ref? what's ref? XDDDD And... er... I don't really think my drawings and frames are good ^^U but well.. I suppose it's about practice... you just have to imagine the scene and think "which angle would make a great frame?" and if you are lucky you'll be able to draw it XDDDDDDD But to learn to draw you have to practice very much, you should see my pictures from a few years ago XDD or even from a month ^^U Also, it helps to copy other's drawings so you can understand the bodys and creases nature ^^