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Yep, the Kartboy has a similar feel to the SPT but it is a little shorter overall. The metal ball also may provide a slightly more solid feel. I definitely think it is a better option (for more people) than the SPT when you consider the price.

Yeah the price definitely makes the Kartboy a better option. But I think the material the Kartboy uses seem to be nicer lol. Stainless steel of some sort compares to the steel of the SPT. Too late for me. I'll have to stick with the SPT one until it breaks or for the life of my car haha.

I didn't have to cut any zip tie when unplugging the 02 sensor. I just pushed out the little plastic pin that had a zip tie built into it and when I was done I plugged it back in again. I think it was right next to one of the dp bolts. I'm fine with keeping the spt shifter, can't imagine the material would make any difference, thanks to xluben's pictures/measurements he took I didn't buy the kartboy. Thanks xluben, saved me some money!

I haven't run into any that were to bad yet. I usually clamp them with needle nose pliers on the side that is stuck through the hole and push forward. I may run into one later on that's a b**** though.

I didn't have to cut any zip tie when unplugging the 02 sensor. I just pushed out the little plastic pin that had a zip tie built into it and when I was done I plugged it back in again. I think it was right next to one of the dp bolts. I'm fine with keeping the spt shifter, can't imagine the material would make any difference, thanks to xluben's pictures/measurements he took I didn't buy the kartboy. Thanks xluben, saved me some money!

A set of Front & Rear Kartboy shifter bushings are coming in the mail for me tomorrow. Hopefully it won't take too much effort for me to get them installed. Did you have to remove the tranny cross member? I don't have anything to support the trann will that be a problem to remove the cross member?

It makes it much easier if you remove the cross member. Even if you just remove the very rearmost piece it gives you a lot more room, and the tranny should still supported well enough. I just use a jack with a hockey puck on it. Works fine.

It makes it much easier if you remove the cross member. Even if you just remove the very rearmost piece it gives you a lot more room, and the tranny should still supported well enough. I just use a jack with a hockey puck on it. Works fine.

Thanks for all the support. I'd buy you a beer if I could haha. I might have to go to my uncle how to work on this as he has much more tool than me.

A set of Front & Rear Kartboy shifter bushings are coming in the mail for me tomorrow. Hopefully it won't take too much effort for me to get them installed. Did you have to remove the tranny cross member? I don't have anything to support the trann will that be a problem to remove the cross member?

Definitely do it man, once you start on it you will see that it's not too bad. Really take your time with the rear one so you don't cross thread it like others have said. I suggest threading the new bolt in without the bushing first, so you can see the angle it needs to go in at. When I did that it went in right away. also remember the rear kb bushing has the holes slightly closer together than they should be, you will have to start one (preferably the passenger side one) first and then get the bushing to flex slightly to get the other bolt to start, also leave the first bolt only threaded in about halfway before you do that. It really isn't too bad though.

Definitely do it man, once you start on it you will see that it's not too bad. Really take your time with the rear one so you don't cross thread it like others have said. I suggest threading the new bolt in without the bushing first, so you can see the angle it needs to go in at. When I did that it went in right away. also remember the rear kb bushing has the holes slightly closer together than they should be, you will have to start one (preferably the passenger side one) first and then get the bushing to flex slightly to get the other bolt to start, also leave the first bolt only threaded in about halfway before you do that. It really isn't too bad though.

Xluben I believe you can answer this for me. I thought I read this in this thread but I may have skipped over it this time, but somewhere I was reading that the shift linkage included with the SPT is the same as the stock linkage. So if I was to buy just the SPT short throw lever it would bolt up to the factory linkage just fine?

Xluben I believe you can answer this for me. I thought I read this in this thread but I may have skipped over it this time, but somewhere I was reading that the shift linkage included with the SPT is the same as the stock linkage. So if I was to buy just the SPT short throw lever it would bolt up to the factory linkage just fine?

I'm on the fence regarding what the SPT STS does on it's own. I know it's been asked in a few different ways, but I have to ask it this way...

So the SPT is a stock assembly (linkage and all), but has a slightly/different shorter shift lever?

I have a 2012 WRX with a Kartboy SS and all of the bushings. I'm ready to install it, but I keep thinking about using the SPT kit with the Kartboy.

Is the SPT assembly + the Kartboy lever better than just the Kartboy lever?

Some are saying the linkage in the SPT is the same as stock while some say it's different... I've never seen one myself.

Is there any advantage whatsoever to adding the SPT if I already have a Kartboy and all the bushing? No increased strength, better hardware, different linkage? Anything? I love to waste money so if there is any advantage I'll jump on it before installing the rest of the parts.

I'm on the fence regarding what the SPT STS does on it's own. I know it's been asked in a few different ways, but I have to ask it this way...

So the SPT is a stock assembly (linkage and all), but has a slightly/different shorter shift lever?

I have a 2012 WRX with a Kartboy SS and all of the bushings. I'm ready to install it, but I keep thinking about using the SPT kit with the Kartboy.

Is the SPT assembly + the Kartboy lever better than just the Kartboy lever?

Some are saying the linkage in the SPT is the same as stock while some say it's different... I've never seen one myself.

Is there any advantage whatsoever to adding the SPT if I already have a Kartboy and all the bushing? No increased strength, better hardware, different linkage? Anything? I love to waste money so if there is any advantage I'll jump on it before installing the rest of the parts.

As stated at the very beginning of the first post in this thread, the SPT linkages are identical to stock. The shift lever creates slightly shorter throws.

If you bought the SPT shifter kit, and then put in a Kartboy shifter and bushings, you would have the exact same thing as if you didn't buy the SPT parts.

As stated at the very beginning of the first post in this thread, the SPT linkages are identical to stock. The shift lever creates slightly shorter throws.

If you bought the SPT shifter kit, and then put in a Kartboy shifter and bushings, you would have the exact same thing as if you didn't buy the SPT parts.

Thank you. I do realize that you stated this in the first post, and that it was mentioned a couple times thereafter. My mind has a way of hearing things, so I just had to ask the question in a way that satisfied my version of mental insanity. It looks like I can put $200+ towards something else.

Thank you again for taking the time to re-clarify / confirm this. I really appreciate it.

As xluben said the linkages are the same. The spt only changes the pivot point not the shifter height if I'm not mistaken. The kartboy changes the pivot point the same as the spt but it also shortens the overall height of the shifter (shift knob sits lower). I personally prefer the shifter height on the spt, the kartboy sits too low and requires more force to change gears due to less leverage from it sitting lower. I installed my friends kb ss so I know how the kb feels compared to my spt.

Completely agree with this statement 1 month after a super shifter kit, group-n trans mount, and cross-member bushing install and still think it was well worth it. The install was extremely easy too.

Before I did bought the parts I asked xluben if he happened to get a picture of SLP height once installed vs. Kartboy height once installed from the center counsel. He didn't have them so I took some pictures of just that during my install to post here. Haven't got around to it yet, I will try to today for others reference.

Completely agree with this statement 1 month after a super shifter kit, group-n trans mount, and cross-member bushing install and still think it was well worth it. The install was extremely easy too.

Before I did bought the parts I asked xluben if he happened to get a picture of SLP height once installed vs. Kartboy height once installed from the center counsel. He didn't have them so I took some pictures of just that during my install to post here. Haven't got around to it yet, I will try to today for others reference.

Chris

Height comparison pictures would be great. It can depend a lot on what knob you're using though. Depending on the knob/shifter combo it could bottom out on the end of the shift into the knob, or the end of the threading, or on the collar of the OEM/SPT. So some knobs will sit lower on some shifters, and vice versa.

Height comparison pictures would be great. It can depend a lot on what knob you're using though. Depending on the knob/shifter combo it could bottom out on the end of the shift into the knob, or the end of the threading, or on the collar of the OEM/SPT. So some knobs will sit lower on some shifters, and vice versa.

Very good point xluben. For example my sparco knob is one of the knobs that slips over the shifter and secures with set screws. Being that mine sits as low as it does, I virtually have the same setup as a kb ss with a normal threaded knob attached. Hope that makes sense.

Height comparison pictures would be great. It can depend a lot on what knob you're using though. Depending on the knob/shifter combo it could bottom out on the end of the shift into the knob, or the end of the threading, or on the collar of the OEM/SPT. So some knobs will sit lower on some shifters, and vice versa.

So glad I found this. I put on a new knob and my SPT feels like a different shifter now!