so after seeing maou saving the people it make emi why he is saving them cue flashback of her child years as a farmer's daughter normal life til priest come take as chosen one to defeat the demons.

& afterward showing her farm land got burned cue forward wonder why compare maou from being demon ruler to nice guy in japan while wonder even hanging around her call pals friend give she had prob with quake in kobe.

yet emi wonder about everything from before to now & news going of mugging with maou & sidekick heard about from cops (give maou found chiho got daddy cops which twist reveal got chiho to hear voices since maou did magic on her dad).

emi visit maou some blah & fell then some talk give wonder calling out why are you nice guy in japan while back in esta isla you burn everything include my farm's daddy.

Damm this anime is getting better and better. I agree it does have a pretty good balance with the comedy and the serious part and it is blending it very well although it got me confused a bit .

My favorite part was when yuusha really poured out her confusion of Maou's change of heart and then it became a comedic scene lol

On a different note, Its funny how a Lucifer and Satan are 2 separate entity becuase to me they are one and the same , its the name and it means "shining one, the morning star"

All this. I think this is the biggest surprise of the season for me. I didn't know much going in, but based on an initial synopsis, it seemed like it might be mildly entertaining but not much else. So wrong! It's funny, it's romantic, it's dramatic, it's got character development, it's got plot that's well-paced and otherwise executed in a way that feels interesting instead of dull.

Finding shows like this is why I've adopted a policy of watching a few episodes of even shows that don't stand out based on initial descriptions.

Also finding it odd about the Lucifer and Satan thing. It's almost certainly due to haphazard pulling from sources without much familiarity and not paying much attention, but wouldn't it be interesting if it ended up being meaningful somehow?

It's probably just because Japan usually has no idea about western or Judeo-Christian mythology in general. But it'd def be cool if it came up later.

Overall, this is a cute show. I don't really see any particularly unique or original character designs in this, but they play well enough off of each other that I can forgive it. I feel like there are a lot of situations that could have been done better, comedically, but that might be because my cultural sense of humor is different than an Eastern one. It's still much funnier than that vast majority of other recent comedy anime, so that's something.

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Also finding it odd about the Lucifer and Satan thing. It's almost certainly due to haphazard pulling from sources without much familiarity and not paying much attention, but wouldn't it be interesting if it ended up being meaningful somehow?

Or, it was intentionally misleading, to throw us all off at first for the reveal in this ep that Maou isn't totally the bad guy, or at least not a heartless one (like Lucifer), and so now Emilia can get over her hate and then, well, we already knew where this was going after that, right? After all," Maou" doesn't really mean the Devil, literally. It means demon lord, and why wouldn't there be multiples of those? All along it has sort of bothered me that they translated the title the way they did.

Also finding it odd about the Lucifer and Satan thing. It's almost certainly due to haphazard pulling from sources without much familiarity and not paying much attention, but wouldn't it be interesting if it ended up being meaningful somehow?

I've seen splits done like this in other places, most notably in Neil Gaiman's Sandman where Lucifer and Beelzebub are different characters. If you look at the various sources, there are plenty of inconsistencies and interpretations which would allow you to treat them all as the same entity or different ones.

To be honest, I was expecting something like Lucifer to show up. While the show is a little predictable, I'm still enjoying it a lot primarily because the characters are very well done.

lorreenwrote:
Also finding it odd about the Lucifer and Satan thing. It's almost certainly due to haphazard pulling from sources without much familiarity and not paying much attention, but wouldn't it be interesting if it ended up being meaningful somehow?

Or, it was intentionally misleading, to throw us all off at first for the reveal in this ep that Maou isn't totally the bad guy, or at least not a heartless one (like Lucifer), and so now Emilia can get over her hate and then, well, we already knew where this was going after that, right? After all," Maou" doesn't really mean the Devil, literally. It means demon lord, and why wouldn't there be multiples of those? All along it has sort of bothered me that they translated the title the way they did.

I agree, she asked Maou how he could kill her father when really it was Lucifer that killed him. So now the love triangle with his co worker can continue full force...

Maou 魔王 is literally demon king, not just lord. Now, there can still be more than one king of course but it is stronger than just lord. Satan is usually the king of demons so a more figurative translation of Satan, Lucifer, Beelzebub et al is common even though there is no Satan in Shinto or Buddhism. Somewhere along the way all the names became separate, even in the west many think this way.

Hataraku 働くmeans working, not part time so the english title is misleading in even more ways but I guess "Working Satan" doesn't have the same ring to it... バイト魔王様 Baito Maou sama would have been better if they wanted him to be a part timer. Or for really long light novel names 魔王様はバイトをする人ですよ！ Maou sama wa baito o suru hito desu yo! would really translate well into the current English title.

Also finding it odd about the Lucifer and Satan thing. It's almost certainly due to haphazard pulling from sources without much familiarity and not paying much attention, but wouldn't it be interesting if it ended up being meaningful somehow?

I've seen splits done like this in other places, most notably in Neil Gaiman's Sandman where Lucifer and Beelzebub are different characters. If you look at the various sources, there are plenty of inconsistencies and interpretations which would allow you to treat them all as the same entity or different ones.

To be honest, I was expecting something like Lucifer to show up. While the show is a little predictable, I'm still enjoying it a lot primarily because the characters are very well done.

The split is funny in High School DxD where they separate demons from fallen angels too.

One god or devil, multiple? Even Christianity can't get it straight wanting one god but then splitting it into 3 and then adding saints... the pull to polytheism is strong it seems...

Yes, the show is going down the predictable routes but I like the characters, it is very funny and the twist of the red head being the hero instead of the demon is fun this time though unlike most red headed Maou's she is not oppai for some reason LOL Means we get pettanko jokes instead of oppai jokes but that's OK too.

Also finding it odd about the Lucifer and Satan thing. It's almost certainly due to haphazard pulling from sources without much familiarity and not paying much attention, but wouldn't it be interesting if it ended up being meaningful somehow?

I've seen splits done like this in other places, most notably in Neil Gaiman's Sandman where Lucifer and Beelzebub are different characters. If you look at the various sources, there are plenty of inconsistencies and interpretations which would allow you to treat them all as the same entity or different ones.

To be honest, I was expecting something like Lucifer to show up. While the show is a little predictable, I'm still enjoying it a lot primarily because the characters are very well done.

That's true. Some stories conflate archetypal characters from prior myths and stories of various times and places, and some split them up, and there really is no one true canon, when it comes right down to it. Thank you for the reminder.

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Also finding it odd about the Lucifer and Satan thing. It's almost certainly due to haphazard pulling from sources without much familiarity and not paying much attention, but wouldn't it be interesting if it ended up being meaningful somehow?

Or, it was intentionally misleading, to throw us all off at first for the reveal in this ep that Maou isn't totally the bad guy, or at least not a heartless one (like Lucifer), and so now Emilia can get over her hate and then, well, we already knew where this was going after that, right?

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Yeah, helping a couple of people out and being a good fast food employee totally makes up for that whole "genocidal conquest" thing. And the "you killed my father" thing, too. Besides, with such a heartfelt apology and deep understanding of his own crimes, how could she not fall for him? I mean, are you serious? "Now she can get over her hate for him"? He'd have to sacrifice himself to save the Earth or something along those lines to make up for what he's done.

Yeah, helping a couple of people out and being a good fast food employee totally makes up for that whole "genocidal conquest" thing. And the "you killed my father" thing, too. Besides, with such a heartfelt apology and deep understanding of his own crimes, how could she not fall for him? I mean, are you serious? "Now she can get over her hate for him"? He'd have to sacrifice himself to save the Earth or something along those lines to make up for what he's done.

Not sure if anyone has covered it yet in this thread but there is the distinct possibility that Maou-sama was raised in a proverbial bubble. Much like Eli was breed into a hero her job was to destroy the demons, Maou's job as being raised in a demons realm was to be strong and ruthless and possibly kill mankind because if they don't mankind will eventually kill them.

Maou-sama never lived as a human so how can he understand a humans suffering? When Emi was pouring her heart out last episode Maou's reaction seemed callus to Emi but as far as he is concerned the idea of love and family are totally new to him(presumably) so he really never did "look at it like that."