Rick Crammond (RC)
Okay! Welcome everybody to the
9th Kids Knowledge Seekers Workshop
presented by the Keshe Foundation
and we'll be in touch with Mr Keshe (MK)
at the Spaceship Institute
who will be showing us
some of the wonders of the Universe
through the eyes of a child.
And... last week we discussed
some interesting aspects
of what kids might do in Space for fun
and we hope to continue
with that a little bit this week
and... see if we can get into that...
into a little more depth.
And, we have a new animation as well
that we're showing on the Livestream now
and...
we'll be asking Mr Keshe
if he can see his Livestream there
to comment on that as well.
This is... We have a new...
animator for the Keshe animation team
and this is some of his work.
So... Okay! We'll carry on
we've also have a couple
of games, I'd like to show
and see what... people think of the idea
of non-violent games for kids.
Okay! Keyvan Davani (KD) is
the other co-host here
and if we can hear a little bit of an
introduction from him now.
Keyvan, are you there?
(KD) The thing is you...
as Rick said already
and also in the last workshop talking
about, you know those...
all those games filled with violence,
aggression, killing
Is there... is the future going
to look like..?
Because Rick, you know,
showed me two...
one or two games which he created
teaching kids to... you know,
how not to kill and how to be... how to
have empathy with one another.
... to... to nail it down to...
So ...
Could you go...
Yeah! That would really interest maybe
because, you also talk about
a lot of things.
How... How people actually aren't going
to use a parachute anymore
...because they're going to use
some kind of positioning technology
because they can, you know,
have the choice to be anywhere ...
So... I would really appreciate that,
if you go... If you could go into depth
about
what the future is going to look like for,
you know, kids, children,
adults, teenagers, younger adults
...in terms of games, fun,
entertainment, pleasure.
Thank you.
(MK) Good morning, good evening,
hello to everyone.
This is..
We are watching the video
on the Livestream... as it's played.
Can you explain to us
what it is, which you have put on
that we can enjoy too?
To understand what's... what it is.
(RC) Yes! Okay....
The video I have up now,
it'll come up on the Livestream
in just a second, here, as an example.
Shows the... inner core of a...
basically, a copper type reactor
and this reactor would have
a center pin that would be nano-coated.
That would be a copper-oxide
type nano-coated center pin.
And... What Jeff Reisner,
is the animator's name.
What Jeff has tried to illustrate
is the incoming and outgoing fields,
the gravitational and magnetic fields
at the center pin of this reactor.
I'll... I'll start the animation here,
now for this particular one.
It'll take a bit to come through.
You can see on the livestream
that the blue arrows show going..
the outward magnetic forces
... and the red arrows show
the inward... gravitational forces.
I believe that's the way
it's... illustrated,
showing fields...
Sorry, go ahead.
(MK) We don't call it magnetic.
It's magnetical, which means
from the interaction of two ...
fields, like gravitational.
When we talk about magnetic,
it's just a field
but when we call magnetical,
it's the repulsion fields
and that's what we call the blue fields,
magnetical and gravitational,
so, we understand it's from
the interaction of two fields.
(RC) And can I get clear about
the magnetical?
It's...
Magnetical is different from magnetic.
It's... It can...
Magnetical is not the same
as measuring a magnetic field,
like the magnetic field of the Earth
is not the same as the
magnetical field of the Earth. Right?
(MK) No! Magnetical field and
gravitational,
that's what we call MaGravs.
Magnetic gravitation comes from
interaction of two dissimilar poles
which they get gravitated to each other,
and magnetical is the interaction
between two similar poles
which the effect,
is the fields of repulsion.
So, when we speak about
the Earth's atmosphere,
Is... It is,
The size of the Earth's atmosphere,
is the balance fields between
the gravitational and magnetical.
It means, what is pulling together
between the magnetic central fields
of the center of the Earth
and, what is the repulsion of the fields.
So, the balance between the two
becomes, what we call, "the mass"
and the shape of it, is the atmosphere
of the Earth - of the planet
(RC) Mr Keshe, is there some way
to measure those two fields individually,
the magnetical and the gravitational?
Or are we not really able to do
that in science at this point ?
(MK) Yes, this is what we are
devising, a system for it,
because,
what you call
every
every entity, even the weight of a child
or what you call it, the mass of a child
is the same throughout the Universe.
Doesn't matter where ever you are.
If your mass is 20 kilograms, for example?
It doesn't matter if you are on the moon,
if you are on Mars,
if your are in another galaxy,
you are still 20 kilograms.
Because, this mass is dictated by
the interaction or the balance between
gravitational and the magnetical,
and because gravitational fields
in the center are stronger
so, always are... more... heavier.
So, when you take what is
repulsion fields from what is attraction
this gives you the mass of the body.
And then when your mass,
which is itself
gravitational magnetic field,
is magnetically independent,
in interaction with
the gravitational magnetic field
of let's say the Earth, gives your weight,
and then when you go on the scale
your weight is 35 kilos,
or your weight is 25 kilo.
Where your mass was 20 kilos.
It all depends how the
gravitational fields
and magnetical fields
of the environment
interacts with the
magnetical gravitational field
of the mass of the person.
So, when you have a mass,
you have a sphere around you,
and whatever is in that sphere
is independent of other fields
in that environment,
because now it's made its own cocoon,
it's made its own nest.
Whatever is in the nest is
independent of what's outside the nest,
and we call the weight of that nest,
the "mass of the matter" - the nest
and then when the fields of the nest
interacts with the fields
of the environment
then you find the weight,
we call it, of the body.
Mass is...
the balance fields internally inside.
Weight is the balance fields
between the environment
and what is created inside as the fields.
That's why you weight different on Earth
and you weight different on the Moon
but your mass on the Moon
and the Earth is exactly the same.
So, this is how a lot of...
scientists could not understand.
For the first time we have
explained in the books
that in a simple way,
your mass
is the difference between
your gravitational fields,
minus your magnetical fields.
... What is,
because magnetical is in the center,
is always much stronger,
heavier, than what is going out,
so that gives you the mass
and mass is constant,
because that's your cocoon.
What's inside the Earth belongs to Earth.
We don't float in the space because
the Earth cocoon keeps us and...
and the boundary
where the gravitational magnetic fields
become to balance,
that becomes the upper atmosphere...
becomes the atmosphere...
of the Earth, we call it.
And that's the reason why,
as we go further away from the surface
of the Earth our gravity reduces,
because, the gravitational fields
are centered to the center,
they are pulling together
Gravity means gravitation -
gravitating - pulling together.
So, as you go further there is
less to pull but there's more to push
and then where the magnetical
and gravitational fields find balance,
that's what we call the upper atmosphere.
that's the boundary of this planet
in respect to the fields
internally it has created.
And the size of it,
how much it expands
is very much dictated by the gravitational
magnetic field of the Plasma of the Sun,
so that's where the difference comes.
And, magnetical is repulsion,
it means, interaction of two fields
and gravitational means:
coming... gravitating together and that
becomes again from two magnetic fields.
The principle is that in the center of,
let's say the Earth,
all the magnetic fields are
not going in one direction.
It's layers of magnetic materials
which create their own fields,
and in this layer is like little footballs
and each football is like
being in a tumbler.
One is up, one is north, one is south,
the other one inside is the north inside.
When the fields which are dissimilar
in one layer to another
they gravitate, so they create a pull.
And when at the same time
another ball is in the north, and the
other one is south, another one is north
So, they repulse each other
and they create a magnetical field.
And, this is what is
interesting to... to understand
we never understood before
that the actual mass is the difference
between magnetical
and gravitational fields
and it's always constant because
what's in the container is in
the container, you cannot change it.
(RC) And... Would the animation be fairly
accurate in the way it represents..
(MK) It is fairly accurate.
(RC) And there was some discussion about
the shape of the Plasma.
Would it be spherical
with the center... the...
electron like that?
(MK) It is more spherical.
Yes! It's much more spherical
(RC) Or maybe a toroid kind of shape?
(MK) ... It is more or less spherical,
because...
You have a rotation
which increases at the equator
and then you have the compression
of the Plasma
on two north poles and south pole,
which pushes it down.
So, in a way is a flatter,
not so spherical but is not flat-flat.
In the big gaseous planets like Saturn,
we see a flat top
because, that's where the central pole
pulls together, due to the rotation.
The size of the sphere or
the diameter of the sphere at the equator
is literally dictated
by the magnetical gravitational
and interaction of the inertia
which is the atomic mass
of the material in the structure.
That's why you get the equator line.
That's why you get
a bigger line in the middle.
Because, mass in a way sits to the center
and the inertia interacts as well.
So, when the inertia interacts with
gravitational magnetic fields
of the entity, it gets pulled in.
so you get more flatter caps
on the top and the bottom.
It's an inertia pull of the entity.
There is a difference between the inertia
and gravity, or what you call MaGrav.
(RC) Would that... Would that be related
to the speed of the reactor as well
or more to the density
of the materials inside?
(MK) It is more to do
with the density in partially
and rotational speed as well,
because it becomes centrifuge.
It is... It's like me putting a child,
holding a child's hand
and running around, rotating
around the axis of my legs.
(RC) So the faster it spins, the more
it will have that Saturn ring type effect?
Is that true?
(MK) In so many ways,
Saturn rings are created
in a totally different formation.
(RC) But wouldn't that
Saturn ring type force
be what is measured by the B.... Z axes
on the... on your sensor?
(MK) It is mainly to do with the Z axis.
But, in our cores we have created this.
The present core you see
is half beast, half man.
What this means is that we are following
a Planetary and a Solar System, or a Sun.
In a Planetary you have solid layers and
in the Sun, or Plasma of the Suns,
you have layers of Plasma of
different strengths.
You don't have a solid part in the middle.
But, in our reactors
we have put a solid piece in
to be able to centralize the field forces.
If you can produce fields
which can be centralized and stable,
then you take the center pin out,
then, we have a mono Plasma system.
At the moment we have not achieved that.
One person who has achieved it
up to now is... Vince (V).
And then the next step
is how we can achieve that,
and we are... we are heading
to that direction in the lab.
(RC) There is another
little video I could show
that... Ad did when we were talking.
When your son was showing his...
his sphere with the magnet in it.
That clear sphere,
I think it was, with the magnet inside?
And Ad made up... three clear spheres
with magnets inside.
And, it's just coming up
on the Livestream there now,
and you can see the three spheres.
I'll just play the movie
and you can see the interaction
of the spheres with the magnets.
Okay! He's introducing a
third sphere with a magnet.
Oops, there we go,
let's get it started properly.
There we go.
Okay, so
he's introducing the sphere with a magnet
and you can see how it influences
the other magnets in the other spheres.
(MK) Where is yours, spheres....
the balls you had on a pin.
(RC) So I thought that was quite
interesting, it just illustrates
the interaction of these.
Well, these are crude magnetic fields
it's not the magnetical or
gravitational field...but it's...it does
(MK) Actually, it is.
No, it is both gravitational
and magnetical.
(RC) Okay, good point. Yes that's right.
(MK) If you look, the... the one he's
rotating with his fingers on the top.
One side is north and one side is south
or one side is entry and one side is exit.
So, it creates entry-entry with one magnet
and exit-exit with one,
or what you call, south and south
and north and north.
And, the motion is due to
magnetic field interaction.
This simple, very, very simple
demonstration
shows how, we do not need motors
and engines anymore.
Once we understand the behavior of Plasma
and the way,
we've just seen in this video.
We do not see any fuel burned,
and that's how the motion
is created in the Universe.
And this is what is very interesting
for youngsters to see and understand.
As we say, instead of these magnets,
we have created a Plasma
which behaves the same, 3-dimensionally.
And so, as we have
other reactors in the lab,
we have come to the point¨
of maturity in science
that we do not need to burn fuel
to achieve motion.
And... Now instead of the finger
which is twisting the magnets,
when you play with a Plasma,
Plasma itself rotates.
Dynamic, it's a dynamic entity.
So...
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(RC) I didn't get that question on the
Livestream.
Let me get that a little better. How is it
that the Plasma is self-rotating?
We see that this sphere
is rotated by a human hand,
And how..? Can you explain
that a little better?
(MK) Yeah! This is the...
What we were going to discuss tomorrow
because, these are some of
the... things which...
[sound problem]
(V) Oh! We lost the sound there?
Okay! We've just lost the sound,
lost the....
(MK) ...go into in-depth.
... about these things
because, we spoke about it with
the knowledge seekers here this week.
One of the... The only reasons,
the only reason
that the Plasma rotates independently
is that
even in regards to Earth,
or regarding to the Sun
that we rotate at one thousand six hundred
and something kilometers an hour.
That the total
rotational distance per 24 hours,
if you multiply 24 by 1,600 kilometers
is 40,000 kilometers a day,
which is a full circle around the Earth,
which is one day, we know that.
These motions of entities,
we don't have a motor to rotate the Earth.
What happens;
As gravitational and magnetic fields
in the planet
... are created by matters and fields,
as gravity pulls in, the magnetical field
pushes out,
this creates us a heartbeat.
But, as the structure of the planet
is not mono,
the material is a mixture
of different fields,
one place like exactly as
you've just seen.
If you bring that picture back where
you rotate the magnet on the top.
One side is not stronger,
one layer than the others,
so, the field is going to follow.
Can you show... Can you show
the picture again?
You see, that's
how magnetic fields come together
and then they go in,
but if you show...
Yes! Just show the rotation
of the magnets.
If you can have this for tomorrow's
teaching, we'll talk about it.
So what happens?
In fact, inside the Plasma
one field in one corner,
is not as strong as the other.
and the other side's
to catch up, to link up
to become, to reach the stronger,
by then the stronger has moved
and this pulsation and the difference
in gravitational magnetic field
in different layers,
that they're trying to catch up
with each other,
creates the
rotational motion of the Plasma.
So, the rotational motion of a Plasma
is due to gradients in different
layers of material inside a Plasma.
And the pulsation as the mass inside
stays the same, but the fields change.
And in so many ways,
over millions of years a mass changes
because mass is made of fields
and the fields radiate outside.
If the fields radiated outside, is more
than what comes in, so you reduce in mass.
So, the natural process
of the rotation of the Plasma
comes from the difference in the
gradients of the magnetic field inside.
Plus, that's in layers.
Plus, the magnetic gravitational fields.
And magnetical gravitational fields which,
one is trying to catch up
with the other one,
so it creates a pulse, and
a rotation at the same time.
If man stands far enough from the Earth
they will see that,
our Earth has a heartbeat too.
If he goes to the Sun,
the Sun has a heartbeat too.
If this heartbeat,
what we call the magnetical field beat,
is not there, then
it's not a planet, it is
not a living entity.
And that's how the motion is created.
In one way, if I can show it
in the video by hand.
It's... Let me see we can get it on the..
Can we go on Skype?
Okay, we'll try to open the camera.
Can you see the camera?
Can you see my hand?
(V) I can see it here Rick, are you..?
(MK) So, if you take the fingers
as magnetic and gravitational fields
and the center, I'll try to show you.
What happens, it beats,
the beating goes like this,
but at the same time,
there is a motion due to the fields.
So, in a way you create a motion by
beating
and this beating pulls and pushes
the matter, which is inside the planet,
and this push and pull creates another
field difference
between different materials
and as the fields try to catch up
it creates a heartbeat and a rotation.
And that's how the
rotation of the Plasma is created.
It's a natural process.
The reason for it being,
that the beat comes is.
Different fields of different strengths,
as they radiate out,
they create different layers
of Plasma strengths inside the Plasma.
So, this is how the Sun does.
So, the field strength and change and
non-unity of the field strength
creates a beat, magnetical beat
and then as they are trying to catch up,
as you've seen in the video
the one magnet is trying to catch up
with the other one, so it twists
and by the time it's passed it
comes around again, it tries to catch up.
What you show in that video
is actually the... what you call,
the magnetical fields of the Plasma
and that's the heartbeat of it..
This is
what they call the rotation of Plasma
but you don't have
the beat of the Plasma.
(RC) I think that's a good cue
for Vince to show his movie that he
was showing us just before the workshop.
(MK) ...Marko was just saying that...
Marko was just saying you can show that.
(V) Okay, let me see if I can start it.
Just one sec here, okay Rick?
( they laugh...)
(setting up the video)
(MK) It's not up there.
(V) Okay, tell me when
you can see it, Rick
(setting up the video)
Okay, can you see it Mr Keshe?
(setting up the video)
(MK) Okay, we are looking,
We're waiting...
(RC) it's a little hard to see because
the resolution isn't as
good as it was before.
(MK) Can you explain to us what this is?
(V) Okay, so what I have is
... on the left hand side in the bucket
is the CO2 GaNS
from a zinc nano-coated
and zinc un-coated cells.
... It's been in that bucket
for roughly six months,
just under water that's washed.
... The one on the right in the glass,
round container is the Al GaNS,
or the nano-coated copper
and aluminum not coated cell
and ... it is not washed, that is
salt water that is in that one.
hum ....
And so what we're looking at in the bucket
is a top rotation of the fats,
or the amino acid
that, is on the top of the bucket.
Which, I haven't seen
before making this video, but...
What it looks like
to be doing is from a shaking,
that's what the initial,
beginning of the picture is,
is I have shaken it
and this is just settling out.
... The pictures are taken every one minute
over the course of about six hours
and the top
of the amino acids are rotating.
It initially starts out as..
(MK) You're breaking up.
I think you better switch your video off,
because you are breaking up.
(V) Okay!
I'll just stop my sharing,
so that... it's not so bandwidth heavy
on the Spaceship Institute
... Is that better Mr Keshe?
(MK) Yeah! We can hear you now,
it's a beautiful picture.
What I want to do,
I will try to set something to show,
the same thing, with the
dynamic magnetic fields of our Plasma.
This ...is ...
We did this about four years ago,
three, four years ago
and it was the only way we could
see the field... dynamic fields.
Now, as I always said,
when you start, we start.
So, we are going to show you,
we'll most probably video it this week
and we're gonna show it.
We have plenty of GaNS's that we can mix,
because we've seen the magnetic channels.
And now we can show by putting...
same kind of container
(V) There's another
important piece Mr Keshe,
I want to, just, let you to know about it.
...is that,
.. when I initially shook it and it started
to rotate on the top of the amino acids,
it was rotating in one big...
galaxy kind of formation.
But as the time went on,
we've seen it get faster and faster
and smaller and smaller,
on one side of the container.
And then it split in the two
and the other one
rotated in the opposite direction.
So, that, I just wanted to say,
because that's a confirmation
on what you said about
the Universe as well.
Where, our Universe came from another
Universe and has a sister Universe.
(MK) This is the division of a neutron.
This is something
I want to speak about tomorrow
It's on the list to speak about tomorrow.
That's how neutrons divide.
(V) But I don't want to take too much
time in the kids workshop.
(MK) Yeah, but the kids have to see.
to understand that it's not talk,
they can see the motion out of without...
You showed it with the magnets.
Now you show it in the liquid state,
which is the human body itself.
(RC) Yeah! JF has a really nice
demonstration too.
I don't have the links on hand here.
If someone could post that in Skype,
I could put that up as well.
I ... would have to find it.
He has some... time-lapse pictures that...
of a very similar effect
of the... the spinning of
this upper surface of the fluid.
Very interesting.
(MK) Maybe... Maybe we can show something
if you can bring the Livestream on,
that the children see for the first time.
We have shown.
If you can go on a Livestream
where we are live on the...
What you call it? ...on the lab.
(RC) Sure!
(MK) Where ... If you can put it up
and then I explain it.
This is very interesting
and this is the most significant work
which the foundation has done up to now.
If the world of science understands
and it changes the future of the humanity.
But it's good to...
for the children to see
how the life has changed
and how this technology,
has, more or less today of
what we've shown since yesterday,
confirms the major breakthrough
in the... in the world of motion.
... I'm just waiting for you
to put the link up that we can see it.
(RC) It's up there now, it'll be coming
through on your Livestream right away.
In Livestream,
we are on Livestream.
(MK) Okay, it's coming up.
We see a Sun...
No! We need our Livestream,
we haven't seen it yet.
(V) Yeah! I might just need
to refresh because it's up there for me
Just refresh the screen.
(MK) Yeah, he's clicking on we
see the clicks now
Okay, it's coming up
If you can show go up please that,
we can see the red arrow
The red arrow, we want to see the red
arrow. Close up to the red arrow, please.
If you close up,
that red pipe on the thing.
If you...
No! Down, down, down.
No, not on the rope,
at the bottom.
(V) Yeah, on the right side Rick.
(MK) On the right side
on the bottom plate,
where the three reactors are sitting.
..if you can close up we show you.
Okay! What is important,
we have shown for the first time.
That, position in respect to the Earth
can be found without burning the fuel.
This to us, we've been looking at this for
the past 24 hours... 48 hours.
He started somewhere above the
blue tag and today we put a marker on it
That's where the red pipe is, you see,
and we have descended by about
two centimeters without burning any fuel.
And, as before we saw the kilogram changes.
Now it's the
first time we see positioning.
This is what we set out to do
and in a way we have
proven in a very simple way
and it's nice to show
it for the first time
on a children's channel...
of the programs of the Foundation
because, this will touch every life
of every human being on
this planet, from now on.
You see three very small
four reactors are working.
The red arrow, after we left it
for 24 hours to call it like stable
was at the blue distance at 27
and now 29 and half and now it is 27.
So we are... descending
towards the... to the ground
and this is without burning any fuel.
This is what we said
a couple of weeks ago.
That, motion and position
can be achieved
without burning off any fuel
and without destroying anything.
And now this physically shows it.
It is... This 2 centimeters or so change
is for a nearly 11 and
a half kilogram weight.
It's not a feather that we moved.
And this is significant,
this is a major breakthrough.
Is distanced from the Earth,
there is no levitation.
This is a pure
magnetic gravitational positioning
of the whole structure,
in respect to the Earth.
Now, we have shown it's possible.
This position can be reached,
and we have shown with the field
detectors that, the field is not that big.
So, this changes...
Literally, this picture shows
the change in the course of humanity.
And this will benefit
every child on this planet.
There'll be no burning of
the fuel to create CO2.
There will be
no damaging of the environment
like what we and
our forefathers have done
by adding CO2 and
changing the climate.
From today and the expansion of this
knowledge in the coming weeks and months.
This is why we say
goodbye to fossil fuels.
We do not need to burn,
to obtain and attain position.
And in the coming time the system that
we have shown can produce its own energy.
So, it's a self sufficient,
very much what you saw,
as a clear ball with three magnets in it
and then the fourth magnet coming inside.
This is the real operation of it.
Not as a toy,
but what the big boys play with.
And, you saw those three see-through
balls with the magnet in it.
These are three copper cores with
the materials in it, which is a Plasma.
And, if you can see the difference,
there's the fourth one
which the gentleman brought down and you
saw it rotating, is rotating on the top.
So, what you saw as toys,
this is the reality and it
has changed your life.
We have come down 2 cm roughly,
but originally from yesterday we have
come down nearly 5 centimeters.
There is no burning of the fuel
we are changing position by changing
magnetic field in a very slow pace.
And, we will see if we go back up again
because, we see an increase
and decrease in the mass before.
So, in so many ways
this is a historical picture,
and for time to come.
This is like the first time, as I said,
... Bell spoke on the telephone line
or, Edison showed the first light.
This is as more... As important as
when man landed on the Moon
If... For those who understand
what this means.
Because now,
you do not from now on,
your generation does not need
to burn fuel to go up in the air.
You just create magnetic fields.
And, you create
a Plasma and that's all it is.
Four tiny little Plasma's,
weight, less and most probably
less than 5 grams of fuel
which is not burning,
it's just sharing its fields
have managed to move 11 kilogram
about 2 centimeters from the data,
from this afternoon about 3 o' clock.
So we wait to show that
this is not a levitation,
but is
magnetical gravitational positioning.
And this is one of the most historical
pictures you have ever seen in your life,
if you understand it.
This little picture, that little reactor
you see in front of you rotating,
has changed your life and
the life of the Man on this planet.
We have achieved
positioning without burning
and then we can extend this to
a knowledge that we can fly
anywhere around the Earth without
burning any fuel, by positioning yourself.
Any other questions,
or anything that you want to discuss?
(V) So, I'll try to go faster on
my building of my reactors then!
(laughter)
(MK) Now we have shown it is done.
The taboo in positioning has broken
because this is a live view,
and it can be recorded and it can be seen.
(V) This is the really interesting thing
because last night during
the Plasma group meeting,
I had found another piece of...
tubing that fits over my legs very good,
and... I was considering using a,
a sliding system, to be
able to position that top reactor
wherever I want,
in a certain measurement.
So... I think I will
shoot for that goal now
so I can dynamically
change the position
of that center top reactor.
(MK) You see, the way we
have set the reactor here,
we can adjust the height of it.
It's been brought down
to the lower level
we can just release the nuts and push
the reactor further up the position.
But, the whole purpose was to keep it
as close as possible to the ground level,
and... it seems to be working.
We'll test it later on,
we move the reactor number, the
principal reactor on the top, further up
to see if the positioning will make that
difference, but I think it'll be more.
It's about the right place,
maybe, we have to move it a little bit.
But if you look at the field monitors
are very, very, very low.
The field monitors are
about 14 millitesla.
And... So, we see the system is active
and this is a major, major breakthrough
in the world of science.
It cannot be denied,
it's there, it's been a live program,
and we will watch it
over the next few days.
And it can be seen, it's an open space
that, everybody can see there is nobody...
There is as we said no moth,
hanging off the board in the background.
The system is going down and
then we will most probably
see it will go up too
because it is a characteristic of it.
... Depends on what
field balance they find.
It's a very, very interesting position.
This is... This, if you take
pictures of this
in the future, you will understand
how significant this is.
(KD) Mr Keshe, you know, people have been
talking for decades about anti-gravity
and I've learned from you
that this is total nonsense.
... Maybe we should, or you could...
maybe... with a short explanation,
explain why this term "anti-gravity"
is not correct ?
(MK): Anti-gravity is not correct because
Man did not understand that,
the gravity is made of the same fields as
magnetical field of the planet is made of.
The anti-gravity... is... does not exist.
The word is... even should
not be in the vocabulary of the Man.
You create a gravity in one object
and the other object
creates its own gravity
and when they find balance
between the magnetical and gravitational
field of both objects
then, this is where you're
going to be positioned.
So, Earth is constantly
positioned in respect to the Sun
in a given position due to
the balance of these fields.
But in this system now,
we have the possibilities
and control to change the fields.
So, let's say one day we are the Moon
in respect to the Earth
and we change the fields,
Tomorrow we are Saturn,
in respect to the Earth.
We stand further or we come closer.
And, now we see the operation of
the magnetical and gravitational fields.
.. In a way, if anti-gravity was correct
what we call the tides of the oceans
will be an anti-gravity system and
gravity system in respect to the Earth.
But in fact, the
gravitational magnetic fields of the moon
in certain times,
in respect to the Sun,
in respect to the rotational field
of the Earth
and the position of the Earth in the
Solar System,
is less interfered by the Sun.
So, the fields of the Earth
are much freer to interact
so we get a high tide
and the low tide.
It's not that the fields of the Earth
are anti-gravity in respect to Moon.
It's just that the magnetical
gravitational field of the Sun is less.
In given time, positions in respect to
two entities, of the Moon and the Sun.
So, we call it the
high tide and the low tide.
So we call it anti-gravity and gravity.
Let's call the high tide gravity
and the low tide anti-gravity.
That's all it is, it does not exist
It doesn't make sense.
So, anti-gravity is a terminology,
because Man didn't understand.
Now we understand,
it's magnetical gravitational positioning.
So, anybody who speaks
about anti-gravity systems
is what we call the old people,
even we are old too.
So, Armen's looking at me,
says "I'm not old!"
He's very young at heart.
So this is what it is. The word
anti-gravity doesn't exist,
it's gravitational magnetic positioning.
If you increase the gravity of your
system, magnetical... you get attracted
and if you decrease it you get
repulsed through the magnetical field.
There's a lot of rewriting of the
history of man's science from now on.
(RC) I think that there is a similar
concept to what we were going to discuss
at the first of this workshop,
which was the gaming
and kids games and so on-and how it...
(MK) Have you seen our games?
Our games are...
This is a toy of adults you see.
(RC) Yes Right!
The three of us are playing,
this is our toy.
(RC) Absolutely it's... When you are
small you have what was called a "Top".
Remember? The tops
where you pushed down...
on the top of the top and it would spin
in a very similar way.
So, this is...
You get to play with the same toys
you had as a child, only a little better!
(MK) This is...
very, very, very interesting.
(RC) But the idea that you brought up of
anti... this concept of anti-gravity
which is incorrect is similar...
I'm making an analogy,
with the kids games of today
that... instead of a positive positioning,
inside the game,
you might say,
in the space of the game,
the kids are more
in a mindset of "anti-"
in other words, they are against all
the other entities in the game,
they are busy trying to shoot them,
to kill them,
to get rid of them from their space.
... It's all anti- anti- anti-
as opposed to
learning to co-exist in that space
even with some of
these bad entities, let's say
Because it's a different mindset,
where you just avoid those entities
rather than conflicting with them
and trying to eliminate them.
(MK) Let me explain something
very interesting
which in the long term
man has to face,
especially the youngsters.
People do not understand
what the killing means
and that's why
it's become fashionable.
When you kill a man,
you take life or breathing away from him.
But, you do not take the essence of
the creation which are his cells,
and then what happens?
You put a man, you buried a man.
What happens?
The cells evolve and they get eaten
by worms by other animals.
The worms get eaten by,
let's say, the birds.
And, part of the nourishment of the body
of the man becomes vegetation,
which grows above because
the root reaches the man.
The question to kill is very simple.
Would you like to eat another man?
Because you eat the food
which grows out of it.
Would you like to eat the bird?
Which has eaten the worm,
which has eaten the man.
If the human race understands this,
we would never touch a gun.
Because when you kill a man
you don't throw him in Space
and he goes away.
It becomes part of the structure
that is eaten by you or
your future generations.
Would you like to eat another man?
Why don't you eat it when it's alive
rather than killing it and
eating it later on?
This has to come home to humanity.
It's delayed time but at the end
it becomes part of you.
This is what has not been understood.
That the wars give nothing but,
you eating the man you have killed.
Go back to the beginning of the time,
eat your partner, eat your friend.
Why do you kill a man,
that you have to eat it later on?
So, you carry your own crime with you,
and your future generation.
Because what
you have put down and you've eaten,
you have to
carry the burden of his Soul too.
And, this is what people don't understand.
And, this is... If people who create
these games understand, themselves,
they'd never make these games.
It's become fashionable,
because actually,
it's become fashionable only because
it suits the people who make guns
That they can justify,
in the future,
the boy who kills on the computer game,
to kill on the field.
And we've seen how this has translated
in past few months
from the top boys playing games,
killing games,
on the streets of London, Paris, New York,
Washington, anywhere in the world.
Now, they are flying
in all shapes and forms,
to see if they can do it in
real in Syria and Iraq.
All these boys, you look at them,
they're all computer game players.
Now they want to
go to the field of reality
and what comes back from them is a coffin.
(RC) They've even modified
the controls of the weapons
to be similar to the gaming controls.
(MK) Exactly.
So, the burden
of the killing of youngsters
goes back to the man,
who orders the guns to be manufactured.
It's going to be a horrible time for
those who are even in the game place.
Because, the people who manufacture
these gun games and shooting games,
they are, and now they have become part
of the criminal scene
and their Souls
have to pay for their work.
This is very deep.
If you go and look into it,
you want to open it for children
if you want to have a normal Soul
operation and live a normal life,
it has to become habitual
not to touch because
then even by picture killing
then, it becomes a man killing
because of normality.
And that's what they are trying to do.
Violence to become a normality.
I think the way they have banned
sex movies and people,
children cannot watch pornography
there should nowhere on this planet
one can buy a single game
with guns in it or shoots.
I think the biggest mistake,
has been for Disney.
Nobody has followed him,
and if they had followed the way
he had made cartoons
It was all pleasure and no fighting,
even... you never see anybody
being killed, in cartoons
of Disney,
when he was in charge.
They used it to abuse it,
so we will see what happens.
What I said to somebody recently is
"Start going and find out what happens
to the game makers."
Paris, Tokyo, South Korea,
now there are people making games.
Life, the history of... the life
of these game makers,
who make all these battlefields
and gun fields.
You see how...
What a horrible life they live.
Because, now they
become part of the criminality.
Any other things we can...
or we have had our time for today.
(RC) Yeah, we're up to almost
an hour here,
so we probably should end it for today...
... Maybe, we can get into that topic
a little more in the next workshop,
in the terms of gaming and so on,
and we illustrate with a
couple of... games and so on.
That was quite interesting.
Is there anything else we should announce
or talk about before we end?
(MK) Not really.
We'll see you tomorrow morning.
The thing is we're nearing Christmas so
most probably the second week of..
or the third week of December
and the first two weeks of... January
we will not have a workshop because,
the children are all on their holidays
and God knows where they are.
And we would like to be a child too.
(RC) Right.. Okay, that sounds good,
we'll make an announcement for that.
(MK) We'll see you tomorrow morning!
(RC) Yes! Thank you Mr Keshe
(everyone says goodbye)
(RC) Okay, so that's the end of the
9th Kids Knowledge Seekers Workshop
and once again, I thank everyone
for attending.
Thank you Keyvan for helping organize
and for, of course for Mr Keshe,
for all the information he gives us.
Okay.
Okay! Bye everyone!