Doomsday Device, I've been developing one that'll spread a disease capable of wiping the human race, I'm just waiting until December 21st 2012, I figure these things are best left in the run up to Christmas.

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“It is difficult to understand the universe if you only study one planet” - Miyamoto MusashiWarning: I occassionally forget to proofread my posts to spot typos or to spot poor editing.

Doomsday Device, I've been developing one that'll spread a disease capable of wiping the human race, I'm just waiting until December 21st 2012, I figure these things are best left in the run up to Christmas.

Hmm, that's great news.Pssst..could you give me the location of your hiding place? Before 21st Dec?

There are species that were doomed anyway. Horses once had 2 dozen species but were dying off. They completely died off in the Americas before humans arrived. The horses have only survived because of their symbiotic relationship with us.

Life on Earth has lucked out on the matter of asteroid strikes. Something's going to get it sooner or later. Our abscence won't save it. Only the conscious part of Earth's life will make any of it survive.

Seems like it's us humans destroying the world. Looks like we may be some sort of a parasite after all.Just asking.

No.Who else would cut the grass? Jeez.

Duh animals of course.

You think a goat's gonna remember to change the direction of the cut every time?They rarely cut in around the edges. But if you think the planet isn't worthy of an even, lush lawn, trimmed bushes, an occasional fresh coat of paint, and timely snow shovelling....

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Religion. It's given people hope in a world torn apart by religion." -- Charlie Chaplin

There are species that were doomed anyway. Horses once had 2 dozen species but were dying off. They completely died off in the Americas before humans arrived. The horses have only survived because of their symbiotic relationship with us.

Life on Earth has lucked out on the matter of asteroid strikes. Something's going to get it sooner or later. Our abscence won't save it. Only the conscious part of Earth's life will make any of it survive.

Most of the species that have ever lived are extinct, and that happened without our involvement.

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Religion. It's given people hope in a world torn apart by religion." -- Charlie Chaplin

Life on Earth has lucked out on the matter of asteroid strikes. Something's going to get it sooner or later. Our abscence won't save it. Only the conscious part of Earth's life will make any of it survive.

Yeah but we never know when or whether it will happen or not? But with humans we know it'll happen.

You think a goat's gonna remember to change the direction of the cut every time?They rarely cut in around the edges. But if you think the planet isn't worthy of an even, lush lawn, trimmed bushes, an occasional fresh coat of paint, and timely snow shovelling....

I don't get it. The world's destroyed and all the concern is cutting the grass? But i guess chimp's will evolve into humans and start doing it.

There were approx 400 million people on the planet in 1492 when Columbus came to the New World. In that time till now we are at around 7 billion. Something has got to give. Maybe Dec. 21st will take care of that.

There have been mass extinctions before; that in itself is nothing new. It definitely doesn't reflect well on our species that we're responsible for eliminating so much biodiversity, not to mention (perhaps) ourselves.

Condoms, the pill, education, people who make a career out of being welfare moms, and ending tax breaks for having kids. Easier access to abortion procedures would help too, as well as mandatory sterilization of people with severe congenital defects and career criminals.

But most importantly, stop the Cult of Pregnancy = good. The simpering glorification of babies as something amazing, special, rare, precious, and wonderful. That the simple act of breeding is some sort of special form of qualification for sainthood, something we must pay homage and deference to. Perhaps if society didn't make it so darn attractive, people would have less children.

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An Omnipowerful God needed to sacrifice himself to himself (but only for a long weekend) in order to avert his own wrath against his own creations who he made in a manner knowing that they weren't going to live up to his standards.

Condoms, the pill, education, people who make a career out of being welfare moms, and ending tax breaks for having kids. Easier access to abortion procedures would help too, as well as mandatory sterilization of people with severe congenital defects and career criminals.

But most importantly, stop the Cult of Pregnancy = good. The simpering glorification of babies as something amazing, special, rare, precious, and wonderful. That the simple act of breeding is some sort of special form of qualification for sainthood, something we must pay homage and deference to. Perhaps if society didn't make it so darn attractive, people would have less children.

The US birth rate is not very high at around 2 kids per woman--not as low as Europe but nowhere near as high as India, Latin America or Africa. Increasing numbers of US-born couples are imitating Europeans by having no children at all. Very few people think that raising a large family on welfare payments is an attractive lifestyle, and poor people are not the huge consumers of the planet's resources.

Large families are just not viable in urban industrial societies where everything costs money and kids stay dependent into their 20's. People have lots of kids in places where babies die a lot, kids bring in income, women have few rights and people must support their elderly parents in the absence of old age benefits.

Worldwide, people voluntarily have fewer children when they have good social welfare policies, so they don't feel the need to have many kids to ensure basic survival.

People need assurance that they won't fall into utter poverty, a guarantee that their kids will survive infancy, and security for their old age. Opportunities for women and girls other than raising the next generation is also important. Then people can have one or two kids instead of 6-8.

A stopgap social policy (that can not be implemented for obvious reasons) would be for every first world person to adopt two kids from a poor country instead of having their own. Then the poor family would know that at least two of their kids would survive, and the first world people could have their cute babies.

But even that would only be a temporary solution, because adding more people to the first world will destroy the planet even faster. The most reasonable thing would be for first world people to help support kids in the third world so that they can stay in their low-consuming countries.

The world is a lump of rock. It doesn't care what is on its surface. In these terms, 'better' is meaningless.

It's like all the people who say 'Save the Planet'. The planet couldn't give a crap about if there are lush forests or barren deserts and lakes of lava running all over it. What they actually mean is 'Save Humanity.' But of course, that doesn't sound as catchy.

The world is a lump of rock. It doesn't care what is on its surface. In these terms, 'better' is meaningless.

It's like all the people who say 'Save the Planet'. The planet couldn't give a crap about if there are lush forests or barren deserts and lakes of lava running all over it. What they actually mean is 'Save Humanity.' But of course, that doesn't sound as catchy.

Well it does, except for it has been co-opted by the anti-choice crowd.

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An Omnipowerful God needed to sacrifice himself to himself (but only for a long weekend) in order to avert his own wrath against his own creations who he made in a manner knowing that they weren't going to live up to his standards.

There's no way to tell. If humans hadn't been around presumably, as is the way of evolution, some other species would have risen to the top of the food chain. They would developed their own societies with their own problems. For all we know things might have been worse.

Remember for there to be no humans there would have to be no mammals at all. So what non-mammal species could have evolved to where we are today?

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"Atheism is not a mission to convert the world. It only seems that way because when other religions fall away, atheism is what is left behind".