GD> This has to be one of the longest message in history of this echo, or GD> maybe close to it, You probably are like most men, longer is better. GD> I will cut through the fluff.

You're the one who brought up the "longer is better" thing, so you seem rather pre-occupied with it. It's not something I think of as there are far more important matters to be concerned about.

Also, I noticed the "fluff" you cut out were valid points and questions, specifically about Trump's incoherent, rambling speech to the Boy Scouts of America. I was a Cub Scout as a kid, and chosenot to move on to the Boy Scouts when I got older, but I have many friends and family members who did, and some who still are involved with the organization. Even the conservative ones are apalled atTrump's campaign-style speech to a group of children.

MM>> *SNORT* Instead of Trump being talked about in the USA once a MM>> week when his TV show was on, He's being talked about EVERY DAY, MM>> ALL OVER THE WORLD. For a man that reportedly can't pay attention MM>> to an intelligence briefing unless his name is frequently MM>> mentioned, that has to be an ego boost. Hell, he has even said MM>> in speeches and tweeted about how many people are talking about MM>> him on a daily basis.

GD> Yes I remember him saying something about at the one of the Rally's GD> that I attended and I do recall him saying this at other rally's as GD> well, you misunderstand this for blustering and arrogance it is GD> neither, he was talking about the movement and the effect that he had GD> of the thousands who were in attendance, My wife and I were just 2 of GD> 17000 in Albany, NY. I knows how to fire up a crowd and he unlike most GD> is keeping most of his campaign promises, and no I am not worried with GD> the word most because its only been 6 mo and a number of days, he is GD> not even warmed up yet. Infact he has done more in this short amount GD> of time than Obama has done in 8 years, never once have I ever heard GD> Trump apologize for America, and that is one thing that I will not GD> hear in his next 7 1/2 years as President. America has its swagger GD> back.

As said previously, he is an amazing salesman. He has most definitely not done more in 6 months than Obama did in 8 years.

Well, I take that back, he's golfed a hell of a lot more. As of July 5, Obama golfed 8 days, Trump golfed 19. Also, you managed to cut out the "fluff" where I have first-hand information fromcitizens of other countries on how they, and their fellow citizens feel about America under Trump. (hint: it's not good)

MM>> Wonderful! Although this figure is based on the number of people MM>> caught trying to cross the southern border. There are plenty of MM>> ways to get into the country other than over the US/Mexican MM>> border. the FAKE NEWS website Politifact rated Trump's statement MM>> as True, however, so I'm conflicted on if I should believe it or MM>> not.

GD> You missed the point with what the fact states, you need to pay GD> attention to the words. The fact Illegal Immigration is down 67% so GD> no it does not mean that they were caught, it means that 67% are GD> not attempting to come here.

It means 67% fewer were caught attempting to come here. That is the fact. I will admit it is a fairly reliable way of measurement, however, at least for those crossing the southern border.

MM>> Finally, such a "Travel Ban" goes against everything our country MM>> stands for. only cowards are afraid of terrorists. You're not a MM>> coward, are you?

GD> Call it a public service, if these bad people come here and threaten GD> me or my family, they will find out real quick the true meaning of GD> courage. It has nothing to do with cowardice, it is called smart and GD> the right thing to do. It is amazing to that people do not understand GD> and can not seem to wrap your head around this fact that these people GD> people cutting off heads and other terrorists do not care of your GD> political affiliation or even if you affiliated with any party, they GD> will slaughter you just as well if you are an American citizen.

Hear Disease threatens you far more than terroists. What are you doing about that? or drunk drivers? or cancer? or choking on food? or being shot by a police officer? Or drowning? or falling offsomething? Diabetes, Alzheimers, Strokes, Poisoning, fire, car accidents, "accidental" gunshots, animal attacks, sharp object accidents, or even just walking? All of those have a much higher chanceof killing you than a foreign-born terrorist.

You have a better chance of being struck and killed by lightning, an asteroid, or even dying from a shark attack than from a refugee terrorist, or illegal immigrant terrorist, as well!

GD> Tell Kate Steinle's family or the other families who lost loved ones, GD> that this was a dick move. You're holding up a single death by a stray bullet that was fired by an illegal immigrant? when there are over 30,000 people killed in our country by guns every year by citizens? Sounds like you'recherry picking data, I should start calling you Timmy.

MM>> You have yet to demonstrat he puts America First,

GD> I don't have too he won, I am not going to point out what you are GD> unable to comprehend.

I have admitted he won. (Maybe not by the popular vote, but he is our legal President). I still don't know how he is Making America Great, though. Is he trying to bring us back a time in the past?When exactly was that? can you point out a date?

MM>> GD> To date the Trump Administration has had two incidents of MM>> dropping MM>> GD> bombs, once case was launching tomahawk missiles to take out MM>> a air MM>> GD> field of a madman, gassing his own people. -ex talk about MM>> innocent MM>> GD> civilians. The other time was dropping the MOAB (Mother of MM>> all bombs) MM>> GD> to crush these cockroaches also known as terrorists. MM>> And civilians. so many civilians. so many children...

GD> Riddle me this what are children doing at a Military air strip. Do you GD> even know that a that a tomahawk is guided by GPS.

This is the problem with you FAKE NEWS affectionados. If someone reports something your worldview doesn't agree with, you shout "FAKE NEWS!" and ignore it. I assure you, the USA bombs more thanairstrips. Stop living in a bubble.

MM>> You can't be this dumb, can you? UNSKILLED labor, is the kind MM>> of labor that picks your crops, manufactures the clothes you MM>> wear, makes those TV dinners and snack-foods you like so much. MM>> UNSKILLED labor works in paper mills, foundries, steel mills, MM>> COAL MINES, etc. pretty much any manufacturing industry depends MM>> upon UNSKILLED LABOR.

GD> I would not classify any of these jobs as unskilled. But I did hear GD> the farmers are worried now they will actually have to consider to pay GD> people a decent wage to work.

Doesn't matter what you classify them as, this is what they ARE classified as. You've conveniently missed the point though that these jobs are being shipped overseas, and people can't afford to goto college to learn a trade to become SKILLED labor.

MM>> We are not talking about Hillary Clinton. The election is over. MM>> Clinton lost. If we're going to Make America Great Again, we MM>> certainly can't do it by attacking THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE MM>> CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

GD> When people use this against us what then, freedom of religion and so GD> on. common sense must override and rule the day when the innocent is GD> being slaughtered, based on religion. All terrorists are not Muslim, GD> but most terrorists are Muslim.

most terroists in the world are, at this time in history, Muslim. this is true. However more mass attacks on Americans have come from non-muslim, American-born citizens over the last 20 years, by apretty wide margin.

MM>> I was honestly ready to give Trump a chance, but the minute Sean MM>> Spicer took the podium on January 21, 2017 to chastize the press MM>> for reporting accurate information on crowd sizes,

GD> That business of crowd size was a sham, its called being pissed off GD> that he won, ok he won but the crowd size was not as big as Obama's in GD> at sad attempt to discredit the man even on the first day. This is GD> also known as the origin where the fake news began. The fact that you GD> can not see that means, that no chance was given.

My god, you don't even know where "Fake news" began? People were reporting on it long before the election. There were completely false news articles floating around on the internet on websitesdisguised as legit news agencies that were trying to influence the election. The majority of them seemed to attack the Clinton campaign, but there were definitely some that went after Trump as well.These articles would get shared over and over on Facebook and Twitter because people are stupid and they don't bother to check facts on what they read.

THAT is what "Fake news" was and is. The "Failing New York Times" (that currently has record subscriber growth), is not "Fake news". nor is CNN, or MSNBC, or even Fox News. Most, if not all, ofthese agencies employ fact-checking and require multiple sources before they try to run with a story. Sometimes stories will get run that have inaccuracies, and the reputation of the agency takes ahit. Often times the organization will issue a retraction if that is the case in an attempt to repair their reputation. However when it happens over and over and over again, that's when anorganization becomes non-trustworthy in the eyes of the public.

We hear about mistakes more now-days than we did 30 years ago because of the public's need for information 24/7. I don't consider any of the 24-hour news agencies "reliable" sources if they arebreaking a story, as their #1 goal is to get that story out the door as quickly as possible. However, once a story is out there, and once others have a chance to look it over and contact othersources about it, then it becomes reliable. NEVER, EVER, EVER believe a story that comes from a single news source, no matter how reliable that source may be. That is how you avoid "Fake news".