'The Land beyond Gelion', between Mount Rerir and the river Ascar, where Caranthir dwelt; called also Dor Caranthir and Talath Rhunen.The land beyond Gelion. Name, meaning simply 'land beyond Gelion', given to the northern parts of the region that lay between the River Gelion and the Blue Mountains. After the Return of the Noldor, Caranthir dwelt here, and after this time it was more normally called Dor Caranthir ('Caranthir's land').