Yes, looks matter...yes status matter and yes PUA are deluded and creepy individuals but this site isn't better.

It's full of depressed weirdos completely detached from reality...and if that's not enough they try their best to discourage and bring down every guy with a view a bit more realistic.

It's full of bullshit and exaggeration ...like 6.2/6.4ft as the minimum height requirement to date girls, or stupid nonsense like life end at 18yo.

If what it's written here is true only 1% of males should be in a relationship...some even think that girls are disgusted by guys that don't look like david gandy and won't consider them even as friends....are you for real??? have you ever set foot outside your house?

LOL at the excuse of be red-pilled to exaggerate everything.

The reality is different....looks matter but you don't have to look like a male model to date cute girls otherwise only 1% of men have a gf. Status and social circle is really what set a guy apart (assuming he has a decent look).

This site looks the opposite or RSD....both are creepy because both are extreme....

relationships are ALWAYS carried by M+S.
thats why its called LMS...because looks dont stand alone in relationships.
if women only cared about looks in a relationship, then only 1% of men would be in a relationship.

Almost nobody bang hot girls (8+) outside relationships so it's pointless to even talk about it. The only guys that can do it are celebrities like actors, athletes, showmen and the like....girls are very concerned about their reputations so if they like a guy they try to get engaged with him. Only exceptions are celebrities because they're the only ones that can enhance their reputations instead of diminish it.

The typical girls that sleep around are generally in the 5's and 6's range....sometimes 7's....and they do it only with men way above their level otherwise risks outweigh the benefits.

My Tinder experiments don't lie....I used 10/10 male models and slayers and 8's+ girls were interested only in hanging out and relationships...they were straightforward in telling me they weren't interested in casual sex and when I was persisted they stopped replied and blocked me.
Only girls interested in casual sex were in the range of 1's to 7's.

It's stupid to keep talking about casual sex with hot girls...it won't happen...better to looksmax becoming solid 7's and then build a social circle. Then you can enter in a relationship with a 8's if you're lucky.

(07-12-2015, 08:44 PM)Looks_Matter Wrote: Almost nobody bang hot girls (8+) outside relationships so it's pointless to even talk about it. The only guys that can do it are celebrities like actors, athletes, showmen and the like....girls are very concerned about their reputations so if they like a guy they try to get engaged with him. Only exceptions are celebrities because they're the only ones that can enhance their reputations instead of diminish it.

The typical girls that sleep around are generally in the 5's and 6's range....sometimes 7's....and they do it only with men way above their level otherwise risks outweigh the benefits.

My Tinder experiments don't lie....I used 10/10 male models and slayers and 8's+ girls were interested only in hanging out and relationships...they were straightforward in telling me they weren't interested in casual sex and when I was persisted they stopped replied and blocked me.
Only girls interested in casual sex were in the range of 1's to 7's.

It's stupid to keep talking about casual sex with hot girls...it won't happen...better to looksmax becoming solid 7's and then build a social circle. Then you can enter in a relationship with a 8's if you're lucky.

lol you are so naive. hot girls dont sleep around. sure buddy boyo. they are all virgins and wait for that chosen one to marry them.

(07-12-2015, 08:44 PM)Looks_Matter Wrote: Almost nobody bang hot girls (8+) outside relationships so it's pointless to even talk about it. The only guys that can do it are celebrities like actors, athletes, showmen and the like....girls are very concerned about their reputations so if they like a guy they try to get engaged with him. Only exceptions are celebrities because they're the only ones that can enhance their reputations instead of diminish it.

The typical girls that sleep around are generally in the 5's and 6's range....sometimes 7's....and they do it only with men way above their level otherwise risks outweigh the benefits.

My Tinder experiments don't lie....I used 10/10 male models and slayers and 8's+ girls were interested only in hanging out and relationships...they were straightforward in telling me they weren't interested in casual sex and when I was persisted they stopped replied and blocked me.
Only girls interested in casual sex were in the range of 1's to 7's.

It's stupid to keep talking about casual sex with hot girls...it won't happen...better to looksmax becoming solid 7's and then build a social circle. Then you can enter in a relationship with a 8's if you're lucky.

lol you are so naive. hot girls dont sleep around. sure buddy boyo. they are all virgins and wait for that chosen one to marry them.

8's+ girls are always in a relationship and when they aren't they bang only actors, athletes and other people with insane status.
you've probably never seen a model in your life

(07-12-2015, 08:44 PM)Looks_Matter Wrote: Almost nobody bang hot girls (8+) outside relationships so it's pointless to even talk about it. The only guys that can do it are celebrities like actors, athletes, showmen and the like....girls are very concerned about their reputations so if they like a guy they try to get engaged with him. Only exceptions are celebrities because they're the only ones that can enhance their reputations instead of diminish it.

The typical girls that sleep around are generally in the 5's and 6's range....sometimes 7's....and they do it only with men way above their level otherwise risks outweigh the benefits.

My Tinder experiments don't lie....I used 10/10 male models and slayers and 8's+ girls were interested only in hanging out and relationships...they were straightforward in telling me they weren't interested in casual sex and when I was persisted they stopped replied and blocked me.
Only girls interested in casual sex were in the range of 1's to 7's.

It's stupid to keep talking about casual sex with hot girls...it won't happen...better to looksmax becoming solid 7's and then build a social circle. Then you can enter in a relationship with a 8's if you're lucky.

lol you are so naive. hot girls dont sleep around. sure buddy boyo. they are all virgins and wait for that chosen one to marry them.

8's+ girls are always in a relationship and when they aren't they bang only actors, athletes and other people with insane status.
you've probably never seen a model in your life

of course they only fuck with high LMS guys...that contradicts with nothing ive said you low iq specimen

(07-12-2015, 08:47 PM)The German Dream Wrote: lol you are so naive. hot girls dont sleep around. sure buddy boyo. they are all virgins and wait for that chosen one to marry them.

8's+ girls are always in a relationship and when they aren't they bang only actors, athletes and other people with insane status.
you've probably never seen a model in your life

of course they only fuck with high LMS guys...that contradicts with nothing ive said you low iq specimen

LOL at this aspie
8+ girls don't sleep around. You are like the creepy weirdo I was talking before...you have no clue how things work in real life.
Your signature after all tell everything about you. Nick bateman as the minimum requirement to get laid. You must be an idiot.

Get a fake tinder with a 10/10 model and see how many of them are open for casual sex you deluded aspie.

(07-12-2015, 08:53 PM)Looks_Matter Wrote: 8's+ girls are always in a relationship and when they aren't they bang only actors, athletes and other people with insane status.
you've probably never seen a model in your life

of course they only fuck with high LMS guys...that contradicts with nothing ive said you low iq specimen

LOL at this aspie
8+ girls don't sleep around. You are like the creepy weirdo I was talking before...you have no clue how things work in real life.
Your signature after all tell everything about you. Nick bateman as the minimum requirement to get laid. You must be an idiot.

Get a fake tinder with a 10/10 model and see how many of them are open for casual sex you deluded aspie.

you are even too stupid to run a fake MM tinder game you low iq faggot.
they even smell your shitty subhuman genetics through the internet
whatever...keep believing hot girls dont fuck around with masculine male models 24/7 if that cope makes you happier...oh then again, why dont you leave this site and get laid every day? after all its very easy...you just have to be confident and outgoing right? gtfo you mentally handicapped shithead

(07-12-2015, 09:16 PM)The German Dream Wrote: of course they only fuck with high LMS guys...that contradicts with nothing ive said you low iq specimen

LOL at this aspie
8+ girls don't sleep around. You are like the creepy weirdo I was talking before...you have no clue how things work in real life.
Your signature after all tell everything about you. Nick bateman as the minimum requirement to get laid. You must be an idiot.

Get a fake tinder with a 10/10 model and see how many of them are open for casual sex you deluded aspie.

you are even too stupid to run a fake MM tinder game you low iq faggot.
they even smell your shitty subhuman genetics through the internet
whatever...keep believing hot girls dont fuck around with masculine male models 24/7 if that cope makes you happier...oh then again, why dont you leave this site and get laid every day? after all its very easy...you just have to be confident and outgoing right? gtfo you mentally handicapped shithead

The difference between me and you is that after my double jaw surgery I'll be able to get laid because I don't have any other major flaw. Italian genetics, NW0, clear skin, 6ft tall, ripped body and most of all I have friends in real life unlike you. I'm here just waiting for my surgery (next month)...you'll be here for life...that's why you're so a troll and an exaggerated autistic...you've already lost hope...your genes already insult you so I'm not going to join

If you're that much better why don't you run the experiments my playboy under a computer?
I have models even in my apartment because I live in the city with the most concentration of models in the fucking world. Fashion capital tell you anything you aspie? They sleep around in your dreams.

(07-12-2015, 09:24 PM)Looks_Matter Wrote: LOL at this aspie
8+ girls don't sleep around. You are like the creepy weirdo I was talking before...you have no clue how things work in real life.
Your signature after all tell everything about you. Nick bateman as the minimum requirement to get laid. You must be an idiot.

Get a fake tinder with a 10/10 model and see how many of them are open for casual sex you deluded aspie.

you are even too stupid to run a fake MM tinder game you low iq faggot.
they even smell your shitty subhuman genetics through the internet
whatever...keep believing hot girls dont fuck around with masculine male models 24/7 if that cope makes you happier...oh then again, why dont you leave this site and get laid every day? after all its very easy...you just have to be confident and outgoing right? gtfo you mentally handicapped shithead

The difference between me and you is that after my double jaw surgery I'll be able to get laid because I don't have any other major flaw. Italian genetics, NW0, clear skin, 6ft tall, ripped body and most of all I have friends in real life unlike you. I'm here just waiting for my surgery (next month)...you'll be here for life...that's why you're so a troll and an exaggerated autistic...you've already lost hope...your genes already insult you so I'm not going to join

If you're that much better why don't you run the experiments my playboy outside a computer?
I have models even in my apartment because I live in the city with the most concentration of models in the fucking world. Fashion capital tell you anything you aspie? They sleep around in your dreams.

you delusional copecel.
there are hundreds of male model experiments. they FUCK already after 2min of conversation...but i guess you are just delusional as fuck because they dont fuck with YOU...because you are low LMS subhuman.
you need to be high LMS to fuck those women...and there are more than enough high LMS men in every city. just fucking [email protected] you for believing they live like nuns because you are not in the high LMS social circles where you actually see whats going on

now shut the fuck up and just live with your cope. hot women dont get laid because they are sweet little innocent angels. and getting laid is not hard because women dont care about looks and high overall LMS. its okay. you are right. i admit defeat. you have beaten me with your coping tactics.

There is not even a tinder experiment where 8+ girls (models) where DTF. They're in your dreams. If it's that easy I already told you...create a fake tinder and show us how female models sleep around.
The only girls that agreed to fuck were 5's, 6's and 7's.

do you even know what sleep around mean? It means to bounce from a guy to another every week....I can't even believe you're serious...almost all the 8's+ girls I know are either engaged or with a long term fuck buddy (an athlete). They sleep around in your dreams and only there.

I strongly believe that the majority of guys of this site live in social isolation. There is no other explanation. It's not a fact of being virgin or having some aesthetic problems. I'm a semi-virgin too (I've never been with a non-escort girl) and I have a problem with my jaws that held me back my entire life and prevented me from succeeding with girls.

But the exaggeration about how good looking someone should me, how life end at 18 (or in the 20's) and how girls are mean aren't normal. And for sure they aren't realistic. You guys aren't red-pilled....you're depressed and enraged with the outside world as fuck. You created an exaggerated fake reality to justify your failures and you want other guys to believe it so they'll never get better and they'll remain at your same level.
And yeah, you don't say these bullshit to troll or joking...you're fucking serious about it. Most of you can't get over the fact that you miss high school time or college time.

My view is way different than yours. I believe that looks matter but not as much as you want others to believe, status instead is more important than you want others to believe. Very few guys have the looks this site require to get laid, whereas in real life most men get laid (through casual sex or relationships) with cute girls, not with fat girls like you want others to believe. Not all world is like the US, it's fucking rare to see an overweight girl here.

This forum is dangerous and toxic for sane people that have fixable problems. If you aren't careful you'll get sucked into this fake reality of stupid exaggerations and you'll never be able to get out or think realistically again.

You guys wonder why nobody want to hang out with you or befriend you...but do you listen to yourself? you're depressing as fuck and nobody want to hang out with people that brings others down (and you can't fake to be another person because the self will always coming through). Everybody want happy people around with an interest in social activities and with an optimistic outlook in life. I'm the first one that wouldn't want to hang out with the vast majority of you (save a few exceptions). Your attitude toward life is fucking wrong and toxic.

I have friends outside of this site and I can't wait to undergo double jaw surgery and live a normal life, that's why I'm not as enraged or hopeless as many of you.
I don't know about you....if you have fixable problems (such as fixable with a surgery or lifestyle related) I think this site won't do any good. You'll just get depressed. Fix your problems and then try to associate with normal people again.
But even if you have unfixable problems (like height, race, deformities) you have no right to intoxicate a forum and bring people down. It's fucking pathetic.

I've always thought that forums like RSD were the worst because they are delusional and give false hope to people that lack in the looks or status department. They are extremist in what they preach because they're scammers. But you guys are extremist in the other direction and since the other direction is self destruction you incredibly managed to be even worse than them. It wasn't easy at all.

This is my last message here, as I said I have a different vision than yours and I don't hate girls or society just because they applied the adaptions of evolution they've been endowed with.
I hoped this forum had a realistic view of the world and wanted to help and sustain other members. Instead I found the opposite. I'm out of this toxic world. I won't even check the replies of this message because I already know they'll be toxic and enraged just like you are. Have a good life.

07-13-2015, 02:22 AM (This post was last modified: 07-13-2015, 02:26 AM by The German Dream.)

okay im going to say one last thing:

right here we have a self-proclaimed virgin (fucking escorts for cash dont count buddy) who has "no other major flaw" besides his jaw malposition, has "Italian genetics, NW0, clear skin, ripped body" is "6ft tall" and has "friends in real life" who is trying to tell me that the importance of looks is hugely overrated and that everybody can get laid with attractive girls.

i repeat:this is a guy who has apparently everything going right for him:-italian genetics of the gods-perfect nw0 hairline-perfect meditaeren tan-ripped adonis body-6ft height (not a manlet)-amazing social circle in apparently the "fashion capital of the world"

and he has only ONE unfortunate flaw in his face which has somehow to do with his jaw...AND THIS IS ENOUGH TO MAKE HIM INCEL FOR DECADES.ONE FLAW IN THE FACE = GAME OVER. YOU WILL NOT GET LAID NO MATTER HOW AMAZING YOUR OTHER FEATURES ARE.

and then this guy has the nerves to say that looks are not as important as we make them out to be and that every guy can get laid with attractive girls, and that girls standards are not as high as we say and that we are exaggerating everything, and that the 80:20 rule isnt true, and that attractive women dont get laid all the time off tinder with masculine male model slayers and dont let incels never even get near them etc etc...

can you fucking believe the coping with this guy? i mean if there is one guy in this world who must know how fucking important looks are, and that you need to be near perfect to be considered as sexual partner with young white non-whaleish women, and that even the slightest facial flaw will put you out of competition instantly, then it must be this guy....but no...he rather decides to live in his bluepill bubble where women are innocent angels who are staying virgin until they find a guy who has a really great personality

8+/10s have the luxury of requiring commitment and usually wont settle for just a ONS unless its w/ a movie star. they get propositioned daily and can get sex with top tier guys at the click of a button usually. sub 8 girls dont have this power and will be much more likely to sleep around in hopes of locking down a guy a couple points above her league. that is what op is trying to say i thin

(07-12-2015, 08:47 PM)The German Dream Wrote:

(07-12-2015, 08:44 PM)Looks_Matter Wrote: Almost nobody bang hot girls (8+) outside relationships so it's pointless to even talk about it. The only guys that can do it are celebrities like actors, athletes, showmen and the like....girls are very concerned about their reputations so if they like a guy they try to get engaged with him. Only exceptions are celebrities because they're the only ones that can enhance their reputations instead of diminish it.

The typical girls that sleep around are generally in the 5's and 6's range....sometimes 7's....and they do it only with men way above their level otherwise risks outweigh the benefits.

My Tinder experiments don't lie....I used 10/10 male models and slayers and 8's+ girls were interested only in hanging out and relationships...they were straightforward in telling me they weren't interested in casual sex and when I was persisted they stopped replied and blocked me.
Only girls interested in casual sex were in the range of 1's to 7's.

It's stupid to keep talking about casual sex with hot girls...it won't happen...better to looksmax becoming solid 7's and then build a social circle. Then you can enter in a relationship with a 8's if you're lucky.

lol you are so naive. hot girls dont sleep around. sure buddy boyo. they are all virgins and wait for that chosen one to marry them.

8+/10s have the luxury of requiring commitment and usually dont want to settle for random ONS unless its w/ a movie star. they get propositioned daily and can get sex with top tier guys at the click of a button usually. casual sex for them looses value and theyre after commitment w/top tier guy. sub 8 girls dont have that power or luxury and will be much more likely to sleep around in hopes of locking down a guy a couple points above her league.