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Chrisuknottm wrote:Im not saying we won anything with Evans because obviously he left but does anyone think we would not have gone up under him either last season or this just finished as opposed to the failure of DF?

I cringed at everything about the guy and was ashamed at some of his antics and inter action with genuine minded fans but whether you hate him of not he has achieved success.

No, we were crap in his last few games and he knew it... He jumped ship after the coventry game because we weren't going to go up and it would of labelled him a failure

Or (more practically) he left because Peterborough offered him another job?

Chrisuknottm wrote:Im not saying we won anything with Evans because obviously he left but does anyone think we would not have gone up under him either last season or this just finished as opposed to the failure of DF?

I cringed at everything about the guy and was ashamed at some of his antics and inter action with genuine minded fans but whether you hate him of not he has achieved success.

No, we were crap in his last few games and he knew it... He jumped ship after the coventry game because we weren't going to go up and it would of labelled him a failure

Evan's interview the guy is an absolute tool n this is from me who was over the moon when we captured his signature have you heard such vile bile that comes out of his mouth..... Spouting off he had 3 or 4 offers before deciding to take the Gills job (how unlucky are they) I came here with my Peterborough's n Rotherham side n their fans watched the type of football I'm going to bring on the front foot mixing it up.....

You really couldn't make it up with this guy Number 1 banana.

I hope the Stags get to play them in a cup game next season n we shove the score right up the fat lards arse...

A Stag for life not just through good times.... 4 4 2 living the dream.....

StagsFan83 wrote:To answer the above, loathe him as we do, I have no doubt we would be a league one club now if he had stayed.

I do, we were not top 3 when he left and were about to embark on a very tough run of games. The blokes just a fraud, can't believe we still discuss his time here as if it was good, it wasn't. He'll fail at the Gills.

How very dare you call anyone a fraud. You'll upset Bella Lugosi.

Calling someone a fraud when they are one is acceptable. Evans is a fraud. PS. Bella Lugosi’s dead.

I understand the hate for Evans, leaving after being on course for promotion, but just the same as players it's about ambition Flitcrofft the nice guy but should we not hate him more for messing up 2 consecutive season's promotion? And maybe long term loosing our best players

Not a question of being a fan of Evans, just one of not rewriting history to suit an argument.

Evans may have been obnoxious & Flitcroft a nice guy, but at the end of the day both squandered a large chunk of JRs noneyand both ulitmateley achieved nothing.

Flitcroft a nice guy Some truly gullible folk on here.

Why don't you just spill the beans ? All you do is post things without substance.

Because the bean tin is empty, that's why

Both blew huge sums of money, and but for 1 goal against MK it could have been mission achieved for DF, so in my book he got far closer. I'd also argue perhaps 20% of DF's budget was hamstrung with unwanted players & long term injuries, where SE had far fewer worries (in fact i can't really remember many key players missing long term for SE apart from Mirfs? )

Maybe i'm being overly generous to DF, but i think he did 'more with less'

Evans on Peterborough departure: “We lost our job when we were in the play-offs. The chairman was right - the home form was pretty poor. I’m still speaking to those players at the club.”

Evans on unifying fans: “Every club we’ve been to, there’s been a certain element of supporters that didn’t want us. The maximum we can do is give everything.

Evans on resources: “I’ve got no doubt there will be more investment in the team until we’re successful. We’ve been told we’ll be working on the same budget as last season.”

Raynor on performances at Priestfield: “It’s about intensity. It’s about teams coming to Priestfield and being worried about how we play and the hostile atmosphere. We do play a high pressing game - we’ll press from the front.” (True)

Evans on potentially replacing Eaves: “You sign certain players to score you goals. We’ve got a meeting with one player who is a goalscorer. We’ve got three or four strikers we want to join Hanlan and one of them is playing at an international level in Toulon.” (Yoann Arquinn, Jimmy Spencer, Lee Angol and Omari Sterling-James are all available.)

Raynor on giving youth players a chance: “They’ll all get opportunities. Mark Patterson is very excited about what’s coming through. Let’s hope they can push their way into the squad.” (Steve Evans and Paul Raynor did not play one youth team player at the Stags).

Evans on improving the squad: “Midfield is a key area. We felt sorry for Max [Ehmer] and Connor [Ogilvie] because teams could get at them willy nilly. We want a first team of around 20 or 21 players. I know enough managers to help us top it up.” (Steve Evans really means he normally signs at least 23 players per season including 10 midfield players).

Evans on contracted players: “I don’t think there’s any secret that the midfield needs improving. We’ve had three players in and told them that they don’t fit into our plans. If they decide to come back and fight, that’s their decision.” (Steve Evans - I will sign 23 players and then decide that most of the players signed by the previous manager are a lot better than my signings.)

It would have been nice to have had a Fans Forum Q&A with Steve Evans and Paul Raynor when he was at Field Mill. I think he only turned up for a corporate event.

The comments regarding working hard on the training ground are interesting bearing in mind that DF said that Steve Evans' players were not fit enough when he arrived and the feedback from the players last season that Steve Evans's training sessions were shorter than DF's sessions (Listen to the Bobby Olejnik podcast on D3D4).