Pelosi made it clear that her distance from the bill, which Sanders expects to unveil with top progressives this week, creating something of a litmus test for Democrats, had little to do with its contents. Rather she is working on more incremental gains to preserve and expand coverage for as many Americans as possible, despite Republican opposition to Obamacare, she said.

"Right now, I’m protecting the Affordable Care Act," Pelosi told a small group of reporters at a meeting Tuesday in her Capitol Hill office. "None of these other things, whether it’s Bernie’s [bill], can really prevail unless we have the Affordable Care Act protected."

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"I’ve been carrying single-payer signs as party chair of California," she said, referring to her tenure decades ago as state party leader. "I’m a progressive from San Francisco. Proud liberal. I have my own kind of credibility on these subjects."

While holdouts like Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) prefer "marketplace" choices, a full quarter of caucus now backing single-payer bill.

A quarter of Democratic Caucus members in the U.S. Senate have now signed on as co-sponsors of Sen. Bernie Sanders' (I-Vt.) Medicare for All bill, which he plans to introduce Wednesday, signaling a shift among party lawmakers, who may be swayed by recent polling that has indicated a majority of Americans and more than two-thirds of Democrats favor a single-payer national healthcare system.

@Ellen North
credibility" don't ya know. Just believe what she says, never mind what she does. Very telling remark on her part there. Shows she's not quite bright enough to get that double entendre. No shock there.

They will either let it happen and slough their $2T/Year in institutional dumb money into something else or they will co-opt it and create the National Medicare Company, but either way it will be "single payer" in the future -- single payer that benefits the Big Suits.

Lots of garbled words and a image that I couldn't tell what it even meant.
Then he posted another image that represented MFA and was Bernie's bill. Then he totally crapped all over Bernie's legislation and told everyone that he is a proud incrementalist.
I'm sure you can imagine how the comments went.
One person wrote that she was fine with incrementalism and thought that it should take 20-30 years for everyone to be covered by MFA.
Those people don't care that many people can't even use their insurance because of how high their premiums and deductibles are.
Instead of saving $2,500 a year like Obama told us, their premiums went up over $4,000 a year. No wonder Pelosi wants to protect the ACA. The insurance companies are getting $300 billion. What's not to like?
I'm not surprised about this.

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The Democrats are beyond morally bankrupt. The Party’s very soul has been replaced with pure ratfuckery.

@snoopydawg
is to collect money for letting K St.
lobbyists write bills that benefit corporations.

Everything else is Kabuki Theater.

For if we had universal healthcare imagine how
much money would be freed up for ordinary amerikans
to spend on everyday items, CEO's of every other
industry should be crying bloody murder over HC ins.
it only robs from everything else.

Lots of garbled words and a image that I couldn't tell what it even meant.
Then he posted another image that represented MFA and was Bernie's bill. Then he totally crapped all over Bernie's legislation and told everyone that he is a proud incrementalist.
I'm sure you can imagine how the comments went.
One person wrote that she was fine with incrementalism and thought that it should take 20-30 years for everyone to be covered by MFA.
Those people don't care that many people can't even use their insurance because of how high their premiums and deductibles are.
Instead of saving $2,500 a year like Obama told us, their premiums went up over $4,000 a year. No wonder Pelosi wants to protect the ACA. The insurance companies are getting $300 billion. What's not to like?
I'm not surprised about this.

at least in my stupid state. This is why I dreaded moving back here.
They worship the military, the cops, are okay with corporate welfare because they create jobs and think that many republicans are republicans in name only.
And that Trump is doing a great job.
Sigh

#3 is to collect money for letting K St.
lobbyists write bills that benefit corporations.

Everything else is Kabuki Theater.

For if we had universal healthcare imagine how
much money would be freed up for ordinary amerikans
to spend on everyday items, CEO's of every other
industry should be crying bloody murder over HC ins.
it only robs from everything else.

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The Democrats are beyond morally bankrupt. The Party’s very soul has been replaced with pure ratfuckery.

Imagine if continuing facets of the government of Nazi Germany were only finally removed by 1980.

Lots of garbled words and a image that I couldn't tell what it even meant.
Then he posted another image that represented MFA and was Bernie's bill. Then he totally crapped all over Bernie's legislation and told everyone that he is a proud incrementalist.
I'm sure you can imagine how the comments went.
One person wrote that she was fine with incrementalism and thought that it should take 20-30 years for everyone to be covered by MFA.
Those people don't care that many people can't even use their insurance because of how high their premiums and deductibles are.
Instead of saving $2,500 a year like Obama told us, their premiums went up over $4,000 a year. No wonder Pelosi wants to protect the ACA. The insurance companies are getting $300 billion. What's not to like?
I'm not surprised about this.

@snoopydawg
he wrapped it too tightly and the necessary bloodflow couldn't get through.

Man, can you please get a real democratic socialist party.

Lots of garbled words and a image that I couldn't tell what it even meant.
Then he posted another image that represented MFA and was Bernie's bill. Then he totally crapped all over Bernie's legislation and told everyone that he is a proud incrementalist.
I'm sure you can imagine how the comments went.
One person wrote that she was fine with incrementalism and thought that it should take 20-30 years for everyone to be covered by MFA.
Those people don't care that many people can't even use their insurance because of how high their premiums and deductibles are.
Instead of saving $2,500 a year like Obama told us, their premiums went up over $4,000 a year. No wonder Pelosi wants to protect the ACA. The insurance companies are getting $300 billion. What's not to like?
I'm not surprised about this.

unlike Liz and Kamala out pandering to the progressives. Nancy is an honest politician damn it, she tells it just like it is! s/ I have about the same admiration for her I do for the Klan - at least they're honest about their ugliness, unlike the rest of the lying shills.

Edit to add: Now I certainly have no real "admiration" for the Klan, don't take that wrong. And maybe their hoods don't really make them all that honest, but they won't lie and truly deny what they are either. And our Democrats certainly cannot say they do anything close to not denying who THEY are. They smile while inserting the knife where at least the Klansmen might be smiling but he'd also be telling you the truth about just who he is.

unlike Liz and Kamala out pandering to the progressives. Nancy is an honest politician damn it, she tells it just like it is! s/ I have about the same admiration for her I do for the Klan - at least they're honest about their ugliness, unlike the rest of the lying shills.

Edit to add: Now I certainly have no real "admiration" for the Klan, don't take that wrong. And maybe their hoods don't really make them all that honest, but they won't lie and truly deny what they are either. And our Democrats certainly cannot say they do anything close to not denying who THEY are. They smile while inserting the knife where at least the Klansmen might be smiling but he'd also be telling you the truth about just who he is.

More than I can say for Schumer, who claims that single-payer is 'one of the options on the table.'

Yeah, suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure!

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“I believe in the redemptive powers of a dog’s love. It is in recognition of each dog’s potential to lift the human spirit, and therefore, to change society for the better, that I fight to make sure every street dog has its day.”--Stasha Wong, Secretary, Save Our Street Dogs (SOSD)

unlike Liz and Kamala out pandering to the progressives. Nancy is an honest politician damn it, she tells it just like it is! s/ I have about the same admiration for her I do for the Klan - at least they're honest about their ugliness, unlike the rest of the lying shills.

Edit to add: Now I certainly have no real "admiration" for the Klan, don't take that wrong. And maybe their hoods don't really make them all that honest, but they won't lie and truly deny what they are either. And our Democrats certainly cannot say they do anything close to not denying who THEY are. They smile while inserting the knife where at least the Klansmen might be smiling but he'd also be telling you the truth about just who he is.

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--George Bernard Shaw, Irish Dramatist & Socialist
"We [corporations] are the government!" Actor John Colicos (1978)

@Lily O Lady
They're out of touch with regular Americans and the genuine problems that people face. They think they get it, but they are actually clueless, and as such are a waste of legislative space.

That's why government's supposed to be of, by and for the people, acting to represent them and their interests. So that they actually know what, when and how things need to be done and are concerned about doing a good job for their people and country.

#6.1.1 They're out of touch with regular Americans and the genuine problems that people face. They think they get it, but they are actually clueless, and as such are a waste of legislative space.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

@dervish
Republicans, ah yes, my peeps, who are really inordinately proud of their stupidity, many of them. My whole family, but the truly dumb part that's driven me crazy most of my life? These asshole's ain't even rich! I once asked my mother if she thought she was one of them, the rich ones she so seems to identify with. Of course she had no answer, she knew good and well she wasn't in their league. Their hypocrisy comes out later when they're not only more than willing to take their own SS and Medicare, but they tell YOU that you'll just need to accept cuts when your time comes. That is my personal hot button with Repukes of all stripes but especially my own damned family. I love the weather in Cally and still miss it sometimes, but I could never live there again, not So Cal anyway.

#6.1.1 They're out of touch with regular Americans and the genuine problems that people face. They think they get it, but they are actually clueless, and as such are a waste of legislative space.

She is a dinosaur, time for her to go, and you know the whole protect the ACA over Single Payer is because of the bribes they get from the Big Insurance and big Pharma.

unlike Liz and Kamala out pandering to the progressives. Nancy is an honest politician damn it, she tells it just like it is! s/ I have about the same admiration for her I do for the Klan - at least they're honest about their ugliness, unlike the rest of the lying shills.

Edit to add: Now I certainly have no real "admiration" for the Klan, don't take that wrong. And maybe their hoods don't really make them all that honest, but they won't lie and truly deny what they are either. And our Democrats certainly cannot say they do anything close to not denying who THEY are. They smile while inserting the knife where at least the Klansmen might be smiling but he'd also be telling you the truth about just who he is.

for the same reason they can't stand HRC. She's so cocooned by lobbyists, jr. wonks, hangers on and yes people, and so unused to walking among the "working class" she can't relate to anyone not in her very exclusive club. She's obviously intelligent, like HRC, and also clueless, like HRC, on whats devouring American.

For myself personally I've abandoned the "stupid" defense for these people a long time ago. I think they know exactly what they are doing. That makes the proper word for them something more like "evil" or "monstrous" rather than just "clueless".

for the same reason they can't stand HRC. She's so cocooned by lobbyists, jr. wonks, hangers on and yes people, and so unused to walking among the "working class" she can't relate to anyone not in her very exclusive club. She's obviously intelligent, like HRC, and also clueless, like HRC, on whats devouring American.

They are very upset that he hasn't told his supporters to stop criticizing members of the DP.
And they don't want them to criticize Harris who is an upcoming presidential candidate.
They say that they were very generous to let him run on the democratic platform.
Grap some wine and cheese before you read this.Bernie backers' attacks on Democrats infuriate the party

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The Democrats are beyond morally bankrupt. The Party’s very soul has been replaced with pure ratfuckery.

Hillary abused us and told us we want impossible things. She told us she didn't need us and we had the gall to believe her.

They are very upset that he hasn't told his supporters to stop criticizing members of the DP.
And they don't want them to criticize Harris who is an upcoming presidential candidate.
They say that they were very generous to let him run on the democratic platform.
Grap some wine and cheese before you read this.Bernie backers' attacks on Democrats infuriate the party

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"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

And they can't even understand how revealing it is that they refer to 'Bernie's backers' and Bernie's fans' because the notion of actually representing the people is so alien to them.

As they consistently demonstrate, they believe that the public is supposed to shut up, do as they're told and come to heel, because they are their masters, not public servants.

America needs a regime change. Now.

They are very upset that he hasn't told his supporters to stop criticizing members of the DP.
And they don't want them to criticize Harris who is an upcoming presidential candidate.
They say that they were very generous to let him run on the democratic platform.
Grap some wine and cheese before you read this.Bernie backers' attacks on Democrats infuriate the party

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Neither of Washington State's Senators, Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell, is supporting Bernie's bill. They're both Big Pharma types, especially Murray, to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars received in donations.

As far as I know, Murray and Cantwell haven't made any public statements about single payer. However, people who have contacted Murray to ask that she sign on to Bernie's bill are being told "I'm not supporting it because I want more choices in the marketplace".

That's almost word-for-word what Tim Kaine said. It's the standard neoliberal line. Everything is always and only about "the marketplace", not about serving the American people.

Most people I know want health care when they need it. Not "more choices in the insurance marketplace".

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That belated rush of co-signers makes me wonder if they finally realize that Bernie has been and is showing Americans by contrast that both wings of the Corporate Vampire Party invariably prove by their attitudes and actions that they're useless and destructive abusers sucking them dry and need to be fired out of the political canon, so to speak... people are more and more waking up to this, thanks to Bernie.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.