IMO the Nomad is a step in the next direction of live recording, but it still needs help. I believe on the newer model, it now has digi in. The only way to transfer the digital signal is through USB. USB is still not the best transfer medium. There's talk of a fireware conection, and firware is much better than USB. The compression is worse than MD, and I believe it saves a MP3. I think that it does also save the audio as microsoft wav file. Not as good as a pure wav file, but better than MP3. Keep watching, because the advancments in the field are growing faster and faster. It appears that DAT is on the way out, but that is years to come still.

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Okay, has anyone cecked out the new Jukebox 3? It appears that the only it doesn't have compaired to DAT is the 24bit. It has monitors for both stereo channels, and digi/analog I/O. Has anyone used one of these?

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There is quite a bit of info on the OADE board about taping with this... Doesn't do 24 bit, but it does go bit for bit...I won't say this will replace DAT but it might replace MD. Doug Oade makes a good point on there about the concept of removable media. Not every show we tape needs to be moved to CD. Nice part about DAT is you can remove the DAT and leave it for later and not be worried about taking up space :-)

Very true, but let's put aside the "archiving" aspect of this and talk of it replacing other mediums. I've seen the discussion on the Oade board, and it's getting heated. But no one is talking about how well it works in the field. I know that the SPDIF cable has been know to cause some problems, but my experience on the SPDIF cable, is you need a right angle one. How caomparable is it to DAT sound wise? I know MD grabs about 80% of the sound, which is not bad at all. Is this grabbing 100% like DAT? It as digi out via the USB and firewire. If someone has a great set of mics, pre, and a/d, this thing has some great potential!

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Honestly- instead of spending 400 dollars on this, Id rather save my money for a few more months and buy a laptop. we are now seeing laptops (good ones) for field recording being configured for as low as 5-600 dollars. If you are gonna go half way, why not go all the way and get something you can do everything on! (plus I can watch dvd's on mine during the plane rides home from some of my further away shows :-) )

jpschust

id just check out ebay... anythign p3 + 128 mb ram 12 gig hard drive or more. those should be your minimums. also make sure you will be able to acquire a phat battery for it as well (take the manufacturers time on the battery and divide it by 3 to get actual recording time out of the battery)

the JB3 can record .wav files @ 16bit 32/44.1/48k, has TOSLINK mini input that is bit accurate (sometimes not).

3 hour max record time per file. About 15 seconds to stop (auto save) and start new file.

can record from powered mics (battery box driven) and can add gain to this mic/line feed.

and it has replaced my DAT decks.

offloading the recordings is done via very slow USB or very fast firewire. No soundcard needed, no bit accurace transfer concerns, no head ware, no heads! , no tapes..etc.

the arguement about "storing dat tapes" is sort of bogus, IMO. I can store the SHN files that I make in all of 5 minutes on a $.29 CD-R just as easily.well, I guess it's not as easy as hitting "eject"...but give me a break.

you can get them new for $275 if you look around enough. try priceline or pricegrabber.

I gave the JB3 its first run last nite at moe. and the dat is still for sale!I was really happy with the controls and the ease of function. I ran mc012>gp d-mic20(48k)>co2>jb3 (hypers ats)The optical in is sturdy and can handle being shuffled around a good bit.

The battery life might be an issue at a festival, but 2 will suffice for about any show I think, and leave plenty of roo to spare. I have only listened to half the first set and the second set and encore, but have heard no audible clicks pops dropouts, etc.

The level meters are lacking a bit, but do the job.

All in all I'm happy with my purchase so far and cant wait to get home tonite and transfer via firewire!!!Thanks to all who gave input and advice...I love my new toy!!

I gave the JB3 its first run last nite at moe. and the dat is still for sale!I was really happy with the controls and the ease of function. I ran mc012>gp d-mic20(48k)>co2>jb3 (hypers ats)The optical in is sturdy and can handle being shuffled around a good bit.

The battery life might be an issue at a festival, but 2 will suffice for about any show I think, and leave plenty of roo to spare. I have only listened to half the first set and the second set and encore, but have heard no audible clicks pops dropouts, etc.

The level meters are lacking a bit, but do the job.

All in all I'm happy with my purchase so far and cant wait to get home tonite and transfer via firewire!!!Thanks to all who gave input and advice...I love my new toy!!