Russian Warehouse Find! Crates Of Machine Guns

According to a Facebook Page, Russian Look, this is what was found in a warehouse.

In the Russian warehouse tens of millions of working units of military weapons. Weapons of the Second World War, not much, but it is also millions in excellent condition.

I find the claim of tens of millions to be a bit hard to accept. Perhaps if they had a photo of the entire warehouse or at least showing multiple crates then maybe it could be plausible. Seeing what is in the crates is exciting though. I wonder what they will do with these?

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Avery

You missed out on the PM-63s in that first pic with the crate of Shpagins. Has anyone claimed this? Like, is this a Warsaw Pact surplus that just got lost or Viktor Bout’s hidden stash?

mikewest007

There’s a DP pan in the PPSh/PM63 crate too!

pbla4024

And DP itself in the MG-42 crate.

PK

I’m surprised it wasn’t an RP46, the belt fed DP28. Like goes with like and all.

Yeah, stockpiles like this (and this is a stockpile, I’m not buying the “abandoned” fantasy) must be incredibly interesting (drool-inducing) for any historian. Pity that when they even bother to try and re-furbish these surplus guns for civilian sales in Russia, they mangle them so badly it hurts.

Mother Demanding Action

And none of it will be imported. FML.

Anonymoose

We can only hope we get some of those Toks, autonuggets, and handnuggets.

noob

If they were transported with paperwork how many of them would be transferable? Would that bottom out the prices of dome transferrable full autos?

Paul Epstein

So far as I’m aware, all of the MGs are ‘non sporting’ and can’t be imported intact. Beyond that, they would have had to have been put on the NFA registry before 86 to be transferable, which is surpassingly unlikely as they’re not even on the continent.

Lt_Scrounge

I’m waiting for the current lawsuit to hit the Supreme Court that challenges the provision in the FOPA that makes it illegal to manufacture full autos for civilian ownership in this country. If Trump wins the White House and puts a few REAL Constitutional scholars on the Supreme Court, that amendment to the FOPA will fall, as will the “sporting use” requirement of the GCA and possibly the entirety of the NFA.

A historical analysis of the basis for the Second Amendment blows out ALL of those laws as being unconstitutional. The Second Amendment did not create, nor even codify the right to keep and bear arms. It EXTENDED the right that was originally codified in the 1689 Declaration of Rights passed by Parliament to the citizens of the new country. Parliament included the right to keep and bear arms in the Declaration of Rights in response to the previous king (James) ordering the disarmament of his protestant political opponents in order to allow his Catholic supporters to be able to raid and pillage their villages without fear of facing a well armed defense. Basically, the right wasn’t codified for hunting, or target shooting purposes, it was codified to allow the people to have the means to defend themselves from tyrants in government and their political allies.

PK

NFA items stopped being civilian legal if imported after 1968, the GCA did that. In May of 86, a rider to the FOPA made it so any, AT ALL, any MGs registered after that point can’t be transferred to private owners.

Basically, no chance at all that guns in a warehouse in Russia will end up here as intact full-autos.

Cattoo

There lie the four words “shall not be infringed”, skipped over, but left in the Amendment as if to mock us, that some politician skipped over when he was busy defending the Constitution so help him god, doing nothing.

nicholsda

Get a change of the ruling class and they could. There is a couple of things in the FOPA that would allow them to be legal for a short period to import and register. You just have to get the right people in office. And the thing is, it would not require a change in the laws.

jcitizen

GCA ’86 was “supposed” to force occasional amnesty periods that never bore fruit after GCA ’68, but we’ve all seen how that went.

Tassiebush

the AKs suggest it hasn’t just been put aside after WW2. it’d be interesting to know when this actually got warehoused together.

therealgreenplease

and why it is seemingly unmanned and abandoned.

LCON

Check the US hard enough I bet you would find a few similar staches. Cold war doomsday warehouse, War Surplus Left for a bad bad rainy day.

KestrelBike

What would be in it, though? M1s? Wouldn’t those have been CMP’d or gifted to nations like Korea? Doesn’t seem like there’d be many M-14s either.
Maybe M16-A2s that we haven’t thrown away (aka given to the Iraqis/ANA)…

PK

“What would be in it, though?”

Yes.

jamezb

We MADE, I believe 6 million M1 carbines… we gave away a hundred thousand here, a hundred thousand there… a few hundred thousand hit the US market.. A few hundred thousand lost destroyed etc…
MILLIONS possibly still in storage. Similar stories with other USGI guns. I knew a trucker who hauled surplus for the government, Who took a load to a storage facility in a Midwestern salt mine. he described it as a not particularly high security facility and a locked-trailer, ..but no escort, run. He was to return the trailer, and as it was being unloaded, he asked a “manager type” …as this was not a military run warehouse, what he had hauled. The manager grinned and opened a crate, took out a brown paper box marked Guide Lamp Division, and showed him a brand spanking new M3A1 .45 grease gun complete with the extra barrel and mag in 9mm, all in cosmoline and paper wrap, just like it left the factory. He had previously hauled tons of MRE’s Steel pot helmets, wool blankets, Jerry cans, etc to the same storage facility. He asked “What are you guys saving all this for?” The reply? (with a big grin)
“For the end of the world, of course!”

KestrelBike

Neat!

Lt_Scrounge

Sounds like one of the episodes of the show about trucking companies hiring bounty hunters to track down vehicles that the drivers have abandoned. One show the team found the truck and began taking it to its destination when they noticed they were being followed. One guy jumped out with a tire iron and charged at the vehicle that had been following them and it took off, never to be seen again. When they arrived at their destination, and the warehouse began unloading the trailer, they found out that it was loaded with large crates of large caliber military grade ammo. Think 50 caliber to 30 mm sized ammo.

MichaelZWilliamson

Craptons of Carbines were tossed into the Pacific after WWII and Korea because, “Peace is here!”

Idjits.

richard kluesek

Remember Stanley Kubrick’s flick “Dr Strangelove”?

jamezb

We’ll meet again,
don’t know where,
don’t know when,
but by that point we’ll probably glow in the dark and bleed out our ears…

George Dean

I believe that a M3A1s were in .45 caliber. The Marine Corps’ were. I’ve never heard of on in 9mm.

Steve_7

There was a replacement barrel and magazine in 9mm.

AirborneSoldier

45 only. Correct. I shot quite a few rounds through such a gun in 1988 in korea.45. If they made a 9mm conversion, no gi ever saw it

George Dean

I personally never saw one in 9 mm nor had I ever heard of one in that caliber, however facts prove me wrong. The following is from a Wiki article on the M3A1:

“Around 1000 M3 submachine guns in caliber 9mm Parabellum were built by Guide Lamp.[10] These original 9mm guns, identified by the markings “U.S. 9 mm S.M.G.” on the left side of the magazine well (without any model designation, such as M3), were delivered to the OSS in 1944. Additionally, Rock Island Arsenal and Buffalo Arms Corporation manufactured parts for a limited number of 9mm conversion kits for the M3.[11] Though 25,000 kits were originally requested for procurement, this was changed to a recommendation by the Ordnance Committee in December 1943 that only 500 9mm conversion kits be obtained.[11] Procurement was authorized in February 1944, but it is believed that only a limited number of kits were actually produced.[11] These conversion kits included a new 9mm barrel, replacement bolt and recoil springs, a magazine well adapter for use with Sten magazines, and a replacement 9mm STEN magazine of British manufacture.[11] As the M3’s sights were not altered for the new cartridge, the 9mm M3 shot high at 100 yards, but the sighting error was deemed inconsequential. The OSS also requested approximately 1,000 .45-caliber M3 submachine guns with an integral sound suppressor (designed by Bell Laboratories). Specially drilled barrels and barrel nuts were manufactured by Guide Lamp, while the High Standard Firearms Company produced the internal components and assembled the weapon.[12] The Bell Laboratories suppressor was estimated to be only 80% as efficient as the British suppressed STEN Mk IIS.[13]”

Steve_7

I don’t think that’s right, M1 carbines were available through DCM for years. Title 1 firearm, so why stop selling them? CMP has been warning for awhile they’re running out of M1 Garands.

George Dean

The South Koreans have several hundred thousand lend-leased M1 Garands available to be returned to the U.S. Obama has prohibited their import to the U.S. He doesn’t want them on the U.S. market via the CMP program. This issue arose within the past few years.

AirborneSoldier

They were purchased, rather than lend leased, which makes the sale back here legal. Except it isnt due to him.

DataMatters

I don’t think people today can even get their heads around how many guns were made during WWII.

Wil Radford

You would be correct. I saw on the History channel (iirc) where there are warehouses in Alabama and elsewhere that are packed full of mint Thompsons, Garands, BARs etc that are just sitting there. If the gubmint wasn’t so bassackwards, the Treasury could raise millions of dollars for the general fund by making these guns available to collectors.

jcitizen

Several days were supposed to be occasionally announced where exemption was offered for legal registration. and even the GCA’86 was suppose to force this amnesty program. But as usual the BATFE has refused to do it. And then they wonder why we won’t give once inch on anymore gun laws.

Steve_7

I was under the impression they were or had been scrapped? This is why the NRA is always getting riders put on appropriation bills to stop them from destroying the 1911s. I’m sure I remember torch cut Thompson SMG receivers on the market years ago that were USG surplus. Why hold onto them when they’re literally giving away huge numbers of M16s to Afghanistan and Iraq under MAP?

jcitizen

Last estimate I read was over 100,000 unregistered NFA Title II weapons. I’d say that Chinese shipment a few years ago, and the cartels flooding the black market in weapons has that figure as pretty low.

It does not seem unmanned and abandoned. The only thing stating that is a web comment written like the author was on undustrial-strength downers.

durabo

For sale to George Soros, so he can “assist” Comrade Chairman Hillary when TSHTF?

Lt_Scrounge

The Soviets didn’t throw much of anything away weapons wise. This warehouse could have crates of weapons spanning 90 or more years of production in it. With all of the weapons that they would’ve captured from the Germans during WWII, who knows what all is in there.

LCON

In That last photo the AKs look Like AKs74U’s based on the length and muzzle device, That means they must have been added post 1975

Anonymoose

I thought the AKS-74U came out in 1979? Anyway, this warehouse could have been overlooked since the end of the Soviet Union.

PK

Being overlooked since the fall seems the most likely. You wouldn’t believe how chaotic things were there, back then.

LCON

You are right Moose. I was giving a Round number as in post (Some time after) 1975 given that for all we can see these could be prototypes. but in all likelihood early to mid 80’s given the numbers and the wood on the AKS74U.

Would it be normal for military firearms to be stored with empty magazines locked in, as in the last photo?

11b

No, but this is Russia so there’s probably a full mag with a round chambered 😉

PK

Where’s the safety?

“Is gun. Is not safe.”

KestrelBike

Lol perfect

Iggy

Aaaaaaaaaaand suddenly Donbass is going to look like a WWII reenactment.

Sasquatch

Some company better get busy on importing these thing!

Richard Chelvan

Dream on! Many of them are full auto. But for the rest, I’m with you. But the Stasi here are not going to allow it.

Anon. E Maus

I imagine some could be cut up into part’s kits.

jcitizen

I think they are even blocking those from importation now – or at least they don’t allow barrels with the kits.

John Willis

comrade obummer will say never,,, these are going to my people isis / isil

Sasquatch

I would take a gun converted into semi.

LeeC

Hell, we can’t even get our own semi guns back from overseas… Garands and carbines come to mind.

Sasquatch

This is true…… Kill joy…..

lehndorf

Yep, let the greed begin.

Mr Evilwrench

What in hell’s wrong with greed? Elect me dictator instead of hitlery and say goodbye Hughes amendment. MG34s, 42s, ППШ-41, AK-47 etc. would be for sale at market value. Does anyone know if they had any StG-44s?

Nimrod

Love to see the pistols and rifles (were some of those SKSs?) imported.

Anonymoose

I thought so too at first, but the SKS doesn’t have a ring charging handle. Those babies are SVT-40s.

PK

Or AVTs… a man can dream.

Anonymoose

But then we’d never get them. :C

PK

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but even if they’re SVTs we’re unable to import them to the US due to our standing sanctions against Russia with regards to small arms. It’s a miserable situation.

Porty1119

And yet VEPR-12s are still being imported- I believe the unconstitutional sanctions are only on the Kalashnikov Concern. Where there’s a will, there’s a way.

PK

It’s a massive CF, honestly. Hard to untangle, but it seems to me from my reading of the sanctions that anything owned, directly or indirectly, by the Russian government, is a no-go. People in power being partial owners of various makers made them fall under sanctions as well.

KestrelBike

Tangent: what is the main purpose of them producing seemingly all of their ammo with bimetal jackets? Cost, or penetration performance?

Maybe the Mexicans will start smuggling Russian guns into the US, lord knows there aren’t ever enough guns. And we have a gun show loop hole? LOL. Or is it “We have a White House ass hole”

Steve_7

All the import bans on Warsaw Pact countries were lifted, even for Russia, but it was re-imposed in 1996 after the Chinese tried to flood the US market and ATF started to see a massive increase in import applications for Russian firearms.

Scott P

SVT’s were banned before the 2014 sanctions. If they weren’t they would be going for what they are go for in Canada which is less than $500. Think about it why havent you seen major vendors advertising SVT’s like the Mosin’s over the years and going for over $1,000? SVT’s are on the same ban list as the Dragunov as part of an agreement to ban pistols and “scary” rifles from Russia signed by Clinton and Yeltsin as a “mutual understanding”. Molot and Tula are not sanctioned because they are private entities unlike Kalashnikov Concern which has government involvement thus banned. That is why VEPR long guns have not shot up in price and their shotguns can still be had for around $700 but Saiga shotguns are easily eclipsing $1,000.

PK

Right, the 1990s sanctions/agreement/ban, whatever you’d like to call it. Seems like we’ve got sanctions against this, that, and the other… and we keep adding. Can you think of any case where we’ve relaxed such restrictions?

Steve_7

The new sanctions aren’t what bans the SVT from import, the import ban imposed in 1996 is the relevant law.

Wouldn’t that be glorious? In Venezuela you see videos of people raiding a semi-trailer full of live chickens; in America you’d see pot-bellied t-shirt wearing dudes scurrying away from a parachute on the ground with an mg-42 under one arm and a ppsh under the other, sweating like an out of shape suburbanite

wwiifighterpilot

Hey! I resemble that comment!

nicholsda

Or we could just wait for the UN troops to arrive and take theirs away from them.

DataMatters

SVT is kind of a punishing rifle to actually fire.

cody s

I shoot lots with mine it has less recoil than my hk mr 762a1 which is 308. All you need to do is put the gas plug on 1.1 or 1.2

myfordtruck

A bunch of us on that list

nicholsda

Some of us have a crate of ammo awaiting. 🙂

DB

We’ll be fighting to get a .25 Raven if she gets in!

Anonymoose

There are still a lot of countries using the MG3, and they could rebarrel those MG42s to 7.62 NATO and make some money off them…or they could sell them to us as parts kits to rebuild as closed-bolt semi-autos.

Franivelius

I wish to find one of that crates some day…

Pete Sheppard

Droooollll….

Porty1119

Tens of millions? Maybe a slight exaggeration, but only slight- this is Russia we’re talking about. Someone needs to find a way to import those Toks, Nagant revolvers, and the SVT-40s. MG-34 and MG-42 parts kits would be very welcome as well.

The Soviets produced and captured a whole lot of weapons last century. It is not so hard to believe that number could be 10s of millions.

Richard

I would love to walk through there with a train of shopping carts

Lance

Call century arms need to send buyers to Russia!

BjornTheBrave

Now there’s a spot of luck!

Denis Kochkan

This warehouse called Gosrezerv (Госрезерв, State Reserve Warehouse).

ozzallos .

I could see this seriously driving down the price of some imports.

john huscio

Century international to the rescue!

sean

I want one of those Suchkas!!!!

toms

I visited a warehouse in ukraine that had crates of NIW tommy guns and stacks of crated .45 ball ammo from 1943 as well as other dated weapons from the 40’s-60’s. I was there to look at a surplus BRDM for purchase. The soviets were the original weapon hoarders.

Blue Centurion

Did you get the BRDM?

OJS

I’ll never care about a ‘barn find’ car again

Andrew Dubya

Too bad we`re not going to be seeing those Tokarevs, Nagant Revolvers, AKs in parts kits, SVTs or pretty much anything else with import restrictions like they are, unless of course the Russians do like they always have and get creative.

iblis

I WANT !!!!!

jamezb

(Thinks to self)
“I’m gonna need a bigger shopping cart..”

jamezb

I saw no Mosin’s – I think they sold them all to us already.

P. Pablo

Oh my God, these are rare guns, especially the MG34’s. This is whats nice about the former Soviet Union they keep all sorts of stuffs from bygone eras. Collectors are now scampering to find out who to contact!

Boogur T. Wang

My money says this stuff will surface in Nicaraugua or some other 3rd (turd) world place where Russian influence is waining.

AHill

Welp, looks like some more SVTs are gonna hit the market here soon. Woo-hoo. Hopefully my antique cosmoline covered Nagant is in a pile in that warehouse.

Ideally someone would import the MG34s sans receivers and build a bunch of semi autos at a low cost so I can have a 6 round belt to make the Libs wet themselves.

Adam D.

Those SVT-40s and the brand new Nagant revolvers!

d_grey

This is just as fantastic as the time the british police caught a fellow having stored a huge quantity of firearms and an m72 LAW in a warehouse, can’t find that article on this site anymore. :/

Bob

You know, if someone were to buy a house and find the previous owner was a crazy prepper with a hidden stash in the basement with everything from a WW1 machine gun to a full auto AK47 from Vietnam, what would this hypothetical person need to do to get everything legal and above board? Get a class 3 license? Register every full auto firearm? Or is it basically impossible with our current laws?

(Sadly, I do not suffer from this particular issue… Damn it.)

AHill

All you can do is turn them into the ATF. The best option is to find a museum willing to take them after turn in. Usually the ATF is willing to work with the museum to save them from destruction. I’ve heard some people have gotten charitable donation receipts for them as well.

The other option is to strip what parts you can and turn the receiver(s) in for destruction. Don’t hold on to the receivers too long – NFA violations are felonies with heavy penalties.

keep em hidden and tell no one until amnesty is declared once again. the weapons could be registered however in which case there are legal things you can do to get gal possession. But how you find out if they are registered is to do the following. Call the ATF say you were interested in purchasing a nfa item from an online classified but you want to make sure the serial number is real before you plunk down your money. Some atf reps will not run the numbers model etc for you others will. If real registered call again and say what you found and you want to fill the paperwork to transfer them to you and pay the tax stamps if no heirs are around . There would be some time to find out if there is anybody else who could lay claim but maybe not.

Matt Wilder

It’s something I thought of when I moved here to FL, and realized that my neighbor is a prepper, and that the past owners of this property were less than legal people and also liked to bury things as a matter of habit. I’m hoping one day I find a nice stash around here. I’ve found some pretty strange things around the property, like enough parts to make an early 90’s Chevy truck, a buried radio/cd player that still worked, all the way to a pair of buried flip flops with the tags still on them. But, if I did find anything fun, I’d tell no one. It’s like if I ever won the lottery, I swore I’d never tell a soul if I did, and I’m sticking to that.

William Taylor

AHill is correct, unfortunately. The 1986 law that mandated this nonsense is pretty airtight. After that grandfather period, long expired by now, no further fully auto capable firearms can ever be registered. Dunno if this law can be gotten around, but law enforcement agencies and museums are the only legal homes for this sort of thing. Other than that, torch cut.

nicholsda

There is an amnesty period clause in the FOPA of 1986. It only takes the right people in office to open the Registry up again. But it wouldn’t make any difference if 0 before he leaves office or HilLIARy if she were to get in declare all firearms illegal. Because what difference would owning a firearm or a full auto one make, we’d all be outlaws anyway. 😉

felix

Ban import bans!!!!!!!!

Rocketman

Personally, I can believe that the Russians have got tens of millions of WW2 surplus arms stacked away. They never throw away anything that they think that they might have a use for later. Many bridges and airfields have T-34 tank turrets from worn out tanks to defend those positions and I remember hearing from someone who had gone to Russia that he had personally seen a warehouse that had among other weapons old Thompson submachine guns. He estimated that there must have been between 45 to 55 thousand old Thompson guns there.

Mc Cain

Bingo…this is spot on. I think we would all be amazed to learn precisely how many munitions are squirreled away throughout all the former Soviet Union and the Eastern Block nations.

nicholsda

I think many would be surprised just how much is squirreled away here in the US too. 100,000 of one type here, another 100,000 there. 100,000 more another place.

Billy Jack

Pornographic.

ramv36

Welcome Russian surplus store, can I take order?

Yes, um, I’ll have 2 MG42s, a PPSH-41, and a 6-pack of those pistols you have on special.

Jeremy David Thomson

Is that a Degtyaryov next to the MG42s? No Pan magazine, I can’t actually see the barrel.

Steve Kosovich

I will take one of each ….please!😜

Cattoo

Don’t tell California. Or NY/NJ.

doug

Libs will crap their pants just looking at these pics !!!

William Taylor

Oh wow…….. lookit the SVT-40s!!! What’s going to happen to them? With our current Prezident you even have to ask? Not coming here, that is for sure!

dagray

I smell surplus.

Mc Cain

I feel a strange sense of lust.

Davis

First notice the “export” cardboard crates in the background are in ENGLISH but weights are in Kg.
The AK47U’s in the photos were not introduced until 1974 so it’s not a “Vietnam/Korean/WWII war” stash. Plus it’s a staged photo with mags in the guns.
The serial numbers on a lot of them are clearly visible so a historian could tell you more.,
My thoughts are that this “Russian Warehouse find” is a hoax.

Caffeinated

Looks like guns from all over the Eastern Block. Some of the MG42s are actually M53s made in the former Yugoslavia. Some of the TTs are Polish as are PM63 SMGs.

Jeremy Smith

I want one of each. That’s all.

1911a145acp

My Father joined the U.S. Army Air Corps in 1943, retired USAF in ’69- told me when he was in SAC ( Strategic Air Command ) at an USAF Air base in Iceland in early 60s he was tasked to find aircraft parts and pieces that wind from a storm had pushed off base the night before. He and a handful of mechanics took tracked vehicles to look for the parts. They never found the parts- but did find two Quonset huts partially uncovered from the storm buried in the snow and ice. They pried back the roofs and climbed down and found hundreds of Pratt & Whitney R-2800 18 cyl 2000 Hp engines new in crates, props spares, engine work stands, tools etc. He always thought they were pre-positioned for DC-4 and Constellation transports at the end of the Korean era and just forgotten about. Currently props are going for 25K stripped engine cores approx. 50K Wonder if they are still there?

Matt Wilder

Hot damn! As an aviation guy first and foremost, that’s actually a little more interesting than all those very nice MG34s and 42s in the above article, and not even necessarily for monetary reasons. Though it would be nice to fund a project with their sale to build something very nice to fit one of those P&W 2800s.

Jacque Mehoff

Bonanza…bring em to market!!!

Mike Lashewitz

Well now that looks like a lot of fun.

CountryBoy

Come to papa!

MichaelZWilliamson

And in an alternate universe, those could be imported and transferred for $200 each.

Mike Lashewitz

Why I am against full auto by Mike>
I am against full auto because it wastes rounds and in the upcoming civil war that will start as a conflict between real Americans and the mislabeled miscreants of ISIS, Black Lives Matters racists, MS 13 gangland illegals and liberal insanes, all planned with intent by the Wealth Elite to divide us and waste our ammo too early.
Then when we have been weakened they will have their private armies of the UN and three letter organizations including the FDA and the now well armed Post Office among many others to complete the job the miscreant fools started. Meanwhile the Wealth Elite, the CAUSE of our present dilemma and failing economy, the psychopathetic wannabe controllers of out planet, sit back in their private estates with their private armies or in their underground holdings waiting until the landscape is cleared of the free people.
Then they can set up their petty fiefdoms and play god out in the open.

You do not have enough ammo. If you cannot repair your weapons and do not have enough back up parts your time is limited by both.

If Trump does not make it to office because the Hildabeast has him killed then all of the above will take place. Why else do you think she lies to everybody? TO GET WHAT SHE WANTS

nicholsda

Most of those that are prepared don’t have spare parts. They have spare guns. 🙂

Mike Lashewitz

Can never have nor afford enough these days.

L. Roger Rich

Like N Korea. Obama and the UN ban the importation of any surplus firearms from Russia also a few years ago. They will be melt down or sold to ISIS.

Donnie Buchanan

South Korea has a warehouse full of m-1’s that belong to the US. They offered to let us have them back, but O’Butthead said no. He wont allow any of these either.

Roadrunner0

The US has all sorts of surplus items stored around the country.. I would bet the Pentagon is hiding these items from Obama.. They even have thousands of new propeller airplanes like P51’s and B29’s that are impervious to EMP damage so as to pull them out if we get attacked.. The thousands of miles of tunnels they have built are to transport these items to the area of attack so they can be deployed in that kind of emergency.. I recall a psychic said she saw WW2 planes attacking a Chinese invasion of the Pacific northwest after an EMP..

FalconMoose

I hope so. A P-51……hmmmm, lovely.

Anonymoose

Thanks to Obama’s executive orders following the Ukrainian debacle.

Steve_7

Nothing to do with Obama. Been in place since 1996. It was a follow-on from the ban on Chinese imports in 1993, they didn’t want the same thing happening with the Russians. All Obama did was place bans on certain companies, who happen to make the Saiga which is excluded from the ban.

Anonymoose

Clinton, Obama, Clinton, SSDD.

jcitizen

This ain’t fair!! Now I went and slobbered all over my nice clean shirt!!! :p