I'd like to tackle a subject that keeps coming up here, but has never been fully explored. The question is asked in many different ways, but basically what they are all trying to get a handle on is this: In a prolonged SHTF scenario, to what extent would formal military training and experience contribute toward the survivability of their family, survival group, militia, and (ultimately) their race? This is definitely a 2-part answer, so read on.

As it pertains to small unit tactics, combat weaponscraft, and all things normally associated with 'soldiering', the know-how of most US troops is generally quite poor; and in many instances may be more hindrance than help. I am not referring here to Rangers, SEALs, Airborne, Delta Force or any elite units, but to the other 99% of the armed forces, the regulars. US troops almost invariably enjoy overwhelming advantages over their adversaries: superior equipment, weapons, intel, re-supply, air support, communications, medevac, on and on, and that is how they win. How much of this does your group expect to have?

So, do veterans and active troops have anything of unique value to offer their respective WN units? Absolutely. Here's why: In any kind of major societal breakdown, the military will be involved, no question about that. We do not know the form that conflict will take, or whether our troops will be 1) nominally in our favor (crushing black insurrection, assisting dpeortation efforts, opposing incursions by mexican troops along our borders); 2) race-neutral (relief efforts, guarding food distribution centers, oil refineries, escorting fuel truck convoys); or 3) directly aligned against us (forced evacuations, searches, seizures, enforcement, mandatory 'hosting' of indigents, gun raids, etc.)

In all cases, but especially the last one, having at least one member who knows what the army does would be invaluable. A soldier automatically knows other soldiers; how they are training, their strength, their morale. He knows all the bases in his area, how to get around on them, and the nature and number of troops stationed there. He can dress, act, and speak the part. Mil-speak (military jargon and acronyms) is not easy, you almost need to have lived it for a while. These are just a few of the things even the lowert-ranking NCOs are familiar with. Specialists and officers will have much broader knowledge. I will leave it to your imagination as to how all this could be put to use by an able WN commander.

In summary, if we are ever pitted against our own governmnt enforcers, these uniformed WN confederates may become some of our most valuable members. Every group should be grooming their own 'man on the inside' right now.

I've never been in the military but my dad has and he's imparted a lot of the skills and wisdom he accumulated during his years (especially his experiences in 'Nam) to me. There's many things I know and knowledge I have thanks to him and the way he raised me to be and I'm real grateful to him for teaching me all those things that I now know that I'm gonna need in the coming years as we fight for our survival as a race and nation.
IMO we must first focus on developing survivalist skills, know how to shoot straight, live out in the wilderness, hunt our own food, and wean ourselves from any dependance on external sources ie government aid which only serves to weaken us and limits our liberty and will to do what is gonna be necessary if we're to survive the armageddon which surely awaits us if we're indisciplined and unprepared.
Trust in God Almighty and keep your powder dry as they say

I agree in that military training for MOST will not make you a John Rambo in a SHTF situation, however at least servicemen will at least have some basics that others might not. In the case of officers, you will have leadership training and military history which in itself can be invaluable. I have found that most WN's....at least the ones I have met, are very well practiced in firearms proficiency, camping, hunting and other outdoor survival. Most of the time in a much greater depth than the average miliary man. I will say though that many WN's are not up to the physical fitness requirements!!!! Throw a little P.T. in there every now and then please!!!! I am sick of 300+ pound "chairborn Rangers". Compared to the average Joe though....military personell have at least worn battle gear, passed their PT test, and passed on a shooting range. Many average Joe's from the city have not even fired a gun, tried the gear or done any more PT than their morning jog (at best). So in that sense it may be useful to have prior military experience. A problem I have seen with servicemen and law enforement (esspecially law enforcement) is an over confidence. I helped a law enforcement instructor one year when he was recerting people for firearms qualification. There were about 33 people there shooting. Most of them shot fair, but only one was fantastic.....sadly he was a middle aged black man. Needless to say, I shot too and put them to shame (had to do a bit of bragging), although the black guy had me sweating.....I will give him credit....he was good. The point is....WE ALL should be able to shoot like sharpshooters, and NEVER get over confindent!!!!! There will always be someone better than you are. Unless you have some special ops training, you might have more to learn from the country boy than you have to teach.

Each branch of the service has it's own dialect of lingo as well. There is also rivalry between the forces. For example, Marines and Army despise eachother.....The Marines and the Navy get along fairly well althogh there is some rivalry there too.....as the Air Force and Army are chums themselves. One such lingo term that will identify you is the term....."Ship Out" versus "Deploy"....both of these mean the same thing, but depending upon what branch you are will determine what comes natural to you. The lingo is available to the general public and I think anyone who actually took the time to learn it could, however unless you are or were in the service I have no idea why you would want to. The military ABC's would be benifitial and everyone should learn the General Orders of the Sentry.

These are the one's that the Marines and Navy use.....I might be a bit partial

1st Order to the Sentry Take charge of this post and all government property in view.
2nd Order to the Sentry Walk my post in a military manner, keeping always on the alert, and observing everything that takes place within sight or hearing.
3rd Order to the Sentry Report all violations of orders I am instructed to enforce.
4th Order to the Sentry Repeat all calls from posts more distant from the guardhouse or the quarterdeck than my own.
5th Order to the Sentry Quit my post only when property relieved.
6th Order to the Sentry Receive, obey, and pass on to the sentry who relieves me, all orders from the commanding officer, command duty officer, officer of the day, officer of the deck, and officers and petty officers the watch only.
7th Order to the Sentry Talk to no one except in the line of duty.
8th Order to the Sentry Give the alarm in case of fire or disorder.
9th Order to the Sentry Call the corporal of the guard or officer of the deck in any case not covered by instructions.
10th Order to the Sentry Salute all officers and all colors and standards not cased.
11th Order to the Sentry Be especially watchful at night, and during the time for challenging, challenge all persons on or near my post, and to allow no one to pass without propery authority.

These can be QUITE useful in radio communications or interpreting them also....LEARN to use a GPS!!!

A fine post, Reb, very thorough. Glad to hear you won your match that day. Most minorities are atrocious shots, but that's not something we want to depend on. Besides, vermin usually run in packs. As WN's, we shouldn't be striving for mere proficiency or 'tactical equality', but absolute mastery of our defensive weapons. It was during impromptu and formal competitions that I first got wind of the deficiencies of most of our servicemen.

You seem well acquainted with the tactical scene, so perhaps you can advise me as to why I have been so unsuccessful recruiting WN's from those circles. Plenty of conservatives, sure, but racialists, no.

With all due respect, I served in the regular army, I was curious on where my superior equipment was because I never seen any of it.
But I see the point that your trying to make.

When I served the Marines had a lot less night vision equipment and very old weapons. I got to meet a lot of Marine grunts and talk shop. Their armored units didn't even have M-1 tanks in the first gulf war!