Haha, I always have to laugh at posts like this about Nannes. It's not like a Morgan/Joyce situation; the bloke was born in Victoria, lived there all his life and learnt his cricket there. He qualifies for the Netherlands through heritage; nothing more. It'd make the World Cup more interesting if he was playing for them so I wish he was but it's hardly a farce that it isn't; he's Australian.

But the point is that he chose to play for Holland, and when he had a good run for them, Australia suddenly reclaimed him....
Hardly helps the development of the Associates if they're conveniently used and discarded like this, does it?

Haha, I always have to laugh at posts like this about Nannes. It's not like a Morgan/Joyce situation; the bloke was born in Victoria, lived there all his life and learnt his cricket there. He qualifies for the Netherlands through heritage; nothing more. It'd make the World Cup more interesting if he was playing for them so I wish he was but it's hardly a farce that it isn't; he's Australian.

Not that I disagree, but that's not quite a straight example. Hard to see where Morgan and Joyce would be as cricketers without county cricket.

But the point is that he chose to play for Holland, and when he had a good run for them, Australia suddenly reclaimed him....
Hardly helps the development of the Associates if they're conveniently used and discarded like this, does it?

He was hardly "poached" though - he'd made it well known that he wanted to play for Australia, and unlike someone like Joyce, he's a lot more Australian than he is Dutch. If anything he was poached by Holland for a little while until he was rightly claimed by the country he grew up supporting and the country whose cricket system got him where he was. Holland were under no illusions as to his intentions when they picked him.

If there is an injustice here (and I'm not necessarily saying there is), it's him playing for Holland in the first place.

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Freddie is the greatest cricketer ever so the fact these comparisons are being made means three things:

He was hardly "poached" though - he'd made it well known that he wanted to play for Australia, and unlike someone like Joyce, he's a lot more Australian than he is Dutch. If anything he was poached by Holland for a little while until he was rightly claimed by the country he grew up supporting and the country whose cricket system got him where he was. Holland were under no illusions as to his intentions when they picked him.

If there is an injustice here (and I'm not necessarily saying there is), it's him playing for Holland in the first place.

This is where I prefer FIFA's ruling, which protects weaker teams (Holland, Ireland) from being poached by bigger teams (England, Australia). In football, once you choose an international team, you can't play for another.

This is where I prefer FIFA's ruling, which protects weaker teams (Holland, Ireland) from being poached by bigger teams (England, Australia). In football, once you choose an international team, you can't play for another.

This would only weaken minnows in cricket IMO; it'd discourage the likes of Cooper, Nannes, Joyce, Morgan, RtD etc from playing for minnows in the first place. They'd just hold out.