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Re: Pacers / Heat Post Game Thread - 3/26

I'll say this about the refs. After the 2nd quarter, where the Heat and LBJ made an absolute living at the line. I thought the second half, the crew made some adjustments and were a lot better. We saw an offensive forearm called on LeBron, a moving screen called on Bosh...calls that simply weren't made in the first half. I also don't know if any other officiating crew doesn't call either Mahinmi or Scola's foul on LeBron a flagrant. I don't think either were, but we've seen diva star treatment in the past. I'm also surprised they called that elbow to Hibbert a flagrant. Just my two cents though. Kudos to them for also letting Chalmers look like an abolute fool for his flopping attempts and stepping out of bounds. The Lance ejection sucked, but other than that, I was happy with the officiating in the second half.

I will say the officials tried to make up for that 2nd quarter, so I can give them some credit for that. I didn't think those two fouls were flagrant and they did correct them, so I can't complain too much.

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Re: Pacers / Heat Post Game Thread - 3/26

That was an angry Heat locker room. Angry about the officials' treatment of LeBron. And angry about Stephenson's antics.

Loooool

Lebron shoots 15 free throws and they're upset about the treatment of him? He shot more free throws than the rest of his team combined.

The refs screwed us 3/4 of the game and somehow Miami complains about officiating. Apparently it's only fair if Lebron shoots 20+ free throws. Guess I'm not surprised... that's what they needed for Wade to beat the Mavs in 06. Only way Miami knows how to win.

Re: Pacers / Heat Post Game Thread - 3/26

Does he need to be more careful when he already has one tech? Absolutely. However, god forbid someone show some fire and emotion on this team. God forbid someone not be afraid of the Miami Heat. You can say what you want about Lance, but that guy doesn't fear the Heat at all. It's that fearlessness and edge that helps this team. It helps us a lot in these situations.

I think that having some "fire" that burns inside of you is a good thing.......but the problem is that you have to have the maturity and emotional stability to be able to channel that "fire" into taking you to the next level. That's why I tend to fall on the side of the fence where cdash thinks when it comes to Lance:

Yeah, and if someone would have said Ron Artest would charge into the stands at the Palace of Auburn Hills and start assaulting fans, it would have been baseless...until it happened.

This is my fear: Wade, Chalmers, or whoever are going back and forth with Lance all game during the playoffs. Emotions are high. They get into each others' faces and start bickering, someone on the Heat gives Lance an aggressive shove (say, Birdman). Then Lance does something like one of those open fisted face shoves or something which the pussy *** NBA will call a punch, and he will get suspended. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it's a scenario I don't have a great deal of trouble envisioning. Artest scarred me for life with this ****.

I totally agree with you on this. Right now....Lance is...and has always been the proverbial "X-factor" in any game the Pacers play. He has the ability to totally change the outcome of the game. He can completely change the offensive flow of the Pacers that makes the Team completely unpredictable and therefore dangerous. Unfortunately.......I can completely see the Heat...or anyone ( for that matter ) simply push the right buttons with Lance ( as you suggest ) and makes him do something that completely changes the momentum of the game in the favor of the other Team.

I know that many here don't think that Lance deserved that Technical Foul.....but I think that he did deserve it. He was all fired up....he unknowingly ( and unintentionally ) said "What" to Wade ( in his direction ).....and he gets the Technical Foul. It sucks and unfair....but he CLEARLY is a "Marked Man", Lance has to figure out how to deal with it. If it means that he has to have the maturity to not be "goaded" into doing something stupid....then he has to do it.. Lance, at his current stage of development, doesn't IMHO have the maturity to completely control his emotions and therefore channel it in the right way. I just hope that until then...we don't see him do something that costs the Pacers a game.

Re: Pacers / Heat Post Game Thread - 3/26

LeBron on Hibbert: "His face happened to hit my elbow." Says he'd have to be a Kung Fu master to direct elbow there mid-air.

In case you guys haven't seen this

I think that LeDecision does have a tendency to put his head down, drive to the hoop at 100 mph, he does what he has to do to take the contact, we see his various body parts start flying ( cuz honestly, at that point .....it's hard not to control where your arms/elbows/legs are when you are trying to absorb the hit ) and we see what he did to Hibbert.

Re: Pacers / Heat Post Game Thread - 3/26

Great win. Makes me think the Pacers actually CAN turn it up a notch when they really need to. Now use this as a springboard to start playing better ball. I'll give them credit when they deserve it. I'll be critical when they deserve it as well. Those of us that are realistic are no less Pacer fans than the sunshiners on this board. I'm cautiously optimistic that they can right this ship. Good start tonight!

Re: Pacers / Heat Post Game Thread - 3/26

Lebron definitely didn't do that on purpose...that's just not him. If it were Wade I would have my doubts, but I don't think there's any valid reasoning to accuse him of anything more than an inadvertent elbow. Didn't like the flagrant call honestly.

Re: Pacers / Heat Post Game Thread - 3/26

Great win. Makes me think the Pacers actually CAN turn it up a notch when they really need to. Now use this as a springboard to start playing better ball. I'll give them credit when they deserve it. I'll be critical when they deserve it as well. Those of us that are realistic are no less Pacer fans than the sunshiners on this board. I'm cautiously optimistic that they can right this ship. Good start tonight!

I am glad we won....but as I have said before.....rinse, repeat and do this for the rest of the season.

Re: Pacers / Heat Post Game Thread - 3/26

After reading the Heat were pissed at Stephenson I can promise you they will try to injure him. They are known for it.

Watching the post-game comments on SportsCenter.....Wade said that he doesn't play the games that Lance does. I do not doubt that he plays these "mind games". My guess it that they won't injure him....but try to p*ss him off into making a stupid mistake next time.

Re: Pacers / Heat Post Game Thread - 3/26

Watching the post-game comments on SportsCenter.....Wade said that he doesn't play the games that Lance does. I do not doubt that he plays these "mind games". My guess it that they won't injure him....but try to p*ss him off into making a stupid mistake next time.

Wade is a low life POS. If he were to tear his ACL, I would stand right in his face laughing my *** off while he cried. The dude is human trash.

I would never wish injury on anyone who didn't spend half the game trying to hurt other players. I can at least respect the way LeBron plays, I definitely did not think his elbow to Hibbert was intentional.

Re: Pacers / Heat Post Game Thread - 3/26

Great win. Makes me think the Pacers actually CAN turn it up a notch when they really need to. Now use this as a springboard to start playing better ball. I'll give them credit when they deserve it. I'll be critical when they deserve it as well. Those of us that are realistic are no less Pacer fans than the sunshiners on this board. I'm cautiously optimistic that they can right this ship. Good start tonight!

I don't think that you were realistic when you said that you think that we're in for a serious dissapointment come playoff time. However, I appreciate the fact that you give credit to the team when they deserve it.

Tonight, all flags must burn, in place of steeples.
Autonomy must return into the hands of the people.

Re: Pacers / Heat Post Game Thread - 3/26

Great win!
Miami really wanted this one. They fought HARD and lost.
I think that's pretty big.
Officiating was pretty decent ...except that 2nd quarter comeback. It was starting to get rough but only THEY got the calls. it made a ten point difference.

I think you have to plan on beating Miami by eleven. They just ARE going to get the calls most nights.

I was very happy that we remembered that possessions count! The way We were working it inside early and driving it in late is EXactly how we should play. i am so tired of the lazy three ball.

I feel we are a slightly better team. I will feel that advantage increase significantly if we can get Bynum ready for 15 min per.

Re: Pacers / Heat Post Game Thread - 3/26

Lebron definitely didn't do that on purpose...that's just not him. If it were Wade I would have my doubts, but I don't think there's any valid reasoning to accuse him of anything more than an inadvertent elbow. Didn't like the flagrant call honestly.

wasn't it last seasons playoffs where lebron tried to elbow granger and missed, but then the media would never show the replay because its lebron..