I agree that limited supply has to do with the craze. How else can you explain the success of the WII? LOL

In terms of price, the 470s should be a lot more inviting for most gamers yet the demand is a lot smaller. It was kinda the same way with the 5970. The more people see it selling out quickly the more they wanna get it.

I don't see what the appeal of the 470 is? Most people are already running 5850s or 5870s. The 5850 is about on par for less money and the 5870 is faster for only $50. I think anyone wanting to upgrade right now would want a faster GPU than the 5870. Leaving the GTX 470 kind of without much demand. Even Hardocp's review ended with, "We see no reason to purchase a GeForce GTX 470." (http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/...0_sli_review/8)

I don't see what the appeal of the 470 is? Most people are already running 5850s or 5870s. The 5850 is about on par for less money and the 5870 is faster for only $50. I think anyone wanting to upgrade right now would want a faster GPU than the 5870. Leaving the GTX 470 kind of without much demand. Even Hardocp's review ended with, "We see no reason to purchase a GeForce GTX 470." (http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/...0_sli_review/8)

Not accurate at all.

Gtx 470's easily beat 5850's for one thing and for two in sli 470's routinely come in neck and neck with 5870cf or slightly above or below and easily beat a 5970 and 5850 cf. Check your benchmarks again.

The truth is the 400 series run hot and consume boatloads of power but actually perform really really well and represent a decent bang for the buck. That's the truth no bs. Now if you wanna be a fanboy of team red sure go ahead and spew nonsense about how loud the fans are and how they are underperformers and are late blah blah ad nausem. Numbers don't lie. Your call.

Gtx 470's easily beat 5850's for one thing and for two in sli 470's routinely come in neck and neck with 5870cf or slightly above or below and easily beat a 5970 and 5850 cf. Check your benchmarks again.

SLI is a moot point for me. I've done it a few times and its been nothing but trouble and micro sssssttuttterrr... only Single GPUs for me from here on out.

and....why would you trust canadians?? Oh cause they gave you the result you wanted to see...

Things really equal out between the GeForce GTX 470 and Radeon HD 5850. We were able to play at 2560x1600 with 8X MSAA on both video cards, no fancy Supersampling AA at this resolution. In this "apples-to-apples" highest gameplay setting scenario, the Radeon HD 5850 is edging out with slightly faster framerates.

Starting from the bottom up, we would say the least relevant video card is the GeForce GTX 470. In all our gameplay testing today, not once did the GeForce GTX 470 provide a superior gameplay experience compared to the Radeon HD 5850, even in Metro 2033. In fact, performance was very close between both video cards, and in some cases the Radeon HD 5850 proved to provide faster framerates. Looking strictly at performance, these video cards are equal.

My GPUs are always water cooled so the stock fan noise is also a moot point.

SLI is a moot point for me. I've done it a few times and its been nothing but trouble and micro sssssttuttterrr... only Single GPUs for me from here on out.

and....why would you trust canadians?? Oh cause they gave you the result you wanted to see...

Things really equal out between the GeForce GTX 470 and Radeon HD 5850. We were able to play at 2560x1600 with 8X MSAA on both video cards, no fancy Supersampling AA at this resolution. In this "apples-to-apples" highest gameplay setting scenario, the Radeon HD 5850 is edging out with slightly faster framerates.

Starting from the bottom up, we would say the least relevant video card is the GeForce GTX 470. In all our gameplay testing today, not once did the GeForce GTX 470 provide a superior gameplay experience compared to the Radeon HD 5850, even in Metro 2033. In fact, performance was very close between both video cards, and in some cases the Radeon HD 5850 proved to provide faster framerates. Looking strictly at performance, these video cards are equal.

My GPUs are always water cooled so the stock fan noise is also a moot point.

SLI might be moot for you but not for me and for many other's. Just because you don't want to acknowledge it doesn't mean it's irrevelant. I have on occasion experienced some micro stutter over the years in certain games but hardly what alot of people claim it to be. This might be a hardware configuration issue since over the years it seems no general consensus has be come too from what I remember.

Why trust canadians? Are they known to be unreliable or untrust worthy? Do they have a reason to lie? Are they on nvidia's payroll or what? The better question is why wouldn't I trust them. LOL you think I picked them because they gave me the results I wanted? Seriously dude? I could care less in all honesty I just don't care for exaggerated bul**** is all which is why I even responded to your post. They and I believe hexus are the only sites that have run 470 sli reviews. That's why I picked canadians. I'll have to look around some more. As far as Kyle's review over at H. Heh I am a long time regular poster over there and I love their forums and what not but that doesn't mean his word is gospel. Especially when it comes to nvidia the last year or so.

Your also comparing cards with very very mature 6 month old drivers to new architecture and brand new drivers. So there are some annamolies in some of the tests which just don't jive. You can clearly see in some tests in certain games how the scaling is and how some frames drop off for no apparent reason. Whatever but the bottom line is 470 and 470 sli are real contenders and not the afterthought you TRIED to make it sound like. get your facts straight before you speak next time.

Well if you get one let me know what you think. This Acer is better than I thought it would be. Funny thing my 470s turned out the same way. I thought the 470 was going to be in my alt rig. Using one changed my mind and caused me to get another.

60-120FPS is pretty much ideal for me. I really missed vsync and it's great to have it back.

SLI might be moot for you but not for me and for many other's. Just because you don't want to acknowledge it doesn't mean it's irrevelant. I have on occasion experienced some micro stutter over the years in certain games but hardly what alot of people claim it to be. This might be a hardware configuration issue since over the years it seems no general consensus has be come too from what I remember.

Why trust canadians? Are they known to be unreliable or untrust worthy? Do they have a reason to lie? Are they on nvidia's payroll or what? The better question is why wouldn't I trust them. LOL you think I picked them because they gave me the results I wanted? Seriously dude? I could care less in all honesty I just don't care for exaggerated bul**** is all which is why I even responded to your post. They and I believe hexus are the only sites that have run 470 sli reviews. That's why I picked canadians. I'll have to look around some more. As far as Kyle's review over at H. Heh I am a long time regular poster over there and I love their forums and what not but that doesn't mean his word is gospel. Especially when it comes to nvidia the last year or so.

Your also comparing cards with very very mature 6 month old drivers to new architecture and brand new drivers. So there are some annamolies in some of the tests which just don't jive. You can clearly see in some tests in certain games how the scaling is and how some frames drop off for no apparent reason. Whatever but the bottom line is 470 and 470 sli are real contenders and not the afterthought you TRIED to make it sound like. get your facts straight before you speak next time.

We'll just agree to disagree. I don't find the GTX 470 interesting at all.

Moving on...

The GTX 480 might be in my future. I'd like to see someones' thoughts who went from a 5870 to a GTX 480 and see if they feel it was worth it. Also, some real world GTA IV 5870 vs 480... so how does it play now??

We'll just agree to disagree. I don't find the GTX 470 interesting at all.

Moving on...

The GTX 480 might be in my future. I'd like to see someones' thoughts who went from a 5870 to a GTX 480 and see if they feel it was worth it. Also, some real world GTA IV 5870 vs 480... so how does it play now??

I don't have that game...but I do notice that games like Metro and AvP run a lot better plus the cards OC well, I'm pretty happy overall.