An Outrage!!!!! - Atheist Nexus2015-08-02T21:26:18Zhttp://atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/an-outrage?commentId=2182797%3AComment%3A2027037&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noMost people thought the same.…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-10-03:2182797:Comment:23099852013-10-03T03:58:15.620Zk.h. kyhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/khughes
<p>Most people thought the same. It was the racial make up that turned it in his favor. Had it been reversed Martin would have been convicted without a second thought. It's the same reason republicans are so disrespectful to our president. They can say it's not racist all they want but it's flat out racism that's behind all this bullshit political fighting. I don't understand it. Tea party my ass. They may as well call themselves the kkk. The only bills that have passed are some crap…</p>
<p>Most people thought the same. It was the racial make up that turned it in his favor. Had it been reversed Martin would have been convicted without a second thought. It's the same reason republicans are so disrespectful to our president. They can say it's not racist all they want but it's flat out racism that's behind all this bullshit political fighting. I don't understand it. Tea party my ass. They may as well call themselves the kkk. The only bills that have passed are some crap about renaming a bridge or some nonsense.</p>
<p>They should be ashamed of themselves, They represent only 16% of the people but obstruct any effort to further anything, for anyone, in the US. </p> The discussion hasn't stopped…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-10-03:2182797:Comment:23099632013-10-03T03:04:41.607Zk.h. kyhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/khughes
<p>The discussion hasn't stopped in the US. Although discuss is all the damned polititians ever do. The day Zimmerman got off for murdering an unarmed black teen(,about two months ago??) was a sad day indeed. Along with all the school shootings. Elementary school children being murdered.. in their school. Everyone is angry but the damned polititians just want to keep raking in money from the gun lobbyist. Liars and thieves. The whole bunch of them are liars and thieves.</p>
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<p>The discussion hasn't stopped in the US. Although discuss is all the damned polititians ever do. The day Zimmerman got off for murdering an unarmed black teen(,about two months ago??) was a sad day indeed. Along with all the school shootings. Elementary school children being murdered.. in their school. Everyone is angry but the damned polititians just want to keep raking in money from the gun lobbyist. Liars and thieves. The whole bunch of them are liars and thieves.</p>
<p>I'm a gun owner but if giving the damned thing up would stop some of this senseless,out of control, violence, I would cheerfully hand it over.</p>
<p> </p> Patricia, those things don't…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-10-01:2182797:Comment:23093432013-10-01T23:18:05.632ZDaniel Whttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Daniel57
<p>Patricia, those things don't happen much, maybe once a year. But if guns were added to the mix.... terrible. It would escalate the situation significantly.</p>
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<p>I don't believe in getting into risky situations either. Bad things can still happen but I don't think there is any evidence that freely available guns reduce crime or improve safety.</p>
<p>Patricia, those things don't happen much, maybe once a year. But if guns were added to the mix.... terrible. It would escalate the situation significantly.</p>
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<p>I don't believe in getting into risky situations either. Bad things can still happen but I don't think there is any evidence that freely available guns reduce crime or improve safety.</p> The man wanted his gun, in la…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-10-01:2182797:Comment:23092622013-10-01T21:32:46.185ZLuarahttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Luara
<p>The man wanted his gun, in large part <em>to protect his wife</em>. There is a realistic danger to a woman in an isolated area, even if she has a man with her. </p>
<p>His depiction of the situation does seem threatening. Isolated area, two men approach, block their path, they are aggressive, don't go away when the couple is disinterested. For people to pile on and ridicule him is way off base. </p>
<p>And, if <em>you</em> as a woman are OK with staying out of wild open areas, that's OK…</p>
<p>The man wanted his gun, in large part <em>to protect his wife</em>. There is a realistic danger to a woman in an isolated area, even if she has a man with her. </p>
<p>His depiction of the situation does seem threatening. Isolated area, two men approach, block their path, they are aggressive, don't go away when the couple is disinterested. For people to pile on and ridicule him is way off base. </p>
<p>And, if <em>you</em> as a woman are OK with staying out of wild open areas, that's OK for <em>you. </em>I am not OK with being barred from natural areas. If I avoid the threat of rape or a beating or a rape + beating, by staying out of the natural areas that I love, I have ALSO been beaten and raped - in a different way.</p>
<p>The ridicule of this man for wanting to protect his wife - seems so oblivious of the situation of women. </p>
<p>Also, the Stampede organizers said they were NOT sending people out to offer free tickets. That was only a rumor. Nobody knows what the two guys had in mind. </p> It's an old discontent for me…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-10-01:2182797:Comment:23091732013-10-01T19:12:16.736ZLuarahttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Luara
<p>It's an old discontent for me that I can't as a woman be in an isolated natural area by myself, without being threatened. I used to spend time outdoors all by myself - but repeatedly I overheard men discussing whether to rape me. A guy did try to rape me once when I was out jogging - in an area I thought was safe, since I wandered all around there as a little girl. </p>
<p>Once I was wandering around with a boyfriend after dark, among grasses and shrubs, in a place I felt was safe. There…</p>
<p>It's an old discontent for me that I can't as a woman be in an isolated natural area by myself, without being threatened. I used to spend time outdoors all by myself - but repeatedly I overheard men discussing whether to rape me. A guy did try to rape me once when I was out jogging - in an area I thought was safe, since I wandered all around there as a little girl. </p>
<p>Once I was wandering around with a boyfriend after dark, among grasses and shrubs, in a place I felt was safe. There was a guy lurking nearby, however. We got out of there quickly and to a lighted area. He followed us out, hiding his face when he got to the light by bending down and pretending to tie his shoes. Having a big guy around only helps some. </p>
<p>It got a lot better after I got a big dog, but I still tried to hide my camping spots and hide myself so that men wouldn't know I was alone. I can easily imagine an attack starting with a seemingly harmless question.</p>
<p>Then I got incredibly allergic to dogs ...</p> However, you weren't there. …tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-10-01:2182797:Comment:23092572013-10-01T18:59:17.826ZLuarahttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Luara
<p>However, you weren't there. He described the two guys as quite aggressive. </p>
<p>An attack could easily start by approaching someone with a seemingly harmless question, to disarm their suspicions. </p>
<p>Again, I'm not saying that he should be allowed to carry a gun in Canada - but rather that a lot of people are casting judgement when they weren't there.</p>
<p>Many women are raped in places where they feel safe. Just because people think of the park as a safe place doesn't mean an…</p>
<p>However, you weren't there. He described the two guys as quite aggressive. </p>
<p>An attack could easily start by approaching someone with a seemingly harmless question, to disarm their suspicions. </p>
<p>Again, I'm not saying that he should be allowed to carry a gun in Canada - but rather that a lot of people are casting judgement when they weren't there.</p>
<p>Many women are raped in places where they feel safe. Just because people think of the park as a safe place doesn't mean an attack can't happen there. </p> I didn't say the dog was for…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-10-01:2182797:Comment:23092562013-10-01T18:55:36.211ZLuarahttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Luara
<p>I didn't say the dog was for protection, I said the photo shows a (probably) woman walking <em>with a dog</em> in an isolated area. She is protected by the dog, even if it isn't a trained guard dog. People hesitate to attack someone with a dog. </p>
<p>If women regularly walk around in that big isolated area in Nose Hill Park without a dog or any kind of weapon, and they feel safe - that is some kind of paradise. Not true in any city I've lived in, and even in the small and relatively…</p>
<p>I didn't say the dog was for protection, I said the photo shows a (probably) woman walking <em>with a dog</em> in an isolated area. She is protected by the dog, even if it isn't a trained guard dog. People hesitate to attack someone with a dog. </p>
<p>If women regularly walk around in that big isolated area in Nose Hill Park without a dog or any kind of weapon, and they feel safe - that is some kind of paradise. Not true in any city I've lived in, and even in the small and relatively safe town where I live now, I would need to run for it if a pair of male strangers got in front of me, too close and acting aggressive. </p> Being a police officer is dif…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-10-01:2182797:Comment:23093302013-10-01T18:28:10.639ZLuarahttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Luara
<p>Being a police officer is different from working in a medical office. He would have extensive training with guns. And if a police officer pulls out his gun or has his hand on it, that doesn't mean he's going to use it. </p>
<p>I don't necessarily think he should be allowed to carry a gun in Canada, but he's entitled to express his opinions and his feeling of threat. </p>
<p>A person who's a tourist and doesn't know the place, would feel more threatened too. He has no way of knowing if the…</p>
<p>Being a police officer is different from working in a medical office. He would have extensive training with guns. And if a police officer pulls out his gun or has his hand on it, that doesn't mean he's going to use it. </p>
<p>I don't necessarily think he should be allowed to carry a gun in Canada, but he's entitled to express his opinions and his feeling of threat. </p>
<p>A person who's a tourist and doesn't know the place, would feel more threatened too. He has no way of knowing if the park is safe or not. </p> That is so messed up....tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-10-01:2182797:Comment:23091542013-10-01T15:57:07.706ZJessica Chenhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/JessicaChen
<p>That is so messed up....</p>
<p>That is so messed up....</p> Good discussion - I am enjoyi…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-10-01:2182797:Comment:23091482013-10-01T14:52:04.316ZSteph S.http://atheistnexus.org/profile/StephS
<p>Good discussion - I am enjoying the responses here</p>
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<p>Good discussion - I am enjoying the responses here</p>
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