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Thursday, June 21, 2007

Tim Blair, Australian extreme right-wing fascist/racist commentator, blogger, conspiracy theorist (he actually believes the US government’s conspiracy theory!) and host to equally extreme right-wing warmongers, Islamaphobes, right-wing Israeli Loony Lobbyists, right-wing Zionist supporters, and other assorted liars, deceivers and thugs, in short, the ugly face of anti-Islamic right-wing extremism in Australia, got short thrift on national TV earlier this week when ABCs Media Watch exposed the Tim Blair site for what it is – a disgusting example of the extreme right-wing racism that prevails in Australia.

Tim Blair’s response to Media Watch’s expose of the disgusting racist comments that Blair actively encourages and supports at his hate site was predictable. He snivels when he finds out that other editors were contacted by Media Watch’s editor, Tim Palmer, but he wasn’t, and then goes on to have a blast at Palmer about some incident in 2002 when Palmer caught Blair out in a deceit and threatened to sue. Blair conceded and apologised; fear of a big legal bill was his pathetic excuse.

The usual bunch of loony racist shills that roost at Blair’s Lair came out in support; Paco, El Cid who was featured in the Media Watch piece, and a small menagerie of other regulars including the proven liar, pseudo-intellectual and wannabe academic Dylan Kissane. The comments of some of these lunatics need to be seen to be believed.

The more often these people are exposed for what they really are on the mainstream media TV the better.

AND JUST TO PROVE THE POINT…

Since this piece has been posted, the flock of right-wing loonies that normally roost in contented flocks at Tim Blair’s hate site, fly off like a bunch of captive homing pigeons released for a little exercise to come to this site to deposit their droppings before heading back to their roost for a bit of self satisfied gloating.

Just take a look at the comments to see what I mean.

So predictable.

It seems that some of those commenting are labouring under the illusion that racism is just about blood and biology; it isn’t. There is also another racism, one that is even more prevalent than that of blood and biology and that is the racism of religion and culture. It's the kind of racism that most of those that have commented here indulge in.

IT SEEMS SOME ON THE RIGHT ARE STILL CONFUSED ABOUT 'RACISM'...

For the really dumb among the right-wing that either can’t cope with the idea that they are racist or are simply too thick to comprehend the concept of the new racism of religion and culture content only to quote definitions from some ancient dictionary, give this site a whirl or page 39, para. 2, of this UK report – you may actually learn something!

Well, you at least spelled fascist correctly. Maybe next time you crack open the dictionary you can read all those other words to the right of the bold-faced word. That's the definition part. It might come in handy.

We commenters at Blair's have objections to certain behaviors, including (but not limited to) suicide bombing, general bombing of uninvolved people, female circumcision, and the taking of shrieking offense at the normal processes of Western society. We object to those behaviors whether the perpertrator is Christian, Buddhist, Atheist, Islamic, or (as in your case) Imbecilic.

People who are currently perpetrating such behaviors are going to be criticised. Live with it, asshole.

I should point out to you that that description is inaccurate. You forgot to mention that many of us are Christians, and many others Jews. We are also, by and large, capitalists, automobile drivers, and enthusiastic embracers of new technology. Many of us are parents and grandparents as well, which I think would be referred to in your circles as "breeders." We are also, a reasonably honest lot, though prone to hyperbole and general smartassery; and so far as I know, none of us has been convicted of assault or crimes of dishonesty.

Please attempt to be more complete in your descriptions in the future. You might also want to work on developing a sense of humor, and on discerning the difference between a political or ideological opponent and a mortal enemy.

Hi Damien,I'm also a reader and commenter at Tim Blair's blog. I'm not going to respond angrily to your anger, I just want to say two things. Firstly, Islam is an ideology - a set of beliefs - not a race. To disagree with it or its followers is no more racist than disagreeing with, or hating, communism or capitalism.Secondly, in regards to conspiracy theories, it has become pretty clear that there are lots of people conspiring to commit acts of terrorism against America and its interests. Bali, London, Madrid, New York. These events aren't fiction, they happened- and even if you buy the whole "CIA was behind it" conspiracy theory, everyone agrees that these things were done with the support and approval of followers of the Islamic ideology.Feel free to rant some more.I know you're wrong, so I won't take offence.

We mainstream types only appear to YOU to be extreme right wing because you are looking at us through your high power multicultural binoculars from the far side of liberal-pussy land.

Those post-modern goggles should have a little sticker on the lens saying "rational people seen through this political viewpoint may appear to be more threatening than the suicide bomber standing next to you"

I somehow imagine you to have an iPod with "Imagine" on an endless loop....

Don't you Blairites realise Damian is going to delete all of these comments? The guy cannot handle criticism at all. He prefers to live in his anti-semitic world where hating America is always right and Israel is always wrong.

You cannot be rascist for criticising Islam. It is a religion you idiot. It contains members of probably all races on the planet. Or are you actually the rascist one, thinking that all Muslims are Arabs? Shame on you!

I think what you are saying is complete rubbish but I don't think you should be censored (or censured). Carrying all this hate around all day is going to make you sick. Go and get your blood pressure checked and have a good lie down. (oh and stop listening to the voices...)

Ill-feeling against a culture and/or a religion is another thing entirely - and racism ain't it.

And having ill-feeling against a religion (Islam) and culture (Wahabbism) which has been behind for the vast majority the world's terror attacks since World War Two, should be considered understandable, if not downright reasonable.

It demonstrates a paucity of understanding of the human condition if you:

1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

I don't see anything in there about religion. Arguments about the merits of different religions are usually termed "religious differences".

Racism is hating someone because of how they were born.

Not liking someone because of their religious beliefs is generally derived from the holder of those beliefs acting like a fuckwit. Note that I don't hate all muslims - I just hate those that care to prance around acting like fuckwits. I also dislike Christians and Jews and Budhists that do the same. It's just that most of the fuckwitism in the world today seems to derive from Islam. Ten years ago, we were more worried about the wackos were in Waco.

racism: n1. a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race2. racial prejudice or discrimination

If Islam didn't exist, it would be necessary for Tim Bleh to invent it, as the 'journalist' and his clique of paranoid sycophants have little else to write about.

If El Cid's comments were applied to Christians, Jews, Hindus, or Zoroastrians, everybody would agree that they constituted bigotry.If Muslims made the same comments about another religion, Tim Bleh would most likely have a post on his site about it, to highlight the nefarious nature of Islam's 'ideology'.

Bigotry is bigotry, whether directed at a race, creed, gender or sexual preference.It is one of life's great ironies that the semi-retarded defenders of teh West who've commented here are about as 'enlightened' as the anti-semites at Hamas. They're just barracking for a different team.

2. Why do you think it is wrong to be intolerant of a culture that supports the oppression of women, endorses slavery, shows a propensity to violence for any minor offence and whose adherents have stated that they want to commit genocide?

Nora, the comments on Blair's site that were highlighted by Media Watch related to Australian Muslims.I think everybody is in agreement that the laws and customs of Saudi Arabia, the Taliban, etc. are abhorrent.As far as Australian Muslims go - I've met plenty, and I'm yet to encounter a single one who supports genocide, or who is inciting violence against the West. On the other hand, Bleh's would-be brownshirts are quite happy to villify and demonise the Muslims. These degenerate freaks are the same sort of scum who would have been revelling in anti-Semitism circa 1930's Germany. They've found a new target in the 21st Century. That doesn't make them right.

Does this mean all Ford drivers aren't complete dickheads??? I never realised how racist I was until now. Thanks for the new definition.

By the way dropkick - you missed the fact that a lot of serving and ex-military and law enforcement types lurk in the Blair pit. if you are going to go hurling left wing abuse then you shouldn't leave out the good old military industrial complex you half arsed numpty.

If you come to Perth in the future, please make sure you advertise it so we can greet you appropriately. Did I mention the SAS are based in Perth??

But seriously, to Happy Revolutionary, thank you for your thoughtful reply but I must respectfully disagree with you.

While some of the language might be seen in grandma's circle as 'colourful', it is no more inciteful than wishing somebody (or a group of people) would 'drop dead' or 'go to hell'.

And I'm sure you'd agree that Tim Blair's commenters use language much less perjorative than that used in left-wing circles to describe Americans (George W Bush in particular), political conservatives and Christians.

It might be fair accuse some of Tim Blair's commenters of bad manners or improper etiquette, it hardly warrants the Nazi/fascist slander.

Palmer didn't ask Blair for a response because Blair never responds to media requests. He's refused a number of interviews with newspapers, the Sydney Morning Herald for starters, and refused to appear on SBS's talk show. But he loves all the attention he gets. Don't you Tim?

His readers worship him like a cult god, and the vast majority of them are neocon Americans, full of hate and intolerance.

Blair and his followers consistently single out one group (Muslims) to demonise. I have no problems with colourful language, but don't you think a remark calling Islam 'poison' (among others on Media Watch) is a bit beyond bad manners? If someone made similar comments about gays, Jews, Blacks, women, or any other group, would you be equally willing to write it off as bad etiquette?I don't take the fascist reference lightly. If, like me, you regard Nazi Germany as the worst crime ever perpetrated on humanity, why on earth would you encourage the same style of thinking in the 21st Century? Even if your ideological enemies engage in this sort of thinking, this is no justification.What the hell is acheived by Blair's propaganda campaigns against Australian Muslims?

If, like me, you regard Nazi Germany as the worst crime ever perpetrated on humanity,

Clearly the leftists Stalin and Mao were worse than the leftist Hitler.

What the hell is acheived by Blair's propaganda campaigns against Australian Muslims?

The fact is many people have concerns about islam, which are quite understandable given the violent nature of many of its practitioners. Even in Australia we have had to put up with the erratic anti-semitic behaviour of Thick Sheik Hilali. The goal of the left seems to be to silence all critical commentary.

Even if Blair's bile is shared by a supposed majority, it doesn't make it bile any the less.

Blair and his gaggle of attack dogs spit their venom at every muslim they can find, under the banner of free speech, and cry foul when other people use the same free speech to call out their pathetic behaviour.

The fact is Sharia Law is a crime against humanity. The religious doctrines that give rise to its principles like killing gays, disciplining your wife and generally treating women as inferior are in fact poison.

The more people who are prepared to question islam, to get it to face up to the modern world, the better.

Take the Danish cartoon crisis - fairly normal cartoons and all of a sudden riots around the world with over a hundred dead. Who are the savages here? What kind of poison caused these people to think they should dictate free speech laws in Denmark?

And now we have the Rushdie incident. What kind of poison caused a Pakistani parliamentarian to say that suicide bombing was an appropriate response to Rushdie's knighthood?

The left can't see the elephant in the room, and seems more interested in playing in the elephant's dung.

If you don't want to devalue the term "racist" to the point where it becomes a 'nothing' word, don't try to stretch its meaning to matters that don't relate to it. Keep it focused on the original meaning.

If you start flinging it around like confetti, soon no one will take any notice of it. Being called a racist will have no more bite than being acused of being a jaywalker.

You: "If, like me, you regard Nazi Germany as the worst crime ever perpetrated on humanity...". Well, yes I agree it's one of the worst if we put Stalin & Mao in that space too.

Then you say: "...why on earth would you encourage the same style of thinking in the 21st Century?".

You've lost me!

So let me get this straight. Demonising an ideology that wants to kill me, is the same as demonising/killing an entire race for no apparent reason?

Sorry, my history must be a little fuzzy. Can you please remind me about the Jews who blew up innocent Germans because I don't seem to recall anything about this being the catalyst for the Nazi's Final Solution. (Note: I am not advocating another Final Solution here).

You: "These degenerate freaks are the same sort of scum who would have been revelling in anti-Semitism circa 1930's Germany. They've found a new target in the 21st Century. That doesn't make them right."

Listen. Muslims are a target for abuse because they kill innocents and want to destroy my way of life. I reserve the right to detest anyone or any ideology that hates me for no apparent reason.

Just because you haven't met an Aussie Muslim who supports genocide, or who is inciting violence against the West doesn't mean they don't exist.

A very small minority of Muslims around the world conform to your stereotype ('they want to kill us'). You use this fact to justify the abuse they receive.

Let's look at Nazi Germany again. The Nazis perpetuated various anti-Semitic stereotypes as a basis for their racism. Does it therefore make sense to take all of their claims at face value, and evaluate the evidence to see if some Jews really do fit the stereotype? And if you find a Jew to fit the stereotype, does that justify everything?The point that I am making is that no amount of supposed 'evidence' will justify the abuse to which the Blairites subject Muslims. Bigotry has nothing to do with its object, and everything to do with the bigot.

It isn't interesting that on an article condemning Tim Blair for his "racism" and "support of conspiracy theories", this site should have so many of both? I mean take Media Watch's main complaint - unmoderated racist comments. I see that this blog allows posters to accuse Israelis of wanting to murder all Arabs. Undeleted. In a thread on how the Israeli economy was feeling the pressure of high-tech Lebanese exports and so they blew up all the competing businesses. This is based on the usual "friend of a friend I met in the pub" level of evidence. Come on Damien. You can do better.

I thought Damien's rant was ignorant, poorly thought out, and self-negating. Then I read this:

A very small minority of Muslims around the world conform to your stereotype ('they want to kill us').

That explains all the vocal opposition to terrorism among the world's Islamic peoples. Oh, there isn't any to speak of? And even among American Muslims, more than a quarter support terrorism in "defense" of Islam?

Never mind.

Wait, one more thing: Socialism, not Nazism, is the greatest crime ever perpetrated against humanity. Nazis did their best to be the world's biggest historical assholes, but they can't compete with 100 million corpses in the 20th century alone.

You are mid-term in your candidature for a PhD that seeks to analyse neo-conservatism in the aftermath of 911. At the same time, you publish commentary on neo-conservatism in the aftermath of 911 at a personal web log.

As a candidate for the degree of PhD, you are required by university regulations to alert and obtain permission from the Social and Behavioural Research Ethics Committee (SBREC) for any research that is social in its focus.

Have you obtained such permission with regard to commentary on your web log rearding Tim Blair? Have you obtained such permission with regard to numerous comments posted on your web log rearding Tim Blair's post?

I would like to propose that your web log commentary on Tim Blair constitutes research for your PhD.

If so, the SBREC's Ethical Guidelines for Social and Behavioural Research provide some useful guidelines:

"Before any approach is made to potential participants or the commencement of collection ofany data, staff and students who intend to undertake any research project involving humansubjects must obtain approval from the appropriate University ethics committee."

Have you obtained such permission?

The same document goes on to say the following:

"Researchers have ethical and legal responsibilities towards their subjects and shouldtherefore observe the following principles:

Integrity, Respect for Persons, Beneficence and Justice

1. The guiding value for researches is integrity, which is expressed in a commitment tothe search for knowledge, to recognised principles of research conduct and in thehonest and ethical conduct of research and dissemination and communication ofresults.

2. The researcher must have respect for persons, expressed as regard for the welfare,rights, beliefs, perceptions, customs and cultural heritage, both individual andcollective, of persons involved in research.

3. Researchers have a responsibility to minimise risks or harm or discomfort toparticipants.

4. The research protocol must be designed to ensure that respect for the dignity and wellbeing of the participants takes precedence over the expected benefits to researchknowledge."

Are you comporting yourself in the public arena in such a way?

I strongly advise you to go and read this document, which is the full version from which the above quotes are lifted.

A failure to do so, or to alter your public commentary and collection of data for your PhD research, will result in an unsuitable outcome, I'm sure.

Should you have any questions, you can direct them to Sandy Huxtable on (08) 8201 5962, or email: sandy.huxtable@flinders.edu.au

That a PhD student and recipient of a university medal at Flinders is deeply disappointing.

Truly hilarious rabid responses with all the usual antirational accusations against THULEFT!

My my, these historians count Hitler as a leftist, no doubt forget that Pol Pot was legitimized by the US, ignore the Spanish American war, the Shah of Iran, Pinochet, gloss over the Central American massacres etc etc etc And never will they admit that more people have died under American assault than all the others combined. I suppose they've failed to notice that GWB's unitary executive maneuverings are those of a dictator and America has become a state whose government is totally dominated by corporativism, which is a polite way of saying fascism.

How quaint, but should they be taken seriously?

Hardly, but it doesn't bode well for winning back our prior moves toward liberal democracy. 'Twas a nice idea though.

Don't feel too bad my friend. Tim Blair is equally racist against Anglo-Australians. Although it is more cryptic (wants to keep them fightin Arabs, you know..). Take this "in-house" grab he recently highlighted from one "Spiny Norman."

' "Sheesh," writes Spiny Norman'.

For those who don't know, "Sheesh", from "shiksa," is a jewish term of abuse for christian women. It means slut. Hey, there is even a movie called Shiksa, you can pay to see!

These people have totally closed minds Craig. It would be a complete and utter waste of time explaining anything to them. The best that we can do is simply point out that these people exist and expose them for the oafish and infantile lunatics that they are – which was the purpose of this exercise in the first place. They are totally predictable and utterly incapable of even attempting to make any intellectual justification for their stance. Just mindless hate.

G'day Damian, I noticed today that some fools elsewhere think the story of Hellfire 'anti-armour' missile Lot No. MG188J315-534 has something to do with the Gaza Beach incident last year.

Obviously they have no idea and no interest in learning that the IDF should be as scrutinized as any other occupying force in the world.

If these blatantly biased bastards should look into what happened near UN Checkpoint 1-23 (which is near the Lebanese village of Mansouri hundreds of kms from Gaza)then they'd learn the story of MG188J315-534 and what the IDF pilot who fired it at an ambulance in 1996 did to a 2 month old girl, 9 year old and 5 year old brothers, and an 11 year old girl and her 60 year old aunt.

G'day Damian, further to my earlier comment today, it may be that the fools were talking about what a SPIKE fired by an IDF drone did to ambulances 782 and 777 outside the Qana memorial. That was about ten years after fragments of Hellfire 'anti-armour' missile Lot No. MG188J315-534 were found by a Swedish officer following the 1996 murder of two women and four children from Mansouri as I've described. Shows how much those fools 'know'.

A comprehensive list Craig; thanks for that. I hope bloggers will bear that list in mind and use it to research the details of these atrocities.Have you read Illan Pappe's book 'The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine'?

G'day Damian, I've not (as yet) read Ilan Pappe's The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, but I understand it is a must read for anyone (whether Israeli, Palestinian, or otherwise) who is genuinely interested in a well-founded understanding of the situation. I'll have read it before the year's out.

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