The problem is that Intels standard processors can not understand 8Gb chips, although they are part of the DDR3 specification standard. Thus 16GB modules do not work on Intels, but they do work on othersReply

I know some folks with 4x8GB dimms in their notebook, that hope to upgrade that to 4x16GB some day. Some manufacturers such as clevo have gone so far to say that 64GB is officially supported. According to this article this isn't the case, and 64GB will never work on current mobile platforms.Reply

Pretty sure I'm going to get slammed for missing something, but this also means no possibility of 32GB on an intel MiniITX setup, correct? Been wanting to go smaller than MicroATX, but 2 DIMM slots is too limiting currently.Reply

Why would anyone ever need more than 16 gb of ram in a piny ITX system? And note that I say "NEED" not want, because the only limit to what one might want is his or her stupidity. I am a power user, I run a few workstations and a rendering farm and I can assure you even if you plan to make a gaming or workstation PC in ITX format, 16 gb is more than that system will need in its life span.Reply

While this is true (and awesome), even a powerful machine is hard pressed to benefit much from more than 16GB of RAM. That's not to say that I don't have a file server running 24GB of RAM sitting here in my apartment (using consumer hardware rather than server), but it's most assuredly not mini-ITX (with 15xHDD and 3xSSDs, I can't lift the damned thing).Reply

Mind telling me what kind of an application you put that board into so that you NEED 32 gigs of ram? Or maybe just moar ram makes you feel moar like a man? If anyone speaks nonsense here, then it is you. The ONLY scenario where an ITX system will make any use of more than 16 gigs of ram is server, and there you already have ITX boards with 4 slots supporting up to 64 gigs of ecc ram.Reply

Yes, because the world is full of gamers who run multiple virtual machines and ramdrives on living room media boxes... Take your own advice and apply it to yourself. If you need loads of ram, ITX is generally not the place to look, but even if you do need ITX, there are already boards which support up to 64 gigs of ram, plus all the enterprise features you will likely need in such a scenario that are not found on consumer ITX boards.Reply

Is there any particular reason you need the PC in the same room? I keep desktops/workstations/servers in a dedicated room - no noise no heat no clutter.

BTW - huge machines are not necessarily noisy. Non-ITX machines are not necessarily huge. The rest is just drivel by people "amazed" by the possibility of putting an unnecessarily amount of memory in a machine constrained by its footprint., 99.99% of which will never really do it.

When will kids learn that having lots of ram in your computer doesn't make you cooler, especially when you really have no use of it?Reply

As the owner of an mITX machine (well, OK, a shuttle XPC that's got a larger-than-mITX motherboard but is still smaller than many mITX cases like the Prodigy), the thing is bloody loud under load. Why? Because tiny PCs tend to have smaller fans, and smaller fans need to spin much faster (and louder) to provide enough airflow.

The fan in mine is a 92mm fan that acts as both the CPU fan and casefan, and it spins at 3850 RPM at full speed. That is *NOT* quiet. Sadly, I tried a Noctua 92mm fan, and it utterly failed to adequately cool the system.Reply

macminicolo.net, macminivault.com….etc etc, which colocate thousands of mac minis alone. I could go on and on. The vast majority of people who colo their Mac Mini's are *eager* for 32GB of RAM. Unfortunately due to the Intel JEDEC bug, that will now never happen, or at least not until Broadwell based Mac Minis come out.

I've seen you cry about this on other forums. Just because you don't have a need or are incapable of understanding others needs doesn't mean there *isn't* a need!Reply

ddriver, let me give a simple example. Mac Mini quad-core w/ 32GB of RAM and ESXi installed making 4 VM's, each with a hyper threaded core and 8GB of RAM. Great little virtualized and isolated server environments. There are *tons* more potential applications, IF these things had the memory capacity.Reply

+1Windows 8/8.1 Pro also have Hyper-V (what I use for a lab environment) and having 16GB of consumer memory per dimm is perfect for that. It also allows the rest of your PC to be cheaper when you don't need all the bells and whistles of server class hardware. I bought a mobo with 4 dimms / 64GB max ram for this purpose, and it was nice and cheap!Reply

It is indeed disappointing, that Intel does not support 16 GB unregistered DDR3 modules with the current CPUs. Maybe it will with Broadwell, but I think it definitely will for future DDR4 platforms.

But just the single $320-350 16 GB module costs like twice the price of an AMD processor. And with only one module that's single channel RAM, so you need two of these modules to run in dual channel, making the RAM price 4 times the CPU price. IMHO, it's not worth it pricewise.Reply

I don't do it for a purpose, I am just chilling in between work hours. :)

And at any rate, KAVERI with 32 gigs of ram? I'd understand if it was at least some high performance CPU, but this utter joke, 32 gigs for kaveri is like buying a mansion for your dog to live in, when all it needs is a dog house.Reply

It seems like you never heard of longly promised AMDs HSA. So at any rate these *superb APUs* could always find some use even with 128GBs of installed ram.I thou wondering how you never mention insanely high latency times could actually damage high end performance. And they probably become even worse when you install more than just single module per channel.Reply

A few people here are implying that Intel screwed up by not implementing support for the larger DIMMs, even though it is in the JEDEC spec. It very well may be intentional, as to not cannibalize their low end Xeon sales (E3 series).Reply

The article indicates that the problem occurs on all Intel processors using DDR-3 except for the Atom models (which presumably use a different memory controller).

The maximum memory sizes specified for various Intel processors seem to assume DDR-3 DIMMs no larger than 8GB. LGA1155 and LGA1150 models (including the E3 series) are specified as supporting a maximum memory of 32GB (2 channels times 2 DIMMs/per channel times 8GB per DIMM). Similarly, LGA2111 chips are specified as supporting a maximum memory of 64GB (4 channels instead of 2). So it would seem that the lack of support for 16GB DIMMs is at least partially intentional.Reply

HP Microserver Gen8 uses Intel CPU....won't work. But I recommend to write an email to HP telling them about these modules and asking if they would support in the future.I think HP has the power to make Intel move!Reply

I am eagerly looking forward to buying 4 16GB ECC UDIMM's for my basement VMWare ESXi server, but I can't find these anywhere, and the distributors aren't responding to my emails (presumably because I am a small volume individual buyer)