Posted - 03/27/2012 : 05:08:48 With the playoffs just a couple weeks away, I just want some opinions. If you were to draft first in your playoff pool who would you take? that is who do you think will be a big point getter on a team that is assured to go deep, maybe not win the cup, but at least go deep. Right now, if I were to take first pick overall, it would probably be Gino, I think he is going to keep rolling right into the playoffs

How many are going to 2nd round? 9 of the above are out in 1st round out of 12 you picked Beans. Just sayin'.

Guest4403

Posted - 04/21/2012 : 03:24:50 Giroux already with 11 points, that pretty damn good for 5 games, then again this series but been crazy with goals.

ToXXiK1

Posted - 04/20/2012 : 21:29:34

quote:Originally posted by slozo

quote:Originally posted by Alex116

See Slozo, these guys were serious about the Radulov pick!

Guest0959....with all due respect, he's just not a guy i can see many taking with the 1st overall pick. Now, if you have 9th or 10th overall in your draft, i could see someone taking a flyer on him? Personally, i wouldn't touch him till the 2nd round, but that's just me. But, my whole point was that the OP asked for opinions on who everyone would lean towards with the #1 overall pick in a playoff pool. IMO, taking Radulov would be a huge risk. Radulov and Nashville could go all the way and he still may put up only 20 points in that system. On the other had, Malkin and Crosby could easily get 20+ and lose in the semi's!!!

I can't believe it Alex . . . I retreat in the face of ignorance (hand on face) . . . fair enough, call them idiots, they deserve it.

I mean - to get serious again - I do get the "darkhorse" pick as your potential "top 5" guy. For me, I have many on my personal "darkhorse" list - Brad Richards is probably #1. James Neal is #2. Kris Letang is right there, as is Lidstrom. Heck, in the west . . . there are almost too many to mention, as all the teams are closely ranked and hard to choose between. But Backes would be my #1 darkhorse from St. Louis.

But Radulov? Not even a very likely or good pick as a darkhorse, IMHO. He's not a super soft player, but . . . he's also not tough - and in the playoffs, it's a whole different level. He may be a bit fresher, but . . . he's not used to the grinding play either anymore. I REALLY don't see it.

"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug

Radulov - 1G 4A advancing to 2nd round.Not bad in 5 games against the defensive minded Wings.........considering Neal and Letang will be out shortly and Lidstrom already is

foolpittier

Posted - 04/04/2012 : 14:33:12

quote:Originally posted by Alex116

quote:Originally posted by slozo

quote:Originally posted by Alex116

*Disclaimer* The following is my opinion, and my opinion only.

Anyone taking Radulov 1st overall is crazy. The only way in the world someone could possibly do so would be a die hard Pred's fan and even then it's questionable. Even then it'd have to be a huge draft whereby the guy/gal doesn't think he/she would have a chance to pick him in round 2. Any draft of 10 or less teams (snake style) and you could prob still get him on the way back, even if you pick 1 and 20!

Don't get me wrong, he's not a bad pick, at the right point, but just not 1st overall!!!!

Um, just guessing here, but . . . I think it was a joke. Like, sarcasm.

"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug

Slozo, you might be right, but i'm not convinced. Foolpittier certainly didn't give us much to go on by his rather brief post, and maybe he was just throwing it out there as a guy "not to forget"? If it was sarcasm and i missed it, i must have missed the guest's sarcasm in his reply when he said "good choice with radulov, but why not brad richards in nyr?"? Are we to assume one of the best guys off the top team from the East was meant as sarcasm too?

It was a joke, but i'd take him late

Guest9558

Posted - 04/03/2012 : 20:55:17 I try to predict the final four teams and concentrate on the stars from those teams. Works great if you predict correctly, not so much if you don't.

Looks like it will be Pittsburg vs. Philly in the first round and I predict the Flyers will take down the Pens, so Malkin won't have staying power. I believe it will be Rangers vs. Flyers for Eastern final, so someone like Giroux or Gaborik would make a good first pick.

Nashville doesn't have an obvious pick because their scoring is spread around, same with St. Louis. Vancouver is playing well and still winning games without Daniel, so I might look at Henrik.

Shepsky

Posted - 04/03/2012 : 18:18:14 I really don't know if I could take a penguin or a flyer first overall now, I mean one of those teams is leaving in round one, but which one?

Posted - 04/01/2012 : 19:17:19 My answer right now is a big depends. We need to see who's playing who in the first round match-ups first. And it also depends on the rules in your draft. (i.e. How many people are in your draft, etc.)

If the Penguins and Flyers meet up in the first round, do you want to take Malkin as your first pick? If the Canucks play the Coyotes in the first round, I would take the Sedins ahead of Malkin in this scenario. No disrespect to the Yotes (or Penguins), but I would rate the Canucks as a bigger favourite over the Coyotes, than the Penguins would be over the Flyers if these were the first round match-ups. And in playoff pools, it's more about which team goes the furthest than which players had the most regular season points.

And what if the Hawks play the Wings in the first round? Do you want to take 3 players from each team, knowing that one team will be eliminated in the first round?

Once again, it depends on your pool situation, and moreso, it depends on the first round match-ups!

Shepsky

Posted - 04/01/2012 : 13:52:03 It all comes down to first round matchups, right now the preds are against detroit first round, Detroit has played inconsistently this year (at least for Detroit's standards) and have only won 2 out of their last 10. Western conference is a shake up though, and the Preds could be playing Chicago first round, who have been playing well recently, but still not consistent throughout the year. I would at least say the preds will make it to round 2.

Every day is a great day for hockey-Mario Lemieux

OILINONTARIO

Posted - 03/31/2012 : 16:55:42 Yeah, obviously Radulov is a dark, dark horse. I have been known to take some in past pools (ie Forsberg, and more recently Sid), but the Preds just don't have the nuts to get the job done. I could probably name another dozen after the ones Beans mentioned that I would pick before any Predator. Although, I do like to be unpredictable, as I know some in my pools post on here regularly.

No, really Shepsky, the Preds are gonna tank. I guarantee it.

Nudge and/or wink.

The Oil WILL make the playoffs in 2013.

Beans15

Posted - 03/31/2012 : 16:34:29 Based on the standings today, I don't see Radulov in the to 10 picks going into the playoffs. I would easily put Crosby, Malkin, Richards, Giroux, Gaborik, Sedin( both), Zetterberg, Datsuyk, Hossa, Kane, Sharp.

There is 12 guys off the top of my head and that only forwards. Guys like Letang and Lidstrom would also be ahead of Radulov. Also a guy like Toews would be ahead of Radulov if healthy.

Seriously, if you would pick Radulov in the 1st round please let me know if you have any room in your draft.

I want in.

OILINONTARIO

Posted - 03/31/2012 : 16:20:40

quote:Originally posted by JOSHUACANADA

I expect Nashville to go deep. So I'd say Radulov might actually be a good pick.

Richards and Gaborik would be risky in the playoffs because the Rangers usually crap hardcore in the playoffs and even though they enter the playoff with the 1 ranking in the East, either Washington or Buffalo might be a tough 1st round opponent as both are pushing hard now and coming into playoff form.

A guy like Karlson if you expect the Sens to get by Boston. I would think Boston handles the Sens in the first round. Should The Sens handle Boston, the Rangers and Pittsburg match up well with Ottawa

WHAT?? Nashville will go farther than NYR because the Rangers usually crap out in the playoffs? You could be right, but to state that as a prediction is kinda weird. Nashville is kinda like Washington was in the late 80's to me. Always a solid team, and a perennial disappointment in the post season. Just happy to be there.

It was said every year, 'they should be playoff ready by now, and they have such a balanced team....'. Well, it never happened, and as much as everybody loves Mr. Trotz, Mr. Weber, Mr. Suter, and Comrade Radulov, it ain't gonna happen. You can quote me on that.

The Oil WILL make the playoffs in 2013.

JOSHUACANADA

Posted - 03/31/2012 : 10:38:59 Smart play would be Malkin or Crosby, but if I dont get first pick I can see the arguement for a Radulov. Most team havent adjusted to how this guy plays and you cant say he doesn't deserve the offensive hype and I expect Nashville to go deep. So I'd say Radulov might actually be a good pick.

Richards and Gaborik would be risky in the playoffs because the Rangers usually crap hardcore in the playoffs and even though they enter the playoff with the 1 ranking in the East, either Washington or Buffalo might be a tough 1st round opponent as both are pushing hard now and coming into playoff form.

A guy like Karlson if you expect the Sens to get by Boston. I would think Boston handles the Sens in the first round. Should The Sens handle Boston, the Rangers and Pittsburg match up well with Ottawa

Guest4465

Posted - 03/31/2012 : 05:23:43 KYLE TURRIS!!!!

Shepsky

Posted - 03/29/2012 : 04:11:49 well that's what I meant, your first pick. assuming you got first pick overall lol

Every day is a great day for hockey-Mario Lemieux

Guest0959

Posted - 03/28/2012 : 22:38:16 And I think I misunderstand "1st pick" terminology. I usually think, my first pick, not the very first pick in the draft,

Guest0959

Posted - 03/28/2012 : 22:34:55 maybe convince others to take him too early so you get better picks :)

slozo

Posted - 03/28/2012 : 22:22:58

quote:Originally posted by Alex116

See Slozo, these guys were serious about the Radulov pick!

Guest0959....with all due respect, he's just not a guy i can see many taking with the 1st overall pick. Now, if you have 9th or 10th overall in your draft, i could see someone taking a flyer on him? Personally, i wouldn't touch him till the 2nd round, but that's just me. But, my whole point was that the OP asked for opinions on who everyone would lean towards with the #1 overall pick in a playoff pool. IMO, taking Radulov would be a huge risk. Radulov and Nashville could go all the way and he still may put up only 20 points in that system. On the other had, Malkin and Crosby could easily get 20+ and lose in the semi's!!!

I can't believe it Alex . . . I retreat in the face of ignorance (hand on face) . . . fair enough, call them idiots, they deserve it.

I mean - to get serious again - I do get the "darkhorse" pick as your potential "top 5" guy. For me, I have many on my personal "darkhorse" list - Brad Richards is probably #1. James Neal is #2. Kris Letang is right there, as is Lidstrom. Heck, in the west . . . there are almost too many to mention, as all the teams are closely ranked and hard to choose between. But Backes would be my #1 darkhorse from St. Louis.

But Radulov? Not even a very likely or good pick as a darkhorse, IMHO. He's not a super soft player, but . . . he's also not tough - and in the playoffs, it's a whole different level. He may be a bit fresher, but . . . he's not used to the grinding play either anymore. I REALLY don't see it.

"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug

Alex116

Posted - 03/28/2012 : 15:08:43 See Slozo, these guys were serious about the Radulov pick!

Guest0959....with all due respect, he's just not a guy i can see many taking with the 1st overall pick. Now, if you have 9th or 10th overall in your draft, i could see someone taking a flyer on him? Personally, i wouldn't touch him till the 2nd round, but that's just me. But, my whole point was that the OP asked for opinions on who everyone would lean towards with the #1 overall pick in a playoff pool. IMO, taking Radulov would be a huge risk. Radulov and Nashville could go all the way and he still may put up only 20 points in that system. On the other had, Malkin and Crosby could easily get 20+ and lose in the semi's!!!

Guest0959

Posted - 03/28/2012 : 11:19:37 sorry, disregard above chicago comments, Nashville would play detroit(gulp) if the standings remain the way they are, so my mistake.

That kind of makes it lean against Nashville, and thus Radulov.

Guest0959

Posted - 03/28/2012 : 09:30:00 I do not understand why Radulov would not be good first pick. If it is a playoff pool, why not take a giant risk that Nashville will go far?

In the west, is there a team that is better defensively? Weber, Suter are probably the best tandem in hockey.

Their goaltending is great, one of the best, if not best, in the league. Nashville most likely end up playing Chicago, which isn't an easy team to play. But, their goaltending is suspect, and Toews is concussed.

Last year, Nashville gave Vancouver huge issues. What was missing? Offense. It was balanced but lacked any real "oomph". That is what (in my opinion) Radulov may give them.

It is a risk, but I really think that Radulov would be a defensible, if not legitimate first pick(if not first overall, then at least an individual's first pick.)

Anyone taking Radulov 1st overall is crazy. The only way in the world someone could possibly do so would be a die hard Pred's fan and even then it's questionable. Even then it'd have to be a huge draft whereby the guy/gal doesn't think he/she would have a chance to pick him in round 2. Any draft of 10 or less teams (snake style) and you could prob still get him on the way back, even if you pick 1 and 20!

Don't get me wrong, he's not a bad pick, at the right point, but just not 1st overall!!!!

Um, just guessing here, but . . . I think it was a joke. Like, sarcasm.

"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug

Slozo, you might be right, but i'm not convinced. Foolpittier certainly didn't give us much to go on by his rather brief post, and maybe he was just throwing it out there as a guy "not to forget"? If it was sarcasm and i missed it, i must have missed the guest's sarcasm in his reply when he said "good choice with radulov, but why not brad richards in nyr?"? Are we to assume one of the best guys off the top team from the East was meant as sarcasm too?

ryan93

Posted - 03/28/2012 : 07:59:28 Nor would I. I think they definitely have a shot at going all the way, but to me the Penguins have to be considered the favorites. As I said in my first post, if I get first pick I'll be taking Evgeni Malkin. After that, I'm not so sure though. If Crosby can get through the rest of the regular season healthy & continues to put up points at the rate he has been, then I'd definintely have to think about taking him next. I'm pretty sure the top Pens will be picked up early, so it'll be quickly on to plan B. What that is I don't know.

The West is a tough one. Vancouver? Detroit? Nashville? St.Louis? Chicago? San Jose? Assuming they make it, Los Angeles? It wouldn't surprise me to see any of the above teams go deep.

Shepsky

Posted - 03/28/2012 : 05:28:51 okay Ryan, I see what you're saying, the first Ranger I take would be Richards to, I just don't think I would take a Ranger first overall, would probably want to strip apart the big guys on Pittsburgh first, but the point of this thread was to see other teams people would "bet the farm" on going deep, doesn't seem to be as many this year...

Every day is a great day for hockey-Mario Lemieux

slozo

Posted - 03/28/2012 : 05:23:43

quote:Originally posted by Alex116

*Disclaimer* The following is my opinion, and my opinion only.

Anyone taking Radulov 1st overall is crazy. The only way in the world someone could possibly do so would be a die hard Pred's fan and even then it's questionable. Even then it'd have to be a huge draft whereby the guy/gal doesn't think he/she would have a chance to pick him in round 2. Any draft of 10 or less teams (snake style) and you could prob still get him on the way back, even if you pick 1 and 20!

Don't get me wrong, he's not a bad pick, at the right point, but just not 1st overall!!!!

Um, just guessing here, but . . . I think it was a joke. Like, sarcasm.

"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug

ryan93

Posted - 03/28/2012 : 05:10:25 The Rangers are 5-0 against the Flyers this season, but even so, they still scare me as a potential first round matchup.

As for Brad Richards, he'd be my first choice as far as Rangers go, ahead of Gaborik.

Shepsky

Posted - 03/28/2012 : 04:05:26 Brad Richards might still be considered a little gamble, because the Rangers haven't had a strong playoff run in a little while, despite finishing first, possibly 4th if Pittsburgh manages to pass them, if they finish 4th they will most likely be playing Philly, a tough team with a lot of skill. In which case I would put my money on the Rangers exiting first round, unless they can hold on to the first spot in the east.

Anyone taking Radulov 1st overall is crazy. The only way in the world someone could possibly do so would be a die hard Pred's fan and even then it's questionable. Even then it'd have to be a huge draft whereby the guy/gal doesn't think he/she would have a chance to pick him in round 2. Any draft of 10 or less teams (snake style) and you could prob still get him on the way back, even if you pick 1 and 20!

Don't get me wrong, he's not a bad pick, at the right point, but just not 1st overall!!!!

sahis34

Posted - 03/27/2012 : 20:53:56

quote:Originally posted by foolpittier

Radulov

haha that's a good one, radulov funny. Stamkos would probably do more from his couch

Guest0959

Posted - 03/27/2012 : 20:41:03 good choice with radulov, but why not brad richards in nyr?

Shepsky

Posted - 03/27/2012 : 18:24:32

quote:Originally posted by foolpittier

Radulov

might not be a bad choice, Nashville might actually make a splash this year, and Radulov could get a few points...

Every day is a great day for hockey-Mario Lemieux

ryan93

Posted - 03/27/2012 : 16:30:37 Evgeni Malkin would be my first choice, but beyond that I have no clue. Might be one of those years where I hope i have a mid to late 1st round pick in my pool, which is a snake type draft.

foolpittier

Posted - 03/27/2012 : 14:04:55Radulov

sahis34

Posted - 03/27/2012 : 13:05:23 My bad I thought we were talking about next year's regular season. To clarify; no I wouldn't take stamkos. malkin, crosby, gaborik, would likely be my first pick

Alex116

Posted - 03/27/2012 : 11:07:40

quote:Originally posted by Guest4271

Ill be taking Brad Marchand first just like i did last year.

Wow, even if you did in fact luck out and use your first pick last year for Marchand, i'd love to be in a pool with you! BTW, the question was who would you take 1st overall in a playoff pool (this season). Now, if you got 20th pick overall in a pool with 20 teams, i guess taking Marchand wouldnt' be so silly. But 1st?

BTW, Sahis.......i really hope you were talking about a regular season pool? TB is not just unlikely to make the playoffs (they're 7 pts behind 8th place with 3 teams to catch/pass), they're as good as dead.

slozo

Posted - 03/27/2012 : 10:55:51

quote:Originally posted by sahis34

Stamkos. With crosby coming back, malkins production over the whole season will be down.

Funny guy.

I knew a funny guy once . . . spent all his money on hockey pools, went broke, now he makes jokes outside the liquor store begging for change.

Still funny though.

"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug

Guest4271

Posted - 03/27/2012 : 10:00:35 Ill be taking Brad Marchand first just like i did last year.

Guest8384

Posted - 03/27/2012 : 09:51:05 There is no mistaking this thread for a Leaf one!

Shepsky

Posted - 03/27/2012 : 09:27:36 I think Crosby will be taken right behind Malkin, the way he's played this year (when he has actually played) he'll be worth the gamble of possible injury again. plus Pittsburgh is one of the only teams I'll be surprised if they don't go deep