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#30 Wrigley Field

One of the best things someone can do to gain the respect and trust of a white person, is to attend a baseball game with them at Wrigley Field, the home of the Chicago Cubs. When most people think of the Chicago Cubs they think of tradition, ivy covered walls, Fergie Jenkins & Harry Caray. A more accurate representation would be khaki shorts, frat boys & rich white business men on their iphones. The 1980s television show Perfect Strangers best illustrates this point. In the opening credits, foreigner Balky Bartokomous is taken to Wrigley Field. This was more or less symbolic of what Balky had to do, to understand white America.

Ethnic person (third from left) gaining the trust of white people

Reasons why white people like Wrigley Field
1. Experiencing tradition at a high cost
2. Located on the North Side
3. Its Trendy
4. Comfortable Surroundings

1. Experiencing tradition at a high cost

The main reason why people flock to Wrigley Field each year is the fact that it is one of the few ballparks that is trapped in time. People come to experience baseball tradition (although the definition of tradition when it comes to baseball is sketchy, remember the sport did not integrate until 1947). However this tradition comes at a high cost, which white people don’t mind. On prime dates a ticket in the bleachers costs $45. But this does not deter rich white people from enjoying the “simpler things” in life. Wrigley is an old stadium where people still pee in troths, but white people love paying top dollar to do this. They also like being around “real baseball fans”, even though most of the people in the bleachers are drunk rich frat kids that aren’t from Chicago and have no idea who Ernie Banks is. Compare that to the left field pavilion in Dodger Stadium , where tickets are $11 and the people are much more fun and less irritating However the left field pavilion is generally the hispanic section which makes it less of a tourist attraction than the Wrigley bleachers (Unlike having black friends see post #14, it is not yet cool to have Hispanic friends)

2. Located on the North Side

Wrigley Field is located on the North Side of Chicago. The North side is basically the gentrified, trendy part of Chicago. Also many white people listen to Jim Croce (whom most think is black) and the perception of most non-Chicago people (the majority of Cubs fans) of the Windy city is through the song “Bad. bad, Leroy Brown”

Well the south side of chicago
Is the baddest part of town
And if you go down there
You better just beware
Of a man named leroy brown

This is one of the main reasons why people do not venture to watch the Chicago White Sox. They are located on the South Side which is viewed as the “baddest part of town” where of course black people named “Leroy” live.

3. Its Trendy

Liking the Cubs right now is trendy. They haven’t won a World Series since 1908, they are located on the North Side and celebrities like them. Bill Murray, John Cusak, and Hillary Clinton (although she flip flops between them and the Yankees) are all Cubs fans. One should keep up to date on things that are trendy in order to befriend more white people. ie) eating expensive Indian food, shopping Organic, or going on a wild rose detox. So for the upcoming season, try to know at least one player on the Chicago Cubs and defend Mark Prior at all costs

4. Comfortable Surroundings

Wrigley Field is known as the Friendly Confines and white people feel comfortable there because other than Ronnie Woo Woo, most Cubs fans are white (and we are not talking about the white people that go to White Sox games). Next to a Dave Matthews Band reunion concert, one can not find a bigger collection of khaki shorts and golf shirts than the Wrigley Bleachers. Also once a friend of mine was sitting in the bleachers next to a pretty girl with an LSU sweater. She was talking about Baton Rouge and said “I love it but I can’t stand all the n%#%%ers” TRUE STORY. What is most disturbing is the fact that she said this in such a nonchalant manner. Simply put, this individual from the south finally found a place in the North where she felt her views were acceptable. I sense that if she were sitting in the Left Field Pavallion at Dodger Stadium, she would not be so open about her true feelings.

So if you find it difficult to befriend white people, it doesn’t help to know a little something about the Cubs and to suggest a trip to Wrigley Field.

The majority of Cubs fans live outside Chicago because of Transplantation and WGN.

We all know loving the Cubs is trendy, I pointed this out years ago.

True enough about the frat boys, but again we knew this.

As far as the bleachers, I don’t know I’ve never sat there. But, I don’t think a Dodgers fan (I’m assuming you are given that you’re pumping up Dodger fans and the left Field Pavilion), the majority of the following of which arrives in the 3rd inning and leaves by the 7th, should throw any stones.

Wrigley is an old stadium where people still pee in troths…
I found that so bizarre that I looked it up to see if there was some alternate spelling or word form I didn’t know about. There isn’t. They pee in troughs at Wrigley.

White people also love the Cubs BECAUSE they are bad. If a white person likes a team that has been bad for so long, it means you had to have “endured” the badness of the Cubs for that same period of time. Ergo, you must be a TRUE fan.

Being a TRUE fan of something is important to white people because it implies you are superior to those who are not TRUE fans.

It has nothing to do w/ where in the north she was. It is considered acceptable to say those things in the south.
And even if you like black people calling them a n…..-girl or n….-boy is also acceptable.

When you get in to the border states (as in Virginia, Kentucky, So. Illinois, Missouri, Oklahoma) you have to watch it a little and generally refer to ‘darker’ and ‘lighter’ in your references if you don’t know who you are talking to (and don’t use the n work no matter what).

don’t forget that cubs fans are obnoxious and annoying in almost all aspects of their lives (not just at the ball park), they are often drunk before they even get to the game, and puke on the train platforms (not to mention loud and annoying on the trains). i lived off the train line that passed wrigley and that greatly contributed to my distaste for the cubs and cubs fans.

“Wrigleyville” didn’t even exist before the 1980s which is when the trendiness of being a Cubs fan started. Before, you could buy tickets on game day, ’cause all you saw was kids and old people. (Disclosure: This South Sider has been a Cubs fan since birth.) Now it’s not a neighborhood, it’s a marketing scheme.

Cubs fans: all of the arrogance, all of the ignorance, none of the success.

“the definition of tradition when it comes to baseball is sketchy, remember the sport did not integrate until 1947”

If you’re using this as some kind of indication of a racist nature in the game, I think it’s important to point out that baseball integrated before pretty much every other major institution in America, including the military.

Also, everyone knows the bleachers are full of assholes. Anyone interested in actually seeing a baseball game doesn’t sit there.

Cubs/fans/assholes:
The Cubs certainly did their part to make the integration of baseball a smooth transition…From what I’ve read, few if any opposing teams were as merciless in heckling/harassing Jackie Robinson early in his career as the Cubs. And the team didn’t get its first black players until 1953: 1) Ernie Banks and 2) a guy for him to room with on road trips named Gene Baker. Six years for a black player! Boston, naturally, held out the longest (till 1961), but still….

And yes, white people from the South still do drop the “n” word like it’s perfectly normal. I have college-educated relatives in Alabama (no jokes about contradictions in terms, please) who are living proof.

I went to a game at Dodger Stadium once and the tickets were 95 dollars for a Wednesday night and the 2 rich white couples in front of me talked the entire game. I’m pretty sure the men didn’t even know the final score of the game and the women didn’t even know their was a game. So way to use Los Angeles as the place where rich white people don’t mind over paying to see sporting events. Although many things the writer said in this article are true because some of the fans at Wrigley make me embarrassed to be a Cubs fan (not that it is needed the team does that enough) I don’t see what is wrong with getting drunk while watching a baseball game. The people in the bleachers are just having the most fun you can have while being a cubs fan.

I was a Cubs fan until I actually moved to Chicago back in 2000. Then my sister and brother-in-law took me to a Sox game. Pedro Martinez pitching for the Red Sox! White folks, brown folks, black folks, all paying attention to the game! Elotes! At Wrigley I once saw a drunken white chick yelling “When do I throw the ball back?” (um, she was sitting in foul territory). Another time, when I was sitting in the bleachers, the guy in front of me was having phone sex (and evidently had something of a foot fetish). Fact.

Okay. I grew up on the North Side and am a lifelong Cub fan who spent a lot of his childhood at Wrigley. The Khaki Crew out there is just the latest version of the Neon Hat fans from the late 80’s. Those people don’t care about the game. They know a few players, but they aren’t real fans. They are the reason ticket prices are so ridiculous. The Tribune Co. found out that people were willing to pay $45 for fan credibility, so, being the soulless corporation that they are, they began charging $45 per ticket.

Remember, there’s nothing white people like so much as credibility. Acquiring “cred” is the ultimate goal for each item on this list.

The only solution I can come up with is to expand the rooftop seating companies. Since all the buildings on Waveland and Sheffield were sold to businesses that has become THE way to watch a game at Wrigley Field. So I say expand the rooftops. Start selling microbrews and expensive sandwiches there (make sure they have melted brie). The more people buy rooftop seats, the more actual Cub fans will be able to get back into Wrigley.

Kick the Khakis out. I’d like to be able to afford a ticket again someday.

i would point out that everything in this post is also true at fenway, which is why white people like it there so much, too.

derick’s got it exactly right — when i lived in queens, i could afford to go to 30 or 40 games a year at shea and yankee stadiums. sure, they smelled like pee and were rowdy, but i mean, i could get tickets, and i could afford to go. fenway, i can’t get tickets because of all the goddamned hipsters and aging hipsters pretending to be reg’lar workin’-class folks and their quaint-ass bandbox boutique of a ‘stadium’, and when i can, they’re $80. effing white people.

“It has nothing to do w/ where in the north she was. It is considered acceptable to say those things in the south.”

um, no.

I live in the south, it’s not acceptable to me. It’s not acceptable to anyone I know. It’s not acceptable in public forums. I have not heard the word used in conversation any time in recent memory.

Just like in the north, it’s only acceptable to other white-supremecist a-holes. And as noted above, when they say stupid crap like that, everyone else is just too stunned to respond.

Here’s one– Stuff northern white people like: maintaining they obviously aren’t racist because they’re not southerners (when a huge proportion of them live places where they rarely have to interact with actual live black people anyway).

People in the north, people in the south, people in the east, and people in the west all have problems with racism. Reading this website about stuff white people like is supporting racism. The fact of the matter is that the girl saying the word n***** was unacceptable, but it happens everywhere. There are also shitty baseball fans in every stadium too, if you look across the board at any semi-successful baseball team, and even some shitty ones like the cubs, ticket prices increase dramatically every year. Being from the south side of chicago, and “white trash” I’ve grown to hate the typical north side cubs fan. There are some respectable cubs fans, like the case for any other team, but the amount of bullshit fans outweigh the real fans. Yo John_Porter, why did the majority of cubs fans move out of the city? The majority of them are wealthy, stuck-up, white people who were tired of the growing “urban” population, by that I am refering to black, mexican, chinese, etc. Which further proves the point that the majority of Cubs fans are bigots who like to overpay to go get drunk and not pay attention to a shitty game. Furthermore, not only do they overpay for their tickets to the game and their $10 beers and shitty hot dogs(gone to a couple games at wrigley for the crosstown classic, the food at wrigley is horrible and overpriced compared to the overpriced great food on the southside) but these “transplanted” cubs fans also congest traffic with their gas guzzling cars, congest the commute on the train, and basically ruin the days of any self-respecting chicagoan everytime the cubs decide to have a mediocre performance on the field. Turn Wrigley into a museum already and move the Cubs out to the suburbs with the rest of their fans!

Screw Wrigley Field. I’m a white male and a White Sox fan. I never want to go to Wrigley Field again after the first Cubs/Sox game I went to a few years ago when the only tickets available were for at Wrigley. Seriously pissing in a troff isn’t exactly favorable. Not to forget the Cubs sells shitty Old Style, and yet they feel the need to sell Budweiser just because Harry Caray loved Budweiser because he was from St. Louis. Not to forget that Harry Caray was the White Sox announcer well before he went to the north side. So the most beloved Cubs fan is from the place Cub fans hate most and was originally announcing for their most hated team in the American League.

I am a lifelong Chicagoan although I have lived almost all of my adult life in D.C. I LOVE WRIGLEY FIELD so much that I have made an annual trip there since 1974! My FIRST team is the WHITE SOX at least since the ’74 Sox with DICK ALLEN and I now also root for the NATS although my greatest memory will be of GAME 1 of the 2005 WORLD SERIES with my friend Gary or watching RIPKEN break the record at Camden Yards! I am a charter season ticket holder for the NATS and am looking forward to the 2008 season in OUR new Stadium!

Most of the above comments made by unloved White Sox fans.
Going to a baseball game at Cellular (Comiskey Park) Field is like going to a rock concert – deafening. Fergie was a druggie. Ernie is great. Who belongs more in the Hall of Fame than Ron Santo. Compare his stats to those 3B men in the hall.
Food at Wrigley is ample, some need to get their heads out of the troughs!

I grew up loving the cubs back in the 70s when the stadium was 2/3 empty and bleacher seats cost $5. My dad was a cub fan since birth and he and I have watched in shame as our favorite team’s home field has the living symbol of gentrification. A total embarrassment.

The entire “mystique” of Wrigley is a charade. Just pop $100 for choice tickets from the OFFICIAL TRIBUNE COMPANY SCALPERS oh I mean “Wrigley Field Premium Ticket Services” and go hang out in an authentic Chicago neighborhood with its million dollar condos – afterwards we can all go to Sluggers and have some $4 Old Style’s! Nothing says blue collar like baseball and an Old Style!

If i go to a baseball game now, I go watch the Sox. I don’t really care about the fans or the team, but at least the entire experience is a baseball game, not some yuppie disneyland can of bullshit.

Another classy LSU fan: I was down at the Tiger Stadium a couple years ago when their QB was JaMarcus Russell. They blew out my team and as I left the stadium I said to a maybe 22 year old woman wearing an LSU t shirt “Wow, we suck”

I, a non-whitey grew up in lakeview in the early-80s until the mid-90s. My dad actually worked at wrigley for some time and i became enamored. But then we were priced out of the neighborhood as living on the Northside became cooler and cooler and were overrun by transplants.

Now I can’t even afford to see my favorite team in the world more than once a year, if I’m lucky. I hope being a Cub fans stops being so cool and the poseurs leave, so I can finally get a seat.

I’m still making my way through all of these posts, but I had to add that white people like Lambeau Field in Green Bay, Wisconsin as well. I’m only marginally a football fan, but I feel compelled to go to see a Green Bay game next season and wear a Cheesehead. Especially if it will be Brett Favre’s last season, since white people love him too. And ideally it should be cold. Being cold will only add to the Lambeau Field experience.

Cubs fans may not all be great people but i can say that I’ve never been to a cubs game where the stadium was completely empty by the 7th inning like at US Cellular field (talk about your fair-weather fans).

White Sox fans hate cubs fans but we (cubs fans) just couldn’t care less about Sox fans. We don’t hate them, we just ignore them (and pity them after the ’06 and ’07 seasons).

This cracked me up! I’ve been there a couple of times and the description of the bleachers is not exaggerated! But I have to admit that when I went to a Cubs/Sox game and sat in the upper deck as Sox fans we were treated with respect. (with a bit of good natured razzing) I think the real Cubs fans sit up there…

Its true. I actually felt it coming before I read it. I laugh at myself when reading this blog, but if it makes me different from that girl and so many people down here, I’m fine looking like a smug pretentious idiot.

lets be serious, when talking about a team that is not yours, or fans of that team, we all have a bias towards them. pretty much any large city’s team has fans that suck, and when you go to a game you will definately run into these people.

its not the cubs or the true cubs fans’ fault that the stadium is in the middle of a highly populated neighborhood with plenty of bars around. put miller park in the middle of milwaukee and see what happens.

i could keep going on, but lets all be serious, the point of this blog is to be a joke and piss people off, and we are all falling into its trap.

I’m from the South Side of Chicago and I’m Black. When white people learn that I’m from Chicago they ask “Are you a Cubs fan” to which I always reply, “No. I’m from the South Side. The Sox are our team.”

At which point they usually avert their eyes as if they pity my ignorance and don’t wish to shed further light on it.

I moved to to the Hyde Park area (South Side) of Chicago in order to make that elusive black friend, but then I remembered no one talks to their neighbors in apartment buildings. (Later when I moved out there was another guy moving out from the floor above me at the same time–I’d never seen him before in my life.)

But I never took up w/ the Sox. Of course, being white, my sports section has always remained untouched so why would I support either team when I could go to A PLAY?!

You must have lived in Chicago for at least a little while to have such a keen insight into the current Wrigley Field. I speak for a generation born prior to 1960 that despises the current crowd at Wrigley as much as they despise themselves for being Cub fans for 40 plus years. Prior (and I don’t mean Mark) to ’69 we would go there on a daily basis in the summers, when the upper deck was closed because of lack of attendance, and “Ladies Day” on Tuesdays would draw whopping crowds of near 10,000 people. The cost in ’67 was 75 cents for bleachers and $1.25 for general admission. Smoky Links were 50 cents. Cell phones were a dream in some young, white, future Motorola engineer Cub fan’s head. And the baseball was really bad. But we loved the homey feel and Ernie and Billie and Ronnie and Fergie. C’est la vie.

Some friends and I played pool in a bar near Halsted and Diversey with a guy in a black leather fedora and a “5th Avenue Billiards Club” jacket named Leroy Brown. No joke. We beat him, then he beat us, then we got the hell out of there.

Speaking of white, Coors Stadium for the Rockies, the bleachers are $4. Which leaves enough money to buy a Coors-made microbrew like Blue Moon (invented at the stadium). Whiiiiiiiiiite!

It should also be noted that Wrigley Field is located in what white people call “Wrigleyville” which is in “Lakeview” on the northside. If you are gay or not white, you know that this area is also “Boystown”. It has the one of the highest concentration of GBLT folk in the nation. That’s right…Wrigley field is esentially a giant gay bar. Please don’t tell the drunk frat boys.

As a lifelong Louisianian of Caucasian decent, born in a one yellow light town (pop. <400) whose residents were proud of the sign on the outskirts of town warning “you know the word” to stay out of town, please allow me to pontificate on the true nature of most white southern males. I assure you that what follows is first hand observation from many a bemused and bewildered years.
Please note that I do not currently live in the south, I live in New Orleans, so I also possess detailed knowledge of LSU fans, many of them my former friends. To assist me, I have selected certain quotes from previous comments:

1:
“It has nothing to do w/ where in the north she was. It is considered acceptable to say those things in the south.”

No and yes.
At social gatherings where you are not familiar with immediate company, especially large sporting events, it is not considered acceptable behavior, except by that rare bird who was probably brought up in the most backwoods way that you should probably feel sorry for him/her rather than being angry.

However, if you are in the company of your friends, relatives, people from the south that look like you (good ol’ boys) then it is perfectly acceptable, and sometimes encouraged, to throw around the word. Usually this involves some sort of put down associated with the comment, as “they” are the problems for all that ails the world. Please note that this select group also includes women, because a true wsm does not like/feels threatened by independent minded and intelligent women. You see, wsm have a need, some would say inbred, to put down others to feel good about themselves. One other caveat, if the wsm knows a person is from above the mason-dixon line, or god forbid from the west coast (“those god-damned liberals”), he will most likely refrain from saying the word unless it is to specifically get a reaction from said “god-damned liberal”.

A favorite refrain from the wsm: “I got nuthin against black people, its the “n…..s” I can’t stand.” This is the wsm way of showing he is not a racist.

2:
“Here’s one– Stuff northern white people like: maintaining they obviously aren’t racist because they’re not southerners (when a huge proportion of them live places where they rarely have to interact with actual live black people anyway).”

Also yes and no. Certainly racists live up north, including some who don’t consider themselves racist but really are. BUT, your reasoning is off. White northerners don’t live in places with a lot of black people because they did not need black people to do their work for them, unlike the plantation economy of the south, where the slaves did it all the work while the lazy and, in many cases, outright ignernt, wsm got drunk, went huntin’ and fishin’, etc. wsm and their ilk only represented 50 PERCENT of the population. A shitload of work to be done.

The black population in the north is partially a result of black (especially the smarter black) people in the south getting the hell out of dodge, rather than put up with all the bullshit.
An observation: I go to Cleveland for business and the hotel bar was 45/45 with a few other ethnicities thrown in for good measure and everybody partying TOGETHER. THAT does not happen in the south, even today, even somewhat hard to find in my beloved NOLA, which pretty much sums up the south – two sides of the track.

3:
“Another classy LSU fan: I was down at the Tiger Stadium a couple years ago when their QB was JaMarcus Russell. They blew out my team and as I left the stadium I said to a maybe 22 year old woman wearing an LSU t shirt “Wow, we suck”
her response. “yeah, but at least you don’t have a n—– quarterback.”
wow.”

So true, and very typical of LSU fan, although once again a rare bird for throwing it out there so openly. Once again, this is not a normal occurrence in public in the south. Except for cowboy fans, Lsu fans are the biggest sore losers in the world. Dish it out but CANNOT take it. However, it is very funny to see the LSU, or really the SEC, wsm get fired up about his team. I got suite tickets for the tigers game!! Yee-fucking-ha! If these idiots cared as much about, oh I don’t know, education, economy, morals, maybe our state would not rank last in most national categories except for number of alcoholics. This is true for every wsm in every SEC state, as the numbers prove. the tax revenue from the rest of the country pretty much subsidizes the south, so thanks.

This is getting too damn long and there is so much to talk about. Let me say that religion, or THE APPEARANCE OF RELIGION, is so near and dear to the heart of every wsm. nothing like cheating on the wife and kids (a wsm specialty) and then washing away said sins at sunday church. whew i feel better already. wsm will look down upon you god-damned liberals for tolerance/understanding/love of other cultures all the while talking about how Jesus saved their lives.

WHY ARE THERE SO MANY CHURCHES IN THE SOUTH?
BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY FUCKING SINNERS!

4:
And last but not least:

“PS, I graduated from LSU and so did Mrs. IAN. Baton Rouge is the balls…as far as cities in southern Louisiana go.”

This should read:
Baton Rouge is the balls for ignorant white rednecks with money who especially typify what this entire blog is about…as far as cities in southern Louisiana go

Lucky for me Mr. Ian, I graduated from Tulane so I don’t live in a trailer or a fucking soul-less suburb!

Ladies and gentlemen, I give to you your starting lineup for the Republican Party – The white southern male.

And another thing, I god-damned guarantee you that Mr. and Mrs. Ian are Jimmy Buffet fanatics! Fucking losers.

A caveat to this post: white people who are actually from the south side of Chicago … like myself. I am a White Sox fan and have no problem driving or taking the red line to see a Sox game. And by contrast, I hate the Cubs and hate Wrigley Field. It is antiquated, in a too-trendy bit of town, and it smells like a latrine away from the seats.

Memories: I grew up in Chi on the S. Side. Rooted for both teams.
Can remember when my mom would take us to ladies’ day games. Mom got in free. We sat in bleechers in Wrigley for .75 (this was in the 50’s) after taking the L to the game. We didn’t need fireworks. We didn’t need TV screens. When a foul ball was hit high in the net behind home plate, as it came down, the crown would go “woooooo- boom.” We would spontaneously erupt into chanting “Rally, Rally! without a tape on a loudspeaker to prompt us.

I can’t remember drunkenness or obscenities. There was Hank Sauer hitting homers, and Ferris Fain, Andy Pafko,and Eddie Miksis. Banks (“let’s play two”) was wonderful at short and Baker at 2nd was a good double play combo. We had fun. The Cubs usually lost. We never thought about being authentic.

Alas, lights in Wrigley are a tragedy. It used to be the World Series was played during the day and our teachers would bring in a radio to let us listen. That can’t happen now. Toe the line and relegate the game to the nighttime; better for advertising.

In response to Sam Zell’s declaration that he would sell the naming rights to Wrigley Field, some cubs fans have set up a petition where you can pledge to boycott the products/services of any company that is compelled to buy the naming rights.

I’m not a Cubs fan, but for the record, I’ve encountered just as many obnoxious, racist morons at Comiskey as at Wrigley. And at least Cubs fans don’t run out on to the field and attack opposing coaches, or start riots because they think disco sucks.

Heavens… Posts in blogs and forums are one thing, but when you’re publishing the primary content, how about basic grammar rules and some proofreading? A *troth* is something you pledge (a la fealty, loyalty, etc.), not a receptacle for urine. How about a “trough”?

Which brings to mind something else many white people love: an appreciation of the (Americanized, not that silly Brit version) English language. 😉

White guys who don’t actually LIVE on the South Side but call themselves Sox fans are essentially saying “Look at how cool and socially enlightened I am because I have so many black friends; also because I brazenly go somewhere where I’m not wanted, don’t fit in, and am likely to be the first target of someone who is looking to mug or beat someone.”. Which is, I think, another article on this blog.

The reason white people like Wrigley and the Cubs better than US Cellular and the Sox is because it’s a place designed for and by white people. It reflects who we are and thus, has more appeal to us, plain and simple. If you like having to run for cover so you don’t get mugged after the game, go to the Cell. If you want to have a good time and make a day of the game, go to Wrigley.

Or maybe its because that’s where our fathers, and grandfathers, and great grandfathers went, and it reminds us of that history and tradition.

Also, the Cubs never dumped the World Series. When we go, we play to win.

Ps: If you want to meet drunken “fans” who know nothing about their team, the sport, and have no interest in the actual game; pick any southern california team of any major professional sport and go to a home game. Dodgers especially. People go to Dodgers games to get drunk, fight in the stands, and shoot people on the way out for no reason. I’d say the same goes for Padres and Angels fans, but we all know none of their “fans” ever actually “go” to the games (why would they???) — unless of course, it’s the playoffs and they’re still in it, then it’s time to deck out heir car with flags and stickers and prove to everyone who will look and listen how die hard they are.

1) Being able to quote or make oblique referencs to the Blues Brothers movie. Especially the address 1060 W. Addision Street.

2) Being able to use the “hey batter, batter, batter, sAHwing batter.” line from Ferris Bueller’s Day Off.

3) Being able to reference Robert Redford, one of white america’s favorite actors (as evidenced on Bravo repeatedly) via the film “The Natural” (though the average white person won’t know that it wasn’t filmed there, so knowing that bit is your trump when Redford is mentioned).

There are other cool references, but as a superior white person I shall save them for when I visit Wrigley again.

White people only like the cubs? I think you may find that any whitey from France wouldn’t have a clue what you are talking about. For those white Americans that do, I would say that the cubs have a huge fan base. Forget the Yankees and Red Sox.

Troth? White people love to spell correctly – in fact, its a hallmark of that thing they call literacy, which they hope to foster on all the poor people around the world. White people love knowing the origins of words, and can especially rattle of the Latin roots of most words in the English language.

Want to stump a white person? Bring up in conversation an English-language, non-European etymological word. “Do you know where ‘amok’ comes from?” it’ll be sure to delight them to learn a new word origin, and they may even pat you on the head for displaying Your own prowess at literacy in your “home” language.

you’re just a douche bag…..wrigley is the shit as all people white or not can attest to. Where else in the world are 40K ppl getting drunk at the same time only to watch a losing franchise attempt to win a meaningless game. If you can’t appreciate the beauty in that, you just have no appreciation for humanity(in general…not just us whitey’s) and you probably suck a cock on the weekends……

I sat in the outfield pavillion at Dodger Stadium in 2006 and watched Greg Maddux throw six and a third no-hit innnings. It was almost enough to make me forget they don’t serve beer in the outfield seats! When Giles singled to break up the no-hit bid, I guarantee two-thirds of the “fans” there had no idea what had just happened. Give me overpriced Old Style and a few yuppy jerk-offs over that any day.

I think the girl that made the comment about niggers at LSU is to be commended for not being a victim of PC bullshit. The frat boy losers that attend Cub games are annoying assholes to say the least, but I’ll take them over a stadium full of rowdy niggers any day. At least you don’t have to worry about gunfire or riots.

Also, no one likes to casually go to Sox games because their park is basically in the middle of nowhere with no bars or nightlife. Wrigley is packed in between neighborhoods with tons and tons of bars, not to mention bars right across the street. People aren’t scared of the South Side and guys named LeRoy, being able to walk to bars before and after the games adds to the fun of it.

1) John_Porter, why did the majority of cubs fans move out of the city? The majority of them are wealthy, stuck-up, white people who were tired of the growing “urban” population, by that I am refering to black, mexican, chinese, etc.

Completely false. Sure, people are racist, but let’s get serious. People moved from the city because one can buy a farm in suburbs and pay less taxes. People do it everyday. Most schools, most services, most everything is better in the suburbs for families anyhow – this goes for whites, blacks, browns, yellows, oranges, etc. I won’t throw statistics out there, but I can.

2) Which further proves the point that the majority of Cubs fans are bigots who like to overpay to go get drunk and not pay attention to a shitty game.

Funny, a lot of the fans that I see at the Cubs games are Hispanic. In fact, the last time I went to a game, more than half of my section was. The last Sox game I went to was almost nearly all white. But, it was Irish day at Com – I mean, US Cellular. Do they have an African day there? Where the pin stripes reference African colors, not green. The Sox CLEARLY are trying to get white people to come to their games.

3) Furthermore, not only do they overpay for their tickets to the game and their $10 beers and shitty hot dogs(gone to a couple games at wrigley for the crosstown classic, the food at wrigley is horrible and overpriced compared to the overpriced great food on the southside)

Beers are 6. Hot dogs are basic, all-beef franks. If one doesn’t care for either one of these, s/he is more than welcome to drink and eat at any number of the establishments outside of the park (how many can Com – dang, I mean, US Cellular boast? I suppose tailgating in the parking lot counts.). I typically get a couple beers at a local bar, walk over to the gyros place, and walk into Wrigley ready to eat. By the start of the game, I’m done eating and have a “$10 beer”.

but these “transplanted” cubs fans also congest traffic with their gas guzzling cars, congest the commute on the train, and basically ruin the days of any self-respecting chicagoan everytime the cubs decide to have a mediocre performance on the field.

I actually walk to the bus. Typically, when 40,000+ people are released into an environment at the same time, the result tends to get be little nutty. Congestion typically takes place, especially when one is in a part of town that is congested anyway. It’s KIND OF like when the Sox game gets out and the 27,000+ leave the park to jump into their cars or the Red Line. That kind of congestion is sick.

Turn Wrigley into a museum already and move the Cubs out to the suburbs with the rest of their fans!

If it weren’t for Jim Thompson and the taxpayers of Illinois, the Sox would now be the Tampa Bay Rays. Truth.

I really don’t mind paying $45 a couple times a year to watch a quality team play in a packed historical stadium in a relatively safe, hard partying neighborhood.

Back in “the good old days” you could pay $5 and watch a crappy team get spanked in a 1/2 filled stadium and then get mugged outside the park on the way out. People tend to forget that the Latin Kings and other gangs controlled the neighborhood through the 70’s and early 80’s.

So either way, you get what you pay for. As for Cubs fans, they are representative of America in general. Most are white and middle-class. Some are really wealthy, and some are working class. Some are minorities, and some are racist. Some are assholes who are just there to get hammered, and some hang on every pitch and know the career stats of everyone on the roster.

I would reluctantly have to agree with #104 and others proclaiming Fenway Park to be the better target of this satire. As a middle-aged lifelong Red Sox fan, I too remember the days of cheaper seats and availability, although Fenway has always been pretty full, and, more importantly vis-a-vis this blog, always very white. It’s just that now Fenway is full of ignorant white pink hat wannabes whereas “back in the day” it was full of knowledgeable dark blue (or red in the 70s) hat racists who accepted Jim Rice because for many years he was quiet, got the job done and was arguably the best batter on the team (this was after Yaz’ prime). As some have pointed out, Boston is an incredibly racist city that, unlike the South, refuses to admit it is racist (well, unless you go to Southie or Charlestown and listen to the way the local Irish-descended folks talk).
But on a brighter note, as the “New Yankees” at least we’ve actually won something in the last 100 years!!

as someone who was born and raised on chicago’s north side (as was my mother) and is therefore a die-hard Cubs fan, I want to point out several things:
1) wrigleville and lakeview, on the North Side, are pretty much knee-deep in white yuppie transplants. that’s true. however, go just slightly further north and see how far you get making ridiculous racist comments. to really test the waters, i would recommend the area around the Howard L stop on the red line (where I grew up). home of GD and the Latin Kings, ese.
2) i have recently moved out of chicago and I WISH there were more people who liked the cubs so i didn’t have to constantly defend myself against losers from various midwest teams that are having brief moments of success. as a Cubs fan suffering alone, I can promise: the only place where it’s trendy to like the Cubs is in chicago.
3) the reason people don’t go see the sox play is b/c they are an unreliable team that play in a lame stadium with no team soul. their shitty fanbase is divided pretty evenly b/t the scary “homies” from the south side, the uptight UChicago faculty and the white people who grew up in the city in the 50s and moved out to the North Shore two decades ago. This composition essentially results in race riots every summer the moment some UC professor has an extra glass of white zin and says something condescending. believe me, the genial drunkenness that occurs b/t the marginally alcoholic off-duty cops and their silly offspring in the wrigley stands is nothing compared to the bigotry that runs rampant at US Cell-Out.
4) advice: wait through the first 7 minutes of any cubs game then go to the parking lot outside wrigley (marquee side), you’ll get decent tickets for $15. promise. then take that extra $30, go drinking on clark for a few hours, play some darts and make sure to save an extra $3 for the wiener circle run late-night.

Uptown Avenger reminded me of another thing white people LOVE these days: New Orleans. More specifically, rebuilding New Orleans. They drive around with bumper stickers with some snarky saying about levees on the back of their hybrid hatchbacks and love to bring up how the city’s not back on its feet yet and people still need to vacation there to help New Orleans get moving again. Meanwhile, they despise each and every one of those tourists and talk about how they’d never hang out in the French Quarter, that all the real New Orleans people hang out in the Garden District or some other non-touristy place that makes them feel special…If they claim New Orleans, most likely they didn’t grow up there. They probably went to Loyola or Tulane and spent their entire college life bitching about how seedy New Orleans was, only to brush all that loathing to the side when Hurricane Katrina leveled that rathole of a city.

I am a White Sox Fan. I live on the South Side (though in Hyde Park, so maybe that doesn’t count). I am white, also. Given your criteria for what white people like, I would actually think that Sox games would present greater opportunity for feeling “authentic,” “pioneering,” etc. etc.

If it makes anyone feel better, the area around The Cell is being gentrified now. All of the project buildings on the east side of the Dan Ryan are gone and being replaced by $300k and up condos.

In about 10 years or so, the neighborhood around The Cell will be just like Wrigleyville, so I suggest you buy now so you can sell for a huge profit later.

On a side note…

I find it interesting how much this blog has brought out some pretty vile and racists comments. I think the creator of the blog is trying to use irony and self-effacing humor to show that it’s not really cool to make fun of any one because of their race. White people are the last safe race for someone to openly mock if they are not of that race. However, if a white person (not performing on ComicView) makes a joke about a non-white their career will suffer significantly.

I think racism is still so pervasive because it’s easier for the racist (of any color) to blame all their problems on “them” than to take responsibility for their own lives.

Our friend from Hyde Park makes a valid point. But young urban “hipsters” (Lenny Bruce rolls in his grave) don’t want the real Chicago experience, just the tame version they get in their bicycle infested twenty-something ghettos on the North Side. They ain’t ready to commune with cynical (as opposed to merely ironic) types from Canaryville, Bridgeport and Mount Greenwood who talk out of the sides of their mouths, drink Old Style and who when “edgy” are, well, actually edgy. As in “I’ll kick your fuckin’ ass” edgy.

A note to non Chicagoans; while most Black Chicago baseball fans are Sox fans on the other hand most Sox fans are White. Just not the type of Whites this blog lampoons.

Red Sox fans, the only ones more obnoxious and insufferable than Cubs fans.

The difference is that all those years the Cubs stank their fans never claimed the team to be important but the Red Sox fans think their team was important when it was lousy, I guess because they figure having the Yankees as your rival makes you somebody; reflected glory. This inflated sense of importance is why most Americans despise people from the Northeast.

To their credit the Cubs fans don’t make the same ridiculous claim just because their rival is the Cardinals, the most important team in the NL.

You are as small minded and hate filled as the WSM’s you despise so much. I grew up in the south and yes there are men like that but you paint with too broad of a brush which is very judgmental and white of you.

“I love it but I can’t stand all the n%#%%ers” TRUE STORY. What is most disturbing is the fact that she said this in such a nonchalant manner. Simply put, this individual from the south finally found a place in the North where she felt her views were acceptable.

Nothing could be what-you-call-white-er than pretending not to dislike niggers. Normal people give in to the natural reaction.

Don’t forget to add to the khaki shorts & backwards hats –the pucca shell necklaces! And EVERYONE blabs on their cell phone during the game. Not to mention, the most ANNOYING song in the world “Go Cubs Go” is played when they actually win. I used to live in Wrigleyville (what was I thinking) and on a typical Saturday afternoon in the hood you will see: A bunch of meatheads playing cornhole where the “hole” is a Cubs logo, random puke on the sidewalk, and a bar brawl. And this isn’t even DURING baseball season.

I am a Brewers fan who lives in Chicago and when I go to watch the Brewers at Wrigley I make sure I am the most obnoxious person there because the fans come up to Miller Park as they labeled “Wrigley Field North” and act like such disrespectful douchebags wait, they are disrespectful douchebags anywhere they go. well, thank God I am a girl so I can get away with it. I have actually seen fights break out during games.

It was painful to watch them rob us of our NL central division title last year. Good thing they got swept in the playoffs.

The boston fans that keep making this comment must have never been to a Cubs game. The Cubs’ games are much more “fun” and less serious baseball-wise. The aftergame partying in Wrigleyville BLOWS AWAY anything near Fenway, and there are tons more girls around too.

Yep. The SouthsideIrish cannot escape the negro. First it was the old neighborhoods, all turned ghetto black, now it’s the inner ring suburbs, now turning negro-gutter-ghetto. Now these Irish are 35 miles out of downtown, and some nigger kills 5 people at the Lane Bryant store in a strip mall.

These Irish are sick of the negro following them and then ruining their neighborhoods. It’s like a plague. build a wall like the jews do in israel.

My Grandfather grew up in small town MN and after WW2 moved to the North Side and became a Cubs fan. In the late 50’s like alot of WW2 vets moved to the suburbs. In his case it was the SW suburbs. He watched the games all the time on WGN and took me to my first game when I was 9. I had the best time and was a Cubs fan ever since. I might have been a Sox fan if he took me to one of thier games in Comisky. Oh wait, its “The Cell” now isnt it?

I was one of those rare people from the south side who liked the Cubs. Unlike a large portion of people who go to games of any pro sport to just hang out and socialize, I actually know baseball. Played it growing up and in HS all 4 years. Any real fan of baseball would give just about anything to be a starter of his/her pro team of choice.

Like most “bubbles”, the ticket price bubble will bust soon enough when the souless paper cant make a hight enough profit margin to keep it. I think this will happen for most major pro sports soon enough.

Most people who live near the stadiums rarely even go to any of the games. And the poster who mentioned the gangs near the stadium in the 70’s and 80’s is right.

The bleachers is no way to see a game! The real fans who dont want to pay an arm and leg for tickets, are usually in the mezzinine with thier families watching the game and having a good time without getting stupid. Generally know alot about baseball and the Cubs as well. Laughing about the morons in the bleachers and CBOE ticket holders who have WAY overpaid for tickets.

While maybe in the late 1880-1890’s there might have been a difference in pay in the people who lived near there, but now the median income between W. Sox fans and Cub fans is less than 3K dollars.

But to be honest, alot of REAL baseball fans are getting tired of the high prices, obnoxious fans, steriod use and attitude of the players, might just stop going to the games!

stuffWHITEpeopleliketodo – watching NASCAR from their trailor homes
stuffWHITEpeopleliketodo – acusing people of reverse racism
stuffWHITEpeopleliketodo – call the cops when someone beats them up after they started a fight
stuffWHITEpelopleliketodo – BE AFARAID OF ANYONE WHO IS OF COLOR (BLACK OR BROWN) …
and they should be… after all, they are WEAK! in every sense of the word …

“When we go”? The Cubs haven’t been to the World Series since 1945. Were you even alive back then? Granted, with the money injected into the game these days, there’s no more incentive to throw a series, but don’t talk as though a Chicago World Series, Cubs or Sox, is something commonplace these days. What the Black Sox did was wrong, but it wasn’t the case of millionaires trying to make another 50k. But since you apparently have first-hand experience of witnessing the Cubs win multiple NL pennants, I guess I don’t have to explain to you what 1919 baseball economics was like.

From 1995:
With the Cubs still in the wild-card race, Cubs reliever Randy Myers gave up a key ninth-inning home run to James Mouton that gave the Astros a 9-7 lead. As Mouton rounded the bases, a 27-year-old bond trader named John Murray came charging in from the right-field stands. Myers used his martial arts training to subdue Murray, who later claimed he pulled the stunt as a dare with his friends. “I was watching the game with some friends and I told them if Myers gives up another homer to a guy I’m going to run out on the field and yell at him,” Murray said. “In retrospect, it was a bad move on my part.” Um, yeah.

From 2000:
The Wrigley brawl on the night of May 16 — during the ninth inning of the Dodgers’ 6-5 victory over the Cubs — began when a fan who was evidently drunk reached over the chest-high infield wall near the bullpen, hit Chad Kreuter, a catcher, in the back of the head and then snatched his cap. Kreuter had been sitting with the pitchers with his back to the fans along the first-base wall.

From last year:
The fan who ran onto the field in the ninth inning at Wrigley Field on Monday night was probably lucky he was tackled by security guards before he got to Cubs reliever Bob Howry.

The Cubs had an 8-3 lead going into the ninth against the Colorado Rockies, but Eyre couldn’t retire the first three hitters he faced, and in came Howry. He gave up back to back RBI singles, and then served up a three-run homer to Troy Tulowitzki, which gave the Rockies a 9-8 lead.

A fan then jumped onto the field near the visitor’s on-deck circle, and ran to the mound. Howry had his back turned but when he faced the man, a security guard who was stationed near the Cubs dugout had already caught up to the fan and knocked him down to the ground.

And worth noting:
In an interview with the Chicago Sun Times, Shelly Erickson, [Eric] Dybas’s mother, told the paper of her son’s more-than-apparent drinking problem. The Times also reported that Dybas had indulged in one of the unique perks of baseball in Chicago, the ability to see a Cubs game in the daytime and a White Sox game at night. And of course like any responsible citizen, Dybas was drinking non-stop throughout the day.

Do a quick Google on Eric Dybas, the guy who went after Laz Diaz, and see that he’s a life-long Cubs fan. He just did his idiotic stuff on the South Side.

Unfortunately, drunken idiots are fans of all teams. I guess the Cubs are just a bit more fortunate that they’ve escaped with relatively little PR damage from these incidents.

1. Did anyone else notice that the first paragraph says the 1980’s television show Perfect Strangers best illustrates rich white business men talking on iphones?

2. Second the comment about the confusion over what a “troth” is. More quality writing…..

3. Typical Sox fan contradiction: People like the Cubs because it’s trendy, yet before the Sox won the World Series, you could buy an upper deck reserved ticket for half price by showing an empty Pepsi product (which would immediately be handed to the person behind you), and go sit in the 5th row. Judging by the games I went to last season, things are already heading back in that direction. Liking the Cubs may be trendy, but it’s more respectable than being a fair-weather fan.

4. The buffoons who hopped the railing and ambushed Royals coach Tom Gamboa at U.S. Comiskular were white.

6. People at Wrigley don’t know who Ernie Banks is? Aside from the fact that that couldn’t be less true, how many people at the Cell Block know who Luis Aparicio, Nellie Fox or Minnie Minoso are?

7. On multiple occasions at both stadiums, I’ve had the misfortune of sitting near groups of people chanting, “Let’s Go Yankees!” when the Yankees weren’t even playing. We band together to bash New York at Bulls games. Can’t we do it here too?

7b. On the other hand, every Sox fan who ever lived should get on their knees and slob on Babe Ruth’s decomposed knob for saving the sport after the Cash Sox (not sure I like the ironic racist connotation of Black Sox 28 years before the color barrier was broken) nearly put an end to professional baseball.

8. Typical Sox fan contradiction II: Sox fans claim that people who go to Wrigley don’t even pay attention to the game. They also make sure we know that the food at the Joan is infinitely better than the food at Wrigley. Seems to me that if I actually cared about the game, the quality of the food would be irrelevant. Incidentally, the food at Miller Park blows them both out of the water.

9. Jennifer — we booed Jeff Gordon out of the building for calling it Wrigley Stadium and we’ll do the same to you.

10. I can’t be the only person here who has wondered out loud if the headline in the Tribune and Sun-Times the day after Hawk Harrelson dies will read, “He Gone!!”

Yes, awesome. I went to Northwestern and 90% of students decided to become Cubs fans there. Every single kid from Orange County or Long Island justified it somehow as some brilliant childhood experience, i.e. “I went to visit my great-aunt in Wilmette at age four once and we watched the Cubs, and they’ve been my team ever since.”

More Sox fans go to games when the team wins not because they’re fair weather fans but because in true hard-nosed and cynical Chicago style they want something for their money. Unlike the naive Cubs fans, many of whom are just tourists anyway.

Also Sox fans are PROUD that the Sox threw the Series; that was a true Chicago thing to do and totally in keeping with real Chicago as opposed to Wrigleyville, most people there couldn’t even get a parking ticket fixed.

The Sox are the team that embody the true “fuck you buddy, here’s a sawbuck take a hike” spirit of Chicago. One can imagine the Cubs popular in Portland or Charlotte, not the Sox. Thank God.

Do you not understand that you are just as racist and ignorant as the gentleman who replied before you.

Just one thing about whites though. Why is every single country in the entire world that is not run by whites a third world country? And why do spicks and jigs want to come and live in these countries? To exploit them, not embrace them.

Why are your neighborhoods always destroyed? Is there a racial committment to crime and filth?

And about being scared, wouldnt you be scared of you saw a gorilla walking toward you? I sure the hell would.

No it’s not an English Comp website, but it’s hard to stand behind an argument that includes words that mean other things. Troth is an old English variant of truth. A trough is “a long, narrow, open receptacle, usually boxlike in shape, used chiefly to hold water or food for animals.” It can also be used to describe the multi-person urinal at Wrigley Field. In either case, it’s something your mother drinks out of.

Also funny that that’s the only point you replied to. Guess I hit the nail on the head with the rest of them.

Sox fans wear the most gutless, shameful act in baseball history as a badge of honor, yet dump on Sammy Sosa for the corked bat and the steroid allegations. That level of hypocrisy is on par with that of any idiot who enjoys watching NASCAR but hates traffic.

In the class war between Sox and Cub fans all weapons are legit and the ends justify the means. Some day we’ll set your head on a pike kabong. And if you don’t understand the Black Sox thing you don’t understand Chicago, something not unusual among Cub fans.

No I do get that. Our politicians and our cops are corrupt so our baseball teams should be too. I just think that’s a strange spin to put on it. Just because it’s representative of Chicago history doesn’t mean it’s a good thing. I was also saying it’s hypocritical to think that way, then badmouth Sosa for cork and (still unproven — though for the record, I do have my doubts) steroids when those could be viewed as examples of a “by any means necessary” attitude which — I’m going to sound like I’m advocating for steroids — would be a lot more respectable than taking money to intentionally lose the World Series. I’m sure you’re also aware of the logical swiss cheese involved with being more proud of a team that threw the World Series than a team that won it.

Well Kabong a fella can be proud of both the Series winning and Series throwing White Sox, no?

Personally I dislked Sosa for his hot-dog antics, I’m surprised he wasn’t drilled long before he finally was. Don Drysdale would’a taken his head off. I hate this show-off stuff no matter what team a fella plays for.

I liked Ricky Henderson and Kurt Gibson; they’d josh and schmooze with the fans in the outfield, they enjoyed the fans and the fans enjoyed them.

[…] The story of the Cubs and their Chicago brethren, the White Sox, is a story of have and have-not. The White Sox don’t have the tourist-trappy ballpark in a quaint neighborhood. They don’t get the fawning media attention from the Tribune (or the “Cubune”, depending on your loyalties). They don’t have movie-star fans or Steve Goodman ballads. They don’t get shout-outs from John Hughes or Elwood Blues. They had Harry Carey the broadcaster, not Harry Carey the celebrity (not a bad thing). The Cell isn’t even among the Stuff White People Like. […]

Yeah, when Harry Carey did the Sox games with Jimmy Piersoll they were both as acerbic (and funny) as Hell, then when Harry went north he became a sweet uncle figure and became an instant tradition. The new Jack Brickhouse.

I always liked Harry Carey the early western picture star, his last picture was Red River. I think his kid Harry Carey Jr. is still around, you know him, Brad in The Searchers.

There are working class whites who like the Cubs. You don’t find all that many of them at Wrigley Field though. Instead you have the drunk trash throwers and investment bankers on their cell phones, with a few actual Cubs fans down the lines in the upper deck or way in back of the lower deck where you can’t see any of the fly balls.

People who say there are no bars around Comiskey/The Cell have obviously never actually gone there, or are apparently afraid of working class whites (because there ain’t no black people in Bridgeport). The oldest bar in the entire city is walking distance from the park. Every Cub fan I know who has actually gone to games on the South Side thinks the park is better for actually watching games if you’re sitting in the lower deck (upper deck at Wrigley is much better than the Cell because it isn’t a million miles in the air). And the fans actually are watching the game instead of treating it as a singles bar.

You should have a NOTE for the south side of chicago. There it is of the highest priority for white people to HATE the Cubs and everything associated with the team. Publicly mocking a Cubs fan shows the highest dedication.

I have to agree with you. I was born and raised in the south. In Baton Rouge to be exact. No one I ever knew used the N word! It is very unacceptable. The only time that I can ever remember being spanked as a child was the time I used that word.

I now live in a place inhabited almost entirely of northerners. It is totally acceptable to them to stereotype southerners as racists. Most of then have never even been in the south. Except maybe to Atlanta on business. It is funny but I hear them say more racist things about many different races than I or any of my friends do. These enlighted white northerners are typically the white people discussed in this blog. Of course when you come from urban areas in the Northeast I guess you just have that many more groups to be racist/prejudiced against.

Yeah…when he started flipping white towels and complaining about his ouchies, Cubs fans gave up on him. It’s one thing to pay a lot of money to an injured pitcher who really wants to be there and play (i.e., Kerry Wood), it’s another to pay a lot of money to an injured pitcher who’s a crybaby and doesn’t care much about the team (i.e., Mark Prior)

As a lifelong Cubs fan, I’ve been to Dodger Stadium during a Cubs’ road series and it’s like a morgue compared to Wrigley. The only people in that picturesque but brain-dead-L.A.-fan-inhabited stadium you could hear were the ex-pat and visiting Cubs fans cheering, like baseball fans are supposed to do.

6. People at Wrigley don’t know who Ernie Banks is? Aside from the fact that that couldn’t be less true, how many people at the Cell Block know who Luis Aparicio, Nellie Fox or Minnie Minoso are?

Or Bill Veeck, who along with Harry Caray and Hawk Harrelson, MADE the pre-Reinsdorf-era White Sox for me, even as a Cubs fan. Veeck, bless his heart, put together a fun team and experience, and was friendly to all and asundry then (he would say hello to everyone as he made his way around the old Comiskey Park on game days), as well as when after he sold the team and could frequently be found propping up the bar on his peg leg at Ray’s Bleachers at Waveland and Sheffield across from Wrigley’s centerfield bleachers. When Veeck was gone, so was the heart and soul of that franchise. The Cubs have seemed to follow suit, first by putting lights in, then by letting Sam Zell elbow his way in…

Uh, what is your definition of “white.” Most would argue that Japan, South Korea, Singapore, China, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Egypt, among others, are not third world. Second world, possibly, but then so is Spain and most of Eastern Europe.

Well, I don’t go to games at Wrigley for the reasons you mentioned (the ‘hipness’ and the cost and the frat boys all suck) – but I do LOVE me some Wrigley Field. Sigh. Been a Cubs’ fan for a long time now.

so true. I grew up a “Masshole” and they all have this “holier than thou” attitude and act as if they are the Poltically Correct Capital of the Universe…yet, they push all the blacks into Brockton and Dorchester and you see none of them anywhere else in Boston…unless they have a Ph.D or M.D. or are named Manny Ramirez.

Take a look at the Red Sox…still the whitest team in the league (last team in the Majors to integrate)…completely represents the racist Boston attitude.

Red Sox suck. Big Papi, Manny, Yukolis are all on HGH and roids….and, I live in the Dominican Republic where Big Papi advertises for Dominican Viagra (“La Pela”)…no, I’m not kidding…limp-dong loser. Probably lost feeling in his dong from all the roids, just like Rafael Palmeiro (ex-Viagra spokesman and roid pumper).

some of my buddies once got busted smoking weed at Comiskey Park (or whatever they call it now)….on the JUMBOTRON!!

thankfully they had puffed all their weed and the cops could only toss them out…

so, I guess it’s true that “White People Love Marijuana”…

not sure what this has to do w/ the Cubs…but, whatever.

For those of you with no REAL experience living there….go live in the south, the rural south, amongst poor White AND Black trash…you’ll realize that it’s not “racism” but just that southerners are backwards inbred hicks on both sides….dumb whites and dumb blacks all milking the system…

the only ones who work are the tobacco-picking, house-building Mexicans….whom nobody likes b/c they are “stealing our jobs”…yeah, the jobs that poor whites and blacks are too lazy to get off their backside and go do…I liked the Mexicans better than the blacks OR whites anyday….at least the Mexicans WORK in the south.

I guess it’s easier to sit around and watch Jay-Z & 50-cent or some dumb NASCAR event and send one of your 15 inbred kids to the mailbox to get your welfare check.

Yep…the Jews own it all….and why shouldn’t they? They earned it…did somebody GIVE them all the things they own?

Yeah..the Jews own the Cubs and the ChiSox…yep, the owners are “Juden”….well so is:

the owner of the company you work for….as is the owner of the newspaper you read this morning….as is the owner of the TV station you will watch tonight…as is the owner of the bank you put your money in…as is the controller of your stock portfolio…as is 1/2 of your professors at the college you attended (if you even went)….as is the owner of the book-publisher that produced the books you read (if you know how)….

so what?

Wouldn’t YOU buy up every damn thing if you could? do you NOT want to make money? Are you a retard?

Jews own the world….and it’s b/c of simple facts…they work hard, they get their education, they don’t piss their money away on stupid sh_t, and they are LOYAL to each other….

all of this is something blacks, whites, latinos have never understood….blacks are too busy killing each other, whites are too busy killing non-whites, and latinos are too busy working their asses off in demeaning jobs for pennies.

I have more respect for Jews than just about anybody else….so, rather than complaining about how they “own everything” why don’t you go out and do some work and own something yourself? You expect the world to hand you something?>

Wow. This makes me really sad. And people say that racism does not exist in this country. I will never understand how people of one race can feel superior to those of another. I am fairly certain we are all the same on the inside. The ignorance is astounding.

Wrigley Field is proof that people are glad to pay top dollar for a taste of baseball “authenticity.” What American male hasn’t turned on the television of a midsummer evening and listened to Harry Caray slobber through an inning or two and not wanted to be there, soaking in the sights, sounds and suds ? Who wouldn’t want to trade baseball anecdotes with a drunken Northwestern undergrad who wouldn’t know Ron Santo from Ron Jeremy ? You, too, can be one of the legions of ” long-suffering” fans !

As a 91 year old cub fan from a small farming town in central IL, my grandfather represents one of the unfortunate lifers who will pass on without ever seeing the cubs win the series. He has never seen a game at Wrigley despite spending years of his life listening to innumerable cubs losses on WGN radio.

I went to northwestern, will pay ungodly sums for bleacher tickets, dislike watching baseball on TV, owned a neon cubs hat when I was 10, and often only hear the latest cubs’ score from my wife (a white sox fan). Perhaps I’m part of all that has gone wrong with the cubs and is wrong with Wrigley… and I hate myself for it.

So, I give our esteemed blogger credit that he has my white a$$ pegged as liking Wrigley and that I am a good representative of the cultural and generational stereotype that he details (though the hit rate for everything else lingers at around 35%).

That being said, my self hatred isn’t going to stop me from enjoying a beautiful summer day in the left field bleachers, sipping my overpriced Old Style, and cheering when some frat girl with a tight shirt highlighting her glorious cans barely gets her shot-put of the go-ahead home run ball Marmol just offered up back over the warning track. That frat girl is hot and more than makes up for the absence of US Cellular’s “Kiss Cam” and “Connie’s Pizza Race.” Even my Sox-loving wife admits that the Cell experience blows goats compared to Wrigley, save for those churros at the Cell that she loves so much.

As for my grandpa and the “edgy” baseball purists whose devotion to the game transcends my comprehension, keep your edginess. Being a lush ain’t bad if it means you don’t have to spend time in a ghetto-entrenched ballpark devoid of personality or wondering if Felix Pie is going to make it over the Mendoza line by the all-star break.

i went to Wrigley Field for a Cubs game two weeks ago. It is all white folks. It’s pretty annoying sitting in the bleachers and it’s all frat boys and 20-somethings getting drunk and not caring about the game. At least in Fenway (white capital of Boston), fans have the baseball knowledge AND get drunk.

Ah yes the pleasure of Wrigley… a giant beer garden similar to what Pat O’Briens is/was to New Orleans. Maybe Wrigley will disappear one day or at least the “fans” will stop showing up to encourage the most losing franchise in professional sports.

True Cubs fans who aren’t dumb white people don’t even buy their tickets- they get them from ripping off scalpers. If you don’t live in Chicago, don’t try buying $10 tickets from a scalper: you will get burned.

You are an idot Cargill. Actually, I remember reading an article about different race and crimes and the most crimes are same race crimes such as black-on-black and white-on-white. The black-on-white and white-on=black are very similar to each other and low compared to black-on-black and white-on-white crimes. Know your facts first.

I think we have a white person here who needs to feel special. Too bad that white person doesn’t know proper grammar. “Always complaining like little bitches” is a fragment, not a complete sentence, sweetie.

Hey, genius… the “second world” are Soviet-influenced spheres as a remnant of the Cold War. The deviations of first, second and third world grew out of Western v. Eastern support during the conflict; and seeing how the U.S.A. can officially lay claim to having “won” the Cold War, there no longer is a second world by the lexicon. Beyond that, Spain, Japan and South Korea ARE considered First World nations; Singapore’s own autonomy is held in question by imperial forces and China is the last remaining remnant of legitimate Second World definition (barring the current rise of Venezuela). You really should learn your history before you start slandering on behalf of it. You and the other gent both, you’re not alone in your ignorance on this one. As far as Egypt goes, nearly 90% of the population lives in object poverty… is that not Third World? The same can be said for Malaysia, Saudi Arabia and Eastern Europe. Just because a nation has a lot of money, revenue and resources (despite Eastern European nations having none of the aforementioned); does not mean it translates into wealth for the populace. Welcome to the world; it’s wrought with corruption.

Others can say what they want; fans will be fans of whoever they are fans of, but this much I know for certain: there are no fans who have more right to claim their die-hard sentiments than fans of Chicago sports teams. What we’ve endured in our lifetimes would be damn near death-provoking if it weren’t for two glory spots, which frankly, shine so brightly that they set alight the sea of darkness that our time as fanatics has left us stray and barely afloat in: The 1985 Bears (and yes, we will hold on to this one and our beloved Ditka from now until the end of time because they were THAT great) and those esteemed-royal sportmen themselves–Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen, the glory of Phil Jackson’s mind and the six-time champion Chicago Bulls, including the 72-Win season. The only thing that could outshine these two teams (85 Bears and the Jordan-Pippen Bulls) would be a Cubs’ World Series. And we patiently wait for the day… all others are just jealous that we love our team so much. We rarely boo them (Yankees and Red Sox), we never throw shit at them (Phillies), we do not leave the games early (Dodgers) and we actually show up (Marlins). The only ones who can claim as we do would be Kansas City fans, because I can’t remember the last time the Chiefs or the Royals did a damn thing.

Others can say what they want; fans will be fans of whoever they are fans of, but this much I know for certain: there are no fans who have more right to claim their die-hard sentiments than fans of Chicago sports teams. What we’ve endured in our lifetimes would be damn near death-provoking if it weren’t for two glory spots, which frankly, shine so brightly that they set alight the sea of darkness that our time as fanatics has left us stray and barely afloat in: The 1985 Bears (and yes, we will hold on to this one and our beloved Ditka from now until the end of time because they were THAT great) and those esteemed-royal sportmen themselves–Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen, the glory of Phil Jackson’s mind and the six-time champion Chicago Bulls, including the 72-Win season. The only thing that could outshine these two teams (85 Bears and the Jordan-Pippen Bulls) would be a Cubs’ World Series. And we patiently wait for the day… all others are just jealous that we love our team so much. We rarely boo them (Yankees and Red Sox), we never throw shit at them (Phillies), we do not leave the games early (Dodgers) and we actually show up (Marlins). The only ones who can claim as we do would be Kansas City fans, because I can’t remember the last time the Chiefs or the Royals did a damn thing.

First of all, there is no such thing as “reverse racism”. Racism is racism, no matter which “race” it is directed towards. I’m so tired of hearing this term used!! I think that everyone is a little racist deep down, no matter how “cultured” they are. It is instilled in our minds from too many years of bad TV, movies, video games, and worn-out stereotypes that get passed on through the generations. I’m not blaming, accusing, or judging anyone else for being a victim to this, because I am just as guilty as the next person. But, no, I don’t consider myself to be “racist”.

On another note…

…not all white people love Wrigley Field and the Chicago Cubs–being a Cubs fan is a sin where I come from!

Actually, we were stunned into laughter. “Did she just say that?” was the reaction–and then we went back to our Old Styles and enjoyed the game. There are plenty of other things said and heard throughout the bleachers that trump that.

[…] grown progressively ridiculous over the past few decades. I site one of my recent favorite blogs, “The Stuff White People Like,” as one of the most accurate portrayals of Cubs fans and their Cathedral: Wrigley Field. While I […]

white is right
the cubs are not just for whites look at there players banks
Lee;fukudome,carlos zambrano aramis, soto,the manager two years ago dusty baker just because his name is not tyronaga does not mean he is not black his parents gave him a real name. dawson, shawn dunston all of there power hitters were of another race the cubs are americas team red white and blue. get over the race shit already go get a job find your kids take them to a cubs game pay for it with the money you get from your job pay your taxes get a wife yes she can be white buy a house keep the sofa off the front porch and put it in the front room its not that hard black people can get jobs easier than whites now if you dont get the job because of a white person its not cause your black its because he fits what they need more
try that life for one year if it does not work ill give you a job
but first start small you cant climb a ladder with out grabing it first ok give it a shot whats the worst that could happen, youll go see a cubs game.

I dont know much about Wrigley Field but the same could be said for Yankee Stadium outside of the upper deck(and possibly the bleachers) and from what Ive heard about Fenway Park post 2004. Just a bunch of Yuppie ballbags treating the place like a happy hour bar and pricing out real fans.

Anyway I know its been said before, but maybe a better name for this blog could be “Stuff Yuppies Like” I grew up lower middle class and work a blue collar job and I really dont relate to anything on here. I am embarassed to say I do belong to a coed soccer team, and I also like to travel and eat healthy maybe thats about it. I don’t know since its so “wrong” to stereotype minorities shouldn’t we also shy from lumping all whites together? Ah F–k it, I’m just an under-educated white guy so busy enjoying privilege, what do I know?
Funny stuff though keep em coming.

You have no clue what you are talking about. New Orleans is one of the only big cities left that most people living and working there were also born and grew up there. And amen for KAtrina. Helped get rid of a ton of trash…”they” are probably swarming around Chicago now. You yankees can have them.

I lived in Baton Rouge for about 2 years and absolutely loved it especially after growing up in Chicago. It’s a clean and beautiful town and this is mainly because they keep “them” on the otherside of town. The woman in Baton Rouge and southern LA are the most beautiful woman I have ever seen!

One more image of whatever color sports celebrity seen pointing to the sky and commiserating with some all-powerful deity after a big hit/play/win/etc. as though endowed with some special one on one relationship and I’m going to puke my f*cking guts out.

The fact that white people were not offended by LSU girl’s racism is a clear violation of rule #101 – white people love being offended. Since white people cannot simultaneously like Wrigley Field and miss the opportunity to be offended by racist remarks without the space-time continuum imploding in on itself, this post was clearly written by a White Sox fan who has found thrice-a-day masturbation insufficient consolation for the fact that no one cares about the 2005 World Series.

The fact that white people were not offended by LSU girl’s racism is a clear violation of rule #101 – white people love being offended. Since white people cannot simultaneously like Wrigley Field and miss the opportunity to be offended by racist remarks without the space-time continuum imploding in on itself, this post was clearly written by a White Sox fan who has found thrice-a-day masturbation insufficient consolation for the fact that no one cares about the 2005 World Series.

I am a lifelong, die hard Cub Fan who can’t stand going to Wrigley Field. While I loved the park when I was kid, the experience has been ruined by the yuppie a**holes who, thanks to the Tribune company, are the only ones who can afford the jacked-up ticket prices. The last game I went to, I was surrounded by a bunch of drunken idiots who cared nothing about the game spent a lot of money to basically sit there, spend huge amounts of money on crappy beer and yelling at the even drunker white chick in the next section over to pull up her top which she gladly obliged to do sans bra and all.

[…] Day, I got my dad (and myself) a pair of tickets to see the Cubs take on the Cincinnati Reds at Wrigley Field. Wrigley truly is a vintage ballpark, capturing the era of baseball bygone. Coming from Cincinnati […]

Haha – I have also lived in Chicago (born and raised in NYC) and its so true concerning the South Side. White people wont venture there like they rarely venture outside of the borough on Manhattan in NY. It’s sad, really. So much real culture going unnoticed.

In ’79 I went to a Sox-A’s game when the A’s sucked and routinely lost 100 games. There were two guys in center field-me and this drunk lout I kept as far away from as possible who kept yelling at Chet Lemon,
“YOU GOT MONKEY KIDS, LEMON M O N K E Y K I D S !!!!!”

I couldn’t have appreciated this more. I’m from Houston and I’m an Astros fan, a team that’s clinched the National League Central pennant many many more times than the Cubs and has been a much better team for years, but everyone LOVES the CUBS! “Yeah dude, I’m such a Cubs fan” Oh fuck off already! I even met people in Houston like that!

I can completely understand it if you’re from Chicago, but if you’re not then you’re just a douchebag! Even though the last time the Astros were in the World Series they lost to the White Socks, I was actually pretty happy for them since they never seem to get any love from most people in Chicago.

[…] that white people happen to like. Entries include religions their parents don’t belong to, Wrigley Field, Public Radio, threatening to move to Canada, New Balance shoes, and a host of other things that […]

Nobody who lives there ever says “the eastside” and I lived there for 34 years. Maybe you’re talking about some suburb or something. A lot of people who are from Winnetka or Calumet or Oak Park love to say they’re from Chicago when they actually live in the suburbs or small town… so annoying.

Thank you to the other 2 responses – there is no East side of Chicago you poser! That is where the lake is…also Wrigley Field is not “trendy” by any stretch of the imagination; it is a bunch of dumb white drunks…

glad to hear that racist remarks are only “acceptable” in the south and that no northerner would ever harbor racist sentiments. as a southerner, i have to say that most of us don’t find such remarks acceptable and i imagine that there might be one or two racists living above the mason-dixon line.

p.s. the cubs suck. i hope they go another century without a world series.

As a lifelong Cubs fan, I HATE going to Wrigley Field and have hated it for the last 15 years or so for exactly the reasons you (and others here) listed, except you are actually smart enough to realize that the dumbasses at Wrigley who are ruining it for everyone are not fans.

Okay, that’s technically incorrect. I’m sure Jimmy is a nice man (he claims to be a Cubs fan…got hooked because of his good buddy Steve Goodman) but his music sucks, his restaurants suck and his fans REALLY suck.

His tequila doesn’t suck, but it’s certainly nothing special.

I have not tried his new beer line for reasons that should be obvious by now.

The funniest thing about this blog and some of the people who respond to entries is that most of the people don’t even realize they are being lampooned.

The author writes about how self-centered, arrogant, vacuous “white people” like this or that, and people can’t wait to write how much they LOVE the thing being “praised”, pretty much pegging themselves as part of the group being parodied.

Well, that’s the catchy part of this whole “stuff white people like” idea, isn’t it? People who think it’s funny and send the links to their friends are exactly the people being made fun of. It turns out that the thing rich white people like the most is being reminded of how privileged they are and the luxuries that come with it.

Dude, stop drinking cubs haterade.
The issue of ethnicity in wrigley is a class and monetary issue. Not a racial issue. The cubs don’t set the ticket prices, supply and demand do retard.
Do yourself a favor and go to college you moron.

Of course, in your beloved left field pavilion at Dodger Stadium, you have troughs in the bathrooms, and while the tickets may be $11, so are the beers, so I’d argue that you are paying for “tradition” there, too.

Naturally, being lectured by Los Angelinos about racial tensions is a bit farcical to say the least (where were the last major race riots in this country, again?), and it’s not as if the Dodgers are a particularly good baseball team right now.

I just discovered this blog day before yesterday and found the rationality of it amazing. I was perfectly pleased to find a statement about my home town, Baton Rouge, in a post. The description of Wrigley field sounds alarmingly like an explanation of a day at Tiger Stadium (minus the overblown ticket prices and the sale of alcohol in the stadium). Any given Saturday in Tiger stadium is like a trip to douche island during a really rowdy kegger. I go for the Tigers, love LSU football…but I loathe and detest the LSU people. The chick at Wrigley’s who made the racist comment completely represents some of the racial epithets spewn around the university on a daily basis. Examples:

*During a trip to a home game last year, I was riding with my black friend in her nice expensive SUV. We are quietly stuck in traffic on campus when a drunk LSU a$$hole walks by her window and calls her a monkey.

*Friend wrote an article for LSU’s newspaper about the use of LSU colors on confederate flags and interviewed one of the starters for the football team. Said ex recieved letters from white LSU fans, students, and alumni calling him a n%#%%er lover and other fabulous insults once the article was published.

It is so refreshing to know that the legacy of LSU can travel to the opposite end of the country! I never have to question why the rest of the country looks down on the south as the retarded kid in the family who gets locked in the basement when company comes over.

The point is that I dont think the LSU girl in this post was more vocal because she was in Wrigley’s, she just said it because there were no black people around. She would have done that anywhere.

I go to LSU, and thanks to the inciteful first post, I found out i’m a racist. Hooray! Because this person had one bad experience at LSU and because of one sentence in this article My friends and I can now refer to themselves as bigots.

Thank you, young commentor, I will begin lynching immediately, because as your friendly retarded brother I should be expected to do so.

From this point forward I shall never again talk to any black people unless I am referring to them as monkey (insert any other dorogatory nomenclature directed at non-white Americans if you wish)

Oh peaches! I’ll have to stop cheering for our mostly black football team who play at…. Tiger Stadium. I’ll also have to disrespect my black peers who attend the same school as me and are afforded equal oppurtunities, dang nabit.

I hope I have fallen perfectly into your perception of LSU. So as you won’t feel bad for being judgemental and prejudice of my peers and family…. Wait…. Isn’t that exactly what your accusing LSU AND THE ENTIRE SOUTH OF!?
Oh, well I guess white people also like Irony.

second, studies have proven a white person with a record will be hired before a black person with no record.

As the the racism of blacks, maybe their entitled to it for the unequal opportunities that are still present in the U.S. if you don’t think so, look at our education system. pick up any book by Jonathan Kozol and see how its unequal from the day preschool becomes an opportunity for children.

Then read Bad Boys: the making of black masculinity which is about an intergrated school where black children still don’t receive the same treatment or resources as their white peers.

The system is as corrupt as it was 40 years ago, now its all policy decisions over politics and socially acceptable standards.

#3 is 100% accurate. Now that the Red Sox finally won the Series, everyone will switch their hats from “B’s” to “C’s”. Any team who can’t win is clearly in need of national (i.e. White) support.

A brilliant own would need only create a failing team that would lose for the next 80 years, label their hat’s with a “D” and after a while they would make a killing on merchandise. Of course, that is, until they eventually won the series…

I’m White and from Chicago, I attended college in the south and found White people from LA-MS-AL are so freakin ignorant. They way they talk…so uncouth. If you weren’t intimidated by blacks then you wouldn’t worry about “kepping them in their place”.
LSU is filled with loud mouth racists…except when it comes to cheering for the blacks that win football National Championships, LOSERS!

It will be another 100 years before “your Cubs” win the World Series… the Dodgers, Phillies and the Mets are waaaaaay better ball clubs than the Cubs… the Cubs have had the weakest schedule in all of Major League baseball this year and rarely play a team over .500.

I’d say that a tangential post to this is the enjoyment Cubs fans and White Sox fans get out of arguing with one another and claiming whose team is the best. Turns out that both teams have some serious patterns of sucking, but God forbid the north and south sides bond over it. More fun to make fun of the other.

Sorry to say but the cubs are the central champs and have played some tough teams. They have the second best record in baseball and have been in the lead or tied for it since May 11th. I’d have to say that the cubs can’t be a bad team and win over the brewers or cardinals.

[…] the Cubs–the hate part has a lot to do with the complaining, and the ‘curse’, and the culture of Wrigley Field; it may or may not be a result of officially Getting My Hopes Up in the bottom of a certain second […]

I wish I could punch the author in the face. How dare you attempt to trash the legacy of Wrigley Field. Your talking about sacred ground. Jesus Christ himself is going to come back and give his “end all” speech at Wrigley. This author is a bastard.

Thank you…that was awesome!!! The sad part is, most Cubs fans are so oblivious to everything they will think this is all made up.
White people love Obama and the Cubs but Obama loves the White Sox….I wonder what will happen now that everyone blindly follows Obama.

You should see how incredibly drunk & obnoxious Red Sox fans are! They make Cubs fans look civilized by comparison!
(I spent the first 27 years of my life in Chicago, and have lived in Boston for the last 13 years, so know whereof I speak)

It annoys you that people from a suburb 10 minutes outside the city say they live in Chicago?? Really, of all things, this is the thing that annoys you? Stop being a snob of your zip code, that’s annoying.

I am a Cubs fan, but I am from Chicago and I really agree with most of this stuff, except I still think Sox fans are the bigger assholes. If you want to see racists, go to Bridgeport (i.e. home of U.S. Cellular Field, where the Sox play)

“Unlike having black friends see post #14, it is not yet cool to have Hispanic friends”

Well, “cool” isn’t quite the word. More like not yet SAFE. No iphone-brandishing, golf-shirt-wearing, rich, white guy with an ounce of survival instinct would approach a herd of hispanics under any circumstances, let alone a sporting event. One wrong comment about firing your housekeeper and next thing you know, you’re getting stabbed.

Wrigley Field is not a baseball experience. It’s a communal drunk tank. People hit the bars before, drink during the game and then head to the bars afterwards. Those of us who go to the South Side do so because we like baseball.

And all that talk about “the baddest part of town?” It’s just a myth we propagate to keep the drunks away from our team.

Really,to keep the drunks away.How about a couple of years ago when the teams played together.I never saw so many drunk idiotic sox fans screaming,cursing,mostly white by the way and trying to look and act black,even though they came from schaumburg or crystal lake.I think all of these posts are funny but the one about wrigley field is offensive and way off target.I have never seen a cub fan run into the middle of the field to attack the pitcher like that white trash drunk from the suburbs you call a baseball fan.The only thing the sox know about baseball is how to win and then arrogantly rub it in others faces,and then rightfully lose the next two seasons in terriably bad taste,rightfully so. Oh by the way Chris most white people do know Jim Croce is white except for you until your momma told you.

Hey Kendra, get a clue. First of all, the two fans you mention in your post attacked a base coach, not a pitcher. Perhaps the only reason they even did it was because they were drunk from being at the Cubs game earlier in the day. Just because you were offended by this post, doesn’t mean it’s off target. Oh yeah, your comment about Sox fans “rightfully lose the next two seasons”…again, get a clue. I’m assuming you are referring to 2006 and 2007…the two seasons following the World Series. They actually won 90 games in 2006. How many did the Cubs win? I’ll tell you, 66. 2007 has been the Sox only losing season since 1999. The Cubs have had five in that time. If you are going to take shots, do your homework. I’m sure there are plenty of intelligent Cubs fans out there. Judging by your post, you are not one of them. Thank you.

An old saying, brought to you by one solidly middle-class white guy who saw his first baseball game at Wrigley Field BEFORE it had lights, but grew-up a White Sox fan:
Better a sister in a whorehouse than a brother in Wrigley.

1995. A man named John Murray (no relation to Bill) ran on the field and went after Cubs pitcher Randy Myers and Myers rolled him. This same guy NOW has been shilling the “It’s Gonna Happen” garbage. A real Cub fan would NEVER buy this crap from someone that ran on the field & his now lining his pockets. Do a little research unlike the rest of the blind so-called Cub fans. Oh yeah, I’m a Black Southside Cub fan and I don’t give a damn what anyone thinks….and I love Ozzie Guillen & the crew too!

no jack…you get a clue.I was referring to 2003,when the incident with the umpire occured.But you are referring to the incident that happened two days after that with two fans (who I never mentioned) but thanks for mentioning it yourself.I guess you just reiterated my point.

You people are dumb. This website is meant to be a joke. Get over yourselves and your unwarrantedly high ego. Chicago’s nice. They have two baseball teams. Get over it. And the fact that you’re arguing over which attack you’re all referring to proves that it’s happened at least a few times in the last 15 years. Big deal. Nobody cares. Don’t you have some yardwork to do or a book to read or a job to go to?

Go to cabrini and tell me about how white people are racist for not going to the south side. any city with projects where cops have actually thought of driving armoured vehicle to patrol is a really crappy city and worthy of being avoided.

You and maybe 10k of your friends. The year they won the WS, they couldn’t even sell out games vs the Indians in late September. The Indians were right up their butts. So many knowledgeable Sox fans my ass. I love it how they assume everyone at the game is some frat boy/girl. They buy the cheapest seats, get sunburn in the bleachers, big deal. Unlike Sox fans who run on the field and attack people, or fight outside the stadium. They’re the epitome of class alright.

Wrigley field on game day looks like a snow storm in the summer it’s so white.
At Sox games you’ll see a more diverse crowd- and true sports fans too.
Cubs games are like giant drunken frat parties. 90% of the jag offs who go to them don’t care about the game, they are just there to make the scene.

Thank You Jamie! There are major cubbies (fans and players) that are apart of the quilt that is Wrigley. Bernie Mac was a regular fan. Billy Williams was a great player for the cubs, as well as a regular fan.

ive been to many cub games.i even took a colored friend with me. my wife and i even encorage our chidren to make an effort to be friends with negros. we are even considering allowing a nice colored couple to come to church with us in a couple of weeks. so i am affended by all this talk about wrigley for white people only.baseball is color blind and so am i.

“we’re considering letting a nice negro couple come to church with us”…as so to imply they need your permission to attend that church? And when you say “considering” does that mean you are making a pro/cons list (another thing white people like) to further evaluate the situations. I bet the pros and cons list looks something like this:

Pros- they’re nice
Cons- they are black and our other white friends that don’t pretend to be as racially tolerant may not approve.

Invite them to church though…I can’t think of anything that preaches acceptance of other cultures better than the church.

Ps. you can’t very well be colour blind when you refer to a couple you know as coloured.

This book and most of these comments describe a particular kind of person…a person who might be white, black, Asian, Latino, or the color purple. The binding tie has nothing to do with race and everything to do with being a 20-something year old spoiled rich kid. For most of us, none of these things hold the least bit of truth and they are no different from saying that all black people like fried chicken, live in the ghetto, listen to rap music, and show up late for work.

I, for one, am a 22-year old white girl; I hate sushi, don’t listen to Indie rock, and I own a television…and pay for cable too! The statement that white people like Manhattan, and now Brooklyn too, is not false, but fails to account for the several white people perfectly content living in other boroughs. I very much enjoy my neighborhood in Queens and have no intention of moving any time soon! Like many other white people, I cannot afford to shop at organic food stores and farmer’s markets. I don’t drink coffee, and if I did, I would probably just buy starbuck’s like everyone else…definitely corporate and not a friendly company, but somehow overflowing with white people. I don’t go to film festivals, did not vote for Obama, don’t hate my parents (I actually have a lot of respect for them), rarely do yoga, have read David Sedaris without falling in love with him, usually don’t listen to public radio, have never been to an ugly sweater party (…yes, I still have a very vibrant social life), think most lawyers are scumbags, hate standing still at concerts…I could go on for hours about how this list does not apply to me or any of the other white people I know. They did get one thing right; I have an exceptionally diverse group of friends from all over the world, but this is not because I think it’s cool. It’s because I am privileged to live in Queens, in one of the most diverse neighborhoods in the world, and I have come to take it for granted that most people had moved beyond these stupid stereotypes and saw each other as people and not colors…guess I was wrong.

you are taking this site far, far too seriously. some of us fit these labels, and for us it’s fun to laugh at and poke fun of ourselves. that’s what it’s for, so if it doesn’t ring true for you then i would just move on and forget. it’s not worth getting annoyed over.

Ya it sounds like you’re 22 cause you are completely missing the humor here in these blogs. Maybe it isn t for you. I’m white and I do 50% of this stuff . And the stuff I don t do makes me laugh even harder . stop being so defensive and do-gooderish and figure a way to laugh at things that are meant to be funny.

I like Wrigley Field and the Cubs. Its not a white thing or a race thing, its just a baseball thing. Wrigley Field has so much history and its a great place to watch a game. Sure there are a lot of people jumping on the Cubs band wagon because they are competitive now but win or lose, the Cubs are fun to watch at Wrigley. By the way, I can name not just a player but the entire 25 man active roster.

yea dont get so bent out of shape, the whole point of this site is that there are two guys who write for the blog, (I fucking hate this word) a white guy and a Filipino Canadian (they are both Canadian haha). So according to wikipedia, the Filipino Canadian friend would make fun of the white friend for watching the wire, so Im assuming that an inside joke occured about white people stereotypes, thus producing this site. As someone said, about 20% is actually true about most white people e.g hummus,( so true), and the rest is just really satire (its all really satire). However, sometimes they seem to run out of good ideas, and some times fall short. New Balances?? come on what the fuck. Most importantly, they are making fun of themselves so dont take it personal, its pretty funny most of the time. on a side note, they are definitely shitting all over the new exhipster/fake boho person living in various gentrified urban neighborhoods, (whatever you want to call them), which I most certainly endorse. fuck those clowns

In case nobody informed you yet, Mark Prior was traded away over 2 years ago. Cubs fans don’t defend him anymore, if they ever did. I know I didn’t. So I wouldn’t want anyone bringing up Prior with the hopes of “befriending white people” because he is now with the Padres.

I think this website is so fucking funny. I’m white and this is all true. I think its really funny when ” us ” white people get called out on this, and we automatically get offended ( which is another white people stereotype). My personal favorites are, Mos Def, Wearing Outdoor Clothing, Disc Golfing, Hating Parents, Grammar HAHA, oh god theres so many more.

What’s left of Cabrini Green is actually on the NORTH side, surrounded by shiny new townhomes full of white people. The projects by Comiskey (which is what real fans call US Cellular Field) have been demolished, and the area surrounding it is in the process of gentrification (if held back only temporarily by the recession). As such, there will come a day when it will be considered a great place to catch a game by a lot of white people.

On the other hand, “the Cell” (the name preferred by the media) already offers the white person described on this site with everything he or she (mostly he, at Comiskey) needs. In addition to the area’s early stages of gentrification (the stage most preferred by the white person) the stadium is already the “alternative” to Wrigley, the anti-Wrigley. It is more “ethnically and class diverse.” It offers a more “authentic” a baseball “experience”. And, it offers the white fan an opportunity to claim a hipper, “in the know” status, which one cannot at Wrigley. Heck, the team even has “white” in its name! What more of an invitation do you need?!

Finally, it gives a small class of white people like me something very special–a psychic burden to mention at parties. I love being able to complain publically about being a south side “ex-pat” living near Wrigleyville. Go Sox!!!!

I agree. Wrigley Field is the ultimate emperor’s new clothes of baseball stadiums, a complete and utter dump with crappy seats and horrible sight lines filled to capacity with morons who think they are “keeping it real” baseballwise and are willing to pay sky high prices to watch one of the worst teams in baseball choke away another season.

You got to be kidding me.I cannot believe this list does not have ………RED SOX NATION…….Not trying to prove something but As a fan going back to late 1970s .They wouldn’t even sell out opening day or most of there seasons.I look in the crowd and see everybody under the age of 25 styling red sox gear.Hear in western Mass of the state the under 25 white kids are styling Yankee gear wear..trying to keep up with the Hispanic kids who actually from New York.Wearing it backwards.Wow American White kids today are really stupid or can easily be manipulated

Actually they remind me of the kids that I grew up with wearing Iron Maiden concert shirts but that was a few and far between.the crowd I hung out with that listen to metal and hair band music wore collared shirts or tee shirts.Also we never wore our red sox hats as going out gear

Ay, it’s more of a status thing. Wrigley Field is on the North side, where most middle/upper-class whites live (although I’ve been seeing more whites in Stony Island , must live in Hyde Park?), whereas the South has blacks/Hispanics, who are typically lower/middle-class. Only whites who live in Hyde Park, born Sox fans, or whites trying to look diverse are the ones who go to White Sox games.Most of the time, because they’re willing to take the Red Line (mostly black) or venture through the ghetto to get there (Dan Ryan’s scenery includes ghetto).
Black White Sox fan

There’s also some white White Sox fans left over from immigrant families who used to live on the south side when they were large European immigrant communities but have since moved out to the burbs… Irish, Polish, Lithuanian (my case)… that sort of thing

Uh, what the hell are you talking about? Only whites who live in Hyde Park? Have you ever even been to a ball game at Comiskey? It’s in a white neighborhood, home to the most die hard Sox fans there are. The South Side of Chicago is full of white neighborhoods, as well as black, latino, Chinese, etc. And we’re all united in geography, baseball, lack of khaki shorts, and a general sneer directed towards Wrigleyville. GO SOX!

You cinch it up and hunker down, just like Hawk tells you, and when you’re all cinched and hunkered, you dream about 2005, when the impossible became reality. You love those memories.

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The leader of the free world owns a home on the South Side and often sports a Sox cap.You also love Ozzie’s never-ending yap, the sweetest Spanglish you’ve ever heard, and you love Kenny’s cool confidence or arrogance, take your pick. You love A.J.’s smirks and his smarts, because they pay off more than a broken slot machine, and you love Buehrle’s quick pitches, throwing like he’s late for a date with a five-point buck, and you love big, bad Bobby Jenks because he kind of looks like your cousin from Bridgeport. You love Paulie and J.D., because they swing for the fences, like they ought to.

You loved Jerry Reinsdorf. Then you hated him. Then you loved him again. Then you hated him again. Now he’s got a lifetime pass. A World Series will do that for you. White Flag trade? Who can remember that far back?

If you are of a certain age, you will always love Little Louie, Nellie Fox, Dick Allen, Billy Pierce, the Winning Ugly crew, Disco Demolition and you wish the ghost of Shoeless Joe Jackson visited your backyard to impart words of wisdom.

If you’re a little younger, you cherish Joe Crede’s defense, Aaron Rowand’s hustle, El Duque’s one inning and Robin Ventura’s very existence. You cheered for Jim Thome’s 500th homer like he hit them all here and you wish Big Hurt would’ve retired on the South Side. In your head, you hear Gene Honda calling him to the plate, and you see him stand there, willing to take a walk or smack a home run.

Geoff Blum and Scott Podsednik can drink on your tab anytime.

You are a White Sox fan and you drive to the game — and always try to park on a side street for free. You have eaten a grilled cheese at Jimbo’s and washed it down with a beer … or six. You wish you could still smoke in the park. You know it’s not politically correct, but you do.

‘We’re hard-core’

You are Scott Johnsen. It’s Opening Day and you’re decked out in an authentic Sox jersey and a Sox hat. You have a Sox tattoo that runs from your left shoulder halfway down your massive arm, just shy of the full-color Bears logo that adorns your equally massive forearm. That was a going-away gift from a buddy, when you left for the Army. You’re a mechanic now, or you were until you got laid off.

You don’t look like a soldier, with your gauge earrings and spike piercing protruding from the space under your bottom lip. But you were. You missed the 2005 season when you were stationed in Seattle. You asked for leave, but got denied. You thought about going AWOL, but instead you locked yourself in your apartment, turned off your phone and turned on the TV. Now, you’re back, living by Midway, and you want to be here when the Sox win it all again. How do you describe your fellow fans? “We’re hard-core,” you say. “You have to be hard-core. We were bad for a lot of years. We’re South Siders, blue collar.”

You are a Sox Sider. You live on the South Side, but you don’t have to, to be a real fan. It doesn’t really matter. It hasn’t in years, decades, maybe a generation. Gentrification. Projects going up, projects coming down. Where there were once Irish and Italians butting heads, it’s black, white, Latinos from a dozen countries.

“It’s not just about living here,” you say. “Most people don’t live here anymore. It’s all about where you grew up and remembering what it was like. This team is like that.”

No, the whole South Side mindset is beyond geography. It’s more about an ideal, a historical yearning perhaps. A South Sider has a timeless sense of being overlooked, underappreciated, downtrodden, but still tough.

Always tough. Tough enough where you don’t care about
ephemeral things, like respect from the so-called experts.

“We’re better when we’re underdogs,” you say. “Pick us last every year, I don’t care.”

Brotherly love

You are Michael Seymour. You are 57 and live in St. Charles. You have no connection to the South Side. You grew up with three brothers and a single mother. The only time your mother, God bless her heart, could get you boys to a game was at night. You became a Sox fan. The Seymour brothers made it to Opening Day every year, until they started passing away. You’re at Opening Day with younger brother Steve, a 55-year-old with a full head of white hair. Your younger brothers Doug and Kevin both died of heart disease in the past nine years. But you two are here.

You love the team, not the side of town they play on.

Unlocking ‘The Cell’

You are a White Sox fan, and you still call it Sox Park, even though it was named for Old Man Comiskey from 1976 until U.S. Cellular, a cell-phone company you probably don’t use, forced itself unto your tongue in 2003. Maybe you still call it Comiskey or you call it The Cell, because it’s funny and for a while it seemed like someone was getting arrested there every night.

One thing’s for damn sure, you don’t call it U.S. Cellular Field.

You like going there because it’s not Wrigley Field. You hate Wrigley, even more than you hated Sosa, Mark Prior, Kerry Wood and Ronnie Woo Woo. You hate Wrigley because of what it stands for — tourists, fake fans and stuck-up suburbanites.

‘Do better than the Cubs’

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Paul Konerko’s grand slam helped carry the Sox to the 2005 World Series crown.You are Paul Konerko, the captain of the Chicago White Sox. You know your fans as well as anyone on the team. You know how they feel like second-class citizens in their own city, because for a long while you probably felt the same way. Baseball players might act like they don’t need the media, don’t want the media buzzing around their lockers, but when the nightly news leads with your rivals, every night, you get a South Side-sized chip on your shoulder, too.

“I think the mindset is to do better than the Cubs,” you tell a reporter on Opening Day. “I think some fans are like that. Since we’ve won the World Series, some fans are just more focused on us.”

You’ve been around long enough to know that when you play for a Major League Baseball team, you’re not really playing for a city. You’re playing for yourself, your family, your teammates, and, yes, you want to win for your leather-lunged fans, too. But you did feel the fans lift you across the bases in that World Series game when you slugged that grand slam. And now you know the fans have changed since that fall. When you win it all, “with that comes the expectation that you have to do that every year,” you say. And you kind of like that pressure.

Pure honesty

You are Ozzie Guillen. You have come to define the White Sox for the past two decades, first as a player and then as the manager. Your hair is perfect, jet black from the bottle. You swear like a Beverly housewife with a broken dishwasher, and everyone loves you for it. It’s real, it’s natural. You talk like you swallowed a truth serum in a Quentin Tarantino movie. “One thing about myself,” you say, “I never lie to the fans, and I never will.” If your team is garbage this year, “I’ll say they stink when they stink.” What else should you say?
You have no filter. Maybe it’s better that way. Fans can smell a liar like the old hog yards and slaughterhouses that the TV broadcasters waxed nostalgic about during the ’05 Series. When the Sox stunk in 2007, you suffered through it. When the Sox collapsed down the stretch in 2006, you didn’t hide. You joked around with the media in an empty clubhouse before games as you watched teams pass you by. You keep saying you can quit at anytime, retire to your boat in Miami, your compound in Venezuela. But here you are. Can you leave this life? You don’t really know.

April optimism abounds

You are a White Sox fan, and you are optimistic. It’s April, the squad is 3-3, and the season will unfold soon enough. Now is still the time to dream. And, yeah, if you were in charge, maybe you don’t stick with Dewayne Wise in center, Chris Getz at second and the rotund Bartolo Colon at the back of the five-man rotation. But you know that Kenny has a plan. After all, who thought Podsednik for Lee was a great deal? A.J. Pierzynski? Then later, Brandon McCarthy for John Danks? Carlos Quentin? All madness.

You are Kenny Williams and you’re spouting the optimism of April.

“I think the average Sox fan feels great, and not only about this season, but where we’re positioned for the future,” you say. “To a large degree, that makes me feel good, that they’ve gotten to a point where they can trust us to put a competitive team on the field or go down fighting.”

Fueled by disrespect

You are a White Sox fan and you have a chip on your shoulder, just like Kenny usually does, because the White Sox won the whole thing and brought a parade to downtown that crisp October afternoon, and more than half the city just didn’t give a damn. It was as if the Red Sox won.

And you feed off that disrespect, even though “Da Mare” isa Sox fan and President Obama is a Sox fan and the only leader of the free world to have a summer home on the South Side of Chicago.

But it all comes back to respect and that other team in town. The Cubs get the celebrities to come to their games and bellow out “Take Me Out to the Ballgame” and gab about how great Wrigley is, and how real baseball is played on the North Side, just because that stadium has some plants on the walls, an old scoreboard with no replays and a bunch of bars flanking its expanse.

But then you think about this: The Sox have Obama, Daley and the late, great Bernie Mac. The Cubs have Rod Blagojevich, George Will and Jim Belushi.

And you know that while everyone is all about the North Side nowadays, the South Side birthed Chicago’s intellectual heart and its musical soul. The South Side has jazz and the University of Chicago, Saul Bellow and Richard Wright, Upton Sinclair’s “Jungle” and Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow PUSH, Kanye West and Muddy Waters. The South Side is the proving ground of the Daleys and the atom bomb.

But you know that’s just history.

The Sox century

You are a White Sox fan.
You probably weren’t there when Paulie hit that grand slam, or when A.J. deked the entire Angels team, from Josh Paul to Gene Autry. You probably couldn’t afford a ticket. But you felt it, didn’t you? The South Side was back.

And after two down years — and really what’s two years when it took 88 to win one — you came alive again during that week last fall. You got tickets and you wore black, like Johnny Cash in concert. You willed the team to win, didn’t you? You were a part of it.

You are a White Sox fan, and it’s better to love something and feel pain sometimes, because you were rewarded once and you never know when fate will smile on your hard-core, tattooed arm once again.
One thing’s for sure, only one baseball team has won it all this century in the great city of Chicago.
You are a White Sox fan, and you know the score.

Wrigley field is cool.. i dont look to much into it. now northside chicago, those are some stuck up whites. I grew up on the southside to a poor-mid-class family and i wouldnt have it anyother way. I rode the bus and took the train into chicago and when i got my license i drove into chicago and took lake shore drive as a major street home. Now i live in las vegas and i see in the newspaper some white old cockhole who has ties to chicagos rap scene.. think crucial conflict, R Kelly whatever.. and he says you have to walk around with a machine gun on the southside; bull shit. I as a white person was thuroughly offended by this white prick misrepresenting the southside in such a way. Just cause most people in vegas havent been to or lived on the southside chicago doesnt mean they can let this dude speak out his ass.

Point is I’d cut him if i ever seen him cause he pissed this southside chick off.

I WANT A MILLION DOLLARS!!! Can one million RICH WHITE PEOPLE send me one dollar apiece, puh-lease????

I don’t want money from any Asians, or Blacks or Hispanics. You guys NEED your money. I only want one dollar apiece from RICH WHITE PEOPLE who seem to WASTE their money on tickets to a Cubs game at Wrigley Field.

Waste it on me instead. Thanks so much! (First person who comments “You ARE a waste.” is a rotten egg. You thought it. I know you did. Stop lying. See? I knew it.)

Wrigley Field is hip (even more than Comiskey Park in the “Dark side” of town) due to the sorry-sore-losers Chicago Cubs never got to a world series in 100 years. The Cubs and Wrigley field, like historic classic sports legends like the New York Yankees or the Brooklyn/L.A. Dodgers is because of the working men’s support of their home teams. And I’m an Angel fan, Anaheim was blessed to have a pro sports team of any kind, most of them second-rate sports or minor league teams vanish anyway. I’m an Angels fan since they had spring training in Palm Springs back in my childhood (the 1980’s of course), a minor league affiliate in the early 90s and really thought P.S. city mayor Sonny Bono didn’t care for them, he chased out spring break visitors and brought a snob-commodity for aging yuppies there. +

Me too! Real baseball fans chose a good team: The 1992-93 Blue Jays are a good example. I rooted for them beat the Braves and Phillies (sorry, I’m an American from Sou. Cal.), and still rooting for the (what they’re from) Angels. GO ANGELS! May the team clinch the AL West division title, beat the Red sox or Yanks first round, and reach the ALCS or better yet, the world series: Dodgers suck. Padres too. +

I believe the Angels defeated the Dodgers in a 3-game series, despite the Dodgers under Joe Torre’s management won more games than any other team in the 2009 season. Currently, the Angels and Dodgers lead their respective leagues, and with L.A. celebrating the Lakers’ NBA championship title, why not an all-L.A. world series? +

The former O.C. white residents continually drive to Angels stadium (or is it Anaheim stadium?) in 60-mile trips, but by the cost of tickets, programs and souvenirs, most baseball fans watch it on TV from their homes. The suburbs east of L.A. have 4 or 5 teams in the California League is a class-A minor league: the 8th wonder of the world with teams had 26-1 scores and 15,000 fans attend a single ball game. +

In L.A., usually the Hispanics wear Dodgers caps, Raiders jackets, Lakers jerseys and even L.A. Kings sweaters, not for gang insignia purposes but out of the same ethnic and civil pride you see in the Boston Irish (Celtics), Green Bay Scandinavians (Packers), Montreal French-Canadiens (Les Habs) and Italy soccer uniforms lately in Italo-Americans. +

White people (Americans) are like “Filipinos live in Canada?” Well yeah, same logic applies for Croatians in Argentina, East Indians in Kenya and Somalis in Sweden. It doesn’t hurt to read, look up the internet, watch PBS news shows or listen to the shortwave…to learn about countries, people and cultures. I don’t always follow (but reads) wikipedia, the favorite site for IP-banned white racist spam trolls.+

The Cubs team board wants a new ballpark or renovate the seating capacity to league standard. Well, the Cubs fans won’t want things to change. Baseball is heading back to the cities, the problem is the back-to-the-city trend has to do with money…lots of it…and post-war suburban stadiums are becoming useless. The Astrodome in Houston is a goner, same with the Kingdome and Suncoast Dome in Tampa bay, the “purists” in baseball never liked domed ballparks as much they denounced regular interleague play when first introduced in 1997. +

Is Jim Croce Jewish? Or like Raffi, an Armenian? Not that it really matters, is it true he’s Black somewhere in his family tree? I see a new trend among famous white people: I’m part-black. Don’t tell Mariah Carey, Halle Berry, Tiger Woods or Lenny Kravitz, they struggled with being bi-racial in a different era they grew up in. +

Cubs fan tradition include catching a ball and returning it, the only MLB ball park with the asinine policy for doing so. They seem to take it religiously in Wrigley field, plus the infamous tale of the Greek man took his goat in Wrigley field in Aug 1945 and “cursing” the Cubs to never win a world series (and hadn’t won the pennant in 64 years).+

Alright, I’m goin to post in #14, (did it skip 13)? Besides, do white racists like to watch pro sports play where a high percentage of players are black? I like to see #128 about the NBA: the team to rave about is the Utah Jazz in the “lily white” Salt Lake City area. Go for it, dude (white-speak). +

My mom, sister, and I were shopping on the north side in our sox shirts since we were going to a game later and when we stopped in the t-mobile store one of the salesmen told us that the phones were half price for cubs fans and double for sox fans to which my mother reminded him that the sox are in first or second place in the division whereas the cubs were about seven games out of THE WILD CARD! The man looked confused, like he didn’t know teams came in “places” in baseball or what a “wildcard” even was… Plus he was gay to the maxxxxx! Just goes to show, Wrigley’s just the biggest gay bar out there and there just happens to be bad baseball going on at the same time 🙂 feel informed

Try seeing a show at the Rivinia! I swear, it was quite possibly the whitest thing I’d ever seen in my entire life! People brought coffee tables and set vases of flowers on them so they could sit on a lawn and listen to west side story since theatre tickets are even too exensive for white people

I am from Chciago and I am a Cubs fan. this post ONLY refers to the bleachers, and not everybody there. Many people in the bleachers, not most, are true Cub fans. If you go any where else in the stadium, you will find TRUE Cubs fans. And, most Cub fans are not out of State fans like this guy said, most are form the city, again, most in the bleachers wearing the khakis and polos, are not from the city, take it from a TRUE Cub fan (been alive 16 years and i have gone to a Cubs game, normally more than one, each year of my life.)

The high costs of ticket attendance for even one person in Major League baseball is a problem the sport must resolve. 25-30 million fans attended minor league baseball than the 15 million fans in all 30 MLB teams. You have four levels of play in the minors: rookie, class A, double A and the AAA. Independent, collegiate level and winter-time leagues are included, therefore you got more pro ball teams to root for wherever you live. +

“Also many white people listen to Jim Croce (whom most think is black) and the perception of most non-Chicago people (the majority of Cubs fans) of the Windy city is through the song “Bad. bad, Leroy Brown”

Jim Croce is black? I don’t think so. He’s probably Jewish, but you can’t say that. His face reminds white racists or neo-Nazis of what a “Jew” looks like. Anyone can be Jewish, I may well convert tomorrow or if I change faiths again with a Jewish wife, my kid will remain Jewish in Halakhic law. +

mylosh, you been bussed to a French-speaking school? In good ol’ America, we’re still busing white kids to all-black schools, blacks to all-white, Hispanics to each, and we’re having Spanish-speaking schools. I wonder where the “smart” Asians fit in, but don’t forget Indian tribal and Jewish private schools. White people like integration but have each public school for 98% of a certain racial, ethnic or religious group. Quebec, Canada is known for 5 different schools before the 1980’s: English Protestant, French Catholic, English Catholic and (sparse) French protestant. The fifth was secular for anyone though Quebec public law 101 in 1974 required them to instruct solely in French. +

For the best baseball fans, go down to the Marlins fan base of Miami’s Little Havana and the Japanese community in Seattle, since the Mariners are owned by Nintendo America. The L.A. Dodgers manage to sign up a few Koreans and Koreatown is a walking distance from Chavez Ravine, the original name for Dodger Stadium in the Echo Lake barrio. +

Well, the Cubs should be renamed the Aryans, Nordics and Teutons to appear how white they are (ROFL, that was bad). Anyone recall the “Indians” name protest and the Braves fan tomahawk controversy? Surprisingly, the teams aren’t renamed in order to be politically correct. I’m of part (1/4?) Cherokee/Osage Indian descent, but never felt very offended except the mascots or logos were changed in a way I approve of. The team nicknames were dedicated to the Pequots in Boston and chief Cuyahoga in Cleveland. +

A year late when he wrote it, must been too busy like any white urban professional in a career 6 days/60 hrs. a week. How about reading #28 (NO TV)? At least they own PC’s a lot longer than black people (or in J.C. Lander’s world). +

In 2003, the then Cubs manager Dusty Baker in the spring training camp in Mesa, Az. believes in the superiority of Blacks/Africans are “good in playing out in the heat”… and “this is why my people were brought here in the country, in the hot humid South from west Africa”. Sounds kinda racist, but I only knew he was a loser when he was manager of the Giants defeated in the 2002 world series to (guess who?) GO ANGELS! May we be 2009 champs! +

Not since 1947 when Jackie Robinson of the Brooklyn (now L.A.) Dodgers changed all that. Without him, you wouldn’t have Satchel Paige, Hank Aaron, Ken Griffey Sr. & Jr., Willie Mays and Barry Bonds (like him or not). Today, the Major leagues alike the NBA and the NFL are over 60% black with the rest Hispanic (a group of any race, many are black). +

As a bi-racial individual who attends a liberal arts college in Utah and loves most New York teams, here’s what I’ve noticed about white people’s team loyalties:
*Boston teams–they love ’em all. Especially the Red Sox.
*They like the Cubs–white people like ’em for the reasons mentioned. However, they don’t love them like the Red Sox.
*They also root for the Packers–while they’re from a small town, they’re also the only non-profit, community-owned team in professional sports.
*The Blackhawks are their hockey team–like their fellow Cubs, they have the longest championship drought in their league, their payroll is smaller than the Rangers, and they’re located in a safe neighborhood in ChiTown.

My observations about teams white people hate:
*Any New York or L.A. team–white people hate them b/c they all have high payrolls, their owners frequently pursue free agents, they have a lot of championships combined, and their fans are a mix of rich and poor, and often multi-racial rather than middle class whites. The Yankees and the Lakers are the biggest offenders among white people and as an Evil Empire fan, I’ve already done my part.
*The White Sox–need I explain?
*The Raiders. Their city isn’t very safe, and their fans are just as rowdy, obnoxious, and multi-racial as any New York or L.A fan.
*The Cowboys–they’re from Texas, they’ve got a large payroll, and they have more Super Bowl victories than the Patriots or the Packers.
*The Red Wings–they’re the U.S. NHL team with the most Stanley Cup victories and they frequently pursue free agents.

Why are you worried about the high price of the tickets, your broke ass can’t afford to pay for anything. YOu claimed to be such a world traveler, but you break the bank when buying a ticket to the ball game. What a wuss.+

“Also once a friend of mine was sitting in the bleachers next to a pretty girl with an LSU sweater. She was talking about Baton Rouge and said “I love it but I can’t stand all the n%#%%ers” TRUE STORY. ”

WTF? Did she said that? You might well be in an Utah Jazz NBA game with a transplant from New York and he shouts “Not a lot of Jews here, huh?” I hope he isn’t right next to Salt Lake City native and token Jew Roseanne. XD

Sooo much hate for the Cubs!! As a loyal Cubs fan from Illinois, not Chicago and not a rich one at that, all i gotta say is this was funny. I took it with a grain of salt. Just like you gotta do when they say “Cubs = completely useless by september.” Ha. ha. Oh well! We always have next year! People shouldn’t take things so literally! I don’t mean that to the poster, i mean that to the commentator’s. GO CUBBIES!!

I am black and I grew up in the middle class south-side town of Chicago. I have been a Cubs fan and still to this day,I enjoy going to the North-side of town. Just like any major city,races seem to cling to certain parts of town. Black people like the cubs and we do pay to go to the games,most black people I know dislike the Cubs,it is due to the losing records that they put up each year. Black people like to identify with winning teams,a”la Micheal JORDAN AND THE BULLS IN THE LATE 80″S .

I had no idea it’s trendy to like the Cubs now. I’ve loved them since forever. I’m only half white and the other half didn’t get here till the 70s so I guess the Cubs loving came from white people. But I know a ton of white people who like the Sox too. And they suck. Bleacher bums used to be known as the hardest core fans, sounds like that’s no longer the case and that’s sad. Of course I moved out of Illinois when people were still watching the game on their roofs on lawn chairs before they had those stupid stadium seats up there. You couldn’t have paid me to sit in the bleachers anyway, I want shade and maybe a breeze. I always liked the cheap seats on the 3rd base side.

Wrigley is SOOOOOO white! In fact my ex boyfriend loved taking me to Cubs games all the time. I was born on the North Side of Chicago but grew to dislike th Cubs greatly due to their fan base. Annoying frat boy frat girls exactly as outlined above…I don’t think i could handle seeing one more pony tail sticking out of a pink Cubs hat.

This comment made me laugh out loud at a really inappropriate time since I’m working in the back of a room holding a conference on encouraging women to run for public office. So congrats, you made me sound like a misogynist to everyone in this room. Go Sox!

I think a lot of you have problems understanding these are just broad funny stereotypes that apply to the current (young 20-30’s) white population of the USA. Of course black people, and Asian, and Latino people do some of these things. Of course all white people don’t do all these things. These are just FUNNY STEREOTYPES that are oddly and recently very prevalent in American White culture. I am very guilty of a lot of these. I think it is really funny. I live in Japan, have an Asian girlfriend, like mos def, used to make movies, wanted to be a writer, like to camp, etc, etc. No I don’t do yoga and don’t really like tea… and I am NOT going to be all defense and complain that this list is stupid and I guess I am not white cause I don’t drink wine. Just enjoy this for what it is. BROAD STEREOTYPES. one more thing. Stop being so defensive. one one more. You dont need to post on every thing that you DONT do, “I don’t do …..” whatever. good for you.

here is an idea for the next item. Stuff white people like: not having a sense of humor or being remotely opened minded.

ACE!! Reading through the list, EPIC! For this one i had to post! Making fun of white stereotypes, calling out Wrigley for its BS and giving props to my Dodgers all in one! *High five* Hispanic myself, always heard the scum sat in the bleachers but i have sat there on occasion with free tickets and i found the people friendly and it seemed like they all knew each other, great! With the whole LSU thing, i always find it funny to see all those Southern schools doing great in college sports when most of the team is black, i bet the next day walking around campus they wouldn’t even hesitate to call them the N word, funny and twisted at the same time.

Astute and funny observations. It should also be noted, though, that there are a lot of people now living in Chicago who moved there from Michigan, due to the lack of jobs in that state. Anyone who has grown up in Michigan as a Detroit Tigers fan has essentially spent his/her childhood hating the Yankees and the White Sox. No real Michiganian, white or otherwise, moves to Chicago and begins rooting for the hated Sox–not when there’s another MLB franchise in town.

True. I never understood why people west of the Mississippi would give 2 poops about the Cubs. I grew up a Dodger fan in Hemet and saw them as no natural rivals or anything. But I knew this guy in high school. He was a dirt poor farmer’s kid, who’s family was so empoverished, and had so many kids, half of them had to camp outside in tents in their backyard. This guy literally wore the same clothes to school everyday. I felt bad for him. But one thing he had and CHERISHED, was his stupid Cubs hat, and talked endlessly about how great the Cubs were, and how much tradition they had, etc. Dude had never been to Chicago in his life! lol Poor white pride runs deep, I guess.

….I’m back, SWPL. This is Michael who ends his sigs with the “+” for No reason. I’m watching the MLB all-star game live from Angel Stadium in Anaheim. I’m from Indio in the Cal. desert on the other side of the mountain (San Jacinto) from annablue of Hemet…and grew up visiting my Dad’s in Palm Springs not far from the Angels’ spring training camp in the late 80s (when spring break parties were around). About the Cubs fans in the west coast, the Chicago Cubs and the Wrigley company has west coast foundations in the 1920’s to 50’s, when the Cubs’ came by L.A. or Long Beach for spring training, and the Wrigley family owned an island Santa Catalina, 26 miles offshore, and the rich partied in the lil’ fishing village of Avalon. Anyways…GO Angels! +

I live in Miami and found that post to be humorous, but only because I know that to be true and not what is reported by the media and other fans. They don’t go to Marlins games because of the lack of public transportation, but they’re always listening on the radio and watching the games on TV. This will change when they move into their new ballpark.

As for this post, as a Cuban Cubs fan who’s been to wrigley once, I sat on the first base side, great friendly fans. Didn’t sit in the bleachers, and glad I didn’t. The bleachers are filled with people who are there because its a “scene” but with the struggles this season that’s slowly eroding, in fact yesterday’s game looked like a pre-1984 game, half empty bleachers.

I thought white people are nostalagic for minor league baseball. Watch the movie “Bull Durham” and you’ll see. The problem is, the minors are small towns in the sticks or suburbs home to non-affluent white families with young kids, or worse (rednecks), the rural character of white folk.

*musical beeps* This Just in: the Phillies advance to the NLCS and the Yanks are in the ALCS yet again. I hate to brag, but the Reds are the oldest ball team in America goes back to 1869! Let’s see if the San Francisco Giants and Texas Rangers after 50 miserable seasons make something out of the postseason. The Giants never won a world series from my knowledge in baseball history.

As an actual Chicagoan, I loathe most Cubs fans. The majority of them are out-of-towners who grew up watching WGN and hearing about how ‘cool’ Wrigley Field is. Wrigley field is an uncomfortable, dank pit with lousy food. These types of fans are destroying the connection between the city and one of its teams. I don’t hate the cubs, but the frat party atmosphere of Wrigley and Wrigleyville is a major turn off. For a better experience, a better ballpark (and a better team!) go to the Southside and see the White Sox.

The only reason I even know of Wrigley Field is it’s connection to the original Blues Brothers Movie. Which, frankly, should be one of the things white people like, seeing as it makes us feel like we have ‘soul’.

I used to live right up the street from Wrigley. On days when there was a game it was hell to try to ride “the L” because it would be packed with a bunch of preppy college guys and snobby out of towners pushing thier way to the park. All I wanted to do was get home from work…..

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Whoever wrote this is a racist piece of shit. I’m so sick of the “black people can’t be racist” argument, when in fact you are the MOST openly racist people in the country.
You’ve never picked cotton, you don’t even know anyone who’s ever picked cotton, and I’ve never owned a slave. So, stfu!
You racist fuck.