eh, 1000$ mark cracked like nothing and I dont think that Nvidia will be the one who will compete with pricing. but i see none of you really care about prices, so Merry X-mass - I hope that we all will get only cash under X-mass tree, because the 28-nm generation started wit lota appetite for it!

Besides, they will have to make the price competitive to stay above the HD 6990, so the extra RAM likely won't mean a higher price.

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Yeah, price. If the 7970 is going to be £450, the dual card will be prohibitively expensive. I simply cannot justify buying a card that costs £700 plus (which surely it will be?) even though I've bought a £480 cpu.

Yeah, price. If the 7970 is going to be £450, the dual card will be prohibitively expensive. I simply cannot justify buying a card that costs £700 plus (which surely it will be?) even though I've bought a £480 cpu.

Is that a Vista thing? I run BF3 at max AA at that res and it doesn't go over that.

Its an incestuous relationship between hardware manufacturer's and the software houses
manufacturer's bring equipment to the market
software houses write software that pushes the hardware to the limit
so manufacturer's revise and improve their hardware
we all upgrade to the new and latest spec hardware and so the software houses produce more demanding software to take advantage ect on on and on the cycle goes on

Am I right in saying the recent benches with 7970 were between 20-30% faster than GTX 580?
I would expect the performance to increase by at least 10% across the board with mature drivers meaning 30-40% faster on all counts than a GTX 580.
Slap 2 of these chips together without lowering core clocks and shaders etc a'la GTX 590 and this dual GPU card should be a monster and stomp the 590 by a LOT

Its an incestuous relationship between hardware manufacturer's and the software houses
manufacturer's bring equipment to the market
software houses write software that pushes the hardware to the limit
so manufacturer's revise and improve their hardware
we all upgrade to the new and latest spec hardware and so the software houses produce more demanding software to take advantage ect on on and on the cycle goes on

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I disagree, it's the opposte, it's because software isnt optimised for the hardware, so the hardware is unefficient and hence runs the software with pure brute force.

If what you said was correct, why can a sub $100 CPU and sub $150 GPU run any game today at max settings?

If what you said was correct, why can a sub $100 CPU and sub $150 GPU run any game today at max settings?

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BF:3, Metro 2033, Skyrim can all be run on max with sub $100 CPU and sub $150 GPU? I think not, there are a few more though not many so we are at a transition period whereby the game devs need to start making more games like the aforementioned to take advantage of the current hardware, though your statement is untrue, the mid range can't max the top games, least not the few I mentioned and others. There will be another Farcry/Crysis/Metro 2033 out soon enough and so it continues.

That's not entirely true, it's because the resolution standard is stuck at 1080p, once your go over you have the need for such graphics cards.

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Absolutely not, I got an 8-Core CPU running at 4.40GHz and a HD 6970 and I still cannot run games like Skyrim and Metro 2033 at MAX PQ.
Like somebody already said, the software needs to catch up to the hardware. Anybody claiming otherwise is gaming too much in their sleep.

BF:3, Metro 2033, Skyrim can all be run on max with sub $100 CPU and sub $150 GPU? I think not, there are a few more though not many so we are at a transition period whereby the game devs need to start making more games like the aforementioned to take advantage of the current hardware, though your statement is untrue, the mid range can't max the top games, least not the few I mentioned and others. There will be another Farcry/Crysis/Metro 2033 out soon enough and so it continues.

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Well yes. Bought my CPU over 2 years ago for £75. Bought my GPU for £79.99, actually bought two for CF. Runs all those games max settings no problem. Friend has same setup with larger monitor still runs maxed out.

Absolutely not, I got an 8-Core CPU running at 4.40GHz and a HD 6970 and I still cannot run games like Skyrim and Metro 2033 at MAX PQ.
Like somebody already said, the software needs to catch up to the hardware. Anybody claiming otherwise is gaming too much in their sleep.

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Should get the new SKSE performance plugin dude, will be able to max out skyrim easily