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Wednesday, April 24, 2013

Some confirmed HE rumors from the WD

UPDATED WITH MORE INFO!
Just rehashed stuff for the most part.
from Jossy's blog.

Source #1
Well this is more than a rumour roundup, its more a confirmation of what we will see in the new book. I've left the extortion rates in another post (read - prices)

Gone: Speed of Asuryan...

It is replaced with Always Strike first!
Martial Prowess and Valour of Ages remain

Deflect shots: Models with this special rule have a 6+ ward save against non-magical shooting attacks that do not have a template

Swordmasters of Hoeth and Loremasters of Hoeth have this rule

Loremaster of Hoeth:
M5 WS6 BS4 St4 T3 W3 I7 A3 Ld9
L2 mage. Does not role for spells, instead it automatically gets the signature spell of all the 8 battlemagic lores

White Lion Chariot is stubborn, but only the charioteers get ASF

Dragon Mage stats are unchanged.
Reckless special rule grants them +2 to cast spells from the lore of fire instead of extra dice. Can wear Dragon Armour

Known magic items:
Khaines Ring of Fury
Gem of Sunfire
Banner of the World Dragon

Magic
2 Signature Spells:

Drain magic, 7+ to cast. Cast on any unit (friend or foe) as an augment/hex within 18". All RiP spells are immediatley dispelled, and the effects of ALL other spells on target unit immediately cease! Boosted to effect all friend/enemy units within 18" on a 14+

Flamespyre Phoenix comes back to life on a role of 6+. It requires a marker to be left in place so this either happens at the end of the turn/next magic phase or every turn. It deploys within 6" of the marker. Gains special abilities based on WoM rolls (owners turn determines). One result is 4+ ward save. Has flaming attacks and a special rule 'Wake of Fire', which means units it fly over take damage (in the battle report in WD it did 6 wounds to leadbelchers). It has at least 4 wounds.

Frostheart Phoenix are just old Flamespyre Phoenicies

Both types can be ridden by an anointed of Asuryan or by Caradryan

Theres a special character/unique Phoenix called Ashtari. I think its the mount for Caradryan

The Flamespyre kit can build a foot version of an anointed of Asuryan

Lothern Skycutters
3 variants: Eagle eye bolt thrower, trio of Lothern Sea Guard, or mount for new character type Sea Helm. They are pulled by a Swiftfeather Roc, which is a huge giant eagle.

Maidenguard are rares with magical flaming bows. They have the wychfire special rule (lets hope its not like DoC). They are not handmaidens!

Handmaidens are now new character option in hero

Shadow Warriors are still special and still have the skirmish rule

Mat Ward is the author of Warhammer High Elves new army book!Source #2

Units got the ASF rule still, but nothing about it overruling normal rules, so swordmasters and white lions will strike on ini, but no rerolls

Swordmasters got a 6+ ward against non-magical ranged attacks

Shield of saphery is lore attribute

4 other spells are Drain magic (signitaure), soul quench (also says signitaure.....), aptothesis and hand of glory. Text is very small, so hard to make out what it says, but I think soul quench is a magic missile with 2d6 str 4 hits on 8+, can be boosted to 4d6 hits on a 16+. Hand of glory is a reversed miasma. Boost either ws, bs, move or ini by d3 on a 5+, can be boosted (seems damn good). The other 2 I can't make out, nor the lore attribute

In the battlerepport, Matt Hutson is using an annonited of Asuryan (dunno if that's a fancy name for a prince or if he's got some special abbilities) and a loremaster.
Heroes are a dragon mage wearing a dragon armour (ooooh yeah) with a gem of sunfire, as well as a level 2 with Khain's ring of fury

Oh and seems the BSB that's pictured isn't an individual pack, but can be assembled from the Lothern skycutter if you don't use one of the options

Will write more when I've had time to read the repport

edit: Forgot, the swordmasters are carrying the banner of the world dragon in the repport

edit edit: Phoenixes are affected by the winds of magic rolls in some way (he got a 4+ ward in the first turn) and can ressurect on a 6 if it's killed, leaving a marker where it died (he got it straigth away, so dunno if you leave the marker in place or if you only get one shot at it). Not much about the magic bow ladies, but in the afterbattle thoughts, Andrew kenrick (I think his name is) remarks on flaming shots, guessing they might be magical and flaming, but this is purely guesswork on my part. Seems it also got a "wake of fire rule" causing damage to units it moves over (makes sense I guess)

Handmaiden of avelorn is out, as is a new everqueen model, but you already knew that Nothing on wheter the handmaid is a character or not

Valor of ages is in, but nothing about what it does

Units seem to have martial prowess as well, but nothing on that either

The first spell a dragon mage generates will always be flaming sword, so seems he can default to a fireball spell with the other one should he wish it. He recieves no + to dispel and has a +2 to cast spells from lore of fire (recklessness)

Lion chariot is still T4 and 4W and a 4+ save (makes me cry). Got stubborn (can't remember if it used to have this as I never used it)

Khaine's ring of fury seems to be a bound spell with a Magic Missile (no real surprise there I guess)

Oh and a uniforms and heraldry book is out along with the rest as well

HE in BR:
Frost Pheonix with lord on it
Loremaster
Dragon Mage with Dragon Armor

Core
8 SH
5 Ellyrian Reavers
16-20 Archers
32 Spear Elves

Special
20 Swordmasters with Banner of World Dragon
2xFlying Chariot with RBT

Rare
Fire Pheonix
2xRBT
10 Sisters of Avelorn

With this, I give us..

~150 for ea. flying Chariot
~220 ea for each Phoenix
~200 for the Lv.2 Loremaster (with very few items if any)
~200 for the Anointed of Asuryan (with very few items if any)
~160 for 10 sisters for 16ppm.

Of course, this is looking at only a +1 or -1 points change across all of our current KNOWN models. I'm also thinking Banner of World Dragon will be either: 50-point Banner, or 55-60 point banner specific to Sword Masters ala Flag of Blood Keep for Blood Knights.