“Better record does not equal better QB. Cutler better than Brady, Rodgers, Brees?”

Brady, Rodgers, and Brees are elite, SB-winning QBs any team would love to have on their roster…That said, I believe Jay Cutler is the right QB to lead the Bears to that level, he has the talent…Bad o-line play, no legit WRs before this year, and his own poor decision-making have held him back thus far.

You say record doesn’t matter, but Jay is 26-9 in his last 35 starts, and was 7-3 last year before breaking his thumb…We all saw what happened to that winning record once Caleb Hanie got hold of it…/-:

Anyway…Back to the topic at hand…I also think both Luck and RG3 will be great (likely elite) QBs in the NFL.

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Fri, 09 Nov 2012 18:10:43 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1508580#comment-2108954inthearex says:
Nov 9, 2012 11:41 AM
easy there skins23. Dont get all stat guy on us. Luck is better. period. RG3 runs a pedestrian and simple style of offense where they run 1000 times per game. As for Luck, they gave him the keys and told him to go drive.
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Sorry that I actually made a post that consisted of stats and reasoning instead of just “Rg who” or “Luck>RG3 by far” which exemplify a lot of posts on this site. And that since you don’t like my argument, the stats are invalid, apparently.

I’d love to hear your reasoning as to why “Luck is better, period”. Again, I like Luck. I don’t see how he’s better, “period”. A couple weeks ago, there were Colts fans on this site saying Indy had made the wrong pick.

And “pedestrian and simple offense” is simply incorrect and ignorant. They’re running the zone read the majority of the offense (too often for my liking, in fact) in which RG3 is making any of several decisions POST-snap. Kyle Shanahan has installed a great hybrid option offense that up until 2 weeks ago has been working very well, but they have been struggling of late without Garcon and Davis. Their intermediate and between the hash routes have been killing defenses, but they have not run as many deep patters as they should be.

skins fans are whining and making excuses, buyers remorse ? easy schedule? lol, and unlike skins, we win at home and on the road too, want some cheese with that whine skins23?

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Wow, great comment. Brilliant, really. Yet so very typical of posters here.

I am hardly whining. I love RG3 and would not trade him for anyone in the league, including Luck. I like Luck as well. I think they’ll both be great QBs and both have chances to win Super Bowls.

Yes, when you play the Titans and Jags twice, Browns, Chiefs, Bills, Jets, your schedule is easy. The Skins actually have just as many road wins as the Colts do. I realize that the Skins are not good right now.

AGAIN, all I am saying is that just because the Colts have a better record does not necessarily make Luck a better QB. They’re both 9 games into their career.

]]>By: broncosnativehttps://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/08/luck-colts-improve-to-6-3-with-win-over-jaguars/#comment-2108920
Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:55:16 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1508580#comment-2108920You people don’t understand that RG3 and luck are in two different systems, two different styles of play, different teams. Do you really think luck would thrive in that redskins offense? Would RG3 have better success in the redskins offense? Both guys had great games and bad games, luck average an int per game but that doesn’t make him no less better than RG3. RG3 on the other hand takes too many sacks and literally has to run for his life but he’s also no less better than luck. Face it, these two are gonna be your next manning and Brady but its not gonna happen over night, their teams still have loose holes to fill
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Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:43:10 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1508580#comment-2108895Hey Jax haters, the Jags will move only when I move into your momma house.
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Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:40:28 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1508580#comment-2108891skins fans are whining and making excuses, buyers remorse ? easy schedule? lol, and unlike skins, we win at home and on the road too, want some cheese with that whine skins23?
]]>By: dexterismyherohttps://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/08/luck-colts-improve-to-6-3-with-win-over-jaguars/#comment-2108863
Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:26:03 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1508580#comment-2108863And he can also tackle!
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Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:09:52 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1508580#comment-2108829He’s better based on what we see.
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Fri, 09 Nov 2012 16:42:39 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1508580#comment-2108792zeedoubleyou says:
Nov 9, 2012 11:29 AM

I agree that the training wheel are still on. I wish they would let them off a bit since RG3 actually has a very accurate deep ball and was known for this in college, but the injury to Garcon has really hindered their downfield game.

The ‘line of scrimmage’ stat keeps coming up, but RG3 is still ahead of Luck in yards/attempt on the season, meaning his passes on average have been just as effective.

I like Luck and wish him well but its foolish to say Luck is better based on record.

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Fri, 09 Nov 2012 16:41:55 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1508580#comment-2108791easy there skins23. Dont get all stat guy on us. Luck is better. period. RG3 runs a pedestrian and simple style of offense where they run 1000 times per game. As for Luck, they gave him the keys and told him to go drive.
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Fri, 09 Nov 2012 16:29:14 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1508580#comment-2108765@skins23

The stats do not even begin to tell the story.

RGIII throws the highest percentage of passes within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage in the NFL. He is playing great in the system Shanahan has put him in, but the training wheels are still on.

Luck’s average depth of his pass attempts is highest in the entire league. Despite a rather porous line, he has taken relatively few sacks and has been keeping his eyes downfield and taking hits after getting the ball out just in time.

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Fri, 09 Nov 2012 16:24:50 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1508580#comment-2108758RG what? Who?
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Fri, 09 Nov 2012 16:18:26 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1508580#comment-2108745raymondtx says:
Nov 9, 2012 9:35 AM
What this season really says about the colts is that they tanked last year like nobody’s business. We all knew they were going to “suck for luck” at the beginning of the season. I don’t look at this season as some great story of the lil engine that could….i see it as a team that threw games for their own benefit. They really should be fined not patted on the back.

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Yea and they blew 4 mil on that lame duck Kerry Collins just throw everyone off their scent too! Tool

They’re both great QBs, and they’re both going to have points where one looks better and one looks worse. 2 weeks ago after RG3 led the go ahead drive at NYG, everyone had RG3 as the better QB so far. Now the Skins have played 2 terrible games and Luck is on top. It will fluctuate along their careers, but Luck isn’t better just because the Colts have a better record.

Don’t forget that Luck is leading the league in attempts averaging over 40/game, the Colts have one of the easiest schedules in the league, are playing an emotionally charged season; meanwhile RG3 is playing without his #1WR, #1TE, a terrible defense, and a bogus $18M cap penalty.

Also,

Passer rating RG3 leads 93 to 79.

Comp % RG3 leads 65 to 56.

TD/INT – RG3 8/3, Luck 10/9.

Rushing RG3 529/6TDs, Luck 159/5 TDs

Better record does not equal better QB. Cutler better than Brady, Rodgers, Brees?

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Fri, 09 Nov 2012 14:35:49 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1508580#comment-2108583What this season really says about the colts is that they tanked last year like nobody’s business. We all knew they were going to “suck for luck” at the beginning of the season. I don’t look at this season as some great story of the lil engine that could….i see it as a team that threw games for their own benefit. They really should be fined not patted on the back.
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Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:50:48 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1508580#comment-2108516What ever happened to that “wonderful” Justin Blackmon. As a Vikes fan I was initially dismayed with our very unsexy pick of an OL when we needed receivers so bad, but after his DUI and all the nothing he’s accomplished this year I feel much better about that beast Matt Kalil.
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Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:48:18 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1508580#comment-2108512Everyone who plays Jacksonville gets well. No big deal there.
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Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:20:50 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1508580#comment-2108478Jacksonville might be the worst NFL team I’ve ever seen play. They are hopeless. I’m not hating on Luck cause he’s great, but the Colts sure do have a light schedule. I think they’re probably a bit overrated at this point. They did lose to the Jags and got rolled by the Jets.
]]>By: inthearexhttps://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/08/luck-colts-improve-to-6-3-with-win-over-jaguars/#comment-2108433
Fri, 09 Nov 2012 12:43:50 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1508580#comment-2108433I’d actually pick luck as MVP.
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Fri, 09 Nov 2012 12:41:19 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1508580#comment-2108431Manning-less Colts continue to win!
Meanwhile the hometown debacle and woes continue in J ville. Is this the last season of pro football in Jacksonville?
Team has zero talent, and its fans have given up already! Sad to see the lack of support.
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Fri, 09 Nov 2012 12:37:09 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1508580#comment-2108426Yeah, I really bit my fingernails off over this bar burner!
]]>By: doublebrohttps://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/08/luck-colts-improve-to-6-3-with-win-over-jaguars/#comment-2108416
Fri, 09 Nov 2012 12:30:41 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1508580#comment-2108416Officials served this one up on a platter for Luck & co. An absolute sham.
]]>By: sinister23https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/08/luck-colts-improve-to-6-3-with-win-over-jaguars/#comment-2108408
Fri, 09 Nov 2012 12:17:12 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1508580#comment-2108408Jags might get a couple wins if Chad Henne was starting!
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