The exchange begins respectfully between the two and it only really breaks down when they begin discussing what each describes as the #1 issue facing America and the Libertarian Party.

Sarwark believes this to be "Racism" while Dave Smith believes it's "Foreign Policy / The War State".

This is when things get heated.

Sarwark argues that President Trump's Wall on the southern border is racist because it disproportionately affects Mexicans, who have brown skin, and not Canadians who are white. For simplicity, we'll ignore the other implications of the southern wall for now (ie., open borders, the movement of drugs that exist in the south which isn't a problem on the northern border).

He also notes that President Trumps “Muslim Ban“ was racist because the people in those countries are brown skinned, even if, admittedly, not all countries on the list were Muslim, nor were all Muslim countries added.

He even claims that the death of Heather Heyer in Charlottesville during the "Unite the Right" protest is proof that racism exists and that it is more important than the death of thousands overseas.

Dave Smith pushes back against this well moral inequivalence, but my focus is on something different.

At this point, Nick Sarwark doesn’t understand his own contradiction. Who are we at war with? The bombs that we drop, who dies when they explode?

If, very overwhelmingly, we are only killing brown people isn’t our foreign policy just as racist as the Wall? Isn't it just as racist as the Muslim ban? Is our foreign policy only killing Norwegians? Or is it killing brown people in the Middle East?

Nick, if you want to stay consistent please keep beating the drum against these policies that overwhelmingly affect minorities. Your conversation regarding our failed justice system because it inordinately affects minorities is ON POINT.

Take that point to its logical conclusion though. Our foreign policy also disproportionately affects minorities. And by “affect“ I mean it kills them, ruins families, eliminates entire family trees, destroys cities, introduces famine, and also just happens to executed with OUR tax money.