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07-23-2012 04:16 PM

LATECH

Youre welcome...

07-22-2012 08:44 PM

83 cutlass

Thanks to your great help i decided to open the carb up only to find you were correct the adjustment screw was 2 full turns below what the chiltons book specified no thanks 2 national carbuertor sometimes your better off to do it yourself ehh? I did also discover i may have a blown head gasket on one side due to the factho t i just put new plugs in the thing even though the previous owner had sworn hed put new plugs in well in my search to find answers i discovered that cylinder 5 has some pitting on it around the base is this a for sure sign or could this be from bad valve guides some sort of oil seepage it wasa little bit of white ash on the very tip thanks again latech

07-22-2012 02:33 PM

LATECH

No. float adjustment as well as most of the others are made with carb opened up. Fine tuning can be done by accessing adjusters through some of the holes in the carb.
Have you checked the base tining?

07-22-2012 02:24 PM

83 cutlass

It shows code 33 when unhooked so i would say it works is the float adjustments made on top of choke tower or that the metering rods

07-22-2012 01:56 PM

LATECH

Quote:

Originally Posted by 83 cutlass

I found the map sensor its on air cleaner the tubing looks good my question is how to check it

If its hooked up, and in place, plugged in and all, its probably OK.
You could check for trouble codes. If it has a problem it will display a code 33.
You can, if you want, unplug it while the engine is running. It should make it run worse. That would indicate that it is probably working.
just remember unplugging it while running will set a code 33.
Look here for more info on T codes.http://www.troublecodes.net/GM/
Good info ....may help

07-22-2012 01:47 PM

83 cutlass

Also how do yoh adjust the float in the carb not sure about this setup i may just go vacuum advanced and 450 cfm 4 barrel with mechanic secondaries

07-22-2012 01:43 PM

83 cutlass

I found the map sensor its on air cleaner the tubing looks good my question is how to check it

07-22-2012 01:32 PM

LATECH

Youre welcome. Good luck.

07-22-2012 01:32 PM

83 cutlass

Will check into that in a few moments rockauto does show one with an electrical socket
I appreciate the ideas latech

07-22-2012 01:20 PM

LATECH

It could be built into the Computer.
Look athe wiring harness for the engine sensors. There could be a tiny vacuum hose in it. That will go to the computer as the sensor could be built in. Those early years were a formative bunch for GM as they didnt have it all together, so it can be a guessing game.
Most of the time the sensor is underhood.Many years they were mounted on the air cleaner housing

07-22-2012 01:14 PM

83 cutlass

I personally did not rebuild the carb i sent it out to be rebuilt i did make the final adjustment also im confused on the map sensor ive been to ld this engine doesnt have one by my local parts stores

07-22-2012 12:44 PM

LATECH

Quote:

Originally Posted by 83 cutlass

It flashes 13 twice then no longer flashes until car is restared ive never seen this before also after flashing stops carb clicks heavily for a few seconds and stops until throttle is reopened could tps be bad also fast idle for ac i dont believe is functioning my ac doesnt funtion anyway but im at a loss on ths carb was proffesionally rebuilt by national carbs supposedly live engine tuned i believe its carb i dont think it ignition because revs fine out of gear in gear it fa
lls flat on face

Code 13 is an oxygen sensor problem, either the sensor or the wiring to it.
The carb will"click" for about 30 seconds when first turning on the key. It is normal. It is the Mixture solenoid cycling on and off.The computer is doing that, it helps engine on start up.
Vacuum hoses arent going to cause your problem, unless they are leaking. Plugging them wont change much.
The MAP sensor though, ...has to have manifold vacuum, and if it is unhooked the car will run rich and without much timing.
Check the MAP sensor to be sure it is hooked up.
Plug the EGR hose for the time being to eliminate it from the loop.
Verify base timing.
I have a hunch the float level may be too low also. How did you set it?

07-22-2012 12:15 PM

83 cutlass

It flashes 13 twice then no longer flashes until car is restared ive never seen this before also after flashing stops carb clicks heavily for a few seconds and stops until throttle is reopened could tps be bad also fast idle for ac i dont believe is functioning my ac doesnt funtion anyway but im at a loss on ths carb was proffesionally rebuilt by national carbs supposedly live engine tuned i believe its carb i dont think it ignition because revs fine out of gear in gear it fa
lls flat on face

07-21-2012 08:43 PM

LATECH

What code does it flash?

07-21-2012 04:40 PM

83 cutlass

Also its throttle response worsens after thermostat opens

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