Promoted Stories

Comments (25)

Colchester Borough Council told to scrap proposed 'supermarket levy' on large retailers

G.Speel says...5:02pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Morrison trolleys! Where the heck is that supermarket in Colchester? Answers on a postcard please.

Morrison trolleys! Where the heck is that supermarket in Colchester? Answers on a postcard please.G.Speel

Morrison trolleys! Where the heck is that supermarket in Colchester? Answers on a postcard please.

Score: -3

RU Sirius says...6:35pm Fri 8 Aug 14

And what did the actual members of the Trading Board have to say about it? What about some arguments in favour or examples of places (like Northern Ireland) where this has been introduced? Or are the Gazette just giving an uncontested platform for the Tories again?

And what did the actual members of the Trading Board have to say about it? What about some arguments in favour or examples of places (like Northern Ireland) where this has been introduced? Or are the Gazette just giving an uncontested platform for the Tories again?RU Sirius

And what did the actual members of the Trading Board have to say about it? What about some arguments in favour or examples of places (like Northern Ireland) where this has been introduced? Or are the Gazette just giving an uncontested platform for the Tories again?

Score: 0

Shrubendlad says...8:49pm Fri 8 Aug 14

RU Sirius wrote…

And what did the actual members of the Trading Board have to say about it? What about some arguments in favour or examples of places (like Northern Ireland) where this has been introduced? Or are the Gazette just giving an uncontested platform for the Tories again?

"An uncontested platform for the Tories"! After the way Russell has manipulated the local press! What a joke!! The Town Centre car parks should be subsidised and expanded. There are too many out of town shops a small contribution from them would not hurt. AND Mr Quince if you are serious about becoming the towns MP next year-which is probable now that BORIS has entered the ring-don't put stupid banners on redundant water towers. Just carefully follow the opinion of the electorate on Law and Order.

[quote][p][bold]RU Sirius[/bold] wrote:
And what did the actual members of the Trading Board have to say about it? What about some arguments in favour or examples of places (like Northern Ireland) where this has been introduced? Or are the Gazette just giving an uncontested platform for the Tories again?[/p][/quote]"An uncontested platform for the Tories"!
After the way Russell has manipulated the local press!
What a joke!!
The Town Centre car parks should be subsidised and expanded. There are too many out of town shops a small contribution from them would not hurt.
AND Mr Quince if you are serious about becoming the towns MP next year-which is probable now that BORIS has entered the ring-don't put stupid banners on redundant water towers. Just carefully follow the opinion of the electorate on Law and Order.Shrubendlad

RU Sirius wrote…

And what did the actual members of the Trading Board have to say about it? What about some arguments in favour or examples of places (like Northern Ireland) where this has been introduced? Or are the Gazette just giving an uncontested platform for the Tories again?

"An uncontested platform for the Tories"! After the way Russell has manipulated the local press! What a joke!! The Town Centre car parks should be subsidised and expanded. There are too many out of town shops a small contribution from them would not hurt. AND Mr Quince if you are serious about becoming the towns MP next year-which is probable now that BORIS has entered the ring-don't put stupid banners on redundant water towers. Just carefully follow the opinion of the electorate on Law and Order.

Score: 6

TheBrotherhoodOfTheBell says...9:21pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Its about time Mr Quince published ones field of expertise on the gazette thread. (Only claim to fame I can see is the dire RIghtmove advert for a local estate agency): Walking around sainsburys tollgate late at night with your partner is a bit of a kick in the dentures, to the town centre you are supposed to be trying to represent, don't worry I saw you but your secret is safe with me shoosh! Rubbing shoulders with the Hoi Polloi Oh Dear Dear? I TELL YOU WHAT WHY DON'T YOU TRY BUSINESS BREAKFASTS AT LE TALBOOTH WITH TOP LOCALS, LIKE ONE OF YOUR COLLEAGUES DID? As for reducing car parking charges what a yawn, we have been saying this to Martin Hunt & Super Hero Matthew Young for the last 20 Months please dont mistake the name I did not mention the prospective punter for Clacton, by the way notice how quiet the heavy hitter has been since the announcement to fight for the seat in London Overspill Land, plus the issue in their ward? Businesses don't want to invest in the town centre Mr Quince, they want to invest in Stanway and that seat is held by Priti Patel and you have no chance there, that is an MP with some real Cahonnes'

Its about time Mr Quince published ones field of expertise on the gazette thread. (Only claim to fame I can see is the dire RIghtmove advert for a local estate agency):
Walking around sainsburys tollgate late at night with your partner is a bit of a kick in the dentures, to the town centre you are supposed to be trying to represent, don't worry I saw you but your secret is safe with me shoosh!
Rubbing shoulders with the Hoi Polloi Oh Dear Dear?
I TELL YOU WHAT WHY DON'T YOU TRY BUSINESS BREAKFASTS AT LE TALBOOTH WITH TOP LOCALS, LIKE ONE OF YOUR COLLEAGUES DID?
As for reducing car parking charges what a yawn, we have been saying this to Martin Hunt & Super Hero Matthew Young for the last 20 Months please dont mistake the name I did not mention the prospective punter for Clacton, by the way notice how quiet the heavy hitter has been since the announcement to fight for the seat in London Overspill Land, plus the issue in their ward?
Businesses don't want to invest in the town centre Mr Quince, they want to invest in Stanway and that seat is held by Priti Patel and you have no chance there, that is an MP with some real Cahonnes'TheBrotherhoodOfTheBell

Its about time Mr Quince published ones field of expertise on the gazette thread. (Only claim to fame I can see is the dire RIghtmove advert for a local estate agency): Walking around sainsburys tollgate late at night with your partner is a bit of a kick in the dentures, to the town centre you are supposed to be trying to represent, don't worry I saw you but your secret is safe with me shoosh! Rubbing shoulders with the Hoi Polloi Oh Dear Dear? I TELL YOU WHAT WHY DON'T YOU TRY BUSINESS BREAKFASTS AT LE TALBOOTH WITH TOP LOCALS, LIKE ONE OF YOUR COLLEAGUES DID? As for reducing car parking charges what a yawn, we have been saying this to Martin Hunt & Super Hero Matthew Young for the last 20 Months please dont mistake the name I did not mention the prospective punter for Clacton, by the way notice how quiet the heavy hitter has been since the announcement to fight for the seat in London Overspill Land, plus the issue in their ward? Businesses don't want to invest in the town centre Mr Quince, they want to invest in Stanway and that seat is held by Priti Patel and you have no chance there, that is an MP with some real Cahonnes'

Score: 6

Boris says...1:50am Sat 9 Aug 14

By definition, out of town retailers do not invest in Colchester, so why does Quincey want to protect them? The levy on supermarkets is a very good idea, as part of a much wider strategy to revive the town centre. Another good idea would be to order landlords of town centre shops to reduce their extortionate rents, but I don't think the legislation allows for that, unfortunately.

By definition, out of town retailers do not invest in Colchester, so why does Quincey want to protect them?
The levy on supermarkets is a very good idea, as part of a much wider strategy to revive the town centre. Another good idea would be to order landlords of town centre shops to reduce their extortionate rents, but I don't think the legislation allows for that, unfortunately.Boris

By definition, out of town retailers do not invest in Colchester, so why does Quincey want to protect them? The levy on supermarkets is a very good idea, as part of a much wider strategy to revive the town centre. Another good idea would be to order landlords of town centre shops to reduce their extortionate rents, but I don't think the legislation allows for that, unfortunately.

Score: -6

Boris says...1:55am Sat 9 Aug 14

Shrubendlad wrote…

RU Sirius wrote…

And what did the actual members of the Trading Board have to say about it? What about some arguments in favour or examples of places (like Northern Ireland) where this has been introduced? Or are the Gazette just giving an uncontested platform for the Tories again?

"An uncontested platform for the Tories"! After the way Russell has manipulated the local press! What a joke!! The Town Centre car parks should be subsidised and expanded. There are too many out of town shops a small contribution from them would not hurt. AND Mr Quince if you are serious about becoming the towns MP next year-which is probable now that BORIS has entered the ring-don't put stupid banners on redundant water towers. Just carefully follow the opinion of the electorate on Law and Order.

RU Sirius was, as usual, quite right to make the comment he did. . As for me, I have not entered the ring. I realise you may be referring to the clown in London, but then you should specify.

[quote][p][bold]Shrubendlad[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]RU Sirius[/bold] wrote:
And what did the actual members of the Trading Board have to say about it? What about some arguments in favour or examples of places (like Northern Ireland) where this has been introduced? Or are the Gazette just giving an uncontested platform for the Tories again?[/p][/quote]"An uncontested platform for the Tories"!
After the way Russell has manipulated the local press!
What a joke!!
The Town Centre car parks should be subsidised and expanded. There are too many out of town shops a small contribution from them would not hurt.
AND Mr Quince if you are serious about becoming the towns MP next year-which is probable now that BORIS has entered the ring-don't put stupid banners on redundant water towers. Just carefully follow the opinion of the electorate on Law and Order.[/p][/quote]RU Sirius was, as usual, quite right to make the comment he did.
.
As for me, I have not entered the ring. I realise you may be referring to the clown in London, but then you should specify.Boris

Shrubendlad wrote…

RU Sirius wrote…

And what did the actual members of the Trading Board have to say about it? What about some arguments in favour or examples of places (like Northern Ireland) where this has been introduced? Or are the Gazette just giving an uncontested platform for the Tories again?

"An uncontested platform for the Tories"! After the way Russell has manipulated the local press! What a joke!! The Town Centre car parks should be subsidised and expanded. There are too many out of town shops a small contribution from them would not hurt. AND Mr Quince if you are serious about becoming the towns MP next year-which is probable now that BORIS has entered the ring-don't put stupid banners on redundant water towers. Just carefully follow the opinion of the electorate on Law and Order.

RU Sirius was, as usual, quite right to make the comment he did. . As for me, I have not entered the ring. I realise you may be referring to the clown in London, but then you should specify.

Score: -4

Shrubendlad says...7:24am Sat 9 Aug 14

Boris. Clowns: I met BJ about 12 years ago and quickly realised that the Clown act was just that-an act. The Yellow Clown in Colchester on the other hand is the real thing-straight out of a circus. I cant stand chinless condescending public school idiots-having been educated by Essex County Council-but BJ will deliver and not just talk.

Boris.
Clowns: I met BJ about 12 years ago and quickly realised that the Clown act was just that-an act. The Yellow Clown in Colchester on the other hand
is the real thing-straight out of a circus.
I cant stand chinless condescending public school idiots-having been educated by Essex County Council-but BJ will deliver and not just talk.Shrubendlad

Boris. Clowns: I met BJ about 12 years ago and quickly realised that the Clown act was just that-an act. The Yellow Clown in Colchester on the other hand is the real thing-straight out of a circus. I cant stand chinless condescending public school idiots-having been educated by Essex County Council-but BJ will deliver and not just talk.

Score: 4

Shoosh1905 says...8:04am Sat 9 Aug 14

Couldn't agree more Mr Quince we don't need more government we need less. If we reduce the parking fees more people will enter the high st spending more money which will encourage more shops to open and in turn generate more money. It's a simple equation! Nice to see that Sir Bob had an opinion your all mad if you vote for him. People need to remember there is an equilibrium where tax levels if increased start to reduce less revenue! We hit that point somewhere in Gordon Browns regime we need to reduce taxes and reduce spending to live within our means!

Couldn't agree more Mr Quince we don't need more government we need less. If we reduce the parking fees more people will enter the high st spending more money which will encourage more shops to open and in turn generate more money. It's a simple equation!
Nice to see that Sir Bob had an opinion your all mad if you vote for him.
People need to remember there is an equilibrium where tax levels if increased start to reduce less revenue! We hit that point somewhere in Gordon Browns regime we need to reduce taxes and reduce spending to live within our means!Shoosh1905

Couldn't agree more Mr Quince we don't need more government we need less. If we reduce the parking fees more people will enter the high st spending more money which will encourage more shops to open and in turn generate more money. It's a simple equation! Nice to see that Sir Bob had an opinion your all mad if you vote for him. People need to remember there is an equilibrium where tax levels if increased start to reduce less revenue! We hit that point somewhere in Gordon Browns regime we need to reduce taxes and reduce spending to live within our means!

Score: 3

sam vines says...10:36am Sat 9 Aug 14

I was under the impression this supermarket tax could only be applied if all local authorities in England agreed to and the figure would only be approx £800K given to each LA once it was shared out. Which given the corruptness/stupidit y of our LA would have no impact on the high street of Colchester. Whats next a local tax on McDonalds, BK, KFC, Subway, Costa and Starbucks because they steal customers from privately owned cafes in Colchester town center.

I was under the impression this supermarket tax could only be applied if all local authorities in England agreed to and the figure would only be approx £800K given to each LA once it was shared out. Which given the corruptness/stupidit
y of our LA would have no impact on the high street of Colchester. Whats next a local tax on McDonalds, BK, KFC, Subway, Costa and Starbucks because they steal customers from privately owned cafes in Colchester town center.sam vines

I was under the impression this supermarket tax could only be applied if all local authorities in England agreed to and the figure would only be approx £800K given to each LA once it was shared out. Which given the corruptness/stupidit y of our LA would have no impact on the high street of Colchester. Whats next a local tax on McDonalds, BK, KFC, Subway, Costa and Starbucks because they steal customers from privately owned cafes in Colchester town center.

Score: 11

Shrubendlad says...12:09pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Across the country there is a trend away from out of town supermarkets and retail parks. Medium urban and internet stores are taking their place. Colchester is an exception because of the Russell factor. Tollgate is booming because its outside Russell(anti consumer/ anti business). Once hes gone in May-Colchester town centre will boom and the park and ride will become pointless.

Across the country there is a trend away from out of town supermarkets and retail parks. Medium urban and internet stores are taking their place.
Colchester is an exception because of the Russell factor. Tollgate is booming because its outside Russell(anti consumer/ anti business).
Once hes gone in May-Colchester town centre will boom and the park and ride will become pointless.Shrubendlad

Across the country there is a trend away from out of town supermarkets and retail parks. Medium urban and internet stores are taking their place. Colchester is an exception because of the Russell factor. Tollgate is booming because its outside Russell(anti consumer/ anti business). Once hes gone in May-Colchester town centre will boom and the park and ride will become pointless.

Score: 5

TheBrotherhoodOfTheBell says...12:39pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Shrubendlad wrote…

Across the country there is a trend away from out of town supermarkets and retail parks. Medium urban and internet stores are taking their place. Colchester is an exception because of the Russell factor. Tollgate is booming because its outside Russell(anti consumer/ anti business). Once hes gone in May-Colchester town centre will boom and the park and ride will become pointless.

Done absolutely nothing for this town, the financial and moral support we all gave him over the last 30 years has been met with bitter sweet shoe shuffling and the odd letter. No one listens to him any letter sent is met with a robust counter reply which dissipates the issue. its something we did not experience with Tony Buck or Jenkins. In the last 13 years all investment by big corporations has gone to Ipswich or Chelmsford WHY? No Passport office. No Probate office. No Driving test theory centre. WHY? We have to bl**dy travel everywhere for everything now. The town is seen as the Joke Shop of North Essex ! TV Companies have cultivated the acronym Sl*pp*r Town ! The only claim to fame is Debenhams Oh Wow we can rest in peace and solitude. Kid you not I don't vote Tory or Labour, But a Conservative candidate could give the area a bit of class back. The love affair is over all ruined by a bit of lackadaisical laziness.

[quote][p][bold]Shrubendlad[/bold] wrote:
Across the country there is a trend away from out of town supermarkets and retail parks. Medium urban and internet stores are taking their place.
Colchester is an exception because of the Russell factor. Tollgate is booming because its outside Russell(anti consumer/ anti business).
Once hes gone in May-Colchester town centre will boom and the park and ride will become pointless.[/p][/quote]Done absolutely nothing for this town, the financial and moral support we all gave him over the last 30 years has been met with bitter sweet shoe shuffling and the odd letter. No one listens to him any letter sent is met with a robust counter reply which dissipates the issue. its something we did not experience with Tony Buck or Jenkins. In the last 13 years all investment by big corporations has gone to Ipswich or Chelmsford WHY?
No Passport office.
No Probate office.
No Driving test theory centre.
WHY?
We have to bl**dy travel everywhere for everything now. The town is seen as the Joke Shop of North Essex !
TV Companies have cultivated the acronym Sl*pp*r Town !
The only claim to fame is Debenhams Oh Wow we can rest in peace and solitude. Kid you not I don't vote Tory or Labour, But a Conservative candidate could give the area a bit of class back. The love affair is over all ruined by a bit of lackadaisical laziness.TheBrotherhoodOfTheBell

Shrubendlad wrote…

Across the country there is a trend away from out of town supermarkets and retail parks. Medium urban and internet stores are taking their place. Colchester is an exception because of the Russell factor. Tollgate is booming because its outside Russell(anti consumer/ anti business). Once hes gone in May-Colchester town centre will boom and the park and ride will become pointless.

Done absolutely nothing for this town, the financial and moral support we all gave him over the last 30 years has been met with bitter sweet shoe shuffling and the odd letter. No one listens to him any letter sent is met with a robust counter reply which dissipates the issue. its something we did not experience with Tony Buck or Jenkins. In the last 13 years all investment by big corporations has gone to Ipswich or Chelmsford WHY? No Passport office. No Probate office. No Driving test theory centre. WHY? We have to bl**dy travel everywhere for everything now. The town is seen as the Joke Shop of North Essex ! TV Companies have cultivated the acronym Sl*pp*r Town ! The only claim to fame is Debenhams Oh Wow we can rest in peace and solitude. Kid you not I don't vote Tory or Labour, But a Conservative candidate could give the area a bit of class back. The love affair is over all ruined by a bit of lackadaisical laziness.

Score: 9

YesIAm says...12:44pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Town centre parking needs to get more expensive not cheaper! Who the hell thinks £2.50 for 4 hours is expensive?! We need to make the buses cheaper and a better cycle network not cater for the lazy ... who drive a mile to town and want to park for free

Town centre parking needs to get more expensive not cheaper! Who the hell thinks £2.50 for 4 hours is expensive?!
We need to make the buses cheaper and a better cycle network not cater for the lazy ... who drive a mile to town and want to park for freeYesIAm

Town centre parking needs to get more expensive not cheaper! Who the hell thinks £2.50 for 4 hours is expensive?! We need to make the buses cheaper and a better cycle network not cater for the lazy ... who drive a mile to town and want to park for free

Score: -9

jut1972 says...2:09pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Boris wrote…

By definition, out of town retailers do not invest in Colchester, so why does Quincey want to protect them? The levy on supermarkets is a very good idea, as part of a much wider strategy to revive the town centre. Another good idea would be to order landlords of town centre shops to reduce their extortionate rents, but I don't think the legislation allows for that, unfortunately.

Boris that's not what it says. The move would deter out-of-town retailers from investing in Colchester. ie . prevent inward investment. Why would you be against that?

[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote:
By definition, out of town retailers do not invest in Colchester, so why does Quincey want to protect them?
The levy on supermarkets is a very good idea, as part of a much wider strategy to revive the town centre. Another good idea would be to order landlords of town centre shops to reduce their extortionate rents, but I don't think the legislation allows for that, unfortunately.[/p][/quote]Boris that's not what it says.
The move would deter out-of-town retailers from investing in Colchester.
ie . prevent inward investment.
Why would you be against that?jut1972

Boris wrote…

By definition, out of town retailers do not invest in Colchester, so why does Quincey want to protect them? The levy on supermarkets is a very good idea, as part of a much wider strategy to revive the town centre. Another good idea would be to order landlords of town centre shops to reduce their extortionate rents, but I don't think the legislation allows for that, unfortunately.

Boris that's not what it says. The move would deter out-of-town retailers from investing in Colchester. ie . prevent inward investment. Why would you be against that?

Score: 7

Shrubendlad says...3:00pm Sat 9 Aug 14

YesIAm wrote…

Town centre parking needs to get more expensive not cheaper! Who the hell thinks £2.50 for 4 hours is expensive?! We need to make the buses cheaper and a better cycle network not cater for the lazy ... who drive a mile to town and want to park for free

Cycles----------Far be it for me to point this out Colchester is not flat-It has a few hills-Are these bikes powered to go up East Hill, North Hill, Balkerne Hill-because even the smallest hills caused a few problems. In fact unless you stick to the housing estates or the flat areas on the coastal side there are hills everywhere. When car parking is free elsewhere-even £2.50 seems expensive to hard pressed families. Parking------Why didn't the town build a group of Multistory car park outside the town wall from Balkerne Hill to Mersea Road 30 years? with access roads to the A12 and outlying area?

[quote][p][bold]YesIAm[/bold] wrote:
Town centre parking needs to get more expensive not cheaper! Who the hell thinks £2.50 for 4 hours is expensive?!
We need to make the buses cheaper and a better cycle network not cater for the lazy ... who drive a mile to town and want to park for free[/p][/quote]Cycles----------Far be it for me to point this out Colchester is not flat-It has a few hills-Are these bikes powered to go up East Hill, North Hill, Balkerne Hill-because even the smallest hills caused a few problems. In fact unless you stick to the housing estates or the flat areas on the coastal side there are hills everywhere.
When car parking is free elsewhere-even £2.50 seems expensive to hard pressed families.
Parking------Why didn't the town build a group of Multistory car park outside the town wall from Balkerne Hill to Mersea Road 30 years?
with access roads to the A12 and outlying area?Shrubendlad

YesIAm wrote…

Town centre parking needs to get more expensive not cheaper! Who the hell thinks £2.50 for 4 hours is expensive?! We need to make the buses cheaper and a better cycle network not cater for the lazy ... who drive a mile to town and want to park for free

Cycles----------Far be it for me to point this out Colchester is not flat-It has a few hills-Are these bikes powered to go up East Hill, North Hill, Balkerne Hill-because even the smallest hills caused a few problems. In fact unless you stick to the housing estates or the flat areas on the coastal side there are hills everywhere. When car parking is free elsewhere-even £2.50 seems expensive to hard pressed families. Parking------Why didn't the town build a group of Multistory car park outside the town wall from Balkerne Hill to Mersea Road 30 years? with access roads to the A12 and outlying area?

Score: 2

roger bacon says...5:09pm Sat 9 Aug 14

YesIAm wrote…

Town centre parking needs to get more expensive not cheaper! Who the hell thinks £2.50 for 4 hours is expensive?! We need to make the buses cheaper and a better cycle network not cater for the lazy ... who drive a mile to town and want to park for free

What a crazy letter. Everywhere in life it is better for things to be cheaper rather than dearer. Colchester must follow Tendring's example and make parking free , then that will bring more people into the town centre like it does in Clacton.

[quote][p][bold]YesIAm[/bold] wrote:
Town centre parking needs to get more expensive not cheaper! Who the hell thinks £2.50 for 4 hours is expensive?!
We need to make the buses cheaper and a better cycle network not cater for the lazy ... who drive a mile to town and want to park for free[/p][/quote]What a crazy letter. Everywhere in life it is better for things to be cheaper rather than dearer. Colchester must follow Tendring's example and make parking free , then that will bring more people into the town centre like it does in Clacton.roger bacon

YesIAm wrote…

Town centre parking needs to get more expensive not cheaper! Who the hell thinks £2.50 for 4 hours is expensive?! We need to make the buses cheaper and a better cycle network not cater for the lazy ... who drive a mile to town and want to park for free

What a crazy letter. Everywhere in life it is better for things to be cheaper rather than dearer. Colchester must follow Tendring's example and make parking free , then that will bring more people into the town centre like it does in Clacton.

Score: 3

wormshero says...5:29pm Sat 9 Aug 14

roger bacon wrote…

YesIAm wrote…

Town centre parking needs to get more expensive not cheaper! Who the hell thinks £2.50 for 4 hours is expensive?! We need to make the buses cheaper and a better cycle network not cater for the lazy ... who drive a mile to town and want to park for free

What a crazy letter. Everywhere in life it is better for things to be cheaper rather than dearer. Colchester must follow Tendring's example and make parking free , then that will bring more people into the town centre like it does in Clacton.

People don't go into Clacton for its shopping...

[quote][p][bold]roger bacon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]YesIAm[/bold] wrote:
Town centre parking needs to get more expensive not cheaper! Who the hell thinks £2.50 for 4 hours is expensive?!
We need to make the buses cheaper and a better cycle network not cater for the lazy ... who drive a mile to town and want to park for free[/p][/quote]What a crazy letter. Everywhere in life it is better for things to be cheaper rather than dearer. Colchester must follow Tendring's example and make parking free , then that will bring more people into the town centre like it does in Clacton.[/p][/quote]People don't go into Clacton for its shopping...wormshero

roger bacon wrote…

YesIAm wrote…

Town centre parking needs to get more expensive not cheaper! Who the hell thinks £2.50 for 4 hours is expensive?! We need to make the buses cheaper and a better cycle network not cater for the lazy ... who drive a mile to town and want to park for free

What a crazy letter. Everywhere in life it is better for things to be cheaper rather than dearer. Colchester must follow Tendring's example and make parking free , then that will bring more people into the town centre like it does in Clacton.

People don't go into Clacton for its shopping...

Score: 1

YesIAm says...7:22pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Shrubendlad wrote…

YesIAm wrote…

Town centre parking needs to get more expensive not cheaper! Who the hell thinks £2.50 for 4 hours is expensive?! We need to make the buses cheaper and a better cycle network not cater for the lazy ... who drive a mile to town and want to park for free

Cycles----------Far be it for me to point this out Colchester is not flat-It has a few hills-Are these bikes powered to go up East Hill, North Hill, Balkerne Hill-because even the smallest hills caused a few problems. In fact unless you stick to the housing estates or the flat areas on the coastal side there are hills everywhere. When car parking is free elsewhere-even £2.50 seems expensive to hard pressed families. Parking------Why didn't the town build a group of Multistory car park outside the town wall from Balkerne Hill to Mersea Road 30 years? with access roads to the A12 and outlying area?

Compare £2.50 to park a car with a family of 4 to getting a return bus ticket with a family of 4...you'll be looking at the best part of a tenner! So what is cheap?! If you are that hard pressed that you can't afford £2.50 should you be in town spending money that you likely don't have.

[quote][p][bold]Shrubendlad[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]YesIAm[/bold] wrote:
Town centre parking needs to get more expensive not cheaper! Who the hell thinks £2.50 for 4 hours is expensive?!
We need to make the buses cheaper and a better cycle network not cater for the lazy ... who drive a mile to town and want to park for free[/p][/quote]Cycles----------Far be it for me to point this out Colchester is not flat-It has a few hills-Are these bikes powered to go up East Hill, North Hill, Balkerne Hill-because even the smallest hills caused a few problems. In fact unless you stick to the housing estates or the flat areas on the coastal side there are hills everywhere.
When car parking is free elsewhere-even £2.50 seems expensive to hard pressed families.
Parking------Why didn't the town build a group of Multistory car park outside the town wall from Balkerne Hill to Mersea Road 30 years?
with access roads to the A12 and outlying area?[/p][/quote]Compare £2.50 to park a car with a family of 4 to getting a return bus ticket with a family of 4...you'll be looking at the best part of a tenner! So what is cheap?!
If you are that hard pressed that you can't afford £2.50 should you be in town spending money that you likely don't have.YesIAm

Shrubendlad wrote…

YesIAm wrote…

Town centre parking needs to get more expensive not cheaper! Who the hell thinks £2.50 for 4 hours is expensive?! We need to make the buses cheaper and a better cycle network not cater for the lazy ... who drive a mile to town and want to park for free

Cycles----------Far be it for me to point this out Colchester is not flat-It has a few hills-Are these bikes powered to go up East Hill, North Hill, Balkerne Hill-because even the smallest hills caused a few problems. In fact unless you stick to the housing estates or the flat areas on the coastal side there are hills everywhere. When car parking is free elsewhere-even £2.50 seems expensive to hard pressed families. Parking------Why didn't the town build a group of Multistory car park outside the town wall from Balkerne Hill to Mersea Road 30 years? with access roads to the A12 and outlying area?

Compare £2.50 to park a car with a family of 4 to getting a return bus ticket with a family of 4...you'll be looking at the best part of a tenner! So what is cheap?! If you are that hard pressed that you can't afford £2.50 should you be in town spending money that you likely don't have.

Score: 3

YesIAm says...7:29pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Shrubendlad wrote…

YesIAm wrote…

Town centre parking needs to get more expensive not cheaper! Who the hell thinks £2.50 for 4 hours is expensive?! We need to make the buses cheaper and a better cycle network not cater for the lazy ... who drive a mile to town and want to park for free

Cycles----------Far be it for me to point this out Colchester is not flat-It has a few hills-Are these bikes powered to go up East Hill, North Hill, Balkerne Hill-because even the smallest hills caused a few problems. In fact unless you stick to the housing estates or the flat areas on the coastal side there are hills everywhere. When car parking is free elsewhere-even £2.50 seems expensive to hard pressed families. Parking------Why didn't the town build a group of Multistory car park outside the town wall from Balkerne Hill to Mersea Road 30 years? with access roads to the A12 and outlying area?

'Are these bikes powered to go up East Hill, North Hill, Balkerne Hill-because even the smallest hills caused a few problems.' Exactly the kind of laziness I'm talking about, it's a short (admittedly fairly steep) hill, not Ben Nevis! Pedal power will do the job just fine without power assisted bikes

[quote][p][bold]Shrubendlad[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]YesIAm[/bold] wrote:
Town centre parking needs to get more expensive not cheaper! Who the hell thinks £2.50 for 4 hours is expensive?!
We need to make the buses cheaper and a better cycle network not cater for the lazy ... who drive a mile to town and want to park for free[/p][/quote]Cycles----------Far be it for me to point this out Colchester is not flat-It has a few hills-Are these bikes powered to go up East Hill, North Hill, Balkerne Hill-because even the smallest hills caused a few problems. In fact unless you stick to the housing estates or the flat areas on the coastal side there are hills everywhere.
When car parking is free elsewhere-even £2.50 seems expensive to hard pressed families.
Parking------Why didn't the town build a group of Multistory car park outside the town wall from Balkerne Hill to Mersea Road 30 years?
with access roads to the A12 and outlying area?[/p][/quote]'Are these bikes powered to go up East Hill, North Hill, Balkerne Hill-because even the smallest hills caused a few problems.'
Exactly the kind of laziness I'm talking about, it's a short (admittedly fairly steep) hill, not Ben Nevis! Pedal power will do the job just fine without power assisted bikesYesIAm

Shrubendlad wrote…

YesIAm wrote…

Town centre parking needs to get more expensive not cheaper! Who the hell thinks £2.50 for 4 hours is expensive?! We need to make the buses cheaper and a better cycle network not cater for the lazy ... who drive a mile to town and want to park for free

Cycles----------Far be it for me to point this out Colchester is not flat-It has a few hills-Are these bikes powered to go up East Hill, North Hill, Balkerne Hill-because even the smallest hills caused a few problems. In fact unless you stick to the housing estates or the flat areas on the coastal side there are hills everywhere. When car parking is free elsewhere-even £2.50 seems expensive to hard pressed families. Parking------Why didn't the town build a group of Multistory car park outside the town wall from Balkerne Hill to Mersea Road 30 years? with access roads to the A12 and outlying area?

'Are these bikes powered to go up East Hill, North Hill, Balkerne Hill-because even the smallest hills caused a few problems.' Exactly the kind of laziness I'm talking about, it's a short (admittedly fairly steep) hill, not Ben Nevis! Pedal power will do the job just fine without power assisted bikes

Score: -2

Cllr Martin Hunt says...9:31pm Sat 9 Aug 14

I reduced the cost of parking every year I was the portfolio holder. If it was free the town would be gridlocked then you'd all be moaning about traffric jams. And the council wouldn't be able to afford to maintain the car parks so they'd be full of potholes and there would be no security so the car thieves would have a field day. Then eventually everyone would go and shop somewhere else. How would that help? And by the way Bob Russell is a dead cert so don't get too excited.

I reduced the cost of parking every year I was the portfolio holder. If it was free the town would be gridlocked then you'd all be moaning about traffric jams. And the council wouldn't be able to afford to maintain the car parks so they'd be full of potholes and there would be no security so the car thieves would have a field day. Then eventually everyone would go and shop somewhere else. How would that help? And by the way Bob Russell is a dead cert so don't get too excited.Cllr Martin Hunt

I reduced the cost of parking every year I was the portfolio holder. If it was free the town would be gridlocked then you'd all be moaning about traffric jams. And the council wouldn't be able to afford to maintain the car parks so they'd be full of potholes and there would be no security so the car thieves would have a field day. Then eventually everyone would go and shop somewhere else. How would that help? And by the way Bob Russell is a dead cert so don't get too excited.

Score: -5

Boris says...1:28am Sun 10 Aug 14

Shrubendlad wrote…

Across the country there is a trend away from out of town supermarkets and retail parks. Medium urban and internet stores are taking their place. Colchester is an exception because of the Russell factor. Tollgate is booming because its outside Russell(anti consumer/ anti business). Once hes gone in May-Colchester town centre will boom and the park and ride will become pointless.

Dream on....

[quote][p][bold]Shrubendlad[/bold] wrote:
Across the country there is a trend away from out of town supermarkets and retail parks. Medium urban and internet stores are taking their place.
Colchester is an exception because of the Russell factor. Tollgate is booming because its outside Russell(anti consumer/ anti business).
Once hes gone in May-Colchester town centre will boom and the park and ride will become pointless.[/p][/quote]Dream on....Boris

Shrubendlad wrote…

Across the country there is a trend away from out of town supermarkets and retail parks. Medium urban and internet stores are taking their place. Colchester is an exception because of the Russell factor. Tollgate is booming because its outside Russell(anti consumer/ anti business). Once hes gone in May-Colchester town centre will boom and the park and ride will become pointless.

Dream on....

Score: 1

Boris says...1:39am Sun 10 Aug 14

jut1972 wrote…

Boris wrote…

By definition, out of town retailers do not invest in Colchester, so why does Quincey want to protect them? The levy on supermarkets is a very good idea, as part of a much wider strategy to revive the town centre. Another good idea would be to order landlords of town centre shops to reduce their extortionate rents, but I don't think the legislation allows for that, unfortunately.

Boris that's not what it says. The move would deter out-of-town retailers from investing in Colchester. ie . prevent inward investment. Why would you be against that?

Out of town retailers are those who set up shop in peripheral areas like Tollgate. They cater for shoppers who use cars. Some of them (Sainsbury's, Boots, Bennett's, Argos for example) have a town centre presence as well, but probably only because they started in the centre. . Most retail chains want to be present in Colchester, the fastest-growing town in the country, with thousands of people with stupid amounts of money available to spend. The question is: should their shops be out of town, serving only the car users, or in town, serving everyone?

[quote][p][bold]jut1972[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote:
By definition, out of town retailers do not invest in Colchester, so why does Quincey want to protect them?
The levy on supermarkets is a very good idea, as part of a much wider strategy to revive the town centre. Another good idea would be to order landlords of town centre shops to reduce their extortionate rents, but I don't think the legislation allows for that, unfortunately.[/p][/quote]Boris that's not what it says.
The move would deter out-of-town retailers from investing in Colchester.
ie . prevent inward investment.
Why would you be against that?[/p][/quote]Out of town retailers are those who set up shop in peripheral areas like Tollgate. They cater for shoppers who use cars. Some of them (Sainsbury's, Boots, Bennett's, Argos for example) have a town centre presence as well, but probably only because they started in the centre.
.
Most retail chains want to be present in Colchester, the fastest-growing town in the country, with thousands of people with stupid amounts of money available to spend. The question is: should their shops be out of town, serving only the car users, or in town, serving everyone?Boris

jut1972 wrote…

Boris wrote…

By definition, out of town retailers do not invest in Colchester, so why does Quincey want to protect them? The levy on supermarkets is a very good idea, as part of a much wider strategy to revive the town centre. Another good idea would be to order landlords of town centre shops to reduce their extortionate rents, but I don't think the legislation allows for that, unfortunately.

Boris that's not what it says. The move would deter out-of-town retailers from investing in Colchester. ie . prevent inward investment. Why would you be against that?

Out of town retailers are those who set up shop in peripheral areas like Tollgate. They cater for shoppers who use cars. Some of them (Sainsbury's, Boots, Bennett's, Argos for example) have a town centre presence as well, but probably only because they started in the centre. . Most retail chains want to be present in Colchester, the fastest-growing town in the country, with thousands of people with stupid amounts of money available to spend. The question is: should their shops be out of town, serving only the car users, or in town, serving everyone?

Score: -2

Shrubendlad says...7:46am Sun 10 Aug 14

Cllr Martin Hunt wrote…

I reduced the cost of parking every year I was the portfolio holder. If it was free the town would be gridlocked then you'd all be moaning about traffric jams. And the council wouldn't be able to afford to maintain the car parks so they'd be full of potholes and there would be no security so the car thieves would have a field day. Then eventually everyone would go and shop somewhere else. How would that help? And by the way Bob Russell is a dead cert so don't get too excited.

Martin. May is for Quince to lose-its an open goal. Never campaigned in my home town-looking forward to it. Can you get John Loxley a decent ward please-I remember when he first joined the old Liberal party.

[quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote:
I reduced the cost of parking every year I was the portfolio holder. If it was free the town would be gridlocked then you'd all be moaning about traffric jams. And the council wouldn't be able to afford to maintain the car parks so they'd be full of potholes and there would be no security so the car thieves would have a field day. Then eventually everyone would go and shop somewhere else. How would that help? And by the way Bob Russell is a dead cert so don't get too excited.[/p][/quote]Martin. May is for Quince to lose-its an open goal.
Never campaigned in my home town-looking forward to it.
Can you get John Loxley a decent ward please-I remember when he first joined the old Liberal party.Shrubendlad

Cllr Martin Hunt wrote…

I reduced the cost of parking every year I was the portfolio holder. If it was free the town would be gridlocked then you'd all be moaning about traffric jams. And the council wouldn't be able to afford to maintain the car parks so they'd be full of potholes and there would be no security so the car thieves would have a field day. Then eventually everyone would go and shop somewhere else. How would that help? And by the way Bob Russell is a dead cert so don't get too excited.

Martin. May is for Quince to lose-its an open goal. Never campaigned in my home town-looking forward to it. Can you get John Loxley a decent ward please-I remember when he first joined the old Liberal party.

Score: 0

sam vines says...10:06am Sun 10 Aug 14

Cllr Martin Hunt wrote…

I reduced the cost of parking every year I was the portfolio holder. If it was free the town would be gridlocked then you'd all be moaning about traffric jams. And the council wouldn't be able to afford to maintain the car parks so they'd be full of potholes and there would be no security so the car thieves would have a field day. Then eventually everyone would go and shop somewhere else. How would that help? And by the way Bob Russell is a dead cert so don't get too excited.

So what your saying is you don't want Colchester jam packed with consumers spending money and your too cowardly to pass on the car park costs to all the retailers who would benefit from the consumers. Don't really care about our waste of space mp what i would rather have is the leader of CBC elected by the people not by their mates and to be politically neutral.

[quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote:
I reduced the cost of parking every year I was the portfolio holder. If it was free the town would be gridlocked then you'd all be moaning about traffric jams. And the council wouldn't be able to afford to maintain the car parks so they'd be full of potholes and there would be no security so the car thieves would have a field day. Then eventually everyone would go and shop somewhere else. How would that help? And by the way Bob Russell is a dead cert so don't get too excited.[/p][/quote]So what your saying is you don't want Colchester jam packed with consumers spending money and your too cowardly to pass on the car park costs to all the retailers who would benefit from the consumers. Don't really care about our waste of space mp what i would rather have is the leader of CBC elected by the people not by their mates and to be politically neutral.sam vines

Cllr Martin Hunt wrote…

I reduced the cost of parking every year I was the portfolio holder. If it was free the town would be gridlocked then you'd all be moaning about traffric jams. And the council wouldn't be able to afford to maintain the car parks so they'd be full of potholes and there would be no security so the car thieves would have a field day. Then eventually everyone would go and shop somewhere else. How would that help? And by the way Bob Russell is a dead cert so don't get too excited.

So what your saying is you don't want Colchester jam packed with consumers spending money and your too cowardly to pass on the car park costs to all the retailers who would benefit from the consumers. Don't really care about our waste of space mp what i would rather have is the leader of CBC elected by the people not by their mates and to be politically neutral.

Score: 13

Cllr Martin Hunt says...10:47pm Sun 10 Aug 14

sam vines wrote…

Cllr Martin Hunt wrote…

I reduced the cost of parking every year I was the portfolio holder. If it was free the town would be gridlocked then you'd all be moaning about traffric jams. And the council wouldn't be able to afford to maintain the car parks so they'd be full of potholes and there would be no security so the car thieves would have a field day. Then eventually everyone would go and shop somewhere else. How would that help? And by the way Bob Russell is a dead cert so don't get too excited.

So what your saying is you don't want Colchester jam packed with consumers spending money and your too cowardly to pass on the car park costs to all the retailers who would benefit from the consumers. Don't really care about our waste of space mp what i would rather have is the leader of CBC elected by the people not by their mates and to be politically neutral.

Good for you Sam. Stand for election after your successful campaign to get an elected Mayor for Colchester.

[quote][p][bold]sam vines[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote: I reduced the cost of parking every year I was the portfolio holder. If it was free the town would be gridlocked then you'd all be moaning about traffric jams. And the council wouldn't be able to afford to maintain the car parks so they'd be full of potholes and there would be no security so the car thieves would have a field day. Then eventually everyone would go and shop somewhere else. How would that help? And by the way Bob Russell is a dead cert so don't get too excited.[/p][/quote]So what your saying is you don't want Colchester jam packed with consumers spending money and your too cowardly to pass on the car park costs to all the retailers who would benefit from the consumers. Don't really care about our waste of space mp what i would rather have is the leader of CBC elected by the people not by their mates and to be politically neutral.[/p][/quote]Good for you Sam. Stand for election after your successful campaign to get an elected Mayor for Colchester.Cllr Martin Hunt

sam vines wrote…

Cllr Martin Hunt wrote…

I reduced the cost of parking every year I was the portfolio holder. If it was free the town would be gridlocked then you'd all be moaning about traffric jams. And the council wouldn't be able to afford to maintain the car parks so they'd be full of potholes and there would be no security so the car thieves would have a field day. Then eventually everyone would go and shop somewhere else. How would that help? And by the way Bob Russell is a dead cert so don't get too excited.

So what your saying is you don't want Colchester jam packed with consumers spending money and your too cowardly to pass on the car park costs to all the retailers who would benefit from the consumers. Don't really care about our waste of space mp what i would rather have is the leader of CBC elected by the people not by their mates and to be politically neutral.

Good for you Sam. Stand for election after your successful campaign to get an elected Mayor for Colchester.

Score: -2

AVeryPrivateGentleman says...7:26am Mon 11 Aug 14

Cllr Martin Hunt wrote…

I reduced the cost of parking every year I was the portfolio holder. If it was free the town would be gridlocked then you'd all be moaning about traffric jams. And the council wouldn't be able to afford to maintain the car parks so they'd be full of potholes and there would be no security so the car thieves would have a field day. Then eventually everyone would go and shop somewhere else. How would that help? And by the way Bob Russell is a dead cert so don't get too excited.

Oh Dear Dear ! I am a party member and coming over like this to members of the public is not the done thing, we are loosing touch Mr Hunt ? £1 a day, all day parking, will solve the problems you talk about, but you wont and we all know why ? BTW The only "Dead Certs" are three of our former community members murdered, now in the morgue God Bless Them+ ?

[quote][p][bold]Cllr Martin Hunt[/bold] wrote:
I reduced the cost of parking every year I was the portfolio holder. If it was free the town would be gridlocked then you'd all be moaning about traffric jams. And the council wouldn't be able to afford to maintain the car parks so they'd be full of potholes and there would be no security so the car thieves would have a field day. Then eventually everyone would go and shop somewhere else. How would that help? And by the way Bob Russell is a dead cert so don't get too excited.[/p][/quote]Oh Dear Dear ! I am a party member and coming over like this to members of the public is not the done thing, we are loosing touch Mr Hunt ? £1 a day, all day parking, will solve the problems you talk about, but you wont and we all know why ? BTW The only "Dead Certs" are three of our former community members murdered, now in the morgue God Bless Them+ ?AVeryPrivateGentleman

Cllr Martin Hunt wrote…

I reduced the cost of parking every year I was the portfolio holder. If it was free the town would be gridlocked then you'd all be moaning about traffric jams. And the council wouldn't be able to afford to maintain the car parks so they'd be full of potholes and there would be no security so the car thieves would have a field day. Then eventually everyone would go and shop somewhere else. How would that help? And by the way Bob Russell is a dead cert so don't get too excited.

Oh Dear Dear ! I am a party member and coming over like this to members of the public is not the done thing, we are loosing touch Mr Hunt ? £1 a day, all day parking, will solve the problems you talk about, but you wont and we all know why ? BTW The only "Dead Certs" are three of our former community members murdered, now in the morgue God Bless Them+ ?

Ipsoregulated

This website and associated newspapers adhere to the Independent Press Standardards Organisations's Editors' Code of Practice. If you have a compaint about editorial content which relates to inaccuracy or intrusion, then please contact the editor here. If you are dissatisfied with the response provided you can contact IPSO here