arrrghk .... where's the edit button gone ? Anyway, it should read The other day and in the end there was a sarcasm-tag I love that ad soooo much end-of-sacrcasm-tag but it seems it was deleted. Sorry folk :-(

I love that ad ... The other I was trying to prove to a friend of mine that the ADL was a farce, an intellectual bankruptcy ... This ad is a perfect own goal. Tell you, I'm gonna keep it and tell you again but this time more clearly I love that ad soooo much

Kay,
Since this thread seems to be "international" or multilingual, you might find some hope in this French saying (about patience) "Les petits ruisseaux font les grandes rivières" which could be translated as "Small watercourses make big rivers"

Dear Kay24
you say :WE, THE PEOPLE OF THE US, ARE ALSO GUILTY OF THESE CRIMES, BY SHAMELESSLY AIDING, SUPPORTING, AND PROTECTING THE WAR CRIMINALS.
I can sort of feel your anger and sorrow and though my words won't change those feelings, I would like first to say to you that :you, the people are not guilty of those horrendous crimes, the governments and to all those US posters here, not only the US government but also all the governments of Western Europe. All those governments are the real enablers and full complicit of these crimes. I live in Western Europe and I am truly ashamed.
We must act like candles (small, fragile yet warm and alight) : share the flame with the next candle thus creating a chain of lit candles setting light on the path of peace and freedom. Might sound highly poetic but essentially true and I think, essential.

I have another simple one Dim (though I confess not entirely from me) :Give up your arsenal (planes, helicopters, submarines, nuclear warheads, tanks, and the list of mass murdering and destruction tools goes on), proclaim Israel demilitarized zone under UN/OSCE/LGA control, subject to the international monitoring of goods and people coming in/out of Israel and denounce the goal of creating Eretz Israel, withdraw from all occupied territories including Golan. Does any of them require loss of lives or any harm to Israelis?
No. So what's your take Dim ?
I leave to other posters to comment on “Palestinian people’s honor” ...
I am not a Palestinian but I'de be proud if I was (my heart is though, Palestinian that is)

international opinion which sees Israel as part of the jungle rather than the villa.

I know you're paraphrasing but still you're insulting the jungle (what's wrong with the jungle) and insulting the Arab people (they're part of the "terrible" jungle)

Israel is definitely the villa : surrounded by fences/wall/barricades ... no natural wild life tolerated, any insects and lovely form of life annihilated on the spot, guns ...
In the jungle, wild life flourishes, all kind of extraordinary species live, even human tribes live there respecting their host environnement ...

Welcome to the rest of the world American ;-)
As far as I remember there has been complaints to Google by some people in France that when searching for a name, Google would automatically add "juif" (Jewish) as a suggestion. For example, when looking for Lawrence Kolb Google woud suggest "Lawrence Kolb juif". Obviously many people performed the same search as you did and the algorithm from Google brought this suggestion. I believe Google added a filter as a response to the complaints.
I tested with my name here in Europe and Google did not display any warning. If I have some spare time I'lly try to provide you with links. You can believe what I just wrote above, but please don't believe me if say they have the power. Oh and by the way try searching Larry Page, Sergey Bryn ;-)

Before WWII, it was quite ... I guess you mean After WWIInot one country was willing to accept Jewish refugees
That does not entitle those refugees to take over another people's land. Second, the argument is plain wrong : Jews/zionists had already started their monstrous project well before WWII and were already moving en masse to Palestine
Thus NormanF statement has no validity whatsoever. It is pure hasbara

Shimri Zameret, an Israeli activist who knew Ishtewi from Qaddum, said he was shocked to learn about the arrest just three days after the elections.
Someone should tell this person about Mondoweiss.net ...

Can't Israel and Israelis take care of themselves alone for once ?!? Israel begs for money and special advantages from their special friend and and allies, bullies all those disagree with its racist and murderous policy towards the Palestinian people and people in the region in general and yet some liberal zionist think it's the oppressed population or the bullied people/government that should save this rogue state ... This has got to be a joke of the worst kind. We all must act to ensure a better future to people there (and anywhere) but saving Israel whatever that means is certainly not an option.

This video doesn't prove anything to me. How do we know who the victim is ? How do we know there is a victim ? When I watched the edited video I thought the IOF could very well have staged it all the way ... and I still believe they did.
C'mon, they release an edited video and days after comes the original ... Yeah, not me. I don't need a video to understand that the IOF murdered (yet another) innocent young man.

I spent a day touring Al-Khalil and its (in)famous neighborhood years ago and this is where I learnt about its Arabic name. To answer to Kathleen, I can't speak on behalf of the Palestinian people, so I can't be 100% sure that Al-Khalil would be the preferred name but I know its mine ;-)

I agree with Rusty Pipes and Eljay on the pragmatic aspect, but I must honestly say that it would still hurt my fingers and my heart to put the name in parentheses. To me that's "Hebron" that should placed in parentheses. Just like occupation will be a parentheses in history that is !

Annie, I have a little problem with your post (and comments). Actually not necessarily only yours : The town's Arabic is name Al-Khalil not Hebron. By pure respect for the Palestinian inhabitants and their struggle I never use the occupiers' name when I mention this city. Hebron is also the name used in French and probably in English but still I think we owe it to all the people of Palestine to call their towns and villages by their real name. I have much less of a trouble about Jerusalem because of its kind of international status.
Please don't take this personally Annie. This is a great post as is generally the case when you write.

Dear Fairooz,
It is my belief that Israel could have been a light unto to the nations if they had been a light unto themselves (Israelis) ... But through zionism, they have chosen they other way ... They are a catastrophe unto the nations (mine, yours and others) because they are a catastrophe unto themselves first ...
They have caged the Palestinian people physically, they have caged all freedom of expression and discussion about their actions but they also have first and foremost caged their own soul.
Too many, far too many babies and children ... Too many far too many brothers and sisters, parents, friends and neighbors ... Too many far too many trees, houses ... have been hurt, killed, destroyed ... But their devastated souls can NEVER destroy our soul. Soul and mind know no no bounds in time and place ...

It is working albeit slowly ... But we know for sure (10'000 years experience and counting, billions of victims and counting ) that the opposite definitely does not ...
Religions are dogmas that obstruct people's mind, heart and soul ... Religions are the opium of the people ... And as such they sadly work !

And a little personal note about religion : religion is only a means of control and power by the elites. Those that act ethically rarely invoke religion as the main force behind their actions. That alone says it all ... Wanna change the world ? Change your heart, mind and soul first. Those simple rules need not be written in any "holy books" from any "holy land" ...

I entirely second that. Just want to add that this is also true for most of the Western powers that tout their values too (UK, France, Germany, Spain et al)
What "values" are the talking about ? ... How come people still boast about this empty concept ... How come ordinary people still BELIEVE in this hypocrisy ?

Very interesting post Jesse. Just a little correction. It is not Sharon who ordered to break the Palestinians' bones but another war criminal : Yitzak Rabin ...
[as per many sources, among them the highly recommended Mondoweiss link to mondoweiss.net ]

"For example, there is nothing wrong with knocking down unpermitted structures."

So by extension, it sounds that Fredblogs has solved the settlements issue : All structures settlements' structures being illegal under international law should knocked down. Simple ! ... I'll be glad to help !

Thank you for posting all these information. As much as I feel sick and hardly read all the topics as much I believe it is extremely important that all of this madness be reported, documented, known. It is important for us to know about the sufferings inflicted onto the Palestinian people. It is important that the Palestinian know there is solidarity around the globe and what they endure doesn't go unnoticed. It is important that those [place appropriate description here] know what they do to others is documented.

See Brian ... why not include Israel in your list, it seems very close to the other countries Israel _really_ shares values with !
Could it be because Israel has an edge on that one :
* apartheid : checked

So if I understand what you're saying , Israel would check my private mails and based on what they'd find would expel me in order to protect my little self against the savage Border Police ready to shoot me if I take part in some peaceful demonstration or go to places or talk to people Israel don't like ... That's probably what you call a thriving democracy!

Let's see in what other places could this happen ? Hmmmh did I hear you say North Korea, China, Myanmar, Syria ... ?

Literally 5 minutes after I posted the above message a colleague of mine said to me "Hey have you heard of Migros' decision" ... After a short exchange, the talk ended up like this :"and I don't and won't buy any Israeli product anyway"

See Fred, yes people care, yes BDS is working ... slowly in the market, faster in people's mind ... and the market WILL catch up

"how little people care" ... Sorry to disappoint ... Many people do care ...
This is precisely why Migros chose to mention "settlement zone". Indication of origin is mandatory and people do care, some for political reasons others for ecological ones.
I know of many people that just don't buy "Israel".
There has been a soft pressure on those Swiss retail giants (Migros and Coop mainly) to boycott "made in Israel" products ... As far as food is concerned, the idea was to ask for alternative origin in the shops themselves :"I see you only have Jaffa oranges, Jaffa is an Israeli brand, I don't buy Israeli products, do you have any alternative products?" Also this company, and the last three times I checked, would either mix Israeli products with products from other origin or fail to mention the origin. Alas this pesky Jaffa stickers ... Each time, I asked to have the proper origin mentioned and to talk to the shop manager. Each time the manager would say sorry, mistake, no intention etc but they perfectly knew and felt the pressure.
In my opinion indication of origin is a small step and must be appreciated as such. It is also a marketing move for a company that touts its "engageMent" for various causes. It will allow Migros to sell and advertise Israel with no shame. And remember Migros will start its action next year. This leaves the settlers way enough time to change their packaging and sell their products as "made in Israel"
As said, its a small step, but it will help increase awareness of the whole matter, it will help put pressure on other stores ... it will help a real BDS ...

"a mass invasion by the Egyptian people" ? I don't think so ... I have never witnessed the IOF caring for goyims' blood. Remember last year when they didn't hesitate to shoot unarmed protesters at the border.

Egyptians are great people but in don't think they would martyr en masse for Palestine

The sieged mentality now prevailing would allow Israel to bring desolation and wanton destruction all over the places (Cairo, Beirut, South Lebanon) without any kind moral restriction (yeah the most moral army in the world canard) and with the help of the Western World (I am so ashamed to be part of).

Israel would be presented as the "villa in the jungle" and the victim. We know they excel at that and our politicians are too willing to be on the Israeli side.

Last, some Jews would flee no doubt ... But how many would go? Don't forget that last September the French Betar was ready to set up an armed militia to help the settlers. And after a while, how many Jews would return in a new Greater Israel where the emptied land would need new forces ?

I must have read it somewhere between the lines and it is also an uncomfortable feeling I share.

I don't believe Israel would attack Iran for the nuke. Just like you, I think the whole idea is to destabilize the entire area and get rid of the whole Arab population inside Israel proper and the OT. Iran would certainly retaliate to any attack but even without being an expert in the matter, I don't think they could really do much harm to Israel.
Add to this the fact that our puppet governments would do all they can to help Israel in any way they can in these "difficult time", including turning a blind on the final ethnic cleansing of Palestine. This is also where organized and state-sponsored islamophobia is leading us. Few would care for those Iranians or Palestinians, they're all islamists after all.

Le Musée de l'Elysée is a very famous museum in Lausanne, since I live nearby this city and am un ami du Musée de l'Elysée, I'll watch this closely. Elysée is the same name of the famous Paris avenue -> Avenue des Champs Elysée

"I hope Sansour takes up the Musée de l'Elysée offer to show her photos in a solo exhibition and she becomes a madly famous photographer on the world stage."
So do I

What a revolting article ... As much as the settler entreprise should be ended, this man should face trial for hate speech and incitement.

If anyone believe in justice for all, then the settlers should indeed be evacuated and fully made to pay for what they've done to the Palestinian people. Calling for thugs (whoever they are) to be shot is obscene.

Next : "a persecuted minority in a sea of haredim, fanatics, Arabs and parasites." I mean, I nearly fell off my chair. That alone tells it all about this IDF general.

I fear (I know?) this must be the school of thought at the IDF and likely in the Israeli public as well.

The zionist boat is sinking, but we must not let it sink in a sea of blood.

1) Mr President can you look at yourself in a mirror and not be disgusted ?
2) Ever thought of refusing/returning your Nobel Prize ?
3) Did you sleep well after the Qana massacre ?
4) Did you ever go through a checkpoint ?
5) Did you ever walk the Suhada street ?
6) Would like to buried in Marmilla cemetery ?
7) How does it feel like to be applauded the world over for your achievements when in fact you perfectly know that what you "achieved" is an awfully racist, supremacist, ill-fated state ?
8) Have you got any idea of what the occupation is all about and as you probably do why don't you do anything to stop it ?

Taxi, I understand your feeling and somehow I guess I share part of it. In the meantime we all know violence only brings more violence.

What we wish for Mustafa's family and the Palestinian people at large is peace. Peaceful demonstrations will again be met with lethal violence by the Israeli thugs but at the end of the day they'll lose everything.

As much as darkness does not exist, it is the absence of light, hate does not exist either, it is the absence of love and metaphorically the absence of light. I believe that in the end we will all see that the light unto the nation is ... Palestine.

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