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Re: Pistons have 5 allstar players

I'd say they are about even. I think Sheed could be better, but he fits into the system in Detroit better the way he is now.

Jermaine relies too much on his athleticism, which is his reason why he isn't better than Sheed. The problem is that I don't see him trying to get better on fundamental basketball concepts, like rebounding.

But if Sheed honestly put the effort into it, he would be a better player. But right now, I think they are even.

(Though when they play each other, JO just has way too many problems)

Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.

Re: Pistons have 5 allstar players

Yea i agree UB, i think the Pistons are almost a complete / perfect team, physically & mentally..

I have a really hard time agreeing with that. The Spurs are a lot closer to being "perfect" than the Pistons. Pistons can still seem totally clueless for entire games, let alone minutes at a time. They're just too inconsistent to be labeled "almost perfect."

Re: Pistons have 5 allstar players

I have a really hard time agreeing with that. The Spurs are a lot closer to being "perfect" than the Pistons. Pistons can still seem totally clueless for entire games, let alone minutes at a time. They're just too inconsistent to be labeled "almost perfect."

I definitely disagree with that too. Although that shouldn't surprise anyone here.

Re: Pistons have 5 allstar players

I definitely disagree with that too. Although that shouldn't surprise anyone here.

So them being beat twice by the Pacers this post season was truely expected? With the injury situation, there's no way in the world that they should of walked out of Detroit 1-1. I'm in no way trying to belittle the Pacers, but lets be realistic.

The Pistons got it handed to them for over 4 straight qtrs., and my memory is a little fuzzy but I do believe it was closer to being 6. If that's "almost perfect" then your idea of perfect is way under the bar.

Re: Pistons have 5 allstar players

So them being beat twice by the Pacers this post season was truely expected? With the injury situation, there's no way in the world that they should of walked out of Detroit 1-1. I'm in no way trying to belittle the Pacers, but lets be realistic.

The Pistons got it handed to them for over 4 straight qtrs., and my memory is a little fuzzy but I do believe it was closer to being 6. If that's "almost perfect" then your idea of perfect is way under the bar.

My fault. I agreed with what you were disagreeing with. Pistons ARE from a perfect team.

If the Pistons were half as great as people make them out to be, they would have swept us, they wouldn't have had to rely on a Dwyane Wade injury to beat the Heat, and they wouldn't have lost to the Spurs.

Re: Pistons have 5 allstar players

Naptown,

Even if what you're saying about the 4 people you listed is true on an individual basis (which I don't agree with but I'm sure there are others out there who could argue back and forth with you all day about it) it still adds up to a sum that is more than equal of its individual parts.

Injuries or not, you don't accomplish what they have done the last two years on sheer luck.

Re: Pistons have 5 allstar players

Nothing I said is debatable. There's not a single great player on the Pistons.
Rip Hamilton was a borderline top-15 shooting guard in Washington. Billups was anywhere between scrub to decent 6th man in the approx. 226 teams he played on before Detroit. Sheed was an underacheiving, ill-mannered loser in Portland. Tayshaun Prince was a poor defending, awkwardly built loser at Kentucky.

Now we're suppose to believe they're something great?
I'm not "hating" on the Pistons team. Their chemistry is phenomonal, they play hard, and they play smart due to great coaching. However to say they'd be even better seperated is a bold faced lie.

Re: Pistons have 5 allstar players

Nothing I said is debatable. There's not a single great player on the Pistons.
Rip Hamilton was a borderline top-15 shooting guard in Washington. Billups was anywhere between scrub to decent 6th man in the approx. 226 teams he played on before Detroit. Sheed was an underacheiving, ill-mannered loser in Portland. Tayshaun Prince was a poor defending, awkwardly built loser at Kentucky.

Now we're suppose to believe they're something great?
I'm not "hating" on the Pistons team. Their chemistry is phenomonal, they play hard, and they play smart due to great coaching. However to say they'd be even better seperated is a bold faced lie.

I'll give you a hint; there's only one answer. They play on a winning team.

The sum is far greater than the parts in Detriot.

No one would argue that the sum is greater than the parts. That's what synergy is all about. And the Pistons are more synergistic than perhaps every other team in the league, with the possible exception of the Spurs. But that is another debate.

But what you totally overlook is that each individual starter for the Pistons is pretty damn good in his own right. An opinion that I happen to share with Buck and probably 3/4 of all other forum members.

By the way, any statement is debatable. For example, you might make the statement that your opinions are gold and that they come from the gods themselves... therefore surely they cannot be debatable. KStat on the other hand might have the opinion that your latest opinions must have eminated from a raving lunatic. The truth is almost always somewhere between the two extremes.