. actually, they had a negotiation to change. they went from, there was anoldgmandanewgm, sothey went through kind of a managed bankruptcy after all the bailout work was done. >> then ford did it all on their own. >> wait, this is not true. that is not true. ford had the timing on their side. they went and renegotiated their debt before the 2008 crisis hit. they happened to have an advantage of going to wall street to renegotiate their borrowing authority and it was the calendar. >> the ceo of ford said about mitt romney's prescription. he said if gm and chrysler had gone into a free fall bankruptcy, they would have taken the entire supply chain and auto agency with it. he said that in 2010. so that's really what -- >> speculation is not accurate. >> it is because there was no way that private capital were going to keep those companies alive into a chapter 11 reorganization. they would have gone into liquidation. we would have lost not only those two companies, but the supply chain. >> what he said, these are his words, the american auto industry is vital to our national interest as e

about the other day. >>somegmnumbersare expected in about anhour.gmisexpected to earn 60 cents a share on revenue of $35.7 billion. gm, don't they have loss -- i mean, if they can't make money at this point, they ought to be able to because i don't think they have to pay taxes again. that's another way we sort of don't get our money out of gm. now we'll be watching facebook. about 230 million shares held by ples became employees became eligible for sale on sunday. >>> equity trading will try to get back to normal today after superstorm sandy forced the new york stock exchange and the nasdaq to wait out the storm and stay close from the last two days. if investors areomin back today, they may be wondering whether there's going to be extra volatility. ira harris joins us right now from the cme group in chicago. what's the sense you get? i've actually been surprised by how orderly all of this has been to date. >> it has been orderly, but i think that's because we've been taking our reads off of the european markets, which have held up pretty well. better than well. and where we ar

gm-->> big fan of the show. >> fantastic. >> nets/knicks, their game is still on. no one can watch it but the game is on. >> what did you learn, mark? >> one of two things happen, either a public pollster will be embarrassed and humiliated or barack obama will be re-elected. >> all right, john, these are not the dwarfs you are looking for. that's a great line. thank you for that one, carl. what time is it? at this moment time for chuck and "the daily rundown. ." >>> the aftermath, dozens of lives lost, millions still without power. hundreds lose their homes in a horrible new york fire and millions more are dealing with damage, floods, and transportation trouble. the cleanup is under way but the shock is far from over even as the first signs of normalcy emerge. after monitoring the storms from the white house, the president is heading to new jersey. he'll join governor chris christie to see the devastation on the ground himself. meanwhile, governor romney, he's back on the trail in florida. there's still just six days until the election. what does that tell us about where the

president obama of allowing manufacturing jobs to be shipped overseas. the ad says under presidentobama,gmcut15,000 jobs and planning to double the number of cars built in china. and the ad said chrysler also plans to start making jeeps in china. but a general motors spokesman told "the detroit free press," quote, we've clearly entered some parallel universe during these last few days. no amount of campaign politics at its cynical worst will diminish our record of creating jobs in the u.s. and repatriating profits back into this country. okay. >> willie, what do you think of cargate? >> cargate. they shouldn't lie. >> i think it's subjectively untrue. the ad. i think that pretty much ends it, right? it's false. no? >> what romney said on the stump was false. the ad is true. >> right. >> it's misleading, but it's true. >> explain what you mean. >> i'm sorry. what? >> production in the u.s. that exists. they're making jeeps in the u.s., selling them in the u.s. they're talking about making jeeps to sell in china in china. romney initially suggested on the stump, wrongly, that they were goi

obamatookgmandchrysler into bankruptcy. taxpayers still stand to lose $25 billion from the president's politically managed bankruptcy. these companies, chrysler in particular, we know their story, are now choosing to expand manufacturing overseas. these are the facts. >> remember the president talked about romnesia? well, it's contagious. congressman ryan. congressman ryan's caught it. let me tell you the facts. congressman ryan voted with us. he voted in the congress with us. >> joining me now, msnbc's joy reid and robert reich, former clinton labor secretary, university of california at berkeley economics professor, and author of "beyond outrage." joy reid, do you know florida? has no one told jeb bush this thing about his brother's lack of popularity with the american public? >> poor jeb keeps trying. he tried it at the convention too. he just tries to slip george in there every so often. >> you can't blame a brother, though. >> he loves his brother. you know, he keeps trying to get him back on the stage, and republicans keep saying no, thanks, we don't need him. it's also interes

staff about that. i will say this. for workers in the auto industry, across the board, whether itisgm, whetherit's nissan, whether it's american motors, individuals are very concerned about the impact of regulation that the epa and osha and other federal agencies are heaping on our manufacturers. i hear this every day from my constituents who are incredibly concerned about this. i do have gm and nissan and toyota with bodine motors. everybody talks about this. it is the out-of-control regulation, the difficulty we have with trade issues right now. that's why mitt romney has laid out a plan to create 12 million american jobs making america more business-friendly and reducing this regulation. >> and yet, the numbers, the at least from chrysler, they felt so compelled about what mitt romney was saying on the campaign trail that they issued a statement to say, not only are they not moving jobs to china, in fact, the company has nuns announced plans to hire an additional 12,000 workers in detroit. that will contradict what you say are concerns about auto workers? >> i don't see it as a co

federal relief, mitt romney is now claiming that he -- not president obamasavedg.m. and chrysler. can you believe it? mitt romney ought to burn in hell for that lie. he keeps telling it. we'll tell you why that's wrong and a whole lot more here plus bring you all of the latest on the impact of hurricane sandy. right here on the "full court press." but first, we take a little time out as always to get the latest, today's current news update from lisa ferguson standing by in los angeles. good morning lisa. >> hey bill. good morning everyone. hurricane sandy not only is taking an impact on the east coast but it is also putting a twist in the political schedule today. we are just one week out from the election. neither candidate is campaigning as planned. president obama is staying in d.c. to monitor the storm and help prep for any disaster relief. mitt romney is also putting a stop to his events saying it is out of sensitivity for the millions of people in sandy's path. romney did have events scheduled today in o

whengmwasgetting bailed out delphi was going through bankruptcy and there were lots of employees salaried and union who were asking nervous questions about their pensions. >> how is our healthcare looking after retirement? how is our pension looking? everything is good. pension plan is well funded. >> we were told that everything was secure in your pension, and you plan on that for the rest of your life. >> until like its dayton area plants delphi shut down the employee pension plans handing them off to the federal government. >> when my pension went from 2,500 $50 a month guaranteed to the federal government saying you'll get $385 a month. >> and you spend years and years making your financial plan for retirement and going through all the numbers and wanting to live like you wanted to live and with your children and grandchildren, and then it gets taken away from you in a heartbeat. i feel absolutely betrayed. >> enter delphi's biggest auto parts customer gm and the obama administration's eagerness for a quick restructuring of the automaker, gm wanting labor peace agreed to rest

suspended. but the lies continue in ohio. >> obamatookgmandchrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians who are going to build jeeps in china. >> former governor ted strickland on mitt romney's last desperate gasp to fool the buckeye state. those surprising little things she does still make you take notice. there are a million reasons why. but your erectile dysfunction that could be a question of blood flow. cialis for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess with cialis. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for

a plan to help the auto industry. he's supported by lee aiko canandgm. hesold chrysler to italians who are going to build jeeps in china. mitt romney will fight for every american job. >>> i'm mitt romney and i approved this message. >> mitt romney did actually say he'd let detroit go bankrupt and he opposed the bailout and said if we did it it you could kiss the automotive industry good-bye and that didn't really work out. when they endorsed him, they said in spite of him screwing up so badly. the point where they say barack obama sold gm to italians who are going to build jooirps in china. this appears to be a spin on this ad from ohio last week. >> i saw a store today, one of the great manufacturers in this state, jeep. now owned by the italians, thinking of moving all production to china. i will fight for every good job in america and i'm going to fight to make sure trade is fair and if it's fair america will win. >> that line about jeep moving american jobs to china? moving all production to china? that is not true. chrysler is not moving its production to china. that is not at al

minutes apart with two very different stories. does this town really revolve aroundthegmplant?>> yes. >> no question? >> no question. >> we meant sherry gaunt in lordstown, long time gm worker and vice president of the local united autoworkers. >> look where gm is now. if the government didn't step in, might not be working, might not have a job. >> here at gm's lordstown, ohio, plant, they're cranking out the chevy cruz. they're got from one shift of 100 workers to three shifts with 4500 workers today. but like most autoworkers these days, she felt the pain of the layoffs. >> how much does it play into politics for you in this election? >> it means everything. >> everything? >> everything. we're doing real well right now. >> her coworkers told us a similar story. who are you supporting for president? >> obama. >> why? >> because he's for the working class. and he helped with the bailout. >> it speaks about his dar character, speaks about his concern for us. >> in warren, ohio, some former autoworkers are angry. >> i was one of the innovators. bruce worked for delphi for 34 years, a s

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atthegmplantcalling their employers worried and asking if it is true that their jobs are being shipped to china. the reason they are making these calls because governor romney has been running an ad says so except it is not true. everybody knows it is not true. the car companies themselves have told governor romney to knock it off. gm says creating jobs here should be a source of bipartisan pride. governor romney has been running an ad that says so. except that it's not true. everybody knows it's not true. it the companies themselves have told them they are cutting jobs. saying "lead detroit go bankrupt." this is not a game. these are people's jobs. these are people's lives. these car companies are putting a lot of effort into making great products but also making sure that everyone in america knows how committed they are to making cars here in america. you do not scare hard-working americans just to scare up some votes. that's not what being president is all about. that's not leadership. when i first made the decision to rescue the automobile industry, i knew it was not popular. one o

that mitt romney is running in ohio right now, where he even had to have the ceoofgmandthe ceo of chrysler come out to say that they're lies and that he needs to cut it out. i think in ohio, such an important state for mitt romney where the president is leading right now, the obama campaign is doing exactly what they need to be doing. >> at a time like this, the visuals are just as important as the rhetoric. thank you both, maria, ana, nice to see you. >>> it is the other big story, superstorm sandy. it left behind widespread disruption and is blamed for dozens of deaths. the surprising way some of the victims died and how it may have been prevented. questions? anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yeah. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ female announcer ] live the regular life. phillips'. >>> the heartache is growing for families across the northeast, as sandy claims more lives. according to the latest number, the storm is now blamed for 106 deat

where the auto bailout failed to keep openthegmplantin janesville. and scott walker's union reforms succeeded and then paul ryan the native son who could help out a lot. >> i also think there is a snub value. i remember when there was a recall vote and the mayor of milwaukee the democrat wanted president obama to come and he flew from washington to mississippi for a fundraiser over -- from washington to minneapolis and flew from minneapolis to wisconsin again over the state of wisconsin and failed to stop to help. >> a clear snub. and republican ares are really organized in wisconsin. they had the big recall election. they have gotten together for a major partisan fight not all the way back in 2010 but just a few months ago. >> if they he come close and don't wen a lot of people will be wondering why the romney campaign didn't go in earlier. the only time he was there until this monday was to welcome paul ryan to his home state. it was a carey and gore state but -- it was a kerry and gore state. there was a lot of evidence to suggest you can put this in play at the national level. t

inaccurate and misleading. >> obamatookgmandchrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians who are going to build jeeps in china. >> what the romney campaign is saying about the ad today. we're going to be joined by former ohio governor ted strickland. we'll get a response to the polls that show the race in ohio is neck and neck. nasa released a remarkable image of hurricane sandy from space. home ominous is that i can imagine? you can monitor the latest on sandy and watch live streaming coverage of the weather channel. go to weather.com. [ female announcer ] today, jason is here to volunteer to help those in need. when a twinge of back pain surprises him. morning starts in high spirits, but there's a growing pain in his lower back. as lines grow longer, his pain continues to linger. but after a long day of helping others, he gets some helpful advice. just two aleve have the strength to keep back pain away all day. today, jason chose aleve. just two pills for all day pain relief. try aleve d for strong, all day long sinus and headache relief. >>> welcome back to our continuing

tells him not to run on his record. and you talk about osama bin laden and he talkedaboutgmandall of those kind of things yet people are saying don't run on the record, if it was a referendum on his record he will lose. >> well, i think the president talks about all of the things chris rock tweeted about in the convention, and in the campaigns communications, elections are about the future, not about the past and i think the most signicant poll number in the last two weeks, i don't think you and i have discussed this is wall street journal, nb. c poll that asked do you want the president is re-elected what do you want it to be like. >> 60 percent say substantially different, over 20 percent said they would like it to be some what different,. >> rose: that is not surprising at all. i would expect that to be what they would say. so chris rock i think would be surprised by that. chris rock would say and the president would say, i did pretty well. the president said in one of the debates i want four more years to do what i have been doing. >> rose: here is what i don't understand. thi

, a radio ad, the governor's campaign alsoaccusesgmofmoving 15,000 american jobs to china. gmish u issued a statement. in it they say we've clearly entered some parallel universe during these last few days. no anount of campaign politics at its cynical worst will change our record. it's not just that romney is taking on the president in ohio, romney is taking on the auto industry. and how is that resonating with oh ohioans, especially the job market we know there is one of the better ones in the country. >> it is, thomas. i was listening to some of the governor's remarks and i tell you, it made me nauseous, absolutely nauseous to hear this talk about things like that. jeep is investing $500 million into that plant in toledo. they'll be hiring 1,100 more workers. the fact that governor romney not only would lie but to incite fear into the residents and citizens of the state when it comes to the auto industry, he knows good and well that the president's policies helped to save the auto industry. and in the state of ohio, that means a lot of those are middle class jobs paying middle c

forgminthat town. we saidasgmgoes,so goes janesville. we lost our plant and a lot of friends i grew up with who worked at that plant who thought they could get a good job like their folks did and make a good living for their families lost that. and that livelihood is gone, i have a buddy that went from $25 an hour down to $9 an hour without benefits. we have got to help these people who are stuck in between, who are in the midst he will of their earning -- middle of their earning years, when they're supposed to be building for their family, saving for their family, putting themselves on the path of pursuing their idea of happiness, making the american dream realized for themselves and their kids. we have 46 different job training programs coming out of washington, spread across seven different agencies and it's nothing but bureaucracy. get the bureaucrats out of the way, give people like john casey the ability to take this and get people the skills they need so they can get the jobs they want in the 21st century and have themselves back on the path to prosperity. it is so essen

of a popular photo op and you can see the giantparticulargmbuilding.the tall circular building. this is where espn does the pregame and post game shows. obviously it is still about eight hours away from the first pitch. >> so, they are not yet there. and we are here. we are ready to go. and ready for the thing to get clinched so we can maybe beat the frankenstorm and get home. >> matt cain on the mound. what are you expecting from him tonight? >> well, you know, two different matt cain in the postseason. he is 2-2 so far. he has had trouble finding his location, something the other pitchers are excelling at. everyone calls him the horse. the ace and he has not been that right now in the pisces son. he will see the team is focused. they are a smart team. they are fundamentally strong team and if they can get the ball into the strike zone and make them hit the ball. the guys behind him will field it and that's what they will try to do. >> they will take one game at a time and stick to those fundamentals. >> stay calm and cool and the pressure is mounting for them. as they walk in

a plan to help the auto industry. obamatookgmandchrysler into bankruptcy, and sold vicar will to italians who are going to build jeeps in china. >> i'm mitt romney and i approve this message. >> i would pull out the fire extinguisher for the guy's pants, because that is riddled with lies, and there's one thing you need to know about mitt romney, let detroit go bankrupt. >> bill: that's right. >> and the single biggest position these two folks had to make has been any auto industry. obama got it right, romney got it wrong. this guy's business experience is walking into a corporate room, with a boat load of money and say who is lucky enough to get this money? >> and what do you call it when you have a position one day and a different the next -- >> bill: romneysia. >> romneysia. >> bill: hey mayor, thank you for your time. and a great mayor of a great city. >> absolutely. get ready for the winter. >> bill: all right. we'll be right back with jamal simmons as a friend of bill. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." ♪ dose of politics from a fresh p

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