Should the PDGA investigate? - www.DiscGolfersR.Us2015-08-02T19:27:39Zhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/forum/topics/should-the-pdga-investigate?feed=yes&xn_auth=noPersonally, I don't like to h…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2009-03-10:1809917:Comment:16773572009-03-10T19:42:56.837Z4U2NVhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/LawrenceLarryLeonardiJR
Personally, I don't like to have to smell pot or be around Discers who are smoking it while on the course. I often take my wife and child to the courses and they do not need to be exposed to that. You are in violation not only of rules (Courtesy) but also federal rules. If you are playing a tournament and found to be smoking pot on te course you should be DQed without question. A 2nd time bann them from tournaments for a year. If it happens 3 times then I would say banned from all future PDGA…
Personally, I don't like to have to smell pot or be around Discers who are smoking it while on the course. I often take my wife and child to the courses and they do not need to be exposed to that. You are in violation not only of rules (Courtesy) but also federal rules. If you are playing a tournament and found to be smoking pot on te course you should be DQed without question. A 2nd time bann them from tournaments for a year. If it happens 3 times then I would say banned from all future PDGA sactioned events. I am out there as much to have fun as the next guy, but seriously destruction of courses, hotel property, and pot smoking on the course are all reasons why Disc Golf is not a major sport.<br />
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I would like to see the sport continue to progress in its development. Incidents such as this that hinder the development should be dealt with harshly. I work towards promoting the game as I would hope everyone on this site would, but you are going to have your bad apples. It is those apples we need to squash and throw into the compost so that we can have some good ripe competition in the future. DAMMIT!!!! I'm not the most i…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2009-02-21:1809917:Comment:16419302009-02-21T14:29:20.602ZLSDiscs-Neileohttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/NeilKillian
DAMMIT!!!! I'm not the most innocent Dger out there...but I do know how to respect my surroundings...these are the main reason's why DG is not flowing in the mainstream yet...
DAMMIT!!!! I'm not the most innocent Dger out there...but I do know how to respect my surroundings...these are the main reason's why DG is not flowing in the mainstream yet... Just move the tourney somewhe…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2009-02-21:1809917:Comment:16416702009-02-21T12:00:25.370ZJamiehttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/Jamie31
Just move the tourney somewhere where the smell of marijuana is no big deal...say Jamaca?...Oregon?...Hawaii?
Just move the tourney somewhere where the smell of marijuana is no big deal...say Jamaca?...Oregon?...Hawaii? This horse is so dead. We are…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2009-02-20:1809917:Comment:16395212009-02-20T01:00:44.091ZSteve Belliveauhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/SteveBelliveau
This horse is so dead. We are a diverse group. Its hard to make others behave properly.What could the PDGA do that would help?
This horse is so dead. We are a diverse group. Its hard to make others behave properly.What could the PDGA do that would help? As we know, not everyone is g…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2009-02-19:1809917:Comment:16393862009-02-19T23:28:46.825ZMikehttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/Mike08
As we know, not everyone is good at decision making when they are intoxicated. This reminds me of sanctioned tournament play when a player will call out someone that they do not know who is breaking a rule , but when it is someone from their club or click they will turn the other cheek and ignore it. I think when you have people in the same click at one location it becomes harder to police each other. It is hard to call the hotel management or police on your friends but really there should have…
As we know, not everyone is good at decision making when they are intoxicated. This reminds me of sanctioned tournament play when a player will call out someone that they do not know who is breaking a rule , but when it is someone from their club or click they will turn the other cheek and ignore it. I think when you have people in the same click at one location it becomes harder to police each other. It is hard to call the hotel management or police on your friends but really there should have been anonymous phone call made to one or the other by either other players or the hotel to take care of these issues. I know what you are saying an…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2009-02-19:1809917:Comment:16393472009-02-19T22:57:37.385ZMikehttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/Mike08
I know what you are saying and understand your anger over the course getting pulled. I believe that had the police been involved or been called then it would be easier to justify a punishment for a player(s) actions, because it took place between rounds not during tournament play. NBA, NFL, MLB, all of those incidents that happen off the court, field, diamond, are usually things that the players are caught by the police and arrested for, or found in drug tests. They then suffer the legal…
I know what you are saying and understand your anger over the course getting pulled. I believe that had the police been involved or been called then it would be easier to justify a punishment for a player(s) actions, because it took place between rounds not during tournament play. NBA, NFL, MLB, all of those incidents that happen off the court, field, diamond, are usually things that the players are caught by the police and arrested for, or found in drug tests. They then suffer the legal consequences as well as any sanctions placed on them by the governing body that they play for and are under specific contracts to do so, such as suspensions fines...etc. I don't think that the PDGA could legitimately place the blame of this incident on any one or two people without a direct report where they were tried and covicted or admitted what they did these things. Not to mention the PDGA does not really own these players by any contracts as far as I am aware except the players are to follow PDGA rules <b>during</b> play, after a round you are your own responsibility. Innocent until proven guilty. The time to take care of a problem is when it is happening, not wait months later and sort out what is rumor and what is truth. Who's to say whether sponsors…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2009-02-19:1809917:Comment:16393332009-02-19T22:44:08.406ZChuck Kennedyhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/ChuckKennedy
Who's to say whether sponsors and/or the PDGA Disciplinary Committee are not addressing whatever factual issues are relevant or perhaps already have done so?
Who's to say whether sponsors and/or the PDGA Disciplinary Committee are not addressing whatever factual issues are relevant or perhaps already have done so? I really doubt it will surfac…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2009-02-19:1809917:Comment:16392032009-02-19T21:30:10.138ZMikehttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/Mike08
I really doubt it will surface, especially the names of the people involved. It is hearsay unless the police were called and it was reported/documented, which it doesn't sound like it was. As far as rooms getting trashed that is between the person who rented the room and the resort, not the PDGA. If the management is that "straight up" ask them for the exact names of the people involved, also ask them for the names of the other regular players that smoked pot on their course while you are out…
I really doubt it will surface, especially the names of the people involved. It is hearsay unless the police were called and it was reported/documented, which it doesn't sound like it was. As far as rooms getting trashed that is between the person who rented the room and the resort, not the PDGA. If the management is that "straight up" ask them for the exact names of the people involved, also ask them for the names of the other regular players that smoked pot on their course while you are out to crucify these few players that made a mistake. There had to be other players throughout the year that also abused the course, otherwise I would think they might just not host this specific event if it had this legacy attached to it. My guess is they will not have any names to give you because they didn't actually call the police or file any charges on people which is what should have been done in the first place if it was that obvious and out of control. Then those people involved would have trespassing warrants against them prohibiting them from being on that property in the future. That is how you send a message.<br />
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<cite>Mojo said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://discgolfer.ning.com/forum/topics/should-the-pdga-investigate?page=9&amp;commentId=1809917%3AComment%3A1639128&amp;x=1%231809917Comment1639128#1809917Comment1639128"><div>...does anyone know if the PDGA plans to actually 'talk' about this incident to the rest of the disc golf world, or is it just being covered up to protect the ones involved??? If anyone is in doubt of whether it actually occurred, I suggest you call Mr. Jimmy Brothers at the Plantation...then you'll get the truth as it relates to the people who run that fine establishment. I did, and was ashamed of what I heard from him; and he is a very straight-up guy. We all share the blame in this mess! Another jammin' course gone because of a few...that really sucks.</div>
</blockquote> I just removed a couple of po…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2009-02-19:1809917:Comment:16390912009-02-19T20:50:56.454ZTerry "the Pirate" Calhounhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/TerryCalhoun
I just removed a couple of posts from here - not because I necessarily disagree with them, but because they were slightly over the line in terms of the language used. My apologies to the two posters whose posts I removed, but you are welcome to re-state your opinion in better language.
I just removed a couple of posts from here - not because I necessarily disagree with them, but because they were slightly over the line in terms of the language used. My apologies to the two posters whose posts I removed, but you are welcome to re-state your opinion in better language. Jamie 'gr8rocshot' Ruane said…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2009-02-19:1809917:Comment:16389452009-02-19T19:20:45.672ZMy_Herohttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/My_Hero
<cite>Jamie 'gr8rocshot' Ruane said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://discgolfer.ning.com/forum/topics/should-the-pdga-investigate?page=9&amp;commentId=1809917%3AComment%3A1638824&amp;x=1#1809917Comment1555794"><div>You know something dawned on me as I was sending a semi nasty gram to the PDGA....or I as I like to now think of them "The Royal Order of Water Buffalo's" ...regarding not receiving my new card from payment made about.....2 months ago and the NSA style ridiculous account login setup…</div>
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<cite>Jamie 'gr8rocshot' Ruane said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://discgolfer.ning.com/forum/topics/should-the-pdga-investigate?page=9&amp;commentId=1809917%3AComment%3A1638824&amp;x=1#1809917Comment1555794"><div>You know something dawned on me as I was sending a semi nasty gram to the PDGA....or I as I like to now think of them "The Royal Order of Water Buffalo's" ...regarding not receiving my new card from payment made about.....2 months ago and the NSA style ridiculous account login setup process for the boards. (Yeah I'm pissed!!! But that's irrelevant to this thread )....It dawned on me that thier exalted ruler was at the Players Cup...if all this destructive and offensive behavior took place... according to the armchair quarterbacks who weren't there but somehow seem to know what happened...why didn't he do something about it then and there????? Here's a clue...maybe it was slightly embelished upon by the management.<br/><br/>Now I wasn't everywhere and didn't see everything that was going on. What I did observe, aside from a couple of minor Ball Golf course no no's...was a professionally run tourney with a professional field and a very professional staff.<br/><br/>What I did hear and took part in that particular coversation with people who are in the loop...was that It may be the last year for the PC at the Plantation and there was a chance the course could be removed altogether... I'm quite sure that took place Thursday before the start of the official rounds the next day....No one mentioned anything about anyone's behavior being a factor...what was discussed was that The Plantation was claiming that they were actually losing money by closing part of their facility to the accomidate the disc golfers.<br/><br/>So as far as an investigation is concerned maybe they should be asking why this happened under the "Head Cheese's" nose first.<br/><br/><br/>The room or rooms being left in shambles. The Inn has a card on file for whom ever rented the room...charge the idoits for the damage. If they were sponsored players... then that should be between them and the sponsor.</div>
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I was there this year as well. In fact i was there in 2005 and 2006 too. Would have made 2007 but my sister decided to get married on the same weekend! What was she thinking? Anyways, While i won't disclose anybody's name b/c it's none of my business, I did see ganga on the course during one of the practice days. I did see players, every night, disappearing into the dark night, on to the golf courses on their steel horses (golf carts). It happened, period.<br />
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I was also at the Players meeting where the Executive Director of the PDGA took the mic and pleaded to the players about calling rules on one another. He pretty much said that Disc Golf is fighting for legitimacy and nobody is going to take us seriously if we cant even call rule infractions on one another.<br />
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The Red Hawk Course being removed was a very sad thing to happen for the sport of Disc Golf. It will be missed by many. RIP.