The proteins you eat don't just get assimilated into tissue. Some are used for nucleotides (DNA/RNA), some for enzymes, some are converted into krebs intermediates, and some converted to cho or fats. The reverse on many of these can occur during fasting.

A more important question should be: How do ensure that an optimal amount of the proteins I am eating are being assimilated into skeletal muscle tissue?

It's absorbed by the small intestine... you know how much surface area that is? It all depends on what kind of protein your taking in and how "long it takes" to absorb. Your likely going to utilize most of what you throw at your body between your mouth and your ass. I wouldn't worry about it.

But... the better spaced apart, the more stable your blood amino acids levels will be... Thus giving you a nice steady anabolic environment. Taking it all down in one sitting is not going to help you much. If your having problems with mealtime, I would suggest a couple casein shakes throughout the day, say... one when you wake, one in the evening, and even one before bed... (50-80g each, depending on your macro goals).

It's absorbed by the small intestine... you know how much surface area that is? It all depends on what kind of protein your taking in and how "long it takes" to absorb. Your likely going to utilize most of what you throw at your body between your mouth and your ass. I wouldn't worry about it.

But... the better spaced apart, the more stable your blood amino acids levels will be... Thus giving you a nice steady anabolic environment. Taking it all down in one sitting is not going to help you much. If your having problems with mealtime, I would suggest a couple casein shakes throughout the day, say... one when you wake, one in the evening, and even one before bed... (50-80g each, depending on your macro goals).

Did you read the article posted above? From the research, it doesn't seem very likely that 200g of protein split over 6 vs. 2 meals makes much of a difference in protein synthesis rates.

I'm referring to type of protein... Ex, whey, casein, egg.... How fast it's digested and absorbed by the body. I was actually supporting the article with my statement of the surface are of the intestines "being able" to absorb how ever much (quantity) you throw at it.

However, I'm still not convinced that one article (with a 14 day period, done on females) has any relevance to area being discussed.

My approach is 6 meals vs 2... complete that is, carbs, proteins, fats, etc... just seems to be the more logical choice if you ask me. This is a tried and true method with supporting evidence of stable blood sugar levels, stable blood nitrogen levels, etc...

I would like to see the scientific evidence behind this article if there is any... Not that I'm bashing what it is suggesting. I just feel that every ones digestive system works at different rates, one person may take 24 hours to fully digest a meal, while someone else may **** it out in 8 hours. Split meals has been established and accepted as the most ideal way to ingest your days nutrients for the most positive effectiveness.

Why do you think people that eat once a day in one sitting are mostly overweight, particularly in the visceral region.

What happens if you drink 400 mg of caffeine in one sitting... compared to 100mg 4x a day... It's just common sense. The metabolism plays a large role with anything we throw in our body. Why would protein be any different?

I was suggesting the casein BTW... because of prolonged absorption rates.

I'd like to see a follow up study with 200grams of whey in one sitting once a day... vs. 50 mg of casein 4x a day... That would be interesting.

I'm referring to type of protein... Ex, whey, casein, egg.... How fast it's digested and absorbed by the body. I was actually supporting the article with my statement of the surface are of the intestines "being able" to absorb how ever much (quantity) you throw at it.

However, I'm still not convinced that one article (with a 14 day period, done on females) has any relevance to area being discussed.

My approach is 6 meals vs 2... complete that is, carbs, proteins, fats, etc... just seems to be the more logical choice if you ask me. This is a tried and true method with supporting evidence of stable blood sugar levels, stable blood nitrogen levels, etc...

I would like to see the scientific evidence behind this article if there is any... Not that I'm bashing what it is suggesting. I just feel that every ones digestive system works at different rates, one person may take 24 hours to fully digest a meal, while someone else may **** it out in 8 hours. Split meals has been established and accepted as the most ideal way to ingest your days nutrients for the most positive effectiveness.

Why do you think people that eat once a day in one sitting are mostly overweight, particularly in the visceral region.

What happens if you drink 400 mg of caffeine in one sitting... compared to 100mg 4x a day... It's just common sense. The metabolism plays a large role with anything we throw in our body. Why would protein be any different?

I was suggesting the casein BTW... because of prolonged absorption rates.

I'd like to see a follow up study with 200grams of whey in one sitting once a day... vs. 50 mg of casein 4x a day... That would be interesting.

X2 ^^^^^^^^^

Originally Posted by Level9Germ

Common bro why would u take d Bol just take plain steroids if ur gonna do it since first place

I'm referring to type of protein... Ex, whey, casein, egg.... How fast it's digested and absorbed by the body. I was actually supporting the article with my statement of the surface are of the intestines "being able" to absorb how ever much (quantity) you throw at it.

However, I'm still not convinced that one article (with a 14 day period, done on females) has any relevance to area being discussed.

My approach is 6 meals vs 2... complete that is, carbs, proteins, fats, etc... just seems to be the more logical choice if you ask me. This is a tried and true method with supporting evidence of stable blood sugar levels, stable blood nitrogen levels, etc...

I would like to see the scientific evidence behind this article if there is any... Not that I'm bashing what it is suggesting. I just feel that every ones digestive system works at different rates, one person may take 24 hours to fully digest a meal, while someone else may **** it out in 8 hours. Split meals has been established and accepted as the most ideal way to ingest your days nutrients for the most positive effectiveness.

Why do you think people that eat once a day in one sitting are mostly overweight, particularly in the visceral region.

What happens if you drink 400 mg of caffeine in one sitting... compared to 100mg 4x a day... It's just common sense. The metabolism plays a large role with anything we throw in our body. Why would protein be any different?

I was suggesting the casein BTW... because of prolonged absorption rates.

I'd like to see a follow up study with 200grams of whey in one sitting once a day... vs. 50 mg of casein 4x a day... That would be interesting.

^ This make sense

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My approach is 6 meals vs 2... complete that is, carbs, proteins, fats, etc... just seems to be the more logical choice

just because something seems more logical, doesnt make it true. Example: Eating every two hours to stoke your metabolism seems logical but just isnt true

Originally Posted by IronBusta

I would like to see the scientific evidence behind this article if there is any...

I didnt read the article by aragon so not sure what he said or what claims he made but there is plenty of evidence that supports the opposite of your claims that smaller meals multiple time are better than fewer yet larger meals

Originally Posted by IronBusta

Split meals has been established and accepted as the most ideal way to ingest your days nutrients for the most positive effectiveness.

nope

Originally Posted by IronBusta

Why do you think people that eat once a day in one sitting are mostly overweight, particularly in the visceral region.

I'm referring to type of protein... Ex, whey, casein, egg.... How fast it's digested and absorbed by the body. I was actually supporting the article with my statement of the surface are of the intestines "being able" to absorb how ever much (quantity) you throw at it.

However, I'm still not convinced that one article (with a 14 day period, done on females) has any relevance to area being discussed.

My approach is 6 meals vs 2... complete that is, carbs, proteins, fats, etc... just seems to be the more logical choice if you ask me. This is a tried and true method with supporting evidence of stable blood sugar levels, stable blood nitrogen levels, etc...

I would like to see the scientific evidence behind this article if there is any... Not that I'm bashing what it is suggesting. I just feel that every ones digestive system works at different rates, one person may take 24 hours to fully digest a meal, while someone else may **** it out in 8 hours. Split meals has been established and accepted as the most ideal way to ingest your days nutrients for the most positive effectiveness.

Why do you think people that eat once a day in one sitting are mostly overweight, particularly in the visceral region.

Anecdotal evidence. You can also look at studies done in intermittent fasting subjects, who show similar and sometimes greater weight loss and better body compositions.
PMID: 20921964Similar or greater insulin sensitivity: 16051710, 19776143

Positive adaptations in GH and body comp in trained men with single meal consumption: 18617733

Not to mention, there's a decent amount of research regarding the anti-cancer, anti-aging, heart protective and neuroprotective effects of intermittent fasting, 17374948, 15802901, 10878654, 15741046

And one study showing the consumption of one meal has little effect on performance in Judo: 19910805Though, I would think a period of acclimiation would be needed when switching from multiple feedings to IF.

What happens if you drink 400 mg of caffeine in one sitting... compared to 100mg 4x a day... It's just common sense. The metabolism plays a large role with anything we throw in our body. Why would protein be any different?

I see the analogy you are trying to make; however, caffeine is not stored in the body tissues like amino acids, glucose, or fatty acids are. Caffeine is an alkaloid that is metabolized and excreted.

I was suggesting the casein BTW... because of prolonged absorption rates.

I'd like to see a follow up study with 200grams of whey in one sitting once a day... vs. 50 mg of casein 4x a day... That would be interesting.

Splanchnic and leg substrate exchange after ingestion of a natural mixed meal in humans.

It is concluded that in human subjects, 1) the absorption of a natural mixed meal is still incomplete at 5 h after ingestion; 2) HGP is only marginally and tardily inhibited; 3) splanchnic and peripheral tissues contribute to the disposal of meal carbohydrate to approximately the same extent; 4) the splanchnic area transfers &gt;30% of the ingested proteins to the systemic circulation; and 5) after meal ingestion, skeletal muscle takes up BCAA to replenish muscle protein stores.

PMID:10331398

Protein feeding pattern does not affect protein retention in young women

No significant effects of the protein feeding pattern were detected on either whole-body protein turnover [5.5 +/- 0.2 vs. 6.1 +/- 0.3 g protein/(kg fat-free mass. d) for spread and pulse pattern, respectively] or whole-body protein synthesis and protein breakdown. Thus, in young women, these protein feeding patterns did not have significantly different effects on protein retention.

No differences in body weight were observed between the IF and SD groups. Peripheral glucose uptake and hepatic insulin sensitivity during the clamp did not significantly differ between the IF and SD groups. Likewise, lipolysis and proteolysis were not different between the IF and SD groups. IF decreased resting energy expenditure. IF had no effect on the phosphorylation of AKT but significantly increased the phosphorylation of glycogen synthase kinase. Phosphorylation of mTOR was significantly lower after IF than after the SD.

PMID:19776143

(101 g protein in a 4-hour window, there was no difference in preservation of lean mass and muscle protein between if and standard diet groups)

I'm referring to type of protein... Ex, whey, casein, egg.... How fast it's digested and absorbed by the body. I was actually supporting the article with my statement of the surface are of the intestines "being able" to absorb how ever much (quantity) you throw at it.

However, I'm still not convinced that one article (with a 14 day period, done on females) has any relevance to area being discussed.

My approach is 6 meals vs 2... complete that is, carbs, proteins, fats, etc... just seems to be the more logical choice if you ask me. This is a tried and true method with supporting evidence of stable blood sugar levels, stable blood nitrogen levels, etc...

I would like to see the scientific evidence behind this article if there is any... Not that I'm bashing what it is suggesting. I just feel that every ones digestive system works at different rates, one person may take 24 hours to fully digest a meal, while someone else may **** it out in 8 hours. Split meals has been established and accepted as the most ideal way to ingest your days nutrients for the most positive effectiveness.

Why do you think people that eat once a day in one sitting are mostly overweight, particularly in the visceral region.

What happens if you drink 400 mg of caffeine in one sitting... compared to 100mg 4x a day... It's just common sense. The metabolism plays a large role with anything we throw in our body. Why would protein be any different?

I was suggesting the casein BTW... because of prolonged absorption rates.

I'd like to see a follow up study with 200grams of whey in one sitting once a day... vs. 50 mg of casein 4x a day... That would be interesting.

the bold statements are saying that a fasted method of dieting and the warrior diet are what? i know tons of people who have great success using both types....

Okay, I see the facts now... Like I said, I wasn't completely bashing the article. I just feel that everyone is different in regards to individual metabolism and digestion. I'm not one to get too scientific, thus the reason I'm a business major and not science. But I'm still not convinced that taking in 200 grams in one window is better than spacing it apart. It may be bro-science, but again... not all trials and studies are done correctly either. I mean, research creatine and try to figure out what supposedly work more effectively.... CEE vs Mono vs Citrate vs Crea(*), have fun figuring that one out. (it seems that genetic differences play too much of a role to say either or, what works for some may not work for others). For me, I used to eat 2 meals a day and a large protein shake after my session and hated it, felt bloated all the time, gained dirty weight, crashes... thus the reason I switched to 6 meals E4H. 6 Meals seems to work for me based on my personal goals... Reason may be because of my schedule, high cardio, etc.. who knows....

I'm not a Nutritionist or a Scientist... So I don't know everything... It was just my two cents on what has been beneficial to me personally. As far as scientific figures, I'd rather just stay out of. So... With that said.

From what I just learned our body can absorb it all at once... So take whatever is convenient. <- Aimed at the original post.

I know I've sometimes eaten two meals a day within a 5-6 hour window, then fasted the rest of the time. Seems to allow thyroid, leptin, and other hormones such as insulin to improve. The long break gives the body time to get hormones in order IMHO.

I also add about 3 small doses of leucine during the fasting periods, and I don't count that as breaking the fast, as there is almost no digestion.

ive tried all kinds of eating combinations, meal timings, food percentages, fasted, non fasted, warrior, and though i train fasted with purple wraath intra ive concluded that as long as my overall calorie goal is met by the end of the day then im good to go..