Fizics:I have been a special education teacher for years, specializing in IEP's (Individual Education Plans) and I can tell you the push is on to eliminate guns from our schools completely. I have had fathers blatantly tell me they encourage their children in all kinds of violent play at home. I do not hesitate to recommend a child receive special courses and be separated from their peers if they show signs of "gun-orientated" play and it is a dangerous precedent to allow it to continue without censure from the school. I have heard too many "It's just a Lego gun!" or "It's a drawing! It's just a drawing!" (usually laced with profanity, which doesn't earn their children points with me) to be a part of ignoring this problem.

So parents, if you want your children to advance with the rest of their classmates, do us all a favor and leave the violence at home with yourselves, don't contaminate the rest of the children.

As I stated in the other discussion: the concern is not necessarily the image of the firearm, but rather the reminder, created by the image, that citizens will now be able to legally carry firearms in public. The thought of legally armed citizens terrifies a number of people. Those individuals are confronted with the reality that any person whom they observe in public may possibly be legally carrying a concealed firearm. This then creates the overwhelming concern that they will suddenly be shot, without cause, by an armed citizen who suddenly experiences a psychotic break. Every step they take outside now will be dominated by the constant, overpowering dread that at any moment a bullet will strike them.

AngryDragon:Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: We really need some sort of common sense authority in place, people who are sane, well-adjusted, and emotionally stable, who have the power to review people in public office like this and go "Yeah, sorry, you're clearly a lunatic and you shouldn't even be in charge of a mall information kiosk, let alone a god damn public school. Gtfo!"

The field of education chased off anyone who was sane, well-adjusted, and emotionally stable long ago. It has become an echo chamber of the same ideas ricocheting between the same people year in and year out. The scary thing is that they're educating our kids.

You know, if I were designing a system that would guarantee a lack of intellectual diversity, I don't think I could come up with one better than the tenure system.

Sure, at first it seems to be a guarantee of intellectual freedom, until you realize that they are selected by the other faculty. Eventually, it results in a sort of ideological inbreeding where only the ones who think as all the others get to stay.

Fizics:I have been a special education teacher for years, specializing in IEP's (Individual Education Plans) and I can tell you the push is on to eliminate guns from our schools completely. I have had fathers blatantly tell me they encourage their children in all kinds of violent play at home. I do not hesitate to recommend a child receive special courses and be separated from their peers if they show signs of "gun-orientated" play and it is a dangerous precedent to allow it to continue without censure from the school. I have heard too many "It's just a Lego gun!" or "It's a drawing! It's just a drawing!" (usually laced with profanity, which doesn't earn their children points with me) to be a part of ignoring this problem.

So parents, if you want your children to advance with the rest of their classmates, do us all a favor and leave the violence at home with yourselves, don't contaminate the rest of the children.

Assuming you're not trolling, 10/10 if you are, thank you for giving us a glimpse into the mind of the enemy.

Fizics:I have been a special education teacher for years, specializing in IEP's (Individual Education Plans) and I can tell you the push is on to eliminate guns from our schools completely. I have had fathers blatantly tell me they encourage their children in all kinds of violent play at home. I do not hesitate to recommend a child receive special courses and be separated from their peers if they show signs of "gun-orientated" play and it is a dangerous precedent to allow it to continue without censure from the school. I have heard too many "It's just a Lego gun!" or "It's a drawing! It's just a drawing!" (usually laced with profanity, which doesn't earn their children points with me) to be a part of ignoring this problem.So parents, if you want your children to advance with the rest of their classmates, do us all a favor and leave the violence at home with yourselves, don't contaminate the rest of the children.

AngryDragon:Fizics: I have been a special education teacher for years, specializing in IEP's (Individual Education Plans) and I can tell you the push is on to eliminate guns from our schools completely. I have had fathers blatantly tell me they encourage their children in all kinds of violent play at home. I do not hesitate to recommend a child receive special courses and be separated from their peers if they show signs of "gun-orientated" play and it is a dangerous precedent to allow it to continue without censure from the school. I have heard too many "It's just a Lego gun!" or "It's a drawing! It's just a drawing!" (usually laced with profanity, which doesn't earn their children points with me) to be a part of ignoring this problem.

So parents, if you want your children to advance with the rest of their classmates, do us all a favor and leave the violence at home with yourselves, don't contaminate the rest of the children.

Assuming you're not trolling, 10/10 if you are, thank you for giving us a glimpse into the mind of the enemy.

If you banned him from carrying a gun just in case, he'd either ignore the law, or refuse to do jobs in Detroit (which would further hurt the poor black people. What do you have against poor black people?)

Same. If it's not trolling I think that post helped me make a financial decision today. I was debating on re-enrolling my daughter in private school. Looks like it's worth the money. I've found less of that kind of mentality away from the public schools in my area.

Fizics:I have been a special education teacher for years, specializing in IEP's (Individual Education Plans) and I can tell you the push is on to eliminate guns from our schools completely. I have had fathers blatantly tell me they encourage their children in all kinds of violent play at home. I do not hesitate to recommend a child receive special courses and be separated from their peers if they show signs of "gun-orientated" play and it is a dangerous precedent to allow it to continue without censure from the school. I have heard too many "It's just a Lego gun!" or "It's a drawing! It's just a drawing!" (usually laced with profanity, which doesn't earn their children points with me) to be a part of ignoring this problem.

So parents, if you want your children to advance with the rest of their classmates, do us all a favor and leave the violence at home with yourselves, don't contaminate the rest of the children.

If you banned him from carrying a gun just in case, he'd either ignore the law, or refuse to do jobs in Detroit (which would further hurt the poor black people. What do you have against poor black people?)

Do you not understand that your cousin's carrying of a firearm causes other people to live in constant terror that your cousin will suddenly and without cause kill them?

If you banned him from carrying a gun just in case, he'd either ignore the law, or refuse to do jobs in Detroit (which would further hurt the poor black people. What do you have against poor black people?)

Do you not understand that your cousin's carrying of a firearm causes other people to live in constant terror that your cousin will suddenly and without cause kill them?

Why would they live in constant fear? Has he been acting violent? Is he waving the gun around or even announcing that he has it? That doesn't make any sense. If you're walking around eyeballing everyone who *might* have a gun and living in constant fear you may want to seek out some medication because that's not normal.

Oh god, I'm almost in tears just laughing. The "guns are bad mkay" people and the "zero tolerance" people have gone so far from reality that they actually came back around to step on each other's toes. That's hilarious, and wonderful PR.

Fizics:I have been a special education teacher for years, specializing in IEP's (Individual Education Plans) and I can tell you the push is on to eliminate guns from our schools completely. I have had fathers blatantly tell me they encourage their children in all kinds of violent play at home. I do not hesitate to recommend a child receive special courses and be separated from their peers if they show signs of "gun-orientated" play and it is a dangerous precedent to allow it to continue without censure from the school. I have heard too many "It's just a Lego gun!" or "It's a drawing! It's just a drawing!" (usually laced with profanity, which doesn't earn their children points with me) to be a part of ignoring this problem.

So parents, if you want your children to advance with the rest of their classmates, do us all a favor and leave the violence at home with yourselves, don't contaminate the rest of the children.

redmid17:Fizics: I have been a special education teacher for years, specializing in IEP's (Individual Education Plans) and I can tell you the push is on to eliminate guns from our schools completely. I have had fathers blatantly tell me they encourage their children in all kinds of violent play at home. I do not hesitate to recommend a child receive special courses and be separated from their peers if they show signs of "gun-orientated" play and it is a dangerous precedent to allow it to continue without censure from the school. I have heard too many "It's just a Lego gun!" or "It's a drawing! It's just a drawing!" (usually laced with profanity, which doesn't earn their children points with me) to be a part of ignoring this problem.

So parents, if you want your children to advance with the rest of their classmates, do us all a favor and leave the violence at home with yourselves, don't contaminate the rest of the children.

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THAT RIGHT THERE IS VERBOTEN, BECAUSE OF SANDY HOOK! LOCK DOWN THE SCHOOL UNTIL WE TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS OUTRAGE!

I've met a lot of people and a large number of them are farking morons that I wouldn't trust with anything more dangerous than a spork.

I'm the opposite: I've met a lot of people and the overwhelming majority of them are normal, generally careful individuals that I would be comfortable with them owning a firearm (and in fact, a very large fraction of them do).

I guess I just have a more optimistic view of people. Either that, or I'm not really scared of strangers.

dittybopper:Fizics: I have been a special education teacher for years, specializing in IEP's (Individual Education Plans) and I can tell you the push is on to eliminate guns from our schools completely. I have had fathers blatantly tell me they encourage their children in all kinds of violent play at home. I do not hesitate to recommend a child receive special courses and be separated from their peers if they show signs of "gun-orientated" play and it is a dangerous precedent to allow it to continue without censure from the school. I have heard too many "It's just a Lego gun!" or "It's a drawing! It's just a drawing!" (usually laced with profanity, which doesn't earn their children points with me) to be a part of ignoring this problem.

So parents, if you want your children to advance with the rest of their classmates, do us all a favor and leave the violence at home with yourselves, don't contaminate the rest of the children.

THis will probably make you shiat bricks:

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The littlebopper at 5 years old learning archery.

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The littlebopper with his favorite 8th birthday present.

/He's in the gifted program at school.

That last looks like a .22LR bolt action, but I don't recognize the make. I had a Ruger 10/22, but that was a semiautomatic and back end looked very different (Obviously, different mechanisms). So, what is that? You should have given him a 30-06, hehehe. Maybe a double barrel 12 gauge and 'forget'* to tell him to use one trigger at a time, not both...

somemoron:dittybopper: Fizics: I have been a special education teacher for years, specializing in IEP's (Individual Education Plans) and I can tell you the push is on to eliminate guns from our schools completely. I have had fathers blatantly tell me they encourage their children in all kinds of violent play at home. I do not hesitate to recommend a child receive special courses and be separated from their peers if they show signs of "gun-orientated" play and it is a dangerous precedent to allow it to continue without censure from the school. I have heard too many "It's just a Lego gun!" or "It's a drawing! It's just a drawing!" (usually laced with profanity, which doesn't earn their children points with me) to be a part of ignoring this problem.

So parents, if you want your children to advance with the rest of their classmates, do us all a favor and leave the violence at home with yourselves, don't contaminate the rest of the children.

THis will probably make you shiat bricks:

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The littlebopper at 5 years old learning archery.

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The littlebopper with his favorite 8th birthday present.

/He's in the gifted program at school.

That last looks like a .22LR bolt action, but I don't recognize the make. I had a Ruger 10/22, but that was a semiautomatic and back end looked very different (Obviously, different mechanisms). So, what is that? You should have given him a 30-06, hehehe. Maybe a double barrel 12 gauge and 'forget'* to tell him to use one trigger at a time, not both...

Fizics:I have been a special education teacher for years, specializing in IEP's (Individual Education Plans) and I can tell you the push is on to eliminate guns from our schools completely. I have had fathers blatantly tell me they encourage their children in all kinds of violent play at home. I do not hesitate to recommend a child receive special courses and be separated from their peers if they show signs of "gun-orientated" play and it is a dangerous precedent to allow it to continue without censure from the school. I have heard too many "It's just a Lego gun!" or "It's a drawing! It's just a drawing!" (usually laced with profanity, which doesn't earn their children points with me) to be a part of ignoring this problem.

So parents, if you want your children to advance with the rest of their classmates, do us all a favor and leave the violence at home with yourselves, don't contaminate the rest of the children.

somemoron:That last looks like a .22LR bolt action, but I don't recognize the make.

It is. It's a 1950's vintage .22 LR bolt action (forget the make and I don't feel like opening up the safe to check right now) that my father fixed up for him. Touched up the barrel and action with cold blue, cut the stock down a couple inches, and put a brass plate in the bottom of the receiver to convert it from magazine fed to single shot.

I fully expect that gun will be functioning perfectly when the littlebopper is my age, at which point that gun will be 100 years old.

dittybopper:Fizics: I have been a special education teacher for years, specializing in IEP's (Individual Education Plans) and I can tell you the push is on to eliminate guns from our schools completely. I have had fathers blatantly tell me they encourage their children in all kinds of violent play at home. I do not hesitate to recommend a child receive special courses and be separated from their peers if they show signs of "gun-orientated" play and it is a dangerous precedent to allow it to continue without censure from the school. I have heard too many "It's just a Lego gun!" or "It's a drawing! It's just a drawing!" (usually laced with profanity, which doesn't earn their children points with me) to be a part of ignoring this problem.

So parents, if you want your children to advance with the rest of their classmates, do us all a favor and leave the violence at home with yourselves, don't contaminate the rest of the children.

THis will probably make you shiat bricks:

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The littlebopper at 5 years old learning archery.

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The littlebopper with his favorite 8th birthday present.

/He's in the gifted program at school.

His best gift is parents who are good people, dude. Well done.I would post my daughter at the range and skating, but it might raise the dander of my EX./also in top 1% of her class

Fizics:I have been a special education teacher for years, specializing in IEP's (Individual Education Plans) and I can tell you the push is on to eliminate guns from our schools completely. I have had fathers blatantly tell me they encourage their children in all kinds of violent play at home. I do not hesitate to recommend a child receive special courses and be separated from their peers if they show signs of "gun-orientated" play and it is a dangerous precedent to allow it to continue without censure from the school. I have heard too many "It's just a Lego gun!" or "It's a drawing! It's just a drawing!" (usually laced with profanity, which doesn't earn their children points with me) to be a part of ignoring this problem.

So parents, if you want your children to advance with the rest of their classmates, do us all a favor and leave the violence at home with yourselves, don't contaminate the rest of the children.

sethen320:AngryDragon: Fizics: I have been a special education teacher for years, specializing in IEP's (Individual Education Plans) and I can tell you the push is on to eliminate guns from our schools completely. I have had fathers blatantly tell me they encourage their children in all kinds of violent play at home. I do not hesitate to recommend a child receive special courses and be separated from their peers if they show signs of "gun-orientated" play and it is a dangerous precedent to allow it to continue without censure from the school. I have heard too many "It's just a Lego gun!" or "It's a drawing! It's just a drawing!" (usually laced with profanity, which doesn't earn their children points with me) to be a part of ignoring this problem.

So parents, if you want your children to advance with the rest of their classmates, do us all a favor and leave the violence at home with yourselves, don't contaminate the rest of the children.

Assuming you're not trolling, 10/10 if you are, thank you for giving us a glimpse into the mind of the enemy.

dittybopper:somemoron: That last looks like a .22LR bolt action, but I don't recognize the make.

It is. It's a 1950's vintage .22 LR bolt action (forget the make and I don't feel like opening up the safe to check right now) that my father fixed up for him. Touched up the barrel and action with cold blue, cut the stock down a couple inches, and put a brass plate in the bottom of the receiver to convert it from magazine fed to single shot.

I fully expect that gun will be functioning perfectly when the littlebopper is my age, at which point that gun will be 100 years old.

I imagine it will. My dad has a 1906/7 Winchester .22 LR pump action like the one below. It's not the prettiest gun but it's in perfect working order. Only thing on it that's needed fixing was a rusted magazine spring. I think I was 8 or 9 the first time I shot it.

Dimensio:As I stated in the other discussion: the concern is not necessarily the image of the firearm, but rather the reminder, created by the image, that citizens will now be able to legally carry firearms in public. The thought of legally armed citizens terrifies a number of people. Those individuals are confronted with the reality that any person whom they observe in public may possibly be legally carrying a concealed firearm. This then creates the overwhelming concern that they will suddenly be shot, without cause, by an armed citizen who suddenly experiences a psychotic break. Every step they take outside now will be dominated by the constant, overpowering dread that at any moment a bullet will strike them.

redmid17:dittybopper: somemoron: That last looks like a .22LR bolt action, but I don't recognize the make.

It is. It's a 1950's vintage .22 LR bolt action (forget the make and I don't feel like opening up the safe to check right now) that my father fixed up for him. Touched up the barrel and action with cold blue, cut the stock down a couple inches, and put a brass plate in the bottom of the receiver to convert it from magazine fed to single shot.

I fully expect that gun will be functioning perfectly when the littlebopper is my age, at which point that gun will be 100 years old.

I imagine it will. My dad has a 1906/7 Winchester .22 LR pump action like the one below. It's not the prettiest gun but it's in perfect working order. Only thing on it that's needed fixing was a rusted magazine spring. I think I was 8 or 9 the first time I shot it.

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A slight correction. Apparently that's a model 1906 Winchester. He has a model 1890 Winchester which was made in 1906/1907. Not exactly a lot of differences between the two though

gja:His best gift is parents who are good people, dude. Well done.I would post my daughter at the range and skating, but it might raise the dander of my EX./also in top 1% of her class

He's an interesting data-point in the nature vs. nurture argument.

I was in the gifted program when I was a kid, and my father is intelligent as are my brothers. We're all genetically related.

The littlebopper, on the other hand, is adopted, having been a 'safe haven baby' that was dropped off at the local hospital, so it certainly isn't my genetic contribution, because that is zero in this case.

But the distaffbopper and I read to him every single day from the time he could hold his head up until he was reading the books to us. And we took every opportunity to make everyday activities a learning experience, and to this very day we're involved, even though he's 10. For example, I coach his Odyssey of the Mind team.

I'm just of the mind that I don't think that I should give up my responsibility for his education simply because the government provides and requires it.

Road Rash:Dimensio: As I stated in the other discussion: the concern is not necessarily the image of the firearm, but rather the reminder, created by the image, that citizens will now be able to legally carry firearms in public. The thought of legally armed citizens terrifies a number of people. Those individuals are confronted with the reality that any person whom they observe in public may possibly be legally carrying a concealed firearm. This then creates the overwhelming concern that they will suddenly be shot, without cause, by an armed citizen who suddenly experiences a psychotic break. Every step they take outside now will be dominated by the constant, overpowering dread that at any moment a bullet will strike them.

The joke is that I claimed concealed weapons permit holders to "live in constant irrational fear" immediately after attributing anxiety regarding a no-guns sign to a condition -- which I claimed to be reasonable -- that can be accurately summarized as "constant irrational fear".