I copped val last night and got inno. Doesn't help much though, since he died. If there's 2 scum, I'm still not sure why mafia didn't win last DP, since the ratio would've been 4:2 plus a TP. The only explanation I can think of is that there is actually only 1 scum, and FT is an SK. If this is the case, then FT has almost certainly been withholding his kills until last NP, after scum had died.

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-.- That's not the issue. If survivor or SK don't count as town or mafia, then they wouldn't count in town to scum ratio, right? Do scum need to equal half of town players or half of all living players?

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The mafia must have half of all living players. There were seven living players last DP but only two mafia. The mafia could not have won yesterday, and even if we had mislynched, the game would be at five living players and two mafia, which means the mafia still would not win even today.

I wish this had been made clear last DP when we all asked about it. I had thought that scum needed to equal half of town, not all living players. My mistake, and I apologize.

Scum is either vot or molon. I'm going to read through the last DP again, but I am leaning towards molon being scum.

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"We wondered what happiness would look like if we could give it a physical form...the shape of happiness might resemble glass...even though you don't usually notice it, it's still definitely there. You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light. I doubt that anything else could argue its own existence more eloquently." ~Lelouch

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"We wondered what happiness would look like if we could give it a physical form...the shape of happiness might resemble glass...even though you don't usually notice it, it's still definitely there. You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light. I doubt that anything else could argue its own existence more eloquently." ~Lelouch

1. They are only for the remainder of the 37.2.2. I would prefer that the more experienced halves not vote when their noob partners are online, for these hydras exist only because of their weekend inactivity.

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And I'm much obliged to you for making it clear - that I'm not here."