Suspect In Attack On British Soldier Namedhttp://www.businessinsider.com/michael-adebolajo-suspect-in-woolwich-attack-2013-5/comments
en-usWed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500Sun, 02 Aug 2015 16:47:51 -0400Adam Taylorhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/519ff82669bedd677900001bFartful CodgerFri, 24 May 2013 19:30:46 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519ff82669bedd677900001b
Pat Condell a former standup comedian who speaks about the threat of Islam to the rest of the planet.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=377kKBi6anQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=377kKBi6anQ</a>
He has a video where he talks about Anjem Choudary.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519ec53aeab8eadc09000018tuck1sThu, 23 May 2013 21:41:14 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519ec53aeab8eadc09000018
The killers have been brought to justice.
The women in the street demonstrated calm courage in the way they handled the situation.
The police took time to arrive, that is true.
Despite this horrific incident, the murder rate in the US is 4x higher than the UK, according to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate</a>.
There was initially confusion as to the killers' intentions - as the incident began with them running him over in a car, then going over to the injured man. Given the complex nature of the scene, I doubt things would have been any better if passers-by were carrying guns.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e7e14eab8ea606e000004mrtown33Thu, 23 May 2013 16:37:40 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e7e14eab8ea606e000004
I think I'll dress up like this guy for halloween...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e6c8f69bedd3425000003Alpha DirectedThu, 23 May 2013 15:22:55 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e6c8f69bedd3425000003
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I'm adding historical truth and perspective. The notion that "the US started it" is complete and utter bullshit. Their has been conflict regarding the Muslims for over 1,000 years and that is a fact. To suggest that the US is responsible for this because of oil and this is some new paradigm, is simply incorrect. The conflict has always been waged because of some economic controversy whether it be land or trade or drugs...
Here' is the larger problem I don't think you (or many others) get when talking about the Muslim religion. And this religion is no different than most organized religion. At the end of the day, it's about controlling people, making money and building a constituency of power. The Muslim faith is never really regarded as such -- yet it is no different the Catholic religion which has done exactly the same.
When we accept that the Muslim faith is about control and making money. Because it is. Then we can start to understand the distortion of the Quran to brain was the disenfranchised to become zealots. It is of great value to the top people in the Muslim faith to have these "holy warriors" at their fingertips -- so they can be used to protect their power base, ando fo course their money making opportunity. In this case, it's opium and the global heroin trade, which brings in billions to the top rungs of the Muslim religious faith every year.
Don't believe me? Let's remember that Osama Bin Ladens driver mentioned that OBL had a pentient for Johnny Walker whiskey. How could the most holy of "holy warriors" be so brazen against the word of the Quran which expressly forbids alcohol? BINGO. We all know why. Because its all about power and money at the end of the day.
Commentary from a US ARMY vet. Take notice and read carefully.
"Our enemies, for the most part, had been confused teenage boys planting I.E.D.’s and wildly shooting rifles as big as they were, trying to earn a quick dinar. More often than not, they weren’t philosophically engaged in what was going on around them: they were more interested in putting some food on the table for their families or drinking whiskey with their friends. We rarely had mug shots of these characters, and even when we did, they looked more like angry, pubescent mall rats than legitimate insurgents"http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e61e369beddf507000003mrtown33Thu, 23 May 2013 14:37:23 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e61e369beddf507000003
lol...don't get your panties in a bunchhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e5fcd69bedda07d00000aJohn Galt in TOThu, 23 May 2013 14:28:29 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e5fcd69bedda07d00000a
Once again, your ability to debate in a dignified manner is simply overwhelming.
So we're attacking them because they are terrorizing us? That's it? It's that simple?
Don't you find it the least bit interesting that the majority of these countries that we attack happen to be sitting on a lot of highly coveted natural resources and/or are strategically incredibly important, or is that just a coincidence?
I'm clearly not as enlightened and intelligent as you Pete, so could you please educate me, or would you rather "I just continue to be a pussie (spelled "pussy" btw) and shut the fuck up?"http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e5ecceab8ea402100001eAurelio MartyThu, 23 May 2013 14:24:12 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e5ecceab8ea402100001e
@ferret.your logic is kind of screwed.Maybe because Britain have gun control,this nut coudn't put his hand on an automatic weapon so he resorts to a butcher knife act of terrorism. Guess what would happened if he could have easily got a cheap AK-47 from some black market?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e5e4b69beddbc7d000003John Galt in TOThu, 23 May 2013 14:22:03 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e5e4b69beddbc7d000003
Are you referencing events from the 700s as your primary talking points in reference to what is happening now???
How about everything that has happened since oil was discovered???http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e5c4d6bb3f7fe3000000dJohn Galt in TOThu, 23 May 2013 14:13:33 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e5c4d6bb3f7fe3000000d
Fine - then don't cry when there are more attacks on your homeland.
Death to jihadists, or all muslims? Do you believe they are all one and the same? In that case, are you okay with exterminating over a billion people?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e5b0e69beddbd74000001Alpha DirectedThu, 23 May 2013 14:08:14 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e5b0e69beddbd74000001
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Bottom line.
1) The Muslims are and do control the worlds criminal enterprise AKA the heroin trade. Heroin addiction is one of this worlds greatest evils and tragedies. One of the worlds greatest evils is directly at the hands of the Muslims. That is a fact.
2) Histories winners have always written the text. That doesn't make the actual history wrong. For example. Let's not forget the barbaric behavior regarding everyone involved (including the Muslims) re the Moors and Spain.
Let us revisit -- and let us take note of the "America started this" nonsense.
Note these years.
711: The Muslim troops cross the Strait of Gibraltar and defeat the Visigoths at the battle of Guadalete.
732: Muslim conquest halted by Charles Martel.
718: Pelayo, a noble Visigoth who had been made king, defeats the Muslim Army in Alcama, beginning of the Christian Reconquest of Spain.
750: The Christians recapture Galicia, which had been abandoned by revolting Berber troops.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e58d1eab8eaa91300000cJohn Galt in TOThu, 23 May 2013 13:58:41 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e58d1eab8eaa91300000c
Dude - calm down!
Assuming it's just 2.7%, considering the size of the oil industry, do the math and equate it to dollars and cents. For a country the size of Nigeria, it's MASSIVELY material!
As to the horrible things they do, I will not defend them, however, please take a look at the pictures from the following link:
<a href="http://www.asiantribune.com/node/62242" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >http://www.asiantribune.com/node/62242</a>
If these were your children and loved ones, and this happened repeatedly for decades, and your country had no way to fight back, what would you do?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e57466bb3f71628000013John Galt in TOThu, 23 May 2013 13:52:06 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e57466bb3f71628000013
Correction - I don't like nor do I support the Taliban, but under their rule, opium production in Afghanistan was decreasing! It was only under the control of the Americans than it began increasing again.
As for history, I devote significant amounts of time to learning and understanding history. I would caution you as to what history books you read, as said books are written by history's winners. In other words, consider the perspectives.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e5627eab8eaee0d000014John Galt in TOThu, 23 May 2013 13:47:19 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e5627eab8eaee0d000014
Dignified comment. Well done.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e55e0eab8eac810000004John Galt in TOThu, 23 May 2013 13:46:08 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e55e0eab8eac810000004
No problem Pete - let's have more drones, and let's kill more people. Just know that you're inviting and will be victimized by more terrorism. If you're okay with that, then bombs away!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e52c3eab8ea8409000003edmonddantesThu, 23 May 2013 13:32:51 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e52c3eab8ea8409000003
...Marcossa:" Let me remind you that 911 happened because we messed with them first."
REPLY: Let me remind you, 9/11 happened just a couple of years of the USA aided the "Muslim brothers" over in Bosnia. The "Thank you!" card we received for that was 3,000 dead Americans and a giant hole in Manhattan.
Moreover, Muslim society does not JUST have a problem with Americans. They murder Russians, black Africans (Darfur, anyone!) and Hindus.
Stop blaming the targeted societies, and place blame where it belongs - with a civilization that worships a cult of death.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e4c7069beddd050000001Alpha DirectedThu, 23 May 2013 13:05:52 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e4c7069beddd050000001
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Have you ever read a history book? Your "vision" on how all this works would indicate no.
Furthermore, you have no clue on the real objective of the top tier of the Muslim religion -- that is drugs. Drugs and money. The Muslim religion is now the largest provider of opiates / heroin around the world. If you are in the crime and drug business, and you want to traffic in heroin then you must deal with the Muslims. They control the entire global trade.
What is one of the most evil things on this planet? HEROIN ADDICTION. And who is controlling the global heroin trade? That would be the Muslims ...
You need some work on your history -- and you need a real world refresher on how and what the fuck is really happening.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e45736bb3f73409000005Hey Pete! You win the retard award! CONGRATS!Thu, 23 May 2013 12:36:03 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e45736bb3f73409000005
If you had a brain, you would know that the West messed with them first. Maybe after a drone shoots a rocket up your ass, and blows up your family, you would understand how they feel about the west.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e44ef69bedd2c39000011Conservative hate spasmThu, 23 May 2013 12:33:51 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e44ef69bedd2c39000011
Well the phony Obama scandal porn has been light today.
Time to chum the right wing waters by throwing them some Muslim hate porn.
Go get em you repub internet tough guys.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e44dd69bedd073c000003Rich AliThu, 23 May 2013 12:33:33 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e44dd69bedd073c000003
Allah Akbar .. take a low IQ monkey and teach him Islam, this is what you get.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e4466eab8ead463000007Amit DasThu, 23 May 2013 12:31:34 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e4466eab8ead463000007
The reason there have not been petty Pan-European wars in the last 65+ years is precisely because of American influence.
If anything, you should beg America to always be in your backyard, to save you from yourselves.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e44536bb3f78d0600000cAlpha DirectedThu, 23 May 2013 12:31:15 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e44536bb3f78d0600000c
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Hey Einstein, let's try some key word association ok.
1) Nigeria
2) London
3) Muslim
So where in any of that is the word AMERICA?
Why don't you just fucking man up and take some responsibility for yourself. It's a start. And BTW, why don't you take a look at the awesome action Hungary just took against American giant Monsanto. sorry to add some fact to your diatribe, but somebody has to do it.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e416669bedddc3200000cjoanieandchachiThu, 23 May 2013 12:18:46 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e416669bedddc3200000c
These barbarians just committed a heinous act which is the reason western soldiers are fighting them. Are they so stupid and ignorant that they believe nations are fighting radical islam for their health? I don't know any other religion that causes followers to behead and murder while screaming God is Great. What a horrific god they serve. It's like they are possessed. A reason everyone needs a gun.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e3e4b6bb3f73876000008Marcossa please read up on historyThu, 23 May 2013 12:05:31 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e3e4b6bb3f73876000008
Let me remind you that 911 happened because we messed with them first. As John Galt said, this is the chickens coming home to roost. After we helped Osama Bin Laden kick the Russians out of Afgan, we should have left it alone, but instead we turned around, gave a middle finger to the same people we supplied weapons and training to, then attempted to control them like the Russians. Our great Bush continued his fathers war in iraw, and the Mid East by claiming "WMD's", this great "Hero" Obama is still invading other countries in the Mid-East discreetly by helping them "rebuild". We could have stayed out of Libya, and now we're sticking our noses into Syria. Don't forget, or even get me started on our meddling in Asia. This war for many Islamic militants isn't just a war, it is personal. We have bombed their families, stabbed them in the back with false promises, and lied and plundered their resources. What would you do in their situation? Bend over and let the West give it to you from behind, or go down fighting? Not everyone wants our soldiers to bring them "Democracy and freedom" as our corrupt politicians would have you believe. Wake up.... it's time to face reality.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e3dfe69bedde426000024JonThu, 23 May 2013 12:04:14 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e3dfe69bedde426000024
This extremism is born out of the Koran and to convert all unbelievers. Western policy contributes but they will not stop attacking unbelievers even if the West were to roll over to their every demand. It is not solely or even mainly in response to western policy. It is born from their view on their Holy Book. Don't kid yourself and think this would ever stop.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e3cdaecad04c277000010JonThu, 23 May 2013 11:59:22 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e3cdaecad04c277000010
Waaaa, it's not our fault, it's the Americans fault...
grow up and take some responsibility.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e3c72ecad04ae77000008Aurelio MartyThu, 23 May 2013 11:57:38 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e3c72ecad04ae77000008
@Maxhno. The problem with some africans is they still stuck in colonisation mind.The problem with Nigeria isn't occupation of his land by a foreign country it is the greed of theirs local leaders and the lack of respect for their fellows citizens.Do you seriously think the act of this loony is advancing the cause of his fellows nigerians people?And as i said i am almost sure he knows nothing of nigerian reality.He's embracing the wrong cause with the wrong means.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e3c6b6bb3f72b78000001ChocolatamanThu, 23 May 2013 11:57:31 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e3c6b6bb3f72b78000001
Do people try and put themselves in the shoes of their fellow man anymore? Are Americans and Europeans anywhere close to knowing what their military's do in their name? Just asking questions...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e35aeecad047d6c000003krivitswThu, 23 May 2013 11:28:46 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e35aeecad047d6c000003
"suspected" attacker?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e34d56bb3f7926600000adigitalrobThu, 23 May 2013 11:25:09 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e34d56bb3f7926600000a
EVERYONE needs to send Islam home - including America. Let them bomb and kill themselves.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e341269bedde114000004mrtown33Thu, 23 May 2013 11:21:54 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e341269bedde114000004
Truth hurts I know.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e32f6ecad04306600000bJohn Galt in TOThu, 23 May 2013 11:17:10 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e32f6ecad04306600000b
Where did I say that?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e322169bedde50b00000eferretThu, 23 May 2013 11:13:37 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e322169bedde50b00000e
Reports are the soldier was ran over by a car and then the killers did their work, and reports are it took 20 MINUTES for the police to arrive, now if the brits had guns and concealed carry, these bastards could have been taken out the minute they got out of the car and attacked the soldier on the ground, but of course BRITAIN HAS GUN CONTROL , so the sheeple had to wait 20 minutes for the police while this savage performed for the cameras, and this is gun control in real time.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e31a769bedd330c000005ezequesThu, 23 May 2013 11:11:35 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e31a769bedd330c000005
Someone’s darling little son.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e31386bb3f73062000002MaxhnoThu, 23 May 2013 11:09:44 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e31386bb3f73062000002
"Nigeria is not occupied by any western countries" Seriously ?
It actually is worse. When a country cannot be controlled through colonisation, it is simply turned into chaos, for western companies to be able to control the resource. Which is the case in Nigeria, mainly about Oil.
On his point of view, he is a nigerian warrior fighting a british soldier.
The question is : why western countries let these people migrate ? We wage war against them & let them freely enter our countries.
The real criminals are the wicked politicians who act like this.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e30a6eab8ea1a3b000001MarcossaThu, 23 May 2013 11:07:18 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e30a6eab8ea1a3b000001
When a Muslim says, "Islam is Peace", they are saying the imposition of Islamic law (Sharia) results in peace. They are defining Peace, not Islam.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e3001ecad04515f00000dMarcossaThu, 23 May 2013 11:04:33 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e3001ecad04515f00000d
So 9-11 never happened in your imaginary world?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e2ee2ecad04565f000008mrtown33Thu, 23 May 2013 10:59:46 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e2ee2ecad04565f000008
Somebody gets it. Kudos.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e2e72ecad04535f000006Fartful CodgerThu, 23 May 2013 10:57:54 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e2e72ecad04535f000006
Islam the religion of peace ... oh nevermind, no one buys that lie anymore.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e2de4eab8ea7335000001John Galt in TOThu, 23 May 2013 10:55:32 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e2de4eab8ea7335000001
PS - Nigeria is heavily endowed with crude oil and is a major exporter around the world. The majority of the financial benefit goes to foreign oil companies, of which BP is a major player. The locals live shit lives, and have been raped by Western powers, of which Britain was a key culprit, for decades. That may have had something to do with it too.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e2c83eab8ea742b000009John Galt in TOThu, 23 May 2013 10:49:39 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e2c83eab8ea742b000009
You don't get it. Muslims are extremely united - you attack one you attack them all. If you think they are embracing such heinous acts because of their extreme ideology, then you're being played as the same fool who was terrified of the Soviets during the Cold War, and the Japanese during WWII.
If you think any of these terrorist attacks are solely the cause of an extremist religion and driven by their hatred of Western culture, and have nothing to do with Western foreign policy, then you're sadly mistaken. You don't have to be born in a certain country to identify with an atrocity. Remember when Tony Blair proudly proclaimed "we are all a little bit American" on 9/11?
PS - no need for offensive language - this is simply a discussion.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e2a75ecad048454000009Aurelio MartyThu, 23 May 2013 10:40:53 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e2a75ecad048454000009
Totally agree about that .His rant is totally incoherent especially coming from a British from Nigerian background.He uses alibis to commit his crime.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e2937ecad04435200000cMaxhnoThu, 23 May 2013 10:35:35 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e2937ecad04435200000c
First we need to get rid of american influence on our political scene.
Yet if we do so, we will be labelled fascist states and be economically destroyed.
Just look wha happens in Hungary for example.
We have to fight International Finance, American foreign policy, corrupt politicians formed and appointed by America and that with a huge proportion of immigrants on our soil.
As long as we are under US influence, we can't act effectively.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e283169bedd3170000010Aurelio MartyThu, 23 May 2013 10:31:13 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e283169bedd3170000010
The guy is from Nigerian roots so not from middle eastern countries.I am not even sure he ever went to Nigeria. Nigeria is not occupied by any western countries so his point about women seeing these atrocities every day is just pointless.He just looked indoctrinated by some extremist ideologies.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e26feecad04c64b00001bTwo Decades of ServiceThu, 23 May 2013 10:26:06 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e26feecad04c64b00001b
You fucking moron! The murderer is born in Britain and does not even know what Nigeria looks like. He has benefited from the dole and ran down a person and murdered him in the name of religion he took up in 2003. Nigeria has more professing Christians than are in the UK.
This has nothing to do with the government! Murderers and criminals gravitate to Islam because it gives them the religious right to be criminals.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e23bfeab8ea0a1b000007John Galt in TOThu, 23 May 2013 10:12:15 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e23bfeab8ea0a1b000007
Yesterday's attack was simply barbaric, gruesome, disgusting and inhumane.
That said...
People and governments need to realize that the chicken is coming home to roost. As long as big western countries bomb, invade and plunder middle eastern countries, while murdering civilians and displacing millions, there will be acts of terrorism in response. This is war. If they had an army that could actually attack the countries that are attacking them, they would bomb you back. They don't, and this is the only way to retaliate and enact revenge.
It both saddens and disgusts me to see things like this in the news. As a human race, we should be better than this; however, when I find very gruesome pictures of children blown up from drone strikes, it's quite obvious where the hatred comes from, and why these attacks are happening in the first place.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e2168ecad04fb4200000emrtown33Thu, 23 May 2013 10:02:16 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e2168ecad04fb4200000e
Karma carries a butcher knife. Surprised this hasn't happened before now.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e1d5becad04c43e000005disgustingThu, 23 May 2013 09:44:59 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e1d5becad04c43e000005
it's even more disgusting if this holds up to be true
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOBulprMa2A" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOBulprMa2A</a>http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e1b696bb3f7b538000001Jeff BridgesThu, 23 May 2013 09:36:41 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/519e1b696bb3f7b538000001
Absolutely disgusting.
I wonder how much in benefits the guy was receiving.
Europe needs to get it's act together and send these scumbags back to their home countries.