Congressman John Murtha of Pennsylvania died today after devolping complications following gallbladder surgery. The controversial politician was 77 years old.

John Murtha had a taste for pork, often loading bills with tons of it and ensuring that his district received untold amounts of taxpayer money for frivolous, and often questionable, items including a self named airport that has around six flights per day.

The amount of pork Murtha gobbled up in taxpayer money must have contributed to his demise as the gallbladder aids in the digestion of fats. Considering how much pork Murtha was responsible for, his gallbladder just could not handle it.

I have said a number of times that the only way to get rid of these lifers is for them to die off. I don’t wish them death but if that is the only way to get them out of office it is better if they die off sooner rather than later. I will not miss this horrible excuse for a human being.

It is sad the way his life turned out. He started as an Eagle Scout and a highly decorated Marine and turned into a common criminal.

First Teddy Kennedy and now John Murtha. Things happen in threes so who will be the third to go?

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46 Responses to “John Murtha Dead From Gallbladder Complications”

“Murtha served 37 years in the Marines, and has Purple Hearts to his name. He visits wounded soldiers at Walter Reed every week. Three years ago, he won the Semper Fidelis Award of the Marine Corps Foundation, the highest honor the Marines can confer. Every time you think these Republicans can sink no lower, even after their vile smears against Kerry’s service…, they keep going. They make me sick to my stomach.”
–2009, Andrew Sullivan, libertarian, conservative

Dar:
That’s right you get on your high horse. But occasionally you should be reminded of this.http://www.binscorner.com/pages/d/death-threats-against-bush-at-protests-i.html
You know maybe Murtha and Kerry were honorable men when they were in the military but whatever honor they had was canceled out from too many years spent in Washinton with all the other criminals who are stealing our money. I didn’t even have very much respect for McCain who is supposed to be such a big war hero, not when he is so eager to reach across the isle to the Democratic Socialist Party of America. That’s right the Democratic Socialist Party of America. There are things in this country that there are not compromises for relative to the whims of the whiners and complainers and legalized theft is one of them.

Before you cry about McCain being smeared just get in line and wait your turn behind all the Democrats that Republicans like yourself will smear for political points. You’ve smeared Kerry, Murtha, Wesley Clark, and even Jim Webb. We all know the score. We know you don’t really consider it good service to the country unless you come home and work as a Republican.

Good service? How come it is only good service if they are Dems. Clark, relieved of duty, Kerry a ohony who got out early because of a scratch and then maligned his fellow service members, Murtha was a crook regardless of what he did in the past and Webb wrote strange things about sex with children.

McCain was maligned by you guys. There are vets who are Democrats and are honorable. The ones you listed were not.

And you never seemed to care much about maligning a person who served when you all went after Bush, who served more than you did.

BD has smeared some of the worst of the worst here- don’t kid yourself- by dying, Murtha just “saved or crerated” a bunch of money he will never be able to appropriate- that is a plus, in my book.
I don’t like how he died, as I am too familiar with the exact same problem- it is an agonizing death-
Oh well-
Stuff happens, and it happens to the bad as well as the good.

Murtha will always remind me of “Mean” Jean Schmidt and her lie about the message from Colonel Danny Bubp in Congress when she said “cowards cut and run, Marines never do.” Yet another classless Republican liar. There’s a lot of them about…

I thought your Ted Kennedy post was respectful when he died. It showed some class. But here you show no such compunction. You reveal yourself to be a vile and thoroughly disgusting human being. Crapping on a man the day he dies.

No, actually he crapped on himself- as I have said, it is not a great way to go, but it still doesn’t change the fact that BD is right- Murtha was a “classless liar”, calling his own constitutients “racists and bigots”, he sounded remarkably like Adam- perhaps they share the same family tree.

News for you Darrel, this POS crapped on my comrades in arms when he called the Marines cold blooded murderers.

He was a classless liar. I saod nothing bad about this guy in the post, only that the amount of pork is probably what killed him though now I hear his bowel was nicked during the procedure. Full of crap in life and in death.

I did not crap on him, I just did not make a big deal or pretend that I was bothered by hios death. I did the same with Kennedy. I made no bones that I was not crying over his death just that I did not want people calling him names or reveling in it at my site.

No one has reveled in Murtha’s death here but he dissed better men than he and he did not apologize even when he was shown to be wrong.

So screw you if you don’t like the post and screw you if you feel it was in poor taste.

You are free to project your ass out of here and haunt some other place.

“News for you Darrel, this POS crapped on my comrades in arms when he called the Marines cold blooded murderers.”

Of course he didn’t call them cold blooded murderers. You and others like to alter what he said to make it look worse. What he said is:

Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood.

In fact from what I can tell the only one saying Murtha used the word murder are those outraged by Murtha’s statements.

So how does Murtha’s real statement differ from what little is clear about what went on in Haditha? At least 15 noncombat civilians were killed by Marines. Murder charges have been dropped and the charges that persist still deal with the reality that the Marines killed civilians.

Right, go ahead and defend your own for the killing of civilians. Good work. Sure, Murtha was the bad guy here for calling it what it was and of course I’m a dumb ass for reminding you that Murtha never used the word ‘murder’. Don’t let Mike see you talk like that. That old block of tofu might start to think name calling is allowed around here.

Good work. Sure, Murtha was the bad guy here for calling it what it was and of course I’m a dumb ass for reminding you that Murtha never used the word ‘murder’. Don’t let Mike see you talk like that. That old block of tofu might start to think name calling is allowed around here.

In fact if you read the quote he’s talking more about the breaking point of the military than he is accusing specific Marines of murder. But of course military Democrats have a different set of rules for how they need to speak about their fellow soldiers lest they be called dishonorable by Republican chicken hawks.

Your speculation is as good as mine. He did not however call the Marines “cold blooded murderers.”

Mike:

My speculation is: Murder, as defined in common law countries, is the unlawful killing of another human being with intent (or malice aforethought), and generally this state of mind distinguishes murder from other forms of unlawful homicide.

And for the record I don’t think Murtha was entirely justified in what he said in relation to the timing of the thing. My only argument is Murtha did not make his statement with the intention of smearing those involved or in offending any other military personal. This has been taken that way, out of context, by Republicans like Big Dog who love to smear a Democrat any way they can when it comes to the military.

“He accused them of killing in cold blood. Cold blood does not imply murder.”
As I have said before do you listen to yourself? No wonder this country is in the shape it is in. Killing in cold blood is what terrorists and serial killers do to their victims. It is a line used to describe murderers who do it in a particularly savage and brutal fashion with absolutely no feelings or conscience whatsoever.

“It is a line used to describe murderers who do it in a particularly savage and brutal fashion with absolutely no feelings or conscience whatsoever.”

The same rules for murder do not necessary apply to soldiers in combat and we all know that. That’s why it was not an open and shut case. You and the rest have taken Murtha for meaning the worst in order to further a political agenda. It’s not the first time conservatives have done it and it won’t be the last.

From the WSJ Opinion Archives
by JAMES TARANTO
Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:00 P.M. EDT
‘In Cold Blood’
“What happened in Haditha we know not, but we can tell you that Murtha’s description is false, for the simple reason that it is self-contradictory. If the Marines “overreacted,” then the killings were not premeditated. They could not have killed both in the heat of the moment and in cold blood. Murtha therefore either is slandering the Marines by exaggerating their guilt or making excuses for horrific war crimes.

Why would he do such a thing? The key is that phrase “because of the pressure on them.” They’re depraved on account of they’re deployed: Murtha seeks to maximize the evil of the alleged crimes while simultaneously deflecting blame from the actual perpetrators to those who have applied “pressure” to them–i.e., civilian leaders in the executive branch.

Sound familiar? This was just what John Kerry did back in 1971, when he told tales (many of them false) of war crimes in Vietnam. Yet in his own mind, he wasn’t accusing troops of anything, as he explained in a 2004 CNN interview:

I was accusing American leaders of abandoning the troops. And if you read what I said, it is very clearly an indictment of leadership. I said to the Senate, where is the leadership of our country? And it’s the leaders who are responsible, not the soldiers. I never said that. I’ve always fought for the soldiers.

War crimes do, of course, exist, even if Kerry told fabricated stories. To excuse war criminals by denying that soldiers are responsible for their actions is an insult to everyone who has ever worn a military uniform and conducted himself honorably and lawfully.”

“They could not have killed both in the heat of the moment and in cold blood.”

That author is completely wrong. In Cold blood does not imply premeditated though it can go hand-in-hand.

Here is some “critical thinking” for you to consider as well:

Effete propagandists and spin doctors like Bill O’Reilly and Rush Limbaugh immediately accused Congressman Murtha both of calling the entire military cold blooded murderers and of rushing to judge the marines involved at Haditha. Yet, from the very beginning, Congressman Murtha’s clear concern was the stress that constant rotations and daily ambushes were having on the troops in general and the Marines in particular. The other aspect of Murtha’s comments is that he saw the increasing Iraqi Civilian causalities for exactly what they were – recruiting tools for Al Qaeda in Iraq and Sunni Insurgents. Those spin doctors politicized the incident by launching vicious attacks against Congressman Murtha, a decorated USMC combat veteran.

“Congressman Murtha’s clear concern was the stress that constant rotations and daily ambushes were having on the troops in general and the Marines in particular.”
You missed the point of the article–either those marines killed in cold blood and if they did it is a war crime and there is no deflecting the blame and there is no excuse such as “pressure and stress.” It was yet another political grandstand to say Bush was putting the troops under such extreme pressure that now they were folding and going on killing rampages and killing innocent civilians and children. Never mind who it hurts in the process least of all the soldiers involved. Just like never mind who it hurts when Reid gets up there and says,”THIS WAR IS LOST.”

Hey jackass, I can talk about them and their service or lack thereof and you in no way can imply I am a chicken hawk. Any American can talk about it as they wish. In case you don’t remember, better men than you made sure the First Amendment was and is protected.

DAR
No he didn’t. When you say someone said something, it isn’t too much to ask that they ACTUALLY said what you are claiming they said. And he didn’t.

Someday maybe you will learn to quote people accurately and not make stuff up. It is the source of a lot off your errors and bogus conclusions. A simple disregard for honesty with language. Language has enough errors and misunderstanding built into it and it isn’t useful when on top of this you purposely cling to claims that are on their face, objectively, false.

It’s actually important to be accurate.

Murtha did not say they were murderers.

D.
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“Errors, like straws, upon the surface flow; He who would search for pearls must dive below.” –John Dryden (1631-1700)

Killed them in cold blood. Our language has meaning, just as ou say and to kill someone in cold blood is to murder. Murtha said that they did something wrong, not made a mistake or killed with justification.

Someday I need to teach you how to research things. It could save you a lot of effort on the spin spin spin.

“I will not excuse murder and that what’s happened,” Murtha told ABC News chief Washington correspondent George Stephanopoulos. “This investigation should have been over two or three weeks after the incident.” ABC News.

D.
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“On December 21, 2006, the US military charged Wuterich with 12 counts of unpremeditated murder against individuals and one count of the murder of six people “while engaged in an act inherently dangerous to others”.

So what is your point and since you and Adam don’t like to think Murtha meant murder when he said “they killed in cold blood.” How about massacre because he most certainly used the word massacre which is actually worse than murder and definitely cold blooded.

SAN FRANCISCO, Oct 4 (Reuters) – An investigating officer has recommended that no murder charges be brought against U.S. Marine Corps Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich in connection with a massacre of civilians in the Iraqi town of Haditha in 2005.

I have not smeared the service of any fo them. I have thanked some of them in writing for their service but I have also pointed out the problems they have had. Kerry is no hero. He dishonored himself and his fellow service members when he LIED about them.

If pointing that out is smearing then i am guilty.

You smeared Bush about his service in the past and the funny thing is he had more than you or Obama so perhaps you should stick to something you are actually qualified to talk about.

Since Murtha did use the word ‘murder’ at some point in interviews then I’ll take back my argument that he did not mean murder when he simply said ‘killed in cold blood.’ I think he was wrong to make the statements at that time and he should have been more careful.

Yet, to paint Murtha as having smeared Marines is still ridiculous. Murtha believed he was standing up for the well-being of the troops and our country while at war and if a Republican had said those things you would be fine with it. You have different rules for Republicans and Democrats when it comes to the troops no matter what the Democrats service was.

While we praise Murtha’s personal service to the Marine Corps (or as the commander in chief would say, “Marine Corpse”), which spanned nearly four decades on active duty and as a reservist, we cannot condone his behavior once he went from serving his country on the field of battle to representing his district and nation in the halls of Congress. Too often did he epitomize the “culture of corruption” that his good friend Nancy Pelosi hypocritically opposed.