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Plus one on these bad boys. In the winter in China, especially in some of the places I stay ... I ALWAYS carry the pair I bought from Paul. man will they keep your feet nice and toasty. Definite reccmd. from me on these for keeping your feet comfortable ... not made for walking in but sleeping or sitting around ... really good.

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anyone used the "Hot Water Bottle" way?......Boil water and fill your Nalgene bottle....throw it in the bottom of your bag?.....seems like that might work?.....not tried it?

I came here to say this. Hot Water Bottle will work wonders. I also use a small piece of a blue foam pad that I've glued on a piece of reflective emergency blanket. I can attach this with some shock cord to the foot box of my LeighLo TQ and feet stay toasty all night.

Down booties are definitely a solution that will warm you up no matter what. But you said that you always have cold feet problems. Have you gone to your doctor and made sure that you have proper circulation in your feet? Do you get cramps after an hour or two of not walking? I had the cold feet problem for quite some time until I mentioned it to my doctor, he put me on an aspirin regiment of all things, 50 mg a day, and after a month, my cold feet where a thing of the past. Might be something to think about.

Down booties are definitely a solution that will warm you up no matter what. But you said that you always have cold feet problems. Have you gone to your doctor and made sure that you have proper circulation in your feet? Do you get cramps after an hour or two of not walking? I had the cold feet problem for quite some time until I mentioned it to my doctor, he put me on an aspirin regiment of all things, 50 mg a day, and after a month, my cold feet where a thing of the past. Might be something to think about.

How 'bout that. I personally have the opposite issue, I usually have to rip my socks off at night because they get hot and start to sweat. Maybe I'm just strange...

I found using a fresh pair of polyester (dress) socks, then a plastic bag (vapor barrier), then a loose pair of thick wool work socks kept my feet warm.
For really cold weather (-20*C and below) I made a tube out of reflectix that surounds my feet and legs up to the knees. Toasty and works very well when sitting on the snow around a fire.

Good luck!

+1 on the VB socks, I was just about to rec the same thing, worth a try. And cost nothing to experiment with plastic bags. The thinnest possible layer against the skin ( since it will get damp) just helps reduce the icky feeling of damp VB in contact with skin. http://warmlite.com/warmlite-vapor-barrier-clothing makes some VB socks lined with "Fuzzy stuff " ( ~ $8 ) that feels better to me than a separate sock layer. I think their "fuzzy stuff" VB shirt also feels better than most VB setups I have tried. But: A liner sock layer plus the plastic bag layer ( bread sacks? ) will jst mean you need even a larger outer sock size to keep every thing loose, avoiding circulation problems and the cold feet that causes!

Some folks here have complained of condensation getting their TQ's foot box damp when using a leg pad, apparently solved by putting the pad inside the foot box. Also, I remember reading from the BPL people about foot box loss of loft on their down bags/quilts way before having problems in the rest of their bags. And the one time I did not use a space blanket(VB) and also had lots of condensation in my HH Super Shelter, it was all in the foot area. So, I'm thinking maybe feet really crank out the vapor? If this problem really is mostly from the feet and not much from the lower legs also, VB socks should stop all of it cold. And should also stop any lack of warmth caused by the above dampness in the foot area insulation. Plus of course stop all evaporative cooling of the feet even before the insulation becomes damp.

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