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Goodbye, trap bodyguard, goodbye

Yup, Koisuru to Otome to Shugo no Tate translation project is gone. So, how many C&Ds does that make? I’ve lost count a while ago. I don’t have much to say on the subject, because I can’t understand the legal reasons behind the actions of many companies (taking law next year), but I really have to wonder why here and why now. Was this triggered by some kind of communication among companies to protect what they believe to be their collective rights? Or did all this get started by 1 person who considered him/herself as a righteous representative of companies? It would be quite interesting if someone compiled a time line that showed where this all started from.

And why is it that I’ve only heard this kind of news for English translation groups and none for Chinese? Are the companies biased against those who speak English? Or maybe they just simply didn’t know about the Chinese circles (which, I might add, is much more developed than the English one)? Perhaps it’s just that the Chinese ignore the warnings and don’t talk about it, and a very likely explanation is that I’m just not that informed.

No matter what, the results of these things and their effects on the community are going to be very interestimg. I mean, we’ve already had no small amount of flaming, who knows what’s going to come next.

I was more looking forward to Kara no Shoujo. It was close to finished, and the Chinese group died a while back, so it was my only hope… But there’s still a rumor of Mangagamer bringing it over. If they do, I might actually buy it (have yet to play or buy a mangagamer game).

I agree with the going underground bit. I actually got some complaints through my IP about anime, so I get them all through IRC now. It’d be an interesting psychological phenomenon to see the english going the same way as Chinese (there are few site based groups, most can only be contacted through QQ or forums, some can’t be contacted at all).

1. The companies are definitely getting “tipped off” about translation projects by people in or on the periphery of the English fan community. Whether they’re doing this out of a sense of morality or just a desire to see how much trouble they can cause isn’t clear. Of course, I don’t think it’s like the companies were actually otherwise unaware of it, but it is a factor.

2. MangaGamer (along with Jast to some degree) has been making some inroads in trying to get companies to cooperate and release games for the English market. I think a lot of these companies would really like the English market to take off, as the Japanese market certainly isn’t growing. They surely realize that having the game already translated and available for free download really damages their chances of selling the product later for what they might consider a “reasonable price”.

3. There’s still some residual pain felt about the whole Rapelay incident from a few years back, with some companies believing that an uncontrolled increase in exposure in America and other foreign markets could result in increased foreign pressure and censorship.

At the end of the day, I think fan translation projects have a place, but I think some people involved have been deluding themselves into thinking that the companies would be okay with it all. Certainly, having large public sites dedicated to fostering an entire community around unauthorized translation of copywritten work wasn’t very wise. The spillover from those unwise decisions, combined with the both political and financial culture of the day, has affected all fan translation projects.

I can see why there’s problems about rapelay and whatnot, I just don’t understand why people aren’t getting over them. Same thing with the money issues. It’s not like scanlations killed the manga industry in North America. This kind of like how I still can’t understand the discrimination the Chinese give to the Japanese or so many people give to homosexuals. It’s probably just the youthful optimism/naivety in me.

two reasons~
first,In china there are so many pirate software exist,so these companies may just give up.
second,chinese government forbid imports of erogame(of course many VN contain H-scene),so these companies can’t get anything from their action.

and many chinese translation “work in dark”,they don’t have blogs,they don’t release progress reports,so it’s hard to interrupt their work.

It’s the eroge companies that don’t want exports, so it doesn’t matter, right?
I really wish some of them would work in the dark, and some of them wouldn’t. Looking at the WLO progress reports makes me depressed, and not looking at the Yasuga no Sora progress makes me depressed lol

If you ask me, the timing of the C&D is a lot more hilarious than the implications (of which there will be little, since we all are dealing with the fallout of A Certain Retarded GipFace…), since the project was stalled long before the C&D was released.

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Koisuru Otome to Shugo no Tate project doesn’t belong to Aegis Translation. I have no idea why they hosted that project on their website (the project didn’t progress after that).
So the fact that Aegis announced that they discontinued this project after C&D order (as mentioned on encubed before) didn’t mean anything.
This is the main page of project:http://vnsharing.net/forum/showpost….01&postcount=2