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Or take the price of the shelves from the $500 that you plan to
donate to NB.<br>
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On 1/31/2011 10:38 AM, Mitch Altman wrote:
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And feel free to find cool&nbsp;shelves to buy for a good price, or
gather materials for making them -- and then ask folks for
donations (on this list, on IRC, in person, and wherever)!&nbsp; This
is how lots of way cool things happen at NB&nbsp;(including getting our
MakerBot, our upcoming&nbsp;laser-cutter, the original shelving we
still have,&nbsp;&nbsp;. . .).&nbsp; No need for consensus this way -- just make
it happen.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Mitch.<br>
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&gt; From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:glen@glenjarvis.com">glen@glenjarvis.com</a><br>
&gt; Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 07:14:18 -0800<br>
&gt; To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:citizenkeys@gmail.com">citizenkeys@gmail.com</a><br>
&gt; CC: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] more member shelves = more
happy members = more NB income<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; As a reminder, when I last heard, having a hack self was not
necessarily a benefit of membership. Non members could have
shelves.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; When I last saw an argument for having more shelves, I
believe it was left to anyone who wanted to buy, install and find
room for more shelves.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Additionally, having locked resources has always been a
source of contention at Noisebridge. It's possible that some
people would cut locks just for the principle.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; With all of that said, if you think more shelves would
benefit Noisebridge, I suggest going out to buy (or help build)
some. You have mentioned offering transportation to individuals,
so you may be able to transport these. If you don't have the money
for shelves, you may ask individuals for donations for the purpose
of buying one.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; In summary, great idea. Make it happen (be warned about the
locks though) abd that there isn't such a clear idea about
hack/member shelves. You don't need permissions to make shelves
for the space.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Cheers,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Glen<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; El Jan 30, 2011, a las 11:34 PM, Patrick Keys
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:citizenkeys@gmail.com">&lt;citizenkeys@gmail.com&gt;</a> escribi&oacute;:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; More Member Shelves<br>
&gt; &gt; -----------------------<br>
&gt; &gt; noisebridge could use more member shelves.<br>
&gt; &gt; more member shelves means we could accomodate more
members and thereby <br>
&gt; &gt; have more membership income (theoretically).<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; One Size Does Not Fit All<br>
&gt; &gt; --------------------------<br>
&gt; &gt; personally, i think we could accomodate everybody better
if we had <br>
&gt; &gt; different sized shelves.<br>
&gt; &gt; people that don't need much space could use smaller
shelves.<br>
&gt; &gt; people that need more space could use bigger shelves.<br>
&gt; &gt; think of the shelves like post office boxes, with
smaller ones higher up <br>
&gt; &gt; and larger ones for heavier stuff closer to the ground.<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; Safety In Numbers<br>
&gt; &gt; ---------------------------<br>
&gt; &gt; we could number the shelves, thereby making it easier to
at least know <br>
&gt; &gt; who has what shelf.<br>
&gt; &gt; numbers are also more anonymous than having to write
your name on the shelf.<br>
&gt; &gt; You know what number shelf your stuff is in and nobody
else does (unless <br>
&gt; &gt; they physically see you come and go from the shelf).<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; Out of Sight, Out of Mind<br>
&gt; &gt; ---------------------------<br>
&gt; &gt; shannon had mentioned making shelves way back when with
doors on them.<br>
&gt; &gt; with doors on the shelves, they could be BYOL ("bring
your own lock").<br>
&gt; &gt; also, having shelves with doors makes stuff "out of
sight, out of mind" <br>
&gt; &gt; for anybody with sticky fingers.<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; Hack Shelf<br>
&gt; &gt; --------------------------<br>
&gt; &gt; The hack shelf shares the space with the member shelves
right now.<br>
&gt; &gt; Moving the hack shelf separate from the member shelves
might result in <br>
&gt; &gt; stuff on the hack shelf getting used more often, which
would be a good <br>
&gt; &gt; thing.<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; Consensing on a Plan<br>
&gt; &gt; --------------------------<br>
&gt; &gt; If we can consense on a plan for new, improved member
shelves, then we <br>
&gt; &gt; can organize the budget and resources necessary to get
the job done. <br>
&gt; &gt; Then its simply a matter of getting them built and
installed.<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; Feedback<br>
&gt; &gt; --------------------------<br>
&gt; &gt; Anybody have any comments about new/improved/increased
member shelves?<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; Patrick<br>
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