for both everything looks ok, but without internal shots you can never be sure, the necks have correct decal and sticker, which i have never seen faked, but its impossible to judge if the body is genuine without an internal view...

the red one is more likely to be genuine, as it has the original tags and case which indicate towards an original guitar, not saying the white one is not genuine, but less info and evidence.._________________http://www.japanguitars.co.uk

Could still be legit,I have seen 82s with "this is the exact replica "etc.Whether they have the final pro spec hardware is not clear. This guitar though according to the serial number is an 83 so it should have the "rock and roll" logo.Hmmm. _________________bluejeannot

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