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The national talking heads are already spinning this to say that Spurrier was bashing Clowneys work eithic.

Cowherd said he has a source close to our school saying that Clowney had to always be watched closely and he was immature and not a leader, etc.

He sounded very mature when I talked with him on the phone Saturday night very nice guy. He was in town at longhorns my buddy was chilling with him there I called my buddy cause he told me he was sitting right next to him and he gave the phone to jd and we chatted for a couple of minutes. Highlight of my night

He sounded very mature when I talked with him on the phone Saturday night very nice guy. He was in town at longhorns my buddy was chilling with him there I called my buddy cause he told me he was sitting right next to him and he gave the phone to jd and we chatted for a couple of minutes. Highlight of my night

Basically that equates to. Clowney is a gamer. Some guys don't excel on the practice field because they get bored but in the game they dominate. That's Clowney.

Sorry, but that doesn't equate to being a gamer.

What it equates to is a talented athlete that was satisfied being a bit better than most of his compeitition, and didn't do the extra things needed to improve.

JD made some great plays here, and brought the program a lot of publicity. But the question about him will always be how good could he really have been if he'd worked harder?

We've had a lot of guys come in unheralded and greatly improve their stock. Unfortunately, we've also had more than our fair share of highly rated guys over the years who never really did anything great because they were lazy.

I'm hoping he gets to the league and tears it up, but it's equally as possible he gets complacent after getting his big payday and goes down in history as being a big a bust as Tony Mandarich.

I think people are forgetting that there are very few people who worked as hard as Lattimore. That's just rare to find. I equate it to the Alshon situation. He probably didn't work as hard as he could have but he had the most talent of anyone and is doing just fine now in the NFL.

Both kids are cut from the same cloth...quiet, humble guys who just like to play football.

He compares him to Kearse, Carter and Peppers...how does that hurt him? Coach Spurrier would have looked ridiculous if he had of answered the "work ethic" question any other way. He added that they had to tell him to let up in practice because the offense couldn't get anything done or for fear of hurting a starter.

Both kids are cut from the same cloth...quiet, humble guys who just like to play football.

Yep....just good guys. I think USC handled it well with both of them all things considered.
And I don't know if we would have won any more games if either of them had worked as hard as someone like Connor.

The most important thing is that they leave feeling like they can come back and have friends here. Jadeveon likes SOS and that's a plus.

What it equates to is a talented athlete that was satisfied being a bit better than most of his compeitition, and didn't do the extra things needed to improve.

JD made some great plays here, and brought the program a lot of publicity. But the question about him will always be how good could he really have been if he'd worked harder?

We've had a lot of guys come in unheralded and greatly improve their stock. Unfortunately, we've also had more than our fair share of highly rated guys over the years who never really did anything great because they were lazy.

I'm hoping he gets to the league and tears it up, but it's equally as possible he gets complacent after getting his big payday and goes down in history as being a big a bust as Tony Mandarich.

So in your mind if a player does not work out like Melvin Ingram or Swearinger, he is lazy.

He sounded very mature when I talked with him on the phone Saturday night very nice guy. He was in town at longhorns my buddy was chilling with him there I called my buddy cause he told me he was sitting right next to him and he gave the phone to jd and we chatted for a couple of minutes. Highlight of my night

If he had said Clowney was extremely hard working the media would just say it's obvious that isn't true. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Saying someone's work ethic is "ok" is not saying they are lazy.

JD had to know before he even got here that he'd be a top 10 pick based off his speed & size alone at that position. It's not like he wasn't working out, doing drills with his teammates. Maybe he just half assed it a few times. No different than probably half the other guys on the team. We got guys who smoke green in the offseson, slack off, drink, etc. Like many majority of normal college students. Like Spurrier said. Not everyones a Marcus Lattimore, Stephon Gilmore, or Melvin Ingram. You have guys like that on the team who influence the other guys to step up their game. It's just not in Clowney's make up. He's a physical specimen. The fact he had to be removed from practices pretty much told him "Hey your pretty darn good, we gotta take you out just to run our plays"

If he had said Clowney was extremely hard working the media would just say it's obvious that isn't true. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Saying someone's work ethic is "ok" is not saying they are lazy.

The media is so used to coaches lying, they think Spurrier is exaggerating about JD having an acceptable or good work ethic, which is what SOS actually said.

So in your mind if a player does not work out like Melvin Ingram or Swearinger, he is lazy.

Why wouldn't they be?

Some guys are physically gifted, and have enough talent to get by with little or no extra effort. Derek Watson admitted in an interview that he never lifted weights in HS, and simply went through the motions here working out, because he felt like he didn't need to.

JD's one of those rare guys who are off the charts athletically. It's pretty clear he didn't put forth a Lattimore or Swearinger effort working out, and he was still a very good player.

Just think what he could've been with more effort? He clearly didn't look as quick this year, and I'm not overly sure I totally believe that he was asked to take it easy because we couldn't run plays.

What effect did his not putting out the effort have on other players? Quarles admitted he needed to step it up and put out more effort, who else might have slacked a bit because they were too caught up in the JD attention whirlwind?

I loved watching the guy play, he's one of those once in a lifetime talents that you're lucky to get to watch. And he apparently is a very nice young man, my stepdaughter knew him and always commented on how polite and friendly he is. But he even admitted himself if he had it all to do over again, he'd listen more to his coaches and follow their advice.