voters view this is negative formittromney. >>governor barbour, i want to put up achartrightnow.it comes from the "new york times" after that 47% comment right here, you see it right there, look at how it opens up in that last week and a half, that was damaging? >> well, it may well end being damaging. the biggest thing that's damaging mitt romney, this campaign is all about process, it's about polling, campaign management. it's about everything but the issues. it's about everything but obama policies. and the failures of those policies. >> how does that turn that around? >> stay totally focused on the fact for most americans, you can't tell the difference between the recession and the recovery. in fact, since this department data came out this last month, the average american family lost $2,500 of income during the obama recovery. they only lost $1,500 worth of income during the recession. no wonder they don't think that the recession is over. >> donna, that's kind of astonishing. the national journal put it as president obama defying gravity. income is going down. yet the pre

has to begovernorromneyhasto tie the poor economic conditions we find ourselvesinrightnowto the failure of the president's policies. he has to be able to litigate and make the case that the policies the president has put forward have caused the economy to continue to go down. folks believe the economy is bad right now but what they don't actually believe is it is the president's fault. he has to make that case in the debate with the president standing on the stage with him that the president is the one to blame for the economy we've got right now. >> there is something going on. if he acts too much on the attack, it will look like he is showing disrespect to the president but if he doesn't, then he looks defer yen shl. coach me, tell me how to walk on that stage -- deferential. coach me without being deferential? >> it's a matter of tone and how you address the president. as long as governor romney addresses the president with mr. president, your policies have failed the american people. i think as long as he carries a respectful tone. he needs to be what i would say as p

. >> chris: suppose that the doubtersarerightandpresidentromneytakesoffice and the math doesn't add up. >> i have run them in congress and they do. >> chris: let's assume it doesn't. the question is what is most important to romney? kale bacscale back in the 20% r the wealthy or scale back and say we have to raise taxes for the middle class? the question is what is most important to him in the tax reform plan? >> keeping tax rates down by lowering tax rates people keep more of the next dollar that they earn. that matters. sin cent ives and progrowth policy and creates 7 million jobs. >> chris: that is more important. >> more important than anything. and it is not what deductions are in the tax code but who gets them and don't forget that the higher income people have a disproportionate amount of the loopholes that they use. when you close a tax write-off or tax shelter for a higher income person more of their income is subject to taxation so you can lower tax rates. where we go is by denying the deductions and loopholes to higher income people which allows us is to lower tax rates for

disgustingly bias pieces againstmittromneyandi believe bill isexactlyright. whenbarack obama was challenged in that univision interview, last week, by hojorge ramos, he looks uncrtable when he's confronted with facts and simply worded question, when mitt romney reminds people, we have 11.7 unemployment, not 8.1%, america's best days have to be in front of her, i think he wins, not by having a, quote, human moment. i think that is a fool's earring but having a moment of real leadership and maturity. contrasted with a celebrity president who is comfortable with ellen or any of these late night hosts, than he is talking to the families of these insider attacks. i think romney has to be mature, and forceful, and has this idea, it is all in this debate, that is too convenient for the media. >> chris: juan, talk about it. but, because we kind of keep forgetting about obama. what does obama need to do. >> i think, president obama, he's leading in the polls, nationally and leading in the swing states. so, the question is, how do you reaffirm the existing status quo? >> you know, the

moments to make the one-liners catch and stick. all of the substance will get lost in theminutia.romneyneedsone worse than the president right now. >> instead of o owe is it like trying to figure out what the zinger is going to be that will get retweeted on a hash tag? >> yes, that it is. >> it makes me so sad. >> well, yes. as you said, the stakes are higher for mitt romney. keep this mind, this is a man who has been running for president for six years. >> right. >> it's come down to this one moment, this first debate on wednesday where he's got to change the trajectory of his campaign, of the narrative with at that point, what is it 35 days in the race. >>> yeah. >> you're the political scientist here. you're the nerd here at the table. just to my mind, i do not see how practically speaking mitt romney can change the trajectory and move his campaign into a positive position with so little time. >> you're a big nerd too. >> i am a nerdlander. the other thing is in the wake of the 47% comment, we'll need to see a lot of compassion out of romney. we don't cowboy tactics, don't act like

columnsrightnow.the fact of the matter is that in the end, this is going to be aboutgovernorromneyoverthe next four or five weeks. laying that vision out for folks. and you fknow, folks like us obsess about stuff like this the general public in new jersey and elsewhere are just beginning to tune into this race. they'll start tuning in on wednesday night. when they do, governor romney will lay out his vision for a better and greater america, for greater opportunity for all of our citizens. i think that's when you're going to see this race start to tighten and then move in governor romney's direction. >> up until now, governor, he has failed to enumerate any of the deductions he would eliminate in order to make the math work on his deficit plan. and his tax plan. are we going to get those details in the course of the debate? >> well, you know, david, i wish you guys were just as tough on the president. the president says he's going to create a million new manufacturing jobs. it doesn't say how. he says he's going to reduce the long-term debt and deficit by $4 trillion, it doesn't s

the xiag for the obamaadministrationrightnow.he wanted to remind votersthatromneyandryan would take us back to the bush era policies that got us into this mess. so he says. listen.... >> the last they were charged, congressman ryan voted for and governor romney approved, said he agreed with all the things that were done. when is the last time around? last time around, what caused this national debt? how did this all of a sudden happen? when he left we had a balanced budget and things were looking good. >> alisyn: this is just the drum beating for the next four years. >> that is too easy to fact check. president bush there is plenty of blame for overspending but nothing compared to the last three years. it was ten trillion we're now well over 16. >> not just president bush but paul ryan had some of these votes, medicare but the debt number is sticking in, under president obama $35.6 trillion increase in three years of his presidency compared to president bush's nearly 5 years over eight years. >> dave: both are bad but in retrospect. >> alisyn: do you think it's possible the day afte

mitt romney is an experienced debater. he has been through this many times.andromney's campaignis saying obama gione of the best speakers to walk the earth, ever. >> we talked about this earlier, talking about biden's sharp special witty. even the number twos are doing a lot of praising right now. but for the most part, what we have heard is the managing of expectations. sort of the white house and the campaign, on the 'bama campaign suggesting that the president is rusty and hasn't debated anybody in four years. what do you make of that? >> president obama has been thinking that mitt romney would be his opponent, his entire presidency because mitt romney has been running for so long. but by the time the debate comes on wednesday night, both of the men will have had five straight days of prep preparation. they will be plenty prepared. they have everything they want to say -- >> i am having nightmare flashbacks. charlie, what do you think that the candidates need to be to be considered quote/unquote the winner? or will they both claim victory regardless? >> i don't think we will

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