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Re: Willie PArker

MSM - you know full well what Ike meant by "when given a chance". When FWP took over for Bettis he was used on the goal line. In '07 that wasn't the case. The Steelers threw an awful lot in the RZ and as a result Ben had 32 TD passes.

Re: Willie PArker

Originally Posted by stlrz d

MSM - you know full well what Ike meant by "when given a chance". When FWP took over for Bettis he was used on the goal line. In '07 that wasn't the case. The Steelers threw an awful lot in the RZ and as a result Ben had 32 TD passes.

I concur. The bottom line is this. It does not matter how they score or who scores, as long as they score who cares? Scoring opportunites in the red zone are usually dictated by the plays the coaches call.

Re: Willie PArker

In many instances, statistics do not reveal the entire story and in most cases cloud judgement to make critical decisions.

Case in point....a good friend of mine goes by the name of Big Greg and presently works for the NFL. He is an avid Steeler Fan.

We both enjoy the drafting of college talent. We both were very disappointed when the Steelers did not make an effort to draft Richard Seymore.

It was well know in most NFL circles that Coach Cowher thought Phillip Rivers was the best QB in the draft. Coach Cowher still wanted to go LB in the first round. The growing thought in the NFL was more emphasis on offensive game planning and talent.

Big Greg thought Rivers was the best QB in the draft also. Old Chem was convinced that Ben Roethlisberger was by far the best QB in the draft. I convinced many people of this, except Coach Marty. My thinking was based not on stats but sheer determination to compete and toughness. Ben Roethlisberger is the most competitive man on this team. Many of the experts thought he could never transition to under center and did not interview well.

They were totally wrong and forgot to talk to the parents who knew Ben and his competitive nature.

My final argument in drafting Big Ben was the fact he was "BIG". No matter what the offensive game plan was going to be he could take a hit and not have happy feet in the pocket. The convincing argument for the Rooneys was "ROI". He was money in the bank.

Re: Willie PArker

Originally Posted by stlrz d

MSM - you know full well what Ike meant by "when given a chance". When FWP took over for Bettis he was used on the goal line. In '07 that wasn't the case. The Steelers threw an awful lot in the RZ and as a result Ben had 32 TD passes.

Their is a difference between goaline and Redzone. I'm sure you know that.
Parker had only 13 less carries in 2007, inside the Redzone. He had over 50 attempts
rushing the ball inside the redzone.

Re: Willie PArker

[quote=Mr Smartmonies]

Originally Posted by "stlrz d":1d04hh8y

MSM - you know full well what Ike meant by "when given a chance". When FWP took over for Bettis he was used on the goal line. In '07 that wasn't the case. The Steelers threw an awful lot in the RZ and as a result Ben had 32 TD passes.

Their is a difference between goaline and Redzone. I'm sure you know that.
Parker had only 13 less carries in 2007, inside the Redzone. He had over 50 attempts
rushing the ball inside the redzone.[/quote:1d04hh8y]

Correct, but when Ben throws a TD from the 15 that takes a goal line opportunity away from Willie, doesn't it?

Re: Willie PArker

[quote=stlrz d][quote="Mr Smartmonies":2eebno5m]

Originally Posted by "stlrz d":2eebno5m

MSM - you know full well what Ike meant by "when given a chance". When FWP took over for Bettis he was used on the goal line. In '07 that wasn't the case. The Steelers threw an awful lot in the RZ and as a result Ben had 32 TD passes.

Their is a difference between goaline and Redzone. I'm sure you know that.
Parker had only 13 less carries in 2007, inside the Redzone. He had over 50 attempts
rushing the ball inside the redzone.[/quote:2eebno5m]

Correct, but when Ben throws a TD from the 15 that takes a goal line opportunity away from Willie, doesn't it? [/quote:2eebno5m]

2007 Parker scored on only 4% of his redzone rushes (45) and only picked up a 1st down 11% of the time in the redzone.

2006 PArker scored on 20% of his redzone carries (56) and picked up a 1st down 29% of the time.

They had to get the guy out of there. Redzone last year.

DAVENPORT

scored on 23% of his redzone carries and picked up a first down 42% of the time behind the same line of scrimmage.