Anyone hearing any scuttlebut on this? Any info would be generously accepted, thanks!

01-22-2013, 09:41 PM

VTP99

Last I heard 404a was considered a long term refrigerant.

01-22-2013, 09:57 PM

ryan1088

Of course they would get rid of it, it's a good widely used refrigerant. Only makes sense to get rid of it.

On a serious note, I had heard some rumblings about that but I have no solid info.

01-22-2013, 10:00 PM

VTP99

[QUOTE=ryan1088;15051411]Of course they would get rid of it, it's a good widely used refrigerant. Only makes sense to get rid of it.

Did the patent run out ? Oh ya that was DuPont sorry. :grin2:

01-22-2013, 10:02 PM

ryan1088

[QUOTE=VTP99;15051461]

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryan1088

Of course they would get rid of it, it's a good widely used refrigerant. Only makes sense to get rid of it.

Did the patent run out ? Oh ya that was DuPont sorry. :grin2:

Or admit how toxic it is to the ozone...where have we heard that before? Ha!

01-22-2013, 10:09 PM

Helioson

I heard they are targeting it in Europe because it has a high GWP (global warming potential). I had the question posed by a produce warehouse customer who has an aging R22 skid that blew a 1 3/8 discharge vibrasorb this fall. Lost 1100 lbs of R22 and wasn't real happy. I am trying to sell him on R404A but he's afraid the same will happen as R22. I figure that about 6 months after I get him to install the R404A unit, the EPA will announce their terminate date. DuPont has a spy watching me.

01-22-2013, 10:58 PM

matt1124

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helioson

Lost 1100 lbs of R22 and wasn't real happy.

:eek:

01-22-2013, 11:56 PM

mjm88

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helioson

I heard they are targeting it in Europe because it has a high GWP (global warming potential). I had the question posed by a produce warehouse customer who has an aging R22 skid that blew a 1 3/8 discharge vibrasorb this fall. Lost 1100 lbs of R22 and wasn't real happy. I am trying to sell him on R404A but he's afraid the same will happen as R22. I figure that about 6 months after I get him to install the R404A unit, the EPA will announce their terminate date. DuPont has a spy watching me.

I've heard the same thing about it being phased out due to high GWP ratings a few months ago by a local supplier

01-23-2013, 12:00 AM

VTP99

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjm88

I've heard the same thing about it being phased out due to high GWP ratings a few months ago by a local supplier

:gah: If they come up with one more refrigerant for stock on my truck !!!!!!!!!

01-23-2013, 12:15 AM

mjm88

Haha we'll have to start pulling trailers

01-23-2013, 12:17 AM

Phase Loss

R407F is the future!

I know people will tell ya it's 407A & 407C.

But 407F is the bees knees.

01-23-2013, 09:29 AM

skpkey9

404 does have a phase out date can't remember when it is , but when I get to my office I will post it....

01-23-2013, 10:12 AM

coldjoe

Yes r407f starting to be put into medium temp racks here .R407A ,C & F all made up of the same 3 gases just different percentages (R32,R125,R134A)