and replace the savings so it wouldn't add tothedeficitbyincreasing some government fees and perhaps requiring a higher contribution from federal workers for their retirement program and maybe about a 65 to $70 billion deal. it wouldn't be a deficit reduction deal, but it would, it would be an agreement on the level of discretionary spending or the appropriations bills for the next one or two years. >> host: and talk to us about scale. is the a large deal? is it a small deal if how does this kind of fit in our range of options? >> guest: this is not what you would call a grand bargain. it's a small deal. they deliberately set a pretty modest target because they thought something more ambitious wouldn't get done. so in the effort of finding some sort of an agreement for this year, this year's appropriations level and possibly it looks like next year's, they would just target that and see if they could reach an agreement on that, and that's kind of where we're headed. >> host: talking about the prospects for a budget deal this morning with the concord coalition's bob bixby. if you'd li

that was quite worrying, the good news regarding thefiscaldeficitisonly cyclical. get us growth slowdown going forward, we might not see the fiscal contraction of the deficit that we really need. essentially our spending habit 's have not changed that much. we have been in austerity for so long, it was a shame that it was not more structural change. >> what does it mean for sterling capitol when you look at the top 10 currencies. this is against the other nine. can its strength continue. >> it depends on the bank of england. if it threatens the inflation target of two percent, we have target. inflation and this could force the hand because the strong pound could all of a sudden having a real problem of their policy. now, there is a real threat of that sum will push this into deflationary territory. is that real concern for the bank of england? >> it is not on their forecasts at the moment that we have seen such a huge appreciation of sterling already. at 164 level does look very sticky. it will take a little to push us up there. if we were to see a 500 moving. >> thank you. we will get h

of a government shutdown in january. but it would provide littlelong-termdeficitreductionand there remains a sticking point over unemployment benefits and republicans don't believe the democrats are entirely serious about that. it's come up late in the process. not sure if the white house is going to insist on that happening. another potential sticking point may be whether or not there's any long term deficit reduction in the deal if they just raised the sequester caps and substitute one set of cuts for the other, there wouldn't be deficit reduction. there's some talk that the revenue components would be dedicated to deficit reduction. but we have to wait and see happens next week. this congress is unpredictable. >> house defense chairman buck mccann, he wants $20 billion more, because defense gets killed in the sequestration. he has defense hawks that will vote against it if they don't get their $20 billion and that means john boehner doesn't have 218 votes. >> he may not have 218 votes, but look, any accommodation you make like that from -- to assist the defense is going to squeeze the o

is a healthy and urbanization, but we did haveadeficit. oneof the challenges to address was to know longer have a deficit. it created an entity that would enable a structure that would enable one to receive money, and those who gave money to get tax deductions was key. so we got a new irs status, c3 charitable foundation, and we also received chi museum.s the nogu prior to that, the noguchi foundation which was the museum was a program of. >> how would you describe the work of noguchi to those are not familiar with this culture or art? york, mother was from new his father was japanese. he called himself a global artist at the time. it was before the motions of multiculturalism and biracial. he was born in 1904. he was extraordinarily prolific in that he worked in parks, landscapes. he was a precursor to all of the artists that went on to be known as earthwork artists. he did parks, playgrounds, theater curtains, theater sets. he had an association with martha graham for 50 years. many people do not realize the big stainless steel piece in rockefeller center, which is in the building, he di

of bryce is in fighting the new fighters stockpiles are growing and so was thegovernment'sdeficit. itsaid to have reached a deal in dollars around ten percent off the nation's budget. some feel there is a strong need to change the political environment for this financial burden. it's not passed to his students generation. that is why he decided to join in the demonstrations along with his co the us. you see the government is injecting taxpayer money into its political base in rural areas women. government officials to change the way they spend our money. to be used to improve the lives of all the time people the day the day the more the one gal worked at the country's transport ministry the thirty six year old fisher writes history demonstrations during his lunch break. he says he fell extremely angry when the government tried to pass a bill that would pardon former prime minister talks to the feel of what's been sentenced to prison the person who's committed wrongdoing by many to reading votes in parliament should get off scot free. it's not acceptable. not in a country that sup

about that next in the next segment. . >> a relentlesslygrowingdeficitofopportunity is a bigger threat to our future than our rapidly shrinking fiscal deficit. >> the president on wednesday speaking at the center for american progress. he talked about invoking the fast food workers, liberal economists writing in the new york times responded by writing finally our political class has spent years obsessed which a fake problem worrying about debt and deficits that never pose a threat to the nation's future, showing no interest in stag nateing wages. mr. obama i'm sorry to say bought into that diversion. now, however, he is moving on. isaac, do you share that reading that paul had, two, three years ago, everybody in washington was old souls on a deficit reduction including the president, himself, now even president obama is showing publicly an inclination to show that warren style populism. >> i think the rhetoric has changed. just to go back to the last seg him, jonathan was saying the tea party has people in washington. there is elizabeth warren. i think if it's going to come, it'

theirbudgetdeficittargets.the brussels, frankfurt, berlin group will be trying to force them to comply. >> charles dumas, staying with us. >>> coming up on today's show, let me tell you what's ahead. taper talks go into overdrive as markets await the u.s. jobs report. but as experts look at last month's numbers, we assess how this could affect strategy. >>> and capital markets dry up in the sector, we'll discuss where to find value at 1020 cet. >>> the race is on to name asia pacific's number one tech hub. we'll take a look at the fastest growth technology firms. >>> and world cup fever hangs in the balance as nations find out who they are playing. we'll discuss the travel implications at 1045 cet. ya know, with new fedex one rate you can fill that box and pay one flat rate. how naughty was he? oh boy... [ male announcer ] fedex one rate. simple, flat rate shipping with the reliability of fedex. >>> deal or no deal? the wto is trying to reach an agreement. >> the right to food security of the poor people, then only they will be saved. strengthening of wto is a shared responsibility of

washington post" says it would roll back some of the cuts and take action to reducethedeficits. overallit may not be the grand bargain some were hoping for. negotiators have been trying to find common ground since october as part of the grooemted thagre end the government shutdown. >>> so south africa. the nation and the world gather to remember nelson mandela. sunday was a national day of prayer in south africa with millions paying their respects to the former president. the preparations are now under way for a memorial service that will bring dozens of world leaders, including president obama, to south africa starting today. robin kurnow is outside mandela's home this morning. you've just spoken to one of his closest confidants. what did she say? >> we are hearing for the first time what is going on inside this house behind me. the home where nelson mandela died. we have been seeing a lot of people coming outside in the past few days laying flowers, paying their respects. we understand according to african tradition, nelson mandela's wife is sitting on a mattress in the living room i

when federal employees have disproportionately contributed tothedeficitreductionefforts to date. over $140 billion of the deficit reduction efforts over the last couple of years have come from federal employees. >> and you represent a lot thoefz federal employees, so is that a deal breaker for you? >> absolutely. you cannot be asking federal employees to bear the share of the burden that they're asking for here as part of an agreement when you're not asking, for example, agri businesses that get huge taxpayer subsidies to have a contribution toward the deal. so we should be replacing the sequester. i've had a piece of legislation in to do that for three years. we've tried to get a vote on it and have been denied. but as we do that, you can't take this out on just one segment of individuals. you've got to have equitiy in this. so there are lots of things that are still up in the air as part of this negotiation. >> including unemployment benefits. and i want to play the republican argument from senator rand paul against an extension. here it is. >> a do support unemployment benefi

would push off demandsfordeficitcutting.the president has saidthedeficitshouldtake a back seat to jobs right now. there are also tense negotiations over cutting hiking security fees. and lawmakers also talking about partially repealing the sequester spending cuts. proposals to extend jobless benefits for the long term unemployed have also hit a snag. the president says those benefits are critical for many families, and he pushed the gop on that issue this weekend. >> for many families, it can be the difference between hardship and catastrophe. last year alone, it lifted 2.5 million people out of poverty. and cushioned the blow for many more. but here's the thing. if members of congress don't act before they leave on their vacations, 1.3 million americans will lose this lifeline. >> did you hear that? there might have been a little shade there for republicans on the hill. they are giving themselves another long vacation starting friday. on the other hand, some conservatives now say opposing unemployment benefits is their way of helping the unemployed. >> i do support unemploymen

. you're right. they have a big currentaccountdeficit. ifand when we see a beg effect on tapering, we may see them suffer. >> violence with the mines. this is a nation that has a lot of questions open. >> absolutely. he didn't solve everything but certainly i think things could have been far worse. >> and also the metamorphosis just as gorbachev was changing the world as well. >> he shifted in four years. the castro bothers, 50 years, they still haven't. >> it's nice seeing you down here. >> you, too. >> as massive ice storm is moving across the country bringing freezing rain, snow, sleet and jim cantore joins us. >> reporter: thank you very much. normally in the east the sun comes back up and it warms up and everything melts. unfortunately it's only going to get colder. this morning we started out at 30 degrees and now it's all frozen and the same this evening is happening on the road. you'll notice the cake and the glaze, you have to pry this off. the salt and sand trucks are dealing with the main there owe fair -- thoroughfares. but mass transit, about a thousand fights in and out

cutting benefits to cover a $100billliondeficit. unionsare planning a fight. and starbucks is out with a fancy shmancy metal gift card...that costs $450 dollars. it goes on sale at noon est today at gilt.com. only 1,000 are available. tim mulholland of china america capital joins us now from the trading floor he's getting set for the jobs number coming out today. will we see jobs on the rise? > >given the adp report, the gdp report, the initial claims earlier this week and yesterday i think expectations are for a strong number. so that's what the market's expecting. i think an expected number of 185 will be considered good. if it's a stronger number than expected, above 200, bonds sell off in this anticipation of tapering. but i think we're still along ways off of that. i also think we need to consider if it's a weaker than expected number i think that fears of any early tapering are off the table and maybe we'll be off to the races again in the equity markets will continue quantitative easing and stimulus in the market. > >what else could we see as far as market reaction today?

pill. a big hit to government spending but a sharp improvement inthedeficittogdp ratio. we do not have to swallow the pill again in 2014. we have reset government spending out lower levels. we did not have to do it all over again. makes for pretty easy comparison year-over-year when you compare 2014 to 2013. sex we are running less of a deficit. that is good news. what if you drill down and talk thet individuals? >> it is verge because of the wealth effect. rising. have been consumers are at the upper end of the spectrum and have been really getting the benefit of higher net worth. here is net worth as a percent of disposable income. we have seen very sharp improvement that is driving the spending we are seeing in the economy. >> in other words, the total net worth is 600% of what you make. if you make 100,000, you are worth 600,000? >> exactly. s&p is up. equities are up. general home price valuations are up. we have been covering a lot of the lost wealth. five years after the financial crisis, we have recovered a lot of the wealth. the dominant theme for spending in 2014. >>

the government, folks with thenationaldeficitdroppingat its fastest rate in 60 years? it is time to stop the obsession with deficits and start an obsession about middle-class job creation. >> well, governor granholm, i'm going to give the president credit for these numbers -- >> stop the presses -- >> but this nation is still woefully unemployed. he has to take credit for that, too. i know his numbers could not have come at a better time for an administration that's had a rough couple months. in the crossfire tonight, a pair of economic experts, david madlin director of the american worker project for the center of political progress. >> and david, let me start with you. even though this morning's jobs numbers sound rea

-- if you want to keepadeficittheway it is, you need to find some way to save money elsewhere if you're going to boost spending for the next two years which is what they're talking about. they're talking about cutting spending over a longer time frame in other areas. one area they might ask federal employees to pay a little more for their pension plans. another possible rumored area is they might hike the fees for airline security. now we don't know the exact details of these, and in some ways that's actually a good sign. the fact that a lot of these proposals aren't really leaking in their specifics means that the talks are still ongoing and that they're still productive and you know, a couple of people have said, once you start hearing these damaging leaks about oh, this isn't it or democrats are proposing this that's when things are falling apart. >> brad let me ask you, what are the chances of this deal as it's taking shape now passing both chambers, i'm particularly talking about the house, if you talk about fees that's easily construed as a tax. >> the house is a tricky part. t

if the challenge issuccessful,deficitspendingcould be reduced by $700 billion in the next decade he's here to explain it. oklahoma attorney general, scott pruitt. mr. attorney general, can you breakdown the law for us? >> good evening, sean. one of the things have you to recognize when congress pass add fordable care act, they recognized importance of the states in rolling out exchanges we see y they've not done a good job of it and knew they cannot commandeer or require the state to impose changes. the subsidy goes you through health care exchanges. 34 states came in and said no, irs said we'll fix that and says subsidies with exchanges. so our lawsuit is making sure the letter of the law is complied with >> but the law didn't say. that the law, in other words gave you the option, did it not? didn't say there would be penalties? >> right if there is no state health care insurance exchanges there are no subsidies. if there are no subsidies there are no penalties now, irs saying we're going assess the penalties whether state exchanges have been set up or not they're doing what they do often

purchases. we haveadeficitthatis following -- falling like a rock, and mortgage origination. the fed is not only a 500 pound gorilla in those markets, they are now the only gorilla in the jungle buying in those markets, and that is something they are concerned about as well. >> diane swonk, thank you for joining us. also, michael mckee, peter cook, and alix steel. we will be focused on this big drop we have seen in the jobless rate down to 7%. we will also get reactions to the jobs report from the ceo of pimco, mohamed el-erian, and the obama administration's reaction from labor secretary tom perez. ♪ >> well it seems like the whisper numbers were right. we got a huge surprise on the upside for jobs. to jobless rate went down 7%. i want to bring in someone who lives for jobs days. he loves these days because the data tells the story. tom keene is with us. you talk to bill gross. >> i want to make clear, this is a sport. just before the report i put out my last guess, and that was 200- 5000. >> who is bragging now? >> it is not my point, it is drew matus at ubs nailing the unemploym

at present levels and to manage thebudgetdeficitwitha view to its continuous reduction. similarly, we are agreed that a permanently higher general level of taxation is to be avoided. to achieve these important objectives will require consistent discipline on the part of both the central and the provincial governments. furthermore, this disciplined approach will ensure that we integrate the objectives of our reconstruction and development plan within government expenditure and not treat them as incidental to the tasks of government, marginalised to the status of mere additions to the level of expenditure. there are major areas of desperate need in our society. as a signal of its seriousness to address these, the government will, within the next 100 days, implement various projects under the direct supervision of the president. let me briefly explain these. children under the age of six and pregnant mothers will receive free medical care in every state hospital and clinic where such need exists. [applause] similarly, a nutritional feeding scheme will be implemented in every primary scho

, loss of bladder continents, andthedeficitsoftreatment are currently outweighing the benefits. so that test is no longer recommended. the numbers are pretty clear that the overdiagnosed of early breast cancer happens in many cases as well, and there are a number of things that are being thertaken to try to improve situation clinically. from the point of view the national cancer institute, the thing we are trying to solve is the question of how we can take these early abnormalities and tests to kinds of distinguish between those that are likely to evolve into life- threatening illnesses and those beniare simply the nine -- gn abnormalities that would not cause serious symptoms or life- threatening situations had they not been detected. we're talking with leading researchers about their areas of expertise at the nih. dr. harold varmus is the director of the national cancer institutes. al is joining us from cambridge, ohio. caller: good morning. it is a pleasure to be able to talk to a doctor out here after working for 40 years at a good job but cannot seem to ever get to talk to a d

anddeficitspendingcan find, how are you going to get a balanced budget? we don't like the current economy, what i going to do to get us to grow at the rate we ought to? coming out of this deep of recession, we will be growing five or 6% a year. we should be pulling back into the middle class. we will be solving a lot of our problems by just the sheer dynamics of a recovery. we are getting none of that right now. don't just tell me which are getting. don't know what you're for. i've been to all too many campaigns in the last 15 years that have been negative, eddie, personality oriented and they think they don't show the country well and i don't think will solve our problems with that approach. i hope you will read "breakout" but if you agree with me that this was an important concept inhibiting the people who think in that line in future, think about prison guards of the pass, we could really begin a dialogue that is future past and is very powerful in terms of bringing many people together who wouldn't know my think they were on the same side and i would appreciate it if you decide the st

pittsburgh. he phil dent and that was the game-winner, they came back frommaydeficit. thefinal his five- storyscore was 5-3. >> just plain bad luck for the united states soccer team netherworld cup draw today. head coach jurgen klinnsman and his 14th ranked squad will first square off against ghana. a team that eliminated team usa in both the 2006 and 2010 world cups. >> tiger woods turn back the clock would 10 birdies spread was playing at one of his favorite courses, sherwood country club in thousand oaks. >>> "omg! insider," the top trending stories you need to know. >> i hope the world will never forget nelson mandela. >> remembering nelson mandela. >> the stars paying respects after his family and the world learned of his passing at the mandela movie premiere. >> extremely sad and tragic news. >> how the loss of the beloved leader is affecting hollywood. >> he proved what a difference one person can make. >>> new details on a fan memorial for paul walker. >> and who allegedly stole crash scene evidence then posted this disturbing photo. >>> then my new york tea with the "duck dynas

're talking about. becausethedeficitsarecoming down. because of the sequester they all want to get rid of. yeah, it really -- we start to go so far down the rabbit hole i need a pole to get some air down here. >> you need some air. get that guy a glass of water, quick. jim lowell, what are you doing to put money to work right now? >> let me give rick santelli a little bit of air. as a bow tie wearing yankee i'm used to being the skeptic in the room. i'm not worried at all. the u.s. consumer is in good shape. consumers across the pond, in the eurozone -- >> yeah, consumption and gdp was just off the charts, wasn't it? >> it was okay, rick. it's been okay -- >> okay is much different than good. >> grading on a curve. >> as long as that continues for real world investors and for my clients, we've been able to make significant gains. i certainly am not surprised by the pullback in the market. look, after heapings of gains it's only natural the market takes a little bit of a diet. the reality is going forward large cap, multinational blue chip, balance sheets look great. >> why doesn't the fed

trillions of dollars ofadditionaldeficitanddebt are good things for her. >> reporter: and our thanks to dana bash for that, reporting on the gop trying to woo more women voters. >>> all right. the fbi believes a letter was written and sent by a missing new hampshire teenager, abigail hernandez. she was last seen in october on her way home from school in the town of conway. well, abigail's mother received a letter a month ago. police won't talk about details in the letter, but say they are concerned for abigail's safety. adding that it is possible that she is being held against her will. >>> and while you were sleeping, u.s. defense secretary chuck hagel was on a military transport headed for an unannounced trip to afghanistan. he landed in kabul earlier this morning. is he there to thank the u.s. troops for their service and training afghan training forces, and he'll meet with his afghan counterpart to see if afghan troops are able to defend their own country. >>> as the world mourns the death of nelson mandela, tributes to south africa's first black president are pouring in that cou

, finding a little bitofdeficitreduction.here's the key thing to focus on, though, right now, alex. the tone. there doesn't seem to be an appetite for another government shutdown. that, of course, bodes well for the economy and washington in general. take a listen to what two lawmakers had to say earlier today. >> keep the budget caps in place, not raise taxes, which is important during this weak economy, and actually avoid a government shutdown. so i'm hopeful that even by the end of this week we'll be able to come together and achieve that. >> i certainly hope as part of it that the negotiators will take to heart what the president had to say. there are working families across america that are struggling. there are unemployed families who need a helping hand. we've got to protect and preserve the safety net in america and give these working families a fighting chance. >> so alex, of course there you have republican rob portman, democrat dick durbin. and you heard senator durbin talking about unemployment insurance. that is still the main sticking point. democrats, the president w

be a mix of fee revenues and pension cuts to help reducethedeficit, helpease the sequester. from reading the take the journal has, they're pretty close. there's some issues remaining, but it could come as early as next week. we still have people coming in and talking about -- >> you've read that headline before, joe. down to the last most difficult item. >> these are small items, though. we're not trying to do anything. i think both sides, we're agreeing to disagree. this would put us past the next election. we will be through another election to see -- you know, to get another chance to vote on it. >> yeah. >> in wall street news, reports say eddie lampert is facing an exodus to his hedge fund. lampert has reduced the reduction technique before. we should point out that just this morning, the news has become officials. lands' end, that spin-off that we've been talking about from some time for sears holding, it, look like the board needs to make a final stage, but sears holding has filed this registration statement saying it is looking to go ahead and spin off lands' end. the stage at th