King of Song: Sony is now in a position to actually win this impossible to win war...

If Sony were to stop selling it's best sensors to Nikon, and to constantly develop it's software with regular firmware updates. Fix it's archaic menu system, Nikon would be in big trouble. Canon on the other hand doesn't need any help in falling behind, already doing a great job of it.

Then you'd be paying huge sums of money for a simple camera. Just think if Canon were to stop allowing EF adapters from third party manufacturers. Camera+Zeiss lens will be yours for $10.000 only. Happy dreams ;)

Mike Sandman: I ordered this today, before seeing this partially complete review. I have no regrets based on what I've read here. My Canon gear will be on eBay shortly - as soon as I get a camera with which to photograph it.

Thanks.

And your Sony will be on e-bay soon replaced by another Sony, Nikon, Canon or wait the up and coming full frame Pentax.

falconeyes: Must be a slow day ... Canon is able to make 1.5µm pixels in an APS-H sensor. Who not?

Another failed attempt by Canon to obfuscate they are lagging behind the competition in sensor technologies. All other vendors would have left this is a home work exercise to their employees ...

Sony sensors are better only in DR. Rest of the technical qualities and performances Canon are ahead. DR is not the only thing that a photographer is worried about despite the many geeks in these forums religiously think it is.

sirok: Forget more MegaPixels . Here is Inovation that will make its way to Sony Camerashttps://www.youtube.com/watch?t=146&v=qn5YQVvW-hQ

@sirok...It's an interesting invention. I think that it has potential for practical applications. However I didn't see anything to suggest that Sony bought the licence for this invention. Perhaps it's your wish that Sony would use it rather than factual statement from you.

But meanwhile, what Canon actually HAS: pieces of overpriced, under-spec'd products pretty much obsolete on the day they hit the marketplace. So, who would really fall for this kind of lame-fake announcements from a rather discredited company like Canon?

@Francis Carver...As long as trollers have a right to their "opinion" you will see more news for technical development from any company. Or perhaps they are doing it just to personally annoy you ;-)

falconeyes: Must be a slow day ... Canon is able to make 1.5µm pixels in an APS-H sensor. Who not?

Another failed attempt by Canon to obfuscate they are lagging behind the competition in sensor technologies. All other vendors would have left this is a home work exercise to their employees ...

The whole sale criticism style is very tiresome. Criticising (trolling) a brand, in this case Canon, on the basis of the pixel size alone is lacking in substance to say the least. "falconeyes" appears as he can compare a phonecamera sensor to this one. He should be able to support his claim with his evidence since it's as easy as a homework.

It is also highly a sad case that a lot of people think that as if governments need high megapixel cameras to make life hell for their citizens. Oh yes...before the high megapixel cameras world was a peaceful place with full of fair, ethical laws passed by humane governments. Large parts of the world's population, mainly in developed world, have already been made slaves to banks by politicians owned by banks. While we rightly complain about surveillance cameras banks and large corporations don't need them at all to achieve their goals through credit/banking systems.

AbrasiveReducer: It's a run-up to their expo this month. Typical Canon, following the money, aiming for lucrative industrial and government sales. The way the world is going, security and surveillance are going to be bigger businesses than consumer cameras.

So...Sony lose government contracts by a small margin of 8mp. Typical Sony.

Meanwhile Dpreview can't help to a highly opinionated comment "which sounds a bit like they(Canon) don't know what to do with it now they've made it." I wander if Dpreview have an insider on Canon's executive committee?

ttran88: The whole month of August we had articles after articles of praises for the A7RII and after each article DPR would be accused of being on Sony's payroll. Now we have this damning article from DPR. Did Sony miss a payment? Or is Canon and Nikon paying more?

Judging by the amount of comments trying to brush the issue under carpet there doesn't seem to be much change.

Tikipawa: I think we should take into account that the Sony FE 55mm f1.8 Carl Zeiss is a very sharp lens. I am not sure how this compares to the other camera lenses used in this test. Are these tests really showing the "sensor" magic or the "sensor + lens combo" magic?

I am not sure how it could be done but it would be great to have a system for measuring lenses and sensors isolated from each other.

@skookum8...Have you noticed there is a comparison tool? Just pick a camera of your choice. This tool and samples are what Dpreview use for presenting us the evidence for their review.

Tikipawa: I think we should take into account that the Sony FE 55mm f1.8 Carl Zeiss is a very sharp lens. I am not sure how this compares to the other camera lenses used in this test. Are these tests really showing the "sensor" magic or the "sensor + lens combo" magic?

I am not sure how it could be done but it would be great to have a system for measuring lenses and sensors isolated from each other.