Oh so, the people between 18 to 24 voted to remain, ok, it's their future, ok, the people mostly above from 50 to 60 something decided to leave, ok,
they were the ones that actually witnessed how the EU did to the UK in the first place! Also, thats why it is a democracy every vote counts the same,
independent of age...

originally posted by: CrastneyJPR
a reply to: Denoli
would you kick out all the british born benefit scroungers too? those who live off the dole as it pays more than getting a job?
...
no?
didn't think so.

If it pays more than having a job then that's because mass immigration of cheap labor has driven down the wage so far that it pays more to be on
unemployment benefit.

Congratulations on your independence, Great Britain! Well done!
It's fun to watch the antidemocratic rats and cockroaches in the UK and the rest of Europe scurry around in a frantic damage control mode.

originally posted by: CrastneyJPR
a reply to: Denoli
would you kick out all the british born benefit scroungers too? those who live off the dole as it pays more than getting a job?
...
no?
didn't think so.

If it pays more than having a job then that's because mass immigration of cheap labor has driven down the wage so far that it pays more to be on
unemployment benefit.

Very well said and it's the migrants who is causing us to lose what we worked so hard for .workers rights have gone down the swanny because they don't
give a # how long they work and for how little .

originally posted by: Uberus
I don't think the UK tought this trough.. Scotland already wants to separate to stay in EU, N-Ireland will want to do the same thing.
EEurope will just change it's focus to the east and ask for import taxes from the UK the UK will have to agree, because they live on an island.
They cannot ask for import taxes or life would become a lot more expensive for the Brits..
I feel bad for the young people there who voted NO, it's the old people who voted yes and who made the Brexit reality. Old people will die and the
youth will have to live with their decisions

Example:
If I ran a company in France and made a "Nut & Bolt" for 2p and sold it to UK for 5p yesterday - then I'd still want to make it for 2p and sell it to
UK for 5p today. If my "French government ( under EU directive ) now wanted to TAX UK and make it cost 7p then that UK customer would go elsewhere
where he can buy for 5p and I would not have a sale !
I would be one pissed off Frenchman if that happened !!

It's not a case of whinging. The arguments for Britain leaving the EU and Scotland leaving the UK are very similar. People just seem to want
power/authority/sovereignty devolved to a national level and away from structures which are faceless, out of touch and undemocratic. As Englishmen can
describe Brussels in such terms, so can many Scots when it comes to Westminster. That's just the way it is.

It's weird, so many people on here were very vocal about the potential consequences to the Scottish economy in the event of an independence Yes vote,
yet now they couldn't care less about the the very same consequences, happening right now in tbe City of London as we sit here reading this thread.

I wouldn't dare wish to step down into the gutter you inhabit but some folk on here ... English to a man ... are just two faced gits.

Yep, a lot of whingers in this thread whinging about Scotland. They can't even celebrate their own victory without finding some reason to b*tch at the
Scots. Sad lot.

My Welsh and German friends shook their heads when they heard the news.

What happened today is a demonstration of ignorance. The value of the pound is now at a thirty year low and the plebs voted without knowing the
economic ripple effect; Hang Seng, Wall street, ASX...Those who voted never heeded the warnings of the many economists from around the world and
pulled what I would call an "Op Spock".

The Scots will regret the day they voted against independence because they are now on a sinking ship. A friend of mine who is picketing was left
speechless when I told him the news and I don't blame him; IMO members of the commonwealth should jump ship from the HMAS Corgi.

originally posted by: Thecakeisalie
My Welsh and German friends shook their heads when they heard the news.

What happened today is a demonstration of ignorance. The value of the pound is now at a thirty year low and the plebs voted without knowing the
economic ripple effect; Hang Seng, Wall street, ASX...Those who voted never heeded the warnings of the many economists from around the world and
pulled what I would call an "Op Spock".

The Scots will regret the day they voted against independence because they are now on a sinking ship. A friend of mine who is picketing was left
speechless when I told him the news and I don't blame him; IMO members of the commonwealth should jump ship from the HMAS Corgi.

Hi all. Joining this discussion a little late but here's my view, for what it's worth -

I'm Scottish, and I voted NO to independence from the UK.

I then voted Tory (conservative).

I recently voted LEAVE the European Union.

As you could imagine this morning I was (and still am) extremely happy. I felt like it was Christmas day. I could of cried. But I'm a typical bloke
and just went about my day as normal.

Then we have that bloody witch Nicola Sturgeon demand a second independence referendum (from the UK) just to hang a cloud over Scotland again for the
next 2 years just at the exact time our economy desperately needs to stabalise following the EU referendum.

I am a proud Scot, just as I am a proud Brit. I am however completely ashamed of Scotlands elected and I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry.

This is the first time in my life I've been happy about a political occurrence!
Distrust of mainstream politics isn't limited to freaky web forums anymore. 52% of the electorate voted against what all the establishment politicians
and economists told them to do. I wish I'd been there to join in.

Anyone posting nonsense about "Britain's economy will collapse", you're getting your financial info from the same people who gave us "The Single
Currency is a good idea" and "Austerity will solve this crisis". At this point you might want to turn up your ignorance denier.

It seems that the going argument or implication is that Brits made a mistake because the markets dropped, and the markets dropped because the Brits
made a mistake. But the markets dropped because of uncertainty, which is the very same reason the critics are angry and fearful.

I think this is a huge victory for the people - the people spoke regardless of Government, Corporations or how other countries would like to see it.
They will deal with the outcome their way and will make it regardless.

They did what most people could not envision - take back their country.

This is a huge victory for the western world and hopefully an inspiration for other countries that the people never stand below Governments,
Corporations, Banks, etc - but very high above them!

Congrats Brits for making this move in our modern times!

Also it was about time that people come back to sanity and realize that the European Union is a failed concept that put too many countries on the
brink of bankruptcy while fostering bigger countries - almost like country slaves ..

originally posted by: ipsedixit
A quick sampling of Chinese opinion on line shows a welcoming of the Brexit victory and a desire for bilateral trade agreements between China and
Britain.

I think in places like China and Russia, this is seen as the beginning of the end of American hegemony. They are happy about this and will probably do
the sort of deals with Britain that will encourage others to get out from under American dominance. I'm not sure that is a good thing in the long run
but we will likely witness new kinds of relationships out of this political earthquake.

China is excited because it can now deal with the UK alone which gives it a much better position to dictate terms. Kind of the way they treat Russia
because Russia. China loves to take advantage on nations that are dire straights. Of course it is likely that the UK will sign some sort of mutual
trade agreement with the EU that would bind them together in trade talks with others to avoid this problem. Of course then the question becomes again
why leave the EU at all if your just going sign a bunch of agreements that puts you back in with them in all but name? And if the UK does not do
that, can they adjust to much more austere life style?

This said I will add that even the people of UK wanted to stay in EU the Hidden Hand would manipulate the vote and fix it anyway.

ridiculous. None of the big players wanted this. Big players want more not less meat on the "market". Why do you mean the EU is constantly expanding ?
Goodness of their hearts ? No man...it's about meat for the grinder.

This said I will add that even the people of UK wanted to stay in EU the Hidden Hand would manipulate the vote and fix it anyway.

ridiculous. None of the big players wanted this. Big players want more not less meat on the "market". Why do you mean the EU is constantly expanding ?
Goodness of their hearts ? No man...it's about meat for the grinder.

I would admit that your opinion makes sense. Alas, you might want to review the time-scope of your beliefs. Basically In my humble personal opinion,
which is backed by one of he most insightful journalists in my country, your beliefs are out-timed by more urgent maneuvers on the Geo-political
scene. The current affairs are with aim:

Demolish EU.
Recreate it while redirecting its service to the current needs they have

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