Welcome back Alex!
excited to try out this Park Recipe from Pat aka Restoreit

Quote:
Originally Posted by restoreit1

I use metal prep and etch sold in 1 gal amounts at Home depot it is green in color and about 85% phosphoric acid. The manganese can be found in pottery shops and on the net for under $5.00 a pound.

I use 2 OZ acid
1 oz manganese
1 gal water

So if you need more solution just repeat .

I use well water or tap water, heat solution to at least 195 degrees then add 2 steel wool pads (non soap) let cook until pads are dissolved. parts will fizz like hell the longer you cook the blacker parts come out. Then I dunk in water to rinse air dry with compressed air getting all water out of cracks. then spray with wd 40 or any oil preferably wd40 first then dunk in oil . let set for a couple days to set up .

Welcome back Alex!
excited to try out this Park Recipe from Pat aka Restoreit

Quote:
Originally Posted by restoreit1

I use metal prep and etch sold in 1 gal amounts at Home depot it is green in color and about 85% phosphoric acid. The manganese can be found in pottery shops and on the net for under $5.00 a pound.

I use 2 OZ acid
1 oz manganese
1 gal water

So if you need more solution just repeat .

I use well water or tap water, heat solution to at least 195 degrees then add 2 steel wool pads (non soap) let cook until pads are dissolved. parts will fizz like hell the longer you cook the blacker parts come out. Then I dunk in water to rinse air dry with compressed air getting all water out of cracks. then spray with wd 40 or any oil preferably wd40 first then dunk in oil . let set for a couple days to set up .

247Nino, I tried that exact formula. Mixed it per Pat's instructions. It took forever to park. My receiver was in the mix for an hour and it didn't look like it fully coated. Let me know how yours comes out.
--Mach

247Nino, I tried that exact formula. Mixed it per Pat's instructions. It took forever to park. My receiver was in the mix for an hour and it didn't look like it fully coated. Let me know how yours comes out.
--Mach

aww now I dont know what to if that doesnt work. Pat parked my kits before he sent them to me... got any pics of how yours came out?

247Nino, I tried that exact formula. Mixed it per Pat's instructions. It took forever to park. My receiver was in the mix for an hour and it didn't look like it fully coated. Let me know how yours comes out.
--Mach

The park we used @ Greg's was BLACK.. It came out a dark grey at first then it turned into a nice black. I probably left my stuff in there for about 20 mins.

The park we used @ Greg's was BLACK.. It came out a dark grey at first then it turned into a nice black. I probably left my stuff in there for about 20 mins.

Z, can we get the recipe? Lets get some sample pictures as well, if not we'll be using the same ol recipe at Alex's, which is a nice clean dark grey/olive park(on the right in the photo, left is "BBQ BFPU drop on the floor jump on it look").

The park solution we used at the Canyon country build party was Duracoats blend bought from Midway. Just added steel wool to darken. That stuff works fast and is not sensitive to temp. It's usually done in 10 min. Temp. range can be from 150-200 degrees with 175 being best.

The problem with parking at a build party is the time. You can't leave parts in for long periods of time. It will slow things down. Also, getting it to, and keeping it at 200 degrees per Pat's instructions will use up precious propane. Good luck with the park, and let me know how it goes.

The park solution we used at the Canyon country build party was Duracoats blend bought from Midway. Just added steel wool to darken. That stuff works fast and is not sensitive to temp. It's usually done in 10 min. Temp. range can be from 150-200 degrees with 175 being best.

The problem with parking at a build party is the time. You can't leave parts in for long periods of time. It will slow things down. Also, getting it to, and keeping it at 200 degrees per Pat's instructions will use up precious propane. Good luck with the park, and let me know how it goes.

thank you for the pic

Of those two, which would you say has better coverage and penetration?

Well basically I wanted to see if we can get close to the semi gloss finish that he does, which is this

The only experience I have is with the existing BP recipe which is nice but when I put my pistols together I might just reblast and park to get a uniform look. The trouble we were having was keeping the temp up since it was dec and jan.

Also, any suggestions on what flat I should buy? When I <chop>google fu</kick>, the first thing that comes up is Tapco. Should I dig deeper and look for something else, or is this a sufficient flat? What do you guys recommend?

Also, any suggestions on what flat I should buy? When I <chop>google fu</kick>, the first thing that comes up is Tapco. Should I dig deeper and look for something else, or is this a sufficient flat? What do you guys recommend?

Of those two, which would you say has better coverage and penetration?

Well basically I wanted to see if we can get close to the semi gloss finish that he does, which is this

The only experience I have is with the existing BP recipe which is nice but when I put my pistols together I might just reblast and park to get a uniform look. The trouble we were having was keeping the temp up since it was dec and jan.

??**JUNE 26, JUNE 27, JULY 10, JULY 11, JULY 17, JULY 18**??

The two mixes are about the same. You can experiment prior to the build party, but again for BP's time and temp are your enemies.

Which flat depends on which parts kit you have. Don't forget the Tapco FCG sale. Use coupon code "G2"....$20 FCG.

Well I'm gonna be out of a job in about a month(I work at Hollywood Video) so I was wanting to build pretty much the cheapest version I could. I assume by "which parts kit you have" you mean from which country of origin? Basically I don't have a parts kit yet so that's open for the future. I'm looking to get the receiver built and go from there.

Well I'm gonna be out of a job in about a month(I work at Hollywood Video) so I was wanting to build pretty much the cheapest version I could. I assume by "which parts kit you have" you mean from which country of origin? Basically I don't have a parts kit yet so that's open for the future. I'm looking to get the receiver built and go from there.

Well cheapest version..... What exactly is your budget first? If you let me know your budget, I can tell you if it is possible or not or what kind of cost you are looking at once I know your budget.

Well cheapest version..... What exactly is your budget first? If you let me know your budget, I can tell you if it is possible or not or what kind of cost you are looking at once I know your budget.

I don't have a specific dollar amount in mind but I guess if I had to put a number to it I'd say like $400. I hear that's a reasonable amount. Cheaper if possible, but I don't want something that jams every 3rd shot either.

I don't have a specific dollar amount in mind but I guess if I had to put a number to it I'd say like $400. I hear that's a reasonable amount. Cheaper if possible, but I don't want something that jams every 3rd shot either.

$400 is a ok amount. What I would suggest for you is that with any kit you find, you will want a matching #'s kit and with the original barrel. For example I have recently seen Romanian AK47 Kits for about $250-$300, matching #'s and original barrel.

After that, you just have to replace 6 of the foreign parts with US made parts. For example this is what I normally do,
Tapco Trigger Group (3 parts) $30
Cheap US made slant brake (1 part) $10-15
Receiver (1 part)
Pistol Grip (1 part) $10.

$400 is a ok amount. What I would suggest for you is that with any kit you find, you will want a matching #'s kit and with the original barrel. For example I have recently seen Romanian AK47 Kits for about $250-$300, matching #'s and original barrel.

After that, you just have to replace 6 of the foreign parts with US made parts. For example this is what I normally do,
Tapco Trigger Group (3 parts) $30
Cheap US made slant brake (1 part) $10-15
Receiver (1 part)
Pistol Grip (1 part) $10.

Parts- $67, US made stuff $50

Add about $120 to whatever parts kit you get then you are there.

Ok. That sounds very reasonable. Thanks for all the info. I had picked up tidbits of it from various sources, but you kinda compiled all the info I need. That's exactly the standard of quality and courtesy I'd expect from Calgunners.

So basically I'm looking at building this over the course of a couple months because of shipping times and budgets and what have you. And if I understood you correctly, I should get a Romanian receiver and that would be compatible with whatever Romanian parts kit I get down the road. I'm gonna order one now!

Ok. That sounds very reasonable. Thanks for all the info. I had picked up tidbits of it from various sources, but you kinda compiled all the info I need. That's exactly the standard of quality and courtesy I'd expect from Calgunners.

So basically I'm looking at building this over the course of a couple months because of shipping times and budgets and what have you. And if I understood you correctly, I should get a Romanian receiver and that would be compatible with whatever Romanian parts kit I get down the road. I'm gonna order one now!

The type of flat you need is a fixed stock ak47 flat with holes. You can also get the one with trunnion holes drilled if you wish but those might be off a little bit too.

Hey guys! Looks like a lot of interest as usual thanks for the welcome backs. I really wish I was still gone

well I was looking at dates and am leaning towards the middle or end of July. I have plenty of bdays and parties to attend on the weekends b4 then. I figure too this will help people who don't have parts to aquire some.

Hey guys! Looks like a lot of interest as usual thanks for the welcome backs. I really wish I was still gone

well I was looking at dates and am leaning towards the middle or end of July. I have plenty of bdays and parties to attend on the weekends b4 then. I figure too this will help people who don't have parts to aquire some.

So.... July- 17/18?
July 24/25?
July 31?

I'll set a poll later once we narrow down sat/sun.

Would this be a two day BP? Just wondering. I know a lot of times builds won't get finished the first day.

jared, you should help me demill mines... i have to redo my AK due my error of forgetting to heat treat both sides of the pin holes for the trigger so the trigger action isnt smooth anymore after ~100rds. hopefully this lands in a sat