Who can and cannot be a dual national, as well as the joys and frustrations accompanying that status. Includes ROC Passport and Military Conscription issues

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Article 11 of the enforcement rules of the Overseas Chinese Affairs Commission (OCAC) reads as follows:

“Document of proof of Chinese ethnicity” referred to in the Act means a document of proof of foreign identity that states nationality or ethnicity of the holder as Chinese, or a certificate of Chinese ethnicity issued by the Overseas embassy and consulate, representative office, office or other agency authorized by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (hereinafter referred to as “Overseas Misson”).

I would like to apply for a "certificate of Chinese ethnicity," but have no official documents stating my ethnicity to be Chinese. Could I apply for such a document in Taiwan, or would I have to wait until I can do it from abroad? And what is their working definition of "ethnic Chinese"? (That is, what specific criteria would I have to prove?) And what sort of evidence would these offices regard as persuasive? (They don't just go by looks, do they?)

“What part of a woman is the yet, anyway? I heard there was a fight here in Tulsa, and a woman was shot in the fracas. The doc said the bullet is in her yet. And how did the bullet get in her yet, when she was shot in the fracas?"

Dunno if you can apply here. What I've been told is that the line has to be paternal -you must be Chinese on your father's side- and maximum 6 generations ago. The study on the records takes a while.

Lo urgente no deja tiempo para lo importante. Mafalda.

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Eat the delicious food. Walk in the sunshine. Jump in the ocean. Say the truth that you’re carrying in your heart like hidden treasure. Be silly. Be kind. Be weird. There’s no time for anything else.

What records? And on what basis would they judge the Chinese ethnicity of the father?

“What part of a woman is the yet, anyway? I heard there was a fight here in Tulsa, and a woman was shot in the fracas. The doc said the bullet is in her yet. And how did the bullet get in her yet, when she was shot in the fracas?"

For example, our family dates to some poor soul who thought he was going to the US and landed in Panama. So when the request was put, apparently they checked some records going all the way back to Canton. My family put the request in the local Overseas Compatriot office, they do the checking. You could have some documentation -pictures, proof of marriage with the names of teh people involved, property deeds- that help establish you are a descendant of so and so.

Lo urgente no deja tiempo para lo importante. Mafalda.

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Eat the delicious food. Walk in the sunshine. Jump in the ocean. Say the truth that you’re carrying in your heart like hidden treasure. Be silly. Be kind. Be weird. There’s no time for anything else.

Icon wrote:For example, our family dates to some poor soul who thought he was going to the US and landed in Panama. So when the request was put, apparently they checked some records going all the way back to Canton. My family put the request in the local Overseas Compatriot office, they do the checking. You could have some documentation -pictures, proof of marriage with the names of teh people involved, property deeds- that help establish you are a descendant of so and so.

I'm gonna be honest, Icon, I had no idea you were part Chinese. It just doesn't meet my mental impression of you.

OK, seriously now, in another thread someone got sent to OCAC here in Taipei, not local office. Have they -sigh- changed the procedures? Probably with all the cuts in budget, there are not that many overseas OCAC offices anymore.

Lo urgente no deja tiempo para lo importante. Mafalda.

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Eat the delicious food. Walk in the sunshine. Jump in the ocean. Say the truth that you’re carrying in your heart like hidden treasure. Be silly. Be kind. Be weird. There’s no time for anything else.

Icon wrote:OK, seriously now, in another thread someone got sent to OCAC here in Taipei, not local office. Have they -sigh- changed the procedures? Probably with all the cuts in budget, there are not that many overseas OCAC offices anymore.

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