THIS!! If the owners of the business don't care, then why should the SD owners? If the dogs are not being passed off as SD, then what is the big deal?

I love that the TC area has a group dedicated to letting people know where dogs can go in stores in the cities. A lot of the places are like cell phone stores and the like, and that's awesome! Means I am way more likely to go into those businesses because I can bring a dog. Well, not that Frodo would go to non-pet store places, but Siri sure will be dragged along!

Well apparently, people drag little toy dogs around into places where they really aren't allowed, and the staff doesn't want to say anything (because the customer is always right), and the dogs aren't necessarily housebroken, etc. So that's kind of an issue. And the thing is, if you brought a bigger dog in, someone usually would stop you, so it's a bit unfair.

That said, it's easier to ask forgiveness than permission. When I was in Orlando with Tess, I went to a cafe that a friend suggested, which had a dog menu. And my dog was allowed on the patio. I very much doubt she was allowed in the cafe itself, but I took her in anyway to place our order, because she was really thirsty and I wanted to get her water fast. And the very nice person who served us didn't tell me my dog couldn't be in there, but I'm sure she wasn't supposed to be. I didn't try to claim her as a service dog or anything, I just took her in, ordered food and water, and allowed us to be shepherded back to sit on the patio.

As to the show, haven't watched it, but it sounds silly. And definitely like a poor representation of service dogs. Service dogs aren't supposed to be allowed to do anything disruptive of business. I think other customers might be disturbed at seeing a dog eating from a fork in the restaurant, so that would be disruptive.

Well apparently, people drag little toy dogs around into places where they really aren't allowed, and the staff doesn't want to say anything (because the customer is always right), and the dogs aren't necessarily housebroken, etc. So that's kind of an issue. And the thing is, if you brought a bigger dog in, someone usually would stop you, so it's a bit unfair.

That said, it's easier to ask forgiveness than permission. When I was in Orlando with Tess, I went to a cafe that a friend suggested, which had a dog menu. And my dog was allowed on the patio. I very much doubt she was allowed in the cafe itself, but I took her in anyway to place our order, because she was really thirsty and I wanted to get her water fast. And the very nice person who served us didn't tell me my dog couldn't be in there, but I'm sure she wasn't supposed to be. I didn't try to claim her as a service dog or anything, I just took her in, ordered food and water, and allowed us to be shepherded back to sit on the patio.

As to the show, haven't watched it, but it sounds silly. And definitely like a poor representation of service dogs. Service dogs aren't supposed to be allowed to do anything disruptive of business. I think other customers might be disturbed at seeing a dog eating from a fork in the restaurant, so that would be disruptive.

Sorry, I wasn't talking about people who bring dogs in where they aren't allowed. That is WRONG no matter the size of the dog. I'm talking about places where the owners don't care (HomeDepot, many Verizon stores, etc.) where the company is saying it's fine to bring your dogs in. And there are still SD people who think that is tarnishing the SD name and affecting the way people see SD.

They have issues getting around as it is, and tend to be easy to knock off balance.

What a blanket statement. There are all different kinds of dwarfism, each having their own disabilities. One kind, for example, though I don't know the name, the person has no issues with mobility at all -- they are exactly like a person not affected, except their body is smaller, yet proportionate.

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he also advocates the stealing of people's pit bulls if it is deemed warranted by him and his cronies and anyone doing the stealing. I.e. Dog on a chain? Should be stolen (aka "rescued") and given to someone who would really love it (never mind the dog was only out there for 30 minutes...)

he's a scamming piece of scum, and he's doing just as much damage to the dogs and their reputation as some no-good gang-banging thug.

Sorry, I wasn't talking about people who bring dogs in where they aren't allowed. That is WRONG no matter the size of the dog. I'm talking about places where the owners don't care (HomeDepot, many Verizon stores, etc.) where the company is saying it's fine to bring your dogs in. And there are still SD people who think that is tarnishing the SD name and affecting the way people see SD.

I think you must be reading a different thread. NOWHERE have I said that taking your pet dog into places of business that allow dogs is bad or effects SD handlers in any way. I think that is awesome, and a great way to socialize your dog, as long as the dog is well behaved and not aggressive in any way. Taking your pet dog into places of business and fraudulently claiming the dog is a SD is what effects those of us who use SDs.

What a blanket statement. There are all different kinds of dwarfism, each having their own disabilities. One kind, for example, though I don't know the name, the person has no issues with mobility at all -- they are exactly like a person not affected, except their body is smaller, yet proportionate.