Snout wrote:when Jack Kent Cooke died and John Cooke was running the team, that wasn't so great either because John Cooke just liked being rich and could care less about football.

Maybe that's the kind of owner we need now; one that tends ONLY to the money matters and leaves the football decisions up to the staffers who actually know football. Instead we have Danny Boy, a basket weaver who insists on making decisions about rocket science.....

HarleyHog wrote:Bu-byeyou could whine the same way as a fan of any number of teams. Just buy yourself a jersey for whoever are reigning champs and call them "your boys" until It's time to get a new jersey. Sounds like you'll be happier that way

Nope. I'm a one-team guy. I don't root for or follow "sports", only TEAMS. One team per league. Now with that gone, there's nothing left for me to follow in the NFL.

Deadskins wrote:We've had 3 playoff appearences (the last just 3 years ago) over that time and won two playoff games, so it hasn't really been that long. I'm frustrated too, but I'll always be a Skins fan. I was born one and I'll die one. That's just the way I roll.

There's only ONE NFL game per year that means anything. It's now played the first Sunday in February. This team hadn't come close to getting there since their last trip in 1992. Sorry, 19 years is too long of a wait, especially since it doesn't look like they'll be there again any time soon.

(d)oink wrote:Dang, dude. I know losing blows but without Redskin football every week what is there? I mean seriously?

There are a LOT of other things that I can invest my time, energy, and money in besides this team. Life is an investment in my mind. I've invested a lot of time in this team and I don't see ANY return on that investment, so it's time to cut the losses and move on, just like you would do in the stock market.

Skinsfan55 wrote:I know it's off topic, but I just don't understand this line of reasoning. The Patriots are a well run organization from top to bottom. They have a popular franchise QB who's never been in any kind of trouble, they have an excellent coach who also serves as the top personnel man and they are perpetually good. They have a great understanding of how to stay competitive year after year, they are the kind of team everyone should try to be more like.

How are they what's wrong with the NFL?

They are the poster children for the Socialist, parity driven, mediocrity promoting style of management and play that the NFL is so completely and totally driven by these days. Can you even name 4 players on any of their Championship teams other than Tom Brady? I doubt it. They're full of has-beens and never-will-be's. 53 guys who you wouldn't recognize if you ran into them on the street. They play NOT TO LOSE instead of playing to WIN. That's totally abhorant in my mind. In sports, like War, the idea is to decimate your opponent. To leave him beaten and bloody on the field, completely devoid of desire to continue to resist. That's NOT the style that the Patriots do ANYTHING in.

(d)oink wrote:Dang, dude. I know losing blows but without Redskin football every week what is there? I mean seriously?

There are a LOT of other things that I can invest my time, energy, and money in besides this team. Life is an investment in my mind. I've invested a lot of time in this team and I don't see ANY return on that investment, so it's time to cut the losses and move on, just like you would do in the stock market.

OK. Fair enough. You could hook up with my mother in law and watch the stock ticker all day. Good point. You should be nowhere near the Skins.

Redskins_Fanatic wrote:I'm Done. I'm Out. After three decades watching and rooting for this team, I can't stand it any longer. The absolute, sheer, complete and total lack of talent and/or interest of the players, coaches, management and owner of the Washington Redskins has finally shown through fully enough that I can no longer continue to waste my time, money, energy, and interest on this team.

I will be sending registered letters to Daniel Snyder, Bruce Allen, and Mike Shannahan tomorrow informing them of this.

I wish the best to you all, the fans who continue to brave the great abyss that the Washington Redskins have become; but I cannot continue to be among you and I cannot wish anything other than failure, despair, and disgrace to what this franchise has become.

Scott *****Spencer, MA

This took a lot of guts. To show true emotions and share it with the wolves that prowl around here. Good luck brother.

#21 (36) This IS and will always be the High watermark where all new DB's are measured.

HarleyHog wrote:Bu-byeyou could whine the same way as a fan of any number of teams. Just buy yourself a jersey for whoever are reigning champs and call them "your boys" until It's time to get a new jersey. Sounds like you'll be happier that way

Nope. I'm a one-team guy. I don't root for or follow "sports", only TEAMS. One team per league. Now with that gone, there's nothing left for me to follow in the NFL.

So, GOODBYE already!!!
Get your glass half-empty, can't see the healing for the pain, ain't a redskins fan no mo butt out of the FAN site.
If we get rid of more haters and nattering naybobs of negativity, maybe the players will sense support and respond.92,000 focused wills can be a heck of a 12th man.

Skinsfan55 wrote:I know it's off topic, but I just don't understand this line of reasoning. The Patriots are a well run organization from top to bottom. They have a popular franchise QB who's never been in any kind of trouble, they have an excellent coach who also serves as the top personnel man and they are perpetually good. They have a great understanding of how to stay competitive year after year, they are the kind of team everyone should try to be more like.

How are they what's wrong with the NFL?

They are the poster children for the Socialist, parity driven, mediocrity promoting style of management and play that the NFL is so completely and totally driven by these days. Can you even name 4 players on any of their Championship teams other than Tom Brady? I doubt it. They're full of has-beens and never-will-be's. 53 guys who you wouldn't recognize if you ran into them on the street. They play NOT TO LOSE instead of playing to WIN. That's totally abhorant in my mind. In sports, like War, the idea is to decimate your opponent. To leave him beaten and bloody on the field, completely devoid of desire to continue to resist. That's NOT the style that the Patriots do ANYTHING in.

I guess you did not watch closely in the 2007 season when they literally beat the snot out of everyone they played in going 16-0, and were accused of running it up on a few teams, even our beloved Redskins. I know they eventually fell to the Giants, but they won by an average of about 14 pts. per game. I would say that is leaving people beaten & bloddied on the field.

Hey, I can understand the frustration .... the newbie to the board is experiencing similar frustrations that most of us have had at one time or another.

I recall a time when I allowed what transpired on Sundays to put me into a very foul mood for en extended period of time .... now I limit that effect to game time and a couple of hours afterward.

Regardless of what the Redskins do ... win or lose ... you can bet that whatever sting losing provides you ... the guys on the field who have to wake up today with the physical bruises and pain to go along with the mental agony of losing probably feel it more, and yet they have to deal with the ice and the tape and the aches and go out there and prepare for the next battle.

The best thing you can do is to not take it so personally ... the Redskins didn't lose yesterday just to make you miserable ... and if you do not own a Redskin merchandizing business, and these wins and losses don't impact your ability to feed your children ... well, you have to learn to enjoy the games ... celebrate the wins, and absorb the losses. It's a choice ... and it's up to you whether you choose to allow something you have ABSOLUTELY NO CONTROL over to define your happiness.

Have a nice glass of whisky and a cigar ... but get control of your emotions before you give up watching football on Sundays and take up playing golf instead ... that would likely do you in!

PAPDOG67 wrote:I guess you did not watch closely in the 2007 season when they literally beat the snot out of everyone they played in going 16-0, and were accused of running it up on a few teams, even our beloved Redskins. I know they eventually fell to the Giants, but they won by an average of about 14 pts. per game. I would say that is leaving people beaten & bloddied on the field.

Let's look at that season (which unfortuantely I remember quite well).... They were caught videotaping the practices and signals of the opposing teams. The league had a down year in general. It's also never before or since come even close to being duplicated by the Patriots. It was an abhoration. One which Bill Beliscum even admits he was not totally entusiastic about because it brought added media attention and the like.

2007 was NOT your normal Patriots team. It wasn't what they expect or want to be. That's part of why the league came down on them like a ton of bricks for the Spygate scandal.

RayNAustin wrote:I recall a time when I allowed what transpired on Sundays to put me into a very foul mood for en extended period of time .... now I limit that effect to game time and a couple of hours afterward.

That doesn't work with me. I would be pissed off for this entire WEEK if I still cared anything about this team. Thankfully I don't anymore. I've punched walls, kicked doors, and thrown things through tv sets over Skins games in the past. That's why I don't have any Skins clothing anymore. Not worth the investment.

RayNAustin wrote:The best thing you can do is to not take it so personally ... the Redskins didn't lose yesterday just to make you miserable ... and if you do not own a Redskin merchandizing business, and these wins and losses don't impact your ability to feed your children ... well, you have to learn to enjoy the games ... celebrate the wins, and absorb the losses. It's a choice ... and it's up to you whether you choose to allow something you have ABSOLUTELY NO CONTROL over to define your happiness.

I take EVERYTHING personally. That's part of why I'm Done. There are times when I have had to wonder if they weren't losing on purpose to make me miserable. Enjoyment is not part of sports for me. Nor is it part of ANYTHING competitive that I follow. That's another part of why I'm Done. WINNING is the only thing that is part of sports for me.

RayNAustin wrote:Have a nice glass of whisky and a cigar ... but get control of your emotions before you give up watching football on Sundays and take up playing golf instead ... that would likely do you in!

I don't drink, I don't smoke, and I no longer follow the Redskins. Three things that will probably help keep me from having a heart attack or anuerism at age 40. I'm not a golfer either.

RayNAustin wrote:I recall a time when I allowed what transpired on Sundays to put me into a very foul mood for en extended period of time .... now I limit that effect to game time and a couple of hours afterward.

That doesn't work with me. I would be pissed off for this entire WEEK if I still cared anything about this team. Thankfully I don't anymore. I've punched walls, kicked doors, and thrown things through tv sets over Skins games in the past. That's why I don't have any Skins clothing anymore. Not worth the investment.

RayNAustin wrote:The best thing you can do is to not take it so personally ... the Redskins didn't lose yesterday just to make you miserable ... and if you do not own a Redskin merchandizing business, and these wins and losses don't impact your ability to feed your children ... well, you have to learn to enjoy the games ... celebrate the wins, and absorb the losses. It's a choice ... and it's up to you whether you choose to allow something you have ABSOLUTELY NO CONTROL over to define your happiness.

I take EVERYTHING personally. That's part of why I'm Done. There are times when I have had to wonder if they weren't losing on purpose to make me miserable. Enjoyment is not part of sports for me. Nor is it part of ANYTHING competitive that I follow. That's another part of why I'm Done. WINNING is the only thing that is part of sports for me.

RayNAustin wrote:Have a nice glass of whisky and a cigar ... but get control of your emotions before you give up watching football on Sundays and take up playing golf instead ... that would likely do you in!

I don't drink, I don't smoke, and I no longer follow the Redskins. Three things that will probably help keep me from having a heart attack or anuerism at age 40. I'm not a golfer either.

I think in your case, I would support your decision to stop following. You sound like you have some major anger management problems. Good luck, and chill out dude. A stalk of Sensimilla may help

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