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After watching Larissa & Jim on the island for a bit and getting a good dose of how unbelievably vapid Jim is, I burst out laughing when Fredo blurted out exactly what I was thinking: "He's no conversation piece that's for damn sure".

My second favorite line (from Jim): "I want to be more than just a good looking guy who's dumb".

I thought that the whole show was contrived. The producers wanted Fredo to quit so they made him do the sub thing. Otherwise they would of had Brian go with him - maybe even Gil too.

The producers wanted Brian in the finals.

I just think it was cruel how they treated Fredo. And of course he was going to quit. Any self-respecting man would.

I am done with this show because this show is out there to make Jack asses out of people who already feel bad about themselves. What are they trying to do here? Scare people for the rest of their lives.

I did think, when they had the other folks on the show speak about their feelings on Fredo's leaving, that Brian would've said something different if he'd been in the sub instead of Fredo. I don't think Brian would've quit necessarily -- he doesn't seem the type to quit after coming that far. But I don't think he would've held it against Fredo as much that he left.

I also thought Fredo should have told her face to face why he was leaving -- maybe not in front of the other guys but then at least Larissa wouldn't have been able to take the cheap shot of 'Well, I was gonna get rid of him tonight anyway.'.

I personally think she would've let Gil go last night, not Fredo. But that's just supposition.

***"Live every day as if it were your last, because one of these days, it will be." - Jeremy Schwartz

Exactly! I had the same feeling about them dynamiting poor Tony's boat!

>I thought that the whole show >was contrived. The producers >wanted Fredo to quit so >they made him do the >sub thing. Otherwise they >would of had Brian go >with him - maybe even >Gil too. >>The producers wanted Brian in the >finals. >>I just think it was cruel >how they treated Fredo. >And of course he was >going to quit. Any >self-respecting man would. >>I am done with this show >because this show is out >there to make Jack asses >out of people who already >feel bad about themselves. >What are they trying to >do here? Scare people >for the rest of their >lives.

help i'm dying here, i missed the episode last night.why did Fredo walk off, why did he get so upset? fill me in please

Larissa and Fredo went on a one-on-one date, which went ok. Lots of conversation, nothing remotely steamy. Fredo was still very much interested in Larissa.

Later, Larissa and Jim went on a one-on-one date at what they thought was a private beach. They were all over each other, making out in the water. She had this short sleave shirt and this fish net material over top - both were soaked. It was pretty hot.

Unbeknownst to Larrisa and Jim, the show sent Fredo out in a submarine 40 yards out from the beach. Fredo got to watch from the periscope. He was shocked, bitter, and disappointed. They interviewed him right as he was watching the action. He was raw and unfiltered.

I personally didn't see any reason for Fredo to come to the elimination. And for Brian to make that comment, let him watch the video and decide for himself if it was more dignified to walk off, or be humiliated and told to go home. I believe the producers really dropped the ball on that one.

I am trying to fathom any scenario where Brian will come out on top? The only one is Larissa doesn't care who wins because she will eventually dump the winner for her own career. So why not make herself look noble (for a few days) and pick Brian.

I am trying to fathom any scenario where Brian will come out on top? The only one is Larissa doesn't care who wins because she will eventually dump the winner for her own career. So why not make herself look noble (for a few days) and pick Brian.

I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment mmm_. If Larissa picks Brian it will be because that is what she thinks she is supposed to do, not because she sees a lasting future with him.

I wanted Fredo to tell her to her face that he was disgusted with her and he wanted out. It would have been so enjoyable to watch. Instead she makes the remark that she was going to boot him anyway. I'm not so sure that was true. But it was her way of saving face. And I didn't appreciate what Brian said about how Fredo left. Maybe if Brian had seen what Fredo did, he wouldn't be saying that. But I think Brian would have stayed even if he had seen it. He would have probably made some excuse for Larissa like Jim was attacking her.

Gil is so blah and boring. I wouldn't want either of her final 2. I think I would of walked off in the sunset with Jim's dog. He was the cutest one of the bunch. LOL!

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