Ok, now I’ll get involved in these comments because I keep seeing the” who are the skins going to use to run the ball”. This shows your ignorance, and you have no idea what is on the skins roster. Ever heard of Roy Helu, or Evan Royster with mixing in Tim Hightower? If not eagle fan, you will.

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How many probowls do all three of these stud backs have combined????

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Silly eagles fan. These are kids who just came out of college, and ran very well last year. We actually use more than one back to operate this offense. It will be interesting for sure this season. Enjoy your mediocre season again with that offensive line coach/defensive coordinator wannabe. At least skins fans are realistic about what type of season we will have with a rookie qb. Eagles fans keep getting fooled by their front office with these pick ups, just to have another disappointing year. Have fun looking up at the Giants, and Cowboys.

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Ahh yes…remind me again how many times in the last decade the Giants and Cowboys have ended the season on top of the Eagles?

You dont say…

]]>By: dlew2191http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/21/texans-players-dont-love-the-demeco-ryans-trade/#comment-1662224
Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:58:23 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=404866#comment-1662224Texans didn’t really play with Ryans or Williams down the stretch anyway, which is when their defense was at its best.

Winston was released, and these two LBs didn’t really play much last season anyway, so the Texans’ D will be fine.

]]>By: shootahcowboyhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/21/texans-players-dont-love-the-demeco-ryans-trade/#comment-1662060
Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:44:23 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=404866#comment-1662060Texans = Marlins – World Championships.
]]>By: mobuccsfanhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/21/texans-players-dont-love-the-demeco-ryans-trade/#comment-1662039
Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:39:20 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=404866#comment-1662039I still think Texans will be fine….they showed a lot of depth on defense last year as it is. I think they need another great receiver to go with AJ, they need db and secondary help/strength and will no doubt find a gem or two for that DL and LB corps in the draft or FA still. And I still think it would be strength vs. strength, two top defenses next year in the Superbowl….Lions vs. Texans!

Okay, that is the Superbowl I want to see, no guarantees, I just think if both teams shore up secondary and lb corps, and protect their QBS and have strong running games, and right now I think they are two teams closest to having those ingredients (as odd as that may sound after so many years of poor management/lesser teams) and are poised to be competitive the next four to six years.

]]>By: mobuccsfanhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/21/texans-players-dont-love-the-demeco-ryans-trade/#comment-1662003
Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:33:33 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=404866#comment-1662003I just wish teams knew he was even on the block…TB could have made that deal easily. Heck I would have even just straight up gave the third round pick for this guy. He would be a great MLB and should do well back in his natural position with the Eagles. Oh well, hopefully Tampa finds the next Derrick Brooks in this draft. I can hope and dream right?
]]>By: darthsainthttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/21/texans-players-dont-love-the-demeco-ryans-trade/#comment-1661995
Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:32:11 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=404866#comment-1661995I learned a LOOOONG time ago, as a fan, you have to trust your front office. Unless of course they have proven time and time again that they are clueless. I don’t think the Texans have done this though. In fact, I think as far as front office moves go, they’ve done better than most.

The free agent signing of Schaub, giving Foster the chance at RB and then getting him at a decent long term contract, good to great draft picks.

With all that said…I have to believe they know something we don’t. Either they have someone else in the wings they feel will be more dynamic. Wade didn’t like how Meco played in the 3-4 perhaps, much like Vilma didn’t transition well with the Jets and got traded to my Saints.

Point is…good teams don’t just give away players. McNair seems as committed to winning as any owner in the NFL. They are making moves for the betterment of their franchise. Us fans just don’t see how the moves make sense with the 20% we know. Texans fans…trust your front office. Even when they make difficult decisions like this.

]]>By: alecitrullo10http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/21/texans-players-dont-love-the-demeco-ryans-trade/#comment-1661985
Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:30:14 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=404866#comment-1661985really dont understand what Houston is doing. They were really on the way up. If Matt Schaub was healthy they had a real legitimate shot at beating the Ravens in the playoffs this past year. Rookie mistakes by a rookie quarterback was the difference in that one. Very disappointed to hear about this trade.
]]>By: rajbaishttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/21/texans-players-dont-love-the-demeco-ryans-trade/#comment-1661943
Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:25:26 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=404866#comment-1661943For the Texans, I feel similarly.

It seems that because of the way things went in 2011 they now have this arrogance where they feel that they can win with anybody!!!

Ok, now I’ll get involved in these comments because I keep seeing the” who are the skins going to use to run the ball”. This shows your ignorance, and you have no idea what is on the skins roster. Ever heard of Roy Helu, or Evan Royster with mixing in Tim Hightower? If not eagle fan, you will.

HAHAHAHAHAHA seriously!
Helu and royster didn’t run for 1,000 yards this year combined. 1st game vs. Philly and our scrub LB’s 42 total yards 2nd game which was the last game of the season against more of our scrubs 130 total rushing yards. yeah were scared of your rushing attack

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Not trying to sound like a broken record, but I have to use the same comments for you as I did for the other disillusion eagles fan:

Silly eagles fan. These are kids who just came out of college, and ran very well last year. We actually use more than one back to operate this offense. It will be interesting for sure this season. Enjoy your mediocre season again with that offensive line coach/defensive coordinator wannabe. At least skins fans are realistic about what type of season we will have with a rookie qb. Eagles fans keep getting fooled by their front office with these pick ups, just to have another disappointing year. Have fun looking up at the Giants, and Cowboys.

Ok, now I’ll get involved in these comments because I keep seeing the” who are the skins going to use to run the ball”. This shows your ignorance, and you have no idea what is on the skins roster. Ever heard of Roy Helu, or Evan Royster with mixing in Tim Hightower? If not eagle fan, you will.

HAHAHAHAHAHA seriously!
Helu and royster didn’t run for 1,000 yards this year combined. 1st game vs. Philly and our scrub LB’s 42 total yards 2nd game which was the last game of the season against more of our scrubs 130 total rushing yards. yeah were scared of your rushing attack

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Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:37:12 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=404866#comment-1661749jenniferxxx says:
Mar 21, 2012 8:22 AM
Trades don’t happen in a vacuum. Usually they end up being pretty much for what the players involved are worth.

30 other teams refused to up the ante on Ryans.

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That assumes that all 30 were interested and able. So while you are correct that trades don’t happen in a vacuum, any team close to the salary cap limit could not have made a deal for Ryans. Any team (e.g. SF, Chicago, and Carolina) that felt it was set for ILB would not make the deal. Throw in that Ryans is a 4-3 MLB, and you only have a couple teams that really could have bid on him if they even had draft picks available for the deal.

Ok, now I’ll get involved in these comments because I keep seeing the” who are the skins going to use to run the ball”. This shows your ignorance, and you have no idea what is on the skins roster. Ever heard of Roy Helu, or Evan Royster with mixing in Tim Hightower? If not eagle fan, you will.

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How many probowls do all three of these stud backs have combined????

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Silly eagles fan. These are kids who just came out of college, and ran very well last year. We actually use more than one back to operate this offense. It will be interesting for sure this season. Enjoy your mediocre season again with that offensive line coach/defensive coordinator wannabe. At least skins fans are realistic about what type of season we will have with a rookie qb. Eagles fans keep getting fooled by their front office with these pick ups, just to have another disappointing year. Have fun looking up at the Giants, and Cowboys.

]]>By: Philadelphiahttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/21/texans-players-dont-love-the-demeco-ryans-trade/#comment-1661723
Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:29:07 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=404866#comment-1661723If I was a Texans player, or fan, I’d be pissed too!!!
]]>By: jrod691http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/21/texans-players-dont-love-the-demeco-ryans-trade/#comment-1661719
Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:27:30 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=404866#comment-1661719Once again I can’t believe you don’t include what the actual trade was in this article. When you do it again I guess I won’t be surprised.
]]>By: thebricamhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/21/texans-players-dont-love-the-demeco-ryans-trade/#comment-1661687
Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:10:07 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=404866#comment-1661687I don’t buy the talk that the texans will be a worse defense next season. Mario played all of 5 games and Memo was half the man he was 2 seasons ago before his injury. and they still had a great D. all the other pieces are still in place to remain atop the afc south
]]>By: jackshinehttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/21/texans-players-dont-love-the-demeco-ryans-trade/#comment-1661670
Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:57:57 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=404866#comment-1661670When teams switch from a 4-3 to a 3-4 they can often dump their best defenders for much less than theyre worth.

Instead of tagging Mario and getting a 1 in return he walks and theyll settle for a compensatory pick. (Some say thats a dick move, this is a business. Players couldve fought Franchise tag in new CBA. BB tagged and traded Cassel for an early No. 2)

Demeco gets sent out basically for cap room.

Wade Phillips was a bad move. They had a great core group for a dominant 4-3 defense. The idea hes gonna get “his guys” and be just as good is false, the oppurtunity cost of having to go after a whole new group of defenders stalls them from finding needs elsewhere, a la true no. 2 wr to help Andre and upgrading the o line.

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Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:52:35 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=404866#comment-1661662Ok, now I’ll get involved in these comments because I keep seeing the” who are the skins going to use to run the ball”. This shows your ignorance, and you have no idea what is on the skins roster. Ever heard of Roy Helu, or Evan Royster with mixing in Tim Hightower? If not eagle fan, you will.

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How many probowls do all three of these stud backs have combined????

]]>By: Andre's Johnsonhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/21/texans-players-dont-love-the-demeco-ryans-trade/#comment-1661657
Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:51:10 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=404866#comment-1661657Knowledgeable Houston fans know this is a win-win trade. The Eagles get a solid 4-3 MLB, and the Texans get upgraded draft positions. You can’t pay a 2-down ILB six million dollars. He wasn’t a good fit in Wade Phillips’ system. He’s slower and more tentative than he used to be. I think Eagles fans are a little too giddy. Ryans has had two major injuries in recent years…he’s not the same guy. He’ll be above-average in a 4-3, but he’s not great anymore.
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Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:48:55 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=404866#comment-1661654Great trade for the eagles. As a skins fan i hate it tho.Haha. Seriously tho they just robbed the Texans
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Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:34:05 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=404866#comment-1661625gregeer says: Mar 21, 2012 8:20 AM

Just when the Texans look like they could be the AFC favorite they do this. Mario, Ryans, Winston and Brisiel will be big losses.
evilboy128 says: Mar 21, 2012 8:20 AM

combined with the offensive lines issues and losses in free agency, I wouldn’t pencil the Texans in as the AFC South favorites just yet.
cardmagnet says: Mar 21, 2012 8:25 AM

Why would they? The Texans just went from one of the best defenses in the league in 2011 to mediocre with the loss of Williams and Ryans.
truthhurtstoo says: Mar 21, 2012 8:26 AM

FAIL- looks like it’s back to the drawing board for the Texans
mexneck says: Mar 21, 2012 8:28 AM

I would go ahead and set there defense back a couple of years after these bonehead moves
pencilmonkeymagic says: Mar 21, 2012 8:34 AM

That division is going to be wide open.

You’re all obviously huge football nerds. Go chat on ESPN or something with the rest of society.

]]>By: flybirdsflyhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/21/texans-players-dont-love-the-demeco-ryans-trade/#comment-1661615
Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:30:02 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=404866#comment-1661615I would love if we would have gotten Wibley and DeMeco. I’ll take one above average LB. I really like Chaney on the weak side now we just need a strong side LB. London Fletcher and Curtis Lofton are still out there.

Fly Eagles Fly!

]]>By: mhalt99http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/21/texans-players-dont-love-the-demeco-ryans-trade/#comment-1661602
Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:25:18 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=404866#comment-1661602The Texans were one of the best defenses without Mario last year. Of course they would have been better this year and last with one of, if not the best d-end in the game the money saved on losing Mario and Ryans will be put to good use shoring up other areas of the team.

Additionally, both Mario and Ryans are built for the 4-3, not the 3-4. While both players will excel in either scheme, it is the 4-3 where they both shine the brightest and are thus worth the most to the teams running those defenses.

The Texans seem to have put Ryans in position to succeed on another team that has the pieces to be a contender, in effect they did “not do him wrong” and actually showed some loyalty by “setting him free”

The Texans need respect for seeing past the hype and drafting Mario in the first place over Bush.

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Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:25:05 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=404866#comment-1661601Thanks for Demeco. Hes a monster healthy. Finally a LB who can tackle a floating plastic bag. Unlike Casey Mathews, Chris Gogong, Ernie Sims, Omar Gaither, Moise Fokou, Akeem Jordan, old Will Witherspoon and an old Trotter from 09. Jamar Chaney on the outside and another outside backer, holy snikeys the Eagles might actually have a solid LBs core. Not to mention need a LBs core to run the wide 9, Especially a tackling MLB.
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Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:21:21 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=404866#comment-1661593As an Eagles fan, I absolutely LOVE this trade. Only giving up a 4th round pick and a swap of 3rd rd picks is a steal for us. Now we finally have a proven LB who is also a leader. Love it.

E A G L E S EAGLES!

]]>By: texans3fourhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/21/texans-players-dont-love-the-demeco-ryans-trade/#comment-1661588
Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:20:17 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=404866#comment-1661588Great player and a true leader – a ‘vocal’ leader on a team with mostly ‘quiet’ leadership (Shaub and Dre for example). But recovering from that Achilles’ injury in 2010, PLUS a pre-season elbow injury that had him wearing protective gear on that arm all year may have factored into his low numbers in 2011. Going to miss him and wish him the best in Philly.
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Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:19:11 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=404866#comment-1661584thekingdave says:
Mar 21, 2012 8:54 AM
It’s sad how stupid some of you are who claim to watch football. THE DEFENSE WAS #2 IN THE NFL WITH MARIO MISSING 5 GAMES AND DEMECO BEING A COMPLETE NON FACTOR. Teams just don’t dump solid players for zero reason coming off promising seasons. Also, lol @ the moron who said Briesel was a big loss.

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Couldn’t have said it better! the 3-4 allows mediocre outside linebackers to thrive as long as they play their assignments and Brooks Reed did a fine job of that replacing Mario Williams…DeMeco wasn’t a hard loss, we got CUSH in there to fill up the gaps and I am sure sharpton will be back to help cush out but other then that, You people are stupid to say losing DeMeco and MArio will kill us because our defense thrived last year after Mario got hurt and DeMeco was beginning to be a non-factor.

]]>By: cowboyhaterhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/21/texans-players-dont-love-the-demeco-ryans-trade/#comment-1661578
Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:17:21 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=404866#comment-1661578Ok, now I’ll get involved in these comments because I keep seeing the” who are the skins going to use to run the ball”. This shows your ignorance, and you have no idea what is on the skins roster. Ever heard of Roy Helu, or Evan Royster with mixing in Tim Hightower? If not eagle fan, you will.
]]>By: santoloniushttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/21/texans-players-dont-love-the-demeco-ryans-trade/#comment-1661577
Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:16:45 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=404866#comment-1661577did the texans have a meeting after the season and say: “we were pretty good last year. what can we do to return to being average?”
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