Ok so Saturday I went to the gunshow at ontario, even though its more like a swap meet now with all the useless junk they sell there. Anyways besides the point. I saw a older gentleman and that is being conservative wearing ACU's with E-5 rank, 101st patch airborne and air assault badges on. But the kicker was instead of US Army name tape it said some stuff like SGCA or SCGA....Anyone know what this is? and why the hell was he wearing this at the gun show?

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I saw a older gentleman and that is being conservative wearing ACU's with E-5 rank, 101st patch airborne and air assault badges on. But the kicker was instead of US Army name tape it said some stuff like SGCA or SCGA....Anyone know what this is? and why the hell was he wearing this at the gun show?

Southern CA Golf Association?

Well people wear stuff like that cause they wanna be cool looking. I'm gonna guess that he's a poser and didn't wanna overdo it so he just had the air assault badge.

I'm most likely half the guys age and my uniform is in the back of my closet.

*Eliminate the term "militia"; it's now become a dirty word. Community Watch is just as good.

*No cammies in public...ever. Polo shirts and cargo pants are sharper looking in the public eye. If I were a legitimate Army dog (Active, Guard/Reserve, or former) I would take offense to them wearing my uniform especially those with facial hair etc.

Otherwise I get where they are coming from but their appearance and approach is on the provocative side.

Edited to add: Also in addition to the kinetic stuff (shooting stuff up) I would do some non-kinetic humanitarian ops to keep favor in the public eye (feed the homeless, habitat for humanity, etc.) Otherwise you look like a bunch of dudes in cammies, shooting stuff up and waiting for the takeover.

If you buy a gun from me and fail to pass background, I will keep at least 50% of the sale price to compensate me for the time you've wasted of mine (sale and failed sale pickup), so if you're in doubt, don't buy my guns.

*Eliminate the term "militia"; it's now become a dirty word. Community Watch is just as good.

*No cammies in public...ever. Polo shirts and cargo pants are sharper looking in the public eye. If I were a legitimate Army dog (Active, Guard/Reserve, or former) I would take offense to them wearing my uniform especially those with facial hair etc.

Otherwise I get where they are coming from but their appearance and approach is on the provocative side.

-Well put sir

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But frankly, as soldiers and former soldiers, we see this through a different lens than the average civilian. The uniform means more to us.

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If you’re driven by partisan tribalism more than ideology, if getting in rhetorical digs at liberals thrills you more than persuading adversaries or achieving policy victories, it makes sense that you would fight substantively inconsequential battles with no more or less vigor than any other…

But frankly, as soldiers and former soldiers, we see this through a different lens than the average civilian. The uniform means more to us.

again well put........I have (like many of us and our wonderful founding fathers) have fought in these uniforms they wear, I have seen my comrades die in the uniform they are disgracing. I have no problem with the average civilian wearing camo hiking or going to the range, I do have an issue when they have that american flag on the right shoulder or unit patches on reenacting Red Dawn in the desert.

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11460. (a) Any two or more persons who assemble as a paramilitary
organization for the purpose of practicing with weapons shall be
punished by imprisonment in a county jail for not more than one year
or by a fine of not more than one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by
both that fine and imprisonment

Yeah, the patches kinda rubbed me the wrong way too. If a guy was 82nd Airborne in vietnam or panama, and he throws their patch on his kit while messing around in the desert, then im cool with it. All the Way, paratrooper. But if a 300lb 20yr old who calls MOLLE "mole" gear (yes, I have heard that) is wearing 10th Mountain or 2ID. On his sleeve because it looks cool, then we might have some words. Now those words may be "ya know, my brother was 2ID." "Really? Mine too, that's why i have the patch!" I can understand, but there may need to be some clarification. Hell, I remember the Marines not wanting their terps or corpsmen wearing MARPAT for a while (they have sense relented, and i doubt it was ever enforced) so i'd imagine they'd be upset about civilian militias rocking it.

What's up with civilians' (those who never served) fascination of wearing cammies in public? I mean if you really like wearing tactical gear and uniforms why not just join the military? To me regardless of your reason if you never served you don't rate to wear a military uniform, you're a wannabe poser if you do.

Yeah, the patches kinda rubbed me the wrong way too. If a guy was 82nd Airborne in vietnam or panama, and he throws their patch on his kit while messing around in the desert, then im cool with it. All the Way, paratrooper. But if a 300lb 20yr old who calls MOLLE "mole" gear (yes, I have heard that) is wearing 10th Mountain or 2ID. On his sleeve because it looks cool, then we might have some words. Now those words may be "ya know, my brother was 2ID." "Really? Mine too, that's why i have the patch!" I can understand, but there may need to be some clarification. Hell, I remember the Marines not wanting their terps or corpsmen wearing MARPAT for a while (they have sense relented, and i doubt it was ever enforced) so i'd imagine they'd be upset about civilian militias rocking it.

I love the concept of people teaching other people something they have little to no knowledge about, for a mission that they are in no way qualified for, using a rank structure based on god knows what.

CSMR are totally different, I've worked with those guys before and they are legit. They have my support 100% They are a state/federal recognized group. The militia weenies we are talking about here are different. Don't get the two mixed.....the CSMR support this wonderful nation. The other dudes pray for our nation to slip up so they can get crazy with their bullet button ar's

__________________We need to ban water to stop the poor fat kids from drowning - Ted Nugent

I saw the same older gentleman in ACUs talking to the guy at the "Mag Magnet" booth. It made me mad seeing that guy their trying to push his worthless product. I wish I still had a "Stop SB249" flyer and slam it right on his booth. I saw him violate CA Assault Weapon laws about a dozen times, with that stupid magnet over the BB.

*Eliminate the term "militia"; it's now become a dirty word. Community Watch is just as good.

*No cammies in public...ever. Polo shirts and cargo pants are sharper looking in the public eye. If I were a legitimate Army dog (Active, Guard/Reserve, or former) I would take offense to them wearing my uniform especially those with facial hair etc.

Otherwise I get where they are coming from but their appearance and approach is on the provocative side.

Edited to add: Also in addition to the kinetic stuff (shooting stuff up) I would do some non-kinetic humanitarian ops to keep favor in the public eye (feed the homeless, habitat for humanity, etc.) Otherwise you look like a bunch of dudes in cammies, shooting stuff up and waiting for the takeover.

Well said, Stan!

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