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Selection of Flournoy to teach PubAd class upsets instructor
By Carolyn Horn
associate city editor
Edwin Koupal isn't happy about it. The students in his Pub-lic Administration 350 class. “Crisis in Society,” aren’t happy about it. The administrators in the School ofPublic Administration aren't happy about their unhappiness.
But that's the way it is. Hous-* ton I. Flournoy, dean of the Center ofPublic Affairs, will be teaching Koupal’s class this spring: Koupal will not be teaching at the university at all.
The question raised by the students and Koupal is whether the change was academic or political.
Koupal, who is also the national director of the People’s Lobby, says it’s political, as do his students. The administration. however, denies those charges.
“I know for a fact that Flournoy chose the class to teach because the (People’s) Lobby caught him in questionable activity (involving campaign fund spending) during his campaign for governor (in 1974),” Koupal said. “Because we pushed the issue—and others—we became political enemies.
“He doesn’t need the class. I have proof that he looked down
the list of classes, saw the one I was teaching and chose it to teach. It was a political move.”
Flournoy, on the other hand, says he doesn't even remember the supposed issue Koupal's group raised during his campaign.
“Maybe he did.” Flournoy said. “It’s of no major consequence. My teaching the class is. not involved in a personal sense.
“Whatever the issues that might have been brought up (by the People’s Lobby) in the campaign, I’ve long since forgotten them.”
Of Koupal and his charges, Flournoy said: “He very rarely paints with a narrow brush.” and “It’s a free country.”
Flournoy said his main reason forteachingthe class is because, asdean, he would prefer a smaller class load, and the class in question is a two-unit course.
He said he also thought it more appropriate to teach in public administration, in which he is a faculty member, than in political science, where he is teaching now.
The choice of who was to teach the class was made by John J. Kirlin, the associate dean of the School of Public Administration.
He said that the appointment was made because full-time fac-
ulty members have priority over part time faculty, because Flournoy could use a lighter class load and because he was qualified to teach the class.
Of Koupal's opinion of the appointment. Kirlin said, "He's in error with that—I find it a bit insulting. since the responsibility actually lies with me.
“Koupal is clearly a contentious individual. I've heard many pros and cons about him. But I would not remove him from the classroom on that basis.”
Kirlin said that he suggested that Flournoy teach the class, and he agreed.
This was Koupal's first semester teaching the class. Some of the students in the class sent a letter to Flournoy calling Koupal’s removal “irrational.”
• “Koupal has been very motivational and stimulating within the brick walls of the classroom.” the letter read. It was signed by 14 students. “His knowledge surpasses that which can be found between two covers.
“This is his first semester at this university, which we feel is too short of a time to evaluate his performance. If there was a lack of interest or budget cut, it would be a justifiable move. But, because of a change in departmental executives, we feel that is why Mr. Koupal will be replaced.”
Former UCLA dean appointed to head continuing education
With strong commendation from President John R. Hubbard, Rosalind K. Loring has been named dean of the College of Continuing Education. She will assume her new duties Feb. 1.
Before coming to the university, she had been with the UCLA extension for 17 years. She is currently associate dean of the extension program, and had served previously as director of daytime programs.
She replaces Harvey Stedman, who has been serving as the interim dean since summer.
In her new post, Loring will have responsibility for the Evening College, Summer Session. Extension and Community Service Division, master of liberal arts program and the Air Force and Naval Reserve Officer’s Training Corps.
« Loring said she was pleased to be coming to the university and hopes to improve programs designed for the part time student.
“I am honored to have this opportunity to join with the many others at USC committed to advancing the university’s continuing education enterprise,” she said.
“It is my hope that the vast influence and resources of USC can be channeled into the support
of programs of special appeal to the nontraditional part time, adult student with an even greater impact than has been achieved to date.”
Commenting on her appointment, Hubbard praised her national reputation in the continuing education field.
“The selection of Dean Loring to fill this crucial position illustrates USC’s intention to seek academic leaders with major national and international reputation,” Hubbard said. “The appointment comes at a time in the history ofthe university when continuing and extended education must be approached with a renewed and expanded commitment.”
Loring is the coauthor of Breakthrough: Women Into Management, and is coeditor o£New Life Option, which is to be published soon.
Loring has served as a member of the College Entrance Examination Board and has recently been chosen as president-elect ofthe Adult Education Association.
She also serves on several boards and commissions, including the American Council on Education’s Commission on Women and several committees of the National University Extension Association.
Registration packets due tomorrow for ‘R’ class lottery
Registration packets must be turned in to the Registrar’s Office by 5 p.m. Wednesday in order to qualify for the lottery for “R” classes.
The lottery will be done by boxes containing completed packets. Envelopes turned in after the deadline will be dealt with on a first-come, first-serve basis.
The office will begin accepting packets at 8:30 a.m. Wednesday with no limit on the number submitted per student.
Continuing students who have not yet received their packets may pick them up beginning today at the Registrar’s Office.
TUBA OR NOT TUBA?—That is the question. Although a hard act to follow after Flash Cadillac and the Continental - ids' performed Thursday, a tuba ensemble caught students' attention when it appeared Monday afternoon at the Student Activities Center patio. DT photo by Bob LaBayne.
University billed for $150,000 by HEW
Another battle between the university and the federal government is over, but there is some question as to who came out on top.
The U.S. Dept, of Health. Education and Welfare has ordered the university to pay the government $150,000 for salaries and wages that were erroneously charged to the government.
William Mann, assistant to the executive vice-president, said the university has already paid two installments to the government. The third and final payment will be made in September 1976.
Universities may charge the government for time that faculty and staff members spend on federally funded projects, but a 1974 HEW audit showed that USC’s system of reporting such charges was deficient in several ways for the preceding four years. Mann said the university decided to settle rather than spend the man-hours to document questionable cases.
“We’re sorry to have to pay anything back,” he said. “But it’s better than having to spend a considerable sum gathering the data.”
As a result of the audit, the university implemented a monthly after-the-fact salary
certification system that was approved by the department, Mann said. *
Mann said the new system “makes departments plan a little more carefully about how they're going to use their budgets.”
The $150,000 figure was reached early this summer after about six months of negotiations with HEW, Mann said. He said the department had originally asked for a settlement in the range of $2 million.
“There were about 30 or 40 individual cases (of salary discrepancies) that were questioned. We discussed those and narrowed it down to six cases that involved overcharges or undercharges,” he said.
“HEW wanted the money all at once.” Mann said, “but our feeling was, if it was agreeable, to spread it out so we’d have the interest on the money for the general budget.”
Mann said that problems are created because the department treats universities the same way it treats industrial firms and businesses.
“It’s our hope that HEW will eventually realize what a burden this is on a university," he said. “They base everything on a 40-hour week, but we just don’t operate on a time clock.”
Student Senate business slowed by absenteeism
The Student Senate has had problems conducting business the past two weeks.
Following an upsurge in attendance at a meeting in late November, the senate first failed to have a quorum to conduct business last week, and this Monday, neither the chairman nor the vice-chairman could attend the meeting, leavingthe senate without a person toconduct the meeting.
David Blackmar, chairman of the senate, later apologized for his absence Monday and said he expected to reschedule a meeting for Thursday.
“I had some personal problems and all kinds of other things to take care of, and without a car, I just could not get back to campus in time for the meeting,” Blackmar said.
The senate was scheduled to approve the nominees for the remaining four positions on the Campus Activities Allocation Board and to discuss the proposed changes in the bylaws concerning the proxy policy of the senate at Monday’s meeting.
Blackmar said the senate would meet later this week in a meeting geared toward approving the nominees for CAAB so that the full allocations board might meet before the semester is over.
University of Southern California
Volume L'.VIII, No. 59 Los Angeles, California Tuesday, December 16, 1975
Daily
Trojan

Selection of Flournoy to teach PubAd class upsets instructor
By Carolyn Horn
associate city editor
Edwin Koupal isn't happy about it. The students in his Pub-lic Administration 350 class. “Crisis in Society,” aren’t happy about it. The administrators in the School ofPublic Administration aren't happy about their unhappiness.
But that's the way it is. Hous-* ton I. Flournoy, dean of the Center ofPublic Affairs, will be teaching Koupal’s class this spring: Koupal will not be teaching at the university at all.
The question raised by the students and Koupal is whether the change was academic or political.
Koupal, who is also the national director of the People’s Lobby, says it’s political, as do his students. The administration. however, denies those charges.
“I know for a fact that Flournoy chose the class to teach because the (People’s) Lobby caught him in questionable activity (involving campaign fund spending) during his campaign for governor (in 1974),” Koupal said. “Because we pushed the issue—and others—we became political enemies.
“He doesn’t need the class. I have proof that he looked down
the list of classes, saw the one I was teaching and chose it to teach. It was a political move.”
Flournoy, on the other hand, says he doesn't even remember the supposed issue Koupal's group raised during his campaign.
“Maybe he did.” Flournoy said. “It’s of no major consequence. My teaching the class is. not involved in a personal sense.
“Whatever the issues that might have been brought up (by the People’s Lobby) in the campaign, I’ve long since forgotten them.”
Of Koupal and his charges, Flournoy said: “He very rarely paints with a narrow brush.” and “It’s a free country.”
Flournoy said his main reason forteachingthe class is because, asdean, he would prefer a smaller class load, and the class in question is a two-unit course.
He said he also thought it more appropriate to teach in public administration, in which he is a faculty member, than in political science, where he is teaching now.
The choice of who was to teach the class was made by John J. Kirlin, the associate dean of the School of Public Administration.
He said that the appointment was made because full-time fac-
ulty members have priority over part time faculty, because Flournoy could use a lighter class load and because he was qualified to teach the class.
Of Koupal's opinion of the appointment. Kirlin said, "He's in error with that—I find it a bit insulting. since the responsibility actually lies with me.
“Koupal is clearly a contentious individual. I've heard many pros and cons about him. But I would not remove him from the classroom on that basis.”
Kirlin said that he suggested that Flournoy teach the class, and he agreed.
This was Koupal's first semester teaching the class. Some of the students in the class sent a letter to Flournoy calling Koupal’s removal “irrational.”
• “Koupal has been very motivational and stimulating within the brick walls of the classroom.” the letter read. It was signed by 14 students. “His knowledge surpasses that which can be found between two covers.
“This is his first semester at this university, which we feel is too short of a time to evaluate his performance. If there was a lack of interest or budget cut, it would be a justifiable move. But, because of a change in departmental executives, we feel that is why Mr. Koupal will be replaced.”
Former UCLA dean appointed to head continuing education
With strong commendation from President John R. Hubbard, Rosalind K. Loring has been named dean of the College of Continuing Education. She will assume her new duties Feb. 1.
Before coming to the university, she had been with the UCLA extension for 17 years. She is currently associate dean of the extension program, and had served previously as director of daytime programs.
She replaces Harvey Stedman, who has been serving as the interim dean since summer.
In her new post, Loring will have responsibility for the Evening College, Summer Session. Extension and Community Service Division, master of liberal arts program and the Air Force and Naval Reserve Officer’s Training Corps.
« Loring said she was pleased to be coming to the university and hopes to improve programs designed for the part time student.
“I am honored to have this opportunity to join with the many others at USC committed to advancing the university’s continuing education enterprise,” she said.
“It is my hope that the vast influence and resources of USC can be channeled into the support
of programs of special appeal to the nontraditional part time, adult student with an even greater impact than has been achieved to date.”
Commenting on her appointment, Hubbard praised her national reputation in the continuing education field.
“The selection of Dean Loring to fill this crucial position illustrates USC’s intention to seek academic leaders with major national and international reputation,” Hubbard said. “The appointment comes at a time in the history ofthe university when continuing and extended education must be approached with a renewed and expanded commitment.”
Loring is the coauthor of Breakthrough: Women Into Management, and is coeditor o£New Life Option, which is to be published soon.
Loring has served as a member of the College Entrance Examination Board and has recently been chosen as president-elect ofthe Adult Education Association.
She also serves on several boards and commissions, including the American Council on Education’s Commission on Women and several committees of the National University Extension Association.
Registration packets due tomorrow for ‘R’ class lottery
Registration packets must be turned in to the Registrar’s Office by 5 p.m. Wednesday in order to qualify for the lottery for “R” classes.
The lottery will be done by boxes containing completed packets. Envelopes turned in after the deadline will be dealt with on a first-come, first-serve basis.
The office will begin accepting packets at 8:30 a.m. Wednesday with no limit on the number submitted per student.
Continuing students who have not yet received their packets may pick them up beginning today at the Registrar’s Office.
TUBA OR NOT TUBA?—That is the question. Although a hard act to follow after Flash Cadillac and the Continental - ids' performed Thursday, a tuba ensemble caught students' attention when it appeared Monday afternoon at the Student Activities Center patio. DT photo by Bob LaBayne.
University billed for $150,000 by HEW
Another battle between the university and the federal government is over, but there is some question as to who came out on top.
The U.S. Dept, of Health. Education and Welfare has ordered the university to pay the government $150,000 for salaries and wages that were erroneously charged to the government.
William Mann, assistant to the executive vice-president, said the university has already paid two installments to the government. The third and final payment will be made in September 1976.
Universities may charge the government for time that faculty and staff members spend on federally funded projects, but a 1974 HEW audit showed that USC’s system of reporting such charges was deficient in several ways for the preceding four years. Mann said the university decided to settle rather than spend the man-hours to document questionable cases.
“We’re sorry to have to pay anything back,” he said. “But it’s better than having to spend a considerable sum gathering the data.”
As a result of the audit, the university implemented a monthly after-the-fact salary
certification system that was approved by the department, Mann said. *
Mann said the new system “makes departments plan a little more carefully about how they're going to use their budgets.”
The $150,000 figure was reached early this summer after about six months of negotiations with HEW, Mann said. He said the department had originally asked for a settlement in the range of $2 million.
“There were about 30 or 40 individual cases (of salary discrepancies) that were questioned. We discussed those and narrowed it down to six cases that involved overcharges or undercharges,” he said.
“HEW wanted the money all at once.” Mann said, “but our feeling was, if it was agreeable, to spread it out so we’d have the interest on the money for the general budget.”
Mann said that problems are created because the department treats universities the same way it treats industrial firms and businesses.
“It’s our hope that HEW will eventually realize what a burden this is on a university," he said. “They base everything on a 40-hour week, but we just don’t operate on a time clock.”
Student Senate business slowed by absenteeism
The Student Senate has had problems conducting business the past two weeks.
Following an upsurge in attendance at a meeting in late November, the senate first failed to have a quorum to conduct business last week, and this Monday, neither the chairman nor the vice-chairman could attend the meeting, leavingthe senate without a person toconduct the meeting.
David Blackmar, chairman of the senate, later apologized for his absence Monday and said he expected to reschedule a meeting for Thursday.
“I had some personal problems and all kinds of other things to take care of, and without a car, I just could not get back to campus in time for the meeting,” Blackmar said.
The senate was scheduled to approve the nominees for the remaining four positions on the Campus Activities Allocation Board and to discuss the proposed changes in the bylaws concerning the proxy policy of the senate at Monday’s meeting.
Blackmar said the senate would meet later this week in a meeting geared toward approving the nominees for CAAB so that the full allocations board might meet before the semester is over.
University of Southern California
Volume L'.VIII, No. 59 Los Angeles, California Tuesday, December 16, 1975
Daily
Trojan