Several conservative House Republican members are contemplating a plan to unseat Speaker John Boehner from his position on January 3, Breitbart News has exclusively learned. Staffers have compiled a detailed action plan that, if executed, could make this a reality.

The Republicans, both conservatives and more establishment members alike, are emboldened after the failure of Boehners fiscal cliff Plan B on Thursday evening. Dissatisfaction with Boehner is growing in the House Republican conference, but until now there hasnt been a clear path forward.

Those members and staffers requested anonymity from Breitbart News at this time to prevent retaliation from Boehner similar to what happened to those four members who were purged from their powerful committee assignments a few weeks ago. Their expressed concern is that if Boehner knew who they were, his adverse reaction toward them would be much more brutal than losing committee assignments, such as a primary challenge in 2014 by a leadership-sponsored candidate.

"Republicans need not worry about handing the Speakership over to Nancy Pelosi or some other Democrat in this process, either. Dont worry about Speaker Boehner losing GOP votes in a secret ballot, the House rule document compiled by staffers obtained by Breitbart News read.

It is still not possible for Pelosi to become Speaker even with 100 % of Democrats united behind her and a split GOP vote. The reason is to become Speaker it is not enough to win a plurality. One must win an absolute majority of all votes cast for an individual.

So even if all 201 Democrats vote Pelosi, Boehner gets 1 vote, and the remaining 233 Republicans each vote for a different individual, Pelosi does not win. Pelosi would need 218 to reach a majority of the 435 votes cast for an individual. Since Republicans have a 33 vote advantage in the House, the only way Pelosi wins is if 17 Boehner opponents affirmatively vote Pelosi or abstain rather than simply vote for an alternative candidate. Both these scenarios are easily avoided. The same argument applies if fewer than 435 Members show up to vote. The magic number would be less than 218 but Pelosi still cannot get there so long as there are more Republicans in the room than Democrats and they dont abstain or voter [sic] for her.

There’s talk of Ryan becoming Speaker, as sort of a bridge between the old guard worthless types and the Conservative hard liners, similar to when Dennis Hastert took over after Newt resigned. A hard liner should be Majority Leader. I’m for Tom Price.

I’d like to see a new speaker replace the committee chairs too, but I doubt that would happen. Boehner probably solidified the committees intentionally in case he was removed by the conservatives.

The Speaker does not have to be an elected House Member so the could elect West or Newt but I don’t believe that would ever happen. The more I hear from Louie Gohmert the more I like him and I think he would certainly be an advocate for Conservativism, the Constitution and the American people so he certainly doesn’t have a shot at it.

At the risk of stating the obvious, Boehner is not a leader. He’s just your garden variety politician.

He is tentative, equivocates and engages in the self-feating tactic of publically negotiating with himself. He needs to be replaced by someone capable of taking a consistent and principled stand, driving the narrative, and energizing his troops. He simply lacks the qualities necessary to lead at this crucial time in our history.

A strong leader would be a wonderful contrast to the weak, mendacious and indecisive Obama. Such a leader would significantly help the Republican brand, such as it is.

OK, as much as I have said I would never go to that septic pit, I’ll take it. First order of business: letter to Obama...not now, not ever. Second order of business...national press conference as second in the line to Presidency: “the games are over”....we pass a tax and spending bill now and send it over to freckless Harry by some form of conveyance meant to draw media coverage to show where the buck stops if nothing gets done on it...perhaps by elephant.

Who ever this “new” leader might be; so help me G-d, i never want to hear the following words uttered out of their mouths: “I look forward to working with the Democrats and the President...I'm sure we can find common ground.”

This should be a Tea Party Conservative! Oh, yes, and screw what Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, Karl Rove, and any of the other “smart” Establishment types think!

Constitutional type Scholars say that the Speaker does not need to be a member and this theory hasn't been tested.

Another name floated is Steve Forbes.

A part of me just for giggles would love to see that as everytime he mentions scrapping the code and going to a Flat Tax as it would raise the blood pressure of every leftist loon we could think of :-)....

You are lucky with him. We have Rick Scott who is not PR strong. Scott is going to lose the Governorship I predict, and fear of all fears is another term with jackass Charlie Crist! I am hating the GOP!

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posted on 12/22/2012 7:24:26 AM PST
by marygam
(I have extra ducktape for anyone who needs to wrap their head.)

1. Need to have somebody either in a “safe” seat. On principle, I would argue against having someone from outside the House, given that we should really have an elected official - more accountable (at least that’s the theory).

2. Bulldog personality. Won’t back down from any interviewer on any subject.
3. A communicator. Can present their vision in ‘soundbite’-sized phrases. An unfortunate part of the world we’re now in.
4. Someone not inclined to start running for President any time soon.

At the risk of stating the obvious, Boehner is not a leader. Hes just your garden variety politician.

And he certainly in NOT a negotiator - he has no clue. He is negotiating with himself for crying out loud. Anyone that has negotiated anything knows this is folly - everyone in their life has negotiated a car salesman in their life.

I knew we were in deep trouble back in his first negotiation for the CR in 2011, then followed by the debt ceiling deal. White Hut trespasser is playing this time to DESTROY THE GOP, AND IMHO I BELIEVE HE WILL SUCCEED.

The strategy in the house should be to systematically oppose/obstruct the entire Obama agenda. Working together with Obama will not make Republicans any more popular with the electorate. But when the economy nosedives, everyone will share the blame. Republicans should just oppose everything and take the heat that will come from the MSM as a badge of honor.

Bachmann would be Obama’s worst nightmare. She is smart and just won a tough race after getting redistricted by the democrats in a deep blue state. She is exactly what we need right now.

The strategy in the house should be to systematically oppose/obstruct the entire Obama agenda. Working together with Obama will not make Republicans any more popular with the electorate. But when the economy nosedives, everyone will share the blame. Republicans should just oppose everything and take the heat that will come from the MSM as a badge of honor.

Bachmann would be Obama’s worst nightmare. She is smart and just won a tough race after getting redistricted by the democrats in a deep blue state. She is exactly what we need right now.

Republicans should just oppose everything and take the heat that will come from the MSM as a badge of honor.

Reagan did it, and the American people loved him for it. His presidency was historical. The man took 49 states!He was polite, upbeat, stuck to the subject, stuck to his principals, and defeated their Alinski tactics every time because of it. That's all it takes.

Republicans should just oppose everything and take the heat that will come from the MSM as a badge of honor.

Personally, I think the Pubbies in the House, should offer, and pass, a tax cut for everyone and pass it to the Senate and see what happens.

Surely, the Senate and the Bowmeister wouldn't object to a tax cut for everyone, would they? If they objected and wouldn't put it to a vote, well then, the Bush tax RATES go by the wayside and everyone gets a tax increase. Just sayin'...

If this path is followed then let’s hope that it is not like the vote in 2006 where the republicans sh*t the bed big time by not supporting the most effective majority leader (Shadegg) in place of the most popular (Boehner). Smart money says that the republicans will drop the ball, yet, once again.

we pass a tax and spending bill now and send it over to freckless Harry by some form of conveyance meant to draw media coverage to show where the buck stops if nothing gets done on it...perhaps by elephant.

The GOP House desperately needs to draw the line at continuing this sham of a budget "process" where last year's departmental budgets are automatically expanded by X or Y% and the House and Senate have no responsibility.

A new Speaker would be advised to pass a tax & spennding measure, send it to the Senate...and go into recess. Once the Senate acted on the bill and an "as amended" version was ready for Conference Committee, the House would then go back into session and a proper budget would emerge.

Given the specifications in the Constitution, the House would be fully justified in taking such drastic action -- and the GOP would benefit from the cause celebre they had created.

“It is still not possible for Pelosi to become Speaker even with 100 % of Democrats united behind her and a split GOP vote. The reason is to become Speaker it is not enough to win a plurality. One must win an absolute majority of all votes cast for an individual.”

True, but a few weeks ago a self-proclaimed conservativ leader was calling on Republican Representatives to abstain, thinking that if 15 or so abstained it would prevent Boehner from winning and force Republicans to nominate a new Speaker. But unless they vote for someone else instead of abstaining, Boener would be elected Speaker; and if 32+ abstained, Pelosi would be elected Speaker.

It would be easier to convince conservatives dissatisfied with Boehner to abstain than to vote for someone else (except for Paulistinians such as Amash, Bentivolio and Massie, who probably vote for their cult leader L. Ron Paul). So unless someone steps up and runs for Speaker, and can convince 15+ Republicans to vote for him, Boehner would be reelected Speaker. (And if some Democrats abstain instead of voting for Pelosi—think McIntyre and Matheson—then the insurgent Republican would need to peel off even more votes to prevent Boehner from winning.)

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