Geez, I know FR is going full Newt ahead and that’s fine. But to consistently lie about RP is beneath us. He wants that power returned to the states. Hopefully, it will be decriminalized, not acceptable. If not, your state can give the death penalty for it, if it wants.

I dislike campaigns because of the, “My candidate is the best and anyone who chooses anyone else is a moron!” mentality. I’m just hoping we don’t get a globalist.

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posted on 01/31/2012 4:04:11 AM PST
by martian622
(The Revolution is being televised.)

While Ron Paul has said on TV shows such as Glen Beck that he dismisses the major theories, he openly says there is a coverup of what went on yet refuses to elaborate on just what is covered up. The 9/11 Comission clearly showed that intelligence failures happened because of Clinton era laws that prevented our inteligence agancies from communicating with each other.

A direct quote from this conference is as such:
(January 20, 2010) House Rep. Ron Paul says the CIA has in effect carried out a “coup” against the US government, and the intelligence agency needs to be “taken out.”

Speaking to an audience of like-minded libertarians at a Campaign for Liberty regional conference in Atlanta this past weekend, the Texas Republican said: “There’s been a coup, have you heard? It’s the CIA coup. The CIA runs everything, they run the military. They’re the ones who are over there lobbing missiles and bombs on countries...”

And here is one prominant website that supports the 9/11 conspiracy theories, calling for a RON PAUL PROVISIONAL ARMY to take over after we investigate the 9/11 events:http://how911wasdone.blogspot.com/

Among the other kooky connections to Ron Paul, is a UFO COnnection. I have yet to find the original article, but numerous articles repeat the belief of Ron Paul’s that UFO’s are real. Some of the Ron Paul sites have soeone trying to mock this belief, but the Ron Paul site, DailyPaul.com says this:http://dailypaul.com/node/125999

Glenn Beck exposes Ron Paul’s ties to Soros. Does it shock you, or does it do much to explain why Ron Paul is friendly with “Bawney” Frank and almost as bad as Obama is when it comes to illegal aliens and Islam? Listen to video please.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFSHGhq19CM

As homosexual Army soldier Bradley Mannings treason trial continues at Fort Meade, Maryland, the support he has received from Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul has been curiously ignored by the major media, now touting Paul as someone who could win the January 3 Iowa Republican Caucuses. Paul has called Manning, a crossdresser with acknowledged mental problems, a hero and patriot for stealing government secrets and providing them to WikiLeaks.http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/2011/12/21/kincaid-ron-paul-says-accused-traitor-is-a-patriot/

While campaigning in Iowa on Wednesday, Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul praised the Occupy Wall Street movement, comparing it to the Tea Party movement. “In many ways, I identify with both groups,” Paul said. Both groups are fed up with problems in Washington and “the two-party-system,” Paul said while speaking at an insurance company in Des Moines. Praising the left-wing Occupy Wall Street movement is an unusual move for a Republican presidential candidate, but Ron Paul is, of course, an unusual Republican presidential candidate. He jumped to first place in the Iowa caucus polls partly because of support from people who aren’t Republicans. His comments that members of the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street are unhappy with the “two-party system” could fuel speculation that Paul will make a third-party bid of his own—something he has not ruled out.http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/ron-paul-praises-occupy-wall-street_614967.html

The fact that Ron Paul supporters would get their panties in a wad over a very tough primary where the candidates own words are used against him and then not support the eventual Republican opponent against Obamah tells me all I want to know about those people.

It's a tough primary, if you can't stand the scrutiny, then maybe you picked the wrong candidate?

in many states, the young Paulistas are the only competition for ROMNEY in his fight to accumulate delegates.

ROMNEY is the enemy. Especially since the Reagan right refuses to organize themselves by doing any real politics. I would estimate that there are 100 very active Paulistas in Maine working on the caucuses. And there are ZERO Newt-Santorum folks. It is such a thrill to be part of a campaign that doesn’t exist.

If anyone has a phone number of the Maine Santorum coordinator, post it here. His office says they don’t got one.

I hope that this is just a East Coast problem. If the paulistas dominate the Idaho, Kansas & Missouri caucuses next month, we’all will have what excuses?

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posted on 01/31/2012 4:58:05 AM PST
by campaignPete R-CT
(and I will go to southern Maine to campaign against MITT.)

Why are you singling out Paul followers for not supporting the eventual GOP nominee? Most Newt supporters, including the owner of this site, have repeatedly said they will never vote for Romney if he’s the nominee.

Newt is the only one who has a track record of actually doing it. Remember, he forced Clinton's hand through a government shut down and actually gave us our only balanced budget in the past century. An actual record of doing something is better than someone who talks a lot but has zero record of accomplishments...and yes, he has called for a similar plan as he had in the 90s to cut spending down to a balanced budget.

In most jobs, you hire the person with a record of success, not the person who just 'believes' things. Anyone can believe and talk, few can do. (unless you are hiring a Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces solely to make square dancing a folk are- one of Paul's only legislative accomplishments in his decades in office).

With Romney you get socialism with an R after the name, with Newt you get old school politics, with Paul you get a prez with a single issue right with chaos on other issues and surrender politics on world affairs.

I think that Newt sees the bigger picture. Newt being a historian, sees a chance to man up to the position and become one of the all time great presidents. He knows that like Reagan, he would be remembered for his accomplishments rather than his checkered past, which, I think, is what appeals to him about the presisdency. His own place in history.

Ron Paul would peel off a lot of demos and independents and get a MASSIVE turnout by young people.

Even after the Obama slime machine goes to work? Most of what RaceBannon called out in post no. 4, and plenty more, will splashed across every tv screen in the country if Paul is the nominee. In spite of those issues on which Paul is 100% right, there is so much that he's said (or tacitly endorsed) that is repulsive to Americans, I just don't see the massive shift happening that you envision.

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posted on 01/31/2012 6:29:48 AM PST
by Fresh Wind
('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)

What in the world makes you think that Paul could beat Obama in the general election?

He'd have the youth vote, most all the people who are marked as fringe elements of either party, libertarians, and anyone who was serious about deposing Obama.

Would you not vote for Paul if he got the nomination? Stay home and sit down for Obama? Or would you vote against DuhWon and let the Congress do its job of proposing legislation for a signature or veto (while a half dozen executive branch departments closed their doors)?

If it really is ABO (anyone but obama), he could win.

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posted on 01/31/2012 7:21:37 AM PST
by Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)

The war on drugs has been the excuse for: Militarization of police forces,

gun control measures

turf wars

Little old ladies getting shot when their doors were kicked in 'by accident' at 4 AM,

Checkpoints everywhere,

Drives corruption with huge dollar amounts, everywhere from the Southern Border to small towns,

provides the profit motive for the Cartels in Mexico

and has been the source of erosion of the 4th, 5th, and 14th amendments in the past few decades.

Declare it over, and all you have is the druggies to deal with, the rest stops.

Billions in underground economy come out into the open, as do the effects of using the drugs which are currently banned.

I don't use them, I hate what they have done to individuals and our society, but I hate the spinoff effects of an ineffectual 'war' on them even more because those have robbed all of us of our Liberty and Rights, not just the dumbasses using the drugs.

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posted on 01/31/2012 7:30:41 AM PST
by Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)

The legalization of drugs is not the worst of Ron Paul’s positions, but the fact that the legalization of drugs seems to be the most important to many of his supporters is what makes Ron Paul dangerous.

I guess that is why 75% of all military donations got to
Paul because they want to be Junkies??? I bet you think Prohibition was great too? I noticed when Paul brought this up in a debate not too long ago the other candidates were silent about this point.

By the way Paul served in the military. Did Newt or Mitt?

Now you must think the Founding Fathers were all about Big Centralized Government and waging wars around the world for preemptive means? There is NOTHING conservative about that position.

Just looking at all your links (and not clicking them) tells any casual observer that you fear Ron Paul. On one hand you say he is a joke, and on the other hand you spend all your time researching him. OBVIOUSLY he is not that much of a joke or you would not have spent that much time trying to smear him.

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