If you're a linebacker that can't play three downs, we don't need you regardless of what round. Said the same thing about Greg Jones even though he was a 6th rder.

01-23-2013, 11:28 AM

BlueSabbath

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Originally Posted by slipknottin

I still wonder what exactly the point of adding a two down linebacker who offers nothing as a pass rusher is.

Do they need a new SAM that can't cover and has to come of the field that badly?

I still wonder why our linebackers suck and have sucked for years yet we fail to address the situation with an early pick.

01-23-2013, 11:34 AM

BlueSabbath

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Originally Posted by Imgrate

If you're a linebacker that can't play three downs, we don't need you regardless of what round. Said the same thing about Greg Jones even though he was a 6th rder.

I don't think he'd just be a two down guy if we drafted him. While he's not the best linebacker against the pass and does have some weaknesses, my point is that I think he'd be serviceable in pass defense and upgrade our rush defense. If he sucked, well, par for the course with the way we've been drafting LBs. I thought Dillard and Jones would suck... I don't think NJ would. Not really much more we can say on the guy... if you guys have some other targets for 4th or later, let's talk about them.

01-23-2013, 11:44 AM

slipknottin

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Originally Posted by BlueSabbath

I still wonder why our linebackers suck and have sucked for years yet we fail to address the situation with an early pick.

You mean like an early 2nd rounder? Oh wait...

What position on this team have they drafted early that they haven't needed?

01-23-2013, 11:45 AM

slipknottin

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Originally Posted by BlueSabbath

I don't think he'd just be a two down guy if we drafted him. While he's not the best linebacker against the pass and does have some weaknesses, my point is that I think he'd be serviceable in pass defense and upgrade our rush defense. If he sucked, well, par for the course with the way we've been drafting LBs. I thought Dillard and Jones would suck... I don't think NJ would. Not really much more we can say on the guy... if you guys have some other targets for 4th or later, let's talk about them.

He's a two down linebacker in college. Why would he all of a sudden be a three down player in the nfl?

01-23-2013, 12:46 PM

BlueSabbath

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Originally Posted by slipknottin

He's a two down linebacker in college. Why would he all of a sudden be a three down player in the nfl?

Because of the talent around him. I'm not guaranteeing he will. Just that in this draft, if we pick late, I'd gamble on him. Yall are making good points, just call it a gut feeling.

The only DE you have on your mock is in the third round and you seem to admit he'd only play on passing downs.

01-23-2013, 12:46 PM

TheEnigma

Would rather have a SAM LB who can offer pass rushing abilities on 3rd down and can also offer sound coverage skills with natural hips. Johnson is a good teammate but I think he's a ST player in the NFL.

01-23-2013, 03:45 PM

Redeyejedi

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Originally Posted by BlueSabbath

Because of the talent around him. I'm not guaranteeing he will. Just that in this draft, if we pick late, I'd gamble on him. Yall are making good points, just call it a gut feeling.

The only DE you have on your mock is in the third round and you seem to admit he'd only play on passing downs.

A Situational Pass Rusher is a hell of a lot more valuable than a 2 Down LB

01-23-2013, 03:49 PM

Redeyejedi

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Originally Posted by TheEnigma

Would rather have a SAM LB who can offer pass rushing abilities on 3rd down and can also offer sound coverage skills with natural hips. Johnson is a good teammate but I think he's a ST player in the NFL.

I wouldnt pigeon hole him that much he could play on early downs possibly I just dont think he would be a Nickel player. I

01-23-2013, 04:35 PM

BlueSabbath

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Originally Posted by Redeyejedi

A Situational Pass Rusher is a hell of a lot more valuable than a 2 Down LB

I agree (sure as hell wouldn't want our only DE taken that early to be someone I think is only a situational pass rusher though) but again, I don't necessarily think Nico would only be a 2 down LB on our roster. Like I said, more of a gut feeling and thinking if we address LB late, I want someone with championship and SEC experience... and again, this has a lot to do with what I think of this class of LBs. I don't like that many outside of some early guys. A different year, I probably wouldn't be arguing much for a LB of his caliber. Still looking at some other guys that will be around late but for now, I'm all for Nico if we wait (which just to be clear, I don't want us to do).