PK: More Von love; watching Elway

Rookie linebacker Von Miller’s a keeper, and while the mania over Tim Tebow’s play is the talk of the Rocky Mountain region, the Miller-led Broncos defense is the real reason why they’ve been able to come back late in scintillating games…What those who have watched Miller all season have seen is the speed, the power and the effort…Paired with Elvis Dumervil, there aren’t many better bookend pass-rush tag-teams playing right now.

More from PK: "Elway looked like he was clapping for the unknown 298th graduate in his kid's 400-person graduating class when Tim Tebow led the Broncos to the winning score against the Jets eight nights ago. If I'm the CBS crew in San Diego Sunday, I've got a camera trained on Elway's seat any time Tebow gets in the red zone."

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#10 Tombstone: good point. Let &#8216em give all the congrats to Miller and forget about Allen.

Oh and thanks to you Doug and the whole team for keeping the content flowing even over Thanksgiving. Fat Man Madden himself would surely have a Turkey Leg with your name on it!

Posted by Tombstone on 2011-11-25 23:04:08

Doug thanks for the heads up on the Mitchell & Ness $100 jersey offer in yesterday&#8217s lard. Not a HUGE selection of jerseys, but some good ones are still left in sizes smaller than 4XL. The XXXII Terrell Davis is a Bronco classic and marked down from $300!

@jtomasik #3: i see where you&#8217re coming from, although not sure Bailey deserves to be singled out if not Miller. Our coaching on D, lead by Allen, seems really promising, and I for one am happy if that gets overlooked by other teams/their fan bases/the MSM giving too much credit to individual players, thereby keeping Allen&#8217s name off other HC candidate lists a little longer.

Posted by Tombstone on 2011-11-25 22:40:54

broncosmontana, thanks for that link. Orton wasn&#8217t great on 3rd down by NFL standards, but Tebow is horrid.

I just got done watching the Jets game (again). There weren&#8217t that many drops, but there were a lot of lousy passes. And, even the ones that Tebow did complete, many were not good placement. Tebow needs to start taking advantage of the opportunities he&#8217s given when passing&#8230otherwise, like BroncosMT says, he&#8217s just killing the confidence of the management staff in opening the game up.

I wonder if the staff is seeing progress in Tebow&#8217s throwing mechanics. He&#8217s on his 2nd year in the NFL&#8230ya&#8217d think something would be evident by now.

Posted by jtomasik on 2011-11-25 18:47:58

Sorry for going off on the Tebow tangent on one of the few non-Tebow articles. Now back to the discussion of how awesome our new QB killer is&#8230 hahaha

Posted by broncosmontana on 2011-11-25 18:14:28

Of particular interest to me in SD Guy&#8217s analysis is Tim&#8217s performance on 3rd and 4-7 yds. I assumed that in those situations his passing was probably not great, and that most of those conversions were done with his feet. Those things are true, but to a much worse degree than I&#8217d assumed. 1 of 16 passing and 4 of 13 rushing is not getting it done.

Posted by broncosmontana on 2011-11-25 18:12:43

To clarify my last comment, I don&#8217t doubt he can play well on 3rd down in live game conditions. I just doubt that that is the best environment for him to learn those skills.

Posted by broncosmontana on 2011-11-25 18:05:21

My read on the clapping thing, from the moment it happened, is that Elway was thinking what I was thinking. We scored too soon and gave the Jets another chance with the ball. You never complain about or apologize for a touchdown when it&#8217s there for the taking, so that&#8217s not on Tim, but you do hope to eat up the clock a little more than we did on that drive.

Vic and Gary asked him if that&#8217s what was going through his mind at the time, and he said it was. Some have speculated he was just rolling with their explanation as a way of hiding his disappointment that we scored. If you think Elway is ever disappointed with a Broncos touchdown, you&#8217re insane.

The third down thing cannot be underestimated. Tim needs to improve on those conversions or he&#8217s not going to be our long term answer there. SD Guy posted a pretty good analysis of our 3rd down performance over at MHR the other day, if you haven&#8217t seen it.

In my view, Tim needs to demonstrate enough growth over the remainder of the season to give Elway confidence that he can improve with coaching during the offseason. If the growth isn&#8217t there, Tim won&#8217t be either. Personally, I see no reason to believe Tim can&#8217t improve in that area with the right coaching. My concern is whether he can improve those skills in live game conditions. I kind of doubt it.

Posted by broncosmontana on 2011-11-25 18:02:40

You, it is funny. When I watched the full replays, I see Elway being extremely animated when Tebow first scores, then he becomes distracted while clapping. But the media is only showing the distracted clapping, not the initial reaction. I guess it makes better drama for building the legend if all are arrayed against you&#8230

Posted by DCJ on 2011-11-25 17:37:14

Ok, now I&#8217m one of the biggest Von Miller fans out there, but I&#8217m tired of the media saying things like, &#8220....the Miller-led defense is the real reason why&#8230.&#8221

It&#8217s a team game. The cornerbacks are a huge part of why we see successful second and third sack efforts, as are the safeties. The offensive line is playing a big part in Tebow&#8217s running success. The special teams are, for once in a long, long time, special.

No doubt Miller is one of the biggest impact players on the team. But, I&#8217d bet his success wouldn&#8217t be as good (albeit probably not by much, though) if Bailey wasn&#8217t taking away pass opportunities to the top receivers.

Oh, and King should listen to what Elway said about that. Elway said he wasn&#8217t too excited because there was still time left on the clock for the Jets offense to take the field. The game wasn&#8217t over. Those media morons sure know how to stir the pot with minimal information.

Posted by jtomasik on 2011-11-25 17:06:32

Get it right, Peter. If I&#8217m the CBS crew in San Diego Sunday, I&#8217ve got a camera trained on Elway&#8217s seat on *every third down*.

Posted by broncosmontana on 2011-11-25 17:01:11

Good to see MSM giving Miller the proper love.

He will get DROY. Maybe even Defensive POY if we keep winning and he can get to 15 sacks. Amazing.