Monday’s Giants lineup

I’m back, and so is Gregor Blanco. Third start in a row for the White Shark, giving him eight starts in the month of May. He has a .400 on-base percentage this month and is second — behind Melky Cabrera — with six runs.

Blanco RF
Arias 3B
Cabrera LF
Posey C
Pagan CF
Pill 1B
Culberson 2B
Crawford SS
Vogelsong RHP
— No Belt. We won’t speak to Bochy for about an hour, but I’m guessing that Belt’s power outage is a bigger issue than lefty-lefty matchups at this point. I wrote about Belt the left-handed pitcher last week and realized that I never even included the best part: Twitter follower @SFBleacherGirl sent me an article that shows Belt rated higher than Clayton Kershaw.

I agree with sitting Belt until he can tap back into his power that he’s obviously lost. I have no issues with this lineup. Lets see what the young bucks can do!

Bmad

Pagan over Pill in the 5 hole is a little weird.

JohnM

Time to step on the rockies throats while they’re down. Go Giants!

Papa J

What do the Rockies, Pirates & Mets have in common?

They’re the only teams to lose a series opener to the Giants in 2012. Yup. Our boys are 3 for 11 in series openers (including six straight losses), which examines why they’ve already worn us all out already. It’s pretty exhausting to root for a team thats almost always digging itself out of a hole.

Time to turn that trend around.

Papa J

Sorry for the fat fingered iSpelling.

Explains, not examines (post #5)

Thanks Rowand

dare i say it…bochy settling in on a somewhat regular lineup??

Keep Posey and Sanchez limited to C
Keep Belt and Pill limited to 1B
Craw is the regular SS, Arias the regular 3B
Cabrera/Blanco/Pagan are regulars
Culberson gets a chance to show what hes got for awhile

Schierholtz, Huff, Burris are everyday bench players

would like to see this continue

jjbiggs

I think Pagan and Blanco should be batting 1 & 2. Get that speed and OBP up front. In May, Pagan has put away his power and has batting more for average. His OBP in May sits at .362 with 4 steals (caught zero), with only 2 extra base hits in 45 ABs. Why he’s batting 5th ahead of Pill is beyond me.

jjbiggs

To add to my last comment, Arias has slowed down considerably after his quick start. He’s batting under .200 in his last 10 games and it looks like opposing scouting has caught up to him. The two spot? I’d push him down to 7 or 8.

G-man

Like the lineup. Belt hasn’t proved himself yet to deserve to be in there.

Samuel

Great point jj. Pagan is known for bad Aprils throughout his career.

http://thewisdomcow.blogspot.com/ The Wisdom Cow

It certainly shows symptoms of a set lineup, though, there has been big turnover on it’s face (given personnel changes, the C change and such).

This one works for me. If Bochy sticks with Arias at 2 for a while, I’ll be please. I don’t like the Belt/Pill platoon, but if they both hit from the 6 spot, it doesn’t mess with LU consistency per the other players.

I really like the 1, 3-5, spots, especially as it should become 1, 3-6 when Pablo returns, hopefully into the 4 spot.

While I’d like to see Belt get some time in the 2 to see if it helps him, I hope Bochy sticks with Arias there more so, to see if he can take the role. He’s looking destined to be getting significant MI time after Pablo returns (probably some 3B reps too, to rest the Panda), so it’d make sense, IMO, to give him consistency in the order, at least.

http://Giantsextra Mo

Blanco did well offensively. Still you have to look at his defense. He cannot cover rt field very well and his arm Is marginal at best. He had two throws to the plate against the backs and didn’t even come close to getting the runner. Both of his throws were arched and off target. I think Nate should get more opportunities again in right field. Blanco has been a great boost for the offense lately but nobody mentioned that Nate would have probably got both runners at the plate and would have cut the ball off before it got to the fence when blanco dove for a ball he was no where near. When they say the giants have their best defensive team on the field, it not true without Nate in rt field.

pacman68

FOR ALL THE BELTRAN LOVERS.

IT’S STARTING AGAIN.

Carlos Beltran is out of tonight’s lineup not just because of rest, but b/c his right knee is “barking.”

Stevo

Guess we will never know if Belt can be an everyday player. Bochy is determined to make him a platoon player. If he wouldn’t play Belt yesterday versus Saunders against whom he is 3-4 lifetime after he had tripled off a lefty the day before he will never play him against a lefty.

http://thewisdomcow.blogspot.com/ The Wisdom Cow

Mo, on many balls, Nate is better, sure, but blanco can get to some balls that Nate cannot.

Overall, it’s far more important, IMO, that the four OFs play the OF, not the IF/OF guys that lack range. Nate is the top RF in my book, but the drop off is not nearly as big as with the non-OFers out there.

I also agree with the building consensus that Posey should only catch. This way he gets real rest when Sanchez catches and he can focus on playing the one position providing consistency. We have enough 1st basemen and Posey doesn’t need to be in the mix especially if he’s not hitting. Plus, it gives Belt and Pill more playing time.

I hope Bochy feels the same way.

http://3renfrews@comcast.net robin

Nate is old news. He has had every opportunity to take the staring job and has not done it. Period. Belt is a classic over rated Randy Elliot kind of talent. Looks great at Triple and he should go back down so he can play everyday. He is not the answer unless the question is What high rated rookie shows no passion or energy in his everyday at bats and overall appearance ?

rayoflight

I think Bochy at this point has officially wrecked Brandon Belt. Congratulations Bruce: You took a young talent UNIVERSALLY thought to be a bigtime player and you just broke him.

Brandon Belt needed to be in the lineup for 20 to 30 straight starts to start the year. No jimmyjacking him around. Just plop him at 1st and let it ride.

But Bochy couldn’t do it. And now this kid has zero confidence. Bochy seems to be happy about it too. Sabean as well.

What a terrible organization at developing hitters.

Terrible.

Keep’n It Real

*** Off-Topic…sort of ***

Mark Purdy…who I like most of the time…is showing desperation in his crusade to get the A’s to move to San Jose.

After quoting some recent Bud Selig quote about how Walter Haas allowed the Giants to claim San Jose territorial rights (neither team owned them at the time) because “he (Haas) did things in the best interest of baseball”…Mark is trying to plead to the Giants largest owner’s (Charles Johnson) regarding his legacy in baseball.

Here is Mark’s comment about Johnson in comparing him to Haas: “How does Johnson, who owns the biggest chunk of the Giants and thus sets the franchise’s tone, want to be remembered at the end of his time in baseball?”

Uh…I think Johnson will be AOK with his reputation in the baseball circles. World Series Title (hopefully more in the future), the most beautiful baseball park in the world (and privately financed), and (hopefully) he prevents that disgrace of an owner (Lew Wolff) from benefiting via a strategy to alienate fans in Oakland; while also keeping the Giants 43% South Bay fan base/business plan intact.

JBGood

Arias will pick it up with the bat once he makes his adjustments. He makes good contact and he has speed as well. Interesting lineup. Let’s see if it continues to generate offense.

rayoflight

@G-Man,

How does starting him once every 3 days translate to “he got a shot.”

Belt has never gotten a chance to play everyday. And he has, what, the 2nd highest OBP on a team of guys who cant get on base and lead the league in 1-2-3 innings offensively.

FL- Giants Fan

So people think that Belt should be benched because he hasn’t hit a Home run? I like what this line-up offers but I still believe Belt needs at-bats. If he is driving in runs and getting on base, he needs to get more at-bats.

Internet Giants Fan

Brandon Belt has had the most playing time at 1b this year an will continue to do so. The guy has done absolutely nothing to seize the ball and hits with as much authority as Burris in 90% of his ab’s.

At some point its on him to actually produce. The excuses are getting pretty thin. I sure hope he can flip a switch but my gut feeling is that he just isn’t that great.

Internet Giants Fan

seize the opportunity, not ball haha no clue where that came from

Internet Giants Fan

I do get the merit that he will take a walk and thats not a bad thing, but as constructed this team really needs him to drive the ball with some authority and knock in some runs and be a middle of the order presence and not a table setter.

pacman68

Belt will get his chance but not with the Giants. Pill is a flavor of the day and I love Pill. But he is no Belt and I wouldn’t be surprised if Sabean didn’t bring in a vet next year to play first base. Bochy and Sabean have completely given up on Belt.

pacman68

And all those who said he hasn’t done anything. 2 games ago he scored 2 runs and had a triple off a lefty.

OMT

Robin,

Finally someone agrees with me about Nate’s passion and appearance.

Internet Giants Fan

Pacman68 –

And yesterday Pill had a HR yesterday. So what?

dgg

Welcome back, Alex.

My favorite tweet from yesterday was by you, and it had nothing to do with the Giants, and everything to do with Mother’s Day.

A fan complained: “Sometimes I think you don’t wake up till 11a. Don’t make me follow Baggs please. No tweet on Culberson still.”

You responded: “would rather take care of mom on my off day than sit on twitter”

Perfect.

Pacman 68

Internet Giants Fan

He has the second highest OBP on the team. He has to start playing.

Dom

Enough acting like Nate is Ken Griffey Jr. out there in right field. Yes he has a GREAT arm and nice range, but players like that are a dime-a-dozen. If we had a consistent hitting lineup that would be one thing, but we don’t. Until he can put together a string of consistent at bats, he’s nothing more than a fourth OF!

SpeierFuentes

Pacman,

Bochy has completely given up on Belt? Seriously? That’s a strange comment because he’s going to get the vast majority of starts at 1B even in a strict platoon. Brandon’s only been in the organization for 2+ years and just turned 24.

I swear to god sometimes I wonder if some of you have ever seen the process of a young player becoming an everyday big league talent. If he can play will certainly find out.

Saying they’ve given up on him is absurd.

SpeierFuentes

we will certainly find out…sorry

Dinero

Belt will be fine. He’s got the most starts at 1B by far, there’s no reason to think that won’t continue. He sits a game or two and everybody flips. He’s being phased in.

I like the LU, glad that they are sticking with Blanco as the LO guy.

Go get ‘em boys!

SpeierFuentes

Rayoflight,

“I think Bochy at this point has officially wrecked Brandon Belt. Congratulations Bruce: You took a young talent UNIVERSALLY thought to be a bigtime player and you just broke him.”

That is probably the most ridiculous thing I’ve read on this here blog. And the bar is pretty high.

Nice going.

JD4SF

Thanks, Alex!

bradley emden

I like Pill and I wish they could get him to play second, kind of like
a Jeff Kent type of guy, but Belt has to play. Belt is a potential total
stud and he has to play his way to getting hot on the field. I don’t
care today if Pill hits 4 homers, today, as long as the giants win, but
stop blocking the development of a potential star. This is ridiculous,
and if I am running the giants, I call Bochy into my office and have
a few words with him. Luckily for him Baer is in charge and not me.

bradley emden

I would like to see Nate and Belt in the lineup tonight.
This is getting absurd. Unless these guys are hurt, let
these guys play. Maybe if Schierholtz played a little more,
he wouldn’t have made that stupid running mistake he made
last week.

You cant seriously believe that Nats’s baserunning blunder, something you learn around age 12-13, was because of his playing time.

That may be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard (Sorry Speier)

FL- Giants Fan

I like the idea of getting Pill reps at second. Freddy is gone after this year and Panik is not ready yet. He should try and become a Ben Zobrist type player.

peakfreak

When are you people going to stop asking for Pill at second?!! He played it so horribly in the minors before he came up last year that they know not to try it in the majors! PLEASE let that thought die!

SpeierFuentes

Bradley,

You might do well to study some history of the game. How other young players have been handled in their ascent to an everyday role in the big leagues.

The process is ongoing and will NOT destroy or kill or damage Belt’s ability to play the game. That is a flat out fallacy. At the end of the day if he can play we will find out.

And to say that Nate’s running mistake was the result of not playing more??? The man has been playing the game for 20 years. There is NO EXCUSE in the world for that one.

That’s high school stuff.

OMT

Those who keep trying to put players out of position just STOP. Bochy has FINALLY, it seems, only playing guys in their intended positions. This includes Pill and Belt. Looks like he’s not giving Huff or Posey time there now for now, and that allows Pill and Belt to know when they are going to play and to be prepared when they do. It’s up to both of them now.

http://thewisdomcow.blogspot.com/ The Wisdom Cow

Starting 16 of 29 games is not developing a player or phasing him in.

For me, the platoon is just dumb. Pick one of them and find out what you got. If you want the pop from Pill, play Pill. If you want the glove and eye of Belt, play Belt. The other guy can have the off days and be used off the bench while the starter gets a solid, reliable evaluation over consistent playing time.

Assuming Pill in LF is done (I hope), it’s time to make a choice as 1B. Seriously, Pill can hit off righties and Belt can hit off of lefties. The platoon aspect does not make much sense. If the splits were greater, there would be an argument.

It’s a load of crap to think either Belt or Pill has been given a real look at the position. Recall, Belt did not get 1B time until the last days of spring. I’d prefer to see Belt get a chance, but what I think matters more is that one of the two gets 5 starts a week for at least 3 weeks, preferably placed in the same spot in the LU as well.

SpeierFuentes

IGF,

I’ll admit that’s pretty close. There are so many to choose from it’s…well

ridiculous.

JD4SF

Alex tweet:
Freddy Sanchez having MRI on lower back, which also flared up in spring. “It’s another setback,” Bochy said.
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There have been posters here wondering how a Freddy Sanchez return would impact the roster. I’m wondering if Freddy will even be able to return – he appears to be having one setback after another. Give him credit for continuing to try, but the question regarding if he can succeed seems to be a legitimate growing concern.

Keep’n It Real

@OMT and Robin

You are entitled to your opinion about Nate and Belt, but how can you come to a conclusion by just watching these guys on TV or sitting in the stands?

Saying Nate has no passion without being around him during his workouts and at the park is…well…without accurate/complete information. I can remember Martie Lurie (who apparently resides in AZ) saying that Nate was in AZ weeks before the start of ST to get additional work in. ClutchUp just mentioned today how Nate spent hours learning how to play RF at AT&T with Randy Wynn. Someone without passion doesn’t do that kind of thing. I would also say that there are many examples of athletes that have inner passion, but don’t show it outwardly…which may be the main reason (besides his hitting peaks/valleys) he frustrates you.

Belt? Same thing. You have no idea how much information is being fed to him…which could be adding to his appearance at the plate. Instincts (and past success) telling him one thing, while “fizzle-fizzle” (my new name for Giants hitting coach) is telling him something else. I just wish he was with another hitting coach, but I digress…

Personally, I think the main reason for both players being less-than-successful at the plate (and looking without passion) is the Giants below-par hitting instruction. Not only at the big league level, but also in the minors. With the exception of Buster (who was a hitter before being drafted) and Pablo (natural hitter), the Giants farm system hasn’t produced a prolonged major league stud hitter(s) at all. They’re drafting more positional players than the recent past, but what is being done to develop hitters that not only have minor league success, but also has hitting success that translates directly at the major league level? I’ve made this suggestion before, but the Giants need to go outside of the organization…find coaches with a history of developing major league hitters…and hire these guys! The Giants hitting instructors should be equally successful as the Giants pitching coaches…but they’re far from it.

Anyway…like I said…you are entitled to your opinion.

slash78

So Belt’s punishment for struggling against RHP is to be benched against LHP? Really?

Internet Giants Fan

Or maybe all of the position players besideds Buster and Pablo just haven’t been that good.

What guys have moved on and thrived in another organization? Not even everyone’s golden boy John Bowker.

E-B

Tremendous wins yesterday and the day before.
That leadoff spot with a real leadoff hitter makes a difference.
(wonder why it took so long for this to happen?)

Picking up from last portion of previous thread…

Al oha: +
ita, Belt & Nate for D in late innings.

Susie: +
ita, Buster at C. Period. Have held this opinion from the beginning, and still do. Full rest on his off days when Hector C.

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Go G-men!

HI Fan

I have seen how teams decide to Commit to young players. Look at Hayward, Posey, Goldschmidt, Reyes, ect, ect, ect. Players who made it and didn’t, playing everyday.
Most times, they put the player / prospect in a position and allow them to succeed or fail and they all did at points of their career. You go thru tough patches, but hope that after a season, you know what you have to build with or trade. But Bochy & Sabean just want W’s and not looking far enough to the future. We saw this last year where we saw Nate, B. Crawford, Belt not get to give enough sample size to know what we would have for this full season. We missed play-offs last year with retreads. Now our young players struggle and Bochy pulls the trigger to see if anyone can do better. End of year, we won’t know if we are better or worse than getting new retreads / mid range free agents ( Not like Hamilton / Kemp ) are coming to SF.

Stan

How’s this for a blockbuster trade?..Tim Lincecum for Josh Hamilton?..both want a change of scenery.

Maybe not straight up..but the basic deal.

Vegas Giants Fan

Last year I posted an interview with Fresno manager Steve Decker. Decker was asked if Brett Pill could play 2nd base in the major leagues. His response was no. The reason Pill played some games at 2nd (at Fresno) was due to injuries to his ball club.

Keep’n It Real

Once again, we also have to remember that many of us WANTED this team to go with younger players. We got our wish…and the “rookie mistakes” comes with it.

SpeierFuentes

Slash

Please tell us all again the story about how Bochy told Belt to “employ an uppercut swing” to increase his power.

I want to write it down in it’s entirety. A great fairy tale is hard to find these days.

fergie348

When are we going to be able to see Belt pitch? In a blowout game, I’d love to see what he’s got..

http://thewisdomcow.blogspot.com/ The Wisdom Cow

KIR, +1

I’d like to see a bigger emphasis on the mental approach at the plate than the apparent focus on the physical swing.

I wrote what I thought was a good take on the “hole” in Belt’s swing earlier. If he had a hole up and in, instead of bashing him for being unable to change his basic swing, they could have worked with what he did do well.

They could urge him to not swing at the pitch, only fighting it off in a 2 strike count. Even if he can’t make the adjustment, it is not like pitchers always hit their target. Belt had pop in his bat before the recent attempt to “fix” it.

I get that the hope was to create a swing that covered all areas + kept his pop + his eye, but how can it be determined if the new approach even works if they don’t play him enough to find out. Then, they can still revert to the former swing, with an improved mental approach.

I remember reading Dusty talk hitting back when he was the hitting coach. He stressed the mental side significantly and he seemed to get pretty good results.

Slash78

If Pill can only start 1B why not move Belt to LF? We got to see Belt in LF last year. Wasn’t always a pretty sight, but then again it wasn’t half as bad as Pill. Not early as bad as Huff either.

We know Cabrera isn’t going to be bumped from the OF. So it’s Blanco or Pagan. Pagan isn’t a middle-of-the-order hitting nor is his defense all that great. In fact if you wanted a “late inning defensive replacement” in an OF featuring (L-R) Belt-Blanco-Cabrera, you would put Scheirholtz in RF and move Cabrera over long before you would sub Pagan for Belt 1-for-1.

Bud

Amazing how Bochy has all 3 OF guys out of position.

1) Pagan has proven he is incapable in CF. Stash him in LF and call it a day.
2) Melky has a much stronger arm than Blanco, he is your RF out of these 3 guys.
3) Blanco can cover a ton of ground and takes much better routes to the ball than Pagan, he is your CF out of these 3 guys.

http://thewisdomcow.blogspot.com/ The Wisdom Cow

Ooops, did I make the other posts go Italics because of a foggotten slash.

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sigh

It still didn’t work. My bad. Hope this did . . .

al oha

I am a believer that Brandon Belt is the long-term answer to playing 1B for the Giants.

But, I watched batting practice before the 1st 2 Dodger games last week. Brandon’s swing is way too tight. He is not driving the ball consistently. I have no problem with him not starting right now. But, he should be FINISHING every game like how Bochy used Travis Ishikawa as late-inning Defensive replacement.

Brandon will get his swing right in due time. I just hope it is this year. He needs to call Barry Bonds and have him mentor him. Take over as his personal Batting Coach. Imagine what Barry could do with BB9.

Nate needs to replace Pagan in the OF in late innings. I don’t trust him Defensively.

Bochy needs to use the entire Team. Whoever is hot, but don’t forget the Defense. Never sacrifice Defense because of a Bochy whim.

And good luck at 2B, Charlie. Seize the opportunity.

http://thewisdomcow.blogspot.com/ The Wisdom Cow

Bud +1

Lead Dog

I was kinda of the mind set that Bouchy didnt care for the way Nate and/or Brandon played.

First it was Huff @1b, then Posey and now Pill. Same deal with Nate in Right. But I just didn’t want to beleive that. So as I looked at it again, I see its really that wonderful 5 slot in the order still. They need the fifth slot to drive (not hit HR) in runs. 1 – 3 batter are getting on, Posey (hasn’t had a extra ball hit since the 26 of Apr.) is slumping/hurt and probably should have sat today as well.

It is was it is.

http://comcast.net Giants1021

@67
awesome post

Lead Dog

Bud says:
May 14th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Amazing how Bochy has all 3 OF guys out of position.

1) Pagan has proven he is incapable in CF. Stash him in LF and call it a day.
2) Melky has a much stronger arm than Blanco, he is your RF out of these 3 guys.
3) Blanco can cover a ton of ground and takes much better routes to the ball than Pagan, he is your CF out of these 3 guys

Nice Catch, 100% right.

Peter

Bud @5:17PM

Is correct.

Walter Guest

I can’t fault Bochy for playing Pill right now. Pill is on pace to hit 40 homers if he were playing full time. The problem is he will not maintain that pace and Bochy might get into one of those Bochy mindlocks (play pill, play Pill, play Pill) after Pill stops hitting and his OBP drops to .270.

We’ve all seen those Bochy mindlocks.

Lead Dog

Pill next Homer run @ AT&T park will be his FIRST.

Lead Dog

Just drive the ball, baby.

JC

Just how I Predicted the lineup would be. Tomorrow vs the righty you will prob see Burriss and Belt in for Pill.

#51, KIR. Good points, esp on Q of hitting instructors. Seems as if the coaches in the minors OK–at least, from what I can see, the guys from r farm sys seem to have some plate discipline. Once they arrive w/ the big club, it seems to vanish.

It might be a philosophy/bb culture thing, i.e., management (here in bigs) touting the want hitters to b more aggressive, etc. ? Dunno, but if it’s true, your point about bringing in some outside help is well taken.

Is Steve Decker ‘outside’ enough? he seems to have a talent for motivating young players. Seems like a good fit for our young team. CC had a HoF named Ryne Sandberg (sp?), but apparently, Phillies have i on him as successor to Manuel.

OK, gotta get off this iPad. Keyboard and spell completion drivin me nuts, so slow.

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Over and out, go giants!

al oha

After watching those 2 batting practices, I also noticed Burriss was spraying line drives while batting LEFT HANDED. When he was batting Right Handed, he popped up, fouled the ball off and turned over grounders.

If Burriss is to play at 2B, he should platoon with Culbertson and only bat Left-Handed. Let Charlie start against Lefties.

Adam

WC, not only the text on the page, but also pictures, furniture, walls, the very world around me is slanting to the right. Tonight, everyone will hit and throw right-handed, and there will be nothing but foul balls sliced down the first base line.

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?

http://thewisdomcow.blogspot.com/ The Wisdom Cow

I have no idea. Me = smart

I’m gonna go burn some Monarch Butterflies for R’llor and hope he can fix it.

But what if the Giants win in a landslide?

http://thewisdomcow.blogspot.com/ The Wisdom Cow

I guess we can be thankful I didn’t make everything bold and crossed out, too.

al oha

What do you call a woman with no right arm or right leg?
…….. Eileen

What do you call an Asian woman with no right arm or right leg?
…….. Irene

What do you call a woman with no left arm or left leg OR a Bochy lineup vs. a southpaw pitcher?
…….. Awwwwlllllllllll Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight!

http://thewisdomcow.blogspot.com/ The Wisdom Cow

A new thread, whew!

OMT

KnIR,

This will be my final post on Nate, because I’ve mostly said all of this before.

I really like Nate. He seems a genuinely super nice guy. I like that he’s from the BA. I like that he’s from Pleasanton (used to live there). I think he is an outstanding OF with a canon for an arm and not only a canon but an accurate canon, which is so rare for some reason in MLB.

I do not argue that he, from sources I’m not privy too, tries real hard. But you ask why do I feel he doesn’t have passion (which I am talking about in his “appearance”). It will be anyones choice to debate with me, but from the epic movie series Rocky, he does not have “the Eye of the Tiger”, I don’t see it in his eyes. Yes, this is my only source of “proof”, but he just does not have the “Eye of the Tiger” in my book.

I’m going to compare him to other Giant’s now, that I feel are in the same category as this. First, Pedro Feliz. He was a very good 3b, but for the life of me I never saw the light bulb go off in his head, through his eyes. He just could never lay off that one pitch. There just seemed to be some air between the ears, (for lack of a better way to say it, no, I’m not going as far as Larry Krueger here). Second, Jonathon Sanchez. Have you guys ever looked in his eyes? A deer in headlights. Happy and Dirty just had this aura about them that told me they just weren’t ever going to “get it”. I saw it in their eyes.

My last comparison is not related to the eyes per se as much, but more so just the “get it” factor. Now I’m not saying that Nate has the same “taking a dump stance” as Rownad, but Nate is the mirror image of Rownad at the plate. They both can’t lay off THE SAME PITCH. Rownad the outside curve in the dirt, and Nate the inside curve at his back foot. I don’t care how much coaching either of them get. If they cannot realize they are doing this themselves then well… they just aren’t ever going to get it. Take it of themselves to ask the BP pitcher to throw as many pitches to that zone until they break themselves of the habit.

Now, I’m not saying Nate is unintelligent at all, I do not think he is, but something is peculiar here. I’ve watched many an interview of Nate and he seems very nice and very humble. But, there is just something in his “shifty eyes” that tells me a bit about him. If I was conducting an interview of him for a job the “shifty eyes” would be my first note. I’m not saying he wouldn’t get the job if qualified, but I would have concerns and would have to explore with deeper questions. There is a lot in peoples eyes that relates to the way they carry themselves, and often reveals certain traits. Good or not so good.

As I said in the last post, if Nate could somehow learn to be a patient hitter, take some more walks, lay off that pitch that almost hits him, get some good pitches to hit because of that, then he just may become Nate the Great. He would probably put up better power numbers as well. Nate has 1200 PA in his career and only 66 of those have resulted in BB. The book is out. He is what he is. If 1200 PA isn’t enough “time” to see what he is… then, I’m sorry. He is streaky and should be used when he’s hot, and for late inning D. He has shown an ability to be clutch later in the game, almost like that is the pressure he needs to really focus. I wish he could learn from that to become more consistent.

It’s just my personal opinion. I don’t “hate” Nate. And I wish he could “be all he could be” and all that. I will never post on Nate again. I hope the lightbulb turns on. As a Giant’s fan it would make me very happy.

http://thewisdomcow.blogspot.com/ The Wisdom Cow

That’s one slanted opinion, OMT.

Adam

Waiting for some troll to adopt the ‘i’ in angle brackets as a screen handle…

…or maybe even the ‘blink’ tag [shudder].

http://thewisdomcow.blogspot.com/ The Wisdom Cow

I broke the Internet.

Adam

Al Gore’s evil twin, unmasked…

Snitzelbaum

I wouldn’t pay to watch this team play A ball. A team of has been AAA plarers that giant fans think are good but couldn’t make it on other teams. Every time The giants bring up a possable good ball plarer Bonehead Bochy ruins him. Look back as long as he has been manager and see how many promising players he has gone through and how many have made it I would like to see Belt and Nat traded to a team that would put them in the lineup every day and see what would happen before it is to late for them to. Good players being ruined by the Giants and Bochy! I don’t know why any young player signs with the Giant Other tthan Pitching they have nothing.

ClutchUp

slash78 says: May 14th, 2012 at 5:00 pm 52..So Belt’s punishment for struggling against RHP is to be benched against LHP? Really?