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Political: Cor Development Group

Has anyone ever funded a loan under the Joint Venture program with Cor Development Group out of Cook County, Illinois ? by seekeroftruth August 13, 2010 10:16 PM

Been trying for over 2 years... not one penny disbursed. by jameslewis August 14, 2010 10:22 AM

James Lewis, I would like to know more about your experience with COR out of Cook County, IL. Who are the principals and what did it cost you? by CFTC Investigation August 15, 2010 10:02 AM

CFTC Investigation, is there a phone number or e-mail address that I can use to contact you? I have some questions as well. by notagain August 17, 2010 11:39 AM

They are approving a lot of projects, are they capable of funding within the 60 to 80 days that they promise? by seekeroftruth August 17, 2010 4:40 PM

Seeker:

Is there a phone number I can call to speak with you? by notagain August 17, 2010 5:07 PM

Somehow any post pertaining to Cor Development Group are quickly removed from this site which is very suspicious by seekeroftruth August 17, 2010 6:52 PM

Notgain,

Please leave your contact information and I would be more than happy to contact you. by CFTC Investigation August 18, 2010 8:20 PM

520-245-8830 Glen by notagain August 19, 2010 12:32 AM

Notagain,

Before I have someone call you. Are you a possible victim of COR or a representative?

by CFTC Investigation August 22, 2010 8:54 AM

CFTC Investigation -

I am also looking for additional information about COR. I am not a COR representative. Is there any reason to believe anyone has been victimized? Please feel free to contact me at 312-399-4276.

KB2 by KB2 August 22, 2010 1:54 PM

KB2,

I am gathering information on COR due to a strong complaint. Since you are not a representative, but coincidentally posted a cell number that is located in their area of record, what is your interest? Let's keep things public for now, because I'm sure much more information can be gathered from this thread. If there is something you wish not to share publicly, by all means call 312-596-0700 and ask to be directed to the economics surveillance unit. Any agent can assist you. by CFTC Investigation August 24, 2010 9:45 AM

CFTC Investigation –

Let’s keep this public. My interest in this matter is I represent certain parties who have either entered into Partnership Agreements with COR, or are in the due diligence process. My understanding is several parties have deposited money with the anticipation of funding their projects. With the exception of not meeting certain deadlines contractually agreed upon, (something very common right now in the financing marketplace), COR appears to be doing everything possible to fund it’s commitments. Is there any reason to believe otherwise?

I’m sure there are other interested parties monitoring this thread. If anyone has any other information, please present to this group.

KB2

by KB2 August 24, 2010 7:59 PM

I just found this thread this morning and have been waiting on funding to take place since March 2009. I noticed the last communication was 8/24 and am wondering why the thread stopped at that point.

According to COR, there have been delays caused by federal regulations at every turn. The responses from COR appear to be legitimate so like KB2 I would hesitate to say this is a scam.

However, little if any information has ever been communicated as to the actual funding process and how funds are being raised. Therefore, the wait and lack of information has made this process very wearing on the project partners both financially and mentally.

I would like to hear from anyone that has any additional information. by Guitarslinger September 4, 2010 8:00 PM

We are a commercial enterprise awaiting funding as well. Does anyone have firsthand knowledge of actual funding via the COR partnership agreement and actually having received funds? by Emanon September 4, 2010 11:47 PM

I talk to people who tell me the same stories about Cor and see similar posts on this site. I wouldn't give these guys a dime or waste my time until they start to perform.

Everyone seems to say the same thing, "I started working with them over a year ago and nothing yet". Until they actually perform, I'd stay away. I can't understand the desire to take on more customers if they can't close those that they have in the system unless they are trying to take people's deposits. If they can't perform in the next few days, they are either crooks or too incompetent to ever get it done.

Anyone know just how many people sent money to Cor but have yet to see their deal completed? Has anyone ever completed a deal with Cor?

by Abundanceoffrauds September 8, 2010 12:57 PM

As far as I have heard and researched, no one has been funded by COR -- yet. Alberto Colon says he is registered as a golds broker on the futures market in Chicago. Anybody know anything more than that? by Waitedtoolong September 8, 2010 8:52 PM

I am really glad to see this thread picking up pace.

I am not an agent with CFTC, but I have file a complaint with the agency against COR and I was told a few others have called in and filed their own grievances as well.
KB2 sounds like the Ranger that I am dealing with out of Chicago. Most of the Rangers offer no support to what's going on simply because it's an opportunity of a life time for them. Their positions are much different than the Partners that has development projects hanging by a single roofing nail.

COR has recently gave themselves 48 hours to produce funding amounts that ends today. I hope that is what Alberto Colon meant in his email sent Tuesday, 9/7/2010. Everyone knows that it's never what it appears.

-Abundanceoffrauds

As they continue to take on more victims/Partners, makes a case of fraud against them that much stronger. There is only one reason to take on others after failing repeatedly in funding those your already have.

I guarantee there will NOT be anything coming from COR this week on that 48 hours stall maneuver . It's the same old song. by CFTC Investigation September 9, 2010 12:33 PM

CFTC Investigation –

First off, to reiterate what I have stated previously, I am not a ranger or a representative of COR. I am based out of the Chicago area, and have been asked by certain parties to try and obtain more information about this situation. Since Chicago is the third largest metro area in the country (and the second largest financial center), it stands to reason that several parties (i.e. project partners, rangers, etc.) along with COR itself, are based in the Chicago area. This commonality in geography is pure coincidence.

I believe my interests in this situation to be much the same as yours - To find out additional information. The people I work with have invested a substantial amount of time and money (well beyond the $20K deposit) to develop their projects, create business plans, and go through the steps of having them approved by COR. Since having their projects accepted by COR, they have waited patiently, and incurred additional expense, as COR has worked through its issues to reach the point where we are now. The anticipation that funding will start this week or in short order.

At this point, I have absolutely no reason to believe that COR will not be able to fulfill its commitments. However, I have become somewhat concerned about the perceived priority they place in taking on additional projects as opposed to closing on the ones that they already have in the pipeline – many of which have been in the current holding pattern for several month or longer. I am also concerned about the lack of definitive communication on the part of COR, especially in situations involving timelines. However, I will point out once again, that delays and situations of this nature are VERY common right now in the financial marketplace. I can assure you that this situation and set of circumstance is not specific to people just dealing with COR. Ask anyone looking to raise capital in the financing marketplace. You will hear similar stories. Many even less favorable than this.

My concern is the chance that there is something else going on here. I’ve asked you twice in the past if you have additional information that is contrary to the position I state above. In both cases, you did not provide a response.

I once again ask that if you have some legitimate additional information, please post and present it on this forum. I assure you that several of the project partners, all of whom are eagerly anticipating funding, are monitoring this forum. I think it’s important that if you have new information to present, all parties have an opportunity to discuss it in an open and honest fashion. Open communication is in everyone’s best interest at this time.

KB2

by KB2 September 9, 2010 3:59 PM

Thank you KB2. I appreciate your candor and I humbly apologize for my misrepresentation of you.

The only thing that I can add is that I was informed just this morning that COR has a member of their group being charged with theft and fraud of about $3.5 million in the North Dakota area. I am expecting more information on it later today.

by CFTC Investigation September 9, 2010 4:40 PM

-KB2

About your concern; there is nothing else going on other than feeling everyone out. You never know whom you are chatting with on the www. by CFTC Investigation September 9, 2010 5:07 PM

Obviously, there are a number of frustrated individuals who are feeling each other out. They all share the pattern of having gotten the same canned emails from COR. If no one has been funded after this last deadline and CFTC Investigation seems to know more than the rest of us, is there any other way that we can all make contact and compare notes in a more speedy fashion than this blogging? Since CFTC Invest. has already filed a complaint, he/she may be able to show the rest of us how to also file complaints with the same agent, etc. The 48 hr deadline has also passed. Has anyone heard of anybody else being funded yet? by Waitedtoolong September 9, 2010 7:30 PM

CFTC Investigation -

Thank you for your replies. You mention in a previous reply that you and several others have lodged complaints against COR with the CFTC. Having done this implies to me that there is something serious going on here. Are you able to elaborate as to the basis of these complaints?

Also, do you have any additional information on the member of the COR group that may have legal issues in the North Dakota area?

Both of these may be serious issues and if you have any additional information, I know there are a lot of us that would like to know.

The most recent 48 hour deadline promised by Alberto Colon on a funding announcement expired last night. Has any one received a follow up announcement or direction that their project will fund as promised?

Waitedtoolong's suggestion for all of us to compare notes has merit. If you have any information that you feel will benefit the group, however big or small, please post it to this fourm. As I mentioned previously, many of the project partners and other interested parties are monitoring this.

KB2 by KB2 September 10, 2010 6:55 AM

Well, our 48 hour deadline passed and didn't fund, either. Not even an email of explaination. Last time we asked our Ranger about this internet thread, he just passed it off as "Internet chatter . . . you can't believe that". I wonder what Alberto has to say now? Now I am left wondering what these guys really are? Did they bet our deposits on the gold futures and lose the bet? Are they venture capitolists? Or are they mortgage brokers? I realize now I don't even know enough about how they do business to be able to fill out a complaint with the CFTC right now .... help! by COR gold didn't fund September 10, 2010 10:04 AM

Unfortunately, I have not received any more information on the theft and fraud. That little information came from a creditable Project Partner connected with Ranger G&G here in California.

Filing a complaint is simple. COR has claimed to establishing a public company that involves SEC. This along grabs the attention of the CFTC. Plus, this agency moves much quicker than other agencies in finding out what lurks behind the transparency wall. I exercised this action based on their breach of contract, repeated missed deadlines to fund without reason and their disregard to properly communicate. To sum it up, I'm tired of their foolishness.

by CFTC Investigation September 10, 2010 11:41 AM

CFTC Investigation - you have given the rest of us some good clues, but remain a lone soldier. It sounds like KB2 is trying to organize some of the rest of us. Would you call? I know I am. At this point, this has all the markers of being a well organized fraud if they have Rangers all over the country? What else is there to learn about these people? Did Alberto take this overseas, too? He is listed on B2B as a gold broker to the UK, Chicago, and Brazil..... by COR gold didn't fund September 10, 2010 2:46 PM

Fellow Partners and Interested Parties:

I have been following your comments about the Cor Development Group and Mr. Alberto Colon. Like you, our group has been frustrated with all the delays with false and unperformed promises. I believe it is time to contact your rangers with the idea that you need straight answers to the funding.

The latest email from Alberto stated that he is only waiting for the amount of the first disbursement. This tells us that nothing else needs to be done with the new publicly traded company he partnered up with, the SEC, Finra, the State of California, DTCC, etc. There have been many mis-steps by Alberto that have caused these delays. I think we would all agree to that.

Lets see what happens in the next few days. The 48 hour time frame is up and now it's time to call your rangers and get the answer to the funding. Nothing else is needed or needs to be said. Alberto, it's time to complete the task at hand, let the funding begin.

Thomas13 by Thomas13 September 10, 2010 3:40 PM

Calling Alberto out in public will not change their methods. Calling their offices or the rangers will not break down the wall of secrecy, apparently. Trying to find out more about them and their dealings will not establish whether they are ligit or not. In this day and age of transparency, this isn't even a good way to conduct business and the major banks/brokerage houses can raise the promised $100M without this veil of secrecy. If I am going to partner with another company and they don't communicate back, then I could face a hostile takeover later, like they did in California that we all saw in the emails. And if someone actually HAS been funded by these people, it is pretty obvious that funded partners aren't saying anything to sooth our collective fears that we have been snookered.

They have been successful, thus far, of avoiding much government scrutiny by letting people get vocal, frustrated, walking away, saying 'good riddance'. Their defense, when questioned, is that they don't want to work with anyone who is that 'emotional' -- a perfect defense to the feds when finally investigated.

"Victims" may be a strong word here, but it might be the best applied to this situation and embaressing to the individuals/businesses that have gotten involved with Alberto Colon, COR Development, Project Partners, and the Rangers -- now this sounds like a secret club and frat games... Those of us that have been ripped off, all we can do is dust off the damage, make our reports to the feds (if any of us will), and move on.

I have just painted a very black and white psychological argument in a forum that is supposed to be about financial issues. It is a complicated world in the supply and demand of large monies, but the same rules of human behavior works 'in masses' as well as individuals. In financial terms, waiting for Alberto to fund or even trying to investigate Alberto's crowd is no longer productive to my business or my life -- there is no profit.

by Waitedtoolong September 11, 2010 7:23 AM

Some of you guys appear to be extremely intelligent, but I must say you are not being smart with this blog. This can damage you more than help you. My company have received calls from its stakeholders that are very aware of COR's efforts to fund and trust that I will follow COR's efforts through simple inquiries. This blog has sent a wave of concern that is not fair to me or any other project that has serious parties involved with their projects.

If anyone believe that COR is not who they say they are than I high recommend that you take it up with your legal representative or local authority as outlined in your Partnership Agreements. COR is not afraid nor are they running from anyone. This is not the way to do it.

I leave this blog with this and I will never return to it again. Joseph was in such as position. Sibling rivalry interrupted family life. He was sold into slavery and made a life for himself in Potipher's house. He was falsely accused of sexual advancement toward Potipher's wife and sent to Pharaoh's prison. The jailer put all the prisoners under Joseph's oversight. All matters are under his influence, and the Lord caused everything he did to succeed.

I pray that you understand. by RebuildAfterDaStorm September 12, 2010 9:20 AM

I do appreciate the biblical analogy in RebuildAfterDaStorm’s post and would agree that believing in COR requires a great deal of faith in the unknown and the patience of a saint. However, many would say comparing Alberto with Joseph is at the very least a bit of a stretch and at the worst heresy.

In reviewing the posts on this blog, I believe there is one common theme. Over the past 18 months, Alberto has repeatedly committed to self imposed deadlines that, for whatever reasons, were not met. His failure to effectively communicate with the project partners is the root cause for the mistrust that now exists in their minds.

I understand that for the most part, Alberto is the middle man trying to accomplish a difficult task and has been dealt innumerable setbacks in the process. It would appear that each time he was told by an individual or organization that a particular event affecting the funding process was going to occur within a specific timeframe, this would in turn cause him to issue a “by next Tuesday, but no later than Friday” deadline. The initial communication was admirable. However, he dropped the ball by not contacting everyone on the day of the deadline to immediately pass on whatever information he did or did not receive.

As in the latest “48 hour” deadline he set to respond by this past Thursday evening, we have not to this point heard anything from anyone. I’m afraid the old saying that “no news is good news” is not a suitable fit in this instance. When communications are delayed or cut off with human beings, they have a tendency to draw their own “bad” conclusions.

I believe these points have been addressed with Alberto in the past and have fallen on deaf ears much as I believe that if funding occurs in the next week, the project partners, rangers, and asset owners will all be happy campers. However, I would implore anyone with a direct line to COR and Alberto to insist he step up to the plate and communicate daily until funding does occur realizing that if it does not happen within the next week it may be a moot point.

by Guitarslinger September 12, 2010 3:02 PM

I can certainly appreciate the comments by Waitedtoolong and RebuildAfterDaStorm. Having to use the internet and this fourm to discuss this situation and learn basic information about what is going on is very unorthodox and disappointing at a minimum. Especially given the project partners are "joint venture" partners with COR. One would think the situation would not have to come to this point.

However, as one learns more about how the process has gone thus far, you quickly realize that COR is the one that has left everyone with no other choice. Communication has been limited and many commitments to have funding in place have long passed. As a practical matter, a lot of Project Partners are incurring additional expense and seeing the economics of their projects change, because they simply do not know when they can expect their project to start, or they have made plans based on commitments that have not been met.

As I have said before, with the exception of the lack of communication, delays of this nature are not uncommon when trying to raise capital in today's marketplace. It's also important to point out that what COR is offering here represents a huge opportunity for the businesses involved and COR itself. While it makes sense to always review other options, I think venture capitalists and the major banks and brokerage houses would he hard pressed to offer a similar level of funding. Especially under their current financial health and regulatory pressures.

As for using this fourm, I'm not sure I would define it as "not smart". Let's face it, transparency in business and the use of the internet for research is very commonplace in today's business world. This is not a preference on any individual's part, it is a reality. People check out businesses, share experiences, and perform due diligence all the time using the internet. And while I am not advocating any personal attacks or witch-hunt's, I do think the sharing and discussion of information in an open and honest fashion on this forum does benefit those involved. Especially under the current circumstances.

KB2

by KB2 September 12, 2010 3:25 PM

While venture capitolists, major banks, and brokerage houses may have a hard time raising this kind of money, neither would they take this long to tell their clients of repeated failures or even keep 'stringing' their clients like this. They would professionally 'release' their clients from the contracts.

While COR Development Group, Inc. has such a clause and even such a clause in their contract to call in the legals, the enticement of such large funds has generally kept people from exercising these clauses. We got drunk on the promise!

I realize that several venture capitolists do have clients that financially and emotionally invested into COR's efforts. I wish you the best of luck, especially if your stakeholders have directed you to still patiently wait for a response from COR or thinks that COR's emails are sufficient explaination. Good for you. Have you made any profit from this pattern? Have you ever had confirmation that your deposit was properly applied?

Too much failures or too many delays does not profit make -- even for Alberto Colon. Again, no longer my best choice for a future business partner. by Waitedtoolong September 12, 2010 9:01 PM

Project Partners and Associates

Today, September 13, 2010, is the day for all interested parties to contact their Rangers and Cor Development, your project partner, and find out the amount of the first disbursement and which day will the funds be in your bank account. Based on Alberto's latest email, this is what we are waiting for.

Thomas13 by Thomas13 September 13, 2010 10:55 AM

Thomas13
I'm unclear as to what email you talking about and why you think today is the day. The last email I received from Alberto was last Tuesday and it stated we would have the distribution information in 48 hours. That would have made it last Thursday evening or Friday morning.
Have you received an update since last Tuesday's. by Guitarslinger September 13, 2010 12:48 PM

Guitarslinger

You need to read the email of 9/7/10 more carefully that I am referencing. It said nothing about getting an update in 48 hours or funding to begin in 48 hours. It said, "We will have a better understanding in the next 48hrs. as to the amount that will be the firest disbursement." This is what was said. Lets not jump to conclusions or add comments that are not expressed.

My comment to all interested parties is to contact your representatives and request an update. The news should be coming shortly.

Thomas13 by Thomas13 September 13, 2010 1:24 PM

Thomas13,
You are correct in that an update was only implied by Alberto saying they would have a better understanding in the next 48 hours.
I do have a couple of remaining questons for you:
1. Why would you think today is the day? Do you have something to base that statement on?
2. I have not any luck contacting anyone at COR or the rangers over the past several weeks. Any suggestions?
Thanks by Guitarslinger September 13, 2010 1:53 PM

Guitarslinger

As to your questions:

1. Yes

2. Sit tight and be patient, it will come.

Thomas13 by Thomas13 September 13, 2010 2:14 PM

Thomas13,
Are you able to share what you have received that would cause you to answer Yes to number 1?
Are you saying you have a document saying we will receive the disbursement amounts and dates today?
Assuming you have received this information, why would you believe the disbursement dates and amounts will be met in a timely manner?
I'm sorry to sound negative but based on past experience, I always have to ask what you, the ranger, etc., has received that would make you feel the document has any credence. by Guitarslinger September 13, 2010 2:59 PM

Guitarslinger

As I stated before, Sit tight and be patient, it will come. Lets see what news comes this week.

Thomas13 by Thomas13 September 13, 2010 3:12 PM

Thomas13,
Well I must say your last comment caught me a little off guard. When you answered yes to my first question, I thought you were saying up to that point that you had received a communication from COR, Ranger, etc. stating that today was the day when disbursement amounts and dates would be released. Now you are saying let's see what happens this week.
Admittedly, being sent dates and amounts (which has happened in the past) does not mean nearly as much as being asked to check your account because we just wired you X amount of dollars. by Guitarslinger September 13, 2010 4:18 PM

Thomas13, We can't get our ranger to call us back. We have not had any more news. I have no reason to think that there will be any more news than the last eighteen months. You sound like more of the same that comes from COR or Alberto Colon.

Unless you can be more specific, this just sounds like more 'secret squirril' stuff. I like the other guys' ideas. Lets be out in the open. Transparent makes better business sense, especially for any venture capitolist who has clients waiting for funding. by COR gold didn't fund September 13, 2010 7:17 PM

I agree with the last two posters. Thomas13, if you have specific information and are willing to share it with this forum, we respectfully ask that you do so.

I am a little concerned with "COR gold didn't fund"'s comment about his ranger and COR not being responsive to his requests.

Anyone else having a similar experience?

KB2 by KB2 September 14, 2010 7:05 AM

I guess Thomas13 is either a ranger on this blog or he has converted back to believing in COR's words. I wish I had as much faith as some of the other contributions to this site. Five fish and two loaves of bread miricle would be nice to see pretty soon. by Waitedtoolong September 14, 2010 2:27 PM

To all Partners and Associates

No, I am not a Ranger nor a member of Cor Development. Our group is like most of you, a Project Partner, for the past 21 months. Yes, I know how you feel about the length of our wait for a funding. It has not been easy for any of us.

The update that you are waiting for has not been sent out yet, but it will be worth the wait. As one member of this posting has mentioned, obtaining the funding we all seek has not been easy. Try and get a loan at any finance company today and you will know what the answer is.

You need to give Cor Development the additional time to complete their "paperwork" and that should be done shortly. This information has not been issued to you yet.

We all have concerns with Cor Development, none more then us, however I request that you sit tight and be patient. Another few days is nothing when you consider the length of time we all have invested. The question we have to answer is, what if we ended our relationship with Cor Devlopment and we found out later the funding was successful? This is the position everyone is in.

Once Cor Development completes their task and starts the funding will you forget about these postings and move on. Lets see what takes place in the next few days. There are no guarantes in life, but I feel we have the best chance to work with Cor Development and have them complete their work.

Thomas13 by Thomas13 September 14, 2010 6:31 PM

Thank you, all, for your postings. It has been informational, in the least. And thank you, Thomas 13, for sharing your information. COR's task is monumental, but my group feels that it is worth the wait. And for those who can't wait, you can always ask for a refund. Good luck to you all! by AOH-Mike September 14, 2010 10:37 PM

Thomas13 added nothing new. AOH-Mike is more hopeful than I. I am hedging a bet that those of us who are first partners will soon get a small disbursement that is about 1/2 of our initial deposit, funded from the later partners that just joined COR. Since I have never been given any access to their accounting, I can't verify that COR has matched my funds, as was supposed to happen contractually. Since COR is no long communicating via the rangers or returning calls from the office, I have no reasonable expectation of getting a refund, if I asked for it. This is called fraud and I hope the FEDs are watching this blog.

Believe me, I also hope that I am wrong.

If these guys were in any way legit any more, a phone call from Alberto Colon or some one else besides a ranger would be helpful. I don't expect that, either. by COR gold didn't fund September 15, 2010 11:45 AM

Project Partners, Rangers, Associates,
Well we've reached another in a long line of Fridays. It's obvious from the comments on this blog that one of us does not know more than the other concerning the COR funding process, how/where a public company or shell fits or helps, etc.
What is Plan B and if the assets were sold why have funds not been disbursed as yet, etc.?
The only thing we do know is communication with some/most of the projects (as stated previously by some of the partners) is at an all time low.
Hey, we'll keep drinking the Koolaide eventhough it's tasted bitter for some time now. by Guitarslinger September 17, 2010 3:29 PM

I agree with the last two bloggers. Plan B was supposed to be other solid assets sold to make the disbursements. That hasn't happened, either. If anyone has been funded amoung the other project partners, people like thomas13 could do a lot to calm the fears for the others still waiting.

Silence from COR does not an excuse make, does not build trust, does increase inventory, does not get money wired...wait a minute, who in their right business mind would expect to have money blindly wired to a another business checking account to start a business with? Even banks and brokerage houses are using escrow accounts and disbursement departments to cut down on the scams .... Oh, yea, that's why I gave up on this and went with a legit source for funding.

There is no loaves of bread and fish miricle here, guys!

by Waitedtoolong September 18, 2010 9:40 AM

I'm curious to whom you guys are especially you Waitedtoolong. If you moved on and went to a legit funding source, why do you find it necessary to stop by this blog and past you unconstructive opinions? It's tough enough dealing with how things are going, but to acrimoniously lash out at COR with no substantiation for your disparage is a bit undeveloped for a professional.

I am Jeffery Bernard, managing partner for Madison Marquette Retail Services based in Minneapolis. My firm is working on a new expansion project at the Irvine Spectrum Center in Southern California. COR came highly recommended by the financier of our first two phases and I am personally comfortable in knowing this funding will happen here shortly.

I agree that COR's lack of common business practices will have most folks rounding up a posse, but this type of forum will only make each of our current situations more difficult.

This entire blog should come down immediately, but if it does not, be big enough to identify yourself so COR can address your concerns privately. If you believe he will not address you directly, share the thoughts that has been expressed on this blog and I guarantee he will contact you immediately.

And please spare this blog the snappy comebacks and contact COR directly.

by JB-MMRS September 19, 2010 10:10 AM

Blogs are good, Blogs brought down Madoff and his SCAM, unfortunately not soon enough. Any successful Business person with common since, knows any large funding group that funds multi million dollar projects do not lack common business practices in fact they exercise those practices and it show's with real results, not excuses. Further REAL funding sources are not secret in their dealings with their clients, after all what’s there to hide? You either have the funds to fund or you don’t. The client presents a well informed business plan with its funding needs to the funding source, underwriting
reviews the plan, rates it and gives it, it’s blessing or rejects it, if blessed and is approved, what’s so secret about that? Then it moves to legal for proper preparation of all partnership or agreement documentation to be ready for signing by all parties, what’s so secret about that? Once documentation is complete and legally signed by all parties involved, on to funding, what’s so secret about that process. What I’m hearing here is the Madoff look of some kind of dealings here, on a smaller scale, lacking clear transparency from the funding source. That throws up a RED FLAG to me, of course what do I know, I only have 40 years of corporate funding experience, so what do I know, PhD in Business Administration, with emphases in Business Finance and Restructuring.
“ If it looks like a DUCK and quacks like a WOLF” be aware. Keep Posting, keep Bloging. Information is valuable, good, bad or indifferent, it’s up to those involved to decipher it for their own benefit in making the right business decisions.

by OnlyOneTruth September 20, 2010 11:55 PM

I'm sure OnlyOneTruth is not a Project Partner with COR, because he appears to be far much astute and educated to how the world of financing work to be caught dead getting involved with something like this. So, maybe if you can share who you (OnlyOneTruth) are with contact information, a Partner may wish to solicit your assistance in identifying a more legit funding source. Unless your reasoning for exercising Article 19 of the UDHR was of another nature, than excuse me. by JB-MMRS September 21, 2010 9:31 AM

I don't think my comments were 'snappy comebacks' and I pray that OnlyOneTruth can get his services to those parties that need it. I will not jepodize a potential Federal investigation, hence my reason for following Article 19. If I could have gotten COR to refund me or even get my Ranger to call me back, that would have been the end of my visiting this site. But, now, I have reached the point of warning others. BEWARE! and be informed before you hand more money to these people. by Waitedtoolong September 21, 2010 11:17 AM

Please enlighten me Article 19 of the UDHR, what is that? Are you talking about Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Article 19. If so what relevance does that have to the matter at hand? COR policy’s, or their secret business dealings, or them being a real funding source? This is what I’m after, are they (COR), REAL, Have they ever funded anyone? Do they have liquid CASH available to fund? It’s called doing your dudilegence, before giving any up front monies to any firm asking for up front fees etc.
Talk is cheep until you give up your hard earned cash to any business entity that says they can perform a certain task, this one being funding a project, or business venture. Do they have a track record? If they are no willing to disclose these facts the chances are they are not real, because by now there should have been a non circumvent, non discloser agreements signed by all parties, so there is nothing to hide. Simple business formality when real funding sources come to the table, after all you disclose everything, Right, well you should expect the same. Just remember there’s a sucker born every day, the real question here is are you going to be one? DISCLOSURE, DISCOLURE, FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE TABLE. by OnlyOneTruth September 21, 2010 5:25 PM

So say we all, Truth, so say we all. We passed on the COR program for the same reasons. Had little success on our own though. Always wondered if walking away was a mistake. Seems the jury is still out.

Waited implies you might have outlets for funding. Do you? Please post a link to their websites. Giving these poor people some choices would be a public service. by LookingforOptions2010 September 22, 2010 8:28 AM

Well, another Friday will come and go. I predict Alberto Colon and COR Development Group will still not fund any more than they did the last Fridays. Ranger is still trying to assure us that the money will come, but I don't see anything that looks different than what has been said here for weeks on end.... Yes, I do wish OnlyOneTruth would give us a way to get in touch with him, too. Me, I think I will try hiring a lobbyist and go for incentive monies. They are funding better than anybody else right now. by COR gold didn't fund September 24, 2010 7:59 AM

Well, people have quit posting. Friday came and went...again. I figured if anybody had finally been funded, then they would have said so. COR activity is still the same -- still promising, but never delivering, still a fraud.

ALBERTO! YOU ARE BEING REPORTED TO ANOTHER INVESTIGATION GROUP! I HOPE THEY CATCH YOU SOON! by Waitedtoolong September 28, 2010 10:50 AM

No posts since September 28th. Did COR fund, or did it fall apart? by curious about COR October 9, 2010 5:19 PM

I bumped into my COR guy over the weekend at my step-kids football game and we chatted about this thread. He said COR laid the smack-down on their members about posting here. With sites like Skype and Facebook out there I'd say they have gone underground out of fear of getting their projects hooked.

Truth, you still out there? I'm still Looking For Options. by LookingforOptions2010 October 11, 2010 2:22 PM

More Fridays have come and gone, still no funding. I have no fear of my project getting bumped because of my public crying out that Alberto is a fraud nor do I regret reporting him. Even if he funds now, finally, there are enough irregularities as to HOW he will/has finally funded and his lack of regard for the contracts that he has been signing for the last two years that he is still in violation of the anti-trust laws. by Waitedtoolong October 21, 2010 9:36 PM

Waitedtoolong: I would like to contact the regulators to whom you reported your concerns. Could you please advise? Thanks. by curious about COR October 24, 2010 11:39 PM

Glad you have asked, curious. I need a way to contact you privately. Suggestions? by Waitedtoolong October 28, 2010 12:46 PM

I have been following this post for a while now and wonder if anyone has been refused refund on their deposits. COR states that the deposit will be refunded within the timeline of the contract as long as COR's funding process hasn't started. The caveat here is that the "funding process" hasn't been clearly defined. Also does anyone talk directly to COR, or is all communication through the ranger by highexpectations October 31, 2010 10:37 PM

Usually just through the rangers and emails. Their address in the 'bergs of Chicago rarely has anybody there.

And forget them following their own contracts. Try changing your name to 'lowexpectations'. by Waitedtoolong November 2, 2010 2:42 PM

I believe all the negative feedback on this forum will do nothing to help all involved. I am listing a private email address where you may attach a copy of your original PDF contract from COR Development. Your privacy is secured and we will contact you with additional information once we have received your file. We are an independent firm working with several projects and believe we can assist those with existing contracts privately. Simply send us an email with your contact information and attach the PDF contract to CVNuck@yahoo.com by CVNuck November 8, 2010 3:37 PM

CVNuck, how do we trust you with this information? Word amoung the clients is that Alberto will kick you out of his wonderful program if he catches wind of being involved in this website. You should like one of his few remained trusted rangers, commissioned salesmen that have yet to see any money just like the clients that they brought to Alberto's silly fake business. by COR gold didn't fund November 12, 2010 11:45 AM

Gold's hit the bullseye on one thing CVNuck. If you're serious about offering these poor people some options you're request would be about their projects and not their contracts. If you're serious, post some legit info, let these folks do their diligence and contact you direct. Otherwise your just another vulture circling for prey. by LookingforOptions2010 November 14, 2010 6:26 PM

Are you guys having fun getting any relief from CVNuck? His "independent firm' is just another ranger who thinks he is helping Alberto get rid of malcontent clients. Since nobody's funded all summer (and nobody has offered that they HAVE funded), even CVNuck will figure out that it's not worth the trouble. by Waitedtoolong November 16, 2010 6:37 PM

Guys!!

Listen.....

Here is a guy who claims to manage TRILLIONS of dollars...
He asks YOU to give him $30,000.
For that he will give you $200 Million!

Does that sound too good to be true?

The ONLY guy to speak "highly" of COR does not exist..
See here:
Click HereCall the corporate office and ask about Jeffery Bernard, managing partner for Madison Marquette Retail Services based in Minneapolis. My firm is working on a new expansion project at the Irvine Spectrum Center in Southern California.

Nobody knows him. No managing director would bring up Article 19 of the UDHR in regards to this thread.

Alberto Colon has no record whatsoever of ever completing ANY transaction.

So.. What is YOUR conclusion?

Indeed, it was a BLOG that brought down Bernie Madhoff..

Call your local legal authorities and send them everything you have. You can trace ALL their numbers to the Chicago area.

HOWEVER!! if you, or ANYONE you know, DID get funding then give me your name and contact info and I will be happy to pay you $10,000 for positive proof that they can and have performed. The $10,000 will come from a successful transaction with COR development where I give them $30,000 and get $200 Million.

Heck, I may even give you more!

Your move..

Anyone game?

by AlbertoNot November 16, 2010 11:19 PM

Here is how it looks like it works to me.

Feel free to correct any errors I may have.

Somehow you get in contact with a rep for COR.
They send you a contract asking for you to sign it then send them $30,000
There is no way to verify anything.
You wait for your multiple millions.

Someone else, like you, experiences the same thing,

COR repeats this process 9 more times.

COR pulls in 10 times $30,000 or $300,000

It is a scam guys.

Wake up. by AlbertoNot November 17, 2010 11:18 AM

Anyone who sent money to COR without results is invited to so state. Put the date you put the money down and BRIEFLY, what happened.

If I can get a case against them I will provide my contact info.

First thing is to gather folks together who may have been victimized.

Get to work, I can provide relief by working with authorities to shut them down if they are not legit.

If they are legit, my HUMBLE APOLOGIES... by AlbertoNot November 17, 2010 11:24 AM

Alberto has already been reported to SEVERAL investigating authorities, including ME. Read the whole blog and you will find your cases easily enough, how to get their stories, how to get touch with them.

Alberto Colon is no more going to fund in the next six weeks than he has in the last 2 years that this scam has been going on. Even his latest attempt at offering up a reward, now the fourth blog up from this one, is not going to change the tide of investigations already in progress. While the SEC MIGHT give him a chance to clean up his act, I am afraid it is too far gone for that to happen. There have been too many victims for that.

Before anybody gets on this post and says that I am getting too personal or too emotional, it is because Alberto has messed with too many peoples' lives with his BIG SCAM. Wait, I will take it back a bit...his isn't the biggest scam...Bernie has earned that one. by Waitedtoolong November 17, 2010 2:58 PM

Come on guys..

Do not be shy. Put your experience with COR here.

I will gather the info...

Thanks! by AlbertoNot November 18, 2010 1:41 AM

I usually do not waste time in forums but I believe you have a right to know why most will not give solid information on a public forum. First off, most who are here have not put up any money and they are searching for answers. This is OK but in reality, you were probably introduced to this program by a facilitator. You probably have a contract with them also. If you are looking for answers, provide the information requested and we will get back with you. We are not an agency nor do we have any other interest other than locating those facilitators who are falsely representing COR. This is already more information than you should receive if you are only looking for fish. I'll help you when you prove to me that you are not from COR, FED or simply a pewker. I do not have to prove anything here. BTW, most of the contract are for 250 MIL not 200 MIL.

Chris by CVNuck November 18, 2010 6:19 PM

Albertonot and CVNuck:

How on earth do you expect people to blindly send their contracts or information to you? You have given no identification or explanation of your experience and motives but are surprised when folks haven't flocked to you.

Everyone's patience is thin. We know that not everyone will get the expected result due to a number of factors. COR has stated that projects were excluded for a number of reasons. Is it not possible that a number of the posts on here are from people who had their project removed? The individuals from COR have made filings with the SEC that can and should be viewed by everyone. Reviewing this information shows that there have been a number of delays. Were these avoidable? That's hard to say. It appears that there has been litigation between members of the holding company. How do we know that the individuals referenced in those filings aren't the posters on this forum?

There are advantages to having a forum such as this one but one of the drawbacks is the anonymous nature of who you are interacting with.

Has COR funded yet? Not to my knowledge. Will they? Remains to be seen but I believe that they will. When? Sometime after they say they will if past performance is a judge. Has the delay allowed COR to utlize the funds in their possession longer, you bet.

by SeriouslyC'mon November 18, 2010 6:44 PM

@Seriously...Are you kidding? You've just told me you know absolutely nothing about this program and the reason I require copies of the contract is to weed out those who are just whining. I could care less if anyone sends anything to me. They are simply not going to get help from me without it. I do not need to provide this forum anything. Most of the legitimate people here should be contacting their facilitators for information. Most people here have contracts with a facilitator and it is usually for around 5 MIL to be paid based on the scheduled contracts. This is my last post. If anyone wants help they can sit here and cry or take action with their facilitators or send me the info....Period. by CVNuck November 18, 2010 8:05 PM

What is obvious is that there are many victims and many others who would like to organize to work on this problem. Because of the emotions and large sums of monies promised that will never be delivered, I don't blame folks for not trusting COR, facilitators, rangers, or even other clients with their personal information.

I am past ranting and raving about COR; this is an attempt to educate others how to go from 'victim' to 'closure', just like a funeral or other mourning.

The best thing that we can continue to do is to keep reporting COR's lack of performance to the SEC, banking authorities, any other federal authorities who are responsible for enforcement of the trading laws, business laws, banking anti-trust laws, even international business laws....I think Alberto Colon has OUTDONE Bernie on that particular point! by COR gold didn't fund November 19, 2010 7:55 AM

Alberto didn't fund AGAIN! You would think he would quit calling these famous pep talks and building people's hopes up. Nobody believes him any more. by Waitedtoolong November 23, 2010 4:32 PM

COR Development Group, Inc… or (Commercial or Residential Development Group, Inc – Incorporated in the great state of Illinois) is running a “business” that can be called nothing other than a scam. Although they will surely disagree with that label, since they don’t actually steal anyone’s money (to my knowledge), they just hold it without providing any service or funding. Before I go into the details of their scheme, let me take a moment to list everyone (that I know of) that is involved.
Alberto B Colon
Artemio Rivera
Judith “JR” Robinson
Pete Gianokos
Curtis Walton
Michelle Parizon
Dale Zuhle
Bill Grveles
Tommie Dorsey - Gary, Indiana
Ross Haugen – Minnesota (Pelican Resources)
Jim Charles
Rev. Charles Mann
In June of 2009, a company I had connections with was approached by a Jim Charles and Charles Mann out of Chicago and we were told “there is a VC company based locally that is specializing in socially conscience businesses”, our project being focused on education, it sounded like a match. So, we submitted a business plan and were approved for an astronomical (too good to be true) amount of money to start our company. Everything was great. We then moved on to the contract stage, where the headaches usually ensue. To our shock, everything went smooth, contract was incredibly short for that amount of money (smaller than most credit card agreements) and basically stated that we would be provided start-up capital in exchange for 50% of the equity in our firm and 50% of profits until such time that we were able to buy them out (valuation would be provided by a neutral third party). Great Deal, right?. So, we decided we had nothing to lose and signed the contract. We were in constant communication with them and then came time for us to put in our 20K intake fee. Something that is not all that uncommon dealing with legitimate VC firms. We transferred our 20K to them with the promise that within 120 days we would get our money to begin operations. Low and behold, all direct communication was cut and the never ending excuses began.
The next 15 months are filled with almost weekly promises of “we are almost there or we are done all together”, but funding never happens. On top of this, their stories are completely unbelievable. Everything from mergers and acquisitions with other shady companies (Le Bon Table Brand Foods), to commodity speculation, to they had to wait for the Iraqi parliament to convene because they were so heavily invested in the Dinar, all of it BS. According to the information that I have, they have over 475 projects that are to be funded to the “tune” of 100-200M each. Now, either they are the largest VC fund on the planet, that nobody has ever heard of or they are full of shit. I tend to believe the latter. In addition, they no longer speak directly to projects, they have intermediaries called “rangers”, poor souls (some who have invested their life savings) who are counting on this to happen and will tow the company line to the end. These gentlemen essentially have no more information than do the projects. At the end of the day, nobody has ever seen a dime from these people, nobody has ever seen any evidence that they can fulfill their contractual obligations and while our project did get is money back, there was certainly an element of fraud to the whole situation. We have contacted the authorities and are awaiting more information as of this post.
If anyone would like additional information, I would be happy help in any way I can. I have copies of contracts, hundreds of emails and contact information for most of the people involved. My sincere recommendation would be to stay far away from these people.

Sincerely,
Tim Bieser
timbieser@gmail.com

by Tim Bieser December 10, 2010 5:03 PM

Is this Alberto Colon the same Alberto Colon as the CEO of Eastern National Bank? by CloseCall December 12, 2010 4:59 PM

Is this the same Ross Haugen that is facing 50 counts of securities fraud and running a Ponzi scheme?

by Abundanceoffrauds December 13, 2010 1:50 PM

I dont know any details for the two previous questions, however, I would encourage anybody with money still in with COR to request its return and contact the authorities.

by Tim Bieser December 13, 2010 4:29 PM

In my observation of the post I see one thing in common: NO EVIDENCE HAS BEEN PUT FORTH TO SUPPORT THE ARGUMENTS OF CORS AND ALBRTO COLON"S CORRUPTION. The mathematics is this: You are being granted the opportunity to partner in a PROJECT which your project is only a fraction of the whole. If you would grasp the magnitude, and broaden your scope and study the science of what is being done, then you would be satified in just being a partner in the overall scheme of things. NOT A RIPOFF. Where I come from if someone is going to rip you off, they don't return the money after they pull the heist! Anyone who got their funds back is a fool. $20,000 (Money Back Guarantee) to see if $100,000,000 -$250,000,000 is real, is the best deal smoking! No where else could you find such lucrative and safe investment. Instead of you being grateful and taking the upside approach, you go off at the mouth and attack individuals characters and backgrounds because of some delays. But had you been funded on time and according to plan, that same crook(Alberto) would be a Saint to you few cuprits behind this mudslinging campaighn.I am connected to these processes. Anything of this manigtude takes patience. Of course, the PPA quotes deadlines, but in any project we factor in contingencies, delays due to unforeseen variables that may affect timely completion of the project. You are not very wise business men to forgo an opportunity like that because of some delays! If they had to wait 3 more years, so be it! I am riding with the faith and desire that Alberto, the Rangers, and the Associates pull it off. And on the Project Partner side of the track we have to support Alberto them to pull it off by lending them our support, cooperation, respect and understanding of the PROJECT that will give birth to many more projects. If you can't ride with that, get your money back, sit down and keep it quiet. He honored the contract and supplied a refund. You had a way out your contract and now your out. So what will you do now if you are wrong and:COR FUNDS! by RightPerspective December 14, 2010 2:19 PM

Right Perspective you might consider changing your name to lack of perspective, maybe lack of business knowledge.
Large transactions are not really that hard to complete and close when they are real. The assets or funds are eather there or not.I don't know where you got the figure of just $20,000, but my associates have invested much more, not counting the time, while being locked out of raising funds from other sources. It's been over the 60 day period and we have been patient.There is more evidence leading to the fact this could be a scam than there is it being a real funding opporunity for the 250 projects in the pipe line. Thats a sum of $5 million dollars put in to date at $20,000 each, how many have received their money back? How many have received the $100,000 promised? (NONE) that I know of. Some have stated they have been in this for over 28 months, and they are receiving the same EXCAUSES WEEK AFTER WEEK, AND I'M READING THEM. SOMETHINGS NOT RIGHT HERE. YOU MUST BE PART OF IT. AND IF YOU ARE, WHEN THE GAFFEL FALLS IT WILL FALL ON YOU AS WELL, UNDERSTAND THIS FACT, IT WILL FALL SOON. YOU SPEAK OF WISE BUSINESS MEN, WELL MADOFF'S INVESTORS WERE CONSIDERED WISE, AND LOOK WERE IT GOT THEM.LET ME TELL YOU WHAT WISE IS, KEEPING YOUR EYES AND EARS OPEN TO WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING ABOUT COR, THEN WHACHING WHAT COR SAYS AND DOES. TO DATE COR HAS FAILD ON EVERYTHING THEY HAVE SAID THEY WOULD DO. NOW IT IS TIME FOR THOSE THAT HAVE INVESTED TO BEGAIN TO CONTACT ONE ANOTHER TO FORMULATE A PLAN, NOT JUST TO GET THEIR MONEY BACK, BUT ALSO TO RECEIVE JUST COMPENSATION ON MONEY, REVENUES, AND LOSE OF OTHER REAL FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES PASSED BY, BECAUSE OF COR'S LONG OVER DUE PROMASES OF FUNDING SAID PROJECTS.(FACTS SPEAK LOUDER THAN COR'S WORDS. by OnlyOneTruth December 14, 2010 9:06 PM

Right perspective: Real VC firms do not refuse to talk to their partners. Real VC firms (that control hundreds of billions of dollars, as COR would have to) have ways of verifying their assets to their partners that would not affect their ability to fund. Real VC firms have someone that will answer a phone when you call. But, hey, I only live in the VC capital of the world, been a part of 3 start ups, what would I know.

So, they refunded the money. That just proves that they aren't complete morons and don't want to face federal wire fraud charges. My guess would be that they are using the money as interest free capital for various investing activities. If you look closely at the contract it essentially states, "we will attempt to provide funding in the amount of XXX". Therefore, they have no true criminal or civil liability. They tried, couldn't pull it off and by the time you are fed up, they refund your initial amount and are technically off the hook.

Finally, lets look at their Rangers. These are the people that this supposed 100+ billion dollar VC fund have chosen as liaisons for its very important projects.

1. If a fund sees enough promise in a company to "dump" in a 100+ million dollars, you are dealing direct with someone internally, regardless of scale issues.

2. One of their rangers was recently charged with fraud. Very encouraging!

3. Another ranger is a former owner of a now out of business NAPA auto parts store, and from his own mouth, "never seen anything concrete that COR has a dime other than the intake fees it has taken in.

At the end of the day, COR is counting on this, "even if it takes three more years, so be it" mentality. When they have promised something so grand it is virtually impossible to pull the plug. But, another month, another week, another year, that attitude is what keeps this thing in going.

I for one, have to hand it to them, they have a pretty tight little scam going and the psychology of it all is brilliant.

by Tim Bieser December 15, 2010 2:12 PM

Stick around a few days longer! You will soon eat your words! Then you will see how much perspective I lack. The truth is, most of you would never see that much money in a lifetime. Most of you have to stick to tour guns now and pray that you are right about COR. Because if you aren't, then each time you glare in the mirror you will know that you are looking at a fool who missed out on $250,000,000 deal because of your impatience and smallmindedness in not being able to grasp something bigger than your own petty little thoughts and ways that you superimpose on the characters of Cor and their Rangers! Trust me and believe without doubt, that you will soon eat your words. COR WILL FUND!!!!! Too bad you will miss out. by RightPerspective December 16, 2010 7:01 PM

Ah, yes, RightPerspective, everybody waited a few more days. Everybody got another email instead of funding. Too bad you missed out. Maybe you are the next one to cut from this great program that you put so much faith in.

Right now, I have more faith in Santa Claus. He has fewer loopholes in his contract. by Waitedtoolong December 19, 2010 6:43 PM

You are fairly right, Tim, about the brilliant psychology. Of course, most people will believe anything for the dream of BIG money. And most will stay quiet at the chance to 'stay in the game.'

But the game is no longer worth it. The damage to the victims is also great - look at what this has cost Bernie Madhoff's family. . . the son who turned him committed suicide . . . the 2 year old grandson is getting sued by the US government. . . I wonder if a toddler can afford a lawyer or how he can defend his right to testify when he can't even talk....

How many bankruptcies will Alberto's careless actions cause? Or divorces? Future indictments? This isn't just a gamble to see Alberto will finally deliver, guys. This blog is turning into jail time for some peoples' futures!

This blog started with business peole waiting 18 months and longer. Since Alberto didn't fund on the latest round of promised wire transfers and there will be more excuses to go past the end of the year, we are all now gearing up to patiently wait THREE years! Now, he has violated the bank anti-trust laws by gathering banking information and no transfers.

At this point, even if he refunded EVERYBODY, he has still violated the law. by COR gold didn't fund December 22, 2010 8:44 AM

So, apparently it is next year now, huh? Sounds promising! by Tim Bieser December 22, 2010 5:22 PM

I am not quite understanding all of the negativity. This clearly is up to each and every individuals discretion to participate in becoming "partner" or "client" of COR, I am assuming and hoping that everyone who has joined this venture with Cor is or are adults, and with that being said..... No one twisted your arm or forced you to work with them. I understand that for some the "waiting game" can become quite discouraging, and cause disruption in your families and or livelihoods BUT! Isn't this the risk of doing business? No one should blame their dreams of what could or should or will be on anyone! Everyone is responsible for their own actions, how can you possibly be so hateful t wards something that you sought out in the first place? I may be wrong & I am sure that someone will correct me if I am but, did anyone solicit these people to throw their money @ them and wait for their business plans to be funded? And why don't those who have been waiting so long just get their money back? Obviously everyone chose this path and now for whatever reason want to blame everyone but themselves.
No one should blame anyone for what they want to do...... If you truly want something in life I am a firm believer in everyone is capable of anything it just depends on how hard you work and try to accomplish it. So I do believe all of you who are "victims" of this group are truly victims of your own setbacks. There is nothing wrong with having dreams of anything there is something wrong with blaming others for them not becoming a reality. by Dream@yurownrisk December 26, 2010 2:20 PM

Idiot! You are new to business, obviously, and naive if you think "big dreams" will move food from one port to another or if Wal-Mart waited for COR to fund.

Alberto Colon entered the realm called "contract law". When that system breaks down, so does delivery of goods and services. Our whole world works on the premise of TRUST in completing contracts or no money would be spent, no products delivered, no jobs created, no food to feed the masses, etc.

Specifically, Alberto has broken the bank "ANTI-TRUST" laws when he repeatedly entered into these contracts with intention to deliver. The feds can make a stronger case when they can add embezzelment to the charges that should be filed against him.

This, as you impply, is the 'grown-up' reason for this blog: We just went thru a recession where the trust in the banks almost broke down and 10% unemployment soon followed. Alberto Colon's COR Development has now entered in the venture capatalist's market and hurt them with his fraud. The VC firms that are ligit will have a long time repairing that industry's tarishing from this blog where many people now do not want to trust ligit VC firms as a potential funding source.

I know that I have now personally talked two other companies into seeking funding sources that no longer invovle VC firms until the TRUST is back in the industry. This is not good, actually, since VC traditionally have funded the newer technologies. Where would PCs be without VC firms from 30 years ago? How fast our world is changing!

by Waitedtoolong December 27, 2010 8:07 AM

Most of you on here are fucking idiots. JR aka COR's godmother, co-sign your shit. We know it's you. "No one twisted your arm", gave you away. And to the rest; there is only one idiot on here that got his money back, but still wants to bitch and complaint. Fool you have no legs to stand on anymore so stand back and watch others get theirs. And to the other idiots that are waiting and doubting at the same time, you are the biggest fools. Stop shooting yourslef in the foot. Get your money back or file a complaint with the authorities, but quit making a jackass out yourself. Be in it to win it or get the fuck out! by DoOrDie December 27, 2010 6:27 PM

So, DoOrDie, did you try using cusswords with the hope that would make the blog managers take down this blog?

Didn't work.

We who have reported the COR Development Group to the various authorities AND still writing on this blog do this for two reasons:

1. There are many other people who still need to understand exactly HOW COR continues to break various investor laws. (Those laws are in place to encourage the economic engine, by the way.)
2. To forwarn other investors NOT to go this route. Try other revenue generating streams besides COR - they don't and WON'T deliver.

Finally, if and whenever COR does finally fund, it is my hope that this blog has put them under enough pressure to finally honor their contracts. Hm, "...HONOR the contracts"....now that's a funny word to use in the same sentence has COR! by Waitedtoolong December 29, 2010 1:23 PM

Danger will Robinson Danger RUN if you have money invested with Cor Development (GET IT OUT NOT RUN ) there is an on going FBI investigation looking into Cor for a number of wrong doings and a possible link to internation terrorist money laundring. The other agengies are closing in on Cor If you have any money with them GET IT OUT NOW BEFORE THE GOVERNMEN FREEZES ALL OR THERE ACCOUNTS I have heard so many horror stories I was going to invest until this was droped in my lap. For those non beleivers ask to see your investment accounts with them or to speak with someone othwr then your (Ranger) save yourself and your companies if the link to International terror is true and the money they have taken from you isn't sitting in some offshore bank then the Feds will lock it up and if it's there the folks there will take it so RUN NOW by The fly December 29, 2010 8:43 PM

Attention Everyone DoOrDie is none other then Cor's CEO himself by The fly December 29, 2010 8:49 PM

The name is Donald Orlando Dierks. My friends call me DoOrDie or DoD. I am a paid Project Partner. What is your name Waitedtoolong and how about the new idiot, The fly. Where in the hell you cowards come from. – Hiding behind this blog. Make yourself known. Do COR know who you are and have you expressed your grievance directly to them. Not! Why? It’s in your upbringing – anonymous bully. At least with Madoff, the bloggers identified themselves. – But you will not do that – just in case funding comes your way – straddling the fence.

Hey new idiot, once COR figures out that all they have to do is file for defamation against the site owner and have the IP addresses associated with each post seized, I would love to be the fly on the wall when you and your band of brothers receives that call saying, “I know who you are”.

The new internet laws are so crazy today. I heard that a wife is suing her husband for snooping into her emails and posting on Facebook that she’s an adulterous. If found guilty, which he is, can be sentenced to 5 years. Now, the wife was undeniably cheating, but his methods crossed the line as it relates to these new internet laws. Is that crazy or what!?

by DoOrDie December 30, 2010 12:07 AM

I stand corrected. It was not a suit, but criminal charges against the husband.

by DoOrDie December 30, 2010 12:11 AM

DoOrDie, I doubt that you are a PAID Project Partner, any more than I think the Rangers are. I am not defaming Alberto; I am pointing out to others and -- to him as well -- where the laws are getting broken by his actions, if they weren't already aware of it. We are all born idiots until we are educated.

And I am well versed in psychology. I would find it equally risky to do business with a Project Partner who is as emotional violotile as you are getting. I understand that this yet another attempt to pull this blog down with vile language by calling me a bully and other names. Please keep your comments on a professional level. Because of the complaints filed, I have to remain behind the scenes until criminal charges are filed or until Alberto actually honors his contracts. by Waitedtoolong December 30, 2010 8:50 PM

If you have analyzed my writings to be emotionally volatile due to a few successful attention grabbers than I must suggest that you not claim to be versed in psychology. I would also like to add that no one that I know will claim to have been born an idiot. I’m not sure of YOUR definition of the word, but I was using it as it is intended – an offensive term that deliberately insults somebody’s intelligence. Keep in mind you use it initially.

For the record, if I knew of a way in having this blog pulled I would, but I never gave it a thought as I was only adamant in responding to the very damaging comments being posted. – Damaging to my project.

Wow, now to the hilarious part of your post! – You have to remain behind the scenes until criminal charges are filed or – or – or until Alberto actually honors his contracts. Hmmmm… My professional comment is, this sounds very foolish and my “vile” and “emotional volatile” comment is, “bullshit”! The scare tactics has been going on from this blog since August. So please, get real. If you are a Partner, file charges with the authorities since you have all this evidence of wrong doing or get your money back and move on. You remember, “Oh, yea, that's why I gave up on this and went with a legit source for funding. “ Posted September 18, 2010 9:40 AM – After 3 months of you posting that, how is that working out for you? That would be more beneficial for someone than this other crap.

by DoOrDie December 30, 2010 11:12 PM

My legitimate funding efforts are going very well, thank you for asking.

And you still sound violotile. You would be very damaging to anybody's business.

This blog is supposed to be here to share information amoung people who are concerned about what is going on with their projects and to learn. I have seen good people hurt by Alberto's continued dragging out any disbursements. I will continue efforts to forwarn people.

by Waitedtoolong January 2, 2011 3:12 AM

Well, there you have it people. For Waitedtoolong to have personally seen people hurt by the delays could only mean that he or she is possibly a consultant. If that is the case, I believe that it is very destructive to have a representative of any paid Partner to pass false claims of filing a criminal complaint that can ultimately affect their own client(s). I have been on board for 16 months and neither my consultant nor my Ranger has shared the identity of any other Partner. So therefore, be very careful to what you read and believe on this blog.

Passing viable information is one thing, but to take out your personal attacks and suggest there is possible wrong doing without sound evidence is not needed here. If one wish to forewarn those that may follow, let’s share our experience during this process, not our emotions.

by DoOrDie January 3, 2011 12:31 AM

DoOrDie:

Let me get this straight...for the past 16 months you have been involved with COR? COR promises a process that takes 3 to 4 months, how can you justify their contant delays over the past 16 months? Are you aware of anyone actually funding? How can you reconcile the repeated communications that state the funding is coming by (insert latest date here) when those dates come and pass? How can you reconcile the "It's done" statements made over the past several months without funding actually happening? Why do you tell people to keep dreaming instead of encouraging COR to be honest about the delays, their causes, and a realistice timeframe for funding?

I'm sorry that Waitedtoolong's factual statements cause you to want to take the entire post down. I think that he, like many others, simply want the truth. In the absence of honoring their commitments, COR brings the doubt upon themselves. If you entered into an agreement with anyone and they missed their commitment by a year, you'd have cause to question them as well. You'd be foolish not to.

by Abundanceoffrauds January 3, 2011 2:17 PM

Welcome back Abundanceoffrauds.

I’m sure most of us that have backbones, have questioned COR directly for their lack of everything. I am not in no way defending their amateurish business practices or their repeated failures to follow through on funding to include their classic more information to follow that never comes. I just don’t welcome those that try to use the phony scare tactics or personal attacks to draw COR into the public. Many of us that have real projects cannot afford any negative attention that most of these comments can bring. We have too many other entities involved that we must report to that can put our projects in jeopardy.

Trust me, there are monitors in place that have identified COR’s capabilities to perform and if it was not for that – the blog would not be the only place you can read about them.

by DoOrDie January 3, 2011 6:16 PM

I am not a paid consultant nor do I pass false claims. I have personally seen good, honest people hurt by COR's 'amateurish business practices'. Ignorance of the law does not excuse you from the law. If you don't know what you are doing (in this case, COR Development), then close down the business.

I do not trust you, DoOrDie, or the capable monitors. This blog is not the only place that you can read about Alberto Colon, COR Development, or some of their other failures. by Waitedtoolong January 4, 2011 9:14 AM

For one to be versed in subtle manipulative behavior, how does that fit into reading comprehension – because you got my post all off beam (this was not a question). First, I can care less if you trust me or not. I am not here to gain your confidence. Second, my statement referring to this blog not being the only place simply meant that if the probe (the monitor(s) that is in place) we conducted came back negative, you will not only read about them on this blog or any other site, but you will hear about them on CNN. I apologize if my figurative language was unsuccessfully expressed.

Waitedtoolong, would you be predisposed to contribute the contact information of where you lodged your complaint, because after tomorrow many of us may help support it?

by DoOrDie January 4, 2011 10:07 AM

Well I have been looking for information on COR and came across this site. I would be under the assumption that someone from COR reads this form and keeps up with it. I personal have no money invested with this company so maybe I am out of place here. I don't know exactly how the firm operates and most post here or anywhere else on the net for that matter are vague at the most in the operation and structure for COR. You can not even get on their website with out being a partner with a password. So how do you get a password? It says to go back to the one that refered you there? What if you just want to become a partner and you have money to place in the pot? Somewhere out there are people that have placed some money up front, does that buy you a password? Where does COR claim to have their money coming from? Better yet where is the money they say they have? It is hard pressed to move that amount of money in the U.S.A. without the Federal Reserve, S.E.C. and homeland security being involved. I read in this form that the contracts say they will try to obtain funding for you? So if you actually read a contract from start to finish you have a light on what they are trying to do from the start. Just hope that light is not a train at the end of the tunnel. From information I have gotten it would seem they invest so much per dollar into humanitarian projects? The information that is available is sketchy at the least. I can see the vast scope of such an undertaking. The funding of commercial projects and the money to bring about the humanitarian projects. I think that the situation here demands some clarification either from COR or some other represenative. I like what I see so far from COR in their promises and statements. What I don't understand is the hesitation COR has in funding such a venture with both commercial and humanitarian. I stand at the ready to produce to COR or any other V.C. company a business plan that not only pays back the investment in five years, but has a eighty five to ninety precent secure collateral plan. So the risk is minamal at the most for the investor. I would ask that COR or anyone else stand up and clarify some of the ongoing concerns that people have.
Thanks for reading,
Agoodventure by Agoodventure January 4, 2011 6:15 PM

Well stated Agoodventure. by DoOrDie January 4, 2011 7:06 PM

So anyone on here willing to fessup and say they are with COR in any way, fashion, or form? Just would like to see where everyone is. I personally as I have stated in previous post that "I do not have any money invested with COR." And with in the same breath, I back COR and believe they can do it. I have only been exposed to them as a V.C. Company and trying to do the reasearch on them.
Thanks, by Agoodventure January 6, 2011 12:14 PM

I have no money invested in COR. I do know someone who does. These guys are total frauds. Spend ten minutes on the internet and you can find out enough information to head the other way...fast! Not one dollar of funding, just email messages from Rangers promising big things.
Ross Haugen has been arrested numerous times,as recently as May 2010,just Google him, COR, Alberto Colon, you will find it. They promise, promise...Never deliver.
Check Ripoff Report, I think it is Ripoff Report.com
Get out if you can! by DoNotBelieve January 6, 2011 4:50 PM

I am a project partner who has invested $20 grand with Cor. For those individuals who are on here that did not invest a dime, you can go and f#ck yourselves (you know who you are). If you go on the ripoff report, another joke, u will see no one has been ripped off. There has been so much bad information or lack of information placed on this site, people should be ashamed of themselves. Most people here are brokers or consultants looking for their easy score.
Waitedtoolong, if you went to a "legitimate" funding source, than u should leave. You have not produced any inforamtion or documentation that shows fraud. We are all adults and legitimate buisness men who do not need you help or advise or expertise. So you can go and f#ck yourself.
Until anyone can provide any information, from a legimate source (SEC, FCC, etc)(not from blogs or BS web sites) about how COR has done anything wrong, i say to the negative posters, shut the F#ck up.
There are peolple who do believe and know that funding is coming. Stop trying to discourage us with your bullsh!t and opinionated negativity. Prove me wrong, not with your words, but with creditable resources.
I can't wait til COR funds so I can change my user name to be hahahaha. by mdudd January 6, 2011 6:51 PM

BRAVO mdudd! BRAVO! by DoOrDie January 6, 2011 6:56 PM

Before I go F#ck myself, can you please take a look at my post from September in which I said:

I talk to people who tell me the same stories about Cor and see similar posts on this site. I wouldn't give these guys a dime or waste my time until they start to perform.

Everyone seems to say the same thing, "I started working with them over a year ago and nothing yet". Until they actually perform, I'd stay away. I can't understand the desire to take on more customers if they can't close those that they have in the system unless they are trying to take people's deposits. If they can't perform in the next few days, they are either crooks or too incompetent to ever get it done.

Anyone know just how many people sent money to Cor but have yet to see their deal completed? Has anyone ever completed a deal with Cor?

by Abundanceoffrauds September 8, 2010 12:57 PM

I appreciate your commitment to COR and a desire to stick with it. That is your choice. I have reservations about a group that is actively taking in deposits and setting expectations for a 3 to 4 month closing when they clearly haven't met that standard for the groups they have in the works.

We aren't talking about a group that is 4 or 5 days late, we are talking about a group that is 4 or 5 months beyond their first statement that funds would be wired in a matter of days.

I hope for many people's sake that they do indeed fund, not only the first small test amount but the subsequent larger amounts as well. Until they do, they should be more forthcoming with information other than "it's done" and they should not take additional monies until they perform on their original commitments.

DoOrDie, earlier this week you said that you were going to join the group that is filing a complaint if they didn't fund by Wednesday. I think that your frustration is shared by many!

Mdudd, I applaude your patience but don't you think that people should have the facts in order to make decisions? You chose to place money with COR, others may or may not but they deserve to know what has been happening.

Can you find fault with my statements?

by Abundanceoffrauds January 7, 2011 12:00 PM

mdudd wants proof of fraud. Check out The Grand Forks Hearld article published May 28, 2010. It is all about the arrest of Ross Haugeh on 52 counts, mostly Class B felonies. Part of a $30 Million Ponzi-like scheme involving 150 investors. You can look up the article and read the rest. These are real people who were hurt.
I watch the person I know who has been waiting for a disbursement that never comes...I see desperation...How cruel this is to do this to people. How can they live with themselves? You couple of people who support this COR venture must be crazy and I guess you also believe in Santa Claus & the Tooth Fairy!!
P.S. You don't need to use the F-bomb, it really doesn't show a lot of class! by DoNotBelieve January 7, 2011 2:43 PM

Check out the blog by Right Perspective. Stick around, COR Will Fund...Right...That was December 16, 2010! by DoNotBelieve January 7, 2011 2:50 PM

Abundanceoffrauds,

There have been delays, that is correct. But no one has been running off and hiding. This shows to me and the believers the commitment from COR to get us the funding
for our projects.
Remember that this is private banking, which most people do not understand and people fear what they do not understand.

DoNotBelieve,

Your article shows of an idividaul being charged, not convicted of a crime by a court of law, but does not mention COR in it, so I will say again, Show me a legitimate refrenece from a creditable resource about COR. That is like saying, my cousin's, brother-in-law's step brother's son was arrested for a crime, that makes me a criminal. I find it funny that you talk of a person you know that is desperate. If you are a friend, you should be supportive of this individual. You seem like the type of person who will be the first in line to say "I told you so" or thats great COR funded, now can I have a handout.

Most people on here are hoping that this fails, for what ever reason. COR did not except my project, or people are brokers/consultants who have spent the fee money and now are freaking out. The project partners have been very paitient and quiet through out this process. NO more will I listen to ,uncreditable or indivdual's personally vendetta, in slandering my project partner.
Great things are on the horizon, to bad most of you will not be a part of it. But will have a great story to tell everyone.

DOD,

Keep believing, It is going to happen....

DoNotBelieve,
P.S. The purpose of the F bomb was to get people's attention, which it did.
So now to be a little classy, Go and screw yourself. Was that better you leech...

by mdudd January 7, 2011 4:55 PM

Mdudd
Your P.S. doesn't deserve a reply...it is still classless.

I can't support something I don't believe in. It has destroyed this person's business, quite possibly will destroy his marriage. I can't encourage a venture which looks fruitless. Not one person on this Blog has ever been funded...Not even you!

As for the article...The person in the article who was arrested is a Ranger or Product manager, whatever they want to call themselves, with COR, to me that makes them connected. Check out North Dakota Securities Deparment
article published May 20, 2010. He has been in trouble with the Securities Commission as early as 2004. In 2006 the NASD took disciplinary action against him. That is enough smoke for anyone to stay away from. by DoNotBelieve January 7, 2011 5:26 PM

Forgot, I would never ask for a "Hand Out". Besides...I don't need one! by DoNotBelieve January 7, 2011 5:29 PM

DoNotBelieve,

You do not have to believe in it. That is your opinion, and you know what the say about opinions. Again, you have no money invested so you should keep your mouth shut.. Who needs your encouragement. What makes you so special? Why does anyone need your approval?

Has this person done anything wrong with COR's involvement. The answer is no. So you want to make COR guilty by association.

As for the funding, once we are funded, there will be no need to come here and talk to individuals that either passed on their oppurtuntiy or justed brokered a deal.

by mdudd January 7, 2011 6:03 PM

I see what the person I know is going through and it is torture for him. It is absolutely gutwrenching. He has been promised a disbursement for months and all he gets are Emails stating delays, we are working on it, we will get it done etc. It tears him up. How can anybody realistic think they can invest $20,000.00 and expect to be given Millions in return. This isn't real! It doesn't work that way. Again I ask...Has anyone ever been funded?Please let us know! by DoNotBelieve January 7, 2011 6:39 PM

You want proof....

Any AGENCY or group that says they are part of a public traded company (as COR's emails have said) falls under the SEC umbrella. COR does not have a license and is not legally registered. To reference that they are part of the stock market WHEN THEY ARE NOT is very illegal.

Any person or group that promises to transfer money without proper reporting procedures to the IRS are in violation of the bank anti-trust laws. Again, COR is not porperly registered.

Any agency acting as a bank or enters in a legally-binding contract and does not perform within a reasonable timeframe is in violation of contract las and the bank anti trust laws.

Any person or agency that willingly enters into contracts and takes deposits and does not perform, even when they refund the deposits, is in violation of the federal fraud laws.

You wanted proof: Read your contracts, then read your emails where they then violation their own contracts and you will have your own individual proofs. Then, please, report the violation to the proper authorities of your choice. The more complaints to various federal, state, and local authorities, the more the case is coordinated and prosecuted. The more people ask authorities, even if not invested, the more likely the case will be proscecuted.

CALL NOW! Please! by Waitedtoolong January 8, 2011 11:24 AM

Sorry, I have been off the scene for a few days, but during my absence I was able to contact the Executive Vice President and Managing Director of Business Technology & Securities Division for Origination News (ON). He has made it very clear that ON is prepared to provide the IP addresses of any poster that place slanderous and discrediting information against any person or business on any blog. – Through proper channels of course. They have had to do this on several occasions to include providing reprints under court orders. For example, he provided me with a sample on how detailed their traffic source is. The two most opinionated posters on this blog are identified in the Philadelphia and Arizona area - YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE. According to the VP, they have that narrowed down to the cities and the longitude and latitude within it. WOW!I have already forwarded the contact information over and offer any assistance to help identify those that were born idiots. HAHAHA…. So, keep hiding behind the scenes.

Now, for some bit of good news. My assistant will be providing me with an email address that I can pass on. Unless you have not received funding yet, once I post this address, please provide me with some scrubbed down information that you are a project partner and I will send you a scrubbed down screenshot of funding posted in my company’s account as of 01/05/2010. Although this goes against our individual Trust Agreements, I am sure COR will not mind. I hope this will bring you some comfort that COR is making this happen for us all. I will post the email address tomorrow evening.

Good luck!

by DoOrDie January 8, 2011 1:15 PM

Do you really think anybody is going to fall for your latest tactic to collect names?

I say again: Any legitimate business entity does not play these kinds of games. by Waitedtoolong January 9, 2011 1:17 PM

Collect names for what idiot? If they are a partner the can scrubbed down something a non-partner or a leech like you will not have – without their names attached. Go take your parasite ass somewhere and get a life. We got your number chump. by DoOrDie January 9, 2011 2:13 PM

DoOrDie

Why are you so belligerent? You sound like a vey angry person. What does showing anyone an account with money in from 01/05/10 prove? That was a year ago anyway! by DoNotBelieve January 9, 2011 5:40 PM

I knew soon or later the side kick would sprout up. Please forgive me boy or girl wonder, 1/05/11 – common mistake.

by DoOrDie January 9, 2011 5:43 PM

I am not a sidekick...have no clue who Waitedtoolong is.
The real mistake is believing ther is funding coming. by DoNotBelieve January 9, 2011 6:22 PM

Let’s get this straight. I’m annoyed that fools like you that have nothing invested as you claim (personally I think one of you is straddling the fence) do not see the harm that you are or have committed or committing to the partners that are involved. My risk to show a scrubbed down screen shot is to give the dedicated partners a bit of comfort as I previous indicated. It is very unfortunate that you nor the other non-invested can’t see that. Maybe it’s because your client or even yourself have quit or got dropped. In any case, it has been tough for us all.

This next statement is for Mr. Ross Hagen if you are reading this. I have not heard anything about you nor knew of your existence until this blog a few days ago. I immediately asked my Ranger about you and without hesitation he stated that you are a good man. – Case close for me. It is my personal thought that for anyone to know that you are a Ranger, must come from your list of Partners. – Simply because I cannot find anything that states you are a Ranger with COR. Please use and find any possible connections you may have in the two identified areas above. I am sure you will know exactly what to do with your findings.

Let us see what tomorrow brings.

by DoOrDie January 9, 2011 6:59 PM

On December 10, a blogger named Tim Bieser gave a list of names of people who were connected with COR. I just
checked out names on the list and found information on those people from that. It was quite simple.
Like I said," I do not have money invested but I do know somebody who does", and I don't like watching what it is doing to that person...it is torture! I am not a client, I have not quit, and I have not been dropped!
Tomorrow brings What? Your Email address? by DoNotBelieve January 9, 2011 8:10 PM

On December 10, a blogger named Tim Bieser gave a list of names of people who were connected with COR. I just
checked out names on the list and found information on those people from that. It was quite simple.
Like I said," I do not have money invested but I do know somebody who does", and I don't like watching what it is doing to that person...it is torture! I am not a client, I have not quit, and I have not been dropped!
Tomorrow brings What? Your Email address? by DoNotBelieve January 9, 2011 8:10 PM

On December 10, a blogger named Tim Bieser gave a list of names of people who were connected with COR. I just
checked out names on the list and found information on those people from that. It was quite simple.
Like I said," I do not have money invested but I do know somebody who does", and I don't like watching what it is doing to that person...it is torture! I am not a client, I have not quit, and I have not been dropped!
Tomorrow brings What? Your Email address? by DoNotBelieve January 9, 2011 8:10 PM

Looks like the site had a little malfunction here. Message was sent more than once. Don't know what happened. by DoNotBelieve January 9, 2011 8:13 PM

I got a friend whose wife is cheating on him. Should I post that cheating slut behavior online because my friend is devastated? Man, get real. Who are you, President of the Save a Partner from COR? Let your imaginary friend control their own business or man up and identify who you really are. by DoOrDie January 9, 2011 8:44 PM

DoOrDie - I cannot find YOU on the Internet. Even if you have identified yourself on this blog, I cannot verify who yuo are.

This blog is about illegal business activities and to warn others. That is not an 'angry' response and, after reading your statesments, you are the one who sounds angry. You are also about the third 'client' who has tried to draw people out in public for purposes other than to ligitimately share information.

Again I say, I would not do business with a group that is so violitile. I would not do business with a group who is actively participating in illegal business activities. by Waitedtoolong January 10, 2011 8:10 AM

Nor can you find anything on Tim Bieser, but he’s real. Actually he was part of my Ranger’s group. The bottom-line is I am all for legitimate posting of information. What I am not for is the bull you just stated, “illegal activity” without sound evidence of it. If you have something that you received from some legal authority, by all means share it. Other than that, you are playing a dangerous game.

I have a set of special skills and resources that I have not even attempted to tap into. If I feel that the future of my project is being hindered in anyway by unproven comments by anyone, I will seek you out, I will find you and I we will dance. Angry man, not right now, relentless and determine, ALWAYS!

by DoOrDie January 10, 2011 9:04 AM

So where is the promised email address? by Waitedtoolong January 10, 2011 4:30 PM

Waitedtoolong...There is no Email address because...Once again disbursement funding has been delayed, what else is new!! by DoNotBelieve January 10, 2011 4:42 PM

DoOrDie,
We are a project partner. We were waiting for the email address you was suppose to post. However, I definitely understand if you changed your mind. Just as you said we were looking for a comfort and guage on determining how fast the process is moving. Our project was toward some of the last one's accepted. These buffoons are claiming that the disbursement was delayed once more because you did not put an email up. please verify for us once again whether you did in fact get a disbursement on 1-5-2011. Thank you. by CORWILLFUND January 10, 2011 5:47 PM

Forgive me.

The wonder twins threw me off. I'm having a conference call with my partners and I will get it from my assistant at that time. Will post it at 7 cst.

Wonder twins: Why are you looking for it? Please just deactive or someone will do it for you. by DoOrDie January 10, 2011 6:26 PM

Thank you very much. The Wonder Twins are just a little testy because they "jumped the gun" and missed the "fund". But truthfully DoOrDie pay them no mind and concentrate on your project. Misery loves company! by CORWILLFUND January 10, 2011 7:17 PM

Thank you very much. The Wonder Twins are just a little testy because they "jumped the gun" and missed the "fund". But truthfully DoOrDie pay them no mind and concentrate on your project. Misery loves company! by CORWILLFUND January 10, 2011 7:18 PM

AGAIN...I don't know Waitedtoolong, I never had any money invested in COR and I never will. I do know from a reliable source that there was no disbursement and once again the funding is delayed! Still don't know anybody that has been funded! One thing is correct...CORWILLFUND
the only thing they are funing is COR themselves! by DoNotBelieve January 10, 2011 8:13 PM

Well 7:00 Central has come and passed...8:30 time for football! by DoNotBelieve January 10, 2011 8:26 PM

DoOrDie please don't forget the email address. Thanks

by CORWILLFUND January 10, 2011 8:36 PM

Unlike most folks there is a legitimate business going on over here.

Buffoons they are, but one is actually an active partner that has been identified. So, when he gets an email instead of a disbursement, he will know why. Unfortunately, I cannot feel sorry for him.

I’m doing this because we all have had our uncertainties and although I strongly feel that COR is unskilled in this area of funding. It will happen.

I know it’s hard to trust anyone on this darn blog – especially when you have clowns like the Wonder Twins with their lack of evidence to support their erroneous claims. If you interested, I am willing to send a scrubbed down screenshot of my first disbursement. To receive that please for me page 24 of your Security Agreement – scrubbed down of course to dondierksbuilders@gmail.com.

I see I have typo also.Was in a hurry to watch the game. Meant to say funding not funing in my last message. The only thing COR is funding is COR themselves. by DoNotBelieve January 11, 2011 1:40 PM

Where is everybody? Snowed in...or waiting for their money? by DoNotBelieve January 13, 2011 11:43 AM

Well it would seem the blog has slowed way down. I ask myself is it the fact that DoOrDie put to rest the will COR fund question? I believe that the funding is there.
Thanks

by Agoodventure January 13, 2011 10:36 PM

Agoodventure
It is probably because he was told to put a sock in it.
There is no funding around here. Once again only an Email with delayed status...Not one person has been funded as stated by all of the bloggers above since this Blog got started way back in August, and they go back for two tears some of them. Don't spend your money yet!
It probably will never come! by DoNotBelieve January 14, 2011 8:52 AM

Tried posting a reply...didn't seem to go through. I will test with this then try again. by DoNotBelieve January 14, 2011 9:03 AM

To: DoNotBelieve

Misery loves company does it – not a question. By now you should have realized that you hold no potency to anything that you say. You are a fool! You are claiming to be concerned about someone you know involved with COR. That is so damn funny to me. Do you really believe anyone cares what you say? You have NO INVESTED interest in this. Get a life! As a matter of fact get a job, because clearly you have too much time on your hand to be looking for conversations on the blogs and your pursuit to this internet vigilantism must stop. LOL! For the record NO ONE silence me. You are the lone bozo here unless the other Wonder Twin activates.

Agoodventure – I was able to help a few folks relax. We are good. Thanks.

by DoOrDie January 14, 2011 10:11 AM

I’m feeling a little humorous right now.

Wonder Twin powers activate!

The boy twin: Form of a Partner Protector!

The girl twin: Form of a Skill Psychologist!

LOL! Forgive me, I had to go there.

by DoOrDie January 14, 2011 10:22 AM

Do you really think you are funny?! You are probably the same kind of person who laughs at their own jokes. I don't know where this Wonder Twins thing comes from but whatever. I do know that funding was delayed once again because I saw the message myself. Held up Friday maybe Monday...But OH Wait...Monday is a Holiday...Sorry about that...Forget Monday...And the Saga goes on!
By the way I have a Great Prsperous Life, so wrong again! by DoNotBelieve January 15, 2011 11:04 AM

Actually, I have received 7 emails from blog readers applauding how I keep sticking it to you. So yes, I laugh at my own jokes, because there funny.

Let me see if I understand. You “know somebody” that has money invested with COR. They are to be funded so they cannnnn – let’s saaaay, open a chain of Wonder Twins Hot Wings restaurants throughout the Midwest. They are sad and depressed and losing all that they have worked towards by the minute – because of COR missed deadlines. They have not asked for their money back, they have not filed suit and nor have they filed a complaint with any legal authority. They share all information they receive from their Ranger or COR with you – because you know them?! So you can take that information to the World Wide Web to protect others from making the same mistake they have. Ummmm. I’m just not feeling that. Let me tell you what I do feel. You are probably a disgruntle Partner or maybe an ex-La Bon Table Foods board member or a desperate broker/consultant or a greedy member of COR itself. Whoever you are, this does not help. Stop what you are doing, because at the end of the day your foot is not all you will be eating. Your actions are affecting the Partners and their supporters. Your mockery and non-proven allegations are not needed here.
Crazy things have happen when it comes to the internet.

Let’s not make this be one of them.

by DoOrDie January 15, 2011 2:26 PM

All of the above is totally false. Only two statements are true...I see the information from the Ranger or COR because I know the person invested!My advice to them is to get their money out...and hopefully they will do that. Also I do take the information to the web, so that others will not make the same mistake!
Never been a partner, never will, have no idea what La Bon Table Foods is? So you think COR has greedy members...Interesting comment! I am glad my comments are affecting Partners, maybe some will wake up and get out!
As for allegations, have made none except for funding has been delayed, which is a fact. Anything written about certain people is a matter of public knowledge through newspapers and court doucuments! Halftime is over...Got to GO! by DoNotBelieve January 15, 2011 6:31 PM

' by summerheat January 15, 2011 6:45 PM

Hey DoOrDie
Thanks for mentioning LaBonTable foods...Never heard of it before...but I see our Good Friend Alberto Colon is on the Board of Directors...What do you know! by DoNotBelieve January 15, 2011 7:13 PM

Should have made myself clear...on the Board of Directors of the oppising side. Sorry about that. by DoNotBelieve January 15, 2011 7:18 PM

DoOrDie
P.S. I don't know who you thinking you are sticking it to.I am not out any money and don't plan to be.
I am trying to make people aware of the ridiculousness of this! Can't believe anyone could think for $20,000 or so you are going to have an ROI of Millions. It is absurd! Got to go watch second game. by DoNotBelieve January 15, 2011 8:58 PM

Well this opens a whole new dimension to you ignorance and foolishness. You don’t know anything; especially what is specified knowledge to all Partners. I was sadly mistaken. You are a bigger fool than I thought you were. You have said enough.

Who’s next?

by DoOrDie January 15, 2011 9:02 PM

You must not be a football fan...It is once again Halftime.
You really don't need to resort to name calling.
You have accused me of being a disgruntled Partner,former Partner. I have told you many times I am not and I have not been. I have however seen all the messages coming out and I do know what people are expecting from their initial investment as far as disbursements. So say what you want. I know what I saw in writting or print, whichever you prefer. by DoNotBelieve January 15, 2011 9:47 PM

Agoodventure – I was able to help a few folks relax. We are good. Thanks.

by DoOrDie January 14, 2011 10:11 AM

In response.
I am not taking back by any negative reports that do not hold up. I firmly believe in what COR is trying to accomplish and understand that the big money wheels turn ever so slow. I have followed the trail as best possible on the internet, from the renaming of Le Bon to Noble Groups Holdings. I have checked the SEC and seen the documentation. All is good on my end of the spectrum. I am waiting and intend to wait till COR says "No we are unable to do this." or they come to the table with funding. All of the information and time that is given to me is just information and time I have to make better choices on future projects and ventures.
Thanks by Agoodventure January 16, 2011 9:27 AM

CHECK OUT POST by Tim Bieser dated December 10, 2010.
It says a lot and is found to be accurate.

@Agoodventure
You are waiting, I guess it is just how long you are willing to hang on the hope of funding. You also admit you have not received any funding. Not one person has seen funding from this entire Blog! Go Figure! by DoNotBelieve January 16, 2011 11:06 AM

DoNotBelieve,

Could you point out the statement where I admitted to not receiving any funds? I do see where I am willing to wait on funding or word from COR but not where I said, "I have not received funding?" Just wanting that to be pointed out for those that like myself are standing firm in the process. I know maybe it is a play on the use of words but, if you make a statement please be accurate. Then we have to deal with the aspect of what is the funding that you are so set on? Is it the GnA money for startup expenses, is it that first installment or is it the lump sum of which you speak? We all have our own hopes, dreams and desires. I see by your post that you wish COR to fail. That is your choice and I respect you for your commitment to that resolution. Along the same lines please respect the decisions of others to firmly believe that COR will fund. I do look at the information you post along with any other information that I can obtain, I digest it, and continue an on going evaluation of my part. And as you so elegantly put it I do "Go Figure!"
Thanks by Agoodventure January 16, 2011 12:28 PM

Pardon me for a play on words as you say. So I guess I ask you, "Ever received any funding"? Any of the above, start up, first installment, lump sum? I can only speak of the person I know of...that person has received not one dime!
I don't care if COR fails or doesn't fail. I do care about people I know hanging their future on this happening through COR, going down this road and finding a Dead End! by DoNotBelieve January 16, 2011 12:50 PM

It seems well proved that COR has not funded again, based on the traffic of this blog.

To anyone who enters into a contract that has deadlines, takes a deposit, and knowingly, repeatedly, fails to meet those deadlines, and repeatedly enters into more of these types of contracts, it is fraud. The proof is in your own contracts by signitures and dates. by Waitedtoolong January 17, 2011 8:19 PM

Well said! No funding of any kind for the person I know!
It is now....DoOrDie!!! by DoNotBelieve January 18, 2011 6:46 PM

@ DoNotBelieve
Sorry to take so long to get back to you. Been a busy weekend and start of the week. The answer to your question is yes I have received funding. Whoa Let me continue to answer the question. No I have not received anything from COR. Yet again I restate that I have no money invested with COR. I am merely here to gather information on said Company. I have been exposed to the issues of wait here it is and whoops there it goes with other entities. We all have our own reasons for staying or leaving. America was built on the let's take a chance opportunity. Even the gold rush was a hope we strike it rich scheme. I seem to think that it is what we believe that makes us. Some believe in hopes and dreams and maybe even fairy tales heck even Santa Clause. Others have their whole being in if I can't see it it's not real. We all pick where we want to be. I too would not want anyone close to me to be hurt by unkept promises. Yet, I would hope that I would not be the discouragement that pushs them away from their hopes and dreams. I continue to see the bright side to most things. I will continue to keep the positive note until a conformation comes one way or the other.
Thanks by Agoodventure January 19, 2011 11:55 AM

I see your position more clearly now, thanks for explaining it. I am also a positive thinking person...but this venture justs gets to me. Once again another message of delay on funding for the person I know. I don't think this is ever going to happen. I will try and persuade this person to take his money out and go look elsewhere. I truly believe this COR group is a scam, fraud, ponzi scheme, whatever you want to call. And I just don't like to see people I know get hurt.
He was warned by other business associates not to deal with COR, but he was so desperate he did not listen.
Desperate people do desperate things! by DoNotBelieve January 19, 2011 12:07 PM

Well it looks like Cor is about to get there come uppin's I have just seen more federal paper passed out on Cor and all of it's so called Board members and rangers then dogs have flea's. Mr Colon is quickly becoming the full interest of the FBI and Homeland security's Anti Terrorist unit's Plus the crap load of legal filings mounting . damn I wouldnt want to be this guy burnie is laughing his ass off at the time these ol boys are looking at by The fly January 19, 2011 5:26 PM

It would seem that the I have seens and I have knowns are very outstanding and frequent on this blog. If you have seen or do know then the possibility of sharing can exist. My plea to any and all is that you share your findings so we can have some resolution to the matter. Agin only trying to gain information. With that all said maybe the other side would like to post some positive message to the group. Who knows? I surely do not.
Here's to getting to the truth, by Agoodventure January 19, 2011 6:09 PM

I cannot speak to the above Blog from the Fly. I have seen the mesages with my own eyes on all the excuses for the delay in funding, that I know for sure. From the new tax laws, to the banking issues, to the holidays to the let's make sure we have the correct banking info for the transfers, make sure everything is in place, on and on and on! Seriously how long can this go on! by DoNotBelieve January 19, 2011 9:55 PM

Curly has moved on and found legitimate funding – yeah right! Larry is speaking on behalf of someone he knows involved, but has not come to grips to asking for his/her money back – how odd is that?! Moe is without a doubt pulling the scare card out of his bag of lies. A very dangerous game he’s playing.

Clearly these highly miserable minded individuals have nothing better going on other then the profound revulsion that is clearly expressed by them and them alone.

The information you seek is not here. COR has begun funding and will continue.

by DoOrDie January 19, 2011 10:28 PM

Thanks DoOrDie, your input has been greatly appreaciated. I am sure that the afore mentioned gentleman have the best of intentions in protecting someone they have close contacts with. I also believe that possibly they have the negative information that is so available on the internet to go by. You say that the information I seek is not here. Could you direct me where I may find the information that I seek? Thank you so much for your input and positive support. by Agoodventure January 20, 2011 10:47 AM

The wording is what you need to look at...COR has begun funding...but no one has received any money. Not one person has come forth except DoOrDie and we know he is a COR guy...and even he hasn't said he actually has money in hand.
You are right about one thing...I am trying to get the person I know to get his money out...He is in DENIAL!
He is DESPERATE! That is not a good thing and not very rational! by DoNotBelieve January 20, 2011 10:57 AM

DoOrDie:

I don't understand and am hopeful that you can clear things up. You indicated that you received funds on the 5th and have offered to provide evidence of same. COR continues to provide written status reports that include an ever changing list of reasons why the fundings are being delayed. These reasons include regulatory and banking restrictions that should have kept you from receiving funds as well. I don't understand the discrepancy. If you received funds, the reasons that COR has listed for not funding everyone else don't appear to hold water.

It is circumstances such as this that cause many to openly question the facts. Are you able to shed some light on this?

by Abundanceoffrauds January 20, 2011 12:18 PM

@Abundanceoffrauds

Well said! Every correspondence I have seen has done nothing but give excuses for the delay.
New Tax Law, banking issues, checking bank information,
Holidays, internal funding issues...on and on and on!
You would think they would run out of excuses...But they just keep coming, keep everybody hanging on!
It really is sad that they have so many peoples lives hanging in the balance! by DoNotBelieve January 20, 2011 12:37 PM

- Abundanceoffrauds

I have no problem in explaining the elements to your question. Clearly you are a Partner that's going through much doubt due to much delays, but you have the guts to seek your own answers.

My position is much closer to the process due to the nature and level of my projects. To include, my gonads are much bigger than most to where I'm not afraid to identify myself and to speak out to assist others with the same common interest - no offense to you - I understand your position; unlike others that have no devoted importance and scurries behind a fictitious name. Sorry, I have no empathy for such populace that shares no common significance. Again, the DoNotBelievers out there with no invested interest and no clue to what's going on other than what there are reading, but not comprehending, limits me to posting the answer you seek on this blog.

Please feel free to email me and we can discuss this through a more proper channel.

by DoOrDie January 20, 2011 1:55 PM

DoOrDie

Basically everybody on here is seeking answers, but getting none. Just delays, what is your explanation for that? Even you have not come out and shown any proof of funding being completed for anyone. COR will fund...is not a done deal...It is just words! by DoNotBelieve January 20, 2011 4:24 PM

Doordie

Hello Alberto you and your band of crooks are running like roaches in the light when it comes to the feds, there have been three attempts to pull monies from the banks and Ooops the accounts are frozen. Once again if you are a project partner/victim pull out now before your monies are seized by the feds pending convictions of these find upstanding band of fellows. As I said before down here in texas we don't look kindly to carpet baggers like this Cor Group. Hey Alberto didnt you get kicked off the trading floor for illegal trading and personal issues ?????? by The fly January 20, 2011 5:51 PM

@ FLY

Where can I find out more info on this group like you mentioned above. I would like to obtain more info so I could show it to the person I know who has money invested. Maybe seeing something tangible in writting would help convince him to get out...if it is not too late! Any help would be appreciated! by DoNotBelieve January 20, 2011 10:49 PM

I am going to try to make this as comprehensible and uncomplicated as I can. You two are insignificant. I have yet to read on this blog about anyone stepping up and thanking any of you for the information you have provided. And the Partners outweigh you jerks thirty times.

- DoNotBelieve
Why in the world would you think that I would provide you an explanation on anything? Have you not read my prior post? Are you really having a problem with your intellectual capacity?

- The Fly
Are you as brainless as your post? Do you not know the damage you are causing for yourself or are you that simple minded to think that you will get away with this level of slandering?

In my 32 years of doing business, I have never witnessed the level of recklessness as seen here on this blog. You buffoons are a piece of work.

by DoOrDie January 20, 2011 11:53 PM

DoOrDie

Not looking for explanation from you...Would never get the truth anyway. All you are into is name calling.
I was looking for information from other Bloggers to get a better handle on the situation.
Once again there was NO FUNDING around here. Just more excuses and delays! by DoNotBelieve January 21, 2011 8:25 AM

All I do is speak the truth, but I will only speak to those that have the same common interest.

Which of the names don't describe you and what message did you not understand? by DoOrDie January 21, 2011 1:32 PM

DoOrDie

Okay where is a company or firm that has been funded in the past 2 years from Cor please show us . No name calling just the facts. Show one.

If you can't Alberto (DoOrDie) then just go away give those people back there money and do your time in jail it's over.

I have seen a ton of federal paper on Cor from the FBI to the IRS all gearing up to slam em all in jail for a very long time.

there was a blogger talking about Tim beiser I looked him up as well nothing to report there not sure where he fits in either he knows a vic of cors or have just put it all together himself but the guy is'nt far from the mark Cor is going down the drain.

But being fair I did some digging on my own and I found this out. 1. Cor does not have a real address just a string of P.O and UPS drop boxes. They have opened and closed a crap load of bank accounts in the past 3 years 2. When you call cor you get an answering service prepaid of course and it seems they all operate from there laptops. Just for giggles and grinds I looked up there Attorney's address listed and it turns out to be a private home if you google Mr. Artemio Rivera Esq you will get 2 listing for him one in Va and the other in DC funny I cant find a business address for him in DC nor a active LTP

As for the funding that will never happen the delay after delay is just that a delay. There has been no problems with the IRS or the DTCC or any Federal agency they have stated in there UPDATES that would have not shown up on public news outlet when it came to the sear amount of money they are claiming to have or getting come on please really has anyone heard of anything concerning this type of money other then wall street and burnie of course .

Look at the end of the day it's jail time for them all big time. I'm just a hard working Texas country boy but there are a few things don't do and what Cor is doing fits that list and then some. You say you have been in business for 32 years I find that really hard to beleive

by The fly January 21, 2011 5:26 PM

DoNotBeleive

If you take a strool down to your local office of the FBI and explain you are a victim of Cor I am sure they will be very interested in your story and as you know They can not comment of any on going investigations but they can tell you that Cor is an active case. Also if you go to the BBB, DTCC or for that matter any of the Agencies Cor has sited in there So Called UPDATES you will find no listings or problems and as I said before if there had been any such problems with the amount of money Cor is claiming to have we would have all heard of it on the news . I have a few experts that have been going over there so called UPDATES and all of them have are rubish we do however have a lock on 2 of the IP addresses but thats for another day if you know of some one that has money in Cor have them pull it out within the next 10 days after that it will be locked with the feds to include the offshore accounts by The fly January 21, 2011 5:45 PM

Wow! As they would say in Texas, "you are as handy as hip pockets on a hog". You figured out all this on your own. No more calling you names. I would assume you have COR feeling like a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs. We should find Alberto and beat him like a rented mule.

All jokes aside, you are as cold as a well digger's lunch pail.

Howdddddyyyy!

by DoOrDie January 21, 2011 6:45 PM

FLY
Thanks for the information. I have done some digging on my own. Actually that is how I found this site in the first place. Have also found newspaper and court documents concerning indictments against several names on the list of COR representatives, or whatever they want to call themselves.
I have read almost all of the updates, it is double talk. I think I have the person I know talked into getting his money out and then maybe he will go to the authorities after that. by DoNotBelieve January 21, 2011 11:11 PM

I would like to reply, but this is just a waste of time. It is like a soap opera, that needs to be cancelled. Do or Die and other project partners, good luck in your projects. by mdudd January 22, 2011 11:48 AM

You are absolutely correct mdudd. Anything positive will bevoured by nonsense. Feel free to email me.

Clearly you are more personally attached to this funding than you let on. Taunting others that believes in COR seems a little excess to what you have shared. No one in their right mind will be giving this much attention to a blog for someone "they know".

Share your real reason for being here. Maybe we can help you through it. If not here, email me – no one will ever know.

by DoOrDie January 22, 2011 3:30 PM

DoOrDie and Others here

The fact that Cor has not come forth with any real information of there funding ouline only that they are ready to fund next week or in the next few days and so on and well you have heard it all here. This is the real facts.

There are NO FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR ANY PROJECT THERE NEVER WAS OR NEVER WILL BE. Cor can not or for that matter any of it's so called Rangers provide and of it's Project Partners with any Hard Proof that this will or has happened. As I have stated before (IF YOU CAN SHOW PROOF OF ANYONE IN THE WORLD THAT HAS BEEN FUNDED BY COR IN THE PAST 2 YEARS PLEASE DO) If not DoOrDie you and your band of theifs are nothing but liars and from this point anything you post here will be taken as just that useless and meaning less lies.To All Project Partners/Victims out there Please get your money out now as I said before The Feds are closing in fast. Don't take my work make a few calls yourselfs ie, the FBI the SEC the BBB and The DTCC you will find that either they are under investigation or never heard of them before. It's a Scam that has run it's course and now they are all looking at some hard time in the pokie. DoOrDie you talk the talk but you can't walk the walk as I have have stated nothing but true facts that can be backed up. Cor is a fake and it's claims to have these's vast amounts of monies is just that claims nothing to back it up and No proof but the word of you and the so called rangers that you lie to as well Shame on you by The fly January 22, 2011 4:32 PM

First of all, I am a paid project partner that believes. It’s just that simple and that’s my talk and walk.

Do you read what you type? You are all over the place.

 they are funding terrorist
 their funds are about to be frozen
 their funds are frozen
 they have no money
 they are under investigation

If there is truly an ongoing investigation generated by you or “someone you know” – like DoNotBelieve does; you would not be diffusing it. Why would you give the accused any chance of knowing what is about to emerge? Don’t tell me – because they are being watch 24/7 and there is no way for them to flee or change what has already started and you want to warn us so we can pull out before it is to late – Yeah right!

For those that wish to know whether this Texas hard working country BOY is telling the truth, feel free to contact Lisa Madigan, Illinois Attorney General or Michael Pavia, Chicago's FBI Chief Counsel for any past or present investigations against COR and their personnel. You will be surprise to what they would have to say. - I was.

Until then, you can put your boots in the oven, but that don't make em biscuits. Only a Texas hard working country BOY know what that means.

by DoOrDie January 22, 2011 6:18 PM

It's you can put your boots in the oven but it wont make em buscuits. Get it right son!! Now as for the on going investigations Son your like the empty wagan all noise and No content. All the offices DoOrDie except The FBI do not handle Crooks like Cor but will pass on information to the feds as DoOrDie well knows I have read the so called contract Cor submitted to three of it's victims all a bunch of dead ends and open promises. but will hold up in court and to address the links to terrorist well either they are pocketing all of the victoms money or using the legit companies as fronts to move money around the world masking terrorist funds Thats a real concern to the Feds and others and thats what they think is going on the indictment list for Cor and those with it will be so long it will take a week just to get thur it . Now for the cow pie you told about you got funded as a project partner seeing as you wanta get all good ol boy with it. Son I didn't think they could stack s#@t that high in the whopper you belted out with that one I think you just hammered the last nail in the coffen boy . where is the proof where is the money show us please. If that was true every project partner/Victim would have gotten a e-mail with the proof to show all but wait a sec there are no such e-mails cause there has been no such funding and Yes they are coming for you Alberto and you band of crooks and it's coming soon. SHOW THE PROOF OF FUNDING PLEASE SHOW IT !?!?!?!? by The fly January 22, 2011 7:11 PM

There you have it. Another consultant and or unlicensed broker. NO INVESTED INTEREST other than looking for a quick buck ("I have read the so called contract Cor submitted to three of it's victims"). Hang tough for your clients.

Next.

by DoOrDie January 22, 2011 7:21 PM

Oh it's foreclosures the bank have son. hell thats as funny as a crossed eyes bull in a pasture full of heifers and only a hour to handle his business. Go back under that rock you climbed up from son your trspassing on GODS Country. You got nothing but lip thats about the same all of the project partners have as well from you and Cor. Maybe you can tell them how you spend there money or reinvest it Or how you and Cor help sponsor Terror around the world by using these folks companies and money as fronts to hide whats really going on . I am sure the Moms, husbands,wifes and kids of our brave men and women fighting over there would love to know of your dealing and I know they will very soon by The fly January 22, 2011 7:27 PM

DoOrDie If I were a broker I would have steered these good folks away long ago . The real fact is you have nothing No Proof of funding. And you can't give any cause there is none. The fact you all are crooks well thats a fact the Fact you are helping terrorist well prove us wrong show everyone that Cor is on the up and up. have your day on TV set up a site and disclose it all. I have seen scams and I have investigated better crooks then the likes of you and your little troop. Nothing but words DoOrDie You have no Proof and you can't disprove anything that I have stated as fact. Do you know why ?????? Cause it's all true your little band is falling off one or two at a time and they are coming for the rest real soon. JUST SHOW PROOF TO ALL OF THOSE HERE. As I said everyone if DoOrdie or Cor can't show you real proof or invite you into a real office this week comin (KNOW WHEN TO WALK AWAY AND KNOW WHEN TO RUN) well it's time to RUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!! by The fly January 22, 2011 7:42 PM

Clearly I hit a nerve and now you are reaching for what you never had. Creditability! Your grammar was not that good to begin with, so you must really be upset, because your recent post was horrible. On top of that, I believe I did a better job in my Texas slang rendition.

You are neither a consultant nor a broker, so you must share the same DNA as DoNotBelieve. – Maybe one in the same.

by DoOrDie January 22, 2011 8:21 PM

DoNotBeleive

Not a problem my friend I am glay to help you and your friend. Now have your friend get there money back as soon as they can do not accept any delays with this or let them tell you it will take time demand the money back NOW and take the wire transfer information to the FBI and local law enforcement. They will be able to file a complaint with the FBI and the DOJ have all the paper work Cor sent to them via mail and e-mail also have all the so called UPDATES copied and printed when they talk to the Feds and Cops. There are some fedreal programs that may be able to halp as they are a disstressed business the SBA also has some good programs that may help it wont be the type of monies that Cor claimed to have but it may help. Remember the more people step up the faster these crooks are off the street and in the pokie for two or three lifetimes. We have called the Number Cor Provided on one of there contracts and guess what none of the ext. work as I said GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN. by The fly January 22, 2011 8:30 PM

I had to try to read this mess again, but you stated you investigated better crooks….. So you are an investigator! I cannot stop laughing as I type this. My goodness! So you investigate on the blogs. – A Texas country boy investigator. Now that beats it all. Whoa!
Please hurry DoNotBelieve. Time is of essence.

by DoOrDie January 22, 2011 8:38 PM

Well Son I'll just put it this way it's from a old TV show I am sure you were either just a glimmer in your pap's eye or a little ankle nipper (Dragnet Joe Friday) just the fact just the facts and you don't have any just lip get a clue Alberto it's over boy youer time is up and so is Cor All your phone lines are now blank and you guys are running. The number of cases that are coming your way . Hell son my grammer don't mean nothin conplaired to the S@#t storm of legal issues and jail time you and yours are lookin at. Oh Yeah Once again where is your funding proof who got paid what project partner has money in the bank from Cor and for your information I were born and wenned about 20 mile out side of laredo and I've been in business longer then you were tall enough to squeeze one off in the comold so have your little smart reply Mr Colon and tell us about all of Cor's big funding plans and how you have been funded Oh correction how you have stolen the mony of those invested awaiting there dreams but you call it funding. Thats the password yall when Cor cuts up the pot (your money) they send out this funding e-mail WHERE IS THE FUNDING PROOF WHEREV ??????????????????? by The fly January 22, 2011 8:48 PM

PROOF PROOF PROOF WHERE IS IT WHERE YOU LAUGH WELL THATS IT BUT HE WHO LAUGHS LAST LAUGHS BEST. CUT THE CRAP SON NAND SHOW US SOME REAL PROOF. ALL I SEE FROM YOU IS SMART LIP NO PROOF AND NO DISPROOF. HELL IF WHAT I SAID WASN'T TRUE YOU AND Cor WOULD HAVE BEEN ALL OVER THIS LIKE A DUCK ON A JUNEBUG NOTHING BUT LIP BOY NO PROOF NOTHING BUT BS. YOUR WORLD IS CRASHING AROUND YOU TAKE A BREAK FROM SMOKIN THAT STUFF AND SEE THE FACTS YOU ARE GOING DOWN. WHERE IS THE PROOF WHERE I AM SURE ONCE THE OTHERS THAT HAVE WASTED THERE TIME AND MONEY WITH THE LIKES OF YOU WILL READ THESE THEADS AND PULL OUT QUICKER THEN A JOHN WITH THE LAW KNOCKIN AT THE DOOR. PROOF WHERE IS THE PROOF WE HAVE EXCHANGED WORDS HERE I HAVE STATED FACTS AND INFORMATION AND YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING YOU HAVE SHOWN NO PROOF YOU HAVE NO LINKS AND YOU ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME by The fly January 22, 2011 9:00 PM

Ok,thanks The Fly. You have been a great help! See you in the next sequel. I really hope Jeff Goldblum comes back.

by DoOrDie January 22, 2011 9:00 PM

The proof is not needed anymore. You said it yourself. The Feds are moving in. Did you forget? Let it go! It's over with. COR and I are going to the poooookie!

by DoOrDie January 22, 2011 9:04 PM

This Is true Cor is going down and you have NO PROOF OF FUNDING OR FUNDS That you received under the scam of Millions offered by Cor only the growing list of those either indicted or in jail for there part in these scams and the door is knocking son and it aint publisher clearning house with that check it's the law boy it the law your next words should be ( I fought the law and the law won) And you are correct about one thing they will make a movie about this one of that I am sure. One thing to remember when the iron door slams ( SOAP ON A ROPE)that aint no joke by The fly January 22, 2011 9:19 PM

Well now I am really impressed. by Agoodventure January 22, 2011 9:22 PM

Looks like you guys did a lot of talking last night, sorry I wasn't home to join in. DoOrDie, the Fly and I are not related, I have never even been to the state of Texas!
One thing that bears mentioning is...Not one person has shown, including you, proof of Funding of any kind. I can only come to the conclusion like the others on the blog...Because there is NO FUNDING! by DoNotBelieve January 23, 2011 10:30 AM

DoNotBelieve

What you are failing to realize is that it will not be shown to anyone that has no invested interest in the process. I have received more than a 2 dozen emails from real partners that have been able to identify with the proof and truth. Which email were you (Mush Room)?

by DoOrDie January 23, 2011 10:56 AM

I have told you many times, I do not have money invested. Someone close to me does...but hopefully not for long. He is close to pulling out! I have seen all the messages he receives, and he is not any closer to receiving funds than he was when he starteded this process. It just seems that COR would run out of excuses...but they keep coming! They are clever though with the messages, they send them to themselves and blind copy so nobody else sees the other people involved.
You basically only have one person to go to for information. by DoNotBelieve January 23, 2011 11:08 AM

My goodness, a bag of rocks are smarter.

I understand you are not invested and you know someone that is. Duh! The point is you nor your country blog investigator buddy will not get anything from me or anyone else because you are not a partner. - Crystal now?

If you are able to get the person that is close to you to pull out and you are happy, good. Best of luck in his/her endeavors. I wish them the best.

by DoOrDie January 23, 2011 11:33 AM

...nor would we ever let you in, dnb. by State of Texas January 23, 2011 6:00 PM

Okay All No more Texas jokes or cute little saying this is the real deal Cor is shuting down there phone service is now blank if you call the number you just get this is Cor development if you know you party ...... But when you hit the ext ie 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 nothing I would hope that your guy got out NoNotBeleive I think it's too late. they are crawling back under the rock they oozed out of But the Feds are going to be right there to Wet Vac em up . As it stand now there are 5 recevey Agencies in place to collect 10 million total from Cor and Mr Colon plus there are 3 or more Civil Actions suits pending totaling 230 Million in damages directly connected to there so called contract and failure to proform and there was one thing they were right about and that is the IRS it seems Cor failed to report all of the intake money they stole .You see when 20k is transfered the IRS wants to know why this was not reported if you have a business talk to you CPA or Accountant or Call the IRS and report this Fraud now before you are stuck with the headache. It was 10k before 911 now it's 5 and they watch that too. But Cor never issues a 1099 to any of it's Project Partners/Victims If you say my little chat with Mr Colon yesterday here pI asked for Proof and I asked for him or anyone to dis prove anything I stated and as you see nothing here dial this number 847-305-3800 this should be proof enough that they are simple crooks nothing more . if there is anyone out there that has a project with these Crooks Please get on the phone call your local chapter of the FBI and report it NOW give them the wire transfer number and the name of there so called ranger and the so called broker that hooked them this my be your last chance to recover your money PLEASE HURRY by The fly January 23, 2011 7:21 PM

DoOrDie

Okay I'll play along with this one this time Alberto. Show us the proof shut us down share some of the e-mails from these true beleivers that have seen the light the pot of gold you claim to have and are ready to share with all those wide eyes Partners. It's very simple Just show us the Proof show one project that was funded if you can't do that then you are a liar and fraud and thief .These titles fit you because thats all you are . There is No Cor Development Group located anywhere in the United States of America . No Offices No EIN No listing with the SEC or DTCC Nothing No one from any of the trading floors have heard of Cor. There was some mention of a rag tag group trying to break in but never had the capital to maintain I would think that was you and you little band of 3 Mr Alberto . Oh the list of Cor's Department heads you know like curtis and others don't exist. So DoOrDie (Mr Alberto Colon) you can come back with your little snappy remarks or your Holyer then Tho We will prevail and Cor will Come over the hill at the last minute but the fact is you little cock roach you are about to get smushed. You have nothing to show or can prove all you have is more smart remarks delays and lies and mystery claims of funding or beleivers. You stole these good folks money and repaided them with nothing but lies you have hurt there companies and this country and you have provided aid and confort to the enemy durning a time of war. May God have mercy on your soul by The fly January 23, 2011 7:54 PM

"Hold Your Horses!" Slow down slim! You are sounding a little desperate there pilgrim. I thought we had an understanding. According to you it’s over. Once again, you are all over the place. The FBI doesn’t handle crooks like COR and now PLEASE HURRY and call the FBI. You sounding crazy cowboy. Let it be over.

Clearly you did not get the memo about the phone lines Mr. Magnum PI. – Because you are not a Partner, right? This is no game! There is nothing to play along to. You are going to get what’s coming to you. You can believe that!

Have a real Partner email me and I will give them what they need based on what I have. Other than that, put on your boots and spurs and ride out. Nice talking to you, you hear.

by DoOrDie January 23, 2011 8:23 PM

Yeah right Alberto you and yours are running thats plain and simple nothing more nothing less. You continue to make excuses and claim memo's and other delays but you have nothing No proof and no more time

by The fly January 23, 2011 8:32 PM

It's Called corprate Fruad Alberto The FBI handles that all day every day and as for my boots Hell son I just pulled them off . I didn't do any riding today so the spurs are still at the stable in my locker but thanks for bring them up I forgot to bring em home thanks partner (no pund ingtended) Oh I liked that show too by The fly January 23, 2011 8:38 PM

Blau, blau, blau..... I just got ten emails from folks saying something is mentally wrong with you. I told them to pray for you.

Good luck Mr. PI.

by DoOrDie January 23, 2011 8:45 PM

The Fly, you have zero credibility because you can't spell or put two words together to make a sentence that makes any sense. Even if you are totally right, no one takes you seriously.
Most of the people on this board are clueless about how large investment money actually moves. Agoodventure seems to be one of the few. Most of the rest with any intelligence have ceased to make comments.
No one however, seems to have figured out that Alberto is on this board as 5 different people so far. He's just watching you.
My advice to anyone who is uncertain; Ask for your earnest money back and go somewhere else. For those still willing to take the risk; Wait. Investing is a risk for investors, and finding venture capital is a risk for entrepreneurs. Risk.
If COR is a scam - and it certainly could be - then it will run it's course, some of you will get burned, and COR will get in trouble.
If COR is not a scam - and it may not be - then they will either fund or they won't.
It's part of the risk you signed on for.
And please try to resist the urge to joust with me on this board. I haven't seen one person here with the intelligence to do so without embarrassing themselves further.
..and I am finished anyway. by State of Texas January 23, 2011 8:46 PM

Thank you Alberto Thank you very much for finally admitting You and Cor are Crooks Very glad you have come to terms with that Fact Now maybe you can turn yourself in and it will be all over. And you can return some of the money you have stolen. All over the road You have no listing with the DTCC or the SEC and there have been No issues with monies connected to Cor with the IRS as I said They are getting very Interested in how you and Cor have collected all this money and not reported a dime. You can't make this stuff up son the lies you have told to the victims can all be debunked with simple calls. The funny thing about crooks like you is you guys always think your smarter then the law and the fact is you play right into there hands by your own arrogance. So where are your offices Alberto where could one of your true Project Partners walk in and look over there project with you or one of Cor's crack employees ?????? Nowhere Alberto cause there is no Office and there will be no Funding disclosure cause you have stolen the money. Please explain that to us to your victims tell them another pretty lie of hope and dreams. Once again all out there concerned Please Don't just go by my word even if it is true but call check out all I have stated here and GET YOUR MONEY BACK. all things being equal No one has been funded in 2 years or more and there is yet another delay. The main phone line to Cor is Down but there is another excuse for that as well . How long will it be out how long will the next delay be what is the next excuse. Please Prove me wrong I beg you Prove me wrong . Or i'll get mine just show us the money. Oh it won't be revailed to any non project partners which means you have the money and running with it. Oh have you had any problems booking a flight under the name Alberto Colon I'm not sure but it was or will be added to the No Fly list now this bit of info has not been veriflied but ??? I don't want to say what I don't know for sure so I will just leave it at that until I am sure by The fly January 23, 2011 9:03 PM

Well said, but I clearly disagree when it comes to all our intelligence.

My reason for responding to these fools should be obvious. If not, feel free to email me and I will tell you why.

by DoOrDie January 23, 2011 9:04 PM

State of texas

Well howdy Boy or should i say Alberto Damn son you just wont give up good luck with that one

yall take care u hear by The fly January 23, 2011 9:04 PM

You all had quite a flurry of discussion yesterday.
Myself, watching the NFL Playoffs!
Just received word Funding still on delay...SHOCK!
Now excuse is, "It is not up to Alberto, he has to wait for word to release the funds." What a bunch of bull! You guys are PATHETIC! by DoNotBelieve January 24, 2011 12:54 PM

It is up to God...Everyone will get what they deserve...Let Go and Let God. by Cherub of Hope January 24, 2011 5:05 PM

DoNotbeleive

This is the end game for Mr Colon and the other 3 that are Cor Development group the collection Agencies are all lining up as are civil action suits as well. Did you check out the phone line for Cor all the ext's are blank. Oh to this latest Delay it's not up to Alberto is code for we will not be able to fund anyone. There will be this sorry ass letter from alberto explaining how he and Cor did all they could to get the funds but those bad old disbeleivers out there got in there way and caused the so called real money holders to back off. Now for the real facts Al and the boys realize that the jig is up and the law and collection agencies and pending law suits amounting well over 340 Million at the last count are knocking at there door the feds are at there heels and the only thing they think they can do to get out is to blame it all on those that didnt beleive and they scared off mystery money men that never were . I have one word for Alberto and his little band of crooks (RICO ACT)it's all over. Please tell me your guy got his money out in time or is getting it out now Dont allow them any room DEMAND THE MONEY IN 24HRS then pick up the phone and sing to the FBI Look for Alberto's TV Appearance you can't miss him he will be the one in the bright ass orange jump suit that says DOC on the back by The fly January 24, 2011 8:44 PM

Nice move al you got the phones back on you had to do something quick in order to put your marks at ease until you guys can runnnnnnnnnn. by The fly January 24, 2011 8:52 PM

Let me predict the future. Tomorrow COR will announce that a big announcement will be made on Wednesday. On Wednesday they will state that everything is done and that the funding process will begin in a matter of moments. The rangers will whisper that they expect money to be in accounts by Friday.

By Monday, after no funding, this post will be blown up with those saying that Alberto is going to jail and the guy claiming that he has received money (although COR's stated reasons for delay would mean that nobody could have been funded). We can be comfored by the guys telling us to have faith.

COR is real and they will fund or they are crooks and are going to prison. Either way I can't wait for one of these things to happen!

by Abundanceoffrauds January 24, 2011 10:42 PM

- Fly

Vous êtes muets comme une carpe.

by DoOrDie January 24, 2011 10:51 PM

Abundanceoffrauds

You have those messages down pat...It just goes from one week to another, almost there, all the work is done,gave them all they requested, funding anytime now, we are waiting for the go sign, more information on funding will be coming out soon...and on and on and on. I think the latter...prison! by DoNotBelieve January 24, 2011 11:07 PM

They may as well through in, "MY DOG ATE MY CONTRACT"! by DoNotBelieve January 24, 2011 11:17 PM

Language writing skills by PhDs amd MDs may be just as bad, so I don't take that as a sign of intelligence. Generally, I look for performance: Even if it is slower than contracted, are they getting the job done? So far, no. Then, what is my next step? Even that has been discussed at length: Pull your money out, take other actions, like civil court, and/or report them to the authorities. If you choose to believe and leave your money in, then this blog will produce that evidence in short order: many people will get on here and shout, "YEA!" I am not expecting that anytime soon. by Waitedtoolong January 25, 2011 8:16 AM

I am not expecting any YEA'S at all. From the messages I read in the last couple of days from the person I know who invested...I think the whole thing is coming to an end. With the final excuse being...We aren't able to Fund your project! by DoNotBelieve January 25, 2011 9:05 AM

DoNotBeleive and Waitedtoolong

I'm going to give it to you good ol boys on the level. There has been several Investigations concerning Cor and the all mighty financial wiz Mr Colon. This Cor thing is a front and there are no vast amounts of monies awaiting to be given to the waiting Victims nothing noda zip. The game is over for them and it's too late to recover most of the money the collection actions are falling if not now you can be assured they will in the next few days also the civil actions and the IRS probes. You saw the begining of the end with the phone shut down and then quickly reset after it was disclosed also after the repeated request of proof of any one funded. We have made contact with all of the addresses listed on the so called contracts and what do you think there are all mail drop boxes the ones we looked at are full. oh we spoke with two ol boys with right nice shiny FBI badges and they too would like to have a word or two with these wall street wizards. Look the fact is there is no money to be gotten and there never was. If you have an interest get it back now . You see these master minds have made three fatal mistakes that will end it . I would love to share but i'm not showing my hand on this one the little chat with Alberto was just that to get him to show his hand and hot damn he fell into it like a water in a rain barrel. Good luck getting your money back fellers remember Call the Feds and don't forget to give them all your information name of Ranger any real contact any conversations with Mr Colon of anyone from Cor and the banking information. Do this TODAY or as soon as you read this.

by The fly January 25, 2011 2:15 PM

DoRoDie

Mr Colon Fish ain't so dumb boy they learn pretty qiuck not to fall for the same ol bait after awhile. So if I'm so dumb why is it I can see thur your line of crap like light thur rain drop. Son pay up and go to jail please don't do anything stupid like turning your wall ,ceiling or roof of your car into a moderm work of art (YOU KNOW USEING A HIGH SPEED LEAD PAINTING TOOL)Alberto AKA DoOrDie,State of Texas can you feel the walls closing in on you son can you hear the dawgs barking in the distance son circle the wagans boy this is the last round up yeeeee haaaaaaa
hot Damn boy don't you just love a good western by The fly January 25, 2011 3:19 PM

Waitedtoolong, I do understand your frustrations and I'm willing to share notes with you and work with you on finding out when COR is to jump start this funding again. I am doing this with several other partners that have reached to me from this blog as well. I do believe we (true partners) deserve better than what has been happening. My invitation still stands.

DoNotBelieve and the Syntax Challenged (The Fly), sorry Charlie(s)- I am just not feeling your motives. It is more to it than you say, but I hope that the "ones you know or represent" stick around long enough to get funded. I really do.

by DoOrDie January 25, 2011 5:52 PM

Hey berto tell these folks about another of your rip off companies Noble Group holding inc. which you are listed as the head of But wait a cotton pickin minute little buckaroos Noble Group holding inc,shares the same UPS box as Cor development Group Whats the odds dang wheres my lottery tickets when a fellar needs one. Oh berto (DoOrDie-State of Texas) you see Mr hot shot city slicker just cause I'm a cornbread and butter milk Texas good ol boy don't mean I can't spell son you see I got you to sing like a bull with it nuts in a vise moo moo buckaroo. Okay It's seems from our first reports that there are three agencies in place and the LEO's are on the case as well. Time is getting real short. Oh wait a sec all of berto's empire shares the same UPS drop box hold the phone there is another drop box in villa park the law got that one staked out as well and oh it seems they have pic's and video as well. I gota pop some corn for that showing by The fly January 25, 2011 6:02 PM

Hey Berto

Don't know this Charlie(s) fellar but if you just have to know you can call me Mil short for milfort. And the fact is still the same you got nothing jump start funding whats next son. First funding was just days away then it wasn't up to you berto now it's when Cor will be jump starting funding again.I have to say you can spin some whoppers even as everything is crashing all around you. I gota give you credit for trying . well it's getting late supper is just about ready and I have about a ton of paperwork to finish on you and your vast scam empire i'll try to get back later by The fly January 25, 2011 6:16 PM

When you think he can not be that dumb. HELLO! He does not know who Charlie is. He reminds me of Jack Black in Year One by Harold Ramis.

by DoOrDie January 25, 2011 6:29 PM

You guys really need to quit drinking before posting!

DoOrDie:

You mentioned previously that you had received funding from COR and are willing to share evidence of same. You've also noted that you are in contact with dozens of clients that have yet to be funded. You mentioned in your recent post that you want to find out when COR will jump start the funding again. This leads me to believe that you haven't received the subsequent funding as promised. In the event that you received the upfront (small) distribution of funds, do you wonder if it was a strategic move on COR's part as they knew that you could vouch for them? I would imagine that evidence of funding finally starting would cause all of those on the fence about sending in their initial deposit to quickly move.

Any idea on why it was just you? Any thoughts on why COR is behaving this way? Any suggestions other than "pray"? Was COR well intentioned about their method of raising money only to have fallen for a scammer themselves? What the heck is going on?

by Abundanceoffrauds January 25, 2011 7:08 PM

I will respond to a portion of your post and you can get the rest by email. "Jump start the funding again"; would mean it had started once and I along with a few others have received a disbursement before it was stopped. Now, I am willing to share my facts on that stoppage if you are willing to identify yourself when you email me.

COR and I do not see eye to eye on what I am doing, but I will not ever understand their extreme lack of professionalism. Plus, I am not breaking any SECURITY AGREEMENT given that they have been in breach for well over a year. I believe the Rangers are puppets and I do not communicate with them in any form. My stand that this is real is simply based on my ability to discover the truth.

by DoOrDie January 25, 2011 7:22 PM

I read the last couple of days messages...It is just more of the same. It is do much double talk...I know one thing, nobody involved with the group, of the person I know, has received Any Funding! That means None, Nada
Never! by DoNotBelieve January 25, 2011 8:42 PM

Amen by Cherub of Hope January 25, 2011 8:43 PM

By excepting that, what do you have? Have you asked for your money back? Are you going to look for answers here on this blog? What are you going to do?

I tell you what. Continue to complaint to each other. Keep talking it down, but sit on that fence and wait.

by DoOrDie January 25, 2011 9:00 PM

Opps, sounding like that fool. By accepting that... by DoOrDie January 25, 2011 9:04 PM

I have been trying to get the person I know to get his money back. I think he is going to try. I really don't think he will get it back...because I don't think there is any money there for him to get back! I am afraid it is too late! by DoNotBelieve January 25, 2011 11:08 PM

Good Afternoon, One day closer.... by Cherub of Hope January 26, 2011 11:53 AM

Well there are yet more very interested investagators poking around the Mr Colon's Office of his vast empire the Hoffman estates UPS store where Cor and about a dozen other so called companies Alberto is the Chairman or CEO of. Sorry I couldnt get back some very interesting developments canm up after supper about the guest of honor here Mr Colon which by the way is a front there is no Alberto Colon anywhere listed in the dozen or so fake companies berto has websites for but they do share a common thread the same UPS drop point. DoOrDie says he and a small band of partners have been funded well that was true but it wasn't the vast funding claimed it was the split on the money sent in by the good folk like the one DoNotBeleive has. And to address the jump start statement that to is a lie it's not hard to follow if you just walk back thur this blog you will see no indication of funding from Mr DoOrDie(berto) and then he gets so worked up with our little chat and the law sniffin around his drop boxes he forgets he sent out a e-mail to the Victims it's out of Alberto's hands as to funding. As I said earlier I have chased after better crooks then these road apple's and there all share one common thing (They all think there smarter then everyone else) berto after you tell as many lies as you have I can't blame you for getting em mixed up. No Funding folks No money NO more lies. I just finished up on a case that was something like this one Hey Hey hold it just one cotton pickin minute berto are you the same crooks that scamed those good folks out of 30 Million other there in new orleans by The fly January 26, 2011 4:10 PM

These criminal master minds in New Orleans Pulled this sweet insurance scam. they almost got pinched. They paid off on a few investigator claims 4.5 million I know of and then faded away. Hey berto is this you boy are you going to try to pull the same thing pay off the dogs to keep em at bay and then slip away like last time. Look all google Alberto B Colon and see all the so called companies he is either the CEO or Chair of. This ol boy would put the best of snake oil salesmen to shame with his line of BS and unbeleivable Claims to riches by The fly January 26, 2011 4:44 PM

Thank You by Cherub of Hope January 26, 2011 4:58 PM

The Fly has given us proof what happens when you don't take education seriously.

Thank you the Fly. Your writings is a good lesson tool for my 9 year old grandson.

by DoOrDie January 26, 2011 5:17 PM

Okay All here and of course Mr Colon (berto) Howdy boy. We have been in contact with the hoffman Estates Police Investigator a right pretty sounding young lady I much say so. Have now opened a full Investigation on Mr Colon and his empire of lies and diceit we all know em as Cor Development and Noble Group and the othe dozen or so fake scams he is running out of these mail boxes there as I said Google the 3 golf address in Hoffman Estates Il and you will find the Mighty berto is running Billion Dollar Companies out of Mail drop boxes I have heard of cutting down the ovewrhead But Damn boy. So much for humor The fact is this needs to end and end quick. Why am I warning you good folk well the last time I was in the lead to put away turds like these up standing folk we didn't think about the victims and thought we would recover the money before the rats could get away with it but we were too last I don't want to see that happen with this case. DEMAND YOU MONEY BACK TODAY YOU WANT IT IN YOUR BANK TOMORROW . Then get the wiring instructions from where the money was sent and CALL THE FBI give them your company information and have a copy of the so called contract and all of the e-mails you received your Rangers name and contact Number ready to give with them tell them this is Cor Development group that bush wacked you and you wish to join the growing list of Victims Do this today. If you don't get your money back in a matter of days pick up the phone call your local police and make a report then the FBI and then the Hoffman Estates Police Dept investigations Unit Don't Delay the Money you save is your own!!!!!!!!!!!! by The fly January 26, 2011 5:55 PM

Actually, regarding The Fly, it seems more like his constant alcohol intake that is causing his affliction.
Fly-Paper anyone? by State of Texas January 26, 2011 5:55 PM

Hey berto(DoOrDie) the fellars at the UPS Store wanted me to tell you your box is full ands you need to pick up your mail. As for my Grammer boy is that all you got where are the bolts lighting of funding where is the proof you have a dime other then the money you stole . Boy all you got is quick come backs and nothing else I cant spell well at lease you get my meaning across boy I gave something more then the likes of you. You see son the prrof in a lie is not if it is but to be able to not disprove it and so far boy you are coming up way short in that area. You give no proof here and you lied to those other Victims out there with delay BS From what I can see this blog has been going about 5 months and in that time funding was to take place at lease 5 times from the accounts I have seen here and the Victims e-mail reports. and Oh yeah this funding has been delayed for over 2 years with the same old lies and BS. Your granddaugther thats another lie you must have been poping out babies when you were 5 berto. To tell a lie to con someone or to get out of trouble or even the little woman at home is one thing and beleive me boy I love a good huntin or fishin whopper but to lie just to lie boy that just plain sad I gave you a little more credit then that berto you have just droped to a whole new level of worthless your 9 year old grand daugther OMG boy I looked over the 32 years in business lie you told but Damn boy by The fly January 26, 2011 6:15 PM

Howdy State Of Texas

Berto boy you are something else first it's you as DoOrDie then over the hill rides in State of Texas boy what ends does your delusional attempts to change the fact NOBODY HERE BELEIVES A WORD THAT YOU or your alter ego's type. Boy you got busted face it there is no money and just pointing out I am not the literary scholar don't mount up to hot steamin pile of cow crap. boy you lost and you are going to jail and they will take everything you have and from anyone close to you boy it's called RICO son you think Ross is lookin at some time boy they are still adding the counts damn it'a long list by The fly January 26, 2011 6:28 PM

I have been following this blog since it first started.
Our company is looking for capital from COR for our development corporation.

There are two facts that I know.
1. We have not been funded
2. We have NOT been hurt by Cor. by woodydevocorp January 26, 2011 9:55 PM

- State of Texas
I guarantee he is abstemious in his drinking. This is a clear case of abuse of the education system. He is definitely a poster child for illiteracy.

Not only can’t this untaught want to be investigator can’t write; he cannot comprehend what he reads. Now we find out math is a setback for him as well.

- The Fly
Imagine that I’m saying this real slow to you.
I…. have…. been…. in…. business…. for…. 32….years. I was 22 years old when I got started. My grandson (not granddaughter) dad is 31 years old. He is also my son.

How old am I?

by DoOrDie January 26, 2011 10:38 PM

Almost time to get funded.... by Cherub of Hope January 26, 2011 11:52 PM

Almost time to get funded.... by Cherub of Hope January 26, 2011 11:52 PM

It is almost time to get something...But the word isn't Funded! Cherub you are dreaming! by DoNotBelieve January 27, 2011 8:58 AM

It is much harder to see today if we are looking at yesterday. by Cherub of Hope January 27, 2011 10:03 AM

Cherub:

It's harder to believe in tomorrow when I've was lied to yesterday.

by Abundanceoffrauds January 27, 2011 11:04 AM

It's pretty much simple after that. When you cannot believe any longer, it is time to look somewhere else. I choose to look up.

by DoOrDie January 27, 2011 11:24 AM

Abundanceoffrauds:

Yes it is harder to believe, but the sun will come out tomorrow. We have already bet our bottom dollar. by Cherub of Hope January 27, 2011 3:48 PM

Hey berto(DoOrDie,State Mudd or whatever you want to call yourself)

Boy you said a mouthfull in those last lines you choose to look up.With all the BS you been putting out here the smell is even starting to get to you boy. But I'm proud of you boy keep your head up even in the glare of those TV lights when they walk you to the car going . At this point no one beleives you. Cor and the other Fake outfits claiming to have Billions to give and services up the wazu are all neatly tucked in a little ol Mail box at the UPS center in Hoffman Estates. Now you tell us berto how a billion dollar operation is run from such a place ????????. Everytime I or for that matter anyone other then you posing as some one else ask for the tinest bit of proof you can't come up with jack or you fall back on double talk and snapy replies. Let me share this with you son. You(Cor.Noble and the other web scams with the name Colon on it ) is drawing more attention then a one legged whore at a police convention. Boy you got folks all over the world looking to chat with you. And that terrorist thing you got going has gotten the attention of a for agencies with just letter for names and I sure as hell don't mean the ones you think. DoNotBeleive it's just about over with these ol boys i see they have locked two or three of the IP Addresses they use just waiting for them to use em again. this is old intel so it ain't like i'm warning em. we know they operate from laptops at wifi spots and there is some other very interesting information we have and have shared it with the Hoffman Estates Police. Oh News Flash we found a Alberto B. Colon in Illinois and it ain't berto. We have checked with every financialAgency that there is that would have the sacks to move the type of money These Yahoo's claim to have and No one has heard of them. It's a very small world that these movers and shakers play in and Alberto (berto) Colon sure as heck ain't one of them. by The fly January 27, 2011 4:13 PM

Berto (doOrDie)

It don't matter if I can't spell or add or walk and chew gum the fact is your a ball face lair boy. in business for 32 years where boy what business can we look at that has or had that you had your hands in I mean the legal ones boy you can't there ain't any! Cause we all sure as hell know about all your illegal ones just type in Alberto B. Colon and the flood of businesses roll down like water off a ducks back none of which are worth nothin. I know three things to be true boy.

1. The FBI is looking for ya and your Scams Boy.

2. There ain't a financial source in the world that has heard of You or Cor.

3. You can't show proof of jack you have said and your lies are starting to run together boy.

So say what you want about me but i'm not the one the Feds the local Cops the investigators and the USPS plus the jews are looking for and boy they don't work the way we do here in America they just shoot your ass. by The fly January 27, 2011 4:28 PM

Berto

Were burnin day light he boy where's the money. why has cor not come over the hill six shooters blastin flag wavin and saved the day. Where is all of these Billions of Dollars. Oh I was mistaken it's not Billions of Dollars You and Cor are providing the project victims it's Billions of lies. Dang glad i got it right boy you know us poster kids . You did get me to thinkin about all the honey wagans of crap you were spillin out of your mouth. The bit about your age was abit strange your grandsons dad is also your son ???? whatever at this point whetever you say is a lie so yeah right. by The fly January 27, 2011 4:50 PM

Will someone get a can of Raid for this fly.

He's back in his moms outhouse making noise again.

by DoOrDie January 27, 2011 5:00 PM

- The Fly

Goodness! I just decoded some of this crap. You really don't know you're dumb. I am sorry, I have never called another person dumb in my life, but this is boarder line retarded.

I take everything back I ever thought about Sarah Palin. You got her beat.

by DoOrDie January 27, 2011 5:11 PM

Berto

hey there boy would a thought you would be locked up by now boy . just pullin your leg but that time is really coming son. I like the way you use the word crap you see boy flies don't come out lessen they smell something dying dead or rottin and son you have hit all those marks. The noise you hear is the law closing in on you boy as for me. There ain't one thing i have said here you can not disprove and you sure as hell can't proof any of that shavel load of crap your trying to spread. No one beleives a word you say DoOrDie(berto) There is no money and never will be you spent most of it. Oh read your little line in the so called food chain complaint line and by the way the site was created by Cor AKA you berto. You know it never fails the crooks are always the first to shout out about there rights. Well berto where's your big high and mighty fancy legal team. The all and powerful Art Rivera that we can't seem to find and the GodMother of Cor the Cosigner of the midwest.As for Ms palin hell boy you and her are right out of the same shute you both promise the world and don't know what the hell your saying just that your gettin paid but in the defense of and thats former Gov. Palin she tells ya up front shes gettin paid to fan the fire your just crapin words that don't do nothing.Stand up be a man for a micro second and take your medicine jail ain't so bad boy pay off those claims and whats left to your victims and relax there for the next life time. Don't you just love it yall I give facts and berto is the comic releif by The fly January 27, 2011 5:38 PM

Hey berto

Maybe we can get a act together you from jail and me from my horse. You know boy one of them specials. I lessen to the Whoppers you tell here and those all so snapy replies . my wife and a few ol boys at the office here got a kick out of a few of em boy. I see you have a talent that might keep your butt safe for awhile in jail boy just keep em laffin but that can only work so long. I would think we will say a prayer for ya boy it is the christian thing to do. Okay Mr DoOrDie grammer teacher go for it Hey thats another job for you in jail you can help correct the appeal documents of the other inmates there. You see boy i'm not just here to get you to turn yourself in I'm trying to help you in your next job in jail. Have you been to your mail box lately berto have you cleared those phone lines yet berto for that matter have you even answered the phones. has anyone gotten thur to the All and Powerful Wiz Alberto (berto) Colon on the phone or returned a real e-mail ????? let me know by The fly January 27, 2011 5:50 PM

Wow! Unbelieveable!

by DoOrDie January 27, 2011 6:06 PM

Hey berto

When is the next line of horse crap coming out about the next delay in funding and that the jump start have to be jump started and it's not up to you berto but the money faries. You know berto those UKN money mogo's that have acres of money stacked 20 hands high. Berto Tell em about all those fancy things you have spent there intake fee on boy tell em how your living boy. Then go home take a good long look boy go out and have a high ol time cause it's all going to be taken away berto RICO gona get it all. I'll have the growing list of charges that you will be lookin at boy. Come on back berto I need one more of your quick come backs before I call it a day. Oh that list is longer then that great wall Where ya at boy come on one for the road son don't let me down berto Oh (DoOrDie) there are still some folks out there that don't know your Al-bert-toe Co-loan (ALBERTO B. COLON)of Cor and other Mega Companies by The fly January 27, 2011 6:13 PM

Yeah there you are boy I knew you wouldnt let me down I got real money riding on you boy we got us a pool as to the day and time they gona lock you up boy. Any body out there wanta buy a space for a saw buck . I got 5 by The fly January 27, 2011 6:17 PM

What is it? Did Alberto tease you as a kid about the helmet you wore and the little yellow bus you took to school? Why is there so much hatred? Were you on a deal and your clients decided not to wait any longer or got booted? Clearly you are not involved, because you have yet to mention any of the new development in the past couple of days.

Hang in there. Someone will pay for your efforts soon, I guess.

by DoOrDie January 27, 2011 6:34 PM

The only new developement is...There is too much information getting out and Cor is going to a different way of getting out information...Just another delay tactic...Make sure you can download all this... by DoNotBelieve January 27, 2011 7:10 PM

UPDATE: Once again funding is not up to Alberto...He is waiting for word to release...Another week going by, they are really good at this. They should go into politics! by DoNotBelieve January 27, 2011 7:15 PM

- DoNotBelieve

How is the weather there in Arizona?

by DoOrDie January 27, 2011 7:27 PM

...now THAT's funny! by State of Texas January 27, 2011 8:51 PM

Many are called ; Few are chosen.... by Cherub of Hope January 27, 2011 10:18 PM

- Cherub of Hope

Are you recruiting for the Marines. What's your Angle?

by DoOrDie January 27, 2011 10:32 PM

Don't have any idea how weather is in Arizona, why would you ask? How is it? I assume quite nice!

Cherub sounds like a Priest! by DoNotBelieve January 27, 2011 11:04 PM

State of Texas

What id so funny? I don't get it! by DoNotBelieve January 27, 2011 11:16 PM

Fingers going to fast...You know I meant is not id! by DoNotBelieve January 27, 2011 11:20 PM

You must believe... DoOrDie...that is the angle...( Matthew 22:14 "Many are called , Few are chosen") by Cherub of Hope January 28, 2011 1:52 AM

- Cherub of Hope

The story about the Banquet.....

I would like to add this verse: "Then he said to his servants, The wedding banquet is ready, but those I invited did not deserve to come." -Matthew 22:8

Let also break it down for a couple of them.
servants = Rangers
wedding banquet = Funding
those invited = YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE

by DoOrDie January 28, 2011 7:30 AM

You guys are really going overboard now...Quoting the Bible...You think that is going to help...Maybe you should look up the verse on theives! Or Commandments like, "Thou Shalt Not Steal"! by DoNotBelieve January 28, 2011 9:04 AM

Thank You DoOrDie... by Cherub of Hope January 28, 2011 9:32 AM

No..DoNotBelieve; We believe the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit will... It's bigger than all of us... We will soon see... New Testament,,, Theives are forgiven. by Cherub of Hope January 28, 2011 9:36 AM

So you admit you are Thieves! You are right God is the judge...But I would rather be on the good side of the judging when it comes!
I believe in the Father, Son and Holy Spirit also, but I also believe in "Thou Shalt Not Steal". Or for that matter Lie! by DoNotBelieve January 28, 2011 9:51 AM

It’s amazing that this character would say that COR stole when the person that “he is close to” is actually the partner and they HAVE NOT requested their money back. How can you steal something when all you have to do is request it back. Plus, it is none of DoNotBelieve’s business or is it. DaDaDaDahhhhhh.... THE MYSTERY UNFOLDS. DoNotBelieve is a partner that is straddling the fence. He will not admit to it, because he has gone too far with his charade, but it has been identified. I hope he is not surprise when “the person he is close to” only get his administration fee back.

by DoOrDie January 28, 2011 10:16 AM

Couple of thoughts:

If you want to know how the weather is in areas where people have been waiting for COR to perform, here is a link - Click Here . You can find out the weather in the entire country as I suspect you'll find people everywhere who are still waiting for funding that may never come.

Fly - I would hope that this site is one where people can learn more about other's experiences with COR before they decide to interact with them. I only wish that this information was here 18 months ago. Your ramblings make it hard to take the doubters seriously. Please make your point once. I don't like to return to this site now that I have to wade through so much of the nonsense.

Cherub - Proverbs 18:2 reads "A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion."

I'm uncomfortable with the analogies of COR or Alberto to Jesus at the last supper. Let's try to stick to the facts.

If DoNotBelieve is a partner, that doesn't speak well for the program now does it? A partner is someone who is supposedly kept informed by COR with timely and truthful information. As you have said, COR is operating unprofessionally. Can you blame a person for expressing doubt? I can't.

There was a post a couple of days ago that said that the poster's company had invested with COR, COR hasn't funded, and that the company hasn't been harmed. That person has a great perspective. There are others who have been harmed by the considerable delays. There will be both sides of the issue and neither should be discounted.

When COR funds their commitments, you will have plenty of cheerleaders. Until they meet their commitments, they can and should expect the naysayers. by Abundanceoffrauds January 28, 2011 11:12 AM

Well stated.

As far as the weather, I’m very astute when it comes down to finding it online. The reason behind it; only the person that it was intended for knows what I’m talking about.

I have said it before, I do not blame anyone for sharing their frustrations, but what I DO NOT LIKE is the clowns that take it too far. I have a project as well with COR and I to have had my doubts, but there is a better way to do it. The way these characters choose to do it can cause more damage to ones project than COR can ever do. When will one take responsibility for themselves? If you have doubts or believe they are a fraud, move on. Get your money back or file charges. It’s that simple. I personally believe and I have one hundred thousand reasons to do so and according to the emails that I have been getting over the past couple of weeks, many others believe as well.

The bottom-line is, DoNotBeleive and my goodness, The Fly are jokes. You, I respect and I’m all for the facts if it’s presented in a way that does not harm others. Other than that, I will be here in effort to kill Mr. Pitchfolk’s disciples every chance I get.

by DoOrDie January 28, 2011 11:57 AM

Couple of thoughts on my end.

I have no idea what this Arizona weather thing has to do with me? I guess you think I am in Arizona...So much for your investigative skills!

I agree with Abundanceoffrauds...People have been harmed by all the so called delays. Just read the messages...How can you believe that double talk?!

I am not a Partner on the fence...I am trying desperately to convince the person I know to pull out...I think I am close.

I AM NOT A JOKE and I AM NOT A FOOL!
I am an honest person trying to help someone I know!

by DoNotBelieve January 28, 2011 1:42 PM

Ok.

by DoOrDie January 28, 2011 1:44 PM

For Tim Bieser

You had a list of names on your December 10, 2010 message. I now see three of those names as some of COR's
rising stars. Interesting...Don't you think?! by DoNotBelieve January 28, 2011 1:57 PM

Well Howdy boys

Hey berto you talking to yourself again boy you are some peice of work. Hey help me out with this one berto I have a most interesting chat with some suits from the FTC you know them don't you boy well it's seems they have never heard of Cor or Alberto B Colon. I find that very interesting to learn that in order to come any where near the Billions of funds you are claiming to have or will have or whatever lie you are going to tell today . First you have to be registered and boy they looked high and low long and hard and nothing. I asked you time after time to put up or shut up and seeing as you never put up and we sure as tooting know you can't shut up .let me share a few more truths with all the readers out there and of course you berto and all of your AKA's

1. Fact There is Not sign or listing in any of the markets or banking circles showing Cor or Alberto (berto) Colon)
2. The IRS has no EIN for Cor Development Group.

3. There is No listing or registration with the state of Illinois.

4. There are at this point in time 6 on going investigations looking into Cor and the other scams listed under Mr Alberto (berto) Colon

So berto and all of the AK's you go under here and in the real world your lies are impressively sad and predicable. You have nothing but double talk and quotes from the bible or posing as another blogger here to make snapy replies.

DoNotbeleive the list you speak of is growing with the passing of each day.

Berto explain to all of us here that no one in the banking or trading world has ever heard of you and your band-o-crooks. Ooops that's it cause your all crooks and no matter how you try to twist and turn boy your like a catfish on steel hook and 30 pound test line you can go deep but in the end your sorry ass comes to the surface defeated and belly up by The fly January 28, 2011 3:50 PM

Hey Berto

can you hear em coming boy can you hear the dogs barking. My grandson who will be 9 end of this year likes to hear that song from cops show everytime we snag a dirtbag like you so listen out for the song boy. Me i'm right fond of the Lone Ranger Theme myself but that was a different time . One I am very sure you have no clue about. In business for 32 years I laughed so hard at that lie I almost spilled my coffee. by The fly January 28, 2011 3:59 PM

Ok the stage is set the band is paid and the players are all in attendance. The time for (Berto) is coming near. I surly hope most of you were able to get your money back and to make those calls to cover your own backs. If there are any so called Rangers out there that are reading this . My suggestion is to go to the police tell them ol boys all you know and if you havent taken a dime just give your statement and chalk it all up to a bad nightmare get on with your life and if you ever have another dirtbag the likes of this one (berto) come your way just say thank ya kindly and ride off the other way hard and fast by The fly January 28, 2011 4:13 PM

Berto

Hey boy where ya at ??? come on boy talk me son give this ol country boy a laugh or two with those witty come backs. What wifi spot are you at now boy. I hope they got good coffee boy. I sure would hate to know your sitting there siping bad coffee. Oh Question boy have you heard any of them helicopers flying around lately boy you know the ones that seem to just hang there for awhile and circle then poof they up and disappear like a fart in the wind. only to be replaced with that dark van ???????? Come on berto where ya at boy I got real money riding on you boy don't let me down son by The fly January 28, 2011 4:38 PM

Hey Berto

I know all the new developments. Would you like me to share them with you and all of those out there. Okay boy here goes.

THERE ARE NO NEW DEVELOPMENTS IT'S STILL THE SAME NO MONEY NO FUNDING NO DATE FOR FUNDING AND NO CHANCE OF FUNDING. THE SAME OL PILE OF HORSE CRAP DIFFERENT STALL. Boy you can't even come up with a new lie you disappoint me boy a master Crook like yourself should have em lined up like crackers in a box boy. Rollin Rollin Rollin keep those doggies moving tho the streams are swollen raw hide, come on boy you know the rest boy join son. Hot Damn boy your funnier than a two headed snake chasing a bunch of mice.

There are many Different types of liars.

The little white liar

The get or of trouble liar

The forgetful liar

The Ball face liar

The God D@#N liar

The Lieing thur the cracks in your teeth liar

But Boy you have reached a whole new level of liar

The WTF next liar by The fly January 28, 2011 5:04 PM

Folks

I have just learned berto has a medical problem. Yes it's true it seems he craps and talks out of his mouth at the same time. And no tic tac's won't help. Oh tidy bowlman where are you ?????????????????????

Come on out berto and play where are those lighting fast come backs boy. come on boy whip out the bible boy. Thats another sign the end is near your trying to get close to god well thats a good thing boy be he ain't gona be able to get you out of this one. just remember to pray while your in jail and whatever you do boy DON'T forget my suggestion (SOAP ON A ROPE) that ain't no joke boy. by The fly January 28, 2011 5:21 PM

If this site has a moderator, please remove the fly. There are serious people here who are talking about their projects. He has made terrorist aqusations, which are absourd and then constantly treating this blog as a joke. Which it is becoming more and more each day. by mdudd January 28, 2011 5:45 PM

Hey Berto

Son you snagged yourself in another pile of your own crap boy. If we are to beleive you are a project partner/victim which is a lie in it's self one thing you forgot the lie you told here on jan 22 at 6pm when you said YOU WERE A PAID PROJECT PARTNER can you lie your way out of that little snafu ?? And yet there has been NO funding for the past 2 years How is it you are the only one that has amazingly been funded and yet all the other victims are receiving delays and it's not up to you (berto) e-mails wiggle your way out of that one son and as for reasonable well son I don't see a thing you have proven here and yet I have given out more information on you and Cor then you have shared with your other victims in the 2 years you have been keeping this scam alive by The fly January 28, 2011 5:47 PM

Where are these few other's that have been funded before funding stoped why aren't they here or out there shouting to the high hills how Cor funded them and that Alberto is there savior. Cause there ain't none and there never will be. Hey there Berto Thanks son you restored my faith in you boy I thought I was gona miss out on the bet today mdudd (berto) by The fly January 28, 2011 5:55 PM

Hey mdudd(berto)

Boy there ain't nothing I've said here that ain't the truth and there ain't a bit of truth that you or any of your other AK's have stated to hold water. I ask you son just show me or any one here just the smallest of proof or truth as to your lies and the crap you send out as e-mails to those victims you call project partners. If you can do that boy I will gladly leave .Just hold a press confence and announce to the whole world Cor and you (berto are legit. now the ball is in your end of the pasture boy fish or cut bait son by The fly January 28, 2011 6:01 PM

- mdudd

I agree. This person is off their rocker. You would think after working the front doors at WalMart all day he or she would feel a sense of accomplishment.

A little to fixated on me, wouldn't you agree?

by DoOrDie January 28, 2011 6:03 PM

Just in case you missed it in my earlier post Mr. Fly:

"Fly - I would hope that this site is one where people can learn more about other's experiences with COR before they decide to interact with them. I only wish that this information was here 18 months ago. Your ramblings make it hard to take the doubters seriously. Please make your point once. I don't like to return to this site now that I have to wade through so much of the nonsense."

Seriously, find a better way to pump up the ratings on the site than what you've thus far attempted. You are driving people away and I suspect that your actions are counterproductive to your cause.

by Abundanceoffrauds January 28, 2011 6:25 PM

If anything TF said was true, he wouldn't be on this site giving COR notice of it. He's just simple minded. His lies are greater than his accused could ever be. TF is simply the fool who's money already parted. He's just looking for someone else to blame. Small minds think small. by State of Texas January 28, 2011 8:05 PM

DoOrDie,

I think the fly, either is a former project partner(heaven forbid), a person who had their project rejected, or works for this site ON and is driving their advertising up with all of the hits here. If he is not kicked off the site, than we may have our answer (works for ON). I find some of his comments offensive (just in the way he talks)using Boy and Son. It is just incorrect. If you feel the same way, you can go to the top of this blog and file a complaint. Though we all may have our differences about the funding, the fly behavior is ruining this blog and we need to deal with it.....

by mdudd January 28, 2011 8:31 PM

- mdudd

You are absolutely on point. Let's do it. Hopefully others will follow (believers and known believers) and then we can dialog like professionals.

It is also hoped that COR put an end to all this as well.

by DoOrDie January 28, 2011 10:27 PM

Opps. (believers and non-believers)

by DoOrDie January 28, 2011 11:47 PM

Looks like TF - the country bumpkin - is gone. We can hope. So meanwhile anyone up for some intelligent discussion?
Here is my assessment:
It's never been about whether COR has money. They "represent" money the best that I can tell. (Which doesn't require them to be registered with anyone) They also do not tell that money when to be released... only the actual possessors of the money will decide that. The resident bumpkin thinks he's a researcher. If he had the brains to research in the correct direction, he would discover what I know. There is about 15 trillion in investment money sitting on the sidelines right now. Why? The holders of the money don't trust the economy or the "learn as we go" administration in the White House. And have you been watching Gold? Why would they take it out of gold since it has been climbing unabated since Nov of 08? Look at a five-year gold chart. Who knows when it will stop. But when it does, they have to be prepared to put that money to work. They can't wait to start looking for places to put the money when gold starts dropping. Those investments must be in place. Brokers find the start-ups that need money AND they find the investors.
Gold starts to drop, they say "we're about to fund". Gold starts climbing again, and all is quiet. It's not rocket science. (except to TF of course)
Now look at the closing price of gold on Oct 19, 2010. that is the bottom that has to be broken for gold to start dropping. $1,326.34/oz. That bottom has been tested only 2 or 3 times since it hit the current highs and it has failed to break through each time.
That is, until Jan 27th & 28th when it broke through the bottom 2 days in a row. BUT, right now it is sitting a few dollars above the bottom.
SO... we sit and wait. and watch.
Here's one thing I know: You'll never be one of the "Big Boys" until you learn to think like them. That leaves TF and those like him out of the big boy game permanently.
And here's another thing I know: A broker's job isn't as much about matching VC money with Start-ups, as it is about running interference between the "Haves" and the "Wanna-haves". The Haves will never deal directly with the Wanna-haves. If they did, they would have to put up with phone calls night and day from the kooks like TF, and the impatient like DNB who tend to shoot themselves in the foot constantly. Can you imagine those kinds of phone calls coming in constantly to the "glass towers"? THINK people!
And for the record; I am not Alberto, not do I represent or even know anyone at COR. Nor would I want to - what a tough job. AND I am not a "Project" or "Ranger".
I'm just a researcher. I read a lot. Therefore I know a lot.
"Let those who have ears..."

by State of Texas January 29, 2011 2:34 PM

Couple things for SOT...
I am not impatient because I have no money invested. I am a concerned friend.
If you have done so much research...Then tell us all how Alberto has 50 million dollars in penalties! What are the penalities? How is he paying for them, and with who's money are they being paid? Love to know those answers! by DoNotBelieve January 29, 2011 2:49 PM

I have perfectly described you above. Therefore if you think that is an important question to answer, go find the answer yourself. YOU think it's a smoking-gun. I think it's a rabbit-trail. So hop along. by State of Texas January 29, 2011 2:53 PM

Got damn! I like you State of Texas.

- DoNotBelieve

I would love to see the $50M in penalities claim. Don't just throw it out there, show it out there, "concerned friend".

by DoOrDie January 29, 2011 3:15 PM

Thank you for the compliment. And please watch your language. We don't need you getting kicked off too. ;-)

by State of Texas January 29, 2011 4:09 PM

Howdy Boys

I'm Back I see Al-bert-toe has been doing his sybil act again. All that BS about not having to be registered in order to move the type of money he is claiming is just pure Bull. Boy I live down here in texas where more money changes hands every day then grass gwows in a field and let me tell you Mr. Some body knows every where penny that does and where it comes from and who it's going to. Now lets say all of the crap you say is so in some other world. Ok if you and your so called hand full of project partners were funded you would have plastered this site with the who and when's and why didn't you inform the other project partners what they don't count. For 2 years you have been claiming everything under the sun but yet a small band of brave true beleivers were able to be funded over the others I would just like to know how that is so. You really think the real people out here beleive a word you or whatever other screen name you login with beleive a word you post.And I have another question that has been puzzling me if you are a project partner why are other project partners e-mailing you and what can you tell then if you are just who you say you are ? Do you control Alberto if we are to beleive you are not Al-bert-toe and al of the other comic troop that seem to have all of this information far more they the mear project partner/victim has by The fly January 29, 2011 4:36 PM

DoNotBeleive

At last count it was holding at 320 Million in Civil suits and over 19 Million in collections. and the list seems to be growing by The fly January 29, 2011 4:39 PM

Well, it seems the door to the outhouse just come open. by State of Texas January 29, 2011 4:43 PM

DOD

The info on the penalities came from someone at COR! I cannot give his name as I was told in confidence!

by DoNotBelieve January 29, 2011 4:58 PM

Well nonsense now thats a subject I am well studied on I point out to you the nonsense that you Al-bert-toe have been pushing off on the folks you have robed. I would like to point out the nonsense you pass off as e-mails claiming everything from the IRS to the second coming as a excuse and then you have the nerve to tell us that you and some small band of true beleivers are the only ones that have been funded you give a date of this so called passing of funds and yet all the other Project partners/victims get nothing but the same old song and dance. I would like to point out to you that the Feds the local police and a army of collection and investigation agencies are all looking for you. so call me what you wish say what you want but at the end of the day your still a lying theift and will go to jail for a very long time. I don't speak ill of most folks no mader where there from or who they are but I have very little time for dirtbags the likes of you boy No sir none at all. I read all of your snapy replies from all of the screen names you write under and you have yet to give a bit of proof or truth just more double talk . Why is it Al-bert-toe the only one's out there don't like my growing list of truths about you and your empire of lies and scams is non other then you go figure ????? by The fly January 29, 2011 4:59 PM

The information I have shared here with you all comes directly from Federal weekly reports and from our Collection and investigation network. We work closely with leo's and there departments in largers cases like this one. The fact the companies Mr Colon have posted on the web are all from 2 UPS Boxes. Were you able to get your friend to demand there money back time has run out by The fly January 29, 2011 5:08 PM

I have been following this blog, and this is my conclusion:

These "Rangers" - Forest Rangers that is, at COR serve one purpose and one purpose only and that is to - Lead the project partners around the bush. by summerheat January 29, 2011 6:28 PM

This whole scheme put the phase "Coming out off the Wood work" on a whole new level

lol

by summerheat January 29, 2011 6:42 PM

Howdy Yall

Well the So called rangers are unsuspecting dupps unaware of the scam they are playing a role in for the most part. There are however those that are in on the real and when you see the (Funding has started or Funding will start soon BS) is Code for the pay out to the Crooks. But I once again beg those out there that are (LOL) Rangwers Please pick up the phone and call your local police or FBI and tell em your horror story about Cor and avoid real jail time. by The fly January 29, 2011 7:23 PM

Ooops typo

(In on the real deal) by The fly January 29, 2011 7:27 PM

Hey State of Texas

Damn boy you sure do know alot. Like the fact Al-bert-toe is spose to be a so called Gold trader if not why would you bring up gold. Boy the more you try to dig your way out the deeper you go boy just tell these folks out there your using the hard earned money of the Victims to trade gold or whatever and have No intentions of giving back a dime unless of course they DEMAND THERE money back or call the law. I haven't seen you on the blog before so how would you know all this about Cor if your just lookin thur the window. You gave a great little speach it sounded like that drug induced E-mail I read from you last christmas when you were Al-bert-toe. I just can't help but see your handy work in a few screen names here like DoOrDie,mdudd and Abundanceoffraud You are remarkable Al-bert-toe I have to give you that much. But you wouldn't be the smooth talking crook that you are if you weren't Close but no Ceg-gar boy by The fly January 29, 2011 7:53 PM

Fly -

Read my post on 9/8 and tell me why you think I'm Alberto. Sit down before you cause every serious person to ignore the truths posted on this site.

by Abundanceoffrauds January 29, 2011 8:33 PM

- State of Texas

Looks like WalMart first shift gets off at 3pm and the chicken truck gets him home by 3:30. (Can you imagine he said he had a typo? LMAO!)

Everyone, please try to ignore the sidshow.

- DoNotBelieve

If you can not show it, don't throw it. As far as I'm concern your reason for being here is no better than the Deptra.

by DoOrDie January 29, 2011 9:28 PM

Opps typo!

(Diptra) LMAO again!

by DoOrDie January 29, 2011 9:30 PM

Never said Alberto is a gold trader TF. Good Lord you can't even read. wow. You take stupid to a whole new level. by State of Texas January 29, 2011 9:34 PM

- State of Texas

I could have told you that.

by DoOrDie January 30, 2011 12:08 AM

DOD
You haven't shown anything...I can't betray my confidence...You know it's true if you are as close to the situation as you say you are. by DoNotBelieve January 30, 2011 12:13 AM

- DNB

Sorry, if I knew of anything like that, I would surely present it.

For a person that has no invested interest in this process, you sure do get around. You are a concern friend to a Partner and now you have someone on the inside of COR. Wow! Why can you not convince "your friend" to pull out? Don't tell me, because it's bull-excrement.

Have "your friend" email me, I'll help him get his money back.

by DoOrDie January 30, 2011 12:48 AM

DOD

I did not say I had somebody on the inside of COR. I said,"The information came from somebody at COR". I do not know him/her personally.

Convincing people to do things which you think are in their best interest, is not always easy. Especially when they are so desperate for money! by DoNotBelieve January 30, 2011 8:44 AM

Time to Pray by Cherub of Hope January 30, 2011 10:57 AM

DNB,

So it is not creditable, unless there is proof.
Right now it is just more hearsay. more bogus info.
Penalties for what and who does he of it too?

Please just stick to the facts.
1) The fact is that you are concerned for a "friend".
2) You are desperatley trying to get him to pull his money out.
3) your "friend is desperate".
4) He does not want to listen to you.
5) You think he will not get his money back.
6) Your friend has not asked for the money back.
7) Your friend is haunting his ranger ever day (like that is going to change anything).
8) Ranger is getting tired of him and his crying.
9) Your friend is confused because the ranger is telling him everthing is ok and you are telling him to get out.

Maybe you need to encourage and be suportive of your friend instead of a doubter. That may get him to listen.
Or maybe you should have him talk with the Fly, he seems like a really intelligent individual. He can guide you and your "friend" to the promise land.

by mdudd January 30, 2011 11:37 AM

mdudd

I would say the above comments from you are pretty accurate.
The only point not accurate is...The information about the penalities is creditable...It came directly from a COR insider, it is not bogus. I also would like to know penalties for what and to whom. That I do not know.

I am encouraging my friend...to get his money out before it's too late, if it's not too late already! He is letting his ego and desperation get in the way of sound business sense. Other business associates advised him not to get involved with COR in the first place, but he didn't listen. These guys are quite savy businessmen and advised against COR but to no availe. I can only do so much! by DoNotBelieve January 30, 2011 12:22 PM

Where is the info on penalties?
Did you talk to this COR insider?

Please show all of us the new info. Seems wierd that you have this info but no one else has heard of this. by mdudd January 30, 2011 2:35 PM

It's beyond wierd mdudd. His entire reason for being here is wierd and that other fool as well.

by DoOrDie January 30, 2011 3:01 PM

howdy yall

Well berto and all of your other Screen names Boy it seems like your getting as worried as a skiny dipper in a pond fulll of snappin turtles boy. Berto you know about all of the investigations you have over your head and why havent you gone to your UPS Box Boy it's full. the only reason I like to use the Texas humor is to ease the pain you have caused so many good folks out there. And as to my intellectual aptitude Boy I was 3ed in my class at Texas State with a double doctorate one in criminal law and the other in Business.I had my own Business when you were just able to understand Saturday morning cartoons. DON"T LET THE GOOD OL BOY ACT FOOL YOU BOY. I may talk like this but I sure as rain got your number boy and the truth is just that no matter how you try to cover it with crap Boy your going to jail and you know it as well. Nothing you have said here has amounted to a hill of beans. You got No Proof other then your one heck of a liar and theift. So bring on the other Expert Co-signers you claim not to be here and Show PROOF !!!!! by The fly January 30, 2011 3:46 PM

Hey Al-Bert-Toe

And all your other screen names here why don't you share with the good folk here about all the interest that you have drawn son. Why don't you tell us why you won't go to your mail box in Hoffman Estates UPS Store you know where you run your vast empire out of. Hot damn the finacial Wiz Kid of them all. I have yet to hear how that good ol boy from here knows so much about you Berto and yet not be you Damn boy looks like you just got (Shout stomped) and if'in you are from here boy your sure as tootin to know what that means boy. So much for that. Now back to the topic at hand here this blog has been going for some time now and yet there has been No funding according to the well enformed bystanders and former Project partners/Victims. There even seems to be a blogger that has named names and outlinded the horrors of this ever growing Scam plus the mention of law suits and collections and other issues mounting well in to the hunderds of Millions of dollars all of which can be proven and verified and yet Al-bert-toe you and your host of other screen names here say nay?? I find it hard to choke down the lines you give here and the almost psychic ability of that good ol boy from here that knows your whole game plan and whats up WOW A-MAGING berto by The fly January 30, 2011 5:24 PM

Thats (Shute stomped) I was typing to fast boy you know that high speed hunt and peck (LOL) by The fly January 30, 2011 5:32 PM

Hey bert-toe

With the amount of crap you and your other named screen names here are saying and claiming and shavelin out I bet you could single handedly clean out a stable in nothing flat. boy I'm bettin on you son .don't let me down I got real money on you bert-toe. hey y'all there's about 10 squares left on the Al-bert-toe/Cor round up in the hoosegow pool!! Come on y'all it's just a saw buck the pot is growing. It won't get all your money back but you could have a gooooood steak dinner out of it and I ain't talkin bout those yankee steak dinner I'm talkin bout the ones within all the trimin's So much you think they cooked the whole dang hurd by The fly January 30, 2011 5:48 PM

MDUDD,DOD

I am not weird! I can't say anymore or it may get someone in trouble. The information came directly from a COR insider. So if you don't know about it, I guess you aren't as close or as well informed as you say! by DoNotBelieve January 30, 2011 5:58 PM

Howdy DoNotBeleive

Don't let that bush wacker pull your leg. there all the same person none other then (AL-BERT-TOE) and as for the 50 Million I can confirm over 10 million in Collections and 320 Million in Civil suits. just trackin that ol boy has been a chore but we got that sum bith now. at this point in the chase it's a fact that your partners money is no more but. there has been alot of banking activity with Mr berto of late. Hang in there partner this round up is coming to a end soon thats for sure by The fly January 30, 2011 6:29 PM

Hey bert-toe

Hey boy just found two more chat boxes your in boy. Boy I have heard some big talk but once again you go straght to the front of the class with that load of manure your spreading. Boy I gota hand it to you with that last pass you were hoping for a bumper crop.But oops your going to jail before you get a chance to rotate the back 40 on those ripe victims by The fly January 30, 2011 6:54 PM

DNB,

I am not calling you wierd. I am saying the situation is wierd. You are not directly involved, but you have this info. You will not share your source, cause you are afraid of getting your COR source in trouble. Why would you care about your COR source since you are not involved?
Again, who do they owe the money to?
Who is your source?
Where is the info backing this up?
This is just bad investigative reporting. Too much unsupported info.

Just for laughs, lets say it is true. Is your friend going to get his money out?
What do you have to gain from this?
Please also explain, what is a COR Insider?

by mdudd January 30, 2011 7:40 PM

Hey DoNotBeleive

Did you notice when DoOrDie is on all of the other alter egos of Al-bert-toe show up as well and the body of there lies seem to come from the same mind set as if Al-bert-toe is channeling his superior will to those so called others that claim not to be Al-bert-toe. Y'all take care now you hear by The fly January 30, 2011 8:05 PM

-DoNotBelieve

I'm informed enough when it comes to the funding and I have no problem sharing what I know with your "close friend" since he's still holding on. The wierd thing is, if what you say is true, you only could have gotten it from your so called, "close friend". What is taking him so long to pull out with such vital information coming from inside? - I remember; it's denial.

So you know, I have a contact on the inside at WalMart and I heard that the Fly works the front door from 6am to 2pm central. After working tirelessly welcoming tens of thousands of shoppers each day, he gets off with his usual jar of pickled pig feet and pickled cow tongue and jumps in the back of the local chicken truck that passes by the run down farm where he resides. Setting there on the dirt road near the leaning and rusted mailbox waiting on his owner is a 140 lbs. 12 year old hybrid golden retriever and house cat by the name of Fat Chance. Yes, it's a half dog and half cat. As the truck approahes the farm the Fly jumps off the truck while in motion and he immediately pulverizes this strange and odd looking animal. After 3-4 minutes of humpng and slobbering they both race 150 yards to the house where the Fly beats Fat Chance each and every time by at least 50 yards. Clearly the hybid is worn out from the humping and slobbering attack by the Fly.

Now, I am sworn to secrecy far I wish not to get my contact in trouble.

Blog members, which of us do you believe?

by DoOrDie January 30, 2011 8:12 PM

Yahoo

I knew it Boy you are a regular as a roster crowing in the morning boy. howdy berto how you been boy enjoying these last few moments of freedom son. I told them you would show. I may not be the Finance wiz as you but I know how to pick horse race and boy you run the best.
DoNotBeleive told you berto is getting jumpy with all the heat now he's fishin for the ones that have turned on him to the Feds and are still working the scam. The (Rangers) that berto count on to keep the lie going are now turning on him like rats in a bucket full of fatback. Not bad boy not bad at all there DoNotBeleive you sure you ain't from Texas boy. looks like you got a bit of huntin dog in ya too by The fly January 30, 2011 8:21 PM

Cleary this ineffective hoodwinker has not comprehended the request from the other wet blankets for him to shut up. So, I applaud does that have and will continue to discount and ignore his or her immaterial eruptions.

by DoOrDie January 30, 2011 8:57 PM

mdudd

Not afraid of getting the COR person in trouble...I could care less about him, he is already in trouble.
I am afraid of backlash for my friend.
By giving any more information, I am sure some of the COR people on this site would be able to figure it out. by DoNotBelieve January 30, 2011 11:12 PM

Basicaly they are all in trouble! by DoNotBelieve January 30, 2011 11:13 PM

You guys are SO funny! A bunch of Chicken Littles. "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"

by State of Texas January 30, 2011 11:29 PM

You guys are really good at name calling!
You can say want you want...I saw this info! by DoNotBelieve January 31, 2011 7:50 AM

- DNB

We are calling it as it presents itself. You have no invested interest, but as a "close friend" instead of supporting your friend, you get on the World Wide Web and state that your friend is in denial and you are going to do whatever it takes to bring down what your "close friend" believe in. WHAT A WAY TO GO "CLOSE FRIEND". What if your "close friend" is right?

You remind me of my 1st wife; always in someone's business that is not hers. Always thinking she's right and she's helping.

With friends like you, _____________? - YOU KNOW THE REST.

by DoOrDie January 31, 2011 9:36 AM

WHATEVER...It is a complicated situation,and doesn't warrant me going into on this site! by DoNotBelieve January 31, 2011 10:42 AM

WHATEVER is the best thing you have said on this site.

by DoOrDie January 31, 2011 11:03 AM

It is a complicated situation... OMG, DoOrDie just knocked you out cold.

He's right, you and the rest are wasting time being involved. We need something substantial if you are among the naysayers. And if you are not a partner, what in the hell are you here for in the first place. I have yet to hear from a partner that has something negative to say. by TKO January 31, 2011 11:23 AM

TKO

Not down yet!
What am I doing here in the first place?Last time I looked we do live in the USA,land of the free...
Freedom of speech etc. I have my opinion, you have yours!
Partners run with the company line, why would they have anything negative to say. They are all drinking the KoolAide.
I just think a two year track record of No Funding would be a Red Flag for anyone!

I meant the situation between my friend and I is comlicated.

Don't get excitied, I am not going away! by DoNotBelieve January 31, 2011 11:33 AM

I for one applaud DNB for his efforts. It appears that he's been respectful in his comments and has raised questions about COR and their ability to ever fund. I never sent Remington Financial any money but I'd sure as heck visit a site such as this one to alert people to what has been reported about them in the hope that someone won't waste their time and money.

Would anyone disagree with the following statements?

COR has communicated an ability and willingness to fund.

COR has not provided hard evidence of ability to fund or past performance with these types of transactions.

COR is significantly past due with regard to disbursing money to anyone save the one person who indicated that he got the small upfront amount and nothing else.

COR has communicated funding dates that have come and gone without disbursement.

Many people still believe in COR's ability to fund. Many don't.

Not everyone feels harmed by the delays.

At least one COR Ranger is under indictment for running an investment scam and Ponzi scheme.

The Fly is an individual whose chosen writing style is meant to annoy most and to mask his true writing style, thus his identity.

Some believe that only project partners should be allowed to voice opinions or concerns about COR. Some feel that it is their responsibility to educate the masses.

If a project partner voices concern and identifies himself/herself, he/she should not be surprised when he/she only gets his/her administration fee back.

Everyone on this site (me included) is Alberto Colon.

Every governmental agency is seeking Alberto, including the Forest Service.

The federal court for Illinois has set aside a special wing for all of the pending lawsuits that have been drafted but apparently not filed.

Cherub is praying and encourages us to do the same.

COR still has not funded!

Did I miss anything?

by Abundanceoffrauds January 31, 2011 11:38 AM

Abundanceoffrauds

That was great! I think you covered it all.
#1 Only one thing...I don't think you are Alberto Colon and neither am I! I do think Cherub could be though.
#2 I think he is safe from the Forest Service! AC that is.

Like your style! by DoNotBelieve January 31, 2011 12:14 PM

Abund...

Thank you for respecting my opinions and efforts in this matter, and are willing to say so. I appreciate it. by DoNotBelieve January 31, 2011 12:18 PM

Failure is IMPOSSIBLE to those that trust in the Lord. by Cherub of Hope January 31, 2011 2:23 PM

Well good day gdentle people

I have read thur all of the post and found them to all be very interesting. point counterpoint was well played.I am still in the dark about a few of the finer points and direction of the dfunding time table that continues to change. But yet there have been a few that were funded and Cor did not inform the others of this. I also wonder how such a finacially astute leader as mr Colon and the vast network of organizations that all reside in a tiny UPS mail box. over look the need for person to person contact and interaction. yes I am well aware of this vast new cyber business world we now live and work in but someone explain to me why we have not seen or heard of any of the paid projects from Cor it to me would not violate any of Cor's agreements if one is to beleive the contract agreement issued by Cor. It would seem that those that have been funded would stand tall as a shining example of the power and ability of Cor. I have asked for this Proof and I have not received it. We and many others are investigating Mr Colon and his ventures and have found no signs of him or Cor with ability to fund any of it's contractual agreements. Once again Al-Bert-Toe your mail box is full please come and empty it. Yea berto it's me boy by The fly January 31, 2011 4:09 PM

Oops typo (gentle) by The fly January 31, 2011 4:10 PM

They cannot show proof of funding because there is none.
I understand they are going to a more secure way of communicating. Too much information getting out! by DoNotBelieve January 31, 2011 4:14 PM

DoNotBeleive

The mode of there communication and decimanation of information is at this point a mute point. It is a fast the red flags have been poping up all over the place with inquiries with verious federal agencies and finacial watch groups also the fact both local police and private investigation firms are keep close tabs on this on going scam. As for the flow of information thats just another sign the house of card Mr Colon had put together is falling apart with the growing list of those that are facing life times in jail. And as for the pickel pig feet remark you read earlier I never could get myself to try one but i'm told there very good (lol).I was however very interested in your insider info concerning mr colon's 50 Million Dollar booboo. I did some more digging and came across some very interesting claims in califorina and as I stated earlier I know of 10 Million that can be proved in collections. Oh and as for the Mighty Legal team Mr Colon has threaten to unlease apon anyone that would bring suit naming Cor We have yet to hear from them or anyone for that matter. Mr Colon has not empyede there UPS box so maybe he didn't get the memo by The fly January 31, 2011 4:38 PM

You are 68.75% correct, but here is what you were incorrect about.

- The Fly is masking his true writing style. Yeah right! (No one isn’t that dumbber. – Bad grammar and incorrect spelling, but you get my point. You cannot understand jack he’s saying.)

- Everyone has the right to express his or her opinion. I ask that you speak the truth and what you really know to be the facts. That is what we all are here for.

- Clearly COR is not dropping anyone for expressing their opinions or identifying their selves, I’m still here.

- No one that is posting on this blog is Alberto Colon, that’s one thing I can vouch for.

- Not one governmental agency is seeking Colon or COR. Everyone knows this.

As far as DNB efforts, it’s weak and makes no realistic sense. Therefore, a common naysayer will applaud him/her, just as the Republicans applaud and support Sarah Palin. You all stick together no matter how absurd it is. You want talk against any fool that supports your cause. There is always a place for Joe the Plummer.

by DoOrDie January 31, 2011 4:43 PM

It is a fast moving pace the red flags are poppong up

You all must forgive the typo's I am on the phone and typing at the same time. Age starting to show by The fly January 31, 2011 4:50 PM

Much better the Fly. Structure needs some work, but much better.

The fact still remains that you do not know didlie swout.

by DoOrDie January 31, 2011 4:53 PM

DOD

By the way Mr. Perfect grammar and spelling...It is
DIDDLY SQUAT!

It figures you are a Democrat! by DoNotBelieve January 31, 2011 5:02 PM

This is a question for DoOrDie or mdudd or anyone else with solid info.

Do you know of anyone/company that has actually recieve funding from this company?

References with Names and Address and telephone number or email would be helpful.

by summerheat January 31, 2011 5:12 PM

I am not either of them, but I doubt you will get anything like that from them. So far from what I have read on this site since August and going back 2 years, not one person has come forth and said they had been funded. I know the person I know has not received one penny...just promises. by DoNotBelieve January 31, 2011 5:31 PM

DoD:

Thanks for the follow up. I respect your opinion.

Clearly, parts of my post were satirical and meant to demonstrate how this blog seems to roam loose with the facts.
(Fly - satiracal means "of satire: using wit, especially irony, sarcasm, and ridicule, to criticize faults".)

"THE MYSTERY UNFOLDS. DoNotBelieve is a partner that is straddling the fence. He will not admit to it, because he has gone too far with his charade, but it has been identified. I hope he is not surprise when “the person he is close to” only get his administration fee back.

by DoOrDie January 28, 2011 10:16 AM"

The easiest way out of this mess belongs to COR. Fund and everyone shuts up!

by Abundanceoffrauds January 31, 2011 5:31 PM

- DNB

Thank you. I did have trouble with that.

And no. I'm an independent. I love to think for myself.

Don't sound so bitter. We are good.

by DoOrDie January 31, 2011 5:41 PM

DoOrDie

i would like to direct your attention to the on going FBI inverigation and the local investigation being conducted as we speak by the Hoffman Estate Police and There are at lease 5 that I am sure of Collection Agencies that are seeking to recover 10 Million Dollars. There are others out there lined up to file Over 300 Million in civil suits. Just waiting to put em in Mr Colon's hands. I like humor most of the good ol boys I'm escorted to the pokie have all enjoyed my Texas country humor and I must admit I like to rip a good one off when I get my teeth in a case like this one. To address the issue of funding I have spent a few sleepless nights reading public records and files collected on this case and there are no finding what so ever that would lead to support the ability of Cor or Mr Colon to provide the funds it claims to be amassing not now or for the two years or even longer those project partners/Victims have been waiting. I know this as a fast time is getting short for them and him. by The fly January 31, 2011 5:49 PM

as a fact by The fly January 31, 2011 5:54 PM

- Abund

Thank you for clearing that up for the Fly. We all know by now his problem.

THE MYSTERY UNFOLDS piece really meant that I cannot stand an anonymous enemy. Be man or woman enough to at least state your rank, but to say you are carrying someone else’s load or an investigator that that forewarns the perpetrator on a blog. Please! I would believe in Fat Chance the Hybrid dog/cat first.

by DoOrDie January 31, 2011 6:12 PM

- summerheat

Sorry, but you got lost in the shuffle.

Find my email address on this blog and email me.

by DoOrDie January 31, 2011 6:21 PM

There it is again. DNB is answering for someone else. Summerheat asked mdudd or me the question. You sure you are not my ex-wife. Get off this blog Kate. You got the house and I got the dog. I'm happy!

by DoOrDie January 31, 2011 6:30 PM

DoOrDie, State of Texas, mdudd and TKO; I am calling for a day of atonement from this blog for a day/24 hours. 24 hours of silence/no interaction with the naysayers, starting at 12 midnight Eastern time. Let their idle minds blog among themselves. Log back on the next day on Wednesday and read how they sound. I'm sure we can think of positive things to do for 24 hours. Praying is one suggestion. He will make a way out of no way. Thank You... by Cherub of Hope January 31, 2011 7:05 PM

DOD
I started with the fact I wasn't either of you. But I knew you would never give Summerheat the answers he is looking for. So go ahead answer his questions! Name ain't Kate sorry! No wonder your wife divorced you...glad she got something! Cause it won't be funding from COR!

Cherub
You need to come back to reality...You really are out there. Praying is good but it isn't going to make COR fund! Not even God can do that! by DoNotBelieve January 31, 2011 7:17 PM

There you go again, got all the answers. You are not Kate, because she know I filed the divorce. I'm sure you are someone's wife or girlfriend though.

I'm good Cherub. I will not give these worrywarts 5 minutes to spread their poison.

by DoOrDie January 31, 2011 7:40 PM

DoNotBelieve must be Pagan/Atheist and don't know God. God can do any and everything. All things are possible in and through God.
DoOrDie--- They can't spread poison unless you entertain them... DoNot Believe and thefly needs prayer... After a statement like "Not even God can do that!" that DoNotBelieve made... Going back and forth won't help. Prayer will; because he has challenged God and all people who believe in God knows what that mean. His arms are too short to box with God.. After 12 midnight, atonement will begin.

by Cherub of Hope January 31, 2011 8:15 PM

Here fly, let me help you:

A gut-bucket, backwoods boy needs to slop the hogs. Since he can only come up with enough slop for 10 hogs at this point in the feeding cycle - but he has 20 hogs to feed - what does he do? Well he pulls 10 hogs off the the side and gives 'em their slop. BUT he doesn't let the other 10 know about the 10 who have their food! Why? Because he doesn't need a riot in the pig pen. And as more slop is available from the slop-producers, the gut-bucket, backwoods boy is able to slowly feed a few more hungry hogs. Of course the last ones to get fed usually get a little cantankerous! That's to be expected. Some of them even get on message boards and show the world they're asses. (...that would be a metaphor, tf)!
Is the gut-bucket, backwoods boy at fault? Nope. Is the slop supplier at fault? I dunno! Maybe that's all the slop he has at the moment!
Here's what I know: Sooner are later all the hogs who deserve slop, get slop. Those who don't?....
Well fly, that would be where bacon comes from.

So there's a lesson in high-end economics that I think you'll understand, boy. by State of Texas January 31, 2011 9:30 PM

DNB,

Yes, you are right, this is the U.S.A. Innocent until proven guilty. Outlandish remarks, unsupported hearsay,internet gossip. So please do not use freedom of speech as your excuse.
Just lend your friend some money (you claimed to be ok finacially), help him out and than you do not have to worry about this site any more. Be that good friend, which i think you are trying to be.

The Fly,
You just need to go away. A fly always hovers around shit, eats shit and is always annoying. Until he gets swatted, or hits a windsheild. SPLAT...
You have no proof either. You claim all of these lawsuits, where are they. This investigation, you claim, has been going on for way to long. so go fly off and bother another blog. You know what, stay here and i will leave so you can sit here and play with yourself, because YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT. You have made some despicable remarks and accusations. You should be banned from here. Actual your old man should have shot his load in the sink..............

Summer Heat,

DOD has your info for you.

DOD and all other believers/partners,
Cherub is correct. Time to leave this site and let the whiners keep whining and begging for info. We have projects to worry about.

Cherub,
I am with you. Time for atonement.

by mdudd January 31, 2011 9:52 PM

State of Texas...

How to run a Ponzi scheme: Collect money from first group. Collect money from second group. Give first group some of the second groups money keeping some for yourself. Collect money from third group and give to second group after keeping some for yourself. Keep going. Why is this an illegal practice, because eventually you run out of groups and several people get hosed.

How does this description differ from your analogy?

The "backwoods boy" you described in your analogy shouldn't have taken on 20 hogs when he only had food for 10. Is it his fault? Certainly! If you think that that the boy is acting in the best interest of all of the hogs, you are sadly mistaken. It appears that you've just reinforced the concerns of the naysayers on this site with the suggestion in the analogy above. If you received funds from such a scheme, please take the lesson from Maddoff and company as the monies had to be repaid. If you have knowledge of the scheme while continuing with it, you are complicit in the commission of a felony.

But I'm sure that I've misunderstood your post.

I'm done here, I don't want to sit in jail for anyone, especially those on this site.

"Educating the masses isn't worth the powder it would take to blow them all up."

Have a nice atonement period hoglets. You may be the bacon on my plate in 48 hours.

Good night! by State of Texas January 31, 2011 11:17 PM

Cherub
For one, I believe in God I am a Catholic, have been all my life. I just don't think even God approves of these antics. Maybe you need to come down from cloud 9 back to the real world!
DOD
Now I am a wife or a girlfriend...That is interesting.
Not the case. Would like to loan my friend the money, but he is in so deep to many people for so much money, can't be done. I told you desperartion makes you do irrational things.He is hanging his life, his marriage,his family on COR. Not his business, cause that is gone already!

You all do need to pray...For God's forgiveness for scaming all these people. I have a clear conscience.
I do pray and will continue to for all those who will be harmed by these empty ventures! by DoNotBelieve January 31, 2011 11:27 PM

DOD
Forgot:
Innoncent till proven guilty, you are right, ther are indicments against several of these so called Rangers.
Some have already been in jail out on bail.

Not internet gossip,not unsupported hearsay,not outlandish remarks, I have seen the messages form the Rangers. Unless you don't believe anything they say either...I don't! by DoNotBelieve January 31, 2011 11:36 PM

-DoNotBelive I understand where you are coming and I sort agree with you.

I happen to see some of the corespondence from a so call "ranger" as well and they tend read something like this.....

"If you dont recieve funds by such and such a date email me"

The English language is "funny" but if you read that statement carefully, it did'nt really say that funds was sent.

Somewhat intentionally deceptive and disingenuous thou. A reasonable people would expect to receive funds after recieving an letter like that thou. Sounds familiar?

They are "shady" and probably in on the scam, because why would someome send an corespondence like that, when they are fully aware they did'nt send any funds?

by summerheat February 1, 2011 10:47 AM

Summerheat
Most of the ones I read go something like this:

We are on schedule for disbursement, more info to come.
Alberto met all weekend with his Rangers progress is happening.
Can't pass on anything till Alberto puts out his letter.
Hold your questions till you have recived letter or Email.
We are on 24 to 72 hour basis.
Wait now on hour to hour, that was a month ago.
Everything is done just waiting for the go ahead.
Alberto is not in charge of the release of the money, that was a good one!
I am sure you get the idea, these are just some over the many months.

How they get away with this is mind boggling and to actual believe you are going to get millions on your thousands of investment. I have some swamp land I could sell them!
I just don't get how supposedly smart business men/women can be taken in like this! by DoNotBelieve February 1, 2011 1:14 PM

DoNotBelieve I see the same kind of "bullshit" corespondence from my friend, but I dont want to rain on his parade. It is very obvious to me, that the whole thing is a ponzi scheme - or some version of one.

I have another theory, in these tough economic times where financing is difficult, COR is simply "tying up" pools of peoples money for the sole purpose of using it for their own investing activities, without any intention of providing funding. When the a "project partner" sees the light, get fed up and complains, they simply return the initial deposit.

This is the way they could "technically" avoid proscecution.

In any event this is unethical.

This is harmful to the "project partner" as they are so called because, he has lost lots of time and opportunity and has unwitting loan out his funds to COR interest free.

by summerheat February 1, 2011 2:11 PM

I agree, I think they just use the money, invest it, make money on other people's money and give excuses to hold everyone off as long as possible. But in the case of my friend, I think he truely believs he is going to get this big return on his initial investment...It is sad! by DoNotBelieve February 1, 2011 2:16 PM

Yeah DoNotBelieve that is how COR lowers them in. They promise to fund their project no matter how unrealistic their business plan's are as long they could come up with the initial deposit.

by summerheat February 1, 2011 2:42 PM

It is nice to talk with someone who is on the same page.
As you know the others are taking a day off the site, calling it a day of Atonement. They need to seek atonement for all the people they have hurt.
How many days ago did you ask for actual proof from anyone who has been funded. They skate right over that because it doesn't happen. Not one person ever comes forth and answers that question as many times as it has been asked...Never!
Cherub must be their spiritual advisor!

Have you tried to get your friend to get out? It is a very dificult situation, when they are so desperate for the money. They borrow money to get in and jsut get empty promises. by DoNotBelieve February 1, 2011 5:10 PM

-DoNotBelieve you are so right.I have been involved project development for many many years. It's the only thing I know. When a bank or financial institution provide financing for a worthwhile venture of activity they are very proud to "show this off" to the world. They put up banners on the site while construction is going, they publish it on their website and so on, they are happy to "brag" about the "good works" they have done to the world.

All good companies know the importance of Public relations. It is impossible to fund "billions" of dollars in projects without any "credible" evidence of it be seen in the real world. Impossible. Their public relations is going to be "proportitional in size and scope" to the projects they have funded/helped.

Ok lets take a look in the "real world".... none........ Then that's your answer.

I have put "pointed questions" to my friend but I hope he soon sees the light

by summerheat February 1, 2011 6:14 PM

Brrrrrrrrr Y'all

Well sir I'm stuck here in your midway airport until tomorrow flew up here this morning to meet with our team and with the feds and locals. Wished I could have done this last week.

I read thur all of the post here and bravo for the hog joke I did get a kick out of that one. As to the scam that is on going we are learning a great deal from those that were and are still locked up as to the inner organizational structure I must admit I found it to be fasinating reading. As you all may or may not know the vast nunber of these so called Rangers do not know one another and in fact have never met face to face before this is done in part keep infomation to a minimum and to avoid the true nature of the grand scheme of this scam to be realized. However there are those few close to the top of the pole that BS the BS'ers one is that Ross guy and there are a few others as well.

I have been following this for the most part of last year and waiting until we could get a firm grip on the major players. A small tight group of scam artist with three goals

1. Scam as many as possible

2. keep the lie going as long as they can and make money

3. Cut and run leaving the Rangers holding the bag if the heat got too hot.

As for the terrorist connection it is a very real one and I have read a few eyes only reports on this Crew and Cor among other ventures Alberto's name appears.

The bottomline is very simple there is no money to fund there never was and there never will be. The claims of those that say they were funded are either out and out lies or it is true they were paid. Paid off part of the total cut collected so far.

I desided to join this little blog to get some intel and to follow the money trail and I am pleased with the outcome of my little endeavor. It is almost at the end just a matter of federal legal paperwork and the fun will begin. I truly hope that you and anyone out there were able to get there money back. My fear in this case is it is too late as it has been my unpleasent experance in cases like this before. Well I'm going to have another one of those high as hell airport sandwitches gosh a mighty now thats a crime by The fly February 1, 2011 7:08 PM

Fly

A lot different weather in Illinois than Texas.
Will we be reading or seeing this up coming downfall of the COR group? Let us know. Old Ross boy , he is out on bail as it is, isn't he?

I guess since it is 11:35 the 24 hr boycot of this site by DOD SOT MDUDD CHERUB held up. It was nice to not see all their lies and accustions for a day!

Till tomorrow!
DNB by DoNotBelieve February 1, 2011 11:40 PM

Word on the street...FUNDING is IMMINENT AGAIN!
Wow here we go again...Can't wait to hear the excuses this time...You would think they would run out! by DoNotBelieve February 2, 2011 1:22 PM

Let me guess........

All "Forest Rangers" get all "Project Partners" to resubmit all documentation for the projects. Our computer systems have been "miraculously" compromised. lol

"We will then "resume" funding with the next 75 hours. lol

by summerheat February 2, 2011 3:01 PM

Nothin left to say. Lets just see how the next couple of days play out....

by mdudd February 2, 2011 9:06 PM

We're baaaack!

Clearly the far-right group had a good old cross burning and indoctrination rally in the last 24+ hours.

It appears that summerheat has joined the ranks of the “I Have No Invested Interest Klan (IHNIIK)”. Why are the IHNIIK members the only ones that are negative? LET ME GUESS…. They are afraid to say that they are actually a partner or consultant/broker or they simply do not have a life. I’m sure they have a better answer. – I have a close friend that is in denial and I only want to blau, blau, blau or I’m not trying rain on their parade, but blau, blau, blau or Partners run with the company line, why would they have anything negative to say, blau, blau, blau…

Little that they know, a few have been identified;
especially you DoNotBelieve. So, you are not a partner, correct? Remember, those are your words. – “lies and accusations”, really! And our good friend the Fly – BOY (your favorite red-neck phrase), we now know who you are too – Mr. Texas country Boy. ;-) Your client decided to seek funding elsewhere. The Cease and Desist Order was accepted and mutually agreed upon. Sorry it did not work out for you. But - you make a helluva Joe the Plumber I must say. I guess your next move will be publishing a book about your experience just as Samuel Wurzelbacher did.

- mdudd

They got bored. Watching them talk to each other was nauseating. This will get them started again. LOL!

In the enduring words of the Fly, “BOYS” (IHNIIK) have at it.

by DoOrDie February 2, 2011 9:23 PM

DOD

Got it right...I am NOT a Partner...So who am I? Sounds like a game show. I don't know how many times I have to tell you, I am NOT a Partner! by DoNotBelieve February 2, 2011 11:08 PM

mdudd

You seem resigned to the fact, That it will be the same old thing come Thursday, Friday whatever day! More excuses! by DoNotBelieve February 2, 2011 11:17 PM

DOD

By the way it is Blah, Blah, Blah not blau. by DoNotBelieve February 2, 2011 11:21 PM

Blah, blau, does it matter. I'm not here to make friends with you Klansman. This is where folks are coming to find answers, but all they get are a few fools that have no invested interest (so they claim) sprouting off at the mouth. They would prefer to read from someone that is actually involved or were involved (one that is brave enough to say it). This is serious and we do not need any help from our close friends like you are claiming to be. I'm sure your "close friend" will agree.

So who are you, you asked. I would say you are misplaced.

by DoOrDie February 3, 2011 6:54 AM

-mdudd and DoOrDie

I am extending a personal challenge to you. Go back and read the last three or four corespondence from your "ranger" and evaluate for yourself if this information was useful or just "stall tactics".

You be the judge.......

Example of useful info:
An amount of $xxx.00 was wired this morning, the tracking number is "12312xdx"

Example of garbage:
"All funding structures are in place, send your ranger an email if you don't recieve it by 00/00/2011." (When you fully well know you aint send shit lol)

by summerheat February 3, 2011 7:16 AM

The Ranger that sent your "close friend" that is an idiot. I have never seen that before. There are 5 Rangers and a couple of them should be kicked in the ass and then dropped. COR has made many mistakes and the babylon 5 Ranger shit is one of them. My challenge to you and the rest is mind your business.

by DoOrDie February 3, 2011 7:28 AM

DOD
The messages are all basically the same, as we stated above when you were doing your boycot. So according to you all these so called RANGERS are full of it.
My freind receives the same kind of double talk as Summerheats. I don't know Babylon 5 Ranger. I guess you are saying this is a particular Ranger name.
My CHALLENGE, as you call it, is to inform other people who are thinking of getting involved with COR, NOT TO, for all the above reasons from the last 2 years. Investigate, read, if they do any searching at all, they will find many of the names of people who are involved with COR, in much legal trouble. Red Flags, scams, ponzi schemes...! by DoNotBelieve February 3, 2011 9:10 AM

DOD

P.S. You are not going to get rid of me that easily! by DoNotBelieve February 3, 2011 9:12 AM

FLY
Is it true, they were able to silence you, due to outside pressure? by DoNotBelieve February 3, 2011 10:18 AM

These con artists know they can't just take your money and completely cut communication and disappear. So they send you lots of useless communication from these "rangers" ("Forest rangers" lol) - their title is a clue. These "rangers" sole purpose is to lead you around "The Yellow Stone Park" "the bush" lol

by summerheat February 3, 2011 11:54 AM

I've laughed as I've read this site over the months. I love the part about the boycott of the site on February 1st. It shouldn't have been hard to arrange all of those people because it was just two guys with different screen names. I'm glad that I pulled out of this mess. The more I read, the more I doubt that Cor is real. by SeriouslyC'mon February 3, 2011 12:05 PM

I am not optimistic about funding. It will come!! There is just too much progression that has gone on over the past 18-24months.
Have there been a couple of missteps, yes. Nobody is perfect.
No one on this site, including myself, has a complete idea to what the funding structure is, so why speculate.
Have there been bumps in the road, yes, but COR is still here and we are still talking about them. No one has run off, or quit or stopped communicating with the partners. The people who have PAID their monies, are ok and their "friends" who are sooo concerned, WISHING IT FAILS, so they can say "i told you so", or the other angle, JEALOUSY. Funny thing that jealousy word. It brings the worst out of people, which it seems like is happening here.
I just feel it is a waste of my time to communicate with people, who have no cash in the game...
People are throwing challenges out there. Come on..

By the way, I have never seen an email that references what was said above.

SC,
You pulled out so why waste your time here. If you were still around, with COR, you would see exactly what i am talking about.

The only thing left to do is too FUND. That simple. Once it happens, everyone that is a believer/partner will move on with their project.
The non-believers/friends/people who did not pull the trigger, will go on and be JEALOUS, but you will have a great story to tell people of what you could have been. by mdudd February 3, 2011 12:38 PM

MDUDD

You haven't seen any of those Email messages, that is kind of hard to believe! Those are the Email messages that are sent out all the time from the so called Rangers!
You say everyone will go on. What about all the people still hanging on with the belief they will be Funded and it never comes, meanwhile they have money invested in the thousands with COR...which gets them diddle!
There is no jealousy on my part...just empathy for those naive investors! My friend being one of them. He is so desperate he can't see "The Forest for the Trees." by DoNotBelieve February 3, 2011 2:40 PM

MDUDD

Do you think 18-24 months without funding a Penny is a little ridulous! These Rangers promise every week Funding is in place, structure for funding is ready, oh wait...Alberto has to wait for the go ahead to release the money, oh wait, had to re-vamp because of the new tax laws, oh wait, have to download new programs, oh wait, not everybody is online yet, oh wait, the Midwest is snowed in...on and on and on...Come on, even you and DOD can't believe all these delay tactics! If you do, I have some swamp land to sell you! by DoNotBelieve February 3, 2011 2:50 PM

DNB,

Your friend was desperate before he got involved with COR. So you cannot blame COR on his problems prior to getting involved. Cor is a way out for him. correct?
I may be alot of things, but i am not naive. I did my research, I understand how private banking works and the progression that has happened, bit it a little slower than hoped, but COR is still here.
If you or your friend are still recieving emails, sorry. I have not recieved one in the last 2 weeks pertaining to funding. Again, if your friend has a problem, tell him to email alberto directly. he has his email address, and he does respond.
One thing this process has taught me is paitience and believe me i have NONE. Has it been easy, no. But agian i will say funding is coming. Maybe a day, a week, a month, that i cannot answer because i do not know.

I will give you a little secret, i have associates that also submitted projects to COR. Some of them were denied. I know of 3 projects (not because i am a broker), but because they were people that used the same contact. So i will ask, if all COR wanted was money, They would never turn down a project.Correct?

by mdudd February 3, 2011 3:05 PM

Well Sir

I have heard some tall ones in my days but this is about the biggest. The only thing that sidelined me was that dang snow and the bush wacking robbers at the airport. gosh o mighty I could have fed my whole famly for a week with what i spent on the so called food there.

As for the backing off No Sir no such luck I got back here this afternoon got settled in had a real meal started to burn my credit card but thought dang it I still gota pay the bill then I thought I'll add it to Al-bert-toes tab.

back to business as we suspected this is a very small group that from what we have dug up started out with somewhat good intentions but with the crash and the lost of there startup money the plan turned and the whole idea of Cor and this sorry attempt to ride the gold market fell short with having to repay others and also some inhouse fighting. The total amount of investments holdings and the Cor Scam is somewhere around 20 million and change but thats all falling apart fast with the fall of key members such as Ross and the fellow in North Dakoda and there is another guy I spoke with from just outside of chicago that gave us some very interesting insight into the whole operation and where it's going. The latest e-mail is a general alert to those close that they are about to pull the plug soon.Now no matter what our friends may say the fact still remains the same there is no money to be founded and there never was. And the next time I have to come to Chicago for a case i'll send one of the young whipper snappers from the office here. As the song gose Thank god I'm a country boy, the yellow rose of texas that sort of thing . I'm still warming up by The fly February 3, 2011 3:59 PM

DoOrDie (Al-bert-Toe)

What the heck are you talking about boy. I don't have a client that was or wanted to be a victim of yours and No Sir I have not backed off one teny tiny bit son. Your not going to fund your going to jail boy. And once again as soon as some of that snow from infront clears out please pick up your mail. I would think a man of your means would at lease have a snow blower or a service to clear it for you. The clock is counting down Sir and your and this scams time is quickly running out. by The fly February 3, 2011 4:14 PM

FLY
Glad to see they didn't accomplish to get you removed.

MDUD
If you did your research, how could you have not found all of the articles from the newspapers and court documents, with many of the COR names listed. Rangers,COR Excutives, if that is what they call themselves. Some of which have been arrested and are out on bail, for Ponzi Schemes. Why would you even consider investing money with a group like this? 6 months, 12months,24 months, you say you can wait...They are crooks, wake up!I am not an investigator or an investigative reporter, I am a person with a computer and common sense. It only took me about 10 minutes to uncover much information on this group. It wasn't difficult. I guess your answer to me will be...Newspapers and court documents, District Attorneys,
aren't telling the truth. When one of your Rangers is Photographed in an Orange Jumpsuit from jail, you think you might question your judgement! by DoNotBelieve February 3, 2011 4:21 PM

DoNotbeleive

DoOrDie,MDUDD and a few others are the same person if you look thur there past post you will see the same style in which they express themselfs here. plus the plain as your nose give away when he gets mad and changes user names you will find the so called project partner/observer knows just a bit too much as to the inner working of Cor and Alberto not to be Alberto himself. The Orange Jumpsuit ataire has already been sported by Cor insiders. Hell DoNotBeleive the only thing that got me was that snow and high prices at the airport.DoOrDie(AL-Bert-Toe) says he knows me .Not yet berto not yet but he will know me when the braclets go on thats a fact. by The fly February 3, 2011 4:44 PM

FLY

Airport prices can do that to a person.

I have already seen the photos of one of their COR guys in his Orange Jumpsuit...Not really flattering! That is what I mean. This information is so out there for everyone. They just have to look for it!

I get what you are saying about the two personalities. by DoNotBelieve February 3, 2011 4:54 PM

- The one that plays in shit,

Well Klansman, your 10 days have come and gone. We have not heard one thing about anyone at COR going to jail that includes Alberto Colon. So what's the holdup. - I'll tell you. I'm glad you asked. The holdup is there is no investigation by anyone. So come up with a better one. You have been made.

I can careless if you are your other far right members stay here and post forever. My mission is completed. You are not an invested partner and that's all that matters at this point.

I will get back with you after the pouring of my cement tomorrow. I wish you and your Klansman members was under, opps, I meant, could be there.

by DoOrDie February 3, 2011 5:02 PM

Now the fly is a writing psychoanalyst. Now that’s some funny stuff!

by DoOrDie February 3, 2011 5:05 PM

Al-Berto-Toe

Howdy Boy How y'all been funny you should bring up S#$T thats why i'm here boy. The fastest way to attrect the attention of a fly is a big fresh plie of crap and boy you are right smack in the middle of the pile. As for the Investigation Al-Bert-Toe you well know these things take time for all the player to get into place. We sure as hell don't want you to slip off this hook son. You Good buddy Ross was singin like a cowboy with boots three sizes too small on. And the old boy I interviewed wants your head on a stick boy it seems you lied too him as well now he's up the creek cause he beleived in your BS and he was a Ranger . Damn i hate using that word I know or two groups Of Rangers one in the military and the other are here Texas Rangers. Makes me sick when I see the way you have dishonored them both. Anyway you see we flies know when something up we eat away all the dead and dying crap until there is nothing left . So berto the more you look the more of us flies you will see boy. You behind bars will be the bigger laugh I would think berto by The fly February 3, 2011 5:40 PM

Now Berto

You hurt my feeling boy . You callin me a klansman boy you wouldn't know a real klansman if'in one walked up to you with a rope and burning cross. you tightassed city wanta be crook boy I was fighting that wrong long before you even know what it was all about. I called you and your little group for what you and they are crooks nothing more nothing less. Boy you give crooks a bad name Damn just when I was starting to like you there you go tossing out the feed with the husk. You disapoint me son. Lets see no investigation hummmmm have you looked around you lately boy. And if you think changing phones will work boy I may not be the smartest country boy but I sure as heck know this much Boy they put a tag on you son so nop matter what phone you pick up there listin in son. It's a digital world what can I say. By the way can anyone here please tell me how in the hell do I retreive my voice mail My daugther in law got me one of those iphone things and I'm about to file it in the trash with the other gizmo's I have gotten over the pass few years. berto they got a special place in hell just for you son my advice is when you get there keep running boy the fire won't be so HOT !!!!!!! ROTFLMAO by The fly February 3, 2011 5:53 PM

Oh Berto I was the first one to stand up 30 years ago when the AA family moved our way and as for the mexican'a as well. Never had much use for them fellars and there kind of hate. But I am sure if some of those good folk you have hurt up there I wouldn't rush in if they got ahold of you first. But Boy If Your BS about Funding comes true I'll eat my horses saddle blanket on national TV boy i'll look for it to happen this friday hell boy i'll even toss you the weekend. Any takers??? Now boy if I win you shut your pie hole and turn yourself in pay some of these people back and go away to jail OKay son . It's go time fish or cut bait boy you know shit or get off the pot. Don't keepa riding these folk hard and putin up wet by The fly February 3, 2011 6:14 PM

Hey DoNotBeleive

Now don't sell yourself short there. Swamp land well at lease it's real and according to where it is could be the mother load. Remember location location location (lol) these snake oil peddlers are a something the fact they lie and forget the lie or role there playing or telling is amazing . first one says he's a project partner with the inside track then they switch gears and try to play the nut role and Oh yea the high and mighty Cor flag waving moment as funding is right over the hill and all will be saqved in the neck of time. Well time thats about the only thing these guys are going to get is time and plenty of it. As for the lie about turning down some projects we are to beleive this is credible intel . I think not hold on I will drop the latest sec/rep either later tonoght or in the morning I don't want to tip our hand with all the sorted details. Have a good one and y'all keep that dang snow up there where you yankees like it it's cold down here but should get to the 60s this weekend by The fly February 3, 2011 8:24 PM

Fly,

Contact Tim (further up the grapevine from late December). He can put you in contact with other people who have filed their own complaints with various authorities. by Waitedtoolong February 3, 2011 10:31 PM

Fly

I did not write the message above in the 10:29 time.
I have not been on this site all night. At 10:29 I was watching The Mentalsit.
I don't know how they did that but it was not me.
I don't know if there is a way to report this or not. I will check it out.

DOD MDUDD

You guys are really scum bags...Using my name to send a bogus message. I guess we are starting to get to you!

by DoNotBelieve February 3, 2011 11:09 PM

You whoever you are have really made me mad now! I will get to the bottom of this! I am tenacious! by DoNotBelieve February 3, 2011 11:15 PM

I HAVE CONTACTED THE SITE AND THEY ARE WORKING ON FINDING THE CULPRIT...WHICH SHOULDN'T BE DIFFICULT!

YOU REALLY SHOULD GROW UP!
NO WONDER YOU ARE INVOLVED WITH COR, YOU ACT JUST LIKE THEM!

The real DoNotBelieve! by DoNotBelieve February 4, 2011 9:28 AM

DNB,
You need to get a life. You are worried ablout someone using your account on this site. I could see if it was your banking info or something important.
Instead of contacting the site, you should hire the fly. He would get to the bottom of this.
As for the scumbag comment, just goes to show, make accusations without any proof. I will tell u this much, it was not me, because if it was, i would have put alot more things up there.
By the way, don't be to suprised that this site does not find any info.
For some reason i can't stop laughing while typing this. Sorry, i gues this is a serious situation. by mdudd February 4, 2011 9:47 AM

Will the real DoNotBelieve please sit down.

There you go again acting like someone’s bitchy wife or girlfriend! - “You whoever you are you have really made me mad now!” Who cares? What are you going to do about it? You are too scared to identify yourself. And the scum bags you speak of are the two that wasted time conceiving you.

Let’s face it; you were finally in your right mind when you or the ALLEDGED HACKER called that dipstick a dumbass. Y’all are so busy hiding behind these handles that you forget who you are and what lies you are telling. The Klan has more tricks than David Copperfield.

I tell you what. For the sake of argument; Let’s say while you were laying down watching The Mentalsit, couldn’t “your good friend” have gotten up from the motel bed and walked to the round table by the window where the laptop was located and use your password that was there on the table inscribed on a sheet of toilet paper. It was just a thought.

Whoever it was the author was extremely accurate in his description.

You non-invested jerkoffs should get a life.

by DoOrDie February 4, 2011 9:47 AM

Fantastic! Simultaneously! That eliminates mdudd and I from being the same person. LOL!

by DoOrDie February 4, 2011 9:50 AM

Fly

I hope you don't think I would send that message. First of all that isn't my style. We could probably figure it is one of two people. The site will figure it out and let me know. by DoNotBelieve February 4, 2011 9:57 AM

LMAO! He's a yellow chicken $^!* too.

by DoOrDie February 4, 2011 10:02 AM

Actually I never said you were one in the same. Get your facts straight.

by DoNotBelieve February 4, 2011 10:04 AM

Don't forget he thinks we all one in the same. LOL!

by DoOrDie February 4, 2011 10:04 AM

Well I don't!

by DoNotBelieve February 4, 2011 10:07 AM

Not you yellow, the insect. LOL!

by DoOrDie February 4, 2011 10:07 AM

He may be right he may not be. Most people have two computers, a desk and a laptop. You never know, since you think you are so clever! by DoNotBelieve February 4, 2011 10:09 AM

Back to name calling again...at least that is one thing you are good at! by DoNotBelieve February 4, 2011 10:11 AM

LOL! Don't worry the Fly is full of shit just like you are. So don't be scared and don't you cry.

by DoOrDie February 4, 2011 10:12 AM

OMG, maybe there is more than one alberto. maybe 2. maybe 3. Maybe we are all Alberto.

DNB,
Stop dening and just come clean. You had a lapse in judment and forgot who you logged in as. it happens.

Why can't i stop laughing. THIS IS JUST TO FUNNY........

Hey fly, Will you help him out. this disaster could ruin DNB's creditability on this horse shit blog site.

Still can't stop laughing by mdudd February 4, 2011 10:13 AM

LMAO by mdudd February 4, 2011 10:15 AM

DNB,
By the way, you started the name calling. Remember "Scumbag".
Just to let you know, computer genuis, you can log in from the same computer and post with different screen names.
Still LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by mdudd February 4, 2011 10:19 AM

Reminder - impersonating another member of the Grapevine is a violation of the Mortgage Grapevine Rules of Conduct. Violation of the Grapevine Rules of Conduct will result in permanent banishment.

I have disabled the imposter account, DoNotBeleive (spelled ei, not ie) which removed all posts made under that username.

I suggest all of you reread the Rules of Conduct which can be found here. Click Hereby backgroundgrrl February 4, 2011 11:01 AM

You guys have all of this time to take shots at each other because Cor still hasn't funded and probably never will.

by SeriouslyC'mon February 4, 2011 11:02 AM

SeriuoslyC'mon
You got that right! COR hasn't funded and probably never will!! Another week goes by!

backgroundgrrl
Thanks for clearing this up for us!
Did not notice ei instead of the ie by DoNotBelieve February 4, 2011 11:14 AM

It's in your DNA. You don't check things out throughly. You just run with it.

I still think it was you, but you got scared.

You feel better now darling.

by DoOrDie February 4, 2011 11:21 AM

DOD
Nobody else noticed it either...You all were too busy denying you did it!
Oh yes, I am really scared...Not!
Actually I do feel better...Thanks for asking darling! by DoNotBelieve February 4, 2011 11:30 AM

On the computer issue...I know you can use same computer with different names. My thought on the two computers was so you could have sent the messages exactly at the same time to throw everybody off.
On checking things out...I do and believe me I know a lot more than I would ever let on on this website.

Please enlighten me on what you know. You have nothing to fear. You are just a non-invested bystander with a lot to say. Please indulge me.

by DoOrDie February 4, 2011 11:47 AM

And before you get started, keep up with the conversations. The motel thing was me not mdudd. Oh, I forgot. We are one in the same.

Carry on.

by DoOrDie February 4, 2011 11:49 AM

MUDD
Sorry about that, accused you of the wrong statement...My Bad!

DOD
I need to be careful as not to expose my friends identy...But believe me I know quite a bit more. by DoNotBelieve February 4, 2011 1:51 PM

Typo: identity
If there is a chance for him to get his money back, I wouldn't want to jeopardize that. By divulging information I received from him that was suppose to be kept confidential. by DoNotBelieve February 4, 2011 1:55 PM

Clearly you are going to take what you know to your grave. So why bring it up.

Does Chula Vista, CA rings a bell?

by DoOrDie February 4, 2011 1:59 PM

DOD
Not sure what you mean about the above comment. by DoNotBelieve February 4, 2011 2:23 PM

Dang Boys

I take a few hours off and all hell breaks loose. Well it's friday and counting Berto. I got my plate knife and fork, salt and a tall glass of ice cold butter milk waiting and I contacted a real good friend at the local TV station we went to school together . I told him about our little bet here and well sir that good ol boy juat about fell out his chair backwards from laughing it brought a right big smile to my face as well. But he said if'in this money from the shy droped down on all these victims he will cover our little bet. by The fly February 4, 2011 3:39 PM

DoNotBeleive

No worries there it ain't important what berto says about me or what user name he trys it in .Its just another way to get your eyes off the prize and that is the latest load of horse crap about funding. and thanks for the heads up on that tim fellar. I looked into that one and found some very good intel there and passed it on.

I read over that Ross fellars file again last night and the other fellar close to chicago and it is just as we thought the money has dried up as far as project partners/victims they have recruited a whole new crop of victims plus rushing to close all of the other bank accounts connected to Mr berto's scams on-line. An just as a point to clear something up I checked I had others check and I had a good ol boy with the feds check There has not been now or ever for matter of any Gold trader names Alberto B. Colon anywhere there has and never has been any mention of Mr. Colon's vast ventures on anyone who is anyone's radar EVER!!!!!! or known for that matter

by The fly February 4, 2011 3:52 PM

FLY

Do you know when they recruited the new group of victims
approx.time frame? I wonder if my friend is in the new group. by DoNotBelieve February 4, 2011 4:15 PM

Looking thur all of the post here shows me a few things.

1. Attempts to devert from the truth and refocus on petty little name and cyber games.

2. Berto is getting jumpy to say the least the walls are closing in and his only out is this.

3. one would think that the closer to funding the more direct and to the point.

This is just as predicted just more in the endless line of delays but the delays will as the e-mails from berto come to an abrupt end soon.

Berto you once again disappoint me son if I am to assume you are an educated man it would bare to reason you would come up with something better then "dumbass" I mean really I've heard better from 1st graders.

I did not have the pleasure of reading the post before it was pulled. But I am sure I would have found them to be most entertaining to say the least from what I can gather it was a disparate attempt to lash out because the truth hurts and when you run out of lies and double talk you fall back on hate and anger. I have hauled in some hombres so bad they made the devil sweat call me far worst. I use to keep a list of the best ones i'll have to dig it out and share some of em with y'all here if'in we still have time before the end comes for berto. Hey boy where's the money have the heavens opened up and poured out???????? to tell you the truth you got the horse a bit concerned it's her favorite blanket as for me I know better LMAO by The fly February 4, 2011 4:57 PM

Looking thur our files and reports. The Alberto B. Colon Empire was taking money all last year up until Dec of 2010. Was our last report the boys in out east get closed lip about there on going investigations and just break off a chew or two for us unenformed country boys. I am afraid your friend's money is no more. The time to get out has come and past sorry to say all indications point to Al-bert-Toe pulling eveerything out planing to make a run. We just got word of two more collection agengies hunting for berto and Cor. One for 5 Million and the other for 2 Million. Look it's plan and simple this is a scam and if your friend can't see that then it's too late for him/her. No money to give out never was never will be. Just bill collectors lined up to collect what's left and civil suit's that will never be paided off just written off as loss by The fly February 4, 2011 5:12 PM

Wow!

by DoOrDie February 4, 2011 5:35 PM

Yep WOW! Is the correct word berto by The fly February 4, 2011 5:49 PM

Fly

I knew there wouldn't be any money, I just couldn't get my friend to realize it. I have been in business for many years. The old saying "If it is too good to be true." You know the rest. I can't believe any smart businessman could think COR was going to turn his investment of thousands into millions...It just doesn'r doesn't work that way!It just baffles me! by DoNotBelieve February 4, 2011 6:11 PM

Fly

On a lighter note...
What are you doing with snow in Texas for the Super Bowl?
You must have brought it with from Chicago.
I am rooting for the Steelers! by DoNotBelieve February 4, 2011 6:31 PM

Well DoNotBeleive

The facts are the facts and very sorry to say but if your friend hasn't gotten there money back by now I don't think there will be any left. You see Cor and Mr Colon owes a great deal and before they can try to return all of the so called intake fee they by law must pay there cerditors and claims posted thats the law. Also as you know this site is not secure so the exact Dollar amounts and Times as well as movments in realtime are off this is to allow for Mr Al-Bert-toe to feel at ease even the fact I am saying this now is nothing as the crooks feel they have all the time and angles and well I can't help it but if'in you give these dirtbags enough rope they'll and will very soon hang themselfs. As for the Super Bowl well I have been getting it all day about the snow thing and just as any good Texan I blamed it all on Al-Bert-Toe (ROTFLMAO)As for the Rangers I have been reading and listening to interviewed conducted over the past year and it is pretty much the same story. These guys are promised Millions in commissions and places on the boards of the companies they are managing i.e Project Partners/Victims the norm is about 5 to 6 victims to maintain direct contact with this cuts out the need to talk to anyone at Cor direct and keeps the victims at ease with the ability to speak with a real person. Now these kites as we call them (kites are disposable people when no longer needed they just cut the lines of contact with them leaving them high and dry)will meet only by phone with Berto or one of the other 4 crooks that make up Cor. And they are given a river load of BS and told that if there PP/Victim starts to get pushy or ask too many questions or we start to receive Questioning e-mails we will threaten them with droping there project or reviewing there funding spot you know first or second round of funding. This is to quiet them down and BS for more time. by The fly February 4, 2011 9:58 PM

The above atatements you gave, is pretty much what my friend experienced.
The Ranger would pass along some Emails from Alberto and add to them. Asking for no questions please until we get further information. Don't worry everything is progressing according to plan etc. Occasional phone conversations with his Ranger, everything is Good, Hang Tight, We are almost there. The real work is ahed of us......... You get it.
Like I said before, it is amazing that supposedly savy businessmen could be taken in by such a scam! by DoNotBelieve February 5, 2011 9:00 AM

As I sit here on this cold day in Arlington in anticipation to take my seat at number XLV tomorrow. I thought I should address the blog one more time.

If there is anyone left that views this blog for answers, understand the enemy uses doubt and discouragement to “neutralize” and stop the truth. Discouragement is a tool the devil uses to “cut short” your vision. The devil wants to keep you from moving forward. When Satan desires to paralyze you, he uses doubt to cause you to “conform” to his present situation. In other words, wretchedness loves company.

As many of you have shared with me in an email or two, the few naysayers that post here clearly are more connected to the funding of COR then they allege to. They feed on doubt clearly due to a suppressed repugnance for COR. I have yet to see any sincere compassion for those they claim to represent. – Simply because there is no one to represent but themselves.

I have taken jabs at these people to counter anything destructive that they may have thrown that can discourage the believers, but as many of you have shared with me, their words are discharged as hot air.

So, let’s pray that they find some sense of peace within themselves and that COR soon bring an end to a beginning.

Again, don’t be discouraged when the gloomy Gus responds negatively, because it will take time for them to conform; if ever.

Go Steelers!
Don by DoOrDie February 5, 2011 9:36 AM

DOD
I agree with one thing you said,"Go Steelers"!

I don't know how many times I need to tell you...I am not representing myself. I have no money invested in COR! As I stated before,I can't believe any savy business person could be taken in by such a scam, my friend maybe not so savy, just desperate!

Not one person has come forward and said,"Wow COR funded, I got my disbursement". It is years! As they say on ESPN...C'mon Man! by DoNotBelieve February 5, 2011 10:39 AM

DOD
I think comparing us to Satan,the Devil,is a little much!
The only reason I have the information I do is because I see it by way of my friend, not because I am closer to COR as you say. Apparently all you COR believers are willing to wait forever for your funding, forever is long time, it has already been over two years for some people, they could have taken that money and invested it somewhere else and been much better off and further ahead. Too Bad! by DoNotBelieve February 5, 2011 10:54 AM

DoD/Cherub:

You wrote: "If there is anyone left that views this blog for answers, understand the enemy uses doubt and discouragement to “neutralize” and stop the truth. Discouragement is a tool the devil uses to “cut short” your vision. The devil wants to keep you from moving forward. When Satan desires to paralyze you, he uses doubt to cause you to “conform” to his present situation. In other words, wretchedness loves company. "

How about this for truth: Cor hasn't funded. If anyone is looking at this blog for answers, understand that people have been given false information from Cor for years and they still haven't funded. It's hard not to scream fraud based on Cor's delays.

There is the truth for you!

by SeriouslyC'mon February 5, 2011 12:40 PM

Thank You DoOrDie and AMEN... by Cherub of Hope February 5, 2011 1:46 PM

Well Howdy Y'all

hey berto nice truck you got there boy I don't really like the color but anyone with a working mans truck . dang berto not bad for a dirtbag. And I stand corrected on one thing there are two of you here Howdy Mr Rivera Howdy boy. I must admit you boys had me going for awhile but I got ya now. What gave you away was the different wifi IP's in different states. Hey Art that was a right nice house in church hill. The boys over there on the farm are keepings tabs on you. by The fly February 5, 2011 2:48 PM

Hey Art

Can you help us out with something son. We can not for the life of us find a LTP for you anywhere why is that. And where are those hords of legal teams you and berto are pose to rain down on those that stand in Cor's way. Oh Oh!!!! I'm still waiting ready to go my wife got out my best card table I questioned that move I think she is trying to tell me to get rid of some things but she put on her best texas smile and said y'all want to look good on TV if'in y'all loose the bit. well sir that just put my horse in a fix thats her fav-o-rite saddle blanket and one of the guys in the office gave me some franks he puts that s@#t on everything. Hey Art file any good flight plans lately ?????? berto I got a kick out of the surman you gave glad to see your seeking god funny i'ts always when your in a world of hurt or like you going to jail for a looooooooooooooooooooooooong time you turn to god. In all the years i've been doing this that has been one of the few things that alway puzzled me. Hey berto when were taking you to lock up and have some time before we hand you over maybe you can explain that one to me. And for the Super Bowl There ain't No team like the Cowboys they just lost there way after Tom stoped coachin HaHaHa Y'all remember Tom that was when football was a sport not this glammer filled half played overpaid TV Show by The fly February 5, 2011 3:17 PM

Oooops

Art I got you and berto mixed up dang. I have one word for you Art Diet. before it'a all over cause they only let you out for an hour when your locked up by The fly February 5, 2011 8:05 PM

Well I've waited all day and by my watch it's 5pm est and Noooooooooooooooooooooo Funding. My horse is breathing a bit easier me I was never worried however the wife did want to see me take a big chew out of that ol blanket I wonder about her sometimes(LMAO) So I ask once again WHERE"S THE MONEY SHOW US THE MONEY)!!!!!! No well that's cause there ain't NONE!!!!! Come on boy's give it up turn yourselfs in pay off your collections and give back the money you have left to those folks you lied to. Oh Oh Told ya GO GREENBAY Them Boys where as hungry as a starving dog with a T-Bone Steak YEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAA now that was a whoppin. Berto Art turn yourselfs in and get it over with. I'll be waiting out front for ya berto just let me know when your ready I got time son. by The fly February 7, 2011 5:18 PM

Fly

Yeh, my Steelers didn't look sharp, Oh Well! Next year!

I looked at my friends initial contract with COR. Apparently it is a 6 month time frame.
There is a kind of Broker/Investor person, then they give you a Ranger. His 6 months is almost up not quite.
He did not receive any funding as of today. Thought he would have had something by last Friday! by DoNotBelieve February 7, 2011 5:33 PM

I heard that Cor is going to start sending out anniversary cards that read "It's been ____ months since we said that we were going to fund but don't worry, everything is done".

DNB, six months is nothing compared to the years that some have reported waiting. by SeriouslyC'mon February 7, 2011 7:31 PM

Well I'm sure those cards are going to be from a jail cell.

We have been closing in on berto and his par-ner in crime and I really do mean par-ner in crime Art Rivera ESQ(ROTFLMAO) Hey Art maybe you can give some great legal advice from the inside.

NoNotBeleive

Don't feel bad them ol boys played some foot ball damn!!

Well thats the bait then comes the hook and they reel you in. These guys work just like a terrorist cell small no one knows too much information and they all are strangers. All relying on the phone and internet to pass on instructions by phone only and to keep the marks at bay and calm as long as possible. by The fly February 7, 2011 8:59 PM

SCM

I get that, I just went back to look at the contract and it intially is for 6 months. I don't know if they renew or not. I read the beginning blogs, and people have waited two years...Why I am not quite sure?!
His wife is beginging to be suspicious and not believe,
I am amazed that anyone would believe any of this in the first place! They think this funding is going to bail them out. Now if someone gave you Millions of dollars for thousands of dollars of investment...What do you think they would want in return, more than a good business plan or project! Then what? More trouble, more debt! Just think about it...Get Real! by DoNotBelieve February 7, 2011 11:14 PM

Well

DoNotBeleive have you noticed anything different about the site lately. There are a few fellars missin here. Hummmmmm. Our intel is sol berto is shutting down shop and Art is pulling out. There network is sort of falling apart with the lack of information and growing discontent amoung the ranks. oh does your contract have a Villa park Illinois address or the 3 golf center one in hoffman estates ??? I would like to know also if there is another one. Thanks and this thing is about to come to a head soon. I'm saying for the last time to get your guy to ask for his money back. I know gthe money is gone or they are locked out of there accounts but give it a try non the less just for the sake of it by The fly February 8, 2011 12:56 PM

Fly, I understand that they have set up 'their own secure webstie'. How can we get in touch with you to add our complaints to the same authorities that you are talking to? by Waitedtoolong February 8, 2011 1:24 PM

Fly,
No one is gone. No one has run off. Just do not need to worry about some annonomous person claiming about false investigations, bs claims/civil suits. You are going to screw so many people here.
It is kinda funny that you are now telling people to take their money out. Do you have money invested?
Why do you care about other peoples money?
Who are you? There is less info on you than ALberto. But yet you have people believing in your claims.
True project partners are involved with what COR is doing and understand what is going on. If COR was in trouble, wouldn't they have run off by now? Took all of our money, that you claim they did, and went into hiding. But they are still here showing alot of progression (yes i know, not funding) but progressing to the point of funding.
You, I or nobody on this site knows how hard this whole process that COR has endured, but for you to keep making accusations, with out who or what you are, just shows me your lack of credibiltiy. by mdudd February 8, 2011 2:14 PM

Son

The only one screwing up people here is you and your little band of Crooks. You have lied to these people for so long you sad little man you are starting to beleive your own lie.

1. My claim boy the truth is just that there is no claim you shoot your own selfs each time you pull that funding is this week or the same old delaying BS.

2. There are and has never been any delays from any of the agencies you have claimed.

3. No matter what line of horse crap you try to slide across to those folks out there . Son any claim of the money you are pose to have or getting would have everyone around the world with Cor on there lips

4. You operate out of drop boxes NO one can reach anyone on your phones.

5. You have no EIN you are unknown to anyone in the banking world.

6.If they are or should I say you berto still here why won't you show those good folk the money. Cause there ain't none and you damn well know it.

listen you have homeland security breathing down your backs the FBI and IRS. You run a scam and a money laundering operation for terrorist by using these good peoples companies as shells and wire and transfer money all over the world.

You ask why I'm here to collect 5.4 Million from 2 clients and to put you dirtbags behind bars for three lifetimes.

You have lied and cause some good people to loose all they had thinking you were going to put them on someones board please.

When your file was droped in my lap it took all of 30 seconds to take the file. For me to keep making what boy what I said is the truth plain and simple. You toss out so much crap you can't help for steping in your own waste.

You make me laugh boy I have asked you ol boys of proof of funding and of DoOrDies so called funded project and nothing.I have simply directed the folk here on how to protect themselfs and report your scam.

THERE IS NO MONEY AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET THERE 20K BACK BEFORE YOU SHUT DOWN ALTOGETHER WELL GOOD FOR THEM. RUN AWAY MORE LIKE SLIDE BACK IN THE SLIM WHERE YOU OOZED OUT FROM.

by The fly February 8, 2011 3:28 PM

Waitedtolong

All you have to do is simply pick up the phone and contact the FBI explain that you are a victim of Cor and give them all of the contacts and there numbers also it is very important to let them know if you received your 20k back or you have given a 24/48 hour demand of funds return.

1. Demand your money back if they wish to delay that contact the local police and fill out a report.

2.Contact the FBI tell them everything from begining to end.

3.Contact a good attoney also report it to the Attorney generals Office.

4. File a civil suit for breach of contract don't let berto or art try to scare you claiming to take you to court hell thats where you want to be and they don't

5.Look for a good collection agency add up all you losses and send them after Cor.

This is your only way to attempt to recover any of your losses. If you do the above listed you will be assured to be added to the ever growing list of Victims of berto's and Cor's

If you know of anyone else direct them as well to follow suit also your so called Ranger as I have said from the interview I conducted with one of them they for the most part are just as much in the dark as you are. Have them FRun to the FBI and Local police and share there story before they get caught up in the big bust.

Hell I'm just a ol country boy that has a good heart and a real hard place for pond scum sucking lowlifes the likes of these verments

by The fly February 8, 2011 3:45 PM

The fly,
So you work for a collection agency? OMG that is too funny. You are one of those dirt bag, pieces of shit(fly makes sense) that call and haunt people making $3.00 dollars an hour. Now we are getting somewhere.
1) Please stop calling people SON or BOY. Makes you sound racist and I find that very offensive. Just shows your level of professionism.
2) You are a collector, why are you here looking for information? You should have top level security clearance (What a Joke). As much as a mall cop or security guard.
3) You calim homeland security, FBI, CIA, IRS, NASA, SPCA and any other federal agency that you can spell is after COR. Did you use your special plastic badge to find that out. Truth is the Feds are well aware of what is going on.
4) what happened to the 320 million in civil suits or is that next on your horizon.

There is a reason COR stays private, so idiots like you can't find them. I guess they are doing a real good job of that. I have never had a problem taliking with any member of COR, via phone or email.

Realality is that the only gripe any one has is that COR has not funded. That will soon change. You come here claiming your clients lost money, but not you, WOW THAT SEEMS TO BE A POPULAR THEME HERE. I would like to see someone come here and say they have invested 20k, and feel that they were ripped off. So far 2 people have publically pulled out, and got their money back.

FLY,
By the way, next time you claim you are flying somewhere, check the weather report, cause i find it pretty amazing that you were in an airport on Wed. Stuck there and somehow got out on Thurs, when the entire state was shut down..... by mdudd February 8, 2011 4:10 PM

Not only that mdudd, but he claims that he is in contact with federal authorities and two weeks ago they were going to throw everyone in the poky. – His words.

Let’s say that was the case, do you think they would allow this bungling idiot to broadcast it on the internet and to also allow him to integrate anyone. – Hell no! This insufferable fool has something more personal against COR and the only person he’s reeling in are people that have the same level of competency. At this point I can give a flea’s balls about anything they have to say, but I will bust their chops in helping others to understand.

by DoOrDie February 8, 2011 4:20 PM

interrogate not integrate.... Integrating is what he's doing with these other characters.

by DoOrDie February 8, 2011 4:34 PM

- mdudd

Nice catch on the airport lie. He claimed to be in Midway on Tuesday, the 1st at 7:08pm when all flights were cancelled till the afternoon of the 3rd.

Below is from Chicago Associated Press.

CHICAGO (AP) — Airlines say they're halting all flights in and out of Chicago's two major airports as a blizzard bears down on the city. Some don't expect to resume operations until Thursday.

O'Hare and Midway international airports are vital hubs and the cancelations are sure to have ripple effects nationwide.

Airlines flying in and out of Midway already had halted flights by midday Tuesday.

Straight jab to the throat!

by DoOrDie February 8, 2011 5:55 PM

x
Hey Dirtbag if'in you look at my entry will see the 1st that was tuesday boy.And i know just how the weather was I drove all the way out to Hoffmans estates and Villa park in the snow and back to the airport just in time to have the dang place shut down.

Once again you can't even read a time line boy thats why your going to jail. Your so dang caught up in your little scam and think you got all the answers well boy you don't and thats why I'm RIGHT and your wrong. By the way boy if you just have to know I flew in and out Chicago Midway on a private Hawker 800 if that means anything to you and before you try to make something of it the dang thing has been with the department for 10 years. We had a 1970 gulfstream but it seen some action let me tell you. As for the weather on friday it was fine to fly out. Oh when the air field was closed down we were asked to move over to the main airport area the private/commercial wasn't designed to handle the cold or have the food plus those good folks there needed to get home to there families

by The fly February 8, 2011 5:57 PM

Then you should have been taxied off the strip to your car not in the airport buying food. Come again Country. Tell us another one.

Dirtbag - LOL!

by DoOrDie February 8, 2011 6:04 PM

well boys howdy my fav-o-rite dirtbags it makes my heart feel warm to know the too of you are so concerned about my travel arrangements and my stay there in Chicago. But where were you after the dead line boys i looked for you monday. So whats next boys. I explained mine now explain yours Where is the money you stole and why haven't you turned yourselfs in and whay are you still trying to steal more . And why can't we find your law license Art and why is it there are no listings for you anywhere in the real business world berto and whats up with the latest BS your putting out about delaying yet again and berto why wont you pay those collection agencies that are calling and trying to serve you. by The fly February 8, 2011 6:09 PM

Just to let you know my company owns a Hawker 800SP. We flew it into Arlington for the big game.

I know they were not allowing any private planes into Midway until Friday.

Please tell us more! Please!

by DoOrDie February 8, 2011 6:10 PM

We are not concern. You are a liar and you have been exposed.

by DoOrDie February 8, 2011 6:13 PM

You ain't listen boy get the duck butter out of your ears and eyes boy. I said I got stuck at the airport not on the airfield dang son you are trying i will give you that. You see the difference between me and you son is when I say something here I can back it up and prove it where as you boy got nothing but lies and can't tell the truth if it was written down for you to say. Oh there was this very nice gal from the city askin cause traffic was so bad we just made it to the main termals by shuttle bus good try Dritbag good try

by The fly February 8, 2011 6:16 PM

I tell you what; when this is said and done, good or bad, I will be still standing. All I want you to do is man up and come forth. Then I will show you whose the dirtbag.

My name is Don Dierks.

by DoOrDie February 8, 2011 7:21 PM

Well berto or art or whatever you want to call yourself. Once again you tickle me son you have the gall to ask me to man up when you have been hiding behind this scam for over 3 years. taking these folks money promising them Millions in return and have not a pot to piss in nor a window to toss it out of. You won't answer your phones you have other do your dirt work for you lying to them claiming they will sit on the board of these vast companies and rake in money beyond there wildest dreams and they have never seen you know where you operate from or the truth your a lying low life theift But you want me to man up Hot damn boy I have given you every chance in the book to prove my wrong to show the smallest sign of proof that you and your honey wagan of crooks are legit.The last offer was to show something and I was willing to eat my horses saddle blanket on live TV and say i was wrong but what happen you would think at a chance like that you would be all over it like a duck on a june bug but not a peep and you have the nerver to try to discredit my little trip to Chicago Boy if you weren't so damn sad I would say you had a brass pair but nope you and your's are just sad little crooks and yes the name fits DIRTBAG by The fly February 8, 2011 8:25 PM

You nor your so called company dont own jack you lying sack if i said we flew in on a Exec 727 you would have claimed that as well. Your lies are getting more and more sadder day by day and the good folk here can see that as well. And If you once again look at my post you will find it was Friday boy after 3pm the skys were clear most of the way home it did get a little bumpy over st louis but clear flying all the way home. And your Name is or the opne you are using is Art(pose to be a lawyer)Rivera AKA Dirtbag Number #2. you see you are so wraped up in your little Cor Scam lies you can't get a regular lie stright now if you said you were on a hawker or seen one or even cleaned out one I would have given you that one but all of a sudden your company owns one. Boy you can't discredit the truth and you can only BS these folk for so long before they wake up and see you for what you really are a sad little person that makes a living stealing and lying to others. Thats not bad thats just sad boy just plain sad by The fly February 8, 2011 8:42 PM

Email me your contact number and I will tell you what you want to hear and I will email you what you need to see.

by DoOrDie February 8, 2011 8:44 PM

Here is my email addy: dondierksbuilders@gmail.com

Since you think I'm Alberto, here is your chance to talk to me. You have nothing to lose Mr. Investigator. After we talk, you can come back and share with everyone the conversation we had.

Unlike DoNotBelieve, he has to stay behind the scene, but you are independent; nothing for you to be afraid of. Come on let us talk.

by DoOrDie February 8, 2011 9:05 PM

Look son just give yourself up and save us a whole lot of time and trouble. Just make it quick and simple boy. Pick up the phone dial 911 tell them your real name that you are one of the lying theiving low life Dirtbags from Cor and don't forget to tell them the FBI has a file on Cor and all of the AKA's and there are a small army of collection agencies and Private investigators looking for you and have them just pick you up it's over. You want to get all Saturday Night Cowboy pound on your chest when your feelings get hurt awwwwwwwwwww sorry boy you should have thought about that when you lied to all those that are Cor Victims and have waited only to learn that they were dupped that there never was any money and never will be and that all your Updates are just another in a long line of lies after another. Now you want to grow some horns son please don't waste my time. Man up Pay up and fess up boy it's over. Tell all those So Called rangers you are also lying to that this is just a lie and that there is nothing to be gained. And now you want me to E-mail you not thats funny son thats real funny by The fly February 8, 2011 9:08 PM

Sure lets talk turn yourself in and I'll be right there we can talk as long as you want I will sit there as you explain it all.Son I'm not afraid of the likes of you or any of your scum sucking band. As I said before I have hauled badder menn to jail my day and son you don't even rate as a breaking a sweat. Sad boy your just sad just sad . You lie and when you get caught in your lies you try to discredit folks and when that don't work then you try to threaten folks. whats next you fall on the floor stompin and kickin awwwwwww boy you need one of those time out things. Well we have a nice quiet cell for you to calm down in for the next life time or so. by The fly February 8, 2011 9:22 PM

That's what I figured. Full of shit.

by DoOrDie February 8, 2011 9:24 PM

Boy, you guys sure have been busy...I have one evening meeting and all Hell breaks loose!
Did see some messages today. Same old BS.
Working hard to catch up, schedules are being completed, then wire transfers to follow, but of course not done yet, Alberto hard at work! Disbursements coming straight from Alberto, but Ranger doesn't know when, in progress but not completed. Want to get funding started as soon as possible...etc.etc.etc.
SOUND FAMILIAR? by DoNotBelieve February 8, 2011 9:34 PM

your funny

Oh I stand corrected and you have my wife to thank for that one. it was the 3rd I return home as she pointed out I called her that morning telling her that they were going to reopen the field at about 8 or 9 am We were on the taxi way and in the air at 10am home 1pm. I tell you If it wasn't for her I would forget my head some morning. I am the first to admit when I am wrong and I stand corrected on the time line on that one. But that still doesn't change the fact your a lying cheating theivin Dirtbag. Oh flys love crap you see how easy it was to find you and your bunch yummmmmmmmm by The fly February 8, 2011 9:46 PM

That sure narrows you down. Thanks yellow

by DoOrDie February 8, 2011 9:49 PM

yep same ol lie same ol delay and same ol BS berto wants me to log into a blind e-mail account and then he thinks he will either flood my account with e-mails or try to hack it this boy is just plain sad by The fly February 8, 2011 9:52 PM

By the way, I think my friend invested more than $20,000
I am not positive on that though. by DoNotBelieve February 8, 2011 9:52 PM

- The fly

You are trying too hard to explain yourself. You have been busted in a lie. So let it go.

- And yes, you are scared. You claim to have flown to Chicago looking for COR and you think I'm Colon, so here I am. Give me your number and I will call you. Convince me by phone to turn myself in. I'm sure you can do that.

by DoOrDie February 8, 2011 9:55 PM

Yeh, narrowed down to hundreds of people.
That is if you are referring to me. Although last time I looked I wasn't yellow! by DoNotBelieve February 8, 2011 9:56 PM

Why are you afraid of me hacking you? You are looking for me. I'm Colon right? Screw the email. Give a number to call you.

by DoOrDie February 8, 2011 9:57 PM

have him report it to the police and to the IRS as well.Now back to the dirtbag i was talkin with

Narrows me where son I ain't been narrow in years boy part due to marriage dang the wife can cook Yes sir part due to eatting junk food waiting out dirtbags like you and there's age and just good ol fasion good living.I try to get a work out once a week or sooo LOL by The fly February 8, 2011 9:57 PM

DoOrDie,

The fly has been swatted. Splat......... by mdudd February 8, 2011 9:59 PM

- mdudd

You see how quickly the table has turned. I gave him an opportunity to be the hero and he chicken out. Him and Mikey are yellow.

by DoOrDie February 8, 2011 10:10 PM

Who is Mikey? by DoNotBelieve February 8, 2011 10:12 PM

HAHAHAHA.... LMAO....

by DoOrDie February 8, 2011 10:14 PM

I still don't get it...What am I missing here?
The only Mikey I remember did the cereal ad on TV. by DoNotBelieve February 8, 2011 10:26 PM

- DoNotBelieve

Don't concern yourself about it. You have gave yourself away a long time ago.

by DoOrDie February 8, 2011 10:35 PM

So you think...You could never find out who I am. I live in Arizona remember! And I remind you of your Ex-wife...now that is Funny! by DoNotBelieve February 8, 2011 10:39 PM

First of all, I don't care who you are, COR does.

Stay behind the scenes all you want. I was told you were identified and clearly that is bothering you. I really hope you are a partner that has been identified.

You remind me of a woman period.

by DoOrDie February 8, 2011 10:53 PM

DoOrDie,

The fly has nothing. He was a person who had his project REJECTED BY COR. Now wants to screw people. Telling everyone to get their money out, so they could be in the same boat.
Sad to say, people actually are listening to him. Why i have no idea.
I would just hate to be that person that pulls their money out so late in the game. Might as well go buy a gun and end it, cause they will be sorry. by mdudd February 8, 2011 11:00 PM

Good for COR!
They don't know either!
As for the Women part, I am going to use your term LMAO!! by DoNotBelieve February 8, 2011 11:03 PM

MDUDD

So late in the game...Most of the people on this site have been waiting over TWO Years!! What's with that? by DoNotBelieve February 8, 2011 11:05 PM

No one is listening to that fool, but these few idoits. The only project partner in the bunch is DoNotBelieve. And I don't care if he get cut or not. He rides that fence too hard.

by DoOrDie February 8, 2011 11:08 PM

DOD

You are so in the dark and uninformed...No wonder you are still hanging on with COR promises! by DoNotBelieve February 8, 2011 11:29 PM

DOD

And what does DonDierksBuilders build? False hopes and broken promises! by DoNotBelieve February 8, 2011 11:31 PM

If that's the case let me and the rest hang. Get the hell out of here. We don't need your two cents. And take the lying investigator with you.

by DoOrDie February 8, 2011 11:32 PM

Starting to get to you now, you are getting a little testy! Not going away...want to see you hang! by DoNotBelieve February 8, 2011 11:35 PM

Why do you want to know? Now, you in my business. Just like a female.

by DoOrDie February 8, 2011 11:35 PM

Far from testy. I am actually enjoying this.

I have interest in this so that's why I'm hanging. And you hanging because of what again?

by DoOrDie February 8, 2011 11:37 PM

You sound like you really hate females, must have been a really bad marriage you got out of...Lot of hate there!
Probably took you for a bundle!
Maybe that is why you need COR for money to rebuild! by DoNotBelieve February 8, 2011 11:38 PM

I love females. As a matter of fact, If you are not one and have one, I can take yours with my petty cash. And if you are one, I'm sure you are missing the wood pretty badly by now.

by DoOrDie February 8, 2011 11:46 PM

DOD

To quote you,"Not even close", on either count! by DoNotBelieve February 9, 2011 9:30 AM

DNB,
You have two choices:
1) Believe the fly and other people who do not have cash involved, like yourself, people that have found legimate funding sources and moved on and every other excuse for being here.
2) Believe people who have THEIR money invested. We have been through the growing pains, and the evolution of something, that really no one here has an idea of how hard and time consuming it is for COR to do.

Keep in mind, NO ONE was ever asked for an upfront fee..
Every one had a choice to make after their project was accepted. Too take the plunge or too walk away.

Also see above blogger who got their deposit back. Why would COR do that if this was BS.

Yes i am well aware of how long this process has taken. I still see progression. Yes it is taking longer than expected and there have been bumps in the road, but they are still moving forward.
If this was not going to happen, there would be no more updates, no one too talk to, nobody here on this blog. They would have hightailed out of here a long time ago taking our money. .

Just a bit of advice, Do not tell your "friend" to pull his money out. Because if you are right, and it does not happen (I do not think that) you have nothing to gain and they will be in the same boat (20k probably will not help him), but if you are wrong, you will really have ruined your friendship, and will be to blame for a long time. Like you said, "your friend" was desperate before COR and desperate people do stupid things. by mdudd February 9, 2011 9:42 AM

MDUDD

Up front fee: The return on this $20,000 or so, whatever is the amount is too good to be true. Why would anyone give you millions for that? And what are they asking back down the road, especially if the so called project fails?

Returning deposit: Cor doesn't want any trouble from people who want their deposit back, so of course if they want out, they will give it back. Because if not those people would just cry fraud as some have done.

Progression: The progression is all in words and delays as it has been for over two years...where's the money?

Updates: COR updates to keep everybody hanging in there, using their money for what, I am not sure.

I have discussed this with other very intelligent business people who have companies worth Millions of dollars and not one is buying it, infact one told my friend up front COR was no good, don't get involved!

I was told he invested more than $20,000, but I can't say for sure. He is desperate and that is what concerns me, he is in denial, doesn't he think COR eventually wants something in return, and at what price? Besides the Broker who originally got him involved in the first place!

What about all these indictments for these COR people, these are real and verified. One is out of jail on $500,000 bail, for doing the same thing before in a different state, this is not BS, this is real life!

A Ranger admitted that Alberto needs to pay 50 Million dollars in penalties,I don't know what for, but where is that coming from?

It is all Smoke and Mirrors! by DoNotBelieve February 9, 2011 10:37 AM

DNB,

It took a little while, but now i see what your angle is:
Your friend wanted you to be involved (as a partner). After talking to your buisness savy friends, you decided not to do it. Your "friend" decides to not listen to you and sends in the money. This is why your are soooooo negative. You hope and pray that funding never happens. And to top it all off, your friend has no idea that you are on this blog. He talks to you and asks advice, shows you info and updates, and you cannot wait to run here and post your negative comments....

DoOrDie,
Think i got DNB too...

Now onto your comments:
1)Since you now how this type of funding works. Please explain. You and your buisness savy buddies have no clue how this works.. As for a project failing, what does the contract say. BY the way, if you or your friend think the project is going to fail (maybe you are secretly hoping) than either of you should not be invlolved.

2)So they return your money if you ask. That screams SCAM, too funny. Look at what public companies are doing. Let me give you a actual scam, People are trying to refinance thier homes. They are contact by mortgage brokers, who say they can do it. You give them an upfront fee (fed Flag... never pay anybody an upfront fee...) a month later they come back to you and say sorry they couldnot do the refinance. You are out of your fee and they keep doing buisness. That is a SCAM..

3) as for progression. No one has run off, no one is hiding. Actually your friend is still getting updates.
If they were going to take your frineds money, they would have done it already. Disappeared with all of our deposits. Never to be heard from again. This is not happneing. You yourself have seen the updates. you think excuses and delays, I think progression (Remember I understand what is going on, while you have no clue)...

Look for part 2 later on.... and i will respond to your other remarks... by mdudd February 9, 2011 3:17 PM

MDUDD

You really have it all wrong.
I am not a partner, never wanted to be a partner!
I would never give money to a group like COR, with all the underlying issues which surround them and the people who are involved with them. Arrest warrants don't lie.
Indictments are real.

I didn't tell him not to get involved, it was other business people with far more business experience than I have. They were approched by COR at some time,they investigated and found nothing but red flags. They wouldn't need COR anyway. They buy and sell companies all the time. Multi million dollar conglomerate, COR approched them because COR knew they did this kind of buying and selling. They told COR to get lost!

COR apparently returned somebody's money on the blog...Yes to avoid Fraud charges.

He is getting up dates, the same BS everyone has gotten on this blog for years. I think what COR does is your money for their own purposes, keep people involved as long as they can using their money, and if someone finally gets so disgusted they want out, COR has no recourse but to return the initial deposit. Or like in any Ponzi Scheme, you payout to the oldest investor with the newest investor's money...and start again. by DoNotBelieve February 9, 2011 4:19 PM

There is the sentence of the day GET LOST!!!!!!Blog is not a year old, by the way.

Please do me a favor and do not try to analize what is happening here. I gave you to much credit. Because you have no clue...

So since you have no interest, were not or have not been a partner. Than get a life and leave.... GET LOST!!!!!! by mdudd February 9, 2011 6:15 PM

I know how to make everyone get lost...get Cor to fund! Until then, you've earned the doubt and criticism!

I would like to clear a few points up the fact you are not running is pure BS you haven't been to your Drops boxes in quit awhile now. Your Work force of Dopes AKA Rangers are leaving everyday and yea yea I know they can are are in some cases being replaced.

You have no location for anyone to walk in and talk or to review there project.

You lie with each update or statement you pas on to your kites.

And as for over explaining Well don't that just take the paint off the wall damn boy I at lease own up to my mistakes. You clowns were so busy thying to pick apart my little trip you got tangled in your own barb wire.

You tell these good folks they hav no idea how hard it is to do what you do but you don't have the common to do. To fess up to your own shortcomings and the fact you never had the money in the first place you just tell one lie after another and expect these folks to just keep holding on to the lie as fact.

I called you two dirtbags my mistake thats giving dirtbags all over the world a bad name your SLAG that sums it up.

No funds available today another govermental delay Oh I know the DTCC wait the SEC NO its the bad ol man from the IRS.

You know SLAG 1 and SlAG 2 These good folk here all had and have a life . The fact they as well as others caught you crooks proves that right there and the fact your mad shows you can't take the heat.

Okay here's how Cor's scam works the 20k so called intake fee is wired to a blind bank account and once they have milked all the marks they can and the to avoid suspect from the bank and other Agencies and a back trace they close the account. If you would like to test this just have your friend's bank back trace the wired funds and you will see the account has been long closed . Now Cor's will tell you oh well we changed banks and give some BS line but the fact is the fact it's BS

And as for the small little band of SLAGs that are Cor they are and have been living very nicely on the hopes and dreams of those that trusted them to come thur with what they claimed to be able to.

Hey Hey SLAG I got a buddy that lives in Arlington VA off key bridge I'll be visiting him next week. We got this BS training thing in quantico and if'in you still wanta test my grit boy! Well just let me know and this ol boy here will be there with spar's a jangin

by The fly February 9, 2011 9:02 PM

DoNotBeleive

Our Investigation of Cor all 5 of them is ove and I will be moving on to a new case. However I will be lookin in on you guys for the next fer weeks. As I siad before have your friend try to get his money back I don't think they will be able to cause there is no money but on a hopeful note from what we have gotten out of our interview with one of the major players. They hold some money for refunds not much cause they are spending more then they are taking in and there was the inside fighting thing last year.

But you hold in there little lady and all will be over soon. Have your friend talk to the law and to go to the FBI as well.

We have been sending them out to all of the drop sites Cor has listed in there so called contract. And don't forget to have your friend report the fee on there Taxes this is another way to track Cor and to protect your friend.

Good luck with recovering any of your friends money back and hang in there.

I'll be lookin in and those ol varments will get there's by The fly February 9, 2011 9:17 PM

This dumb ass bill collector got more shit with him. Get lost with your lying ass. You have been made. This fool cannot for the life of him put two words together that make sense.

by DoOrDie February 9, 2011 9:26 PM

He flew in on a private plane after we bust his lying dumb ass.

by DoOrDie February 9, 2011 9:29 PM

MUDD

You misunderstood me, I didn't mean the Blog was a year old, I meant there are people on this Blog that have been dealing with all this for years.

You never did address any of the other statements about the indictments, the Ranger out on bail, for ponzi schemes. $50 million in penalties. These are all public knowledge. You can't deny they exist. However I do not know what the $50 million in penalties is for, it did come from a Ranger however.

Explain with all that how you could think COR is a legitimate group.

P.S. I am not going away or getting lost! by DoNotBelieve February 9, 2011 9:42 PM

SeriouslyC'mon
No funding done around here, about where you are?
More good excuses though!

MDUDD
I may not have money invested...but you can believe this I am interested! by DoNotBelieve February 9, 2011 9:57 PM

Yeah right! Keep claiming to be some weird enthusiast that loves to get involved with others’ business. Stick with that story.

by DoOrDie February 9, 2011 10:01 PM

DNB,

You said it Ranger out on bail. Not a key member of COR. A Ranger. Yes he is out on bail, that is public knowledge. But he is yet to be convicted, so he is still innocent.

50 million is penalties. I have no knowledge of that. Again it came from your ranger. There is no other mention of it here or anywhere. So i find that hard to believe.

Kind of funny how you bash one ranger,but yet hold another in high regard.

By the way, it is amazing how many updates you get. I hope your friend is not emailing to you. (That is against the disclaimer attatched to the emails and could get you and your boy in a bit of legal trouble....)

Again, The only thing left to do is to fund... Thats it. There is no more analizing. There is no more secret information. No more dirt to be brought up. Nothing!!!!
COR is working hard to get this done. They have not dissapeared or gone into hiding because of the FLy. They continue to work to accomplish their goal.
Truthfully, you should get your boy's money out. So you can leave. You serve no purpose here. You partner the FLY has flown off.
SC,
You are right. Once the funding has started, This blog will go silent..... by mdudd February 9, 2011 10:27 PM

This entire forum thread has been a gross perversion of the English language. The amount of personal and unprofessional banter appearing here is deplorable. It has been unsettling and even disturbing to read through this information looking for something of value. Many assumptions have been made in regards to the legitimacy of the Lenders. I have yet to see any concrete evidence in this forum to suggest that the Lender is legitimate or not. Assuming innocence until guilt is proven serves to protect the accused. This idea of presumed innocence is regarded as fair and reasonable by the US legal system. Giving the benefit of the doubt to the Lender is reasonable as long as there is open communication and verifiable information exchanged. If you have paid monies to a party who you have never personally met you will have little or no recourse should the person defraud you. If there is any truth to the accusations here than I can only help but feel deeply for those who have been defrauded. If there is to be justice it will be in the immediate capture and interrogation of the Lender by a private party.

To the borrowers and real business people: My condolences to you and your networks. To zoom out for a moment and realize that this economic stimulation is supposed to provide opportunity for the little people, shame on all of you capitalists who forget about Main St. by WakeUpNow February 9, 2011 10:37 PM

I take full responsibility for my part in the mockery and if there was any other way to converse with these jesters it would have been so.

Thank you for your candor.

by DoOrDie February 9, 2011 11:02 PM

DOD
You should take responsibility...you mock more people than anybody and use profanity like it is an everyday accurance. Even in your apology you are calling people jesters.
MUDD
You are totally wrong...I don't hold any Ranger in high regard.
WUN
I think being arrested and put in jail, getting out on a $500,000.00 cash bail is a pretty serious matter.The charge being defrauding people of millions of dollars and running a ponzi scheme, sound familiar? I don't think the District Attorney or State's Attorney General, would be doing such a thing on a whim. Look up for yourself. by DoNotBelieve February 9, 2011 11:15 PM

The facts still remain. Too bad you are everything I suggested you are.

by DoOrDie February 9, 2011 11:28 PM

If you would have researched the net a little longer, you would have discovered the bail was reduced to $50,000. I’m sure the Ranger was release on a surety bond for a mere $5,000. There are still a few facts that you have yet to reveal about the alleged claims.

I understand that this Ranger is a good and honorable man and that’s why COR has entrusted him to be part of their team.

by DoOrDie February 9, 2011 11:49 PM

DoNotBelieve
"I think being arrested and put in jail, getting out on a $500,000.00 cash bail is a pretty serious matter.The charge being defrauding people of millions of dollars and running a ponzi scheme, sound familiar? I don't think the District Attorney or State's Attorney General, would be doing such a thing on a whim. Look up for yourself."

Are you referring to the comment that I made regarding how to deal with the Lender? I mention justice but in no way do I believe that the District Attorney or State's Attorney General deal in matters of justice. I suggested a sequestering of the Lender and an interrogation by a private party. Please elaborate as to which State and which District you are referring to and provide me with at least one fact or detail that will allow me to take your instruction to look "it" up for myself seriously. You mention the "it". I am not a psychic.

by WakeUpNow February 9, 2011 11:49 PM

WUPN

Sorry I forgot you were new to the site.

Check out on this site Blog dated Dec.10 by Tim Bieser.
He names people associated with or invlved with COR. I believe he field a complaint against them, I am not sure.

Check out Jan.6 blog from DNB.
All I really did was Google some of the names, it is amazing what you can find out in such a short time.

That should get you started on some information you were asking about. by DoNotBelieve February 10, 2011 12:34 PM

DOD
The bail on this Ranger was quite clear according to the articles published above. It was $500,000 cash. His Attorney was even saying he would have to sell assets to come up with the money. Check the article.

If you call scamming people out of millions of dollars, most of which were on the elderly side..."A GOOD and HONORABLE MAN", just the kind of person COR is looking for, the Ranger that is, then there is really something wrong with you. You are a misguided soul.

by DoNotBelieve February 10, 2011 12:44 PM

Let me help...

I don't know if the SEC case below is related to the current charges against Haugen but the conclusions of the court are damning. It looks like the current charges that everyone is talking about above are in addition to this previous conviction.

Here is the release from the Securities and Exchange Commission:

U.S. SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Litigation Release No. 21429 / March 3, 2010
Securities and Exchange Commission v. Ross Owen Haugen, Civil Action No. 1:09-CV-0129 (ND Ga.)
The Securities and Exchange Commission ("Commission") announced today that the Honorable Orinda D. Evans, United States District Judge for the Northern District of Georgia, entered final judgment on February 17, 2010 (with a later amendment thereto) against defendant Ross Owen Haugen ("Haugen") of Minneapolis, Minnesota. The judgment arises from an order granting the Commission's motion for summary judgment against Haugen, which also ordered that he pay disgorgement in the amount of $1,242,742.79, with prejudgment interest thereon in the amount of $125,316.63. The amended final judgment dated February 25, 2010, further ordered Haugen to pay a civil penalty in the amount equal to his ordered disgorgement. Haugen had previously been permanently enjoined from future violations of Section 17(a) of the Securities Act of 1933, and Sections 10(b) and 15(a) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 and Rule 10b-5 thereunder, in an order entered on February 5, 2009.

The Court made significant findings of fact and conclusions of law in the final judgment and amended final judgment against Haugen. Specifically, the Court concluded that Haugen engaged in fraud in connection with sales of securities interests in four offerings identified as Coadum Capital Fund 1, LLC ("Coadum 1"), Coadum Capital Fund II, LP ("Coadum II"), Coadum Capital Fund III, LP ("Coadum III") and Mansell Acquisition Company LP ("MAC"). Approximately $30 million was raised from investors in the four offerings from early 2006 through January 2008. The Court also concluded that Haugen while acting as vice president of sales and marketing for Coadum Advisors, Inc. ("Coadum"), served as the primary salesman for the offerings on behalf of Coadum and Mansell Capital Partners III, LLC ("Mansell").

In its final judgment, the Court found that Haugen directly solicited and sold more than 50% of the Coadum securities in the offerings. The private placement memoranda for the four offerings ("PPMs"), all of which made similar representations, described an investment objective involving "risk-controlled" strategies consisting of purchasing AA or better rated securities at one price, and simultaneously selling the securities at a higher price, generating a profit on the price difference, which Coadum and Mansell referred to as "commercial trading programs." Coadum and Mansell invested the majority of the funds through a Malta based "investment platform" which in turn invested the funds in related entities which never began operation or provided any returns. Further, Coadum and Mansell falsely represented in monthly account statements to investors that the investors had been earning approximately four percent per month and that all or most of the investors' principal was in escrow. The Court found that Haugen told investors, falsely, that their investment principal was risk free, insured and never left the escrow account or was otherwise guaranteed against loss. In fact, Haugen knew that investors' funds were being invested in off-shore trading programs. Moreover, although the PPMs represented that no commissions were paid on the investments and that the promoters were compensated based on a percentage of earnings, Haugen personally was paid substantial commissions from investor funds prior to earnings on those funds, which never occurred. This is a companion case to SEC v. Coadum Advisors, Inc., et al., Civil Action File No. 1:08-CV-0011-ODE (N.D. Ga.), a civil action filed on an emergency basis on January 3, 2008.

Doesn't look good for Cor now does it? I hope that they didn't "invest" with Ross to come up with the money that they have promised everyone. by SeriouslyC'mon February 10, 2011 12:49 PM

May, 28, 2010

District Judge sets bail high $500,000 cash only for...
Exact words from article. by DoNotBelieve February 10, 2011 12:56 PM

SCMON

Thanks for the help.
I knew about the other charges, but it is alot to get into. They are in addition to the above charges. by DoNotBelieve February 10, 2011 1:09 PM

DNB, SC,

This is all public knowledge. You guys make it seem like it is something new. Why, because someone is new to the site?
Let him/her do their own research. It was not that hard to find.
Where does it say "COR" or any of their key people other than the ranger? Oh thats right guilty by association.

BY THE WAY, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE FLY?
He starts all this shit and runs away.
There is no federal investigation. There are no Civil Suits. The IRS is not investigating. Just more lies from people who have hidden agendas.

by mdudd February 10, 2011 1:52 PM

As I stated last night. If you would have researched the net a little longer, you would have discovered this.

Published June 03 2010
Haugen Posts Bond In Fraud Case

By: Cassie Walder, WDAZ

Haugen Posts Bond A former Grand Forks stockbroker charged with defrauding people in Walsh County out of millions is out of jail on a reduced bond.

Thursday a Walsh County judge reduced Ross Haugen's $500,000 bond to $50,000. He posted bond and is out of jail.

by DoOrDie February 10, 2011 1:58 PM

- mdudd

Leave that fool where he is. We busted his lying bubble. You will read more about him in the true light here shortly.

by DoOrDie February 10, 2011 2:01 PM

DOD

Like to see that article, where can I find it?
I don't think the original was Walsh County. Let me know.
Don't know where the FLY is...didn't you read his message a couple of days ago. Please don't tell me now you think I am him also, let's see, I have been a Partner, a Ranger, a Broker, an investor, a disgruntled Projct Partner, an ex wife Female, Mikey, have I missed anyone? by DoNotBelieve February 10, 2011 2:10 PM

It was Wlas county.
However it said, :The $50,000 bail was for the initial charges. So ther are so many charges who knows what!

Can also check out:
Investors WatchDog, there is an article titled, "What
About the Ponzi Salesmen."
He is mentioned in the article, and by some people who new him and worked with him. by DoNotBelieve February 10, 2011 2:20 PM

It is actually:

Investor's Watchdog by DoNotBelieve February 10, 2011 2:22 PM

Case and point. It's on the internet.

Let me help you with some internet surfing 101. Copy a few key words from what I sent you and place it in your search engine and watch the magic begin.

by DoOrDie February 10, 2011 2:24 PM

When it gets to sites like that, it becomes imprecise.

by DoOrDie February 10, 2011 2:27 PM

If Cor doesn't fund soon, you guys will see everyone's name in writing. It will be in the box marked "Plantiff". by SeriouslyC'mon February 10, 2011 2:32 PM

DOD

You did not read my next message. I don't need any internet lessons. I know you think you are superior to everyone else here, of course you also think the Ranger in question is a good and honorable man, your words not mine! According to you that is why COR entrusted him for their team. Boy that sure would make me feel good if I was invested with COR and he was my Ranger...NOT!

SC'mon

You got that right! by DoNotBelieve February 10, 2011 5:10 PM

DOD

The information is only imprcise as you call it, when it goes against your company line. by DoNotBelieve February 10, 2011 5:25 PM

For the record; I do not think I'm superior over anyone. I just don't like YOU. I think you are a yellow (the one you missed) lying piece of crap. You are riding the fence and when it is all said and done, your "close friend (you)" will be left out in the cold.

by DoOrDie February 10, 2011 5:36 PM

I would like to add that I do not know the Ranger in questioned to give such accolades, but I do know that the Ranger is assigned to your “close friend”.

by DoOrDie February 10, 2011 5:48 PM

DOD

Oh yes, I forgot yellow, you are so good at name calling.
For the 100th time it is not me invested. A Ranger is a Ranger... They are all the same to me.
I can't be left out in the cold because I have no skin in the game. My money has better places to be, than waiting for funding from COR.
Do you really think if I had money invested I would say the things I have and feel the way I do...I don't think so.

You gave the Ranger those acolades in your message,Feb. 9th at 11:49. You said, you understand he is, I guess now we will be into symantecs. by DoNotBelieve February 10, 2011 6:12 PM

DOD

For anybody that does have that Ranger...I would be even more worried! by DoNotBelieve February 10, 2011 6:20 PM

All of this fear mongering is quite suspicious. by WakeUpNow February 10, 2011 6:34 PM

- WakeUpNow

Please sure your suspicious.

by DoOrDie February 10, 2011 6:54 PM

Opps, suspicion... Needed to fix that before teacher corrects me.

by DoOrDie February 10, 2011 6:56 PM

DoOrDie

You are paranoid.

by WakeUpNow February 10, 2011 7:13 PM

DOD

What does " Please sure your suspicion" mean?
It doesn't make sense. by DoNotBelieve February 10, 2011 7:21 PM

WUPN

DOD is paranoid , cause he is on pins and needles, waiting for that Funding! by DoNotBelieve February 10, 2011 7:23 PM

WakeUpNow

Did you get enough information today to catch up on the situation? by DoNotBelieve February 10, 2011 7:25 PM

LOL!!!

For from paranoid.

- DoNotBelieve
Quick kissing up looking an ally.

I'm only on the blog to counter any lies - period.

It should have read, "Please share your suspicion". - Assuming that you were directing the fear mongering at the naysayers.

by DoOrDie February 10, 2011 7:55 PM

Howdy y'all

Hey Slag 1 and Slag 2 You once again missed the mark I'm Not a bill collector. Dang boy you would have thought you would have gotten it by now and by the way it wasn't a Private if you would once again look at the post you will see I said (THE DEPARTMENT USED TO HAVE A 1970 GULFSTREAM) To put it in words you can understand (THE TAX PAYERS OWN IT BOY!!) that would narrow down the field as to what Department/agency I work for. You just mad cause you shot before the rabbit ran out of the bushes.

The best info is yet to come out on Cor. It's funny the Name of Alberto and Artemio have been run thur a few data bases and some very interesting findings.

1. Of all the listing for Mr Colon there is NO IRS Filing that fits his age and so called business venue

2. There are 25 death listing for Alberto Colon of all the ones living we have accounted for as for the ones deceased there has been some activity concerning 2 Hummm

3.We have looked thur all of the listing and LTP for Attoney's In VA,DC or anywhere for that matter there is no listing or bar exam, filing for Mr Art Rivera

Now i am sure that Slag 1 and Slag 2 Will make something of this but the facts remain all of this can be accessed online. Thats right boys the place you hide and steal from can also be the place that turns the table on your lying cheating BS.

Oh Oh Oh has funding started yet or is there yet another delay.

Hey boys Question do you really think Ross is going to go down on this one all alone. I have it he's cutting a deal and copping a plea. Lots of luck Boys by The fly February 10, 2011 8:01 PM

The fly is swarming. OMG he works for the IRS. No wonder why I think he eats shit. Wasn't COR supposed to be in jail already. This whole thing over. You were supposed to expose the secret world. So far the only thing you have proven is how much of an ASSHOLE you are.
You can't spell IRS never mind working for them.

DNB,

Wow no info from your ranger in a couple of days. You must be freaking out. No gossip to spread.

BTW, if you are even considering the fly is for real, You need to get your head examined...... by mdudd February 10, 2011 8:09 PM

Hey Slag

Now thats funny your here just to counter lies when you are the one spreading 100% of the lies here.

You are a work of art boy you lie about lying and then you claim to be here to counter the lies you and the other slag told.

You twist the truth and pray on others and when your caught or called on the BS that flows from your mouth like river of sewage you get mad and try to disprove or bully others here.

You are a sad excuse of a human being and your end is quickly approching. Can you hear the train coming boy your standing there on the track and it's bareing down on you boy. I see bars in your future and i don't mean gold bars just them prison bars and the numbers you will be telling folks about won't be Millions or Billions just your inmate number

by The fly February 10, 2011 8:12 PM

No sir I don't work for the IRS I just pay my taxes .But I will give you this and leave it at that.

sig

Now go fishing slag by The fly February 10, 2011 8:17 PM

Fly or should i say SON,
You have no idea. Go fly into a windshield. You have been caught in too many lies. You are not creditable. I thought u had a new client. Maybe somebody lost a dog or a cockarooch you pet detective. YEAH BOYYYYYY!!!!!!!

by mdudd February 10, 2011 8:20 PM

Boy Cor Is going to jail one dirtbag at a time ross then you and then the others.

I have no creditablity Boy you ain't made good on one of your Funding claims or any of the BS you and the other clown is. You show no proof of any claim you make and when asked to prove your claims you retreat. Yous sorry excuse of life please spare me spare us all here.

You just don't get it boy. by The fly February 10, 2011 8:37 PM

Opps Again....

looking for an ally.

I'm trying to do too much at one time.

My apologies.

- mdudd
You handle the liar. I'm done with him.

Checkmate!

by DoOrDie February 10, 2011 8:40 PM

Fly (pet detective),
I have no reason to show any proof. The only proof i need is that no one has run off. no one is hiding.
You want proof of funding. WHY? Everyone is going to jail. Go find another piece of shit to hoover around. If you have not noticed, I do not like you. I think you are a waste of sperm.
BTW I am not Alberto or Art. I am a project partner, who knows alot more than i will EVER say on this BS site.
Why would anyone who is involved ever show people here.
This is a public blogs filled with idiots, AKA THE FLY.

Do Or Die,

I got this jerk off.... by mdudd February 10, 2011 9:03 PM

I am certainly not so interested in the goings-on here that I would look to make allies. Nor do I wish to make speculation on the legitimacy of COR. I will however offer this to the people doubting that the Lender will fund: do your homework before getting involved with an organization. If there is open communication and verifiable information coming from the Lender to the Borrower then there should be no doubters. The subversive dialogue on this forum leads me to believe that all parties involved in discussion here wish to remain anonymous. This is significant as it shows me, the outsider, that there are still people unwilling to offend the Lender directly. Let us not forget that we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. If you are in the dark then you are most certainly not involved in transparent dealings and should not expect anything less than courtesy from COR. You are not in power and will never be, this is most clearly a game of power you are all playing. by WakeUpNow February 10, 2011 9:32 PM

Ha Ha you boys should do a comedy act when you get to prison . That is if'in y'all go to the same one.

You tell folks They don't understand what Cor is doing how hard it is to do all of this and yet you give no explanation as to how it's done.

You claim to have either been funded or know of those that were funded or funding is once again this week.

Ross one of your star scamer's got caught and is singing like a bird. lets see you guys scraped together your first little bit of money on real estate and then wanted to run a home loan scam but Art slag #1 pointed out the risk of getting busted. Then you desided to put your pennies together and go for this long term big loan scam all on the internet and unpaid dopes that way no paper trail but your little plan had and still have big holes in it. Greed and BS after BS e-mails promising funding this week next week and nothing folks got tired of your BS and reported it to other agencies and then to us and whata know Jack pot.

You see if your little line of BS had leg one there would be some sign of it somewhere.

But if you google ALBERTO B. COLON you will see why he hit the Big Boy Crook list of scammers. he's selling everything from gold to snake oil and this scam with Cor was the topping. Plus the total volume of Complaints filed.

You tickle me with the checkmate thingy. But to tell you the truth I have been both amused and sadden by your whole file and countless line of ball face lies. But to play along you should have castled instead of using your knight You see you got blindsided boy your whole little world is coming apart and your tring to lash out at those that see you Slags for what you really are.

The proof is all around you Active members of Cor going to jail or are in jail and you sit here and try to make excuses and explain away yet another truth with sideways lies.

Where are your happy Millionaire's that got funded by Cor I don't see them in the papers or on TV with there 1500 dollar suits just the ones going to jail in there 29.99 orange DOC jumpsuits and those ain't shiny rolaxes on there wrist them is handcuffs boy.

You come back with nothing but hot air and BS to cover your BS and even regular folk out there can find your lies and bust you on the growing list of jail birds why is that. Why are you continuing to lie lie lie and when you get caught in a lie you lie or try to bully your way out. You sad sad sad little man poor thing and slag #2 as well by The fly February 10, 2011 9:34 PM

Well Sir

I'll put it this way I am not ready to work a desk and If I were to play into there little childish game of phone No# or e-mail address I would spend the remander of my time riding a desk and not out in the field so until I slip the braclets on slag 1 and slag 2.

The Fly

Buzz Buzz by The fly February 10, 2011 9:43 PM

Fly,

You have nothing, you are nothing, and you will never be nothing SON.

Like DOD said,
CHECK MATE BOY.... by mdudd February 10, 2011 10:05 PM

Well mdudd

just as sure a god made little green apples you and your little band of slags missed the mark again.

I know a great deal about you and yours. I know how you started as real estate fliper then wanted to start making juice loans. And all of that plus the othe web of scams y'all have on the internet.

I have written statements and video interviews with some very interesting people that say they have cut deals face to face with the lot of you.

I know you scam known as Cor is falling apart. I know that the IRS is digging up enough stuff to make for some long time.

Everyday there is more and more that pops up to the surface.

You problem is you told too many lies and you told them too many times.

But I must admit I like the way y'all are trying the south/west drawl you know they say impression is the most sincerest form of flattery and for that y'all brought a smile to this ol cowboys face. But it still needs work. When you say boy y'all got to mean it. You know it's gota roll offen your lips boy like that.

And when you say son it's gota come across like your from the south/west not like you boy some tightassed gussied up city slicker.

Your problem with keeping the your endless line of BS going is Everytime you tell a lie you forget to back up the last lie to told before.

Enjoy the little time you have left out here. take a deep breath of that free air cause it will be the last.

Hey you wanta tell these folk out here how your funding this week or next or that it's not up to Alberto or that outsiders are disrupting the process and the investors are holding back until they feel more confortable. Oh I got it that world conditions are changing and the money market is taking a time out. No that the New tax laws are causing much of the delays.

What a crock of crap. Check mate boy y'all ain't never made the first move. All y'all have done is lie cheat and steal.

by The fly February 11, 2011 1:18 PM

Hey Slag

Maybe you can help a ol cowboy like me out here as I said My investigation is over with Cor I've sent the whole south fourty of paperwork up the chain. but you can help out with this one.

Your Bank account in Va at Citibank why did y'all close it so dang fast.

SC:Citius33

ACT:15380378

If anyone out there has this on there So called contract your money had been taken out if there is another bank account on your contract pass that information on the your local office of the FBI and local Police along with your complaint and concerns.

And another thing Art(DoOrDie) Berto is mdudd and anothers as well I got a kick out of the one he used as State Of Texas No self respectin Texan would use such a cityfyed name like that.

Well you see art ain't hiding right but once again y'all ain't got common sence Boy if'in you claim to be this hot shot lawyer in VA with a house as a office that you never lived at and there is NO LTP for you anywhere you would think to at lease change the place where you bank but as i said about crooks not only are they not that smart they are lazy as well.

That ain't Checkmate BOY thats a touchdown Son YeeeeeHaaaaa by The fly February 11, 2011 1:53 PM

No matter how much you drop the bucket in that well it's gona always come up bone dry and dirty.

Hold the line We have (NO IDEA OF WHAT COR HAS TO DO TO DO WHAT THEY DO IF THEY SAY THEY WILL DO AND NOT SHARE HOW THEY DO IN ORDER TO DO) you know what if you look at this it's seems there a lot of do's the same as Cor and the slags that come on this site to lie and discount the truth just a lot of DO-DO by The fly February 11, 2011 3:43 PM

The above link provides some food for thought. The article is authored by Alberto.

Thought those here may take interest.

by WakeUpNow February 11, 2011 4:12 PM

Friday Afternoon Update:

NO FUNDING on this end!!!! Shock!!!! by DoNotBelieve February 11, 2011 4:16 PM

WUPN

Yes I saw that in my Googling and internet investigating.
You really can find quite a few things out by Googling different names and companies. It doesn't take a lot of effort. That is what amazes me about people waiting to receive Funding from COR! Do a little digging...it isn't going to happen! by DoNotBelieve February 11, 2011 4:29 PM

DNB

It would help me to understand how potential Borrowers came into contact with COR.

by WakeUpNow February 11, 2011 4:44 PM

Now that was just plain curel SM. You would think it would come from the High and the Mighty here But it was you pullin the fir-larm Hee Hee.

Well Sir

A good heehaw is in order here to overcome the sad state of affairs we have with the loss of these good folks money to the likes of these crooks.

Well y'all have a good one and watch out for those varments in the bush ya hear by The fly February 11, 2011 4:50 PM

WUPN

I can only speak from the experience from my friend.
In a nutshell:
They are introduced to COR through a Broker or Intermediary.
They submit their Project, Business Plan, Bio's of Executives involved, salaries, propsed future earrings, etc.
This Broker person is paid a % of the payments, funding, disbursements, wahtever you want to call them. And as I have been told, these Brokers recive % for every payment received by that particular person's project.

If you have ever tried to Google COR.com for instance, you need a Login, you cannot access a website without some sort of prior association through your Broker contact or your assigned Ranger.

Hope that helps. by DoNotBelieve February 11, 2011 5:02 PM

WUPN

Out of curisosity, I just Googled CORDevelopment Group
It will get you to COR Login, when you click on there, it tell you page is no longer, etc. Before, you could hit Login and it would tell you need your passwrord etc.
So whatever that means? by DoNotBelieve February 11, 2011 5:12 PM

SC'MON

Same on this end...STILL NO FUNDING!! by DoNotBelieve February 11, 2011 5:16 PM

Well

Pull up a stump and sit a spell i'll try to share what I can without compromising what I have.

1. The mark is recurited by eithder ex loan officers or hustlers posing to have a financial back ground.

2. They are sized up and cuddled to find out if they are unaware of the loan - V/C process or nhave no other choice to invest.

3. They are given a 30 to 60 day turn around on there so called intake fee.

4. Mr Colon will talk with them in the begining to close the deal and after that no futher contact from Mr Colon is possible only thur there Rep/Ranger.

5. The lies and delays begin this will go on for as long as the victim is willing to wait.

6. After sever financial and project damage can no longer be allowed a few will ask for there money back. Now to be fair we have been told in just about every case that the intake fee was returned after great loss and threats to go to the police They maintain a small refund stash of about 60k just for quick refunds.

7.To date Cor nor any of the fronts The front Name Alberto B. Colon has ever paid out to anyone.

8. There are several on going Investigations one of which I had the honor of leading.

9. The amount of infomation that is coming out of ex rangers both indicted and those that just quit is amazing.

10. The little band of crooks 5 as we count no more then 6 that control the whole thing all work from laptops and wifi spots. Funds are collected in short term business accounts and closed they open UPS and Other P.O Boxes to avoid contact and abandon when the heat is on we have three under watch now.

11. At present they are closing shop bracing for the crap storm of indictments and Collection Agencies and Civil actions.

12. Just about every agency with three letters are looking at them or have files and indictments ready to serve or pending.

Well partner thats it is a nut shell Cor and all the players that make up that slag heap.

Hope this was helpful by The fly February 11, 2011 5:35 PM

Typo: Well partner thats it in a nut shell. Cor and all the players that make up that slag heap. by The fly February 11, 2011 5:47 PM

From our interview the Cor site was for them only no one else.

They were going to open it up to victims but realized that the site could be hacked and there little scam would be out sooner.

So it was only used by those in Cor. most of the victims were given a download of groove to install and watch there so called project.

That failed cause they would never update them cause there was never anything to up date them with however they would use the IM feature to talk among themselfs and watch how many victims would login

by The fly February 11, 2011 5:57 PM

What are the setbacks described by the Lender? Is there a legitimate reason provided as to why the Projects have not received Funding? by WakeUpNow February 11, 2011 6:37 PM

WUPN

If you go up a little on this site, you will find many of the delays listed by people who have received them.
None of which are legitimate. Too many to list, just read for yourself. I posted many which I have seen from my friend. Other people have posted basically the same excuses.
The FLY is right about the website, it was originally intended for their use only, that is why you needed to login.
They have since dropped the Groove and switched to a different download. I really need to be careful as not to reveal my friend's idenity. Everything is so secret for them, with I guess penalties attached if you share this information with anyone outside.

by DoNotBelieve February 11, 2011 7:15 PM

WakeUpNow

To paraphase the "great" Mr Colon. The bank banks can't handle the millions of dollars of wire transfers at the same time. That was back in December. Another good one "The banks can't process the wire transfers while it is snowing". All these seem like legitimate excuses to me. What so you think? lol

by summerheat February 11, 2011 7:19 PM

Summerheat

You forgot about... Monday is a Holiday, Have to check on the new Tax Law, Scheduling is in progress, oops, the kids have a snow day, Alberto is not in charge of releasing the Funds,(I guess my question would have been)
then who the heck is?? Worked all weekend to get this done, still working on it. You name they have said it!!
I think you get the picture...Legitimate...No! by DoNotBelieve February 11, 2011 7:35 PM

Mr. MDUDD, has told us he is a Project Partner

Mr. DoOrDie, is I am not sure, but he is on COR's side and I guess waiting for Funding!

I have a friend invovlved and trying to talk him into getting out.

FLY speaks for himself.

That about sums up the positions.

Where do you fall? Summerheat, WakeUpNow, SeriouslyC'mon by DoNotBelieve February 11, 2011 7:43 PM

Well

Let me take a crack at this the banks transfer Billions of Dollars all over the world everyday. The amount of money This group of slags are claiming to control wouldn't cause a blink in the secured IBC's International Secure network. They would also have the ability to send whatever amount of funds to each of the victims accounts at the same time.

The excuses Cor continues to give are many and vast. if you are a vittim or have followed this blog or know of someone that is a victim.

Look at the pattern of how they work. The UPDATES they roll out giving dates most of the time and failing to honor there own time tables . We asked why was this and was told that they (the ranger(s)) have no idea of these e-mails and they are told just enough to keep most of them strung along as well.

The groove was also tracable with real contact info and credit card info if they were to keep using it pass the trial time.

It is very easy to see the lies for what they are just read the so called UPDATES and back check them with the event or agency they claim is blocking the funding and you will find there is either no direct or indirect connection to what they claim and the agency that quote as the problem have never heard of what they listed or them for that matter.

You made a funny summer (lol) by The fly February 11, 2011 7:48 PM

The Fly

I think these these rangers know what the heck they were doing. They are claiming "ignorance" now, because they know the shit is about to the fan. by summerheat February 11, 2011 8:03 PM

The Ranger(s)

Had no idea of the content or when they would come down just that they would be out most of the time the ranger(s) would be just as surprized until the scam started to quickly unfold and Alberto stoped sending the Updates directly to the victims by way of cc never direct and started to send them thur the ranger(s) this was yet another way to shield themselfs but that too back fired on these Master criminals.

My guess is they are getting a bit concerned as I have asked why they won't pick up there mail at the UPS Store In Hoffman Estates or the box in Villa Park.

Cor has not deployed any so called legal team(s) hearded by the legal eagle eyed Art (DoOrDie)Rivera who really needs to loose some weight.

by The fly February 11, 2011 8:09 PM

Fly

Th emails I saw were from the Ranger to himself cc:Alberto, to my friend from the Ranger. by DoNotBelieve February 11, 2011 8:15 PM

Actually some were from the Ranger to my friend. by DoNotBelieve February 11, 2011 8:16 PM

The Fly

I like your style. When this shit is all over, we definately have to drink a beer together.

by summerheat February 11, 2011 8:18 PM

Are you all in Texas? by DoNotBelieve February 11, 2011 8:20 PM

Well the fan is already covered with it and I have have sat listened and asked a question or too myself to these guys for the most part they are clueless.

That is why DHS and a few other Agencies became very interested in them. The fact they worked just like a cell unit. only knowing just enough to keep things going and if they are found out or rated out there is little or no direct connection to the leader's but that connection was made and thats is the undoing of this little scam.

Mr Ross is facing over 100 years in jail and can you say (RICO) that will clean out any holding he may have to include the accounts in the ABC's yea berto and his little band thought they were safe putting the money in offshore accounts but they forgot a few things and some new agreements the genreal public were not told.

I can't comment on an on going court case other then what is already known but the few little tid-bits i have shared will not affect the outcome one little bit

well I'm going to enjoy this plate of country ribs wild rice and kale and then wash it all down with a tall ice cold glass of butter milk yummm then some cobbler and a little TV Yummmmmmm Well time to get home y'all be safe and sound and don't worry the storm is here and there ain't no place for them to hide or run. I know berto and art y'all ain't running sure y'all ain't and Cor will fund Billions this weekend by The fly February 11, 2011 8:27 PM

Well Thank ya, much obliged But I gave up drinkin and smoking cigarettes years ago. But y'all can belly up to the bar and slip on a jack on the rocks for me. as for beer I was a MGD man for a long time I was a rocky mountain koolaid man too but that was when the pop top was that cute little button and beforew that y'all had to have a real church key y'all know bottle on one end can on the other. Hot Damn those were the days.

by The fly February 11, 2011 8:37 PM

I have no personal connection to this Lender or any of the Projects. I came across this forum by mistake and became interested in the topic. I am not formally educated, gainfully employed, or qualified to borrow/lend. I clearly have too much time on my hands. by WakeUpNow February 11, 2011 9:34 PM

A quite day on the blog? by Agoodventure February 12, 2011 7:07 PM

DoOrDie:

Be careful, you accidently posted under your Agoodventure screen name just now. Next you'll be using the Cherub and Thomas 13 names.

by SeriouslyC'mon February 12, 2011 7:23 PM

Fly,

I have filed a formal complaint, as you suggested. by Waitedtoolong February 12, 2011 8:48 PM

- SeriouslyC'mon

Quick being a dumbass.

- Waitedtoolong

What took you so long file? I guess that legitmate funding source you mentioned 5 months ago is not working out for you.

by DoOrDie February 12, 2011 9:37 PM

so long to file...

by DoOrDie February 12, 2011 9:38 PM

Cor is taking so long to fund. So long to fund....

Do I think that Cor's real? by SeriouslyC'mon February 12, 2011 10:20 PM

SC

You think everyone is DOD? by Agoodventure February 12, 2011 10:48 PM

- SeriouslyC'mon

I bet you are not a Partner of COR and you are here posting because the blog interest you or you are a "friend of a Partner" or you are an internet blog investigator. Which one are you?

by DoOrDie February 12, 2011 11:18 PM

Unless you are my ranger or Alberto, I don't owe you an explanation. If you are my ranger or Alberto, you won't get anything else from me until you honor the contract and fund.

It's interesting that most of the "Cor believers" all post around the same time. It was no coincidance that all of you guys managed to take a break on the same day last week. It couldn't have been too hard as it's one or two people pretending to be several supporters.

According to your earlier messages, I shouldn't be worried about speaking up. Wait...accoridng to other messages, you said that I will only get my upfront money back (like that could happen).

I laughed when you attempted to collect the identifies of those who speak up. In fact, you wrote "Now, for some bit of good news. My assistant will be providing me with an email address that I can pass on." Did you really not know your e-mail address? It took several days and an assistant to create an address that matched the information that you posted. Your attempts to scare people are sad and your posts here are a scam within a scam.

You attack everyone who doubts. You mocked a guy for waiting 5 months to file a complaint. Why don't you grow a set and speak out against Cor for taking more than a year past the dates they put in writing!!!

Now DoD, look in the mirror and have Cherub and Thomas 13 say a prayer that the judge goes easy on all of you.

by SeriouslyC'mon February 13, 2011 12:00 AM

- SeriouslyC'mon

Wow! You are a regular James Bond/conspiracy theorist. LOL!

Thank you. You have answered my question in the first sentence. Are you share you not The fly? Too funny.

by DoOrDie February 13, 2011 1:17 AM

DoD, as the "Charlie Brown" on this site that believes in the Great Pumpkin that is Cor, tell me this...

Those who state that Cor is acting irresponsibly and even criminally are asked by you and yours to provide evidence of their claims. When these people point to the contract dates that have been missed by months and years and the dozens of inaccurate updates of funding dates you call them idiots and state that they have no right to question Cor.

When you and yours are asked to provide evidence of Cor's ability to fund, you point to... what is it again that you have provided by way of evidence? That's right, nothing!

Even though Cor actively solicits new partners (victims) without performing on their earlier contracts you think that everyone but you should keep quiet. I realize that I've been screwed, I just want to keep others from getting screwed too.

I know that you are concerned that the ponzi scheme will get uncovered before you get your money, but you should look up the definition of the word conspiracy. Supporting their actions will land you in the same trouble as Cor is in.

Charlie, it's time for you and yours to put up or shut up! Nobody but you thinks that this is funny.

by SeriouslyC'mon February 13, 2011 8:00 AM

It took me five months to decide if I was willing to stand up to the unprofessional BS that goes with testifying against the fraud.

DOD - Financing went very well, thank you! Our project is up and going. Still waiting to start yours? by Waitedtoolong February 13, 2011 8:51 AM

SC'Mon

I missed a lot going on yesterday, WOW!
You made some really good points. I am with you in the fact I would hope to prevent other people from the same fate as my friend. That is my main reason for continuing with this information when I get it on COR. by DoNotBelieve February 13, 2011 9:28 AM

- SeriouslyC'mon

What you failed to understand Mr. Linus van Pelt is that I certainly BELIEVE that COR way of doing business is VERY irresponsible and unprofessional and at times in MY OPINION it touches the line of being unlawful, but I CHOOSE to standby. In doing so, I also choose to protect that decision by confronting blanket toting idiots like you. Idiots that are also standing by as well; idiots that have not asked for their refundable administration fee back; idiots that have not honestly file a complaint or took any legal action, but feels that posting their frustrations online in such a negative and damaging way will somehow miraculously bring forth the funding or it may drag COR into the public to defend themselves. How little that you and the rest of the Linus’ know that this is not helping and it will not get you anywhere.

One thing you are correct on. This is not funny. It’s downright sad. I laugh because you guys are so ridiculous.

Since you choose to go with the peanut characters to describe me, let me say that Charlie Brown is characterized as an insecure person and I am for from that, but it definitely describes most of the naysayers. It would be better suited to call me Joe Shlabotnik; Charlie Brown’s baseball coach and unseen hero. As far as the Great Pumpkin, it seems to exist only in the mind of Linus. Linus sits on a pumpkin (let’s call it the fence for now) waiting for the Great Pumpkin to arrive, but it consistently fails to appear, and a mortified Linus stubbornly vows to wait for him again while at times complaint that he is being taking advantage of. - A little peanut tutoring for you.

- Waitedtoolong

Yeah, right!

by DoOrDie February 13, 2011 9:44 AM

DOD

Why would you choose to standby COR when you stated above to quote you " I BELIEVE that COR's way of doing business is Very irresponsible and unprofessional and at times in MY OPINION it touches the line of being unlawful..."
It makes no sense. If all these people are idiots as you call them for not getting out, or filing claims...What does that make you?
You call everybody an idiot, maybe you should look in the mirror! by DoNotBelieve February 13, 2011 10:45 AM

- DoNotBelieve

I choose to stand by because I know more than your "close friend" about the funding process of this deal. And it's only my opinion that it does touches the line of being unlawful simply because there is proven evidence of breach of contract, but it's not enough for me to pull out and clearly it's not enough for the naysayers to pull out. So instead of riding the fence and talking out both sides of my mouth, I will support it.

Is that too hard for you to understand "close friend" supporter?

by DoOrDie February 13, 2011 11:01 AM

- DoNotBelieve

One more thing.

You are not offended by my idiot remarks, because you are not involved. It's your "close friend", right? Riiiiight.

by DoOrDie February 13, 2011 11:07 AM

DOD

I AM NOT THE FRIEND...IT IS NOT, I REPEAT NOT ME!!!!

I am offended by your idiot remarks, I don't think everyone on this site is an idiot. Where do you get off, calling everybody an idiot just because they challenge the legitimacy of COR Group!
Like I said, "Look in the mirror" you are the one hanging on for something that I doubt is going to happen! by DoNotBelieve February 13, 2011 12:19 PM

Let's take a closer look at who is speaking up in favor of Cor on this site.

First we have this guy:

I am Jeffery Bernard, managing partner for Madison Marquette Retail Services based in Minneapolis. My firm is working on a new expansion project at the Irvine Spectrum Center in Southern California. COR came highly recommended by the financier of our first two phases and I am personally comfortable in knowing this funding will happen here shortly.

The only problem is that Madison Marquette has never heard of him.

Then we have Don Dierks who needs five days to come up with an e-mail address for himself! I can't find evidence that he is a builder or developer as he says or that he actually exists.

Why would someone create fake people to vouch for a legitimate company such as Cor? Doesn't look good now does it.

Hey DoD and all the other screen names you use, please give me a call. You must have my number because in early January you said that you had been in contact with the Executive Vice President of Origination News and he is prepared to share our contact information with you. Nice try at intimidation. You said that you received funding (then said that the funding had stopped). Isn't it more likely that Alberto paid you a few dollars to be his patsy on this site so that you would run interference for his schemes? You need to learn to stand up for yourself where you are going or your cellmate will have a field day.

Put up or shut up!

by SeriouslyC'mon February 13, 2011 12:46 PM

If anyone is a true project partner, they will know what has been going on the last 72 hours. Nothing else needs to be said period.......... by mdudd February 13, 2011 12:51 PM

Do you not get it? People have been burned by the "it's done" messages too many times. "The money will be in your account by Friday" is another favorite. I can't count the number of times I've been told that over the past year.

If you want to keep buying into the BS updates, you are a fool but that is your choice. Until the money is put into MY bank account (the full schedule, not the BS "test" amount), they are a crook and their communication is not to be believed.

Reminds me of the actress that was just charged with a felony for keeping a piece of jewelry that she borrowed from a store. Even when she finally had someone return the jewelry ahead of the search warrant, the DA still considered it theft. Sound familiar to how Cor has stalled? by SeriouslyC'mon February 13, 2011 1:07 PM

SeriouslyC'mon

I would like to speak with you directly.

by WakeUpNow February 13, 2011 3:43 PM

You have a very good point there. It seems the only time those pac of jackles come out is all at the same time and when the heat is too hot in the kitchen they roll out an old but not forgotten username.

As for the lastest Line of BS thats for the benefit of the victims that have been 6 months or less in and to claim down those that for whatever reason still hold on.

These crooks use lies and half truths with hopes of making the dreams of those with wide eyes and ideas.

I am pleased to here more are begining to file it is never too late at this point as this is an on going and growing case. by The fly February 13, 2011 4:04 PM

- SeriouslyC'mon

Clearly your thoughts are all over the place. Everyone appears to know what is going on, but do not have a clue. You are no where in the ballpark.

Give me your number and it would be my pleasure to call you. Since you are a Partner, I'm sure you will like to get to the bottom of this. So don't straddle the fence like the rest, let us work together through this. I will certainly share with you much more than what you have.

I understand your frustration, but at least you were man enough to say you are a Partner.

That email address you keep mentioning. It was set up by my assistant only for this blog. Of course I have an everyday addy, but dare do I place it on here.

by DoOrDie February 13, 2011 4:13 PM

- SeriouslyC'mon

Do you hear yourself? "Until the money is put into MY bank account, they are a crook..." What are you sticking around for? Are they crooks or not? Are you actually waiting for the crooks to put money in your bank account?

Do you know that there is only a handful of Partners that is scheduled for disbursement on Friday? Do you know that those Partners are identified with one particular coordinator? Wow!

If I was Colon, I would think twice before funding most of you. I would take my chances with the idle threats. When someone is truly feed up, they don't talk about it, they don't hang around waiting when they don't believe, they do something about it.

by DoOrDie February 13, 2011 4:40 PM

That's right some of the Rangers have been elevated/promoted to Funding Coordinator's, whatever that means? Then they tell you they are bypassing the FC this time around...What BS!
I know mt friend did not receive any funding Friday or any other day! by DoNotBelieve February 13, 2011 6:10 PM

- DoNotBelieve

Haha, keep talking. I am very interested in knowing the moment your bubble get burst.

What bubble are we bursting? I don't get what you just said in the previous message. by DoNotBelieve February 13, 2011 7:04 PM

By the way I am not your friend, I am sure you know that! by DoNotBelieve February 13, 2011 7:08 PM

You are so slow. We are not bursting anything and the “my friend” in quotations is to be sarcastic. I’m sure you have not forgotten that I said that I don’t like you. Don’t get it confused.

by DoOrDie February 13, 2011 7:13 PM

I knew the My Friend was sarcastic... you just won't let go of the fact that I really do have a friend and it's not me.
As for the bubble bursting, I thought you must have some big news to shock me. by DoNotBelieve February 13, 2011 7:17 PM

I don't care if you like me or not...Nobody on this site likes you at all anyway, so it really doesn't matter. by DoNotBelieve February 13, 2011 7:19 PM

Oh, I forgot...You do have MDUDD in your corner, what an appropriate name! by DoNotBelieve February 13, 2011 7:21 PM

It's a fact you want the board to believe, but I know better and so do you. The shock as you call it, will come soon.

Boy, I just love this iPad.

by DoOrDie February 13, 2011 7:24 PM

Now who does not like me, the 3 or 4 naysayers. Awwww! Well I got over 20 other blog viewers emailing me that thinks differently.

So you guys need to beef up the hate, because it is not working.

by DoOrDie February 13, 2011 7:27 PM

DOD

Don't see 20 or 30 blog viewers emailing you. There aren't even that many viewers visable on the site.
Sure from that fake email address that it took you days to come up with.
I don't hate you, hate is a strong word, I just don't believe in stringing people a long on a dead end ride.
Glad you like your iPad.
It is stlill my friend not me. I think I am smarter then to get involved with a scam like COR. As I said before, the old saying, " If it is too good to be true then..."
You all now the rest. by DoNotBelieve February 13, 2011 7:39 PM

DoNotBeleive

I would have to side with the little slag on the e-mails He is correct he does receive them.

They are not from another blog They are from the srinking list of project Victims.

These clowns are not Project Victims they are the master minds of the scam. DoOrDie Is Art the legal eagle and Mudd Is the CEO or the vast Colon empire.

Lets try this and just dismiss there BS and continued load of horse crap and focus on helping the other victims out there.

There is little or no recovery of money at this time the money to keep Mr Ross out of jail and his legal expenses come from the Cor Victim money pot. Mr. Rivera will not be standing up for Ross for two reasons.

1. Art ain't no lawyer

2. just like most crooks when one get caught they cut and run by The fly February 13, 2011 8:51 PM

- DoNotBelieve

Show me where you can see one viewer at this very moment. You can not. They view, not post. If there was a poll taken you will be rank #2 among the fools. And we all know who ranks #1.

Last time I checked Colon and Rivera were still free men. In your native tongue: Where are the authorities boy (aka #1 fool)?

by DoOrDie February 13, 2011 10:16 PM

DOD

I don't feel foolish at all. I feel very fortunate not to have any money invested in COR. The only fools are people like you waiting for the Tooth Fairy to come and drop your funding on your pillow, I mean in your bank! by DoNotBelieve February 13, 2011 11:31 PM

DoD:

Ahhh, this is where we try to belittle those who speak up. You say that I'm not in the ballpark? Let's throw the facts in here and you tell me where I've gone wrong...

1. Cor collected deposits from over a hundred companies with promises to fund within 90 days. The wait is almost at the two year point.

2. Cor has not funded.

3. Cor has provided several reasons for delays but has stated in writing that all issues have been corrected yet Cor still hasn't funded.

4. Cor has published dozens of funding dates that have come and gone without money being disbursed to anyone.

5. One of Cor's Rangers has been convicted for activities relating to securities fraud and ponzi scheming and is under indictment for similar charges.

Cor still hasn't funded.

These facts are true and can be proven in writing. Do you have any FACTS that you would like to add. If so, please do. Remember, statements like "just believe" and "I know" aren't facts, just dreams at this point.

You want people to quit speaking out against Cor then just provide FACTS that they are real that can be proven. If you have no facts, you just go right on telling DNB and the Fly that you think they're stupid. The effort to bury the facts with the BS have come up empty. It might even be in the public's best interest to restart a thread on the main site so that anyone new can learn about Cor's shortcomings.

by SeriouslyC'mon February 13, 2011 11:48 PM

For the Naysayers: How come Mr.Colon and his tribe of so called vipers,con artists, thievers etc not be behind bars ala madoof and the S.Florida Lawyer who are behind bars? The claims that Mr. Colon and his highly questionable brood are "doomed" to jail time etc are as well founded or at least as well proven as the overly optimistic of this crowd.

To the Optimistic: The naysayers have more evidance, albeit circumstanical then any of Colon's,Rangers' or Cor's horrificly broken promises.

Its time that one side or the other to end the infantile, and assanine banter and name calling etc, prove with either money's funded for the optimist side or a jail sentence for Colon and his rangers. The one "ranger" that went to prision went for fraud and as sad as it is what he did, had only to do with another scheme,fraud etc. by nonsense February 14, 2011 11:00 AM

Nonsense

I am a naysayer and I am hoping Alberto and his whole crew will be in jail before too long, this I have no control over. It is true the one Ranger defrauded people out of over 3 million dollars with a Ponzi Scheme, which this appears to be similiar in nature.

This discontented blog has apparently caught the eye of Mr. Colon himslf or he is one of the Bloggers. I think he sounds like Cherub myself. He is calling us a righteous shadow group...group of cowards that hide in the shadows... After reading his latest Email it almost made me vomit. To parapharse slightly...This is our duty(COR)the charter of our souls that crave with desire to serve humanity's brothers and sister's. It is getting deep in here, I may need one of FLY's shovel's from Texas to get me out of here.
One of my favorite's was, Cor has spent a decade building for this to start our funding. I knew it has been years for some...But a decade?! WOW!
Just thought I would pass this on. by DoNotBelieve February 14, 2011 12:00 PM

And you are everything that he stated. You best believe I will do any and everything to make sure I look you dead in your evil lying eyes when you are left out in the cold.

There is much more I want to say, but I'm not yet ready to be banned. Keep looking out your window, I will be there soon.

by DoOrDie February 14, 2011 12:31 PM

DOD

Now you are threatening me, even for you that is a little much. I am not lying it was in black and white.
You probably read it too and that is what is making you so mad. How I can know so much without being a Project Partner with money invested. That burns you up I know.
You may be banned, threatening a person must be against the site's rules. Of course I guess I can't be too afraid since you really don't know who I am. It really isn't nice to threaten people though! Get A Grip! by DoNotBelieve February 14, 2011 12:48 PM

LMAO! Ok yellow. See you soon.

by DoOrDie February 14, 2011 12:59 PM

How can you see me, when you don't even know who I am?
Or are you clairvoyant? Too bad! by DoNotBelieve February 14, 2011 1:07 PM

Wow. by WakeUpNow February 14, 2011 1:25 PM

And the blog goes silent....shhhhh. by mdudd February 14, 2011 10:14 PM

mdudd... any news? by WakeUpNow February 14, 2011 10:40 PM

It is Valentines Day afterall. Have to treat the Women in our lives!

Maybe DOD was banned after his threats! by DoNotBelieve February 14, 2011 11:27 PM

WUPN

The news was an Email from Alberto...Didn't you read previous messages from today? Why do you think DOD was so mad? by DoNotBelieve February 14, 2011 11:30 PM

I should have said Woman, Wife! by DoNotBelieve February 14, 2011 11:31 PM

If you are checking to see if I'm here. Don't worry, I'm still watching you.

Clearly your conscious is eating away at you. You went from identifying yourself in Colon’s email to me seeing you soon as a threat. Wow! Now that's what I call a yellow chicken shit.

by DoOrDie February 15, 2011 12:21 AM

DNB,
If you think that is all of the news, you are sadly mistaken. Alot more is happening than you say.
Sad to say, you will not talk about it, because it was not what you wanted to hear. No one is going to jail, no one is running of with monies. But "your friend" must be pretty excited. Again more bad news for you. All of that jealousy. " Your Friend" is going to be a success and all you did was try to discourage him. You should be ashamed of yourself. So much for being smarter than all of us...
Please no crafty replies. You have nothing to say. Just deal with it and move on. Be a better person and learn from this experience, Because you almost cost "your friend" his life, his marrige, and his family and that can be a tough burden to carry.

DoOrDIe,
Do not worry about DNB. Guilt and Karma work in mysterious ways. Soon he will reveal his jealous and selfish ways to everyone. Then he will be broke and pennyless asking his "friend" for a handout.
Hopefully we will meet in the future, through our projects. It would be nice to meet my allie on this blog.

Please do not think for one minute, this blog was quit because of Valetine's Day. There has been activity on Christmas and New Years. The reason for the quitness is becasue there is not anything to say!!!!! Soon this blog will be a distant memory. For some, moving on to bigger and better things and for others, will leave with their foot in their mouth!!!!!
I am done here. Until next week.... by mdudd February 15, 2011 7:28 AM

DOD

Quote,"keep looking out your window I will be there soon." Your words not mine.
My conscience (Not conscious by the way) is fine thank you. No reason for it not to be fine.

MDUDD

You always think you guys can get rid of me. Not going to happen. I read the whole Email, very wordy, much too much to put on Blog. One statement "Don't forget we still have laptop delays," and interesting words " no anticipated delays." Lot of wiggle room there. Also stated, they "are not hiding from our commitments when they are Delayed Beyond Our Control." More wiggle room.

I only pointed out the Red Flags to my friend, he choose to ignore them. There is nothing to be jealous of.
He is not excited, still no funding, schedules and dates are one thing, money in the bank has never happened for anyone on this Blog including him.

Nothing to say because COR has still not funded and the
delays and excuses are already built into the last Email!

by DoNotBelieve February 15, 2011 9:33 AM

DOD

By the way...You really don't scare me...What a Joke!
To use your term LMAO!!! by DoNotBelieve February 15, 2011 10:13 AM

It want be fair if you are scared.

By the way, thank you for the correction. I guess I was thinking about rendering your hatred unCONSCIOUS.

Honestly, I will see you soon.

by DoOrDie February 15, 2011 11:32 AM

DOD

Not going to happen! by DoNotBelieve February 15, 2011 12:10 PM

Please do not be surprise.

Come to find out I will be visiting your home state next week.

by DoOrDie February 15, 2011 2:05 PM

And what state is that? by DoNotBelieve February 15, 2011 4:04 PM

These slag heaps are trying so hard to get this blog shut down and disband the few people that have direct contact with victims of that scam it is amazing.

1. Don't allow them to get to you. You have gotten closer to them then you realize.

2. As always they are fishing hoping you will slip up and and give them some.

3. There mail is being returned at the drop boxes listed.

4. The new secure system they are going to is nothing more then to require all information to go thur the internet that way they think they can't be found WRONG

The fact berto and art arn't in jail at this very moment is that the paperwork hasn't been completed plus the number of states that are joining this investigation is amazing

Well just let them do there thing and don't fall for the BS just continue to point out the truth something they can't come back on.

They aren't going to get to me... Like DOD really thinks I am shaking in my shoes...It makes them mad because I know so much information...Things they think I shouldn't have access to, but I do.
I am not going to give them anything.

"You want people to quit speaking out against Cor then just provide FACTS that they are real that can be proven. If you have no facts, you just go right on telling DNB and the Fly that you think they're stupid. The effort to bury the facts with the BS have come up empty. It might even be in the public's best interest to restart a thread on the main site so that anyone new can learn about Cor's shortcomings."

In the five posts you've made since, I've found threats and attempts at intimidation but no FACTS.

I know that you're wondering why I don't believe in light of all of the recent "activities and updates" but I've been burned by Cor and Alberto Colon way too many times to believe. That is unless Cor puts money in my account as we contractually agreed. Earlier on this site you mentioned that you have 100,000 reasons to believe Cor is real. Is that the amount that they paid you to shill for them here or is what you are hoping to get before the ponzi scheme runs its course?

Put up or shut up!

DNB:

Don't sweat the reference to visiting your state next week. There is a prison in every state, I suspect he'll visit many of them. The next time he tries to bait you and distract from the real issue, just ask him to provide the FACTS!

by SeriouslyC'mon February 15, 2011 5:03 PM

SC'Mon

Thanks for the support. I am not worried one bit.IlLike the statement about the jails though, that is a good one.
He (DOD) just can't get over the fact I can have access to so much info when I am not a Project Partner. There is even more, but as FLY says, don't want to tip my hand.
He can threaten and intimidate all he wants.
Also a good point, the COR supporters never give any facts, just more of their BS. by DoNotBelieve February 15, 2011 5:12 PM

SC'mon

How long have you benn waiting for money from COR?
I undersatnd if you don't want to tell. If it doesn't comprmise you, I would be curious to know. If it does then I get it. by DoNotBelieve February 15, 2011 5:15 PM

- SeriouslyC'mon

I really understand your problem so I excuse your outburts, but unfortunately you may be one of the fools left on this blog complaining while everyone else has moved on with their projects. I would understand Yellow as well, but he is a straight coward and it's going to be my purpose to tell him that face to face next week.

Now, our sad and incompetent fly; let's put it this way, and I am share you agree, he's just stupid. There is really nothing else to say about him.

by DoOrDie February 15, 2011 5:35 PM

DOD

Again I say to you, "What state is that we are going to meet in?
You really do need to get a grip!
By the way you once again didn't answer any of SC'mon
questions, or give him or any one here any more facts as he asked for.
You are good at talking in circles and diverting the attention on to benign issues.

By the way I did dial several of the COR phone numbers...Just as FLY said, all automated system, nobody to talk to at any extension. Even your God Almighty Mr. Alberto Colon a voice on a machine!
Of course I am sure there is a logical explanation...I mean who is in an office on a Tuesday in the middle of the afternoon! Surely not the whole COR Group, they are out spending the Project Partners money! Probably bailing out their main Ranger man! by DoNotBelieve February 15, 2011 6:21 PM

To the wash women,

Go get a life. You are directly affecting my funding for my project and i am done with you mother fucking cock suckers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you want to talk shit. lets go!!!!!

DNB ,fuck you. you are a "yellow piece of shit"!!!!!
SC, You are a broker who is a piece of shit!!!!!!
Fly, You keep hovering around the pieces of shit!!!!!Cause you are a low life scumbag, who was a waste of my tax paying money for your education.

I can't wait til COR funds. I will shut down this blog after that rant!!!!!!!!!!

Thats right i am name calling. If you do not like it go tell your mom. I do not care about the 3 of you. I do not like the 3 of you. Go DROP DEAD...............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since this will be my last post, hopefully i will get banned from this soapopera site. I might as well keep going....

Do Or Die,

Fuck these Jerk Offs. They have no clue. No investment. They are scum suckers, who are low life pieces of shit..... Do not waste your time with them. COR will fund and that will shut them up. They can than go on with the peasant little lives......

I am DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW, make sure you tell the moderator on me you little bitches.......... by mdudd February 15, 2011 6:31 PM

You buddy SeriouslyC'mon is too far gone. - A Partner gone rogue.... His only option at this point is to request his admin fee back. At least he can use that to file suit or look for funding elsewhere.

But you are another story. You have access just like the rest of us, because you are a partner. Unlike SC'mon; he has guts enough to admit that he is. - But you think you can hide behind this blog. Oh boy, a surprise is coming your way.

Don't keep asking me what state you are in. Don't worry about it. As you stated, "not going to happen". Right?

As Al Pacino once said, "Ok".

by DoOrDie February 15, 2011 6:41 PM

I got you mdudd...

by DoOrDie February 15, 2011 6:43 PM

DOD you are sooooooooooooooooooowrong. I am not a partner
I never was and I never will be. It really grates you to know how I get my info and that makes me laugh. I am so glad not to have money with your insane group. But I am enjoying watching you squirm you and MilkDudd. He sure lost it. I hope he does get banned. He can't contorl his emotions, that is eveident.
You won't find me in any state...because you don't have any clue who I am...That's great I love it!
So much for milk Dudd staying off the blog for a week, LMAO!!!!
MDUDD
Right...not going to happen, you need to Get a Grip also, you are losing it pal! by DoNotBelieve February 15, 2011 8:01 PM

Well, I'm glad you are being amused coward. Stick to your story and I will stick to mines.

See you later.

by DoOrDie February 15, 2011 8:07 PM

Guys, I think we finally got to them.
Profanity solves nothing just goes to show what low lifes you are. Wow such big words you can use...Did your parents teach you those words? Or maybe your buddies at COR?
I keep asking what state because you are so pathetic that you are coming to get me...Oh wow I am terrified, hey pick a state, you have a one in 50 chance of getting it right! by DoNotBelieve February 15, 2011 8:12 PM

DOD

I can see your education wasn't so great either. Mines are a place where miners go into to mine a particular product. You really need some work on your English grammar, vocabulary and spelling. That's ok we know you COR guys aren't too smart! by DoNotBelieve February 15, 2011 8:17 PM

DNB,

you are GAY. Go get a grip around your cock..
"guys i think we finally got them". What are you 5? They are on the run, we win. WRONG!!!!

Do or Die,
They are not cowards, THEY ARE FUCKING PUSSIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They hide behind an anonymous blog and talk a lot of shit.
They think they are soooo smart, costing people their dreams. A couple of more days and they will go back under the rock they crawled out of and hide.

No i am sorry, The excuse will be, Thats all you got or some ridculous claim. DNB is a jealous DONKEY, who got his ass kicked all his life and now can talk shit because no one can see him (so he does not have to be afraid). Come on here and make noise, so he can be heard, because anyone that knows him, does not listen to his worthless advise....

THEY ARE LOW LIFE SCUM SUCKING MOTHER FUCKING PUSSIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the way. Did not lose anything, just expressing my feelings. Just saying what everyone thinks about you PUSSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if you were my friend (THANK GOD YOU ARE NOT) i would have kicked your low life ass to the curb a long time ago... YOU ALMOST COST YOUR FRIEND HIS DREAMS. YOU ARE A CLASS ACT, DONKEY BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!! by mdudd February 15, 2011 8:29 PM

DNB,

You want reality, i am going to give you a dose.
Do not worry about anyone else but yourself. You can on here showing concern for a friend...
WORRY ABOUT YOURSELF!!!! We are all big boys here and do not need advise from someone who has $0 dollars invested....I just got a grip, NOW YOU GO GET A LIFE......
I do not need you buisness advice or your buisness associates busy savy.
Do you know how many peoples lives, the non believers, affected? You cost them their dreams and their futures, by coming here and saying so many negative things because things were not going as planned...
IN A FEW DAYS THAT WILL CHANGE!!!! The ones who stuck around will prosper. Unfortunatly, their were individuals who read this ridiculous blog and did not move ahead.
Hopefully you can sleep at nite, knowing what you did, you SELFISH BASTARDS!!!!!!! by mdudd February 15, 2011 8:46 PM

Do you feel better now?

You have shown yourself to be classless at least. You must be so proud of your conduct. If we didn't get to you why are you so outraged? Not so many words in your vocabulary either! Another low life education.

As for my friend...you don't know what you are talking about! Dream might be your word...maybe more like a nightmare! by DoNotBelieve February 15, 2011 8:48 PM

MDUDD

I am not trying to give you advice...you guys are beyond help. I am trying to stop others from making the same mistake by getting involved with COR a dead end scam, fraud, ponzi scheme, call it what you want, at best. by DoNotBelieve February 15, 2011 8:53 PM

Is that what you are trying to do - get to us? You are one sad person. Do you not realize that you and the rest of the so called non-invested clowns are causing major issues for those that are invested and want to believe? – NOT REALLY A QUESTION.

Many crazy things have happened based on what occurs on the internet. You may want to remember that. Mdudd clearly has come to his breaking point and so have others. My prayers go out to him, but for you, I have no sympathy for you whatsoever.

by DoOrDie February 15, 2011 8:59 PM

Well I am going to go watch some basketball...Oh that probably narrows it down to maybe 40 or so states that have basketball games tonight! Maybe more! by DoNotBelieve February 15, 2011 9:00 PM

I am glad that those on this site have awakened some concerns in others and have posed some issue for others. Hey now COR doesn't have to come up with any of their own excuses...they can blame the people on this Blog! Just as good as all their other excuses!
ONE MORE DELAY out of COR's control! by DoNotBelieve February 15, 2011 9:04 PM

I am glad that those on this site have awakened some concerns in others and have posed some issue for others. Hey now COR doesn't have to come up with any of their own excuses...they can blame the people on this Blog! Just as good as all their other excuses!
ONE MORE DELAY out of COR's control! by DoNotBelieve February 15, 2011 9:05 PM

WORRY ABOUT YOURSELF!!!! THERE IS NO ONE ELSE.... ACCORDING TO YOUR BOY THE FLY, THEY STOPPED TAKING IN MONEY.. SO WHO ARE YOU WARNING??????
YOU did not make the "mistake" Correct? Well good for you!!!!! You deserver a humanatarian award for being a "GREAT GUY" and spreading your nonsense on here. You have not realized this, but you are on the mortgage grapvine (I still have to figure out why this blog is here, because there is no one getting a mortgage) and not CNN. Again you claim scam, fraud, ponzi scheme and I cannot figure out why? If people were going to take the money and run, they would have gone along time ago.

The only thing COR is guilty of is it took longer to fund than expected... Again that is it...But that will soon change and you are scared, because you know it...... by mdudd February 15, 2011 9:11 PM

...as a dog returns to his vomit, so do you guys keep returning to this blog. by State of Texas February 15, 2011 9:28 PM

MDUDD

"It took longer to fund than expected..." Your words
Last time I looked there was still No Funding, unless the rest of missed something between 9:00PM tonight and now!
I don't know if COR stopped taking money, maybe and maybe not. I hope so, it might save some more victims.

I don't want or need any awards. I just want COR to get what they desrve for all the people they took advantage of.

MilkDudd, I thought you were done with this site...Can't rsist...? by DoNotBelieve February 15, 2011 11:15 PM

Typo...Resist! by DoNotBelieve February 15, 2011 11:16 PM

SofTexas

So then what are you doing back? by DoNotBelieve February 15, 2011 11:21 PM

MDUDD

You are right on one thought...People should have taken there money and run if they were smart...But some are in Dreamland just like you and DOD.

If COR isn't trying to hide...How come not 1 phone number answers ever? All recorded, automated systems that take you from one extension to another. They don't want to talk because it is easier to give false updates on the internet than try and talk to anybody for fear of being caught or saying the wrong thing.
I am sure you have an explanation for that...They must be just too busy working on funding schedules...Right? by DoNotBelieve February 15, 2011 11:29 PM

What day of messages yesterday. I guess DNB hit a nerve with COR more so than the fly.

Mdudd: You don't ACTUALLY believe that your funding is at risk because of nonsensical accusations on an anonymous internet forum? Or do you?

DoOrDie: I wish you would stick to mines. One less person like you on the planet is a good thing.

What an amazing group here! What a privilege is must be to do business with the kind of people on here. ZERO professionalism. No wonder none of you have or make any real money.

by WakeUpNow February 16, 2011 10:35 AM

WUPN

I think I did hit a nerve. Too bad the only words out of their mouths were profanity. They just don't know any better. I don't think they know how to spell Professionalism. MDUDD is...! by DoNotBelieve February 16, 2011 11:46 AM

Here you go. - Just browsing the internet and stumbled across this blog. - No invested interest to what’s going on, but the content of the blog fascinated you. So you figured you will invoke your human rights in an area you have no earthly idea about. Welcome #4 you are officially a member of the Klan.

Intelligent as you may have appeared, do not get me confuse as these other jackasses. You have concluded that I am someone from COR because I believe. What a stupid move on your part. Well I have concluded that you are a partner or broker. Now you are in the crosshairs along with the rest. I really gave you more credit than that. The funny thing is I thought you were from COR.

As I stated some time ago I had the balls to identify myself. So feel free to look me up on the net. I’m sure DoNotBelieve has been busting his hump trying to find out who I am. Let me give you a hint. Everyone who’s anyone has a Facebook page. You can find me if you have one yourself. My company is Don Dierks Builders. We build bodies. Our motto is: We tear them down and build them up.

by DoOrDie February 16, 2011 1:29 PM

Sorry...... #4 is---- Drum roll please........WakeUpNow!!!

by DoOrDie February 16, 2011 1:32 PM

DoOrDie

I have not mistaken you as a member of the COR group, I am identifying you as a supporter but my comments regarding your worth on here have nothing to do with COR dealings. I do not need to choose a side because I have no interest in anything other than the dealings on this forum and matters discussed. You have been an instigator as much as any of the naysayers. You are a fear monger and have yet to provide any evidence of anything. by WakeUpNow February 16, 2011 1:44 PM

I'm more than an instigator. I am a Partner and you are absolutely correct. I have not provided a damn thing here on this blog, but those that emailed me and identified theirselves received what they needed to stand firm. For one that has no interest in anything, but have a lot to say to those that do - who is instigating? I fear is what I'm promoting to protect MY INTEREST than fear it is. Who invited you in the first place. Don't tell me. Another NO INTEREST person.

I suggest you stay neutral and leave your comments about ones worth to yourself.

by DoOrDie February 16, 2011 1:57 PM

Opps.... If fear....

by DoOrDie February 16, 2011 1:58 PM

Winning in an argument on the internet is like winning gold in the special Olympics. Even though you've won you're still a retard.

by WakeUpNow February 16, 2011 2:08 PM

LOL! You too.... Thanks and welcome aboard.

by DoOrDie February 16, 2011 2:21 PM

Hey DOD

I really don't care who you are. Good lead on the Facebook though. It figures from you poor grammar and spelling you would be a motorcycle kind of guy! You might want to put your shirt back on! Who are you trying to impress? by DoNotBelieve February 16, 2011 3:04 PM

WUPN

DOD is promoting fear because he is a body builder and I guess he thinks all that muscle will scare us...Too bad most of it is in his brain!

Don Dierks Builders...I am sure we all thought it was buildings...Right?...Wrong! It is bodies...!

Now I am really scared! by DoNotBelieve February 16, 2011 3:32 PM

FYI

From the tidbits I am picking up...I think old Mr. Ross the Ranger might be in a little bit of hot water with his good old boys at COR! by DoNotBelieve February 16, 2011 3:37 PM

Well just poped in to give those interested in FOIA info.

1. There is no and never has been an EIN or TIN for any of the So Called MEGA Companies Under the pseudo Name Alberto B. Colon or any of the accompany Business listings.

2.There is no IRS listing for Mr Colon or anyone for that matter under the FOIA listings.

3.Dispite what is or was told here or in the so called contract in oder for any one to bring that sort of funds from anywhere MUST be resgistered thats just the way it is.

Now to address the crap that is flowing once again in an attempt to either devert attention from the fact this scam is coming to a close is just smoke and dirty mirrors. The P.O Boxes that we have been watching have not been collected and one has been closed the one in villa park Ill is still full.

There are others according to our Info and the new so called secure system is just as I said it was and that is infomation sent and delivered by only on-line. But at this point it's too late.

Rosses investigation was over 14 months this is not uncommon but this little game these 4 are playing is closing.

hey fellars way don't you tell the folks out there all about your little in house fighting last year and the drug induced christmas e-mail Cor goes where no one dares to OMG boy that was some goood meth you were'a smoking berto.

The fact is Art is the brains of the operation . he is your run of the mill sociopath the plan would have worked longer but berto screwed that up there were 7 in the begining but things got thined out mid 2010.

Berto is just another manic depressive with delusions of granduer as you can plainly see Mr Colon Must be in charge of all he puts his name to and it must be on display for all to see.

The language is just a childish attempt to lash out as to there ever closing world and the fact more and more insiders are questioning this so called Funding scam.

The site has provided many of the so called Rangers that were on the fence to drop a dime and clear themselfs. The meeting concerning the change to this online only next step was directly connected to our stake out of the Ill P.O Boxes and the closing of the bank accounts were to plan for the get away I do think if berto or art try to use those names when planing a trip they will have much to be concerned about.

Ross has already cut a deal named names and pointed out folk. Hey guys remember the cute cream dodge caravan last week I know you do hell y'all were looking right at it.

But this new case ain't as funn as this one I have to say Hell I haven't had so much fun busting dirtbags oop's pardon me Slags like these ol boys in awhile. Oh DoNotBeleive ask your friend was one of the excuses that the trading platforms were unstable and the international market was ajusting Oh and that the IRS and the Folks in washington were doing all they can to tax all of this money that was coming from overseas and the banks were unable to handle all of the accounts and that berto was in bank meetings all day everyday.

There was one more interesting bit of info Mr Curtis watson or watkins was pose to be the money man traveling overseas to deal with the big money folk over there. One big problem with there is no passport issued to such a person and there is no IBC State department file on this so called Cor international High roller wonder why?? by The fly February 16, 2011 4:26 PM

Hey DoNotBeleive

Did you say biker well hell that explains the meth induced E-mail OMG. Well close but that not our slag I don't know who that is but it doesn't match any of the photo's we have and it's not on the list that Ross identifyed. But I agree and please don't get me wrong my shirtless days have been placed far behind me I just call what I have is good livin ROTFLMAO by The fly February 16, 2011 4:44 PM

- Old Yellow

You are such a dumbass and jealous I must add. Not only I build bodies, but I own 21 Gold Gym franchises around the United States. Plus, I’m looking to reorganize and open 10 new facilities with one in your backyard under my company’s name. – “Don Dierks Builders” – Spread the word Yellow.

Wow, how impressive for a little old muscle man with bad grammar. So yes, I will show the guns everywhere I go, because it rakes in the cash.

I know you are scared. Your comments along tells everyone that you are scared. You have every right to be, because I know who you are. You are the yellow chicken shit that is here because of a close friend.

Get some balls and identify yourself to the blog. I
would do it myself, but I promised I wouldn’t. Remember you are not a Partner.

by DoOrDie February 16, 2011 4:48 PM

If you have photos you jacko, you will definitely not have one of me. Only your dumbass thought I was someone I wasn't. So I guess that's another hole in your investigation.

by DoOrDie February 16, 2011 5:02 PM

Hey slag slow down take a deep breath don't smoke as much meth the next time you try to squiz out a thought by The fly February 16, 2011 5:04 PM

Hey

There are NO partners with Cor Just VICTIMS what hole the only hole I see here are the ones all over your sorry ass story and claims to have and be what you are My god your a sorry excuse of life. The good folk here ask for proof and you tell them you are a partner a partner with an incredible amout of inside information and as a partner why in the world would onther so called partners want to or have to e-mail you for information and confort .If that is true and you are not slag 1 or 2 then you must be slag 3 why would you have this insight that No other (Ranger)would have.

I don't know why you would continue to just lie lie lie as real information is passed and if you would have read the post I stated that the photo DoNotbeleive was speaking about did not match any of the ones we have on file. You give yourself away at every turn boy your funny by The fly February 16, 2011 5:14 PM

Well hell boy don't sugar coat it tell us like you really feel if you know me then by all means boy spill it. by The fly February 16, 2011 5:20 PM

DOD

I am only going by the picture you have on FB. It is you or it's not you!
When are you coming to my backyard? Which state is that again? You have no clue who I am, since you still think I am a Partner...Keep thinking that...I guess you will be winding up in somebody else's backyard...Pitty that person for the mistaken idenity. I am really scared now!
I have seen bigger guns on girls at the gym! by DoNotBelieve February 16, 2011 5:28 PM

Oh thank ya for the ol yellar he was a damn good ol huntin dog. Awwwwwwwwwwwww y'all made my day Thank ya Slag thank ya. I wish I could say something good about you but being the pond scum sucking lying theif y'all are the words just don't come to me but my granny always use to say there were some good in the lowest trud and she was right so y'all have a good day slag ya hear by The fly February 16, 2011 5:35 PM

No surprise here:

NYS Department of State
Division of Corporations
Informational Message
The information contained in this database is current through February 15, 2011.

Hell boy I'm just an ol country cowboy cop and you are damn jad clampett hell y'all on here with all those places boy ain't you missing out on something. So you got funded by Cor and are explading your vast empire why don't you show the folks here the cancelled check the bank draft with Cor's name pasted all over.

Hey DoNotBeleive the biggest gun on that ol boy is his mouth and it just shoots blanks by The fly February 16, 2011 5:45 PM

As I said in the earlier post he can't help it.Even when he is caught in a lie he continues to lie even harder to push more lies.

look at the past month of post and you will see lie after lie after lie .It's just a game with him he's really very sick sad but true.

You see he he thinks he's smarter then everyone else and that if he tells us a lie we will beleive it by The fly February 16, 2011 5:52 PM

I'm sorry the fly, but that BS you shooting want get to more than I gave.

I see I got all the girls checking me out. I like that.

- SeriouslyC'mon

Dig just a little deeper. It's there, but you must know your shit to find it. I am surprise at you. I thought you would have come to your senses by now, but I guess not.

I tell you what. When I stop by to see my new pal DoNotBelieve, I promise you he will be back here telling it to you all.

by DoOrDie February 16, 2011 6:05 PM

Opps....

... want get more than I gave.

Blame it on the iPad.

by DoOrDie February 16, 2011 6:07 PM

- SeriouslyC'mon

I forgot to add this in my earlier post.

You just assumed my company was based in New York because of my FB profile. Don't be stupid like the rest of the jackos. NY is one of 3 places I have residence in the US.

by DoOrDie February 16, 2011 6:26 PM

DOD

You are amusing...When are you coming to the great state of? Where I live...This is fun...You think you know so much! OK for real what state of the 50 do I live in? Take a guess! Like I said, you have a one in 50 chance of getting it right. I can't wait!

It does say Don Dierks Builders, LLC NY NY
I can see why SC'mon would think it is in NY. So where is this great and profitable business of yours...Or maybe not so profitable if you are looking to COR for financing your project. Like I said, that body wouldn't sell anything...it might scare some people though...nothing like a 50 or so year old has been with his shirt off! by DoNotBelieve February 16, 2011 7:57 PM

DOD

Any girls checking you out must come from the Stevie Wonder School of Optometry! You do know what school of optometry is, don't you? by DoNotBelieve February 16, 2011 8:07 PM

Check again nob fluffier. It says, lives in New York, NY.

Let my visit be a surprise.

Why are you checking me out over and over anyway? Are you a girl? Is nob fluffing something you do? LOL!

by DoOrDie February 16, 2011 8:09 PM

It also says your business is in New York, NY
Wow! President and CEO...I am impressed!
You are probably Bald underneath that baseball cap too. Probably why you have it on.

You can't name a state because you don't know what state it is.

Hey don't make me throw up. Looking at that FB picture once was enough! Can't do it again. by DoNotBelieve February 16, 2011 8:38 PM

Can a naysayer please tell this nob fluffier he's being gay. He want believe it if it comes from someone that believes.

You sound worried about my visit. Don't be. You said I don't know so leave it at that.

by DoOrDie February 16, 2011 8:46 PM

sociopaths! by WakeUpNow February 16, 2011 10:32 PM

I leave for 24 hours and look what happens.

The purpose of the rant was to prove how much of a joke this site really is and it worked perfectly!!!!!!!
Told you, this is not cnn, msnbc, cspan blog...
This is a no name blog started by someone who has not posted in months. What a smart individual he/she was? ON advertisment monies have probably tripled since this blog was started. No wonder they will never kick any one off...
Said to say, but yes this blog did affect people from moving forward. That is why I am going to expose this BS Blog.....

Now on to the peanut gallery,

DNB/SC,

You guys actually went and checked on DOD. Found out he is legit and do not like it. Go figure. Some one who is more successful than the both of you combined, so now you have to put your investigator hats on and dig for more info... Classic case of jealousy. Maybe the fly will join you. The three of you can start your own blog and talk and play with each other and have one big circle jerk...Because very soon, you will have to find something new to do with your pathetic lives.
DNB,

You said get a grip, man you are out there. Checking peoples facebook pages. I think someone got a grip and it was not "your friend".....
By the way, "did your friend" ever get his laptop?

Fly,

Welcome back. Your presence gives me a warm funny, makes me want to vomit. Everytime you talk, I feel said for you. All that money wasted on your education (probably federal funded)(so probably my money wasted). Sounds like maybe you were educated while in the pokey(that would justify the federal funding)....Maybe you are one of those reformed prisoners. After years of being someones bitch, you came out and found your calling, anonyous blogging. By the way, you know alot about meth. Let me guess, you speak of a person who has first hand knowledge I take?

Wake up Now,

Where did you come from? Just bored, Like your new buddies, you need a life.

I just figured out what you guys can do next, You can IM or maybe Skype each other. Sit around and tell stories, cuddle, snuggle, once in a while give each other happy endings. Just a thought on what you guys can do. OH WAIT CAN"T SKYPE, THAT IS NOT ANONYOMOUS!!! Dam that won't work...I will figure something out for you guys, so you can still hide and yet EXPOSE yourselves to each other...

So another day concludes. Almost there........

by mdudd February 16, 2011 10:34 PM

- mdudd

What's up dude? I been trying to hold it down, but I'm done.

After I make that trip to see DoNotBelieve next week, I will take a week off in Brazil.

by DoOrDie February 16, 2011 10:46 PM

long day....

That is going to be hysterical.. He will shit his pants...Good time for a vacation/Celebration...... by mdudd February 16, 2011 10:54 PM

I want to say very clearly that I do not have an opinion one way or another about anyone's business with COR. To an outsider it only appears as though a few people are not happy with the answers they are getting from COR relating to funding delays.

I am bored, you are right about that. Why don't you send some opportunity my way so I won't have time to waste on here. If I didn't already mention: I am uneducated, unemployed, and impoverished. I don't even have money for food.

The fact of the matter here is all of the personal banter is totally uninteresting. I wanted to discover what the nature of this business here is. The reality is that there is nothing going on here other than entertainment. This is not a forum for any real issues regarding the Lender. Just a bunch of bitter and angry "naysayers" vs "believers" who seem to be just as angry. This is EXACTLY like watching one of those legal shows on TV ie Judge Judy. The plaintiff and the defendant argue and bicker over personal nonsense, then provide all kinds of irrelevant and unnecessary information, all the while the Judge, ignoring all the second and third hand information, waits for something evidentiary to go on.

by WakeUpNow February 16, 2011 11:03 PM

DOD

You are so full of it! Oh yeh, I am just shaking waiting for you to show up, the big bad body builder with guns like a girls...Someone save me! I have friends in Brazil, maybe you can look them up too.

MilkDudd

Gosh I thought they kicked you off.
Of course we looked up DOD on FB, I want to know who to look for next week outside my window! by DoNotBelieve February 16, 2011 11:09 PM

MDUDD

Don't know about the laptop...don't care!
He is just getting himself in deeper, thinking he is getting this money someday, which we know isn't going to happen! by DoNotBelieve February 16, 2011 11:19 PM

- mdudd

This clown really thinks I'm joking.

- WakeUpNow

Your instigating interferes with the shows format. No evidence will appear here. If there is an opportunity you seek, forward me your resume.

- DoNotBelieve

That photo you keep gawking over was during an Ironman Magazine photo shoot. Maybe you should ask your significant other what he thinks of the photo.

by DoOrDie February 16, 2011 11:25 PM

WUPN

You are right the issues have taken a back seat.
Someone said it last week...This will end when COR funds, which I really don't think is a reality.

Look at logic, you give me $20,000 and a supposed project and I (COR) am going to give you millions back.
For what? Out of the goodness of my heart. How many $20,000 do they have to collect to pay anybody anything.
Let alone millions to one person! And at what cost is the payback?

The numbers don't add up! by DoNotBelieve February 16, 2011 11:28 PM

DNB

This intake fee is for the Lender to make all the necessary arrangements for the loan and to avoid having to do the due dilligence on all of the projects it is going to fund. It weeds out the people who are in no position to be doing business on this scale. The Lender in return for the millions in Funding takes an equity share in the project. It is customary in this kind of dealing with a VC. It makes perfect sense.

by WakeUpNow February 16, 2011 11:45 PM

Don Dierks is the saddest cover I have ever seen. You could have at least tried to develop a credible profile for your man Don or his company. Those profiles were just freshly created when you needed them. SO suspicious!

Thanks for the offer but if you want to make money with me you need to be ready for investment in South America.

American's have no clue about South America.

by WakeUpNow February 16, 2011 11:56 PM

DoD and MDudd:

Where are your facts?? We know that you can insult but it's time to put up or shut up!

The vacation to Brazil next week, are you and the rest of Cor coming back? Hmmm.

DoD, seriously c'mon man. That Facebook page is hastily put together and for such a successful businesss man in so many states, you do a crappy job marketing yourself. You don't exist on the Internet. Where are the facts?

Give me a call, you have my number!

by SeriouslyC'mon February 17, 2011 12:08 AM

It would be my pleasure. Man up at forward me you number.

by DoOrDie February 17, 2011 12:12 AM

You said that you had it. In fact, you wrote:

Sorry, I have been off the scene for a few days, but during my absence I was able to contact the Executive Vice President and Managing Director of Business Technology & Securities Division for Origination News (ON). He has made it very clear that ON is prepared to provide the IP addresses of any poster that place slanderous and discrediting information against any person or business on any blog. – Through proper channels of course. They have had to do this on several occasions to include providing reprints under court orders. For example, he provided me with a sample on how detailed their traffic source is. The two most opinionated posters on this blog are identified in the Philadelphia and Arizona area - YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE. According to the VP, they have that narrowed down to the cities and the longitude and latitude within it. WOW!I have already forwarded the contact information over and offer any assistance to help identify those that were born idiots. HAHAHA…. So, keep hiding behind the scenes.

Now, for some bit of good news. My assistant will be providing me with an email address that I can pass on. Unless you have not received funding yet, once I post this address, please provide me with some scrubbed down information that you are a project partner and I will send you a scrubbed down screenshot of funding posted in my company’s account as of 01/05/2010. Although this goes against our individual Trust Agreements, I am sure COR will not mind. I hope this will bring you some comfort that COR is making this happen for us all. I will post the email address tomorrow evening.

You missed the state, but then again you might have been talking about some of the others.

Do you remember this post under one of your other screen names:

Project Partners and Associates

Today, September 13, 2010, is the day for all interested parties to contact their Rangers and Cor Development, your project partner, and find out the amount of the first disbursement and which day will the funds be in your bank account. Based on Alberto's latest email, this is what we are waiting for.

Quick driving yourself crazy. Go back to my post where I give a momentary email address and provide me with what I asked for. I will then give you the same as I have given to others. But first you need to unscrew yourself. If not, you can keep sitting on that fence. This is not a game and I know you are at the end of your rope. The damage may have already been done, but your frustration can be taken into consideration. Your call.

by DoOrDie February 17, 2011 7:09 AM

- WakeUpNow

Nice try, but no cookie. What's SO suspicious is your real reason for being here. You have been a suspect from the start. Keep on instigating.

by DoOrDie February 17, 2011 7:36 AM

WUPN

One of the points you brought up is exactly why I have a problem.
They don't do due diligence. You can give them any project scheme with projected numbers and they don't check.
I know for sure my friend gave them projected figures for future revenue, that is nowhere on the blip screen. They were totally not substantiated. No reputable VC would ever give you money without a due diligence.
It doesn't matter what % of equity they want in return, if that is the case, if there is no equity to be divided.
Those are two issues which make me question this whole process with COR.

DOD
Why in the world would anybody give you their Email address. And I guess I am not the only one who checked out your so called FB page?! by DoNotBelieve February 17, 2011 8:28 AM

DOD

Anybody can set up an Email address... Just like the FB page. You probably have many of them. They are all free, no big deal.
Nobody is going to give you their phone number either.
After all you might come after them.
Since you like threatening people! So where are you going Arizona or Pennsylvania. If it were me, I would pick Arizona, much better weather this time of year.

by DoNotBelieve February 17, 2011 8:37 AM

SC'mon

Saw that same Email from September 13. They are a bit wordy just to get their point across, especially when they are giving excuses and delays.

I think The Ross man might have been demoted. Have to see what happens. Too much heat on him I guess. Brings unwanted attention to COR! by DoNotBelieve February 17, 2011 8:54 AM

There you go acting gay again. You such a dumbass. I don't give a shit how they email me. They can create an email address just for this purpose. What does momentary email address means to you stupid?

For your information, many have already emailed me and I even talk to a few from time to time on the phone. Only cowards like yourself is hiding.

In addition, I really don't care. My purpose here is ending soon. I came here just like most, looking for something on COR. I got involved because of the bullshit being stated by Waitedtoolong. My final objective is you. See you next week girlie.

by DoOrDie February 17, 2011 9:01 AM

What are you afraid of. Have I once said that I'm going to harm you. All I said is that I will see you soon. Maybe I will allow you to fluff me. You have been internet fluffing everyone that has something negative to say. I may want the real thing. So quit being a little bitch and take what's coming.

by DoOrDie February 17, 2011 9:13 AM

DOD

You are so Disgusting!
You must be into guys...No wonder you got divorced...A little light in the loafers maybe?
Stick to the facts and get away from all the BS you give out. by DoNotBelieve February 17, 2011 9:49 AM

You never stated whether you are a man or not. You express yourself like a girl. So therefore, that's what you are to me - a girl.

My facts with you are over with. As a matter of fact it never got started. The only fact you need to know is next week. Other than that, I'm done.

by DoOrDie February 17, 2011 10:07 AM

I am a suspect of what? by WakeUpNow February 17, 2011 10:21 AM

DOD

Just because I don't use profanity like you and MDUDD,
to get my point across, I never thought that got you anywhere in life. It is certainly unprofessional, but then again, I forgot your profession, so to spesk is Body Building, so I can why you speak and act the way you do!
My fater was a better example then I guess yours was! He was a real professional! by DoNotBelieve February 17, 2011 10:28 AM

Typo My Father... by DoNotBelieve February 17, 2011 10:34 AM

Went back and started at the biginning of the site. It actually was a good back and forth of information. Now one person takes a swing at the other and the other swings back, we are all guilty. Seems like once DOD arrived on the scene the real back and forth of info seemed to cease. I came on in December, I couldn't help myself, couldn't stand reading all the BS and not saying anything. I noticed many of the original bloggers have not appeared in quite awhile. Just wondering if anyone has made any progress?

Waitedtoolong
Did you file your complaint? Any news on that front? If you are able to share, I think many of us would be interested. Thanks! DNB by DoNotBelieve February 17, 2011 2:14 PM

Howdy Y'all

Okay I'll just get right too it. Pass this on.

GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD!!!!!!!

If you know of a so called (RANGER)pass this on if that person cooperate with the Feds and local DA's they will receive a pass.

The window for this is a short one this was a bene from one of those that was indicted in order to compile more information and speed up things the more that step forward the better there chances of walking.

This is a fact the so called rangerss are facing Federal and local charges of but not to include:

1. Wire fruad,mail fruad,member of a criminal operation and suspected members of a terrorist cell

I would plead with these folk to do the right thing and turn themselfs in and clear there names.

As you see with the two slags that are here they can't stop lying the sad part is that they have lied so much and for so long that they really beleive the lie that is in there twisted minds by The fly February 17, 2011 4:22 PM

Hey Slag #1

I got a very interesting call from a ol friend that's based in DC He did a little favor for me and pulled up the ATCCC log for Arlington VA airports and local fields and found NOT ONE HAWKER SP registered there at all under any of the so called companies you claimed to be apart of not only that but there are NO NOT ONE Hawker of the model number sype or style loged in as landing or taking off in the pass 3 months there and the last one had a GOV TAG.

I read the blog and I too looked up the vast Company you claim to be the CEO of and still drawing a blank at the vast expansion you or this company claims to be or have why is that I'm just asking slag

Oh We had dinner last night at the Velocity Five The steak was some good eatting but The band coulda played some C&W but I ain't picky. A bit pricy but what ain't these days and after being robed at snow point in chicago I just gave em my card with out a fuss besides I found out the chicago thing was a write off so.

Y'all know where I'm talking about slag I did't see ya there boy. Why don't you tell the good folk here where the place I had dinner at last night boy. Oh I'm here until tomorrow and ifin y'all still wanta square off just let me know son. Now afterwards on the way to jail don't be mad son I won't hold it a'gena boy by The fly February 17, 2011 4:43 PM

FLY

I thought DOD was a New Yorker. I know that restaurant is not in New York. Virginia I believe. by DoNotBelieve February 17, 2011 5:05 PM

yea these boys are like cow pies all over the pasture smellin up the place but if you look at slag 1's feb post and a few before that he claims to be in arlington VA. And yes you are correct it is in VA as I said I would be here this week for this Training thing I hate these things but I'm here.

I would like for you and the few others here to spread the word about this site and to encourage the (rangers) to visit here and see just what lies they are being told and to share it with the other's Also just let the slags here continue to discredit themselfs. Slag #1 is always coming to visit someone here if you look at all of his back logs and telling people to just wait a week and the clouds will open up and the money storm will pour down. by The fly February 17, 2011 5:35 PM

DoNotBeleive

If you remember you asked me on a lighter note of my super bowl pick and I said Greebay and slag #1 wrote this.

As I sit here on this cold day in Arlington in anticipation to take my seat at number XLV tomorrow. I thought I should address the blog one more time.

If there is anyone left that views this blog for answers, understand the enemy uses doubt and discouragement to “neutralize” and stop the truth. Discouragement is a tool the devil uses to “cut short” your vision. The devil wants to keep you from moving forward. When Satan desires to paralyze you, he uses doubt to cause you to “conform” to his present situation. In other words, wretchedness loves company.

As many of you have shared with me in an email or two, the few naysayers that post here clearly are more connected to the funding of COR then they allege to. They feed on doubt clearly due to a suppressed repugnance for COR. I have yet to see any sincere compassion for those they claim to represent. – Simply because there is no one to represent but themselves.

I have taken jabs at these people to counter anything destructive that they may have thrown that can discourage the believers, but as many of you have shared with me, their words are discharged as hot air.

So, let’s pray that they find some sense of peace within themselves and that COR soon bring an end to a beginning.

Again, don’t be discouraged when the gloomy Gus responds negatively, because it will take time for them to conform; if ever.

Go Steelers!
Don
by DoOrDie February 5, 2011 9:36 AM

So not only is he the head of a vast empire of fitness spa's he can also be in two places at the same time WOW way to go slag

by The fly February 17, 2011 5:52 PM

There are so many Arlingtons If it is Arlington New york that wouldn't surprize me either. These guys have so many names and addresses what's one more to add (LMAO) by The fly February 17, 2011 5:58 PM

DoNotbeleive

Slag #1 Does not impress me as the east coast type his type pattern does not support the eastern attitude or mannerisms. No it's more midwest I would say educated partly in the east but the rest is all midwest yankee.

by The fly February 17, 2011 6:11 PM

- the Fly

I'm sorry you was unable to attend the big game. Don't hate me because I was able to afford it and you could not.

By the way, I found your mother's picture next to the word Slag in Wikipedia. The definition is as follows: to describe an individual who engages in casual sex and promiscuous behaviour. You may wish to check that out as well.

This will be my last post so I guess y'all will be lost without me. So continue to exchange sperm juices with each other. I will begin to prepare for my trips next week.

- DoNotBelieve

I really hope your Father taught you everything you need to know, because you wil need it when I visit you.

Goodbye guys and gays. It was fun.

by DoOrDie February 17, 2011 6:42 PM

One more thing.

I just realized that the dumbass could not figure out when I stated, "As I sit here on this cold day in Arlington in anticipation to take my seat at number XLV tomorrow."

SUPERBOWL XLV IN ARLINGTON, TX YOU STUPID ______________!!!!!!!

Ok, now goodbye.

by DoOrDie February 17, 2011 6:54 PM

DOD

Don't think a gay guy would have a beautiful wife like I do...But go with your theory.
The rumor mill was wrong again for you guys,the word circulating was the meetings were suppose to start today in New York. Oh well you won't find me in New york next week either! by DoNotBelieve February 17, 2011 7:32 PM

Is this the point where they all go on "vacation" out of the country with our money? Brazil was mentioned yesterday.

DoD just couldn't come up with one FACT!

These guys remind me of the Heavens Gate idiots who told everyone that they would be sorry when the aliens showed up after following that comet. I know, tomorrow is the day!!! Prove it! Put up or shut up was the challenge. It appears that they have opted to shut up. by SeriouslyC'mon February 17, 2011 8:39 PM

SC'mon

You could be right...They seem to be all signing off.
I know my friends Ranger has not been answering his Emails. Has not talked to him all week! by DoNotBelieve February 17, 2011 9:13 PM

I know someone involved in this and I am skeptical at best. I see there is alot of dissent on here. I know that you pay into this thing a relatively small amount of money. Other than that, which would seem like small potatoes. Why would you go over a year constantly sending emails and devoting time to this to uphold the scam? Why not just dissapear once you have money? by 1433rn February 18, 2011 12:35 AM

So they can take in more money. There are always people out there looking for the deal, which in this case is too good to be true! by DoNotBelieve February 18, 2011 8:58 AM

I’ve been watching this for several months and I must admit the Fly is dense. For a person to masquerade as an investigator and now a cop, something as simple as Arlington and XLV should have been easy to figure out. The guy is attending the Superbowl was my first thought. Also to have all these phony stories about traveling to Chicago during their worst snow storm ever to interrogating a member of COR to terrorist activities is way overboard. If you are actually involved in the process, you would know that everything that he has said contradicts what is actually going on. I want be surprise if he receives a knock at the door from the same people he declares to be working with for making such outlandish claims.

Every one of you should be ashamed of yourselves, especially the ones that allege to have no money invested. I can almost bet that you are the very reason many have stayed aboard with COR because if it gets this crazy for outsiders to show so much hatred in something that’s none of their business, than nothing but good can come from it.

If anyone is having a tough time waiting on their funding than may be this is your first rodeo but this too shall pass. I am a Partner and I choose to hang tough and the fee was small potatoes. by Conway20 February 18, 2011 9:00 AM

Seems like alot of time effort and risk for such a relatively small amount that is put in on the front end. by 1433rn February 18, 2011 9:05 AM

Conway20

If I may ask...How long have you been waiting for funding? by DoNotBelieve February 18, 2011 9:17 AM

C20

The thing is as was stated yesterday. Real VC don't operate in this manner, if you have ever had any dealings with them in the past. COR didn't even look at doing a Due Diligence. That is crazy. by DoNotBelieve February 18, 2011 9:21 AM

Why does it matter to you? You are not invested and you are the worst of the bunch. I there you ask me anything. It's amazing how you have more to say than a Partner. As the guy said earlier you are always ready to welcome someone in. Get lost! by Conway20 February 18, 2011 9:31 AM

Maybe you are DOD returned in another form. Just trying to be helpful. I do get to see all the messages, sorry don't get so testy. I won't ask you anymore questions.
You are very bossy for the new kid on the block!
If you have been watching for months, why are you just now speaking up? Ooops, sorry that was a question! by DoNotBelieve February 18, 2011 9:47 AM

I am far from being DOD but obviously he has your attention. You really don't understand that people like you makes it difficult for real players to speak about what's going on because you are all in the way. We don't need your two cents. Your time has run out anway by Conway20 February 18, 2011 10:00 AM

As I mentioned before and will reiterate: This blog has absolutely zero impact on COR Development Group, it's partners, or it's affiliates. This forum is an anonymous internet discussion where people began to share their grief in dealing with COR Development Group after long periods of time waiting for disbursement of Project funding. It has now turned in to an absolute embarrassment to both the supports and the doubters. This was a place for people to vent their frustrations and look for some answers. It has now become a place for those same people to become more aggravated, less informed, and more suspicious, by instigators whose identities are unknown. A few pertinent facts might put this in to scope for those parties who are interested in the FACTS and in the VERIFIABLE INFORMATION.

1) COR has not funded.

2) People connected to COR Development Group are posting here anonymously.

3) This will not end until the curtains are pulled back. by WakeUpNow February 18, 2011 10:53 AM

I am basically here to impart any knowledge I have regarding COR's operation in order to stop people from making the same mistake others have. I was trying to be helpful but everyone makes their own decision. Hopefully they will investigate some of what has been put forth on this blog, before they invest any money. by DoNotBelieve February 18, 2011 11:36 AM

Another passed so called deadline today. This time they used some trial version software to make it look more official. by 1433rn February 18, 2011 4:06 PM

Anybody get a wire transfer today?
I didn't think so...Now you all still beliving?!

by DoNotBelieve February 18, 2011 4:08 PM

I know many of you were expecting a wire transfer today.
My friend included, unfortunately he made deadline commitments thinking he would really get the money. This is why this COR scam is so harmful. I don't care what you all say, get on me if you want. It is a scam and nothing but a scam and it does harm people. I hope they, COR, get what they deserve...Bright Orange jumpsuits just like their buddy Ranger Ross! by DoNotBelieve February 18, 2011 4:12 PM

Ross is not in jail. I know for a fact he continues to be part of Cor email chains. (not saying he shouldnt be). by 1433rn February 18, 2011 4:24 PM

I can not wait for DOD and MDUDD to return to this forum with disinformation about why another has come and gone without any disbursements.

by WakeUpNow February 18, 2011 4:32 PM

Wait is over and so is this blog....GAME OVER. Believe what you want, but it is OVER!!!!!!!!

by mdudd February 18, 2011 4:37 PM

The day is not over, wires transpire all the way up through midnight...thatbeing said, many are still doubtful. But I would ask in the name of descency for all parties to reframe from using base level language, obscenities and insults. When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put aside childish things. (1 Corinthians 13:11)

by daysend February 18, 2011 4:40 PM

MUDD

Welcome back...thought you were done with blog.
Wait is not over, nobody here received any funding.
Did you det your funding,MDUDD? If you did you must be a privlidged character or just a COR BSer!

I don't know what banks you deal with daysend...but the banks here do not send wires till midnight.

by DoNotBelieve February 18, 2011 4:47 PM

I like WakeupNow's approach. Let the last thing that people read when researching this site is that Cor didn't fund again. Don't let the FACT that there are no FACTS or Funding get buried in the BS bantering.

by SeriouslyC'mon February 18, 2011 4:53 PM

SC'mon

I am assuming no funding for you either.
Good thought above.

As for Wire Transfers...Chase has a cutoff of 5:00PM.
I think they are a good barometer of what banks do, don't you? by DoNotBelieve February 18, 2011 5:05 PM

DNB,
Yes i did, as did others. Thanks for asking. It is a long process and takes time. Just because cash does not show up does not mean you were not funded. I do not think Chase was on the list of ledger to ledger transfers. So people may not see until Tuesday. But I repeat funding is happening and may be worked on for a while. I have been waiting of 18 months. How long has your friend been waiting for? I thought you said 6. That could be where he lays on the list.
By the way.
Banks transfer until midnite on Fridays. Especially on holiday weekends. I have recieved transfers at 4:00am. So again please do not put out misinformation...Remeber it is not a person but a computer that does the transfer once queued in the system. by mdudd February 18, 2011 5:16 PM

Mdudd

I would ask that you provide evidence if you wish to make your point. Words have no value in this forum.
If it is true that you've received a wire transfer from COR
take a screen shot of the transfer, blur out the sensitive account information, and post it to tinypic.com and link it here.

by WakeUpNow February 18, 2011 5:20 PM

Boy

You take the cake according to you I have been a broker, a disgruntled project victim a bill collector and oh yeah From the IRS.

You lied about your so called business you liedf about being funded you lied about just about everything you have typed on this blob.

When you are caught in a lie you retreat to bulling and making meanless threats and name calling. You sorry excuse of life I would feel for you except for all the good folks out there you have hurt by your lies and promises of pie in the sky.

Oh now you are to have us beleive you were at the Super Bowl thats a rich one. DoNotBeleive asked me on a lighter note about my pick and you jumped in talking . Oh slag you never said a word about being down here boy I would think you wouldn't miss a chance to share that with all the folk here . You know why you didn't CAUSE YOU WERE NEVER HERE YOU LYING SACK OF S#!T and thats a step down for the crap. I said I was investigating the cesspool that is called Cor and the asswipe AKA Alberto B. Colon you were the one that assumed all of the above. No one beleives a word of what you say here and I would venture to say real life as well.

Cor and all of the internet fronts that bare the name Alberto B. Colon are fronts there was another guy that was the head of this crap house of cards before I'll get the file and remind you of that fine up standing gentleman as well.

You have nothing but the memory of all the money you and the other dirtbags spent of those folks out there.

I see Slag #1 is using another screen name conway20 well cybil brings yet another one to the surface.

Ross Is out on bail and still has to face over 60 counts and beleive me he will be going to jail for a long time . hey slag have ya chatted with your ol buddy Ross lately.

EVERYONE OUT THERE IF YOU ARE STILL CONNECTED TO COR EITHER AS A VICTIM OR RANGER PLEASE I ASK YOU TO GO TO YOUR LOCAL POLICE AND THE FEDS TO GET YOUR CLAIM IN FOR POSSIBLE RECOVERY OF SOMETHING OR TO CLEAR YOUR NAME IF YOU HAVE BEEN DUPPED BY THIS SLAGS CLAIMING TO MAKE YOU RICH BEYOND YOUR WILDEST DREAMS AS A RANGER SITTING ON THE BOARDS OF THESE COMPANIES THEY HAVE STOLE FROM YOU ARE NOW AND IF YOU DO NOT CLEAR YOUR NAMES WILL BE AN ACCESSORY TO THE FACT IN THIS SCAM AND FRUAD. DON'T BELEIVE ME JUST KEEP GOING AND WHEN YOUR IN JAIL IT WILL BE TOO LATE. CALL A LAWYER AND ASK WHERE YOU STAND EXPLAINING THE WHOLE THING TO THEM by The fly February 18, 2011 5:21 PM

1433rn

I know he is not in jail right now. He was in jail and there were pictures of him in the newspaper in an orange jumsuit. I forgot you were new on the sight. I agree, he probably should be. by DoNotBelieve February 18, 2011 5:23 PM

MDUDD

I guess everybody here wants proof, as do I. Friend still no funding. By the way I called Chase, they told me 5:00 PM cutoff for Wire Transfers. it wasn't info from the internet.

How come not one other person besides you received funding...very interesting! by DoNotBelieve February 18, 2011 5:28 PM

Donotbelieve...Do you have a link?

The partners who are being duped are not going to be liable for whatever laws may be getting broken by these Cor guys.

Has anyone ever met Alberto? Where does he live? by 1433rn February 18, 2011 5:28 PM

1433rn

A link to what?
My friend has never met anyone except the Broker that put him in touch with COR and I am not sure he has met him face to face.
Don't know where he lives. Do know if you call any of the phone numbers, it is all automated and messages.
Never talk to anybody. by DoNotBelieve February 18, 2011 5:35 PM

Oh yea Slag

It was you that made the big to do about the airfields being closed and that your company's Hawker was grounded. After I corrected you with the truth on two parts one you nor your so called company has or for that matter never owned a hawker sp or any other. The Hawker we have was one of 8 siezed you know (RICO) something you will be hearing soon.

You are funny boy and you get around your on your way to see or visit someone here only one problem slag you lie there for you ain't got nothing and you ain't going any where but to jail.

Can you disprove anything I have stated here slag can you show any proof of Cor funding anyone anywhere in the world for that matter can you point out any REAL company not one that is just in the nightmare you call your mind that has been funded and is willing to provide real proof. NO NO NO NO NOPE NONE at all cause there are none ans there will never be any.

Hey it's coming up on March ain't it about time for another funding e-mail send out you know right after the big income tax refunds the funds will flow or wait because of all of the unstable countries overseas the funds will be delayed it is not up to Alberto. Hey slag did I give you guys some good lies to spread to your victims. Now if i hear of anything I have said here that you used I want my share boy (ROTFLMAO) by The fly February 18, 2011 5:35 PM

Fly

They already used those excuses... This was suppose to be the Big Funding Day...Didn't happen here, I know that for sure. Not internet gossip! by DoNotBelieve February 18, 2011 5:42 PM

He got his wire transfer at 4am Now thats funny. MDUDD or DoOrDie or whatever Boy y'all are funny if nothing else. I see you and if I or any of us are to beleive you are not DoOrDie are the only ones out there that got funded but all of the other victims out there have been receiving the same delay delay and now the others are to wait until Tuesday because of the holiday. What happens when tuesday comes and goes and not a drop in the bucket what excuse will you lie to the folks this time.

Y'all said you didn't like me well thats okay if thats all ya got by The fly February 18, 2011 5:47 PM

DoNotbeleive

There has been no transfer of any funds to any Victims from Cor.

All of there Accounts have been closed. We back traced the ones from the contracts and we looked at the few refund wires and those accounts were closed soon after the tranfers were made THATS A FACT NOT INTERNET BANTER ALSO.

Watch for the next in the Ross story it's going to be very interesting. by The fly February 18, 2011 6:01 PM

FLY

I really feel bad for my friend, because he actually earmarked this money today for other commitments. It is sad for people like him who are really going to be harmed by this.

You know Tuesday will just bring more excuses.

I think Conway20 is DOD, he writes the same way.
Nasty and trys to intimidate everyone. by DoNotBelieve February 18, 2011 6:12 PM

A link to the article that shows Ross H. in jail.

I was thinking about having a tech buddy of mine look up alberto's IP address to at least determine if he is in the States. by 1433rn February 18, 2011 6:16 PM

Ranger Ross deserves whatever he gets. Can't imagine the b.... on this guy to be out on bail and still doing what he is doing. Unbelievable!

Well I am going to go have a very cold, dirty, Martini and I will check back later. by DoNotBelieve February 18, 2011 6:16 PM

The billions of dollars committed by COR Development Group are monies that will stimulate local economies and create jobs. Main Streets all over are suffering as a result of the delays.

by WakeUpNow February 18, 2011 6:18 PM

1433rn

I will dig it out for you a little later. I do have it.
Going to have a drink then dinner. I will get back to you though. by DoNotBelieve February 18, 2011 6:19 PM

Fly,
You are an ignorant, uneducated simple minded idiot. Learn to read. I did not say the money came in at 4:00 am. Hey, maybe you can explain how COR is funding behind bars. That is becaue they are not. They are funding. No one is going to jail. No one is running away. Again I say to you, You were SWATTED again. You want facts, you have yet to prove one fact that you stated. Proof is COR is funding and not behind bars like you claimed they would be weeks ago.

Wake up now,

No reason to post my funding, for a bunch of people who not invested with COR. I have nothing to prove and no one to ansewr to here. I know what I have and that is all I need. DNB will learn soon enough from his "friend" about the funding.

Pretty funny how there are all of a sudden all of these new screen names. Either alot of interested partners or alot of people looking out for their friends...

Project Partners i wish you nothing but success in your projects.

Non-believers, it has been fun the past couple of months battling back and forth. Nothing left for me to say. Its OVER!!!!!! You guys have the weekend to still post your last minute comments, so hurry up. Get them in while you still can, becasue by Tuesday everyone will know the TRUTH and that is COR HAS FUNDED and wether you like it or not, it is something you are going to have to live with...... by mdudd February 18, 2011 6:43 PM

There is a very good reason for you to post your funding. To prove the legitimacy of the lender.

by WakeUpNow February 18, 2011 7:04 PM

MDUDD will never do that because it isn't there. Nobody said COR was in jail...YET!
Go ahead MDUDD show everybody some proof...Can't do it can you.
How come you are the only one in the Universe that was Funded?

WUPN

Because there is no legitimacy to this Lender...If that is what you want to call him?

Another threat...What's this over the weekend thing.
You going to go on another Profanity rant and get this shut down...I don't think so...You may get kiched off though!

It's Over all right...Cause you guys are going DOWN! by DoNotBelieve February 18, 2011 7:26 PM

1433rn

I have the links, I just don't know where they are off hand.
Just Google Ross O Haugen and it will take you to the Grand Forks Hearld article and the North Dakota securities article and more. If you can't find it let me know. by DoNotBelieve February 18, 2011 7:36 PM

You can also check Investor's Report or Ripoff Report. They all give you something. by DoNotBelieve February 18, 2011 7:38 PM

This just in, the wires "started" Friday 9 am EST but not finished during this "daysend." All of the project accounts may take much longer then even the daysend of Tyesday since nothing gets done Sat/Sunday/Monday...the burden of proof still lays will COR to produce what they have been working a "decade" on to complete. Another day another dollar.

Still if we are professionals in our field, angry or not, ripped off, or not, the belittling, and vapid and indignant words,insults and threats need to cease. Everyone, on both sides are upset, focus your energies on constructive outlets ie for naysayers...state facts and help the local authorities, for COR believers, prove your points facts, backed by evidance. Otherwise no matter whothe words come from its just a bunch of smack.

by daysend February 18, 2011 11:13 PM

daysend

Believe me I would got to the authorities if it was me invoved...unfortunately I am just a bystander with information from the person involved. I hope he finally realizes this not going to happen and does go to the authorities! You are right about one think it is all smack...Another BS of delays! This is a bad joke. These guys at COR are cruel! Sorry I say as I see it! by DoNotBelieve February 18, 2011 11:27 PM

MDudd:

You wrote

" Just because cash does not show up does not mean you were not funded. "
by mdudd February 18, 2011 5:16 PM

Seriously? C'mon man! I just funded you $10 million. Just because cash doesn't show up in your account doesn't mean that I didn't do it. I'll send you a bill for the interest since I said that it happened.

Conway20/DoD - Couldn't keep your word and leave the site for good could you?

by SeriouslyC'mon February 19, 2011 6:07 AM

SC'mon

Conway 20 is totally DOD. Read his comments, too much alike. Words, attitude, information, etc.
You know MDUDD wasn't going to return either. They should have thrown him off anyway for the profanity outburst. There is no need for that.

I know my friend did not receive a Penny let alone $100,000-millions! by DoNotBelieve February 19, 2011 8:36 AM

Unfortuantely you will never know whose who but what is painly evident is that you don't have a life. You are here 24/7 pretending to be someone you are not and responding to everyone that has something to say good or bad. You opps your friend have not heard from his ranger nor received a wire then maybe you opps your friend need to face reality. You opps your friend may have been unofficially dropped. Please don't waste your time trying to explain your reason for being here again becuase it's a lie no one believes. That DOD person that you are fanatical over is not refreshing this link every 3 minutes as you are anymore. I personally believed there was something mentally wrong with him to have done what he has on here. But to each their own.

You have way too much time on your hands to be analyzing writing styles and not get paid for it. by Conway20 February 19, 2011 9:32 AM

Conway20/DOD/MDUDD

Whoever you are? You are the lier. I have nothing to lie about. I am only here to impart information for whomever wants it. People for or against, I don't care.

You are so jealous because I have time on my hands...That is because my money is working for me, I am not waiting for Ficktishis Funding like you are!

Maybe my friend did get dropped, I don't know, actually I hope so, then he can get on with real life not fantasy land.

Except for Basketball today and golf not much going on anyway!

P.S. You are the only one pretending to be somone your not! by DoNotBelieve February 19, 2011 10:36 AM

Wow, that was unquestionably a rendition of a teenage girl tantrum. by Conway20 February 19, 2011 11:02 AM

These postings are atrocious. Do your browsers not have a spell checking feature? Why is there communication on here that resembles "I know you are but what am I?" from tween girls?

Let us take a moment to identify the only absolute truth:

1) COR has not funded

2) COR and its partners, brokers, and associates are showing their true colors on this forum by posting anonymously and making absolute fools of themselves.

3) Spelling and grammatical errors on this site reveal that many of the contributors are poorly educated or have no formal education at all thus are posting unintelligible drivel.

by WakeUpNow February 19, 2011 11:17 AM

Don't know who you are but you appear to be bored. This is a blog not a grammar class. I believe instigating was your word. Quit instigating. I have not read anything about you downing what The fly has said. Hummm.... by Conway20 February 19, 2011 11:57 AM

Why would I give any attention to what the fly has said when he is the most unintelligible of the whole lot? This is not instigating. This is stating FACTS:

1) COR has not funded

2) People on this forum are so phenomenally egotistical and maniacal that they identify any challenge as instigation.

3) I am bored

by WakeUpNow February 19, 2011 12:17 PM

C20

Every time you make a comment makes me think more and more you are transformed from a previous blogger.
Can't hide your true self! by DoNotBelieve February 19, 2011 1:00 PM

I have been involved with COR longer than some but I suspect, not as long as most of you here. I too have been endeavoring to ascertain the legitimacy and viability of COR. In order to arrive at some point of viability for this deal, I submit the following:

1. We were able to verify the COR Master Trust did exist and was funded to nearly $100B

2. We were able to ascertain the source of the money and it was a legitimate source with very deep pockets (although "why" this was being done still eludes us).

3. Through a source we were able to monitor events. From this source, we gleaned information, but had no way of validating that information. We were apprized A. COR had some hurdles and problems with the US Gov and ended up paying 15% of the money brought in to the US to the IRS, B. The money for the Trust was raised against the principal "investors" (sponsor would be a better word) holdings in gold, i.e., the "Sponsor" borrowed against his own gold to provide cash for these deals. D. I could communicate many more facts that would demonstrate to this forum our legitimacy, but that is not a goal and I do not think COR would appreciate the divulging of inside information that is not pertinent to any member of this forum or this deal at large.

4. Most of all anyone needs to know is obvious if one looks at things rationally. These are our thoughts on this subject submitted for your consideration: A. If this deal was a fraud, the time to collect the money, close up shop and leave town has long since passed. Think about that. Why is COR still here and communicating? As poor as those communications skills may be, they are still here… So it appears there exists within COR and/or the Sponsor an intention to get this deal done. For the time we have been involved, we have always been able to ascertain this intention existed in sound form and was the only reason we considered the deal viable, because little else made any sense. B. It is obvious COR has made some significant mistakes along the way here. It is just as obvious there must exist within COR certain people who are counter to this deal being done. Such people are hard to indentify in any group by any party but, COR has fired at least one person for egregious (intentional) errors made that harmed the viability of this deal and undermined the intentions of the Sponsor and those good people inside COR. C. In our viewpoint not all people inside COR are bad, but there still exists a hidden one or few who are antagonistic to this deal. Such parties can also exist in the law firms used and in the Banks. (I submit there are those on this forum who would kill this deal if they thought it was viable and had the opportunity.) D. Alberto, though seemingly a decent and intelligent person, has obviously made some serious errors as CEO of COR. His confront on communications is low as is his confront on allowing their exists in his own group people who are sabotaging this deal. I consider Alberto intelligent enough to run COR, but lacking sufficient experience/training and confront to be a great CEO.

Bear in mind though, Alberto was/is not in control of when he receives money for disbursement. That came from the Sponsor. Alberto was not in control of the US Gov and all the problems they raised however, Alberto is the person who takes the heat for everything. This is not to say Alberto handled everything perfectly. It is easy to sit in an armchair and second-guess another’s actions especially with hindsight, but the truth is Alberto could obviously have handled things better and has also taken the brunt for things not under his control. I don’t see him as much different than some of those on this forum, albeit a bit more class.

This forum was started by common people who came together with a common purpose and who had one company in common, COR, as a common complaint. These forums are formed, ostensibly, for the purpose of sharing and collecting information for the betterment of all.

Of course one is free to voice an opinion, but once voiced, opinion alone does not serve a higher purpose. Make a case based on facts or intelligent analytical conjecture, but for your own sake stop degrading everything.

This forum has degenerated into a free for all against each other. Rather than being a solution, you have become the problem. You men here dramatize precisely what is wrong with humanity and why systems and deals (such as the one you are engaged in) fail. Rather than seeking and employing optimum solutions in a sane rational manner, you embrace the negative and worst. You do this because you choose to. On your own, by yourself and in your own free will you made each other targets and engaged in attack. COR should have been the “enemy,” if an enemy was truly required, but you people made each other the enemy and degraded this forum almost as low as it can go. Unfortunately, you are part of a larger pattern rather than an isolated incident, if that can possibly make you feel any better.

This is the problem with humanity and is one of the reasons why this planet is facing catastrophic failure. (Just go look.) There is no problem here other than us, and I do not excuse myself. Just please back up and off for a moment. COR appears to have the intention to get these deals done. They obviously are receiving some counter-intention. They are as imperfect as you here dramatize yourselves to be. Show a little reason and compassion. This is obvious stuff here, but whether they fund or not and even if it all turns out to be a fraud, try to be of some service to each other. What else is there? We are going to be reduced to needing help and relying on each other for survival soon enough. Might as well start here. If you men can do it, there is hope. If not, there is none. It’s just like that.

BTW, if Ross Haugen is in jail, how is he able to be free and working for COR. Perhaps it’s a different Ross Haugen?

by StopMakingSense February 19, 2011 2:39 PM

StopMakingSense

You have now satisfied curiosity. You have provided solid information that is seemingly verifiable. For those so inclined they now have the ability to back check your facts. You have indeed identified a decline which is prevalent in society today. We all share this responsibility. by WakeUpNow February 19, 2011 3:53 PM

Thank you StopMakingSense. by Conway20 February 19, 2011 4:03 PM

StopMakingSense

BTW You need to read all the messages correctly.
Same person Ranger ROH.
We didn't say he was in jail... He at one time was in jail...He is currently out on bail.Actually a good question by you...How is able to be working for COR?
When he was arrested for over 50 felony counts for defrauding people out of over 3 million dollars and also in trouble with the SEC for other violations.
Some people have all the luck!

Check earlier messages, especially one dated December 10, 2010. In a complaint filed, their is a list of COR people involved.

by DoNotBelieve February 19, 2011 4:08 PM

@DoNotBelieve
Mr. Bieser did not make a complaint to anyone other than online. He dropped the names of individuals involved with COR when he WAS onboard. Maybe I’m reading your post incorrectly, but it appears that you are indicating that the list of individuals had something to do with Mr. Haugen’s situation. If that is the case you are very wrong.

I would suggest that you read StopMakingSense post one more time. There was a point that I feel you did not get or don’t want to get. by Conway20 February 19, 2011 4:54 PM

I was not indicating that the individuals were involved with Mr. Haugen in his previous dealings. I was just letting him know it was the same person and the list of names associated with COR were all there in one message.
I was clarifying the BTW from StopMakingSense. by DoNotBelieve February 19, 2011 5:53 PM

StopMakingSense...

You are exactly right. My partners and I have also confirmed most of the same things you have found with COR and the process in general.

I stopped commenting on this site because it is overrun with those who will always "talk" but never "do" in this life. The "95 Percenters" that will always work for the "5 Percenters". And that's okay because we need them to do the great work they do individually - whether that is to handle my bookkeeping or fertilize my garden.

Our funding is here as well so we'll be off this board and up to our necks in work beginning Monday.

Life is always good. Sometimes you just have to wait for it.

Thanks for your input SMS. by State of Texas February 19, 2011 5:59 PM

@State of Texas
Let us not forget President's Day. Other than that, I'm with you. by Conway20 February 19, 2011 6:50 PM

Oh, Thank You! You're right. I get one more day off! by State of Texas February 19, 2011 7:58 PM

Ok, call me skeptical, which I am. I know you are going to jump all over me, I am used to it.

How come out of all the people who have come to this blog...MDUDD and StateofTexas are the only two who are expecting their funding to begin. And even MDUDD admits the money hasn't even shown up whatever that is?

There have been at least 3 with my friend 4 people who received nothing but messages full of rhetoric. No funding.

It stirkes me as curious, that the two who reported to us, are the same two who all along have been riding the COR company line. And have been accused by some of being several names taken on by one person.

I am just throwing this out there!

by DoNotBelieve February 20, 2011 10:45 AM

All stress begins with one negative thought. One thought that went unchecked, and then more thoughts came and more, until stress manifested. The effect is stress, but the cause was negative thinking, and it all began with one little negative thought. No matter what you might have manifested, you can change it....with one positive thought and then another...........

@DONotBelieve: Perhaps you should start by changing your Username--it reflects the negative energy that flows within you and transfers on to this blog. I recently read a positive entry by someone, and immediately you tried to bring on the negativity..If you have nothing positive to bring here, why even bother.. Your Username Says it all and we believe that you are who you are. But you can change-- by BostonBird33 February 20, 2011 1:11 PM

Unfortunately this gentleman is undoubtedly a partner that is depressed behind this funding process. I cannot imagine anyone being that negative about something they have no part in, but it appears that his negative thinking has been self-fulfilling for him. The negative world of his imagination has shaped a negative world that is real and one that he is forced to live in. For him to find change he must first escape that world he has created around him. by Conway20 February 20, 2011 1:58 PM

DNB----No matter what the difficulty is, no matter where it is, no matter who is affected, you have no patient but yourself; you have nothing to do but convince yourself of the truth which you desire to see manifested. by BostonBird33 February 20, 2011 2:22 PM

What a load of crap

DoOrDie and whatever other names you go under here. Boy you are some slice of cake son. You tell me I have misstated the truth or facts here and yet you and your company of other names have not proven one single request to prove Cor has a dime to give out.

Where are all of the forms that are to accompany all of these funds cause let me tell you one thing slag you in your vast cesspool of lies forgot boy if you do not have the proper paperwork in place and attempt to transfer the so called millions into these poor victims account without that the IRS and the FEDS will be all over that bank as a matter of fact if that type of money hits the banks from any out of country bank red flags will go off everywhere.

I am not explaining this to you slags I am giving those here that really need to know how your BS won't work There is no money that will hit the banks tuesday or any other day for that matter and no matter what BS line or here let me explain how Cor won't share with those non Project victims.

Ross is out on bond and Yes has cut a deal and YES those 4 that make up Cor will be in the same boat.

I once again ask (IF THERE ARE THOSE OF YOU OUT THERE THAT HAVE DIRECT CONTACT WITH THE SO CALLED RANGERS TO PLEAD WITH THEM TO TURN THEMSELFS IN TALK WITH THE LOCAL AND FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENGIES TO CLEAR THERE NAMES AND HELP SOME OF THE VICTIMS TO GET SOME OF THERE MONEY BACK)As i posted earlier I fear that there will be no recovery of funds at this point maybe pennys on the dollars if that.

I guess DoOrDie was with State of texas when he said he was here. Wait I know that he was cause they are the same person. I see he has added yet another to the long line of screen names as well or is it two more (ROTFLMAO) by The fly February 20, 2011 4:39 PM

Well Mududd

Son you need a time out boy is it getting to ya slag are you about to bust a vessel calm down boy take a deep breath and lay off that dope for a change.

Cor will funds yes you are correct (Right) and the clouds will open up and billions and billions of dollars will just fall from the sky and pour into these waiting victims accounts.

Son you need real help boy. This has gone way beyond the lie and the self beleif this is really really sick.

Really all kidding aside Get some help young man please it's already too late for the victims but you can at lease get some mental help for yourself by The fly February 20, 2011 4:50 PM

Thats was also for all of the other names you go under as well.

by The fly February 20, 2011 4:58 PM

(The Fly)
I once believed COR was not going to fund, but all that has change. COR, unprofessional as they may appear from time to time has made great strides.
You are a disgrace and not only should your be band, you should be sought out and charge with everything possible. Everything you have ever posted here has been shameful and a lie. I’m positive your close friend donotbelieve feels the same, but he uses you to support his hateful posts. Both of you are a disgrace. by GApeach1 February 20, 2011 5:24 PM

This is for TheFly. Because he has trouble reading:

StopMakingSense...

You are exactly right. My partners and I have also confirmed most of the same things you have found with COR and the process in general.

I stopped commenting on this site because it is overrun with those who will always "talk" but never "do" in this life. The "95 Percenters" that will always work for the "5 Percenters". And that's okay because we need them to do the great work they do individually - whether that is to handle my bookkeeping or fertilize my garden.

Our funding is here as well so we'll be off this board and up to our necks in work beginning Monday.

Life is always good. Sometimes you just have to wait for it.

Thanks for your input SMS.

PS Fly - You'll be the one fertilizing my garden. by State of Texas February 20, 2011 6:31 PM

Well thats a very interesting take on the thread here I have asked for Proof and have not seen any I have investigated the whole Cor mess ans found nothing but dead ends that have been put up by those 4 that make up the whole Cor and other internet scams. There are no lisings anywhere for these upstanding Folk (JOKE) nor is there any indication that they have the ability to provide anything other then the empty promises they have for the 3 years they have been doing this and more.

You claim to know them well if you do or if this is yet another cybil moment I plead with you to seek real help please. I ask if you are why you say you are to ask the rest of this sad sick bunch of crooks to turn themselfs in and save the tax payers a lot of money and time by doing so.

As for friends here I do not have any there are a few that either agree with the post I have left here because all i have is stated the truth unlike your so called Buddies at Cor.

Your post sounds so much like all of the others here I am of course pointing out the writting style makes me say hummmmmmmmmm.

Now as for being a disgrace well you explain how pointing out how Cor has BSed stole and lyed to it's co called Project victims a disgrace.

You explain how asking for the smallest of proof to support there so called claims of Billions in funds a disgrace.

You explain that when they are confronted or caught in yet lie after lie all posted by them I would like to add and the funding dates that have come and gone for ever are all of Cor's doing

You explain that NO ONE can speak directly to anyone from Cor to include the all great and powerful AL-bert-toe Colon.

You explain as you say they are not the most business compliant of the business world then why would they (4) members of Cor act and sound like brattu children

You explain how and why as many Companies that The all and powerful Al-Bert-Toe is either the head of or chair of is known by NO ONE IN the REAL BUSINESS WORLD

You explain how this so called company and the others that the ALL AND POWERFUL COR Team and company have NO EIN or TIN NO listing with the SEC or ANYWHERE ON OR OFF WALL STREET

You can explain how this Vast empire is all run from 3 or four UPS Mail boxes.

You Explain how and why all of the above I would be as well as the other few that are here to understand the need to lie for no reason and to steal these folks money promising the world only to keep the lie alive three or four months at a time.

Well I/We are vwaiting please feel free to start anytime by The fly February 20, 2011 6:36 PM

Howdy Slag

I see you desided to change user names son you never dissappoint me boy. As sure as god made little green apples you are like clock work with your cybil act. Son do yourself a favor seek out and get help real mental help boy. Well son if'in y'all want I'll be spreading manure and turning the little garden I like to putter around in march. Y'all welcome to come on over and help we always make a little to do y'all know texas style. So explain to me how y'all gona get funded on a holiday and if this is to be beleived as it is not but at this point what the heak. So let me get this right you have already gotten your funding or is it you will be getting your funding this monday or tuesday or ??????????? Son I been trying to make sense out of this catty whompus from the start and it all comes up one way y'al are just a bunch a lying theifin crooks.Thats as polite as I can put it

by The fly February 20, 2011 6:54 PM

Son Don't get mad just SHOW US THE MONEY BOY AND THATS WILL DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SNIP AND CLIP AND SHOW US THE CHECK OR THE BIG COMPANY MEDIA ANNOUNCEMENT ON TV AND WELL I KNOW JUST WAIT UNTIL TOMORROW OR TUESDAY OR ????????????????? AND THE SOGA CONTINUES by The fly February 20, 2011 7:08 PM

Conway20 or which other user name you want to go by.

Your wrong about the complaint not being filed there was and still is and there was yet another one filed this pass friday. Thats no internet BS thats real boy

Like I stated above show us the money ?????????

by The fly February 20, 2011 7:35 PM

Let's keep our eyes peeled on the local news in Texas for any suicides due to the internet. Come Tuesday he will without doubt kill himself. This guy is extremely delusional. by Conway20 February 20, 2011 8:06 PM

Allow me to post StopMakingSense post again. It should not get lost among all this nonsense.

----------------------------------------------------

I have been involved with COR longer than some but I suspect, not as long as most of you here. I too have been endeavoring to ascertain the legitimacy and viability of COR. In order to arrive at some point of viability for this deal, I submit the following:

1. We were able to verify the COR Master Trust did exist and was funded to nearly $100B

2. We were able to ascertain the source of the money and it was a legitimate source with very deep pockets (although "why" this was being done still eludes us).

3. Through a source we were able to monitor events. From this source, we gleaned information, but had no way of validating that information. We were apprized A. COR had some hurdles and problems with the US Gov and ended up paying 15% of the money brought in to the US to the IRS, B. The money for the Trust was raised against the principal "investors" (sponsor would be a better word) holdings in gold, i.e., the "Sponsor" borrowed against his own gold to provide cash for these deals. D. I could communicate many more facts that would demonstrate to this forum our legitimacy, but that is not a goal and I do not think COR would appreciate the divulging of inside information that is not pertinent to any member of this forum or this deal at large.

4. Most of all anyone needs to know is obvious if one looks at things rationally. These are our thoughts on this subject submitted for your consideration: A. If this deal was a fraud, the time to collect the money, close up shop and leave town has long since passed. Think about that. Why is COR still here and communicating? As poor as those communications skills may be, they are still here… So it appears there exists within COR and/or the Sponsor an intention to get this deal done. For the time we have been involved, we have always been able to ascertain this intention existed in sound form and was the only reason we considered the deal viable, because little else made any sense. B. It is obvious COR has made some significant mistakes along the way here. It is just as obvious there must exist within COR certain people who are counter to this deal being done. Such people are hard to indentify in any group by any party but, COR has fired at least one person for egregious (intentional) errors made that harmed the viability of this deal and undermined the intentions of the Sponsor and those good people inside COR. C. In our viewpoint not all people inside COR are bad, but there still exists a hidden one or few who are antagonistic to this deal. Such parties can also exist in the law firms used and in the Banks. (I submit there are those on this forum who would kill this deal if they thought it was viable and had the opportunity.) D. Alberto, though seemingly a decent and intelligent person, has obviously made some serious errors as CEO of COR. His confront on communications is low as is his confront on allowing their exists in his own group people who are sabotaging this deal. I consider Alberto intelligent enough to run COR, but lacking sufficient experience/training and confront to be a great CEO.

Bear in mind though, Alberto was/is not in control of when he receives money for disbursement. That came from the Sponsor. Alberto was not in control of the US Gov and all the problems they raised however, Alberto is the person who takes the heat for everything. This is not to say Alberto handled everything perfectly. It is easy to sit in an armchair and second-guess another’s actions especially with hindsight, but the truth is Alberto could obviously have handled things better and has also taken the brunt for things not under his control. I don’t see him as much different than some of those on this forum, albeit a bit more class.

This forum was started by common people who came together with a common purpose and who had one company in common, COR, as a common complaint. These forums are formed, ostensibly, for the purpose of sharing and collecting information for the betterment of all.

Of course one is free to voice an opinion, but once voiced, opinion alone does not serve a higher purpose. Make a case based on facts or intelligent analytical conjecture, but for your own sake stop degrading everything.

This forum has degenerated into a free for all against each other. Rather than being a solution, you have become the problem. You men here dramatize precisely what is wrong with humanity and why systems and deals (such as the one you are engaged in) fail. Rather than seeking and employing optimum solutions in a sane rational manner, you embrace the negative and worst. You do this because you choose to. On your own, by yourself and in your own free will you made each other targets and engaged in attack. COR should have been the “enemy,” if an enemy was truly required, but you people made each other the enemy and degraded this forum almost as low as it can go. Unfortunately, you are part of a larger pattern rather than an isolated incident, if that can possibly make you feel any better.

This is the problem with humanity and is one of the reasons why this planet is facing catastrophic failure. (Just go look.) There is no problem here other than us, and I do not excuse myself. Just please back up and off for a moment. COR appears to have the intention to get these deals done. They obviously are receiving some counter-intention. They are as imperfect as you here dramatize yourselves to be. Show a little reason and compassion. This is obvious stuff here, but whether they fund or not and even if it all turns out to be a fraud, try to be of some service to each other. What else is there? We are going to be reduced to needing help and relying on each other for survival soon enough. Might as well start here. If you men can do it, there is hope. If not, there is none. It’s just like that.

BTW, if Ross Haugen is in jail, how is he able to be free and working for COR. Perhaps it’s a different Ross Haugen?

by StopMakingSense February 19, 2011 2:39 PM

by Conway20 February 20, 2011 8:17 PM

Boy what a load of horse crap who has veriflied what and if that was the fact then I am DAMN sure you or who ever you log in as would have pasted that all over this blog and while all of this so called funds are being made ready why is it that none of the Victims that have been waiting for soooooooooooooo loooooooooooooong have seen this so called proof. Ok tuesday it is Damn boy Ross is out on bail son can't you even understand that and what is it to you if he is or ain't unless of course you are who I know you to be just useing another screen name.

And it's the same Ross.

Yep i will agree with you there as to the problem it is slags like you that pray on the hopes and dreams of the good and trusting folk out there and when you slags get caught or cornered in a lie you start swinging at anything with in reach. I said i felt sorry for you and your lot but In looking at what is beening done to the good folks you are scamming I hope they put y'all in a hole so dark and deep that hell would be a giant step up Dang thats just plain sad and harmful.

Some advice don't smoke so much dope before you deside to post here. I'm just making a suggestion by The fly February 20, 2011 8:53 PM

Fly,
Some advice for you, Learn the English Language....
You POS. by mdudd February 20, 2011 9:02 PM

DNB,

Unfortunately you are reaching again. No I only have one username. I need to figure out how to change it to FUNDED..... by mdudd February 20, 2011 9:40 PM

Dear fly,
Who are you that you need proof of something which you have nothing to do with.

Dear DNB,
Who are you that you need proof of something which you have nothing to do with.

Oh yes! It is SO important to us to get proof as quickly as possible to a couple of loud, whiny, nobodies on an internet message board so that... so that what? Oh that's right... DNB, you are desperately saving a "friend". Bullshit. And fly, you are desperate to save the rest of the world. Bullshit.

The foolish will never be able to make sense of what the wise do or say. We could photo-copy and post proof everyday for the next year and you would discredit everything you see. That is why C20 explained everything in the language he did. He knew the intelligent would understand it while the foolish keep yelling that the sky is falling. Oh... and yes, that everyone on this board is Alberto.

You don't get it. This board isn't for you. This board is for me, Mdudd, Conway20 and anyone else capable of understanding things at a higher level.

We know it frustrates you guys because you wish we would believe you.

We don't.

You guys won't be on this board this time next week.

by State of Texas February 20, 2011 9:59 PM

State of Texas,

The word you were looking for is jealous. The 2 of them are very jealous. by mdudd February 20, 2011 10:10 PM

NOT JEALOUS!!! Nothing to be jealous of. Like I said,"My money is secure and working for me, I am not working for it."

I will come on this blog and admit I was wrong, when and only when, I see the funded money in my friends account and actually in his hands. I at that time will believe it and not one minute sooner. Since none of you are willing or able to show any proof, ( because there is none). I will know for sure if and when he is ever funded, and I will be honest about and let everybody know. Until then, it is not real!

by DoNotBelieve February 20, 2011 11:45 PM

THE BOARD IS FOR EVERYONE AND ANYONE WHO WANTS TO BE ON HERE. YOU THINK YOU ARE PRIVILGED FOR SOME REASON...I GUESS SO, SINCE YOU ARE THE ONLY ONES CLAIMING FUNDING OUT OF THIS WHOLE 6 MONTHS OF BLOGGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND YOU WONDER WHY PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE YOU.............! by DoNotBelieve February 20, 2011 11:51 PM

Wow someone is a little sensitive. Must have struck a nerve. Now log in as the fly and go on your tantrum... by mdudd February 21, 2011 8:58 AM

DUDD,

Did you spend part of the $10M I put in your account? Until you can spend the money, you don't really have it!

by SeriouslyC'mon February 21, 2011 9:08 AM

What? by mdudd February 21, 2011 9:36 AM

I have been involved with COR longer than some but I suspect, not as long as most of you here. I too have been endeavoring to ascertain the legitimacy and viability of COR. In order to arrive at some point of viability for this deal, I submit the following:

1. We were able to verify the COR Master Trust did exist and was funded to nearly $100B

2. We were able to ascertain the source of the money and it was a legitimate source with very deep pockets (although "why" this was being done still eludes us).

3. Through a source we were able to monitor events. From this source, we gleaned information, but had no way of validating that information. We were apprized A. COR had some hurdles and problems with the US Gov and ended up paying 15% of the money brought in to the US to the IRS, B. The money for the Trust was raised against the principal "investors" (sponsor would be a better word) holdings in gold, i.e., the "Sponsor" borrowed against his own gold to provide cash for these deals. D. I could communicate many more facts that would demonstrate to this forum our legitimacy, but that is not a goal and I do not think COR would appreciate the divulging of inside information that is not pertinent to any member of this forum or this deal at large.

4. Most of all anyone needs to know is obvious if one looks at things rationally. These are our thoughts on this subject submitted for your consideration: A. If this deal was a fraud, the time to collect the money, close up shop and leave town has long since passed. Think about that. Why is COR still here and communicating? As poor as those communications skills may be, they are still here… So it appears there exists within COR and/or the Sponsor an intention to get this deal done. For the time we have been involved, we have always been able to ascertain this intention existed in sound form and was the only reason we considered the deal viable, because little else made any sense. B. It is obvious COR has made some significant mistakes along the way here. It is just as obvious there must exist within COR certain people who are counter to this deal being done. Such people are hard to indentify in any group by any party but, COR has fired at least one person for egregious (intentional) errors made that harmed the viability of this deal and undermined the intentions of the Sponsor and those good people inside COR. C. In our viewpoint not all people inside COR are bad, but there still exists a hidden one or few who are antagonistic to this deal. Such parties can also exist in the law firms used and in the Banks. (I submit there are those on this forum who would kill this deal if they thought it was viable and had the opportunity.) D. Alberto, though seemingly a decent and intelligent person, has obviously made some serious errors as CEO of COR. His confront on communications is low as is his confront on allowing their exists in his own group people who are sabotaging this deal. I consider Alberto intelligent enough to run COR, but lacking sufficient experience/training and confront to be a great CEO.

Bear in mind though, Alberto was/is not in control of when he receives money for disbursement. That came from the Sponsor. Alberto was not in control of the US Gov and all the problems they raised however, Alberto is the person who takes the heat for everything. This is not to say Alberto handled everything perfectly. It is easy to sit in an armchair and second-guess another’s actions especially with hindsight, but the truth is Alberto could obviously have handled things better and has also taken the brunt for things not under his control. I don’t see him as much different than some of those on this forum, albeit a bit more class.

This forum was started by common people who came together with a common purpose and who had one company in common, COR, as a common complaint. These forums are formed, ostensibly, for the purpose of sharing and collecting information for the betterment of all.

Of course one is free to voice an opinion, but once voiced, opinion alone does not serve a higher purpose. Make a case based on facts or intelligent analytical conjecture, but for your own sake stop degrading everything.

This forum has degenerated into a free for all against each other. Rather than being a solution, you have become the problem. You men here dramatize precisely what is wrong with humanity and why systems and deals (such as the one you are engaged in) fail. Rather than seeking and employing optimum solutions in a sane rational manner, you embrace the negative and worst. You do this because you choose to. On your own, by yourself and in your own free will you made each other targets and engaged in attack. COR should have been the “enemy,” if an enemy was truly required, but you people made each other the enemy and degraded this forum almost as low as it can go. Unfortunately, you are part of a larger pattern rather than an isolated incident, if that can possibly make you feel any better.

This is the problem with humanity and is one of the reasons why this planet is facing catastrophic failure. (Just go look.) There is no problem here other than us, and I do not excuse myself. Just please back up and off for a moment. COR appears to have the intention to get these deals done. They obviously are receiving some counter-intention. They are as imperfect as you here dramatize yourselves to be. Show a little reason and compassion. This is obvious stuff here, but whether they fund or not and even if it all turns out to be a fraud, try to be of some service to each other. What else is there? We are going to be reduced to needing help and relying on each other for survival soon enough. Might as well start here. If you men can do it, there is hope. If not, there is none. It’s just like that.

BTW, if Ross Haugen is in jail, how is he able to be free and working for COR. Perhaps it’s a different Ross Haugen?

by StopMakingSense February 19, 2011 2:39 PM

by Conway20 February 21, 2011 9:45 AM

MDUDD

Unlike you I don't have more than one username.

Conway20

We don't need to read this post for a third time, once was enough! Big Deal!

by DoNotBelieve February 21, 2011 9:55 AM

MDUDD

You don't believe us...That is a total joke, nobody believes you as evidence by all the posts of people who have not been funded. You are really full of yourself.
Dream on...! by DoNotBelieve February 21, 2011 9:59 AM

It's a big deal that you love to hate. Release your demons and escape that negative world and I promise you will find peace. by Conway20 February 21, 2011 10:03 AM

C20

You are full of yourself too, enough with the Psycobabble.
My 1st degree was in Psychology, I know more than you will ever know. by DoNotBelieve February 21, 2011 10:12 AM

Nobody is talking about hate here, you must be paranoid.

Everybod is talking about Proof! There is none!

As SeriuoslyC'mon said,"Until you can spend the money you don't really have."

by DoNotBelieve February 21, 2011 10:20 AM

DNB,

Great degree. You should go have your head examined. Kind of funny, that you are a shrink with an alter ego like the fly. Makes alot of sense. To bad your degree was not in business, because than you can mind your own....OMG wait.. I got it. "Your friend" is a client. You want him to feel the way he does. Question everything. How else will you get him to keep coming back. THAT IS LOW. Always said you were low life. Just confirmed.. New Business,with my FUNDING will start after the holiday, but thanks for asking. Glad to see your are concrened. You must want me as a client. You should change your name to good samaritan. Always worried about everyone else.
BTW, I do not hate anyone here. I just think that there are a few non believers and 1 IDIOT (FLY). I know the game is over and really do not care what the non believers have to say. The last post on this site will. GAME OVER!!!! COR FUNDS. by mdudd February 21, 2011 10:46 AM

@DoNotBelieve
Why are you so hostile towards everyone that believes in COR? Why should you receive proof? The only folks that need proof or evidence are those that are invested. Are you invested? As for as the information you provided, we have had that long before you thought you discovered something. So why do you share that with every new blogger? Do you realize not one positive blogger replies back to you in gratitude? Do you really care for your friend or are you trying to sabotage his dream? by Conway20 February 21, 2011 10:51 AM

Please address DoNotBelieve as DR. DoNotBelieve.
BTW, weren't you the one who called me a scumbag a while back (when someone used a different username, spelled differently than yours,DoNotBeleive to be correct) and you did not even notice. You went on about how me or DOD hacked your account and called us both "scumbags". Funny how you forgot about that and you called me unprofessional. by mdudd February 21, 2011 10:57 AM

MilkDudd

You need to read more carefully, I said,"My 1st Degree was in Psychology." Have more than one degree, Business of course and entrepreneural degrees. Never said I was a shrink...You really need to read more carefully.

The hate comment came from Conway20 and was directed back to him. I don't hate anyone on here, how could anyone say that, we don't even know these people.

As for COR funding, still no proof. My friend is my friend, you don't know, it could be someone close to me like a Fater, a Brother, a Father-in-Law. I am concerned about people I care about. Most people think that is a good trait unlike you. Who obviously doesn't care about anybody but yourself.

The Game as you call it, will be over for me, when as I stated yesterday...I see actual funds in my friends hands that he can actually spend/use. I will come to this board and state that fact, not until then. by DoNotBelieve February 21, 2011 11:00 AM

Dr. DNB,
I used to have a little respect for you, but the more this goes on, the respect has dwindled away.
As C20 said,
There is nothing to prove to you. You are not an invested partner. Have nothing to gain. Have nothing to lose. "Your friend"/client is fine.
This week will but all of your doubts to rest.
Now hurry up and log in as the FLY. Post some stupid comments. by mdudd February 21, 2011 11:01 AM

Dr. DNB,
Should have went for a common sense degree. The others are like toilet paper. I know of many successful people who never went to college.
How do we know that you have all of those degrees. Prove them. Case closed!!!!!! by mdudd February 21, 2011 11:05 AM

MDUDD

You know darn well somebody fooled with the username on purpose. Whether it was you DOD or somebody else we will never know, pretty childish though to say the least.
You are right about one thing, I didn't notice the misspelling, I was angry and acted hastily, someone did it to cause trouble. by DoNotBelieve February 21, 2011 11:07 AM

DUDD

Look who is talking about proof...That is a joke. People have been asking you for proof for months and you have shown none. I guess you will just have to take my word on that just like you tell everybody here who wants proof.
Read...Not a Dr. never said I was. by DoNotBelieve February 21, 2011 11:10 AM

MDUDD

By the way, it is should have gone, not should have went,
you must be one of the no college degree people! by DoNotBelieve February 21, 2011 11:12 AM

MDUDD
Actually that isn't even college, that should have been learned in grade school, maybe you didn't make it that far. by DoNotBelieve February 21, 2011 11:16 AM

I will refrain to comment on some of the more personal anecdotes from today and yesterday but wanted to add some food for thought.

1) COR has not funded one penny

2) There is no value in posting inflammatory remarks on this website for the naysayer or the believers.

3) There is no verifiable information regarding COR online.

by WakeUpNow February 21, 2011 11:40 AM

Let's stop the foolish name calling and get back to the FACTS. Cor has not funded. Madoff sent people regular accounting statements that showed that they had millions, turns out that they were fake. Cor has funded just because their computer program shows monenies have been allocated? Nice try. Cor isn't real until they fund the dollars to which they have agreed and not the pennies that they might send one day this week.

Dudd, you said that this week will put all of our doubts to rest. Didn't you mean last week? After all, you were one of the people who claimed that they funded already.

I love the new openess about the process and the sponsor. I wonder just how many people were told that the funding wasn't in Alberto's hands but rather an unidentified third party? That might have changed some minds about sending in "deposits".

Well, we'll have to wait and see if we get the very small deposits sometime this week. Then we'll all go quiet for a while before coming back to ask if anyone actually got the real funds as promised. If it takes this long to get thousands, how long will it take to get the millions?

by SeriouslyC'mon February 21, 2011 11:41 AM

MDUDD

How come it is people who have never gone to college, always say, "I know of many successful people who never went to college." Your quote, must be your case, although don't have any proof you are succesful for that matter! by DoNotBelieve February 21, 2011 11:44 AM

You two are right. It just gets me so aggravated...I get caught up in it.

As to the one comment by SC'mon. About two weeks ago or so my friend did receive an Email stating the release of funds was not up to Alberto, but that was just recently with this info. His question back to them Ranger/COR was then who does have the authority to release the funds? Never got an answer.
My concern would also be that this money was coming from an unitentified party and also from outside the US.
From whom and from where? by DoNotBelieve February 21, 2011 11:54 AM

I am not speculating. I am providing facts.

1) COR has not funded.

2) The internet has no verifiable information on the legitimacy of COR.

3)ZERO dollars have been transferred by the Lender to the Project Partners.

4) People on this forum make inflammatory accusations without providing evidence for their claims.

5) COR will fund if legitimate

6) If it is a scam: COR and associates will suffer the consequences of the written laws. by WakeUpNow February 21, 2011 12:14 PM

This is just a thought, "if real" COR would be 5 times larger/active the top VC firm listed here.

SC,
I WAS FUNDED FRIDAY!!!!!! OTHERS WERE FUNDED FRIDAY!!!!!
NOT EVERYONE WAS FUNDED FRIDAY!!!!! THAT IS WHY I SAID THIS WEEK WILL BE IT!!!!
The reason for the caps is not to yell or scream but so that you can stop trying to twist words around.. Make sure you can get the point. No one who was FUNDED will post it here. It is nobody's business but their own. If you are a project partner, and were NOT FUNDED, it will becoming to you this week... You can believe or not believe it. That is your choice.
WUN,
YOU ARE WRONG!!!! COR HAS FUNDED!!!!!
By the way, COR is not a lender. They are not a VC. Learn what COR is doing and than make the correct statements.
You are correct, The internet has and will never have any verifiable information on COR. They are private and will always stay that way.
Dr.DNB,
I do have a college degree in computer science. Thank you for asking. I do know alot of people that are successful that never went to college. Like I said, I guess you will not prove all of the degrees you calim so I will have to take your word for it. You will not post any information about yourself here and rightfully so. Sound familiar. BTW LIER is spelled LIAR. FYI by mdudd February 21, 2011 12:38 PM

Summer Heat,
COR is not a venture Capital company. If you were a project partner you would know that....So I guess another person here with no Money invested...

WUN,SC,DR.DNB,
Please read the statment Sop making Sense again. I understand it may be a bit wordy for you guys and you are skeptical. He answered who, what, why, where, when, and how. It was a very insiteful piece (a little to much info for the internet for me) but explained mostly everything.
I know you want proof of funding. That is something you will NEVER get on this blog and project partners have no reason to justify it to you. by mdudd February 21, 2011 12:47 PM

MDudd
Ok, thanks for clarification. I see COR have you busy as bee doing "PR" not bad :)

by summerheat February 21, 2011 1:11 PM

MDUDD

I don't know what this liar thing is about, I am not going to banter with you anymore. The other bloggers are right, let's stick to the facts.

I went back to the lenghty message from StopMakingSense.
He did not answer all those questions.
He actually starts by saying the source of the money comes from a legitimate source...Sounds like double talk, and who syas it's a legitimate source?
He even states, "DOESN'T KNOW WHY THE SOURCE WOULD DO THIS." Money is coming into the US from where, doesn't know that either. maybe you should go back and read it yourself.
P.S. You can drop the Dr. act it really isn't necessary. by DoNotBelieve February 21, 2011 1:17 PM

Forgot one thing. If this is so easy to legitimize the dealings of COR...Where do we find this so called
COR MASTER TRUST he speaks of in his lenghty message? by DoNotBelieve February 21, 2011 1:24 PM

Mdudd.
Could you kindly arrange to give refund DoNotBelieve his deposit. He is obviously not getting any sleep and is very very upset about funds being tied up for long.

All joke aside, this is a very serious issue. by summerheat February 21, 2011 1:31 PM

Well Mdudd/DoOrDie And State of Texas or whoever you want to be today.

Fact Boy I spoke with a very good friend that has been in banking for over 35 years all parts of the business also we have been following the flow of money on a global financial level for some time now and with your little fruad. There has been more attention.

There has been NO Transfers of money as you have posted here friday or anyother day for that matter.

You got your ass waxed when you were under DoOrDie and lied about your vast Business empire dang you all sound alike I wonder why.

But to the point as I was saying My friend deals with the type of big money boys you claim to be working with and let me tell you boy it's a very small circle these ol boys travel in and trust me when I say this they know all the players if there were they slimest chance that this scam called Cor was legit these ol boys would know them. And they don't

Now this is how Tuesday will play out as you see mdudd has already set the stage when he said not all will get funded.

This should help he told me to pass this along to those out there to ease your minds as he showed me But as I said I have investigated this so called company and found zero crediability and at count over 200 pending charges and mounting.

Go to your local bank and ask to speak with a investment banker or your own personal banker will do and ask them to pull up Cor on there secure banking network If Cor is legit as slag 1 and 2 are claiming to be this mystery V/C company will pop up if not then there you have it.

Simple and to the point also ask if there is a V/C Company named Cor with 100 Billion in assets out there now I'm no financial wiz but I damn sure know if there was a company out there with over 100 Billion dollas you would know of them it seems that all of the proof is found by only those few and no one else why is that and if we are to beleive the continuing saga of lies that out number all of the grains of sand on all of the this world well.

DoNotBeleive

Your friend will either get one of three things today or tomorrow.

1. The BS delay e-mail

2. The Ranger call or he calls and there working on it.

3. Dead air nothing Cor goes dark as they do right after these funding false alarms.

I have to say these ol boys have been the most entertaining lot we have had in awhile if it wasn't for the fact these dirtbags have stole and harmed so many it would be funny.

But sense the start Cor and the slags here have been the subject of 6 pool sheets all the money of course goes to one of the local causes here to help others but i did win 1 square on the funding post last month.

Hey Slag why don't you show us that big ol check y'all say y'all got you know just blot out all of the private stuff and (SHOW US THE MONE) and I am sure all here will be put in there place to include me. Now we don't want to see some homehade BS Check Boy I want to see the real deal.

Come on boy you got the money Cor came thur why ain't you on the 6 o'clock news boy a grin'in like the cat that ate the carnery boy. Hell you should be happier then a hog in a fresh pool of mud hey boy ain't that your screen mdudd and all of the others you say you ain't

ALL JOKING ASIDE PLEASE SON GET SOME HELP BOY!! I HEAR IF YOU PLAY CRAZY THEY JUST LOCK YOU UP IN THE NUT HOUSE HEY BOY THATS SOME EASY TIME I HEAR ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS KEEP DOING WHAT YOU DO NOW THAT WONT BE TOO HARD FOR YOU BOY.

OH AND YOU SPELL LIAR = mdudd/DoOrDie and all of the other BS names you go under by The fly February 21, 2011 1:31 PM

Conway20/DOD/MDUDD

Whoever you are? You are the lier. I have nothing to lie about. I am only here to impart information for whomever wants it. People for or against, I don't care.

You are so jealous because I have time on my hands...That is because my money is working for me, I am not waiting for Ficktishis Funding like you are!

Maybe my friend did get dropped, I don't know, actually I hope so, then he can get on with real life not fantasy land.

Except for Basketball today and golf not much going on anyway!

P.S. You are the only one pretending to be somone your not!
by DoNotBelieve February 19, 2011 10:36 AM

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DNB,
first line LIER.... by mdudd February 21, 2011 1:36 PM

Hey its the fly. just when we were going to get serious the buffoon comes back. Don't u have a pile of crap to go hover over.
Now you have a friend involved with banking. Wow everyone has a friend that knows this and that. Acording to you COR was going to jail weeks ago. Did not happen. I GOT FUNDED. That did happen.

Now lets talk seriously. I can't because the fly is here. Can't stop laughing. He is such an idiot. by mdudd February 21, 2011 1:43 PM

MDUDD
Ok, you got me, I did misspell the word. Sooooo!

Summerheat
What's with dig...I thought we were sticking to the facts. For the whatever time, I AM NOT A PARTNER WAITING FOR FUNDING!!!!!!
Don't you people read????????????

FLY
So far my friend has encountered the 3rd, Dead Air. But don't forget as others have reminded us it is a Holiday! by DoNotBelieve February 21, 2011 2:10 PM

Forgot, the snow stom in the midwest...Excuse for tomorrow! it is already built in. Lucky! by DoNotBelieve February 21, 2011 2:15 PM

I do not need to read the posting again by StopMakingSense.

Don't lump me in with any of the others here.

I read his post and thanked him for the information he provided.

He gave information that could be verified by the appropriate people should there be a reason to.

COR has not funded.

by WakeUpNow February 21, 2011 2:36 PM

Hey son

how ya doin boy Oh yes i do have a big pile of stramly crap to hover over and you are standing right in the middle of it Yummmmmm.

I said my part of the investigation on your little scamm was over and I said you and you little band were going to jail thats true.

You and DoOrDie got funded this pass friday thats very interesting cause there were NO LARGE BANK TRANSFERS MADE IN THE PAST WEEK that would account for the so called funds you are claiming I also was handed some very interesting Information I will share with you.

On Sept 19th 2010

A post from JB-MMRS was entered the style and detail of the post show a pattern that quite a few other screen names share here.

The next was CVNuck also the same.

The next was a short stay with Albertonot and Direan@yurwnrisk all the same person.

Then rightperspecive this also is the same person as above then enters DoOrDie.

In his Dec 2010 post he claims to have been funded also there was a jan 5th request to verify his claims

Now on Jan 10th if we are to beleive this slag is just a so called project victim why would he post to discount the post of a Tim bieser DoOrDie said that this Bieser guy was a part of one of his RANGERS GROUP now if you arwe just a partner/victim why would have control of a ranger and if you try to lie your way out of it how and why would you need to know the dealings and private information of another partners/victims file ????

Then all of the other screen names poped up as you can see as I am in Texas he had to create a counter to me so we now have State of Texas odd that is. Now he has gotten funded and still can't show proof you would think that with all that has been said and done here that if there ever was a time to rub someones face in it this would be the time and the place.

So I ask you do you have the proof well punk do ya.

SHOW US THE MONEY BOY.

The only funds you got was part of the money you stole from those that beleived in your scam.

BOY you couldn't talk seriously if your sorry ass life depended on it by The fly February 21, 2011 2:39 PM

I am not skeptical about the legitimacy of the business dealings, I am skeptical about the identities and intentions of the people posting nonsense on here. by WakeUpNow February 21, 2011 2:46 PM

I'm sure that the next message will be that after initiating funding for the few claiming to have been funded, Cor ran into a problem and has corrected it. Don't worry, everything is done. Then we'll hear that all of these negative posts on this little chat room have slowed down the funding.

Dudd:

Let's not parse words. Funding means that I can go to the bank and take out the money as I wish. It doesn't mean that I saw a computer program or piece of paper that said that there was money in an account for me somewhere. Can you go to your bank in the morning and take the money out? If not, you haven't been funded.

I think that the coincidence that the supporters of Cor on this site are claiming to be funded and the doubters have not. I suspect that your definition of the word "funding" differs from others.

By the way, I liked StoppedMakingSense's post. You'd almost think that he's an attorney close to the process. I don't see FACTS, I see statements. If you are running two or three days late, I'd tend to believe the statements. You mislead me for month after month, I won't believe what you say, only what you do. At this point, dollars in hand.

Is our banking system so slow that we can only send one wire at a time? Of course not. Is Cor sending one wire at a time so as to not attract attention in the banking system? Seems like an excuse that could be used. This is a problem if they ever plan to disburse the large sums that they promise now isn't it?

The FACT is that Cor hasn't funded.

by SeriouslyC'mon February 21, 2011 3:32 PM

My personal take on all of this is it's a scam plain and simple nothing more nothing less. The fact they seem to still be in contact with there victims doesn't change a thing bernie operated in the open and look where that ended up.

The fact these ol boys lie about lying amazes me and now it's so plain I mean come on the lies they tell now are lies of the lie OMG.

There are just the two of them here both using two or more different screen names problem with that is they get so worked up they forget to change the writting styles they all sound the same and the detail of Cor's inner workings are impressive if we are to beleive that they are mear project/victims .

Yes you are correct Cor has not funded and never will the money they have taken has been spent for the most part and will never be recovered.

There has been a great deal of chat and back and forth here. But I am sure you have no choice but to agree with me in the facts.

1. Cor has not funded ever

2. There has been very little direct contact with Cor directly.

3. More and more of Cor's key people are going to jail

4. None of the so called project partners claiming to have received funding can be beleived or show proof

Tomorrow will come and pass and so will yet another funing claim I would hope that this will open the eyes of those that were holding out on this long shot after so many here and myself have warned those victims to demand there money back before it was too late.

I will be here for the let down tomorrow and I will direct those to go to there local police and report this crime and to also file with the FBI. I would advise them to retain an attorney if possible and PLEASE Report the intake fee to the IRS this will avoid a heak of a lot of problems down the road. by The fly February 21, 2011 4:46 PM

Well Them ol boys are busy counting that funding money.

Hell berto/mdudd/DoorDie or who ever the hell you want to sign as today you ol boys must be busier then a cow with a extra set a tits getting milked. Man Boy we got all the tv's here at the office tuned in to hear the big announcement of this 100 Billion Dollar V/C company headed by the All and Powerful AL-Bert-Toe Co-lon and Crew. hey Boy i bet the President himself will make the breaking news about Cor and you. man o man I got the DVR all set and ready for this his-tor-ric event dang boy this is better then randolph scott a riding over the hill just in the neck of time to save the day. A#1 all American stuff by The fly February 21, 2011 5:14 PM

Well DoNotbeleive

As the cybil's said in there other post they would be busy today getting all ready seeing as they have already gotten funded I still wonder what they would have to do with the others getting funded unless wink wink they are not who they claim to be and are really in fact berto and his partner in crime Art the never was lawyer.

Yes step one black out or the delaying e-mail. Now that we have posted here and they are aware they will change some things up just abit but the outcome will be the same NO money and yet another delay.

It is sad but true as to the outcome of all of this by The fly February 21, 2011 5:22 PM

There has not been any communication since earlier Friday. I just checked with him. Very discouraged on his end. I think he is coming to the realization this is not going to happen and is contemplating what to do next. by DoNotBelieve February 21, 2011 6:11 PM

Is it there yet is it there yet !!???? by The fly February 22, 2011 1:31 PM

NOT HERE!! by DoNotBelieve February 22, 2011 1:52 PM

Sure it is according to the 2 slags The billions of dollars are here and folks bank accounts are being stuffed with money.

Oh Oh Oh wait it's not up to Alberto it's out of his hands the IRS is in control the world financial in unstable and the deep pockets aren't so deep now or they are need to create some new lies oh as you all know the Cor website is no more as I am sure you know.

by The fly February 22, 2011 2:42 PM

I hate to admit it, but I actually looked to see if the money was there before I made this post. Of course it wasn't as Cor hasn't funded.

Perhaps they are issuing the funding in $1 bills and it's taking a long time to count that high. Or perhaps the "funding" only exists on paper and not in the bank accounts of the partners. I find it interesting that every time I post factually based questions I don't get a response from the usual suspects with any facts. Now they have gone silent, they must be boarding the airplanes.

by SeriouslyC'mon February 22, 2011 2:45 PM

Fly/SeriouslyC'mon/DoNotBelieve

At least Bernie had the "decency" to pay out "some" of the funds. These cats went completely "Nigerian" with their scheme.

They take in the money and then the litany of excuses begin.

by summerheat February 22, 2011 3:00 PM

Fly/SeriouslyC'mon/DoNotBelieve

At least Bernie had the "decency" to pay out "some" of the funds. These cats went completely "Nigerian" with their scheme.

They take in the money and then the litany of excuses begin.

by summerheat February 22, 2011 3:00 PM

I will drop the good ol boy texas chat for now. however it is the way I talk so (lol)

As I posted there is no money this is all a scam the only money these slags have is the money that the trusting victims have sent in.

I ask you once again if you or anyone you know have any dealing with these crooks to contact your local police and follow up with a call to the FBI also please report the money you or they sent and also report any business loss when filing your taxes this information was provided by one of the victims that I interviewed they had been on the wait with these clowns for 2 years.

I truly feel for those out there that have been wronged by this scam and the hopes and dreams that will have to be either put on hold or rethought and in some cases droped all together.

There are as I said to date several on going investigations concerning Cor and Alberto B Colon the trap is set and with the help of there good buddy Ross the iron bars will be closing on them all very soon

P.S

They are all at the bank counting those billions now thats why it's soooooooo quiet now NOT (ROTFLMAO) by The fly February 22, 2011 3:09 PM

Well as we await the news reports of the joyful millions flowing into the accounts of the true beleivers I would
like to share a new location for Mr Colon's empire.

Cor development group 542 Towne Dr
Fayetteville NY 13066

If you google that address you will find Mr Colon's Billion dollar operation office. The middle of a parking lot.

Hummmmmmmmmmmmm the plot thickens the lie continues and the BS piles higher and higher

by The fly February 22, 2011 5:03 PM

Summerheat

They never answer your questions. They don't deal in facts.

Here is the latest Email double talk!
There are actually two, paraphrasing for you.

To Project Partners
1.
This is the only communication I have had since Saturday AM. I don't know what this means so I can't give you anything further other than to wait and see what Alberto reports...when the meeting is over.
(That makes a lot of sense doesn't it?)
2.
Alberto has asked me to let you know he's with bankers and you will have full update from him later today. Possibly early evening.

Ok board now who do you believe? The chosen few COR people or the rest who once again HAVE NOT BEEN FUNDED!
And in my humble opinion...NEVER WILL BE!

I have said this before "THESE PEOPLE ARE CRUEL" by DoNotBelieve February 22, 2011 5:14 PM

I have an evening meeting to get to I will check back later and let you know if I here anymore or if you do. by DoNotBelieve February 22, 2011 5:24 PM

Donotbeleive

This is the way these crooks run this scam the endless delays and excuses from banking problems to other outside issues.

Question if the two slags here got funded as they claim or he claims then whats the hold up if one gets funded then why can't the others all of a sudden Berto is in the bank all day for what they forgot all of the accounts or they have to count each dollar.

THERE IS NO MONEY THIS IS A SCAM AND THERE WILL BE NOTHING BUT CONTINUED EXCUSES AND DELAYS UNTIL THESE SLAGS ARE PUT IN JAIL.

DO YOURSELFES A FAVOR AND CONTACT THE POLICE AND FBI NOW! by The fly February 22, 2011 5:39 PM

These guys have abandoned their positive posts because they have learned that the "funding" that they received on Friday isn't really in their personal bank account. They would be gloating significantly otherwise. You were challenged to present facts and to put up or shut up. Soon the realization that the shills that took to this site in support of Cor weren't as high up the foodchain as they thought will set in. They will be left to answer after Cor disappears.

Cor hasn't funded.

by SeriouslyC'mon February 22, 2011 7:02 PM

Did any of you really beliEve this funding would happen?
Several of us tried to warn others but were just harassed by all of the COR supporters. The naysayers provided more proof than did any of the so called Project Partners, if that is what they were, frankly I have my doubts about that also. It is a shame people didn't listen sooner. Just because I wasn't invested myself doesn't mean I don't feel for those who were especially the person I know. People can care about other people without always having an agenda.

It sure is Quiet!

COR HAS NOT FUNDED! by DoNotBelieve February 22, 2011 9:39 PM

Sorry guys, been very busy today. Had to setup my new operating company. Meet with lawyers and accountants, etc. DNB you know from your degree in Business what it takes to start a company. Speaking of which, something I do not understand. "your friend" has a business plan, and you have all of this business knowlege, how come you did not find him a funding source? Did you not like the Plan? Was it too much up front money asked for by your savy business people? Just curious. BTW, if you are going to paraphrase, but a little more info. in there. Not just the negative.
SC,
Sorry I did not get back to you soonner. I guess you answered my question about being a project partner. Yes I did get Funded, meaning CASH in my account. Sorry you did not get your funding yet. Things are not happening quickly I guess. But it is coming.

Fly,
I keep checking cnn. com for people in shackles and orange suits. Have not seen anyone you have mentioned. I wonder why???

So I am going to ask a question to the negative bunch.
Lets say, You were going to run a scam. Why would you hire someone who is being watched by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT (FBI), for allegedly running a similar scam and give him a very important position in your operation? Wouldn't you want to keep it a big secret and then run off.
Just a thought, give you guys something to talk about tomorrow unless you find a life.

by mdudd February 22, 2011 11:42 PM

DUDD

1. I never said he didn't have any business knowledge.
Although he didn't listen about COR sooooo!

2.
The only words I left out were, that was sent out to you Saturday morning, and to us, after Alberto. That is it. The rest was word for word!
It was all negative, WORD FOR WORD DUDDY BOY!

Why would any of us believe you anyway? WE DON'T, or at least I don't. by DoNotBelieve February 23, 2011 8:49 AM

Alberto:

I have scheduled a meeting with the authorities. You have until Friday morning to fund or I will turn over all of the contracts and communication received and file a complaint of fraud and conspiracy to commit fraud. In light of what I have, it won't be hard to substantiate.

If you are one of the individuals who are claiming to be funded, don't cash the check just yet. After Madoff's scheme collapsed, those who received more than they paid in had to cough up the money. If you truly received cash and want to keep it, you might want to get on the phone and get Alberto moving. Once this process starts, I won't stop it and the game is over.

And that is a FACT!

by SeriouslyC'mon February 23, 2011 11:47 AM

SC'mon
WELL SAID!! by DoNotBelieve February 23, 2011 12:59 PM

Hello Slag

I so you got funded and your screen name as well well why don't you show these good folk here a little proof you know a wire transfer with Cor's name on it.

The real fact is you got funded only in the nightmare you call your mind and the only money you have is the money these good folk have sent you for there projects.

All of Cors vast companies all operate out of shopping mall UPS mail boxes One would think with a billion Dollars we would hear about all of this and I too am keeping the TV tuned in to CNN for the big Cor announcement.

Your Funny boy you lie and now you taunt these folks here but I will remind you of the moth and the flame. You may think you have gotten away with yet another score but thats just a thought.

You ask why am I providing intel to these folks here and if this is a FBI on going case why wouldn't it be hush hush well slag . There are several on going investigations as I have stated before but what I post here isn't in anyway compromising anything that has and is still being gathered.

I see more folks here are going to take there horror stories to the FBI and the local cops.

So Slag where's your proof where is all the money you claim to have received from Cor and all of the other victims only get that you are in the bank all day and you will update them soon WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP

OKAY TO THOSE THAT WISH TO SUBMIT YOUR COMPLAINT TO THE FBI REMEMBER TO ADD ALL OF THE PLAYERS AND THERE PHONE NUMBERS. ALL OF THE E-MAILS YOU HAVE RECEIVED FROM COR AND YOUR RANGERS (LOL) AND THE SO CALLED CONTRACT WITH THE BANK TRANSFER INFORMATION I POSTED A BANK ACCOUNT COR USED HAS CLOSED

I WOULD NOT WAIT UNTIL FRIDAY IF I WERE YOU. COR AND THE SLAG HERE CLAIMED TO HAVE BEEN FUNDED BUT NOT YOU HUMMM by The fly February 23, 2011 2:14 PM

I was wondering what you meant when you said Cor wasn't a Venture/Capital company From the interviews of thre of your victims the intro was that Cor was this super V/C company that had deep pockets.

Now that I posted as well as others here have looked for information on Cor and spoke with legit V/C companies all of which have never heard of Cor and when presented with the Cor now closed website say you guys are crooks and give good V/C companies a bad name so as you see you have pissed some more folks off. So lets recap Cor wont share where it's money comes from and wont share with it's victims whats going on and now it's not a V/C company and only those that are victims of Cor know what it is well you got that one right I am sure by now even those that were holding out for this last lie know now just what Cor is a bunch of lying theiving dirtbags and I am sure your e-mail box the ones that still work will be overloaded with demands of refunds.

Your scam is falling apart all around you slag your lies are becoming more and more amazing and NO ONE HERE BELEIVES anything you post just another lie.

Another funny thing now that you have been branded as a BALL FACED LIAR you can't insult anyone here BOY anything you post will be taken as just another lie and the joke you are boy !!!!!!! by The fly February 23, 2011 3:08 PM

Well hello fellow bloggers. Screenname22 here. Yes possible that means this is the 22nd screen name I have used here on the blog. But I will leave you to ponder that. LOL

The listed address in an above post for the latest COR office happens to be in the middle of the parking lot if looked up on Google Earth, however if you zoom in and click the point you get several other businesses there also. After my further research I found these items. The name of the business is COR Brokerage Inc. not COR Develpment Group. It has been in business for 12 years run by a Mr. Steve Aiello. Sorry but that does not sound like the COR being discussed here on this blog. I may be wrong but, please correct me if I am. I certainly want only the facts to be displayed.

Another point of interest that I would like to present to the blog. People have talked about being vested with COR, well I submit that anyone that has taken the time to prove or disprove COR is vested. We have all spent time trying to learn as much as possible about this company. The old saying is very true, "Time is Money." So the relentless hours of searching the internet or preparing for a project is well worth the minimum wage at the least. So we all are vested to some degree or another. Maybe not in dollars and cents but in time and effort.

Other facts that I know from personal relationships.

1 COR has not funded anyone that I have direct contact with.

2 COR has not said they were not going to be able to fund.

3 COR has had many setbacks.

I think that is truly all I know in fact about the issue.

As you have seen from my post I do not wish to be a mud slinger in any direction. I ask that you have the same respect if any of you feel you have a reply to this post. I do feel we need to move past the name calling and bickering to get back to facts. Please offer any and all information in either direction but have the courtesy to provide a link or state where you recovered the information from that we here on the blog can verify.
Thanks for reading this post and looking forward to seeing the end to this preplexing issue. by screenname22 February 23, 2011 3:37 PM

As for these FBI investigations. How can we all coordinate to provide information? Let me know and we can work on details. by 1433rn February 23, 2011 3:47 PM

Perhaps Mr. Fly could provide a name of an FBI agent and a phone number so everyone could coordinate through one agent. It would seem he has some inside sources. I myself am prefering to believe in COR and the funding. Mr. Fly the ball is in your court.

by screenname22 February 23, 2011 4:12 PM

This just in...Right on Q!!!

WORD FOR WORD!(Just for you DUDD)

UPDATE:

WE OVERWHELMED OUR BANK SYSTEM AND SHOULD BE BACK UP AND RUNNING IN 24 TO 72 HRS. I WILL BE SENDING OUT MORE DETAILED UPDATE AFTER TOMORROW MORNING BANKING MEETING.

I think we called this excuse days ago!

Now what do you think screen22? by DoNotBelieve February 23, 2011 4:23 PM

SeriuoslyC'mon

I guess they didn't believe you! by DoNotBelieve February 23, 2011 4:26 PM

That fits correctly with what I know as fact. COR has had and continues to have setbacks. Does that make it a scam or illegal? NO Does it make it better for all involved? NO But the fact also is no one has verified COR being put behind bars that can be verified. No one has gotten an email saying they are not going to fund. Again if you have any information either for or against continue to post it with verifiable sources. I am one to give the person benifit of the doubt so I will believe you received this email from your friend. However I can not verify that. So you ask what I think. I think that we are in the same boat we have been in for along time. by screenname22 February 23, 2011 4:33 PM

These guys are really unbelieveable...To think there are some out there who are still hanging on,is mind baffling.
People it is over Two Years...REALLY!?

I hope someone does have a name and number to go to for help. by DoNotBelieve February 23, 2011 4:42 PM

42 hours remaining.

by SeriouslyC'mon February 23, 2011 4:45 PM

Screenname22

Of course COR is not going to tell anyone they aren't going to fund, why would they do that. They just keep you hanging on using money for their own purposes. I can't believe intelligent businessmen, fall for this, I am amazed! by DoNotBelieve February 23, 2011 4:48 PM

42 hours remaining.

by SeriouslyC'mon February 23, 2011 4:52 PM

May I submit,

Some have given the last two years to COR. With a lot to lose and a lot has been lost. The hope or dream is a hard thing to give up especially if it is the only hope you have now. Please dont be hard on the people that still have hope in COR it may be the only hope they have.
Thanks, by screenname22 February 23, 2011 4:56 PM

SCN22

You are correct, you are all in the same boat you have been in for a long time...Don't you think it is time to Jump Ship?
I did indeed get the Email from my friend, that is also correct. by DoNotBelieve February 23, 2011 4:56 PM

1433/rn and screen name

It's very easy all you would have to do is report your complaint to the FBI and to the local police it will then be forwarded to the on going investigation.

There is no need to coordernate your complaint it will just be added to the rest of the Cor victims case file. Simply pick up the phone and call your local FBI office ask for a agent and tell them you are the victim of fraud present them with all of the info you have as I listed above and thats it. Now to answer the bit about a agent's name that would change from city to city and there are over 20 already working on this case when you call you would be talking with an intake agent they will either do one of two things take your information over the phone or ask you to come in for an interview and provide them with all the information and facts you have.

And as for the address I posted it is listed under Cor development Group with Mr. Alberto B. Colon name heading it as brokers.

Now if you beleive in Cor and before I go on any more your above post and style of writting is the same as a few other screen names that have posted here.

But okay I'll bite if you google Cor Development Group you will find a number of listings 99% with Alberto's name on them there is one listed as Cor Brokerage and hold the phone Alberto B. Colon name is on it and the address I posted as well and if you google map it you will see that the address is located in the middle of a shopping mall parking lot as all of the vast Billion dollar operations this financial wiz is at the center of. and yes it also says Cor Development group in it as well if you are to have us beleive you are not just another addition to the countless screen names you would have read the whole listing and seen for yourself the same findings as we have here.

Now I will just toss this out there if there has been funding and it only happen for a few select why is it the other victims that have been waiting some for over two years still get the same old delays why can't Cor man up and say and show that some were funded and that they would be getting funded later why would you promise the world one second and lie thur your teeth the next.

We have been watching the banking and investment markets very closely for the pass few months and there is NO Indication of anything Cor has stated or the dirtbag claims or the so called Billion's Cor is to have control of. I have another question if the money is here and once again the select few have been funded why does Alberto have to be in the bank all day if all the information is correct with all of the other victims unless there is as we all know NO money and that this is as we all know to be nothing more then a scam as it really is

by The fly February 23, 2011 4:58 PM

SCN22

I get that, but is it a realistic hope or dream...It doesn't appear to be from everything that has gone on. Is it possible to get your money refunded and go elsewhere for that hope and dream that is more viable? by DoNotBelieve February 23, 2011 5:00 PM

Screen name

you write just like DoOrDie why is that can you explain ????????????????????????? by The fly February 23, 2011 5:05 PM

FLY

I don't know he seems more subdued than DOD was.
DOD seemed so much more volatile, and antagonistic. by DoNotBelieve February 23, 2011 5:13 PM

Mr Mdudd in an earlier post "eloquently" explained, that COR has not gone anywhere and they keep communicating. Well my friend "Communicating" no matter how valuable the content, could be done from anywhere in the world at very low cost and any fraudster if he/she chooses, could do so using email, VIOP and skype.... So the "masterminds" at COR do not have to be operating within the United States at the moment. So "Updates" are meaningless, if the promises are never kept.

Could someone help out here...... "A handful of people were funded" but these "handful wires "OVERWHELMED OUR BANK SYSTEM". WOW!!!! now thats creative.

by summerheat February 23, 2011 5:26 PM

DonotBeleive

I wish I could help you in that area but the only thing I can do at this point is to advise you to continue to try to talk your friend to demand there money back it is as I feared all gone but the demand won't hurt. Now as for another V/C group a real one there are many of them out there. And contact the Police and FBI

1. Have them resubmit there business plan and project requirments to as many real V/C Groups as possible.

2. Before submitting do your homework and make sure these people are who they are. If you can't talk to a real person each time you call or get a return call back and there is no real office you can't walk in anytime then walk away.

3. If you are required to pay some sort of upfront fee's for these sort of things and any cost will be for protypes or patents or legal fees you would pay to your attorney yourself or for a show and tell sort of thing.

Now to address the vast amount that Cor claimed to have well unless the project is that good as you know the amount of funds will very I wouldn't attempt to guess on a set amount or how to go about it as I said I'm just a ol country cop. The paperwork we submitted on these dirtbags was about 4 inches thick by The fly February 23, 2011 5:26 PM

WOW

Lets see in 2008 800 Billion USD's was transfered to several different companies all within 24 hours durning the wallstreet melt down and not ONE BANK WAS OVERWHELMED I take my hats off to these guys. To Tell a lie and know it's a lie and know you know it's a lie and want you to just go along with the lie until they can tell another lie and the lie is a lie of a lie of a lie that was the first lie.

by The fly February 23, 2011 5:35 PM

Fly

It would be easy to call and file that complaint. However what if you are the first to call. Then you start the investigation. I know I would not like to be that first person calling in.

Yes we can google just like you say and yes Mr. Colon does come up with a lot of business items. So is there one particular place we can go which states that COR or Mr. Colon is a scam? You have said it yourself if it was so then it would be all over the news.

My post? I hope that it would be associated with those on this blog who have tried to be postitive. As I have stated if you have verifiable information for or against please post it from a source that can be verified by us that have limited abilites when it comes to internet and investigative knowledge or resources. Some of us do not have the resources that you seem to have. Please help us.

The order of funding has not been released or shared with me so I can not comment factually on why some have or have not gotten funded. I have said that those that I know have not gotten funded as per this post. I have read the post from the start although some were easier to believe then others.

In your post you say we have been watching the banking and investing areas. My question would be we who? Also
Mr. Fly

What information have you been able to compile that can be verified by us here on the blog. I am sure that if you have any law enforcement ties that you may or may not be willing to submit that information to us. So to some it would seem you are making this up? Granted I have seen numerous post but nothing that can assuredly be verified. Again please help us out here.

Being in the bank all day? Well have you even tried to buy a car lately it takes all day and several different managers to go through. Now that I can laugh about cause I just went through the process not long ago. So who knows the reason why he was in the bank all day. I am the first to admit I do not have all the answers. I am just like most others here searching for information that can be verified. Again, please help us here.

DNB

I do not know about getting money back. As far as other viable avenues. I am sure there are companies that would be glad to assist. Yet at this point we are working with COR. Maybe it is a mistake but no one has actually proved that yet.

Thanks again and as stated, "Looking forward to ending this preplexing issue.'

by screenname22 February 23, 2011 5:47 PM

DoNotbeleive

Looking at screen names style of writting is the same as the other two or four screen names all started out as at first if you look it is all subdued and polite in the begining and as they were caught in lies or questioned the the worm turned as I know this new one will as well.

by The fly February 23, 2011 5:48 PM

Just to put your minds at easy I am not DOD or any other.
But thanks for take such a serious look at my post. by screenname22 February 23, 2011 5:52 PM

Please trust me if you make a complaint you won't be the first and as for information that is directly related to this on going case you are correct I amunable to provide you or anyone here with any inside details only that Cor is the close subject of a criminal Fruad investigation and that yes poeple are going to go to jail.

Now if this is an attempt in fishing for information all you have to do is just ask and if it isn't restricted I would be more then happy to share it with anyone here.

As for the different agencies watching the banking markets for Cor or other activity well most of the ones with three letters ATF is passing on this one unless there is something that would peek there attention but so far this is just another white collar fruad case.

Now for the all day in the bank thats a load of crap plain and simple. And yes I baught a new car a few times in my life and it didn't take all day as this latest delay we called that excuse a few post ago and it's been used in a few of the post last year I read in the files.

There is no money and no one has been funded by Cor at all none no one thats a fact. by The fly February 23, 2011 6:03 PM

As to Mr Colon being all over the News well I don't have any control over that but I can say this the up coming trial of one of Cor's anchor members will pull in more folks then was first thought of.

Remember there is no money there never was any money and there is no proof to support any statement either written or verbal from Cor Mr. Colon or any of it's rep's at all.

by The fly February 23, 2011 6:14 PM

Mr. Fly,

You say that you are a country cop. So please identify yourself in all future post as such and state your juristiction and badge number please or quit portraying an officer of the law.
Thank you, by screenname22 February 23, 2011 6:16 PM

36 hours remaining

by SeriouslyC'mon February 23, 2011 11:03 PM

C’mon son, are you serious. That threat will accomplish absolutely nothing. You and the blog know that this type of tactic is useless. So if you receive a wire, you will credit that to your intimidation?

The wise man, even when he holds his tongue, says more than the fool when he speaks. by GApeach1 February 24, 2011 2:12 AM

Proverbs 15:21, 26:5, Foolishness brings joy to those who have no sense; a sensible person stays on the right path. When arguing with fools, be sure to answer their foolish arguments, or they will become wise in their own estimation.

SeriouslyC'mon

No need to go to the authorities, because everybody is already watching. Please don’t do me any favors, if you are going to punch me in the mouth, don’t tell me, just do it.

I’m a vested party that’s been watching from afar who like you have paid the necessary fees and have probably been waiting as long as you have. Trust me, I won’t do anyone on this blog any favors, when we receive our funding, you will never hear it from me because anyone on this blog knowing that is not a concern. Besides, I’ll be too busy working my project.

Psalm 37:3, 6, Trust in the Lord and do good. Then you will live safely in the land and prosper. Be still in the presence of the Lord; wait patiently for him to act. Don’t worry about evil people who prosper or fret about their wicked schemes.

by MyBizness February 24, 2011 6:49 AM

28 hours remain by SeriouslyC'mon February 24, 2011 7:09 AM

All the new bloggers are trying to intimidate SeriouslyC'mon. Just let him do what he set out to do.
None of you have been present for the last 6 months so why now? The element of surprise may have been better, but doing something is better than doing nothing.

Another saying for you.

FOOL ME ONCE SHAME ON YOU, FOOL ME TWICE SHAME ON ME!

COR is way over twice in anybody's book! by DoNotBelieve February 24, 2011 9:20 AM

That’s right folks; Mr. Seniority who has no invested interest and who has been responding to every positive post for months has spoken once again to those who care. by Conway20 February 24, 2011 9:40 AM

AT LEAST I CARE!!!

I do have a vested interest...It's personal! by DoNotBelieve February 24, 2011 9:58 AM

Sorry, This is going to be wordy.

Seriously C'mon,I do not know what you are trying to accomplish. If you are going to the authorities, than do it. Do not post it on an anonymous blog. Grow a set and email Alberto directly. Show him, directly, you mean business. But then you run the risk of him cancelling your project. I do not know why you would be afraid since you believe there is no money for your project.
To be honest, what authorities’ are you going to? Local police cannot do anything about it. They are busy solving real crimes. FBI, they are already watching COR according to the fly, remember. Well actual according to the fly, they were going to jail weeks ago. IRS, they were paid upfront monies when monies were moved into the country, so that leaves them out. ATF (Alcohol, Tabaco and Firearms), really c’mon. Homeland Security? I know, because the fly says “terrorist money and acts”. If any project partner believes that, being a US citizen/patriot, we would have pulled our money out a long time ago (myself included). Homeland Security has enough issues to worry about other than COR being terrorists. Keep in mind that this is “the fly”, who has yet to identify himself even though certain people on this blog have asked, talking about all of this nonsense. Everyone here knows if any wrongdoing has been done, BY COR, it would have been discovered by someone a long time ago. There are alot of people here looking at every angle of COR's.

Now onto the update from yesterday, thank you DNB for the exact email. Overwhelmed did not mean they physically could not handle the work load. We are all aware of the Stress Test Act of 2009. Test that are run to ensure banks, which have over 100 billion in assets, a required by law, to run when new any large transfers/wires are going to be initiated. This will affect the daily balance sheets of the banks, which could result in the banks temporary shutdown. The US government (which is well aware of what COR is doing) requires this test to avoid all of the issues after the bank failures of late 2008 and still continuing today. Is it a set back? YES. Is it frustrating? YES. Is it correctable? YES. Will it be corrected? YES. How long will it take? Do not know. Hopefully a day or 2, but I honestly do not know (that day or 2 is just speculation). Believe me, I am very frustrated. I went ahead with starting my new company, meeting with attorneys’ and accountants, members of my company. Now we will have to wait. The good news is that COR is still moving forward. They are working with the bank to rectify any problems that can and may occur. This again, shows how legit this whole process is.

One thing that has always bothered me is the negative comments. Who is a project partner? Who has a friend? The Fly, still do not know what your issue is. Yes we are on an anonymous blog and all want to vent our opinions. Some negative, some positive. If you are not a project partner, you really have no say, even though you may think you do.You should just keep your mouth shut and onions to yourself. You do nothing but hurt every project partner involved including your friend. Is it a personal vendetta? Is it because of being selfish? Is it because of personal gains? Whatever your reason, stop hurting the project partners chances of making this happen. The project partners, who are not happy, pull your money out. It is that simple. You had a choice to make and you choose to invest your money in COR and your belief in your project. The belief in the project should still be there. COR has not run off with your money. It is “taking too long” will be people’s response. If you knew of the obstacles that COR has had to overcome through this process, or maybe some of us do know of these obstacles, you would feel differently. For the project partners that are positive, I say” good for you”. You do not let the nay-sayers affect your opinions or beliefs in your project. The bottom line is ever project partner wants the same thing.TO GET FULL FUNDING.

Ok, now let the non-believers have at it. I know they will have something to say, because they cannot keep their big mouths shut. Unfortunately, the only one that can do that is COR, and I personally cannot wait till that happens…

by mdudd February 24, 2011 11:50 AM

Thank you mdudd. by screenname22 February 24, 2011 12:05 PM

well I see new screen names all and the same old slags behind them.

This is amazing there is NO FUNDS and never will be other then the money that was stolen.

As for you Mdudd and all of the other screen names you have created GET SOME REAL HELP BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are off your nut boy this is plain and simple Fund or pay back don't continue to BS these folks out there with this scam and lies.

Hey every one you notice how screen name backs up mududd as if they have known one another for years Hummmmmmmm

that last rant of Dudd I like that one by the way goes on and on about Cor and still can't show the slightest bit of proof that he or for that matter anyone else has received a dime.

He is correst Cor has not run off with your money THEY JUST SPENT IT AND ARE LYING TO YOU THUR THERE LYING CROOKED TEETH!!!!!!!!

As for who I am yes sir I'm a ol country cop if'in y'all want to see the star and so on well sir y'all just step up and I'll be glad to show y'all on the way to jail.

This is not about the so called non beleivers it is about right and wrong Cor made a legal and financial agreement with each and every one of the victims and have failed to follow thur on any of it's promises or agreements. There has been over two years of the same delays and false starts causeing millions in loss revenue and jobs directly connected to this scam and you slags have the nerve to come here and continue the lie first you act as if you are just another victim and them after a few post your true agenda is revealed your the same or one of the two low life dirtbags that prey on these good folks and there dreams.

You bost that Cor is not in jail yet well thats the key word YET!!!!!

Screen name/dudd/DoOrDie and all of the other screen names here you can't side step the truth son. These good folk here are waking up and waking up those they care about and I would hope to pull aside those ol boys that you and the other slag has dupped into this scam and ask them to Talk to the feds and local police. by The fly February 24, 2011 2:11 PM

STOP STOP STOP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

STOP CALLING THOSE FOLKS OUT THERE PROJECT PARTNERS THEY ARE FRUAD VICTIMS GET THAT STRIGHT!!!!!!!!

If Cor has not funded in over two years and have no real address and can not be contacted directly or show any real proof of there claims to the so called Billions they hold thats a SCAM plain and simple.

Now to address me not being a victim and what interest of it of mine well Boy as i said I investigated this little scam went alln the way to Chicago remember slag and passed our finding up the chain to the other part of the investigation and let me explain this in a manner even you slag can understand.

The Ross deal was a year in the works before he was hauled in so this we ain't in jail yet is just that SLAG NOT YET!!!!!!!!!

Another bit of intel I would like to share with the good folk here.

Under the many claims that Cor and Mr.Colon all claim there is nothing that supports not one of there claims. from Gold Broker to all of the vast CEO and Board Positions that are sited in there on-line Scams

by The fly February 24, 2011 2:23 PM

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt by MyBizness February 24, 2011 2:45 PM

We all expected you know who to show up with his rubbish. What is so hilarious about him is that he goes on and on about what he’s finding on the internet to include COR has no EIN. So let me allow him in on a little secret. COR is an acronym for something else. Discover that acronym and you will find COR. But one thing, you will not find it on the internet.

The other one should be spreading his negativity soon. If I was him I would be enjoying the beaches instead. by Conway20 February 24, 2011 3:06 PM

Hey Dudd AKA SLAG

Boy you crack me up whats the matter those rangers of your starting to question your little scam. You starting to feel the heat boy. the latest lie y'all told ain't going over like you thought it would.

And let me just say this a billion dollars and I don't care where it comes from ain't gona clog any bank anywhere in these UNITED STATES Boy!!!

Hell son 30 Billion Dollars run thur the banks here in Texas everyday without the blink of an eye and don't bring up that lame trading platform line y'all made excuses.

The fact any of your victims here can just go to there local bank and simply ask if a billion dollars would clog up there system would laugh at em.

Hey slag point in fact this is tax time there is well over half 200 billion being deposited and mailed out to tax payers all over these UNITED STATES and not one single clog if so it is cleared up in a day or two and wait hold the phone you can track where the money is and when it will be in your hands unlike the crap you are posting here and the BS Cor is e-mailing it's victims.

By the way slag where is your proof that you got funded aren't you pose to be molding your vast empire it would seem that if you got real money you would be done with this site yet you are here writting the same old horse crap and trying to shift the focus somewhere else. Sorry thats not working this time nor is all of the new screen names you are writting under and the new or should I say revamped set of BS lies you are posting and sending out to the victims and the unpaided victims you have front for you and lie to the victims won't work anymore either if one so called ranger knows about your little scam how long will it be before all of them know and start to walk in to the local cops and Feds offices and OH yea Boy the LEO's don't take kindly to fruad being committed in there little part of the world and as for the ATF and we all know who they are but thanks for spelling it out.

don't have a cut in this white collar crime unless of course one of the cells you supported has weapons or more.

You are a joke boy and all of your post are a joke and the new screen names you pop into are a joke non of what you post will be beleived and all of the lies you tell here can and are being proven to be just that lies. So as I see it END GAME BOY!!!!!!!!!

What new lie or BS line will you or in your cybil moments post next lets stay tuned in and find out by The fly February 24, 2011 3:07 PM

Well I see you showed up and this time and just using two user names.

Thats cute your fishing again boy to have me try to throw the investigation and the link with your ol bubby Ross. Not going to work Slag.

I do like that bible quote it always amazed me that the only time crooked did that was when they were lying to get something or in jail and find god wow well at lease you are ahead of the game there y'all already have god in your hearts when you are bunkies with bernie

by The fly February 24, 2011 3:16 PM

@The fly - I try to ignore your post, but God you dumb.

You like bible quotes. Now that's funny!

Here are some quotes with one bible verse. How many quotes are there?

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt . -- George Eliot
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.-- Abraham Lincoln (also attr. Confucius)
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.-- Mark Twain
Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. -- Bible, 'Proverbs' 17:28

I should know better, but I just had too. by Conway20 February 24, 2011 3:29 PM

Okay, i guess I have to reply to the good ol racist. Why I am doing this I will never know. Guess I feel bad for him. It is not easy being uneducated and it is even harder when have mental deficiencies .I am tired of being called Son and Boy, like you are above me. It actually shows how ignorant you really are.

So you claim to be a local law enforcement officer from Texas. Ok, so be it. Why would a local law enforcement officer fly to the Chicago area, do all of this research and local surveillance, get stuck in an airport and then fly home on a private plane (so you claimed a couple of weeks ago)? Hmmm. You must make a lot of money as a local law enforcement officer. OMG, wait, you are doing your surveillance from google. BTW, Good job finding Alberto in New York. Yet, I wonder why you are not a detective. So local law enforcement officer, what do you discover? Nothing… You went to a few addresses, check a few POB (post office boxes) and then you post here your findings. If you were any good at your job, you would have arrested Alberto or Art. Yet people want to know why these guys want to remain private. Actually, THE FLY, put on your detective hat and come find me. I am not Alberto or Art. So instead of chasing them, find me. I welcome the challenge. Because BOY, 2 things I can promise, 1) show up on my door step and I will beat the living crap out of you and 2) I am going to find out whom you are. Put that in your good ol pipe and smoke it.

Again, you want proof of my funding. Why? You have NO interest. You have no money involved or invested. You keep saying that you are doing it for the victims of COR. Again, I am a Project Partner or in your words a “victim” and I do not need or want your help. All you are doing is raising a doubt, to the people who are not as confident as others, and causing them a lot of headaches and heartache. Every time you post your nonsense (I can’t believe actually people read it) you cause a bit of doubt.
Let’s address the issue of multiple screen names. You keep saying that we are all the same person. I find that quite funny. Yes it is very easy to do on this site, with its Gameboy level security, but why would anyone need to use different names. It’s not like we will ever know who each one of us is. How about the fact; that people are growing tired of YOUR BS. I/WE/THEY all think you are a fool/idiot.
Everyone,
Please keep in Mind that I am NOT Alberto or Art or a ranger or anyone involved directly with COR. I am a Project Partner, meaning indirectly involved with COR. For anyone who reads this blog, Please do not take anything the fly says seriously. You can find the same information out on your own via the internet.

by mdudd February 24, 2011 3:39 PM

Well it's 2:42pm here and I ain't seen one dollar reported by anyone here or from our contacts to have been deposited in any account anywhere.

Humm you asked what was the meaning of Cor and it wasn't on the internet well one of the ol boys here came up with this one and I think it fits my take was just Crooks Out Robbing but his makes more sense with all the lies and user names y'all have here Crackheads On Ridelin hows that are we close???????????????????? by The fly February 24, 2011 3:48 PM

There is only one person that takes him seriously and that's donotbelieve. Everyone else has to consider him as the blog's comic relief. by Conway20 February 24, 2011 3:51 PM

You almost there. Try looking for the EIN on those names. You should come up with somehting. Let us know. by Conway20 February 24, 2011 3:54 PM

or the blogs donkey. by mdudd February 24, 2011 3:54 PM

Yep the crackhead one fits hey Slag I just said I was just a ol country cop I didn't say I was a LEO from texas so come off the dope long enough to understand what your reading boy . You see your in such a hurry to cover your lies with trying to disprove someone else you as you have always done forgot the facts and can't tell them right if they were right infront of your face as the facts are here just read boy if that ain't too hard for you.

The fact is you are either both or one and if you were just a victim there is no way boy you would have the intel as to the working as you claim the last person that made that claim is now out on bail sound like anyone you know. So just show us some proof you got funded slag.

see you just lied again at first you were close to Cor because your so called project was so big and you know the inner workings of Cor and now you claim to be a what BOY you are something else.

Hold your horses BOY First you claim to have been funded and have money in the bank and now today you post that Oh wait it ain't so.

thats the problem with telling too many lies you tell so many y'all can't keep up with the ones you just told.

everyone here with concern asked you to provide proof to include me and when you couldn't now you claim to have not been funded which one is it Boy either you did and have money or you didn't and don't ??????

Slag the only head and heart Aches that have been caused is been by you slag and yea your one of the lying SOB's that have stole those good folks money.

as for the screen name yea you are most of them the same writting style and same inside intel in all of the post. I never said you were a victim I said you were za lying low life scum sucking pile od BS there is a difference lets get it stright.

Now as to the other victims I have suggested that they contact the FBI and report there losses to the IRS and to also go to the LEO's In there city or towns

You have claimed a great deal of things here all lies and all disproved at each turn.

I stated facts as well as others here plain and simple your world is coming down all around you and the eyes of youf victims both the ones you hide behind to pass on your lies and the ones you have lied to and taken there money by The fly February 24, 2011 4:10 PM

Son you think your slicker then owl s#!t but you ain't using two computers or is it a iphone and puter not bad boy just another attempt at your old smoke and mirror act the cover has been pulled off you slag and at last count at lease two filk here were filing soooooo that blows your take on that one out of the water. You know i never said you were slow just a lying dirtbag and slag by The fly February 24, 2011 4:15 PM

Busy afternoon...I don't know where to begin.

COR stands for Commercial or Residential Development Group, Inc.

DUDD you did say you had the money...now you say you don't and once again you are on hold with the delayed excuses...Which is money or no money (spendable money that is).

One good thing to report, for some of us that is, my friend is also going to the authorities. The last excuse broke the camels back, last straw, whatever you want to use. We know someone who's son is an FBI agent in this area. He is calling him to find out exactly what he has to do and what documenation he needs to show. So he will be joining SeriouslyC'mon in his efforts to expose this fraud/scam!

by DoNotBelieve February 24, 2011 4:21 PM

There you go bad mouthin donkeys dang boy y'all really need some new meterial. But the donkey is a noble animal one that has a long and notable history unlike you.

At each attempt to discredit me you discredit yourselfs. correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it you and your other screen names that said just last week that all would be funded and we would be eatting our words. Well slag it's next week and wait another excues has come out and as i suspected a mention in the e-mail that some were funded not all and wait still no proof of that so the clock ticks for yet another 24/48 or is it 72 hours.

Well slag it looks like your the only ones out here eatting crap but then again you always have that is what makes it so easy for you to speak it you are now one with the crap.

Hey boy were waiting for the heavens to open wide and the billions to pour out.

Why ain't you gone on TV saying Cor is real and here is my money ???????? cause you can't your just a crook by The fly February 24, 2011 4:31 PM

DNB,
Where did I say that I did not receive money? by mdudd February 24, 2011 4:45 PM

DoNotBeleive

Glad to hear your friend is filing as I stated earlier I am not sure as to how much money they have left from the little bit of information I can share with you is that the well is empty or at lease almost.

Now for the paperwork all that is needed is the so called contract as many e-mail BS updates that they can print out or send to the intake agent and the banking information and any addresses they have also all the phone numbers that they have both working and non working and of course the names of all the contacts to include the so called broker that turned them to Cor.

I wish you and your friend all the luck in the world they also need to file this wih the IRS as a loss and also find a good collention agency as well as talk this over with there lawyer.

by The fly February 24, 2011 4:46 PM

Fly,
What happened to your good ol boy way of typing? Makes me wonder if THE FLY and DNB are on in the same... Considering the both of you keep claiming that everyone here is the same person?? Just a thought.... by mdudd February 24, 2011 4:52 PM

All you do is, contact your local FBI, they have all the areas with phone numbers on the FBI website. They also have a tipline if you want.
They handle all types of White Collar Crime.
That is who you go to the FBI. by DoNotBelieve February 24, 2011 4:54 PM

WRONG! by DoNotBelieve February 24, 2011 4:56 PM

DNB,
Don't post it. Just have him go do it. Maybe you can get a medal for being such a good friend....
I just do not understand one thing, If people have all of these concerns, why not email Alberto directly. Why so scared? I know it is easier to come here and voice your opinion and not have to worry about affecting your project, but if things have gone this far, what do you have to lose? by mdudd February 24, 2011 4:57 PM

Wait, you mean local authorities do not handle this type of investigation. by mdudd February 24, 2011 4:59 PM

Hey Slag

I never said i flew out of chicago in a private jet the good folk of these United states own it I was just rode back home in it.

Now to get you right as rain on this one Son every guy in texas is either boy or son and we say yes Sir and No sir also Yes ma'am and No Ma'am a lot as well now thats a fact Slag.

Well slag the list grows yet again the mounting number of those that are running away from you crooks Oh and yet another bit of news I hear and this is just skuttlebutt but these is to be a nationwide radio thingy on one of the am 24/hr talk shows asking those dealing with Cor to call in WELL dang boy you can't make this stuff up by The fly February 24, 2011 5:07 PM

I AM POSTING IT FOR ANYBODY ELSE WHO MAY WANT TO KNOW.
He is doing it.

As far as local authorities...Everybody is in various parts of the country. I guess they can do that also. As I said, "We know somone who's son is an FBI agent."
This was his suggestion.

I don't want a medal, I just want to see people who have been victimized get some sort of vindication.

Emailing Alberto does nothing. As all the Emails state, "Hold all your questions for now". How many of you have heard that one?

The end is coming!! by DoNotBelieve February 24, 2011 5:11 PM

Slag

Yes they Do it's called fruad plain and simple. And because this crime has spread all over the country the DOJ are right in the middle of it. The local crime is racketeering and operating and organized crime outfit all of the other stuff is wirefruad mail fruad theift operating a criminal orginazation with intent to defruad and the list goes on and yes there is the money laurding money to support terrorist operations. and there is more of course.

Oh Dudd why would i want to come after you if your not Al-Bert-toe or Art not a lawyer Rivera come on boy put that dope down long enough to see it's over slag by The fly February 24, 2011 5:16 PM

You are back with the good ol boy talk. You sort of slipped up. Thats ok. It happens.
Exactly, you were not on a commercial flight. You are on my tax paying dollar private plane.
Well see, everwhere else in the US, Calling a person Boy or Son, gets your ass handed to you and I think that includes Texas. You do have a football team down there. Walk up to one of those guys and call them son or boy. It will be the last thing you ever say, and thats a fact jack... by mdudd February 24, 2011 5:17 PM

NOBODY ELSE CARES!!!! You are right the end is coming....Good riddance. So now, you, SC and the fly should be done here. Correct?? by mdudd February 24, 2011 5:27 PM

After reading the Blog for quite some time now, the only apparent conclusion is that DONOTBELIEVE is of the female gender. by ElmosWorld February 24, 2011 5:36 PM

slip up please you are funny If you wasn't such a sorry excuse of life this would be hoot.

And yes I like to let it out it's me boy plain and simple. Why don't you give it a try and just confess come clean and tell all these folks out here what a lying low life you really are and that there isn't any Billions in the bank as you claim to know of if you were to be beleived.

TURN YOURSELF IN AND SAVE THE TAXPAYERS A LOT OF MONEY SENDING FOLKS OUT TO DRAG YOUR SORRY BUTT IN !!!!!!!

There you go on one of those dope trips NO Son i don't own a football team and let me say this ifin y'all look at any southern announcers or owners or in the south at all you will hear good ol boy ol boy son and a lot more but im just trying to give you a bit of education I wouldn't want you to feel offended if you are sent to a southern prison and you hear thats it's just the way we talk boy and if y'all hear something else y'all will know when and who is going to in your words (get there ass handed to them)Not thats a fact Slag!!!!!!!

by The fly February 24, 2011 5:37 PM

CAN ANYONE SAY (RICO) by The fly February 24, 2011 5:39 PM

AS LONG AS THIS STEAMY PILE OF CRAP CALLED COR IS OUT THERE SO WILL THE FLY!!!!!!!!!!!! YEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAA by The fly February 24, 2011 5:43 PM

Fly; One moment you're actually articulate and professional, The next you sound like a backwoods redneck. Not sure who you are and why you can't just be yourself?? Tell us why you are really here and why you are so passionate about crushing the dreams of these folks? Why so much Hate?? by ElmosWorld February 24, 2011 5:46 PM

@DoNotBelieve
I'm really, really glad to read that your friend will be filing as well. We will all miss you here on the blog. Happy trails. by Conway20 February 24, 2011 5:47 PM

yep DonotBeleive

All your friend has to do is contact the local office of the FBI and ask to speak with an intake agent. have all the info ready as I stated above and go from there. I would also place in a demand for funds returned within 24hrs if they do send it back not saying they have the money but if they do give the banking transfer information to the Feds as well also make a report to the LEO as well.

by The fly February 24, 2011 6:12 PM

@mdudd
I often wonder that myself. There is no way on this Earth that someone is that ill-bred and unintelligent. There is no way. At least they will not be TRYING to type so much foolishness. I would be ashamed. by Conway20 February 24, 2011 6:16 PM

As I stated earlier DON'T LET THIS GOOD OL BOY MANNER FOOL YA just cause i talk and walk like a good ol boy don't mean I don't know a pile of crap when I see it of smell it.

And yes I am very passionate in CRUSHING THE HOPES AND DREAMS OF YOU DIRTBAGS AND SLAGS OUT THERE!!!!!!!

As for the good folk out there that beleived in your little scam I wish all the best for them and hope they will be able to recover there losses and shore up there business losses as well by The fly February 24, 2011 6:17 PM

OMG,
Fly was the one who tried to screw DNB.
DNB, look at the spelling. I know you remember. He spelled it the same way..Too funny. Here you thought the fly was an ally.
Fly,
Why are you so hung up on everbody getting their money out so quick?

That is not the plan. See here is the plan:

1) Make a statement here and hopefully someone from COR will feel threatened.
2)Contact the FBI, open a claim # (by the way, please post that number here)(since the fly never did). They will look in to it.
3) The FBI, since you stated, will have information, and put your mind at ease.
4) If the FBI has no info. They will start looking into COR which could take months.
5) Hopefully COR funds and the person does not have to worry.
But wait, if you request your money back and receive it. There goes your case and There goes your funding.
Sounds like you need a better plan or really think it through...

by mdudd February 24, 2011 6:34 PM

"As I stated earlier DON'T LET THIS GOOD OL BOY MANNER FOOL YA just cause i talk and walk like a good ol boy don't mean I don't know a pile of crap when I see it of smell it". You said it not me...

"And yes I am very passionate in CRUSHING THE HOPES AND DREAMS OF YOU DIRTBAGS AND SLAGS OUT THERE!!!!!!! "

See people, he is here to crushour hopes and dreams.Thanks Fly. I told you I am a project partner along with others here. You finally haveshowed your true colors.

by mdudd February 24, 2011 6:42 PM

MR. Fly,

You say your in Texas? Are you in Central part of Texas?
If so I will be in the Capital on Friday. Do you want to meet for a cup of coffee at Starbucks? We can share stories.
Thanks,

by screenname22 February 24, 2011 6:47 PM

DUDD
You critize FLY for his spelling and wording...You still haven't learned from the last time verb correction, have shown not have showed, and by the way it is not one word. But we know you have a college degree???

Elmosworld
How cute, and you call me a female...So if I F-bomb all over the place that proves something...Only proves classless to me.

Conway20
Not going anywhere...Waiting to see you all GO DOWN!!!!! by DoNotBelieve February 24, 2011 7:11 PM

See you have me doing it, criticize. by DoNotBelieve February 24, 2011 7:13 PM

DUDD

My friend is not asking for his money back. He has finally had enough. He is just turning all of what he has and knows over to the authorities. It is worth it just to see every last one of COR get their due! by DoNotBelieve February 24, 2011 7:25 PM

This is not a grammer and spelling page. Fingers fly fast and words sometime run together.
I know when I use my phone to post it really gets bad. So moving past that, we have a lot of information which I feel some is factual and some is not. Again can we just post the facts that can be verified by such users as myself. I surely do not have the resources as Mr. Fly or some of the others have. I still hold to the COR is funding belief. Why? Simple answer is of course for me is with another question. Why not? We invest with hopes of reaping a healthy profit but, when we invest we also assume the risk of losing the investment. Idle threats of running to the authorities is just that idle threats. If you have decided to go that way what is keeping you from it? Only thing would be you still hope/believe COR will fund. The fact is each one selects the path they go down. We are each committed to our own way. Mr. DNB is committed to helping a friend in his eyes. That is his path. Each and everyone has their own opinion or idea so if we can get past the bickering possible we all can help each other in one form or another.

Mr. Fly,
I will be glad to buy the coffee.

Thanks,

by screenname22 February 24, 2011 7:26 PM

lol conway is definitely doordie...the fly is extremely ignorant...seriouslyc'mon is a crybaby, you don't even have any money invested, so why are you so pressed? Whatever happens happens, and your countdown is irrelevant. None of you on here seem educated enough to deserve 100k on your investment, let alone millions and millions of dollars...anyway, I can't wait to see how this pans out! Idiots! by Millions-From-Crumbs-LOL February 24, 2011 7:38 PM

Less than 16 hours

by SeriouslyC'mon February 24, 2011 7:40 PM

Millions
I am with you on one thought...Conway is definitely DOD!
That is the craziest thing...why would anyone think they would get millions and millions?!
I think you better check that, SeriuoslyC'mon does have money invested. I thought that is what he said.

DUDD
You aren't worth throwing stones at, we know you can't conjugate a verb. You do know what that means don't you? by DoNotBelieve February 24, 2011 8:04 PM

I don't mind being DoOrdie. He's crazy for ever giving his real name, but I like the guy. He's real people. Plus, he had many of these negative folk's panties in a bunch. So what about it? by Conway20 February 24, 2011 8:24 PM

Conway 20/DoD/Cherub/Thomas/Alberto:

What about it? When you provide false information in support of a fraud, you have entered into the conspiracy to commit fraud yourself.

Dudd can't seem to remember the truth. He claims to have been funded last week yet earlier today stated that Cor's delay has caused his new business to be put on hold.

You guys have no FACTS, just more excuses for not performing. You mean to tell me that Alberto's bank can't wire out a few hundred thousand dollars without a 5 day stress check issue. How in the hell should anyone expect to get millions from these guys. Pure and simple BS from a guy who is running low on new excuses. If his update is true, he is simply too stupid to have associated with such a bank and not realize the problem after so long a period of time. Remember the "banker" he had join the update call in December? They didn't see this coming?

Tick tock, you are all about to lose. "Vengance is mine sayeth the Lord." Judgment is HIS, but there will be hell on earth until you meet your maker and explain to HIM what you have done.

Wires take minutes, bank-to-bank transfers even less time. You have 14 hours.

This is my last post as it's clear to me that Alberto is unwilling or unable, the positive posters are at best misguided and at worst complicit in the fraud. I have a big day tomorrow.

by SeriouslyC'mon February 24, 2011 9:08 PM

Hey berto

puerto rico

And Slag I like my coffee just like it comes out of the pot I wouldn't be caught in one of those fancy so called coffee houses. as to where I live humm look at my earlier post and that should give you some idea.

by The fly February 24, 2011 9:17 PM

@SeriouslyC'mon
Minus 14 hours and counting.

Just a lot of hot air. I hope you don't see a dime tomorrow. I want you to file. by Conway20 February 24, 2011 9:25 PM

Ok just trying to be nice. I was serious. I would like to share stories. Possible some other time then. I like coffee right out the pot from over the campfire so you have to let the grounds settle while it cools myself. If your with in a couple hours of Austin I could still make it? by screenname22 February 24, 2011 9:29 PM

Nice try screenname22.

Face to face confrontation is not what a coward does. So you know his so called travel to Chicago was a lie. This is a perfect medium for them. They are big and bad behind their screen names. by Conway20 February 24, 2011 9:35 PM

To all of you that are filing:

I CAN NOT DIRECT OR ADVISE YOU TO DO WHAT I AM POSTING BELOW OFFICIALLY THIS IS ONLY A SUGGESTION.

1. Once you have filed contact your local politicians and share your horror stories with them sighting the loss of local revenue and jobs due to this scam.

2. Put a word in with the local and national news outlets and share the same also ask if they can run the story to see if other victims of this scam would come forward sighting the connection with Ross as well and the Dec posting from that Tim fellar.

3. Pop on the local talk radio and start a following to draw attention to this bernie like scam.

The slags are tryingg to do damage control but it's too late the ship is sinking fast and the rats are jumping ship quicker as we see the new screen names here are of course the same old ones it all comes out in the style they have posted OMG what a joke and load of crap

3 by The fly February 24, 2011 9:35 PM

SC,
What is so hard to figure out? I got my first deposit on Friday. Since the delay happened, I will not get another until COR starts funding again. The deposit is not even close to what I need for my project. That is why the project is on hold. By the way, the stress test is probably for the entire project amount.
I told you earlier what you should do. Guess they shriveled up. by mdudd February 24, 2011 9:39 PM

Hey slag

didn't you call me out under the other screen name you used you know the one.

You are sad boy a sad sorry excuse of life. GET SOME HELP YOUNG MAN REALLY ASK FOR IT WHEN YOU GO TO JAIL OR AT LEASE SEEK IT OUT NOW. I MEAN REALLY YOU NEED REAL HELP by The fly February 24, 2011 9:40 PM

Isn't that the same lie DoOrDie's screen name used he got funded before Cor shut down. Wow it is amazing that you and the other screen name got something but no one else did and it is even more amazing that you won't show proof of that so called Funding. Problem is that nothing you or any of your other screen names here can or are beleived and all of this or that so called funding is just another lie.

Dang Boy how many screen names do you have??? No matter your problem is you can't hold true to the new name before your sick sad ass pops out OMG you are like clock work boy.

by The fly February 24, 2011 9:54 PM

My complaint against COR has grew new legs. I will not share anything on this blog, but if you are interested in filing with me, please call 206-350-9895 and leave your name and number. I will make sure my attorney contact you immediately. I am in the Washington state area and I am footing the bill. by CFTC Investigation February 24, 2011 9:55 PM

Mr. Fly
I could use a cup of coffee on Friday. Any way we can make that happen? by screenname22 February 24, 2011 9:56 PM

This crap about stress test have nothing to do with Cor's so called delay and i would advise those that are in need for more information to read up on what a bank stress text is.

And chase was not and has not been overwhelmed this week or last week so try another lie slag. Show some support of the lies you have posted here OMG you are a sick sick doggie by The fly February 24, 2011 10:02 PM

Hummmmmm

I would think all of the concerned folk here and those that they know are going directly to the locals and the feds. But you are welcomed to pick up the phone contact your local FBI office out there and add to the case load or your attorney could do that for you .

Screen name/mdudd/DoOrdie or whatever name you want to go under I keep asking you PLEASE SON GET SOME REAL MENTAL HELP YOU ARE SICK YOUNG MAN YOU NEED REAL HELP by The fly February 24, 2011 10:08 PM

Were you responding to me, the Fly? by CFTC Investigation February 24, 2011 10:26 PM

Minus 10 and counting beforea victom I know will be contacting the FBI today with their information including their Ranger's information (who they have investigated on their own) and know where that individual and his signifigant other live etc.

To the Fly: What radio station/Talk show do you know of that is already poised to go public with a shout out to victoms as you stated in an earlier post yesterday?

by daysend February 25, 2011 7:14 AM

D DAY FOR SOME...VINDICATION FOR OTHERS... by DoNotBelieve February 25, 2011 9:16 AM

Fly, thank you for all of the fraud theories. All of this work for a couple of million dollars. Why? Go to jail for 30 years or more. A lot of you keep comparing this to the Bernie Madoff scam. Guys, He took 50 BILLION. COR’s intake is estimated at 4 MILLION. There is a big difference.
Let me put this out there to everyone:
Why is COR still here? COR is not accepting any more projects. So there is no more money to be made, Statement made from the FLY. “Stop accepting money in December 2010”. We are now going into March 2011.

Why would COR still be updating? Yes with today’s technology it is possible to be anywhere in the world and communicate. But yet you can pick up a phone and contact your Ranger at any time. He/she may not want to talk to you at that time, but they do get back to you.

Why are they meeting with the banks? COR has been meeting with the banks since Tuesday. WHY? If this was a scam, there would be no banks involved.

Why stop taking on more projects? People that scam get greedy. They like the easy intake money. They do not stop. Example Bernie and he would still be doing it today if not for the market crash of Sept.2008.

Why return money if asked? It was proven on 2 accounts that monies have been returned to a Project Partner. Yes I know, people are going to say, it is a cover up, not to draw attention. If you are a project partner and not happy ask for your money back. See what happens.

Why turn down projects? Everyone should be approved. More intake money. Let’s look at the procedure. You submitted your project to COR. NO INTIAL INTAKE MONEY. COR PAID FOR THE UNDERWRITTING PROCESS. Your project was approved or denied. If denied, that was it. You were done. If approved, you received a contract that each person took to an attorney (hopefully). Your attorney made corrections and you sent it back to COR. You sign contracts. You than had to wire 20k over and wait for your project to get funding (this is the point that mostly everyone is at). Does this sound like a scam?
I will show you a scam. You submit your project to a VC. There is a charge upfront to look at the project, say 20k. After weeks of underwriting, you are denied and the money is non-refundable. There is your scam Guys. Or another popular one is, same process, but we need more money to continue and look for more funds.

Why pay 15% income tax on bringing the money to the states? If there is no funding, how come COR had to pay a 15% income tax to the IRS for bringing the money. That was documented on this site as well as some project partners have knowledge of this.

Why register with the DTCC? Part of the US Government request (oh that’s right; they have no idea as to what is going on).

Why have other public companies involved? Because those companies are registered with the DTCC and to comply with the US Government (again oh that’s right; they have no idea as to what is going on).

See here is the problem with all of us. We are all getting frustrated with this process and the delays. I /we should be getting a second funding today. It still may happen, but probably not. Please stop and think about for yourselves. Do not listen to me or anyone here. The fly wants you to go on TV. Hey Fly you go on TV. You expose yourself. Stop being an anonymous coward and come out of the closet. Stop trying to tell everyone what they should do. People go to CNN, MSNBC,CNMC,FOX News. They would love this story. They would also cover the facts alot quick than the authorities, but keep in mind. Once you do this there is no turning back.

Unfortunately there are people here that are getting so desperate, they will do anything and listen to anyone. People stop and think. Look at everybody on this site and remember, nobody is who claim to be. Take this blog for what it is worth. For some it is for information and for some it is some personal pleaseure or vindication. God gave you the ability to think for yourself. Please use it. Be a LEADER and not a FOLLOWER.

by mdudd February 25, 2011 10:08 AM

For the past few months I have sat here and read all these meaningless entries,, I really believe everyone needs to take a PMS table and go lay down somewhere and rest.. Your mouths are moving but your mind is STUCK!!!! Everyday we all have decissions to make and if you don't like the way COR is performing so be it get the H*LL out of the way so the rest of us can go forward... I get so tired of always wanting to wipe someones nose just because someone called you a name or peed in your corn flakes.. GET A LIFE. The project Partners have a dream and desire to continue and yet the losers of the process are standing on the sidelines whinning and crying because they have been dropped from the process or just not invited to be a part of the dreamers. I haven't been funded either but I'm not stupid, things like this do happen and believe me I will be right there when it happens, and then look out, I have alot of dreams for alot of people out there.. by Net February 25, 2011 10:49 AM

Well said NET. Good luck to you!!!! and no me and net are not the same blogger FYI... by mdudd February 25, 2011 11:41 AM

Net...DREAM ON!

DUDD

Let me get this straight...You have 4 Million intake, so you said. At $20,000 each, that means you have 200 Project Partners.

My friend thinks he is going to be funded Millions to him. Not down the road, but right away. Where is the rest of this money coming from? It doesn't add up! by DoNotBelieve February 25, 2011 11:59 AM

Again...This don’t make any sense at all. Call me small minded of whatever, but this a smart CFO unless he is running some kind of fraud or some kind of ponzi scheme or the other, wouldn’t fund that many projects "fresh" coming out of the gates.

A smart CEO would start with a handful(say 6-10 pilot projects) fund those, work out the kinks, troubleshoot those, improve the process... and so on..... Debug any problems, on the first round, second round etc, then increase that number incrementally, .......building up capability and credibility as time go on.

But what do we have here?

Six or seven guys on laptops operating from "hotSpots" (maybe the same starbucks screenname22 is inviting you to the FLY to) on Skype, VOIP, and email, operating out of post office boxes. They send these so call "updates" which is nothing more than unless excuses.

I am putting this theory forward.................., a bunch that incompetent, (and know from these ranger emails) can NOT manage that size or money or that volume of projects simultaneously. Never, not in a million years.

VICTIMS are convinced through deception to wire 20k into their bank accounts (they are not there to receive it personally). Then they stay off in these "remote locations" maybe overseas for all you know and send you these "useless periodic email and do damage control on this blog.

Jesse James and Bonnie and Clyde would have loved to have such a scheme to “OVERWHELM THE BANKING SYSTEM”. by summerheat February 25, 2011 12:50 PM

DUDD

According to your buddy Conway20 in his lengthy message, dated Feb 19.Said there was a COR MasterTrust...Whatever that means, and it was funded by an unknown source to the tune of 100Million dollars. Coming into to the US from a patron/lender, not sure how he put it. He did not know the source and from where it was coming from. I did ask this once already but nobody seems to know anything!
100 Million is quite a bit more than 4 million and nobody knows anything about it, I find that a little stange...! by DoNotBelieve February 25, 2011 1:01 PM

DNB

COR MasterTrust???????? Please!!!!!!!!

I get two or three emails everyday from Nigeria and similar places, with similar story lines or plots..... But the objective is the same, to separate you from your hard earned money.

by summerheat February 25, 2011 1:10 PM

@ DNB.
That is your problem with this (and I am Not singling you out). Not knowing. Remember there is money that came into this country. They had to pay the IRS for this. That did not come from me but another blogger on this site. I personally do not know where the money is coming from. Some people are speculating gold back assets and again, that came from another blogger on this site. This does make sense because of the DTCC involvement. The fly has his own theory, which would have shut down the whole process years ago. But I do not know....If you or he thinks it comes from the intake money, well obviously that’s not going to happen. Remember what happened to Lehman Brothers and other Companies that were over leveraged. They went belly up. That is why the Government is all over this. The US Government has put in certain compliance procedures, to ensure this massive project does not go Belly up. Again, there is a lot of money at stake, more than probably anyone of us knows. For the bank to have to run stress tests, it would have to be in the hundreds of Billions. In a way it is a good thing the banks are doing this. Meaning, once funding does start, for some again, there will not be another delay or stoppage. Keep in mind we are all going to get smaller amounts and then receive larger amounts a couple of months from now. Yes we are all aware that Billions, if not trillions, of dollars are moved around each day, due to the stock market. Again when an influx of more money comes in and out of these banks, it throws that backend infrastructure out of whack (servers could crash the system with the safety measures that are implemented). Hopefully this cleared up some things for you.

Summer Heat,
Yes, it probably would have been easier to do a smaller amount of projects to start. But again, it would have taken a lot longer to do all of this work over again each time. COR has their reason for doing such a large project and that is their business. Not mine, yours or anybody else’s.

Dream, vision, same thing. Normally that’s where an idea begins. Now I understand why you spend so much time on this blog trying to protect people that don’t need any protection. Obviously, you are speaking on something you know nothing about. I have a question for you. What’s another name for Humanitarian Funding? Interest generated from rich people money. Tax sheltered of course.

Now I understand why you call yourself DoNotBelieve, might as well be DreamKiller!! Good thing Bill Gates and Warren Buffett didn't surround themselves with friends like you.

by MyBizness February 25, 2011 1:21 PM

MyBizness,
Good call on the Humanitarian Funding.... by mdudd February 25, 2011 1:25 PM

mdudd
It is not "doing" the process all over again, because you would have different projects starting at different times. The mistakes made on the first set of projects would not be repeated on the later projects. Also the precedure would improve and cut down on number of "variables" and "unknowns" as the process "finetunes".

Something just dont "smell" right about this.

by summerheat February 25, 2011 1:37 PM

mdudd
Anybody who contributes to this blog has their vested interest to do so. It is not your place to say whose business it is. by summerheat February 25, 2011 1:45 PM

SummerHeat, excuse me. Are you a funder? Can you help me with getting my project funded? What can you do as it relates to funding? I was always told, if you can’t cook stay out the damn kitchen. Bitching I don’t need, funding I do!!! Now, can you smell that? by MyBizness February 25, 2011 1:48 PM

MyBizness
WTF are you smoking!!!!! I never said i was a funder. Please!!!!!Please!!!!!Please!!!!! take a time out.

by summerheat February 25, 2011 1:54 PM

SummerSweet

Didn't think so, well STFU!!! by MyBizness February 25, 2011 2:03 PM

MyBizness
I can say whatever I want. Also if you are part of THIS ongoing fraud, I suggest you turn yourself in to the police and save the taxpayer money. by summerheat February 25, 2011 2:12 PM

I have not done totally mad, but if any one google's fraud, I want this to be one of the first pages that comes up

Start thinking outside the BOX!!!and not the $1.98 mentality. Again I say there are those who have and those who don't..I have been waiting for a year now and no-one has lied to me,, maybe there is a reason for them decieving you... Surely by all the BS from those douting Thomas's you have ever recieved or sent out a large Bank Wire over 10K they ask for drivers lic, birth cert, and lean towards your FIRST BORN. We're talking Billions no thousands, get real it takes time..
You talk about Project Partners??? what about those Assets Partners????
Mr. fly, go away and sit upon a large pile where you can enjoy the aroma of what you have surrounded yourself with. summerheat, honey you have had a melt down.
I have the hope, desire,and will power to withstand any and all of you that have the doubts!!!!
Mdudd,MyBizness keep up the good vibes by Net February 25, 2011 2:58 PM

Mr Net, MDudd or MyBizness or any other one of these screennames you choose to go by. Let me tell you something, I have sent and recieved hundreds of thousands of dollars (much more than this little 100k on the so called first wire transfer) in wire transfers both domestic and internationally and it has never taken a week. This is the greatest BS I have ever heard.

by summerheat February 25, 2011 3:24 PM

Summer Heat,
Good for you. I actually really do not care how many wires you have sent out. I am going to assume you are a project partner. So I will address you that way. If you are not happy, contact Alberto directly. Do not be afraid. He will not bite you. Tell him how you feel. Or the other option is go to the FBI. Tell them your story. You are here complaining. Do something about it. You think this is a fraud of scam. So take the correct measures. by mdudd February 25, 2011 3:32 PM

Well as you know from previous post I arrived in Texas today. Lots of great helpful people here. I have not been called Son or Boy yet. Seems like that might have been an urban legend.

I can say,"That lots of things have been posted today."
I still feel COR will fund. I will continue to believe that until something is done or said to verify anything different.

Like I have previously posted, I am not any other person on this blog. I will continue to check this blog and emails until the preplexing issue is resolved.

Mr. Fly,
Sorry you missed a wonderful cup of coffee this morning.

Thanks, by screenname22 February 25, 2011 3:50 PM

SummerSweet,

I could use a 100K right now. Send it to me and I'll pay you back when my funding comes in. Since you are bolstering about domestic and international wire transfers, you must be connected with a bank or something. If not, again, STFU! by MyBizness February 25, 2011 3:58 PM

thank ya slag

For the invite but i had my coffee this morning bright and early the weather is right pleasent today.

Oh and slag I told ya I don't drink that store bought fancy colored water and I sure as hell don't drink with slags.

As for the radio station that will carry this Cor scam I will ask for the time and date and the station I beleive it was one of those coast to coast ones but at this point please don't hold me to it I just got wind of it the other day in passing so I'm taking it with a grain of salt until I can confirm the facts.

Now screen name or whatever other screen name you want to Please as I posted before (PLEASE GET SOME REAL MENTAL HELP I'M PUTTING ALL THE COWBOY HUMOR ASIDE AND PLEADING WITH YOU TO GET SOME HELP)

by The fly February 25, 2011 4:12 PM

MyBizness

Earlier today you said I had no vision, no dream. You are quite wrong I have both...But this COR deal you think is a Dream...Maybe a Pipe Dream...Is more like a nightmare!!!

You can wait as long as you want...Till Hell freezes over for that matter. You would think two years would be enough to teach you all a lesson. No banks take a week to wire transfer funds like this. They deal in larger amounts of money than this everyday. The bank excuse is such BS!

SeriouslyC'mon should have has his appointment by now. Maybe he will let us know how it went.

Today was the last straw for my friend. He is scheduling his appointment with the authorities on Monday.

by DoNotBelieve February 25, 2011 4:15 PM

Okay All

As I posted I can not ask or direct you to do this OFFICIALLY but I would highly suggest that you or anyone connected with this scam to.

1. File a report with the local's and the Feds

2. Take your horror story to the local and national news outl;ets

3. Inform the IRS of your intake fee loss and any business loss you incured while under this scam.

4. Urge your Cor rep to go to the local cops and tell there story and clear there names.

5. Seek funding from another V/C or J/V company you can vet 100% and that has a proven track record.

6. File for collections of your losses with a collection agency.

Remember folks these slags out here are just that when they can't sweet talk you or try to fool you with there BS they then become very baligant useing different screen names to appear to be more than what the two or at times one seem to be. These are the true facts that can not be denyed No matter what amount of double talk or threats are made.

1. In the 2 or 3 years Cor has been Taking folks money Not one project has been funded.

2. In the 2 or 3 years that Cor has claimed to have the monies to fund they have come up with every excuse in the book to avoid paying out.

3. In the 2 or 3 years that Cor has been taking money from folks they have never provided a real address where they could be located and all of the reps, Cor does not pay have just been voices on the phone.

4. There has always been just a select few that have been funded But has never been able to provide proof of any of there claims.

5. After all the lies Cor and the others on different website have tryed to tell all of which have been disproved and confirmed as out and out lies.

6. The Victims of this scam are many and the fact that most of the money they invested with the hopes to receive a vast return are just that a hope there is nothing to receive because there is no money left.

by The fly February 25, 2011 4:33 PM

DoNotBeleive

Mybiz is just another screen name for the same two sick slags here thats all.

And great to hear your friend is filing.I hope that my post here have been and are still helpful and show some sort of direction into the process by The fly February 25, 2011 4:37 PM

Just wondering how everybody made out today with the FBI.
Here is how the conversation will go:
Person with the problem (pwtp): I would like to report a fraud or scam.
FBI: Okay please fill out all of the paperwork.
PWTP: I am done with the paperwork. Here is all of the info that I have.
FBI: Okay, please explain to me what the problem is and how you were a victim of fraud.
PWTP: I sent in 20k and have not received any money. I have emails and contracts and etc.
FBI: Okay. You sent your money in (Let’s say 12 months ago). Ok, you have a receipt. Good. Let me look at the contract. Wait, it says here that you can get your money back at any time. Why did you not do that?
PWTP: Because I am waiting for my funding. It has been around a year and still no money.
FBI: But you have email communications.
PWTP: Yes.
FBI: When was the last one dated?
PWTP: 2-22-2011.
FBI: Did you try to get your money out?
PWTP: No.
FBI: Why not?
PWTP: Because I was hoping they would fund.
FBI: Well you need to ask for your money back first. If you do not receive your money back then we can look into for you.
PWTP: But if I get my money back, then my project is cancelled.
FBI: Are you not here to report a scam?
PWTP: Well yes I am.
FBI: Than you need to ask for your money back, if you do not get it back, than we will get involved. If you are given your money back, than there is no scam. CASE CLOSED!!!!!!!!

by mdudd February 25, 2011 4:51 PM

Well slags it's Friday 3:48 here in Texas and not a peep from the banks we called and Oh yea Chase said they had no problem transfering 100B or 500B in a day from anywhere in the world and Oh yea The IRS would not have a problem processing that amount into the different accounts at all either you see slags it's all taken out before it hits the bank.

He is pretty set on what he wants to do. Has all his files in order. I know he will not go to any media, that just is not him. by DoNotBelieve February 25, 2011 4:55 PM

HEY SLAG

IT DON'T WORK THAT WAY CLOWN BUT I AM SURE YOU WOULD KNOW RIGHT ????

LIKE I SAID PLEASE DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND GET SOME HELP SON YOU NEED IT PLEASE JUST WALK INTO THE NEAREST HOSPITAL AND TELL THEM YOU HEEN A MENTAL WORKUP by The fly February 25, 2011 4:56 PM

Hey fly,
RED FLAG ALERT "As I posted I can not ask or direct you to do this OFFICIALLY but I would highly suggest that you or anyone connected with this scam to." WHY CAN YOU NOT DO THIS!!!!!!!
HOW COME YOU ARE NOT GOING TO THE MEDIA OUTLETS?????PEOPLE THINK FOR YOURSELVES. DO NOT LET ME OR THE FLY TELL YOU WHAT TO DO......
SINCE I AM SLAG, YOU ARE THE STUFF THAT COMES OUT OF MY BUTT HOLE........ WAIT I NEED TO WIPE...

by mdudd February 25, 2011 4:58 PM

DNB

Anything today is possible in the financial arena. Who would have thought Lehman Brothers, 100-year old company would go out of business or many of the large reputable banks creating and selling collateralized debt products that they bet against in order to make money when the mortgage market crashed. So please spare me about what and what can’t happen especially in the banking industry.
The only certainty in the banking industry these days is that it nearly impossible to get money even to purchase a car, let alone a development project.

I have faith in God, COR is only a vessel that was introduced to us for the purpose of providing whatever they’re here to provide. I have been working on my project for over 4-years, so waiting could be my middle name. In fact, if I was having another child his or her name would probably be Waiting. It’s takes time. One thing I can say, I’m wiser than I was when this journey begin. Tell your friend, good luck and good riddance. I’m too far out there to turn back now. I’m too far from shore to swim back, so either way, I’ll drown. So, I have to see it through.

DNB, what will you do with yourself once your friend drops out. I guess this will be your last post as well.
I don’t even waste time replying to the Fly, that’s below my pay grade.

by MyBizness February 25, 2011 4:59 PM

@mdudd
Absolutely perfect!

@The fly
What's up with Chase? No one knows anything about a Chase. How do Chase fit into the picture? Please explain. by Conway20 February 25, 2011 5:00 PM

FLY,
Please go to your people at the IRS and ask them about the 15% income tax that COR has paid...Do some real research for a change...You may be suprised by the answer.... by mdudd February 25, 2011 5:00 PM

Just in case people have missed it:

Just wondering how everybody made out today with the FBI.
Here is how the conversation will go:
Person with the problem (pwtp): I would like to report a fraud or scam.
FBI: Okay please fill out all of the paperwork.
PWTP: I am done with the paperwork. Here is all of the info that I have.
FBI: Okay, please explain to me what the problem is and how you were a victim of fraud.
PWTP: I sent in 20k and have not received any money. I have emails and contracts and etc.
FBI: Okay. You sent your money in (Let’s say 12 months ago). Ok, you have a receipt. Good. Let me look at the contract. Wait, it says here that you can get your money back at any time. Why did you not do that?
PWTP: Because I am waiting for my funding. It has been around a year and still no money.
FBI: But you have email communications.
PWTP: Yes.
FBI: When was the last one dated?
PWTP: 2-22-2011.
FBI: Did you try to get your money out?
PWTP: No.
FBI: Why not?
PWTP: Because I was hoping they would fund.
FBI: Well you need to ask for your money back first. If you do not receive your money back then we can look into for you.
PWTP: But if I get my money back, then my project is cancelled.
FBI: Are you not here to report a scam?
PWTP: Well yes I am.
FBI: Than you need to ask for your money back, if you do not get it back, than we will get involved. If you are given your money back, than there is no scam. CASE CLOSED!!!!!!!!

by mdudd February 25, 2011 5:02 PM

I think the one thing that really amazes me is...There are still, thought to be intelligent people out there, that think this will actually happen someday...WAKE UP PEOPLE! TWO YEARS! TWO YEARS!
Some on here tell the non-believers to GET A LIFE...You better look in the mirror youselves, move on, and GET A LIFE!

There is legtimate funding out there, that doesn't take your money and give you nothing but excuses for TWO YEARS! by DoNotBelieve February 25, 2011 5:05 PM

mdudd

Brilliant!!! by MyBizness February 25, 2011 5:08 PM

Everytime "FLY" types it reasures to me that they do let the handicap type... If DoNotBelieve has funding why is he handing around with us? Trust me when I get my funding there are those on here will get together for a real good time. Those that have "HAVE and those who don't "CRY", "LIE" & "BI**H" because they don't. The money is coming and us that "HAVE" will rule and run over those who don't..... by Net February 25, 2011 5:32 PM

NET
Do you not read? I do not have funding nor am I waiting for funding! Think I am smarter than to be pulled in by this BS! My money is already at work.

MrBiz
Please tell me you are not putting GOD and COR in the same sentence...You want to go to Hell? I guess you are going to sink then.
I am not leaving here until this is finished! However long that takes!

DUDD
My friend is not the Media type...Authorities are one thing Media...No! by DoNotBelieve February 25, 2011 5:55 PM

NET
You sure are full of yourself...Take another look! by DoNotBelieve February 25, 2011 5:57 PM

NET
Another one for you...Golden Rule...He who has the Gold Rules.
And COR doesn't have it! And neither do you! by DoNotBelieve February 25, 2011 6:00 PM

YOU ALL ARE REALLY PATHETIC! PIPE DREAMS! SCAMS! PONZI SCHEMES! IT IS COMING TO AN END! TOO MANY PEOPLE GOING TO THE AUTHORITIES! GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN! by DoNotBelieve February 25, 2011 6:12 PM

well DoNotBelieve, you don't have a life either. I do go by "Those that live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks". YES I'm full of myself I live everyday to help those who need help and encourage those who need it. COR is also full of it.. All the goodness they can handle. They believe in the Golden Rule, and they will be successful and do my funding...I truly know more than I can say on this BLOG since it's people like you (DoNotBelieve) and (FLY) that I hope to run across one of these days.. LITERALLY. by Net February 25, 2011 6:22 PM

Net
Actually I have a great life and I am glad I don't have to rely on COR for my future!
You make me want to throw up..." I want to help those who need help"...Give me a break. What a bunch of BS! You need HELP!

by DoNotBelieve February 25, 2011 6:54 PM

Well I understand how some people just want to end the nightmare. As I said it was just a suggestion to bring more attention and to alert other Victims of this scam. by The fly February 25, 2011 7:16 PM

Hummm

just as the earlier screen names that were so called Cor partner made these amazing inside claims all droped off so did DoOrDie and them pops in the new ones all sounding the same Oh at first subdued but as the truth continued to be placed at there feet the fangs and true selfs came out.

I WILL CONTINUE TO PLEAD WITH THE TWO MULTI SCREEN NAME USER HERE PLEASE GO SEEK MENTAL HELP IT'S NOT TOO LATE PLEASE DO YOURSELF(S) AND YOUR FAMILY(S)A FAVOR IF YOU HAVE ANY TO GET THE HELP YOU NEED. JAIL AIN'T GONA BE THAT BAD WITH ALL OF YOUR HEALTH PROBLEMS THE DRUGS THEY FILL YOU UP WITH AND HELP IN THERE WILL MAKE THE YEARS YOU WILL BE THERE PASS QUICKLY THE FACT YOU MAY NEVER SEE THE OUTSIDE OF PRISON WELL YOU HAVE GOD AND YOUR DOCTORS AND OF COURSE YOUR EMPIRE THAT DWELLS IN THE DARK CORNERS OF YOUR SICK AND TWISTED NIGHTMARE OF A MIND. I WILL SAY A PREYER FOR YOU THIS SUNDAY SLAG(S) by The fly February 25, 2011 7:27 PM

It would be fair to say you can disreguard any of the post placed here by the two slags posing as other so called loyal Cor Partners and just focus on the task at hand and Try to alert as many of the Victims that have been affected by this scam.

I would also like to point out to you all out there that as of today and it is now 6:34pm here in Texas and the banks are of course all closed there has been NO large transfer qouted By the slags here with Cor's name on anything and as for the lie that Alberto was at the bank all day thats a lie there is no reason that would keep anyone at the bank all day for any reason and in the case of this so called Billion dollar transfer it would only that 30mins to an hour to clear up any errors and to have the money in the accounts all over the country But No nothing and to bring up the DTCC again is priceless OMG thats a hoot.

Slags No matter what you post or user name you morph into the fact will always be the same your low life scum sucking slags that stole from good people and jail is really too good for the likes of you.

by The fly February 25, 2011 7:40 PM

LIKE IS SAID BEFORE AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN DON'T LET THIS COUNRTY GOOD OL BOY BANTER FOOL YA . I MAY TALK LIKE THAT BUT I GOT YOUR NUMBER.

Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD NIGHT AND ENJOY ALL THAT FREE AIR AS LONG AS Y'ALL CAM I WOULD TAKE DOUBLE BREATHS IFIN I WERE Y'ALL

AND REMEMBER GET SOME HELP PLEASE DO YOURSELFS A FAVOR AND SEEK MEDICAL MENTAL HELP PLEASE. TURN YOURSELFS IN MAKE IT A BIT EASIER ON YOURSELFS by The fly February 25, 2011 7:47 PM

Mr. Fly,

You got my number give me a call. Still would like to share stories.
Thanks by screenname22 February 25, 2011 7:58 PM

For now on I will address the fly as Mr. ASS CLOWN.
Mr. ASS CLOWN,
Please stop your rambling and your gibberish. Go to CNN and tell them your story. Come out of the shadows and come forward. Show yourself coward (and that is being polite). I still keep checking CNN and do not see anyone from COR on there. Wonder why? You still keep telling people to go and file a complaint with the FBI. I already told you what would happen.
Just in case people have missed it:

Just wondering how everybody made out today with the FBI.
Here is how the conversation will go:
Person with the problem (pwtp): I would like to report a fraud or scam.
FBI: Okay please fill out all of the paperwork.
PWTP: I am done with the paperwork. Here is all of the info that I have.
FBI: Okay, please explain to me what the problem is and how you were a victim of fraud.
PWTP: I sent in 20k and have not received any money. I have emails and contracts and etc.
FBI: Okay. You sent your money in (Let’s say 12 months ago). Ok, you have a receipt. Good. Let me look at the contract. Wait, it says here that you can get your money back at any time. Why did you not do that?
PWTP: Because I am waiting for my funding. It has been around a year and still no money.
FBI: But you have email communications.
PWTP: Yes.
FBI: When was the last one dated?
PWTP: 2-22-2011.
FBI: Did you try to get your money out?
PWTP: No.
FBI: Why not?
PWTP: Because I was hoping they would fund.
FBI: Well you need to ask for your money back first. If you do not receive your money back then we can look into for you.
PWTP: But if I get my money back, then my project is cancelled.
FBI: Are you not here to report a scam?
PWTP: Well yes I am.
FBI: Than you need to ask for your money back, if you do not get it back, than we will get involved. If you are given your money back, than there is no scam. CASE CLOSED!!!!!!!!
For the project partners that are the bubble. Please read my statement above about the FBI and disgruntled Project Partner. Unfortunately that is how the conversation will go down. So before you open a can of worms for yourself, ask for your money back so you do not look like a fool…I personally have no problem with any one opening a claim. Just do it because that is what you feel you have to do. Please think for yourselves on this. Do not do this because of some anonymous people spreading their beliefs on a blog.
Notices when you bring up good points, the non-believers have nothing to say. It just gets ignored.
“Fly, thank you for all of the fraud theories. All of this work for a couple of million dollars. Why? Go to jail for 30 years or more. A lot of you keep comparing this to the Bernie Madoff scam. Guys, He took 50 BILLION. COR’s intake is estimated at 4 MILLION. There is a big difference.
Let me put this out there to everyone:
Why is COR still here? COR is not accepting any more projects. So there is no more money to be made, Statement made from the FLY. “Stop accepting money in December 2010”. We are now going into March 2011.”

Why would COR still be updating? Yes with today’s technology it is possible to be anywhere in the world and communicate. But yet you can pick up a phone and contact your Ranger at any time. He/she may not want to talk to you at that time, but they do get back to you.

Why are they meeting with the banks? COR has been meeting with the banks since Tuesday. WHY? If this was a scam, there would be no banks involved.

Why stop taking on more projects? People that scam get greedy. They like the easy intake money. They do not stop. Example Bernie and he would still be doing it today if not for the market crash of Sept.2008.

Why return money if asked? It was proven on 2 accounts that monies have been returned to a Project Partner. Yes I know, people are going to say, it is a cover up, not to draw attention. If you are a project partner and not happy ask for your money back. See what happens.

Why turn down projects? Everyone should be approved. More intake money. Let’s look at the procedure. You submitted your project to COR. NO INTIAL INTAKE MONEY. COR PAID FOR THE UNDERWRITTING PROCESS. Your project was approved or denied. If denied, that was it. You were done. If approved, you received a contract that each person took to an attorney (hopefully). Your attorney made corrections and you sent it back to COR. You sign contracts. You than had to wire 20k over and wait for your project to get funding (this is the point that mostly everyone is at). Does this sound like a scam?
I will show you a scam. You submit your project to a VC. There is a charge upfront to look at the project, say 20k. After weeks of underwriting, you are denied and the money is non-refundable. There is your scam Guys. Or another popular one is, same process, but we need more money to continue and look for more funds.

Why pay 15% income tax on bringing the money to the states? If there is no funding, how come COR had to pay a 15% income tax to the IRS for bringing the money. That was documented on this site as well as some project partners have knowledge of this.

Why register with the DTCC? Part of the US Government request (oh that’s right; they have no idea as to what is going on).

Why have other public companies involved? Because those companies are registered with the DTCC and to comply with the US Government (again oh that’s right; they have no idea as to what is going on).

See here is the problem with all of us. We are all getting frustrated with this process and the delays. I /we should be getting a second funding today. It still may happen, but probably not. Please stop and think about for yourselves. Do not listen to me or anyone here. The fly wants you to go on TV. Hey Fly you go on TV. You expose yourself. Stop being an anonymous coward and come out of the closet. Stop trying to tell everyone what they should do. People go to CNN, MSNBC,CNMC,FOX News. They would love this story. They would also cover the facts alot quick than the authorities, but keep in mind. Once you do this there is no turning back.

Unfortunately there are people here that are getting so desperate, they will do anything and listen to anyone. People stop and think. Look at everybody on this site and remember, nobody is who claim to be. Take this blog for what it is worth. For some it is for information and for some it is some personal pleasure or vindication. God gave you the ability to think for yourself. Please use it. Be a LEADER and not a FOLLOWER
Mr. ASS CLOWN,
Please read the above statement carefully and ask any questions. I understand there are some big words here and you may not be able to follow. In case you were wondering, this was addressed to you earlier, yet all you could come back with is the DTCC. Keep trying to find COR. You never will…. You will have to dig a little deeper. Actually you have mentioned the company before. So put your investigative hat on and do a little research. You can actually find the answer on the internet and not some super FBI computer. Also ask your connection at the IRS about the 15% tax. See what answer you come up with. It will surprise you…..If you have any connections in the IRS? Again, read this, I am curious about what non-sense you will have to say. You wanted Facts. HERE THEY ARE………Now have at it.

by mdudd February 25, 2011 8:44 PM

MDudd, keep up the good work.

Proverbs 26:5, when arguing with fools, be sure to answer their foolish arguments, or they will become wise in their own estimation.

Where there’s good there’s evil, where’s positive forces there’s negative forces and where there’s angels there’s demons. The balance of the ever changing universe, with the only constant, GOD!!!

DNB, what part you don’t understand fool? When God is in the mix, there is no one or nothing bigger. I repeat, I have faith in God, COR is only a vessel that was introduced to us for the purpose of providing whatever they’re here to provide.

You are already in hell on earth and if I was your friend I would pray for you and tell you to mine your business. We all have a role or purpose, when you discover what that is, you produce. Please figure out what your purpose is. This is not it and as far as I’m concerned, you are already finished. First of all, it begins with prayer.

by MyBizness February 26, 2011 6:32 AM

MyBiz

To me GOD and COR don't belong in the same sentence, no matter how you word it. I am not a fool, I have faith in God also, but I won't be praying for COR, when there are so many more important things in this world that we need God's help with. Really we don't need all your Proverb messages. If we want spiritual help we have places to go for that and you aren't one of them.I think you should stay away from the Religious angle, Religion is a very personal matter and should not be brought up on this blog, it isn't appropriate. Everyone has their own beliefs and leave it at that.

Now I really know you are one of the other screen names, because they used mine your own business before and of course we know, or at least educated people know, it is mind not mine. Remember that? Miners mine...! Bet you do!

My friend is much more calm not that he has made a decision on what to do, and has thanked me for my tenaciuosness in this matter on his behalf. You stick to your friends, if you have any, and I will stick to mine.

by DoNotBelieve February 26, 2011 8:44 AM

Everyone on this Blog,
People; please realize what is going on here. We go back and forth about whether COR is for real or not, will they or won’t they fund. Joke, swear, get aggravated etc. So far what has not happened is COR has not fully funded during this. We are all waiting, growing tired, getting frustrated, and feeling like we are being twisted in 1,000 different directions. Some bloggers know exactly what COR is doing, how much money they are dealing with, how many total projects they have taken on. Some people speculate. Project Partners are waiting for full funding, yes to start their projects and in doing so will put a lot of people back to work. These people are the ones who are in desperate need for a job. To feed their families, provide shelter, etc. That is what COR’s looking to accomplish. For the people who do not believe this, do you really think that people are that sick and twisted? I showed you yesterday, how much the estimated intake money was and we all agree it is not a lot of money. We also talked about where the money for the funding of these projects is coming from (Yes I do have good knowledge of where the money is coming from and how it was raised and so do others and I WILLNEVER POST IT, That is Nobody’s Business). That number is astronomical and Project Partners were showed the number and the exact amount of projects and that number too is astronomical, in an email a couple of months ago, so this is not a big secret or speculation. COR has showed nothing but progression over the past 2 years. There were many hurdles and obstacles’, some we know of and some we do not, and this is the final and the hardest task, to get us all our money. Some think wiring money is simple. I personally have wired money and it is very easy, which leads me to believe that there is more to it than we realize. Remember it is not one wire. It is multiple and the wires are to go out every week. That could be the complexity, especially if they are trying to automate the process and along with the bank having to run some sort of stress test for Government Compliance, no wonder why there is a delay. Hopefully this delay will be corrected in a timely fashion, like yesterday. One thing is for sure, there is not going to be any more email updates because of a certain individual who decided to post an email on this blog. My personal thought and this is speculation, is there is not going to be an update, you will just wake up one day, hopefully soon, and see some sort of activity in your account. As for those people who feel the need to go to the authorities, Please do not post your intention, just do it, but before you do it, make sure you talk to a lawyer and also put in a request for your initial deposit back. If you do not get it back, than and only than you will have a case. I know the no-believers’ will have some rebuttal. But again people I say BE A LEADER and NOT A FOLLOWER……

by mdudd February 26, 2011 8:51 AM

DNB,
Your friend is weak. He has to listen to others. He should grow up and learn to think for himself. He relies on you to show him the way, which means he is a follower. I can't wait till he goes to the FBI. I showed you yesterday how that conversation will go down. BTW did he ask for his money back? by mdudd February 26, 2011 8:55 AM

I am going to say no. by mdudd February 26, 2011 8:57 AM

Which means he is still on the fence. Leaning back and forth. Go to the FBI, but if COR funds I will still get my money. It will not work that way.. by mdudd February 26, 2011 8:58 AM

There are individuals on this blog suffering from Multiple Personality Disorder, he knows who he is, and should seek help.

by summerheat February 26, 2011 9:13 AM

SHeat

That is evident by the messages and the way they are written. I don't know who he/they think they are kidding? by DoNotBelieve February 26, 2011 9:44 AM

DUDD

Friend has made a decision, not on the fence anymore,
you call him weak, you don't even know him. I call him disgusted. He knows to make a case he will need to ask for his money back. Although a while back someone did mention that breaking these promised funding deadlines and contract terms is thought to be fraud or conspiracy to commit fraud. The contract terms have definitely been broken. So we shall see. We are not contract attorneys, but he will get advice from a reputable source. by DoNotBelieve February 26, 2011 9:52 AM

DNB
Yeah ...Who is he kidding?

I see my "learned friend" on here dramatizing various roles. One minute he is a "project partner" the other minite her is a "hollywood script writer" next moment, he is a "banker" and the list go on an on.

One thing I could assure him, it is not going end like the "characters he have in his warp little script".

DNB, first you are protector, then you are psyche and now you are an educator. First of all, I’m still trying to figure out who are you trying to protect, secondly, I just started posting to this blog a few days ago, but have been reading some of the nonsense for sometimes, like you, what else is there to do while I’m waiting to be funded and finally, before you throw stones from your glass house, make sure you are grammatically correct before you start correcting because it draws light on everything you say. “My friend is much more calm not that he has made a decision on what to do” I guess you meant “now”, or at least educated people knew what you meant, but since we are being so proper on this informal blog, I thought I would call you out.

For me, being spiritual is never an angle. It believing in something bigger than me, it’s speaking as if it were, its faith and there is always a place for God. I’m actually a minister of my experiences. Now I understand why you are so lost.

By the way, last time I checked this blog, it is personal. Why else would you be so personally involved, with nothing invested, nothing to lose and spending all this time on behalf of a friend. Like I stated before, please figure out what your purpose is so you can produce. Otherwise, you are lost and as far as your friend, the blind is leading the blind.

Please understand, I’m not praying for COR, they seem to know what it is they are trying to achieve, I’m praying for you.

SummerSweet, I thought you were out somewhere opening a bank so that you can give workshops on domestic and international wire transfers.

by MyBizness February 26, 2011 10:17 AM

You see here again, these morons come on here, suffering from Multiple Personality Disorder and misquoting me. Show me....., where did I say, that I was somewhere opening a bank?

by summerheat February 26, 2011 10:30 AM

Oh my goodne...ss..!!! SummerSweet, did you at least send the 100K like I asked? If not, well open your big ears and listen, STFU!!!!! by MyBizness February 26, 2011 10:36 AM

MyBiz

You can wiggle as much as you want...The phrase mine your own business was used before by one of your personalities and I called you on it. Miners work in the mines, I know you remember.
Right I meant now, just like you meant mind, once a mistake twice the same thing, I don't think so.

Drop the spiritual crap you are not my priest! Don't pray for me, I don't want it from you of all people.
Religion is personal, it doesn't belong here. Drop the compassionate charade, it doesn't become you. People don't need your sermonizing!

Stick to the facts: COR HAS NOT FUNDED!

My friend was blind but his eyes are open now. Yes and being friends does make it personal for me.

COR does know what they are trying to achieve...Fraud, Scam, Ponzi Scheme...!

by DoNotBelieve February 26, 2011 10:37 AM

MyBiz

Wow! One minute you go from The Sermon On The Mount, to telling Summeheat STFU!!!!

You are further gone than we all thought, you do need help.

What do you think your GOD would think about that comment to Summerheat?

by DoNotBelieve February 26, 2011 10:43 AM

After a few post on this blog about research and finding things on the internet, I did just that. Postings have said no EIN's. Well I came up with one after doing some surfing on the internet. Amazing what you can find when you really get busy and look for it. I must admit after reading all the blog, listening to both sides, I was becoming more skeptical. But alas, after being challenged to truly look at the available facts I am reassured this morning. I still believe COR will fund.
You may call me a fool or other names but I only have to be true to what I believe.
Thanks for the challenge, by screenname22 February 26, 2011 10:46 AM

MyBiz,Othername,Othername,Othername, etc.

YOU ARE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!! by DoNotBelieve February 26, 2011 10:47 AM

SCN22

Maybe you should fill us all in then. Since you were the only one to find an EIN.

SHARE YOUR FINDINGS!

We are all looking for proof! by DoNotBelieve February 26, 2011 10:50 AM

DNB
It is obvious these morons are delusional. They need to seek help and stop playing games, and just turn themselves in. Sooner or later, I'll get watch them on "American Greed".

They are squirming like sissies. The truth hurts. by summerheat February 26, 2011 10:52 AM

DNB,
Please read your friend's contract carefully and please do not take any legal advice from anyone here including myself. I am not a lawyer. One thing I do know for sure. If your friend receives his 20k back, His case is closed. There is no scam. Fraud, for what, you got your money back. COR is still trying to fund. Let me guess, then he is going to sue COR. Start some civil suit against them.
Summer Heat,
If you are a project Partner, you need to follow DNB's friend and ask for your money back. If you are that disgruntled and unhappy than do something about it, instead of coming here and claiming fraud,scam or that COR stole your pet gold fish. DNB's friend is and I give him/her alot of credit.I just hope they can live wiith that decision.

Guys,please stop with the nonsense that everyone here is the same person. It is getting old..I can claim the same but why bother. SH, you said yesterday that you have the freedom to express yourself, well so do others.....

Please show me some proof of a scam or fraud and maybe you can change my mind. The only thing you can say is that "COR has not funded" and I know differently, at least for one week. I have asked you to look at the post where I asked and answered all of those questions. please read again, because if you still do not get it, then you never will.....

Coming Soon, I will be a disgrunted partner sueing COR in fornt of a judge.. I you thought the first one was funny, yet true. Just wait..... by mdudd February 26, 2011 10:54 AM

Summer HEAT, you talk like Mr. ASS CLOWNS alter personality. Maybe it is you that has a copule of personalities??????
ASK FOR YOUR MONEY BACK, stop coming here and crying about it. It is not that hard to do!!!!!! by mdudd February 26, 2011 10:57 AM

By the way SCN22

You can get an EIN online in about 5 minutes.

You just go to IRS-EIN-Application.com
It is quite simple, maybe even you could handle that.

Summerheat
Watched American Greed the other night on CNBC
They had a report on a Ponzi Scheme in Florida...Sound familiar? The guys in jail, and it wasn't Bernie M. by DoNotBelieve February 26, 2011 10:59 AM

DNB

Listen fool, I just started posting a few days ago. You say stick to the facts. Okay, what are the facts? There are people stating they receive funding, you say, your "friend" hasn't so who am I to believe?

Let me tell what the facts are as I understand them to be in layman terms. You pay a company to do a service that you are not qualified to do yourself. They are unable to fulfill the obligation, you get your money back. Move on find somebody else to do the service.

Filing a claim with the FBI will do nothing unless a crime is committed. Has a crime been committed? No. Get your money back and the only other recourse, file a claim for a breach of contract, do you need the law enforcement agencies? No, just a good attorney.

Last fact, tell your friend he needs new friends. by MyBizness February 26, 2011 11:00 AM

DNB
I saw the episode. Similar scam.

by summerheat February 26, 2011 11:04 AM

I just can't resist:
Just wondering how everybody made out today with the FBI.
Here is how the conversation will go:
Person with the problem (pwtp): I would like to report a fraud or scam.
FBI: Okay please fill out all of the paperwork.
PWTP: I am done with the paperwork. Here is all of the info that I have.
FBI: Okay, please explain to me what the problem is and how you were a victim of fraud.
PWTP: I sent in 20k and have not received any money. I have emails and contracts and etc.
FBI: Okay. You sent your money in (Let’s say 12 months ago). Ok, you have a receipt. Good. Let me look at the contract. Wait, it says here that you can get your money back at any time. Why did you not do that?
PWTP: Because I am waiting for my funding. It has been around a year and still no money.
FBI: But you have email communications.
PWTP: Yes.
FBI: When was the last one dated?
PWTP: 2-22-2011.
FBI: Did you try to get your money out?
PWTP: No.
FBI: Why not?
PWTP: Because I was hoping they would fund.
FBI: Well you need to ask for your money back first. If you do not receive your money back then we can look into for you.
PWTP: But if I get my money back, then my project is cancelled.
FBI: Are you not here to report a scam?
PWTP: Well yes I am.
FBI: Than you need to ask for your money back, if you do not get it back, than we will get involved. If you are given your money back, than there is no scam. CASE CLOSED!!!!!!!!

by mdudd February 26, 2011 11:06 AM

Don't let someone who has lied to you repeatedly, posted under several different names, and tried to intimidate you on this site try to tell you what the authorities will say. The discussion went nothing like Dudd has indicated. There was clear interest. The return of the money after several years of lying about FACTS is clearly fraud. Cor has benefited from this fraud. There was clear interest with the group that I met with. It appears that several agencies, including the FTC and the SEC will be asked to participate.

Dudd, give it up, the game is over. You may not know it yet, but the process has begun. You claim that you are not Alberto, but it really doesn't matter as you'll end up in the same place that he will due to your fraudulant support of his scam.

For those on the fence, I wish you well. At some point, you'll come to realize that after a year of delays and lies, they won't come through. If I tell you that I will fund you in 60 to 90 days and I know that I won't have the ability to do so, I committed fraud. This is what Cor has done.

If Dudd's words rang true and Cor wasn't in it for the upfront money, why don't they return everyone's funds while they work to finish the process? Actions speak louder than words. Cor and their believers have nothing but words. Cor has not funded. Their "updates" aren't true. Their timeframes are never met. These are the FACTS.

In the next few days, Dudd or some other screen name version will announce that their funding has resumed although no one else will have received the first penny. They will expect everyone to believe their words are facts when clearly they aren't.

Dudd and the others, you just keep right on drinking the Kool-Aid. It's over and you just can't come to accept that fact.

As they say to the condemned, "may GOD have mercy on your soul".

by SeriouslyC'mon February 26, 2011 11:13 AM

So wait, you guys are saying there is a similar "scam" out there. Do you think the FBI is stupid? Remember, people have gone and opened a case, according to MR. ASS CLOWN. This would have been shut down and people would be in jail already. Why has that not happened? Again, please talk about COR and not some show that was on TV. Was COR mentioned on the TV show? I doubt it. Remember this is a blog about COR. by mdudd February 26, 2011 11:14 AM

DUDD
You are getting boring same old message!

MyBiz
You all seem very anxious for the people to ask for their money and not have them go to the authorities. Why is that? What are you afraid of?

Crime no crime? I think it would be best if we let the authorities determine that!

Fact is not one person on this blog, except the so called MDUDD, received any funding! That is fact...The banks were overwhelmed, Remember?
You have a short memory, it was only a week ago. So much for the 24 to 72 delay!!!!!!!!!!! by DoNotBelieve February 26, 2011 11:16 AM

I see you have a sense of humor as well as talent in script writing.

That's just the first scene. We will all get to see the entire episode on "American Greed". Don't worry. by summerheat February 26, 2011 11:18 AM

SeriouslyC'mon

Thank you for coming forward and telling us how your appointment with the authorities went. I am sure this will be beneficial to others who wish to take the same path. by DoNotBelieve February 26, 2011 11:20 AM

Seriously C'mon,
So than please enlighten us as to how it went down. Did you ask for your money back? Probably not!!!! The FTC and the SEC are already involved. The US Government and all of the agencies are already involved. I am not ALBERTO. You can believe what you want on that. Listen, now you want us to believe that you went to the authorities. Which one or were there multiple. Please stop with your nonsense. Wait, why are you here than. The authorities would have told you to keep your mouth shut since you could impead on their caase..... by mdudd February 26, 2011 11:24 AM

Seriously, after the big countdown is this all you have? I thought you already posted your last post on the 24th. You could have saved the countdown and did this Monday.

If you really want to help me, give me a funding source that can fund my project now. Otherwise, join SummerSweet and STFU!! Like I stated earlier, I'm too far from shore to swim back, I have to see this through.

Wait a minute, how I do know this is you Seriously, or is this DNB or SummerSweet.

by MyBizness February 26, 2011 11:26 AM

Just google Noble Group Holdings and look at the link that has the SEC filings. It gives you a list of the 8-K and SC-13 G/A files. You can find the information in there. It is also found on edgar-online.com.
Thanks again, by screenname22 February 26, 2011 11:27 AM

This forum is so toxic.

Dissident shareholders: STOP YOUR SCHEMING YOU BITTER FOOLS.

There is a clear divide between the believers and non-believers. There is a reasonable expectation that the project partners are feeling some frustration as a result of the delays. The unfounded claims of scam or scheme are. The believers are continuing have faith and prepare for the work. The doubters are making unfounded claims which are making them look terribly unprofessional and bitter.

READ MDUDD'S POST ABOUT GOING TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.
HE IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

by WakeUpNow February 26, 2011 11:34 AM

Unlike you all...We don't have multiple personalities!

I have noticed you don't really address any previuos questions or statements. You just continue with your agendas.

SC'mon
They are just goading you...Don't let them get to you.

by DoNotBelieve February 26, 2011 11:48 AM

WUPN

Read SeriouslyC'mon's message. He already went to the authorities. Didn't go down as DUDD predicted. by DoNotBelieve February 26, 2011 11:52 AM

@mdudd
You are stressing to hard. No one is giving a second thought to what these guys have to say. As far as I’m concern they are partners or non-license brokers that can’t control their frustrations and the name calling and insults is clear example of it. Now, I’m sure one will come out quickly to defend that as always, but folks have figured him out. The most eloquent non-believer has called the Fly an ignoramus in so many words. So, that goes to tell you how even that side of the fence feels about him.

No one is going to do anything and if they were, they would not be here arrogantly posting it. I’ve checked with the local federal agencies in Chicago and there has been NO and I repeat NO complaints and or charges filed against anyone at COR. If there was a complaint anywhere, it would have made its way to Illinois by now.

by Conway20 February 26, 2011 11:58 AM

I read his message. He absolutely will end up with the exact result that MDUDD predicted. There is due process, but there will be no investigation of fraud if he receives his money back. There is no criminal activity if he gets his money back. He is welcome to hire lawyers and fight the breach of contractual obligation. Otherwise the authorities are not going to launch some large scale investigation like you've imagined because someone is crying wolf.

What is largely unknown and remains a mystery is WHY people are so disgruntled. A lack of faith or character could be one reason, but more likely it is financially motivated and someone here isn't getting what they want. I am not talking about project partners, but people who were inside COR and now are not. That is the most probable scenario.

by WakeUpNow February 26, 2011 12:01 PM

Dudd:

You require proof when you are unwilling to provide any yourself. You've been asked to provide hard evidence of your "funding" from Cor and instead you change the subject or go on the attack. Talk about time to STFU!

I want you to know who started the process that brought you down. See you later!

DNB - One agency takes the information and forwards it to others. That's how the ball gets rolling. There will be more to come as it's not a one and done kind of process. It will take some time, but the payoff will come. Dudd's argument that I couldn't have gone to the feds because nobody is in jail today is idiotic. It will take months to years, but I think that I demonstrated an ability to be patient over the past 17 months.

by SeriouslyC'mon February 26, 2011 12:05 PM

Unfortunately SeriouslyC'mon has lost all respect for what he has once believed in.

He along with DoNotBelieve has been recognized to be part of Ranger 1’s group. I was told to me by my Ranger that both are part of a much smaller group of partners that communicates with each other daily, but these two have gone rogue. I contribute this information only because we need to expose and get rid of these two fence riders once and for all. by Conway20 February 26, 2011 12:41 PM

SeriouslyC'mon,

All you have demonstrated is you are waiting like the rest of us to receive your disbursement and in the meantime, you are killing time on this blog.

Calm down and continue to monitor like the rest of us. Believe me, many are watching this. Once funding is in, this blog is history. Until then, speak with common sense for goodness sakes man!!! At least act like you are a businessman. by MyBizness February 26, 2011 12:51 PM

@WakeUpNow
Very good observation. by Conway20 February 26, 2011 12:53 PM

Seriously, you are just as lost as DoNotBelieve and his friend!! Wake up man!!! by MyBizness February 26, 2011 12:55 PM

Where should I start? I was going to watch some BB but you guys are driving me nuts!

Conway: I HAVE NEVER BEEN PART OF ANY RANGER GROUP!!! GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL, IF YOU CAN!
I can't speak for SC'mon. You have no clue where he filed his complaint, he never said Chicago, and for that matter that information I would think would NOT be readily available to someone making a call on a fishing expedition!ONE MORE TIME...NEVER BEEN A PARTNER NEVER WILL BE!!!!!!!! As you all say, things like this take time. It isn't going to happen in a day...Get Real!

MyBiz: I guess this Blog will never end then, since there is no funding.

Funding will commence in about 48 more hours.... by cherub of hopes February 26, 2011 2:58 PM

cherub of hopes or Cherub of Hope. Seems like we have 2 of them..... by mdudd February 26, 2011 3:19 PM

WHAT? You guys messed up your many sreen names.
This Cherub must have spiked his Kool Aid, he needs to go back to his cloud! by DoNotBelieve February 26, 2011 3:58 PM

DoNotBelieve is a female and claims to be a male...NOT THAT IT MATTERS, but you whine and bitch like a teenage school girl...Notice how she alwyas has to say: I'm off to watch some football, or I'm off to play some golf, or I was going to watch some Basketball.......Real Guys don't say that "they are off to watch some BBall"....they just do it. So just be honest and admit that you're some disgruntled girlfriend who was dumped by the project partner because you whine too much and you're a NEGATIVE NINNY!!! So tired of your negative attitude from someone who has nothing invested!!!! by ElmosWorld February 26, 2011 5:02 PM

Elmo Muppet...You know where you can go and it begins with an H and ends with an L. Or is that to difficult for you muppet man?
I like sports what can I say. Just watched the first half of Florida/KY, happen to have a bet on FL.
I carry single digit handicap in golf. Love football!
I said that because I wanted to get away from the board and kept being delayed from all the comments.
With a muppet name like ElmosWorld, I think you are more intuned with your feminine side. You sound more Gay than anybody on here, except maybe The Cherubs!
Actually I didn't say BBall, I said, BB, I figured you idiots would know what that meant!
My investment is personal! by DoNotBelieve February 26, 2011 5:16 PM

Well all:

As I posted earlier it's just that easy to file you get a 2011-0000 file number and thats it.

I posted that our investigation with Cor was over and we did as SC stated there are many other agencies looking at Cor and the slags that are behind it.

I would like to hope that is some small way I was helpful in steering the ones that use files to step forward or at lease to convence them to do what they were thinking about anyway.

Don't beleive what these slags are posting they are on the run and Yes you have struck a fatal blow to Cor.

Oh DoNotBeleive

The Screen name DoorDie with the phony name and business also claimed to have been funded if you scroll up and look at that post.

All of the other screen names are as I have said from just two people.

Oh and the slags just can't get it right I said that they would be going to jail and that there scam was over also the the Feds and other agencies were already looking to a joint thing to bring these dirtbags down.

Well it's the weekend and NO MONEY Oh how convenient Funding will start up again according to some new screen name in the next 72 hr and the lie goes on to the end.

All these two sick dirtbags can do is lash out and try to pull your chain cause they know it's over and that everything they post no matter what screen name they go under will be taken as the joke that it is.

HEY SLAGS " END GAME " IT'S OVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF ANYONE ELES OUT THERE IS A VICTIM OF THIS SCAM PLEASE GO TO YOUR LOCAL OFFICE OF THE FBI AND REPORT THIS ALSO TO YOUR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AS WELL.

1. TAKE ALL OF THE E-MAILS AND CONTACT INFO YOU HAVE FOR COR AND THE SO CALLED RANGER YOU TALK WITH TO INCLUDE HIS OR HER NUMBER AS WELL.

2. TAKE YOUR CONTRACT WITH ALL SIGNITURES ATTECHED.

3. ANY BANKING INFORMATION YOU HAVE OTHER THEN THE INFORMATION IN THE CONTRACT.

4. IF YOU DID RECEIVE A REFUND TAKE THE WIRE TRANSFER INFORMATION AS WELL ALSO ALERT YOUR BANK TO BLOCK OR DENY ANY ATTEMPT FROM COR OR ANY OTHER UNKNOWN REQUEST OR UNKNOWN BILLING.

5. TALK WITH YOUR COR REP AND PLEAD WITH HIM OR HER TO GO THE THE FEDS AND LOCAL COPS AND CLEAR THERE NAME BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.

As I said I hope i was helpful in putting some of you out there on the right road.

We Texans have a heart as big as Texas is wide and have a mean strek twice as deep.

I really feel sorry for these sick dirtbags they need real help. But my heart goes out to all of the folks that have suffered and incured loss after loss waiting on a gravy train that was never to come in the firsr place.

by The fly February 26, 2011 5:42 PM

Hey there Slag

BOY you are sick hiding behind a childs play thing you are some sort of sick wow!!

WE all know that your all the same person so just drop the act it's over no matter what line or lie you post we know it's either or the other dirtbag.

You can't come up with proof and you can't lie any more so now you do what try to insult people here.

You talk about the good folks here like you know them or you fish for information hoping to strike a nerve to get your jollies off wow thats sick.

The fact is Slag they all know you and the other screen names you crawl or should I say ooz into. You and the other slag are a pair of lying cheating crooks that will get locked up for a very long time and thats a fact.

You want to know who i am well I will say howdy to you when the cuffs go on hows that and the coffee will be on me not the tax payers i will buy this with my own folding money.

I ASK YOU TWO AGAIN PLEASE SEEK OUT REAL MENTAL HELP AND STICK WITH IT EVEN WHILE YOUR IN JAIL YOU CAN GET HELP by The fly February 26, 2011 5:54 PM

Elmosworld, that's hilarious. Watch out he'll swear you are me and I am you and we are all one in the same..LOL! Come to think of it, you are so right, I don't usually announce when I'm going watch sports, I just do it. I think you have him, I mean her pegged. by MyBizness February 26, 2011 6:17 PM

FLY
What happened? I thought Texas would for sure take care of Colorado. by DoNotBelieve February 26, 2011 6:22 PM

MyBiz...You are right, Elmosworld is hilarious...He is a Joke! by DoNotBelieve February 26, 2011 6:26 PM

DoNotBelieve: Yes I saw that the Women Gators Basketball team covered. You're probably on some other blog BITCHING and WHINING about that too. DNB: "I have a friend that bet some money on the Gatorettes and she lost $20." You are such a negative, whining bitch. DOD had you pegged and we're all picking up on it now. Such a PESSIMIST..

by ElmosWorld February 26, 2011 6:32 PM

"Tick tock, you are all about to lose." 5, 4, 3, 2, 1,"It will take months to years, but...."

I guess this puts a damper on things for the naysayers. Especially what the Fly has been regurgitating. @the Fly - That means repeating. by Conway20 February 26, 2011 6:36 PM

MuppetMan

You probably don't know what it means when I said,"Florida Covered." That means I had 9 points and they only lost by 8 points, so I won the bet. Thought I would claify for the MuppetMan. Since he is more into kids than sports! by DoNotBelieve February 26, 2011 6:41 PM

Florida.... Hummmm by Conway20 February 26, 2011 6:43 PM

MuppetMan
Too bad for your friend she should have bought up the points maybe. Of course $20.00 is nothing, so she can't be too upset!
DOD so glad to see you returned to your old self!
Nasty as usual! by DoNotBelieve February 26, 2011 6:45 PM

DNB, I'm sorry I just hate negative people. I've been following this blog for some time now, and you are one NEGATIVE bitch...You must drive your husband/boyfriend crazy. Glad you won the bet, now go lend your friend some money and take your negativity elsewhere. Also invest in a book called "The Secret" by ElmosWorld February 26, 2011 6:47 PM

C20
Florida...Hmmmmmmmmmm
What is that mean, oh I get it because I took Florida, you think I live there. I bet with my head not my heart.
Florida was getting 8 1/2, I bet it up to 9...Winner!
Simple as that! by DoNotBelieve February 26, 2011 6:49 PM

I assume you are responding to my post. I will be whoever you want me to be. The question is, “Who are you?” If me being DOD makes you feel safe, than I will be him for you. by Conway20 February 26, 2011 6:51 PM

You love that word Bit##. You must be in bad shape..looking for some!
Oh, there is your feminine side again,"The Secret".

by DoNotBelieve February 26, 2011 6:53 PM

C20
No, I just figured you were all that dumb! by DoNotBelieve February 26, 2011 6:55 PM

.1
Start with "there," the easiest of the three words to learn. Use "there" when referring to a place or location. The place can be something physical ("My purse is over there on my desk.") or abstract ("There is a storm brewing.").

•2
Use "their" when indicating possession. "Their" is a possessive adjective that indicates that something belongs to "them." ("The students have finished their papers." "Their home was recently painted.")

•3
Remember that "they're" is a contraction of the words "they" and "are." It can only be used to indicate that the subjects (they) are taking action (are), both active and passive. ("They're going to Miami for spring break." "They're the nosiest neighbors on our block.").

by BostonBird33 February 26, 2011 6:58 PM

The insults keep coming. Wow! by Conway20 February 26, 2011 7:14 PM

Well y'all can't win em all but if I was gona put some money on it looks like i saved a few dollars.

Well if I got that last dope induced post by slag number 1 and by the way as I said these guys lie so much and move so fast they forget the lie they just told or forget what they just posted and now now now Oops the dirtbags slips and calls the other dirtbag moment the slag DOD Hummmmmmmmm gota slag.

Now you admit that the jig is up and you say it will take months or years to catch up with you low lifes dream on boy.

just about everything that has been posted here can be seen thurout the writting of our buddy berto and the other slag Art

GET SOME HELP SLAGS PLEASE GET SOME REAL MENTAL HELP LOOK AT YOURSELFS YOUR TRYING TO SCAM FOLKS HERE USEING DIFFERENT SCREEN NAMES AND WHAT HAPPENS YOU SLIP UP AND SCREW THAT UP IS THIS SOME SORT OF CRY FOR HELP ARE YOU ASKING TO BE PICKED UP ARE YOU BREAKING DOWN????????

Hummmmmmmmm HAVE I GOTTEN TO YOU SLAGS ARE YOU ALL RED IN THE FACE DID I BUST YOUR BUBBLE HAS YOUR CASH COW GONE DRY AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW BOOHOO BOOHOO NEED A TISSUE IT'S OKAY Y'ALL BE ALRIGHT

COME ON BRING IT!! YOUR MORE ENTERTAINING NOW THEN EVER I LIKE THIS. WHAT Y'ALL GOT TO SAY NOW SLAGS MORE FOLKS ARE GOING TO THE POL-LICE AND Y'ALL ALL MAD PLUS Y'ALL DON'T KNOW WHO TO TRUST WITH Y'ALLS UNPAID AND UNAWARE SO CALLED RANGERS ARE THINKING TWICE AND MAKING THAT CALL TO THE POL-LICE AND THE FEDS AS WELL

Hey DoNoBeleive

This is fun slag 1 and 2 are so worked up they can't keep there screen names right what a Hoot.

You can't make this stuff up Slag had one thing right I am sure they will make a movie out of this hot mess I wonder if they will get that sam elliott to play me (Hee)

Anyway as I said if it wasnt for the fact poeple have loss time, money and there project/business set backs this would be a gut buster by The fly February 26, 2011 7:17 PM

Sorry but the good ol boy in me just can't help it Sometimes it pops out like a rattlar in rat hole.

Come on out and play slags where y'all at it figure y'all have to pick on a lady however if I were to put some real money down I got my money on the little lady stomping y'all a new one.

PLEASE GET SOME REAL MENTAL HELP SLAGS REALLY NO JOKE THE BOTH OF YOU SEEK HELP THERE ARE 24/HR HELP LINES PPLUS Y'ALL CAN TURN YOURSELFS IN MAKE IT EASY ON YOURSELFS SAVE THE TAX PAYERS THE COST TO HAUL Y'ALLS SORRY HIDES IN by The fly February 26, 2011 7:36 PM

Can I please get someone to translate what this guy has posted? I cannot get through the first 3 or 4 lines without my tongue going numb.

Someone once said that he is camouflaging his true intelligence. If that is the case, how intelligent was he before. My goodness! by Conway20 February 26, 2011 7:37 PM

Okay

I will translate for you if it's took hard for you to read slag.

THE SCAM IS OVER PLEASE GET SOME REAL MENTAL HELP TURN YOURSELFS IN.

HAVE I UP SET YOU SLAGS DO YOU NEED A SHOULDER TO CRY ON HAVE YOU RETAINED YOUR LAWYER YET.

CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THIS SLAG OR IS THIS TOO HARD FOR YOU TOO .JUST PUT DOWN THE DOPE AND TAKE A DEEP BREATH OPEN THE WINDOW CLEAR THE AIR AND R E A D

You ask about my intelligence well I'm smart enough to know you and the other slag are going to jail by The fly February 26, 2011 7:47 PM

It never fails you slags are about the most entertaining Dirtbag crooks I have encounter in some time.

As on cue you pop up in yet another screen name and make comment and then ooz back into your hole and like clock work you ooz back using another screen name to back up the one you just posted your standard line of BS WOW.

I like you slags not for what you've done but for the entertainment it does take the edge off a hard and tense day to read the on going tangle of new and old lies and screen names all from the demented minds of just the two of you.

PLEASE GET SOME REAL MENTAL HELP I BEG YOU TOO !!! PICK UP THE PHONE THERE ARE 24/HR HELP LINES AND WHILE YOU HAVE THE PHONE IN YOUR HAND DO THE RIGHT THING AND TURN YOURSELFS IN.

by The fly February 26, 2011 7:58 PM

Ok, I got some of it.

Why do you insist everyone that speaks positive has to be Alberto or Art?

It’s clear that the only one that is UPSET (one word) is you. That's why you respond repeatly with insults.

I'm sorry that SeriouslyC’mon call did not go as you expected. Maybe you can put him intouch with your contact person. You know, intake agent NOBODY. by Conway20 February 26, 2011 8:06 PM

Hey Slags

Question

How many prepaid phones have y'all gone thur in the pass month and how many different wifi spots have y'all been switching

PUERTO RICO

I bet y'all use to sleep real good at night basking in the vast millions y'all stole spending it at will enjoying the good life posing as Big shots.

Now y'all go to bed wondering y'all look out the window before you go out double check every chey that looks like a cop car.

I bet y'all got a short temper at home as well hummmmm

PLEASE BOYS GET SOME REAL MENTAL HELP AND TURN YOURSELFS IN IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE IT'S ALL OVER WHY WAIT MORE AND MORE FOLKS ARE GOING TO THE FEDS AND LOCAL COPS. PLEASE GET SOME HELP CALL THE 24/HR HELP LINE by The fly February 26, 2011 8:11 PM

I'm sorry.... It's clear that there(abstract) is only one person that is UPSET.... by Conway20 February 26, 2011 8:15 PM

His interview went very well and so did the others and if you read wait let me put it in big words so you can follow ( HIS INTERVIEW WHEN JUST AS I SAID IT WOULD AND YOU KNOW WHAT HE SPOKE WITH A RESL PERSON FACE TO FACE NOT SOME VOICE ON THE PHONE OR SOME ONE WAY E-MAIL OR FULL VOICE MESSAGE)

Now what have you to bring to the table other then another plate full of lies.

What do you or any of your other user name have but BS and insults.

Y'all are funny thats a fact.

Even after someone post that they filed you try to tell them and all here that they didnt and the information that was given to them was a lie or nothing.

PLEASE GET SOME REAL MENTAL HELP PLEASE I BEG YOU AND THE OTHER SLAG TO SEEK OUT HELP MENTAL AND MEDICAL HELP. TURN YOURSELFS IN PLEASE MAKE IT AT LEASE A BIT EASIER ON YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES by The fly February 26, 2011 8:19 PM

C20
Seriouslyc'mon's call went better than you all expected. He is on the right track and that means down the road an end to you at COR!
By the way bet tonight Utah Jazz & Duquesne.Hmmmmmm
Now where do I live? Bye! by DoNotBelieve February 26, 2011 8:23 PM

DoNotBeleive

We all know that the interview went well it is the desperate attempt of the two slags here to discredit the event for the non posters here that are just looking in.

As I said the filing of yet another victim just brings the end closer and the more attention to Cor and it's dealing most of there Bank accounts have been closed and I would like to see how they are going to honor the demands for refunds. The IRS Will want there cut from Cor holding these funds without reporting just to say one.

Oh I'll take the jazz

DNB

We all know these guys are going down and so do they it is starting to sink in. But I ask you and those others out there that are looking for nothing but the truth and to end this nightmare to join me in each of you post to ask for the two slags to seek help and to turnthemselfs in maybe if we all add that at the end of our post at lease one of them just might

PLEASE SLAGS SEEK REAL MENTAL HELP TURN YOURSELFS IN MAKE IT EASY ON YOUR FAMILIES AND THE TAX PAYERS. by The fly February 26, 2011 8:39 PM

It seems that the two slags are also texting one another and on the phone while posting here. Then switch screen names when either caught in too many lies or trying to throw folks off the trail.

But I am sure y'all knew that. March is a few days away and what don't the victims have or will ever get.

PLEASE I ASK YOU BOTH TO SEEK MENTAL HELP AND TO TURN YOURSELFS IN GUYS MAKE IT EASIER ON YOUR FAMIES AND THE TAX PAYERS by The fly February 26, 2011 9:05 PM

Know that is funny. You are giving this too much thought. by Conway20 February 26, 2011 9:09 PM

Mr.ass clown,
I am going to open a claim on Monday.so all I have to do is contact the FBI and give them the file number 2011-0000. Is that correct? They will know you,do I ask for the fly? Please in English explain. by mdudd February 26, 2011 9:16 PM

Mr.ass clown,
I told you this along time ago, your dad should have shot his load in the sink and saved us all from your presence!!!! by mdudd February 26, 2011 9:20 PM

@mdudd
Good evening Sir,

If you got it from here, it’s movie night down in the theater room. We are watching the Karate Kid. It was 3 to 2. The boys won. by Conway20 February 26, 2011 9:27 PM

Not quit slag

the 2011 is the begining of the file the back set of numbers are different as you know dirtbag I ncan't and wouldnt discloce a on going file number.

But I do like your style it that all you got slag y'all cant come up with anything better then that.

I'm just saying Big master theif like yourself sould have a better line that that one.

You know whats even funnier you son!!! Your fible attempt to play this off and you are not doing such a good job of it as your other screen name dudd as you are called.

Speed kills peaches put that dope down and come up for some air.

PLEASE SEEK HELP THIS IS FOR BOTH OF YOU SLAGS PLEASE SEEK REAL MENTAL AND MEDIACL HELP THINK OF WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND TURN YOURSELFS IN THINK OF THE PAIN YOU WILL BE SAVING YOUR LOVED ONES by The fly February 26, 2011 9:34 PM

TICK TOCK TICK TOCK TICK TOCK UNTIL THE SLAGS ARE IN JAIL OR THE MENTAL SECTION OF THE PRISON

PLEASE GET SOME HELP SLAGS SEEK MENTAL AND MEDIACL HELP TURN YOURSELFS IN AND MAKE IT EASIER ON YOUR FAMILIES PLEASE I URGE YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING by The fly February 26, 2011 9:42 PM

AND YEA I MENT THE TYPOS SLAGS (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA)

GET SOME REAL HELP SLAGS PLEASE TURN YOURSELFS IN THINK OF THE GREIF YOU BOTH WILL SAVE YOUR FAMILIES AND THE MONEY YOU WILL SAVE THE TAX PAYERS by The fly February 26, 2011 9:59 PM

Cherub of hopes,
U need to learn how to count 48-7=41. But good try joker!!!!!! by mdudd February 26, 2011 10:00 PM

Dudd and Conway hope that by telling lies about me that I'll stop telling the truth about them and Cor.

by SeriouslyC'mon February 26, 2011 10:25 PM

SC,
How did you make out with getting your 20k back??? by mdudd February 26, 2011 10:29 PM

SC,
Guess you never asked??? by mdudd February 26, 2011 10:30 PM

Dudd, C20

You can't stand the fact that SeriouslyC'mon and others are starting the take you all down, by filing with the authorities. You just didn't think anyone would do it...Well think again!

Your Cherub names are something else, they can't even subtract 48-7. You better put those names on the bench for a while and put the starters back in! by DoNotBelieve February 26, 2011 10:47 PM

DNB,
I have no problem with what SC has done. I wish him the best. Too bad I do not believe him...
SC is cherub in case you are wondering.... by mdudd February 26, 2011 10:55 PM

Good Morning...30 hours left. by cherub of hopes February 27, 2011 9:11 AM

@mdudd
Cherub of Hopes is one of the good guys. by Conway20 February 27, 2011 9:38 AM

My conversation with the authorites did not go the way that Muds's script suggests.

Fraud has been committed, with or without the refunds, when the pattern is well established of failure to honor the contracts. Civil court filings ends up adding to that pattern. When a certain volume of 'failure to honor the contract' compliants start to add up, the various Federal agencies become forced to take action to respond to the complaints. This process is done to ensure the stability and confidence in the stock market trading, bank ant-trust laws, and the overall economy.

This statement will now be followed by Mr. Mudd's commentary, as is the usual custom of this imformed blog. by Waitedtoolong February 27, 2011 9:46 AM

Waitedtoolong

According to SeriouslyC'mon, his appointment with the authorities did not go the way of DUDD's script either.
It is ok nobody believes DUDD anymore, and all his other screen names, which he can't even keep straight as evidenced by the above message correction concerning one of the Cherub's. They don't even know who they are anymore!

My friend will be adding to the volume of complaints also. He was told "Failure to honor the cotract", as you mentioned, was enough to get it started. by DoNotBelieve February 27, 2011 10:44 AM

We the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, with so little, for so long, we are now qualified to do anything, with nothing.

Waitedtoolong, you didn't wait long enough. Funding has started, who cares. Complaints aren't difficult when you have the resources to address them. DNB, I will continue to pray for you and your friend.

I have no more time for blogging. This is my last post, its time to start the good work with my project. Good luck to all the partners in your endeavors. I'm sure we will meet someday. Until then, God bless you, keep you and I leave you with this.

Trust in the Lord with all your heart; do not depend on your own understanding. Seek his will in all you do, and he will direct your paths. Proverbs 3:5-6

MyBizness signing off!! by MyBizness February 27, 2011 11:17 AM

@MyBizness
Unfortunately we are not dealing with people of unwavering faith. To reach most agnostics you must communicate on their level of understanding.

@mdudd
No need to comment about what Waitedtoolong posted.

In my search for counteractive action, I found that there were two recourses I could have taken.

The only other alternative was to have my 20 thousand refunded. Instead, I began what I should have months prior. I decided to invest my resources in a proper due diligence.

Has anyone after conducting a preliminary understanding with COR, completed a detailed due diligence other than what you find online prior to the signing of a binding contract? If you had, just maybe you would be standing with the believers instead of sitting on the fence. by Conway20 February 27, 2011 11:39 AM

Can anybody explain to me, why people get very "religous" when they know their "end" is near?

by summerheat February 27, 2011 12:04 PM

@summerheat
Give you life to Christ and you will know why. by Conway20 February 27, 2011 12:06 PM

wow. Did'nt call any names. Are we having some guilty consciences here?

by summerheat February 27, 2011 12:09 PM

SHeat
It is just like the people who go to prison...They always find GOD.

DUDD
Calling people on this blog Agnostics because they don't believe in high and mighty COR. Is ridiculous, even for you.
Fortunately our Faith is in the right place. by DoNotBelieve February 27, 2011 12:12 PM

Father God, thank You for loving summerheat and calling him Your own. I pray that he choose to receive Your Word which is life, health and strength for him. Fill him with Your peace and wisdom. I pray that he set his thoughts on You. In Jesus’ Name. Amen. by Conway20 February 27, 2011 12:12 PM

ok I get it. Not all your multiple personalities have consciences by summerheat February 27, 2011 12:13 PM

Between Conway and the Cherubs...ToooooooooooooooMuch!!!!

You know what C20, I went to church already today! by DoNotBelieve February 27, 2011 12:15 PM

Father God, open the eyes of DoNotBelieve heart. Help him to see the grand stands of heaven cheering him on. Thank You for instilling confidence, power and grace in him so that he can run his race and finish strong! In Jesus’ Name. Amen. by Conway20 February 27, 2011 12:15 PM

So Conway...You are a preacher now?
Get Real! by DoNotBelieve February 27, 2011 12:16 PM

@Conway20
I dont need prayer. You need to pray that COR has the abiltiy to return the multi deposits it has fraudulently taken in from it's victims. Or is it that they don't have a prayer, since the money is already spent? by summerheat February 27, 2011 12:19 PM

Conway
FYI
By the way if you are a Born again Christian...They don't use the word GOD, They use Christ!
Please don't make any prayers in my name, don't want them coming from you! by DoNotBelieve February 27, 2011 12:21 PM

The nature of man is wholly infected with this enmity against God.

I'm just a believer. I pray for all of us each and everyday. by Conway20 February 27, 2011 12:23 PM

@DoNotBelieve
It's clear you have many demons you are dealing with. by Conway20 February 27, 2011 12:25 PM

@Conway20
Since we on the subject you need to back and study Matthew 7:21. I think it go sumptin lika this:

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven"

by summerheat February 27, 2011 12:36 PM

Conway
Enough with the Religion...It is only to distract everyone from the real issues.
BTW
I have no demons, I am just fine thank you...Enough already!
You better be praying for yourself, you are going to need it. Leave me out of it. by DoNotBelieve February 27, 2011 12:42 PM

@summerheat
Your point for that verse.

@DoNotBelieve
There is never enough of the Word. Don't be afraid of it, embrace it. by Conway20 February 27, 2011 1:04 PM

I read it all. The Word is a distraction he said. by Conway20 February 27, 2011 1:06 PM

hey y'all

I just got in from a great mid morning ride there is nothing quite like riding thur gods country to clear the head and soul first thing in the morning.

I see y'all have been busy here last night I signed off after the last plead for the slags to get help but I did find one post from one of the slags posting under mybiz.

I thought Cor was in a holding pattern and that funding was halted only the two slags here claim to have been funded then why would this screen name claim that funded has started if it stoped????We the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, with so little, for so long, we are now qualified to do anything, with nothing.

Waitedtoolong, you didn't wait long enough. Funding has started, who cares. Complaints aren't difficult when you have the resources to address them. DNB, I will continue to pray for you and your friend.

I have no more time for blogging. This is my last post, its time to start the good work with my project. Good luck to all the partners in your endeavors. I'm sure we will meet someday. Until then, God bless you, keep you and I leave you with this.

Trust in the Lord with all your heart; do not depend on your own understanding. Seek his will in all you do, and he will direct your paths. Proverbs 3:5-6

MyBizness signing off!!
by MyBizness February 27, 2011 11:17 AM

Kinda makes ya say Hummmmmmmmmmmm don't it

PLEASE GUYS GET THE HELP YOU NEED!!!!!!

by The fly February 27, 2011 2:06 PM

So DoNotBeleive and CS

How are things with the two of you and what new and depressing things have you learned about Cor.

I was very pleased that you folks have filed or are about to file and as I suggested it would be helpful if you could plead with the so called Ranger to turn him or her selfs in to clear there names if they were as in the dark about this scam as you all were and are. I'm here for any help you good folk may need I can guide y'all in the right direction

The Fly by The fly February 27, 2011 4:19 PM

A little light reading for a Sunday after noon....

Judge walks in the room and is seated.
Judge asks for the person with the problem (PWTP) to come and take the stand.

PWTP sits.
Judge asks: Please state your name.
PWTP: MY Name is ________
Judge: please state your case.
PWTP: I am here because the group known as COR has scammed and performed an act of fraud towards me.
Judge: Please explain.
PWTP: I had invested my 20k with COR in hopes that they would fund my project. I submitted my business plan. It was accepted. We signed contracts and sent in the 20k.
Judge: Was this a surprise to you that COR requested 20k.
PWTP: No. I was told this upfront by a broker and COR’s ranger.
Judge: OK than what happened.
PWTP: I waited for 14 months and no funding.
Judge: You waited how long?
PWTP: 14 months
Judge: Thank you.
Judge: Why did you not ask for your money back? Did you seek any other funding sources? Did you look into any of the delays that were told to you?
PWTP: COR kept in contact via email and I made an occasional phone call to my ranger. So I figured everything was ok. No your honor, I just sat around and waited. No your honor I did not.
Judge: When was the last email sent to you? How long did COR promise you for your funds?
PWTP: Last email was 2-21-2011. Your honor 60-90 days. I have a contract.
Judge: Please let me see it.
Judge: How come you never asked for your money back?
PWTP: Because COR was moving forward.
Judge: It states here, that your money is returned upon a written request. Money will be sent back to after 30 days of this request. Why did you not state that?
Judge: Did you ever ask for your money back?
PWTP: Your honor, I thought it was irrelevant.
PWTP: No. your honor.
Judge: Yet you are here claiming COR Scammed you out of money. You have a civil claim for 100million dollars.
Judge: You are claiming that COR scammed you out of your 20k and COR owes you 100 million in damages.
PWTP: That is correct.
Judge: you could have requested your money back at any time. Why did you not?
PWTP: I felt COR was going to fund. Then I discovered this blog where people were talking about a COR scamming individuals.
Judge: a blog?
PWTP: Yes your honor. A blog. You know, were anonymous people post their thoughts and beliefs.
Defense Lawyer (DL): Yes your honor. We have a transcript for you.
Judge: may I see it.
Judge: You are kidding me. This is why you are here. Because of this gibberish.
PWTP: if you notice a statement from “the fly” where he states there are over 320 million in civil suits. That is why I came to the court.
Judge: So you were looking for your piece of this?
PWTP: yes in a way.
Judge: So let’s get the facts straight. You NEVER asked for your money back. You waited for over 14 months. Did you ever appear on this Blog?
PWTP: no your honor. I stood in the back ground and just read what was happening.
Judge: I would like to take a recess for 5 minutes to review this Blog….
5 minutes later. The judge re-enters the room.
Judge: I looked over this blog. I cannot believe you never asked for your money back.
PWTP: I felt I would not get my money returned. Plus if I did get my money back, my project would be cancelled.
DL: You honor, I have receipts from individuals who have asked for a return of funds and COR refunded them.
Judge: Please let me see.
Judge: Clearly this is a case of a disgruntled project partner, who feels he is owed something, yet he did not follow up.
PWTP: Your honor, I do not understand.
Judge: You never asked for your money back after the 90 day period. You waited for and year and still never asked for your money. COR is still working on funding. There are updates, last one dating 2-21-2011. Yet you stand here and try to swindle this group out of 100 million dollars. Why not wait for a little while longer? Why have you not done any research? Why are you listening to people on a blog? Clearly you are incapable of fulfilling your end of the project, if you cannot do simple little things.
PWTP: I am fed up. I cannot take it no more.
Judge: Then you should have asked for your money back. If you were not given the money back after the 30 day period, as per your contract, then you would have a case and you should have done a little research into the information that was past on to you by your ranger.Maybe than you could have a better understanding as to what was going on. But as it stands, you chose not to do any of this and you have no case. Your best argument comes from an anonymous blogger who was fed corn flakes with lead paint chips when he was a child.

CASE DISSMISSED. BY THE WAY, YOU WILL NEED TO PAY FOR COURT COSTS. Please get an arrest warrant for “the fly”. I “do not believe” they let this person walk around. “Seriously C’mon” he needs to be in a rubber room. Maybe the “Summer Heat” got to him.

by mdudd February 27, 2011 5:30 PM

Enjoy the day.... by mdudd February 27, 2011 5:31 PM

@conway 20
Cherub of Hope is on our side.
cherub of hopes, not sure..He could be or he could be somebody playing a game.

MyBiz,
Take care and good luck. May health and happiness always surround you...May be will will meet someday. I look forward to it.... by mdudd February 27, 2011 5:41 PM

DUDD

Don't you get the fact that SeriouslyC'mon and Waitedtoolong have already begun the process...And it did not go according to your script. They already told us all that. Why do you keep wasting all your time for all those words which mean nothing!

Who is Mr Biz going to be now? by DoNotBelieve February 27, 2011 7:16 PM

@DNB,
Agnostics, which is the best word that you come up with.
As a matter of fact, there are alot more people who believe in COR than do not. You are frustrated because you cannot get anyone else to believe like you do. You got mad at Wake Up Now for no reason. All the man did was not agree with you and you jumped down his throat. You better go and create more user names for this site to make it even. Fact of the matter is that it has been the same 4 or 5 of you continually crying. Go to the authorities, like Mr. Ass Clown said; tell them all about this. I do not care. See someone gave me, as well as others, the right to think and feel, to make educated and factual decisions. Which I have done and for some reason this bothers you. As a matter of fact, I made a 400% profit on my money. Talk about my money working for me.... Just wish it was more. But that will come.... See someone said in a previous post, instead of going to the authorities, they went and found out all of the information they could on how and what COR is doing. That’s what you should do. Maybe than, you will uncover the truth you are so desperately looking for...And you can do this right from Google. Just have to know what you are looking for. Ask screen22, he is on the right track... I really do not want to get into a religious discussion, but I think Gambling is against a Born Again Christian beliefs.
So now that everyone is or has gone to the authorities, you guys should all converse, no sense in opening multiple case numbers and wasting all of that paper. Start a new blog. Get all of your facts straight. But please move on. I am not saying or telling anyone not to blog here. Just stop crying and whining about COR. You have made your decision. Live with it..

@Mr,ASS CLOWN,
SC not CS, for Seriously C’mon. Gee let me listen to what you have to say. You cannot even get two letters correct. Maybe the judge was right; you did eat way to many lead paint chips.... That’s right, your investigation has closed. But yet you come here constantly. Another Good Samaritan.

@Waitingfortoolong,
Why are you still here? You got a legitimate source of funding. Move forward, not back. Focus on your project. Not on COR. Be happy, others were not so lucky, ask DNB. I wish you nothing but great things with your project. You just need to let it go and it will make you a better person.

Guys, there is no one new to this. According to Mr. ASS CLOWN, money intake stopped in December. There is no one else to warn off from COR.

by mdudd February 27, 2011 7:17 PM

Conway20 must be in his theater room watching the Ocars!
Last night Karate Kid, tonight the Oscars! by DoNotBelieve February 27, 2011 7:20 PM

@DNB,
Do you not get the fact that I think they are full of Sh!t...... by mdudd February 27, 2011 7:20 PM

DUDD
You make no sense in your message, rattle time. I answered the Agnostic message. I am not a Born Again Christian, Catholic all my life. How long ago was the comment from WakeUpNow, don't even remember it. We do not have duplicate screen names like you all do.
I know about LaBon Table Foods, Noble Holdings, Residential Or Commerical Developement group Etc. I also know you can get EIN's in 5 minutes on the internet...Big deal, so what?
You just want to get rid of everybody, it is not that simple!

I would say investing in COR is gambling on a different scale. You take a sport, you win, you loose, you get paid, you pay. Not so with COR, you pay and get nothing in return! by DoNotBelieve February 27, 2011 7:31 PM

Now, Now, Conway20 is suppose to be one of you guys...He sure isn't on our side.
Turning on a believer like that. What are they going to think. Thought you had his back! by DoNotBelieve February 27, 2011 7:32 PM

Sorry, My bad. I told you i do not like talking religion...

Comment from wake up now was 2 days ago..
How am i turning on Conway20??? Please enlighten me... by mdudd February 27, 2011 7:58 PM

@DoNotBelieve
Mdudd has not turned on anyone. You need to get a twitter page or Facebook. This is not a social network. Go spend time with that beautiful wife you claim to have. Where is she when you are on this blog 24/7? I’m sure she has brought this to your attention many times. Get off the computer and go try to be a man with your family. by Conway20 February 27, 2011 8:16 PM

@Mdudd

Thank you for imparting some knowledge. There is no defying the logic of legal matters. There is absolutely no case for anyone who has not requested their money back. The process will be disruptive to COR. Fear mongering and bullshit is all I've seen from the doubters here. At least the believers seem to be men of faith and are moving forward in doing whatever they can in their control. Leave the rest to God. Too many chicken littles on this site. THE SKY IS FALLING!

by WakeUpNow February 27, 2011 10:28 PM

Now here is a bit of information you can find on the internet.....

Applications for a new EIN and CUSIP# were completed by Noble Group Holdings, Inc. A five week long transparent investigation of the legitimate Board of Directors was conducted and determined by the (SEC) Securities and Exchange Commission's Legal Compliance Division, headed by Mr Bill Barton, ESq recognizing Mary S Bonhage, Carolyn S Berry, the late William B Guest, Alberto B Colon and Artemio Rivera as the legal Board of Directors with the authority cleared to access the EDGAR system and proceed with the filings on behalf of Noble Group Holdings, Inc.

Seems they would have found out something if Mr. Colon was in anyway fashion of form out of line in business dealings.

I try only to present verifiable facts. This information can be found on the pr-inside.com web site.

I still believe in the funding. Now that is two verifiable bits of information for the positive side.

Sorry I missed you MR. Fly. The weather was great today in Austin. OH, by the way land around the new Formula One racetrack will be a good investment at least that is what I am thinking.
Thanks, by screenname22 February 27, 2011 10:55 PM

@screenname22
I bet a Hershey’s with Almonds that the non-believers will not comprehend what that means. by Conway20 February 27, 2011 11:20 PM

DNB has nothing better to do than be Miss. negative on this blog. She is so negative that she "DOES NOT BELIEVE" After all that is her screen name. No wonder she is alone and pretends to watch sports. Keep the facts coming--the facts are all we really care about on this blog. COR will fund---DO BELIEVE!!!! by ElmosWorld February 28, 2011 8:31 AM

Good Morning...Get ready for a wonderful week... by cherub of hopes February 28, 2011 9:35 AM

Elmo
If facts are all you care about...Then why did you give such dribble in your last message? You are an idiot! by DoNotBelieve February 28, 2011 10:10 AM

Official sits down with the victim and has conversation about Cor and the entire process. When viewed in it's totality, there is evidence of fraudulant activity. Prosecutor contacts the Rangers and Partners to investigate accusations of fraud. The Prosecutor offers one project partner or ranger immunity for their willingness to cooperate in the investigation and prosecution of Cor and the other rangers and partners. The case proceeds against the lower level people first. Charges include wire and mail fraud as well as securities fraud. The issue that gets eveyone is the inability to provide any evidence of Cor's ability to have ever funded.

Questions may include: Mr. Partner/Ranger, did you ever see this evidence before you vouched for Cor on the Internet and to your customer? Did it make sense that a real company would ever communicate so poorly? Was it reasonable to expect such a high return for so little an investment? Did others raise questions that you ignored? How can you explain the discrepancy between the funding dates and the time that elapsed before Cor fell apart? Did you know that Cor was funding through a company that was regulated by the Securities and Exchange Commission? Were you licensed to raise funds for such an organization?

Look carefully at these questions and try to imagine how you will answer them in light of your support here and to others. Remember, the authorities will have the information from all of the damaged partners as well as the inside scoop from the person they granted immunity to.

Once they have your butt on the hook, they will proceed in their case against Alberto for the scheme and against Art for his attempts as an "attorney" to scare people away from moving claims forward.

Raising and holding money based on fraudulant representations and means is fraud. Any short-term benefit will be offset by the requirement to pay attorney fees and to return the money to the damaged parties.

Deep down, you know that you don't believe either.

by SeriouslyC'mon February 28, 2011 4:22 PM

SC'mon
Thanks for the insight into the procedure.
My friend is contacting authorities today to set up a meeting. I have not talked with him yet so I don't know what transpired. I know he was getting all of his paperwork in order over the weekend.
I don't believe he has had any communication from any COR people since last week, when they once again delayed funding with the overwhelmed bank excuse. I will have to ask him. by DoNotBelieve February 28, 2011 5:12 PM

Guys,

Just ask for your money back. It adds to a stronger case.. Come out of the closet. Man up....and request, no demand for your money back...If you do not get it, then by all means go after COR. by mdudd February 28, 2011 5:42 PM

Dudd:

If you are so sure and if you have already received funds from Cor (unable to prove), why do you keep coming on here to defend them? Why don't you encourage them to man up? I would imagine that in a day or two you will come on here and announce that they have resumed funding. Of course, you will have recieved more funding before anyone else does or some new screen name will pop up claiming funding that cannot be proven.

Cherub's 30 hour timeframe expired. Cor's 24 to 72 hour timeframe has come and gone, just like the dozens of other timeframes published. The difference between Cor and me is that I did what I said that I would when I said that I was going to do it.

Dudd, I asked before why Cor doesn't man up and return everyone's money while they work through their delay. You said yourself that the upfront money wasn't important to the process. You guys don't have any facts other than "Cor will fund". That's not a fact and in light of all of their missed performance, a reasonable person would reach this decision. At the end of the day, that is what the judge will look at!

Real people have been hurt by Cor's misrepresentations. Getting the initial deposit back is just the start. Cor had illegal use of the money for quite some time since they gathered it under false means. Their perpetual updates of imminent funding strung people along to the point where they are too desperate to speak up and financially ruined.

Even if some miracle should happen and Cor found a way to fund a portion of what they have commited, they will be too tied up in litigation and investigations for years to come to be an effective partner. They have no one but themselves and their false supporters to blame.

If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. The solution was funding and it didn't happen.
Game over.

by SeriouslyC'mon February 28, 2011 7:01 PM

DUDD
You are so anixous for everyone to ask for their money back, like that is the solution. It is not. And as SC'mon has put it people have been harmed and defrauded, and it simple "They aren't going to take anymore."
Nice try, it isn't going to work. You are going DOWN!
I can't wait to watch! by DoNotBelieve February 28, 2011 7:30 PM

Cherub is still on his cloud trying to subtract hours...Don't disturb him, it is hard enough for him! by DoNotBelieve February 28, 2011 7:32 PM

@DoNotBelieve
What part of any post that you don't understand. You are not part of this. Let those that have money on the table discuss their common business. Take your personal issue up with your friend. Quit dipping in grown men business. by Conway20 February 28, 2011 7:35 PM

DNB,
Yes requesting your money back is your first step. If you get it back, then you or your friend should be happy. Remember MR. ASS CLOWN said, there is no money....As for "They are not going to take it anymore" ,who are you now,Dee Snyder. It is almost like you are the ring leader.

SC,
Actually, there are plenty of facts. You just chose to ignore them. You are letting yourself be blinded by the delays. You are getting frustrated and are rightfully so very unhappy. You have lost your faith and belief. That is your decision. By the way, what would my proof of founding prove to you. It would just get you angry, that how come I got the intial funding (and it did stop) and you did not recieve your's.... That is why I do not post it. I have nothing to show DNB. In my eyes he is "nothing".....Did not DOD ask you to email him and he would show you his proof? Why did you not take him up on his offer. You could have saved yourself alot of grief... by mdudd February 28, 2011 8:00 PM

SC I am going to address the questions you asked me,

"If you are so sure and if you have already received funds from Cor (unable to prove), why do you keep coming on here to defend them? Why don't you encourage them to man up? I would imagine that in a day or two you will come on here and announce that they have resumed funding. Of course, you will have recieved more funding before anyone else does or some new screen name will pop up claiming funding that cannot be proven."

My answer is simple. I do not have the power to tell COR what to do. I am a project partner just like yourself. I have no idea when funding is to resume. I wish it was yesterday....No I have not received any more funding and unfortunatly I only have one screen name. Sorry to disappoint...

"Dudd, I asked before why Cor doesn't man up and return everyone's money while they work through their delay. You said yourself that the upfront money wasn't important to the process. You guys don't have any facts other than "Cor will fund". That's not a fact and in light of all of their missed performance, a reasonable person would reach this decision. At the end of the day, that is what the judge will look at!"

Remember what the intial moeny was for, to setup your company, finance company etc.. No you are right, the upfront money is not important any more. The only problem with returning it, that I can see, it would just lead to another delay and we all know there has been enough of them...... by mdudd February 28, 2011 8:10 PM

Conway
You have no right to tell anybody what they can and cannot do. Or what they can and can not say. USA, freedom of speech remember? After all you are always spouting off some sort of BS!
As you so many times put it STFU!!
Go count your funded money...Oh that's right I forgot you don't have any! by DoNotBelieve February 28, 2011 10:21 PM

DUDD
BACK AT YOU!
YOU AREN'T WORTH THE WORDS! by DoNotBelieve February 28, 2011 10:28 PM

Funding will commence tomorrow.... by cherub of hopes February 28, 2011 11:10 PM

Is this the funding that you posted would begin in 30 hours a couple of days ago? Maybe it's the funding that started for just one guy several weeks ago before being halted.

@DoNotBelieve
First of all, I do not use profanity. There are enough words in the English language to insult you with than profanity acronyms. So, wrong person.

You seem so angry. We all know who you are so give it up and shut up.

I never received funding yet, but I will soon. So again, wrong person. Keep up with the blog. by Conway20 March 1, 2011 6:47 AM

Good Morning... by cherub of hopes March 1, 2011 6:56 AM

Good Morning cherub of hopes.

@ SeriouslyC’mon
Do you still consider yourself as a Project Partner? If not, will you be requesting a return of your $20k fee? If not, will you accept any disbursement that COR may give to you towards your once anticipated funding? As a partner of COR I’m trying to get an understanding on how most partners are feeling. These are frustrating times and we must embrace one another. by Conway20 March 1, 2011 6:59 AM

C20
Maybe my bad on the wording. It is one of the other numerous screen names you all use. I think it was MrBiz who is suppose to be gone now?!
You don't know who I am and I am not going to shut up. Just a thorn in your side until some resolution to this situation is reached, one way or the other.

Cherub
What day is this now? 2 days after the 30 hours and 2years?

Sc'mon
Sounds like Conway20 is trying to buy you off. by DoNotBelieve March 1, 2011 9:04 AM

Yes DNB.... but much longer for you...technicalities, technicalities... funding will commence. by cherub of hopes March 1, 2011 11:14 AM

Technicalities, technicalities...
Is that the new excuse buzz word? by DoNotBelieve March 1, 2011 12:34 PM

DNB,
This was you correct?

This just in...Right on Q!!!

WORD FOR WORD!(Just for you DUDD)

UPDATE:

WE OVERWHELMED OUR BANK SYSTEM AND SHOULD BE BACK UP AND RUNNING IN 24 TO 72 HRS. I WILL BE SENDING OUT MORE DETAILED UPDATE AFTER TOMORROW MORNING BANKING MEETING.

I think we called this excuse days ago!

Now what do you think screen22?
by DoNotBelieve February 23, 2011 4:23 PM

If this was not a blog, but an actual place where we personally meet and share our thoughts and experiences, which of us would not be here? I’m positive it’s fewer less that would not than would. I would. by Conway20 March 1, 2011 1:02 PM

I would. Matter of fact I wanted to meet with Mr. Fly when I was in Texas. Yet to no avail. He stated get help but was unable to be available for discussion. by screenname22 March 1, 2011 1:29 PM

I know who would not be there... by mdudd March 1, 2011 1:36 PM

Well Howdy Y'all

And howdy slags, Well I see it's been a busy monday. Guys don't let these slags pull your chains thats all they want to do is get to you it's a game with them.

Well I see the filing went well and the ball is yet again in play great to hear.

DOD/screewn name or whatevee screen name you want to log in under. Son get some real help please.

y'all get busted in ya lies and your little scam is falling apart and what do you want to do revert to some pimply face punk and fight. Well I am sure you will have something to say but it wouldn't last long snd when they pick you off the ground we'll just take y'all to jail no hard feelings.

DoNotBeleive/SC

As I posted they are very interested in Cor and the on going scam. I also posted that it would be helpful for the so called rangers to turn themselfs in because some not all of them really know whats going on with this. I will say this with the few interviews i was present at for the most part they like you or another victim only received phone calls or e-mails.

Now back to the slags hey Screen name whats the matter you want to fight so much you mad cause other parts on you don't work it's okay boy they got that blue pill and other stuff for that lil ol problem no wonder you are so angry with women get so help boy before it eats you up inside.

by The fly March 1, 2011 2:19 PM

Well Slags

It's 1:30 where's the MONEY have the BANKS CAUGHT UP WITH THE STAMPEDE OF FUNDS AIMED AT COR YET?????????

Where are all those happy Victims posting there Cor Checks why ain't y'all giving another reason for wait let me guess (Survey says)

1. the dog ate the access codes

2. Alberto slept at the bank over the weekend

3. You slags are lying theifs

Well whats the next move oh yea some have been funded But if that were so when all this so called money titlewaved the bank wouldn't there or for that matter your funds be in that as well or I get it your special and they were waiting at the bank to pull the special peoples funds out before the S#!T load of money hit. Am I close I just want to give you slags a chance to dig your way up a little by The fly March 1, 2011 2:40 PM

Mr., Ass Clown,
Why are you so hostile towards screenname22? All he did was ask to meet you and compare notes and you jump down his throat. Maybe Mr. Ass Clown has something to hide..
Since you claim to be a law official, of some sorts, I think a mall cop, please look into a law that was broken "Electronic Communications Privacy Act" by DoNotBelieve and his friend. DNB, was not sent any email form COR, but yet posted any email not addressed to him on a public blog. That is a NO NO. This is a total disrespect of the law and I believe this is a federal offense... by mdudd March 1, 2011 2:58 PM

Mr. Fly,

All I can say, is that I was looking for help from you and you could not or would not help me. If truly you were a person interested in helping someone concerning this preplexing issue, you would have jumped at the chance to meet and discuss the issues.

I have never been rude or ugly to you on this blog matter of fact I have been nothing but nice. I have also posted that each side should post up the facts that can be verified by ones such as myself. We do need both sides of the story. I can not say I agree with your tactics but I do have the respect for you or anyone else to post what they feel is relevant to them.
Thanks by screenname22 March 1, 2011 3:25 PM

Mr. Butt Clown and Mr. Negative both have something to hide. by Conway20 March 1, 2011 4:13 PM

DUDD
Nice scare tactic. I am really worried. If my friend wants to show me an Email he received in the privacy of his own home that is up to him. Never said it was sent directly to me. Nice try! by DoNotBelieve March 1, 2011 4:14 PM

DUDD

Howdy Slag what are you going on about now I told you to put that dope down long enough to come up for air. As for what I posted to the other slag or screen name you use what difference does it make to either of you if thats the fact Hummmmm

Whats the matter the end is getting closer and you mad cause your lil Scam is over and your so called Rangers are singing louder then a cowboy with boots on two sizes to small.

Okay I'm going Texas on you slags now so pay attention.
There's a turd floater of hurt heading y'alls way and it will be a lifetime before either of you slags will be coming up for prole. So that BS about comparing notes what notes give me a break and the BS you continue out is amazing.

If it wasn't for the fact you slags hurt so many people out there and this country in one of it's most needing of times. I would feel sorry for you But I hope when the gavel slames down that they give youe slags a year for every dollar you stole and every day you delayed. The good books says God foregives all but I am sure as the sun coming up each morning he is having one hack of a time trying this one.

Now to address the boths sides thing. Okay as I see it in a nut shell. YOU SLAGS LIED TO THE GOOD FOLK THAT TRUSTED YOU AND YOU STOLE THERE MONEY SIGHTING UNREAL RELAYS AND PROMISING PROOF THAT NEVER TO THIS DATE APPEARED. SOOOOOOOOOOO THATS YOUR SIDE SLAGS NOW FOR THE OTHER SIDE.

THE FOLKS THAT TRUSTED YOUR WORD AND WAITED FOR IN SOME CASES TWO PLUS YEARS HAVE LOSS A GREAT DEAL AND SO HAS THIS COUNTRY. THEY ARE TIRED OF YOUR LIES AND DELAYS AND UNREALISTIC PI IN THE SKY BS SO NOW ONE AT A TIME THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT ALONG WITH THE UNAWARE SO CALLED RANGERS ARE TELLING ALL THEY KNOW.

Well I think that sums it up pretty muchly if I left anything out or missed a fact please feel free to enlighten us.

by The fly March 1, 2011 4:15 PM

Conway
I would have met for a cup of coffee, like Starbuks, nothing to hide. Not in Texas. Now that gives you 49 more choices. by DoNotBelieve March 1, 2011 4:17 PM

DUDD
The privacy act states ,"If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete the message immediately." Not the case here. by DoNotBelieve March 1, 2011 4:24 PM

@screenname22
They speak so awful about and to the believers because they are bitter. That is why everyone in their minds is one in the same (COR). They cannot and will not see the forest for the trees.

How many people you know would say, "Enough with the Religion...It is only to distract everyone from the real issues."? by Conway20 March 1, 2011 4:25 PM

DoNotBeleive

We were working at a new location last year and no one knew the area sooooo we sent out for coffee and it was a charbucks OMG I thought I was going to die that was not coffee.I drink my coffee plain but you know the youngsters like that fancy moca what ya call it double expresso thingys OMG Now there is a place I once stopped at in Austin that makes a mean pot of coffee fresh all night.

Oh if I miss anything as to the both sides thing please let me know if i did by The fly March 1, 2011 4:26 PM

Well it almost 4:30 EST...Anybody been funded today?
Cherub...How about you? by DoNotBelieve March 1, 2011 4:27 PM

Conway
You all started the Religion thing...I just don't think this blog is the place for a Religious discussion. Everybody has their own beliefs and it has nothing to do with COR funding or not funding. by DoNotBelieve March 1, 2011 4:33 PM

FLY
Try Starbucks Half/Caff by DoNotBelieve March 1, 2011 4:36 PM

OMG lol by The fly March 1, 2011 4:43 PM

I see you did everything but address the issue of you were ask for help and you were unable to come through.
Thanks by screenname22 March 1, 2011 4:45 PM

@DoNotBelieve
You're just a poor misguided fool, who confuses culture (religion) with faith (God’s word). Faith is what grounds me and the other believers. God’s word is needed everywhere; especially on this blog. by Conway20 March 1, 2011 4:50 PM

DNB,
HaHaHa,But you posted it here. That makes you guilty... by mdudd March 1, 2011 4:52 PM

@DoNotBelieve
I want you to think for a moment. Not one person that can spell a little misspells your username. I don’t think you caught it when Mr. mdudd pointed it out to you before. How was your username spelled by the imposter? by Conway20 March 1, 2011 4:56 PM

i before e except after c

LOL

by screenname22 March 1, 2011 4:59 PM

What non-hooked on phonics person does it everytime? by Conway20 March 1, 2011 5:02 PM

Mr. Fly,

Since we are unable to meet in person, could you make up a quick email address so you can post it. I have some info that I would like to discuss with you.
Thanks by screenname22 March 1, 2011 5:02 PM

hummm Screen name or whtever other user name you go by

And what would that be are you trying to turn yourself in or do you have information that will help the on going case if so on one or both you don't have to Talk to me about it son just pick up your phone or cell and call the local office of the FBI and spill your guts or the LEO and that should do it.

As for anything else you may want to share please son shoot.

I meet with folks all the time son and If you know thing one about a real texan know this.

1. We don't drink with just anyone that bellys up to the bar or table.

2. We have manners and respect for women and children.

3. Most of us are good god fearing folk that would give the shirts off our backs to haep out.

4. WE DON'T LIKE OR HAVE TIME FOR LYING THEIVING LOWLIFE SLAGS THE LIKE OF COR AND ALL OF THE USER NAMES UNDER WHICH THEY USE HERE OR ANYWHERE.

I hope that cleared up any misunderstanding or disconnect we may or may not have had as for DUDD/ CONDON20 you need help son Please get help really

by The fly March 1, 2011 5:18 PM

Conway:

The are bitter because they have been lied to. Go back and read this blog from the start. It's been over 6 months and couting. Look at the numerous posts regarding Cor's intention to fund in 24 to 72 hours. Look at the people who state their names and vouch for Cor only to be uncovered by people on this site as ficticious identities. Why would someone make up an identity to vouch for a company that is real?

Another day of getting people's hopes up without funding. Another day of insulting the non-believers. Another day of trying to identify those who voice doubt. Another day without Cor funding! Another day without evidence (not words) that Cor will ever perform.
At some point, reasonable people will stand up and say "enough". A company with true intentions would provide the documentation necessary to calm the naysayers. Cor can't offer anything but more empty words and promises.

Why is it necessary for people to come on here to post messages filled with insults when people state the facts? The facts are that Cor didn't fund and now its too late for them and everyone else that was a victim of the scheme. Why is so much energy devoted to finding out who is speaking out if there is so much work supposedly being done to fund? Sounds like we are trying to cover our tracks.

You guys have ruined people and are coming on here to kick them when they are down. You should be ashamed to even look in the mirror.

This is why people get bitter.

by SeriouslyC'mon March 1, 2011 5:18 PM

Conway
I just don't think this is the place for it. Stick to the facts like you all want to.
I have Faith, I pray, I go to church...So what, what does that have to do with anything If you are trying to imply I should have Faith in COR...It isn't going to happen, never ever, no, nada!

DUDD
Big Deal! I only posted the truth!
Now you you are law enforcement, or maybe an attorney.
Come get me!

Screenname22
Yeh, I remember the rhyme from grade school.
If I were to pick someone to accuse, it wouldn't be him.
More like one of the many other screen names appearing here! You just love instigating and trying to stir up trouble it isn't going to work, that is why I ignored it the first time. Lot's of people can't get the i befor e thing.

Most of the bad mouthing is directed at me it does't matter. There just mad cause I ergued folks to stand up and file and no matter how they tryed to lie or redirect the blog you guys did Bravo for y'all.

The fact that they (Cor) has never funded is a fact that can not be disproved and that the countless excuses are just that nothing but.

I have seen there so called Contracts and what a load of Stuff. if we are to beleive the letter of that BS they Breached 120 days after it was commissioned.

Anyone that has posted disbeleif here to include me have been called unlicensed Brokers to unhappy Victims and once the poster here speaks the truth out comes the pac of jackles to try to discredit or demean.First posing as interested blogers then when the wool is pulled off out come the fangs and you see them for what they are Slags.

Your Case No# will be added to the others that are mounting and as I said please report your loss to the IRS as well

by The fly March 1, 2011 5:39 PM

CHERUB....YOU ARE QUITE!!!!
WHERE IS THE FUNDING??????????
WHERE IS THE FUNDING??????????

FACT: NO FUNDING TODAY!!!!!!!!!!

by DoNotBelieve March 1, 2011 5:40 PM

They are just trying to pit us against each other, so we will turn on one another. All they do is try to distract from the real issue.
COR HAS NOT FUNDED!!!!! by DoNotBelieve March 1, 2011 5:45 PM

Mr. Fly,

May I have the liberty to address your points on Texans.

1. We don't drink with just anyone that bellys up to the bar or table.
I have found that to be false most Texans espeacilly men will be the first to buy a stranger a drink and offer them their friendship.

2. We have manners and respect for women and children.
I truly want to believe that but your post on here that might be read by both are not very proof positive of that. Although the good people of Ausin and the area there would be a prime representation of manners and respect.

3. Most of us are good god fearing folk that would give the shirts off our backs to haep out.
I have several friends from Texas and they have always been willing to help out. Yet you have proven you are not willing to help. As far as God fearing that is a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ and between the person and Him. Just a little point but, most God fearing folk know that it is correct to capitalize God. By the way if you look at it this point contradicts your point numbr one. If they will give you the shirts off their backs then why not buy you a drink?
To use a phrase that you may be familiar with, "That ole dog don't hunt."

4. WE DON'T LIKE OR HAVE TIME FOR LYING THEIVING LOWLIFE SLAGS THE LIKE OF COR AND ALL OF THE USER NAMES UNDER WHICH THEY USE HERE OR ANYWHERE.
Here is the problem you assume that I am someone else and that I have lied to you or stolen from you. This however is not the case. I can assure you that I am not another user on this blog and I do not work for COR. Now you being a Texan knows what assuming things makes .....

And to further clear up any misunderstandings. I was willing to meet with you this last Friday and you were not available. I have offered to share info with you. Yet you seem not to want to hear or see that so who does that bring to the fore front someone willing to meet and share or someone that is on a blog ranting and raving. I still respect your opinion and hope you continue to post constructive items here on the blog positive or negative.
I can still say that until COR says they are not funding or to be fair they are incarcerated. Then I will continue to believe that they will fund. That is my decision. I can only speak for myself and no one else. I will however read or listen to both sides of the story with an open mind.
Thanks for reading,

by screenname22 March 1, 2011 5:48 PM

DNB,
Sorry if you fill I have instigated. I am only addressing the post that have been directed to me or that are publicly directed.
Thanks, by screenname22 March 1, 2011 5:52 PM

@DoNotBelieve
What does the funding has to do with you? by Conway20 March 1, 2011 6:00 PM

SC22

You know darn well who "the i befor e" comment was directed at, to me it seemed like all three of you were trying to stir up a little trouble, 3 being You, MDUDD, and C20. Like I said, "That is why I ignored it the first time around." by DoNotBelieve March 1, 2011 6:06 PM

It is the only fact that has been stated here today.

COR HAS NOT FUNDED!

My invesment is personal.

What does it have to with you? by DoNotBelieve March 1, 2011 6:09 PM

DNB,
Please accept my apology. I was just stating the rhyme as it came to my mind as humor not being directed at you personally. Will you accept my apology? It should also be noted that someone had to go and make that user name and intentionally use it. That I agree was very wrong.
Thanks by screenname22 March 1, 2011 6:13 PM

SC22
I don't think it was directed at me at all. That is what I am getting at. It was directed at another person on the blog. I don't think it was him. by DoNotBelieve March 1, 2011 6:15 PM

SC22
You are being way too nice! Reverse Psychology? by DoNotBelieve March 1, 2011 6:21 PM

DNB,
I will have to agree with you on one thing. As far as I know there has been no funding today. I do think if both the positive and negative side will post information it would serve this blog well. I have read many different views on COR and the funding here on the blog and other places. The one thing I will have to say is that Alberto was investigated pretty throughly with the Noble Group Holdings company and the SEC found no wrong doing. So possible there is an on going investigation as Mr. Fly has brought our attention to. But last time I checked we still are in the USA where you are innocent until proven guilty. Granted all things may tumble and fall and people go to jail but until then it is a personal decision we all make to stay, ask for money back or go to the authorities. We hear of this ongoing investigation well heck it may be the best thing it may also prove COR is on the up and up. Just a thought. by screenname22 March 1, 2011 6:25 PM

DNB,

Reverse Psychology, No. I just have compassion for both sides.
Thanks, by screenname22 March 1, 2011 6:33 PM

SCN22
I appreciate your candidness.

I think your suggestion for factual posting on both sides would be a good idea.
My one problem with Alberto being clean on Noble Group Holdings is that is a different deal. I am not convinced on the COR group. I really think it is not going to turn out to be so legitimate.
From the little bit I can gather from other Business people who deal in VC type ventures...These guys are a stay away from at all costs. I am talking about people who deal in millions of dollars on a daily basis. These guys are not new to this sort of operation. Business people who's companies net 90 million dollars a year. They are in the know. by DoNotBelieve March 1, 2011 7:02 PM

@screenname22
I have a compassion for both side as well, but I'm sure the majority agrees that we can careless about the obvious two liars. - The investigator now internet cop and the good friend now my investment is personal.

@DoNotBelieve
I got your message. I’m just not watching and responding to every post as you are.

I am a true partner and one that will not stand by talking out both sides of my mouth. I am a partner that believes and if I did not, I would take my money back and move on. All the hiding behind the scenes, claiming to be in support of a friend, claiming to be investigating COR for a client, claiming to have stumbled onto this blog, claiming to have filed a grievance with authorities is the biggest lies told on here. Everyone here believe that COR will fund. If it was not so, we would not be here. Each of the naysayers’ bitterness forces them to ride that fence, but they believe. Even the idiot that places the 'e' before the 'i' believes. by Conway20 March 1, 2011 9:03 PM

@Conway20,
Bravo...

@DNB,
I am not insulting your intelligence, so please do not take this wrong. You do not know what is going on. IF you think Noble Group HOldings is a different venture, then you need to look again..COR and Noble have alot to do with one another...Also see what happened with LaBon Table Foods. This all ties together....I now can see why you do not believe and it is because of lack of information....BTW, it has alot more to do with EIN's.

@screenname22,
Please keep researching. You will uncover the truth and how this is all setup. How the Government is very much involved with this entire porject that is doing...

by mdudd March 1, 2011 9:18 PM

Let me correct myself, before I get killed for it,How the Government is very much involved with this entire project that COR is doing...

by mdudd March 1, 2011 9:29 PM

@mdudd
I'm glad you caught that. Mr. Negative would have undoubtedly swooped down for the kill. by Conway20 March 1, 2011 10:03 PM

mdudd,

I will continue to search and seek information. I also know that there are at least two other companys besides COR, Noble and LaBon. I know that LaBon became Noble through a name change where the Board of Directors were also changed. I think also there are some Canada and Western Europe involvement also. Not completly sure on the region. This is not a claim this can be verified with some internet surfing and research. But please if I am off base correct me.
Thanks by screenname22 March 1, 2011 11:09 PM

Conway

You just don't get it.
My investment is of a personal nature, I have no money invested, just a long, close frienship.
We all are trying to deal in facts and all you do is call me a liar. I am not a partner, and never have been.
I became involved on my own initiatly by searching the internet once my firend told me what he was going to do. He doesn't even know this site exists. I have never discussed it with him.
Why do you always have to attack everyone. As we have said before, we are all entitled to our opinion. I am not hiding behind the scenes for Godsakes it is the internet it isn't a meet in person kind of thing.

Get COR to Fund and it will be over or if not I guess there are many worse alternatives for all those involved.

One thing I do think...you are DOD...He disappeared and you arrived, with the same caustic comments.

I don't answer every message but if someone asks me an appropriate question, I feel they deserve an answer.

MDUDD
I know the conection between LaBon and Noble. That was found way back when quite easily with inernet surfing, the Board investigation etc.

by DoNotBelieve March 1, 2011 11:37 PM

Conway
No fence to ride...You should know by all my comments which side of the fence I am on, it is not yours! by DoNotBelieve March 1, 2011 11:40 PM

Whichever one of you is posting under the Cherub screen name should chime in on the missed funding date. You provided several messages relative to a time by which funds would be disbursed. Now that this date has come and gone like soooo many others, have you joined the ranks of the disillusioned?

If not, you should understand that your update serves to perpetuate the fraud and you will be liable. Perhaps you are still praying over the issue as you have suggested that we do.

Why are people bitter? Because you guys keep playing with them even after ruining their lives. Once again, your "facts" come with no evidence and the funding never happens.

I love the reintroduction of the Lebon Table Foods as some vindication that the government has signed off on Alberto and Art. They were using this stall 9 months ago. They just needed to clear up one or two issues...The SEC has almost cleared everything...

Yet still no funding. Hey Rangers, are you licensed to raise funds for a company regulated by the SEC? Oops, securities fraud. Wait, you don't need to worry about that because Lebon and Cor are tied to one another. Wait, if thats the case, why are we talking about Lebon as some sort of confirmation that the government has cleared Alberto? You guys can't have it both ways.

It's almost time for the "funding starts on Friday announcement" to be followed by "banking delays, but we've fixed them, funding to start within 72 hours". Pure BS! I think that Alberto is afraid to give anyone any money from this Ponzi scheme as he knows that some will use it to sue his ass.

Don't bother with the conjectures, insults or the prayer requests. I do look forward to any FACTS. It seems that most of my posts are ignored while you guys banter about f*ing coffee. Take some time and give some facts that will confirm that Cor can fund or better yet Alberto (I know which one you are), just fund these poor people their money back.

by SeriouslyC'mon March 2, 2011 12:34 AM

SeriouslyC'mon/DoNotBelieve/fly

This is obviously fraud.

If these guys were really serious about funding, all they had to do is write check and drop it in the mail and the "good old fashsion post office" would deliver is 2-3 days.

But that is too "simple and low tech" yeah.!!!! Its been almost a months since they claim to have "snow issues" and two weeks since they claim to have "wired the funds'

Total time? 5 minutes per project.
Total cost? 44 cents plus the envelope.(I am just been crude here)

There all kinds to ways to "account" for the funds, but they would never do this. Why? Because their check would bounce from here to Timbuktu.

Wonder what the next excuse will be?

by summerheat March 2, 2011 7:43 AM

AGREE!

SC'mon
Nobody answers any legitimate questions, I have said that time and time again. I don't know why they started this LaBon, Noble business again. Distraction I guess.
I also was summoning the Cherub...all quiet, that was days ago, he is on his cloud counting.

FACT FOR THE MORNING UPDATE:
COR HAS NOT FUNDED!

by DoNotBelieve March 2, 2011 8:49 AM

i have a question for the 4 of you: How many projects is COR funding? Do any of you know? It was said in an email a couple of months ago. DNB, You may not have seen the email, since you are not a part of this directly..Summer Heat you had said 200 projects. I am just curious..

Cherub, you disappointed these guys. I believe they are calling you out. To bad, I think you are one of them... by mdudd March 2, 2011 9:13 AM

@screenname22,

I know of Europe. Not sure of Canada, it would be speculation on my part...Keep in mind, the info you are looking for has been done and buried over a year ago. If you look up my post, where I asked questions and answered them, it will give you a little more insight. Public companies, DTCC, etc. Also look at Conway20 post that talked about the master trust fund....put that all together.
If you want to get really crazy, Look up what happened to China recently, when they wanted to bring in 50 -75 billion into this country. They have to follow the same steps.

by mdudd March 2, 2011 9:20 AM

Mdudd
You are well aware of the number. I dont need to reharsh that here. You are included in these communications that get send around. And you probably originate some yourself.

Fact is COR has NOT FUNDED...... not one soul to date. I mean actual "available funds", not some BS on a computer software, and continue to give excuses after excuse with no results. by summerheat March 2, 2011 9:24 AM

Another Day, Good Morning.....Keep hope alive...It has begun.. Goodbye all !!! by cherub of hopes March 2, 2011 9:26 AM

What is does is prove is that you are a partner? See you are wrong again. DOD even provided you an email address to prove it. You seek proof, then email him... I will not show my proof on a public forum. That is for my eyes only..See I have alot to lose, unlike DNB, by posting info directed towards me and I will not jeopardize it to prove people wrong. Again it is kind of funny how you think I am somebody in this. Guys sorry to dissapoint, I am just a project partner, hopefully like yourself. by mdudd March 2, 2011 9:33 AM

Cherub,
I hope you are genuine, and not one of these jokers.. by mdudd March 2, 2011 9:35 AM

DoD wasn't real.

Cherub, you are correct, it has begun. I'm not talking about the funding as you guys have said this too many times to be believed. Don't worry, the prisons have chapels. You were more entertaining when you were using the Thomas 13 scrren name six months ago. You stated almost the same update in the same language yet there is still no funding for the people whose lives you have ruined.

Anyone care to address my questions about Lebon, the SEC, etc?

by SeriouslyC'mon March 2, 2011 10:35 AM

Sc,
What would you like to know? by mdudd March 2, 2011 11:26 AM

By you saying DOD was not real, you emailed him? by mdudd March 2, 2011 11:27 AM

I have emailed DOD several times lately but no answer. I hope he was funded and to busy to answer. by Agoodventure March 2, 2011 11:37 AM

I thought he said he was going away (on vacation). That could be the reason... by mdudd March 2, 2011 11:51 AM

Yes I believe you are correct. He did mention it in a post. by Agoodventure March 2, 2011 2:06 PM

There seems to be general confusion regarding what's going with COR and/or Alberto and as it may pertain to their overall culpability and responsibility towards those whom COR/Alberto has entered into signed contracts with.

When some partners agreed to enter into agreement with COR, it came with the pressure that the program was going to close soon; "so get your money in soon so you don't miss out"! This message was clearly conveyed. This fact combined with the promises by Alberto that funding has been around the corner for over a year and a half now have kept partners believing and hopeful that Alberto would be successful in delivering on his contracts. The partners believed Alberto and COR.

The partners entered into to contract with the full knowledge and belief that Alberto's statements were true and correct and that Alberto had the ability to perform as he had stated with imminent funding.

Project partners did not sign on and pay application fee’s for a chemistry experiment of funding that was untested or unverifiable? The partners were left certain by Alberto's written statements that funding was complete and going to happen very soon, (over and over again) and therefore provided the application fees and attempted to wait patiently over the last year and a half.

Returning the application fee’s at this point will not provide resolution to any partner whom has suffered the financial losses due to the lack of performance by Alberto/COR.

When Alberto signed partners into contracts and accepted their money Alberto may have committed Criminal Fraud based upon Federal law. He knowingly took the money from partners while writing them expected due dates for funding that never occurred because Alberto had nothing to offer the partners at the time. Instead it appears that he took partners money and then attempted to create…’something’ that may provide funding? Alberto may have simply attempted to use the partner application fees to fund Alberto’s – COR’s business plan which Alberto was hopeful that would create a funding method, institution or other. The partners never would have signed on for this and did not sign on for this arrangement.

The fact that Alberto, COR created false urgency, took fees and promised funding which never occurred is prosecutable as Criminal Fraud in Federal court. Damages have been created by Alberto towards the partners for continually giving them new dates of promised funding and caused partners to clinch even tighter to their project control and financial issues attempting to keep them alive. It appears evident that many partners have been dying a slow and painful death struggling to keep the project prepared as to honor the business relationship with COR and Alberto to move the project ahead rapidly when funded. These have been major damages which have been incurred with great loss of wealth and emotional health from each partner.

Additionally there is the financial loss from ‘lack of performance’ by Alberto/COR and employees with the knowledge of these events. Each partner may be owed tens of millions, (perhaps hundreds of millions) of dollars as described within the performance of each partner’s contract.

Some of the contracts which apparently state that “class actions” are not possible or that simply returning your application fees to provide resolution between COR and partners will not be adequate at this point.

There are further damages to each partner and class actions will be able to be utilized to prosecute Alberto and employees of COR should this go to a Federal Court if fraud has been established and it does and it seems as if it could become established at this point.

But the question still looms? Why would Alberto have positioned himself for this level of prosecution and the self instilled written evidence to be used to prosecute him?

Perhaps Alberto is passionate man who has developed a unique intellectual property of creating this amazing funding opportunity for him, COR, COR employees and partners with good projects? He doesn’t want to share his intellectual property! That’s Alberto’s choice and the partners will have their choices but math is math with the sum total of the events to dates are adding up to an unfortunate conclusion devoid of immediate funding.

I am still going to hold out for hope that Alberto can perform this week because I do believe this will end soon as partners get further disenfranchised, feel duped or straight up cheated. The boiling point is very close and potentially tragic as partners will be sure to pull together and organize a major and seemingly well publicized legal pursuit. Let’s hope not but it looms more now then ever as excuses are done.

Now the questions, answers and end game are in Alberto’s court while the partners remain hopeful that Alberto will understand the pain and anguish and suffering that the abandonment in funding have created for each partner!

The ranting emails and posts from Alberto arguing and lashing out at detractors are useless. It is my personal belief that only funding the partners immediately will work at this point.

Alberto, the partners are on your side and they just want you to do what you write.

It’s really that plain a simple…

by sweet angel March 2, 2011 3:16 PM

He must be on the same vacation as Jeffery Bernard, managing partner for Madison Marquette Retail Services. He was the other false identity posted here to vouch for Cor. His post was removed after Madison Marquette (a real company) found out that a ficticious person claiming to be an employee of theirs was listed on this site in support of Cor.

Why would Cor need to make up people if they are themselves real?

DoD, Jeffrey, Cherub and others. The pattern of deception is real. The only evidence of DoD is a facebook page that clearly was created hastily. There is no reference to such a successful businessman on the web. Don't think so. It took almost a week for that clown to come up with an e-mail address that everyone is supposed to write to for the verification.

Dudd, why the deception?

Is Cor linked to Lebon for this process? If so, please answer my question about the SEC issues inherent in having unlicensed people raise funds for a company that the SEC has barred from issuing stock. Dudd, take a run at that question?

As Lebon is a public company, aren't they required to offer transparency?

If Cor is held up by banking and regulatory issues, why has one guy recieved funding? Since he hasn't, why the deception? Dudd?

Dudd, why do people come on here in support of this process unless they are concerned that the negative factual statements regarding a lack of funding are somehow going to derail their receipt of money? Wouldn't this be the case when dealing with a Ponzi scheme rather than a company that has the money in place but is having issues getting it released by the bank?

by SeriouslyC'mon March 2, 2011 3:24 PM

Sweet Angel:

I was writing my last post and did not see yours until after I hit the "Post Reply" button.

I want to congratulate you for eloquently summizing the facts and for manner in which you shared your information. I don't think that anyone on this blog for the past 6 months (myself included) has offered anything that compares to your post.

by SeriouslyC'mon March 2, 2011 3:40 PM

VERY INTERESTING!!!!

by DoNotBelieve March 2, 2011 4:27 PM

The silence will be deafening.

by SeriouslyC'mon March 2, 2011 4:34 PM

I wrote a post but it didn't show up, oh well.

The noise is called scrambling.
Silence...Where are all the screen names now?

GOOD WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON UPDATE:
(as COR often likes to put it)

FACT: COR HAS NOT FUNDED by DoNotBelieve March 2, 2011 4:45 PM

Well Howdy

Y'all Have been busy i must say as for the snap shot of the scam known as Cor and the players are spot on there are a few other crimes that were left out wire fruad and operating a criminal organization mail fruad and a few more But the break down was correct as for holding out for this scam to pay off thats a waste of time.

I find a very similar mind set in the new poster but i will allow this hunch to play it's self out but remember you hear it here first I will say that this one is a counter to the fairer sex that have been posting here Hummmmm.

SC

How are things coming along with you and did you remember to report your loss time to the IRS as for the intake fee???

DoNotBeleive

How is your friend still holding out or have they decided to file as well????

To give y'all a heads up on the Radio talk show that is going to carry this Fruad thing on there nationwide Show I should have the intel on that one sometime today I hope but don't hold my feet to the fire on this one.

As I read over the new poster I can't help but come away with the feeling that it is a gage to see what if any sympathy is there. At this point in time I would venture to say None at all but thats just me (LOL)The facts are before you all and have been for some time and the hard down fall for cor and it's crew has been put in motion.

They will go to jail and the loss of the Victims will be revailed to be deep and vast these are the facts it will also be said that Mr. Colon and his small band of crooks added to the economist disstress and jobless rate by holding the Victims at bay with continued delays and lies.

by The fly March 2, 2011 4:49 PM

Fly
My friend has set up his meeting with the authorities.

I am always a little sketical when a new screenname arives and is somewhat sympathetic yet still thinking the funded will happen. The message was filled with some interesting info. Some of which some of us have believed for quite sometime.

I believe my friend received an Email 2/28 stating more delays due to banking issues. I will clarify for sure.

by DoNotBelieve March 2, 2011 5:06 PM

I would venture to say that DUDD and all of the other screen names are busy getting there stuff together before the steel door slams on them all.

SC/DoNotBeleive and another poster here

Have steped up to the plate and did the right thing also your posting here has added in others making that call as well.

I would like to thank you both for your willingness to break the chain Cor has held over you all. By moving forward it has made what I have done more meaningful It is always enjoyable to see a case come to a rightous ending. As I have posted I do deeply regret the loss of time and creative efford you and those others that are a part of this scam.

I think that the next move will be to combine all of the complaints and have them assigned to a task group the players will all be id'ed and the DOJ will then collect all of the findings and Make one large federal Case out of this seeing as it has been committed all over the united states.

It has and continues to be a pleasure to read thur your and Donotbeleives also summerheats post I hope and wish all the best for your continued business and personal well being as to the fate of the Slags well We all know what that will be

by The fly March 2, 2011 5:08 PM

I can't spell today...too much in a hurry!
skeptical
arrives
funding will by DoNotBelieve March 2, 2011 5:09 PM

There are some very nasty people on here and frankly it hasn't been all that easy to hold my ground. What made it even more dificult was the fact I was holding for somebody else. Hopefuly we will see some sort of a resolution in the near future. I am here for as long as it takes. by DoNotBelieve March 2, 2011 5:22 PM

Well now...
I have taken the side of COR since the beginning of my post but after several calls this afternoon, I may need to rethink my position and make a public apology to MR. Fly.
Thanks, by screenname22 March 2, 2011 5:44 PM

Hummmm

Well Slow down if you can and don't worry about all the bush wackers here thats just there nature. As for the long haul well i've already cut out my little slice of space here and not leaving until I can see the slags in Bright Orange jumpsuits.

Looking at the New poster I see the same as you do it is strange as the post swings both ways. But so have so many before this one to be a gentle and interested person and then as I posted the fangs come out as time passed.

I would once again hope my post and take on this scam has been helpful to you and others here.

by The fly March 2, 2011 5:50 PM

sweet angel

I really enjoy ready your March 2, 2011 3:16 PM post. It eloquently summarizes the course of events, and mood of the partners at this point.

by summerheat March 2, 2011 5:57 PM

That should be "I really enjoy reading" by summerheat March 2, 2011 6:00 PM

Geesh, I am so confused this afternoon. by screenname22 March 2, 2011 6:06 PM

I would think that the walls are closing in on the colon empire at this point and that the fight or flight feeling is kicking in.

keep me posted on which will be first?????????? by The fly March 2, 2011 6:09 PM

Screenname22

Are you being serious? Or are you being facetious?
I hope you are indeed serious! by DoNotBelieve March 2, 2011 6:23 PM

Sweet Angel,
Thank you for an Excellent Post. You have taken both sides and merged them together. Yes, you, I and alot of others still hope and believe that COR will fully fund. Some do not. In a matter of 2 pages you have done what the for's and against's have not been able to accomplish. Agree on something. It is definitely up to one person to STOP THIS and he knows who his is (no it is not me BTW).
I just do not understand one thing, what makes anyone believe that funding is supposed to start this week? Or is that just an assumption or hope?

by mdudd March 2, 2011 6:42 PM

You see Cherub...it has begun!

Screen 22, thank you for your post and being strong enough to offer an apology to Fly. May I ask about the nature of the calls and the information that you received from them that have led to your differing views?

Dudd, I understood Sweet Angel's message to mean that he was giving Alberto until the end of the week to perform. I would imagine that everyone has their own deadline and Sweet Angel (or his client) will reach their deadline soon.

by SeriouslyC'mon March 2, 2011 6:56 PM

Sweet Angel,
Please verify, Is that a personal deadline or do you know about some sort of funding this week?

@screenname 22, could you please shine some light on the confussion?

@SC,
From my understanding of LeBon, It never finished. That is why they went after Noble Group Holdings. LeBon has too many issues. But the fact remains that Noble is a publicly traded company. COR is not Noble. Alberto and company (you can look up the board of directors online) make up Noble, so the rangers would have nothing to do with Noble or anything to do with SEC licenses. Alberto is responsible for 2 companies. One for the public (which was required by the government, so the SEC and FCC can be involved). The other is Private, COR. The purpose of Noble, who was already licensed with the DTCC, was so COR would not have to create a new public company, then have to register with the DTCC which would have taken years. As you and I both have read the message here about the master trust fund, I am going to assume (do not know for fact) that is where the master trust fund resides. You know of how many projects there are, so do not think it is that easy to accomplish. One mishap, one misstep and we could be right back in the holding pattern. You were sent out as, well as all of the project partners of COR’s entire project outline and total monies.
Sweet Angel talked about one thing that REALLY made a lot of sense. Why would Alberto, being the head of COR, send out all of these emails, create a way to track distribution of funds, stop taking intake money, and still be here. We all know, including Alberto, his neck is on the line to produce and fully fund all of these projects. If he does not accomplish this he is looking at alot of jail time. Have there been delays over the past 2 years? YES. Probably too many to count. Have they been corrected? YES. There is only one thing left to do and that is to FULLY FUND...

Hopefully all of their issues has been corrected. They did try and fund everyone on the Feb. 18th- Feb. 23. There was an attempt made. Some received monies, some had pending transfers, that were later pulled back and some never got to that point. I am under the impression or hope, that another on is going to happen this week. I do not know for sure. I am going by the chatter here. My opinion is Friday, because for some reason everything happens on Friday. One thing I do believe is that there are not going to be any more updates…

by mdudd March 2, 2011 7:21 PM

Mdudd
I guess we on one thing and I quote "We all know, including Alberto, his neck is on the line to produce and fully fund all of these projects. If he does not accomplish this he is looking at alot of jail time." A lot of people on this blog thinks you are Alberto btw. by summerheat March 2, 2011 7:51 PM

That should be "I guess we agree on one by summerheat March 2, 2011 7:53 PM

MDUDD

You say why would Alberto be here. Nobody knows for sure he is here. He could be anywhere.

I was informed by my friend that supposedly out of the 200 some projects, it looked as though one person was funded and that isn't even for sure that he really was.
That delay once again caused him much distress. As of Monday 2/28 COR is still blaming banking issues. Cor has still not funded. Sounds fishy!
More and more unrest among the partners, things are starting to unravel.
Why would you say, "One thing I do believe is that there are not going to be any more updates." What do you know that nobody else knows?

by DoNotBelieve March 2, 2011 7:55 PM

Summer heat,
Unfortunately, there are a lot people that are going to be wrong. Sorry to disappoint. I have been saying all along, that I am a project partner.

DNB,
I say the reason for no more updates, is because someone posted the last update on a public forum. Also, there really is nothing left to say. One thing left to do, and we all know what that is to fully fund..See that I believe is a problem, we all expect updates. Then we get an update and go here is an excuse or here is a delay.
As for the banking issue or issues, I knew of a couple of small problems and thought they were corrected. Do not know of any others. Tell your friend, he is not alone in his distress. There are a lot of people that are not happy judging from sweet angel's post. I do not feel that things are starting to unravel. One thing is for sure, we are definitely closer to the end then the beginning.
I still want to know if anyone has some sort of confirmation on funding this week...Not just Internet chatter.... by mdudd March 2, 2011 9:13 PM

I’m only back by popular demand for one last performance. You naysayers make me feel like a Rock Star. It’s crystal clear that a few of you will not let me go. LOL!

- SeriouslyC'mon

You won’t find me outside of Facebook for one reason. I do not desire to be found, but if you request to be my friend, I promise to accept. No article has ever been written on me and placed anywhere, but my son, that is a different story. My company is not registered where you would obviously think to look. I am just as real as you, but I decided to let my nuts hang by giving my real name. Sorry if I offended the ladies with that visual. I know of two bloggers that may like it. LOL!

Now, can you be found on the internet? Who are you? I can tell you who I think you are. You are the biggest clown here. From what I read, you filed a complaint with federal authorities. From what I read, it did not or will not move as expeditiously as you expected. From what I read, your last post was to be the time you purportedly filed your compliant, but you are still here. I have nothing to prove to you, but I did offer to help. Others have accepted my help, why did you not give it a try.

Believers and nonbelievers, this blog really has not helped anyone. We should have been supporting one another instead of fighting each other. A few have received a taste of what COR will ultimately complete whether you believe or not. I wish you all the best of luck.

by DoOrDie March 2, 2011 9:54 PM

DOD,

Welcome back by Agoodventure March 2, 2011 11:10 PM

DoD:

What an unusual strategy for someone who supposedly owns a number of businesses in so many locations. I'll tell you what, why don't you send me an e-mail? Just give me a week or so to check with my secretary so that she can tell me what e-mail address to use.

You must think us to be quite the fools to believe that line of BS or the newly created Facebook page. Did you forget the Jeffery Bernard character you guys created once the real company you associated him with had the post removed? It was after that happened that you created DoD. Thomas 13 had to be replaced with Cherub because he announced a funding date more than 5 months ago that never happened. Cherub did it again last week and has almost disappeared since his date and time passed. You are as real as Cor, therefore I don't believe you.

Art, as an attorney who was trying to use his posts to scare people away from going to authorities, I wonder what you thought of Sweet Angel's post. It would appear that he is an attorney who is well versed in the law, versed in Cor's shortcomings, and is ready to take action. He is but one of dozens of attorneys who will be involved in Alberto's remaining years.

Why do I return to this blog after my meetings last week? I want to watch your pain as your fraud is exposed. I will offer comfort to the other victims and ensure that Cor cannot hurt anyone else. I will know that when you disappear it's because you are on the run.

by SeriouslyC'mon March 2, 2011 11:44 PM

These guys are too much! They sure have each others backs or should I say their own back!
They miraculously come out of the woodwork, one goes silent another appears.
DOD you can stay gone! Go join Cherub on his cloud counting.

Thursday Fact: Another day begins, COR HAS NOT FUNDED!! by DoNotBelieve March 3, 2011 8:42 AM

@SeriouslyC'mon
It really does not matter what you think at this moment. You are obviously miserable and confused. What you need to be concern about is your own business, because my business is just fine.

Why have you not requested your funds back from COR? Honestly answer that question. That’s ok; I will answer it for you. YOU ARE WAITING TO BE FUNDED. Now that’s an even better strategy. Forget about what others have posted. What are you going to do? You got involved with COR on your own free will. So, use that same will to decide what’s good for you. Quit emailing Haugen and Colon asking about the wires and then come on here and post they are frauds. Everyone knows that is what you all are doing. Quit being fools! I suggested it once and I will suggest it again. If you don’t believe, do something about it.

Hello to you to girlie (DoNotBelieve). I see you have been my biggest fan. I see you went from being a good friend to personally invested. Wow! No hard feelings. I wish you the best of luck as well.

by DoOrDie March 3, 2011 8:49 AM

DOD

Same old business with you.You always need explanation.
I am a good friend...Personally invested means, my investment is Personal not Monetary. It has not changed.

Got it PERSONAL NOT MONETARY!!!!!!!

by DoNotBelieve March 3, 2011 10:16 AM

DOD

People did do something about it. You haven't been reading all the posts.

SeriuoslyC'mon went to the authorities and my friend is doing the same. Meeting has already been set up! by DoNotBelieve March 3, 2011 10:20 AM

DoD, thanks for the statements. If ever I need legal advice from a group that has lied to me, ruined countless lives, and used ficticious identities while doing so, I'll let you know.

by SeriouslyC'mon March 3, 2011 10:57 AM

@SeriouslyC’mon

At what time did someone’s life became ruined by COR’s actions? Is it true that COR has nearly 20 broken promises to fund? At what broken promise your life became ruin? If you decided stick around for all 20 alleged broken promises, than who is really to blame. Mr. Bieser certainly did not hang around for 20 broken promises. Why did you?

I hope my questions are not tough. You avoided the money back question. Help the blog understand your problem, not everyone else’s; just yours.

@My Number One Fan

Girlie be quiet, real partners are talking here. I know you miss me, but I’m not ready for you yet. You cannot put your mouth on everyone's piece, opps, I meant be the mouthpiece for everyone.

by DoOrDie March 3, 2011 12:42 PM

DoD seems to think that everyone is perfectly fine with Cor's failures to fund. He can't comprehend that commitments were made based on Cor's lies. DoD, unlike you, these victims are real people.

Have someone slowly read Sweet Angel's post to you and you will comprehend why someone wouldn't request a return of the money at this point. You guys are just begging for people to let you off the hook but you are mistaken if you think they are going to do that.

"At what point did someone's life become ruined by Cor's actions" is a question that shows just how out of touch with reality you guys are.

Anyone else care to answer his question?

by SeriouslyC'mon March 3, 2011 1:30 PM

No. You answer it. We are talking about you. You have not asked for your money back. You are still here. You answer it. How did it ruin your life? I understand how it can affect one’s life if they stayed around from one broken promise after another. I get that. Can you help the blog understand how it affected you and why have you not asked for your money back. You can only speak from your own experience.

by DoOrDie March 3, 2011 1:38 PM

SerouslyC'mon

The return or the fee or not at this point is a non issue if the victims that have been refunded still report or file for there losses it is still a valid case or fruad.

1. Breack of contract

2. personal and business loss due to unreasonable delays and excuses

3. Mail fruad, wire fruad, comengeleing

4. IRS issues SEC and a ton of other agency felonys

The fact that it is now march and there quarterly Were funding BS E-Mails are out and passed is proof that this is a scam if you look at the pattern you will see the very same posting timeline give or take a month.

No one has been funded from this scam and the only monies that were spent or given were and are for the personal use of the Criminal Organization known as Cor headed By Alberto B. Colon.

There is a proven pattern of falure to proform and to use moneys that were submitted by Victims for other uses.

1. NO accountability of funds submitted

2. Continued lies,delays and excuses

3. NO real location of Cor business operations

4. NO EIN/TIN or reporting of the fee holdings of the victims to the IRS or the Issue of a 1099 to show proof to support these holdings and interest due the victims if this was to be a legit company.

The slags here are here just to play games and taunt those here that are legit and hurt by this crime.

PUERTO RICO

Well slags I understand that yet another load of victims have submitted complaints sighting Cor as theifs also I understand that there is now 90 Million in collections leveled at Cor and it's officers and growing.

To Address the change of heart of Screen name if I can beleive it. Well I will put it like this I am not here to make friends I am here to alert as many Victims and gather as much information on the slags and pass it on. I have completed my end of the Investigation That was assigned and I continue pop in to track where the victims are. I must say it is very heart warming to see that more and more Victims are standing up and filing.And that the list of So Call rangers are calling in to tell there side of the story as well to clear there names in some cases and to get a real in a few.

DoOrDie

Welcome back dirtbag i see you crawled out from your dark and wet place to spew more lies disseption and your own brand of extra strong BS. Please get real mental help turn yourself in and feel better about yourself by The fly March 3, 2011 2:46 PM

DOD

You call me girlie...What does that make you,
"Little Guns"? You probably have small feet too!

Frankly I am sorry you reappeared because you are a
DISGUSTING HUMAN BEING!!!!!

DoNotBelieve, why do you pretend to be a guy? by ElmosWorld March 3, 2011 3:11 PM

Elmo

howdy son

Y'all wanta sit at the grown folk table why would you question my ability to spell. You of all posters here should understand that one. can ELMO SAY RICO? by The fly March 3, 2011 3:46 PM

Fly: You misspell words purposely, and it's obvious. Just trying to figure out what your angle is? Who are you?

by ElmosWorld March 3, 2011 3:56 PM

LAMO... or sorry ELMO

Why do you pretend to be a human being when your are really a Muppet!!!

Thought you were also gone from the board for good...You screen names just can't stay away. Have to back up your alter egos. by DoNotBelieve March 3, 2011 4:00 PM

DoD, you're off on another fishing trip. You want me to describe the problems I've encountered with Cor's lack of funding so you can match up what I say with the e-mails people send to you (when you're Alberto). Either that or you are going to relish the problems I share while spouting off about your own imaginary successes. Either way, you should burn for eternity.

Anyone who's not imaginary feeling unharmed by Cor's inability to honor their contract? Has this been a positive experience for anyone?

by SeriouslyC'mon March 3, 2011 4:04 PM

@ElmosWorld

He and the other are cowards. Big balls behind their screen names, but are afraid of their own shadows. They don’t realize how full of shit they sound, but their days are numbered; especially my girlie responding friend.

I know for a fact that they have never talked to anyone face to face in the manner that they have on this blog. I bet that there is a fat hairy armpit female that smokes Marlboro that runs their households.

Hey girlie, how many times you looked out your window. I counted 33 times.

by DoOrDie March 3, 2011 4:31 PM

Well that settles it. SeriouslyC'mon is definitely playing both sides of the fence. He has been talking shit just like the other two clowns. Why would he worry about what Alberto will do unless he believes that the funding is coming. If I said the shit he did and feel the way he does, screw Alberto and give me my damn money back now. I just knew you guys would make me laugh today. Sorry bunch of jackasses.

by DoOrDie March 3, 2011 4:39 PM

DOD

You really are scary. One minute you think I am a project partner, next minute I am my friend, now I am girlie. The only thing I see out my window is...ah, I can't say that, I might give myself away.

There was a new update to the Rangers from the mighty Alberto then forwarded to the Partners.

Hey everybody guess where he was????
You got it!
Worked the arduous day at the bank...

Anybody else get this?

by DoNotBelieve March 3, 2011 4:42 PM

Wonder if anybody else noticed that the Ranger Update is almost always sent in the middle of the night. Always a time when most people would not be receiving or reading an Email.
Thought it was kind of curious. Just an observation. by DoNotBelieve March 3, 2011 4:47 PM

The confusion just gets deeper. I do know that after several calls to different agencies, I can be called a fence rider. I was whole heartedly with the COR side and now I am not to sure. I can say that I do believe in the justice system with the statement you are innocent till proven guilty. But come on.....

There are so many unknowns on both sides. Just start reading from the top of the blog. We still have no more information then we had when this blog started. Still the stand off of the believers and the non-believers. The facts are still the same. Some people claim to have more information then others and will not share it. I understand that with a confidentiality clause in their contract or some ongoing investigation. So we sit in a boat that is taking on water and bailing as franticly as we can hoping that the waves do not over come us. I for one would like to see some factual information on COR not Nobel or LeBon. I have dug and dug and made some phone calls some have been negative and some positive and some down right scary. What it boils down to is the money. Who has it? Where is it? When will the partners get it? I have been told of a master trust, Bank of America, Chase and other financial institutions. Along with the idea of billions. We can look at the Federal Reserve issue that is in the making as we post. The missing and secret allocation of 12.3 trillion dollars. Ok so now we have a grasp on the fact that lots of money can dissapear with out anyone being responsible for it because the Fed is not run by elected officials. This is not to move attention away from the blog issues but to establish the fact that in America money moves when people say it does and stays when they say it does. Banks control the movement of money. I do not pretend to know the hardships COR may have gone through in their endeavor to fund. I do know that what ever delays they have had can be rectified and money can flow. So we are back to square one. When will COR fund?

As of my post I can see no funding today. I hope I am wrong and money is being deposited into your accounts even now.
Thanks, by screenname22 March 3, 2011 4:52 PM

SC22
Not in my friends acciunt.
There was no funding. There is suppose to be another update coming out, so your guess is as good as anyone as to what it will say.

AC is still claiming to be working arduously at the bank!

It is ridiculous!

by DoNotBelieve March 3, 2011 5:00 PM

@girlie

You have always been a Project Partner and girlie like. The friend shit is your lie. I use as my sarcasm stick.

@screenname22

Nothing and I mean nothing should be taken seriously off this blog. You will turn into these jackasses if you do.

by DoOrDie March 3, 2011 5:07 PM

DoD, my mistake, I forgot that I was conversing with a fool.

by SeriouslyC'mon March 3, 2011 5:08 PM

DoNotBelieve is funny. She gets so excited to post her negative disposition that she consistently misspells words when on the attack. Be positive and good things will come. BELIEVE! by ElmosWorld March 3, 2011 5:10 PM

Everyone here please listen!
There is no funding and there will be no funding!
This blog is similar to another blog on this site. Do yourself a favor and read this thread Click HereAlso, google American Paramount Financial and google Marjam Capital.
May be you will start to see clear on this scam and realize that there will be no funding and no deposit returned!!!
Good luck everyone! by mattspindlerloans March 3, 2011 5:19 PM

Yes, I know account...You are still a Muppet

DOD
GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM NOT A PROJECT PARTNER!!!!!!!!!!!

If I was a Project Partner I would be a helleva lot more angry than I am as a friend of one.

Muppet
I do Believe...It's just not in COR!

by DoNotBelieve March 3, 2011 5:26 PM

WOW!
That is all I can say! by DoNotBelieve March 3, 2011 5:32 PM

Mr. DOD,

Personally I look at what is presented here and digest it with it's validity to what I can find myself that supports it. I can only say that some of the calls and information has been negative and some has been positive and one call in particular was down right scary. Like I posted I was totally with COR.I even tried to meet with MR. Fly while I was in Texas on some business to try and confirm some of the things he was saying. He was unfortunately unable to attend such a meeting. I truly am seeking information. The lack of communication and the continued delays are to say the least a bit frustrating for project partners and all that have invested time negative or positive.
Thanks,

by screenname22 March 3, 2011 5:34 PM

Folks Folks

Please don't get youreslfs worked up it's what slags do when they first ooz up from there dark dank places. Slag 1 is harmless but mad and grumpy cause it's world is closing in on it.

The so called ranger group can no longer be trusted cause some of them have made a deal and it's too late so now there like rats caught in a corner lashing out at anything that moves plus you know the ol saying misery loves company well there you have it.

DoOrDie

dang slag thought you would be working hard on your vast empire and wouldn't have time to grace this lowly blog.
Whats the matter slag your lil ol world come crashin down around ya, The big bad ol po-lice barkin at your heels.

Did you come down off that dope high too long and you need to get back up there.

Well haveing fun slag where ya been becides dopeville.

SC this slag ain't no fool it knows what it's doing

by The fly March 3, 2011 5:45 PM

At least the ceasefire lasted 3 hours. Now, I guess the war is back on.
1st. Welcome back DOD. Hopefully vacation was great.
2nd. Screenname22, You will not find out alot about COR. remember they are private and like to stay that way. Project Partners and friends have thier own opnions, which in its own right can be down right confusing.
3rd. Why is that Mr. Ass Clown (the fly) talks and spells like an idiot and a then morphs into a spelling and Enlgish Professor? Talk about mulitple personalities.
4th. No funding this week.
So we will have another week of this back and forth BS.
5th. No I am not Alberto...Sorry to disappoint again...
6th. Please do not compare what is happening here to another blog. One blog is enough for all of us.
7th. One thing for sure, COR Tried to fund all of thier projects on Feb. 18th -Feb. 23 2011. It was not successful. Hopefully soon they will try again.... by mdudd March 3, 2011 7:19 PM

THURSDAY IS OVER!

ALL IS QUIET!

COR HAS NOT FUNDED!

OVER AND OUT! by DoNotBelieve March 3, 2011 11:21 PM

I had to come back for one last post. I repeat, my faith in in God, COR is only a vessel that was introduced to us for the purpose of providing whatever they’re here to provide. Trust in the Lord with all your heart; do not depend on your own understanding. Seek his will in all you do, and he will direct your paths. Proverbs 3:5-6

As I pray my day operates in divine harmony in according to God’s will, “this is the day that the Lord has made and the Lord has been so good to us, we should be glad about it,” Rejoice!!!

GOD, my knees are bending in supplication, my hands are lifting in expectation, my voice praising in adoration and my legs are moving in execution, I pray that you bless the undertaking that has been bestowed upon us. I have come to realize and believe that we are in spiritual warfare and were given instructions in prophecy, to pursue, overtake and conquer. As I hum a couple of powerful tunes, I understand that "this battle is not ours, it's the Lord's and "we never would have made it, without you."

Lord, I know you are not done with us yet and through this journey you have empowered us to become ministers of our experiences and as we share our testimony and spread the word, I ask that you continue to lead us down the path of righteousness and humility. I realize now that sometimes the journey is more important than the destination. For we know and understand that we are truly blessed and highly favored and for that we give you all the praise and glory.

God, you continue to be good all the time and I want to thank you for the life-changing blessings that have been delivered. I also want to thank you for the (angels) support of family and friends. God, allow me to be a beacon and if I can empower somebody as I pass along, if I can cheer somebody with a word or song, if I can show somebody he or she is travelling wrong, then my living shall not be in vain. In Jesus name I pray, Amen!!!!

by MyBizness March 4, 2011 10:01 AM

Amen! by screenname22 March 4, 2011 10:12 AM

Thanks for the offering of prayer. I find that many of us are heeding the prayer. Especially true is the part where it is written "...if I can show somebody he or she is travelling wrong". This is what Cor and some others have done. Judgment is at hand.

by SeriouslyC'mon March 4, 2011 10:52 AM

Currently and to date the facts appear to show that Alberto has abandoned the project partners. Since the last promised wire/funding date near mid-February. There has been no ‘direct’ communication from Alberto to the project partners, specifically to address the status of their expected wire transfers. Effectively, the wires have vanished/disappeared upon their execution by the issuing bank without any communication as to the specific details conveyed to any project partner.
Perhaps Alberto is emotionally disgruntled at the project partners because the project partners have hit their limit towards believing Alberto due to; his inability to bring the funding forward or that the project partners have developed a growing belief that he may have committed blatant fraud supported by the appearance of Alberto’s and COR’s real actions.
It seems reasonable to suggest that the project partners want Alberto to become successful!
All Alberto needs to do is to fully engage his supporters, (project partners) and fund this deal now. Unfortunately, Alberto has yet to provide any new and verifiable information to the project partners as to the status of the wires which are currently unaccounted for. There has yet to be any direct information from Alberto to the partners related to the actual status of the wires and/or when they will actually be in any project partner account.
This blog will have no real reason to exist upon Alberto’s funding of the project partners so the question continues and remains? Why won’t Alberto release the funds to the project partners and end this useless endeavor when he has stated that he did? As in it happened already?
Each human paints a picture of their life. It is represented by real actions. Observing this situation from the perspective of artistic expression, Alberto has painted his own image in this situation and as it pertains to the project partners. Surely Alberto is not angry with project partners who he has told and informed that their funding is currently available but... they can’t have it. Alberto just needs to release it? That would likely end this blog forever and allow the past to be the past while transitioning towards building things instead.
The notion that the any disgruntled project partner who is unhappy with the process should just request their application fee back at this point and go their own way without compensation or performance on the signed agreements is pure fantasy and retains no legal premise. If the contracts are real then they demand performance on Alberto’s part. If the contracts are not real then this is blatant fraud. No one created this fact other than Alberto and you can’t have it both ways.
There will be no idle threats levied here and we all hope that Alberto recognizes the gravity of this situation and that he alone holds the key which can prevent this from turning into a tragic scenario.
Let’s hope that Alberto finishes his painting of himself with a few beautiful brush strokes resulting in a glorious image of his success in this regard!
Good luck Alberto, we’re all rooting for you!

by sweet angel March 4, 2011 11:26 AM

mattspindlerloans
Thanks for your post. I agree with you. There are stricking similarities. It appears as thou American Paramount Financial, Marjam Capital and COR are operating for the same play book.

by summerheat March 4, 2011 11:29 AM

Sweetangel

Partners were told in a previuos Email messages that it was out of Alberto's hands to release the funds. That message wasn't that long ago. I can probably find it somewhere.
So which is it? Alberto has the power to release the funds or he doesn't? Of course many of us are of the belief there really are no funds to release in the first place.

Can't have it both ways.

by DoNotBelieve March 4, 2011 11:56 AM

Has the curtain been pulled back on the great Oz that is Cor?

by SeriouslyC'mon March 4, 2011 2:01 PM

The wool of Cor has been pulled back months ago point in general I was asked to Investigate and conduct interviews in the midwest.

It would be safe to say at this point the so called rangers that have come forth are now convinced that this is in fact a scam they have been a part of and are providing all the information they can.

Cor is runing cause of that and some other reasons I just can not disclose at this point you know on going investigation that sort of thing.

The lack of any new updates or the it's out of bertos hands is a very weak attempt to take the slag out of the picture so when the final hammer drops you know all the money was lost in the market/big money investors overseas and that there is nothing Cor could do to provent this they are a victim as well lie is what will come out next

I would also point out that Not one of the of the So Called Rangers have ever seen any real proof of funding ability or assets.

From what we are told they were given this Groove program and access to there project victims files and the alledged fundings amount and other project info. They were told to contact the victims and provide updated account and project info plus there was some sore of security agreement sent out to some or all of the victims by mail(Mail Fruad) to fill out and have notarized does and send back to the so called ranger to upload in the master Cor system does any of this BS strike a tune. This was to keep the so called rangers busy and to futher play out the scam as legit and dispell some of the worries of the victims as this appeared to be progress when in fact it was just another delay tactic nothing more.

at some point in time we here on the three sides that appear in this blog have entertained the very remote thought that this was at one time a simi real plan in it's begining but soon thur greed and some bad luck with the market turned wrong.

The low life slags here are a shining testament of just that. Sore losers and crooks plain and simple not caring who they hurt or drag down with them ready to cut and run leaving there so called ranger victims holding the bag hanging in the wind to take the fall how sorry as sad these slags are.

Oh DUDD AKA Berto and low life dirty bag slag 1# I told you boy just cause i'm from Texas and talk like this DON'T LET THE GOOD OL BOY LINGO FOOL YOU BOY I CAN AND WILL MOP THE FLOOR WITH THAT BONY ASS OF YOURS EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.

Please before you ooz back into the dark hole you come out of PLEASE GET SOME REAL MENTAL HELP AND TURN YOURSELF IN by The fly March 4, 2011 2:42 PM

DUDD

You claim that Cor tryed to fund in feb but yet all of the real project Victims got the same e-mail sighting another delay why is that and if in your own words are not the scumbag berto why it is you know who did and didn't get funded and if so why can't you show any proof of this so called funding.

I can answere that one for you there was no funding there were no funds to any project victim and there is and will never be any proof of such funding cause it never happened.

What do you have to say about that slag how come you have more information then the rest of the victims it would stand to reason if you have or had proof you would have posted it long ago instead you insult others lie and try to redirect the truth the sites that were posted here are the same scam that cor is or was running by The fly March 4, 2011 2:55 PM

Amen to that!

by SeriouslyC'mon March 4, 2011 3:12 PM

Thank ya SC

I'm no preacher I just get my boxers in a bunch when i read the pasture full of cram these slags post here and real folk are hurting by The fly March 4, 2011 3:21 PM

Hey Slag did i mispell enough words to get your attention??? by The fly March 4, 2011 3:28 PM

Your logic for arriving at the conclusion that COR is a scam is perplexing.

People haven't been funded = COR is a scam ???? Really?

Your trite opinions are most certainly not evidence of anything more than your negativity and disbelief. There has been PLENTY of information on this forum to dispel the notion that COR is anything but a legitimate entity with good intentions. The setbacks are frustrating for all parties involved while some chose to assume the setbacks must be evidence of fraud.

There are a lot of unsubstantiated accusations of fraud here on this forum. I question how many of you doubters are initiating discussions with the proper regulatory bodies. Most of you are just on here talking shit and have no intention of revealing your true identities to COR.

As far as I can see there is ZERO criminal activity to report. You will need much more than great representation and good luck in your civil matters should you pursue them, but as far as criminal matters... WHAT A JOKE YOU ARE.

There are big picture thinkers who can see the whole picture and then there are small minded people like yourself who can not see outside of their own paradigm.

by WakeUpNow March 4, 2011 3:31 PM

WUN:

I disagree completely with your assessment and suggest that you WakeUpNow. Read Sweet Angel's posts and you will find a case for fraud. In the absence of detailed, verifiable information from Cor and a delay of this length, the suspicions are valid. You are incorrect about the discussions with regulatory bodies, they just take a little time. Come back in a couple of weeks or months, you'll find that Cor didn't fund and that the feds and some state AG's are involved.

Since you posted the words below have you seen any progress?

"I am not speculating. I am providing facts.

1) COR has not funded.

2) The internet has no verifiable information on the legitimacy of COR.

3)ZERO dollars have been transferred by the Lender to the Project Partners.

4) People on this forum make inflammatory accusations without providing evidence for their claims.

5) COR will fund if legitimate

6) If it is a scam: COR and associates will suffer the consequences of the written laws.
by WakeUpNow February 21, 2011 12:14 PM"

What have you seen that would make you question those who doubt when you clearly seem to have the same questions? We are weeks, later. Any believable progress on the 72 hour banking delay?

by SeriouslyC'mon March 4, 2011 4:22 PM

WUPN

Are you an attorney now?
You are wrong about the authorities. They are very much interested and Fraud is very much on the agenda.
Federal, and States Attorney General.

Friday business day almost over another week has come and gone.

Fact: COR HAS NOT FUNDED! by DoNotBelieve March 4, 2011 4:51 PM

Well Whoever you are

The facts are long and well known I will just sight a few.

1. In the 2 or 3 years that this crime has been going on NO ONE has been funded.

2. In the 2 or 3 years that this crime has been going on NOT ONE ONCE OF PROOF HAS BEEN SHARED OR GIVEN TO ANY OF THE COUNTLESS VICTIMS BOTH CURRENT AND PAST.

3. In the 2 or 3 Years that this crime has been going on there has been and still is NO REAL WORKING ADDRESS FOR COR OR ANY OTHER Business Address under Mr Colon's Criminal organizations.

4. The Number of Victims Filing complaints are growing each day and the number of So Called Rangers are coming in to and sharing there stories to clear there names.

The facts are plain and clear and the stance you take is either that of a total blind beleiver in the tooth fairy or you are a part of this crime and with to redirect the facts.

You are standing in the crossroads of three life terms in jail for these crooks. The reason these slags or if you are a part of it too will go down so hard is in part of the condition this country is in now with jobs and money and you say that being delayed a year or too without real reasoning is no crime or the fact that there is no proof of funds or the money that was given up front.

Please spare us the goody two shoes take of this scam it is what it is a crime a scam and fraud all day long. by The fly March 4, 2011 4:56 PM

NO UPDATES FROM ALBERTO SINCE MARCH 2ND LATE PM
NO UPDATES FROM RANGER SINCE MARCH 3RD AFTER 12:00 AM
Commenting on the one from Alberto!

It would seem we are at a Friday again and no funding. Now I can not say if COR will fund. I don't believe anyone can with a certainty to many variables from both sides. I know I still hold to the belief they will fund. But, as you have followed in my post I did do some digging and I have found that a call to the authorities does get some very pointed questions ask and no answers to your questions, but that's the government. Now we all know that if you put a frog in a pan of boiling water it will sit there and cook. So are we frogs because the so called scam has been slowly growing hotter. I don't know we all have to individually decide what it is we wish to do. So I say good luck to all no matter which way you decide to go. Me I still want COR to fund. Simply because of my hard head and stubborn up bringing I guess. Hell I've gone through worst then losing an application fee. Somethings you lose you can not put a dollar value on them. Just the hope and dream of the possibility of funding is worth the initial investment.
So smile look your loved ones in the face, tell them that you love them and go on with life. Which ever way you decide because life is to short. by screenname22 March 4, 2011 5:06 PM

SC'mon
Good call on WakeUpNow's post from February 21st.

by DoNotBelieve March 4, 2011 5:07 PM

Sorry about the typo's I was trying to choke down a chili cheese dog and type (LMAO) and it was good eatting I might add along with this Ice cold dads root beer yummy

DoNotBeleive

Is this going as i prodicted it would the lnes of communication would start to break down you would hear less and less until poof all gone.

These rats are jumping ship and crawling back into there holes some ooz in. But the facts is that there are running scared cause any So Called UPDATE they put out now will be added to the growing indictment list.

Art (NOT A REAL ATTORNEY)Rivera has enough smarts to pull those plus they can no longer trust any of the rangers cause they don't know which ones are working with the feds.

Y'all know in some of those movies and if y'all are old enough the old boy standin there with a sign THE END IS NEAR well thats the sign Cor is seeing (LOL) by The fly March 4, 2011 5:11 PM

SC22

You are right about one thing, "Life is too short."
Look at that poor High School basket ball player who hit the winning shot for his team and then collapses and dies. A young life gone.

However, COR needs to pay for all the lives they affected by their Fraud.

by DoNotBelieve March 4, 2011 5:15 PM

Fly

It is going like that so far.
I know my friend has not heard from his Ranger and has been bugging his Broker to death to see if he heard anything. Like I said, nothing since Wednesday.

by DoNotBelieve March 4, 2011 5:19 PM

@WakeUpNow
You have awaken hell. LOL! by Conway20 March 4, 2011 5:25 PM

Here we go again. Guys this is not a court room. This is not a trial. It is a blog. Where anybody can come here and express themselves. It is anonymous, which means that anybody can be anybody and express without consequences. Why is it that the 4 naysayers, think they own this site? It is like a lynch mob (of which only 2 are directly involved). Either agree with them or suffer their wrath and ridicule. Perfect example was sweet angel’s post, where the 4 of you thought it was great and then read it again and realized that person is a believer. Then the 4 of you go on the attack. The other was WakeUpNow who was great when he was keeping an open mind and thinking negative. He or she cahnges their mind and lets jump down his or her's throat. by mdudd March 4, 2011 5:27 PM

Hummmmmm

I No longer see taunts about those that have decided to file there complaints and what the Feds would or wouldn't be interested in I now see very passionate summeries of if Cor is or isn't and that those Bad old non beleivers are coming down too hard on mr. Colon and that Cor has have many legit reasons for there delays.

But I have not seen not one line of proof or real reasoning as to why they have stolen these good folks money and lied to them for years knowing that the most limited computer literate of victims could stumble thur the internet and find out that everything they have said and posted was and is a lie.

I can't foer the life of me understand why they would think that all of the folks that they stole from were deaf dumb and blind and even those that are and were could and still smell the rotten rats that those dirtbags are.

by The fly March 4, 2011 5:30 PM

Hey Slag

boy Come up from that dope high y'all are on. There ain't no attack here.

Thats you and the other slags thing. But if you call alerting other victims and exchanging information on this fraud and the criminal organization known as Cor is going on the attack you have been smoking that stuff waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to long.

I would suggest that you get help and a real good attorney you are going to need both.

Puerto Rico

Hey slag enjoy all the toy's and good digs and food you have been for so long cause where your going the rooms ain't that big the food dang sure ain't that good and as for the toy's well thats a personal thing I will won't go into only you will know that one (LMAO)

I don't see the same fire in the blog from the slags as I did a few weeks ago hummmmmmmmmmm whats the matter Slags the law barkin at y'alls heels ??????????? by The fly March 4, 2011 5:40 PM

Oh Mr. Ass Clown or your other personality, Dumb Ass,
You come here and claim you did this elaborate investigation. All you have done is spread rumors, lies, and tales of your fantasy life that you wish you had. Meanwhile, you claim to work for the government, welfare and food stamps don't count.
By the way, you claim to be this great investigator with federal clearance, come find me, I am in the US.
Fact is the fly is no different than any other jealous individual out there. You wish you were involved, because deep down you know it is going to happen (funding). You claimed over a month ago that this whole thing was over. COR individuals were going to jail. National News Coverage, etc.. Did not happen. I spoke with federal authorities (family members) and there is nothing. I also have family members that are local law enforcement and they would NEVER get involved. They would hand it over to the FED's, due to it being multi-jurisdictional.

So far the truth is that COR did attempt to fund. That is a fact. Did it work? NO. Not everyone was funded.
Fact is they are working on correcting, may have corrected any and all issues, and are getting ready to try again.
Fact. No email updates have been released on what was wrong and what happened probably never will.
Fact. I do not want any email updates. I just want it corrected so we can get fully funded.
Fact. The naysayers have only one thing left to say COR HAS NOT FUNDED.
There is a different from reality and your delusions.
Fact is there are a lot of Project Partners out there who believe in COR.
Fact. There are only a couple of naysayers.

I have been involved a long time and have talked with other project partners. That is how I get my info. Phone calls, emails with print screens, see those are facts, not post on anonymous blogs where people can fantasize and make themselves seem important.
See you forgot, nobody invited you to join this blog. I know it is your patriotic duty or some other reason. Fact is all you have done is get the simple minded believing in you.

by mdudd March 4, 2011 5:45 PM

Mr.Ass Clown,
feel better now that I addressed you by mdudd March 4, 2011 5:46 PM

LOL! That's one stupid person. Him and his alter ego DoNotBelieve or DoNotBeleive. by Conway20 March 4, 2011 5:49 PM

Funny how all these people who left the blog are back.
How many said, "This is my last time on here." Can't let it go!

DUDD

How many states do you have Federal Authorities family members in??? All 50, that is some large family!
You don't have any in this state. They ARE INTERESTED!
So keep up the front and kidding yourself.

Conway!
Fly and I are one...No!
We don't operate like all of you and the many COR screen names!
The only stupid one here is you...Oh wait I take that back there are more...You know who you are...Lumped together...COR will fund believers!

by DoNotBelieve March 4, 2011 6:02 PM

Let’s say we ALL believe that COR will not fund. Now what? by Conway20 March 4, 2011 6:08 PM

DUDD
By the way, I never said, "Sweetangels post was great."
I actually questioned him on a fact, that Alberto was in charge of releasing the funds, when an earlier Email (from the Rangers), stating he was not in charge of releasing the funds. I asked which was it, you can't have it both ways? But of course in COR fashion that was never addressed! Same old BS! by DoNotBelieve March 4, 2011 6:12 PM

The argument is not whether the state authorities will be interested. A road cop is concerned about speeding traffic, and drug cop is concerned about drug dealers, a politician isn't necessarily interested in either. A banker is interested in both.

Conway
I think you are right. We go to the authorities, that is what. Like some have already done. by DoNotBelieve March 4, 2011 6:13 PM

Hey Mdudd
When are you going to mail out those checks and stop messing around?

I asked you because you seem to know more about COR "inside" operations than any body else

by summerheat March 4, 2011 6:16 PM

@WakeUpNow
I could not believe with you more. Two are definitely small minded and the other two are just confused. by Conway20 March 4, 2011 6:17 PM

WUPN

The authorities ARE INTERESTED...It is a matter of time.
I saw the paperwork, it is incriminating. Maybe you can fool your family friends in your state...But here it ain't going to fly!

by DoNotBelieve March 4, 2011 6:17 PM

SC22

I know what you will do...You can see how everybody looks in orange, maybe you too. by DoNotBelieve March 4, 2011 6:19 PM

@DoNotBelieve/fly

Was it this past Monday that your friend was to go? by Conway20 March 4, 2011 6:19 PM

C20

I did not actually tell you when he was to go...And I don't think you need to know that anyway.
Why don't you as DUDD he seems to have all the connections! by DoNotBelieve March 4, 2011 6:22 PM

Well guys it is Friday night...Have plans...It's been real.
Catch you later!

by DoNotBelieve March 4, 2011 6:26 PM

He is calling him to find out exactly what he has to do and what documenation he needs to show. So he will be joining SeriouslyC'mon in his efforts to expose this fraud/scam!

by DoNotBelieve February 24, 2011 4:21 PM

Can we all hum the Jeopardy tune in A sharpe.
Da Da Da Da Da Da Daaaa

What's taking him so long? I will go after he does. This I vow. by Conway20 March 4, 2011 6:45 PM

DoNotBelieve is off to the National Negative Naysayers Convention. She is the President. by ElmosWorld March 4, 2011 6:54 PM

This is bigger than us, project partners, be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid of them. The Lord will go ahead of you. He will neither fail you nor forsake you.

Do not throw away this confident trust in the Lord, no matter what happens. Remember the great reward it brings you! Patient endurance is what you need now, so you will continue to do God’s will. Then you receive all that he has promised. We are not those who turn their backs on God and seal their fate. We have faith that assures our salvation.

Faith is the confident assurance that what we hope for is going to happen. It is the evidence of things we cannot yet see. Trust in the Lord with all your heart; do not depend on your own understanding. Seek his will in all you do, and he will direct your paths.

by MyBizness March 4, 2011 6:55 PM

To All Concerned Readers:

We are all interested in obtaining the truth, hence my name, almost all the postings we are reading are useless material and simple minded comments. None of them helps anyone with getting answers or understand what really is going on. I do not know if funding will take place, the active partners hope it does and soon. What would be helpful here is factual information. Here is what one can verify on their own if they wish to:

1. Artemio Revera is an attorney who pasted the bar examine in the State of Maryland. If you are interested there is another body in Maryland (not the State Bar) that can verify this. Please call the State Bar and they will give you the organization for verifying ones status as an attorney and if there have been any complaints or disciplinary action. As of five months ago there were no complaints or issues involving Mr. Rivera. There is another attorney with a similar name who pratices in Washington DC and Puerto Rico. This is not the same attorney.

2. If one wants to call the local police departments in Villa Park or in the Hoffman Estates areas you will find no complaints against Cor Development or Alberto Colon. This again was verified about 5 months ago. The police officer that gave this information was a 20 year veteran of the department and knows the areas very well and if any nagative comments were placed she would have known about them. She indicated that police departments do not give out information on any active investigations. She gave me the information only because I asked her about any complaints not any active investigations.

3. The Better Business Bureau in the local area stated that Cor Development and Alberto Colon have a spotless reputation with no complaints from anyone being filed.

4. Several calls have been placed to the local FBI office in Illinois and on these calls they informed this party that the FBI does not and will not answer any questions about an individual or business if there is an active investigation ongoing. If there is an investigation on Cor Development you will not hear that from the FBI. Anyone claiming there is a federal or state investigation must be questioned as to their comments. The federal and state bodies must be careful because if they comment and it turns out they are wrong from the information they get from a complaining party then that could do major damage to an ongoing business. Defamation is one legal action governments do not want to be part of.

5. There are pages of additional items that could be listed about the falsehoods posted by many readers on this site.

It is my wish that parties posting anything, that they claim is happening to please give references and footnotes to your comments so they can be understood and verified. What we need here is the truth about Cor Development and a potential funding.

These comments that I have posted are coming from someone who has had major issues with Cor Development and the way they communicate and handle their business. I am not a supporter of Cor Development, but want to get to the truth with facts. I ask you to do the same and make this line of inquiry meaningful.

by Seeker of the Truth March 4, 2011 6:56 PM

Seeker of the Truth,
Thank you for the update. Now be prepared to get ridiculed by the 4 non believers.

by mdudd March 4, 2011 7:43 PM

Actually 2 non believers. 1 is 2. by Conway20 March 4, 2011 7:57 PM

I think you guys watch way too much Glenn Beck. by WakeUpNow March 4, 2011 9:52 PM

This blog was started by a person using the screen name Seekeroftruth back in August of last year. Go back and re-read his posts as it's clear that he figured out the scam then. It's disgusting and cowardice how Cor and the scammers continually try to deceive by the use of similar screen names and unsupported information.

Here's the original post:
Has anyone ever funded a loan under the Joint Venture program with Cor Development Group out of Cook County, Illinois ?
by seekeroftruth August 13, 2010 10:16 PM

When the guys with the badge slaps the handcuffs on you, I dare you to look him in the eye and tell him that he doesn't have the authority. It will give him a great laugh all the way downtown. Your belief that the authorities won't take you down shows just how delusional you are.

The new Seeker of the Truth made some questionable points. In items #2 and #4 he intimated that there are no investigations against COR yet also correctly stated that the authorities couldn't and wouldn't tell him if there were. Nicely worded, but think about what was said. He said that he wouldn't have been told if there was an investigation and he is using this as a "fact" about there being no investigation. Hardly the case.

Better Business Bureau? Comical. Google Ripoffreport and you'll find similar complaints about Alberto.

Dudd, if you think that Sweet Angel is a believer, wait a few more days without funding. That guy has a firm grasp of the facts and the law. The repeated statements that the authorities won't get involved hasn't been true thus far, and won't be true when he reaches his deadline. It appeared to me that he was waiting to confirm a lack of funding this week. We'll have to see what he does and if he chooses to share. There are so very many that don't believe. Many have been taken to the point where they don't have any option but to believe. When the reality of no funding sets in, these individuals will have nothing more to lose by coming after those that posted inaccurate information, sent inaccurate e-mails, and personally vouched for a scam.

I believe firmly in the statement made by Alerbto/Mybiz:

"Do not throw away this confident trust in the Lord, no matter what happens. Remember the great reward it brings you! Patient endurance is what you need now, so you will continue to do God’s will. Then you receive all that he has promised. We are not those who turn their backs on God and seal their fate. We have faith that assures our salvation."

I trust in the LORD and know that he has opened my eyes. I hope that HE will do the same for you. It's blasphemy that Cor equates itself with GOD's will. One day you will understand that he was trying to show you the error of your ways and the wickedness of Cor. I am confident that you will pay for your crimes in this life as well as the next.

I promise that it will be hell on earth until you face GOD and try to explain to him what you have done.

by SeriouslyC'mon March 4, 2011 11:26 PM

Currently, there is still hold out that Alberto, Art Rivera and the entire COR staff are honest, good people and this program is incredible, brilliant and all the project partners get funded soon. That’s the desire! Isn’t it?

Should this; Alberto/COR issue advance to the tragic phase, (and I so hope it does not) it seems reasonable that the first thing to proceed might be to; Provide a legal brief directly to the Federal Bureau of Investigations for review based upon the facts to date and without any color commentary that may cloud the straight facts from a project partner.

No one has any question as to the character background of Alberto any COR employee, (and affiliates) as we assume the standard of excellence to be upheld by Alberto and COR. That’s why the partners signed contracts with him!

Defamation of character only occurs when someone seeks to defame a person’s character.

Merely presenting the facts can not be construed as a defamation of character.

To date the only person who may have defamed Alberto B. Colon …may have been ’Alberto B. Colon’! But there is still some time on this so hold out at least a couple of days!

Ironically, it is the partners which are on Alberto’s side!

We all want to see Alberto succeed yet facts remain unaltered and as described in my 1st and 2nd post.

If Alberto decides to force the hand of the project partners by further withholding funding it seems as if the process might rapidly escalate as follows;

a) Submit legal brief to FBI to determine viability and magnitude of potential negative financial impact on those partners who participated in the COR contracts.
b) Should an indictment become issued then the FBI would create a portal on their website for COR Employees, Rangers and COR Project Partners to connect with FBI field agent throughout the U.S. located at different cities for debriefing sessions.
c) In this manner, (and only if it would become deemed that Alberto and COR employee’s would be proven outright frauds to force this initiation) project partners would have a safe haven to communicate under a verifiable FBI protected program.
d) Should this turn tragic this has great potential of intimidation by COR directly towards the project partners and therefore may require the aid of a formal FBI coordinated effort to protect the partners while gathering information within the context of a safe haven in each participating city.
e) It is likely that an FBI trustee would be selected to attempt to collect the application fees directly from Alberto B. Colon to protect the project partners if the money still exist? This would be to further protect project partners from interstate/rico crime intimidation tactics and allow the FBI to assess the magnitude of the financial loss and impact on participating project partners.
f) This strategy has been developed to insulate victims of white collar crime from the intimidation tactics from a potential perpetrator that may attempt to isolate a victim and utilize legal banter about arbitration and fee exit strategy on the eve of funding after two years of waiting about a contract that may have been premised solely upon fraud.
g) Prevents the perpetrator from continuing the pattern of damage and like suffering to others.
h) Allows all the project partners to unite, completely protected while disclosing only the facts to the FBI and provide a real honest tally as to how many potential victims may have been affected. This is the really the only way that the FBI can safely protect the injured while totaling the actual number of victims and associated monies which were provided to COR.
i) Keeps the media out of the picture as the FBI won’t disclose any details until formal matters are determined. This actually protects COR and the project partners.
j) Should a criminal case be developed solely upon the facts to date then it would likely be prosecuted by USDOJ due to the potential size and magnitude of the case.
k) If a guilty judgment would become achieved against Alberto, COR employees and Affiliates by the USDOJ under criminal fraud then the partners may elect to sue the same in civil court for lost performance on the contracts and for additional monetary losses.

That said I’m sure Alberto’s going to work this out by Monday!

Have an excellent weekend!

by sweet angel March 5, 2011 12:04 AM

Wow!! SeriouslyC, you are as lost as DNB and the rest of them that are so blinded by rage you have lost faith and replaced it with hate. Anybody that says they have faith and love God, but hold hate in their heart is lying. It is impossible to please God without faith.

Furthermore, I am no more Alberto, than I’m President Obama. I just started posting (referencing Proverbs 26:5, when arguing with fools, be sure to answer their foolish arguments, or they will become wise in their own estimation.) to this blog a week ago, but like you, what else is there to do while I’m waiting to be funded and finally, before you judge, the beggar that approaches you on the street, may be an angel.

I repeat, my faith is in God, COR is only a vessel that was introduced to us for the purpose of providing whatever they’re here to provide. And since I believe that to be the case, I would hope Alberto has more important things to do than wasting time on a blog.

From the road my partners and I traveled just to get our project that will help so many, this far is truly a blessing. I believe we are in spiritual warfare and the enemy will work through anyone. I also believe that this battle is not ours, it’s the Lord.

DNB referred to being spiritual as crap, as an angle. For me, I’m a minister of my experience and being spiritual is never an angle. It’s believing in something bigger than me, it’s speaking as if it were, its faith and if you truly trust in the Lord then you know the devil is a liar, God is good all the time. Therefore, let it go and let God have his way.

Sweet Angel, thank you for putting it in perspective legally, explaining it in a detailed sensible way rather than emotionally and providing a possible remedy or recourse. Watch out though, you probably will be accused of being Cor’s attorney. Like you, I’m hoping and praying for Cor’s success rather than their failure.

by MyBizness March 5, 2011 7:44 AM

You boys were busy last night!

Conway:
My friend has met with the authorities. I don't need to get on here and give you all the details. You vowed to go next...So I guess it is your turn!
Why would you think a phone call by anyone to the FBI or State authorities was going to get you information on an ongoing investigation. Check with DUDD he has "Family connections", maybe he can help you out.
Besides not everybody on this blog lives in the state of Illinois. That leaves you how many more? But if you count as well as Cherub, you might get that one wrong.
Do you need the Jeporady tune for your answer?
BTW: No double screen names for me.

MyBizness:

Never said, Faith was crap, your words not mine. Check post Feb.27, I said, "Distract from the real issues",
it was an angle.
COR as vessel of Faith...Get real! How could any of you have Faith in something that has shown you nothing for over two years. I already know you will come back with it is blind Faith...It is Blind alright!

Check post Feb. 27 11:17 MyBizness's Qoute
"No more time for blogging. This is my last post time to start working on my project..."
Wonder what happened to that??????????????????

Elmo: You are still a Muppet!

Multiple Screen Names:
You all remind me of a Tag Team, one comes on, one leaves, next one comes back. It is quite amusing!

Seekerofthetruth is back also. I like where you said in your post that, "Mr Rivera pasted his bar exam in the sate of Maryland." That is probably more like what happened, he cut and pasted it!

by DoNotBelieve March 5, 2011 10:18 AM

Follow Up:

Searched the Maryland Bar Association. Mr Rivera is not a member. So where is it he does practice Law?

by DoNotBelieve March 5, 2011 11:03 AM

DNB,
Here is your info
Click Herecheck with your friend on the address... by mdudd March 5, 2011 11:11 AM

Further Follow UP:

Artemio Rivera has a PO Box address in Puerto Rico
as his main office address...Kind of strange don't you think for the high and mighty Attorney for COR!
No wonder the Fly keeps calling him Puerto Rico!

Interesting to say the least!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by DoNotBelieve March 5, 2011 11:17 AM

DUDD

The state of Illinois, Hoffman Estates, in particular says different. It lists the PO box in PR by DoNotBelieve March 5, 2011 11:21 AM

DNB,
You stumbled on a actual fact, maybe there is more then one Artemio Rivera. See Mr. ass clown gets the same info you get. From the Internet. Not from some CIA or FBI Database...look at the link I posted...Check the address with your friend. He will verify.... by mdudd March 5, 2011 11:23 AM

If you would read my post, the attorney in Puerto Rico is NOT the same attorney for Cor. I have spoken with the one in Puerto Rico. He works in both Washington DC and Puerto Rico. I repeat, he is NOT the same one as Cor's Artemio Rivera. Here is simple case of posting information that is wrong. Much like DNB stating Artemio is not an attorey. Thanks for the help mdudd.

As for POBs, many large companies use POBs for their mail that does not mean they are not real and don't have a physical office. How many large companies you pay your bils to use POBs for their mail. Answer, most do. Does that mean they are not a real company and are frauds?

This is why it is so important to state facts not the lazy comments that can harm people and mislead others.
Lets stick to the facts and leave the lies for another site. by Seeker of the Truth March 5, 2011 11:30 AM

Check post: Drop the spiritual crap you are not my priest! Don't pray for me, I don't want it from you of all people.
Religion is personal, it doesn't belong here. Drop the compassionate charade, it doesn't become you. People don't need your sermonizing!

by DoNotBelieve February 26, 2011 10:37 AM

This is what happen, Proverbs 26:5, when arguing with fools, be sure to answer their foolish arguments, or they will become wise in their own estimation.

by MyBizness March 5, 2011 11:36 AM

When the fly mentioned Puerto Rico, the way I took it he was really referring to the "RACKETEER INFLUENCED AND CORRUPT ORGANIZATIONS" act, and was said that way for humour.

by summerheat March 5, 2011 11:47 AM

So you are trying to say there are two Artemio Rivera, since it is such a common name. Right!

My Biz what happened to you declaring your last posting on Feb 27 to go work on your project? And yet you are still here!

by DoNotBelieve March 5, 2011 11:48 AM

Sheat

I think he addressed him as Puerto Rico. It doesn't really matter. That is what the state of Illinois listed for him.

Called the phone number listed in VA, it is a cell phone with the same message all cell phone users can have, this number is not available etc.

Manta has his business in VA listed as a Business Consulting Business not a law firm, company staffing of one, him that is it. by DoNotBelieve March 5, 2011 12:07 PM

Puerto Rico had nothing to do with the nation. He was making reference to the RICO act with humor.

If COR had funded you would all be gone working on your prjects, like MyBiz said he was going to do. Funny thing about that...It didn't happen!

I don't really care about Rivera anyway, weather is bad, I was bored, so I thought I would do some internet surfing. No big deal, he can be whomever he wants to be.
No skin off my back. by DoNotBelieve March 5, 2011 1:34 PM

Yeh, I know projects.

by DoNotBelieve March 5, 2011 1:36 PM

Sweet Angel:

After my meetings, I was left with the understanding that a person (Ranger or Project Partner) who communicated information that they knew to be false (i.e. I got funded, funding will start in 72 hours, etc.) or stated that they had personally seen documentation or met certain individuals when the hadn't would be excluded from the safe haven about which you spoke. A person communicating items as "facts" when he has no backing for his claims can be charged with conspiracy to commit fraud along with Alberto. The same case could be made if one or two individuals created numerous screen names or ficticious persons in support of a fraud in an effort to continue the scheme. As you are a person who appears to be knowledgable in the law, I am interested in your opinion.

by SeriouslyC'mon March 5, 2011 2:03 PM

In my opinion the events to date between COR, COR employee’s and COR affiliates provides substantial proof of the potential of wrong doing! I am emphasizing the word, ‘potential’ to provide Alberto the ability to prove he was right when he funds now.
As the ramifications of this turning tragic are so severe upon Alberto and his team we just must believe that he will right the ship and resolve this by early next week?
However, if there became the need to submit a legal brief to the FBI it seems reasonable to suggest that there would be an indictment based solely on the facts to date.
The importance of using the FBI program is that it would provide all the built in safety aspects to protect both the partners and COR during any preliminary investigation while determining if a case for Criminal Fraud has been established by the actions of Alberto, COR, COR employee’s and COR Affiliates.
If Alberto signed contracts and took money, did not perform on the contracts and had no method of performance on the contracts when he signed the agreements he may have committed fraud.
The good news is that this is a very simple case with much of the key aspects clearly defined without any clouding of the issues because the issues are so straight forward and easy to understand for FBI investigators. This is not a he said she said case that requires intensive scrutiny on every missed funding deadline or communication deadline. The facts and patterns of Alberto’s actions make it relatively easy to establish fraud. Doesn’t even matter if someone said they got funded or not because it remains as hearsay without any established facts or supporting documents. Alberto has abandoned the project partners since mid-February without any ‘detailed’ communication related to the issue of the wires which are still floating in banking space.
That’s why we are so certain that Alberto will come through soon! The case against him and COR employee’s is too enormous and dire to have any other conclusion then funding.

by sweet angel March 5, 2011 3:51 PM

Please everyone as I have stated time and time before I can not disclose direct information inthis on going investigation But I am glad the clue I left was noticed.

And you are very close in your take on the facts as to Art (NOT A REAL ATTORNEY)Rivera.

And yes those that have made claims to either been funded or have inside information close are too themselfs committing a crime.

The slags thought they could run this scam from the internet without fear of being caught but what they forgot was the cyber laws have changed and after bernie well it's a whole new ball game.

Oh wakeup I was'nt talking about RICO I know the difference.

But i am glad that you all are putting on your huntin dog suits (BIG ASS TEXAS SMILE)and sniffin out what we have already found out

THE FLY

BUZZ BUZZ by The fly March 5, 2011 4:04 PM

Okay

Lets clear up a few things angel

1. The Criminal organization Known as Cor is operated by 4 to 5 dirtbags

2. There are no other employees of this criminal organization

3. The fact that the victims were given in writting and by mouth funding dates and time tables this is a clear case of fraud and has already been added to the mounting cases being filed.

The hope of being funded at this point in time is just that hope. There is NO MONEY TO BE FUNDED there was never any money to be founded just spent between the the crooks that makeup the Cor Criminal Organization.

That is just what Cor is known as in the eyes of the law and the Dirtbag Crooks that leach off the good folks that once beleived in it's claims are the true victims.

by The fly March 5, 2011 4:17 PM

Hey DUDD/Slag

I am sure you know what i mean when I address you as a low life pond scum sucking dirtbag slag that oozes out from your dark and wet place to crap words out of your mouth But I would like you to explain the ass clown??

1. Does it mean a clown that has a ass or an ass that has a clown

I just wanted to get your meaning of it to better understand your modivation when you are addressing me.

Hows the weather there Slag y'all enjoying the sun and surf well don't get too confortable that fun in the sun will be replaced with a one hour a day stroll in the 12 x 12 x 12 excerise court.

Okay I'll say this again I have stated on more then one post I can not give certain details in an on going investigationn and I have also stated that the FBI would not comment as well but if you had some information or whated to file a complaint that they would do an intake and pass it to the investigative agents.

Now to address to whom I work for well wouldn't you like to know you dirtbag slag.

All I have posted here is true and can be veriflied all I have posted here has been 100% facts

Non of the claims you or any of the countless other screen names you and the other slag have gone under comes anywhere close to the truth.

You did slip up earlier slag and stated ( What if this is a scam catch me if you can)You see slag you guys are all the same while you are riding high on the lies and pain you have caused others your as happy a a hog in fresh mud. But the moment you get the cover pulled off the scam y'all get all up in arms and try to redirect the truth.

It's over there are too many folks on both sides that know whats going on and the fact is y'all are running hard.

Oh yes there are many Companies that use P.O Boxes But they also have real addresses to back those boxes up and they also have real people to answer the phones and they have verifliable contact information and assets. Cor and the slag/Dirtbags don't have jack just BS

by The fly March 5, 2011 4:54 PM

WakeUpNow
Now who looks like the Moron?

Thanks Fly, I knew you were not referring to the RICO act, but to Art(not a real attorney) Rivera.
You addressed Puerto Rico more than once. These guys just didn't get it.

by DoNotBelieve March 5, 2011 5:02 PM

Hey Slags this is funny y'all are hoping and praying that I post something from this on going case so y'all can site a mistrail for dosclosure of classified Information in an on going investigation.

Y'all or funny run slags run !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As I posted Mr. Art (NOT A REAL ATTORNEY) Does not have a LTP and any and all documents that have his name on as the legal rep for Cor is not worth the paper it's written on.

Hey Slags that was a freebie that in your words come be looked up on the internet by The fly March 5, 2011 5:06 PM

Well I can only leave a scrap here and there that won't cause any problems.

But not to worry it's all closing in on these slags and if you notice they never commented on it either but I am sure they will try to redirect the truth again.

I see DUDD/Slag #1 has decided to pop in from his latest dope induced encounter to say who I am not. Oh wasn't it just a few blogs earlier that they stated that the feds would not be interested and all I stated wasn't true Hummmm by The fly March 5, 2011 5:19 PM

FYI

The partners are getting restless. Apparently they have not heard from Alberto since Wednesday, after promising an update on thursday.
The Rangers, well at least this Ranger has been bombarded with calls and emails from the partners. So he decided to put out an email of his own. Basically saying this. Must be careful not to word for word it.
The calls and emails he has been receiving all have to do with Alberto's lack of follow up....he said he would send on Thursday. This Ranger has not heard from COR since Wednesday email.
Supposedly Alberto has been working 24 hrs a day. Yeh right he probably got locked in the bank!
There is more, but I am sure some of you so called partners have already seen it.

by DoNotBelieve March 5, 2011 5:34 PM

Angel

No matter what berto trys Monday the facts are just that claims have already been filed losses have already been encured and collections in the amount of over 290 Million have been entered.

Mr. Colon (berto) Colon and others

Have operated a criminal organization to defraud there victims of there moneies with promises of 100s of millions of dollars within a certain time frame sited in the contracts signed and filed money was exchanged hands which clearly puts the ball in Cors court to proform or show damn good reason why not. The fact that that has not happen and the continues delays and excuses plus the fact that there are no real locations for cor or any proof of funds or Cor's ability to aquire said funds is proof of a crime comitted.

The Criminal Organization known as Cor will face many different charges.

Those that have received there intake fee back are still victims and have cause to file for losses of this crime.

Do Not allow the slags here to redirect the topic with insults and BS you all are on the right road and are getting closer to the truth.

I have been told that another so Called ranger has been interviewed. I won't say from where but it was a very interesting interview I am told

by The fly March 5, 2011 5:43 PM

Hey DoNotbeleive

Maybe the slags here could give the So Called Ranger and other Victims an Update seeing as they are funded and so close to the All Powerful berto and inner workings of Cor and it's vast cash of Billions of dollars.

Hey I've got an Idea why don't you have your friend to have the Cor rep log in to this site and ask the slags boys direct also point out that they were funded and ask why them and no one else then ask the rep to make a call or walk into the local office of the FBI and share the information they have and clear there names also have that rep tell another rep and another rep and lets see what happens next.

Like I told the Slags theres a turd floater of badges and charges headed there way real soon by The fly March 5, 2011 6:09 PM

Wakeup

It would be refreshing if in fact you did what your screen name states or I would take this is just another in the long line of screen names that have been rolled out.

But to the point I am sure that If Mr Buffett were to post the amazing lies and pasture load of BS that you and the other slags at Cor and the other scams that are under the umbrella of Mr Al-Bert-Toe going to jail for a looooooooong time Colon and Art (NOT A REAL ATTORNY)Rivera have I would venture he would be in the same boat But he is not and one under TFOIA look up any and all of his personal and private holdings also if needed so could any other agency But that ain't the case with you slags and your sad attempt to complare a legit person or company has blown back in your face as all of the BS that you have put out over the years.

Boy this ain't Checkmate as y'all were high fivin one anothers sorry excuses of life this Is END GAME !!!!!!

DUH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by The fly March 5, 2011 7:43 PM

Dominican Republic Banko by The fly March 5, 2011 7:45 PM

Angel

No matter what berto trys Monday the facts are just that claims have already been filed losses have already been encured and collections in the amount of over 290 Million have been entered.

Mr. Colon (berto) Colon and others

Have operated a criminal organization to defraud there victims of there moneies with promises of 100s of millions of dollars within a certain time frame sited in the contracts signed and filed money was exchanged hands which clearly puts the ball in Cors court to proform or show damn good reason why not. The fact that that has not happen and the continues delays and excuses plus the fact that there are no real locations for cor or any proof of funds or Cor's ability to aquire said funds is proof of a crime comitted.

The Criminal Organization known as Cor will face many different charges.

Those that have received there intake fee back are still victims and have cause to file for losses of this crime.

Do Not allow the slags here to redirect the topic with insults and BS you all are on the right road and are getting closer to the truth.

I have been told that another so Called ranger has been interviewed. I won't say from where but it was a very interesting interview I am told

Don't let that bush wacker pull your leg. there all the same person none other then (AL-BERT-TOE) and as for the 50 Million I can confirm over 10 million in Collections and 320 Million in Civil suits. just trackin that ol boy has been a chore but we got that sum bith now. at this point in the chase it's a fact that your partners money is no more but. there has been alot of banking activity with Mr berto of late. Hang in there partner this round up is coming to a end soon thats for sure
by The fly January 30, 2011 6:29 PM

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Which one is it? by mdudd March 5, 2011 9:02 PM

PUERTO RICO was in reference to the RICO act. Not Puerto Rico the nation. You can say whatever you want to cover your tracks after the fact, you are desperately reaching to find reason to attack me. You're a fucking moron and you're misleading people. Your facts are not facts. Nothing more than speculation. You can't even keep numbers straight because you're just an instigator and have even less invested in this than I do.

Dominican Republic Banko ????!

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???!!

by WakeUpNow March 5, 2011 9:39 PM

@WakeUpNow
Don’t allow that fool to make you step out of your comfort zone. There is only one person that has that much hatred for COR that understands that dumb jackass. Keep your cool. by Conway20 March 5, 2011 10:25 PM

here is another one..

Looking thur our files and reports. The Alberto B. Colon Empire was taking money all last year up until Dec of 2010. Was our last report the boys in out east get closed lip about there on going investigations and just break off a chew or two for us unenformed country boys. I am afraid your friend's money is no more. The time to get out has come and past sorry to say all indications point to Al-bert-Toe pulling eveerything out planing to make a run. We just got word of two more collection agengies hunting for berto and Cor. One for 5 Million and the other for 2 Million. Look it's plan and simple this is a scam and if your friend can't see that then it's too late for him/her. No money to give out never was never will be. Just bill collectors lined up to collect what's left and civil suit's that will never be paided off just written off as loss
by The fly February 4, 2011 5:12 PM

Just was watching CNN. Still no arrests made. I wonder Why? Mr. Ass Clown, this is going on 6 weeks now, why is no one behind bars yet???? You better get crackin... by mdudd March 5, 2011 10:54 PM

For Alberto to have purposefully stated that funding would be wired during Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years Eve of 2010 while all the time having full knowledge that he had nothing to fund with constitutes…evil intent beyond the fraud. Let’s hope that there is enough time for Alberto to show a different end for this story?
Imagine the pain and suffering that the project partners have felt each time when Alberto made promises and then left the project partners high and dry…each time! During the entire 2010 Holiday Season!
Alberto is batting 1000, in the negative -1000. Nothing Alberto has said regarding funding and dates for wire transfers has come to light. Is he a lunatic or a saint or con?
The matter at hand is a significant matter and it truly seems as if Alberto feels as if he is immune or untouchable or not responsible for the outcome.
None of the project partners will be asking for their application fee’s back at this point especially after Alberto had issued the latest promissory emails to pay the project partners, starting mid-February.
This is what the end game feels like;
It’s not always pretty but justice will be achieved!

Now to clear up the air slags(Dirtbags)The heat is on so to speak and you slags are getting uneasy I can see.

Now Once again I know just what I was hinting to when I said puerto rico and yes I did bring up (RICO) which will affect all of your sorry little lives.

Well to address Slag #1

beleive me slag when the hammer drops doown you won't be watching CNN you will be one of the dirtbags being hauled away on CNN.

I see y'all can cut and paste as well and yep this rodeo is coming to a end very soon.

I would venture to say there will be no more UPDATES cause there is no money and to avoid anymore charges being added in the event that there are it will be an endless line of total BS and delay. I would suspect the Criminal Organization known as Cor Headed by Mr Al-bert-Toe(DUDD and other SN)Colon are closing shop the fact you dirtbags are still here is meaningless but the fact that there has been little or no word from berto the rangers we have spoken to havent heard a word as well.

I ask you DUDD to try to get Art to go on a heart healthy diet OMG he could stand to drop a few I know I can't talk but I have cut out some of the fatty foods. And as for you son please put down the drugs for awhile.

Get some real help turn yourselfs in. Y'all enjoy the fun and the sun there while you can

by The fly March 6, 2011 4:23 PM

Whats the matter slags am I pulling more of the cover back.

You ask why am I attacking you this ain't no attact this is find and put the dirtbag in jail.

Condon

Howdy slag I see you decided to ooz out from under your dark wet waste pile to confort your fellow dirtbag awwww how sweet.

You and your fellow scum bags have taken the money and hopes of these good folks out here and I am going to enjoy watching that iron door slam on you and the other excuses of life that you are by The fly March 6, 2011 4:43 PM

The fly's mom is the secretary of a project partner who has been financially unable to support him due to COR's delays. As a result she hasn't been able to pay for his ford focus lease payments and subsequently he lost his girlfriend to a guy with a toyota prius. His position is now much clearer. by WakeUpNow March 6, 2011 4:49 PM

Hey DUDD

Is that all you got to cut and paste one of my post from jan OMG boy you are a sorry one.

I struck a real deep nerve and y'all don't feel as invencible as you thought you were.

Your scam has been exposed for what it is and the victims are filing with the bureau every week now your string of unpaid victims aka rangers have questions themselfs as to the real agenda of Cor and a select few have themselfs been interviewed.

The fact I have droped a few hints here and that all of them have paned out to a larger part of the puzzle is far more then then the S#!T load of lies and different screen names you three are useing here thats right the three of you.

I told these good folks 2 months ago that this was a scam I showed them P.O boxes you slags were hiding behind and the countless number of companies that bore the Name of Alberto B. Colon all linked to Cor and that Cor was just another front.

You come here claiming to have been funded and can not show the slightless of proof.

You Claim not to be berto and Art but you and the other screen names you both use have more inside information then any other so called ranger or victim.

You sound like ross in some of your e-mails as to the whos and whats going on I wonder why????

All of the companies that are apart of the Cor Crime organization has major issues with them and the Fact that Art's name appears on the legal documents as the attorney and Art ain't no attorney in it's self is a major felony plus the entire agreement is void.

As I sit here pondering the real reasoning behind your scam did you really start out to help or was this a scam from the start But after the market crashed we will never really know cause thats where you lost your asses.

I made a quick post concerning D.R Banko just another hint I tossed out there something that won't hurt this on going investigation but will allow more of the truth to come out.

by The fly March 6, 2011 5:14 PM

Hey there slag

Nope your wrong again!!!!!!!! My mom went off to her reward over 14 years ago.

Why is it all you slags can do here is wise crack but can't show proof of jack you claim. Oh I know cause everything that you crap out of your mouth is just another lie by The fly March 6, 2011 5:18 PM

Dang boy that wornt even funny I like a good ribbin but at lease make it funny.

Humm

@ WakeupNow

The real reason your the lying dirtbag you are is that when you were a youngen your ma over charged for lip services and you are now forced to repay Dang boy she must have been on her knees for years so thats who that was years ago when I was on shore leave boy that line was around the corner by The fly March 6, 2011 5:28 PM

Mr. Ass Clown, The reason for the cut and past is to show everyone how much of a fool you are. But I will just let you keep talikng. You do a good job of it yourself... by mdudd March 6, 2011 5:36 PM

@WakeUpNow
I think you are right on point. LoL! You got up under his skin with that one. It's amazing how he types so much rubbish in the same manner as DoNotBelieve does when he is trying to make a point or when he’s upset. by Conway20 March 6, 2011 5:38 PM

Your the fools if you think you can continue to post your lies here and the fact that no ones beleives word one of what you post is a standing fact.

Awwwww y'all think i'm upset ain't that cute so whats the latest in your on going line of BS slags.

Like I said I like a good joke as well as the next guy but at lease let it be funny by The fly March 6, 2011 5:45 PM

I get so tired of the circular reasoning from this plebe.

He cries about no one having evidence to prove legitimacy when he has absolutely zero proof, ONLY SPECULATION, of fraud.

by WakeUpNow March 6, 2011 5:45 PM

Oh I got one more question ????

Why did it take y'all so long to close the Villa park mail box ????

And why did y'all stop picking up mail at the fayettville location I'm just asking ????????

Is this the new line of BS you slags are trying to post dang y'all are sad

There ain't NO SPEC-ULATION of fraud this is fraud plain and simple and the Criminal Organization you slags try deny it is pricless I am sure it won't hit until y'all are all in jail I understand if you are picked up there you go to jail there I am sure you will be begging for extradition to the States.

But your in i tight spot you can't leave cause your on the list and you can't make too much of a fuss cause you don't want to get caught. See you shouldn't have listen to the dope filled kidea's of berto I thought you had more smarts then that I was wrong by The fly March 6, 2011 6:04 PM

Ok, its fraud, what are you going to do about it. No one is turning themselves in and no one is running, so what’s next for you fake cop. You got the mail box evidence, so use it. LoL! by Conway20 March 6, 2011 6:11 PM

AHHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAAHHA hahhahahahhahha HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAH @
" Ok, its fraud, what are you going to do about it. No one is turning themselves in and no one is running, so what’s next for you fake cop. "

by WakeUpNow March 6, 2011 6:14 PM

For the record: LIP SERVICE refers to back talk, not blowjobs... idiot.

by WakeUpNow March 6, 2011 6:17 PM

I just asked why don't y'all pick up your mail thats all slags.

@ Condon

I have a question for you just a question is all. You know when I've been out riding my horse all day and doin a few chores afterward I go home kiss the little lady go and take a shower and all the days dirt pours down the drain and i feel refreshed and clean But you no matter how long you try to scrub the dirt and stench offen you it just won't That must be hell ain't it Boy by The fly March 6, 2011 6:17 PM

LoL! I really try not to hurt myself reading this fool's post, but "extradition to the States". When you think he cannot get any dumber. by Conway20 March 6, 2011 6:18 PM

Which show is it? New York Undercover, Criminal Minds, CSI, what? LoL! Too much T.V. by Conway20 March 6, 2011 6:22 PM

I was being polite Dirtbag for the sake of the other posters here you low life poor excuse of a life form

So you admit that this is a scam and you and the others have committed a crime and that there is no money.

See there now don't that make you feel better to get it out of your system.

And as for the fake well now that hurts my feelin boy I would think you could come better then that Oh yea just like this scam that just droped the other shoe so is your ability to tell a joke or crack on someone Boy you are truly a sorry sack of crap

Okay where's the other dirtbag slag to hold your hand and say it's all right and don't let me take you out of your confort zone booooooo hoooooooo

Y'all remember the turd floater of badges and suits rushing y'alls way

by The fly March 6, 2011 6:27 PM

Do you know the number to 911? You dumb waste of sperm. by Conway20 March 6, 2011 6:31 PM

Well Condom20

To tell you the truth I havent a TV show in awhile been too busy with this and another case to have time.

You dirtbags have been caught red handed and y'all know it.

Condom aka dudd and whoever else you want to sign in under are a sick and demented doggie you need help boy come up off that dope and get help boy.

The real funny thing about this is that you know that whatever you or your other SN's or the other slag post here would ever be beleived so you are just here for spite and to see what crumbs I will leave.

You know the truth you know that the feds are moving in and you know that your (rangers) can no longer be trusted more and more collection agencies are calling and more and more Victims are filing and demanding there money back most of which you can not repay in three lifetimes.

thats why those really close to this scam are starting to spaz out as my partner says.

I know what and who you are and the lies and crimes you and your little band of dirtbags have done.

You have called me everything from a broker to a victim and haven't come close. you thought I was a local cop and wrong again. Oh yea you even hinted that I was DoNotBeleive.

I've pointed out some very interesting things about this criminal organization known as Cor and the Dirtbags that make it up.

All of my funding here have been proven to be true and factual unlike your claims which to date are no more then just empty and meaningless claims.

You rallyed around the three of you and your bag full of screen names to try to confuse and mislead thoes here to find out the truth and each time you all are caught flat footed in lie after lie

The thing is this dirtbag(s) the folks aren't laughing with you they are all laughing at you to include this poster.

Your attempts to talk down or disprove or discount the findings of others here if it is not to your likings is the sorriest load of crap seen here The fact you know that everyone here knows that it's a load of crap and yet you still try to sell it y'all got some stones I will give y'all that.

Oh and when your all behind bars and the deal you think your going to get for ratting on one another is taken off the table. It will come to you Dang I should have taken The Fly's advice and turned myself in when I had the chance. by The fly March 6, 2011 7:01 PM

@ Condom20

Now your using your head I'm proud of you Dirtbag Now put down the dope dial the Number and confess also ask for help. You see my pleads have not gone unheard you are on the right track.

Dang dirtbag there's a glimmer of hope for you yet. Now as soon as you turn yourself in the better you will feel.

by The fly March 6, 2011 7:08 PM

Oh I got one more question ????

Why did it take y'all so long to close the Villa park mail box ????

And why did y'all stop picking up mail at the fayettville location I'm just asking ????????

Oh next time try the spf 50 y'all won't burn as much
by The fly March 6, 2011 5:50 PM

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Why does COR have to put out updates? They are supposed to fund not update. They can leave the updates to you. By the way, thank you for proving my point....... by mdudd March 6, 2011 7:09 PM

Mr. Ass Clown,
You caught me, I am everybody on this blog but you. Good Job!!!!! by mdudd March 6, 2011 7:11 PM

Why do COR have to turn their selves in? Send in your evidence fake cop and take the lead on the collar. A little cop talk for ya. LoL! Condom20 - LoL! How witty! by Conway20 March 6, 2011 7:18 PM

Okay dirtbags

Cor don't have to anything but go to jail y'all don't need to put yet another batch of lies and promised funding dates that we all know will never happen Oh the few that did get funded.

Yea right

@ DUDD/CONDOM20

All of the findings we gathered has been processed and forwarded as i posted earlier. Dang Slag just when I think there is hope for you there you go on that dope again look at the earlier post if you need any help why don't y'all get that ELMO screen name to help you out boy.

Well as much as that would a joy we are team players here and as I stated we did our little part but I will make a request to be there.

Hey what happen to Mr sun burn????

Hey Condom20 I thought I was a collector or a broker or a victim now that I struck a few nerves you try to discredit my post by calling me a fake cop awwwwwwwwww that hurts my feelings.

So fish or cut bait boy I've made my point and pointed out the facts what have you got you lying sack .Well what can you post here becided the endless lies and gutter trash talk you are so good at when you get caught in one of your whopper of lies or points.

Point out one that was funded and show proof point out one real address that anyone can go to and speak with a real person like berto or art I haven't said anything about the others listed on the Cor Family list but I will next week as I said I can't disclose sensitive information in a on going investigation but i can drop a hint or two that won't cause any issues.

by The fly March 6, 2011 7:41 PM

When you come out with yet another sack of crap even if you slags sell and pawn and take every penny y'all can rub together to fake a show project. it will never happen there's one thing you slags are missing and I'll be glad to fill you in on that little fact if y'all ask nicely slags

And you know what y'all are still going to jail so why even try dirtbags by The fly March 6, 2011 7:55 PM

I guess we have to wait on his alter ego (DoNotBelieve) to appear so we can decipher this Morse Code he just posted. by Conway20 March 6, 2011 7:57 PM

So Camper We now have proof that Comdom20 and wakeupnow are the same person you decide at the post copied below.

Ok, its fraud, what are you going to do about it. No one is turning themselves in and no one is running, so what’s next for you fake cop. You got the mail box evidence, so use it. LoL!
by Conway20 March 6, 2011 6:11 PM

AHHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAAHHA hahhahahahhahha HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAH @
" Ok, its fraud, what are you going to do about it. No one is turning themselves in and no one is running, so what’s next for you fake cop. "

by WakeUpNow March 6, 2011 6:14 PM

The end of the two post have a slight change but the writting is the very same plus the admission that the P.O bxes are part of this crime. But in a earlier they attempted to defend the use of P.O boxes in legit Company use by The fly March 6, 2011 8:03 PM

Nice Try Dirtbag

But unlike you I only have one screen name and this is it.

You are funny boy that helps in jail.

by The fly March 6, 2011 8:08 PM

You go boy. You so smart. Nevermind the quotations. Need I say more! LoL! by Conway20 March 6, 2011 8:09 PM

Hey Dirtbag/Slag/Condom20/DUDD

When y'all gona trade that truck in y'all better do it before y'all get caught or are you afraid to buy anything now or go in that little stash for fear y'all will get caught ??????? by The fly March 6, 2011 8:12 PM

Hey Slag(s)/Dirtbags

How many So Called rangers calls have y'all blown off and why y'all disconnect two of the numbers that these so called rangers call into y'all on .You think they have turned hummmmmmmmmm the ones that have are closer then you think.

The Fly

Buzz Buzz by The fly March 6, 2011 8:20 PM

You are like the energizer bunny. LoL!
I must repost this. This takes the case. LoL!

How dumb is this guy?
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So Camper We now have proof that Comdom20 and wakeupnow are the same person you decide at the post copied below.

Ok, its fraud, what are you going to do about it. No one is turning themselves in and no one is running, so what’s next for you fake cop. You got the mail box evidence, so use it. LoL!
by Conway20 March 6, 2011 6:11 PM

AHHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAAHHA hahhahahahhahha HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAH @
" Ok, its fraud, what are you going to do about it. No one is turning themselves in and no one is running, so what’s next for you fake cop. "

by WakeUpNow March 6, 2011 6:14 PM

The end of the two post have a slight change but the writting is the very same plus the admission that the P.O bxes are part of this crime. But in a earlier they attempted to defend the use of P.O boxes in legit Company use

by The fly March 6, 2011 8:03 PM
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by Conway20 March 6, 2011 8:28 PM

Well I can answer that question I'm not as smart as some but I sure as hell am smarter then you bunch of dirtbags.

The facts are just that Condom20 and y'all are caught plain and simple.

You caused your own down bringing I want you to remember that here i'll give you a freebie.

If i wanted to turn someone to give me inside evidence after these people were promised millions in commissions and fees for there part in this so call joint venture company what would be the easiest way to do it ??????????

Now try not to hurt yourself with this one seeing as you have fried so many brain cells smokin that dope.maybe you and the other two dirtbags can help you know I've never called a lady a dirtbag but in this case i will make an exception with your little lot.

Y'all are just so dang helpful you make this easier and easier everyday Thank ya Slag(s) by The fly March 6, 2011 8:50 PM

Hate to disappoint everyone, but The Fly is The Fly and I am DoNot Believe. We are two different people. If you can't see that from the posts then you must all be blind.

Fact for the day:
The authorities do have a case for Fraud and Conspiracy to commit Fraud among other charges. Saw the paperwork myself.

Fact for last week:
COR DID NOT FUND!!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep tearing everybody down...You will all get what is coming to you and it won't be pleasant...I think the color is orange!

YOU ALL WON'T BE SAYING LOL MUCH LONGER! by DoNotBelieve March 7, 2011 8:27 AM

C’mon DoNotBelieve, you have to admit, The fly is stupid. He could not figure out that WakeUpNow was laughing and quoting a post. Plus, the ridiculous mail box discovery/question. This is the same guy you confer with. by Conway20 March 7, 2011 9:15 AM

C20
We don't confer, I read the posts just like you do.

by DoNotBelieve March 7, 2011 9:40 AM

I has been over 3 weeks since the Great Mr. Colon made his grand announcement that wires were sent and that project partners would be funded.

Just checking to see if any one has any "solid proof" that anyone (not just COR insiders) has actually received any funding? by summerheat March 7, 2011 2:45 PM

How would you like to see this proof? by Conway20 March 7, 2011 3:01 PM

Hundred dollar bills or evidence of receipt of wire.

by SeriouslyC'mon March 7, 2011 3:05 PM

Conway20
1. Did you recieve funding? (yes or no)
2. Or do you work for COR (yes or no)
Please be direct. by summerheat March 7, 2011 3:06 PM

Conway20 is not a trick question. Which one is it?

A. No. I did not recieved funding and I do not you work for COR.
B. No. I did not recieved funding and I do work for COR.
C. Yes. I did recieved funding and I not you work for COR.
D. Yes. I recieved funding and I do work for COR. by summerheat March 7, 2011 4:05 PM

Summerheat, SeriouslyC'mon

Just checked with my friend, absolutely no funding, or hint of wire transfers on the horizon. Let alone real dollar bills! I wouldn't trust any answer anyone of these screen names give you. They are all involved somehow! Not trustworthy!

Only communication was from his Ranger who sent him words from Alberto.
"I will be posting in Groove today just not sure when, please hold"
That was it, more BS!!!!

I don't know about you, but my friend is more focused on getting justice for these crooks than thinking about ever getting funding. He is fed up and looking for revenge at this point. by DoNotBelieve March 7, 2011 4:08 PM

YOU CAN'T TRUST ANYTHING THEY SAY!!!

by DoNotBelieve March 7, 2011 4:10 PM

Well

Hey Condom20 thought I had you peged but I was wrong I didn't know you batted for the other side.

Just when you think you got a dirtbag down pat up pops something else.

The fact is you buddy can't hind in puerto rico and the fact is your stolen fee's have almost been all tracked down.

The fact you all are changing cell phones weekly and the fact that more and more people on both sides of the fence are talking and making deals.

Oh I am told that one of your very own has expressed a interest in making a deal (YOU SEE ONCE AGAIN YOU WERE WRONG CONDOM20 MY PLEAD TO DO THE RIGHT THING WAS TAKEN)

You ask when is the hammer going to drop and you ask why am I still here if my part of the investigation was over well I answered part one now for part two.

I have suceeded in getting more folks to come forward and file complaints and to tell there story and clear there names and now I have word that one of the OG's of the Alberto crime Family wants to cut a deal hot damn.

Now is it clear as to way I am here and for the when will the hammer drop part I will leave you with this riddle to unwrap if you can.

WHEN DO YOU KNOW A RATTLE SNAKE IS ABOUT TO STRIKE?????

WHEN you answer and understand that one you will know when

by The fly March 7, 2011 4:18 PM

My purpose for that question (although Ms. Instigator answers everyone’s questions) is that there is no way to prove it that you will accept and those that did receive a wire will not show anything outside of their circle. I have not received funding yet, but I am aware of one project that have. I know this because we both fall under the same broker. Plus, I have some strong information that allows me to believe that funding will restart. This information I will not disclose on this blog and regardless to you believing it or not, I am pretty good with it all. by Conway20 March 7, 2011 5:05 PM

DoNotBeleive,Summerheat and Seriously

Summerheat I still have some strange vibs from your screen name and your reasoning but what the hay (lol)

Okay folks I would hope that the hints are clear enough to follow and for you to find the information that makes it even more clear to you about this Criminal Organization and how it works and where the players are.

none of y'all are slow leaks so I didn't feel bad when I dummied down my post or let the texan in my out in type (LMAO) but it was and is all for a reason and has worked very well I might add

If you look at the post from yesterday you will see that a nerve was struck and some quick damage control over the phone was done to patch things over as you read futher down from that day you will see a slight attempt at humor on the dirtbags part to regain it's standing but that didn't work either here is that post for your review.

PUERTO RICO was in reference to the RICO act. Not Puerto Rico the nation. You can say whatever you want to cover your tracks after the fact, you are desperately reaching to find reason to attack me. You're a fucking moron and you're misleading people. Your facts are not facts. Nothing more than speculation. You can't even keep numbers straight because you're just an instigator and have even less invested in this than I do.

@WakeUpNow
Don’t allow that fool to make you step out of your comfort zone. There is only one person that has that much hatred for COR that understands that dumb jackass. Keep your cool.
by Conway20 March 5, 2011 10:25 PM

So if you are to that this as we have here you will see that dirtbag #1 panicked and almost let the cat out of the bag.

by The fly March 7, 2011 5:12 PM

Thanks for you response Conway20, but you did not answer part B to the question, Do you work for COR (yes or no) ? But I guess you anwsered it in a way to leave "an impression". Thanks any way.

by summerheat March 7, 2011 5:13 PM

C20

Summhheat asked, "If anyone received any funding"

That means ANYONE, not just you jerk. As I stated, who would believe any of your screen names.
At least I know my friend is telling me the truth.

by DoNotBelieve March 7, 2011 5:16 PM

So Conway is trying to make us believe that 1 project out of 232 or so supposedly received funding...Why would anyone believe him anyway. If so 1 out of 232 over a two year period, what do you think?
That's worth waiting for...Not! by DoNotBelieve March 7, 2011 5:25 PM

Conway there were NO WIRES...Only a brief non committal message from the Great Alberto!!!!!!!!!!
Read earlier post: 4:08 PM

You are so full of BS it's disgusting!

by DoNotBelieve March 7, 2011 5:30 PM

@summerheat
The question was answered when I stated that I have not received funding yet. by Conway20 March 7, 2011 5:31 PM

@Condom20 or whatever screen name you wish to fall under.

You and the other Dirtbag has lied to the point of total disbeleif of any post or claim you or it makes. I would submit that the curtain has been pulled back and the truth is out you are a very connected part of this Fraud and Criminal Organization your continued attempts to deceive others here is yet another sad and sorry ploy.

One moment you are cosigning for the other slag and the other you are posing as one of Cor's victims you claim to have inside information one moment then you claim to know nothing or in your own words have strong information from your broker where are they getting there intel from and if no one has been funded to date why would you beleive the word of someone that receives the same information as you claim to.

If you would look at what you have posted and read what you have just wrote you will see even thur that dope enduced haze of whats left of your brain that it's a lie a sorry attempt to cover your other lies and deceive.

Your a sorry sad puppy and I just got word gay too boot WOW you really have some issues I know you can't help the gay thing but dang I truly didn't see that

by The fly March 7, 2011 5:38 PM

Here is a quote from the fly:

"So if you are to that this as we have here you will see that dirtbag #1 panicked and almost let the cat out of the bag. "

Please someone explain what the hell he's talking about.

"So if you are to that this as we have here.."

You are an absolute fucking idiot. I am not any other screen name on this forum but I am happy to let you believe that I am Conway20, DoOrDie, mdudd, sweet angel, summerheat, DoNotBelieve, etc. by WakeUpNow March 7, 2011 5:45 PM

@Condom20

You just won't give up I've asked for proof for the past 3 months and in that time you and the other dirtbag(s) screen names all claim to either been funded or you have proof of the so called MASTER COR BANK ACCOUNT HOLDINGS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS Yea right sure.

I think they call this back pedaling. Whats the matter????

You trying to cut away from the rest of the dirtbags .
Hey Hey was it you that cut a deal so now your playing the victim role now awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww by The fly March 7, 2011 5:48 PM

The problem as I see it is that the naysayers have accepted that everyone has to be experiencing the same frustrations as they are. They have lost their homes, cars, wives, and mistresses and believe everyone else is going through the same thing. If anyone has something positive to say about this funding then it must be someone with COR. Sorry, we all are not totally having the same issues. Most of our companies are doing pretty well and the COR funding will allow us to expand on our present status or take on new projects. What I gather from most of what I hear and read is that many partners have not done anything before. Some have not completed a full business plan, but submitted some crappy executive summary with their borrowed fee to get in. I’m sure it is them/broker that are having the problems and the very same that are talking the most crap on this blog.

@The fly and DoNotBelieve
Your mess is getting old. These guys need positive influence because they are not going anywhere. They are going to hang in here and get funded just like the rest of us. It’s best to get with the program or roll out. by Conway20 March 7, 2011 5:48 PM

Watch it WakeUpNow. He's going to think you are him by quoting him. LoL! The dipstick don't understand what quotation marks are. by Conway20 March 7, 2011 5:51 PM

Well speaking for myself, "I am ready for the cat to get out of the bag." I don't care which way it runs, to the postive or the negative side. I do feel that it will be soon though. I agree with Mr. Fly the time is getting close. We shall see the possibility of, a Mr. Alberto with a great smile on his face raking in the profits from the projects or Mr. Alberto with another face as the cell door closes. For the sake of all that are invested both in time and money I hope he funds.
Thanks by screenname22 March 7, 2011 5:53 PM

@WUN/Dirtbag

How did that cc work out for ya last night did the other bring you back to your confort zone or are you packing and moving yet again. Am I upsetting you do I make you nervous.

Well thats easy it was a total and complete computer typo by The fly March 7, 2011 5:54 PM

HEY DIRTBAGS HAVE YOU FIGURED OUT THE RIDDLE YET???????? by The fly March 7, 2011 5:55 PM

Hey Condom20 and the other dirtbag

I see your problem right here your lying sacks of crap and your going to jail. For a loooooooooooooong time so enjoy your time in the sun and I mean in the sun i.e Puerto Rico and on the run.

I also know that before Cor can pay out dime one of what it does not have it must pay all of the fines and collections and suits that have been leveled at it so as for the Cor will fund BS and the you know of one that was funded your a lying sack you dirtbag by The fly March 7, 2011 6:03 PM

I haven't committed any crimes, and am not involved with COR in any way shape or form. I am not a project partner, I am not a broker, I am not a ranger. I am on this website following the posts and the situation as this forum sees it. There are 3 sides to every story. Your side, my side, and the truth. I just know for a fact that THEFLY is a dickless moron who is probably the child of a project partner who is better.

by WakeUpNow March 7, 2011 6:08 PM

Thanks for the information. You are a modern day Dick Tracy. Keep up the good work. by Conway20 March 7, 2011 6:08 PM

My above post was for Officer The fly. by Conway20 March 7, 2011 6:09 PM

better off using condoms in the future. by WakeUpNow March 7, 2011 6:11 PM

I think he was a test tube experiment and the tube had a crack in, but they use it anyway. by Conway20 March 7, 2011 6:17 PM

Interesting:

Conway is Gay (no wonder he picks on women all the time).

WakeUpNow has no vested interest in this situation. Well like they accuse me of...What are you doing here then?
At least I have a friend involved.

by DoNotBelieve March 7, 2011 6:21 PM

Waste of science and technology.

This guy couldn't win an argument with a grapefruit.

I love the fly thinks that Americans can hide in Puerto Rico when the federal legislative branch is the US congress. by WakeUpNow March 7, 2011 6:21 PM

WUN

Your a lying sack your so connected to the rest of the dirtbags at Cor how many times have you changed cell phones dirtbag.

As for Condom20

What a waste of life a dope head and a peter puffer WOW

Well Slags/Dirtbags have you come up with the answer to my riddle yet?????

Thats when we will meet boys thats when we will meet.

Also have you figured why I still post what is the purpose besides encouraging othet to file complaints and others to clear there names.

Well Slags

by The fly March 7, 2011 6:23 PM

@WakeUpNow
That's what I been saying. This guy is so dumb he does not know that the PR is part of the US. He said, "extradition to the States". How dumb is that?

@DoNotBelieve
So you admit you are a girl? by Conway20 March 7, 2011 6:37 PM

I've had the same cell phone number for quite a while. I'm poor as I stated before and have a lot of free time to follow this forum. I have zero involvement with COR.

Believe what you must!

by WakeUpNow March 7, 2011 6:44 PM

@DoNotBelieve
Oh, I see. You were supporting what the dummy had posted. You don't confer with him, but you agree with him. I see. Why are you so controversial and ugly? Is there a problem?

@The fly
Do you need a passport to fly to Puerto Rico? I’m just curious if you know the answer. by Conway20 March 7, 2011 7:01 PM

Mr. Ass Clown,
Check this link out, it will give you all of the info you need about Puerto Rico..

@mdudd
I wanted his dumb butt to figure it out. by Conway20 March 7, 2011 8:12 PM

Conway
No, I said, " No wonder you pick on women so much," since you are Gay. You obviously don't like women very much and it shows in your comments.
I really don't have anything against Gay people...To each their own.
You just don't like women.

Can't you read? I don't confer, I read the posts the same as everbody else reads the post. Don't go twisting all the words.

You are the one that has the problem not me! You are alwyas critical, demeaning, crude, hurtfull, shoud I go on Congay?

by DoNotBelieve March 7, 2011 8:18 PM

@DoNotBelieve
First off, you got me confused with someone else. What comment have I made about women. Most folks seem to think you are a women or a queer. Unlike you, I have problems with faggots. by Conway20 March 7, 2011 8:29 PM

Congay
Check your earlier post today, 5:05
Calling me Ms. Investigator, that I believe is a Women reference.
Hey my daughter was just talking about the Bachelor being on TV, you probably should go watch it!
Face it you have a problem with everybody!

by DoNotBelieve March 7, 2011 8:36 PM

Ms. Investigator was not referencing a woman, but it was referencing you. So please, go join your daughter in watching the Bachelor. I'm sure she already have a idea about her daddy. by Conway20 March 7, 2011 8:41 PM

For the record, I only have a problem with you. I don't even have a problem with The fly, because I know he was a laboratory accident. You are a straight coward. by Conway20 March 7, 2011 8:46 PM

Quick question – I did not call your name, so how did you know it was you I was talking about. Hummmmm by Conway20 March 7, 2011 8:55 PM

I've heard that the great Oz that is Alberto (and Cor) is going to roll out another funding announcement in the next day or two. As long as he has the lemmings on this site who hang on his every word as fact although he has never met a single date for anyone, he'll continue to play the game. He and the others just don't understand that the game is already over. by SeriouslyC'mon March 7, 2011 9:00 PM

@conway20,
Did you realize that Mr. Ass Clown only post at certain times of the day? Wonder Why? He is also so informative on how the legal system works. I think it is because he is behind bars himself. Just a thought.

@DNB,
Where did you get 232 projects from? If you do not know, do not speculate... Because you are not even close...

So Conway is trying to make us believe that 1 project out of 232 or so supposedly received funding...Why would anyone believe him anyway. If so 1 out of 232 over a two year period, what do you think?
That's worth waiting for...Not!
by DoNotBelieve March 7, 2011 5:25 PM

@SeriouslyC'mon
Clearly you are hanging on to Alberto word as well, but you are doing it by lying to yourself. Claiming to have filed a complaint and not asking for your money back makes you feel that you are not with everyone else. Ok, I believe it. Unfortunately the destruction that you are claiming to happen will only be yours.

@mdudd
He clearly sounds like some uneducated inmate. Especially with his graphic details of what goes on in there. Someone once gave him the definition of a slag, but clearly it may be a prison term among the soap droppers as he so poetically puts it. by Conway20 March 7, 2011 9:35 PM

SC,
So sad what COR has done to you. I understand, Believe me I do. You were once high on the funding, remember (let me remind you)

"
Albertonot and CVNuck:

How on earth do you expect people to blindly send their contracts or information to you? You have given no identification or explanation of your experience and motives but are surprised when folks haven't flocked to you.

Everyone's patience is thin. We know that not everyone will get the expected result due to a number of factors. COR has stated that projects were excluded for a number of reasons. Is it not possible that a number of the posts on here are from people who had their project removed? The individuals from COR have made filings with the SEC that can and should be viewed by everyone. Reviewing this information shows that there have been a number of delays. Were these avoidable? That's hard to say. It appears that there has been litigation between members of the holding company. How do we know that the individuals referenced in those filings aren't the posters on this forum?

There are advantages to having a forum such as this one but one of the drawbacks is the anonymous nature of who you are interacting with.

Has COR funded yet? Not to my knowledge. Will they? Remains to be seen but I believe that they will. When? Sometime after they say they will if past performance is a judge. Has the delay allowed COR to utlize the funds in their possession longer, you bet.

Guess there must be 2 of you? Just a reminder!!! by mdudd March 7, 2011 9:38 PM

Conway20

You SHOULD have a problem with faggots. It's against God's will and nature's law.

COR WILL FUND WHEN THEY CAN, THEY HAVE SHOWN NOTHING BUT INTENTION TO DO WHAT THEY SAY. POOR COMMUNICATION SKILLS ARE NOT INDICATION OF FRAUD. THE FACT THAT ALBERTO HAS HANDLERS OR PEOPLE TO ANSWER TO IS NO SURPRISE, HIS GROUP IS ABOUT TO FUND HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR PROJECTS ON A LARGE SCALE. YOU DON'T THINK THERE ARE MONEY MASTER IN THIS WORLD? I ASSURE YOU THAT FEDERAL AND STATE AGENCIES HAVE NO IDEA OF THESE INNER WORKINGS OF A CAPITALIST MONETARY SYSTEM. IF YOU DON'T LIKE HOW IT WORKS, START YOUR OWN SECRET SOCIETIES AND START YOUR OWN INTERNATIONAL BANKING CARTELS. OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP AND WAIT, THERE IS NOTHING ELSE YOU CAN DO.

by WakeUpNow March 7, 2011 10:19 PM

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." - Leviticus 18:22 by Conway20 March 7, 2011 10:22 PM

Genesis 19:5:
"Bring them out to us that we may know them."

Author's Note: "Know" simply means know! No hint at homosexuality exists in the original Hebrew. No later Bible references to Sodom ever mention homosexuality as the sin of Sodom. Many modern translations add words to the text to create the lie that the people of Sodom were homosexual.

"SODOMY" is not a biblical word. Laws against sodomy not only violate the Constitutional guarantee of separation of church and state; they also use an incorrect and wrongly translated term for the laws. A "Sodomite" in the Bible is simply a person who lives in Sodom, which included Lot and his family. The term "sodomite" in the King James Version of Deuteronomy 23:17 and I Kings 14:24 is an incorrect translation of the Hebrew word for "temple prostitute." (See the recent book by Mark D. Jordan: The Invention of Sodomy in Christian Theology. University of Chicago Press, 1997.)

The average person assumes that the Bible clearly condemns male to male sexual intercourse as "sodomy" and that the city of Sodom was destroyed because of homosexuality, which is seen as the worst of all sins in the Bible. These assumptions are based on no evidence at all in the Bible.

No Jewish scholars before the first Christian century taught that the sin of Sodom was sexual. None of the biblical references to Sodom mention sexual sins but view Sodom as an example of injustice, lack of hospitality to strangers, idolatry and as a symbol for desolation and destruction. See Deuteronomy 29:22-28; 32:32; Ezekiel 16:49-50; Jeremiah 49:18; 50:41; Isaiah 13:19-22 and Matthew 10:14-15. In Jude 7, the term "strange flesh" is Greek hetero sarkos ("different flesh" and from which the word "heterosexual" comes) and refers to foreign idols or people. It is not homo ("the same") flesh or people. Sarkos is never used in the New Testament as a word for "sex."

The word "know" in Genesis 19:5 is Hebrew YADA. It is used 943 times in the Old Testament to "know" God, good and evil, the truth, the law, people, places, things, etc. It is a very flexible word, as are many Hebrew words. In Genesis 19:5, the word was used to express the request of the people of Sodom that Lot should bring out the strangers in his house so that they could know who they were. Sodom was a tiny fortress in the barren wasteland south of the Dead Sea. The only strangers that the people of Sodom ever saw were enemy tribes who wanted to destroy and take over their valuable fortress and the trade routes that it protected. Lot himself was an alien in their midst.

Lot's strange response to the request was to offer his young daughters to the men, an offer that seems to me to be far more reprehensible than any problem of sexual orientation. If the men were homosexual, why did Lot offer to give them his daughters? These hostile and violent people were heterosexual, and homosexual orientation had nothing to do with the incident.

Special note on YADA: The Hebrew word YADA "to know" is never used in the Old Testament to mean "to have sex with". People have been conditioned to think that "to know someone biblically" means to have sex. The use of YADA in Genesis 4:1-2 to say that Adam knew Eve and she conceived and gave birth to Cain is followed by saying that later she gave birth to his brother Abel without any reference to YADA. Why? Simply because YADA does not mean to have sex. It is a general term that describes many kinds of intimate relationships. I have studied all of the uses of YADA in the Old Testament, and my personal conclusion is that it never means what we mean by sexual intercourse. Just substitute a common slang expression for sexual intercourse instead of the word "know" in Genesis 4:1 and you will see how inappropriate the idea is. The Old Testament Hebrew writers never thought or wrote in those terms. The Bible never gives any details about sexual acts. The only clear Hebrew term for sexual acts is "to lie with," which is left without any further explanation.

WHAT REALLY HAPPENED IN SODOM?

To twist the story to say what it does not say is to miss what it does say. The story does not deal with sexual orientation or with homosexuality and has no bearing at all on the issue of God's acceptance or rejection of Gays and Lesbians. The story of Sodom clearly teaches that evil and violent people who attack aliens and strangers whom they do not know or understand receive God's quick and terrible punishment.

The purpose of the story is to show that misunderstood, strange, or feared minorities in any community are in danger from violence by the majority when that majority is ignorant, ungodly, selfish and afraid. The real message of Sodom is backwards from the claims of homophobic preachers and teachers. The Gay and Lesbian minority in our society today is more like the guests in Lot's house who were protected behind closed doors ("in the closet") than like the frightened mindless mob that wanted to expose, humiliate and destroy people that they did not "know" and control.

Set the record straight! Genesis 19 is about the fear (like homophobia) and anger of a mob (like many misguided religious fanatics) directed against a small group of isolated strangers (like Gays and Lesbians today) in their midst. Sexual orientation is not the issue here or anywhere else in the Bible.

Read also the strange story in Judges 19:1-30 of the Levite in Gibeah, which was patterned after the story of Lot and the angels in Genesis 19. Jewish teachers before the time of Christ never saw either of these stories as having any connection with homosexuality or sexual orientation. Neither should we.

Leviticus 18:22:
"You shall not lie with a male as those who lie with a female; it is an abomination."

Leviticus 20:13:
"If a man lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination and they shall surely be put to death."

Author's Note: Both of these verses refer not to homosexuals but to heterosexuals who took part in the baal fertility rituals in order to guarantee good crops and healthy flocks. No hint at sexual orientation or homosexuality is even implied. The word abomination in Leviticus was used for anything that was considered to be religiously unclean or associated with idol worship.

Because these two verses in Leviticus (18:22 and 20:13) have been used more than any other Bible texts to condemn and reject gay and lesbian people, the following material is given to help you think objectively about traditional abusive use of the Bible regarding homosexuals.

The use of Leviticus to condemn and reject homosexuals is obviously a hypocritical selective use of the Bible against gays and lesbians. Nobody today tries to keep the laws in Leviticus. Look at Leviticus 11:1-12, where all unclean animals are forbidden as food, including rabbits, pigs, and shellfish, such as oysters, shrimp, lobsters, crabs, clams, and others that are called an "abomination." Leviticus 20:25 demands that "you are to make a distinction between the clean and unclean animal and between the unclean and clean bird; and you shall not make yourself an abomination by animal or by bird or by anything that creeps on the ground, which I have separated for you as unclean." You can eat some insects like locusts (grasshoppers), but not others.

Leviticus 12:1-8 declares that a woman is unclean for 33 days after giving birth to a boy and for 66 days after giving birth to a girl and goes on to demand that certain animals must be offered as a burnt offering and a sin offering for cleansing. Nobody today who claims to be a Christian tries to keep these laws, and few people even know about them! Why do you think that most people don't know about them?

Read Leviticus 23 to see the detailed regulations concerning "complete rest" on the Sabbath day and demands of animal sacrifices to be carried out according to exact instructions. Leviticus 18:19 forbids a husband from having sex with his wife during her menstrual period. Leviticus 19:19 forbids mixed breeding of various kinds of cattle, sowing various kinds of seeds in your field or wearing "a garment made from two kinds of material mixed together." Leviticus 19:27 demands that "you shall not round off the side-growth of your heads, nor harm the edges of your beard." The next verse forbids "tattoo marks on yourself." Most people do not even know that these laws are in the Bible and are demanded equally with all the others.

Why don't fundamentalists organize protests and picket seafood restaurants, oyster bars, church barbecue suppers, all grocery stores, barber shops, tattoo parlors, and stores that sell suits and dresses made of mixed wool, cotton, polyester, and other materials? All of these products and services are "abominations" in Leviticus. When have you heard a preacher condemn the demonic abomination of garments that are made of mixed fabrics?

The warning is given in Leviticus 26:14-16 that "If you do not obey me and do not carry out all of these commandments, if instead, you reject my statutes, and if your soul abhors my ordinances so as not to carry out all my commandments ...I, in turn, will do this to you: I will appoint over you a sudden terror, consumption and fever that shall waste away the eyes and cause the soul to pine away; also, you shall sow your seed uselessly, for your enemies shall eat it up." The list of punishments and terrors that will come from not keeping all of the commandments continues through many verses.

Read what Jesus said in Matthew 7:1-5 about hypocrites who judge others. "Do not judge lest you be judged yourselves... Why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? ...You hypocrite!"

If you have been led to misuse Leviticus and other parts of the Bible in order to condemn and hate and reject people, you are on the wrong path. Jesus quoted only one passage from Leviticus: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." (19:18). Jesus used Leviticus to teach love. Many false teachers use Leviticus and other writings to condemn, humiliate and destroy. I know which approach seems truly Christian to me. Jesus never condemned homosexuals or even mentioned anything that could be taken as a reference to sexual orientation.

Any charge against Gays and Lesbians based on the life and teachings of Jesus has to be dismissed for a lack of evidence!

The use of Leviticus to judge and condemn anyone today is ludicrous and absurd in the light of the total content of the book. To call the content of the Book of Leviticus the "word of God" and try to enforce any part of it today is without support in the teachings of Jesus and in the letters of Paul.

Jesus in Mark 7:18-23 chided his disciples for their lack of spiritual understanding. Jesus and his disciples had been condemned by the religious leaders because they did not wash and eat according to the Law. Jesus said, "Are you too so uncomprehending? Don't you see that whatever goes into your mouth from the outside cannot defile you; because it does not go into your heart, but into your stomach, and is eliminated? (Thus Jesus declared all foods clean."). And Jesus added, "That which proceeds from within you, out of your heart, defiles you. Evil thoughts, abusive sex acts, thefts, murders, adulteries, deeds of coveting, wickedness, deceit, not caring, envy, slander, arrogance and foolishness: all of these evil things proceed from within and defile you."

Paul also rejected the absolute commands of Leviticus in Colossians 2:8-23, where he said, "If you have died with Christ to the elementary principles of the world, why, as if you were living in the world, do you submit yourself to decrees, such as, 'Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!' (which all refer to things destined to perish with the using) in accordance with human commandments and teachings? These are matters which have, to be sure, the appearance of wisdom in self-made religion and self-abasement and severe treatment of the body, but are of no value against human indulgence." (2:20-23). Paul declared in 2:14 that Jesus has "canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us which was hostile to us; and Jesus has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross."

Many people have answered the argument that most of the "abominations" in Leviticus referred to food by saying that the people back then knew that pork was unhealthy, and that is why pigs were declared to be unclean. If you follow that logic, you would declare anything that is unhealthy to be an "abomination." We know that cigarettes, alcoholic beverages, fat food and many other things are unhealthy; so why are they not also called "abominations" and condemned by the rabid Bible literalists with protests and pickets against cigarette machines, all liquor stores and bars, all fast food outlets, and any store that sells anything that is unhealthy? The reason is simple. The use of Leviticus to condemn and reject anyone is impossible to justify in the light of the facts.

The use of Leviticus to condemn and reject homosexuals is absurd and makes literal legalistic bible based religion look ridiculous.

To me personally, the message of Jesus Christ always has been good news for everyone. Personal evangelism has been my basic emphasis in the ministry since I became pastor of a small rural church in South Carolina in 1952 when I was nineteen years old. Our little church led the Baptist Churches of South Carolina one year in per capita baptisms. In all of my churches, both Baptist and MCC, my emphasis has been personal evangelism. What is your emphasis in your ministry? I personally have led hundreds of people to Christ and taught other hundreds of people to become effective in sharing Christ with others. During all of this time I have been homosexual. I have realized that I was gay since I was a about 10 years old. God loves me just as I am and uses me in ministry that fits me and my life as an individual. I pray that you find the same thing for yourself.

Romans 1:26-27:
"For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions: for their women exchanged the natural use for that which is against nature. And in the same way also the men abandoned the natural use of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error."
Author's Note: All of this refers to idolatrous religious practices that were common in the time of Paul.

Taking anything that Paul said out its context is like trying to drive a car blindfolded. You don't know where you are, where you have been, where you are going, or who you just ran over and killed!

Paul's writings have been taken out of context and twisted to punish and oppress every identifiable minority in the world: Jews, children, women, blacks, slaves, politicians, divorced people, convicts, pro choice people, lesbians, gays, bisexuals, transsexuals, religious reformers, the mentally ill, and the list could go on and on. Paul is often difficult and confusing to understand. A lot of Paul's writing is very difficult to translate. Since most of his letters were written in response to news from other people, reading Paul can be like listening to one side of a telephone conversation. We know, or think we know, what Paul is saying, but we have to guess what the other side has said. As 2 Peter 3:16-18 pointed out, we have to be on guard against using Paul's writings in unhealthy and destructive ways.

When I taught a college course in the Book of Romans, I decided to memorize Romans, as Augustine suggested. The effort paid off. Being able to visualize the message of Romans as a whole immediately cleared up a lot of Paul's thought that I had not been able to untangle before by traditional means of study. It helped so much that I continued to memorize the books of the Bible that I taught in college courses.

The theme of the first 3 chapters of Romans is expressed in 1:16: "The gospel is the power of God for spiritual freedom (salvation) for all who believe." Paul showed that all people equally need and can have Jesus in their lives. Paul's gospel is inclusive, as expressed in Galatians 3:28: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, neither slave nor free, neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

Romans 1:26-27 is part of Paul's vigorous denunciation of idolatrous religious worship and rituals. Read all of Romans 1:18 to 2:4 for the context of the verses.

Romans 1:26-27 contains some words used only here by Paul. Familiar words are used here in unusual ways. The passage is very difficult to translate. The argument is directed against some form of idolatry that would have been known to Paul's readers. To us, 2,000 years later and in a totally different culture, the argument is vague and indirect.

Verse 25 is clearly a denunciation of idol worship, "For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature and not the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen."." Paul at no point in his writing dealt with same-sex orientation or the expression of love and affection between two people of the same sex who love each other.

Paul wrote Romans from Corinth, the second largest city in the empire and the crossroads of world trade and culture. Pausanius observed at about the same time as Paul that there were over 1,000 religions in Corinth. The most prominent were the fertility cult of Aphrodite, worship of Apollo, and the Delphi Oracle, which was across the bay from Corinth. Paul's readers would have been aware of the religious climate from which he wrote Romans and would have understood Paul a lot better than we do.

The word "passions" in 1:26 is the same word used to speak of the suffering and death of Jesus in Acts 1:3 and does not mean what we mean by "passion" today. Eros is the Greek word for romantic love, but eros is never used even once in the New Testament. "Passions" in 1:26 probably refers to the frenzied state of mind that many ancient mystery cults induced in worshipers by means of wine, drugs and music.

We do not know the meaning of "burn" in 1:27, because Paul never used this particular word anywhere else, and it's origin is uncertain. The term "against nature" is also strange here, since exactly the same term is used by Paul in Romans 11:21-24 to speak of God acting "against nature" by including the Gentiles with the Jews in the family of God. "Against nature" was used to speak of something that was not done in the usual way, but did not necessarily mean that something "against nature" was evil, since God also "acted against nature."

One more word needs special attention. "Committing indecent acts" in 1:27 is translated by King James Version as "working that which is unseemly." Phillips goes far beyond the evidence and renders it as "Shameful horrors!" The Greek word is askemosunen and is formed of the word for "outer appearance" plus the negative particle. It speaks of the inner or hidden part or parts of the individual that are not ordinarily seen or known in public. "Indecent" in 1 Corinthians 12:23 referred to the parts of the body that remain hidden but are necessary and receive honor. 1 Corinthians 13:5 used the word to say that love does not behave "indecently."

This word for "indecency" was used to translate Deuteronomy 24:1 into Greek to say that a man could divorce his wife if he "found some indecency in her." The religious teachers argued endlessly about what "some indecency" meant. Some said it was anything that displeased the husband. Others were more strict and said it could only refer to adultery. In Matthew 19:1-12, Jesus commented on Deuteronomy 24:1-4, but he did not define the term.

Paul was certainly aware of the variety of ways that the teachers interpreted the word "indecency," and he used it in a variety of ways himself. To read into "indecent acts" a whole world of homosexual ideas is to abandon the realities of objective academic study and to embark on useless and damaging speculation that cannot be supported by the meaning of the word or by Paul's use of it elsewhere.

If Paul had intended to condemn homosexuals as the worst of all sinners, he certainly had the language skills to do a clearer job of it than emerges from Romans 1:26-27. The fact is that Paul nowhere condemned or mentioned romantic love and sexual relations between people of the same sex who love each other. Paul never commented on sexual orientation. As in the rest of the Bible, Paul nowhere even hinted that Lesbians and Gay men can or should change their sexual orientation.

SPECIAL NOTE on Romans 1:31, where the King James Version translated the Greek word astorgous as "without natural affection." This is one of the characteristics of people "with a reprobate mind" (KJV of 1:28). The word for "reprobate" is more recently translated as "depraved" or "perverted" in order more neatly to fit the sexualizing of everything possible in the list. The literal meaning of "reprobate" (Greek dokimon) is "to fail to measure up" or "to fail to meet the test" and simply means that the list of things that follows is the result of a mind that has abandoned God. The word astorgous, "without natural affection," is used only here and in 2 Timothy 3:3. It has nothing at all to do with homosexuality or with sex. It is the Greek word for "family love" or "family ties" with the negative prefix. It refers to people who despise and reject their family members. Rather than being directed at homosexuals, it is a term that is directed at people who despise and reject their own homosexual children and brothers and sisters! Modern translators, knowing this, usually render the word as "unloving," and the implication of some sort of "unnatural" or "perverted" affection is removed. Many more translation corrections are needed elsewhere!

The use of Romans 1:26-27 against homosexuals turns out to be a blunt instrument to batter and wound people who were not intended in the original text. Paul clearly taught throughout Romans, Galatians and his other letters that God's freely given and all inclusive love is for every person on earth. Notice what Paul said about judging others in Romans 2:1: "Therefore you are without excuse, every one of you who passes judgment, for in that you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things."

Timothy 1:9-10:
"Law is not made for a righteous person but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and fornicators and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound (healthy) teaching." by WakeUpNow March 7, 2011 10:34 PM

Look at all the PRO FAGGOT stuff I found about the biblical quotes....

hilarious by WakeUpNow March 7, 2011 10:36 PM

Guys, WTF does this have to do with COR Funding? by mdudd March 7, 2011 10:41 PM

Sorry, I would delete the posts if I could.

Back on topic. by WakeUpNow March 7, 2011 10:45 PM

LoL! WakeUpNow went the hell off. by Conway20 March 7, 2011 10:47 PM

WakeUpNow:
Maybe you should clean up your mouth while you are giving all those Biblical quotes! How many F-bombs did you find in the Bible? You better send them to CONGAY!

YOU ARE TOTALLY RIDICULOUS...SO YOU CAN CUT AND PASTE...BIG DEAL!

FACT!FACT!FACT!FACT!FACT!..............................!
COR HAS NOT FUNDED!COR HAS NOT FUNDED!..................!

by DoNotBelieve March 7, 2011 10:48 PM

I got your Congay for your wife and daughter. by Conway20 March 7, 2011 10:52 PM

The word fuck wasn't even in use when the bible was written. Second of all you're thinking in a very small paradigm. My actions and my words speak for themselves in my community. I am a man of faith and a man of action. I do not let the sick and hungry go unassisted. I do everything in my power to be a contributing member of society. I like the strength of the word FUCK to convey a message. I don't think Jesus or God are concerned with my use of profanity, but thank you for sharing your concern.

I was pasting an article that I didn't realize was so long to show how some pro-gay writer was interpreting the quotes as having nothing to do with condemnation of homosexuality to justify his own wrongdoings.

FACT: COR HAS NOT FUNDED YOUR FRIEND.

by WakeUpNow March 7, 2011 10:52 PM

@DNB,
I have a question for you. Why did you not bring your friend to your venture capital buddy? Remember, I have know someone who works for a VC that nets 90 million a year. If your friend's project is good, which I think it is, then that seems like an easy sell. You would have got you brokers commision, (oh wait maybe we are on to something) and everyone would be happy... by mdudd March 7, 2011 11:04 PM

WUPN

Of course the word isn't the Bible that was the point idiot,or what is your favorite moron! You all tend to use the same words.
If you truly were a man of Faith you would now Jesus or God would be concerned with your profanity.
The only thing your F word conveys is lack of class. That is the message it sends, classless and crude!

DUDD
That person doesn't work for a VC his company net was 90 million.

I am not a Broker and if I give you the Brokers name it would quite possibly expose my friend.

I am not in that business.

by DoNotBelieve March 7, 2011 11:16 PM

Fuck does not convey a lack of class, it conveys a lack of decorum but only depending on the context and forum in which it is uttered.

God nor Jesus are concerned with profanity over sodomy.

by WakeUpNow March 7, 2011 11:20 PM

It's unfortunate that the words we use have been perverted into something they are not...
Hence.
The F... word when looked at means to penetrate. It has been perverted to an ugly word.

Bitch female dog. Same thing perverted to mean something ugly.

Gay a happy feeling distorted to mean someones sexual preference.

Faggot or fag an English term for a smoke.

Biblical references? we all know some parts of the bible. Yet I would suspect not any of us are scholars of the Written Word.

Let us get back on track and present the sides we all stand for. Maybe it would do us all some good. I for one continue to think funding will come. When? I do not know.

In the true scope of things each one makes a choice what or who he/she believes. This is the American way. So is the phrase innocent until proven guilty. All the name calling and bickering in my humble opinon is the true frustration of being strung along over the last several years. What a breath of fresh air it would be if we could support each other and agree to disagree about funding. You can please some of the people some of the time but, you can not please all the people all the time.

Thanks once again for your kindness, by screenname22 March 7, 2011 11:33 PM

Well said screenname22. I concur.

I believe that COR will fund when they are able to. I believe that there is nothing anyone can do, inclusive of legal action (civil or criminal), to make the funding happen any faster.

There is clear intent by posters on this forum to defame COR and thankfully sound minds to represent the truth outside of their clear intent to reclaim power.

by WakeUpNow March 8, 2011 12:12 AM

I agree this site isn't about most of yesterday's posts.
But I really don't like being called Girlie, B---,C---,
etc. And I don't think the F word is needed either. Just for the effect, why. We have all heard it before, it doesn't belong here especiallu when it is F---You.
So I am guilty of throwing words back in retaliation, it is human nature, when you are attacked, attack back.
We should try and stick to the issues at hand.

Some here believe COR will fund some don't.
Some have taken up their cases with the authorities, some have not.
Some apparently are COR themselves.
Some are Project Partners, Some not.
Some are just interested parties.
Some are digruntled Partners, former Partners.
Some maybe Brokers
And the list goes on, we are all here for different reasons. We all want answers.

by DoNotBelieve March 8, 2011 9:12 AM

Then don’t knock anyone for who they say they are and quit throwing in the negativity every time something positive is presented. They only way to get answers is to come to the table with the truth. Who in their right mind will say they received funds if they didn’t. No one has time to lie for COR and I’m sure COR does not have the time to be concern about this blog as much as one may think. The only one that may have posted on this blog from COR is J.R. and I am certain she won’t ever do that again. Plus, I’m sure we all agree that there is definitely one true idiot that post here and as long as we detach ourselves from him and his nonsense we can have true dialogue.

I am a true partner and I believe this too shall pass. Obviously the COR team are rookies at this, but they will get it done soon. by Conway20 March 8, 2011 10:27 AM

Conway

I don't knock anyone for who they say they are. I am not sure evryone on this site is always telling the truth.
I have said all along I am friend of a Project Partner and everybody wants to claim different. I am a friend and that is the truth.

I am however not as confident as you in the fact that COR will fund. There is just too much negative information for me to accept that. But that is my opinion from all that I have been told and found out on my own. Your opinion is COR will fund. We just don't agree on the same outcome for various reasons.

My friend has indeed met with the authorities and they do feel there is a case for Fraud and other allegations. I am just relaying what has transpired.

I do agree we need to stop the name calling and childish behavior. There is no place for it.

At this point we agree to disagree. At some point this will end one way or another.

by DoNotBelieve March 8, 2011 10:51 AM

Conway

I did not address your comment about "Who in their right mind will say they received funds if they didn't."

For most on this blog who have been waiting for funding for two years or more. I would think they would have a real problem believing one person received funding out of all the Project Partners. It is just too convenient to be believeable. Not one other person from this site, which has been around since August, has received funding.
You got to know they aren't going to believe it.
And there have been too many lies over the past 6 months with no proof to make people believe it.
That's the way it is.

by DoNotBelieve March 8, 2011 11:05 AM

First of all, whether you believe someone is telling the truth or not does not matter, simply because you are not a partner. You could never understand where we are because you are not engaged as we are. Plus, according to you, your friend does not know you are on this blog in the manner that you are. That alone is not good. And to tell the blog that your friend has gone to the authorities in my opinion is only an attempt to scare those that are hanging in there with COR. If I was to go to the authorities then the blog is the last place I will share this information because I do not want to hinder any possible investigation and give COR any chance to have a counter measure. I am certain if your friend had shared with the authorities that he will post his actions on the internet they will be totally against it. The blog is meaningless at that point.

As I stated before, a partner that falls under the same broker as I do received a wire and he has been on board for 16 months and to this day is pissed off because that little money does nothing for his project. That's a fact. by Conway20 March 8, 2011 11:34 AM

I was trying to be honest and tell it like it is. That is everything that has transpired.
My friend does tell me everything and shows me all pertinent messages and Emails. We go back a long way and trust each other completely.It is what it is.
I will continue to forward any necessary information for those with questions if I have anything for them.

It is the promise of millions for the $20,000 fee. Is too good to be true. I know there are percentages involved also, and I also know the Broker, or at least his Broker, get a Percentage every time he receives a disbursement. What Due Diligence was done on these projects? My friend, there was none. You can pull up any sort of figures you want, I know he did and is reaching to say the least.

Still too good to be true for me to believe.

That is just how I feel. by DoNotBelieve March 8, 2011 12:07 PM

Well I see the dirtbags have been busy running thur the past post attempting to do the same as some of you and I have. The difference is that the post by the victims at the time of posting were hopful ones and not wild claims of being funded or to have seen some master bank account or the continued lies and delays.

I will remind you slags that you will go to jail and it will be a long stay.

So I will point out just a few more things to have you pounder over.

1. If there were such an account which there is not. But if any real Joint/venture company would have provided account information to it's clients.

2. The SEC,FTC and a whole bunch of other agencies would also know about this so called master account. There isn't a penny that comes into this country that isn't accounted for and known where it's from and going to.

3.If Cor was legit I am sure they would have opened there doors long ago as well as there records to those that questioned there ability to profrom and to share with there clients.

4. The fact that there are so many federal and private legal agencies and collection agencies looking for the members of Cor stand to reason that this is nothing more then a scam and that Cor is nothing more then a Criminal Organization operating only to scam Millions of dollars with the promise of funding the victims project.and after the 20k fee is taken the line of communication is cut to a minimum only to receive short and meanless e-mails some filled with promises of eminent Funding only to receive after the date has come and gone another delaying message just another in a long line of excuses and delay's.

The Dirtbags here are Cor and know it they try to bully and discredit those of you that point out there lies and diceitful post.

As I posted I have completed my investigation of this Criminal Organization and yes that what it is being labeled as now. The facts are in and continue to pour in from more and more Victims those that have been following this blog without comment or post and some of those that are here. The list of so called rangers that have called and came in to give statements is amazing and growing and of course the surprize deal of one of the dirtbags is making.Well to put it mildly took me back in my saddle.

I droped another hint as to when the hammer would drop I see that too went over there heads must be the dope.

Oh why would you need a pass port for a us territory???? by The fly March 8, 2011 4:06 PM

Question Dirtbag #1

I just want to get a few things clear if you are a victim of this and I know your not your apart of this Crime but just for giggles and grins how or why is it you have so much inside information and you know or claim to know how much The criminal Organization known as Cor has taken in as listed before in one of your feb,2011 post can you answer that one Slag/DUDD by The fly March 8, 2011 4:29 PM

It must be computer time. Should you be using your next 3 hours to work on your appeal or GED? Use your time wisely before you get back to your cell husband. At least read some of the post here to get a grasp on structuring, but please don’t comment. Your version of the English language is a disgrace. by Conway20 March 8, 2011 4:29 PM

Hey Condom20

How are you doing today Dirtbag. I bet changing cell phones as many times as you have been doing the past few weeks is getting old to say the less.

Hows the other dirtbag have y'all talked em back in there confort zone?????????

Your going to jail dirtbag for a long time and the funny thing about it is your own kind is turning you in what a kick in the head But thats crooks for ya when it comes to facing all those years in jail loyalty goes right out the window for a deal and a chance to stay out of jail. Good luck with your Cell husband Dirtbag and with the mouth on you I am sure y'all are going to be right popular. by The fly March 8, 2011 4:57 PM

I don’t know if to pray for you or let you continue on your downward path. You need a lot of help. You may notice that no one will respond to you again. Don't hurt yourself behind it. by Conway20 March 8, 2011 5:06 PM

You know sometimes I just can't help myself with the typos and carefully placed misspellings. But it's time to dial back the country cowboy humor and stick to the point at hand.

Hey Slags/Dirtbags

You want to know why I am still here and what is my stake in all of this mess.

Remember the riddle I left for you Dirtbags if you come up long enough from that dope it will tell you all you need to know.

Oh yea Dirtbag enjoy the weather there in Puerto Rico take as many deep breaths of fresh free air as you can cause it will be a long time before you have a chance to do that again by The fly March 8, 2011 5:09 PM

You Know I thought for a long time I had a funny middle name. parents what can you say I think it's there way of getting back or they just don't think at the time they slaped it on ya. But Benicio dang dirtbag all in all it's not a real bad one by The fly March 8, 2011 5:21 PM

Hey Dirtbag

You still don't get it I'm not here for them I'm here you YOU DIRTBAG!!!!! (SMILE) by The fly March 8, 2011 5:29 PM

Dang I was in such a rush I didn't correct the typos before sending so I will resent it in the manner and form it was intended.

You still don't get it.I'm not here for them I'm here for YOU DIRTBAG(S)!!!!!!!!!(SMILE) by The fly March 8, 2011 5:44 PM

Candelaria PR by The fly March 8, 2011 6:08 PM

Well Dirtbags

It seems that a visit to Trenton Michigan was fruitful. Thats all I'm going to say about that connection. by The fly March 8, 2011 6:20 PM

Can anyone explain to me - Why is there so much overwheming negative information about COR on the web? There is not one peice of positive news or info I can find.

It would good to see something positive they have done, Some "project partner" funded, Some project built Something......

COR people in the house..... What's up with that?

by summerheat March 8, 2011 6:42 PM

Everyone got quiet because Dudd, err Alberto promised to send out a funding schedule. More false promises, more time with no funding.

Dudd, you copied a post that I made from November and suggested that there are 2 of me. The difference is that in November, I was skeptical but still buying into the B.S. I've been lied to too many times since then to believe. Give it up, it's over. Any small amount sent now will only have to be returned when the scheme is rolled back.

I prayed and GOD opened my eyes to the fact that Cor wasn't real. He'll do the same for you guys as well if only you'll listen with your heart and your head.

by SeriouslyC'mon March 8, 2011 6:45 PM

COR people in the house............. it is about time you have some real "success stories" and "real funding" that people can see and touch or people would have no other choice but to think the COR group and Mr. Colon was nothing more than a charlatan organization.

by summerheat March 8, 2011 7:00 PM

COR people in the house.............

When are we going to SEE the press releases of these long anticipated funding?

Better yet... When are we going to see "the cutting of ribbons" to commence the start of these grand projects. Ok, let me guess..... THE FUNDING AND THE CUTTING OF THE RIBBONS HAPPENS ONLY IN THE MINDS OF MR. COLON.

It is the perfect opportunity for COR to prove to the world that they are not just a bunch of frauds.

by summerheat March 8, 2011 7:30 PM

Don't hold your breath. The most you can expect based on past performance is an announcement that an announcement with funding schedules is forthcoming.

by SeriouslyC'mon March 8, 2011 8:02 PM

Ok out there in COR Land

The word for the day is TIMING. The new update says they are having TIMING issues. They are looking at...hold on now, hold your breath...Friday through next Wednesday!
Yep you heard here!

Look what you are putting these poor people through. Don't you have any conscience at all. Tell them the truth and let them go. There is no Funding. Please be honest and let everybody get on with something else! by DoNotBelieve March 8, 2011 8:37 PM

Update:

We are having problems with the Timing of the disbursements.

How could anybody believe this BS?!

by DoNotBelieve March 8, 2011 8:42 PM

I have the sense that if Alberto and his cronies on this site walked up to some of the partners and kicked them in the nuts, they would somehow justify his need to have done it. This "update" is amateurish. I realize that many don't have any other option, but I would hope that you realize that he's just playing with you now.

by SeriouslyC'mon March 8, 2011 8:49 PM

SC'mon

I really am doing this for my friend. I realized it before he even started, I tried to talk him out of it.
He does realize it now, unfortunately it has cost him more than just money!

by DoNotBelieve March 8, 2011 8:57 PM

It looks as though everybody read Alberto's lengthy message, along with the message from the Project Partners message about them going together to the authorities.

It seems to have had an effect!

by DoNotBelieve March 9, 2011 8:32 AM

Maybe folks are getting tired of posting bullshit or maybe the anonymous email(er) realize he should have been a man about it for his scare tatic may have backfired. by Conway20 March 9, 2011 8:54 AM

Are you saying the Email from the Project Partners to Alberto was anonymous?
I read it I guess maybe it wasn't signed.

Ending was: It's up to you from here.

I guess maybe that was the last thing on the page.

by DoNotBelieve March 9, 2011 9:25 AM

It might as well have come from this damn blog. by Conway20 March 9, 2011 9:36 AM

Conway:

Are you seriously suggesting that the posts on this blog are going to hold up the funding of a group that supposedly has hundreds of millions of dollars to disburse? Bullshit!

Are you suggesting that Cor is going to try to seek revenge against people that they've screwed over for the past two years? Bullshit!

Are you suggesting that Cor is going to try this as a lame excuse for not executing under their contract? Exactly!

Which statement is untrue:

Cor hasn't funded.
Cor hasn't demonstrated an ability to fund.
Cor has provided funding dates that are long past due.
The project partners have and are collectively and individually filing complaints.
Cor or their proponents have posted under ficticious names and identities to support the scheme (DoD and Jeffery Bernard)
No one can offer proof of receipt of funds from Cor.

by SeriouslyC'mon March 9, 2011 10:20 AM

SeriouslyC'mon

I think after reading it again,(the message that is).

Your statement about "suggesting that COR is going to try this as a lame excuse for not executing under their contract." Is probably right on track.

by DoNotBelieve March 9, 2011 10:42 AM

@SeriouslyC'mon
Your mind is all twisted. I have not suggested a thing, but I would bet my last dollar that the email came from one of you. I personally think Colon was too polite in his response. I would say to hell with whoever he has discovered to be behind the emails and the disparaging remarks being made on this blog and anywhere else. I wouldn’t give the fool a dime. I wouldn't care if the fool's kids damned him. Worthless cowards. Only a confused fool would think an email or this blog would slow the funding down. by Conway20 March 9, 2011 11:49 AM

Hey Condom20/Dirtbag

Well???????????????? by The fly March 9, 2011 1:38 PM

The so called latest update is nothing more then another delay tatic the scugsbags are trying to put there pennies together to make one token deal go thur thinking that will somehow show that they are legit but it still won't work as from the inside arguing disagreements and the fact of those that have already filed complaints with the feds and the outstanding Millions in collections and civil suits that are pounding at Cor's and the dirtbags doors before one penny of so called funding monies is paid out they must first address those issues and the taxes attached and answere a fire storm of questions.

This delay or excuse will of course lead to yet another and well you all know the drill.

by The fly March 9, 2011 2:02 PM

Candelaria PR

by The fly March 9, 2011 2:14 PM

Trenton Michigan, Candelaria, PR..... Wow! You getting hot. Keep up the good officer. I got a merit badge with your name on it. by Conway20 March 9, 2011 2:25 PM

I will redirect your attention to the post 2 months ago posted By one of the dirtbags using yet another screen name.

Now before I post this I would like to also redirect your attention to the statement that one so called person was funded But the dirtbag 2 months ago makes the same claim of being funded yet there is no proof of this it would seem that DoOrDie/Dirtbag would be the paid poster child for Cor to shut down all of the so called nay-sayers(OMG)

First of all, I am a paid project partner that believes. It’s just that simple and that’s my talk and walk.

Do you read what you type? You are all over the place.

 they are funding terrorist
 their funds are about to be frozen
 their funds are frozen
 they have no money
 they are under investigation

If there is truly an ongoing investigation generated by you or “someone you know” – like DoNotBelieve does; you would not be diffusing it. Why would you give the accused any chance of knowing what is about to emerge? Don’t tell me – because they are being watch 24/7 and there is no way for them to flee or change what has already started and you want to warn us so we can pull out before it is to late – Yeah right!

For those that wish to know whether this Texas hard working country BOY is telling the truth, feel free to contact Lisa Madigan, Illinois Attorney General or Michael Pavia, Chicago's FBI Chief Counsel for any past or present investigations against COR and their personnel. You will be surprise to what they would have to say. - I was.

Until then, you can put your boots in the oven, but that don't make em biscuits. Only a Texas hard working country BOY know what that means.

by DoOrDie January 22, 2011 6:18 PM

As you well know now that the attempts to discredit and deture those of you that have filed and found out for your selfs all I posted without giving out too much information was and is true and continue's to be true as to the latest hints I hope they will be helpful to you by The fly March 9, 2011 2:39 PM

Hey there Condom20/Dirtbag

Well?????????????????????? by The fly March 9, 2011 2:41 PM

Awwww. You are trying so hard. Unlike you, great minds think alike and some things are just common sense. If you have not noticed, I'm the only one that may respond to you because I'm doing a study on anti-human behavior of the dodo bird. You are irrefutably a fascinating study. by Conway20 March 9, 2011 3:07 PM

Hey Dirtbag

Have you figured out my little riddle??????? Aer you enjoying your self. How was that meeting last night. by The fly March 9, 2011 3:17 PM

@Condom20

Why Thank you for your continued interest I do what I can. I must say it is good to see you oozed out from underneath your dark wet place to join us here today.

I must say the read on your friend from Michigan made for interesting reading the person has a twisted sense of humor but from the read it fits em. Nothing wrong with that just saying is all

by The fly March 9, 2011 3:36 PM

Well dirtbag sounds like a great study may I make a suggesion???

As you are read through your very fascinating study I would like to point out a saying that fits you and the rest of your lying band of Dirtbags(Gone the way of the dodo) thats you and Cor Slag Look that one up by The fly March 9, 2011 3:47 PM

@Condom20 and other Dirtbags

Oops!! Sorry I forgot the ing in reading I wouldn't want you to think ill of my sentance structuring or grammer by The fly March 9, 2011 4:13 PM

IP SWEEP by The fly March 9, 2011 5:12 PM

Sweet angel AKA JR

It is a pleasure to have you here I would hope that in your next meeting with the others that you presude them to stop all of this nonsense and turn themselfs in I would hope you would still have some control over them.

Y'all have a great and thanks for the input by The fly March 9, 2011 5:46 PM

Looks like everybody must have gotten the cease and desist message!
They were scared off.

by DoNotBelieve March 9, 2011 6:14 PM

Do we really have a bunch of folks who have been scared off by a guy who continues to lie to them and who has to this point defrauded them? I doubt it.

Perhaps it's more likely that we are really only dealing with one or two guys speaking out in favor on this site. The people who speak in favor tend to do so in bunches. Maybe they all get recess at the same time or maybe it's the same guy. Conway has told the Fly that he will be the only one that responds to him from now on. How could he know that? Did they have a secret meeting about this? Is Conway the dominant personality amongst all those in his head? Reminds me of the 24 hour boycott last month. It must have been easy to organize if only one guy. Laughable.

Conway said that he wouldn't give any of the naysayers any funds. So far, Cor has held firm to this. In fact, they haven't given anyone any money!

Alberto, your project partners going silent should be your final clue that the end is upon you.

by SeriouslyC'mon March 9, 2011 8:43 PM

I’m physic. Guess what else I see. You will not get your money back and you will not get funded. So keep whining and bitching because you are not going to do anything about it. by Conway20 March 9, 2011 9:00 PM

Naysayers are one thing, but the buttholes that make up lies to prove their frustration and hatred is another. So get it straight.

I’m the only one posting because I’m on duty today. by Conway20 March 9, 2011 9:15 PM

Let me get this straight, you have actively discussed which of you is going to come on this site to provide the false reassurances?

Can you say "co-conspirator"?

Please tell me which of my questions/statements from earlier today was a lie? And you think that my mind is twisted? Get a clue.

by SeriouslyC'mon March 9, 2011 9:59 PM

I'm on the for funding side still. Do I need to take a turn on duty? by screenname22 March 9, 2011 10:29 PM

LoL! And I thought The fly was the only butt-head. SeriouslyC'mon is paranoid. by Conway20 March 9, 2011 11:15 PM

That follows the norm. When presented with the facts, you reply with name calling. Paranoid? Waiting nearly two years for a process that was contractually committed to take only 60 days leads to appropriate accusations.

Why are you being so naive? by SeriouslyC'mon March 10, 2011 10:01 AM

Hello fellow bloggers.

Does anyone have any current information on our funders?
It would seem that we have heard Friday thru Wednesday?
Any comments? by screenname22 March 10, 2011 10:35 AM

My friend also heard Friday through Wednesday.

Now if you believe that I have some swampland to sell!

At least he is resigned to the fact this is just another false statement.

by DoNotBelieve March 10, 2011 11:18 AM

Funny thing about hope, no matter true or false it gives you something to live for.
If I was stranded on the moon and knew I only had two hours if oxygen left. I would still hold to the chance of rescue.
Now how much is that swamp land? I can give gator tours and make a lot of money.
Of course that was being funny. I do believe your outlook on life is what takes you through. by screenname22 March 10, 2011 11:43 AM

SC22
I think you have a better chance on the moon with two hours of oxygen left to be rescued then you do of being funded by COR.

If it was me I would hold on to the rescue thought also
in that situation.

Swampland right along Alligator Alley, might work.

by DoNotBelieve March 10, 2011 11:54 AM

I applaud your attitude. It's one thing to have not funded, but the meaningless updates are just playing with people and not allowing them to get on with picking up the pieces and moving on with things that are real.

by SeriouslyC'mon March 10, 2011 11:55 AM

SC'Mon

I think it is time to just realize this COR Funding isn't going to happen. Finish the steps you have taken with the authorities and look for other possibilities.

It is horrible how they just play with people's emotions.
It really is sick!

Some of these people have suffered great loses which are all not necessarily monetary. by DoNotBelieve March 10, 2011 12:16 PM

Get your money out if possible. If you are hanging on to a funding dream please just find a corporate law firm in your area, find the contact information of one of the firms corporate finance/venture capital attorneys and send them a brief email describing your experience with COR. They will likely reply quickly and either (A) inform you that the procedures followed by COR are 100% out of the normal venture capital company procedures and raise every red flag imaginable of a Scam/Fraudulent Investment; or (B) tell you to seek legal counsel immediately.

This site needs to leave the name calling aside and focus on what is important = hard working people with great ideas are having their money stolen from them. Stick to the facts.

Speaking of a fact: Here is a link to a story about one of the COR Rangers = Click Hereby COR Scam March 10, 2011 1:12 PM

COR Scam
Thanks already know about that. There is actually another arrest of the same Ranger on different charges.
I will see if I can find it and let you know.

I totally agree with your remarks.

What is your position at this point? Have you been a victim of COR also?

by DoNotBelieve March 10, 2011 1:21 PM

Actually that is an update from yesterday.
Thanks!

by DoNotBelieve March 10, 2011 1:25 PM

DoNotBelieve

I do not have a connection to the COR projects. However my interest was hightened at a recent networking lunch I attended when a colleague of mine brought up COR. A client of his had contributed $20,000 over a year ago, with the promise of receiving funding, but has not received one penny to date. The only thing his client has been given is one excuse after another. My colleague and I got into a discussion about the documents, procedures, follow up, venture capital strategies/terms, that COR had used/discussed with his client and they were laughable. Obviously with the limited information I have it is impossible for me to speak in absolute terms, but I am concerned that many entrepreneurs are being sucked into these agreements and not only losing money - but also losing large chunks of time as they continue to hang onto the dream that COR will fund one day (honestly that is the part that bugs me the most). I hope that is not the case, but to this point my research has not provided any positive signs in CORs favor.

Having said that my goal is to find out more information. I have contacted the IL Attorney Generals office (because it appears that COR was formed under IL law or is at least based out of IL) to determine if they have any information, if COR has been or is being investigated, etc. I tried to get information on the COR website but you need a username and password to access it = HUGE RED FLAG = People are supposed to believe that COR is a legit venture capital firm, that funds hundreds of millions of dollars in venture capital projects, HOWEVER they do not have an accesible website that potential business owners/entrepreneurs and the public in general can easily access??

This site serves a great purpose (other than when the name calling garbage gets going). I for one do not have any interest either for or against COR. What I am looking for is information from either side (i.e. COR defending their procedures, showing evidence of a project funded, success stories of a business that was funded by COR and has been successful etc. OR Individuals who contributed funds, are waiting to have their projects funded and have run into the same BS excuses that my friends client did.)

Just looking for answers....not name calling, meaningless information, etc. Just hard facts to support COR or to prove that COR is a scam.