and for two, deleting the posts wouldn't have made it better, it'd only have gotten you banned already

<Maersk>

Why?

<Maersk>

They were arguing with me

<Maersk>

Ive never been a believer in the freedom of speech

<Renegade>

because deleting opposing opinions is a few more degrees worse than abusing your powers to alter their posts

<Maersk>

I even support autocratic governments

<Maersk>

Ffs, I dont want or need their shitty oppinions

<Renegade>

again, I hope you're joking

<Maersk>

they make me look bad

<Maersk>

I'm not

<Renegade>

then you're probably on the wrong network

<Maersk>

Haha

<Maersk>

As you say

<Maersk>

Im entitled to my oppinions

<Renegade>

oh, really?

<Renegade>

so basically, you have the right to have an opinion, but everybody else doesn't?

<Maersk>

...

<Maersk>

Nono

<Maersk>

As you say

<Maersk>

everyone does

<Maersk>

Everone includes me

<Maersk>

Phh, besides

<Renegade>

then how come you don't understand that it's a bad thing to censor the others' opinions?

<Maersk>

my support for autocracies has nothing to do with this

<Maersk>

Its not bad

<Renegade>

yes it is

<Maersk>

Why?

<Renegade>

because it's taking away their right to an opinion

<Maersk>

So?

<Maersk>

They can voice their pissy oppinions elsewhere

<Maersk>

I wouldnt be taking away their rights

<Renegade>

like I said...if you don't want people to discuss your shit, don't post a thread on forums

<Maersk>

I dont want people to discuss it, I want people to acknowledge it

<Maersk>

Unless of course

<Maersk>

they have useful shit to say

<Maersk>

Anyways, split topic moved to trash

<Maersk>

During the soviet era, people dissapeared daily

<Maersk>

Whats so different about posts

<Renegade>

in case you don't realize that...people disappearing for their opinions is not a good thing

<Maersk>

Why not?

<Maersk>

Their oppinions must have done something to upset someone

<Renegade>

oh for christ's sake

<Maersk>

or challenged the beautiful autocratic dictatorship

<Maersk>

To solve the problem

<Renegade>

I *really* hope you're joking...otherwise you must be mentally retarded

<Maersk>

people should have just kept quiet

<Maersk>

Im not retarded

<Maersk>

I could call you retarded for supporting the freedom of speech

<Maersk>

but that'd be wrong

<Maersk>

and thusby, your negative comments towards my beliefs are as well

System

Renegade sets channel #renproj mode +m

<Renegade>

Maersk's SHPs suck

<Renegade>

Maersk's SHPs suck

<Renegade>

Maersk's SHPs suck

<Renegade>

great, isn't it?

<Renegade>

does it feel good to be oppressed?

<Renegade>

do you like how I just silence your opinion?

<TotalPrime>

Yes.

<TotalPrime>

Know why?

<TotalPrime>

Because I know for a fact you can't do better

<TotalPrime>

Haha

<TotalPrime>

So you just sound foolish

<TotalPrime>

I laughed hysterically when you did that

System

Renegade sets channel #renproj mode -m

<Renegade>

oh really, I can't?

<Maersk>

Ya rly

<Renegade>

you do know I have a big "block" button as well, right?

<Maersk>

Good for you

<Maersk>

So do I :)

<Maersk>

But honestly

<Maersk>

lets stop this fucking fighting

<Renegade>

yeah...but what would it help you?

<Maersk>

and get on with life

<Maersk>

I have four words for ye

<Maersk>

GET. OVER. IT.

<Maersk>

Oh wait

<Maersk>

thats 3

<Maersk>

whatever

<Maersk>

Its the internet

<Renegade>

heh, and that's where you're wrong

<Maersk>

I'd punch your face in in real life, but I can't.

<Renegade>

it's not just "the internet"

<Maersk>

Yes it is

<Maersk>

Oh.

<Maersk>

Fine.

<Maersk>

It's the World Wide Web.

<Renegade>

it's my forums. and on my forums, the only one oppressing people is me.

<Maersk>

Yet you call opressing wrong?

<Maersk>

:P

<Renegade>

and for now, I decided to only oppress n00bs

<Maersk>

Oh, you consider me a n00b?

<Renegade>

everybody else is free to voice their opinion

<Maersk>

Seriously.

<Maersk>

I believe autocracy is the only way to control a country effectively

<Renegade>

that includes people who want to criticize you, and that includes your area of the forums

<Maersk>

as long as the autocracy is not corrupt, it is fine

<Maersk>

and I fail to see why you don't understand or accept that

<Maersk>

The countries that have affected history positively the most were autocracies

<Renegade>

you fail to see that I majorly don't care

<Maersk>

Autocracies have formed great countries, and great structures

<Maersk>

Look at britan

<Maersk>

guess what it was until somewhat recently

<Renegade>

this is not about the dead, failed states of the past

<Maersk>

A monarchy

<Renegade>

this is about my forums, right now

<Maersk>

A monarchy is for the most part an autocracy

<Maersk>

Whatever

<Maersk>

Im sick of this fucking argument

System

Maersk quit (Quit: Leaving)

<Renegade>

fucking idiot

<TotalPrime>

My reputation is -5?

<TotalPrime>

Haha

<TotalPrime>

What does that little number even do

<Renegade>

represent how the people feel about you

<TotalPrime>

Can I adjust other peoples reputation?

<TotalPrime>

I see no button

<Renegade>

well, you could - but since I know you'd just alter it out of revenge right now, an admin would revert your changes

<TotalPrime>

No I wouldn't

<TotalPrime>

Its the internet

<TotalPrime>

fuck revenge

<TotalPrime>

I'm one of the fairest people you'll know

<TotalPrime>

When it comes to such shit

<Renegade>

unfortunately, not when it comes to opinions

<TotalPrime>

Because guess what

<TotalPrime>

other peoples oppinions mean shit to me

<TotalPrime>

I don't respect oppinions unless I like the person who gives them

<Renegade>

and that is your good right. But not respecting and oppressing them are two different things

<TotalPrime>

BUT ITS MY DAMN FORUM!

<TotalPrime>

Every other feckin community in the world would let me do that

<Renegade>

nope, almost none would

<TotalPrime>

Plenty of people do it on revora, SSF, cannis

<TotalPrime>

The only reason I went with your damn community is because I didnt like big communities

<TotalPrime>

Im just trying to get my mod off the fucking ground again

<TotalPrime>

I dont need people saying I steal shit or saying I'm anarrogant

<TotalPrime>

*arrogant

<TotalPrime>

One is true, sure, I'm an arrogant bastard

<TotalPrime>

but I don't steal, and never will

<Renegade>

but you did

<TotalPrime>

all such comments serve to do is make me look bad

<TotalPrime>

Yeah, I stole. Nice joke, but it sucks.

<TotalPrime>

Prove I stole.

<TotalPrime>

And this is where any chance of being right dries up for you

<TotalPrime>

I thought so, you cant prove shit

<Renegade>

stfu, I'm still browsing the logs

<Renegade>

you even admitted to it

<TotalPrime>

Yeah, I wanted madhq to shut the hell up and it seemed a viable way

<Renegade>

it was one incident, and you kept lamenting about "no readme" or some shit

<TotalPrime>

Meh, he's saying I stole for something I never even released

<TotalPrime>

if I don't release it its not stealing because its for personal use

<TotalPrime>

but, back to the point, I never stole in the first place.

<TotalPrime>

:)

<TotalPrime>

Woah

<TotalPrime>

I was just headbanging to a song

<TotalPrime>

Not in my desk chair

<TotalPrime>

I leaned back for a sec and collapsed

<TotalPrime>

talk about dizzy

<TotalPrime>

brb

<TotalPrime>

Making myself lunch

<TotalPrime>

back

<TotalPrime>

just a question

<TotalPrime>

Why do you hate autocracies so much

<TotalPrime>

germany was one until 1945

<TotalPrime>

Imperial germany, prenazi was a fairly successful state until WWI

<Renegade>

You just don't get it, do you? You can't just evaluate forms of government just by how powerful states were that used them

<Renegade>

in every single dictatorship or oligarchy so far, billions of innocent people suffered

<TotalPrime>

The people don't matter as long as the country is successful

<TotalPrime>

If the country fails

<TotalPrime>

everything related fails

<Renegade>

and that is where we disagree

<TotalPrime>

if the people fail, no one cares.

<TotalPrime>

Its been proven

<TotalPrime>

hitler proved it

<TotalPrime>

no one cared when he made the first assault on the jews

<TotalPrime>

Im not a nazi

<TotalPrime>

I hate nazis

<TotalPrime>

I hate hitler

<TotalPrime>

I dont hate jews

<TotalPrime>

but he proved that people didn't care

<Renegade>

No. All he proved is that if you're powerful enough, you can do anything

<Renegade>

...but that doesn't change the fact that what he did was wrong.

<TotalPrime>

Of course what he did was wrong

<TotalPrime>

but the general concept behind autocracy is good

<TotalPrime>

the leaders have just been corrupt

<Renegade>

and how is Hitler's elimination of the Jews because they're Jewish different from you deleting posts because the disagree with you?

<TotalPrime>

Because posts arent people

<Renegade>

that's because forums aren't states

<Renegade>

but posts are to forums what people are to states

<TotalPrime>

So?

<TotalPrime>

They still arent states.

<TotalPrime>

Anywyas

<TotalPrime>

Im a supporter of Autocracy, Militarism, dictatorships, all of that shit

<TotalPrime>

as long as the rulers aren't too corrupt

<TotalPrime>

And, if they are, as long as they don't go up against my group of society

<Renegade>

see? there you are

<TotalPrime>

You could say I'm corrupt

<TotalPrime>

I'll admit I am

<Renegade>

you are a supporter of *you* being *in power*

<TotalPrime>

Of course I am

<TotalPrime>

Because then I'd have my way

<Renegade>

if you were a Jew in Nazi Germany, you'd hate dictatorships just as everybody else

<Renegade>

in other words, you're a hipocrite

<TotalPrime>

Alas, I wasn't a jew in nazi germany

<TotalPrime>

So I dont hate dictatorships

<Renegade>

hypocrite*

<TotalPrime>

***Hippocrate

<TotalPrime>

Well

<TotalPrime>

both spellings are correct

<Renegade>

hippopotami in crates have nothing to do with this

<TotalPrime>

Both spellings are correct

<Renegade>

no

<TotalPrime>

Yes

<TotalPrime>

the term was named after HIPPOCRATES.

<TotalPrime>

The original term was spelled hippocrate

<Renegade>

dude, there is a guy named "Hippocrates" and a word "hypocrite" - there's nothing in between

<TotalPrime>

Guess what the term came from

<TotalPrime>

You're a german, I'm positive you don't know english as well as I do

<TotalPrime>

Ooh

<Renegade>

well, given that neither wiktionary nor merriam-webster nor dict.leo have ever heard of "hippocrate", I'll just assume I know it even better, and you're just stubborn and full of shit

<TotalPrime>

My CN3 preorder came in

<TotalPrime>

I guess i'll pick it up tonight

<TotalPrime>

Goodgood

<TotalPrime>

Dude

<TotalPrime>

You might hate me

<TotalPrime>

but I'm possibly the nicest guy you'll ever talk to if ye'd just get over the shit I said earlier

<TotalPrime>

As you say, Im entitled to my oppinions

<Renegade>

lol

<TotalPrime>

ACCEPT IT.

<Renegade>

I'm pretty sure you're one of the people I most dislike talking to

<TotalPrime>

Get over it.

<TotalPrime>

If I am

<TotalPrime>

You need to get outside more

<Renegade>

so you can wreak havoc on the forums? I think not.

<TotalPrime>

I don't plan on wreaking havok

<TotalPrime>

I just want my forum to be clean

<TotalPrime>

You got CNC3 yet?

<Renegade>

of course not

<Renegade>

despite the fact that I doubt the game is any C&C, the demo decided it didn't need to start

<Renegade>

and, under no circumstances, I'd pay full price for that piece of junk

System

End of Part I / Beginning of Part II

<RedCommandant>

does anyone here have the rockpack 1.10

<DCoder>

nope

<Renegade>

nope

<RedCommandant>

the one VK stopped distributing

<RedCommandant>

aww damn

<RedCommandant>

I need it for my mod :(

<Renegade>

and we totally haven't seen Nighthawk's post on the forums

<Renegade>

like, had we seen it, we'd have to remove it

<Renegade>

because of all the links, you know

<RedCommandant>

I haven't visited the forums in awhile :O

<RedCommandant>

is there a post?

<DCoder>

...

<Renegade>

no, definitely not

<Renegade>

no post whatsoever

<RedCommandant>

Hehe, ok, ill go look

<Carnotaurus>

lol

<Carnotaurus>

Ahh yay, my AI is actually good! The sad part is its just a warmed over TS AI...

<Carnotaurus>

it kicked my ass. ;_;

<DCoder>

heh

<Carnotaurus>

but the RA2 walls look good in TS. no resizing needed. :)

<DCoder>

thats nice

<Renegade>

but weird

<Renegade>

shouldn't they be something like 25% bigger?

<DCoder>

rofl

<DCoder>

Rattuskid comments on VK's name choice of "ZPatch" (a bit old)

<DCoder>

"He'll rename it to Preperation H. The name would at least be more fitting. It works well at soothing the iritation, but you have to touch an asshole to use it."

<Renegade>

lol

<RedCommandant>

posted:

<RedCommandant>

A post from RedCommandant will be as follows:

<RedCommandant>

VK created ZPatch/Swizzlepatch/NPatch or whatever else he names it, and also has done ALL WORK on rockpatch up until the time he killed it off. You are all complaining about something he did because he wanted to. Not because he had to. He has no obligation to release ANYTHING to you whiny pieces of shit. It is his work, I believe that he has every right to control its distribution, and as such you all need to shut the

<RedCommandant>

hell up, get off the soapbox, and actually get a clue. *GASP*. If you don't like how he does things, fine, don't use his work. But comparing him to Hitler and Stalin or whatever else is just ridiculous, because he is using his own free time, time that could be spent with women and a nice flask of whiskey (I won't go into the details), instead developing a patch which all of you lame bastards have felt the need to compl

<RedCommandant>

ain about.

<RedCommandant>

Seriously, grow up. He has devoted countless hours of his time and THIS is the thanks he gets? If you really hate him this much, why don't you go teach yourself assembly and make your own rock patch. See how hard it is and how much time you'll need to devote. Until then, shut the FUCK up, and realize that you can't always get what you want, and he isn't your damned slave.

<RedCommandant>

END OF. DISCUSSION. It is his work and he as the right to do whatever the fuck he feels like; he has no obligation at all to serve to the community's every demand. Stop distributing HIS WORK against his very simple request, and simply be patient and wait for the next version that he wastes his time on for this selfish community.

<DCoder>

buttkisser

<RedCommandant>

Not rly.

<RedCommandant>

More like, realist.

<Renegade>

yuck, text

<RedCommandant>

omgt3xt

<DCoder>

you know, you are starting to sound more and more like prime

* Renegade thinks of looking up the "I refuse to read all that" bash quote

<Renegade>

your argumentation is flawed

<RedCommandant>

How

<RedCommandant>

It is his work, he can do what he pleases with it :S

<RedCommandant>

I am only supporting somebody who for now rhyme or reason gets absolutely no support, instead hate for all the time he has put into the project :S

<Renegade>

yes, but your argumentation assumes we have no reason to complain

<RedCommandant>

You dont

<RedCommandant>

you have no right to complain.

<Renegade>

yes, we have

<RedCommandant>

Why? Because you are not making it

<Renegade>

That is irrelevant

<RedCommandant>

he doesnt have to be making it

<Renegade>

if his product is not good, his product is not good

<RedCommandant>

It is good

<Renegade>

if he's and asshole, he's an asshole

<RedCommandant>

I don't think he's an asshole

<DCoder>

woah, drama thread flashbacks

<Renegade>

that is entirely independent from the fact of whether or not he gets paid

<RedCommandant>

Him being an asshole is not fact but opinion

<Renegade>

pd didn't get paid either

<Renegade>

and you know what?

<RedCommandant>

And likewise, he did not HAVE to make it :S

<Renegade>

nobody hated pd or pd's RP

<RedCommandant>

Maybe because he was a pussy who gave into everybodys demand and request

<Renegade>

so obviously there is a difference, even though are doing the very same thing

<RedCommandant>

dont get me wrong, PD was a decent guy

<RedCommandant>

but I think he gave in too much

<RedCommandant>

I found his patch useful then, and I find VK's patch useful NOW.

<Renegade>

my favorite example at this point is the random flag renaming thing

<RedCommandant>

I am a modder just as everyone else, why is it that my opinion is so different

<RedCommandant>

Maybe because that is just it

<RedCommandant>

it is everybody's opinion

<RedCommandant>

not a set fact

<RedCommandant>

maybe people just can't deal with change, they want everything handed to them on a silver plate

<Renegade>

are you seriously of the opinion that we have no right to complain when VK decides to randomly rename flags, just because he feels like it, fucking up all mods in the process?

<Renegade>

with the sole justification of it being "I code this, stfu"?

<RedCommandant>

Yes.

<DCoder>

he feels like fucking up my mod, I feel like calling him a knob

<RedCommandant>

Because he is absolutely right

<RedCommandant>

he codes it.

<DCoder>

fair game

<RedCommandant>

you dont have to use the new version

<Renegade>

but that doesn't mean I can't complain about him feeling the need to invalidate all my work

<RedCommandant>

Thats not why he did it

<Renegade>

if VK fucks up my mod, I have the right to complain about it

<RedCommandant>

he simply made it more logical in its naming convention

<Renegade>

no matter if I'm forced to subdue to his fucking or not

<Renegade>

yeah, right

<Renegade>

what was that? he renamed TUT1?

<Renegade>

that most definitely had a large impact on the logical structure of the ini

* Renegade rolls eyes

<DCoder>

dude, you're wasting time

<DCoder>

drama thread, remember?

<DCoder>

epic posts

<DCoder>

no hope

<DCoder>

"must... have... rp... " is the only thing they know

<Renegade>

well, I find it more interesting that Mr. RedCommandment arguments just like Prime, uses the same ISP, and you still insist it's all a coincidence

<RedCommandant>

Eh?

<RedCommandant>

I'm not arguing

<RedCommandant>

I'm stating much needed facts

<Renegade>

you're stating love slave bullshit

<RedCommandant>

not really

<RedCommandant>

I'm stating much needed facts.

<DCoder>

repeating it over and over won't magically make it true

<Renegade>

then explain how exactly VK's activities as a coder or my usage of his product automatically take away any right I have to complain

<RedCommandant>

Because simply put, you didn't make the patch

<RedCommandant>

he did.

<Renegade>

okay

<RedCommandant>

So automatically he has the right to do whatever he wants.

<Renegade>

going from that argumentation, I could come over to you and shoot you in the face with a .50 Desert Eagle, and you'd have no right to complain

<Renegade>

because I did it, and I did it for free

<RedCommandant>

except that would be illegal

<RedCommandant>

what he is doing is not.

<Renegade>

EA would disagree

<DCoder>

retroactively changing licenses is

<RedCommandant>

EA is a great company, that while making a flawed game (generals) also made a great great game (CNC3)

<Renegade>

...

<RedCommandant>

Command and Conquer 3 is one of the best command and conquers ive played

<Renegade>

for how long have you been part of this community?

<RedCommandant>

around 4 years, "sir"

<Renegade>

what was that, Generals release?

<RedCommandant>

?

<Renegade>

maybe you should've been here when they didn't give shit about whether we existed at all, and only started caring once they wanted us to buy Generals

<RedCommandant>

I don't care if they care

<RedCommandant>

I just want a fun game

<Renegade>

or when they didn't give a fuck about what makes a C&C, and simply slapped a sticker on Generals

<DCoder>

"I dont care if the patch fucks up everyone else, I just want it and I want it now"

<RedCommandant>

Renegade

<RedCommandant>

Generals was a good game

<RedCommandant>

it wasn't a CNC

<RedCommandant>

but it was a good game

<Renegade>

people like you are the reason EA has the power to fuck up gamers and gaming studios over and over again

<RedCommandant>

they were wrong to brand it as such, but nevertheless, it was a decent quality game

<DCoder>

right

<RedCommandant>

But, it was not Command and Conquer

<RedCommandant>

and it was pathetic in comparison with the rest of the series.

<Renegade>

and yet, you hail them as the keepers of the C&C community

<RedCommandant>

They made CNC3

<RedCommandant>

CNC3 is very fun

<DCoder>

"fun"

<RedCommandant>

CNC3 continues the storyline in a nice way

<RedCommandant>

the liquid-t deposit/ion cannon was genius

<RedCommandant>

as well as Redmond Boyle, best character ever.

<Renegade>

...so?

<RedCommandant>

Seriously, EA did a great job, and it felt like a CNC game to me

<RedCommandant>

not a generals game, but a CNC game

<Renegade>

the fact that after half a decade they manage to ship a marginally good game doesn't make them a good company, a caring company, or caring for the community

<RedCommandant>

So?

<RedCommandant>

They are rich, they don't need us to care

<Renegade>

it just means they realized a lot of revenue because Generals sucked as a C&C

<Renegade>

they lost a lot of ...*

<RedCommandant>

As long as the game is fun, I am happy

<RedCommandant>

as long as it is true to cnc, I am happy

<RedCommandant>

if they change a few things to make it better for a wider audience, I think that is perfectly fine

<Renegade>

iow, you're a happy a little drone, and that's all that matters

<RedCommandant>

I respect authority

<RedCommandant>

and I respect the decisions authority makes

<RedCommandant>

I will be the one getting promoted in my job

<RedCommandant>

and making more money

<RedCommandant>

and you will be the ones who get FIRED.

<Renegade>

I think the average guy term is "asskisser"

<DCoder>

lol

<Renegade>

and you're missing a point there

<DCoder>

I said that twenty minutes ago

<Renegade>

(again)

<Renegade>

[I know]

<Renegade>

...if you get promoted to be my boss, I'll leave on my own

<Renegade>

because I wouldn't want to be the one serving under a boss who only got powers because he's good at sucking cock

<RedCommandant>

The ones who suck cock make the money

<Renegade>

yeah

<RedCommandant>

The ones who make the money get nice houses and cars

<RedCommandant>

and women

<Renegade>

it's called "prostitution"

<RedCommandant>

<_<

<Renegade>

The ones who don't subdue to authoritah are their own bosses

<Renegade>

and _decide_ how much money they make

<RedCommandant>

Which often times is none at all.

<RedCommandant>

Nobody has beaten microsoft yet

<RedCommandant>

the only things that are really putting up a fight are free

<Renegade>

and the fact that you make that sound like a negative thing is the very core of your problem

<RedCommandant>

Free things don't make money, hun

<RedCommandant>

None at all.

<RedCommandant>

I am a man of money, it is my passion

<Renegade>

Unfree people don't have a choice

<RedCommandant>

Money will get me what I need

<Renegade>

If your boss decides you get less, you have no power to change that

<RedCommandant>

A nice car, a nice house, and aloving wife

<Renegade>

...no matter how deep you take him

<RedCommandant>

if my wife decides to give me less I will take my degrees somewhere else, or atleast threaten to

<RedCommandant>

I do not expect to leave college with anything short of a masters

<RedCommandant>

I come from a wealthy family, I will not be ALLOWED to leave college without a masters

<Renegade>

that explains a lot

<DCoder>

Money, get away

<DCoder>

Get a good job with more pay and you're O.K.

<DCoder>

Money, it's a gas

<DCoder>

Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash

<DCoder>

New car, caviar, four star daydream,

<DCoder>

Think I'll buy me a footbal team.

<DCoder>

Pink Floyd - Money

<RedCommandant>

Such a true song

<DCoder>

where's my fucking cluebat

<RedCommandant>

<3

<RedCommandant>

Up your ass

<RedCommandant>

Duh.

<DCoder>

out of actual arguments, are we

<RedCommandant>

Just read what you say and you can figure that out

<RedCommandant>

Whoever said that?

<DCoder>

you started personal attacks, which is usually a sign of people not having any arguments left

<RedCommandant>

I already told you

<RedCommandant>

I don't argue

<RedCommandant>

I simply state the facts

<DCoder>

so do we

<RedCommandant>

Hardly

<DCoder>

that's what you think

<DCoder>

and, coincidentally, is what we think of your "facts"

<Renegade>

not to mention that your facts lack anything validating them as facts

<Renegade>

or, more importantly, validating your conclusions from said facts

<Renegade>

your argumentation style is "A is true, B is true, I think C is because of that, and because A = true and B = true, C = true"

wasn't prime the one who expressed his liking for all forms of tolitarian government?

<DCoder>

yep

<Renegade>

"VK seriously stop being a dictator, and listen to the simple requests people have made. It might make your patch better yknow."

<Renegade>

...his latest post from the forums

<RedCommandant>

<Renegade> your argumentation style is "A is true, B is true, I think C is because of that, and because A = true and B = true, C = true"

<RedCommandant>

That is not at all my argumentation style

<RedCommandant>

And also, I guess i'd have to share a liking for totalitarianism with that prime guy

<Renegade>

of course it is. You argumented that, because I neither made the patch nor paid VK, I have no right to complain about his work

<RedCommandant>

Putin sure knows how to make his country work

<RedCommandant>

Economy has skyrocketed

<RedCommandant>

yet many call him... totalitarian

<RedCommandant>

a dictator, an authoritarian

<DCoder>

right

<RedCommandant>

Im going to go.

<Renegade>

and that's just crap. Fact A, Renegade did not create RP, and Fact B, VK was not paid to create RockPatch, are totally independent from conclusion C, Renegade has no right to complain

<RedCommandant>

If anyone wishes to continue this discussion, my AIM is "rc122larson"

<Renegade>

nothing in A or B takes away my right to complain about bad work, stupid rules and crappy treatment of the community.

<RedCommandant>

Renegade has no right to complain because it is not his project

<Renegade>

oh yeah, that makes sense

<RedCommandant>

Im sure it does.

<Renegade>

I'll never complain about the weather again

<RedCommandant>

The weather is controlled by god, and god lets us damned complain :P

<RedCommandant>

well

<RedCommandant>

the weather is controlled by climate

<RedCommandant>

but nonetheless, for the religious man, god created climate.

<RedCommandant>

and I happen to be religious.

<DCoder>

heh

<Carnotaurus>

Good for you. :)

<Carnotaurus>

What difference does it make to me?

<Carnotaurus>

None.

<Renegade>

oh, and traffic jams. construction sites. damn noise animals.

<RedCommandant>

o_O

<RedCommandant>

random!

<Renegade>

no right to complain about any of that

<RedCommandant>

You do

<Renegade>

not my project

<RedCommandant>

it is nobodys project

<RedCommandant>

and the things that are

<RedCommandant>

the people are paid to do

<Renegade>

who cares if that construction site is leading to me being late? I have no right to complain, it's not my project...

<RedCommandant>

But according to you, one who operates independantly has more freedom or something like that

<RedCommandant>

so you cant be late if you run the show

<RedCommandant>

;)

System

RedCommandant quit (Quit: Leaving)

<Renegade>

hmm

<DCoder>

sure got the last word, didn't he

<Renegade>

how do you call the Moses Maneuvre when it wasn't about god?

<Renegade>

"Controlled Exit"?

System

Renegade sets channel #renproj mode +b *!*@*.covad.net

<Renegade>

that ISP seems to be home of all assholes

<DCoder>

Im not sure what's worse .. that we spent 56 minutes hopelessly arguing with a Scrooge McRepublican slash buttkisser, or that that was the highlight of my day

System

End of Part II / Beginning of Part III

Maersk

tell renegade not to ban me :P

IcySon55

what you do?

IcySon55

what'd*

Maersk

I spammed like aweek ago

Maersk

and now renegade seems to want me permabanned for it

IcySon55

well

IcySon55

his site

IcySon55

his descision

IcySon55

I can't exactly vouch for you

IcySon55

what would I say? he didn't spam? >.>

Maersk

nah, more like "So what, he spammed once, big deal? :P"

IcySon55

I'm 100% sure the reason wasn't just one bit pf spam

IcySon55

of*

IcySon55

he was probably tired of your atitude for a while and the spam just push him off the edge

System

End of Part III / Beginning of Part IV

Maersk

Are you one of the jackasses who's trying to run VK outta the community?

IcySon55

are you one of those blind jackasses?

Maersk

No.

IcySon55

it appears you are

Maersk

why?

IcySon55

because why would I be trying to kick him out if I hosted him?

Maersk

How am I supposed to know you host him

IcySon55

hmm

IcySon55

maybe because of his posts THANKING ME

Maersk

besides, that could all be a ploy to simply delete his site when you feel like it and kill publicity.

Maersk

I don't visit the forums much

IcySon55

"New NP web-site"

IcySon55

thanks to me for hosting him

Maersk

Dude

Maersk

I dont follow N-patch

Maersk

because I dont mod YE

Maersk

*YR

IcySon55

and I certainly have the power to delete his page, but why would I do that when I work with him on another project you know shit-all about?\

Maersk

because who knows, you might just be trying to backstab him like all the other ungrateful fucks in the community

IcySon55

sure

Maersk

Im serious

IcySon55

you can go on with your paranoia

Maersk

he's on the hate-level of ME>

Maersk

*Me.

Maersk

atleast at renegade

IcySon55

I'm involved, behind a lot of the scenes in many places

IcySon55

I know what goes on

IcySon55

better than most

Maersk

because "most" don't care :P

IcySon55

vk LEFT renproj of his own accord

Maersk

Im not talking about renproj

IcySon55

where are they bashing him?

Maersk

a lot of people wanted him outed from the community itself

IcySon55

those people are not me

IcySon55

obviously

Maersk

good.

Maersk

No need for the pissant attitude

IcySon55

because you need to read that somewhere

IcySon55

and I haven't posted anything about kicking vk out

IcySon55

that would be stupid

Maersk

Good.

Maersk

Now shut the fuck up and take the bitterness elsewhere

IcySon55

what bitterness

IcySon55

you brought

IcySon55

it

IcySon55

"Are you one of the jackasses who's trying to run VK outta the community?" Is not a way to start a conversation. I have every right to be pissed at your attitude, and your accusations. Plus, paranoia is really annoying.

Date: Part I - 2007 March 27, Part II - 2007 July 14, Part III - 2007 July 6, Part IV - 2007 July 20.