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2007 Draft #53 Pick
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No games yet played in 2006/07
Change in team outlook: +9.5 ppg, +4.4 rpg, and +0.3 apg.

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Due to Portland being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Portland had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

two things made me smile after this. celtics getting screwed-up and bulls getting the 9th pick. (anyone got a pic with that crying celtic fan? ) this doesn't make it that hard to swallow for us. big up for portland, if they keep oden (don't know why draft express has durant as the 1st pick) they might just be a playoff contender. They have 4 picks this year some trades might get them on the track.
In other order of ideas, what would it been worse? For us to get the top pick and celtics #2, or vice-versa?

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Originally Posted by rady

two things made me smile after this. celtics getting screwed-up and bulls getting the 9th pick. (anyone got a pic with that crying celtic fan? ) this doesn't make it that hard to swallow for us. big up for portland, if they keep oden (don't know why draft express has durant as the 1st pick) they might just be a playoff contender. They have 4 picks this year some trades might get them on the track.
In other order of ideas, what would it been worse? For us to get the top pick and celtics #2, or vice-versa?

Yeh, the Curry deal doesn't look so bad after all. Celtics got owned after tanking the season, congrats to the Portland franchise, I wish Knicks were in the same position as Portland. The number one 1, 4 second rounders, and a roster loaded with talent and potential.

i don't see why at atlanta would trade for zach randolph for the #3 and some of their guys... the more likely scenarios is randolph to WAS for their first rounder and either Etan Thomas or Brendan Heywood...

A realistic offseason for the Knicks would be the Coach telling all the Knicks young players that if the Knick Veterans dont get their act together and learn how to play with their fellow veteran teammate that he will let the young players play together to build a growth of Team-Play for the future of this Knick Team.

With young players like Nate, Collins, Balkman, Lee, Frye, and Randolph Morris, they have the talent to carry this Knick Team to a much better season than just 33 WINS with some decent playingtime together.

The addition of Randolph Morris talent with Channing Frye and David Lee in the Center/Foward position is great for this Knick Team if Coach Isiah start utilizing just these three players in a regular rotation together. But he wont because of his big million dollar contract investments in Curry, James, Malik, and Jefferies whom gets majority of playingtime. So for the Knicks young Bigmen to bring success to this Knick team two of Isiah big contract bigmen players must be traded for one player (Ron Artest).

Many Knick-Fans has been down on Nate Robinson and Channing Frye for no reason other than Coach Isiah assignment roles for these (two) players this past season.
Knick-Fans commented on Nate's maturity and decision making when not looking at the role Nate been giving to play alongside of Marbury & Francis this season.
The same goes for Channing Frye role with Curry and Q.Rich on the court with him (Curry wants the middle on offense to score and Q.Rich want the middle on defense to rebound leaving Frye no time in the middle at 6.11). It is not hard to see that Marbury, Francis, Q.Rich, Jefferies, and Curry are all HALFCOURT-OFFENSIVE Players without a FASTBREAK running game in their bone. What does this do to fast running players like Nate and Frye who luv to take advantage of oponents that cant keep up with them on both sides of the court? It makes them mentally tired of watching slow veteran one dimensional teammates control the game. All the Knicks young Players should ask to be traded this offseason. When Jefferies was added to the Knicks lineup and rotation it was CHAOS in any system or play the team used in the frontcourt and backcourt. I still cant figure out what Jefferies was doing on the court to help his teammates in anything, but young players Frye & Nate had to put up with Jefferies in the game with them this past season with whatever playingtime they received.

This seems like a long draft so the Knicks second round pick maybe the best option this comming season to play the bench and learn the NBA. <!-- google_ad_section_end --><!-- / message -->

I don't agree at all. First off, Marbury and Francis still have some fastbreak in them...remember folks...30 is not old. And why IT tell his players that he'll play the youngins over the vets when he knows that everyone knows that if he does this then the team is not making the playoffs. Be realistic...if you play all of IT's recents draft picks without feeding major minutes to Marbury, Curry, and Q-Rich...then this team is not making playoffs plain and simple. Again I love our young players, but they arent ready to carry this team to the playoffs. Don't overhype them now...and our overpaid bigmen are not going anywhere. The GM who takes James and his contract will be fired immediately. Other than that I wouldn't mind we trading our draft pick for artest. Our rotation is already set unless we get Almond or possibly Sean Williams. Other than that we're just picking a rookie for the future. Half our roster is composed of IT's draft picks. We already have the youth movement going...its time to get a vet...

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I don't agree at all. First off, Marbury and Francis still have some fastbreak in them...remember folks...30 is not old. And why IT tell his players that he'll play the youngins over the vets when he knows that everyone knows that if he does this then the team is not making the playoffs. Be realistic...if you play all of IT's recents draft picks without feeding major minutes to Marbury, Curry, and Q-Rich...then this team is not making playoffs plain and simple. Again I love our young players, but they arent ready to carry this team to the playoffs. Don't overhype them now...and our overpaid bigmen are not going anywhere. The GM who takes James and his contract will be fired immediately. Other than that I wouldn't mind we trading our draft pick for artest. Our rotation is already set unless we get Almond or possibly Sean Williams. Other than that we're just picking a rookie for the future. Half our roster is composed of IT's draft picks. We already have the youth movement going...its time to get a vet...

Francis garbage.

Marbury is a half court PG, more than a fast break PG.

The young guys on this team aren't ready to contribute, but so are the older guys. James, Francis, Rose, and Cato are all scrubs, whats your point?

Why are you always bashing younger guys but obsessing with older men? Whats wrong with you child.

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Who in this forum has seen Randolph Morris play a single second as a professional basketball player? Sure the guy was good in college and he has size and people think he will be good... but why are we so willing to give up on our 6'11 offensive monster that is Eddy Curry for an unproven rookie? if the goal is the playoffs and a future championship team... then we should hold on to what we have and evaluate it... unless we can find some idiot to take on james, rose and francis' contract without giving us a longer term deal in return...

why is everyone so obsessed with us becoming a fast break team anyway? other than the showtime lakers... name the last fast break team that won a championship... how many fastbreak teams made it out of their conferences this year? the regular season is for running and gunning... but during a seven game series it's the half court team that wins... look at all our finalists since 91...

all these squads were half court teams... if our goal is a championship and not some exciting sell out games at the garden... then we NEED to develop a strong half court team... we have the personel to do that effectively... it's not that we should never run... but that shouldn't be the primary focus of our offense...

i don't care who we draft since we have a track record of making good decisions there

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Insanity, but decent draft overall.

Upsides
Randolph is a talented player, one of the best young PF's in the game today. He can shoot, score in the paint, rebound, and has a tough attitude.

Downsides
- Long heavy contract (Not really much of a problem, atleast Randolph is a productive player unlike Francis, Jefferies, Rose, and James). We could test Randolph out for 2 years, and if we don't like him by then, he'll be a 27-28 PF in his prime with a lot of value still, unlike the following guys I name.
- Defense. Not really of capable being a man defender or help defender. Doesn't address our issues in defense and turnover problems.

Randolph/Curry frontcourt is pretty weak defensively and average 7 turnover game if you combind them.

That leaves me to the question, how will ball be moved? Both of these guys holding on to the ball and scoring on their own, unassisted. I hope it works out, they're both talented enough, they just need to be smart enough. If they do that, no one in the East will **** with our front court.

I thought Isiah did alright, I'm not going to blame him for anything. We got a good shooter from Syracuse who has potential to be an excellent defender at the 3.

I like Chandler (I would of prefered Rudy Fernandez, but its okay). Chandler is well rounded. They said he needs to work on his dribble, and I don't put much into that. Chandler will most likely be doing the dirty work, not asked to create offensive plays for the Knicks. I could see him playing an Ariza role. He interest me, because he has good shooting form, he just needs to set his feet more consistantly; it can get sloppy at times.

With the addition of two SF"s...where does that leave Balkman and Jefferies? If I was Isiah, I would try to deal Jefferies. He no longer has a place on this team. Balkman/Chandler/Demetris is all we need at the SF position.

I'm giving Randolph 2 years, he's been improving each season, hopefully he becomes less selfish in New York. We don't need selfishness with our turnover prone team.

Starting to step your game up on your posts man...good unbiased post. My only problem is why add another post scorer when we still lack a perimeter threat. Nichols is a killer 3pt shooter. I've seen the kid play up at Syracuse. Scoring is not a problem for him. I just hope Q-Rich stays healthy enough and JC steps his shooting game up so we can actually have low posts scorers without having the whole opposing team defending the low post...now that is when TOs will decrease and W's will increase