brizz

LadyChic wrote:I guess you can have a sub 75 IQ and a woot account - lucky for you!

before you spout off like the village sweetie ookie-nookums again, read the thread. Snarkygal complained about it being another Mona Lisa entry. Having a Mona Lisa entry is not breaking a rule. Mona Lisa is not a celebrity. Mona Lisa entries do not get rejected for being Mona Lisas. Just because you dont personally like Mona Lisa entries or you think an entry is lame, doesnt mean someone else should not be able to enter a Mona Lisa.

If an entry was rejected for being lame, we would only be left with 8-10 a week to choose from.

How come stupid people are always the loudest? My guess...
overcompensation.

lmao

you erased half of the most famous painting in history and added some arial text to it - and you have the audacity to insult the intelligence of those who might question that?

as for your last comment, you would know, right? You have certainly shouted the loudest here *giggles* tee-hees!

jbedwar1

JadenKale wrote:Jbedwar, I just realized you are promoting Failoan's turtle. Cute! Now, wouldn't an angry little beaver work well with it too? And I loved Renee's suggestion, the little guy can work well with Angry Day... It can be angry weekend!!!

Well i must say that i am extremely dissappointed that you didnt notice my sig sooner. I sported the beaver since the day it was posted. and not just with one of these small sig pics... it took up the entire row. I only changed it today after receiving my turtle since it was close to the end of this derby anyway.

LadyChic

you erased half of the most famous painting in history and added some arial text to it - and you have the audacity to insult the intelligence of those who might question that?

as for your last comment, you would know, right? You have certainly shouted the loudest here *giggles* tee-hees!

I have the audacity to mock the intelligence of those who cant read and comprehend that I did not submit that piece of junk. I only commented that Snarky was a fascist. What part of that comment escaped you?

Josephus

byrbwr wrote:this shirt IS shirt woot. will it win? nope. will that shirt with a globe and an X on it win? yes. why? who knows.

how come all the good shirts never win

uh, this one was submitted on Monday afternoon. A great deal of the total votes come on Friday and Saturday. Had he entered it on Friday, I'm sure it would have done better. That is part of the fun of this being a Derby, the early entries have an advantage. speed does matter in the derby.

dekonstruct

Aberrantic

dekonstruct wrote:Aberrantic you're going to have to be a little more specific as to why this shirt is not artfully executed. If you mean there are no frills then you have arrived at the point of this design. It's minimal enough to show only what needs to be shown, to me that's what made it work.

minimalism, gestalt, Bauhaus, all valid "art" movements no matter how big a game they talked were still relevant and artful.

Hmm, I suppose it is the simplicity that kills it for me... An Earth, a mouse, an 'x.' It's a bumper sticker image, not art. I guess, if i may make an analogy of sorts, it's not art to me the way AlvinPing's dream shirt was art to me. Although he took clipart pictures, he modified and creatively overlapped them in a way that made them different from the stock images, whereas this, if you did make any changes, I'm afraid I can't see them. Like I said, I do think this is a clever idea, and the idea works, but the execution does not work for me as a shirt. I hope that wasn't too confused an explanation

Aberrantic

Just out of curiosity, has the artist stated that? Even in five card draw, I would stay in, keeping the suited connectors and switching out the other three. And there are other variations of poker in which I believe this hand would not be a total loss. No need to yell.

brizz

Aberrantic wrote:Just out of curiosity, has the artist stated that? Even in five card draw, I would stay in, keeping the suited connectors and switching out the other three. And there are other variations of poker in which I believe this hand would not be a total loss. No need to yell.

well, next time a casino deals you five cards in texas hold 'em, let us now.

as for draw, please invite me to your next game. If you stay in with soooooted connectors, i'm sure it will be a fun evening for me!

brizz

LadyChic wrote:I have the audacity to mock the intelligence of those who cant read and comprehend that I did not submit that piece of junk. I only commented that Snarky was a fascist. What part of that comment escaped you?

You must be president of the sub 75 club. *giggles* tee-hees!

so which poster is this a doppleganger for? you are definitely a charmer. You must have been tops in your class in how to be a Dark Helmet college.

AdderXYU

bfassburg wrote:What is a ghostnic? is that like an agnostic that died but remained on earth in spiritual form?

A ghostnic would be a handle (or nickname, the "nic" part, so to speak) which appears out of nowhere to berate and belittle and doesn't try to add or participate to a forum, just stir up trouble. Generally, these are made by people who are already members of the forum who feel they would have something to lose if they tried to stir up the same trouble with their more popular handle. Their lack of balls is translated into an identity where they can flit around and cause trouble without anyone being any the wiser, like a ghost. On woot, they're even easier to spot, because they will usually have blank squares, sometimes going out on a limb to buy one woot just to diminish speculation. Usually they will lash out at specific forum members unprovoked, or else defend specific posters every time, regardless of who attacks them or how menial the attack is.

To put it simply, they are trolls with roots. An average troll will get bored sooner or later... a ghostnic will exist until whatever goal they think they need to accomplish is done, because it's really just someone already in the forum. You may call it paranoid, but they spring up on boards where NOTHING is at stake. I think if woot mods did just a little digging, they'd find some very interesting connections.

Beefcoat

1) I love your design and I love that it is a positive message even in a derby named "Quitter"
2) Kls, you are like Obiwan Kenobe to my Luke Sky Walker. And I fully realize how nerdy of a statement that is! Thanks again for your help.

klswoot

Beefcoat wrote:1) I love your design and I love that it is a positive message even in a derby named "Quitter"
2) Kls, you are like Obiwan Kenobe to my Luke Sky Walker. And I fully realize how nerdy of a statement that is! Thanks again for your help.

Awww! Beefcoat. Thank you! I will gladly be your Obiwan! I was happy to help where I could. Not a problem! Best of luck with your entry during this last few hours. I'm rooting for you!

dekonstruct

Aberrantic wrote:Hmm, I suppose it is the simplicity that kills it for me... An Earth, a mouse, an 'x.' It's a bumper sticker image, not art. I guess, if i may make an analogy of sorts, it's not art to me the way AlvinPing's dream shirt was art to me. Although he took clipart pictures, he modified and creatively overlapped them in a way that made them different from the stock images, whereas this, if you did make any changes, I'm afraid I can't see them. Like I said, I do think this is a clever idea, and the idea works, but the execution does not work for me as a shirt. I hope that wasn't too confused an explanation

So if I'm understanding you correctly, you wish there were more "frills", more design elements. Basically, you're not into minimalism, that's fine to each his own. But realize that the entirety of the shirt was thought out. All of it was "changed" as you describe it (I would rather call it "created") There were three different versions that had to die for me to arrive at this, and it was my belief that anything "extra" added to this shirt, actually detracted from this shirt.

My neo-baroque, rococo phase ended when I left college, not so say AlvinPing's shirt wasn't good in it's own way, but the message got lost in the details for me. We can both be good artists sitting on opposite sides of the spectrum and still chat at the pub. It's just pictures after all right?

I also believe that a bumper sticker has it's place as a piece of art. Do not tell me what "art" is, tell me what you like about "art". Lumping things into the "art" "not art" piles like that is elitism, the very enemy of creativity.

Aberrantic

dekonstruct wrote:So if I'm understanding you correctly, you wish there were more "frills", more design elements. Basically, you're not into minimalism, that's fine to each his own. But realize that the entirety of the shirt was thought out. All of it was "changed" as you describe it (I would rather call it "created") There were three different versions that had to die for me to arrive at this, and it was my belief that anything "extra" added to this shirt, actually detracted from this shirt.

My neo-baroque, rococo phase ended when I left college, not so say AlvinPing's shirt wasn't good in it's own way, but the message got lost in the details for me. We can both be good artists sitting on opposite sides of the spectrum and still chat at the pub. It's just pictures after all right?

I also believe that a bumper sticker has it's place as a piece of art. Do not tell me what "art" is, tell me what you like about "art". Lumping things into the "art" "not art" piles like that is elitism, the very enemy of creativity.

I guess I am saying that more "frills," as you say, would be better, although I'm not sure if I would like that any more. I guess it just comes down to personal opinion, and mine is that, while, clever, this is bare, simplified, and artless. But that's just me, and clearly there are plenty who disagree. I'm ok with that.
I believe that is the greater scope, lumping things into "art" "not art" piles does inhibit creativity, but individually, it can actually be very helpful in dismissing avenues that the artist feels are uninspiring. For my art, one of those avenues was technology. Other people have made extraordinary pieces using images of technology, but within my own work and what I prefer, it is simple for me to dismiss designs like that immediately, as it holds no interest or possibility of exploration for me. But again, that is a personal choice. One man's art is another man's trash, and vice versa.
When I saw "bumper sticker" I mean that the idea is somewhat shallow, a clever quip that goes no deeper than the surface. To me, true art is multi-faceted, with subtle overtones that speak of greater meaning. That is not to say that other things cannot be art, just that they don't seem great to me. Damn, there goes that personal opinion again. Of course, this is a shirt, not an art contest, so I suppose this whole discussion is somewhat invalid anyways. Hey, good luck.

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