Yes...that athletic build is tough some times...give them a cold soak and they might fit better. I did this at first and they fit great for awhile then I kept loosing weight/waistline because im walking to work and running more plus eating less. If they become too loose just give them another hot soak to shrink them up a bit. Thats where I am now and I still wear them alot.

I have a fairly athletic build and I just size for my quads and let them rest on my hips/keep them slouchy in the top block.

Right now the waist fits pretty loose since I lost a ton of weight. I was originally planning on going with size 29, but after looking at the size charts I think maybe a 28 would be better. I really want to get a good fit because I'm buying off eBay so returns aren't a possibility.

WG??? 28? all measurements I've seen say they have a 11" thigh. Unless your cousin has some large thighs that I can't see. I think the biggest part of my thighs are 17 or 18". 29's are a little too loose for my liking. looking for a similar fit to that tho...maybe not as tight

The Chino's don't really stretch, if you can't button it all the way up or they are a little to tight in the thighs you need to size up.

You should go TTS with your ACTUAL waist size.

True the chinos don't stretch, but you're assuming he didn't go TTS on his denim. I own 2 pairs of Weird Guy denim and 2 pairs of the chinos and I went TTS on all of them, and they all fit great. The guy above who posted a pic of himself in the chinos who sized up - those look too loose.

The Chino's don't really stretch, if you can't button it all the way up or they are a little to tight in the thighs you need to size up.

You should go TTS with your ACTUAL waist size.

you really recommend going TTS with the chinos even tho they are Weird Guys and vanity sized down 2???

my only other pair of NF's are Left Hand Twill weird guys which I got in size 28 from 2 runs ago when they were vanity sized down 3 instead of 2 (according to blueowl measurements). My waist where I wear my pants is 31". Those jeans were super tight at first but have stretched out to fit perfectly.

Now I'm debating buying the red chinos from blueowl in size 29....I feel like 30 would be ideal but they don't have any left in stock. ughhhhhhh so difficult to decide.

WG??? 28? all measurements I've seen say they have a 11" thigh. Unless your cousin has some large thighs that I can't see. I think the biggest part of my thighs are 17 or 18". 29's are a little too loose for my liking. looking for a similar fit to that tho...maybe not as tight

WG??? 28? all measurements I've seen say they have a 11" thigh. Unless your cousin has some large thighs that I can't see. I think the biggest part of my thighs are 17 or 18". 29's are a little too loose for my liking. looking for a similar fit to that tho...maybe not as tight

You just have chicken legs. The potential is strong in his cousin if he's already got 22" quads at 12