Last year "3.0" was a "bunch of stuff". With whatever "key features" they wanted nailed before they moved to version 3.0. And looking at the schedule it was "networking stuff" - the long purple bars on teh schedule - that was deemed to be not up to what they wanted for 3.0.

They could have called 2.6 version 3.0; its just a version number after all. And 2.6 did deliver significant advancements and was well received. Looking at the schedule however network performance didn't clear whatever bar they had set for version 3.0. So they opted instead to call it 2.6.

Which is how it goes. As @rpmcmurphy&nbsp;says - the version of 3.0 they are planning to release in summer won't(?) include mining.

You have different teams doing different stuff and its about integrating them together. If 3.0 had released last year all the other stuff in the schedule that started in 2017 wouldn't have been included. Yet 3.0 would have been released!

The bottom line is you have to look at the whole. And remember that outside of key elements the scope isn't fixed for these interim version numbers.

rpmcmurphy said: strangely there's no mention of mining in either schedule.

btw this was clarified, mining is not there because it doesn't have a schedule yet so they don't know on what update it will be, so either that will be 3.0 or not is something we will known on the next schedule updates.

rpmcmurphy said: strangely there's no mention of mining in either schedule.

btw this was clarified, mining is not there because it doesn't have a schedule yet so they don't know on what update it will be, so either that will be 3.0 or not is something we will known on the next schedule updates.

No, but really, do you think they will make the target... June? I mean... June for 3.0? Do you trust they will make the cuttoff...? They missed their promise of December. Why would you believe June? What I love about this is that they will probably will make this arbitrary, extended date and people like you will say, triumphantly, "I told you so!"

Yeah, 6 months later and without the features they promised. The only thing that is certain is that they will extremely under-deliver.

I guess I hope they do deliver a proper 3.0. But what about 3.1? I would just recommend they lie and say tiny updates are full updates at this point. They already lie a lot, so why not?

It's honestly disturbing how little they have through 2017. . June is the day they will finally come through with a update that matters at all... and the game will still be subpar?!?! It's embarrassing how long it takes them to make simple advances.

I remember ~2 years ago when I was somewhat excited for this game. I was a huge EVE fanatic and was generally a space sim fan (maybe not a pure fanatic of space sim). But this has been an embarrassment. That they actually have a release date of June should be embarrassing, even for the fans. How much money did they collect based on the pretense that 3.0 was coming in December? And what kind of an asshole thinks that is ok?

>>>> No, but really, do you think they will make the target... June? <<<<

My answer to that is : it does not matter to me. I want the game when its ready. Whenever that is.

In a tested, almost bug free, polished, performance-optimized, complete and fun-to-play state.

Have fun

And that is why this is so interesting. People allow them to have zero accountability. I am honestly interested to see the outcome of this project. And I hope people continue to donate aggressively like they have been. 2018... 2019... 2025... whatever. As long as this keeps going on, I'll be intrigued by the followers.

If i want an untested, bug-ridden, unpolished, performance-castrated-console-compatible, incomplete-but-day-zero-DLC-available-for-money, no-fun-because-we-had-no-time-for-balancing state ..... then i can buy one of the typical Call of Battlefield Warfare Nummero 14 clones that are so prevalent these days.

That is why i am one of the backers that say: "I can wait. Its done when its done. "

If i want an untested, bug-ridden, unpolished, performance-castrated-console-compatible, incomplete-but-day-zero-DLC-available-for-money, no-fun-because-we-had-no-time-for-balancing state ..... then i can buy one of the typical Call of Battlefield Warfare Nummero 14 clones that are so prevalent these days.

That is why i am one of the backers that say: "I can wait. Its done when its done. "

Have fun

PS:>>> So, when IS it coming out? 2019? >>>

When it is ready.

Right... when it's ready. So their claims were complete bullshit and might be passed up by years. What an embarrassment. But not just that... what a terrible thing to happen to the people that donated and care about their development. Just wait, and someday we might say something that is honest!

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They never promised to release 3.0 in 12/2016...
You do understand how ridiculous it is that SQ42 was promised in 2016... in 2015. During 2016, they even had their 2016 release page asked for donations through November, which is, at least in my opinion, terrible. Even the minor update (relatively) was not released by 2016 (now the "expected date" is June 2017). If your point is that I am ignorant because they have failed to deliver 3.0 by December, and they never promised December, you got me buddy.

What was one of the first things they did in 2017 ? You guessed it .. A.I. :"For AI, 2017 started with a one-week summit in the Los Angeles studio: we went through several topics that will be important for the improvements we want to do during the new year."

"The team has also been developing the core foundation of our AI movement."

And speaking about performance improvements:"....Since the tech content team supports and implements every pipeline within Star Citizen and Squadron 42, one of their main focuses have been performance improvements. "

Have fun

Recent reports are not really useful for something that was meant to come out 4 months ago.

I don't see how either of those quotes indicate their reasoning for delaying 3.0

Maybe not in those exact words but it was stated that 3.0 would be coming before the 19th of December as end-of-year content and that they didn't want a repeat of 2015 where they were working to the last mnute to push the patch out.So it wasn't literally promised but the wording and context implied it was as good as promised.