once thing confusing me. already 3 mods directly or indirectly showed that they didn't participate in Mike's permaban, shouldn't such "big" decisions be brought by unanimous decision or just admins bringing decision between them ?

ok im at home, im without words, i didnt read back here i want just say my thoughts

mike was warning, but sure i dont think he deserved a pernban, respect other kind of posters, plus 3 red in how many years/posts?
maybe some rules should be changed or just get them in a wise way
there are unfair bans,as mike and as Jani...honestly i was already posting few here after we talked abt that Javi, now i dont think i ll get the 100.000 duncan

once thing confusing me. already 3 mods directly or indirectly showed that they didn't participate in Mike's permaban, shouldn't such "big" decisions be brought by unanimous decision or just admins bringing decision between them ?

Confusion about the moderation rules and standards?

Yeah. There should be transcripts of these deliberations we all could read.

ok im at home, im without words, i didnt read back here i want just say my thoughts

mike was warning, but sure i dont think he deserved a pernban, respect other kind of posters, plus 3 red in how many years/posts?
maybe some rules should be changed or just get them in a wise way
there are unfair bans,as mike and as Jani...honestly i was already posting few here after we talked abt that Javi, now i dont think i ll get the 100.000 duncan

i dont add nothing more, just mark my disappoint

yeah, you think they are unfair because you both like them. I like Mike too but come on how many times did we warn him?

Everyone over here makes it the fault of the entire moderation team, while the first one to blame is Mike himself....
of course it's a shame the penultimate ban came with a not so heavy post but still Mike didn't change his behaviour.

yeah, you think they are unfair because you both like them. I like Mike too but come on how many times did we warn him?

Everyone over here makes it the fault of the entire moderation team, while the first one to blame is Mike himself....
of course it's a shame the penultimate ban came with a not so heavy post but still Mike didn't change his behaviour.

I agree that the rules should change here and there.

i knew sooner or later Mike would be permabanned, BUT the thing that is appaling for me is that posters can get away with literally nothing, even though a zillion of posters are disgusted by the post (and show that publicly on the forum), and then posts that were only written out of frustration and because of that exaggerated are considered as "discriminatory remark". THIS is the problem, and this is for my taste not objective.

i knew sooner or later Mike would be permabanned, BUT the thing that is appaling for me is that posters can get away with literally nothing, even though a zillion of posters are disgusted by the post (and show that publicly on the forum), and then posts that were only written out of frustration and because of that exaggerated are considered as "discriminatory remark". THIS is the problem, and this is for my taste not objective.

yeah, I can nothing but agree with that. there are much worser posters, especially in GM, who walk around freely and unpunished. besides that I'm not really fond of the whole permaban thing either but that point aside, maybe some people who feel 'attacked' or 'offended' should be a little more strong in those cases and not cry about every single post.

Right now we are going to have a snowball effect probably, lots of people mad because of this ban so they will be reporting more and more and if that's according to the rules the moderators should hand out more infractions as well.

yeah, I can nothing but agree with that. there are much worser posters, especially in GM, who walk around freely and unpunished. besides that I'm not really fond of the whole permaban thing either but that point aside, maybe some people who feel 'attacked' or 'offended' should be a little more strong in those cases and not cry about every single post.

Right now we are going to have a snowball effect probably, lots of people mad because of this ban so they will be reporting more and more and if that's according to the rules the moderators should hand out more infractions as well.

how would it be if the mods simply read threads and react without any earlier notification of an offensive post (aka without anybody reporting a post)? I'm quite sure that only a little fraction of the users actually uses the report button (otherwise Raging Lamb wouldn't have it in his signature), but there are often posts that are quoted by a huge part of the actual thread and those quotes show disagreement (to say it generally). So why not simply take action on a post a big part of the users in a thread disagree with?

how would it be if the mods simply read threads and react without any earlier notification of an offensive post (aka without anybody reporting a post)? I'm quite sure that only a little fraction of the users actually uses the report button (otherwise Raging Lamb wouldn't have it in his signature), but there are often posts that are quoted by a huge part of the actual thread and those quotes show disagreement (to say it generally). So why not simply take action on a post a big part of the users in a thread disagree with?

Actually that's a nice idea, but do you know how much time that takes? You can't expect the moderator team to spit through every thread and every post as a volunteer. I don't know how things are with the other moderators but I do have a life you know.

But maybe we/you can throw this idea in the "New rules" thread and see what others think about it.
By the way, Mike wasn't reported by anyone the last 2 times (in 2 weeks time) he got a ban.

Actually that's a nice idea, but do you know how much time that takes? You can't expect the moderator team to spit through every thread and every post as a volunteer. I don't know how things are with the other moderators but I do have a life you know.

But maybe we/you can throw this idea in the "New rules" thread and see what others think about it.By the way, Mike wasn't reported by anyone the last 2 times (in 2 weeks time) he got a ban.

btw, that's oh so hard, as he posted much in threads that have admins and mods as regular posters in it. To eat a ban in those threads isn't a thing of impossibility when the mods team wants to have less work.