Norma enjoying the sun with Beverly Herbert. The Vance and Herbert families set up a "writer's household" in Chapala. A flag was hoisted in the apartment every day during "writer's hours". The experiment lasted a few weeks. Chapala, Mexico c.1953.

Norma outside the house in Glenwood. Jack and Norma lived here (with their cats) while Jack worked on the West Side Firehouse. Their automobile at that time was a Willys Jeepster. Glenwood, California c.1954.