Re: so i tried to have a discussion with a friend of mine about aliens, reincarnation, spirituality, illuminati, etc. and....

AC, just remember to respect what SHE believes. Yes it's tough trying to tell others things different from main stream media. you know,, they are still blind. Just wait till you start talking it 24/7, living, breathing it. Lol, see how many friens you have!

Re: so i tried to have a discussion with a friend of mine about aliens, reincarnation, spirituality, illuminati, etc. and....

AC, just remember to respect what SHE believes. Yes it's tough trying to tell others things different from main stream media. you know,, they are still blind. Just wait till you start talking it 24/7, living, breathing it. Lol, see how many friens you have!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 160058

well here's an example of a piece of convo we had..

she asked why i thought the government was so bad? how could i prove that?

i gave her the iraq war scenario. i asked her if she knew what the government's reason was for the invasion. she didn't know. i told her it was because they said iraq had WMDs. she said "well how do you know they didn't know they had WMDs"

i said "because the UN inspectors found no evidence of any. we were led into the iraq war based on false premises and 9/11 was the excuse for invading iraq and that the government was behind 9/11 in order to gain the oil fields in iraq."

i left out the part about controlling the oil for the future cataclysmic events for survival.

Re: so i tried to have a discussion with a friend of mine about aliens, reincarnation, spirituality, illuminati, etc. and....

but the evidence is all there! all she said was "well they are just someone else's opinions, how can you believe anything anyone says."

EVIDENCE! EVIDENCE!

the past year or two of my life i have been soaking in all the knowledge i can get my hands on about everything, from ancient civilizations and their myths, to aliens, to illuminati, spiritual ascension, awareness, trance states, time travel, modern physics, just anything and everything.

i see the big picture, a rather large picture it is too! i see the connections behind everything i have read. EVERYTHING is connected in someway! and that is what amazes me the most and got me to break out of the shell.

maybe it is just too much for them to handle? i did put a lot of things out there at once which probably overwhelmed her programmed 'logical' thinking.

Re: so i tried to have a discussion with a friend of mine about aliens, reincarnation, spirituality, illuminati, etc. and....

I tried to do it over a long period of time, and I thought they got it, until one day I mentioned that some of the cancers of the first responders from "ground zero" resembled the types of cancers suffered after the bomb of Hiroshima, that come from ionizing radiation. They blew a gasket, going on about you people just make it up as you go, blah blah blah. You know the routine.It seems no matter how much evidence you can present, none of it ever adds up for them.Maybe its willful ignorance.I can't tell you how disappointed I am over this. They were shining me on the whole time. Bollocks and hells bells, is there no way to wake them up???

Re: so i tried to have a discussion with a friend of mine about aliens, reincarnation, spirituality, illuminati, etc. and....

When she is ready to listen, she'll ask you the questions.

I was once like you, trying to explain these things to people, but they weren't ready to believe anything that didn't fit into their own reality.

Now that I stepped back, I find that some of them are slowly coming to me and asking me more. And even now I only tell them the minimum. It's easy to be over eager to share what you have discovered, but you have to remember that you've had a long time to discover and assimulate this stuff and they haven't. Don't give them more than they can chew.

"Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein

Re: so i tried to have a discussion with a friend of mine about aliens, reincarnation, spirituality, illuminati, etc. and....

My guess too is that you probably told her too much too quickly. You have to start out with the "easy" stuff for which there is ample, conventional evidence and fits into her belief system. Once you start hitting their credibility limit you should stop and wait until they fully accept what you have said.

It's probably too late now though that you told of Planet X, though.

The best way I've found for the unreceptable ones, is to "casually mention" strange facts occasionally that are well evidenced, then wait for their questions.

Re: so i tried to have a discussion with a friend of mine about aliens, reincarnation, spirituality, illuminati, etc. and....

she completely denied everything i told her.

this is going to be harder than i thought, trying to open peoples minds to the possibilities they never could've fathomed before.

i tried to tell her the evidence of UFOs out there, the nasa infra red videos, the countless sightings all over the world, the coming events, the perceptions we cannot see on our physical world, etc.

it just did not register in her mind.

the last thing she said before she signed off was "my thoughts our my own thank you very much"

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 160756

I never have any of those problems anymore with people. If they deny anything I say.. and I mean ANYTHING. I will simply put my knowledge and claims to action and just show them some paranormal superhuman abilities to work. some levitation here and there. you know the routine.

Then their mind opens right up. how dare them wave their head in disbelief.

Re: so i tried to have a discussion with a friend of mine about aliens, reincarnation, spirituality, illuminati, etc. and....

I'm pretty much the only person I know who is into any of the conspiracy/woo-woo stuff. None of them are ready. My girlfriend tunes it out on the rare occasion I do mention something. It's amazing how little people can care about their own world.

But, alas, there is more to life than conspiracy shit. I don't hold it against people.

Re: so i tried to have a discussion with a friend of mine about aliens, reincarnation, spirituality, illuminati, etc. and....

It never works to challenge anyone's deeply held beliefs by flinging big globs of "proof" at them.

It is possible to sow a few seeds though ... allowing the recipient to choose whether or not to take onboard what you're conveying. The choice may manifest in time and you may never find out the result.

Try to understand why she doesn't believe in what you're saying. Ask questions like, why do you think there has been an increase in UFO stories? And listen to the answer. Communication is a two way process. Maybe she has questions for which there are no words yet.

You're the one who knows more on the subject and therefore you hold the key to the success in conveying the message ... and if its rejected, don't take it so personally ... hope that a seed will bloom, send them Love and move on.

Re: so i tried to have a discussion with a friend of mine about aliens, reincarnation, spirituality, illuminati, etc. and....

well here's an example of a piece of convo we had..

she asked why i thought the government was so bad? how could i prove that?

i gave her the iraq war scenario. i asked her if she knew what the government's reason was for the invasion. she didn't know. i told her it was because they said iraq had WMDs. she said "well how do you know they didn't know they had WMDs"

i said "because the UN inspectors found no evidence of any. we were led into the iraq war based on false premises and 9/11 was the excuse for invading iraq and that the government was behind 9/11 in order to gain the oil fields in iraq."

i left out the part about controlling the oil for the future cataclysmic events for survival.

however when i mentioned planet x.. she just said "oh please..."

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 160756

I believe/know that there were no WMD and it was lies for control of oil and the area that led to attacking Iraq. But if you were to start talking planet X to me I would be saying "oh please..." too

Re: so i tried to have a discussion with a friend of mine about aliens, reincarnation, spirituality, illuminati, etc. and....

The only chance would be if a few hundred Ufos doing some 'impossible' flying maneuvers and exhibiting the weirdest optical effects would appear just the moment when you ask her next time. where are they?I could have used such a display for good myself, I know a few attractive women who I would like to convince, lol.