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Awesome connect. I love this kind of thing, and hope to be able to do research on it eventually. (I've still got the niggling sensation that you should be able to tell where a melody like this is from by statistically assessing the similarity to the melodies originating in various musical genres. Meanwhile I'll just have to concentrate on specific examples, like I'm doing with Romanian manele music's borrowings from Asia for my Master's thesis.)

I wish I knew where it was from, it feels a little bit "european" to me in some bits. Not sure how to specify that!

thnx for correcting me... my fingers where quicker then my brain... as usual

about the niggling sensation - i'm kinda leaning towards indoeuropean origin as well... the persian version sounds like the 'main' composition to me... although the 4 beat is sooo cumbia like even in that one... but from the other side that beat is common all over - that's why there are soo many popular songs being cumbiafied

Hi there. Nice work! To me it is not a big surprise. You find this kind of «stealing» songs allover the world probably. I know it quite well from the pop markets in Turkey, Arab World, Balkans, but also Israel, Iran, Pakistan, Brasil. These pop singers work with teams: a song writer, an arranger, and a lyricist. They pay each seperately. So sometimes the songwriter just sells a song that he had heard in Turkey (for example) before.

The Egyptian pop star Amr Diab even includes a whole subpage of “Stolen Songs” into his website. Have a look: ;-) http://www.amrdiab.ca/arabstolen.html

He traces thirty examples of songs that were copied without his knowledge in countries as diverse as Israel, Lithuania, Russia, Argentina, Brazil, India, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Japan, Turkey and Greece. Many other songs can be traced that are in fact the same - often performed in the same tempo, with the same orchestration, but just with another singer. I once remixed a song in that way for a radio program. Serbien version in right channel, Turkish in left channel. I sounded just great ;-) ..... Thomas from www.norient.com

i thought that it's quite exceptional but i think that it's just a matter of time to bump onto more solid Bolivian/'Oriental' connections

I know that there are at least few peruvian cumbias (the 'psychedelic'/amazonic/surf chicha ones) that draw from 'oriental' themes - i don't have a solid proof at the moment but i can dig for that

plus there is a lot of american surf music that was leeching on 'latino' and 'oriental' themes

the best know surf piece 'misirlou' ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIU0RMV_II8 ) is in fact rebetiko classic - plus also a well know song in arabic, turkish, jewish circles ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPSDH4hdS3Y )

also there is a nice film about the song that has spread through the whole balkans - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4394315735123280123#i also heard moroccan, algerian and spanish versions... so i guess that it covered at least half of the globe - i will not be surprised by (for example) bolivian version

"I once remixed a song in that way for a radio program. Serbien version in right channel, Turkish in left channel."

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