Security Guard tries to take pistol from OC'er.

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Wow talk about jackpot...got to teach a good lesson to a donkeys behind and I hope he has picked out the new toys "the big box store" will buy for him. The moment the guard touched him is it not considered assault? ...I think so. Assaulted by an employee of a big store I bet they want to keep it quiet.

Touching Someone

Originally Posted by hengst

Wow talk about jackpot...got to teach a good lesson to a donkeys behind and I hope he has picked out the new toys "the big box store" will buy for him. The moment the guard touched him is it not considered assault? ...I think so. Assaulted by an employee of a big store I bet they want to keep it quiet.

Whenever you touch someone without their consent is Nevada that is considered a crime of "battery." In Nevada that is an ARRESTABLE offense. One security company I worked for explained that in great detail. You can NEVER touch anyone without their consent. If you touch someone that person may decide to have you arrested for "battery."

If I were to have touched the shoplifting suspect that would have put myself, my employer as well as the store where the "alleged" shoplifting suspect in a legally questionable situation. I would have been terminated at the least.

As another poster said..... I do believe the guard committed assault when he grab the guy oc'ing. I myself would press charges against the store. Could be a payday in it for him.(sorry I'm greedy lol) And I also wonder If he was an armed or unarmed guard. An unarmed guard touching a gun could also be another issue.

Either way the security guard messed up and the store should be liable for his actions.

When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. - Thomas Jefferson

Well he's lucky he just suffered some Pop Nots and not any bullet holes. I just cant imagine what the security dummy was thinking.

Thinking?
Sure doesn't seem like he did any thinking at all. Any idiot that thinks they are going to walk up behind me and take my firearm, would immediately be suspected of possily trying to use it on me and could end up in very serious condition, or worse.

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poorly or zero training

Yes, the guard should have spoken to the man. If he was worried, he should have called the cops and let them do a field interview.
Just grabbing a person and trying to take the gun, it could have been an insane guard getting ready to go postal.

I am reminded of the armed guard in California 20 some years ago who shot and killed a woman because she was in the express lane with too many items at the grocery store. He told her to move several times and then shot her.

Whether it is a guard at the Piggly-Wiggly, or a TSA agent, a uniform does not mean qualified.

One of my greatest areas of shame in life is that on occasion between better jobs, I have prostituted my military/LEO training out to these "security" agencies for a paycheck. I know a man's gotta do what he's gotta do to put food on the family table, but I was always horrifically embarrassed by the overwhelming majority of my co-workers.

While many security guards are former/retired military or LE, the vast majority are those who want to wear a badge and carry a gun, but can't qualify for military or civil service due to mental, moral, and/or physical deficiencies.

Some of the old vets and I used to roll our eyes. Some of these dweebs were the literal "mall ninjas" we despise in this online community. I've been following this story on the Georgiapacking site quite closely. It will be interesting and educational to all of us to see how this turns out.

If you're a praying person, please keep this man in mind in the days and weeks to come. If you're not, please send good "vibes" or whatever you believe his way. Next time it could be one of us.