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The MAROON V 01.64, No. 11 Loyola University, New Orleans, Louisiana 70118 November 15, 1985 Law students seek secession, fees from SGA By Judi Hymel News Editor The law school's Student Government Association delegation is circulating a petition to withdraw the law school from the SGA. The petition also asks that the law students' $20 SGA fee be given to the Student Bar Association to fund projects of interest to law students. "Law students are not interested in the SGA because they are older and their interests and lifestyles are different," Frank Olivier, an SGA law school representative and author of the petition, said. The distance and separation created by the law school's move to the Broadway Campus in January will create more apathy, he said. Although four SGA positions are open to law students, only two students ran this past spring — both unopposed. Olivier said he expects even less law student participation in SGA once the law school moves. Mike Tifft, the law school's SGA delegation president and co-author of the petition, said law students should get back all the money they pay in SGA fees. "Every year we wind up trying to get the money we pay, but 1 don't think we get the proper share back," he said. If 450 students sign the petition, Olivier said, the SBA would sponsor the withdrawal and would possibly introduce the law school's resolution to SGA. He said that about 350 students had signed the petition as of Wednesday and that if the quota was not met by the end of next week, the issue would be out of his hands and open to anyone who wanted to continue his effort. According to Byron Arthur, SGA president, if the resolution is presented, congress must first amend its constitution which states that representatives of the SGA must come from the five colleges of the university — the law school being one - before it can vote on the withdrawal. Two-thirds of congress must approve a constitutional amendment. Arthur said he could not predict how the congress would vote if the issue came up. "Congress has mixed emotions about the law school because some members see them as a hinderance to the process because they want courtesies without justification," he said. "The law school is always trying to circumvent the rules and regulations — they are always trying to test us." If the iaw students withdraw from the SGA and take their student fees with them, the SGA would lose about $13,640. Arthur said this loss would hurt large-scale university programming. The SBA could do no more than what the SGA is doing for students, Arthur said. "The programming is always done with the entire university in mind," he said. "You get back the $20 if you take advantage of the programs. They're too stubborn and shortsighted to take advantage of these things." The withdrawal of the law students from the SGA would further divide the law school from the rest of university, Arthur said. "A move to pull out of the SGA wouldn't be wise, but I wouldn't cry if we lost them," he said. *The Maroon1 will not publish Friday, Nov. 22. Publication will resume Tuesday, Nov. 26. Air rockers Jumping at the chance to live out their musical fantasies, Loyola's version of the Go-Go's performed "Our Lips Are Sealed" during the union- sponsored Air Band Contest. Three groups participated in the contest. Below, judges Judy Hutchinson and Beth Gettys react to the proceedings. —Photo by John McCusker Damage to dorms increasing By Elinor Finley Staff writer Dormitory vandalism has increased drastically this year, according to Jim Pappenhagen, head of Facilities Improvement and assistant director for Residential Operations. Damage in the common areas of the dorms, such as lobbies, elevators and hallways, is increasing, he said. "The difference in the damages is that we're seeing more big ticket items than in the past," Kevin Foley, assistant director for Residential Development, said. Items such as dorm ceiling tiles have had to be replaced regularly, but last week an elevator panel in Biever Hall was pulled out of the wall, costing about $500 in repairs, Pappenhagen said. "Vandalism is moving in a new direction," he said. "I don't think these are singular acts. It seems to be done in a group." Although he does not have evidence, Foley said he thinks pledges from the former Pi Kappa Theta fraternity, permanently banned from campus last year, are being asked to vandalize the halls. "I think the message is 'Screw you Knipfing, Reed, Foley, Pappenhagen, Loyola,' " Foley said. Even if the actions are not PKT-related, Foley said he is convinced the vandalism is intentional. Most of the reported property damage has been on the second, third and fourth floors of Biever Hall. Pappenhagen estimated the costs of this year's damages in the common areas alone to be about $4,000 or an average of $10 per resident. "If we could pinpoint who is doing it, we could split them up. It's just a handful of people that are causing this hassle for everyone," Foley said. Robert Reed, director of Residential Life, said students can use peer influence to stop the vandals. Pappenhagen agreed, saying, "Students should tell these people that although it may seem like fun now, we all end up paying for it." See Damage /page 5

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The MAROON V 01.64, No. 11 Loyola University, New Orleans, Louisiana 70118 November 15, 1985 Law students seek secession, fees from SGA By Judi Hymel News Editor The law school's Student Government Association delegation is circulating a petition to withdraw the law school from the SGA. The petition also asks that the law students' $20 SGA fee be given to the Student Bar Association to fund projects of interest to law students. "Law students are not interested in the SGA because they are older and their interests and lifestyles are different," Frank Olivier, an SGA law school representative and author of the petition, said. The distance and separation created by the law school's move to the Broadway Campus in January will create more apathy, he said. Although four SGA positions are open to law students, only two students ran this past spring — both unopposed. Olivier said he expects even less law student participation in SGA once the law school moves. Mike Tifft, the law school's SGA delegation president and co-author of the petition, said law students should get back all the money they pay in SGA fees. "Every year we wind up trying to get the money we pay, but 1 don't think we get the proper share back," he said. If 450 students sign the petition, Olivier said, the SBA would sponsor the withdrawal and would possibly introduce the law school's resolution to SGA. He said that about 350 students had signed the petition as of Wednesday and that if the quota was not met by the end of next week, the issue would be out of his hands and open to anyone who wanted to continue his effort. According to Byron Arthur, SGA president, if the resolution is presented, congress must first amend its constitution which states that representatives of the SGA must come from the five colleges of the university — the law school being one - before it can vote on the withdrawal. Two-thirds of congress must approve a constitutional amendment. Arthur said he could not predict how the congress would vote if the issue came up. "Congress has mixed emotions about the law school because some members see them as a hinderance to the process because they want courtesies without justification," he said. "The law school is always trying to circumvent the rules and regulations — they are always trying to test us." If the iaw students withdraw from the SGA and take their student fees with them, the SGA would lose about $13,640. Arthur said this loss would hurt large-scale university programming. The SBA could do no more than what the SGA is doing for students, Arthur said. "The programming is always done with the entire university in mind," he said. "You get back the $20 if you take advantage of the programs. They're too stubborn and shortsighted to take advantage of these things." The withdrawal of the law students from the SGA would further divide the law school from the rest of university, Arthur said. "A move to pull out of the SGA wouldn't be wise, but I wouldn't cry if we lost them," he said. *The Maroon1 will not publish Friday, Nov. 22. Publication will resume Tuesday, Nov. 26. Air rockers Jumping at the chance to live out their musical fantasies, Loyola's version of the Go-Go's performed "Our Lips Are Sealed" during the union- sponsored Air Band Contest. Three groups participated in the contest. Below, judges Judy Hutchinson and Beth Gettys react to the proceedings. —Photo by John McCusker Damage to dorms increasing By Elinor Finley Staff writer Dormitory vandalism has increased drastically this year, according to Jim Pappenhagen, head of Facilities Improvement and assistant director for Residential Operations. Damage in the common areas of the dorms, such as lobbies, elevators and hallways, is increasing, he said. "The difference in the damages is that we're seeing more big ticket items than in the past," Kevin Foley, assistant director for Residential Development, said. Items such as dorm ceiling tiles have had to be replaced regularly, but last week an elevator panel in Biever Hall was pulled out of the wall, costing about $500 in repairs, Pappenhagen said. "Vandalism is moving in a new direction," he said. "I don't think these are singular acts. It seems to be done in a group." Although he does not have evidence, Foley said he thinks pledges from the former Pi Kappa Theta fraternity, permanently banned from campus last year, are being asked to vandalize the halls. "I think the message is 'Screw you Knipfing, Reed, Foley, Pappenhagen, Loyola,' " Foley said. Even if the actions are not PKT-related, Foley said he is convinced the vandalism is intentional. Most of the reported property damage has been on the second, third and fourth floors of Biever Hall. Pappenhagen estimated the costs of this year's damages in the common areas alone to be about $4,000 or an average of $10 per resident. "If we could pinpoint who is doing it, we could split them up. It's just a handful of people that are causing this hassle for everyone," Foley said. Robert Reed, director of Residential Life, said students can use peer influence to stop the vandals. Pappenhagen agreed, saying, "Students should tell these people that although it may seem like fun now, we all end up paying for it." See Damage /page 5