Attached are some scans from the citations I mentioned earlier - in order Kawaishi, Mifune, Feldenkrais.

Wow! Dakotajudo, thanks for the illustrations. I can see now what you guys were talking all along.

Originally Posted by Reese

The only leg crossing I do in that position is as pictured in my crappy drawing.

So far no one has managed to get an ankle when positioned thusly.

Thanks for the illustration, Reese. I think this is how we were actually told to leg cross, but I think most of us n00bs at the class have not seen the difference between that 'triangle' and the ankle locking.

The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris