And honestly Newguy1, I'm sorry if you're town, but this is the only way to be sure we can avoid any remaining night kills and also get ourselves into a position to vote out a mafia member if you aren't.

well if there are 2 scums left the only way to win would be to kill NG first. Anyway; I'll go with the safe and logical bet kanin spotted (well done mate!). No reason we don't reach day 7 by killing NG, then we will have all roles revealed and will just need to kill jonty...... oh he is a double voter though...

doom can you clarify something: if we reach the final day with kanin, myself and jonty, and that he gets to double vote, that would be 2-2. in case of tie mafia would win right?

nah there is a flaw in kanin's plan. We know for sure there is a mafia role that screws up votes (double voter, vote stealer or whatever it is). There is no safe vote.I'll go with my gut feeling and vote jonty.Each time I don't go with my gut feeling in this situation I end up regreting it.

well if there are 2 scums left the only way to win would be to kill NG first. Anyway; I'll go with the safe and logical bet kanin spotted (well done mate!). No reason we don't reach day 7 by killing NG, then we will have all roles revealed and will just need to kill jonty...... oh he is a double voter though...

doom can you clarify something: if we reach the final day with kanin, myself and jonty, and that he gets to double vote, that would be 2-2. in case of tie mafia would win right?

This pretty much confirms to me that you're scum. Edoc has already been killed, remember? Now you're just trying to end the game with a time paradox so that everyone loses.

Anyway, there's only four living players left. We need to get rid of the two that we know may not be town, and that's newguy1 and Jonty. Get rid of newguy1 and if we haven't ended it, get rid of Jonty.

well if there are 2 scums left the only way to win would be to kill NG first. Anyway; I'll go with the safe and logical bet kanin spotted (well done mate!). No reason we don't reach day 7 by killing NG, then we will have all roles revealed and will just need to kill jonty...... oh he is a double voter though...

doom can you clarify something: if we reach the final day with kanin, myself and jonty, and that he gets to double vote, that would be 2-2. in case of tie mafia would win right?

well if there are 2 scums left the only way to win would be to kill NG first. Anyway; I'll go with the safe and logical bet kanin spotted (well done mate!). No reason we don't reach day 7 by killing NG, then we will have all roles revealed and will just need to kill jonty...... oh he is a double voter though...

doom can you clarify something: if we reach the final day with kanin, myself and jonty, and that he gets to double vote, that would be 2-2. in case of tie mafia would win right?

There can't be a tie due to timestamps. The order matters.

So are you saying that as long as betiko and myself both vote for Jonty before a (possible) double vote by him, we would succeed in a lynch?

This pretty much confirms to me that you're scum. Edoc has already been killed, remember? Now you're just trying to end the game with a time paradox so that everyone loses.

Anyway, there's only four living players left. We need to get rid of the two that we know may not be town, and that's newguy1 and Jonty. Get rid of newguy1 and if we haven't ended it, get rid of Jonty.

dude, if we kill NG, we reach day 7 and then if he's quick enough he places his double vote and we lose. seriously, it's got to be jonty. or if we kill NG we got to be really fast once doom posts the day scene. if one of us doesn't make it before jonty we lose..

i really doubt NG is mafia, and all points out jonty is. my only problem is if they're both.

He has much more chances than us to place his double vote next day than us; we need both of us to do it before him which gives pretty bad odds. I stay with my vote on jonty, he is scum. we take a risk either way.

1) NG firstpros: we reach the final day knowing everybody's role and with just jonty to lynch if it's not game over. If they are both mafia it's the only way to win.cons: if jonty votes before both of us mafia wins.

2)Jonty firstpros: there has been a double voter all game and his claim + slips make us think it's himcons: if he is not scum or if they are both scum we lose

1) NG firstpros: we reach the final day knowing everybody's role and with just jonty to lynch if it's not game over. If they are both mafia it's the only way to win.cons: if jonty votes before both of us mafia wins.

2)Jonty firstpros: there has been a double voter all game and his claim + slips make us think it's himcons: if he is not scum or if they are both scum we lose

I'd like other people's opinion, like nendreel's

1): If NG1 gets lynched now, I don't think all the roles will be revealed. There'll still be the N3 gap because of either you or Kanin being alive. Also if you go to D7 at all knowing the roles won't matter as the only person left is jonty.

2)Whether double voter or vote stealer, he'll have two votes on D7, and you and Kanin have to get your votes in before him.

So, going by what edoc said jonty hasn't gone anywhere, this would mean he's a natural DV rather than a VS. That means we only have one Power we know about in the works, and it seems to be jonty. If NG1 has an ability it hasn't manifested itself yet. NG1 was also willing to vote himself when the idea first came up and I don't think mafia would lynch themselves, especially if the only possibility of a Town win was by killing NG1 first.

My gut says jonty is the last mafia, but if you and Kanin believe you can get your votes in before jonty then I would suggest taking a guaranteed win.

none is a guaranteed win, both are a gamble. I prefer gambling that jonty is the only mafia left, kanin prefers gambling that we will both vote before jonty. I would be much more pissed if we have the game in hand and either of us show up in time and wait in vain for the partner to show up before jonty..