<p><img src="https://elroycdn.twit.tv/sites/default/files/styles/twit_album_art_144x144/public/images/shows/triangulation/album_art/audio/tri_albumart_2017_audio.jpg?itok=MiP2WoDm" align="right" hspace="20" vspace="20" border="0" title="Triangulation (Audio)" alt="Triangulation (Audio)"/></p><p>Nicole Lazzaro is the President of XEODesign and an expert in UX (user experience) design for video games. She talks with Leo Laporte about designing games that give you a feeling of agency, engagement, and fun.</p>
<p><strong>Hosts:</strong> <a href="https://twit.tv/people/leo-laporte">Leo Laporte</a>, <a href="https://twit.tv/people/megan-morrone">Megan Morrone</a>, and <a href="https://twit.tv/people/jason-howell">Jason Howell</a></p>
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