Given that I have not seen a transcript of the speech or extensive quotes from it, I'm not sure I can judge it. However, if his point was that the Bible inspires intolerance toward gay people that fosters an environment in which they are likely to be bullied, I think he is correct.

Yet, the only point he actually made is that he has boundary and rage issues and can't manage to conduct himself like a responsible professional. He nuked his own message and trashed his own credibility. That seems to be what actually happened, not the spin you supplied.

I would join Farsight in respectfully disagreeing Biblepoe. It's inflammatory and playing into the likes of Savage's hands to suggest that homophobia is a "normal" expectation. One of the thing's that seems to incense the militant anti-Catholic individual is praying for people who endorse the same sex lifestyle. The new testament brought forgiveness and love; Christian love which is willing the good of the other. I therefore pray everyone follow the path and life that our Lord Jesus Christ wanted us to take. Talking about hatred of individuals, even if it is only a commentary, which is what you have provided and therefore probably isn't your opinion, is rejection of Christian love.
As I said the bible rejects adultery and same sex lifestyle as much as it does homophobia, racism and all other forms of hatred.

Please explain to me, in your own words, what exactly is homophobia? Indeed, I know the semantics of the word, but I'm getting awfully sick of hearing people, predominately liberals, use it as a way to insult anyone who does not support homosexual activism. One hundred percent of the time they use the word incorrectly.

I assure you, I do not fear anything about homosexuality. I disapprove of it and find it to be wholly repulsive. I also have the same outlook on things such as pedophilia, broccoli, and some types of cats. I however do not fear any one of those things. I have no fear of pedophiles, broccoli, or cats. In fact, I do eat broccoli from time to time as disgusting as I find it, and I have taken care of my grandma's cats many times when she goes on vacation (as disgusting as I find them), and quite compassionately if I do say so myself. Never once, when encountering any of these things, including gay people, whom I surrounded by on a regular basis at college, have I had even the slightest shred, twitch, or inkling of fear.

Not liking something is not the same as being afraid of it. Disapproving something is not the same as being afraid of it. Finding something gross is not the same as being afraid of it.

I swear, the next time I hear somebody call me a homophobe for not supporting gay marriage, I might lose it.

I assure you, I do not fear anything about homosexuality. I disapprove of it and find it to be wholly repulsive. I also have the same outlook on things such as pedophilia, broccoli, and some types of cats.

I swear, the next time I hear somebody call me a homophobe for not supporting gay marriage, I might lose it.

Found it! Comparing pedophile to homosexuality is homophobic. Comparing broccoli to pedophilia is just, well...intriguing.

While i understand that both are clearly sin (homophobia and homosexuality) the two acts are as different as premarital sex and rape. While sin in ofitself is repulsive, surely you will agree that some sin is more repulsive than others. For example telling one's mother to shut up is awful but its not as bad as killing one's mother

Given that I have not seen a transcript of the speech or extensive quotes from it, I'm not sure I can judge it. However, if his point was that the Bible inspires intolerance toward gay people that fosters an environment in which they are likely to be bullied, I think he is correct.

As Christians, we are not required to inspire tolerance towards homosexuality...

We use the Cardinal rules of prudence, justice, temperance and courage. Tolerance is a term the relativists use -an ideal of its own.

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religion is the highest school of thought. It isnt a security blanket -it is a platform that allows us to reach beyond the restrictiveness of science, politics and philosophy. There is no other framework of logic that can reach farther.

Please explain to me, in your own words, what exactly is homophobia? Indeed, I know the semantics of the word, but I'm getting awfully sick of hearing people, predominately liberals, use it as a way to insult anyone who does not support homosexual activism. One hundred percent of the time they use the word incorrectly.

I assure you, I do not fear anything about homosexuality. I disapprove of it and find it to be wholly repulsive. I also have the same outlook on things such as pedophilia, broccoli, and some types of cats. I however do not fear any one of those things. I have no fear of pedophiles, broccoli, or cats. In fact, I do eat broccoli from time to time as disgusting as I find it, and I have taken care of my grandma's cats many times when she goes on vacation (as disgusting as I find them), and quite compassionately if I do say so myself. Never once, when encountering any of these things, including gay people, whom I surrounded by on a regular basis at college, have I had even the slightest shred, twitch, or inkling of fear.

Not liking something is not the same as being afraid of it. Disapproving something is not the same as being afraid of it. Finding something gross is not the same as being afraid of it.

I swear, the next time I hear somebody call me a homophobe for not supporting gay marriage, I might lose it.

Aah,aah aah... Temperance is a virtue.

(just teasing).

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religion is the highest school of thought. It isnt a security blanket -it is a platform that allows us to reach beyond the restrictiveness of science, politics and philosophy. There is no other framework of logic that can reach farther.

Found it! Comparing pedophile to homosexuality is homophobic. Comparing broccoli to pedophilia is just, well...intriguing.

While i understand that both are clearly sin (homophobia and homosexuality) the two acts are as different as premarital sex and rape. While sin in ofitself is repulsive, surely you will agree that some sin is more repulsive than others. For example telling one's mother to shut up is awful but its not as bad as killing one's mother

I disagree in part. A pedophile who lives a chaste life is better than a homosexual who acts out with no remorse... Just say'n.

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religion is the highest school of thought. It isnt a security blanket -it is a platform that allows us to reach beyond the restrictiveness of science, politics and philosophy. There is no other framework of logic that can reach farther.

I disagree in part. A pedophile who lives a chaste life is better than a homosexual who acts out with no remorse... Just say'n.

A pedophile who lives a chaste life is a contradiction in terms. By definition, a pedophile is one who uses, or has used, a child for sexual gratification. Pedophilia is not a sexual orientation, it's a mental disorder with no known treatment modality at this time, as far as I know.

A pedophile who lives a chaste life is a contradiction in terms. By definition, a pedophile is one who uses, or has used, a child for sexual gratification. Pedophilia is not a sexual orientation, it's a mental disorder with no known treatment modality at this time, as far as I know.

Homosexuality is not.

Only God gets to judge who is "better" or "worse."

Not true, a pedophile is one who has a disorder of sexual preference towards children... A child molester is one who has sexually abused a child, however some child molesters are not true pedophiles. Other motives for the child molester might be "stress, marital problems, or the unavailability of an adult partner."... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophile

In any case, I still stand by my post... A chaste pedophile is less sinful (better) than an active non-remorseful homosexual.

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religion is the highest school of thought. It isnt a security blanket -it is a platform that allows us to reach beyond the restrictiveness of science, politics and philosophy. There is no other framework of logic that can reach farther.

Any bullying is wrong period. "Love thy neighbor." Protecting kids is not agenda.

What about bullying a pedophile..?

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religion is the highest school of thought. It isnt a security blanket -it is a platform that allows us to reach beyond the restrictiveness of science, politics and philosophy. There is no other framework of logic that can reach farther.

Not true, a pedophile is one who has a disorder of sexual preference towards children...

No, it really is not. Most pedophiles are heterosexual males. Pedophilia is a diagnosable mental disorder, not a sexual orientation. Homosexuality is not a mental disorder.

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A child molester is one who has sexually abused a child, however some child molesters are not true pedophiles.

I have no idea why you believe this, but it is, by definition, legal and medical, not correct. All who sexually molest children are pedophiles. One might keep himself under control and show his true nature with stress, that doesn't make him not a pedophile. How long would you have to be "without a partner" before you found a 12 year old or younger enticing? How much stress would there have to be?

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In any case, I still stand by my post... A chaste pedophile is less sinful (better) than an active non-remorseful homosexual.

Any bullying is wrong period. "Love thy neighbor." Protecting kids is not agenda.

Well, yes it can be. We hear people justifying all manner of wickedness under the rubric of "think of the children!" I recall the case of Brenden Wagner (sp?). He is a high school student in Wisconsin and his school newspaper asked him to write the "con" side in pro/con article about same sex marriage. He got hauled before the assistant principal and was berated and threatened for hours on end. When you look at these anti-bullying campaigns, it is clear that Brenden's experience is not the kind of bullying these guys are interested in fighting. Anti-bullying is code, and not very deep code at that, for homosexual normalization.

Some of you may recall like I do the height of Politcal Correctness in the '90's. There we watched as college campuses across the country capitulated to ludicrous harrasment policies that included things like the accused not being able to confront accusers or even know the full nature of the charge against him. Well, high school and elementary school was always a little harder to crack. Sure, plenty of moonbattery has invaded here, but since parents were usually alot closer to and personally involved in the schools, they could always rally the troops when things got out of hand. Anti-bullying provides progressives with the Trojan horse they have always been looking for. Bullying is largely unsolvable by programs because not only does it take place out of sight of adult authority, but also because of the unwritten yet intractable no-squealing code among youth. But that makes it perfect because there is no end to the intrusions into schools with ideological social engineering to be had in the name of fighting it.