Lions absolutely need a CB more than another position. Good WRs and LBs can be had in rounds 2-4, but really good corners are usually taken in the first round.

Roster moves will run a distant second to what the Lions do with the coaching staff.

Welcome to the club. I have been saying the bolded part for more than 10 years. Get ready for people to tell you your all wet.

December 29th, 2013, 10:59 pm

njroar

Player of the Year - Offense

Joined: September 25th, 2007, 3:20 amPosts: 2841

Re: Early Prospect want list.

No one's going to tell him he's all wet, it's been a matter of WHERE we drafted the last few seasons that have dictated that corners were bad choices. People wanted Prince, and we took Fairley. People wanted Miliner and we took Ziggy.

10 is a good spot to pick a corner. Not too late that decent ones are gone, not too early where other positions justify the pay. But I'll wait to see how the Black Monday shakes out before we know what to expect.

December 30th, 2013, 12:06 am

m2karateman

RIP Killer

Joined: October 20th, 2004, 4:16 pmPosts: 10066Location: Where ever I'm at now

Re: Early Prospect want list.

BillySims wrote:

m2karateman wrote:

Lions absolutely need a CB more than another position. Good WRs and LBs can be had in rounds 2-4, but really good corners are usually taken in the first round.

Roster moves will run a distant second to what the Lions do with the coaching staff.

Welcome to the club. I have been saying the bolded part for more than 10 years. Get ready for people to tell you your all wet.

Billy, you need to go back and look at some of my posts. I've been petitioning for the Lions to get a corner in the first round of the draft for quite some time. However, the problem has usually been that they had other glaring needs, or the prospects at corner weren't good enough to warrant them picking with where their pick was.

In my eyes, there are only three positions the Lions should consider in the first round: CB, LB or WR. As I said in a previous post, good linebackers and second receivers are routinely found in later rounds. However, that is not the case with cornerbacks. Most really good corners come out of the first round. But the Lions have to make sure they steer away from the 'smurf' corners. They need to identify a big, physical corner who can start jamming receivers.

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December 30th, 2013, 11:05 am

liontrax

3rd Round Selection

Joined: March 21st, 2005, 2:11 pmPosts: 1144Location: Wolverine, Mi.

Re: Early Prospect want list.

m2karateman wrote:

BillySims wrote:

m2karateman wrote:

Lions absolutely need a CB more than another position. Good WRs and LBs can be had in rounds 2-4, but really good corners are usually taken in the first round.

Roster moves will run a distant second to what the Lions do with the coaching staff.

Welcome to the club. I have been saying the bolded part for more than 10 years. Get ready for people to tell you your all wet.

Billy, you need to go back and look at some of my posts. I've been petitioning for the Lions to get a corner in the first round of the draft for quite some time. However, the problem has usually been that they had other glaring needs, or the prospects at corner weren't good enough to warrant them picking with where their pick was.

In my eyes, there are only three positions the Lions should consider in the first round: CB, LB or WR. As I said in a previous post, good linebackers and second receivers are routinely found in later rounds. However, that is not the case with cornerbacks. Most really good corners come out of the first round. But the Lions have to make sure they steer away from the 'smurf' corners. They need to identify a big, physical corner who can start jamming receivers.

Mostly agree, but I would add OT to your list. I'm not convinced we're set at tackle. So if the top tackle falls, BPA might come into play. I realize it's not the greatest need.

DE not a possibility? Taylor has looked better than expected, and Jones will be back from injury (and looked decent), but another stud DE would be very valuable IMO. I'd prefer a WR or CB, but if the BPA at 10 is a DE, I'm happy for us to take him.

M2K is so on the nose with saying that roster moves take distant second to who they get as a new HC. It's pretty hard to say what the Lions will need without knowing the schemes they will be using and the fact that many new HCs will try to bring in guys from their old teams. If they decide to turn to a 3-4 LB could become their number one need or if a more play action run game is used they may feel OL is the bigger need.

IMO we get a coach who can work with the pieces we have. Especially with Mayhew being the man conducting the coaching search.

They were already trying some 3-4 before the season with Schwartz and Gunny. Most of their talent is on their Dline and offense, so I really don't see this team having much of a problem making major scheme changes. The Dline is full of guys that could fit almost anywhere on a line and the offense really could go any direction with the Bush/Bell combo plus Stafford/CJ.

December 30th, 2013, 2:49 pm

Pablo

RIP Killer

Joined: August 6th, 2004, 9:21 amPosts: 9596Location: Dallas

Re: Early Prospect want list.

Somebody asked Stafford who the next Lions head coach should be but his answer was picked off before I could hear it.

CB: Dennard, Justin Gilbert, Loucheiz Purifoy. I think we need 2 new CBsWR: Sammy Watkins(Everything you want in a WR and his RAC is a serious issue for defenses), Kelvin Benjamin, Marquise Lee, Mike Evans, Allen Robinson. It really shouldn't be hard to find a good WR. No one should ever need to trot out someone like Kris Durham.

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December 30th, 2013, 7:37 pm

m2karateman

RIP Killer

Joined: October 20th, 2004, 4:16 pmPosts: 10066Location: Where ever I'm at now

Re: Early Prospect want list.

liontrax wrote:

Mostly agree, but I would add OT to your list. I'm not convinced we're set at tackle. So if the top tackle falls, BPA might come into play. I realize it's not the greatest need.

The Lions don't have a need for a starting offensive tackle, so there is no need to draft one in round one. I was speaking specifically about the first round.

However, were I in charge of the Lions draft room, offensive tackle would only be drafted if a player at that position fell for some ridiculous reason. Reiff and Waddle are good starters. Stafford was among the least sacked QBs this season. Our running game was pretty decent with them, and the addition of Warford at right guard with Sims at left really helped. Our biggest need on the line is going to be at center. I am not sure Rodney Austin is that guy or not. I know Dylan Gandy isn't that guy to replace Raiola. And the Lions shouldn't continue forward thinking Raiola can put together another season like this past one. He played well, but he's still not the ideal guy from a physical perspective.

Our biggest need on offense is a second receiver and someone to pull Matt's head out of his butt. Other than that, we are in pretty solid shape.

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December 30th, 2013, 10:14 pm

liontrax

3rd Round Selection

Joined: March 21st, 2005, 2:11 pmPosts: 1144Location: Wolverine, Mi.

Re: Early Prospect want list.

m2karateman wrote:

liontrax wrote:

Mostly agree, but I would add OT to your list. I'm not convinced we're set at tackle. So if the top tackle falls, BPA might come into play. I realize it's not the greatest need.

The Lions don't have a need for a starting offensive tackle, so there is no need to draft one in round one. I was speaking specifically about the first round.

However, were I in charge of the Lions draft room, offensive tackle would only be drafted if a player at that position fell for some ridiculous reason. Reiff and Waddle are good starters. Stafford was among the least sacked QBs this season. Our running game was pretty decent with them, and the addition of Warford at right guard with Sims at left really helped. Our biggest need on the line is going to be at center. I am not sure Rodney Austin is that guy or not. I know Dylan Gandy isn't that guy to replace Raiola. And the Lions shouldn't continue forward thinking Raiola can put together another season like this past one. He played well, but he's still not the ideal guy from a physical perspective.

Our biggest need on offense is a second receiver and someone to pull Matt's head out of his butt. Other than that, we are in pretty solid shape.

Again, agree. Waddle was a fortunate find and performed well when pressed into service. I believe our greatest need for round 1 would be CB or WR. Will one worthy of the 10th pick be there? Just saying that in what appears to be a Tackle rich draft, if the top one falls do you ignore it? Mayhew always professes to go BPA. But maybe at this point in the rebuild of the talent base they can start addressing need as opposed to BPA. Would also like to see the Lions draft a TE relatively high (first 4 rounds) and let Pettigrew walk.