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Thursday, April 5, 2012

Ruling: Vicente Zambada-Niebla Did Not Prove He Was an Informant

Frank Main for Chicago Sun Times

A federal judge
in Chicago refused Thursday to dismiss charges against a reputed Mexican drug
kingpin who claimed he was working as an informant for the government. Vicente
Zambada-Niebla failed to provide evidence to rebut the government’s contention
that he was never granted immunity from prosecution on drug-trafficking
charges, U.S. District Judge Ruben Castillo found.

Zambada-Niebla
is the highest-ranking reputed member of the Sinaloa cartel in U.S. custody in
a case being tried in Chicago against members of the drug-trafficking
organization which authorities say is headed by Joaquin “Chapo” Guzman,
described by the U.S. Treasury Department as the “world’s most powerful drug
trafficker.”

Castillo’s
written ruling offers a glimpse into the secret workings of the U.S. Drug
Enforcement Administration in Mexico.

According to
the judge’s ruling, Sinaloa cartel lawyer Humberto Loya-Castro was a confidant
to Guzman and right-hand man Ismael Zambada-Garcia, who is Zambada-Niebla’s
father.

After
Loya-Castro was charged in a narcotics case in California in 1995, he started
providing information to DEA agents about Mexican drug trafficking. The case
against Loya-Castro was dismissed in 2008 at the request of prosecutors.

In 2008, he
proposed a meeting between his DEA contact and Zambada-Niebla. On March 17,
2009, they met with DEA agents at a hotel in Mexico City. Hours later,
Zambada-Niebla was arrested by Mexican officials.

Prosecutors
say Loya-Castro brought Zambada-Niebla to meet DEA agents at the hotel against
the agents’ instructions.

“According to
the government, [Zambada-Niebla] conveyed his interest and willingness to
cooperate with the U.S. government, but the DEA agents told him they ‘were not
authorized to meet with him, much less have substantive discussions with him,’
” the judge wrote.

Zambada-Niebla
argued that Loya-Castro had negotiated an immunity deal for him; that he
provided information to Loya-Castro about rival cartels that was then passed on
to the U.S. government; and that he traveled to Mexico City at great risk to
himself for the meeting with DEA agents because he was assured he had immunity
from prosecution.

The judge
said Zambada-Niebla didn’t present enough evidence to refute the government’s
position that he was never granted immunity.

Last year,
Zambada-Niebla was moved from the federal lockup in Chicago to a prison in
Michigan after complaining about conditions in the Chicago lockup. Federal
authorities were concerned he was an escape risk and potential assassination
target.

In an
unrelated drug-trafficking case in Chicago last year, a defendant testified
that he met Zambada-Niebla in the federal lockup here and that Zambada-Niebla
sought information to have two co-defendants killed. Those defendants — Chicago
natives Pedro and Margarito Flores — are cooperating with prosecutors in the
case against Zambada-Niebla, court records show.

Like the govt was going to say, "yes he is one of ours." I don't doubt he was an informant, just look at the way Obama and Holder are treating The Fast and the Furious program-scandal. There is a bigger reason why they've pretty much told Republicans to fuck off. I am by no means a Republican, I voted for Obama, and will vote for him again (The candidates the Reps have running are a bunch of morons).

Good now let's behead him To teach them that this what happensWhen your a drug smuggler And let's behead druggies tooAnd cuse the gas chamber is less scarythan getting beheaded and just watchAll this go away

Seems he should have been able to provide ample material to back of his claim, if he was an informant. He had his chance. Now, lots more boo-hooing about missed hair appointments with his favorite stylist in the old hooos-cow for him.

April 5, 2012 5:39 PM ."He was working for the other cartel the DEA. That's fucked up they used him but its ok well b getting our hands on a dea soon"Look at this clown.Who are you trying to kid.Rocky.We,ll have a DEA soon?What a prick.You just make yourself out to be a complete and utter crank,comin on here,as if you know"el vicentillo"Give me a fucking break from these sad clown ass idiots."El vicentillo""El Prickedillo"your hero,is snitching his ass off right now.And wherever he is he deserves to be,hopefully doing hard time on lock-down 23 hours a day.A PC case,for his own good.These people posting on here act as though they know this guy?What is that all about,like we all get cut up about some celebrity we don't know,pathetic sheep.

It really is hard to believe some of these numbers,you got Felipe Cabrera talking to one of these Flores about quality,and they discussing 13 keys,one half is good,and the other must have been stood on.And you got Chapo,Mayo knowing about these amounts?Something don't smell right.The DEA,talking about tons of coke and heroin,and then Guzman,Mayo,Cabrera,talkin about keys?I can believe tons of Green,but the class A,s,something don't sound right.We all know the way the authorities use the media,to their own ends,and always lie about amounts,especially in terms of world know guys like Chapo/Mayo,but these amounts,with these guys,it just doesn't sound right,but who knows?

That's funny, a criminal who wants to be labeled a rat. Most would run from that label like their hair was on fire. No wonder he's considered a target. but you know, money talks, all the prison gangs will give him a pass if means they get a direct connect to the other CDS people's drugs. Fucking criminals today don't hold up under stress...quick to order a execution like nothing, then cry like bitches when they get caught, and/or sell out their values for some commissary top ramen... i hope this rat gets got

He couldn't prove his innocense because the US didn't want to release documents that backup his argument. The argument used by the us is " we cannot release the documents because it would be a threat to national security" so i dobg think he couldn't prove he just didn't have a proper trial. Im a criminologist and not just speculating. I've been following those case and i can say great job at covering up your fuck ups usa.

I know my grammar is not.ok i always post from my android and the nutshell constantly fucks up my words..no i don't have a.dragree yet but in working on it. And.your best argument was Atcking.my grammar ,well learn.to argue before you switch the topic ..like i said in my post Good Covering your FUck ups USA

Ps: zamabada Can still appeal his case. BECAUSE ITS DOUBLE JEOPARDY. IF YOU KNOW ABOUT AMERICAN.JUDICIAL SYSTEM ,THIS IS WHAT OCCURRED HERE. DOUBLE JEOPARDY . AND GUESS WHAT THIS IS COMING FROM A MEXICAN WHO KNOWS MORE ABOUT US laws rather then the so called "superior Americans" yeah right more like " i cant defend my argument so i would use sarcasm or anything that would take your attention from making me look like a idiot." Right isn't this every American? Be a patriot and speak up ,even about.wrong doings by your country because that's a real patriot.

Cmon paisano u sound like they dnt teach us about da american judicial system in high school, the point of the matter is vicente zambada deserves everything he gets and dis is something for u guys to think about,i had heard from a friend in culichi dat vicente had inadvertantly had something to do with da death of chapos son,and wen i checked it out online it popped up,u guys should look it up!

he was murdering people while being an FBI informant and even the FBI agent handling him went to prison

USA agencies by policy cannot have informants that break laws that even police cant like murder. that don't mean the agencies wont lead anyone on or give "blackops" protection like tip offs for human intelligence purposes

but someone must of pulled a string for him because 25 years is a sweetheart deal for someone like him i seen people get more time for a lot less then this guy did especially in the feds

I do believe he was working for DEA. What so hard to believe about it?? Remember Iran -Contra (Nicaraguan-Cali -Cartel) remember General Manuel Noriega DEA agent ,remember Saddam Hussien (Iran-Iraq war),remember Bin Ladden (Soviet-Afgan war) were all agents of USA

Puro Sinaloa. Just goes to show that the DEA are liars. Anyways the cartels are wining the war soon enough mexico will have a new president and the dea's campaign on trying to control the drug business will go to shi*. You guys are all worried about the illegals here, worry about those of us born here ready for the call to go to war. Good luck gringos, you already lost and are to blind to see. A TODA MADRE O UN DESMADRE PLEBADA

April 6, 2012 3:20 PM .Anyone who has had dealings with the police,or similar authority,know they lie all the time.Don't get me wrong,he's a big boy,and he probably has known of people getting killed on his say so,so fuck him.But as for the authority's,i agree with you.They most definitely hold things back,things that we should see.What the fuck is crying national security,except as a cover all for things they wish to keep secret.

April 7, 2012 6:32 PM .Whoop de fuckin doo,you know about the law.What the fuck are all these bitter,jealous motherfuckers in the US for?Its not our fault yall can't organize shit,its your fault.If you don't like the US,it is so easy to fuck off.Mexico is callin all the bitch ass haters.

to the guy talking about gringos lose cause so many illegals and ones born here to take over USA

USA has enough empty prison camp space to hold everyone in USA that looks like they from Mexico or south of it if marshal law is declared just like all the Japanese were locked in prison camps during WW2

Is funny ,since the "minorities are now the majorities....and your bullshit Marshall laws. Ja encased you didn't know you would also be affected ny the Marshall law. Stupidity is what makes you think only illgelas would be affected by it. Answers talk shit about illegal . At the end.of.the day we the illegal Pay taxes.so you welfare.and.people who play the system can live good. NEXT TIME YOU TALK SHIT REMEMBER MOST.OF ILLEGAL PAY TAXES WHICH THEY NEVER GET BACK,THEY KNOW MORE ABOUT USA THEN.THEIR OWN."people " so before.you go on ranting about shit. Inform.your self because we were the past.,we are the present and we immigrants legal or illegal would be the future of the.United states America. And.just to shut u up read the 14th amendment and you will see why Marshall law won't be able to process anymore like it did before.

They file tax returns and get money back every year for income children and homes and they have kids for free isnt that wefare and im sure most landscapers construction cooks and dealers pay nothing while they have 3 families in 1 home but pay single family home propery taxes so they work the system

It was his duty to have documentation that support HIS claims, and his lawyer would have added it to the evidence when both sides went into 'discovery'.Anything would have worked: a letter containing some kind of tip, a recorded conversation between at least one agent, or simply paying an agent to say that he was the one responsible for xyz tip where -noun- was captured.

T.L.D.R version: It's not in the prosecuter's interest to aid the defense... in ANY case. That's why one is given the option of at least having a lawyer appointed to represent them.

National threat¿ Is that how scared the US is about everyone finding out that they support certain drug cartels? Pathetic.

Its like sayin operation fast and furious was Mexicos idea haha fuckin gringos canr wait for karma to come back and haunt you guys down.

Send more assault rifles to mexico its only mexicans the ones getting killed,cant wait for the Zetas and their ulimited manpower of street thugs to cause mayhem in the richest suburbs of the United States,see how the gringos react,haha they cant even control local street gangs from expanding much less organized drug cartels.

If you think about it,Why would he make something up that has definitely ruined his rep & would put his family in even more danger?Saying he was an informant working for the DEA?The Government branches do it all the time,FBI,CIA,DEA...they have shady back-room dealings more often than you'd like to believe.Zambada screwed himself by not doing his homework & gathering evidence against the Agents he worked with.Look up El Cartel Del Norte Del Valle...AKA El Cartel De Los Sapos...that will give you some insight as to how the DEA works & handles its shady back stabbing informants...more often than not,they feed them to the wolves!!!

TRAICION : HE SHOULD'VE KNOWN DONT THEY TEACH THAT IN THE NARCOMANUAL? THATS WHY YOU HIDE IN THE MOUNTAIN LIKE AN ANIMAL BEING HUNTED, BECAUSE THATS WHAT YOU ARE. HE GOT CAUGHT IN THE CITY, HE SHOULD'VE STAYED IN THE MOUNTAIN. D.E.A DIRTY JUST LIKE THEM. REMEMBER LA BARBIE? WHATEVER HAPPENED TO HIM? FUNNY HOW THE DEA DONT PRESS FOR HIS EXTRADITION, BEING A USA CITIZEN? EITHER WAY ITS A GOOD THING HE'S IN JAIL. SAD THAT IT WON'T MAKE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE.

@ anon April 8, 2012 2:03 PM,Moron huh?You obviously dont use logic...by claiming to be an informant hes really putting his life in danger in prison even more so than those who keep their mouth shut!No Prison Gang would protect him now!As for paranoia,where does that fit in...why would I be paranoid you jack-ass??

Vicente Zambada should have kept records...he didn't, and now he should pay. It's similar to me wanting to return an item to Target and forgetting my receipt. If I tell them that the store managers have surveillance film showing that I indeed did buy the item in question, it's not their duty to prove that. It's also not worthy to mention the cashier that rang my purchase on that day, because who he or she could be a family memb, or a friend and be only helping me-there's no concrete piece of evidence. I would not be allowed to return my item-except for maybe a gift card.

In the end, V.Zambada wasn't allowed to return his ''item,'' but will be given a ''gift card'' for a few years off the prison sentence.

One would imagine that in a state of failure, such as the one v.Z is in, would grant the defendant hundreds of years in prison. It has been my observation that states a relationship among the population when their life's future is pending. Some claim insanity, some claim an unjust trial, while others claim pampering of the evidence. All of these, or at least one, are used to allow more time in ''discovery''. The defense can divide the task while this is going on. One member from v.Z's team can allege the informant idea, while the rest are ''mining for gold.''

There are many prisoners that'll protect v.Z while in prison. He has some of the biggest ties to most of the drugs now considered standard. The only issue I can see involves the location that he'll be surving time. v.Z would only need to watch out for rival prison gangs such as the H.P.Latinos, and the northerners of Cali 13.

I'm not a fan of the Sinaloa Craple -yes on purpose- but imagine that he'll be able to charm enough female or male prison guards and with the help of 25M+ each...be able to plan an escape with ease.

It's amazing to read all the sympathetic comments for this piece shit, who has done an untold amount of damage to Mexico like all DTO members. I find it ironic that some commenters on here have disdain for the US gov't but not for the drug king pins, who are the real culprits. As far as the US lying or using deceiving practices to infiltrate DTO's...well WTF do you think is supposed to happen. An undercover operation in itself is a farce, a lie designed to gain the trust of those criminals inside the organization! Just like the US Federal Law Enforcement agencies, like the DEA...actually buy drug shipments through CI's from cartels, in an effort to establish evidence of the crime (suppliers and key players in the business). There is no other way..these cases take months/years to establish but the ending result is usually an "iron clad" case against the offenders, who in turn accept plea deals...offering inside detail information about DTO's. Bottom line all top cartel bosses are snitches...especially those who get caught. There is an old saying "there is no honor among thieves!" For those of you, who think DTO's are made up of secretive...honorable men, you are ignorant! Chapo, Lazcano, Mayo, EL Cos, and others would "sell out" their own mothers, if it meant escaping American justice and keeping their fortunes alive.

And for the ass clown, who thinks the Sinaloa cartel is going to seek revenge against the DEA because of Zambada-Niebla's troubles in US courts...lol, your funny! I got news for you, as far as Chapo and Mayo are concerned he's already forgotten about!

4/07 11:05AMReally!?, your waiting on the call...lol. So, your going to trade your shovel in for a gun and spread dissidence on US streets. Good luck with that "Che!" In reality, your not going to do shit! You know you look and sound stupid, when you try and appear like a tough guy on an "anonymous blog site. Puro Sinaloa..hmmm more like Puro bullshit!

HA ha ha after all the death he has brought to so many families. I hope they gut his ass in his cell and so his pops can watch on tv knowing he can't do shit. And that way he feels the pain other families felt when they saw there loved ones dead and gutted.

Who Out There thinks that this Scum Bag has one Ioda of honor??? This peice of shit is saying he's a "Federal Snitch" and that the US FederalSystem fucked him..? Can you beleive this scum bag?? This is the same peice of shit that has ordered many mexicans as well as americans to be horendously murdered and tortured and Now He wants to Play Ball! Beleive me if he wasn't locked up; he still would be part of that samecrew as his No Balls Father and the "Short Fat One"!!

The bottom line is that what went around came aorund. Its that simple. In another year or two this loser will be rememebered by almost no one. He will spend the rest of his young years growing old in a cold cage with no woman or family , just thoughts and dreams of how it use to be before he died and wenty to Supermaxs Hell. Year after LONG Year waiting for nothing , just death and the realization that the world went on without him. HAHAHA- Stupid motherfucker. He got his own now!!Fucking asshole. I hope it was worth it!!!

That Michigan Pen is bought out already, its just a matter of time before THE PRINCE gets his Escape and all yous Stupid fucking hipocrit Americans complain about people like this when in reality its your children out there funding the drug market.. While your out being a slut your little John Doe is going hard on the Drugs.. So put some fucking brain into it and put 1 and 1 together... Their wouldnt be a drug market if yous Americans wernt so stupid... And we all know the American government government funds it to cause they use it as an investment, "sure we.ll let you by.pass drugs, in return we.ll fill up our prisons with drug users n dealers that way the government gets its money". So before u shake your head at a gangbanger out on the corner, a dealer or even the government remember that its your kids funding it all..

U guys are all brainwashed with this media n whose a snitch n who fucked up!! It's fucken business!!! if the "U.S" wanted to get Zambada or Chapo they would of already!! They got Bin Laden cus he hit the U.S in the nuts can't no one get away with that lol... It's a never ending story so shut the fuck up!!! Whose right n whose wrong no one is!! now get back to drinking Mexican beer and some Mexican blow u greedy gringos Pussy bitches won't step a foot into Mexico but point the fucken fingers n say that's the bad guy!!! N don't write back cus if u do that means ur a snitch too n One wants a snitch specially gringos lol

El Vicentillo will go free whether its unannounced or announced. I see everyone here seems to think he wont make it in prison what you dumb gringos don't realize most gangs even your redneck gangs have packs. So hes more then protected in there Puro Sinaloa Puro 18st

LOL I have heard it all now. @ April 7th @10:15am. So you're going to answer a call to go to war with the US? Really? Seriously the amount of racism on here is crazy. You're going to be waiting a LONG time if you're looking to go to war with America. The cartels, and the Mexican Government both know the results to that proposition.

18th st sucks and swallows. little vincent has been sucking dea since he was extradited. they love him because he sings like bird - everything, names, dates, amounts. they know everything about 18th because he told them. these narco guys are funny. big tough guys until they get caught then they snitch their mother for a pair of socks.

11:05 AM is ready and waiting for the call to go to war on the gringos. He was born in the US but he don't like it. He thinks he's undercover so the gringos believe his smiling and bowing and scraping. He wants to make the US a fucking mess like Mexico. So if you don't like it here why do you stay? Because it's 1000% better than any other country you can get into.

This was great i read every single comment, some were great others were stupid... I just know these people have alot money and no one knows Or see them but they are considered celebrities. Its crazy each side is equally as guilty it all about money. Drugs have been around for ever its not new. The difference is now were all aware of them and see it hear it and read about it. What ever happends to him is out of pur control Every one dies and these dudes will become legends just like copone, gotti and escobar..

he had immunity if you look deep enough you can find records saying whicj agents he met up with biut they only say the last names of the agents the U.S gov just was doing it to fuck him over in the long run the CIA is just dooing what it wants and no one can tell them what do to do also the CIA killed el senor de los cielos they said he died of a heart attack but its just a cover up el senor de los cielos was a good man ... and mexico loves el chapo thats why they cant find him becasue he build houses school and roads for the poor

the snitch comments are very comical. you ignorants believe everything you see on TV. This Sinaloan Cartel Kingpin snitch or not a snitch, im sure his sentence will be reduced significantly fines will be covered. His wealth and business will be waiting for his return in Sinaloa.