It's a bit late in the game to argue terminology, but this is a battle worth fighting. TBC is not ToBeConfirmed. It is To Be Continued, which is a quite different concept. Let's be purists in our use of terminology so nobody should be confused.

It's a bit late in the game to argue terminology, but this is a battle worth fighting. TBC is not ToBeConfirmed. It is To Be Continued, which is a quite different concept. Let's be purists in our use of terminology so nobody should be confused.

It's a bit late in the game to argue terminology, but this is a battle worth fighting. TBC is not ToBeConfirmed. It is To Be Continued, which is a quite different concept. Let's be purists in our use of terminology so nobody should be confused.

I have been quite disappointed this season at the lack of a timeline. I attempted to keep a running one up for about the last half of AR20. Here is a total timeline for AR20 (See the AR20 Transportation Thread if you want details of the flights that are the glue that binds the legs together):Nov. 26 - 28 flights LAX MIA, MIA EZE, EZE SLA to get to Salta for leg 1 tasks

Here are some notes and a few ways in which this differs from Apskip's timeline here:

Leg #1Since the first flights were producer-provided, I think they would have bundled all teams together on the same flight up until Buenos Aires, which jives with our sightings of all teams at the same gate at LAX. Given the choice between the Aerolíneas Argentinas flight and the American Airlines flight, I believe producers would have got a cheaper, single ticket on AA.

Leg #3I included the direct flight to Asunción that the earlier teams took.

Leg #4A connection in Brazil is confirmed by the airport scene of Bopper/Mark realising they're on a later flight, where the window panes of the terminal show a logo based on the Brazilian flag. I'm not too sure whether it's São Paulo or Rio de Janeiro though, but the schedules suggest the former. Pit Stop check-in times are from the shadows at Art/JJ's arrival, which run straight across the plaza.

Leg #5I got the train timings based off current timetables, but most of the clues match up. The train timings are consistent with the times at which teams checked out of Turin, there's a clock showing 7am as the second wave of teams arrive at Ehrwald, and we see a shot of the train number Bopper/Mark are on. All the teams actually had to connect through Garmisch-Partenkirchen (where the yodelling restaurant the next morning is), which shows how contrived production makes the route to try to bunch teams. Rachel/Dave and Joey/Danny actually spent the night in town, took a train the next morning to Ehrwald, just to grab a car and drive back to where they started! Also, Bopper/Mark caught up with Kerri/Stacy somewhere along the Italian main line; they took the same train arriving in Innsbruck.

Leg #7Teams connected in Dubai, not Istanbul. Just as teams step off the plane in Nairobi (before the squabble) you can see the Emirates uniform on the airline staff. This means they arrived in Arusha the same night (you can also see the boarding pass for PW 728 during the fight), not the next morning.

Leg #8Thanks DrRox for figuring out the Arusha hotel transfer!

Leg #9I'm still not 100% sure about the flights, because if you watch the episode you'll find severe sound editing when it comes to when flights are supposed to arrive. It also confuses me that teams going to Dar es Salaam doubled back to Nairobi before continuing on to Doha, where they have plenty of options to get to Nairobi to catch Vanessa/Ralph's Dubai flight. Did they just not do enough homework? But you also see Art/JJ on a Qatar Airways plane, so maybe what we have is correct after all.

Leg #11Teams were clearly shown taking a China Eastern flight, which rules out the Seoul option. There is an option of connecting through Kuala Lumpur to get to Shanghai, but it's slightly less convenient than the Singapore connection. I'm also revising the Osaka Pit Stop to three hours instead of two; Ryan Gartman's camera has EXIF data, and using the Moscow clock-tower trick on another photo of him wearing a watch, it has the Rachel/Dave check-in photo just three minutes short of the three hour duration. (We'd assume the chat with Phil after check-in takes at least that long.) But three hours has got to be the shortest Pit Stop on record (well ignoring the TBCs)! What would happen if Ralph/Vanessa got stuck somewhere and Phil misses his flight to the finale? Would we have to Guido Phil?

Leg #12Art/JJ did not take into account time difference when they said they had 12h to rest; that's the clock duration of the flight.

GeneralMost Pit Stop durations were figured out in great part by JJ's big watch (and sometimes Dave's too). So future racers please wear analog watches with big faces to help me out!

I placed the extended Pit Stops (well, those over 24h) in Baku, Arusha, and Kochi. They're set up so that teams still arrive one day and leave the next, albeit in the late afternoon or evening (always to book tickets for the next morning). They're also positioned just before the complicated travel segments, giving Phil time to move ahead of the teams. The extended Pit Stop in Arusha also give time for Bopper/Mark, who check in to Mto wa Mbu in the afternoon, to move to the Arusha Pit Stop hotel and then be examined by the doctor at noon the next day (according to the doctor's watch).Unlike in Apskip's timeline, I avoided placing the extended Pit Stops in the middle of double-leg countries, in this case Leg #7 (Ngorongoro) and Leg #9 (Kochi). Phil doesn't have to run around as much, and traditionally these Pit Stops have been shorter affairs. Mark/Bopper help with the timeline again: Bopper doesn't have time to recover from his minor heatstroke before the start of the next leg.Consolidated, the Pit Stop durations are: 13h, 15h, 20h, 19h, 19h, 36h, 15h, 34h, 21h, 29h, 3h.

I'm also working on the maps for TAR 20 and am just about done; if anyone is feeling up to the challenge please help me find the Fast Forward location in Baku and the Pit Stop hotel for the second Kochi leg!

« Last Edit: September 04, 2012, 10:39:17 AM by Neobie »

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But can I add a little correction? The second time Rachel & Dave go to Moli'i Fishpond, after Rachel completed the RB, they ride an ATV - the same with Art & JJ and Brendon & Rachel (I'm making the sync of the spanish subs for the final Leg, and I checked this on the video)-.

Regarding the Nairobi confusion on the Arusha to Kochi flights.....the only conclusion I could come up with was a seat availability problem. It seemed to me that Ralph/Vanessa just were going to wait at the travel agency in Arusha to the last possible moment to see if they could find seats on the earlier arriving Dubai flight and they were successful. If there was a seat bottleneck, it could have been either the Nairobi to Dubai or the Dubai to Kochi segments. I doubt we will ever know unless someone asks the racers. The other teams certainly could have checked in Dar es Salaam, but either they did and seats were not available or they didnt care about the time differential. Even if Ralph/Vanessa managed the earlier arrival.....the other 4 teams knew that they would arrive in a tie for 2nd and just fight it out after arrival in Kochi.

Here are some notes and a few ways in which this differs from Apskip's timeline here:

Leg #1Since the first flights were producer-provided, I think they would have bundled all teams together on the same flight up until Buenos Aires, which jives with our sightings of all teams at the same gate at LAX. Given the choice between the Aerolíneas Argentinas flight and the American Airlines flight, I believe producers would have got a cheaper, single ticket on AA.

Leg #3I included the direct flight to Asunción that the earlier teams took.

Leg #4A connection in Brazil is confirmed by the airport scene of Bopper/Mark realising they're on a later flight, where the window panes of the terminal show a logo based on the Brazilian flag. I'm not too sure whether it's São Paulo or Rio de Janeiro though, but the schedules suggest the former. Pit Stop check-in times are from the shadows at Art/JJ's arrival, which run straight across the plaza.

Leg #5I got the train timings based off current timetables, but most of the clues match up. The train timings are consistent with the times at which teams checked out of Turin, there's a clock showing 7am as the second wave of teams arrive at Ehrwald, and we see a shot of the train number Bopper/Mark are on. All the teams actually had to connect through Garmisch-Partenkirchen (where the yodelling restaurant the next morning is), which shows how contrived production makes the route to try to bunch teams. Rachel/Dave and Joey/Danny actually spent the night in town, took a train the next morning to Ehrwald, just to grab a car and drive back to where they started! Also, Bopper/Mark caught up with Kerri/Stacy somewhere along the Italian main line; they took the same train arriving in Innsbruck.

Leg #7Teams connected in Dubai, not Istanbul. Just as teams step off the plane in Nairobi (before the squabble) you can see the Emirates uniform on the airline staff. This means they arrived in Arusha the same night (you can also see the boarding pass for PW 728 during the fight), not the next morning.

Leg #8Thanks DrRox for figuring out the Arusha hotel transfer!

Leg #9I'm still not 100% sure about the flights, because if you watch the episode you'll find severe sound editing when it comes to when flights are supposed to arrive. It also confuses me that teams going to Dar es Salaam doubled back to Nairobi before continuing on to Doha, where they have plenty of options to get to Nairobi to catch Vanessa/Ralph's Dubai flight. Did they just not do enough homework? But you also see Art/JJ on a Qatar Airways plane, so maybe what we have is correct after all.

Leg #11Teams were clearly shown taking a China Eastern flight, which rules out the Seoul option. There is an option of connecting through Kuala Lumpur to get to Shanghai, but it's slightly less convenient than the Singapore connection. I'm also revising the Osaka Pit Stop to three hours instead of two; Ryan Gartman's camera has EXIF data, and using the Moscow clock-tower trick on another photo of him wearing a watch, it has the Rachel/Dave check-in photo just three minutes short of the three hour duration. (We'd assume the chat with Phil after check-in takes at least that long.) But three hours has got to be the shortest Pit Stop on record (well ignoring the TBCs)! What would happen if Ralph/Vanessa got stuck somewhere and Phil misses his flight to the finale? Would we have to Guido Phil?

Leg #12Art/JJ did not take into account time difference when they said they had 12h to rest; that's the clock duration of the flight.

GeneralMost Pit Stop durations were figured out in great part by JJ's big watch (and sometimes Dave's too). So future racers please wear analog watches with big faces to help me out!

I placed the extended Pit Stops (well, those over 24h) in Baku, Arusha, and Kochi. They're set up so that teams still arrive one day and leave the next, albeit in the late afternoon or evening (always to book tickets for the next morning). They're also positioned just before the complicated travel segments, giving Phil time to move ahead of the teams. The extended Pit Stop in Arusha also give time for Bopper/Mark, who check in to Mto wa Mbu in the afternoon, to move to the Arusha Pit Stop hotel and then be examined by the doctor at noon the next day (according to the doctor's watch).Unlike in Apskip's timeline, I avoided placing the extended Pit Stops in the middle of double-leg countries, in this case Leg #7 (Ngorongoro) and Leg #9 (Kochi). Phil doesn't have to run around as much, and traditionally these Pit Stops have been shorter affairs. Mark/Bopper help with the timeline again: Bopper doesn't have time to recover from his minor heatstroke before the start of the next leg.Consolidated, the Pit Stop durations are: 13h, 15h, 20h, 19h, 19h, 36h, 15h, 34h, 21h, 29h, 3h.

I'm also working on the maps for TAR 20 and am just about done; if anyone is feeling up to the challenge please help me find the Fast Forward location in Baku and the Pit Stop hotel for the second Kochi leg!

One more thing, about the travel from Ezeiza Airport to Aeroparque.

According to the time they arrived to Buenos Aires, the most probable way the teams travelled from one terminal to the other is by bus. There's a bus company called "Manuel Tienda León" who provides charter services between Ezeiza and Aeroparque, and has a service who departs from the International Airport at 11.15PM and arrives to Jorge Newbery at 00.30AM (there's another one scheduled 00.00-01.15AM). By the way, this is the less expensive option of all, no matter if the charter was hired previously by WRP or the same teams had to buy the tickets for it (and the safest one).

The first two pics are from the Retiro Bus Terminal on Buenos Aires. The interesting thing about this two are not only the place itself - as a retrace of the TAR steps -, but the fact that this is not the designated place were people can get their taxis. This is the Section "C" from the parking lot of the Terminal.The last photo shows Art & JJ jumping into their cab in that place. The thing here is that all the taxis there belong to the same company "RADIO TAXI MI TAXI", as we can see in the insert. That means teams were especifically sent to that section to get into those cabs and not the others on the taxi stand.

Here are some notes and a few ways in which this differs from Apskip's timeline here:

Leg #1Since the first flights were producer-provided, I think they would have bundled all teams together on the same flight up until Buenos Aires, which jives with our sightings of all teams at the same gate at LAX. Given the choice between the Aerolíneas Argentinas flight and the American Airlines flight, I believe producers would have got a cheaper, single ticket on AA.

Leg #3I included the direct flight to Asunción that the earlier teams took.

Leg #4A connection in Brazil is confirmed by the airport scene of Bopper/Mark realising they're on a later flight, where the window panes of the terminal show a logo based on the Brazilian flag. I'm not too sure whether it's São Paulo or Rio de Janeiro though, but the schedules suggest the former. Pit Stop check-in times are from the shadows at Art/JJ's arrival, which run straight across the plaza.

Leg #5I got the train timings based off current timetables, but most of the clues match up. The train timings are consistent with the times at which teams checked out of Turin, there's a clock showing 7am as the second wave of teams arrive at Ehrwald, and we see a shot of the train number Bopper/Mark are on. All the teams actually had to connect through Garmisch-Partenkirchen (where the yodelling restaurant the next morning is), which shows how contrived production makes the route to try to bunch teams. Rachel/Dave and Joey/Danny actually spent the night in town, took a train the next morning to Ehrwald, just to grab a car and drive back to where they started! Also, Bopper/Mark caught up with Kerri/Stacy somewhere along the Italian main line; they took the same train arriving in Innsbruck.

Leg #7Teams connected in Dubai, not Istanbul. Just as teams step off the plane in Nairobi (before the squabble) you can see the Emirates uniform on the airline staff. This means they arrived in Arusha the same night (you can also see the boarding pass for PW 728 during the fight), not the next morning.

Leg #8Thanks DrRox for figuring out the Arusha hotel transfer!

Leg #9I'm still not 100% sure about the flights, because if you watch the episode you'll find severe sound editing when it comes to when flights are supposed to arrive. It also confuses me that teams going to Dar es Salaam doubled back to Nairobi before continuing on to Doha, where they have plenty of options to get to Nairobi to catch Vanessa/Ralph's Dubai flight. Did they just not do enough homework? But you also see Art/JJ on a Qatar Airways plane, so maybe what we have is correct after all.

Leg #11Teams were clearly shown taking a China Eastern flight, which rules out the Seoul option. There is an option of connecting through Kuala Lumpur to get to Shanghai, but it's slightly less convenient than the Singapore connection. I'm also revising the Osaka Pit Stop to three hours instead of two; Ryan Gartman's camera has EXIF data, and using the Moscow clock-tower trick on another photo of him wearing a watch, it has the Rachel/Dave check-in photo just three minutes short of the three hour duration. (We'd assume the chat with Phil after check-in takes at least that long.) But three hours has got to be the shortest Pit Stop on record (well ignoring the TBCs)! What would happen if Ralph/Vanessa got stuck somewhere and Phil misses his flight to the finale? Would we have to Guido Phil?

Leg #12Art/JJ did not take into account time difference when they said they had 12h to rest; that's the clock duration of the flight.

GeneralMost Pit Stop durations were figured out in great part by JJ's big watch (and sometimes Dave's too). So future racers please wear analog watches with big faces to help me out!

I placed the extended Pit Stops (well, those over 24h) in Baku, Arusha, and Kochi. They're set up so that teams still arrive one day and leave the next, albeit in the late afternoon or evening (always to book tickets for the next morning). They're also positioned just before the complicated travel segments, giving Phil time to move ahead of the teams. The extended Pit Stop in Arusha also give time for Bopper/Mark, who check in to Mto wa Mbu in the afternoon, to move to the Arusha Pit Stop hotel and then be examined by the doctor at noon the next day (according to the doctor's watch).Unlike in Apskip's timeline, I avoided placing the extended Pit Stops in the middle of double-leg countries, in this case Leg #7 (Ngorongoro) and Leg #9 (Kochi). Phil doesn't have to run around as much, and traditionally these Pit Stops have been shorter affairs. Mark/Bopper help with the timeline again: Bopper doesn't have time to recover from his minor heatstroke before the start of the next leg.Consolidated, the Pit Stop durations are: 13h, 15h, 20h, 19h, 19h, 36h, 15h, 34h, 21h, 29h, 3h.

I'm also working on the maps for TAR 20 and am just about done; if anyone is feeling up to the challenge please help me find the Fast Forward location in Baku and the Pit Stop hotel for the second Kochi leg!

I found the schedules of the different services teams used to travel to complete the info from the Timeline:

LA VELOZ DEL NORTE/1rst bus: dep. 12.00am. arr. 08.00am.

NUEVA CHEVALLIER/2nd. bus: dep. 12.50am. arr. 07.45am + 2 - 09.45am.

LA VELOZ DEL NORTE/3rd. bus: dep. 15.30pm. arr. 09.30am.

Note: I added the two hours delay to respect what the team members said on the episode, but I estimate that they were more time stranded. It's the only way the third bus could left them behind, and cut out a 2.40 minutes difference (also, when they all reach the Mercado, Nary & Jaime and Kerry & Stacey has already gone).