Comments on: Caps GM McPhee: “I could never take [Luongo’s] contract”http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2013/02/04/caps-gm-mcphee-i-could-never-take-luongos-contract/
ProHockeyTalk on NBCSports.comFri, 09 Dec 2016 15:40:43 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: huffstethttp://nhl.nbcsports.com/2013/02/04/caps-gm-mcphee-i-could-never-take-luongos-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-137018
Sun, 10 Feb 2013 04:38:03 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1032445#comment-137018Yeah, I agree if they work a deal for a goalie it will 100% be for Schneider….uongo deal is a disaster that no team is going to take on
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Sun, 10 Feb 2013 04:32:12 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1032445#comment-137017Trading for Luongo would be awful. He’s overrated and his contract is terrible…..I would potentially never watch another caps game if they traded for him.

The Varlamov trade was great…..he didn’t want to play for washington and he got a first round pick from a mediocre team for him.

Signing Jagr wasn’t the problem….Jagr was the problem.

He couldn’t have traded any of the players you mentioned and how can you justify re-signing Wideman or Vokoun. Vokoun wouldn’t have come back, Wideman was very overpaid. Not sure semin or Fleischman would have come back either, so basically he didn’t re-sign Hannan.

That being said-Mcphee makes great moves and terrible moves and seems to keep changing his direction (Go all offense in free agency one year then all grinders the following). No idea why he signed Poti twice, Hamerlik signing was awful (Not sure if he ever plans on bringing in a solid stay at home D-man) and not sure how you can let Semin walk without replacing his scoring (Not sure if he was banking on a lockout and was planning on saving the $6 million plus in cap that they have left for next seasons stronger free agent class). The worst move he’s made recently is getting rid of a coach with the best active winning percentage.

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Tue, 05 Feb 2013 02:32:33 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1032445#comment-134772Very interesting point. I’m not sure who the Canucks would give up. Keith Ballard seems like an obvious candidate. He’s struggled majorly in the past but has been playing really well lately. He skates and moves the puck really well but he can also be physical and fight occasionally even though he isn’t that big. His defensive play has improved a lot too. If Washington is willing to take a gamble on him I think they could easily see Ballard return to being the player he was a few years ago when Van traded for him. Mason Raymond could also be a possibility. With the emergence of Zack Kassian (which in turn shifts Burrows to the second line) Raymond becomes expendable when we’re healthy. Of course, we most certainly are not healthy. Kesler is close (maybe) but Booth is still a ways away. Until then they definitely won’t part with Raymond (and he still has value as insurance even when we are healthy).

In either case though, I’m not sure how a trade would work in a more general sense. I really don’t see them making a trade now that makes their team worse in the short term (even if it helps in the long term). So a deal for prospects/draft picks is unlikely. It is very questionable whether we can afford to add any salary long term though. (They’re going to need to move Ballard and let Raymond go as it is after this year). So for a deal to happen I would think we would need a player who can help us now but also has a very manageable cap hit going forward.

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Tue, 05 Feb 2013 01:40:59 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1032445#comment-134766$9.5m cap hit for Ov over the next 8 years or $5.3 cap hit for Luongo over the next 9 years. For an added bonus, we’ll throw in a better chance at winning the SC. Do the math Mr. McPhee.
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Tue, 05 Feb 2013 01:02:58 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1032445#comment-134757GMGM needs to go he has ruined this team Should have never let Semin go Now they have no second line threat. Johanson can go hasn’t helped This team at all
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Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:57:56 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1032445#comment-134721Forsberg hasn’t played a game in the NHL.

Ribiero was a good trade, but that was for Eakin as well, not just a draft pick.

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Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:37:48 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1032445#comment-134717So in other words McPhee is calling Gillis an idiot for signing Bobby Lou’s contract. Leaves you wondering what other Gm’s think about what he said even if they agree it’s not good for your team to be trash talking other Gms as you have to make deals with them at some point in time.
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Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:32:07 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1032445#comment-134672“Got rid” of Varlamov for Filip Forsberg (draft) and Mike Ribeiro (the other pick was sent to Dallas). I’d do that deal 100x/100 even if Varlamov has an above average career. Which is not yet certain, though I do like him.

I liked Hannan but there are 8 of him on any street corner.

Wideman is a less skilled nearly as expensive Mike Green. 5/$26.5m? Pass. And they needed him at the time so they could not dump him in a trade.

Semin..I agree should have been kept and I said as much at the time. Could be a $$ issue though. Cant afford everyone.

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Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:10:00 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1032445#comment-134654Gillis has already said he’d consider a deal for anyone if it makes the team better. As mentioned in the article, he’s not pursuing a Schneider trade, but if someone came to him with a significant offer, he’d at least think about it.
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Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:02:00 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1032445#comment-134648Oh it gets worse. Since the Capitals returned to anual playoff runs, Mcphee has made at least one trade every season. For all the guys we traded away, including important guys like David Steckel and Thomas Fleishman, we have gotten back nobody who stayed with the team past that season. The only 2 guys we traded for that stayed a Cap more than that one season in the last 7 are Chimera and Wideman. That means we let more guys walk for nothing that you think…
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Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:56:31 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1032445#comment-134644I agree with rsl22. Goalie is not the problem, at least not nuvi.the defensemen aren’t playing d and the forwards aren’t scoring. He might want to think about getting rid of karlson. He’s been on the ice for75% of the goals given up so far this year.
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Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:50:00 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1032445#comment-134642well stated, but lets give him credit for bringing back that #1 pick eric fehr though…full circle
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Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:47:09 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1032445#comment-134639They better be guilty of something because it highly unacceptable to lose player after player with zero in return! Mike Shanahan traded fat Albert away for a 7th rounder! Everybody knew he was going to get cut and the Skins still got some value out of that debacle! I’ve been a GM apologist far too long. But Leonsis is cheap and won’t do anything about GM and he has too much riding OVI to pull the trigger on a trade. This could be a long and painful journey with GM and Leonsis. I’m just crossing my fingers that Oates helps OVI successfully play his selfish brand of hockey until the Caps seem ready to move on.
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Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:42:36 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1032445#comment-134635I think we are ignoring this comment “We have not had one conversation about goaltending,” So they have had conversations, just not about Goaltending. So forget goalies, if there is a trade, who will it be?
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Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:27:06 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1032445#comment-134630Neuvirth had a tough first game, but since then has had a .912 S% and a 2.75 GAA. His record is pretty miserable because he has had very little help from his team. The team has the 5th most minor penalties and terrible PK.

What I’m trying to say is that Neuvirth is solid enough; the Caps are in more need of a defenseman and a scoring winger instead.

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Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:10:58 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1032445#comment-134625That whole “take on the contract and if you don’t like it just dump it next year” idea only works if the team gives up assets in relation to a one year rental and Vancouver is not giving Luongo away for nothing.
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Mon, 04 Feb 2013 17:56:02 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1032445#comment-134619Caps goaltending situation is ugly.

Can they afford not to have Luongo?

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Mon, 04 Feb 2013 17:52:13 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1032445#comment-134616I used to defend him, but I’m starting to realize if he thinks something is a good idea, it’s probably a bad idea, and vice versa.

He’s the 4th longest tenured GM. 2 of the 3 of ahead of him have Stanley Cups. The only time the Caps made it out of the second round was in his first year, 15 seasons ago, and I think a lot of that Cup run should be credited to Poile.

He signed Jagr.

In the last couple seasons, he let Semin, Vokoun, Wideman, Fleischman, and Hannan all go for nothing. He kept Neuvirth and Holtby and got rid of Varlamov.

It’s hard to imagine anything he has actually done right.

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Mon, 04 Feb 2013 17:45:04 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1032445#comment-134611This isn’t NHL ’13…
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Mon, 04 Feb 2013 17:38:01 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1032445#comment-134610because they are guilty of something…maybe not luongo – but i wouldnt be surprised if schneider isnt on the table for the right deal.
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