born_yesterday:Intro to Physics...the first day for the class that semester. The professor...gives his spiel...asks if there are any questions. A girl a few rows ahead of me raises her hand. The professor nods, and the girl stands up. In a shaky but determined voice she says, "Sir, I don't have a question. But the person sitting there is [fake name here], and he raped me." She stood there pointing at the guy.

Seriously, I'm the professor in that nightmare. Now I'm going to be afraid of dealing with that in my classes.

gilgigamesh:yeah, I figured something like this was the real "honor code violation" before I even clicked. She's being punished for making the school look bad. Keeping the epidemic of campus rape hush-hush is the only priority, and the result is: surprise! More rape.

Benjamin Orr:Jesus you guys and gals are really sexually abusing this thread

Point out where the thread said no to this. The thread consented, it's posters' word against the thread. The thread shouldn't have had a drink in our company, and shouldn't have dressed so provocatively. And since the thread didn't go to an authority, it must've liked it. One more thing: to the whomever that said it's just "putting a guy's hoo hoo dilly in a girl's cha cha", does that mean if that didn't take place, it wasn't sexual assault? Does that mean guys sticking broomsticks up another guy's ass, or someone forcing someone else into oral sex is not sexual assault? Or is it no big deal, and the assaulted needs to put some mud on it and get on with life?

JohnnyRebel88:True Story: My good friend that has the utmost credibility to me and others, and is a pussy, was accused of rape. The police did not follow through with the charges. She had cheated on her boyfriend with my friend, whom I believed he hated. Women wanna get f*d sometimes because they are whores, drunks and liars. This woman has no reason to do this if she was leading to his name, which I am sure she was doing, also is it not considered to be defamation as to the school's credibility. Unless this is a Sandusky type case, she should shut the f up and get help elsewhere.

This could of been personal, she also might of threatened the school. No info, no reason to be up in arms.

This thread is over the limit on trolls at this time. Try your troll again later.

Theaetetus:IgG4: Theaetetus: IgG4: She sounds like a trouble maker to me. Multiple accusations against various men, exploiting what ever means she has at her disposal to make her political position heard? Sounds like trouble to me.

Pharmdawg:Where the hell am I living? Did I go to sleep in the 20th century and wake up after honor and justice and decency were outlawed? Pedophile priests protected by popes, bungling bankers bankrolled by bureaucrats, and now rapists rudely razzed. WTF America?!

Someone fold up the flag and eat the last piece of apple pie...we're finished.

There has been too much violence. Too much pain. But I have an honorable compromise. Just walk away. Give me your pump, the oil, the gasoline, and the whole compound, and I'll spare your lives. Just walk away and we'll give you a safe passageway in the wastelands. Just walk away and there will be an end to the horror.

Theaetetus:IgG4: Theaetetus: IgG4: Theaetetus: IgG4: She sounds like a trouble maker to me. Multiple accusations against various men, exploiting what ever means she has at her disposal to make her political position heard? Sounds like trouble to me.

The proper response is, "oh, shiat, I didn't mean that seriously. Gosh, I now realize that was as inappropriate as McFarlane's jokes last night. I disavow that entire post and beg forgiveness."

Helpful tip: you can copy-paste the above via the edit menu.

Are you drunk? Look if you get raped you go to the cops and press charges then you let the DA take it from there. You don't file a complaint with the US Dept of Ed Office of Civil Rights. When you do that you look like an activist with an axe to grind, which in this case I think she probably is. How that makes me a psychopath I have no idea.

She complained to a state authority with state police, and only went to a federal agency because of their lack of response. But that's apparently not good enough for you, because you want to call her "an activist with an axe to grind" so that people will shut her up. Boy, you sure are angry at being called out on your own words.And I stand by my original declaration of your Farky. That's incredibly sociopathic, and there's really no excuse for the rest of us to stand idly by and let your words spew out unopposed. As long as people think you have any credibility, you're harmful to society.

IgG4:She sounds like a trouble maker to me. Multiple accusations against various men, exploiting what ever means she has at her disposal to make her political position heard? Sounds like trouble to me.

Cataholic:If I've learned anything from this thread, it's that all men either have raped someone or wish to rape someone or would rape someone given the chance, and that anyone who defends someone who probably did not rape someone is still a misogynist asshole because they are white-knighting someone who likely will rape or at the very least wants to rape someone.

I'm pretty sure that you have not, in fact, learned anything from this thread.

BarkingUnicorn:doglover: mesmer242: From what I can tell from the description of the "honor court", they got rid of the idea of lawyers and police officers, and made a bunch of college students both the judge and jury.

[i2.kym-cdn.com image 146x227]Seriously!?

It started out innocently enough. At first student courts handled only real "honor code" matters: cheating on tests, streaking, puking in the communal showers, noise violations, and other college idiocies that real courts shouldn't be bothered with. Then they became tools of the schools for covering up real crimes.

"You student justices have done so well! We think you're ready for more responsibilities."

The students ate it up, of course.

I AM THE LAW. But let's make this quick, I got some O-chem homework due tomorrow.

Weaver95:ok this has been fun but I gotta get up early in the morning. i'll check back tomorrow to see how deep the rabbit hole went and who I need to add to my 'women hating/pro-rape' list of GOP shills on fark.

..because she had no choice...she didn't like that and wanted another option. she was told 'honor court or nothing' and to STFU about it, not to mention it to the press and get over it.

not to mention that the 'court' was run by ill trained fellow students who did a sloppy job and might very well have let their own bias decide the 'case'. no appeals either, and don't talk about it to the press or you can kiss your degree goodbye.

Um, not exactly. She chose Honor Court because was persuaded that it would be easier and faster.

China White Tea:And really, I have to know: Who thought it would be a good idea to let some idiot children without with no significant legal education or bar licensing act as judges, juries, and legal counsel for sexual assault cases?

Dokushin:You know, no one had to tell me "not to rape." Just like no one had to tell me not to murder. Frankly, I find it pretty farking offensive when people say this -- that they think men have to be "trained" not to rape. There are criminals among us. We need to do more to look after their mental health and to perhaps cure them of the diseases that destroy their ability to reason. But men are not criminals, and they do not need to be taught how to have respect for others.

I guess you haven't been paying attention to the news or in Fark threads, because there sure is a hell of a lot of men being "trained" that it IS ok to rape. When you live in a society in which men have been brought up constantly bombarded with messages that some rape isn't "true rape," isn't "rape rape", isn't "legitimate rape," et cetera, or that "she deserved it because..." you can BET people worry that men need to be told to the contrary.

And I'm so very, very sorry that you find this offensive. I wasn't aware that your precious little feelings were more important than, say, NOT RAPING PEOPLE. Perhaps if I hunt long enough, I can find a suitably small violin to express my concern.

Thunderpipes:Genevieve Marie: Thunderpipes: When the Duke Lacrosse team is let out of prison?

The Duke Lacrosse team was exonerated, very publicly, and was not sent to prison.

It was also one case. Does it not strike you as odd that it's the only false accuser story people ever bring up?

It was a joke......

I do find it odd all these magical rapists are running around, not even getting kicked out of college, let alone charged with a crime, and they are all guilty. Sounds like a bunch of malarkey. Now, given how extremely liberal all colleges are as well, and a woman on the board no less telling the chick she is a douche, I side with the college. Months of this evil abusive boyfriend, and then she goes to the college to get the guy in trouble? She was right. First time a guy abuses you, leave. Christ, not like she was married with kids and dependent either. And she was depressed and had suicide attempts? Crazy chick.

The other girl with head wound, go to the police, let them handle it.

Thank you for putting your lack of understanding of human beings on display. It makes the ignore process much easier to use.

Thunderpipes:I do find it odd all these magical rapists are running around, not even getting kicked out of college, let alone charged with a crime, and they are all guilty. Sounds like a bunch of malarkey. Now, given how extremely liberal all colleges are as well, and a woman on the board no less telling the chick she is a douche, I side with the college. Months of this evil abusive boyfriend, and then she goes to the college to get the guy in trouble? She was right. First time a guy abuses you, leave. Christ, not like she was married with kids and dependent either. And she was depressed and had suicide attempts? Crazy chick.

Voiceofreason01:Theaetetus:Glad to know you guys have your talking points straight. It makes it easier to identify you.

Nowhere in the article or the articles posted in the comments does it say she went to the police and nobody has been charged with a crime. I'm not going to come and white knight a rapist but there's also no real evidence that the boyfriend raped anybody. I might believe that University is covering things up but are you asserting that the local and State police are just ignoring accusations of rape?

/Interestingly I have you farkied as a troll.

Yeah, you've called me a troll before, too. I bet you've found a lot of trolls on Fark, haven't you?

Theaetetus:I'm not a litigator. They're all a bunch of ulcer-ridden coke heads.

It's true that litigation is more stressful than almost any other practice of law (except family law), but medical studies have shown that stress does not actually cause ulcers. And we tend to drink Diet Coke or tea, because we're more health conscious than the fat f*cks doing transactional law.

BarkingUnicorn:The Daily Tarheel has some good journalism on this case.

FTA: "When I went to report my assault in 2007, I asked an administrator what the process would look like," Clark said. "Instead, that person told me, 'Rape is like a football game, Annie. If you look back on the game, and you're the quarterback and you're in charge, is there anything that you would have done differently in that situation?'"

Kaenneth:I know that women lie. Had a girl accuse me of 'undressing her with my eyes' in high school. No clue who she was, and I wasn't, because I'm gay.

So one woman, one time, misread the way you were looking at her and accused you of doing something rude but legal and your conclusion from this one relatively harmless interaction with one member of the gender that makes up half the human race is "Women are psycho liars who should be locked in camps"?

I don't automatically believe everything I read, noone does; otherwise we wouldn't have discussions about new articles.

I know that women lie. Had a girl accuse me of 'undressing her with my eyes' in high school. No clue who she was, and I wasn't, because I'm gay.

Reading stories like this makes me glad I am. Women will make up 'facts' to fit the emotional narrative they want, and are generally (not all of them...) horrible people to deal with. I would guess that large numbers of psycho-ex-girlfriends have done more damage to society than the few predominantly male serial/mass killers.

If I were King of the World, all women would be locked in (not forced) breeding camps until menopause. Grandmothers are OK.

doglover:Meanwhile, a man gets accused of rape, but proven innocent later, people still get all bent outta shape and want to lynch him years after because accusations make headlines but retractions get printed on the back page.

Where the hell am I living? Did I go to sleep in the 20th century and wake up after honor and justice and decency were outlawed? Pedophile priests protected by popes, bungling bankers bankrolled by bureaucrats, and now rapists rudely razzed. WTF America?!

Someone fold up the flag and eat the last piece of apple pie...we're finished.

Weaver95:Genevieve Marie:Yup. But isn't it fascinating how rape threads always reveal ingrained misogyny? People IMMEDIATELY question the victim, her story, how she handled it and the way she's speaking without bothering to find the facts. The first instinct for some is always to white night an accused rapist.

I don't think I will ever get to a place where I'm desensitized enough to not be creeped the hell out by that.

yeah, but with Limbaugh and Fox News and the religious right out there constantly training their followers to believe that women who claim rape are all lying whores...can you really be surprised when you see someone blame the rape victim instead of asking questions about what actually happened...?

I talk about feminism on the internet. Nothing misogynistic ever surprises me.

Genevieve Marie:She has not named her rapist publicly. She is not harassing him personally.

Which I noticed and it was the coolest thing all day. You could look up the man, but no one cares enough to do that. People just want a story. A good "I was raped and the government did nothing." gets people all fired up and angry at the police for not solving rapes.

The only better thing would be people who publicly accuse one person of a crime being charged with that crime themselves if it turns out their accusation was known to be false to them.

Theaetetus:Whup, got another sociopath! "If the rapist isn't convicted beyond a reasonable doubt, then the accuser is guilty of lying and we don't need trials or anything."Tag him and bag him.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't any kind of guilt supposed to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt before it is established? Or is merely asking this question enough to identify myself as a rapist sociopath?

In this country we talk about how women can avoid rape, or what she should do about a pregnancy that results from rape, but we do not tell our men not to rape.

I have had women friends show me whistles, steak knives, and other implements they carry with them at all times to hopefully ward off a rapist. I have sat in a room of 25 other college football players and heard them all agree that, if they were raping a girl anyway, they may as well sodomize her while they were at it. And I have seen teenage girls dragged through the mud by the media when they dare go public against their accusers.

Weaver95:Somacandra: Thunderpipes: So, the guy was charged with a crime?

Read the actual account linked to in the piece. She suffered a concussion and woke up covered in blood. She doesn't know who the rapist was. The point is when she tried to deal with how it affected her coursework, the university refused to cooperate and she found out that others had been treated similarly--thus leading a reasonable observer to conclude a systemic problem. I hate to say this, but as a faculty member I've had to deal with student victims (taking my classes) coming to me for help. Its incredibly sad and painful. And I'm not even the victim.

just skimmed that article. YIKES! if the school looked the other way after something that bad...what ELSE are they covering up!?

IgG4:Theaetetus: IgG4: She sounds like a trouble maker to me. Multiple accusations against various men, exploiting what ever means she has at her disposal to make her political position heard? Sounds like trouble to me.

So I'm sitting in Intro to Physics during my freshman year; it is the first day for the class that semester. The professor introduces himself, and gives his spiel about the course curriculum. He then asks if there are any questions.

A girl a few rows ahead of me raises her hand. The professor nods, and the girl stands up. In a shaky but determined voice she says, "Sir, I don't have a question. But the person sitting there is [fake name here], and he raped me." She stood there pointing at the guy.

Well the accused hurriedly excused himself from the room, and she sat back down. The professor decided that would be a good note to close on. Not sure if I saw either the accuser or accused after that day.