Hello! It happen to me too, the same day after the mainteinance I was able to play normally, but when i turn off and on my pc, the launcher stop working. I checked the Windows actualizations, and 1 was installed in 10 sept and 4 the 11 of september. I Unninstalled the last (KB4515384) and the game finally works!

"Petitions are explicitly forbidden. Please note, calling a petition a request will not disguise its true nature."

That being said, the PvP situation gets brought to EME's attention almost every day these days and things have been done and are being worked on to try to help. The good response to the recent event was noted, and they know there's a desire to do more like that to keep people queuing. The issue with gearing is known, including the fact there are certain items you need but can only get via PvE, and a solution is being sought for that. Not all problems have an easy solution because part of the way the game works was designed purposefully by BHS, but conversations are always happening. It's definitely not forgotten.

There are a bunch of threads already around on this topic asking for more constructive changes, so I'd ask that you post specific suggestions in there. Believe it or not, things have changed recently and there's an increased ability to make changes, but please make your suggestions practical and well-justified.

I'm sure all the reward numbers/requisites for rewards/punishments can be tweaked by Devs.
It doesn't take a 14 yo to know that just simple incentives will bring back dead part of the game (PvP aspect).
People play games grindy games mostly with the notion "Am I rewarded/compensated adaquately for my time spent"?

I looked at my bank, found something from 4-years ago, 70 sea chests. As I loved to spam unified gear BGs or CS back in the past.
It was a daily thing for me shouting "3-1-3 !
So that's 70 strongbox keys that I suddenly have now, or ~500k gold.
Imagine each round of playing CS nets you 7000g (cap at 1 reward per char), lol. The whole server will be popping it daily.

TLDR: increase incentives for PvP, so that people actually queue for it again

I originally had an issue with the new launcher not launching the game (you hit play and you'd see the circles spinning for a short while but the game would never launch; old launcher continued working fine). Reinstalling the launcher and even trying to manually relocate the game again didn't work (it would update and show the patch/build version fine). I also have the game installed under Steam and updated the launcher for that to the new one and it worked fine from there. I managed to get my non-Steam install working with the new launcher by deleting en.meta.json and tera.meta.json (these are recreated when launching the game) from the TERA/Client folder and running the new launcher again.

@QueenNora said:
To be honest, I don't know why Tera became the cheap copy of Black Desert, it's something that doesn't fit the style of this game, the caiman grinding is extremely boring and I don't say it because I talk about the grind, I say it Because this is something that is not going well for this game, this is like doing something unnecessarily difficult because they feel like it.

Why TERA became a cheap copy of BDO?

Just look at the changes in BHS. They changed their name to Krafton (Kakao's "K" in their name).

It is not wonder why they are making things way too similar to BDO and expect to have the feature "your gear may go poof after failure" in the near future.

LMAO, well honestly I haven't checked who the hell is leading this game hahaha but thanks for letting me know this information, now everything makes sense, no wonder why the grind with lvls - sp - ep, afk fishing, downgrade with repairable mechanic, "WB"...

@UsagiFF said:
The main issue is there can't be PERMANENT changes because how devs have been changing things in the past year. However we can demand our Publisher to provide better rewards for PvP content that allows their comunity to catch up in gear, accesories, ep, advancement skills and character exp to veterans and have a more fair ground to be competitive in the game, making "PLAYER SKILLS" actually what gives you the edge and not "A WALL OF HEAVY GRIND AND RNG".

The only idea I get is flooding their support tickets with these demands and see if it works because so far forums are ignored from EME staff. These forums became more like a comunity forum handled by players at this point. On Discord they will ignore most of the people and will focus only on their regulars over there and hope to have luck to not met one troll that keeps flooding their chat and what you wrote gets sinked in the flood.

Player Council over there... its more like they only exist to pass EME voice on Discord to the forums and you will only see a couple of them active on Discord anyway.

At this point at how things are I wonder why they even keep these forums where they have shown us its not of their interest.

I understand what you say and it is really frustrating to see what once was a fun game, it became a grind and rng fest with P2W events, the worst of all is that nobody says anything.

That event of the 50 runs in grid and shorehold was good yeah, but I don't applaud them because it is something they do once every 100000 years .... What a frustration I feel with the administrators of this game...

I really appreciate the fact that the staff have given us rewards boxes as an apology for the server downtime. But I only thought it was supposed to be one time only, but the community received credits yesterday as well. I was wondering, will it be an ongoing thing for the 800/400 coins and emporium credit box until the strongbox event ends?

The main issue is that there can't be PERMANENT changes because how devs have been changing things in the past year. However we can demand our Publisher to provide better rewards for PvP content that allows their comunity to catch up in gear, accesories, ep, advancement skills and character exp to veterans and have a more fair ground to be competitive in the game, making "PLAYER SKILLS" actually what gives you the edge and not "A WALL OF HEAVY GRIND AND RNG".

@QueenNora said:
To be honest, I don't know why Tera became the cheap copy of Black Desert, it's something that doesn't fit the style of this game, the caiman grinding is extremely boring and I don't say it because I talk about the grind, I say it Because this is something that is not going well for this game, this is like doing something unnecessarily difficult because they feel like it.

Why TERA becae a cheap copy of BDO?

Just look at the changes in BHS. They changed their name to Krafton (Kakao's "K" in their name).

It is not wonder why they are making things way too similar to BDO and expect to have the feature "your gear may go poof after failure" in the near future.

As you all know, the battlegrounds have been suffering exponentially in these last patches, either due to lack of motivation of the players or because the rewards are really a waste of time, for this reason I ask the entire PvP community to make a petition demanding PERMANENT changes in daily rewards and items from the bellicarium store. If we don't demand changes, don't expect GMs to give the solution because they will not, remember that we are entitled to demand what is fair for us, since many of us spend money on the game and this company eats thanks to it.

To be honest, I don't know why Tera became the cheap copy of Black Desert, it's something that doesn't fit the style of this game, the caiman grinding is extremely boring and I don't say it because I talk about the grind, I say it Because this is something that is not going well for this game, this is like doing something unnecessarily difficult because they feel like it.

I agree with the idea of jewelry, we are not all interested in making high-end pve content, I think the idea of being able to make jewelry by grind of battlegrounds is magnificent. What they should also put are the golden talent and readjust the price of the plates since 200k + just for one is ridiculous.

@Sesomelia said:
Something is wrong in the Code of the installer, something has to be addressed....this has been an issue for players for what I can see in forums half a decade... soooo..what... no ones got an answer?

This launcher hasn't even existed that long, but of course there will always be some sort of launcher problem related to something or another. Search forums and you'll find launcher issues for every MMO going back years because it tends to be related to something specific about the computer or connection that's causing it.

I recommend to keep on working with support until the issue is fixed. Some people have suggested that some Windows Updates that were installed in this week's Windows 10 Patch Tuesday updates may be causing issues for some people. Haven't yet confirmed that this is the case, but it is possible. It could be these updates in combination with something else on the system, but who knows what.

I was told it must be my internet... yet I can play any of the 50 other games I have just fine...

A problem can happen due to routing that would mean you can connect to other servers but the launcher can't connect to the EME login server. I have seen that happen to people in the past, but it's not necessarily what's happening to you, particularly given that you can login to the forum.

Same problem Little Black window opens takes a few secs then all shuts down. I played 2 days then this started, I spent a few days trying so many things to fix it, talked with GM's and nothing worked, then I did a windows update and the computer reset....it started working again, I got to enjoy it for one hour then went to bed after shutting down.....the next day all pumped for play....I went to log on.. same thing was happening... while the computer was shut down something changed that made it not work..... soooo.. wth... does anyone have an actual fix for this Debacle?

I do enjoy this game and had planned on playing in in a Gaming binge ... as is, it's just taking up space... ALL other games from LoL to ESO and Riders of icarus work just fine. The Diagnostic says My port does not connect, everything else is green, I was told it must be my internet... yet I can play any of the 50 other games I have just fine...Something is wrong in the Code of the installer, something has to be addressed....this has been an issue for players for what I can see in forums half a decade... soooo..what... no ones got an answer?

We have decided on the following for compensation, which will be sent out to anyone who logs in from now until September 12 0700 UTC.
1x Adventure Coin 400
1x Adventure Coin 800
1x TERA Rewards Loot Box 3

edit: Once per account, not per server.

Um, I just got another set of compensation emails. Not sure if that was on purpose or a mistake, but Thanks!

To be fair, caimans are really great for leveling with their current pacing because you can rack up a decent amount of skill points while you're at it, EU event left people with lvl 70's that barely had any skill points which is almost useless for mains etc.
Everything else, yeah eme has been stingy af ever since gear revamp.

Also @Christin gameforge does both p2w and great events/normal ways of obtaining mats and balances them decently, even with all the events people in eu are whaling because the publisher is doing a decent job. It's all about balance. If people want to p2w their way to gear, sure, let them. If people want to freely grind for hours and hours on end by doing actual fun content, let them and give them options to do so. Really a hard concept for eme and their whiteknights it seems.

@Christin said:
At least the thread title clearly describes this thread, so good job OP.

It's not that people can't pay, they just don't want to pay. So, instead, they'll gripe about the loot boxes even existing in the first place, because heaven forbid someone out there is actually interested in paying for something.

I see all of these posts complaining about this or that, but then what? So you event your way to level 70 in a day or two, and then what? So you get HO+3 gear and fully upgraded accessories, but then what?

If you all got to level 70 and enchanting gear was easy, you'd be right in here complaining about how easy everything is. There are so many level 70 players now with fully upgraded everything to make me think it's really not as tough as everyone says it is.

They've dumped loads of talents into the economy from lootbox and other events. If they want to offer up solutions for the people that simply want to pay cash for stuff, good for them. They aren't a charity, and it's not their responsibility to make everything easy for people that refuse to pay for anything. If you don't want to pay, you surely don't have to but expect to grind. Last I checked EME is not a non-profit, so expect to see more lootboxes and more ways for people to throw their cash at the game. This game isn't focused on PVP, so them paying to gear up shouldn't really affect anyone else.

Shall we follow your own logic?
Was not aware Gameforge was non-profit.

At least the thread title clearly describes this thread, so good job OP.

It's not that people can't pay, they just don't want to pay. So, instead, they'll gripe about the loot boxes even existing in the first place, because heaven forbid someone out there is actually interested in paying for something.

I see all of these posts complaining about this or that, but then what? So you event your way to level 70 in a day or two, and then what? So you get HO+3 gear and fully upgraded accessories, but then what?

If you all got to level 70 and enchanting gear was easy, you'd be right in here complaining about how easy everything is. There are so many level 70 players now with fully upgraded everything to make me think it's really not as tough as everyone says it is.

They've dumped loads of talents into the economy from lootbox and other events. If they want to offer up solutions for the people that simply want to pay cash for stuff, good for them. They aren't a charity, and it's not their responsibility to make everything easy for people that refuse to pay for anything. If you don't want to pay, you surely don't have to but expect to grind. Last I checked EME is not a non-profit, so expect to see more lootboxes and more ways for people to throw their cash at the game. This game isn't focused on PVP, so them paying to gear up shouldn't really affect anyone else.

The caiman spawns from killing level 65 and up BAMs/monsters are not an event. It's simply part of the game, like the caiman from the life essence on IoD. You just kill the BAMs and each kill has a chance to spawn a caiman, and when you kill the caiman there's a chance for a portal to Azart Hatchery to spawn. So the raids/groups grinding BAMs are just grinding for caiman and portal spawns to get the xp and naga guard loot item

After the maintenance on the 10 Sept, there was a little Update that the launcher prompted me to do, and then, the game won't launch anymore getting this error fff0:0000. Tried everything from Repair to checking, validating, re-installed and ensuring Firewall or Anti Virus isn't blocking it. Still get the same error. Anyone else having this problem? The game was fine till the 10Sept! Sigh***

Well done and good research. Don't stress the reactions to and any future reactions about the whole race thing. People get way too touchy about it for no reason, and more to your point, he/she took it the wrong way. It's always nice looking into the names and lore in games to get a look into what the devs and creators of lore and the npcs took as inspiration. Work like this is very important. On another note, most of the posters in game are copy pastes of the same few. Either theres a few really really wanted Amani across both continents written in the same language on the same type of paper or it's copy paste.
I took the time to translate what I could and it turned out to be the same.

One thing you can try is running a repair through the options menu in the EME Launcher, which will hash check all your files and fix anything that's corrupt.

If not that, the most common cause for crashes after clicking play is typically either something to do with a mod, locked config files, or something like that. (Things that can't be fixed in a repair because they weren't done by the launcher/installer.)

If you're having trouble starting the launcher at all (like it goes to start but just disappears from the tray), the most common cause for that is either some sort of interference from a running VPN or an issue with antivirus or firewall software.

I'm actually unsure. I wanted to say Tier 10, since Tier 9 and 10 took that (temporary) XP nerf to be just equal to Tier 8, and Rox talked about wanting to do something nice for the affected people, but the discord post I saw that actually talked about keys only mentioned key bundle, not specifically the 100 keys.

@counterpoint
They also added a key bundle at T10 emporium too. Before now it was only rare and not-so-great cosmetics at that tier, so that's nice for T10 people too

There is a 15% cost discount on all of the key bundles from the rewards emporium however.

@J4M57397WA said:
defend them all you want to this is what they have done time and time again break content get rid of it replace with what they put together long down times for simple up dates over and over and over again getting old fire them.

We have decided on the following for compensation, which will be sent out to anyone who logs in from now until September 12 0700 UTC.
1x Adventure Coin 400
1x Adventure Coin 800
1x TERA Rewards Loot Box 3

edit: Once per account, not per server.

Quite the slap in the face with that compensation there. I guess only dungeon runners deserve to be compensated. Lets hope those reward boxes are at least something. Crossing fingers.

Now that I think about it, I don't think even dungeon runners would see that as much compensation as far as the Adventure Coins go.

No matter what they give as compensation, some people won't be happy. If you have suggestions on what should be given, by all means...

The TERA Rewards Loot Box gives a certain amount of TERA Reward Credits (probably enough to get some keys on the Emporium).

@J4M57397WA said:
defend them all you want to this is what they have done time and time again break content get rid of it replace with what they put together long down times for simple up dates over and over and over again getting old fire them.

We have decided on the following for compensation, which will be sent out to anyone who logs in from now until September 12 0700 UTC.
1x Adventure Coin 400
1x Adventure Coin 800
1x TERA Rewards Loot Box 3

edit: Once per account, not per server.

Quite the slap in the face with that compensation there. I guess only dungeon runners deserve to be compensated. Lets hope those reward boxes are at least something. Crossing fingers.

@UsagiFF said:
Why not send support tickets complaining about Shore Hold not restricting people with no pvp gear or pvp gear lower than +6?

This is an issue that should be solved for the devs and not using the kick system.

I'm not sure that support tickets will help, as they'll probably just send you to the forums or Discord since it's a feature suggestion. I do think it seems like a reasonable suggestion, though.

(But if they did add an ilvl style system for PvP queueing, I guess then the next question is if you to eventually be more strict on "kick abuse." But maybe one thing at a time, if they'd consider it.)

@Christin said:
1. Require the proper pvp gear. 2. Don't show pvp stats in the player's profile. 3. No pvp ranks on leaderboads. 4. Limiting the amount of kicks players can initiate each day. 5. Fix reporting system so people afking can be reported and banned from pvping. If they let people form their own parties, you'd have a totally OP party constantly winning. IMO not letting people party at all would be better. Make pvp fun like Kumas once was before they made all of the changes to it. Only reason they had to make it 5v5 was because they blocked level 65s from playing with lower levels.

Would love if they just made base or +3 default. Wouldn't want the PvP gear to be completely removed. Otherwise there would be no point on using it like that one time with Conflate(I think it was around this time?).

I'd be down with that. I don't check it anyways. I just go with the mentality of if you're someone I don't know and have the gear I ain't kicking you eve. If you're in PvE or have notice you just don't do anything or even try then I'm gonna click on Yes if someone initiates the vote. But hey I'm not everyone. Might be in the minority.

Also would be ok with loosing this tho I can see why some seek competition as it's their thrill in the game. I see this being a 50/50 good or bad thing.

Feels like that would get abused by people hoping on their alts to force others to use their kicks then BM on their mains. Though I feel the average TERA player wouldn't go that far.

Banning might be a bit too much. Maybe temporary suspension. Never know what's going on on their side.

Can you even que SH in party? Only thing I know that happens is sync ques.

Yeah, I just put the basics. Obviously, not many would support banning anyone from pvp for afking one or two games. Not sure the limits and such, just a general idea to fix the reporting system and ban anyone that is a habitual offender.

Maybe if the reporting feature was working properly and action taken, the kick feature could be removed. However, banning offenders is severely delayed, so even allowing people one kick a day would help. As we all know, people like to ruin stuff, so you'd always have that one player being afk or not following the rules etc. Only having the ban system would allow them to get away with stuff all day sometimes.

Yes, a numbers system would be so nice to. That way, people wouldn't be targeted outside of the game or flamed on global. Again, an in game reporting system would be good to go with that.

No, I wasn't saying PVP gear should be removed. I think requiring the proper minimum gear for each battleground is important. Obviously, gear wouldn't be an issue in most PVP games that equalize everyone. However, sometimes, the pvp gear is really important. Just an idea.

If it was unintentional, seeing as how this problem is still happening after it being out for so long, I'm guessing this is something they do not plan on changing. So the players have taken it upon themselves to find a "fix" for it.

Also kicking is also not used only for gear. Hate to keep bringing this up since I feel it should be obvious, but the reasoning for kicking are the same as for PvE.
Only difference is that you'll find more "elitism" in PvP since it's harder to carry a PvP match than a PvE dungeon.

@Christin said:
1. Require the proper pvp gear. 2. Don't show pvp stats in the player's profile. 3. No pvp ranks on leaderboads. 4. Limiting the amount of kicks players can initiate each day. 5. Fix reporting system so people afking can be reported and banned from pvping. If they let people form their own parties, you'd have a totally OP party constantly winning. IMO not letting people party at all would be better. Make pvp fun like Kumas once was before they made all of the changes to it. Only reason they had to make it 5v5 was because they blocked level 65s from playing with lower levels.

Would love if they just made base or +3 default. Wouldn't want the PvP gear to be completely removed. Otherwise there would be no point on using it like that one time with Conflate(I think it was around this time?).

I'd be down with that. I don't check it anyways. I just go with the mentality of if you're someone I don't know and have the gear I ain't kicking you eve. If you're in PvE or have notice you just don't do anything or even try then I'm gonna click on Yes if someone initiates the vote. But hey I'm not everyone. Might be in the minority.

Also would be ok with loosing this tho I can see why some seek competition as it's their thrill in the game. I see this being a 50/50 good or bad thing.

Feels like that would get abused by people hoping on their alts to force others to use their kicks then BM on their mains. Though I feel the average TERA player wouldn't go that far.

Banning might be a bit too much. Maybe temporary suspension. Never know what's going on on their side.

Can you even que SH in party? Only thing I know that happens is sync ques.

@Christin said:
1. Require the proper pvp gear. 2. Don't show pvp stats in the player's profile. 3. No pvp ranks on leaderboads. 4. Limiting the amount of kicks players can initiate each day. 5. Fix reporting system so people afking can be reported and banned from pvping. If they let people form their own parties, you'd have a totally OP party constantly winning. IMO not letting people party at all would be better. Make pvp fun like Kumas once was before they made all of the changes to it. Only reason they had to make it 5v5 was because they blocked level 65s from playing with lower levels.

They could apply the same as Gridiron. Change names for numbers in that match.

I still against kicks because that alone is a way players have been abusing on other BGs to force draws or win a match kicking a player to get their friend with them in the same team. All the most popular PvP games based on BGs dont allow kick players and they have their profesional competitions and players.

Point 1 should be a must. Poit 2 and 3 are needed for pvpers. Point 4 should be removed. Point 5 is a must.

PvP gear is needed on Shores. Otherwise even a healer can take you down.
Think of it as if going to a high level dungeon with Guardian gear.

Personally, I feel they should at least make the default gear 0 PvP gear or 3+ PvP gear when joining a Shore game since apparently getting a full set is hard even tho it is very cheap.

And if you show history of bringing the team down, I mean you're gonna get kicked even in PvE for that. Keep in mind that the TERA community isn't that big. It's easier to remember people.

I'm not denying that there are people that kick unfairly, but those requests are absurd. Not everyone is asking for the best, but they're not looking for someone that seeks to be carried. And to counter that you need gear(So you're not completely obliterated) + kicks(AFKs and/or Mavericks).

Life is filled with unexpected things that go wrong, delay us, etc. You can't control everything all you can do is accept the curve ball with grace and carry on. Did I want to play this afternoon...sure. Was I upset that I couldn't...nope not at all. Things happen.

you know if they "fire them" there will be no one to work on the game at all so then the game would just stay down and you couldnt play it ... and they are giving a compensation for how long its been down ... i mean they didnt even have to do that they could just say [filtered] U and keep it down longer

One issue i can see is this delay may screw Starc timing
if its a set time and not determined by server start time,thats ok
If its based on 6 hourly inteverals from when server starts,then itll throw timing out,mae maybe half available outside my on time,compared to just Kaitor one atm

We have decided on the following for compensation, which will be sent out to anyone who logs in (only once per server) from now until September 12 0700 UTC.
1x Adventure Coin 400
1x Adventure Coin 800
1x TERA Rewards Loot Box 3

Towards the end of my 5 yrs on Asherons call,these issues could reguarly take over 24 hrs to resolve....the longest from mem ,was over 72 hrs downtime

To show how fickle code can be
One of my guild members had the misfortune to NEVER get
'Superior" type loot drops from any bosses/critters
After a year of these we flagged it to the Devs....it took a DEV another 3 yrs of working thru all the code to find one little Error
This became such a well known issue,that it coined a phrase ,which yrs later was still being used by the gaming community in other games,and even made it to PCGamer mag
brain fog from my CFS ,nd i cant remeber the term ,go figure

so far ive walked my dogs twice x 1.5 miles or so
Vaccumed right thru my double house
Mowed the lawns and just finished lunch

thats because only the elitist players really run those during the bigger events and kick all the players that have certain names gear records ect most players prolly would like to do the pvp but who wants to waste time out of there day if they will get kicked criticised and whatever else lol

By the way, as a small update, thanks to Rox we were able to get some Brawler weapon skins added finally:

Black and Red Powerpulse Fists are finally back

Ruthless Powerfists Weapon Skin & Noctenite Powerfits

Regent's Powerfists & Darkened Powerfists

It's not a lot, but at least it's more than we had. (The only other few models I could find, as mentioned earlier, can't be used right now due to their properties. Maybe some day...)

Also, since we can't use any of the permanent reaper outfits, the 180-day versions were added now at half the price. I know it's not ideal, but at least it gives people a way. (If there can be a way to re-add the permanent versions at some point, that'd be great.)

@J4M57397WA said:
defend them all you want to this is what they have done time and time again break content get rid of it replace with what they put together long down times for simple up dates over and over and over again getting old fire them.

Honestly, you need to just calm down. As explained, this problem is neither simple nor routine, and firing anyone won't help at all. Just chill.

Require the proper pvp gear. 2. Don't show pvp stats in the player's profile. 3. No pvp ranks on leaderboads. 4. Limiting the amount of kicks players can initiate each day. 5. Fix reporting system so people afking can be reported and banned from pvping. If they let people form their own parties, you'd have a totally OP party constantly winning. IMO not letting people party at all would be better. Make pvp fun like Kumas once was before they made all of the changes to it. Only reason they had to make it 5v5 was because they blocked level 65s from playing with lower levels.