And how exactly was Jim McMahon a BYU QB? I have a feeling the powers that be look the other way unless the player, racked with guilt, "turns himself in" for fiddling his own girlfriend-- as appears to have happened in this case.

aclayman wrote:And how exactly was Jim McMahon a BYU QB? I have a feeling the powers that be look the other way unless the player, racked with guilt, "turns himself in" for fiddling his own girlfriend-- as appears to have happened in this case.

JM was never a Mormon

Hope is a moment now long pastThe Shadow of Death is the one I castKoo koo ka joob....I am the Walrus

The weapons, which are made from discarded cell phones, are capable of firing four .22-caliber rounds in quick succession. The guns are loaded by twisting the phone in half and inserting the rounds beneath the digital phone face. The bullets fire through the antenna by pressing 5, 6, 7 and 8 on the keypad.

Oh no. Wait til someone is shot reaching for their legit cell phone.

Is something like that really necessary in the world?

jfiling and FUDU will be back bitching about the POE-lease. Even after some crack dealer kills a cop or two with one of these.

The weapons, which are made from discarded cell phones, are capable of firing four .22-caliber rounds in quick succession. The guns are loaded by twisting the phone in half and inserting the rounds beneath the digital phone face. The bullets fire through the antenna by pressing 5, 6, 7 and 8 on the keypad.

Oh no. Wait til someone is shot reaching for their legit cell phone.

Is something like that really necessary in the world?

jfiling and FUDU will be back bitching about the POE-lease. Even after some crack dealer kills a cop or two with one of these.

As long as THAT^^^ damn thing is set up to blast the user whenever they're talkin while:

1. Standing in a line2. Eating in a restaurant3. Sitting in a waiting room4. On a plane5. Having sex

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I don't care much for Mormons and their stupid Jesus laws in Utah. But the player signed the Honor Code.

If you ever want to piss off a Mormon, ask them about the Moutain Meadows Massacre.

There may be flies on you and me, but there are no flies on Jimmer The Mormon Cricket.

Soon, the informal policy known as Bleeding the Beast took on a life of its own. According to the Aug. 11, 2003, edition of the Prescott Daily Courier, the policy’s ominous name was a reference to a similar practice implemented by LDS founding prophet Joseph Smith and his successor Brigham Young during the height of Mormon persecution,

The practice reportedly spread quickly as it gained acceptance among the FLDS faithful, which happened to coincide with the explosive growth of state and federal assistance programs. Multiple wives, who were married in church, but not in the eyes of the law, began applying for state assistance. Food Stamps and federal programs like WIC, which provide nutritional assistance to low-income women and children, were also tapped. So were healthcare dollars through Arizona’s AHCCCS program, which provides most of the medical insurance for residents in Colorado City AZ. Last year over 4,000 residents were enrolled, reportedly costing the state about $8 million a year.

An in-depth report published in the Daily Courier notes that about half of the fundamentalists in Colorado City receive food stamps, compared to five percent statewide, costing just over $3 million a year.

The report continues, noting that a mere five years ago there were no Colorado City children getting child care assistance, but last year the number stood at about 200 – which cost the state another $600,000. These benefits can reportedly be paid to care-providers who are related to the children, so sometimes one wife can get paid for taking care of another wife’s kids. In all, Colorado City gets back about eight dollars in benefits for every dollar the residents pay in state taxes, while for the rest of Mohave County, Arizona the ration is near one-to-one.

Fire and EMS services in the twin cities of C-City/Hildale, which were nearly non-existent until recent years, have received hundreds of thousands of dollars in state and federal grants. Some published reports put the number even higher, claiming that more than $1.8 million from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development has flowed into the town to pave streets, upgrade fire equipment and build a water-storage tank. Hildale got $94,000 for its fire station. And the government-financed airport on the edge of Colorado City costing $2.8 million.

Before long, government was big business in the former settlement of Short Creek, and served as a major employer. It was only natural that FLDS members would dominate the local governing bodies since the church’s members counted for the vast majority of the two towns’ residents.

I laugh at dads at work who talk tough (like I used to) when their daughters are pre-teen Daddy's girls.The dads vow to vet the future boyfriends, to set the rules. Arm the daughters; intimidate the boys.

I don't care who you are- at some point, the daughter is the one who becomes the dad's worst nightmare (the actual boys are a distant second). Unless the dad is clueless, which may be a sign that the daughter didn't have the greatest chance at this part of life in the first place. This nightmare is a phase which (hopefully) she emerges from with few scars- and ideally it only lasts a while.

When we're honest, the girl who is raised in a stable home controls what she does, with her own choices. She puts herself into each situation willingly. And at least for a time, pursues some of the very situations her dad always assured himself he would protect her from. What boys do with her, how often they do it, how many of them do it, the way they do it- all of it is directed or allowed by her. Parents' influence on these choices was back a few yrs earlier, when they hopefully gave her the attention and love she needed- without spoiling her.

It's like the story of Kosar's daughters. Hate to bring up his personal life, but that Miami newspaper story about his family/bankruptcy crisis commented about how he had to search out and chase off boys from his home. Sounded like this was an ongoing thing. His daughters may have once been all ribbons and pigtails, innocent and unaware of the world. Easy pickins for a monster. But that day was gone. Now, they were in command of their lives in ways which our daughters are/may one day be as well- potentially inviting and flirting with demons.

Earlier than we want to admit, the boy thing is pretty much what the daughter wants it to be- not what Dad wants.

Well said. Gets back to what I believe to be the key to it all: do the best you can and then pray for the best.

The girls simply have a better chance if they're loved and if they're educated. Not saying at all mistakes don't take place but at a certain point it all comes down to them making their own choices and it being completely out of a dad's hands.

I laugh at dads at work who talk tough (like I used to) when their daughters are pre-teen Daddy's girls.The dads vow to vet the future boyfriends, to set the rules. Arm the daughters; intimidate the boys.

I don't care who you are- at some point, the daughter is the one who becomes the dad's worst nightmare (the actual boys are a distant second). Unless the dad is clueless, which may be a sign that the daughter didn't have the greatest chance at this part of life in the first place. This nightmare is a phase which (hopefully) she emerges from with few scars- and ideally it only lasts a while.

When we're honest, the girl who is raised in a stable home controls what she does, with her own choices. She puts herself into each situation willingly. And at least for a time, pursues some of the very situations her dad always assured himself he would protect her from. What boys do with her, how often they do it, how many of them do it, the way they do it- all of it is directed or allowed by her. Parents' influence on these choices was back a few yrs earlier, when they hopefully gave her the attention and love she needed- without spoiling her.

It's like the story of Kosar's daughters. Hate to bring up his personal life, but that Miami newspaper story about his family/bankruptcy crisis commented about how he had to search out and chase off boys from his home. Sounded like this was an ongoing thing. His daughters may have once been all ribbons and pigtails, innocent and unaware of the world. Easy pickins for a monster. But that day was gone. Now, they were in command of their lives in ways which our daughters are/may one day be as well- potentially inviting and flirting with demons.

Earlier than we want to admit, the boy thing is pretty much what the daughter wants it to be- not what Dad wants.