Not sure how people with mares to breed will see him......but when they told me what they turned down for him after last weeks elim.....Somebody thinks they will......He is a freak and a freakishly fast one

He is just a fast trotter who races against slower trotters. He is not Hambo eligible. There were all sorts of track records at Pcd last night as the conditions were perfect. As for him being a "freak", you must be referring to a horse who is "unusual". There is little unusual about one of the trotters winding up well above the others - this happens more often than not. Deweycheatumnhowe, Donato Hanover, Muscle Hill are just some recent examples.

My guess is if they stay with Callahan it will be costly at some point, same as it was for Somebeachsomewhere with MacDonnel.

He is just a fast trotter who races against slower trotters. He is not Hambo eligible. There were all sorts of track records at Pcd last night as the conditions were perfect. As for him being a "freak", you must be referring to a horse who is "unusual". There is little unusual about one of the trotters winding up well above the others - this happens more often than not. Deweycheatumnhowe, Donato Hanover, Muscle Hill are just some recent examples.

My guess is if they stay with Callahan it will be costly at some point, same as it was for Somebeachsomewhere with MacDonnel.

dolfan, don't you find it unusual that this horse is by cams rocket who was bred to pace? if I'm not mistaken the trotters that you named were bred to trot. Ive seen many trotting sired horses who pace. the speedy crown sired free=legged pacer rowdy yankee was one of the most beautiful horses to watch but rarely can a pacing sired horse trot at any where near the speed of this freak. its your definition I'm using that, it must be unusual to be consider a freak. he's unusual allright. you havent seen very many like him.

He is just a fast trotter who races against slower trotters. He is not Hambo eligible. There were all sorts of track records at Pcd last night as the conditions were perfect. As for him being a "freak", you must be referring to a horse who is "unusual". There is little unusual about one of the trotters winding up well above the others - this happens more often than not. Deweycheatumnhowe, Donato Hanover, Muscle Hill are just some recent examples.

My guess is if they stay with Callahan it will be costly at some point, same as it was for Somebeachsomewhere with MacDonnel.

Are you just trying to create controversy?

The horse is an absolute freak of nature in every regard. hE Is A reaLLY GuD hoRSe, MMMmmKaY.

As for Callahan he is capable and as long as he dont get himself intimidated this horse will do all the talking.

He is just a fast trotter who races against slower trotters. He is not Hambo eligible. There were all sorts of track records at Pcd last night as the conditions were perfect. As for him being a "freak", you must be referring to a horse who is "unusual". There is little unusual about one of the trotters winding up well above the others - this happens more often than not. Deweycheatumnhowe, Donato Hanover, Muscle Hill are just some recent examples.

My guess is if they stay with Callahan it will be costly at some point, same as it was for Somebeachsomewhere with MacDonnel.

sorry Dolfan--the fact that he is out of a $1200 mare and his sire was a nobody pacer--and they produced a trotter that just broke the world record for all ages over a 5/8ths--and you are saying that isnt a freak?

well--you are entitled to your opinion even though you are way wrong here-the horse is a freak of nature

I'm not trying to create any controversy or knock Cory Callahan & yes, I do agree that it isn't typical to find pacing bred trotters.

I assume then that any standardbred who can pace or trot fast enough to win pari-mutuel races "freaks" too. There have been a few handful of those.

I'm not rooting against the horse, although the way 3WW rains on others' parades it is tempting. Just kidding 3WW - I still love you but we all know you could never pull the lever for that man - I don't care how much you threaten...

Since he is not eligible for the Hambo, can they supplement into it?

The Callahan thing: My personal opinion is & always was, use the best for the best & throw loyalty out the window. I'm a very loyal person but this is a once in a lifetime horse & I'd have called Brian Sears several times by now.

I do really feel that the posters here have gotten carried away with the times of these races & are using phrases like "I've never seen one better" a bit too often. What you mean is they're all going faster than ever due to the bikes, the racing surfaces, the vets - whatever. We've all seen champion horses win by 5 one week & not look so champion-like the next week. Like Sweet Lou, who was easily better than Niatross, Cam Fella, Albatross... until last week when he finished 4th.

haughton had a chestnut horse that had 2 sets of papers (speedy romeo maybe??) cause he'd race both on the trot and pace. believe he took sub 2 minute marks on both gaits.

zootsuit was by nevele pride out of a pacing mare glad rags and came within a neck of winning the hambo.

many of the great french horses that came here were not allowed to be listed as standardreds but rather were listed as a seperate breed called "french trotters"

Battlin Barry another Hans (Roger) horse here in Maryland has raced as a trotter and a pacer within the last year or so. Horsemanship never been an issue in MD. 6 tracks within an hour of the state with alternative gambling as MD sat like dummies has been one.

Shameful. So even when Yonkers Trot gets the big dog it is still a nothing race. Too bad. The hits for the sport keep on coming, either from management or from horsemen.

There is a $10,000.00 starters fee for an elimination and then for a final. So if there was an elimination you'd be out $20,000 just to start hypothetically. Then there is the issue that 7 and 8 holes at Yonkers are a death sentence.Then there is the fact that between Goo and Stormin Normand that's probably 75% of the purse eaten up right there. So I understand it somewhat.

I am a little disappointed since I am going up for the race that it isn't going to be very competitive. But it will still be a thrill to see him in person and in a triple crown race.

There is a $10,000.00 starters fee for an elimination and then for a final. So if there was an elimination you'd be out $20,000 just to start hypothetically. Then there is the issue that 7 and 8 holes at Yonkers are a death sentence.Then there is the fact that between Goo and Stormin Normand that's probably 75% of the purse eaten up right there. So I understand it somewhat.

I am a little disappointed since I am going up for the race that it isn't going to be very competitive. But it will still be a thrill to see him in person and in a triple crown race.

Well, you couldn't be out $20,000 because you would have earned some purse money by qualifying but I know what you're saying. If everyone just throws in the towel why bother to run the race or better yet, why are there always the maximum starters for the KY Derby? Because you've got to be in it to win it!

Anyway, have fun seeing him in person. Let me know if he does indeed have 4 legs, 2 ears...