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It's called Alexandria because they liked the name, and correctly reasoned that there are probably 12 people in their audience who would both know the area and give a shit about what they call their fake zombieland city.

I gotta say I have some problems with the "Just so" stories we tell ourselves why film A failed and film B succeeded. I very much doubt that Scott Pilgrim would have been much more of a success with a different lead, or that a different marketing campaign would have turned things around completely, though they might have had some (probably small) impact. Personally I'm more with ElJeffe; the film was nichey, and that rarely makes for great box office returns.

The biggest influence on movie success is word of mouth, as I understand. And for some reason it just built no momentum.

Because it's a nearly impossible movie to sell: It's a rom com, but not really. It's like a video game, but not really. It's about this teenager dating an even younger teenager. It's got Michael Cera, but it's not like one of those bad movies he does it's like... Um... That TV show you never got round to seeing...

Oh! It's set in Toronto. Want to watch it now?

"And he fights a guy with his magic bass guitar! And his girlfriend carries a giant hammer in her extra dimensional purse! And he has a pee meter!

G'damm, I love the Bourne movies. Except the Renner one. That one just sucked.

I remember the reason for the Renner one even getting made was because of the colossal financial fallout that was caused by the Scott Pilgrim bomb (a movie that still hasn't made its money back, DVD sales and all)

I liked Pilgrim but it sure did fuck over Universal royally. It's singlehandedly responsible for the Battleship movie, both Smurfs flicks, the unnecessary Bourne reboot, and a few other turds, all made just to bounce back.

That's depressing. Pilgrim is actually a decent movie. I don't understand why it didn't resonate more strongly with people. I dragged my mother out to see it and she actually enjoyed it (I was surprised). Although, now that I think about it she also enjoyed the second Fantastic Four film.

Perhaps it's Chris Evans that she truly enjoyed.

I love the shit out of Scott Pilgrim. I adored the comics, and i thought the film did an amazing job of squeezing everything into less than two hours. I thought Cera did a really good job as the lead, the evil exes ranged from good to great, and the girl who played Knives was amazeballs.

Point being, I loved that picture, but I can absolutely see how it failed. It was a movie about, and marinated in, 90s video game pop culture, where the main character has to go on a literal quest to defeat seven bosses who explode into coins when they die.

You know what you find if you look up "niche" in the dictionary? The definition of the word "niche". Which Scott Pilgrim fucking is.

I don't think there was anybody around who actually thought the movie was going to make any money, which is why I am still amazed it got greenlit, and with a roster of actually good actors and a quality director. The fact that movie even exists is proof that there is a kind and loving God, and that he owns a Sega Genesis.

Also, I'd like to bring up Predestination again just top laud the world building. I really dug the way it implied this bizarre alternate history, but all implicitly and gradually. So hey, time travel was invented in the nineties. And there was recruiting going on in the sixties. And here's this weird recruitment program that was there, and... just a great atmosphere, all of it subtly done, and with little exposition.