I did not say it was alright to sodomize a 15 year old boy, that is obviously wrong. But to obtain information that could save many American lives from a MAN by inflicting some pain on him has to be done on occasion.

"But to obtain information that could save many American lives from a MAN by inflicting some pain on him has to be done on occasion."

I dare you to say that to the face of John McCain.

I'm suuuuure those Vietcong who waterboarded him, to obtain information that could save many Vietnamese lives from an American MAN had to be done then, on that occasion, hmmmmmmmm?! (check one):

[ ] Yes. Then you've destroyed your own argument.

[ ] No. Then you've destroyed your own argument.

Choose wisely.

...oh, and as for:

"I did not say it was alright to sodomize a 15 year old boy, that is obviously wrong."

>implying that it is, on the pretence that such vile acts do go on amongst right-wingers, and are - like the Catholic church - brushed under the carpet, glossed over/ignored & generally go unpunished, because putting one's own house in order completely would result in them destroying themselves.