i actually just heard ‘kiss from a rose’ in an episode of it’s always sunny in philadelphia and the first thing i thought was ‘that’s the song from spider-man’ and after further research i was led to this page. i hear the connection, its rather obvious similar chord progression and rhythm in the vocals.

The reason that you don’t hear a connection is because there is NONE. Anyone that thinks there is a connection needs their ears checked. The only “connection” between these two songs is that they’re both in Superhero films – that’s where the similarities end. Half of the songs on this site don’t make sense anyway.

@Nope
I disagree. In fact, I remember thinking, back when “Hero” was released “Wow, what a blatant ripoff of Kiss from a rose!”
And the fact that it was for a spiderman movie just add weight to my suspicion that they just took their ‘inspiration’ from the hit song of another same-genre movie.

Agree with you Sanglyon. As a Canadian I despise Chad Kroeger. He ripped off his sound from the post grunge bands of America and it isn’t surprising that he ripped off an anthemic chorus line from Seal. He truly is a painted face on a hollow shell. I think as a sixth generation Canadian there is a law that I have the right to strip the citizenship off a second generation Canadian and send them to their country of origin. In this case Germany. Speaking of Germans ripping off songs. Silent Night which everyone thought was composed in Germany was a rip off of a Russian song called Evening Bell which Thomas Moore published in 1812.

What do you mean ripped off? Do you think the Seattle sound is copyrighted? By that basis, most bands rip off other bands. As for the hollow shell statement, Nickelback have more than just love songs, not including songs that are more sexual than loving. There’s Photograph, which is about old memories (some of love); the sarcastic yet witty Rockstar, about Rock ‘n’ Roll excesses; If Today Was Your Last Day (yes it does mention love); Lullaby, telling someone that there is hope and not to give up on life; If Everyone Cared and When We Stand Together. So although you don’t like him, it seems he is of more substance than you realise.

there can be 2 reasons if u don’t find any connection between these 2 songs:- 1. u haven’t heard “kiss from a rose” nd r probably listening to it for the first time; 2. u have ZERO knowledge about music!!

Not sure why some people can’t hear this. I think Seal is very talented and Chad Kroger and Nickelback are just OK but that isn’t important. The fact is that whenever Hero comes on the radio I think that Kiss From a Rose is coming on. And I really like the song Kiss From a Rose.

First, they are both in 3/4 (or 6/8 depending on how you want to feel the pulse).

Second, the chord progressions use the same chords relative to their keys.

KFAR is uses Eb, F and G, Hero uses G, A and B. (Major chord built on the flat 6th, Major chord built on the flat 7th and then tonic)

They differ in their harmonic rhythm. KFAR changes chord every 3rd beat. Hero every 6. The harmonic motion though is very similar.

I havent analyzed the melodies, but there is a passing resemblance to my ear. I dont think the songs are close enough to be infringement. But it would not surprise me at all if Kroeger was given the directive to write something like KFAR or took it upon himself to do so.

Thanks for the theory breakdown for the other readers. And as with most songs on the site the “passing resemblance” is sometimes all that we need to recognize that something sounds like something else.

If this is Travis Tritt, I can understand why you would want to defend Chad. But Chad needs to know that he might be able to get away with mass producing RocknRoll in can but like canned food, it doesn’t taste as good as the real thing. Chris Cornell might be able to teach Chad a thing or two about what a real rock and roll voice should sound like. It shouldn’t sound like some constipated angry person straining to take a dump.

Sorry Travis, misunderstood your connotation of sad. But in that sense I do agree it is sad.
Just to give you some background on why there are a lot of bands hashing out similar music, I knew a WB creative exec who was involved in signing Lincoln Park and she said that since LP became popular they had talent scouts on the look out for similar sounding bands. These creative execs are not really creative. She held a law degree and had no real musical background other than being a so called fan of music. But from a career standpoint playing it safe was job security. If you are a career band then you tend to play up to what flavor of the month a record label is hoping to sign.

As does Tangled by Maroon 5 (2002), but Catch Me Now I’m Falling (1979) in turn sounds kind of like Ebony Eyes by Bob Welch (1977). Anyway, Nickelback used that sort of riff or motif several times, also being found in Figured You Out and I think Follow You Home. But they weren’t the only ones to use it, check out Original Sin by INXS (1984) and I’m sure I’ve also commented about a Johnny Cash song.