Just realized Libraries in 8 uses the explorer icon instead of the library.
I assume Libraries though since it's a library.

This is going to sound dumb, but Windows 8 still has the traditional "icons and start bar" desktop setup available, right? We're not forced to use a kind of tablet interface? And if it does, what improvements over Windows 7 will it bring?

[QUOTE=BobIsCrappy;34169142]This is going to sound dumb, but Windows 8 still has the traditional "icons and start bar" desktop setup available, right? We're not forced to use a kind of tablet interface? And if it does, what improvements over Windows 7 will it bring?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, there's Desktop mode.
It has the Windows Store which will have apps for Windows in an easy to find place.

[QUOTE=BobIsCrappy;34169142]This is going to sound dumb, but Windows 8 still has the traditional "icons and start bar" desktop setup available, right? We're not forced to use a kind of tablet interface? And if it does, what improvements over Windows 7 will it bring?[/QUOTE]
Less memory usage, much faster, better UI bits sans aero, I forget the rest.

[QUOTE=Panda X;34169120]Just realized Libraries in 8 uses the explorer icon instead of the library.
I assume Libraries though since it's a library.[/QUOTE]
I wondered if it was "Computer" since that tile is missing in that screenshot...although somebody could have just removed it, I guess.

i honestly don't see much reason for "Computer" to be a default tile

I apologize for sounding like a total douche, but I haven't found even one Metro app I like. I've tried to like them, but they just don't fare well on a desktop without a touchscreen. I still think that Metro should only be used on tablets and Media Center setups, while regular desktop users get the usual desktop+icons treatment, with the option to enable Metro if they so desire after installation. It just makes more sense to me.
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[QUOTE=Lazor;34172092]i honestly don't see much reason for "Computer" to be a default tile[/QUOTE]
Tap Computer, tap SD card, tap Movie.mkv; And you're watching a movie in just 3 taps.

[QUOTE=Brock Obama;34172452]I apologize for sounding like a total douche, but I haven't found even one Metro app I like. I've tried to like them, but they just don't fare well on a desktop without a touchscreen. I still think that Metro should only be used on tablets and Media Center setups, while regular desktop users get the usual desktop+icons treatment, with the option to enable Metro if they so desire after installation. It just makes more sense to me.
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Tap Computer, tap SD card, tap Movie.mkv; And you're watching a movie in just 3 taps.[/QUOTE]
That's something you'd do from the Video app though.
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[QUOTE=Jimmy422;34171570]I wondered if it was "Computer" since that tile is missing in that screenshot...although somebody could have just removed it, I guess.[/QUOTE]
Look at the scrollbar on the bottom, there room for another group since Work starts at the edge of the screen. Perhaps there would be Computer.

Isn't that libraries icon the same icon (but metro-fied) they used in Windows 7 (before the beta I think)?

[QUOTE=Dr Egg;34175875]Isn't that libraries icon the same icon (but metro-fied) they used in Windows 7 (before the beta I think)?[/QUOTE]
Oh wow, I thought Libraries used that icon.

[QUOTE=Panda X;34174989]That's something you'd do from the Video app though.[/QUOTE]
Well unless I can use VLC as my Video app, count me out.

[QUOTE=Brock Obama;34177250]Well unless I can use VLC as my Video app, count me out.[/QUOTE]
You can still use all x86-64 programs, you know...

[QUOTE=woolio1;34178361]You can still use all x86-64 programs, you know...[/QUOTE]
Good to know. I am glad there's no app restrictions, and hopefully in the beta we can easily make app shortcuts to Metro, and customize the tile. Key word in that sentence folks, was 'easily'.

The new gestures make going through the start screen a breeze: [url]http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-pre-beta-demoed-shows-new-features-video[/url]

[QUOTE=Brock Obama;34172452]I apologize for sounding like a total douche, but I haven't found even one Metro app I like. I've tried to like them, but they just don't fare well on a desktop without a touchscreen. I still think that Metro should only be used on tablets and Media Center setups, while regular desktop users get the usual desktop+icons treatment, with the option to enable Metro if they so desire after installation. It just makes more sense to me.
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Tap Computer, tap SD card, tap Movie.mkv; And you're watching a movie in just 3 taps.[/QUOTE]
if only there were like, a mechanism for computers to automatically scan removable media for media files...

[QUOTE=Lazor;34184613]if only there were like, a mechanism for computers to automatically scan removable media for media files...[/QUOTE]
What about AutoPlay?

The biggest thing I don't like about metro on desktop is scrolling. I think scrolling with the mouse should be the same as with touch. Like you can scroll through pdf documents on most pdf viewers. They also seem to think that it's easier to move your mouse across the screen than to maneuver it in a small space. I disagree with that. That's why I prefer the Win7 start menu. People keep saying 'you can just type and it's all the same', but why is it even there then? I prefer not having another UI. Some programs are going to end up being metro exclusive, others desktop exclusive, and microsoft's going to end up building layers upon layers of compatibility in future Windows versions. Metro, to me, is just another layer of shit on desktop. If there doing metro, they should do metro only.
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[QUOTE=Lazor;34184613]if only there were like, a mechanism for computers to automatically scan removable media for media files...[/QUOTE]
uhh.. there is? My android phone does just that.

[QUOTE=DeadKiller987;34190772]The biggest thing I don't like about metro on desktop is scrolling. I think scrolling with the mouse should be the same as with touch. Like you can scroll through pdf documents on most pdf viewers. They also seem to think that it's easier to move your mouse across the screen than to maneuver it in a small space.[/QUOTE]
You can use the scroll wheel, which is generally how you'd scroll through a document.
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[url]http://winunleaked.tk/2012/01/windows-server-code-named-8-beta/[/url]
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A bit late but this is neat, run Android apps on Windows 8: [url]http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-to-run-android-apps-via-bluestacks[/url]

I'd say it's about time they did something about the start button.

Wait so are desktop apps still expected to look like Metro apps then? Or is that just a stopgap before it becomes a proper Metro app?

[QUOTE=Dr Egg;34191931]Wait so are desktop apps still expected to look like Metro apps then? Or is that just a stopgap before it becomes a proper Metro app?[/QUOTE]
I doubt that desktop apps would be expected to look like Metro, but it'd be nice.

[QUOTE=Panda X;34190975]You can use the scroll wheel, which is generally how you'd scroll through a document.
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[url]http://winunleaked.tk/2012/01/windows-server-code-named-8-beta/[/url]
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A bit late but this is neat, run Android apps on Windows 8: [url]http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-to-run-android-apps-via-bluestacks[/url][/QUOTE]
Wow, such a big step backwards (obviously only using those screenshots as reference)
The old dashboard has a lot more info packed in one screen. This is sad. I realize it's not finished but this is the wrong direction to take.

What does the dashboard look like now?

Apparently, the old start menu has been removed entirely in Server Beta.
Interesting.

Windows Server 8 Beta screenshot leaked, build reaches 8180:
Source: [url]http://networkedblogs.com/sF9ZJ[/url]
And just when I thought Microsoft was all cool, they go and pull this shit:
[I]"Disabling Secure [Boot] MUST NOT be possible on ARM systems."[/I]
Source: [url]http://www.softwarefreedom.org/blog/2012/jan/12/microsoft-confirms-UEFI-fears-locks-down-ARM/[/url]

[QUOTE=Brock Obama;34194731]Windows Server 8 Beta screenshot leaked, build reaches 8180:
Source: [url]http://networkedblogs.com/sF9ZJ[/url]
And just when I thought Microsoft was all cool, they go and pull this shit:
[I]"Disabling Secure [Boot] MUST NOT be possible on ARM systems."[/I]
Source: [url]http://www.softwarefreedom.org/blog/2012/jan/12/microsoft-confirms-UEFI-fears-locks-down-ARM/[/url][/QUOTE]
Don't get a Windows 8 ARM tablet then.

Well, what are you expecting? Tablets, in the current consumer philosophy, have to do one thing, and one thing only: Run the OS they ship with and nothing else.
I believed from the start that Windows 8 ARM tablets would be locked down to compete with things like the iPad and the several Android tablets that have shipped recently. It seems I was correct.
Besides, is there even a Touch-friendly Linux with an ARM port? I can't think of one.

Look at the amount of people who complained the iPad was shit and they would rather have a real OS (aka Windows 7) on a tablet even though it wasn't great for fingers either. Finger friendliness does not stop some people.

I for one, would like the full-blown OS available, with all the features a laptop provides. Running Photoshop on a tablet would be heaven. :3
Of course it would need an x64 processor, and 4GB of RAM to be useful.