> I would love a poster with the 14-bit instruction set, or die
> photographs, or anything else I can put in the classroom where I will
> give some PIC-programming courses. I asked an MC representative but he
> said they had nothing like this.
A poster showing a photo of the entire PIC18F452 or PIC16F877 die would be
nice. Maybe put an instruction set list for both chips underneath, along with
pinouts for the 18, 28 and 40-pin PICs.
If someone can get a few hi-res die photos off Microchip, I'd be happy to see
about designing something like that.
That, or if someone happens to have some PICs in bare-dice format and a
decent microscope/camera arrangement... I guess you'd have to get permission
off Microchip first though, seeing as it is their chip.

You might have an easier time getting a JW version of an older 18C chip
and removing the casing to take a picture. A common megapixel digital
camera with macro ought to be able to produce enough detail for a small
poster.

I don't beleive there would be any legal problems - I don't know what
the law is, but I doubt you can copyright images someone else takes of
your product or prevent such images from being taken. Except, perhaps,
in the digital realm where an 'image' of a music CD may contain a
working copy of the music...

>In message <000601c4592f$aae11830$0b00a8c0@PAARD>
> Wouter van Ooijen <wouterKILLspamVOTI.NL> wrote:
>
>
>
>>I would love a poster with the 14-bit instruction set, or die
>>photographs, or anything else I can put in the classroom where I will
>>give some PIC-programming courses. I asked an MC representative but he
>>said they had nothing like this.
>>
>>
>A poster showing a photo of the entire PIC18F452 or PIC16F877 die would be
>nice. Maybe put an instruction set list for both chips underneath, along with
>pinouts for the 18, 28 and 40-pin PICs.
>If someone can get a few hi-res die photos off Microchip, I'd be happy to see
>about designing something like that.
>That, or if someone happens to have some PICs in bare-dice format and a
>decent microscope/camera arrangement... I guess you'd have to get permission
>off Microchip first though, seeing as it is their chip.
>
>Later.
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>
>
>
>

> You might have an easier time getting a JW version of an older 18C chip
> and removing the casing to take a picture. A common megapixel digital
> camera with macro ought to be able to produce enough detail for a small
> poster.
>
> I don't beleive there would be any legal problems - I don't know what
> the law is, but I doubt you can copyright images someone else takes of
> your product or prevent such images from being taken. Except, perhaps,
> in the digital realm where an 'image' of a music CD may contain a
> working copy of the music...
>
> -Adam
>
> Philip Pemberton wrote:
>
> >In message <000601c4592f$aae11830$0b00a8c0@PAARD>
> > Wouter van Ooijen <KILLspamwouterKILLspamVOTI.NL> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>I would love a poster with the 14-bit instruction set, or die
> >>photographs, or anything else I can put in the classroom where I will
> >>give some PIC-programming courses. I asked an MC representative but he
> >>said they had nothing like this.
> >>
> >>
> >A poster showing a photo of the entire PIC18F452 or PIC16F877 die would

be
> >nice. Maybe put an instruction set list for both chips underneath, along
with
> >pinouts for the 18, 28 and 40-pin PICs.
> >If someone can get a few hi-res die photos off Microchip, I'd be happy to
see
> >about designing something like that.
> >That, or if someone happens to have some PICs in bare-dice format and a
> >decent microscope/camera arrangement... I guess you'd have to get
permission
> >off Microchip first though, seeing as it is their chip.
> >
> >Later.
> >--
> >Phil. | Acorn Risc PC600 Mk3, SA202, 64MB,
6GB,
> >RemoveMEphilpemTakeThisOuTdsl.pipex.com | ViewFinder, 10BaseT Ethernet, 2-slic
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If you do get into the chip successfully (I wonder if a milling machine
would work here), fasten a good quality magnifying glass onto the front of
the cammera lens somehow, and you will be able to focus very close up and
personal.