Interesting is that typically you'd have to look for downright stalinist or nazi papers to see the term enemy of the people used. I suppose I shouldn't point out that being an enemy of the people meant that your life had no actual value.

Greece shows us that there is a kind of politician worse than the ones that break their election promises; the ones that keep their election promises.

The future is unknowable but the issue is not people speculating and putting forward their projection as a best guess, it is those who speculate and then insist that they are right and those who disagree are wrong.

Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer

Being upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

You mean doom mongers like the pre-referendum government and our own Hazir with their claims of an immediate post-referendum recession? Which became "but you haven't invoked article 50 yet" and is now "but you haven't left yet" etc?

Yes that is a reason why those who keep making incorrect predictions and change the goal posts are later told by the other side that they don't know the future. Doesn't make the other side obstinate for distrusting those repeatedly wrong.

Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer

Being upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

Well Randy, actually things are starting to unravel with businesses looking increasingly to cut the UK out of cross border supply lines. Enjoy the inertia while it lasts. Unless your government is going to act realistic within the next 22 months you'll long for the days that project fear was the worst case scenario.

Greece shows us that there is a kind of politician worse than the ones that break their election promises; the ones that keep their election promises.

Well it'd be pretty stupid for companies not to prepare for that and hope a deal will be reached. With the big problem is that right now there's no telling what the situation in two years will be so it's hard to make strategic decisions for the future.

Indeed Flixy, companies on both sides completing risk assessments and making plans is not the same thing as cutting the UK out of supply lines. Incidentally if there is no deal then since you have a balance of trade surplus that hurts the EU side more.

Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer

Being upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

Well it'd be pretty stupid for companies not to prepare for that and hope a deal will be reached. With the big problem is that right now there's no telling what the situation in two years will be so it's hard to make strategic decisions for the future.

Actually it's not, if a situation spins out of control, you brace for impact. You don't have a chipper conservation about how things might be alright after all. Which is why banks aren't waiting if the talks will deliver what they'd really want (nobody rocking the boat).

Greece shows us that there is a kind of politician worse than the ones that break their election promises; the ones that keep their election promises.

Indeed Flixy, companies on both sides completing risk assessments and making plans is not the same thing as cutting the UK out of supply lines. Incidentally if there is no deal then since you have a balance of trade surplus that hurts the EU side more.

Oh yeah, the project lie fantasy that the surplus is going to save you. I don't know what rubbish you use for information, but the reality is that exports to the UK count for less than the cohesion of the EU for most people overhere. And that includes decision makers and the so-called 'car lobby' in Germany.

Brexit is Brexit, and it means whatever we want it to mean.

Greece shows us that there is a kind of politician worse than the ones that break their election promises; the ones that keep their election promises.

Remember one part of Project Fear was that the unemployment rate would shoot up immediately if Britain voted to leave the EU?

Well today's figures show that the employment rate in the UK is now at the highest rate since records began in 1971.

Far from the prospect of leaving the EU causing jobs to flee the country, we now have a higher employment rate than ever recorded during our EU membership, higher than even since before we joined the European Community.

Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer

Being upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

How is she back pedaling from that? The manifesto published today repeats the claim that no deal is better than a bad deal: But the Conservative’s manifesto reads: “We continue to believe no deal is better than a bad deal for the UK.” http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7742516.html

Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer

Being upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

Indeed Flixy, companies on both sides completing risk assessments and making plans is not the same thing as cutting the UK out of supply lines. Incidentally if there is no deal then since you have a balance of trade surplus that hurts the EU side more.

Plans are nice. Actually putting a plan into motion is a completely different beast. You don't change a production pipeline inside a week. That's usually something you plan years for. Which, by the way, you won't have at that point.

When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?