2-0 Baggies. Yeehahh. Well who would have pictured such a quix capitulation by the Poms given their position overnite and with their best batsman Root still in and looking good. Hats off to Hazlewood for starting the rot and Starc for polishing off the tail that he does so well.

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These rennovations make for a very pretty stadium for cricket. Much prettier than the MCG and more comfortable for the fans I am lead to believe with overhead fans (and it kept a grass bank!).

But to create an institution of the day/night test is brilliant when Melbourne and Sydney stole the Christmas and New Year holidays.

And while the BBL isn't for everyone looking for a good time, nor is Adelaide for that matter, they are trying to make an institution of a Dec 31 BBL home game. Take that Melbourne and Sydney inbetween tests!

Well done South Australia. Better red wine apparently than the rest of Aus too.

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Law 31.6 - benefit of the doubt for an dismissal appeal goes to the batsmanA third umpire call for a run out or stumping is a referral, not a review.

bolero wrote:2-0. Congrats Aussies.Hazlewood is an ideal no 3 bowler. Batsmen tend to underestimate him once they play out Starc and Cummins. He has this ability to pick up crucial wickets against the run of play.

Hazlewood opens the bowling Bolero or are you saying you would prefer he bowled at 3? I get grumpy with him when he tries to swing the ball and loses his accuracy. Also when he tries to bowl too fast. He needs to get back to doing what has worked so well for him.. putting 6 balls in the same spot and building pressure.

Paddles wrote:I just want to give some credit to the South Australia Cricket Assoc.

These rennovations make for a very pretty stadium for cricket. Much prettier than the MCG and more comfortable for the fans I am lead to believe with overhead fans (and it kept a grass bank!).

But to create an institution of the day/night test is brilliant when Melbourne and Sydney stole the Christmas and New Year holidays.

And while the BBL isn't for everyone looking for a good time, nor is Adelaide for that matter, they are trying to make an institution of a Dec 31 BBL home game.

Well done South Australia. Better red wine apparently than the rest of Aus too.

SACA had very little to do with it. The major renovation was done by the AFL in conjunction with the state government.Thank the taxpayer - ie me. You can thank me.

That's just the ground - which is pretty and helps. I find the MCG and Gabba to be not pleasing on eye at all. And as a stats man and ground fan - I of course like the antique scoreboard.

But the institution of a pinkie test and Dec 31 are further congratulations.

In fact - after Qld made Suncorp (Lang Park) one of the best rugby/rugby league (and soccer) grounds in the world, I'm surprised the Gabba is still so awful after rennovations (besides the pool - which is great!)

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Law 31.6 - benefit of the doubt for an dismissal appeal goes to the batsmanA third umpire call for a run out or stumping is a referral, not a review.

Katto wrote:SACA had very little to do with it. The major renovation was done by the AFL in conjunction with the state government.Thank the taxpayer - ie me. You can thank me.

That's just the ground - which is pretty and helps. I find the MCG and Gabba to be not pleasing on eye at all.

But the institution of a pinkie test and Dec 31 are further congratulations.

In fact - after Qld made Suncorp (Lang Park) one of the best rugby/rugby league (and soccer) grounds in the world, I'm surprised the Gabba is still so awful after rennovations (besides the pool - which is great!)

That's just the ground - which is pretty and helps. I find the MCG and Gabba to be not pleasing on eye at all.

But the institution of a pinkie test and Dec 31 are further congratulations.

In fact - after Qld made Suncorp (Lang Park) one of the best rugby/rugby league (and soccer) grounds in the world, I'm surprised the Gabba is still so awful after rennovations (besides the pool - which is great!)

Nothing wrong with either ground IMO.

The MCG is so ugly it looks something China would build while comming in under budget just to get a capacity record and the Gabba looks like someone threw up over all the seats and forgot to incorporate any aesthetic beauty or keep/create/emphasise a single landmark be it the view, a stand, a scoreboard or just anything remarkably pretty.

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Law 31.6 - benefit of the doubt for an dismissal appeal goes to the batsmanA third umpire call for a run out or stumping is a referral, not a review.

Am very pleasantly surprised that the much-ridiculed Shaun Marsh has come good in this series. Australia's batting is its weakness - and you can't expect Smith to come good every time. Marsh stepping up is the best thing to have happened to Australia this series so far.

most impressive thing about Marsh is how still his head is and how organised he is at the creasethe antithesis of Peter Handscomb

England weren't far away in this test. Their seam bowling line up is still excellent although they have a weakness in the spin department.The batting is similar to Australia, a bit hit and miss. the line up that is. Some of the individuals are excellent.Lyon is probably the difference between these two teams. That will be nullified in Perth and possibly Melbourne too.

"I had to have a sleeping pill last night. It has been a pretty tough 24 hours if I'm being honest," Smith said in the post-match press conference in Adelaide.

"It's all part of being captain of your country. You have to make difficult decisions and sometimes you're going to make the wrong decision.

"It's all part of the learning experience and hopefully I can learn something from this game.

Smith was ultimately vindicated for his big day three call. Pic: Getty"I'll think back and reflect I guess over the next day or so and think what I could've perhaps done differently, what I could've done better and just areas that I can continue to improve in my leadership and captaincy as well."

geeshI wonder who else had sleeping pills...maybe Bancroft and Khawaja?

"I had to have a sleeping pill last night. It has been a pretty tough 24 hours if I'm being honest," Smith said in the post-match press conference in Adelaide.

"It's all part of being captain of your country. You have to make difficult decisions and sometimes you're going to make the wrong decision.

"It's all part of the learning experience and hopefully I can learn something from this game.

Smith was ultimately vindicated for his big day three call. Pic: Getty"I'll think back and reflect I guess over the next day or so and think what I could've perhaps done differently, what I could've done better and just areas that I can continue to improve in my leadership and captaincy as well."

geeshI wonder who else had sleeping pills...maybe Bancroft and Khawaja?

thankfully Hazlewood and Starc were on their game today

Did he have a lot of red bull as well? Aussie sportsmen are always mixing sleeping tablets with red bull and caffeine drinks.

"Ain't nuthin like an Ozzie Stilnox party."

Law 31.6 - benefit of the doubt for an dismissal appeal goes to the batsmanA third umpire call for a run out or stumping is a referral, not a review.

"I'll think back and reflect I guess over the next day or so and think what I could've perhaps done differently, what I could've done better and just areas that I can continue to improve in my leadership and captaincy as well."

The most important thing that needs to be drilled into Smith's head is "Never give a sucker an even break".This England side will come back hard at you if you give them an inch - so don't.You don't need to be with Ruth all the time - be ruthless.

The most important thing that needs to be drilled into Smith's head is "Never give a sucker an even break".This England side will come back hard at you if you give them an inch - so don't.You don't need to be with Ruth all the time - be ruthless.

I said that at least twice since Smith made that decision. All accounts I've seen from him he appears to have regretted it.It wasn't simply a numbers game either here, he had to take the prevailing conditions into account and the timing of when an England innings would've commenced.

The most important thing that needs to be drilled into Smith's head is "Never give a sucker an even break".This England side will come back hard at you if you give them an inch - so don't.You don't need to be with Ruth all the time - be ruthless. Oh how very true. Some media are saying that Smith's no enforce of follow on has been vindicated as we won. Not sure I agree with that as had we sent them back in this match could have been over by the end of the fourth day.

Was a topsy turvy kinda time for you and the other English boys Boycs. Have you changed your mind about the 5-0 whitewash. What was your view on Smiths no enforce of follow on when we had your blokes on the canvas?

Good debut for Overton though. Secured his spot for the next Test hasn't he? Probably in all the circus of the declaration, shambolic England collapse after such promising opening salvos, excetera excetera, he's been lost amidst the media scree.

Loose halo wrote:Hate to state the obvious but Australia's bowling attack is formidable. It has taken years to get it right let's just hope and pray there are no more injuries.

David Saker did it for England and now is doing it for his home country.

We had a similar attack in the last Ashes series but were still out-bowled in the pivotal third test. There's a lot to be said for knowing local conditions.Lengths seem to be the margins that touring teams struggle most with.

Hmmm. Though that's no doubt true to a degree there must be a point where short pitch bowling is obviously too short and I can't help but think that we reached that point many times with the England bowlers thus far.

Is it endemic to English bowlers? Or just to bowlers for teams I support in general

Loose halo wrote:Hate to state the obvious but Australia's bowling attack is formidable. It has taken years to get it right let's just hope and pray there are no more injuries.

David Saker did it for England and now is doing it for his home country.

We had a similar attack in the last Ashes series but were still out-bowled in the pivotal third test. There's a lot to be said for knowing local conditions.Lengths seem to be the margins that touring teams struggle most with.

Yes but who was our bowling coach then?

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Coaching

On 8 April 2010, Saker was appointed as the fast bowling coach of the England cricket team, replacing the departing Ottis Gibson.[1] After Saker's key role in the team winning the 2010–11 Ashes series, he was handed a new three-year contract.[2]

Saker left the English job in early 2015, and was appointed head coach of the Melbourne Renegades in the Big Bash League.[3] Two months later, he was also appointed coach of the Victoria Bushrangers in first class and one day cricket.[4] He led Victoria to the Sheffield Shield in his only season with the state, and was then appointed fast-bowling coach for the Australian national cricket team in July 2016.[5]

Katto wrote:We had a similar attack in the last Ashes series but were still out-bowled in the pivotal third test. There's a lot to be said for knowing local conditions.Lengths seem to be the margins that touring teams struggle most with.

Yes but who was our bowling coach then?

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Coaching

On 8 April 2010, Saker was appointed as the fast bowling coach of the England cricket team, replacing the departing Ottis Gibson.[1] After Saker's key role in the team winning the 2010–11 Ashes series, he was handed a new three-year contract.[2]

Saker left the English job in early 2015, and was appointed head coach of the Melbourne Renegades in the Big Bash League.[3] Two months later, he was also appointed coach of the Victoria Bushrangers in first class and one day cricket.[4] He led Victoria to the Sheffield Shield in his only season with the state, and was then appointed fast-bowling coach for the Australian national cricket team in July 2016.[5]