bTape is full of sh*t and makes retarded assumptions, any 1 you make on his sites isn't because his sites are awful, it's "revenge." So if you saw a sh*tty site of his and voted, that wasn't a real vote. That was a venge vote. Just FYI and the DL on BigBrother.

are you saying that you took 15 minutes to make that fractal, or that 4.37 is too low a rating for your standards? But yeah I hear ya MrSinistar, I've spent long hours making a few of my sites only to have them end up with an average 20 votes, 150 views and 3.7 rating.

How? This still would have been in up and coming regardless of whether or not I was featured. Being featured had nothing to do with the site's rating. I've made plenty of sites below 4. This is a reflection of the types of expectations of the majority of users found on ytmnd, more than anything. It shows that most come here for a cheap laugh, and they don't mind a site as dumb as nails as long as its amusing to them. That being said, I hope original creative content is rewarded more than this.

In general, I do think there is a problem with the featured user section, because there is a lot of crap being made, and it takes the space of more deserving sites, and that's why there should be a worthwhile section with a threshold of around 4.0-4.4 instead.

What can I say? Uncle phil is a popular fad. If I used brian peppers it wouldn't have been rated so high. And I didn't think this would either. The only thing you usually get out of being a featured users is more views thats pretty much it. Look at bob the builder's crap lately. Do you see it on up and coming? No. If you really want me to make you a site to submit, fine. I'll think of something :P

I don't even click on ytmnds in the Featured Users section, I doubt many others do. It's just common sense. It's just another Recently Created, i.e. crap that i would rather not sift through. I'll watch it if it shows up on U&C thank you very much

Oh Umfuld. I remember when you were never on this silly crusade against sites you didn't like, and that Umfuld was a better user in general. I don't care about ratings. How many times do I have to reiterate this? Just because you don't like a site doesn't mean it has an ill-gotten rating. And there isn't much you can do about it except whine, and that's just annoying. I have never asked anyone to upvote my sites, and I have never voted highly on other sites in the hopes I would get fives in return.

cube, 8 out of 10 YTMNDs are not worth a 5. Yet that's how you vote. I don't doubt that you've never begged for 5s. Good for you. But that one site, that gay unfunny video game one from a few months ago, I seen when that was posted and it got like 12 5s in less time than it took to watch it through. Whether by your efforts or not your sites are overrated. And your featured status - along with most - is the reason top viewed sites get about 1/3 the views they were getting before the pre-featured gayness. Not saying it was your idea or anything - but just saying your sites more or less suck and featuring users like you - no matter your avg. score is failing. 18 of today's Top 30 Viewed are featured. Hi Max!

There's only one problem with your observation. I don't just vote on every ytmnd I see. I usually vote on up and coming stuff only and sometimes the featured user section. That's why you see me vote 5s usually. If I voted on every ytmnd I saw, I would go crazy with boredom. Also, I like how you assume your opinion is god, and therefore everyone else should think my sites suck too. Thanks a lot. Get over your superiority complex and realize not everyone thinks like you, or should think like you.

Like I said before, its not my fault featured users take up most of top viewed, and as I have already stated I would rather not have featured users at all. And tell me, what kind of ytmnds do you like? If my ytmnds are so awful, why don't you make something "better" and show it to me? Stuff like Clive Owen's nintendo site, is kind of what the majority of ytmnd is made up of...and always has been. So you are betting against the majority here.

Umfuld, stop being a f*cking crusader. If you don't like what the majority likes, then stop wasting your time with Top Viewed and just do searches for the stuff you DO like. Also, wisdumcube has had numerous sites on Top Viewed before he was featured, and if you think about it, most of the featured users are featured because they've capable of doing the same. being featured isn't the only thing making sites appear on top viewed.

thats true, there are some good YTMND'ers out there that do make good sites and get on top15, but im still saying that if like me, or kittyblender, or some other user posted this, it would be downvoted to hell.

So you are basically saying that most people vote based on the user and not the ytmnd? In general, I don't think that happens. But I suppose it is a possibility in certain situations (i.e. garnering more downvotes if you are a dick to other users). If you really want to test out that theory I will make you a site.

Considering how many times I've been getting revenge downvoted lately, I would say you're being naive. There are a lot of people who upvote Fourest, just because he's Fourest, and on the flip site there are a lot of people who downvote him just because he's Fourest.

Yes there are revenge downvoters, and shameless upvoters, but I think you are overstating their significance. The majority of users don't form relationships with other users so they don't have grudges, and they don't blindly upvote their friends either. These are the guys who only visit the site maybe once or twice a week. I think there aren't enough abusers to make or break a site...well I guess there are exceptions. Like if you kiss everyone's *ss then you probably get a nice boost or something.

But where do you draw the line? How do you know if its a revenge downvote or if it is just someone that doesn't like your site? When do you know its *ss kissing and when its just someone who is a lenient voter?
When do the conspiracies end and reality begins? I hate having debates on ytmnd because its mostly speculation and people are just going to believe what appeals to them the most. (i.e. I don't like this site, but its high rated so it must because he votes five a lot and gets a lot of returning fives)

If I stopped making sites right now, I would still vote the exact same way. I don't care about high ratings. I don't want *ss kissing. I just want to make whatever, and not be criticized at every turn. I feel like I have to justify everything I do even though there should be no need to. It's just ridiculous.

ytmnd users can be so pathetic sometimes. But still, this is not going to change much. Only alt downvoting can really hurt your sites. And there isn't a lot of people like this, otherwise only new users would have sites in up and coming as everything else would be downvoted out of spite.