Chancellor must focus on out of work youngsters in his spring Budget, says business group

THE North-East faces the prospect of a “lost generation” unless the Chancellor focuses his efforts on youth unemployment in the next Budget, a leading business group warned last night.

Almost one in four of young people aged 16 to 24 in the regoin are out of work with a youth unemployment rate of 24.2 per cent – and the young generation is being squeezed by higher living costs.

The youth unemployment rate is the highest in the UK outside London, where it stood at 24.4 per cent in the last quarter of 2013. Yorkshire and the Humber is lower at 22.4 per cent.

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Youngsters across the country are three times as likely to be out of work as the rest of the UK population.

The British Chambers of Commerce (BCC) last night suggested a set of proposals to help drive down youth unemployment across the UK, saying it was responding to employers’ concerns about how work-ready young people were and a “deficient” education system.

It said growing jobs, improving skills and encouraging enterprise among young people was crucial to securing future growth.

Its call came as a youth campaign charity issued a report which showed that of those young people who were employed, the pay gap between the under 21s and over 50s had ballooned by 50 per cent in the last 15 years, while people in their 20s had seen rents rise by more than a third.

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The Intergenerational Foundation, (IF) which last year said the North-East of England was the worst place in the UK to be young because of its high youth unemployment and low political engagement levels, said that the youngest workers were being hit hardest as the pay gap widens.

Liz Emerson, co-founder of IF, said: “Our research clearly demonstrates that the under-21s are being squeezed by falling wages and higher living costs compared to older colleagues.

“Urgent action is needed to ensure North-East young people in particular, are given greater support in the form of cheaper travel to work, better pay and lower housing and living costs.”

She described the young as the “new poor” and said policy makers had to do more to protect them.

The BCC, in a submission to Chancellor George Osborne ahead of next month’s Budget, proposed tax relief for those investing in companies run by young entrepreneurs who often struggle to obtain finance from other sources such as banks.

Proposals also include a £100m future workforce grant scheme to give 1,000 payments to firms hiring long-term unemployed people or a new apprentice, to create 100,000 new jobs this year.

The organisation is also calling for a two-year extension to a successful scheme giving apprenticeship grants to employers, to help create 80,000 additional apprenticeships.

BCC director general John Longworth aid: “Businesses across Britain tell me they want to hire young people. Yet many cannot afford to take the risk, especially at a time when other, more qualified applicants are coming forward for the job vacancies on offer.

“If the Chancellor wants to avoid a lost generation among today’s 16-24 year-olds, he must use the spring Budget to help businesses take on and train up young people, whether they are going straight into jobs or into apprenticeships.

“Getting young people into employment is vital, pressing and easily affordable right now.”

He said the BCC proposals would cost less than seven per cent of the Government’s spending on overseas aid last year.

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No-one from the North East Chamber of Commerce was available for comment yesterday, but chief executive James Ramsbotham said last year that it was “vital” that vocational pathways like apprenticeships were not overlooked.

The new Bishop of Durham, the Right Reverend Paul Butler, who was enthroned on Saturday in Durham Cathedral, said one of his priorities in his new role was to look at youth unemployment.

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Chancellor must focus on out of work youngsters in his spring Budget, says business group

Savant_NE says...7:03pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Companies and Charities surely can take on a youngster for £2.50/hr in exchange for training and something to put on their CV.Back in the 70-80's there was a YTS in virually every department of large organisations.Also,t he Government have 'excluded' many from Universities by the shear expense.Yet how many apprentices are employed by local government departments .Local governments are looking to cut at every opportunity,surely there could be a link between getting youth training and local services support.

Companies and Charities surely can take on a youngster for £2.50/hr in exchange for training and something to put on their CV.Back in the 70-80's there was a YTS in virually every department of large organisations.Also,t
he Government have 'excluded' many from Universities by the shear expense.Yet how many apprentices are employed by local government departments .Local governments are looking to cut at every opportunity,surely there could be a link between getting youth training and local services support.Savant_NE

Companies and Charities surely can take on a youngster for £2.50/hr in exchange for training and something to put on their CV.Back in the 70-80's there was a YTS in virually every department of large organisations.Also,t he Government have 'excluded' many from Universities by the shear expense.Yet how many apprentices are employed by local government departments .Local governments are looking to cut at every opportunity,surely there could be a link between getting youth training and local services support.

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settheworldonfire says...7:24pm Sun 23 Feb 14

It does not help when most of them sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing x boxes and playstations... There should be schemes running now that takes them off the streets and make them work for the benefits they receive...

It does not help when most of them sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing x boxes and playstations... There should be schemes running now that takes them off the streets and make them work for the benefits they receive...settheworldonfire

It does not help when most of them sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing x boxes and playstations... There should be schemes running now that takes them off the streets and make them work for the benefits they receive...

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sineater says...7:28pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Most of them? exactly how many? and how do you get away with spying on them instead of working ?

Most of them? exactly how many? and how do you get away with spying on them instead of working ?sineater

Most of them? exactly how many? and how do you get away with spying on them instead of working ?

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Jonn says...8:01pm Sun 23 Feb 14

settheworldonfire wrote…

It does not help when most of them sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing x boxes and playstations... There should be schemes running now that takes them off the streets and make them work for the benefits they receive...

Your comment got me thinking so I looked up ONS figures for youth unemployment. Youth unemployment has risen in each of the last three recessions and the immediate years following their end. The recent peak of 1.1 million young unemployed compares with peaks of 924,000 in 1993 and 1.2 million in 1984. Did most of the young sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing on their x boxes 20/30 years ago too then?

[quote][p][bold]settheworldonfire[/bold] wrote:
It does not help when most of them sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing x boxes and playstations... There should be schemes running now that takes them off the streets and make them work for the benefits they receive...[/p][/quote]Your comment got me thinking so I looked up ONS figures for youth unemployment.
Youth unemployment has risen in each of the last three recessions and the immediate years following their end. The recent peak of 1.1 million young unemployed compares with peaks of 924,000 in 1993 and 1.2 million in 1984.
Did most of the young sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing on their x boxes 20/30 years ago too then?Jonn

settheworldonfire wrote…

It does not help when most of them sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing x boxes and playstations... There should be schemes running now that takes them off the streets and make them work for the benefits they receive...

Your comment got me thinking so I looked up ONS figures for youth unemployment. Youth unemployment has risen in each of the last three recessions and the immediate years following their end. The recent peak of 1.1 million young unemployed compares with peaks of 924,000 in 1993 and 1.2 million in 1984. Did most of the young sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing on their x boxes 20/30 years ago too then?

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Jackaranda says...8:15pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Jonn wrote…

settheworldonfire wrote…

It does not help when most of them sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing x boxes and playstations... There should be schemes running now that takes them off the streets and make them work for the benefits they receive...

Your comment got me thinking so I looked up ONS figures for youth unemployment. Youth unemployment has risen in each of the last three recessions and the immediate years following their end. The recent peak of 1.1 million young unemployed compares with peaks of 924,000 in 1993 and 1.2 million in 1984. Did most of the young sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing on their x boxes 20/30 years ago too then?

No, the x box was only introduced this Century, you should extend your research prior to asking imbecilic questions.

[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]settheworldonfire[/bold] wrote:
It does not help when most of them sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing x boxes and playstations... There should be schemes running now that takes them off the streets and make them work for the benefits they receive...[/p][/quote]Your comment got me thinking so I looked up ONS figures for youth unemployment.
Youth unemployment has risen in each of the last three recessions and the immediate years following their end. The recent peak of 1.1 million young unemployed compares with peaks of 924,000 in 1993 and 1.2 million in 1984.
Did most of the young sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing on their x boxes 20/30 years ago too then?[/p][/quote]No, the x box was only introduced this Century, you should extend your research prior to asking imbecilic questions.Jackaranda

Jonn wrote…

settheworldonfire wrote…

It does not help when most of them sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing x boxes and playstations... There should be schemes running now that takes them off the streets and make them work for the benefits they receive...

Your comment got me thinking so I looked up ONS figures for youth unemployment. Youth unemployment has risen in each of the last three recessions and the immediate years following their end. The recent peak of 1.1 million young unemployed compares with peaks of 924,000 in 1993 and 1.2 million in 1984. Did most of the young sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing on their x boxes 20/30 years ago too then?

No, the x box was only introduced this Century, you should extend your research prior to asking imbecilic questions.

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Jonn says...8:38pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Jackaranda wrote…

Jonn wrote…

settheworldonfire wrote…

It does not help when most of them sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing x boxes and playstations... There should be schemes running now that takes them off the streets and make them work for the benefits they receive...

Your comment got me thinking so I looked up ONS figures for youth unemployment. Youth unemployment has risen in each of the last three recessions and the immediate years following their end. The recent peak of 1.1 million young unemployed compares with peaks of 924,000 in 1993 and 1.2 million in 1984. Did most of the young sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing on their x boxes 20/30 years ago too then?

No, the x box was only introduced this Century, you should extend your research prior to asking imbecilic questions.

I see sarcasm goes straight over your head then. Are you an American?

[quote][p][bold]Jackaranda[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]settheworldonfire[/bold] wrote:
It does not help when most of them sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing x boxes and playstations... There should be schemes running now that takes them off the streets and make them work for the benefits they receive...[/p][/quote]Your comment got me thinking so I looked up ONS figures for youth unemployment.
Youth unemployment has risen in each of the last three recessions and the immediate years following their end. The recent peak of 1.1 million young unemployed compares with peaks of 924,000 in 1993 and 1.2 million in 1984.
Did most of the young sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing on their x boxes 20/30 years ago too then?[/p][/quote]No, the x box was only introduced this Century, you should extend your research prior to asking imbecilic questions.[/p][/quote]I see sarcasm goes straight over your head then. Are you an American?Jonn

Jackaranda wrote…

Jonn wrote…

settheworldonfire wrote…

It does not help when most of them sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing x boxes and playstations... There should be schemes running now that takes them off the streets and make them work for the benefits they receive...

Your comment got me thinking so I looked up ONS figures for youth unemployment. Youth unemployment has risen in each of the last three recessions and the immediate years following their end. The recent peak of 1.1 million young unemployed compares with peaks of 924,000 in 1993 and 1.2 million in 1984. Did most of the young sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing on their x boxes 20/30 years ago too then?

No, the x box was only introduced this Century, you should extend your research prior to asking imbecilic questions.

I see sarcasm goes straight over your head then. Are you an American?

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sineater says...8:38pm Sun 23 Feb 14

They will never be given jobs,while they are still forced to work on job placements,employers have no incentive to employ young people when they get a endless stream of them working for free.

They will never be given jobs,while they are still forced to work on job placements,employers have no incentive to employ young people when they get a endless stream of them working for free.sineater

They will never be given jobs,while they are still forced to work on job placements,employers have no incentive to employ young people when they get a endless stream of them working for free.

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DURHAM CITY says...11:33pm Sun 23 Feb 14

sineater wrote…

They will never be given jobs,while they are still forced to work on job placements,employers have no incentive to employ young people when they get a endless stream of them working for free.

what did the Pathetic Labour party do about it all them years Oh yeah you just stop at home and we will pay your benefits they must of felt guilty for the pathetic shambles of an Education System that failed young people in the first place fools

[quote][p][bold]sineater[/bold] wrote:
They will never be given jobs,while they are still forced to work on job placements,employers have no incentive to employ young people when they get a endless stream of them working for free.[/p][/quote]what did the Pathetic Labour party do about it all them years Oh yeah you just stop at home and we will pay your benefits they must of felt guilty for the pathetic shambles of an Education System that failed young people in the first place foolsDURHAM CITY

sineater wrote…

They will never be given jobs,while they are still forced to work on job placements,employers have no incentive to employ young people when they get a endless stream of them working for free.

what did the Pathetic Labour party do about it all them years Oh yeah you just stop at home and we will pay your benefits they must of felt guilty for the pathetic shambles of an Education System that failed young people in the first place fools

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Spy Boy says...12:01am Mon 24 Feb 14

Young people need to have jobs that suit their abilities. Once there were jobs for everyone when they left school, apart from the most dedicated skivers. In those pre-Thatcher Days, kids had a choice and had been properly educated. The likes of Gove is wrecking the education system and probably even the teaching staff have no clear idea of what's happening now and what is going to turn up next week. New Labour had a bad record too, but this Tory bunch take the biscuit. Give young people proper training and jobs and everything sorts itself out. It's really simple and it was working well through the 50's, 60's and 70's. Guess what fouled it all up in 1979. Yep, Thatcher and her band of vandals. We may never recover and it may well be more than a single lost generation. The Tories don't give a toss.

Young people need to have jobs that suit their abilities. Once there were jobs for everyone when they left school, apart from the most dedicated skivers. In those pre-Thatcher Days, kids had a choice and had been properly educated. The likes of Gove is wrecking the education system and probably even the teaching staff have no clear idea of what's happening now and what is going to turn up next week. New Labour had a bad record too, but this Tory bunch take the biscuit.
Give young people proper training and jobs and everything sorts itself out. It's really simple and it was working well through the 50's, 60's and 70's. Guess what fouled it all up in 1979. Yep, Thatcher and her band of vandals. We may never recover and it may well be more than a single lost generation. The Tories don't give a toss.Spy Boy

Young people need to have jobs that suit their abilities. Once there were jobs for everyone when they left school, apart from the most dedicated skivers. In those pre-Thatcher Days, kids had a choice and had been properly educated. The likes of Gove is wrecking the education system and probably even the teaching staff have no clear idea of what's happening now and what is going to turn up next week. New Labour had a bad record too, but this Tory bunch take the biscuit. Give young people proper training and jobs and everything sorts itself out. It's really simple and it was working well through the 50's, 60's and 70's. Guess what fouled it all up in 1979. Yep, Thatcher and her band of vandals. We may never recover and it may well be more than a single lost generation. The Tories don't give a toss.

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laboursfoe says...8:18am Mon 24 Feb 14

DURHAM CITY wrote…

sineater wrote…

They will never be given jobs,while they are still forced to work on job placements,employers have no incentive to employ young people when they get a endless stream of them working for free.

what did the Pathetic Labour party do about it all them years Oh yeah you just stop at home and we will pay your benefits they must of felt guilty for the pathetic shambles of an Education System that failed young people in the first place fools

Labour have a real hatred of employers therefore they wouldn't put in incentives to hire young people. Many of these kids are naturally bright but just badly motivated or lack the direction to define their own path. Part of that will be down to the parents who no doubt whinge and moan about their jobs in front of them, who are probably sneering about being held down by a director who has just got a new car and earns so much!! It is also partly down to an education system that is based on an 'everyone gets a prize' approach. That works in primary school but secondary education has to show kids that it is a competitive world out there, nothing is for free and you get out what you put in. Sineater, when businesses release jobs it is usually based on some kind of productivity formula, demand for services and ability to expand. They can't just create jobs for the sake of creating jobs.

[quote][p][bold]DURHAM CITY[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]sineater[/bold] wrote:
They will never be given jobs,while they are still forced to work on job placements,employers have no incentive to employ young people when they get a endless stream of them working for free.[/p][/quote]what did the Pathetic Labour party do about it all them years Oh yeah you just stop at home and we will pay your benefits they must of felt guilty for the pathetic shambles of an Education System that failed young people in the first place fools[/p][/quote]Labour have a real hatred of employers therefore they wouldn't put in incentives to hire young people.
Many of these kids are naturally bright but just badly motivated or lack the direction to define their own path. Part of that will be down to the parents who no doubt whinge and moan about their jobs in front of them, who are probably sneering about being held down by a director who has just got a new car and earns so much!!
It is also partly down to an education system that is based on an 'everyone gets a prize' approach. That works in primary school but secondary education has to show kids that it is a competitive world out there, nothing is for free and you get out what you put in.
Sineater, when businesses release jobs it is usually based on some kind of productivity formula, demand for services and ability to expand. They can't just create jobs for the sake of creating jobs.laboursfoe

DURHAM CITY wrote…

sineater wrote…

They will never be given jobs,while they are still forced to work on job placements,employers have no incentive to employ young people when they get a endless stream of them working for free.

what did the Pathetic Labour party do about it all them years Oh yeah you just stop at home and we will pay your benefits they must of felt guilty for the pathetic shambles of an Education System that failed young people in the first place fools

Labour have a real hatred of employers therefore they wouldn't put in incentives to hire young people. Many of these kids are naturally bright but just badly motivated or lack the direction to define their own path. Part of that will be down to the parents who no doubt whinge and moan about their jobs in front of them, who are probably sneering about being held down by a director who has just got a new car and earns so much!! It is also partly down to an education system that is based on an 'everyone gets a prize' approach. That works in primary school but secondary education has to show kids that it is a competitive world out there, nothing is for free and you get out what you put in. Sineater, when businesses release jobs it is usually based on some kind of productivity formula, demand for services and ability to expand. They can't just create jobs for the sake of creating jobs.

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Jackaranda says...8:24am Mon 24 Feb 14

Jonn wrote…

Jackaranda wrote…

Jonn wrote…

settheworldonfire wrote…

It does not help when most of them sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing x boxes and playstations... There should be schemes running now that takes them off the streets and make them work for the benefits they receive...

Your comment got me thinking so I looked up ONS figures for youth unemployment. Youth unemployment has risen in each of the last three recessions and the immediate years following their end. The recent peak of 1.1 million young unemployed compares with peaks of 924,000 in 1993 and 1.2 million in 1984. Did most of the young sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing on their x boxes 20/30 years ago too then?

No, the x box was only introduced this Century, you should extend your research prior to asking imbecilic questions.

I see sarcasm goes straight over your head then. Are you an American?

I must be, although I think you made a mistake and are trying to hide it using the sarcasm card. Hey don't imply I'm an American buddy, or al bust ya ****!! ;)

[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jackaranda[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]settheworldonfire[/bold] wrote:
It does not help when most of them sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing x boxes and playstations... There should be schemes running now that takes them off the streets and make them work for the benefits they receive...[/p][/quote]Your comment got me thinking so I looked up ONS figures for youth unemployment.
Youth unemployment has risen in each of the last three recessions and the immediate years following their end. The recent peak of 1.1 million young unemployed compares with peaks of 924,000 in 1993 and 1.2 million in 1984.
Did most of the young sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing on their x boxes 20/30 years ago too then?[/p][/quote]No, the x box was only introduced this Century, you should extend your research prior to asking imbecilic questions.[/p][/quote]I see sarcasm goes straight over your head then. Are you an American?[/p][/quote]I must be, although I think you made a mistake and are trying to hide it using the sarcasm card. Hey don't imply I'm an American buddy, or al bust ya ****!! ;)Jackaranda

Jonn wrote…

Jackaranda wrote…

Jonn wrote…

settheworldonfire wrote…

It does not help when most of them sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing x boxes and playstations... There should be schemes running now that takes them off the streets and make them work for the benefits they receive...

Your comment got me thinking so I looked up ONS figures for youth unemployment. Youth unemployment has risen in each of the last three recessions and the immediate years following their end. The recent peak of 1.1 million young unemployed compares with peaks of 924,000 in 1993 and 1.2 million in 1984. Did most of the young sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing on their x boxes 20/30 years ago too then?

No, the x box was only introduced this Century, you should extend your research prior to asking imbecilic questions.

I see sarcasm goes straight over your head then. Are you an American?

I must be, although I think you made a mistake and are trying to hide it using the sarcasm card. Hey don't imply I'm an American buddy, or al bust ya ****!! ;)

Score: 0

Jonn says...10:20am Mon 24 Feb 14

1 million on the work programme also. How many real jobs has that killed off? Government pay companys thousands per person to take these people on and only 1 in 10 end up with a job at the end.

1 million on the work programme also. How many real jobs has that killed off? Government pay companys thousands per person to take these people on and only 1 in 10 end up with a job at the end.Jonn

1 million on the work programme also. How many real jobs has that killed off? Government pay companys thousands per person to take these people on and only 1 in 10 end up with a job at the end.

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David Lacey says...11:49am Mon 24 Feb 14

The elephant in the room that nobody has spotted are the 5 million immigrants (legal and otherwise) working in the UK and doing jobs that our youngsters could have had.

The elephant in the room that nobody has spotted are the 5 million immigrants (legal and otherwise) working in the UK and doing jobs that our youngsters could have had.David Lacey

The elephant in the room that nobody has spotted are the 5 million immigrants (legal and otherwise) working in the UK and doing jobs that our youngsters could have had.

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settheworldonfire says...4:06pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Jonn wrote…

settheworldonfire wrote…

It does not help when most of them sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing x boxes and playstations... There should be schemes running now that takes them off the streets and make them work for the benefits they receive...

Your comment got me thinking so I looked up ONS figures for youth unemployment. Youth unemployment has risen in each of the last three recessions and the immediate years following their end. The recent peak of 1.1 million young unemployed compares with peaks of 924,000 in 1993 and 1.2 million in 1984. Did most of the young sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing on their x boxes 20/30 years ago too then?

YES I DID, AND SO DID 1 MILLION KIDS THEN AS WELL.... Everyone blames the government...There are plenty of jobs out there...That is if you can get off your backside and go and get one....Oh and by the way i own my own business now for a good amount of years....Looked to employ a young person...Guess what? Could not get 1 to apply....

[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]settheworldonfire[/bold] wrote:
It does not help when most of them sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing x boxes and playstations... There should be schemes running now that takes them off the streets and make them work for the benefits they receive...[/p][/quote]Your comment got me thinking so I looked up ONS figures for youth unemployment.
Youth unemployment has risen in each of the last three recessions and the immediate years following their end. The recent peak of 1.1 million young unemployed compares with peaks of 924,000 in 1993 and 1.2 million in 1984.
Did most of the young sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing on their x boxes 20/30 years ago too then?[/p][/quote]YES I DID, AND SO DID 1 MILLION KIDS THEN AS WELL....
Everyone blames the government...There are plenty of jobs out there...That is if you can get off your backside and go and get one....Oh and by the way i own my own business now for a good amount of years....Looked to employ a young person...Guess what? Could not get 1 to apply....settheworldonfire

Jonn wrote…

settheworldonfire wrote…

It does not help when most of them sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing x boxes and playstations... There should be schemes running now that takes them off the streets and make them work for the benefits they receive...

Your comment got me thinking so I looked up ONS figures for youth unemployment. Youth unemployment has risen in each of the last three recessions and the immediate years following their end. The recent peak of 1.1 million young unemployed compares with peaks of 924,000 in 1993 and 1.2 million in 1984. Did most of the young sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing on their x boxes 20/30 years ago too then?

YES I DID, AND SO DID 1 MILLION KIDS THEN AS WELL.... Everyone blames the government...There are plenty of jobs out there...That is if you can get off your backside and go and get one....Oh and by the way i own my own business now for a good amount of years....Looked to employ a young person...Guess what? Could not get 1 to apply....

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Jonn says...6:08pm Mon 24 Feb 14

David Lacey wrote…

The elephant in the room that nobody has spotted are the 5 million immigrants (legal and otherwise) working in the UK and doing jobs that our youngsters could have had.

According to a Home Office report in 2012, between 4.5 and 5.5 million UK born Brits live abroad.

[quote][p][bold]David Lacey[/bold] wrote:
The elephant in the room that nobody has spotted are the 5 million immigrants (legal and otherwise) working in the UK and doing jobs that our youngsters could have had.[/p][/quote]According to a Home Office report in 2012, between 4.5 and 5.5 million UK born Brits live abroad.Jonn

David Lacey wrote…

The elephant in the room that nobody has spotted are the 5 million immigrants (legal and otherwise) working in the UK and doing jobs that our youngsters could have had.

According to a Home Office report in 2012, between 4.5 and 5.5 million UK born Brits live abroad.

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Jonn says...8:30pm Mon 24 Feb 14

settheworldonfire wrote…

Jonn wrote…

settheworldonfire wrote…

It does not help when most of them sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing x boxes and playstations... There should be schemes running now that takes them off the streets and make them work for the benefits they receive...

Your comment got me thinking so I looked up ONS figures for youth unemployment. Youth unemployment has risen in each of the last three recessions and the immediate years following their end. The recent peak of 1.1 million young unemployed compares with peaks of 924,000 in 1993 and 1.2 million in 1984. Did most of the young sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing on their x boxes 20/30 years ago too then?

YES I DID, AND SO DID 1 MILLION KIDS THEN AS WELL.... Everyone blames the government...There are plenty of jobs out there...That is if you can get off your backside and go and get one....Oh and by the way i own my own business now for a good amount of years....Looked to employ a young person...Guess what? Could not get 1 to apply....

So, if you did the same yourself, what are you complaining about?

[quote][p][bold]settheworldonfire[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jonn[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]settheworldonfire[/bold] wrote:
It does not help when most of them sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing x boxes and playstations... There should be schemes running now that takes them off the streets and make them work for the benefits they receive...[/p][/quote]Your comment got me thinking so I looked up ONS figures for youth unemployment.
Youth unemployment has risen in each of the last three recessions and the immediate years following their end. The recent peak of 1.1 million young unemployed compares with peaks of 924,000 in 1993 and 1.2 million in 1984.
Did most of the young sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing on their x boxes 20/30 years ago too then?[/p][/quote]YES I DID, AND SO DID 1 MILLION KIDS THEN AS WELL....
Everyone blames the government...There are plenty of jobs out there...That is if you can get off your backside and go and get one....Oh and by the way i own my own business now for a good amount of years....Looked to employ a young person...Guess what? Could not get 1 to apply....[/p][/quote]So, if you did the same yourself, what are you complaining about?Jonn

settheworldonfire wrote…

Jonn wrote…

settheworldonfire wrote…

It does not help when most of them sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing x boxes and playstations... There should be schemes running now that takes them off the streets and make them work for the benefits they receive...

Your comment got me thinking so I looked up ONS figures for youth unemployment. Youth unemployment has risen in each of the last three recessions and the immediate years following their end. The recent peak of 1.1 million young unemployed compares with peaks of 924,000 in 1993 and 1.2 million in 1984. Did most of the young sit around smoking dope, drinking and playing on their x boxes 20/30 years ago too then?

YES I DID, AND SO DID 1 MILLION KIDS THEN AS WELL.... Everyone blames the government...There are plenty of jobs out there...That is if you can get off your backside and go and get one....Oh and by the way i own my own business now for a good amount of years....Looked to employ a young person...Guess what? Could not get 1 to apply....

So, if you did the same yourself, what are you complaining about?

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DURHAM CITY says...2:03pm Wed 26 Feb 14

sineater wrote…

They will never be given jobs,while they are still forced to work on job placements,employers have no incentive to employ young people when they get a endless stream of them working for free.

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sineater wrote…

They will never be given jobs,while they are still forced to work on job placements,employers have no incentive to employ young people when they get a endless stream of them working for free.

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