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I call you an idiot because you make false conclusions to scenerio's where you ignore huge variables. . . that and the fact that you seem to WANT to take the unpopular opinion. Why force it? because the roda less travelled is that much more appealing? Because you feel like conformity is evil?. . that Idk, but I do remember being similar in my college years and sometime after that.

Not so far off from the king daddy, Violentcrez or whatever his name is imo.

Examples of variables I feel that you ignore based on reading your posts for years now:

-impact of leadership

-the psychology of the individual player

-pain

-Athletes' notoriously strong convictions and how they are effected by confidence and fear much more so than the average person.

I really dont bother reading many of your posts these days because Ive just given up trying to explain these things conceptually to you.

I don't "want" to take an unpopular opinion nor do I force it.....

I just am not a huge fan of players. I think for the most part they should come and go. That makes me different than many. Very, very few players should retire and spend a career with a franchise. That is the root of many recent opinions of mine.

If I was trying to be different for the sake of being different.....there would be more things you could point to outside of Dwayne Jarrett I have taken a stance on.

But I am fine if you ignore my posts. I enjoy different stances. That is pretty much the point of a board like this....to get different perspectives from people all wanting the same thing ultimately.

But I would be curious for you to elaborate on the impact of leadership comment....

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People don't realize at this point, Smitty will play and retire as a Panther. He has a couple of years left, maybe one, but he will never play for another team and everyone that thinks that needs to listen up.

Smitty made the choice with his family to stay with the Panthers, find a high school for his son to go to, and raise their kids accordingly.

He's made it clear numerous times that he'll always be a Panther, we can't get rid of him, and he doesn't wanna go anywhere else.

These thoughts are as ridiculous as the "Sir Cameron Newton: Leader of Men, Lover of Puppies...Esquire, lap top thief, entertainer icon" poo.

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Steve Smith is the best WR on this team, by a large margin. He should not, and can not be traded away without a proven replacement in hand. If you do, you hinder the development of our young QB. I just read somewhere that he is one of the league leaders for broken tackles at the WR position.

Would I love to see him leave and have a real chance at a SB run... I think so. Because I've grown to love and respect his game so much, I do want to see him achieve that milestone. I just wish that it could be with my team, and I'm sure he wishes the same. I think that's what drives him. He got a taste early and has been striving for another chance all these years. Fact is, the Panthers aren't that far away - talent wise. With better leadership and a few more playmakers, we're prime for a run. Though I feel, honestly, that we have legitimate playmakers on the bench that could put this team over the top in the areas most needed - Gettis (offense) and Adams (ST).

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Well, expand more on your most important one. I agree confidence is HUGE in this sport.....and fear IMO is pretty universal and the impact it can have.

I have surgery tomorrow, crooked shnoz is making me snore and get sick too often, I cant elaborate too much at the moment but I will promise to read more of your posts if youre interested in going beyond listening to my perspective.

The concept is this: any man who gets drilled by a guy 3 times his size and then gets up and smashes his head a few more times with both fists and yells "WOooooOOOOO" is sending a messege to the opposing team. You cannot take that away or let him be traded.

Chud is overrated and nothing like what is being pimped- last season when people wanted him as our HC

I typically get the, "CRA, you are an idiot" for such thoughts......

We should trade Smith or force him to retire after this year. Greatest Panther to date....but his time has run its course. He is one of MANY big moves we must start making. We need to move forward....I think as this season progresses that will become more clear. Bash away bc I know the Smitty man love is off the charts.....but his era is over and that era still holding on is one of several big problems IMO.

And what was your honest opinion of the Clausen draft pick?

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I have surgery tomorrow, crooked shnoz is making me snore and get sick too often, I cant elaborate too much at the moment but I will promise to read more of your posts if youre interested in going beyond listening to my perspective.

The concept is this: any man who gets drilled by a guy 3 times his size and then gets up and smashes his head a few more times with both fists and yells "WOooooOOOOO" is sending a messege to the opposing team. You cannot take that away or let him be traded.

I agree with that....I really do.

I just think he also sends a message with certain behaviors in 2010 and 2012 to his own teammates.....

I think that too often gets ignored bc of what you just mentioned. But pound for pound, Smitty is tough as nails and has many traits you wish more players had. I just think he brings more to the table than that.......and some of it is negative. The negative gets too often overlooked. He is a better fit for certain teams that are in certain windows...than others.

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I just think he also sends a message with certain behaviors in 2010 and 2012 to his own teammates.....

I think that too often gets ignored bc of what you just mentioned. But pound for pound, Smitty is tough as nails and has many traits you wish more players had. I just think he brings more to the table than that.......and some of it is negative. The negative gets too often overlooked. He is a better fit for certain teams that are in certain windows...than others.

Good luck with the surgery.

Thank you

and I understand that how us two weigh those things makes the difference in our opinions. This team is dire need of leaders now. They need conifidence badly and not the kind that comes through soft spoken words of encouragement. Whatever the cost with 89, I gladly pay it.

My favorite scene in the Batman begins is a scene where Rhazz Alghul is giving Batman his final test. "YOU HAVE TO BECOME AN IDEA". . you have to become what they fear most. Thats 89