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Its seriously incredible how many ways you can die at that height. Lack of oxygen, altitude sickness, hypothermia, frostbite, etc. The most ridiculous part for me is that if you die while making a summit attempt, your body just stays where it lies. There is no way for anyone to get you down off the mountain. Apparently helicopters can't go that high, so its really one of the last places on earth where noone can help you. Its totally up to you if you live or die.

Double-amputee climber Mark Inglis revealed in an interview with the press on May 23, 2006, that his climbing party, and many others, had passed a distressed climber, David Sharp, on May 15, sheltering under a rock overhang 450 meters below the summit, without attempting a rescue. The revelation sparked wide debate on climbing ethics, especially as applied to Everest. The climbers who left him said that the rescue efforts would be useless and only cause more deaths because of how many people it would have taken to pull him off. Much of this controversy was captured by the Discovery Channel while filming the television program Everest: Beyond the Limit.

As this debate raged, on May 26, Australian climber Lincoln Hall was found alive, after being declared dead the day before. He was found by a party of four climbers (Dan Mazur, Andrew Brash, Myles Osborne and Jangbu Sherpa) who, giving up their own summit attempt, stayed with Hall and descended with him and a party of 11 Sherpas sent up to carry him down. Hall later fully recovered.

Its pretty awesome stuff. Anybody see this show? Anybody ever climb a mountain in real life? Is there any cool mountainous features near where you live that are good to hike?

What I don't get is why helicopters can't fly at that altitude. I know it has something to do with the rotating blades as opposed to regular airplanes, which regularly fly at altitudes much higher than that.

What I don't get is why helicopters can't fly at that altitude. I know it has something to do with the rotating blades as opposed to regular airplanes, which regularly fly at altitudes much higher than that.

What I don't get is why helicopters can't fly at that altitude. I know it has something to do with the rotating blades as opposed to regular airplanes, which regularly fly at altitudes much higher than that.

What I don't get is why helicopters can't fly at that altitude. I know it has something to do with the rotating blades as opposed to regular airplanes, which regularly fly at altitudes much higher than that.

The air isn't thick enough for the blades to provide lift.

Thats what I thought. At the same time, wouldn't you think they would come up with some kind of system to actually get dead / dying people off the mountain?

What I don't get is why helicopters can't fly at that altitude. I know it has something to do with the rotating blades as opposed to regular airplanes, which regularly fly at altitudes much higher than that.

What I don't get is why helicopters can't fly at that altitude. I know it has something to do with the rotating blades as opposed to regular airplanes, which regularly fly at altitudes much higher than that.

The air isn't thick enough for the blades to provide lift.

Thats what I thought. At the same time, wouldn't you think they would come up with some kind of system to actually get dead / dying people off the mountain?

Also, I'm pretty sure that few countries consider it a legal obligation to help someone out. You're doing something like that for the thrill of it - You fuck up don't expect other civillians to go out on a limb for you.

It makes me think of those people who die from auto-erotic asphyxiation. You can't be overly surprised when one of them gets it wrong.

What I don't get is why helicopters can't fly at that altitude. I know it has something to do with the rotating blades as opposed to regular airplanes, which regularly fly at altitudes much higher than that.

The air isn't thick enough for the blades to provide lift.

Thats what I thought. At the same time, wouldn't you think they would come up with some kind of system to actually get dead / dying people off the mountain?

Yeah, basically. I mean it would certainly solve all the moral quandaries and stuff.

Also, I always wondered why they didn't just pack a parachute in with their shit. If they got stuck, or they got into a last ditch situation, they could always just jump off one of the cliffs and put up your parachute.

Also, I'm pretty sure that few countries consider it a legal obligation to help someone out. You're doing something like that for the thrill of it - You fuck up don't expect other civillians to go out on a limb for you.

It makes me think of those people who die from auto-erotic asphyxiation. You can't be overly surprised when one of them gets it wrong.

Also, I'm pretty sure that few countries consider it a legal obligation to help someone out. You're doing something like that for the thrill of it - You fuck up don't expect other civillians to go out on a limb for you.

It makes me think of those people who die from auto-erotic asphyxiation. You can't be overly surprised when one of them gets it wrong.

like steve irwin or u.s. soldiers

Pretty much. Note I said "surprised" not "sympathetic". That is another matter entirely.

What I don't get is why helicopters can't fly at that altitude. I know it has something to do with the rotating blades as opposed to regular airplanes, which regularly fly at altitudes much higher than that.

The air isn't thick enough for the blades to provide lift.

Thats what I thought. At the same time, wouldn't you think they would come up with some kind of system to actually get dead / dying people off the mountain?

Yeah, basically. I mean it would certainly solve all the moral quandaries and stuff.

Also, I always wondered why they didn't just pack a parachute in with their shit. If they got stuck, or they got into a last ditch situation, they could always just jump off one of the cliffs and put up your parachute.

well it would probably add a lot of weight and require a higher cliff than they are likely to encounter regularly

Also, I'm pretty sure that few countries consider it a legal obligation to help someone out. You're doing something like that for the thrill of it - You fuck up don't expect other civillians to go out on a limb for you.

It makes me think of those people who die from auto-erotic asphyxiation. You can't be overly surprised when one of them gets it wrong.

They have bodies that you literally have to step over up there because its not practical to even move them out of the way.

I'd say its pretty much every man for himself once you reach the "death zone"