---LG Natadrol + AppNut HGHUp Cut Log ---

Discontinuing HGHUp today. Since I began it I had very mild digestive problems that have recently gotten terrible. (didnt pay much attn to it, always have messed up digestion). I didnt take it yesterday and felt better, and today I feel alright. It definitely caused my sleep issues (1.5 weeks of horrible insomnia, non restful sleep) because after switching to day dosage instead of all at night I was fine. But once I began the day dose the digestive problems got bad.

I think the formula is very solid, but I dont think its for me.

Ditto on the sleep problems with hghup, i'm gonna switch to day dosage and see how that goes before I bail out. Thanks

Discontinuing HGHUp today. Since I began it I had very mild digestive problems that have recently gotten terrible. (didnt pay much attn to it, always have messed up digestion). I didnt take it yesterday and felt better, and today I feel alright. It definitely caused my sleep issues (1.5 weeks of horrible insomnia, non restful sleep) because after switching to day dosage instead of all at night I was fine. But once I began the day dose the digestive problems got bad.

I think the formula is very solid, but I dont think its for me.

Thank you for your honest feedback on HGHup♂. If you have low dopamine levels then it have opposite effects re sleep and cause the insomnia.

Originally Posted by Craigmatthew

Also perhpas look into GHenerate if you are looking towards another GH type product.

Just a note that because GHenerate is a "similar" product to HGHup♂ you may experience the insomnia on it as well.

Originally Posted by pigpen75

Ditto on the sleep problems with hghup, i'm gonna switch to day dosage and see how that goes before I bail out. Thanks

Impressions:
Good day today, digestive **** seems to be over. Got some fiber and got me back on track . Everything in strength dept. seems spot on still, not like Im even cutting. Scale weight was 216 this morning, finally dropped a bit. Everything in the mirror looks better everyday, gonna go carb up tonight. My joints are crispy right now, only side I can see, even the pissing constantly has subsided some. My elbow is wicked dry feeling, as well as my knees.

Yeah it is hectic on the other forum man, you shoudl try being a rep! Man it's rough!

I was one, well technically. I ran a clothing company that was exclusive to BB.com and they stomped all over us. They didnt send the drop ship order requests, most that got through were weeks or months late. They were late on payment (3 months behind). We were doing close to 250 orders a month, and they were making excellent $$ on our rates, and decided we werent doing it for them I guess. On our end we were never late, and customers were extremely satisfied with the quality/price of the product. We had to threaten legal action, then we got our check. In the three months that we put them on credit hold, I figure we lost out on about 600-700 orders. So, I dont like them no more.

Originally Posted by Guejsn

Thank you for your honest feedback on HGHup♂. If you have low dopamine levels then it have opposite effects re sleep and cause the insomnia.

Just a note that because GHenerate is a "similar" product to HGHup♂ you may experience the insomnia on it as well.

Decided tomorrow is going to be the end of Natadrol and beginning of pct. Just finished my second bottle, and decided I want to keep the third (and 4th ) for when Im bulking later this year. Also, Im going to be moving in around 5 weeks (just found out today we got the house, going out next tues to handle papers) and I need to be done with everything as I wont have much time to manage all the supps. So, tomorrow Ill do a final on Natadrol, and then begin Formadrol+Lean Xtreme.

PCT will be four weeks, and I will most likely keep on cutting past PCT.... Today is actually end of week 9 since starting the cut.

Vascularity: 9. Chest veins never more apparent, vascularity in upper arms also improved. Hardness: 9. From the first week forward, muscle density seemed very much improved, especially in arms/chest. Everything seemed to pop much better as well.Fat Loss: 9. Worked better than any burner Ive tried as it helped me keep up with intense workouts, heavy lifts. Seems like lower belly fat is softer than ever, and ready to disappear anytime now..Strength: 10. Never been this strong on a cut, ever. Didnt lose any strength on any lift (minus deads, but im scaling back awhile), and actually improved on smaller muscle group lifts (like BB curls, OH tri press)Recovery: 8. Great. Felt like in between set recovery was slightly improved, however day to day soreness and readiness to lift improved.Sleep: 8. Great, after taking HGHUP out of the picture. Libido: 11. My libido was effed up towards the end as I was afraid I was gonna **** everywhere But before that it was like I was 16. Libido was great, but PERFORMANCE was insane. Lets just say the wife got tired out before I did, and I had to force myself to finish, every night. It was a night and day difference I have never experienced before. Appetite: 6. For the purpose of a cut, low score. Im starving, where I normally would be fine.

thanks! we got screwed on our first place, bought on the downside of the bubble and it tanked even more. we're pretty upside down, but the bank worked with us, got it to a reasonable payment after the mod, and now we can rent it out and break even. we were smart and went 30 yr fixed, but the housing market here has just nosedived to about 50% of what we bought for.

i got my new crib in vegas for 115k, buying in CASH. its huge, 2600 sq ft, and about two blocks away from Golds :P first time ive been happy in about 3 years (dead srs). my job was total ****, had absolutely no extra cash (unless it was around tax time), and my wife's job was also ****. plus my dad was diagnosed with RA last year, and because we worked together, I got the pleasure of watching him get worse and worse everyday until the docs figured his meds out.

now we (me and wife) and my ma and pa are moving to Vegas at the same time (we got two houses about three blocks from each other), Ive got about 10k extra in the bank to buy furniture, etc. and I can finally get to planning on having me a baby boy. life turns around sometimes i guess. so thanks again :P

thanks! we got screwed on our first place, bought on the downside of the bubble and it tanked even more. we're pretty upside down, but the bank worked with us, got it to a reasonable payment after the mod, and now we can rent it out and break even. we were smart and went 30 yr fixed, but the housing market here has just nosedived to about 50% of what we bought for.

i got my new crib in vegas for 115k, buying in CASH. its huge, 2600 sq ft, and about two blocks away from Golds :P first time ive been happy in about 3 years (dead srs). my job was total ****, had absolutely no extra cash (unless it was around tax time), and my wife's job was also ****. plus my dad was diagnosed with RA last year, and because we worked together, I got the pleasure of watching him get worse and worse everyday until the docs figured his meds out.

now we (me and wife) and my ma and pa are moving to Vegas at the same time (we got two houses about three blocks from each other), Ive got about 10k extra in the bank to buy furniture, etc. and I can finally get to planning on having me a baby boy. life turns around sometimes i guess. so thanks again :P

Congrats on the house and it sounds like8 weeks would be sick on Natadrol, VERY detailed review on Natadrol, sounds like a keeper!!

Vascularity: 9. Chest veins never more apparent, vascularity in upper arms also improved. Hardness: 9. From the first week forward, muscle density seemed very much improved, especially in arms/chest. Everything seemed to pop much better as well.Fat Loss: 9. Worked better than any burner Ive tried as it helped me keep up with intense workouts, heavy lifts. Seems like lower belly fat is softer than ever, and ready to disappear anytime now..Strength: 10. Never been this strong on a cut, ever. Didnt lose any strength on any lift (minus deads, but im scaling back awhile), and actually improved on smaller muscle group lifts (like BB curls, OH tri press)Recovery: 8. Great. Felt like in between set recovery was slightly improved, however day to day soreness and readiness to lift improved.Sleep: 8. Great, after taking HGHUP out of the picture. Libido: 11. My libido was effed up towards the end as I was afraid I was gonna **** everywhere But before that it was like I was 16. Libido was great, but PERFORMANCE was insane. Lets just say the wife got tired out before I did, and I had to force myself to finish, every night. It was a night and day difference I have never experienced before. Appetite: 6. For the purpose of a cut, low score. Im starving, where I normally would be fine.

Impressions:
Day two of PCT, everything is great. Woke up with raging wood, took Formadrol, more raging wood. I got a free bottle of T-911, popped one of those bad boys before lifting, gave me a good energy, seemed like the pump was really good. Feelin good and wide, lat spread looks way bigger as the waist gets littler. My anniversary is on Thursday, gonna have a big cheat @ PF changs (got about 80 in gift cards :P). My refeeds have all been clean for quite a while, so a good dose of spicy chicken is in order.

PF changs is dank, bro. Last time I got the mongolian beef....oh man its was de-freaking-licious!

we're gonna get wayyyyy too much food for two. changs spicy chicken, mongo beef, lettuce wrap, and whatever the hell else looks awesome. 80 bucks will go pretty far, theyve got a meal for two deal for 40 bucks, one appetizer two entrees +soup/dessert. still gonna keep it to just food, no dessert - but im gonna destroy. ill gain a whole pound of water and itll be like nothing happened two days later - some reason chinese doesnt stick to my bones.

i think PF Changs just goes in and out without sticking due to its awesomeness. i lost weight last time i ate there, and looked filled out (in a good way) the next day like no other. honestly if you get just the chicken/beef and some brown rice its not such a bad cheat/refeed as long as you dont go ape****.

Man, idk wtf is wrong with me lately. Had about three days that were awesome with no GI issues, and then today was the nuclear holocaust. The only thing that changed is I pounded some olive oil with my chicken yesterday, and then in the afternoon had issues. Ive eliminated everything else (supps/food/water intake) that could be the cause. I think im getting enough fiber as well. Getting sick of the GI issues, gotta figure it out.

Impressions:
GI issues still. Last two-three days were awesome, then I added back in some olive oil yesterday and everything went to **** (yes pun). So Im pulling out the EVOO and Im gonna pick up some psyllium for some extra fiber to see if it helps. Apparently my body hates keto.

Anyways, the Formadrol feels like Im still on Natadrol, which is great. Strength is about the same, weight was down to 215 this morning. I think I look leaner every day now, but these damn GI issues are bloating me up some. On a side note, I love the T-911 before lifting, great pump and energy, but it makes my mouth numb. I looked around and others are saying the same thing, but its weird.

Impressions:
GI **** is OVER!!! I believe I am now allergic to peanut butter/peanuts however, but **** it id rather be cool than have the threat of mudbutt. Now im back on track and feel great. DInner last night was carb fiesta, ate about 3 cups of brown rice and some lettuce wraps and mongo beef. Didnt get stuffed, but it was awesome.

Formadrol is the ****. Even better libido, morning wood, random wood, sex drive etc on this stuff. The dryness is over since getting off ND, joints feel better. VEry oily skin though, but I never breakout so no issues there. T-911 is fun too, helps with the workout.

Got me 3 bottles of Sizeon V2 in the deal of a lifetime from the three letter store, so I got a ton of intra now. Worked out to 13 dollars a bottle, I wish I had a couple hundred and I wouldve bought them out.

Scale weight still @ 214 even after PF Changs... cheating doesnt do **** to me anymore on keto, which is awesome. Muscles look full and lean, and theres just a little fat left to go on my lower belly and then the big cuts will start poppin out. Cant wait.

Impressions:
Felt good today, minus some GI stuff. Thought it was over, guess not. If its not solved by Monday might drop the Lean Xtreme (im sensitive to forskolin, usually not this bad though). Also, Ive got a pulled muscle in my left side oblique/ab area and its kicking my ass.

Nice updates man, Formadrol Extreme is an excellent product man, I have really enjoyed it the last 2 times used.

I have not used it for CPT yet, but rather solo as a test booster, which always seems to lean me up and really helps my libido.

yeah libido is much higher on Forma than ND. Seems to be working well enough, water weight is all over the place though. Seems like I fluctuate 2-3lbs a day on it whereas ND was pretty steady.

BTW, got some psyllium and I think the GI problems are correcting now. Sucks because I pulled something in my left side oblique/abs and I cant tell if my gut is cool or what. Making noises like crazy, but im much more regular feeling now.
Damn keto is like a science project.

Impressions:
Feelin good, great pump with T911. Formadrol has my libido off the chain, new favorite PCT product for sure. Scale weight a hair under 214, body fat (impedance measured) was at 10.1%. Top four abs looking awesome, vascularity appearing in lats, obliques, upper abs, quads. Chest vascularity is absolutely insane right now. Measurements other than hips/waist holding pretty steady, but gettin leaner. I figure about 4 more weeks and Ill be around 8.5-9%.