“This is not about politics … if it were about politics, it would dishonor my son’s death. It’s about honor, integrity and justice,” he said.

“This news that he disobeyed his orders does not surprise me. My son was an American hero, and he had the moral strength to do what was right … even if it would have professionally cost him his job, even if it would have cost him his life.”

Woods went on to say that while he forgives those who gave the orders that indirectly led to his son’s death, he wishes they would take a lesson from the young former SEAL’s courage.

The interview speaks for itself, so I’ll let it. I honor Tyrone Woods’ sacrifice, and after hearing his father speak, I’m not surprised he raised a hero.

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The unraveling of this SNAFU has proven serious enough for us to start posting plenty of info on our FB page.
We’re furious enough to say FU to any and all backlash !!
When I saw the time allotted this story on the alphabets, one HAS to know there are MANY out there who have NO IDEA what this is all about !
Just shared this interview link .. Getting nothing from the libbies, but plenty from our righty friends !!
Completely repulsed by this !!!

pambi on October 26, 2012 at 4:18 PM

exactly what i was saying! if only more americans knew that all of this was going on. we need to be the ones to do it. we need to be loud about this and RAISE HELL. spread this stuff all over the internet! tell your friends face to face. SPEAK UP! do not let the obama administration get away with lying and tricking the american people- they want us to be ignorant. the last thing they want is to see a bunch of people spreading the word about their lies.

If that were my boy there isn’t a Secret Service guy on Earth who could move fast enough to keep me from pounding my fist through the back of Joe’s skull taking him straight home directly from the ramp.

Bishop on October 26, 2012 at 4:13 PM

Don’t let ‘em use the boy for a photo op and then make offensive comments which add insult to injury. That’s just me, though.

The next flaming pile of excuse will be that the decision makers were misinformed about the immediacy of the situation. Which will, of course, be followed by a debunking of said pile of excuse within 24 hours. We have 11 days left until the election, so we will hear 11 more flaming piles of excuses to come.

“Blackfive: A US Troop Would Not Have Been Painting a Target Unless There Was a Spectre or Armed Predator In the Air to Fire On It

Now that he points this out, it’s obvious– a laser designator isn’t a weapon. It’s a designator which a flying weapons platform sees and then strikes.

A SEAL wouldn’t just be pointing a laser designator at a target for shits and giggles. If there were no platform in the air that could fire on the target, he wouldn’t be pointing a laser designator at the target. He’d be pointing a gun.

So there was almost certainly a platform capable of firing the weapon in the air….

And further: At that point, only two men would have been in a position to veto the strike.

The AFRICON command, or the President.

Rush has an interview with a Special Operations planner who says that in an in extremis situation, as the attack on Libya was, the good guys would not have needed an explicit order to protect US personnel. Their standing general orders to protect US citizens and personnel would have already enabled them to act, absent a contrary order.

Only a negative order would have stopped them.

The Rush interview is well worth listening to. The guy calling in is obviously what he claims to be (unless he’s some kind of virtuouso faker who can fluently explain details of Special Operations planning and protocols). -Acehttp://minx.cc/?post=334282

“This news that he disobeyed his orders does not surprise me. My son was an American hero, and he had the moral strength to do what was right … even if it would have professionally cost him his job, even if it would have cost him his life.”

Even so, my understanding is disobeying an order is not what got him killed.

He was ordered not to help rescue Stevens and other diplomatic personnel at the consulate. He tried anyway and managed to rescue several people. He brought them to the annex which also came under spontaneous protest terrorist assault. That’s where he was killed several hours later, while defending the annex from the spontaneous protest terrorist assault.

This isn’t a SNAFU. This is damned downright dirty cowardice on the part of our islam-loving chief executive and his criminal cartel of yes men.

Woods and the others did exactly what they were in Libya to do…ultimately pleading for support against a radical islamer attack that was initially going on a mile away at the Consulate…but they ended up being betrayed by a cowardly president…who obviously put gaining points with his crazy radical islamers over maintaining the safety of his countrymen who were obviously up to their ashes in crazed moslem bad guys.

Obama denied these men the minimal support that they could have gotten from (1) 2 drones on the scene, and (2) an AC-130 Gunship that could have wasted the moslem mortar crews that were causing havoc at both U.S. facilities.

Another heroic dude at the CIA “safe house” pinpointed the mortar crews which could have been instantly churned into dog food by either an armed drone and it’s missiles, or the guns on the AC-130, which was also on the scene a bit later in the fray.

NO…some political hack, most likely the cowardly appeaser in the Oval Office, or White House Situation Room, was afraid, probably terrified, to order the assets on the scene, ground and air, to kill the damned moslem nut-jobs.

No. There is only one cowardly ***hole responsible for the deaths of these fine, brave American security dudes. It is Barack Hussein Mohammed Obama – the best man that al-Queda has in the White House.

All these worthless, filthy pigs; Obama, Biden, Rice, Clinton, Panetta, Patreaus, et al are just trying to stall until after the election with as little damage as possible to the precious administration, win at all costs. They could care less about our fine American citizens like Mr. Woods, Mr. Stevens and the others killed while valiantly trying to hold on until help arrived, which of course, never came.

This infuriates me to no end. This administration is the most corrupt, optic minded, empty-suit filled, scummy anti-american, bunch of slimy, sell-out hacks I’ve ever witnessed in my 50 years on this planet. I hope they all roast in he!! for selling out our nation, our troops and our citizens doing “our” bidding in hostile lands.

Unfortunately Mr Woods does not realize that his son was not a priority for Barry on that particular day. Barry had to get out to Vegas and do some campaigning.

In a lot of ways, Barry is just like the Clintons. When it comes to raising campaign MONEY, nothing else matters. I’m sure this was another occasion when Barry believed it better ‘to sleep on it’, rather then make a rash decision.

In all of this, one point stands out. That the National Command Authority failed. At every chance, to do the right and proper course of action, somebody looked the other way, passed the buck upward, or walked. At the beginning I knew that this was bad, and was going to get really ugly real fast. I will tell you, the contempt for the President and his team(including the Sec. of Defense and Director of National Intelligence, and the Director of Central Intelligence, and of course the Sec. of State) is at in all time high. Neither Generals Ham nor Mathis would ever leave a man behind. Both would move heaven and earth to get the NCA to act. That both COs of major commands were denied, speaks volumes. After the election, all will come out, and when it does……

Maybe they’d rather not throw around words or behave in a way at this time that might cost them seats in congress and the presidential election that happens in 11 days.

xblade on October 26, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Right. This needs to marinate and stew in its own juices for awhile.

Obama has yet to receive a visit from the ghost of Nixon past, but that should be in the next week. Waiting right behind him is the ghost of Romney present, scheduled to visit the night of Nov. 6. But by then it will be too late. This will be followed by the ghost of Jimmah future every night for years after that.

Sen. Lindsey Graham Paraphrasing Obama’s remarks about Mitt Romney to Rolling Stone, Graham said, “In the words of President Obama, this statement sounds like a lot of B.S.”

“In an effort to look strong, this Administration has strategically leaked classified information about numerous sensitive national security programs, ranging from the raid on bin Laden, the cyber-attacks on Iran, to disrupting the underwear bomber plot. The President has also refused to appoint a special counsel to investigate breaches of national security, while demanding it for others in past administrations,” Graham continued.

“These leaks have created distrust amongst our allies and damaged operations in the field. Fearful that the reality on the ground in Benghazi cuts against the narrative that al-Qaeda has been dismantled, the Administration has been cherry-picking intelligence and intentionally misleading the American people. There was no mob, there was no riot. This was a preplanned attack by al-Qaeda affiliated militia.”

The senator noted he’s been waiting nearly two weeks for any scrap of requested information on the attacks from top intelligence officials.

“The President promised transparency, an unveiling of details regarding the Benghazi attack, but they have done nothing but stonewall the American people and their elected representatives,” Graham said.

Breaking news on Benghazi: the CIA spokesman, presumably at the direction of CIA director David Petraeus, has put out this statement: “No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. ”

LMFAO – you guys expect the house to stop all business and investigate this thing – start issuing subpoenas and demanding the presence of the actual witnesses to testify in an open session of congress? Then ACT on the information they receive and impeach?

Nope. They won’t. Oh yeah, GOP is willing to hype all you conservative slaves up into a lather for blood – but that’s only to get you to the polls to vote for their emaciated eunuch of a Presidential candidate. They’ll never do their job though and actually provide OVERSIGHT on this fiasco. They’re too chicken-sh*t. Say I’m wrong. They did the same thing with Brian Terry – been investigating his death for what now? A couple of years? NOTHING DONE!!

Meanwhile – Crybaby Johnny Boehner is still funding the BATF and the State Department.

This is hilarious people. You have a right to be upset – but you need to also be just as upset at the GOP.

Breaking news on Benghazi: the CIA spokesman, presumably at the direction of CIA director David Petraeus, has put out this statement: “No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. ”

farsighted on October 26, 2012 at 6:38 PM

And that’s true on a number of levels. When an ambassador is in peril, a person who directly represents the President, the only person who can call off standing orders of the military (to save Americans in peril) is POTUS, and particularly if the standing orders involve entry into a foreign country. That is why he and Panetta met at 5 pm on 9/11, and obviously help was denied at that time.

The CIA, in other words, had no jurisdiction to call off the help that was requested, so Petraeus has thrown Obama under the bus, and very obviously so.

Why is there no reporting in the LSM of the disgusting and inappropriate question that Joe Biden asked the father of Tyrone Woods at the ceremony receiving his son’s body?If true,then Biden should have to undergo psychological testing to prove he is fit to continue serving in his office.

This is hilarious people. You have a right to be upset – but you need to also be just as upset at the GOP.

HondaV65 on October 26, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Fast & Furious isn’t hilariouswhether it happens in Mexico and results in the death of Brian Terry & 300+ Mexican citizens or whether it happens in the Middle East when it results in the death of 4 Americans including Ambassador Stevens and who knows how many citizens at the hands of Al Queda who now have those weapons.

I heard that after running over to the consulate he rescued several people and was only killed later at the annex. The mortars, which were illuminated by the drone were targeted on the annex and according to the info at AoS (and Rush) could have been taken out. Moreover, it seems to have been established that it’s virtually certain that the purpose of Obama’s 5pm meeting would have been to make that decision.

My hear breaks for Mr. Woods and the other victims families…especially the last 2 killed, the navy seals…they could of been saved..they battled for many hours with no help..abandoned it’s criminal, treasonous what is going on here..I knew Obama would be a disaster as the POTUS but had no idea he would be THIS bad..F & F and now this..i know it’s impossible to impeach him now and other people in his administration but i want to see criminal action brought against them after they get kicked out of office by US!

If Obama squeaks back into office somehow, this disgraceful disaster and its horrific handling by the Obama Administration will be Barry’s uber-Watergate and shall destroy him as surely as Nixon’s presidency was destroyed by his own cover-up.

Benghazigate is far, far worse, though.

Obama better hope he loses the election.

It’s the only way he’ll avoid disgrace and the loss of his entire “legacy”.

Then resign, dammit! Petraeus has allowed himself to be just another pawn in this sorry excuse for an administration. Petraeus already has his exclusive, and quite lucrative, retirement and bennies. Off to the private sector with you … NOW, General or just STFU.
By staying on, Petraeus only diminishes what’s left of his honor and integrity.
A real man’s integrity is NOT for sale at any price.
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“This news that he disobeyed his orders does not surprise me. My son was an American hero, and he had the moral strength to do what was right … even if it would have professionally cost him his job, even if it would have cost him his life.”

On Fox last night, someone said Tyrone Woods saved a lot of people over that evening, and as his dad says it makes him an American hero, with Jennifer Griffin saying the same. The statement is still blurry to me, I hope Fox gets more of the journalism done in updating their special so we know how many were going to be left behind that night.

Why pay for airplanes that can “land on ships” (Potus) and take off again, why send anyone to a dangerous country like Libya and then tell them they will have to defend themselves and that the forces will politely Stand Down if you have trouble?

I continue to speculate in the lack of information forthcoming on this Assasination of our American Ambassador in Libya on the Anniversay of 9-11.

Anyone seen Navy report they just replaced our Admiral in charge for ME Fleet for undisclosed reasons and pending “investigation”. The only bit they provided is that he “made inappropriate decision”.

I am almost willing to bet this is somehow tied to Benghazi, may be an attempt ti silence one more source who most likely not only watched Benghazi in real time with the rest of the crooks, but probably wanted to do something about the attack that did not fit with Hussein’s plans. Would be interesting to see Fox News interview the Admiral.

B.S. For the establishment media to press for an impeachment, the president has to be a REPUBLICAN. They would go after a President Herman Cain in a heartbeat. Democratic politicians get a pass to do pretty much everything illegal and corrupt, regardless of race.

When you look at the strength, courage, and integrity that Tyrone Woods showed when he was defending the consulate against the jihadi assault, the first thought is to wonder “where does our country get heroes such as this?”

Then, once you hear his dad speak, you realize that the apple did not fall very far from the tree.

And kudos to Denver’s (KUSA) Kyle Clark for putting the questions to the President that the Washington Press Corps (Corpse?) fear to voice. At least some self-described journalists have come to realize that they are not watching “The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance” but “Blazing Saddles” instead. This is not to say that Mr. Obama should be considered as competent a President as Cleavon Little is an actor; in fact, he would probably have been cast as Mongo. Rest in peace Alex Karras.