He’s undermining our prime ministers position in trying to get this deal through parliament. If this isn’t interference then I don’t know what is.

Obama got heavily criticised for coming out and supporting our then prime minister.

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Obama threatened the British people that if they vote leave we’d be at the back of the queue. Trump has said he’s not sure if this deal means we can do trade with the USA, I’m sure the ministers can make that decision for themselves. You’re barking mad.

Do you think the outcome would have been any different if Call me Dave was in charge?

What Tony Blair did was wrong. I agree with you, I think it would have been exactly the same outcome if Cameron or May would have been in charge, there were lots of issues including control of oil reserves.

What Tony Blair did was wrong. I agree with you, I think it would have been exactly the same outcome if Cameron or May would have been in charge, there were lots of issues including control of oil reserves.

Trade freely with America ??? What he means is trade on American terms ! America first.

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You could be right but still, he wasn't undermining May. Trump, like other American politicians would love to be selling us their crappy chlorinated chicken and getting their fingers into the NHS. However, why would he try to undermine May now when he's often said we should choose leave?

You could be right but still, he wasn't undermining May. Trump, like other American politicians would love to be selling us their crappy chlorinated chicken and getting their fingers into the NHS. However, why would he try to undermine May now when he's often said we should choose leave?

Of course he undermined the deal, whether he intended to or not. Trump rarely actually knows what he’s saying and why so he may well have thought he was being helpful. Who knows, he’s a bit thick. He said it was a good deal for the EU, said it might mean that we can’t strike a trade deal with the US and implied that May possibly didn’t realise the implications of the deal and that she might want to go back amd try to change it, which she’s clearly stated she can’t or won’t. And on top of that, she’s publicly disagreed with Trump’s assessment today.

Of course he undermined the deal, whether he intended to or not. Trump rarely actually knows what he’s saying and why so he may well have thought he was being helpful. Who knows, he’s a bit thick. He said it was a good deal for the EU, said it might mean that we can’t strike a trade deal with the US and implied that May possibly didn’t realise the implications of the deal and that she might want to go back amd try to change it, which she’s clearly stated she can’t or won’t. And on top of that, she’s publicly disagreed with Trump’s assessment today.

This is getting to be like newspeak sometimes.

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Who doesn't agree it's a good deal for the EU though, he's stating a fact. Trump is a loudmouthed hothead, if he'd been trying to undermine May I think we'd all see it very clearly. AtD again I guess.

Who doesn't agree it's a good deal for the EU though, he's stating a fact. Trump is a loudmouthed hothead, if he'd been trying to undermine May I think we'd all see it very clearly. AtD again I guess.

Many in the EU think it’s a bad deal for the EU. Having the U.K. in limbo within its customs union indefinitely is not good for the EU to carry out robust trade discussions and deals around the world. You need to be able to quantify your own market and it’s value when puttting it on the table for trade talks and the U.K. is a huge chunk that could leave at any point:

Philip Hammond: Theresa May's Brexit deal better than staying in EU. The chancellor, Philip Hammond, has hit back at criticism of Theresa May’s Brexit deal, arguing that it is a better option than staying in the EU.

Philip Hammond: Theresa May's Brexit deal better than staying in EU. The chancellor, Philip Hammond, has hit back at criticism of Theresa May’s Brexit deal, arguing that it is a better option than staying in the EU.

Didn’t pipe up then did you feckwit.

He's talking about 2 different things.

In point 1, he's talking about each leave scenario being worse economically, including May's deal.

In point 2, he was deflecting DUP criticism, saying that staying in the EU would be a betrayal of the referendum result. That we need to make the best of it (even if it'll be worse economically).