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Originally Posted by llotter;4 Leftists should avoid reading this for they will not like what they see in the mirror.

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Thanks for the heads up. I will definitely avoid reading it. Again, thanks for the warning.
I am curious. if you think leftists shouldn't read it, why post this. The only one left is larry. Why not just PM him?

Statism is not reserved to the left, and the right has its own version. Perhaps not the 'limited government' right, nor any true conservative right, but the 'conservatives' we now have 'on the right.'

Look no further than the extreme state powers in the NDAA, and ask which conservatives complained about the GOP majority House, and the 40+ GOP senators, failing to stop these wholesale violations of individual rights enshrined in the Bill of Rights. They complained about OBAMA's role in this, but it passed Congress before he could sign or veto it.

Those who vote on the 5-4 split decisions toward the conservative side are mainly all considered conservatives, maybe with a moderate justice who may swing to one side or another at times.

So, obviously Scalia and Thomas, Alito, Roberts up until he confused the issue with his ACA decision (which btw was very conservative although no one seems to appreciate how or why), and Kennedy in that swing role on some of those 5-4 splits. At a minimum, the 4s in those votes represent what passes as non-conservative to liberal on the court.

If you want to say those are rightie radical statists rather than classic conservatives, no argument from me. That's why I used the scare quotes when I wrote 'conservative' side of the high court.

Which is my point. It's certainly common parlance, and among the right as well, to call these conservative justices. A relatively tiny number of purists on various terms do not get to make up their own meanings for words which are in common use-- rather, common use is what determines the meaning of those words.

Socializm kommunizm and kapitalizm are just words -- they dont exist -- they exist only az words.
The problem with any system iz not necessaryly the system -- the problem iz idiots -- idiots kan spoil any system.
How to spot an idiot -- for starters, idiots spend lots of time argueing (badly) about socializm and kommunizm and kapitalizm.

When i look at the usofa i see mind-kontrol -- everywhere -- every day -- in every way.