"In Oceania at the present day, Science, in the old sense, has almost ceased to exist. In Newspeak there is no word for 'Science.' The empirical method of thought, on which all the scientific achievements of the past were founded, is opposed to the most fundamental principles of IngsocIntelligent design." - George Orwell, 1984, Book 1, Chapter 9

--------------"It’s not worth the effort to prove the obvious. Ridiculous ideas don’t deserve our time. Even the attempt to formulate ID is a generous accommodation." - ScottAndrews

idcurious has been silently banned, with some posts vanished. The UD regulars are clucking away how he's run off leaving their points unanswered. Just another day in that vacuum of intellect and integrity which is Uncommon Descent.

"In Oceania at the present day, Science, in the old sense, has almost ceased to exist. In Newspeak there is no word for 'Science.' The empirical method of thought, on which all the scientific achievements of the past were founded, is opposed to the most fundamental principles of IngsocIntelligent design." - George Orwell, 1984, Book 1, Chapter 9

"Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows." -George Orwell, 1984

Not the "freedom" to "compromise" and say that, looking at the same evidence, some conclude that it is 3.5, or the "freedom" to "teach the controversy" about it equaling 4.

--------------Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip?

AtBC Poet Laureate

"I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive

"In Oceania at the present day, Science, in the old sense, has almost ceased to exist. In Newspeak there is no word for 'Science.' The empirical method of thought, on which all the scientific achievements of the past were founded, is opposed to the most fundamental principles of IngsocIntelligent design." - George Orwell, 1984, Book 1, Chapter 9

"Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows." -George Orwell, 1984

Not the "freedom" to "compromise" and say that, looking at the same evidence, some conclude that it is 3.5, or the "freedom" to "teach the controversy" about it equaling 4.

And at the end of the book, he admitted that 2 + 2 = 5.

--------------"It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall

That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad

"In Oceania at the present day, Science, in the old sense, has almost ceased to exist. In Newspeak there is no word for 'Science.' The empirical method of thought, on which all the scientific achievements of the past were founded, is opposed to the most fundamental principles of IngsocIntelligent design." - George Orwell, 1984, Book 1, Chapter 9

"Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows." -George Orwell, 1984

Not the "freedom" to "compromise" and say that, looking at the same evidence, some conclude that it is 3.5, or the "freedom" to "teach the controversy" about it equaling 4.

And at the end of the book, he admitted that 2 + 2 = 5.

Exactly. As the folks at UD claim, someday we will all learn to love Big Brother Designer.

--------------Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip?

AtBC Poet Laureate

"I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive

"In Oceania at the present day, Science, in the old sense, has almost ceased to exist. In Newspeak there is no word for 'Science.' The empirical method of thought, on which all the scientific achievements of the past were founded, is opposed to the most fundamental principles of IngsocIntelligent design." - George Orwell, 1984, Book 1, Chapter 9

Yup-the few posts I've written in the last 3 1/2 days are still hidden. Cowards. They didn't have the decency to ban me publicly. I should demand my public banning NOW!

Can I again suggest a sock-withdrawal experiment. Being ignored is much less fun than being told you are wrong. It worked for a while at TT and, from personal experience, I know it works with children and dogs. Why not use Side-Wiki instead?

Can I again suggest a sock-withdrawal experiment. Being ignored is much less fun than being told you are wrong. It worked for a while at TT and, from personal experience, I know it works with children and dogs. Why not use Side-Wiki instead?

A good idea, and I like to read the posts on SideWiki, but my google email is through my school, which has blocked my access to making a profile so I can't post. I'll just have to live vicariously through the posts of others!

Sadly (because he often had a lot of intelligent things to say) Ilion is no longer with us.

Looking high and low, we DO find one intelligent comment to attribute to Iliot:

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Mr Arrington is pissed at me (for pointing out the fallacious nature of his pseudo-apology to a cartain DarwinDefender); his comment about the thin ice is a not-too-veiled threat (*) in retaliation to ban me from UD.

Just one. And that's "notpology," you iliot.

--------------Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."- David Foster Wallace

"Hereâ€™s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."- Barry Arrington

* Nullius in verba: = We don’t listen to just any old tattle, whether it be Mayor Bloomberg’s civic money-wasting Ida fossil or accusations of Holocaust denial. We follow up where we can and reserve judgement where we can’t. Here, we could follow up.

Irony if ever there was, but...well...I suppose it's some kind of start.

--------------we IDists rule in design for the flagellum and cilium largely because they do look designed. Bilbo

The only reason you reject Thor is because, like a cushion, you bear the imprint of the biggest arse that sat on you. Louis

But surely if Holocaust-denial were so obviously wrong, they'd be only too happy to debate it--with a bunch of tendentious morons who will never ever back off from their prejudices.

After all, we should be wanting to do nothing but churn through a bunch of hackneyed garbage that's been repeatedly exposed for 150 years. Let alone teach the "weaknesses" of evolutionary theory--which include not documenting everything that critics demand. No one has documented everything the Holocaust deniers demand, either.

They don't think they should have to bother with prejudiced ignorant morons? And we should? OK, for LOLs in their case...

I'm thinking the super-sleuthing consisted of clicking on the tab with the Uncommonly Dense thread in it. I also find this bit amusing:

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But we weren’t kidding when we said that Holocaust denial is unpopular here.

Well, of course it's not. You can't blame Darwin for it if it never happened.

ETA: Oh, nevermind. I see from the comments over there that he just clicked on a link Elizabeth Liddle provided for him.That's some mighty fine sleuthin' there, Vince.

--------------I wouldn't be bothered reading about the selfish gene because it has never been identified. -- Denyse O'Leary, professional moronAgain "how much". I don't think that's a good way to be quantitative.-- gpuccio

GinoB is out. What's that like? Our reporter caught up with him at the Barking Spider:

"That post seems to have finally sent KF over the edge because I now find myself silently banned. My last six posts over the previous two days, all polite responses with links to technical information, were immediately set to 'awaiting moderation' and all were summarily deleted in a few hours. Of course all the while KF and crew were taking pot shots at me when I wasn't able to respond.

"The non-stop dishonesty and cowardice of the UD moderators, especially you Gordon E. Mullings of Montserrat, is truly stomaching-turning.

Gino B."

Film at eleven. Film also coating Gordon's teeth.

--------------Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."- David Foster Wallace

"Hereâ€™s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."- Barry Arrington

ED: Jello has been instructed to remove himself from any and all threads I post at UD, on previous abusive behaviour. I have therefore removed his distractive, off-topic and abusive comment. He apparently cannot resist the temptation to be disruptive.

At UD, there's not always room for Jello.

--------------Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."- David Foster Wallace

"Hereâ€™s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."- Barry Arrington

The oxymoron that is ID News is merely a synonym for the bitter, and impotent rantings of those scattered die-hards who have yet to understand that the promised scientific, cultural and spiritual revolution has failed.

Uncommon Descent is reminiscent of Hitler’s bunker in the last days of the war – deluded individuals pushing imaginary battalions of IDEA clubs across the map; an ethereal post-apocalyptic radio station, defiantly transmitting songs of resistance and hope to the faithful.

Lol.

As it is written, so it shall be done:

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Editors: Street Theatre is no longer with us. Coming onto this site and making arguments: Always welcome. But if you do nothing but spew invective, you will be shown the door.

--------------And the set of natural numbers is also the set that starts at 0 and goes to the largest number. -- Joe G