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If you thought low-flow toilets were bad, wait ’til you use “Islamic toilets.” Forget Islamic foot baths and burqas/niqabs. This is where it’s at.

It’s not just that Islam is filled with hate and intolerance that’s objectionable. It’s also extremely annoying and backwards that a strong and growing group of Muslims rebel against all modern technology, no matter how basic or necessary for standard Western sanitary conditions.

Yes, Al-Qaeda, HAMAS, Hezbollah, etc. have all embraced TV, the Internet, cell phones, and other modern technology for their terrorist recruitment and operations, but as we all know, many Islamic views and traditions–such as treatment of women and legal fictions to create shariah loans–are backward and so 13th Century. Even Bin Laden family members note that the Al-Qaeda leader himself, Osama Bin Laden, partied like it’s 599, with his absolute disdain and hatred for modern technology, dress, and other mores of modernity.

All in the name of cultural sensitivity. From next week, shoppers in Rochdale who push open the cubicle door expecting the reassuring sight of a modern, clean lavatory could instead be faced with little more than a hole in the ground.

Bosses of the Greater Manchester town’s Exchange mall have installed two as part of an upgrade costing several thousand pounds after attending a cultural awareness course run by a local Muslim community activist.

A familiar sight in parts of the Middle East, and still sometimes seen in France and Italy, the toilets require users to squat above them, rather than sitting.

With one in ten of Rochdale’s population of Pakistani or Bangladeshi origin, centre managers say they have been told some members of the local Asian community prefer them for cultural reasons.

Yeah, “reasons” of backwards culture.

The Exchange shopping centre is in the process of refurbishing its ladies’ and gents’ toilets, and the changes were made after managers went on a cultural training course.

It was hosted by Ghulam Rasul Shahzad, a retired Rochdale Council training officer who runs courses for the groups including the police on cultural understanding and community cohesion.

Hey, no surprise he has the same last name as the Times Square bomber, Faisal Shahzad. From attempted Times Square terrorism to successful toilet terrorism, the Asian Muslims in the West have it, um, covered because we’re so meek and politically incorrect that we won’t ever object and let the you-know-what hit the fan over this. Instead, it has to hit the Nile Pan.

A former Labour council candidate, Mr Shahzad received the OBE from the Queen last month for his services to the community and social housing.

No surprise about this either. As we’ve long known, Queen Elizabeth and her son, Prince Charles are so far up the rears of the Muslim world, they are, themselves, Turkish Toilets. But do you think she or sonny boy would ever lower themselves (literally) to use Muslim squat toilets?

He was last year given a Community Crimefighter Award by the then Prime Minister, Mr Brown.

Mr Shahzad took shopping centre manager Lorenzo O’Reilly and his team on a tour around Rochdale’s Central Mosque, including a look at its toilets, as part of the course.

‘The management at the centre were very committed to improving the service they offered to the community and were very responsive,’ he said.

‘We always work together to understand each other from both sides and find a balance.

Uh-huh. This is now “balance” with Islam in the Western world–replacing toilets with holes in the ground.

A spokeswoman for the centre said: ‘We regularly receive cultural awareness training from Ghulam and when we were planning the toilets this was something that cropped up.’

As a result, when the facilities reopen next Monday, both the ladies’ and gents’ will have a cubicle containing a squat toilet.

Turkish or squat toilets are favoured over flush toilets in many parts of Asia as they don’t require expensive modern plumbing systems.

Proponents of what some campaigners call the natural posture toilet claim there are health benefits to squatting, rather than sitting.

Canterbury Prison recently installed one for foreign inmates as part of a £17,000 upgrade.

But they are regarded as unhygienic and backward in many parts of the world – infamously, a controversial sculpture briefly displayed at EU offices in Brussels last year lampooning member states depicted Bulgaria as a squat toilet.

Mike Bone, of the British Toilet Association, warned the washing facilities associated with squat toilets could pose a hygiene hazard.

Reader Rob writes:

Squat toilet… ugh!! Why has the most advanced civilization on that side of Atlantic pond decided to degrade itself to these backward cultural ways?

If you don’t think this will ultimately come to the U.S., think again. We are letting in many Asian Muslim immigrants. And when they reach the critical mass they’ve reached in Britain, these backwards waste removal devices will hit our shopping malls and prisons, too. And everywhere else.

Just hope the person in the neighboring stall has good aim. And to be safe, best not to wear sandals. Hey, if Mohammed relieved himself this way, it must be good enough for the rest of us. Right?

[Fleiter – I used these many times while living in Japan. They take some getting used to. They were always nasty, and it was hard to steady yourself over them.]

Then you are a better person than I am. I spent three months in South Korea (1989 – 1990) and when I was in some remote areas I “held it in” until I could get back to my hotel room. There was no way I was using that thing.

This is crazy! Why would anyone want to revert back to such a primitive life? If the muslims don’t want to assimilate in our culture, they need to leave our countries. Great Britain and other european countries are making costly mistakes by placating muslims. The muslims are dangerous to all who won’t conform to their ways.

I too have had the “pleasure” to use them *vomit*. They are still in Romania and Serbia. I mean honestly, the nerve of a “cultural awareness” person to say this is “community cohesion.” I really do feel like vomiting.

It immediately occurs to me that there cannot possibly be any version of this that would accommodate wheelchair users. Now I wonder how paraplegics throughout the Muslim world deal with these sorts of facilities.

It’s a tragicomic situation how these people use modern technology for the specific purpose of some day being able to eliminate the modern technology they are using. Sort of like when the Bush administration insisted that the people of Gaza hold a democratic election. When they did, they voted Hamas into power…In other words “We have decided to vote for no longer having the right to vote.” Or “We have freely elected to live under a totalitarian theocracy.”

To put it bluntly, Islam is essentially nothing but a continuous Monty Python routine that would be funny if only the rest of the world had the ability to occasionally just hit the off button or change the channel.

Just to give you an idea of how disgusting the Islamofacists are, when it comes to all other areas of life except killing and maiming they want to move backwards. However, as Debbie points out that they want the best modern technology has to offer when it comes to killing and maiming.

Hey there! Reminds me of my travels in 1968. I wonder if: The Sears Catalog is still available in each stall…Is there a 3rd faucet, i.e. a continuously running cold water line in the sink for one’s fingers to be used as a “first rinse” option…Are there still little old men outside the stalls who sell T-P by the Square…Where are the “slightly elevated foot pads” that keep your shoes dry when the flush starts and water overflows…Where are the signs to warn users that these ARE NOT FOOT BATHS like U of M…and, finally, where are the round “air fresheners” so commonly used in or near Western commodes? I hope no one has a slip ‘n fall experience!

I had to use one on a ferry to Morocco frmo Spain once. I was gagging it was so foul and vile. What’s next? The Tangier method where they sell old magazines and we wipe with the left hand and eat with the right? Depraved subhumanoids might like this stuff but…

I have traveled all over Asia, and the most objectionable thing in my travels was the, you guessed it, the squat toilet.

You do not generally find squat toilets in private homes or in hotels. In fact, you never find them in hotels, and anyone with some net worth has a Western Style toilet, usually made in Japan.

So here is my advice to everyone. As a protest, if you ever have the misfortune of traveling through England, and come across one of these toilets, just urinate or defecate on the floor. Send the old queen (Elizabeth, not Charles) a message.

Do not disrepect the bathrooms of Asia. They have these toilets as a matter of custom, not as a way to kiss the filthy derrieres of a syphilitic Muslim.

I had no idea the Left had multicultural sensitivity on how people do their bathroom business. I’m too classy to use words that would have Debbie ban me from here.

Still, if we need to accommodate them, what does it say of our insistence others abide by our advanced Western hygiene standards?

Not much. Western civilization is being you know what down a literal hole in the ground that now serves as a means of relieving oneself. Of progress, modernity, and plain old good taste. All to be politically correct in pandering to an Islam still stuck in a 7th Century bathroom mode of conduct.

if they don’t wish to avail themselves of the convenience and hygienic appeal of modern plumbing they should stop using refrigerators and air conditioning too. i presume forks, spoons,and knives are also unislamic.

I really sorry for you….you always try to blacken the name of Islam..you really poor people ..have knowledge of nothing but HATE..AND.. BOTHERING MUSLIMS…go back to the History ..Andalusia When they wanted to distinguish the houses of Muslims from Jews they just looked for a toilet ..this bcz Jews did not have any toilets in their houses!!!! About the Squat Toilet its a tradition from old days (NOT ISLAMIC)..try to be honest as we(Muslims) and Clean as(Muslims)…really I hope You All study Islam From Its Pure Sources To Recognize then that you were knowing nothing about ISLAM…May Allah Guide you to the Truth..

A Hindu friend of mine in India has two bathrooms in his house. One has a squat toilet and the other a western toilet. Why both? Because his mother has bad knees and can’t squat. I can think of any number of other reasons why a squat toilet is harder to use than a western toilet, e.g. vertigo. Not a place you’d like to lose your balance in!

On the other hand, you don’t have to touch anything but the floor with your feet, and the toilet hasn’t been invented yet which lets you avoid that. Just think of the typical gas station toilet. Do you really want to be sitting on that??

BTW, they’re in no way Islamic toilets. As you and others point out, they’re in use in Japan, France, Romania, and India. I despise radical Islam as much as you do, but let’s despise the things they *really* are stupid about. Like, for example, an observant Muslim cannot pee in the direction of Mecca.

RN: With all due respect, sorry, but you really need to read the article more carefully. These toilets were installed to be “culturally understanding” to Muslims. Not French people, not Hindus, not Japanese. Muslims. DS

Paul, apparently Islam likes certain aspects of our Western culture more than others. They loathe our modern dhimmi lifestyle but are not at all averse to borrowing our own military technology to kill us. When all is said and done, they are uncouth and barbarian in their sensibilities and as they’ve discovered in the UK, you can take the Muslim out of Barbararabia but you can’t take the barbarian out of the Muslim.

Looks just like the outhouses, sans running water, we find in Canada’s provincial/federal parks out in the boonies…Importing it into urban areas? Now that’s disgusting. Europe and its backwardness — led by self-proclaimed “progressives” — can’t be stopped.

The “progressive” Left believes we’re little better than animals and should aspire to be like them. Only animals squat to eliminate their bodily waste. All those centuries of trying to be less beastly and more human – that’s now out of the window!

You’re looking at the “back to Nature” movement in its most literal, raw form. I am sure I don’t have to draw you a picture of what that represents.

One has to ask, yet again, why the f do they move to our countries in the first place? If literally everything is so damned objectionable, why do they aspire to come here? Just STAY. WHERE. YOU. ARE. You add nothing positive to our society anyway.

Its just too bad the Brits didn’t tell them if you don’t like the way we do things here, you’re free to leave our country. When you live here, you will abide by our customs and civilized rules of behavior. Is this the same country that banned the barbaric Hindi practice of burning widows alive? Hard to believe those chaps no longer have a backbone and all in the face of Islam.

Just when you think you’ve seen the extent of multicultural abuses you see even more bending over (literally) to kiss Muslim ass-

UK you are sad- pathetic- to receive an award for such incredible stupidity, is jsut, well as stupid as Odumbo getting a Nobel-

and UK dhim-wits, if you think Islam will reward your bend-overs-you are wrong
they will keep you bending until you drop to your knees on their wall to wall prayer carpet- formerly called streets and avenues, ones you used to drive your car or walk down freely before it became HALAL to live as a NON MUSLIM

Yes they are disgusting, but whats funny is when you see people raised on those toilets trying to use a standard sit down toilet. They will put up the seat and squat on the porcelain over the hole, they wont use the seat.

I did two tours of duty in Korea and each time, when out visiting in the more rural areas like the small farm village that my wife was born in I used the local restroom facilities, basically a hole in the ground. However when rural Koreans move to the big city or even to America they do not want to continue squatting over a hole in the ground. They’re all in favor of Western style plumbing. If the Muslims want to desperately to connect with their culture or whatever why not just stay in your particular 7th century country of choice?

This is a natural position for the islamic faithful and is called the vertical prayer position However – Think of the millions saved worldwide as toilet paper becomes redundant

Sahih Muslim Book 2, Number 0458:
Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) as saying: When anyone wipes himself with pebbles (after answering the call of nature) he must make use of an odd number and when any one of you performs ablution he must snuff in his nose water and then clean it.

If they were use beach pebbles — rising sea levels would be compensated for–what a coup for islam- Volumetric principle discovered by islamic science

I recently had a job as a long-haul truck driver. What disgusted me most was the habit of foreign-born truckers to not flush their soiled toilet paper. They would instead put it in the waste
basket in the stall because that’s what they did in their countries of origin. If the truck stop did not provide a waste basket in the stall, the shit-taker would simply throw his shit smeared toilet paper on the floor in the corner of the stall.

There were several reasons why my career as a long-haul trucker was a short one, and this was one of them.

well well well…now that the religion of peace is into toilet training….and seeing as I am not familiar with these new islamic toilets, please forgive me if i should, answering the call of nature, inadvertently expell my innermost bowel increments ALL OVER these lovely abodes…hopefully that the next practioner is a diaper-headed, vile, violent piece of garbage with his koran in hand…in fact he-she can you some of the lovely verses to wipe their…..

Years ago in the mosque in Acre, Israel, they had both.
Where do you find little old men, still, selling squares of t.p? I don’t know but in Israel you can find little old Russians doing so in any public bathroom. Hey! for a shekel or two, it sure beats the way things were when we first came here, namely; find an alley, any alley. Most of the bathrooms are clean and maintained by same said Russians and you get more than one square. The freakiest experience I had last year was in Independence Park in Jerusalem. They have installed totally automatic rest room kiosks, that double as bomb shelters, btw. You put in your shekel, the door unlocks electronically and after you enter, it locks electronically. The flush is auto, the sink faucet is auto and the hand dryer is auto. You can unlock the door when you are finished but all I could think of was that CSI NY episode where the woman was murdered by drowning in one of those things. (water didn’t cut off and door shorted out)

After the 6 day war in 1967, I volunteered to go to Israel and help out on a Kibbutz. We used flat in the ground toilets. It took some getting used to but I noticed how easy it made bowel movements. I didn’t think much about it until many years back in the States, I saw a you tube video on the anatomically correct way to poop. The product they used in the video was a ‘Lifestep’ put out by a company called Renew life. I ordered two, one for each of our bathrooms, and wouldn’t think now of being without them. They really do make pooping easier. It opens up the recto-anal angle correctly. I know this may all sound funny and worhtless info, but google ‘lifestep’ and take a look at it. It gives you the best of both worlds-squatting and the western toilet. And it slides out of view under your toilet.

Best way I know to avoid that yearly colonoscopy. It’s how most of the world does it and it would take some adjusting to. I thing the Lifestep is a great alternative for Westerners. I just need to get around to getting one.

BTW, most of Israel has gone western in the bathrooms. That must have been one of the original kibbutzes you were at. The mosque was the only place I saw it.

WARNING: This can get a little gross, so if you have just eaten, read my comment later.

Growing up in India, we had 2 kinds of toilets in our house. One was this squatting type and the other was a western type (the kind we use in America). I adapted very fast to the western type, like many other Indians. Guess who did *not* adapt. Yes, mozlum students. They used to climb on the western toilets and squat while doing their job! They have pretty bad aim, apparently prof. mo. told them not to hold their organs with the right hand. So the poor right-handed islamicks would make frequent errors. Woe to the next guy who used the bathroom!!

If you visit some Indian mozlem-owned restaurants or stores in Chicago’s Devon street you can find the Asian hole-in-the-ground toilets for them to use after their namaaz. With human dung still in them. I almost puked when I saw and heard about these the first time.

Many Indian and paki mozlems follow these islamic bathroom techniques – sitting while peeing, saying a prayer loudly “bismillah raheem rehmatullah (or whatever)” as they pee/crap. And it gets worse… in some mozlum schools and colleges in my city Hyderabad (Deccan College, Muffakam/Murrakam Jah and so on) they have a PILE of stones outside the bathroom. Mozlum students pick a stone from the pile, go in, pee or crap, wipe their organs with the stones and go outside and throw the stone back in the pile of stones. I’m not kidding, they actually do this! Apparently prof. mo. used to do this (clean up with stones for water conservation) and his faithful followers in south Asia continue the glorious tradition.

The UK is the biggest dhimmi out in the west. They already have islamic crap (pun intended) on their faces. At one time they said the sun never sets in the British empire. Soon that will be changed to “the moon never goes away from the British empire”.

These squat toilets at least flush, don’t they? I think that possibly the shopping mall is installing the squat toilets because some people, used to squatting, have some habits, when they use modern toilet bowls, that are too disgusting to describe.

My first (and thankfully only) exposure to porcelain “squats” was in Iran in 1976. Even newer buildings in downtown Teheran had them. I was staying with a local Jewish family in a middle class neighborhood, headed by a doctor. He had both squat and Western commodes, but the latter wasn’t working. Clearly the cultural hold is very strong.

One other “accommodation” that should be noted is taking place in UK prisons, where the taxpayers are funding the reorientation of commodes so they don’t face Mecca.

mk750 mentions the totally automated restroom kiosk encountered in Jerusalem. They’re actually a European innovation. They were tested in a pilot program in New York City a few years ago, but deemed unacceptable because they weren’t ADA compliant. So all of us have to be deprived along with the disabled.

Raymond, actually the one in Jerusalem was handicapped accessible. It was huge, to accommodate as a bomb shelter and I remember the commode having hand rails as well as the sink being at a height a wheelchair bound person could access. The door was similarly wide enough. Leave it to us Jews to improve on something for compassion reasons.

My my aren’t we squeamish. I have had toilet adventures all over Southern Europe to Turkey, and worst of all, in Russia during the mid 90’s. I sincerely doubt these are “Muslim” toilets. But they are toilets that Muslims use. I have often thought that I would perfer to have these floor models rather than a throne covered in, well, you know. At least it’s the bottom of my shoes making contact rather than my unmentionables. Not to mention as an outdoorsman, I cannot but marvel at the ease of going while in the anatomically correct position. I have wondered if the guy who invented Preparation H was not the same guy who came up with the throne toilet. BTW the 2 filthiest toilets were in a Russian Orthodox Church in Kazan, and the train station in St. Petersburg. Unless I was near a McDonalds or at the Raddison, I did not dare to drink diet coke in Moscow. Just standing up in a public or even some private restrooms in Moscow was nearly lethal. Cleanliness is the issue, not the position, or the religion of who uses it.

You only “love” America because of the BENEFITS you can get here and cannot find in some moslem run hell hole.

Get on back to where your SHARIA law will get your back whipped till it’s a bloody pulp, if you even look the into a man’s eyes who isn’t your husband or a relative!! How STUPID! Your people are just stupid to accept crap like that from evil moslem leaders!

We do NOT need any of you here trying to spread YOUR EVIL POLITICAL SYSTEM going under the RUSE of being a religion.

In Paris back in 2005, 4 of us ladies went into a lovely little cafe for lunch after we toured a museum. Our men folk had gone to a military museum across town and we ladies were on our own tour an Art museum, shop and have lunch.

We were seated across the VERY narrow aisle from 3 men in a “moslem man dresses”. They wore that cloth thing on their heads with a big rubber band looking thing around their head to hold it on or keep their head from exploding… like that drawing of mad MO!! LOL.

The smell from those guys was disgusting!!! I am not talking about man B.O.

We HAD to ask for another table in a restaurant because the 3 men at table near us smelled like a CESSPOOL.

They were wearing that man-dress thing and sandals. I looked down at their feet as we were moving to another table further down the aisle and BY GOLLY….there were BIG old dirty stains on the bottoms of the “dresses”.

Where these stains results of hole in floor potty accidents?????

Now, I know why they MUST have smelled so bad… they had been walking around in OPEN sandals and long “dresses” in a place where people had messed in and around a hole in the floor.
This is barbaric and unhygenic.

I have been in port-o-johns at campgrounds that smelled FAR BETTER than those guys in the DRESSES in Paris!

You guessed right, no undies and none for the women either. Knickers are a Western invention. Um, but Sewsalot, All men wore “dresses” up until about the 15th Century when the more daring eliminated their tunics and went about in what were essentially their unmentionables. It was considered quite scandalous and limited to the young men. Even in the 17th C. the Dutch Grandees wore very full pants we might call culottes. And it wasn’t until Beau Brummel in the early 19th C. that it was considered proper for a gentleman to expose his pants covered derriere with out a coat over it in polite society.
You can find more examples of men in dresses as you call them than men in trousers throughout history and cultures.
Those guys in Paris were just nasty. If they’d had on pants, their shoes would have reeked or maybe their cuffs. But your post was very funny.