The only positive to emerge from last night was the weakening of the rag's position within their group - but the days of our measuring success by their failings should surely now be a thing of the past. No disgrace to lose by one goal away to Juventus and even if we do finish second in our group we might even avoid Barca, Bayern and PSG in the last 16, which would be nice. Imagine, City in the last 8 of the CL!

Hope Hart is back soon - ditto Merlin, VK4 and Zab (although that might be being slightly harsh on Sagna although Zab offers more going forward) not forgetting Aguero getting back to match fitness.