Ryan Howard is 1 nasty M/F'er! Grand Slam shot vs. the NY Mets in the 5th down 2-1, now up 5-2. Man, this Phillies team is really special. This team was getting hammered by the media 2 month ago. Watch for this team if we make the wild card. Sorry for the baseball rambling.

Blah Pujols. I forget he plays 1B. Guy has bounced from position to position and if the NL had a DH he would be the Big Papi of the NL. Fair enough, I'll take it back. I mean this yr alone tho stat wise Ryan is there. Albert hits for avg no doubt, but its pretty close considering what each player brings or the kind of hitter they are.

46HR's 112RBI's for Ryan Howard. Tied with Papi for HR and leads ML in RBI's.

Think he has a better slugging % than Albert. Altho it may not be by much so forget it. Ehhhh, Ryan Howard has been an MVP caliber player carrying this team. I wouldnt say he is a better player than Pujols (no diss to Ryan) but just for this season and this season alone (i'm aware of what albert has done) Ryan has had just as good if not a better year.

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they've improved since the Abreu trade, which isn't a coincidence. Abreu is a heartless, gutless player. Other than the 5 game sweep over the Red Sox, he hasn't really helped make that team better

Meanwhile Abreu helps the Yankees.

Abreu just isnt a leader, a fanchise caliber player. He needs to be in a Yankees uniform because they have other stars and he just blends in with his talents, does what he does and thats that. He just wasnt the guy you leaned on. He put up good numbers as a Phillie but they were negated by his attitude and play in OF. Came across as he cared about getting his stats (which he did) so all is well. More to the game than stats. Rowand is the kind of player Phillies fans love. Regardless of his stats he plays the game the way fans

Blah Pujols. I forget he plays 1B. Guy has bounced from position to position and if the NL had a DH he would be the Big Papi of the NL.

Pujols has made some awesome grabs while playing 1B. He is above average there, I think he would play that position even if there was a DH in place for the National League.

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Fair enough, I'll take it back. I mean this yr alone tho stat wise Ryan is there. Albert hits for avg no doubt, but its pretty close considering what each player brings or the kind of hitter they are.

Ryan is there, no doubt. To me, though, I take Pujols over Howard & here is why.

Albert has struck out only 39 times this season, while generating 71 walks. That's almost a walk to strike out ratio of 2/1. Albert puts the ball in play basically every time. Let's take a look at Howards numbers...

He has 67 walks to 148 strikeouts.

Ryan also has a very average .382 OBP

To me, Albert is a better hitter this year. Ryan deserves mention, but he's not better than Pujols this year in my opinion based on those very important stats.

Pujols has made some awesome grabs while playing 1B. He is above average there, I think he would play that position even if there was a DH in place for the National League.

Ryan is there, no doubt. To me, though, I take Pujols over Howard & here is why.

Albert has struck out only 39 times this season, while generating 71 walks. That's almost a walk to strike out ratio of 2/1. Albert puts the ball in play basically every time. Let's take a look at Howards numbers...

He has 67 walks to 148 strikeouts.

Ryan also has a very average .382 OBP

To me, Albert is a better hitter this year. Ryan deserves mention, but he's not better than Pujols this year in my opinion based on those very important stats.

The Phillies also have Hamels and Wife-beater Myers as a very good future (sooner than later) 1-2 punch. They should also have the money to go after a Zito or Schmidt in the offseason now that Abreu is off the books.

Pujols is the best player in the entire league though. Howard is up there and should battle Beltran for 2nd place in the MVP voting but it would be a crime for Pujols not to win that.