Re: Uhura - A message from Harrison & first look at Klingon with no he

Nice.

Like previous post-TMP Klingon designs, it stays true to what came before while giving it a fresh slant. Although it's starting to look like there's a pattern of familiar Trek aliens becoming bald in the Abramsverse.

Also neat that they kept the classic Klingon trefoil insignia.

And before anyone asks, there's no continuity error here. ENT: "Divergence" established that only a percentage of the Klingon population lost their ridges to the Augment virus. Indeed, I'm wondering if they later adopted the masks as a way of equalizing the two types of Klingon, so that one couldn't tell whether another Klingon was ridged or not.

Like previous post-TMP Klingon designs, it stays true to what came before while giving it a fresh slant. Although it's starting to look like there's a pattern of familiar Trek aliens becoming bald in the Abramsverse.

Also neat that they kept the classic Klingon trefoil insignia.

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About that, Anthony from Trekmovie had some info from his Bad Robot visit

From the Bad Robot day, the makeup/hair guy explained some practical stuff. He said that they had wigs for the two klingons who removed their masks however it wasn’t working well and so they made them both bald. some of the masked klingons have the hair. Apparently the wigs were coming off with the helmets.

Re: Uhura - A message from Harrison & first look at Klingon with no he

On the original series McCoy was the chief doctor on the Enterprise. This business of overanalyzing and assigning the characters symbolic roles is something that fans came up with, possibly in fanzines during the original NBC run but more likely during the 1970s and that Roddenberry repeated back retrospectively. You don't find much of that stuff in things like, oh, the writers guidelines for the series.

On the original series McCoy was the chief doctor on the Enterprise. This business of overanalyzing and assigning the characters symbolic roles is something that fans came up with, possibly in fanzines during the original NBC run but more likely during the 1970s and that Roddenberry repeated back retrospectively. You don't find much of that stuff in things like, oh, the writers guidelines for the series.

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True a lot of that came out of the re-runs in the 70s and the movie series in the 80s.

On the original series McCoy was the chief doctor on the Enterprise. This business of overanalyzing and assigning the characters symbolic roles is something that fans came up with, possibly in fanzines during the original NBC run but more likely during the 1970s and that Roddenberry repeated back retrospectively. You don't find much of that stuff in things like, oh, the writers guidelines for the series.

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QFT. Thank you. Thank you. Furthermore, as the movies went on and Kelley got older, Bones became less important in the so-called "triad" and the movies became the "Kirk and Spock Show".

On the original series McCoy was the chief doctor on the Enterprise. This business of overanalyzing and assigning the characters symbolic roles is something that fans came up with, possibly in fanzines during the original NBC run but more likely during the 1970s and that Roddenberry repeated back retrospectively. You don't find much of that stuff in things like, oh, the writers guidelines for the series.

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QFT. Thank you. Thank you. Furthermore, as the movies went on and Kelley got older, Bones became less important in the so-called "triad" and the movies became the "Kirk and Spock Show".

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I don't know, Kirk and McCoy had some good moments together in TUC.

The only part of the Kirk, Spock, McCoy thing that ever made sense to me (because it was the least analytical and the most obvious, even if it was not deliberate) was Kirk as the pragmatist, Spock as reason and logic, and McCoy as emotion and feeling.

Roddenberry did say these characters allowed points to be discussed that would otherwise be an internal monolog in one person. I think you can see that kind of thing going on in certain episodes, but it's still a post hoc explanation for it.

I think lot of shows have tended to have three characters who play off on each other. For example, I've always thought the Matt Dillon, Festus, Doc relationship in "Gunsmoke" was very close to that of Kirk, Spock, and McCoy, especially the way Doc and Festus were more or less forced-friends through Dillon, and were drawn together by shared concerns for their friend's well-being.

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I'm really impressed with the Klingons. They still have the same basic phenotype we are used to but they have more of the "look" of the TOS Klingons, and the rest can be explained by style changes. 75 years is a lot of time for styles to come and go.

On the original series McCoy was the chief doctor on the Enterprise. This business of overanalyzing and assigning the characters symbolic roles is something that fans came up with, possibly in fanzines during the original NBC run but more likely during the 1970s and that Roddenberry repeated back retrospectively. You don't find much of that stuff in things like, oh, the writers guidelines for the series.

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QFT. Thank you. Thank you. Furthermore, as the movies went on and Kelley got older, Bones became less important in the so-called "triad" and the movies became the "Kirk and Spock Show".

~FS

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Yeah, McCoy became the "this exposition is really boring, let's have Bones break in here with an acerbic aside" comic relief go-to for the writers.

Like previous post-TMP Klingon designs, it stays true to what came before while giving it a fresh slant. Although it's starting to look like there's a pattern of familiar Trek aliens becoming bald in the Abramsverse.

Also neat that they kept the classic Klingon trefoil insignia.

And before anyone asks, there's no continuity error here. ENT: "Divergence" established that only a percentage of the Klingon population lost their ridges to the Augment virus. Indeed, I'm wondering if they later adopted the masks as a way of equalizing the two types of Klingon, so that one couldn't tell whether another Klingon was ridged or not.

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Hmm. I've always thought that hair (wearing it in certain ways, braiding etc) was an integral part of the Klingon "makeup", though.