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I'm finally finishing up X-Treme and man, I forgot what it's like to read these characters as the veterans they are. Bishop and Storm especially man, it feels like I'm reading totally different characters.

Xtreme Xmen Was really good.
And yes its absolutely jarring to read anything classic to whats current. its like they're not even trying . it like they hired a bunch of screen writers to just keep pushing out issues.
I don't know how any current X writer can claim to be a fan But write the way they do. I guess in reality they are just fans of their favorite and write the fanboynism around them.

Hire me MARVEL Ill Ghost write for you . you dont even have to pay me. My payment is the Xworld is in order again

Agreed. And then writers and Marvel want to dismissively chalk it up to “argh hate” vs valid criticism of poor writing. Like the action taking place in the comic has no value as long as they think the story/plot is good. Since when were these elements mutually exclusive lol?

I mean is it that hard to find a writer/editors who actually reads the crap they submit for final printing? Storm has a whole atmosphere to work with. Hell if we’re going to stick with lightning/EM for everything then have her reverse the polarity on him roast him enough to be incapacitated. Or hurl a massive hailsone into his head at 200 mph. Or pop his eardrumbs via pressure manipulation. Or manipulate his internal pressure to to effect his bloodflow to the brain for a KO. Marvel standards are just so terribly low.

do you see how many ideas you came up with so easily and without the incentive of being on marvel payroll? they simply dont care. storm hasnt been essential to the xmen since clarenont wrote her in xtreme. uim.hopeful things will change once marvel.finally does their thing with mutants but I'm not encouraged.

Originally Posted by ShepardOakenshieldPrime

I'm finally finishing up X-Treme and man, I forgot what it's like to read these characters as the veterans they are. Bishop and Storm especially man, it feels like I'm reading totally different characters.

please expound what differences have u observed.

Originally Posted by Wind Rider

I don’t think they control EM the same way but I think an attempt, even if unsuccessful, is worth it just a try to keep the action fresh. There combat scenes in X-Men, Extermination, Red (though the mega tidal wave was cool/creative), etc. just feels really stale. Like tey have to have action scenes because they have to, buut they don’t care about them because their story is “so good” readers won’t care :-/.....I want the whole enchilada.

Have NC tele-drop Blob from 10 miles up or tele-steal parts of OR’s armor or tentacles. Hit Magneto with a heatstroke.

I dunno. I just don’t see this team of seasoned X-men fighting like what they do actually matters since they do the same things over and over.

agreed to all of this.

Originally Posted by LordAllMIghty

If their gonna make her Lightning Lass, at least allow her to be creative with the power like Electro.

Make a electro-magnetic force field, short-circuit someone nervous system, attract or repel objects with em fields and other tricks.

hello??? I would actually be more forgiving if they actually took this approach

Originally Posted by nj06

More variety in Storm's powers is a must. Besides lightning I want tornadoes and whirlwinds, heat and cold attacks, monsoon downpours and hailstorms, etc. Writers have been very lazy with her powers. And having her blast Magneto with lightning for the umpteenth time is just redundant. Storm, sweetie: It. Doesn't. Work.

lolol. I think ororo in character knows this unfortunately she cant write herself :/

Originally Posted by stormphoenix

I don't understand if Storm has control of EM like Magneto how come she can just reverse his EM Shield to make it bust???

I think his control over the em field would be greater than hers. though I don't believe he has ever manipulated the em unaided on a global scale as she has.

Last edited by butterflykyss; 01-01-2019 at 10:43 PM.

ALL HAIL THE HADARI YAO!!!! NOW AGAIN THE ONE TRUE AND ONLY GODDESS OF THE X-MEN AS CLAREMONT INTENDED!!!!!

Just the fact that everyone contributed in their own way and felt like they had a purpose, they had their own missions and personalities. Maybe Bishop is good in Astonishing, but damn I remember he fact that he had a little story in the first issue of Uncanny but I don't remember him doing a damn thing, when compariitvly I was very impressed by one fight he had in Xtreme.

I was glad Storm was a leader like she should be but I feel like you could replace her with anyone else and it would give the same feeling. Power wise...in xtreme she would make a micro tornado, freezing rain, lightning and an emp in one issue, when she was lucky to attack with something other than lighting within multiple issues for the past 2 years.

I think his control over the em field would be greater than hers. though I don't believe he has ever manipulated the em unaided on a global scale as she has.

Wait a minute let me clarify. Magneto's Control over the EM Energy is in a sense greater than Storm's to a degree. That much we all know is true. However, with Storm feats over EM Energy I think Storm's control could rival his if not is closer to his.

I think if Storm tried to reverse his EM shield or have it implode on him would work. Storm has already made him strain himself(with Wind) make him strain himself with his own power. OF COURSE Yes, Magneto would put up a huge fight, but i'm confident he would struggle.

Storm did nothing but Harm Magneto with Lighting to the point you can see his Skeleton. (As much as I want to believe that is possible....nothing, but CIS and PIS in this Book)

Not surprised. If Storm did half the shit that was described in this post:

Originally Posted by Wind Rider

Agreed. And then writers and Marvel want to dismissively chalk it up to “argh hate” vs valid criticism of poor writing. Like the action taking place in the comic has no value as long as they think the story/plot is good. Since when were these elements mutually exclusive lol?

I mean is it that hard to find a writer/editors who actually reads the crap they submit for final printing? Storm has a whole atmosphere to work with. Hell if we’re going to stick with lightning/EM for everything then have her reverse the polarity on him roast him enough to be incapacitated. Or hurl a massive hailsone into his head at 200 mph. Or pop his eardrumbs via pressure manipulation. Or manipulate his internal pressure to to effect his bloodflow to the brain for a KO. Marvel standards are just so terribly low.

Shit would've probably ended. So PIS it is. ETA: But thinking about it. She's probably holding back since he's under telepathic control.

happy new year to you as well and thank you for sharing the nice covers!!

Originally Posted by ShepardOakenshieldPrime

Just the fact that everyone contributed in their own way and felt like they had a purpose, they had their own missions and personalities. Maybe Bishop is good in Astonishing, but damn I remember he fact that he had a little story in the first issue of Uncanny but I don't remember him doing a damn thing, when compariitvly I was very impressed by one fight he had in Xtreme.

I was glad Storm was a leader like she should be but I feel like you could replace her with anyone else and it would give the same feeling. Power wise...in xtreme she would make a micro tornado, freezing rain, lightning and an emp in one issue, when she was lucky to attack with something other than lighting within multiple issues for the past 2 years.

thank you for this detailed explanation. I think the xoffices editors have done not only a disservice to her but at the franchise as a whole. when you go back and read xtreme (which I havent done yet) as well as Claremont uncanny you are quickly reminded of just how deficient these newer stories are.

Originally Posted by stormphoenix

Wait a minute let me clarify. Magneto's Control over the EM Energy is in a sense greater than Storm's to a degree. That much we all know is true. However, with Storm feats over EM Energy I think Storm's control could rival his if not is closer to his.

I think if Storm tried to reverse his EM shield or have it implode on him would work. Storm has already made him strain himself(with Wind) make him strain himself with his own power. OF COURSE Yes, Magneto would put up a huge fight, but i'm confident he would struggle.

no I agree here. I would like to see her attempt to gain control of the em field hr used agaisnt her.

Originally Posted by Wind Rider

Waiting to read the spoilers. I probably won’t be buying this issue either.

one and simple word for the spoilers today:

TRASH

ALL HAIL THE HADARI YAO!!!! NOW AGAIN THE ONE TRUE AND ONLY GODDESS OF THE X-MEN AS CLAREMONT INTENDED!!!!!

Storm sounded so out of character in today’s issue hell everyone sounded corny and I’m not surprised Storm used just her lightning and the shit didn’t even look cool it looked like some glowing earthworms wiggling all over the damn place