In addition to the damage to the roof of your mouth, if you eat a 1/2 box of Capt Crunch All Crunchberries, then sleep and forget about it, when you go to the bathroom the next day, you WILL freak out.Multi colored everything.Never ate Capt Crunch again.Scary all chemicals.

GreenAdder:The roof!The roof!The roof of your mouth is going to experience a level of pain hitherto unknown by man.

I checked the Capn's crunchy nutrition label but found no mention of fiberglass leavings or diamond shards. And yet I still lose a quart of blood with every bowl and still see a beam of light on my tongue when I stick a flashlight up my nose due to the hole this cereal bored through the roof of my mouth.

I can accept that cereal can have a Cap'n that valiantly fights against an anthropomorphised quality of said cereal, but I'll be dead in the cold cold ground before I accept donuts being crunchy. NO BUYS.

This thread has urged me to eat a giant bowl of Cinnamon Toast Crunch, and in pouring my bowl(and packing my bowl) I took inventory of my cereal shelf, Cinnamon Toast Crunch, Honey-Nut Cheerios, Marshmallow Mateys(bag version on Lucky Charms), Cocoa Krispies, Super Golden Crisp(yeah yeah, I know it's not called that any more) Frosted Flakes, Special K,, and lastly a box of Golden Grahams(how DO they cram all that Graham?*). I like cereal.

ReapTheChaos:Yet everyone blames fast food for making people fat. You want to know why america has an obesity problem, look no further than crap like this and your local grocery store.

No it isn't. Overindulgence is. I looked up the nutritional info. If you ate 2 servings at once, it is only about 220 calories. Add a cup of milk, you get about 350. And that's with whole milk. 350 calories doesn't seem like a terrible breakfast. An egg mcmuffin has 300 calories, not counting the hash browns. The problem is people eating half a box at once, every day.

My mom was a bit progressive for a mom in the 70s. She barred all sugared cereals from the house. She convinced other moms to follow suit. The kids in the neighborhood hated her for a while.

When I attended college, the dorm's cafeteria stocked a cereal I had never seen before: Captain Crunch. Good God.

Oh to return to those days, return to a cold autumn morning with a blood-orange sun sparkling through a stand of old oak trees, walking quietly to class, thinking about Milton's fields and Spinoza's God-space, absolutely positvely jacked out of my crackling mind on coffee and Captain Crunch.

August11:My mom was a bit progressive for a mom in the 70s. She barred all sugared cereals from the house. She convinced other moms to follow suit. The kids in the neighborhood hated her for a while.

When I attended college, the dorm's cafeteria stocked a cereal I had never seen before: Captain Crunch. Good God.

Oh to return to those days, return to a cold autumn morning with a blood-orange sun sparkling through a stand of old oak trees, walking quietly to class, thinking about Milton's fields and Spinoza's God-space, absolutely positvely jacked out of my crackling mind on coffee and Captain Crunch.

No cereals allowed with sugar as the first ingredient at my house.

But I think it was Lucky Charms that I went nuts on as a college freshman.

August11:My mom was a bit progressive for a mom in the 70s. She barred all sugared cereals from the house. She convinced other moms to follow suit. The kids in the neighborhood hated her for a while.

When I attended college, the dorm's cafeteria stocked a cereal I had never seen before: Captain Crunch. Good God.

Oh to return to those days, return to a cold autumn morning with a blood-orange sun sparkling through a stand of old oak trees, walking quietly to class, thinking about Milton's fields and Spinoza's God-space, absolutely positvely jacked out of my crackling mind on coffee and Captain Crunch.

Mmm, grad school...those sweet halcyon days of popping a couple Vivodin before getting blasted out of my head with triple espressos and an anti-anxiety pill.

Sure I was a little jittery, but by three in the afternoon I was finally coming down and ready for a tub of Frostred Flakes..and two sandwiches...and a swimming pool of gumbo... (I had the munchies is what I'm getting at.)

devildog123:ReapTheChaos: Yet everyone blames fast food for making people fat. You want to know why america has an obesity problem, look no further than crap like this and your local grocery store.

No it isn't. Overindulgence is. I looked up the nutritional info. If you ate 2 servings at once, it is only about 220 calories. Add a cup of milk, you get about 350. And that's with whole milk. 350 calories doesn't seem like a terrible breakfast. An egg mcmuffin has 300 calories, not counting the hash browns. The problem is people eating half a box at once, every day.

I disagree with you to an extent. Calories are good in the sense that they can be used to quantify the energy density of any given food. However, the notion that one must count calories or take in less than one expends goes against everything that is known about biochemistry. Your body doesn't see food simply as calories. It sees it as the various macronutrients which make up the food you consume: namely sugar, fat, and protein. Your body metabolizes those three components in completely different ways.

If I were to eat a quarter pound worth of bacon, that would be on the order of around 800 calories, equivalent (by your reasoning) to eating 7-8 servings (~6 cups) of this particular cereal. But look at just one huge difference in the composition of that food: with the cereal I would be consuming around 160g of carbohydrates. With the bacon, zero. You think that the body is processing these two foods exactly the same, just because they have identical caloric content? That quarter pound of bacon won't even register with regard to insulin secretion, whereas the cereal will cause your pancreas to go into overdrive.

Additionally, being meat, the bacon will provide you with around 20g of protein, keeping your hunger levels down. The cereal, almost zero. After succumbing to the inevitable sugar crash, you'll be hungry again in no time.

And that's part of the real problem - we consume way too much sugar in everything that we eat. It's in everything available to us in the grocery store. Our bodies did not evolve in the presence of such unprecedented access to carbohydrates. Our genes have developed over time to efficiently utilize the proteins, fats, oils, and carbohydrates found in fruits/vegetables (and their associated high fiber contents, which prevent overconsumption).

So yes, you are right that overindulgence is part of the obesity problem. However, it is not overindulgence of calories. It is overindulgence of carbohydrate-rich foods. Isocaloric does not equal isometabolic.

rjsjayhawk:devildog123: ReapTheChaos: Yet everyone blames fast food for making people fat. You want to know why america has an obesity problem, look no further than crap like this and your local grocery store.

No it isn't. Overindulgence is. I looked up the nutritional info. If you ate 2 servings at once, it is only about 220 calories. Add a cup of milk, you get about 350. And that's with whole milk. 350 calories doesn't seem like a terrible breakfast. An egg mcmuffin has 300 calories, not counting the hash browns. The problem is people eating half a box at once, every day.

I disagree with you to an extent. Calories are good in the sense that they can be used to quantify the energy density of any given food. However, the notion that one must count calories or take in less than one expends goes against everything that is known about biochemistry. Your body doesn't see food simply as calories. It sees it as the various macronutrients which make up the food you consume: namely sugar, fat, and protein. Your body metabolizes those three components in completely different ways.

If I were to eat a quarter pound worth of bacon, that would be on the order of around 800 calories, equivalent (by your reasoning) to eating 7-8 servings (~6 cups) of this particular cereal. But look at just one huge difference in the composition of that food: with the cereal I would be consuming around 160g of carbohydrates. With the bacon, zero. You think that the body is processing these two foods exactly the same, just because they have identical caloric content? That quarter pound of bacon won't even register with regard to insulin secretion, whereas the cereal will cause your pancreas to go into overdrive.

Additionally, being meat, the bacon will provide you with around 20g of protein, keeping your hunger levels down. The cereal, almost zero. After succumbing to the inevitable sugar crash, you'll be hungry again in no time.

And that's part of the real problem - we consume way too much sugar in everything that we eat. It's in everything available to us in the grocery store. Our bodies did not evolve in the presence of such unprecedented access to carbohydrates. Our genes have developed over time to efficiently utilize the proteins, fats, oils, and carbohydrates found in fruits/vegetables (and their associated high fiber contents, which prevent overconsumption).

So yes, you are right that overindulgence is part of the obesity problem. However, it is not overindulgence of calories. It is overindulgence of carbohydrate-rich foods. Isocaloric does not equal isometabolic.