ADMISSIONS OFFICER: Here's What They Don't Tell You About Getting Into An Ivy League Schoolhttp://www.businessinsider.com/secrets-of-dartmouth-admissions-office-2012-10/comments
en-usWed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500Fri, 09 Dec 2016 10:12:04 -0500Gus Lubinhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/507def576bb3f7215a000008Jim P.Tue, 16 Oct 2012 19:35:51 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507def576bb3f7215a000008
I think it's important to point out that the Ivy League is the only place in Division i athletics where the athletes are required to meet a high academic standard to be recruited. The Academic Index that you mentioned, must be within 1 statistical standard deviation of the Academic Index of the student body as a whole. <a href="http://www.tier1athletics.org/2012/01/04/hello-world/" target="_blank">http://www.tier1athletics.org/2012/01/04/hello-world/</a> That's not the case at Duke, Northwestern, Stanford, etc.
So yes, there is an allowance made for athletes - but Ivy athlete's are more academically qualified than 90% of the general population of college students. (That's a statement of fact) If you want a school with -0- emphasis on athletics and admittance is based solely on academic marks - there are places like Caltech. The Ivy League seems to value a variety of talents in their student bodies.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507db5916bb3f75370000008vassar lolTue, 16 Oct 2012 15:29:21 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507db5916bb3f75370000008
Vasser, LOL. Ask any college-aged kid in the country if he'd rather have a degree from [a] Penn State or [b] Cornell, Brown, Chicago, NW. Ivies and Ivy+ vs Joe Pa U.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507cdd9969beddf861000032JKPopTue, 16 Oct 2012 00:07:53 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507cdd9969beddf861000032
I was surprised by the survey. Ultimately the schools that are going to help you succeed in life are the ones that combine a quality education with a powerhouse alumni network (officially and unofficially). This is most likely to be true of large universities (such as UMichigan, UCLA, Penn State, UTexas-Austin, etc.) or elite institutions with hundreds of years worth of high-monied connections (Harvard, Vanderbilt, Yale, Wellesley, Vassar, etc.) I was shocked to see some schools like Cornell or Brown. I understand they are part of the Ivy Conference, but if you get out of Northeast most people are not that impressed with them. The same for UChicago and Northwestern when you get out of the Midwest. Everyone who knows higher education may know of these more regionally-stronger schools, but some of these schools I was reminded of by the survey. For instance, in my field of engineering, you are more like to run into someone who graduated from a big school like the University of Illinois than you are from Harvey Mudd. Not to take way from the exceptional programs offered at Harvey Mudd, but it is such a small school, that the alumni network can only expand but so far compared to a giant school like UIllinois where I run into their alums in India, Brazil, and yes, the American Northeast where they are not only engineers, but even in administration-level. But, what do I know? Maybe I I am missing something when I am considering the alumni network's role in success...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507cd7c869beddea53000015P JMon, 15 Oct 2012 23:43:04 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507cd7c869beddea53000015
Yep, that's what the Left did, they sent out their agents to infiltrate as many schools across the nation as possible.
Try again. The Right is foundering because they haven't grasped on to one simple, universal constant: Change! Change is what moves the world, not just this country, forward. When groups constantly seek to maintain the status quo (keep it for us and forget everyone else), they put themselves and their groupies in an untenable position.
Simply put, there is no real objectivity from the Left or the Right (hence the directionality terms) but only from the Center can one see what is happening from both directions.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507c74a8ecad041535000017joan kaestnerMon, 15 Oct 2012 16:40:08 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507c74a8ecad041535000017
Add a comment...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507c46c0ecad043b6000000cMJMon, 15 Oct 2012 13:24:16 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507c46c0ecad043b6000000c
The best way to get admited is to help the recruiter get some kitty.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507c23e96bb3f7707a000005Go Fords!Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:55:37 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507c23e96bb3f7707a000005
I think knowing that an African-American heritage is such an enormous benefit in college applications that it is pretty easy and obviously smart to make it clear that you are in this category. "As President of the African-American Students Association at my high school...." . "As an African-American, I have dedicated myself to the study of...." And if you don't, your school can. "Coming from an African American family at this majority-white school, Student had to overcome many....."http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507c1f1aecad04c911000015JAMon, 15 Oct 2012 10:35:06 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507c1f1aecad04c911000015
Not true I think; recall that the SAT scores are correlated to the probability of success in only THE FIRST YEAR OF COLLEGE. They do not predict, nor are meant to predict anything beyond the first year.
This is why if someone graduates from a community college with good grades, they can literally get into almost any 4 year institution. At a local community college near where I live, graduates have gone onto Columbia U, Cornell, etc.
Also, if a student does well in the first year at a "non-exclusive" college, his/her chances of obtaining entry as a transfer into a more exclusive school are usually pretty good.
As for Obama, well, I personally think he is an arrogant, left wing racist elitist snob who probably got into Occidental based on racial preferences (and maybe even stating he was Kenyan or Indonesian). Regardless, if he did well at Occidental in his first year or so, it would not have been a big deal for Columbia to accept him as a transfer. Like almost all colleges, Columbia will take graduates of community colleges as well - provided the applicant has good grades , etc.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507c17ffecad04030200001bManojMon, 15 Oct 2012 10:04:47 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507c17ffecad04030200001b
It is an interesting read. I was wondering how selectors can determine the race of an applicant. Is there a need to identify one's race on an app? Is this legal and does this infringe on privacy rights? Granted some names are a dead giveaway about possible origins...but its a name and it could be that a person is from a mixed race. I know a few non-whites having completely white sounding names. So difficult to judge just based on name unless other details and background are provided. In any case, the article does shed light on the selection process and things to look out for when considering an application to these schools.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507c1044ecad04bd7700000dchris JMon, 15 Oct 2012 09:31:48 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507c1044ecad04bd7700000d
It's a corrupt system hi-jacked by the left. No longer anything to do with education but more to do with left wing indoctrination. So those who go to the right apply that same standard of objectivity. US journalism has been infected by a standard of political subjectivity.
Look at all the journalists we have produced. They have lost the art of the craft which is reporting objectively. They all have a slant to the left. Case in point, Lara Logan. She is applying what she learned, not in a US college. A journalist whoo seeks the truth!!!! The journalists from Univision who interviewed the President, again not educated in the US.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507bd5f26bb3f75e6000002cLizMon, 15 Oct 2012 05:22:58 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507bd5f26bb3f75e6000002c
How about since college is mostly a scam these days anyway (even Harvard for some majors), students just strike out on their own and stop paying these lazy, greedy administrators to sit around and judge students? Let them go find jobs elsewhere. Most of these people have outlived their usefulness anyway in the age of the internet.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507b62adecad04f62c000022DMESun, 14 Oct 2012 21:11:09 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507b62adecad04f62c000022
That was boring and essentially useless. Denyhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/507b4b44eab8ea936e000014qurainaSun, 14 Oct 2012 19:31:16 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507b4b44eab8ea936e000014
Chicago Teacher's Union fat boss Karen Lewis claims to have graduated from Dartmouth. Is that true, and if so, can Dartmouth please yank her diploma?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507b3f9c6bb3f7484800001crothseyeSun, 14 Oct 2012 18:41:32 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507b3f9c6bb3f7484800001c
Geroge Bush was a Legacy. He got accepted to YALE, HAVARD and SKULLS AND BONES because of his father. kkhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/507b0f506bb3f7c87000002dDaemonMoyenneSun, 14 Oct 2012 15:15:28 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507b0f506bb3f7c87000002d
Inconclusive. Studying Abroad may garnish similar ROI.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507a5215eab8ea332500001eOBAMA USED AFFIRMATIVE ACTION TO TRANSFER FROM A SHITTY COLLEGE INTO IVY LEAGUE COLUMBIASun, 14 Oct 2012 01:48:05 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507a5215eab8ea332500001e
WITHOUT AFFIRMATIVE ACTION OBAMA WOULD NOT BE PREZ TODAYhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/507a4c186bb3f7716e000004clayton bigsbySun, 14 Oct 2012 01:22:32 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507a4c186bb3f7716e000004
the black white supremist know exactly which groups are getting preferential treatment (ex-asians)http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507a4667ecad047a77000019uhh...collegeSun, 14 Oct 2012 00:58:15 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507a4667ecad047a77000019
College is over rated.................................NOT!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507a2d9669bedd5438000036RockwellSat, 13 Oct 2012 23:12:22 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507a2d9669bedd5438000036
"I was constantly peeved by athletic admissions. Even though I didn't look at them I thought they brought down the quality of the applicant pool."
"I was constantly peeved by minority admissions. Even though I didn't look at them I thought they brought down the quality of the applicant pool."http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507a2574ecad045d46000003joanieandchachiSat, 13 Oct 2012 22:37:40 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507a2574ecad045d46000003
Build more Ivy league schools. Problem solved.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507a1bdaeab8eae04000000aJamesSat, 13 Oct 2012 21:56:42 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507a1bdaeab8eae04000000a
The entire university education system in the US needs to be reevaluated and overhauled. It has been rotting from the inside for the past 2-3 decades.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507a146feab8ea2f2f000017SSSat, 13 Oct 2012 21:25:03 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/507a146feab8ea2f2f000017
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