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This is true, at least for people who can draw to begin with. I can't draw worth crap, but almost the only difference between my friend's sober and drunk sketching ability is that she does it faster drunk.

Sometimes when I'm stuck coding up some components that are either tedious or require extra creativity, I try for a bit and then go "fuck it, I'll do this drunk." After one or two double scotch on the rocks, the mental block would just disappear, I'll be back cracking at it like a fiend. It's weird now human minds function...

Ya... 15 beers over the course of 4-5 hours is pretty significant... especially for a younger guy who hasn't had his liver fortified by a stint in the military, being married, or working a stressful career.

I've had all three, so I really have to hammer it down when I feel like punishing my liver.

I move into my new place on the 15th! Never been so damn excited to move in my life. lol. I'll be making an AMA that weekend, fully detailing everything, including the breakup... which will happen after the AMA is posted.

Ya, every gun except one of my carry pieces has been out for awhile now.

You know how artists talk about all the deep underlying meaning in art? Well my GF is in college for art, and she assures me that 95% of that is bullshit made up to sound like you're deep. In reality they chose the color for something because they thought it would look cool.

To be fair, just because that's the prevailing opinion of art majors in college (and it's probably pretty common among pretty much all programs like that) doesn't necessarily mean that the discussion of nuance and layers of meaning is generally BS among high levels of art (which are generally what the discussions of deeper underlying meaning revolve around).

Maybe that's one of the things that separates skilled artists with college courses from great artists. By the same token, there are tons of English majors in college, but very few will be the next Steinbeck.

This isn't meant as a slight at your girlfriend at all. Just an observation that art programs tend to attract a lot of people in the situation where they're decent/good high school students, they're expected to go to college, they have no idea what they might want to do with their lives, and they enjoy drawing/painting, so majoring in art seems to be an obvious thing to do after being given the advice to "pick something you're interested in." I wouldn't draw too many conclusions from the opinions of art majors, any more than I would draw conclusions about the prevailing opinions of physicists or historians based on physics majors or history majors.

I'll agree that just because it's a prevailing view does not make it correct (argumentum ad populum). I'd also say that often times there likely is underlying meaning in a number of art pieces.

Except Dadaism, with most of that stuff the whole point is that there is effectively nothing separating art from non-art other than the fact that someone claimed it was art :P

I think that many people who go to college for art might start entering it the way you describe, but after 3-4 years, I think most of the ones who are still there have either grown to be genuinely interested in the field of art, or always were. In the first year or 2 there are quite a few drop outs specifically because of what you describe. To stick with it for 3-4 years requires a considerable amount of dedication, due to the amount of time and effort require, as well as the cost (art supplies are expensive, and so is going to college, I think my girlfriend spent more money on art supplies than I spent on books as an electrical engineering student).

As for meaning, I'd say that often times the work artists do is originally inspired by an idea of some sort, maybe deep, maybe not so deep, and that depth sort of spontaneously arrives as the artist explores their work. I'd say in some cases that it's quite likely the original idea behind something was as simple as seeing something that looked cool, and using that as a basis, began to explore deeper ideas inspired by the original one leading to a body of work with a deep overall meaning.

But you have to admit, sometimes it's pretty easy to look at someone's piece of art and make up a completely BS explanation for how deep it is. I've helped my girlfriend with some writing like that before (it was actually analysis of a piece of artwork) wit no formal education in art at all.

In sixth grade we had this crazy hippie-ish art teacher. So crazy that one day, on her birthday, she sat in the front of the class and cried the whole half hour. Anyways, once, we're painting with acrylics to enter some area art contest. I was super lazy, and didn't give a shit, so I just painted a piece of paper yellow. Some green somehow got into it, so I turned it in as is, just a yellow and green piece of paper. I titled it, "Lemon lime", and won the contest.

Wow, lot's of negativity here. Would you perchance be an artist, or art student?

I may have exaggerated; but when the opinion of basically all the students in art at my college agree on this, I'd be a bit more inclined to believe them than someone who questions the veracity of my source in an insulting manner with absolutely no evidence to back their skepticism.

I thought this thread was going to be full of people talking about how a litre of wine won't get you that drunk. I have no problem getting through three bottles with a lady friend. Drunk? Definitely. But not wasted.