Blood Bowl is back and from the reports we’ve heard about it is going to get a lot of support from GW.

I have no idea why a game about American Football created by Brits is so good… but it is!

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The first segment we chat a bit about how to save time when putting together and painting your genestealer cult army list by adding in some figures you already have that have synergy with the army. This can be as easy as adding in a few flying Hive Tyrants. Unlike a lot of horde armies the GSC pack a pretty good punch. You aren’t looking to rely just on your number of bodies.

We are also pretty excited for the new Blood Bowl game. The figures look great. The game design has always been solid. To have this back in plastic and supported is great! GW is really giving us what we’re asking for product wise. I have a few star players that I am anxious to get back on the pitch.

GW has made some great single box games over the years, all the way up to the these new 30k games. The company is not just a 6×4 table top company. Having them turn their attention back to these sorts of things is only good for us.

In the second half of the show we get our hands on a listener submitted Ork list. You heard that right, orks.. They lack a lot of the fancy bells and whistles that some of the other armies have but the proposed list has a bit of straight forward design that could possibly give the power lists out there some issues.

The Finishing Moves segment is sponsored by Gamemat.eu. Their Industrial Terrain set is great and they offer a product that is pre-painted. This, combined with their mats, is a great way to get playing with professional looking game boards fast.

The hobby segment is all about basing. Before your figure is done you’ve gotta base it. I suggest three different elements on the base to really help the over all look of your figures. This is easier than you think. The GW textured paints are a prefect start but there are plenty of quick out of the box solutions for this. We hope you enjoy the segment!

FTN mostly focuses on Warhammer 40k, but again you will see in the first few episodes we take a severe deep dive into nerdom. These have been a blast to record and I hope they help pass the time for you.

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Mordheim was easily the best GW boxed game I’ve ever bought back in the 90’s. Still play it today periodically. Still have the original Skaven and Human warband plastics. Played it for years with great pleasure.

This. 100x. Played necromunda, BFG, Mordheim, Warmaster, Epic, etc. Mordheim was just awesome. Progression was fun. And the town criers, free in White Dwarves, were just awesome. It’s one of the few games there’s always a league running somewhere.

Gorkamorka will always have a fond place in my heart. Been playing Orks ever since.

The_Illusionist

Despite having put more hours into Blood Bowl (thanks mostly to the vidya games) my heart ultimately belongs to Necromunda.

Everything about it was perfect. The models – some of the best work GW ever did, came in the Necromunda range. The scenery – I have been coveting my plastic bulkheads and building entire cities with them for decades now, and they’re still as good as they ever were. The rules….

….are an acquired taste, granted…. But then, who doesn’t like levelling up their characters and being able to pick a skill off the “Ferooity Skills” table? =P

Easily one of the best games to have been squandered by any company. All of the expansions they could have made, all of the adaptations (such as a Necromunda video game using a PvP-enabled X-Com engine, anyone?) and all of the technology that could have been continued for the good of the players (such as the afore-mentioned “build your own battlefield” plastic bulkheads) just pissed up the wall along side genuine dregs like Epic 40k and Man’O’War….

SupPupPup

I enjoy mordheim the most.

benn grimm

Man o war or necromunda, both are still awesome twenty years on.

Emperor’s Champion

I know I’ll probably get torn to pieces for this, but I really liked Dread fleet.

Talos2

It wasn’t as bad as some would like to claim.

bobrunnicles

It wasn’t a bad game and the models were incredible. What killed it was being a standalone with no potential for expansion when what most people were hoping for was Man O’War Mk II.

Talos2

As a one off game necromunda was probably the best of gws smaller games, it was a genuinely interesting skirmish game. Bloodbowl probably was always meant as a beer and pretzels (crisps as it was the 90s) type game. Great again as one off games that you play from time to time. Both though had an issue when playing experienced gangs/teams against newbs, you just got murdered. Literally. Mordheim was a good step in the right direction with that issue.
Warmaster lasted about a week in my area so I couldn’t comment on that. Same with gorkamorka. I never liked gothic aesthetically so I never got into that either. Though now I love it. Odd.

Alistair Collins

Wow, good list of the old “other” games but you missed out on Space Marine / Titan Legions.

bobrunnicles

Probably left out because for a long time it was one of the ‘big three’ along with Warhammer Fantasy and 40K. Unfortunately they killed it by streamlining it too much with Epic 40K; it worked for 40K 3rd Ed but failed completely for Epic:(

nurglitch

The irony being that they re-skinned the rules with the nit-gritty people missed from 2nd edition and created Epic: Armageddon, one of the best wargame rules period.

bobrunnicles

Agreed. At that point though it had no handy ‘get started’ box – if you didn’t already play it was tough to know what to get if you wanted to try it out.

nurglitch

True, but given what happened with Epic 40,000, I’d imagine getting Epic: Armageddon produced was a business of pulling teeth.

Nyyppä

Hero Quest. BB is nice but I actually remember snippets from my HQ games from the….80s?

kobalt60

I think it has to be necromunda, followed closely, very closely by bloodbowl. Warhammer Quest beats out mordheim for third. That said, i’d happily play any of those 4 anytime i had the chance

Karru

Only one I can really say is Space Hulk. It was very fun and scales pretty well. If you want to play a really quick game to show it off in a Con for example, you can play one of the first missions. If you want to have a nice drinking night game with your friends, you can split the terminators nicely amongst them and see who dies first. It’s amazing fun and the models are superb.

I’d really love to say one of the other games that people have said here, like Necromunda or Mordheim, but unfortunately by the time I started collecting seriously, those were fading out from the Store.

Stephen James Hand

Has to be Man O’ War. The fleets were completely unbalanced but I’ve never had more fun playing a GW game than I did playing this one. Also, the games were quick enrules were simple enough that you could rope ‘normals’ who haven’t been indoctrinated into the whole tabletop wargaming thing into a quick game and they’d have fun, but the packaged scenarios and experience system made it replayable too.

Honourable mentions have to go to:

Blood Bowl – Still playing BB / DZ 3rd Edition with only a few house rules and Internet team lists & Star Players thrown in to spice it up over 20 years on, can’t fault that!

Heroquest & Space Crusade for their role in putting my innocent 8 year old self on the road to Sci Fi / Fantasy nerddom.

Space Marine / Titan Legions – Great models and a great rule system, I never got why they never brought in the ‘each player moves one unit at time’ thing over to other games, it worked a lot better

One game I always wanted to get round to playing but never have (so far) is Warhammer Quest, it looked like exactly the game I was hankering for when I grew out of HeroQuest and wanted something more involved, if it had been around when I was 12 I’d have been all over it.

Ross Allan

Bloodbowl and Space Hulk for me, with honourable mentions for the likes of Tyranid Attack.
Mostly because they were about as self-contained as GW could manage. Sure, BB had additional teams, and Space Hulk was soon expanded, but the contents of their boxes were all you needed. No need for an expansive gaming table and scenery. No need to really build on the contents (spesh Space Hulk).
Compare that to Necromunda, Mordheim et al (fine games, not knocking that and never would). It’s just not the same. You need a tabletop. The gang level games also required lots of terrain (lots and lots of terrain, and a good variety thereof).

Agent of Change

BB and Spacehulk were and remain the best most self contained games. Solid rule sets, replay-ability and complete ‘play out of the box’ experience.

Much of the rest deserve honorable mentions sure, but the trophy goes to those two.

Krizzab

epic 40k best box ever. ther rules were a bit meh, but the box was awesome.

Darksied

I can’t believe I’m the only Dark Future fan to speak up so far

surfpenguin

Dark Future gets my vote as well…

Satyan Patel

Deathwatch Overkill for me. The first 40k boxed game I have ever fully played and with my kids. I think just playing my kids was most of the entertainment. All the other board games in the past I’ve seen as I used to walk by the local game shops and peer in watching others plays, but couldn’t afford.