Hi GuysHad my first bite at riding on the track and am hooked! after the first couple of laps I thought to myself, "how am i going to justify ANOTHER wad of cash going towards 'cycling stuff' to the missus".

I am after the brains trusts help on a decent (cheap!) frame and fork set for someone like me who wants to use the track over winter once to twice a week as cross training for the road, not to win races with!Ive used the loaner bikes at the track (steel) but would love to have my own steed down the line that fits me right.I have wheels, cranks and good track bars just need a frame,fork and stem.

Im happy with steel (my preference) or aluminum and would prefer something more 'classic' looking than a space aged aero frame

Toppity,I do not have one. Have seen a few reports, it would seem they are OK/good.

You get what you pay for...

They are talked about a lot, on most of the cycling forums. DYOR.Would be a great beginners bike, for the cost, IMHO. (for those who wish to try out Track Racing, and see if it suits)The final decision, will be up to you.Good Luck.Cheers,BrentonO

Lone Rider- I rode on the long, dark road... before I danced under the lights.

brentono wrote:Toppity,I do not have one. Have seen a few reports, it would seem they are OK/good.

You get what you pay for...

They are talked about a lot, on most of the cycling forums. DYOR.Would be a great beginners bike, for the cost, IMHO. (for those who wish to try out Track Racing, and see if it suits)The final decision, will be up to you.Good Luck.Cheers,BrentonO

That is true with everything in life is it not? I'll be holding off for awhile anyway. This summer will be my first on the track for over 15 years. The old beast will be more than enough for me. I hope the Warrigal club has a regular Saturday met like CCCC did in the old days.

I'll be holding off for awhile anyway. This summer will be my first on the track for over 15 years. The old beast will be more than enough for me. I hope the Warrigal club has a regular Saturday met like CCCC did in the old days.

Money, can't buy "heart" or "ability"

Would think that a good old 531 Hillman would be lighter, anyway, IF? that is a valid point

All the best, for your return, "muscle memory" can help, you've been there, before.

Take it easy, to begin with, and enjoy it! (most importantly)

Cheers,BrentonO

Lone Rider- I rode on the long, dark road... before I danced under the lights.

I have one, and have given it a good thrashing around the local track. Verdict is... GREAT for the money, and it is a worthy competitor to other store-bought track bikes in the $1000-1500 price bracket.

The eBay ad's measurements are spot-on, provided you read where it clearly states the seat tube measurement is c-t. The TT measurement is more important for fit anyway.

Weight of the new bike is much less than my old bike with CR-MO frame (8.7 vs. 9.1kg), and welds are no more ugly than a Hillbrick Pista. Since the picture was taken I have replaced the alu forks with some CF forks, as the ride was noticeably rougher on Alu (SURPRISE!). So it is now down to 8.5kgs.

Thanks Ciaran, and pretty well as I had thought A good concise report there (as against the emotive bs some spruke) andwould be a decent entry level track frame, changing the forks is interesting,let us all know how it goes, good luck with your riding. ($for$ way better than a "LOOK" eh!)Cheers,BrentonO

Lone Rider- I rode on the long, dark road... before I danced under the lights.

the fork swap is no big deal. The fork offsets were both the same, so it was like for like. I much prefer the compliance of the CF forks, and on my local hotmix velodrome it really is noticeable.

And Brentono, I tip my hat to you. You were right about this one. Everyone should always listen to Brentono, he knows.

I look at this frameset for 230 delivered, and then look at the LOOK AL464 for $1000 delivered. Sure you get a gucci paintjob and some purdy welding on the LOOK, but I would be no quicker on the Look than I would be on this one. This way I have $800 in my pocket for spending on better things... Like a new wheelset for my road bike.

Now I just need to get my flying 200 down to a sub 13sec time and I'll be happy. (currently at a PB of 13.66)

ciaran wrote:And Brentono, I tip my hat to you. You were right about this one. Everyone should always listen to Brentono, he knows.

Thanks Ciaran A bit over the top quote, eh! "Everyone should always listen to Brentono"(I am actually surprised that anyone was "listening" but, it seems a few here,have been, recently, and acknowledged it! Thanks)

Lone Rider- I rode on the long, dark road... before I danced under the lights.

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