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Anonymous said...

This sounds and looks like a covert investigation gone south! How did they get a picture of 1 of the offenders in the drivers seat of the vehicle? Was someone wearing a hidden camera? What aren't they saying! How fast can a 50 year old man let alone (offender 2) woman run once they crashed? If they made it past a block without collapsing I'll be a monkeys uncle! I would expect this from CPD Detectives but not the FBI!

Hey SCC, why no coverage on the shooting/car crash in Jefferson Park the morning of March 22. The news called it a road rage incident but something doesn't sound right. Not much info was given about the whole incident and what was said seems more like an intended hit than road rage. Any info?

1 Comment - Show Original Post1 – 1 of 1 Anonymous said...This sounds and looks like a covert investigation gone south! How did they get a picture of 1 of the offenders in the drivers seat of the vehicle? Was someone wearing a hidden camera? What aren't they saying! How fast can a 50 year old man let alone (offender 2) woman run once they crashed? If they made it past a block without collapsing I'll be a monkeys uncle! I would expect this from CPD Detectives but not the FBI!

3/26/2013 02:46:00 AMWhoever wrote the above post should have signed it I am bitter, because I am not smart enough to be a detective.

I would not read into the event. I would not be surprised to learn this was an attempt [armed??] robbery-gone-bad with the agent shooting the bad guy. If so, I say good job... As a fed (not FBI), I worked at the FBI building down the street from there off and on and I often got food over at that shopping center (See-Through Chinese...) There were always a few shit-heads walking around there.

And yes, we get a 24 hr cool-off period before giving a statement after a shooting. However, as a former CPD copper, I'd be more likely to give a statement to police sooner. My agency (not the FBI) defers to whatever local jurisdiction the shooting occurs in to conduct the follow-up.

Also, don't hate the feds, unless you've been unfairly targeted in an investigation. Several of us were coppers before joining the "dark side" and we all have a job to do. You usually get the attitude from the feds who were never the police and never held a real job. Those of us who were the police get the same attitude from them. Mostly because they are jealous that we actually have real experience...

Camera footage from the corner cameras of the 600 S Paulina building showed him about 100 feet from the crash site when it happened.

I want to know this dudes background...He Ran TOWARD trouble without hesitation.

Got to give the mouth breather credit...actually kept people clear from the M1 that remained at the scene, and was redirecting traffic away from the crash site until CPD got to the scene to handle it with the Fed's.

Also, don't hate the feds, unless you've been unfairly targeted in an investigation. Several of us were coppers before joining the "dark side" and we all have a job to do. You usually get the attitude from the feds who were never the police and never held a real job. Those of us who were the police get the same attitude from them. Mostly because they are jealous that we actually have real experience...

3/27/2013 12:12:00 AM

It's not hate, but rather disappointment in some of you "former coppers." Take this city's cops and compare their shootings with that of the Feds. I'll bet our involved shootings dwarf yours. When we witness WACO, Ruby Ridge, Det. Airhart (apologies if misspelled) that's enough for us to question your incompetence. Nevertheless, not here to throw stones, but let's see how many Oath Keepers you have within your group(s). Will you stand by your oath? This second amendment battle will show your true colors. Are you red, white, and blue? Or, are you yellow?

"It's not hate, but rather disappointment in some of you "former coppers." Take this city's cops and compare their shootings with that of the Feds. I'll bet our involved shootings dwarf yours."

You're right to a point. I was in one shooting (on CPD) where I fired and a few others where others fired and I didn't. I often point out to my fed coworkers that the things we do regularly are nothing like being the police in a bad area. We do, however, have our moments.

We also work for a living, just like you. I feed my family and pay my bills, just like you do, with my federal job. Most people who spout bravado are immature and full of shit and their opinions don't really matter to me.

Keep in mind that there are over 100 different federal agencies with law enforcement components, many of which you might not know exist. Waco, Ruby Ridge and Joe Airhart all involved the big name agencies you hear about on the news.

Don't absorb all the rhetoric you hear about how the feds are coming to take your guns. Don't confuse politicians and their agendas with working law enforcement officers, federal or otherwise. We're all Americans and we all are concerned with having our rights diminished, just like you.

I have personally written my state and federal elected officials on several occasions in the past year to express my negative opinion on over-reaching gun legislation that punishes law-abiding citizens and does nothing to reduce crime. Rather than just bad-mouthing federal agents on a blog, how many times have you written your elected officials?