Eye/legendary gem useless in 5.2

Will I ever get to use my gem/Eye enchant if I don't get a Sha weapon drop? Will they be useless once 5.2 hits?Not the instant 5.2 hits, but they won't last forever.

My question is, is Blizzard really that retarded and clueless?! 1/2 (or 1/3, depending on the number of content patches) of the legendary quest line will be USELESS for us and everyone who has to go throught them in order to reach the relevant items. Downed heroic Empress yesterday (fist weapon dropped, which no one could use), but I still dont even have a normal version of her weapon (awesome if you have to compete with 7 other specs for one weapon!). Running around with the LFR version of Lei Shis staff, due to terrible luck with caster weapons overall.

However, looking at it objectively... its a typicall Blizzard thing they pulled off with the legendary chain part 1 & 2 becoming useless, but still required to do part 3 and beyond.

Last edited by UcanDoSht; 2013-01-30 at 09:24 AM.

Another thing that gets me is the general chat when inside the Garrison. It totally reminds me of every prison film I've ever watched. The prisoners confined to their cells are talking to each other through the walls. Their chat is mostly pointless, vulgar and revolving around stuff they ll do once they get out. This is EXACTLY the content of every Garrison chat I've ever had to tolerate.

I don't understand the issue. Of course the gems will be pretty useless in the future, just like every piece of gear. Why is that surprising or 'retarded and clueless'? You're the one coming over as not too bright, with your insults and all.

Arguing with a troll is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what you do or say, he will just knock over the pieces, take a shit on the board and strut around like he won the whole damn thing.

It's horrible how they put this legendary crap together. It looked like fun at the start...

I don't care that the first two parts are required for the last one. That is actually the only thing that is legendary about this whole thing.
My problem is that the rest is not legendary. Getting reputation, obtaining 6000 valor, obtaining quest items from LFR and all by doing things you were already going to do. And the rewards, legendary gems? Really? As long as everyone can get it right? Just forget about fun.

cool things eventually get replaced. what you seem to forget is what are you replacing it with? whats coming in the future? ahhh you dont really know yet. its only "useless" if nothing replaces it and we just stop using it. but.. there will be something else. it will progress and we will swoon and drool over the next high stat item.

Originally Posted by ablib

I do realize that this is an internet forum full of morons, however in real life, no one questions me, people look to me for the answer, look up to me, trust me. To have dipshits on a video game forum question me, is insulting.

I don't understand the issue. Of course the gems will be pretty useless in the future, just like every piece of gear. Why is that surprising or 'retarded and clueless'? You're the one coming over as not too bright, with your insults and all.

The better idea for people who are working in a position as game designers (people who should make the game fun), would be letting us upgrade the weapon up to the last quest which rewards the legendary, and not making 1/2 of our effort worthless.

The 5.2 quest reward could be an item which lets us upgrade (fusion) our old sha-touched weapon with a 5.2 weapon via the forge of thunders.

Another thing that gets me is the general chat when inside the Garrison. It totally reminds me of every prison film I've ever watched. The prisoners confined to their cells are talking to each other through the walls. Their chat is mostly pointless, vulgar and revolving around stuff they ll do once they get out. This is EXACTLY the content of every Garrison chat I've ever had to tolerate.

It's horrible how they put this legendary crap together. It looked like fun at the start...

I don't care that the first two parts are required for the last one. That is actually the only thing that is legendary about this whole thing.
My problem is that the rest is not legendary. Getting reputation, obtaining 6000 valor, obtaining quest items from LFR and all by doing things you were already going to do. And the rewards, legendary gems? Really? As long as everyone can get it right? Just forget about fun.

I completely agree with you, when I first heard there was going to be a Legendary quest line I hoped that we were going to get something similar to the excellent Battered Hilt quest line instead we get a boring, mindless grind.

It's horrible how they put this legendary crap together. It looked like fun at the start...

I don't care that the first two parts are required for the last one. That is actually the only thing that is legendary about this whole thing.
My problem is that the rest is not legendary. Getting reputation, obtaining 6000 valor, obtaining quest items from LFR and all by doing things you were already going to do. And the rewards, legendary gems? Really? As long as everyone can get it right? Just forget about fun.

I've done the thunder fury quest before with a rogue friend of mine back in TBC (we had rag on farm in our guild in vanilla but no drops for 8months + then kept doing it in TBC)

The RNG on old legendaries like the bindings, eye or the twin blades is silly. They are cool items make no mistake but the RNG involved was madnening. having a guild who killed rag for the first time get the eye while we had it on farm for months felt sad.

That said i've got my gem and I am on the valour/revered reputation grind for the prince. I have no sha weapon as i've got bad luck in LFR. coins give me nothing but gold =[

At least it took some effort unlike afk farming LFR for your sigils. Legendaries should be rare also.
This game is such a joke. I am going to convince my friends to play something else because they are the only reason I am playing WoW. At the end of this expansion everyone will be walking around with a legendary item. What is the freaking point of those things then if the quests are boring as hell and the items are not rare? For the story?

It is actually harder to get some lame achievement or to get valor gear than getting these legendary gems.

The better idea for people who are working in a position as game designers (people who should make the game fun), would be letting us upgrade the weapon up to the last quest which rewards the legendary, and not making 1/2 of our effort worthless.

The 5.2 quest reward could be an item which lets us upgrade (fusion) our old sha-touched weapon with a 5.2 weapon via the forge of thunders.

My question is, is Blizzard really that retarded and clueless?! 1/2 (or 1/3, depending on the number of content patches) of the legendary quest line will be USELESS for us and everyone who has to go throught them in order to reach the relevant items. Downed heroic Empress yesterday (fist weapon dropped, which no one could use), but I still dont even have a normal version of her weapon (awesome if you have to compete with 7 other specs for one weapon!). Running around with the LFR version of Lei Shis staff, due to terrible luck with caster weapons overall.

However, looking at it objectively... its a typicall Blizzard thing they pulled off with the legendary chain part 1 & 2 becoming useless, but still required to do part 3 and beyond.

It's a quest line. You won't even be able to start part 3 without doing part 1 and 2, so they are not useless. The gem and eye are just little trinkets to tide us over till the real rewards come.

How will they be useless? 517 weapons with an extra 500 primary stats and one or two extra sockets? That's going to make a world of difference in progression. It's probably going to beat out everything until heroic ToT gear or if they include weapons in the normal thunderforged drop table.

Now if you're complaining that a 502 LFR drop will replace your LFR "legendary", I can understand your frustration for maybe not being lucky enough to have a heroic drop in this current tier, in which case come back in 8-10 weeks or so when the tier is actually over. What I can't understand is why you'd be frustrated that a more easily accessible source for upgrades is becoming available.

So, reading some of the rage here, I'm under the assumption that a few of you thought that each legendary item we obtain would accumulate upon the last one, so that when we reached the final tier, we'd be using all of the bits and bobs that Wrathion gave us, When in fact, we'll probably be only using one or two of his bits and bobs by that time, probably some god awful weapon, and maybe a little something extra from the tier previous.

Honestly I'm perfectly fine with the whole legendary quest line. It's a Legendary for everyone, and by everyone, Blizzard means, only those that feel like grinding their brains out for the next year and a half. Which turns out to be a population equal to about how many rogues got their legendary daggers last year.

Originally Posted by Winstonwolfe

In other words, he's worried about how sharp your bayonet is when you are firing RPG's.

To those who raided in TBC this isn't such a foreign concept of doing the previous tier in order to reach the next one. Blizzard dropped the ball in wrath and cata by trivializing the previous raid tiers by adding more valor gear and dungeons with each patch cycle. This way more players end up seeing the content, sure you still can skip it but it will be detrimental to gearing up. Having raid gear trivialized by new heroics was not fun, then all you did was chain queue heroics upon hitting max level to get to the next set of heroics without ever setting foot in a raid. Your mentality was created when Blizzard started trivializing their tiers before the next expansion even hit. They aren't preventing you from progressing now, they are just making it so it is more rewarding to follow the same steps that others had to so you end up seeing more content and the other players don't feel like the effort they put in was trivialized.

Sorry for the somewhat large block of text but the desire for instant gratification is not actually a useful one, Blizzard may eventually put in some form of catchup for the legendary quest line (Perhaps during t16 they will let you skip over the t14 portion of it for a price, thus putting you into the t15 progress of it).

Originally Posted by Bigbamboozal

Intelligence is like four wheel drive, it's not going to make you unstoppable, it just sort of tends to get you stuck in more remote places.

Originally Posted by MerinPally

If you want to be disgusted, next time you kiss someone remember you've got your mouth on the end of a tube which has shit at the other end, held back by a couple of valves.

At least it took some effort unlike afk farming LFR for your sigils. Legendaries should be rare also.
This game is such a joke. I am going to convince my friends to play something else because they are the only reason I am playing WoW. At the end of this expansion everyone will be walking around with a legendary item. What is the freaking point of those things then if the quests are boring as hell and the items are not rare? For the story?

It is actually harder to get some lame achievement or to get valor gear than getting these legendary gems.

The only thing that took some effort with the Cata legendaries were the solo quests, and you could just look it up on Youtube if you didn't want to figure it out by yourself. The rest was as mindless of a grind as the sigils are.

As for rarity, you can compare the gems and the prismatic socket thing with the pre-legendary versions of previous legendaries. Lots of people had those too.

Originally Posted by Erin

I only saw a few minutes of it but it looked slicker than a lubed up olympic swimmer fleeing from a shark.

My question is, is Blizzard really that retarded and clueless?! 1/2 (or 1/3, depending on the number of content patches) of the legendary quest line will be USELESS for us and everyone who has to go throught them in order to reach the relevant items. Downed heroic Empress yesterday (fist weapon dropped, which no one could use), but I still dont even have a normal version of her weapon (awesome if you have to compete with 7 other specs for one weapon!). Running around with the LFR version of Lei Shis staff, due to terrible luck with caster weapons overall.

However, looking at it objectively... its a typicall Blizzard thing they pulled off with the legendary chain part 1 & 2 becoming useless, but still required to do part 3 and beyond.

I don't understand what you mean.
I haven't gotten the Sha Touched Gun from Lei Shi yet.