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Zero wrote:And at the same time Detective has managed to keep the hell out of all of it. Dick in the cowl has only just started showing up there, and Streets of Gotham and Gotham City Sirens have both managed to stay very much street level titles. When Bruce comes back I doubt any of his wacky adventures in time will impact those books at all and I can go on ignoring it. This has always been the case with Batbooks. Even the Bat-Family crossovers used to skew more toward this side of things. Resurrection of Ra's was pretty awful and nothing convinces me that a Joker story on the same lines wouldn't be equally meh.

Anyway, Batman never died.

The only Batman book worth reading is this one though, I prefer the crazy shenanigans. I want to see Batman fight dinosaurs!

And who says the Joker has to come back? You're automatically assuming resurrection, DC could have some balls for once.

However, it would be interesting to see the Joker go in a Lazarus Pit and come out... sane.

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Zero wrote:And at the same time Detective has managed to keep the hell out of all of it. Dick in the cowl has only just started showing up there, and Streets of Gotham and Gotham City Sirens have both managed to stay very much street level titles. When Bruce comes back I doubt any of his wacky adventures in time will impact those books at all and I can go on ignoring it. This has always been the case with Batbooks. Even the Bat-Family crossovers used to skew more toward this side of things. Resurrection of Ra's was pretty awful and nothing convinces me that a Joker story on the same lines wouldn't be equally meh.

Anyway, Batman never died.

The only Batman book worth reading is this one though, I prefer the crazy shenanigans. I want to see Batman fight dinosaurs!

And who says the Joker has to come back? You're automatically assuming resurrection, DC could have some balls for once.

However, it would be interesting to see the Joker go in a Lazarus Pit and come out... sane.

Rain Partier

I think ultimately this issue foreshadows the transference of The Joker's pathological obsession with Bruce/Batman. He subconsciously wants Dick/Batman to be as good as Bruce was, he basically says as much in this issue. But it may be Damian who inherits Joker's favor, indicated by Joker saying "You sound just like...like him..." as Damian prepares to cement their bond with a crowbar.

Rain Partier

I think ultimately this issue foreshadows the transference of The Joker's pathological obsession with Bruce/Batman. He subconsciously wants Dick/Batman to be as good as Bruce was, he basically says as much in this issue. But it may be Damian who inherits Joker's favor, indicated by Joker saying "You sound just like...like him..." as Damian prepares to cement their bond with a crowbar.

WTF is this rank?

Victorian Squid wrote:Chap's comment reminds me that I was actually trade-waiting this, but since I bought this issue for the review group I probably won't rush out and buy the trade when it's published.

So, spoil for me what has been revealed about Dr. Hurt since R.I.P., someone, if you would please.

[spoiler]He's Thomas Wayne.

Not Bruce's father, but an ancestor who made a deal with a bat demon. That's why he looks so much like Bruce's father.

This has not been outright stated in the comic yet, but Morrison practically bludgeoned us over the head with it a few issues back (same with Oberon Sexton being the Joker).[/spoiler]

WTF is this rank?

Victorian Squid wrote:Chap's comment reminds me that I was actually trade-waiting this, but since I bought this issue for the review group I probably won't rush out and buy the trade when it's published.

So, spoil for me what has been revealed about Dr. Hurt since R.I.P., someone, if you would please.

[spoiler]He's Thomas Wayne.

Not Bruce's father, but an ancestor who made a deal with a bat demon. That's why he looks so much like Bruce's father.

This has not been outright stated in the comic yet, but Morrison practically bludgeoned us over the head with it a few issues back (same with Oberon Sexton being the Joker).[/spoiler]