes in front of all these hens squawking away.

Coulter is lying when she waives away the Southern Strategy and the impact of race on the realignment of the two parties.

"Quite simply, as liberalism metamorphosed from an economic populist stance--supporting farm, highway, health, education and pension expenditures against conservative budget -cutting--into a credo of social engineering, it lost the support of poor whites. Equally important was conservatism's adoption of some economic populism to augment its opposition to Negro-oriented social innovation. The Negro socioeconomic revolution gave conservatism a degree of access to Southern poor white support which it had not enjoyed since the somewhat comparable Reconstruction era."

Need Help Soonish:Noam Chimpsky: Exactly, and he's more popular than all the white male Democrats put together. So why are there so many white male Democrats in positions of power and why don't they move aside to make the party's politicians more representative of its demographics?

Cause politicians stay in office forever. As the old crusty white dudes die off, they will be replaced with a rainbow hue of awesome... Things like demographic shifts take time to work their way up. But the Dems are on it, no worries.

Noam Chimpsky has a point. Not in the way of 'demanding' but in the way of 'merit'.

Are there others in place to take Obama's place after his term (be it this November or four years from now) is up? Who is being groomed, who is non-white-male and non-white-female? If Obama is a situation so rare as to be unique for the foreseeable future, then Noam has a point. If Democrats shrug and believe its okay because Obama's is enough, then Noam has a point.

Your concern has been noted.

*eyeroll*

What is there to eyeroll about? Your own statement above is similar to what blacks were told by whites (some of whom called themselves allies trying to help) post-Reconstruction through dawn-of-Civil-Rights-era. It is also similar to what women of color were told by white women throughout the gestation and birthing of the suffragist movements and women's lib. It is also similar to what transexuals are told by both homo men and lesbian women in the Alphabet Soup battles for Recognition, Marriage Equality and Beyond.

The Democrats are not on it. A fire must continually be forced beneath feet. The other part of your comment above is that such shifts have a way of going in .. unintentional .. directions, which only seem out of nowhere. Democrats have made a mistake in treating the varied issues of Hispanics as though from one monolith group, and they will pay for it if they continue to sleep on it.

ExperianScaresCthulhu:What is there to eyeroll about? Your own statement above is similar to what blacks were told by whites (some of whom called themselves allies trying to help) post-Reconstruction through dawn-of-Civil-Rights-era. It is also similar to what women of color were told by white women throughout the gestation and birthing of the suffragist movements and women's lib. It is also similar to what transexuals are told by both homo men and lesbian women in the Alphabet Soup battles for Recognition, Marriage Equality and Beyond.

The Democrats are not on it. A fire must continually be forced beneath feet. The other part of your comment above is that such shifts have a way of going in .. unintentional .. directions, which only seem out of nowhere. Democrats have made a mistake in treating the varied issues of Hispanics as though from one monolith group, and they will pay for it if they continue to sleep on it.

That is something to be concerned about, is it not.

Nope, not really. The demographics of the democratic party ARE shifting, as are the demographics of the leadership (The Pres is BLACK yo! Most of the Dems elected in the state of NM are of Mexican and hispanic decent... it's like THEY KNOW)

Full racial polarization is an essential ingredient of Phillips' political pragmatism. He wants to seek a black Democratic Party, particularly in the South, because this will drive into the Republican Party precisely the kind of anti-Negro whites who will help constitute the emerging majority. This even leads him to support some civil rights efforts.

"Maintenance of Negro voting rights in Dixie, far from being contrary to G.O.P. interests, is essential of Southern conservatives are to be pressured into switching to the Republican Party-for Negroes are beginning to seize control of the national Democratic Party in some black-belt areas," he writes.

Popcorn Johnny:Whoopi had nothing of any substance to refute anything Anne had to say.

Yeah, and she seemed drunk. I don't think she'd read the book. Ann was just spouting talking points she ginned up which are easy to pop as balloons are your daughter's birthday party, but nobody was calling her out.

As someone with some very smart nutcase relatives, I can tell you what the trick is: Ignore the most "shocking" claims and focus on the shifts -- for example Anne shifted from juries to judges and laws in her opening remarks, but nobody tried to figure out the connection. Attacking her "shocker" remarks is attacking her where she's best prepared.