you can quite easily sack someone witin their first year if they're not working out without much worry at all. The recruitment process, like it or not, is very time consuming and companies use recruiters to save time, however, the comany I work for IS trying to save money by recruiting directly. I honestly think it's a false economy for a small employer but that's just IMHO.

How can you quite easily sack someone in the first year if things are not working out? I understand that you could do this if the person is still in some kind of three month trial but if they are a permanent worker surely it's the same as any other permanent member of staff?

How can you quite easily sack someone in the first year if things are not working out? I understand that you could do this if the person is still in some kind of three month trial but if they are a permanent worker surely it's the same as any other permanent member of staff?

You don't get full employment rights until after 1 year. The conservatives (or coalition) are trying to make it 2 years. You can't win an unfair dismissal case if you are sacked in the first year.

NOTE WELL: I am just a guy posting on the internet. This is not supposed to be taken as proper legal advice

Having said that, I'm quite confident about this but will gladly stand corrected if there are any HR professionals reading.

And even then you would have to be a disabled lesbian ethnic minority who is pregnant to win!

It is a fact that employment tribunals almost always favour the employee. The whole system (after a year) is anti employer. No employer will "unfairly dismiss" someone if they are good at their job. If they do they won't be in business for long.

It is a fact that employment tribunals almost always favour the employee. The whole system (after a year) is anti employer. No employer will "unfairly dismiss" someone if they are good at their job. If they do they won't be in business for long.[/quote]

Not correct. I was "constructively dismissed" proving it is another matter. I was the best at my job earned the company a fortune and complete contracts ahead of time enhanced the company's reputation the lot. In fact I did EVERYTHING they wanted and more. i lived for the bloody job.

My reward, no bonus, no pay rise, no PRP, four different line managers all useless all needing carrying and in the end they forced me out by giving me ever more impossible deadlines and bullying, in the FULL KNOWLEDGE I had been off sick with stress!

I claimed on my home insurance for legal expenses to pay for representation. By the way everyone should add this cover cost £15 covers £50,000 of expenses.

They passed my claim and sent what was my INITIAL Supporting documents to their appointed solicitor.The solicitor then gave it to a JUNIOR/trainee who looked at the chances of success from the information he had.I told him I had loads more proof and it would take several weeks to go through it all, including secretly recordings of meetings with my employer which proved their "guilt"The trainees solicitor went out of his way to be negative and find reasons why my claim had the potential to fail. He then recommended to my insurer, without any contact with me that in his opinion, my case has a less than 50% chance of success and my insurer therefore withdrew cover.The solicitor then said they would act for me directly but I would be responsible for their expensive hourly rates. Even a letter would have cost me £150 even if I drafted it myself.

Finally I discovered the most I could get was about £50k and that was not guaranteed even if I won, the whole process would have taken up to two years (if my employer had not settled out of court) even with a solicitor so I let it drop fro my own sanity if nothing else.

Even with hindsight it was the right thing to do. With a couple of other matters, a claim in the County Court for monies owed and a Data Protection breach the employer lied in sworn statements and "lost" in both cases.

From my experience, I would advise everyone to join a union, even if you are in management being a union member can make all the difference.