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For the event in deep water (at least for US players) it seems that most players don't want to use their pretty ship or have already lost their ship and are therefore forced to use store bought ships. The Deep water events seems relatively easy to get the 20k damage even without players around since there are enough AI ships to kill in the patrol zone.

It's a suicide mission - who brings their Maserati to a suicide mission?

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So, basically sail a disposable oak/oak ship packed with carronades up there and play bumper boats for one battle hoping you get your 20k damage before getting sunk. Then build another oak/oak ship to do the same, etc, etc. It doesn't really seem like an authentic PVP experience.

Still struggling to find a game motivation for risking good ships in PvP, which is what we really need.

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OW pvp doesn't exist anymore, we can still craft and trade... that's about it now.

It does for me - now if I want to get some engaging PvP, I don't have to go to a nearest capital and pray that someone will gank me (which worked 1 on 2 days). I just go to the zone, join the fight, or find someone to tag. Everyone in the zone is ready to fight as well.

13 hours ago, Barbancourt (rownd) said:

Unless you're in the biggest gank group you're guaranteed to sink.

Even if you're on a loosing side, you're not guaranteed to sink. I didn't sink a few times already being in a disadvantaged group.

Having said this, sink ratio is quite high - you could expect approx. 45%. There's no point bringing a ship you can't loose to a fight. It's best to bring 3-4 rate (depending on your skill), so that you are guaranteed to get 10 PvP marks even if you get sunk (plus PvP marks for everyone you will sink).

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Even if you're on a loosing side, you're not guaranteed to sink. I didn't sink a few times already being in a disadvantaged group.

Having said this, sink ratio is quite high - you could expect approx. 45%. There's no point bringing a ship you can't loose to a fight. It's best to bring 3-4 rate (depending on your skill), so that you are guaranteed to get 10 PvP marks even if you get sunk (plus PvP marks for everyone you will sink).

LeL - well, I'm guaranteed to sink anyway. Fortunately I still have those free agamemnons from Global to throw away.