This team has no identity in so many different ways. Are they skilled? No. Fast? No. Tough? No. With the loss of the Sedins, there are no leaders.

Then look at their jerseys. What are their team colours? Blue/green? Navy/red/grey? Black/yellow/red? Maroon/cream? Navy/red?

And what exactly is their logo anyways?

There are so many ways that this team only barely meets the definition of 'team'.

The leaders part tends to solve itself with the Sedins leaving, in fact I suspect a lot of the Canucks problems will start to solve themselves with that, the team has been a mirror of the Sedins, great players and class acts they are they have always been neither fast nor tough nor particularly 'intense' and the Canucks have been a reflection of that.

The leaders part tends to solve itself with the Sedins leaving, in fact I suspect a lot of the Canucks problems will start to solve themselves with that, the team has been a mirror of the Sedins, great players and class acts they are they have always been neither fast nor tough nor particularly 'intense' and the Canucks have been a reflection of that.

Except that they've pretty much carried whatever their team is for the last long while. It'll prob take a loooooonnngggg time to rebuild (I HOPE!!!!!!!)

The leaders part tends to solve itself with the Sedins leaving, in fact I suspect a lot of the Canucks problems will start to solve themselves with that, the team has been a mirror of the Sedins, great players and class acts they are they have always been neither fast nor tough nor particularly 'intense' and the Canucks have been a reflection of that.

Wut?

The Canucks do not have a reputation for being "class acts". The Sedins were seen as divers. The team frequently employed pests that refused to back up their antics. They became the most hated team in the league during their cup run...so hated people were cheering for Marchand.

That 2009-2012 Canucks team remains to this day the team I have hated the most in my life. The arrogance of the fan base was unbearable and they had so many players that were easy to hate. Gillis came across as the most pompous ####### going as well.

There pathetic team and bumbling GM are exactly what they deserve right now

The Canucks do not have a reputation for being "class acts". The Sedins were seen as divers. The team frequently employed pests that refused to back up their antics. They became the most hated team in the league during their cup run...so hated people were cheering for Marchand.

That 2009-2012 Canucks team remains to this day the team I have hated the most in my life. The arrogance of the fan base was unbearable and they had so many players that were easy to hate. Gillis came across as the most pompous ####### going as well.

There pathetic team and bumbling GM are exactly what they deserve right now

I SO AGREE! Worst fan base. And then when Kesler was there that was especially annoying. They definitely deserve to suck right now and I hope they do for a looooong time.

That 2009-2012 Canucks team remains to this day the team I have hated the most in my life. The arrogance of the fan base was unbearable and they had so many players that were easy to hate. Gillis came across as the most pompous ####### going as well.

There pathetic team and bumbling GM are exactly what they deserve right now

Oh how I hated that team. I donít know if Iíll ever hate a team as much as I hated that team (although Edmonton is getting close).

I also think that Canucks team changed the game itself in the worst possible way... I think their cup run sparked the marked increase in diving in the NHL. Iíve never seen a team dive their way to so many power plays in my life over those seasons. I think the league has a serious problem with diving today because that team found success with it and it spread like a disease across the NHL. For shame on them and their fans for what they have done to the game.

I know their has been some embellishment before them but never to the level they took it to. I could go on and on citing specific cases from them but it disgusts me to even think about it. I took so much joy in watching them lose to Boston in the cup finals.

The Canucks do not have a reputation for being "class acts". The Sedins were seen as divers. The team frequently employed pests that refused to back up their antics. They became the most hated team in the league during their cup run...so hated people were cheering for Marchand.

The team, at it's height and since, had Burrows, Kesler, Torres, Lapierre, Rome, Glass, Kassian, etc.. on the roster.

Not sure how the rioting fans fit into the image of "class act" either.

The Canucks and their fans were seen as one of the least classy teams in the history of professional sports....

Being a huge and unrepentant Lance Armstrong fan I don't view how a player plays as indicative of their character as a person (although sometimes it is obviously), the Sedin's were, as men, not hockey players, quiet unassuming massively generous citizens, they never got into trouble, there were no stories of them ho'ing their way through the Roxy or getting into drunken bar fights. They worked tirelessly for Canucks Place, donated huge sums of money to children's hospital and in every respect were model human beings as far as we can see.

Being a huge and unrepentant Lance Armstrong fan I don't view how a player plays as indicative of their character as a person (although sometimes it is obviously), the Sedin's were, as men, not hockey players, quiet unassuming massively generous citizens, they never got into trouble, there were no stories of them ho'ing their way through the Roxy or getting into drunken bar fights. They worked tirelessly for Canucks Place, donated huge sums of money to children's hospital and in every respect were model human beings as far as we can see.

I agree. I do think that the diving thing did tarnish their reputation though. I do agree that overall, they were seen as classy (yet odd) people. My comment was more to do with the team as a whole being described as "classy".

And no, it wasn't just Calgary fans who though that the Canucks weren't playing with class. The articles point to how the hockey market, as a whole, saw them.

I agree. I do think that the diving thing did tarnish their reputation though. I do agree that overall, they were seen as classy (yet odd) people. My comment was more to do with the team as a whole being described as "classy".

And no, it wasn't just Calgary fans who though that the Canucks weren't playing with class. The articles point to how the hockey market, as a whole, saw them.

I've been in skates 3 times in my life, football (association) is my game so I'm more used to diving than most, it is difficult for me to see it through Canadian eyes.

“I would love to see any Canadian team win, except Vancouver,” said Macdonald. “I don’t know why I dislike them so much. I think when they first came out they got on my wrong side because their logo was a ****ing hockey stick and that drove me crazy.”

I've been in skates 3 times in my life, football (association) is my game so I'm more used to diving than most, it is difficult for me to see it through Canadian eyes.

It is, to me, a logical part of trying to gain an advantage.

So you would respect a receiver diving even if he was not touched in order to draw an illegal contact penalty? Or whipping his head around intentionally while being tackled to draw a facemask penalty? Or what about my favourite, the punter intentionally diving or shifting his body to land on a player who was trying to block a punt?

So you would respect a receiver diving even if he was not touched in order to draw an illegal contact penalty? Or whipping his head around intentionally while being tackled to draw a facemask penalty? Or what about my favourite, the punter intentionally diving or shifting his body to land on a player who was trying to block a punt?

I absolutely hate those moves in football.

ErÖ not football. Football. The one you play with your feet, and collapse like you've been shot if somebody looks at you wrong.

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