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It's quite a long time ago when I found this site. I don't know if u ever heard about Andrea Rossi or E-Cat or cold fusion, but since even Elon Musk said that he believes cold fusion is possible, it would be nice to see in Tesla future car model using E-Cat technology for generating some cheap heat for A/C. Or maybe it could be used as future alternative propulsion technology - you know, classic automakers have gasolin and diesel and rarely natural gas, which all are burned with CO2 and NOx in process, but cold fusion is clean source of heat (energy) and since Tesla is beting for this clean sources I believe they could use it once in the future.

I am aware that they are actually short on money for additional research and design, but I just had that idea so I want to have a little discussion on it. Do you believe this is possible?

I really really doubt that Elon had said cold fusion is possible. More like he had said that it is impossible.

It hurts me that there is yet another "high-ranked" scientist giving statements to the area where he has no expertise (Dr. Joseph Zawodny is no nuclear physicist), and then that scientist is used as authority to boost the credibility of the claim.

E-Cat is highly probably just a scam.

Jolinar | 24 Agosto 2012

It's pity that you are not trusting me... Nevermind, there is no better way how to change your mind than to show you the video with Elon Musk saying that. So please look at this video on Youtube. In 38 minute of video he start talking about 3 things which he think is possible in the future. First is supersonic electric jet plane, second (42:45 on video) is cold fusion (not same as E-Cat of course) and third (43:45 on video) is hyperloop. All 3 thing are futuristic stuff, but he claims that all 3 thing are possible in the future. Whole interview is very interesting so I recommend to watch it whole :-)
Well, I hope you are not doubting about me or Elon now. E-Cat is maybe just a scum... or maybe not... we will see in 2013 as Andrea Rossi claims to deliver first 10kW heating unit for home purpose.

Timo | 24 Agosto 2012

"They could make fusion working". No mention about cold fusion. He even defines that further by saying "magnetic containment fusion" and "relatively standard fusion".

Jolinar | 24 Agosto 2012

Well, you are probably right, I didn't realize he isn't meaning cold one. I can admit my mistake... but it is not changing my mind about cold fusion and I still hoping to see it in work one day :-)

Brian H | 24 Agosto 2012

Jolinar;
If you want a project to follow, check out LPPhysics.com instead. It uses a kind of tiny (ultra-hot) fusion-fission event to generate pulses. A 5MW generator is likely to fit in a shipping container. Compare to E-Cat's warehouse to generate 1 MW!

And the costs are projected to be 10-20X less than the best US systems now available. Within 4-5 yrs.

Volker.Berlin | 24 Agosto 2012

Within 4-5 yrs.

Has always been and will always be. :-P

David70 | 24 Agosto 2012

Yes VB, but regular fusion has always been within 10-20 years. So, this group has been more optimistic.

David70 | 24 Agosto 2012

Clarification: Controlled fusion.

Jolinar | 24 Agosto 2012

thx, for another tip :-)
well, regular fussion 10+ years, plasma fusion 4-5 years, Andrea Rossi's fusion for home purpose not even 1 year (for factory heating 3 months to deliver 1MW) - he is still the most optimistic one ;-)

Timo | 25 Agosto 2012

V.B, I wont agree with "will always be". LPP already reaches fusion. I think the hard part for them is that they not only try to reach fusion they try to reach aneutronic fusion. That is way harder thing to do. If they would settle with tritium-deuterium or deuterium-deuterium fusion it would be ready this year, but that would require a lot heavier shielding against radiation, and fuels for those are not as easy to obtain as hydrogen-boron.

No tokamak is even close to that. And for those I agree that "has always been and will always be" is quite true.

@ nwdriver93 Don't dismiss this right off the bat. If you read the article and the paper you can tell that this goes beyond your usual charlatan's gimmick; this is not cold fusion or any other physics defying act, it looks like an experimental method for generating heat (energy) in an extremely efficient way under controlled laboratory conditions. Let's wait and see. Also, maybe we should all do a little more research about all the parties supposedly involved on this experiment, see how legitimate this all is. For now I'll, personally, give this "breakthrough technology" the benefit of doubt.

Brian H | 24 Maggio 2013

You'd be wiser to give it a full blast of doubt than the benefit.

Jolinar | 26 Maggio 2013

@nwdiver93
it heas a "fuel" so it's not a perpetual motion machine

@Brian H
I totally understand your scepticism, Rossi is also entrepreneur, not only pure scientist.

@frmercado
Yea, I'm not going to make premature conclusions on Rossi's research of LENRs. The only thing we can do is wait and see. Next, long-term test should be in the summer.

Brian H | 26 Maggio 2013

A picture of Rossi's 1 MW plant showed a warehouse sized place full of racks of his rigs to the ceiling. Laughable.