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My fellow Brothers and Sisters in Christ, I am seeking scripture that speaks out against my topic. I do not believe that God would come to another induvidual and tell them something that he had intended for the person being told to find out. Here is what I am facing; my relationship of a month shy of two years was ruined by a woman who told my significant other that "God told her that she needed to end our relationship." I cannot blame my Girlfriend for listening to her do to the fact that I am out numbered in this fight. Her Mom, Sister, and Grandparents share the same penocostal holiness faith. She is not that way herself, however her mind could be swayed when the core of her family is in support of this. The woman who told her to do this is a Second cousin whom is more like an Aunt to her and they have always been close. She is the second wife to a man (her third marrige herself) who pastors a church in our area. His congregation is being led by him unknowing of his past life...I guess he doesn't read the book of Timothy...however thats a different discussion. I need verses and most of all prayers because the only way that her and I can make it back together is by God's touch. Thank you friends!

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Matthew 19:6 (KJV) 6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

God is not going to say one thing in His Word, and then say something entirely opposite to man today.

If this woman broke up a marriage that was instituted by God, god would not have told that woman to break up the marriage.

If you had not entered into a marriage contract yet, there really is no Scripture that ixs necessarily against the girlfriend breaking things off.

I appreciate that scripture Brother! Although things hadn't reached a "marital" status we were well on our way. I know that God had crossed our paths and have no doubt that she was brought into my life by his will.

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Unfortunately it sounds like your young lady will need to get on her knees and find God's will for herself. And lots of praying from you as well.

Someone saying these words is very powerful (For a few years I was in a church where they would tell you whether or not they thought a girlfriend or boyfriend was "good enough" to marry or not, without being able to possibly determine God's will for somebody else's life). The only way through it is lots of prayer, and for each of you to find out God's will yourselves. It will be difficult for her to go against her family, so it is very important that she is very, very sure this is right. It will be a hard decision for her to make and it will take lots of prayer.

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My fellow Brothers and Sisters in Christ, I am seeking scripture that speaks out against my topic. I do not believe that God would come to another induvidual and tell them something that he had intended for the person being told to find out. Here is what I am facing; my relationship of a month shy of two years was ruined by a woman who told my significant other that "God told her that she needed to end our relationship." I cannot blame my Girlfriend for listening to her do to the fact that I am out numbered in this fight. Her Mom, Sister, and Grandparents share the same penocostal holiness faith. She is not that way herself, however her mind could be swayed when the core of her family is in support of this. The woman who told her to do this is a Second cousin whom is more like an Aunt to her and they have always been close. She is the second wife to a man (her third marrige herself) who pastors a church in our area. His congregation is being led by him unknowing of his past life...I guess he doesn't read the book of Timothy...however thats a different discussion. I need verses and most of all prayers because the only way that her and I can make it back together is by God's touch. Thank you friends!

As far as the issue of someone telling her that "God told me to tell you..." I agree that this would not be scriptural, I believe. Pentacostals, (and even more so their more-words-added-to-make-them-sound-even-holier) like Pentecostal Holiness Primitive Four-Fold Four-Square Four-Eyes For Rent Assembly of Ancient Baptist Charismatics, etc, often do this whole prophet/prophetess thing, where God tells them to tell other people-if you watch how they work, its really standard fortune-telling. In the Bible, God sent prophets to Kings, to High Priests, to people of great office, who made decisions that affected others; generally we don't see the prophets sent to Miriam the goats-herdress to let her know that one of her goat's has a bad udder. Yet that's exactly what we see with these pentecostal prophets: telling people things like, "God has great plans for you! You're going to do well in music for the Lord! Woo-Hoo for you!" And that's a real example, by the way, one given to my niece in her Pentecostal church. Funny thing with that 'prophecy': she was already an excellent musician, serving God with that music. That's like a prophet coming to me and prophesying that I am going to be fat! (I'm already 340 pounds).

If one is saved, the Lord is able to communicate the truth to them just fine. Now, that's not to say the Lord can't use someone else, or a pastor preaching a sermon that speak to you, but the Spirit will speak to YOU-the biggest problem, of course, is the listening, which we are wont not to do.

So, as said before, place this in God's hands and wait upon the Lord-stay faithful and active in your church.

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Pray, and keep open to renewed friendship. If you are both true believers, and wary of such prophetic messages, then yuo will be drawn together. If she does not share that Pentecostal faith, where does she worship? And where do you worship, and how did you meet? Are there trusted mutual friends who could arrange for a meeting? Keep it low key, and you will either grow together or apart as the Lord leads.

Such a prophecy is self-fulfilling - prophesy "break up" and it happens.

I suggest this Scripture:

Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

Two personal notes:

1) My then girlfriend's father (not a Christian) took an instant dislike to me. Our wedding (over 50 years ago) was organised by my parents. The estrangement lasted until after our first baby was born.

2) My son was the victim of such a prophecy - he met a girl from a "Toronto blessing" church - she had been told in prophecy that she would 1) marry her next boyfriend, and 2) marry before she was 20.

With such a prophetic "blessing" they went ahead, with her parents' approval, & her pastor's though NOT our approval, nor our pastor's. They'd only met a few weeks before, but everything was SO "right."

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You should never say God told me that you should not do that, what should be done if you see someone doing something wrong is to out point to them within the Holy Scriptures that its the wrong thing to do.

God never speaks directly to us, however He does speak to us though His Word, which has been true ever since the Bible was completed.

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My fellow Brothers and Sisters in Christ, I am seeking scripture that speaks out against my topic. I do not believe that God would come to another induvidual and tell them something that he had intended for the person being told to find out. Here is what I am facing; my relationship of a month shy of two years was ruined by a woman who told my significant other that "God told her that she needed to end our relationship." I cannot blame my Girlfriend for listening to her do to the fact that I am out numbered in this fight. Her Mom, Sister, and Grandparents share the same penocostal holiness faith. She is not that way herself, however her mind could be swayed when the core of her family is in support of this. The woman who told her to do this is a Second cousin whom is more like an Aunt to her and they have always been close. She is the second wife to a man (her third marrige herself) who pastors a church in our area. His congregation is being led by him unknowing of his past life...I guess he doesn't read the book of Timothy...however thats a different discussion. I need verses and most of all prayers because the only way that her and I can make it back together is by God's touch. Thank you friends!

God speaks to us in different ways. Just to name a few...

Generally through the Word.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

Through our conscience.

1 Timothy 1:5Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned.

Through the Holy Spirit.

John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Through counsel and advice of other Godly people.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

Ephesians 2:18 tells us that we have access to God. "For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father."

From what you wrote, your girlfriend is close with this person. That person probably loves and wants to protect her. But....ask your girlfriend to consider going to God directly, on her own, with much prayer and direction from scripture.

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You should never say God told me that you should not do that, what should be done if you see someone doing something wrong is to out point to them within the Holy Scriptures that its the wrong thing to do.

God never speaks directly to us, however He does speak to us though His Word, which has been true ever since the Bible was completed.

Not to change the subject but The Spirit of God is God and does and must speak directly to our spirit (which is us) in order for us to be saved and to be taught by God the Spirit. But I do agree concerning the typical pentecostal blasphemous hokum.

1 Corinthians 2:10-12 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

John 17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;

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First of all, before I say something about this, I want to ask if God has picked a spouse for everyone. The idea for me is that there is no specific Bible verse or passage that speaks of God picking specific persons for us to marry. There are four examples, Adam, Isaac, Hosea and Joseph, concerning God arranging marriages but all of these were special circumstances and I don't see how can we build a doctrine on special interventios of God to stipulate that He arranges marriages. The Bible speaks of finding wife but it also says that a good spouse is a gift from God. Apostle Paul says if someone decides freely in his heart then to marry his duaghter and in the following verse he also says that if someone single decides the same then he also should get married. Moreover, God through the Holy Spirit advised us to choose not to marry, saying that he who marries does god but he who not does better because he is concerned with God's work and not with pleasing a spouse. He also wants to spare us from the hardship of marriage and life. He recommends us virginity and celibacy and seeking the Kingdom but also encourages us to marry due to immorality. I for one don't have this gift and I know for sure that I can't stand to be single in celibacy so I will get married. Moreover, Bible talks about Abraham taking a wife, Judah taking a wife etc. Proverbs 31 was written for helping young men find a good godly wife. I agree that God guides us through the Holy Spirit and gives us wisdom to seek and find a wife. The Bible says that we should inform God of our plans and intentions and He will bring things to pass. But it is one thing to say that God guides us and something else to say that He is picking spouses for everyone. It is certain for me that the story of soul mates is mythical and originates from movies, romantic novels and from Plato's philosophy. There are some logical problems I find with this issue. If God picks someone for everybody what happens if the person dies? Isn't the story of soul mates wrong? Because Bible encourages remarrying after the spouse's death. But what if one chooses the life of celibacy even if he is not gifted with this? What will happen than? What's the point of love then if God arranges everything? Who is to blame because so many young men and women are not yet married and is not sure that they will ever be? And moreover the Bible says that love is a choice and not a sentiment based on feelings. It involves feelings but basicaly is not this. It is strange because if we carefully put into action the biblical pattern for love and marriage roles described by Paul then we could get married with anyone and have the most happiest marriage from all times. And if we're honest, I think that in the end everybody chooses freely to marry with someone not because God said them to do so. There are examples of people that are saying that their marriaged was arranged by God and I don't know what to say than just affirm that there is no biblical support that God promised or sweared to us that He will arrange our marriages. Better is to say that God is guiding them through the Holy Spirit and helping in the process of finding someone to marry. In the end, if God arranges marriages shouldn't be them perfect? Why is that that these are not?
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Thank you for your attention and I hope that we will be in touch very soon. I am looking forward for your answer.
Yours sincerely,
Stephen

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"... I bring the four winds from the four quarters of heaven,
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whither the outcasts of Elam shall not come."
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Whatever happens (nuclear or not) will cause these things to happen (which have not YET happened to a total fulfillment in history):
1. The Lord "will bring the four winds from the four quarters of heaven,"
2. "and will scatter them toward all those winds;"
3. "and there shall be no nation whither the outcasts of Elam shall not come."
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I also would further conclude that verses 38-39 will be fulfilled at an even later time (the millennial reign) because there certainly is NOT a throne of the Lord in Elam, nor has there ever been in past history.
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Every past prophecy which was fulfilled was fulfilled exactly as prophecied, to the letter,
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37 "For I will cause Elam to be dismayed before their enemies, and before them that seek their life: and I will bring evil upon them, even my fierce anger, saith the Lord; and I will send the sword after them, till I have consumed them:
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39 "But it shall come to pass in the latter days, that I will bring again the captivity of Elam, saith the Lord.
map image (taken from wikipedia) for the location of where Elam was:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elam#/media/File:Elam_Map.jpg

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