Ziner wrote:300 days of sun out here in Denver, take that Pensacola and Ohio!

Certainly dont miss the dark and rainy days of the midwest.

310 days here. Although it's dry and dusty all of the time. I'd take Denver any day, except maybe when it's 65 degrees in January

Yeah, but the winters here arent nearly as bad as people make them out to be. The mountains get most of the snow and we just get a few big storms (or so I hear, havent experienced it myself). I do know that when the sun is shining you arent cold. Came here to search for an apartment in March and it was 22 degrees and we had the windows down because the sun makes it so hot. Its really strange.

This is unseasonably cool and rainy for this time of year. Usually, September and the first few weeks of October represent the best weather we see all year in northern Ohio.

It's usually sunny, temps in the 60s-70s, and there is still enough usable daylight in the evenings to enjoy it. Weather like what we've been seeing this week is the kind of seasonal affective disorder crap that normally comes along in November.

When it's 8 a.m. and still dark enough to be 6 a.m. thanks to a thick covering of rain clouds, I have a really hard time getting going in the morning.

Papa Cass wrote:This is unseasonably cool and rainy for this time of year. Usually, September and the first few weeks of October represent the best weather we see all year in northern Ohio.

It's usually sunny, temps in the 60s-70s, and there is still enough usable daylight in the evenings to enjoy it. Weather like what we've been seeing this week is the kind of seasonal affective disorder crap that normally comes along in November.

When it's 8 a.m. and still dark enough to be 6 a.m. thanks to a thick covering of rain clouds, I have a really hard time getting going in the morning.

Exactly, which is why I am so bothered by it, b/c I go through S.A.D. Not ready for it to kick in this early.

Run with that Peeker.

Criminals in this town used to believe in things...honor, respect."I heard your dog is sick, so bought you this shovel"

HermanFontenot wrote:This weather would be perfect if it wasn't for all the goddamned rain. Yesterday was beautiful. I despise hot weather, anything over 85 is unbearable.

Yeah i'm on the "hate the heat" train. I don't mind the grey skies, I actually kind of like them, especially in the fall. The cold rain does suck though.

We all know since it was a mild summer we're gonna get crushed this winter. The last two times we had summer's like this, 93 and and the summer of 76. Which was followed by the blizzard of 77, I wasn't born but my parents and grand parents used to talk about it alot. "Snow 10 feet high, wind blowing 50 mph, temps in the -20 range" not sure if that's exagerated or not, some of you old timers school us youngsters.

Ziner wrote:300 days of sun out here in Denver, take that Pensacola and Ohio!

Certainly dont miss the dark and rainy days of the midwest.

310 days here. Although it's dry and dusty all of the time. I'd take Denver any day, except maybe when it's 65 degrees in January

Yeah, but the winters here arent nearly as bad as people make them out to be. The mountains get most of the snow and we just get a few big storms (or so I hear, havent experienced it myself). I do know that when the sun is shining you arent cold. Came here to search for an apartment in March and it was 22 degrees and we had the windows down because the sun makes it so hot. Its really strange.

I always wanted to give that region a try...who knows after a couple more Cat 3 or 4's....

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Yeah i'm on the "hate the heat" train. I don't mind the grey skies, I actually kind of like them, especially in the fall. The cold rain does suck though.

We all know since it was a mild summer we're gonna get crushed this winter. The last two times we had summer's like this, 93 and and the summer of 76. Which was followed by the blizzard of 77, I wasn't born but my parents and grand parents used to talk about it alot. "Snow 10 feet high, wind blowing 50 mph, temps in the -20 range" not sure if that's exagerated or not, some of you old timers school us youngsters.

Summer of 2000 was like this too. I think there was one day that summer where the temps went over 90. I can't recall what the winter of 2000-01 was like, though.

OK seriously this fall sucks ass. Worst start to fall ever around here. Rain on what 12 of the 17 days? Totally ruining what might be the best season in NEO, not to be confused with another season right now.

Criminals in this town used to believe in things...honor, respect."I heard your dog is sick, so bought you this shovel"

Cold, rainy weather is the worst. Give me 80F (26C) in the day and 60 (15C) in the night. As I get older I have noticed that I prefer a little cooler teperatures. I hope all are bearing up well as it has been terrible in North East Ohio.

To cheer every one up here is a lame attempt at humor:

Random thoughts from a deliberate mind.

•The wheel – The best thing BEFORE sliced bread.

•What’s so great about sliced bread?

•If you are sick, at least you have your health… umm never mind.

•Why is it called a forecast if it is for 5 days?

•What is the day after 2 straight days of rain? ANY day.

•Why is the weather man on TV called a meteorologist - instead of a no good stinking liar?

•If Will Rogers never met a man he didn’t like he either didn’t try very hard, didn’t get out much or never met a politician.

•If 3 strikes are called an out in baseball and a turkey in bowling what are 3 lightening strikes called? Really bad luck.

•Maybe it’s me but I get a little uncomfortable when my Doctor talks about “practicing” medicine.

•Is the completion of a luncheon call a dungeon?

•If there are 24 hours in day, 7 days in a week and 52 weeks in a year why is there always one on every crowd?

•What do you call a guy who hits a little white ball and chases after it in the woods? Rich.

•If someone who has a positive outlook is called an optimist and a person who has a negative outlook is called a pessimist, why don’t you call someone who has a neutral outlook a Swissimist?

•If diamonds are a girl’s best friend and dog is man’s best friend what does that say about the man?

•I believe that if a baseball pitcher has a complete game it can be called a 9 inning outing.

•All’s well that ends well. Using that logic you could be confined to a bed your whole life, be miraculously cured, step out into traffic, get killed by a car and your heirs win a million dollar lawsuit. Aw, it sure is a shame about Jimmy but we did win that lawsuit so “all’s well that ends well”.

Dont mean to rub it in... ahhh, who am I kidding, to rub it in, yesterday I hit up Arapahoe Basin for some morning skiing and then proceeded to go play 18 in the afternoon. Perfect day, could only be improved by managing to fit in some casino time in between. I dont know if I can ever leave Colorado

Rain finally stopped yesterday after about 2 weeks straight. I thought I was in 'nam for a bit. But yesterday was a high of 71, sunny and breezy. Got into the high 50's last night, and the outlook seems to be the same until the middle of the week. It's great outside right now.

"Dammit you piss me off. I f#ckin hate you and I hope you f#cking get killed by a rabid polar bear you douche bag."

Ziner wrote:Dont mean to rub it in... ahhh, who am I kidding, to rub it in, yesterday I hit up Arapahoe Basin for some morning skiing and then proceeded to go play 18 in the afternoon. Perfect day, could only be improved by managing to fit in some casino time in between. I dont know if I can ever leave Colorado

Forbes.com on Friday named Cleveland as "America's Worst Winter Weather City," in a ranking of the top 50 metropolitan areas by population. (If only Buffalo could bring in more people, surely we could lose this ignominious label).

I know more about pizza than you. Much more in fact. - Cerebral_DownTime

No need to start another weather thread, but I thought this was topical given the recent (and customary) weather panic...

"At least the Scots didn't have to tune in with the rest of the country and watch their women get plowed by Longshanks and his men."~Commodore Perry on the difference between baseball's flawed economics : Indians :: prima nocta : Scots

IMHO, Cleveland winters aren't that bad in terms of the cold, or snowstorms (east-side snowbelt aside).

The big problem is that it's so freaking dark for months thanks to cloud cover. After moving to Boston, the biggest winter surprise was needing sunglasses after a snow storm.

You hit the nail on the head there. I've read it several times in several places that NE Ohio is the gloomiest part of the USA and one of the gloomiest parts of the world in Winter.

It isn't just that it gets cold, it's the constant cloud cover.

As for freaking out over the weather, I studied weather in college a bit, and the theory I ended up finding the most credible evidence for had to do with cyclical weather patterns and sunspot cycles. History has shown there are 25-35 year weather cycles where it gets warmer and colder depending on the phase. The US entered a cold cycle from the end of WWII until the late 70s.

The subsequent warming CYCLE (ALSO known as Global Warming) then got a double whammy from increased sunspot activity that began in the mid 1990s that began tapering off a few years ago. Increased sunspot activity means the sun gets warmer, therefore if the sun gets warmer, the Earth gets warmer and there isn't anything species Homo Sapiens can do about it.

So take my theory for what it is, tell the Global Warming people (who now have mysteriously changed their mindset and moniker to "Climate Change") to shove it up their keysters, and prepare for colder, snowy winters in NE Ohio for the next couple of decades.

justmebd wrote:The subsequent warming CYCLE (ALSO known as Global Warming) then got a double whammy from increased sunspot activity that began in the mid 1990s that began tapering off a few years ago. Increased sunspot activity means the sun gets warmer, therefore if the sun gets warmer, the Earth gets warmer and there isn't anything species Homo Sapiens can do about it.

This is a load of shit. Try reading a bit more.

http://rspa.royalsocietypublishing.org/ ... 7.abstractThe conclusions of our previous paper, that solar forcing has declined over the past 20 years while surface air temperatures have continued to rise, are shown to apply for the full range of potential time constants for the climate response to the variations in the solar forcings.

Here's the real driving force behind our current weather (please don't confuse weather and climate). Same reason we had a mild hurricane season. Same reason the Mid-Atlantic is getting hammered by Nor' Easters, same reason they need to truck snow to Vancouver for the winter games.

It's not a load of shit. If you want to tell me greenhouse gases and pollution, etc., exascerbated the last warming cycle, fine, I won't argue with you.

The core argument, though, is still sound as far as I'm concerned. And that's as far as I'm taking this because all we'll do is go back and forth and call each other names and I'm not interested in any of that. We can just agree to disagree on the finer points.

justmebd wrote:It's not a load of shit. If you want to tell me greenhouse gases and pollution, etc., exascerbated the last warming cycle, fine, I won't argue with you.

The core argument, though, is still sound as far as I'm concerned. And that's as far as I'm taking this because all we'll do is go back and forth and call each other names and I'm not interested in any of that. We can just agree to disagree on the finer points.

Well, how could anyone quibble with someone who took Meteo 101 in college?

I know more about pizza than you. Much more in fact. - Cerebral_DownTime

justmebd wrote:It's not a load of shit. If you want to tell me greenhouse gases and pollution, etc., exascerbated the last warming cycle, fine, I won't argue with you.

The core argument, though, is still sound as far as I'm concerned. And that's as far as I'm taking this because all we'll do is go back and forth and call each other names and I'm not interested in any of that. We can just agree to disagree on the finer points.

Well, how could anyone quibble with someone who took Meteo 101 in college?

Hi Oktane wrote:No need to start another weather thread, but I thought this was topical given the recent (and customary) weather panic...

It's as if Bruce Drennan became a meteorologist. I half-expected this guy to start fielding calls asking if Mother Nature might trade the snowstorm and a lottery-protected hailstorm in 2011 for Antawn Jamison.

Hi Oktane wrote:No need to start another weather thread, but I thought this was topical given the recent (and customary) weather panic...

Is he related to Dan Hawkins?

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

False: The warming trend is a result of sunspots- as you can see in the above link, and the paper I linked previously, solar forcing is down, global temperature is up- http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/

False: Colder winters in NE Ohio for nearly 3 decades because of sunspots.

True: every asshole who says "There's 20" of global warming on my front porch" is a hump

This in not my opinion. This is not debatable information. It's the fucking temperature. It's recorded, interpreted and forecasted weather changes as a result of a huge pool of warm water migrating across the equatorial Pacific, disrupting wind, moisture patterns and jet streams. Why was there a foot of snow in Virginia Beach last week? Why is there 30" of snow in DC/ Baltimore. Why is there no snow for the winter olympics? Because of El Nino. This is not a surprise, it was forecasted months ago. I posted that link previously as well. If you hear any person, weatherman or otherwise, tell you anything different, they are full of shit. In fact, if you want to get real technical, the recent increased sea surface temperatures (probably as a result of increased global temperatures) will add to the size and power of the El Nino and increase the shifts in temperature. That's right, warm water in the Pacific can drop temperatures on the East coast of the U.S. I know, it's fucking insane. Wait until western Europe drops back into an ice age. I can't wait to hear every dickwad with a blog, screaming from the mountain tops that Al Gore is a liar.

You want to argue the finer points of the governments role in legislating laws, fine. You want to argue the finer points of the economic impacts of said legislation, fine. You want to argue the finer points of the solutions used to help fix the problem, fine. But don't tell me we agree to disagree about completely false information, as that would imply that I'm a hump. And on this, I am not.

Someone come shovel this 19 inches of snow off my deck, i'm looking at you Al Gore. Or are you too busy tracking down that insidious Manbearpig?

Man..I used to watch that show back when I was a kid.

What a crock of shit that was.

Like literally the villians either got off on pollution or needed it to stay alive. How the hell does that make any logical sense? I recall Stan Van Gundy and RichRod's wife were the villians on that heap of crap for some reason.

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

Triple-S wrote:Like literally the villians either got off on pollution or needed it to stay alive. How the hell does that make any logical sense? I recall Stan Van Gundy and RichRod's wife were the villians on that heap of crap for some reason.

Triple-S wrote:This in not my opinion. This is not debatable information. It's the fucking temperature. It's recorded, interpreted and forecasted weather changes as a result of a huge pool of warm water migrating across the equatorial Pacific, disrupting wind, moisture patterns and jet streams. Why was there a foot of snow in Virginia Beach last week? Why is there 30" of snow in DC/ Baltimore. Why is there no snow for the winter olympics? Because of El Nino. This is not a surprise, it was forecasted months ago. I posted that link previously as well. If you hear any person, weatherman or otherwise, tell you anything different, they are full of shit. In fact, if you want to get real technical, the recent increased sea surface temperatures (probably as a result of increased global temperatures) will add to the size and power of the El Nino and increase the shifts in temperature. That's right, warm water in the Pacific can drop temperatures on the East coast of the U.S. I know, it's fucking insane. Wait until western Europe drops back into an ice age. I can't wait to hear every dickwad with a blog, screaming from the mountain tops that Al Gore is a liar.

Its true that DC has now broken the record for amount of snow in a winter.

Of course, the record was set back in 1898. Global warming must have been in full effect back then too.

http://rspa.royalsocietypublishing.org/ ... 7.abstractThe conclusions of our previous paper, that solar forcing has declined over the past 20 years while surface air temperatures have continued to rise, are shown to apply for the full range of potential time constants for the climate response to the variations in the solar forcings.