If this is your first visit, be sure to
check out the FAQ by clicking the
link above. You may have to register
before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages,
select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Re: The Lord Of The Rings VS A Song of Ice and Fire

based off books, not tv/movie renditions , id go with a song of ice and fire, i was really captivated with the story line and the vast intricacies of the different characters,seeing how they were all personally driven by different subjective reasons, and how the book really removes the sense of right and wrong, and what is and isnt moral, and just shows you people stall striving for the same thing essentially, to win the game of thrones, and trying to survive the backlash of their own decisions along with supressing the opposing ambitions of others

and honestly westeros/the wall/the grass lands were more fun for me to imagine than middle earth :D

Originally Posted by Apollonius

acc to me a song of ice and fire is for mature audience and i peersonally prefer it over lord of rings

Re: The Lord Of The Rings VS A Song of Ice and Fire

nah..nothing like that.wheels of time is epic...story is that the at the beginning of time the creator made this world and put the dark one in an eternal prsion..he made a wheel which uses the pattern of life of people and each turn brings a new age..but humans by misake drilled hole in it and made the dark one partially free..and the world got in danger..recognizing the danger the pattern weaved a person who beacme the champion of light and who fights against the dark.he managed to put the seals in dark one priosn sealin him but after many years the seals begin to weaken again.netc etco travelling and stuff..check in the wikipedia...and trust me u will love the hero...he starts from being a simple gentle farmboy to a ruthless cold manipulative bastard..no plots save him...word of warning...it tends to drag sometime

Re: The Lord Of The Rings VS A Song of Ice and Fire

ah..nothing like that.wheels of time is epic...story is that the at the beginning of time the creator made this world and put the dark one in an eternal prsion..he made a wheel which uses the pattern of life of people and each turn brings a new age..but humans by misake drilled hole in it and made the dark one partially free..and the world got in danger..recognizing the danger the pattern weaved a person who beacme the champion of light and who fights against the dark.he managed to put the seals in dark one priosn sealin him but after many years the seals begin to weaken again.netc etco travelling and stuff..check in the wikipedia...and trust me u will love the hero...he starts from being a simple gentle farmboy to a ruthless cold manipulative bastard..no plots save him...word of warning...it tends to drag sometime

Hmm i dont even know what to say.

Seal broken.
the dark lord free to doom the world
the end of times.
the hero who will sabe the day, the champion the destined child.
Hmm....

hmm maybe in the future but for now i am not interesting in those stuff, i have seen stuff like that many times. thats why i dropped naruto. the hero bullshit got into my nerves.

Re: The Lord Of The Rings VS A Song of Ice and Fire

well not every one have read, song of ice and fire but since lord of the ring is a movie, most people watched it.

But song of ice and fire, the sense of no right and wrong makes it more brilliant and unpredictiable, also it was the best character development you can find in any serie.

Actually, at first glance LOTR may seem to have very basic good and evil themes but there is a lot of subtlety hidden within. Theoden and Denethor are very conscious that they are employing the same methods of violence that Sauron is using, and intentionally keep Merry and Pippin close by to remind them that while they are employing the same methods of the enemy, there are elements of innocence (the Shire, Hobbits) that would be destroyed unless they act. In the same sense that Elrond, Gandalf, Galadriel and Aragorn ask incorruptible Frodo to bear the burden of the ring, Theoden and Denethor keep the other Hobbits and their innocence close at hand to keep their own corruption at bay. I don't think that Jackson did a good job of conveying this in the movies, but it is definetly there in the books. Also, the Ents reluctance to become involved, and the Elves decision not to be too greatly involved parallels real life events at that time. Each race of Middle Earth weighs the consequence of a decision to be involved and decides their own levels of participation. You have to consider when the books were being written (WWII timeframe), Tolkien intentionally put in parallels with current events in his writing, as different nations had to decide their levels of involvement at that time.

Incestuous relationships (yawn, Le Mort D'Arthur) and egocentric "chosen one" themes have been done before. One could argue we are reading a "chosen one" story now with Naruto, but I think folks are in for a shock before we are done, and I hope Kishimoto is brave enough to risk pissing off some of his fanbase in this Sidhartha like tale.

Re: The Lord Of The Rings VS A Song of Ice and Fire

Originally Posted by Gyakusetsu

Actually, at first glance LOTR may seem to have very basic good and evil themes but there is a lot of subtlety hidden within. Theoden and Denethor are very conscious that they are employing the same methods of violence that Sauron is using, and intentionally keep Merry and Pippin close by to remind them that while they are employing the same methods of the enemy, there are elements of innocence (the Shire, Hobbits) that would be destroyed unless they act. In the same sense that Elrond, Gandalf, Galadriel and Aragorn ask incorruptible Frodo to bear the burden of the ring, Theoden and Denethor keep the other Hobbits and their innocence close at hand to keep their own corruption at bay. I don't think that Jackson did a good job of conveying this in the movies, but it is definetly there in the books. Also, the Ents reluctance to become involved, and the Elves decision not to be too greatly involved parallels real life events at that time. Each race of Middle Earth weighs the consequence of a decision to be involved and decides their own levels of participation. You have to consider when the books were being written (WWII timeframe), Tolkien intentionally put in parallels with current events in his writing, as different nations had to decide their levels of involvement at that time.

Incestuous relationships (yawn, Le Mort D'Arthur) and egocentric "chosen one" themes have been done before. One could argue we are reading a "chosen one" story now with Naruto, but I think folks are in for a shock before we are done, and I hope Kishimoto is brave enough to risk pissing off some of his fanbase in this Sidhartha like tale.

*Agreed*
And really if people think the LotR-universe is just about the good side wining over the bad side they never read The Silmarillion or The Lay of the Children of Húrin I guess.