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Freedom of speech is essential. Censorship is inconsistent with freedom of speech. Members of the press, who would bemoan censorship of their speech, make a mockery of freedom of speech, when those media types censor the speech of others. Naturally such media types merit a certain degree of respect, for their level of commitment to freedom of speech. Such respect is best measured in millimicrons.

If wishing could make it so. Sorry, INTIM, but the next “nail you hit squarely on the head” will be the first nail you’ve ever come close to touching. You are a “voice crying in the wilderness”, which is exactly where your silly exaggerations belong.

I don’t think very many people expected Obama to fix all the ills of the world, other than his most fanatical devotees. The rest of us were genuinely hoping he might correct some of what wasn’t working, and continue or improve on all that was working pretty well. What we’ve seen thus far, is an attempt to change what for generations has proven to be an American dream, and morph it into what has repeated as a series of European failures.

History has repeated shown that socialism may work well in very small collectives or groups, for a short period of time, but invariably as the collective grows to only marginably larger populations, it doesn’t work anyway near as well, except for those who have seized political power and are in charge of exactly how, and to whom, resources are shared and distributed.

You may recall our earliest days were spent under a benevolent monarch, who labored under the strain of deciding just what was, really good, for his subjects, but who also decided on what was not good, or allowable and just how much “happiness” was sufficient to satisfy his subjects. Benevolent Monarch, or benevolent bureauocracy, really not much difference when the judgments as to what’s good for each of us and what “fruits” of whose labor is distributed is made by a 3rd party, who answers to nobody.

I’m afraid no system is perfect, but on a side by side comparison, Capitalism seems to have a proven track record of providing far better individual rewards than anything else we’ve tried thus far.

It may surprise you, but those “ignorant voters” you frequently complain about may not be as stupid or dense as you think. They can make mistakes, in either direction, but most are competent to realize when they’ve been sold a “bill of goods” and understand the process of returning defective merchandise.

For the record, the reason you “choose” not to respond to the many challenges directed at you to substantiate your wild rantings, is simply because you are not competent to do so. Whether that is due to your inability to respond, or the sheer ridiculousness of your exaggerated positions, really doesn’t make much difference.

AlbertJ – If all you have to offer is denigrating innuendo against the messengers of the truth, in your defense of the corporatist system that has concentrated so much wealth in the pockets of so few, then you have proven the contention that the Right (political tool of corporatism) has not the best interests of the country in their overall plans. The full court press they have mounted against the current administration, at a time when we should be getting behind our elected leader to fix the problems caused by the laissez-faire, socialism for the rich policies of the Cheney/Bush Fraudulency, has become so obvious for what it is, it is little wonder that shills for the corporate liars aren’t figuratively tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail. Your efforts to paint a smiley face of reasonableness on the face of a blatant criminal activity, is recognized for what it is, as is the character of the person carrying out the deed, as is your delving into doctrinaire myth and slogans to make your case. Capitalism is a compilation of the rules of economic behavior that were made-up over time to justify the wealth driven elitist oligarchy we have become. Any system that denies our Humanity is flawed and needs to be reformulated, because right now, it is only serving the long term needs of a very small, manipulative, self-serving group of greedy SOBs who obviously don’t care about anything but their bottom line. Watching how this oil mess in the Gulf plays out will hopefully be a lesson that will wake the generally clueless voter to the truth, unless people like you can continue to con the general public. The enemy of my enemy is truth, and we are going to bring that weapon into play no matter how you may try to twist it into a perceived untruth, in-order to fool the majority once again.

“If all you have to offer is denigrating innuendo…” Projected ik, after ik refused to response to requests, from open minded individuals, for documentation of the “truths” “known” to ik. Why ik would refuse to provide the documentation; which would prove his assertions, when the lack of such proof subjects him to justifiable incredulity; can be understood only if such documentation does not exist.

Educating potential voters to the truth, whether they be those you consider clueless, or those you believe are elite is certainly a laudable goal, INTIM. The problem is who might be defining what is the “Truth”.

You consistently choose to make outlandish presumptions and assumptions about the motivations of people who don’t share your positions, and routinely demonize and insult anyone who dares challenge your assertions. You consistently denigrate differing perceptions with wild exaggerations that you NEVER As in EVER) bother to substantiate.

When your observations are challenged, directly or in general, you refuse to provide any and all back up to support your conclusions, accusations or observances and actually criticise and condemn the right of anyone to challenge you. Most, if not all, your grand allegations are based on your extrapolation of reality so far beyond any reasonable context to artificially inflate your assessment, and defame entire professions, enormous groupings of individuals far removed from the subject of your ire, that your observations become totally wothless, and often blatantly silly.

Is it “Truth” you’re after, or the pleasure and joy of deeming yourself the inquisitor? You blast Capitalism as the, “system that denies our Humanity is flawed and needs to be reformulated, because right now, it is only serving the long term needs of a very small, manipulative, self-serving group of greedy SOBs who obviously don’t care about anything but their bottom line”, yet the reality of the situation shows that Capitalism has provided a higher standard of living and individual personal success to countless MORE people than any other system devised by man.

As the calamity in the Gulf plays out, and more details become known it does appear likely that bad, perhaps self serving, decisions made for the wrong reasons at critical points leading up to the eventual break down may well be responsible for the severity of the problem. It appears, as should have been expected, that these may well have been individual decisions made to protect individual opportunites rather than a grand conspiracy. It may also be proven by the final analysis, that some of these decisions were simply mistakes, made with the best, but simply wrong, intentions.

Responsibility will eventually be sorted out factually and premature judgments and leaping to conclusions, based on pure speculation, assumption and a heavy dose of misinformation only serves to obfuscate the truth, not expose it.

Although making such grand and damning charges, without bothering to develop any substantiation, and allegations does provide opportunity for demonstrating great pomposity and exaggerated self importance.

“Truth” is most certainly something worth sharing, but only when it is real and honest, rather than contrived and exaggerated to try and make the messenger sound important. Truth can only be found when the search includes honest consideration of ALL the possibilities, rather than being restricted to one narrow sliver of only those possibilities pre-favored by the one searching.

AlbertJ, I also like to research some comments I read in this blog. Not long ago, I searched on “Cheney Puppeted Bush Regime” and found our favorite truth sooth writing the same commentary in many other blogs under different names. For this one I checked out Cheney/Bush Fraudulency and, clicko – zappo, was directed to Cynthia Tucker’s blog. Read under the “Robert Littel” by-line.

AlbertJ – It has already been well established that your function in these blogs is to mute the voices calling out for an accounting by the monied forces trying to turn this country into their own little kingdom, with our perceived political institutions little more than political theatre for the rest of us, to be used by them when they can use it, or blamed when they cannot. The public, of course, cannot be let in on the fact they are being conned, or that would end the sting operation and possibly hand control back to the people through actual elected (not corporate purchased) elected officials. Your job may just become more difficult considering the vote yesterday was illustrative that the populist rage, supposedly being created by corporate shills founding and funding the Tea Party rubbish, is not coming from the Right, but from people who seem intent on pushing corporatist owned candidates out of office, no matter which party label they are wearing. The electorate has been lied to so much by especially the Right, that the backlash spurned on by truths that are coming out despite your best efforts to trowel a layer of, lets take it slow and listen to all the well crafted lies and webs of deceit the corporations will have time to concoct to avoid responsibility.

As to the greedy SOBs exercising so much control over us, how do you think that 1/2 of all the wealth in the country ended up in the pockets of about 4000 individuals, how to you think so many politicians (virtually all of the Republicans and a good number of the Democrats) ended up in the pockets of corporations? How do you think that the corporate hand dips so easily and frequently into the public till and then constructs the laws and regulations that govern their own actions? The proof and substantiation you are demanding is already laying at your feet. Your only function, considering you take no direct stand that can be assailed about anything, is to kick as much dirt over that evidence and to silence through badgering and innuendo anyone who dares to kick that dirt aside, no matter who it is.

Here ye, Here ye, IKTIM now calls the IKTIM Court of the Allknowing is now in order… Albert J, in light of the fact that the jury (me) believes the prosecution (me)I, IKTIM, finds that It has already been well established (in my mind) “that your function in these blogs is to mute the voices calling out for an accounting by the monied forces trying to turn this country into their own little kingdom, with our perceived political institutions little more than political theatre for the rest of us, to be used by them when they can use it, or blamed when they cannot.” Therefor, you are hereby punished to continued mind numb hatefilled biggotted rulings and verbal lashings from this court as long as you attempt to speak your mind…

Mitch Rapp (aka silverbrunogate 2008) – The two of you (AlbertJ)have been trying your best to paint any criticism of what is CLEARLY becoming evident is the concentration of wealth in very few hands (established fact) through corporate manipulation and control of our government and our economic institutions, all for their own continuing benefit. That you both have taken on the tactic, having no way to refute the truth, of personally denigrating me is to be expected. I can understand this because as long as the abuse of our country by the forces of obscene wealth continues, you will not shut me (and others) up. Painting me as a wild-eyed radical may play well with the rubes, but it does not play well with people who actually give a damn about what we, as a country, are supposed to represent and who are becoming aware of what those you support, are doing to it. Your job, and I say that believing that you (both of you) are here as part of a job, is to keep the lid on the boiling pot from blowing off. You can’t admit the truth, you can’t allow the truth to be accepted, and you can’t allow the masses to wake up to the truth, so what option do you have, but to destroy the messenger.

The current events in the Gulf are going to expose the warts in the system just by watching how hard the corporatists are going to bend the system to cut their liability. Your (as in the obvious corporatist supporters) frantic efforts to smooth the waves that are forming, are not going to be effective because the disaster is too great to hide all of the variables that will show how badly our system has been corrupted in service to the greed at the top. Things are about to unravel and your best efforts to silence the opposition are not going to be enough to keep the con going, the jig is up.

What is truly amazing, INTIM, is the degree of pure egotisim in your suggestion that anyone could possible care whether you “be silenced” or not. Your own words are, far and away, the most eloquent example of what an unmitigated blow hard you are and how exaggerated your conspitatorial nonsense is.

I’m afraid your unwillingness, due to obvious inability, to defend your blanket accusations, on any of the matters you care to opine about. I do not consider you a “wild eyed radical” at all, rather I am convinced you are simply a loud mouth who craves attention, and failing to garner any support for your “observations”, mistakenly believe that being loud and obnoxious will persuade others to accept your ideas.

Please share your ideas and your assessments and conclusions, they serve as excellent examples of where a “Ready-FIRE-aim” strategy inevitably leads.

#41. Slow down you never told me how I was trying to paint as… you said I was painting, but not how or why…. and don’t tell me I am corpritist, I have ZERO in the market as I see it blowing up in next few weeks… BIG TIME. I hate hate, and hate hateful blamers more. My prism of disgust is rather narrow, in that sense, you are most special.

AlbertJ & Mitch (silverbrunogate2008) Rapp – The only thing you hate is being found out. Not being able to keep up the sham much longer, the painting of those speaking out against OBVIOUS manipulation of our entire system for the benefit of the few, has to be construed as not being credible. No con can exist for very long if the victims start figuring out why, and who, is conning them. Corporate America and their class A beneficiaries, have been playing a game with the health and well-being of the nation ever since the first toxic barrel of waste needed a place to be dumped, that would maximize their ability not to have to pay for its disposal. Government regulation of industry abuses has been fighting an uphill battle, resisted at every turn, just to make the water we drink, the air we breath and the food we eat, safe enough to not kill us. The recent fines at Norlite for their many toxic releases (and considering when they were done, seemingly deliberately), it is evident that our government is either not doing their job, or that the government has been corrupted by the on-going battle for the few to enrich themselves at the cost of exposing the many to dangers that no effective government should ever allow.

There are things so horrible that have been done, that they have been hidden for years because of the impact their disclosure will cause. The PCB laden oil that they used to dump into our rivers, has also ended up being sprayed over formerly dirt roads (as a dust suppressant) that used to span our rural areas, and once some detailed studies are done, the level of PCBs along these roads (and leached into ground water)will make the cleanup of the Hudson look like a picnic by comparison. This information is being shuffled off as if it never happened in the hopes that the problem will just go away, or until corporate control is so complete that the totally owned government will never take appropriate action. There is a war going on, and we are on opposite sides. Your side has a highly financed propaganda machine working for it, many of our ‘elected’ officials working for it, a focused battering ram of blowhards (Beck, Limbaugh, FOX) working for it, and not to ignore the pesky individuals who may make trouble, a cadre of people just like you to smooth over any rough spots that may show up, by making our contributions seem beyond belief. Like I said before, the problems are becoming too large to ignore, too big to hide and too terrible to tolerate. The jig is up and you are starting to know it.

We cannot be on opposite sides of a war, as we are not on the same planet,living in the same reality.

History shows that the bell curve principle is spot on. Some folks are good, some are bad, some are amazing, some are diobolical… This nation was built by exploiting the land, people, etc… All nations were. It is human nature, which I must inform you, does evolve, does get better…

You keep fighting your fight, you and your army of one, me and my side, my wife and kids, we’ll go about our lives, try to be good, try to make our little world a better place through ACTION, DEEDS and gulp thoughtful prayer… and you, keep tilting at windmills and walking the blogs with your doomsday sandwhich boards…. blaming everyone in sight except the image in the mirror… How you do not believe in God or a higher power I will never know as you, knowing how you know what lies in every persons heart and soul, truly have a GODLIKE image of yourself….

Mitch Rapp (aka silverbrunogate2008) – And yet you still persist in your deceptive con. Playing to the emotional side of the issues that resonate with the accepted societal myths because you dare not refute what you know to be the truth, as that truth would then be exposed. You hide behind your supposed moral superiority in one breath and in the next dismiss the principles of those beliefs by pointing out that our exploitative greedy rapacious species behavior is natural and should be exploited, rather than achieving goals your religion espouses, but are only manifested in the aspirations of the side you wish to crush. And, as always, the last refuge of the truly desperate, a blatant personal attack meant to do what I have alleged all along, to kill the messenger because that is the only way to stop the message from taking hold.

The way the Gulf crisis is going to play out will be the determining factor in who is correct and who is wrong, who is holding the ethical high ground and who is wallowing in feigned moral indignation, in a manipulative effort to put the final screws to what we are as a nation. Frankly, I would hate to be sitting there holding the cards you have been dealt, because we (the American people)are going to call your bluff.

#46. Let’s see your petition there zippy. If your views represent more than .005% of the population, I would be shocked. Remember these facts; you call for curbing world population through drastic measures, you mock kids on the internet for askig about higher powers, you defame without regard, and your propensity for fecal related topics — geez, who would stand with you?… I am sure any entries would be filled by hollow, souless, pompous folks filled with contempt for the average man on the street, in the pews, on the prayer rug… whose collective redeeming qaulity is that they tend not to spawn. No, unfortunately for you, I have been running software upgrades at work, doing other mindnumbing tasks on my own time to keep the machine @ SBG08 Enterprises chugging along, and have the time to sit here and spew…lucky you, you have your most desired wish… attention….

Mitch Rapp (aka silverbrunogate2008) If I was truly just looking for attention, as you allege, I would be here under my given name. I’m here to point out when the Right-wing lies, which is starting to become a full time occupation. I stand by my perceptions as to why you are here and the nature of those to whom you seem to owe allegiance. I will discuss the issues with you, but we all are starting to figure out that issues are the last thing you wish to have discussed. Why your last post somehow met John’s standards and my response to it did not, is puzzling, because my response was not the blatant, out of context, distortion of character, exhibited in what I must assume, was a desperate attempt at character assassination because you have nothing else that will work, like addressing the issues of the thread.

#38. Try JDr on the weekends, much lower bar. As for the topic of the thread, I wholeheartedly admit I could not for the life of me figure out the editorial cartoon offered by JDR… So you got me there.

#51. I got that 110%, and agree…. I just did not get the oil splat and on the hands thing… believe me, I have issues deciphering things, so it is not an insult… pretty much an A to B thinker… if you could consider me a thinker…

Reep, before the teach tells me what the oil splat means, you tell me?
Hope all is good for you… my Q was about the splat…. I fully comprehended the title and the words… just thought there was more I was missing… ya know…?

#56. Thanks man! I thought it was a manifestation of Hillary Clinton or another one of those evil Progressives! Lol. I see it now, plain as day. Put a DUH in my column. Perhaps you could add cliffnotes for folks like me… they got me through college… (an open opportunity awaits IKTIM)