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Volrath's Stronghold Discussion

1 week ago

Coward_Token: Nice to see you here again!
Rhythm of the Wild
is definitely a card I've wanted to add since I first saw it, and I just got it this week! I think the riot on all creatures is super solid, and because the deck has many high cost creatures the "can't be countered" is so much better when you know you can (most likely) safely cast them. On the other hand,
Domri, Chaos Bringer
is only relevant with his +1 ability and planeswalkers in my meta will most likely die before they can be used again, which is why I replaced
Sarkhan Vol
with
Rhythm of the Wild
.

Yeah
Anger
is a tricky one, I've found that he's easiest to kill with political deals. For example I'll say "kill Anger with your blockers and you get to pick what Vaevictis targets of your stuff next time he attacks" and they'll agree on it.

1 week ago

Coward_Token: Nice to see you here again!
Rhythm of the Wild
is definitely a card I've wanted to add since I first saw it, and I just got it this week! I think the riot on all creatures is super solid, and because the deck has many high cost creatures the "can't be countered" is so much better when you know you can (most likely) safely cast them. On the other hand,
Domri, Chaos Bringer
is only relevant with his +1 ability and planeswalkers in my meta will most likely die before they can be used again, which is why I replaced
Sarkhan Vol
with
Rhythm of the Wild
.

Yeah
Anger
is a tricky one, I've found that he's easiest to kill with political deals. For example I'll say "kill Anger with your blockers and you get to pick what Vaevictis targets of your stuff next time he attacks" and they'll agree on it.

2 weeks ago

Wandering Fumarole
is a main board pick for me, mainly due to the low density of creatures that control decks usually carries, so a land that can turn into a win condition against other control decks, or a blocker against more aggressive decks is very much needed. I would trade it out for
Lavaclaw Reaches
due to the fact that its colors are a lot easier to get to and add to your deck based on how wizards seems to not like the enemy color pairings but its also more expensive than a pick I would rather use over lavaclaw:
Mishra's Factory
, since it can be a very cheap attacker that allows you to keep up counter magic more effectively and turn it into a 3/3 after summoning sickness passes when you need to block. on the topic of lands
City of Brass
does more harm to you than good, especially against aggressive matchups, or storm.

Red Elemental Blast
seems like a very specific pick, I'm wondering what kind of meta garners that kind of pick, but i'm not judging.

Liliana of the Veil
is a good card, however I don't see how she fits with the decks overall strategy, yes she discards fueling delve, and makes an opponent sacrifice a creature, but resolving her doesn't win the game in the way
Jace, the Mind Sculptor
does, nor does she have the broad utility that you need for her to be that good in this type of deck. She's not good for card advantage and in fact it enables reanimator strategies where she's played in and helps decks that are more efficient than you are get ahead, and her creature removing capabilities are hindered by opposing tokens (which in that case I recommend
Pyroclasm
). she's a good card, but she doesn't do that much for you.

Stifle
is more of a tempo pick, but if it works it works, however if your looking for a better version that has more of a control outlook try
Disallow
.

3 weeks ago

mrdehring - I do like
Scrying Sheets
, and I didn't even know
Rimescale Dragon
existed. I put 'em both in there. I might not have enough snow permanents, but I'm hoping Sheets will give me even a little bit of repeatable card advantage with whatever leftover mana.

And that dragon is just awesome haha, late game he just shuts down every other creature. I don't think I can find a spot for the other snow cards, unfortunately.

In regards to adding more infinite combos, I try to stay away from them for the most part because I enjoy playing the game, not just winning the game. My original plans for the deck had
Paradox Engine
and
Intruder Alarm
in it but I just wasn't feeling it. I wanted to keep cards that I enjoyed playing and have never played before.

Some of the expensive cards I have in the deck are because they are helpful and provide value, such as
The Immortal Sun
and
Volrath's Stronghold
. Some of them are in the deck because I have never played them before and I think they could be good in the deck and fun to play, like
Karn Liberated
. I completely understand finding cheaper alternate cards but I want this to be my subjectively strongest EDH deck + one of my favs to play.

Thx for the feedback though, and I may consider building an infinite combo
Sliver Overlord
deck with some of the cards you mentioned.

2 months ago

You are very right about responses, this deck does not feature any direct responses besides the controlling element of it - it is, however, not a duel commander deck, and is mostly played in multiplayer.

Volrath's Stronghold occurrence in decks from the last year

Commander / EDH:

All decks: 0,04%

Black: 0,34%

Golgari: 0,09%

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