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I'm not sure what the Michigan state laws are like regarding employment discrimination, but if they have fewer than 15 employees they are exempt from complying with Title VII. Source: I just asked my Civil Rights Law professor.

Alas I must admit, I am actually in Arlington. It seems to be that everyone in the metroplex just says dallas because "eh It's close enough and everyone in north America knows where dallas is."- my dad. Yay for Texas baby eaters!!

But I believe in Karma, I've seen it in action.
And just to keep folks off my back on FB when trying to make a point, I won't flat out deny God, but I don't claim atheism either. Specially seeing as how most of my kids play w/ the local church leaders' kids who are also on there.

I choose to keep a little low on that topic. But my kids are smart. One even figured that the Bible copied the stories of the Greek Gods, when we were watching some myth shows. Smart kid!

Though i disagree with your beliefs on karma, I thoroughly respect your decision not to cavort your skepticism in the south. The social ramifications of atheism and skepticism can be devastating to your children's social lives.

I don't know much about this establishment, but I would say that bringing down a locally owned shop isn't going to be such a satisfying feeling. Yay, you just made people lose their jobs how beneficial.

I lived there while I was going to WMU. I recognized the street sign. It does make me sad though. The only religious nutcases I ever had to deal with were the ones that protested PP and were right next to the bus stop.

I would prefer if all the bigots out there just put it in their ads what they are looking for, upfront. That will save me wasting my time applying for the job. Just because the job sign doesn't mention age or race or religion or sexual preference or gender doesn't mean they aren't going to hire based on those criteria.

Most people who do this dno't even realize this is not an ok thing to do. Showing them it's not ok is a good thing. A lot of bigots aren't die hard dicks for the heck of it, some just need to be educated as to why this isn't something that is acceptable.

Most people I know that would do something like this just see this type of regulation as the government interfering with their free exercise of religion. They'll mutter something about Obama being a Muslim and go on about their way.

OK. So if we have determined that he has 37 employees and this does in fact violate Title 7, shouldn't we be contacting some local government organization to report this? Just because he took down the sign does not mean he will stop discriminating when hiring.

"Had a muffler repaired here. I really dislike that they do not set appointments so you are have no guarantee of how long it will take to get in or how long they will work on it. Turned out my muffler was under warranty and they fixed it for no charge however in the process they broke my driver side mirror. To the credit of them they did repair it after going back and forth for about an hour but it was of a different style. I will be trying a different location of the chain if i need future repairs."

Been a few years since law school, but I recall companies employing less than 15 people as being exempt from the discrimination protection act. Anyone have a better handle on this? Has to be an employment lawyer around here someplace.

Not to say we should tolerate this kind of behavior even in small businesses, but from a legal standpoint I'm not sure this is really actionable.

You are one hundred percent correct. I just did a quick google search and the term employer does have a 15 employee requirement to fall under Title VII. There are often state provisions that would apply to smaller employers, and either way a public display like that is just screwed up.

I'm by no means a lawyer, but my father was (not far from where this picture was taken, coincidentally). He did a few cases concerning employment discrimination, and I'm pretty sure it has to be less than 15 people working for the company, not the branch. Muffler Man is a chain and I'm pretty sure they have to adhere to employer discrimination laws. If that 15 count only had to do with the branch rather than the company, wouldn't all small stores owned by a major chain be exempt? that wouldn't make much sense at all, which is why I'm hoping I'm right.

Yes and no... It would depend on whether that individual branch is a franchise, or owned directly by Muffler Man. If its a franchise, then it may be set up under a small corporation who is licensing the Muffler Man brand. If that's the case then he could possibly be exempt if he's got less than 15 employees at his franchise.

However, franchise agreements are pretty intense, so even if it were to turn out that he wasn't required to comply with that law, Muffler Man probably has something in their contract with him that would allow them to say he can't do things like this because it tarnishes Muffler Man's image.

Now, he MIGHT be able to get around this by claiming less than 15 employees, but the fact is he is still engaging in discriminatory hiring practices. And no the EEOC makes no distinction between factors like age, sex, and religion - discrimination is discrimination.

Does it mean that he's being forced to NOT hire a Christian? Absolutely not. He can hire who he wants. However, he does need to consider EVERY qualified applicant first.

I'm a registered libertarian, and even I can see how wrong this employer is. Your personal freedom does not extend to denying others their own self determination.

Last, it's your right as a consumer to call and complain about unfair business practices. It's the free market at it's finest. It's not like a muffler shop is a private residence.

If you STILL think that this is the kind of business you should support, ask yourself - what if the sign said "white tech" or "Muslim tech"? Would you be so quick to defend him?

The problem is that no one puts up a sign in this country that says "Muslim tech only". That's why we don't whine about it. If someone put up a sign that said "white tech only", the outrage would still be there.

Because they expect that the government is full of people who will look the other way and that pulling a stunt like this will endear them to others who view themselves as Christians, increasing sales.

Besides... laws don't matter, God does! (Except that you are to render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's which you'd think would include civil obedience wherever it isn't in direct opposition to morality. Shouldn't all REAL Christians be forced to do the speed limit? To always use turn signals? Funny how fish cars have problems with that...)

How fluky. The Chicken Coop across the street is where members of late 90's flash-in-the-pan pop rock group Verve Pipe (Photograph, the Freshmen) met. They also have good fried smelt, if that's your kind of thing.

This is like two blocks from my house, gonna walk down their and apply and hopefully get an interview and then tell them that although i'm not a Christian or a Technician i can turn them in to the Muffin Man.