Scout should just fold up and quit. I like Hubbard as much as the next guy, but 5*? Seriously? That is as egrigious as having Green as the #1 back in the country last year, possibly worse. No one even knows what position Hubbard will play, or if he will be good at it. He is a good athlete, but he is not such an elite athlete that it is obvious that he will be good anywhere on the field (like Clowney). Hubbard is a tweener. Way too big for safety, probably on the big side of LB, but too small (buildwise) for a DE.

There is a 0 percent chance that he is a safety in NCAAF. Quick name every 6'5-6'6 LB you can think of.... /crickets. I sincerely hope he is every bit the 5* that Scout says he is, but does anyone here really think he is a better prospect at LB than Booker, McMillan or Berger? Scout is a joke.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

furls wrote:Scout should just fold up and quit. I like Hubbard as much as the next guy, but 5*? Seriously? That is as egrigious as having Green as the #1 back in the country last year, possibly worse. No one even knows what position Hubbard will play, or if he will be good at it. He is a good athlete, but he is not such an elite athlete that it is obvious that he will be good anywhere on the field (like Clowney). Hubbard is a tweener. Way too big for safety, probably on the big side of LB, but too small (buildwise) for a DE.

There is a 0 percent chance that he is a safety in NCAAF. Quick name every 6'5-6'6 LB you can think of.... /crickets. I sincerely hope he is every bit the 5* that Scout says he is, but does anyone here really think he is a better prospect at LB than Booker, McMillan or Berger? Scout is a joke.

I think 5-star is a reach too, but they seem to have been influenced by his last 2 games in the final four...where I thought he exhibited some serious badassery as a linebacker. Really strong tackler and flies around. Why not a SAM...or even a Will with his speed?

As for Scout's relative cred in the ratings industry these days, I don't follow it closely enough nationally to have an informed opinion on it.

"I believe it is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting." H.L. Mencken

SAM is more likely than WILL, I am actually concerned about his speed once he gains the size to play the position. There just are not alot of guys that can be athletic enough to play that position at 6'5-6'6.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

furls wrote:Johnnie Dixon (WR) committing to OSU today as well. That is some good news. Dixon is a 5'11 185lb speedster type WR. Natural WR, runs good routes, quick and fast. Nice pickup and a guy you have to think will make an impact at OSU at some point.

Dixon is one of those higher 4* top 100ish players. Very nice, national level recruit the day after picking up the #1 MLB recruit in the country. According to 247 OSU now has the #1 OLB recruit (Booker) and the #1 ILB recruit (McMillan). Hopefully one of them can make an impact. They also have Berger in the 2014 class (who was injured all year). I love that guy, he is a straight up football player. I actually prefer him as an OLB over Booker. Sam Hubbard is an interesting LB prospect too. I have no idea what they will do with Hubbard who played for Moeller as a Safety this year at 6'6" 210ish lbs. OSU is projecting him to SAM.

Furls, no bigger pump here of all things Wildcat. While Kyle is a strong pass rusher, Booker is on another planet from Berger. Seen em both in person & Booker blew me away. Incredibly strong in a frame that will get a lot bigger and stout at POA. Crazy athletic. Berger is Jake Ryan. Booker is Shazier.

I get what you are saying, completely. I haven't had a chance to see much of Booker's senior season. What I saw last year was a great athlete playing linebacker. We have had a bunch of those lately (Sabino, Grant, Bell, etc.) and it hasn't really worked out that well. That said, you are not alone in your assessment of Booker. 247 has Booker ranked ahead of McMillan in 2014, and Booker did VERY well at "The Opening" where he really "opened" some eyes.

Booker ran a laser-timed (not attached to a shark's head) 4.53 forty and was EXTREMELY impressive in pass coverage in 7 on 7's covering WRs. How long has it been since we have had a LB that was impressive in coverage?

The reason I am so high on Berger is due to his low standard deviation. Obviously Booker is going to have the higher ceiling, but in watching Berger's junior film I see a guy that is more athletic than people think (though nowhere near as athletic as Booker) who is a natural football player that flows to the play and therefore plays alot faster than better athletes; similar to James Laurinitis. I am not saying that he is going to be JL, just that he reminds me of him in the way he reads and reacts.

I also think Berger has a very low "Bust Factor" and I would have killed an MF'er to have Jake Ryan on this team this year.

I thought Booker showed very good instincts in the game I saw. And what blew me away was his strength at POA for a rather thin kid.

Apparently Mike Farrell over at Rivals has tweeted he heard some "amazing if true" rumor, and word is it is about Tony Brown. Brown is expected to commit at the UA Game and if he ends up putting on an OSU hat, it will be Meyer's biggest coup to date by a large margin. Brown is probably the most athletic CB prospect in the country and is a unanimous 5*. Brown + Webb + Lattimore would be a RIDICULOUS pack of CBs to match last year's ridiculous haul (Apple, Conley and Burrows).

There are also some nice rumors coming out about Jermaine Roberts (Texas Commit) flipping to OSU. He is another CB/DB/KR/PR recruit. Not highly rated, but very impressive in highlights similar to James Clark last year.

Things still seem to be trending up for Buckeyes with 5* DE Solomon Thomas (not the one that picked a pass in the Sugar Bowl in 2010).

This could be a very explosive finish to the 2014 recruiting class, similar to 2012 and 2013.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

I didn't get a chance to watch the game today, but I heard that Erick Smith was very impressive and was probably OSU's best commitment out there. Knox was impressive also.

Target Solomon Thomas was another guy drawing big praise.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

The guy that burned Webb, Demare Kitt, is a VERY good WR prospect. I read that Webb was very impressive all week in practice.

Smith was playing out of position at CB in the game and did very well for a safety playing out of position. He may be one of the steals in this class. It is not often you get a safety that is good enough in coverage to look good against the nation's best WR recruits while playing CB!

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.