Sadly the person they're quoting is real who's fallen off so far into the deep end of woo it's saddening. He's a quack and people shouldn't take
what he says at face value.

He may well be a real guy - but I was just pointing out that we should not be using that particular website that;

Waterford Whispers News uses invented names in all its stories, except in cases when public figures are being satirized. Any other use of real
names is accidental and coincidental.

Those quotes may be complete satire, or taken out of context, or maybe even close to the guys senility? But it's surprising how many people get
taken in by these websites. What's worse is people believe and perpetuate the bulltish as facts when ats prides itself on being against that stuff.

Kind of sad though about this Dr. Amit Goswami, but he kind of has a point that quantum physics is pretty out there. But that glosses over how much
has been discovered and understood, even if they don't fully quite know the why or how the fact remains that some basic quantum computers have been
built.

Could our manipulations with the Quantum at CERN and other place screw up reality? What I am asking is since we don't know exactly what might happen
with all these tests could one of them trigger an event in the quantum that might destabilize current physical realities? For instance what if
something we did made gravity in the entire universe BURP for a moment. Planets would fly off their paths if not fall apart for a moment. All matter
might become unglued for a moment.

Even worse what if it cause some sort of chain reaction in the quantum similar to a nuclear reaction. They admit spooky action at a distance so
something we do locally could have ramifications through the entire universe could it not?

When I drop poison in a pond, the fish die. The first person who dropped poison in a pond did not know it was poison but the fish did die.

But if what you say is true then Neil Degrasse Tyson is a godamn liar and a fraudster of the highest order. Surely it would have been no trouble to
credit Bohr and explain an electron can act both as a particle and a wave, unless that is contested?

Its pretty much a standard human reaction to fear the unknown but without a working understanding of how our universe functions whats the point of our
science and technology? Machines such as the LHC are an obvious requirement to further our understanding of particle physics.

Possible generation of Strangelets and mini/micro black holes aside humanity will always feel the need to further our knowledge regarding our reality.
If "They" were not actively pursuing this type of technology openly at CERN it would simply be done in some-other black budget facility most lightly
with less or even no regard for the safety concerns that go hand in hand with the operation of such a machine.

originally posted by: Xeven
Could our manipulations with the Quantum at CERN and other place screw up reality? What I am asking is since we don't know exactly what might happen
with all these tests could one of them trigger an event in the quantum that might destabilize current physical realities? For instance what if
something we did made gravity in the entire universe BURP for a moment. Planets would fly off their paths if not fall apart for a moment. All matter
might become unglued for a moment.

Even worse what if it cause some sort of chain reaction in the quantum similar to a nuclear reaction. They admit spooky action at a distance so
something we do locally could have ramifications through the entire universe could it not?

When I drop poison in a pond, the fish die. The first person who dropped poison in a pond did not know it was poison but the fish did die.

I think we should be much more careful.

Good ques, but imo reality does get messed up only if you play with time itself and at cern, they are
not altering time in any way, so at least cern is safe as far as our reality is concerned.

originally posted by: Dabrazzo
But if what you say is true then Neil Degrasse Tyson is a godamn liar and a fraudster of the highest order. Surely it would have been no trouble to
credit Bohr and explain an electron can act both as a particle and a wave, unless that is contested?

(*shrugs*).

Maybe there's a simpler explanation. There are plenty of reasons which could explain why Neil omitted the info. Maybe the show producer told Neil to
stay concise, and omit the gradient wave functions part. Maybe someone wrote the script for Neil, employing Neil as nothing but a high-profile actor.
Maybe Neil himself was not aware of this particuliar atomic electron transition information - even physicists can forget things.

In any cases, it hardly matters - scientific models are there for a reason, one need only to check them out for oneself.

Particles with much higher speed collide with our atmosphere with much higher force on a regular basis. The universe hasn't unraveled yet.

That's something most people don't get about the LHC. It isn't doing anything novel. It's simply recreating processes that already occur in a
laboratory setting.

Absolutely, 1 TeV protons hit our upper atmosphere all the time, at a reasonably high rate also, but the energy spectrum spreads right out to 10^20 eV
(1TeV is 10^12) which is why all this stuff regarding blackholes and the universe unravelling is just so so so wrong. It is like we have proved just
through observation of nature that nothing bad is happening at those energies, yet no one cares to see that.

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