So far TCE and ETF (fortress) are the only two living TCE total conversions with TC being the most popular total coversion and 6th most popular ET mod overall. There arent any else. There was a WWII realism mod called Price of Peace but was cancelled, another WWII realism mod called Wolfenstein Frontlines but is now AWOL. and a Vietnam war themed shooter called Vietnam Ambush which is also AWOL. Then there is the upcoming Duke Nukem and OTC (modern realism) which ar eboth in production.

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Look below! I just did that much AA in 2 days! I never done that before Coop is fun even when you never win!

Erm..... none? 0? I never really play anything but TC:E when it comes to WET mods (I just followed the project from Quake 3, it didn't really matter WHERE it was moving to, just how it was going to improve).

_________________"Who's chair is that?... who put that G**Damn chair here? It's not my chair. Not my chair not my problem, that's what I say"

AS I USE A LAPTOP PROVIDED MY MY COMPANY I CANOT LITTER IT UP WITH ALOT OF JUNK, UNLIKE MY AW INTHE BASEMENT WHICH HAD JUST ABOUT EVERY MOD I COULD FIND FOR HL, Q3, Q2, CoD, SoF, AND EVEN ROGUE SPEAR. THE LAPTOP A USE I INSTALLED TC:E, ETF, AND I GUESS J-MOD AND WHALE CLIENT FOR WET DONT COUNT.

The problem, though, is that I can't bunnyhop or utilize any of the other advanced movement skills.

The thing is, everyone who plays ETF has played Team Fortress since Quake 1, and you can't even come close to competing unless you can bunnyhop around every map at Mach 1 with your monitor turned off and one hand behind your back.

Plus, there are all sorts of random and arbitrary gentlemen's rules you will be kicked or screamed at for not following. They will not explain them to you either since it's totally unthinkable that someone does not know them.

I tried a little bit of FalckonET/Frontline. It had some severe gameplay issues, and the server browser was broken so you couldn't find the one server with another player on it. Of course, that was a ways back and I have no idea how it is now.

I tried the Vietnam Ambush thing. I don't know if there has been a new release, but they they just swapped in cheesy weapon models and new player models. There was one really weird map too.

The Urban Terror port for ET has been cancelled. There was some talk of making an open source Q3 standalone version, but I think that may have been canned as well. They claim to be doing something with "what they call the MX engine" but I don't pretend to even know what that is.

well that must be a modified Quake based engine. Expect some new standalone quake3 based freeware and GPL games to come out anytime. Infact for college, university projects when your taking the game dev course, using the Quake3 GPL makes sense.