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Nimrodel's 'Second best' Kinship downs Jagger Jack!

In case you weren't sure we were second best, Namaste has downed Jagger Jack.

To date no other kinship on the US servers have done this and it is, of course, a server first. We also ran this with no Burgler just to make things more interesting. Shout outs go to Madhy, Taelia, Xealwyn, Rivawen, Zalean, Darenthelion, Ceifwien, Cerulian, Xximli, Diadochi, Zaphor, Lucianblaze, Elochai, Epicpirate, and myself for the awesome accomplishment.

Re: Nimrodel's 'Second best' Kinship downs Jagger Jack!

It is so easy just ask the other kinships on this server that have done it... oh wait...

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Re: Nimrodel's 'Second best' Kinship downs Jagger Jack!

Used to be, the best, 2nd best, worst, what have you, seemed to be a communally agreed upon thing. I'm sure Legends bitched when TABA said they were the best and what not, but it had to do with accomplishments and talent, not with who yelled the loudest.

When Legends was "the best" it was because they beat the hardest content first because they had skilled players who worked the hardest. When Legends fell out of that place it was because Vengeance worked harder, beat new content faster, and did it before anyone else on the server.

Somewhere along the line, someone got the crazy idea that if a kin that "used to be" "the best" lost a few members, not only were they not the best, they didn't even exist anymore. As no new content with the chance to give some other kin bragging rights has come along, scaling down numbers or trying content no one else has done before becomes the mark for who's the best. But really, it's just a pissing contest.

You want the throne, wait for the new raid to come out, and like every other time, we'll see who gets there first. Given Madhy's history with running kins, maybe if we're lucky Vengeance will still have some competition if you guys can last another month without crumbling.

Re: Nimrodel's 'Second best' Kinship downs Jagger Jack!

Originally Posted by Balthinor

Used to be, the best, 2nd best, worst, what have you, seemed to be a communally agreed upon thing. I'm sure Legends bitched when TABA said they were the best and what not, but it had to do with accomplishments and talent, not with who yelled the loudest.

When Legends was "the best" it was because they beat the hardest content first because they had skilled players who worked the hardest. When Legends fell out of that place it was because Vengeance worked harder, beat new content faster, and did it before anyone else on the server.

Somewhere along the line, someone got the crazy idea that if a kin that "used to be" "the best" lost a few members, not only were they not the best, they didn't even exist anymore. As no new content with the chance to give some other kin bragging rights has come along, scaling down numbers or trying content no one else has done before becomes the mark for who's the best. But really, it's just a pissing contest.

You want the throne, wait for the new raid to come out, and like every other time, we'll see who gets there first. Given Madhy's history with running kins, maybe if we're lucky Vengeance will still have some competition if you guys can last another month without crumbling.

Last I checked Namaste worked harder and got LT HM 6 man down first. The thought that you guys just "lost a few members" is quite amusing. Doing BO HM was not the act of a "dead" kinship but a slowly dying one that refuses to give in. Given Vengeance's history of retaining members, perhaps you'll actually put a raid together for the new content and give some competition again. However, if you wait 3 years after it is released, spam GLFF and then start a forum thread about it, expect a simular response. Did you ever stop to think that you blatently displaying butthurt was exactly the response the OP was looking for?

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Re: Nimrodel's 'Second best' Kinship downs Jagger Jack!

Originally Posted by Balthinor

Used to be, the best, 2nd best, worst, what have you, seemed to be a communally agreed upon thing. I'm sure Legends bitched when TABA said they were the best and what not, but it had to do with accomplishments and talent, not with who yelled the loudest.

When Legends was "the best" it was because they beat the hardest content first because they had skilled players who worked the hardest. When Legends fell out of that place it was because Vengeance worked harder, beat new content faster, and did it before anyone else on the server.

Somewhere along the line, someone got the crazy idea that if a kin that "used to be" "the best" lost a few members, not only were they not the best, they didn't even exist anymore. As no new content with the chance to give some other kin bragging rights has come along, scaling down numbers or trying content no one else has done before becomes the mark for who's the best. But really, it's just a pissing contest.

You want the throne, wait for the new raid to come out, and like every other time, we'll see who gets there first. Given Madhy's history with running kins, maybe if we're lucky Vengeance will still have some competition if you guys can last another month without crumbling.

Dan... you need to read through your posts before you post them... all I got was bla bla aussies left bla bla

Re: Nimrodel's 'Second best' Kinship downs Jagger Jack!

Dawlin, considering the caliber player I believed you to be, I would definitely expect more class and a basic shred of intelligence out of you.

Balthinor simply has a lot of pride for the kin he has been for years, and when stories of our kinship's death came about, he as well as all of us took it very hard.

You can make as many statements as you want, but you have no idea what goes on in our kin. We have exactly the same amount active that we have had since I joined the kin in Mines of Moria. We still run anything end-game content without issue, and have some extraordinary players in the kin as well.

Personally, I would never take anything away from the Namaste 6-Man LT fight. A hell of an achievement. But you belittle it when you make middle school comments about matters that you could not be farther from.

Re: Nimrodel's 'Second best' Kinship downs Jagger Jack!

Dawlin, considering the caliber player I believed you to be, I would definitely expect more class and a basic shred of intelligence out of you.

Balthinor simply has a lot of pride for the kin he has been for years, and when stories of our kinship's death came about, he as well as all of us took it very hard.

You can make as many statements as you want, but you have no idea what goes on in our kin. We have exactly the same amount active that we have had since I joined the kin in Mines of Moria. We still run anything end-game content without issue, and have some extraordinary players in the kin as well.

Personally, I would never take anything away from the Namaste 6-Man LT fight. A hell of an achievement. But you belittle it when you make middle school comments about matters that you could not be farther from.

Are you really implying that members of your kin were not belittling Namaste? I never initiate insults or attacks on others, but when a direct attack is made on a fellow kinny I will never hesitate to point out the Hypocrisy and flaws in said attacks.

EDIT: and considering the caliber player I believe you to be, this is the exact kind of mindless drivel I expected.

Last edited by Coger_Dark; Feb 14 2011 at 03:08 AM.

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Re: Nimrodel's 'Second best' Kinship downs Jagger Jack!

Originally Posted by Coger_Dark

Last I checked Namaste worked harder and got LT HM 6 man down first. The thought that you guys just "lost a few members" is quite amusing. Doing BO HM was not the act of a "dead" kinship but a slowly dying one that refuses to give in. Given Vengeance's history of retaining members, perhaps you'll actually put a raid together for the new content and give some competition again. However, if you wait 3 years after it is released, spam GLFF and then start a forum thread about it, expect a simular response. Did you ever stop to think that you blatently displaying butthurt was exactly the response the OP was looking for?

Don't know if you were around back then, but when the Rift was the big thing, TABA reigned supreme because they took down the Rog first. Vengeance rolled in and 6 manned it (server 2nd) and didn't claim to be best because we weren't yet. Then we did the only server Thorog no-fly kill and didn't claim to be best because we still weren't yet.

As for our member retention, we'll be on this server three years as of March 13th, and we'll outlast every De Garuda, Honor and Glory, Namaste, or whatever other spin off kin Madhy's spawned with almost all of our core members being here for 2+ years. You got the people that left us because you were the only other game in town, so grats on that.

Should the new cluster come out and find you beating us to the end first, I'll admit to sitting second fiddle, but that would still mean we were first or second through three straight raids, and in my mind, that's the only place I'd want to be.