I've watched Live8 as much as possible from 2PM until the end. I recorded almost all on DVD.

I was waiting for Pink Floyd as much as anyone else in this thread. I read they would be on near the end and thought... "Crikey, they'd really be doing something special then."

I skipped much of the present-day bands, acting as if they're up there on status like PF, The Who, Paul McCartney and Madonna and what else has real class and status.

In Berlin were some real morons on stage, but... ah well.

I was wondering what the Who were going to do, but that was PHENOMENAL!

Granted, it's the titles of CSI and CSI:Miami so they took a fairly safe 2 numbers to keep in touch with the young crowd, but MAN! It still shows older groups out-perform those new ones.

I also liked Robbie Williams, as he is always great with the audiences.

But then, Gilmour, Water, Mason, Wright... Phew... I mean... On 1 stage... God, as said in the audience: PIGS CAN FLY!

If they'd played all numbers all day, I'd have been in pigs-heaven. And how wonderfully precise and great their skills are still, even though they are not that active anymore performing, and also, for the first time in over 20 years, it sounded like only yesterday they last performed together.

Gilmour hasn't aged in his voice, what a great voice still and nothing indicated he was 20 years older then he sounded on The Wall or TFC.

Waters, as evidenced from the In the Flesh tours and prior to that, has suffered in his voice, but still, all together, what a sight, what a way to re-unite.

One could only hope for more, but realistically, you have to agree it's not likely.

It did look that Roger was more moved with the reunion than Gilmour, as it was Roger who voiced his feelings during the performance, and also gestured Gilmour for the hug afterwards.

A great moment in music-history, and a profound day for human history.

Even though all characters seem to tumble over each other during the whole of SW and keep running into each other, we never ever see another Protocol Droid identical to 3PO, nor an astromech identical to R2.

We've seen a chrome, a white and a red 3PO, but the only golden one is 3PO. Also, his voice is very unique compared to those other ones.

We've also seen many different astromecyhs, but none were identical to R2 in every bit.

Vader, even glancing over to 3PO, or especially hearing his voice, should have a moment of recognition, not neccesarily that that is HIS 3PO, but at least something.

But, it could very well be that, like his true name, that droid he made as a kid has no meaning for him anymore.

Maul was almost perfect as is. I think given the oppretunity to flesh out his character with subsequent film apearances could have ruined the character.

Gotta agree. As awesome as the character was, had Lucas given more back story to Maul, it would have ended up like what he did with Boba. No mystery or intrigue if you knew so much about where the character came from.

What is so "awesome" about him?

That he does some fancy sabre-work? That's all?

Boba Fett technically does nothing fancy in TESB and ROTJ, but he had a presence.

JAngo Fett, despite all his fight and flight antics, I don't care a bit about him.

Dooku was for more interesting than MAul and Fett and Grievous and Zam and who else put together in the PT. Dooku HAD a backstory, Dooku had charisma as said before, and he could dominate a scene by his sheer presence. Off course, having him played by Chistopher Lee is no small feat either and adds a lot of weight to it, but still, it's an old geeser, yet he shoots younglings like Fett and Maul clear out of the water.

Funny, you talk about self-fulfilling prophecies, but all these are not of that kind.

A self fullfilling prophecy is like saying when it rains, I prophecise we shall become wet or something like that.

The fact Anakin, in his quest to find the power to save Padmé, becomes the one who actually kills Padmé is not a SFP. It's mostly a tragic aspect.

If Plagueis is indeed responsible for Anakin's birth, or Sidious is, the fact that, although Anakin established the Sith's rule and purge of the Jedi, he also is the single factor in destroying the Sith, as prophecised, is not a self-fulfilling prophecy.

SFP's have that "Yeah well duh..." aspect. The Jedi prophecy, Anakin's destiny, both are not.

I think people will see the total lack of the Emperor in ANH as strange, given he's very prominent in Ep 1 to 3. I suspect that there will be some kind of Vader-Emperor scene in ANH edited in, also to explain why Bad-ass Vader suddenly plays second fiddle to Tarkin.

I hope there are no more changes. There don't need to be anymore, unless he makes Han shoot first.

I don't think it's strange that the Emperor isn't in ANH; I think it adds depth. Even though he does not appear, his presence is still felt. Vader is still there, the Empire is strong, and Tarkin is running the show, This isn't a weakness at all. It would be weaker if the audience had to be reminded about the character. This lets the audeince use their imagination, and piece together information that isn't present. Yoda is not in ANH either, because it would not make sense from a narrative perspective to just insert him. In the first LOTR's film, we don't see any Ents, yet that does not lessen their impact once they appear in the second film.

No offense, but that last bit is a really dumb statement. You try to make the appearance of some character be the same as the lack of a character in one movie after 3 he was in.

You didn't have 3 movies with ents, then one without, and hey, number 5, they're back again.

... also to explain why Bad-ass Vader suddenly plays second fiddle to Tarkin.

Admit, in ANH, Tarkin is the main Bad Guy, and Vader is his evil ruthless henchman.That does not gell with Ep 1 to 3, and 5 + 6.

I think it gels very well, hence the tragedy of Vader is more palpable; in spite of all his power, and attempt to gain more, he is still under the Emperor's thumb (just as he thought he was with the Jedi council), and under Tarkin's "leash" (to quote a certain Princess).

Myeah, your POV. In my view, Vader runs the show in TESB and ROTJ, while in ANH, he really is just some dumb dog for Tarkin.

In TESB, he can unleash all his power, like he did in ROTS. So why oh why, would this tragic hero, this troubled mind, submit himself to being bossed around.

He is the right hand of the Emperor, he helped create the Empire, he secured the Empire by wiping out the Jedi, why would he be content with being told what to do by Tarkin in the way he does in ANH?

"Vader, release him" "As you wish."

Myeah, really connects with that rage Anakin has in ROTS, and what he also shows in the duel in TESB, just before he severs Luke's hand.

You can bet that the next re-release of the OT in a 6-DVD set will contain further changes and improvements.

I think people will see the total lack of the Emperor in ANH as strange, given he's very prominent in Ep 1 to 3. I suspect that there will be some kind of Vader-Emperor scene in ANH edited in, also to explain why Bad-ass Vader suddenly plays second fiddle to Tarkin.

Admit, in ANH, Tarkin is the main Bad Guy, and Vader is his evil ruthless henchman.

Never found him even one bit interesting. As intelligent as a Tyranosaurus, just brawl and no brains.

Even Vader had more charisma than Maul.

I agree that keeping him around would've made the story, as we now know it, difficult.

BUT... with him around for 3 movies, you'd have gotten a different PT, and not neccesarily worse.

The whole issue of the CloneWars could've been dealt differently altogether.

And if Maul had truly been the Vader of the PT, he would've clashed with Anakin in the 3rd part, mirroring the ROTJ-fight, and then the turn of Anakin would've happened in there, not by hacking up Mace.

I find the idea of Qui-Gon being a re-incarnated non-Sith Plagueis rather intriguing, as it ties into 2 aspects:

- His knowledge to live beyond the grave- Plagueis knowledge of how to create life

The 2 interlock. One thing I'm not too keen of is a mind-wipe of QGJ, sounds like what happens to R2 and 3PO.

But, to me, it makes sense. And it would definitely tie TPM and ROTS together, and make sense about Palpatine's whole scheme.

Why was he already so interested in 9 year old Anakin? He hated the Jedi, so why would he be interested in this Jedi-wanabe, if not for the fact that this kid was THE pinnacle of his whole plan, the crux of it all.

Maul and Dooku were really utterly just pawns, filler, to lay the groundwork for Anakin's turn, if this story is true.

This, to me, would make the PT a lot more sensible.

I've been thinking about what Palpatine's plan was. In AOTC he became Supreme Chancellor, he had his power. Apparently, he could've issued Order 66 then as well, the end result would've been the same. The Jedi wiped out.

But he didn't, he needed Anakin, he wanted Anakin. His whole plot, it seems, was directed at Anakin becoming a Sith. So, Anakin cannot just be another Sith as some kind of run-of-the-mill next Sith, as just a replacement for Dooku and Maul.

And as said, Palpatine cries out "Unlimited Power" when Anakin truly turns, I belief that, in this light, Anakin is a catalyst for Unlimited Sith-power.

If this had been interweaved with the PT, it would've all made a lot more sense.