We have an assumption that "nice" and "shy" correlate. Next, the idea that girls always "run away" from "nice guys." Finally, that "nice guys" are eternally placed in the "friend zone." Given how incredibly flawed these concepts are, I cannot support the notion regarding "nice guys" being "love shy." Right off the bat, I consider this ridiculous.

I guess a "nice guy" is an opinionated thing. To me it would be someone who isn't narrow minded, who isn't overly greedy and who is genuine. I'm not sure if shyness has any relevance with with being nice.

Everyone has a chance with love and girls. It's not that nice guys don't have a chance. It all has to do with confidence. And while it may seem that those really shy guys are super nice at first glance they may not be. How would you know since they never talk that much? I was really shy and used to get upset that all the girls seemed to like all these jerks and overlooked nice guys like me. But how in the world are they supposed to even look your way if you're hiding in a corner? How are they supposed to notice you if your eyes are glued to the floor and you're hiding? How is that supposed to work if you won't talk, won't get out on the dance floor and won't have some fun? Just being nice isn't enough because I'm pretty sure all those guys you thought were jerks are also nice guys in their own ways. Everyone does stupid things or makes mistakes so just because they do something here and there that makes them seem like a jerk doesn't necessarily mean they are. I think most of us "nice" guys were a bit self centered. Instead of thinking about others we were absorbed with ourselves. At least I believe I was. Who in the world would want to just sit at home with me? Who cares if I'm nice? If I have No confidence in myself then how in the world is any girl ever going to feel confident around me or have confidence in me or our relationship? That's pretty self centered to want to put my problems onto someone else. To think that if they would only give me a chance then they'd see how much better I am than those jerks. That's an extremely self centered way to think. It's also not very nice.

It's not that nice guys don't stand a chance. There are plenty of nice guys out there with women. It's that in a lot of cases shy guys don't stand a chance. And to be honest most of us weren't the nicest of guys. If you think a girl should just choose you because you're super nice compared to the jerks she's dating then give her a reason to see that. Give her a reason to choose you. Maybe actually ask her out or something. Put yourself out there. Actually talk to her. She's not going to get a revelation sent from Buddha that you're an awesomely nice person and just start going out with you out of thin air. If you want to stand a chance then you have to make your own magic. Plus thinking that those other guys are all "jerks" is a very self centered thing to do and it actually makes you NOT a nice guy. Think about it for a bit. In a war of nice vs confident, confidence will win nearly every single time. There's no reason you can't be nice and confident.

As someone who would fit under the "Nice guy" category...not that i want to call myself a nice guy that kind of makes me seem like i'm not a nice person (plus hurt me or my friends and i would fit under the category of "Demon") i can tell you from my experience those who are nice aren't love shy it's more the point that people would rather go for those with good looks or money and those who are assholes and disrespectful (Seriously never understood this but its very frequent in my town and online to the point that it confuses me but i'm not bitter about it everyone deserves love even assholes)

That being said why would you want to date someone who would give those types of guys the time of day

All it takes to be a nice guy is to respect others and be kind and go out of your way to help others when you can which alot of us do ( i hope ) unless your view of a nice guy is different to mine then .