All Discussions Tagged 'christmas' - Think Atheist2015-08-02T20:37:50Zhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/forum/topic/listForTag?tag=christmas&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHow many babies in the US are the result of virgin birth?tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-12-23:1982180:Topic:14187412013-12-23T20:18:33.998ZGallup's Mirrorhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/GallupsMirror
<p>A lot, it seems. According to a survey recently <a href="http://www.bmj.com/content/347/bmj.f7102" target="_blank">published in the BMJ</a>, women in the United States claim that 0.8% of pregnancies and 0.5% of births occurred without sexual intercourse, excluding in vitro fertilization and other assisted reproductive technology.</p>
<p>Better make sure you've got the right virgin mother and child. With so many around, there's bound to be some confusion.…</p>
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<p>A lot, it seems. According to a survey recently <a href="http://www.bmj.com/content/347/bmj.f7102" target="_blank">published in the BMJ</a>, women in the United States claim that 0.8% of pregnancies and 0.5% of births occurred without sexual intercourse, excluding in vitro fertilization and other assisted reproductive technology.</p>
<p>Better make sure you've got the right virgin mother and child. With so many around, there's bound to be some confusion.</p>
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</p> A christian asked me why I celebrate christmas....tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2012-12-25:1982180:Topic:12385242012-12-25T08:49:25.768ZCodie L Millerhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/CodieLMiller
<p>I got an email on facebook recently from some christian who asked the question</p>
<p>"If you're such an atheist, how come you celebrate christmas? It's a christian holiday, so you shouldn't celebrate it."</p>
<p>Well for one, I am pretty sure that the origin of christmas is NOT christian. Pretty pagan actually. It's awful christians actually believe the entire holiday of christmas is purely christian. The christians may have popularized the holiday...but it is DEFINITELY NOT a christian…</p>
<p>I got an email on facebook recently from some christian who asked the question</p>
<p>"If you're such an atheist, how come you celebrate christmas? It's a christian holiday, so you shouldn't celebrate it."</p>
<p>Well for one, I am pretty sure that the origin of christmas is NOT christian. Pretty pagan actually. It's awful christians actually believe the entire holiday of christmas is purely christian. The christians may have popularized the holiday...but it is DEFINITELY NOT a christian concept..</p>
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<p>All that being said...Do you celebrate christmas? Do you call it christmas or holidays or xmas, etc?</p>
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<p>I celebrate this holiday because I love the atmosphere of it all. The lights, the giving, the fun. It's a great time to get together, not necessarily worshiping an unlikely existent christian creator.</p>
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<p>Again..All of my rants are mostly on christians because I do live in the USA after all...</p> "Bless you" and Christmastag:www.thinkatheist.com,2011-12-16:1982180:Topic:10022912011-12-16T20:34:26.889ZMichael Murphyhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/MichaelMurphy
<p>Hi guys,</p>
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<p>I lurk here a lot and love to read your discussions. I have some need for advice, and while I understand that going to an atheist community for atheist advice is a very biased choice, it seems the most fitting.</p>
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<p>So my first issue is with "bless you." I'm in a discussion on the ffxiah.com forums (Final Fantasy XI, a MMORPG, forum but they welcome all sorts of topics) about this and people think I'm crazy.</p>
<p>I understand that saying something when…</p>
<p>Hi guys,</p>
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<p>I lurk here a lot and love to read your discussions. I have some need for advice, and while I understand that going to an atheist community for atheist advice is a very biased choice, it seems the most fitting.</p>
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<p>So my first issue is with "bless you." I'm in a discussion on the ffxiah.com forums (Final Fantasy XI, a MMORPG, forum but they welcome all sorts of topics) about this and people think I'm crazy.</p>
<p>I understand that saying something when someone sneezes is considered polite. While I think it's a silly custom I've accepted it for this discussion. My problem with it is that, of course, you're asking God to bless someone. A majority of the time the person does not mean "oh God please bless this person", which really urks me. Religious customs and practices have been engrained into nearly everything that we do, and with my atheist state of mind I find it repulsive. Those that say "bless you" and say it only as a courtesy are just repeating what they've known and heard all of their life. In my opinion it just feeds the religious fire that surrounds our society. Phrases such as, "oh my god," "god damn it," "holy crap!" "oh lord," etc..., are repeated day in and day out all across the country. When you repeat something over and over again it eventually becomes real. Now I'm not saying that by eliminating "bless you" will get rid of religion but it might, over time, slightly weakened the influence of religion that is engrained into our culture. I feel that by "taking a stand against it," or just voicing my opinion about it, that maybe others might agree and think critically for once.</p>
<p>So I expressed my opinion on this and of course I'm labelled as a "crazy atheist." I'm sure that my weak debating skills might have an influence on their opinion but that is besides the point. I mentioned to them that if someone says "bless you" to me that I do not respond with a "thank you" because I am not thankful for the comment. Does this make me an asshole or do others share the same train of thought? I also bring up the fact that if you wish to be polite when someone sneezes, why not say something else? Of course nothing really fits that situation besides, perhaps, gazuntite, which is another reason I have for not agreeing with saying something after a sneeze but I digress...</p>
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<p>My second issue is Christmas. I am 27, my wife is 23, and my two children are 1.5 and 5. I am of course raising them to think critically although it's not that extreme considering their age. I have told my oldest that Santa is not real and that it is ok to pretend that he comes on xmas. Many people in my family find this to be horrific but generally seem to keep their mouths shut about it. My wife still wants us to put up a tree and decorate it, which we did, and there are Santa decorations all around the house. We still give gifts to our children and to other family. We still gather for a Christmas dinner and such.</p>
<p>My thoughts on Santa Claus and children is that by following the tradition you are making them believe that something is real when it obviously isn't. While one might shrug it off as "the magic of xmas" I believe it weakens a childs mind to the influence of religion. Religion is the belief that some God exists when obviously this isn't true. It's almost identical. If you want to be extremely conspiracy theorist, you could say that some people believe in God just so they can have that childhood belief of a Santa back. While I'm mostly joking, I'm sure someone could probably make that a legitimate arguement...</p>
<p>Anyways, am I wrong with my thoughts on Santa and telling my children that he does not exist? I do enjoy the xmas season because I get to see family and what not but I think that could be accomplished without a Christian/Pagan/whatever holiday. I just don't like the thought of lying to my children about something so similar to a religious belief.</p>
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<p>Thanks for reading and I welcome any advice, both good or bad.</p> Why do people we all know and work with, just "assume" that we believe what they believe? This usually becomes self evident around christmas, when everyone just assumes you are a believer in christ?tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2011-10-09:1982180:Topic:8904772011-10-09T23:06:11.351ZStevehttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/SteveLustinia
<p>Happens every year around this time. People automatically assume, you believe as they do.</p>
<p>They hand you a religious card with some religious crap in it, and a quote from the greatest lie ever told.</p>
<p>I don't understand why anyone would just assume that I believe what they believe.</p>
<p>There is a double standard here. It is acceptable to talk about god as long as it's their god.</p>
<p>If you do not believe as they do, it is always an uncomfortable…</p>
<p>Happens every year around this time. People automatically assume, you believe as they do.</p>
<p>They hand you a religious card with some religious crap in it, and a quote from the greatest lie ever told.</p>
<p>I don't understand why anyone would just assume that I believe what they believe.</p>
<p>There is a double standard here. It is acceptable to talk about god as long as it's their god.</p>
<p>If you do not believe as they do, it is always an uncomfortable situation.</p>
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<p> </p> Secular ways of Celebrating Religious Holidays - Share Ideas - New Titles for the Holidaystag:www.thinkatheist.com,2011-04-24:1982180:Topic:6310512011-04-24T09:20:54.478ZChris Lamberthttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/ChrisLambert
<p><a href="http://a3.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/21/598b611ead97ccb926a7531a3362e930/m.gif" target="_blank"><img class="align-full" src="http://a3.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/21/598b611ead97ccb926a7531a3362e930/m.gif"></img></a> There has been a lot of great advice given regarding what to do on Easter Day when spending it with Christians (thanks for that). This is a holiday (which is great) which in Christian terms is irrelevant to us.</p>
<p>So what do we do?</p>
<p>Do we do anything?</p>
<p>I notice that Google got into trouble for celebrating Earth Day and not Good Friday.</p>
<p>How do…</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://a3.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/21/598b611ead97ccb926a7531a3362e930/m.gif"><img class="align-full" src="http://a3.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/21/598b611ead97ccb926a7531a3362e930/m.gif"/></a>There has been a lot of great advice given regarding what to do on Easter Day when spending it with Christians (thanks for that). This is a holiday (which is great) which in Christian terms is irrelevant to us.</p>
<p>So what do we do?</p>
<p>Do we do anything?</p>
<p>I notice that Google got into trouble for celebrating Earth Day and not Good Friday.</p>
<p>How do you celebrate Earth Day?Is this to do with spring and bunnies and stuff?</p>
<p>Did any of you?</p>
<p>Do you celebrate Good Friday? How? By being irreverent? By watching "Passion of the Christ" and double billing it with something similar like "Hostel"?</p>
<p>Do you watch "The Last Temptation of Christ", "Life of Brian" or the equally excellent "Jesus of Montreal"?</p>
<p>What about Easter? A wag has suggested that it should be "International Day of The Zombie" or "<a href="http://http://www.zombiejesusday.org/About.aspx" target="_blank">Zombie Jesus Day</a>" (see link) - for is it not the day that Christ returned from the grave to chow down on our brains?</p>
<p>Being an avid horror fan this ticks my boxes, I'd happily watch Night of the Living Dead in praise of the great Romero.</p>
<p>What do you think? What would you do? What would Zombie Jesus do?</p>
<p>What about Christmas?</p>
<p>Ash Wednesday?</p>
<p>Lent?</p>
<p>Shrove Tuesday?</p>
<p>Maundy Thursday?</p>
<p>Advent?</p>
<p>Mothering Sunday?</p>
<p>All Saints Day?</p>
<p>All Hallows Eve?</p>
<p>Epiphany? (celebrating your epiphany?)</p>
<p>Palm Sunday? (onanism? a day of self abuse? Check out "Jellyfish - Spilt Milk" and their song "<a href="http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmlubhrI7Dc" target="_blank">He's my best friend</a>" for a saucy Palm Sunday reference)</p>
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<p>What do you think, this should run and run...</p> Pressured to Praytag:www.thinkatheist.com,2011-01-09:1982180:Topic:4919832011-01-09T06:49:20.928ZBronsonhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/Bronson
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<p>Edit:Problem is solved, but feel free to reply with any opinions.***</p>
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<p>On christmas I told my mom that I wasn't going to pray when it was time for dinner. She respectfully said "That's fine", and went on with her day. When it was time to eat she made everyone hold hands, I said "I'm not praying" she said "You don't have to, but hold hands". I refused and everyone at the table started to glare at me, then start yelling at me till I caved…</p>
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<p>Edit:Problem is solved, but feel free to reply with any opinions.***</p>
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<p>On christmas I told my mom that I wasn't going to pray when it was time for dinner. She respectfully said "That's fine", and went on with her day. When it was time to eat she made everyone hold hands, I said "I'm not praying" she said "You don't have to, but hold hands". I refused and everyone at the table started to glare at me, then start yelling at me till I caved in. </p>
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<p>I know it's not technically praying if I hold hands, but it still feels like I'm partaking in an activity that I don't want to be apart of. I don't have a problem with them praying, let them do what they want, but don't make me do join you. And I know this is going to sound completely trivial to a lot of people, but it's still the fucking concept. I mean christians wouldn't hold hands with Muslims to pray, so why should they expect me to do the same? I know my sister just goes along with it (She's an atheist as well), and some of you might. But for what reasons should I HAVE to?</p>
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<p>When I approached my mother afterwards I merely said "Why did you make me do that, why did you make me pray?". She got hostile towards me, even though my tone was normal. She responded with "You weren't praying, and if you don't want to take part in this family then you can go sit in the corner". I just stopped talking about it after that, I feel like I've just been pressured into something that makes me feel uncomfortable (even if it is a very small issue). </p>
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<p>So should I show resistance and go sit in a corner next time this happens, or should I follow the way of the sheep? </p>
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<p> </p> Atheist Caroling #1 - Inject Comic relief into the Christmas Wars! ^_^tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2010-11-21:1982180:Topic:4293572010-11-21T22:19:59.710ZSkycomet the Fallen Angelhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/Skycomet
<p>Okay... who else is irritated by Christmas yet? I certainly am! I don't loathe christmas... just the overblown crap...</p>
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<p>So... I will post several.. ahem! "Perfected" Christmas Carols... for you to enjoy, and laugh your head of... and hopefully use as drinking songs when you invite a bunch of heathens over for christmas drunkenness! Hee! Hee! ^_^</p>
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<p>Here's the First two:</p>
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<p>First..</p>
<p><strong>Deck The Halls</strong></p>
Deck the Halls with Pagan…
<p>Okay... who else is irritated by Christmas yet? I certainly am! I don't loathe christmas... just the overblown crap...</p>
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<p>So... I will post several.. ahem! "Perfected" Christmas Carols... for you to enjoy, and laugh your head of... and hopefully use as drinking songs when you invite a bunch of heathens over for christmas drunkenness! Hee! Hee! ^_^</p>
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<p>Here's the First two:</p>
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<p>First..</p>
<p><strong>Deck The Halls</strong></p>
Deck the Halls with Pagan Trinkets!<br />
Fa La La La La La La La La!<br />
Pretend that these belong to Jesus!<br />
Fa La La La La La La La La!<br />
Start the season in October!<br />
Fa La La La La La La La La!<br />
Wake me up this is over.<br />
Fa La La La La La La La La!<br />
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O Holy Night!<br/>The House is now Empty!<br/>All the Christians went to Church!<br/>Long waited I…<br/>In sin and happy for it.<br/>‘Till they left<br/>And I could get drunk on the eggnog!<br/>A thrill of booze!<br/>And free of stupid carols!<br/>And a happy drunk,<br/>I forgot this holiday!<br/>Fall on the couch!<br/>And watch reruns of Star Trek!<br/>Oh Night! Divine!<br/>Oh Night! When myth was born!<br/>Oh Night! Oh Holy Crap!!<br/>I spilled my booze! Garrison Keillor: Don't Mess with Christmastag:www.thinkatheist.com,2009-12-25:1982180:Topic:1892702009-12-25T22:38:32.466ZJoshua McGeehttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/JoshuaMcGee
Garrison Keillor, of Public Radio fame, offered the <a href="http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/garrison_keillor/2009/12/15/cambridge/index.html">following rant on Slate.com</a>:<br />
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<blockquote>I've just come from Cambridge, that beehive of brilliance, where nerds don't feel self-conscious: There's always someone nerdier nearby. If you are the World's Leading Authority on the mating habits of the jabberwock beetle of the Lesser Jujube Archipelago, you can take comfort in knowing that the…</blockquote>
Garrison Keillor, of Public Radio fame, offered the <a href="http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/garrison_keillor/2009/12/15/cambridge/index.html">following rant on Slate.com</a>:<br />
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<blockquote>I've just come from Cambridge, that beehive of brilliance, where nerds don't feel self-conscious: There's always someone nerdier nearby. If you are the World's Leading Authority on the mating habits of the jabberwock beetle of the Lesser Jujube Archipelago, you can take comfort in knowing that the pinch-faced drone next to you at Starbucks may be the W.L.A. on 17th-century Huguenot hymnody or a niche of quantum physics that is understood by nobody but himself. People in Cambridge learn to be wary of brilliance, having seen geniuses in the throes of deep thought step into potholes and disappear. Such as the brilliant economist Lawrence Summers, whose presidency brought Harvard to the verge of disaster. He was the man who, against the advice of his lessers, invested Harvard's operating funds in the stock market and lost the bet. In the cold light of day, this was dumber than dirt, like putting the kids' lunch money on Valiant's Fancy to win in the fifth. And now the genius is in the White House, two short flights of stairs above the Oval Office. This does not make Cambridgeans feel better about our nation's economic future. You can blame Ralph Waldo Emerson for the brazen foolishness of the elite. He preached here at the First Church of Cambridge, a Unitarian outfit (where I discovered that "Silent Night" has been cleverly rewritten to make it more about silence and night and not so much about God), and Emerson tossed off little bons mots that have been leading people astray ever since. "To be great is to be misunderstood," for example. This tiny gem of self-pity has given license to a million arrogant and unlovable people to imagine that their unpopularity somehow was proof of their greatness.
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And all his hoo-ha about listening to the voice within and don't follow the path, make your own path and leave a trail and so forth, encouraged people who might've been excellent janitors to become bold and innovative economists who run a wealthy university into the ditch.<br />
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Unitarians listen to the Inner Voice and so they have no creed that they all stand up and recite in unison, and that's their perfect right, but it is wrong, wrong, wrong to rewrite "Silent Night." If you don't believe Jesus was God, OK, go write your own damn "Silent Night" and leave ours alone. This is spiritual piracy and cultural elitism and we Christians have stood for it long enough. And all those lousy holiday songs by Jewish guys that trash up the malls every year, Rudolph and the chestnuts and the rest of that dreck. Did one of our guys write "Grab your loafers, come along if you wanna, and we'll blow that shofar for Rosh Hashanah"? No, we didn't.<br />
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Christmas is a Christian holiday -- if you're not in the club, then buzz off. Celebrate Yule instead or dance around in druid robes for the solstice. Go light a big log, go wassailing and falalaing until you fall down, eat figgy pudding until you puke, but don't mess with the Messiah.<br />
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Christmas does not need any improvements. It is a common ordinary experience that resists brilliant innovation. Just make some gingerbread persons and light three candles and sing softly in dim light about the poor man gathering winter fu-u-el and the radiant beams and the holly and the ivy, and you've got it. Too many people work too hard to make Christmas perfect, find the perfect gifts, get a turkey that reaches 100 percent of potential. Perfection is a goal of brilliant people and it is unnecessary where Christmas is concerned.<br />
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The most wonderful Christmas of my life was 1997, a quiet day with no gifts and no tree, waiting in a New York apartment for my daughter to be born. And the second most wonderful was one in the Norwegian Arctic, where it rained every day and the sun came up around 11 and set around 1, not that you ever actually saw the sun, and the food was abominable, boiled cod and watery potatoes, and the people were cold and resentful, and there was no brilliance whatsoever. And I had the flu. Why was I there? Good question. But every year it gladdens my heart to know that I will not be going to Norway for Christmas. A terrific investment. Mr. Summers should be so smart. For one week of misery, I get an annual joyfulness dividend of at least 25 percent. Merry Christmas, my dears.</blockquote>
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I talked about this <a href="http://www.mcgees.org/2009/12/25/garrison-keillor-dont-mess-with-christmas/">on my site</a>, but I'm crossposting it here for discussion:<br />
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<blockquote>"Christmas is a Christian holiday -- if you're not in the club, then buzz off," he writes. Wow. OK. "Club".
But I'm <i>totally</i> with you, dude. I feel the same skin-crawl when Christian radio in America (for real, they do this) excise the "... and no religion too" line from John Lennon's <i>Imagine</i>. (According to Dawkins, sometimes the substitution is made, when others sing it, "... and <i>one</i> religion, too," but this is so horrifically repulsive that I'm going to have to hear it myself before reporting it as fact.)<br />
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Bug Garrison: cool. Christian holiday. <b>That's what I've been saying all along.</b> Now what <i>you've</i> got to understand is, <b>this is a secular nation</b>. Even <a href="http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_and_how_did_Christmas_become_an_official_government_holiday">when Christmas became a national holiday in 1870</a>, the wording, approved by both houses of congress, didn't say something like "on the day Our Dear Lord was Born in Bethlehem," it said "the twenty-fifth day of December, commonly called Christmas Day." And it took <i>100 years for this to happen.</i><br />
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So, Garrison, if you're going to claim Christmas only for "the club", then <b>do the thing privately</b>. Right? I'm not talking about malls, owned by people. I'm talking about libraries, courthouses, schools ... everywhere my taxpayer dollars go. <i>Please. Keep. Christmas.</i> But: Please. Keep. Christmas. <i>To yourselves.</i> Commit to this, I'm with you. Don't commit, then "buzz off". It may be your religion more than it is mine, but it's as much <i>my</i> country as <i>yours</i>, and I won't tolerate hypocrisy, especially when you write stuff like "And all those lousy holiday songs by Jewish guys that trash up the malls every year, Rudolph and the chestnuts and the rest of that dreck. Did one of our guys write 'Grab your loafers, come along if you wanna, and we'll blow that shofar for Rosh Hashanah'? No, we didn't."<br />
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If you're not committing to this, and just want to lob this stuff from offstage, then as far as I'm concerned, you can go directly to hell without passing "Go ye forth."<br />
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(There's no 'preview', so I'm hoping the blockquotes work.) Christmastag:www.thinkatheist.com,2009-07-19:1982180:Topic:1253002009-07-19T18:34:01.898ZJuliehttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/lepouse
I'm curious to hear how everyone here gets through the holiday season each year.<br />
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For me, Christmas is the only religious holiday I really take part in; Easter always seemed a waste of time to me. But because of a happy childhood, Christmas was always dear to me. Not because of Jesus; even though I was raised Catholic I can count the times we attended Christmas mass. The most religious thing my mother would do was display her nativity scene (which she was more proud of the antiquity of it than…
I'm curious to hear how everyone here gets through the holiday season each year.<br />
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For me, Christmas is the only religious holiday I really take part in; Easter always seemed a waste of time to me. But because of a happy childhood, Christmas was always dear to me. Not because of Jesus; even though I was raised Catholic I can count the times we attended Christmas mass. The most religious thing my mother would do was display her nativity scene (which she was more proud of the antiquity of it than it's meaning).<br />
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As an adult I follow most of the traditions because they meant so much to me as a child. I love the fun of Santa Claus and aside from the religious aspects of "It's a Wonderful Life", it's one of my favorite movies for its message (lol, and socialist spirit!). We put up a tree (a fake one...can't see cutting down trees for a two week long decoration) and decorated it with funny ornaments and top it with a Santa hat instead of an angel or a star. My "nativity scene" is the full display of Rudolf the Red Nosed Reindeer characters, including the abominable snowman.<br />
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I send Christmas cards to friends and family; always something with a social message (usually from an environmental group, or last year I did Amnesty International), and I make sure the message inside says either Season's Greetings or Happy Holidays. I exchange gifts with my family, and we go to my parents' home for dinner.<br />
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I know that I'm still technically celebrating the birth of Jesus, but in my heart and my mind I'm not. I'm excited about exchanging gifts with our families, I love the turkey dinner and the days off work. I love that once a year my family can sit down at the same table and put our petty differences aside (and there are lots of those!).<br />
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How does everyone else feel about it? Got this letter from my Grandmothertag:www.thinkatheist.com,2009-03-25:1982180:Topic:611242009-03-25T02:51:12.721ZJessica Reneehttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/Renee
This is an email i just received from my grandmother. she has always been sweet to me, but since i have admitted to myself that i don't believe in god she has been posting comments about it on my face book and now she has sent me this email...<br />
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its just a bit of a slap in the face. That she has done this....<br />
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FLORIDA COURT SETS ATHEIST HOLY DAY<br />
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In Florida, an atheist created a case against the upcoming Easter and<br />
Passover holy days. He hired an attorney to bring a…
This is an email i just received from my grandmother. she has always been sweet to me, but since i have admitted to myself that i don't believe in god she has been posting comments about it on my face book and now she has sent me this email...<br />
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its just a bit of a slap in the face. That she has done this....<br />
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FLORIDA COURT SETS ATHEIST HOLY DAY<br />
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In Florida, an atheist created a case against the upcoming Easter and<br />
Passover holy days. He hired an attorney to bring a discrimination case against<br />
Christians, Jews and observances of their holy days.<br />
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The argument was that it was unfair that atheists had no such recognized<br />
days.<br />
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The case was brought before a judge. After listening to the passionate<br />
presentation by the lawyer, the judge banged his gavel declaring,"Case<br />
dismissed!"<br />
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The lawyer immediately stood objecting to the ruling saying, "Your honor,<br />
how can you possibly dismiss this case? The Christians have Christmas,<br />
Easter and others. The Jews have Passover, Yom Kippur and Hanukkah, yet my<br />
client and all other atheists have no such holidays."<br />
<br />
The judge leaned forward in his chair saying, "But you do. Your client,<br />
counsel, is woefully ignorant."<br />
<br />
The lawyer said, "Your Honor, we are unaware of any special observance<br />
or holiday for atheists."<br />
<br />
The judge said, "The calendar says April 1st is April Fools Day.<br />
Psalm 14:1 states, 'The fool says in his heart, there is no God.'<br />
Thus, it is the opinion of this court, that if your client says there is no<br />
God, then he is a fool. Therefore, April 1st is his day. Court is<br />
adjourned.<br />
<br />
You gotta love a Judge that knows his scripture!<br />
<br />
This is too good not to forward.