Seems there's going to be a new competitor in the home console race. Short synopsis: the Ouya will be an inexpensive yet less powerful game system that will run off Android software and possibly become a haven for Indie devs to release their games on. It will be an open console and hackers are welcome to modify the box. The Kickstarter page has been live for lees than a day and they've already doubled their kickstarter goal of $950,000. Not bad.

If you want to read more, you can visit the links below. Kickstarter page with their details on the console.IGN article on the Ouya.

I'm very interested in this. The prospect of another console coming out of nowhere is rather exciting to me, and given the inexpensive price point, not too shabby. Can't say I'll get it, but I'll be keeping my eye on it. Given that the Ouya will be open and has a low barrier to entry for indie developers, I'd like to see the Ouya succeed.

Thoughts? Yeah, meh, wup-de-fucking-do?

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Already heard about it, and considering I don't do much with consoles anymore unless it is Nintendo then I don't really care.

If it is a nice haven for Indie developers then that is great, Indie developers do need more support. But Steam is already on its way of letting communities be more exposed to Indie Games (Steam Greenlight).

This looks dope as hell since consoles are the best for local multiplayer, hands down, and having a cheap, but highly flexible console with a potentially massive library of cheap and/or free games could be years of entertainment for chilling with friends. This would be the ultimate party game system. This has the potential to be the best thing to happen to consoles. I hope it kicks off.

To me from reading it, it seems like a big wup-de-fucking-do. The games are only free as demos, how is this familiar? Just seems like a glorified X-box Live only system without any chance of mainstream games.

The Kickstarter Page wrote:We're handing the reins over to the developer with only one condition: at least some gameplay has to be free. We borrowed the free-to-play model from games like League of Legends, Team Fortress 2, Triple Town, and many others. Developers can offer a free demo with a full-game upgrade, in-game items or powers, or ask you to subscribe.

The can offer a free demo and ask to upgrade to a full version, or developers can release full F2P games with a way to make back money via micro-transaction like TF2 or LoL.

At this point in time, saying that there is no chance of mainstream games being on the console is as fallacious as saying that the Ouya will be a great console for housing the high-profile games. Personally, I don't think it will be that type of hard core console as the 360 and PS3 are. However, I can see the console having some mainstream games, but the bulk of them would be ones that follow the F2P model.

Because this system will be easily hackable, I expect that emulators will become almost a staple for the console. Illegal, but cool if you want to pay $99 in part for a console that can play a bunch of retro games. I kinda hope that Valve decided to support the console by having Steam on the console and allow players access to games (within reason; not graphic intense or high-profile games) to play, but I'll keep dreaming.

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So, drama is kicking off over the Ouya. People are starting to realise that actually this all sounds a lot like a scam. People are paying money for an *idea*. No games have been confirmed. Woman is charge isn't looking for funding outside of Kickstarter. Flaws are being pointed out. For all intents and purposes, people have just throw 4 million dollars at vaporware. /v/ had a discussion on on the scam potential. Warning: nsfw, porn and it's /v/; there's angry manchildren everywhere.

Essentially there will be no AAA games, since no dev will want to have their cashcows on a system that can be hacked to death. Instead it will be just indie games. Y'know, the ones you can play for free online or buy for a few pounds on your phone instead of, say, buying a $99 console to do so.

Hilarious thing is, once funding has been closed, you can't get your money back even if the product never arrives. So will all the funding get pulled right before the final day as people get spooked? Will there be butthurt everywhere as that woman jets off to a Far Eastern country with lots of gamer money? Will this sink Kickstarter? Or will it actually deliver?

Grab your popcorn, this is going to be good.

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Raya wrote:Instead it will be just indie games. Y'know, the ones you can play for free online or buy for a few pounds on your phone instead of, say, buying a $99 console to do so.

What about Indie games like Amnesia, Audiosurf, Beat hazard, Bastion, Braid, Limbo, Penumbra, or others that aren't available on smart phones but require Steam/XBLA/PSN and a computer/console?

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Raya wrote:Essentially there will be no AAA games, since no dev will want to have their cashcows on a system that can be hacked to death. Instead it will be just indie games.

I got the impression, that was the point of this thing. It's not supposed to be powerful enough to be running the mainstream triple A games is it? I was under the impression this was supposed to exist to give the indies an easier to work with and freeer console market than the things like xbla and psn. But yeah talking about the kind of indies Smash was talking about rather than free flash/phone stuff. This is just the impression I've pciked up from browsing around other places, I could be wrong on that. I'm all for supporting them, The Binding of Isaac is one of my most played games ever after all. But I'm not sure they really need such a platform, the PC already does a fairly good job of being the easy to work with platform for them. That said yeah I think this will be an interesting ride, I think a lot of people are buying into the idea thinking it is going to be something like a $99 dollar current gen mainstream console. I'm not that sure this is a scam but I very much doubt they'll deliver on such a belief, one way or the other.

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smashbro wrote:What about Indie games like Amnesia, Audiosurf, Beat hazard, Bastion, Braid, Limbo, Penumbra, or others that aren't available on smart phones but require Steam/XBLA/PSN and a computer/console?

Let's me perfectly honest here. If you walked into a game retailer and asked the patrons how many of them are going to have heard of those games, let alone have bought and played them? It's a rare indie game that gets massively popular. I'm willing to bet the amount of money all of those you mentioned combined isn't even close to Mario Rehash #457. It's always the best games that never get played, sadly.

Consoles need games to survive. What does the Ouya offer? Nothing. Where are all the companies offering to port their games? Even emulators are going to have trouble, as said companies aren't going to sit by and let people essentially pirate their games. Sure, it can be a platform for homebrew indie games. Which is nice, except you can do that on a phone/in a browser, and you don't need to fork out for a box for it. A phone and a computer do other vital tasks, they're worth the investment. But an entire console for it?

Assuming the Ouya gets released (and I'm willing to bet it never does), quality control is going to be a big issue. Are the makers going to veto every game, which cuts into their mission statement about it being open? Or are they going to be let it filled with whatever crap people submit?

I think this is going to be a moot point though. The Ouya will never materialise. If it does, it's going to be flop. It can't hold up to its promises. And the fallout is going to be glorious.

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it's maybe just an idea but, if you pay for the ouya, you receive a box, a joystick and a hdmi cable.admit i have my laptop and my own joystick, i pay for the cable and have the same effect because i must pay after for the game i don't have.if it's the android, an emulator can exist elsewhere