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lestshall on "I'm new and interested in a Psychlo X"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=11960#post-127357
Mon, 15 Apr 2013 08:28:15 +0000lestshall127357@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Zuhörer sind in music.Monster Beats Studio Tour eine kleine Zahl fest, dass Ihre speziellen aktuellen Helm verwendet die Einstellungen auf der Legende von Macht, die nicht ausreicht, ist eingetaucht. Tatsächlich Beats Monster Studio Kopfhörer und Lampen, Größenunterschied von Macht, 110-Volt-Lampe mit 220 Volt Glühbirne verbrannt verbunden und Kopfhörer. Monster Beats Studio-Benutzer sollten sich bewusst sein, Kopfhörer-Walkman, aufgrund der Akku Grenzen des eigenen Walkman, Beats Walkman Allgemeine Monster Studio ein paar gute Watt Ausgangsleistung, also würdig Walkman-Kopfhörer Empfindlichkeit ist komplett hoch, während die Kapazität Monster Beats Studio-Leistung niedrig zu erwerben. Diese Art von Turbine Beats hören beginnen mit der Desktop-CD Maschine oder apple verwendet Monster Beats Studio sollten wissen, dass unterschiedliche Spule und Membran Menge das Atrium der Generalversammlung, die Entwicklung einer ring Monster Beats Studio-Reibung oder Brennen. . Neuen Helm, viele der Kopfhörer sollte eine Zeit brennen, bevor noch mehr Monster Beats Studio angenehm für das Ohr gefunden "" Beats By Dre Pro Bedürfnisse und entsprechende "" Prinzip Beats hören Ring Dynamik: jetzt die meisten (ca. 99% oben) Helme, Caps Beats By Dre Ohren pro Klasse, General Chairman Yu im Prinzip ähnlich, wird wohl Film Flügel Magnetfeldspule und Vibrationen verbunden werden sollen, führt Beats By Dre Pro Spulenstrom Ansteuersignal Xiao elektrostatische Kopfhörer Stimme Vibrationen film Vibrationen Veränderungen Beats By Dre Pro gesamten elektrischen Feldes, Vibration Film sehr feine und präzise Multi-Mikron-Niveau (SAX derzeit Beats By Dre Generation von Film pro Headset verfügt über genaue elektrostatische Vibrationen von 1,35 Mikron), Beats die Kraft Spule elektrische Feld des Lesegerätes By Dre pro Film Vibrationen Xiao Vokaltrakt. 2. min pro Grad geöffnet wichtigsten ist offen und halb offenen und geschlossenen (begrenzte Typ) Beats By Dre Headphones pro offene Helme allgemein verstanden bedeutet natürlich, Yu gemeinsamen Verschleiß und bequem, Genießen Hause <a href="http://www.de-beatsbydre.net/beats-by-dre-solo-hd-c-2.html">beats by dre solo hd</a> HAFIZ Kopfhörer Beats By Dre Pro-Sound können auslaufen und stattdessen <a href="http://www.de-beatsbydre.net/">de-beatsbydre.net</a> könnte sehr auch aus dem Helm hören Sound, das Ohr am offenen Teil der Beats By Dre kleineren pro Unterdrückung hören: nicht strikte Supply, Sound kann einfach nicht nicht gewiss nicht aufzugeben, ist nicht, enthalten in Beats By Dre Pro Bedürfnisse und entsprechenden geschlossenen Steuerung: das Ohr Berichterstattung über die Unterdrückung Ohr halten, um Zugang Plue vermeiden, Beats By Dre Pro Clear seine Position korrekt, check this out-Klasse rund um die Bereich der professionellen Betreuung benötigen pro Beats By Dre haben einen Nachteil wäre die niedrigen Töne konfrontiert mit sein ernst, W100 sicherlich ein offensichtliches Beispiel. 3. Presse Home (Home) Beats By Dre Solo HD Pro Portable (Portable), Bildschirm (Monitor), Mix <a href="http://www.de-beatsbydre.net/">Kopfhörer monster</a> (Mix), Binaural (Binaural Recording) 2: Parameter im Zusammenhang mit dem Helm auch die Begriffe Beats By Dre Pro Qualitätsbeauftragten so was ? Ein. Kopfhörerimpedanz Parameter (Impedanz): Bedeutung Notizen und Widerstand Beats By Dre Pro die Unterschiede in der elektrischen DC (DC) aus dem Universum in dem Objekt auf die aktuelle Rolle der Behinderung genannten Widerstand, sondern elektrische Beats By Dre Pro AC (AC) in der Bereich außerhalb Widerstand beeinflussen
</p>Steve on "Enve Fork for my 2012 Moots Vamoots"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=34193#post-48635
Fri, 14 Dec 2012 01:36:09 +0000Steve48635@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>From what I understand, that would indeed give you 372. The only thing that may look weird is if the top crown of the Enve fork is not finished because you will see a little bit of the top crown with the tall base plate since the actual crown race is now 5mm above the top of the fork. I know that on my Moots fork, the fork color does not go onto that top surface, so you would see a little of the flat black carbon color showing if you really looked. Then again, you wouldn't use it with the Moots fork. But with the Enve fork, you probably wouldn't notice since it's all black. I thought about an Enve when I bought my Vamoots but decided on the Moots fork since that is the dimension they designed the geometry to. And when all's said and done, it really looks great on the bike and it handles fantastic. It's a really nice fork and it comes with an excellent compression plug. Plus you get 2 more gators (actually 3 if you count the top cap) and you can never have enough gators.
</p>INDECS on "Enve Fork for my 2012 Moots Vamoots"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=34193#post-44795
Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:21:56 +0000INDECS44795@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>I'm thinking about going the same route: Vamoots + Enve 2.0 + Chris King.</p>
<p>If slacker would be better than steeper, you could install a Tall Chris King baseplate (+5mm), right?<br />
That would increase the axle to crown to 372mm.</p>
<p>Don't know if it would look weird though.
</p>JonC on "Enve Fork for my 2012 Moots Vamoots"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=34193#post-39716
Wed, 21 Nov 2012 19:30:22 +0000JonC39716@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Steve,<br />
Correct, the Moots frames are based on 370mm a-c. But like you said 3mm is not much....however, it's better to go slightly slacker than steeper....in the end, it would be very difficult to feel the difference on that scale.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Jon@Moots
</p>Steve on "Enve Fork for my 2012 Moots Vamoots"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=34193#post-39709
Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:32:37 +0000Steve39709@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Jon may confirm or correct me on this, but the Enve fork has a different axle to crown dimension than the Moots fork. Enve forks are 367 and the Moots forks are 370. I know it's a small difference, but it will change your geometry angles very, very slightly. I would assume the Moots geometry specs are based on the 370 Moots fork axle to crown.</p>
<p>Is that correct Jon?
</p>JonC on "Enve Fork for my 2012 Moots Vamoots"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=34193#post-39691
Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:20:24 +0000JonC39691@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Owen,<br />
Did you check out the Moots forks? Really nice quality, with 3 rakes to match our frames.....just a thought: </p>
<p><a href="http://moots.myshopify.com/collections/forks/products/moots-road-fork" rel="nofollow">http://moots.myshopify.com/collections/forks/products/moots-road-fork</a></p>
<p>If you do go the Enve route you will want the 1.125'' diameter steerer tube.</p>
<p>1.0 vs 2.0....that's up to you...the 1.0 is the lighter of the forks...really depends on rider weight and ride quality you are looking for. </p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Jon@Moots
</p>owen on "Enve Fork for my 2012 Moots Vamoots"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=34193#post-39603
Wed, 21 Nov 2012 04:18:17 +0000owen39603@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>I am ordering a Enve road fork (45mm rake) for my 60cm Moots Vamoots. Replacing my current Alpha Q-GS 40 (44mm rake).<br />
Question 1- which size?<br />
1.125" x 350mm<br />
1.1/2" x 350mm<br />
Question 2- which model 1.0 or 2.0?</p>
<p>Thank you.
</p>JonC on "CHRIS KING PF30"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=18870#post-38081
Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:19:45 +0000JonC38081@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Full M....<br />
CK is saying Q1 for the PF30 to be released......I haven't check in with them as of late, but continue to abuse the PF unit I have....solid is an understatement.</p>
<p>Yep, not too sure on the amendment 64 issue...we could call it "The Dopin' Open".....or "The High Country Century".....aid stations would have "brownies" for all......yikes.</p>
<p>Be good.</p>
<p>Jon@Moots
</p>Full Mootion on "CHRIS KING PF30"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=18870#post-37913
Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:30:04 +0000Full Mootion37913@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Jon,<br />
Are you hearing April 2013 time frame from CK on PF30? BTW When's the first Marijuana Tourism Century Ride in CO.? LOL
</p>JonC on "CHRIS KING PF30"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=18870#post-33419
Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:17:00 +0000JonC33419@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>tethernaut,<br />
Not sure on that one....I'll get the word from King.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Jon@Moots
</p>tethernaut on "CHRIS KING PF30"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=18870#post-33402
Thu, 01 Nov 2012 16:52:41 +0000tethernaut33402@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Does the PF30 work with the CK grease injector tool?
</p>JonC on "CHRIS KING PF30"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=18870#post-33079
Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:31:26 +0000JonC33079@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>King PF 30 update.....the unit survived yet another weekend of mud, sand and power washers....I tell you....this bb is the ticket for any RSL frame owner....</p>
<p>more to come...</p>
<p>Jon@Moots
</p>Hillclimber on "Psychlo X YBB - disc fork and groupset question"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=23662#post-28621
Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:12:43 +0000Hillclimber28621@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Hi Forum</p>
<p>I have read and learnt a lot through the forum already. Thank you.</p>
<p>I just have put an order in for my first MOOTS frame. A Psychlo X YBB. I want to cycle dirt road epics, long distance on road and gravel (supported touring and racing in Africa and Asia) and some mountain climbing. Probably no single trails.</p>
<p>My whole build follows the 3 principles:<br />
1. Most durable<br />
2. Most reliable<br />
3. Weight + Easy to service on the road</p>
<p>So far I have the Psychlo X YBB frame (on order), Moots stem and seat post, BB7 disc brakes, brooks saddle, handlebars and wheelset(DT SWISS TK540 with Hope hubs).</p>
<p>What do you guys think which fork would be better?<br />
A) Salsa La Cruz Cyclocross Fork 700c<br />
Durable, reliable but heavy steel fork.<br />
From my Charge Plug and my surly LHT I know the steel fork has a bit of flex which helps with fatigue, hurting wrists over multiple days in the saddle.</p>
<p>B) 3T Luteus Team Cyclocross Carbon Fork Disc tapered - seems to be the fork a few of you have used. Will it be too stiff?<br />
Is it durable enough (crashing etc)</p>
<p>C) other disc fork?</p>
<p>Groupset: I thought about Ultegra first, but I really like the SRAM Red on my Cannondale roadie. Also the the wifes roadie and the MTB have SRAM. So far they all heve shifted very nicely.<br />
Therefore I was contemplating to go SRAM red 2012 39/52 with WiFLi RD 11-32, apparently shifts even nicer than my old Red 2010.<br />
Is red the most durable and reliable? Sorry guys no Campy for me.<br />
Red?<br />
Force?<br />
DA?<br />
Ultegra?</p>
<p>What are your experiences with forks and groupos?</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Hillclimber
</p>JonC on "Moots Wool Beanies?"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=21822#post-28001
Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:25:17 +0000JonC28001@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>bigwheels,</p>
<p>New stock arriving anytime now.....</p>
<p>Yep, us too....getting colder with a big Pacific storm headed our way in the next 24 hours.......</p>
<p>thanks,</p>
<p>Jon@Moots
</p>bigwheels on "Moots Wool Beanies?"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=21822#post-26764
Sun, 21 Oct 2012 14:50:57 +0000bigwheels26764@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>YO GATOR-</p>
<p>Any plans to get more wool beanies in stock? ETA? Gettin' cold in Wisco....</p>
<p>All the best-</p>
<p>bw
</p>JonC on "CHRIS KING PF30"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=18870#post-25640
Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:20:41 +0000JonC25640@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>craig,<br />
Good question and it's probably best to contact King on that one. I would assume being Chris King the slip-in 24mm adaptors would be spaced in order not to have to use the additional spacer. From what they tell me there will be a Shimano slip in and a GXP version as well. </p>
<p>In my opinion using a 24mm spindle in a PF30 set up misses out on part of the advantage of the system as a whole. Why not use a lighter crank? But I do understand the need for Shimano users to complete the groupo with the crank as well.</p>
<p>I'll send King a note and ask about the spacing of the spacers....</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Jon@Moots
</p>craig r on "CHRIS KING PF30"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=18870#post-25304
Fri, 19 Oct 2012 08:15:24 +0000craig r25304@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Teamfubar, thats not really the answer I am looking for.<br />
Moots are using the 68mm PF30 BB(mainly a road standard) on their MTBs and as it stands as far as I know any conversion(with a pf30 bb) to use Shimano cranks also requires the use of adapters and spacers.<br />
The common standard for PF30 in MTB's is a 73mm BB shell.<br />
I thought Jon might have more insight.<br />
Jon.....?
</p>teamfubar on "CHRIS KING PF30"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=18870#post-24769
Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:22:06 +0000teamfubar24769@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>They are supposed to be offering a PF30 in a 30mm, a 24mm and a step down 30-24 model as well (using King made spacers).</p>
<p>Check the info here: <a href="http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/interbike-2012-tech-new-and-surprising-offerings-from-chris-king" rel="nofollow">http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/interbike-2012-tech-new-and-surprising-offerings-from-chris-king</a>
</p>craig r on "CHRIS KING PF30"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=18870#post-24618
Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:07:52 +0000craig r24618@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Do you know if CK will produce a MTB specific 68mm PF30 BB to suit Shimano cranks without the need for spacers?
</p>JonC on "CHRIS KING PF30"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=18870#post-24150
Wed, 17 Oct 2012 14:09:55 +0000JonC24150@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>cincytri,<br />
They are shooting for a release of early 2013....Q1.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Jon@Moots
</p>cincytri on "CHRIS KING PF30"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=18870#post-23911
Wed, 17 Oct 2012 00:08:24 +0000cincytri23911@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Great news!! If the King PF30 BB turns out to be as great as their other products, then this is a home run for both Chris King and Moots. Should make the decision to jump on the RSL line even easier. Can't wait to get one for my PX RSL.</p>
<p>Any idea when these might make it to retail customers?
</p>JonC on "CHRIS KING PF30"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=18870#post-23777
Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:02:20 +0000JonC23777@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Just in case you missed this post on the Moots Blog:</p>
<p><a href="http://moots.com/afternoon-ti/what-we-are-riding-chris-king-pf30/" rel="nofollow">http://moots.com/afternoon-ti/what-we-are-riding-chris-king-pf30/</a></p>
<p>Let me know if you have any questions.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Jon@Moots
</p>d_douglas on "I'm new and interested in a Psychlo X"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=11960#post-18769
Wed, 03 Oct 2012 22:26:13 +0000d_douglas18769@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Oupla! Jerome - t'es un 'fan' de Moots?!?! HA HA! Merci bien pour les conseils!!!
</p>Jerome on "I'm new and interested in a Psychlo X"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=11960#post-18220
Mon, 01 Oct 2012 21:28:41 +0000Jerome18220@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Buy one<br />
no hesitation </p>
<p>you can't get a better bike and a better bike on the market right now </p>
<p>if you ride you will discover another dimension </p>
<p>and believe then you will think that those guys are crazy to sell them for so few ! </p>
<p>a Moots is not expensive enough in regard of its qualities.</p>
<p>you can't invest your money in a better place </p>
<p>a Moots is more like education you will end up being a better person
</p>d_douglas on "I'm new and interested in a Psychlo X"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=11960#post-18218
Mon, 01 Oct 2012 21:00:49 +0000d_douglas18218@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Ha ha - yes, it is under way. I don't race (though getting the itch to get punished). I have gone out with two buddies who are racers and it is good fun to chase them, though I seem to get dropped very easily ;). </p>
<p>Yes, I suppose that adding a 10mm ti spacer might make up the difference. For the $$ though, I do not want to cheap out and angrily conclude that the frame doesn't feel right. I have one custom bike (a road Speedvagen) and it feels so perfect to ride - the fit is dead on. I want to capture that in a ti CX bike, hopefully a Moots . . . .
</p>29ner on "I'm new and interested in a Psychlo X"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=11960#post-17753
Sat, 29 Sep 2012 13:44:29 +000029ner17753@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Frame companies love you as you sound about as normal a human as possible. 6'1", 33" inseam, 120 stem, 17.5 ht (which is tall). But, with Moots being able to 'custom' a ht (within the cm or two that Jon mentioned), available spacers (or not), different reach/rise stems available - that crosser should be able to be dialed in easy. </p>
<p>So, custom with you?....that's a good chunk of money for a centimeter (give or take) of front end height.</p>
<p>Killer fun bikes!..................and better hurry, cross season is well under way.
</p>d_douglas on "I'm new and interested in a Psychlo X"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=11960#post-17351
Fri, 28 Sep 2012 21:57:59 +0000d_douglas17351@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Jon: </p>
<p>Thanks for this information. I ride a 120mm stem on my bike with 15mm spacers. Keep in mind that there will be no cable hanger, as I will be using disc brakes. </p>
<p>So, it appears that my 175mm TT on my road bike is 20mm taller than a 'ballpark' fitted Moots - maybe I am not understanding correctly - - are you saying that this variance is made up for in the longer fork leg length? </p>
<p>Thanks again, </p>
<p>Darren
</p>Full Mootion on "I'm new and interested in a Psychlo X"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=11960#post-17199
Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:18:25 +0000Full Mootion17199@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>A fine Moots dealer by the name of Wrench Science has a great on line fit system that will get you " in the ballpark". It's free here's the link - </p>
<p><a href="https://www.wrenchscience.com/Login.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2fSecure%2fFit%2fHeight.aspx" rel="nofollow">https://www.wrenchscience.com/Login.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2fSecure%2fFit%2fHeight.aspx</a> </p>
<p>Pay attention to the details and description on how to measure. For the minute fine details that give the perfect dialed in fit there is no substitute for in in person fitting from a professional.
</p>JonC on "I'm new and interested in a Psychlo X"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=11960#post-17168
Fri, 28 Sep 2012 14:28:10 +0000JonC17168@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Darren,</p>
<p>No, you would want to keep the HT as normal. Let's say we are looking at the 58cm PX, it has a 15.5cm ht, where the 58 Vamoots CR has a 16.5 ht....but has a much shorter seat tube, therefore we run a sloping top tube. With the cross we want to keep the top tube reasonably level @ 2.6 degrees vs. 6.7 on the CR...plus keep in mind you will run a brake hanger under the stem which adds 10mm off the bat. So really the longer fork brings you to a more upright position, which is what you want on a cross bike. Not drastic, but better for dirt/trail/cyclocross style of terrain.</p>
<p>Your measurements lead me to believe you would need a custom. Like you said, don't jeopardize the fit....</p>
<p>What stem lenght do you have on your road bike?</p>
<p>Let me know.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Jon@Moots
</p>d_douglas on "I'm new and interested in a Psychlo X"http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=11960#post-16533
Thu, 27 Sep 2012 05:40:15 +0000d_douglas16533@http://moots.com/bbpress/<p>Hi Jon: </p>
<p>Thanks for this feedback. No, I would definitely not want to jeopardize the quality of fit or aesthetic of the bike by limiting myself to a stock bike. If it can't be fit without minor changes, then it is best to do custom (though delivering me outside my price limit!) Fit is more important than hitting a price point if I am about to shell out for such a nice, expensive frame. </p>
<p>I will speak to a local pro at fitting and Moots and see what they say. A quick query netted that they will do a fit and have a look at my road bike (my only custom) </p>
<p>Bascially, I am 6'1" and a 33" inseam (or thereabouts - my Saddle to BB spindle measurement is 80cm). My road bike has a 57.5cm TT with a 175mm HT and an Enve fork. Given that a CX fork has longer legs (395mm vs 370mm or so for road), does this mean the HT could be 25mm shorter in order to get the bar to the same height? I imagine that I would want the bar a bit higher for trail riding, but your first impressions are appreciated. </p>
<p>Thanks! </p>
<p>Darren
</p>