Re: A peppery sweet leathery fragrance

the reformulated Bel Ami is definitely spicy/peppery with a bit of leather. the originalBel Ami was much more of a pure leather...while the recently reformulated one takes some clove, pepper, and spice....and throws it into a subtle leather fragrance.

it's not a bad scent, yet definitely not as striking as more pure leather scents.

Re: A peppery sweet leathery fragrance

Re: A peppery sweet leathery fragrance

peppery, sweet, leather - sounds like a spanish leather. sometimes the leather plays a secondary role in these sweet spicey leathers. I recomend:

Odori Cuio - a ginger spicey sweet leather fragrance. Among the best from Odori.Elsha 1776 - very warm spice leather - very pleasant and easy to wear. (I have this up on my for sale post, btw!)Pinaud Special Reserve - spicey, honey spanish leather that dries down into warm rustic suede leather. Very Inexpensive fragrance that is @ $6 - $8 online from drustore.com and other sites and is probably my favorite of this bunch.

Re: A peppery sweet leathery fragrance

Try Poivre Samarcande (Hermessence) by Hermes. It's a subtle scent, and it took me about 3-4 wearings to finally 'get', but it encompasses all of your three requests, very stylishly. The only drawback, is it's expensive price tag.

And, I disagree with the Bel Ami recommendation. I don't think BA is sweet at all.

Re: A peppery sweet leathery fragrance

The three qualities - sweet, peppery, leathery - are somewhat discordant. There are plenty of fragrances with any two, but I can't think of nay with all three... it's getting peppery and sweet together that's the tough part.

DZing! probably comes closest, though it's not particularly sweet. Cuiron is leathery and sweet - as it PG's Cuir Venenum, but neither are peppery. Oud Cuir d'Arabie is peppery and leathery, but far from sweet. And so on. I can't comment on Bel Ami but now I'm curious to try it.

Re: A peppery sweet leathery fragrance

Originally Posted by mikeperez23

Try Poivre Samarcande (Hermessence) by Hermes. It's a subtle scent, and it took me about 3-4 wearings to finally 'get', but it encompasses all of your three requests, very stylishly. The only drawback, is it's expensive price tag.

And, I disagree with the Bel Ami recommendation. I don't think BA is sweet at all.

well Poivre Samarcande is not a leather scent, mate! :P

Bel Ami (original) is not sweet, however Bel Ami (reformulated) has a very light sweet and spicy feel to it....definitely not very sweet, but mos definitely spicy (unlike the original)

Re: A peppery sweet leathery fragrance

Lately I've been touting Etat Libre d'Orange's leathers every chance I can get. Vierges et Toreros, which is described by Luca Turin as "peppery leather" might just be what you're looking for. I might add there is some sweetness in its amber notes as well. Right now it's my favorite new style leather scent.

Re: A peppery sweet leathery fragrance

Originally Posted by mikeperez23

Try Poivre Samarcande (Hermessence) by Hermes. It's a subtle scent, and it took me about 3-4 wearings to finally 'get', but it encompasses all of your three requests, very stylishly. The only drawback, is it's expensive price tag.

And, I disagree with the Bel Ami recommendation. I don't think BA is sweet at all.

Re: A peppery sweet leathery fragrance

Originally Posted by bbBD

The three qualities - sweet, peppery, leathery - are somewhat discordant. There are plenty of fragrances with any two, but I can't think of nay with all three... it's getting peppery and sweet together that's the tough part.

Agreed - hence my suggestion of Polo Double Black. In most cases, if a drag has all three of these qualities, one will be far subtler than the rest. DB is all of these, but not at the same time.

Re: A peppery sweet leathery fragrance

Originally Posted by bbBD
The three qualities - sweet, peppery, leathery - are somewhat discordant. There are plenty of fragrances with any two, but I can't think of nay with all three... it's getting peppery and sweet together that's the tough part.

Well there is one haha. To be honest I got "peppery sweet leathery" from the SirSlarty's review on BY Man.

I gotta give Double Black another chance. I tried it on paper, and it didnt satisfy me. But somehow i get the feeling, judging from the reviews and descriptions, that I'm goin to like this one if I spend more time with it.

Varvatos/V.Vintage , I really look forward on trying this ones. I hope i can find them in the store in The Netherlands, I did not see them at Douglas, but I'm going to try Ici Parix XL or De Bijenkorf.. I already was expecting to like this one, judging from the reviews, but now that they are named here on my topic I cant wait to try them.

I've spend too much money on fragances last month (8 new bottles, among wich 2 expensive By Man's), so a niche is out of my range.

WOW, I just saw on a Dutch website:
John Varvatos 125ML (4.22 oz) for 55 Euro.
John Varvatos 75ML (2.53 oz) for 50 Euro

Re: A peppery sweet leathery fragrance

Re: A peppery sweet leathery fragrance

Originally Posted by uptownbondboy

peau d'espange is by no stretch of the nostrils "sweet"

It's difficult to define sweet (salty or dry), cold and warm (soft, wet, etc.) in smells because these qualities actually are directly perceived by other human senses and only work via associations. I think it is quite possible that some people perceive Bel Ami and Peau d'Espagne as rather dry, while others, like myself, appreciate a certain amount of sweetness in them. I clearly pick up (unspecified) dried fruit in Peau d'E but little pepper, if any at all. I therefore find it sweet besides anything else that makes it beautiful, moderately sweet like pipe tobacco that has been stored together with dried fruit (apple slices, figs and orange maybe). Some describe Tauer's L'Air as smoky and dry, but I find it sweet to the point of becoming cloying after half an hour.

Daim Blond, Tabac Blond, Chanel's Cuir de Russie and Cuiron are all sweeter than those mentioned earlier. But they 'lack' pepper. - Have you tried layering, brianroy?

Re: A peppery sweet leathery fragrance

To name a few:

Equipage
Allure Homme
Cuiron
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