Unfortunatelly, the hawks are part of this as much as the pigeons.We have similar issues here also.Most of the people stop flying their birds during the hawk season,which changes from region to region.Our season is from October 15th to April 15th.

I would suggest the same to you.If the birds are hitting 4 hrs of flight I don't think you have a thing to worry.Now at the beginning of the next flight season (once the hawks are gone) you will have to push them a little bit but it won't be like what you went through with them this time around.They will quickly shed their winter fat and get in shape.This time again depends on the bloodline you have in your hands.Some birds take just a few days and some several weeks.Then again there are bloodlines which could easily become stuck again.

On the other hand if you think the hawk traffic is light enough to fly them once a week or every other week, go for it.The thing to remember is the hawks are extremely smart and if they end up getting a bird from your loft, they will be around.Sooner or later they will figure your flight patterns.So, it helps to be random if you are going to continue flying.

It's been about 6 weeks now since my birds was attacked by hawkAfter that I have seen them high above the sky once or twice but they didn't bother to attack my birds

I think it's because I have thousands of feral pigeons in my area all the time of the year so there is no shortage of prey.

and the attack before that was about another 6/8 weeks agoSo I guess it's not that bad.

I think I would go for the risky option of flying them, but less frequently in the winter season

One otherthing I wanted to ask you is my taklas go really high like highflyers that I need to use binoculars to watch them (without binoculars they're like tiny spec in the sky ) they fly for hours that high and tumbles ( double and triples) as well Very frequently.

After couple of hours high flight then they come down and start charging the loft and claiming up clapping and tumble (double and triples ) then do a circle around the loft, they repeat this over and over again for hours Then come down and through the trapdoor.

I know the father ( the floor tumbler ) does fit the description of an urfa But the mother I think is an Ankara I'm only saying this because the babies are flying high and tumbles as well

I have tried to describe their behaviour so can you tell me what breeds are they because I'm worried that they have a fault in the bloodline that is why they tumbles while flying so high

Can you clarify this for me please

Once again thanks for all of your advice as I have benefited the mostWithout your advices I still would've flying taklas for 10/15 minutes a day and probably would have gave up by now

M Sheikh wrote:my taklas go really high like highflyers that I need to use binoculars to watch them (without binoculars they're like tiny spec in the sky ) they fly for hours that high and tumbles ( double and triples) as well Very frequently.

After couple of hours high flight then they come down and start charging the loft and claiming up clapping and tumble (double and triples ) then do a circle around the loft, they repeat this over and over again for hours Then come down and through the trapdoor.

Hi Sheikh,I am pretty sure you are flying the birds in a kit from your description.If so, seperate them fr flight.As soon as you see a young bird do a combination or two it is time to fly them alone.

If this is not done, some Takla bloodlines will behave like highfliers.That is probably why they are hitting 4 hours range also.If they are flown alone, they will show you their real performance, which should be a lot better then what you are seeing right now.Sounds like you already like their performance and with a change from kit to single flight you might be much more impressed with the birds in your hands.If they are flown alone, they should start flying lower, perform much more frequently and each performance should improve in quality, strength and distance a great deal.

About 20 years ago I flew my young birds in a kit because of a bet with a Russian roller fancier around here.Got the same deal you have in your hands right now.

I'm flying them alone but they are only flying for about 45 minutes while they are flying they are flying low and going around the loft and then charge towards to the loft seems like its going land ( by spreading the legs and bending the neck looking down) but then start clapping the wing then tumble 2/3 time and climbing up like a helicopter.

Once he has done the clapping, tumbling and climbing for few time then he would go round the loft and do something again and again but the thing is they would do the same thing if I let 2/3 of them out at the same time once they have finish flying high for about 2/3 hours and when they are down below they would fly around 90 minutes above the loft and do all the performance that I've mention earlier.

One otherthing I've noticed ( I use binoculars to watch them) that when they are really high they tumble while flying

also do clapping , ( if the day is quite then I can hear them) climbing and tumbling they would stay on one spot for minute or two and repeat this couple of time then move on while they are moving they would just tumble after 10/15 meters but not clapping and climbing.

They would only clap , climb and tumble once they've decide to stay on one spot it's like a sort of dance competition among them

Hi Sheikh,I must say this is just what i have expected.They decrease the leght of flight.On the other hand they perform more than couple flight i guess...Continue fly them solo they will increase the lenght of flight and number of taklas and clapping distance. When they adjusted to fly solo they will start fly higher,i hope.

Sorry about your bird.4 days is a long time but i must quote from Taking On Tyson:"as long as his hart pumps up, he will come"I lost many in this season. But, breeding continues and young birds replace previous generation.Hope pairing and breeding goes well and you fly pretty young ones in next season.