Just saw it randomly on another board. Prolific spread QB. Athletic but not run first quarterback. Solid arm. Good intangibles, although apparently Ware didn't display the work ethic to be successful in the pros. And Ware was an epic bust.

Actually, I disagree. I think that the most important thing is that the QB is a good match for the situation he lands in. There's no catch-all "best case scenario" that will turn any QB into a success, but almost all of the guys who have the tools could have become successful QBs if the system, coaching, and supporting cast were what they needed to be. Generally, they are not.

Actually, I disagree. I think that the most important thing is that the QB is a good match for the situation he lands in. There's no catch-all "best case scenario" that will turn any QB into a success, but almost all of the guys who have the tools could have become successful QBs if the system, coaching, and supporting cast were what they needed to be. Generally, they are not.

And you basically just described the crapshoot. There are so many more variables to the QB position than any other that even if it is the right system with the right coaches, things still have a good chance of not working out. He can't handle the pressure put on him, the media etc.

And you basically just described the crapshoot. There are so many more variables to the QB position than any other that even if it is the right system with the right coaches, things still have a good chance of not working out. He can't handle the pressure put on him, the media etc.

Well, as far as we're concerned? Absolutely a crapshoot.

But as far as the teams actually making the evaluations are concerned, they have much more information on their coaches, their timetable, their ability to develop a QB, and their ability to shelter a QB while they develop him than anybody else does. If a team is unreasonable about their ability to develop a player who really needs some time, it's a failure by that team to realize it.

It seems to me that mental toughness including the strength to work hard at your profession is one of the main causes for QB failure in this league. It certainly held true for Leaf and Russell.
As for RG111, he has excellent intangibles and appears to be mentally tough to me. His arm is above average so I can see no way that he can flop and it won't come as a shock to me if he goes #2 in the draft ahead of Barkley. I guess the chronic complainers about QB's cannot get any support on Luck, so they feel bound to attack RG111 and Barkley

Just saw it randomly on another board. Prolific spread QB. Athletic but not run first quarterback. Solid arm. Good intangibles, although apparently Ware didn't display the work ethic to be successful in the pros. And Ware was an epic bust.