Well, I don't intend to make a federal case about it -- with everyone I've talked to before, my take on jeff has been universal. But if others have had different experiences, maybe he's not always so bad.

Posted by bagchucker on 5/3/2013 9:12:00 PM (view original):besides, he enters as many leagues as he leaves

and we need guys willing to join leagues

as we well know

though leaving leagues is just as much the problem as joining is the solution.

I don't mind that jeff joins or leaves leagues - but its that when he leaves leagues, it's USUALLY because his team is complete crap. And so then the next owner has to spend the next 3-5 years trying to make it competitive.

but would agree that he doesn't really belong in this thread. if the thread were called, "progressive owners that seem to hate the league rules and every owner in it, but still signs up for it ..." then that'd be a different story :)

Amen, crazystengel. papabilly is the only owner I've ever kicked out of a progressive, and I will never again let him into one of my leagues, or join a league in which he is a part. Commissioners beware!

By the way, papabilly's latest tantrum was in no way unforeseeable. He had the first overall pick in this draft. We were off the clock. He posted "What can I get for the #1 pick." A couple of days went by, and two owners posted asking (nicely) how much longer papabilly was going to be. At that point I sent this sitemail to another owner in the league (I didn't correctly predict the exact excuse -- just that papabilly would quit over something stupid):

From:

crazystengel

To:

XXXX

Received:

8/17/2013 6:20:00 PM

Subject:

side bet on the Jimmy Carter draft?

Message:

You want to bet a draft pick on how long it takes papabilly to quit the league over being asked how long he's going to take with his first pick?

I didn't say there's anything wrong with trying to trade a pick. I merely predicted that you would quit the league over being asked how much longer you would be. I was wrong on the excuse, but right on you quitting over nothing.

Since you're in here and posting anyway, why don't you give your side of the story, papabilly? Why did you quit the Jimmy Carter prog at the very end of the draft?

For what it's worth, we've had no problem with papabilly in the Hangover League for the last year since he joined us with an expansion franchise.

I did see Husker75 mentioned earlier, he pulled a disappearing act on us. I had to send him a sitemail basically asking him if he was quitting.
Kneeneighbor joined us just after papabilly as an expansion owner and disappeared after just two seasons, hiding from dozens of sitemails.