I can’t read the threads because I was BANNED in 2006 for speaking the truth. But check out the interesting headlines. Specifically note the one entitled “what’s with locking threads calling for Riley’s Ouster”.

So the uber control nazi Mamma Machado is apparently locking threads. And she wonders why subscriptions are down.

Hmm, for some reason the print screen doesnt show up very readable. Maybe its just because I’m viewing on my phone? Doesnt matter, not a surprise. Machado depends on access to the coaches for info to run her site. Its about recruiting more than anything and if she loses access to her bread and butter, she has nothing. Blitz really isnt a forum for fans to vent. Gotta take that stuff to the comments in articles or twitter. Easiest way to vote is to stop watching/attending games.

I agree she is afraid to lost her access to recruiting. But she’s charging these people per year/month, so they should have a right to say what they wish (within reason, and wanting Riley fired falls within reason). The people paying to follow recruiting are the diehard fans, and those diehard fans are going to want to vent.

It’s games like these when we can’t overcome our roster and our coaching that show just how far away from relevance we are. Everyone knows going into the season that the overwhelming majority of our players are either 2-star or unranked.

As much as Riley and staff try to “coach them up” there are reasons why these kids aren’t deserving of higher rankings. When we play teams with mostly 3, 4, & 5-star recruits, we get our asses handed to us. Have for years.

Riley’s class from a couple years ago was mostly 3 star recruits. Across the conference things were picking up in the Pac-12. Enough of these guys are playing now so it isn’t largely 2 star and unranked guys. Last years class dipped some and that downward trend is continuing for next year’s class which is right now averaging 2.5 stars. That is the lowest of all Pac-12 schools and Riley almost always is last or next to last. That is Riley’s issue of not properly selling his program.

Main reason he loses so many games is the accumulation of so many mistakes in most games. His schemes often don’t fit well with the personnel. Heavy tendancies to passing have allowed all but the worst teams to come hard after an inmobile QB and make it difficult to sustain drives. Repeated poor special teams, game adjustments and baffling clock management to go along with all of this and you are lucky to beat Colorado and losing against the vast majority of the rest of the conference.

That is where we are at and it is very likely to get worse. Fans are walking away, and may do so significantly, which will hamper the department. Recruiting is declining and Riley still hasn’t taken on any blame. I see a man holding on through ego despite continuing worsening results and damage to the university. He simply seems unable to beat any but the very worst teams anymore. A man and situation in decline that should not be allowed to completely unravel. It is going to be an ugly end to the year and a likely last place effort from Riley next year if nothing is done. Fans will disappear in droves. Very damaging for OSU and it all falls back on Riley and BDC.

He has no vision.. Just listen to him talk. He is a man that is out of answers.. I think that’s the reason for his disjointed sounding moments where he acts as if he is an outsider looking in . Its because he knows there is nothing he can do. The game and this new iteration of the PAC 12 have simply passed him by..

Its clear that now he’s realized and recognized this.. The million dollar question is how soon will OSU??..Or will we have to wait for Riley to do the right thing and step down on his own?

On the flip side… angry, you missed the best part of the game. The announcers (Matt Millen and Bob Wischusen) were making fun of the beavs for most of the second half.

May favorite part was when Haskins dropped a flare:
Millen: And that right there has been Oregon State’s game in a nutshell.
Millen then in a cartoon voice: Hey look everybody. I’m in a nutshell.
Wischusen: Ladies and gentlemen, Matt Millen has officially left the building.

What I don’t get with people like Machado regarding Riley is that it’s not like he’s 40 years old…..this is going to end sooner than later and she’s going to have to develop new relationships with the program anyway.

Those new relationships might inject some energy into her site because I would think there are others like myself who can’t even remember their passwords because who gives two shits about recruiting for an irrelevant program?

If we’re going to do it, do it right. A big part of the BCD/MR problem lies a few miles south. Competing against NIKEgon and their unlimited resources as our #1 rival, and coming up woefully short year in and year out, has to take its toll.

A coaching change can be either a band-aid or it can bereathe new life into a program. At OSU the athletic department needs an upgrade and a reboot. Recruit an AD and a football coach as a tandem, both of them intimately understanding what the small picture problems are (football talent and coaching in the modern PAC-12) and what the big picture problems are (competing head-to-head against Oregon, on and off the field). They should have a strategic action plan in place going in with the goal of not only closing the gap with Oregon, but to actually open a gap of their own on Oregon. NOT just some coach de jour to fill into Riley’s shoes. That, in fact, is how Oregon raised itself to an elite program: a long-range plan, with that as the goal. Probably has to start on the university president level to get this kind of top-to-bottom commitment.

Mama Machado and Goe can go fuck each other with a hot fire poker. As Goe has previously stated he doesn’t attend practices. He knows nothing about OSU. He’s a duck honk that couldn’t give two squirts of piss about the beavers. Blitz? Not even going there. Worse site than pure-hate

Expect all the duck honks to be in total support of Riley. What duck fan wouldnt be? A milktoast mentality, incompetent game manager, bad recruiter … an always possible if not sure win. All the coaches in the conference will be in total support of Riley. They dont want him to ever retire….lol.

In the end, it’s all about whether Riley’s teams make post season play or not. If they do, it will be business as usual. If Riley squeaks out 6 wins, he can thank the easy non-conference schedule this year.

My guess is that BDC is not going to do anything unless they have two losing seasons back to back again and attendance falls. It’s all about the math, if Riley can keep getting “C’s”, he’s not going anywhere. By Beav standards a C is passing!

is there a twitter campaign for angry beaver fans that i am unaware of? Where is the outrage? #firemikeriley seems dead.

Goe is an old troll that has proven he represents part of OSU’s perpetual problem, so fuck that guy, and the O as far as I’m concerned. No one at the O seems to have the capacity to call a spade a spade.

how about i start up some #fireBDCandmikerileytheyarelosers ? am I trying too hard?

And it may sound cruel, but Riley needs to hear such stuff. He needs to hang it up, and if he keeps on, he might well have to end on a really down season. Then he will realize he should have pulled the plug earlier. So comments like that could do him a favor…

This Cal game is biggest in years IMO on the front to move on past Riley. Lose and it almost guarantees a losing season and the remaining Pollys losing a lot of credibility with a another poor year being largely expected to follow and the Beavs possibly dropping to the cellar. Makes me nervous as 6-6 is even worse for the future of the program. Think Cal offense a bit better than OSU’s and Riley fumbles this into another loss. I expect to see quite a few empty seats and not the best weather. Interested to see how much slop will be in thus game. Tempted to take the Moneyline and earn $115 on a $100 bet. Riley blowing something in the clutch seems more likely than not.

Here was my take on the game as I watched in a torrential downpour and windstorm in central oregon. The O line continues be a ginormous sack of shit. How in the fuck can 3 pass rushers continually get to Mannion when 7 are blocking? I saw two guys whiff on blocking one guy. Just fucking irritates me to no end. How can the offensive line just continue to be this piss poor awful? I didn’t see open receivers as angry says he did, but not saying it didn’t happen either. Defense? Jesus tits, where do I start? How do they continue to make an average QB look like an all american? Hogan was average on his best days this season and well, we’ve all seen it happen many times before. All in all I just sat there and shook my head for what of it I did watch as I did not watch all of it due to intermittent satellite issues due to the weather. But what of it I did see, worst fucking game since the husky debacle last November. 1-8 in the last 9 conference games says it all. If Riley is going to stay and I think unfortunately we are fucking stuck with him until the end of time because some fucking dumbass gave him a lifetime contract, there needs to be a major shakeup on the coaching staff this offseason. Starting with Cavanaugh and Reed. Banker, I’m on the fence about. But I wouldn’t mind some new blood on the defensive side of the ball since we still can’t fucking defend a mobile QB. I’m just fucking so sick of the mediocrity. The beavers could be so much more but the coaching staff deficiencies are just glaringly obvious. At this point I am more excited for the start of hoops season than possibly winning 2 more games (which is possible) and another fucking shitty bowl game. 13 years and the best he’s done is an Alamo Bowl loss? Fucking pathetic. I see improvement from Cal, Wazzu and even Colorado. I do not seen improvement from OSU. I see things getting a lot fucking worse if this is allowed to continue.

There’s not much more to say about Football. It is what it is. It may seem unlikely but I wouldn’t mind a scenario where they pull a Bellotti on Riley- where they give him some sort of role in the department and promote an existing coach: Locey/Garrett/Banker to the HC position and let them sink or swim in 3-4 seasons (2019 at least in keeping with I believe the original contract Riley signed). Let Banker fight for his job a year or two, have Coach Brennan try his hand at OC. You get to keep the folksy charm of Riley around to make the program look like leave it to Beaver, allow Riley to retire with dignity, and give temporary hope to the fans until you can jettison BDC and attach the new AD with a new HC.

Maybe there are contractual things at work here that prevent it but I think that firing him would be far uglier. Riley did, up until 2009, try his best for OSU and I think that this would actually unite the fan base more than a firing would.

Until then I’ll just use the #ResignRiley hashtag on twitter and continue not to watch this product unless there’s a new HC

Or he’s just dead, and we should wish his family peace of mind and many happy memories of a life lost at too early an age. Also lost in the crash was his girlfriend, whose family I also give these same wishes.

I’m just tired of football for now. It was apparent after USC that we were headed for this. It’s just the same old same old. And nothing will change until someone in power changes it. That’s not me, so why bother expending effort?

I’ll take the complaints to a hoops analogy. There was a HS fan base I played against where the fans would drop dead quiet when the opposition stepped to the foul line. There was no wailing and screaming and waving of whatever behind the hoop. They were so quiet the opposing coach could be heard in normal conversation… and frequently stopped conversing normally just because it was so obvious.

That silence freaked the shooter the hell out of his mind more often than not. It was just completely unexpected and eerie.

I propose silence until noise is warranted. Our opponents will be taking free throws until our AD decides he’s tired of it. There is no other way. The Pollyanna’s last resort (one we’ve heard so so many times over the last several years) is to put our money where our mouth is. But they know as well as anyone that we or someone need millions in leverage in order to affect change. They know this because that which they defend is leveraged, from a money point, beyond ridiculous.

Let them stand in a silent, half empty (sorry… half full) stadium with their cold selves… muttering something about grass is always greener… or something. We in the real world don’t need to do this.

Canzano is calling out the albatross that is Riley’s contract in a column today. He’s not saying Riley should be fired, but thinks the contract should be restructured because in it’s current state, it does nothing to motivate the coaches to improve. Yes, duh, it’s the same things we’ve been saying for years, but at least Canzano casts a wide enough net that maybe somebody will listen.

Its always bothered me that somehow Riley has been built into this Joe Paterno-like figure. JoePa won national championships and spent over half of his career coaching teams to top 10 finishes. The sum total of Riley’s accomplishments can be boiled down to ALMOST making it to a Rose Bowl and finishing in the top 25 four of his fourteen seasons, with 18th being the highest his team has finished.

My question: What is the often spoke of, but never defined, legacy of Mike Riley?

He is perceived as the guy who ended the 28 yr drought, true or not. And didnt have many losing seasons. So he has earned something, if not to be kept this long. Part of the mentality is that a slightly winning season is so much better than a losing one every year.

And I recall the “bottom ten” ranking that someone had, that we were often in. That was dismal…lol.

So Riley was the guy in the right place at the right time, to generate a place in OSU athletics that will be honored. That is, he lucked out.

But Jack……it was Riley’s players as Ken Goe likes to say! Don’t forget Pettibone came damn close in 94 with a 4-7 team that was only outscored by 16 points all year and only gave up 239 points. Riley added two years to the streak. Erickson ended it Riley is actually the proud owner of the 3-9 2011 team which is the worst record since is own 3-8 1997 team.

I’m not sure Riley should model himself after Paterno considering how that ended, but even the “LInebacker U West Coast” was a nod to Penn St. The perceived legacy (however meager) is probably that he coached OSU during a period where they were not the laughing stock of college football. I say he benefited greatly from timing with scholarship parity and the plethora of bowl games.

In reality, it seems like his legacy is that he’s the nicest guy in college football which I guess is worth something considering the number of his peers who are assholes. The media absolutely loves dealing with him.

Coaching shit aside (personally won’t focus any energy on it as Riley ain’t going nowhere. If his flaws are killing you I suggest stop watching and save yourself the frustration)

I think I’ve been looking at things all wrong. I’ve had 2014 circled on the calendar as the year for many years now due to Mannion (finally correcting his issues) , Cooks (in the league) and Semalo (injured). Kinda went in the shitter as soon as Cooks jumped.

Even though it was in garbage time the end of the game was exciting for me. Freshman QB (who can scramble enough to keep things interesting) passing to 2 freshman receivers (full of potential) and handing off to a freshman running back how would not be denied the end zone and ran through whatever was in-front of him. With Isaac back and another year under their belt the OL will be improved. DL should be the same if not improve with healthy Grimble, Tago, Vakameilalo, maybe Delp. We lose a bunch of experience at LB and safety, but it gets replaced by guys that actually hit like Men instead of the weak ass arm tacklers. What good is all this speed on D if you just get ran over?

I’ve been a major Team Mannion guy for years now. I’ve finally seen enough to see what he is: A guy with all the tools but missing the IT factor (Angry’s Moxie) that you need in a real gun slinger. I guess I’m ready to move on. Losing Nelson will hurt but I’m not seeing a huge step back any where else.

I’m sick in the head right? Too many years as a Beaver lol. I can’t just not care. To loyal to the school and intrigued/sucked in by the kids stories. The key to all of this is the bonds you have with friends and having fun no matter how the game goes. A reason to get together.

your last two lines sum up where I’m at. The games are now nothing more than a reason to spend some quality time with family and friends. I’ll get to Corvallis around 5 for a “light” tailgate party, and plan to leave around 9:30 (long drive home)

Here is a question. Why is it that Riley seems to recruit qb’s who cant run? Is it that he wants to guarantee a pocket passer? So many qb’s nowdays can run as well as pass. Is he trying have personnel dictate staying with his old pro system? A guy who could also run might have made mincemeat of that 3 man rush that could sack Mannion.

Colleague of mine did graduate and PhD at Texas. served as a tutor for football players while there and said they literally had to make sure the football players were awake on time, physically take them to their classroom, then meet with them later for tutoring. The football players were apparently treated like a very separate, and privileged, student population.

Another colleague said at Penn State football players were treated similarly.

Watching from LA is a different cup of tea. actually left at halftime to go do stuff for the first time in years and didn’t even bother watching the second half i left recording. I’m a newlywed so that’s taking a lot of time and energy from Beavs otherwise id be even more furious..

Lakers: probably suck again
Dodgers: shit bullpen and kershaw serve it up in NLDS.
Now the vagiants are a win away from a third WS in 5 years
beavs: football is a joke, baseball heartbreak in the regional, hoops rebuilding year
Broncos: yeah they got crushed by seattle but are good again this year. Probably more playoff heartbreak coming. Manning usually finds a way to fail in the playoffs. But all I got right now.

Riley somehow is going to crap away the game vs Cal. When he does it will be a shitastic 1 of 10 in last Pac-12 games. Hardly no coaches have ever survived such an inept record from a good conference. Alot more losses coming this season and next. Its time for Riley to win not stick around because someone feels sorry he sucks. These games have been total messes. What is it that anyone likes? Go get a Matt Wells, a dominating winning HC from a lesser conference or a coordinator from a blue blood program. No other school including WSU would ever tolerate anywhere near the flaming turd OSU fans will get from Riley for the next several years if something isn’t done about it. He literally only beats crap teams now. Anything more than that he can’t piece it together before committing all the same mistakes we have seen in every continued loss after loss to anyone in the Top 70.

Hope OSU is ready for 10K less in attendance at games. Lose to Cal and we are pretty much there. Then suffer through several more L’s to end the season and a drop to last in the cellar next year being very possible and tell me this does not become a complete debacle. If all that goes down as it may then the irate nature if the fanbase now will increase 10 fold and Riley will be lucky to have 23K against some teams next year. That is a hugely damaging and hindring to the school and yes there are dozens of coaches who would put OSU in a much healthier situation. The angry fans aren’t going away unless the Riley contract gets rewritten and is much more tolerable. Otherwise with multiple losses in a row the “Riley madness” as Canzano calls it will continue. We are in a very unhealthy spot for the school and only plenty of winning and an adjusted contract will change that.

Giving up my Football season tickets and buying Women’s Basketball tickets. Rueck just pulled in an in state 5 star recruit. Even though I won’t attend more than 1 or 2 games, still be saving a few thousand a year.

Confession time. I have completely given up on Riley as a good leader or coach as far as football. Against Stanford with the first couple minutes after they scored, I switched to rooting against the Beavers per say. I realize however that my stance is actually more likely in OSU’s better interests so I truly felt I was hoping for the best thing for the program. I also found that I enjoyed the game just as much rooting for the opposition to widen the gap. I flipped the script and found it humorous to see so many Riley gaffes. I have decided I will remain this new wave Beav until atleast the end of the season believing it is more of what OSU than 6-6 which I don’t think is likely anyway. Riley may get 1 more win but I don’t see more with his errors so common.

This isn’t a tolerating mediocrity or expecting less thing. Its partially a reflection of BDC’s dumb contract putting me here and also just preferring a lot more heat under Riley and BDC. Things are far too comfortable for someone on the verge of batting .100 in his last 10 games in conference. Let alone the “dean” of Pac-12 coaches.

Having dental surgery next month(wisdom teeth out). I’m not young anymore so could be more difficult than if i had done it 2 decades ago. what I’m curious about is sedation. I have 2 options. Nitrous only, or nitrous combined with lorazepam. My insurance doesnt cover the lorazepam so it would cost some $200 out of pocket. Anybody have experience with and without lorazepam? Is it even necessary? Seems like nitrous should do the trick, but I’ve never used either. Wouldnt mind saving the $$$.

I’m hoping BG weighs in.

Also, which is worse? Sitting through the OSU Stanford game in person or getting teeth pulled?

Depends. I had my wisdom teeth out almost 20 years ago. When you say nitrous, is that twilight? Or completely out? I was put completely out. Only way to go imo. You go to sleep, you feel nothing, then you wake up confused, can’t eat, drink, walk, barely speak, and in pain. I feel for you. Having your wisdom teeth out sucks. As for Lorazepam? My ex took it. Because she was batshit crazy. That’s why she’s my ex. Tells you all you need to know about Lorazepam. However, when whiskey got his nuts cut several years back I told the dick doc I could not guarantee that if he hurt me I wouldn’t take a swing at him. He gave me a valium and I was barely able to even move and helped to be helped back to the room that made me half the man I used to be. Valium works. Everyone is different though. Good luck with your procedure.

I’m not sure how heavy handed they’ll be with the nitro. I’ve never had it before so not sure what the effects are even like. I’m hoping it puts me out to the point that I’m not aware there’s a guy ripping my insides out through my mouth. I’ll have Vicodin for the recovery day(s).

I had mine out at 18, and the crappy dentist (just got to college) who I didn’t know wouldn’t put me out with nitrous. So he freaked out when this big dude started whacking him when he stuck some pliers in my mouth and started cranking… which I really couldn’t feel, but I could totally feel my jaw getting wrenched around.

He stopped and called my parents and got the okay to give me valium. Two days later….

I have not touched a pill since. That shit was just wrong. But I don’t recall the removal of my teeth.

About 3-4 years ago, I had all 4 of my impacted(still in the gums) wisdom teeth taken out all at one time and the specialist and his assistant put me under with nitro. Counted to 8 before I was out. Woke up about 3/4 through the procedure cause I stopped breathing through my mouth, but was told to keep breathing so I did and was out again. After I woke up, I was swollen like a chipmunk with nuts in its cheeks. I too had Vicodin for recovery. Took about 4-5 days before the swelling went down to go back to work. My medical insurance covered it because they were impacted. I wouldn’t worry about just nitro alone. You’ll do fine.

Dang, that sounds a lot more difficult than my procedure will be. I’m just getting my bottom 2 taken out, and they’re both at least partially erupted from the gums. Just hoping they don’t break apart as the oral surgeon is removing them. Have heard that’s where things get messy. Good to hear the nitro did it’s job for you on it’s own.

I had my bottom 2 wisdom teeth taken out by a Navy doctor when I was on Westpac on the USS Constellation. I was 21. One of them poked up thru the gum and started to hurt and the other was right under the surface.

Jarheads don’t get nitrous 🙂 so doc hit me with the novocain and gave me a couple minutes to numb up. He came back in and started poking around. He was in the poked thru side for about 30 seconds, “tink!” There’s one…went over to the other side and spent maybe a minute with a scalpel and a minute poking around and “tink!” The other one was on the tray too.

Literally, I spent 5x more time waiting for my novocain to set in than I did under the knife. Gave me a fist full of vicodin and a couple days vacation from the flight deck and a couple days of applesauce later I was good to go.

The game is much worse…… because you will have to do again next year.
If you are only getting Nitrous Oxide, it does not put you out. It may be used as an induction agent for out patient general anesthesia where you are actually unconscious, but used alone at that concentration for a prolonged period would lead to hypoxia and death. The effect is like having a really good buzz from booze. It is an anti anxiety med. with some limited pain relief. If you have some anxiety, get the nitrous. If you want more sedation, go the IV route.

Thanks for the info. I’m not going to bother going the IV route. Way too expensive and I’d rather just deal with the pain than get put under completely.
So not sure if I was totally following what you said above though. Was your take that the lorazepam is mostly just anti anxiety and the pain relief will be minimal from that combined with nitrous, as compared to nitrous alone?

Also, if I’m under Nitrous and Lorazepam, will I be aware of the cock n balls being shoved down my throat? I’d like to at least be unaware of that if it happens. Such a vulnerable position.

I would probably skip the Lorazepam if it sounds like a routine extraction. Plus you will be able to truly enjoy your C&B fantasy. Virtually all the pain relief is from the local anesthesia and just a little from the nitrous. Nitrous is a good anti-anxiety agent and is reversible in about five minutes.
Good luck.

I had my wisdom teeth removed with just “laughing gas” (believe this is nitrous oxide). It was weird. I couldn’t feel any pain, but I could hear the doctor talking (the dickhead was asking his assistant if I had paid yet, right in the middle of the procedure) and then I felt a lot of pressure followed by a rush of warmth/fluid in my mouth (I assume this was the blood).

I posted on Canzano’s article the other day. Another thing that astounds me about Riley is that he has unusual – enviable – security and freedom for a college coach. But he chooses not to use it.

You’d think a guy who only has to win 6 games every few years – to get another year added to his contract on the back end – would be willing to take some creative “chances” (should read “opportunities”) and evolve his program and approach to the game.

Here’s a guy who could afford to give an underclassmen QB some developmental series and snaps during the season, and won’t do it. In fact he’ll risk his upperclassmen QB and star WR in a blowout against Cal at home. He’s a guy who can bring in mobile QBs and adjust his playbook – without abandoning pocket passing or the run game – and won’t do it. He has the opportunity to delegate time management (or understand how to do it strategically himself) but doesn’t do it.

I didn’t watch much of the game Saturday, just a bit that I could see while waiting in an airport. What I saw looked ugly, and obviously got worse. I hope Del Rio showed some promise, haven’t seen any “highlights” yet.

To successfully run Riley’s offense you have to have a lights out o-line EVERY f-ing season. You want to run a 18 yard cross and have your tall, gangly QB take a seven step drop, then you better recruit o-line talent year after year after year. That means your back ups need to be damned good also. It ain’t happening at OSU anymore.. If this season goes 4-8, I’d kind of like to see Cavanaugh get the axe although I know the Semaulo excuse is ready to go as a justification.

You are right. And you are right about the Semaulo excuse too. Riley’s system is slow and complicated. To make it work you need at least 5 blue chippers on the line and that hasn’t happened and won’t because Riley and staff can’t recruit their way out of a wet paper bag. No team has that line going so what makes Riley think he can run his complicated / slow system with 0 to 2 star recruits. I’m not putting down the players. Riley isn’t running a system that his player can do. Why are all the other teams going to hurry up? Because they can’t get 5 blue chippers either. They just scheme a system to what they have to work with. Riley has a system that is for pros.

Heard an interview from Riley in the last few weeks where he mentioned as much, and that the staff has decided they really need to concentrate on bringing in depth at the O-line as a first priority and they think they’re on their way to meeting that goal for the 2015 class. So far I see 5 big guys and 3 TE’s, so that would indicate they’re at least trying to correct their problems (only took some 14 years to identify that problem)
As always though, when I see 5 guys with verbals, I see 3 guys who will actually play, 1 that will not be eligible and 1 that will flip to another program, leaving our staff scrambling to pick up a guy with an Idaho State offer.(the life of a Beaver fan)

How many here think Mike Fifita will ever be a Beav? We all saw his impressive tape, but now that he’s spending this year in Florida playing out his senior year, I’m afraid he’s going to be lured by some other programs in the 11th hour.

Yep, and if you haven’t been able to recruit this in the past how do you expect to recruit this in the future. But here in is the problem… they recognize the problem as we all see it yet instead of changing the approach (system) they stay stuck in their ways. A pro system without the pros. Good business is planning and implementing what has the highest chance for success. They are married to their system which has the poorest chance for success… all the stars would have to align.

I’m really tired of hearing all the injury excuses. We have had some key injuries…just like EVERY OTHER school. I don’t think this year is a fluke for injuries- I think it’s a pretty normal level. IMO last year was the year where we couldn’t catch a break…this year seems par for the course.

Injuries are the perfect fallback for the low-expectations fan. I especially like all the hand wringing about Mullaney. Come on…he has amply proven that he is not a game changer even while healthy. Possession receiver only.

This mindset sees every single injury as a shocking, unforeseeable event. Ignores that every program deals with it, and good ones compensate by recruiting depth and/or adjusting to the remaining personnel.

And outside of Oregon State, the game is much faster which leads to even more injuries. I don’t think I’ve watched a college game this year that didn’t have someone from each team helped off the field. I predict more changes coming to help protect players but until then the team with depth will have the advantage…. which counts us out every year. I just sit around during summer practice hoping someone doesn’t get hurt because I know we haven’t recruited depth.

Sometimes fixating on Beaver woes produces myopia. At this point, criticism only of coaches is not productive. Did anyone notice that prior to last game, David Shaw did some soul searching and made some adjustments for the Beavers? They did not change the play book but did speed up the offense to prevent Beaver substitutions. They gave Hogan more appropriate tools to work with within their system. This was not just based on scouting but also evaluating their own relative strengths and weaknesses in previous games. Take note Beaver coaches, it is possible to adjust from week to week and possible to adjust to what your team does well and not so well. Pro Offense does not mean blind allegiance to play book and to tempo.

I think I read were Texas Christian sped up their offense mid-season and just layed 82 points on Texas Tech. You can change if you want. I guess Riley’s version was actually benching players for poor performance.

OT – watched the Stanford lowlights. Giving up a sack on 3rd and 22 with only three pass rushers was classic ineptitude.

On the ever important college football fashion front, I thought OSU’s dressed well for the beatdown.

I would suggest narrowing the helmet stripes and adding to the side of the helmets either 1) “OSU” in orange letters, with the bronze outline to the side of the black helmets in the new, “rebeaved,” official font of OSU or 2) the orange beaver as on BeavBlazer’s logo above.

I did not see game but only a few highlights/lowlights. In every replay I saw, number 70 was chasing his man to the quarterback and 70 lost every race. Pass blocking from Bays was unbelievably bad. I would say shockingly bad. Again I only saw a small sample, but the sample was very bad.

It is shocking how bad the players they recruit and coach look after multiple camps and several weeks into the season. Watching them, one might think new coaches were implementing new schemes with talentless recruits they inherited from the previous staff. So bizzare.

Is Hunt out with an injury? There are young CBs with ball hawking ability that has been raved about by teammates and practice-watchers alike. It seems like it would have been a good time to get Hunt, or assuming he’s hurt, Williams, some reps?

Seems like when there’s an opportunity for a youth movement, there’s no movement. This behavior probably does not help recruiting.

Through seven games, Perry is “happy” with his new starter. Scott has helped lock down elite talents like USC’s Nelson Agholor, Colorado’s Nelson Spruce and Utah’s Dres Anderson. At this point, he ranks eighth on the team with 24 tackles and first with six pass breakups.

I can see him being like Moore in the way his feet are quick and the ball gets out of his hand in a hurry. But Del Rio’s arm is a sight to behold. His normal ball on a three step drop looks like one Mannion would step into and throw as hard as he can. When the reports of his arm being live in camp came out, I just figured they meant he was good for a college arm.

I was done with Riley a half decade ago. Watch college football all day on Saturdays and you won’t see any team as error prone or with as much confusion as Riley teams for several years now. Even after time outs they are just as likely to have a false start or delay of game. Riley also pisses himself when getting right on the edge of scoring territory far too often. Whether 3rd and 2 against Utah or 3rd and inches from the 3 yard line at Stanford, no one else pisses them away as frequently or royally as submediocre Mikey. He does 15 or more dumbass things every game and must think he doesn’t have to clean it up because all the same idiot mistakes keep happening and he just keeps losing unless its Portland St. He even managed to trail them at half at home. Riley recruiting rarely adapts and he always plays like he is scared even when leading.

Riley’s identity is what we in 8th grade PE used to call the wussboy. Out of 127 coaches in FBS his rankings in many statistical categories are far too frequently in the 100s. Pettibone teams were more disciplined and Oregon St fans to be force fed tired looking Riley as something beyond a below average coach in most categories is horse manure. Good ole Bobby D and Riley need to ride off into the sunset. Wussboys in PE always got picked last unless someone felt sorry for them. You don’t run a red blooded program by making excuses about not getting the job done. Riley and the AD always ask us to accept excuses over winning. Those are the types who get picked near the bottom because they perform near the bottom. Sugar coating it is for wusses. Win more damn games or step aside for someone who will. Riley has been given too much time. The small peak was reached and the story has been written. It isn’t going higher in the next 5 years so wrap this turd up, light it on fire and leave it on BDC’s doorstep. Riley will go out a stinker.

Because the rest of their body of work is not as strong as the Ducks. This question was asked to Jeff Long outright. That is their only signature win over a team in the committee’s top 25 while the Ducks have two, Michigan State and UCLA, including one on the road.