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Well, I was trying point out that there were reasons of screentime and SOS-dan event participation for preferring Imouto over Asakura, and to be funny at the same time. Obviously, I FAILED at both, and managed to look like a flame to boot. Sorry about that, chief.

And yeah, I'm biased. I voted for Kyon and Yuki only. So Miss AA+ is not so high on my list

First off IF your apoilgising to me, no problem I don't really care, it's hard to tell and I'm tired. Second That's your opinion not mine so I don't really care and as I stated in a pervious post I respect yuki she just not my favourite character.

Well, I was trying point out that there were reasons of screentime and SOS-dan event participation for preferring Imouto over Asakura, and to be funny at the same time. Obviously, I FAILED at both, and managed to look like a flame to boot. Sorry about that, chief.

And yeah, I'm biased. I voted for Kyon and Yuki only. So Miss AA+ is not so high on my list

Yeah, but listing a bunch of trivial actions of Imouto against important things Asakura failed to do and declaring Asakura a failure makes it seem more like an argument about their competence, where it's misleading. I guess I like Asakura enough that I didn't take it as a joke. My bad.

Personally I'm surprised her following is so small just because it's so common for villains to rival main characters in popularity, to say nothing of tertiaries like Imouto.

Personally I'm surprised her following is so small just because it's so common for villains to rival main characters in popularity, to say nothing of tertiaries like Imouto.

I agree that villains are often popular, but the differences in SHnY are; the series in no way centers around said villainy, there's no simmering rivalry, and Ryoko simply disappears - she is totally absent from the middle of Ep 10 onwards in aired order, and it's even worse in chronological order. The popular villains are vanquished in the final or penultimate episodes, if they are defeated at all.

We'll agree to disagree on the tertiari-ness of Imouto. I'd call it secondari-ness instead

The only villain in this show is the situation itself that they must confront. Even Ryoko is simply confronting the situation in her own way. Hardly villainous.. more like innocent about the concept of death.

The only villain in this show is the situation itself that they must confront. Even Ryoko is simply confronting the situation in her own way. Hardly villainous.. more like innocent about the concept of death.

True; since she IS a data entity, Ryoko admitted herself that she knew nothing of the concept of death or pain for that matter. For that reason, it's not totally her fault for trying to rush her job a bit.

What she knows about death is immaterial; she's so singular in her purpose that I doubt a personal understanding of death would change her actions, and she has to at least have understood the significance we assign it given how well-developed her ability to empathize and interact with humans was.

But I don't think this is really about whether she has evil intent as much as her role in the series. She's a potent antagonist who menaces the main character, so calling her a villain seems appropriate even if she doesn't act out of malice.

The villain gains power, and holds our hero and the Scooby Gang in her thrall. Then in Melancholy 4 there's this weird plot line where Ryoko Hinckley Jr. tries to assassinate Kyon Reagan in order to impress Haruhi Foster, but Nancy Nagato stops the attempt and eliminates Ryoko.

Once that's over with, in Melancholy 6 the villain unleashes her strongest threat against the world to date, but Kyon with the aid of the Scooby Gang manage to thwart the villain, with a kiss, no less.

OK, then there are episodes where the Good Guys go on excursions to baseball games and deserted islands, play computer games, and join rock bands with the villain. Not exactly your usual Scooby Gang vs. Villain interactions, but I did say things would be strange.

So there are problems like lack of evil intent, and hanging out with the villain everyday in the clubhouse is weird too. But I think we could open new vistas in The Analysis of Haruhi Suzumiya with this bold new interpretation...

I think we can all agree on some level that Haruhi is Kyon's worst adversary.

It works the other way around, too
I've compared these two characters to Don Quixote and Sancho Panza elsewhere, and the more I think about it, the more it totally works. Although Kyon's quite a bit smarter and less permissive than Sancho

Well Don Quixote's malencholy comes with later on when his body fails him... before he feels the indignation to chivery ideal and sets forth to right that. I thought of the same thing as fatpianoboy at first of Haruhi but comes to conclude her as a tragic greek heroine in a greek comedy.

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My votes went out to:
Nagato-san (first and foremost)
Haruhi (kind of had to in my opinion)
Asahina-san (she's just too cute)
Kyon (laid back, main character, story is told through his eyes)

Nagato was first and foremost because... I really don't know. The fact that she's the crazy ass humanoid interface that could get stabbed multiple times and not die, do almost anything at super human speed, recite incantations that do some of the craziest things, and in my opinion was the best character in the show. I don't know, maybe I'm just partial to the silent yet extremely off the wall types that wear glasses (At least for the first few episodes)

Haruhi, well, I don't think I can really exclude her, can I? The show is mostly centered around her. Eccentric, God-like, almost always detached from reality, she was a funny character. Sure, she was really annoying at times and you sometimes wanted to rip her head off, but in the end she turned out alright.

Asahina-san was just plain cute. She was one of those characters that you just wanted to hug like a teddy bear. She was nervous, sometimes inept, more than often than not being used at the whim of Haruhi, she carried a lot of the comic relief to the table and made me smile.

Kyon is just an overall cool guy. The story being told in his point of view, he provided a unique perspective that would not have been achieved if it was your standard 3rd person setup. I haven't seen many shows with a first person viewpoint to them and it was pretty refreshing to see that in this anime. That, and the fact that I thought this guy was a badass. That last move he made in the last episode, saying some things that I never thought would ever really fly with a girl before you kiss her, well. Actions do speak louder than words at this point.

Haruhi because, well... Maybe because of her weirdness and insane ideas. And an overall fun character.
Well, Mikuru... she's just too cute, I guess. :P Cannot resist that. And the way she starts shivering in fear when Haruhi is about to present one of her new ideas is hilarious.

My favorite character is Tsuruya since she's sociable and "megas" cute.

My second is Yuki especially after...

Spoiler for the anime:

episode 10. The scene where she grabs Asakura's knife was just plain...cool. I like how she's a quiet observer that solves problems when the need arises. Oh yeah, and we can't forget the stare she gave at Kyon in episode 11 when she asked for permission to alter the program.