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Amateur Astrology, what's ahead for the USA

I am starting this thread because we are in for a very difficult (or interesting) period in the years ahead.

Immediately, we are facing an opposition between Saturn and Uranus. These two planets have very little in common. The aspect is 4 degrees away exact today, but Saturn will be moving closer and closer, until Election Day, when it will finally confront Uranus.

So, what does this mean?

The forces of order tradition,and control are confronting the forces of disruption, revolution, and disorder.

The "bail-out" votes in Congress are tied in with this forming aspect. If you think about it, you can probably "see" how it works, but please understand that nothing has been resolved, and the passage of the Bill has not really fixed the problem.

If anything, the general public is just now becoming aware of the conflict between traditional responsible money management, and all the unusual shenanigans that have challenged stability.

Enough for now. More later, and I hope the other excellent astrologers will join me here, so we can be prepared for the challenging times to come.

Saturn and Uranus are clashing this month. See them as two knights heading into one of those duels on horseback, with helmets down and poles directed.

I see it mostly as related to the voting on Nov 4th, and can only see the potential for financial and social upheaval. The financial upheaval is now obvious.

Is the social yet to come? I must be honest here, I distrust Obama, mostly because of his past associations. As an independent voter, I have no allegiance with either party, and am not very happy with any of the candidates, except Sarah Palin.

And, lest we forget... our enemies are always ready to take advantage of any perceived weakness. President Bush has only a few months left. What better time for enemies to try to pull something off?

My main worry is about the consequences of the election. I am worried about civil disorder in our cities. There are too many opposing groups in the U.S. at the present time. It wouldn't take much to start riots.

Those of you in areas that might be vulnerable, be prepared, and hope that the preparations are not needed.

Not only have we dealt with financial turmoil this week, losing thousands in our 401k, but my sister had to take her two kids, teenagers screaming from their father's home tonight. Mercury is definitely in retrograde, always scares me. I don't know much about astrology, but Mercury in retrograde is always a very scary time. Thank God they are all okay. I hate my x brother in law the narcissist.

Housemouse I love your posts and so believe in Astrology. It appears there are several rough years ahead for all of us no matter who is elected.... funny thing I like all three candidates except Sarah Palin... she has just totally turned me off. I cannot stand to hear her voice, if they win I may have to turn the volume down a lot in the next four years. Funny thing my aunt wrote me the same thing, she cannot stand her nasaly voice.

Housemouse I love your posts and so believe in Astrology. It appears there are several rough years ahead for all of us no matter who is elected.... funny thing I like all three candidates except Sarah Palin... she has just totally turned me off. I cannot stand to hear her voice, if they win I may have to turn the volume down a lot in the next four years. Funny thing my aunt wrote me the same thing, she cannot stand her nasaly voice.

I have nothing against McCain, except that he's too old and I'm afraid he's too much like Bush.

Not sure about Obama. I wanted Hilary. I've always felt that if Obama or Hilary made it into office, someone would try to assassinate them, and succeed. If McCain makes it, he's gonna drop dead in office. I can feel it. And, not only can I not handle Palin's voice, she downright gives me the creeps.

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More at link.

I received that story linked in an email on Sept 25th and your post sure made me wonder if the government isn't expecting some type of citizen upheaval in our country.

(Not that it matters to me but it might to Housemouse. If you guys continue the political discussion, me thinks the thread will be moved.)

I agree with you Liz. I am really glad to have this thread, as I believe that times have become such that we need all the help that we can get. Maybe we can all chime in and make some suggestions on how to be able to keep the thread, while keeping the mods and Tricia happy all at the same time. I really think that would be possible, as we are all adults here.

It is really going to be hard to separate, as politics have much ado with the situation. Maybe we could refrain from posting our personal picks and when someone posts an opinion, take it as just that. Don't respond in a negative or positive way, just appreciate that we are priviledged enough to be able to have an opinion.

These are all just suggestions here, but the ultimate say so will come from Tricia, just thought I would state how I feel because I'm sure this is a discussion that is coming.

HM...I look every day for your latest posts. I appreciate your readings and respect your thoughts. Thanks for all you do for us here. I hope you feel better soon. Thank you for the heads up on the situation at hand.

I'd be shocked if he dropped out; he's been wanting to go to the "Show" for years!

ON thread, I'm sorry I can't contribute. I know virtually nothing yet about astrology and I don't understand any of it. But if you say Mercury in retrograde is _________________, I believe it. Just patiently waiting for the analysis/interpretation--as your time/Arthur permits. Also, fascinated by astrological interpretation as it relates to historical points of interest so that we may learn and grow.