Hi there,Airplane tickets can already be purchased for August and September 2012. Does anyone has any problems (sold out?) with buying plane tickets in January or February (Europe to Reno), so after the purchase of an event ticket? Should I wait? Same for a RV or a Budget moving truck. Order or wait till early 2012?

And yes, one way or the other, I will be attenting in 2012, that's a promise!

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Like the others have said, I'd recommend event ticket first. Reno's not such a popular destination that you run a great risk of flights fully booking between now and spring (or whenever you plan on making that purchase).

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i think that covers the obvious questions and answers.

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But get your ticket early and be prepared to move very shortly after that to book an RV. Smaller RVs sellout quicker (usually).

In addition to RV/Rental advice friendly rental places on burningman.com, search RV threads here on specific RV booking advice. Some have already booked their RV for 2012. Shouldn't be as critical for a truck (vs. RV), but again, search for Burner friendly truck rentals and when you should book by.

Premium fees renting RVs out of Reno (in some cases, $6,000 a week instead of $3,000 a week). Less but still possible for a premium from nearby cities. Significant savings can be had (regular fees) if you go as far away as Phoenix, but you have to be prepared for your time, gas cost, (possible mileage cost, rumor is some will rent unlimited), rental fees for the extra driving time, and wear & tear on the driver.

Video games are giving kids unrealistic expectations on how many swords they can carry..... but don't harm the red dragon that frequents the area from time to time. He and I have an agreement.

So far this has reinforced what I was already planning... Event Ticket, Airline, Car, supplies.

If one's intent though is to buy an event ticket the day they become available, is there truly a possibility of not getting one? Does the fact that 2011 sold out mean that there will be a rush on tickets or that organized scalpers will finally jump on this event too? Or am I worrying for nothing. Does the fact that it took months for it to sell out mean that the gap between supply and demand isn't too wide?

VultureChow wrote:So far this has reinforced what I was already planning... Event Ticket, Airline, Car, supplies.

If one's intent though is to buy an event ticket the day they become available, is there truly a possibility of not getting one? Does the fact that 2011 sold out mean that there will be a rush on tickets or that organized scalpers will finally jump on this event too? Or am I worrying for nothing. Does the fact that it took months for it to sell out mean that the gap between supply and demand isn't too wide?

Save your ticket money, update the browser on your ticket-buying computer, and keep watching the main Burning Man webpage for the sell date. There are probably some greater anti-scalping measures being developed as we speak. (One that already existed: not allowing more than 4 tickets to any one credit card, etc.)

Oh, and join the Jack Rabbit Speaks newsletter. Ticket news is reliably sent there, and it really helped a number of people stay ahead of the sell-out last year.

VultureChow wrote:If one's intent though is to buy an event ticket the day they become available, is there truly a possibility of not getting one? Does the fact that 2011 sold out mean that there will be a rush on tickets or that organized scalpers will finally jump on this event too? Or am I worrying for nothing. Does the fact that it took months for it to sell out mean that the gap between supply and demand isn't too wide?

I think that you are worrying for nothing. With 50,000 people getting on to the playa, it would have to really be bizarre if there weren't tickets 24 hours after they went on sale. If the price tier matters to you, then earlier is better--we think. We don't know what the new procedures will be. The questions you are asking indicate to me that you have a much better appreciation of reality than many who were caught without tickets, despite being burners of many years standing.

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I wouldn't worry about event tickets selling out on the first day. Last year, event tickets took more than 6 months to sell out. Even if the BLM does not increase the capacity, and there is a run on tickets, you're still likely looking at 3-4 months from on-sale to sellout. What will likely happen (based on previous years) is that on the first day, the servers will be jammed, it will take a lot longer than people want it to, and the first several tiers of tickets will sell through.

Thanx all for the comments.I am aiming for a BM ticket (two actually) a week after they go on sale. First days are hectic, as I followed last year (actually this year January). Then, after the confirmation e-mail, I shall purchase an airline ticket. Transport from Reno to BRC I have to figure out what I want. Thinking of a small Budget moving truck.thanks again and I almost can't wait for the first exiting moment: ticket purchase BM2012

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If you get a deal on an airline ticket, get it. Saving $300-$400 on a flight is a big deal. My guess is that although you can purchase a ticket to the US this far out, it will by no means be priced well. There is a sweet spot, about 4-5 months out when all of the travel agencies are making reservations, where you can probably get a better deal. Just be ready to buy your ticket to Burning Man the week they go on sale. For a few years in a row, the first day the servers went down, so give it a shot, but don't get your hopes up. They aren't going to sell out the first day.

Sage advice so far.....ticket first is a must. I've heard that 6 weeks ahead of travel is the best time to book a flight, but I haven't seen that with Burning Man. I only fly domestically, but last year I booked my flight in January expecting that I would kick myself as I watched prices drop....nope, I got in at the lowest price. I realize now that I could have booked as late as April for the same price, but my choice of flight times deminished as times went on.

If you are booking RV rental, then absolutely sooner is better. Several of the Reno companies give substantial discounts if you are paid in full by January. A friend of mine did the box truck thing this year and I was jealous of his digs. You should also check out the Reno Craigslist ads in the months leading up to the Burn because I've heard that local RV owners rent out their rigs for much less than the local companies charge.

I read somewhere that airport peaks are for Xmas travel, but that Reno has two peaks, one Xmas and the other Burning Man, with Burning Man having similar passenger volume as Xmas. Therefore, few discounts into Reno during Burning Man.

Video games are giving kids unrealistic expectations on how many swords they can carry..... but don't harm the red dragon that frequents the area from time to time. He and I have an agreement.

I laughed at all those morons last year who cried and whined that they had bought airline tickets/RVs rentals/etc. and found that the event sold out. No airline discount will be worth the chance that the entire trip will be useless, especially when the destination will be going to a shithole like Reno ("the most boring little city in the world").

So yeah, make sure you have your BM ticket guaranteed before you pay for the airline ticket and all the other stuff. You'll still find deals in that half year between.

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