Kibbler:give me doughnuts: Kibbler: eraser8: I don't think I'd ever had KFC until I went to college. I had a friend there who used to love the stuff. He loved it in all its greasy, salty horror. I never figured out the attraction.

Maybe I'm immune to the addictive chemical they put in the chicken that makes people crave it fortnightly.

KFC used to be a real treat back in the 60s. It was genuine fried chicken back then, and genuine potatoes, genuine cole slaw, genuine biscuits. Now it's all synthesized, mass-produced factory crap, and I can't figure out why anybody eats it. It's cheap, I guess, and fast, and they don't even know what real food is like any more.

But you can take my word for it, there was a time when it was great stuff.

Gee, those foctory-synthsized fake bones are really convincing.

Scrawny, ill-tasting chickens raised in crowded cages in huge factory farms. "Breading" that is like some kind of alien goo. Yes, synthesized. I can't even detect the flavor of chicken any more. It's just "generic greasy salty fast-food flavor."

My earliest memories of a Kentucky Fried Chicken were from about 1965. It was an old-fashioned chicken shack. No place to sit down and eat. You went in and ordered (or phoned it in ahead of time) and waited. Then took it home. It was not fast food. The place had screen windows (hot as hell in their during the summer), and some standing room, and a counter where you could see them cooking. They made each order as it came in. They mashed their own potatoes. They baked their own made-from-scratch biscuits. They cooked their own fresh green beans, made their own cole slaw. It was real. I'm not saying it was haute cuisine. It was an old-fashioned chicken shack and it tasted great.

The plasticized, synthesized, air-conditioned, factory food outlet with drivethrough of today does not even remotely resemble it. KFC went off the edge when they moved toward "we need to be able to get an order to a customer within three ...

Your earliest memories of KFC have taken on a Disney-esque sheen. You may be conflating a local take-out place you frequented with the standardized franchise that KFC had become by the mid-1960s.

give me doughnuts:Your earliest memories of KFC have taken on a Disney-esque sheen. You may be conflating a local take-out place you frequented with the standardized franchise that KFC had become by the mid-1960s.

It must have been some other place with a "Kentucky Fried Chicken" sign on the front, that sold chicken in buckets that said "Kentucky Fried Chicken" on them. Either way, it doesn't matter. If you think I'm full of shiat, that's OK.

Resident Muslim:Wow, it makes it sound as if they are actually human beings!

The fact that they are human beings proudly committing the war crimes they commit is what makes it so horrifying, and makes treating them as subhuman so necessary.

/would you give freedom to an unrepentant serial killer, if he/she proved completely irredeemable?//because the only alternative is to put them down like a rabid dog, or keep them caged like an animal, and both those options demonize somebody who's only too human

Kibbler:give me doughnuts: Your earliest memories of KFC have taken on a Disney-esque sheen. You may be conflating a local take-out place you frequented with the standardized franchise that KFC had become by the mid-1960s.

It must have been some other place with a "Kentucky Fried Chicken" sign on the front, that sold chicken in buckets that said "Kentucky Fried Chicken" on them. Either way, it doesn't matter. If you think I'm full of shiat, that's OK.

Israeli KFC (most likely what it was; DNRTFA) != US KFC

From what I recall, anyway. You know those studies that show that American snacks (pretzels, chips, etc) are saltier here? In Israel, it's probably cheaper and easier for them to use real chickens than to buy thrice-processed "chykyn" from the Mothership in Peoria.

// there's an awesome chain of restaurants that are (or claim to be) kibbutz-supplied

Tatterdemalian:Resident Muslim: Wow, it makes it sound as if they are actually human beings!

The fact that they are human beings proudly committing the war crimes they commit is what makes it so horrifying, and makes treating them as subhuman so necessary.

/would you give freedom to an unrepentant serial killer, if he/she proved completely irredeemable?//because the only alternative is to put them down like a rabid dog, or keep them caged like an animal, and both those options demonize somebody who's only too human

Alphax:Tatterdemalian: Resident Muslim: Wow, it makes it sound as if they are actually human beings!

The fact that they are human beings proudly committing the war crimes they commit is what makes it so horrifying, and makes treating them as subhuman so necessary.

/would you give freedom to an unrepentant serial killer, if he/she proved completely irredeemable?//because the only alternative is to put them down like a rabid dog, or keep them caged like an animal, and both those options demonize somebody who's only too human

Not sure if trolling, or just insane.

Why not both?

The propaganda of the region lends to insanity and trolling... they feed off the repetition of a hyperbolic truth they thrust upon others. (i.e. the straw-man argument that Palestinians are not human as treated by Israeli... or the phrase above as though all Palestinians are "human beings committing war crimes proudly" vs. a faction of Hamas... make no mistake though, Hamas kills gays, 'traitors' without trial, and enforces Sharia law through their Vice police in Gaza... but that does not mean the Palestinians all want that, just that they have no better alternative IMHO, since radicals kill moderates).

Dammit, now I really want to make fried chicken. Okay, farkers, what's your recipe? I soak mine in buttermilk (lemon juice and milk), then roll them in flour, salt, and pepper, then fry it in a cast iron pan, low heat, vegetable oil, with a cover on top. When the last batch goes in, toss in a little of the extra breading flour and a couple sprinkles of water to make cracklins for the gravy. And it better be milk gravy, you savages - any flour left over from the breading and the cracklins gets whisked into some milk and a bit of the hot grease left over from the chicken. Dump most of the grease out of the frying pan, leaving the cracklins behind, then mix in the milk/flour mixture and stir that bad boy until it thickens up. Stir it until your arm falls off. Maybe add some more salt and pepper, but nothing else goes in there. Mashed potatoes have butter with either heavy cream or sour cream mashed in, depending on which is going bad first in my fridge. Handy trick with the mashed potatoes - add a bit of oil to the water (like 1/4 teaspoon, at most) when you put them on the stove, it keeps the pot from boiling over.

Tatterdemalian:Resident Muslim: Wow, it makes it sound as if they are actually human beings!

The fact that they are human beings proudly committing the war crimes they commit is what makes it so horrifying, and makes treating them as subhuman so necessary.

/would you give freedom to an unrepentant serial killer, if he/she proved completely irredeemable?//because the only alternative is to put them down like a rabid dog, or keep them caged like an animal, and both those options demonize somebody who's only too human

Alphax:Tatterdemalian: Resident Muslim: Wow, it makes it sound as if they are actually human beings!

The fact that they are human beings proudly committing the war crimes they commit is what makes it so horrifying, and makes treating them as subhuman so necessary.

/would you give freedom to an unrepentant serial killer, if he/she proved completely irredeemable?//because the only alternative is to put them down like a rabid dog, or keep them caged like an animal, and both those options demonize somebody who's only too human

Joe Blowme:Alphax: Tatterdemalian: Resident Muslim: Wow, it makes it sound as if they are actually human beings!

The fact that they are human beings proudly committing the war crimes they commit is what makes it so horrifying, and makes treating them as subhuman so necessary.

/would you give freedom to an unrepentant serial killer, if he/she proved completely irredeemable?//because the only alternative is to put them down like a rabid dog, or keep them caged like an animal, and both those options demonize somebody who's only too human

The Envoy:Joe Blowme: Alphax: Tatterdemalian: Resident Muslim: Wow, it makes it sound as if they are actually human beings!

The fact that they are human beings proudly committing the war crimes they commit is what makes it so horrifying, and makes treating them as subhuman so necessary.

/would you give freedom to an unrepentant serial killer, if he/she proved completely irredeemable?//because the only alternative is to put them down like a rabid dog, or keep them caged like an animal, and both those options demonize somebody who's only too human

Not sure if trolling, or just insane.

Honesty is sometimes painful and the truth = trolling on FARK

What would you do if a Muslim family moved in next door to you?

Welcome them over for tea... discuss our mutual interests.We're not seriously entertaining the thought that all Muslims are terrorists? Are we?

For Fark sakes, the Freemasons had Muslims in their ranks since the start of this nation..They were not a problem then, they are not a problem now.

The Envoy:Joe Blowme: Alphax: Tatterdemalian: Resident Muslim: Wow, it makes it sound as if they are actually human beings!

The fact that they are human beings proudly committing the war crimes they commit is what makes it so horrifying, and makes treating them as subhuman so necessary.

/would you give freedom to an unrepentant serial killer, if he/she proved completely irredeemable?//because the only alternative is to put them down like a rabid dog, or keep them caged like an animal, and both those options demonize somebody who's only too human

Not sure if trolling, or just insane.

Honesty is sometimes painful and the truth = trolling on FARK

What would you do if a Muslim family moved in next door to you?

He'd probably freak out and call the cops 3 times a day reporting "suspicious" activities such as praying.

give me doughnuts:Your earliest memories of KFC have taken on a Disney-esque sheen. You may be conflating a local take-out place you frequented with the standardized franchise that KFC had become by the mid-1960s.

Love when some jackass who thinks they know everything, makes some smarmy or snarky remark then gets proven wrong. It is literally why I come to fark. Donuts you owe an apology to Kibbler and to our community at a whole

leonel:You know a people are in dire straits when they're smuggling KFC, unless American fast food everywhere else in the world except the US itself is actually of some quality like with McDonald's.

Did you miss the part in the story where the smuggler comments that he can get FOUR WHOLE chickens for the price of the smuggled KFC in Gaza?

You know, people sometimes do things that you think are irrational... deal with it! It's not dire straits, it's just that people like KFC. Stop trying to paint everything as good v. evil. It's childish.

cameroncrazy1984:What would you do if a Muslim family moved in next door to you?

He'd probably freak out and call the cops 3 times a day reporting "suspicious" activities such as praying.

Oh, Cameron, it's like you spend your days on Fark making ASSUMPTIONS about people and events that are always the worse or are just flat out inaccurate.

Did you learn what a short sale of a stock is yet? Or are you still haunting the business tab, commenting on things you have no real knowledge about?One thing I can say, you're good at ASSuming things. Like what Envoy would do... probably freak out, as you said... but you're the one who freaks out and ASSuMEs the worse, Cameron.

You're the one projecting hate and assuming others hatred.You do this fairly often... make the worse assumptions about things.It's borderline trolling, but I honestly don't think you understand what you are doing.

To suggest that Drew is part of some Zionist conspiracy is the same derp that has some Republicans claiming Obama is a secret Kenyan Muslim.(Only because you hate someone, does not mean you should be making up batshyat crazy theories)

You add black pepper until you are sure that it is ruined, and then you shake in a little more.

Mcaffolder:give me doughnuts: Your earliest memories of KFC have taken on a Disney-esque sheen. You may be conflating a local take-out place you frequented with the standardized franchise that KFC had become by the mid-1960s.

Kibbler: It's the one in the lower right corner.

Love when some jackass who thinks they know everything, makes some smarmy or snarky remark then gets proven wrong. It is literally why I come to fark. Donuts you owe an apology to Kibbler and to our community at a whole

/what a moron, "yeah, your memories are wrong"// Thank god for GIS

Fark you. How's that for an apology?

The post card is of Hobby House/KFC locations that the Clauss family owned in Fort Wayne, IN in the early to mid-'60s. It was posted on the "Curbside Classics" blog.

Do I still think Kibbler's 48 year old rose-tinted memories are unreliable? Yes, I do.

Sounds like the standard response for someone with your social skills...

but I do give you a golf clap for interning internet archetypes to their classic level of pigheaded arrogance (not ignorance mind you, as I can appreciate your insight into the image itself). My favorite part is that you seasoned your verbal assault with foaming mouth bits. I can only really appreciate an arrogant comment, when it has been subtly (or in your case) not so subtly flavored with the purveyors rage.

Kibbler:eraser8: I don't think I'd ever had KFC until I went to college. I had a friend there who used to love the stuff. He loved it in all its greasy, salty horror. I never figured out the attraction.

Maybe I'm immune to the addictive chemical they put in the chicken that makes people crave it fortnightly.

KFC used to be a real treat back in the 60s. It was genuine fried chicken back then, and genuine potatoes, genuine cole slaw, genuine biscuits. Now it's all synthesized, mass-produced factory crap, and I can't figure out why anybody eats it. It's cheap, I guess, and fast, and they don't even know what real food is like any more.

But you can take my word for it, there was a time when it was great stuff.

Well, even Colonel Sanders thought it went downhill. After KFC was sold to a conglomerate in 1971, they slowly started changing recipes to cut costs.

He spoke out against what had been done to his beloved restaurant chain, and famously described the gravy as "wallpaper paste". The company that owned KFC at the time sued him for libel in 1975 over those comments. The civil suit went nowhere, probably because it had to be pursued in Kentucky courts, where Col. Sanders was a hero and most people knew KFC had gone to crap.

The rather sad thing is, that Harlan Sanders, when he ran the company, was fanatical about quality. You didn't buy your chicken fryers from him, you leased them. He would drive around doing personal spot inspections of stores. If he didn't like what he saw, he would haul the fryers out on the spot, shutting the franchise down. He took the quality of things dead seriously in his life. It didn't start to go to shiat until after he no longer had his hands on it.

You add black pepper until you are sure that it is ruined, and then you shake in a little more.

Mcaffolder: give me doughnuts: Your earliest memories of KFC have taken on a Disney-esque sheen. You may be conflating a local take-out place you frequented with the standardized franchise that KFC had become by the mid-1960s.

Kibbler: It's the one in the lower right corner.

Love when some jackass who thinks they know everything, makes some smarmy or snarky remark then gets proven wrong. It is literally why I come to fark. Donuts you owe an apology to Kibbler and to our community at a whole

/what a moron, "yeah, your memories are wrong"// Thank god for GIS

Fark you. How's that for an apology?

The post card is of Hobby House/KFC locations that the Clauss family owned in Fort Wayne, IN in the early to mid-'60s. It was posted on the "Curbside Classics" blog.

Do I still think Kibbler's 48 year old rose-tinted memories are unreliable? Yes, I do.

To repeat, it really doesn't matter. I don't care what you believe any more than you care what I believe. I'm kind of puzzled why you want to make a thing out of it, but then I don't really care about that either.

Sounds like the standard response for someone with your social skills...

but I do give you a golf clap for interning internet archetypes to their classic level of pigheaded arrogance (not ignorance mind you, as I can appreciate your insight into the image itself). My favorite part is that you seasoned your verbal assault with foaming mouth bits. I can only really appreciate an arrogant comment, when it has been subtly (or in your case) not so subtly flavored with the purveyors rage.

/you can "think" whatever you want, it still does not make it right

"Verbal assault"?

How pathetic are you? (gee, I bet that raised a bruise) Do go on with your white-knighting, though.

sheep snorter:In other news: Its been 65 years since Israel started to wipe out Palestine.

They sure suck at it since it seem to take decades and the palestinian population only increases.In other news, it's 65 years since the arabs failed (try #1) miserably in their attempt to slaughter the jews.

cameroncrazy1984:NostroZ: Oh, Cameron, it's like you spend your days on Fark making ASSUMPTIONS about people and events that are always the worse or are just flat out inaccurate.

No, you're totally right. A guy who assumes that all Palestinians are terrorists would have no problem with having Muslim neighbors.

Come on, be realistic here.

Whoa there... you're getting WAY too Meta for me.

You assumed what another guy assumed about Muslims (no mention of Palestinians) and then went off about what you assumed is his assumption. That's some heavy ASS-U-MING there... so much so, I'd imagine you're head is now stuck in your own ass.

/Just so we can reference reality for a second, the ONLY actual info you had from Envoy was his question of: "What would you do if a Muslim moved in next door?"//The rest was ALL YOU Cameron... your assumed hatred... your assumed racism... you are the one who injects hate into the discussion... if you want the world to be a better place, start with unraveling that assumed hatred that place on others, Cameron.

NostroZ:You assumed what another guy assumed about Muslims (no mention of Palestinians) and then went off about what you assumed is his assumption. That's some heavy ASS-U-MING there... so much so, I'd imagine you're head is now stuck in your own ass

I'm sorry that you can't actually read posts through all of that blind rage of yours. It must suck to go through life assuming that everyone you come into contact with is persecuting you in some way, if you can only get them to admit how.

Silverstaff:Kibbler: eraser8: I don't think I'd ever had KFC until I went to college. I had a friend there who used to love the stuff. He loved it in all its greasy, salty horror. I never figured out the attraction.

Maybe I'm immune to the addictive chemical they put in the chicken that makes people crave it fortnightly.

KFC used to be a real treat back in the 60s. It was genuine fried chicken back then, and genuine potatoes, genuine cole slaw, genuine biscuits. Now it's all synthesized, mass-produced factory crap, and I can't figure out why anybody eats it. It's cheap, I guess, and fast, and they don't even know what real food is like any more.

But you can take my word for it, there was a time when it was great stuff.

Well, even Colonel Sanders thought it went downhill. After KFC was sold to a conglomerate in 1971, they slowly started changing recipes to cut costs.

He spoke out against what had been done to his beloved restaurant chain, and famously described the gravy as "wallpaper paste". The company that owned KFC at the time sued him for libel in 1975 over those comments. The civil suit went nowhere, probably because it had to be pursued in Kentucky courts, where Col. Sanders was a hero and most people knew KFC had gone to crap.

The rather sad thing is, that Harlan Sanders, when he ran the company, was fanatical about quality. You didn't buy your chicken fryers from him, you leased them. He would drive around doing personal spot inspections of stores. If he didn't like what he saw, he would haul the fryers out on the spot, shutting the franchise down. He took the quality of things dead seriously in his life. It didn't start to go to shiat until after he no longer had his hands on it.

wow, great pops.. If you havent noticed lots of things changed since the 60's. And its all not because of 'evil corporate greed'.

McDonalds for example: Their fries were once OMG-THESE-THINGS-ARE-AWEOSMEly great. That was in the beef tallow days, then they switched. Still great, just not awesomely great, then they switched again recently because of 'trans fats'. I still like them, but they arent the same as before -- for a reason thats not muhhahahah-twisting-his-evil-wax-mustache-greed.

KFC recently had to switch because of trans-fats. and some ppl I know dont like it now. I'm sure the corporate boys didnt want to spend millions of dollars trying to find a substitute from an oil that already works fine, but lawyers will lawyer.

Then theres the billy-will-die-if-he-passes-by-a-peanut-lying-on-the-ground crowd. I'm sure theres a problem with that issue in KFC's past as well. Its not easy running a, then national and now, international chain and trying to keep your product the same for each and every damn customer that comes in the door, much less the ones who show up looking for an excuse to run to a lawyer.

Please keep this in mind before crying like a school girl because something changed in 40+ years of existence.

Silverstaff:Kibbler: eraser8: I don't think I'd ever had KFC until I went to college. I had a friend there who used to love the stuff. He loved it in all its greasy, salty horror. I never figured out the attraction.

Maybe I'm immune to the addictive chemical they put in the chicken that makes people crave it fortnightly.

KFC used to be a real treat back in the 60s. It was genuine fried chicken back then, and genuine potatoes, genuine cole slaw, genuine biscuits. Now it's all synthesized, mass-produced factory crap, and I can't figure out why anybody eats it. It's cheap, I guess, and fast, and they don't even know what real food is like any more.

But you can take my word for it, there was a time when it was great stuff.

Well, even Colonel Sanders thought it went downhill. After KFC was sold to a conglomerate in 1971, they slowly started changing recipes to cut costs.

He spoke out against what had been done to his beloved restaurant chain, and famously described the gravy as "wallpaper paste". The company that owned KFC at the time sued him for libel in 1975 over those comments. The civil suit went nowhere, probably because it had to be pursued in Kentucky courts, where Col. Sanders was a hero and most people knew KFC had gone to crap.

The rather sad thing is, that Harlan Sanders, when he ran the company, was fanatical about quality. You didn't buy your chicken fryers from him, you leased them. He would drive around doing personal spot inspections of stores. If he didn't like what he saw, he would haul the fryers out on the spot, shutting the franchise down. He took the quality of things dead seriously in his life. It didn't start to go to shiat until after he no longer had his hands on it.

1) He only sold the business in the US, he still had control over the business in Canada.2) he only sued the company over new products that KFC introduced in which they put the colonels name too. He didnt like that, and he REALLY didnt like the gravy. the chicken was the same.

NostroZ:Like what Envoy would do... probably freak out, as you said... but you're the one who freaks out and ASSuMEs the worse, Cameron.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. For someone who is taking issue with another Farker for making ASS-umptions, you don't seem to be averse to making a big one yourself. I asked the question because Joe Blowme is renowned for being terrified of all Muslims and talking shiat about them in every thread that mentions them and/or Islam and I enjoy mocking his hatred and his fear at every turn. This started years ago when he trotted out the old bullshiat about England adopting Sharia Law and becoming a terrorist haven and being overrun by Muslims. My position couldn't be more opposite to his. Why have you assumed otherwise and tried to impugn me?