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Now that LucasArts no longer exists (and hadn't made a decent game in years anyway) the only company still in existence which has ever made a better Star Wars game than BioWare has is Obsidian, so this news really isn't that bad.

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Originally posted by ShakyMoName a good star wars game made with ea in charge.

Kotor was prior to ea buyout, Kotor 2 was obsidian.

There has only been one Star Wars game made by Bioware since EA was in charge, but I can name you 4 amaizing Bioware games made since EA was "in charge". Not to mention that the 1 star was game may have been a sub par MMO, it was pretty good as a story driven star wars game in general...much better than the force unleashed.

Keep in mind that SWTOR was made by Bioware Austin as well, a completly diff studio than ME/KOTOR.

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What many here are trying to point out is that we would actually like to see a f#cking original game put out for Star Wars that isn't just a re-skinned client of some other game.

Define what you mean by original. The only thing inherently different about a Star Wars game than any other game is the specific impacts on the story that result from use of the IP. EA has already proven they can provide Star Wars stories that go beyond the cliched "Jedi Knight Saves the Galaxy" standard for Star Wars gaming. Most of the class stories in TOR were unprecedented in Star Wars games, and better executed than those in most modern RPGs. Is BioWare's writing as good as Obsidian's? Most of the time, no, but it is still better than almost any other game company can produce. And if you are going to respond with some argument about story not being what matters, then you don't really care about the Star Wars aspect of the games anyway, do you?

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Originally posted by ShakyMoThe story I played in swtor - trooper, was poor.

Bioware may have had good writers once, but to say so on the evidence of swtor is loopy.

It doesn't have "better story than most rpgs, except obsidians"

Hell bethseda and cdprojekt do better story for a start. There's even mmos that do storey better - tsw.

Haven't gotten far on Trooper myself. Agent was excellent. Several others were good, with the average quality of writing (both class and shared) being substantially higher on the Imperial side of the game. Several class stories were better than the central narrative in the first KotOR.

As for TSW (and any Bethesda game since Daggerfall for that matter) they are completely lacking in a very important element in a compelling narrative; a well presented protagonist. A story driven game doesn't necessarily need a player character as heavily defined as the one in Mass Effect, but in TSW or Bethesda games, there is no character there at all, just a graphical avatar who interacts with the non-narrative aspects of the game world. The narrative is completely non-participatory in such games, you simply earn the right to observe a static story of which you aren't really a part by completing gameplay objectives. BioWare and Obsidian on the other hand emphasize giving an actual narrative identity to the player character, and giving the player a degree of control over how that identity is shaped.

Though I will grant you, if you don't care about your character actually being a character rather than just an avatar, it is more than fair to say the story in TSW is stronger than in TOR. But I would say that generally speaking, when talking about an interactive medium like computer games, participatory story is superior to non-participatory story. It can be more than a little jarring to have choices during gameplay, then have all choice vanish into thin air any time you enter a narrative interaction with another character.

To get back to the main thrust of the thread, the simple fact that EA has the publishing rights to Star Wars games is not a legitimate cause for alarm when BioWare is still, at worst, the second-best currently existing development house to ever release a Star Wars game. And let's face it, with Disney's obvious disdain for non-mobile gaming, they were never going to want to pay enough attention to the licensing to license things on a game by game basis, which is the only way Obsidian could have ever hoped to afford a license.

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Nooooo! In my heart of hearts, I so want SWG to be resurrected and just knew that Disney would set right all the wrong decisions made by SOE and Lucas Arts. It is apparent now that no MMO will ever again bring such amazing things as the crafting, resource gathering and housing that SWG accomplished. Disney has broken my heart.

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Originally posted by EcnaliNooooo! In my heart of hearts, I so want SWG to be resurrected and just knew that Disney would set right all the wrong decisions made by SOE and Lucas Arts. It is apparent now that no MMO will ever again bring such amazing things as the crafting, resource gathering and housing that SWG accomplished. Disney has broken my heart.

You will never see the type of game swg was with any major IP again. It simply won't make the kind of money these companies are looking for. Sure, it could turn a profit but no where near what a loot-grind, cash shop game could make.

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As long as Bioware has a hand in everything NOT mmo related, this has potential to turn out well for gamers. Bioware did extremely well on KOTOR I&II. We'll see if EA allows them to return to the single-player Star Wars-type.

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Doesn't sound like good news to me. I've been gaming a long time now and I've seen EA go through some serious dissapointments. It's just too bad they are one of the major players in the market with such a shitty track record.

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Originally posted by tokyo121

As long as Bioware has a hand in everything NOT mmo related, this has potential to turn out well for gamers. Bioware did extremely well on KOTOR I&II. We'll see if EA allows them to return to the single-player Star Wars-type.

Obsidian made KotOR II.

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