"Did you meet Morrissey before working on some of the strings for Ringleader Of The Tormentors? EM: I didn’t meet him personally, I spoke to the producer Tony Visconti before starting but you know, he did not use what I did for the album anyway. It was not his style."

Exactly what is "Morrissey's style"?

"If I knew where good songs came from I'd go there more often." Leonard Cohen"I’ve always held the song in high regard because songs have got me through so many sinks of dishes..." Leonard Cohen

"Did you meet Morrissey before working on some of the strings for Ringleader Of The Tormentors? EM: I didn’t meet him personally, I spoke to the producer Tony Visconti before starting but you know, he did not use what I did for the album anyway. It was not his style."

It's Tony Visconti's final mix for the album. Certain parts from Morricone's full score are truncated as (presumably) directed by Morrissey. I personally prefer the fan mix with the full strings. It would certainly be something to see and hear performed live with a full string ensemble.

The original strings are far superior to my ears than on the final mix and really enhance the power of the song. I hope Moz relents one day and puts out the full string version officially.

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Well, remember, the full string mix we are hearing is a fan-made mix. It is very possible that Visconti deleted Morricone's cut contributions in finalizing the mix. We were only able to hear these strings because of a behind-the-scenes video that became public which included Morricone's ensemble performing passages to the song that were later removed.

Well, remember, the full string mix we are hearing is a fan-made mix. It is very possible that Visconti deleted Morricone's cut contributions in finalizing the mix. We were only able to hear these strings because of a behind-the-scenes video that became public which included Morricone's ensemble performing passages to the song that were later removed.

It's Tony Visconti's final mix for the album. Certain parts from Morricone's full score are truncated as (presumably) directed by Morrissey. I personally prefer the fan mix with the full strings. It would certainly be something to see and hear performed live with a full string ensemble.

Also have to say that Alain's basic, melancholic melody is somehow Morricone-esque in its own way. Always wanted to know more about the story behind this track. Did Alain know Morricone was going to be involved and then write music in that vein? Did Morricone himself choose this track to do the most work on?

I'm feeling nostalgic for the Ringleader era for the first time. Have a feeling it'll be reappraised much more positively in years to come (particularly with the right deluxe re-release).

Also have to say that Alain's basic, melancholic melody is somehow Morricone-esque in its own way. Always wanted to know more about the story behind this track. Did Alain know Morricone was going to be involved and then write music in that vein? Did Morricone himself choose this track to do the most work on?

I'm feeling nostalgic for the Ringleader era for the first time. Have a feeling it'll be reappraised much more positively in years to come (particularly with the right deluxe re-release).

Also have to say that Alain's basic, melancholic melody is somehow Morricone-esque in its own way. Always wanted to know more about the story behind this track. Did Alain know Morricone was going to be involved and then write music in that vein? Did Morricone himself choose this track to do the most work on?

I'm feeling nostalgic for the Ringleader era for the first time. Have a feeling it'll be reappraised much more positively in years to come (particularly with the right deluxe re-release).

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I don't know too much about stories behind the Dear God's productions, unfortunetely. Besides "Dear God Please Help Me" and "At last I am born" I cannot see other tracks which these string arraigment could work pretty well.

Oh, I knew that (in fact, I posted here on these very boards that Morrissey had to work with Morricone if he were going to record in Italy - lo and behold, Visconti announced that some time after).

What I was wondering is whether the demos (particularly Dear God's) had already been recorded before Morricone's involvement was confirmed, and whether the Maestro listened to the tracks and decided himself where children would sing, strings would be or how the whole creative process worked.

Ultimately it wasn't quite as monumental a collaboration as it could've been, but I still love what is there.