Seriously, the best move I ever made was just training and eating for the first 4 or so years between 19 and 22. At 20, I was up to 296. ALthough there was fat to lose, when I did drop it, all that newly acquired muscle was there. I had an abdominal hernia these past couple of months so it is hard to say when my next show will be. I'm figuring early Spring of next year as I want to do it right.

Keep the posts coming as it is always interesting to see everyone's plans.

Also, maybe we can make a Q and A section if NP is ok with it for training and diet as a sub forum in the Np section......

Seriously, the best move I ever made was just training and eating for the first 4 or so years between 19 and 22. At 20, I was up to 296. ALthough there was fat to lose, when I did drop it, all that newly acquired muscle was there. I had an abdominal hernia these past couple of months so it is hard to say when my next show will be. I'm figuring early Spring of next year as I want to do it right.

Keep the posts coming as it is always interesting to see everyone's plans.

Also, maybe we can make a Q and A section if NP is ok with it for training and diet as a sub forum in the Np section......

You and me both...let me know where you are planning on competing...I think we're from the same general area...

At that time when I hit 296, I don't remember but I think I used the original 1-T ether gels and a 4 AD spray. Maybe boldione too? Not sure, but everything was legal. Genetically, I have always built muscle quite easily. Here is a pic of me at barely 18 winning the NJ States and using nothing but whey and glutamine

I started training at 14. When I say training, I mean real training and diet. I remember bringing my chicken and broccoli to physics class in high school, lol. I use CEE. I didn't list everything I use, just a general outline. Add Cissus-Drol to that list for the matter. I just love training. I am not putting a number on where I want to go this off season. Just as much muscle with as little fat as possible. Time to start battling it out with the other young guns, lol.

jeezee someone like you makes me wish i didnt do a sport in college and just hit gym fulltime that first 20lbs frosh year would of been 20lbs per year hehe and would of scored all the girls intead of half them /flex

Seriously, the best move I ever made was just training and eating for the first 4 or so years between 19 and 22. At 20, I was up to 296. ALthough there was fat to lose, when I did drop it, all that newly acquired muscle was there. I had an abdominal hernia these past couple of months so it is hard to say when my next show will be. I'm figuring early Spring of next year as I want to do it right.

Keep the posts coming as it is always interesting to see everyone's plans.

Also, maybe we can make a Q and A section if NP is ok with it for training and diet as a sub forum in the Np section......

I agree with this me too, i got up to 280lbs at 19yr and that was with all natural except for one, 8 week S1+ cycle which packed on the last 30lbs, ya i also had chub but doing that built a wicked base. I was eating 5500calories+ and training like a powerlifter Now i'm recomping and refining Currently at 237lbs