IT IS ABOUT F’ING TIME THE IRANIANS DO THIS. THE US ARMED FORCES ARE ON EITHER SIDE OF YOUR COUNTRY. YOU WILL HAVE NO BETTER FRIEND THAN A US MARINE. THEY ARE THERE. NOT FAR AWAY. THEY OWE THE MULLAHS.

God these people are inspiring me! I don’t care why they do it, I want the mullahs to go and from many blogs I have read, there is no great love for A’jad’s opponent, the citizens are seizing this opportunity to rise up!

Shore nuff. Part of Bush’s plan was to surround Iran, the principal terrorist nation and then put the squeeze on them. I think he was counting on a right minded president to succeed him. With the guy who plays the president on tv, this situaion may be compromised or be much more difficult that intended. However, there are US forces on two of their borders.

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posted on 06/19/2009 2:11:37 PM PDT
by Texas resident
(Texan by birth and by choice.)

The coward Obama will do nothing for them.
They are on their own.
Of course, if they succeed, a BIG if, Obama will attempt to claim credit for it.
But at this point, succeeding may bring nothing but another effed up regime to deal with. I hope not.

This could turn out to be the defining moment of Obama’s presidency. Biden was right, and the test is now. A president can either rise to the occasion and stand for freedom, or retreat in disgrace.Our enemies are paying close attention to Obama’s every move, searching for any signs of weakness.

The world is watching. The brave people of Iran are hoping and praying for support in their extreme hour of need.

Sounds to me that the Ayatollah has given an ultimatum to the protesters to either stop the protests or there will be blood in the streets. This could get ugly real fast. The next 48 hours will be crucial

Incredible courage on display by people who want hope and change. Unfortunately, our CiC shares none of their desires and possesses none of their character. He won't even support them with his words. Obama is no friend of free people or people who wish to escape totalitarianism.

The events in Iran should be a game changer but the mindless automatons here ignore the world in favor of creating their nanny state utopia. We learn nothing.

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posted on 06/19/2009 2:39:12 PM PDT
by Mase
(Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)

Even though we may not help. Our presence in the region will prevent any outside forces from helping the mullahs oppress their people. If they start the killing, the people may very well finish it. We should put our troops on the borders to help the good refugees if necessary and to shoot the bad ones if we have the opportunity.

The opposition is shouting Allahu Akbar from their roofs. It is not about freedom. They are and remain Muslims and Muslims often rise from abulia to mob frenzy. This is the same crowd that turned against America. These are still hugely bickering groups (bickering among themselves), with no plan, no clarity, except dissatisfaction for the status quo. These are not the Hungarians fighting Stalinism, East Germans hankering to pull down the wall. They are Muslims shouting Allah is Great. They are the frying pan to fire crowd. It is a Green Revolution - green as in the color of Islam. It might likely inspire similar green revolutions among the restive Islamic brotherhoods of the world. No bill of rights will issue from this, only chaos. The chaos of the Islamic ethos which will - should they be successful - lead to another totalitarian regime.

The US does well to stay out. No lover of democracy, or human rights would shout “Allah is Great” as a battle cry.

Their leader is no moderate. He is practically one of the inventors of Hezbollah.

“By the way, two nights ago I went out to see a few things ... as the general crowds spread into their homes militia style Mousavi supporters were out on the streets ‘Basiji hunting’. Their resolve is no less than these thugs — they after hunting them down. They use their phones, their childhood friends, their intimate knowledge of their districts and neighbours to plan their attacks — they’re organised and they’re supported by their community so they have little fear. They create the havoc they’re after, ambush the thugs, use their Cocktail Molotovs, disperse and re-assemble elsewhere and then start again - and the door of every house is open to them as safe harbour — they’re community-connected.”

There are supposed to be units made up from Arab-extremists (Hezbollah types) that are augmenting the Mullahs' security forces. I don't think that these Arab battalions are going to have any problem slaughtering Persians in pursuit of some hardline Islamic theology.

The wild-card may be the Iranian Army. Whichever side that they come down on will win. I'm sure that the Mullahs are busily reviewing the 'reliability' of units in the Tehran area.

WHile Iranians are bravely marching for their freedom that is the time to bomb the nuke plants... Bomb them already...strike while the wind is still swirling over the mullahs heads. Bomb the nukes and eff the UN and world reactions!

Invasions have frequently had the opposite effect in that it has given license to the invaded country to crackdown on dissent. I don’t claim to know what would happen in the unlikely event that the US Army rolls, but I think that it is more likely to harden the Iranian response rather than weaken it.

Then your sitting there with a thin slice of Iranian territory an no “Plan B.” Iran is a pretty vast & rugged country.

Are they not shouting God is Great from the rooftops, the same as when the protests were anti-Shah and anti-American? Is their leader not virulently anti-Israel, pro-nuclear, pro-Hezbollah?

My conclusion is that this is not really about democracy, but merely another instance of Islamic chaos.. which I’m more than happy to say is good for the world. Wonderful if the Iranians are too busy to further harm Israel and Lebanon. But I see no good coming from shouting Allahu-Akbar from the rooftops and the use of the color green.

It’s messy and confusing and I think it’s something that they should sort out entirely among themselves.

If the street demonstrations were to really get out-of-hand, the Mullahs might lose political power. It would appear that Khameni has cut the cord with the loser of the election. If that individual were to benefit, and consolidate power, Khameni & his crew might be out.

I agree that this wouldn’t mean a ‘friendly’ Iran, but it certainly would be an improvement for the average Iranian — especially females.

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