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So can we now criticize BC for the Hibbert-O'Neal trade ?

Now that Roy Hibbert is about to be a legit double double starting C (not the 17/6 future dbl dbl guy we have) i think its time fans start crticizing this deal more...With all the failed moves BC has made this one seems to get put on the backburner,but i think its time to put out there for everyone to laugh at....

Since we still looking for a legit big man and never actually competed with any of the guys we got (Marion,JO) and the guy we dealt along with TJ to acquire fiya knees this needs more attention.....and at the end of this equation we didnt get to use fiya knees exp contract and turned marion into turkeydo and quietly Big Roy is about to become the legit rebounding in the paint center we needed all along...

Now that Roy Hibbert is about to be a legit double double starting C (not the 17/6 future dbl dbl guy we have) i think its time fans start crticizing this deal more...With all the failed moves BC has made this one seems to get put on the backburner,but i think its time to put out there for everyone to laugh at....

Since we still looking for a legit big man and never actually competed with any of the guys we got (Marion,JO) and the guy we dealt along with TJ to acquire fiya knees this needs more attention.....and at the end of this equation we didnt get to use fiya knees exp contract and turned marion into turkeydo and quietly Big Roy is about to become the legit rebounding in the paint center we needed all along...

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as you were...

Only if we can criticize every other single GM in hindsight for passing on players that ended up better than anyone expected. Only three current GMs haven't done that. Portland, Denver and Cleveland, and only because none of them have ever been in charge of a draft before.

Only if we can criticize every other single GM in hindsight for passing on players that ended up better than anyone expected. Only three current GMs haven't done that. Portland, Denver and Cleveland, and only because none of them have ever been in charge of a draft before.

Why does Colangelo always seem to whiff BIG when it comes to passing on players and larger acquisitions, but gets praise for his bunt singles?

I'm still waiting for one of his vaunted moves to pan out. Lottery picks, second rounders with health issues (Jawaii most noticeably), big trades that flop, big signings that flop harder. It don't stop! If some fans expect to give him props for acquiring the Amir Johnson's and Sonny Weems of the league he should get criticism for trading 1st round picks for players that would help this team considerably now.

I agree hindsight is 20-20 but when is his FORESIGHT ever going to amount to anything significant? I hope Andrea and DeMar pan out, but I don't ever expect to see either of those players in an all-star game.

For the record, you can't say "Hibbert for O'Neal" because it's not accurate. It was Ford and a pick for O'Neal. Whether or not the Raptors would have selected Hibbert had they planned to keep the pick no one can know. They took Hibbert because the Pacers wanted him.

Yea in his 2nd season in 25 MPG...and he is showing that he will be a 15/10 guy as a starter....meanwhile i bet you dont talk about bargs first 2 seasons being under 4 boards a game yea and he 7 foot TALK about it ?

Bargs career average is 4.8 boards a game,talk about ?

in 25 MPG 12 pts 6 rebs shooting 50 % in his 2nd season...is about to become a legit big on an up and comig team
meanwhile over here in his 6th season bargs still has people believing he's on the verge of an all star berth lol...

For the record, you can't say "Hibbert for O'Neal" because it's not accurate. It was Ford and a pick for O'Neal. Whether or not the Raptors would have selected Hibbert had they planned to keep the pick no one can know. They took Hibbert because the Pacers wanted him.

I don't if dealing the 17th pick is really all that high risk. And everyone seems to be forgetting the questions surrounding Hibbert when he came out. Most scouts thought he might not have the agility to be able to really be a big minute player in the NBA. Otherwise a 7'2 center that can defend, score and rebound would have gone much higher.

I don't if dealing the 17th pick is really all that high risk. And everyone seems to be forgetting the questions surrounding Hibbert when he came out. Most scouts thought he might not have the agility to be able to really be a big minute player in the NBA. Otherwise a 7'2 center that can defend, score and rebound would have gone much higher.

Same scouts that said Emeka Okafor was goin to be dominant low post player and a safer pick then D12.

Same scouts that said Emeka Okafor was goin to be dominant low post player and a safer pick then D12.

Okafor was a safer pick than Howard. Okafor had just won a national championship as the leader of UCONN and was named the most outstanding player of the tournament. Dwight Howard was a kid coming out of high school. You're using now to justify the past. It doesn't work that way.

Same scouts that said Emeka Okafor was goin to be dominant low post player and a safer pick then D12.

Okafor was the safest pick between the two at the time. Okafor was a winner at the NCAA level, and won a bunch of awards. The riskier pick went #1, and the Magic were rewarded by their patience. Hibbert will probably end up like Okafor. Solid double-double player (13/14-10) and will probably get a fat contract because of it.

No, we would burn him for his poor rebounding numbers. Just like we already do Bargnani. Over 7 ft tall, and less than 6 boards = Raptor fans hating you. JO brought us to Marion which brought us to cap space. Yeah, we blew it on Turk, but who wouldn't have at that point? Most of it was just a matter of bad luck.

I don't if dealing the 17th pick is really all that high risk. And everyone seems to be forgetting the questions surrounding Hibbert when he came out. Most scouts thought he might not have the agility to be able to really be a big minute player in the NBA. Otherwise a 7'2 center that can defend, score and rebound would have gone much higher.

Dealing the 17th pick was not the risky part, that was just part of paying too much. Taking on Jermaine's bad knees @ $22M/yr was the risk I was referring to...

For the record, you can't say "Hibbert for O'Neal" because it's not accurate. It was Ford and a pick for O'Neal. Whether or not the Raptors would have selected Hibbert had they planned to keep the pick no one can know. They took Hibbert because the Pacers wanted him.

you could always praise larry bird.

btw, it's not inaccurate either. it's more acurate than not.

Last edited by LBF; Wed Oct 20th, 2010 at 03:51 PM.

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