Garbage’s Shirley Manson Calls Out Big Name Actor For Being A Pedophile

Garbage singer Shirley Manson has called out late Glee actor Mark Salling for being a pedophile. Salling recently hung himself just weeks ahead of his sentencing for charges of possessing child pornography featuring children as young as 3 years old being sexually abused.

Manson tweeted, “Mark Sailing was a pedaphile who stockpiled pics+vid of children as young as 3yrs old being sexually abused. Stop with the sympathetic media.”

She also discussed the #MeToo and #TimesUp sexual assault movements in a new Yahoo interview.

“I feel like the conversation is being had and it is a really significant cultural moment, and it’s on everybody’s lips. I think that will affect a generation of men and women — or everyone on the spectrum, let’s say. I think it’s never going to change people who have serious sexual problems. There’s always going to be predators out there, and they will prey on anyone. No amount of discussion and no amount of analysis will ever change that; some people are sick in the head, and that’s just how it goes. But I do think it will give pause to the average [man of] power and privilege that thinks he can just take what he wants, when he wants, without consequence. I do think that’s one of the greatest things that we’ll take from this moment in time.

Above all things, we must encourage people to speak out, and continue to speak out. It’s about using your voice. If you don’t use your voice, you’re eradicated by history. That’s just how it’s always been. You must be a witness to your own experience. And at this time when we’re all so busy broadcasting, we really all need to stop and listen, and actually pay attention, and see, and hear, and try, and reeducate our children. A lot of it’s about education. It’s about teaching people what is right and what is wrong, what’s appropriate and what’s not.”

Mark Sailing was a pedaphile who stockpiled pics+vid of children as young as 3yrs old being sexually abused.Stop with the sympathetic media.

I understand that it is very freeing to speak out about inappropriate behaviour or abuse, but some people wish privacy and they need to be considered as well. There isn’t just one way to handle this big issue we’re discussing at this time. I think one really important point that is being missed is that a woman or man, an adult or a young person, with the help of their parents, should immediately contact the police. That should be done absolutely immediately upon any criminal act taking place.

Kay B

Shirley I an’t agree more. I can’t believe these threads of people talking about this Glee guy like he was the victim. “I am praying for him…RIP Mark….how sad it came down that he felt like he had to end his life…” RIP? For real? He watched thousands of children getting abused. A 3 yo? And then he took the easy way out so he did not have to pay out the victims or serve his much needed prison time. And hung himself next to a park where kids play all the time. My heart goes out to those kids not this deviant.

makingconnections

I think we have to be completely intolerant of anyone who abuses a child. It’s the worst possible crime and in descriptions of pedophilia that I have read, it describes the disease as being completely incurable. Predators will use any manipulative behaviour they can come up with to be near children. It’s a crime that should be a life sentence and this is a liberal-thinking person speaking. Why should we have to live in fear when as it is here in our country, we are informed when such criminals are released from prison and informed of where they will live. It’s the only way that I can see to protect our children completely. There lives must be horrible when they try to settle anywhere on the outside. Some have hated themselves so much that they’ve even as for surgical interventions so that they can never re-offend. They’re better off living behind bars.

Trovoid

Obviously there are some out there who hate themselves for it and try to refrain from committing an act. If people are scared to ask for help with depression, I can only imagine how a pedophile must feel. The only alternatives to jail that I can think of is regular therapy and sex drive decreasing drugs (or full-on chemical castration). The problem is that they’re not going to ask for help, temptations arise, and then another child is completely violated and their life is altered in the worst way possible. It’s terrifying to think of how many are just out there, living all around us.

I have no solution in regards to these thoughts. Clearly pedophilia deserves its stigma (unlike depression) considering the nature of the crime. At the same time, I guess we need to find a way of getting these types of people comfortable enough to tell a professional about their twisted impulses? I have no idea.

Just me thinking out loud..

makingconnections

I have strong feelings about abuse of children obviously….I believe it’s comparable to cold-blooded murder to hurt a child in such a way. I know I’m not balanced in my thinking, but I’ve seen the darkness of the crimes these people commit.
The only solution besides incarceration I can think of is what a group of men in a town in England did. Every time a pedophile was released from prison, someone from their group accompanied him every time he left his home. They were not unkind nor buddies, just trying to deal with a serious problem in a human way. I admired those men so much when I read about it, but how could it be kept up?
I think you’re right though, they probably don’t all hate themselves; some are probably in complete denial….some even think they are being loving towards children. I think it’s the darkest aspect of being human–so upsetting.

Trovoid

It’s understandable to have such an emotional reaction to something like this. I could see that working (with what the men in England did). Although I suppose it would be quite a taxing job/service to constantly follow them around. I guess anything is worth a try at this point.

That’s terrifying to think. I can’t imagine how sheltered somebody must be to think that what they’re doing is okay and is loving towards children. It must be extreme denial of the psyche.

makingconnections

I think all of our various mental illnesses will be found to be chemically carried somehow and we’ll maybe treat people well in the future. Pedophilia is probably another mental illness, but can be learned behaviour as well. When I think of the people who commit the crimes, I don’t hate them, I do hate the illness though and feel that they need to be protected from themselves somehow, as well as making certain they don’t act on their compulsions. (It was an old priest that I saw interviewed on TV – a documentary, who thought he was being loving and the children loved him too.) It enrages me that The Church has protected these men because they’re ordained.
When I say I’d like to see them locked up, I don’t mean in a regular prison setting where they’d really suffer. I’d like them to be able to experience nature, have books to read and never be mixing it up in society and destroying young children’s lives.

makingconnections

Thanks for talking to me about this Trovoid. It always helps to look at the darkness with another person.

Trovoid

Hey MC, this is so weird.. I just read that a bill is being considered for chemical castration of sex offenders in Oklahoma. This was right after our discussion, how strange is that?

makingconnections

Very strange….we’re just floating around in the cosmos picking up information as we appear to be ordinary citizens!!

makingconnections

I am so afraid of child abusers and yet I don’t trust this solution either…I wish we could spend way more money on research on mental issues and maybe someday cure people of this condition. We always just come up with stop-gap measures. Serious research isn’t being done on mental illness in all its forms in my opinion..blah, blah blah she says…

Trovoid

No, I hear you completely.

makingconnections

Trovoid, I was sorting through my papers and found this part of a poem that I love and maybe you will too (Irish poet)
From The Cure At Troy

So hope for a great sea-change
On the far side of revenge.
Believe that a farther shore
Is reachable from here.
Believe in miracles
And cures and healing wells.

Seamus Heaney

Trovoid

I like it. I tend to use the elements of nature to convey points in my lyrics/poetry so I can definitely appreciate that. I looked up the rest of the poem and it has really nice flow and contains great imagery.

makingconnections

Yes, I have the poem in a small book. I always picture him writing in a stone house overlooking the sea in Ireland…I have no idea where he lived. I should read about him, Mr. Heaney.

makingconnections

Hey Trovoid, I’m going to delete this soon so I hope you’re around, but I just have to tell you that when I was in Greece I kissed a man from Troy…Imagine!

makingconnections

I’m a bragging idiot! He was a Spartan. I can’t get my important life facts straight!!

Trovoid

Haha. Don’t be so hard on yourself, love. Are you sure he was a Spartan? Google is telling me that he was Irish born. His name sure sounds Irish. At the same time the title is “The Cure At Troy.” It appears that it’s an adaptation of something else?

makingconnections

No, you missed my first post that I deleted…this ones going down soon too….I bragged that when I was in Greece I kissed a guy from Troy, then remembered no, he was from Sparta. It’s the poem that made me remember. I can make a day become full of crazy stuff. I know that Seamus Heaney is Irish…geez Trovoid!

Trovoid

Well geez MC you’re confusing me here!

I actually am 25 percent Greek. Never got to go there but I have family I’ve never met there. It seems beautiful from what my mom has told me.

Way to confuse the guy’s origins!! And come on Seamus Heaney totally sounds like a Spartan name, right? 😉

makingconnections

Greece is my favorite place on this planet. You must go there!!

Trovoid

I would love to one day. Currently I have anxiety about flying and have become, for lack of a better word, agoraphobic. It has made me enjoy travelling less.

PS I will probably delete my comment to (even though it’s clear that what I said could apply to a bunch of others on the planet.)

makingconnections

O.K., and yes, you and many others at one time or other…it’s not a life-time condition.

Take care and I’m deleting my nonsense!

makingconnections

What is the thing about some women (maybe some men, I don’t know) who become fascinated with criminals, usually murderers and some even marry those convicted of horrendous crimes. We are strange creatures, us humans.

Kay B

I like reading up on criminals because of the psychological aspect. But the women who go and marry these guys in jail…why is that allowed? And they get free education? Meanwhile most of us working 40 plus hrs a week are still paying off student loans.

makingconnections

I know what you mean. It is fascinating how crimes are committed. I went through a period of reading a lot of that sort of thing, especially by Joyce Carol Oates, who is a really engaging author. I think I stopped because I read a detailed article about the murder of a boy in Toronto by 5 men who tortured him. I became haunted by it and upset and so wished I didn’t ever read what they did. Now I can’t watch any drama where hurting a child is involved, even in the slightest way. My kids say: “There she goes..haha.” I also can’t watch anything about someone having numbness in their extremities because I’m afraid of getting MS. I’m getting over it now I think…but for some reason children are very entertained by having a neurotic mother!!

Kay B

Yes anything with kids is horrible to hear. I am currently reading the police manuscripts of the Jeffery Dahmer case. I find it interesting since I was around 14 when that happened and being from WI it was on the local news. It’s weird hearing about places he went to that I have been to as well. Malls, stores, pubs….ect. I was reading the other day about how they hope they have closed in on the Black Dahlia murderer. That is another interesting case. Jeff Dahmer and Ted Bundy were brutal and sick. But they were also good looking and had very high IQs. It’s all very interesting.

makingconnections

Yes, I know how it is when it’s local–it makes it very real.
There are people around me who lost daughters at the Picton Farm…near Vancouver. Robert Picton murdered so many women at his pig farm. You couldn’t come up with more horrific novels if you wanted to be creative as some of these people did in real life! Yikes, I’m home alone tonight…I think I’ll check the basement door.

Kay B

Ah yes the Pickton murders. He had an IQ around 86 which is low but above retardation. That was an unfortunate time as well. The whole Steven Avery thing happened a few hrs from here. I saw the Netflix thing on it and read the book by the prosecutor. Even though he was not guilty and spent 18 yrs behind bars for something he didn’t do I have a feeling he had something or at least knows what happened to Theresa. My gut tells me anyway.I want everyone to know we all do not speak like that screwed up Avery family in WI.

makingconnections

I haven’t watched it, but have heard that there’s something to be learned from it…probably about the system.
There’s a feeling among the people around here that more than one person was involved in the Picton case. Sometimes people are willing to take the fall I suppose.