hi i'm Michael, i'm new to this website but i have been doing an experiment for the past week and a half. i have been drinking every night before bed, about 5 strong drinks. enough to get me feeling a buzz but not drunk. i tried this because i have had very drunk night were me lucid dreams are most vivid and I've had others where i don't even remember dreaming, which is rare for me. So i was thinking the perfect amount of alcohol might help? I've had mornings after heavy drinking where i'm borderline sick laying in bed, and have strange dreams that almost happen while i'm awake (don't really know how to explain it). anyways I've been doing this experiment the past 1 1/2 weeks and its been very successful. don't know if its just coincidence or actually working. i have had LDs 4 of the past 5 nights and I've just had really long and vivd normal dreams. anyone know anything about this?

Experiences vary. Based on the few testimonies I've heard, here is my conclusion: If you consume alcohol regularly and your body is more or less accustomed to it, it can make your dreams staggeringly potent and realistic and logical. If your body is not accustomed, your sleep will be thin and formless with few to no dreams.

Again, this is based upon my limited knowledge of the subject. Absolutely in no way should my opinion in the matter be taken seriously.

Interesting question. When I first got into dreaming, I had the impression that alcohol and weed make it less likely that you will dream. Now I can't say much has changed about weed, but a few weeks ago I got smashed and I had very vivid dreams, especially after such a long spell of no dreams at all.

No idea where to begin on the perfect amount to consume though, I would say it is different depending on your body type of course.

Also I think that our capacity to produce powerful dreams is limited, you sorta need good material to boost them and I think there is even some physical/chemical component that limits us from doing it too much.

"There is theoretical abstraction, and then there is true abstraction."

On many occasions, when I have consumed alcohol, I have had vivid dreams which often lead to lucidity. And they often last...

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"Empty cognizance of one taste, suffused with knowing, is your unmistaken nature, the uncontrived original state. when not altering what is, allow it to be as it is, and the awakened state is right now spontaneously present."

If alcohol aids vivid and lucid dreaming, as it apparently does for us and many people out there, let me just stress that there are safer ways to bring about that desired and lucidly perceived hyper-realistic surrealism.

My advive to the novice would be to not rely on alcohol at all. One does not need to be inebriated before bedtime to get the best results. Start your practice autonomously by learning to naturally using the endogenous psychedelic compounds produced by your brain. These are more than enough.

Do not depend on alcohol. If you happen to drink at a party and then find yourself lucid dreaming, fine, enjoy it, but don't make it a regular occurrence for your own sake.

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i have been drinking every night before bed, about 5 strong drinks. enough to get me feeling a buzz but not drunk. i tried this because i have had very drunk night were me lucid dreams are most vivid and I've had others where i don't even remember dreaming, which is rare for me. So i was thinking the perfect amount of alcohol might help?

Sounds a good way to become an alcoholic!! Not only that, we can subconsciously program ourselves into thinking we need aids like this for a LD, which then can make having an LD hard without what we've come to depend on to get one. (this holds for taking any substance at all to have a LD).

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One can do far safer programming then with having to use alcohol for succesful LDs.

it was just an experiment that i did because of my past experience with it. i never drink at home by myself i was seeing what happened. i did it for 7 days and my conclusion is that the perfect drunkness can cause very vivid and sometimes lucid dreams. obviously you shouldn't do it every night and depend on it

It's certainly a good experiment. There is definitely a connection to vivid dreaming which increases that chances of DILDs there.

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