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Comentado por Fabricated

Prot Pallies, here's the itemization love you've been waiting for since the expansion dropped. Now all you have to do is convince someone to let you tank in a raid.

You may have to actually fight prot-warriors for this considering that even with part of its budget spent on spell damage/healing, it's arguably a side-grade/upgrade to the Panzar'Thar Breastplate from Nightbane (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28597).

Props to blizz for catering to specs that...well, get no respect.

Comentado por Jensaarai

This chest is better than T4 for boss tanking, since you'd rather have dodge than shield block rating, depending on the avoidance on the rest of your gear, which, at least for me, at the T4/T5 level my dodge sits around 20% and my parry 17%. T5 chest is obviously for AoE tanking in Hyjal. So this chest fills in the gap between T4 and T6 for a boss tanking chest.

Comentado por krawnight

This is indeed a 75 Badge of Justice item being added in with Patch 2.3. Tankadins are finding a lot of love with this breastplate.

Currently, the two comparable pieces to this would be either the Panzar'Thar Breastplate from Karazhan or the T4 Justicar Chestguard. As has been mentioned numerous times, the T4 set is designed for fast aggro generation/trash tanking, so the real comparison here is between the Panzar and this.

Overall this is an upgrade from the Panzar for a paladin: more stamina, more armor, and a good amount of +spelldamage. The loss of block rating is made up for in the dodge increase, and in terms of threat generation, +spelldamage for a paladin is the same as block value for a warrior. Unfortunately, for mitigation, especially in 25-man raids, a paladin tank still wants to have a healthy amount of +block value, but it seems that the itemization in the new Badge of Justice rewards favors +spelldamage and +spellhit instead. Still, a very nice breastplate when given the trouble many guilds still have with Nightbane.

Comentado por GuuD

Funny thing. Becouse of Stat distribution this is better than t6 for endgame tanking.

Comentado por bodoron

i don't know if this is a stupid question - but isn't this as much a warrior tanking item as a paladin item? i can't seem to find any other plate chests among the new items in 2.3 (at least not for tanking). This would be a huge upgrade to what i'm wearing now due to the stamina, dodge and defense.

So am i right to assume that Bliz made this for both warriors and paladins ?

Comentado por Avengedsoul

StoicA member of a school of philosophy founded by Zeno of Citium about 300 b.c. holding that the wise man should be free from passion, unmoved by joy or grief, and submissive to natural law

So now you know how to act as a Stoic Guardian :-)

Comentado por Arideni

If you're doing enough heroics to get this item & don't mind paying the badges for it, then as far as socketing goes you may as well stick with the good ol' Solid Stars of Elune and get an extra 6 over the other combinations I see...

There's a minor exception (or two?) but overall, if you're a paladin using this you need the Stamina and if you're a warrior, well...you need the stamina.

Thank you for the statistics on the gem combinations, good quick-to-read info!

Comentado por Arideni

Casual / Non-raiding Perspective, for Warriors

Jade Skull Breastplate is a great breastplate from Mechanar. This is a normal stepping stone for players into Karazhan, however there aren't many good alternatives. Comparing Jade Skull Breastplate to this casually obtainable Badge reward, it seems overwhelming at first. Let's look at what you gain by using Stoic Guardian with 3x Solid Star of Elune:

+443 Armor

+460 Health

-2 Defense Rating

+2.01% Dodge

You can make your own decision whether or not you feel this item is worthy of your time, but as a casual or non-raiding player, this item has the potential to beat out a lot of other items, particularly blue items, regardless of it's drawbacks or lousy bonus(es). I don't believe in relying on avoidance, but I do believe this particular item is sort of special.

Note: I did not include bonus(es) or stats that are totally neglected by warriors, i.e. +35 damage/healing on this armor. Under normal circumstances this would indicate wasted item budget, however I do not think it is a big deal for this one item at this time.

The dodge bonus appears to be there to suit both paladins and warriors; semi-lackluster. The bonus to spell effects is obviously a waste for warriors, but it doesn't appear to endanger this item on the list of good gear. Time will tell.Note: I haven't played since 2.1-ish.

Comentado por Drovor

Completely agree with Arideni. As a protection warrior who hasn't been able to get Panzar'Thar Breastplate and isn't killing Zul'jin this is on my badge shopping list.

Comentado por isoar

Completely agree with Arideni. As a protection warrior who hasn't been able to get Panzar'Thar Breastplate and isn't killing Zul'jin this is on my badge shopping list.

Even as a Paladin that has Panzar'Thar, though this chest may not be the biggest upgrade, it certainly is the least painful if you are already in Kara gear that is heavy in block rating and you are just over the uncrushable mark.

So if you are at (102.4 + 1.30696) = 103.70696% or higher, you can easilly add this chest in without any thought.

The losss of 39 block value can be weighed against the gains of converting useless excess block rating to dodge rating, a small stamina gain (+9), and gaining threat from spell damage (typically about 10% more spell damage).

Keep Panzar'Thar on-hand for your block value set though!

Comentado por jon3k

*Easily* the best pre-kara chest in the game for prot paladins and warriors.

Comentado por Saeverud

With the addition of the new 2.4 badge gear and the Chestplate of Stoicism, this chest piece lost some it's luster, Warriors who invested in it will likely go for the new one, but for Paladins this is still the premier Main Tanking piece until the T6 piece.

The spell damage and dodge rating alone makes it worthwhile, as most things pre-kara only offer block rating rather than dodge. And the spell damage adds to the much needed threat generation for a Paladin. Combing this with the new 2.4 Paladin pants and boots, a few stamina gems, along with 2.3 warrior belt and cloak and it's easy to keep your uncrushability and Uncrittability while keeping you spell damage well over 450.

Comentado por collector

There's an 'unofficial' DPS and Tank set in Zul'Aman you can collect if you are looking for matching armor. Sadly it is not a tier set, but cosmetically these pieces go together.