In 2015, the Ukrainian authorities said that the Ukrainian Armed Forces could not bring down the Malaysian Boeing because of the lack of Buks. However, last weekend the Ukrainian Buk SAM launcher crashed into the wall of a shopping center in Kiev in preparation for the parade.

The fact that the Ukrainian authorities are lying like they breathe is not news for a long time. Remember that one of the officials said 3 years ago, when Russia was charged with the destruction of the flight MH-17?

Adviser to the President of Ukraine, Igor Smeshko, at a conference on security in Brussels said that Ukraine sold the last missile complex Buk to Georgia long before the plane crash in Donbass, Interfax-Ukraine reported.

I quote, “As far as I know, Ukraine sold the last Buk to Georgia,” he said.

And here is a link to a Ukrainian source. If Kiev sold the last Buk to Tbilisi, then what was it that hit the wall of the shopping center in the Ukrainian capital on August 18?

*Video of Buk accident plays*

Here is some more footage from a different angle so that there wouldn’t be any doubts in what really happened.

*Another video plays*

On the video are “non-existent” Ukrainian Buks. One stays, not aligned to turn, another – passes by. How do you like that, advisor to President Poroshenko?

Even if we set aside the question of the lack of professionalism of the servicemen of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, because of which such an accident was generally possible, there is still room for conversation. But for understandable political reasons, the West will deny to the last that it was the Ukrainian military that was brought down by the Malaysian Boeing.

Since to recognize this means to admit that the campaign, which has been dragging on for several years, on blaming Russia and the DPR militia, is an act of information war. Therefore, the Kiev accident of the Buk is quietly closed, as are uncomfortable questions about whether the Ukrainian Armed Forces has any Buks.

However, it seems that there is one point that Western sponsors of Ukraine are not going to hover, because it is connected with the saint for every American and European phenomenon – which is money.

Here’s what lawyer Andrei Smirnov said on August 19 in Facebook, at one time he was the first to learn from the sources about the rest of Petro Poroshenko in the Maldives.

I quote: “Friends, do you remember this winter I was the first to report on the Maldivian holiday of Poroshenko? The same friend called again. Yesterday, the Federal Court in Washington handed over to the pre-trial check and verification of financial special documentation for persons involved in the theft of US public funds and organized criminal traffic of funds derived through fictitious government support programs.”

It is about the means of the US federal budget and the funds allocated within the framework of the IMF’s target program to support countries with nascent democracy.

The organizers are the Ukrainian side – Petro Poroshenko, from the side of the Republic of Moldova – Vladimir Plahotniuc.

Another important aspect. Since Poroshenko has a residence permit in Switzerland (Canton of Zug), and Mr. Plahotniuc has Romanian and Russian passports, the FBI has also joined the case.

The materials of the case already contain the resolutions of both Mike Pence and Mike Pompeo. The audit will take from 25 to 60 days under federal law, after which the materials will be returned to the court and the proceedings on the merits commence.

In short, Moldova as an emigration zone for the president also disappears. Throwing in or not throwing in – time will tell.

Here you go. While the “non-existent” Ukrainian “Buks” cut through Kiev, touching the walls, clouds may possibly hang over Pyotr Alekseyevich [Poroshenko].

No, it is not at all necessary that Poroshenko will get to the same place where former Ukrainian Prime Minister Pavel Lazarenko was sitting. Just having a lethal compromising information about embezzling American money can make the chocolate president even more manageable.

And who knows what target will then be fired at by the “non-existent” Ukrainian Buk?

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I don’t remember any denial from Orcland about having Buk systems in inventory before, during or after the massacre of Flt. MH-17.

It is common knowledge, sources all over the ‘net, that (choose one) four or six Orc Buk units were in the general area of the shoot down, and withdrew within hours, or perhaps moments, of the shoot down. The common opinion of any sentient being with the mental capacity above that of an amoeba crawling through protozoan mush is the orcs shot the bird down.

Orc Buk units are seen often in various parades and events in Orcland, source the internet for verification, I’m not going to bother at this time of evening. Perhaps one should research what is in effect common knowledge before coming up with some specious informations involving the orcs, and I’m sure many of you who read this blog know exactly what my feelings are concerning said orcs. A pox on the lot of them.

Sevastopol, The Third Defense. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZGCY8KK Book 1, A Premonition, The Move South. Set against a backdrop of real events and real places, the reader is left to filter fact from fiction.

That Malaysian airliner was not shot down by a BUK. By now it’s well known what happened.

On that fateful day President Vladimir Putin’s plane was in the air, flying close by to the Malaysian airliner. Kiev had the bright idea of assassinating President Putin. It sent at least one, possibly two SU-24 fighter bombers, armed with air to air missiles, which have a range of 10 km. It was then that the Ukrainian pilot (or pilots) made a horrible mistake. They mistook the Malaysian airliner for President Putin’s plane, as both aircraft had similar logo colors. One air to air missile was fired, which hit the port engine of the airliner (there is a video which shows this). As the aircraft began to fall, the pilot (or pilots) fired 30 mm armor piercing cannon shells into the cockpit, killing the pilots.

When the plane crashed, photographs were taken of the cockpit. You can clearly see 30mm cannon holes on the cockpit. What is indicative is that you have entry and exit holes on both sides of the cockpit, something round ball bearings from a BUK missile are incapable of doing.

Everybody knows what happened. The problem for the West is how to hush this whole affair. Yes, Russia is accused, but the accusations are so unconvincing, bearing in mind the available evidence, which clearly shows that the airliner was attacked by combat aircraft.

The result of this is that President Putin’s plane takes every precaution while flying the President, in some cases being escorted by Russian combat aircraft.

B.F. Well said. I addressed the Buk foolishness, but evidence of SU 24’s is extant, one of which may have been shot down, and as you said, photos of the wreckage clearly shows entrance and exit holes in the left side cockpit skin, plus the original photos of the pilot (rapidly removed from ‘net and other sources but I’ve got them) show four wounds from his right front side and center chest and abdomen.

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Photographs of the cockpit with 30 mm cannon holes were shown on the Internet. Millions saw them. The West is now having a tough time solving this mess, doing it’s utmost to absolve Kiev of the crime.

That’s right, the Malaysian airliner was not shot down by a Buk. The East German (former NVA) Buk missile system professional Bernd Biedermann, for instance, (also recently at RT Deutsch) completely destroys that notion.

But I don’t think Putin’s plane, which was nowhere near Donbass anyway, has much to do with it.
It was a gruesome, and very disgusting NATO (vulgar lying NATO media) false flag operation/hoax (MH17 = MH370), almost too disgusting to talk about even. Some (e.g. Strelkov, Veterans Today) did tell the whole truth, though.
The AngloZionists desperately needed a pretext for more (European) sanctions on Russia. That was their main objective. But they very well might’ve planned it intentionally simultaneously with Putin’s flight over Eastern Europe, just in order to intimidate.

Both MH flights stories(17 and 370) are connected to Israel mossad and Amsterdam airport (substitution of aircraft).The AMS airport security company there is owned by some oscure isreali companies belonging to the Israeli military complex.

Which is why the Dutch regime issued a report like the Bush regime’s 911 report — closed to outside verification. Ever since Holland covered up the El Al chemical weapons spillage at Scheephol, and joined the Bush /Blair / Netanyahoo Coalition of the Killing against Iraq, it has been obvious that The Hague is owned by Royal Dutch Shell, one of the largest corporations in the AZC sphere.

Senator McCain clamored for war in Syria before other Western states started to hum to the same tune, and was eager to ingratiate himself with “moderate rebels.” The senator repeatedly lobbied for “rebels” to be given military aid from the US, and called for cruise-missile strikes on the country’s legitimate government.

In Libya, he also praised the “heroic” actions of anti-government rebels, many of whom were in fact connected to Al-Qaeda. Like in Syria, McCain called for military aid for the rebels and cruise-missile strikes on government targets.

Syria is now in the seventh year of a bloody civil and foreign-proxy conflict, and Libya is a failed state and a center of the modern slave trade since its government was toppled.

Further back, McCain lobbied for and supported the US wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, which directly cost America an estimated $1.7 billion as of 2016, and cost tens of thousands of civilian lives. On Iraq, McCain said that US troops should occupy the war-torn country for “maybe 100” years.

And most recently, McCain turned his attention to Russia, whose president he accused of leading an “assault on the foundation of our democracy.” McCain’s assertion, made in his latest book ‘A Restless Wave’, was not backed with any evidence, but that did not stop the Republican firebrand from calling for the US to “cyber bomb” Russia.

”And most recently, McCain turned his attention to Russia, whose president he accused of leading an ’assault on the foundation of our democracy’ ”

That was maybe the very last truth he uttered before his descent into the vapors of sulfur. Russia and her allies are most certainly wreaking havoc on the Exceptional and Indispensable parasites living at the expense of the world’s overwhelming majority. The screamfest against Putin in the corporate media isn’t just for giggles.

Imagine the elated, monumental pride of the Ukro garbage had they killed Vladimir Putin with that BUK — instantly corroborated by a boost of Western gratification as the saviours of freedom and democracy. Nobel peace prize and all that. McCain is to be lamented for the abysmally poor performance everywhere of his soulmates.

I think Poor_Old_Shenko will soon be joining his beloved Pindo idol. McCain especially would be very proud to be participating again in another ferocious Maidan — in Hell, there is an unlimited supply of Fire and Evil!

And not to put too fine point on it, I recall reading that an air traffic controller, a Spaniard I believe, Tweeted something to the effect that fighter jets were present in the airspace along side MH17. This was immediately after the tragedy.

Very shortly thereafter, his Twitter account disappeared and no one seems to have heard about this since. I wish I had screenshots.

Dial forward to today. Just this week, the US Treasury Department announced the latest round of sanctions against Russia over cyber-attacks. This followed sanctions issued last week over Russia’s alleged involvement in the Skripal poisoning in the UK. A few weeks before that, we sanctioned Russia over election meddling. Before that, it was a couple of rounds of cyber-related sanctions, before that three rounds of Ukraine-related sanctions…the list goes on and on; honestly, it’s very hard to keep track.So, Russia is once again our enemy. Cyber-attacks and election meddling aside, just what the hell is going on anyway? Why won’t those Russians just leave us alone?

With the injection of partisan politics into the Russian containment policy, and lists once again being prepared in Washington to name names, and Russian conspirators being found under, or in, every bed, we can only expect more sanctions going forward, if only because that is the only tool left in Washington’s toolkit short of war.

Assuming our experts in Washington don’t decide to use the last tool in the toolkit, someday perhaps we will once again be able to watch that old movie “The Russians are Coming” and see it for the comedy it is.

What a fascinating topic. What can we tell from what we see here?
-Existence of Ukrainian BUKs was once denied by only one Ukie official. Ukrainian government even used their modernized of BUKs for marketing of their “combat readiness” on some parades. So this video is an overreaction to rather insignificant statement and therefore it’s persuading potential vary from weak to negative. I wonder why it was published here.
-What we see form another comments is a mix of opinions where even people with probably good insight into the matter have doubts about “BUK theory” presented in official reports and calling in some other planes to make things clear.
-Russian analysis of the case on the other hand concludes, that it was BUK and argues about the version of the warhead used with official report. No planes are mentioned in Russian report, while some radar data were presented and even provided to dutch investigation team
-Russian report with “BUK version” surfaced only after “plane version” was no longer consistent with the radar data presented.
-inconsistence of the presented evidence is often indicative sign of manipulated narrative – like in Skripals case, for example
-while many people here cannot find some common point of view about what happened, they are sure about what didn’t happened, but this is believe based on emotions tovwards the Ukies rather than facts
-I don’t claim to know what happened to MH17, but based on observation of available arguments in public discussion it seems that official report contains very probable version of the event and most consistent one.

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