Blink. Blink. Blink Blink. Blink. Blink Blink Blink. Blink…

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The Mudflats poll had “compulsive blinking” as the number 3 most annoying McCain-ism of the debate, after the “hideous death grin” and Joe the plumber.

True, the blinking was incessant throughout, but this one particular moment was the blinking highlight of the debate. McCain has been asking over the course of two debates now, for the dollar amount of the fine that Barack Obama would impose on small business owners for not providing health care. He finally got his answer. “Zero.” This apparently unanticipated answer caused a screeching sound in McCain’s brain that almost got picked up by the microphones, causing him to shift from “smug” to “deer in the headlights” in 1.8 seconds flat.

The outcome, for those of you keeping track at home was a whopping 54 blinks in 28 seconds. That’s almost two full blinks per second, nevermind the untold mental whiplash for McCain. Just for fun, try watching the video above and blink along.

409 responses

My eyeballs hurt now 😦
All I could think as McCain’s expression suddenly turned, was “He’s panicking right now. He has absolutely no idea what to say next. His argument for the rest of the question time just got shot to shreds.”

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Democrat G (formerly "G")(12:57:55) :

What is with McCain’s CHEEK being swollen and not being able to open his mouth on one side….

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Chaco(13:01:26) :

He couldn’t open his mouth on that side because Sarah was hiding in there, making out with “Joe the Plumber”

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Meat Notgay Hussein(13:02:14) :

kidsquid (12:56:34)

But Joe Biden is on Leno’s show tonight. I’m conflicted.

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Chaco(13:02:54) :

By the way, I don’t know how many of you saw the debate on HDTV. Let me tell you, McCain’s a scary sight with all that detail. He looked like he was made out of rotting plastic.

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Newfoundland Dogs Rule(13:03:45) :

The “Deer in the Headlights” look has been around for awhile. In the videos from Keating Five hearings he has it. Every time he’s caught off balance, that’s his look. The blinking . . . maybe he’s making up for Palin’s not blinking.

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Susan in PA(13:04:08) :

He even looks like he’s breathing harder after the shock of hearing Obama’s answer – great video!

~Goalie Sanka That One Hussein

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Halcrow(13:06:33) :

Can’t post the link (shoot, cain’t hardly post nothin’ no more).

Times OnlineOctober 16, 2008

Comment: John McCain has missed his last chance
This was the Republican candidate’s final chance to alter the dynamics of the presidential campaign in his favour. But repeating character attacks on Barack Obama wasn’t the way to do it

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Halcrow(13:07:06) :

Can’t post the link (shoot, cain’t hardly post nothin’ no more). Any way to fix it?

Times OnlineOctober 16, 2008

Comment: John McCain has missed his last chance
This was the Republican candidate’s final chance to alter the dynamics of the presidential campaign in his favour. But repeating character attacks on Barack Obama wasn’t the way to do it

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Augie(13:07:39) :

It was so satisfying to see that smug look wiped from his face!

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kidsquid(13:07:55) :

2Meat Notgay Hussein (13:02:14)

On Leno, Biden will talk, on Letterman, Letterman will talk! I want to hear what Letterman is going to say.

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Halcrow(13:08:29) :

Times OnlineOctober 16, 2008

Comment: John McCain has missed his last chance
This was the Republican candidate’s final chance to alter the dynamics of the presidential campaign in his favour. But repeating character attacks on Barack Obama wasn’t the way to do it

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kidsquid(13:09:33) :

2Meat Notgay Hussein:

Biden’s Republican counterpart, Sarah Palin, has appeared on no late night shows. But she’s practically been the star of Saturday’s late night mainstay “Saturday Night Live” as portrayed by Tina Fey.

But don’t look for her on tonight’s “SNL’s Weekend Update Thursday” (NBC, 9 p.m.), which is expected to be taken up by a one-day turnaround of Wednesday night’s Obama-McCain debate. (But who will play Bob Schieffer? Chris Parnell again?)

From The Times
October 16, 2008
‘Obama looks like a terrorist but I’ll vote for him anyway’

Tim Reid in Waverly, Ohio

As a beautiful dawn breaks over the foothills of the Appalachian Mountains, lighting up the tiny Ohio town of Waverly — where black people were once not allowed to live — David Risner stands puffing on a hand-rolled cigarette, one hand thrust into his camouflage hunting jacket.

“I ain’t gonna lie to you,” he said. “A lot of people around here don’t want Obama because of his colour. And it’s his name that bothers me. It’s Muslim.”

The 44-year-old truck driver took a sip of coffee and added: “Despite all that, I’m pushing more toward him because of the economy. Fuel prices are killing us. To me, McCain is just for the rich people. A lot of us are reconsidering Obama because we like what he’s saying on the economy.”

A hundred yards away Michelle Cantrell, 23, was smoking a cigarette outside a drug recovery centre, where she is being treated for addiction to painkillers…”

This was the Republican candidate’s final chance to alter the dynamics of the presidential campaign in his favour. But repeating character attacks on Barack Obama wasn’t the way to do it.

Gerard Baker, US Editor, in Hempstead, New York

Wednesday night’s third presidential debate was probably John McCain’s last real chance to alter the dynamics of an election campaign that has been trending decisively against him for the last few weeks.

He didn’t do it. He might, in fact, have made an already difficult situation for him worse, by an ill-advised decision to repeat some of his recent character attacks on Barack Obama that polls have shown are doing his campaign no good at all…”

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Halcrow(13:22:01) :

IMO, the rest of the world is ever-so-desperate for a change from Bush’s disastrous leadership and policies.

This was the Republican candidate’s final chance to alter the dynamics of the presidential campaign in his favour. But repeating character attacks on Barack Obama wasn’t the way to do it.

Gerard Baker, US Editor, in Hempstead, New York

Wednesday night’s third presidential debate was probably John McCain’s last real chance to alter the dynamics of an election campaign that has been trending decisively against him for the last few weeks.

He didn’t do it. He might, in fact, have made an already difficult situation for him worse, by an ill-advised decision to repeat some of his recent character attacks on Barack Obama that polls have shown are doing his campaign no good at all.

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Crust Scramble - SouthGA(13:22:52) :

I believe Obama wants to be President to genuinely help the people of this country. And McCain wants to be President to prove he’s not a loser. Guess what, McCain, you’re a loser.

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Halcrow(13:22:57) :

IMO, the rest of the world is ever-so-desperate for a change from Bush’s disastrous leadership and policies.

Times Online

October 16, 2008

Comment: John McCain has missed his last chance.

This was the Republican candidate’s final chance to alter the dynamics of the presidential campaign in his favour. But repeating character attacks on Barack Obama wasn’t the way to do it.

Gerard Baker, US Editor, in Hempstead, New York

Wednesday night’s third presidential debate was probably John McCain’s last real chance to alter the dynamics of an election campaign that has been trending decisively against him for the last few weeks.

He didn’t do it. He might, in fact, have made an already difficult situation for him worse, by an ill-advised decision to repeat some of his recent character attacks on Barack Obama that polls have shown are doing his campaign no good at all.

IMO, the rest of the world is ever-so-desperate for a change from Bush’s disastrous leadership and policies.

Times Online
October 16, 2008
Comment: John McCain has missed his last chance.

This was the Republican candidate’s final chance to alter the dynamics of the presidential campaign in his favour. But repeating character attacks on Barack Obama wasn’t the way to do it.

Gerard Baker, US Editor, in Hempstead, New York

Wednesday night’s third presidential debate was probably John McCain’s last real chance to alter the dynamics of an election campaign that has been trending decisively against him for the last few weeks.

He didn’t do it. He might, in fact, have made an already difficult situation for him worse, by an ill-advised decision to repeat some of his recent character attacks on Barack Obama that polls have shown are doing his campaign no good at all.

judi hussein that one Obama (13:17:27) :
“Sarah said they wouldn’t blink while in office. Maybe he is getting his ‘fix’ of blinking in case he wins (which he won’t)”

It could be empathy blinking – after having watched Sarah go so long without blinking – he might be dry-eyed. Another theory says he’s using the POW blink code and messaging “Help get me out of here!” whenever he’s caught in awkward moment. Then there is is the alien reptile theory – because he flicks his tongue and blinks a lot – has anybody noticed flies around him when he does this?

Democrat G – McCain had surgery for cancer on that side of his face. It left him with a puffy area.

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HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin(13:33:20) :

STILL TIME TO SIGN UP UNTIL 10AM FRIDAY MORNING !!!

Folks, remember anyone who wants to attend the GREATER PITTSBURGH MUDFLATS MINI-MUDSTOCK get together at 6PM FRIDAY OCTOBER 17th at Rolands in the Strip District in Pittsburgh has now extended time until 10AM FRIDAY MORNING to contact me at HamletsMillMudFlats@gmail.com for a reservation. We have added more people today! Yes! At least 3 hours of LOVE and PEACE with the local ever growing Mudtribe!

Have fun PA Mudflatters! I’ll be with you in spirit. Hope someone sends me pics! AKM

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eajphd Molten Contra Palin(13:33:58) :

Lulu (13:27:12) :
“Thera P wrote: “GOP. The Party that Blinks!””

This could be a riff on the Gross Ogling Perverts. That seems to happen a lot around Sarah – which raises the question does he blink so much when he’s away from her because his eye get dry from all that staring when he’s around her?

Dave’s show should be good – wonder if McCain can find a small child to mitigate Dave’s response.

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Tangle Jig Palin(13:35:38) :

Between the blinking and the tongue flicking in and out, it looks like a neurological disorder, (just call me Dr. Frist Palin).

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Marty Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter(13:36:04) :

AKM, this story was just too good.. I agree on your three items, but i’d put that pornographic grin of his as number 1. If you walked into a police station and that repulsive face was on a wanted poster, you’d ask the desk sargeant if he was wanted for some sort of child molestation. He has that creepy-crawly look that makes my skin crawl.

The blinking was almost funny.. Experts have different opinions, but many say it’s a mental tick that happens when people are thinking and calculating lies.

Joe the Plumber is going to screw McYellowTeeth to the wall, he was pretty badly vetted.

You also left off the finger quotes. which may be his worst moment in the debate.

All in all, you’re getting the Pitbull back soon.. Sorry for that.

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judi hussein that one Obama(13:36:13) :

@Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout) (12:20:43) :

Now that you mention I did notice flies and then they disappeared just as he was licking his l.. Oh my God. He is a lizard!

Today, yet another yelled KILL HIM and he shook his head a little and went on and said I want to discuss the economy, yet only 12 hours after the debate, he didn’t repudiate the comment, he didn’t stop his speech or have the guy kicked out of the audience. He just made a passive response.

McYellowteeth came across ‘with the hideous death grin’ was just flawless..!

How’s the mudflat in the blog race?

It’s in the “Top 3” but they won’t tell you who is in which place, nor how many votes each of the top 3 has…. I’ll let you know when I hear something. 😀 AKM

OH PS… when you look at the photo montage of Calvin as McLizard, please take note of the serendipitous reference to where he’s going to run away ….

I’m laughing wildly…. sometimes that is best in these circumstances.

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reveur1147 "That One" aka Crop Schooner Hussein Palin(13:47:12) :

Hiya, Mudpuppies 😉 This is kinda/sorta off-topic, but I just VOTED AGAIN for Mudflats !! Let’s keep those votes rolling in for the BEST political blog !!

I am soooooo hyper now re: the election, that I can’t stand it ! I keep trying to turn my hyper state of mind into positive action — do something on behalf of the campaign when I can — but I can’t stand the wait ! It’s so much worse than waiting for Santa ever was 😦

btw, did anyone catch McCain’s 2 references to autism during the debate last night ? The first mention he made, I didn’t give it much thought. But, when he went back to his point regarding “special needs” a second time, he then referenced autism again … and how Sarah Palin certainly understands better than most the needs of those children. Does McCain not realize the difference between autism and Downs’ Syndrome ? Or, is he not aware of Trig’s diagnosis ? Or both ? Not too impressive, either way !

@angryxer, ditto all of your comments — and then some !

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Crust Scramble - SouthGA(13:48:44) :

Damn, Go See Alice, that’s really scary. Antipsychotic drugs? Looks like he’s a textbook case. Wish one of our doctor mudpuppies would weigh in on this. Shouldn’t that have come out in his medical records? He’s a psycho? He acts like one.

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Marty Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter(13:49:08) :

Judi, i agree.. he already hates all things Repug and doesn’t hide his feelings and he really, really hates mcgrumpy.. should be incredible TV.. way better than the debate..

I think Leno can take the night off 🙂 Lettermans ratings will rock.

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Richard(13:49:30) :

McCain and Palin:

Blinky and Winky.

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Crust Scramble - SouthGA(13:49:54) :

Erin (13:43:02) :

AKM, I can’t see the video. In fact, I haven’t been able to see any of the videos you’ve posted.
——————-
Erin, I was having the same issues recently. Had to restart my computer.

Unbelievable! If he stayed on his ranch until November 4th he probably would be better off…he’d do himself less damage!

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Independent in AZ(13:54:10) :

off topic…

for you keyboard researchers out there on Joe the Plumber…

what we seem to know as “truths”:

– “Joe the Plumber” is Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher, age 34 and has a son and living parents. He lives on Shrewsbury Street in Springfield Township, OH.

– Registered Republican and voted in Mar 2008 primaries vs. Faux news says: “Joe the plumber is the nation’s every man — embodying the American dream and representing the swing voter Barack Obama and John McCain want to reach.”

– Doesn’t make $250,000 annualy but makes assumptions and questioned Obama about the impact on his “future plans” to purchase a plumbing business (assumed this to be current employer) under an Obama/Biden administration.

– Has an OH state income tax lien filed against him for under $2K

– He said he was born in the Toledo area, lived until he was 13 in the Florida Panhandle area, went to Springfield High School, and then entered the U.S. Air Force. He was stationed at an Air Force base in Alaska from 1992 until 1995. He said he was honorably discharged. Mr. Wurzelbacher also said he lived in Arizona from 1997 until 2000.

Opinions attributed to Joe in his own words during his “15 minutes of fame” moments to date:

-doesn’t believe in social security
-calls Barrack’s taxing plans socialism
-claims he is in process of purchasing his employer’s business
-claims he has discussed at some point taking over his employer’s business.
-joked Obama is like Sammy Davis Jr.
-troubled by his interpretation of Obama’s “spread the wealth” response
-“I’m not sorry that we’re in Iraq”
-“Barack Obama’s tax plan infuriates me.”

Probable connections

Outside non sourced genealogy database reflects a Samuel Joe Wuzelbacher married to a woman with one child born circa 1995. Names are given but I don’t think it fair to pull them into Joe’s brush with fame. The names do tie Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher to Tucson, Pima County, Arizona and Mesa, Maricopa County, Arizona and to the Ohio address and names available for public viewing. Divorce records also exist in Ohio DR19970476 for Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher with same spousal name, note of accusations with dismissal status. Not a legal scholar to give justice to the divorce docket sheet.

Latest rumor? Anyone see a final connection or facts disproving (sp?) a connection?

Joe says he just hopes he doesn’t embarrass himself. “Right now I’m flabbergasted with this. I hope I’m not making too much of a fool of myself and get a message out there — learn for yourself,” he said.

– Joe Wurzelbacher will appear on FOX News Channel’s “Huckabee” program in an exclusive primetime interview Saturday (Oct 18th) at 8 p.m. ET. The show will re-air on Sunday night, also at 8 p.m. ET. Wurzelbacher will appear on the program with his son and father. (Cavuto, that business channel wannabe) had him on yesterday BEFORE the debate)

My Dad had radiation on his temple for skin cancer, and it caused chronic dry eye. It was intensely painful for my Dad, and treatment after treatment failed to help at all. If his eyes weren’t full of goey gel ointment, he was blinking rapidly.

I suspect this is McCain’s problem. In itself, it’s not a symptom of cancer returning, but it’s possibly a sign of aggressive radiation causing necrosis around the tear ducts.

My Dad also had a neck dissection just like McCain had a few years ago. His face was swollen at the cheekbone for several months, but his neck was caved in deeply. McCain’s surgery may have been focused higher than my Dad’s, but it sure has a lot of similarities.

My Dad died from complications related to the radiation on his temple – necrosis caused a seizure and he deteriorated from there. It was a horrible, painful death I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy, and when I see McCain’s symptoms mimic my Dad, it upsets me greatly.

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BigSlick THAT ONE Hussein Clamp Noodle Palin(13:54:34) :

McCain’s blinking is code, it was his signal for God to begin The Rapture early and take him out of that uncomfortable place.

However, God ignores McCain ever since poor Johnny sold his soul to Satan. And picking Palin as running mate meant there was no going back on the deal.

I watched this debate streamed online via MSNBC while chatting on the Obama Sign watch web site. I actually started getting ill because McCain’s constant blinking. So I would flip to the other browser window (the Obama Sign Watch) to block viewing him and seeing only the outer edge of the streaming live video.
When Obama would speak, I’d jump over to the live stream video and watch, but if Mccain came into view, I had to put my finger over his eyes.. all the while trying to chat in the other browser window! Talk about multi tasking! LOL

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shell from Ohio(14:02:53) :

regarding the reference to autism last night, I said the same thing to my husband. Does he think autism and down syndrome are one in the same? Does he even know what he’s talking about? I almost felt embarrassed for the old coot. …almost……

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whichferret(14:03:11) :

I think one of my favorite moments was when McCain nearly went over backwards and his eyes got as big as dinner plates. Don’t even remember what the topic was, but it was just priceless. Was pretty certain McBush was gonna completely lose it after that. Of course he did start rambling nonsense after that so maybe something burst. No foreign oil!!!! Except for Canadian cause I guess they are just like us only some of them speak french? Oh right that pipeline thingy…..silly me how could I forget *blush*

Which Hussein Ferret Proud Democrat Voter Stuck in a Red State

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phoebe(14:03:40) :

@Halcrow

Nice post…..is small town America becoming “OurTown”. Are the duped starting to smarter up…….I do hope so.

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NY Dem(14:06:16) :

Firefox here too – love it ! Just got the 3.0 upgrade and everything works great. See the videos with no problem.

I will NEVER go back to Internet Explorer );-

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Blue Idaho(14:07:15) :

I think McCain should check out U tube. There are many of his angry raciest rally supporters that he is sooooo proud of. It is really pretty disturbing and more than just a few fringe people.

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enjay AKA Turbine Yukon(14:11:12) :

Just saw this on the Huffington post

Could be an issue if McC does win

“”””””A charitable characterization of AIP might be “quirky down-home Alaska politics.” However, the security processes that govern access to our defense and national security institutions might not look so kindly on Todd Palin’s past political associations. Indeed, if Todd Palin were applying for a job in the US government or at a contractor that required access to sensitive classified information — a security clearance — he would very likely be ineligible. “”””””

Experience talking here-Unless some security regulations were waived he would not even be allowed into restricted areas of the White House (The parts excluded from the tourist tour.) That would sure put a crimp in Sarah’s marriage if she would ever get to be President. Birth control? or haven’t they figured out what causes children yet?

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whichferret(14:17:02) :

@Linda

Thanks for the link. Knew there had to be something fishy. Specially since he said that he had heard both proposals and was still going for McBush’s….Wow, REALLY? Which one weren’t you really listening to then?

Ya know the thing about plants? Just like other vegetation they generally aren’t too bright. Seriously this guy let himself be ALL over the news calling out Obama on TAXES knowing full well that he OWES the state of Ohio a sizeable sum of back taxes himself. Really seriously we have got to stop people talking about getting the COMMON MAN into the WHITE HOUSE!!!!!! The COMMON MAN is Joe the Plummer and swwnbn who prove time and time again that they are not only corrupt, but really bad at even hiding it. Cheney at least has been pulling strings for DECADES before people started really putting all of the pieces together. And not every politician is dirty, that is why it is news when they catch the ones that are.

Let’s just hope that because the numbers are soooo amazing this time that it will be really really obvious if “they” try to steal the election this time.

Wow, I got a headache trying to blink along! I was so interested in what Obama had to say but couldn’t concentrate the entire debate because my eyes were always drawn to McCain’s blinking!!!! Hmmm…maybe it’s a last resort tactic he is pulling to try to get voters to pay more attention to him!??

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Chaco(14:19:02) :

The McCain Pailin slime machine marches on. I guess they just hired Josef Goebbels as their new propaganda minister:

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Trini(14:21:34) :

@Tessa. Great pic Tessa! It looks like he’s going for BO’s a$$!

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OMG!!!(14:22:06) :

I’m so glad I wasn’t the only one fixated on the weird tongue movement, and his background snorting. I was laughing my a&& off! I kept asking my husband, “did he just snort again?”
The other thing I was wondering about, why was he talking about Autism and making reference to Palin? Does he not know that her child has Down’s Syndrome? Since she has been gone most of his early life, she probably doesn’t know much about that either!!
Go Obama

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katiebegood(14:22:33) :

Meat Notgay Hussein (13:02:14) :

kidsquid (12:56:34)

But Joe Biden is on Leno’s show tonight. I’m conflicted.

My DVR can record two shows at once. I’m stoked. I can’t stay up that late to watch either of them, so I’m recording them.

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Blue Idaho(14:22:46) :

Chaco- Do you think this is from the McCain Campaign or is it a joke.

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WV Democrat(14:23:28) :

I have posted this before but after seeing the London Times story above, I need to post it again. This is the rally I protested last Sunday.

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Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein(14:24:26) :

I’m looking all over for the video of Obama pumpkins. I thought it was on Yes We Carve, but they don’t have a video, I think. Someone here said she made it, and made use of a pumpkin festival nearby, with a high scaffold filled with pumpkins. It had a great story line, too. I so want to find it. If you can help, thanks.

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WV Democrat(14:24:47) :

@ OMG!!!

I understand that one of Sarah’s sisters has a child with autism. Apparently McGramps got them confused.

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Forty Watt Hussein(14:28:21) :

@ Go See Alice (13:34:29) :
a/k/a Copper Hussein Lipstick

“I’m a lawyer,not a doctor or nurse, so hope maybe a health care professional- or a mental health professional might weigh in . The excessive blinking and the frequent extensions of McAin’ts tongue make me wonder if over the years he wasn’t prescribed old-school antipsychotic meds and what we are seeing is a manifestation of EPS or tardive dyskinesia.”

Before I read your post, an MD had just finished saying to me that McCain’s strange grimaces could be caused by antipsychotic drugs. Haldol was mentioned as an old drug which is often given to Seniors to calm them down.

Speculation but interesting.

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judi hussein that one Obama(14:28:37) :

WV Democrat (14:23:28) :

That is really sick isn’t it..Never knew there were so many ignorant people running around.

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Kat Loves Wolves Hussein(14:30:32) :

Thera P,

GOP. The party where one blinks and the other one doesn’t.

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Lin Hussein(14:30:57) :

@OMG!!!
I noticed the tongue thing too…it grossed me out. I also had the same reaction to the snorts. I was afraid I was the only one who noticed it!

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SoCal Gal(14:36:11) :

YouTube Pumpkin video:

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McPalin McPain(14:37:24) :

My friends and I were cracking up at all that blinking….like a doll with broken eye sockets…I just saw a video by an evangelical woman…FOR OBAMA…CNN picked it up from her blog. Please watch and pass around!!!!

LOL I loved what you wrote, I actually laughed out loud!! Someone on CNN actually counted his blinks for the hour and a half he was on and it was over 3000!! He is the worldest biggest blinker!!

Man, his looks were so annoying too…that should have been on your poll. and his cheeks look like he’s hiding Palin in there…..maybe it’s actually her talking!! He is certainly trying to sound like her!!

I am a nurse and therapist and if it was tardive dyskinesia from anti-psychotics, I think the tongue thrusting would be more pronounced. Most of the drugs that caused the EPS or tardive dyskinesia have been replaced by more effective drugs with fewer side effects. If they wanted to calm him down, I am assuming he would be given an anti-anxiety agent. Although we are pretty sure on here that he is crazy, I don’t think he has schizophrenia. I am more inclined to think that he is on meds for something that cause him to feel dried out (allergies?) which coupled with contacts, anxiety and a little allergen may contribute to the blinking and lip licking etc. Or maybe he does have some damage from radiation for the melanoma– did he have radiation or just surgery?

That will be $4000 for the consultation ( I am remodeling the bathroom) Thanks so much also.

you can actually see mccain’s brain as he realizes that he has completely misunderstood barack obama’s healthcare proposal.

how much do you want to bet that a large part of the shrieking that mccain did later that night was “who the @@f let me go out there with the wrong attack on that one’s healthcare plan!

through that thin spot in mccain’s hair, in the video you can see a tiny guy on a bike pedaling furiously suddenly try to reverse the direction of the pedals.

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Meat Notgay Hussein(14:49:51) :

katiebegood (14:22:33)

Wow, I need to upgrade – still using rabbit ears.

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karen marie(14:53:40) :

my favorite part?

obama: …. “zero” …

mccain: “Zero?”

he sounded like he was responding to an astonishingly low price on that new car!

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Forty Watt Hussein(14:54:04) :

I should clarify: When I said Haldol is given to Seniors to calm them down, that does not mean they are psychotic, but simply needing calming as, for example, if they are given to sudden angry outbursts. In situations where keeping the senior/candidate calm but functioning, anti-anxiety agents can be unreliable–either not working or over-working.

On the “zero” vid… I don’t have sound on my computer at work (good thing, or I’d get even less done than I do as it is), but I watched it anyway. What a riot! When you know what to look for, it’s easy to read Obama’s lips when he says “zero,” but I just watched for McLame’s expression to change, then went back to watch Obama’s lips. ROFLMAO!!!

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Aussie Puck Mule Hussein(14:57:29) :

I really enjoyed the insincere look on McCain’s face as he was whining to Obama about the Lewis comment.

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enjay AKA Turbine Yukon(14:58:07) :

I got it —
McC is BLINKING for Sarah –
since we know –
she doesn’t BLINK

Just spoke with my son (who lives in Austin) about last night’s debate. Good hearted soul that he is, he said for the first time he actually felt sorry for McC last night — that he was a befuddled senior who was totally clueless. On some level I agree. Or perhaps I’ve raised a compassionate child, more so than those on the right who don’t give a damn about anything except their own pocket books.

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Karen(14:59:55) :

OMG — did you catch the lizard tongue? THAT’s what makes him look like a reptile. Oh, and the waxy face made him look dead but re-animated. EEK!

16102008

Rapture Spenard Palin(15:00:07) :

hi everybody. I just called RNC headquarters about McCain’s new robocall. Once again McCain appears to be a big fat liar. Last night’s “I don’t care about a washed up terrorist” was just a waffle to cover McCain’s cowardice in facing Obama about Ayers. You can listen to the robo call on huffpost. If you feel compelled, like I did, to call RNC, go for it. Let’s fill their message machines and clog their phones with complaints.
202.863.8500

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karen marie(15:00:38) :

phoebe,

i wouldn’t worry too much about those robocalls at this point.

they’re just churning the same cr@p as before, and at this point not only do most people know it is just cr@p but the economy is so bad that people are voting for obama because they KNOW mccain = bush.

just everyone be sure to vote, even if you live in a blue state (like me), and offer a ride to a friend or relative (or two or three) if you can.

i’m going to have to stock up on streamers and noisemakers.

i look forward to laying on my floor in a state of exhausted giddiness on november 5, 2008.

like new year’s, christmas, my birthday, easter, thanksgiving, winning the lottery all in one package — a deliverance from the hell that has been “the bush years.”

16102008

MJC(15:00:41) :

The McCain campaign has its own questionable connections to bombers and assassins.

CBS has a blurb out on the Letterman show [http://wcbstv.com/topstories/john.mccain.late.2.842359.html]
Letterman let’s him off on his skipping out but grills him on Palin and Ayers

16102008

karen marie(15:03:23) :

Marty Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter,

i don’t think the question is will mcgrumpy walk off, i think the question is will mcgrumpy show up!

who’s running the pool?

16102008

kidsquid(15:04:47) :

I just watched the Obama motorcade go by. I thik he is off to an event with McCain and then, Bruce Springsteen & Billy Joel are playing at a big fundraiser for Obama at the Hammerstein Ballroom here in NYC

Go See Alice (13:34:29) :
a/k/a Copper Hussein Lipstick
I’m a lawyer,not a doctor or nurse, so hope maybe a health care professional- or a mental health professional might weigh in . The excessive blinking and the frequent extensions of McAin’ts tongue make me wonder if over the years he wasn’t prescribed old-school antipsychotic meds and what we are seeing is a manifestation of EPS or tardive dyskinesia.
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Nebraska Native AKA Froth Hussein Failin (14:42:12) :
I am a nurse and therapist and if it was tardive dyskinesia from anti-psychotics, I think the tongue thrusting would be more pronounced. +++++++++++++++++++++++++

Agreed. Think it is probably his personality. Look at the multiple expressions that seemed over the top.

I am 82 years old (83 in December). It’s time to hand the reigns over to the next generation and hope that we did a good job raising them. To Senator McCain I say, with love in my heart, sit down and shut up. You’re beginning to look like an ass and your answers sound like a cross between Barnie Fife and Floyd the Barber.

Oh I love this blog. My Mom is 82 years old and her name if Margaret and she will be 83 in December! She is voting Democrat for the first time in her life and loves Barack Obama because according to her, he’s the ‘cute’ one. She disliked Palin after one day.

She isn’t quite as fiesty as this Margaret and completely computer illiterate, but nonetheless, I emailed all my siblings with the link to this blog with the subject line…. “If Mom had a blog…”

This stuff is absolutely priceless!!!!

Look. I am going to say what everyone at CNN, CBS, ABC and NBC is thinking but is afraid to say. Governor Palin is a stupid, conniving bitch. And it’s not because she is a strong woman – I like strong women… worship them… It’s actually the opposite. She is a weak, pathetic woman who thinks big hair, winking, baby talk and self deprecation is somehow becoming of a woman who wants to lead the free world. My god, where is Margaret Thatcher when you need her!

But what really makes me mad is the hypocrisy. She claims to be a Washington outsider and yet is the worst kind of politician.

and I wish I had thought of this!

Who can turn the world on with her smile?
Who can take a nothing day and suddenly make it all seem worthwhile?

Well it’s NOT you girl…

If you don’t have time to read the whole blog, be sure to read this one…
“Sarah Palin is a Bitch… there I said it.”

Margaret is the best read on Palin I’ve read yet!

16102008

karen marie(15:07:09) :

wondering lake,

thanks so much for the info that the video issue is with firefox3.

i am using firefox and it must be 3 because i frequently have to close the browser and reopen it in order to run a video.

how do you go backwards with the browser version? do i just go to the firefox website and download version 2?

16102008

Mole Valdez Palin(15:07:14) :

I wish the election was tomorrow. I’m ready to vote and I want my “I voted” sticker.

16102008

ocliberal(15:07:18) :

Oops, I guess it’s Helen who does the posting, not Margaret. But still absolutely terrific stuff!

16102008

karen marie(15:12:42) :

as regards “joe the plumber,”

i would caution people not to jump to believe he was a “republican plant.”

republican he certainly seems to be, somewhat dishonest about his own situation when he spoke with obama, but he could not have known that he would end up in a conversation of that length and type with obama.

whatever else “joe the plumber” is (and it seems he is not a licensed plumber in his state), he is a private citizen of the united states and should be accorded the same respect that you would like to see accorded to yourself in a similar situation.

(i’m not suggesting that all discussion is “off limits,” just the stuff that goes over the edge which, imho, is the “republican plant” stuff)

It would just be so wonderful to see all of these people lose their jobs and be sued/prosecuted for their actions. I don’t see how it can happen though. The new administration will be so tied up trying to clean up messes–many that we don’t even know about yet, they won’t have time to take on the hundreds of prosecutions stemming from Bush years.

16102008

SoCal Gal(15:14:50) :

From one OC Liberal to the next…Thanks for reminding everyone this is great site too. But of course our Numero Uno is MudFlats. I’m addicted.

GO MUDPUPPIES…GOBAMA!

Love n Hugs to All…SoCaLiberal Gal

16102008

angryxer(15:15:21) :

Hey, Snoskred @ 14:42,

Actually, the Joe the Plumber link to Charles Keating has been debunked. Andrew Sullivan pulled his original link about it and listed the correction. Info here at Daily Kos

I got my (WA) absentee ballot in the mail this afternoon!!!!!! *YAY*!!!!!!!!!

16102008

Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(15:17:08) :

Wondering_Lake (13:54:22) :

My Dad had radiation on his temple for skin cancer . . . and when I see McCain’s symptoms mimic my Dad, it upsets me greatly.
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So sorry for your distress. As if this campaign isn’t troubling enough.

Melanoma is serious. And McCain has had it twice, most recently in February. Which is why docs are concerned and signing a petition for McCain to release his medical records. http://therealmccain.com/doctors/

16102008

nswfm(15:18:11) :

Wow on that Joe the Plumber guy, Celtic Diva. Saw him on the AM news shows and thought he was a plant, too.

Plumbing with out a license, how stupid. What happens when you have a major leak and you have no insurance, either, because you don’t have a license? Do you get one of the Keating Five to bail you out, or just other Americans?

The thing that totally irks me about Palin is no taxes, just big handouts from the Lower 48, AKA pork that McCain goes nuts over. Does he think net donor states like NY and CA which have their tax payers paying high tax rates should be building roads and bridges to knowwhere?

16102008

karen marie(15:18:29) :

katiebegood (14:22:33) :

Meat Notgay Hussein (13:02:14) :

kidsquid (12:56:34)

But Joe Biden is on Leno’s show tonight. I’m conflicted.

My DVR can record two shows at once. I’m stoked. I can’t stay up that late to watch either of them, so I’m recording them.

now, leno IS a public figure and so i have no compunction about publicly gossiping about HIS possible ill intentions.

leno has always, to me, given off a creepy republican flavor and so i avoid him (unless letterman or kimmel have a guest on who i can’t tolerate or leno has someone on who i want to see enough).

therefore, the speculation i toss out is that leno invited biden in order to provide a distraction so that fewer people tune in to letterman and mccain’s latest fiasco.

karen marie:
That’s what I did – just downloaded version 2.0 and installed it. I love Firefox, and this is the first bug I’ve experienced in four years. I expect they’ll fix it pretty quickly – I plan to upgrade to 3.0 in a few months once the bugs are worked out further.

Leno scrupulously avoids talking about his politics, but his wife is a Democratic activist. He said this week that he is a “fiscal conservative, but a social liberal.” I think that makes him pretty much a moderate, no matter which party he associates with. Nobody will admit to being a “fiscal liberal” (“oh yes, I just love to tax and spend”) so I’m not sure why people even bother to make the point about their fiscal conservatism.

Just saw your comment–thanks for coming back over. I’m glad I had that wrong.

16102008

Meat Notgay Hussein(15:26:08) :

karen marie (15:18:29

They are both going for ratings, I wonder who was booked first. I’ll watch both, Leno tonight ’cause NBC comes in better, then Dave on the computer tomorrow.

16102008

Karen(15:26:17) :

A comment on the Firefox video problem – it is a known bug with FF 3 and Adobe Flash. It was even discussed in a diary on Daily Kos the other day. Very, very annoying and it is also happening in Google’s Chrome browser. I had a couple of good days but now it’s back and it’s driving me crazy.

16102008

nswfm(15:27:39) :

Just watched the video–that is a lot of blinking.

16102008

Juneau Girl(15:28:40) :

Re: A REPUBLICAN PLANT Absolutely hysterical about ol’ Joe. How can they be so stupid!! God, you can’t make this stuff up. LOL

16102008

Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(15:28:51) :

Hey, do you guys think Palin believes God wanted her to be Mayor then Governor? And now believes He wants her to go even higher?

Just thinking cause of the W. commercial with Bush saying God wanted him to be President. If so, then God was playing chess. And was setting the board up for the first Black American President.

In violation of both law and tradition, the FBI and the DoJ leaked news of an investigation into ACORN today–one day after the Republican candidate announced his concerns about this group in a national debate. The House Judiciary Committee spanked them hard for this in a letter sent by Rep. John Conyers. It’s a shady practice. The Repubs pull this every election and try to get the electorate all worked up over voter fraud to justify their voter suppression efforts. The “investigations” are almost always dropped after the election, because they’ve served their purpose (making liberal and minorities look bad) and there is no evidence to support prosecutions. This is the crux of the US attorney firing scandal and it defies belief, that just after a stinging report about how improper that whole thing was, the DoJ would be up to the same thing again. I blogged in depth about the ACORN situation at: http://mickeymusing.vox.com/library/post/from-little-acorns-mighty-bs-grows.html for anyone who is interested.

16102008

Rapture Spenard Palin(15:31:36) :

I’m not phoebe and I’m not “worried” about the RNC robocall. Just grabbing an opportunity to annoy them and their volunteers. If I will call Bumblebee Tuna and tell them their solid albacore isn’t solid enough, and I call Hydroderm and tell them their wrinkle commercials are insulting, then I will certainly call the RNC and tell them they are doofuses. That’s just me. I enjoy it. And it generally annoys them too, which makes it even more fun.
Okay, so I’m unemployed and bored. I still vote.

16102008

Lulu(15:33:46) :

I just read on HuffPo that McCain took a helicopter from Phillly to NYC in order to show up today on Letterman.

I was hoping McCain would bail. But evidently, green concerns aside, he got there by hook or by crook, having a pilot turn a plane around in order to do so…

Not only is it upsetting to imagine McCain going through every indignity and painful episode my Dad experienced, I just really hate the idea of the country watching McCain’s health deteriorate. It would be a national tragedy and no doubt stall progress on several issues (and rightfully so if our President was gravely ill).

It’s all made worse by the idea of a power vulture like Palin being next in line.

McCain/Palin are just wrong for America’s future — McCain would have been a better President than Bush in the last 8 years, and Palin, well, she wouldn’t be on anyone’s ticket if it wasn’t for Bush’s evangelical cult-building.

16102008

OMG!!!(15:35:02) :

@Karen
Regarding the tongue thing, I was torn between thinking of a lizard, or Hanibal Lecture in “Silence of the Lamb” because he made that “slithering” sound that Hanibal made after he said “I do wish we could chat longer, but I’m having an old friend for dinner.” insert weird noise!! or better yet… “I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.” again insert noise.
Was I the only one on that path?

16102008

Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(15:36:55) :

Bad Voter Registration is not Voter Fraud.

I am thinking there have been less than a hundred voter fraud convictions since 2002 when hundreds of millions of votes have been cast.

The use of Voter Fraud to effect Voter Suppression and illegally impact elections is a strong theme in the DOJ firing of attorneys. . . “there isn’t even an agreed-upon definition of voter fraud, further complicating any debate over whether or not enough is being done to stop it.”

Whoops. Messed up the link for the pumpkin video. I’ll see if the direct URL will post:

16102008

angryxer(15:44:14) :

Thanks, Karen Marie! I do indeed intend to keep writing post-election, as hard as it is to imagine that day coming! (Such a Twilight-Zoney feel to life these days).

Your point about Joe the “Plumber” being a private citizen is well taken, though I wasn’t terribly kind about him today, once I found out that his claiming to be “undecided” was completely disingenuous. Not that he was a Republican plant, just that he didn’t bother to mention that he was a registered Republican. I don’t know if you saw the post I did, but among the things I quoted from the Jed Report was:

-Also at his press conference he said that he was sad when he found out he was born in Toledo because it meant he was a “Yankee.”

-He’s fond of calling Obama a socialist.

Anyone who has issues with being a Yankee raises a red flag or two for me. And while you could say just because he’s a Republican that doesn’t mean he would vote for McCain, well, after I saw him on an interview today saying he thinks Social Security should be abolished, and with Couric last night saying he thought McCain’s tax and healthcare plans were great– he’s clearly well to the right of your average Joe SixPack.

And again, you could say he’s a private citizen unwillingly thrust into the spotlight, but he’s given more interviews so far than Sarah Palin! And doesn’t exactly seem shy about expanding upon his views of (no) government.

Rapture Spenard Palin (15:31:36) :
“And it generally annoys them too, which makes it even more fun.
Okay, so I’m unemployed and bored. I still vote.”
*******
Go Gadflies! or e-gadflies?

16102008

Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(15:45:57) :

I can not wait to see what SNL does with McBlinky on the midweek treat.

16102008

Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)(15:46:16) :

kidsquid (15:04:47) : You lucky duck! Both Obama and McCain will also speak at a Catholic Charities fundraiser –15min each/ back to back at the Waldorf tonight.
Considering the Catholic Church’s campaign against Obama, I hope they will be civil. C-span will show it at 9 EST.

16102008

Sasha in MN(15:47:20) :

Tourettes or dog/cat hair are the only explanations I could come up with…you know he has 23 pets.

16102008

Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(15:48:53) :

Sasha in MN (15:47:20) :

Tourettes or dog/cat hair are the only explanations I could come up with…you know he has 23 pets.
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NO!!! You have got to be kidding . . . or kittying.

16102008

Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)(15:50:37) :

Wondering_Lake (15:15:43) :
I bookmarked the video because I love it! Hugs to you 😉

Robocall…Roboidiot is more like it! Shame shame shame —– I reckon they’ll get their reward in heaven too, eh? A one way ticket….
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16102008

Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(16:11:50) :

Anybody noticing the comments from around the world blaming the US for the economic mess their countries are in?

Ughhhh. We are going to have to activley employ PR to reintroduce us (or US) to the rest of the world. The Post-Bush Reveal.

16102008

caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin(16:12:25) :

Priceless!!! ***ZERO? ZERO?***
For the person having the problem with the you tubes/firefox…go to adobe and re-download the flash player. I think they just updated them to 10. something.
Mine wasn’t working yesterday and I reloaded and now its fine 🙂
Good luck 😀
McInsane and Saracuda are just vile and evil! I hope SHE has a BIG SURPRISE for her when she returns…..IRS, FBI, * Impeachment/recall* all of the above 😉

16102008

Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(16:15:58) :

Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein (16:07:26) :

Remember, he brags about not being Mr. Congeniality in the Senate. Keeps saying “my friends” to strange crowds. And creeps people out when he smiles.

Pets luv ya no matter what.

16102008

MinNJ Moose Roadster(16:16:28) :

Meat Notgay: Todd, the Imagined Conquerer (in his own mind.) Ours are so much sexier; they’re actually smart AND experienced.

Wondering Lake: Your story touched me. Just commorating my mother’s death this week; however, my father died of a brain tumor. Your telling of your father’s suffering reminded me of my father’s, and I was moved. Just a thank you for sharing your experience.

16102008

Laura Lee aka Krinkle Bearcat Palin(16:17:59) :

See now that nonsense at SP’s rally deeply embarrasses me for being white. I’m totally ashamed that we’ve obviously not come very far with abolishing racism.

Love the pumpkin video – I have that Ray Charles song and will gladly play it November 5th while crying my out.

16102008

Laura Lee aka Krinkle Bearcat Palin(16:18:49) :

Oh crap I was so mad I forgot my EYES! But ya’ll get the drift…

<3, Laura Lee

16102008

ira2(16:18:55) :

A Nana from Alaska (15:34:08) :

The Blinker and The Winker. Winkin’, Blinkin’, and….

…Stinkin’?

16102008

Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(16:19:05) :

Forty Watt Hussein (16:04:44) :

I am going to follow this. If this is true, oh my. What a story. Tolerance and wisdom with age….NOT.

16102008

Marty Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter(16:20:03) :

hey muddies..

KO has a sneal preview on msnbc in a min

16102008

Marty Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter(16:20:32) :

oops of mcgrumpy..

16102008

sharon in canada(16:21:36) :

just heard clip of Rep Robocall and my blood ran cold.Never in my wildest dreams did I think a compaign could stoop so low.I don’t have a dog in this race but I am feeling disgust for the McCain camp.It’s funny how Dobbs and Beck close their eyes and ears to these vile attacks, while at the same time claiming to be so brilliant and fair.

16102008

Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL HUSSEIN(16:21:42) :

This really has nothing to do with the blinking at the debate,
but it does state, what can happen if you don’t pay attention.SOMETIMES!!Sometimes when you cry, no one will see your tears.

Sometimes when you’re in pain, no one will see your hurt.

Sometimes when you’re worried, no one will see your stress.

Sometimes when you’re happy, no one will see your smile.

BUT FART !!!!Just one time, and everyone hears it.

16102008

Dragon Lady(16:23:02) :

Erin and Wondering – With Firefox 3 I had the same problem; try installing Flash Player and reboot. It worked for me.

I got my second robocall from the McCaine campaign today. The first one was all about Obama being with the Hollywood crowd while Mr. Crankypants was busy “saving the economy”. The one today was all about the “terrorist” Bill Ayers who “killed American citizens” and is cozy with Obama. I have notified the local chapter of the Republican Committee, that as, I am a registered Democrat, I want my phone # removed from their lists and that I have never been more outraged by ANY political candidate or campaign as I am by McCaine and the RNC.. I also notified the Huffington Post about this as they had an article about this and are keeping track.

16102008

angryxer(16:27:18) :

Sorry to go off-topic, but for you pet lovers out there:

I just received this heartbreaking email– a soldier’s dog that was cleared too late to make the SPCA trip out of Iraq yesterday is now in danger of getting put down by the military.

Sign the petition here to save ol’ Ratchet (the most adorable pics included!), pass it on, and donate if you can. Info is also included for calling & emailing MN state senators and congressional reps, which they’d really like people to help with.

“ISSUE 1: Ratchet is not allowed to leave. Since officers are refusing to let Ratchet go, he needs a military order to officially release him to leave Iraq.

ISSUE 2: Baghdad Pups needs donations to sponsor their upcoming trip to Iraq. Ratchet was scheduled to leave on their October 6th flight. Their next flight is early next week, and Ratchet must be on it. Gwen will be shipping out later this month and Ratchet will have to be abandoned if he doesn’t leave before her.

Ratchet is at Camp Striker in Iraq / 15 other dogs were allowed to leave with Baghdad Pups on the flight Ratchet was supposed to be on. / The base’s commanding officers seized Ratchet on his way to the airport. /
Ratchet has had his necessary vaccinations and is HEALTHY. / Ratchet needs a military release because the military is refusing to let him leave Iraq. ”

Technically, military rules are against soldiers befriending strays, in fact, “Soldiers can face immediate court-marshal for befriending animals and some even see their animals brutally murdered by a direct gunshot to the head from commanding officers who will not bend the rules” (geez louise!),
although some concessions have obviously been made in conjunction with the SPCA Bagdad Pups rescue program. After now honorably our soldiers have served and how atrociously they’ve been treated by their government, you’d think the military could be more generous on this issue. Sgt. Gwen Beberg is a decorated soldier, still in Iraq 15 months past her original commitment due to the stop-loss policy.

I live in Alaska. I just went to Kenai and I saw a pick-up truck with, “Ditch the Bitch” on the back window! Now, who could they mean??????? 🙂

16102008

angryxer(16:46:36) :

Anne– hilarious! I wish it were Christmas already so I could whip that out on cards!

16102008

Anne(16:47:25) :

Ach. Edit:
frummin’
pipin’

I bet you all can come up with something better. Someone way upthread suggested this. Just wasted another half hour of my life.

16102008

MinNJ Moose Roadster(16:48:46) :

Perhaps I’m thinking ahead, but I can’t wait for Michelle to get into the White House, and Jill Biden to get there also. Bush didn’t like state dinners, therefore very few happened, which ARE solidifying diplomatic events. GRRRR. The last one, with Queen Elizabeth II, was a shambles. Many of the White House guests were professional atheletes, including Elisabeth Hasselbeck and her husband. One journalist quipped, ” Who knew the Queen was such a jock?”

All this has had an effect on our diplomatic reach in the world. We are not well liked as it is, and W’s dislike of these events has removed much from our reach in that realm. A First Lady with Princeton and Harvard degrees, and a magnimous and charming personal style will do us well as a country. I truly WANT INTELLIGENCE and CHARM back in MY COUNTRY.

OK…small rant done, for now.

16102008

Forty Watt Hussein(16:50:06) :

@ Anne (16:43:18)

Clever!

16102008

Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein(16:52:13) :

angryxer (16:27:18) : I signed the military pet petition, thank you.

Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca (16:15:58) :
“Pets luv ya no matter what.”

Well, dogs do. Cats keep their own counsel.
I’m from AZ. Also.

16102008

Anne(16:52:19) :

Thanks, angry xer. Pray come Christmas it will be totally irrelevant.

Oh, yes, MinNJ Moose Roadster – Michelle will be one wonderful First Companion.

16102008

Crust Scramble - SouthGA(16:55:53) :

“Ditch the bitch” I love it. Too bad, South Georgia’s way not ready for that!

16102008

MinNJ Moose Roadster(16:59:35) :

Anne: Brilliant! And Michelle will be dynamic, as we all know.

16102008

Anne(17:00:43) :

I should explain that “First Companion” thing. It’s an inadequate attempt (maybe first Partner – but that sounds way too PC) to sidestep the First Lady, First Dood appellations, which seem really sexist.

16102008

ira2(17:03:06) :

“ISSUE 1: Ratchet is not allowed to leave. Since officers are refusing to let Ratchet go, he needs a military order to officially release him to leave Iraq.

I’m a confirmed bleeding heart and “my pets are my children”, but honestly, this goes too far. What’s happening in Iraq is a WAR. You know, soldiers, bombings, dead people, fighting, buildings and vehicles going up in flames and frying the people inside – a WAR. It’s not a soap opera sideshow playing in ten-minute segments during the evening news. No matter how kindly Americans feel towards pets, to bring up this issue in this way makes Americans look foolish and childish in the eyes of many people who have lived through or are living through a WAR that’s destroying their homes and lives, that tears apart families and robs them of the life as they knew it.

How about putting those donations towards saving some of the millions of American pets which are euthanized every year – and not with methods as kind as a shot to the head! – instead of towards plane tickets to bring more pets into this country from elsewhere?
Nine years ago was the last time I checked the numbers, and back then it was 17 million cats and dogs that were put to death in shelters a year. That number didn’t include the unreported backyard killings (drowned kittens, bludgeoned puppies, insufficient or old breeders, non-winning fighting dogs, cats with ringworm, you name it). That was nine years ago, and you can bet your fanny that that number has gone UP.

I’m sorry from an animal-loving point of view, but between that in-home pet slaughter horror and the fact that a soldier in a war won’t find “save adorable puppy from abandonment” in his/her job description, I’d so much rather not see the importance of either problem pushed aside by tear-jerks and sugary heartbreak.

Just in case that makes me sound like what’s-her-name with her wolf-shooting fetish, let me say that Ira the pit bull sleeps under the covers with me and I have six fully assembled cat kennels taking up much space in the laundry room in case we ever have to evacuate for some reason (it’s the Southwest wildfire mindset that hangs on from the past, no matter that there’s no danger of wildfires or other natural disasters in Minnesota). The move from AZ involved four dogs, three cats, two boas, and one rat. The interstate moves before that involved caged parakeets and a five-gallon bucket with the goldfish. The move from Germany involved one cat. So I have a pretty good record of minor pet insanity myself… but there’s a huge difference between being a private-citizen bleeding heart and involving an institution like the military IN A WAR ZONE in one’s bleeding heart affairs.

16102008

ergot-AKA Rankle Hiway Hussein Palin(17:06:29) :

SoCal Gal:

The Keetinggg FiIve

16102008

Zim in Oz(17:07:08) :

…bit off topic…perhaps you can help…

Is ‘Real Clear Politics’ …bent ?

I checked up on their ‘latest polls’…they have Gallup (Tradional)* and (Expanded)* which have poorer Obama results but they do not have the ACTUAL Gallup daily result which is more in favour of Obama.

Not only that I have noticed over the last week or so that many of the articles have a slight McCain bias….

So…are they bent ? (biased)

16102008

ira2(17:10:34) :

MinNJ Moose Roadster (16:48:46) :

[…] A First Lady with Princeton and Harvard degrees, and a magnimous and charming personal style will do us well as a country. I truly WANT INTELLIGENCE and CHARM back in MY COUNTRY.

OK…small rant done, for now.

HA! I was thinking the same thing… can you imagine The Mavericks hosting any official event?? Sarah would probably insist on hot dogs as “true American fare”

16102008

sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party(17:11:20) :

Oh, I dunno about all this stuff about him blinking so much.

Personally, I think he was trying to give a shout-out to that guy who was one of 2 survivors in that unfortunate plane crash a few weeks ago. Yanno the one I mean – the former drummer for Blink182.

16102008

Cassie Jeep Pike Palin (Wish I were Trout)(17:16:51) :

Soldotna Sue (16:43:35) :
—————————-

I really like that one 😉

16102008

ira2(17:19:04) :

ira2 (17:03:06) :
The interstate moves before that involved caged parakeets and a five-gallon bucket with the goldfish. in addition to the cats and dogs. Forgot to list that.

(Not that it matters much, but correctness is an obsession)

16102008

Bec Hussein in Illinois(17:19:51) :

Rachel chatting up about why McCain is falling behind so badly with women. Suggested reason of course — Palin!

Love Claire McCaskill of MO – she is the best Obama supporter and I sure hope her state will make it to that blue color by November. It is close.

I hear you, but some of us do plenty of work stateside with animals, and I don’t think this should have to be an either/or call.

Also, it’s not some random civvies messing with the military out of the blue thing– I certainly wouldn’t presume to do that– but as long as the leadership there has already engaged with the SPCA efforts to some degree, the door has already been opened.

I’ve read about the dreadful conditions of animals in Iraq, who are suffering because of the goddawful war WE started. If some people are moved to help, so be it. If not, don’t.

You will find plenty of people to say, send money and care to people, don’t waste your time with pets. There are others who say we should only take care of our own. I don’t expect everyone will agree about priorities in this world; but I passed the word along for others who might share a concern for the issue at hand.

16102008

Bec Hussein in Illinois(17:22:50) :

McCain’s speech at the dinner – he is having fun slamming MSNBC.

16102008

Nebraska Native AKA Froth Hussein Failin(17:23:17) :

Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca (16:23:57) : *wink wink* 🙂

16102008

angryxer(17:24:28) :

and this? “It’s not a soap opera sideshow playing in ten-minute segments during the evening news.”

what the fuck. come off it.

16102008

Nebraska Native AKA Froth Hussein Failin(17:24:36) :

McCain is actually being thoughtful in his response to Obama at this fancy smantzy dinner they are also at together, yup yup and

16102008

Dragon Lady(17:25:32) :

ACORN in McC’s Smith dinner talk. Also in a lot of cartoons. Who wants to wager there is a recall in Ohio at least?

16102008

Bec Hussein in Illinois(17:25:55) :

Wow – McCain is actually saying very nice things about Obama at the dinner. Really amazing, I think. Wish he would continue it after the dinner is over, but of course he won’t.

16102008

antiAnti(17:26:08) :

Joe the plumber joins the gang on the palinaspresident site.

16102008

Nebraska Native AKA Froth Hussein Failin(17:26:11) :

McCain is actually semi-human… who’da thunk it?

16102008

Proud Community OrganzierWA(17:27:07) :

I have just been reading about the Robocall campaign tactics coming from the McCain camp.

I have to say that I no longer consider John McCain even remotely an American. He has truly proven to me that he will never put his country first.

He is no maverick and has demeaned the title of POW and war hero.

16102008

judi hussein that one Obama(17:27:40) :

Crust Scramble – SouthGA (16:55:53) :

“Ditch the bitch” I love it. Too bad, South Georgia’s way not ready for that!

I don’t know Crust, down here in Brunswick, GA I am way ready for that!

16102008

Bec Hussein in Illinois(17:28:39) :

Now it is Obama’s turn. This is live on MSNBC

16102008

Nebraska Native AKA Froth Hussein Failin(17:29:07) :

Also, are you all watching MSNBC? O is on next… catholic charities dinner gala?

16102008

Forty Watt Hussein(17:29:16) :

Watching McCain speaking at the Al Smith Charity dinner. This version of McCain could win. What has happened to this man? And what ever it is, please let him go on doing what he does worst until after Barack wins.

Obama about to speak next.

16102008

Bec Hussein in Illinois(17:29:31) :

Wow – Katie Couric is a dish tonight at the dinner!

16102008

judi hussein that one Obama(17:29:41) :

He looks very handsome in his tux.

16102008

Nebraska Native AKA Froth Hussein Failin(17:29:54) :

Bec Hussein in Illinois (17:28:39) : Twins separated at birth 🙂

16102008

judi hussein that one Obama(17:30:29) :

I luv it he said Palling around with..

16102008

Teresa(17:30:32) :

Dragon Lady, yes I am expecting a recall to be called in Ohio, maybe FL too…

16102008

Bec Hussein in Illinois(17:31:41) :

His introduction says he was born in Hawaii. Will some believe this? Oh well – at least they said it clearly.

16102008

Nebraska Native AKA Froth Hussein Failin(17:31:48) :

OK… McCain is not laughing or being nice anymore… major shots to Palin… it goes on and on.. this is so cool!

16102008

ergot-AKA Rankle Hiway Hussein Palin(17:32:05) :

McCain blinking out: —…— —…— = SOS, SOS.
Python move————————
McCain has indeed requested earmarks, as I’m sure you are all aware.
But here’s a crowd pleaser: The $10,000,000 grant for the William H. Rehnquist Center at the University of Arizona Law School. ..A tribute to a well known conservative Justice.
But wait… there’s more…
Dan Nowicki and Bill Muller, reporting in the Arizona Republic on March 1, 2007, documented that in 1953, James “Daddy” Hensley was again charged with falsifying records at Marley’s liquor firms.
This time Hensley was found not guilty, after being defended by William Rehnquist, the future chief justice of the Supreme Court.
Tribute to a (for conservatives) great Justice…or a personal payback by John for the Hensleys?

16102008

caligrl Hussein wolves eat Palin(17:32:09) :

OMG! McCain and Obama at a “Roast” McCain did a comedy good natured “slams”
and then he actually said really nice things about him!!! It looked like, and he (McCain) almost choked up and looked like he would cry! Barack was moved also, and after McCain ribbed him somemore and Barack had a HUGE Smile…Now he is talking BO…

16102008

judi hussein that one Obama(17:32:13) :

Obama said “From the doorstep you can see all the way to the Russian Tea Room”..This is good.

16102008

Bec Hussein in Illinois(17:33:31) :

Obama making funny. Doing OK. Scripted, of course.

16102008

Dragon Lady(17:33:55) :

Who knew such a funny McCain? Am watching SNL but taping Rachel in the other room.

Yes, that McCain could have won but don’t worry, the base isn’t watching this. They think Al Smith is the guy on the cover of Mad Magazine.

16102008

Bec Hussein in Illinois(17:35:56) :

Obama joked that he has the ears of Alfred E Neuman. But actually – I always thought Bush WAS Alfred E.Neuman.

16102008

ds55(17:37:10) :

Obama is really funny. Actually, McCain was pretty funny, too.

16102008

ira2(17:37:58) :

angryxer (17:21:53) :

I see your point too :o) I just don’t like the mixing of official military business (war) and bleeding heart pet affairs. Maybe if the pet affair stuff was worded a bit differently, to give it perspective without making war issues look like cotton candy at the fair, it’d be less of a turn-off to those who see war as something more serious?

Btw, I was THRILLED when word got out about hurricane evacuation plans now including people’s pets. It’s not at all like I’m against considering pets (though it might come across that way in my post above). It’s easy to recognize though that too much doe-eyed sugarspin on part of the animal protectors is a big turnoff to those people who’d be more open-minded if the topic was presented more sensibly than emotionally. And that goes for inside the country as well as for overseas.

16102008

Bec Hussein in Illinois(17:38:29) :

McCain was pretty hilarious on SNL. The campaign has ruined him. He is smiling tonight though. Good timeout tonight for both.

Barrack on a roll right now.

16102008

Democrat G (formerly G)(17:39:35) :

THANK YOU Juneau Girl – it looks like the cancer is back. As someone here said, watching it in HDTV gave a WHOLE new perspective to his face. That side looked sick again and TONS of DIFFERENT colored makeup than the rest of his face.

Toward the end of the debate I started tapping my toe every time McCain blinked, and it was pretty up-tempo. But when the camera switched back to Obama, I was tapping almost as fast! It could be that some of the time Obama was looking down at his notes (our eyelids dip when we look down); also, perhaps because of [careful here] his dark eye and skin color his blinks didn’t Jump out so visibly as McCain’s (big dark eyes on white skin). Not to disagree with all the other speculation above. I wonder if bright TV spotlights may have been a factor for both gentlemen.

16102008

MinNJ Moose Roadster(17:40:32) :

Bec: Political Japanese theater. They’re not in white tail, they speak as if they’re in white face.

16102008

Bec Hussein in Illinois(17:40:34) :

I love it when O chuckes at himself!

16102008

Democrat G (formerly G)(17:41:45) :

MUDDIES!!! Come on everyone, donate at least $5 to the DEMS in ALASKA!

Les Gara is an amazing man who was kind enough to email me regarding Troopergate and David Guttenberg emailed many of us.

GARY WILKEN is a NASTY old man who needs to go away! You all saw SOME of the nasty emails he wrote to people on this board! Let’s MAKE A DIFFERENCE and HELP the DEMS take control!

As AKM said, even a small donation goes a long way in ALASKA!

16102008

Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein(17:41:47) :

ira 2,
I take your point about priorities, but here is the paragraph that moved me to sign that petition. It’s about the mental health and well-being of our soldiers:

>>One soldier wrote to Baghdad Pups: “I have sacrificed a lot to serve my country. All that I ask in return is to be allowed to bring home the incredible dog that wandered into my life here in Iraq and prevented me from becoming terribly callous towards life.”

16102008

Democrat G (formerly G)(17:42:56) :

Sorry – hate not being able to EDIT

David Guttenberg is AMAZING as well….let’s support them!!

16102008

judi hussein that one Obama(17:44:06) :

Damn, he is good!

16102008

Bec Hussein in Illinois(17:44:35) :

O getting very serious – and religious. Will they believe him – that he is a Christian, too?

16102008

sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party(17:46:04) :

HamletsMill – Pittsburgh is a few hours west of me so I won’t be able to attend. Plus, I got lasso’ed into helping girl scouts set up their tents for an overnight.

EEeeeeewwwww, Copper. It’s bad enough that McCain’s wandering eye, excessive blinking and words like “headlights” have me thinking he’s been looking a bit under her chin, but now you want us to consider his tongue?? eeewwww… don’t wanna know where it’s been, either.

Snoskred – as angryxer points out, the link between Samuel “Joe” the un-Plumber and Keating is tenuous at best. I’ve looked and looked and looked but can only find suggestions. My own thinking is that the un-Plumber is distantly, not closely, related to Keating. And that’s without relying on the grand hoaxer, eisenstadt. but I thank HuffPo and DailyKos for directing so much traffic to my mini-blog today on that very issue.

Meat Not Gay – you must mean Blinky Winky and Dinky.

MJC – you give the best links. And I mean that in the best and most neutral way possible.

Turbine and Bob – excellent points about Todd not being able to get security clearances. But I have a different concern: considering all of Todd’s behind the scenes politicking to get Wooten fired, why isn’t anyone going after him for theft of government services? It’s not like Todd is actually a state employee; that being the case, by what right or authority does he have his own desk and how is he allowed to use state resources on his personal witch hunt against Wooten??

16102008

John Mashey(17:46:46) :

michele:

‘He said this week that he is a “fiscal conservative, but a social liberal.” I think that makes him pretty much a moderate, no matter which party he associates with. Nobody will admit to being a “fiscal liberal” (”oh yes, I just love to tax and spend”) so I’m not sure why people even bother to make the point about their fiscal conservatism.’

Of course, there really are many more combinations and gradations, and in some cases either flavor is happy to spend money, but on very different things.

However, at least here in CA (and I’m sure in other places), we certainly have many people in categories a) and b), but there are many in like Leno in c). Of course, there are wide variations, and people of various allegiances may say “we *need* to do X, and we have to spend the money to do it” and such things commonly get voted on, and sometimes people are willing to pay.

Gov. Schwarzenegger would fit c) (and hence is reviled by some as a RINO: Google: RINO arnold) but oddly is not so listed on the RINO Wikipedia page. One finds many people around Silicon Valley in c), whether registered Dem, Rep , or Independent.

As one drives up the Peninsula to San Francisco, b) becomes more likely, and if one drives over to the Central Valley, the percentage of a) rises. In any case, c) is a common-enough position that the phrase is routinely used here.

16102008

ds55(17:46:48) :

SNL is making fun of Gayle Quinnell, the lady who said Obama was “an Arab” at McCain’s rally in Minnesota.

16102008

Ohio Sue(17:46:50) :

Hey, all. Thought I’d drop by and link the Washington Post’s endorsement editorial of Obama. As conservative as the WP’s Editorial Page is, the endorsement is fairly impressive.

Amen to other other posting about some elegance in the White House. Ditto amen to Post Turtle Palin servin up hot dogs (or is that Hot Dog!) or mooseburgers. I think McCain would be wearing his bathrobe muttering to himself.

SNL – oh the he’s a Arab Lady – a HOWL.

16102008

THAT ONE TiredMom HUSSEIN(17:47:07) :

That Gary Wilken emailed me 3 times – all of them nasty responses

16102008

ira2(17:48:28) :

Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein (17:41:47) :

ira 2,
I take your point about priorities, but here is the paragraph that moved me to sign that petition. It’s about the mental health and well-being of our soldiers:

>>One soldier wrote to Baghdad Pups: “I have sacrificed a lot to serve my country. All that I ask in return is to be allowed to bring home the incredible dog that wandered into my life here in Iraq and prevented me from becoming terribly callous towards life.”

Barack said in his funny speech…he started paling around with some not so good individuals…the state senate “John I even saw you there”
Who is Barack Obama? (Well Look on my face book page) My father was EL and I was born on Krypton and come to save the earth…
Barack is swahili for “that one”
Hussein, was given to me by someone who didn’t think I would run for president…
Really my middle name is “STeve”
I’ve never pul lipstick on a pig,
or a pitbull
Towards the end….
Serious….”We are all children of GOD”
It was Awesome JM and BO

16102008

Dragon Lady(17:50:56) :

SNL – college campuses banning smoking? Next it will be drinking. Or sex. What’s the point then? I feel sorry for anyone who missed the 60s/70s. You had to be there babe.

I haven’t been this fired about an election since Nixon. (You had to be there babe.)

SNL – college campuses banning smoking? Next it will be drinking. Or sex. What’s the point then? I feel sorry for anyone who missed the 60s/70s. You had to be there babe.

I haven’t been this fired about an election since Nixon. (You had to be there babe.)
———————————————————–
Wow, Dragon Lady! I’m having a flash back. And I never really did drugs very much at all back in those days. Just breathing was all the altered state of consciousness I needed. Every day – even a bad one – was an adventure in the exploration of cosmic consciousness. But there are some other memories. Wink. Wink. I was there babe…

16102008

judi hussein that one Obama(18:29:35) :

Hamlets/Dragon..we didn’t worry about it so much then did we? You had to be there, it was pretty great!

I think the important thing in all this is to remember what a HORRIBLE job we are doing in attending to the mental health needs of our vets and how the simple love of an animal can be so healing. I, for one, have no problem with trying to help a soldier hold on to whatever will help her recover from the psychological wounds of Bush’s illegal “war”.

16102008

Bec Hussein in Illinois(18:36:26) :

Judi, Dragon & Hamlets – good times, yes.

But we were worrying about whether our menfolk were going to get drafted! I don’t want to see us return to that even again.

Peace

16102008

Glenn2008(18:37:42) :

Wasn’t refraining from blinking a key element of national security (freaking out the baddies, as Jon Stewart pointed out)?

Consequently, if you blink you must be Palin’ around with t errorists!

Sounds like poor leadership and bad example for all… Weak on national security.

Just imagine what he would do facing Putin. Blink at 60Hz ?

16102008

judi hussein that one Obama(18:39:08) :

And we haven’t had peace for a while have we?

16102008

sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party(18:40:37) :

Eyes Wide – I’d bring some road apples for Sarah Palin, but ya alls prolly already know that road apples are the equivalent to her words. Or, in other words, horse shit.

16102008

Bec Hussein in Illinois(18:40:38) :

Party in Chicago election night, Mudpuppies – you’re all invited. A November night outdoors in Chicago could be pretty chilly, though. Might need those Alaskan parkas.

Slightly OT but I’m mad. These RNC robocalls need to be stopped. I called the RNC headquarters at 202-863-8500 as others on various websites are encouraging. The word is that their voice mail is full but I found a way through it. Push Option #4 – Finance. There’s a long menu of choices so I went for the big donor “Chairman’s Club” option and presto — I could leave a message.

I’m posting this message everywhere I can find and encouraging everyone to do the same. I can think of nothing finer today than swamping the entire RNC phone system with messages expressing our outrage. Take a minute, leave a message, share the love…with our friends at the RNC who are bringing hate, racism, fear and dirty politics to a new low.

Thanks!

16102008

Laura Lee aka Krinkle Bearcat Palin(18:42:55) :

Joe Six Pack
followed by
Joe Plumber
soon to be followed by
Joe Bama!!!

– – – – – – – – –

“The superior man is satisfied and composed; the mean man is always full of distress.” ~ Confucius

16102008

sauerkraut aka Palin Pity Party(18:43:05) :

ooohhh mah gawd… ya alls are writing about McCain’s facial expressions… and here I follow a pingback to problembear’s wordpress blog (I’d post the link but I keep getting nothing showing up) and see this picture of mccain grabbing towards obama’s butt all the while beedy-eyed and tongue hanging out like mick jaguar. spit my coffee all over the place.

does problembear post on mudflats??

16102008

Laura Lee aka Krinkle Bearcat Palin(18:44:54) :

Joe Six Pack
followed by
Joe Plumber
soon to be followed by
Joe Bama!!!

– – – – – – – – –

“The superior man is satisfied and composed; the mean man is always full of distress.” ~ Confucius

16102008

Bec Hussein in Illinois(18:45:59) :

Judi: And we haven’t had peace for a while have we?

We sure haven’t. But I will be comforted to have a president who was against the Iraq war and will surely be cautious about anything close to another one. With Joe Biden at his side – they have the smarts needed to THINK before acting.

Still, they have some nasty messes to work us out of first. I don’t envy them that challenge.

16102008

Osama been hidin(18:46:07) :

cute

16102008

judi hussein that one Obama(18:46:28) :

Glenn2008 (18:37:42) :

Wasn’t refraining from blinking a key element of national security (freaking out the baddies, as Jon Stewart pointed out)?

Consequently, if you blink you must be Palin’ around with t errorists!

Sounds like poor leadership and bad example for all… Weak on national security.

Just imagine what he would do facing Putin. Blink at 60Hz ?

——————————————————and Glenn after last night we know where the blinking thing came from.

16102008

Aussie Puck Mule Hussein(18:48:25) :

@Taupe Armageddon Palin (18:42:50) :

You made me mad enough to call from Australia! 😉

A briliant idea to flood all the options.

16102008

Shikago aka Chief Hussein Shikago(18:49:48) :

Just caught up on everyones posts. Thanks to all and thanks again, AKM. Great stuff, blink, blink, blink…

I love this place.

16102008

Scrimshaw aka Sack Panther Hussein(18:51:04) :

ds55 (18:35:06) :
Lots of scholarly research on … get this… “Rapid Eye Movement Therapy for Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder”. You can’t make this stuff up!
~ ~ ~ ~
Rapid eye movement is REM sleep, aka dreaming, not blinking.
Dreaming is good for working out what troubles us,
and some of us might be a little short of it, lately.

16102008

Osama been hidin(18:52:46) :

1 800 get over it

16102008

Teresa(18:52:58) :

Taupe, from what I am hearing those RNC robocalls are not illegal and no one can do anything about it or stop it… if this “fear tactic makes people want to vote for this man, this country is in sadder shape than I ever could have imagined.

16102008

ergot-AKA Rankle Hiway Hussein Palin(18:54:12) :

Dragon Lady (17:50:56) :
You remember the 60’s? I mean, I was there but it’s a bit hazy.

16102008

prettybrowntee(18:54:44) :

Joe the plumber is not related to keating but… LOL

He was used as a tax example for John McCain but….. wooo can’t even breath I am laughing so hard.

Mr. Plumber owes 1200 in back taxes and now has a lien on his house for not paying according to ABC

So what is the point Mr. Plumber will give himself a tax break by not paying. LOL… Where does McCain get these people from.

*******Palin and Joe the Plumber for president 08*******

16102008

Osama been hidin(18:55:41) :

To much dope.

16102008

Bec Hussein in Illinois(18:55:42) :

Taupe – I’m seeing the news blogs featuring articles on the RNC robocalls and it has been on MSNBC.

I got a GOOD robocall tonight – from my county clerk (Repub) telling me I can do early voting and to check the Website to find out where. Online I just put in my name and address and it shows my voting status and where my polling place is and a map of all the many early voter locations.

This guy is definitely not my favorite elected official and he ran for every office he could before landing the Clerk job, but I have to say I’m impressed with the online system. I know it cost a lot of $$.

16102008

Osama been hidin(18:58:56) :

Mccain has hung around with terrorist. In veitnam.

16102008

Dragon Lady(18:59:18) :

Anyone who missed SNL at 9:30 EST can get it online or so they said. Just the half hour shows they are running Thursdays until the election.

Last week was funny but not brilliant. Ditto the debate segment tonight but That Crazy Rally Lady (who is the new Repug base) is a howl.

BTW – I DO NOT want SP on SNL – that could swing the whole election. Hm, maybe not.

Bec, Judi, Hamlets – in those cosmic consciousness days you could get a contact high from merely breathing as you say. (Or if you are now running for office you breathed but you didn’t inhale.)

16102008

Osama been hidin(19:01:42) :

I guess thats’s why obama snorts.

16102008

ergot-AKA Rankle Hiway Hussein Palin(19:02:01) :

Re: The calls, maybe different in other places (my phone service is archaic), but like the telemarketer auto calls, I set the thing down and come back a bit later. Their auto caller eventually hangs up, but it takes a while, thereby slowing the process, and hence the efficency. Live telemarketers I tell there’s someone at the door, would they hold a minute. Then hang up in 10 or 20.
Would the “do not call list” work? Up here we don’t get that many political duns, McCain thinks he’s got AZ in the bag, and may have, alas.

16102008

Bec Hussein in Illinois(19:03:41) :

Thanks Dragon – I was busy watching the candidates speeches at the dinner tonight and missed SNL. Found the link for tonight:

A San Bernardino County Republican group has distributed a newsletter picturing Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on a $10 bill adorned with a watermelon, ribs and a bucket of fried chicken.

Linking Obama to demeaning racist stereotypes drew denunciations from various GOP officials after the illustration appeared in the October newsletter of the Chaffey Community Republican Women, Federated, the Riverside Press-Enterprise reported Thursday.

And Diane Fedele who was the mastermind behind this distasteful act is Keith Olberman’s “Worst person in the world….”

16102008

Bea(19:05:23) :

Taupe Armageddon Palin (18:42:50) :

Slightly OT but I’m mad. These RNC robocalls need to be stopped. I called the RNC headquarters at 202-863-8500 as others on various websites are encouraging. The word is that their voice mail is full but I found a way through it. Push Option #4 – Finance. There’s a long menu of choices so I went for the big donor “Chairman’s Club” option and presto — I could leave a message.
___

I don’t think this is OT an all. This should be topic #1. We MUST stop these calls! They are whipping up muderous hatred in the most ignorant, racist, angry, violent members of their base and it’s DANGEROUS to Obama and our nation as a whole. We need to FLOOD the RNC with calls 24/7.

just got here…and catching up….am so proud of mudflatters here for following pact to not feed the trolls! Mudflats is the BEST!

16102008

Osama been hidin(19:06:55) :

My but ya’ll are well behaved tonight. Must have ben Joe the plummer.

16102008

Dragon Lady(19:06:59) :

TROLL ALERT. TROLL IN THE GARDEN. OSAMA BEEN HIDIN

SHOO – GO PUT LIPSTICK ON YOUR PITBULL – OR GO FIND A REDNECK WEBSITE

16102008

Deb(19:07:23) :

has it been mentioned that “sources” are saying Palin WILL appear on SNL this saturday?

16102008

Bea(19:07:26) :

*murderous— I’m pretty damn mad myself and can’t type well at the best of times.

16102008

Kat from FLA(19:07:54) :

Judi,

It’s even worse than that, it was a $10 food stamp adorned with pictures of fried chicken, watermelon, etc.

16102008

Deb(19:08:16) :

I know it’s TEMPTING to feed them…cuz they are so pitiful….but a pact IS a pact! vigilance!

16102008

Osama been hidin(19:08:17) :

That 1superdave was hoot wasn’t he.

16102008

THWV(19:09:10) :

Taupe Armageddon Palin (18:42:50) :
——————————————————
TAP Please keep posting your message. It can not be said enough! We have to get our message through to the RNC. If nothing else they will know where we stand.
Racism (Cross burning and KKK meetings) is still alive in West Virginia. First hand account from a freelance writer http://www.daleenberry.com/2008/10/racism_in_west_virginia_does_t.html#more
She is also the author of the book Sister of Silence . This is an autobiographical account of domestic violence. http://www.daleenberry.com/2006/01/sos_a_nonfiction_narrative_of.html
She is a personal friend and I told her that I’d pass the information on to my mudflat friends. This also helps me state my case. Racism is alive and well here, much more than people want to admit. I fear for the survival of our only hope. McCain’s campaign to incite fear and hate has to STOP NOW. His campaign is putting the bullets in the gun.

16102008

Bec Hussein in Illinois(19:09:19) :

DO NOT FEED!

16102008

prettybrowntee(19:10:26) :

Joe the plumber is not related to Keating but… LOL

McCain used him as a tax example to dispute Obama’s Tax plan. The problem is Mr. Plumber does not pay taxes. HHHHmmmm He currently has lien on his house because he owes $1200 in taxes according to ABC

Nope, not the same thing. REM is sleep, yes. But Rapid Eye Movement Therapy is used to help people with PTSD. The articles explain it. It’s used with victims of torture.

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katiebegood(19:19:23) :

I have come to really detest John McNasty. While watching Rachel Maddow tonight, she switched to a fund raiser where both Obama and McNasty were playing stand up comic. All during McNasty’s routine (which was pretty funny), Obama smiled, laughed and a couple of times cracked up. During Obama’s routine (which was also often funny) McCain would give his signature grimace smile for a couple of seconds and then go back into the facial mode he displayed during the last debate. He doesn’t even try to be likeable. Can you imagine that person as our President? The thought not only terrifies me, it makes me sick to my stomach whenever I think about it.

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Deb(19:21:35) :

oooh Bec…I LOVE the opumpkin!!

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Bea(19:22:59) :

You can leave a message of up to three minutes on RNC voicemailboxes, so feel free to play them some Mozart or maybe put the receiver next to a buzzing alarm clock like I did.

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Bec Hussein in Illinois(19:23:38) :

Dragon – somehow we’ll at least have a virtual party! I don’t think I’ll venture downtown – I’ll be glued to the TV and Mudflats for election night.

Did you read the article about where Obama is looking to have his party in Chicago? At Grant Park – where the Dem Convention protests were.

If you want some 60s memories – I highly recommend the film – Chicago 10.

RE: JTP — McCain made a funny about him in his dinner speech tonight. It was pretty good.

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Osama been hidin(19:24:02) :

That evil 1superdave has a mesage to mudflats at about superdave alsocheck out

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Deb(19:24:11) :

oh so he was mcgrumpkin even at a fundraiser for a CHARITY????? that’s sad

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Osama been hidin(19:24:36) :

my527

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katiebegood(19:24:57) :

Deb (19:08:16) :

I know it’s TEMPTING to feed them…cuz they are so pitiful….but a pact IS a pact! vigilance!

I’m so happy to find a blog where people can be disciplined enough not to feed the trolls. Because feeding them just encourages them. Ignoring them hurts their feelings and they get bored and go somewhere else to play.

Congratulations to everyone here!

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Bec Hussein in Illinois(19:25:12) :

Bea – how about playing them a tape from YouTube of Palin’s screechy voice! I have to mute it in 10 seconds when she comes on.

Bea…I’m not a hider or a liar. when I called I told them my name and said I am a registered INDEPENDENT voter in colorado and that I was offended by their deceitful, vicious calls. I want them to KNOW why I called!

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Bec Hussein in Illinois(19:27:16) :

Deb — actually McCain was great at the dinner tonight. We were commenting on it earlier on the thread. Suspended his nastiness and was funny and said quite nice things about Obama. The old McCain. Johnny – we hardly knew ya!

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Deb(19:28:16) :

katie–is easy to keep the eye on the prize here and hope in our leader, obama, rather than be pulled into sleaze 🙂

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Karen(19:28:43) :

Thanks for the Adobe Flash 10 alert. I’d been waiting for that – so far, so good.

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Bec Hussein in Illinois(19:29:11) :

OT — Boston having a little comeback party on the Rays right now. Probably not enough, but my brother will be happy. He was hoping for a Sox/Sox World Series — but that didn’t happen.

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Deb(19:29:27) :

ahh…ty for clarifying…I read something someone said about his “glued on face”…misunderstood

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Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL HUSSEIN(19:30:20) :

THWV (19:09:10)
=================================
I spent the first 17 years of my life in WV. Everything in your
post about that state is exactly true. I finally graduated high
school in ’69 and was able to escape. I only go back to visit.
Now that my family is no longer in the state, I don’t even
visit. I have always felt that WV is a great place to visit, but don’t
think about living there. The county I grew up in still doesn’t
want POC to visit, let alone live there. I am thankful that I was
able to move away from the racism of the state.

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Dragon Lady(19:30:32) :

Everyone see that Crist in Florida dismissed concerns about so called voter fraud – said that some people enjoy chaos. Sorry John!

He is seeing the Repug party in shreds with only the crazy rally lady as the base; Palin is the butt of jokes; McCain has destroyed his reputation with these Ayers attacks and spooky messages.

Lewis was not that far off about Wallace – I lived in Alabama in the 60s and that same type of hate speech appeals to that lower Repug base.

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Deb(19:32:06) :

btw…I forget who posted it, but that washington post endorsement of obama is an EXCELLENT read! very well written piece

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Canadian Neighbour(19:33:34) :

Bea,
When I get calls like this, I have one phone that is indestructible. I tap the receiver on the floor a few times just to annoy and then bang it a three or four times then just go back to tapping it for the time period. The bang hurts the ears on the other end and I know they will hit a button to the next message if they listened at all. I keep up the tapping just to use the recording time up as you have to have noise or the tape cuts off.

Oh to be a kid again!!!!

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Bec Hussein in Illinois(19:33:41) :

Its Letterman time in my timezone. From the clips on KO – looks like McCain did OK. He does still have a senate job – and needs to rehabilitate himself a bit or it is going to be a really lonely remainder of his term.

But in 3 weeks (or less now) – we can fling that hash back to Alaska and keep this support group for those who will have to continue suffering up there.

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Deb(19:35:44) :

well…since I stayed up too late AGAIN last night…I’m going to bed early tonight! keep up all the good work, mudflatians!!

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Bea(19:36:35) :

Deb (19:26:34) :

Bea…I’m not a hider or a liar. when I called I told them my name and said I am a registered INDEPENDENT voter in colorado and that I was offended by their deceitful, vicious calls. I want them to KNOW why I called!

____

Oh don’t worry. I made sure to tell them up front why they were being treated to a three-minute buzzer serenade! But, mad as I am, I can’t do endless 3-minute tirades.

FYI, at the end of your 3 minutes, it will give you the option to pres “1” to send the message. Do that and then press “0” and you can go right back to the main menu and begin all over again w/out having to redial the number. Ain’t technology grand?

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Bec Hussein in Illinois(19:37:02) :

Dave just joked that his entire balcony is filled with State Troopers fired by Sarah Palin.

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Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL HUSSEIN(19:37:52) :

The troll can be stuffed into the real Mudflats. I can send an
email to get the operation started if you like.

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Bec Hussein in Illinois(19:38:28) :

Did anyone else just hear the screen door slam? Whew. Hope it didn’t hit him on the way out.

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Bec Hussein in Illinois(19:39:27) :

No Deuce – I think Elvis has left the building.

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Bec Hussein in Illinois(19:41:10) :

Letterman’s Debate Recap is hilarious.

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Dragon Lady(19:41:17) :

Deuce 2 – people who live in fundie towns will tell you they are hotbeds of racism – hence the smugness over their religion is only a smokescreen – a type of compensation because they never got over the civil rights movement. They can be miserable places to live.

McCain slurped up to former agent of intolerance Falwell for his endorsement. Falwell started his first so called Christian school over busing.

OMG going to school with a black person?? Yeah, it’d be embarrassing when the black kid goes to Columbia and Harvard. . . and the White House.

Dobson’s group is financially linked to SP’s fighting Troopergate.

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Bec Hussein in Illinois(19:41:51) :

Coming up – Top 10 Messages Left on Joe the Plumber’s Answering Machine.

Truly, though, I liked the John McCain at the dinner–if I saw more of that side of him (respectful, humorous, self mocking) I wouldn’t hate him so much–I’d still be probama but not so disdainful of mccain…
just sayin, also…

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THWV(19:43:20) :

Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL HUSSEIN (19:30:20) :
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What part of the state did you grow up in? Don’t get me wrong, the state has many great qualities. I like living here. In fact I’ve traveled all over the country and still chose to live here. Racism, for the most part is kept hidden so if you look hard enough you can find some great people.

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Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL HUSSEIN(19:45:41) :

Dragon Lady (19:41:17) :
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I thank GOD for my grandmother (may she RIP) who taught
me to always love everyone for who they are, not what
they are. Thank You.

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Bec Hussein in Illinois(19:46:23) :

new thread!

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Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL HUSSEIN(19:47:00) :

THWV (19:43:20)
————————————-WEBSTER COUNTY!

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Deuce2 aka: AXE DIESEL HUSSEIN(19:49:04) :

Off to the new thread.

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Taupe Armageddon Palin(19:49:20) :

As requested, I’m reposting this message about how to get into the RNC voice mail system so we can join the chorus of those protesting their robocalls. Here in Minnesota they are illegal and I’ve advised the RNC that I am filing a complaint with the MN Attorney General.

Slightly OT but I’m mad. These RNC robocalls need to be stopped. I called the RNC headquarters at 202-863-8500 as others on various websites are encouraging. The word is that their voice mail is full but I found a way through it. Push Option #4 – Finance. There’s a long menu of choices so I went for the big donor “Chairman’s Club” option and presto — I could leave a message.

Feel free to repost the above message on your favorite blogs. I also love this idea:

FYI, at the end of your 3 minutes, it will give you the option to pres “1″ to send the message. Do that and then press “0″ and you can go right back to the main menu and begin all over again w/out having to redial the number. Ain’t technology grand?

Let’s continue to flood ’em with calls in protest.

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Marty Hussein McGrumpy Finger Quoter(20:02:59) :

McGrumpy is making meill on letterman

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HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin(21:02:08) :

Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca (15:06:03) :

Go See Alice (13:34:29) :
a/k/a Copper Hussein Lipstick
I’m a lawyer,not a doctor or nurse, so hope maybe a health care professional- or a mental health professional might weigh in . The excessive blinking and the frequent extensions of McAin’ts tongue make me wonder if over the years he wasn’t prescribed old-school antipsychotic meds and what we are seeing is a manifestation of EPS or tardive dyskinesia.
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Nebraska Native AKA Froth Hussein Failin (14:42:12) :
I am a nurse and therapist and if it was tardive dyskinesia from anti-psychotics, I think the tongue thrusting would be more pronounced. +++++++++++++++++++++++++

Agreed. Think it is probably his personality. Look at the multiple expressions that seemed over the top.

Good thing his game is Craps, cause he ain’t got a poker face.
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I’ll try to be succinct here even though it is a complex topic but it is going to be hard.

After my service in the Armed Service of the United States from 1969-1971, I tried to form a personal philosophy of life as to what I think is really going on on this planet based upon my own first hand observations at that point in life. What I came up with goes something like this and it seems to have served me well in my life. I have only gotten into trouble in my life when I have gone into a lapsed state of totally forgetting this insight from my youth.

It formed in me sometimes slowly over time drop by drop and sometimes in huge tidal waves of rapid accelerated tsunami like cosmic insight. Some of my ever developing insight was funded at great taxpayer expense while in the Armed Forces of the United States. The insight was my ever growing sense of unease that every person on this planet is a profoundly broken and shattered cosmic being. I came to the belief that every soul on this planet had committed some kind of unspeakable crime in some other Universe and was sent here for some kind of remedial course in existence on some kind of Cosmic “do over”. I came to the working insight that Earth is the “remedial planet” in this zone of our current Milky Way Galaxy. It is kind of like Cosmic summer school for people who just could not master a basic freshman course in “Cosmic Consciousness 101” in some other lifetime some where else in the infinite Universe.

So everyone you meet on this planet is basically insane. That is the insight from where you must start. But that enlightening basic perspective is not wholly bleak forever! After a while as you persevere on in life you begin to see that there is a system of hope going on too. The basic cosmic truth is that everyone only STARTS OUT EQUALLY INSANE. And in this sense there is a profound system of cosmic soul redemption in place. Once you see this you begin to see the great simultaneous equation of this existence. You begin to see various elements in the soul redemption equation cancel out and it all reduces down to this simple truth. There are two kinds of people in life: those whose self created life therapy IS WORKING and those whose self created life therapy IS NOT WORKING.

When you meet someone you must IMMEDIATELY and VERY QUICKLY size up if there individually devised system of therapy IS WORKING or IS NOT WORKING. You must be especially astute at this when observing people who are given any kind of power over you, your family, or people you care about. You must carefully study the people at the top of the business organization where you work. You must carefully study the people at the top running the economic system of your country. You must carefully study the people at the top running the government of your county. In essence, as a ever present cosmic fractal, you must try to discern if the people running any organization that has geometric control over you has people making critical decisions that HAVE THEIR SELF DEVISED SOUL THERAPY WORKING.

You do best in life trying to be in some kind of synchronicity with people who have their daily therapy mode working in a positive way. But make no mistake about it, evey person you meet in life is in some kind of therapy that they themselves have worked out and created for themselves from their individual unique life experience to try to function in their life. You will do much better in life if you only become romantically involved with someone working the same kind of therapy as you. If people learned that insight very early in life, they would do much better in a relationship. But that is a subset discussion for another time.

The main thing at this moment in time from a planetary perspective is to try to pick world leaders who have their cosmic soul therapy working. Oh! And did I say that it MUST be a benign therapy! The people running Wall Street for the last ten years had a system of self therapy where they made from $5-$300 million a year in bonuses from taking a cut from other people’s money. This was THEIR own personal therapy for their own psychological survival but it did NOT work out positive for everyone else. So you have to have a win-win going at some level of your individual therapy for it to be a positive one. You cannot have a zero sum game in your therapy where your therapy works only when someone else’s doesn’t! We have had many examples of this in recent years. GWB. Cheney. Rumsfeld. Wolfowitz. Bill Kristol. In fact, ALL the Neocons as spiritual archetypes were a veritable round up of Poster Boys of “souls whose individual system of personal soul therapy did NOT work”.

Of course, the greatest example of a person’s system of personal therapy gone bad for others was Germany from 1933-1945 and that is why I keep insisting that everyone here and their children and grand children read Robert G.L. Waite’s famous book “The Psychopathic God.” Every person on this planet MUST now know how to evaluate a person’s system of individual therapy before they go into a voting booth on this planet in any nation or system of organization now forever with the invention of nuclear weapons. The stakes are always that high now.

So that brings us to this political election. i once saw an interview with Barack Obama where he showed remarkable insight into his own psyche. Because he did not know his father and because he is of mixed race, he has observed that he has always been trying to find a wholeness in his implied brokenness by being a psychological and emotional bridge between alienated and unconnected communities of people. To me this is a benign therapy that has an immense harmonic in what our society and the world desperately needs right now. So based upon my theory of psychological analysis of a persons personal system of therapy, he has my vote. I have been responsible to my life long system of a person’s individual life therapy analysis and I support him.

Anyone here who had a parent who served in WWII knows that the best system of psychotherapy for PTSD this nation could come up with in that era was serving alcohol down at the VFP or AMVETS in a kind of ongoing lifetime reintegration bonding psychotherapy over decades. Stay quietly drink in groups and try to work it through. Take the wife too to help out in a kind of mirrored group therapy in the ladies auxiliary.

There is going to be some long, dark nights of the soul out of Iraq and Afghanistan now that this nation is going to have to try to morally deal with at some point. These are very long wars. But I don’t think it really ever will, just like it never psychologically dealt with Vietnam as a nation. No one could ever make up what people have to experience in war. In my military service I never had to take a human life or send anyone to their death. Every day I get down on my knees and thank Almighty God for this fate. But I know many people who did and have had to live with it and think about it their whole lifetime now to try to find the meaning.

Back in 1979 I had a guy working for me in my business who was a combat soldier in Vietnam who had gone through the whole nine yards. I used to go with him to the DAV store front support groups that started that year nationwide. I tried to listen and support people there as best I could. Only veterans could be there but I was there more as a citizen of my country than as a veteran because I was not a combat veteran. But i was of the era and i was allowed to be there.

One night they started the meeting as usual by going around the circle with each person telling why they came and what was bothering them. This was maybe a full ten or twelve years after what had happened to many of them in the war. As it went around for each person to speak about three people, the next guy was a person who had been in a unit in Vietnam where a soldier had raped a Vietnamese woman. This was at least ten years later and this person was consumed with guilt that he had done nothing in his unit to bring that person to justice when he found out about it. Tears welled up in his eyes as he told it to get the emotion out. Then the guy right next to him then had the turn come to him.

He had been in a unit where the exact same thing had happened. But in his unit they took revenge. They took a helicopter seat and took the floor bolts out of it and then made it look like they were still in place. Then they concocted a reason for the soldier that had done this to go on a local supply mission in that helicopter. The guy got in and “strapped” himself into the seat.

At some point in the flight they steadily climbed the helicopter up to about 5,000 feet or so and then suddenly banked it causing that guy to fall to his death into the jungle canopy. This guy had been filled with guilt for 12 years that they had taken justice into their own hands in their rage. This is war. This is what happens when people are sent into war. As Hemingway said no matter how justified or necessary a war may be, never think that it is not a crime. The cost in anguish is just that great.

And so this brings us to John McCain and his blinking. This man was a prisoner of war for over five years. He was held in a cell in solitary confinement for two years. He was sent to war and asked to sacrifice in a conflict that psychologically destroyed the United States. PTSD changes a person’s brain chemistry. In the United States all veterans of that era were left on their own to try to find their way as the WWII veterans before them. I honestly believe that for his untreated PTSD the political theater is his system of therapy. He is trying to get that star to best his father and grandfather. He is trying to communicate with the world from his psychological box. Perhaps even the TV studios are his REM light therapy. It is all very sad. But this is how it is in these United States where no one ever learns anything and every generation is sent to war forever because no one can find any other way to deal with the problems on this planet. The remedial planet. Where souls are sent for cosmic remedial therapy who have committed some great crime somewhere else in the Universe.

Whilst this not our election, I, as a resident of the Scottish Highlands and a regular visitor to the US, hope that Obama wins and brings about much needed change in relations between the US and the rest of the world. Bush has done so much damage on the foreign policy front…

I like what Obama is saying on many fronts – he clearly cares. If I could, he would have my vote.

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Scotsgirl(03:39:18) :

Seahawk – hi, I am in Houston Tx but a transplant from Glasgow! Don’t you love this international blogging thing?!

17102008

B in MA(04:52:57) :

“Just for fun, try watching the video above and blink along.”

ROF!! I just spit coffee all over my screen!

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Go See Alice(05:31:10) :

thank you SO much for sharing, HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin.
That was powerful and very emotional to read. I like the thought of earth as a place of remedial ed and how people are working out their own therapies.
Wow.

My initial post focused on my thought that McAint had been treated for then- called ” shell shock” ( PTSD) with old-school meds after returning from captivity and that is why he displays what could be drug-caused involuntary head and facial movements.

In PA now, raised in Dunfermline. Granny from Harris. Family still in Scotland. Seriously thought of returning to the Highlands in the case of an Obama loss, except now we probably can’t afford it! And frankly, we love the USA which has given us and our children many opportunities. Let’s hope we can pass this on to generations to come.

thank you SO much for sharing, HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin.
That was powerful and very emotional to read. I like the thought of earth as a place of remedial ed and how people are working out their own therapies.
Wow.

My initial post focused on my thought that McAint had been treated for then- called ” shell shock” ( PTSD) with old-school meds after returning from captivity and that is why he displays what could be drug-caused involuntary head and facial movements.

You gave me a lot more to think about.
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Thank you Go See Alice for your kind comment. Your initial point was a point well taken and could certainly be a factor. I guess I got in essay mode last night. I apologize to anyone if I went overboard. This is all a very difficult topic for people who lived through the disorienting moral landscape of that era. A landscape that is still with us. Why oh why can’t this world change? Why? It is a question that still perplexes us all right down to the intense issues of this election. And that, of course, is why we are all here as children of the Mudflats…

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HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin(12:08:45) :

Here is the tune with a different sea.

There was hope in those days. Maybe we can make a change now. Maybe. I hope so.

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Denise ThatOneFromMSgaAZca(12:10:32) :

HamletsMill aka Rot Pipeline Palin (21:02:08) :

PTSD changes a person’s brain chemistry.
++++++++++++++++++++++

Agreed. PTSD is real. It occurs among all ages in all walks of life.

PTSD is getting lots of attention these days—-in some healthcare arenas. Not as much as it should in others. The military has been fighting to get troops to quit seeing PTSD as a weakness while often making it more difficult for troops to get treatment. Contradictory.

During WWI, it was called Shell Shock and British troops were literally shot for it. Acceptance of PTSD in the military has been an uphill battle. Not helped by Cindy McCain’s recent statement claiming her husband had been trained so as not to get PTSD. Loaded.

McCain comes as he is. Part of his personality may be shaped by untreated or treated PTSD. We don’t know because those medical records were not even among the ones that a select group of reporters were allowed to peek at.

IF McCain’s anger and behavior are in some part derivative of PTSD, then that is dangerous for us as a nation. Just as important as McCain having cancer or heart disease. Perhaps more so.

My passing familiarity with PTSD comes from recent grad work looking at prevention among disaster victims.

I lol’d when I read that someone thought McCain’s blinking was morse code …

but mostly because I misread it as

“moose code”.

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Terpsichore(17:36:45) :

I lol’d when I read that someone thought McCain’s blinking was morse code …

but mostly because I misread it as

“moose code”.

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daMamma(20:18:25) :

all that blinking just drove me nuts, I started doing it…. ack! I can’t take 4 years of non-stop blinking.

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Marnie(20:36:04) :

I work the grave yard shift in a hospital lab on the east coast, (Lots of mudflats and moose here too) and have not been able to see any of the debates so I have read quotes, reviews, critiques etc and watched clips of each. I watch clips with the sound and often again without because the facial and body English are sometimes more telling than the words.

Try it on this clip. Not only is there the facial, disbelief, look, which could have been acting, but McCain took two to three little gasping breaths about a second after the double take on what Obama had said. The guy was literally gut punched and about to go down, at least psychologically.
Of course if McCain had been studying Obama pronouncements, he would already have known the answer to that question.

Duhyba, McCain, stereotypical playboy son’s of Riches, and apparently Palin as well, were in the habit, at least as early as college, of blowing off their studies. Some people grow out this, but they have not. As a result they are constantly caught up short by the truth and the facts that support the truth.
Unfortunately, the press has been letting leaders like them get away with lies and flatulent BS for a couple of decades.

Hooray for the internet and the alternative news sites and political bloggers who may be truly changing the face of political (un)reality around the world.