I just have to add that I was unaware of nvidia driver issues using the pseudo 2.1 release. (http://www.vectorlinux.com/forum2/index.php?topic=4507.msg29524#msg29524) I usually don't install the drivers as I don't need them for compiling. But I did needed to test some Open GL games I had packaged. I couldn't find my unmarked 2.1 CD to install vlnvidia so I downloaded the legacy driver from Nvidia. It was a newer version then what VL uses.

* Improved compatibility with recent versions of X.Org X servers. * Fixed a TV-OUT corruption problem on some GeForce 4 GPUs. * Fixed a bug that resulted in the generation of incorrect EDIDs on some notebooks. * Improved power management support with some GeForce 4 based notebooks. * Improved compatibility with recent Linux 2.6 kernels. * Fixed an 'nvidia-installer' bug that was causing the installer to treat some of its temporary files as conflicting.

I never had a single hiccup and I have to say my old GeForce2 MX/MX 400 ran the games shockingly smooth. I had the driver installed for about 5 long days, game testing and multitasking with multiple terminals open.And the Nvidia splashscreen was pretty sexy looking

I've been packaging some games lately and have noticed if I set the prefix to /usr/games, the menu entries will not show up in XFCE. Ever. /usr/games is in the path. I can see the .desktop fine if I browse /usr/share/applications. When I try to execute the desktop from Thunar, it will not. This seems to apply when the full path to the game is not within the .desktop file. If I edit the .desktop to include the full path, it works within Thunar, and (eventually) shows up in Xfce's menu under games. From what I can see, the /usr/games path is added from the .bashrc. Is it possible xfce is loading before the .bashrc and it is ignoring the appended path? Would appending the path within profile.d fix this? I seem to remember someone packaging a game for VL5.8 and the menu entry refusing to show up in xfce (joel1962 maybe?)

The packages aren't there Just installed kernel sources and vlnvidia driver. I can confirm, Terminal + mc = instant freeze. xterm + mc = good. Now just waiting to try your new packages.

Edit: I just installed the beta on another partition without installing vlnvidia drivers. Went to Nvidia and got the driver I mentioned earlier and I can now open mc with Terminal. All seems stable so far. I'll let ya know if it changes. I still have the other install on the other partition ready to test those updated packages if you still need them tested.

Just download VL59 STD Beta 1 and install it in my XP PC using VirtualBox 1.4....every look nice and neat as what I see from VL 58 GOLD....especially the new GUI login page....really look nicebut then I found that it contain less application. Gkrellm, shutterbug and other applications is missing. I hope at the final version it will be back.....

second thing is there is some icon missing from the start menu........the missing icon is About Xfce, Autostarted Applications and Database Access Properties. From /usr/share/applications, I look into the Database Access's .desktop and found out the icon's command is about strange. Could it be the problem?

Just download VL59 STD Beta 1 and install it in my XP PC using VirtualBox 1.4....every look nice and neat as what I see from VL 58 GOLD....especially the new GUI login page....really look nicebut then I found that it contain less application. Gkrellm, shutterbug and other applications is missing. I hope at the final version it will be back.....

second thing is there is some icon missing from the start menu........the missing icon is About Xfce, Autostarted Applications and Database Access Properties. From /usr/share/applications, I look into the Database Access's .desktop and found out the icon's command is about strange. Could it be the problem?

Adding the full path to your .desktop files would fix it, or moving/copying the gnome-db.png to /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-db.pngWhen checking the menu entry for "about xfce" there isn't a icon assosiated with it.

Please look into this. They may already be installed on a VL59 system but I don't know. They may only need to be installed on SOHO but it might be a good idea to included them in Standard for compatibility reasons.

Sorry man, I installed it on the partition running vlnvidia legacy. Opened terminal, typed mc, and froze instantly. It's the strangest thing. The mouse works great. Can't click on anything. No mouseover effects. Keyboard and LED's dead Everything freezes solid. You have to hit the button on the computer.

The new install with downloaded Nvidia drivers has been running flawlessly. I've tried to load the system. Been using heavy GL games and GL screensavers. It is solid. The freezup is dependable when clicking the "preview" button when posting in this board too. I guess the javascript overloads it too.

Thanks for trying guys.

Edit: I've been thinking. I didn't remove any Xfce related things from my home directory before testing the new package. Maybe something offending could of been left behind? Thinking about creating a new user and testing again. But also, what files should I delete from this users new home directory to test if it's related to anything (VL related) that's inherited from /etc/skel ? Might be worth a shot.

Edit again: I tried a new user with .config folder removed. Man is stock xfce ugly! No change. It isn't a VL settings thing.

exeterdad, nightflier how did you install your new iso's via cd or did you use the vinstall-iso script? Seems the bottom line on the freeze issue is nvidia drivers. Did you try the old legacy driver 7185 just curious how that holds up.