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View Poll Results: Should those with self-inflicted ailments be charged more for health care?

Voters

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Yes, their life choices cost everyone more money

420.00%

Yes, and higher costs should be expanded to cronic healthcare users (ex:hypochondriac)

315.00%

No, everyone should pay the same no matter how much health care you use

Re: Charge more for healthcare of self-inflicted ailments?

I have the right to eat what I want. I shouldn't be punished for excercising my rights.

Education = control now? Those stupid liberals trying to educate people by telling the truth about harmful ingredients. Who do they think they are?

No, but punitive laws and taxes = control. It's obvious that the American people aren't going to accept the Libbo agenda, willingly. So, the Libbos have no choice, now, but to force their agenda on the country. That's what they're in the process of doing.

Originally Posted by americanwoman

So there is absolutely no evidence this woman, whom you called a slut, did this but you are ready to take someone's word as evidence. Guess you don't think witch hunts have to end when it's going after the certain people.

Re: Charge more for healthcare of self-inflicted ailments?

Originally Posted by jallman

But will you refuse to wear clothes and force us to try and look away from your big blue alien penis?

You would think an omnipotent being could afford a nice suit.

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Re: Charge more for healthcare of self-inflicted ailments?

I have the right to eat what I want. I shouldn't be punished for excercising my rights.

You're not punished for eating what you want. You are forced to take responsibility for choices by paying health care costs involved with your choice of a unhealthy lifestyle.

The same logic goes towards welfare. If you choose not to work, the people of this country should NOT have to pay for your choice.

Originally Posted by apdst

No, but punitive laws and taxes = control. It's obvious that the American people aren't going to accept the Libbo agenda, willingly. So, the Libbos have no choice, now, but to force their agenda on the country. That's what they're in the process of doing.

Take it to the conspiracy forum.

Last edited by Gibberish; 10-06-09 at 05:51 PM.

"Gold gets dug out of the ground in Africa, or someplace. Then we melt it down, dig another hole, bury it again and pay people to stand around guarding it. It has no utility. Anyone watching from Mars would be scratching their head."
- Warren Buffett

Re: Charge more for healthcare of self-inflicted ailments?

Originally Posted by Gibberish

I could see many liberals voting to have smokers, drug users, and drinkers pay more for illnesses caused by their choices. Have you been to California lately? We are one step away from making smokers serving prison time for lighting up within a 100 year radius of any public property.

Re: Charge more for healthcare of self-inflicted ailments?

What is stupid about charging people based on their choice of heightened liability? If I get a lot of speeding tickets my car insurance goes up. If I drive safe it stay low. It's not rocket science.

Oh and by the way, I tend to play devil's advocate so keep your partisan attacks to yourself.

How do you suggest we police this? Are we gonna spend tax dollars to have food police to police the junk that folks put into their own bodies? How about text police? See someone texting and walking at same time? Lets charge em more cause they could fall down and hurt themselves while texting.

Where does the madness stop? Be very careful what ya wish for in reguards to wanting more gov. in our lives cause trust me the results will come back to bite you on your ass at some point.

Re: Charge more for healthcare of self-inflicted ailments?

California's economy is very dependent on exports. If there are no buyers of goods then the economy will lower. When people start buying again California will be one of the first states to recover.

"Gold gets dug out of the ground in Africa, or someplace. Then we melt it down, dig another hole, bury it again and pay people to stand around guarding it. It has no utility. Anyone watching from Mars would be scratching their head."
- Warren Buffett

Re: Charge more for healthcare of self-inflicted ailments?

Originally Posted by Kali

How do you suggest we police this? Are we gonna spend tax dollars to have food police to police the junk that folks put into their own bodies? How about text police? See someone texting and walking at same time? Lets charge em more cause they could fall down and hurt themselves while texting.

Where does the madness stop? Be very careful what ya wish for in reguards to wanting more gov. in our lives cause trust me the results will come back to bite you on your ass at some point.

This has nothing to do with government. This same idea could exist with private health care as well.

You don't need to police anything. Diagnosis makes the cause obvious.

"Gold gets dug out of the ground in Africa, or someplace. Then we melt it down, dig another hole, bury it again and pay people to stand around guarding it. It has no utility. Anyone watching from Mars would be scratching their head."
- Warren Buffett

Re: Charge more for healthcare of self-inflicted ailments?

Originally Posted by Kali

Disagree. You can be overweight and eat healthy, can get cancer and be a nonsmoker, etc.

Yes a person can eat healthy and still be overweight by eating more calories than they burn in a day. But, I'm not talking "overweight". I am talking Obese. How many Obese people become Obese with a healthy diet?

Keep in mind I am excluding genetic disorders.

Last edited by Gibberish; 10-08-09 at 11:21 PM.

"Gold gets dug out of the ground in Africa, or someplace. Then we melt it down, dig another hole, bury it again and pay people to stand around guarding it. It has no utility. Anyone watching from Mars would be scratching their head."
- Warren Buffett