If there is another carrier coming that makes the magic number 3. If they have 3 in the area something is coming and coming very soon.

In this case, probably not. Three ACTIVE carriers in place does, indeed, trigger alarm bells. But as sirric said, if the Lincoln is simply to relieve
the Stennis, then we aren't really talking three carriers. Carrier deployments to that area are usually five to seven months, including transit time.
The Stennis is coming up on five months, so they're running out of Diet Coke. Normally on the way back they'll visit a port of call. the Stennis is
a west coast carrier, so it will head back to the Pacific.

This will be the Lincoln's last deployment for several years because after this it will head, probably through the Med, to the east coast for
refueling starting the summer of 2012.

Technology matters a lot, no denying it, but skill strategy and the desire to defend the homeland matter more. If China invaded the USA, i would
defend the USA as best I could not matter what tech China had.

If there is another carrier coming that makes the magic number 3. If they have 3 in the area something is coming and coming very soon.

In this case, probably not. Three ACTIVE carriers in place does, indeed, trigger alarm bells. But as sirric said, if the Lincoln is simply to relieve
the Stennis, then we aren't really talking three carriers. Carrier deployments to that area are usually five to seven months, including transit time.
The Stennis is coming up on five months, so they're running out of Diet Coke. Normally on the way back they'll visit a port of call. the Stennis is
a west coast carrier, so it will head back to the Pacific.

This will be the Lincoln's last deployment for several years because after this it will head, probably through the Med, to the east coast for
refueling starting the summer of 2012.

Very true, I am not sure what other ships and tech we have in place. It is nice to be back on topic thank you.

If you include the French ship I guess you could say they will have 3.

Technology matters a lot, no denying it, but skill strategy and the desire to defend the homeland matter more. If China invaded the USA, i would
defend the USA as best I could not matter what tech China had.

Do you work for the Iranian army and you have inside information on this subject? I did not say that they could, I am saying that they may have the
capability, its not hard to do that for Iran, especially a country which downed our drone and blinded one of our spy satellites.

Technology matters a lot, no denying it, but skill strategy and the desire to defend the homeland matter more. If China invaded the USA, i would
defend the USA as best I could not matter what tech China had.

I have read your posts before this thread you are not the defending type. If it walks like duck........

To be honest I like this thread so lets just leave it were it is instead of arguing pointless things back and forth.

I think it is important to note that an "enemy" still within his borders cannot be in an aggressive stance. If international waters are just that,
international domain, they can send their entire armada and still be in their legal right to be there. It is a precarious situation but it is not
illegal, much like it is not illegal for the US to send its forces. The question is whether it is indicative of war or not. The US leadership has
already made it clear that it would not mind having a war with Iran. The American people on the other hand do not want it.

It is sad as Americans that our will is deaf to leadership and that our congress is there as a side note to history. The very notion of due process
could prevent this war if congress would be asked, as it is supposed to be, what do the people want you to vote for. What do the American people think
is best for the American people.

The military is there to serve as our defense, not as our moral guide. The president is there to see the needs and propose to congress means to solve
those problems. Congress is in theory the representation of the people and listen to the will of the people. The whole system has been circumvented
and is being exploited with a loophole.

It is like the Cuban missile crisis. Kennedy didn't want to send in spy planes because he knew they would be shot at, as did the military. That
would have been the spark to light the flame. We are all better for those brave pilots lying about being shot at so as to prolong negotiations and
keep the peace. Eventually Cuba disarmed and the Russians went home. The story would have been different if war had broken out. We all see that.

"The United States is bating China and Russia, and the final nail in the coffin will be Iran, which is, of course, the main target of Israel. We have
allowed China to increase their military strength and Russia to recover from Sovietization, to give them a false sense of bravado, this will create an
all together faster demise for them. We're like the sharp shooter daring the noob to pick up the gun, and when they try, it's bang bang. The coming
war will will be so severe that only one superpower can win, and that's us folks. This is why the EU is in such a hurry to form a complete superstate
because they know what is coming, and to survive, Europe will have to be one whole cohesive state. Their urgency tells me that they know full well
that the big showdown is upon us. O how I have dreamed of this delightful moment."

I just want you to notice that the people here advocating peace are mostly American.
Our leadership has not been informed of ATS but as soon as they get the memo, they will sign up and get with the freeky deeky

But you must hate the USA because you are often saying things that if happened would lead to the death of americans and their allies and you appear to
take delight in stating it. The leaders of the USA are indeed elected by the US nationals and if you hate them, vote them out. You live in a free
nation, I know I have visited the USA and have family there. You can support any religion you wish and worship in public, women and men are equal, you
are given right to make your own choices based on common law rather than fundemental religious beliefs and you are given the ability to lead a wealthy
and relativly care free lifestyle supported by your countries internal and foreign policies. If you wish to give all of that up, then I suggest you
move to Iran.

To be honest you have made my blood boil recently, to see a citizen of a nation talk in the way you have, you don't deserve the freedoms your nation
allows you. If you were speaking from Iran in the same tone against Iran, you would be long gone already. Can you really not see what good your nation
does for you?

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