Not far away, gunfire was heard. Extraordinary images out of nairobi. Moments ago, we spoke with him directly. Can you describe for me the theme at the mall right now, what are you seeing from your vantage point. Kenyan authorities have increased the security perimeter this morning. They pushed back the crowds. Are you hearing gunfire still? The gun fire over the last hour or two have tapered off. However, I don't know what this means, we saw kenyan security forces entered the mall with a rocket-propelled grenade. That seems like a heavy weapon for this situation. How well trained are kenyan security forces? In general, the low-ranking, low-trained guys -- there was a slow response yesterday. There aren't a lot of resources here. Police don't have cars typically, they're on foot. Security forces were arriving on foot. However, kenya's elite units have been trained by the u.S. Military and britain's military and those guys, by all accounts, know what they're doing. While the initial response was slow, are the elite troops on the scene now at least? They're on the scene. They're inside the building. They started entered the building late saturday night in different waves. Those would be the troops we're hearing the gunfire from. To be clear, as far as we can understand here, the motivation isn't to go after westerners it's about african politics. These hard-core terrorists understand the power of public relations and they know that hitting this upscale mall where americans and europeans go to eat and go to shop, generates a lot of news in europe and america. That's what they're seeking. They're seeking to em bar raz kenya and to force kenya to withdraw their troops in somalia. The number of hostages inside is the end game for them. Thank you very much. Thank you. That of course is the question right now the endgame

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