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I'll go out and guess the new Tenshi is something Yuri created, because she felt they needed an enemy to carry on. She's probably the perfect embodiment of the cold, battling Tenshi that everone assumed Kanade was.

I'll go out and guess the new Tenshi is something Yuri created, because she felt they needed an enemy to carry on. She's probably the perfect embodiment of the cold, battling Tenshi that everone assumed Kanade was.

Damn, I haven't thought of it like this but interesting concept though

I'll go out and guess the new Tenshi is something Yuri created, because she felt they needed an enemy to carry on. She's probably the perfect embodiment of the cold, battling Tenshi that everyone assumed Kanade was.

But we saw her split off of Tenshi, so I doubt it. Seems really unlikely to me that Yuri somehow made her.

But we saw her split off of Tenshi, so I doubt it. Seems really unlikely to me that Yuri somehow made her.

Well, I wrote that she "indirectly" made her. I think that Yuri "hampered" Harmonics from her last hack into Kanade's PC. Second theory is Yuri's anger created the second Tenshi (Hopefully not, because it would be another Haruhi and Haruhi sux.)

Well, I wrote that she "indirectly" made her. I think that Yuri "hampered" Harmonics from her last hack into Kanade's PC. Second theory is Yuri's anger created the second Tenshi (Hopefully not, because it would be another Haruhi and Haruhi sux.)

YES we finally have something that sticks, good job. (￣。￣) Would also explain her sudden absence.

i was thinking maybe the second tenshi was formed/made when tenshi was saving them from the giant fish
why??
when are dashed towards the giant fish,you can see two tenshi there and if you look closely the red eyed tenshi dashed out and sliced the fish
clearly you can it is the red eyed tenshi
and here : you can clearly see two tenshi

so my guess is the second tenshi is some kind of personality spilt between the friendly tenshi(yellow eyes) and the "enforcer" tenshi(red eyes)

I don't really see why people are trying to make more out of this then necessary. Kanade clearly used Harmonics to save the SSS from being fish food. She didn't say "Guard Skill: Harmonics", but her Harmoniclone didn't need to say anything to activate dual Hand Sonics either.

The only real questions are:
1) Why did it go Rogue/What caused it to go Rogue?
2) Is it supposed to dissipate into thin air, and if not why didn't Kanade realize she hadn't reabsorbed the Harmoniclone?
3) Why Kanade felt the need to use Harmonics if it was untested and/or incomlete when she could've probably gotten adequate propulsion using Guard Skill: Delay.

I've got two theories on the Evil Tenshi, both revolving around Harmonics.
One: Kanade panicked. Forgetting they would revive after X period of time (albeit, I'm not sure if being digested would still permit revival), she used Harmonics, a technique still unperfected and under-tested, to help eliminate the threat. An offshoot of this theory can be that she wanted to impress them, and didn't panic, instead using her heroism to improve her standing among her new friends.
Two: Still viewing the SSS as enemies, she split into two, so that she could keep an eye on them while dealing with Yuri seperately, the only one who still completely untrusted her. Harmonics was actually a perfected move and the ability to form it as an evil split was something she was aware of.

I'm more partial to One, and there are some discrepancies with Two (such as why she didn't just let the fish eat them), but it's a possible enemy Tenshi path.

I do have another theory, ignoring Harmonics though.
The being Tachibana Kanade is a special being entered into the afterlife by some greater observing being (God?). The point to her existence is to regulate the flow of humans through the afterlife. However, given the power to self-evolve, she begins to stray from her intended path, and so the greater being adds another one of her, this time with more focus on her mission.

I really don't like this though, since it ruins a happy end for Kanade, and sounds pretty cheesy.

i was thinking maybe the second tenshi was formed/made when tenshi was saving them from the giant fish
why??
when are dashed towards the giant fish,you can see two tenshi there and if you look closely the red eyed tenshi dashed out and sliced the fish
clearly you can it is the red eyed tenshi
and here : you can clearly see two tenshi

so my guess is the second tenshi is some kind of personality spilt between the friendly tenshi(yellow eyes) and the "enforcer" tenshi(red eyes)

That couldnt possibly be an after image at all.

EDIT: Sarcasm directed at there being two people in the second image, the other speculation is a possibility.

I don't think it's so much an Evil Tenshi, more of an agressive Tenshi. Maybe Tenshi realised she wouldn't be able to stay with just defensive skills, so she created the Harmonizer thing to allow her to split in two, Agressive and Defensive to be used in certain situations?

When it splits off from her she does it to help them, so either something malfunctioned or she hasn't used it before so doesn't know how to keep it under control.

Thing that makes me think this, is she claims she has to help them/save them, but she can't do that in Defensive form.

Well, I wrote that she "indirectly" made her. I think that Yuri "hampered" Harmonics from her last hack into Kanade's PC.

YES we finally have something that sticks, good job. (￣。￣) Would also explain her sudden absence.

You really think Yuri is capable of hacking a computer?
I mean when from the looks of her flashback she didn't even know what a computer was before she died .
So to me feels like both of you just want to come up with a reason to blame Yurippe for this, and make her out to be the villain . Also we saw what they were doing on her computer the whole time, and Christ didn't really seem to modify anything then.

Kanade's Harmonic twin sister malfunctioning sounds the most plausible at the moment to me. It explains:
- Why she's never used it before (because it's still being tested / is incomplete)
- A logical beginning to the crisis (during the fish thing)
- Whatever the hell happened with the Harmonics clone when the anime never showed it again afterwards (it went rogue)
- Where Yuri ran off to, according to this post:

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Originally Posted by cjl

Maybe Yuri noticed the clone. She was the only one that didn't help reel in the fish and afterwards, she's the only one that wasn't standing with the group admiring their catch.
Maybe she noticed and followed the clone and then got attacked.

Also, my theory for why Kanade has all these skill hax: She was a genius programmer in her previous life. It just so happens that this afterlife functions like in a computer, and she has found a way to manipulate the programs.

You really think Yuri is capable of hacking a computer?
I mean when from the looks of her flashback she didn't even know what a computer was before she died .
So to me feels like both of you just want to come up with a reason to blame Yurippe for this, and make her out to be the villain . Also we saw what they were doing on her computer the whole time, and Christ didn't really seem to modify anything then.

It wasn't Yuri that hacked it, but she did order that Teruyama/glasses guy to do it. So while copying, he may have screwed up some of the files (I mean, it sometimes happens to me when I burn dvds)

And, maybe you're trying to make Yuri appear like a saint. . No, we haven't saw what they did completely, we only saw them browse through Guard skills, and copy bar. And knowing Yuri's personality, why WOULDN'T she modify/sabotage it?