because there is an actual firm proposal now ( a written deal), not a soundbite. And because leave.eu was caught overspending, and because there is ample evidence of social media manipulation by Russia during the campaign.
Plus hey... peoples minds change. The polls show that.
We have a vote on the Eu in the 1970s, why did you want another one?

Of course we won't forget. How are we supposed to trust them to keep to their word? It's not that I don't like what they're saying, it's because past evidence gives me no reason to believe they'll actually support a second referendum should they have any power.

you realize they didnt fucking win that election right?
I dont see people refusing for a lifetime to vote labour because of all that ;ethical foreign policy' horseshit that they banged on about before starting a middle east war and devastating fallujah with depleted uranium and cluster bombs.

That's a market of roughly 360,000 cars per year in this segment. The market is a bit bigger if you consider that people who buy cars that are slightly smaller, like an Audi A3, or slightly bigger, like a BMW 5-series, might consider a Tesla Model 3. There is a lot of territory to conquer here.

The base price of a German car in this segment is around 40k, but realistically, nobody buys these without a few options that bump the price up a few thousand. Lower down, the Acura starts around 33k, the Infiniti at 35, and the Lexus at 38. Again, I think most people are not buying the base model. I do not believe that the 35k Model 3 is actually all that necessary. The Model 3 MR at 44k (which includes the upgraded interior and sound system) is already fairly price competitive with German offerings.

Agreed. You only need to really car about eh 35k model once you have already driven BMW and lexus and Audi out of business, and even then, people pay more for an EV than a normal car (the 'tesla stretch') so even that is an underestimate.

earnings will bounce it. Its AMAZING how little attention many investors pay to the day to day news or details of a stock. When people hear that Q3 was NOT a one-off and yup...telsa is profitable AGAInN, and also OMG how many electric cars are they producing now? people will re-invest, especially when they hear about the cargo ships packed with thousands of model 3s heading to Europe (likely all high price variants).

If that’s true that’s a pretty sad indictment of voters. Look at the absolute state of the cabinet.

Amber Rudd is back after resigning just a few months earlier, for either lying to parliament or being so misinformed about a crucial issue she gave factually wrong information to parliament in an attempt to hide what the government was doing around windrush.

Liam Fox is back after resigning in disgrace years ago over giving his lobbyist “friend” inappropriate access to the MoD and took him on trips, funded by sketchy means which he tried to hide. He also was caught in the expenses scandal. Yet here he is, back in cabinet.

The defence secretary Gavin Williamson responds to Russia murdering people in plain sight with chemical weapons in the UK by telling them “to shut up and go away”. He’s so flim-flammy that Richard Madeley on ITVs Good Morning Britain cut his live interview off because he couldn’t even answer a straight question about it. Richard Madeley was too hard hitting for the defence secretary, I mean ffs.

Theresa May won’t even debate Corbyn on any issue in person, she literally sent Amber Rudd as a stand-in during a fucking election that she called! Then when the brexit debate was floated she blatantly hid behind “we can’t agree on the format/channel hahaha strictly is on the other channel”.

She called a snap election to try and sure herself up and lost seats. She triggered article 50 without a plan. She has a third of her party vote against her leadership in a party confidence vote. Her government was the first in history to be held in contempt of parliament. She lost the vote on her deal which was the single biggest loss in modern times, weeks after taking the unprecedented step of unilaterally withdrawing the bill to recent parliament debating it. She’s basically failed to do anything meaningful whatsoever over the past few years, because everyone is tied up responding to the fires she keeps starting.

It‘s pathetic.

These people are the actual government with actual power, making terrible decisions and blatantly putting their party before their country day after day, while being propped up by a bunch of religious lunatics in the DUP. It’s a fucking disaster and it’s clear to the world that the UK has a problem with its government.

Yet this group of voters who see this don’t care at all, they see labour and start clutching their pearls about hypotheticals that they can’t even verbalise.

Suddenly the cabinet are “just doing their best” despite it being an absolutely wilful car-crash, and the real source of the country’s problems and target of derision should apparently be Diann Abbot.

When she spoke she really slurred her words, and kept falling back on scripted answers that were unrelated to the question. I really dislike her. But she looked confused, I’m no doctor but I remember thinking as she’s diabetic is her current blood sugar fucked up? She seemed out of it.

Yeah let’s start by taxing private jets, luxury yachts and high end petrol guzzling vehicles. Then we can start on the middle class and work our way down to the poorest. Something needs to be done but not at the expense of the poorest.

Just straight up ending capitalism and instituting a ruthlessly planned economy with extreme levels of redistribution all focused on maximising environmentally friendliness might be enough to do it.

But we won't do that because blah blah blah human nature, capitalism is actually good, did you know about Venezuela. And so on. We'll make the same excuses as our nations slide into fascism and our dying world burns to a crisp all around us.

It seems like a lot of people replying to you don't realize the negotiation process that does into layoffs in europe, and how employees get representation at the table with the company. Or how that representation works with the company to find any other ways to cut costs in order to save as many jobs as possible. So that the company and employees are disrupted the least.

They also don't seem to realize that all of this is enabled by having a publicly funded social safety net, and mutual respect for employee and employer. But hey. F that soft european BS, right? Nothing anybody could learn from that.

Thats also why companies are slower to hire in Europe though. The rapid scaling up of US startups, knowing they can fire and then hire the right people later-on, is what enables rapid US startup growth. Its not as simple as US bad, EU good.
I run a (small) Eu biz.
Totally agree on free healthcare though. Thats a huge enabler for entrepreneurs.

apple pay their staff slavery wages when you look at the actual factories in china. They are a disgraceful company. The tiny tiny percentage of people involved in apple who are directly employed in US stores are the tip of the iceberg. Also apple are masters at tax evasion. The end product might be provided with good service(at stupidly inflated profit margins obviously), but that doesn't mean the company isn't screwing 95% of the people they work with. Tesla are ten times nicer than apple ever have been.