So, I was pretty happy with the Auto Setup results, however, I did make the following changes:

L/R M60's changed them to "Small"Center VP150 changed it to "Small"Questioned the Sub delay of 27.3ft (normal per manual)I manually adjusted all the speakers to 78dB's.

Also, I had previously performed the Subwoofer crawl, and determined the EP500 sounded better dead center below my screen, below my VP150 center. I mounted the VP150 up higher on the wall, so there is about 6 inches of space between that and the EP500. It looks cool anyway. I know most of you said the left corner would be better as it would be further from the opening into the larger room. We'll see, I may put it back in the corner.

Below is the first graph I did with RealTraps. The CD comes with a pink noise track and your supposed to adjust the volume to 70dB's for the test, however, I actually tried it at about 78dB's. Must explain why the overall graph is higher on the chart compared to my second attempt below.

Also, the EP500 was placed near the left corner during this first graph. This may explain the change in some of the dips in the second graph, as I moved the EP500 to the center of the wall below the screen. The microphone was placed on a tripod in the primary listening position.

The graph below is my second attempt today. I adjusted the main volume to 70dB's per the RealTraps instructions. Also, the EP500 is in the center of the screen back wall below the VP150. Don't have a picture of that yet.

Here is my second graph from today. Overall it has the same pattern ups/downs as the first graph. I am concerned about the low dips at around 50hz, 150hz, and 260hz...

Here are a few pictures of the room to give you an idea of what the room looks like. Sorry the pictures aren't the best. The overall room is about 30ft x 30ft with 9ft ceilings. As you can see the Theater area where the speakers sit is set back 6 feet from the main room to make it more private. I'm sure most of my problem stems from the large open room.

Any advice is appreciated from the experts. Overall my sound is great, so maybe I should just enjoy and stop worrying.

Well, Randy, about the only comment on the graphs is that the peak around 38Hz and smaller one around 57Hz appears to be the room mode relative to the 30' dimension. It also appears that the mode wasn't significantly affected by the changed sub position, and if anything the second graph appears to be a bit worse overall.

Possibly, as you inferred, the advice for you and Mark Johnson(he of the room that sucks)should be to add watching the making of room effects to making sausage and laws as being things better off left unseen.

Quote:Possibly, as you inferred, the advice for you and Mark Johnson(he of the room that sucks)should be to add watching the making of room effects to making sausage and laws as being things better off left unseen.

John, I had to reread that sentence about five times before it made sense. I get it now.

Ok Ok. I made a few changes after reading many online articles regarding sub placement. For now I've moved my m60's as close togethor as possible, not to interfere with the 10ft wide screen.

The EP500 is now in the far left corner about 6" From the left wall and 8" from the back wall. The m60's are about 6" from the back wall and exactly the same distance from the left/right walls. Right now they are not toed in at all.

My wife likes country a lot, ok I like it also depending on what we are listening to...Right now we have some Alan Jackson cranked up pretty loud. It sounds unbelievable.

Before that we listened to a Classical CD we bought for our kids when they were babies, "Build you baby's brain". Mozart, Beethovan, Handel, Schubert, Vivaldi, Bach, and others are included on the CD.

Randy, If you set the M60's to large instead of small, without looking at the graph, what is the difference in the sound? If they are your main speakers, excluding the sub-woofer, wouldn't you want them to be set to large?