This water thing can be pretty annoying sometimes. I've always kept cichlids and they've been fine, in fact they do pretty well, my fry are growing quickly, other the other hand these bettas just hate it and it doesn't do much for em.

Looks like I'm gonna have another batch of eggs from my cons tonight. If anybody is interested pm me. They have half black half pink. Unless some are marble aswell but I can tell at this stage.

This is why you see so many chichlid breeders here I used to be one of them.

The water here is ok to keep adult betta with proper care of couse.

As a betta breeder Ive given up and must use a mix of tap rain or ro water to lower gh and kh...even ph for the spawn tank. Also curls and taters fins of even well kept betta. So to thrive adjustments must be made imo.

Yeah I'm really into the cichlids still. Had a 2 pairs of flowerhorns before. But I've noticed some of the curled fins in past bettas I've had. Also, does IAL help much in lowering pH or do does it not do enough but just a tad

Yeah I bred some nasty big Oscars with ease in this water. Usually ial lowers ph in most peoples water. Here it does very little that way. Its that hard and stable. Also stability of ph gh and kh is critical. Playing with it and making error can cause fluctuations which can cause more problems to betta than just living with the issues. It really only causes me major problems with the hatching of the eggs.

Thanks royal. Yes it helps to stay positive. They are a well fed group of fry and much easier to take care of for sure than hundreds. Might just grow them out in the same 10g tank cuz so few of them. Thankfully the ones that managed to hatch look very healthy.

We have a fry in this spawn that not sure what is up. The gimpy fry seems to not be able to float very well and sinks easy, struggles to get to the surface but can. Back end sinks faster. Is this a swim bladder issue caused by over feeding bbs possibly or a genetic thing. There is only 10 fry in the spawn and do not wish to cull. Is there anything I can do to help this fry? Ive not encountered this before any advise is appreciated.

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