It seems that most of the bloating is affecting the eyes of the Fancies.I just wish we had a answer,better yet a cure.I have a beautiful Chocolate Ryukin who was fine for month,then became another victim of bloated eyes.I have done a major water change and treated the tank with epsom salt.I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Do you mean Japan? I don't know,I have noticed this problem way before the crisis in Japan. I remember about 5 years ago when we had the bacteria outbreak,with a lot of the fish coming in with sores and open wounds. I wonder if we are experiencing another situation here.

Hello Gang,long time no chat. I was wondering if anyone has noticed that the goldfish are getting bloated within 2 to 3 weeks after arriving at the lfs? Here in south jersey it is happening everywhere at many (dozens) of stores.The fish seem fine when they arrive but start showing signs of bloating,always beginning with the eyes.The eyes start to swell (not popeye) and its driving me crazy.Has anyone else noticed this.Thanks!

Country:USA
Town & State: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Monster Pets
1946 South Columbus Blvd.
Philadelphia,PA 19148
(215) 336-9000
This place is great for Fancy Goldfish.They have an entire wall of tanks(about 40) just for Fancy Goldfish.Great selection and new fish every 4 to 6 weeks.
If your in Philly you HAVE to check out Monster Pets out!

That was probably one of the most absurd stipulations I've ever heard about goldfish. A fin isn't anything like an impacted tooth or an ingrown toenail. I've kept pretty fine specimens with single anals and some with even contorted or twisted ones, and the cause of their eventual demise wasn't anything that could be traced to their anals being single. It just means that these fish didn't get the exact genetic traits deemed "proper" for their breed.
Also, remember that goldfish originally have single anals AND caudals. The double anal trait was an artifact of the fish being bred to have twin caudals, from fish which have the mutant and naturally abnormal trait of having an extra tail.
Very good point Man Yu!

Hello Gang,I was wondering what fellow Goldfish keepers of this site would think about this.I have for the longest time brought home ONLY fish that had Double Anal Fins.No singles for me!No matter how much of a WOW factor the fish was, a single anal fin was the deal breaker.I think this started when I first started keeping Fancies and read that a true Fancy Goldfish must have 2 anal fins.And that having a single anal fin made it less of a fish.
I, myself have been very anal about this (actually double anal) and turned down many a fish due to this.I feel very sad for the Goldies that I turned away.And so today I brought home 2 beautiful Short Tailed Ryukins with single anals.The one has been sitting in a LFS for about 2 months. I would stop by every now and then and think "man, I wish it had a double"!. I was wondering if anybody else has dealt with this. Does it even come into consideration when looking for a new Fancy?.
Well, there I fell better. My name is Mookie and I'm a recovering Double Anal Fin-aholic.

Well the smallest is about 2 inches and the biggest is 3 1/2 inches.Four of them come from Kowloon, China.The other two are lfs finds.All six are of the short tailed variety.The Kowloon 4 are all Red & Whites,and one is Chocolate and lastly a Black Demekin.I've had the Kowloon 4 for about 3 months now. The other 2 about three weeks or so.I will try to post pics tomorrow,it's getting a little late here in Jersey.

Hello Gang, I was looking at my 180 gallon tank in which I have 8 Med. sized Ryukins.And figurethat they will each have 22.5 gallons per fish.Is that enough gallons per fish or should I ween it down to 6 Ryukins and give them 30 gallons per fish?Tell me what you think.