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Die? Definitely not, though I dare say she won't be able to put on that mask again, not after Dark Chiffon exposed her for who she really is. Yeah, not gonna be fun for her once this is all said and done.

Die? Definitely not, though I dare say she won't be able to put on that mask again, not after Dark Chiffon exposed her for who she really is. Yeah, not gonna be fun for her once this is all said and done.

The situation continues to deteriorate, as the Chevalier troops are forced to retreat. Those who can retreat, anyway. Yumi is beside herself, Sister Margaret grills Gengo for more answers, and we finally see Suna, who's nowhere near West Genetics. In fact, it looks like she's gone to Gengo's old house by the lake. Interesting, yes?

We then switch to Roxanne, who fights bravely against the personal-type Novas. Though even she begins to get overwhelmed, and Charles looks on helplessly as She carries the still unconscious Arnett over her shoulders. Roxanne orders her teammate to retreat while she holds off her attackers. Charles does so, which leaves the Immortal to get serious. Unfortunately, it seems her valiant efforts have gotten the attention of the Nova commander, who graces Roxanne with her presence. She touches her cheek, and then the glowing infinity symbol appears in the air again. What it symbolizes is still unknown.

Charles tries to escape, but is cut off by more Novas, and it doesn't look good for the Young Tempest Phoenix. Meanwhile, Suna enters the basement of Gengo's old house, where she finds a strange laboratory. Could it be the fabled Lab 13? There's two pods already opened (chiffon and Lucie perhaps) and at least two more still occupied. Interesting.

Chapter 130 starts with Arnett reminiscing about her Papa. We see her in Nova Form, and then confronted by a ghost of Roxanne (maybe it was a ghost she saw in the first place). She finally regains consciousness, and finds Charles fighting off the personal-style Novas, but to no avail. She gets trapped in the jaws of one Nova, get her arm chewed off by another, and tells Arnett not to waste her breath (something like that) as she has no chance against them.

Then, in a surprise move, Arnett summons Scythe Machina and fights to save Charles from being completely devoured (the irony of it all). But after a few whacks, her weapon breaks into pieces. Her arm gets bitten, but before it could've been chewed off, her assailant's head explodes, for reasons unknown as the chapter comes to a close.

EDIT: In other news, it seems IDY is starting another Freezing spinoff, called Freezing P. And it seems to star Ganessa Roland, if you can believe that.

I mean the illusion of Chiffon that Ticy saw, due to the Novas' psychic attack. It told Ticy a lot of inconvenient truths which she clearly didn't want to hear. And we still don't know if she transcended, lowered her stigma synchronization rate so the illusion would've disappeared, or what. Hopefully we';ll find out in another four weeks.

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Originally Posted by Key Board

is having a spinoff a good thing in this series?

there are two characters with their own spinoff..

we know what happened to them..

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Just found new information. The full title is "Freezing Pair: Love Stories," and apparently each chapter will show how certain Pandoras and Limiters first met and became bonded. The first chapter features Ganessa and Arthur. Next chapter, can't say as of now, we'll have to wait until April 27 to find out.

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Originally Posted by waffler

sooo whats kazuyas importance in all of this i forgot hes the mc since hes so weak even though he could use freezing on pandoras in pandora mode now hes like poopoo :/

If you're expecting him to go Super Kazuya and obliterate all the Novas, then you're going to be disappointed. He's never been a "destroy all enemies" kind of MC, and I hope he will never will.

As for him being "poo poo," nothing could be further from the truth. He's had more character development in this arc than possibly the rest of the story. And he's bound to have even more the next time he sees Gengo, can't wait for it.

kazuya is not bad just was forced a destiny not of his choosing thanks to gengo the asshole aoi

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"I do not hate you. I do not think your a monster just another species trying to live like us humans. If there is a monster in this world its nature itself for wanting and allowing spectacles of death and destruction."

stella how could you impale kazuya like that bad girl no hamburger for you

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"I do not hate you. I do not think your a monster just another species trying to live like us humans. If there is a monster in this world its nature itself for wanting and allowing spectacles of death and destruction."

I mean the illusion of Chiffon that Ticy saw, due to the Novas' psychic attack. It told Ticy a lot of inconvenient truths which she clearly didn't want to hear. And we still don't know if she transcended, lowered her stigma synchronization rate so the illusion would've disappeared, or what. Hopefully we';ll find out in another four weeks.

Spoiler:

Just found new information. The full title is "Freezing Pair: Love Stories," and apparently each chapter will show how certain Pandoras and Limiters first met and became bonded. The first chapter features Ganessa and Arthur. Next chapter, can't say as of now, we'll have to wait until April 27 to find out.

If you're expecting him to go Super Kazuya and obliterate all the Novas, then you're going to be disappointed. He's never been a "destroy all enemies" kind of MC, and I hope he will never will.

As for him being "poo poo," nothing could be further from the truth. He's had more character development in this arc than possibly the rest of the story. And he's bound to have even more the next time he sees Gengo, can't wait for it.

Nah he is rather worthless. It's less of a case of him being able to obliterate his enemies more of the case he CAN freeze most of the opponents satelizer faced (hell he could of frozen satelizer in this very chapter) and barely ever does it. It's moronic and just screams of bad planning.

If he was supposed to be the pointless weak human, then make him a weak human don't give him a strong power and then make him never use it, when anyone with half a brain would. He should be a lot more useful than he is and it undermines his character in every battle he exists in.

It's gotten so bad other limters do more in battles than he freaking does, and he's supposed to be stronger and have more potential than any of them and yet does barely anything. He's a rather extreme example of an author who has no idea what to do with a character, (then again the author never had any idea what to do with this plot to begin with, hence the over a hundred chapters of monthly manga with fuck all plot progression). It's quite sad really.

The sad thing like THT mentioned is that Kazuya is supposed to be this extra special character with all the stigma he has in his body, but jack shit is really done about it. I hear the argument from some b-but he's Satellizer's emotional support and....so what? If I wanted that I'd go read some sappy shoujo. I wanna see him kick ass and not cry like a little girl who lost their barbie all the time. He wasn't that bad early on when he actually did something, but it's been all downhill ever since...

It just goes to show that Dal-Young doesn't know how the hell to write a character that doesn't have boobs and a vagina. Sure there's Aflame Inferno, but look where that's at and technically he does have a female in him...

Geez, what happened to the Kazuya that using Freezing on regular joe smucks who assaulted his classmates (with a gun no less) and punched the guy out? Sure he collapsed right after but that cemented some hardcore respect for him back then.

"Where have all the good men gone~"

@ Johnny - heh, that's so true for Aflame. Sure, guy acted like an ass but there were other males in the story who, despite being bad, were good characters in their own right. And Gehenna is still my favorite of Dal-Young's characters.

Geez, what happened to the Kazuya that using Freezing on regular joe smucks who assaulted his classmates (with a gun no less) and punched the guy out? Sure he collapsed right after but that cemented some hardcore respect for him back then.

"Where have all the good men gone~"

@ Johnny - heh, that's so true for Aflame. Sure, guy acted like an ass but there were other males in the story who, despite being bad, were good characters in their own right. And Gehenna is still my favorite of Dal-Young's characters.

I forget the dudes name but dat main bad guy, is probably my favourite Dal-Young Villain. Actually started rooting for him part way through his adventure, he's not so much an evil ass for the sake of being an ass more a person with opossing view points that do make some sense. He also gets a decent amount of character development and is a brains rather than brawns sorta guy.

I think it really came to to author realizing that if Kazuya was even mildly competant with the abilities he had Satelizer's importance will be diminshed (because combat wise there really isn't anything remarkable about her in comparison to other pandora) so if pretty much went fuck Kazuya and gave all development to Satelizer. I could never understand why he couldn't just you know develop both characters..

Ah, talking about Pandemonium? Kid that handed Gehenna her ass when they fought? XD Yeah.

It's like Dal-Young gets scared of having a strong male character sometimes that doesn't have to rely on a woman. Sure, getting Thanatos's girl and making her into one of his Modded Templars was a dick move but in context and in terms of strategy, it was a brilliant move too.

We all know he draws great-looking girls but seriously, many of them are messed up in the head.

I agree kazuya was a decent character back int he beginning but now. he just went from great to pathetic. I can't believe he didn't think of freezing stella then talking to her she wasn't in state for any normal approaches and look what he got for his trouble impaled by his bestfriend/girlfriend

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*sighs* it's sad that the MC finds himself not getting stronger, mature, smarter, knocked around, and he still barely does a thing especially if his GF is getting her butt kicked . Did the author just forget about Kazuya's development? It's getting really tired that the MC starts to take action more real late in the story or even in the middle after all that worry, crying, depressing, etc. It's really troublesome if Kazuya never had the chance to really shine until a out of nowhere moment THIS FAR AHEAD in the plot.

It's a bad idea to keep a character rolling around the bend, not doing much of anything and never accomplishes a moment worth watching until the end or never at all in the manga, after all the potential he can do and work together with his love interest whose also strong.

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Right now I'm busy destroying Deadly Fishes of Destruction. Remind me to come up with a new Signature later...

Whoa, these chapters were truly intense. Seems it was Satellizer and Rana that just saved Arnett from becoming Nova chow. And with their transcendent powers, they start kicking some serious Nova butt. Kazuya then demonstrates his further Freezing prowess, as he immobilizes the Novas with omnidirectional Freezing, yet his partners are unaffected. Both Arnett and Charles are in shock over what they were witnessing. The chapters ends with Charles telling her saviors that Roxanne was in danger.

The next one has Lucie finally coming clean with her fellow Valkyries. She admits she's not a Valkyrie, but a True Pandora, created by Gengo Aoi. She and her sisters were created to fight against the brutal sisters (most likely the Novas) who feared those who had transcended. She then tells them to leave the battlefield, as it would've been a place for True Pandoras to congregate.

After that, Ticy is still being plagued by the ersatz Chiffon, and finally sees her pupils being slaughtered. She tries to defend against the Novas, but it seems futile. But before she's devoured, a familiar set of stigma beams strike her attacker. She looked, and sees Elizabeth and Andre on the field. The phantom Chiffon continues to taunt, but then she soon realizes it's the real Chiffon, and finally realizes what she meant about leadership. The ribbon falls away, and she finally becomes her own person. She then transcends, and starts cleaving up the Novas, much to Elizabeth's delight.

Whoa, these chapters were truly intense. Seems it was Satellizer and Rana that just saved Arnett from becoming Nova chow. And with their transcendent powers, they start kicking some serious Nova butt. Kazuya then demonstrates his further Freezing prowess, as he immobilizes the Novas with omnidirectional Freezing, yet his partners are unaffected. Both Arnett and Charles are in shock over what they were witnessing. The chapters ends with Charles telling her saviors that Roxanne was in danger.

The next one has Lucie finally coming clean with her fellow Valkyries. She admits she's not a Valkyrie, but a True Pandora, created by Gengo Aoi. She and her sisters were created to fight against the brutal sisters (most likely the Novas) who feared those who had transcended. She then tells them to leave the battlefield, as it would've been a place for True Pandoras to congregate.

After that, Ticy is still being plagued by the ersatz Chiffon, and finally sees her pupils being slaughtered. She tries to defend against the Novas, but it seems futile. But before she's devoured, a familiar set of stigma beams strike her attacker. She looked, and sees Elizabeth and Andre on the field. The phantom Chiffon continues to taunt, but then she soon realizes it's the real Chiffon, and finally realizes what she meant about leadership. The ribbon falls away, and she finally becomes her own person. She then transcends, and starts cleaving up the Novas, much to Elizabeth's delight.

should have known a total ass pull there was no way they be winning unless they had deus ex powers out of nowhere

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"I do not hate you. I do not think your a monster just another species trying to live like us humans. If there is a monster in this world its nature itself for wanting and allowing spectacles of death and destruction."