SANTA ANA, Calif.  When it comes to polls about same-sex marriage, it's all about how you ask the question. A new national poll by Lawrence Research found that 64 percent of Americans feel that marriage should only be between one man and one woman. Thirty-three percent feel marriage should be redefined to include any two people.

The poll results may seem to contradict a Gallup poll in May that found 53 percent of Americans thought "marriage between same-sex couples should be recognized by the law as valid, with the same rights as traditional marriage."

That’s just what the people think about the issue. Their opinion counts for nothing, as we learned in California. It’s what our masters in the imperial judiciary think that counts in the US of A today.

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posted on 10/15/2011 2:53:50 PM PDT
by Spartan79
(I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man.)

Yes, THIS is the deeper question we should be asking candidates. Even Bush, in his later years, expressed support for some type of government recognition for homo relationships. We cannot support any candidate who doesn't recognize the deadly ramifications of this position.

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posted on 10/15/2011 2:54:31 PM PDT
by fwdude
("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")

Thats just what the people think about the issue. Their opinion counts for nothing, as we learned in California.

I somewhat agree. But the Left is saying that the people do NOT think this about the issue. They are spinning it for their own agenda, and we have to call them out for their lies every single time they utter them.

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posted on 10/15/2011 2:56:41 PM PDT
by fwdude
("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")

"...er...I've never dated a man before... well...at least not an Asian man. You're not uncomfortable being seen with a black man, are you? But, anyway... Hey! what do you think about my pink car? Can you roll a doobie?"

and when they find one the government will spend billions to cure it, right??

As shady as "science" is now, you'd think they would whip up a "discover" for this. But I've heard an excellent argument (Matt Barber, I think) that the homos are horrified that this would ever happen, because then the issue becomes genetic deformity, which may be able to be rectified in the womb, which many would unarguably take advantage of, destroying their argument that "gay is good."

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posted on 10/15/2011 3:15:12 PM PDT
by fwdude
("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")

The unintended consequences such as forcing religions who do not believe in gay marriage to perform them and forcing abortions in hCatholic hospitals and adoption by gays is not really unintended. It’s all a part of the plan to destroy religion.

The average that the pro-marriage amendments passed by was 67%, with most of them passing in the middle of the last decade. 64% sounds fairly reasonable. But I don’t think it is very good news.

And 40% of people thinking that marriage comes from man and the state? That’s worse news. The statists and homosexualists really have to like those numbers.

Those polls that show gay marriage support in the 50% ranges are ridiculous, there is no way it is even close to that. But 64% against it isn’t exactly a home run. It would really be interesting to know what a similar poll would show going back 25 years five years at a time. I wouldn’t be shocked if it was 90% or more rejecting “gay marriage” in ‘95.

The point of the polling results is that the public's support for homosexual "marriage" often touted by activists isn't anywhere near what they claim it is.

Although such a level of support is disturbing, we cannot make the unfounded assumption that such trends are necessarily linear. In my opinion, there comes a saturation point of perversion when even the young have to recognize nature and moral truth. I think we've reached that point, and it will even possibly see a retreat as children mature and have kids of their own.

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posted on 10/18/2011 12:44:05 PM PDT
by fwdude
("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")

Abortion is said to generally trending that way. I hope your prediction comes true.

Minnesota next year will be a good bellweather. That’s going to be another close one. I think it will probably pass, but well below 64% I bet. Then again, if a lot of folks come out to oppose Obama then that would be a good thing for the amendment.

Yes, Minnesota is known to be a little to the left of center, at least in their politics, so their marriage amendment will be something to watch. Passage would really be a punch in the gut to the fake marriage proponents.

But before then, watch North Carolina in May (or whenever they decide to have their primary.) Many pollsters showed that most people supported man/woman marriage only but did NOT want a marriage amendment. I think it will pass by at least the low 60’s, if not higher, in that state.

Indiana is scheduled to have their marriage amendment vote by as early as 2014, due to their requirement to be approved by two consecutive congresses.

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posted on 10/18/2011 2:20:58 PM PDT
by fwdude
("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")

“I think it will pass by at least the low 60s, if not higher, in that state.”

I bet NC goes higher. Va’s(my state) only passed by 57% in 2006 if I recall, but I think that was only because of the strict nature of the Va amendment(maybe a little too strict in my opinion) plus northern Va. Now NC did go for pres O last election, but they don’t have Northern Va to deal with, so I guess it passes in the 65-75% range. SC passed theirs also in 2006 by 78%.

Most of the polls are worthless when it comes to this issue, either they are merely “internet polls” where young people who don’t vote are more represented or folks just lie to the polsters because they don’t want to come of as harry or sally homophobic.

Just curious, what was “too strict” about the VA marriage amendment? I didn’t think it contained anything that most states don’t include in theirs.

Yes, from what I hear, Virginia has the deleterious “D.C.” effect in the northern areas that probably skews results from what is otherwise a very conservative state. I’m sure proximity to urban areas of Maryland doesn’t help, either. North Carolina does seem to be free from these influences, other than the centers of “education” in the larger urban areas. If these interlopers (many out-of-staters) could be discounted, I’m sure amendment passage would be in the high eighties or higher.

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posted on 10/18/2011 4:39:30 PM PDT
by fwdude
("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")

Virginia has the strictest amendment I know of, the wording is such that it not only bans “gay marriage” and any type of civil unions, but that it seems to make it go further, banning any contract between two unmarried people that “approximates” the effects of marriage. The Va AG had to make an opinion “stating that the amendment does not change the legal status of documents such as contracts, wills, or Advanced Medical Directives between unmarried people” because the wording was so broad and vague. For instance, two unmarried sisters living together might run into problems if the state decides that the amendment applies to them, to my understanding. And we all know that we can trust the state to do the right thing...

I think this supressed what a normal amendment would normally pass by, because it dipped into uneeded “big brotherism”. Even with northern Va, Va should have been in the mid 60% range or so if you look at the other states that passed pro-marriage amendments around the same time.

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