Herve has done very well for himself by getting a better deal than he had from Yamaha.
But he is hardly outplaying anyone when Yamaha officially stated that VR46 will get priority over him.

What he did was make lemonade when life threw him a lemon. And that’s pretty awesome in its own right.

And KTM turned water into wine. They just took Yamahas long standing satelight team right out from under their noses. Probably the no 1 satelight team in the paddock, with Zarco as the rider. Obviously Hervé has anticipated what they had planned for some time. namely the team VR takeover, most likely with VR riding and raising the profile of his own team in his final year enabling Zarco to step up to the factory team. Now what do Yamaha have? No satelight, no upcoming rider development potential, no Lorenzo, no W/C, just a 41 yo Rossi. Oh and lots of tshirt sales. Gotta hand it to that mastermind Jarvis.

You mean, kinda like how Honda was a decade ago?
Everything is cyclical in racing. What goes up must come down and then back up again.

I like how close the racing is getting. Try to enjoy that instead of being all snivelly and personal about these things.

You'll find here that what you give is what you get. The old-timers here are really good at debating without nastiness. Try not to be so high handed and stop insulting people and most here will do the same. You came on this forum, snarkey guns blazing, every post dripping with sarcasm and brought all the acrimony on yourself. You are pretty knowledgeable and clearly are capable of debating competently without all the ad hominem crap. Ignore the trolls and enjoy the forum. eace:" class="inlineimg" /> Hmm... sumpthin' wrong with the emoticons. Maybe Barry broke 'em.

And KTM turned water into wine. They just took Yamahas long standing satelight team right out from under their noses. Probably the no 1 satelight team in the paddock, with Zarco as the rider. Obviously Hervé has anticipated what they had planned for some time. namely the team VR takeover, most likely with VR riding and raising the profile of his own team in his final year enabling Zarco to step up to the factory team. Now what do Yamaha have? No satelight, no upcoming rider development potential, no Lorenzo, no W/C, just a 41 yo Rossi. Oh and lots of tshirt sales. Gotta hand it to that mastermind Jarvis.

like I said,those t-shirts have a ton of Mark up.On a more serious note, Rossi has become nothing but a detrement to the Yamaha race team but they have no one to blame but themselves. They were complicit in letting Rossi turn the work environment turn so toxic that their best rider left.Then they allowed Rossi to orchestrate the tire change that may very well of cost Vinales and Yamaha a title.Now they are blindly following him down the development path when they should be 100% focusing on what makes Vinales faster.

So who wants to place a bet that both flossi & jarvis see the exit at the end of 2018? Board meeting in Japan yamaka corp HQ working on damage control.... Reason why the ktm tech 3 news got pullled???? Motogp sky 46 aprilia only mfg that would touch him....

So who wants to place a bet that both flossi & jarvis see the exit at the end of 2018? Board meeting in Japan yamaka corp HQ working on damage control.... Reason why the ktm tech 3 news got pullled???? Motogp sky 46 aprilia only mfg that would touch him....

I agree. I think Rossi will announce retirement in first 1/4 of the season, and soon after announce the entry of the VR46 MotoGP team as participants in 2019 season.

like I said,those t-shirts have a ton of Mark up.On a more serious note, Rossi has become nothing but a detrement to the Yamaha race team but they have no one to blame but themselves. They were complicit in letting Rossi turn the work environment turn so toxic that their best rider left.Then they allowed Rossi to orchestrate the tire change that may very well of cost Vinales and Yamaha a title.Now they are blindly following him down the development path when they should be 100% focusing on what makes Vinales faster.

How quickly one forgets what a "toxic" environment, Lorenzo brings to a team.
As a prodigious reader of fiction, I do enjoy the creative reasons you guys make up about why people leave teams.
They kind of remind me of those, Choose your own adventure books I read as a kid.

So who wants to place a bet that both flossi & jarvis see the exit at the end of 2018? Board meeting in Japan yamaka corp HQ working on damage control.... Reason why the ktm tech 3 news got pullled???? Motogp sky 46 aprilia only mfg that would touch him....