The SNU and the way in which they are treating other human beings. I often wonder, if they're capable of doing what they do to people, then how do they treat their animals. I am so tired of trying to stay positive and toeing the party line, when all they do is cause hostility through their actions, and when challenged, deny that they have the problem. The blame is always reflected back at you.

My pet theory is that once a movement reaches a certain size, it needs to bring in a layer of administration from outside to keep functioning, which is more concerned with paying the bills than following the principles of the movement.

That's a bit too simplistic to apply to the SNU, but it does make we wonder why they are much more concerned with the finance side of things now, instead of balancing it with the compassionate non-materialistic ideals of spiritualism.

I should add that I live in Australia and have no direct connection with the SNU, and can only comment from what I've observed in various forums such as this one.

Welcome to the forum. It does appear the SNU hierachy are dealing with situations that arise with something less than an open and fair approach, however, it is difficult to know what is really motivating their actions or what may be their rationale for acting - largely because their decision making seems so unaccountable to the membership.

It is not easy to know how best to alter the situation. To attend the upcoming AGM may be an option. Other options may be available - including just walking away from the SNU - which though in principle is not what one would want to see happening - might be the only thing that ultimately conveys to those in power that their conduct is not supported.

I sympathise with your distress and sense of disillusionment. If I was a current member of the SNU I would be very tempted to cancel my membership, but then again, if I was a member I suspect they would throw me out given I have been prepared to speak out about some of the things that have happened!

I like your name and piccy very appropriate today. You must have brouht this sunshine with you. Thank you.I was going to AGM but thought of better things to do with the money. Didn't renew individual membership but have kept up SNUi membership. It's only twenty quid and you get all the discounts but none of the BS. Ex SNU by dint of moving house really old church was SNU we moved from Lancs to Leics and church I joined here had voted and left SNU. Leicester Progressive,we're online. Much nicer atmosphere no body bothers about what SNU idiocy will be in PN this fortnight.Kindred souls on here in the main. Far fewer 'well poisoners' than you find on SNU committees region or nationally. You'll soon spot em.