I guess he's still mad at the raptors for trading him for oak. Alonzo 2.0. I expected more from him, I thought he would be gracious enough to play a player-assistant coach type of role like juwan howard, since his career started here. maybe he could mentor jonas defensively.

at least we still have novak, who's happy to be here, and is guaranteed to be of use. ship this bums ass outta here for 2nd round picks. we don't need him.

Novak suuucks so hard! Guy can drill an open 3 9/10 times. That's it.

If Your Uncle Jack Helped You Off An Elephant, Would You Help Your Uncle Jack Off An Elephant?

Sometimes, I like to buy a book on CD and listen to it, while reading music.

I would be surprised if Ujiri agrees to a buyout. There are been rumors that Ujiri is unwilling to use the amnesty on Kleiza because he views it as a waste of an asset. I don't see this situation any differently. Buying him out does nothing for the Raptors. I think he will either be traded this summer or held on until the trade deadline where he basically will function as an expiring contract.

Also, we could fine him and save some money for rogers if he doesn't want to suiting up

It's bad timing for Camby to think this way, because the Raptors are heading into a season that won't matter a whole lot. We're not exactly in a desperate situation where a guy like Camby holding out on us would be something that hangs a dark cloud over the team.

The other part of this is that he's not exactly at a point in his career where you think OH GAWD I WISH H3 WERE PLAYING 4 US, and the reality is there probably aren't that many "contending" desperate for his services either.

On the other hand do you really want someone with this kind of attitude mentoring JV? I don't. Send him to Olajuwon's camp if you want him to learn.

It's bad timing for Camby to think this way, because the Raptors are heading into a season that won't matter a whole lot. We're not exactly in a desperate situation where a guy like Camby holding out on us would be something that hangs a dark cloud over the team.

The other part of this is that he's not exactly at a point in his career where you think OH GAWD I WISH H3 WERE PLAYING 4 US, and the reality is there probably aren't that many "contending" desperate for his services either.

On the other hand do you really want someone with this kind of attitude mentoring JV? I don't. Send him to Olajuwon's camp if you want him to learn.

Or just spend the summer working with Sabonis once Summer League is over.

Or just spend the summer working with Sabonis once Summer League is over.

Sure, if you think that would be useful. I'd rather him just watch Sabonis tape. Sabonis isn't doing too much these days, while Olajuwon has devoted his time to teaching young big men. There's something to be said about learning from an expert vs learning from an expert who has spent the last 7 years training others. Of course I take it all back if Sabonis has been doing the same thing.. I didn't find any evidence of this.

Edit: I meant for the NBA. I'm sure Sabonis is helping out with the Lithuanian team or something like that (as opposed to sitting at home and watching tv all day).

Sure, if you think that would be useful. I'd rather him just watch Sabonis tape. Sabonis isn't doing too much these days, while Olajuwon has devoted his time to teaching young big men. There's something to be said about learning from an expert vs learning from an expert who has spent the last 7 years training others. Of course I take it all back if Sabonis has been doing the same thing.. I didn't find any evidence of this.

Edit: I meant for the NBA. I'm sure Sabonis is helping out with the Lithuanian team or something like that (as opposed to sitting at home and watching tv all day).

I think you are over valuing Hakeem's sessions with others and undervaluing Sabonis' knowledge.

"We only have one rule on this team. What is that rule? E.L.E. That's right's, E.L.E, and what does E.L.E. stand for? EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY. Right there up on the wall, because this isn't just a basketball team, this is a lifestyle. ~ Jackie Moon

Maybe you mean amnesty does not count but that doesn't apply to him, obviously it counts against the cap or teams would use it to get out of contracts all the time, what are you smoking?

Well, you can't just "buy out" a player without both parties consenting, and I think there are very few examples where both parties are incentivized to do a buy out, although this might just be one such case.

If teams could force a buy out, then yeah, they'd be buying out bad contracts all the time.

"We only have one rule on this team. What is that rule? E.L.E. That's right's, E.L.E, and what does E.L.E. stand for? EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY. Right there up on the wall, because this isn't just a basketball team, this is a lifestyle. ~ Jackie Moon

One doesn't have to be a pro athlete or an agent to really understand what he needs to do. He sat at the end of the bench of a Knicks team that was destined to make the playoffs. He really thinks Miami is going to come and call just like that? Personally, if I were him, I'd work my tail off for the Raps to be the # 1 big man back-up to showcase my skill. Why wouldn't he just do that? My estimation is that he really doesn't care whether he plays another minute of ball in a contending team. He just wants to "Juwan" it. You know, ride the pine, be a practice dummy, get a ring.

ďThe saving of our world from pending doom will come, not through the complacent adjustment of the conforming majority, but through the creative maladjustment of a nonconforming minority.Ē - Martin Luther King

With Howard going to Houston, and Asik wanting out.. I wonder if Houston would be interested in Camby. They love their bigs, and they would need depth there especially if Asik is moved.

Novak is also a great floor spacer for Howard as well.

Novak+Camby for Asik?

Asik would be a great addition to the Raptors front court, but would he hurt JV's development? He would also have a large expiring contract next season.

It is with their love for big men that keeps Asik (and Lin) in Houston. Morey is a smart man and wouldn't want to thin out his bench. Camby will suit up. At the tail end of his career, would he really want to leave all that money behind? If so, he's dumber than a nail.

ďThe saving of our world from pending doom will come, not through the complacent adjustment of the conforming majority, but through the creative maladjustment of a nonconforming minority.Ē - Martin Luther King

It is with their love for big men that keeps Asik (and Lin) in Houston. Morey is a smart man and wouldn't want to thin out his bench. Camby will suit up. At the tail end of his career, would he really want to leave all that money behind? If so, he's dumber than a nail.

With Howard going to Houston, and Asik wanting out.. I wonder if Houston would be interested in Camby. They love their bigs, and they would need depth there especially if Asik is moved.

Novak is also a great floor spacer for Howard as well.

Novak+Camby for Asik?

Asik would be a great addition to the Raptors front court, but would he hurt JV's development? He would also have a large expiring contract next season.

Novak and Camby can't be dealt together (or with anyone else) until September 10.

Regarding Asik, I doubt the Raptors want him due to JV. I doubt he would be happy with that considering he reportedly now wants out of Houston. I'd be looking to be the third team in any Asik deal. Get a pick or prospect for Camby.

The reality is though, I can't see Camby having much value at $4.3M per year. Minimum contract, yes. $4.3M, no.

raps needed a pure spot up shooter who would just catch and shoot. novak is that guy. im fine with that as long as he doesnt start dribbling like jason crapono. raps best 3 pointer/s were andersen and lucas, who when they hit shots think they're kobe for the rest of the game.