Oak juice, colored red. Actually it had a rather nice red fruit nose at first, but after 10 minutes of air I couldn't even drink the stuff. More oak than a pointy California Cabernet. At least it was only $11 I poured down the drain. Opened a 2000 ESJ Los Robles Viejos to console myself.

Doug

If God didn't want me to eat animals, why did He make them out of meat?

Careful with some of the Muga wines, though. A recent 2001 Muga Rioja Reserve was very oaky, much more new wood flavor than the '99 version seemed, at least to me. Maybe it needs more time. The Torre Muga bottling also seems to be pretty heavy with new wood. Maybe better to try the Muga Prado Enea.

You're right, Mark- The 2001 Muga Reserva is oaky, but I have faith it will come around with 8-10 years. A lot of Rioja producers have modern cuvees - Riscal has the Baron de Chirel, Murrieta has the Dalmau, Contino has the Vina del Olivio, Cune has the Real de Asua, Muga has the Torre Muga and Aro. Of the producers I listed, the only guys who don't have one are Riojanas, RLdH, and La Rioja Alta.