Hmm, I think Edoc may have a similar thing to me, mine did not go through neither.

But I am not insane, so perhaps it is people who do not use their roles who go insane? Or maybe it's neither and scum or third party have a power to MAKE people go insane.. But what I find amusing are people who suggested people going insane back on D1. That's mighty suspicious to be right on in a mafia game...

jak111 wrote:Hmm, I think Edoc may have a similar thing to me, mine did not go through neither.

But I am not insane, so perhaps it is people who do not use their roles who go insane? Or maybe it's neither and scum or third party have a power to MAKE people go insane.. But what I find amusing are people who suggested people going insane back on D1. That's mighty suspicious to be right on in a mafia game...

he who sleeps shall fall, he who falls shall rise, he who rises has conquered.

i dont believe i was using the language of the great old ones, but rather the cosmic language.and its not necessarily a vote stealer. it could be vote-blocker or ability blocker or something.remember that this set-up is very non-standard.

jak111 wrote:Hmm, I think Edoc may have a similar thing to me, mine did not go through neither.

But I am not insane, so perhaps it is people who do not use their roles who go insane? Or maybe it's neither and scum or third party have a power to MAKE people go insane.. But what I find amusing are people who suggested people going insane back on D1. That's mighty suspicious to be right on in a mafia game...

From the WIKI HP Lovecraft page.

"The beings of Lovecraft's mythos often have human (or mostly human) servants; Cthulhu, for instance, is worshipped under various names by cults amongst both the Eskimos of Greenland and voodoo circles of Louisiana, and in many other parts of the world.These worshippers served a useful narrative purpose for Lovecraft. Many beings of the Mythos were too powerful to be defeated by human opponents, and so horrific that direct knowledge of them meant insanity for the victim. When dealing with such beings, Lovecraft needed a way to provide exposition and build tension without bringing the story to a premature end. Human followers gave him a way to reveal information about their "gods" in a diluted form."

What drives people insane is learning the forbidden knowledge of the Old Ones. I do not believe power roles per say cause insanity. I suspect Edocsil hit the nail on the head. I believe Vodean is insane because he sought direct knowledge from an Old One such as Yogsothoth ( I say this because of his rant). It appears he tried to beseech Yogsothoth to raise someone from the dead but that could also be a red herring. he may have tried to beseech knowledge and his rant may be the price.

Jonty also appears to have suffered the consequences of achieving some sort of knowlege though he appears to be more coherent then not.

I stated earlier in the game that there may be varying degrees of insanity dependent on the type of knowledge sought. This is how they handled the varying aspects of insanity in the D&D role playing game. One started with a pool of sanity points, which were used up dependent on the knowledge learned.

To answer the alignment color questions.Shoggoth was a third party win condition of some sort, if I do not specifically say "town", it is safe to assume they are not specifically "town", special conditions get special colors.

DoomYoshi wrote:Rodion: not posted yet today, likes to lay low until day 3, can we at least get an acknowledgment of the scene? Why didn't you vote for elon yesterday even though you supported the case?

I'm behind. Gonna catch up soon.

Meanwhile, regarding Elon, I never supported the case. I said you had reached an interesting conclusion but it sorely depended on a premise ("all human 'VTs' got the same role PM"). Then I asked you whether you had proof that all "humans" had the same role PM, which would convince me, but you never presented that proof.

I suppose if we were to assume that someone went insane, it might actually be a signal that they're not mafia or a monster third party or whatever. We know monsters don't go insane, and mafia cultists (if there indeed are some) would most likely not be given debilitating insanity PR's. Certainly not ones that would last multiple days.

safariguy5 wrote:I suppose if we were to assume that someone went insane, it might actually be a signal that they're not mafia or a monster third party or whatever. We know monsters don't go insane, and mafia cultists (if there indeed are some) would most likely not be given debilitating insanity PR's. Certainly not ones that would last multiple days.

Although now that you say that it won't work on anyone in the future. As every new case would be WIFOM as to if they are genuine or faking it.

Kanin Usagi wrote:I would be willing to bet that Vodean can't directly address the whole chanting issue. After all, many insane people don't even realize that something is necessarily wrong.

Unfortunately Vodean is being deliberately(?) obtuse in areas unrelated to that as well. So either the hypothetical insanity prevents him from giving a direct answer to anything, in which case is what use is he anymore, or he needs to get his shit together and play competently.