BELMONT, Maine  Mack Page was sound asleep in his bed at 11 p.m. on Monday, Dec. 3, when he was startled awake by the frantic barking of his black Labrador.

What have I got now? the 63-year-old commander of the Maine Militia remembers wondering. A raccoon? A coyote?

But it was none of those things. Instead, Pages dark residence on a quiet Belmont road suddenly was lit up by men outside his windows carrying flashlights. He lives alone, hes not in the best of health and he was scared.

They called, State police! Come out with your hands up! he said earlier this week. I dont know if I got paranoid or just angry, but I challenged them. Who the hell are you? Am I going to get tazed? Am I going to get shot by somebody?

The school tragedy had the effect of sharpening public attention on guns, and if the cops had succeeded in provoking a shoot-out with a known militia member at exactly the same time, then the pressure for new gun laws about go up 500%.

Just more political treachery.

WHO was the right perp, hmmm....?? Let’s hear it.

We won’t because there IS no perp nearby —he WAS the target that night.

"So now, the undercover police SWAT teams, out on midnight raids, just go the any house when they don't have a solid address?"

Uh, yes. I read almost weekly about police going to the wrong address. I realize that most cop shows (CSI, NCIS, Hawaii 5.0) are fiction, but really? With all the resources at their command, the cops can't get the correct house so many times? I'm thinking incompetence.

And that is why, "when seconds count, the police are minutes away". Stay armed and stay safe, and use your head if they break in - this man did.

You've got THAT right, FRiend. This was a total set-up designed to provoke a response quite different than the one that transpired. I fully expect to read about an armed "stand-off" or a shoot-out with massed LEOs in the not to distant future. Zer0 needs cover to exploit the CT horror.

I do not believe a probation officer can give his authority to a police officer for a warrantless search of a residence. Probation officers can enter residences without permission for searches, have probationers arrested without warrants, and probationers can be held without bond until arriagned. The probation officer has to be present to do this type of a check. The cops can’t do it because the probation officer called them and asked them to do so. Maybe an attorney can correct me here.

In the age of Google maps, drones filling the skies and surveillance cameras on every tree, why should anyone believe this was a mistake?

Not to mention county property records and the Census Bureau putting a GPS tag on every property in the country. Given the same 'basic directions' these cops claim they were going by I'll bet any one of us could find the actual address and Mack Page's name in about 20 minutes without even using one of those 'pay to ID' websites. With Google Earth and Zillow we could have sat pics of the house and real estate records with loads of details.

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posted on 12/15/2012 11:59:51 AM PST
by TigersEye
(Who is John Galt?)

Scarry - too close to home. Actually, too close to any of us in the country.

On anonymous tips, they can come in like an armed military brigade - over an unsubstaniated ‘parols violation’?

It seems these brigades now pull a full out assualt without first even doing the most curury investigation of the matter -

Truly third world.

What if Mack hadn’t been who he is and had the personal connections he did? And if he hadn’t had the smarts to make the contacts he did?

If he had opened his door and come out as instructed, he could well have ended up with lots of daylight holes in his body because some nervous gendarme with a gun trained on him thought he saw a gun or a suspicious movement? One shot shot have been followed by a volly.

Question: What parole violation, let alone from an anonymous tip, would warrent such a brigade action - and in the middle of the night?

I'd also be suspicious of - and law enforcement should consider - regarding anonymous tips - that the bad guys often make these 'tip calls' in the hopes the good guy that may be a hindrance to his activities - get taken out.

I’ve served a lot of warrants. It is not uncommon for criminals to give bad addresses. It’s not uncommon for parolees to do the same. I’ve been to many houses serving warrants where the address was bad. It’s not uncommon to go to a house with several police officers if your looking for a real bad guy.

It happens. It’s going to continue to happen. A sheriff came into my house with a warrant for the arrest of a man with the same name as me. (I was a cop at the time) Some guy used my birthday, address and committed some thefts.

He was about to put me in cuffs but had called for assistance from our police dept. An officer from my dept. looked at the warrant and cleared the mess up before I got dragged off to jail. The deputy was a little too eager to arrest me and didn’t check the social security numbers. They didn’t match.

And another thing, not all cops hate militias. Even though I’m a little past the official age, I am the militia.

Friend on the force told me once that when things get slow and beds empty in jail the police troops do sweeps of probationers because most are young and will be in violation one way or another (smoking, alcohol present on property, some illegal substance in house, stolen property, underage females..., registration expired...on and on doing the bogus things young people do) Probation expectations are so stringent that they always can be brought in.

We have become a totalitarian police state.

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posted on 12/15/2012 3:14:40 PM PST
by Chickensoup
(Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)

Supposing other militia members decided to get into the act and anonymously arrange to have a swarm of cops do a midnight raid on a house at one end of town and then they simultaneously cause a big ol’ ruckus at the other end of town.

Separate but related: Some cops are good, some cops are bad, but almost every cop feels like they’re above the law because they are the law. Protect and serve is no longer what they’re about.

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