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A report by the UNDP and Light Weapons Agency describes the south Serbia province, Kosovo, as "the area with the most illegal weapons in Europe."

The report actually states that there are 20 times more illegal weapons in Kosovo than the total weapons possessed by 18,000 KFOR troops and 10,000 members of the UN police and the Kosovo Police Service.

This should not be surprising. Tehran-Riyadh-Ankara made certain their contacts and agents are very well armed.

Europe better re-read the names of the capitals that provided these weapons.

Amazing, you claim some sort of fictional Islamic alliance in the hopes of helping a people (The Albanians) considered by Muslims in the Middle East to be heretics and overly sympathetic to America. Tehran and Riyadh can't agree over a nation as rich as Iraq, yet they've somehow come to an agreement over tiny Kosova, amazing.

And you mention Ankara in your conspiracy as well. It is well known that the majority of arms in Kosova are due to the 1997 collapse of Albania, where they were bought at below market prices. The end.

To the first poster: If that was the case, firearm related crimes would be skyroceting, and Serbia would be very very very nervous.

On the other hand, I would also like to add to Chris's comment that weapons also originated from Switzerland and United States (as well as accessories such as uniforms/survival utilities etc).

The first poster made a funny statement. Turkey, Iran and Saudi Arabia - [drums rolling] - which one of these three is _NOT_ an Ally of USA? Answer: Iran! Hmmmmm maybe he is right, Saudis and Turks armed us but Americans paid for it? :)

Look muslims just want to spread the religion. Look at Bosnia prewar, the muslim population was a liberal, that the saudi's and the mujahadeen (radical islamic fundementalist) have moved in to help in the baatle and since have built hundreds of mosques they are not leaving and the same holds true for the muslim ethnic albanians of kosovo.

Just skimmed through the UNDP site and failed to find the "Kosovo and Weapons" report:

http://www.unmikonline.org/press/2003/mon/Jul/lmm%20100703.htmAs you can see the news item originates from Tanjug. Possible misinformation attempt by Serb authorities.

UNDP has nothing on the subject:http://www.kosovo.undp.org/publications/publications.htm

To the authors of this blogContacting UNDP to verify if such a report exists and comparing it to the reports being made by Serb media and hate sites such as Serbianna, would counter this possible attempt to discredit Kosova.

It would be a great victory for the muslims in the middle east to create a new islamic country in europe. The muslims are starting to get some footing in europe watchout london, paris, berlin, madrid, rome you are next.

Good luck never came from stealing and burning other people's land. These assholes burnt down UNESCO world heritage protected SERBIAN ORTHODOX churches from the 13th century. Yes, the 13th century. Why? why would these animals do that? because that's what they are - animals - not humans.

During the war, KLA generals repeatedly sent home mujahadeen fighters, and turned down aid from Islamic countries in the hope of courting Western support. Fact, the State Department would not have backed a Islamist inspired rebellion, plain and simple.

The Churches that were burnt down only stand because tolerant Albanians selflessly defended them under Turkish rule, as is widely written by Noel Malcolm and other knowledgable historians.

They'll be burned again if that high priest of yours, who orderd the murder of your former prime minister, keeps blessing and kissing the hands of those who kill children. I have this on video and all the world saw it through CNN, BBC, DEUTCHE WELLE, REUTERS etc. etc.

Albanian Catholic churches were burned down by the Serbs and over their ruins Serbs started building theirc which later turned into terrorist cells where Serb Orthodox priests facilitated the work of those killed children. The Serb church today is an iquisition institute. They talk about burning Albanians alive, killing them, about their expulsion, about their anihilation. They talk about anything but the love of God, peace and serenity of the soul.

God has left the Serbian church. Serbs hid the evil in their church, and used it, and then show it to the world as if it were just another church, when the fact is it does not deserve to be called a Church but as the poster above said it, a terrorist cell.

Those Churches will house those who built them, the Albanian Catholics and Orthodox (cause if you didn't notice quite a few "Orthodox" churches are built in the Roman style - thus Catholic).

I think mr. Bugajski is speaking the truth. The best and truest ally kosova has is albania. That is why albania has to play a bigger role in the future. As far as the churches being destroyed goes, i am orthodox and i say the people put the value in those buildings. New churches will be built, better ones that albanian orthodoxs along with serbs will see as buildings of worship and not as extremist's cell. I am sure they were not destroyed because of the difference in religion with the majority as i am sure the serb did not start the war for the same reason. Stop using religion as a scape goat. Focus on the problems at hand.

Anton Kçira, the priest at St. Paul Albanian Catholic church in Rochester Hills, Michigan, was just about to distribute communion when 38-year-old Gjon Pepaj allegedly stood up from the congregation and said, "Yes, I am here!" and shot into the ceiling with a 9mm handgun. As the congregants scattered, according to reports, Pepaj then shot 38-year-old Gjek Isufaj in the back of the head, killing him. Then, according to witnesses, he shot into the air again, said, "I've done what I'm supposed to do," and shot Isufaj once more.

I believe this is the civility of the Albanians you were comparing to the Serbs.

yeah i can see why the name can throw you off. he was kind of a king of my home town and other towns during the ottoman occupation. I know you don't know this but he fought against the turks and they had his head for it. he is one of the many albanian "muslim" leaders of that time that had two tombs. their body in albania and their head in turkey. I am not the only one to praise him. check the greek history if you doubt me. they praise him more than i. his castle in janina is being protected with the outmost care. he didn't force or impose taxes on any orthodox who didn't convert to islam.i am not pro destruction of the churches. do not misunderstand me. they show a lot about our past not to mention they are a place of worship and god's house. however, like during WWII where the pope did not condemn hitler or what he was doing, the priests in those churches took sides. This, still does not justify the act, but if you look at the whole picture you realize that it is not just black and white. like i said i have a lot of kosovar friends and i know new, better churches will be built because the one's destroyed were not out of spite for christians but out of frustration for hypocrisy.

to the 1:23 bloggersome guy in oklahoma decided he'd blow up some people for pregnancy rights. does that make every american an idiot, criminal, terrorist, psycopath? A crime is a crime and should be dealt with accordingly. Hate crimes should be given special care though. However, you can't make generalizations because the government of kosova or albania does not support but condemns very harshly acts of that kind. A serbian border patrol officcer gets only one year for killing a 14-year old "terrorist". He didn't fire no warning shot didn't call, didn't warn, didn't try to arrest, but just used the kid as target practice. Now serbia and kosova have been in war for so long don't you think it would be plausible to say that that was a hate crime, the guard was racist, and the serbian government was not harsh to the extent to make it clear for everyone else that hate crimes are not tolerated even in times like the ones we are living.like i said do not generalize. Albanians have a lot to learn and change but than again everyone does, serbs included.

First of all how did the border police officer now the boy was 14 and not an 18, how did he know the boy was Albanian and not Serbian, Roma, Turk, Macedonian. I think its hard to tell from 100 meters away. I don't think he was racist, he was doing his job to protect the border. If the ethnic Albanian boy was to cross the border in a legitimate fashion and not break the law he would have been safe.

that is very true and very plausible. although someone can say only albanians cross that border. Your version does not hold water for the simple fact that the guard shot and killed the trespasser without warning. he may have been someone searching for political asylym, he may have been... he may have been many things. the fact is the guard did not perform his duties as he should, on that part of the border only albanians (at least for the most part) move and last but not least you just don't shoot people like that. however, how would you feel if someone rushed to conclusions. My point exactly.

you are completely missing the point. the guard's job is not to shoot people, if it is you have other problems. it was not an invasion, it was a simple HUMAN being crossing A border. Tell me where have you heard a board guard has shot a tresspasser without warning. Like I said he may have been a racist he may have not. The serbian government may have made him an example to scare away hate crimes or may have found out that it was just not a hate crime. the fact remains that on both sides of the border there are only albanians living so if the guard had to take a guess (like he did when he considered the kid a threat to national security) he would guess that the kid was albanian. it is true the kid should have passed at a legal border crossing but that is in no way an excuse for the way the situation was handled. should we clasify all serbia as a place where hate crime is tolerated? some guy gets killed in the states and automatically his behaviour applies to all albanians? common use your brains? what next? all catholics are nazis since they did nothing to prevent holocaust?

Ali, what I am saying is when this epoisode accord there was no comments from the ethnic albanian leadership to the ethnic albanian citizens that this should be a lesson to you to cross the border at the legal crossing. The only thing said was why did the serbs kill this innocent boy. Well the Serbs government is punishing the guard for his poor judgement, I am yet to here the ethnic albanian leadersip call on all ethnic albanian citizens to obey and respect the laws.

Oh, by the way I am not sure if there was a verbal warning by the guard to the boy. If there was and and the boy kept going I can believe that could have happened anywhere in the world. especially in this day and age of global terrrorism.

i am glad that you think that way. i am not protecting kosovars blindly. they have made mistakes too, some out of frustration and some out of revenge. the fact that kosovar politician's did not say anything to the masses is nothing compared to what the Serbian politicians did and said when a serbian police officer was wounded by unknown people. they went on and called it a hate crime imedeately even though the officer was protecting an albanian object, therefore making it unlikely for an albanian to hurt him. I think the reason for that is to show the world how unstable kosova is, which it sure is, but it is not as unstable as depicted and change has been made not to mention that the longer this "no status" continues the longer the kosova's serbs will have to endure insecurities and fear.Are we still going to point fingers at each other like we did before the war? The fact remains that both countries are in the region to stay. I say we should both appoligize (serbia first, like a superpower that it claims to be and almost is, to show good will) and move on.

to the 3:59 blogger.that would happen if the kid was called to stop in a urban area by the police and he ran away. the kid did not run away and i am pretty sure the border is not guarded by just one guard. they could have very well chosen to arrest the kid. Deadly force is used as a last resort everywhere. there are so many if-s the point was not to generalize but at the same time do not tolerate stuff like this when both nations are trying to set differencies aside and accept each-other.

The only problem with your solution is that kosovo is an emotional topic for Serbs. For them to give it up is like giving up who they are. Without once history one becomes lost. Look at the poor African American's, these people were brought to America separated from their families and their homes. After several generations they have adopted american culture and history as their own, but still feel a sence of emptyness since they don't know what part of Africa they are from.

you are right and what you say makes a lot of sense but independence was the only way for albanians to get their rights that all god's children deserve. You were looking down on albanians as second hand citizens and treated them as such and some of you still do. you forgot to say that as citizens of yugoslavia they should get the same rights that you take for granted. we have a less minority here in albania and there is a minister of greek origin in the new government. The greek minority in albania has its own schools (some funded by the government most funded by greece) and every minority in albania has the same chance as anyone else to higher education. people are not judged on their race, religion, or gender but on their deeds. You should have done the same thing. Now it is too late, and the fact remains that Serbia has not yet appoligized for being the reason why this whole mess started. It is the 21-st century and we still look back milleniums ago. and for what? to learn who we are and where we came from? I don't think so, not anymore. we are looking for reasons to justify the abuse of rights that is going on.

(some funded by the government most funded by greece, this line is very interesting. Why then is it the sole responsiblitly for Belgrade in Serbia and Skopje in Macedonia and Athens in Greece to fund their ethnic albanian minority program, Why didn't Albania step up to the plate and offer to subsidize these programs for their ethnic kin as the case of the government of Greece.

very true why indeed. I think you do know that Greece still claims south of albania is greek when the chams case has still to be heard. why does the government of albania allows this land thirsty country to intervene in our bussines. What greece is doing, does more good. people are being schooled and educated. it is true, albania should have helped, but albania was so busy trying to help itself from the dark era of Enver Hoxha. the albanian schools here in the states are not fonded from the albanian government but from the american one. the point being it was not a problem of availability. if the serbian government couldn't than everyone could understand that. it was a problem that the serbian government didn't want to. Denying rights to its own citizen. that is wrong. you have to admit that.

What about March 2004, ethnic albanians orchastrated the final push of Serbs and other minorities from Kosovo-Metohija. They made up a story about Serbs chasing children with dogs into a river. Just like all the other lies that have been told for the sake of independence.

Ali, Here in the United States you are required to study English if you choose to study your native tongue IN ADDITION to English the cost comes out of your own pocket. And believe me if Serbia could pay for Albanian language lessons than the United States should have no problem.

very true what you guys are saying. when in rome do as the romans do. however. you can't say the picture is black and white. the fact of the matter is kosova was not rome, meaning it wasn't serb, not because it was populated by a majority of albanians, it wasn't serb because serbia itself decided not to accept their votes as equal, and there was a ceiling of how high the government's ladder a kosovar could climb. frankly, in other words the serbian government alianated its self from kosova. And that is not looking at the full picture. the united states is made out of countries that speak english. ex-yugoslavia was not a homogenius language speaking country. it was a confederation of different countries with different ethnic groups and customs. what or why or how do you arrive in the conclusion that the serbian language is the one, the first, that everyone else has to learn in higher education? the answer is not that easy. and war or oppresion is deffinitely not the right answer. you guys made a mess. you chose the wrong way to answer the different problems that arose. it is true albanians made mistakes too and probably they forced some serb out from intimidation ( i don't know i admit it) but you have done the same thing too. you drove close to a million away. i am not saying an eye for an eye but give it time. like i have said before albanians will treat the serb minority as kosovars and full and equal citizens so be patient and offer assistance not hate.

Ali, when you say that the Serb government didn't except kosovar vote as equal you make it sould as if it were anti-albanian you forget that Serb votes in kosovo were counted equally as the albanians. As for the language Kosovo is a PROVINCE of Serbia hence the offical language taken will be that of the country not the province. The united States isn't made up of countries rather states. They call the United States the melting pot because what ever you are coming in you end up American. Keep your own culture through private means, (speak your language at home, but it's english at work) but it will not be subsidized by public money.

When Yugoslavia was formed the offical language was Serbo-Croatian because of the similiarities in the languages and the size of the whole population that spoke these languages. Why is it that the Slovenians, Montenegrians, Bosnian and Macedonians, Romas and Turks were fine with this except for the ethnic albanians.

War is hell and when push comes to shove bad things happen. The ethnic albanians kept attacking the authorize (police) in kosovo. Every country in the world would sends its military to prevent these types of attacks on their police. Heck just a few weeks ago in the U.S., the military was sent into New Orleans to keep order with orders shoot to kill.

Ali, its me again, lets say an albanian went to Pristina Uiversity and studied to became a doctor, he/she studied albanian only. After graduation there were no openings in kosovo but there were openings in Belgrade or Nis or Novi Sad, how is that doctor suppose to get that job in his/her country when they don't understand the medical language to be competent. To be a successful country there can only be One offical language as a standard for society to function.

you completely missed the point again. kosovars do speak serb and that is not what i was saying. what i was saying is that their vote was not taken in consideration as it should have been for a citizen of yugoslavia. you compare everything with the U.S. but you fail to realize that things and circumstances are much different. tell me if it was possible for an albanian (or even thinkable) to become yugoslavias leader. i don't think so. it was a province you are right and as such what? it does not or should not get the same rights as every other federate. where does it say that citizens of the same country should not deserve equal rights based on the group that they belonged to, minorities, or to a province. the moment the kosovars started asking for what they deserved is not out of the blu. the croations and BiH did the same thing. don't you think your government chose the wrong way of dealing with the problems? what is past is past. for one reason or another both countries Serbia and Kosova showed to each other and the world that they can't live together. I can't imagine why Serbia would still want kosova. you can't send away all those albanians and if it meant so much to you guys you would have thought twice before choosing war.

to the 3.37 blogger.you are right it can't. and there should be only one language however since a vast minority speaks an other language it should be considered as a second language. AND ABOVE ALL THERE SHOULD BE NO ONE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN ONE CITIZEN FROM ANOTHER BASED ON THEIR ETHNICITY OR RELIGION.

The Albanians shot the first bullet at the police at that point all bets are off! And no a province will never hold the same weight as a republic within Yugoslavia. Kosovo was on the same level as vojvodina not Croatia and Bosnia. By the way Stjepan Mesic was the last president of Yugoslavia and he is a Croat and Tito the guy that created alot of the laws was also a Croat, so don't sit there and blame Serbs exclusively for albanian political asperations.

You say that kosovo albanians spoke Serbo-Croatian, was that bychoice?

And no a province will never hold the same weight as a republic within Yugoslavia. this sentence is very interesting. what do you mean by weigh. what in the world is that supposed to mean? are the people living in that province citizens of the same country that you and everyone else called home? Dude this is the 21-st century? if you call them citizens of yugoslavia you have to give them the rights that they deserve, and if you don't, well, we all know what happened. the only thing that could happen. The Albanians shot the first bullet at the police at that point all bets are off! this is another interesting sentence. All albanians got together and decided to shoot the police. they decided to declare war, right? unarmed, unorganized, is that what you are trying to believe. what do you think made them do it? common man be real. i have said it before everyone, both sides have made mistakes but to throw all the blame on albanians and not accept your own fault it will only leave the door open for more mistakes to come.

The citizens of kosovo voted under the auspice of Serbia since it is a province of Serbia and no other republic. The citizens of kosovo make up less than 20% of the total population of Serbia and even less of the former yugoslavia. That is why their votes felt undervalued too the many ethnic albanians of kosovo. When excluding the other ethnicities of kosovo the ethnic albanian vote gets even more diluted.