This is EXACTLY what was said when the oilhead 1200GS was introduced in 2004... 1150GS owners were aghast... too ugly, too plasticky.... .

I will have to wait and see one in person, but from the pics.....I may be looking for a leftover. We shall see, I remember saying that the "new" RT was pretty ugly, then when I saw one in person, it wasnt THAT bad.

If the material filmed is legit, it does show cruise control (temporeglung). I will be quite excited if that is the case.

Yep, at last ... Amazes me that it took them so long - and that they still don't offer it on the slant fours or R1200R.

Thanks for the translation.

Must admit, the looks are underwhelming, as displayed so far. The torque and power should be plenty though, and a few Nm torque is significant - it will about match the new Multistrada there. Hard to get a big torque rise without adding capacity. Maybe with the extra weight comes more strength.

That happens every time a new model is intorduced. Somehow it is always wrong!

Jim

Look Gents, let's get one thing straight on the eve of this momentous occasion: By almost any objective measure, the new water cooled GS will be better than the last generation, which was designed ten years ago. It may appear fugly (at least at first), evolutionary, and somewhat underwhelming, but,

-It will be faster
-It will get better fuel mileage
-It will stop more quickly
-It will have more effective electronic safety features (better abs, traction control, etc)
-It will be more refined (less clunking, smoother everything, etc)
-It will handle better (less unsprung weight), improved geometry, etc
-It will be more reliable and easier to maintain (changing coolant is a cinch, did it on my old K75 in 20 minutes)

Bottom line: opinions are great, some people will love it and some wont, some will want to buy it while others will claim they will keep their previous gen forever, some will love the styling and some wont, but it will almost certainly be a superior motorcycle by objective measures. Will I get rid of my '09 Adventure? No way. I love it and I doubt that the new generation will be that much better to ride (unless the engine is much smoother, that would force a move). But will I, and most of you, want one in 3 years? Definitely.

Look Gents, let's get one thing straight on the eve of this momentous occasion: By almost any objective measure, the new water cooled GS will be better than the last generation, which was designed ten years ago. It may appear fugly (at least at first), evolutionary, and somewhat underwhelming, but,

-It will be faster
-It will get better fuel mileage
-It will stop more quickly
-It will have more effective electronic safety features (better abs, traction control, etc)
-It will be more refined (less clunking, smoother everything, etc)
-It will handle better (less unsprung weight), improved geometry, etc
-It will be more reliable and easier to maintain (changing coolant is a cinch, did it on my old K75 in 20 minutes)

Bottom line: opinions are great, some people will love it and some wont, some will want to buy it while others will claim they will keep their previous gen forever, some will love the styling and some wont, but it will almost certainly be a superior motorcycle by objective measures. Will I get rid of my '09 Adventure? No way. I love it and I doubt that the new generation will be that much better to ride (unless the engine is much smoother, that would force a move). But will I, and most of you, want one in 3 years? Definitely.

I'm ducking. Fire away.

g-

Sure......opinions are from the eye of the beholder.

I had high hopes but sometimes the next models are not always better........ Yes, the new model will have all the latest bells and whistles while improving the already there bells and whistles but truth be told, the current stuff is a darn good and it doesn't.....

look like it has a Platypus beak
look like they took the side panels and mirrors off the new 2013 F800GS
look like they stole the windscreen and articulation from an RT.
or look like they're using the rims from a Triumph Explorer

And the biggest problem with the new 1225 &1/2GS........it's not PAID OFF like my 1200GS!!