Let's clear the air. Pots was a role copier. If you question that, I'll fill you in on Luxanna Crownguard's lore. She was a prodigal mage whom was able to reverse engineer spells simply by seeing them performed a single time. In design, she borrowed her spells from other characters. Her ultimate ability, originally named Finales Funkeln, shared name and function with a copycat mage's ultimate ability in a German fighting game. Her ability Light Binding is inspired by Morgana's Dark Binding. Her Prismatic Barrier shares Sivir's Boomerang mechanics. Her Lucent Singularity shares the same mechanics as Gragas' Barrel Roll.

Pots copied my role last night. I'm a 1-shot day vig. No, I cannot shoot this day, because I shot last. Yes, I am aware that I promised a day action today. That's too bad. If you are new here, which a lot of you are, know that I am almost expected to lie as town. I can link you to games where I single-handedly won for the town by lying and deceiving the mafia. In Alexandra Quick mafia, for example, I was the town JOAT. Through an intricate web of lies that I weaved during the DPs, I drew in a mafia night kill on NP1 which I blocked with a 1-shot commuter. I then pretended to be a permanent commuter to deter mafia role blocks and night kills. On NP2 I role blocked the town vig and saved a townie's life. On NP3 I vigged the last remaining mafioso and won the game for the town. That's 2 townie deaths prevented and a mafia killed in 3 night phases due to my tactics. In Historical Events mafia I earned MVP despite dying NP1 by killing a 3rd party DP1 and then drawing in the mafia night kill when I was the Beloved Princess, costing them a night phase.

Now that my history lesson is over, here's what I have to offer. My kill failed DP1, which means my target must be bullet proof. Given the roles, I'm assuming it was 1-shot bulletproof. My target was Khaos. Ergo, Khaos is bulletproof. This makes sense with his claim too, because Morgana has a spell shield. Why did I target Khaos? Because of three reasons. First, Morgana is an evil character. His death would give us knowledge about the theme. Second, he asked Zaradi if mafia were given fake claims. In the last game I played with him, Fandom mafia, he assumed Yraelz was scum for asking the same question. Third, he asked that question a minute and 20 seconds after claiming. It just appeared to be specifically structured to look townie to me. Apparently I was wrong, but it is what it is.

Why can you believe that I am town? Ask yourself, how much sense does a 1x day vig make as mafia or third party? If I'm a serial killer, why do I have 1 shot? If I'm mafia, I'm incredibly overpowered because I can claim vanilla and then day shoot to end the game. Day vigs only make sense as town. How do you know that Lux is truly a role copier and not a day vig? Look through her lore and try to find any reason at all as to why she would be a day vig. I've given you plenty as to why she is a role copier.

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At 2/9/2014 1:28:24 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:Now onto other matters. Does anybody have any explanation as to why 3 people died last night?

More than one mafia faction?PGO?SK?1x vigs?

These, or some combination, are the only possibilities, unless mafia has a double/triple NK power.I listed these in order of likelihood in my opinion.

What makes you think that there is more than one mafia faction? Why is that the most likely option?

All the 1x roles make me think this 12 player game was designed to be quick, ergo, two mafia.However, I am thinking there has to be a combination, unless the mafias are single person teams. (too many scum players vs. too few town)

At least the noble sheep provides us warm sweaters. All your hides would provide are coward pants. - Dick Solomon

At 2/9/2014 1:28:24 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:Now onto other matters. Does anybody have any explanation as to why 3 people died last night?

More than one mafia faction?PGO?SK?1x vigs?

These, or some combination, are the only possibilities, unless mafia has a double/triple NK power.I listed these in order of likelihood in my opinion.

What makes you think that there is more than one mafia faction? Why is that the most likely option?

All the 1x roles make me think this 12 player game was designed to be quick, ergo, two mafia.However, I am thinking there has to be a combination, unless the mafias are single person teams. (too many scum players vs. too few town)

So you are now saying that you don't think there are two mafia?

"Age is not important" - Airmax 2014
"Australia... is that a place?" - Airmax 2014

At 2/9/2014 1:28:24 PM, Lucky_Luciano wrote:Now onto other matters. Does anybody have any explanation as to why 3 people died last night?

More than one mafia faction?PGO?SK?1x vigs?

These, or some combination, are the only possibilities, unless mafia has a double/triple NK power.I listed these in order of likelihood in my opinion.

What makes you think that there is more than one mafia faction? Why is that the most likely option?

All the 1x roles make me think this 12 player game was designed to be quick, ergo, two mafia.However, I am thinking there has to be a combination, unless the mafias are single person teams. (too many scum players vs. too few town)

So you are now saying that you don't think there are two mafia?

No, I think there are, but there that doesn't explain the third kill.SK or PGO could. PGO could expalain two, but not if you were mimicked as you say, and the roleblock should have either disabled PGO without dying, or still disabled him so doc didn't die.I suppose it could just be PGO and SK, though. But, with the 1x roles, it doesn't rack up a kill count.

The reason I am skeptical of vig is that there is already a day vig. I don't think the chances of a day and a separate night vig are likely.

At least the noble sheep provides us warm sweaters. All your hides would provide are coward pants. - Dick Solomon

At 2/9/2014 2:11:56 PM, yay842 wrote:Guys, I sent Valor to "watch" Lucky. no one visited him, that was my night action

Are saying Lucky was not mimicked?How did he know my role, which I assume is what he was alluding to last DP?(Although, I'll not comment on it's X-shot validity.)

thats the report i got, im just sayin, i wouldnt lie about this cuz why would I? something mustve happened

Why would you? To frame Lucky and get him lynched.Also, are you 1x watcher or not?

nope, Valor can watch odd nights and track even nights.

Why did you choose Lucky?

i didnt know who to choose. Lucky said he had a "way of confirming me". i imagined cop so I thought he might have been a target so I could watch him and see who if someone wouldve killed him. who would you have chosen in my position?

At 2/9/2014 2:11:56 PM, yay842 wrote:Guys, I sent Valor to "watch" Lucky. no one visited him, that was my night action

Are saying Lucky was not mimicked?How did he know my role, which I assume is what he was alluding to last DP?(Although, I'll not comment on it's X-shot validity.)

thats the report i got, im just sayin, i wouldnt lie about this cuz why would I? something mustve happened

Why would you? To frame Lucky and get him lynched.Also, are you 1x watcher or not?

nope, Valor can watch odd nights and track even nights.

Why did you choose Lucky?

i didnt know who to choose. Lucky said he had a "way of confirming me". i imagined cop so I thought he might have been a target so I could watch him and see who if someone wouldve killed him. who would you have chosen in my position?

At 2/9/2014 2:11:56 PM, yay842 wrote:Guys, I sent Valor to "watch" Lucky. no one visited him, that was my night action

Are saying Lucky was not mimicked?How did he know my role, which I assume is what he was alluding to last DP?(Although, I'll not comment on it's X-shot validity.)

thats the report i got, im just sayin, i wouldnt lie about this cuz why would I? something mustve happened

Why would you? To frame Lucky and get him lynched.Also, are you 1x watcher or not?

nope, Valor can watch odd nights and track even nights.

Why did you choose Lucky?

i didnt know who to choose. Lucky said he had a "way of confirming me". i imagined cop so I thought he might have been a target so I could watch him and see who if someone wouldve killed him. who would you have chosen in my position?

Probably Hat, but Lucky isn't inherently a bad target.Who do you make of three deaths last night?What do you make of Lucky's claim?What do you make of him confirming me, given he said he'd confirm you too?What do you make of you being the only one so far that has a claimed role that is not 1x or less?

At least the noble sheep provides us warm sweaters. All your hides would provide are coward pants. - Dick Solomon

Probably Hat, but Lucky isn't inherently a bad target.Who do you make of three deaths last night?What do you make of Lucky's claim?What do you make of him confirming me, given he said he'd confirm you too?What do you make of you being the only one so far that has a claimed role that is not 1x or less?

oh my, ok ill try to answer dis stuff:1. Who? i think you meant what, so well you mentioned PGO, SK, and that one other one. I think SK is the most likely option, i still think there is a Teemo here, but in all seriousness, 99% of the games ive played had a SK.2. i think Lucky made a good point, i actually ready it cuz this DP didnt reach 10 pages yet. MF is a bounty hunter, makes sense, Lux is a mimic (im gonna get on LoL just to check her lore to make sure). Morgana's spell shield would make sense for BP, but i think you have a 1-shot BP i think cuz it would make sense for that shield.3. he said he confirmed me, i dont know how he would even. i need to ask him how he would confirm me.4. i have no idea. it doesnt have one shot, but it does have the even night, day night modification b/w tracker/watcher which seems too cooler than being 1-shot but its no roleblocker/doctor/cop/danger to mafia role, I imagined a possibility of a ninja being here cuz: Ninja-immune to tracker/watcher. thats all i got. Any questions?

Probably Hat, but Lucky isn't inherently a bad target.Who do you make of three deaths last night?What do you make of Lucky's claim?What do you make of him confirming me, given he said he'd confirm you too?What do you make of you being the only one so far that has a claimed role that is not 1x or less?

oh my, ok ill try to answer dis stuff:1. Who? i think you meant what, so well you mentioned PGO, SK, and that one other one. I think SK is the most likely option, i still think there is a Teemo here, but in all seriousness, 99% of the games ive played had a SK.2. i think Lucky made a good point, i actually ready it cuz this DP didnt reach 10 pages yet. MF is a bounty hunter, makes sense, Lux is a mimic (im gonna get on LoL just to check her lore to make sure). Morgana's spell shield would make sense for BP, but i think you have a 1-shot BP i think cuz it would make sense for that shield.3. he said he confirmed me, i dont know how he would even. i need to ask him how he would confirm me.4. i have no idea. it doesnt have one shot, but it does have the even night, day night modification b/w tracker/watcher which seems too cooler than being 1-shot but its no roleblocker/doctor/cop/danger to mafia role, I imagined a possibility of a ninja being here cuz: Ninja-immune to tracker/watcher. thats all i got. Any questions?

So, you didn't see anyone last night visit Lucky, even though you say his role makes sense, as does mine. However, that doesn't explain two day-vig roles.So, what is more likely, two day-vig roles, or Lucky...or you, is lying?

At least the noble sheep provides us warm sweaters. All your hides would provide are coward pants. - Dick Solomon

Probably Hat, but Lucky isn't inherently a bad target.Who do you make of three deaths last night?What do you make of Lucky's claim?What do you make of him confirming me, given he said he'd confirm you too?What do you make of you being the only one so far that has a claimed role that is not 1x or less?

oh my, ok ill try to answer dis stuff:1. Who? i think you meant what, so well you mentioned PGO, SK, and that one other one. I think SK is the most likely option, i still think there is a Teemo here, but in all seriousness, 99% of the games ive played had a SK.2. i think Lucky made a good point, i actually ready it cuz this DP didnt reach 10 pages yet. MF is a bounty hunter, makes sense, Lux is a mimic (im gonna get on LoL just to check her lore to make sure). Morgana's spell shield would make sense for BP, but i think you have a 1-shot BP i think cuz it would make sense for that shield.3. he said he confirmed me, i dont know how he would even. i need to ask him how he would confirm me.4. i have no idea. it doesnt have one shot, but it does have the even night, day night modification b/w tracker/watcher which seems too cooler than being 1-shot but its no roleblocker/doctor/cop/danger to mafia role, I imagined a possibility of a ninja being here cuz: Ninja-immune to tracker/watcher. thats all i got. Any questions?

So, you didn't see anyone last night visit Lucky, even though you say his role makes sense, as does mine. However, that doesn't explain two day-vig roles.So, what is more likely, two day-vig roles, or Lucky...or you, is lying?

At least the noble sheep provides us warm sweaters. All your hides would provide are coward pants. - Dick Solomon

ok, there is 1 line saying that she can "reverse engineer arcane magical spells only seeing them once" it also says "she can play tricks on people making them see things that dont really exist an can hide in plain sight" and i just realized that she is Garen's brother

Probably Hat, but Lucky isn't inherently a bad target.Who do you make of three deaths last night?What do you make of Lucky's claim?What do you make of him confirming me, given he said he'd confirm you too?What do you make of you being the only one so far that has a claimed role that is not 1x or less?

oh my, ok ill try to answer dis stuff:1. Who? i think you meant what, so well you mentioned PGO, SK, and that one other one. I think SK is the most likely option, i still think there is a Teemo here, but in all seriousness, 99% of the games ive played had a SK.2. i think Lucky made a good point, i actually ready it cuz this DP didnt reach 10 pages yet. MF is a bounty hunter, makes sense, Lux is a mimic (im gonna get on LoL just to check her lore to make sure). Morgana's spell shield would make sense for BP, but i think you have a 1-shot BP i think cuz it would make sense for that shield.3. he said he confirmed me, i dont know how he would even. i need to ask him how he would confirm me.4. i have no idea. it doesnt have one shot, but it does have the even night, day night modification b/w tracker/watcher which seems too cooler than being 1-shot but its no roleblocker/doctor/cop/danger to mafia role, I imagined a possibility of a ninja being here cuz: Ninja-immune to tracker/watcher. thats all i got. Any questions?

So, you didn't see anyone last night visit Lucky, even though you say his role makes sense, as does mine. However, that doesn't explain two day-vig roles.So, what is more likely, two day-vig roles, or Lucky...or you, is lying?

im not lying, but Lucky used a lot of logic so im pretty sure he aint lying ether. i imagined this scenario:Lucky vigs Khaos, failed cuz of BPa ninja kills LuckyTyler uses doctor on Luckymy report says no one visited Luckybut that wouldnt work cuz it would have at least said Tyler visits lucky. There would have been no reason to lie after reading Lucky's post and simply fail like that, but then again, im a noob, but then again, you know me to do this kind of stuff,... so yea

At 2/9/2014 2:41:14 PM, yay842 wrote:ok, there is 1 line saying that she can "reverse engineer arcane magical spells only seeing them once" it also says "she can play tricks on people making them see things that dont really exist an can hide in plain sight" and i just realized that she is Garen's sister

so, here was my guess at the other roles, in case of further preferenceXLAV- Tristana-well, that burn damage so all i got is arsonist. or the rocket jump, so BP, but Khaos could have been BPSolon-Riven-i thought she was Ionian (she's a Noxian, im learning stuff because of this mafia game, wow. but anyway), i dont know what role would fit hereDudestop-Soraka-has silence and that ultimate-roleblocker or virgin(everyone gets healed and no one dies, but probably wouldnt make sense, neither does the roleblocker cuz Lissandra already gots it)