So this is the time of the year I really start getting all my questions out there.

I've been ordering some trolling fly materials for both coho's and kings and noticed that particularly for kings you keep hearing about the same standard colors (powder blues, white/pearls and greens). Obviously they work well but as I was looking over one website I noticed a rusty gold color with some brownish flecks, much like a goby. That made me wonder, does anyone out there run fly colors out of the norm with good success?

Now I realize that gobies are not a free swimming species, so salmon don't necessarily target them, but I thought that by maybe trolling a smaller gold colored flasher and fly in shallowier during the spring, I may hit a nice brown or two or perhaps a salmon hanging in shallower where golbies are present.

We ran some mixed gold flies in July with not a bump, also our bright gold meat rig also didn't produce at all. But the carmel dolphin spoon ran low produced for us all year long and it's a goby colored spoon.

Most of the time, the ones you read about in posts are the standard colors, because they work. I have a few oddballs that I like under certain circumstances, but they never seem to be the "hot"bait. They will catch one here and one there, though, so I keep running them. It is always good to keep one rod as an experiment.

For example, when the Michigan Stinger Monkey Puke spoon (red and gold) is hot, I have an old red and gold crinkle fly (not even sure who made it) that will usually be good for one or two hits. When purple spoons are bangin', I will swap in the Purple Hypnotist Trophy fly. It works the other way, too. If a white dodger & white fly are working, then I'm digging out the crushed ice, wonderbread or bloody nose spoons. The only time that doesn't work for me is with orange. If orange spoons are working (like on steelhead), I will add more orange spoons, or add blue or black flies, because I have NEVER caught a fish on an orange fly! Good Luck!

JerryRunnin' Bare

_________________Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

i would tie a few and get them wet2 years ago i caught 2 kings one day full of goby just after ice out on crawdad patern deep divers and the big fat browns love gobys togold count downs also produce browns in the spring

gobies come in lots of colors, black, brown, olive, tan to basicly white. I saw a realy lif like gobie fly designed to run behind a dodger or flasher at cabelas fr a while. I have thought about running a tube jig behind a dodger for a gobie imitation.

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