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Wishbone: One game I'd like to see here is Mindrover: The Europa Project. I'm pretty sure that all rights for the game reside with the creator, Kent Quirk, so if he is open to the idea of selling it again, it might be possible to get it here. The question is whether GOG will deem it worth their time. The game only has 21 votes on the wishlist, and as a programming game it does belong to a very "niche" genre. On the other hand, SpaceChem, another programming game, has done very well recently.

I'm unsure of how to proceed, but I assume the logical next step would be to ask Kent Quirk if he'd be interested in selling the game here. On the other hand, maybe it would be prudent first to ask GOG if they would actually sell the game. If they are not interested, the whole thing is pointless.

tfishell: To be honest, most of the time I was making contact and letting the rights' owner see if GOG would be interested in selling the game. But if you believe you'll get a decent response, it may save you some time if you check with GOG first.

Wait, are you saying that, in the past you've checked with GOG to see if they'd be interested in certain titles and they've given you a straight yes or no answer?

tfishell: To be honest, most of the time I was making contact and letting the rights' owner see if GOG would be interested in selling the game. But if you believe you'll get a decent response, it may save you some time if you check with GOG first.

Fever_Discordia: Wait, are you saying that, in the past you've checked with GOG to see if they'd be interested in certain titles and they've given you a straight yes or no answer?

I can't think of times this has happened. What I was trying to convey is that, by PMing somebody like Turnipslayerr about a specific game and asking if GOG might be interested, you might avoid making unnecessary contacts or spending unnecessary time writing an email to Kent. BUT the GOG staff may be too busy to respond right now, so getting an answer is not guaranteed. I'm just posing an idea.

I've been told on a few occasions that certain games (and one full catalog of too-old titles) were rejected after I made contact with the companies, I think as Turnipslayerr's way of suggesting I focus more on games higher up on the wishlist or more objectively good titles. (This was when I was going through Abandonia and probably not using as much discretion as I should have.)

Fever_Discordia: Wait, are you saying that, in the past you've checked with GOG to see if they'd be interested in certain titles and they've given you a straight yes or no answer?

tfishell: I can't think of times this has happened. What I was trying to convey is that, by PMing somebody like Turnipslayerr about a specific game and asking if GOG might be interested, you might avoid making unnecessary contacts or spending unnecessary time writing an email to Kent. BUT the GOG staff may be too busy to respond right now, so getting an answer is not guaranteed. I'm just posing an idea.

I've been told on a few occasions that certain games (and one full catalog of too-old titles) were rejected after I made contact with the companies, I think as Turnipslayerr's way of suggesting I focus more on games higher up on the wishlist or more objectively good titles. (This was when I was going through Abandonia and probably not using as much discretion as I should have.)

"I know you won't respond, but can we see Freddy Pharkas and more Activision classics on @GOGcom ? ;) Please bring 'em!"

"We can pass your feedback along Tyler, you never know what the future holds... ;) ^NM"

OK cool - interesting to know! Speaking of stuff high up the wishlist, the Jazz Jackrabbit games are the ones that puzzle me most for not being here - they were developed and published by Epic (formerly Epic Megagames) who have other games published here so what gives? Unless they're afraid whoever owns the rights to Bucky O'Hare is finally going to sue them for ripping them off after all these years!

Fever_Discordia: Speaking of stuff high up the wishlist, the Jazz Jackrabbit games are the ones that puzzle me most for not being here - they were developed and published by Epic (formerly Epic Megagames) who have other games published here so what gives? Unless they're afraid whoever owns the rights to Bucky O'Hare is finally going to sue them for ripping them off after all these years!

That was weirding me out too, but I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that Jazz Jackrabbit 2 was published by GOD games, owned and shut down by Take 2. It's possible the involvement of Take 2 is complicating things, or we would have seen Jazz show up a long time ago.

Publishers seem to be funny things, unfortunately. There are still so many great classics locked in the vaults of pubs we have here already. I'm hoping January will bring delightful surprises, but after a mixed-bag summer and fall (some fantastic classics, but also few from big-name publishers and no new publisher) I'm not going to get my hopes up too high.

Whoa, I just realized /both/ Epic Games and ZeniMax/Bethesda appear to be in Rockville Maryland, which I think is only an hour or so from where I live. If GOG were paying for gas I'd be willing to try and stop by. ;)

tfishell: Whoa, I just realized /both/ Epic Games and ZeniMax/Bethesda appear to be in Rockville Maryland, which I think is only an hour or so from where I live. If GOG were paying for gas I'd be willing to try and stop by. ;)

I used to live in that area as well (in Vienna and Oakton VA). I was living there when they released Fallout 3 and it was fun figuring out what the new townships mapped to in place of the actual ones, as well as the Metro stations.

Meanwhile, I heard back from Bernd Beyreuther this morning about Project Nomads. Here is the relevant info he provided:

i have doubts if they have all of the contracts in place to find out where exactly are the right

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If someone more fluent with law and/or German wants to follow this up, let me know. Otherwise I'll try to do some outreach myself.

Hmm, does that mean someone needs to buy the rights first before GOG can release it? Edit: Quite a lot of CDV stuff isn't available for sale from digital distributors. Maybe Nordic should pick up the catalog and help re-distribute those games.

tfishell: Whoa, I just realized /both/ Epic Games and ZeniMax/Bethesda appear to be in Rockville Maryland, which I think is only an hour or so from where I live. If GOG were paying for gas I'd be willing to try and stop by. ;)

IAmSinistar: I used to live in that area as well (in Vienna and Oakton VA). I was living there when they released Fallout 3 and it was fun figuring out what the new townships mapped to in place of the actual ones, as well as the Metro stations.

Meanwhile, I heard back from Bernd Beyreuther this morning about Project Nomads. Here is the relevant info he provided:

i have doubts if they have all of the contracts in place to find out where exactly are the right

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If someone more fluent with law and/or German wants to follow this up, let me know. Otherwise I'll try to do some outreach myself.

Not really the lawyer talking type here, but if thats with an insolvency lawyer hes probably looking out to sell the whole package of CDV because selling parts reduces the value of the rest and makes it harder to sell it off.

But then again... its from 4 years ago. Might as well be happy for every cent he could get for it by now.

I like what you guys are doing in this thread. I'd like to help, but there's so much stuff in this thread and I don't even know where to start or what has been accomplished already. I think it would be great if there was a shared document available for everybody to see the current progress of everything.

By the way, I speak French, I live in Montreal and I have a few contacts with people in the video game industry in that area. Not sure whether that's helpful or not, but let me know if you require my help.

SmashManiac: I like what you guys are doing in this thread. I'd like to help, but there's so much stuff in this thread and I don't even know where to start or what has been accomplished already. I think it would be great if there was a shared document available for everybody to see the current progress of everything.

By the way, I speak French, I live in Montreal and I have a few contacts with people in the video game industry in that area. Not sure whether that's helpful or not, but let me know if you require my help.

Thanks for offering your help! Feel free to make a list of the games that you'd personally like to see on GOG, and we'll see if there's been any overlap there, or if we already know who holds the rights to those games.

SmashManiac: I like what you guys are doing in this thread. I'd like to help, but there's so much stuff in this thread and I don't even know where to start or what has been accomplished already. I think it would be great if there was a shared document available for everybody to see the current progress of everything.

Not too long ago tfishell put together a document collecting all the info to date and shared it out. Hopefully he can post the link again. It should be somewhere earlier in this thread too.

tfishell: Whoa, I just realized /both/ Epic Games and ZeniMax/Bethesda appear to be in Rockville Maryland, which I think is only an hour or so from where I live. If GOG were paying for gas I'd be willing to try and stop by. ;)

IAmSinistar: I used to live in that area as well (in Vienna and Oakton VA). I was living there when they released Fallout 3 and it was fun figuring out what the new townships mapped to in place of the actual ones, as well as the Metro stations.

Meanwhile, I heard back from Bernd Beyreuther this morning about Project Nomads. Here is the relevant info he provided:

SmashManiac: I like what you guys are doing in this thread. I'd like to help, but there's so much stuff in this thread and I don't even know where to start or what has been accomplished already. I think it would be great if there was a shared document available for everybody to see the current progress of everything.

IAmSinistar: Not too long ago tfishell put together a document collecting all the info to date and shared it out. Hopefully he can post the link again. It should be somewhere earlier in this thread too.

Erm, well, actually, I only ever had a few text documents sharing the stuff I had been working on and the games from publishers we already had here. Sorry, I don't remember what you're referring to. :P