The Original Radical Tour (Trisys 260) MP, Radical Tour TwinTube 630, and Pro Tour 630/280 all use the exact same mold. Starting with the Ti.Radical MP The Radical from there forward use a different molds. Today's Prestige MP is closer to the Pro Tour 630/280 in mold.

My friend bought around 15 rackets, each costed 15e. So he gave me all of them to try them out, and I ended up liking pt630 the most. I didn't even know what racket that was, I just liked the way it felt, it felt so solid on contact, best feel ever!!

So count me in the club. Got 2 over-grips on bare handle (because handle is #4, too big for me...anyway to make it smaller?????), rubber band instead of normal dampener = 340g total.

I never knew I could play with such a heavy racquet! I am even considering leading it up somewhere in the head.

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There is another way to make it smaller. The 'pallets' can be replaced. That is the thing that you shaved down, it can actually be removed and if you are able to find replacement pallets in your grip size (2, 3 etc), then the new size fits right in.

There's a thread somewhere here showing how to do it yourself. Tricky part is finding the "TK 76" pallet in your size. I do believe the newer "TK 82" also fit the racquet as well. The only difference is what they are made out of, so probably weights will vary, etc. Once you find that all you need is a hairdryer and some patience.

There is another way to make it smaller. The 'pallets' can be replaced. That is the thing that you shaved down, it can actually be removed and if you are able to find replacement pallets in your grip size (2, 3 etc), then the new size fits right in.

There's a thread somewhere here showing how to do it yourself. Tricky part is finding the "TK 76" pallet in your size. I do believe the newer "TK 82" also fit the racquet as well. The only difference is what they are made out of, so probably weights will vary, etc. Once you find that all you need is a hairdryer and some patience.

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There is even a Yuotube video howto. Anyway I prefer sinking the handle in very hot water rather than the hairdryer. Works better and faster for me. Good luck!!

I need help with the caps/grommet thing on the PTs. i think i'd like to get a full guard for my 280.... can't seem to find all the info together for the novice.
first off does "CAP'd" or "full CAPs" refer to a guard around the whole head?

so what guards are available to buy, and where can you buy them? i can't seem to find this "iprestige mp xl" guard anywhere... and is that one the most similar to the OEM full guard, which is now unavailable? what are the other options, and what are their weights?

i'm leaning to get the full guard, as i like how my 630 plays... but i might experiment a bit longer playing with them the way they are a while....
post reply if appropriate or email james dot ys dot yang @ gmail
THANKS!!!
James

I need help with the caps/grommet thing on the PTs. i think i'd like to get a full guard for my 280.... can't seem to find all the info together for the novice.
first off does "CAP'd" or "full CAPs" refer to a guard around the whole head?

so what guards are available to buy, and where can you buy them? i can't seem to find this "iprestige mp xl" guard anywhere... and is that one the most similar to the OEM full guard, which is now unavailable? what are the other options, and what are their weights?

i'm leaning to get the full guard, as i like how my 630 plays... but i might experiment a bit longer playing with them the way they are a while....
post reply if appropriate or email james dot ys dot yang @ gmail
THANKS!!!
James

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PS I'd also like to find out what you experienced PT players like for a setup after your experimentation regarding the bumper guards, strings, and grips. I'm looking for the fast track to a good setup. As far as playing style I am a baseliner with lots of topspin...
THANKS!

The Original Radical Tour (Trisys 260) MP, Radical Tour TwinTube 630, and Pro Tour 630/280 all use the exact same mold. Starting with the Ti.Radical MP The Radical from there forward use a different molds. Today's Prestige MP is closer to the Pro Tour 630/280 in mold.

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VS...
Still has my HEAD RADICAL TWIN TUBE MP ....good racquet,,,but not sure about good string for it?

I need help with the caps/grommet thing on the PTs. i think i'd like to get a full guard for my 280.... can't seem to find all the info together for the novice.first off does "CAP'd" or "full CAPs" refer to a guard around the whole head?

so what guards are available to buy, and where can you buy them? i can't seem to find this "iprestige mp xl" guard anywhere... and is that one the most similar to the OEM full guard, which is now unavailable? what are the other options, and what are their weights?

i'm leaning to get the full guard, as i like how my 630 plays... but i might experiment a bit longer playing with them the way they are a while....
post reply if appropriate or email james dot ys dot yang @ gmail
THANKS!!!
James

PS I'd also like to find out what you experienced PT players like for a setup after your experimentation regarding the bumper guards, strings, and grips. I'm looking for the fast track to a good setup. As far as playing style I am a baseliner with lots of topspin...
THANKS!

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Hey mate, CAPS=full guard yes. CAPS stands for computer assisted protection system iirc. The LM Prestige MP grommets from TW is CAPS and will fit the PT280/630 perfect. For normal/partial guard, get the LM Radical MP grommets from TW. I recommend LM over Youtek because the material of the older ones are of better quality. CAPS are around 30g, partial 10g less iirc. Definitely put on a leather grip, and the frame seems to work best with a thin poly setup.

Hey mate, CAPS=full guard yes. CAPS stands for computer assisted protection system iirc. The LM Prestige MP grommets from TW is CAPS and will fit the PT280/630 perfect. For normal/partial guard, get the LM Radical MP grommets from TW. I recommend LM over Youtek because the material of the older ones are of better quality. CAPS are around 30g, partial 10g less iirc. Definitely put on a leather grip, and the frame seems to work best with a thin poly setup.

I thought so:-?, that none of them would match up....I have two of PT 630 but they are pretty old now..
So the best way to get PT 630 (that is somewhat younger than 15y old frame) is to buy PT57A?

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I think best way is to buy PT630 again...if you like it's retail specs. It is still not a big problem to get them in reasonable condition and much cheaper than PT57A. I have bought around 10 PT630´s last year. Couple of them like new. Check stringforum. Hope this help.

How do you NORMALLY hit your forehand? Why? Does it give you BETTER result?

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rather old-fashioned with an eastern grip learned it in the 70´s
am able to get a lot of topspin out of it though if the situation asks for it
i was a bit confused by your former post and probably didn´t understand it correctly. where you suggesting, that one should alter forehand technique depending on the racket one uses?

rather old-fashioned with an eastern grip learned it in the 70´s
am able to get a lot of topspin out of it though if the situation asks for it
i was a bit confused by your former post and probably didn´t understand it correctly. where you suggesting, that one should alter forehand technique depending on the racket one uses?

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No, I just would want to know your best way of hitting with your PT630. So, its eastern grip for you! What's your string set up? Nice to hear you get a lot of spin from it.

Hit mine with a SW - works just fine. That said, I generally prefer the additional stiffness of the the Radical Trisys.
Spin generation off the ground is fine, even with 18x20 string pattern, but you notice it more on serve when comparing against a 16x18 frame.
Control is excellent though - more than makes up for any losses elsewhere.

Hit mine with a SW - works just fine. That said, I generally prefer the additional stiffness of the the Radical Trisys.
Spin generation off the ground is fine, even with 18x20 string pattern, but you notice it more on serve when comparing against a 16x18 frame.
Control is excellent though - more than makes up for any losses elsewhere.

Well, I'm not actively searching for one, let alone be able to afford it if I found it. I'd be just as happy if Head made an IG Prestige Mid 16x19 as a non-Pro Stock option...but not many non-pros seek out something like that, either.

I need some help....
Yesterday I bought two PT630. I already have two PT's with full CAP that I play with, but I found these and couldn't reject offer for 50eur. (Lucky me)
I saw on original Head covers that came with racquets on inside label that states production year 1995 (made in austria), they came without full CAP grommets. As they are in bad shape (grommets), I need to change them, so I found on our club pages that Radical Mp bumper, and grommets will fit.

I have in my shop 2x bumper and grommets from YT Radical MP, and I can get them today, will they fit PT?, and is there a difference because they are made from Teflon and not regular black ones.

I took some pictures of new and my old PT's, I will post them tomorrow...
thanks.

I need some help....
Yesterday I bought for 50 eur two PT630. I already have two PT's with full CAP that I play with, but I found these and couldn't reject offer for 50eur. (Lucky me)
I saw on original Head covers that came with racquets on inside label that states production year 1995 (made in austria), they came without full CAP grommets. As they are in bad shape (grommets), I need to change them, so I found on our club pages that Radical Mp bumper, and grommets will fit.

I have in my shop 2x bumper and grommets from YT Radical MP, and I can get them today, will they fit PT?, and is there a difference because they are made from Teflon and not regular black ones.

I took some pictures of new and my old PT's, I will post them tomorrow...
thanks.

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They will fit. You should not notice any big difference unless the weight is different which probably is. I would weigh the grommets first or racket with original and then with new grommets. You can tune it with lead tape then.

They will fit. You should not notice any big difference unless the weight is different which probably is. I would weigh the grommets first or racket with original and then with new grommets. You can tune it with lead tape then.

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Thanks for quick replay.
If i want to put full Cap grommets, would grommets from prestige YT mid fit the PT, as they are 18x20? or just MP prestige ( microgel or youtek).

Hey mate, CAPS=full guard yes. CAPS stands for computer assisted protection system iirc. The LM Prestige MP grommets from TW is CAPS and will fit the PT280/630 perfect. For normal/partial guard, get the LM Radical MP grommets from TW. I recommend LM over Youtek because the material of the older ones are of better quality. CAPS are around 30g, partial 10g less iirc. Definitely put on a leather grip, and the frame seems to work best with a thin poly setup.

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I'm looking to put a leather grip on my trek PT630 Austria with full CAPS. My other trek PT630 Austria has a leather grip, not sure which kind, and feels better and makes the grip size bigger which is what I want. Also looking to make the racquet more headlight and more manueverable as I'm playing lotsa doubles lately. Will making it more headlight ease the load on my shoulder which gets sore sometimes? I think it will, from a physics and physical therapy point of view... i'm a physical therapist.... SO....Which leather grip works best with this racquet and for what I'm looking for? Head, TW, Babolat, Volkl, Fairway, and where should I buy it?
Thanks in advance! james dot ys dot yang at gmail or reply here as appropriate. thanks and good tennis.

... one more question..... i'm using yonex super grap overgrips, which width 22 or 25 mm works best for feel if i go with the TW grips that offer different sizes? i'm thinking the 1.5 thickness ones are what i want too to increase the grip size a bit.

Guys I learnt from reading this comprehensive thread that a retail strung up PT630 ( with bumper guard not CAP ) weighs 340g and is about 8pts HL. Having the CAP will add around 10g.
Can someone tell me what is the new balance now? With all 10g distributed around the hoop I am afraid it might make sluggish.... Hence would using the Youtek/microgel radical bumper grommets would be better?