Pcray there are both legacy shallow wells around coudersport and recent ones. There was a great deal of shallow wells drilled around wharton prior to the Marcellus boom. All of the shallow drilling was not well west of there by any means.

Comparing shallow drilling to Marcellus and calling it the same process is like comparing having a catch to pitching to the yankees, same process, but very different game.

New found respect for you. After reading all of the bluster in this thread (most by Pcray), you nailed it in one simple sentence. If I have time, I'll respond with more tomorrow. (Not that anyone cares, LOL). By the way, would love to know how some of these guys find time to spend all day posting here.

I know this is a conservation forum, but why is nobody discussing what he is talking about cutting here? If all of you were asked to take a one year freeze would you be willing to accept it? Not to mention, they are also cutting your health benefits, retirement, increasing you responsibilities, and holding you to unrealistic performance standards. No child left behind, but lets keep screwing over the people that are to help them along the way. Start comparing what other jobs pay to people with masters degrees. Why should education bear the brunt of these tax cuts, while gas companies are not held to the same taxes that so many of the other states require? Many teaching starting salaries are less than $40,000 a year, some are closer to $30,000, but don't tax people who are making millions. How is this country expected to compete with the testing scores of other countries when we do not take education seriously?

trew13 wrote:I know this is a conservation forum, but why is nobody discussing what he is talking about cutting here?

You answered your own question. A political discussion in the terms you suggest would belong in OT Jam Forum. This one is about Marcellus drilling and is appropriate here. If you'd like to discuss the entire budget priority mix, I am sure you'll get plenty of action in an OT thread.

Posted on: 2011/3/10 6:59

_________________The doctrine of free will is the invention of the ruling class.

I guess I kind of knew that. It just looks like he is targeting education in a large way while giving breaks to the gas companies and crying there is no money. It seems like education and educators get dumped on a lot. Just get a little fired up when it hits close to home. Sorry for the rant.

Osprey I agree. On a drilling note...A tax comparable to other states could provide the funding to employ enough people to properly monitor and regulate the drilling. Take a look at englishprof's other thred (This just in...). It appears to me that they are rushing to get in the drilling without having everything in line. What's the saying-haste makes waste.

trew13 wrote:I know this is a conservation forum, but why is nobody discussing what he is talking about cutting here? If all of you were asked to take a one year freeze would you be willing to accept it? Not to mention, they are also cutting your health benefits, retirement, increasing you responsibilities, and holding you to unrealistic performance standards. No child left behind, but lets keep screwing over the people that are to help them along the way. Start comparing what other jobs pay to people with masters degrees. Why should education bear the brunt of these tax cuts, while gas companies are not held to the same taxes that so many of the other states require? Many teaching starting salaries are less than $40,000 a year, some are closer to $30,000, but don't tax people who are making millions. How is this country expected to compete with the testing scores of other countries when we do not take education seriously?

There are plenty of other threads where teachers whine and moan. Use the search function and find one of them.

The last two posts will be deleted if any other posts follow that take the discussion away from the OP topic of Marcellus Shale drilling issues. Be fair to the originator of the thread, gentlemen. If he wanted this in OT, he would have posted it there. As it is, it was moved here because it has relevance on a conservation issue. Please allow it to continue in that vein.

Posted on: 2011/3/10 10:34

_________________The doctrine of free will is the invention of the ruling class.

a friend sent me this, sorry for the short ad at the beginning, and I'm more of a conservative than a liberal, but this is very scary if it's true. please watch the whole interview if you have the time.