Why and how would it tear the country apart? And why focus on gay marriage as top priority or reason for the decline of the nation?

[2] January 16, 2015 at 9:30pm

CrazyTravis responded:

Roe v wade isn't exactly tearing the nation apart. Only about a third of Americans favor banning abortion and one out of 3 women have an abortion during their lifetime. Gay marriage effects a lot less people then abortion and no fetuses suffer from gay marriage. Gay marriage has been legal in my state for a few months and i haven't even been tempted to marry a dude

[1] January 17, 2015 at 4:35pm

MostlyLib responded:

You can make the same argument about slavery, womens suffrage, segregation etc.. All of which ultimately make the country a more perfect union. LGBT rights are no different except in narrowminded Americans that cannot shake their cultural prejudice against people.

[-3] January 16, 2015 at 7:39pm

Marriage is a product of the synergy between a man and a woman. That space between those two complimentary creatures, man and woman, is where marriage grows. To insist that man and man is the same as man and woman, is to embrace unreality– not to mention being a little insulting to women. But we have already embraced unreality in insisting that those two fantastically different, if beautifully complimentary,types of creatures called men and women, are the same. So the Supreme Court probably will announce they have invented marriage between two homosexual men, something no one can do. But it does not mean homosexual marriage will actually exist. Marriage was given by God, or evolved in nature (I’ll accept either) and RECOGNIZED by governments, but not defined by them, as it existed before they did.
There was a man once who said: If the blind lead the blind, they will both fall into a pit. Is this a serious moral admonition, or a deep profundity? No, it’s just common sense. If we embrace unreality, we’re going to do the same. Get ready for chaos, folks.

I'm not the same as a woman, but I'm also not the same as any other man, and my wife is not the same as any other woman. I chose my wife above all other women for the ways in which we are alike as much as the ways we are different. Since all people are different, and all people are alike, I don't see any reason why two men or two women can't have a marriage.

Facts alter that..
Fact: She identified as female
Fact: She identified as female since early childhood
Fact: There is no reliable physiological test for 'gender', not chromosomal, not biochemical.
Fact: By all available evidence she never deviated from her gender identity
Fact: The organ that determines ones gender is the brain
Fact: She was female.
Fact: She died because her parents did not accept that nor did she believe that society would either.

[6] January 3, 2015 at 12:51am

Wolfbane62 responded:

Chromosomal evidence determines gender. One is either male or female. "Transgenderism" is a severe mental disorder and should be treated as such.

January 3, 2015 at 3:21am

MostlyLib responded:

@Wolfbane62
"Chromosomal evidence determines gender."
For the umpteenth time, no it does not. That is not a belief, it is not wishful thinking it is just scientific fact that ones Chromosomes (or I think you mean specifically the sex chromosomes) are not reliable at determining gender.
Why? For lots of scientific reasons starting with the fact that there are known genetic conditions (AIS, XX Male etc) which invalidate this, coupled with the fact that any condition that develops after conception will not change the chromosomes even if it 'changes' ones organs.
This is not conjecture, this is not speculation.. this is *real* indisputable scientific fact.
Aside from that, you don't even know what Leelahs chromosomes were. You almost certainly don't know your own but are just guessing. In 99.9% of cases your method probably works but then in the other cases, it is wildly inaccurate because it doesn't account for a human development pathway that veers from the default.
Why do so many people here not seem to grasp what role genetics actually plays in human development? Seriously why do you think the IOC abandoned using such tests for gender verification? Clue: Because they don't work 100%!

[3] January 3, 2015 at 4:25am

Git-R-Done responded:

That doesn't mean he was a female just b/c he claimed he was.
It isn't psychology, it's genetics and physiology that determine gender.

[6] January 3, 2015 at 4:26am

Git-R-Done responded:

Mostly - You aren't using scientific facts. The brain does NOT determine gender. The IOC is filled with leftist nutjobs who will fall for anything.
Even with the gender genetic abnormalities, you're still either male or female like it or not.

[3] January 3, 2015 at 5:16pm

Wolfbane62 responded:

The IOC clearly have a political agenda. That organization has many members of the sodomite society in high positions of power and influence. The FACT is that gender is determined by chromosomes no matter what the mental state of a person claims. Transgenderism is a severe mental illness. Nothing more. Nothing less.

January 3, 2015 at 7:30pm

MostlyLib responded:

Seriously!? The IOC has a leftist conspiracy to erase chromosome gender tests!? Seriously!?
*sigh* Okay.. If that is seriously your reaction then clearly there is no point trying to reason with you. If everything you don't like is a secret conspiracy then there is really nothing anyone can ever possibly say to you that could change your mind.
Good Luck!

January 5, 2015 at 9:31am

Git-R-Done responded:

Mostly - Don't be upset that the fact is the IOC is run by political leftist hacks.

[12] January 2, 2015 at 8:32pm

People like you, aiding and abetting his delusions, are responsible for his death.