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Re: Personality test

Ok, so this forum seems to have a lot more Introverts than Extroverts.

However I'm a bit suspicious about that. In some cases because I've seen the user for a while around here and they seem like an extrovert to me. But even for those of you I don't know at all, just having posted in this thread means you first had to go out of your way to join and log onto a social forum and then you had to spend some time and effort to share information about yourself.

That's a rather extroverty thing to do. Introverted behavior would be more along the lines of coming, getting some recommendations, and then leaving.

I'm suspicious that this version of the test (and actually most personality tests in general) confuse introversion and shyness or difficulty in social situations, which are different things entirely. I think that's why I used to get classified as an introvert.

Consider how you are around your best friends or when you're online chatting or posting or whatever you do with other people. If you find those social interactions exhausting and before long you've had enough and want to go on a walk alone or read a book, you're probably a genuine introvert. However if you seek out those situations, than you might actually be an extrovert.

Re: Personality test

INTP

You have distinctive preference of Introversion over Extraversion (67%)
You have slight preference of Intuition over Sensing (12%)
You have marginal or no preference of Thinking over Feeling (1%)
You have slight preference of Perceiving over Judging (6%)

Re: Personality test

@sunnyside I'm with you on this pal, there were a few questions i winced at the phrasing of, my pet hates being forced diametrics in a world made of degrees.
I accept the act of being this open about ones test might appear extroverted, however, the "hide and speak" nature of the internet may act as a cushoining rationalisation to us, maybe the lack of eye contact involved, the knowledge that the posters may NEVER meet ANYONE EVER from this site and NEVER be accountable in the "real world" for any thing here. its an accepted axiom that internet bbs and chat rooms and communities and such are an excellent medium for personality experimentation. maybe this is how we work up to having people skills in meatspace.

or maybe its all just Carl Jung missing out on the point somewhere. but speaking as a human (and therefore a contradictory and egocentric beast on the whole, because introversion and extraversion are both egocentric states), i am flawed, and my mask that i wear in public is not necesarily the one i wear when i take a personality test on the internet anonymously. that said i only feel familiar with part of the results, and as already stated had question over the validity of some of the questions. for example "You value feeling over thinking : yes/no" ro me is not a yes/no question the way its phrased. does it imply that if i DONT value feeling over thinking that i therfore value the opposite? or that i value neither?

Needs revision, but it does hit some nails on the head. but then a stopped watch tells the right time twice a day eh?

Re: Personality test

Originally Posted by sunnyside

I'm suspicious that this version of the test (and actually most personality tests in general) confuse introversion and shyness or difficulty in social situations, which are different things entirely. I think that's why I used to get classified as an introvert.

It´s about thinking processes. Introvert/extrovert thinking is different from actually being an introvert/extrovert in social situations.

Re: Personality test

It´s about thinking processes. Introvert/extrovert thinking is different from actually being an introvert/extrovert in social situations.

Well, what does introversion mean to you?

In the Myers-Briggs context it does sort of blend a number of things together, especially in that there are things typically correlated with extroversion and introversion, and practical personality tests tend to throw those in when explaining the two.

Still, consider the questions on the test that seem to directly relate to that axis.

You frequently and easily express your feelings and emotions
You spend your leisure time actively socializing with a group of people, attending parties, shopping, etc
You often prefer to read a book than go to a party
You enjoy having a wide circle of acquaintances
After prolonged socializing you feel you need to get away and be alone
You are a person somewhat reserved and distant in communication
You find it difficult to speak loudly
The more people with whom you speak, the better you feel
You feel at ease in a crowd

Consider the same questions except with "on a forum" tacked onto the end of them. Do your answers change?

Originally Posted by Roddish

I'm with you on this pal, there were a few questions i winced at the phrasing of, my pet hates being forced diametrics in a world made of degrees.
I accept the act of being this open about ones test might appear extroverted, however, the "hide and speak" nature of the internet may act as a cushoining rationalisation to us, maybe the lack of eye contact involved, the knowledge that the posters may NEVER meet ANYONE EVER from this site and NEVER be accountable in the "real world" for any thing here. its an accepted axiom that internet bbs and chat rooms and communities and such are an excellent medium for personality experimentation. maybe this is how we work up to having people skills in meatspace.

On better such tests they often give you the option to rate yourself on a scale as opposed to yes/no.

That said, your message carries of flavor of extroversion behind a mask, but being held back by awkwardness and fear. Both of those two things can be very real. There are a lot of people that just have a problem with eye contact, and if you are not sufficiently well equipped for the interaction there can be negative outcomes for the fear can be wise.

Still, I'd consider that different than whether one is really an extrovert or not.

Re: Personality test

Originally Posted by sunnyside

Well, what does introversion mean to you?
That said, your message carries of flavor of extroversion behind a mask, but being held back by awkwardness and fear.

Maybe, is it not also possible that it carries the flavour of introversion behind an extroversion mask? or even that it might simply be "as is", meaning simply what it states?
such subjecture is misleading, have you taken into account your own prejudices? your own paradigm? for instance, meaning is easily projected, especially online. we all do it.

to be quite honest, i have a massive problem with the whole duality of it. introvert/extrovert. it just doesnt add up to me, i feel, and witness in others the ambiguity of it, as I'm sure you do too. its just not so simple as to declare "Person A is an introvert and therefore has no otherwise percieved extroverted qualities", it's a logical fallacy.

Re: Personality test

Originally Posted by Roddish

Maybe, is it not also possible that it carries the flavour of introversion behind an extroversion mask? or even that it might simply be "as is", meaning simply what it states?
such subjecture is misleading, have you taken into account your own prejudices? your own paradigm? for instance, meaning is easily projected, especially online. we all do it.

To be clear I'm probing to see if maybe some of the people that got labeled as introverts are more like me in that they're actually extroverts that for some reason don't feel comfortable acting in a stereotypically extroverted manner in person.

to be quite honest, i have a massive problem with the whole duality of it. introvert/extrovert. it just doesnt add up to me, i feel, and witness in others the ambiguity of it, as I'm sure you do too. its just not so simple as to declare "Person A is an introvert and therefore has no otherwise percieved extroverted qualities", it's a logical fallacy.

Even the simple test in this thread has the percentages as opposed to only have the either/or outcome. I've also seen the term "ambivert" used to describe people in the middle of the introversion/extroversion spectrum.

And of course if you zoom in on a person close enough they may be vary extroverted in some ways but not others, though I think they do tend to go together especially in terms of preferences.

Re: Personality test

@sunnyside , I tend to agree with you. I consider myself an extrovert for the most part. I'm far from shy and find it easy to talk to and get along with ppl. However, I only enjoy socializing for short periods of time. I really love to be alone and value my space. That's probably where 'introvert' comes from :-)

Re: Personality test

It's quite strange @sunnyside because when it comes to being on the internet I'll act more extroverted, but if you were to meet me offline, I'm the opposite.
Sometimes, I wish I could be more like I am on here with people irl.

Re: Personality test

Originally Posted by sunnyside

Ok, so this forum seems to have a lot more Introverts than Extroverts.

However I'm a bit suspicious about that. In some cases because I've seen the user for a while around here and they seem like an extrovert to me. But even for those of you I don't know at all, just having posted in this thread means you first had to go out of your way to join and log onto a social forum and then you had to spend some time and effort to share information about yourself.

That's a rather extroverty thing to do. Introverted behavior would be more along the lines of coming, getting some recommendations, and then leaving.

I'm suspicious that this version of the test (and actually most personality tests in general) confuse introversion and shyness or difficulty in social situations, which are different things entirely. I think that's why I used to get classified as an introvert.

Consider how you are around your best friends or when you're online chatting or posting or whatever you do with other people. If you find those social interactions exhausting and before long you've had enough and want to go on a walk alone or read a book, you're probably a genuine introvert. However if you seek out those situations, than you might actually be an extrovert.

Perhaps a tragic one, but an extrovert.

Thoughts?

Just because the test stated I was Introverted didn't mean I was 100% introverted. I believe however, you have to look at the facts about how you feel in certain situations, I can BE whoever you want me to be, I could go and converse with a whole group people for example - with no changes in confidence, and would I be happy about that? Hell no. It would make me mentally exhausted and irritated, i'd want to run the f*ck out of there. I tend to recharge at home alone or with 1 or 2 people.. hence introverted..
Yes the test might not be the greatest thing out there to diagnose ones personality, but it's only a little fun in the end. However, even though the test classified me as introvert, not anywhere did it say I was 100% introverted (78% for me, to be precise), so I think you're wrong in saying that the test can confuse introversion and shyness or difficulty in social situations.

Just so you know, on the question "You often prefer to read a book than go to a party" I clicked the party option (even though I do love to read a good book ) It still doesn't mean that i'm all of a sudden - extraverted, this test has stated that i'm 22% extraverted, Personally I would have thought 40%, but okay, Who really knows, as of now in the present, i'm akin to saying 22%. Anyway, I know who I am and i'm for sure more introverted than extraverted.

Re: Personality test

Originally Posted by sunnyside

Ok, so this forum seems to have a lot more Introverts than Extroverts.

However I'm a bit suspicious about that. In some cases because I've seen the user for a while around here and they seem like an extrovert to me. But even for those of you I don't know at all, just having posted in this thread means you first had to go out of your way to join and log onto a social forum and then you had to spend some time and effort to share information about yourself.

That's a rather extroverty thing to do. Introverted behavior would be more along the lines of coming, getting some recommendations, and then leaving.

I'm suspicious that this version of the test (and actually most personality tests in general) confuse introversion and shyness or difficulty in social situations, which are different things entirely. I think that's why I used to get classified as an introvert.

Consider how you are around your best friends or when you're online chatting or posting or whatever you do with other people. If you find those social interactions exhausting and before long you've had enough and want to go on a walk alone or read a book, you're probably a genuine introvert. However if you seek out those situations, than you might actually be an extrovert.

Perhaps a tragic one, but an extrovert.

Thoughts?

Most people, introvert and extrovert alike, want social interaction, only introverts don't want too much of it, and need to get some alone time to recover their strength from it. I mean really, a typical forum session is fairly short (like half an hour at most) and not very socially intense. You can't really compare typing up a reply to a thread or two with going to a party and mingling for five hours straight.

An introvert couldn't ask for a better format. Forums are really very introvert-friendly, as all social interaction is on the poster's own terms.

Re: Personality test

Originally Posted by sunnyside

Ok, so this forum seems to have a lot more Introverts than Extroverts.

However I'm a bit suspicious about that. In some cases because I've seen the user for a while around here and they seem like an extrovert to me. But even for those of you I don't know at all, just having posted in this thread means you first had to go out of your way to join and log onto a social forum and then you had to spend some time and effort to share information about yourself.

That's a rather extroverty thing to do. Introverted behavior would be more along the lines of coming, getting some recommendations, and then leaving.

I'm suspicious that this version of the test (and actually most personality tests in general) confuse introversion and shyness or difficulty in social situations, which are different things entirely. I think that's why I used to get classified as an introvert.

Consider how you are around your best friends or when you're online chatting or posting or whatever you do with other people. If you find those social interactions exhausting and before long you've had enough and want to go on a walk alone or read a book, you're probably a genuine introvert. However if you seek out those situations, than you might actually be an extrovert.

I actually act slightly different online than I do in person. Online I tend to talk more and warm up to people faster. Having only met you recently, if we were to have this conversation face to face I, most likely, would only nod my head and make an unopinionated comment. Even online there are very few times I actually post a comment, I tend to keep my thoughts to myself unless I feel they're of any importance or interest, or if I'm directly asked about something. More or less, I prefer to observe rather than get involved in a lot of things. I also tend to prefer being alone rather than with other people and have to be in a good mood to want to be around other people.

I do think you're right, in some cases. Shy/socially awkward people wouldn't likely interact with people in many of the scenarios they used. That's what I love about the Internet, it allows shy people *ahem*me*ahem* to get out and meet people they otherwise never would have!!

so we dont confuse the issue any further, when Carl Jung talks about Extraversion he is talking about "a person concerned more with external reality than inner feelings ", and so someone introverted isnt necessarily socially shy, merely less concerned with social situations than they are with private thought

Re: Personality test

The MBTI profile is merely a test of your operating preferences.
So just because you're have an introversion preference does not necessarily mean you are anti-social or prefer to avoid people, etc.
It's a common misconception. But think of it, it would be ridiculous for a T profile to not be able to feel (short of being a psychopath), or an F profile being by necessity a dumb person.

In order of the letters:

Which world you get your energy from (inner/outer)
How you perceive information (intuition/sensory)
How you make decisions (thinking/feeling)
How you interact with the world (judging/perceiving)

Re: Personality test

INTJ

Introvert(22%) iNtuitive(56%) Thinking(38%) Judging(11%)
You have slight preference of Introversion over Extraversion (22%)
You have moderate preference of Intuition over Sensing (56%)
You have moderate preference of Thinking over Feeling (38%)
You have slight preference of Judging over Perceiving (11%)

Re: Personality test

Originally Posted by sunnyside

Ok, so this forum seems to have a lot more Introverts than Extroverts.

However I'm a bit suspicious about that. In some cases because I've seen the user for a while around here and they seem like an extrovert to me. But even for those of you I don't know at all, just having posted in this thread means you first had to go out of your way to join and log onto a social forum and then you had to spend some time and effort to share information about yourself.

That's a rather extroverty thing to do. Introverted behavior would be more along the lines of coming, getting some recommendations, and then leaving.

I'm suspicious that this version of the test (and actually most personality tests in general) confuse introversion and shyness or difficulty in social situations, which are different things entirely. I think that's why I used to get classified as an introvert.

Consider how you are around your best friends or when you're online chatting or posting or whatever you do with other people. If you find those social interactions exhausting and before long you've had enough and want to go on a walk alone or read a book, you're probably a genuine introvert. However if you seek out those situations, than you might actually be an extrovert.

Perhaps a tragic one, but an extrovert.

Thoughts?

There is a thing called an ambivert, I believe I fall under that category because for one, I have my times that I want to socialize and then I have my times that I don't necessarily want to socialize. In most cases, I actually feel more of an ISFP but I cannot display it over the Internet... maybe I can? Not sure. 38\ But as far as I know, I don't exactly like being with people too much, and if I do, I will do that on certain occasions, and I also want a certain amount of people with me. I believe that I place myself more of an ambivert which is not a bad thing. But even having an ambivert behaviour, I will still consider myself an ISFP since it really describes me how I am as a person.

Re: Personality test

Originally Posted by sunnyside

Ok, so this forum seems to have a lot more Introverts than Extroverts.

However I'm a bit suspicious about that. In some cases because I've seen the user for a while around here and they seem like an extrovert to me. But even for those of you I don't know at all, just having posted in this thread means you first had to go out of your way to join and log onto a social forum and then you had to spend some time and effort to share information about yourself.

That's a rather extroverty thing to do. Introverted behavior would be more along the lines of coming, getting some recommendations, and then leaving.

I'm suspicious that this version of the test (and actually most personality tests in general) confuse introversion and shyness or difficulty in social situations, which are different things entirely. I think that's why I used to get classified as an introvert.

Consider how you are around your best friends or when you're online chatting or posting or whatever you do with other people. If you find those social interactions exhausting and before long you've had enough and want to go on a walk alone or read a book, you're probably a genuine introvert. However if you seek out those situations, than you might actually be an extrovert.

As a scientist, INTJ totally hits the spot. I am definitely a system builder and I spend long hours in the office by myself devising solutions to problems that haven't been solved yet.

As a scientist, I give lots of talks/presentations and interact with lots of people at work and online and so I am definitely not socially inept, shy, or what have you. I am a genuine introvert, again, spending long hours by myself in an office or at home. I especially dislike crowds and I prefer to party with a handful of friends at a barbecue. I really prefer to do my own little projects than to go out and meet people. Sounds like an introvert to me.

I have taken this test dozens of times over the years and I consistently score INTJ. I would think I would score INTP sometimes, but I never score INTP

Re: Personality Testo

Usually get INTP or INTJ.

It should be noted that those tests generally measure preference, not really skill. There are skills associated with each side of the dichotomies, and you probably should work on them, both the ones you like and the ones you don't like, because they're all important.

And hey OP, image macros you see on the internet are one of the worst ways to understand anything, much less yourself. They're just pointless douchebaggery anyway. At least I'd read some articles that take the matter seriously.

Re: Personality test

For me, just because some people post things very often in the net doesn't mean that they are extroverts in real life. Some people have different persona on the net and in real life. As for the test, most people would use their real life persona's thoughts as opposed to online ones. I'm not saying they are fakes. I'm just saying that it's more comfortable to interact in the net than face to face with people, so that's probably why we have more introverts than extroverts on the net.

It's a good thing though that the test has %, because it means that even if you get introvert personality, it only means you tend to be more of an introvert than an extrovert. It doesn't mean that you're completely introvert though. So I don't see a bias in that.

Re: Personality test

Thanks, i wasnt aware of the Keirsey Temperament Sorter. thats a nice easy to understand laymans psychoanalytic. i like. for those of you who arent "Healer" role, here is how keirsey and jung correlate: