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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:08 am Post subject:

sammymvpknight wrote:

A Falcons fan that knows more about the Saints than Saints fans. Ok.

Sorry, but that's absolutely terrible logic. In fact, I could point you to entire forums of Chargers fans that I'm confident scar and several other "non-Chargers" fans have superior knowledge of Chargers players and their abilities than._________________

lol. I'm really not trying to start something but Tez Wilson was an 3-4 ILB at Illinois and we asked him to play 4-3 DE. Seriously. Talent and everything else go out the window when you ask him to play a COMPLETELY different position. If we run a 0 gap then bunkley is the NT we want. If we run a 2 gap then no, I DON'T believe Lofton is the answer at ILB in our 3-4 scheme...I think we need to address that in the draft while putting Tez BACK where he belongs. Course you knew that..._________________

If there's one thing I do know about, it's football. And if there's one thing I know in football it's defensive front 7 talent. Galette and Wilson are mediocre at best. You have very little talent for a move to the 3-4 outside of Lofton, Hawthorne and Cam Jordan.

I guess we'll just wait an see. Neither of us have seen them in a 3-4 with a decent DC, you think they're mediocre and Saints fans think they'll excel when given roles that they're better built for._________________

lol. I'm really not trying to start something but Tez Wilson was an 3-4 ILB at Illinois and we asked him to play 4-3 DE. Seriously. Talent and everything else go out the window when you ask him to play a COMPLETELY different position. If we run a 0 gap then bunkley is the NT we want. If we run a 2 gap then no, I DON'T believe Lofton is the answer at ILB in our 3-4 scheme...I think we need to address that in the draft while putting Tez BACK where he belongs. Course you knew that...

Get out of here with that logic, he's clearly just mediocre! Why couldn't that 3-4 ILB develop as a DE?! Mediocrity of course!_________________
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Not surprising after that season, i guess without those beast NYG DEs, Spags doesnt look all that great?

His scheme works but it needs to right personnel. If it was all about just having a good d-line then Sheridan and Fewell should have great defenses too. Our defense hasn't been the same since he left. _________________"A lion roars in the darkness only he holds the key, a light to free me from my burden and grant me life eternally"

Saints can change scheme and DC all they want, need to add talent before their DC is even close to be respectable.

Akiem Hicks, Cameron Jordan, Martez Wilson, and Junior Gallette all have potential and talent, but can't maximize it in a 4-3.

Curtis Lofton and David Hawthorne are both starting quality LBers.

They need a legit pass rusher and secondary help, but lets not act like they've got nobody.

hate to break it to you, but Wilson and Galette are mediocre at best. They couldn't crack a starting lineup on well... any other defense in the NFC south, let alone the rest of the NFL.

Lofton and Hawthorne are perfect for your ILB roles though. Especially Lofton as a Ted. he's a great fit there.

Galette is a great fit at 3-4 OLB, especially as an edge rusher and Wilson has switched from DE to OLB back to DE in the NFL, lets give him a break.

I was being nice calling them both mediocre...

Typical Falcons fan...

Ok, if you "know so much about football", then why don't you respect this front 7. You're blind to opinions on the Saints because you're a Falcons fan.
Imagine we draft Dion Jordan.. who is my top choice BTW. This would be the front 7.

That's a very good and respectable front 7, now, if we can just fix the secondary... :p But, a good front 7 makes a meh secondary look at least average. We'll be a top 25 defense next year IMO. I want Ed Donatell as our DC though, because he can get the most out of our secondary, to compliment a good front 7. Can't wait to see Ryan on the ground by the way.

Last edited by Spartica4Real on Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:48 pm; edited 1 time in total

That's a very good and respectable front 7, now, if we can just fix the secondary... :p But, a good front 7 makes a meh secondary look at least average. We'll be a top 25 defense next year IMO. I want Ed Donatell as our DC though, because he can get the most out of our secondary, to compliment a good front 7. Can't wait to see Ryan on the ground by the way.

1) Don't make this about fans or other fan bases, keep the talk related to football.

Saints can change scheme and DC all they want, need to add talent before their DC is even close to be respectable.

Akiem Hicks, Cameron Jordan, Martez Wilson, and Junior Gallette all have potential and talent, but can't maximize it in a 4-3.

Curtis Lofton and David Hawthorne are both starting quality LBers.

They need a legit pass rusher and secondary help, but lets not act like they've got nobody.

hate to break it to you, but Wilson and Galette are mediocre at best. They couldn't crack a starting lineup on well... any other defense in the NFC south, let alone the rest of the NFL.

Lofton and Hawthorne are perfect for your ILB roles though. Especially Lofton as a Ted. he's a great fit there.

Galette is a great fit at 3-4 OLB, especially as an edge rusher and Wilson has switched from DE to OLB back to DE in the NFL, lets give him a break.

I was being nice calling them both mediocre...

Typical Falcons fan...

Ok, if you "know so much about football", then why don't you respect this front 7. You're blind to opinions on the Saints because you're a Falcons fan.
Imagine we draft Dion Jordan.. who is my top choice BTW. This would be the front 7.

That's a very good and respectable front 7, now, if we can just fix the secondary... :p But, a good front 7 makes a meh secondary look at least average. We'll be a top 25 defense next year IMO. I want Ed Donatell as our DC though, because he can get the most out of our secondary, to compliment a good front 7. Can't wait to see Ryan on the ground by the way.

I don't like that LB group because our ILBs will get killed by receiving TEs and RBs coming out of the backfield. We need an ILB with some coverage ability. Leave Lofton inside as the Ted. Wilson as the OLB, he has shown some talent for rushing the passer. I don't think we would survive long with no coverage ability in the middle of the field. Part of the reason Wilson didn't get much time at LB was because he was far too raw in the coverage game._________________

Saints can change scheme and DC all they want, need to add talent before their DC is even close to be respectable.

Akiem Hicks, Cameron Jordan, Martez Wilson, and Junior Gallette all have potential and talent, but can't maximize it in a 4-3.

Curtis Lofton and David Hawthorne are both starting quality LBers.

They need a legit pass rusher and secondary help, but lets not act like they've got nobody.

hate to break it to you, but Wilson and Galette are mediocre at best. They couldn't crack a starting lineup on well... any other defense in the NFC south, let alone the rest of the NFL.

Lofton and Hawthorne are perfect for your ILB roles though. Especially Lofton as a Ted. he's a great fit there.

Galette is a great fit at 3-4 OLB, especially as an edge rusher and Wilson has switched from DE to OLB back to DE in the NFL, lets give him a break.

I was being nice calling them both mediocre...

Typical Falcons fan...

Ok, if you "know so much about football", then why don't you respect this front 7. You're blind to opinions on the Saints because you're a Falcons fan.
Imagine we draft Dion Jordan.. who is my top choice BTW. This would be the front 7.

That's a very good and respectable front 7, now, if we can just fix the secondary... :p But, a good front 7 makes a meh secondary look at least average. We'll be a top 25 defense next year IMO. I want Ed Donatell as our DC though, because he can get the most out of our secondary, to compliment a good front 7. Can't wait to see Ryan on the ground by the way.

I don't like that LB group because our ILBs will get killed by receiving TEs and RBs coming out of the backfield. We need an ILB with some coverage ability. Leave Lofton inside as the Ted. Wilson as the OLB, he has shown some talent for rushing the passer. I don't think we would survive long with no coverage ability in the middle of the field. Part of the reason Wilson didn't get much time at LB was because he was far too raw in the coverage game.

Martez Wilson has all the ability to become an elite LB in coverage; he's strong, fast, agile and big. I see no harm in working him there all offseason and seeing what happens._________________
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