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Re: Dane Shows Us why the Nationalist Right will Win

No it has not. Legal immigration to Europe is not high and varies from country to country. We only accept highly educated peoples who can pay for their own way.

Foreigners now amount to 30% of Swiss, 19% of Sweden, 18% of Austria, 14% of UK, 13% of France. The corresponding population numbers were about half of that three decades ago.

Immigration rates amount to 1.6% in Swiss and Sweden, 0.9% in the UK and Germany (relatively to population size). This is three times higher than it was in 2000, and it keeps accelerating.

Thirty years ago France had 2M Muslims, now we have 4-5M (conservative estimations, 8% of pop), more radical then before. They dominate many of our main cities' surburbs and they amount to a third of the youth in Paris' region. In thirty years they will amount to 9M (15% of pop) and they will comprise the majority of the youth in Paris' region. In sixty years they will amount to 20M and dominate our main cities.

Immigration, identity and Islam are the biggest problems Europe will face this century. Their numbers will keep growing, problems will keep worsening, conflicts will multiply, and they will dominate the political landscape for the foreseeable decades. The backlash will be mostly against Muslims, then Africans, but also against Europeans.

I know you want Islam to rise in Europe. But there will be countless blood bathes. Become aware of it before it is too late and help us close the gates.

Re: Dane Shows Us why the Nationalist Right will Win

The border that the Danish man allegedly crossed while posing as an ISIS terrorist is located between Germany and Denmark. There are militarised border check points between EU member states and non-member states. But inside the EU, there are no border controls, which was why this specific border was not manned just like many other border crossings in Western Europe. The man is also a Danish citizen and it's hard to misidentify him as a terrorist as he is white.

The Skomagerhus border crossing between Denmark and Germany.

Last edited by ThirdTerm; 12-28-16 at 09:17 PM.

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Re: Dane Shows Us why the Nationalist Right will Win

Foreigners now amount to 30% of Swiss, 19% of Sweden, 18% of Austria, 14% of UK, 13% of France. The corresponding population numbers were about half of that three decades ago.

I see, so you are an ultra nationalist then. Guess those French and Germans in Switzerland are bad eh? You also do know that 70% of the "immigrants" in Sweden come from Europe right? But I am guessing for you anyone not of your country is a threat eh? Do you only count born outside the country, or even those who has one parent born outside the country?

Immigration rates amount to 1.6% in Swiss and Sweden, 0.9% in the UK and Germany (relatively to population size). This is three times higher than it was in 2000, and it keeps accelerating.

These numbers give no meaning. Got a link to them? Does that include emmigration or?

Thirty years ago France had 2M Muslims, now we have 4-5M (conservative estimations, 8% of pop), more radical then before. They dominate many of our main cities' surburbs and they amount to a third of the youth in Paris' region. In thirty years they will amount to 9M (15% of pop) and they will comprise the majority of the youth in Paris' region. In sixty years they will amount to 20M and dominate our main cities.

I see you been reading some far right demographics books. Top tip.. dont believe them, as they base their studies on inaccurate models.

Immigration, identity and Islam are the biggest problems Europe will face this century. Their numbers will keep growing, problems will keep worsening, conflicts will multiply, and they will dominate the political landscape for the foreseeable decades. The backlash will be mostly against Muslims, then Africans, but also against Europeans.

No the biggest problem is the far right who use immigration as an excuse to gain power again and put in place the 4th Reich.

I know you want Islam to rise in Europe. But there will be countless blood bathes. Become aware of it before it is too late and help us close the gates.

I dont want Islam to rise in Europe, where on earth did you get that idea? What I dont want, is yet another decade or 2 of massive discrimination based on ones religious beliefs. We tried that in the 1930s and 40s.. did not go well. A huge majority of Muslims in Europe are peaceful and secular.. do you not believe that?

Re: Dane Shows Us why the Nationalist Right will Win

Originally Posted by ThirdTerm

The border that the Danish man allegedly crossed while posing as an ISIS terrorist is located between Germany and Denmark. There are militarised border check points between EU member states and non-member states. But inside the EU, there are no border controls, which was why this specific border was not manned just like many other border crossings in Western Europe. The man is also a Danish citizen and it's hard to misidentify him as a terrorist as he is white.

The Skomagerhus border crossing between Denmark and Germany.

1) There are at the moment border controls between Germany and Denmark.. well on the Danish side. They are on the official border crossings. The above is not. It is a country road in the middle of no where. All borders have such places.

2) Are all terrorists brown or black in your eyes?

3) If he truly was an ISIS terrorist, then he would not dress up like a total moron. The ISIS "get up" might fit in some what in Syria and Iraq, but outside you stick out like a sore thumb, something you dont want to do if you are doing something criminal. It would be like walking around with a big sign above your head saying "I am a pick pocket" and then trying to pick pocket people..

Re: Dane Shows Us why the Nationalist Right will Win

Originally Posted by PeteEU

Guess those French and Germans in Switzerland are bad eh? You also do know that 70% of the "immigrants" in Sweden come from Europe right? But I am guessing for you anyone not of your country is a threat eh?

Having some European foreigners is great, having too many of them is an invasion. Because they do not share your culture and sometimes do not speak your language. They change your country into an English-speaking one and makes you no longer feel at home.

What I tried to explain to you is that those countries are also growing a xenophobia against other Europeans because they feel invaded. And given the extremely high shares of foreigners in those countries, it is understandable and legitimate for anyone but globalist bigots like you.

France has no problems so far with European immigration: we have a reasonable share of them. However we have way too many Muslims, and the resulting Islamophobia will also impact non-Muslim foreigners. We are also nearing the threshold for sub-saharian Africans (their fecundity alone will bring us past the saturation point).

These numbers give no meaning. Got a link to them? Does that include emmigration or?

Those numbers are meaningful and I would be happy to explain any question you have.

As for a source I got them from a printed French source. However the historical data for UK are easily found and I engage you to search data for your own country.

The immigration rate is a raw one, not a net one (does not include immigrants' departures). However we should not subtract all emigration from immigration: when your own people leave your country it makes the situation worse. Demographic deficit must not be compensated by Muslims: it is not worth it and we are entering a new age of automation anyway.

I see you been reading some far right demographics books.

Historical and present numbers come from the INED, our official demographic institute.

Projections are my own: a simple extrapolation of the yearly growth rate of the past twenty years. Note that this growth is currently accelerating, but I used a constant instead. Leftist projections are not very far from mine, albeit smaller, but they usually do stop at 2030-2050.

However with a third of Muslims among the youth in Paris' region, it should be obvious for anyone that this region will be Muslim way before the end of this century if we do nothing.

No the biggest problem is the far right who use immigration as an excuse to gain power again and put in place the 4th Reich.

The French far-right is a moderate party without any resemblance whatsoever with Nazism. Half of American republicans are more extreme than they are. However I can guarantee you that given how fast immigration and identity conflicts are rising, you will see extremism in Europe.

But those extremist movements will be the consequence, not the cause. Attacking the far-right is NOT the solution. You cannot extinguish a fire by masking the fire's light.

Also this time it will not be the majority crushing a minority. This time it will be two groups fighting each other: us versus them.

I dont want Islam to rise in Europe, where on earth did you get that idea?

You do support the immigration of Muslims, don't you? You do support the construction of Mosques, don't you?

Then you are mechanically supporting the rise of Islam in Europe.

A huge majority of Muslims in Europe are peaceful and secular.. do you not believe that?

Islam as an identity is rising. More and more Muslims are Muslim first, before being British or French. Religiosity and radicalism are more and more common among them, and the gap between us is widening.

We will be divided countries, plagued by hatred and conflicts, and they will demographically dominate our main urban areas.