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Antecedants to Big 12 Instability

Good article that helps put everything in to perspective on how we got to the problems with the conference. Plenty of blame to be thrown around , from Nebraska's heavy reliance on partial-qualifiers to revenue-sharing that benefitted dominant programs. Plenty of stink, and a clear check-list of what needs to be addressed.

Re: Antecedants to Big 12 Instability

The biggest thing that sticks out in all of this, is that Texas, Nebraska, aTm, and Oklahoma all originally voted for unequal revenue sharing. And look at which programs caused all of this trouble? Mizzou may be the exception, but all of these played huge parts in potentially breaking up the conference....

Re: Antecedants to Big 12 Instability

thanks for the link. Insightful read.

A lot of things I didn't know about the reformation history of Big XII (or knew only parts of it).

Especially wasn't in the know about attempts to form Big 12 network, then having it work in the B1G, which (along with some semblance of respect for tradition) shows why one league is airtight and the other is volatile.

As long as that unequal-partners environment persists — it isn't going to work.

Re: Antecedants to Big 12 Instability

Originally Posted by cyclones500

thanks for the link. Insightful read.

A lot of things I didn't know about the reformation history of Big XII (or knew only parts of it).

Especially wasn't in the know about attempts to form Big 12 network, then having it work in the B1G, which (along with some semblance of respect for tradition) shows why one league is airtight and the other is volatile.

As long as that unequal-partners environment persists — it isn't going to work.

Re: Antecedants to Big 12 Instability

Good article that helps put everything in to perspective on how we got to the problems with the conference. Plenty of blame to be thrown around , from Nebraska's heavy reliance on partial-qualifiers to revenue-sharing that benefitted dominant programs. Plenty of stink, and a clear check-list of what needs to be addressed.

Thanks for posting. Great read.

Z

The grass always looks greener, on the other side of the fence, but the dog over there might be meaner, on the other side of the fence… Stay in your own yard, play in your own yard!

Re: Antecedants to Big 12 Instability

Good read, but it didn't really tell us much that we didn't already know. Essentially, it said Texas is a cancer. As soon as we invited them into the conference, they immediately started calling the shots, and most of the rest of the league just allowed them to, causing things to get worse and worse as time goes on.

Now, getting rid of Texas isn't the answer, but if it's a cancer, we just need to do everything that we can as a conference to make sure that we get it in remission.

Re: Antecedants to Big 12 Instability

Originally Posted by cyrocksmypants

Good read, but it didn't really tell us much that we didn't already know. Essentially, it said Texas is a cancer. As soon as we invited them into the conference, they immediately started calling the shots, and most of the rest of the league just allowed them to, causing things to get worse and worse as time goes on.

Now, getting rid of Texas isn't the answer, but if it's a cancer, we just need to do everything that we can as a conference to make sure that we get it in remission.

According to KSU fans:

Yes the prop 48 was huge to nebraska

Yeah, and I bet in your little self-absorbed Big Red World, you didn't know that vote went 10-2, not 11-1. K-State was also dependent on Prop 48 athletes, and sided with NU. What did that earn us? Contempt from a-holes like you because you didn't get your way. Unlike you, we didn't pout for 15 years about the outcome, because we understand how democracy works. No Prop 48s? OK. We'll adapt, and focus on JuCos instead. Result? KSU enjoyed unparalleled success. NU with their breath held and their arms folded, and watched their Big Red Empire slowly crumble...

Yes, the league going south was huge to the Huskers.

Again with the Big Red self-absorption. That vote went 7-5 (not 11-1), all schools around KC voted against it. You have to ask why the Oklahoma and Colorado schools sided with the Texans, however? CU was especially po'd that NU acted in the Big 8 the way NU thinks UT acts in the Big 12, and saw that as an opportunity to "get back" at what they saw as the KC Mafia. I'm still not happy about that, but unlike you, I still understand how democracy works in a conference.

Yes....OU leaving NU the rivalry was huge

Why blame the whole Big 12? That's an OU issue. It seems to me the only team you should REALLY be mad at is OU, which ironically is the only Big 12 team you all seem to like for some odd reason. You had the opportunity to ask for permanent N/S rivals like the SEC does with permanent E/W rivals. OU said "no". You could have scheduled OU as non-conference games, the Sooners said "no". Makes me wonder why OU doesn't want to play you all any more? Perhaps now we know why.

Yes the game never CCG never coming back to the North was huge

Here's where your selfishness interferes and ultimately ruins the Big 12. The financial impact of the games in Dallas dwarfs them being in KC. Everybody wins. But you all don't apparently need the "money" even though the smaller schools are desperate for every dollar. You want only what's good for NU, which I guess is usually ok, but when what's good for NU HARMS the conference you're in, perhaps you did the right thing by leaving. You all were the classic conference "team cancer".

Yes, being on pay per view was terrible for Nebraska

You know what you all told us when we complained we weren't on TV as often as you and OU were? "Get better". Good advice, I say.

Yes, all these things were huge....and Nebraska could never vote for an equal share if the other 3 big schools were going to get theirs

This makes no sense. Try again, using something other than "Husker logic"?

And MU and CU were always threatening to leave....for years
This might be your only logical response. Yes, that's true, so perhaps we should thank the Big 12 for delaying what ultimately would have happened to the Big 8. Both MU and CU were trying to find ways to leave the conference as far back as the 1980s. OU publicly talked about going independent. Both OU and NU tried to kick K-State out of the Big 8 and invite Arkansas in the mid-80s. The Big 8 was not the "happy family" you claim it to have been. This has obviously been exposed in the past few years.

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