Some old guy drugged and raped him. Kai woke up with man juice pouring out his mouth and attacked the guy. In the same situation you might go a little crazy too.

I honestly think, at that point, it should either be a justifiable homicide, OR jury nulification should come into play.

/on the same venue, I have no problem with a woman cutting the throat of her rapist, either.

If it's true, it would certainly be a mitigating factor. That's why we have degrees of murder. But if the evidence showed that his story was factual, I wouldn't convict him or anyone under such circumstances.

what would you do if you woke up with a groggy head, metallic taste in your mouth, in a strangers house... walked to the mirror and seen come dripping from the side of your face from your mouth, and started wretching, realizing that someone had drugged, raped, and blown their farkin load in you? what would you do?

/Justifiable homicide for whacking some old perv multiple times int he head as, 'YOU DID WHAT TO ME!!!!"//YaDaYaDa legal system blablabla answer to charges of justifiable homicide.///Well at least he is white, but that whole 'being a male' is going to hurt him in court if he gets a rightwing Judge who thinks that men can never be raped since they don't have a icky vagina.////FBI says men can be raped so hes got that going for him

Facebook exchange...Kai: what would you do if you woke up with a groggy head, metallic taste in your mouth, in a strangers house... walked to the mirror and seen come dripping from the side of your face from your mouth, and started wretching, realizing that someone had drugged, raped, and blown their farkin load in you? what would you do?Terry: Find them as fast as I could and SUH-MASH the shiat out of them with a hatchet or whatever else I could find!! Dude... Wtf? U serious?Kai: i like your idea terryTerry: fark man.. U prolly should've went to the cops! I didn't mean that literally man.. Holy shiat

/so there was some premeditation, but I still don't know if that invalidates his defense. Personally, I believe that I would vote him innocent if I was in the jury. That's some farked up shiat.

what would you do if you woke up with a groggy head, metallic taste in your mouth, in a strangers house... walked to the mirror and seen come dripping from the side of your face from your mouth, and started wretching, realizing that someone had drugged, raped, and blown their farkin load in you? what would you do?

I feel bad for him if he was sexually assaulted and then went on a murder rampage. But on the other hand I wish he would know better than to be a nomad relying on trusting people. Hopefully the truth comes out and he gets a fair trial.

Doubt it though. I just watched "The Central Park Five" so I'm even more suspicious of the criminal justice system.

Burning_Monk:Facebook exchange...Kai: what would you do if you woke up with a groggy head, metallic taste in your mouth, in a strangers house... walked to the mirror and seen come dripping from the side of your face from your mouth, and started wretching, realizing that someone had drugged, raped, and blown their farkin load in you? what would you do?Terry: Find them as fast as I could and SUH-MASH the shiat out of them with a hatchet or whatever else I could find!! Dude... Wtf? U serious?Kai: i like your idea terryTerry: fark man.. U prolly should've went to the cops! I didn't mean that literally man.. Holy shiat

/so there was some premeditation, but I still don't know if that invalidates his defense. Personally, I believe that I would vote him innocent if I was in the jury. That's some farked up shiat.

I believe that exchange happened after the fact. The most is shows is lack of remorse.

titwrench:Burning_Monk: Facebook exchange...Kai: what would you do if you woke up with a groggy head, metallic taste in your mouth, in a strangers house... walked to the mirror and seen come dripping from the side of your face from your mouth, and started wretching, realizing that someone had drugged, raped, and blown their farkin load in you? what would you do?Terry: Find them as fast as I could and SUH-MASH the shiat out of them with a hatchet or whatever else I could find!! Dude... Wtf? U serious?Kai: i like your idea terryTerry: fark man.. U prolly should've went to the cops! I didn't mean that literally man.. Holy shiat

/so there was some premeditation, but I still don't know if that invalidates his defense. Personally, I believe that I would vote him innocent if I was in the jury. That's some farked up shiat.

I believe that exchange happened after the fact. The most is shows is lack of remorse.

Yep, article says they met Saturday, body found Monday, facebook post on Tuesday. Hit the road Wednesday, got sick on Thursday, worse on Friday, died on Saturday, buried on Sunday. This is the end of Caleb "Kai" McGrundy.

Just a case of he said, he dead. If you think you've been drugged, go to the police and the hospital and get tested for signs of having been drugged. Homicide is optional, but for god's sake, get your blood tested for signs of drugging. With a good lawyer, a bit of fame, and drugs someone else put in your body you have a pretty good chance of walking. Just say the combination of the drugs and the rape made you do it. No jury is going to convict you if you were under the influence of drugs when you've been drugged and raped.

titwrench:Burning_Monk: Facebook exchange...Kai: what would you do if you woke up with a groggy head, metallic taste in your mouth, in a strangers house... walked to the mirror and seen come dripping from the side of your face from your mouth, and started wretching, realizing that someone had drugged, raped, and blown their farkin load in you? what would you do?Terry: Find them as fast as I could and SUH-MASH the shiat out of them with a hatchet or whatever else I could find!! Dude... Wtf? U serious?Kai: i like your idea terryTerry: fark man.. U prolly should've went to the cops! I didn't mean that literally man.. Holy shiat

/so there was some premeditation, but I still don't know if that invalidates his defense. Personally, I believe that I would vote him innocent if I was in the jury. That's some farked up shiat.

I believe that exchange happened after the fact. The most is shows is lack of remorse.

im looking at the facebook right now. "i like your idea terry" was posted Tuesday. 4 hours ago someone posted a link to the news article about murder and "fark man" was posted directly after that.

Some old guy drugged and raped him. Kai woke up with man juice pouring out his mouth and attacked the guy. In the same situation you might go a little crazy too.

Homeless guy kills trick, makes up story to cover his ass. News at 11.

Tell us more of your tricks of the trade. Is it true you guys will trade meth for a "San Francisco Bird Feeder"? Do you prefer to meet your tricks in airport bathrooms or municipal parks to avoid situations like this? It's a shame Kai hadn't met an expert like you beforehand, maybe you could have steered him to the right street corner. Thank you for not being afraid to speak up and give us your veteran analysis of the situation. Most of us lack the history of funneling old dude's hogs for a swig of Thuderbird, but thank goodness you stepped up and filled in the void.

Kai: what would you do if you woke up with a groggy head, metallic taste in your mouth, in a strangers house... walked to the mirror and seen come dripping from the side of your face from your mouth, and started wretching, realizing that someone had drugged, raped, and blown their farkin load in you? what would you do?

I'm going out on a limb and say something in Kai's past (molestation) triggered him to do this. IIRC, during an earlier interview, Kai mentioned something not too good happening in his past when he was younger.

Archimedes' Principal:I'm going out on a limb and say something in Kai's past (molestation) triggered him to do this. IIRC, during an earlier interview, Kai mentioned something not too good happening in his past when he was younger.