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Magistrates, hold your heads in shame, God help society, with all the recent high profile stabbings, mugging and attacks, involving knives, the message given out at this court is disgusting. Should have sent that scum down, 4 years.

Magistrates, hold your heads in shame, God help society, with all the recent high profile stabbings, mugging and attacks, involving knives, the message given out at this court is disgusting.
Should have sent that scum down, 4 years.carnmountyouknowitmakessense

Magistrates, hold your heads in shame, God help society, with all the recent high profile stabbings, mugging and attacks, involving knives, the message given out at this court is disgusting. Should have sent that scum down, 4 years.

Score: 35

supermadmax says...8:37am Thu 20 Mar 14

Wow, could you get a weaker prosecutor than Laureen Husain, thorough preparation and highlighting of potential further threat to the public should have ensured a custodial sentence.

Wow, could you get a weaker prosecutor than Laureen Husain, thorough preparation and highlighting of potential further threat to the public should have ensured a custodial sentence.supermadmax

Wow, could you get a weaker prosecutor than Laureen Husain, thorough preparation and highlighting of potential further threat to the public should have ensured a custodial sentence.

Score: 23

Rich;'Carol says...8:40am Thu 20 Mar 14

carnmountyouknowitma kessense wrote…

Magistrates, hold your heads in shame, God help society, with all the recent high profile stabbings, mugging and attacks, involving knives, the message given out at this court is disgusting. Should have sent that scum down, 4 years.

You are right.. The new laws from 2009 state they can give up to 4 years for carrying a knife and up to 11 years to threaten with a knife and these magistrates who do not know anything at all give this Rsoll nothing. I bet he sent down his next in the person for nicking a lump of cheese. I AM DISGUSTED

[quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma
kessense[/bold] wrote:
Magistrates, hold your heads in shame, God help society, with all the recent high profile stabbings, mugging and attacks, involving knives, the message given out at this court is disgusting.
Should have sent that scum down, 4 years.[/p][/quote]You are right.. The new laws from 2009 state they can give up to 4 years for carrying a knife and up to 11 years to threaten with a knife and these magistrates who do not know anything at all give this Rsoll nothing. I bet he sent down his next in the person for nicking a lump of cheese. I AM DISGUSTEDRich;'Carol

carnmountyouknowitma kessense wrote…

Magistrates, hold your heads in shame, God help society, with all the recent high profile stabbings, mugging and attacks, involving knives, the message given out at this court is disgusting. Should have sent that scum down, 4 years.

You are right.. The new laws from 2009 state they can give up to 4 years for carrying a knife and up to 11 years to threaten with a knife and these magistrates who do not know anything at all give this Rsoll nothing. I bet he sent down his next in the person for nicking a lump of cheese. I AM DISGUSTED

Score: 22

supermadmax says...8:42am Thu 20 Mar 14

carnmountyouknowitma kessense wrote…

Magistrates, hold your heads in shame, God help society, with all the recent high profile stabbings, mugging and attacks, involving knives, the message given out at this court is disgusting. Should have sent that scum down, 4 years.

It was crown court not magistrates, which means that the magistrates actually did their part but forwarding the case to crown court on the assumption that they did not have the sentencing power to deal with it. They have a maximum of 6 months and considered this to be an indictable offence.

[quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma
kessense[/bold] wrote:
Magistrates, hold your heads in shame, God help society, with all the recent high profile stabbings, mugging and attacks, involving knives, the message given out at this court is disgusting.
Should have sent that scum down, 4 years.[/p][/quote]It was crown court not magistrates, which means that the magistrates actually did their part but forwarding the case to crown court on the assumption that they did not have the sentencing power to deal with it. They have a maximum of 6 months and considered this to be an indictable offence.supermadmax

carnmountyouknowitma kessense wrote…

Magistrates, hold your heads in shame, God help society, with all the recent high profile stabbings, mugging and attacks, involving knives, the message given out at this court is disgusting. Should have sent that scum down, 4 years.

It was crown court not magistrates, which means that the magistrates actually did their part but forwarding the case to crown court on the assumption that they did not have the sentencing power to deal with it. They have a maximum of 6 months and considered this to be an indictable offence.

Score: 12

Barry Bas says...8:51am Thu 20 Mar 14

carnmountyouknowitma kessense wrote…

Magistrates, hold your heads in shame, God help society, with all the recent high profile stabbings, mugging and attacks, involving knives, the message given out at this court is disgusting. Should have sent that scum down, 4 years.

If you read the story again you will see it was the Crown Court that handed the sentence down not the Magistrates Court. The Magistrates obviously realised that this was too serious a crime for them to rule on and quite rightly passed it up to the Crown Court.

[quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma
kessense[/bold] wrote:
Magistrates, hold your heads in shame, God help society, with all the recent high profile stabbings, mugging and attacks, involving knives, the message given out at this court is disgusting. Should have sent that scum down, 4 years.[/p][/quote]If you read the story again you will see it was the Crown Court that handed the sentence down not the Magistrates Court. The Magistrates obviously realised that this was too serious a crime for them to rule on and quite rightly passed it up to the Crown Court.Barry Bas

carnmountyouknowitma kessense wrote…

Magistrates, hold your heads in shame, God help society, with all the recent high profile stabbings, mugging and attacks, involving knives, the message given out at this court is disgusting. Should have sent that scum down, 4 years.

If you read the story again you will see it was the Crown Court that handed the sentence down not the Magistrates Court. The Magistrates obviously realised that this was too serious a crime for them to rule on and quite rightly passed it up to the Crown Court.

Score: 7

InTheKnowOk says...9:03am Thu 20 Mar 14

There you go, a prime example of how we fail in this country ..

There you go, a prime example of how we fail in this country ..InTheKnowOk

There you go, a prime example of how we fail in this country ..

Score: 11

Discouraged says...9:13am Thu 20 Mar 14

The police risk their lives then get kicked in the teeth by the legal system. Both this home Secretary and the previous one said that people caught carrying knives should go to prison, let alone lunging at people.This should be appealed, and shame on the Judge.

The police risk their lives then get kicked in the teeth by the legal system. Both this home Secretary and the previous one said that people caught carrying knives should go to prison, let alone lunging at people.This should be appealed, and shame on the Judge.Discouraged

The police risk their lives then get kicked in the teeth by the legal system. Both this home Secretary and the previous one said that people caught carrying knives should go to prison, let alone lunging at people.This should be appealed, and shame on the Judge.

Score: 13

DogsMessInLeigh says...9:26am Thu 20 Mar 14

should have let Cody in on the action.

should have let Cody in on the action.DogsMessInLeigh

should have let Cody in on the action.

Score: 6

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...9:41am Thu 20 Mar 14

Crown Court Judge(s), hold your heads in shame, God help society, with all the recent high profile stabbings, mugging and attacks, involving knives, the message given out at this court is disgusting. Should have sent that scum down, 4 years.

Crown Court Judge(s), hold your heads in shame, God help society, with all the recent high profile stabbings, mugging and attacks, involving knives, the message given out at this court is disgusting.
Should have sent that scum down, 4 years.carnmountyouknowitmakessense

Crown Court Judge(s), hold your heads in shame, God help society, with all the recent high profile stabbings, mugging and attacks, involving knives, the message given out at this court is disgusting. Should have sent that scum down, 4 years.

Score: 9

rayleigh123 says...9:49am Thu 20 Mar 14

carnmountyouknowitma kessense wrote…

Crown Court Judge(s), hold your heads in shame, God help society, with all the recent high profile stabbings, mugging and attacks, involving knives, the message given out at this court is disgusting. Should have sent that scum down, 4 years.

I thought it was 4 years for having a blade - let alone threatening a constable THE CROWN COURT JUDGES SHOULD HOLD THEIR HEADS IN SHAME . . .

[quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma
kessense[/bold] wrote:
Crown Court Judge(s), hold your heads in shame, God help society, with all the recent high profile stabbings, mugging and attacks, involving knives, the message given out at this court is disgusting. Should have sent that scum down, 4 years.[/p][/quote]I thought it was 4 years for having a blade - let alone threatening a constable
THE CROWN COURT JUDGES SHOULD HOLD THEIR HEADS IN SHAME
.
.
.rayleigh123

carnmountyouknowitma kessense wrote…

Crown Court Judge(s), hold your heads in shame, God help society, with all the recent high profile stabbings, mugging and attacks, involving knives, the message given out at this court is disgusting. Should have sent that scum down, 4 years.

I thought it was 4 years for having a blade - let alone threatening a constable THE CROWN COURT JUDGES SHOULD HOLD THEIR HEADS IN SHAME . . .

Score: 10

I hate the police! says...10:22am Thu 20 Mar 14

Discouraged wrote…

The police risk their lives then get kicked in the teeth by the legal system. Both this home Secretary and the previous one said that people caught carrying knives should go to prison, let alone lunging at people.This should be appealed, and shame on the Judge.

It's their job. No sympathy for them atall. The correct decision was made in my eyes. We all do stupid things after a few drinks. Not to the extent what he did, but everyone deserves a second chance. No one was harmed atall, so all in all, a good result for everyone involved. Well done John Lodge.

[quote][p][bold]Discouraged[/bold] wrote:
The police risk their lives then get kicked in the teeth by the legal system. Both this home Secretary and the previous one said that people caught carrying knives should go to prison, let alone lunging at people.This should be appealed, and shame on the Judge.[/p][/quote]It's their job. No sympathy for them atall. The correct decision was made in my eyes. We all do stupid things after a few drinks. Not to the extent what he did, but everyone deserves a second chance. No one was harmed atall, so all in all, a good result for everyone involved. Well done John Lodge.I hate the police!

Discouraged wrote…

The police risk their lives then get kicked in the teeth by the legal system. Both this home Secretary and the previous one said that people caught carrying knives should go to prison, let alone lunging at people.This should be appealed, and shame on the Judge.

It's their job. No sympathy for them atall. The correct decision was made in my eyes. We all do stupid things after a few drinks. Not to the extent what he did, but everyone deserves a second chance. No one was harmed atall, so all in all, a good result for everyone involved. Well done John Lodge.

Score: -21

Kim Gandy says...10:31am Thu 20 Mar 14

I hate the police! wrote…

Discouraged wrote…

The police risk their lives then get kicked in the teeth by the legal system. Both this home Secretary and the previous one said that people caught carrying knives should go to prison, let alone lunging at people.This should be appealed, and shame on the Judge.

It's their job. No sympathy for them atall. The correct decision was made in my eyes. We all do stupid things after a few drinks. Not to the extent what he did, but everyone deserves a second chance. No one was harmed atall, so all in all, a good result for everyone involved. Well done John Lodge.

I am not fond of the police, given their recent performance over exploding caravans on the A130. See other story. However, nobody should be threatened with a knife and this loonytune could have killed somebody. Anyone could have been a victim. Waving a weapon around in public is an absolute no no. We all get angry but if we all went waving weapons at people we don't like, what sort of a world would it be? We've all got a hit list where undesirable people are concerned but most of us keep it in our heads.

[quote][p][bold]I hate the police![/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Discouraged[/bold] wrote:
The police risk their lives then get kicked in the teeth by the legal system. Both this home Secretary and the previous one said that people caught carrying knives should go to prison, let alone lunging at people.This should be appealed, and shame on the Judge.[/p][/quote]It's their job. No sympathy for them atall. The correct decision was made in my eyes. We all do stupid things after a few drinks. Not to the extent what he did, but everyone deserves a second chance. No one was harmed atall, so all in all, a good result for everyone involved. Well done John Lodge.[/p][/quote]I am not fond of the police, given their recent performance over exploding caravans on the A130. See other story.
However, nobody should be threatened with a knife and this loonytune could have killed somebody. Anyone could have been a victim.
Waving a weapon around in public is an absolute no no. We all get angry but if we all went waving weapons at people we don't like, what sort of a world would it be?
We've all got a hit list where undesirable people are concerned but most of us keep it in our heads.Kim Gandy

I hate the police! wrote…

Discouraged wrote…

The police risk their lives then get kicked in the teeth by the legal system. Both this home Secretary and the previous one said that people caught carrying knives should go to prison, let alone lunging at people.This should be appealed, and shame on the Judge.

It's their job. No sympathy for them atall. The correct decision was made in my eyes. We all do stupid things after a few drinks. Not to the extent what he did, but everyone deserves a second chance. No one was harmed atall, so all in all, a good result for everyone involved. Well done John Lodge.

I am not fond of the police, given their recent performance over exploding caravans on the A130. See other story. However, nobody should be threatened with a knife and this loonytune could have killed somebody. Anyone could have been a victim. Waving a weapon around in public is an absolute no no. We all get angry but if we all went waving weapons at people we don't like, what sort of a world would it be? We've all got a hit list where undesirable people are concerned but most of us keep it in our heads.

Score: 5

I hate the police! says...11:26am Thu 20 Mar 14

rayleigh123 wrote…

carnmountyouknowitma kessense wrote…

Crown Court Judge(s), hold your heads in shame, God help society, with all the recent high profile stabbings, mugging and attacks, involving knives, the message given out at this court is disgusting. Should have sent that scum down, 4 years.

I thought it was 4 years for having a blade - let alone threatening a constable THE CROWN COURT JUDGES SHOULD HOLD THEIR HEADS IN SHAME . . .

What makes a police officer so special? Just another human being in a fancy costume.

[quote][p][bold]rayleigh123[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma
kessense[/bold] wrote:
Crown Court Judge(s), hold your heads in shame, God help society, with all the recent high profile stabbings, mugging and attacks, involving knives, the message given out at this court is disgusting. Should have sent that scum down, 4 years.[/p][/quote]I thought it was 4 years for having a blade - let alone threatening a constable
THE CROWN COURT JUDGES SHOULD HOLD THEIR HEADS IN SHAME
.
.
.[/p][/quote]What makes a police officer so special? Just another human being in a fancy costume.I hate the police!

rayleigh123 wrote…

carnmountyouknowitma kessense wrote…

Crown Court Judge(s), hold your heads in shame, God help society, with all the recent high profile stabbings, mugging and attacks, involving knives, the message given out at this court is disgusting. Should have sent that scum down, 4 years.

I thought it was 4 years for having a blade - let alone threatening a constable THE CROWN COURT JUDGES SHOULD HOLD THEIR HEADS IN SHAME . . .

What makes a police officer so special? Just another human being in a fancy costume.

"Ward dialled 999 and told the operator he was going out with a knife and if police tried to stop him someone would be stabbed" He give policia warning - why they test his patience so? Policia risk innocent people's lives by trying to stop him.

"Ward dialled 999 and told the operator he was going out with a knife and if police tried to stop him someone would be stabbed"
He give policia warning - why they test his patience so? Policia risk innocent people's lives by trying to stop him.MarcelloM

"Ward dialled 999 and told the operator he was going out with a knife and if police tried to stop him someone would be stabbed" He give policia warning - why they test his patience so? Policia risk innocent people's lives by trying to stop him.

Score: -5

emcee says...3:17pm Thu 20 Mar 14

It is this example of the of justice system that has allowed the UK to break. The current batch of stabbings in the local area are proof of this. The age of lawlessness and vigilantism is not far off. Watch this space.

It is this example of the of justice system that has allowed the UK to break. The current batch of stabbings in the local area are proof of this.
The age of lawlessness and vigilantism is not far off. Watch this space.emcee

It is this example of the of justice system that has allowed the UK to break. The current batch of stabbings in the local area are proof of this. The age of lawlessness and vigilantism is not far off. Watch this space.

Score: 10

Idontknowy says...6:10pm Thu 20 Mar 14

I hate the police! wrote…

Discouraged wrote…

The police risk their lives then get kicked in the teeth by the legal system. Both this home Secretary and the previous one said that people caught carrying knives should go to prison, let alone lunging at people.This should be appealed, and shame on the Judge.

It's their job. No sympathy for them atall. The correct decision was made in my eyes. We all do stupid things after a few drinks. Not to the extent what he did, but everyone deserves a second chance. No one was harmed atall, so all in all, a good result for everyone involved. Well done John Lodge.

Cos somebody can't hold their drink is no excuse to go out armed with a knife and lunging at people He should have had a long custodial sentence If you can't hold your drink then don't.

[quote][p][bold]I hate the police![/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Discouraged[/bold] wrote:
The police risk their lives then get kicked in the teeth by the legal system. Both this home Secretary and the previous one said that people caught carrying knives should go to prison, let alone lunging at people.This should be appealed, and shame on the Judge.[/p][/quote]It's their job. No sympathy for them atall. The correct decision was made in my eyes. We all do stupid things after a few drinks. Not to the extent what he did, but everyone deserves a second chance. No one was harmed atall, so all in all, a good result for everyone involved. Well done John Lodge.[/p][/quote]Cos somebody can't hold their drink is no excuse to go out armed with a knife and lunging at people He should have had a long custodial sentence
If you can't hold your drink then don't.Idontknowy

I hate the police! wrote…

Discouraged wrote…

The police risk their lives then get kicked in the teeth by the legal system. Both this home Secretary and the previous one said that people caught carrying knives should go to prison, let alone lunging at people.This should be appealed, and shame on the Judge.

It's their job. No sympathy for them atall. The correct decision was made in my eyes. We all do stupid things after a few drinks. Not to the extent what he did, but everyone deserves a second chance. No one was harmed atall, so all in all, a good result for everyone involved. Well done John Lodge.

Cos somebody can't hold their drink is no excuse to go out armed with a knife and lunging at people He should have had a long custodial sentence If you can't hold your drink then don't.

Score: 4

Nebs says...6:23pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Judges should be elected.

Judges should be elected.Nebs

Judges should be elected.

Score: 1

Dan-Hockley says...6:36pm Thu 20 Mar 14

who the hell allows these judges to have such power. This beggars belief and I seriously wonder what bloody planet they are on - they make a total and utter mockery of the hard work undertaken by police

who the hell allows these judges to have such power.
This beggars belief and I seriously wonder what bloody planet they are on - they make a total and utter mockery of the hard work undertaken by policeDan-Hockley

who the hell allows these judges to have such power. This beggars belief and I seriously wonder what bloody planet they are on - they make a total and utter mockery of the hard work undertaken by police

Score: 5

Dan-Hockley says...6:43pm Thu 20 Mar 14

I hate the police! wrote…

Discouraged wrote…

The police risk their lives then get kicked in the teeth by the legal system. Both this home Secretary and the previous one said that people caught carrying knives should go to prison, let alone lunging at people.This should be appealed, and shame on the Judge.

It's their job. No sympathy for them atall. The correct decision was made in my eyes. We all do stupid things after a few drinks. Not to the extent what he did, but everyone deserves a second chance. No one was harmed atall, so all in all, a good result for everyone involved. Well done John Lodge.

I don't know who you are, but can you do the world a favour and don't breed!

[quote][p][bold]I hate the police![/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Discouraged[/bold] wrote:
The police risk their lives then get kicked in the teeth by the legal system. Both this home Secretary and the previous one said that people caught carrying knives should go to prison, let alone lunging at people.This should be appealed, and shame on the Judge.[/p][/quote]It's their job. No sympathy for them atall. The correct decision was made in my eyes. We all do stupid things after a few drinks. Not to the extent what he did, but everyone deserves a second chance. No one was harmed atall, so all in all, a good result for everyone involved. Well done John Lodge.[/p][/quote]I don't know who you are, but can you do the world a favour and don't breed!Dan-Hockley

I hate the police! wrote…

Discouraged wrote…

The police risk their lives then get kicked in the teeth by the legal system. Both this home Secretary and the previous one said that people caught carrying knives should go to prison, let alone lunging at people.This should be appealed, and shame on the Judge.

It's their job. No sympathy for them atall. The correct decision was made in my eyes. We all do stupid things after a few drinks. Not to the extent what he did, but everyone deserves a second chance. No one was harmed atall, so all in all, a good result for everyone involved. Well done John Lodge.

I don't know who you are, but can you do the world a favour and don't breed!

Score: 10

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...7:11pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Nebs wrote…

Judges should be elected.

And the inept ones, put into stocks, for the delivery of some rotten eggs.

[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote:
Judges should be elected.[/p][/quote]And the inept ones, put into stocks, for the delivery of some rotten eggs.carnmountyouknowitmakessense

Nebs wrote…

Judges should be elected.

And the inept ones, put into stocks, for the delivery of some rotten eggs.

Score: 5

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...7:13pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Kim Gandy wrote…

I hate the police! wrote…

Discouraged wrote…

The police risk their lives then get kicked in the teeth by the legal system. Both this home Secretary and the previous one said that people caught carrying knives should go to prison, let alone lunging at people.This should be appealed, and shame on the Judge.

It's their job. No sympathy for them atall. The correct decision was made in my eyes. We all do stupid things after a few drinks. Not to the extent what he did, but everyone deserves a second chance. No one was harmed atall, so all in all, a good result for everyone involved. Well done John Lodge.

I am not fond of the police, given their recent performance over exploding caravans on the A130. See other story. However, nobody should be threatened with a knife and this loonytune could have killed somebody. Anyone could have been a victim. Waving a weapon around in public is an absolute no no. We all get angry but if we all went waving weapons at people we don't like, what sort of a world would it be? We've all got a hit list where undesirable people are concerned but most of us keep it in our heads.

Look on the bright side Kim, they didnt burn them in town, behind some grotty flats...

[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]I hate the police![/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Discouraged[/bold] wrote:
The police risk their lives then get kicked in the teeth by the legal system. Both this home Secretary and the previous one said that people caught carrying knives should go to prison, let alone lunging at people.This should be appealed, and shame on the Judge.[/p][/quote]It's their job. No sympathy for them atall. The correct decision was made in my eyes. We all do stupid things after a few drinks. Not to the extent what he did, but everyone deserves a second chance. No one was harmed atall, so all in all, a good result for everyone involved. Well done John Lodge.[/p][/quote]I am not fond of the police, given their recent performance over exploding caravans on the A130. See other story.
However, nobody should be threatened with a knife and this loonytune could have killed somebody. Anyone could have been a victim.
Waving a weapon around in public is an absolute no no. We all get angry but if we all went waving weapons at people we don't like, what sort of a world would it be?
We've all got a hit list where undesirable people are concerned but most of us keep it in our heads.[/p][/quote]Look on the bright side Kim, they didnt burn them in town, behind some grotty flats...carnmountyouknowitmakessense

Kim Gandy wrote…

I hate the police! wrote…

Discouraged wrote…

The police risk their lives then get kicked in the teeth by the legal system. Both this home Secretary and the previous one said that people caught carrying knives should go to prison, let alone lunging at people.This should be appealed, and shame on the Judge.

It's their job. No sympathy for them atall. The correct decision was made in my eyes. We all do stupid things after a few drinks. Not to the extent what he did, but everyone deserves a second chance. No one was harmed atall, so all in all, a good result for everyone involved. Well done John Lodge.

I am not fond of the police, given their recent performance over exploding caravans on the A130. See other story. However, nobody should be threatened with a knife and this loonytune could have killed somebody. Anyone could have been a victim. Waving a weapon around in public is an absolute no no. We all get angry but if we all went waving weapons at people we don't like, what sort of a world would it be? We've all got a hit list where undesirable people are concerned but most of us keep it in our heads.

Look on the bright side Kim, they didnt burn them in town, behind some grotty flats...

Score: -1

The blues says...7:45am Fri 21 Mar 14

The point is he was given a so called intensive community programme, a so called ATR (Alcohol Treatment Requirement). Which means he will get no help as Probation do not run these courses, they are run by CDAS and they offer nothing! Intensive!!! What a joke! Next time he might kill some one, at least he would have detoxed in Prison, criminal justice system stinks!!!

The point is he was given a so called intensive community programme, a so called ATR (Alcohol Treatment Requirement). Which means he will get no help as Probation do not run these courses, they are run by CDAS and they offer nothing! Intensive!!! What a joke! Next time he might kill some one, at least he would have detoxed in Prison, criminal justice system stinks!!!The blues

The point is he was given a so called intensive community programme, a so called ATR (Alcohol Treatment Requirement). Which means he will get no help as Probation do not run these courses, they are run by CDAS and they offer nothing! Intensive!!! What a joke! Next time he might kill some one, at least he would have detoxed in Prison, criminal justice system stinks!!!

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