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Zeek

zeek, everyone is going to die sometime. not all die believers, alot die unbelievers. i don't think outside of God's word. so if you can show me in the bible where God grants repentance and forgiveness of sin after someone dies an unbeliever, that is what i'm looking for or your exactly right all we would be doing is thinking outside the box and not relying on God's word.

paul, why is it fallacy to ask for proof in the bible, chapter and verse where God granting repentance and forgiveness of sin after someone dies an unbeliever? fallacy to me would be if you cant show me chapter and verse in the bible. this is where the rubber hits the road for UR and your telling me its a fallacy to show chapter and verse in the bible to prove it?

For me, physical death has nothing to do with any of it. For me, it's all covenental. But; as all have been saying here; you are not ready or willing to receive the verses that touch all of us at the core of our heart. If it's a sin to believe in LOVE never failing; for me and my enemies; then so be it.

lee100

im simply asking you to show me in the bible where God grants repentance and forgiveness of sin when someone dies an unbeliever. asking the exact chapter and verse is biblically correct. is there any other way? im starting to believe ron that there is no scriptures chapter and verse that claim this because all you have been doing is complaining about the manner i ask you to prove this and none of you have gave me chapter and verse. if God said it, it will be in His word, just show me where it is and we can all say hallelujah, God said it and i believe it.

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Paul Hazelwood

im simply asking you to show me in the bible where God grants repentance and forgiveness of sin when someone dies an unbeliever. asking the exact chapter and verse is biblically correct. is there any other way?

Yep, declared statements in scripture that align with all of the bible that do not contradict.If it is not possible for God to deliver a person to the kingdom who dies from this earth in an unrepentant state, then it contradicts scripture that declare what God will do for mankind.

You will only refute that by explaining away scriptures in a way contradictory to your own expectations and ignore the contradiction it raises.

If you do not accept that possibility, then your only here to posture your mocking spirit.

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lee100

if God said it, i will believe it. if he said it..show me where He said it in His word. UR theology's foundation is God grants repentance and faith to people after they die an unbeliever. please show me chapter and verse. no more no less. why is this so difficult to do? im here to see in God's word where He grants repentance and forgiveness of sins when someone dies an unbeliever. are you going to show me?

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Paul Hazelwood

if God said it, i will believe it. if he said it..show me where He said it in His word. UR theology's foundation is God grants repentance and faith to people after they die an unbeliever. please show me chapter and verse. no more no less. why is this so difficult to do?

I answered your previous question with an explanation, do you accept that explanation or not?

lee100

i'm really dizzy from all this runaround. i have made a plain, simple request for chapter and verse to show that God grants repentance and forgiveness of sin after somone dies an unbeliever. and you and others have not done this. the answer to your question lies in the chapter and verse in the bible where God grants repentance and forgiveness of sin after somenone die an unbeliever to support 1Tim 2:4. do you not understand this? this is the hole in UR if you cannot show me chapter and verse where God grants repentance and forgiveness of sin after someone dies an unbeliever.

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Zeek

i'm really dizzy from all this runaround. i have made a plain, simple request for chapter and verse to show that God grants repentance and forgiveness of sin after somone dies an unbeliever. and you and others have not done this. the answer to your question lies in the chapter and verse in the bible where God grants repentance and forgiveness of sin after somenone die an unbeliever to support 1Tim 2:4. do you not understand this? this is the hole in UR if you cannot show me chapter and verse where God grants repentance and forgiveness of sin after someone dies an unbeliever.

it's only a hole, if u place "physical death" as the determining factor.

This is the hole in UR? Well, CoG/lee, I thought you were here to find out the truth of UR. Seems to me you already had YOUR mind made up before you got here. I'm sure someone will come along to reply in due season. Blessings....

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"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

Paul Hazelwood

i'm really dizzy from all this runaround. i have made a plain, simple request for chapter and verse to show that God grants repentance and forgiveness of sin after somone dies an unbeliever. and you and others have not done this. the answer to your question lies in the chapter and verse in the bible where God grants repentance and forgiveness of sin after somenone die an unbeliever to support 1Tim 2:4. do you not understand this? this is the hole in UR if you cannot show me chapter and verse where God grants repentance and forgiveness of sin after someone dies an unbeliever.

Good night Lee.

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lee100

brother, everyone is going to die. they all do not die believers, most die unbelievers. therefore, in order for them to believe, according to UR it happens after they die. again give chapter and verse where this happens.

Zeek

brother, everyone is going to die. they all do not die believers, most die unbelievers. therefore, in order for them to believe, according to UR it happens after they die. again give chapter and verse where this happens.

i already gave u verses that after someone dies they are granted relationship with Lord Jesus Christ. You just want death defined your way, so within your "limited" defined perception; the bible has no verses that talk of your perception of UR

i'm really dizzy from all this runaround. i have made a plain, simple request for chapter and verse to show that God grants repentance and forgiveness of sin after somone dies an unbeliever. and you and others have not done this. the answer to your question lies in the chapter and verse in the bible where God grants repentance and forgiveness of sin after somenone die an unbeliever to support 1Tim 2:4. do you not understand this? this is the hole in UR if you cannot show me chapter and verse where God grants repentance and forgiveness of sin after someone dies an unbeliever.

I dont think there will be any unbelievers after physical death guaranteed

Jesus destroyed DEATH man at the Cross

Rev 1:18 I [am] he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

I tell you the Lord God is more merciful than any one can ever Imagine

i want to believe UR, you guys are not giving me a reason to. i simply asking for chapter and verse of where God grants repentance and forgiveness of sins after they die an unbeliever. maybe tommorrow someone on this forum will give me the chapter and verse.

i want to believe UR, you guys are not giving me a reason to. i simply asking for chapter and verse of where God grants repentance and forgiveness of sins after they die an unbeliever. maybe tommorrow someone on this forum will give me the chapter and verse.

that's not what the verse says, believeest in him and NEVER die. Do you believe it?