Like Pokémon, One Piece Unlimited World: RED On 3DS Has No 3D Effect

Did you think Pokémon X and Y were the only major Nintendo 3DS games skimping out on the stereoscopic 3D effect? They aren’t—One Piece Unlimited World: RED has no 3D at all.

After finding out that the One Piece Unlimited World: RED demo has no stereoscopic 3D effects, we looked up the game’s description, as well as one of the trailers to confirm if the full retail game would be lacking 3D as well, and it turns out that it will.

On the bright side, Unlimited World: RED supports up to four players and looks like it’s making up for the lack of 3D with some rather impressive visuals. The game is slated for release on November 21st in Japan.

Pokemon X and Y has 3D, almost all battles are available in 3D, select dungeons are also available in 3D, When using Fly, the Fly scene is in 3d, evolution is in 3D, Egg hatching is also available in 3D, the whole elite four place and battles until the end credits are all available in 3D. Not to mention the moment you start the game, there’s already 3D effects provided you have the 3D on.

ida

Listing it like that, you seem to be trying to make it seem like XY has lots of 3D. Less than twenty percent was in 3D. Only single format battles was in 3D, and only in certain camera angles. The other battle formats have no 3D at all.

popo123

Yes, but the article is making it seem like it has no 3d effects at all when it does no matter how few they are.

Did you think Pokémon X and Y were the only major Nintendo 3DS games skimping out on the stereoscopic 3D effect? They aren’t—One Piece Unlimited World: RED has no 3D at all.

That’s funny. I could have sworn that sounds like Pokémon has less 3D and One Piece has none.

popo123

“Like Pokémon, One Piece Unlimited World: RED On 3DS Has No 3D Effect”
A quite contradicting first paragraph too. Oh and yes I read the whole article but was left a bit confused. Starting with the a title like that would lead some to believe that they have no 3D effects at all since the title says so and the content only further supports it.

Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

Pokemon has 3D everywhere except the overworld and two versions of battles

There’s three non-single battle formats. And that’s 3/4 of all battle types.

Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

You also do single player battles more than Non single

Suicunesol

And yet, despite that, the game doesn’t seem to run as well as you think it would. BUT that’s besides the point… I’m still logging 150+ hours on it.

Anyway, those are all little things. We spend the most time on the overworld, and that’s not in 3D, which is the main complaint. Or, rather, the fact that it’s so inconsistent.

xxbrothawizxx

That’s my ultimate problem with people saying that they disabled 3D “to get more out of the system”. They disabled 3D rather because it was a quick fix to get what they had already built to run at a good framerate rather than work to optimize their engines properly. Neither Pokemon or One Piece look like they’re pushing the system too hard, yet Pokemon still suffers from frame rate issues and One Piece doesn’t have 3D. If there weren’t examples of 3DS games that were more impressive than those two and ran well in 3D i could believe it, but there are.

Suicunesol

Actually I think One Piece looks good enough to be pushing the system a bit, but that’s just me. Then again, this is Ganbarian developing right? They’re not really known for pushing graphics, but still have decent visuals in their games. I wager if a better studio with more money had done the job, they might have been able to squeak out a workable stereoscopic 3D version with minimal loss of fidelity.

British_Otaku

Rather no 3D effect and a stable game than an unstable one/one that using 3D here and there but not elsewhere. This game made the right call there, but I doubt people will get nearly as flustered about this as Pokemon or Senran Kagura.

Cheers for looking up trailers to find out whether they had a disclaimer about it though.

Edit: I don’t think I’ve ever received this many downvotes I’m cracking up

Juan Andrés Valencia

On the contrary… maybe in games it’s not that popular but it’s hard to go back to playing Resistance 3, Sonic Generations, Assassins Creed Revelations, Child Of Eden, Silent Hill Downpour or Motorstorm Apocalypse on 2D. Trine 2 is getting 3D support on the PS4 and many games are getting constant updates through Nvidia 3D Vision to run in 3D. It’s a small niche but the ones that have experienced it can admit that it’s pretty cool.

Also at least in films this has been a very strong year for 3D. Gravity, Pacific Rim, Jurassic Park and Star Trek Into Darkness proved that 3D conversions can be utterly incredible and the rest of the 3D films like Metallica: Through The Never, The Great Gatsby, Oz The Great And Powerful, Jack The Giant Slayer, Despicable Me 2 and even G.I. Joe: Retaliation are definite proof that 3D can be used to state that 3D isn’t just alive and kicking, but it’s here to stay.

British_Otaku

3D is a feature zombie which comes and goes, even if it does become rare in most of the 3DS’s late library (plus movies, television shows and video games by some chance), you can expect it to return again within the decade.

The vast majority of games are still going to have 3D as a bullet point and maybe even do it well like Ace Attorney 5.

InfectedAI

Shame. I hope this doesn’t become a trend. I play my 3DS in 3D exclusively. The lack of 3D in Pokemon was very jarring and made it look very unimpressive to me. I’m not a one piece fan, but I was considering getting the game because it seemed a little interesting. However since I was on the fence the lack of 3D makes me not want to get it at all.

British_Otaku

I may be assuming too much, but I don’t think you would be a buyer just because you aren’t a One Piece fan (whatever that means, you could have watched more than me for all I know but still say that).

If you played the demo or saw the game in motion for an extended amount of time, you would be sold on the game feel, the visual effects and touches without the additional 3D which may lead to the game not running well at all.

InfectedAI

If I cared a lot about good graphics I would’ve bought a Vita. One of the selling points for me was the system’s 3D effect. I don’t really have any interest in games that don’t support it. I haven’t really watched the show, but I saw some trailers for the game that made it look pretty cool. However with my limited time and budget I’d rather buy games that fully support the systems hardware. Especially when there’s so many games being released that look great and support 3D.

British_Otaku

That’s a very rare opinion for me to come across, but duly noted. Some people appreciate the 3DS’ 3D effect to the point where they buy/ignore on the basis of whether it is there or not. >_>

I was sold on the library of 3DS titles including Megaman Legends 3 (rest its soul) and One Piece Unlimited Cruise SP (2 rare games plus extra content) before we consider whether the 3D effect is used, used 100% through the game and hopefully used well if at all.

I guess you’ll have fun with whatever else you pick up though, so whatever. :/ Namco Bandai’s pockets will probably be lined even if word has gotten out about the lack of 3D. >_>

Juan Andrés Valencia

I honestly prefer that than something like the poorly done 3D in Tales Of The Abyss, Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater 3D (This one’s a problem due to the abysmal framerate with or without 3D), SMT: Devil Summoner – Soul Hackers and VVVVV that look absolutely horrendous. I’d rather have a flawless 2D presentation than terrible tacked-on 3D.

British_Otaku

That’s a lot of games I’ve played or interested in getting… >_>
I don’t remember the 3D much in Tales (probably poor then), I think MGS:SE3D had pretty nice 3D in the demo but the frame rate shows that the game wasn’t well optimised (and gyrosensor controls plus 3D is the DUMB!), pretty interested in lots of Vs and SMT games in general.

Juan Andrés Valencia

Resident Evil: Revelations works flawlessly with 3D and Gyro. As long as you are in an office chair but it works really well and the aiming controls are extremely fluid and accurate with it.

British_Otaku

Good to hear, my problem with other games like MGS3D’s demo and Rhythm Thief is that one chose to have a control scheme (the balancing in MGS which tends to punish you) which doesn’t lend itself well to 3D and the other switches off 3D for the gyroscope parts missing on the point that most of the other missions control better because they didn’t forget about buttons, the d-pad, touch screen and tactile interfaces.

I’m probably going to play RE:R with the default control scheme but third person aiming when I get it and consider Gyro on the second run.

Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

Soul Hackers is a port.

You know Im taken aback a bit, that the game isnt using 3D and its STILL not pushing the 3DS.

Juan Andrés Valencia

I doubt that many 3DS games are going to surpass the level of visual nirvana of Resident Evil: Revelations, SMTIV or Kid Icarus: Uprising soon but yeah, this seems a bit… lazy.

Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

You give Silicon Studio a game and they’ll go to work on a making a beautiful game that doesnt use the 3D effect. (Studio who did Bravely default) Its all about the resource management and how far you can push it. Since they dont have bottlenecks so they can use all 100% of the machine

Fitzkrieg

MH3U had flawless 3D; it looked amazing and didn’t plague the framerate one iota, even when playing with other people.

InfectedAI

Soul Hackers is a port of a 16 year old Saturn game. I liked the 3D effect in it. It was subtle, but nice.

TheGameTagerZ

3D is annoying anyway. I think they can push games much more if they didn’t use it.

xxbrothawizxx

I’m curious as to why you find it annoying. My 3DS really hasn’t left max 3D since I got it. I find that it provides a more immersive experience in almost every situation (unless it isn’t well implemented) and just generally pleasing to look at. Adding to that the 3DS’s graphics look a lot more crisp in 3D dues to the fact that in 2D the pixels are grouped vertically.

TheGameTagerZ

Gives me headaches, drains my battery and its just not impressive overall. That’s just how I feel about it though.

xxbrothawizxx

Yea, I understand that 3D just isn’t enjoyable for everyone physically because of the headache issue (though there are people out there who just don’t understand the use of the slider). It really is a great effect when you don’t have those issues and can enjoy it fully. The battery life issue doesn’t really bother me much. Bought a pretty slim extended battery a while ago but even when I didn’t have it the appeal of the effect was enough for me to accept the lower battery life. It seems a little lazy to me that rather than work to squeeze more out of the system like some other developers, they’re just abandoning the 3D.

TheGameTagerZ

You squeeze out more when you remove the 3D. If anything adding the 3d feature is lazy.

Anko Is Furious (King T.G.P)

Not really sure how exactly adding a 3D feature would make them lazy lol >.<.. Sounds like they've wasted plenty of time on adding it thus making it the opposite.

Lynx

Using a system’s full potential and its primary draw is lazy?

Go play Fire Emblem, SMTIV (which was fantastic, graphically to begin with), SRW UX, PxZ or the recent Batman Arkham game. Hell, X and Y were great in 3D aside from the framerate drops (which’ll probably be gone for the 3rd game or possibly second set)

TheGameTagerZ

In my opinion any game that had a 3D feature could have been neglected and use that extra raw power for a graphics boost or to add more content to the game. I feel as though One Piece R wouldn’t look this good with the 3d enabled.

My opinion though like I said before. Apparently I’m like 2 out of the rest who feels the same.

xxbrothawizxx

I could believe that if the game looked like it was pushing the system to its limits, but this game surely isn’t (little to no lighting, models aren’t that stellar). The art style is really what makes it looks so good. 3D has nothing to do with game content. 3D does have an effect on graphical capability and disabling it would allow you to go further with the graphics, but when it comes to the work necessary for the developer, choosing not to implement 3D is undoubtably lazy unless the game is undeniably the best looking game on the system. Pokemon not supporting 3D in the over world was definitely lazy of them. The game doesn’t seem to be pushing any boundaries at all graphically (though it looks good). When games like RE: Revelations and Iron Fall exist on the system and run just fine in 3D at 30fps and 60fps respectively, it’s very hard to believe that One Piece or Pokemon could not have been able to fully implement 3D without the games taking a performance hit. I can assure you it is easier for a developer to disable 3D completely and put a couple more things on screens than to actually put in the time to optimize an engine to properly make use of the hardware to get the same performance with 3D. OP not having 3D is really them choosing not to put in the work necessary to do so and taking the easy way out. They know the fanbase will buy regardless and there are those who don’t like 3D.

Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

Nah. Look at Ironfall. People just arent pushing the system at all. 3D does eat resources, but eh.

xxbrothawizxx

This is definitely a drawback for me.. I love the 3DS’s 3D effect and I dislike playing games in 2D on the system because the better option was always there. I’ll still buy the game but it’s just incredibly unfortunate. It’s definitely a good looking game, but I really have to wonder if they couldn’t have gotten it to look similar with 3D if they’d put in more effort.

Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

Frame rate probably would have dropped.

But then again Kid Icarus Uprising is a beast. In multiplayer too.

British_Otaku

You and I know that 3D all of the time (or just in menus and a model viewer) is going to be a bullet point for One Piece Unlimited World: Fire Red just like it was for Senran Kagura Burst. :P