Jackfrags plays Battlefront 2 for first time since Nov 2017

Hey all. Thought this was worth a post on the forums. Some really good press for Battlefront 2.

For those of you who don't know, Jackfrags is a very well known YouTuber. He creates gameplay videos for a variety of shooters, but seems to be most well known for his Battlefield videos. He apparently tuned into Battlefront Updates playing Capital Supremacy and liked what he saw. So for the first time since November 2017, he played Battlefront 2 and uploaded the video of it.

He drew Geonosis on Capital Supremacy. Looks like he had a great time, and said he might do a Kashyyyk video.

No as long as ALL the BUGS and other incorrectly working stuff gets FIXED after SOOOO LONG👍👍

I don't think that's going to matter to most people. Battlefront has always been a more casual shooter, even the original games. Those old games had a variety of exploits, etc. But they still provided a fun Star Wars experience which is what most are after. There are other shooters that people have competitive expectations for.

Big YouTubers playing a game doesn't necessarily mean that game is gonna get a better population.

For example, back around December, a youtuber called isorrowproductions started a series of videos for a game called Victoria 2 which only had an active player base around 1000 players, his videos all got a view count of 300,000-500,000 views. One even made it to the youtube trending page. Despite all that Victoria 2's population didn't change in the slightest, no new surge of new players.

I'll use another example that involves Jackfrags, he has made videos about BF4 and PUBG too yet there hasn't been any new surge in new players there, not any that I've heard of nor am I hearing anything about BF4 or PUBG having big surges back into popularity.

Big YouTubers playing a game doesn't necessarily mean that game is gonna get a better population.

For example, back around December, a youtuber called isorrowproductions started a series of videos for a game called Victoria 2 which only had an active player base around 1000 players, his videos all got a view count of 300,000-500,000 views. One even made it to the youtube trending page. Despite all that Victoria 2's population didn't change in the slightest, no new surge of new players.

I'll use another example that involves Jackfrags, he has made videos about BF4 and PUBG too yet there hasn't been any new surge in new players there, not any that I've heard of nor am I hearing anything about BF4 or PUBG having big surges back into popularity.

LOL!! Ironically, BF4 has a healthy online community despite no content support since 2015. I still regularly play on PS4. Many consider it the best Battlefield on current consoles. PUBG is still one of the most watched games on Twitch with a thriving community.

Like it or not, something tipped him off to even watch Battlefront Updates and get interested in the game. It's more of the positive trend in recent months. Jackfrags is very well known among Battlefield players. If he keeps making videos of Battlefront 2 as he said he might, then he will absolutely bring people to this game. Battlefront 2 is not dead, it's still recent, still getting active support, and seeing a YouTuber with influence like Jackfrags enjoying the game is often all it takes for someone to give it a shot.

Big YouTubers playing a game doesn't necessarily mean that game is gonna get a better population.

For example, back around December, a youtuber called isorrowproductions started a series of videos for a game called Victoria 2 which only had an active player base around 1000 players, his videos all got a view count of 300,000-500,000 views. One even made it to the youtube trending page. Despite all that Victoria 2's population didn't change in the slightest, no new surge of new players.

I'll use another example that involves Jackfrags, he has made videos about BF4 and PUBG too yet there hasn't been any new surge in new players there, not any that I've heard of nor am I hearing anything about BF4 or PUBG having big surges back into popularity.

LOL!! Ironically, BF4 has a healthy online community despite no content support since 2015. I still regularly play on PS4. Many consider it the best Battlefield on current consoles. PUBG is still one of the most watched games on Twitch with a thriving community.

Like it or not, something tipped him off to even watch Battlefront Updates and get interested in the game. It's more of the positive trend in recent months. Jackfrags is very well known among Battlefield players. If he keeps making videos of Battlefront 2 as he said he might, then he will absolutely bring people to this game. Battlefront 2 is not dead, it's still recent, still getting active support, and seeing a YouTuber with influence like Jackfrags enjoying the game is often all it takes for someone to give it a shot.

I don't see how a video about a game people have been very well aware of would change anything, seeing a video of a game doesn't make me want to play a game.

Big YouTubers playing a game doesn't necessarily mean that game is gonna get a better population.

For example, back around December, a youtuber called isorrowproductions started a series of videos for a game called Victoria 2 which only had an active player base around 1000 players, his videos all got a view count of 300,000-500,000 views. One even made it to the youtube trending page. Despite all that Victoria 2's population didn't change in the slightest, no new surge of new players.

I'll use another example that involves Jackfrags, he has made videos about BF4 and PUBG too yet there hasn't been any new surge in new players there, not any that I've heard of nor am I hearing anything about BF4 or PUBG having big surges back into popularity.

LOL!! Ironically, BF4 has a healthy online community despite no content support since 2015. I still regularly play on PS4. Many consider it the best Battlefield on current consoles. PUBG is still one of the most watched games on Twitch with a thriving community.

Like it or not, something tipped him off to even watch Battlefront Updates and get interested in the game. It's more of the positive trend in recent months. Jackfrags is very well known among Battlefield players. If he keeps making videos of Battlefront 2 as he said he might, then he will absolutely bring people to this game. Battlefront 2 is not dead, it's still recent, still getting active support, and seeing a YouTuber with influence like Jackfrags enjoying the game is often all it takes for someone to give it a shot.

I don't see how a video about a game people have been very well aware of would change anything, seeing a video of a game doesn't make me want to play a game.

So you've never watched gameplay of a game you were interested in? There's a lot of people who are interested in a good Star Wars Battlefront game. People who passed on this game due to the loot box controversy. They may see Jackfrags having fun playing it and decide to give it a shot, especially since it's usually heavily discounted.

Big YouTubers playing a game doesn't necessarily mean that game is gonna get a better population.

For example, back around December, a youtuber called isorrowproductions started a series of videos for a game called Victoria 2 which only had an active player base around 1000 players, his videos all got a view count of 300,000-500,000 views. One even made it to the youtube trending page. Despite all that Victoria 2's population didn't change in the slightest, no new surge of new players.

I'll use another example that involves Jackfrags, he has made videos about BF4 and PUBG too yet there hasn't been any new surge in new players there, not any that I've heard of nor am I hearing anything about BF4 or PUBG having big surges back into popularity.

LOL!! Ironically, BF4 has a healthy online community despite no content support since 2015. I still regularly play on PS4. Many consider it the best Battlefield on current consoles. PUBG is still one of the most watched games on Twitch with a thriving community.

Like it or not, something tipped him off to even watch Battlefront Updates and get interested in the game. It's more of the positive trend in recent months. Jackfrags is very well known among Battlefield players. If he keeps making videos of Battlefront 2 as he said he might, then he will absolutely bring people to this game. Battlefront 2 is not dead, it's still recent, still getting active support, and seeing a YouTuber with influence like Jackfrags enjoying the game is often all it takes for someone to give it a shot.

I don't see how a video about a game people have been very well aware of would change anything, seeing a video of a game doesn't make me want to play a game.

So you've never watched gameplay of a game you were interested in? There's a lot of people who are interested in a good Star Wars Battlefront game. People who passed on this game due to the loot box controversy. They may see Jackfrags having fun playing it and decide to give it a shot, especially since it's usually heavily discounted.

Wow. When I posted this I figured it would be something positive or at least seen by most as such. So much for that LOL!!

It was nice to see a positive post this morning before the usual bug comments reared their heads. I for one am happy with the game and that's why I play it, I don't know why the majority of people on here continue to play.

Wow. When I posted this I figured it would be something positive or at least seen by most as such. So much for that LOL!!

It was nice to see a positive post this morning before the usual bug comments reared their heads. I for one am happy with the game and that's why I play it, I don't know why the majority of people on here continue to play.

Thanks. I think people log on here to complain.

Someone posts this video on Reddit, and it's the exact opposite reaction. A lot more comments, mostly positive. People talking about coming back or trying the game. And people in these forums wonder why Reddit seems to get more attention. LOL!!

Wow. When I posted this I figured it would be something positive or at least seen by most as such. So much for that LOL!!

It was nice to see a positive post this morning before the usual bug comments reared their heads. I for one am happy with the game and that's why I play it, I don't know why the majority of people on here continue to play.

Thanks. I think people log on here to complain.

Someone posts this video on Reddit, and it's the exact opposite reaction. A lot more comments, mostly positive. People talking about coming back or trying the game. And people in these forums wonder why Reddit seems to get more attention. LOL!!

Yeah, like one random wrote that he was coming back and giving it a try. The devs post there because it's an easy way of staying in their bubble and avoiding criticism

Wow. When I posted this I figured it would be something positive or at least seen by most as such. So much for that LOL!!

It was nice to see a positive post this morning before the usual bug comments reared their heads. I for one am happy with the game and that's why I play it, I don't know why the majority of people on here continue to play.

Thanks. I think people log on here to complain.

Someone posts this video on Reddit, and it's the exact opposite reaction. A lot more comments, mostly positive. People talking about coming back or trying the game. And people in these forums wonder why Reddit seems to get more attention. LOL!!

Yeah, like one random wrote that he was coming back and giving it a try. The devs post there because it's an easy way of staying in their bubble and avoiding criticism

You guys can't even post in a thread like this without stirring something up. Why would they ever rush over here for advice? LOL!! Thread after thread gets broken down into the usual petty nonsense. That's not criticism.

Wow. When I posted this I figured it would be something positive or at least seen by most as such. So much for that LOL!!

It was nice to see a positive post this morning before the usual bug comments reared their heads. I for one am happy with the game and that's why I play it, I don't know why the majority of people on here continue to play.

Thanks. I think people log on here to complain.

Someone posts this video on Reddit, and it's the exact opposite reaction. A lot more comments, mostly positive. People talking about coming back or trying the game. And people in these forums wonder why Reddit seems to get more attention. LOL!!

Yeah, like one random wrote that he was coming back and giving it a try. The devs post there because it's an easy way of staying in their bubble and avoiding criticism

You guys can't even post in a thread like this without stirring something up. Why would they ever rush over here for advice? LOL!! Thread after thread gets broken down into the usual petty nonsense. That's not criticism.

We've given pages upon pages of constructive criticism, and they've ignored all of it. It's not my fault you've got the shaders on

Big YouTubers playing a game doesn't necessarily mean that game is gonna get a better population.

For example, back around December, a youtuber called isorrowproductions started a series of videos for a game called Victoria 2 which only had an active player base around 1000 players, his videos all got a view count of 300,000-500,000 views. One even made it to the youtube trending page. Despite all that Victoria 2's population didn't change in the slightest, no new surge of new players.

I'll use another example that involves Jackfrags, he has made videos about BF4 and PUBG too yet there hasn't been any new surge in new players there, not any that I've heard of nor am I hearing anything about BF4 or PUBG having big surges back into popularity.

LOL!! Ironically, BF4 has a healthy online community despite no content support since 2015. I still regularly play on PS4. Many consider it the best Battlefield on current consoles. PUBG is still one of the most watched games on Twitch with a thriving community.

Like it or not, something tipped him off to even watch Battlefront Updates and get interested in the game. It's more of the positive trend in recent months. Jackfrags is very well known among Battlefield players. If he keeps making videos of Battlefront 2 as he said he might, then he will absolutely bring people to this game. Battlefront 2 is not dead, it's still recent, still getting active support, and seeing a YouTuber with influence like Jackfrags enjoying the game is often all it takes for someone to give it a shot.

I don't see how a video about a game people have been very well aware of would change anything, seeing a video of a game doesn't make me want to play a game.

So you've never watched gameplay of a game you were interested in? There's a lot of people who are interested in a good Star Wars Battlefront game. People who passed on this game due to the loot box controversy. They may see Jackfrags having fun playing it and decide to give it a shot, especially since it's usually heavily discounted.

DICE has been aware and have been working with JackFrags for a very long time now, since BF3 at least.

Exactly. They work with him because of his influence in the community. That same influence can work for this game too.

No, I don't know anyone else who base buying a game on what a youtuber thinks. Myself and anyone I know base whether we get a game on it's beta/demos, trailers, or recommendations from real life people, most people make up their own minds on this sort of thing.

If them changing the progression system a year ago didn't bring in people who didn't buy specifically because of the progression system why would a video now bring them in?

Jackfrags is known for his Battlefield content, not game recommendations. Most of the people who watched this specific video probably already have their minds made up about this game and him just making a video of him playing it most likely won't change their minds.

Big YouTubers playing a game doesn't necessarily mean that game is gonna get a better population.

For example, back around December, a youtuber called isorrowproductions started a series of videos for a game called Victoria 2 which only had an active player base around 1000 players, his videos all got a view count of 300,000-500,000 views. One even made it to the youtube trending page. Despite all that Victoria 2's population didn't change in the slightest, no new surge of new players.

I'll use another example that involves Jackfrags, he has made videos about BF4 and PUBG too yet there hasn't been any new surge in new players there, not any that I've heard of nor am I hearing anything about BF4 or PUBG having big surges back into popularity.

LOL!! Ironically, BF4 has a healthy online community despite no content support since 2015. I still regularly play on PS4. Many consider it the best Battlefield on current consoles. PUBG is still one of the most watched games on Twitch with a thriving community.

Like it or not, something tipped him off to even watch Battlefront Updates and get interested in the game. It's more of the positive trend in recent months. Jackfrags is very well known among Battlefield players. If he keeps making videos of Battlefront 2 as he said he might, then he will absolutely bring people to this game. Battlefront 2 is not dead, it's still recent, still getting active support, and seeing a YouTuber with influence like Jackfrags enjoying the game is often all it takes for someone to give it a shot.

I don't see how a video about a game people have been very well aware of would change anything, seeing a video of a game doesn't make me want to play a game.

So you've never watched gameplay of a game you were interested in? There's a lot of people who are interested in a good Star Wars Battlefront game. People who passed on this game due to the loot box controversy. They may see Jackfrags having fun playing it and decide to give it a shot, especially since it's usually heavily discounted.

DICE has been aware and have been working with JackFrags for a very long time now, since BF3 at least.

Exactly. They work with him because of his influence in the community. That same influence can work for this game too.

No, I don't know anyone else who base buying a game on what a youtuber thinks. Myself and anyone I know base whether we get a game on it's beta/demos, trailers, or recommendations from real life people, most people make up their own minds on this sort of thing.

If them changing the progression system a year ago didn't bring in people who didn't buy specifically because of the progression system why would a video now bring them in?

Jackfrags is known for his Battlefield content, not game recommendations. Most of the people who watched this specific video probably already have their minds made up about this game and him just making a video of him playing it most likely won't change their minds.

I think all the toxicity on the forums is ultimately why the developers spend more time on Reddit than on here

and the game will continue to suffer.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You guys make stuff up when you don't have anything legit to rag on. And here you've totally sidetracked this thread with it.

Yes Jackfrags absolutely influences the people viewing his videos, as does Shroud and others streaming games on Twitch. This is a fact of today's gaming and internet culture. That's why these guys get invited everywhere and get sponsored to play these games. There are a lot of people who do tune in to see what the gameplay is like before buying.

After a year and a half, this game is back to player numbers on the level of the launch month. That's not suffering.

Big YouTubers playing a game doesn't necessarily mean that game is gonna get a better population.

For example, back around December, a youtuber called isorrowproductions started a series of videos for a game called Victoria 2 which only had an active player base around 1000 players, his videos all got a view count of 300,000-500,000 views. One even made it to the youtube trending page. Despite all that Victoria 2's population didn't change in the slightest, no new surge of new players.

I'll use another example that involves Jackfrags, he has made videos about BF4 and PUBG too yet there hasn't been any new surge in new players there, not any that I've heard of nor am I hearing anything about BF4 or PUBG having big surges back into popularity.

LOL!! Ironically, BF4 has a healthy online community despite no content support since 2015. I still regularly play on PS4. Many consider it the best Battlefield on current consoles. PUBG is still one of the most watched games on Twitch with a thriving community.

Like it or not, something tipped him off to even watch Battlefront Updates and get interested in the game. It's more of the positive trend in recent months. Jackfrags is very well known among Battlefield players. If he keeps making videos of Battlefront 2 as he said he might, then he will absolutely bring people to this game. Battlefront 2 is not dead, it's still recent, still getting active support, and seeing a YouTuber with influence like Jackfrags enjoying the game is often all it takes for someone to give it a shot.

I don't see how a video about a game people have been very well aware of would change anything, seeing a video of a game doesn't make me want to play a game.

So you've never watched gameplay of a game you were interested in? There's a lot of people who are interested in a good Star Wars Battlefront game. People who passed on this game due to the loot box controversy. They may see Jackfrags having fun playing it and decide to give it a shot, especially since it's usually heavily discounted.

DICE has been aware and have been working with JackFrags for a very long time now, since BF3 at least.

Exactly. They work with him because of his influence in the community. That same influence can work for this game too.

No, I don't know anyone else who base buying a game on what a youtuber thinks. Myself and anyone I know base whether we get a game on it's beta/demos, trailers, or recommendations from real life people, most people make up their own minds on this sort of thing.

If them changing the progression system a year ago didn't bring in people who didn't buy specifically because of the progression system why would a video now bring them in?

Jackfrags is known for his Battlefield content, not game recommendations. Most of the people who watched this specific video probably already have their minds made up about this game and him just making a video of him playing it most likely won't change their minds.

Overall the games going in a positive direction, the Devs actually think through their decisions for the most part and don't entirely go by mob rule. That being said they've definitely been dragging their feet with meaningful content, and more often than not deliver on what nobody remotely asked for.

Big YouTubers playing a game doesn't necessarily mean that game is gonna get a better population.

For example, back around December, a youtuber called isorrowproductions started a series of videos for a game called Victoria 2 which only had an active player base around 1000 players, his videos all got a view count of 300,000-500,000 views. One even made it to the youtube trending page. Despite all that Victoria 2's population didn't change in the slightest, no new surge of new players.

I'll use another example that involves Jackfrags, he has made videos about BF4 and PUBG too yet there hasn't been any new surge in new players there, not any that I've heard of nor am I hearing anything about BF4 or PUBG having big surges back into popularity.

LOL!! Ironically, BF4 has a healthy online community despite no content support since 2015. I still regularly play on PS4. Many consider it the best Battlefield on current consoles. PUBG is still one of the most watched games on Twitch with a thriving community.

Like it or not, something tipped him off to even watch Battlefront Updates and get interested in the game. It's more of the positive trend in recent months. Jackfrags is very well known among Battlefield players. If he keeps making videos of Battlefront 2 as he said he might, then he will absolutely bring people to this game. Battlefront 2 is not dead, it's still recent, still getting active support, and seeing a YouTuber with influence like Jackfrags enjoying the game is often all it takes for someone to give it a shot.

I don't see how a video about a game people have been very well aware of would change anything, seeing a video of a game doesn't make me want to play a game.

So you've never watched gameplay of a game you were interested in? There's a lot of people who are interested in a good Star Wars Battlefront game. People who passed on this game due to the loot box controversy. They may see Jackfrags having fun playing it and decide to give it a shot, especially since it's usually heavily discounted.

DICE has been aware and have been working with JackFrags for a very long time now, since BF3 at least.

Exactly. They work with him because of his influence in the community. That same influence can work for this game too.

No, I don't know anyone else who base buying a game on what a youtuber thinks. Myself and anyone I know base whether we get a game on it's beta/demos, trailers, or recommendations from real life people, most people make up their own minds on this sort of thing.

If them changing the progression system a year ago didn't bring in people who didn't buy specifically because of the progression system why would a video now bring them in?

Jackfrags is known for his Battlefield content, not game recommendations. Most of the people who watched this specific video probably already have their minds made up about this game and him just making a video of him playing it most likely won't change their minds.

I think all the toxicity on the forums is ultimately why the developers spend more time on Reddit than on here

and the game will continue to suffer.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You guys make stuff up when you don't have anything legit to rag on. And here you've totally sidetracked this thread with it.

Yes Jackfrags absolutely influences the people viewing his videos, as does Shroud and others streaming games on Twitch. This is a fact of today's gaming and internet culture. That's why these guys get invited everywhere and get sponsored to play these games. There are a lot of people who do tune in to see what the gameplay is like before buying.

After a year and a half, this game is back to player numbers on the level of the launch month. That's not suffering.

What evidence suggests that this game is back to launch numbers? A comment from known liars who refuse to actually prove this statistic is hardly evidence

[*] After a year and a half, this game is back to player numbers on the level of the launch month. That's not suffering.[/list]

This talking point is so weak. If BF17 is as popular as it was during launch, the launch was significantly worse than anyone realized.

This is the total number of players for Destiny 2 (likely from Saturday):

That's combined across PS4, Xbox, and PC. Plus, the number of players on at a given moment would be significantly lower, since that tracks total players throughout the day. Also: IIRC, you're counted under Pve and PvP if you played both.

According to Microsoft's official tracker, Destiny 2 is significantly ahead of BF17 in the population rankings. If that's the population of a game which is ahead of BF17, how can the game be doing as awesome as you suggest? The number of players Destiny 2 had on Saturday would be disappointing for a Battlefront game launch, and BF17 isn't performing as well as D2 is on Xbox.

Big YouTubers playing a game doesn't necessarily mean that game is gonna get a better population.

For example, back around December, a youtuber called isorrowproductions started a series of videos for a game called Victoria 2 which only had an active player base around 1000 players, his videos all got a view count of 300,000-500,000 views. One even made it to the youtube trending page. Despite all that Victoria 2's population didn't change in the slightest, no new surge of new players.

I'll use another example that involves Jackfrags, he has made videos about BF4 and PUBG too yet there hasn't been any new surge in new players there, not any that I've heard of nor am I hearing anything about BF4 or PUBG having big surges back into popularity.

LOL!! Ironically, BF4 has a healthy online community despite no content support since 2015. I still regularly play on PS4. Many consider it the best Battlefield on current consoles. PUBG is still one of the most watched games on Twitch with a thriving community.

Like it or not, something tipped him off to even watch Battlefront Updates and get interested in the game. It's more of the positive trend in recent months. Jackfrags is very well known among Battlefield players. If he keeps making videos of Battlefront 2 as he said he might, then he will absolutely bring people to this game. Battlefront 2 is not dead, it's still recent, still getting active support, and seeing a YouTuber with influence like Jackfrags enjoying the game is often all it takes for someone to give it a shot.

I don't see how a video about a game people have been very well aware of would change anything, seeing a video of a game doesn't make me want to play a game.

So you've never watched gameplay of a game you were interested in? There's a lot of people who are interested in a good Star Wars Battlefront game. People who passed on this game due to the loot box controversy. They may see Jackfrags having fun playing it and decide to give it a shot, especially since it's usually heavily discounted.

DICE has been aware and have been working with JackFrags for a very long time now, since BF3 at least.

Exactly. They work with him because of his influence in the community. That same influence can work for this game too.

No, I don't know anyone else who base buying a game on what a youtuber thinks. Myself and anyone I know base whether we get a game on it's beta/demos, trailers, or recommendations from real life people, most people make up their own minds on this sort of thing.

If them changing the progression system a year ago didn't bring in people who didn't buy specifically because of the progression system why would a video now bring them in?

Jackfrags is known for his Battlefield content, not game recommendations. Most of the people who watched this specific video probably already have their minds made up about this game and him just making a video of him playing it most likely won't change their minds.

I think all the toxicity on the forums is ultimately why the developers spend more time on Reddit than on here

and the game will continue to suffer.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You guys make stuff up when you don't have anything legit to rag on. And here you've totally sidetracked this thread with it.

Yes Jackfrags absolutely influences the people viewing his videos, as does Shroud and others streaming games on Twitch. This is a fact of today's gaming and internet culture. That's why these guys get invited everywhere and get sponsored to play these games. There are a lot of people who do tune in to see what the gameplay is like before buying.

After a year and a half, this game is back to player numbers on the level of the launch month. That's not suffering.

What evidence suggests that this game is back to launch numbers? A comment from known liars who refuse to actually prove this statistic is hardly evidence

Man, it’s funny how many people just auto believe the devs. First with EOR matchmaking, then Launch numbers, then Yoda Dash strike being a bug. Just ridiculous.

Big YouTubers playing a game doesn't necessarily mean that game is gonna get a better population.

For example, back around December, a youtuber called isorrowproductions started a series of videos for a game called Victoria 2 which only had an active player base around 1000 players, his videos all got a view count of 300,000-500,000 views. One even made it to the youtube trending page. Despite all that Victoria 2's population didn't change in the slightest, no new surge of new players.

I'll use another example that involves Jackfrags, he has made videos about BF4 and PUBG too yet there hasn't been any new surge in new players there, not any that I've heard of nor am I hearing anything about BF4 or PUBG having big surges back into popularity.

LOL!! Ironically, BF4 has a healthy online community despite no content support since 2015. I still regularly play on PS4. Many consider it the best Battlefield on current consoles. PUBG is still one of the most watched games on Twitch with a thriving community.

Like it or not, something tipped him off to even watch Battlefront Updates and get interested in the game. It's more of the positive trend in recent months. Jackfrags is very well known among Battlefield players. If he keeps making videos of Battlefront 2 as he said he might, then he will absolutely bring people to this game. Battlefront 2 is not dead, it's still recent, still getting active support, and seeing a YouTuber with influence like Jackfrags enjoying the game is often all it takes for someone to give it a shot.

I don't see how a video about a game people have been very well aware of would change anything, seeing a video of a game doesn't make me want to play a game.

So you've never watched gameplay of a game you were interested in? There's a lot of people who are interested in a good Star Wars Battlefront game. People who passed on this game due to the loot box controversy. They may see Jackfrags having fun playing it and decide to give it a shot, especially since it's usually heavily discounted.

DICE has been aware and have been working with JackFrags for a very long time now, since BF3 at least.

Exactly. They work with him because of his influence in the community. That same influence can work for this game too.

No, I don't know anyone else who base buying a game on what a youtuber thinks. Myself and anyone I know base whether we get a game on it's beta/demos, trailers, or recommendations from real life people, most people make up their own minds on this sort of thing.

If them changing the progression system a year ago didn't bring in people who didn't buy specifically because of the progression system why would a video now bring them in?

Jackfrags is known for his Battlefield content, not game recommendations. Most of the people who watched this specific video probably already have their minds made up about this game and him just making a video of him playing it most likely won't change their minds.

I think all the toxicity on the forums is ultimately why the developers spend more time on Reddit than on here

and the game will continue to suffer.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You guys make stuff up when you don't have anything legit to rag on. And here you've totally sidetracked this thread with it.

Yes Jackfrags absolutely influences the people viewing his videos, as does Shroud and others streaming games on Twitch. This is a fact of today's gaming and internet culture. That's why these guys get invited everywhere and get sponsored to play these games. There are a lot of people who do tune in to see what the gameplay is like before buying.

After a year and a half, this game is back to player numbers on the level of the launch month. That's not suffering.

What evidence suggests that this game is back to launch numbers? A comment from known liars who refuse to actually prove this statistic is hardly evidence

Man, it’s funny how many people just auto believe the devs. First with EOR matchmaking, then Launch numbers, then Yoda Dash strike being a bug. Just ridiculous.

With how bad the launch was for this game, going back to 2017 numbers doesn't necessarily mean they went up.

Haha it amazing seeing how determinedly negative some people are. Some guy played the game, liked it and broadcast it to loads of new people. Some game devs will actually sponsor youtubers and streamers to play their games because they know how effective that is at bringing in new players. Its how fortnite ended up so popular.

And I love how people claim anyone who is actually positive about the game or actually enjoys playing it is simply either lying or stupid haha.

Imo this isn’t anything to get to excited about. I like Jack Frags well enough be he’s not a star wars guy that I’m aware of. Battlefield 5 must be doing bad lol, that’s how these guys work. For this game to get any traction with youtubers and twitch we need things like a competitive scene and private matches at the very least IMO,

This game is more casual that splatoon 2 at the moment and it’s getting worse not better. I will say this, if JF can encourage better more competitive game modes I’m all for him.