Don Sholeone wrote:End of the day England don't have managers anymore, the team is picked on an FA commitee, ever since the ex pros and pundits whined about foreign managers we have only ever brought in English yes men, that's why the likes of Pardew are linked all the time, and that's why nothing has changed over the last 5-6 years.

So depressing but true. One day it'll hopefully change.

Is there another country in the EU quite as fearful of change and modern ways of coaching as England? What good is it having 50 and 60 year old businessmen in charge of our Football Association? I'm genuinely interested if that is the case in other European nations as I have no idea.

Scotland. Went foreign, failed, national outcry and back to the same old routine.

Don Sholeone wrote:End of the day England don't have managers anymore, the team is picked on an FA commitee, ever since the ex pros and pundits whined about foreign managers we have only ever brought in English yes men, that's why the likes of Pardew are linked all the time, and that's why nothing has changed over the last 5-6 years.

So depressing but true. One day it'll hopefully change.

Is there another country in the EU quite as fearful of change and modern ways of coaching as England? What good is it having 50 and 60 year old businessmen in charge of our Football Association? I'm genuinely interested if that is the case in other European nations as I have no idea.

Don Sholeone wrote:End of the day England don't have managers anymore, the team is picked on an FA commitee, ever since the ex pros and pundits whined about foreign managers we have only ever brought in English yes men, that's why the likes of Pardew are linked all the time, and that's why nothing has changed over the last 5-6 years.

So depressing but true. One day it'll hopefully change.

Is there another country in the EU quite as fearful of change and modern ways of coaching as England? What good is it having 50 and 60 year old businessmen in charge of our Football Association? I'm genuinely interested if that is the case in other European nations as I have no idea.

Don't forget that two historical giants of European football haven't even qualified, so we're not quite at rock bottom yet.

Colly wrote:
Don't forget that two historical giants of European football haven't even qualified, so we're not quite at rock bottom yet.

Fair point but how the hell anyone who's managerial record consists of relegating a club and finishing bottom in the group at a international tournament can be deemed good enough to lead the national team is farcical.

Heisen wrote:I predict a thoroughly depressing last 16 exit, where the inquests will open and everyone will be wondering what we do differently going forward. Southgate will be sacked and Steve Bruce will be appointed. Then we'll thrash Moldova 4-0 in September and it'll all start again.

Welcome to the England boom bust cycle.

You're forgetting the part where a tabloid paper tries to f*** over someone like Harry Kane before the tournament even starts. He'll be accused of something, tricked into making a shady business deal or an ex will come out of the woodwork and say he enjoyed her wearing a strap on and shafting him up his arse.

The Sun are having a good go at Sterling who has a tattoo of an assault rifle. His explanation seems legit about it being about his dad who was shot and killed when he was a kid. Doesn't stop them getting sound bites from an anti gun group about how he should have it removed immediately or never play for England again.

I think from FIFAs point of view they should be insisting on it being covered in games (which no doubt it will be), but the right wing media's hate campaign against Sterling is utterly disgusting. Gary Lineker's thoughts on Twitter this morning have been spot on.

biggeordiedave wrote:
You're forgetting the part where a tabloid paper tries to **** over someone like Harry Kane before the tournament even starts. He'll be accused of something, tricked into making a shady business deal or an ex will come out of the woodwork and say he enjoyed her wearing a strap on and shafting him up his arse.

The Sun are having a good go at Sterling who has a tattoo of an assault rifle. His explanation seems legit about it being about his dad who was shot and killed when he was a kid. Doesn't stop them getting sound bites from an anti gun group about how he should have it removed immediately or never play for England again.

Colly wrote:I think from FIFAs point of view they should be insisting on it being covered in games (which no doubt it will be), but the right wing media's hate campaign against Sterling is utterly disgusting. Gary Lineker's thoughts on Twitter this morning have been spot on.

Funny how in the US it'd probably be celebrated by the right wing media

For the record, I'm of the mind that nobody should care, especially given it's backstory.

Colly wrote:I think from FIFAs point of view they should be insisting on it being covered in games (which no doubt it will be), but the right wing media's hate campaign against Sterling is utterly disgusting. Gary Lineker's thoughts on Twitter this morning have been spot on.

Colly wrote:I think from FIFAs point of view they should be insisting on it being covered in games (which no doubt it will be), but the right wing media's hate campaign against Sterling is utterly disgusting. Gary Lineker's thoughts on Twitter this morning have been spot on.

Alright, the side of the press that for whatever reason are annoyed that a talented young immigrant is representing England and inexplicably paying too much for things/paying too little for things/eating breakfast. Or the right wing press as any normal categorisation would describe it.

Colly wrote:Alright, the side of the press that for whatever reason are annoyed that a talented young immigrant is representing England and inexplicably paying too much for things/paying too little for things/eating breakfast. Or the right wing press as any normal categorisation would describe it.

The arsehole press. They are just looking for anything to get a story and they've happened upon this. I'd consider myself centre right but none of the traditional right wing papers represent my views at all.