The Penguins are going to ride or die with Tommy V. If he continues this level of play (i.e., good enough to steal a game any given night), the Penguins will be damn near impossible to beat four times in seven games. Obviously a big 'if'.

DropEmJayBird wrote:Not to pour cold water on anything, but given how quickly this board turns on it's players when things don't go well.. but simply put - the Sens had no offense - none.

I'm not really sure how you seem to think people quickly turn on our players. Most of the board didn't turn on Fleury until a couple weeks ago, when he was in the midst of his fourth consecutive playoff failure.

DropEmJayBird wrote:Not to pour cold water on anything, but given how quickly this board turns on it's players when things don't go well.. but simply put - the Sens had no offense - none.

If we were kids at a birthday party you would be the petulant child in the corner with his arms crossed. Fleury has had every chance in the world to prove himself over the last five years. He hasn't. Get over yourself.

It's Vokoun's job to keep or lose at this point and it's insanity to think about a goalie change right now. I also don't think he's on a really short leash right now. He's doing a Chris Osgood by getting the job done and winning.

You can deal with what to do as far as MAF goes in the off-season. MTL faced this same kind of dilemma with Halak-Price and promptly traded Halak where he battles more injuries than he does pucks. Difference here is that TV isn't going to be a goaltender for the future due to age, no matter if he wins the SC. Doesn't matter at the moment...it's win the SC and worry about ego's and all other kinds of nonsense later.

Prior to Game 2 against the Senators, Shero was asked if it is hard to watch Fleury go through this.

"No," Shero said. "It's bigger than just one player. It's probably easier right now because Tomas has come in and played so well. That buys more time [for Fleury] to get his game in order, which I trust he will do. And that's the big thing we really haven't had in the past when Marc has had to go through some of these things."

Headshot77 wrote:It will be interesting to see Vokoun face a team that is actually capable of creating a serious net-front presence.

It's their 4th line that seems to do the most damage in front of the net. Paille, Thornton, and Campbell is a pretty good 4th line! However, we're one of the few teams out there that can actually counter and match up well with our 4th line, whoever that may be.

I do think that Vokoun will be exposed a bit more against the Bruins, but I still think he can succeed.

Makes me shake me head when I hear people say, "I really hope MAF gets a chance to redeem himself these playoffs!!" Why??? In order for that happen that means either the Pens are getting destroyed by someone or Vokoun has completely gone in the crapper and we are probably gonna lose a series because of the games he's been terrible in. Why would anyone who's a Pens fan want either of those scenarios?? I like MAF too, but no, I do not "hope he gets a chance to redeem himself". I hope he rides the pine while Vokoun takes us to a cup win. He can redeem himself next year.

Headshot77 wrote:It will be interesting to see Vokoun face a team that is actually capable of creating a serious net-front presence.

It's their 4th line that seems to do the most damage in front of the net. Paille, Thornton, and Campbell is a pretty good 4th line! However, we're one of the few teams out there that can actually counter and match up well with our 4th line, whoever that may be.

I do think that Vokoun will be exposed a bit more against the Bruins, but I still think he can succeed.

Well, any goalie would find it difficult to play the Bruins. They're the second best team in the East and have some seriously good offense. I can't expect him to have same stats as he had during past 2 series. I will focus on how he plays and if he's giving the team a chance to win.

Headshot77 wrote:It will be interesting to see Vokoun face a team that is actually capable of creating a serious net-front presence.

It's their 4th line that seems to do the most damage in front of the net. Paille, Thornton, and Campbell is a pretty good 4th line! However, we're one of the few teams out there that can actually counter and match up well with our 4th line, whoever that may be.

I do think that Vokoun will be exposed a bit more against the Bruins, but I still think he can succeed.

Well, any goalie would find it difficult to play the Bruins. They're the second best team in the East and have some seriously good offense. I can't expect him to have same stats as he had during past 2 series. I will focus on how he plays and if he's giving the team a chance to win.

Headshot77 wrote:It will be interesting to see Vokoun face a team that is actually capable of creating a serious net-front presence.

It's their 4th line that seems to do the most damage in front of the net. Paille, Thornton, and Campbell is a pretty good 4th line! However, we're one of the few teams out there that can actually counter and match up well with our 4th line, whoever that may be.

I do think that Vokoun will be exposed a bit more against the Bruins, but I still think he can succeed.

Well, any goalie would find it difficult to play the Bruins. They're the second best team in the East and have some seriously good offense. I can't expect him to have same stats as he had during past 2 series. I will focus on how he plays and if he's giving the team a chance to win.

Headshot77 wrote:It will be interesting to see Vokoun face a team that is actually capable of creating a serious net-front presence.

It's their 4th line that seems to do the most damage in front of the net. Paille, Thornton, and Campbell is a pretty good 4th line! However, we're one of the few teams out there that can actually counter and match up well with our 4th line, whoever that may be.

I do think that Vokoun will be exposed a bit more against the Bruins, but I still think he can succeed.

I didn't watch all of the Bruins/Rangers series, but from what I saw, man their 4th line was eating up the Rags.

I agree, i think Vokoun can still succeed. What a luxury the Pens have, to be able to turn to this backup. Like others, I wonder how a 36 year old goalie can hold up going forward in the playoffs. I guess a lockout shortened season, and not much wear and tear from prior playoffs, will definately help.

Steve wrote:I agree, i think Vokoun can still succeed. What a luxury the Pens have, to be able to turn to this backup. Like others, I wonder how a 36 year old goalie can hold up going forward in the playoffs. I guess a lockout shortened season, and not much wear and tear from prior playoffs, will definately help.

Headshot77 wrote:It will be interesting to see Vokoun face a team that is actually capable of creating a serious net-front presence.

It's their 4th line that seems to do the most damage in front of the net. Paille, Thornton, and Campbell is a pretty good 4th line! However, we're one of the few teams out there that can actually counter and match up well with our 4th line, whoever that may be.

I do think that Vokoun will be exposed a bit more against the Bruins, but I still think he can succeed.

Well, any goalie would find it difficult to play the Bruins. They're the second best team in the East and have some seriously good offense. I can't expect him to have same stats as he had during past 2 series. I will focus on how he plays and if he's giving the team a chance to win.

By seriously good offense, you mean in the bottom half of all the teams in the East in goals for?