In a phone call to Khairy Ramadan on CBC-EG, Sawiris explained his idea as “both countries have many unpopulated small islands, i will talk to Italy as i have a good relation with the government there, If not, Greece has a financial crisis, so i think they don’t have plans to develop these islands in the near future. We’ll develop and make these islands livable for refugees, provide jobs, and safe place till the war is over”.