UPDATED: Travellers set up camp in Radcliffe

TRAVELLERS have frustrated Radcliffe residents by setting up camp on the old East Lancashire Paper Mill site for the third time in as many years.

Residents spotted the camp being set up in a car park in Church Street East, near the site of the old Papermakers Arms pub, yesterday.

At least 10 caravans can now be seen at the camp on private land which backs onto Brook Street and East Street.

It is believed travellers have moved onto and left these grounds three times in the last three years but they usually only stay for less than a week.

A spokesperson for Greater Manchester Police said they were aware the landowners, CHP Properties, had given the travellers permission to be there.

However a CHP spokesperson categorically denied this was the case and said no permission has been given.

A resident of Brook Street, who did not wish to be named, said the travellers camp has appeared on this site every year for the past three years at around this time.

She said: “If they just stayed, kept quietly to themselves and tidied their rubbish into a skip before they left no one would have a problem with that.

“But they can be violent and abusive and they leave disgusting rubbish.

“Last year after they left we cleaned up and found full nappies, underwear, plates covered in food and human excrement.”

Mark Kilcoyne, chairman of the East Lancashire Paper Mill Cricket Club which uses the land, said: “They appear on this land around every six months or so and in the last few years I have seen them there about three or four times.

“They usually leave within seven days and move onto a disused car park in Ringley Road – I don’t know where they go after that.

“They have never done any damage to the cricket club or caused a nuisance to us.”

CHP Properties, formerly known as P&F Properties, acquired the site in 2007 and proposed a regeneration project including houses, buildings for employment, a new high school and a water feature.

The company has been unable to find a buyer for the site and last May Bury Council’s planning committee voted to extend the time limit on the planning permission to 2016.

A spokesman for Bury Council said: “If the travellers are on council land or are on the site without the landowner's permission, Bury Council can take steps to remove them.”

Comments

That has to be the least accurate 'Generic picture of travellers' that it's possible to imagine.

That has to be the least accurate 'Generic picture of travellers' that it's possible to imagine.I, Ludicrous

That has to be the least accurate 'Generic picture of travellers' that it's possible to imagine.

Score: 18

dominoman
1:31pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Serve the council right for not building the promised school on the site.

Serve the council right for not building the promised school on the site.dominoman

Serve the council right for not building the promised school on the site.

Score: 9

Jim271
2:00pm Mon 10 Mar 14

They will go, if you pay them £1000 otherwise you have to pay a legal firm £3000.

Where do you think they get the money for the weddings from?

They will go, if you pay them £1000 otherwise you have to pay a legal firm £3000.
Where do you think they get the money for the weddings from?Jim271

They will go, if you pay them £1000 otherwise you have to pay a legal firm £3000.

Where do you think they get the money for the weddings from?

Score: 16

buckfeed17
4:39pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Good luck to the local residents

Good luck to the local residentsbuckfeed17

Good luck to the local residents

Score: 9

Beyond News Forum
6:55pm Mon 10 Mar 14

When a car is parked illegally it can be clamped or towed away.

So what is the difference with these people? Just tow the vehicles away, the police CAN get a warrant and should.

These people want respect but they ain't getting any until they stop this kind of illegal activity. They have enough land that is designated for them so why do they not use it?

When a car is parked illegally it can be clamped or towed away.
So what is the difference with these people? Just tow the vehicles away, the police CAN get a warrant and should.
These people want respect but they ain't getting any until they stop this kind of illegal activity. They have enough land that is designated for them so why do they not use it?Beyond News Forum

When a car is parked illegally it can be clamped or towed away.

So what is the difference with these people? Just tow the vehicles away, the police CAN get a warrant and should.

These people want respect but they ain't getting any until they stop this kind of illegal activity. They have enough land that is designated for them so why do they not use it?

Score: 20

Wolfie190
6:58pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Jim271 wrote…

They will go, if you pay them £1000 otherwise you have to pay a legal firm £3000.

Where do you think they get the money for the weddings from?

Mainly from knocking on old peoples doors saying they're from the water board then ransacking their homes or knocking on old peoples doors saying they have damage on the roof quoting £25 to fix it then charging them £3000 even taking them to the bank in their stolen Toyota landcruiser to get the money.

[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote:
They will go, if you pay them £1000 otherwise you have to pay a legal firm £3000.
Where do you think they get the money for the weddings from?[/p][/quote]Mainly from knocking on old peoples doors saying they're from the water board then ransacking their homes or knocking on old peoples doors saying they have damage on the roof quoting £25 to fix it then charging them £3000 even taking them to the bank in their stolen Toyota landcruiser to get the money.Wolfie190

Jim271 wrote…

They will go, if you pay them £1000 otherwise you have to pay a legal firm £3000.

Where do you think they get the money for the weddings from?

Mainly from knocking on old peoples doors saying they're from the water board then ransacking their homes or knocking on old peoples doors saying they have damage on the roof quoting £25 to fix it then charging them £3000 even taking them to the bank in their stolen Toyota landcruiser to get the money.

Score: 15

Citizen Cane
8:47pm Mon 10 Mar 14

These quaint, age old customs need to be cherished and preserved so that future generations can enjoy and experience the cultural diversity and ancient traditions of overpriced tarmac and roofing with menaces and fly-tipping of trash, food waste and excrement. All allegedly of course. That is why BMBC invests in a gypsy liaison officer. Is Bury also enlightened in this manner?

These quaint, age old customs need to be cherished and preserved so that future generations can enjoy and experience the cultural diversity and ancient traditions of overpriced tarmac and roofing with menaces and fly-tipping of trash, food waste and excrement. All allegedly of course. That is why BMBC invests in a gypsy liaison officer. Is Bury also enlightened in this manner?Citizen Cane

These quaint, age old customs need to be cherished and preserved so that future generations can enjoy and experience the cultural diversity and ancient traditions of overpriced tarmac and roofing with menaces and fly-tipping of trash, food waste and excrement. All allegedly of course. That is why BMBC invests in a gypsy liaison officer. Is Bury also enlightened in this manner?

Score: 11

miroku
9:04pm Mon 10 Mar 14

How is it that the councils never pursue these people for fly tipping, when they eventually move on and leave their usual mess.
They have assets in the form of vehicles and caravans which could be seized through court action and sold to pay for the cleanup.

How is it that the councils never pursue these people for fly tipping, when they eventually move on and leave their usual mess.
They have assets in the form of vehicles and caravans which could be seized through court action and sold to pay for the cleanup.miroku

How is it that the councils never pursue these people for fly tipping, when they eventually move on and leave their usual mess.
They have assets in the form of vehicles and caravans which could be seized through court action and sold to pay for the cleanup.

Score: 15

buckfeed17
8:30am Tue 11 Mar 14

miroku wrote…

How is it that the councils never pursue these people for fly tipping, when they eventually move on and leave their usual mess. They have assets in the form of vehicles and caravans which could be seized through court action and sold to pay for the cleanup.

good point

[quote][p][bold]miroku[/bold] wrote:
How is it that the councils never pursue these people for fly tipping, when they eventually move on and leave their usual mess. They have assets in the form of vehicles and caravans which could be seized through court action and sold to pay for the cleanup.[/p][/quote]good pointbuckfeed17

miroku wrote…

How is it that the councils never pursue these people for fly tipping, when they eventually move on and leave their usual mess. They have assets in the form of vehicles and caravans which could be seized through court action and sold to pay for the cleanup.

good point

Score: 7

spartan117
10:56am Tue 11 Mar 14

This might explain the 13 year old boy in High Vis knocking on my door trying to sell me a driveway, who wouldn't take no for an answer or leave until I told him to bugger off (in a polite fashion I might add).

This might explain the 13 year old boy in High Vis knocking on my door trying to sell me a driveway, who wouldn't take no for an answer or leave until I told him to bugger off (in a polite fashion I might add).spartan117

This might explain the 13 year old boy in High Vis knocking on my door trying to sell me a driveway, who wouldn't take no for an answer or leave until I told him to bugger off (in a polite fashion I might add).

Score: 1

Babbar Divino
7:55pm Tue 11 Mar 14

spartan117 wrote…

This might explain the 13 year old boy in High Vis knocking on my door trying to sell me a driveway, who wouldn't take no for an answer or leave until I told him to bugger off (in a polite fashion I might add).

That was the BMBC Gypsy Liason Officer undercover

[quote][p][bold]spartan117[/bold] wrote:
This might explain the 13 year old boy in High Vis knocking on my door trying to sell me a driveway, who wouldn't take no for an answer or leave until I told him to bugger off (in a polite fashion I might add).[/p][/quote]That was the BMBC Gypsy Liason Officer undercoverBabbar Divino

spartan117 wrote…

This might explain the 13 year old boy in High Vis knocking on my door trying to sell me a driveway, who wouldn't take no for an answer or leave until I told him to bugger off (in a polite fashion I might add).

That was the BMBC Gypsy Liason Officer undercover

Score: 5

radcliffelad
10:01am Fri 14 Mar 14

strange, my original comment ( The First to Comment on this ) is not here? but is!. anyway I say run them out of town along with the other undesirables that infest Radcliffe, they are dirty thieving scum. a bonfire would be a good start!.

strange, my original comment ( The First to Comment on this ) is not here? but is!. anyway I say run them out of town along with the other undesirables that infest Radcliffe, they are dirty thieving scum. a bonfire would be a good start!.radcliffelad

strange, my original comment ( The First to Comment on this ) is not here? but is!. anyway I say run them out of town along with the other undesirables that infest Radcliffe, they are dirty thieving scum. a bonfire would be a good start!.

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