Joe
You boondock? If so you could stay 14 days at one of the BLM sites then get a 14 day permit on one of the LTVA's. Believe its around 40.00 for a short term LTVA permit.

can you explain how this works?

There is BLM land with free boondocking for 14 days then you have to move 25 miles - do you move to another BLM area for another 14 days then return to your first area?

Seems the LTVA is different than BLM boondocking. If you got the 7 month 140.00 pass can you stay in the same LTVA for more than 14 days? Or do you have to move around every 14 days with the long term pass too?
Thanks

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Go to blm.gov and check it out. The $180.00 permit allows you to stay in any of the 6 LTVA areas all winter and have access to their dumps/fresh water/dumpsters. You do not have to move. My buddy just bought his again for this season. I usually do a 14 day permit ($40) and then a second one in the same location (LaPosa South). At least this year. We'll do some free 14 day stuff after that.

Thanks - that helps. I read the BLM rules but it wasn't clear that you don't have to move with the LTVA 180 pass. It does day with the 40.00 pass you have to move 25 miles. And the free areas you have to move as well every 14 days.

I like that 180 pass if you don't have to move. Makes it easy.

But not sure about the quiet hours on LTVA - which is why I like the idea of true boondocking so I can set my genny to autostart if batteries get too low running furnace or whatnot.

This is year 2 that we stay at the LTVA so keep the questions comming.
Jim, dont think any LTVA in TX or NM.
I was very impressed with TX state park system. Some great deals.
New Mexico state parks disapointing. I noticed the upkeep around Carlsbad Caverns lacking. Interior of the Cafe tad on the dumpy side. I used to work in the foodservice industry so i tend to check for cleaning behind registers floors and such.

Not really any quiet hours on the LTVA sites. Not a big issue till around the big RV show. It then fills up and kinda funny in the am to wake up and hear the drone of 800 plus generators running in the distance. Every once in a while you might have some idiot running a LOUD contractor generator. I also set my quietdiesel on autostart. I installed 1k of solar on the top of the rig so i seldom run genset. Deb loves to bake in the convection oven which is just fine with me. Just last night she baked an apple pie!
With the solar topside we can run fans ALL DAY! Helps us get past those hot days in October, early november.
I had my "personal" web site listed in my signature but had to remove it because one of the admins told me it was a compeditor web site!
So I pulled it. First time i was ever told that in 12 years.

Seasonal of course, local store owners start opening up around this time of year and start posting posistions. Restaurant work, park maintance work. Some of the tire shops post for help. Then around early November the vendors start rolling in and some post for help. Just before the big rv show alot of vendors looking for help as well then mid January is starts to dry up around here.
The Desert Messenger now has an online version http://www.desertmessenger.com

One of the tasks here in the LTVA's is of course transporting black/grey to the dump station.Laposa South has a seperate station for totes. I was thinking of getting one of those big blue totes with thebtires on it BUT ran across something that looks more practical.
At the well stocked hardware store here in town i spotted a white 55 gallon drum with the 4" gate valve. It appears you can use a macerator to fill it up. If one had one of those hitch racks it might be the way to go but i dont have a macearator! I believe they where asking $75 dollars for the tank with the valve.

We will be there after Dec 1 - March at Laposa with the Monaco group. Not looking for work but love to work on broken rvs. See my signature

Well if I make it to Winterhaven /Yuma look me up I might still need help with the 82 PA, Currently in Oklahoma City(about 1/2 way) to try and figure it out. She runs fine at 55,60,65 but really hurts around 30ties-40ties. Going to check out the fuel filters first and go from there.
Tim

Well if I make it to Winterhaven /Yuma look me up I might still need help with the 82 PA, Currently in Oklahoma City(about 1/2 way) to try and figure it out. She runs fine at 55,60,65 but really hurts around 30ties-40ties. Going to check out the fuel filters first and go from there.
Tim

Tim
Keep me posted on your progress. Do you think your going to be passing thru Quartzsite?
Id love to see that rig of yours! You say thats a 1982 Pace Arrow?
I had a 93 Pace Arrow Diesel Pusher with the 8.3l 250HP mechanical Cummins coupled to an Allison 3060. Man was that a sweet rig. Id get around 10mpg in that guy towing an 05 Jeep Grand Cherokee!
Swapped out the head due to a cracked exhaust port on the head.