Mr. Karras. I wonder if the "masses" will remember his banishment from the NFL for gambling in the early 60's. Probably not, as so many think that "golden age" was so pure. Much more than Webster, IMO he was "Mongo" on Blazing Saddles.

Later that year Karras reportedly sold his ownership share in the Lindell A.C., a Detroit bar that was frequented by athletes and, according to the Detroit police, “known hoodlums,” to convince Rozelle that he was repentant — he denied this later — and Rozelle reinstated both men after 11 months, in time for them to play in 1964. Shortly after Karras returned, an official asked him to call the pregame coin toss and Karras, with cheeky disdain, refused.

Later that year Karras reportedly sold his ownership share in the Lindell A.C., a Detroit bar that was frequented by athletes and, according to the Detroit police, “known hoodlums,” to convince Rozelle that he was repentant — he denied this later — and Rozelle reinstated both men after 11 months, in time for them to play in 1964. Shortly after Karras returned, an official asked him to call the pregame coin toss and Karras, with cheeky disdain, refused.

Especially all those old-time horsemen that keep fighting-c-o-c-ks in their barns

I knew a prominent horse trainer here in MD who held *** fights....I never would go to one......But I watched him train them sometimes.....Instead of razor blades in the "feet" they had little red boxing gloves on them