Beamer wrote on Nov 2, 2011, 07:39:It isn't monitoring, it's looking at directories. From what I understand it is not opening anything.

Still not right, but it's basically doing what 90% of Google's programs do. Remember Google Desktop? Does Google even still make that? Now that was a program that looked at everything you did in detail...

Well considering Google Desktop was a search program it sort of has to touch all files on your computer to, well, search.

Origin has no fucking business touching anything outside its own directory and system files.

Like I said, still wrong. But you know what Google was doing with everything it searched, right?

Do you really know what anyone is doing with anything they collect from you?

Beamer wrote on Nov 2, 2011, 07:39:It isn't monitoring, it's looking at directories. From what I understand it is not opening anything.

Still not right, but it's basically doing what 90% of Google's programs do. Remember Google Desktop? Does Google even still make that? Now that was a program that looked at everything you did in detail...

Well considering Google Desktop was a search program it sort of has to touch all files on your computer to, well, search.

Origin has no fucking business touching anything outside its own directory and system files.

necrosis wrote on Oct 19, 2011, 08:46:I heard the DLC was released. Went to DX:HR's DLC page and could not find it. Dug around for a link and finally found one.

Why the fuck is it a separate entry on the steam list?

That is dumb, but I believe it might have to do with the fact that the dlc itself has achievements. Correct me if i'm wrong but with most other games that get dlc, their achievements get pushed up to the base game. For some reason they didn't do that with this dlc. I think they need to revamp their dlc/achievement system.

I mostly hate it because it would be nice if it was dropped into the main game. Like if you had the DLC and started at the beginning and go to the "I'm going off the grid." part it dumped you in the DLC. Once done the DLC you continued on with the original game.

I can see the benefits of it being separate but... sorry its just stupid.

Yes how dare people make decisions based on actual play experience, they should observe the version number at all times and instead imagine what retail will be like.

I have no problem with people who have decided to cancel pre-orders based on the beta, so this isn't really aimed at you, just using your quote. There's nothing wrong with deciding to wait to see what the final version is like, and whether they've cleared up a lot of issues with the beta. My only beef is with the people who are concluding the final version is going to "suck" based on the beta. And in that area, Darks is right - none of us have seen the final. Taking a wait-and-see attitude is fine, but it'd be nice if people would lay off the pre-judging. Judge the final product by the actual final product, not conjecture about what it'll be like.

Looks like I will type something afterall:

Here is the problem. Dice does not have a good track record when it comes to good releases. This alone lowers my chances of getting the game at launch. Combined with what they have shown me with this demo beta the chance of me buying it is even lower.

There is also some back story you need from me. I was in the FFXIV alpha and beta from day one. Look how that turned out. The entire experience has made me a bit more leery about buying games at launch especially when the pre release (alpha/beta/demo) is piss poor. The dev team not listening to their users. Bugs never getting fixed. That sort of thing. Not to mention how PC users have been getting shit on over the last 10 years.

You can also tack on my distaste of Origin and lack of Steam purchase.

With all that the final version could come with 72 female virgins and a lifetime supply of Iron Forge dick pills and I still would not get it at launch.

To me thatís absurd logic. Your choice on buying it or not, but basing a decision on what you think you saw does not make any sense at all.

"What you think you saw" is probably the most hilarious thing I've seen posted in awhile. Yes how dare people make decisions based on actual play experience, they should observe the version number at all times and instead imagine what retail will be like. They treated it like a demo, not a beta. Second, most people don't give a shit about the SP game so obviously they would base their decision on how the multiplayer plays. EA isn't doing a "demo" at release so this is what people have to go on, if it confusing why people are deciding whether or not to buy the game then you aren't thinking hard enough.