. not the corporations, not the gun sellers and that's being missed in this debate. >> jennifer: it is, but iknowjoebidenwas out having a fireside google hang out trying to persuade, and i'm glad the administration is taking the case on the road. karl frisch, professor jason johnson thank you for joining me inside "the war room." >> thank you. >> thanks, governor. >> jennifer: you bet. in the 41 days since the tragedy at newtown, 41 days now, at least 1121 americans have died due to gun violence. of course, those who die are just a fraction of the victims of gun violence. 13-year-old gabriel clark of massachusetts is still recovering after being shot last friday. it's tragic that something so horrific could happen to someone so young but the circumstances are even worse. gabriel was walking to his church to attend choir practice when a car drove past him. someone from the car shot him in the stomach. the pastor said that gabriel told him even through the pain that god had saved his life. >> okay, so there's wiggle-room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. >> and c