I fear America has been fascist for a very long time, we were just better at hiding it behind our patriotism/nationalism and civic religion. You look throughout our history, both recent and past, and we are, in many ways, an extremely oppressive, racist, imperialistic, colonialist, warmongering society. The two original sins of our history, slavery and genocide, continue to haunt us because we have never, collectively, actually dealt with them on honest terms.

Slavery gave way to Jim Crow and segregation, just the folksy Americana version of apartheid, which gave way to the war on drugs and tough on crime agenda, which had the effect of incarcerating millions upon millions of people, disproportionately people of color, as well as the poor, and those with mental illnesses; more people in real terms and per capita than any other nation on earth. We are a carceral police state. Instead of calling it "slavery", we call it "prison labor", and private companies demand that the state locks more people up so that they can make more money off their confinement, even threatening to shut down if the state (MY state, NM) doesn't do its bidding. This is SLAVERY.

It's actually slavery, the thirteenth amendment has that huge loophole you could sail a slave ship through.

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Fascism, oppression, repression, a tendency towards authoritarianism and violence, is baked into our national DNA.

trump just blatantly took the mask off of most of it, most politicians are better at using the slippery language and platitudes that hide what we really are.

Make no mistakes, the problem isn't trump, or the Republican party alone, the problem is the collective US.

c. 5. Detention Facilities. (a) The Secretary shall take all appropriate action and allocate all legally available resources to immediately construct, operate, control, or establish contracts to construct, operate, or control facilities to detain aliens at or near the land border with Mexico.

(b) The Secretary shall take all appropriate action and allocate all legally available resources to immediately assign asylum officers to immigration detention facilities for the purpose of accepting asylum referrals and conducting credible fear determinations pursuant to section 235(b)(1) of the INA (8 U.S.C. 1225(b)(1)) and applicable regulations and reasonable fear determinations pursuant to applicable regulations.

(c) The Attorney General shall take all appropriate action and allocate all legally available resources to immediately assign immigration judges to immigration detention facilities operated or controlled by the Secretary, or operated or controlled pursuant to contract by the Secretary, for the purpose of conducting proceedings authorized under title 8, chapter 12, subchapter II, United States Code.

Sec. 6. Detention for Illegal Entry. The Secretary shall immediately take all appropriate actions to ensure the detention of aliens apprehended for violations of immigration law pending the outcome of their removal proceedings or their removal from the country to the extent permitted by law. The Secretary shall issue new policy guidance to all Department of Homeland Security personnel regarding the appropriate and consistent use of lawful detention authority under the INA, including the termination of the practice commonly known as "catch and release," whereby aliens are routinely released in the United States shortly after their apprehension for violations of immigration law.

Not that we didn't already have all of these, they're just being taken up a gear now.

We can either face the harsh truth about our nation, and seriously reckon with it, or we can continue to live in denial. I know what I'm going to do, do you?

This isn't just about trump, this is about the entirety of our history, recent and not so recent.https://t.co/1SY8NgBGrq

After seeing what's gone on these past couple years, being in the middle of some of those crowds, seeing it all unfold live on the news, arguing with true believers online, shaking friggin Mike Pence's hand... I am not going to pull my punches anymore. I won't try to soften what I know to be happening to make it more palatable for people that choose not to see it, or who do see it, but like that it is that way.

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I'm curious why you think fascism is hiding "behind patriotism/nationalism and civic religion", when these things are the very essence of fascism. Every declared patriot is by definition as fascist. Until Americans work that out it will always walk the path of fascism. How many more foreigners need to die from American invasions to make people realise that?

Because most people, most "patriotic" Americans, don't recognize that that is what forms the beating heart of fascism. It disguises itself as those things, so they don't see it as something that's negative, or actively harmful and oppressive.

We used to jailed employers who hired illegals back in the seventies. Reagan stopped that. Guess what? The meat packing and the construction companies hired such migrants breaking up the unions and depressing wages. Having such cheap and reliable labor was like crack to such businessmen.

This country has been regressing since 2010 foolishly electing republicans into office who have been slashing government in lieu of giving their billionaire donors tax cuts and eroding employees rights.

Did USA occupy half of Europe after WW2 and turned it into one huge prison camp behind the iron curtain? No, USSR did.

Did USA use chemical weapons repeatedly, killed tens of thousands of own citizens, invade 2 neighbors for the sake of territorial expansion, while presidential sons were flogging soccer player for each lost game? No, Saddam's Iraq did.

Does USA executes thousands each year, blocks internet and squashes pretty much every personal and political liberty? No, China does.

Did USA invade Moldova, Georgia and Ukraine, killed many thousands and officially annex one of the occupied territories, while constantly threatening all neighbors with tanks, bombs, genocide, radioactive ash just for the fun of it and calling them "our territory" and "not real countries"? No, Russia did.

Does USA kill thousands every year for their faith or lack thereof? No, the Islamists do.

... I can put here 100 more examples like this ...

On the other hand ...

Who created internet, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Apple, who does a lion's share of the meaningful academic research, hi-tech and software development in the world, who was one of the first modern democracies with people like Franklin, Jefferson, Washington? USA

But who are the fascists? USA.

Does it make any sense to you?

Wake up and look at the world around you. There are the REAL bad guys out there outside USA, EU and Canada. All these absurd conspiracy theories about "guilty west" and "guilty America" are getting ridiculously out of hand and are helping the bad guys a lot.

PS. I am definitely not a Trump fan or anything similar, but a liberal cosmopolitan globalist without rose-tinted glasses (born in USSR).

Are you joking? You're completely unfamiliar with the USA's long history of imperialist aggression, the coups and rigging of elections in other countries, cover and overt meddling, the dozens upon dozens of wars and police actions? The use and spread of torture techniques, rampant targeted assassinations and terror killings? You don't know about the US's long history of "experimenting" with new and exotic toxic weapons, how we're one of the fee countries that still uses cluster bombs that contaminate so many countries that we've bombed with unexploded bomblets to this day? You don't know about all of the radioactive uranium munitions we've blasted over the mid-east? Tell me, what about the genocide and broken treaties of the innumerous native nations, the surviving ones of which we still shortchange, neglecting many to live in third world conditions in this, the supposed richest nation on Earth? For being the land of the free, how come we imprison more people than any other country on Earth, bar none, not even the most tyrannical?

Take your blinders off, and see the USA for the reality of what it is, not the marketing campaigns that it's sold to you.

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