I assume that most of the people might believe him a cheater and take him completely out their system but I won't, period.
From here, I don't think it will help him much, but I will support him coz I trust his words and behaviour.

I dunno if he's gonna be found guilty or not, punished or else.
I'm gonna be here for the great player and person he is!!! :bounce:

You can join me ;)

:kiss: :kiss: Willy :kiss: :kiss:

basil333

06-22-2005, 03:33 PM

I hope that Canas gets cleared too.

It sounds to me (and I am no expert) that he is having a similar problem that Lindford Christie (an extremely top British Athlete of the 1980 & 1990s) had - he nearly had his Olympic medals stripped from him - he tested positive and it shook him completely - as it was completely out of his character and a huge surprise for him to be accused - and the result was it was found he drank Ginseng Tea - I think this was the time of Seoul Olympics - which he felt it rude if he refused the drink at an official occasion.

The elements in the Ginseng Tea were the culprits in his positive test.

Fingers crossed that Willy gets cleared.....

------
From GB Heroes TimeLine - Lindford Christie

1988: Third behind Ben Johnson, right, and Carl Lewis in the 100m final at Seoul Olympics. Awarded silver after Johnson tests positive for steroids. Days later, Christie tests positive for pseudoephedrine, but keeps silver after authorities accept ephedrine had come from ginseng tea. Later admits he had "thought about suicide"

jazz_girl

06-22-2005, 03:39 PM

I'm with you Denaon! :yeah:

Choupi

06-22-2005, 03:40 PM

I wish he'll find the ways to get cleared as well as the strength to cope with the media/ppl pressure.

*Ljubica*

06-22-2005, 03:59 PM

I wanted to Rep you for starting this thread Denaon, but it says I have to spread the love first! So I will say thanks here, and I am with you 100% of the way. I totally believe in Willy's innocence and will support him whatever happens - he is a class act and I respect him enormously.

Sommarsverige

06-22-2005, 05:26 PM

Many thanks also from me for starting this thread, Denaon :hug:

I still can´t believe this and still think it is a bad nightmare. If there is a player, I totally trust in, Willy would be one of them. So I am also to 100% sure that he is innocent, and I really hope this can be confirmed very soon.
I am thinking of him and the nightmare he must go through right now :sad:

He is definitely one of the nicest guys on the tour and he has definitely not deserved something like this. I really hope he is close people with him now in this terrible situation and I also hope he can come back very soon to what we love to see him - fighting on the tennis court. :)

adelaide

06-22-2005, 06:31 PM

fingers & toes crossed, i hope it's not true. i really like Willy :)
i just hope this wouldn't affect him too much :sad:

victoria_maraude

06-22-2005, 06:56 PM

Willy, you have all our support!
I really believe he's innocent. Why would a player risk his career knowing he could be caught? I'm sure he didn't do anything wrong and it all will be clear in a short time.
Fuerza Willy! Estamos con vos.... ;)

sol

06-22-2005, 07:02 PM

I'm supporting Willy as well :hug: :hug: :hug:

Julio1974

06-22-2005, 07:05 PM

Good luck Willy !!!

Corina2605

06-22-2005, 07:54 PM

My friend being a huge fan of Willy I got to talk to him at some tournaments last year and I really appreciated his friendliness. I support him too and I do hope he can prove his innocence. Good luck and stay strong!!

kenny sf

06-22-2005, 08:05 PM

I believe Canas. He is my favorite player. One article stated that it was a diuretic that they found. The reason it is on the list is that if someone takes a diuretic it may be because they are making themselves urinate more to rid themselves of a drug. The problem with this is even an herbal tea may be a diuretic. I mean really, even coffee makes me pee. I feel bad for him. I know he will get through this.

Kenny from California

coriaelmago

06-22-2005, 09:22 PM

i believe in you Canas!!
he'sn't my favoutite player beu i appreciate him very much! he plays very well and i'm sure he's innocent!!!!

Caralimon

06-22-2005, 09:28 PM

You're going to get through this, I'm sure.

NicoFan

06-22-2005, 11:33 PM

I definitely support him.

I think the ATP has it in for the Argentine players. :sad:

Tricky_Forehand

06-23-2005, 02:40 AM

Thank you for starting this thread, Denaon. I only hope that Willy is cleared and not punished...maybe given a warning to pay closer attention to ingredients. This almost reminds me of Graydon Oliver's situation a year ago but I hope that Willy won't have to serve any suspension time.

Tricky_Forehand

06-23-2005, 02:41 AM

I definitely support him.

I think the ATP has it in for the Argentine players. :sad:

Sure as hell seems like it :rolleyes:

justClaudia

06-23-2005, 09:59 AM

Thanks for starting this thread Denaon ;)

I'm with you too.
Willy deserves all my respect and support.

Action Jackson

06-23-2005, 10:24 AM

No problem in supporting Willy as I have said on GM there are a few things that are a bit sus about this. One, it should be the WADA doing the testing and not the ATP, as they have shown themselves to be incompetent on too many occasions.

Here are some questions

1. Why would a player take a banned substance during a tournament?
2. If they are going to do it, it would be done in the off season or non tournament week.
3. Why have there been no positive tests for EPO or NESP which are the most benefit for a tennis player for the endurance purposes.

These idiots couldn't even get the supplements right and allegedly it was the tournament director that gave him some medicine to clear up chest congestion and well pseudoephidrine is the main ingredient of that and it's banned and something that would pass as a diuretic.

Interesting to say the least.

jazz_girl

06-23-2005, 10:36 AM

Amd why did this rumor start? These doping test happen during the year, and they are not known until after the trial, but why now? And to make things worse, now they're saying that the rumors in England is about a Spanish player in the same situation as Willy :rolleyes:
All the players have supported him: Coria, Nalbandian, Ferrero, Nadal, Massu, among others, except Big Mac, who said: "Knowing where he comes from, it doesn't surprise me" I just read in Clarín that he was in rehad for cocain, so I wouldn't pay attention to what he says...
Have I said how mad I am? :mad:

justClaudia

06-23-2005, 10:46 AM

Jazz...that person is not to be listened to...he might as well go screw himself.

I never liked him...and he is also loosing my respect.

"Knowing where he comes from" WTF is that....

DanEd

06-23-2005, 01:53 PM

common Willy Cañas, everything will be ok :hug: :)

sigmagirl91

06-23-2005, 02:27 PM

Go, Willy. We believe in you!

sigmagirl91

06-23-2005, 02:27 PM

Amd why did this rumor start? These doping test happen during the year, and they are not known until after the trial, but why now? And to make things worse, now they're saying that the rumors in England is about a Spanish player in the same situation as Willy :rolleyes:
All the players have supported him: Coria, Nalbandian, Ferrero, Nadal, Massu, among others, except Big Mac, who said: "Knowing where he comes from, it doesn't surprise me" I just read in Clarín that he was in rehad for cocain, so I wouldn't pay attention to what he says...
Have I said how mad I am? :mad:

Why would anyone believe anything Mac says?

enqvistfan

06-23-2005, 07:56 PM

I saw the news today in a French newspaper. Apparently, he doesn't know what he took. So... Personnally, I don't think he's the only one...

I was just watching Maradona on tv, and he was talking about his life, and how well he is now and then he spoke on the phone live with Manu Ginobili, and before it finished he asked for a few minutes to send a message to Willy and he said that he supports him 100%, that he believes in him and he was very hard against the journalism, and I completly agree with him. He said that there's no such thing as a possible doping, it's either positive or negative, and talking before it's confirmed is very low from the journalism, cause that way they're immediatly putting that person as guilty, and will mark him forever, for something he didn't do. :yeah:

*Ljubica*

06-25-2005, 10:38 AM

Two Argentine players have spoken out in support of Willy. Agustin Calleri and Edgardo Massa have both given him their support in an article in Ole (link at bottom of page.

Calleri and Massa also support Willy Cañas.

Before travelling to Biella (Italy), where he will return to the circuit with his new coach Francisco Yunis, Agustín Calleri supported Guillermo Cañas over the doping case. "He is a healthy person, I know him very well and I
know that he did not take anything", he said. "It must be an error and I hope
that the situation is resolved quickly". Also Edgardo Massa
thought, "Great people do not abound on the circuit but Willy is
one of them. We have worked together and I am sure that he
is innocent ".

It´s good to see that so many people and especially other Argentines are supporting Willy. Let´s hope that his innocence will be sure soon.

revolution

06-28-2005, 02:13 AM

I think he's innocent too. Supplements are probably to blame, as it was with Rusedski.

Gaston

07-10-2005, 07:39 PM

I believe Willy as well.

DanEd

07-13-2005, 08:08 PM

Any new news about Willy Cañas? I hope he is ok :hug:

Denaon

07-13-2005, 08:13 PM

:lol: Your avie DanEd! :lol:
I know nothing about Willy, I hope he's doing well too.
And I hope we can have some info about him too, cannot handle uncertainty very well :unsure:

LaTenista

07-14-2005, 07:10 PM

:o Cannot believe it took me this long to get over to this thread.

The first live tennis match I ever attended was Cañas vs Sampras at Cincy 2002. It was a 3 set thriller (Pete won) and I've had immense respect for Willy ever since, esp. considering he had won Toronto the week before, beating Roddick in the final.

I totally support Willy and hope this matter is cleared up soon. I'm glad so many players have stood up for him. I really want to see him this year in Cincy again.

:sad: A healthy, unaccused Willy could have surely helped the Argentine Davis Cup team to victory over Australia.

Johnny Mac is a complete twat IMHO. He can't even say Rafael Nadal's name right! Complete rubbish. I've read his book, he talks about throwing matches/games - a real sportsman who had respect for tennis would never do that. Don't get me started about his drug use :mad:

DanEd

07-14-2005, 08:07 PM

J MacEnroe took a drug for horses, right?
:o Cannot believe it took me this long to get over to this thread.

The first live tennis match I ever attended was Cañas vs Sampras at Cincy 2002. It was a 3 set thriller (Pete won) and I've had immense respect for Willy ever since, esp. considering he had won Toronto the week before, beating Roddick in the final.

I totally support Willy and hope this matter is cleared up soon. I'm glad so many players have stood up for him. I really want to see him this year in Cincy again.

:sad: A healthy, unaccused Willy could have surely helped the Argentine Davis Cup team to victory over Australia.

Johnny Mac is a complete twat IMHO. He can't even say Rafael Nadal's name right! Complete rubbish. I've read his book, he talks about throwing matches/games - a real sportsman who had respect for tennis would never do that. Don't get me started about his drug use :mad:

I♥PsY@Mus!c

07-18-2005, 12:13 AM

I believe he is innocent. :)

*Ljubica*

07-18-2005, 05:31 PM

I understand Willy's hearing is on Wednesday this week (20th July) - I hope it all works out for him.

Thanks Rosie, I hadn't seen the article :o
Good luck Willy, I trust in you. :smooch:

Sommarsverige

07-19-2005, 08:21 PM

Willy, we all believe you are innocent :hug:
Wishing you all the best

jazz_girl

07-21-2005, 11:47 AM

Willy's in New York now declaring in his trial. He did it yesterday, and I think it'll conclude today. Although he won't know the veredict till 5 to 20 days.
Willy, we're with you!

*Ljubica*

07-21-2005, 11:51 AM

Why the hell do they have to drag it out for so long? It's been 5 months since the supposed "incident", and now they have the hearing, drag the poor guy to New York and then wait another 5-20 days to deliver their verdicts. I hope they tell Willy before that and don't make him suffer another 3 weeks before knowing. Take care Willy and be strong.

jazz_girl

07-21-2005, 12:06 PM

And if Willy doesn't agree with the veredict he can go to Switzerland and appeal it.

Argentine tennis player Guillermo Cañas, accompanied by his coach Hernan Gumy and physical Trainen, Fernando Cao, completed the second and final day of his presentation at the ATP hearing yesterday. At this hearing the governing body of mens' tennis are carrying out their investigations in the doping allegations against him.

Now, the player from Tapiales will have to wait for their verdict. The ATP found a positive sample in random tests on Cañas, aged 27, during the Acapulco tournament held between 21st-27th February this year. The player attests that he used the substance as a diuretic, but taking it must be done with great care, as it is a substance that can be used to help hide the consumption of other drugs in the body. If the tennis player is not in agreement with the verdict of the ATP hearing, he has the chance to appeal to a higher Court, but their decision will be definative and there is no other recourse to appeal.

Sorry - can't gind a link to the article at the moment.

sigmagirl91

07-23-2005, 11:13 AM

The player attests that he used the substance as a diuretic, but taking it must be done with great care, as it is a substance that can be used to help hide the consumption of other drugs in the body.

Now, this can become complicated. I really hope Willy is innocent and cleared of any wrongdoing. I can only imagine what would happen if he were declared guilty.

Aguante_el_Gato

07-28-2005, 09:22 PM

The player attests that he used the substance as a diuretic, but taking it must be done with great care, as it is a substance that can be used to help hide the consumption of other drugs in the body.
this is not exactly what the article says in the original version (spanish)
something more accurate would be:
In the analysis that was made to the player, rest of diuretic's were found and its entrance must be demonstrated with great care, as it is a substance that can be used to help hide the consumption of other drugs in the body. (article didn't say that he recognized the diuretic consumption ;)

Lottie09

07-29-2005, 02:03 PM

Thanks so much for the update, guys...
:sad: :sad: :sad:
I can't be too optimistic now that it's been confirmed he took diuretics. There was a very similar incident in Australia in 2003, when the nation's best and most loved cricketer, Shane Warne, tested positive for diuretics and he was BANNED FOR 1 YEAR. It was unbelievable. Here's an excerpt from BBC if you're interested:

"Shane Warne has decided not to appeal against his 12-month ban from cricket after testing positive for a banned diuretic.

The 33-year-old leg spinner initially described the decision as "harsh" and said he had been the "victim of anti-doping hysteria".

He claimed he had taken a diuretic tablet on the advice of his mother in order to look better at a news conference."

I'm really sad for Argentine tennis, isn't he like the 4th tennis player to test positive in 5 years or something?
:sad: :sad: :sad:

*Ljubica*

07-29-2005, 02:59 PM

this is not exactly what the article says in the original version (spanish)
something more accurate would be:
In the analysis that was made to the player, rest of diuretic's were found and its entrance must be demonstrated with great care, as it is a substance that can be used to help hide the consumption of other drugs in the body. (article didn't say that he recognized the diuretic consumption ;)

OK - thanks - I know my Spanish translation is not so wonderful - but I know I have heard in various places that he did know he was taking the diuretics.

sigmagirl91

07-29-2005, 03:27 PM

this is not exactly what the article says in the original version (spanish)
something more accurate would be:
In the analysis that was made to the player, rest of diuretic's were found and its entrance must be demonstrated with great care, as it is a substance that can be used to help hide the consumption of other drugs in the body. (article didn't say that he recognized the diuretic consumption ;)

If that's the case, then it doesn't look too good for him.

knight_ley

08-03-2005, 01:28 AM

I just wanted to :hug: everyone in here and to Cañas as well... I'm a fan of his and believe him when he says he's innocent. Hopefully this whole mess will be cleaned up sooner rather than later....

:hug:

*Ljubica*

08-03-2005, 05:28 AM

I just wanted to :hug: everyone in here and to Cañas as well... I'm a fan of his and believe him when he says he's innocent. Hopefully this whole mess will be cleaned up sooner rather than later....

:hug:

Thank you so much :hug:

Denaon

08-04-2005, 04:40 PM

I just wanted to :hug: everyone in here and to Cañas as well... I'm a fan of his and believe him when he says he's innocent. Hopefully this whole mess will be cleaned up sooner rather than later....

:hug:
:hug: Thx! It's taking a while now, I dunno how much will Willy have to wait....:awww: I hope he's dealing with this well....at least he's got good company, Maria Emilia's surely supporting him all the way....

Vamos Feńa

08-06-2005, 11:25 AM

Hello :wavey:
I must tell you that I believe Willy is an inocent and for me Willy is a nice player and he has now my support :hug:
Come back Willy :sad: Proud to be a fan of Fernando and You!:hug:

Mc Enroe just shut up you idiot, he thinks he was great so he can say such things :fiery: You're pathetic!

Denaon

08-08-2005, 08:49 PM

I feel like shit.........2 years???????
:sobbing:
I'm not in the mood of posting anything but curses :mad: If anyone wants to post links or article please..... :sad:

psichogaucho

08-08-2005, 10:09 PM

:sad:
fuerza Willy!

justClaudia

08-08-2005, 10:28 PM

I'm so...I don't even know what to write...was not expecting this at all.Willy must be devastated..

2 years is just too much.

Stay strong Guillermo.

sigmagirl91

08-08-2005, 10:30 PM

Boy...I am speechless. He's worked so hard to get back near the top, and this? I think it may be over for him.

Eugenia

08-08-2005, 10:40 PM

I was watching the David Nalbandian vs. Juan Chela match and then my mum told me the bad news... Since then, I fell really bad about Willy, I remember his last match on tour when he played to Safin in Halle... I miss him so much since that time, I can't believe that they gave him 2 years out of the courts... Please Willy come back, no mather what!!! :crying2:

Cañas can still appeal to reduce the suspension... I hope he can do something...

justClaudia

08-08-2005, 11:02 PM

I hope this is not the end for him.
For the fighter he is,I think he deserves better.

But 2 years is a long time.
Guillermo will miss too much...
I think I read somwhere, he will be 30 when he gets back..

Nothing is impossible,but this is going to be hard time for him.

nicofan1

08-08-2005, 11:59 PM

I'm so sorry to hear about the results to Canas' doping case. :sad: Don't give up hope!! Stay positive for your man, he will be back.

a big hug to all Canas fans... And many sympathies...
Nico

Eugenia

08-09-2005, 01:35 AM

Willy was given a press conference in Buenos Aires like an hour ago. He said that he is not going to retire, so he will continue his tennis career. Then he said that the ATP system to detect drugs is wrong and that they made a big mistake with him.
Here are some Willy pics...

Lottie09

08-09-2005, 06:09 AM

This is a nightmare. I can't believe they gave Canas 2 years. :sad: I hope he has a very good lawyer to help him appeal the penalty.

Max. 9 months. would have been tolerable :awww:

sigmagirl91

08-09-2005, 09:00 AM

Willy was given a press conference in Buenos Aires like an hour ago. He said that he is not going to retire, so he will continue his tennis career. Then he said that the ATP system to detect drugs is wrong and that they made a big mistake with him.
Here are some Willy pics...

Hopefully, he can appeal to get the sentence reduced. He certainly won't be able to get out of it completely. Best of luck to you, Willy.

iloveupeterpan

08-09-2005, 09:33 AM

2 years....too harsh :(

Action Jackson

08-09-2005, 11:34 AM

Well if he is going to appeal, they will need a much better case to do so this time around.

novanora

08-09-2005, 01:41 PM

Poor Willy.....:sad:...I am soooo sad to hear this news...
They are cursed to give him 2 years' sentence :mad: He trained so hard, was always fighting for the best of his career, and it should have been very hopeful this year. :sad: Willy, don't give up, we are always with u!!

http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2005/08/08/um/canas.jpg

avocadoe

08-09-2005, 02:46 PM

Good luck with the Appeal, Willy....I'll root for you when you come back :)

Eléa

08-09-2005, 02:47 PM

I just want to bring all my support to all the Willie Fans :hug:
I'm not a huge fan of him myself, i just like him well but i can understand easily the way you feel. I really hope things will get better for him soon.

*Ljubica*

08-09-2005, 04:17 PM

I am so sad about this :sad: I didn't trust myself to post in the GM Forum because I know some of the rubbish people say there would have made me too angry - but just to say -I still support Willy and I still believe in him. Good Luck with the Appeal.

revolution

08-09-2005, 04:20 PM

If diuretics was all he took, then it proves how unfair it is. Good luck with the appeal.

Sommarsverige

08-09-2005, 10:00 PM

Because of the same reasons like Rosie I also decided to post here and not in the GM forum.

I haven´t been on mtf for a while because of holidays and the first thing I had to discover when I came back was that Willy has been suspended for 2 years.
I am still so shocked and can´t find the right words to express how I am feeling about it - it is just so sad and unbelievable! :sad: :sad: :sad:

Many people have written that Willy is guilty when he gets such a hard punishment, but I am still convinced that he is innocent!
I also wish him good luck with the appeal and whenever he will come back to the tour, he will get all my support!

Willy, your fans are always behind you and will support you whatever happens!!!

michelleg

08-09-2005, 11:56 PM

Likewise, I tried to withhold my anger at the posts on the GM forum, but after reading Peter Bodo's highly inflammatory and libelous blog there, I could not hold back.

Its truly tragic and sad to have all of this happen. I do hope that the truth be discovered and look forward to his return to tennis....sooner than later.

sigmagirl91

08-10-2005, 01:47 AM

Michelle, I read Peter's comments too, and like you, I was appalled at his comments. I don't know if it was written from a personal or professional standpoint, but it sure sounded inflammatory enough to merit its own court case. What do you all think?

Denaon

08-10-2005, 01:49 AM

Michelle, I read Peter's comments too, and like you, I was appalled at his comments. I don't know if it was written from a personal or professional standpoint, but it sure sounded inflammatory enough to merit its own court case. What do you all think?
Which comments? :confused:

sigmagirl91

08-10-2005, 08:12 AM

Which comments? :confused:

Go to the GM thread dedicated to this topic, entitled "Canas suspended for 2 years." Bodo's comments are discussed toward the end of the thread.

Action Jackson

08-10-2005, 09:20 AM

He didn't actually test positive for any drugs, it was a diuretic. As for GM, people can't be surprised that there was that kind of reaction, but those same people would change their spots soon enough.

Choupi

08-10-2005, 09:34 AM

I've read the very beginning of the thread on the GMs...But, convinced of the way it would get twisted by the usual haters, I haven't gone back. I don't feel like reading shitty comments made by ppl who, for the most part, don't know what they're talking about.

Willy, appeal and get cleaned, for good.

sigmagirl91

08-10-2005, 10:32 AM

He didn't actually test positive for any drugs, it was a diuretic. As for GM, people can't be surprised that there was that kind of reaction, but those same people would change their spots soon enough.

Although it was harsh, Willy's being suspended for 2 years (I hope this is overturned upon appeal) does bring out those kinds of discussions. It's not like GM is full of people with masters or doctorate degrees.

Action Jackson

08-10-2005, 10:45 AM

Although it was harsh, Willy's being suspended for 2 years (I hope this is overturned upon appeal) does bring out those kinds of discussions. It's not like GM is full of people with masters or doctorate degrees.

The silliest thing is that people don't believe preferential treatment within an organisation goes and why would the ATP be any different?

As I said at the time I am not saying either way my view of whether he is guilty or not, but like a really top player would get suspended.

Yes, this sort of thing is going to happen for sure in GM land.

Choupi

08-10-2005, 10:52 AM

It's not like GM is full of people with masters or doctorate degrees.
If this happens one day, I make myself a nun! :D

Denaon

08-10-2005, 12:06 PM

Go to the GM thread dedicated to this topic, entitled "Canas suspended for 2 years." Bodo's comments are discussed toward the end of the thread.
Ok, as many of you I decided not to read that thread any more. That's why I try not to post in GM, I get too mad and frustrated at the same time.
It brings out the worst of me. Sorry if I bothered any of you with my responses too.

Aguante_el_Gato

08-10-2005, 01:35 PM

Minutes ago, I was listening Willy live in the radio (with Gonzalo Bonadeo, an informed journalist and with much knowledge into the sport world, that for me deserves much respect).
These are some of the things that Willy said:

about himself,
- I'm well, now with more desire than ever to revert this
- for a month, I was training very strong, then I waited for a much smaller sanction (the last days playing tennis with Calleri)
- he thinks that he is going to need some psychologist aid, not to have to take this alone

about the sanction,
- he doesn't question the sanction, then he admits to have committed a negligence; what he questions is the term of the sanction (that is the maximum contemplated in the regulation), by the following reasons:
a/ there are antecedents of results with the same substance (diurétic), but with a much smaller sanction (I believe that he said 3 months)
b/ the diurétic doesn't make disappear other substances, only causes that the levels are below the tolerances, but being left signs, he says that in his analysis there were not even signs of no other substance. In addition he said that the density of his tinkles was normal, reason why apparently the diurétic not even would have made effect like so.

about the ATP he said,
- that the court wasn't impartial
- that he believes Richard Ings wants to return to Australia with the antecedent from have turned around a top ten during his management
- that he is annoying, then they not even respected 24hs that must have granted to him before communicating the sanction to press (he could warn his father 2 minutes before he saw it by TV, whereas his mother found out by TV)
- that during the last years the ATP has committed many errors, changing and improvising norms (ej: contamination of supplements, caffein, etc)

about the players,
- that he knows that there is much anger because they think that the sanction is excessive
- that he has already received the support from all the Argentine tennis players, and from Gonzalez, Massu, Moya, Nadal ( perhaps I forgets others)

So far, is everything what I remember.

I repeat since I have said in GM (where, either I don't think to waste more time writing) that I choose to continue believing in Willy.
I don't believe in the corporations nor companies (less even when they move much money), but in the people, and in this case Willy seems to me a reliable guy.

Denaon

08-10-2005, 01:49 PM

Minutes ago, I was listening Willy live in the radio (with Gonzalo Bonadeo, an informed journalist and with much knowledge into the sport world, that for me deserves much respect).
These are some of the things that Willy said:

about himself,
- I'm well, now with more desire than ever to revert this
- for a month, I was training very strong, then I waited for a much smaller sanction (the last days playing tennis with Calleri)
- he thinks that he is going to need some psychologist aid, not to have to take this alone

about the sanction,
- he doesn't question the sanction, then he admits to have committed a negligence; what he questions is the term of the sanction (that is the maximum contemplated in the regulation), by the following reasons:
a/ there are antecedents of results with the same substance (diurétic), but with a much smaller sanction (I believe that he said 3 months)
b/ the diurétic doesn't make disappear other substances, only causes that the levels are below the tolerances, but being left signs, he says that in his analysis there were not even signs of no other substance. In addition he said that the density of his tinkles was normal, reason why apparently the diurétic not even would have made effect like so.

about the ATP he said,
- that the court wasn't impartial
- that he believes Richard Ings wants to return to Australia with the antecedent from have turned around a top ten during his management
- that he is annoying, then they not even respected 24hs that must have granted to him before communicating the sanction to press (he could warn his father 2 minutes before he saw it by TV, whereas his mother found out by TV)
- that during the last years the ATP has committed many errors, changing and improvising norms (ej: contamination of supplements, caffein, etc)

about the players,
- that he knows that there is much anger because they think that the sanction is excessive
- that he has already received the support from all the Argentine tennis players, and from Gonzalez, Massu, Moya, Nadal ( perhaps I forgets others)

So far, is everything what I remember.

I repeat since I have said in GM (where, either I don't think to waste more time writing) that I choose to continue believing in Willy.
I don't believe in the corporations nor companies (less even when they move much money), but in the people, and in this case Willy seems to me a reliable guy.
:worship: :worship: Thanks so much for this post :worship: :worship:

michelleg

08-10-2005, 02:23 PM

Aguante, thank you for posting his comments.

Sigma, I seriously believe that there should be legal consequences for Bodo/Tennis Magazine for that blog, as it is highly defaming and smacks of libel. Whether any of the Argentines personally defamed by Bodo cares to take the matter up in court remains to be seen, but I think that it should be addressed appropriately by a lawsuit. I'd be happy to find counsel for the boys here in the states....

Denaon

08-10-2005, 03:00 PM

Clarin has posted a brief article about some radio declarations made by Willy, I think the same that Aguante's heard. Here's the link (spanish)

Thanks for posting Willy's comments Aguante, and to Denaon for the article.

jazz_girl

08-10-2005, 04:56 PM

Willy's in ESPN right now giving a very interesting interview. I'll tell you the gist of it later

jazz_girl

08-10-2005, 05:48 PM

If I was supporting Willy before this interview, now I'm doing it even more. To sum up, this is what he said:
*The whole trial was around one witness they had and it was the Mexican doctor Chinchilla. Willy asked him to be in the US, and he said he was gonna go there. Then the ATP calls him, and tells him he needs a Visa and can declare by phone. Hernán Gumy had the same problem, but could have his Visa in one day because he had to go to the trial as a witness, however Chinchilla didn't do the same, cause as he said "The ATP didn't tell me it was necessary for me to be there, if I knew it was important I would have been there"
*Then, Willy says he had a sore throat and went to see Chinchilla (the Acapulco doctor) and he gave him a receipe with the medication, the girls from the Acapulco organization bought him the medicine and he took it. The problem starts when he doesn't check the medicine, and apparently it wasn't the exact same thing the doctor ordered, but something similar.
*The doctor says he never saw Willy nor gave him any medications, and that it's impossible for him to buy some sore throat medications in the Chemist's because he has all those kind of medications in the tournament. However there's another Argentine player which Willy didn't want to name (but it's in the ATP case and it's Juan Monaco) who had the same sore throat, and he did gave him a receipe with the same medication as Willy, so the medications weren't in the tournament. First lie.
*Then, they realized they didn't put Juan in the reports as a player who was attended by a doctor, they forgot, just like they did with Willy. The reports have numbers and are all green. Those reports are signed by the doctors, then there are other reports which are red and signed by the trainers. Chinchilla sent false proove, saying that Monaco was in those reports, and he sent a red report singned by him. That shouldn't have been accepted, because it's obviously false. However the ATP accepted. So Willy wonders why they remember attending Juan, but not him...
*Then he says that Richard Ings has been asking the witnesses to be there at the trial by himself, while that's a lawyer's job. And once the sentence was made, they usually give the player 24 hours to tell the family how the thing is and prepare a press conference. They gave him the news at 3.11pm, and by 3.30pm there was a press release by the ATP, so his mother found out about this on the news.
*He doesn't understand why the doping news was in the press, who gave it away when he never said anything about it. Why all the rumors started?
*Why 2 years? Oliver had the same diuretic found in his body and he recieved a 3 months suspension. He recieves a worse penalty than a person who took something to take advantage. They found diuretic in his body and nothing else, no other things.
*He knows that there's nothing against Argentines, but he has some doubts. He said that there's always an Argentine in a final, or SF and that's not economically good for the ATP. A live broadcast for a final in RG with an Argentine in Argentina costs 300.000 dollars, while broadcasting a RG SF with an American costs at least 2.000.000 dollars. He's a top ten, but he doesn't sell, so putting a harsh punishment on him, is making Ink seem like a hero and taking glory like he's doing a good job, while he's not.
*The jury that had his case is paid by the ATP and the Swiss one is independent and that puts him at ease.
*This suspension won't end his career, and he hasn't yet assumed this suspension, cause he knows it's a mistake.
*He'll start training again tomorrow cause he's sure the appeal will go his way and he'll start playing again really soon.
*Nalbandian, Coria, Puerta, Gaudio, Calleri, Etlis, all Argentinas plus Massu, Gonzalez, Moyá and Nadal have been supporting him and sending him messages telling Willy they're behind him 100%

I know I'm forgetting more things, but I'll put them as soon as I remember them.

Denaon

08-10-2005, 06:11 PM

If I was supporting Willy before this interview, now I'm doing it even more. To sum up, this is what he said:
*The whole trial was around one witness they had and it was the Mexican doctor Chinchilla. Willy asked him to be in the US, and he said he was gonna go there. Then the ATP calls him, and tells him he needs a Visa and can do it by phone. Hernán Gumy had the same problem, but could have his Visa in one day because he had to go to the trial as a witness, however Chinchilla didn't do the same, cause as he said "The ATP didn't tell me it was necessary for me to be there, if I knew it was important I would have been there"
*Then, Willy says he had a sore throat and went to see Chinchilla (the Acapulco doctor) and he gave him a reciepe with the medication, the girls from the Acapulco organization bought him the medicine and he took it. The problem starts when he doesn't check the medicine, and apparently it wasn't the exact same thing the doctor ordered, but something similar.
*The doctor says he never saw Willy nor gave him any medications, and that it's impossible for him to buy some sore throat medications in the Chemist's because he has all those kind of medications in the tournament. However there's another Argentine player which Willy didn't want to name (but it's in the ATP case and it's Juan Monaco) who had the same sore throat, and he did gave him a receipe with the same medication as Willy, so the medications weren't in the tournament. First lie.
*Then, they realized they didn't put Juan in the reports as a player who was attended by a doctor, they forgot, just like they did with Willy. The reports have numbers and are all green. Those reports are signed by the doctors, then there are other reports which are red and signed by the trainers. Chinchilla sent faulse proove, saying that Monaco was in those reports, and he sent a red report singned by him. That shouldn't have been accepted, because it's obviously faulse. However the ATP accepted. So Willy wonders why they remember attending Juan, but not him...
*Then he says that Richard Ink has been asking the witnesses to be there at the trial by himself, while that's a lawyer's job. And once the sentence was made, they usually give the player 24 hours to tell the family how the thing is and prepare a press conference. They gave him the news at 3.11pm, and by 3.30pm there was a press release by the ATP, so his mother found out about this on the news.
*He doesn't understand why the doping news was in the press, who gave it away when he never said anything about it. Why all the rumors started?
*Why 2 years? Oliver had the same diuretic found in his body and he recieved a 3 months suspension. He recieves a worse penalty than a person who took something to take advantage. They found diuretic in his body and nothing else, no other things.
*He knows that there's nothing against Argentines, but he has some doubts. He said that there's always an Argentine in a final, or SF and that's not economically good for the ATP. A live broadcast for a final in RG with an Argentine in Argentina costs 300.000 dollars, while broadcasting a RG SF with an American costs at least 2.000.000 dollars. He's a top ten, but he doesn't sell, so putting a harsh punishment on him, is making Ink seem like a hero and taking glory like he's doing a good job, while he's not.
*The jury that had his case is paid by the ATP and the Swiss one is independent and that puts him at ease.
*This suspension won't end his career, and he hasn't yet assumed this suspension, cause he knows it's a mistake.
*He'll start training again tomorrow cause he's sure the appeal will go his way and he'll start playing again really soon.
*Nalbandian, Coria, Puerta, Gaudio, Calleri, Etlis, all Argentinas plus Massu, Gonzalez, Moyá and Nadal have been supporting him and sending him messages telling Willy they're behind him 100%

I know I'm forgetting more things, but I'll put them as soon as I remember them.
:worship: Jazz I'm your slave from now on, I love you for this report :worship:
I think there are a lot of suspicious issues about this.....Willy I'm behind you 100%!!!!

jazz_girl

08-10-2005, 06:24 PM

Did you see his interview in Sports Center? I'm pretty sure they'll repeat it cause it was great.

Denaon

08-10-2005, 06:28 PM

No Jime, I'm at work right now and I was desperately waiting for your report of that interview, hopefully later at night I can watch it :D Thanks again!

jazz_girl

08-10-2005, 06:32 PM

One more thing. He admits negligence on his side by not checking the medication he took, and he recognize that the diuretic was in his system, and if he has to pay for that, he'll accept it. But two years is not a fair penalty.
He also said that had taken doping tests 2 weeks before and after the ATP tournament, and they were all negatives, as all the ones he took in his career.
Whe he was getting far in the RG this year, he asked the ATP to do tests on him to prove what he can do being clean, like he always is. However the ATP did want to do it. But since he reached the QG, the French Government has the obligation to do the test, and he was tested negative.

Aguante_el_Gato

08-10-2005, 06:36 PM

If I was supporting Willy before this interview, now I'm doing it even more. .....
me too and thanks for the report :wavey:

Another thing he explained:
In any other major sport the WADA is in charge of the doping tests. What they do is take the test, and if it's positive they make public who the athlete is, which was the substance found, and which was the situation. If the doctors didn't check the medication, if it was intentional, etc. In tennis, the doping tests go directly to Richard Ings and he decides to make it public or not. That's why there are so many suspitions on other players not testing positive. The ATP says that this system is perfect, when they're constantly changing it after sanctioning players. Like they did with Coria, when they addmited that it wasn't his fault. So from then on, they adviced the players not to take the suplements.
Then, he also said that the jury which took his trial is paid by the ATP, and the ATP accepts it, but they say that has nothing to do, and it's an individual jury.

Choupi

08-10-2005, 08:41 PM

Jime, thanks a mil... :worship: I've been behind Willy from the very beginning, refusing to believe he did such a thing intentionally, not him. But I've never been as convinced 100% of his being clean as I am now, thanks to you and your update! :p

jazz_girl

08-10-2005, 08:43 PM

Another one he said, if he was hiding any drug, his urine test should have had an abnormal density, however all the test he took during that period of time were normal. So it can't he proven that he was covering drugs, since his urine density was normal.

Sommarsverige

08-10-2005, 08:55 PM

Jazz, thank you so much for this update :hug: :hug: :hug:

Also I have been very sure about Willys innocence from the beginning, but now after having read your details I am even more sure, and hope we all will see him back where he belongs very soon - on the tennis court!

jazz_girl

08-10-2005, 09:02 PM

Another thing I forgot!
The ATP didn't want to give Willy's defence the prooves before the trial. They just gave them 6 telephone numbers of the 6 girls who worked in the organization and the ones that bought his medication and had the prescription in their hands. He wanted them as witnesses. But very strangely, 4 out of those numbers had been cancelled, so he could just speak to 2 of the girls. One of the remembered the prescription and buying his medication. Then, when she found out the guy was a lawyer and was gonna contact her again for the trial, her cell phone was cancelled and her home phone was disconnected. The other girl's number worked, but she hadn't worked in the organization that year. But she gave him the phone number of other girls who worked in the tournament. However he couldn't check those numbers for the trial because the ATP gave him this info a bit over a week before the trial.

Am I the only one who finds this whole thing fishy???

sigmagirl91

08-10-2005, 09:28 PM

Another thing I forgot!
The ATP didn't want to give Willy's defence the prooves before the trial. They just gave them 6 telephone numbers of the 6 girls who worked in the organization and the ones that bought his medication and had the prescription in their hands. He wanted them as witnesses. But very strangely, 4 out of those numbers had been cancelled, so he could just speak to 2 of the girls. One of the remembered the prescription and buying his medication. Then, when she found out the guy was a lawyer and was gonna contact her again for the trial, her cell phone was cancelled and her home phone was disconnected. The other girl's number worked, but she hadn't worked in the organization that year. But she gave him the phone number of other girls who worked in the tournament. However he couldn't check those numbers for the trial because the ATP gave him this info a bit over a week before the trial.

Am I the only one who finds this whole thing fishy???

That sounds so odd!!

Polgara

08-10-2005, 10:16 PM

I absolutely agree with you - the whole thing stinks.

Thanks a lot for posting all this info - you´re great :hug: :hug:

All the best to Willy - hope he has the strenght he needs now and better judges in Switzerland

Action Jackson

08-11-2005, 05:51 AM

Another thing I forgot!
The ATP didn't want to give Willy's defence the prooves before the trial. They just gave them 6 telephone numbers of the 6 girls who worked in the organization and the ones that bought his medication and had the prescription in their hands. He wanted them as witnesses. But very strangely, 4 out of those numbers had been cancelled, so he could just speak to 2 of the girls. One of the remembered the prescription and buying his medication. Then, when she found out the guy was a lawyer and was gonna contact her again for the trial, her cell phone was cancelled and her home phone was disconnected. The other girl's number worked, but she hadn't worked in the organization that year. But she gave him the phone number of other girls who worked in the tournament. However he couldn't check those numbers for the trial because the ATP gave him this info a bit over a week before the trial.

Am I the only one who finds this whole thing fishy???

Now you can actually see where I have been coming from all this time and thanks for all the information it has been an interesting read.

Choupi

08-11-2005, 07:14 AM

Am I the only one who finds this whole thing fishy???
Oh no Jime, you're not alone! :(

NicoFan

08-11-2005, 01:40 PM

jazz_girl - thanks for all the hard work in posting this information.

It does sound fishy.

I don't trust the ATP at all so its not a surprise, but its so frustrating seeing the career destroyed for someone like Willy.

One, he needs a good lawyer - better than the one he had before.

NicoFan

08-11-2005, 03:03 PM

Saw this in latercera.cl - Willy has asked Vilas to help him.

(Its a translation so sorry about some of the things).

In the middle of its anguish by the sanction of two years that applied the ATP by a case of doping, the Argentine Guillermo Canes prepares the appeal, and assured that wants to have to its side al former star of the tennis Guillermo Vilas.

"Did not I call to Guillermo first because did not want to bother him. Not by another thing. I called him Tuesday, I left him a message. I was going to call him again, but up to now I did not be able because I am to thousand. It believed that was in Europe but I know that he is in the United States, so I am going to call him again",

On the function that can come he comply in the appeal the largest Argentine tennis player of every time, Canas assured: "I do not know in what he will be able me to help. But I want that Vilas be beside me. For me, Guillermo is an eminence in the tennis, is the most important person than has the Argentine tennis. And I want that he be behind mine. I repeat, if him did not I call before he was for bother it not, not by another reason".

Vilas helped Juan Ignacio Chela, Guillermo Coria and Mariano Puerta when they passed a similar situation. Even, the former number two of the world was fundamental in the process that the ATP substantiated against Juan Ignacio Chela in 2001, al point that only received a suspension of three months, after to have given positive.

In that opportunity, Vilas spoke directly with the responsible for the program antidopaje to leave in clear that Chela is a person "pure" that had been involved for a doctor that prescribed him complex vitamin prohibited.

*Ljubica*

08-11-2005, 05:20 PM

Jime, thanks a mil... :worship: I've been behind Willy from the very beginning, refusing to believe he did such a thing intentionally, not him. But I've never been as convinced 100% of his being clean as I am now, thanks to you and your update! :p

Totally agree with you Choupi - I feel the same. I am convinced WIlly is innocent - that's why I've made the bold statement in my signature - I'm still not ashamed to support Willy, and I don't want him to be forgotten.

jazz_girl

08-11-2005, 08:38 PM

I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one doubting about this whole thing ;)

Denaon

08-11-2005, 08:50 PM

You're absolutely not the only one Jazzy ;)

Aguante_el_Gato

08-12-2005, 01:14 PM

Totally agree with you Choupi - I feel the same. I am convinced WIlly is innocent - that's why I've made the bold statement in my signature - I'm still not ashamed to support Willy, and I don't want him to be forgotten.I feel the same. In addition, the fact to see Willy so surely, showing the face, offering arguments, giving names, it makes me believe, with greater security, that there is something very rotten at heart of all this.

+alonso

08-13-2005, 01:43 AM

Soorry to all guille fans and to guille :sad:
so sad.. he's a great player .. we want to see it for many many years!!! it's so unfair

victoria_maraude

08-13-2005, 03:55 AM

Yeah, it's really unfair. There are so many strange things about this case, I can't believe this is happenning to Willy. But I'm sure he can change the situation at the international jury and he'll be playing again really soon. He said in an interview that all the support he's getting -from the fans, from the other players and from the press- makes him stronger and now he really wants to fight to make things clear.
I'm so happy so many of you are posting here, I didn't even bothered on reading the GMs 'cause I know the kind of stupid posts I would find there.
FUERZA WILLY!!!

knight_ley

08-13-2005, 04:53 AM

:sad: :hug: to everyone here... :hug:

Chloe le Bopper

08-13-2005, 05:29 AM

I finally took the time to read all of this, and while I'm trying to be objective since the sources are somewhat subjective (Canas, Argentina press, his fans)... it all sounds pretty fucked. Hopefully the truth comes out at the next trial, whatever and whenever that is.

Chloe le Bopper

08-13-2005, 05:57 AM

Okay, I'm confused. Canas is quoted in one article that he knew about the investigation for a while but that the ATP wouldn't let him go public with comments on it. Then he says in his interview that his mother found out about this on TV? What am I missing, because that makes no sense.

Denaon

08-13-2005, 07:13 AM

Okay, I'm confused. Canas is quoted in one article that he knew about the investigation for a while but that the ATP wouldn't let him go public with comments on it. Then he says in his interview that his mother found out about this on TV? What am I missing, because that makes no sense.
If I'm not wrng his mother found out about the suspension on TV, and apparently he had some time before that turned public to tell his family and friends. Please correct me anyone if I'm wrong

jazz_girl

08-13-2005, 11:12 AM

No Denaon, you're right.

sigmagirl91

08-13-2005, 11:53 AM

This thing is getting even more confusing, and it seems as if Willy's getting the "shit" for it. The least some of these so-called witnesses can do is come clean. Changing phone numbers and mysteriously relocating is totally strange-especially if they supposedly have nothing to hide. What's up with that?

DanEd

08-13-2005, 04:21 PM

as long as i am a cañas fan and i think two years is too much long for a sanction i am not sure if he is innocent. his story is not very beliable.

yes of course the conspiracy theory :rolleyes:

if he is guilty then he should be punished ,it is pretty fair. i am tired of these players giving bad reputation to my country (not just in tennis)

victoria_maraude

08-13-2005, 10:25 PM

Even if he is guilty the suspension shouldn't have been that long. There was a similar case with another player (they found a diuretic in his test) and the ATP just gave him three months of suspension.... so why two years for Willy? I really don't get it.

DanEd

08-14-2005, 02:20 AM

well cañas was about to test positive with other players in 2003 i think
he was warned at taht moment. that has very much influence

besides his story could not be proven, so he had no arguments for that positive according to the judges

Even if he is guilty the suspension shouldn't have been that long. There was a similar case with another player (they found a diuretic in his test) and the ATP just gave him three months of suspension.... so why two years for Willy? I really don't get it.

DanEd

08-14-2005, 02:23 AM

so if cañas´ appeal could not be proven then that sanction is ok for me

fabolous

08-14-2005, 08:49 PM

damn i already miss him on the tour :sad: two years without him...... :hug: to all his fans.

jazz_girl

08-15-2005, 01:53 PM

This is part of an interview in La Nación:
-Look what the sentence says: If you discover a substance with which you don't want to take a sport advantage, the sanction will be one year max. In the trial they believe the doctor, but not me. They believe the doctor (Salvador Chinchilla) because they say he's tidy. In the same sentence they say the doctor forgets to write down something in the reports; but he remembers. Then they say he's very tidy and don't believe what I say. They suppouse I took something that they can't find and that I did it to take an advantage. That's not a fair and concrete proof; it's a suposition (sp?) of things. In the antidoping moment, they found Voltarén 75 and cafeine. You can also see that the diuretic doesn't make any efect by the urine density there's in the analysis. Besides, with the Voltarén 75 the diuretic doesn't work. That medication has a slow elimination mechanism so the stomach doesn't feel it. If the diuretic was effective then I would have become dehydrated and would have fainted in Acapulco. And all this is medically proved. So why do they sentence me just because they suppouse something? I don't take sports advantages...

chewy

08-20-2005, 03:47 AM

i support canas till the end...i believe he is telling the truth, i just dont think he would jeopardize his career at such a high stage and risk so much by taking illegal substance intentionally.

too many unknown to judge this situation...just pray that willy stays strong and believe a brighter day awaits!

sigmagirl91

08-20-2005, 11:07 AM

I know, chewy. It seems if everyone is eager to throw the book at Willy without knowing all the facts. I have a feeling that something else is going on.

*Ljubica*

08-25-2005, 05:45 AM

Willy's appeal will be heard on Monday according to this article:- http://www.lanacion.com.ar/deportiva/Nota.asp?nota_id=732899

I'm keeping everything crossed for him.

sigmagirl91

08-25-2005, 08:07 AM

Willy's appeal will be heard on Monday according to this article:- http://www.lanacion.com.ar/deportiva/Nota.asp?nota_id=732899

I'm keeping everything crossed for him.

Best of luck, Willy.

Action Jackson

08-25-2005, 08:12 AM

It'll be interesting to see what is going on with the appeal and hopefully he gets better lawyers, there are many things going on and all these need to be highlighted.

Next Monday? :unsure: I hope everything works out well and he gets, at least, reduced the punishment.

chewy

08-25-2005, 03:19 PM

Next Monday? :unsure: I hope everything works out well and he gets, at least, reduced the punishment.

i wish all the best for canas, and if they won't clear his name, hopefully his punishment will be reduced. 2years is horrible, i can't imagin how a pro tennis player can make a living whn he can't do wat he does best, i mean hes played tennis all his live and than suddenlly u hav to pick up another job??i dont know how it works, or do atp expect him to live on savings for d nxt 2yrs?...n mentally that will destroy anyones spirit in gettin back into this sport.

Sommarsverige

08-26-2005, 07:29 AM

All the best for you, Willy :hug:

I so much hope that we can see him back on the tennis court very soon!

knight_ley

08-28-2005, 01:52 PM

Good luck to Willy tomorrow :hug:

Let's pray he can get this sorted out... :hug:

*Ljubica*

08-28-2005, 08:44 PM

Yes - I hope so too. In fact I'll thinking more about Willy tomorrow than the start of the US Open! I just hope he can get back on court really soon and put all this behind him.

Sommarsverige

08-29-2005, 08:48 AM

Does anyone know when the decision will be made?

Good luck Willy :hug:

*Ljubica*

08-29-2005, 11:18 AM

Does anyone know when the decision will be made?

Good luck Willy :hug:

Sorry - I don't know. But I read this really sad thing in the Argentine Press this morning. Seems Willy has gone to New York to support his girlfriend who is playing there (Maria Emilia Salerni), but they won't even give him accreditation or allow him into Flushing Meadows so that he can be with her in the Players' Lounge etc and support her. That is so mean and bureaucratic and unnecessary - made me so sad and angry. Please God he can clear his name quickly and get back on a tennis court again where he belongs.

Sommarsverige

08-29-2005, 11:55 AM

Sorry - I don't know. But I read this really sad thing in the Argentine Press this morning. Seems Willy has gone to New York to support his girlfriend who is playing there (Maria Emilia Salerni), but they won't even give him accreditation or allow him into Flushing Meadows so that he can be with her in the Players' Lounge etc and support her. That is so mean and bureaucratic and unnecessary - made me so sad and angry. Please God he can clear his name quickly and get back on a tennis court again where he belongs.

I can´t believe what you have written there, Rosie.
This is just so unfair and I can´t believe it :sad:

How can people judge Willy for something who don´t anything about all this?
This is so sad and also makes me very angry.

*Ljubica*

08-29-2005, 12:18 PM

I can´t believe what you have written there, Rosie.
This is just so unfair and I can´t believe it :sad:

How can people judge Willy for something who don´t anything about all this?
This is so sad and also makes me very angry.

Don't know how good your Spanish is Sommar - but here is a link to the story I read this morning in Clarins, and the photo that accompanied it. It was also in "La Nacion" this morning.
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2005/08/29/deportes/d-02901.htm

The only positive thing in it is to read how supportive the other guys are being - they especially mention David, Gaston and Guillermo (Coria) - I have also seen supportive articles written by Agustin Calleri.

Corina2605

08-29-2005, 12:30 PM

Thanks Ros for the link. I can't believe they didn't let him in the tennis venue and he had to follow his gf's match per internet in the hotel. That's unbelievable and humiliating :(

I so hope things go well for Willy today in Lausanne +++++++++++

*Ljubica*

08-29-2005, 12:34 PM

Thanks Ros for the link. I can't believe they didn't let him in the tennis venue and he had to follow his gf's match per internet in the hotel. That's unbelievable and humiliating :(

I so hope things go well for Willy today in Lausanne +++++++++++

Hi Corina :wavey: - and no - I can hardly believe it, and the more I think about it the more it makes me mad :devil: Maybe you may hear some news first being in Switzerland -please post it here and I'll keep my fingers crossed that it is good.

Vamos Willy!!! now it is time to kick some as**s in the courts (in the legal ones so far).
And I hope that in short time, you can return and do it in the tennis ones :bounce:
I wish you the best luck!!

Sommarsverige

08-29-2005, 07:27 PM

Aren´t there any news yet?

sigmagirl91

08-29-2005, 10:33 PM

This is really a shame. Does he need more humiliation on top of what he's experiencing now? That was just plain crazy.

chewy

08-30-2005, 12:11 AM

these information are from Willy's fan site i visit regularly, i can't confirm the info, but this site is very reliable and i've been to for many years.

He´s going to present his case in Lausanne on Monday 29th of August. Here´s a link to an article in La Nacion. It´s in Spanish but I don´t have time for a translation in the moment. But here are some facts:

- He has new lawyers:
Argentines from Llerena y Asociados.
- A decision will probably be made public
in the middle of December - so this year
is definitely lost for him.

information from this site:
http://www.canas-online.de/canas-online.htm

jazz_girl

09-02-2005, 11:03 AM

Some good news. According to La Nación, Willy's lawyers sent the appeal to the CAS and it was approved, so they'll start analyzing his case from zero. :yeah:

*Ljubica*

09-02-2005, 11:27 AM

Some good news. According to La Nación, Willy's lawyers sent the appeal to the CAS and it was approved, so they'll start analyzing his case from zero. :yeah:

Thanks Jazz :yeah: That's at least some good news.

Action Jackson

09-02-2005, 11:28 AM

Thanks for the news jazz, just hope he can be back playing in 2006.

jazz_girl

09-02-2005, 03:17 PM

Rosie, I read your pm. But I have a problem trying to answer it. Every time I try, my computer freezes :mad: So, once it's fixed I'll reply ;)

*Ljubica*

09-02-2005, 04:34 PM

Rosie, I read your pm. But I have a problem trying to answer it. Every time I try, my computer freezes :mad: So, once it's fixed I'll reply ;)

Don't worry Jazz - that is a general fault with MTF these days :sad: We were only discussing it on the "Misfits" thread the other night - I have it, so does Mandoura, and I think Sigma and Choupi get it too :devil: The only way I sometimes cure it is by sending a brand new PM instead of using "quotes", but that doesn't always work either. Still - don't worry :hug:

jazz_girl

09-02-2005, 08:21 PM

I talked to the admins and they told me that a solution could be to delete the temp files and restart the computer. But gladly, it worked on the 7th try and I could reply your pm! :lol:

sigmagirl91

09-03-2005, 03:58 AM

Rosie, I read your pm. But I have a problem trying to answer it. Every time I try, my computer freezes :mad: So, once it's fixed I'll reply ;)

I have this problem more times than I care to talk about. I'm like Rosie-is this a byproduct of the new "system"?

sigmagirl91

09-03-2005, 03:59 AM

I talked to the admins and they told me that a solution could be to delete the temp files and restart the computer. But gladly, it worked on the 7th try and I could reply your pm! :lol:

I'm not going through that-especially when my temp files aren't that big, and my history is deleted every day. Whatever!

*Ljubica*

09-03-2005, 09:23 AM

I have this problem more times than I care to talk about. I'm like Rosie-is this a byproduct of the new "system"?

I'm sure it is, though they'll probably never admit it :devil: I "clean" my computer every day and never store old messages or anything (I have to be very careful with stuff like that because I use it to work from home), and I still get loads of problems now that I never had before all the changes happened :rolleyes:

sigmagirl91

09-03-2005, 12:40 PM

I'm sure it is, though they'll probably never admit it :devil: I "clean" my computer every day and never store old messages or anything (I have to be very careful with stuff like that because I use it to work from home), and I still get loads of problems now that I never had before all the changes happened :rolleyes:

I think, in the attempt to be user-friendly, MTF has run into some glitches. It's gonna take time to clear out all the bugs. I am still not sure about the premium membership thing. It's almost as if they're trying to make all members go that way. In my opinion, the ones who have been loyal posters to the site should be afforded this service free of charge, although the admins may not go for the idea.

*Ljubica*

09-04-2005, 01:13 PM

I think, in the attempt to be user-friendly, MTF has run into some glitches. It's gonna take time to clear out all the bugs. I am still not sure about the premium membership thing. It's almost as if they're trying to make all members go that way. In my opinion, the ones who have been loyal posters to the site should be afforded this service free of charge, although the admins may not go for the idea.

Good idea :) I actually got the "this server is busy - but if you want to buy premium membership....." message last night for the first time ..... :devil:

Btw - this is a link to a clip where a lot of the other Argentine players - Calleri,Puerta etc - pledge their support to Willy :)

Good to know and he does have some support, as I said I just hope that he can get cleared at the end of the year.

sigmagirl91

09-04-2005, 01:31 PM

Good idea :) I actually got the "this server is busy - but if you want to buy premium membership....." message last night for the first time ..... :devil:

I get that and the "server is busy for the moment. Please come back soon" message.

*Ljubica*

09-04-2005, 02:03 PM

I get that and the "server is busy for the moment. Please come back soon" message.

Yes - I get that one quite often - but last night was the first time that I had the other one that everyone is talking about, - where they tell you if you take out premium membership you won't have server problems :devil:

sigmagirl91

09-04-2005, 06:11 PM

Yes - I get that one quite often - but last night was the first time that I had the other one that everyone is talking about, - where they tell you if you take out premium membership you won't have server problems :devil:

Saw that one too. I don't want premium membership now.

Daniel

09-07-2005, 04:15 AM

I also get that message

*Ljubica*

09-15-2005, 06:42 PM

I thought it was a really nice gesture that Alberto Mancini (the Argentine DC Captain) wants Willy to accompany the Team to Bratislava next week - to help in practice sessions and act as a supporter and "sparring" partner. However, he has to be careful of the "rules" in these situations because of the ban, so at present he is seeking guidance from the ITF and Davis Cup committees before anything is definate. I'll try and keep you posted.

Action Jackson

09-15-2005, 06:44 PM

That would be good if that could happen and this is a tie where they could have used Willy for sure, I wonder if they will refuse his accreditation and 3 cheers for Mancini.

Sommarsverige

09-15-2005, 06:47 PM

Thanks for the news, Rosie :hug:

This is very nice to hear after all the last sad news....I really hope it will be accepted by the official places, so Willy can be with the team in Bratislava :)
He would so much deserve it and I am sure he would do everything to support the players :yeah:

*Ljubica*

09-16-2005, 11:51 AM

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/deportiva/Nota.asp?nota_id=739167

Cañas - a Difficult Case.

Arturo Grimaldi, vice-president of the Argentine Tennis Association, has confirmed with Enrique Morea, the head of that organisation, that they have been in communication with Juan Margets, vice-president of the International Federation, to see if they will allow Guillermo Cañas to accompany the Team in Bratislava. Alberto Mancini has admitted that it will not be easy.

The link above is to the main tennis news page in "La Nacion" - this story is about half way down the page if you want to see the original.

*Ljubica*

09-16-2005, 05:46 PM

http://www.infobae.com/notas/nota.php?Idx=210999&IdxSeccion=100439

Coria defends Cañas

"They are treating him like a a criminal" The tennis player defended his companion who is suspended for a positive doping test, and wants him to accompany the DC Team.

"They're treating him like a criminal", said Guillermo Coria with reference to the treatment that his compatriot Guillermo Cañas is receiving. He was suspended for two years for a positive doping test, and now he is not even allowed to enter the official enclosures where matches are being played.

Coria, who as of next Friday will play for the Argentine team in the semifinals of the Davis Cup against Slovakia, confirmed that he would be delighted if Cañas could go to Bratislava with them. "He is an important person for the team and it is madness to be waiting and hoping to see if he can enter come or not. They are treating him like a criminal and it would be necessary to change the rules - anyway ATP matches are not the same as the Davis ", he said. There has been a delay while the ITF (International Tennis Federation) makes a decision on this subject after the Argentine captain, Alberto Mancini, announced the Team's intention to let Cañas travel with them to Europe.

*Ljubica*

09-18-2005, 11:22 AM

There is a really nice and positive interview with Willy in Clarins today - here is the link http://www.clarin.com/diario/2005/09/18/deportes/d-08401.htm
I have tried to translate it as best I can but it is not verbatim - I am generally OK with translating normal prose, but I do have problems sometimes with conversations and "slang" expressions. However, I do hope it gives a "feel" of the interview to those of you who cannot understand Spanish at all.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

TENNIS Cañas:

"I am preparing to return" He says he has "many hopes" that the appeal will result in a reduction of the 2 year sanction against him for doping. He has begun to train normally and thinks about his return, saying "It will be soon".

It was a different morning for Guillermo Cañas. With one smile after another he was helping those who plays wheelchair tennis. Wearing a blue tracksuit with a white stripe across the chest, black trainers and with 2 days' growth of beard, Willy was happy with a racquet in his hand. Before playing with the boys in a field in Puerta Madera, the player, who has been suspended for two years for a positive doping test, spoke with Clarins about the impossibility of travelling to Bratislava to see the Davis Cup semi final because of the rules. "I wanted to be there, but those are the rules. I think they are unjust, but I am going to abide by them even though I would have loved to travel. Now I hope that Argentina will be successful in the end ". Soon we started to chat..............

- How are you today?
- I am...

- Do you have more hopes?
- Yes, many. I am happy with what the lawyers are doing. We are making new tests, we are far better and that gives me many hopes. (He smiles and talks) to Ezequiel Casca, who seems fascinated by him, and his doubles partner Ofelia Bonifacio, who are both in wheelchairs. Guillermo, says later that it is a "pleasure for me to offer a little help here" I am enjoying it like they are".

His appeal is to the Tribune of Sports in Switzerland, where displays and representations can be made up until the 10th October."I am hoping that the truth will be seen. All I have left now is hope " he says. Then the conversation turns to a subject to likes more - to tennis.

- How do you see the Davis Cup series in Slovakia?
- It will be difficult being visitors. The good thing is that David (Nalbandian) and Guillermo (Coria) come playing well, - they both had a great US Open. Although none of us know about the surface when it is played away, and it can vary much. But I have much confidence and the five matches are winnable. Although those five matches are all going to be hard and it is also possible to lose them byt there will be chances for Argentina.

- Before it was said that "if we won in Australia we had a great chance to be champions". Now is it the same?
- It is necessary to take it match by match. Later it will be necessary to analyse things. The Australia tie was difficult because we played on grass and as the visitors. But I believe that Slovakia has good players and that Hrbaty always plays very well in the Davis Cup. Also we know that Beck plays well in Davis Cup too. And if we have the luck to win this tie we must not forget Russia. Because even though Safin is not well physically, they have Davydenko who has had an excellent year, and Youzhny who has already won in a Davis Cup Final. And also we will be visitors. If it is not Russia, then we will have Croatia, who also have two great players.. I don't believe that it's impossible, but I'm not saying that just because we beat Australia we are going to leave as champions.

- How is your life from a tennis point of view?
- I am seeing some specific things. I am trying to make some things different, but it is not easy missing matches and your friends. I am speaking constantly with my lawyers, I began to train normally this week, and I am working out in the gym. My life has to have a normal routine and I must prepare myself for the moment that I return and be ready for that. This will be soon.

sigmagirl91

09-18-2005, 11:32 AM

He sounds extremely optimistic. And the fact that he's keeping to his normal routine is one positive.

Choupi

09-18-2005, 12:02 PM

Thanks for the article Rosie and for the translation. :) He really sounds optimistic and that's great to read about. If he's confident he'll be back soon, I am too. :)

Denaon

09-18-2005, 04:07 PM

:worship: Thx Rosie for this and the rest of articles you posted, keeping us updated :worship:

chewy

09-18-2005, 04:23 PM

Thankz Rosie for the translation of the interview. :)

Denaon

09-20-2005, 04:37 PM

Here's the link to an article about Guillermo's appareance in Maradona's TV show and his appeal.

http://www.infobae.com/notas/nota.php?Idx=211582&IdxSeccion=100443

On the edge of crying, Cañas believes his ban will be reduced

The Argentine tennis player said he's confident that the IOC will lower the two years suspension to him after testing positive and confessed that "they do not let me enter even if I buy my own ticket"

DyN) - On the edge of crying, Guillermo Cañas declared last night he trusted that the International Olympic Committee (IOC) will reduce the harsh two years suspension the ATP had given to him due to a positive doping test which, according to the Argentine, did not have as objective "to take sportive advantage".
Cañas assured that the competent authorities, who impelled his sanction, have "verified by studies that I did not have any intention to take sportive advantage".
"They know it but, lamentably, they don't want to take it into consideration ", said Cañas with his eyes congested and blushed like a prelude of a weeping that finally managed to avoid in front of the absolute silence of the public and of the prestigious panel of guests to the program " The night of 10" hosted by a more loose Diego Maradona.
Cañas said he has total confidence that the "IOC" is going to change the sanction to a much smaller one and added that it causes a special sadness to be prohibited to attend any official competition of tennis due to the extremely severe and rigid regulation which weighs on the accused of testing positive
"I was not even allowed to see my girlfriend (the professional tennis player Maria Emilia Salerni) when I wanted to cheer her in a match in the United States and I am not either authorized to do the same with the Argentine Davis Cup Team that is going to face Slovakia next weekend", said with a breaking voice due to the deep pain, impotence and resignation .
"I'm not allowed to enter even if I buy my ticket. That is something too hard and unfair ", insisted.
Maradona reminded him that an English tennis player was pardoned by an equal case, and Cañas said " to a North American they gave barely two months of suspension for taking the same diuretic I took".
Then came "the question" from all the panel, integrated by the golf player Eduardo "Gato" Romero, the local comedian Jorge Ginzburg, the venezuelan singer Ricardo Montaner and the local actress Florencia Peña: if this was an anti-argentinian campaign.
"It is very but very hard to think that something like this is happening, because Argentina is the #1 tennis power, although it may be difficult to believe, and it gave much to world-wide tennis and to the sport in general", he answered.
The greater ovation happened when he exclaimed: "I am going to continue fighting with all my forces to come out ahead of this situation and I know I am going to succeed".

Gosh, I need some english classes :rolls: I hope you can understand it :D

*Ljubica*

09-20-2005, 04:44 PM

Daniel :hug: - please don't apologise for your English - it is wonderful, - and thank you for taking the time and trouble to translate this for us.

Denaon

09-20-2005, 04:55 PM

Daniel :hug: - please don't apologise for your English - it is wonderful, - and thank you for taking the time and trouble to translate this for us.
No prob :D
The truth is that I had to use an online dictionary sometimes....that's what I complain about.....a few years ago I would have done this all alone...

Traslating is really difficult, I have to say.

About Guillermo's visit to Maradona's show, I could not watch it :fiery: coz I was traveling back to my appartment from my mom's :ras: Maybe Jazzy watched it...

*Ljubica*

09-20-2005, 06:08 PM

No prob :D
The truth is that I had to use an online dictionary sometimes....that's what I complain about.....a few years ago I would have done this all alone...

Traslating is really difficult, I have to say.

About Guillermo's visit to Maradona's show, I could not watch it :fiery: coz I was traveling back to my appartment from my mom's :ras: Maybe Jazzy watched it...

Wish I could do my translations without a dictionary :sad:

Truc

09-21-2005, 07:37 AM

Thank you very much for all informations and updates. :yeah:
Cañas said " to a North American they gave barely two months of suspension for taking the same diuretic I took".
Do you know whom he is referring to here?

Action Jackson

09-21-2005, 07:51 AM

Thank you very much for all informations and updates. :yeah:

Do you know whom he is referring to here?

Rusedski I think and how he managed to escape punishment.

Truc

09-21-2005, 08:10 AM

Thanks. But Rusedski didn't take a diuretic and wasn't even suspended for 2 months, was he?

Do you know other cases of tennis players who were suspended for taking a diuretic btw?

Action Jackson

09-21-2005, 08:18 AM

Thanks. But Rusedski didn't take a diuretic and wasn't even suspended for 2 months, was he?

Do you know other cases of tennis players who were suspended for taking a diuretic btw?

I can't say for sure it's just the North American/English link that made think it was Rusedski.

I think maybe a lower ranked player got done for taking a diuretic I have known it to happen in other sports, but not tennis.

Polgara

09-21-2005, 09:03 AM

It´s not Rusedski he´s talking about, he got no penalty at all. It was an American player called Graydon Oliver, he got just three months for exactly the same thing.

Truc

09-21-2005, 10:06 AM

Vielen Dank.
I googled a little bit, the cases are indeed similar, but in the Oliver Graydon case it looks like they could exactly tell the source of the diuretic ("A Tennis Anti-Doping Program tribunal determined that the source of the diuretic in Oliver's system was a mislabeled, over-the-counter herbal product." –
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/tennis/2004-02-07-oliver-suspension_x.htm)

Action Jackson

09-21-2005, 10:14 AM

Vielen Dank.
I googled a little bit, the cases are indeed similar, but in the Oliver Graydon case it looks like they could exactly tell the source of the diuretic ("A Tennis Anti-Doping Program tribunal determined that the source of the diuretic in Oliver's system was a mislabeled, over-the-counter herbal product." –
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/tennis/2004-02-07-oliver-suspension_x.htm)

That's the difference and lucky for Oliver it was this, though he was the one who got stung for it, though with Cañas there seems to be a question mark, just hope he can get a fair hearing.

Baseline

09-29-2005, 03:42 AM

"On Feb. 6, it was announced that U.S. doubles player Graydon Oliver had tested positive for the diuretic hydrocholorothiazide at last year's Miami event. Some diuretics are known to be used as masking agents for other banned substances. He claimed it came from a mislabeled over-the-counter sleeping pill, but Oliver was suspended for two months."

From next year the ITF is going to take over anti-doping testing at all ATP events, does that mean that ATP testing is all in shambles and have too many doubtful result to make it credible. For me the fiasco with the ATP anti doping procedures casts a huge shadow on the allegations against Willy. Hopefully Willy will be vindicated as a result of this new development. Keeping my fingers crossed. ( for those interested I posted the news release from ITF in GM)

sigmagirl91

10-05-2005, 02:07 AM

From next year the ITF is going to take over anti-doping testing at all ATP events, does that mean that ATP testing is all in shambles and have too many doubtful result to make it credible. For me the fiasco with the ATP anti doping procedures casts a huge shadow on the allegations against Willy. Hopefully Willy will be vindicated as a result of this new development. Keeping my fingers crossed. ( for those interested I posted the news release from ITF in GM)

That very well may be so. Having the ITF run it insures that players are being tested fairly and completely. I just wonder now if the tribunal will look at Willy's case a second time with that development in mind.

DhammaTiger

10-11-2005, 10:51 PM

Does anyone know when is Willy's case going to be heard by the arbitration board in Switzerland. The rumours about Mariano has diverted me from following Willy's case. Last I heard the hearing was supposed to be this month.

Polgara

10-12-2005, 09:17 AM

As far as I know the lawyers of Willy have finished their presentation and soon the ATP will be heard. The decision will probably be made in December - still a long time to go for Willy. But hopefully he will be back next year.

*Ljubica*

10-12-2005, 09:48 AM

As far as I know the lawyers of Willy have finished their presentation and soon the ATP will be heard. The decision will probably be made in December - still a long time to go for Willy. But hopefully he will be back next year.

Yes - all the lawyers presentations had to be in by Monday (October 10th) - now we just wait until the Appeal Court have completed their deliberations.

Sommarsverige

10-12-2005, 10:13 AM

I also hope that Willy will be back next year :yeah:

Thanks for the info, Helga ;)

DhammaTiger

10-12-2005, 10:41 AM

I too hope that Willy will be back in action early next year. What happened to him is injustice beyond belief.

After the appeal Guillermo Cañas' lawyers have presented in Lausane, Switzerland, to the TAS, the argentine's associates believe the situation can be reverted. Fernando Cao, Guillermo Cañas's physical trainer, talked about the subject with Olé. "We trust we can revert the case, because if it remains like this it would the biggest injustice" Also, Cao informed that " We presented the appeal (written) :confused:, and the tribunal takes 50 days to read the case. They do not present proofs, they analize the ones we present. In December they'll settle a date for the trial, which I presume will be at late January 2006." Meanwhile "we keep on training hard, 1:30 hrs of tennis 4 days a week", said Cao, waiting for the decision.

DhammaTiger

10-13-2005, 07:00 PM

Thanks for the latest news Denaon,I sincerely hope Willy is cleared as soon as possible. I really miss him on the tour. He signed my cap in stuttgart and I will always treasure it.

*Ljubica*

10-19-2005, 10:18 AM

Willy is on the list to be playing in the big exhibition tournament, Copa Argentina de Tenis, in December. I guess as it is not an ATP tournament there are no rules excluding him - and good that he has been remembered and included. Here is the full list of players:-

Rosie thanks for posting the news.I am so happy he will play in Copa Argentina. It's good to see him included. That should give his morale a boost and good preperation for next year when hopefully he will be back on the tour.

El Legenda

10-23-2005, 05:33 AM

Willy is on the list to be playing in the big exhibition tournament, Copa Argentina de Tenis, in December. I guess as it is not an ATP tournament there are no rules excluding him - and good that he has been remembered and included. Here is the full list of players:-

I happy, I will see cañas in lawn tennis in december!!!!!!!!!!!
kuerten too!!!!!!!!!

victoria_maraude

11-08-2005, 08:03 PM

I think it will be a good thing for Willy to play again at Lawn Tennis Club and feel all the support from the people. It would be great if he wins it. :)

*Ljubica*

11-10-2005, 05:11 PM

Most people on MTF know I am not a fan of Guillermo Coria, but I thought it was nice of him to remember Willy's problerms during his current trip to Shanghai. Here is a link to the article in Clarins, and a (bad) translation of the bit pertaining to WIlly:-

http://www.ole.clarin.com/jsp/v4/pagina.jsp?pagId=1087172

El Mago has his mind on the Masters' in Shanghai, but he remembers the bad moments that Cañas is living through.

"I don't forget that he could be with us", he said.. In addition, he dreams about winning the tournament "so that my joy is complete".

Guillermo Coria expressed his joy today because the Masters of Shanghai has four Argentine tennis players taking part, although he lamented about the absence of his compatriot Guillermo Cañas, who is currently sanctioned for doping. "I am very content for the reason that there are four Argentines here, but that does not make me forget that another one of our compatriots could be here with us. For that reason, I send a greeting to Willy (Cañas) and all my support to him at this moment ", said Coria in Shanghai. Cañas was banned for two years by the ATP after being tested positive in February 2005 in Acapulco, for a diuretic that supposedly masks a prohibited substance.

DhammaTiger

11-10-2005, 08:22 PM

Rosie, thank you for posting Coria's comments. Although,I am not his fan as well, but I appreciate very much his support for Willy and Mariano. For me, his stand on this issue has made me respect him far more than I did, and now I look at him in a new light.

Lucas Arg

11-15-2005, 08:51 AM

You are my all time favorite Guille!!! :wavey:

I will always support you!!!! :hug:

Corina2605

12-03-2005, 10:34 AM

Found a very nice interview with Guillermo on Rio Negro online.com, a website of an online newspaper in Patagonia. (http://www.rionegro.com.ar/arch200512/03/d03n01.php)

My Spanish is not good enough to translate it, sorry, but maybe someone else can :)

Willy plays today the Abierto de Patagonia. His first match for a long time. He plays first against Mariano Hood. Good luck :)

Thanks Corina - I will try and have a look at a translation later for you if I have the time, but I am quite busy today :sad: . In the meantime, here is a link to a short article in "Infobae" where Willy says he is confident of a positive outcome at the Court of Appeal. This article also shows a photo of Willy taking part in a marathon on behalf of a Childrens' Charity.

http://www.infobae.com/notas/nota.php?Idx=225696&IdxSeccion=100685

*Ljubica*

12-03-2005, 11:49 AM

Ok - here is a quick translation of Corina's interview:-

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The appeal in the doping case will be in January.

"For the ATP it is a problem to have so many Argentine", says Cañas, who today will make his debut in the Patagonia Open, playing Mariano Hood.

After the suspension for doping that he received at the beginning of August, Guillermo Cañas was not able to return to the tennis court to fight for ranking points. For that reason, without doubt, he will be one of the main
protagonists in the Patagonia Open, that started yesterday at the Rincón Club de Campo.

"It will be my first match for a long time and I have much desire. I am anxious to return to play. For me it is the most important thing and I am really going to enjoy thet moment ", Cañas told "Rio Negro" before leaving to travel to Nequén.

Because of the sanctions against him, the player from Tapiales can only participate in exhibitions or non ATP matches, and that is why he is so excited at this opportunity. "It is sad for me to be outside of the field, but I am here with much strength. Six weeks ago I began to play hard and train well, so that I can be the way I want to be and the way I was when I left the circuit. Of course I lack match practice and fitness which is difficult because this is the time of year when we all begin our pre-season training", explained Willy, speaking to us from a bar in Palermo.

- How are your spiritis?
Sometimes it's impossible to say that it doesn't bother you, but I have people wth me on those days who help to raise my spirits - my manager, my physical trainer, my friends, my family and my fiancèe. The truth is that it was very difficult in the beginning, but I have faith and belief in the outcome of my appeal, that will be held in January. I am anxious for the appeal to come. I believe that my lawyers are doing well and making things better. Many more tests and witnesses have been obtained. I have many hopes that they wll lower the sanction to very little. Let us hope that it is this way. People have supported me so much and now I am looking forward to the real truth being known.

- Have you had moments when you thought of giving up? -
No - I never thought it. I believe that is probably because I have already been through so much with many operations, and the thought of leaving tennis has never passed through my head. In fact it is totally the opposite, I have thought much about returning and to be able to clear my name of all the allegations and what has been happening. And I believe that that I am going to do it!

- Just at your best moment in the year, when you had won more matches, they suspended to you..
Yes, and it will be a little bit difficult to return to everything as it was. But I believe the healthiest thing for me to return in the best way I can, is to live from day to day. That is what I do, without thinking too much about the future. I try to enjoy what I have, although now it is without tennis. Wanting to return to competition gives me much desire to get out there and train everyday.

- It must be hard to maintain your hopes and this certainty, isn't it
- Yes, yes. The thing is you usually have to plan ahead and at the moment I don't have to do that, so I prefer to go from day to day. I want to be well when I return to play. That is what motivates me more to go to the gym and to run every day. After all, if I train to my fullest capacity the days go more quickly! Also, I spend my time by still following the matches that interest me - those of my frieds Zabaleta, Chela and Acasuso. Also I watch the other Argentines, but I don't follow the circuit like I did when I was inside.

- What do you think about the other Argentine doping case?
About Mariano (Puerta) I cannot say much because I don't have any idea about the case. He decided to do it his way and did not speak with me about his case, and I don't know if I could have helped him anyway. About the previous cases - despite what some people are saying I do not believe there is a case of persecution against the Argentines, but it does seem that we are an easy target for the economic reasons. It is logical and well known that our country is not economically the best for things like publicity and television rights - it is not the same when there is an Argentine in the finals every week as opposed to a German or an American for example. I do think the ATP has a problem with so many Argentines doing so well, but I don't think they have said "we are going to trap the Argentines".

sigmagirl91

12-03-2005, 11:52 AM

I hope you are cleared, Willy. Anyway, Rosie....have they announced an appeals date for Willy?

*Ljubica*

12-03-2005, 12:02 PM

I hope you are cleared, Willy. Anyway, Rosie....have they announced an appeals date for Willy?

All we know at the moment is that it will be in January - I'm sure Willy has been informed of the exact date by now, but sorry I don't know it.

sigmagirl91

12-03-2005, 12:35 PM

I guess we'll have to keep tabs on this development. I hope he gets a better outcome this time.

Corina2605

12-04-2005, 10:52 AM

Thanks Rosie for the translation :)

Willy seems to be in a very good form, as he made the final of the Abierto de la Patagonia. Hope all goes well for him in January.

*Ljubica*

12-04-2005, 11:30 AM

Thanks Rosie for the translation :)

Willy seems to be in a very good form, as he made the final of the Abierto de la Patagonia. Hope all goes well for him in January.

You're welcome :) And - yes - sounds like Willy played very well yesterday - a friend of mine is at the exhibition and he told me that Willy played "at an extremely high level". Today - he plays Juan Monaco in the Final - for those who are interested Willy's results were 6-1, 6-4 against Mariano Hood and 6-1, 7-5 over Mariano Zabaleta. Here is a link to an article (in Spanish) about yesterday's play.

http://rionegro.com.ar/arch200512/04/d04f10.php

*Ljubica*

12-05-2005, 10:15 AM

Willy kept up this high level to beat Juan Monaco in the final - he won 6-4, 6-0. Seems they had some really bad weather there (high winds) which started during the final, and they affected Juan's concentration badly in the second set whilst Willy kept himself together better. My signature shows that I'm a fan of Monaco and of course I am personally sad that he couldn't win this, but if anyone were to beat him I'm glad it was Willy because he has had such a rough time and he deserves some success :) I'm incredibly impressed that Willy has kept up his training and fitness enough to win 3 matches over 2 days and win an event (even though it was only an exhibition) - it shows amazing mental strangth I think.

reiko

12-06-2005, 12:57 AM

Hi, everyone! (I guess this is my very first post here.)

Just drop by to post this clip:
http://deportes.planetatv.com/presentation/default.asp?guid={8836A39D-6D7D-43A1-BD9B-5DA902BC79FE}

*Ljubica*

12-06-2005, 07:04 AM

To those who were asking earlier - Willy's hearing will be between 15th-20th January and the results will take aboot 3 weeks from that time to be announced. Hope that helps.

Action Jackson

12-06-2005, 07:10 AM

Thanks for the news of the hearing Rosie, just in time so he can't compete at the Aus Open.

basil333

12-06-2005, 08:58 AM

Thanks for the news of the hearing Rosie, just in time so he can't compete at the Aus Open.

I am pleased he won the exhibition - really pleased. I somehow thought he would win.... I would not be surprised if he won another this month too...

Even though he took out two favourites of mine on route, I am very pleased he won.

The timing thing is just typical - as they have to keep him down - but when he is "free" he will take his "revenge" next year in more trophies....

Action Jackson

12-06-2005, 09:02 AM

I am pleased he won the exhibition - really pleased. I somehow thought he would win.... I would not be surprised if he won another this month too...

Even though he took out two favourites of mine on route, I am very pleased he won.

The timing thing is just typical - as they have to keep him down - but when he is "free" he will take his "revenge" next year in more trophies....

Well it's good to see Canas is still playing and all he can do is train, play some exhos and make sure his defence is ready for the appeal.

DhammaTiger

12-11-2005, 02:25 PM

I am happy that Willy won the exhibition tournament in Patagonia. It's too bad that he has to wait so long to hear the outcome of the appeal. I agree with basil that it's typical that they delay the verdict to after the aus open so he won't e able to compete. but i am confident that along with mariano he will be exonerated in the end and will come out much stronger than he was before the sanctions.

*Ljubica*

12-16-2005, 10:55 AM

This weekend is the Copa Argentina de Tenis - a very prestigious exhibition tournament in Buenos Aires. Willy played last night and lost to Chucho Acasuso 3-6, 4-6. However I'm told Chucho played at a very high level and served excellently - so it's no disgrace to lose to him as he is a current Top 20 player. Here is a photo of Willy from last night's match.

sigmagirl91

12-16-2005, 10:56 AM

This weekend is the Copa Argentina de Tenis - a very prestigious exhibition tournament in Buenos Aires. Willy played last night and lost to Chucho Acasuso 3-6, 4-6. However I'm told Chucho played at a very high level and served excellently - so it's no disgrace to lose to him as he is a current Top 20 player. Here is a photo of Willy from last night's match.

That pic is :drool:

Denaon

12-16-2005, 12:31 PM

This weekend is the Copa Argentina de Tenis - a very prestigious exhibition tournament in Buenos Aires. Willy played last night and lost to Chucho Acasuso 3-6, 4-6. However I'm told Chucho played at a very high level and served excellently - so it's no disgrace to lose to him as he is a current Top 20 player. Here is a photo of Willy from last night's match.
From what I could watch (I had some guests last night so I had very little chance to watch any match at all :rolleyes: ) that is correct. Willy did not play bad but he seemed he had no timing...:shrug: maybe he's not fit enough to play a player like Chucho on that level.........
All I know Willy entered the court and there was an ovation and he almost burst into tears (imo), he was pretty emotional. And Maradona was there supporting Willy, it seems after Willy's ban they became good friends.

The good thing is Willy could play in front of his crowd which enjoyed of watching him play. :worship:

*Ljubica*

12-16-2005, 12:40 PM

Thanks Daniel. I have found a couple of artcles about last night and have trabslated the parts relating to Willy.

http://www.ole.clarin.com/jsp/v4/pagina.jsp?pagId=1108739

....... "He is very well physically and has much ambition and desire", confirmed his coach, Hernán Gumy.

Willy appeared contented, as if he felt deep inside himself that he could receive good news next. "I have trained hard because I wanted to be in the best way I can be for this tournamnent, and at the same level as all the other boys. Also I need to be at my very best, 10 out of 10, to return to the circuit ", he told Olé. "The worst year of my career is finishing. It started well from a tennis point of view, but this whole thing has killed me, and everything has been like shit. It is hard to have to wait for so long, I was never in this situation before.....not knowing what will happen and living in a constant uncertainty. I am very anxious, but I know that soon everything will be over".

"The match today (yesterday) was a good return to recharge my batteries ", he said after losing to Chucho 3-6, 4-6.

- How was it with the people at the Lawn Tennis Cub?
-Yes it was incredible. I am very thankful to all those people who have supported to me in these months. From my family to those people who do not know me but spoke to me in the street to wish me well.

- The appeal approaches. What expectations do you have?
- Many. I am very happy with the change in my lawyers. They are working very well. I hope that the case is cleared up so that I can return to play soon.

- Is it strange to be outside of the circuit?
- Of course. Tennis has been my life since I was small, - I love to go onto the court. Of course sometimes in the past it bothered me to travel so much and not to see my family, but now I realise that I do need my life on the circuit.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

http://www.clarin.com/diario/2005/12/16/deportes/d-08101.htm

COPA ARGENTINA ALLOWS THE FAMOUS STARS OF THE CIRCUIT TO MEET WITH THEIR FANS

The ídols and the public.

The opening day of the tournament in Buenos Aires culminated in the appearance of Cañas, who is still waiting for an end to his doping case. The enormous amount of young people who came to the famous Buenos Aires Lawn Tennis Club was an excellent part of the first day of the third Copa Argentina de Tenis. They were mainly aged between 10 and 16 years, and are those who week in and week out are stuck in front of their television sets in their rooms to watch their heroes fighting against the best players in the world, so they did not want to miss out on the opportunity of cheering them in person or simply to have an autograph from their ídols. This was especially so in the case of Cañas, who on this very special day returned to the court to receive that great affection that he has missed out on so much lately.

A giant tennis ball is an ideal souvenir to be signed, and an excited Valentin Fiorowi, aged 10 years, had one in his rucksack, and said he must have the autograph of Cañas or David Nalbandian. One of the main strongpoints that the organisation have obtained here is the possibility that the public can get close to the participants - whether it is those preparing to return to the circuit like Mariano Zabaleta or those just beginning their careers like Juan Martín del Potro who is only 17. For example, at te end of the match between Juan Mónaco and Zabaleta there was a draw and Monaco (who was happy to wear his Estudientes football shirt) hit some balls with the lucky winner.

Then the most awaited moment arrived - there was a flag bearing the message "Willy, always in the Top 10". Everything was much more casual that the usual atmosphere expected in the super-professional world of top-level tennis, but, as ever, it was spectacular. And of course it is not very often that you see the historical clay court covered by an asphalt surface! Another peculiarity of this court is that it is prepared only for singles, with a violet- blue colour on the internal parts and green by the outside which is surrounded by adverts and hordings of all kinds, as many companies take advantage of the Copa Argentina to advertise their products. And it is not just tennis-related advertisements, but those for Banks, hairdressing salons, womens' fashion and holidays - and also charities. It is a great spectacle to enjoy, with much colour inside and outside the court, and a great way to end the year.

DhammaTiger

12-18-2005, 05:44 PM

Rosie thanks fo appeared inr the great pictture of Willie,and the articles. I am happy to see that Willie is in good physical shape but so sorry he lost to Acasuso. I am sure the losss had something to do with being out of copetition for so long, but i am sure willie tried very hard. I cant wait until the results of his appeal comes through, and he gets aquited.

fightclubber

12-27-2005, 05:27 PM

One willy atb the buenos AIRES
HE PLAYED GOOD AND WAS ON SHAPE!
BAD HE WAS DEFEATED BUT WAS GREAT TO SEE HIM PLAYING
SILVY
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d172/silvyforforum/DSC08674a.jpg

DhammaTiger

12-27-2005, 07:27 PM

Thanks silvy for the news glad to hear willy is in good shape. Too bad he lost. Btw I have pictures of Willy from Stuttgart 2004 on the web in case you want to see it please PM me and I will send you the link.

*Ljubica*

12-28-2005, 11:26 AM

Thanks for the pic and the news Silvy :)

*Ljubica*

01-19-2006, 07:55 AM

Some news:-

http://www.clarin.com/diario/2006/01/19/deportes/d-05202.htm

The waiting for Cañas and Hood.

Uncertainty surrounds Guillermo Cañas and Mariano Hood at the present time, as the next few days are decisive for their futures in tennis. Cañas will today present/display his appeal before the Sports Arbitration Commission (ANVIL) in New York, but the result of whether they reduce his ban to see if he can return to the professional circuit before June 2007, will take approximately another 10 days. Hood, has travelled to London, and between Monday and Tuesday, the doubles’ player will make declarations in the case that was initiated by the ATP because of consumption of Finasteride, which was detected in him during the last Roland Garros. The sanction will be known by the end of the month, and he could then appeal to ANVIL.

Denaon

01-19-2006, 03:26 PM

Thanks so much Rosie for the update! I hope he gets a reduction to his ban!!! :bounce: That'd be so great to have Willy back!!!! :bounce:

Aguante_el_Gato

01-31-2006, 02:08 PM

Thanks for the article Rosie!! :hatoff:
The waiting for Cañas and Hood.
... Cañas will today present/display his appeal before the Sports Arbitration Commission (ANVIL) in New York, but the result of whether they reduce his ban to see if he can return to the professional circuit before June 2007, will take approximately another 10 days ... 12 days have passed from that. I hope that we have good news in these days :bounce:

DhammaTiger

02-01-2006, 03:58 PM

Hope they reduce his ban, can't wait for the decision. By the way, I thought the sports arbitration commission was in Geneva. Can someone clarify this point : what's the difference between the geneve court and the one in new york? :confused:

Aguante_el_Gato

02-24-2006, 01:36 PM

No news yet! :shrug:

At least I hope this silence could means good news ;)

16681

03-07-2006, 05:24 PM

All these bans of people and appeals that seem to take forever. If a player has really done something wrong, it shouldn't take this long for an appeal. Because it should be obvious if the player actually did something wrong. All of this makes me think that the system is extremely messed-up. And it is not fair for the players, their families, their country, nor their fans. I hope the decision will be one of good news :)

DhammaTiger

03-07-2006, 06:24 PM

Wonderful post Mae :hug: I couldn't agree more.

chicky841

03-14-2006, 02:04 AM

Totally agree Mae!

Aguante_el_Gato

03-16-2006, 12:00 PM

Yesterday I listened the journalists of ESPN for Latin America, saying that the result of Willy's appeal would be known in a maximum of 15/20 days.
So ... GOOOOOD LUUUUCCCCKKKK WILLY!!!!

Action Jackson

03-16-2006, 12:01 PM

Yesterday I listened the journalists of ESPN for Latin America, saying that the result of Willy's appeal would be known in a maximum of 15/20 days.
So ... GOOOOOD LUUUUCCCCKKKK WILLY!!!!

Thanks for the update on this.

DhammaTiger

03-21-2006, 08:43 PM

Aguante_el_Gato thanks for the update. I hope he has the ban reduced.

alexito

03-29-2006, 11:04 PM

video guillermo cañas in tenispro (post #1083)

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?p=3280116#post3280116

DhammaTiger

04-01-2006, 07:20 PM

Thanks Alexito :yeah:

Aguante_el_Gato

04-12-2006, 02:00 PM

Yesterday I listened the journalists of ESPN for Latin America, saying that the result of Willy's appeal would be known in a maximum of 15/20 days.
So ... GOOOOOD LUUUUCCCCKKKK WILLY!!!!:shrug: no news yet

Denaon

04-12-2006, 02:41 PM

I just cannot believe there are no news yet......:fiery: I don't understand what's going on...