Dragon Fang is better because its highest potential max damage; What it lacks though is crit. The reason glory sword is good is because it can be used as the best crit smash weapon with high damage and crit rate.

To lazy to check version: S requires high max damage to serve any purpose in over powering R upgrades.

You have that backwards.

I mentioned R-type upgrades for Jiri because he exceeds that break even point with this thing.

Also, the point of a 2-hander is to smash with. duel wield just plain out does better damage for WM or N. The point of smashing requires a really high base damage for a two-hander to beat duel wield for damage due to base damage getting that extra 20% to make up for how much less the sword itself provides. Both Dragon Fang and Glory sword have their strong points, but if the Glory sword will get you to that damage point where a two-hander will surpass duel wielding, than the crit is very nice. Crit on a 2-hander is equal in value to crit on equipment, unlike with duel wielding.

Originally Posted by Wed 19-Jan 2011 mabinogichat (xfire) Live Chat with Nexon GM's

The reason I got the S upgrade is because my main and favorite color is Blue. However, I might switch to red just for the crit damage. I have no idea where to get the conversion stones though.. anyone know?