by Meghan

Tuesday, Jul 1, 2014 at 9:33 AM EST

In a 5-4 ruling, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of Hobby Lobby on Monday. In his majority opinion, Justice Samuel Alito wrote that forcing companies to pay for certain types of women’s contraception they object to violates the 1993 Religious Freedom Restoration Act.

To put this case in perspective, Hobby Lobby is an Oklahoma-based retail chain owned by the Green family. Because of their Christian beliefs, the Greens were willing to cover 16 of the 20 birth control methods mandated by Obamacare to its employees. The four they objected to involve drugs like the morning after pill Plan B.

Needless to say the left was not pleased with the Supreme Court’s decision. Leftist activists took to social media in the aftermath of the decision to post slogans like:

“Birth control – not my boss’s business!”

On Monday’s Glenn Beck Program, guest host Dana Loesch decided to rework some of the more popular progressive slogans into phrases a little more in keeping with the reality of the situation.

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Here are some of the more apropos slogans Dana proposed:

“Not my boss’s business — but I want my boss to pay for it!”

“Hands off my uterus — just give it your dollars instead.”

“Women united will never be defeated (so pay for our birth control).”

“Not the church, not the state, women must control our fate (please finance our fate).”

Ultimately, as Dana explained, a woman’s access to contraceptives has not changed – there are as many restrictions now as there were before. What has changed is an employer’s right to exercise its freedom of religion.

Front page image courtesy of the AP

Davd Williams

Q:Hey, What do you can a women who sells herself for money.
A: A
Q: What do you call a women who sells herself for $20?
A: A Cheap
Q: What do you call a women who sells her soul for $20 a month?
A: A Democrat.

Anonymous

@davdwilliams:disqus- This is a very intelligent statement, what lead you to this conclusion. (sarcasm intended) – And you wonder why the right has a bad reputation.

David

Ever heard of spell check? Most intelligent people have ….

kimmy

David LOL you should check your post as well. You said What do you “can” a woman..

Becca

When you have no valid argument attack grammar or call names, it’s the liberal way

john james

Typical Alinsky response. When you lose the argument make personal attacks. Becca you are correct regarding leftist resort to making personal insults when defeated.

CrushDrivels

The “Right” is named “Right” for a reason. Because we are always “Right” DemRat

Davd Williams

On one hand asking women to play for their own birth control means that we are engaging in a War on Women
On the other hand, the left supports and enables a cultures and countries that;
Kills, disfigures, rapes, stones, sells and circumcisions women. But this is multiculturalism so it is good!
Now I consider that somewhere between ignorantly hypocritical and sociopathic. But that is the left for you..

Bert31

I want to make this very clear to you. I don’t care what a woman does as long as I’m not paying for it. If it’s none of my business then I refuse to pay for it. Step 1 to balancing the federal budget, cut ALL funding to Planned Parenthood. I declare a war on EVERY woman who asks me to pay for things that I have a problem with.
By the way, do you really think that Conservatives care what people like you think of them?

john james

Fire Do you really believe we cons give a ship what leftists think of us. You call us racist,bigots,mean-spirited.hate-filled homophobes and you really think we care what you think of us. GROW-UP LEFTIST.

Anonymous

@disqus_u2D6qTwct4:disqus – I can assure you I am not a leftist by ANY stretch of the imagination. I did not call anyone a “racist,bigots,mean-spirited.hate-filled homophobes” posters call themselves that by the comments they post. The “RIGHT” is right, but when we loose the ability to win our arguments with Facts and Logic and we lower ourselves to tasteless name calling we are no better then the left.

Robin Imse

I agree. I’m VERY conservative but I def think making crude jokes like that does nothing but encourage liberals to do the same and think poorly of us. They are human beings, too. Let’s not forget that. They feel just as strongly about their beliefs as we do and they have their own reasons for thinking that way. Let’s not give them more reasons to hate us. Let’s be respectful and kind. If we take our stand in a kind, mature way, two things can happen: 1) Their response will become kinder and more mature or 2) They’ll still respond in an awful way but at least we won’t be the ones looking like jerks. That will speak far more than disrespectful jokes and name calling.

Memento Mori

“Not the church, not the state, women must control our fate” LOL! (Not from business, or state aid, go buy your own if you wanna get laid!)

I would love to see women hold themselves to the same standard they hold men to. Your choice happens before the sex!

thedogwalker

Despite what the Left is saying, Hobby Lobby was not against all birth control. They were only against those methods that terminate a pregnancy. Women who work there can still get birth control pills, etc.

Johnny Bravo

Except that Plan B does not terminate pregnancies.

Andrew Hersh

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Becca

Again, facts are not important to liberals.

georgia girl

It makes uterine walls “hostile” so to speak and prevents implantation. Once fertilized..it is a life in God’s eyes. Not your opinion but my belief pertaining to my religion. As for whether other religious groups will be bale to refuse paying for healthcare for women..I highly doubt that will ever be a problem. If it does become a problem it is simple..don’t apply for employment there. Just like Hobby Lobby…don’t work there if you do not believe what they hold close.

Mitch47

Yes it does! Why do you think they call it plan b the morning after pill?

Brian Sprouse

SO what, who cares what it does. A company should have the right to make their own decision on what benefits they provide. It’s called a benefit for a reason. Don’t like the benefits at your job, go find another job.

Anonymous

Except that it does. So say you have sex with someone and use no protection and it is ovulation time. A sperm meets that egg and BAM! Creates a one-celled life form. If that same life form were found on Mars, you’d be screaming that they found life on Mars. So, after a few minutes that one cell divides into two: A zygote, still has unique DNA separate from the Mother. That cell keeps on dividing those first few hours of life, continually doubling the cells as it floats down the fallopian tube.

So Mom decides that she needs to “prevent pregnancy” but technically, she IS pregnant. She goes out and gets Plan B and takes it. Plan B is basically a hormonal overload for her body; it will produce enough hormones so that the body ignores any chemicals coming from the embryo (child) and will shed the lining of the uterus it had already started to create to accept that child and allow it to continue to grow.

After she take the Plan B, the uterus sheds it’s lining and the embryo starves. It’s an abortion, whether or not you accept it as such. It is a chemical abortion -the termination of life due to an outside force.

Anonymous

Totall LOVE the “life on Mars” statement! It’s so true! The Left would be screaming that we can’t go to Mars because we may kill all of the life there with our germs. BUT, when that life exists inside of a woman, it’s her’s to nurture or destroy as she sees fit? AND, we get to pay for it if she decides to kill it?

Becca

The liberals don’t bother themselves with facts!

Edward Schweiger

Facts confuse the issues for them, go to keep it simple for them.

luke

I’m pro-choice, also fiscally conservative. I couldn’t care less what people chose to do. I just don’t want to pay for it. If you’re responsible enough to have sex, you should be responsible enough to pay for your own morning after pills/abortion.

CrushDrivels

welcome to Obama’s world. entitlement

BlueMN

Even though you are “paying for,” as you put it, someone else’s Viagra or Cialis through the same insurance?

BlueMN

Even though you are “paying for,” as you put it, someone else’s ED pills through the same system?

luke

Nope…I have a problem with that as well. I was just trying to stay on that one particular aspect of the bill. My list of issues with Obamacare is a long one.

Anonymous

What about the aspect that the ED pills are actually used to correct a physical problem for men when their body is not functioning correctly? Is that the same way the morning after pill works? The two compared side by side is really like comparing apples and oranges.

Anonymous

One kills babies and the other makes babies!!! Pay attention. There IS a difference between murder and lovemaking.

the 4 types of birth control in question terminate a fertilized egg. This was their argument in the court. They believe life begins at conception. If it doesn’t, can someone tell me when it does start? At 5-6 weeks when the heart starts beating? or at birth? My daughter was born at 28 weeks, as the law is now I could go to the hospital to deliver or to an abortion clinic to abort! Is that murder? she is now a beautiful, health 33 year old. Oh,
they do supply 16 other types of birth control, and have for years.

Anonymous

Congrats on the 33 year old!

drth

from a historically biblical perspective it was believed that life began upon the entrance of the soul into the body of the fetus. this was judged to be when the baby began to move. So from a historically biblical perspective life began weeks after conception. This is why I find the idea of life beginning at conception as a Judeo-Christian religious argument a bit entertaining.

Anonymous

I have asked and asked. Who has insurance that pays for ED pills? Found no one who’s does. Does Obamacare require that ED pills are covered?

Anonymous

You are right the libs made sure years ago that was taken away.

Chris

I understand that for liberals being pregnant is considered a dysfunction. In reality, it’s not and I don’t agree with the comparison. One helps the human body function as it’s supposed to while the other prevents the body from functioning as it’s supposed to.

Jeff

ED is a disorder. Pregnancy is not a disorder…at least last time I checked.

Bert31

Let’s pretend that the SCOTUS decides 5 to 4 against Hobby Lobby and they DO have to pay for all 20 forms of birth control. If the political winds shift and Republicans are in control someday, how many forms of birth control do you think they will make Hobby Lobby cover? I’d take a guess at ZERO.

Anonymous

Actually I think you may be wrong . Many male Republicans have daughters and wives, mother and sisters, they do get it. We all do! We just think that if you are at or below the poverty level, OB and GYN care should be provided, I am betting the government will have a list of what they will cover as they do for everything else medical . If your employer offers this care ,great! However ,the employer, like the government, should have some input re coverage since they pay the bills. If you are middleclass or wealthy ,it should be between you and your Doc ,choose what is best for you and pay.

Bert31

I could very well be wrong. We won’t know that until we see who the next President is.

Roscoe

I love that woman… brains, beauty and attitude! Thank you Ms. Dana.

Johnny Bravo

You guys are sure going to be butthurt when some Muslim group says they shouldn’t be forced to pay for womens’ healthcare.

Interesting that you only want a theocracy when its your particular sect of Christianity.

luke

This has nothing to do with Christianity and everything to do with the Constitution.

Johnny Bravo

Thats right, it does. And now that one religion has been granted special treatment under the law, what possible reason does SCOTUS have to not give other religions special treatment?

What stops someone’s sincere religious beliefs from saying they shouldn’t have to pay for medical insurance at all?

luke

I’m not sure why you consider it special treatment when it was in fact a violation of the constitution in the first place. The Supreme Court didn’t grant anyone anything. It simply upheld the law.

Not sure of any religions that have a part of their belief system that includes not paying for healthcare. Not saying their isn’t one out there, I just haven’t heard of one. I’ll have to get back to you on that one…

Johnny Bravo

Certain religions oppose blood transfusions, vaccinations, psychiatric care, or the use of pig or cow (which is found in anesthesia, pill coatings, IV fluid, etc.

Now, what stops adherents of those religions from refusing to cover these services?

And please, please explain to me why your religion should allow you to be above the law? If your religion says Thou Shalt Speed and you are ticketed for disobeying speed limits, are you being discriminated against by the state? No, you’re being ridiculous.

People need to stop using religion as a way to whine out of their obligations.

Richard Carpenter

Boo hoo, now the women at hobby lobby will have to pay for their own abortion pills. Cry more, loser.

Plan B works by preventing fertilization of the egg. To become pregnant, your egg must be fertilized. If your egg is never fertilized, you cannot be pregnant. If Plan B stops fertilization of the egg, effectively stopping pregnancy, how does it terminate a pregnancy?

Kamie D

You cannot be certain that your egg isn’t fertilized. You can take Plan-B up to 72 hours after having sex. Fertilization occurs within 12 hours, AT MOST. So… your argument is invalid.

“Plan B One-Step is not the same as RU-486, which is an abortion pill. It does not cause a miscarriage or abortion. In other words, it does not stop development of a fetus once the fertilized egg implants in the uterus. So it will not work if you are already pregnant when you take it.”

Kamie D

Are you kidding me??? Look at their website… it will prevent the egg from implanting to the wall and will ABORT it from the body. Seriously, read up before arguing.

Johnny Bravo

From their website

What happens if I’m already pregnant and I take Plan B One-Step®?

There is no medical evidence that Plan B One-Step® would harm a developing baby. Plan B One-Step® will not harm an existing pregnancy. If you have any concerns, please be sure to talk to your healthcare professional.

Kamie D

Ok fine, let’s go back to basic medical terms instead of a corporate website. Once a sperm enters an egg, YOU ARE PREGNANT. Now, go back to the website and find the paragraph that says: “or by preventing attachment (implantation) to the uterus (womb).” That would be an abortion of a fertilized egg which medical science calls a pregnancy.

Johnny Bravo

Actually, the most recent medical science ruling was that pregnancy does not begin until the egg is attached to the uterus.

Kamie D

You can’t just make up stuff when you’re losing the argument. Makes you look like an idiot. Go back to the Mayo website and re-read about pregnancies. It’s when the egg is fertilized. It could attach itself somewhere other than the uterus which is called an ectopic pregnancy. And I’ve exhausted my “teaching” time…. TAG…someone else please take over. Have a nice day.

Kamie D

Religion has ALWAYS been above the law. Haven’t you ever heard of the Amish?

Rob

And proggies need to stop using their religion (worship of self) to whine their way into entitlements. Arrow, every time you post, you take a step back.

Johnny Bravo

So, lol, you think wanting your employer to have to pay what they should be paying under Obamacare is whining?

Tell me, is it whining when women complain about Sharia Law?

Watch it

Apples and oranges – actually a more extremely contrary comparison would be more appropriate.

Kamie D

Amish. No healthcare, no taxes, their own justice unless it involves a non-Amish person.

Drew Pal

You mean equal treatment. Aren’t the constitution and freedom great?

Johnny Bravo

So, just to clarify, if you happen to work for a company owned by a Scientologist, and they refuse to pay for insurance that covers your psychiatric care on religious grounds, you’re okay with that?

True2theDivine

With The Affordable Care Act you now have the option to OPT in to their benefits. Have at it

Bert31

Hypothetically, I’m absolutely not okay with that company. I’d be giving them my 2-week notice right then and there.

Anonymous

Yes, I am ok with that. If I am unhappy with the insurance plan that is offered by a company, I have the freedom to find another job. Or, heaven forbid, purchase my own insurance.

Watch it

The Muslims have already been granted that privilege – to opt out completely from Obamacare.

True2theDivine

I’m sorry I stopped listening to you at Butt-hurt. Children have nothing to add to this conversation. My Little Pony is on better go catch it.

Johnny Bravo

You’re a creationist, aren’t you?

True2theDivine

*Looks at self* No No I seem to look like an adult. Have a great day!

Rob

You are a self-absorbed, greedy, lazy, proggie aren’t you? If you claim the proggie part, the rest come with it. Oh, and True2 is right. You may use ‘grown-up’ words, but you argue like a child.

Johnny Bravo

You’re right. I’m lazy. US Army for four years now, but yes, obviously, I am an ultra progressive liberal because I’m not a theocrat. You can use ad-hominem attacks as much as you want. At the end of the day, you’re wrong.

You’re only cheering for a religious exemption because it happens to be for a religion you believe in.

How would you feel if a Muslim group said that being screened in airport security violated their beliefs? I bet you’d be rather upset. And don’t tell me its not the same, because it is. It boils down to: religious beliefs matter more than the law that applies to everyone else.

Bert31

I’m sure you have that quote from the Koran that states something about airport security, since airplanes were definitely around in the 600s A.D. What a rock-solid argument you’ve presented here.

True2theDivine

Bergdahl was in the Army too. So was the shooter at fort hood. Point?

SubSailorPatriot

Guess you missed the “sincerely held belief” part. Additionally, if an
specific employer refuses to cover what YOU consider essential medical
care, YOU have the option of covering it yourself OR [radical concept
here] find a new job that does. It has always been part of job hunting
to consider the benefits. It has not been a successful job hunting tool
to DEMAND specific benefits that conflict with the employers belief
system – REGARDLESS of the religion.

Johnny Bravo

Here you go, here is a list of other things that could be denied.

Andrew Hersh

They won’t be denied; they simply won’t be paid for by people who don’t believe in them.

If you WANT them, you are welcome to pay for them yourself.

Johnny Bravo

Let me ask you this. If your employer’s religion believes ambulances, surgery, and organ transplants to be immoral, should they have to pay for them?

Kamie D

Why would you work for an employer that you don’t agree with??

Johnny Bravo

What if that is the only employer you can find?

You can’t tell me you’ve never worked for someone who didn’t have your exact same religious beliefs.

Kamie D

If that’s the only employer you can find, you’re not looking. I don’t talk to my employers about my religious beliefs because if none of their business… but I make d@mn sure my insurance covers what I NEED it to. There are a lot of people with disabilities who will pick companies ONLY because the insurance covers what they need it to.

Johnny Bravo

So, what would prevent every corporation in the world from deciding that all want to follow a religion that says they don’t really have to cover any insurance costs?

Kamie D

What would prevent every corporation in the world from offering witch doctors? How about putting up some realistic scenarios for discussion.

Johnny Bravo

How is that unrealistic? Why would a corporation pay more than it has to for healthcare?

Kamie D

1st of all, our constitution does not cover the rest of the world, and secondly, there isn’t insurance available in every country of the world.

Johnny Bravo

My mistake. How about we rephrase “the world” to “the US.”

Jason Fibish

Why do you assume that a benefit is now a divine right? Life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and healthcare, that your boss must pay for. At what point does personal responsibility come into the discussion? I’m self employed. Who should I force to offer the benefits I would want in insurance? The answer is no one. It is my body and my responsibility. Not yours, not the governments, not john q public.

Watch it

The decision had to do with closely held corporations – ie family owned small business, not ALL corporations..

PRCClips

Why would that be the only place you can work for with all the millions of positions open? If you don’t like your ay or benefits its your choice to move on. No one made you work for your employer and just because you are already hired does not mean that now you can try to change the agreement you had when you were hired because you no longer like it.

Anonymous

is there anything else you want an employer to pay for? You know, since I’m a business owner…

Johnny Bravo

Due to this ruling, honestly, its in your best interest to hurry up and establish your history with a religion that prohibits you spending money on others’ healthcare.

The point is, at what point is it too absurd to continue? Today its Hobby Lobby not wanting to pay for Plan B. Tomorrow its whatever other group refusing to pay for blood transfusion costs.

Anonymous

Before you can claim religious reasons, it has to be a recognized religion. Also, the ruling pertains to privately held businesses. So the Exxons of the world don’t have that option. Also, if it’s the only employer in town and you don’t like their benefits package, opt out and purchase your own insurance that covers whatever you want it to.

Anonymous

Medical issues and the inconvenient pregnancy due to getting your rocks off are completely different. Self gratification rules society now.

john james

They want you to pay for everything.

Anonymous

Another tiresome “what if… “

john james

Andrew That is not how leftists think. YOU must pay for their lifestyle.

PRCClips

Why should anyone be FORCED to pay for anything in FREE society? Some employers will still cover medical and its your CHOICE which employer you work for.

Anonymous

Read the ruling. It actually specifically addresses these issues.

Anonymous

I just don’t understand the uproar. What is so hard to understand about:
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;”
The mandate of the 4 drugs “prohibited the free exercise thereof.” Its not even a tough call. Congress made a law prohibiting the free exercise thereof. If the HL people exercised their religious freedom, they would get fined a massive amount of money. That’s a cost- which is the opposite of “free.”
What’s the big controversy?

Johnny Bravo

“And where is the stopping point to the ‘let the government pay’
alternative? Suppose an employer’s sincerely held religious belief is
offended by health coverage of vaccines, or paying the minimum wage or
according women equal pay for substantially similar work. Does it rank
as a less restrictive alternative to require the government to provide
the money or benefit to which the employer has a religion-based
objection?”-Ruth Bader Ginsburg

Anonymous

The limiting principal is the Constitution– Is the law or Government’s action Constitutional. The fact that the ACA Mandate is Unconstitutional is unrelated to how the Congress decides to solve the problem going forward.

The problem Justice Ginsburg has is that she sees her role from the perspective of a Progressive government, not a free people. She should be defending the Constitution, not the Congress.

Johnny Bravo

Umm, I don’t think you’re quite getting it. I mean, the entire can of worms this decision has opened up.

The court has decided that your personal beliefs allow you exemption from the law. The only reason you are happy is because, for now, that company in question has beliefs that are in line with yours.

As soon as your religion isn’t in the majority, you’ll scream louder than everyone else.

Kamie D

Amish aren’t a majority.. they have exemptions….

Anonymous

You’re way off base. The ACA is the can of worms, not this case. This case imposes an already established boundary on the Administration, one they ran over at full speed. The boundary is Amendment #1.

The Court did not rule that personal beliefs allow exemption from the law. The Court ruled that the law was in violation of the Constitution. Stop reading this decision from the perspective of the ACA. Read it from the perspective of the Constitution.

And since my political religion is the Constitution, I’ve been in the minority for many, many years.

Johnny Bravo

I don’t agree with the ACA. I think its unconstitutional, honestly.

But no, the administration did not trample the first amendment. If the administration establishes a law that treats all people equally, (IE, your religion doesnt matter, you must comply), how is that running over the first amendment?

Anonymous

1. I agree with you on the ACA.
2. The Administration does not establish laws, the Congress does. The Administration enforces laws- well, at least they’re supposed to.
3. The rest I see clear as day. The HL people are in a position where they have to violate their religious believes or pay a huge fine. That choice is the problem, for the Congress has now established a law that prevents the free exercise thereof. The key word is free, as in opposite of having a cost. The mandate establishes a cost for their exercising their religious rights.

Its ok. Lets shake hands and move on. We can disagree without being disagreeable.

OldNavy

In the form of Government we had before 2008, you are right that the Executive Branch does not make laws. However, in the present form of government (dictatorship with limited, reactive supreme court oversight), the Executive branch creates laws, enforces them against their political enemies, and ignores the ones they don’t like.

Bert31

Why aren’t you mad at the Clinton Administration and the Democrat-controlled Congress that passed this legislation that the SCOTUS is upholding?

AuntSue

The 1st Amendment prevents the government from interfering in the free exercise of religion. It should prevent the government from trampling on any and all religious belief and practices.

OldNavy

No, the decision didn’t add new rights and it didn’t say “personal beliefs allow you exemption from the law”. What it did say is that the law you are referring to is unconstitutional.

Brian Sprouse

No your not getting it. Court didn’t rule that personal belief allows you to be exempt from the law. They ruled that this mandate could not be a law because it is unconstitutional. If it’s not a law, don’t need to be exempt. Please go read the constitution and Bill of rights, try to understand. What the SCOTUS did is prevent a law from being established that over steps it’s constitutional bounds.

Anonymous

I’m 100% Pro-Choice, not a Christian, and I fully agree with the court on this decision. So you are yet again showing you’re not as swift as you think you are.

Bert31

I’m kind of glad that you said this. If the President tries to circumvent the SCOTUS and invent a new law on his own, he sets a precedent. The next President could be a Republican and he could really turn the tables on Liberals if he has the power to.

john james

I have watched this five times and allow me to give the cliff note version. This is just my opinion. Leftist, communist are like little children who want somelse to take care of them amd consider themselves god.They believe they are the center of the universe.

Kentucky red

Whats hard is for a bunch of whiny lefties to understand that yes people do have freedom of religoun. And no you don’t have a right to make other people pay for everything they want.

Anonymous

Actually, by the SC ruling that the ACA mandate is a tax and that people can be taxed for inaction, they pretty much have opened the door for getting other people to pay for everything. That’s what the ACA is. That’s what Cap and Trade is. Raise the prices on everyone but give subsidies for the lower earners. That’s why my insurance premium went up 100% but others are happy that they’re getting insurance for cheap or free. Their gross costs are high too but they net out very low after my taxes are given to them in the form of subsidies.

Dave

You are ABSOLUTELY right. My $950/mo insurance just jumped to $1,450/mo. The good news: My wife and I qualify for a subsidy, the bad news: our children do not, they must go on CHIP (Children’s Health Insurance Plan – essentially Medicare), which I WILL NOT put my children into. I will not latch on to the government teet.

We have opted to go into a medi-share plan. We are technically uninsured, but are not penalized by govt for being uninsured. We will have no preventive care/well-visit coverage, that is all out of pocket. However, we have catastrophic coverage in a PPO.

When I contacted my insurer to find out why such a crazy increase, I was informed that it was to cover the new mandates in the ACA.

THAT is one of the many dirty little secrets of the Until-ACA..

Brian Sprouse

Actual freedom and liberty isn’t a concern for a liberal. They do what ever they can to force others the think and act as they believe others should.

“Would the exemption…extend to employers with religiously grounded objections to blood transfusions (Jehovah’s Witnesses); antidepressants (Scientologists); medications derived from pigs, including anesthesia, intravenous fluids, and pills coated with gelatin (certain Muslims, Jews, and Hindus); and vaccinations[?]…Not much help there for the lower courts bound by today’s decision.”

“Approving some religious claims while deeming others unworthy of accommodation could be ‘perceived as favoring one religion over another,’ the very ‘risk the [Constitution’s] Establishment Clause was designed to preclude.”

Zomin8tor

Funny how Obama gives a TON of Obamacare exemptions to his buddies (eg, unions, etc.), but wont give the same privilege to religious groups.

Kamie D

He gave exemptions to muslim and Amish… just not to everyone else

Anonymous

Women sell themselves short if they sell their soul for $9.00 per month.
They claim independence, but yet they can’t afford to buy themselves the “NIGHT AFTER” pill. The dems are once again stretching the truth…once again disseminating false information about the Supreme Court decision.

HL pays for 16 out of 20 birth control pills. They refuse to pay for the night after pills and the kill the kids pills. If a woman is SO LOOSE and, she has so much sex indiscriminately that she gets herself pregnant on a REGULAR basis, this baby killer should pay for her own pill form of abortion!

Maybe she should practice keeping her “war on women” legs together!

Anonymous

And practice discrimination on her choice of partners.

http://philmon.blogspot.com philmon

What your boss pays for is absolutely your boss’s business. What you do with what he pays you is yours. Act accordingly.

Dan H

HAHAHAHAH. Liberals continue to proudly display their stupidity and sense of entitlement.

Sherri Cruz (D-Ret)

One thing about the “morning after pill”..it is now an OTC medication that can be purchased at your local pharmacy. I personally know of NO INSURANCE that will cover OTC meds. And for the argument that the left is making that Hobby Lobby will still cover Viagra and vasectomies: Viagra is covered by most insurance companies if the patient has a medical condition causing or contributing to ED. Yes, Hobby Lobby’s coverage does cover vasectomies…as well as tubal ligations.

No libs, the sky is NOT falling…Hobby Lobby did NOT take away their employees access to contraceptives; in fact, their medical plan has more options than I have available.

Mitch47

You know it just dawned on me, there is a war against men in this country! They don’t want men to have any say so about sex, birth control or having children, they are fine with men going on down the road and letting Uncle Sam help raise and support them!

Anonymous

I’ve often wondered why a woman has a right to do what ever she wants to with an unborn baby because it’s her body, but the father has no say in it. If the woman decides to keep the baby, then the father is expected to be a part of supporting that child. It makes no sense to me that he only matters when it comes to the money.

Sonny Vega

…………….. I don’t understand the reasoning on thinking that a abortion and health care.. are the same thing.. cause one (health care is for illness/diseases/virus..etc.. RIGHT…….. BUT a abortion is because they (meaning you woman).. let their freedom of choice of choosing the wrong guy.. become a mistake the next day.. RIGHT..

George

It is real simple ladies:
If you don’t want to get pregnant, then keep your legs closed.
If YOU CHOOSE to have sex, then buy your own contraceptive! Don’t demand or expect someone else to do it for you!
It’s time that people start becoming responsible once again for their own actions and not placing the blame and/or responsibility on someone else!

Matt

Hobby Lobby has invested $70 + million in stock in Duramed (The company that makes plan B) in their company 401k. Good to know Hobby Lobby has no problem investing in plan b but don’t want their employees taking it.

MI Mitten

they can take it, HL just doesn’t have to pay for it

Jennifer Guthrie Packard

how much do you know about 401ks? HL doesn’t decide what companies they invest in…an investment broker makes those decisions.

Matt

I know a little bit being that Im a financial advisor. Company chooses mutual funds for 401k, fund manager for mutual fund chooses investments.

Everyone who is involved in the 401k, including HL who is matching the funds of employees is disclosed which companies are invested in. SEC and FINRA heavily regulate securities. Every quarter you are sent a statement which the list of companies you invested in. HL’s compliance dept is sent the same statement. Due to FINRA and SEC, company must keep detailed documents of who they are invested in, and keep those on file for several years.

Ever heard of Enron? 1000’s employes lost there retirement due to the same ignorance your claiming. I can tell you someone in that closely held corp knows they are matching funds with a company that makes abortion meds.

So by your logic, HL can read a 20,000 page document, The Health Care Act, but didn’t read a 10-20 page 401k earning summary and see Duramed is a company they invested in?

Further more, you think it would be easier to take a case to the Supreme Court and pay lawyers and the like to overturn a a federal law, but it just seems impossible to find out what your company 401k is investing in…Thats odd

How much do you know how 401ks again?

Watch it

From personal experience: We received the statements which showed the various investments, but where the investments were in mutual funds, the companies in that fund were not delineated.

Anonymous

Although you would have to know that Duramed is now TEVA Women’s Health and you would have to go to their product list to find out what they make. Most people would likely realize that it’s a drug company and be done at that. They would likely not go to the trouble to find out what all of the drugs are that are made by that company. Kind of like if my 401k invested in Starbucks, I could tell you that they make coffee but I couldn’t tell you all of the varieties.

Anonymous

It’s disgusting how the Democrats and women activist are misinterpreting the SC decision promoting the lie that Hobby Lobby wants to prevent all birth control supplements. There are 20 BC medications. Hobby lobby supports 16 of them for their employees. The four they don’t want to support have only to do with those triggering abortion. The SC complied based on religious freedom and a law passed by Pres. Clinton. Of course, the media and those that want to penalize the Reps.( Dems., the President, Hilary)) will continue to spew the lies hoping to get more votes. Few will actually read the decision and will keep drinking the coolade.

Viventis

Catholics do not believe that ANY birth control is appropriate. This ruling now allows any huge, closely held corporation owned by a Catholic to refuse to provide any birth control in their insurance polcies. As Justice Ginsburg correctly pointed out, the courts can’t discriminate against Catholics, so this ruling directly applies to them.

William Kister

“Birth control – not my boss’s business!”, What’s the problem then? Keep it out of their business and don’t have them pay for it.

Anonymous

Exactly! Why is that so hard to understand?

Anonymous

If a man can be forced to pay child support, why does he not get abortion rights as well?

drth

Let’s think about the farther reaching consequences of this ruling for a moment…i’ll let the descent speak for itself:

Ginsburg wrote that her five male colleagues, “in a decision of startling breadth,” would allow corporations to opt out of almost any law that they find “incompatible with their sincerely held religious beliefs.”

“The exemption sought by Hobby Lobby and Conestoga would…deny legions of women who do not hold their employers’ beliefs access to contraceptive coverage”

“Religious organizations exist to foster the interests of persons subscribing to the same religious faith. Not so of for-profit corporations. Workers who sustain the operations of those corporations commonly are not drawn from one religious community.”

“Any decision to use contraceptives made by a woman covered under Hobby Lobby’s or Conestoga’s plan will not be propelled by the Government, it will be the woman’s autonomous choice, informed by the physician she consults.”

“It bears note in this regard that the cost of an IUD is nearly equivalent to a month’s full-time pay for workers earning the minimum wage.”

“Would the exemption…extend to employers with religiously grounded objections to blood transfusions (Jehovah’s Witnesses); antidepressants (Scientologists); medications derived from pigs, including anesthesia, intravenous fluids, and pills coated with gelatin (certain Muslims, Jews, and Hindus); and vaccinations[?]…Not much help there for the lower courts bound by today’s decision.”

“Approving some religious claims while deeming others unworthy of accommodation could be ‘perceived as favoring one religion over another,’ the very ‘risk the [Constitution’s] Establishment Clause was designed to preclude.”

“The court, I fear, has ventured into a minefield.”

Bert31

If you want me or anybody to help you pay for something that I don’t feel like paying for, all I can say is, GOOD LUCK! LOL!

drth

You sir…missed the whole point.

Anonymous

Birth control is not being denied to anyone. Healthcare is not being denied to anyone. The only thing being denied in this case is the privilege of having it paid for by someone else. When did having your abortion pills being paid for by someone else become a right?

drth

Do some research…the claims that the 4 listed medications are abortients is scientifically unfounded, meaning that the claim that they violate their religious beliefs is shaky to begin with. Second all that is required by the law is that the employer provide benefits that cover the medications, this doesn’t mean the employer buys the medications, it means that the insurance agency covers them if the woman and her physician decide it is the best medical course of action. This should have been a non-issue for the court…however apparently corporations representing thousands of people from varying cultures and belief systems are allowed to also be people…you know except for paying taxes, being thrown in jail for causing the deaths of people, etc…you know the inconvenient things.

Anonymous

How do come to the determination that corporations don’t pay taxes? The business my husband and I own is incorporated. The corporation pays FICA taxes on employee wages, Medicare taxes on employee wages, state unemployment taxes on employees, federal unemployment taxes on employees, sales tax for items purchased for the corporation’s consumption, and then because we still own that desk, computer, artwork, etc. every year the corporation gets the benefit of paying ‘personal property tax’ on it (because sales tax on it when purchased wasn’t enough), all those added in taxes on the phones and cell phones. And, if there’s profit left over at the end of the year, the corporation pays tax on that. Oh, and if you’re an attorney in the state of Texas, you also get to pay an occupation tax. Don’t assume that because a corporation didn’t pay federal income tax that they pay no taxes.
Further, if the corporation is paying for your insurance, and that insurance premium is increased for coverage of said pills (that don’t cause an abortion but will cause a fertilized egg to be aborted because the pill blocks implantation) then they are in essence paying for these medications. Again, when did it become your right for your boss pay for any of this? If you don’t like your employer’s benefit package then either buy your own coverage, buy your own birth control, or find another job.

Yeah I’m all for equality and junk but not when a good thing like equality is being preached to be stupid or socialist it gets me annoyed at best, merciless at worst. Pay for somebody else’s condoms and pills? I find that just a tad nutty.
Thing is, that by itself shouldn’t have pissed lefties off, but the fact somebody’s religion was involved, oh my goodness it means we’re gonna have corporate fascism and sharia law tomorrow.
I feel sorry for legitimate things people go through. Black and white, male and female, religious and non religious. Injustice sucks. These people have a case to tell me why they are upset with an imperfect and flawed society.
This is not one of those cases. Sorry feminists, gonna have to make a better case than that. Now if you crazies will get out of my way I’m gonna go talk to a friend of mine who was raped in the army and a recent friend in college who was actually harassed by the police for being black.
Ya know, people with a REAL problem. Not people pretending to be going through someone else’s problem.

bucketnutz

Hobby Lobby has done us all a great service and I will go t one of their stores and find something to buy, to support them in return.

australian stockman

Just a question: “Contraception” seems to be categorized (quite often) as a “womens health issue”. I don’t think I quite understand that. Is it not possible for a woman to be healthy without contraception? Or – more specifically (in this case), is it not possible for a woman to be healthy without taking “morning after” pills? I mean, are they sort of like “necessary vitamins” or something? Hey, I’m a “guy”. I know a lot of women don’t want men involved in making decisions about their “health issues”, but I’m just hoping somebody can explain how a “morning after” pill keeps a woman healthy. I guess I’m just not getting that….

luceChange

Simple Question! What Part of the US Constitution gives the Government the Right and/or Power to mandate that an employer pay an employee anything but the Salary Earned for the Job performed? What the Employee does with the Salary is their business and RESPONSIBILITY.

The reason we are in this mess is that we allowed our government to impose itself upon us. Keep asking UNKA Obozo to take care of you. I can guarantee you won’t like the end results.

Arthur Istook

Since liberty impels a free country’s citizens to unleash their talents, skills, and knowledge, free citizens are able to learn more, know more, and achieve more than those subjected to collectivism’s ever-shifting mirage of illusions.