Friday, July 06, 2012

The Saltire should replace the LGBT flag flying over Whitehall

This is the flag which (for the first time) is presently flying over Whitehall at the request (on the command?) of the Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg, in honour of Gay Pride.

As much as God loves lesbians, gays, bisexuals and the transgendered, His Grace is persuaded that, in honour of Andy Murray's momentous achievement in becoming the first British man to reach a Wimbledon final since 1938, the Prime Minister ought to give the order for the Scottish Saltire, the Saint Andrew's Cross, to fly over Whitehall and No10 Downing Street over this weekend.

Also,this reminds me when people talked about 'reclaiming' the Union flag from the BNP etc. Perhaps his Grace could 'reclaim' the 'gay' flag from PC extremism too and use it as his own symbol? "gays for Cranmer"...

anna anglican said, @John, a gentleman does not correct a ladies spelling error.

Especially not in a snarky way. There is also an ancient hallowed custom which permits anyone who can calculate Lagrange points, who knows what magnetohydrodynamics is and has a party over a visiting Higgs boson particle to spell any bloody way she wants.

And what will Cranmer do in the unlikely event of Murray (not Marray) winning - run down Whitehall in a kilt tossing the caber. If Mr Marray wins with his Danish Partner we should of course fly the European flag from all public buildings. Anyway at least he did better than Tory Tim.

Flying a flag over official buildings because of ... Tennis? It's barely a legitimate sport. C'mon now, How many people are huddled around their TV sets watching tennis? It's not like it's Soccer or Rugby.

What on earth is happening to my country under this government led by the political party I have supported all my long life. A flag glorifying perversion flying over Whitehall. Laws to redefine the state of marriage and to abolish the House of Lords. A fear to do or say anything about our relationship with the EU in case it might upset the junior member of the Coalition. Is this a price worth paying Dave in order to cling to power?. For God's sake give Clegg and Co. their P45s unless of course you happen to agree with them in which case what on earth are you doing in the Conservative party.

I have just learnt from Pink News that the Greater London Authority (GLA) i.e. Boris Johnson, is supporting this public display tomorrow to the tune of £100,000 as the major sponsor and throwing in Trafalgar Square for free ! This is what he said

A spokesperson for the Mayor of London said: “The Mayor is a big supporter of London’s Pride celebrations and hopes they will be as vibrant and enjoyable as possible. That is why as well as waiving the fee to use Trafalgar Square the GLA is the biggest sponsor, providing £100,000 in funding.

"The iconic flag has been flown on the personal request of Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg. Officials say that Mr Clegg thought it ‘was about time for Whitehall to bring itself up to date’ by flying the flag in solidarity with the LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered) community.

Liberal Democrat Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg said: “There has to be a first time for everything – flying this iconic flag in the heart of Whitehall is a small but important emblem that the Government and this country are behind equal rights.

“I’m absolutely delighted that, with a little bit of persuasion and determination, we’ve been able to fly the rainbow flag for this weekend’s festivities. I hope this is the start of a new era of pride across the historic Whitehall village.”

Terrance Higgins Trust's website gives graphic details of how to "enjoy" the pleasures of homosexual lust (oh should I have written love there ? I don't think so). This is what they advocate

Health information for gay men direct from THT’s website and easily available to all, including THT’s youthful followers:

Watersports: “Watersports means letting piss get on his or your body or clothes – or in the mouth, or drinking it. Drinking plenty of beer – or water, apple or cranberry juice if you want to stay clear-headed – makes sure your urine isn’t too salty and smelly” (here).

Just reading Romans Chapter 1, 18-32.Kinda sums it up.Clegg is a foolish little man. He endorses, approves of & encourages men to commit sin. Then flaunts his stupidity in the face of God by waving a Rainbow Rag on a stick above a government building.How sad that a once great & Godly country should find itself shamed by such men. Maranatha.

I have just realised what is actually going on, silly me it has taken such a long time to get there ! It is not that homosexuals want marriage because they don't, what they actually want is to destroy the institution of marriage.

This is what Peter Tatchell said in his Gay Liberation Front Manifesto back in 1971 : i.e. this was written before and as a basis for Peter Tatchell's first Gay Pride rally in London in 1972. Which I believe has become the model for the world and is the foundation of the WorldPride rally we are seeing in London this weekend.

"The oppression of gay people starts in the most basic unit of society, the Family, consisting of the man in charge, a slave as his wife, and their children on whom they force themselves as the ideal models. The very form of the family works against homosexuality"

Taken from How we are Oppressed - The Family.1971 Gay Liberation Front Manifesto

It seems that Christian communicants on this site are uncategorically opposed to male homosexuality yet tolerant of female homosexuality. Naomi where is your list of lesbian depraved sexual practices?

As a legal professional I would have imagined that you would be aware of being discriminatory in your post particularly as the onlyChristian homosexual representationhere is from the Anglican lesbian AA

It would be interesting to read a response from a male homosexual Christian, to this post.In all of these past posts this is what has been missing...opinions and information from Christians who are gay men.

I urge you all to come forward and say your piece. It wont be pleasant . You will be pilloried,abused, humiliated, insulted, reviled by faux Christians but you will have an opportunity to make clear a number of possible misunderstandings about the life style of a gay Christian male who may not necessarily indulge in the depraved practices listed by Mrs. King.

Your Grace,How about the crusader cross as a flag? Oh no, they would not fly that as it might offend someone.

Naomi said, It is not that homosexuals want marriage ..... they actually want to destroy the institution of marriage.( And Church marriage0.Where have you been Naomi? This was obvious from the start. You are normally so on the ball. Do keep up dear.

To earlier Commentators, I'm not too sure how many 'Ladies' and 'Gentlemen' we have here as communicants?

Whether or not tennis justifies the flying a flag over govt buildings, flying the LGBT flag must be another example of the priorities of the out-of-touch metropolitan left-liberals, such as Mr Clegg (and Mr Cameron as well?). How many voters 'out there' are more excited by the metropolitan elite obsession with LGBT than with Andy Murray's achievement?

Cressidia.You will be pilloried,abused, humiliated, insulted, reviled by faux Christians

How disappointing of you. Do point out where it said that being a Christian is the easy option. Although we love the sinner, we cannot tolerate these sins against God, nature, themselves and their partners. One is so reviled by Mrs King’s post of 07:38 that the indulgers of these practices cannot be anything but mentally ill. We are talking of maybe 1.5% of men who are homosexual. Those practices must be largely confined to the sexually over active homo youth, an even smaller percentage of the overall. Even then, there must be homo men who find those practices as revolting as the rest of us. I put it to you madam that by now we are in realms of micro percentages.

The Inspector has always found that women in the main are driven by relationship values, and that the physical requirements of the expression of love are thus muted. We also see how easily some women can swap between heterosexual and homosexual relationships. The late Kathy Kirby being an example.

Are you as offensive to all other groups who have sex outside marriage? As far as I can see from the Bible, Jesus's criticism was a general criticism and did not target a particular group within that broad classification.

These disgusting practices broadcast by Mrs King by way of Pink News are not restricted to male homosexuals. Some sexually disturbed men and women, of a heterosexual persuasion,subject themselves to these degrading and humiliating practices too.

The other point I'd make is that I wouldn't underestimate the sexual drives of women. Both men and women have sexual needs and the variations in the strength of these drives are individual rather than gender based.

The Leader of the Liberal Democrats and Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Nick Clegg says that "your freedom to love who you choose is a fundamental right in a liberal society -- and you [Out4Marriage] will always have our support. That's why I'm Out4Marriage."

Dodo, then indeed the herd is weak. Still, a vote is a vote, and of course any politician who jumps on the deviants bandwagon knows he will be left alone by them. Rather think the latter point is why our elected representatives are so keen to smile at these sick of mind people...

Of course, in a true ‘liberal’ society, the Inspector would have no problem walking the streets armed with a revolver, for personal safety of course. So go on Clegg, do something equally liberal for this man...

That told him , Anna.Else he would have pointed out that "a ladies" is gramatically incorrect - horrendous , in fact - and that it should be "a lady's".

The issue is not one of gentlemanly conduct,but rather, of standards.I lerned that off ov my old inglish teecha.

As to His Grace's point : well done Andy for being the first Briton in the final in a lifetime. But why rush to honour somebody who , thus far , has done nothing more than earn a guaranteed runners-up place?

Such celebration may convey the impression that the British are sporting under-achievers , content with athletes who just "tried their jolly hardest"

It looks like David Cameron's lustre is fading along with Nick Clegg's ...

"43% of Tory members do not agree that Cameron is a vote winner" !

By Tim MontgomerieOn ConservativeHome6 Jul 2012 10:25:43

"In the latest ConservativeHome survey we asked Tory members whether they agreed or disagreed with certain statements about David Cameron. The results are published below.

I can't say I'm surprised at some of the most negative ratings. 86% think he's surrounded himself with too many chums. 65% think he prefers the political company of Nick Clegg to the Tory Right. Only 19% think he has a plan to win the next election.

Some of the more interesting numbers come in the middle of the table. 75% fear Mr Cameron has spent too little time outside of politics. Connected to this finding is the 50% of grassroots members think Cameron has no vision for the country and is only interested in being Prime Minister."

Referring back to the post on the Law Society's unaccountability to it's membership yesterday and what has gone before here; (shades of the Church of England and Dr Charles Reed the "unofficial Foreign Secretary of the CofE from an earlier post) the conduct of the Law Society is hardly to be surprised at. The following Out4Marriage tube video from the new Law Society incoming President, Mental health and human rights lawyer Lucy Scott-Moncrieff tells all.

Lucy Scott-Moncrieff is an homosexual herself I believe, and she is leading the Legal Sector group at today's Gay WorldPride match in Central London, this very afternoon !

I must admit to being profoundly disappointed at the outcome of Euro 2012. My attitude was pretty much "Anyone but Spain." All the chatter about "watching history" didn't make that 4-0 demolition of Italy any easier to watch.

I am actually a convert to Soccer. I used to have that typical dismissive American attitude - but then I watched the World Cup. There isn't actually an American team that can play the game at a level worth watching, but ESPN shows the Premiere League.

One is beginning to warm to the idea that the propagation and promotion of homosexuality be made a criminal offence. It’s either that or allow these people to dismantle the parts of society they disagree with, which from this man’s view seems to be an awful lot of it.

It is clear that the homosexual agenda and what we hold dear in society are incompatible.

If one likens society to a carriage, being drawn forward by six horses, few in the carriage at the moment actually realise that someone intent on crashing the coach has jumped on and is riding the lead horse. In full view of the driver, Cameron, who merely looks on and waives. It’s all going to end in tears sooner or later. The only question that remains is whose...

Inspector said ..."One is beginning to warm to the idea that the propagation and promotion of homosexuality be made a criminal offence."

It was at one time. The Section 28 of the Local Government Act 1988 stated that a local authority "shall not intentionally promote homosexuality or publish material with the intention of promoting homosexuality" or "promote the teaching in any maintained school of the acceptability of homosexuality as a pretended family relationship".

Note the "pretended family relationship" wording.

Gay rights advocates, such as Stonewall, OutRage!, The Pink Paper and the Gay Times formed the major opposition to Section 28 and led the campaign for its repealPolitical parties that were opposed to Section 28 included the Labour Party, the Liberal Democrats and the Green Party.

Section 28 galvanised the disparate British gay rights movement into action. The resulting protest saw the rise of now famous groups like Stonewall and OutRage!.

The issue began to divide the Conservative party, heightening divisions between party modernists and traditionalists. In 1999 Conservative leader William Hague sacked frontbencher Shaun Woodward for refusing to support the party line that Section 28 should not be repealed, prompting pro-gay rights Conservatives, such as Steve Norris, to speak out against the decision. 2000 saw gay Conservative Ivan Massow defect to the Labour Party in response to the Conservative Party's continued support of Section 28.

In 2000, the first attempted legislation to repeal Section 28 was introduced by the Labour Government as part of the Local Government Act 2000, but was defeated by a House of Lords campaign led by Baroness Young.

It was repealed in June 2000 in Scotland, and in November 2003 in the rest of Great Britain by section 122 of the Local Government Act 2003.

One of Gordon's achievements!

Interestingly, the Conservative-run Kent County Council, created their own version of Section 28 to keep the effect of the repealed law in their schools. This was replaced on 16 December 2004 with provisions stating that heterosexual marriage and family relationships are the only firm foundations for society. The statement now says: “We will ensure that sex education values family and marriage as the foundation of a civilised society, and a firm basis for the nurturing of children."

Time to bring back Section 28?

However, be aeware of the 'equal rights' form of democracy in action. During the repeal process Edward Davey said "In a liberal democracy, the need to protect minorities properly sometimes means that protection cannot be achieved through the ballot box and that some things are not appropriate for a vote."

Interesting that. Is that why homosexual marriage was never stated in a manifesto?

Well Dodo after all this time our gay community is getting more vociferous not less. Of course, the condition they suffer from means that they will always be malcontents until they are finally placed on top of the tree. Completely out of the question.

Have made that quote read a bit better – what do you think ?

"In a liberal democracy, the need to protect THE OVERWHELMING MASS DECENT MAJORITY properly sometimes means that protection cannot be LEFT TO DISHONOURABLE POLITICIANS and that some things are not appropriate for a vote, QUEERS PLAYING AT MR AND MRS FOR EXAMPLE"

Ah Tory Lad. It seems Whitehall doesn’t mind that any old rag flies from it’s flagstaff. Got a picture somewhere of a swastika flying from the same pole. The dust jacket of a book on an imagined successful NAZI invasion of GB. Equally disgusting sight, you know...

Dodo, I should point out that it is not the Americans but the British that have changed the English language. The Americans still use spellings that were used by the British at the time of the revolution. They have then kept the spellings as they were and we have changed the language over the past 2 and a half centuries.

But yes, a spell checker is very useful. Especially for dyslexics like myself!

It created a lot of positive publicity in the media and sympathy in the general population too. In fact, it is partly responsible for the perceived requirement to detoxify the Tory brand. If it wasn't for Section 28 then we probably wouldn't have had the advances in social justice. Thank god for Norman Tebbit et al. :)

Not quite sure I'd use that exact wording but I get your drift and am in favour of it.

There are certain standards and institutions deply embedded in our culture that ought not be changed by a minority elite on the grounds of "equality" without proper consultation with the public and the use of the ballot box prior to legislation.

Attempting to redefine marriage is one such matter and it's not just about belief in God. It's about the basic unit of our society and the next generation.

The cultural vandals must be stopped!

This divided the Tories in 1999 between 'traditionalists' and 'modernisers'. Let's hope it divides them again and any vote in Parliament is a matter of conscience. I'd also say the Lords may have a part to play too. A 'swan song' possibly before we have an elected second chamber.

Your Grace,The Inspector wrote, One is beginning to warm to the idea that the propagation and promotion of homosexuality be made a criminal offenceWell done that man, three cheers. It really should happen again as it was in section 28 was it? We need that across the land.

Don't underestimate the conservative nature of the British. All societies have inbuilt mechanism for protecting themselves against harmful radical change. If they don't they collapse.

There may come a point where sympathy morphes into intolerance. All it'll take is a few high profile reports of homosexual misdeeds or realisation of the agenda behind this campaign, and the tide will turn.

Your Grace,Has Prostitution been made legal yet? If not why not? Seems like they are being discriminated against. Just because they get paid for sex. Seems like an equality thing not allowing desperate males to spend their money as they see fit.

Dodo: "There may come a point where sympathy morphes into intolerance. All it'll take is a few high profile reports of homosexual misdeeds or realisation of the agenda behind this campaign, and the tide will turn."

Well, there's something the Catholic Church ought to take on board too. The child abuse scandals, the child trafficking scandals, the blatant self-interest of the organisation and its political agendas ... our religious tolerance is not unlimited you know. Especially given the history in this country.

Chaps. Jolly good show ! You are all coming round to the idea that no free society can be hijacked by any one special interest group intent on backing up it’s position with the law of the land. And in the case of homosexuals we have the fully Monty. Gay marriage, followed by imposition of THEIR ideas in the school classroom, and punitive measures taken against any that criticise their deranged view of the world. It is, unfortunately the price we do pay for a free society. Any maggot infested dog can crawl to the fore and insist on bones for all. Whether you like to suck on bones or not.

Gentleman. We have rallied, and forward we go. We have strength of numbers and what is more, we have GOD and nature on our side. We CANNOT be defeated...

Get out of our way, social inadequates, we are taking back what is ours....

I thought it was something like that (you see I do take an interest in what other communicants get up to). Mr Jacobs likes brats, so I may suggest to him in return that he tries a nice cumberland sausage (with gravy and mash- I am sure that Mr Oswin will be able to help).

Tony B. We’ve got to be careful with bankers. The world doesn’t risk it’s money in London for no reason. But to lose the banking industry from this country, then we would be all the poorer, literally. However, in the latest outrage, there is enough evidence there to send the perpetrators to prison for a good few months. So, let it happen and let all know who trust London, we are doing our best to stamp out corruption...

Two homosexual chaps on 'Million Pound Drop' (don't ask why it was on) reached their last question with £150,000 at stake. To win all they needed to do was answer whether the woman's egg or the man's sperm determined the sex of a child. Guess what? They went for the woman's egg and lost.

Now, most reasonably bright heterosexual couples would know the answer because their interest would be in the sex of any child they might have or have had. Not homosexual men. Oh no. A simple question about biology and because of disinterest and ignorance about basic normal sexual reproduction, they lost £150,000.

@Inspector Horrible Histories is a family tv show that aims to explain history in an ironic, but facutal way, nothing to do with 'gay agendas' or any other of your usual suspect agendas or anything which is likely to make you sleepwalk around inspector hall for the night.

Are you and Dodo sure that NASA had put a pussy on Mars, I didn't realise they had put anything living on that planet, let alone brought a pussy back. They put the Viking landers down there a couple of years back(nothing to do with this chap 'english viking' whom I notice keeps being mentioned in hushed wispers?).

I suspect that the flag Clegg really wants to see flying over Whitehall, and just about everywhere else in the UK, is the EU's barbed sphincter. Meanwhile any rag will do - other than the union flag that should be flying that is.

“When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him.” Isaiah 59:19.

We cannot expect to see God at His best unless we see the devil at his worst. - Let this evil spirit do his uttermost, for then we shall see what the Holy Spirit can do when the fullness of His power is displayed, then shall our help become the most glorious!

Inspector, good for you...

"Gentleman. We have rallied, and forward we go. We have strength of numbers and what is more, we have GOD and nature on our side. We CANNOT be defeated...

Get out of our way, social inadequates, we are taking back what is ours....

Like chaff before the wind, the foes shall fly—they shall be driven like thin clouds before a Biscay gale! When once God comes into the fight, woe unto you who are His enemies! Woe unto you! You may fight like mighty men, but you know the might of Israel’s sword in ancient times, and you shall feel it now!

Soldiers of Jesus, never despair! My Brothers and Sisters, do not even fear! Be of good courage! Be confident! God is on our side. “Immanuel”—let that be your watchword—“God with us—Immanuel.” Be very courageous and very earnest, and the Spirit of the Lord will lift up a standard when the enemy comes in like a flood.

God grant it for His name’s sake. Amen.

There is nothing asked of you but to look on Christ Jesus and live. And oh, at this moment may the Holy Spirit do for you what I cannot—may He lift up that standard in your heart, that all your doubts and fears may flee at once—and the battle may be yours because Christ has espoused your cause! I believe it will be so.

You may be a long time in the darkness, but you shall not always be there. Never did a soul perish that sought the Lord with all its heart. You may be outside Mercy’s door and knock, and it may be a cold wintry day and your very fingers may get chilled as you hold the rapper—but the door must open ultimately, there is no question about that! If you are willing to be God’s, God is willing to be yours. The Spirit of the Lord will be your Helper.

And to finish for now if you want to see the debauchery of the homosexual lifestyle I would suggest a look at

http://www.christianvoice.org.uk/?p=3358

Just looking at these troubling pictures is shocking. And these homosexuals want to tell us that they are not insane or have serious psychiatric problems? This is corrupted anti-social behaviour personified.

God’s soldiers need to rise up now.

And by the way Tesco sponsored the homosexual WorldPride protest march yesterday to the tune of £30,000, we all need to boycott Tesco's too to tell business to keep out of politics !

http://www.christianvoice.org.uk/?p=2047

For a report on Tesco's and more photos of homosexuals claiming to be "Family"

Graham @ 09:19 you are absolutely right, that flag wouldn't be flying without Cameron's complete complicity. He and Clegg are in this, excuse the pun, "shit", right up to there noses ! Just because Cameron isn't making public declarations doesn't mean he is 100% pushing these proposals for the destruction of marriage and family life. Keeping his mouth closed is just good politics. Cameron and Clegg are joined at the hip like siamese twins, one acts and the other speaks. Don't trust Cameron ! I am glad that his party is beginning to see through him.

Remember homosexuals don't want marriage they just don't want the rest of us to have marriage either ! Just look at the pictures taken yesterday in Central London, paid for in large part with £100,000 of Londoner's public money !

“Tesco’s announcement in November last year of funding of £30,000 for the event led to a Christmas boycott, followed by disastrous trading figures and a 16% mark-down in their share price. Everything that could go wrong since has gone wrong for the supermarket giant.”

It’s only a short paragraph, so one is confident that it may find inclusion in the shareholders annual report...

"It" (gay pride march) did indeed look like something organised by the local mental health day centre."

Please don't be prejudiced against people with mental health difficulties. Let me assure you, even at the heights or depths of their illnesses, such people are never as depraved and disturbed as the pictures suggest these people are.

These days we are able to help the poor souls who in past times were chained to the walls.

As for DanJ0, he's a 'busted flush'. His little game is clear.

He claims he's a liberal yet promotes the tyranny of a minority and supports illiberal 'equal rights'. He's a democrat, yet agrees with the bypassing and misuse of democratic processes. He wants a stable and free society whilst promoting cultural vandalism.

And all this driven by a hatred of theism and a cry against the traditional family and social conventions.

I mean, either God made him the way he is and gave him this cross, or his parents, or society. So someone has to pay - big time.

Inspector, these weekend episodes you have ... are they triggered by anything in particular? I'm wondering, you see, whether you end up walking furtively back and forth past that pub early in the evening and when you get back to your computer you're filled with self-loathing which needs an outlet. Am I right? As for the nurse thing, don't let it get you down. I'm sure there are plenty more 'beards' in the sea, to mix metaphors.

Oh, the gay place. Thinks it made it on a tourist brochure. Not one of Gloucester’s finest hours...

There was a fight outside it the other week. Some homophobic had gone in and started making snide remarks. Two women and a man took offence, and when the fellow left through the door they went for him. It was the women who beat him up. Never underestimate a couple of tuppence lickers with drink inside them, what !

Dodo, obviously I'm taking the piss in the comments but I don't really have any doubt at all that the Inspector is batting for the same team as me. Seriously, there can't be any real doubt that he's a repressed homosexual can there? Can there? Lordy, he must be pinging the gaydars of every astute male within a 100 metres of wherever he goes.

Indeed wise and knowing bird. One can read him like a book. The only person he’s desperately trying to justify his beliefs to is himself.

By the way. Inspector off to the lake district day after. Hopes to continue posting, but depends on that broadband thing one is told. They’ve only had mains electricity up there since the 1950s. Radio telephone coverage surprisingly good. Saw someone use one of those things up there a couple of years ago. Thinks he was an outsider.

If he can post, first on the Inspectors itinery is to wreak revengeful havoc on the pinkies. Thinks they’ve seen the last of him have they....

DanJ0, you do seem to have formed an attachment to the Inspector. It is in your dreams that he is himself homosexual. Thus, can’t help you out that way, old fruit. However, he has in his research found that many gays have additional problems. Masochism being surprisingly popular. You could say that’s it the gay man’s additional burden of choice.

So, if you wish to be horse whipped to within an inch of your life, Inspector knows we can come to some arrangement :->

Inspector: "DanJ0, you do seem to have formed an attachment to the Inspector."

Ah yes. That's why you're been throwing my name around here today and why you couldn't pipe up enough in the thread below last night despite being told to piss off by me. Add to that your hanging around Pink News being a pest there too, together with your obsession with all things homosexual around here, and things look a bit different. You protest too much, I think. Far, far too much.

Of course, gay men enjoy masochism because of the requirement to be humiliated. Such a strong urge so it is, that it is said they feel reduced physical pain. So, whenever you see a couple of men ‘together’ you will understand that one is the humiliator and the other the humiliated.

As a Christian, it does seem to this man to be part of a divine plan, God’s doing, if you will. The big question of course is WHY ?

Thanks for your post @7 July 2012 16:20, very informative. Most interesting that the Labour Government brought in the repeal of section 28 through the Scottish back door. This is exactly the tactic they have used this time as well !

The repeal of section 28 legalised the "intentional promotion of homosexuality and the publishing of material with the intention of promoting homosexuality and the promotion of the teaching in schools of the acceptability of homosexuality as a pretended family relationship". So society has reaped what the previous Labour Government has sown !

The Scottish consultation which took place 6 months earlier than the English consolation is now due to report back to the Scottish Parliament within the next few weeks. So this issue has very much not gone away.

THE independence referendum may have dominated the headlines, but it is the Scottish Government’s plan to consider same-sex marriage which has given Ministers a bigger post bag: 21,000 responses [on the independence referendum] to more than 70,000 [on the proposed destruction of marriage]...This is one of those classic ministerial decisions when the choice is whether to slit your wrists or cut your throat, with no room for compromise...Pressing ahead with the plans would leave Mr Salmond’s careful wooing of the Catholic Church over the last two decades in tatters, and motivate thousands of opponents in the run-up to the referendum. Backing away would expose splits in the SNP, and a trigger a bitter backlash from MSPs and the equality lobby..

Opponents have been circulating to MSPs, a QCs opinion on the implications of the reform. Ministers have claimed that they will give protection to churches which do not want to perform gay marriages. But the QC’s opinion is that, thanks to EU and UK Equality legislation, this reassurances would “not exempt” them from “a claim of direct sex discrimination...

Anyone innocent enough to believe that the Scottish Government's plan, (quaintly described as a Consultation) to alter the historical heterosexual nature of marriage to include same-sex couples will end here should bear in mind that the new leaders of the four opposition parties in Holyrood, at a recent junket organised by Equality Network, signed a pledge to promote same-sex marriage. Equality Network exists to promote the interests of bi-sexuals and transexuals as well as lesbians and homosexual men,"

So beware, what happens in Scotland is very likely to happen here in England and Wales in 3 years time; just like it did on the repeal of section 28; 2000 for Scotland and 2003 for England and Wales. So God fearing Christians and believers of other faiths need to fight the Scottish battle too.

Homosexuals I promise you we will never stop fighting this good fight, never relinquish the honor of being God's voice for marriage. With the power, glory and grace of God, we will keep on not only fighting but winning, for ever and ever, Amen !

The Washington-based National Organization for Marriage, was created in the US to fight gay marriage proposals

Here is a quote from their June 28th Newsletter

THURSDAY, JUNE 28, 2012

Dear Marriage Supporter,

14,714!

That's the number of Americans who, as I write this morning, have already signed our new petition atDumpGeneralMills.com!

Speaking of morning, what in the world is the nation's leading manufacturer of breakfast cereals thinking?!

I never thought that by eating Cheerios for breakfast I would be supporting gay marriage. General Mills' decision to pander to same-sex marriage activists has forced me and my family to choose between their food products and our conscience. As long as food is produced by other companies my conscience is going to win out over the desire for another bowl of Lucky Charms. Until they stop supporting this radical social agenda I must, in good conscience, look for substitutes that I can purchase instead of General Mills' brands.

General Mills is headquartered in Minnesota, so the Pioneer Press covered our announcement. "We'd like (General Mills) to step back and say they respect the views of all of their customers and employees," our own Jonathan Baker, director of the Corporate Fairness Project for the National Organization for Marriage, told reporters, "Eating Cheerios for breakfast shouldn't have to be a moral choice about marriage."

A national newspaper today [2nd July 2012] reveals secret emails between the Home Office and the Department for Education which make clear that redefining marriage will have an impact on what is taught about marriage in schools.

We would like you to email your MP about this matter — more about that in a moment.

Hidden information

It is outrageous that this information was hidden from the public when the consultation process was ongoing. Officials and ministers knew there was an issue, but said nothing to the public.

The secret Government emails came to light following a Freedom of Information request. They show that Government officials were worried about how the media (and therefore the public) would react if it became known that redefining marriage would affect school lessons.

Officials wanted “defensive lines to take” with the press, should the matter come to light. One official said they knew it was a potential “minefield”.

How it affects schools

Under the current law, schools are under a legal duty to teach children about the importance of marriage. If marriage is redefined, it will affect what children are taught about marriage in the classroom.

The Government emails conclude with a document approved by schools minister Nick Gibb, which makes clear that education guidance about marriage will be affected if marriage is redefined.

It just goes to show that redefining marriage is no modest measure. It reaches down into everyday life, even into the classrooms of our children and grandchildren.

The 2nd July letter from the NATIONAL ORGANISATION FOR MARRIAGE (remember what has happened to TESCO see the Inspector @12:07 above)

MONDAY, JULY 2, 2012

TELL CORPORATE AMERICA : DON'T MESS WITH MARRIAGE

Welcome to the DumpStarbucks.com News!

At www.DumpStarbucks.com you can enter your city or zip code and come up with local coffee shop alternatives to Starbucks. However, most of us do not purchase every cup of coffee while we are out around town. This week we are proud to roll out Jitters and Bliss Coffee as a provider of excellent coffee that can be brewed with a clean conscience any time you want at home, at the office or at your church.

With over 160 different types of coffee they have something for every taste. Do you want to purchase free trade, organic coffee? They have 20 options. Do you like flavored coffee? Try one of the 58 different types offered by Jitters and Bliss Coffee. Are you an espresso fan? They have 14 varieties. Need a decaf to settle you down in the evening? Jitters and Bliss has 19 different types with which to relax. All this and they’ll ship you whole beans or grind them for you in one of five different styles.

During the month of July Jitters and Bliss is offering a 5% discount to every customer who enters the promotional code "marriage". A small portion of each purchase made also goes to support the National Organization for Marriage as we work to educate people and corporations on the importance of marriage to our society.

What you can do this week:

Check out Jitters and Bliss Coffee! Jitters and Bliss came to us a few weeks back and said that they respect the views of all of their customers on marriage and that they would like to work with us to provide high-quality coffee to former Starbucks customers through their online store.

Let me be clear. Jitters and Bliss has not, as a corporation, taken a position in the debate over marriage. Just like every company, they have customers, employees, and vendors who hold personal views on what marriage ought to be. They are committed to honoring those views by maintaining a neutral corporate position on marriage.

Per a couple of former Starbucks employees—they also have great coffee!

Having worked at Starbucks for 7 years and my husband having been there for 13 years, we are a little picky about our coffee. I prefer being called a coffee connoisseur as opposed to coffee snob!

I have tried 10 brands since we started DumpStarbucks, but hadn’t found a satisfactory replacement until now. I received 3 bags of coffee from Jitters & Bliss yesterday. I have tried two of the coffees so far and they are delicious. The beans are beautiful. Oily and dark. Just yummy!

Not only is their coffee good but they are more reasonably priced than all the other coffees I have tried. I am sold!

Great coffee for a fair price from a company that respects the diverse views of all of their customers on marriage. Check out Jitters & Bliss Coffee!

Don't forget to enter the promotional code "marriage" to receive 5% off your order and support marriage!

And this one from the COALITION FOR MARRIAGE (C4M) on Thursday 5th July

Dear marriage supporter,

Every day, more and more people are signing our national marriage petition. We are heading towards 600,000 names, and we hope to reach one million! Please continue to encourage others to sign the petition.

Historic response

Just like you did, the majority of people who signed our petition indicated that they wanted to be kept informed about our campaign. You are a huge network of pro-marriage activists, making you part of Europe’s largest marriage organisation.

According to media reports, the Home Office’s public consultation on the plans to redefine marriage (which closed on 14 June) attracted more than 100,000 responses – making it one of the biggest in British Government history.

But we are not just sitting back and waiting for the Government to respond to the consultation. We are pushing on to win the debate and top one million names on our petition.

Crucial campaign

The campaign to protect marriage is vital. Whether you have a faith or not, I think you will agree with the Church of England who told the Government that redefining marriage “would alter the intrinsic nature of marriage as the union of a man and a woman, as enshrined in human institutions throughout history”.

That is why our work is so crucial – because the Government’s plans will change the meaning of marriage for everyone. Earlier this week we told you about the impact on schools.

We need to keep this campaign going and take it to the next level. We already conduct polling research, produce campaign adverts, publish briefings, speak to the media, consult lawyers, and urge the public to engage in the democratic process.

We have spent tens of thousands pushing the campaign forward. Over the next few months we will be giving you tips for what you can do to defend marriage.

Please help

Without any funds, our campaign simply would not exist. We cannot keep the campaign going without donations. Please consider making a generous donation to support marriage.

What will marriage mean when your children and grandchildren walk down the aisle? Will it mean what it means today, or will it mean something different? Together we can save the meaning of marriage.

Please make a donation of £20… £50… £100… or as much as you can afford. Please give generously.

Oh and here is the web link to the newspaper article about the lies and dishonesty of the Government over these proposals which I mentioned @7:10. Where they are advising ministers to "take up defensive positions" with the press exposed by a Freedom of Information request.

About His Grace:

Archbishop Cranmer takes as his inspiration the words of Sir Humphrey Appleby: ‘It’s interesting,’ he observes, ‘that nowadays politicians want to talk about moral issues, and bishops want to talk politics.’ It is the fusion of the two in public life, and the necessity for a wider understanding of their complex symbiosis, which leads His Grace to write on these very sensitive issues.

Cranmer's Law:

"It hath been found by experience that no matter how decent, intelligent or thoughtful the reasoning of a conservative may be, as an argument with a liberal is advanced, the probability of being accused of ‘bigotry’, ‘hatred’ or ‘intolerance’ approaches 1 (100%).”

Follow His Grace on

The cost of His Grace's conviction:

His Grace's bottom line:

Freedom of speech must be tolerated, and everyone living in the United Kingdom must accept that they may be insulted about their own beliefs, or indeed be offended, and that is something which they must simply endure, not least because some suffer fates far worse. Comments on articles are therefore unmoderated, but do not necessarily reflect the views of Cranmer. Comments that are off-topic, gratuitously offensive, libelous, or otherwise irritating, may be summarily deleted. However, the fact that particular comments remain on any thread does not constitute their endorsement by Cranmer; it may simply be that he considers them to be intelligent and erudite contributions to religio-political discourse...or not.

The Anglican Communion has no peculiar thought, practice, creed or confession of its own. It has only the Catholic Faith of the ancient Catholic Church, as preserved in the Catholic Creeds and maintained in the Catholic and Apostolic constitution of Christ's Church from the beginning.Dr Geoffrey Fisher, Archbishop of Canterbury, 1945-1961

British Conservatism's greatest:

The epithet of 'great' can be applied only to those who were defining leaders who successfully articulated and embodied the Conservatism of their age. They combined in their personal styles, priorities and policies, as Edmund Burke would say, 'a disposition to preserve' with an 'ability to improve'.

I am in politics because of the conflict between good and evil, and I believe that in the end good will triumph.Margaret Thatcher, Baroness Thatcher LG, OM, PC, FRS.(Prime Minister 1979-1990)

We have not overthrown the divine right of kings to fall down for the divine right of experts.Harold Macmillan, 1st Earl of Stockton, OM, PC.(Prime Minister 1957-1963)

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.Sir Winston Churchill, KG, OM, CH, TD, FRS, PC (Can).(Prime Minister 1940-1945, 1951-1955)

I am not struck so much by the diversity of testimony as by the many-sidedness of truth.Stanley Baldwin, 1st Earl Baldwin of Bewdley, KG, PC.(Prime Minister 1923-1924, 1924-1929, 1935-1937)

If you believe the doctors, nothing is wholesome; if you believe the theologians, nothing is innocent; if you believe the military, nothing is safe.Robert Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury, KG, GCVO, PC.(Prime Minister 1885-1886, 1886-1892, 1895-1902)

I am a Conservative to preserve all that is good in our constitution, a Radical to remove all that is bad. I seek to preserve property and to respect order, and I equally decry the appeal to the passions of the many or the prejudices of the few.Benjamin Disraeli KG, PC, FRS, Earl of Beaconsfield.(Prime Minister 1868, 1874-1880)

Public opinion is a compound of folly, weakness, prejudice, wrong feeling, right feeling, obstinacy, and newspaper paragraphs.Sir Robert Peel, Bt.(Prime Minister 1834-1835, 1841-1846)

I consider the right of election as a public trust, granted not for the benefit of the individual, but for the public good.Robert Jenkinson, 2nd Earl of Liverpool.(Prime Minister 1812-1827)

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.The Rt Hon. William Pitt, the Younger.(Prime Minister 1783-1801, 1804-1806)