While the State exists, there can be no freedom. When there is freedom there will be no State.Lenin, "State and Revolution", 1919Russian Communist politician & revolutionary (1870 - 1924)In
a featured column on flashreport.org, Grover Norquist clarifies and
defends the default conservative position, making clear that any vote to
send tax increases to the ballot is a violation of the taxpayer
protection pledge. Further he publicly admonishes any Republican pledge
signer who has any doubt about the consequence of wavering: “There is
nothing subjective about the determination that voting to refer higher
taxes to the ballot is a violation of the taxpayer protection pledge. A
vote for tax hikes on the ballot is clearly and indisputably a failure
to ‘oppose and vote against any and all efforts to raise taxes’”
(“Featured Column”).

http://soupsauntieoxymoron.blogspot.com/2011/07/simple-question-for-conservatives-in.htmlSaturday, July 16, 2011"A Simple Question For Conservatives in General, Signatories in ParticularThe
ATR pledge is signed in front of two witnesses, making it legally
binding...and hollow, for a government with no revenue AT ALL (as
demanded by pledge), even if DC burns)...cannot enforce property rights
or the peaceable transfer of power. Will you ever address this
fundamental question of your philosophy?"

Robert Thomas EricksonOkay
okay hahah... referring to those who defend liberty as "Lee and his
cronies"... that's about the opposite of cronyism. Cronyism is a grab
for power, away from the people, centralizing it in the power of the
state.

And in regards to your second post, you do not need a centralized aggressively coercive state to enforce property rights.

Soup McGeecrony:Crony - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionarywww.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cronya
close friend especially of long standing : pal · See crony defined for
English-language learners ». See crony defined for kids » .

http://soupsauntieoxymoron.blogspot.com/2011/07/simple-question-for-conservatives-in.htmlSaturday, July 16, 2011"A Simple Question For Conservatives in General, Signatories in ParticularThe
ATR pledge is signed in front of two witnesses, making it legally
binding...and hollow, for a government with no revenue AT ALL (as
demanded by pledge), even if DC burns)...cannot enforce property rights
or the peaceable transfer of power. Will you ever address this
fundamental question of your philosophy?"

Robert Thomas Erickson>"The
ATR pledge is signed in front of two witnesses, making it legally
binding...and hollow, for a government with no revenue AT ALL (as
demanded by pledge), even if DC burns)...cannot enforce property rights
or the peaceable transfer of power. Will you ever address this
fundamental question of your philosophy?"

I'm not sure if I can answer this appropriately, as it is directed at conservatives, a group of which I am not a member.

However,
my personal philosophy contradicts both the legitimacy and necessity of
the state, thereby answering the question. Government needs not exist
for enforcement of property rights.

Soup McGeeYou
sir, appear to be an idiot. Tell me, How will we Peaceably Transfer
Power in a government-less, stateless society, lest your plan is to
replace it with theocracy? Tell me, I am DYING to know.

>"How
will we Peaceably Transfer Power in a government-less, stateless
society, lest your plan is to replace it with theocracy?"

First,
a theocracy is also a state, so I am opposed to that. However, the
solution is polycentric law. But I doubt you'd read a wall of text that I
would take my precious time typing up, so here's a video explaining it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kPyrq6SEL0

>"
-- do you question the legitimacy of the President? Is that what you
are typing, honestly, into a PUBLIC PHONE LINE? PAID for with TAXES?
Wowsers."

Yes,
because the majority of Americans not only didn't vote for Obama, but
they voted for no one. Why should the opinions of a few oppress the
inherent liberty of the many?

No, I'm not on a "PUBLIC PHONE LINE", I'm on a privately owned internet service provider.

Robert Thomas EricksonAlso,
"private property" now is severely taxed by the government, making it
owned only partially by the individual. So no, I do not support the
current system of private property.

Soup McGeeweird,
dude. weird. So America is not your country then? You despise the state
in every form; is Barack Obama in defiance of the Constitution, or the
Constitution just another piece of paper to you? You make no sense; you
will NEVER live in a stateless society, not as long as the flag flies,
brodie.

SOUP-- because advocating for a stateless society makes ANY sense. Dude. You have to admit America will not suddenly cease to exist, no matter how much you hate America. Productive debate? With someone who starts from the position that the entity that saved my life from a horrible infancy is illegitimate? Well fuck that. I don't want productive debate with People like you who Hate America; I want your positions Loud and Clear for the world to hear!

Thursday, May 23, 2013

"President
Obama on Thursday will deliver a speech at the National Defense
University, in which he is expected to continue his defensive efforts.
This time he is expected to reveal the ways in which he will make the
drone program more transparent, promise to move most or all of the parts
run by the CIA to the less-secretive military, and increase
Congressional oversight. Meanwhile he has greatly cut back the program:
there have only been 12 drone strikes in Pakistan this year, compared to
many scores in previous ones, with similarly sharp cut backs in other
regions such as Yemen. "

"There
would be no investigation," Cotton said during Wednesday's markup
hearing before the House Foreign Affairs Committee. "If the prime
malefactor of the family is identified as on the list for sanctions,
then everyone within their family would automatically come within the
sanctions regime as well. It'd be very hard to demonstrate and
investigate to conclusive proof."

Soup McGee"""“We
had some new members on the committee, and we knew the press would be
very aggressive on this, so we didn’t want any of them to make
mistakes,” Rep. C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger (Md.) said last week of his
request in an account supported by Republican participants. “We didn’t
want to jeopardize sources and methods, and we didn’t want to tip off
the bad guys. That’s all.”

What
Petraeus decided to do with that request is the pivotal moment in the
controversy over the administration’s Benghazi talking points. It was
from his initial input that all else flowed, resulting in 48 hours of
intensive editing that congressional Republicans cite as evidence of a
White House coverup."""""" Ooooops.

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While the State exists, there can be no freedom. When there is freedom there will be no State.Lenin, "State and Revolution", 1919Russian Communist politician & revolutionary (1870 - 1924)In a featured column on flashreport.org, Grover Norquist clarifies and defends the default conservative position, making clear that any vote to send tax increases to the ballot is a violation of the taxpayer protection pledge. Further he publicly admonishes any Republican pledge signer who has any doubt about the consequence of wavering: “There is nothing subjective about the determination that voting to refer higher taxes to the ballot is a violation of the taxpayer protection pledge. A vote for tax hikes on the ballot is clearly and indisputably a failure to ‘oppose and vote against any and all efforts to raise taxes’” (“Featured Column”).

...(...)...In Response to Kings essay on Meeting Oppression---:  King states that he favors nonviolent resistance over the other two ways of meeting oppression. Look closely at the words he uses to describe nonviolent resistance and those he uses to describe acquiescence and violence. How does his choice of words contribute to his argument? Show examples.The weakness of giving in and submitting to an immoral authority is that you make yourself inferior by choice, and this is the choice of a “coward.” This is the nature of man craving inferiority because he is still filled with “falsehood, malice, hate [and] destruction.” All is not lost; nobility is reached in the practice of nonviolence. Because all men of good will are indeed bound together, asserts the Reverend, a conscience educated to the consequences of violence or acquiescence will turn away from the inferior position (the weakness of man is to give in or fight with force) and toward the superior position (the strength of man lies in his nonviolent reaction to oppression).

Why do you suppose King discusses acquiescence, violence, and non-violent resistance in that order?The consequences of each failure are staggered so as to outline clearly for the reader the reality of each successive failure. As individual bitterness becomes community discontent, the oppressed must be cautious as their calls for justice escalate. When the choice is made-unbeknownst to anyone until the choice is made- it must be for nonviolence, or the line will become a circle again. That choice is both individual and community, so each of us must be aware of our nature.

...(...)... Please forgive my "Show Your Work" Style.

I am not a Socialist, a hippie looking for a hand-out, or a lazy hypocrite. I want to pay taxes so I have something to vote about. I believe my paying taxes entitles me to support those who are using their Constitutional Rights of Redress (first amendment)and demanding that America admit She is not Broken. Those who say She is need say no more! I prefer Democracy over Theonomy. I am not fighting Capitalism, only ignorance and those who hate America. I Demand A Redress as Guaranteed by the Constitution!

The richest four hundred families, jointly owning the majority of the most profitable corporations and in their sixth or seventh generation of landed gentry are depending on a Third Wave of Reformation in Christianity and a voting bloc determined to end Democracy's Evil Hold On God's Sphere of Authority (Rj Rushdoony, etc.). Having disguised themselves as American, their ultimate goal is to soon separate us from our primary rights. Through the manipulation of media backed by corporate funding, they seek to influence the government to create hysteria such that the people will Want to or find they Have replace civil law with biblical law- regardless of the fact that it violates the First Amendment- by imposing the theory of theonomy. Those one-tenth of one percent that own the 40 percent or so of America’s printed money and access to all the keys of the Kingdom ARE the Corporatocracy we are Fighting. Same fight. Not a different fight.

The problem for All groups, as the Revolting Randian Calvinist Class sees it, is government. You have the right to be your own state and gave to the government by will alone- otherwise, the gov is only a gang, and those opposed to it are a family. This is according to them, not me...so...

Grover believes gov. taxes by force, and builds coalitions-

I Pledge Allegiance To the Flag. Full Stop. Please Get Your Elected Official On The Record re: Authority...

Man Has Authority to govern Man, the Dominionist Believes Only God Has Authority- they hold the Constitution as Biblically based and allow local law to become “theonomic” ---this TREASON---this is the reason for my animus. Christianity has Become an argument against itself by supplanting the Authority of the Document We share, believer and non-believer alike. End the Pledge. End the Influence.Tax the Church.Get the Money out of elections.End Corporate Personhood.Same fight.

I hope readers are following their own trail---this is an archive (soupsauntie) designed to position stories in a way that allow MY further investigation— ‎,"No, it's a messy soup...fair enough. It's Google Search results, pasted from my Facebook Page (posted as status updates so I know where and when I read something)", and this is to allow anyone to see how I came across the info (not by biased searches but by multiple sources and key words) followed by pasted source material. This, of course, would be helpful info for the 'About' section there...:-/ :-)"

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