Re: Can you live without Google

CeciliaCrimsondragonFett wrote:

I boycott Google and if you like YouTube, so should you. Ever since Google bought YouTube it's gone down the drain. =/ I can, and do, live without Google.

? I am confused by exactly what you are implying here. What has gone wrong since Google bought YouTube? I'm gonna guess you're talking about copyright infringements? Those are easy to bypass, just credit the owner.

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I credit the owner of every video I make and yet I keep getting videos removed for copyright reasons. I didn't know google had bought them. But I also don't care enough, google's too useful to care that much. I'll just host my own videos, it's easy.

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If youtube removes them using a program then why is it the song I used has 3 pages of search results when I use their search to find other videos with the exact same song? It's just something I've wondered. Why was my video in specific taken down when there's still a hundred more that are still up? Either the program is very inefficient or they just occasionally take a video down to make it look like they're doing something.

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Miba -- according to http://www.youtube.com/t/fact_sheet -- every minute there are 20 videos uploaded to YouTube. That's 28,800 per day. The latency for stripping copyrighted audio is, I think, a combination of aural-recognition processing time, flagging, and the aggressiveness of the music label.

Re: Can you live without Google

CeciliaCrimsondragonFett wrote:

I boycott Google and if you like YouTube, so should you. Ever since Google bought YouTube it's gone down the drain. =/ I can, and do, live without Google.

I have only used it once or twice in my life. I think the search returns it gives are a lot of fluff. I mean cross-reference "hamster" a million ways and you are still going to get a bunch of crap about fuzzy critters that may, or may not be what you are looking for...just because the cross-referencing is so extensive does not mean that you always get what you are looking for.

Furthermore, there is in fact, such a thing as too much information. A lot of Google returns are irrelevant.

In my opinion...And Youtube does not seem to have the zazz that it did before, I agree there too.

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Well you (not you specifically, but you in general) need to learn HOW to google. There is such a thing as being bad at it. You have to learn what kind of wording to use, how to scroll past the irrelevant things. You can use the advanced search to edit out certain words or to specify that you want a certain series of words. Just typing in "hamster" without any other reference for the search to go on is just asking for a bunch of stupid things. But typing in, "hamster threw up" or "hamster toys" or "ways to play with your hamster" or "hamster food" would get better results.

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It's still not fool proof though. Sometimes adding more words to a search can narrow down results, and sometimes it can make it all the wrose. Because instead of getting items related to the search you'll get everything related to the first half and everything related to the second half. But yeah, the only way you'll get me to use Google is if every, and I do mean EVERY, other search engine died and went to Internet Hell.

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That's exactly what me and Fett_II explained. If you use advanced search or put your words in quotation marks you will get results about both words, not results about one word or the other. That's still not going to make it magically know what you're looking for exactly, but you learn to scroll past the useless stuff, and if I can't find what I want within 5-10 pages I type in my search with a different wording.

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CeciliaCrimsondragonFett wrote:

It's still not fool proof though. Sometimes adding more words to a search can narrow down results, and sometimes it can make it all the wrose. Because instead of getting items related to the search you'll get everything related to the first half and everything related to the second half. But yeah, the only way you'll get me to use Google is if every, and I do mean EVERY, other search engine died and went to Internet Hell.

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Quite right you are, Fett_II.

Tachyon, my argument could stand for any search engine. But if you specifically single out Google and say "it doesn't give me what I want" when that's the only search where you don't use correct searching methods, then you're setting this test up to fail.

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Miba wrote:

Quite right you are, Fett_II.

Tachyon, my argument could stand for any search engine. But if you specifically single out Google and say "it doesn't give me what I want" when that's the only search where you don't use correct searching methods, then you're setting this test up to fail.

Well, I never said that Google specifically doesn't give me what I want. I said that it doesn't do it BETTER than any other engine out there if you know HOW to search for what your looking for. I have never NOT been able to find exactly what I was looking for using Yahoo and I recently ran a test and got exactly the same returns for the first "10,234,345" sites. Most humans are going to stop looking after the first five to ten sites or until they find the info they are looking for.