Groovy: D - I like that we opened it up all at one time. Texas first, then 727. Please we'd like a good call today. Hard hitting, direct questions.

Karen and Bob: d- as you enter Q&A, we want hard hitting questions

JerseyMike: D - I'm going to get down to the nitty gritty

dakotaman: D - Wanna have a good call, direct hard hitting questions

Groovy: D - let's talk somereal things today. Some of you aren't gonna like it, but...,,Read More Link on Right

JerseyMike: D - had coversation with good/bad/ugly. Nothing bad. Groovy: D - I didn't want to give my opinions today but maybe i will. JerseyMike: D -some question on timelines Groovy: Controversy on timelines Groovy: D - gary, email? Karen and Bob: d- gary, want to give email JerseyMike: D - we want some hard hitting direct questions Groovy: D - I like that we opened it up all at one time. Texas first, then 727. Please we'd like a good call today. Hard hitting, direct questions. Karen and Bob: d- as you enter Q&A, we want hard hitting questions JerseyMike: D - I'm going to get down to the nitty gritty dakotaman: D - Wanna have a good call, direct hard hitting questions Groovy: D - let's talk somereal things today. Some of you aren't gonna like it, but... Karen and Bob: d- willing to hear your beliefs & you'll get to hear mine JerseyMike: D - talking just befoe the call some of the mods. Was not going to state my opinions Karen and Bob: d- think about timeline we're in now dakotaman: D - My feeling or beliefs are diff on timeline Karen and Bob: d- we're still here JerseyMike: D - we've gone thru alot of last few years, but we're still here Groovy: D - I want to keep my opinons off the board, but Rana said we need facts. Dan says these are his feelings, don't know if they're facts. We;ve been here for years, still here. Have to look to what we know govts & banks are doing at this point in time. JerseyMike: D - need to look at Gov agencies & Banks Karen and Bob: d- have to look @ govt agencies, banks JerseyMike: D - Prez election right around the corner Groovy: D - If it doesn't happen soon, it won't happen before election. Karen and Bob: d- many have their own theories Groovy: D - Everyone's got their theories, but they're not going to mess thiss up weeks before. JerseyMike: D - if this goes past this week, I don't see them lets do the RV & make lots of millionaires, banks in a frenzy & elections right around the corner. dakotaman: D - We have an election coming up and if this comes up not to soon i doubt that it will happen before the elction. Groovy: D - not about obama getting credit, you just created millionaires , economy in panic, and we're going to hold election? Karen and Bob: d- whoever the big ppl are holding this, are still holding it JerseyMike: D - I'm thinking toards a future date Karen and Bob: d- I've been thinking of business things for future JerseyMike: D - my feeling is this week, but if not maybe after the election Groovy: D - If it goes past this week, it could be a week or 2 after election, December? Our economy speaks to different nations. Karen and Bob: d- if this goes past this week, then it may go a month or so out dakotaman: D - I have been thinking toward a furure date myself and that if it doesnt happen this week then probably not until after the election JerseyMike: D - either real soon or a moth or so out Groovy: G - I'll let Tony go first JerseyMike: G - let Tony go 1st Karen and Bob: g- going to let tony go first JerseyMike: G - 1 big issue: what are we seeing now? We're seeing action/lots of things happen ing Karen and Bob: g- what's the evidence, actions we're seeing roovy: G - one of the big issues we haven't adress is, what have we seen? what evidence? we're seeing action but it's not brining this thing to closure, just activity. JerseyMike: G - but it's not bring us to closure dakotaman: G - One issue we talked about is what are we seeing/ What we are seeing hasn't brought us where we need to be. Karen and Bob: g- banks all believing it's here JerseyMike: G - banks are believign we're here plus a lot of other folks JerseyMike: G - why all the delays? Groovy: G - are we seeing that things are being, do the banks think it's here & they get frustrated as anyone else? why all the delays? what's going on? Karen and Bob: g- have to ask ? JerseyMike: G - I can justified some of the delays JerseyMike: G - Dr Todd gave us more info Groovy: G - I can justify some of the delays, international setting & dynamics involving nations, got a healhy education about global funds, why are they being held off? Karen and Bob: g- was supposed to be paid out in 2008 JerseyMike: G - is there soemthing bigger going on that we don't know about? dakotaman: G -We did get an education from Dr Todd Global Funds delaying of thier paymenty etc Karen and Bob: g- raises bigger question about why it's being held off JerseyMike: G - my contacts saying if not completed here, it will negatively impact the elections Groovy: G - Is there something bigger going on that we're not aware of? People we're working with asking serious questions. If we don't see it complete, it'll negatively affect politics so they're saying it'll be held off til after election. JerseyMike: G - so might hold off til after the elections Karen and Bob: g- if we don't see it happening, a lot are thinking same as dan ... may be held off Groovy: G - we are seeing positive movement. dakotaman: G - I am hearing that we need to see this this week JerseyMike: T - all that is a bit of reality JerseyMike: T - I don't see it going to Nov Karen and Bob: t- I don't see it going to election JerseyMike: T - I know what the target dates were over there Groovy: T - I dont see it giong to the elections, my personal opinion. I kow what the target dates were. dakotaman: T - IMO I dont see it going to the election. JerseyMike: T - we're not going to the elections JerseyMike: T - if RV or not, not enough time for #'s to hit to influence the election Karen and Bob: t- election doesn't matter ... not enough time for numbers to hit to affect the election JerseyMike: T - none of that applies to this admin Groovy: T - Whether or not it happens is not enough time to influence the election one way or another, jobs created , deficit cut, etc. This is all future things for the next administration, who ever it is. JerseyMike: T - I think they don't want it to go to the election dakotaman: T - the rational on election is its to close to have enought ime for the RV happening to benefit from it happening or not happening Karen and Bob: t- my thought is that it wldn't go to election Groovy: T - They wouldn't want it going to the next election. Karen and Bob: t- won't reflect well on O for delay JerseyMike: T - next admin might delay so they get to review all the back-door deals, etc.... Groovy: T - now it's a global event, will we have to go through all this again if we have to wait for a new administration to go through the back door agreements et al. JerseyMike: T - that's the reason for not going into the next admin whomever they are JerseyMike: T - 1st target date was 1-Sept Groovy: T - first target date was 1 Sept. JerseyMike: T - 2nd date we're cmoing up on Groovy: T - secondary date we're coming up on. JerseyMike: T - our group from DC went over there to confirm Karen and Bob: t- votes taken in parliament Groovy: T - that's why our group went there from washingtn, why votes taken in parliament today & yestereday even tho they're not offcicially back. JerseyMike: T - we should hear about GOI/Ministers/ertc... this week Groovy: T - they're trying to meet the secondary date. Karen and Bob: t- looking to me like they're trying to make 2nd date. Groovy: D - I'm ot disagreeing just to disagree. Groovy: *not JerseyMike: D - I'm disagreeing...kind of dakotaman: T - Everything looks to me like that they are trying to make the secondary date Karen and Bob: d- were able to listen to dr.todd last week Groovy: D - the history report (Dr. Todd) It no longer becomes opinon. He lived it. JerseyMike: D - Dr Todd history report, when he talks it's not just his opinion. He lived it. Groovy: D - experience, age, savvy, he rivals most peeps we talk to Karen and Bob: d- he's had experience in this dakotaman: D - Dr Todd has experience age and wisdom Groovy: D - respected bank peeps not coming on here JerseyMike: D - some oterh like international bankers are also good sources for us...saying the same thing. It's been a plan for decades. Groovy: D - this has been a plan for decades. Karen and Bob: d- all are saying this has been plan for decades, not just few years dakotaman: D - this has been planned for decades Groovy: D - this has been a plan to fix the monetary system long time ago. JerseyMike: D - this has been a plan to how to fix the system by the PTB Karen and Bob: d- plan on how to fix the monetary mess they made a long time ago Groovy: D - Iraq was not the first focus. JerseyMike: D - this was a very serious plan of action Groovy: D - serious plan of action. Since the first action, this is the plan. dakotaman: D - this is a very serious plan of action JerseyMike: D - now we're analogizing this to see what makes sense Groovy: D - Things need to be looked at.What makes sense? Karen and Bob: d- things now need to be looked at JerseyMike: D - it doesn't make sense to delay any further dakotaman: D - doesnt make sense going into an governmental election JerseyMike: D - & we're seeing some things cracking Karen and Bob: d- we're hearing things are cracking (happening) Groovy: D - election doesnt 'make sense, hold banks down, doesn't make sense. Were they trying to break the spirit of the banks? JerseyMike: D - we're the PTB trying to break the banks spirits? Groovy: D - are they trying to crack them or break them? JerseyMike: D - we're waiting to see what the reason for the hold up is? Karen and Bob: d- what's the reason for the holdup dakotaman: D - Whats the reason for the hold up? Groovy: D - The hold up is happening. If all of a sudden they make decision to let it go, everyone wanted it to go for a long time, but no one had the ability. JerseyMike: D - maybe they just don't know how to get along. JerseyMike: D - or they're waiting for things to break before they fix it Groovy: D - other theory is they're waiting for something, waiting for something to BREAK before they fix it. JerseyMike: D - these are just our thoughts dakotaman: D - mabe they are waiting for something to break before they can fix it Groovy: D - Dr Todd gave us facts that we couldn't say; we weren't there. JerseyMike: D - Dr Todd gave us some facts the otehr day that we coul;dn JerseyMike: could not JerseyMike: Q&A started dakotaman: 214 JerseyMike: C - VP of Iraq issues death sentence Karen and Bob: c- dallas morning news, front page Groovy: C Dallas front page Iraq death sentence JerseyMike: C - "issued" Karen and Bob: c- what are your feelings JerseyMike: C - what's this all about? JerseyMike: C - does this affect the RV? Groovy: C - they're accusing M's administration of ...? JerseyMike: T - this has been going on for ~1yr dakotaman: T - you guys gonna say anthing? Karen and Bob: t- this has been going on for cpl months JerseyMike: T - I did get the call when it was annc'd dakotaman: GD No JerseyMike: T - he's in Turkey & he won't leave Karen and Bob: t- he's over in turkey. has 30 days to appeal Groovy: T - He's in Turkey, they're not going to turn him over, he has 30 days to get it overturned. I am hoping it's the distracton everyone is looking for. JerseyMike: T - I was hoping this was the distraction we've been waiting for dakotaman: T - this has been going on for over a year, he has already appeaeled JerseyMike: T - the guy's being protected Groovy: T - the guy's being protected by US ally JerseyMike: T - if they wanted it to be anotehr way, it would have been. Karen and Bob: t- turkey wld have released him JerseyMike: T - don't think it will affect the RV dakotaman: T - I was hoping this was a distraction. He is being protected by an ally. JerseyMike: T - just a nego to get the power sharing deal done. Groovy: T - It's all part of the plan, shouldn't affect the rv. Part of power-sharing agreement. should see more on that this week. dakotaman: T - I do not feel it will affect the RV Karen and Bob: c- so you're hearing power sharing agreement may be completed? Karen and Bob: t- yes JerseyMike: T - I'm hearing power sharing deal will be done. Kurds gave extention to the 15th Groovy: T Kurds gave ext to the 15th for things to happen. everyone's shooting for that. dakotaman: T - remember the Kurds extended to the 15th JerseyMike: T - some votes taken, formal one tomorrow, anncmt on Wed JerseyMike: C - thanks for Dr Todd's info, full history of the deal. dakotaman: C - hats off to Dr Todds info Karen and Bob: c- hats off to you guys for the call with Dr. Todd Groovy: C - all the guys I thought were wearing aluminum hats (WGS) weren't so crazy afterall. Karen and Bob: t- GS had nothing to do with RV JerseyMike: T - Global settlements had nothign to do with the RV JerseyMike: T - RV had to happen before hand Karen and Bob: t- without the RV , there's no paying of the GS JerseyMike: T - GS & PP are 2 separate things dakotaman: T - gloabal settlements had nothing to do with RV, Rv had to do with Global settlements Groovy: T - He said it already happened to pay the settlements. WGS & PP are 2 separate things. JerseyMike: T - GS are between countires & goiv's from 50 yrs ago JerseyMike: T - RV is from 10yrs ago Groovy: T - this rv didn't start unti 10 years ago. WGS started 40 yrs. Karen and Bob: t- GS were from 50 yrs ago, RV from 10 yrs ago JersyMike: C - I thought GS & PP were the same Karen and Bob: c- I combined GS & PP into one word/item Groovy: C - Multiple words for same movements? Thanks for clearing it up that they are 2 different things. JerseyMike: C - opened my eyes to what Gov's can do without us knowing Groovy: T - I agree that's what makes it great. Things are happening you don't want to know about. JerseyMike: T - that's right. things happen that we don't know about & we don't want to know Groov: T - I got a call afterwards, isn't he going to get in trouble? Karen and Bob: t- some of that isn't supposed to be out Karen and Bob: t- was a great history lesson JerseyMike: T - I got calls afterwards that some folks were worried about Dr Todd giving too much info dakotaman: T - I agree that what made that call so great, I wanderecd if he might get in trouble but its been 50 years Groovy: D - let's get down to questions, discussions, move forward. JerseyMike: D - we need to restrict callers to just questions & then moving forward JerseyMike: D - lots of folks in the queue dakotaman: D - Lets move this along Groovy: D - we don't want to disrespect those who are waiting. JerseyMike: D - Caller Tom thanks for your comments Karen and Bob: 727 JerseyMike: C - Tnoy question: Dr Todd said banks to get ~ $10, public ~$5 dakotaman: C - 2 ?'s T and D JerseyMike: C - our job is to try to get higher than 5 Groovy: C - Banks should get around 10, public $5, so it's up to us to negotiate the diff betw 5 & 10? Dan, with world wanting us to have less power, is it possible that us banks collapse, should we not have iqd in bank safe deposit boxes? erseyMike: C - Dan question: is it possible if this goes too long & banks collapse, what happens to IQD in Safety boxes in the banks? Karen and Bob: the guys wanted to answer each others ? Groovy: T - Dr Todd's rates were a window where he thought it would come out for you. JerseyMike: T - not what you can nego afterwards JerseyMike: T - banks have set a limited amt that can be nego's Karen and Bob: t- limited amount will be negotiable Groovy: T - you still have to negotiate JerseyMike: T - China wanted to get away from USD JerseyMike: C - they want yuan to be base dollar dakotaman: T - Dr Todds rates were what he thought the tier two and tier three rates but not the negoitable rates Groovy: T - bank collapse = everyone leaves dollar JerseyMike: T - do you think the US want the banks to fail? JerseyMike: D - not sure I agree with Tier 1 & 2 JerseyMike: D - I want to see what that really means Groovy: D - I want to see if there is a tier 1 and what they get. JerseyMike: D - never heard about the elite before like we supposedly are now dakotaman: D - I agree with most everything but the tier policy Karen and Bob: d- more internet exposure now JerseyMike: D - we probably know more about them than what we're suppose to Groovy: D - They're being exposed b/c of the internet. We know more than we're supposed to, but I don't know that tier 1 is as weak as we're hearing, that they can't cover anything up any more. dakotaman: D - normally we do not know what tier one ppl are or do JerseyMike: D - don't know if Tier 1 folks have bcome as weak as we think they have Karen and Bob: d- don't know that tier 1 ppl have become as weak as we're hearing JerseyMike: D - bank thing, please don't try to nego now.Link to Part 2