Woke this morning to find out the Roamio rolled its self back to 20.3. But none of the mini's did! So not a single mini in my house works! WTF Tivo? All of them say software up to date. I am getting tired of this crap.

The roll back happened last night on my Premiere. Lost all Favorite channels, DVR capacity was FULL (100%) had to delete all my shows as far back as Christmas time and Clock was wrong (had rerun Guide Set up)

This has huge implications for Tivo. What this says is there systems in place are faulty. Was this someone with a fat finger or is this software code in place that is going rogue. This should NEVER happen. You should all be very worried because this could happen to ANYONE.

I just blocked all network access for my Roamio until this gets figured out.

I'm actually in the process of moving and will be disconnecting all my equipment tomorrow morning and I'll have it disconnected until some time Monday. So I'm not really in the mood for a disaster right now.

This has huge implications for Tivo. What this says is there systems in place are faulty. Was this someone with a fat finger or is this software code in place that is going rogue. This should NEVER happen. You should all be very worried because this could happen to ANYONE.

If only it could have happened to me when we got the 20.3 update :-). The pre-20.3 version worked infinitely better while I still had the old cable card firmware. My TiVo was a mostly useless pile of junk for the months between 20.3 being pushed to it and Comcast finally being willing to update the firmware.

I've never heard of them rolling back a software version before. I didn't even think it was possible. Even when I've participated in betas they always warn that once you get the software the only way for them to roll back is for you to mail your entire TiVo to them so they can wipe the drive and reinstall the old version.

I've never heard of them rolling back a software version before. I didn't even think it was possible. Even when I've participated in betas they always warn that once you get the software the only way for them to roll back is for you to mail your entire TiVo to them so they can wipe the drive and reinstall the old version.

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No they didn't. In the past they have never been able to roll back software. If they could of done it, they wouldn't have asked some customers to send their hardware in to get the new software. Apparently, they are able to do it with the current software.

No they didn't. In the past they have never been able to roll back software. If they could of done it, they wouldn't have asked some customers to send their hardware in to get the new software. Apparently, they are able to do it with the current software.

I think rolling back software has always been possible in certain cases, they just never did it out of policy. There must be something very bad in the 20.4.1 release for TiVo to revert it.

Speaking as a database software developer, as long as the underlying data structures haven't changed in the update, there's no technically reason that rolling back software can't be done.

In layman's terms, think of a software update as changing an object, where changing code is like painting an object while changing the data structures is like carving/whittling the object. If there's just a code change (taking red object and painting it blue), it's fairly simply to simply to revert the change (paint it red again). If there was a database update (object was square and then carved into a circle), it's a lot harder to revert (take all the carved off junks of the glue them back on the circle to make a square again).

Since the 20.4.1 update didn't have one of those "this can take up to an hour or more" screens after the update, it can be assumed that there was no database format update so therefore it was just a code change.

Since the 20.4.1 update didn't have one of those "this can take up to an hour or more" screens after the update, it can be assumed that there was no database format update so therefore it was just a code change.

Both my Plus and Basic had that screen. It didn't start with that one, but it did show up on both during the update.

Since the 20.4.1 update didn't have one of those "this can take up to an hour or more" screens after the update, it can be assumed that there was no database format update so therefore it was just a code change.

That could possibly explain why some people have reported deleted shows undeleting themselves as well as the favorite and select channel lists resetting.

Yeah honestly, starting to think maybe the rollback was not intentional? I figure that it would have to be some pretty serious issues to take the chance to rollback people if it's going to potentially cause issues with recordings.

Would figure they would rather push out a new update to fix the problems before rolling back.

I wasn't having any major issues with 20.4.1 other than the high CPU loads on MRT.

Also wondering if the rollback is targeting specific units? TSNs? Neither of mine have rolled back yet, and I just forced 3 calls to Tivo.

-Kevin

Maybe they halted the rollback due to the reports of problems. Mine hasn't rolled back yet either, but it isn't scheduled to connect to the TiVo server until around 4 p.m. EDT. I haven't yet had any problems with the software update, so I'm a little wary of this rollback since this is apparently the first time TiVo has ever attempted a rollback and it seems like they don't quite have all the kinks worked out of their rollback system.