Narconon Survey Response #347

Before Attending Narconon

How did you find out about Narconon as a treatment center? If you found it through a referral site, please include the link if you recall which one it was. If it was a court referral, please state which court by location.

My mom found it on the internet

Please give the names and phone numbers of any people you spoke to about Narconon when you were making your decision.

Wish I could remember. KEVIN was the guy I met when I got there. He is sales of some sort!!

What were your reasons for choosing Narconon as a treatment center?

My mom is the one that found it. It was "to my knowledge" the first, most reputable place that showed up. "obviously no research had been done!!!!!!" From what she was told, Narconon would not only rid her son of addiction, but also prepare him for life with job skills etc.

What role, if any, did Narconon's success rate play in your decision to attend Narconon?

My mom was soo very impressed, I was uprooted from sober living, fiancé, dog life, etc... To attend this program!!

Were you aware that the Narconon program is Scientology before you went?

No

If so, how did it affect your decision?

n/a

Which Narconon center did you attend, and when (during what year)?

Red Wood Cliffs/ Vista Bay

How much were you charged by Narconon for the program?

41,000

What method did you use to pay?

Cash

Were you charged any additional fees, or charged for services that you were not made aware of before you made your choice?

Yes

If so, how much were the additional fees?

5,000

What were the additional fees for?

Detox Cabin

Were you informed about the refund policy before the program was paid for?

Yes

If so, what were you told?

I as the patient/student understood the guidelines. "Before 7 days somewhat refundable."??? After that You are 'Fd' for payment

When discussing the purchase of the program with Narconon, were you told that your insurance or health plan would pay or reimburse you for the program?

No

What were you told about insurance or health plan coverage?

n/a

While Attending Narconon

Did a doctor examine you before you entered the withdrawal unit?

Yes

Was there medical oversight during your stay at Narconon?

No

Was medical personnel available at all times?

No

Please describe any medical services you received during your stay at Narconon.

None, Besides meeting with a Nurse in training. I had a pulled muscle within my groing. It was extremely painful. I was never given the opportunity to go and see a doctor without having to deal with all financials of the visit, as well as the reprecussions that come with leaving the campus for health issues!!

Did you determine that Narconon is Scientology while in the program?

Yes

If so, how?

L. Ron. Hubbard is the creator of scientology..... He wrote all the books that you study while in this program. Pretty obvious!!!!

Was the Narconon program you entered classified as a residential program?

Yes

If so, what were the circumstances of your housing?

Housing was 'F'd.... I was put in a room above the sauna. This means our room was constantly really hot. Not to mention, you are promised to 'bunk' with one possibly two other people. My room would house all the new and unknowners.... At the most we would house 6 people. You had to either inherit a TV,VCR or be fortunate enough for someone to leave behind.

How many students were in attendance while you were at Narconon?

60

How many staff members were there?

30

Do you feel this was adequate?

No

If not, what were the effects or results of this?

Some staff, not all... Were real fucking assholes!!!! Real world shit, would have gotten the shit kicked out f them for they said!!!!

Did any of your experiences at Narconon bother you while you were in the program?

Yes

Please elaborate.

Besides the fact I felt lied to and completely wronged in every way possible. Some of the NARCONON 'People' were just ass holes!!! Too good to talk to you as a real person. EX: If you had a question about anything, you are technically not allowed to ask anyone else about it. Shit like that, I could go on for days!!! This program ruined a giant part of my life and I am pretty pissed about it, as well as concerned for other peoples health!!! DO NOT DO SAUNA!!!!!!!

How long were you at Narconon?

75 days

Did you complete the Narconon program?

No

If you did not complete the program, did you leave of your own choice?

Yes

Did anyone attempt to get you to stay at Narconon?

Yes

Were you at any time held against your will?

No

If you left early, why? What were the circumstances of your leaving?

I had been there 75 days..... I knew it was a croc when I first started the program. By day 2 I was ready to get the fuck out of there. I did my best to stand strong, and make the best out of any situation. I prolonged that attitude enough to get me IC of Sauna, Student of the week, and off campus living. I am a very well educated person from the streets to college degrees.

Were you ever asked to become staff at Narconon, either during or after completing the program?

Yes

If so, did you accept?

No

What were the specifics of your pay and work hours?

The people that would recently graduate and become trainees. I know for fact would make $50.00 Per week training wage.

After Attending Narconon

Did Narconon deliver the service and results that were promised when you entered the program?

No

How did the service and/or results differ from what you were promised?

I was never seen by an actual doctor, and could have died from alcohol withdraws!!!
Deceived 100% about the facilities, and care resources!!
How dangerous the Sauna program really is!!!

If you were making the choice today, knowing what you know now, would you choose Narconon?

No

Why, or why not?

No way in scientology hell!!!!! I am an alcoholic and have since found a better way to live my life. I spent 75ish days at this place. I gave it my all like I do everything! This place scared the poop out of me like no other place, being, or government had ever before!! I was attending this place in order to better myself....?right? Many weeks pass, I still am mentally numb after marinating in the sauna for 5 hours for 33 days, with 27 days of running in sheer agony, caused by shinsplints. Pulled muscle in the stomache, Don't forget the diahrea caused from the 1-3 cups of calmag everyday. I had explosive diarrhea for 33 days consistently inconsistent!!!

Did your insurance or health plan pay for your treatment at Narconon?

No

Did you ever use drugs within the first two years after leaving Narconon?

Yes

Are you using now?

Yes

If you have remained drug free, was Narconon the key factor?

No answer

Please explain what in particular has helped you remain drug free.

n/a

Did Narconon provide an adequate and consistent after-care program that helped you?

No

Please explain Narconon's after-care program as you understand it.

In a nut shell... Do not speak bad of the program!!!

In hindsight, do any of your experiences at Narconon bother you now?

Yes

If so, please elaborate.

I feel taken advantage of in a weekend state!!! In all actuality I am really upset with Narconon, because they are taking advantage of very vulnerable people. People who are looking to them for hope, guidance, support, etc... Narconon in return will give them employment if they "the student" rid themselves of all that they once knew!! and make $200.00 a week and be thankful!!

Are you aware that the 70-76% success rate claimed by Narconon is false?

Yes

How did you become aware of this?

My girlfriend did all the research. They do not do any follow up on the drop outs, etc...

Do you have any additional comments, or anything you would like to say?

I am here as a person who has been there, lived it, and can understand it!!! Feel free to contact me about anything!!

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