I simply stated it was an obvious case of pathological malnurturing resulting in the death of a child. Someone was responsible and the fact is, horrible as it is to comprehend, it may have been a deliberate act.

Don’t selectively forget, Carla Poole didn’t need to throw Demond Reed to pit bulls. She left her own bite marks on the child’s torso as she beat him to death, while she ordered her own children to hold their cousin down. He vomited his last breaths. She coached her children to lie to police.

Don’t selectively forget, Carla Poole didn’t need to throw Demond Reed to pit bulls. She left her own bite marks on the child’s torso as she beat him to death, while she ordered her own children to hold their cousin down. He vomited his last breaths. She coached her children to lie to police.

How can we forget? You’ve been jerking it all over that poor corpse this entire thread.

@ Molly Ren: “Heh, maybe I should point RevSpinnaker towards this thread. His whole schtick on the “Feminism or Death?” thread has been that either feminists or women never talk about this stuff.”

“…either feminists or women never talk about this stuff.” Like regular women? Interesting distinction.

Some women do, such as Darlene Barriere, the woman who runs the following web-site. I have an article there called “I Was on Oprah.” She agreed with my take on media and feminist denial and distortion of the issue of maternal child abuse 100%. So apparently she’s not a feminist but a regular woman. Glad you clarified that!

“By and large, society has no problem accepting that fathers are capable of harming their children. Men have had to deal with this unfounded societal bias since the beginning of time. There is a preconception that because boys are more physical and display anger more readily, they are somehow predisposed to violence against children when they become adults. But statistics reflect that women use physical abuse more than men. Society as a whole has difficulty wrapping their minds around this statistic. If society accepts that women, the caregivers and nurturers, are capable of physically harming their children, then it undermines the very core of our belief system.”

“If society accepts that women, the caregivers and nurturers, are capable of physically harming their children, then it undermines the very core of our belief system.”

That belief system is can be described as matriarchal.

Right. The belief that women are incapable of physical violence is somehow an expression of women’s overwhelming power in society. Because believing that an entire class of people is too gentle/weak/docile to ever damage another human being means you totally respect them and/or fear them to the extent that they can control society. Also the idea that women are necessarily caregivers and nurturers is super matriarchal, as if we don’t have anything else to do with ourselves. Women as complex and occasionally malicious human beings with the capacity to harm? Oh noes, we couldn’t harm a fly — we can’t even open jars! To the fainting couch with us! Our uteri forbid us to do anything against our mothering natures, like the 3 Laws of Robotics, because autonomy (even fucked up autonomy) is for meeeen! And our limp harmless obedience is because matriarchy. Obviously.

But yeah, shorter Rev = still beating his meat over moms beating kids. It’s like the people who watch pornography in which women kill little animals, except more sanctimonious. :p

I think the only way to put this thread out of our misery is to nuke it form orbit.

Misery? It’s like performance art! How low can Rev stoop in his quest to make some women look bad and thus disprove all feminism everywhere? How inept can his math be? How dishonest his sources? How tangled his logic? How chafed his dick?

So while 9 times more children live with single mothers than with single fathers, there are only twice as many deaths from abuse and neglect among single mothers than single fathers.
That makes single fathers 4.5 times more likely to abuse or neglect their children than single mothers.

cynickal: Your 18.5 million children raised by single mothers is from one study done in 2009. Your 2 million children raised by single fathers is from a completely different, non-referenced article in a college newsletter from 2003. There is no correlation.

“…there are only twice as many deaths from abuse and neglect among single mothers than single fathers.”

Citations please. Here’s the stats Bee provided earlier. They look accurate and came from a reputable source. No mention of whether the mothers or fathers acting alone were single or still a couple..

Mother 358
Mother and other 119
Father 170
Father and other 19
Mother and father 289

@ Bee: “So, 477 mothers without fathers are responsible for their child’s (or children’s) death; 189 fathers without mothers are responsible for their child’s (or children’s death); and 289 mothers and fathers jointly are responsible for their child’s death.”

Also do the statistics include filicide? That includes teenagers and are more often killed by fathers. Children yonger than four are more likely to be killed by mothers.

Or just go back to killing little animals. That might suit Bagelsan better.

That is my day job. 😀

As for cites:

“Victim data were analyzed by relationship to their perpetrators. Nearly 39 percent (38.3%) of victims were maltreated by their mother acting alone (figure 3–6). Approximately 18 percent (18.1%) of victims were maltreated by their father acting alone. Nearly 18 percent (17.9%) were maltreated by both parents.” –http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/pubs/cm08/cm08.pdf page 28

More than 70 percent (71.0%) of child fatalities were caused by one or more parents.5 More than one-quarter (26.6%) of fatalities were perpetrated by the mother acting alone.6 Child fatalities with unknown or missing perpetrator relationship data accounted for 17.3 percent. –http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/pubs/cm08/cm08.pdf page 57

For FFY 2008, 56.2 percent of the perpetrators were women, 42.6 percent were men and 1.1 percent were of unknown sex.2 Of the women who were perpetrators, more than 40 percent (45.3%) were younger than 30 years of age, compared with one-third of the men (35.2%) (figure 5–1). These proportions have remained consistent for the past few years. –http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/pubs/cm08/cm08.pdf page 65

So yeah, looks like women account for up to twice the mistreatment that men do. So unless you can prove that men are actually engaging in more than half the childcare that women do, kinda looks bad for the men stats-wise here.

“Your 18.5 million children raised by single mothers is from one study done in 2009. Your 2 million children raised by single fathers is from a completely different, non-referenced article in a college newsletter from 2003. There is no correlation.”

Really, Rev? You’re just going to brush these bits of reality aside and post more shit that you THINK supports your argument, but doesn’t?

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