(09-10-2017, 03:58 PM)Siregar Wrote: I still don't get it. What option will be taken in January? Option when move is permanent? Seems contradicting one to the other. Could you explain more?

It is a loan deal with the option to make it permanent. The option expires next summer, however Sosa's deal also expires next summer. In this case, Trabzonspor can just sign Sosa for free next summer....BUT they won't do that. They've basically signed him this summer...only that instead of making the move permanent immediately, they'll make it permanent in January.

Think of it as a loan with an option to buy that will be exercised in January. Again, clearly this is structured this way in order to benefit the financial statements of one of the clubs....so there is no way of Sosa coming back here. He is basically sold, it's just that it is not an official sale on the books, yet. It WILL be though, in January.

(09-12-2017, 04:44 AM)Ryo Wrote: On meaning alone, an option to buy in January means that a buyer will be allowed to make a loaned player into a permanent move for their club from January onwards. That means that should this option be taken up, whoever the buyer is will have a choice to pay up the pre-agreed transfer fee and buy out the player for their own club.

I think too many people put an emphasis on the fact that a Loan with Option always gives the other club a chance to walk away from a deal, leaving the original club to deal with a player they don't want. Fact is, it's not always what the buying club is thinking.

I believe the difference between option and obligations are the timing of the transfers. If a team has an option to buy, and not an obligation, they can defer their recording of the player's transfers and wages in their books to when they actually exercise the option. When a team has an obligation to buy, then regardless of how many years into the future it may be, the club may already have to account for the player's expenses in their books immediately.

Some clubs need to balance their books to survive FFP and whatever sanctions that their local leagues require of them, and not all clubs can earn multi-million dollars every year in order to buy quality players. So deferring a transfer by promising "off the record" to buy a player that they have loaned, will allow them to get past this and make sure their finances "look" healthy at the same time. This is just another way for big clubs to help smaller clubs achieve their goals without breaking bank, and at the same time getting rid of unneeded players.

(09-12-2017, 06:09 AM)nefremo Wrote: It is a loan deal with the option to make it permanent. The option expires next summer, however Sosa's deal also expires next summer. In this case, Trabzonspor can just sign Sosa for free next summer....BUT they won't do that. They've basically signed him this summer...only that instead of making the move permanent immediately, they'll make it permanent in January.

Think of it as a loan with an option to buy that will be exercised in January. Again, clearly this is structured this way in order to benefit the financial statements of one of the clubs....so there is no way of Sosa coming back here. He is basically sold, it's just that it is not an official sale on the books, yet. It WILL be though, in January.