Yeah, sorry I wasn't clear. I read your article link which I liked. I then saw the link I posted which deals a lot with the terminology.

No need to apologise. Sorry I wasn't clear either. I was just acknowledging the relevance of your link.

On a seperate note things can happen during the course of a day which plunge you suddenly into the depths of depression and despair. Today has been such a day for me since my post this morning when I felt relatively ok, albeit with things bubbling under the surface as always. I'm currently in a very bad place and hating the world and its injustices. Somethings are just too out of your control no matter how much you do to try and change things for the better and fight for what you believe in but there's too much nastiness in this world and for some reason it's always permitted to thrive even when there are those in positions who have the power to stop it but are too complacent to bother. I dont know why i'm sharing this. Perhaps its helped a little and gives me a little break from banging my head against a brick wall (sometimes literally). When i read other peoples' posts like this I'm always sympathetic, empathic and understanding (although I rarely express it), but when I read my own words I think I just come over as an attention seeking whiner so I'll stop now. Should I delete or post? Delete or post? Oh what the hell..

No need to apologise. Sorry I wasn't clear either. I was just acknowledging the relevance of your link.

On a seperate note things can happen during the course of a day which plunge you suddenly into the depths of depression and despair. Today has been such a day for me since my post this morning when I felt relatively ok, albeit with things bubbling under the surface as always. I'm currently in a very bad place and hating the world and its injustices. Somethings are just too out of your control no matter how much you do to try and change things for the better and fight for what you believe in but there's too much nastiness in this world and for some reason it's always permitted to thrive even when there are those in positions who have the power to stop it but are too complacent to bother. I dont know why i'm sharing this. Perhaps its helped a little and gives me a little break from banging my head against a brick wall (sometimes literally). When i read other peoples' posts like this I'm always sympathetic, empathic and understanding (although I rarely express it), but when I read my own words I think I just come over as an attention seeking whiner so I'll stop now. Should I delete or post? Delete or post? Oh what the hell..

This particular thread on NSC is life enhancing, and the derailers soon get shooed away, so go for it.

No need to apologise. Sorry I wasn't clear either. I was just acknowledging the relevance of your link.

On a seperate note things can happen during the course of a day which plunge you suddenly into the depths of depression and despair. Today has been such a day for me since my post this morning when I felt relatively ok, albeit with things bubbling under the surface as always. I'm currently in a very bad place and hating the world and its injustices. Somethings are just too out of your control no matter how much you do to try and change things for the better and fight for what you believe in but there's too much nastiness in this world and for some reason it's always permitted to thrive even when there are those in positions who have the power to stop it but are too complacent to bother. I dont know why i'm sharing this. Perhaps its helped a little and gives me a little break from banging my head against a brick wall (sometimes literally). When i read other peoples' posts like this I'm always sympathetic, empathic and understanding (although I rarely express it), but when I read my own words I think I just come over as an attention seeking whiner so I'll stop now. Should I delete or post? Delete or post? Oh what the hell..

Hi.

Before your next post, if I may, I'd like to comment.

Remember, depression is a 100% legitimate illness. In that state, it's as if a dark, miserable cloud hangs over all your thoughts. You and all other sufferers need help, your entitled to and deserve that help, so seek it and you will eventually find a happier self.

Then regarding the nastiness and evil in the world, you will need to take a giant step back from that, until you are well again. Spending mental energy in despair at uncontrollable events in the wider world, can wait. Then you make more of an impact for the better, that you would imagine. But your number one concern now can only be dealing with your depression and getting happier.

No need to apologise. Sorry I wasn't clear either. I was just acknowledging the relevance of your link.

On a seperate note things can happen during the course of a day which plunge you suddenly into the depths of depression and despair. Today has been such a day for me since my post this morning when I felt relatively ok, albeit with things bubbling under the surface as always. I'm currently in a very bad place and hating the world and its injustices. Somethings are just too out of your control no matter how much you do to try and change things for the better and fight for what you believe in but there's too much nastiness in this world and for some reason it's always permitted to thrive even when there are those in positions who have the power to stop it but are too complacent to bother. I dont know why i'm sharing this. Perhaps its helped a little and gives me a little break from banging my head against a brick wall (sometimes literally). When i read other peoples' posts like this I'm always sympathetic, empathic and understanding (although I rarely express it), but when I read my own words I think I just come over as an attention seeking whiner so I'll stop now. Should I delete or post? Delete or post? Oh what the hell..

i have always been able to shrug my moods off and dispel them in the knowledge that everything is temporary , had the odd spell where i didn't want to get out of the pit for days but just did it .....having just been diagnosed with prostate cancer i am now spinning out ....i have a fantastic wife and 2 beautiful kids and i am shitting myself .....worse than my darkest mood but in a strange way i've never felt more alive .....very strange headspace i'm in right now, not depressed , something else.

There is always the possibility of a tipping point. But in isolation, getting knocked out of the World Cup isn't depression.

Agreed. When we get knocked out of the World Cup I will be depressed, disappointed and possibly angry. For the following few days I will be quite upset, miserable and deeply pissed off. But then I'll get over it. I would certainly never say "I've got depression"; that would be hugely insulting to all the people with genuine problems who've posted on this thread (and others).