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If they want to have 10,000 people showing up from around the country, they better keep the bottle share aspect.

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Has it occured to you that they don't want 10,000 people clogging up their property? They'll sell it all either way, and if the lack of bottle sharing is enough to deter someone then maybe they're on to something.

Has it occured to you that they don't want 10,000 people clogging up their property? They'll sell it all either way, and if the lack of bottle sharing is enough to deter someone then maybe they're on to something.

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If they didn't want 10k people then they would only sell tickets at the brewpub or not sell tickets at all (See Hunahpu)

Selling them online means:

They want people from across the country to attend
They want the hype to remain as high as possible
They want tickets being sold on the secondary market

I do think they should help hook up the locals, because we are the repeat customer nut jobs, who eat at the pub and take care of our servers and bartenders.

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In a sense yes they should help locals out a bit however, the guy that put aside the extra money for a how-ever-many-hour drive to and from FFF deserves that beer the same if not more than someone that can mosey on down the street for it at leisure.

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Just curious...I see the bottle limit is per person this year and not per ticket. Yet you can buy 2 tickets per person... I'm wondering why, besides the extra pour of DL and the warm fuzzy feeling of adding more to charity, I would want to buy more than one ticket if it won't get me any more bottles?
Yes, I understand getting 2 tickets if you're getting one for someone else. But let's say you're coming alone...all another ticket gets you is another pour of Dark Lord, not extra bottles. Certainly not worth an additional $15.

Edit: Ok, so I went back and re-read and see I was reading last years info (I couldn't get tickets last year). So was the bottle limit per person last year? I thought I saw somewhere in this thread that it was 4 bottles per ticket last year...yet it says it was per person on DLD.com.
Forgive me...massive amounts of cold medicine...I'm a little fuzzy...

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Edit: Ok, so I went back and re-read and see I was reading last years info (I couldn't get tickets last year). So was the bottle limit per person last year? I thought I saw somewhere in this thread that it was 4 bottles per ticket last year...yet it says it was per person on DLD.com.
Forgive me...massive amounts of cold medicine...I'm a little fuzzy...

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Not sure it matters if it is classified as 'per ticket' or 'per person' as it would be difficult logistically for FFF to track each and every person coming through the line trying to get their allocation. Certainly there will be people (as happened last year) who go through the line, get their allocation, go out to their car, put the bottles away, and then get back in line in accordance with their other ticket (be it in the same Group, or at a later time with another Group - i.e., buy a ticket for Group A and Group B or C, get allocation with both Groups). Since getting Dark Lord in as many hands as possible is the goal of the event, this practice is likely frowned upon, but I'm not sure to what extent FFF will be policing the line to ensure each person gets only their allocation, and not a bottle more.

I love how people complain that 3F is doing what they want with their event about a thread on an internet forum. If you disagree with their choices threads so much then don't go read them. Im tired of beek geeks bullies thinking they run these breweries forums. Better yet if you have all these great ideas, open a brewery, have an event and show them up start a blog discussing the morality of starting honest threads concerning ways you might choose to spend your time and money. Oh wait it's way easier to just sit on forums and complain.

Just buy as many tickets as you want, and then bring friends who appreciate beer, yet know nothing about DL. Have them stand in line with you, enjoy various brews while in line, talk about sports, what have you. Give each of your friends a ticket, along with $60. Multiple tickets are no longer an issue.

Just buy as many tickets as you want, and then bring friends who appreciate beer, yet know nothing about DL. Have them stand in line with you, enjoy various brews while in line, talk about sports, what have you. Give each of your friends a ticket, along with $60. Multiple tickets are no longer an issue.

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It's better than the other problems associated with these types of releases. Plus, the odds of landing as many tickets as you want are not good... they're not good even if "all the tickets you want = 1"

It's better than the other problems associated with these types of releases. Plus, the odds of landing as many tickets as you want are not good... they're not good even if "all the tickets you want = 1"

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Well think about it this way... There are 6000 tickets. Let's assume the worst, and cuart that number in half (anticipating everyone trying to buy 2 tickets at once, instead of 1 at a time). That means there are 3000 unique people (or less, i.e.: me) that can purchase tickets. That means, in order for someone to get tickets, they need a connection that is at least as good as the top 2999 people who are trying to purchase tickets. In my case, I simply need to have a connection on two computers, both which are better than the top 2998 people. I also need to have very fast fingers, but that's not an issue.

Given that, I'd say Dark Lord tickets are relatively simple to get. Just takes the right kind of equipment.

Well think about it this way... There are 6000 tickets. Let's assume the worst, and cuart that number in half (anticipating everyone trying to buy 2 tickets at once, instead of 1 at a time). That means there are 3000 unique people (or less, i.e.: me) that can purchase tickets. That means, in order for someone to get tickets, they need a connection that is at least as good as the top 2999 people who are trying to purchase tickets. In my case, I simply need to have a connection on two computers, both which are better than the top 2998 people. I also need to have very fast fingers, but that's not an issue.

Given that, I'd say Dark Lord tickets are relatively simple to get. Just takes the right kind of equipment.

Based on your replies in this thread and your ISOFT, I can only conclude one or all of the following is true;
1. You're 12
2. You're an excellent troll.
3. You're being intentionally oblivious.

Last year, the DLD Ticket thread was hundreds of replies long, filled with people that were shut out from getting tickets. I'm willing to bet none of it had to do with equipment, rather thousands of people creating so much traffic that your chances at acquiring DLD tickets are at best, a crapshoot.

It appears as if we all should attempt to use the worst connection possible, they seem to be the only ones who get tickets... Or perhaps since they're astounded that they got tickets, given they had bad purchasing circumstances, they are the only ones who speak up. 3000 is a big number.

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BeerGeeks created this great beer pilgrimage of the last 6 to 8 years... so go drink your Miller lite and piss off.

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seriously ? read the post again mr. sith lord, uhm, i'm on your team. i was referring back to plinythefarter's silly initial rant which included his statement about hating beeK geeks. get it now ? sheesh. not as funny if you have to explain it.

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I have been going to DLD since its inception. Yes, the ticket sales system is horrible now but local authority pressure warranted it. It was much better when the random 2AM Tweet announced ticket sales. From '08 to '09 the attendance went from 4-5K to almost 10K. This was unprecedented and a complete nightmare for most people.
Luckily I live 2 minutes from the brewery and I have never had a problem securing a spot in line...6 AM arrival usually. I have been fortunate to secure tickets to the last 2 DLDs and the XV party.
Things have changed, this is true. What is definately better is the "session" system. I can almost guarantee you will not wait longer than an hour to buy DL once in line, except maybe for the first session.
You can still "party" at your parking spot, but I recommend getting there early...spots are limited and quite pricy...$25 and up. All parking is on adjacent private property and "tailgating" is up to the owner's discretion. Bottom line...it is just not what it used to be. This is not FFF fault by any means, Munster Police are rough, and by rights! Too many drunken idoits ruined it for the rest of us.
Good luck Sat...it is only about the beer now, and MAYBE the bands...if metal is your thing.

Well think about it this way... There are 6000 tickets. Let's assume the worst, and cuart that number in half (anticipating everyone trying to buy 2 tickets at once, instead of 1 at a time). That means there are 3000 unique people (or less, i.e.: me) that can purchase tickets. That means, in order for someone to get tickets, they need a connection that is at least as good as the top 2999 people who are trying to purchase tickets. In my case, I simply need to have a connection on two computers, both which are better than the top 2998 people. I also need to have very fast fingers, but that's not an issue.

Given that, I'd say Dark Lord tickets are relatively simple to get. Just takes the right kind of equipment.