I was flying to KSTL from KCLT on UsAirways for recurrent F/A training back in April of '05. Even though most our EMBRAER 145's was full glass cockpits, I'm taking us all out with the flip phone I had at the time. LOL, I was flying in civilian clothes and had my line badge hidden. This F/A gave me a rash... Briefed me about having my cell phone on before we started ti even block out of the gate. I flashed my FAA/SITA badge and said I was okay.

I was pretty much thinkinking the same thing. Boeing is not hurting. I doubt we'll see Boeing going the way Lockheed did with their commercial airliners.
It's a shame what's going on with the MAX jets that were being touted as airlines were buying NG's. These airlines prebought the MAX before it's test flight. Budget airlines already had dibs on the MAX8 and MAX9 before it was even built. That should tell us why production was ramped up and sold quickly. That being said, where on this green and blue earth was quality assurance on the factory floor? Shit does roll down hill. I feel for whomever designed the MCAS software.

I wondered what would happen if say new technology came out, namely all glass cockpits there maybe misunderstandings by pilots if not properly trained in the new aircraft's systems. I'm not blaming the pilots who crashed their aircrafts, but there should have been an Air Directive briefed before they took the new model 737. Seems like back in my day our pilots had a new AD twice a month on the EMB 145's we flew.

All politics aside, I didn't think it was rushed as we all knew years prior the new version of the 737 was coming out. I'm blaming it on the corporate level and Boeong's investors for greed and quality control out the window. What happened to Total Quality Management ( TQM)?

I didn't know the RAF had a Vulcan stationed there. Those were a sight to see. I was stationed at RAF Mildenhall from 1990 to '92. Every year over Memorial Day weekend we would have our Air Fete. I did get to see the last one fly before the RAF finally retired them. Unfortunately some time after 9/11 the USAF or USAFE did away with Air Fete.

Great comment! I'm a former flight attendant and Air Transportation Specialist (basically a ground based loadmaster) for the USAF. I'm no pilot but I know a bit about flying. The glass cockpit is awesome and the instruments are a lot easier to read. CAT III has been around before I was born. There is such a thing as too much automation. These pilots were trying to do their jobs. I was always told just fly the plane, don't let the plane fly you. Unfortunately, these two crews had no choice in the matter.

I hate to bust on Boeing, but they're getting bad press lately. There was a United Express flight fro TYS to HOU the other day which the PIC diverted and told the pax two of the displays went out. The local news wanted to portray it as another 737 MAX fiassco. I don't know of any UA flights being mainline. Sure enough, it was a CRJ. Things like this do happen, despite the airframe manufacturers. There are so many subsystems you can't just blame Boeing or Airbus or EMBRAER or Bombardier. The purchaser of the aircraft gets to choose the avionics as well as the cabin layout. Those items are usually installed by a contractor.

I'm getting tired of what may have happened. We need pilots and support crew. As a flight attendant and a veteran of the US Air Force (MAC and then AMC) coordination and planning is very important. Rank was out the window while we worked together. As a flight attendant, after I did my preflight of the cabin, I would walk around with either captain or first officer for their preflight checks before I would let pax aboard.
Then again I went from '130's '141's and C5's I worked a regular civilian job until I got laid off and became a flight attendant as a joke. Next thing I knew I was tied into a jump seat of a Jetstream 4100.