I dont know about the rest of you but I am concerned that the public will reject all science and scientific authority based on the fiasco of 'climate science' and the exaggerated claims of doom we have heard for the last 20 years. This whole thing is going badly, with the CAGW alarmists becoming more strident even as their pipedreams are being demolished by reality.

I dont relish the thought of scientific breakthroughs being ignored by a disinterested public who simply state, "remember AGW?". It is really a shame that we dont seem to have a scientist with the stature of a Feynman to bring together the different disciplines and make sure the ethics of science are being followed. and of course, to take witchdoctors like Mann and Jones out to the woodshed for a good hiding.

Astute thread FTW............very compelling.The public has tired of the pronounced lack of accuracy in the AGW scientific community..................thats why there is zero actionable stuff going on in terms of public policy. No politician wants to touch it with a ten foot poll........a fact lost on the k00ks

no shit skooks. the public honestly thought there was solid science behind the doomsday scenarios. now that everything is falling apart people are distancing themselves as fast as they can. those damn voodoo climate scientists have spent much of the accumulated trust that science had in the bank.

I dont know about the rest of you but I am concerned that the public will reject all science and scientific authority based on the fiasco of 'climate science' and the exaggerated claims of doom we have heard for the last 20 years. This whole thing is going badly, with the CAGW alarmists becoming more strident even as their pipedreams are being demolished by reality.

I dont relish the thought of scientific breakthroughs being ignored by a disinterested public who simply state, "remember AGW?". It is really a shame that we dont seem to have a scientist with the stature of a Feynman to bring together the different disciplines and make sure the ethics of science are being followed. and of course, to take witchdoctors like Mann and Jones out to the woodshed for a good hiding.

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Being totally wrong has not hurt the rwingers much.
Well from their point of view anyway

What are we seeing today? Business as normal? Very strong La Nina, and all we get is a slightly cool winter. With huge amounts of snow. A series of precipitation events. And now the central USA is flooded, the southwest is burning up. And we have had a few tornados. In the same 12 months that Russia had a record heat wave that destroyed 40% of their grain crops. The same year that Pakistan's crops for the year were all but wiped out. The same 12 month period that saw 1/4 of the Australian continent flooded.

Surely nothing unusual going on, correct?

The bogus science is on the denier side. Otherwise they would have more scientists on their side. And at least a few scientific societies, a National Academy of Science, at least from Outer Slobovia. pushing their case.

Simple truth, the scientists are not confirming you fellows wishes as to the "way things oughter be", and so you reject them and lie about their honesty. Hell, it's only your children, and grandchildren, whose lives you are screwing up.

Rocks, is there anything going on today with regard to climate that is outside of the boundries of natural variability? Is there anything even approaching the boundries of natural variability? Is there anything that can be accurately labeled unprecedented?

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