1% taxes VS the bottom 20% taxes WOW

the bottom 20% of tax payers pay MUCH more taxes as a percentage than the very very wealthy
every single state in america the top 1% is soaking the poor with unfair taxes

i think the top 1% should pay AT LEAST the same rates

The Corporation for Enterprise Development recently released a scorecard for all 50 states, and it has boatloads of useful information. That
includes overall tax rates, where data from the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy shows that in the median state (Mississippi, as it turns
out) the poorest 20 percent pay twice the tax rate of the top 1 percent. In the worst states, the poorest 20 percent pay five to six times the rate of
the richest 1 percent. Lucky duckies indeed. There's not one single state with a tax system that's progressive. Check the table below to see how your
state scores.

The rich pay low taxes because they are the business owners and producers.

Let me clue you in on something, you can't tax the rich.

Crap rolls down hill, and the working man is at the bottom.

Any tax on business will immediately be passed through in the form of higher prices.

Any tax on investors will immediately be passed on to the back of working people in the form of fewer PRODUCTIVE jobs. The State will simply spend
the money on cronyism or adding more useless bureaucrats to its payrolls.

Fewer productive jobs means less people making washing machines and more people issuing parking tickets. Parking tickets do not improve people's
lives. The washing machine on the other hand does.

What people who babble about "the poor pay no taxes" fail to realize is that the working poor actually do pay taxes.

They get it back the end of the year after the government has already used their money to keep running all year and inflation has already eaten up
~3-5% of the purchasing power.

The net affect is that they pay very little in the way of personal, direct federal income taxes, but to say that they pay no tax is a misnomer, as
anybody who works for near-poverty wages can tell you when they get their paycheck every week.

Also, when you consider that the upper class can afford accountants to find them all those juicy loopholes or can put their money in offshore
accounts, I have no doubt that the overall burden is light.

It's the middle class that gets screwed, and the people who have been shipping all your jobs overseas and screwing you over to make a quick buck are
trying to brainwash you to blame the people who sweep the floors, clean the toilets, and check out your groceries and convince you that they are
entirely at fault.

Of course Neo's all over this. How silly we are for thinking the rules should be fair. Why would we ever want the rich to pay the same percentage as
the poor? My goodness, don't we all understand that those 1% folks have all the burden and none of the benefit? Where is our sense of human
decency?

Every rich person provides jobs or produces something? What about wall street investors? What are they producing?

Nothing. They become rich off the backs of everyone else while contributing nothing to society. So why are they paying lower tax rates than the rest
of us? Because they are rich enough to not only change tax laws to favor them, but they can afford to hire countless tax professionals to find every
bogus loophole there is. The tax code needs to be changed to benefit only those companies who really create good paying jobs and have a positive
effect on society. That wont happen while we have corporate dictators running the show.

I think your right though. If we tax the businesses who create real jobs and produce goods, they will most definitely pass the bill to us. They have a
monopoly on all the money. They pay their workers less and less while paying less and less taxes and if they are threatened to pay more, they threaten
us. They wont give back any of it either, so the middle class is left to foot the tax bill while making less. We will continue on this path until the
people wont have any money to buy the products and services being produced, and society will collapse.

Tell me about it, we made 40 something thousand (don't want to give the exact number) and we will not be getting anything back this year (family of
3). Was expecting to get back the eic and push down some debt but oh well.

I am glad that we make this much, unfortunately its between 2 full time adults.

I live in Washington state...which is at the top of this list. I got $8.00 back from Uncle Sam. I make less than $30,000 a year in taxable
income. My next door neighbor owns a chain of health/fitness centers. He just bought a new car and a boat.

Originally posted by gwynnhwyfar
Of course Neo's all over this. How silly we are for thinking the rules should be fair. Why would we ever want the rich to pay the same percentage as
the poor? My goodness, don't we all understand that those 1% folks have all the burden and none of the benefit? Where is our sense of human
decency?

edit on 5-0220122-1212 by gwynnhwyfar because: (no reason given)

What else is new?

He always feels the need to try and influence us to believe that the super wealthy are always the poor, poor suffering victims all the time.

And here we have those "luckie-duckie" tax-exempt folks who barely make enough to live in a cardboard box and eat scraps, struggling to survive even
on their BEST DAY!

Those luckie-duckies have it SO great while those POOR SUFFERING super-wealthy are hurting so bad. Lets all shed a tear for them as Neo thinks we all
should.

Every rich person provides jobs or produces something? What about wall street investors? What are they producing?

Nothing. They become rich off the backs of everyone else while contributing nothing to society. So why are they paying lower tax rates than the rest
of us? Because they are rich enough to not only change tax laws to favor them, but they can afford to hire countless tax professionals to find every
bogus loophole there is. The tax code needs to be changed to benefit only those companies who really create good paying jobs and have a positive
effect on society. That wont happen while we have corporate dictators running the show.

I think your right though. If we tax the businesses who create real jobs and produce goods, they will most definitely pass the bill to us. They have a
monopoly on all the money. They pay their workers less and less while paying less and less taxes and if they are threatened to pay more, they threaten
us. They wont give back any of it either, so the middle class is left to foot the tax bill while making less. We will continue on this path until the
people wont have any money to buy the products and services being produced, and society will collapse.

Business owners, huh? Most average business owners (the majority) ARE the middle class.

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