He, like a certain conservative, is a contrarian. However, unlike said certain conservative, he's simply not very good at it.

If you believe that I'm a conservative, then you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

Do you even have a basic understanding of the English language?

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What's with Chick Fil A creating these fake FaceBook profiles and posting "heartwarming" stories about what their local CFA did while they were there? And why do my "friends" on FaceBook keep falling for this ****?

Executives agreed in recent meetings to stop funding groups opposed to same-*** unions, including Focus on the Family and the National Organization for Marriage, according to Chicago Alderman Proco Joe Moreno. [...] A report from LGBT advocacy group Equality Matters found that from 2003 to 2009, Chick-fil-A donated more than $3 million to Christian groups that oppose homosexuality. In 2010, the fast-food company gave nearly $2 million to such causes, according to the report.

But on Wednesday, Moreno said the chain sent him a letter saying that its nonprofit WinShape Foundations arm “is now taking a much closer look at the organizations it considers helping, and in that process, will remain true to its stated philosophy of not supporting organizations with political agendas.” Moreno wouldn’t release the full contents of the letter.

Chick-fil-A also agreed to amend an official company document to reflect that its “intent is not to engage in political or social debates,” Moreno said.

Executives agreed in recent meetings to stop funding groups opposed to same-*** unions, including Focus on the Family and the National Organization for Marriage, according to Chicago Alderman Proco Joe Moreno. [...] A report from LGBT advocacy group Equality Matters found that from 2003 to 2009, Chick-fil-A donated more than $3 million to Christian groups that oppose homosexuality. In 2010, the fast-food company gave nearly $2 million to such causes, according to the report.

But on Wednesday, Moreno said the chain sent him a letter saying that its nonprofit WinShape Foundations arm “is now taking a much closer look at the organizations it considers helping, and in that process, will remain true to its stated philosophy of not supporting organizations with political agendas.” Moreno wouldn’t release the full contents of the letter.

Chick-fil-A also agreed to amend an official company document to reflect that its “intent is not to engage in political or social debates,” Moreno said.

Sounds like the Chicago Alderman found a way to save face for himself without publicly having to back out of a position that would end out being a violation of the 1st amendment. Good for him, I suppose.

Sure, the way was for CFA to stop donating $5 million to those causes.

I agree -- Good for him!

Except it appears to be exactly what I stated above. Shocking that a politician who's stuck his neck out might have a need to fudge the facts in order to weasel out of the untenable position he's taken on this issue.

Just to clarify, it looks like the Alderman is interpreting statements about workplace discrimination (which CFA has never engaged in) to mean that CFA will not engage in donations to groups opposed to *** marriage. I personally suspect he's doing this deliberately to save face, and it's why my initial assumption was that this was precisely what had happened when I read the first linked article. The lack of any actual quote from CFA was the first clue.

Sounds more like backpedaling from an angry conservative base to me. "No, no! We NEVER said THAT!..."

CFA CEO wrote:

Because of this commitment, Chick-fil-A’s giving heritage is focused on programs that educate youth, strengthen families and enrich marriages, and support communities. We will continue to focus our giving in those areas. Our intent is not to support political or social agendas

i.e., trying to play up the center by covering his "We won't do that" letter while hinting that they still might do that to the angry conservatives. Notice how he never explicitly says they'll be funding anti-SSM causes.

Sounds more like backpedaling from an angry conservative base to me. "No, no! We NEVER said THAT!..."

Except that in this case, they actually did never say that. Unless you're arguing that there's some on paper agreement by CFA stating that as a term of condition for opening new stores in the Chicago area, they have agreed to cease donating to any organizations on some list the Alderman has, and have required that none of their executives donate to those organizations either?

Because that was what created the whole mess in the first place. So unless said Alderman got an agreement from CFA to not do the exact things that they were doing which caused them to threaten to not allow them to operate in Chicago, then it's absolutely ridiculous for said Alderman to claim he got such an agreement.

Did he? I haven't seen it. Have you? Has anyone? All I've seen is some vaguely worded statements from the Alderman suggesting this. Look at the actual quotes from him, not the statements surrounding it in the article(s). It's pure spin and cover. And I can only assume he hoped that no one (except his liberal supporters) would notice or care. But those same liberals couldn't keep their mouths shut, and went around jumping up and down declaring some kind of victory, and CFA went "Huh? We didn't promise anything like that".

So now we're back to square one. Said Alderman's stupid lie has blown up in his face and he's working double time to spin it even more. At the end of the day though, unless there's something on paper supporting his claim, then he was the one making stuff up. Given that such an agreement would be a potential violation of the first amendment, it seems particularly absurd that it actually exists anywhere but in the Alderman's crazed imagination.