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Make that Piss on all moderators,ignorers,"personal" posters.If censorship on this site by any individual was prohibited the snowflakes would leave. Can't handle a little truth.

Fuck those that call this spamming.G.W.Bush & Republicans maimed & murdered 4801 AMERICAN based on trash Republicans' LIE.Fuck you Republicans to Hell & back. Republicans are the dregs of the Clever Ape species.I'll get one a crying towel if they are offended.

Don't talk about other users! Just leave them with nothing.

Bet I couldn't say this on any other site,maybe once before being banned.

How can anyone still believe the Russia bullshit after it was so thoroughly discredited after more than two years of the most fanatical and partisan investigation in history?

Because they suffer from clinical TDS where FACTS! do not matter. It does not matter also that Russian puppet Trump killed 200-300 Russians in Syria, which is the largest number of Russian troops killed by Americans in one engagement ever, and it does not matter that Obama never challenged Russians in Syria.

And the sad part is that one can find a lot of stuff to criticize Trump, but it is easier not to think so lets trot out things that are false.

Their continuous spin and lies about Trump certainly seem to be a major factor in spreading this disease. They hyped the Russia lie for nearly 2 and a half years, and it was entirely bullshit.

And it is counterproductive even from the point of TDS sufferers (other than them being able to achieve mental orgasms from bashing t-RUMP). Trump has a lot to be criticized about but they focus on emotionally satisfying issues that are either false or immaterial, thus destroying their and MSM already nonexistent credibility.I blame our education system, where FACTS ARE VIOLENCE AND LOGIC IS WHITE HETERO-PATRIARCHAL OPPRESSION.

Their continuous spin and lies about Trump certainly seem to be a major factor in spreading this disease. They hyped the Russia lie for nearly 2 and a half years, and it was entirely bullshit.

@Patrick - you mentioned in a recent thread that generations will repeat the same mistakes over and over. Young people will always be impressionable.

Because of this, the mainstream media can be dangerous when they predominantly report from an angle.

As people get older, wiser, and more experienced, it’s not surprising that the political trend goes from democrat to republican. And what can be more revealing? As people get older, wiser, and more experienced, they gravitate towards one a particular side of the political spectrum. How reassuring is that democrats?

“If you are young and conservative, you have no heart. If you are old and liberal, you have no brain”

Perhaps one of Donald’s greatest accomplishments during his presidency is exposing the mainstream media.

Yes, the old media of newspapers and TV has consistently lied about Trump, which should be clear to everyone by now, especially after the Russia hoax. They are completely dead as a source of objective news.

Their revenue was almost completely shifted to Google and Facebook, which are unfortunately also dedicated to suppressing news they don't like. Their censorship has really ramped up lately, no doubt because of the 2020 election.

How can anyone still believe the Russia bullshit after it was so thoroughly discredited after more than two years of the most fanatical and partisan investigation in history?

It didn't feel fanatical or partisan to me. I guess some of the commentary about it was partisan. And wile I thought it might implicate Trump, I honestly thought and I believe most people thought that they probably would not find reason to indict Trump. So it was mostly ended up being what people thought all along.

THe surprise was that he probably did obstruct justice, but just not enough to indict a sitting President.

I don't see how this is some major vindication for Trump. Right wingers liketo say he's the most investigated President ever ? Really. I don't know.

He is certainly the least transparent President ever, about his finances, his taxes and his business dealings.

WE certainly have never had a President that constantly acted as if they have everything to hide as much a Trump does.

He is certainly the least transparent President ever, about his finances, his taxes and his business dealings.

What is the concern with his business dealings? If he makes money in Russia, what's the big deal? He'd be extracting some money from Russia and bringing it here. Is that good for Russia? And isn't this what the Democrats wanted in the first place? A global economy.

Obama even gave up on manufacturing jobs here and basically understood we're a global economy now. And don't think for a second that no democrat (or other Republican) isn't making money in Russia in some way shape or form. Was Obama a traitor for just giving up on manufacturing and being happy we're sending China tons of money to make our products?

There's so much faux outrage over something that has been pushed by both parties. If you got his taxes and saw he made money in Russia, what would you even say to that? Or anywhere for that matter? Outside of Iran and North Korea you've got money invested somehow in another country that you probably don't like through a pension or 401k fund. So make sure to beat yourself up at the end of the day you treasonous traitor (being sarcastic, not actually call you that).

It's sad to see people deny what has been obvious for decades and only highlighted in deeper relief by recent investigations:

A bankrupted Trump Organization was integrated into the Russian money laundering plexus animated by Deutsche Bank. The guy was a punchline inside of any bank in the world, if anything, until DB wrote their first notes for him in the late 1990s.

Trump, a genius? The only real president? The last hope of freedom?

How about an unfortunate side effect of the Soviet Union's dissolution?

One of the many curses of our existing oligarchy is that discussion is stopped by oligarchs who have used their increasing power to disinform us to the point where we no longer share a reality, but we recite and prefer lies that make us better than the other people. Tribal country posturing.

America is good to young well trained physically competitive people who model silent obedience. Remove any of those qualities and you are fucked worse than so many other countries, unless your investments are secure enough to carry you.

We owe our veterans a better country to come home to than this nation at war with everyone who has wealth to capture.

I will forever be indebted to Trump for finally, inexorably tossing up the skirts of the Globalists, exposing the carrion press for what it really is, and revealing the country destroying corruption of the Democratic Party and it's sock puppets. I don't care if he is a self aggrandizing lout or whatever, he has performed a service, unconsciously or not, of rolling out the tide of the swamp to reveal all the garbage and feces. Even if one were to argue he is part of it, it wouldn't have become so vividly clear if he hadn't been elected.

I wouldn't trust the NYT, CNN or WAPO etc. etc. with an egg boiling recipe.

It does mean that getting information about the world and history is a much more laborious, painstaking process and requires layers of information cross checking and elimination. It's out there, it just takes a lot more work.

One of the many curses of our existing oligarchy is that discussion is stopped by oligarchs who have used their increasing power to disinform us to the point where we no longer share a reality, but we recite and prefer lies that make us better than the other people. Tribal country posturing.

You’re not wrong. CNN, WaPo, Facebook, Google, and most of the rest of the media have carefully crafted and filtered the news to support the oligarch narrative. Their idea of activism is supporting causes that divide the American public by racial, class, religious, cultural, and political lines. Every march, demonstration, or protest they cover is in support of one divisive cause or another. Never ever will they favorably review any activism that is intended to heal our differences, rather than divide us further. Oh and who owns all these media sources? Why the oligarchs!

How can you be so close to right, and then twist it up until you’re completely wrong? Most confusing poster on the site, and that includes the Bass.

I wouldn't trust the NYT, CNN or WAPO etc. etc. with an egg boiling recipe.

It does mean that getting information about the world and history is a much more laborious, painstaking process and requires layers of information cross checking and elimination. It's out there, it just takes a lot more work.