<DREAM Paragon> 3/4 HC Terrace - Will they finish @ #1?

Looking at a time per boss kill (efficiency), it looks like Paragon currently is creeping up from behind. Assuming both 25 and 10 are tuned the same, if they claim World First SoF, would it make sense to break down rankings into 10 man vs 25 man or should they remain in the same global bracket?

Since some fights, historically speaking, have been harder on 25 and on 10, wouldnt it be fair to still give both raid sizes equal weights? Im sure <DREAM Paragon> could have kept this momentum up even under the 25 man umbrella if it wasn't for the exodus of players f rom their former roster.

A majority of us were talking in mIRC this morning and alot of condolences have gone out repeatedly to <Blood Legion> - they are number one during parts of the race, but tend to fall short towards the end.. or will BL finally claim what they've been reaching for at the end of a tier?

Blood legion will release an interview with a monster truck regardless, dream paragon will finish at the top of wow progress as per normal. And all the resto Druids will be filthy that their class wasn't respresented in the world first kill. Business as usual.

Really though, while people should only refer to the brackets separately to avoid nonsensical arguments, there's no reason to remove the joint list from the front page, the guild that kills it first is just that. It's pointless to try and devalue that by dragging poor scaling into the mix.

Atleast for me, there is world first 10man and world first 25 separate
But then - there is one World First guild killed a boss - faster than any other 25 or 10 man guilds.

It doesn't matter if is easier or not, on one or other, if Paragon kill it before others - they will be the world first overall, and world first in 10man aswell, while if they dont - they will be world first in 10man, but world second (or third) overall.

Atleast for me, there is world first 10man and world first 25 separate
But then - there is one World First guild killed a boss - faster than any other 25 or 10 man guilds.

It doesn't matter if is easier or not, on one or other, if Paragon kill it before others - they will be the world first overall, and world first in 10man aswell, while if they dont - they will be world first in 10man, but world second (or third) overall.

I raid 25 in Mop, used to raid 10 in cata (if matters)

Makes sense, since in the real world we also give gold medals for 99 meter sprints and 100 meter seperately!

Originally Posted by Socialhealer

he wants to play ele shaman but it's always fucked up, so it's a state of permanently insulted, i understand that feeling as an ele shaman.

Some bosses are harder on 10 man. I mean there are more 10 man guild so if 10 man was easier #1 it would already have been cleared and by tons of guilds.
I have raided 10 and 25 this tier on 2 different toons, both on heroic. I have to say (personal opinion) most bosses are easier on 25 man.

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Originally Posted by Solidusbr

People only care for 10s now because of Paragon.

Paragon fan boys only care about 10's because of paragon.
Unless you are in that guild I don't see why you care who is world first to anything honestly.

This. I raid 25 man, and we did one reset in 10 man and that shit was a total joke in comparison.

Every raid I've ever done was the same - struggle on 25 a bit... then rofl facestomp 10 man. Although I am not even trying to say which is better or harder - this was just my personal experience thrown into the mix.

This. I raid 25 man, and we did one reset in 10 man and that shit was a total joke in comparison.

Exactly. Good players know 10 man is easier, because your individual effort, as a good player, counts far more than it does in a 25 man. There's also less shit for you to do or worry about for each individual person (less adds, less people, etc.). Any good 25 man raiders can confirm this for themselves whenever they step into a 10 man, save for some specific fights (such as Sarth 3D).

If you're not a good player, I can see why you'd think 10 man is harder since you definitely can't be carried in a 10 man.