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Interestingly enough, the messages in the "normal" map do not register if you are epic level. I know from talking to others that they do register if you're non-epic level, so I'll wait for someone to post a description of Orphirun's (sp) messages.

Same rares too, just toned down. Instead of shadow beholders you get night hags, etc.

I just went running around on heroic to see what it was like, I found 21 of the 24 messages. They're now on ddowiki on the talk page as I wasn't sure what to do with them.

Keys??

Hi:
This is starting to drive me insane. Where can I find the key for the locked door inside the manor? I found blue key that is for the locked door on left at the entrance. The red key is given by Nils which is for upstairs. I tried both red and blue keys for the locked door after going right from the entrance. Neither works. I already slayed over 2000 and NONE drops. I explored each square inch of Wheloon Prison which is full of bologna!

To clear up confusion there are 3 locked doors in the manor. The upstairs is unlocked with a key you get from the encounter Nil, he usually spawns up north, he is quite common. The wing key can be found laying on the ground, usually close to the manor region. The basement (where the 8th missive is) can only be opened by the Ray of Hope encounter. She can spawn in Harvest Hall so just keep reloading into there until she spawns.

Mini-quests and Harvest Hall

I am wondering why three mini-quests are not included in the random encounter/rare encounter list.

1) Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained (I completed it like five times but no exp, just a chest)
2) Rest for the Weary (Find the Tidy Lass) (no Exp, just two chests after defeated a hag named Elbagya)
3) Food Supply (No exp or chest)

How can I get inside the Harvest Hall? I assumed after protecting natives (Food Supply), I should earn their trust but I guess not.

Another mini-quests

Defeat the Lord of Shadow. After slaying the Shadow lord, no exp or chest. Not even included in either Random or Rare Encounter.
Correct me, if the red dot appears on the map, it is a random encounter. If so, four of them are bugged. No exp, no chest, or even counted on the Random Encounter quest list.

Name of the NPC to get you into the manor basement. she spawns inside the native Wheloon farming area where the southernmost shrine is.

I have been in there 7 times now and no sign of her. I have been into the shar mansion first and rattled the two doors on the ground floor to get the DM text saying that there will be a way to find the key, but nothing...

Am I doing something wrong or is she also random, even if you get the DM text?

Had to reset the instance for just over 30 minutes to get the chicky to pop at Harvest Hall. All I can say is that she has an incredible spot. I fought more **** escorting her to the mansion. The fight in the basement is kind of fun while the priest is summoning stuff.

Another key location

So I just wanna let you know I found another key location (marked in a red circle) for the WEST door in Shar Manor in epic map. It lies down on the ground close to 2 houses.
EDIT: I cancelled the picture - the location is probably random.

As for 8th missive - I had to finish the quest Friends in low places and take the exit to the Hall, after that it can be accessed from outside. I got the priestess there on 4th map restart.

As for 8th missive - I had to finish the quest Friends in low places and take the exit to the Hall, after that it can be accessed from outside. I got the priestess there on 4th map restart.

HF

That's what I thought. Even I completed that quest in both normal and hard level alone, I am able to enter the Harvest Hall but once I recalled out. I reenter the prison and ran to the gate. They still said that I need to earn their trust. Even I completed all optionals (protecting elders in all three camps: Eastern, Western and Southern). No luck.. so frustrating...

That's what I thought. Even I completed that quest in both normal and hard level alone, I am able to enter the Harvest Hall but once I recalled out. I reenter the prison and ran to the gate. They still said that I need to earn their trust. Even I completed all optionals (protecting elders in all three camps: Eastern, Western and Southern). No luck.. so frustrating...

Updated: I decided to abandon that quest and redo that quest. Now I have access to Harvest Hall. I guess it is a bug.

To clear up confusion there are 3 locked doors in the manor. The upstairs is unlocked with a key you get from the encounter Nil, he usually spawns up north, he is quite common. The wing key can be found laying on the ground, usually close to the manor region. The basement (where the 8th missive is) can only be opened by the Ray of Hope encounter. She can spawn in Harvest Hall so just keep reloading into there until she spawns.

You need access to the Harvest Hall by completing Friends in Low Places. And Adara attacks everything in her path...including little Rats and Dogs...

After running around in Wheloon for several hours, looking for the Blue Key for Shar Manor West Door, I found it..
It was located in a fouth spot, not mentioned previusly, since my skills in regards to posting a map is non-existing, I will sum up the position of the Key Thus: Its Random..

After running around in Wheloon for several hours, looking for the Blue Key for Shar Manor West Door, I found it..
It was located in a fouth spot, not mentioned previusly, since my skills in regards to posting a map is non-existing, I will sum up the position of the Key Thus: Its Random..

Indeed. I found the key on few different places later as well, but never again on the one I posted before.
I agree it's random.

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