Jerkboy Charisma Chat Game

What’s the quickest way to turn on a girl with the least amount of effort? Ellipsis game? Yeah, that’s pretty low effort. But this example of what I like to call JERKBOY CHARISMA chat game may trump ellipsis game in the race to the brusque bottom. A reader forwards his chivalrous courtship to a Juliet he hasn’t seen in a month:

This is what it looks like when a woman is chasing a man, and the man is reclining in the chased after position. This is how you want it to look for maximum romantic success. If it looks like this, you’re doing it right.

“But she said she hates him!?!,” wail the women and the men impersonating women.

If you’ve learned anything from reading CH, you know that a woman’s hate is not the opposite of a woman’s love. Indifference is the opposite of love. When a woman says she “hates” you, what she’s really saying is she hates that she loves what you do to her. Hate is just a conveniently accessible word to describe the rush of pleasing emotions, drama-larding cognitive dissonance and twatly ensconced tingles that a woman feels when a man expertly teases her and signals his total disregard for her approval.

I expect a deluge of men running wordless emoji game on women now. Why blab your betatude when a funny picture sends a thousand alpha waves?

I lmao at the Claypool incident. Two rednecks in a knife and gun fight over a parking place, surely to compete to see who gets to be the one to bring his fat wife that blender for $3 off she so desperately wants. As if she’d actually use the fucking thing.

Rural Virginia. This is where I live. Most of the pussy worth pulling around here comes from places where a guy can deliver pizzas and make more than I do busting my ass 70 hours a week.

You definitely need tight game around here. It’s a very discouraging place to cut your teeth.

That pic is a little childish and silly, but it’s also funny as hell and right on point. This is a whole other arena for text game- funny cartoons, which handily trump emoticons. I actually have no idea how to access a bank of pics like that on an iPhone- never thought about it before. But this, in theory and practice, has the potential (depending on the image) to be better than the usual CH recommendations in this area, “…”, “gay” (very ineffective), etc. The right pic, in context, will show smarts and humor as well as indifference.

When a woman says she “hates” you, what she’s really saying is she hates that she loves what you do to her.

This is great- a very wise aphorism. Ought to be convered to a CH maxim at some point.

Emoticons aren’t a substitute for imagination. They are an attempt to inject body language and tone back into the one-dimensional communication of text.

Besides, the sheer number of words required to “paint a picture” for her is restricted by the medium itself (and by alpha “aloofness” in general). None of it can work unless and until you establish your presence off the medium so that she can interpret your verbosity/spare speaking correctly.

The bigger problem is their cartoonishness. Absent a proper context, they make you look like a silly 12-year-old girl. That too can be elided, but never without providing the right translation key through establishing a proper, external frame of reference.

Like the texter fellow did above. If a beta orbiter sent her a fat cat photo, the response would have been very different.

I forgot to add a caveat above: I have limited real-world experience texting with women. But my advice can still be valuable.

I know that I am caricatured as an ‘old geezer’ religious fraud spewing obsolete and antiquated advice that is grounded in the Bible but not in reality, but I assure you – I have at least some experience in texting the members of the fairer sex.

I have my own rotation of a few nuns that respond very well to both my brevity and religious knowledge. I know that nothing sexual will ever materialize there – and I am at harmony with it – but that’s exactly the point: they are my own orbiters, in effect, and I get a chance to try out some of my burgeoning game (that was severely lacking before I stumbled upon this blog) without fear of rejection. And it’s quite cathartic to release some of my pent-up energy that otherwise would have no such medium for release.

I am still trying to ascertain which ones amongst them are more willing to break the rules and send me some more unconventional photos. (I am currently employing CH’s use of body language during my regular church attending to see which ones are more receptive to me and to, perhaps, a more intimate sort of exchange).

In any case, I invite all of you to do the same. Befriend any asexual orbiters – not just nuns, but any such people – and you are able to practice your text game while being naturally aloof, concise, and without fear of rejection.

Jesus loves me! This I know,
As He loved so long ago,
Taking children on His knee,
Saying, “Let them come to Me.”
Jesus loves me still today,
Walking with me on my way,
Wanting as a friend to give
Light and love to all who live.
Jesus loves me! He who died
Heaven’s gate to open wide;
He will wash away my sin,
Let His little child come in.
Jesus loves me! He will stay
Close beside me all the way;
Thou hast bled and died for me,
I will henceforth live for Thee.

this song is guaranteed to give gina tingles to those virgin church girls who are saving themselves for jesus.

HaHaHaHa Ha Ha HaHaHa Ha

oh matt king! where would we be without you to lead us away from the evil one!

The disciples do not know who the betrayer might be. So they speculate with one another: “Who would do this?” Sometimes those allied to Jesus are near him for a time before they reveal that their heart truly lies elsewhere. As John 6:70 puts it, Judas was “a devil” even though for more than three years he looked like Jesus’ devoted follower. Those who know the Son cling to him; those who do not know him depart from him through denial (Col 1:21-23).

Matthew King. Why are you feigning modesty on a day like today. The day has come to enjoy the fruits of your labour. All that hard work and motivating is finally paying off. Today is the day you have achieved SUPER ALPHA MALE KINGDOMSHIP. tell us what do you have to day to our fans.

Classy broad he’s chasing there. It makes me sad. Everyone these days is so doped up on shit it’s crazy. Whether the substances are legal or illegal makes no difference.

If you’re a guy who can’t pull sober then you’re doing it wrong. I’ve never been drunk or high, and all my learning and practice has been done sober.

And for the girl, it just validates not putting a girl on a pedestal yet again. She’s probably pretty hot, yet she throws her time, money, and state of mind away on drugs. Always assume the worst of people, that way they can’t let you down.

To his credit, that San Francisco Jew, Michael “Savage” Wiener, has been hammering home this point for years – that normal folks just can’t understand true leftoids [“Red Diaper Doper Babies”, as Savage calls them] because normal folks aren’t narked-up out of their minds on every possible pharmacological substance known to mankind.

Until you’re completely high on SSRIs and benzodiazipines and Ambien and coke and meth and peyote and rubbing alcohol, it’s very difficult to “think” like a Leftist.

Get off my lawn! You sound like a drag, honestly. “Never been drunk or high” – you a Muslim?

Doing drugs on weekends does not make someone “lose their state of mind” except in the moment they are on it. Now, this chick doesn’t sound like she’s worth all that much but that’s because she’s suing drugs as a selling point for the guy she wants to impress. Desperate. The drugs themselves aren’t the problem

Yeah, that was my take too. While I -do- agree that you need to be able to spit game w/o the crutch of alcohol, et. al. a little indulgence is not a bad thing. Balance, is vital, just like all areas of life.

Under the rules within the kingdom of Matthew King Fandom it is against HIS philosophy to masquerade as a troll under different pseudonyms such as Patrice, Maurice, Jay in DC etc. and go around telling people to stop ad hominem attacks while committing them at the same time against people with disabilities. it is written in the bible that the meek shall inherit the earth. it is harder for a rich man to pass through the eye of a needle than to enter the kingdom of heaven. ask yourself what. what. what would jesus do if he were in this situation. insulting intellectually gifted/superior people with quirks is wrong and a fatally moral sin. Jesus would not do this. Matt King would not do this. Thankfully I am a christian and I am very forgiving and Matt King has lead by setting a stellar example for all of us fans to follow. I hope one day you JAY IN DC can also come to know christ and understand that you can cast all of your burdens and anger onto Christ. It is only through Christ and MATT KING who can show us the way in this dark place called earth and fight sin caused by satan and his minions. Come along now Jay In DC. close your eyes. fold your hands. bow your head with mine.

Jay In DC are you ready to accept Jesus into your heart as your personal savior? Do you admit you are a sinner? Are you ready to accept the free gift of eternal life that Christ and Matt King are ready to give to you?

In the name of the father, the son, and the holy ghost, I relinquish you of your deep seeded rage against God’s younger, superiorly intellectual, best looking, best dressed, and most dominant chosen leaders.

pearls before swine like a sashimi artist craving some snapper.

Jay in DC rejoice. we are now together with Matt King and Jesus inside the body of Christ.

Dude, I don’t need that shit in order to “live a little,” and it’s bullshit to think you do.

The reality is that people who engage in recreational drug use are almost always using the high as some sort of crutch for something else that’s lacking in their lives, whether it’s daddy issues, absent parents, lack of confidence sober, or whatever other issues.

Drugs are something I have zero fucking tolerance for. If everyone got off all the shit they were on, again, be it legal or illegal, we’d all be better off because of it.

How can you be a productive member of society if you “need” twelve different kinds of anti-depressants to function? And you can’t have a good time without getting wasted or getting high? Grow up.

I agree about living a little and not having a stick up your ass, but I’ve seen a lot of good guys go swirling down the toilet over coke. Moderation seems hard to apply, and some slopes are too slippery to fuck with. I’ll just get drunk, thanks.

The pattern with coke seems to be:

Phase 1: Do a little blow, party down, have fun.

Phase 2: Want more blow than you can afford, invent ways to embezzle money.

Phase 3: Get busted for embezzling $50,000 or more and go up the river.

I wonder what it says about my friends that I’ve seen this pattern unfold three separate times.

I tend to notice that women in general, not just girlfriends, value you more if you don’t talk too much to them. Not in the sense of engaging them in discussion, but being overly verbose or explanatory seems to make them lose respect for you. Not sure why.

Looking through YaReally’s archive, I realized that being comfortably sexual in my texts was a clear piece of my game I had let slide. When I was younger, this wasn’t the case. I was shameless, and there a bunch of times I would actually get girls to say, come over, I’m ready to bang. (Sidenote: This is unlikely to work on an 8 or a above).

Over the past week I decided to made my texts a lot more sexual, with the goal of resuscitating pick ups whose action had died off or gone sideways. Overall, I think the results of sexualizing my text messages were pretty positive, but I definitely could work on what YaReally calls “calibration”.

Here’s the first vignette…

Girl 1
Beautiful 8. Early 20s. Works in fashion. Street pick up. Heavy hook up months ago. Took *me* into a bathroom and declared “I can’t do this”, I ejected out of the situation – something just didn’t feel right. Sideways texting once a month or so. Fully aware I’m seeing someone else. She has a serious boyfriend.

Text Snapshot:

Me: Don’t tell that boy you were with that you’re infatuated with me. You’ll break his heart.
Her: I’m hanging out near your neighborhood today. Come by and see me at (X place).
Me: I’m not groping you in public
Her: What is up with you today? I’ll pretend like this last text was never sent or was a joke because otherwise it would be disrespectful especially given the situation where there has really been no situation.

(Her shaming tone caught me off-guard. I wasn’t really sure what to do. Had three options: not responding, tell her I was just a joking, or let her know that I’m comfortable being insolent. I decided to own my words and not back down.)

Me: Disrespect is more my forte than comedy

(Her response flipped by wig.)

her: Get a laugh out of it?

an hour later…

her: Will you still be in the area around for drink at 10? I’m with my girl friends and want to see you.

I tell her no, and give her another option to meet late night. The logistics don’t work. There are no other options on the table. She gets a bit miffed, reminds me (and herself) she has a boyfriend and declares that my tone isn’t funny.

Girl 2
Pretty 8. Bar pick up. Think she may be the ex of an entertainer or athlete. Tells me her romantic life is “complicated”. Sends me bikini pics any way. Body is legit. Not officially aware aware I’m seeing someone else, but we haven’t met since I got her number. Sends me bikini pics on request. Invited her out then canceled on her. We had a decently strong text vibe going, but not sexual before recent exchange. Could sense connection dying.

Text Snapshot:

Me: what are you do Fri after Thanksgiving?
Her: hi sorry crazy at work the Friday after?
Me: as long as you use the extra two weeks to lingerie shop
Her: did you send that to the wrong person lol?
Me: nah
Her: what the extra week about?
Me: I can check my sched to see if I can take advantage of you if you’re in a rush
Her: i’ll get back to you on that
Me: how sweet of you. Thinking red would be the hottest lingerie color on you.
Her: red is fitting

View that as my greenlight to solidify plans. We do. Tells me she’s bringing her friend. I tell her one on one is better, and a threeway so soon is moving too fast for me. Sexualizing text communication seems to have revived things.

Girl 3
Pretty 7.5. Street pick up. Part time ring girl five years ago, lots of beta orbiters. Really fit, but, in early 30s. Would be a solid 8 if she were taller and more elegant rather than aerobics instructor build. Light hook-up months ago. Text have always gone sideways. Super flaky, solipsistic type. Fully aware I’m seeing someone.

Text Snapshot:

Me: Let’s meet up soon.
Her: Will that girl you’re seeing let you?
Me: Stop pushing your way into a manage
Her: You’re way too much
Me: I prefer to call it well endowed, but if you insist
Her: That’s great, but why you feel I need to know is beyond me
Me: So you can improve the authenticity of your fantasies about me
Her: You’re crazy. Seriously.
Me: We should hang out soon. I promise not to take advantage of you in public.
Her; Cool, when is good for you?

Girl 4
Sexy 7.5. Bar pick up. Ex-entertainment personality. Early 30s. Took her out, second date bang some years back, cut her off immediately thereafter. Annoying attention whore, hate spending time with her. Reaches out to me on a monthly basis, “want drinks tonight?”. Answer is always no. Agreed to meet up with her two months ago when she was engaged. Finger-banged her, drops engagement a week later. She confesses she was really into me after I banged. I’ve never had any romantic feelings for her. Knows I’m seeing someone.

Text Snapshot:

Her: I’m going to be at X late night, want to come out?

(typical reach out, can count on one a month.)

Me: Can’t now. Sex gossiping.
Her: Ok, wanna meet for drinks at 9 at Y?
Me: Can’t. X is a great place to get into late night trouble though.
Her: I’m not looking for trouble. I’m kind of seeing someone someone and he’s amazing.
Me: It’s not fair of you to fantasize about me when you’re sleeping with him.
Her: Ha ha ha.
Her: I thought we were cool and could friends.
Me: we can’t. you’re attracted to me.
Her: ok, I’m not, but ok!

(I thought that was particularly funny after she’s reached out to me intermittently over four years.)

curious how would you play it during and after. btw, the tone is channeling yareally. may seem try-hard, but seems to be warming cold leads better than sideways discussion. have to give him credit on his verbose style.

Hey man, try not to pay much attention to commenters such as Goy. They usually will come up with 1-3 word “advice” but don’t have anything else to offer. Anyone who has some semblance of social skills could spot that your interaction was try hard…Goy didn’t bring much to the table there.

It’s similar to the “stop being such a beta”, “spin more plates”, or “you got oneitis” style of advice that gets thrown around from time to time. Okay, Goy may have a point but that’s about as useful as telling a pilot in freefall to just get the plane ascending again.

Your post was hella beneficial for the readership and kudos for taking the time to show your trial and errors here.

One thing to keep in mind. It’s all good to push the boundaries and see how far you can sexualize the conversations as that’s where there is a lot of room to grow. The only way to actually get better at sexualizing texting is to actually…(pause for effect)….sexualize texts and see what works and what doesn’t.

Where you may stumble though are the times where the sale has already been made and your only goal need be to not fuck it up and blow up the account. Some girls may meet up knowing it’s on but you can cause their ASD to go up in a bad way if you sexualize needlessly. Less is more; path of least resistance and that allshit.

You may meet a girl off the street during daygame with a direct opener, come across with solid intent and flirt shamelessly and then get the number with the solid date night to meet up. What’s going to get you closer to your goal? Texting something that only reinforces that you are trying to fuck her (even though you already conveyed this well in the initial pickup) or just doing the bare minimum in order to get her out to meet up so you can inch closer towards banging her.

Just something to keep in mind. If you’re in it just to practice and get better and don’t care about the leads that may go stale, then never mind.

Though, you may sacrifice some lays in the process until you realize that some of those girls were prime for the plucking until your sexualized texts took the interaction further away from your goal.

All dead leads that had never had any sex texts. girls definitely got more responsive, regardless of the “quality” of text…if it seemed alpha or try hard, etc..3 girls interested in meeting up, 2 scared off

not try hard, she was up to something else. you rejected her, sometimes bitches will leave out an olive branch just to try to get back at you. you were just messing around and experimenting so its not a big deal. the key to situations like that is to play the victim to get the lay. the first principle is to not invest anything into meeting or the bang, make her do all the legwork. so what you could do is say ok, sounds good, 9 at y. then when 830 comes along txt her, working late, just got off. (if you know where she lives) say, can i just swing by ur place its on the way. or if she knows where u live just say, if you want you can swing by. if she wont isolate then you know she isnt down. make her pick up the booze, get drunk or pretend to, more then likely she will put out.

Word up. I wot act judgmental when it comes to drugs but there is something to be said about a girl that does blow.

I have a theory that the more often a girl is prone to doing coke, the more likely she will be hypergamous and likely to cheat on you. It’s like the want to get high like that is correlated to a want to cheat on your SO.

I’ve seen a good bit in I lived in Miami and this held true with my bros that went to waspy schools in the northeast, in addition to my few years so far in NYC.

Straight up, if your girl does blow more than once a month or actively seeks it out, treat her like a hoe and be vigilant on her hypergamous ways.

Word up to the girl who got naked in the living room back in undergrad because my boys had the powder.

A girl–particularly White girls–who sample coke and/or routinely sample diverse (I hate that word) cock, has her deficiency rooted in the relationship, or, lack-there-of, with her father and, by extension, the television and all its vapid nonsense; addiction to the second should be understood as an indictment of the first.

Let’s briefly explore the two conditions that must be met for a girl to slide into drug use, sluttery and, further: mudsharkery:

1) The relationship to her father must be damaged, either emotionally, physically, or, both. All pathologies, e.g., dispositional whorishness, miscegenation, flower from a perversion of this crucial father/daughter bond.

Observe: The above condition necessitates the second.

2) The strength of her relationship with the television must be covalent in nature, a bond forged through paternal failure.

The TV teaches lessons her weak father never contradicts: that appearances are more important than reality, that Africans and, to a lesser degree, other non-Whites, are the *dominant genotypes–over time, this myth disables and rewires her attraction mechanisms to such a degree her hypergamy can be satisfied by favor of the other–that feminism is about equal pay, that the White skin she wears is evidence of evil and must be atoned through pathological altruism, the ultimate sacrifice being the surrender of her womb on the alter of diversity.

The resident coal burner, Amy, is a tragic illustration of the above conditions being satisfied. [Amy, if you read this and have a reflexive tingle to respond, don’t. Queef elsewhere. You’ve already outed yourself upon your arrival in the comment section some month ago. Save face and save your “Et Tus” for lesser men. Just sit there in shame and think about what you’ve done.]

Now, I’m not implying females lack agency. What I am implying is that a healthy expression of her agency, in adolescence and beyond, is wholly dependent on her father’s leadership, particularity in her formative years.

*Males are susceptible to this myth, too. In particular those males whose experience with mulattoes and Africans can be quantified by the time he spends watching television.

The resident coal burner, Amy, is a tragic illustration of the above conditions being satisfied. [Amy, if you read this and have a reflexive tingle to respond, don’t. Queef elsewhere. You’ve already outed yourself upon your arrival in the comment section some month ago.
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When and where did Amy say anything about getting black cock?

I understand she pissed you off about something; but calling her a mudshark out of frustration is poor technique and runs the risk of diluting the effectivness of the term.

The five examples I gave earlier were all applications used on girls pulled via one-on-one cold approaches. The examples show how sexualizing your texts/communication is an important component of game.
While not a magic bullet for every case, sexualizing text can be an effective way to move a relationship toward a bang.

The basic thing to understand is, that If a girl is actually attracted to you, then sexualizing your texts makes communication a lot more interesting than ho-hum, “how as your day” texts, or “I’m so charming/smooth/cool” banter that is more like to move the interaction sideways than toward the bedroom.
The implication here, is that the girl already has to like you somewhat for the sexual text to be impactful. If she’s not attracted to you already your texts are just going to be viewed as pervy.

Some things to look for:

Tone:
Be playful, don’t be crude (unless it escalates to that point and she’s asking for you to be crude.). You’ll probably ruin the shot at the lay if you’re too vulgar on the offset.

Responsiveness:
You’re likely to see an uptick in responsiveness, with reply backs often happening a minute after your get into a rhythm of playful sexual texts. If you’re getting no response, consider it a sign and realized that she probably has no sexual attraction to you. Also, don’t hammer away with multiple sexual texts if. It’s pervy and you don’t want to harass the poor girl if she doesn’t like you.

Rebuffing and Qualification:
It’s a good sign if the girl inquisitively responds, playing dumb. Girls are socialized to be coy, so even if she’s attracted to you, expect her to rebuff sexualized texts and ask you to qualify them. “oh really? / you must have the wrong girl / aren’t you in a relationship / etc.” This is often a test to see how shameless you really are, and if you have the confidence to follow through on your declaration. She may repeat this stance repeatedly to test if you are actually standing by your words or if you are going to wimp out.

Logistics:
After establishing some sexual rhythm, and realizing you’re confident with yourself as a sexual being, she’s likely accept your offer meet up, or even propose a place to meet (see example number one above). A lot of times these plans will be logistical minefields, because the girl wants to bang but doesn’t want to be a labeled a slut, so the logistics she proposes express the emotionally polarity. You can see that pattern played out in two of the emails above. Here’s another example: I remember once telling a girl to meet me at a club and the dress code was no panties. She said no way, I said ok, then she texted me days later asking me to meet up at a bar with her girlfriend. I told her no. Then she got furious and accused me of hating women. She was really pissed because I hadn’t sorted out the logistics for her, which really is your job as a man. You have to be really sensitive with the logistics and present the girl with an alternative option to hers otherwise she’ll squawk at you for screwing everything up and it will be game over.

Also once you’ve solidified plans to meet up, turn the sexuality off to avoid triggering ASD. She can masturbate to your sexting for weeks and love it when there’s no actual plan to meet up, but once it’s established that you’ll be meeting up in person (obviously for sex), that same sexual texting will often trigger her ASD because now shit is “real” and then she flakes because she feels slutty going to meet up with you…so pull back and go asexual friend zone once the meet is set. Then in person greet her sexually (pull her in for a quick light kiss like “god you look good, come here” etc.) and set the tone. You CAN go full sexual right to the end, I’ve done it now and then, but turning it off once the meet is set is a MUCH higher % play.

A lot of sexual shit is about pushing her boundaries slightly out of her comfort zone, doing a little dance there to show that you’re comfortable with it, then backing off to show that you’re not a desperate horn-dog, you can back off because you know you’ll both be across that boundary again later.

Also a big part of it, as you saw, is owning your words and not apologizing for being sexual.

She wakes up to a dozen “good morning!” “hope you have a good day! let me know if you want me to buy you lunch!” txts from orbiter chodes every day. Are any of those txts going to be her top priority to respond to, or is her top priority going to be the one that says “you must be tired, I saw you outside my bedroom window all night. perv.”

Also you don’t have to be directly sexual about HER (tho that helps), but more important is just being sexual in general. Like making sexual jokes, innuendo, talking about sexual topics, VS “I want to bang YOU, specifically” Esp with the hotter girls. Mystery’s advice was “you can’t choose a ten, a ten chooses YOU”, so you demonstrate being comfortable with sex and she chooses you because you’re cool about it. This is the vibe guys like Russell Brand and rockstars have.

“if you say something raw and you own it…is it good to back off texting for a little bit? how do you play things?”

I change the subject to something less raw/sexual. So like:

“oh and just what are we going to DO at your place?”

“well I was going to pin you up against the wall, (insert a big description of a super hot sexual makeout here, I don’t wanna type one out in this post lol)”

“omg u did not just say that”

“or, you know, we could watch a movie on opposite sides of the couch from eachother with a bunch of pillows between us.”

Like push/pull…the pull is the raw sexual thing, then you own it instead of apologizing for it, but you push her away with something inoffensive or changing the subject entirely or the opposite of the sexual thing.

Another example would be something like:

“i’m not that kind of girl” (playfully)

“that’s not what the wall in the men’s room says. (her: OMG!!!!) I should know, I’m the one who wrote it (her: lololol)”

If she responds WELL to the raw stuff, then you keep going with it (slowly, don’t be a horn-dog jumping at it lol, just be a cool sexual guy) or back off a bit but keep it in that general zone from there and build some sexual comfort/rapport.

But ya, in general I like to back off, unless it’s looking like I can escalate to a sexting convo of some sort lol

@Yareally….another pattern I’m getting is: send sexualized text, girl plays along. girl reaches out with logistics plan that sucks (usually always involves friend.) I reject the plans, and now suddenly any sexualized text is “rude”. clearly the banter wasn’t rude before, it sparked her interest to try to make plans with me, no matter how shitty the logistics she proposed were. but now she’s projecting her upset feelings on my banter since I didn’t go for her lame hang-out with friends after. how do you handle this?

I know you’re not asking me but perhaps some of the coldness you experience from the girls after you reject the plans is because in her world, she just put herself out on a limb in a major way and you rebuffed her.

1) Her reaching out to you with easy logistics for the lay…..nahhhhhh….that’s too slutty for her and she isn’t the type of girl to do that even though we all know it’s the inevitable. Nope.

2) Her reaching out with logistics that seam shitty to you but in her eyes, she can say she is not being slutty and that “nothing is going to happen” because “Sarah is there too.” But she is being the “aggressor” here even though it doesn’t seem like it at all. And what do you do? You shut her down!

Now, in the eyes of men you’re just playing the game smart, but to her you just shitted on her after she took a “huge” slutty leap of faith to try to set something up even though the odds were stacked against you. Yeah, of course she is going to act a little cold after that.

Btw, in terms of actionable advice, you’d be better of just politely declining her invitation. No need to hit her with the aloof asshole bravado…then again, in these text exchanges, that kind of bravado is what got them to respond.

So yeah, in the future, politely decline but make it seem like you already have plans or can’t make it because xyz (insert plausible reason here) and I think you optimize your situation.

re, bravado…for a couple of the shut downs, I basically said, “sorry can’t make it but you can think about me pounding you while you wait”…shame freak out ensues “you asshole”…own it…”yes I’m rude.” next day it’s like nothing happened.

“A lot of sexual shit is about pushing her boundaries slightly out of her comfort zone, doing a little dance there to show that you’re comfortable with it, then backing off to show that you’re not a desperate horn-dog, you can back off because you know you’ll both be across that boundary again later.”

I can’t relate to this because I have never wasted time with a girl who needed to lose 15 pounds. Seriously. This garbage does not work on a 9 who weighs 115. For real. Two types of lines of game here. One is for kids who apparently game drug-addicted fatties. I have no doubt this hog is tatted up too.

CH could some related evolutionary blip explain why women hate men so much? And make no mistake they hate us. They tolerate us (until they get unhaaaaaaappy) only because doing so is necessary for their survival. They do not want us around. That’s why getting them is like pulling teeth.

Women don’t hate men. In fact everything in their life is geared towards finding a man who is strong enough to enslave her.
You’re projecting your disdain for the ways of women onto them, assuming that they see the world in the way that you do.

Not correct and their enthusiastic use of no-fault divorce proves it. The traditional religious texts also show it, and they show indeed women must be enslaved under power of law. See Islam and traditional Christianity and FORMER laws governing families, marriage, property and divorce.

This is the kind of comment that makes me go wtf. I’d say the best thing to do is to take a step back. Think about how a man views the world versus the way a woman views the world. Both need one another — or at least they complement one another. But ya, they’re different. So instead of expecting women to adhere to logic, rationality, self-control, etc. etc. look at those traits as something to impart onto her and guide her with. That’s why they dig frame control and dominance. They look for someone else to trust with “that sort of thing.”

Well said Scray.
Alot of guys move from being completely convinced of girls being sweet delicate little flowers to full blown “omg theyre fucking evil” at the first hint of exposure to true female nature.

Fun now. You’ve fucked 260 chix, guessing you meant you’ve fucked 260 girls, which means you chose not to/were unable to form a lasting bond with any of the subset of those 260 who were willing and able to form a mutually supportive relationship.

Oh wait ALL WOMEN ARE HEARTLESS VAMPIRES so not ONE of the 260 had a tolerably solicitous personality. And the problem isn’t you! You’re a man, a logical, honorable man with good taste who would NEVER look at a girl 15 lbs overweight. You’re really special.

I just don’t believe that’s as likely as the hypothesis YOU are some kind of personality disordered freak with zero insight that due to high verbal intelligence you’ve continued to rationalize your PREFERENCE for not relating to ANYONE and staying in your narcissistic reverie. ( demanding perfection all around you. At least perfection in EVERYONE ELSE BUT YOU.)

Maybe the problem is you, not all the wizened princesses and models who now have a clear memory of the psychopaths who couldn’t love them.

I think this is the most cogent and intelligent thing I’ve ever seen you say here Subby. I’m guessing you finally took a day off from spunking all over hapless victims on the A train. And in just that short window of time where you were able to keep some of your mojo intact, your brain re-activated, if only for a brief moment.

Maybe stop wanking for a few days and you might yet become a human being again. There may be hope for you yet…

If you try to guide them, the law and Huffington Post (ALL women see Huff Post as their Bible) tell them you are controlling, jealous and possessive. And our fucked up modern law lets them snap their fingers to put a man in jail. Don’t you get it?

Grim,
I’m going to assume you aren’t trolling.
That being said, I do get what youre saying.
I live in the same world you do. I’m going to even go out on a branch and assume you’re American like I am. The problem is your neediness. It is bleeding out of your post. Go back through the CH archives and read, read, read.
Women aren’t evil, they’re simply ammoral from a male point of view. Her biological imperative is just like yours, to successfully reproduce, but her strategies couldn’t be any more alien to yours. Deal with it, it’s reality.

Men are supposed to possess their lover. Huff Post has taught them the opposite of truth. They snap their fingers and a 3-year lover is immediately a stalker, even if she plasters herself all over the web for strangers from here to Saudi Arabia to rub one out to.

And I am not trolling. I speak truth here. Look dude I can get laid and be charming and even do ONSs too. I’m talking about long term societal issues. Reading Huffington Post and realizing that all modern young women get their marching orders from there is literally enough to make a red pill aware man vomit.

The message of non-committment is coming on rather strong these days. Recently bought my daughter an ipod and was selecting a few outrageously expensive songs to put on it. I’m finding Christian rock the best option as, even though I enjoy the melody of certain songs, the message is not one I want programmed into her head.

If you’re on the redpill it shouldn’t surprise you at all of where they get their orders from. You want to make a difference? Teach men how to game. Complaining about how women behave to a group of guys who are well aware of their behavior won’t do anything but confirm the insecurities of the silent lurkers reading the threads here, and they’ll end up in the mgtow camp whining and crying about matriarchy.
Your heart is in the right place, but you’re knocking friendlies out of the air. Focus and aim.

The golden rule for life — and as a man — is to separate verbal bullshit from the real world. I don’t even listen to women — OR MEN — anymore. Watch what they do.

A lot of girls will talk shit about women being this, feminist that — but they will never actually act that way. Same thing with men, too. Men talk a lot of shit about women evil, women stupid….but watch how they fucking act lol.

I don’t even understand how you guys can have the bad attitudes you have any more.

Why the negativity? Sure, things are bad, but saying “all women hate men” is completely ridiculous. They don’t. Or, the ones we want don’t. A woman’s SMV is inversely proportional to how much she hates men, barring unusual psychological problems — and even there, low-SMV women have more and worse psycho problems anyway. And I doubt many of the girls I meet even know what HuffPo is.

You’re even worse than Patrice. At least he wants to learn. Heck, I find I’m even agreeing with Metro Wanker on this one.

I just view it as like….how you feel when you’re working under a very competent boss. That feeling of trust that your boss creates with his competence and confidence is a good thing. Now imagine that, rather than enjoy a “work” environment like that….you just, enjoyed a “life” environment like that. Boom. You’re a woman.

I’m not even sure how that can even be construed as being demeaning to women. Like, ya, while the boss is ultimately in charge — it’s more a thing of accountability. The boss underwrites the entire enterprise —- because it’s his to lose. Once a woman gives a man her love, like…I can’t even fathom how anyone but him can toss it away. And a boss’s employees have agency. They contribute. They devote resources to making the enterprise richer and better. And there are times when the boss does need to rely on the employees.

‘Sexual frustration impairs the health of fruit flies and causes premature death, according to new research. Scientists found that male flies who were stimulated to mate but prevented from doing so, had their lives cut short by up to 40%.Those allowed to copulate not only lived longer but suffered less stress’

Funny observation, but realized this weekend that girls will shit test the girl you are with if that girls is hot and they feel threatened. Was hanging out with friends, slutty 7 swimsuit model in the group started shit testing my girl immediately, a solid 8. “you’re so dressed up! I didn’t know we had to dress up, I would have looked cuter.” / “you’re a pilates instructor? show me something! (me: “sorry, you have to pay for her lessons”) / “I want to see what good form looks like.”

Funny how girls rationalize. Cold approached my current primary at a gas station ans she ended up hanging out with me for a couple hours after. Invited her to a party a week later, didn’t have time to really talk with her when she arrived at the party, but texted her at 2am saying we should hang out again. She came right over and we were fucking minutes after her arrival. So we had literally known each other about 2 or 3 hours before she gave it up, from a cold approach. As she remembers (justifies) it, we had “known” each other for two weeks, so that made it okay.

A woman who was recently dumped has been posting junk like this on her Facebook all month. She also thinks that her 30s ass is going to land a FIERCE GENTLEMAN. http://fiercegentleman.com/10-qualities/

guess Reservoir hasn’t read the Bacchae. it’s pretty clear dionysus’ll buttfuck you–your crazed mother will tear you limb from limb– and society cannot survive if there is no place for revelry and the irrational.

This is offtopic, but I just finished reading Tolstoy’s Family Happiness, and it’s amazing how red-pill this man was back in the day. The story is written from the female perspective and you can see so many of the concepts (read hamstering) CH talks about.

Also, O.Wilde said “When a man does exactly what a woman expects him to do she doesn’t think much of him. One should always do what a woman doesn’t expect, just as one should say what she doesn’t understand.”

Maybe it’s time for post on the presence of Game in classic literature?

Disagree. They are amazingly useful as cum dumpsters that are down for anything. Some of the most righteous debauchery I have ever experienced was with a couple (at once) tatted out coked up whores. No holds barred full on sexual abandon.

They are also give you a wide degree of perspective on the relative ends of the spectrum of woman. So that when a true “Good girl” comes along (an increasingly rare phenomenon) you are appreciatve that at least one man didn’t have complete dereliction of duty towards his daughter.

That entire long winded diatribe from the empowered, successful, go grrl whore can be distilled in into the single final paragraph. Furthermore, I would posit this is basically a distillation of modern western woman.

During a recent visit to my shrink’s office, she pointed out to me that if I know I’m going to get attached to good dick, then maybe I should find some good dick that’s worth getting attached to. Like, maybe a nice guy with good dick. My reply to her? “But nice guys can’t fuck.”

Shrink’s office. No irony inferred at all after the long article above it.

This is a good thing actually, not sure what your point was posting this. Women need to understand that Genghis Khan, re-imagined as Khal Drogo, Mohammed (peace not be upon his sand nigger ass), Donald Trump, Howard Hughes, and any other uber alpha down the line can do whatever they like.

Gorgeous young pussy is as fleeting as the sand through the hourglass… more will come after it. It isn’t won, strived for, or acquired. It is simply the genetic lottery which you did NOTHING for at all. It is the Achilles’ Heel of all men since recorded history. Men have to work and tire for status. Women simply need to be born high, above the rest.

These billionaires are re-educating our sickened dying modern world that I can buy any women I want because at the end of the day, most of you are whores. Status whores, hypergamy whores, etc.

Making a woman cry over some jerk boy move is the best advertising there is. Then, once every chick in her social circle knows, one can act like a decent, but firm, guy with all the other women she knows.
I did this type of move to a group of church girls. They would display iois, but I never fucked them because the last thing I wanted were brainwashed girls, fathers and a pastor on my case.

The thing is, though CH once again has let something slide in his quest of over amplifying the power of a jerk, is why would an alpha guy be involved with a girl who was overweight a solid 15 lbs? He wouldn’t. The guy who submitted this text convo is a beta, by default.

lol. she was pretty hot when i first banged her, then broke her ankle and put on a lot of weight during recovery. i had zero involvement with said chick during fatass stage. im making her send nudes to confirm shes back in fuxing condition.

i always forget how effective being inconsiderate really is. i was meeting a girl in the midst of a bunch of other errands, and ended up in shorts and flips, unshowered, unshaved, and without my wallet. i decided ahead of time not to apologize and just let her deal with it. figured we might just stay in and hit the sheets if i was lucky. instead she changes everyone’s plans to go to a non-id-strict bar, pays for drinks and food and games all night, and eventually drives her roommates out of the house with the noise of our sex. as a natural beta who has to consciously avoid those instincts, it’s always a long drive home shaking my head when i’m reminded of the nature of woman.

‘The third possible explanation is that facial indicators of intelligence are signals rather than cues and that the honest signalling of intelligence is adaptive for men but not for women. It can be speculated, for example, that because of their mixed mating strategy, women prefer dominant men as extra-pair sexual partners while at the same time they seek men who are more willing to invest in their offspring as long-term or social partners [52]. It is known that while in the fertile phase of cycle and probably in search of good genes, women prefer creative intelligence to wealth especially in short-term mating’

Seems like a huge moneyshot for game in that twittered study. A lot of ‘game’ is the demonstration of creative intelligence — reframing and humor, mainly.

Kind of funny that I did this unwittingly as a beta in HS and Uni. I was (am?) such a clusterfuck of timid of awkwardness with the girls I want and a bit of a teasing dick with the ones I find homely/mildly attractive and boring.

Guess what, I’m still fucking the boring ones and not getting the good one I chase. I should really switch it up and knock it off with the chasing and the piedestal lol.

I think my only real advantages is that I focus on myself in life: be as successful and stylish as possible for my own sake. But living life for yourself interestingly enough is a bit of a handicap as a beta since it leaves little motivation in seeking out a woman to live with. Why not keep fucking nice (albeit utterly uninteresting) girls and not give up anything, you know?

Ah well, hopefully I’ll get lucky one day and shack up with a gal I think is great. I doubt shifting focus from my life and trying harder with that would yield me anything.