It begins off gassing as soon as it is done roasting. I would probably count the first day and use by day 4. But some beans like a longer rest. The roaster should advise you on what his/her coffee likes.

Coffeenoobie,So am I getting this correct: You are saying count the day that the beans were roasted as Day 1. So I know the beans were roasted on Wednesday, so Saturday would be Day 4 & should hopefully be degassed enough to grind? Every place I know of says Day 4 is fine. Thanks!

Just finished a cup of Verve Sermon espresso. This was roasted on 4-8, and so if you count the day of roast, is Day 5, if you start counting the day after roast, it is Day 4. I could smell blueberries as soon as I opened the bag. It worked perfect on the grind setting, and had a beautiful crema. I tasted blueberries & it had a very creamy texture/flavor on my palate afterwards. I really enjoyed it. Now, personally I think I gravitate more towards the chocolate, caramel notes than fruit--but still very tasty. I don't know what it will taste like as it gets older. It is $20 per pound, but free shipping. I've begun to realize that most of the espresso beans I really, really enjoy are going to be in the $20-24 (including shipping) price range. I love Barrington Gold and Ambrosia. Those two are probably my favorites (not necessarily in that order). Not to sound really dumb, but what does "bright" taste like? I hear bright notes used a lot, but am confused to what bright means.

The Sermon is very "blueberryish" tasting with a creamy aftertaste. I really like it, but do have a few others I favor more (Barrington Gold, Ambrosia, Redline, Redbird). This one will probably not be on my "regular" ordering cycle; which is a shame because of the FREE shipping. With the others, including shipping; they are about $23-25 a lb. There is a local place I go to when I can't afford to pay this kind of cash. Unfortunately it is not near as good as my favorites. Oh well.... My favorites all seem to have the same thing in common----chocolate, caramel. That's what I appear to be more drawn to than the fruit.

I don't want to sound like an "espresso snob", but I only buy freshly roasted beans. I used to buy the "freeze dried" canned & packaged. Then I went to the fresh roasted beans, and never looked back. Even when my beans are not cooperating with the grind, etc.---on the worst days--my brew is still probably much better than a decent coffee shops.

Illy? Almost burnt beans (not as bad as Starbucks) and stale upon arrival (ok maybe be "ok" the 1st day b/c of the nitrogen packing then it falls off a cliff). Get some fresh roast and you'll never go back to Illy, plus Illy isn't even cheap, lot of money for stale coffee lol

FromNYtoSF, you are in place where there are quite a lot good roasters in your state and probably more than a few in your city. I encourage you to go to good coffee shops at off peak times and watch the baristas and sample their wares. When you find one you like then take those beans home and try to duplicate it.

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