Trump Just Moved From Mere “Mob Ties” To Becoming an Actual Crime Boss and Self-Dealing Thief

TRUMP’S BIGGEST LIE YET: Trump looked right into America’s eyes and claimed he would be a “big loser” if his tax bill passed. He said it was a “big Christmas present.” It is, to himself.

Just how petty, small-minded and crooked is our “president”? Trump just used the GOP tax bill to personally profit on a grand scale. This is a first in American history. We’ve hit the all-time Putin-like low. America, like Putin’s Russia, is now run by a crime syndicate ruling family. And no, this is not hyperbole.
Even the most accomplished charlatans sometimes show us who they really are. The gigantic profits the Trump Clan will reap from their tax bill exposes these thieves for what they are for all to see. Even Sarah Huckabee can’t lie her way out of this. Basic math is tough to spin.

Trump bankrupted business after business but always walked away by taking his Dad’s help or stiffing partners and banks. Now he’s done it to America.

Trump just added trillions to our debt- all so he and his con-artist family will save hundreds of millions in taxes over the next few years. Today it’s America’s turn to become the latest “casino” the Trump Clan just bankrupted. Congress’ official Joint Committee on Taxation says Trump’s tax bill adds $1 trillion or more to the deficit, while the Trump family personally benefits by hundreds of millions. If that’s not organized crime, what is?

Now we know why Trump still won’t release his tax returns. Legal experts say releases of tax returns – a tradition dating back to Richard Nixon – would allow we the public to calculate exactly how much our “president” is being personally enriched by his tax bill.

Americans thought the corruption, self-dealing and social sins of neglect of the Gilded Age were long behind us. But we underestimated the bold criminality of the Trump Clan, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell — all of whom will personally make big money off their “middle class” tax bill.

The Republican Ayn Rand-worshipers’ goal has long been to codify selfishness and lack of empathy and roll back the social advances that America has made over the last 100 years. On Wednesday the demolition crews of Trump’s House and Senate struck a devastating blow against compassion, Christian ethics and humanistic truths hard won over centuries. They quite literally attacked the very concept of civilization itself: that we are not alone but strive to indeed be our brother’s keeper. (Hint: it’s why when you call 911 someone shows up, why strangers stop to help a child fallen from a swing, why a few people like my Marine son volunteered to serve and why – most of us – stop when we see a school bus’s lights flashing.)

“The tax law loots the federal treasury on behalf of major corporations and the richest people in America. It sharply shifts the nation’s tax burden onto wage and salary earners whom Ryan and McConnell treat as serfs expected to bow before the wielders of capital” writes E.J. Dionne Jr.

This GOP lobbyists’ wish list passed with reckless haste – because, the GOP it didn’t want us mere citizens to know what they were doing. But the polls make clear that we citizens – including many Republicans – know exactly whom this bill will benefit most: the Trump Clan of mobsters and their billionaire pals that this bill bribes into enabling acquiescent- silence.

Having delivered our government to the Trump family and their privileged friends Trump, Ryan and McConnell will make sure that Washington does even less for the vast majority of Americans who are to pay for their heist. Ryan already glibly speaks of wanting to next “reform” Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.
Rarely has the word of “reform” been so degraded, invoked to undermine measures that make our country a bit more just, fair and kind.

Ayn Rand, the philosophical hero of Ryan’s youth, believed that the masses stymied the creative genius of the entrepreneurs and the business classes. Somewhere, the author of “The Virtue of Selfishness” is smiling as Trump personally is set to save hundreds of millions for his undeserving parasite children and his king-of-con groper sex-offender, self.

The radically reactionary character of what Trump Ryan and McConnell did to the rest of us has one big benefit: It brings clarity to our political situation.

If Democrats are smart all they will talk about until the 2018 election is blatant Trump Family and GOP Leadership personal enrichment and corruption. Again: Trump will personally save at least $15 million per year expert tax analysis finds and Jared Kushner will save at least $12 million per year, while five other members of Trump’s inner circle will also see benefits worth millions.

Those of us who would restore decency, compassion and fairness to American life must now chart a fearless course to achieve no less than the utter repudiation and destruction of the Number One Enemy of Ordinary Americans: The Republican Party and their Guru-of-Greed, Donald Trump.

To be honest this comes as no surprise . And the reality behind why Trump refuses to release his tax forms is because he’s worth less than a tenth of what he claims . So I’ll still say Trump’s biggest lie is his entire Make America Great Again rhetoric railing against the evils and damage being done by China to the US economy – jobs and workers

All while 99% of all Trump and Ivanka Trump’s products sold in the US … are being manufactured in ..

One of the many things Schaeffer is confused about is who money belongs to. Frank thinks that when someone makes a dollar, a portion of that dollar belongs to others. And those others are who Frank believes deserve it, or need it. The more someone makes, the more of it they must give to someone else. Frank believes in the old communist adage: “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” And, of course, Frank thinks he knows how to make those judgments.

And of course Brys**t the Troll thinking he is god thinks only he knows how to make judgments about everything

Which is to say Brys**t .. as always you’re out of your extremely limited depth and completely clueless as to what Frank may or may not know .. not to mention the entire spectrum of US economics , tax policies etc

As an example . Like I’ve told your little white trash posterior a thousand times you pathetic whining little troll … your entire life from the gas your father puts in his car – to the cloths on your back – to the food on your table … right on down to the utilities keeping your precious little screen alive are being subsidized by the American tax payer .. and specifically by those in MY income range . And if they were not ? You’d be starving – living on the streets – destitute with your eminent demise being your only realistic future .

In other words … Yes little boy … I PAY for your very existence

Yet you don’t see me complaining nor do I want for anything after those taxes have been paid . Fact is … I’m flush

As for those taxes … with Freedom … comes Responsibility … and part of that Responsibility as outlined by the US Constitution / Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence … is the paying of taxes in order to not only maintain that Freedom you claim to adore ( while demanding everyone behave as you wish ) ,, but to care for ones neighbors and fellow citizens making sure all have at least a livable and sustainable life

And thats just the governments side . Take a look at that Bible you pretend to read and you’d realize it is every Christians responsibility to make sure no one around them goes without a roof over their heads , clothing or food … and that no one in need is turned away .

But hey Brys**t .. despite all the good and needy people that will be hurt by this so called tax reform .. including with the bad such as your little white trash self …

… guaranteed … the wife and I will be enjoying that heaping plate of schadenfreude you’re about to pay for … beginning with the changes in the capitol gains tax .. that alone of which will place an additional healthy six figures into our bank account in one single year .

” If paying taxes is the responsible thing to do, shouldn’t you give your tax cut back to the government? I’m sure they would accept it ”

Could you possibly make yourself out to be any more stupid and clueless Brys**t ?

That being a rhetorical question .. all bets are .. you can … and … you will

But hey Brys**t . I have a better idea … hows about I finally get my monies worth supporting your miserable existence by forcing you into indentured servitude . All bets are Trump and the GOP would be fully on board with that concept . Fact is Brys**t .. that is their end game and their overall intent ..

” I knew you would never give the tax cut back. All your pretend generosity is just pretend. You want others to be charitable, but you don’t want to ”

Ahhh Step&FetchIt Brys**t there you are like clockwork making yourself out to be even more stupid and clueless than you already have … in less than 60 minutes !

But ahh …

I’m not charitable ehh ? Thats a laugh . All bets are I gave away more money this last year than both your parents combined make … all while paying my taxes .. well within the IRS and Federally mandated guidelines . Which is a helluva lot more than your Toddler in Chief can say

But hey … again .. thanks for playing … and paying .. boy .

PS; Damn … on 2nd thought .. as stupid as you are … having you as an indentured servant would prove to be more of a hindrance and a detriment than a benefit . So maybe I’ll just sell you off to the highest bidder … assuming anyone is foolish enough to buy you … boy . And if not .. well you do know what happened to slaves in the old south once they’d outlived their usefulness … don’t you .

Well… Good afternoon to you again Mr. Bryson. Please enjoy your updated and growing list of egregiously hateful and racially bigoted remarks:

“We have guns, and can arrange a civil war.”

“Most white Alabama voters voted for Roy Moore, and almost all darkie Alabama voters voted for Doug Jones. Without the negro vote, Jones would not have won. Once again, negores have proven to be a liability rather than an asset.”

“To all the women who voted for Jones: abortion will improve your life dramatically.”

“I should not wish anyone were dead. But, it is true that those who will never become Christians would be better off if they were dead, since the longer they live, the more sins they commit and the greater will be their eternal punishment. Now I didn’t invent that system, God did. So if you have a problem with it, you should complain to the God of the Bible.”

“You think abortion is murder? Your liberal friends won’t like that. But, you are right, abortion is the murder of an unborn child. That’s why it’s immoral and unconstitutional. But, it still has some benefits. Women who have abortions are wicked. If they had the child instead of killing it, they would raise it to be wicked, like they are. We have an oversupply of wicked people already. So it benefits society for wicked women to not reproduce.”

“I wouldn’t expect people involved in interracial sex to be a fan of Roy Moore.”

“Are you white? Unless you are, you can’t pollute the White Race by having sex with a negro.”

“Don’t be too sure your relationship with your boy is healthy, the two of you fornicate with each other.” (In reference to my Black partner)

“Abadie, If you weren’t a slut, getting knocked up wouldn’t be a possibility.” (Also in reference to my Black partner)

When I asked him: “Would you please explain why in your view I am a slut… As in what exactly do you believe I am doing with my partner that would classify me as such?” His reply was: “Because you have a black boyfriend. Black men won’t date white women who refuse to have sex with them.”

“By the way, you are the one who decided to be a slut. That decision was yours alone. If it bothers you that people notice, well, that goes with the territory.”
“Criminal factory”?? LOL! I love it!” (in reference to the racial slurs I’ve be a target of)

“But those “roughly 40 other Christian denominations” are NOT CHRISTIANS!!! Only fundamentalist Christians are real Christians.”

“Non-Christians WILL burn in Hell for eternity because that is what the Bible says.”

“I don’t have the power to condemn you. If I did, you would already be in Hell. But I know the kind of people God condemns, and you are one of them.”

“You can’t prove that torture is immoral.”

” I’m not wrong. Happily for me, all my sins have been atoned for. Not so for you.”

“I don’t decide who goes to Hell. God does. And God has already decided that is where YOU are going.”

“If Francis and Edith Schaeffer approve of what Frank is doing, then they are not in Heaven.”

“Every Democrat in America violates many New Testament principles. Yet, you prefer one of them be President instead of Trump. I don’t. Liberals are bad for America.”

“Uniting people is only impossible when one or both sides are unwilling to compromise”. That’s my point. I’m not willing to compromise.”

“There are lots of bad people out there. But you and Frank want to import more of them.”

“If you and Frank didn’t want to import bad people, you would support increased vetting.”

~Gary Bryson

Note: Plagiarism will not be tolerated. As such, none of the above “intellectual property” may be used without duly crediting the author.

…. and if there were any doubts when it comes to the realities and intentions of the troll child posting under the moniker Gary Bryson … this comment ( in conjunction with Ms Abadie’s comment ) removes all doubts

Oh… Geee… Gory! That is so sweet of you to express your appreciation for my efforts. On that note, any other threat, insult, and/or demeaning racial slur you may want to share? You have been noticeable unproductive in that department and have even toned down your misogynistic rhetoric these pasts three days.

That is is Stacey. It’s also a reflection of everything that is in stark contradiction to what Christianity is supposed to be about. That being, at least to my understanding the following which I have posted in previous threads:

“Christianity was always within the context of God loving us first and putting His Spirit in us so that we can love like God does, and this type of love is outward flowing, extending ever outward, toward others, and is never self-directed. Love doesn’t point inward but is directed toward others, so any love we have today is from God because God is love, and we must love others like God loves us. If a person is a Christ-follower, they will begin to think less of themselves and more about others, so when a crisis hits, believers are already in a frame of mind to reach out and help. They need no motivation because they already have a desire to visit the sick, the imprisoned, strangers, feed the hungry, clothe the naked, and give drinks to the thirsty, because they see that doing these things for others (Matt 5:34-39) is the same as doing it for Christ (Matt 25:40).”

The major problem with these so-called Fundamentalist Christians is the hypocrisy of thinking that as long as they believe in the bible, they can do whatever evil they want including rape, torture, and murder, being that according to them, their “belief” in the bible (as opposed to their actions) is what atones whatever sins they may commit. Which is why, for example, so many Fundamentalist Christian pastors are rapists and pedophiles. As in, they feel that their belief in the bible gives them carte blanche to sin, hate, and wish eternal torture unto others with total and absolute impunity.

Gary Bryson is typical of the sort of bigoted, racist and, fundamentalist Christian ISIS adherents that have been galvanized by this president. It’s a fringe ideology, but dangerous, because it is totally anti-democratic, and contradicts the values and rights granted us by the Constitution

Gary, but your words and comments speak for themselves as Ms. Abadie so brilliantly condensed them in her previous post for the world to see. If it talks like a snake and slithers like a snake, then it’s probably a snake.

That he is Dolores. Not only that, but he is such a hypocrite that he even goes as far as contradicting what the bible says, as for example when he states: “The New Testament does not require, or even support, open borders, DACA, or any part of the liberal agenda.” Which by the way it totally and absolutely NOT true!

In fact, within the New Testament, which Christians read in continuity with the Hebrew Bible or “The Old Testament,” the most often cited passage dealing with welcoming the stranger is from Matthew 25: 31-40. “I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me.”

As Matthew 25 makes clear, Christians should see everyone as “Christ” in the flesh. Indeed, scholars argue that in the New Testament, “stranger” and “neighbor” are in fact synonymous. Thus the Golden Rule, “love your neighbor as yourself,” refers not just to people whom you know – your “neighbors” in a conventional sense – but also to people whom you do not know.

Beyond this, in the letters written by Paul of Tarsus (one of the most notable of early Christian missionaries), often known as the Pauline “Epistles,” it is made clear that in Christ… “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave[g] nor free, there is no male and female.” From this perspective, being “one in Christ” should be taken literally as acknowledging no fundamental differences in kind among human beings.

Of course, when I have confronted Mr. Bryson with all of the above, he repeatedly resorts to ignoring what the bible says, and instead lashes out claiming that because I am not a “true” Fundamentalist Christian, I don’t know anything about Christianity. Which is preposterous, given that as far as I know, anyone, regardless of religious affiliation, is allowed to read the bible.

abadie, So, according to your reading of the Bible, Jesus Christ opposed nations and borders and laws limiting where anyone could live? Then you must think Christ is opposed to the very idea of the US as a country. Or Canada, Mexico, England, France, China, or any other country that has borders and that has laws defining who is a citizen. Do you agree with what you think the Bible teaches about that? Would you like it if nations were abolished? If nations were abolished, wouldn’t governments have to go too?

Mr. Bryson… The bible is clear about the principles regarding welcoming the stranger are broad-reaching and unambiguous. As in the Bible affirms – strongly and unequivocally – the obligation to treat strangers with dignity and hospitality. So in that regard, I would have to say that yes Jesus Christ would have opposed nations and borders and laws limiting where anyone could live.

OK. Then if nations are illegitimate, so are their governments and laws, including constitutions. So are taxes, courts, police, militaries, public education, welfare, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, civil rights, state governments, government regulations, Congress, and everything any federal or state government does or says. It would also mean that Jesus is opposed to your insistence that church and state be separate, because the state shouldn’t exist. That’s an interesting perspective. I’m sure there are those who agree with you.

Thing is Gory… If we treated everybody with dignity and hospitality within the context of God loving us first and putting His Spirit in us so that we can love like God does, and this type of love is outward flowing, extending ever outward, toward others, and is never self-directed, and thus be vested in the wholesome goodness of public education, welfare, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and civil rights, we would essentially have an utopia where there would be no need for the police, the military, nor any form of government to mandate laws.

abadie, In other words, if we treated everyone with dignity and hospitality, then the government, and all its programs, would be legitimate, even though you believe Jesus is opposed to nations and governments? How can that be right? If nations with borders and citizens are illegitimate to start with, how could they become legitimate by anything they do?

To reiterate… If we treated everyone with dignity and hospitality, programs such as public education, welfare, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and civil rights, would be Universal… Making borders irrelevant for all intent and purpose.

abadie, You might certainly wish for all those things to be universal, but they couldn’t happen without governments, or a government. And a government can’t happen without a nation with borders. Unless you are advocating a world-wide government. Is a one world government what you want?

Mr. Bryson’s peeve with what Frank has to say about tax dollars is nothing more than his vehement contempt that his hard earned cash may go to subsidize Blacks on Welfare, SNAP benefits, and Medicaid, when in fact is mostly poor white folks who are actually being subsidized by these things…

…. and uhh … lets not forget about this GOP congress eliminating the CHIP ( children’s health insurance program ) … which errr

.. not only pays for the health care of children … but also for the care and maintenance of the pregnant mother during the pregnancy as well … of which .. them thar po’ white folks is the major recipient of .

Nope . Not me . Though I may have to take legal action against the individual posting under the moniker .. Mzuri 😎

Oh … but wait … I did hand over all rights to the public domain in order that anyone may make use of it … so .. never mind ( sorry but I couldn’t resist parroting your warning in a moment of jocularity in the midsts of such serious conversation )

But yes Ms Abadie I am the fully credited creator and originator of the term first used in a NYTimes article I wrote under a nom de plume .

Well folks … the world just told Donald Trump and the US where he and we can go complete with 128 directions how to get there ( the UN resolution over Trump’s idiotic and irresponsible decision to acknowledge Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel )

Although Trumps clan is the epitome of a criminal corporate entity writing and signing into law tax code that benefit them and their network of family and friends it has been going on for a very long time in the U.S. Those large corporations don’t bestow billions in campaign funds out of the goodness of their hearts. It is indicative of the stupidity of the average Joe U.S. citizen that he is being allowed to skate by without providing his financial documents so that they may be scrutinized. There is no United States of America. Princeton University said it. The U.S. is an oligarchy. Sadly, this has been the case since at least Daddy Bush held the highest office. Jimmy Carter said it a few years ago. The United States is not a real democracy and hasn’t been for a while. Again, keep up the good work, Mr. Schaffer.

I do not think there are easy solutions. Maybe the US has to crumble. I don’t see any place for it to go but up from here but there is a long way down still to go if this keeps up. It’s a corporation chartered by the banks in London. I think there will have to be a global currency reset at some point and all the mindless Trumpets who are not millionaires are likely to get hurt very badly.

I see Frank has wished for God to damn Trump in one of his tweets. But wait, Frank doesn’t believe in Hell, so Frank doesn’t believe God damns anyone! Maybe Frank is just venting and that’s all he could think of to say.

Well hell Brys**t … neither do you .. believe in God that is . A god created in your own deranged little troll child image perhaps . But the God of the Bible ? Hell Brys**t … you don’t even know who He is …. never mind believe in him

We are less than three days away from Christmas (the supposed day when Jesus was born) and all Mr. Bryson can think and wish for … is for people to endure the horrifically torturous agonies of burning in hell for all eternity! SAD!!!

I am not critical of Jesus, whose last words on the cross were: Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.”

I am critical of those, such as yourself, who take sadistic pleasure in telling others that they are going to hell, going as far as expressing their satisfaction in knowing that they will — and then say that they don’t have the power to send people to hell, as if that somehow makes them righteous and good people.

On that note, here is an excerpt from an article that you should read:

“We can readily see the arrogant and callous self-righteousness that a belief in hell engenders. The “saved” proudly assert that they are going to heaven, with nary a care that everyone else will suffer for eternity. They might even glory in the damnation of others. Come on. Can that kind of attitude, with its smugness and indifference to (or even glee in) the pain of others, possibly have a place in heaven and be pleasing to God? I think belief in a God who sends people to hell, no matter how cloaked in theological sweetness, creates cruel people. And it’s been the justification for terrible atrocities throughout history.”

abadie, Jesus said quite a lot about Hell, as recorded in the NT. He invented it and decided it would be the repository of unbelievers. Yet, you don’t want to put any blame on him. You are in denial of reality. You believe only what makes you feel good and deny that what bothers you exists.

I deny that which is preposterously ridiculous. Such as the earth is flat and only about 6,000 years old and the such. For the record, god nor Jesus wrote the NT. In fact, the earliest versions of the NT weren’t even written till at least 50 years after Jesus died, at a time when people had absolutely no scientific knowledge whatsoever, and instead, believing their imaginations to be “divinely inspired” came up with what they thought to be a rational explanation of all they perceived to be “supernatural.”

abadie, You’re one who likes to live in their own little pretend world. A world where YOU make the rules and decide what is real and what is not. Boy, are you in for a big surprise when reality is finally forced upon you!

Thing is Gory, to spare yourself from going to hell, not only must you believe in the bible, but you must also do as it commands you to do. As in, if you go against that which the bible commands, and unless you sincerely repent of your sins of hating others (such as women, Blacks and homosexuals) to the point of even wishing and hoping for their eternal torment (which is strictly prohibited in the KJV bible)… You too will be going to hell. So for your sake, I sure hope that I am right and that you are wrong.

Bible verses related to Hate from the King James Version (KJV) by Relevance.

1 John 4:20 – If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

1 John 3:15 – Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

Proverbs 6:16-19 – These six [things] doth the LORD hate: yea, seven [are] an abomination unto him: 16 These six [things] doth the LORD hate: yea, seven [are] an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood. A heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief. A false witness [that] speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Oh… but you do hate Gory. You have even said so yourself. You hate TJ Martin, you hate Blacks for voting against Roy Moore, you hate homosexuals to the point of saying that they should be executed, and you also passionately hate me to the point that you take great comfort in envisioning my eternal torment, and you have even gone as far as threatening to arrange a civil war.

Sorry, but if you actually read your bible, you would know that a true Christian is NOT allowed to hate other human beings be they believers or otherwise. In fact, God requires them to love others, even their enemies, and those who mistreat them. Jesus is the ultimate model to follow, and in his last moments, as he hung beaten and tortured, he forgave those who were responsible.

And while you can sit there making yourself out to be a “loving” Christian. God knows that what is truly in your heart is nothing more than unadulterated arrogance and anger towards all those who don’t believe as you do. Sorry, but to take comfort and rejoice over the prospect of eternal torture for all those whom you dislike is anything but love. Quite the contrary! It is the very essence and the hallmark of sadism.

Heaven and hell are more about enforcing moral retribution upon everyone, and not about loving consolation for everyone. I said earlier that religion personally is largely about private wish-fulfillment. But at the social level, religion is mostly about imposing a public moral system. And not just any moral system – religions with heavens and hells have moral systems about obedience, vengeance, and retribution. With heaven and hell, private wish-fulfillment nicely pairs up with public moral-expectation. God delivers love to us because we feel deserving of that love. God delivers vengeful retribution upon others because we wish we could do it to them ourselves.

When believers say, “My God is all about Love!” what they are actually saying is that God really loves them and doesn’t love others. These are the kind of people who can’t feel truly loved unless someone else doesn’t get that love. Such a childishly selfish attitude, barely tolerable from the three year-old pushing the older sibling away from the parental lap, is entirely despicable from adults. Yet religious societies take this to the public level, effectively frightening members into obedience, and warning outsiders not in that good company that they will suffer for it. Join our religion, the message rings out, or else you’ll get hell for it!

Preachers and theologians from all kinds of religions are eager for everyone to know all about hell. Their warnings help fill libraries all around the world. Just one sample may be enough, from Puritan Jonathan Edwards (d.1758). Notice how his sermon has to describe, in literally agonizing detail, not just what hell is like for those in it, but how hell looks to those in heaven:

That God will execute the fierceness of his anger, implies that he will inflict wrath without any pity: when God beholds the ineffable extremity of your case, and sees your torment to be so vastly disproportioned to your strength, and sees how your poor soul is crushed and sinks down, as it were into an infinite gloom, he will have no compassion upon you, he will not forbear the executions of his wrath, or in the least lighten his hand; there shall be no moderation or mercy, nor will God then at all stay his rough wind; he will have no regard to your welfare, nor be at all careful lest you should suffer too much, in any other sense than only that you shall not suffer beyond what strict justice requires: nothing shall be withheld, because it’s so hard for you to bear.… [Y]ou shall be tormented in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb; and when you shall be in this state of suffering, the glorious inhabitants of heaven shall go forth and look on the awful spectacle, that they may see what the wrath and fierceness of the Almighty is, and when they have seen it, they will fall down and adore that great power and majesty. ( Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God, 1739 )

Wow, what a thing to hear from a sermon. Heaven would be incomplete unless you can watch people suffering in hell. Heaven truly is the happiest place, praise God! As sickening as all this is, it only expresses what religion tacitly thinks, how heaven for you requires hell for someone else. And that’s no coincidence since the larger point of such a “loving” religion is to not love everyone. Such a religion is trying to enforce a crude morality in which you can’t be rewarded for being really good unless others are punished for being really bad.
~Center for Inquiry

All of which, I reiterate … is NOT what the bible says about how you should feel about those who don’t “believe” as you do…

Nine,
I know right and it’s been pointed out that if anything happens in politics you can bet that it was planned. This plan looks like burlesque theater in all its glory. Rome fell in part due to it watering its currency. What we are seeing makes me think that my beloved America is trying desperately to hit a bottom so that it may rise from its own ashes. She’s been eating herself like a cancer since that Star/Clinton debacle. My fervent hope is that an administration could come into being wherein full disclosures are made RE the Kennedys, UFO’s, and dare I hope 911. I won’t give up hope. I wonder, though, if I’ll live to see it. It would be a glorious day if She would use her might to usher in world peace with free energy. I’d like to see an America that protects rather than rapes our planet. I’d like to see our soldiers retrained and building affordable and viable public transportation. I wonder. It makes me wonder. It makes me wonder if we still have it in us to bring these things into being.
A girl can dream.
Tara

I hear you Tara. Sometimes all we can do is dream, as did Martin Luther King Jr. whose iconic speech I find myself reading over and over to remind myself that although there is still so much more that needs to get done, and while everything looks so bleak these days; things have improved since he made that historical speech…https://www.archives.gov/files/press/exhibits/dream-speech.pdf

Right on, Margarita. I think it is important for us educated (either formally or by experience) females to stay positive. Our thought energy is more powerful than we sometimes credit it with. I’ve noticed that these forums are largely populated by males. I’m honored when I run into women who are brave enough to lend their voices to these discussions.

What else are we to do if we are to survive. Even if we are deluding ourselves, remaining positive IS preferable than succumbing to negativity, in that it serves to make the tough going more bearable while being of a negative mindset only serves to lead us to despair, and make life unbearable.

Nine,
Are you on troll patrol or what? It’s especially hard on us women if there are trolls about the place. I think you should fire their asses up and rid them from our presence immediately if not sooner.
Yours Sincerely,
Tara

Yes, Of course. Stacey. We must band together in order to keep order and provide space for courteous discourse. Sometimes it seems that the men get tempted into arguing with the trolls easier than we do. That’s not to say that I’m unwilling to take them on.

Agreed! As women and mothers, we have perhaps the most important role to fulfill in these contemporary times, in which we are finally gaining the power of our voices, to bring about peace. On that note, if you are not already registered, why not join the upcoming Women’s March 2018.

Should you be wondering what it is like, below is a link to a video where you can see me with my long strawberry blonde hair, in my long dark gray coat, and my pink scarf around my neck waving at the crowds at the very far right back corner of the band holding the “perimeter rope” right behind the far right horn in this video, at the 2017 Women’s March, clearly having the time of my life, just like everyone else was.

Ahhh … if experience and history is any indication …. first off it’ll put the likes of you back under the rock from whence you came .. with your bromance fantasies Trump . Bannon , Pence and Moore soon to follow ..

Did you not watch the video and see how many real men came out to support us? The whole point of a march is to get the word out and people involved. And by the looks of it, we did phenomenally well, in terms of the sheer numbers of people that turned out. With conservative estimates being that of 4.5 million attendees.

In fact, the 2017 Women’s March was likely the largest single-day demonstration in recorded U.S. history. The only potential competitors were the Vietnam War Moratorium days in 1969 and 1970, which boasted millions of participants worldwide.

Observers should take these marches seriously, too. Transnational solidarity often gives a movement more leverage than a purely domestic movement might otherwise have. Moreover, it can be powerful and emboldening when activism is witnessed by others at home and abroad. Plus, Very large movements are more likely to translate their goals into real political, social and political change, particularly as they expand their networks into leverage.

In sharp contrast, the lilliputian movement of the pitiful 250 idiots that turned up for the tiki torch rally at Charlottesville that ended in violence and tragedy, only served to draw attention to the deranged mindset of these White Supremacists, and make everyone aware that they are a dangerous cult of pathetic savages that need to be curved so that they don’t gain any power whatsoever by which to carry out their violent and nefarious warmongering agenda!

Why does it matter too you Brys**t ? Like I said ,,, you’re no Christian … not even close . A member of some deranged little cult pretending to be a christian perhaps .. but definitely anything but … a Christian

Mr Bryson, yes, from age 14 to 42, I self-identified as as a born-again, evangelical Christian. The last 17 years, not so much. Bible believing? Yes and no. The bible contains much wisdom “love your enemies; love and take care of the outcasts (parable of the Good Samaritan); which of you can add one hour to his life by worrying?”. But believe that God sacrificed his first born son? That is pagan Mr Bryson…

Mr. Norris, How can you trust that the Bible is true when it says love your enemies, but not true when it says Jesus Christ died to pay for the sins of those who believe on him? It seems to me, you are just agreeing with the Bible when it says what YOU like, and not believing it when it says what you don’t like.

Mr Bryson, you are correct, I pick and choose. The glorious liberty of the children of God! As an ex-fundamentalist I know you’re supposed to believe the whole thing; I don’t anymore.

Reading the Conversations With God trilogy changed my mind. Moloch required appeasement via child sacrifice, as did Jehovah later with Jesus. I reject the whole notion of forgiveness of sins via the shedding of blood. Barbaric and pagan.

This whole doctrine of hell is not only barbaric and pagan but it’s also exceptionally damaging. Especially for young children, whose brains are then hardwired by fear, and then have to deal with what is known as Religious Trauma Syndrome.

Gory… By continuously repeating “You are going to hell” and telling everybody that they should be “very” frightened of it… What you are doing is engaging in Religious Terrorism, not much different from that of the Fundamentalist Muslims you so hate.

But whatever… Sure hope for your sake that you are not circumcised and/or never get testicular cancer, a blemish of any kind, or any sort of deformity/disability in your old age — because if you are/do, the bible says you are not worthy to attend church and so desecrate “his” sanctuary. Leviticus 21:18-21 – (KJV)

It sure is a great combo, especially when you spot a pip in one of the eggs while you are listening to heavenly music. Kind of helps to counteract the depressive presidency we are dealing with, and instead get you into the holiday spirit, by looking forward to a bobblehead on X-mas day!

Hi Margarita,
I marched for abortion rights. I’m probably not going to do another one but thank you for thinking of me. It was so funny because my mom made a sign that said “Right to Live & Freedom to Choose” Everyone was looking at her funny. We had a good time but after it seems that those rights diminished. It would be great if we didn’t even have to use phrases like “women’s rights” I hope that men like Mr. Schaeffer and many others I’ve met can usher in a state of being where we don’t have to have a defensive stance.
T

‘If Democrats are smart all they will talk about until the 2018 election is blatant Trump Family and GOP Leadership personal enrichment and corruption.’

As if Trump family malfeasance and its associated bourgeoisie faction can be fashioned into the political scapegoat that carries away all the sins committed against the working class!

‘ Those of us who would restore decency, compassion and fairness to American life must now chart a fearless course to achieve no less than the utter repudiation and destruction of the Number One Enemy of Ordinary Americans: The Republican Party and their Guru-of-Greed, Donald Trump.’

As if the US was ever a worker’s democracy!

Were Democrats smart, they’d launch a permanent campaign explaining the demand for expropriating the billions drug companies made from the drug epidemic. It would call for applying the personal wealth of the corporate and financial aristocracy to fund the immediate emergency construction of a network of hospitals and health clinics, staffed with well-trained doctors, to provide permanent, free medical care to all those affected.

Were Democrats smart, they would demand expropriation of monies diverted from public education to charter and private schools rather than stripping public education of funding. It would convert the energy industry into public utilities and end the need to subsidize industry profits. Rather than lowering corporate taxes from 35% to 21%, it would demand that profits over $5 billion be subjected to a 90% tax, and a 100% flight tax, should corporations attempt to flee the country with these public assets. These actions would be repeated in sector after sector.

Such policies hold no interest to the petty bourgeoisie/Democrat Party and run counter to those class interests. Ignoring the rise of infant mortality at one end of life, and declining working class life expectancy on the other, Democrats will instead focus on ‘fake news’ and the political censorship of it, Russian interference, and sexual misconduct.

The way forward is the utter repudiation of both the GOP/Bourgeoisie AND Democrat/Petty Bourgeoisie layers of the ruling class! Neither party has any basis upon which to claim the dutiful allegiance of the people in the name of the state.

Thus speaketh the resident self righteous pseudo intellectual communist cloaking him/herself in the deception of liberation theology propagating extreme division and discord division when it is unity that is needed the most

When for example I misspoke on the matter of Mr. Moore and the Statute of Limitations, you pointed out that in sexual offense cases, the State of Alabama had no statute of limitations. You made the point that had I researched my subject as I ought to have, I would have known that.

So I did.

Then I offered a full and free confession of wrongdoing. I asked forgiveness for my misleading statements. And I thanked you for pointing out my error.

When they screw up, that’s what Christians do.

And incidently, that’s what people do when they have a valid point to make.

Someday when you grow up acting more your age than your shoe size perhaps then you’ll see the error of your ways gdd . Till then though have yourself a happy Norse/Germanic derived pagan Advent to be concluded by a Roman paganism derived holiday in the name of Christianity ( complete with a host of Norse / Germanic pagan symbolism ) to be followed by a New Years Hell of your own making

‘…propagating extreme division and discord division when it is unity that is needed the most’

The petty bourgeoisie [Democrat] faction’s greatest fear is the emergence of genuine, working class unity on the international level. This is coming. And the petty bourgeoisie opportunists are ready to circle wagons with the bourgeoisie [Republican] faction of the ruling class against the US working class.

Can you offer us any compelling reasons NOT to believe that before such working class unity, you, Mr. TJ Martin, would be among the first to call for the military to turn guns on the US working class?

” That’s okay. I think the opposite is the problem: that there are so many people who call themselves Christians. I find it refreshing that there are people who aren’t Christians. It’s the Christians who disturb me. I find Christian fundamentalists every bit as intolerant and vicious and hypocritical as our purported enemy, Islamic fundamentalists. Those people are now represented by the leadership of this country. It’s a terrifying thing, the clash of two fundamentalist branches of these great visionary systems and religions. Islam, of course, sees itself as a step beyond Christianity and incorporates Christ into a larger family of holy beings we can turn to. Islam is very interesting in that respect. It doesn’t take it to the final step. Islam doesn’t believe in the sacrifice and death of Christ. I think that’s nonsense. But Christ is there as a figure in Islam ”

All the women in my family are fighting over women’s rights as in can a woman lead the Church?

Our Church that I love so dearly voted to let them lead as I applaud them so and they shall lead the Evangelicals out of this mess we find ourselves in as most American men are air wasters for sure.

I say yes as I am unqualified by to much violence from my past. Most American men are worthless as I observed from the men in my family.

Its those God dammed liberals you see as the wars must continue

Its those God dammed liberals as health care is only for those who can afford to pay and dam the rest

Its those God dammed liberals who say the rich should share more with the poor

Its those God dammed liberals who say any minimum wage is to low

My youngest daughter looking for a good man to provide a home for children free from stress and a positive environment and finds the men she has met sorely lacking as I have taught her well not to settle for an asshole….as it were…

I am afraid America is a land ruled by the sword unfortunately.

Only the women can change this as surely they must lead for now as balance says men and women lead together but America has drifted far from that model and yet I am so hopeful for the future.

Nine, I live down here in the deep south and it is very hard to find a good man. There are some, but they are few and far between. The majority, I hate to say, are nothing but red-neck, jacked-up truck driving assholes. I’m just a no-good trashy liberal woman to them. Even though I’m basically a moderate, I’m still a nasty liberal in their eyes.

Ha-Ha, Margarita I went on a date with one a few yrs. back. I was to meet him at his place out in the boonies next to a swamp(sounds scary I know). We were going to have a mexican dinner and he wanted me to try some of his home-made awesome sauce(salsa). He called before I came out and these were his exact words “Babe, would you run by the store before you come out and grab me some south of the border chips and a six pack. And oh by the way, would you wear your sexy sandals(it was 30 degree weather outside).” I told him hell no! Go get your own damn chips and beer. When I got to his house, he berated me on my “nasty attitude” and “unlady-like”behavior”. He also told me I needed my mouth washed out with soap. After we ate, he said “You know babe, you and me, well we ain’t got nothin’ in common & I suggest you go ahead and leave.” Then he said “don’t let the door hit your butt on the way out!” I turned around and screamed, “I’ll be back home before the damn door even shuts a**hole!” I lived 20 miles away mind you. Yes there are so many of these kinds of men where I live. They all bow down to Trump and they are scary.

Nothing is more utterly terrifying to an over-masculinized human being or soul than a strong, confident, powerful, often sensually expressive (as opposed to “sexually” expressive) feminine energy or feminine essence. Strong feminine energy terrifies the hell out of these unbalanced males. To quote a dancer colleague of mine:

q. What is sensuality?
a. Sensuality is your enjoyment of the world and your own physicality as perceived by your own senses. It is being in the moment. When you are being sensual, you don’t eat a piece of chocolate because you are hungry, you eat it because it tastes good and you enjoy it. You don’t look at an object to analyze it and/or to criticize it, you look at it just to enjoy it. Similarly, when you are touching something, it’s just to enjoy its texture. Sensuality is just a way of perceiving and enjoying things.

And nothing terrifies these males more than a sensual woman. Mostly, because it totally underscores their perceived male birth-right superiority over women. I mean… God forbid if we show them that we don’t need a “man” to feel good about ourselves. And we sure as hell don’t need their “permission” to do for ourselves that which they are simply too dumb and too lazy to even do for themselves.

As for the sandals… Not sure that it was about having a foot fetish, as much as it’s about wanting you to prove that you are willing to sacrifice your own comfort, and even endure the freezing cold to be with him. No doubt a sick and twisted dude, with an overinflated ego and sense of self.

What do we do with those who can not think clearly like our dear veterans with massive PTSD?

Should our dear institutions be forced to hire and then care for them?

Will, it would be better to give them a suicide pill than the care we give them that’s for God dammed sure….

My two dear brothers in law that I so do love were arguing about Trump and his tax cut as one said but the ‘publicans say that it will greatly enrich the middle class and the Democrats say it only cuts them for the rich…

and the middle will get screwed and the poor worse than screwed as things always seem to turn out…

OMG!!! Hilarious! Wonder if it came wrapped in pretty paper and a bow? One of my best friends used to play pranks like that in college to people he didn’t like. He boxed up dog poop one time, wrapped it in beautiful wrapping paper and bow and sent it to a guy down the hall in his dorm room who used to make nasty, homophobic remarks to my friend who is not gay. Yeah, I’m also very happy about the Scrooge Bill, which should also be called The Screwed Bill for all the middle and lower class Trump supporters who don’t realize yet just how screwed they’re gonna get! Thanks to Trump & Co……aka The GOP Thugs for that Christmas present. And Merry Christmas to all the suckers who voted for him! Be careful who and what you vote for, you will get your beautifully wrapped package full of poop!

They are twisted. This is the great falling away I think was mentioned in the bible. I don’t know what your religious views are TJ, but I still believe in a devil or an evil force that exists to destroy and what better place to hide than to cloak yourself in religion. They call good evil and evil they call good. They claim to be warriors and defenders of Christ yet they are the opposite of everything he represents. One of these days.l…… one of these days, they are going to crap in their pants when they get told “And I knew you not.”

Very true… But hey! This whole thing about Drumph saving our very “Merry Christmas” is such a crock of BS. Especially when President Drumph actually wished everybody “Happy Holidays” back in 2010.

The only problem with that is that I doubt that any of these brainwashed Drumphpanzee will even as much as watch MSNBC, or read Newsweek … as God forbid they would have to face the fact that Obama (contrary to what Drumph claims) has been saying Merry Christmas for years.

He knew just what kind of Christianese his base wanted to hear and adjusted his vocabulary accordingly being the of con man that he is. And they ate it up ’cause they think he is one of them now which is just what he wanted them to think.

WOW!!!!! Thanks so much Nine for posting about the film. On that note, it took me a bit of searching, but I was able to find a link that shows the film in its entirety. And what an eye-opener film it is! Not that I didn’t know about the role of the media in brainwashing folks. But never in such relevant detail. Indeed a must watch film!https://view.yahoo.com/movie/60798523/the-brainwashing-of-my-dad