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Comments: FWIW, this route has seen at least a dozen redpoints over the past year or two, many by non-5.13 climbers. Not sure if that adds anything to the grade debate or not, but it does update some of the information in the description

Comments: What an exquisite route description! The detail and thoroughness goes above and beyond all expectations. I especially enjoyed the well-researched and humorous section regarding the interesting history of this route. Certainly, a 5-star addition to the climbingboulder database. Bravo, lads!! Bravo!!

Comments: As I lack the guts to uprate a route under my real name, I'm posting under the honorable title of AC. I have to call sandbagging for who ever said this is 12c on lead, placing gear. Maybe 12c on toprope. This thing is 12d placing gear and hard at the grade. If you have led it in good style, please feel free to correct me.

And now for the sameless spraying for my buddy Ted Lanzano (as he won't do it himself). He crushed this on lead yesterday. The last stopper he was too pumped to place pr... more >>

Comments: Any beta for the crux moves? From the slopey rail, it seems like a monsterous move to a jug. Any trickery here? The crux is difficult to work, since you end up taking repeated sizeable whippers while trying things out.

Comments: BZD ... unless it's a wallet or a very expensive camera, why don't you just leave it there. Picking up someone's stuff they accidentally left behind is not cool. You know, most people come back for things that they leave behind (sunglasses/chalkbag/shoes/keys/etc.)

Just cause someone forgets something does not make it booty. A post on cb.com that ends up in the side comments for Horsetooth is unlikely to be read by more than a handful of us who regularly read the recent comments. cb.com is purp... more >>

Comments: Ken, as stated before, there were NO sport climbing areas in the US in 1978, and bolt proliferation was hardly an issue as well. Ken, your story regarding your background and experience has undermined your credibility to say the least. Fortunately, you can still be a success in the world without credibility on this website.

It's safe to say a lot of us will be tuning your contributions out from here on out. Thanks for playing.

Comments: D'Antonio-bashing has almost become an art form. Disguising your anti-bolt proliferation philosophy by making a retrobolt argument is pathetic. If you're going to say things like that, you better be willing to stand up and say who, what, when, where, how, etc.

Bob has committed to take the bolts out if you do. So do it ... if you can. If you can't, STFU.

Comments: Does anybody know what the name of this Dan Hare (?) route is?

Also: perhaps this discussion is (long?) dead, but I'd add another vote for *not* adding more bolts.

I appreciate Peter Beal's perspective (the D'Antonio-esque access-for-all ideology, which is great if that's how you want to put up routes), but I tend to agree with the personal responsibility argument.

"rant" Pro opportunities are a fundamental part of *every* climb, sport or no. Suss things out for yourself, make decisions for y... more >>

Comments: Does anyone know whats going on with raptor closures in Boulder Canyon this year? There are new yellow signs saying many crags like Blob, Happy Hour, Security etc are closed. Today there were lots of cars parked in normal parking, and a ranger truck. Just curious if anyone knows the details of the closures.......

Comments: Well landowners are getting pissed off!I. E. All the no tresspassing signs. Access is a big issue. Be respectful of landowner`s rights. When [facing] the rock from road the right [gully] is the [approach]. You should not be tresspassing.

Comments: I suspect the lines being put in are being put in across the road from Big Elk's main bouldering areas .. ie: straight uphill behind the Double Trouble Boulder, which harbors Get Over It. I can testify that it is not a fun hike, although there are cairns that I helped put down. ~ 3/4 mile hike that feels like 2 because of all the downed trees and crappy game trails that dead end into gullies and branch gauntlets. It's only a 700 foot elevation gain on the hike, but it feels worse because there's... more >>