but I want him healthy and 100% to truly test the Patriots' defense on December 4th. You have to beat the best to be the best

I honestly thought his choke against the Chargers in January of 2008 and Rivers' subsequent limping around courageously on a torn ACL with the coward Tomlinson simpering on the bench cost the Patriots the 2008 19-0 Super Bowl. They needed to be tested to earn a place in that Super Bowl and a Norv Turner team wasn't the thing to do it

They can hype up the Jets all they want, but the only team and player the Patriots see as a true rival is the Colts and Manning. He will be missed. It would be like Bird playing the Lakers without Magic healthy enough to play. No good.

They can hype up the Jets all they want, but the only team and player the Patriots see as a true rival is the Colts and Manning. He will be missed. It would be like Bird playing the Lakers without Magic healthy enough to play. No good.Posted by Celtics1986

as i remember it, the patriots only lost by 3 points, 18-15, when they visited the Colts' new, artificially noised stadium, on a David Thomas personal foul pushing Robert Mathis

however, we had a live coach with a pulse. they have Caldwell. minus manning, i'm viewing it as an easy victory

They can hype up the Jets all they want, but the only team and player the Patriots see as a true rival is the Colts and Manning. He will be missed. It would be like Bird playing the Lakers without Magic healthy enough to play. No good.Posted by Celtics1986

Don't forget the Steelers. I think they are a big rival, as much as the jests.

Yeah Lakers-Celtics was big when Bird was palying, but don't forget Celtics-Sixers was big to, being they were in the same division.