There is so much incorrect information in this thread I am going to just post this once and avoid replying to all the trolls.

My allergist, Dr Alan Lieberman of COEM, 7510 Northforest Drive, North Charleston, SC 29420, has had at least one patient who would literally convulse immediately if someone opened a jar of peanut butter in the same room. No mention of anaphylaxis was made, but that is a pretty large and immediate reaction to an air-borne allergen that is undeniably considered by most to be actual food.

As well, this man has quite literally saved my life, as I have a shellfish allergy so severe that I do, and have, head down the path to full anaphylactic shock merely from being in the same room with, or downwind of, either raw or cooked shellfish of any genus. It started with shrimp and has gotten progressively worse. Alan mapped this allergy for me and helped me to understand the full implications of it's effect on my life and I am still alive and fully functional because of this understanding.

I am quite aware that many, if not most, allergy whiners are quite likely attention whores who should just farking get on with their life. I have simply gotten on with it, and I only mention my condition in the process of attempting to be functional and Get Through My Day while avoiding the annoyance of sickness or dying.

I am not going to post the 1/2-inch thick documentation that I have on file, nor bother replying to the naysayers that will inevitably pop up. You can take my (and Alan's) word for it or not, but one can have very severe reactions including full anaphylaxis to air-borne allergens, including food. Anyone saying differently is disingenuous at best.

HindiDiscoMonster:People, the tit was made for a reason... use it with your babies, not a damn bottle... allergy issue gone.

Some people can't breastfeed. I tried to breastfeed my first son. My nipples cracked and started bleeding. By the time they were better my breasts became so engorged with milk they were hard as a rock the doctor couldn't even pump the milk. He had to bind my breasts to make the milk go away. The pain was awful. I ended up having to bottle feed my son. Don't be a dick.

seadoo2006:Count_Crackula: FTFA: But Miles Monroe, 8, of Bethesda, Md., who is allergic to milk, eggs and wheat..

Poor ol' Miles Monroe. His future looks pretty harsh, too:

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This. So much this. You people are purposely trying to protect genetic failures. Let them die the way god and nature intended ... in an anaphylactic shock from having peanuts force-fed to them by the school yard bully, Nelson.

Thank you for condeming my 8 year old to death for no reason other than her allergy offends you.....way to go humanity

Feindevil:seadoo2006: Count_Crackula: FTFA: But Miles Monroe, 8, of Bethesda, Md., who is allergic to milk, eggs and wheat..

Poor ol' Miles Monroe. His future looks pretty harsh, too:

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This. So much this. You people are purposely trying to protect genetic failures. Let them die the way god and nature intended ... in an anaphylactic shock from having peanuts force-fed to them by the school yard bully, Nelson.

Thank you for condeming my 8 year old to death for no reason other than her allergy offends you.....way to go humanity

hailin:What the hell is wrong with kids these days? Seriously are more and more people just becoming shiatty parents? I had a food allergy as a kid, so whenever people brought birthday snacks in the parents would make sure to include a variety so I could have something. If they couldn't (like the brought in a cake) they would just call my mom and she would send me in with a snack. My classmates also took care to make sure I avoided any foods that would trigger my allergies. It wasn't a big deal though and my allergy wasn't banned from the school. We also grew up with a kid who stuttered and someone with diabetes, but none of us were bullied because of it. Maybe I grew up in some sort of Stepford community, but it just wasn't a big deal back then.

Allergies may or may not be the result of genes. Scientists continue to argue about the cause of higher allergy rates in children. I like the theory that we are too clean. Our immune systems don't get attacked as much so they lock onto something that may not be as harmful such as peanuts or shellfish.

mysticcat:spitting milk at a child's face and causing a swift anaphylactic reaction.......

Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....

It doesn't work like that, people. Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous//board certified allergist

So when my child's allergy doctor tells us not to let him touch it because he could break out in hives, she's just lying to us? Please consider your comments before you post. Allergens on the skin can be dangerous too. If the child is exposed to their allergen, then they wipe their eyes, nose or mouth, the allergen can then enter their system. If you're an allergist, you know this. Unless, once again, you think our allergy doctor is lying to us.

Going to go with our allergy doctor on this one since her degrees on the wall of her office, and your random internet guy making claims.

Kirzania:Miles Monroe, 8, of Bethesda, Md., who is allergic to milk, eggs and wheat

Fark me, how does this happen??

mysticcat: Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."FTFA: Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child./confused//doesn't have food related allergies like this, obv

Well, for the first, my brother had that. He got over it because he wasn't exposed to any PARTICLES IN THE AIR, MYSTICCAT, WHICH CAN AND DO CAUSE ALLERGIC REACTIONS FOR FOOD ALLERGIES AND RESULTED IN MY BROTHER NOT BEING ALLOWED TO BE IN THE SAME HOUSE AS FRIED EGGS SO HIS THROAT DIDN'T SWELL UP.

/Slightly touchy about people who are like 'allergies, pfft, that's nothing!'//But yeah, particles? Can, and do, cause allergic reactions EVEN WITH FOOD.///And yes, those three exist in that combination. Hopefully the kids grow out of it.

PsiChick:Kirzania: Miles Monroe, 8, of Bethesda, Md., who is allergic to milk, eggs and wheat

Fark me, how does this happen??

mysticcat: Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."FTFA: Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child./confused//doesn't have food related allergies like this, obv

Well, for the first, my brother had that. He got over it because he wasn't exposed to any PARTICLES IN THE AIR, MYSTICCAT, WHICH CAN AND DO CAUSE ALLERGIC REACTIONS FOR FOOD ALLERGIES AND RESULTED IN MY BROTHER NOT BEING ALLOWED TO BE IN THE SAME HOUSE AS FRIED EGGS SO HIS THROAT DIDN'T SWELL UP.

/Slightly touchy about people who are like 'allergies, pfft, that's nothing!'//But yeah, particles? Can, and do, cause allergic reactions EVEN WITH FOOD.///And yes, those three exist in that combination. Hopefully the kids grow out of it.

Uh, I'm allergic to soft shell ... but you don't see me going to Red Lobster and then biatching because my throat swells up inside. If your crotch fruit is that deathly allergic to foods that they cannot be in the same vicinity as them, you either need to wrap them in a cellophane bubble (where, hopefully, they suffocate) or you need to home school them because they truly need to live sheltered lives.

However, if your allergy prevents me from bringing food on a plane, or giving my kid a PB&J sandwich at lunch, or having to throw away anything that slightly resembles the food allergies because your kid is coming over, THAT'S where I draw the line.

Don't purposely inconvenience others because you have a genetic mutant who, by nature, should die off.

seadoo2006:Uh, I'm allergic to soft shell ... but you don't see me going to Red Lobster and then biatching because my throat swells up inside. If your crotch fruit is that deathly allergic to foods that they cannot be in the same vicinity as them, you either need to wrap them in a cellophane bubble (where, hopefully, they suffocate) or you need to home school them because they truly need to live sheltered lives.

However, if your allergy prevents me from bringing food on a plane, or giving my kid a PB&J sandwich at lunch, or having to throw away anything that slightly resembles the food allergies because your kid is coming over, THAT'S where I draw the line.

Don't purposely inconvenience others because you have a genetic mutant who, by nature, should die off.

A) You just seriously made the argument that you believe in killing children with allergies. Did you think before typing that?

B) Said children actually do have all the same rights you and your own children do, including the right to experience society. They have allergies, they're not farking felons.

PsiChick:seadoo2006: Uh, I'm allergic to soft shell ... but you don't see me going to Red Lobster and then biatching because my throat swells up inside. If your crotch fruit is that deathly allergic to foods that they cannot be in the same vicinity as them, you either need to wrap them in a cellophane bubble (where, hopefully, they suffocate) or you need to home school them because they truly need to live sheltered lives.

However, if your allergy prevents me from bringing food on a plane, or giving my kid a PB&J sandwich at lunch, or having to throw away anything that slightly resembles the food allergies because your kid is coming over, THAT'S where I draw the line.

Don't purposely inconvenience others because you have a genetic mutant who, by nature, should die off.

A) You just seriously made the argument that you believe in killing children with allergies. Did you think before typing that?

B) Said children actually do have all the same rights you and your own children do, including the right to experience society. They have allergies, they're not farking felons.

chuggernaught:mysticcat: spitting milk at a child's face and causing a swift anaphylactic reaction.......

Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....

It doesn't work like that, people. Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous//board certified allergist

So when my child's allergy doctor tells us not to let him touch it because he could break out in hives, she's just lying to us? Please consider your comments before you post. Allergens on the skin can be dangerous too. If the child is exposed to their allergen, then they wipe their eyes, nose or mouth, the allergen can then enter their system. If you're an allergist, you know this. Unless, once again, you think our allergy doctor is lying to us.

Going to go with our allergy doctor on this one since her degrees on the wall of her office, and your random internet guy making claims.

chuggernaught:mysticcat: spitting milk at a child's face and causing a swift anaphylactic reaction.......

Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....

It doesn't work like that, people. Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous//board certified allergist

So when my child's allergy doctor tells us not to let him touch it because he could break out in hives, she's just lying to us? Please consider your comments before you post. Allergens on the skin can be dangerous too. If the child is exposed to their allergen, then they wipe their eyes, nose or mouth, the allergen can then enter their system. If you're an allergist, you know this. Unless, once again, you think our allergy doctor is lying to us.

Going to go with our allergy doctor on this one since her degrees on the wall of her office, and your random internet guy making claims.

I'm not aware of any cases of anaphylaxis resulting from cutaneous exposure. Hand-to-mouth I'll buy, but hand-to-eye or skin should just result in local swelling if anything. Hives from cutaneous allergen exposure aren't dangerous, just itchy.

PsiChick:Kirzania: Miles Monroe, 8, of Bethesda, Md., who is allergic to milk, eggs and wheat

Fark me, how does this happen??

mysticcat: Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."FTFA: Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child./confused//doesn't have food related allergies like this, obv

Well, for the first, my brother had that. He got over it because he wasn't exposed to any PARTICLES IN THE AIR, MYSTICCAT, WHICH CAN AND DO CAUSE ALLERGIC REACTIONS FOR FOOD ALLERGIES AND RESULTED IN MY BROTHER NOT BEING ALLOWED TO BE IN THE SAME HOUSE AS FRIED EGGS SO HIS THROAT DIDN'T SWELL UP.

/Slightly touchy about people who are like 'allergies, pfft, that's nothing!'//But yeah, particles? Can, and do, cause allergic reactions EVEN WITH FOOD.///And yes, those three exist in that combination. Hopefully the kids grow out of it.

Aerosolized food reactions result in reactions similar to inhalant allergens. There is not enough systemic absorption to cause anaphylaxis, nor should they cause throat swelling.

mysticcat:PsiChick: Kirzania: Miles Monroe, 8, of Bethesda, Md., who is allergic to milk, eggs and wheat

Fark me, how does this happen??

mysticcat: Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."FTFA: Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child./confused//doesn't have food related allergies like this, obv

Well, for the first, my brother had that. He got over it because he wasn't exposed to any PARTICLES IN THE AIR, MYSTICCAT, WHICH CAN AND DO CAUSE ALLERGIC REACTIONS FOR FOOD ALLERGIES AND RESULTED IN MY BROTHER NOT BEING ALLOWED TO BE IN THE SAME HOUSE AS FRIED EGGS SO HIS THROAT DIDN'T SWELL UP.

/Slightly touchy about people who are like 'allergies, pfft, that's nothing!'//But yeah, particles? Can, and do, cause allergic reactions EVEN WITH FOOD.///And yes, those three exist in that combination. Hopefully the kids grow out of it.

Aerosolized food reactions result in reactions similar to inhalant allergens. There is not enough systemic absorption to cause anaphylaxis, nor should they cause throat swelling.

PsiChick:mysticcat: PsiChick: Kirzania: Miles Monroe, 8, of Bethesda, Md., who is allergic to milk, eggs and wheat

Fark me, how does this happen??

mysticcat: Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."FTFA: Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child./confused//doesn't have food related allergies like this, obv

Well, for the first, my brother had that. He got over it because he wasn't exposed to any PARTICLES IN THE AIR, MYSTICCAT, WHICH CAN AND DO CAUSE ALLERGIC REACTIONS FOR FOOD ALLERGIES AND RESULTED IN MY BROTHER NOT BEING ALLOWED TO BE IN THE SAME HOUSE AS FRIED EGGS SO HIS THROAT DIDN'T SWELL UP.

/Slightly touchy about people who are like 'allergies, pfft, that's nothing!'//But yeah, particles? Can, and do, cause allergic reactions EVEN WITH FOOD.///And yes, those three exist in that combination. Hopefully the kids grow out of it.

Aerosolized food reactions result in reactions similar to inhalant allergens. There is not enough systemic absorption to cause anaphylaxis, nor should they cause throat swelling.

Occam's Disposable Razor:Your bio describes you as a psychic, so I'm inclined to side with the doctor on this one. And every single other disagreement the two of you might have in perpetuity forever and ever.

Because naturally a Pagan religious belief means I'm inherently a liar about my brother's allergies, which were life-threatening at the time.

B) Said children actually do have all the same rights you and your own children do, including the right to experience society. They have allergies, they're not farking felons.

Children do not actually have any [legal] rights. Even for adults there is no actual "right to experience society".

And the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few... or the one. There is absolutely no reason to force restrictions on an entire classroom or lunchroom because Alice Allergy is genetically inferior challenged.

I sincerely hope those of you describing children with food allergies in such negative terms never have to experience the worry my wife and I feel when we send our child to school. She's very young and we're teaching her about her peanut allergy, but right now she is at the mercy of the staff at her school. Thankfully they are very professional about it and understand the risks she faces everyday.It frightens me to think there might be people like a few of you in education.

Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....

It doesn't work like that, people. Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous//board certified allergist

So when my child's allergy doctor tells us not to let him touch it because he could break out in hives, she's just lying to us? Please consider your comments before you post. Allergens on the skin can be dangerous too. If the child is exposed to their allergen, then they wipe their eyes, nose or mouth, the allergen can then enter their system. If you're an allergist, you know this. Unless, once again, you think our allergy doctor is lying to us.

Going to go with our allergy doctor on this one since her degrees on the wall of her office, and your random internet guy making claims.

Just last week, one child's face was touched with peanut butter, endangering the child. .....

It doesn't work like that, people. Now, repeat after me, "All serious food allergy reactions result from ingestion."

Stop feeding the hysteria.

/not trying to belittle real peanut allergy which is scary and can be very dangerous//board certified allergist

So when my child's allergy doctor tells us not to let him touch it because he could break out in hives, she's just lying to us? Please consider your comments before you post. Allergens on the skin can be dangerous too. If the child is exposed to their allergen, then they wipe their eyes, nose or mouth, the allergen can then enter their system. If you're an allergist, you know this. Unless, once again, you think our allergy doctor is lying to us.

Going to go with our ...

Doesn't have to be anaphylaxis, the fact that it causes the victim discomfort and poses a threat, especially to the very young or weak, is enough to grind my gears. If I was 100% immune to the effects of poison ivy, could even eat it raw, and randomly rubbed it on people whom I knew were going to be injured, the authorities would put me away.

I loved the way PsiChick seamlessly transitioned from "I listen to science and doctors, not opinions" to "My brother said it happened so I don't care that you're a doctor and all the science stuff you say"

In which case I honestly have to wonder - perhaps it's actually COUNTERPRODUCTIVE to do the sort of "tell everyone in the class about little Jayden's peanut allergy so that everyone can be careful" type messages?

Seems it would be better to tell the teacher (so she can keep an eye out for both accidental ingestion and any bullying issues) and definitely propagandize the HELL out of little Jayden himself ("don't you ever eat anything at all whatever ever ever ever unless you know exactly where it's from, and that means from Mom only until you're older") - but NOT tell any classmates.

Most people would not think to tease anyone with peanut butter or milk or anything else if they don't already know in advance the kid has allergies. If offered some peanut food, the kid can just say he doesn't like the stuff or just doesn't want any, no thanks.

I don't have any food allergies, but I do have a simple phobia (phobia of an object) of something so ordinary that it's all around, common, but no one in a million years would ever suspect someone would have a phobia of it. Think "cotton balls" - only it's something else similarly innocuous. Yeah, it's stupid, because these things aren't rational at all. It's lizard brain territory.

As a small child, unfortunately I learned what happens if you confide this deep secret to someone who you eventually have a falling out with. Not good. Luckily for me we randomly moved for completely unrelated reasons, and you better believe I have never shared that secret with anyone else again.

Thing is, most people would never think to force someone to eat at item (or touch an item, in the phobia case) unless they already know it's a problem for the victim. It just doesn't cross anyone's mind.

Perhaps peanut allergies are so common now that kids might try it randomly just to see if they can get a rise out of some random kid, but it seems to me that the kid would be safer from any bullying if he keeps his allergies a secret.