Last Saturday when I pulled into Morrisons for petrol I was told to take my helmet off in future or else they would not serve me. When I asked them if muslim women would have to take off their burka or hijab they said "no". Of course I argued with them saying that was discrimination. They said it was because of a new law coming into force in April requiring this but could not tell me the name of the bIll. Has anybody here heard anything about this? I think it is lies because I have been able to find no information about this bill.

They couldn't tell me how many bikers ride on their bikes with sawn-off shotguns into garages and rob them or why bikers are banned but not muslims wearing their headgear. Funny enough, they again had no answer as to how it will prevent robberies when law-abiding riders pay even when they have helmets on but people stealing are not every likely to take their helmet off. Someone could quite easily walk into a filling station disguised as a muslim woman, take out a sawn-off shotgun and rob the station making their get-away in a car.

It is that bad actually! Why should we be treated as second class citizens when people who could potentially be killers are treated as first-class citizens? we can't wear a balaclava in because they can't see our faces but muslims an wear a hijab and that has only a slit where the eyes are. Why is an exception being made for them? It should be everybody or nobody. Why should muslims have the right to do something I can't when if I lived in a muslim country and was a citizen of that country I would have a real hard time because I am not a muslim. Not just that but I suspect I am being told lies and I don't like being told lies and taken for an idiot. As far as I am concerned it is a matter of principle.

No, no I'm not having a go at anybody, just putting my thoughts down on here. I don't mind taking my lid off as long as the rule applies to everybody and that includes Muslims. But morrisons told me the rule does not apply to them just us. That ticks me off.

In morrisons you cant fill up as they have to start the pump so I cant fill up then pay. I thought of that.

It's not just a case of going elsewhere, I have studied Islam for a number of years and know the way it works, their long-term plans which have been found by the Swiss police in a document known in intelligence circles as "the project" and what is called "cultural jihad" of which this is a prime example where allowances are made for muslims but not us or rules apply to us but not them because the party making the rules are too afraid to upset them.

I know that all muslims are not bombers but they all support the same long-term aim which is to impose islam on the whole world whether we like it or not. There are different ways of getting achieving the same objective.

Forklift, if you thought I was having a go at you then sorry mate I wasn't. I was just putting my case which because of all my years of studying islam and what muslims are doing around the world I know what is going on here. I have got to the stage where I say things bluntly without realising it because although people don't realise it time is starting to run out for us. What I am saying may seem stupid but look at how things have changed globally over the last 20 years. Once again, sorry about the way it came over because no abuse or attack of any kind was meant towards you or anybody on here.

If anybody wants to find out something of why I am concerned start looking at the websites "jihad watch" and gates of vienna. Go on youtube and have a look at islamic demos in london where the police ran from muslims, malmo and truthtv. The last is very gruesome and not for the fainthearted.

For anybody that thinks I am a racist Islam is a cult not a race. Don't forget some muslims are white so how can I be racist against my own colour? Try looking at what is actually going on in muslim countries, at the way they treat non muslims then tell me I am racist because I don't want that happening here. Why is it racist to want rules to apply equally to everybody?

Some people don't have a clue of what is going on then call people who do know names. That does not bother me in the slightest because I know through years of study what is going on even if you don't. Ignorance is no excuse. Have a look at this. If wanting to stop this makes me a racist then I am. Demonstrating should be allowed but not this.

Morrisons
Yes I know it's quicker but the problem is that some are allowed to go in the kiosk with their heads covered when we are not. They are allowed in because they will claim islamophobia, racism and all the other rubbish. Laws and rules should apply to everybody equally whether you are an immigrant or not whatever your religion or views may be. At one time it was like that but now it isn't and that is wrong. I don't see why we should have to pay at the pump when muslims do not. Clearly we are not trusted in case we rob the station but muslims are trusted not to blow themselves and others to pieces. But what if they do? It's too late then. If we robbed the station at least its only money which can be replaced. People can't.

However, if you feel so strongly about it, only fill up when it's really busy, go through the motions of disrobing at the kiosk nice and slowly, then slowly re-robe when you've paid, whilst still at the till. You never know, complaints from other customers may eventually get you a change of policy. However, if some of those who write here are right, you'll more than likely make even more enemies for the biking population.

It's not a universal Morrisons problem as I fill up only at their stores and have never been challenged (so far). I hope you're not going to spoil it for the rest of us!

morrisons....
all idiots, stopped me from shopping once for wearing a pirates outfit, apparantly my Parrot, Cutlass and even my wooden leg (made out of a stair post) was a health & safety issue !!!!, the only way they would allow me to contnue was to have bollards & safety tape around me at all times, which was an inconvienience cos i could,nt reach the shelves, it was lucky that i wasnt a motorbike riding pirate or i'd have been really srewed, Now when i go shopping i only use the Paki shop on the corner," />

Nobody here has mentioned making more enemies for bikers, only you. But this goes further than that, it is yet another company/organisation treating muslims with favouratism because they are afraid of them which is another step to the islamisation of Britain. Things are done step-by-step which is how they work. If that happens making enemies for bikers will be the least of our problems.

Anyway all I wanted to know was if anybody had heard of this law. A simple yes or no would have been sufficient but not one person answered and I am the one at fault? It's a simple case of fighting for our rights, the right to be treated equally and without favour or disfavour in all aspects of our lives whether concerned with motorcycling or not. People get trodden on because they won't fight back which is what you lot are doing. Freedoms and rights are eradicated step-by-step-by-step. Don't say you weren't warned when it happens because happen it will.

Morrisons
You misunderstood what I was saying. I was suggesting, a bit tongue in cheek, that some of our compatriots have a "they're all out to get us" complex. I personally don't think other motorists would react that way in the scenario I laid out.

From the heat of your reply, it appears you think that you're being got at, which is not true. I must confess I missed the question about a new law and am looking into it. If I get any meaningful response, I'll post it. In the meantime, chill out!

principles
I think your principle should be upheld. I also understand that it's not very easy showing how you want to come across in type; it's not helpful when people tell you to "calm down" when in fact you're not even 'heated up' either. You're right though, when people want to push the big picture through they do it in little steps chipping away un-noticed until it's too late. I'm an atheist who likes to live and let live but unfortunately our government is currently "sleepwalking" into a whole shitload of trouble, good aren't they?

Morrisons
You might find that the local morrisons to you, or in a given area have had a lot of people on Motor bikes / scooters fill up then drive off without paying for the fuel that they have just put in the tank. You might also find that the staff feel intimidated by sombody in full leathers and lid.
You could do what i have done in the past, which is have the old balaclava on under the lid so when you take it off to fill up you abide by there request but you only have your eyes showing.
You will also find that a lot of other petrol stations have the same policy as far as i can gather it is to stop you filling up with fuel then riding away without paying. Also they want a pretty picture of you on the cctv systems.
Just take your lid off at the pump fill up and walk slowly to the kiosk to pay oh and pay by card not cash then walk slowly back to the bike then with great care put your lid back on, Oh and do it only when the petrol station is busy so you hog the pump for a bit.

I don't get it
what is the problem with motorbikes riding off without paying?
isn't it the same as a car driving off?
they have your number plate on cctv, that's what they need/look at right?
For what it's worth or not, I also do not understand what is the big deal with us wearing helmets if we pay up for our petrol. I am very lucky I have not been asked to take it off yet, but I am a lazy girl and will very happily NOT return to the garage where they asked me to take it off.
I didn't take simber comparison to people wearing face/head gear racist by the way.
I think it is brave of him to speak up his view as it is often true that in this day and age in our society you only dare to mention a 'group of people' and very easily you are pointed at as being the 'bad guy/gal'
I simply took it as him not understanding why the same rule does not apply to all, full stop.
And yes, if I walked into a petrol station wearing a wooly hat/scarf and big dark sunglasses, they would not see a speckle of my face/head but they would not ask me to remove my glasses/hat/scarf prior to me paying.
peace to all (or not? " />)
Jo

i agree with some of the comments in this thread, my local bank refused to serve me the other day, as i had my Shoei Multi-tech on, with the front up, you could see my face clearly, and one of the cashiers had passed me in the customer service part while i was queuing, knew me and said hello........

five minutes later i am approached by... lets be diverse here...... a person of foreign origin and told to remove my helmet, i pointed out to him, that i had looked at the sign before entering, and it pictated a full face helmet, and that he could see my features very clearly, incidently there was a person........ being honest i couldnt tell if it was male or female..... all i could see was there eye's, i pointed this out, but it would seem religion and stupid rules run England.... took a pic of the signAttachment 1