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Chinese Sausage(Lop Chong,Lop Cheong)

Chinese Sausage(Lop Chong,Lop Cheong)

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:33 pm

by eddy current

Has any one any recipes for chinese sausage? have done search through forum but came up with zilch.My new daughter-in-law is Chinese(with poor English) and is going to make Chinese sausages for Chinese New Year.Unfortunately her recipes are in Chinese which she can't put into English yet! Kind of worried about ingredients regarding spices,herbs,saltpetre,etc.Apart from that I'd like to have a go, see if I can impress her!!!

Method:Grind the pork using the coarse disc two times. Add the cubed fat through the second grind. Combine the dry ingredients in a bowl and mix. Add to the meat and incorporate all ingredients well. Blend in the liquids. Refrigerate 24 hours. Stuff 28mm casings with the meat mixture, using the sausage stuffing attachment for your meat grinder. Pre-heat smoker to 160 F and smoke the sausage until an internal temperature of 140 F is reached. Allow to dry at room temperature or hang in a cool place until they shrink to 70% moisture compared to original weight.

Method :Grind the pork and fat in a meat grinder fitted with a 3/8-inch plate or, to be more authentic, dice the meat and fat with a knife into 1/4-inch cubes. Combine all the remaining ingredients except the casings in a large mixing bowl. Add the meat and fat and mix well.Stuff the meat mixture into the hog casing; tie the casing into 5-inch links. Prick the links all over with a fork. Spread them on a rack and place them in the refrigerator. Let the sausages dry overnight.Preheat the oven to 200 degrees. Place the sausages on a rack in a foil-lined baking sheet, making sure they do not touch each other. Bake for 5 hours. Shut off the oven but do not open the oven door. Let the sausages cool for another 2 hours. Discard any excess fat in the pan and store the sausages in the refrigerator for one to two weeks, or freeze them for two to three months.This recipe yields 6 sausages, about 2 ounces each.Comments: Small, slightly sweet and spicy Chinese sausages are used in many of the recipes in this collection. If you cannot get them, here is a recipe for making your own. It comes from San Francisco sausage maker Bruce Aidells, whose sausage making workshops are always a hit at my cooking school.Yield: 6 sausages

I have not tried either, so if you do try them, let us know how they came out.

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:42 pm

by eddy current

Oddley,Thanks for these recipes. Very similar to one I found through Google. It contains MSG though! and lots of sugar.

Any comments ,suggestions,etc. Rather dubious about the use of MSG and high sugar content.

Bob

Thin soy sauce matters...

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:02 pm

by krnntp

Hi, I'm glad to find these recipes here, as I'd love to have another go at lop cheong. I tried to make some last winter using a recipe from "Great Sausage Recipes and Meat Curing", and was very disappointed with the results. It looks like I might have had better luck if I had used light soy sauce instead of dark, as one of the recipes posted here calls for it explicitly.

FYI for anyone not into Chinese cooking, in Chinese terminology "light" or "thin" soy sauce is a salty, tangy flavorful sauce used most often to finish off a dish or in dipping sauces - a typical Japanese soy sauce like "Kikkoman" falls in this category. Dark soy is a lot darker, almost opaque black brown. It's used in general cooking, and to give stews and meats a rich reddish brown color. The taste is a little like blackstrap molasses, though it's thin in texture like light soy sauce. "Light" doesn't have anything to do with reduced sodium or dieting. "Pearl River Bridge" is a good brand from mainland China, and easy to find in Asian stores.

I was really pleased with the way my lop cheong looked - very gnarled and beautiful, with shapely cubes of fat, just like the ones in stores - but the taste was atrocious, I think b/c I used dark soy. It overwhelmed both the meat, and the garlic and 5 spice I added to jazz up the recipe. Also, Kutas recommends adding soy protein concentrate, for which I substituted skim milk powder, and that couldn't have helped matters.

"Place fat cubes in hot boiling water for a few seconds using a sieve or screen. This prevents the cubes from sticking together. This is done just before adding the rest of the ingredients. Be sure you allow it to cool properly.

The lean pork is also cut up in cubes 1/4 to 1/2 inch; mix all ingredients with the pork, except the soy protein concentrate. Let stand for about 5 minutes. Then add backfat and soy protein concentrate and mix well. Let stand another 5 minutes before placing into stuffer. Use a 38 - 42 mm hog casing for stuffing into 5 or 6 inch links. The casings will have to be pin-pricked to insure proper drying. Place in smokehouse without smoke and let dry for 5-6 hrs at 120 F or until desired color is obtained. Remove to cooler overnight."

This sounded like a bland, bland recipe so I tried to enliven it by adding some 5 spice powder and garlic. It might have worked out, but for the dark soy and skim milk. BTW one thing I'm not fond of in the Kutas book are the requests for corn syrup solids, soy protein concentrate and "Fermento"; skim milk powder really doesn't seem much better.

I know that a whole range of different sausages are made and sold in China - I think I remember seeing "pork and liver"and "pork and duck" ones for sale here in the US. It would be great to find some of these other recipes -

I like the idea of letting the sausages hang for a day before heating them; perhaps this would allow a fuller flavor to develop.

PS. Bob, if you're still reading this thread, and your daughter in law really does have some family sausage recipes in Mandarin (or ?), do let me know, I'd love to have a go at translating them ...

Best - krnntp

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:21 pm

by Snags

The chinese white wine would probably be Rice Wine.
From the Lap chong I have seen and eaten they seem to be sweet as the predominant flavour

These Chinese pork sausages look and feel like pepperoni, but they’re much sweeter. They include soy sauce, sugar, monosodium glutamate, and Chinese rice wine. Cassia is commonly added as a preservative.

This sausage may also be referred to as Lap Chung, Lap Chong, Lap Cheong, Lap Xuong, or Thuong Hang.

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:12 am

by Greyham

The Chinese recipe posted on here Lap Cheong...was taken from this site http://home.pacbell.net/lpoli/index.htmI have tried this recipe many times and it is very good. However, a very acquired taste..
Lastly they are much better if you do not smoke them
Really lastly.....i did change the recipe considerably and came up with a recipe using just a cure 1#. left for a week to ten days it made for a very interesting cooked product although i could not convince many of my customers apart from the obvious Chinese patrons

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:38 pm

by saucisson

Don't tease us then, what recipe did you come up with?

"white wine" in Chinese sausages

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:47 pm

by krnntp

I checked the ingredients list of two of the Chinese style sausages sold at my local Chinese market, and it seems likely that the "white wine" or "rice wine" called for is probably white spirits, a sort of vodka-like high proof spirit distilled from rice wine.

The two brands I checked were Sun Ming Jan "Chinese Style Sausage", made in the USA, which lists gin as an ingredient; and Wing Wing brand "Chinese Style Sausage", made in Canada, which lists grain alchohol.

Gin, grain neutral spirits such as "Everclear", vodka, Michiu (Chinese white spirits), Shochu (the Japanese equivalent of Michiu) or Shoju (Korean Shochu) all ought to work here.

Smoking was given as 60 deg for 48 hrs which I imagine would be light smoke. I have never eaten one so can not tell.

Translated recipes

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:21 pm

by krnntp

Hi, all!

I finally gave up and used my rudimentary Mandarin skills to search for recipes on the Chinese-speaking internet, with surprising success -

Google Translate has given me enough of the gist to get a general idea, but I'll need to translate more carefully and get the input of some native speakers before the recipes are "ready for prime time". Here are some of the highlights - sausage names and flavoring ingredients,

From gourmetgarden.com.my, a Malaysian / Singaporean chinese version of Lop Cheong made with rose flavored spirits (Mei Kuei Lu Chiew)

Best - krnntp

Re: Chinese Sausage(Lop Chong,Lop Cheong)

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:29 am

by Thewitt

I know this is an old thread, but I was talking to a butcher here in Penang who makes Chinese sausage.

No sulfite or sulfate.

No smoking.

Dice, mix, stuff, hang till dry....

Been dong it that way for 60 years.

I'll be helping him next week, so I'll post the recipe and anything else I can glean from his tutoring. He says we will be making 100 kilos....and shows me the space in the back of his shop where we will be hanging them. Not sure if we I'll really make 100 kilos, but the space looks large enough. I'm bringing my small piston stuffer with me...

I asked him if his recipe was a secret and he says, "Why secret? Every butcher know how to make lap cheong."

Re: Chinese Sausage(Lop Chong,Lop Cheong)

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:50 am

by Mohalk

Thewitt wrote:I know this is an old thread, but I was talking to a butcher here in Penang who makes Chinese sausage.

No sulfite or sulfate.

No smoking.

Dice, mix, stuff, hang till dry....

Been dong it that way for 60 years.

I'll be helping him next week, so I'll post the recipe and anything else I can glean from his tutoring. He says we will be making 100 kilos....and shows me the space in the back of his shop where we will be hanging them. Not sure if we I'll really make 100 kilos, but the space looks large enough. I'm bringing my small piston stuffer with me...

I asked him if his recipe was a secret and he says, "Why secret? Every butcher know how to make lap cheong."

Thanks much!

I'll be watching for this.

Al

Re: Chinese Sausage(Lop Chong,Lop Cheong)

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:49 pm

by wheels

Me too. My own impression of the Chinese sausage from the local Chinese supermarket is that it's a fairly plain sausage with little spice flavour. It'll be interesting to see what is used.