By the way, if you're into that sort of reading, nothing beats the Greek mythologies. They set the standard.

Gtown71 wrote:

You are without excuse.When I mentioned being an atheist, I mentioned, if there was such a thing.

a·the·ist [ey-thee-ist] nouna person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.

You would question the existence of atheists, but you don't question the existence of an invisible, omniscient, omnipotent being? You have an odd way of processing reality.

Gtown71 wrote:

I truly didn't believe in God, but if there was a God I hated Him.

You sound conflicted. It's like me saying I don't believe in invisible pink elephants, but I hate them. Doesn't make much sense, now, does it.

Gtown71 wrote:

God woke me up and dealt with me, the very next day I noticed something different. I was not around any christians at all.I had no desire to drink, take pills, or cuss, just the night before I was doing just that.

Well, that explains your "visions". Next time, try not mixing the red pills with the blue pills.

Gtown71 wrote:

I went from having no prob dropping the biggest curse word you could think of, to not being able to say any without feeling horrible.

Repressed guilt can do that to a person.

Gtown71 wrote:

I had a desire to read a bible, for the firat time in my life, I couldn't stop talking about God, before I never wanted to hear anything about God.

I encourage everyone to read the bible, cover to cover. If that doesn't convince people it's all a myth, I don't know what will.

Gtown71 wrote:

Read what made Solomon the wisest man to ever live.He had all the money, education, Nd women you could imagine, but counted it all nothing without God.

Solomon? Wasn't he the guy that tried to chop a baby in half to resolve a dispute with a grieving mother and an impostor?

Gtown71 wrote:

I have not read this entire thread, I assume you believe in evolution, which takes waaay more faith, then God.

How does studying how nature works require more faith than believing in an invisible best friend? You do realize the definition of faith is belief without evidence. On the other hand, there is plenty of evidence to support evolution (biological, archaeological, genetic, etc.).

Gtown71 wrote:

Jesus lived a perfect life, died for you and me, rose the third day, so that any who simply put their faith and trust in Him, shall live forever, no matter what any church denom says.

So you believe in a god that requires human sacrifice in order to save you from the original sin of Adam and Eve (that you had nothing to do with)? A strange fellow that god is (assuming he exists).

<quoted text>You may say what you will.I never had a prob telling people what I thought.Plus God already knows what you wanted to say.you may get as vile as you wish with me, it doesn't matter what you say to me.I understand how I wanted nothing to do with Jesus Christ, and lumped all religions together, but now I know the truth.Perhaps one day you will be humble enough to see it.A man died for you, to cover all of your sin, yet you would rather hang onto what you are taught, or learn from another man.I'm sure you are readi.g this thinking a ton of sharp come backs, but either way God is real, and His name is Jesus Christ.

rabbee: yes but it only takes, one lie to hide your eyes from the actual truth. so what is the real purpose, of the fake name jesus?

<quoted text>Last time I checked, Obama was the commander in chief. The buck stops there. He authorized it. He owned the operation.Why do you always post from a smart phone? Dont you realize that this will make it easier for the Feds to track you?

I'm not afraid of federal morons, I do nothing wrong.

If the Buck stops there then he is responsible for every last child killed by a drone.

<quoted text>It's a hell of a lot more clear that Bush didn't get Bin Laddin.But it's also clear he invaded the wrong country and killed at least 10s of thousands of innocent Iraqi citizens.I don't recall him apologizing for that.

So you are stating that he is no better than bush, got it but why are you trying to deflect the argument?

<quoted text>Who said anything about theories? You make a positive assertion that god exists, the burden is on you to prove it, not on me to disprove it.<quoted text>Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Sorry, but saying "the Earth is here, therefore god exists" does not cut it. Doesn't matter what your book of mythology says.By the way, if you're into that sort of reading, nothing beats the Greek mythologies. They set the standard.<quoted text>a·the·ist [ey-thee-ist]nouna person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.You would question the existence of atheists, but you don't question the existence of an invisible, omniscient, omnipotent being? You have an odd way of processing reality.<quoted text>You sound conflicted. It's like me saying I don't believe in invisible pink elephants, but I hate them. Doesn't make much sense, now, does it.<quoted text>Well, that explains your "visions". Next time, try not mixing the red pills with the blue pills.<quoted text>Repressed guilt can do that to a person.<quoted text>I encourage everyone to read the bible, cover to cover. If that doesn't convince people it's all a myth, I don't know what will.<quoted text>Solomon? Wasn't he the guy that tried to chop a baby in half to resolve a dispute with a grieving mother and an impostor?<quoted text>How does studying how nature works require more faith than believing in an invisible best friend? You do realize the definition of faith is belief without evidence. On the other hand, there is plenty of evidence to support evolution (biological, archaeological, genetic, etc.).<quoted text>So you believe in a god that requires human sacrifice in order to save you from the original sin of Adam and Eve (that you had nothing to do with)? A strange fellow that god is (assuming he exists).

Well atheist do exsist, when I considered myself an atheist I didn't want to be anywhere near anything about any god.I am amazed at how many claim to not believe in God, yet love talking about what they say that don't believe in.

I had a man tell me once, that after going through what I did, and confessing my Sin was the reason I no longer wanted to drink or take drugs.Ok, so I thought on it, it still don't explain why I hated to curse, and had a desire (for the first time ever) to read a bible, and listen to preaching, with no one trying to get me to.

I went from not wanting any of that to some days reading and watching preaching for up to 12 hours a day.

Evolution takes faith, and lots of it.When they do find a dino bone, they rarely find a complete set.sounds like a flood hit, and bloated dinos rose to the top, falling to pieces as the waters left, sinking quickly in the mud.

What do they say when they dig up a tree, in the upright postion, that has been torn frim its roots?

Did the tree stand there for millions of years?it does take faith to believe i. GOD, that is how He set it up.We want to make our own God, and many do.Many have christ on their sign, yet don't have a clue about God.

I'm just trying to show you how a person went from one way to another.I was BORN AGAIN, as I read later.Nothing I did would work.As far as Adam, if it wasn't him, it would have been me or you.

The Sin of others does effect you, if someone you love commits Sin, they do effect you. Many in prison today, becouse they were associated with another.

God shows us where we stand, and what we can do about it.I no longer fear death at all.I will go to heaven, not becouse of what I've done, but becouse of what He did.not becouse of who I am, but becouse of who He is.If you were as humble as a kindergardener, and seen yourself for who you are, not measuring yourself against another man, then you could see your need for a savior.I Am A born again christian, thanks to God.

<quoted text>Well atheist do exsist, when I considered myself an atheist I didn't want to be anywhere near anything about any god.I am amazed at how many claim to not believe in God, yet love talking about what they say that don't believe in.I had a man tell me once, that after going through what I did, and confessing my Sin was the reason I no longer wanted to drink or take drugs.Ok, so I thought on it, it still don't explain why I hated to curse, and had a desire (for the first time ever) to read a bible, and listen to preaching, with no one trying to get me to.I went from not wanting any of that to some days reading and watching preaching for up to 12 hours a day.Evolution takes faith, and lots of it.When they do find a dino bone, they rarely find a complete set.sounds like a flood hit, and bloated dinos rose to the top, falling to pieces as the waters left, sinking quickly in the mud.What do they say when they dig up a tree, in the upright postion, that has been torn frim its roots?Did the tree stand there for millions of years?it does take faith to believe i. GOD, that is how He set it up.We want to make our own God, and many do.Many have christ on their sign, yet don't have a clue about God.I'm just trying to show you how a person went from one way to another.I was BORN AGAIN, as I read later.Nothing I did would work.As far as Adam, if it wasn't him, it would have been me or you.The Sin of others does effect you, if someone you love commits Sin, they do effect you. Many in prison today, becouse they were associated with another.God shows us where we stand, and what we can do about it.I no longer fear death at all.I will go to heaven, not becouse of what I've done, but becouse of what He did.not becouse of who I am, but becouse of who He is.If you were as humble as a kindergardener, and seen yourself for who you are, not measuring yourself against another man, then you could see your need for a savior.I Am A born again christian, thanks to God.

<quoted text>Do you doubt their word?I claim to not believe in god.Why is it such an interesting subject?Look at how many people believe in something without a shred of evidence.So many devote their lives to this idea; give so much money; model their lives around the traditions and edicts of their faiths.Yeah, I'd say I find it all pretty damn interesting.

It is very interesting, men have within themselves to worship somthing.Some woeship trees, cows etc...

I waa raised church of christ, told to be a good boy.I tried to be good, but at age 10 I found my father dead, and my church going mom started going to bars, bringing home a different guy every other night. This lead me to believe that God wasn't real, and that there were religious people, and people like me who knew the truth. Lol

What I say is true, after looking up my favorite sin in the bible, and Not liking what it said, it did put me under holy ghost conviction.Although I didn't know how to word it, It did lead me to ask "what if? "

If God was real, then I was in trouble!!!

But with sooo many different gods, which one was real, if any?

The night I was woken up, it was exactly 1:30 am.Something I will never forget.

As this God was speaking to me, inwardly, Although no one can explain.He let me know, that I was about to yeild to Him, or I was fixing to die and go to Hell, or spiritualy die, and He would never bother me again!

All I said was ok God ok, but you're going to have to help me!

After that I went to sleep, having a peace that passed all understanding.I woke up a new man in Christ, just didn't know how to word it.

I went a few days later to buy a bible.They asked me what kind? I said black!they laughed and said no, what version? I said Holy.they laughed again, and I was educated on All the different versions, or now say perversions of the bible.

Many follow their traditions, but I'm glad that I was in No church when I was saved!

Just like others couldn't put into words, when they tried telling me this, I now find myself in their position.

All I do know, is Jesus Christ saved my soul forever more the night I yeilded to His call.He is not a respector of persons, and will save any, with the humble heart who ask.

<quoted text>It is very interesting, men have within themselves to worship somthing.Some woeship trees, cows etc...I waa raised church of christ, told to be a good boy.I tried to be good, but at age 10 I found my father dead, and my church going mom started going to bars, bringing home a different guy every other night. This lead me to believe that God wasn't real, and that there were religious people, and people like me who knew the truth. LolWhat I say is true, after looking up my favorite sin in the bible, and Not liking what it said, it did put me under holy ghost conviction.Although I didn't know how to word it, It did lead me to ask "what if? "If God was real, then I was in trouble!!!But with sooo many different gods, which one was real, if any?The night I was woken up, it was exactly 1:30 am.Something I will never forget.As this God was speaking to me, inwardly, Although no one can explain.He let me know, that I was about to yeild to Him, or I was fixing to die and go to Hell, or spiritualy die, and He would never bother me again!All I said was ok God ok, but you're going to have to help me!After that I went to sleep, having a peace that passed all understanding.I woke up a new man in Christ, just didn't know how to word it.I went a few days later to buy a bible.They asked me what kind? I said black!they laughed and said no, what version? I said Holy.they laughed again, and I was educated on All the different versions, or now say perversions of the bible.Many follow their traditions, but I'm glad that I was in No church when I was saved!Just like others couldn't put into words, when they tried telling me this, I now find myself in their position.All I do know, is Jesus Christ saved my soul forever more the night I yeilded to His call.He is not a respector of persons, and will save any, with the humble heart who ask.

My brother is a born-again Christian and is very passionate about it, much the way you seem to be.

If faith brings one peace and comfort, and there is no attempt to force it on others, no harm done.

<quoted text>My brother is a born-again Christian and is very passionate about it, much the way you seem to be.If faith brings one peace and comfort, and there is no attempt to force it on others, no harm done.It sounds as though you're having good results.Merry Christmas.

Praise God for your brother!I went from feeling like a cage lion to someone with peace and joy unspeakable (which I read about later in the bible):)It is Very Hard, when you know the Truth about the most important matter in life, and not want others, those you love especialy to have what you have.We sometimes try to force or push it on others, but I realize that's not the way.What I can talk a man into, another man can talk him out of.Merry Christmas to you and yours :)

<quoted text>My brother is a born-again Christian and is very passionate about it, much the way you seem to be.If faith brings one peace and comfort, and there is no attempt to force it on others, no harm done.It sounds as though you're having good results.Merry Christmas.

<quoted text>Yeah but at least Gtown has the balls to admit and declare that he/she is a Christian.Our spineless Jamaican friend could learn from this.

rabbee: funny i don't remember calling myself either a christian or a jew or jesus, just over 2000 years ago. nor do i know, where anyone gets their idea, that i am a christian or muslem in this second coming of adam. when it is even a supprize to HaMosheeach who they both are here in TheStory of Creation again.

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