Who is Jordan Maxwell?

To many in the truth movement, Jordan Maxwell has become a revered source of information. Appearing many times on the Alex Jones Show, and the author of many books and videos of his own, Jordan Maxwell has been supposedly exposing the Machiavellian machinations of the global elite for many years.

However, what most in the truth movement have failed to realize is that they are unwittingly being led into the New World Order by Maxwell, Jones, David Icke, Alan Watt and others. I will cover those others at a later date, but for now, I will focus upon Jordan Maxwell.

First of all, Jordan Maxwell derived his name from Jordanus Maximus, a character created by Helena Blavatsky in her book, Isis Unveiled – which Jordan Maxwell has publicly admitted is his favorite book by Blavatsky, whom he has also publicly acknowledged great admiration for.
Helena Blavatsky was the founder of the Theosophical Society and the movement known as Theosophy, which is, to quote Wikipedia, “a doctrine of religious philosophy and metaphysics. Theosophy holds that all religions are attempts by the ‘Spiritual Hierarchy’ to help humanity in evolving to greater perfection, and that each religion therefore has a portion of the truth.” To quote Blavatsky, herself: “We assert that the divine spark in man being one and identical in its essence with the Universal Spirit, our “spiritual Self” is practically omniscient, but that it cannot manifest its knowledge owing to the impediments of matter. Now the more these impediments are removed, in other words, the more the physical body is paralyzed, as to its own independent activity and consciousness, as in deep sleep or deep trance, or, again, in illness, the more fully can the inner Self manifest on this plane. This is our explanation of those truly wonderful phenomena of a higher order, in which undeniable intelligence and knowledge are exhibited.”

While this mumbo-jumbo may seem harmless enough, pay close attention to some further quotes from Blavatsky:

“It is Satan who is the God of our planet and the only God.” The Secret Doctrine, pages 215, 216, 220, 245, 255, 533, (VI)

“The Celestial Virgin which thus becomes the Mother of Gods and Devils at one and the same time; for she is the ever-loving beneficent Deity…but in antiquity and reality Lucifer or Luciferius is the name. Lucifer is divine and terrestrial Light, ‘the Holy Ghost’ and ‘Satan’ at one and the same time.” The Secret Doctrine, page 539.

Blavatsky was a Co-Freemason. Co-Freemasonry is simply a form of Freemasonry that admits both men and women as members. Therefore, Blavatsky was a Freemason.

Manly Palmer Hall’s most noted work was The Secret Teachings of All Ages: An Encyclopedic Outline of Masonic, Hermetic, Qabbalistic and Rosicrucian Symbolical Philosophy, published in 1928. Note that the word “Qabbalistic” refers to Kabbalism, or the Kabbala, “…a discipline and school of thought concerned with the mystical aspect of Judaism. It is a set of esoteric teachings meant to explain the relationship between an eternal/mysterious Creator and the mortal/finite universe,” to quote Wikipedia. What Wikipedia doesn’t tell you, though, is that this “mysterious creator” is Lucifer.

Now, whether one believes in gods and devils or not is irrelevant, here. I’m an agnostic, myself. The point is, the global elite certainly do believe in all this and it is from this twisted thinking that the justification for all they do is derived. If we accept that Luciferianism is, at it’s base, an excuse for the practice of evil in the world – and I think we can establish this, based upon the many ritual sacrifices of innocent human beings carried out by these people in the name of their “mysterious creator” Lucifer – then it follows that those who subscribe to such beliefs are very likely to be practicing evil in the world. I think the very fact that the elite, who do subscribe to this worldview, are carrying out an evil agenda to wipe out up to 90% of the human race and to subjugate the remaining survivors to slavery under a world government is all the proof we need of the danger posed by such beliefs, whether they have any basis in fact or not.

That Jordan Maxwell admires such thinkers implies that, he, himself, shares in their delusional thinking. In fact, his own ideas are derived from their influence. So, why is it that so many people in the truth movement are followers of Jordan Maxwell? Because they have quite simply been duped into the belief that Jordan Maxwell is a “patriot” who is exposing the New World Order. The fact is, though, what Jordan Maxwell is actually doing is called “externalzing the hierarchy,” which is a Theosophical concept. Note that Blavatsky mentions the “Spiritual Hierarchy.” What this refers to is the preparation of humanity for the New World Religion, which will, of course, be Luciferian in nature. The only way we can be prepared for our place in this New World Religion (and the New World Order, of which it is a part) is if we are taught about it. How does one learn of anything? So, what Maxwell, Jones, Icke, Watt and others are doing by exposing us to the New World Order is they are teaching us all about it. They are “externalizing the hierarchy.” Furthermore, such films as Zeitgeistand its sequel, Zeitgeist: Addendum have done a marvelous job of externalizing the hierarchy by preparing its viewers for the New Age. Not coincidentally, Zeitgeist is based largely upon Maxwell’s writings and lectures, which, in turn, are derived from the teachings of Blavatsky and Hall.

Bailey is yet another of those admired by Jordan Maxwell. This is not a simple accusation of “guilt by association,” for it is the ideas of these people that Maxwell has derived his own thinking from.

Aside from Maxwell’s connections to Theosophists and Luciferians, there is the fact that much of what he says is simply false. He skillfully blends fact and fiction to con his audience into believing what he says is true. For example, his claim that there is a number on everyone’s birth certificate which is traded on the New York Stock Exchange is simply not true and anyone can prove this by looking for that number on their own birth certificate. It is supposedly located in the lower right corner of the document. The point of this is to make the listener believe that his very life is nothing more than a commodity to the elite and that their power over our lives is absolute and inescapable. If we come to accept that, then we will accept anything, including the New World Order, for how can we possibly resist?

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I found this interesting piece of information while conducting my own research into Jordan Maxwell. I ccannot validate the accuracy of the information but if true it offers a good insight into the prime motivators behind his particular flavor of truth. Maxwell and Jones appear to be cut from the same cloth. One just has to witness the array of useless products avsilable from the info wars machine to reach a logical conclusion. In fact in the case of Jones, it almost appears as though he embraces the snakeoil salesman motif. Very i terestimg stuff here. Thanks.https://unifiedserenity.wordpress.com/2012/09/28/jordan-maxwell-revealed-accused-of-being-a-fraud/

You had me there until the very end, about our birth certificates/numbers and you are wrong; it is absolutely true. I have fifteen years of investment– working-professional experience and knowledge– and I have personally keyed in my BC number and the month and year into our (U.S) government bond website. To my chagrin, I’m worth a measly $78,000-something to the Vatican. You must be born after 1950, as the program works with those shorter, un-hyphenated numbers. We are collateral to our country’s loans, and only our LABOR, not money, holds any real value to any government. In essence,our leaders need US. We don’t need them, although we’re led to believe as much.

I read Maxwell but haven’t embraced him,
interesting but it is so esoteric it is difficult to verify what he claims,
however respectfully I didn’t find this story to provide any convincing information that supports the thesis that Maxwell is a shill, disinformation, etc.

1] Alice Bailey was English. If only Americans who scream about ‘truth’, and who are careful enough to call Scots, Welsh and Irish by their right names, would get even this much right. ‘Britishness’ is a political identity. There is no ‘British’ nation and no ‘British’ accent. ‘British’ and ‘Britishness’ function as shorthand for administering the affairs of four distinct nations as a single political entity. The term ‘British’ has about as much resonance ethnically as ‘European’ might for anyone outside the discipline of anthropology. Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish are ‘British’ too.

2] I formed a favourable impression of Alan Watt having heard he’d rejected offers of money to play Maxwell and Icke’s game. I’ll revise that opinion given what’s here but I notice you haven’t expanded upon it, and it might be a case of tarring them all with the same brush in the absence of specific charges.

3] @Richie – What you ‘know’ about ‘Ancient Irish Culture’ is the product of fashionable nonsense [‘Famine Studies’ classes and such] every bit at deceptive as the rest of what’s discussed here and controlled by the same forces. America’s had its fill of being the world’s baddie. In the egalitarian ethos promoted by our masters it craves a place in the modern pantheon of victims. It wants a little of the martyr’s stardust to fall its way. Makow and others are using the internet to shift blame for all the ills of the world on to the English and the Judeo-Scottish royal family in particular [no, the Queen is NOT English] and America laps it up. Hope this doesn’t put a crimp in your leprechaun costume but the love you seek is unrequited. You are despised but your money is not. We over here know more about it than you. They’re neighbours of ours. We hear them talking through the walls. History is written [and re-written] by people Richie. Like people it follows the money.

With havin so much content and articles do you ever run into
any issues of plagorism or copyright infringement? My site has a lot of exclusive content I’ve either written myself or
outsourced but it looks like a lot of it is popping it up all over the web without my
authorization. Do you know any methods to help
reduce content from being stolen? I’d truly appreciate it.

I’d like to follow your writings and learn more, you have articulated some of my thoughts here. I am not as engaged in the rabbit hole so to speak, I first watched AJ on VHS wake up or Wako. But was trolling all these subjects and landed here. Thank you

hello to you all,
i enjoyed reading these posts and would like to remind anyone
passing by here of what Bill Cooper always said “listen to everyone,
trust nobody,not even me,find out for yourself if what i,m saying is true”.

I have watched and listened to the characters mentioned in these posts
JM,AJ, etc I have no reason to trust them.

People like Jordan maxwell and Michael tsariuos or whatever his name is are seriously crazy. They really do mix fact with fiction, its kinda twisted what they do because they are twisted people. Maxwells little protege Michael tsarious did a programme on Irish secret societys , wow i watched like 5 minutes of it and just laughed but then got annoyed at the fact maybe some people actually believe this crap, they take a little bit of a story and expand on it using their imagination to make it seem real. I just happen to know quite a lot about Ancient Irish Culture and a lot more than they do on the subject. Also notice how on most of Michael tsarious videos he has disabled the comment box, now I wonder why he has done this ?? would it have anything to do with the fact that HE MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE ????? WHO IS HE ?? WHERE DOES HE COME FROM,, WHERE WAS HE EDUCATED ???? WHAT DO HIS FRIENDS AND FAMILY SAY ABOUT HIM?? HAS HE EVER SPENT TIME IN PRISON ??? OOPPS AND IF SO ,,,,,,,WHAT FOR ????????

Just another person muddying up waters of rational thought or investigation with Jesus talk and god talk, which are mere figments of your imagination. You won’t believe anything Icke or Jordan says because it goes against the bible you believe in which these elite wrote centuries ago to control you and every other person who believes such nonsense. Your article didn’t change my mind about Icke or Jordan…all it did was justify their truth.

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I posted a lot of this on Jordan Maxwell project avalon. The funny thing is, they wont deal with the facts you share. I am reblogging your article. If you ever feel brave join Project avalon and look me up. Just wear some asbestos underwear!

Now it is 2012,now I am seeing every thing Jordan Maxwell is saying…even on CNN,they showing UfOs all over the world…I read most of your post,but you can not deny whats going on ,right in your face…I say stop talking bad about the man and move on,only we can mislead our self,Mr Jordan is just deleavering a messege,that then right in your face…our US States gov,has been misleading and lying us.

A very interesting article indeed and you seem to have a lot of good evidence against him. So I wouldn’t argue against you but I do have to ask do you know what “satan” is really is? As in what it refers to, because “it is Satan who is god of this planet” and would you believe me if I told you “satan” actually promotes Selflessness?

wow i am so glad that this is the first article i came across i watched a lecture (the slideshow) by maxwell and thought oh man no way zeitgeist is true then i watched everything i could get my hands on by maxwell thinking i was getting the real deal then while looking for more i came across the maxwell debunked video and i was so glad then i went to zeitgeist debunked and was even more elated ITS ALL LIES i cant believe christians are falling for this that these men are straight up lying and people wont look at the other side all
thank you

Exactly, Anton. We are what we believe. Most people fail to realize how vulnerable their subconscious is, how it absorbs information without any conscious filtering at all. They fail to realize the role the subconscious plays in their own behavior and attitudes. They are aware of only their conscious thoughts and so believe that they are in no peril. But, even their consciously held values are vulnerable to manipulation via propaganda.

It is a favored tactic of all propagandists to make themselves seem to be just like the people they are targeting. By being perceived as “one of us,” they gain our trust, respect and even admiration. Thus, nothing they say will ever be questioned.

All these group of men in the Internet work to show the different parts of the same picture and create it together which cud be a mission of those hidden men who want us to see the big picture by using some other individuals to do that introduction in internet which is growing fast and we all now got a picture which may be a mix of truth and lies…
This picture is now recorded in our brain and it is there put for something which will serve to the future. Humanity is becoming angry and it is blaming more and more the world elites now…

“I do notice that Alex claims to be a Christian but he often goes on and on how man because of his nature is inherently capable of sort of becoming a god (not his exact words) and sort of able to save himself and save the world. That sounds very “new agey” to me.”

I agree with you on this, Jeannon. It is fairly transparent to me, now. Basically, all of these voices are relaying the same information to us and it appears to be for the same purposes. As I said in the article, this would be regarded as “externalizing the hierarchy.” In other words, they believe they are preparing us all for the New Age or the New World Order. The problem is that it’s so easy for them to do so and at the same time make it seem as though they are warning us about it. Most who listen to them have no reason to assume it’s anything more than a warning of what is happening and what is planed for the future, so the ulterior motives for these revelations never occurs to most people. This is the hardest thing to convey to them because it is so difficult for most to wrap their mind around it. We tend to naturally trust others, especially those who sound like they are trying to help us, so there is this tendency to be blinded by our trust and to follow them like sheep. The irony is that these are the same folks who believe they are awake and that the people not listening to Jones, et al are the sheep.

It’s kind of difficult to categorize Monteith. He’s been a frequent guest of Jones’, but he seems to be harmless enough and most of what he says is pretty solidly researched. As for his particular viewpoint on Christianity, I’m sure you’d be more aware of the differences than I would be.

I stopped listening to Jones about a year ago, though I do read the articles on Infowars daily, just to see what is going on, as well as to see how Jones is spinning it. By the way, it never ceases to amuse me how many readers of Infowars think the articles are somehow the work of Jones and crew. True, some of them are, but the vast majority are just blog posts and mainstream media articles. Wherever possible, I like to read the original articles. Sometimes Kurt Nimmo’s and Paul Joseph Watson’s spin on things is a bit exaggerated, to say the least. I can spot their pet causes quite easily, for example the “sovereignty movement” thing.

“I understand your viewpoint, though, that this message is being used to neutralize Christian faith and replace it with this New Age mumbo jumbo. You are right about that. It is evident that the intent is to plant ideas into the minds of both believers and non-believers, alike, for the purpose of getting everyone on the same page, as it were.”

I really had not come to that conclusion about them intending to neutralize Christian faith.

However I am pretty sure that “Luciferians” are quite skilled at manipulating people into calling evil good.

To me, Evil is Lucifer, and Good is God, in the ultimate sense. We humans ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, so we are capable of consumate evil as well as capable of great good.

I really cannot identify what their motivations are. I can only observe, and as a Christian, judge them by their fruits. All 4 of the guys bear negative fruit. None of them offer anything constructive whatsoever. I think the most constructive thing can mean being careful to only present truly solidly documented facts, at least as fully as possible with this kind of material. And when the “info” is not or cannot be documented, then that needs to be stated forthrightly.

Exposing the false flags (like recent Pentagon thing) and showing the patterns in the many events we experience and when we experience them is a good thing to do. The Pentagon guy was headlined in a major newspaper as a 9-11 truth seeker and equated that “belief” with his crazed and dangerous and “terrorist” behavior. Also whenever there is a big supreme court decision coming up about gun rights, there always is a lone gun “nutter” incident a few days before, and there is a such a case pending right now.

I have listened to Dr. Stan Monteith and a few other “patriot” shows for many years. I do not subscribe to some of these hosts form of “Christianity”, but the ones I listen to do seem to be endeavoring to be careful about their facts and do want to help people arrange their lives as best they can in light of what is coming down the pike.

I remember one time hearing Maxwell as a guest on the Sunday show of Alex Jones and Maxwell was naming off how we got certain words and what their real meanings were. I immediately starting searching around of the web to see if there was any support for his assertions and could find none. Of course, Maxwell would just say that proves his point about all this being kept amazingly secret.

I hate to put Alex Jones in with the other guys, so I will not. He has done some good in some small ways, at least on some things here locally anyway. I do notice that Alex claims to be a Christian but he often goes on and on how man because of his nature is inherently capable of sort of becoming a god (not his exact words) and sort of able to save himself and save the world. That sounds very “new agey” to me.

All religions have been infiltrated and taken down from within, and that includes my religion.

Thee are many false philosophies served up to us all the time and some of those come from our churches or from New Age groups, and many churches are becoming New Age groups.

I probably am going to stop listening to the shows on GCN and RBN as they are not helping me personally in my life at all. After many years of listening and reading, I just see how it is quite possible to use all of this profoundly important information for profoundly selfish and manipulative agendas.

Jennon, while you and I may disagree about religion, I think your assessment of the situation is fairly spot on. Yes, Jones, Maxwell, Icke, Watt, et al are serving the same NWO agenda they pretend to be “exposing” by the very act of revealing it to us. By doing so, they prepare our minds for eventual resignation to and acceptance of it.

The vast majority of people will eventually come to accept their lot as inescapable and will resignedly give up fighting against it. There will always be a handful, though, who will display their bravado and talk about how they are armed and ready to fight, etc, but when (if) it actually comes to that, will they do so, and will they know what to do and who they are fighting against? I think not. Most of the people in that group have this romantic vision in their minds, the product of watching too many movies like “Red Dawn,” in which they visualize themselves and their supposed comrades-in-arms standing, with their weapons drawn, over a pile of NWO bad guys they’ve vanquished.

The problem with that is that there are many unbalanced people out there who may act upon their fantasies and, in so doing, may provide exactly the excuse for martial law that the elite are waiting for. If not, then the elite may provide it, themselves, via some carefully orchestrated false-flag incidents (like the one at the Pentagon the other night) and use the media to promote it as the work of “domestic terrorists.” Jones and crew daily exhort their listeners to “do something” and couch everything they say in militaristic terms (“Infowar,” “we’re over the target,” etc), planting in the minds of their listeners the idea that we’re on the verge of a civil war that is coming any day now. With encouragement like this, it is only a matter of time before someone or some group commits some acts of violence against the government, thus providing the perfect excuse for a crackdown on “domestic terrorists.”

The threat from the NWO is real enough, alright, but the question is, how much of what we are being told by Maxwell, Jones, Icke, Watt, et al is true and trustworthy? You suggest that the situation isn’t as hopeless as they make it out to be, and, after a few years of listening to them and analyzing what they they are telling us, I tend to agree. I have witnessed, in the last year, the hyping of several supposed events, such as the rounding up of everyone for transport to the FEMA camps if they refuse the “swine flu” vaccine, etc, that have come and gone without incident. I, myself, take some blame for having added my own voice to that. But, I’ve become wiser and more cautious, as well as more skeptical now.

This raises a question as to their true motives and that is what I am attempting to address here in this article on Maxwell. I believe I’ve shown, for those who are open minded enough to read without shutting down their critical thinking skills and reacting in knee-jerk fashion like a “true Maxwell follower,” that the sources of Maxwell’s material are not exactly the sort that most “truthers” and “patriots” would find consistent with their personal values.

Touching on the subject of religion, it appears that Maxwell and, by extension, the film “Zeitgeist” are aimed at an audience of atheists and agnostics, primarily, as well as those who may question their faith. He and the film both provide “evidence” that all religions are a sham and that we needn’t follow them anymore and can feel free to cast them off. BUT, the thing is, what “Zeitgeist” and Maxwell, as well as Icke and others are promoting to fill that vacuum with is a New Age World Religion. I think it is that audience this material is really aimed at because their minds are most receptive to the message being promoted. I understand your viewpoint, though, that this message is being used to neutralize Christian faith and replace it with this New Age mumbo jumbo. You are right about that. It is evident that the intent is to plant ideas into the minds of both believers and non-believers, alike, for the purpose of getting everyone on the same page, as it were.

Personally, as an agnostic, I subscribe to the view that answers to the questions of the existence – or non-existence – of God are simply unknowable. The term “agnostic” literally means “not knowing,” or “without knowledge.” It is simply the position that, until some form of definitive proof is provided in one way or another, no one really knows, one way or the other, whether there is or is not a God. That applies equally to Lucifer, but, as I said in the article, regardless of what we believe or don’t believe, the elite DO believe that their “god of the world” Lucifer is real and has real power and influence in the world and I believe that anyone who subscribes to this creed, whether there is any Lucifer or not, is buying into a worldview that promotes evil.

“For example, his claim that there is a number on everyone’s birth certificate which is traded on the New York Stock Exchange is simply not true and anyone can prove this by looking for that number on their own birth certificate. It is supposedly located in the lower right corner of the document.The point of this is to make the listener believe that his very life is nothing more than a commodity to the elite and that their power over our lives is absolute and inescapable. If we come to accept that, then we will accept anything, including the New World Order, for how can we possibly resist?”

So when I stated in my last post…

“He never mentions that there is hope or any way out. We just need to become informed and then face and accept the overwhelming reality and then acquiesce.”

I was just stating in another way what you stated in your original piece. You attributed JM’s giving out false info about numbers on our birth certificate and humans being traded on the stock market “to make the listener believe that his very life is nothing more than a commodity to the elite and that their power over our lives is absolute and inescapable.”

I am attributing the natural reaction people may have to constantly being told all the nightmarish “1984” “facts” that are upon us and that will only get worse with time. People believe in Alex Jones and they believe in Jordan Maxwell and because they do, they accept what they say as true. They usually never check/research even one item for its factual support. People just become angry at first and then internalize the anger and go into sort of a depressed inactive “zombie” state. They become “Jordan Maxwell fans” and “Alex Jones fans.”

As Al said, “When reporting facts, it is not the job of the researcher or reporter to locate solutions for the problems uncovered. That is the job of those who receive the information. To discredit a researcher for not also finding solutions makes no sense.”,
I would agree that it is not necessary at all for a “researcher” to locate solutions for the “problems” he uncovers.

However, one could make a strong argument that Maxwell and Watt, and may Jones too, are playing the “problem, reaction, solution” (Hegelian dialectic) game here.

Yes, we need to know what we are up against, so we need data about our “enemy.” But much of the data about this giant conspiracy against God and man can only be verified to a certain extent, to a certain level of probability, a much lower level of probablity than in the impirical sciences. So many of the “facts” thrown out by a “brilliant researcher” may well be not facts at all.

But “researchers” can know how people will react when bombarded with one earth shattering, worldview shattering, “fact” after another. And certain people may choose to use that “reaction” for an agenda, for a “solution” to the “problems” created by the “brilliant researchers.” The idea is to manipulate people through fear and a set of frightening perceived “facts.”

It is also true that the problems are real and serious, no matter how poorly we are able to truly document the problems. It is also true that there really is not much we can do at all other than to, as Ephesians 5:11 says “expose deeds of darkness”.

To me a “researcher” needs to offer the hope that Our Savior alone offers. We expose the deeds of darkness as an act of love and obedience and faith, and having done all, we will stand. (Eph. 6: 10-20.)

If a researcher only delivers constant doom and gloom, then for me, it starts looking like the “researcher” WANTS the new world order and wants to use and manipulate their “fans” in the short term for money and fame and power, and the in the long term, for the establishment of the one world death and slavery system.

I only read and listen to researchers these days who seem balanced in one the one hand sharing documented information, discussing that information rationally, and then on the other hand, offer a balance of information on what we may possibly to save our lives in this world and save our souls for the next.

“You have put together a smear campaign based on little factual information about Jordan Maxwell’s work. Listen to his videos and/or read his books and review his documentation so you understand what he is all about. On his web site he has ‘documents’ to support all of his discoveries. There are hours of videos for all to see to become more informed about Maxwell and his life’s work. I’ve already done that, which is why I feel knowledgeable enough to comment.”

Al, first of all, a “campaign” this is not. It is a single article, that’s all. As for your use of the word “smear,” it is not at all a “smear” to show the fallacies committed someone else, especially when those fallacies are misleading millions of people. Rather, it is a public service.

As for Maxwell, I’m very familiar with him and his “work” – more so than you are, I might add, which is how I’m better equipped to write about him than you are. All you know is what you believe about him. You don’t have the facts. If you were truly well-versed on the man and his works, you’d know what I know about him, and you obviously don’t.

“The tools you have used to make your point thus far:
~argument by inference
~guilt by association
~making generalizations about a man’s life’s work siting one example, the Wall Street issue, to discredit 40 years of his life’s work.”

First, inference is a very useful tool in any kind of debate. It is certainly legitimate and there is no crime in its use. Secondly, I explicitly stated why what I’m doing is NOT an accusation of “guilt by association, as the people Maxwell has associated with are the sources for most of his material. Mere association it is not. Maxwell has been powerfully influenced by others and I have shown the influence those others have had in detail. Furthermore, I haven’t made any generalizations; I’ve been quite specific, in fact, about what is wrong with Maxwell’s “works.” The “Wall Street issue,” as you put it, was one example out of many I could have listed showing the falsehoods that Maxwell spreads in his writings and lectures. That he’s been doing so for forty years only underscores how easily he has gotten away with it, as well as how gullible his audience has been.

You have put together a smear campaign based on little factual information about Jordan Maxwell’s work. Listen to his videos and/or read his books and review his documentation so you understand what he is all about. On his web site he has ‘documents’ to support all of his discoveries. There are hours of videos for all to see to become more informed about Maxwell and his life’s work. I’ve already done that, which is why I feel knowledgeable enough to comment.

The tools you have used to make your point thus far:
~argument by inference
~guilt by association
~making generalizations about a man’s life’s work siting one example, the Wall Street issue, to discredit 40 years of his life’s work.

It is evident that you have presented a poorly put together case against an honest brilliant researcher – religious beliefs aside. Your information about Maxwell and his work is weak as are your arguments.

Please consider investigating a man’s work a little more before you discredit him in the future.

“Gary has launched a smear campaign against Jordan Maxwell and the most prominent public figures exposing the NWO, using the argument “guilt by association” over and over again. Note, he provided absolutely no counters to the points I made. In fact he directed the discussion away from Maxwell and legal “personhood” instead.”

It seems I was countering every point you made while you were busy writing more drivel, Al.

No, I haven’t “launched a smear campaign” against Maxwell, I am simply attempting to educate people like yourself as to the truth about him. Furthermore, as I said, I have no debate against the concept of “legal personhood.” You have simply latched onto my criticism of one thing Maxwell said and have misconstrued it to mean something entirely different from what I intended. As I said, my point was to show that much of what Maxwell says is simply false, and the claim that everyone’s birth certificate contains a number traded on the New York Stock Exchange is one of the best examples of his fallacious rhetoric. The fact is, no such number exists, in the first place and it is sublimely ridiculous that it is traded on the New York Stock Exchange. Think about it, Al. Even if such a number did exist, of what possible value is it on the New York Stock Exchange? This not only defies reason and logic, it is an insult to the intelligence of all those who know what the exchange is and how it is operated. Any stock exchange, as the term implies, is a marketplace for public offerings of shares of stock in corporations. Since an individual is neither a corporation (though the reverse has been argued by our enemies) nor a commodity of any value that makes trading feasible, how would this trading take place? Also, how would the lives of over 350 million people be traded? There aren’t even that many stocks trading on all the world’s stock exchanges combined. If individuals were being traded on a daily basis (and by whom? The public doesn’t know anything about this, right?), how would there be any time left in the trading day for placing the thousands of trades on billions of dollars worth of corporate stocks?

“Of all of the lecture videos made of Jordan Maxwell, Gary provided a link to the only one I’ve ever seen that was made for the sole purpose of discrediting an excellent researcher.”

The link I provided was to an independently produced video about Jordan Maxwell. It uses clips of his own videos, as well as videos of some of his appearances on talk shows. That is what the link is to. As for “discrediting” Maxwell, it is Maxwell’s own words that do that.

“I’m sure we can locate a video made by Icke’s enemies as well. This is a common method used to discredit very credible researchers and Jordan Maxwell is one of the best.”

I’m sure I can, also, Al. In fact, that will be forthcoming. But, what you call “discrediting” is simply exposing these charlatans for what they are, that’s all. There is nothing more potent to “discredit” Jordan Maxwell than Jordan Maxwell’s own words. I don’t like liars, Al, especially those who mislead millions of people and direct them toward beliefs that are false and that usher them into exactly what they think they are fighting: the New World Order.

“When reporting facts, it is not the job of the researcher or reporter to locate solutions for the problems uncovered. That is the job of those who receive the information. To discredit a researcher for not also finding solutions makes no sense.”

I said nothing about finding solutions, Al. That was Jeannon, I believe. But, since you’ve mentioned it, how does misdirecting millions of people provide any “solutions?” That is exactly what Maxwell does.

Okay, Al, now that I have more time to address your reply, I will give you the benefit of a complete rebuttal.

“Lots of misleading statements and a suspicious video clip in this article, which was obviously written to discredit Jordan Maxwell.”

Really? Which statements, in particular, are “misleading?” As for my intent, the article is intended to wake up people like yourself, who have unquestioningly bought into everything Maxwell has said without researching it for yourself.

“The video linked titled “whom he has also publicly acknowledged great admiration for” was of such poor quality, no conclusions could reached. Jordan’s voice and the video were so far off sync that I became suspicious it had been significantly doctored. Apparently his voice came from a radio interview however, the name or voice of the host was not revealed so no one could attempt to verify the validity of the clips of the interview – that were obviously highlighted and taken out of context to make some point.”

The quality of the video has more to do with the compression applied to it by You Tube than it does the filmmaker’s expertise. As the narrator says, at the beginning of the video, he is presenting a video that was originally created another person and he gives the URL where that can be found. If you want to see it in the best possible quality, I would suggest viewing it there. But then, you didn’t actually watch the entire video, did you? I know you haven’t because of some things you’ve said here, but, I’ll get to that later.

So, who are you accusing of “doctoring” this footage, exactly? Also, whether it’s been edited or not, that IS Jordan Maxwell’s voice and those ARE Jordan Maxwell’s own words. In parts of the video, he is quite plainly seen saying, on camera, that he admires Blavatsky and has all of her books. In another clip, he is plainly on screen saying that he personally knew Manly P. Hall. Now, if you are so intent upon insisting that this footage has been doctored, it must be because you are in denial about what Maxwell said about himself. Yet, there he is, saying it. I didn’t put those word into his mouth, and neither did anyone else. As for anything he said being taken out of context, what he does say is quite plain, regardless of its original context. I can’t think of any other context in which the words he spoke could possibly be construed to mean something other than what he said.

“These statements at face value don’t support any conclusions:

‘That Jordan Maxwell admires such thinkers implies that, he, himself, shares in their delusional thinking. In fact, his own ideas are derived from their influence.’

‘Bailey is yet another of those admired by Jordan Maxwell. This is not a simple accusation of ‘guilt by association’, for it is the ideas of these people that Maxwell has derived his own thinking from.'”

Certainly they support my argument. That’s why I wrote them. The first statement you’ve chosen establishes that Maxwell has borrowed his ideas from Blavatsky, Hall and those others I have named. In fact, in the video, Maxwell, himself establishes that he owes a debt to the thinking of these people.

The second statement also supports the same contention; i.e., that Bailey, Blavatsky, Hall, et al are the sources from which Maxwell draws most of his material. The video further establishes this fact.

“Jordan Maxwell has been researching literally volumes upon volumes of information for at least 40 yrs. It is not even remotely possible to claim that the several people cited are responsible for Maxwell’s ‘thinking.”

This claim is refuted by the video. Furthermore, it is quite evident from whom Maxwell has derived his ideas and material. He routinely quotes and refers to these people, in his books and his lectures, as sources he has drawn from. Where else do you suppose the “volumes of information” he’s “researched for 40 years” came from? Can you name any other sources of his?

“To lump theosophists [“any of various forms of philosophical or religious thought based on a mystical insight into the divine nature”] and luciferians into one bunch is a rather huge leap. I just heard Jordan Maxwell on Rense the other night. His position remains that much of what is taught in organized religion has been used to manipulate and/or control the masses. Many agree with him. To say that “much of what he says is simply false” based on Gary’s inability to verify ONE of Jordan’s claims is totally unfair and cannot be allowed to go unchallenged. Jordan does an excellent job of educating the public on both the occult and the REALTY that we are currently living under admiralty law that does indeed consider humans to be chattel property of CORP USA.”

As Jennon has so pointed out so well, Theosophists are virtually indistinguishable from Luciferians. Their rhetoric and the subject of their writings is one and the same: Lucifer. Furthermore, the same linkage exists with the Freemasons and Manly P. Hall, Albert Pike and other notable Freemasons have referred to Lucifer in their books. It is undeniable that these same sources have been the chief references that Maxwell has been “researching for 40 years.” He says so, himself.

As for the fact that “many agree with him,” if you have ever had a course in logic, you must surely be aware that agreement with some source does not constitute any proof that the source is truthful or reliable. At one time, most of the world’s population believed the earth was at the center of the universe, that the world is flat and many other ideas that have since been proven wrong. To say that many people agree with Jordan Maxwell is only to underline the fact that he has deluded many unthinking people who don’t possess enough intellectual resource to see through his con game.

I’m familiar with this and I agree with you about it. However, the point I was illustrating – that much of what Maxwell says is false – is certainly illustrated by his claim that there is a number on everyone’s birth certificate (no such number exists, at least on mine it doesn’t) that is traded on the New York Stock Exchange, implying that we are all nothing more than a commodity. The fact is, no such number exists on anyone’s birth certificate and no such trading is going on. I suggested to the reader that he or she can prove this to themselves easily by simply looking at their birth certificate to confirm it. I have, myself, and there is no number anywhere on the document, which is a standard birth certificate issued by the state of Oklahoma. Not only does this refute Maxwell’s statement, it shows how silly it is, as well. Yes, there IS evidence that we are owned by a corporation known as the UNITED STATES, but it isn’t necessary to contend that we are traded on the New York Stock Exchange to make that point and, in fact, saying so only undermines the attempt to educate people about the corporate structure of the U.S. government.

“Everything Jordan has done his entire life has been to educate the public on the dangers the New World Order represents. While Alex Jones, David Icke, Allan Watts, and Jordan Maxwell may not be perfect, they are all doing the same thing and all desire to help society wake up and prevent a 1984 world from becoming our future.”

That, sir, is YOUR opinion, not a fact. I have spent the last year or more uncovering and exposing exactly what these people are really doing and whether you choose to go on believing they are “true patriots” just trying to help humanity or not is of no consequence to the truth, which is something quite different.

“This article was written with the soul purpose of smearing Jordan Maxwell and misleading the readers about legal ‘personhood’. Here is a link (not provided by the author) to an interview with Jordan Maxwell by George Noory.

Again, I’m already familiar with this concept and I don’t dispute it. It is the lies and half-truths Maxwell has used to support it that I object to. As for George Noory, he but another in the same ilk as Jones, et al. If any one of them is suspect, they all are, for they are all, as you pointed out, doing the same thing.

“Perhaps people need to hear what he has to say before they make up their minds. It is true that many will not agree with Jordon’s religious point of view, however they should not throw the baby out with the bathwater. He has a lot of good information on the occult and our legal duality.”

I have heard what he has to say and I believed it, too, for a couple of years. Now, what you have to ask yourself is what was it I found out about that changed my mind. As for “throwing the baby out with the bathwater,” I agree. That’s why I still have some of Jones’ and Icke’s material on my website. But, if you think Maxwell is exposing the occult, think again. He is exposing YOU to the occult. Think about it.

Gary has launched a smear campaign against Jordan Maxwell and the most prominent public figures exposing the NWO, using the argument “guilt by association” over and over again. Note, he provided absolutely no counters to the points I made. In fact he directed the discussion away from Maxwell and legal “personhood” instead.

Of all of the lecture videos made of Jordan Maxwell, Gary provided a link to the only one I’ve ever seen that was made for the sole purpose of discrediting an excellent researcher.

I’m sure we can locate a video made by Icke’s enemies as well. This is a common method used to discredit very credible researchers and Jordan Maxwell is one of the best.

When reporting facts, it is not the job of the researcher or reporter to locate solutions for the problems uncovered. That is the job of those who receive the information. To discredit a researcher for not also finding solutions makes no sense.

Al, what can I say, except that you are seriously deluded? If, after watching Jordan Maxwell, himself say that he has been a personal friend of Manly P. Hall and and admirer of Helena Blavatsky you are still not convinced that what I am saying is true, then what would convince you? Video footage of Maxwell and Lucifer shaking hands?

Frankly, Al, you represent the hardcore devotees who are never going to awaken to the truth, even when it is right in front of you. You will demand “proof” of everything and when it is presented, you will still deny it. There is no point in arguing with you about it, as you are incapable of rational thought.

“To lump theosophists [“any of various forms of philosophical or religious thought based on a mystical insight into the divine nature”] and luciferians into one bunch is a rather huge leap.”

Not.

Try reading The Secret Doctrine, Vol. II
page 243
and
page 513

HPB comes right and says plainly that Lucifer was “higher and older than Jehovah. She further expressed in her “great work” that Satan, under different god-names, is really an allegory of “Good, and Sacrifice, a God of Wisdom.” Blavatsky believed that Satan was the only god of earth, “is one with the Logos,” and is the “cosmic reflection of God.”. Blavatsky also equated Lucifer with Jesus Christ.

Maybe the video example of Maxwell was not the best. There are many other video and audios of JM. He rattles off one “fact” after another. Some of the word derivations he gives are absolute nonsense and there is no proof anywhere for their factuality. He may give some good information, and may give many facts. His tone is sort of what I call “ain’t it awful.” (Alan Watt does basically the same routine, and he too employes the “ain’t it awful” tone.) He rattles off all this earth shattering, you don’t stand a chance and you never did, “information.”

He never mentions that there is hope or any way out. We just need to become informed and then face and accept the overwhelming reality and then acquiesce.

I am not as quick as Gary Rea to place Alex Jones in with Watt and Maxwell, though he does employ pretty much the same routine of rattling off how big and bad and pervasive all the new world evil is. Alex Jones does throw in a few positive notes and tries to convey what people can do, but it looks sort of perfunctory to me and only a response to people constantly complaining that he never offers any positive solutions or actions people can take. But still the “there’s no way out” tone is not near as strong in Jones as it is in Watt and Maxwell. All 3 of the guys, of course, do put out some good factual information.

I really do think that Watt and Maxwell are not simply agnostics. They both probably really subscribe to the belief system set out by Madame Blavatsky and Koot Hoomi.

Lots of misleading statements and a suspicious video clip in this article, which was obviously written to discredit Jordan Maxwell.

The video linked titled “whom he has also publicly acknowledged great admiration for” was of such poor quality, no conclusions could reached. Jordan’s voice and the video were so far off sync that I became suspicious it had been significantly doctored. Apparently his voice came from a radio interview however, the name or voice of the host was not revealed so no one could attempt to verify the validity of the clips of the interview – that were obviously highlighted and taken out of context to make some point.

These statements at face value don’t support any conclusions:
“That Jordan Maxwell admires such thinkers implies that, he, himself, shares in their delusional thinking. In fact, his own ideas are derived from their influence.”

“Bailey is yet another of those admired by Jordan Maxwell. This is not a simple accusation of ‘guilt by association’, for it is the ideas of these people that Maxwell has derived his own thinking from.”

Jordan Maxwell has been researching literally volumes upon volumes of information for at least 40 yrs. It is not even remotely possible to claim that the several people cited are responsible for Maxwell’s ‘thinking.

“Aside from Maxwell’s connections to Theosophists and Luciferians, there is the fact that much of what he says is simply false.”

To lump theosophists [“any of various forms of philosophical or religious thought based on a mystical insight into the divine nature”] and luciferians into one bunch is a rather huge leap. I just heard Jordan Maxwell on Rense the other night. His position remains that much of what is taught in organized religion has been used to manipulate and/or control the masses. Many agree with him. To say that “much of what he says is simply false” based on Gary’s inability to verify ONE of Jordan’s claims is totally unfair and cannot be allowed to go unchallenged. Jordan does an excellent job of educating the public on both the occult and the REALTY that we are currently living under admiralty law that does indeed consider humans to be chattel property of CORP USA.

Everything Jordan has done his entire life has been to educate the public on the dangers the New World Order represents. While Alex Jones, David Icke, Allan Watts, and Jordan Maxwell may not be perfect, they are all doing the same thing and all desire to help society wake up and prevent a 1984 world from becoming our future.

This article was written with the soul purpose of smearing Jordan Maxwell and misleading the readers about legal ‘personhood’. Here is a link (not provided by the author) to an interview with Jordan Maxwell by George Noory.

Perhaps people need to hear what he has to say before they make up their minds. It is true that many will not agree with Jordon’s religious point of view, however they should not throw the baby out with the bathwater. He has a lot of good information on the occult and our legal duality.

I agree that some, if not most of what Jones puts out is useful information. That’s why I continue to keep some of the most essential material (such as “End Game”) on my website, as it makes a good intro for those who are just waking up.

On the other hand, I now recognize that it’s not the banksters, nor Israel and the Mossad who are at the pinnacle of the NWO, as Jones would have us believe. I never paid much attention to those who believe Jones is in league with the “Jews” because Jones always mentioned them, contrary to what others have said. But, it doesn’t make any difference either way because the Ashkenazi Jews who run Israel aren’t at all at the top of the pyramid. As you know now, from reading my articles, it’s the Pope and the Jesuits who must be at the top and if you think of this in terms of the fact that the Catholic Church grew out of the union between the last vestiges of the Roman Empire and the early Christian church in Rome, and that this papal power has continued unabated to the present, it makes perfect sense. But, of course, it’s not JUST the Vatican, but the Vatican, the world’s monarchs, the so-called “Jews,” the banksters, the secret societies, and so on. As it has been for centuries, the conspiracy is run by a network within a network within a network, like a Russian doll puzzle. So, as you say, it’s useless to point at any one group. It’s all of them, acting in consort with one another.

Indeed, the profit motive is a bid factor in Jones & Co., but it’s not the whole enchilada, either. There is an agenda being served by all this and it’s one that is shared by Maxwell, Icke, Watt and the rest of them, even Jesse Ventura. We can speculate on what that agenda is – and I have, as you know – but, admittedly, I don’t really have all the facts. Just pieces of the puzzle. The picture it creates suggests several things at once, so one must make an educated guess with what there is available.

As for the “sovereignty movement,” here’s what I’ve had to say about that:

I just became aware of your writings today with the reading of the piece about Maxwell.

Then I went back through all your articles and read one article about your “waking up” to what I refer to as “Jones, Inc.” I refer to Alex Jones and Dr. Steven Jones team on 9-11 truth as “the Jones Boys.

I live in Austin TX and have been listening to and reading pariot and alternative media stuff for 12 years. Alex lives right down the street from me and I watched him when he first had a public access TV show in the late 90s. Alex has become sort of a persona non grata here locally. He has gotten just was too obnoxious.

Right now, I just appreciate some of the good info Alex has given me and I just leave the rest. Many people think of him as a “Zionist” shill and Kapners RealZionistNews website has several, unconvincing, articles about Alex’s “Jew” connections. To me, there is truth to this way of thinking but no way do I identify this as the top of the pyramid.

I think we all go down useless rabbit trails when we claim to finally and definitely identified exactly who it is that is at the top of the pyramid. People get satisfaction in that. I don’t. Only God knows whose running this Luciferian show. I am a person of faith so I do not get a fatalistic or “I give up” attitude about all this.

I just try to read about and think clearly about all aspects of the whole darn pyramind. It is also wrong to not speak about any or many aspects of the huge evil problem.

But Alex is all about Alex. Also about selling stuff and making his “infowars empire” bigger. At this point, I do not see him as working for any subversive groups are having some subversive agenda, but I am still reading. To me, he just looks like some egotistical, way too full of himself, huckster. He used to be funny and nice when he first started out.

As an example, I think the reason Jones Inc. talked up the states and their “sovereignty movements” was because it sells. It is good marketing product for his shows. He can have something postive to point to for his listeners so he can direct them to working for the “tenth amendment resolutions” in their respective states. That keeps people listening and feeling that he really is trying to tell people what they can “DO”, to save America and their freedom.

Those resolutions were weak and toothless from the get go and did not have the force of law. Several politicians these days talk the freedon / soveriegnty talk but do it just for votes and more money and power.

Have you seen all the end-times broadcasting on what is supposed to be the History Channel? People are being conditioned to accept what is being planned as though it is some supernatural phenomena. Life after people? Life after 2012? All the cop shows on the other channels openly using surveillance of the most invasive kind..Rights and liberties being “bent” to catch “the bad guy”. Homes broken into and searched with no warrant……and people just sit and watch like nothing is wrong with that picture. I am getting rid of my TV service. Between the ads, fake news, and these other things….I can see no purpose in having it. Marti

Marti, the thing is that these people know the America public has been brainwashed and dumbed down beyond belief. When the average American doesn’t know the difference between they’re, their and there and can’t find China on a map of the world, they’re susceptible to whatever b.s. comes along. Even the supposedly well-educated among us don’t have enough critical thinking skills to discern that what they see on TV is a contrived mixture of facts and lies presented to keep their minds from perceiving reality.

I used the term “truth movement” only because it has become a popular term within the “movement” itself and is, thus, recognizable to those who identify with it. It’s these people I’m trying to reach. I could have also used “patriot movement,” but, in either case, I don’t believe there really is any “movement” there, to speak of; just a gaggle of radio listeners scattered around the country and the world, who have bought into the popular delusion that they are some monolithic horde that is going to “take back America.”

I’ve been accused, myself, of being one of those who are supposedly attacking the “movement” from within but the truth is that I was once a defender of Alex Jones, et al – until I began to investigate what his detractors were saying about him and found that they were right.

As far as this “movement” being any sort of united force goes, like I said, it’s a delusion. Even if it were true, there is no way to physically unite that many millions of people in one place at the same time for whatever purpose they might have in mind – and that’s a good thing, as it would only make them all vulnerable to infiltration and attack.

Indeed, for those of us with a mind of our own, learning about the New World Order from these people has been a boon to resisting it. Unfortunately, we’re only being fed half-truths and the people at the top of the pyramid are obscured from view, thus we wind up attacking their lower level minions, instead.

After listening to him and viewing several film clips….i have to agree. Not quite running with a full load, although on first glance he does seem to be on to something. Should have known he was full of dust…..Otherwise Jones wouldn’t tolerate him and have him back on repeatedly.

I think this is a good article. I always recognized Maxwell on the few times I heard him on the Alex Jones show as not only throwing out one false statement after another. His whole presentation style is pure flim-flam.

I agree that the result of listening to Maxwell’s utterances results in the listener believing “that his very life is nothing more than a commodity to the elite and that their power over our lives is absolute and inescapable.”

The end result of listening to Icke or Watt is the same also, I think. They are all “New Agers” of some form or another.

I cannot say the same yet about Alex Jones, but I will look forward to your article about him. I do not listen to him much anymore and never did much anyway. He has gone “Hollywood” to the detriment of his credibility.

I do not like the term “truth movement” as it seems like a collectivization of people who have, a vary degrees, realized that much of what we have been told about most everything has not been true. But the wonderful concept of “truth” is getting dragged through the dirt when you see all these “truth movement” groups start clawing and each other and splitting from within.

Telling how the new world order will be could be a good thing if one is adhering to good thinking and fairmindedness with no big biases or agendas.

I believe in God and I believe Jesus Christ is God incarnate and that it is only through accepting and following Christ that I have a shot at heaven.