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It won't take too much time until the special labels are almost completely done with Goldsmith or at least with the popular titles that are still left to be expanded. This is excluding the Varese titles which will just be gradually expanded, but at least they will. Now my question is what you want to be expanded next by Varese! What three titles are you unpatiently waiting for?

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They all are (by the token that they all are written for shockingly mundane movies). US Marshals still is the first one that introduced a clear departure from the stuff that came before it. He changed gears for this one. It's not another 'Total Recall' clone.

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...and has its virtues more in the other, more romantic material than in the drab thumping action parts. The main theme is a Goldsmith variation of Silvestri's theme for 'Forrest Gump'. Old pro could work around the temp without aping it.

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Some of these releases. I wonder if they just do two CD releases because the fans demand them. Mattesino, Gerhardt, Bulk, Doug Fakes etc, they seem like smart guys. They probably know Executive Decision isnt good enough for a full 2 CD release.

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If they did merely an expansion, they'd leave off someone's favourite cue. Far easier to just do it properly, and let fans decide what to remove, if anything.

I agree with Nicholas Meyer on this. Fans generally don't know what they want.

These guys are the professionals. They should know how to cut an album. And they should be able to make the call to leave off certain things rather then actually forcing a paying customer to sit down and do the work they should have done.

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But it's the same space on the shelf, so...(it's an archival release, anyway or what would anal listmongers like Jason do with their fandom?)

'Small Soldiers' and 'The Haunting' are, at least as far as Goldsmith goes, the more interesting and varied scores - i mean, i love Goldsmith and open fifth horn fanfares but a bit of variety wouldn't do any harm.

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But we're not talking about a composer forming their album. We're talking about the labels restoring the score, occasionally with the composer helping. And as I understand, they're doing that with the understanding that the point of the re-release is to present all the music. Even JW seems to have realised this for the JP box.

3 minutes ago, Stefancos said:

But what if including a cue actually makes the album a little bit less good.

Do what Intrada does and include 'disruptive' cues as extras at the end of the main program.

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The JP expansion is actually a perfect example of what Stefan is talking about, musically. There are now at least 10 minutes of meandering stuff that no one ever needed on disc but leaving them off...can you imagine the slaughter?

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The JP expansion is actually a perfect example of what Stefan is talking about, musically. There are now at least 10 minutes of meandering stuff that no one ever needed on disc but leaving them off...can you imagine the slaughter?

Yet TLW really benefits from the added material. Through in truth they could have probably lost about 10 minutes. But a little bit of bloat scattered throughout the album is fine. It's the long stretches of musical nothing that turn me off with some of these long releases.

It's not a legit release, but there's a solid half hour in the middle of the complete KOCS that just sits there.

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I think it has been established that since most of us put this stuff on iTunes & Co. and rarely if ever listen to the cd again it doesn't matter. My Deluxe Edition cd's are in perfect shape. Once converted to mp3, they are never touched again.

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If a score contains too much dead weight I usually write it off anyway.

If a complete Goldsmith release contains 85 minutes of music. 10 minutes of which is filler I'm happy to just leave it, because that's quite harmless. If it contains more I tend to just not bother with it and return to the OST.

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It's the pits. Without even the trashy charms of 'Rent-a-Cop'. 'Mr. Baseball' is goofy stuff but it's a cheesy listenable score with some cute tunes. There is a dumb hate for scores like this, 'Fierce Creatures' and 'I. Q.' even if those scores are much more inventive than, say, 'Insurrection' or 'Executive Decision'.