<quoted text>If that's what you take away from what Melissa Harris said, you're the one who needs a break from the crack pipe and seek help for that serious case of craniorectal inversion you seem to be afflicted with. Your head's so far up your arse you eat every meal twice.Only a left wing nutcase would defend the idea that "your children are not your children, they belong to the state" and try to explain it away as you did above. The idea that children belong to the state and not to their parents or their families is straight out of communist ideology (the Nazi party in Germany held that belief as well) and it takes a village idiot to spew that sort of crap and a bunch of sheeple to defend it.Melissa Harris considers an unborn child a 'thing' that 'takes a lot of money to turn into a human'.I bet she's one of your heros.I will now sit back and await another long-winded, meaningless diatribe of a response from you that isn't worth the pixels it's composed of or the energy it takes to transmit it across cyberspace.

I'm sure you'll let us know when they decide to exercise their ownership of your children and come to pick them up.

And nowhere in that video did I see her say unborn children are things. Maybe the video you linked wasn't the one you saw. Even when I searched I couldn't find where she had.

It really doesn't matter though because that's the first thing you on the right argue about EVERYTHING against liberals...abortion. It's ALWAYS your fall back argument. As I've said many times before I am not, NOT, a proponent of abortion. But I'm more conservative than you are though in that. I don't believe it's up to me to force a woman to have a child under any and all circumstances. Whereas you obviously believe that is an area where you get to deny personal and conscious freedoms.

Obviously you haven't had any children as you don't believe it is very expensive to have a child and raise them.

When we had ours it was $2,400 +or- whereas now it ranges $6,000 -$10,000. With ours that included a weeks stay in the hospital. Now it's what?...the insurance company says you need to be out in three days without abnormal care needed?

Oh, and isn't it interesting that insurance companies, you know, those private organizations that will save us all, don't consider an unborn child a person if killed in an accident or some other cause where the mother does live through it.

http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/bill-ayers-confirm... Do you really know who your president is? More prof that the main stream news has a communist/socialist agenda. All Americans should be concerned if you want to continue to live in a free country.

<quoted text>The answer? YES. A resounding yes. Beck, Limpjaw, Hannity, O'Riely have been proven wrong time after time after time and still it makes no difference to the right-wing minions. Fox News has admitted they lie, and STILL the right-wing- minions haven't figured out they are being duped.Yes the Neo-Nazi movement is in this country. They have been for decades. Have you bothered to check into what political ideology they most resemble. A hint. Definitely NOT Liberal/Progressive/Democratic .The "Nazi-Socialists hate the United States Government even more than you do.

Wrong! They are not in the mountains of Utah nor they on the plains of Kansas. Your methods of deflection are juvenile to say the least. I'll make it simple for you. The lines have been drawn and now we know who we're fighting against. This fight will not be in a courtroom.

...SeenItBefore,....did you actually say, Ms. Harris-Perry cannot be a social engineer, because she is black?....Was that in jest?...There is many black's involved in adopting these government-backed programs, and whatever corner of Washington, either democrat or republican over the many years it has progressed. I can recall many politicians, of every color....advancing the programs that tore apart the Chicago innercity and suburbs, which both attacked the honest taxpayers and with their own tax dollars......Massive damage to american society, and it happened so slowly....most of us did'nt even feel it.....

...SeenItBefore,....did you actually say, Ms. Harris-Perry cannot be a social engineer, because she is black?....Was that in jest?...There is many black's involved in adopting these government-backed programs, and whatever corner of Washington, either democrat or republican over the many years it has progressed. I can recall many politicians, of every color....advancing the programs that tore apart the Chicago innercity and suburbs, which both attacked the honest taxpayers and with their own tax dollars......Massive damage to american society, and it happened so slowly....most of us did'nt even feel it.....

NO. I was not saying because she is black. That was not the jest of it at all. I was saying she should not be considered a social engineer just because she is black. That the state of being black does not make her a social engineer.

But what I did get from what you were saying is she is a social engineer because she is black.

We have a very good friend that had been a social worker all her life. She's white by the way. She filled us in many years ago on the black inner social network and how it had to be different because of the prejudice and segregation in order for them to just be able to survive. We're talking about 200 years of being sub humans in the American society.

All I'm saying by that is I have a different understanding of it.

But no again. I was not saying that Ms. Harris-Perry can not be a social engineer because she is black. I was pointing out that social engineering is not limited to a specific color of people.

My unscientific opinion is, because Henry Ford was one, that it just may come from those who lived through being "less than", Ford's parents being poor Irish immigrants, trying to find a way to become significant in society. A way to fit into a society that says people are supposed to be a certain type to be accepted.

I think labeling what she said as "social engineering" is far too drastic a step.

If it is "social engineering" though, it's been around for a very long time. When I was a kid other parents in the neighborhood would inform my parents if they saw or heard of me doing something wrong. I always knew if something happened to me while my parents weren't immediate there were other adults that would step up.

As she was talking about the funding of public education: "social engineering" wasn't the intent behind it (public education). It was intended for all children to have the opportunity for an education rather than just those who's parents could afford to send their children to a "for pay" school. It was the misconception? that just because some children were "poor" didn't mean they were unworthy of being educated. Apparently the notion that only those able to afford it are worthy of their children being educated?

Are we not now seeing the ill effects of a "hands off my child" mentality? Schools and school administrations are being sued for disciplining children that are bullies? That show signs of being a possible danger to others. Could Adam Lanza been stopped before he shot up the Sandy Hook school?

I was thinking Ms. Harris used the wrong word when she said ownership. Thinking responsibility would have been better used. But now I see that responsibility wouldn't have been any better?

I don't know. Maybe I shouldn't have stopped that small child when they were running out into the parking lot, stopping them from being hit and possible killed by the car coming because I didn't "own" that child to be responsible for them. Maybe I thwarted God's plan that that child was supposed to die at that time.

Maybe I'm a "social engineer" and I just don't know it to believe while I don't have thee responsibility for others children I do have some where it is appropriate. In that I do not believe I have no responsibility for the community I live in. Which includes the country.

But then that would mean people should be productive members of society and not "leaches" upon it is social engineering.

Many times completely irresponsible adults were raised by irresponsible parents. Maybe I'm wrong for believing that's just not the way it should be for a healthy community.

My theory is still....the essence of what she was saying, is about spreading responsibility throughout the community....and deflecting it away from the parents.....

I agree. There is a huge difference between saying that it's the reponsibility of the community to assure that children are not harmed when they see one about to be harmed (ie stop a child from walking out in front of a car) and that schools should be held accountable for what they teach and stating point blank that all children belong to the state. It's telling who is and is not alarmed at that idea being promoted via our media outlets.

My theory is still....the essence of what she was saying, is about spreading responsibility throughout the community....and deflecting it away from the parents.....

The woman said nothing, nor did she even remotely imply by her remarks that deflecting 'responsibility' away from parents and spreading it throughout the community is the goal.More bull-shit from the lunatic fringe taking something some said TOTALLY out of context and then railing about it and spinning it into bull-shit. Go back and listen to what she said again and try to understand (with your obviously racist little brain) that in an ideal world kids are to be treasured and valued NOT ONLY by their parents but the community as well. And if that thinking was adopted not only would the parents benefit but the community-at-large would also. No where was she advocating taking kids away from their parents or deflecting responsibility for the way parents raised their kids and blaming or making the community responsible for their kids.

That's the point she was trying to make. Not this spin bull shit by the right wing propaganda machine is trying to fill the heads of crazies who have nothing to do all day but be lead around with a ring in their noses.

Ha..... The libs are perplexed.... How to control individualists...... Self reliant by the way......

LOL. how are the libs perplexed that they can't control individualists? Look wierdo, you can't even pull yourself away from the computer and the right wing spin machine for a day. Who the F are you trying to kid. Who's being control here AND by WHOM? I'll tell you what twerp, your bird brain is maxed out with theBlaze and rush Limpballs to the point I doubt you can even tie your shoelaces without someone's help. Again who's being controlled and by whom?

<quoted text>The woman said nothing, nor did she even remotely imply by her remarks that deflecting 'responsibility' away from parents and spreading it throughout the community is the goal.More bull-shit from the lunatic fringe taking something some said TOTALLY out of context and then railing about it and spinning it into bull-shit. Go back and listen to what she said again and try to understand (with your obviously racist little brain) that in an ideal world kids are to be treasured and valued NOT ONLY by their parents but the community as well. And if that thinking was adopted not only would the parents benefit but the community-at-large would also. No where was she advocating taking kids away from their parents or deflecting responsibility for the way parents raised their kids and blaming or making the community responsible for their kids.That's the point she was trying to make. Not this spin bull shit by the right wing propaganda machine is trying to fill the heads of crazies who have nothing to do all day but be lead around with a ring in their noses.

They don't understand. They can't understand. They don't want to understand.

Even as an "indoctrinated liberal" as I am "they" would NEVER have wanted to come and take ownership of my children.

These conservative responses though are telling as to why we are having the out-of-control rampaging catastrophes like Sandy Hook. It's this new mindset that nobody has any right to even suggest what is proper behavior and what isn't. Behavior is strictly a personal choice and everyone else just has to live with it.

<quoted text>They don't understand. They can't understand. They don't want to understand.Even as an "indoctrinated liberal" as I am "they" would NEVER have wanted to come and take ownership of my children.These conservative responses though are telling as to why we are having the out-of-control rampaging catastrophes like Sandy Hook. It's this new mindset that nobody has any right to even suggest what is proper behavior and what isn't. Behavior is strictly a personal choice and everyone else just has to live with it.

Don't assume anything. We are not talking about your average tear-jerking liberals here. These are Nazi socialists, communists and other assorted authoritarians. There may come a day where you'll appreciate the digging done by the conservative groups as they will be the ONE thing that prevented oppression from taking hold in this country. You just may come to appreciate the fact that we can avoid Syrian-like warfare in this country by keeping the light of truth shinning on these traitors. Having said all that, I am more than able to sit across a table and debate issues with those from the Democratic Party. I will, however, never negotiate with a Nazi socialist or a communist. Those people are the scum of the Earth!

How funny is this?...For months and months they have yelled..."When is President Obama gonna come up with a budget?"...Now that he has, bet they run to the microphones to complain about it, without reading it......

<quoted text>Don't assume anything. We are not talking about your average tear-jerking liberals here. These are Nazi socialists, communists and other assorted authoritarians. There may come a day where you'll appreciate the digging done by the conservative groups as they will be the ONE thing that prevented oppression from taking hold in this country. You just may come to appreciate the fact that we can avoid Syrian-like warfare in this country by keeping the light of truth shinning on these traitors. Having said all that, I am more than able to sit across a table and debate issues with those from the Democratic Party. I will, however, never negotiate with a Nazi socialist or a communist. Those people are the scum of the Earth!

While you are distracted by the "Nazi socialists", the "communists" and "other assorted authoritarians" you are missing the real threat to your freedom. Freedom being the availability to produce an American lifestyle. Pay attention to who has the most to gain. Follow the money. Who will benefit the most.

If you have streaming Netflix or some other media you can watch this see We Are Not Broke.

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