The definition this article gives is they "who were born or died in Greece and/or whose relics have survived in Greece". Well, I'm not sure if this is true. What would a saint born and died in Asia Minor, i.e. present-day Turkey, be? A Turk saint? I think that this is false. Possibly the only Turkish saints would be those new martyrs born Ottomans, converted to Christianity and martyred, namely Ahmed the Calligrapher and a few others. However, the Rum millet during the Ottoman empire was multi-ethnic and the Ottoman millet was Muslim exclusively. So, in a way, even these saints would not qualify as Turks.

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The Roman empire, terminally defeated in 1453, had been a Greek-speaking empire since at least the 6th century and the "Romian ethnos", come into being after Charlemagne was crowned a Roman empire, gradually led to a neo-Hellenic ethnogenesis. Between 11th and 15th centuries, the Romian self-conscience was Greek. So, I propose that the Romians/Byzantines after the Schism and until the Fall of Constantinople would be categorized as Greeks.

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As far as the Rum millet is concerned, I know that it was a multi-ethnic community for centuries. But in 1922, when a population exchange took part between Greece and Turkey, all Christians from Asia Minor came to Greece, no matter what their language was. There were people that could not speak a Greek word. Similarly, all Muslims left Greece for Turkey, even if their mother tongue was Greek. So, I propose that the saints of this period from/in Asia Minor and proper Greece be classified as Greeks, except if otherwise proven. [[User:Rhodion|Rhodion]] 01:40, November 23, 2012 (HST)

Holy New Martyrs Triantaphillus of Zagoras and Anastasios of Thessolonica

St. John the New Martyr of Crete

St. John the New Martyr of Epiros

St. Juvenaly & Peter the Aleut, New Martyrs of Alaska

St. Akylina the New Martyr of Thessaloniki

St. Chryssi the New Martyr of Greece

St. Panteleimon the New Martyr of Asia Minor

St. John the New Martyr of Peleponnesos

What is a Greek saint?

The definition this article gives is they "who were born or died in Greece and/or whose relics have survived in Greece". Well, I'm not sure if this is true. What would a saint born and died in Asia Minor, i.e. present-day Turkey, be? A Turk saint? I think that this is false. Possibly the only Turkish saints would be those new martyrs born Ottomans, converted to Christianity and martyred, namely Ahmed the Calligrapher and a few others. However, the Rum millet during the Ottoman empire was multi-ethnic and the Ottoman millet was Muslim exclusively. So, in a way, even these saints would not qualify as Turks.

The Roman empire, terminally defeated in 1453, had been a Greek-speaking empire since at least the 6th century and the "Romian ethnos", come into being after Charlemagne was crowned a Roman empire, gradually led to a neo-Hellenic ethnogenesis. Between 11th and 15th centuries, the Romian self-conscience was Greek. So, I propose that the Romians/Byzantines after the Schism and until the Fall of Constantinople would be categorized as Greeks.

As far as the Rum millet is concerned, I know that it was a multi-ethnic community for centuries. But in 1922, when a population exchange took part between Greece and Turkey, all Christians from Asia Minor came to Greece, no matter what their language was. There were people that could not speak a Greek word. Similarly, all Muslims left Greece for Turkey, even if their mother tongue was Greek. So, I propose that the saints of this period from/in Asia Minor and proper Greece be classified as Greeks, except if otherwise proven. Rhodion 01:40, November 23, 2012 (HST)