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Fiddlerman said
@Demoiselle - If I were to try to switch sides playing the violin it would feel horrendous because I am used to bowing with my right hand and fingering with my left. Anything anyone does one way from the beginning will feel strange to change.
There are chores that I do with one hand and not the other, then switch to give the other hand a break. Those chores feel restricted using the untrained hand.

Exactly my issue on trombone. I could be a much better trombone player if I changed to a trombone designed for left-handed players. But I play trombone since 1976, performed as a jazz player a lot in the 80s and 90s and starting from scratch now would be "horrendous" like you say. I rather start on violin and start right there. It would also be a bit "horrendous" to change after 3 years from bowing left to right. But it would be useless anyhow, I better accept and follow my nature. We can neither rewire homosexuals, nor left-handed people. They tried it by force in the past which was very cruel and wrong.

]]>Wed, 23 May 2018 19:32:13 -0400Fiddlerman on My Journey with My Violin Since May 1716.https://fiddlerman.com/forum/share-a-video/my-journey-with-my-violin-since-may-1716/page-16/#p91759
Share a videohttps://fiddlerman.com/forum/share-a-video/my-journey-with-my-violin-since-may-1716/page-16/#p91759@Demoiselle - If I were to try to switch sides playing the violin it would feel horrendous because I am used to bowing with my right hand and fingering with my left. Anything anyone does one way from the beginning will feel strange to change.
There are chores that I do with one hand and not the other, then switch to give the other hand a break. Those chores feel restricted using the untrained hand.
]]>Tue, 22 May 2018 13:51:09 -0400Demoiselle on My Journey with My Violin Since May 1716.https://fiddlerman.com/forum/share-a-video/my-journey-with-my-violin-since-may-1716/page-16/#p91743
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bluesviolin said
@Fiddlerman: thanks for the detailed info about left handed fiddles...very interesting, never would have thought about the peg issue.

I may be semi-ambidextrous. I do everything right handed except write on paper, but my left hand is better at playing violin than my bow hand. for the most part, my bow hand just follows my left hand around.

I neither use a violin designed for left-handed people, nor do I change my right-handed violin. I just grab my normal right-handed violin with my right hand and the bow with my left. The only downside is that fingering in the high range gets more difficult, because A and E string are far outside. The upside is easiness on G and D string because they are very close. Usually the home string of violin players seems to be rather the A string—in my case it's the D string. Classical violin players rarely touch their G string and if they do, it's rather single notes. I play all kinds of phrases, including scales, also on the G string in any musical piece. Usually I will visit the G string range at least once in a tune. And I like to involve the open G whenever it's harmonically possible. I love those deep notes anyhow.

3 years ago I also assumed the product line of left-handed violins to be rather limited when the shop suggested to buy such instrument. I see no reason to do that. It is no problem to bow with my left hand on a right handed violin. The curving of the bridge seems to be the wrong way then, an issue I pondered quite a lot in 2015, but I have no real problems with that. It is my right hand which struggles with fingering, especially if progressing to A string D and on the E string. It is an issue of longer leverage on far to reach strings of the 4th finger. I can do it, but my right hand tires soon. Staying on A or E string for a long time is a bad idea, I have to go back to my home string D timely. If I follow that rule I easily survive a slow or moderate (not fast!) tune for up to 3 minutes. None of my violin solos will be that long though in the future....

]]>Mon, 21 May 2018 04:40:46 -0400bluesviolin on My Journey with My Violin Since May 1716.https://fiddlerman.com/forum/share-a-video/my-journey-with-my-violin-since-may-1716/page-16/#p91740
Share a videohttps://fiddlerman.com/forum/share-a-video/my-journey-with-my-violin-since-may-1716/page-16/#p91740@Fiddlerman: thanks for the detailed info about left handed fiddles...very interesting, never would have thought about the peg issue.

I may be semi-ambidextrous. I do everything right handed except write on paper, but my left hand is better at playing violin than my bow hand. for the most part, my bow hand just follows my left hand around.

]]>Sun, 20 May 2018 21:03:35 -0400Demoiselle on My Journey with My Violin Since May 1716.https://fiddlerman.com/forum/share-a-video/my-journey-with-my-violin-since-may-1716/page-16/#p91735
Share a videohttps://fiddlerman.com/forum/share-a-video/my-journey-with-my-violin-since-may-1716/page-16/#p91735When starting school I was forced on writing with my right hand. I still do that, you can read it well, but I will never be able to develop a beautiful hand. Although I did work a lot on historical German handwriting since 2000. I focused on fast historical common writing and still write shopping lists etc. in Baroque-Current. Trying to write slow to approach calligraphic quality is useless. Knowing all this, I would NEVER let my right hand do the bowing!

Today I still have the habit, to change my pen to the left hand, whenever I have to add some drawing. I change even if I just draw a line, using a ruler. If the result is supposed to be clean I better change to the left. My father hated that changing and slapped my face whenever I did it. But it was so very much part of my nature that I got slapped a lot during math homework. How can you focus on changing a habit like that if someone constantly slaps all focus out of your brain?

Fiddlerman said
....You need two good hands.....

I have strong will power, but my extremities generally lack strength and stamina. It was always like that. That's why I constantly watch my condition while playing. Whenever my arms get tired I stop and pause for a while. I go and wash my dishes, then I go back to my violin. During the next pause I will dry those dishes or bring out garbage. There's always a reason to pause and get something else done.

I can only play the violin because I disempowered the old masters to be my own master. I make all decisions and whenever something seems to be hard, I will change it or put it off. Or I have one of my recorders play the theme and let the violin just improvise. Still I have issues with Vivaldi's WINTER part in the Four Seasons. Improvising over that puts too much pressure on me, there are dynamical and dramatic changes in this ingenious chord progression which tire me out too soon. You can't relax on a couple long notes there, you have to move. At least I can play the theme and let someone else do the break. In the break you really have to run, which would kill me within seconds. There is no way to use slower phrasing in it. But it's also rhythmical precision which causes me to run out of battery: if each note has to be exactly on point. There's no way to rhythmically delay something.

I see myself playing old Advent chorales and then sing them. After singing I can improvise one or two choruses. That's what I can do easily without running out of energy. Apart from Advent I collected lots of musical subjects which match my body's battery power. Like Johann Christoph Bach's beautiful "Mein Freund ist mein". Great for singing and improvising.

Some people are their own worst enemy. I'm very different in this matter. If I wouldn't treat myself right, who would? As a 'teacher' I know I will hardly find a student who will always give her best. More isn't possible and I respect that. Call it friendship and trust. I'm not gonna slap my own face and I will never put any pressure on myself. At least I'm a much better parent than my parents were.

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Demoiselle said

There's a huge difference in the quality of feeling and expression between my left and my right hand. My pet bird can tell, who runs away from my right hand because it's clumsier. Obviously a cuddle from my right hand is no fun to her. LOL

I guess I am one of those people who can train my left hand to do anything my right hand can do. I still consider myself right handed, but in reality, I am more ambidextrous than single handed.

I can even write left handed, and often do. Since I developed right wrist issues, about ten or so years ago, I switched to using the PC mouse with my left hand, and that means creating my art left handed too. It did not take long to get used to drawing digital art left handed. Now, it makes no difference what hand I use for the mouse, or digital drawing.

On speed challenge games, I am just as fast with my left hand as I am with my right.

My cat does seem to show some preference for me to pet her with my left hand though. She will accept being pet with either hand, but she most often reclines on my left side, while I am petting her.

Maybe I am really left handed, but never knew it, because I could use my right hand just fine. 😉

MACJR

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bluesviolin said
OK, thanks Mark & Demoiselle for the input and explanations. I understand it all much better now.

Nice sound from that 3/4 violin!

Thanks, yes I tried all the 3/4 violins in the shop in October 2015 and this one was the loudest, fullest and richest. That's what I explained to the store clerk and he fully agreed. Tricky may be the fact that my self-made clip-in bow is made of a beech rod. Beech is no typical bow material. But I'm attached to it and at least feel fine.

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Fiddlerman said
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Most left-hand violins are inexpensive instruments either meant to be sold as a niche violin or special request instruments. Some of the special request violins can be far more expensive. If a violinist loses their 3rd of 4th left-hand fingers they could still learn to play a left-hand violin without any issues what so ever. There is even the possibility to learn to bow with less or different fingers missing. .......................

There's a huge difference in the quality of feeling and expression between my left and my right hand. My pet bird can tell, who runs away from my right hand because it's clumsier. Obviously a cuddle from my right hand is no fun to her. LOL

I'm sure that my right hand would never reach the feeling of my left hand, I would sound worse. On the other hand my left hand is stronger as well, so there I could profit from more strength on the fingerboard side. I have to admit that I underestimated the strength needed for fingering when I started. Whenever I inform people that I now play the violin, they sound like, "Oh, that's very difficult, you need a good ear." I usually reply that you need awfully strong and persistent hands. My right hand tires soon and my left would absolutely do better. But my right also lacks feeling. Maybe some people with dominant left hands don't have such extreme difference and maybe some of them have almost equal hands. In my case the difference is very stark.

I still think, it's easier for my right hand to gain some more strength, than learning to express more beautifully. I can train the muscles, but if feeling is basically wired on the left side of my body I cannot change that. Nonetheless it's also impossible the meet the strength of my left hand via right hand. I did rapier fencing sport years ago and tried to get to equal hands: My right hand improved but it never became equal in precision, speed and strength.

The fact that my left hand is my bass hand is just a very old habit. I played Fats Waller style piano stride (jazz influenced by ragtime) since the 70s and here you need a very strong left hand. Here being left-handed resulted in having a very strong basic rhythm, which is an advantage. My stepmother often complained because I was drumming with my bare hands on my desk while listening to jazz. Here me left hand had mainly the part of the bass drum while the right was mainly the snare. They increasingly shifted and blended rhythmically the more I learned offbeat with shifting accents. But basically my left hand remained to be mainly the bass drum. That's why I would never accept a violin with G string on the right side. Trying to change decade old habits would be waste of time. I has been part of my system for a too long time and I had practiced it too often in piano and percussion.

]]>Sat, 19 May 2018 14:26:32 -0400Fiddlerman on My Journey with My Violin Since May 1716.https://fiddlerman.com/forum/share-a-video/my-journey-with-my-violin-since-may-1716/page-16/#p91712
Share a videohttps://fiddlerman.com/forum/share-a-video/my-journey-with-my-violin-since-may-1716/page-16/#p91712@bluesviolin - Left handed violins haven't been around all that long and are not common. They are available but perhaps more as a gimmick than a necessity. I am, or at least was, a professional violinist for most of my life and plenty of my colleagues were left handed. It wasn't even a question when you began playing. All violinists back in the day used the same instrument. You need two good hands and your dominant hand can be your fingering hand just as well as your bowing hand.

Most left-hand violins are inexpensive instruments either meant to be sold as a niche violin or special request instruments. Some of the special request violins can be far more expensive. If a violinist loses their 3rd of 4th left-hand fingers they could still learn to play a left-hand violin without any issues what so ever. There is even the possibility to learn to bow with less or different fingers missing.

You can't just simply alter a right-hand violin mostly because of the bass bar and the position of the pegs. The E-string peg is further towards the scroll so that the fingering hand won't clash with that peg so much, especially when vibrating.
So to alter a violin you would need to open it and move the bass bar to the treble side and after gluing the top back you would install a sound post on the bass side. Obviously, the bass side would now be the bass side but on the opposite side. LOL
Next you would probably want to reshape the fingerboard to lean down towards the new bass side and cut the bridge that way as well. You would also probably need to change the nut but at least alter it so that the lowest string is the E string which is the opposite of what it was. 🙂
With new unshaved pegs, you might be able to keep the holes but probably not, as you would have to ream them from the opposite direction. Most likely you would need to make bushings, drill holes big enough to start reaming with a peg hole reamer.

]]>Thu, 17 May 2018 21:17:54 -0400bluesviolin on My Journey with My Violin Since May 1716.https://fiddlerman.com/forum/share-a-video/my-journey-with-my-violin-since-may-1716/page-16/#p91644
Share a videohttps://fiddlerman.com/forum/share-a-video/my-journey-with-my-violin-since-may-1716/page-16/#p91644OK, thanks Mark & Demoiselle for the input and explanations. I understand it all much better now.

Nice sound from that 3/4 violin!

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bluesviolin said
@Demoiselle A. : I'm not very good with computers, but I can't seem to open any of the links to hear your playing. can you or anyone else advise me on this.

also, a couple of questions about your violin. was it just not possible to acquire a left handed fiddle, or have one set up for left handed? I don't know if a left handed set up is possible as the finger board is usually sloped downward somewhat to the treble side. where is your chin rest positioned? bass, middle or treble. or perhaps you do not use a chin rest? why did you go with something as small as 3/4?

wondering if anyone else on the forum has a left handed fiddle, or plays a right handed fiddle left handed as Demoiselle does.

I love a 3/4 and feel like it's perfect for me. Historical baroque violins where often very small (I don't mean modern baroque violins), especially the violins of maîtres à danser (baroque dancing masters). And as I have been doing baroque dancing for a long time, being my own choreographer, I tend to fall in love with small violins. Some male violin players have very large hands and use a full violin, so I don't see why a 3/4 instrument shouldn't be right for me.

I would frankly hate a violin for left handed players. I have been making music for many decades and the bass was always on the left side. It's part of my nature now, that the bass is never to the right, like on left-handed violins. It would only confuse me. There's no point which speaks against playing a right-handed violin left-handed if you're not a classical player.

]]>Thu, 10 May 2018 09:33:40 -0400Mark on My Journey with My Violin Since May 1716.https://fiddlerman.com/forum/share-a-video/my-journey-with-my-violin-since-may-1716/page-16/#p91629
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I play a right handed violin left handed, it stems from a accident I had at 10 years old with a table saw, I'm missing my index finger and limited movement in my middle and index finger so to note with my left hand is impossible. I started playing guitar shortly after the accident and the teacher I had, had my guitar set up left handed and thats how I learned to play. The issue being I go some where with out my guitar and I can't play I have never run into another left guitar player jamming, at 15 I was invited to play bass in a group and desided I would just turn it over and play it so any where I go I can play bass lots more right handed instruments to use than there are left handed ones, so following the same logic I just play a right handed fiddle left handed. So far just a few adjustments to make In my playing, but all in all not an issue to worry about I'm doing the same thing with the mandolin right handed instrument just played left handed that Big G chop chord is a real pain make backwards, have a ways to go before I'm proficient with that chord shape.

Mark

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Share a videohttps://fiddlerman.com/forum/share-a-video/my-journey-with-my-violin-since-may-1716/page-16/#p91628@Demoiselle A. : I'm not very good with computers, but I can't seem to open any of the links to hear your playing. can you or anyone else advise me on this.

also, a couple of questions about your violin. was it just not possible to acquire a left handed fiddle, or have one set up for left handed? I don't know if a left handed set up is possible as the finger board is usually sloped downward somewhat to the treble side. where is your chin rest positioned? bass, middle or treble. or perhaps you do not use a chin rest? why did you go with something as small as 3/4?

wondering if anyone else on the forum has a left handed fiddle, or plays a right handed fiddle left handed as Demoiselle does.

]]>Wed, 09 May 2018 23:39:05 -0400Demoiselle on My Journey with My Violin Since May 1716.https://fiddlerman.com/forum/share-a-video/my-journey-with-my-violin-since-may-1716/page-15/#p91460
Share a videohttps://fiddlerman.com/forum/share-a-video/my-journey-with-my-violin-since-may-1716/page-15/#p91460More precisely with an example:

1.) Trill on F# and G on D string (2nd and 3rd finger)

2.) Trill on F and G on D string (2nd and 3rd finger)

The leverage of the 3rd finger is in 2.) longer, which makes it harder.

This is exactly my issue when trilling C and D on the A string. I'm training that.

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Share a videohttps://fiddlerman.com/forum/share-a-video/my-journey-with-my-violin-since-may-1716/page-15/#p91457I came to the result that overstreching my fingerboard hand has NEVER been my actual problem. In fact the problem was lack of strength whenever the leverage of stretching fingers is long. On the 3rd and 4th finger the leverage is longer indeed, especially on far to reach strings. The only way to deal with it is training the muscles by practicing. Some people have less strength than others and those have to train harder. But it takes time. In winter we all have less strength and this time I really understood. No force! In fact I cut back and that was good. Now spring gives me lots of energy and I get further ahead....
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