Comment by frmorrison

Usually a guild would give some support to someone working on Shadow's Edge by saving a few that drop or buying them using guild funds. Having extra 80 alts really helps. On my server the value of the 25 Saronite is 80,000g, so people may buy gold, work harder at running the AH, or hope there guild bank has stuff in it.

Comment by tmptfate

The "View in 3D" button on top is currently showing the Shadowmourne model, not Shadow's Edge. Shadows edge doesnt have the very visable blue glow covering it and has no skulls, basically its the plain version without the cool stuff on it.

Comment by Dreadrune

it is worth farming for some classes... amazing itemization for death knights and slowly you will also work towards shadowmourne its self

Comment by Streetwind

The itemization on this axe is amazing - from the perspective of a warrior, it has ArPen and Crit (and if you are an Orc, you even get some Expertise to boot), the perfect socket color, wonderfully slow speed, and an equal strength/stamina spread. It probably doesn't get much better than this outside heroic mode ICC25.

Considering this, it is probably worth saving up to get this even if you never plan to progress towards Shadowmourne. A month or two down the road, Primordial Saronite will be dropping below 1000g a pop, and if you start saving/moneymaking now, there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to afford it.

Comment by Durzog

That's a great hunter weapon.

Comment by EvilIncarnate

According to MMO-champion database, the socket bonus is 6 strength.*At the time of this post there is no socket bonus listed on the item.

Comment by preah

Is this usable in arena? I know Shadowmourne isn't, but what about this one?

Comment by Ansi

Yes, you can use this in arena.

No armor or weapons has ever been restricted from being equipped in arena. Items with on use is another story, and has nothing to do with Shadowmourne.

Comment by nenadnesha15

I think this weapon is worth farming all that saronite.As a death knight myself i already started doing it as i have many alts it will be no problem getting the saronite in 2-3 months from emblem vendor.

Comment by Treston323

Great weapon for all specs. Unholy Death Knights and Ret pallies might want to get Bryntroll, the Bone Arbiter instead(if you aren't going for Shadowmourne) but for Blood Death Knights and Warriors, this will probably be BiS until Heroic for it being so greatly itemized for them.

Comment by Bladehallow

I love when warriors tell ret pallies and dks wut they should use...first of all why would a ret pally desire the bone arbiter over the shadowmourne or the shadows edge for that matter...the only bonus is the faster attack speed which would enable the tics to get up faster but all your instant attack dmg and seal dmg will hit a lot less harder because of that faster attack speed. Secondly there are no other additional attributes on the bone arbiter that scale w/ our attacks to increase our dmg. All Dps have healers to heal them in battle so that proc is pretty much useless to anyone except a dk tank.

Everyone says that Arm pen is pretty much the weakest stat for ret pallies and even unholy dks for that matter but i totally disagree with that. Its true that Arm pen doesnt impact any of the seal dmg that the pallys dish out but it effects all the melee, crusader strike, and divine storm attacks. With the new T10 2 set bonus the amount of divine storm attacks is going to be nearly doubled. And if you know how to dps w/ the pally your going to have very little cooldown time w/ your rotation to increase your overall dps which a good portion of it will consume physical dmg. Also w/ every point of haste i am putting into my toon i am increasing the effectiveness of arm pen b/c i am increasing the overall total physical dmg i am doing throughout the fight. For unholy Dks now scourge strike does phys dmg so arm pen has become much more useful for them.

Just Because a stat isnt the most desired doesnt make it not useful in increasing dps and that particular stat's effectiveness is based on your entire gear's itemization. I out dps ret pallies that are 300 and 400 points higher on gear score b/c my skill, knowledge of toon and fight, and my gear's itemization (not score).

Comment by jarbulldog

on my server it cost me 58k for the 25 prim saronite

Comment by highwind123

Its hard to belive that a proc will equal out ~20str, 92 crit rating, 92 armor penetration rating and 72-106 higher base damage.

i also heard the proc on bryntoll is good, but if it is better than those stats it will probably nerfed anyways.

Comment by nenadnesha15

I know this might be a silly question, but is there an option to view this axe along with the Death knight new tier in 3D on a blood elf male?

edit: There was no need to downrate i just needed an answer to that question...

Comment by downsmash

Going off of Elitist Jerks' numbers, Unholy now benefits the most from Armor Penetration out of all 3 DPS specs, so they will probably want to stick with this.

Comment by icantwin

my question of the hour is - do we know what raid you have to be in for the acidic blood to drop? can it drop from 10 or 25 - or does it have to be 25man.

I'm assuming it has to be done hardmode, but I can't find anything pointing out if it has to be 10 or 25. I'll be sort of disappointed if it has to be 25, because while I'm fairly certain our 10 man should be able to clear hardmodes, our 25 is usually not quite up to snuff, and not being able to start shadowmourne because we're can't pull together 15 other non-idiots will make me qq quite a bit.

Comment by Thrakin

I love when warriors tell ret pallies and dks wut they should use...first of all why would a ret pally desire the bone arbiter over the shadowmourne or the shadows edge for that matter...the only bonus is the faster attack speed which would enable the tics to get up faster but all your instant attack dmg and seal dmg will hit a lot less harder because of that faster attack speed. Secondly there are no other additional attributes on the bone arbiter that scale w/ our attacks to increase our dmg. All Dps have healers to heal them in battle so that proc is pretty much useless to anyone except a dk tank.

Everyone says that Arm pen is pretty much the weakest stat for ret pallies and even unholy dks for that matter but i totally disagree with that. Its true that Arm pen doesnt impact any of the seal dmg that the pallys dish out but it effects all the melee, crusader strike, and divine storm attacks. With the new T10 2 set bonus the amount of divine storm attacks is going to be nearly doubled. And if you know how to dps w/ the pally your going to have very little cooldown time w/ your rotation to increase your overall dps which a good portion of it will consume physical dmg. Also w/ every point of haste i am putting into my toon i am increasing the effectiveness of arm pen b/c i am increasing the overall total physical dmg i am doing throughout the fight. For unholy Dks now scourge strike does phys dmg so arm pen has become much more useful for them.

Just Because a stat isnt the most desired doesnt make it not useful in increasing dps and that particular stat's effectiveness is based on your entire gear's itemization. I out dps ret pallies that are 300 and 400 points higher on gear score b/c my skill, knowledge of toon and fight, and my gear's itemization (not score).

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Comment by Frame

There is absolutely no point in rushing to get this weapon except just for some extra dps boost. Even if you get it when second wing is out, you will need all other wings (Sindragosa as the end) to get the chain done and be able to farm Shadowfrost shards. So unless you got so much gold to spend on saronite from AH, don't bother getting it asap.

Comment by ViagroPower

This 2h Axe will be BiS for all plate DPS classes until heroic version of ICC25 comes out.

Comment by ViagroPower

so the extra str, crit, socket bonus, 3.7 speed, 100 more top end don't make up for the Proc, okay bro.

Comment by Petrocity

It's just as you've said. They don't make up for the proc.

Comment by Petrocity

It's just as you've said. They don't make up for the proc.

Comment by Adrict

Most of what i've been hearing put Bryntroll's proc as doing more damage then Divine Storm throughout a fight. Not to mention how lousy of a stat Arpen is for ret.Also, for all we know Bryntroll is the Armageddon of ICC, there might very well be a Betrayer of Humanity level weapon later in the instance.

TL:DR people with money/who want a legendary will get this, anyone who doesn't will be rolling with the normal or heroic bryntroll when it's accessible.

Comment by Venci

Im a Retri pala and i got the lvl264 Bryntroll and im doing nice dps.But for PvE Shadowmourne will be better at that lvl,u get the procs from Shadowmourne witch will scale with everything that gives u %str,all the buffs and haste u get from ur party and ur dmg is becoming very high.

Yes , but Bryntroll's procs will benefit from the %dmg aswell.Yes it will but still u have only 15% chance to trigger the procs and its only the %dmg that benefits it.So i leave with the choise of using Bryntroll in PvP .i wount need the procs from Shadowmourne in PvP the heal regen will serve me better.

So thats it:Shadowmourne=PvE Bryntroll = PvP

(well if someone wants to do some mats,plz ill be happy to read them)

chears

Comment by Resky

Acidic blood drops in 25 man normal (but probably heroic as well) mode. Only ONE person with the quest can loot it per festergut/rotface kill. Also, don't forget to leave loot on Free for All, otherwise only master looter can see and loot the quest item :>

Comment by dfordeathmaggy

"This item hasn't been seen on live servers yet, so some data may be missing!" Isnt rly true.. i got it today :) Dfordeath on Magtheridon, Cheers!

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Comment by Kalx

For some reason, Judgement of Light/Wisdom seems to be proc'ing insanely with that weapon, probably 100% proc chance or more, as I've seen it proc more than once in one single hit, with no special reason whatsoever. It's like having unlimited health or mana.

Blizzard will most likely fix this soon enough tho.

Comment by erod

Is armor pen "ok" for warriors and unholy DKs? its &*!@ing AWESOME for BOTH classes, idiot.

Comment by Vysogota

Some people already have Shadow's Edge (i.e. Cleavern and Fenitarn from Ensidia, Jory from Last Resort or Razie from Method) and yes, the socket bonus is indeed +6 Strength.

Comment by Gorgoes

Incase you guys are wondering I have confirmed that only 1 of each quest item from Rotface and Festergut drop per week per run on Normal 25 man

It Seems to go to the 1st person who loots the item so if you have alot in your raid on this quest that do not have the saronite for the weapon you should Urge them not to loot

Comment by dfordeathmaggy

Added item in "client" some 40 hours ago..Still not seen on servers? Strange.. Added pic also but nada... maybe soon maybe not.. Who knows :)

Comment by horaxe

I picked up mine last night, it's already proving to be a great weapon. The Acidic Bloods from Festergut and Rotface always drop as long as there is a raid member with the quest. So, really there's no reason to "wait" on the Primordials unless funds are an issue. Interestingly the followup quest is flying by, the adds summoned by the various trash in the second wing all count, as well as the opposite faction NPCs before the gunship, and all of the NPCs on the gunship. I fully anticipate getting this knocked out around the time next wing opens up, then I can work on Unholy and Blood quests, and be prepared for the Frost one as soon as Sindragosa's wing opens.

Comment by imbusion

Our first went to a DPS DK on Wednesday, and I (Fury Warrior) should be getting our guild's 2nd Shadow's Edge on Tuesday of this week. I assume multiple people can progress on the '1000 souls' quest at the same time, but I'd of course report if that wasn't the case.

Comment by cloudy

While you're wielding this (or maybe just on the quest A Feast of Souls) you get whispers from the Lich King.

The Lich King whispers:

Bring me your weapon, champion, that I might feed it the soul of its master!Soon, mortal, you too shall have a blade for a prison.Take them, mortal, these souls will again be mine soon enough.Remember hero: I, too, once sought a weapon of great power...Look at you, child; would-be wielder of souls... you cannot fathom the power that lies at my command!You stumble about in darkness. There is no light here. No mercy! Icecrown has claimed the souls of better heroes than you.I see you too are gathering souls for your own ends. Are we really so different, champion?The Light will abandon you, hero, just as it did me.More souls... yes, more... you will find it hard to stop, mortal.The hunger your weapon feels is but a shade of what awaits. You want to see real hunger? Real power? Continue onward, hero. I am waiting.Yes, do it! Create your monstrous new weapon. It too will serve me when your soul is mine.The moment is soon at hand, mortal. You shall toil for eternity in a new Azeroth!Never have I had cause to regret sparing your life, mortal. Always, you find ways to amuse me.

It seems like new ones are added as wings unlock.

Comment by yanthir

The Axe is far too small on a male nightelve :/

Comment by matias280

what i would do if i was a warrior i would get the spec that lets you hold a 2h in 1h and get shadows edge and shadowmourne then you'll then have the two strongest weapons in WoW :) but my main is a dk and my alt is a lock :( well when my charas are 80 and have there tier im will get that armor you can pass to alts

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Comment by 100le

While I do agree with you for the most part. Their is actually a good reason to get it soon. Because the next quest has you killing 1000 scourge in icc. So the sooner the better for that part. But as I said no point in spending tons of money to get it now when probably around jan 12th or so the primordials will drop in price drastically.Last edited by

Why do you think 1.12 prices will go down?

Comment by dreadblood

the one thing many ppl seem to be missing is that though bryntroll is close to this.. now that we can kill the lich king we can get shadowmourne which is waaaaaaaaaayyy better than any other wep IMObut I do understand that they made their comments beforehand and at the time they were viable.. that or you cant actually kill him for whatever reason

Comment by Sunessa

From what I'm seeing as far as theorycrafting goes, Heroic Bryntroll is nearly on-par with Shadowmourne for Retribution Paladins, even after the nerf to Bryntroll.

Comment by eamon2plz

As a DK blood tank, I find this and the actual Legendary to be Best-in-Slot for EH and threat. If the primordial are easy to come by and you have a solid guild that regularly clears through plague wing, by all means - pick it up!

Comment by DrPwnage

if you wanna skip all the quests and turn you shadow edgeinto shadowmourne ask chuck norris to cough on it

Comment by Zaelan

Do you get to keep Shadow's Edge?

Or does it consumed when making Shadowmourne or something?

Comment by Zaelan

seems like a question only a fury warrior would ask. why else would you want both?

Truer words were never spoken. XP

Comment by Opponent

Worth noticing is that this weapon leaves a vague blueish smoke-trail when you run around with it (assuming you've got particle density on highest). Looks pretty neat. :)

Comment by Felix79

I've had mine for a few weeks now and it is a awsome wepon in it's own right let alone the fact it will eventually turn into the Shadowmourne. For me being a Blood DK dps I have found this wepon offers me everything I need and has allowed me to focous on other items while other people fight over the other 2H weps in ICC.

Note* I spent the best part of 30,000 gold on the saronites on EU Kul'Tiras in April to get this wep!

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Comment by Celestos

Got it yesterday and as a Human Ret Pally coming from Quel'Delar, Might of the Faithful lost on expertise (slightly... d*mn stupid racials) and some haste but raw power of the axe compensates that lost (2x20Str gems and +140AP vs undeads is nothing bad... maybe upgradeable but... as starters is not bad at all - other enchant is on the way when I get the 10 crystals).

Got some crystals and changed +140AP with Berseker. Much much beter now.

Comment by QFred

If you check the Cataclysm version of this weapon, you'll see the ArP will be replaced with haste and some of the Str will be passed to Sta.

Comment by Themadone

i suppose it sucks when u lose it but u get shadowmourne which is even better :)

Comment by killerkallum

The lich king only whispers to you when you are on the quest, if u have shadowmourne then it's constintly.

Comment by obiwaynekenobi

As of Patch 4.0.1 the hardest part of obtaining Shadow's Edge is getting all 25 Primordial Saronites - they now cost 266 Justice Points so it would take 6,650 JPs to buy all 25. If you haven't gotten Shadow's Edge already, it's probably not worth it now unless you have a lot of time and/or cash on your hands.

Comment by Kuja

For some reason this weapon has no textures since the latest patch :P Everyone's Edge is just green. At least for me.

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Comment by BuckyMcLachlan

What the hell is with all the fail as posts telling people to go for Bryntrol? No Bryntrol was never good. You should've have been going for heroic (or even normal) Citadel Enforcer's Claymore and Ramaladni's Blade of Culling over that piece of crap axe.

And your BIS as an arms or fury warrior before you were able to get this, heroic 25 or LK weapons was CRYPTMAKER.

I wouldn't rage so much over this but not only is this post full of comments outright recommending Bryntrol, but people were actually giving positive ratings to those posts.

Comment by Catlover74

This item has been disenchanted 23 times.

Why, why would you do such a thing?

Comment by Lostelf

Probably mistook it for some trash weapon....although how i will never know

Comment by xHearts

If I'm not mistaken, people disenchanted this because it would give an Abyss Crystal and you could talk to Highlord Mograine and get another one.

It was a pretty unfair way to get WotLK enchanting mats.

Comment by Barneystinson72

"When i'm sick i just stop being sick and then just to be awezum. True story" -Barney Stinson

Comment by Syllvos

Shadow's Edge Is currently a valid transmogrification item, so you once again get to enjoy the pre-shadowmourne feel.

Comment by slickrick0419

I could really see many of these being transmogged when 4.3 hits :)

Comment by Nelora

Shadow's Edge can no long be used for transmogrification. Why? Because, it is apart of a legendary quest line, there for it falls under the same rules as legendary weapons. I was very hopeful that I could finally use one of my most unique items I've ever owned again, but alas, this weapon will still be collecting dust in my bank vault.

Comment by Hypercaine

For those that was planning to transmogrify this in The Hour of Twilight Patch 4.3.0, i have bad news. This is not Transmogrifyable just like Ashbringer/Corrupted Ashbringer and any Legendary weapon, lvl 60 pvp gear Including Knight-Captain and High Warlord. If you got those in Vanilla and have the feat of strength for the 60 PvP "Ranks" you can transmogrify them, Any weapon you get in quest chain that you have for a period of time until you complete the quest is not transmogrifyable. For example Shadow's Edge in the Shadowmourne quest chain.

Comment by Feelthechill

Comment by BlizzardCS

There’s an issue with Shadow's Edge that prevents it from being added to the transmogrification collection. We’re investigating this.

Comment by jotham97

As of patch 7.1 (26/10/2016), Shadow's Edge is now an available appearance for Transmogrification! It's been a few years coming, and it's time to enjoy it guys!

Comment by Atiaens

As of 7.1 - this item can be used for transmog, and is account bound :)

Yay!

Comment by daninature

SINCE 7.1 U CAN MOG THIS MYTIC AXE!

Comment by SpeedLancer

My DK still has it in the bank, so it's in his and my Warrior's Appearance collection. However, my Guild Master has Shadowmourne, and Shadow's Edge is not in his collection. Anyone know if there's a way to add it other than doing the quest again on another character?