im not sure this one is retired, because i just picked it up off a shelf in a popular store last week, but never mind that. its a cool beer, probably not worth what i paid for it, but thats the gamble with all of this beautifully packaged italian stuff thats blowing up everywhere, its not all amazing, but when it hits, it hits hard. this is a saison type with a really neat yeast strain in it, short of what we require to be a wild ale here, but its moving more in that direction than the belgian or american saison yeast types. wheat base from what i can discern, and it tastes pretty fresh, refined, and somewhat rustic. its hazy and pale, with a ton of bubbles, a creamy feel, and frothy but dry finish with a light white pepper flavor, soft and unique. the flavor of the beer moves from rather neutral malt to european hops and then the yeast, which really is the star of the show, i wish i saved the bottle to culture some. farmy but tamed by the creaminess of the body on this one. i liked the beer, but is it way better than the basic american take on the style? im not sure, its definitely a little different, more yeasty and whole, but im not sure i would buy it again, even for half the price.

Appearance has an incredible cream-colored huge thick, very long-lasting head, with some lace and a cloudy honey amber color. aroma is used bread dough and hops. Flavor is like aroma plus some additional flavors of resin, wood, malt sweetness and slightly oxidized hops. Body is very good. not sure what kind of beer this is; tastes to me a little bit like an old ale, but whatever kind it is, it's decent enough