Since DUO was accused of starting to many threads on gay topics, I'll start one. The Sioux City Journal (I grew up there) devoted the whole front page to bullying after a gay kid in a nearby town committed suicide after bullying. www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/22/iowa-p...

And there are still people who deny that bullying leads gay teens to commit suicide.

I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard was not what I meant...

And some people will continue to try using the misery and suicides of young people to try to drive an agenda, and shame those who might disagree with them on similar, but ultimately unrelated, topics into silence.

And some people will continue to try using the misery and suicides of young people to try to drive an agenda, and shame those who might disagree with them on similar, but ultimately unrelated, topics into silence.

Which I find repulsive.

Interesting, you find someone talking about an important topic repulsive but not the fact that kids are, and have been, bullied into committing suicide. And again with the sweeping generalizations and ad hominems.

An agenda is not always a bad thing. An agenda that includes stopping children from being bullied is a good one.

Dave - Just a Man in the Mountains.

There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge. Isaac Asimov

And some people will continue to try using the misery and suicides of young people to try to drive an agenda, and shame those who might disagree with them on similar, but ultimately unrelated, topics into silence.

Which I find repulsive.

Interesting, you find someone talking about an important topic repulsive but not the fact that kids are, and have been, bullied into committing suicide. And again with the sweeping generalizations and ad hominems.

An agenda is not always a bad thing. An agenda that includes stopping children from being bullied is a good one.

You did when you complained about someone mentioning it instead of actually addressing the topic. Children, grade school children, are being bullied because someone believes them to be gay. Some of those children have committed suicide. That is a problem and any "agenda" that includes putting an end to that is a good one.

Dave - Just a Man in the Mountains.

There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge. Isaac Asimov

And some people will continue to try using the misery and suicides of young people to try to drive an agenda, and shame those who might disagree with them on similar, but ultimately unrelated, topics into silence.

Meanwhile, my fervent hope is that some day you will realize that the only "agenda" we "drive" is equality before the law. (You remember, that thing all people are supposed to be guaranteed.) Treat us equally, and the issue goes away.

And some people will continue to try using the misery and suicides of young people to try to drive an agenda, and shame those who might disagree with them on similar, but ultimately unrelated, topics into silence.

Meanwhile, my fervent hope is that some day you will realize that the only "agenda" we "drive" is equality before the law. (You remember, that thing all people are supposed to be guaranteed.) Treat us equally, and the issue goes away.

Sorry you find equality "repulsive".

Many people do find equality repulsive.

A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon devotion to religion. Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a ruler whom they consider god-fearing and pious. On the other hand, they do less easily move against him, believing that he has the gods on his side. AristotleNever discourage anyone...who continually makes progress, no matter how slow. Plato.."A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives" Jackie Robinson

You did when you complained about someone mentioning it instead of actually addressing the topic. Children, grade school children, are being bullied because someone believes them to be gay. Some of those children have committed suicide. That is a problem and any "agenda" that includes putting an end to that is a good one.