Antonio Rivas, the quest was That Lucky Old Sun. I'm playing a character who doesn't have a high speech skill, and messed up the initial meeting. If he doesn't like you (and you're not an idiot: being Fantastic's bitch [which gives you NCR rep, and means potentially meeting Fantastic again] or handing the plant to the Legion [which gives you nothing]) you get nothing but the quest complete XP, regardless of how you complete the mission.

DARKFIRE, sez House would never refuse payment because he doesn't like someone. It goes against his principles as a deeply unlikable asshole who wants what's his.

Antonio Rivas, the quest was That Lucky Old Sun. I'm playing a character who doesn't have a high speech skill, and messed up the initial meeting. If he doesn't like you (and you're not an idiot: being Fantastic's bitch [which gives you NCR rep, and means potentially meeting Fantastic again] or handing the plant to the Legion [which gives you nothing]) you get nothing but the quest complete XP, regardless of how you complete the mission.

DARKFIRE, sez House would never refuse payment because he doesn't like someone. It goes against his principles as a deeply unlikable asshole who wants what's his.

But either way the quest is complete and you got some XP for it. It's not like the quest can't be completed. If you want the outcome to be a certain way, then yeah, you'll have to restart. But the game can still proceed regardless. That one quest not going your way isn't going to break the entire game itself. Just that one questline.

EDIT: Also, you can also activate the ARCHIMEDES II system which will give you access to a super-powerful weapon if you find another piece of it later.

Antonio Rivas, the quest was That Lucky Old Sun. I'm playing a character who doesn't have a high speech skill, and messed up the initial meeting. If he doesn't like you (and you're not an idiot: being Fantastic's bitch [which gives you NCR rep, and means potentially meeting Fantastic again] or handing the plant to the Legion [which gives you nothing]) you get nothing but the quest complete XP, regardless of how you complete the mission.

DARKFIRE, sez House would never refuse payment because he doesn't like someone. It goes against his principles as a deeply unlikable asshole who wants what's his.

But either way the quest is complete and you got some XP for it. It's not like the quest can't be completed. If you want the outcome to be a certain way, then yeah, you'll have to restart. But the game can still proceed regardless. That one quest not going your way isn't going to break the entire game itself. Just that one questline.

EDIT: Also, you can also activate the ARCHIMEDES II system which will give you access to a super-powerful weapon if you find another piece of it later.

I didn't say that I'd broken the game, I said that I'd lost my rewards.

DARKFIRE, sez I tend not to activate ARCHIMEDES. 4 skill points and the Followers rep is a better reward from a practical standpoint than a weapon that takes forever to fire, and weighs as much as a Missile Launcher.

Antonio Rivas, the quest was That Lucky Old Sun. I'm playing a character who doesn't have a high speech skill, and messed up the initial meeting. If he doesn't like you (and you're not an idiot: being Fantastic's bitch [which gives you NCR rep, and means potentially meeting Fantastic again] or handing the plant to the Legion [which gives you nothing]) you get nothing but the quest complete XP, regardless of how you complete the mission.

DARKFIRE, sez House would never refuse payment because he doesn't like someone. It goes against his principles as a deeply unlikable asshole who wants what's his.

But either way the quest is complete and you got some XP for it. It's not like the quest can't be completed. If you want the outcome to be a certain way, then yeah, you'll have to restart. But the game can still proceed regardless. That one quest not going your way isn't going to break the entire game itself. Just that one questline.

EDIT: Also, you can also activate the ARCHIMEDES II system which will give you access to a super-powerful weapon if you find another piece of it later.

I didn't say that I'd broken the game, I said that I'd lost my rewards.

DARKFIRE, sez I tend not to activate ARCHIMEDES. 4 skill points and the Followers rep is a better reward from a practical standpoint than a weapon that takes forever to fire, and weighs as much as a Missile Launcher.

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I'd consider a powerful weapon, bulky or no, to be a considerable quest reward. Unless you're going for the pacifist route, at which point you've already failed by having a character with low speech skill.

But either way the quest is complete and you got some XP for it. It's not like the quest can't be completed. If you want the outcome to be a certain way, then yeah, you'll have to restart. But the game can still proceed regardless. That one quest not going your way isn't going to break the entire game itself. Just that one questline.

EDIT: Also, you can also activate the ARCHIMEDES II system which will give you access to a super-powerful weapon if you find another piece of it later.

I didn't say that I'd broken the game, I said that I'd lost my rewards.

DARKFIRE, sez I tend not to activate ARCHIMEDES. 4 skill points and the Followers rep is a better reward from a practical standpoint than a weapon that takes forever to fire, and weighs as much as a Missile Launcher.

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I'd consider a powerful weapon, bulky or no, to be a considerable quest reward. Unless you're going for the pacifist route, at which point you've already failed by having a character with low speech skill.

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A powerful weapon that weighs as much as a much more practical weapon and can only be used outside against largely stationary targets. If you had limitless carrying capacity it might be worth it for the niche value, but as it is? Not so much. It's awesome but impractical.

DARKFIRE, sez but then I get the feeling that we're talking about different things. You talking value as a quest reward, I'm talking practicality as a weapon.

DARKFIRE, sez but then I get the feeling that we're talking about different things. You talking value as a quest reward, I'm talking practicality as a weapon.

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I was just pointing out that you said ALL quest rewards were tied to one npc when that's not specifically true. You really meant to say that the quest rewards you felt were most valuable were tied to the one NPC. *shrug*

Working on making an epic team in Fire Emblem... did anyone else here get it? Or are you all SONY SHEEP, LOLOL.

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Made a post about it in this thread a few days ago. Been having an awesome time with it, though things have sorta slowed down since I did all the Paralogues. Want to get my Renown a bit higher than what it currently is before starting a new Save File, though (1810).

I did. It kept score on screen but the font makes it hard to read on my crappy SDTV, it was either 14-2, 14-3, 15-2, or 15-3, I couldn't quite tell.

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Great! Haha! You are really good though.

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Trust me, I used to stink badly. As fun as the game was it was something I was below scrub level at, my friend would keep stomping all over me. Granted even getting stomped, I had a lot of fun with it. Then the big patch (that near 600 megabyte one you had to sit through) came out in November, and there's a reason why it's so big of a file. It overhauls a decent chunk of the combat engine (the infinite prevention system got completely retooled, the game's speed got a pretty decent increase, all characters got plenty of balancing tweaks). Once that patch came out, I spent the first couple days getting familiar with it, and I went from total scrub level to pretty good. At that point it just clicked in my head. That, and I have a better remote to use for this game based on what I'm more used to than when I played a lot before the patch released, so that helps too.

Working on making an epic team in Fire Emblem... did anyone else here get it? Or are you all SONY SHEEP, LOLOL.

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Made a post about it in this thread a few days ago. Been having an awesome time with it, though things have sorta slowed down since I did all the Paralogues. Want to get my Renown a bit higher than what it currently is before starting a new Save File, though (1810).

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Ah, I have tagged about 10 others on a regular basis who are playing it, so I'm busy grinding out some epic skills to own them with when my squad gets sent over.

Perhaps, I'm only about to start chapter 10 (though I've sunk 20 hours into the game alraeady) 30 if you count my other two files) but so far I can only talk with Chrom.

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Hmm, maybe they changed it from the GBA ones, where certain characters *cough*EVERY FUCKING MYRMIDON*cough* had to be recruited by other characters that weren't the player's lord or one of the lords (Guy by Matthew, Joshua by Natasha).

also there is a way to fix it yourself so you can get the saves from it that you can. i looked it up online, it requires a heat gun, some thermal paste to put on the motherboards cpu chips and something else. if you want to look it up online it should be easy to fins and see what all you need to do it.

also there is a way to fix it yourself so you can get the saves from it that you can. i looked it up online, it requires a heat gun, some thermal paste to put on the motherboards cpu chips and something else. if you want to look it up online it should be easy to fins and see what all you need to do it.

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Yeah the yellow light of death. I really want my saves. I'll have to look that up. Thanks for the tip.

Focusing on getting my tech up-to-date in XCOM. I made some huge strides this month, and my monthly funding has gone through the roof... Which is good, because I've been researching all these neat toys, and can't afford any of them until next month
...Kind of like real life

The aliens on the latest missions are really wrecking my ****... Snake Eyes and Doc are out of commission for a little while, and once they're back, they're going to wreak bloody vengance. Meanwhile, my heavies seem to always disappoint. I don't know why, but they feel less useful than all my others, even with their impressive overwatch abilities.

also there is a way to fix it yourself so you can get the saves from it that you can. i looked it up online, it requires a heat gun, some thermal paste to put on the motherboards cpu chips and something else. if you want to look it up online it should be easy to fins and see what all you need to do it.

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Yeah the yellow light of death. I really want my saves. I'll have to look that up. Thanks for the tip.

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I had looked it up when mine died but I couldn't afford the stuff to fix it. and ended up getting a new ps3 for Christmas from Shinigami. But I still plan to fix my old one as soon as a get a job again and get all my old saves back.

This pleases me since I now get 1 in HD and Re:CoM for my first time (I've had the Gameboy cart since day 1 but never the PS2 disc), but also ticks me in that I don't get HD 2 or BBS until the next one because this series prints money.

This pleases me since I now get 1 in HD and Re:CoM for my first time (I've had the Gameboy cart since day 1 but never the PS2 disc), but also ticks me in that I don't get HD 2 or BBS until the next one because this series prints money.

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That cover is gorgeous. I am a huge fan of the series! If Kingdom Hearts 3 came out exclusive to PS3 I would've got one the day it released! I really don't care about HD upgrade, I'm more happy to see Final Mix finally appear outside Japan (even if I won't get to play it lol). Re:Chain of Memories is a great game, you'll love it DP, but I prefer the GBA version though since I felt it was more challenging. Re:Chain has this skill that you can spam and it devastates normal enemies and bosses. I see Days on the cover, but I don't think it's playable. I believe it's just cutscenes, but if anyone was really interested in the game they could stream it on youtube lol.

Does the Vita play PSP games like Birth by Sleep? I missed out on that one.

This pleases me since I now get 1 in HD and Re:CoM for my first time (I've had the Gameboy cart since day 1 but never the PS2 disc), but also ticks me in that I don't get HD 2 or BBS until the next one because this series prints money.

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That cover is gorgeous. I am a huge fan of the series! If Kingdom Hearts 3 came out exclusive to PS3 I would've got one the day it released! I really don't care about HD upgrade, I'm more happy to see Final Mix finally appear outside Japan (even if I won't get to play it lol). Re:Chain of Memories is a great game, you'll love it DP, but I prefer the GBA version though since I felt it was more challenging. Re:Chain has this skill that you can spam and it devastates normal enemies and bosses. I see Days on the cover, but I don't think it's playable. I believe it's just cutscenes, but if anyone was really interested in the game they could stream it on youtube lol.

Does the Vita play PSP games like Birth by Sleep? I missed out on that one.

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The Vita plays most PSP games from the Playstation Store, but here's the kicker: Square Enix never released Birth By Sleep on the Playstation Store. Not sure if they gave a reason why but I do remember reading something about it close to it's launch, since PSPGo owners (lol PSPGo) were essentially screwed out of it. Back when my PSP was in working order (motherboard fried january 2012) I played the hell out of Birth By Sleep, it's a great game. I almost beat it 100% too, I only needed to beat the second secret boss. In terms of difficulty I'd say he's near KH1 Sephiroth level, so yeah I never beat him after months and months of trying, and now I can't. I'm sad.