In a wide-ranging conversation, Doherty and Nick Gillespie talk about the rise of Trump and the role of Steve Bannon in the president’s administration; why being a “rootless cosmopolite” isn’t in any way antithetical to patriotism; and why the great Austrian-born economist Ludwig Von Mises—a Jew who escaped Nazism—provides the strongest possible case against Trump’s “America First” message.

Produced by Mark McDaniel.

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