Haha no. Did you not read the rest of my earlier post? I like to assert my dominance anywhere I go. Especially with the experienced guys. It drives me. My ego drives me. Just that with beginners, I'll assert my dominance to let them know that I'm better than them so they can trust what help I give them.

again... asserting your dominance on renters? you sond like a world class jack ass... and the kind of person that would be run off the fields i play at... from what i am seeing here from you on the forums, its people like you that chase away new players, and make them not want to continue playing... if you cant turn off the tourny switch when playing with non tourny players and jsut have fun, then dont play with renters, you give the rest of us a bad name....

Oh, I read them. Here, I'll bring them up so we are all on the same page here.

Ill be the dominant one. Ill make them know it. I want them to know I'm better. When they know that after the first game or so, I'm super helpful and active, even lending the OTHER rentals my marker if I'm out and they ran out of air.

Hmmm, it says here that you will "be the dominant one". Considering we are talking about how we act around renters, by that context it would seem that you enjoy asserting your dominance on renters.

No, it's more that I know that I'm better.

If you know that you are better, why do you feel that you must state this outright? That is a telltale sign of an inferiority complex.

Ehh why not. Superiority Complexs are usually fake. I am not when I'm at the field. I am better than them. I'd assume it's the superiority complex that makes want to drive into their heads that I am.

I guess it is easier to just agree with someone instead of defending your postition. Hard to see how you assert your dominance when you cannot even defend your own opinion.

Well I wanted it to be at least a little related to the topic I was just hoping saying that would prevent me from hijacking the thread.

And this one. When I confront you about your attitude, you try to change the subject. Now that I won't drop it, you try to imply something in an earlier post to show that I was wrong the whole time, when in fact I am not. If you like to assert your dominance wherever you go, do it. Assert your dominance for me. It will amuse me.

I understand that your ego drives you, a number of people are driven to maintain a self-image that may or may not be accurate. So your goal is to show up with some elitist attitude in hopes that people will buy into that bullshit and trust you? I'm guessing this is where the Disruptive sales pitch comes in, am I wrong?

Haha no. Did you not read the rest of my earlier post? I like to assert my dominance anywhere I go. Especially with the experienced guys. It drives me. My ego drives me. Just that with beginners, I'll assert my dominance to let them know that I'm better than them so they can trust what help I give them.

Establish an image of a good player in their group
Establish that said good player is confident.
Express willingness to help.

It seems to have been working for me. The first game ill play, I'll tear it up. There, now they know I'm good. Then they normally ask me about something on my gear. I informatively tell them about it. In game, command them. It'd surprise you how many college players will just think you're just another rich kid. I'd feel bad if any player wanted advice on how to start paintball when I was nearby and I didn't imput my knowledgable advice. So in order for them to at least believe me or even consider it, I need to put myself in charge or a dominating role in their heads to establish a trust of a certain degree.

if you feel the need to "assert your dominance" ver then for them to take you and your advice seriously then you are going about it all wrong... if people are not taking your seriously without you "tearing it up" on the field, its most likely because you look like and come across as a douchebag both on an off the field...

i've been playing for over 10 years now... the people at the fields i attend that are sought out for advice are the ones that are team players... tehy are the players that will go out with renters and play hopper ball with a pump... or will hand off their gun to a renter for a game and use the rental gun... they are the players that show that playing the game is all about having fun and enjoying your time on the field... those that show up at trying to assert the dominance ont he field, then but in and help everyone there come across looking like jackasses... if you really are a good player, or want to be viewed as one, asserting yoru dominance is the wrong way to go about it... and again i will say, yo jsut make the rest of us look bad, those of us who do have skill, and who do actually help people, without having to shit on them to "assert our dominance"

Establish an image of a good player in their groupEstablish that said good player is confident.Express willingness to help.

It seems to have been working for me. The first game ill play, I'll tear it up. There, now they know I'm good. Then they normally ask me about something on my gear. I informatively tell them about it. In game, command them. It'd surprise you how many college players will just think you're just another rich kid. I'd feel bad if any player wanted advice on how to start paintball when I was nearby and I didn't imput my knowledgable advice. So in order for them to at least believe me or even consider it, I need to put myself in charge or a dominating role in their heads to establish a trust of a certain degree.

Oh, so you only try to appear to be a good player. That makes more sense. If you were actually one of the better players, with that attitude, I wouldn't be surprised that Disruptive is more obscure.

I guess we'll assume that buying Disruptive is helping. How is telling people to buy a certain product, that may or may not be dogshit, help somebody? All you do is push somebody to buy a product from a company you are somewhat affiliated with. What makes you different from a telemarketer?

Command them? You must be trolling me, or you are full of shit. Why the hell would you command renters? That's a good way to run them off the field, right into the pro shop so you can get them to buy some fucking Disruptive shit. I guess you would feel bad if you didn't hawk Disruptive at every person you see, you certainly do the same all over the forums.

Another thing, being good at the field requires actually being good. Walking around looking all "agg" and putting on a show just makes you an ass. And it makes us all look bad. Please, check yourself and shape the fuck up.

Do you not know anything about me whenever I go play? The reason I play with renters is not because I'm not good enough to go against the experienced group, it's because, mind you, that I bring people monthly from my school to go play paintball for their first time, or bring people out for their second time, and I feel that they need to be shown the ropes. And to top it all off, how many times have I tried to spread out the concept of musketballing against renters because I find it makes them feel safer? Look at this beauty that I use so very often on recball days:

Or I'll even use some sort of melee device such as a foam stick. I tear it up for the first game to as proof that the stuff I say when I play or advice I give isn't half assed information given by that guy who goes once or twice a year. I know what I'm doing. It's pretty hard to get people to believe you when you're a 5'5" dark Filipino kid, despite all the informative advice I'm giving.

To point something out. I feel that the fact that I recommend Disruptive is skewing your thoughts about the subject and angering you. Do you know how often recballers ask for what pants to get? or what Jersey to get? Near to never. Barrels? Everyone at Disruptive recommends them Disruptive barrels anyways, so it doesn't really matter. So lets throw this hole Disruptive thing out of the picture, and talk about the rentals. Do I ass around to them? No. I definitely take charge. But why shouldn't I? I agree command was a bad word for it, but why shouldn't they get advice of when to move up or where they are or where to shoot?

the fact that you feel you need to "tear it up" the first game speaks volumes... it says that you feel the need to put them in their place so they know you are better then them... who fucking cares if you are better then renters... if they want to ask for your help, they will, regardless of if you shit on them or not... they are more likely to ask for your help if you are humble....

Do you not know anything about me whenever I go play? No, and at this point I'd prefer not to. The reason I play with renters is not because I'm not good enough to go against the experienced group And now the truth comes out., it's because, mind you, that I bring people monthly from my school to go play paintball for their first time, or bring people out for their second time, and I feel that they need to be shown the ropes But, if you are not good enough to compete with the experienced players, how can you show people the ropes?. And to top it all off, how many times have I tried to spread out the concept of musketballing I don't know, once? Just now, maybe? against renters because I find it makes them feel safer? Look at this beauty Not much of a beauty. that I use so very often on recball days:

Or I'll even use some sort of melee device such as a foam stick. I tear it up for the first game to as proof that the stuff I say when I play or advice I give isn't half assed information given by that guy who goes once or twice a year "Buy disruptive everything" is still half assed advice. I know what I'm doingReally? I couldn't tell. It's pretty hard to get people to believe you when you're a 5'5" dark Filipino kid Whoa, no need for the race card in here., despite all the informative advice I'm giving.

Orange Chicken, after what I have heard you say over this thread, I have had enough of your bullshit and I lost all respect for you. I just sent an E-Mail to your beloved sponsor Disruptive about your unruly and self centered attitude. Would you like me to PM it to you? Or would you like for me to post it right here? Choice is yours.

I view renters as the future of our sport and I treat them well. The way I see it is, if you make their first paintball experience good, hopefully they will come back and bring others into the sport. In fact, last time I played there were 3, I'd say 10 year old's behind one bunker and so I decided I would not bunker them because I didn't want to hurt them in their first experience (Clearly it was their first time and I heard them say it was too). So, I ran way wide, shot 2 of the three kids and let the last one shoot me on purpose. The kid was sooooo excited and happy to get someone out.

Orange Chicken, after what I have heard you say over this thread, I have had enough of your bullshit and I lost all respect for you. I just sent an E-Mail to your beloved sponsor Disruptive about your unruly and self centered attitude. Would you like me to PM it to you? Or would you like for me to post it right here? Choice is yours.

PM it to me. It feels more special that way. And bullshit such as...? I play well the first game, then tone it down to the point that I use a foam stick for the rest of the day? Is that it? That's some fun bullshit I'll say, for me and the renters.

No, and at this point I'd prefer not to. The reason I play with renters is not because I'm not good enough to go against the experienced group

As much as I am tickled pink, I'd like to point this out. Reading skills are essential to internet arguments.

Alright, sure. You know what you did, and what you said, but if you feel the need to edit your own post and try to pass it off as a misunderstanding on my part, fine. You can chalk this up as a win, because I'm done.

Just sayin, but he didn't edit his post... You have it quoted on one of your replies.

Oh I've been done
There are things worth it in paintball honestly. An Axe, or a used Clone GT
There are things not worth it in paintball. This whole discussion, for example, or an Ego9 for 500.

This. This was a fun little exchange. Sorry you had to get mad I guess? Anywhoo, I still respect you Predator47, to some decent degree. But don't take this as apologetic, because it's really not, because if you try to reference this controversal post to try invalidating ANY legitimate advice I give, I'm going to call bullshit.