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Death Roh makes the cut? Fantastic. If he has a big year, the sky's the limit. I suspect as one of the surest commodities on the line, Mattison will design things to make sure Roh gets a lot of good opportunities.

I'll say this though- any first round list without Dilithium is suspect.

At this point, I'd say Denard's status could literally be anywhere. I understand the excitement people got when Mel Kiper called him the #1 athlete, and NFL teams like that kind of explosiveness and playmaking ability, but we're not going to have any idea of where Denard's going to land until he goes through offseason workouts and attempts to prove to NFL teams that he can play WR/RB.

Things he's currently missing? Ideal size and a high completion percentage. Obviously, one of those is what it is. You're suggesting that if Denard Robinson has a year in which he shows marked improvement in making all the throws and ratchets his completion percentage about 65%, there is no way he gets drafted at QB?

In his defense, the completion percentage issue speaks to Denard's accuracy issues, touch issues, and decision-making. I can see decision-making improving much and even his accuracy and touch improving a bit, but he has a lot of flaws. Griffin was a pretty elite passer and I don't know how good of a passer he was before his senior year, but that is a substantial leap for Denard. More likely he will be drafted as an athlete that they can use in wildcat formations with the ability to pass (although ironically his passing on the move tends to be his worst). Could return kicks, play in the slot, and play in the backfield as RB or trick play. If he does well in prep for the draft, I find it tough to believe some team without a player available at a position of need would not take his interesting skill set in the 2nd maybe even the late 1st round.

To be fair, RG3 had 72.4% completion rate with 37 TD and 6 INT. If Denard can put up a stat like that, he will be drafted in the 1st round.

If he can complete 65% next year, he has a chance to get drafted as a QB. But RG3 completed for 65% and 67% in his soph and junior year. The chances of Denard getting to 65% completion rate is going to be pretty damn tough. He be doing fine just going over 60%.

Denard completed 62% of his passes as a true sophomore and threw picks at a much lower clip than he did this past season. The idea that he isn't that accurate is completely based on the fact that he had to learn a completely different passing offense (as did everyone around him) in the middle of his college career.

His accuracy numbers are going to be drastically improved next year when he has a much firmer grasp of the offense. And he's going to run for 1,000+ yards as easy as falling off a log.

First of all, 62% is a good but not great percentage. Secondly, many of his completions (and I've said this before) were inaccurate completions. He had guys leaping and diving and catching the ball off their shoestrings...and that was just on bubble screens, which is a pretty damn easy throw.

Denard Robinson is inaccurate. It's been a problem for his entire football career, from high school to college and all the way throughout college so far. If he becomes accurate in the next year, great. But there are a lot of people out there who think guys are either accurate or they're not. You can't take an inaccurate quarterback and turn him into Kellen Moore, and you can't take Kellen Moore and turn him into Denard Robinson. There are so many things that go into accuracy (arm strength, anticipation, mechanics, etc.) that it's virtually impossible to fix all of those things and get them all on the same wavelength.

Denard can play quarterback in the NFL, but that's only if a team's looking for a guy who can throw the ball into the dirt and/or to the guys in different colored jerseys.

Vince Young had completed less than 60% of his passes and had thrown as many picks as TDs going into his final year at Texas. His mechanics and natural accuracy are a lot worse than Denard's, yet he upped his completion percentage to 65% in his fourth year on campus, had a great season and was the #3 pick in the draft. Kellen Moore, for all his perceived accuracy, didn't get drafted at all.

Granted, Denard doesn't have Young's height, but he is almost certainly going to have the same kind of season next year now that he knows the offense (Young didn't have to go through a transition of this kind). If Denard completes 65% of his passes (a slight improvement from his true sophomore season) throws 5 more TDs and 5 fewer picks, he's going to get drafted as a QB and get a shot. He's also going to graduate as far and away the most productive offensive player in the history of Michigan football. Which is nice.

Predicting any college QB will be successful in the NFL is a crapshoot. And Denard isn't a can't miss prospect. Just pointing out that the prevailing sentiment that he will only be drafted as a WR/RB, despite never playing at either of those positions, is not consistent with the draft's history or Denard's statistical ceiling (which I think is closer to 2010 than 2011 due to familiarity with the offense).

Denard almost certainly won't have as good of a pro career at the position, but I'd wager a fair amount that he gets drafted higher than Tom Brady did, and by a team that will let him play/compete at QB.

I'm sure he'll get picked higher, but Brady and Robinson are irrelevant to each other. Some team might give him a fleeting chance to play quarterback, but we all know that a team who picks him is also going to have designs on using him as a slot receiver, kick returner, etc. He's more likely to be a Josh Cribbs/Woody Dantzler type than Michael Vick.

It's not just completion percentage. Denard just doesn't have the arm and down field accuracy. Even if his completion percentage goes up, it's not going to be because he is completing a lot of deep outs to the opposite hash mark. He doesn't have an NFL arm -

And as far as comparing Denard to RGIII, there is no point. RGIII always had prototypical size/arm strength. Denard doesn't. Let's be realistic.

RG III had two solid years at QB, and this was after tearing his ACL early in his sophmore year (which looked promising as well). No one paying attention to him around here =/= him not being productive.

Griffin was a good quarterback pretty much every year. In his freshman season, his completion percentage was fairly low, but he threw 15 touchdowns and only 3 picks. I think he's a superior quarterback in many ways, although maybe not as dynamic a runner.

This Oracle is known for his ambiguous puzzles and riddles. In 1998 he predicted there would be a great QB in the draft and the other would fall. Shortsightedly, the kingdom asking failed to intrepret correctly; it was their choice who would fall.

As the Oracle said, Know Thyself. Knowing thyself means I also know my brother. It is the common bond we share for appreciation of lessons past. I appreciate the shout-out from a fellow classics enthusiast. We are brothers in that, our appreciation for Michigan football, and I am sure much else.

This is just a shot in the dark with no facts whatsoever, but it may have to do with their rank relative to others at the position, or a particular need for DE’s. It is perfectly consistent to say that Martin is the better player, but that Roh may go earlier in the draft.

If I remember correctly, RR wouldn't offer Hankins because he was not in shape enough for his liking? Man...Another blunder, goes to osu & starts as a true frosh...Can't let kids leave Detroit, especially when they're good (also see tom gholston - who might be a prick, but I would take him on UM in a heartbeat).

He just didn't offer him early (though the staff did actively recruit him and remain in fairly constant contact with him). Neither did OSU. The kid came here on an official visit, went to OSU a week later, then chose OSU. We just scored 40 on that defense Hankins anchors and beat OSU for the first time in nearly a decade. It isn't because they were kicking our ass on the recruiting trail, but because we got guys like Ryan, Fitz, and Omameh who they actually overlooked/ignored. Hankins is a guy who chose a school that he appears to be comfortable at and that had dominated us and the rest of the Big Ten for the better part of a decade. That is the reality of recruiting, not some terrible blunder.

He also probably would not have started here ahead of Martin and/or RVB.

#1 receiver? Yes, he runs terrific routes, has a huge reach, never losses the ball, and catches everything. If he said that then you need to never ever ever ever listen to him again. What an idiot! People need to let this kid play and chill out. Just eat D Rob! Go blue!

the NFL draft is about projecting hoe they will do in the NFL based on body size and shape, measureables, etc. And how they did in college. Roh may be a better fit height and arm length wise or something than RVB.

That said, it is my impression that RVB was the brains of the defensive front last year, and Carolina has a guy who is slightly undersized but very smart and will therefore play well and help his team mates be in better positions to play well. (A Kovacs equivalent a the League level as it were.)

As much as it pains me to say it. The kid has the frame and physical tools that NFL scouts drool over, and he certainly has the proverbial "mean streak" so coveted among offensive lineman. If he keeps putting on good weight and improving his technique this year and stays healthy, he could be a top 15 pick, and it would be hard for him to turn down that opportunity, especially since he'll already have spent 4 years in school.

What really worries me: What if Fitz has a gangbusters year and decides to enter the draft too?