HI all... light hearted topic here, so dont take it too seriously!I have been a regular frequenter of Europa for a couple of years for breakky and post rides etc. Since th echange of ownership most of the staff have left, and the coffee is now terrible. Some of the food is also terrible. Just wondering if there are any Cyclist friendly Cafes down the bay with good coffee?

Heres my thoughts... please add to them if u have an opinion/suggestion to add...Diclaimer - This is my personal opinion only - i wont be offended if u disagree

Europa:Pros:good bike parking, large outside area, lots of cyclists (solidarity in numbers - lol) Table ServiceNegatives:Coffee greatly variable - mostly bad, only good from one barista in the eveningsfood largely bad and about to get worse

Mamma Cammelas:Pros:?Cons: Coffee bad, have just erected a cyclists dismount sign to make cyclists get off their bikes (probably called for sometimes, but wreaks of anticyclist sentiment)

Grind It:Pros:Great Food, All day breakky, Good CoffeeCons: No bike parking, no outdoor area, hard to get to toilets (especially in cleats)

Pure Boutique Coffee:Pros: Ok coffeeCons: only one table outside

Cibo (GLENELG):Unless its changed recently - i blacklisted the place a year ago)Pros:Large outside area, ample bike parkingCons: Weak coffee, borders on bad coffee most of the time (as opposed to other Cibos where its quite good), Rude Staff, Expensive

+1 to zootz... w@nkersi wandered into zootz to use the toilets in my rubber heeled sidis, with my cafe covered speedplays, and still got the "chat". Lifted my shoe to show nothing bu rubber coated contacted services, and still got treated like a w@nker... so will never go back... shame as their breakkys arent bad....

I avoid the beach like the plague, too many bogans, glass etc so I'm just going to post my favorites elsewhere.Nano's just off Rundle St, lots of parking, bike friendly and the Doorstops are addictiveTaylors Blend, Hallett Rd, Stonyfell, best coffee in Adelaide at the bottom of the best desent.

The Glenelg Precinct is a popular destination for cyclists and pedestrians and as the weather improves, the volume of cyclists visiting Glenelg increases throughout the day. In particular, we have groups of cyclists who visit cafes at Moseley Square and the surrounding precinct from 7am – 9am each morning and on weekends.

Several cyclists ride from the south along the Esplanade and the Jimmy Melrose shared path to Moseley Square. Other groups of cyclists come to Moseley Square via Anzac Hwy, Colley Tce and Jetty Rd.

In the last month we have received several safety concerns from pedestrians regarding cyclist behaviour within the Glenelg Precinct and especially Jimmy Melrose shared path, Moseley Square and the southern side, western end of Jetty Rd (near Mamma Carmela’s restaurant).

• Cyclists riding on the southern footpath on Jetty Rd, forcing pedestrians to move out of the way.

• Cyclists riding on footpaths around corners and almost crashing with pedestrians.

The City of Holdfast Bay has a high ageing and very active population and for some older members of our community, their fear of cyclist behaviour is affecting their health and well being.

I appreciate that this is not an easy matter to enforce but it would be greatly appreciated if your organisation would please disseminate information to your members asking them to respect pedestrians in the same manner that cyclists seek to be respected on the road.

Your assistance in this matter is appreciated.

the council have been getting a lot of complaints

dont ride your bike down the front of europa/etcdont be a loud, sweaty, foul mouthed mamildont yell at people dont act like you own the place

i have seen all of the above mentioned behaviour many many times. i dont have coffee at glenelg any more because it is embarrassing.

the council do not want you therethe non cycling public do not want you thereeven the cafes do not want you there (they shut up about it though because they like your money)

this was all caused by the poor behaviour of many cyclists so dont go whinging that it is some anti-lycra conspiracy.

if i get killed while out on my bike i dont want a 'memorial ride' by random punters i have never met.

All of that is true Alex and a good reason to avoid the place, bogans, on and off bikes, reign supreme at The Bay.

Is it just me or is the behaviour of our fellow cyclists pretty ordinary at the moment? I know it always degenerates at TDU time as the "we own the roads this week " attitude takes off. But there is a lot of arrogant riding going on, no hand signals, riding abreast in unwarranted areas, the mob mentality ruling.

Hi guys, I am one of the owners of Pure Boutique Coffee Bar at Glenelg. I also have been a Barista at Europa during the previous ownership. As when I was at Europa, we at Pure are very happy to have cyclists visit our cafe! I have a rare collection of Dragsters and lowriders which I rotate display within the cafe. Apon request we are also in the process of arranging jerseys for the cycling public. We have a large window and huge open floor plan so your bikes are always in view, not to mention our world leading espresso machine the "Synesso Hydra" and the best Baristas and coffee at the bay!Hope to see you soon!Waz.

Normally my spam radar would start tweeting like Shame Whine going home from training at a first post like yours, but seeing as it's 100% on topic AND the topic is good coffee, I'm happy to let it go for the benefit of the SA crew.

Shaun

...whatever the road rules, self-preservation is the absolute priority for a cyclist when mixing it with motorised traffic.London Boy 29/12/2011

Normally my spam radar would start tweeting like Shame Whine going home from training at a first post like yours, but seeing as it's 100% on topic AND the topic is good coffee, I'm happy to let it go for the benefit of the SA crew.

Shaun

Cheers Shaun

Pure wrote:Hi guys, I am one of the owners of Pure Boutique Coffee Bar at Glenelg. I also have been a Barista at Europa during the previous ownership. As when I was at Europa, we at Pure are very happy to have cyclists visit our cafe! I have a rare collection of Dragsters and lowriders which I rotate display within the cafe. Apon request we are also in the process of arranging jerseys for the cycling public. We have a large window and huge open floor plan so your bikes are always in view, not to mention our world leading espresso machine the "Synesso Hydra" and the best Baristas and coffee at the bay!Hope to see you soon!Waz.

Hi Waz,Thanks for joining and posting.... good luck with the new venture, and if indeed u churn out great cooffee, they will come in droves, as your previous cafe Europa is woeful for coffee at the moment and wont provide much competition besides the pull of its tradition....

Out of interest, how did u find this little thread on the state of coffee at the bay?