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But where can I find what is contained in HRR? And from what I've read, the League in it's last counter proposal, changed what items were in HRR from the current CBA (less items, therefore less money to split according to the PA). So what did the League suggest removing?

I started a new thread for this, but I know most NHL posts are in this thread. So I thought I would quote it here. If we don't get a full season, looks like it will be prorated.

Well it looks like the NHL CI pricing is out, $171.80. My current statement had this disclaimer on it:

IMPORTANT RENEWAL NOTICE: This is a renewal notification for 2012-13 NHL® CENTER ICE®. Because of the potential NHL labor dispute, you will not be charged until there is a confirmed season start date*. This assures that you will not pay for any missed games. Once a settlement is reached, you will begin to see a charge** for NHL® CENTER ICE® and will be set to enjoy another exciting season. If you wish to cancel, you must do so before the season starts; refunds not available after the season starts.

* Season currently scheduled to start on 10/10/12 but is subject to change pending the outcome of a new NHL agreement **2012-13 renewal price is 4 payments of $42.95/month. Should there be a delay in the season and games are missed, the price will be adjusted accordingly. This amount will appear on your bill once an agreement has been made.

gary will hold a vote in which the owners are expected to vote on weather to have a lockout or not. If they are in favor of lockout, it will become offical sunday 9/16

So reality once again all, no hockey unless we get a miracle.

the NHL PA wants to get lawyers, and go to court.

the only team or players that might get paid and be allowed to use the facility and practice is the Montreal canadiens.

Quebec is planning to file a lawsuit against NHL. if that happens and a judge rules in favor, MTL players will still get paid, and they can skate and do whatever, but thats the only team. All others would be blacked out.

The AHL is a pretty good substitute here. I have the Manchester Monarchs about 15 miles north of me. They've got close-by rivalries with Portland, Worcester and Providence. Lowell (12 miles south of me) moved, unfortunately.

The AHL is a pretty good substitute here. I have the Manchester Monarchs about 15 miles north of me. They've got close-by rivalries with Portland, Worcester and Providence. Lowell (12 miles south of me) moved, unfortunately.

We are getting a bit of luck over here (in Lewiston) as Portland is renovating the arena. The Portland Pirates are playing some of their games here at our arena this year. Already got my tickets for all the games.

I called a few weeks back to confirm that i would not be charged for CI until the season actually started. Negotiations have to take place after an agreement is worked out on how to price out what we'll end up missing. My new concern is the talk of the owners floating using Replacement players/Scrubs. The last thing i want is to get a bill to watch nobody's.

Is there any downside to canceling the automatic renewal? This would have been my first renewal season, so I'm not sure. Do renewers get a better price than new subscribers typically?

I agree wholeheartedly about not wanting to watch scrubs by the way. Or at least I agree insofar as I don't want to pay the NHL a cent to watch those scrubs. It could be kind of entertaining, really, to watch if it was free. Kind of like the urge to stare at the mangled wreckage along the highway....