ooookay and on further inspection that tumblr led to another tumblr that has several different pictures of who I believe to be the same girl -- but I guess it's still possible she wrote something different on the sign, and it was changed because of REASONS.

also figured maybe I won't put the link here because she probably doesn't need a load of referral traffic leading her to a forum full of douchebags debating over whether her sign is real or not.

Is it terrible just thinking about joining these discussions makes me feel tired and down?

I think everybody has that to a certain extent about a lot of topics. It's part fighting against something that has no end in sight, part compassion fatigue, I think. It's mostly on the internet for me, though. I can still get animated about pretty much anything in real life. Online, discussions last for ages and the people with the worst opinions are also the ones that will keep spouting them until they 'win' by outlasting you. Or they use every dirty trick in the book and lie their arses off while you're trying to approach the whole thing in good faith.

It's all a bit depressing, yeah._________________attitude of a street punk, only cutting selected words out of context to get onself excuse to let one's dirty mouth loose

also, darq, /b/ will never be a valid reason to do, think or say anything. in fact, you should be doing the exact opposite of what they're doing. you're deferring your judgement to a bunch of 13-year olds_________________attitude of a street punk, only cutting selected words out of context to get onself excuse to let one's dirty mouth loose

riddle me this, though: what difference does it make what "the original picture" said? especially if you cannot produce said picture? refer back to willem's post

What? This:

Willem wrote:

why does it matter if it's real or not? i mean, it obviously is, but why are you so concerned with the possibility that someone took the time to photoshop something they could have easily faked in easier and more convincing ways? or they could've easily found an actually legit picture and just repost it

and why did you choose to share your concerns with the rest of the world?

You all are missing my point. It's not 'obviously real', maybe 5-6 years ago, but image manipulation has come a looooong way and is ridiculous easy to do anymore. People fake this kind of stuff, with this kind of content ALL THE TIME. For no reason. For lots of reasons. For no good reason.

Also:

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darq, /b/ will never be a valid reason to do, think or say anything. in fact, you should be doing the exact opposite of what they're doing. you're deferring your judgement to a bunch of 13-year olds

You're still trying to answer the 'why'. That's moot. It does happen, regardless of why it happens, what you or I think should happen, it is a commonplace occurance.

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That aside, with Dennis's post OMFG -- we have context delivered. That's what I said at the beginning -- without context it's suspect. A random picture not referenced to anything lacks context. Now knowing the blog exist, I'm no longer suspicious. Prior to that, regardless of what you think, there could have been any number of reasons that picture existed. Hell, for all I knew there was an entire blog made up of just her image with people replacing the message with different messages.

But none of that matters now, context was provided, so I now assume it's legit and that poor girl went through horrible shit and then again went through more horrible shit via people telling her to be 'thankful for being raped'._________________...if a single leaf holds the eye, it will be as if the remaining leaves were not there.http://about.me/omardrake

Nah, overly pessimistic. I went crazy years ago. I couldn't find it, but I know I've read at least one story where someone went on a social media site and spread rumors about a girl being raped in order to humiliate and embarrass her. I've come to terms with the fact that I tend to assume the worse more readily than other people here on this forum._________________...if a single leaf holds the eye, it will be as if the remaining leaves were not there.http://about.me/omardrake

riddle me this, though: what difference does it make what "the original picture" said? especially if you cannot produce said picture? refer back to willem's post

What? This:

Willem wrote:

why does it matter if it's real or not? i mean, it obviously is, but why are you so concerned with the possibility that someone took the time to photoshop something they could have easily faked in easier and more convincing ways? or they could've easily found an actually legit picture and just repost it

and why did you choose to share your concerns with the rest of the world?

You all are missing my point. It's not 'obviously real', maybe 5-6 years ago, but image manipulation has come a looooong way and is ridiculous easy to do anymore. People fake this kind of stuff, with this kind of content ALL THE TIME. For no reason. For lots of reasons. For no good reason.

The point is is that that is not actually relevant. Even if it was fake, the message is still important and true (only perhaps not for the specific person). We need feminism because there is some fucked up shit in this world._________________

Patty: *fistbump* While it's nice to know I'm not alone, it's not something I would wish on people.

Thy: It's all pretty terrible.

Dogen: Yeah, this keeps cropping up at work. I keep getting tricked into arguing and then realizing 'shit, this is not the time nor the place'.

Willem: I generally prefer online discussions because I'm pretty ass at arguing things in real life. I still default to avoiding confrontation (which I guess is probably for the best, considering this shit keeps happening at work). I have an abysmal memory, so I can't quote facts and I can lose my original point very easily.

But hey, I really appreciate all the responses._________________Samsally the GrayAce

You all are missing my point. It's not 'obviously real', maybe 5-6 years ago, but image manipulation has come a looooong way and is ridiculous easy to do anymore. People fake this kind of stuff, with this kind of content ALL THE TIME. For no reason. For lots of reasons. For no good reason.

You're still trying to answer the 'why'. That's moot. It does happen, regardless of why it happens, what you or I think should happen, it is a commonplace occurance.

your entire point was that it's technically possible for images to be altered congratulations for pointing that out

here, i made an image to prove your point:

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Prior to that, regardless of what you think, there could have been any number of reasons that picture existed. Hell, for all I knew there was an entire blog made up of just her image with people replacing the message with different messages.

Give me those reasons. And give me your reasoning for being suspicious about this at all. Tell me why it's important that you're 100% sure it's real. Also what snorri said.

Also you're an idiot_________________attitude of a street punk, only cutting selected words out of context to get onself excuse to let one's dirty mouth loose

Willem: When did you become illiterate? I've explained it. To death. Go back, read my posts, I've answered what you're asking. Multiple times._________________...if a single leaf holds the eye, it will be as if the remaining leaves were not there.http://about.me/omardrake

For the record, exif data is no reason to be suspicious of or to believe the authenticity of a photo. It's easy to fake and lots of programs strip the data (especially old software - there's no date on the photo to tell you it isn't mid-90s). Exif tells you nothing unless you have a reason to believe it (ie, you're looking at a photography website)._________________"Worse comes to worst, my people come first, but my tribe lives on every country on earth. Iíll do anything to protect them from hurt, the human race is what I serve." - Baba Brinkman

i asked you questions and you didn't answer them. you just offered irrelevant bullshit and vagueries. i didn't 'miss your point', i asked you different questions in the hope that thinking about them, you'd realise that:

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