>>134086876>Is that a thing in Japanese to be so indirect?yes. The language itself is indirect. Many sentences only have implied subjects for instance. Then the culture itself stresses being indirect further.

>>134087056>disaster level dragon, what kind of mysterious being is disaster level god.

Your reading too much into things though. I mean keep in mind the fanbook has King with max stats. It also lists Tats' age as unknown even though we know it.

Just remember to think things through and keep things simple. The association only has 5 disaster levels. They also have criteria attached. The author says Boros is stronger than the second highest level, so that only leaves the highest level. Does Boros meet the criteria for that level? Yes.

>>134087056I'm calling bullshit on that comment, is it even the good translation? There has never been inbetween levels even though there is a large margin between some demon or dragon (cat child and Sea King, Fhurer Ugly and Golden Sperm), "above dragon" can only mean God.

>>134087056Also UK, if you are still here, can you help out with this. Also somebody translated and said Boros is Dragon Level here, but in MB he is God level. I can't read this shit, so I don't know if that is true.

>>134087412>confirmed for being WRITTEN by ONE, not just supervisedcitation needed. In all seriousness though, I think it went down like this "hello ONE, we're thinking of adding this scene of Tatsumaki just to pad out the episode, what do you think?" "kay"

>>134087337Boros was never officially classified, though. His ship alone was dragon, and since he was both capable and willing to destroy earth to take out Saitama he would almost certainly be God-level if anyone else knew about him.

>>134087840I think it would need to destroy several cities and not seems like it would stop for a virus to be god threat. Except if its effect is overbroken and would quickly kill everyone I guess. The only non monster threat we got until now was the meteor, wonder if we'll get more.

>>134087985Also, if much stronger individuals like Tats and Saitama weren't a thing, Black Sperm should easily be abe to wipe out humanity if his broken number of him that should be way beyond the number of people living in OPM. Hell, he could just kill every heroes and then do that if he wanted, would easily work.

>>134087823What does the misplaced threat level have to do with that?The very definition of the threat levels themselves means that Boros is a god level threat. What is so hard to understand about that?

>>134088538The databook says King is stronger than Saitama and ONE said he is above dragon.And if ONE actually said that Boros was no threat to humanity I'd wonder how humanity would try to stop someone who could destroy a city with a punch, kick someone to the moon and had a planetary attack

>>134088472Mangatown has all the bonus chapters and revisions properly numbered. Manga.life has all the Viz releases so far (which have terrible translations but include redrawn scenes and extra artwork from the tankobons).

The databook has joke stats for a joke character consistent with the running joke of the manga. Incredible, isn't is it?

> ONE said he is above dragon.

Yeah, he didn't say that he's god level. Considering that and the databook, Boros could be considered a borderline case, but it's not an actual God level threat.

>>134088709>And if ONE actually said that Boros was no threat to humanity I'd wonder how humanity would try to stop someone who could destroy a city with a punch, kick someone to the moon and had a planetary attack

Look, I don't like that as well, but the databook is clear, while ONE was deliberately vague when he could have been explicit. Probably ONE has another idea for the actual and proper God level threat.

>>134087593>>134087483Literal translations sound retarded, reading LN's should prove that very easily to anyone. Being faithful to the source is important but not at the cost of readability because you're an unthinking drone that doesn't understand communication.

Exactly, that's you, someone who demands a dumbed down and simpler script because that "sound better". Again, if you don't like how the author write, mail him. Don't ask translators to try replace the author.

>>134087608Except the book shows him and says Dragon. ONE most likely provided assistance in filling information out for the book, and the page doesn't show Boros' ship, it shows Boros himself fighting Saitama.

>>134091821>I don't like how the author phrased it>Stop translating things I don't like, translate it the way I want it to sound, even if it completely changes meaningYou realize how fucking retarded you sound?

>>134087736Only 1200 power level to take down earth but goku still weak as fuck at ssg that said to be has power level more than trilion and can be taken down by mere presentation laser and feeble fodder opponent. Talking about rational in your guidebook that you consider as canon to all .

>>134091715No there shouldn't. If the author says "it's not white" and you want it to be "It's black", even blaming the translators, then it's not a matter for interpretation, you're a fucking idiot.>>134091821Knowing a language has nothing to do with translating what's written there. You'd be a horrible translator for any media.

>>134092778>You'd be a horrible translator for any media.Says the guy who thinks literal translations are the way to go. Shit's unacceptable outside garbage fan translations.

Language isn't a list of words, it's meant to communicate. Unless the author wrote it to sound retarded and awkward in Japanese, it should not sound retarded and awkward in english. Literal translations make english sound retarded and awkward.

>>134092863While I think >>134092778 is a dipshit and literal translations are retarded, I don't think that is a problem in this case. Above A class is what was said, and above A class doesn't sound awkward. It's only weird because above A class is only S, but the same goes for the jap version.

You and that guy are saying the same thing, though.No idea idea why you are trying so hard to make it looks like he was advocating excessively literal translations. Being against retarded and arbitrary changes doesn't mean wanting excessively literal translations.

>>134093399It's ambiguous, it can mean both. But apparently lots of people are upset that I started translating more literally, when only 2 weeks ago readers complained that I was translating too freely.

While "A and above" doesn't mean much sense because the HA uses a strict ranking system, "Above Dragon" definitely makes sense, not as "Dragon+", but simply that he is Dragon level but slightly stronger than other Dragon level monsters, while not being strong enough to be considered God level.Is it really that hard to get it?

>>134093557Well, that's why I said generally. But in situations like these where there's only one thing above the thing being listed I feel pretty safe interpreting it that way. Especially since the inclusive use seems to be more common on the whole.

And people are always going to complain about something, don't let it get to you.

>>134093761Why not have a ranking above dragon but below god? If dragon is "threat to multiple cities", and god is "threat to humanity", why not have one thats "threat to a country" or something like that?

Actually, now that I think about it, on one of the anime episodes it showed a map that revealed the cities are fucking huge, so maybe there aren't actually 'countries' in the OPM universe.

>>134093855>So Above dragon level can only mean God level.Not exactly. Monster rankings aren't as strict as HA rankings and it's been shown countless times that a certain monster was judged wrongly by them, which means he is above the other dragon level monsters but hasn't done anything to be considered a God threat. Similar to how Garou only called himself a God threat despite never doing anything indicative of actually being such a threat, hell he didn't even kill anyone regardless of having the power to do it or not.

>>134093847I want it to be the second so bad. But part of Garou's character is that he's largely undefeated until he encounters Saitama after the dine and dash, and Bang/brother. So it's probably going to be the case that Metal Knight's onslaught breaks up the fight.

>>134093952That doesn't change a thing. The meteor didn't destroy multiple cities, yet it still was dragon level because of the potential destruction. Something that is above Dragon is a God Level threat, simple as that. Else it would be a dragon level threat.

>>134094060>>134094042Monster rankings aren't black and white, and the series isn't power level oriented. Boros being "stronger than dragon" and not being explicitly stated as being "god threat" means that until ONE says "ok yeah he was god threat", he's simply at the top of Dragon, above all other Dragon levels. He's not "in-between" or "Dragon+" or "God". He's above the rest of Dragon, which means TOP OF DRAGON.

>>134094120like I said it's ambiguous so it can mean both, I interpret it as "s-class plus sweet mask who is A-class", which would basically still mean "above A-class" because sweet mask is an exception.

>>134094162Monster Rankings aren't black and white, but monster RANKS are clearly defined. There's some grey area when it comes to DECIDING what rank a monster is because it's usually based on the information the HA has at hand, but if a monster is ABOVE Dragon Class, then they are by definition God Class. No 2 ways about it.

Isn't this kind of rare? I know artists who are obviously much better at art than writing, but it seems odd someone could actually be "bad" at writing while being good at art, since writing is a lot easier.

The Metal Knight appearance in this chapter doesn't really feel like ONE wrote it. Reused design, reused attacks, reused motivation, sound like someone read the meteor chapter and tried to write Metal Knight based on it.

>>134094362>but it seems odd someone could actually be "bad" at writing while being good at art, since writing is a lot easier.See: Oh Great. And not just him, there's many mangaka who work primarily paired with writers.

And writing isn't easy. I'm sure Murata can write if he needs to, but he's simply not a guy with a really good story to tell. For that I applaud his self awareness, because Again: Oh Great. Great art, atrocious writing. he'd do much better partnered up.

>>134094301>There's some grey area when it comes to DECIDING what rank a monster is but if a monster is decided as a rank it's definite.No, also read what >>134093399 said, Boros is Dragon, top of it, not God level. Unless ONE explicitly says he is, he's only the strongest of the Dragon class so far. Same with Garou, he only called himself a God level so unless ONE says he did become a God level threat he's still a Dragon level one, and lower than Boros.

>>134093557Sorry UK, but let's be honest, choosing between " Rank A and above" and "Above Rank A" has nothing to do with translating literally or freely, those are just a different interpretations of the same ambiguous sentence. And you must choose one because conveying that ambiguity is impossible.

About the free/proper/literal translation matter, as I say 2 weeks ago, just decide what you think is more reasonable. Not what people want, you should never care about that. The only important thing is what's better and more reasonable for ONE's script.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=30872 ignore the dvr because it's ubspecified and only recordingThey think this rating is good but if you compare. It's actually not good rating. in kanto region

See usually the highest rating is above 20 and 5% near anything being good rating.>>134092171http://www.videor.co.jp/data/ratedata/backnum/2015/index.htm and morning show is consistenly has the highest rating if we ignore classification, cmiiw.

You've mentioned two, and I remember in the '80s it was more common like Hara/Buronson, but in my own experience looking for artists, it's hard to hire a freelancer who is willing to do art but would accept minimal input on story.

>>134094631But we don't know if it's actually above x, so the whole point is moot. You should know by now that when it comes OPM just because someone says it is one thing doesn't mean it actually is that thing. Characters and organizations have been wrong numerous times before.

ONE is spending almost all his time on MOB, which is his actual job. OPM is just a hobby. He isn't writing the non-canon chapters Murata comes up with, he's likely doing what Eiichiro Oda does when he "approves" Toei filler: it's okay as long as it doesn't violate canon or something I want to do later.

>>134094740>But we don't know if it's actually above x, so the whole point is moot.Regarding boros, maybe. But if something is said to be above X, then it's not X. There is no in-between. There's many different Dragon Class with different power levels, but they're all Dragon Class. There's nothing in between classes.

>Characters and organizations have been wrong numerous times before. Obviously, but for the most part they err on the lower side. And the HA didn't give a threat level on Boros, ONE did, even if it was not a straight answer.

>>134094999> db fag know anything about canonYes in your logic everything is guidebook, notebook online game that's touched by author must be ultra canon ean supersede even the source manga material. It's secondary canon it'a the best as it can achieve. That's how it usually is.

>>134094971>But if something is said to be above X, then it's not X.See>>134093399>>134087082It's not stated as "definitely God", simply that it is above the rest of Dragon. If it's not God but above the other Dragon threats seen so far (which is what the scale is based off), it's top of Dragon.

>>134095204Above rest of Dragon, not above the tier itself. HA didn't conduct studies on it to judge it as being definitely not Dragon, it's an estimate. Does it say he's God? No? He's not God.Until something explicitly says "Boros was the God level threat", he'll still be the strongest Dragon level that's ever appeared, but not God.

>>134095172> dbfag assumption> hipster assumptionWhy do we care about hipster assumption. Webcomic is the source material and the most canon it's has been the ruling since age a go. Since manga and anime is exist. Why must OPM become hipster like you dbfag?

>>134092381Pig God defeated Gums, who was a dragon level threat, and also finished off Evil Natural Water who may or may not have been dragon at that point (it still one shot the A class hero that was there)

>>134095617We have literally seen the previously unreleased ONE drawn storyboards for the "filler" that murata draws. Specifically the Konbu Infinity arc. Is there a council of OPM Elders meeting in your head that makes these "rulings" you keep referencing?

Go ahead mod if you want to continue this hipster faggotry of dbfag. That think their guidebook and their online game is canon to all because toriyama touch a bit of it. Eventhough contradicting everywhere yet ignore it.

Why are people being so retarded about boros being god level? He's above dragon which is threat to cities, therefore god which is threat to humanity. No one is saying he IS god. Just like how theres multiple dragon tier monsters later on, there might be more god tier monsters.