totally agree that standardising a use and making it common place is a great idea and love the idea of medics being trained to turn up and scan as a matter of course. If they can get it established as a standard practice the great!

The problem I see is;

They have taken hardware and not added anything other than an incredibly simple app to it (not really in the spirit of the community but hey-ho)

People who are already chipped, i personally think the need to move there standard location to say the forarm or upper arm like the contraceptive implant.

Have to travel to London to get it installed, have to hand my personal information over to someone I have no idea who they are.

Until commonplace or backed by gouverment / NHS (medical providers) then there really is no point

Looking back at this I feel like I have come across as a bit of a hater
I love the idea of this stuff becoming more mainstream, I also just worry that this is exactly the kind of implementation that can taint things as a gimmick or insecure and they missed some great opportunities for education such as the app telling you how/where to scan.

That’s if they can scan it… I have had mine a few days an I sometimes miss the correct location for my implant. I think you’d probably have better luck making a device with a prox LF type coil and giving it to paramedics than trying to get them all to know where the coil in there phone is. Or the app could at least have instructions. Currently you open the app and click SOS and it tells you to “Scan the implant” with a pretty loading animation of there logo… Why not some guidance or something?

Remaining NFC enables phone scan options but it doesn’t have to be a phone… EMTs and ERs could have special hardware just the same, but still allow phones to work in a pinch. As for instructions and standardizing locations etc, all that is being considered.

Rosco:

The paramedic would if the app was somehow vetted and mandated by the NHS, AND medical professionals were trained to look for a chip as part of their first aid approach routine

Agree

Rosco:

AND a sizeable portion of the population had implanted itself.

Not totally necessary… more info on this coming… this was a major issue for VeriChip back in 2004-2006 and one of the many reasons they failed… but we can easily address this issue in multiple ways. The first is that the implant is not deep in the tricep, so you can actually just poke at the person to feel it. We also have trademarked several simple medical style tattoo designs that a person with a chip could easily get to indicate where their chip is and what it’s orientation is, making for easy identification and scanning by trained personnel.

Devilclarke:

People who are already chipped, i personally think the need to move there standard location to say the forarm or upper arm like the contraceptive implant.

Considering the above, I think there could be several “standardized” locations EMTs could quickly check by just touching the person to feel for a subdermal implant. Maybe 3 max though. This is being discussed.

Devilclarke:

Have to travel to London to get it installed, have to hand my personal information over to someone I have no idea who they are.

Traveling would do you no good… if it’s not offered in your area, then there is no protocol for scanning it in your area, so it’s pointless. Chips will likely become available in other geographies as system support and training is rolled out.

One thing I would be interested in is if there is an intention to remove the NDEF record requirement? It seems to use the UID of the implant and not any of the data in the record (the tag was linked to my account regardless of the data in the ndef record but if the ndef record was not there no implant was detected) As it would make the device more multi purpose / let us use existing tags with that ecosystem.

One thing I would be interested in is if there is an intention to remove the NDEF record requirement?

Devilclarke:

Imma come out and say it ffs!

Payday is the 26th imma order on… even if it is just for the blue blinky

they aren’t doing installs now… that’s on hold for the moment. If you can’t wait, it’s literally an xSIID… you can get it from dngr.us/xsiid

if you want blue blinky, get blue blinky… but Impli not likely to remain using it for long… there are… well… let’s just say that I personally think VivoKey Apex makes much more sense for use with secure patient identity and medical records applications than an insecure NTAG based implant. That’s all I’m going to say about it for right now.

I do have details… more info coming soon… but for now…
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We also have trademarked several simple medical style tattoo designs that a person with a chip could easily get to indicate where their chip is and what it’s orientation is, making for easy identification and scanning by trained personnel.

Ah AH! So you have a hand in this. Now that’s becoming much more interesting…

amal:

if you want blue blinky, get blue blinky… but Impli not likely to remain using it for long… there are… well… let’s just say that I personally think VivoKey Apex […]

Dude, have you ever thought of becoming a full-time salesman?

Be careful of the Duke Nukem Forever effect though: if you build up too much expectation for a product too soon and you deliver too late, or the product disappoints even a little bit, it actually hams the product. The Apex had better be on time and phenomenally good, with all the plugs you’ve dropped