Yes, but only in the minority.This statement, without explaining itself, is wholly useless in an argument.

Things like banning gay marriage or blue laws like requiring belief in a supreme deity in order to run for public office are oppressive, but don't necessarily involve violence.

[quote]Yes, but only in the minority.\r\nThis statement, without explaining itself, is wholly useless in an argument.[/quote]\r\nThings like banning gay marriage or blue laws like requiring belief in a supreme deity in order to run for public office are oppressive, but don't necessarily involve violence.

Things like banning gay marriage or blue laws like requiring belief in a supreme deity in order to run for public office are oppressive, but don't necessarily involve violence.

Gay marriage is banned because we consider is unnatural, the thing that caused fall of sodom.What is wrong with a muslim leader of a muslim state?a non muslim leader might go against Islam.

[quote]Things like banning gay marriage or blue laws like requiring belief in a supreme deity in order to run for public office are oppressive, but don't necessarily involve violence.[/quote]\r\nGay marriage is banned because we consider is unnatural, the thing that caused fall of sodom.\r\nWhat is wrong with a muslim leader of a muslim state?\r\na non muslim leader might go against Islam.

Things like banning gay marriage or blue laws like requiring belief in a supreme deity in order to run for public office are oppressive, but don't necessarily involve violence.

More than half the world does not legalize gay marriage. Are we oppressive, or are we slow in our societal change in the majority?

Germany does not allow Neo Nazi the freedom of their beliefs. Is that oppressive?

[quote]Things like banning gay marriage or blue laws like requiring belief in a supreme deity in order to run for public office are oppressive, but don't necessarily involve violence.[/quote]\r\n\r\nMore than half the world does not legalize gay marriage. Are we oppressive, or are we slow in our societal change in the majority?\r\n\r\nGermany does not allow Neo Nazi the freedom of their beliefs. Is that oppressive?

Are we oppressive, or are we slow in our societal change in the majority?

A bit of both. Compare it to allowing interracial marriage.

Is that oppressive?

Technically, yes. Groups like Westboro and the Tea Party are allowed to openly exist and express their views here.

[quote]Are we oppressive, or are we slow in our societal change in the majority?[/quote]\r\nA bit of both. Compare it to allowing interracial marriage.\r\n\r\n[quote]Is that oppressive?[/quote]\r\nTechnically, yes. Groups like Westboro and the Tea Party are allowed to openly exist and express their views here.

Technically, yes. Groups like Westboro and the Tea Party are allowed to openly exist and express their views here.

An addendum: Express, not enforce. They don't get to make everyone else conform to their views.

Their views are allowed, acting on those who do not believe as they do is not, however. That's the difference.

[quote]Technically, yes. Groups like Westboro and the Tea Party are allowed to openly exist and express their views here.[/quote]\r\n\r\nAn addendum: Express, not enforce. They don't get to make everyone else conform to their views. \r\n\r\nTheir views are allowed, acting on those who do not believe as they do is not, however. That's the difference.

I disagree. If the majority are for it, then democracy triumphs. If not, it makes a mockery of the system. Secondly, if society is going to go through violent upheavals when it isn't ready for change that is pushed unceremoniously through, then it's better not to have change.

Technically, yes. Groups like Westboro and the Tea Party are allowed to openly exist and express their views here.

In that case, then any group spreading violence, terror, and bigotry, should be allowed, if they remain wholly passive?

That's what got the Nazi moving. Point is, society draws the lines where acceptance is extended during that particular era.

[quote]A bit of both. Compare it to allowing interracial marriage.[/quote]\r\n\r\nI disagree. If the majority are for it, then democracy triumphs. If not, it makes a mockery of the system. Secondly, if society is going to go through violent upheavals when it isn't ready for change that is pushed unceremoniously through, then it's better not to have change. \r\n\r\n[quote]Technically, yes. Groups like Westboro and the Tea Party are allowed to openly exist and express their views here.[/quote]\r\n\r\nIn that case, then any group spreading violence, terror, and bigotry, should be allowed, if they remain wholly passive?\r\n\r\nThat's what got the Nazi moving. Point is, society draws the lines where acceptance is extended during that particular era.

In that case, then any group spreading violence, terror, and bigotry, should be allowed, if they remain wholly passive?

Annoying, angry extremists aren't a problem if they don't hurt anyone, even if it is pathetic to listen to. They have their right to say and believe what they want. That right does not extend to enforcing it on others.

[quote]In that case, then any group spreading violence, terror, and bigotry, should be allowed, if they remain wholly passive?[/quote]\r\n\r\nAnnoying, angry extremists aren't a problem if they don't hurt anyone, even if it is pathetic to listen to. They have their right to say and believe what they want. That right does not extend to enforcing it on others.

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