Does anyone think that his receiving a 4 on the Wonderlic will effect his draft stock? I don't think it will considering algebra and verbal skills aren't what make All-Pro conerbacks. I just think that it will be awesome to see a guy have a lower or same Wonderlic score than his draft spot. It has to be a record (for someone taken in the top ten).

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If a cornerback who runs a 4.54 40 is chasing a ball carrier who runs a 4.61 40 and has 12 yards to make up at a constant 37 degree angle starting at your own 26 when, if ever does the intersection take place. Now present your answer in a grammatically correct blue book by 4:30PM on Friday April 20. See it is important. I don't feel like working on an answer, maybe some of the inteligentsia who participate in these forums will work it out, I

General wrote:If a cornerback who runs a 4.54 40 is chasing a ball carrier who runs a 4.61 40 and has 12 yards to make up at a constant 37 degree angle starting at your own 26 when, if ever does the intersection take place. Now present your answer in a grammatically correct blue book by 4:30PM on Friday April 20. See it is important. I don't feel like working on an answer, maybe some of the inteligentsia who participate in these forums will work it out, I

andrew6586 wrote:Does anyone think that his receiving a 4 on the Wonderlic will effect his draft stock? I don't think it will considering algebra and verbal skills aren't what make All-Pro conerbacks. I just think that it will be awesome to see a guy have a lower or same Wonderlic score than his draft spot. It has to be a record (for someone taken in the top ten).

SD:

I dunno man , what about those guys who played without face masks for thefirst 50 years of pro ball .

You gotta believe some of thos puppies couldn't spell cat if you spotted em the k .

A four on the wunderic , he'll have no problem playing the island , not to many thougts gonna get in his way to distarct him :)

Early Tuesday morning news circulated that LSU cornerback Morris Claiborne, likely a top pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, scored a four on his Wonderlic test, a test of basic intelligence administered to players at the annual Scouting Combine. According to Greg Gabriel at the National Football Post, Claiborne has a learning disability.

Details about Claiborne's learning disability are unknown, but Gabriel did say that he understood it to have something to do with the young man's reading ability. Gabriel goes on to say that Claiborne has worked hard in spite of the disability, taking advantage of resources offered by the school for his classwork.

e0y2e3 wrote:Somebody needs to beat the shit out of whoever leaked this score:

Early Tuesday morning news circulated that LSU cornerback Morris Claiborne, likely a top pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, scored a four on his Wonderlic test, a test of basic intelligence administered to players at the annual Scouting Combine. According to Greg Gabriel at the National Football Post, Claiborne has a learning disability.

Details about Claiborne's learning disability are unknown, but Gabriel did say that he understood it to have something to do with the young man's reading ability. Gabriel goes on to say that Claiborne has worked hard in spite of the disability, taking advantage of resources offered by the school for his classwork.

I'm a special ed teacher and work with kids like this everyday. Learning disabilities are different for everyone. I've had some kids get a 28 on their ACT and others that will never graduate. Morris has rights and it seems that he didn't receive the accommodations that he is supposed to get on tests. For those of you that don't know, they can be things like having the test read aloud, extended time for assessments, frequent breaks, use of a calculator, test in a small group, and other things. Kids are supposed to get these for all standardized and classroom tests pre-college and during college. Not sure if tests like the Wonderlic are considered "standardized" or not but he should have received the accommodations.

How is this relevant to a football player's performance? Even for a QB? Is the DT going to ask Tom Brady about motorcycle oil or how many days Jeff can go without repeating the same outfit before the snap?

e0y2e3 wrote:Somebody needs to beat the shit out of whoever leaked this score:

Early Tuesday morning news circulated that LSU cornerback Morris Claiborne, likely a top pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, scored a four on his Wonderlic test, a test of basic intelligence administered to players at the annual Scouting Combine. According to Greg Gabriel at the National Football Post, Claiborne has a learning disability.

Details about Claiborne's learning disability are unknown, but Gabriel did say that he understood it to have something to do with the young man's reading ability. Gabriel goes on to say that Claiborne has worked hard in spite of the disability, taking advantage of resources offered by the school for his classwork.

I'm a special ed teacher and work with kids like this everyday. Learning disabilities are different for everyone. I've had some kids get a 28 on their ACT and others that will never graduate. Morris has rights and it seems that he didn't receive the accommodations that he is supposed to get on tests. For those of you that don't know, they can be things like having the test read aloud, extended time for assessments, frequent breaks, use of a calculator, test in a small group, and other things. Kids are supposed to get these for all standardized and classroom tests pre-college and during college. Not sure if tests like the Wonderlic are considered "standardized" or not but he should have received the accommodations.

There are 8 different kinds of intelligence.

1. Linguistic Intelligence -- the gift of words.Linguistically intelligent people best understand the world through the spoken and written word.

2. Visual/Spatial Intelligence -- the gift of picturesVisually intelligent people best understand the world throughvisualization and spatial orientation.

3. Musical -- The gift of musicMusically intelligent people best understand the world through rhythm and melody.

4. Bodily Kinesthetic Intelligence -- the gift of bodyPhysically intelligent people best understand the world throughphysicality.

5. Logical/Mathematical -- the gift of logic and numbersMathematically and Logically intelligent people best understand the world through cause and effect.

6. Interpersonal Intelligence -- the gift of peopleSocially intelligent people best understand the world through the eyes of others.

7. Intrapersonal -- the gift of selfIntrapersonally intelligent people best understand the world from their unique point of view.

8. Naturalist Intelligence -- the gift of natureEnvironmentally intelligent people best understand the world through their own environment.

The Wonderlick score has nothing to do with Claiborn's #4, which I'm sure is at genius level.

e0y2e3 wrote:Somebody needs to beat the shit out of whoever leaked this score:

Early Tuesday morning news circulated that LSU cornerback Morris Claiborne, likely a top pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, scored a four on his Wonderlic test, a test of basic intelligence administered to players at the annual Scouting Combine. According to Greg Gabriel at the National Football Post, Claiborne has a learning disability.

Details about Claiborne's learning disability are unknown, but Gabriel did say that he understood it to have something to do with the young man's reading ability. Gabriel goes on to say that Claiborne has worked hard in spite of the disability, taking advantage of resources offered by the school for his classwork.

The Wonderlic is stupid anyway. I've always thought that they should have a standardized test that was made up of analyzing X's and O's, formations, coverages, etc. You know, stuff that actually pertained to football.

andrew6586 wrote:Does anyone think that his receiving a 4 on the Wonderlic will effect his draft stock? I don't think it will considering algebra and verbal skills aren't what make All-Pro conerbacks. I just think that it will be awesome to see a guy have a lower or same Wonderlic score than his draft spot. It has to be a record (for someone taken in the top ten).

SD:

Charlie Casserly said when they had guys they knew couldn't read they gave them a different test to see if they could pick up what thy had to do ,too do the job .

Lester Hayes had a stuttering impairment ,, couldn't say see spot jump without taking 15 minutes , but he worked his ass off and overcame his handicap .

This was deliberate sabotage to drop this kids stock , for anybody dumb enough to think tackling and covering a wide out has anything to do with Shakesphere.

One thing to play M2M and basic college zone vs 4.6ers from Misissippi State. Another thing to ball on Sunday. Kid is too dumb to be an elite NFL prospect and doesn't run a 4.3 and isn't 6'0".

Pass.

Depends on dumb v. legit reading disability.

Right. Because they allow for ADA school accommodations strategies when he's trying to learn and digest a unique NFL game plan in 2 days.

If he were 6'1" and ran a 4.3 then maybe I'd think differently. I just don't se the measurables that make him worth it. This is also wrong of me, but I am influenced by the lack of production from Peterson the year prior. As an elite CB prospect he's a hell of a PR. I thnk that whole D is the shizznit.

One thing to play M2M and basic college zone vs 4.6ers from Misissippi State. Another thing to ball on Sunday. Kid is too dumb to be an elite NFL prospect and doesn't run a 4.3 and isn't 6'0".

Pass.

Depends on dumb v. legit reading disability.

Right. Because they allow for ADA school accommodations strategies when he's trying to learn and digest a unique NFL game plan in 2 days.

If he were 6'1" and ran a 4.3 then maybe I'd think differently. I just don't se the measurables that make him worth it. This is also wrong of me, but I am influenced by the lack of production from Peterson the year prior. As an elite CB prospect he's a hell of a PR. I thnk that whole D is the shizznit.

Now if the Badger scores a 4? I might take him anyway.

Half the guys in the meetings can't fucking think. If MoCla can't think then no interest. If MoCla can't read then tell him what ya need and teach him to read in March/April/May

Same reason you didn't read the Nicholas Sparks novels but saw them so you could understand them. You don't need to read to learn how poignant and emotonal those Sparks stories are JB.

Under a hypothetical scenario, if he dropped down to 22, I'd be cool with picking him up.

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

mattvan1 wrote:The most amusing aspect of this entire thread is that the test which was linked is not an actual Wonderlic test. So all you guys can stop pulling an oblique trying to pat yourselves on the back.

Disclaimer: This is not a Wonderlic test and the scores derived from it may not accurately reflect the score you would attain on the Wonderlic test.

Disclaimer: I have taken the Wonderlic and this one is actually more complicated.