9.
John Olerud, 1b, Mariners
20 more HRs and 60 more RBIs than Mark Grace from ages 30-33.

10.
Ray Durham, 2b, Athletics
May not get as much as he’d like with Kent and Alfonzo on the market.

duke of dorwood

10-30-2002, 03:38 PM

I'm stunned that Paul Byrd, a younger pitcher, isnt on that list. I cant believe he'd fall thru the cracks down to where we'd have a chance at him.

RichH55

10-30-2002, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by duke of dorwood
I'm stunned that Paul Byrd, a younger pitcher, isnt on that list. I cant believe he'd fall thru the cracks down to where we'd have a chance at him.

Isnt Byrd like 32? Well I guess that does qualify as younger, but not by much......Give me Moyer and his 82 mph fastball any day of the week

hold2dibber

10-30-2002, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by duke of dorwood
I'm stunned that Paul Byrd, a younger pitcher, isnt on that list. I cant believe he'd fall thru the cracks down to where we'd have a chance at him.

I think Byrd is okay, but I don't see any reason to think he's going to be a world beater any time soon. Plus, he's had injury problems in his career. I wouldn't mind seeing the Sox pick him up, but not for a ton of $ or more than 2 years.

Daver

10-30-2002, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by hold2dibber
I think Byrd is okay, but I don't see any reason to think he's going to be a world beater any time soon. Plus, he's had injury problems in his career. I wouldn't mind seeing the Sox pick him up, but not for a ton of $ or more than 2 years.

Byrd is likely to re-sign with the Royals.

idseer

10-30-2002, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by daver
Here it is.
4.
Ivan Rodriguez, c, Rangers
Teams will have to decide how much catching is left in Pudge.

how strange is this idea?

assuming frank is gone, sign irod for about $10M ... 2 or 3 years, maybe longer, as a DH! let him catch the occasional game but mostly help olivo along as our catcher of the future.
he's about 3 years younger than frank and should fill in nicely in franks absence with the additional bonus of shoring up the catching position. maybe dh'ing will allow him to play longer with fewer injuries!

Daver

10-30-2002, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by idseer
how strange is this idea?

assuming frank is gone, sign irod for about $10M ... 2 or 3 years, maybe longer, as a DH! let him catch the occasional game but mostly help olivo along as our catcher of the future.
he's about 3 years younger than frank and should fill in nicely in franks absence with the additional bonus of shoring up the catching position. maybe dh'ing will allow him to play longer with fewer injuries!

I mentioned this in another thread,but I will repeat it here,Ivan has been quoted more than once that he will not accept playing any position that is not catcher,and will probably put language in his next contract to guarantee that he plays behind the plate.

idseer

10-30-2002, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by daver
I mentioned this in another thread,but I will repeat it here,Ivan has been quoted more than once that he will not accept playing any position that is not catcher,and will probably put language in his next contract to guarantee that he plays behind the plate.

sorry, i missed that.
if true then maybe he's another one concerned only with himself and not the ultimate good of the team.
it seems obvious catching is too hard on the guy and you'd think he'd want to prolong his own career.

Daver

10-30-2002, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by idseer
sorry, i missed that.
if true then maybe he's another one concerned only with himself and not the ultimate good of the team.
it seems obvious catching is too hard on the guy and you'd think he'd want to prolong his own career.

As a former catcher I can relate to his wishes,I would not want to move from behind the plate,there is a mindset that goes with the position that you don't feel playing anywhere else on the feild.

That and the fact that his talents are wasted at any other position makes me think the best place for him is behind the plate,and he does not fit in the DH role all that well,not playing on the feild would distract from his overall play in my opinion.

Randar68

10-30-2002, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by idseer
sorry, i missed that.
if true then maybe he's another one concerned only with himself and not the ultimate good of the team.
it seems obvious catching is too hard on the guy and you'd think he'd want to prolong his own career.

Not the first person to call him selfish. Many of his pitchers in the past have privately complained about his game-calling as he would call fastballs in running counts to give himself a better chance of throwing guys out just in case they were to go.