First and foremost, the 'Black Hawks' are properly spelled 'Blackhawks'.

Now onto this, in respect to 2K's hockey series the one thing that I've liked about it is, the fact of the indepth side of the franchise mode. It's complex as it should be with Restricted Free Agents. That said, this rebuilt from the ground up 2k9 looks like it belongs on the Sega Dreamcast. EA's series is by far the closest thing to realistic hockey put on a console. While it's not dead on, it's close. This is coming from an ice hockey player. Not some slob who's never played an official game in his life.

After looking through the stats of most teams, I feel that 2K9 is maybe 50% correct. It seems like they went for fan favoritea and big trades instead of accurately portraying the players themselves. I mean seriously, Marleau and Cheechoo below Michalek? Not hardly. I don't know where they are getting their stats but that is way wrong. J.R. is also WAY higher than 75.

This goes for many other teams as well. Some teams include Calgary, Dallas, Vancouver, and Buffalo. Look for yourself. Especially fans of those teams. You will see what I'm talking about.

First and foremost, the 'Black Hawks' are properly spelled 'Blackhawks'.

Now onto this, in respect to 2K's hockey series the one thing that I've liked about it is, the fact of the indepth side of the franchise mode. It's complex as it should be with Restricted Free Agents. That said, this rebuilt from the ground up 2k9 looks like it belongs on the Sega Dreamcast. EA's series is by far the closest thing to realistic hockey put on a console. While it's not dead on, it's close. This is coming from an ice hockey player. Not some slob who's never played an official game in his life.

So you thought you`d pop into a random thread about player ratings and post -like every other 12 year old EA fan how much better that game is......thanks cya..

As a hockey fan, player, and someone who prefers realistic hockey over arcade I take interest in reading about both products. Looking at the facts, the previews, the stats.

A classic move to refer to someone as a 12 year old fan boy. What year is this? 1999? Please refrain from such posts as the one below because had you read what I posted I gave 2k and their franchise merit for some of the better things they do.

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To summarize archibald3, learn to read and comprehend what is written before looking to label someone as an 'EA' fanboy. I actually owned both hockey games last year so I to tend to think I know what I'm talking about since I've been playing these hockey games since their inception years back.

As a hockey fan, player, and someone who prefers realistic hockey over arcade I take interest in reading about both products. Looking at the facts, the previews, the stats.

A classic move to refer to someone as a 12 year old fan boy. What year is this? 1999? Please refrain from such posts as the one below because had you read what I posted I gave 2k and their franchise merit for some of the better things they do.

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To summarize archibald3, learn to read and comprehend what is written before looking to label someone as an 'EA' fanboy. I actually owned both hockey games last year so I to tend to think I know what I'm talking about since I've been playing these hockey games since their inception years back.

Good day sir.

Jumping into a thread on player ratings on a 2k board to say you think EA`s game is better is being a troll and off-topic..
Good day sir..

Yes, Sidney is the best player on the penguins, if you go by points alone, this past season, the guy was injured a few months, so no he didn't have as many points as Malkin, but in the playoffs when it really mattered Sidney was awesome, especially in the final series. While Malkin was admittedly tired, hell he looked asleep half of the final series. You can argue all day who is better Ovechkin or Crosby, Ovechkin is a better goal scorer, but Crosby is better in other areas. So, I agree to a point about Ovechkin, but as an overall player, Crosby is better. Also, saying he'll never hit 65 goals is pretty lame considering the guy is still a kid- he's only 21... how many people had better rookie seasons? I'm not saying he's the next Gretzky or anything or even Lemieux, but he's pretty good for a guy his age.

how is Crosby a 99? he didnt even play that well although he was injured, hes good but not THAT good, he should be about the same as Ovechkin, 97 overall. if anyone should of been higher, it should of been Marc Andre Fleury!

I don't understand why you girls get yer panties in a bunch over some ratings!!! If I remember correctly, 2k has an "edit player" feature that will allow you to adjust the ratings accordingly!! some people just like to make a mountain out of a mole-hill

thats stupid that crosby is a 99.and im not just saying that cause i dont like him.basicly what their saying is that crosby is so good a hockey it is impossible to be better and also since hes a 99 that means he'll never improve.what a joke.

I will say this about NHL 2k9, I'm disappointed at the rosters alittle bit!! I'm a Bruins fan and there are some missing players from their roster!! I thought a player was included in the roster if he played atleast 1 game that year and the Bruins are missing 3 from their roster...(1. Vladimir Sobotka, (2. Matt Hunwick and (3. Tuukka Rask.
Sobotka played in 48 games inc. the playoffs!! Hunwick skated in 13 games and Rask minded the nets in 4 games. None of them are listed on the roster!!! Unless the rosters posted weren't complete rosters. How disappointing!!!

Well, I went through every single roster posted for 2k9 and I noticed that there are ALOT of missing players!!! I found that each team averaged 3 plaers missing from their roster that should have been included!! A noticable deletion is Clarke MacArthur, LW for the Buffalo Sabres. I'm just hoping that these rosters are just incomplete and will be finalized before the games release!!!

some more mistakes like Derek Roy he is way better than a 83 he should be more like a 88 and Sedin's more than a 85 for sure in the 90's and Crosby i know hes a great player and all but no player in any NHL video game should be higher than a 97 and hes a 99 no way!!!!now some problems with the avs roster Svatos has some blazin speed and there is no way he is only a 87 Liles is a great passer and deserves better than 82 and one problem with the sharks why is Thornton almost faster than Cheechoo i know hes not faster but hes almost faster and i think thats a problem and Darren Helm is the fastest on the Wings team and his speed is totally off 70 for SPD and 65 for ACC thats just not right

As far as the mistakes in the players ratings...I guess we can use the "Edit Player" feature, I'm just concerned with the lack of depth in the rosters...I was hoping to not have to create a ton of players this year...as fun as it is to do, it gets to be a pain in the ass!!!

However, I also looked at EA's rosters and damn!!! they are even worse!!!! I'm not dissing EA, just stating a fact!!!

Actually this is a 2k series forum-so i know it seems strange but he can say good things about 2k on here...weird eh? So why dont you troll your way back to the EA forum? By the way the ratings are more accurate on 2k...no apology to EA neccessary Fishmonger.

@ Beltran15, so what exactly makes me a fanboy? The fact that I say how much I like a game on it's own board? If you are such a fan of NHL 09' then why don't you go there and spew your worthless garbage!! As far as i'm concerned, you are the "fanboy". You feel threatened by the fact that 2k has made improvements , so all you little kids out there who have a hard-on for EA games have to come to the 2k boards and spend all your life earning your 2,000+ posts? How pathetic!!!!!

I love how EA fanboys will say there NHL game is better which is funny becasue besides last year 2k hockey was the best rated hockey game for years running. Its the same with Madden the only reason 2k football is not around which is sad because just think only this year is the Madden tackling looking as good as 2k football does which is sad beacuse 2k is years old. Open your minds and stop picking sides. I PLAY BOTH 2K AND EA AND IM SORRY BUT BESIDES LAST YEAR 2K IS ALWAYS BETTER. And I think they will take that crown back this year.

"First and foremost, the 'Black Hawks' are properly spelled 'Blackhawks'.

Now onto this, in respect to 2K's hockey series the one thing that I've liked about it is, the fact of the indepth side of the franchise mode. It's complex as it should be with Restricted Free Agents. That said, this rebuilt from the ground up 2k9 looks like it belongs on the Sega Dreamcast. EA's series is by far the closest thing to realistic hockey put on a console. While it's not dead on, it's close. This is coming from an ice hockey player. Not some slob who's never played an official game in his life.

So you thought you`d pop into a random thread about player ratings and post -like every other 12 year old EA fan how much better that game is......thanks cya.."

Have you ever played hockey in a league? I have 08 was more realistic just because we go on the 2k forums doesn't mean were fanboys right now I think a a 2k fanboy cause you think it's so great compared to NHL

Since NASCAR 09 has had serious freezing issues this year, since Tiger Woods 09 has had freezing issues, and since the $100 Collector's Edition of my Madden 09 has gotten so bad with the freezing to the point of where I can't advance past the first game of the third season in my Franchise mode, I'm staying away from ALL EA games from now on. It's fu***ng ridiculous. EA's hockey might be the better game (I don't think it is), but I wonder if the people who buy it will actually be able to play the damned thing without it freezing all over them.

The three EA games I previously mentioned have frozen so badly that they have become unplayable for some people. And, don't expect any tech support from EA on THEIR OWN message boards, they run away from the problem. 2K it is for me, especially until EA can once again prove they can build a product that won't break on its first day.