A Different TBS “Alien” Available on Force Friday?

As Yoda said, “Difficult to see. Always in motion is the future.” but we now believe that the “alien” in wave 2 of the 6″ Black Series may in fact be someone else entirely and NOT Chewbacca as we previously theorized. Click on through to check out the latest development as we prepare for Force Friday 2.

Based on the code names attributed to each character (in the Black Series and basic 3.75″ lines) and some recent images we’ve seen, there’s a strong possibility that “Alien 1” is in fact Maz Kanata who was just revealed at SDCC. We hope to get additional confirmation on this soon.

Also regarding the divisive look of the Elite Praetorian Guard that is also a part of wave 2, it looks MUCH cooler as a Black Series figure, and it is of a different design than the Jakks “Big Fig” Elite Guard that we’ve all seen floating around for a while now.

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Spoke with 6 different walmart stores in the area. Managers of the stores, 1 to 2 boxes per store for 3 3/4 figures only. Again Hasbro drops the ball. So to aal of those to waste time on a SPECIAL release Friday good luck. Also will have tickets passed out

Ryan M

My walmart is always a free for all. They usually have a nice display of everything on a skid

Great news if this turns out to be the case. I love me some Chewie, but he wasn’t exactly the biggest seller and can still be had pretty inexpensively. Not to mention the dozens of them I saw at a Toys R Us in Japan in June. Maz makes more sense. Give 6″ Chewie a rest until the Han Solo film.

Paul

I don’t know, once you do Maz you may need to get Chewie out pretty quick. She likes that Wookie.

MicroCapo

I just had Deja Vu. Did you post this exact comment, word for word, elsewhere?

Maz makes sense as with both wave 1 and 2 they’re getting us the biggest characters we haven’t gotten from Ep 7 with Luke and Leia. Throw in Maz and we’re just left with needing Snoke to got every primary and secondary character from TFA. And we know he’s coming with his throne as a Gamestop exclusive, may be available 09/01 but probably not, and probably as a single packed character at some point as well

Seronious

Ep 7 Snoke is coming in the gamestop throne exclusive on 9/1 from what I saw. So, everything will mostly be in there. I guess, the only other secondary character i’d like to see from that movie is Unkar Plutt.

Paul

The GS exclusive victor throne line item didn’t have the SD 09/01 next to the listing like the BS figures that have been confirmed as FF releases so I’m not expecting it on FF but I’d love to be wrong.

Do you have any info on the Guards of Evil 4 pack that you can share; is it another evolutions pack like the EE exclusive clone to FO stormtrooper pack, is it the other praetorian guards, or something else entirely?

Joseph Tate

Yeah info on the 4 pack would be great. I tried to see if they were available for pre order, but was shot down.

RumSleg

Hmm. Is Maz even in The Last Jedi?

DarthLocke4

I believe so—And it makes sense she would be.

Most likely the mythology is going to expand, which means it makes the prequels more relevant to this story, but also it may go beyond the prequels…

Snoke and Maz are both older than Yoda, so if there is some kind of origin story relating to either The Willis, The Chosen One, and/or The Jedi and The Sith (Luke says, “The Jedi Must End” implying some kind of cycle cosmology), then these two characters are most likely the ones that are carrying info (Maz) and/or trying to gain (snoke) something from it.

Plus in some of Lucas’ early drafts the Jedi were originally going to be called Jedi Bendu (now Rebels has created a Bendu into a character instead) and the Sith were Sith KNIGHTS . So now we have this Knights of Ren buisness, which may be an evolution of the Acolytes of the Beyond (star was new cannon full of life-extension ideas) and the word “Ren” reminds me of ERraNT, as in the former non-cannon Knights of Errant…It feels like it should all tie-in together.

when I first heard the name kylo ren… I thought it was some mess up or joke cuz it sounded too similar to Kybo ren…

Paul

Wait, Snoke is older than Yoda? I didn’t know that.

DarthLocke4

I don’t believe there is any exact date yet, but I swore Abrams or Serkis mentioned something about this prior to TFA release. I can’t find it. I apologize.

Wookiepedia sites it as sometime before 19 BBY, but that is prequel-era territory–so perhaps it’s better to say he may have been involved bts in prequel/pre-prequel events–but there is probably an association to Yoda , the Emporer, or The Jedi Temple on courasaunt — which was somehow built on top of a Sith Shrine…

But I know Maz Kanata is officially over a millennia

Paul

Oh yeah Maz is old, she’s real old.

Maz is so old her last name is “osaurus”
Maz is so old when she went to school there was no history class.
Maz is so old her birth certificate expired

and our number one Maz is so old joke…

Maz is so old she used to babysit Yoda.

P.S. no need to apologize i was just wondering if I missed that as info on Snoke has been so sparse.

DarthLocke4

Thanks for that! XD

I genuinely thought I read that somewhere, but maybe I have just been reading too many Star Wars theories! XD

I wonder if she’s hanging with the Resistance now or if they’re going to bring her back in some other way. Do the TFA deleted scenes count as part of her story, or could they be contradicted? As far as the official movie is concerned, we have no idea where she went or what she did after handing Finn the saber in the rubble of her castle, right?

Michael Howe

“A good question…for another time…”

RumSleg

🙂 That line was a giant piece of BULLPLOP among many other similar lines in TFA. Keeping secrets from the audience for no good reason.

You’re right. “No, there is another” from Yoda was complete drivel as well. How dare the writers trying to tell an expansive narrative in more than one film?

Lando Griffin

At least we got the answer to “there is another.” And we do have 2 more movies to get the answer as to where Maz came across Luke’s lightsaber. And it better be more than “I found it floating in space. I left the hand.”

Paul

I think we’ll find out in a comic or a book. I don’t think there will be a need to answer it in the films, unless Luke meets Maz at some point and asks the question.

RumSleg

Agreed. If they couldn’t work the explanation into the plot of TFA, it would seemingly be tougher to work it into another film. Unless the story of how she got it is somehow of greater relevance to the overall plot, which could be kind of weird.

Paul

Agreed.

Paulskywalker

So many impatient people today, not liking their movies leaving them with questions for the next movie. People even refer to them as plotholes when they’re just unresolved story elements.

RumSleg

Oh come on. 🙂 What I’m getting at is secrets from the audience versus secrets from the characters. Rey knew more about herself and her background than was passed on to the audience. Han seemed to know something more about her and we didn’t get to see what he told Maz on screen. Leia sure seemed to know something more about her, based on the fact she sent Rey to fetch Luke, and hugged her so strongly despite never having met her before, as far as we know. Kylo and Snoke both seemed to have their antenna up about that “girl”.

In A New Hope, Luke was kind of a blank slate, living in the desert. Luke and the audience discovered the wider galaxy together, and there was nothing important that Luke knew that the audience didn’t know. We related to Luke and were content with what he learned about his father from Obi-Wan, even though that turned out to be far from the whole truth.

Rey is supposed to be the Luke of this new story, but we can’t relate to Rey in the same way we did Luke, because she’s obviously not a blank slate in the same way. She’s got an important, unknown history, and it’s “classified”, “big secret”.

If anyone in TFA is a stand-in for the audience, it’s Finn discovering the world outside of the First Order. But so much of the movie isn’t from his perspective, and Rey is the hero, so the connection isn’t as strong.

CT-7567

Agreed.

RumSleg

Come on, man. I know you’re weary of the fanboys complaining about every little thing in the toys and the movies, but maybe take the sarcasm off the hair trigger. Your comparison isn’t fair. “There is another” came out of nowhere, and it foreshadowed a fun plot development for another movie, but if the line had been omitted, the movie wouldn’t have been received any differently.

TFA as a whole and the lightsaber mystery were very different. We’d been wondering what happened to Luke’s hand and lightsaber for 35 years. From all the promos, we knew going into the movie that the lightsaber would feature prominently. Then through the first half of the movie we were beaten over the head with the mysteries surrounding Rey. And they weren’t mysteries that the characters in the movie are trying to solve. They were mysteries to the audience because we weren’t shown what the characters know, because they wouldn’t talk about it, or the scene cut away.
(E.g.:
“Classified. Really? Me too. Big secret.”
“I know all about waiting… For my family. They’ll be back. One day.”
“I gotta get back to Jakku! “BACK TO JAK–?! Why does everyone always wanna go back to Jakku?!”
Kylo: “WHAT girl?” [cutaway before Mitaka’s explanation]
Maz: “Who’s the girl?” [cutaway before Han’s explanation])

To say nothing of being plopped down in the middle part of a story (this story began when Kylo turned and Luke went into exile).

So by the time we get to Han asking Maz “Where’d you get that?”, – after all these new questions are raised – I think it was fair to be frustrated that the answer to a question we’ve been wondering about since 1980 (paraphrasing) is “we know the answer but you have to wait at least another two years to find out”.

Paul

Man I was going to respond too but you covered everything I was going to say regarding this build up to Anakin/Luke’s saber being found and featuring prominently in this new trilogy.

I will say that I haven’t wondered what happened to it for as long as others but as soon as Abrams came out and said the saber we hear igniting at the end of the first teaser trailer for TFA is Luke’s blue saber the questions of how, when, why, who about the saber immediately became as pressing as what’s happened in this universe, and with these characters for the last thirty two years.

Why? Because the writers and the director made it such an important point in the lead up to the film and the film itself.

RumSleg

YES. The other reason I’ve always wondered about it was because it was such a big part of the Thrawn trilogy. The hand was used to create Luuke, and Anakin’s saber became Mara’s after she killed Luuke.

Paul

YEP.

CT-7567

Lots of Eu stuff has been lifted by Disney. Ben was Mara and Luke’s son’s name and they changed it to Han and Leia’s son. The survival of the blue saber..

RumSleg

Not to mention the rumors that one opening scene for the movie was going to be the hand and saber floating through space and crashing down on Jakku or something. THAT would have answered the mystery right there.

Paul

That’s right. I had forgotten about that.

CT-7567

I never wondered about the saber and hand. I assumed they fell down to the bowels of Cloud City. Or Vader gave them to the Emperor as a trophy so C’baoth could clone Luke in Heir to the Empire. 🙂

General Hux

Bingo!!

Norman

I agree. Lucas knew how to write a story with intrigue and have that pay-off. Abrams knows how to write a mystery box but has no idea how to answer said questions raised. TFA was poodoo. Kasden knows how to polish a script and he does so remarkably well. Abrams knows….well, I guess he can direct as long as he is not the creative force behind set design, creature design and certainly NOT the story creator. Kasden and Abrams cannot design a saga well to save their lives, but what they do, yes, they do well. Funny that I thought the ONLY new character in TFA that was interesting was Rey and I found out today she was one of the few things to come from lucas’ ideas about the new trilogy. Ok, Maz was kinda cool too…and I hope her figures goggles make her eyes bigger like in the movie!

RumSleg

Overall I still enjoyed TFA, but I admit to harboring a grudge against Abrams because I was so enthralled by the first two seasons of LOST and it went downhill so badly.

CT-7567

Lost became a total mess. I felt like I was stupid for not understanding what was going on. Then I realized it had just become a ridiculous show.

Hazzbro Jonez

really? where did you read that rey-lucas-idea story???

Michael Howe

So, TFA’s version of Obi-Wan’s “From a Certain Point-of-View?”

General Hux

That’s why it’s a trilogy… 🙂 Not everything needs to be explained in one.

CT-7567

I could agree with that. But Rey kicking Kylo’s butt and pulling off mind tricks with no knowledge of the force? That needed to be explained. And “she was Force-hypnotized into forgetting her training before she was left on Jakku” is way too easy an explanation. And, imo, that’s not how the Force works. 🙂

General Hux

I guess we’ll find out, won’t we? 🙂

CT-7567

Would you want Force-hypnotized to be the explanation for her abilities in TFA? 🙂 And if that is the explanation, why not just have Luke reverse it. Why train her? In TFA she’s depicted as being stronger and better trained than Luke at the time he first fought Vader. Btw, I like Rey as a character. I just want her to be better developed.

General Hux

I wanted her to be more developed as well…And I’m sure she will, she is the main character after all. 🙂

CT-7567

I really want TLJ to be awesome. Then IX can be awesome. But how do you feel about her being hypnotized? I find it a bit of a cop out. Idk why they didn’t just have her fight Kylo in tge second film. Or even better, get her butt kicked like Luke did. I like flawed heroes. 🙂

General Hux

Hypnotized? No thank you, I also believe that would be a lame cop out, bit I feel like there is other good ways to explain it.

CT-7567

I hope so. That footage of her training with the saber in the trailer gives me chills. I also think Daisy Ridley is excellent in the role and with the material given to her. I really want Rey to become a well developed character and actually deserve to be a legacy SW character. Just saying”ok, shes powerful just because” in TFA just didn’t cut it for me. A good explanation for those powered in TLJ could totally change my opinion of her actions in TFA. In fact, after seeing a new SW movie, I always go home and watch the last one. Like watching TPM after seeing AOTC. I’m hoping after seeing TLJ I’m going to want to watch TFA again to make some connections.

Paul

She is. Lupita N’yongo talked about filming her scenes for Ep 8 at some point.

CT-7567

I was hoping she isn’t, but apparently she is. But the version of her with the chest and saber would be TFA Maz, right? God forbid they release the chest as well as some TLJ-specific accessories to give the diminutive figure greater value.