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We took another look at the local masjids (there is more than one in lower Manhattan) and the murderous devastation at Ground Zero that was caused by Muslim terrorists.

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It seems good sense and sensitivity are missing as these masjids compete to build larger and larger mosques at Ground Zero; in a city that remains under assault by Islamists (most recently the Times Square bomber)

Smaller Mosque Near Ground Zero by Ed Barnes – FOXNews.comAs controversy surrounds the construction of a 13-story mosque just two blocks from Ground Zero, FOX News has learned that an effort to place a second mosque close to the hallowed site in New York City is in its advanced stages.

As controversy surrounds the construction of a 13-story mosque just two blocks from Ground Zero, FOX News has learned that an effort to place a second mosque close to the hallowed site in New York City is in its advanced stages.

The Masjid Mosque has raised $8.5 million and is seeking an additional $2.5 million to begin construction. While it apparently has not settled on a final location, it has told donors it plans to build very close to where 3,000 people were killed in the September 11 terror attacks.

In fact, the website appealing for donations boldly states that it plans to “build the ‘House of Allah’ next to the World Trade Center. Help us raise the flag of ‘LA ILLAH ILLA ALLAH’ in downtown Manhattan.”

One source said he believed the planners are considering a five-story building on 23 Park Place, closer to Ground Zero than the 13-story mosque the Cordoba Initiative is planning to build. But a tax record search shows that 23 Park Place is in private hands and has not changed owners since 2008.

Unlike the massive $100 million Cordoba House mosque, the Masjid Mosque is small – and it is no stranger to the neighborhood. Since 1970 it had been located at 12 Warren Street, about four blocks north of the World Trade Center, in a neat but nondescript industrial space that once housed a printing shop. It lost its lease in 2008 when the building was sold, and it was evicted from its second-floor prayer space on May 25 of that year. Since then it has been operating out a cramped basement space in a nearby building at 20 Warren Street.

On Friday evenings the mosque, which is popular with street vendors and taxi drivers, becomes so crowded that worshipers spill onto nearby sidewalks to pray in what has come to be a community event.

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In Belgium we have a booming of mosques.
We have enough of those people. Our women are whores because they do not where a nikab.
America open your eyes, before islam is closing them. They are the real fascists.

I reach to you from 10000 miles from kashmir. Everytime Islamic barbarians destroyed anything in kashmir and Indian subcontinent which was Non Muslim in nature in last 1200 years , they created Mosque over the same site. Whether it is Krishna Janambhoomi ( Lord Krishnas Birth place ) or Lord Ramas Birthplace( Ram janambhoomi ). It is sinister campaign of Islam from last 1400 yrs and we should fall pray to it. We must oppose tooth and nail from Kashmir to California..Muslim Militants and terrorists killed my whole family because we were NON muslims and in the name os Islam 1 million HIndus and minorities were exiled from kashmir. We msut not let them succeed in Democratic and civilized world.

I was going to say exactly this. These guys have taken over our land too. Moslems demanded India to give away land to them in 1947, after which they orchestrated a mass exodus of nonmuslims from the regions given to them. My family is one unfortunate among them evicted from what is bangladesh now. After 1947, these states became islamic, but hindu majority india remained secular and home to millions of muslims. Till date the exodus from pakistan and bangladesh is continuing, recently there was an unprecedented attack on chakma buddhists in bangladesh driving them into India! Kashmiri pandits genocide is another terrible atrocity on nonmuslims who stayed in kashmir region for last 5000 years. Millions are evicted from kashmir and forced to stay in tents for last 20 years waiting to get back to their biologically suitable climate. Yet no media (mostly leftist) no govt, no human rights organisation talk about it! West should wake up, common americans should wake up to face the fanatic islamists and how they pressurise and torture the minorities wherever they become the majority.
The proposed mosque might be another ploy of making ‘victory sign’, which they have made in India, middle east after vanquishing temples, sinagogues and churches. Resist this sinister ploy tooth and nail. Right thinking moslems should oppose it to show if they care a single bit.

Unbelievable! 30 years ago, there were no veils, scarves or burquas in most of the western world. Today, they are everywhere… I seem to remember, from my history books, that Constantinople (today Istambul) took about 200 years to fall into Muslims hands. I have no doubts that similar forces are at work today. How long will it take, this time, for our civilization to fall??? It started with the scarves invasion, then the suicides bombings, it is continuing with this building over (or as close as they can) what is sacred to us; Our beliefs, our way of life is questioned, rejected and attacked…
I am an atheist myself but I like all these signs of Christianity surrounding us, in our schools, museums, public places, because they remind me of my past, my ancestors, even if I choose to think differently.
I do hope that something will happen that my grandchildren will not have to grow up listening to the sound of the muezzin. Why, oh why is my generation allowing the destruction of our shared past we hold so dear… I watched again recently A.I. Artificial Intelligence and felt again so sad to see the towers, which are not there anymore. Nothing, nothing connected to the beliefs of those who destroyed them should be allowed to be built near by, because the towers were destroyed and 3000 lives were lost because of these beliefs.

Listen man I am a Lebanese Arab. Al Aqsa is still there and will never be demolished, BECAUSE CIVILIZED PEOPLE WILL NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN. Like the states and other countries. Then it is funny how frustrated you are for something that didn’t happen and How about all the Christians Juish and other religion getting massacred every day in the name of ISLAM. And you Dare Talk About ONE Mosque that didn’t get Demolished.
Plus to your Knowledge we have accepted PALESTINIAN Refugees To come into LEBANON and the ended by fighting my people for there damned country…. So please stop…

I think it’s cruel building a mosque on Ground Zero, whatever the purpose is. I’m a muslim,too. I will be ashamed if this project continues.
But, stop pointing fingers to ALL muslims. As every good muslim will know a strong teaching from the Koran:

I do not worship what you worship,
nor do you worship what I worship.
And I will not worship what you worship,
Nor will you worship what I worship.
Your way is yours, and my way is mine.

Which means difference are OK and you can worship anything you like and leave it at that, no point in turning everybody into Muslims.

if they say killing and bombing (unless it’s a defensive act, which is the same as the actual law) are part of the teaching they’re idiots, cause it’s never mentioned anywhere. Plus if they’re screaming “God is Great” while doing those stupid offensive acts, I’m sure they’ll burn in hell.

We are not against islam, we are against political islam. Which means making religion a tool to oppress nonmuslims. There is no need to build a mosque exactly at that place, why rauf is so keen on the location? After all political islam was the ideology behind the deaths of 3000 people. It points to something very ugly and insensitive, and we oppose that.

Your saying : “if they say killing and bombing (unless it’s a defensive act, which is the same as the actual law) are part of the teaching they’re idiots.”

“unless it’s a defensive act, which is the same as the actual law” is just revealed the kind of mentality you have.

Yes, bombing is not part of the teaching because on 7th century there are no bomb technology in Arab. But killing – I think you should be honest to mention that part of the teaching is permitting to spill non-moslems blood.

Oh, maybe you can tell it to those volunteers for suicide bombing?
Maybe you should be honest to mention here too that the motivation of doing that is the reward of living in heaven with 72 angels who always be virgins. So, please try to help convincing them that they are wrong, because there are so many of them out there who believe in that teaching, will you?

donny, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world not because of converts as there are more converting away from Islam than to Islam. It’s the fastest growing because Muslims procreate at a higher rate than any other religions, including atheism, and because Muslims tend to kill the non-Muslims in their midst, thus decreasing the number of other religions’ believers.

No, rony, it’s a self-destruct and murderous intention that Muslims have. When was the last time you read a news story about a Christian suicide bomber blowing up a bunch of people in a subway? When was the last time a Hindu set his crotch on fire in an attempt to blow up an airplane full of people mid-flight? When was the last time a group of Buddhist men tore a murderous trail through a church full of women and children?

It’s not all humans or all religions. It’s Islam that is destructive and murderous.

Correct!….they did it on a better way….kill many-many more by embargo or chemical weapons…it’s a massive blind killing, with women, children and elder people as victims, you seems to forget about that, and no, they still not a terrorists…JUST because they are not moslems, that simple…and if they fight back, with limited weapon they have, they have to specify their target…it is wrong still i know…all moslem know, because that is not the way moslem should does…they taking it too far, yes…but if you see what they see, feel what they feel, knowing that other people from other country taking their lands, killing their children, and they can’t do anything to stop it(how can they – even the UN can’t nor the GREAT America, which i’m pretty sure they know, but pretends like they don’t know, or they don’t want to know), maybe…just maybe you’ll understand.
Try to looks at different view my friend…

Again, i have to tell you, it’s not the religion that tell people to do the evil things…Islam grows fasts all over the world, if it’s a wrong religion…this will not happens…how can millions people around the world gone wrong…all the same time, just because their moslem…think!

It is necessary for all the freedom loving people in the world, whether they are in India, Israel, America and Europe to galvanise the opinion through every means available with us, about the great danger of radical Islam.

In fact, even the so-called moderate Muslims are dangerous because, at the end of the day, they are still willing to believe everything written in the Koran.

Sorry if I am sounding alarmist, but unfortunately, many of us in the Western societies are beginning to take our freedoms for granted. We have to use all the means at our end to get rid of societies like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and the entire gulf region in the present form and take a proactive role in creating secular democracies in those regions. That alone can guarantee a world which is peaceful and liberal.

I have never seen any moderate Muslims demonstrate against the atrocities and intolerance being practised in Saudi Arabia or other ‘Islamic countries’. In other words these so-called moderates are also silent abettors of the crimes going on in the name of Islam.

Just like you cannot be a moderate Nazi, you cannot believe in the full Koran and yet call yourself a ‘moderate Muslim’.

Either get rid of the violent bits in the Koran and believe in the revised Koran if a Muslim claims to be moderate, or convert from Islam and embrace a religion like Buddhism, Hinduism or Christianity.

What must we (including moderate Muslim brethren) do immediately :

1. We must use every means at our end like posting comments on Youtube videos especially videos which talk of allah etc., writing to newspapers, posting comments on boards to tell Muslims to revise their Koran and delete the violent and extremist parts of Koran
OR encourage them to convert, if that is not possible.

2. We should relentlessly use all possible media at our disposal especially the free internet etc. to create awareness of the tremendous criminality of societies like Saudi Arabia.

While the Muslims expect the west to provide all nature of freedoms to them, including the freedom to shout from the roof-tops of their mosques that allah is the only god, they deny even the minimum freedoms to minorities in countries where they have a huge majority.

In countries like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan or others the non-Muslims live a life of second class citizens. In Saudi Arabia there are no churches, temples or synagogues etc. The job advertisements in Saudi Arabia often ask that the person should be Muslim directly. Is this not a clear case of discrimination based on religion? Yet our appeasement minded politicians like Obama do not raise these stark horrifying issues when they talk to the Arabs?

Where is the tolerance that they demand that others should give them? When Muslim women in France want full freedom to cover their face, why are they not giving the same freedom to non-Muslims in Saudi Arabia to dress as they like?

While even the state of Israel has arab MPs, how many jewish politicians are there in the gulf states?

This terrible hypocrisy of this kind of Islam must be exposed relentlessly.

It it outrageous to even think about building a mosque near Ground Zero and an insult to the memory of all those who perished. Particularly because it will look down on the ground where so many people died.
Alice O.

I and many New Zealanders cannot believe that such an abomination as an Islamic Mosgue built so close to your tragedy can be allowed to happen. Do you realise that it will fully utilise and incorporate the Sharia faction of the Muslim religion…the same faction that thousands of Muslims escaped from to enjoy the freedoms of America? Please don’t let it happen America..it will be the worst insult of your history.I promise you, I will be the first person in your line of defence if you plan a march on such an attrocity!

How do you know about Islam and it’s mission? By news? Or you study it?

Islam base principal is Quran and Hadist(Sunnah), it’s teach peace, just like yours. Can you quote some article from Quran that show otherwise?

There are some articles tells about killing and blood, but the article is about war, you can’t take piece by piece, it’ll give you the wrong impression, and also, if you don’t know, don’t act like you know something, because it’ll lead to misunderstanding to ones who doesn’t know.