The list of admired Presidents, given belatedly by Punch, had Obama (who had lied to the American people over and over), both Bushes (who kept their zippers up but the younger had a drunk driving conviction and the other ran the CIA for a time), Reagan (who was a randy fellow in his younger days, including bopping a teenaged Elizabeth Taylor when he was in his 30's), Ford (who was never elected President). Carter (who had issues about blacks being deflected to the back door and the Playboy interview where he admitted to lust in his heart), Johnson (who had a virtual harem), Eisenhower (who had a longtime babe on the side) and Truman (whose wife couldn't keep him from swearing a blue streak).

All fallible human beings though Carter was probably the truest husband and the worst president of the lot.

So Gregory Bonking a pornstar while your wife has a babe in arms is just typical. Lying Thousands of time to the American people is typical. on and on... Insulting an American hero McCain for beng a POW in a war he sleazed out of on and on

fish ... what was wrong with the Squire of Gothos episode? All of the old Trek episodes were pretty bad by modern standards. and Tremaine got in some good jabs to Kirk. The other episode was The Trouble With Tribbles... he was the Captain of one of the Klingon ships.

I really don't like the reissued versions with good computer generated special effects... the models dangling from the wires were half the fun!

Trump's lies look more like throwaway hyperbole to me, unlike the baldfaced lying about major pieces of the federal puzzle that Obama did. If you like your plan you can keep your plan was intentionally telling the people of the country a big lie.

McCain, after he was involved in passing along the Fusion GPS "dossier", gave up much of his hero status and he became increasingly petty in his later years. Some of which might have been due to his brain tumor... but he did leave his state without a Senator for far too long.

“On his talk radio program Monday, Rush Limbaugh highlighted a "despicable" series of reports by CNN that he suggested is the byproduct of a larger crisis driving the left-wing media: their growing desperation amid mounting evidence that their campaign to destroy President Trump is failing.

“This obsessive Trump-trashing, said Limbaugh, is the direct result of the media, not Trump, being in "chaos" — and all on account of their failure to "take him out."

It’s because they have failed to do any real harm or damage to Donald Trump, much less take him out," he continued. "Now, I know I’ve said this a number of times. But I’m gonna say it one more time from the point of view that you have to understand how this affects their daily existence. In the minds of everybody that works at the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN — take your pick of any liberal news outlet — they have the power at their fingertips to destroy anybody they want. They have done it over and over again, and they believe they can do it whenever they want to do it."

“The media is used to succeeding in their efforts to destroy people, particularly Republicans and conservatives, said Limbaugh. But Trump is a different animal.”

“Perhaps more unexpected was the degree to which establishment media shifted into criticizing Beto on grounds of identity politics. On CBS, Gayle King asked him about being a loser and whether his status as a “privileged white man” was a problem. CNN referred to him (negatively) as a white male 52 times in a single day. The Daily Beast published an essay on “The Unbearable Male Privilege of Beto O’Rourke” (which at least raised some valid arguments).

“Meanwhile, Politico and HuffPost amplified gripes from feminists that none of the female candidates got the sort of cheerleading O’Rourke’s launch received. This was ironic, given the trend of the coverage. Moreover, Kamala Harris was widely praised for her campaign rollout, including by President Trump. But what matters here is the oxygen Big Media gave to the complaints.

Now that O’Rourke’s field-topping take is public, the establishment media ought to take a look in the mirror, but it is unlikely this will happen. Establishment media elites are part of the small faction of woke progressives trying to drive Democrats further left than the rank-and-file might otherwise go. This same bias caused them to believe Beto would pull out a victory against Ted Cruz. There clearly has been little reflection on their wishful thinking since the midterm elections. The only thing that has changed is the target, from Cruz to Beto, but always from the Left.”

Parting thoughts
1) they sense Impending Doom.
2). Lest we be amiss, remove CA from the equation and Trump won the popular vote. CA ran up the votes for Hilllary, but Trump is in the majority outside this state. Sure, we count all 50 states, but a good reminder to put things in perspective...sitting here in Red NE Cali.

Trump lying about Mexico paying for the wall was "more like throwaway hyperbole" right?

You actually believe that Trump didn't bonk the pornstar and Playboy
Bunny? Oh yeah, I remember that you also didn't believe the 17 Intelligence agencies that said Russia interfered win our election. But you know for sure that Obama lied right?

“McCain, after he was involved in passing along the Fusion GPS "dossier", gave up much of his hero status and he became increasingly petty in his later years. Some of which might have been due to his brain tumor...”

Yep. Trump knew and no wonder he hates McCain. That Dossier caper McCain was involved in unfortunately will forever leave a blackmark on McCain’s record. I will blame the brain tumor to be nice.

Trump knew that the Kavanaugh leaks about Blassy Ford came from Di-Fi’s office. No wonder he called her Sneaky Dianne.

Trump knows, oh he knows. He knows a hell of a lot more than he is letting on. And he can’t talk about it.
A big part of me wants Trump to release a bunch of stuff related to the Great Russian Hoax. When Hillary lost, it was an “Oh shit!” moment for the Obama Administration and the FB and DOJ. They raced to plant the smoking gun on Trump’s body and cover their tracks. Trump did not cause the mistrust in our institutions, he exposed it.

At first I was thinking that Trump is holding back from releasing the goods on the bad boys until the Mueller report is completed and the IG report about the DOJ involvement with the FISA warrant on Carter Page of all people. Don’t want to be accused of obstructing justice....again, A Trump tweet is now called obstruction of justice!, ROFLMAO. Right...
But now.....drumroll please.....but nowI think Trump is holding that bazoka back until the timing is right. He is sandbagging.....like calling Dianne Crimescene ‘Sneaky’ and his reaction to McCain. He knows it all and is waiting for the perfect time to drop those retry four Aces on the table. Long way until October 2020.

Trump and I share a love of beautiful women and both of us know the heartache of those flops like Paul Emery. It is truly sad that all he can think of is Trump's and my conquests. Life is too short to waste your time in envy Paul Emery.

Will the witch hunt actually document the swamp better than ever could have happened? I mean Muller has to pull the trigger on 0's WH lawyer who was in on the deal that Manafort got popped for. Ironic, no? --

Fox News’ chief intelligence correspondent Catherine Herridge believes a claim by Republican North Carolina Rep. Mark Meadows of a coordinated effort to hurt President Trump -- including "sitting ambassadors," the FBI and the Department of Justice -- also likely involves someone in the State Department.

“I think the congressman is referring to someone within the State Department based on my reporting,” Herridge said Tuesday on Fox News Radio’s “Brian Kilmeade Show.” “Because we have a pretty good sense now from these transcripts that have been revealed and then also records that were unsealed at the end last week in the defamation suit with BuzzFeed that … the government network was being pulsed with the dossier in the final months of the campaign and then during the transition period. And that it was coming at the FBI and Justice Department through many different lanes or many different avenues, and the objective was to lend it credibility.”

Paul, I've explained to you the paying for the wall BS before. He never said when, he never said how. It was hyperbole.

He even announced a trade deal he negotiated with Mexico as being 10 billion (placeholder for a big number) and paying for the wall... just as I expected.

I have said before he could have bonked the pornstar. Or other babes. He didn't exactly have a reputation for not indulging in extramarital bonks before he met Melania and she would have to have been blind not to notice. But as Hillary Clinton said about her marriage, that's between husband and wife and their eventual divorce lawyers if it gets to that point.

And no, it wasn't 17 intelligencies that signed off on the Clapper (or was it Brennan) memo... it was a handful of people handpicked by Clapper (or was it Brennan) in three different agencies that signed it off, but that was enough for the weakminded, like you, to accept as the Gospel Truth.

McCain was also dirty as one of the Keating Five senators... from the wiki:
"McCain and Keating had become personal friends following their initial contacts in 1981, and McCain was the only one of the five with close social and personal ties to Keating. Like DeConcini, McCain considered Keating a constituent since Keating lived in Arizona. Between 1982 and 1987, McCain had received $112,000 in political contributions from Keating and his associates. In addition, McCain's wife Cindy McCain and her father Jim Hensley had invested $359,100 in the Fountain Square Project, a Keating shopping center, in April 1986, a year before McCain met with the regulators. McCain, his family, and their baby-sitter had made nine trips at Keating's expense, sometimes aboard Keating's jet; three of the trips were made during vacations to Keating's Bahamas retreat at Cat Cay. McCain did not pay Keating (in the amount of $13,433) for some of the trips until years after they were taken, when he learned that Keating was in trouble over Lincoln."

fish ... what was wrong with the Squire of Gothos episode? All of the old Trek episodes were pretty bad by modern standards. and Tremaine got in some good jabs to Kirk. The other episode was The Trouble With Tribbles... he was the Captain of one of the Klingon ships.

I really don't like the reissued versions with good computer generated special effects... the models dangling from the wires were half the fun!

The “Squire of Gothos” seemed like an afterthought......”The Trouble with Tribbles” was a classic! And yes......he did play the Klingon commander and played it rather understatedly compared to the over the top performance of his first officer who started the fight in the bar!

Here is what Seattle looks like now. San Francisco is even worse. Politicians of the left have destroyed the once beautiful places. One hour documentary by KOMO. Watch it and see what the left brings us.

Here's one for you Gregory. How is this different than Obama making promises about health care?

"Trump Has Said Mexico Will Pay for the Border Wall at Least 20 Times Since 2015"

President Donald Trump has repeated the campaign rallying cry that Mexico will pay for a border wall along the U.S.-Mexico border since at least 2015.

Earlier this week in a meeting with Democratic leaders Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, Trump claimed that he would “shut down the government” on Dec. 21 over border security if Congress does not approve $5 billion in funding for a border wall.

Following his heated demands, the president defaulted to his talking point that Mexico will pay for the wall, in a tweet on Thursday morning. Trump pointed to a new USMCA deal between the U.S., Mexico, and Canada and said, “MEXICO IS PAYING FOR THE WALL!”

The president has made the claim on Twitter, in interviews, and at press conferences and campaign rallies at least 20 times since April 2015.

In April 2015, he said on Twitter that the U.S. would build the border wall and “deduct costs from Mexican foreign aid.” Just days later, he made the same demand in a tweet, while also peddling a false story about ISIS operating training camps near El Paso, Texas.

During his presidential announcement speech on June 16, 2015, Trump said, “I will build a great, great wall on our southern border. And I will have Mexico pay for that wall.” Trump has fired up his supporters with the anti-immigrant talking point at a number of campaign rallies and in the press since then.

In August 2015, the Trump campaign released its position on immigration reform. Part of the platform was titled, “Make Mexico Pay For The Wall.” During an appearance with CBS’s Face the Nation, Trump doubled down on that policy, and said, “And, by the way, Mexico will pay for it. It’s going to be a great wall,” he added, because “I know how to build.”

In a tweet in January 2016, Trump praised political commentator Ann Coulter—who has platformed white nationalist talking points to her audience—and again said Mexico would pay for the wall.......

Paul, the answer was already given. He'd even said after one trade agreement was made that it WAS the wall payment. Little by little.

It's like most of the "lies" that you come up with... taken out of context, with a worst case spin, unwilling to look at interpretations that make it true or at least reasonably so.

Really, Paul. Give it a rest.

The difference with Obama and healthcare is that he KNEW it was a lie that people who liked their plan would be able to keep it. That they'd be able to keep their doctor if they liked their doctor. And, perhaps the biggest and baddest lie... that the average family would save $2500 a year.

Hey Paul. I admire your tenacity in trying to convince everyone Trump is a horrible President. I have had the conversation with my liberal friends often. Nobody can dislodge a Trump voter from Trump except Trump. The only thing that will dislodge such a Trump voter is when he becomes one of “them.” If he acts like a politician, he gone. Virtually all Trump voters will vote to re-elect and there isn’t anything you or MSNBC or CNN or even Mueller can say that will change that. In fact the only person that I will even consider other than Trump is Schultz. I would like to hear more from him, but I think that he is four years early in any event. I don’t see another Republican or Democrat on the horizon that I’d even remotely consider. Interesting times in which we live and it was nice to very quickly bump into last week.

Of course, he later said,"he would invoke Section 326 of the US Patriot Act — the “know your customer” provision that requires financial institutions to know who they’re dealing with in transactions — to issue “detail regulations” under 31 CFR § 130.120-121 that would block remittance payments to Mexico from unauthorized immigrants.

As we learned, the only problem with this plan was that he "cited the wrong statute, and remittance payments go back to Mexican residents, not the government."

The man is a con and those that believe in him get conned the most. He makes you look like a dunce Greg, and don't expect an apology.

Well, that’s a no brainer. Different study, different year, same results...

“The use of cannabis with a high concentration of THC has more harmful effects on mental health than the use of weaker forms," said lead author Marta Di Forti, a professor at the Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology and Neuroscience at King's College London.”

Ozz. Lol. Nobody cares what he said except the people that didn’t vote for him. Trump voters want immigration reform, a wall to stop further illegal immigration, smaller government, energy independence, and jobs, jobs, jobs. Trump voters want a leader who loves all Americans and American values espoused by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. They see Trump as that leader. Y’all who didn’t vote for him are just haters and quite angry people. “Have coke and a smile shut the f@&% up.” 😂😂😂

You are being consciously oblivious to how pot is used. People smoke less weed with high THC to get the same effect. In framing an argument against drinking, prohibitionists like Bessee would make the false argument that liquor consumers only drink to get smashed and buy only Everclear and 151.

6) Abolish the 2nd Amendment
7) This one is nuanced: Do not abolish the 1st Amendment,, but abolish its protections.
8) Grab bag. Free healthcare for all, free college, abolishment of student debt, etc.
9) Open Borders
10) Abortion up to the minute of birth

“My view is that every vote matters and the way we can make that happen is that we can have national voting, and that means get rid of the Electoral College.” —Elizabeth Warren

“I think there’s a lot to [abolishing the Electoral College]. Because you had an election in 2016 where the loser got three million more votes than the victor. It puts some states out of play altogether. They don’t feel like their vote really counts.” —Beto O'Rourke

“What if there were five justices selected by Democrats, five justices selected by Republicans, and those 10 then pick five more justices independent of those who picked the first 10? I think that’s an idea we should explore.” —Beto O'Rourke

“We have exactly one chance left to defeat climate change — and that’s during the next administration. … If it’s not job one, it won’t get done. And I’m the only candidate that’s saying that right now.” —Washington Gov. Jay Inslee

***Opps. Forgot the big one. 10) Stop the oceans from rising.

“Immigration is not a security issue. It is an economic and a humanitarian and a family issue.” —Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand

I care! I didn't vote for Trump either. Still wouldn't, given the same choices.

However, I don't care for ANY of the alternatives the anti-Trumpers want, either. So, in the meantime, Trump won the election fair and square, he IS the President of all the United States, with all the powers of the office. If they can be ignored because Orange Man Bad, they can be ignored for the next guy or gal.

“What if there were five justices selected by Democrats, five justices selected by Republicans, and those 10 then pick five more justices independent of those who picked the first 10? I think that’s an idea we should explore.” —Beto O'Rourke quoted by Toz at 850pm

That's bloody clueless if accurate. "Beto" appears to be an empty suit.

New bad word. Can’t say henchmen. Must say “hench characters”. Thank you Kamala Harris for enlightening us on TV.

Meanwhile, illlegal aliens entering the country on track to be over a milllion this year, March on track to be over 100,000. Feb (usually a lower month due to weather) highest numbers in ten years. It’s a manufactured crisis. Good thing the entire fakenews MSM promised us the “caravan” would never reach the border. It was just fear mongering and another Trump lie!