Its means that a bunch of muslimtards are doing exactly what they said they would do, mainly put the country they rule back in the 14th century.The internet is hated by Muslims, they say its because of the "filth" but its really the freedom.The internet represents technology, easier living, and most importantly, freedom.Anathema to a bunch of bloodthirsty religious fanaticd that kill young girls for having the nerve to get raped

You can ignore the consequences ofyour actions, but you cannot ignorethe RESULTS of the consequences of your actions

Its means that a bunch of muslimtards are doing exactly what they said they would do, mainly put the country they rule back in the 14th century.The internet is hated by Muslims, they say its because of the "filth" but its really the freedom.The internet represents technology, easier living, and most importantly, freedom.Anathema to a bunch of bloodthirsty religious fanaticd that kill young girls for having the nerve to get raped

Quoting: bvndy

GOT IT..

Great men wake up to slay spam tards. Most are content to chase lizards. Therein lies the difference. Live Brave.

Its means that a bunch of muslimtards are doing exactly what they said they would do, mainly put the country they rule back in the 14th century.The internet is hated by Muslims, they say its because of the "filth" but its really the freedom.The internet represents technology, easier living, and most importantly, freedom.Anathema to a bunch of bloodthirsty religious fanaticd that kill young girls for having the nerve to get raped

I was going to post a thread earlier today about Syria but it wasn't Doomy enough... The US is finally recognizing the opposition for the first time ever. My initial thoughts were that something would finally happen in Syria. Obama wants his muzzie brotherhood in power. I expect regime change soon and this internet shut off could mean something could be in the works?

Another thing, we hear all the time that no matter who is in power in Syria, they'll most likely still be enemies with US and Israel. Why remove Assad if someone just as bad or worst comes to power? The answer is the US would probably remove all chemical weapons from Syria after the fall of Assad. Therefore, another nasty regime may take Assad's place, but atleast they wont have the largest stockpiles of chemical weapons in the world...

Its means that a bunch of muslimtards are doing exactly what they said they would do, mainly put the country they rule back in the 14th century.The internet is hated by Muslims, they say its because of the "filth" but its really the freedom.The internet represents technology, easier living, and most importantly, freedom.Anathema to a bunch of bloodthirsty religious fanaticd that kill young girls for having the nerve to get raped

Quoting: bvndy

It may surprise you to learn that in the cities of countries like Syria, under the dictatorship, that people became quite secular and focused on all of the things that people who live in western cities focus on. Sure they have Islam as a pert of the background noise. Just like the west has Christianity as a part of the background. And even a few fundamentalists who make Christianity look really bad. They are not all zealous demonstrators of the fervour of their faith. The dictators like the Shah of Iran were forces for modernization, westward looking. Maybe you do not remember that Beirut was once a cosmopolitan city and compared to Paris. Young people used to go as tourists to Afghanistan. Even Tehran was a desired exotic destination. There are lots of people in the Islamic world who would be just like you and me if they had the chance.

Let's see if Anonymous have the balls to attack/hack Bashar Assad's Russian and Chinese protectors/overlords ---> and reveal the true extent of tyrany & totalitarism present in those 2 powers under friendly smiling surface they like to present the West.

Because so far, Anonymous has shown they can ony (seriously) mess with the tolerant, relatively nice Israel and US -- i.e. with those who are not likey to skin them alive & castrate their family members with rusty knives while they watch like Russia or China presulably would if they ever get thir hands on Anonymous.

I mean, since Anonymous is SO against censorship of the Internet and against government bullying....

Let's see if Anonymous have the balls to attack/hack Bashar Assad's Russian and Chinese protectors/overlords ---> and reveal the true extent of tyrany & totalitarism present in those 2 powers under friendly smiling surface they like to present the West.

Because so far, Anonymous has shown they can ony (seriously) mess with the tolerant, relatively nice Israel and US -- i.e. with those who are not likey to skin them alive & castrate their family members with rusty knives while they watch like Russia or China presulably would if they ever get thir hands on Anonymous.

I mean, since Anonymous is SO against censorship of the Internet and against government bullying....

Its means that a bunch of muslimtards are doing exactly what they said they would do, mainly put the country they rule back in the 14th century.The internet is hated by Muslims, they say its because of the "filth" but its really the freedom.The internet represents technology, easier living, and most importantly, freedom.Anathema to a bunch of bloodthirsty religious fanaticd that kill young girls for having the nerve to get raped

Quoting: bvndy

It may surprise you to learn that in the cities of countries like Syria, under the dictatorship, that people became quite secular and focused on all of the things that people who live in western cities focus on. Sure they have Islam as a pert of the background noise. Just like the west has Christianity as a part of the background. And even a few fundamentalists who make Christianity look really bad. They are not all zealous demonstrators of the fervour of their faith. The dictators like the Shah of Iran were forces for modernization, westward looking. Maybe you do not remember that Beirut was once a cosmopolitan city and compared to Paris. Young people used to go as tourists to Afghanistan. Even Tehran was a desired exotic destination. There are lots of people in the Islamic world who would be just like you and me if they had the chance.

Quoting: Prostetnik

Well, you can thank your liberal "useful idiots" in Canada, as well as Socialist Francois Mitterand of France, Jimmy Carter in the US and a few other "enlightened" elites in the West who undermined Shah of Iran and FORBADE him to use strong-man tactics against a brewing revolt when it could have been squashed relatively painlessly/blood-lessly.

Then Ayatollah co-opted, well hijacked the revolution & the government -----> and got the Islamo-Fascist ball (slowly) rolling. Exporting terror & promulgating Islamic radicalism all over the world ever since. And the Saudis and Qataris didn't want to be out-done by the "heretical Shia", so they got in the game of erecting mosques & radical Madrassa schools that would raise a new generation of Islamic psychos....

So it was only a matter of time until Muslim Bastardhood sprung out from all the holes and crevices in Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and so on.

So, um, old timers who obliviously, impotently sat by and let it happen... thanks for all that. We're gonna have to clean up this messs with a World War 3, it looks like.

Let's see if Anonymous have the balls to attack/hack Bashar Assad's Russian and Chinese protectors/overlords ---> and reveal the true extent of tyrany & totalitarism present in those 2 powers under friendly smiling surface they like to present the West.

Because so far, Anonymous has shown they can ony (seriously) mess with the tolerant, relatively nice Israel and US -- i.e. with those who are not likey to skin them alive & castrate their family members with rusty knives while they watch like Russia or China presulably would if they ever get thir hands on Anonymous.

I mean, since Anonymous is SO against censorship of the Internet and against government bullying....

Wrong. They didn't do SHIT in either Tunisia or Egypt -- certainly nothing remotely effective --- and so the radicals are now firmly in control in both countries, and only growing stronger ---- just ask "Morsillini".

And re-read my post. I clearly singled out Russia and China. The 2 biggest (totalitarian) trouble-makers in the world, by a far.

The Anonymous are too IMPOTENT and CHICKEN-SHIT to ever go up against Russia or China in any sustained, meaningful way.

All Anonymous can do is terrorize individuals they don't like or maybe once in a while steal some credit cards of Americans or Israelis --- knowing full well, Israel and America are relatively nice and have better things to do than hunt some wannabe Robin Hoods.

Russia and China and the FSB-Oligarch-Mafia that run those 2 countries....on the other hand... if you mess with their business interests, their asssasin-torture squads will fuck you up 100 most sadistic ways before they are through.

And for all their "V for Vendetta" posturing, Anonymous/Julian Assange **know** that. So they prefer to WORK for Russia and China, it's much safer & more lucrative that way, I guess.

Its means that a bunch of muslimtards are doing exactly what they said they would do, mainly put the country they rule back in the 14th century.The internet is hated by Muslims, they say its because of the "filth" but its really the freedom.The internet represents technology, easier living, and most importantly, freedom.Anathema to a bunch of bloodthirsty religious fanaticd that kill young girls for having the nerve to get raped

Quoting: bvndy

It may surprise you to learn that in the cities of countries like Syria, under the dictatorship, that people became quite secular and focused on all of the things that people who live in western cities focus on. Sure they have Islam as a pert of the background noise. Just like the west has Christianity as a part of the background. And even a few fundamentalists who make Christianity look really bad. They are not all zealous demonstrators of the fervour of their faith. The dictators like the Shah of Iran were forces for modernization, westward looking. Maybe you do not remember that Beirut was once a cosmopolitan city and compared to Paris. Young people used to go as tourists to Afghanistan. Even Tehran was a desired exotic destination. There are lots of people in the Islamic world who would be just like you and me if they had the chance.

Quoting: Prostetnik

Well, you can thank your liberal "useful idiots" in Canada, as well as Socialist Francois Mitterand of France, Jimmy Carter in the US and a few other "enlightened" elites in the West who undermined Shah of Iran and FORBADE him to use strong-man tactics against a brewing revolt when it could have been squashed relatively painlessly/blood-lessly.

Then Ayatollah co-opted, well hijacked the revolution & the government -----> and got the Islamo-Fascist ball (slowly) rolling. Exporting terror & promulgating Islamic radicalism all over the world ever since. And the Saudis and Qataris didn't want to be out-done by the "heretical Shia", so they got in the game of erecting mosques & radical Madrassa schools that would raise a new generation of Islamic psychos....

So it was only a matter of time until Muslim Bastardhood sprung out from all the holes and crevices in Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and so on.

So, um, old timers who obliviously, impotently sat by and let it happen... thanks for all that. We're gonna have to clean up this messs with a World War 3, it looks like.

Thanks again :)

Quoting: asV 8438481

Are you fucking serious? If the US and Britain had not meddled in a democratic country's (which Iran was before the Shah was installed) affairs in the first place the Shah would have never been in power.

The only "Mess" over there is because the US has meddled for years because of geopolitical reasons - to control resources. All the the hatred toward the US is BLOWBACK for our own hegemonic policies.

Let's see if Anonymous have the balls to attack/hack Bashar Assad's Russian and Chinese protectors/overlords ---> and reveal the true extent of tyrany & totalitarism present in those 2 powers under friendly smiling surface they like to present the West.

Because so far, Anonymous has shown they can ony (seriously) mess with the tolerant, relatively nice Israel and US -- i.e. with those who are not likey to skin them alive & castrate their family members with rusty knives while they watch like Russia or China presulably would if they ever get thir hands on Anonymous.

I mean, since Anonymous is SO against censorship of the Internet and against government bullying....

Wrong. They didn't do SHIT in either Tunisia or Egypt -- certainly nothing remotely effective --- and so the radicals are now firmly in control in both countries, and only growing stronger ---- just ask "Morsillini".

And re-read my post. I clearly singled out Russia and China. The 2 biggest (totalitarian) trouble-makers in the world, by a far.

The Anonymous are too IMPOTENT and CHICKEN-SHIT to ever go up against Russia or China in any sustained, meaningful way.

All Anonymous can do is terrorize individuals they don't like or maybe once in a while steal some credit cards of Americans or Israelis --- knowing full well, Israel and America are relatively nice and have better things to do than hunt some wannabe Robin Hoods.

Russia and China and the FSB-Oligarch-Mafia that run those 2 countries....on the other hand... if you mess with their business interests, their asssasin-torture squads will fuck you up 100 most sadistic ways before they are through.

And for all their "V for Vendetta" posturing, Anonymous/Julian Assange **know** that. So they prefer to WORK for Russia and China, it's much safer & more lucrative that way, I guess.

LOL, such poseurs.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8438481

You're just wrong. You said Anon never messed with other than Israel and US but now want to quibble over the term "seriously". Watch the documentary on Anonymous - they took serious steps in Tunisia.

I am sure they would have no problem going after Syria or anyone backing them. Oh, wait, they already have gone after China: [link to abcnews.go.com]

And if you come back with, yeah but those weren't *serious* attacks then, well, lol.

Its means that a bunch of muslimtards are doing exactly what they said they would do, mainly put the country they rule back in the 14th century.The internet is hated by Muslims, they say its because of the "filth" but its really the freedom.The internet represents technology, easier living, and most importantly, freedom.Anathema to a bunch of bloodthirsty religious fanaticd that kill young girls for having the nerve to get raped

Quoting: bvndy

It may surprise you to learn that in the cities of countries like Syria, under the dictatorship, that people became quite secular and focused on all of the things that people who live in western cities focus on. Sure they have Islam as a pert of the background noise. Just like the west has Christianity as a part of the background. And even a few fundamentalists who make Christianity look really bad. They are not all zealous demonstrators of the fervour of their faith. The dictators like the Shah of Iran were forces for modernization, westward looking. Maybe you do not remember that Beirut was once a cosmopolitan city and compared to Paris. Young people used to go as tourists to Afghanistan. Even Tehran was a desired exotic destination. There are lots of people in the Islamic world who would be just like you and me if they had the chance.

Quoting: Prostetnik

Well, you can thank your liberal "useful idiots" in Canada, as well as Socialist Francois Mitterand of France, Jimmy Carter in the US and a few other "enlightened" elites in the West who undermined Shah of Iran and FORBADE him to use strong-man tactics against a brewing revolt when it could have been squashed relatively painlessly/blood-lessly.

Then Ayatollah co-opted, well hijacked the revolution & the government -----> and got the Islamo-Fascist ball (slowly) rolling. Exporting terror & promulgating Islamic radicalism all over the world ever since. And the Saudis and Qataris didn't want to be out-done by the "heretical Shia", so they got in the game of erecting mosques & radical Madrassa schools that would raise a new generation of Islamic psychos....

So it was only a matter of time until Muslim Bastardhood sprung out from all the holes and crevices in Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and so on.

So, um, old timers who obliviously, impotently sat by and let it happen... thanks for all that. We're gonna have to clean up this messs with a World War 3, it looks like.

Thanks again :)

Quoting: asV 8438481

Are you fucking serious? If the US and Britain had not meddled in a democratic country's (which Iran was before the Shah was installed) affairs in the first place the Shah would have never been in power.

The only "Mess" over there is because the US has meddled for years because of geopolitical reasons - to control resources. All the the hatred toward the US is BLOWBACK for our own hegemonic policies.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8625642

Oh good lord, please don't waste my time with your PC revisionist history nonsense. Maybe try to impress your UC Berkeley or Columbia U "neo-Marxist" wannabe professor so he can change your grade from C- to C+.... but that sh!t don't work on me.

The old "Apcacalyptic Twelveer Mullahs only hate us because of our meddling" fallacy.... `

As for Mossadegh...you see, this is how it works in a JUST and FAIR world: West has spent time, money and resources looking, discovering, extracting, refining, transporing and providing huge consumer demand-market for the "black oil" ----> without which the life in the Middle East would be literal HELL on Earth right about now.

So as "thanks" for all that countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait have rightfully continued to have somewhat productive relationships with the West and Western corporate intersts --- without whom, again, their lives would be horrific as their population swelled up to present size. Hell, even WITH oil, M.E. countries lives are full of misery and turmoil, imagine all that but WITHOUT those 100 of BILLIONS of dollars of easy revenue.....Mercy!

Well, anyway, there was this Marxist wannabe, Mossadegh. He thought he was a WISE guy. He thought that after the West had spent enormous amount of time, expertise and hard work developing Iraninan infrastructure & energy capacity -----> thus benefitting both the East and the West needs, much like American capitalism and free-market ideas & credits have literally taken 500 MILLION out of crushing poverty in China and India in the last 30 years....

Well, Mossadegh said "thanks for all THAT, by the way... but now that we no longer need you, get the fuck out!"

Mossadegh certainly wasn't going to equitably and fairly COMPENSATE the Western companies for all their decades of hard work and investments. Not under any kind of reputable arbitrage system, anyway. At most, he offered some pitiable scraps.

And then CIA, MI-6 said, "Whoa, buddy, not so fucking fast. You still OWE use a ton both in back-owned and in future-revenue generating that you so unceremoniously decided to take away from us.."

Enter Shah of Iran. The man provided stability and modernity to Iran, without breaking commitments to Western partners. He was friend with Israel because unlike most people in M.E. he didn't HATE the Jews with passion of 10,000 raped goats......

It is said that during Shah's regime women's skirts in Teheran were SHORTER than men's skirts in Paris :)

In short, Iran messed with Texas. And they will get a real fucking blow-back in fairly short order, my friend. Just watch and weep.

It may surprise you to learn that in the cities of countries like Syria, under the dictatorship, that people became quite secular and focused on all of the things that people who live in western cities focus on. Sure they have Islam as a pert of the background noise. Just like the west has Christianity as a part of the background. And even a few fundamentalists who make Christianity look really bad. They are not all zealous demonstrators of the fervour of their faith. The dictators like the Shah of Iran were forces for modernization, westward looking. Maybe you do not remember that Beirut was once a cosmopolitan city and compared to Paris. Young people used to go as tourists to Afghanistan. Even Tehran was a desired exotic destination. There are lots of people in the Islamic world who would be just like you and me if they had the chance.

Quoting: Prostetnik

Well, you can thank your liberal "useful idiots" in Canada, as well as Socialist Francois Mitterand of France, Jimmy Carter in the US and a few other "enlightened" elites in the West who undermined Shah of Iran and FORBADE him to use strong-man tactics against a brewing revolt when it could have been squashed relatively painlessly/blood-lessly.

Then Ayatollah co-opted, well hijacked the revolution & the government -----> and got the Islamo-Fascist ball (slowly) rolling. Exporting terror & promulgating Islamic radicalism all over the world ever since. And the Saudis and Qataris didn't want to be out-done by the "heretical Shia", so they got in the game of erecting mosques & radical Madrassa schools that would raise a new generation of Islamic psychos....

So it was only a matter of time until Muslim Bastardhood sprung out from all the holes and crevices in Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and so on.

So, um, old timers who obliviously, impotently sat by and let it happen... thanks for all that. We're gonna have to clean up this messs with a World War 3, it looks like.

Thanks again :)

Quoting: asV 8438481

Are you fucking serious? If the US and Britain had not meddled in a democratic country's (which Iran was before the Shah was installed) affairs in the first place the Shah would have never been in power.

The only "Mess" over there is because the US has meddled for years because of geopolitical reasons - to control resources. All the the hatred toward the US is BLOWBACK for our own hegemonic policies.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8625642

Oh good lord, please don't waste my time with your PC revisionist history nonsense. Maybe try to impress your UC Berkeley or Columbia U "neo-Marxist" wannabe professor so he can change your grade from C- to C+.... but that sh!t don't work on me.

The old "Apcacalyptic Twelveer Mullahs only hate us because of our meddling" fallacy.... `

As for Mossadegh...you see, this is how it works in a JUST and FAIR world: West has spent time, money and resources looking, discovering, extracting, refining, transporing and providing huge consumer demand-market for the "black oil" ----> without which the life in the Middle East would be literal HELL on Earth right about now.

So as "thanks" for all that countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait have rightfully continued to have somewhat productive relationships with the West and Western corporate intersts --- without whom, again, their lives would be horrific as their population swelled up to present size. Hell, even WITH oil, M.E. countries lives are full of misery and turmoil, imagine all that but WITHOUT those 100 of BILLIONS of dollars of easy revenue.....Mercy!

Well, anyway, there was this Marxist wannabe, Mossadegh. He thought he was a WISE guy. He thought that after the West had spent enormous amount of time, expertise and hard work developing Iraninan infrastructure & energy capacity -----> thus benefitting both the East and the West needs, much like American capitalism and free-market ideas & credits have literally taken 500 MILLION out of crushing poverty in China and India in the last 30 years....

Well, Mossadegh said "thanks for all THAT, by the way... but now that we no longer need you, get the fuck out!"

Mossadegh certainly wasn't going to equitably and fairly COMPENSATE the Western companies for all their decades of hard work and investments. Not under any kind of reputable arbitrage system, anyway. At most, he offered some pitiable scraps.

And then CIA, MI-6 said, "Whoa, buddy, not so fucking fast. You still OWE use a ton both in back-owned and in future-revenue generating that you so unceremoniously decided to take away from us.."

Enter Shah of Iran. The man provided stability and modernity to Iran, without breaking commitments to Western partners. He was friend with Israel because unlike most people in M.E. he didn't HATE the Jews with passion of 10,000 raped goats......

It is said that during Shah's regime women's skirts in Teheran were SHORTER than men's skirts in Paris :)

In short, Iran messed with Texas. And they will get a real fucking blow-back in fairly short order, my friend. Just watch and weep.

Quoting: asV 8438481

There is some truth to what you are saying, but only to the extent that most of out conflicts have the tendency of paving the way for our multinational corporations to profit. However, I think "history" is subjectively written by the "victor" and therefore we likely provoked the response you suggest by being over-controlling and demanding too much, a la the tactics set forth in Economic Hit Man.

Anonymous needs to attack the media who lies to the American people. The main reason why Americans are so stupid in the first place. If Anonymous isn't run by the CIA then why not start informing the masses through hacking news stations and telling the American people whats really going on in the world.

Well, you can thank your liberal "useful idiots" in Canada, as well as Socialist Francois Mitterand of France, Jimmy Carter in the US and a few other "enlightened" elites in the West who undermined Shah of Iran and FORBADE him to use strong-man tactics against a brewing revolt when it could have been squashed relatively painlessly/blood-lessly.

Then Ayatollah co-opted, well hijacked the revolution & the government -----> and got the Islamo-Fascist ball (slowly) rolling. Exporting terror & promulgating Islamic radicalism all over the world ever since. And the Saudis and Qataris didn't want to be out-done by the "heretical Shia", so they got in the game of erecting mosques & radical Madrassa schools that would raise a new generation of Islamic psychos....

So it was only a matter of time until Muslim Bastardhood sprung out from all the holes and crevices in Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and so on.

So, um, old timers who obliviously, impotently sat by and let it happen... thanks for all that. We're gonna have to clean up this messs with a World War 3, it looks like.

Thanks again :)

Quoting: asV 8438481

Are you fucking serious? If the US and Britain had not meddled in a democratic country's (which Iran was before the Shah was installed) affairs in the first place the Shah would have never been in power.

The only "Mess" over there is because the US has meddled for years because of geopolitical reasons - to control resources. All the the hatred toward the US is BLOWBACK for our own hegemonic policies.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8625642

Oh good lord, please don't waste my time with your PC revisionist history nonsense. Maybe try to impress your UC Berkeley or Columbia U "neo-Marxist" wannabe professor so he can change your grade from C- to C+.... but that sh!t don't work on me.

The old "Apcacalyptic Twelveer Mullahs only hate us because of our meddling" fallacy.... `

As for Mossadegh...you see, this is how it works in a JUST and FAIR world: West has spent time, money and resources looking, discovering, extracting, refining, transporing and providing huge consumer demand-market for the "black oil" ----> without which the life in the Middle East would be literal HELL on Earth right about now.

So as "thanks" for all that countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait have rightfully continued to have somewhat productive relationships with the West and Western corporate intersts --- without whom, again, their lives would be horrific as their population swelled up to present size. Hell, even WITH oil, M.E. countries lives are full of misery and turmoil, imagine all that but WITHOUT those 100 of BILLIONS of dollars of easy revenue.....Mercy!

Well, anyway, there was this Marxist wannabe, Mossadegh. He thought he was a WISE guy. He thought that after the West had spent enormous amount of time, expertise and hard work developing Iraninan infrastructure & energy capacity -----> thus benefitting both the East and the West needs, much like American capitalism and free-market ideas & credits have literally taken 500 MILLION out of crushing poverty in China and India in the last 30 years....

Well, Mossadegh said "thanks for all THAT, by the way... but now that we no longer need you, get the fuck out!"

Mossadegh certainly wasn't going to equitably and fairly COMPENSATE the Western companies for all their decades of hard work and investments. Not under any kind of reputable arbitrage system, anyway. At most, he offered some pitiable scraps.

And then CIA, MI-6 said, "Whoa, buddy, not so fucking fast. You still OWE use a ton both in back-owned and in future-revenue generating that you so unceremoniously decided to take away from us.."

Enter Shah of Iran. The man provided stability and modernity to Iran, without breaking commitments to Western partners. He was friend with Israel because unlike most people in M.E. he didn't HATE the Jews with passion of 10,000 raped goats......

It is said that during Shah's regime women's skirts in Teheran were SHORTER than men's skirts in Paris :)

In short, Iran messed with Texas. And they will get a real fucking blow-back in fairly short order, my friend. Just watch and weep.

Quoting: asV 8438481

There is some truth to what you are saying, but only to the extent that most of out conflicts have the tendency of paving the way for our multinational corporations to profit. However, I think "history" is subjectively written by the "victor" and therefore we likely provoked the response you suggest by being over-controlling and demanding too much, a la the tactics set forth in Economic Hit Man.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8625642

"Some truth"? LOL, riiigh.

So you're denying the fact that truly incalculable role Western techonologies, inventions and work-ethic... have played in vastly enriching the M.E. countries? Not even talking about education, medicine, food we provided them =--> just the massive oil-revenue alone in the TRILLIONS of dollars over the ensuing decades????

If Mossadegh wasn't happy with the terms of the agreements, he could have been an adult about it and tried to re-negotiate in good faith.

Instead, he must have seen too many Hollywood movies and decided to be a Rambo Chuck Norris Ghandi all rolled into one. He decided to go the Che Guevara/Hugo Chavez route.

And he got what he deserved.

And the funny thing is, even after 33 years of systematic brutality & reperession & religious brainwashing by the Ayatollahs.... most (younger) Iranians HATE the Ayatollahs with a passion. If not for 5 million strong IRGC & Basij militia, Ayatollahs would have been overthrown long ago. Still might be soon.

So proof, as they say, is in the pudding, Ol' Boy.

As for corporations... you don't have to love them, I know I don't, you just have to admit the penultimate truth: American/Capitalist system has proven itself as SUPERIOR to all other systems, as per Sir Winston. Even Maoist China and Ghandi'st India have realized that. Even former KGB thug like Vladimir Putin has embraced the reality. Even Fidel freakin' Castro has softened up on the issue, for crying outloud.

And like it or not, corporations, banks and rich people are an INTEGRAL part of any healthy, dynamic society and economy.

Its means that a bunch of muslimtards are doing exactly what they said they would do, mainly put the country they rule back in the 14th century.The internet is hated by Muslims, they say its because of the "filth" but its really the freedom.The internet represents technology, easier living, and most importantly, freedom.Anathema to a bunch of bloodthirsty religious fanaticd that kill young girls for having the nerve to get raped

Quoting: bvndy

Be specific! It isnt muslims-. It's Salafist jihadists being trained and armed by the west, and Saudi Arabia, to eliminate moderate Islam, and set up harsh Sharia governments. It's cynical manipulation of fanatical primitives for geopolitical purposes.

Without the training and arms, THEY'D BE A BACKWATER SECT with no influence.

The US and Saudis, specifically.

The war is on, world war with the heat turning to Russia (Cauacuses).

Then Karma time, Americans, it is hopefully and finally coming to YOUR neighborhood.

No excuses, no laziness, no delusions.

Why the US and no where else? Because the US is home to number 1 terrorist enablers in the history of the planet. Bad ass, ugly, powerful, dangerous -- you know who they are..

Hopefully, when your tender ass is slapped around enough you'll kill it. And the world can move on!