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not trying to be a dick here, but there's really no point in obsessing over symptoms if you're improving....and still on fin. Plenty of worried people have come on these forums only to have a perfectly normal recovery within weeks. If you get PFS you'll know.... trust me. Just finish your taper, be healthy and you'll probably be fine

not trying to be a dick here, but there's really no point in obsessing over symptoms if you're improving....and still on fin. Plenty of worried people have come on these forums only to have a perfectly normal recovery within weeks. If you get PFS you'll know.... trust me. Just finish your taper, be healthy and you'll probably be fine

Today it has been weird.My anhedonia flared up big time and the burst of libido that i got lowered severely through the day. Im experincing some pretty intense head preasure also along with headaches. Today i got to a 5 day mark without fin and took 0.07 at 12 pm.
I think i might be close to crashing.

Today it has been weird.My anhedonia flared up big time and the burst of libido that i got lowered severely through the day. Im experincing some pretty intense head preasure also along with headaches. Today i got to a 5 day mark without fin and took 0.07 at 12 pm.
I think i might be close to crashing.

meditate a lot and don't stress about it. I think most people being aware of pfs is what delved them into the crash. It often takes about 2 months to fully rid yourself of symptoms and sometimes it comes and goes. Don't freak yourself out over it. just do the majority of what you can on total male optimization and nurture yourself. I think that if most guys destressed and didn't fear crashing they might not have. The week before I crashed I was freaking out over crashing. I feel like if I really chilled the fuck out I might've been okay.

My libido seems to be still up alongside my boners, I even masturbated today in the morning. I'm somewhat worried of all my mental side effects getting worse and spiraling into a crash. I ask myself sometimes If I'm overreacting or if I'm really suffering from PFS, hopefully not the latter. I know you guys have told me to chill out a little bit, that probably all is going to be fine but my latest bloodwork was not really flattering in that regard and as i'm telling you, my mental sides are not really good at the moment.
My headeaches are still on the run, which is a pain in the ass and the thought of them being related to a GABA imbalance or a Neurosteroidal fuck up scares me to no end.
Also, I really don't know how I'm going to make it out of this if my country doesn't have the supplements i'm looking for and retains the supplements I order from overseas on customs.

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Originally Posted by jacknap

meditate a lot and don't stress about it. I think most people being aware of pfs is what delved them into the crash. It often takes about 2 months to fully rid yourself of symptoms and sometimes it comes and goes. Don't freak yourself out over it. just do the majority of what you can on total male optimization and nurture yourself. I think that if most guys destressed and didn't fear crashing they might not have. The week before I crashed I was freaking out over crashing. I feel like if I really chilled the fuck out I might've been okay.

I'm really trying Jack, but things are just so fucking grimm right now.
In the best case scenario, I get out of this scratchless and in the worse case scenario i get stuck with pfs in a country where trying to get supplementation is almost impossible.

My libido seems to be still up alongside my boners, I even masturbated today in the morning. I'm somewhat worried of all my mental side effects getting worse and spiraling into a crash. I ask myself sometimes If I'm overreacting or if I'm really suffering from PFS, hopefully not the latter. I know you guys have told me to chill out a little bit, that probably all is going to be fine but my latest bloodwork was not really flattering in that regard and as i'm telling you, my mental sides are not really good at the moment.
My headeaches are still on the run, which is a pain in the ass and the thought of them being related to a GABA imbalance or a Neurosteroidal fuck up scares me to no end.
Also, I really don't know how I'm going to make it out of this if my country doesn't have the supplements i'm looking for and retains the supplements I order from overseas on customs.

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I'm really trying Jack, but things are just so fucking grimm right now.
In the best case scenario, I get out of this scratchless and in the worse case scenario i get stuck with pfs in a country where trying to get supplementation is almost impossible.

stop masturbating and checking your dick. get your mind busy with other things.

give your sexual system a rest. orgasm/porn/masturbation jacks up dopamine/prolactin etc. not what you need right now. do the 100 other things that won't compromise your return to baseline.

stop masturbating and checking your dick. get your mind busy with other things.

give your sexual system a rest. orgasm/porn/masturbation jacks up dopamine/prolactin etc. not what you need right now. do the 100 other things that won't compromise your return to baseline.

plus one.

seriously OP, its hard for you to shift your mindset, but trust me when I say that you will look back in the future and wish you took this advice. we all went through it, just save yourself the trouble, and enjoy the ride lol

I must inform to you fellas that I have officially crashed. It feels terrible. My symptoms of anhedonia have really kicked in to a big extent, feeling like a zombie right now. I've been trying to explain to my parents what exactly has been going on in regards to this condition and today they have finally believed me, mainly because I explained to them what's this condition really about, plus I got in contact with a PFS sufferer who explained to my Dad on call this whole messy situation.

Thank god i arranged all this to happen. This wednesday we went to a "doctor" who apparently has treated PFS beforehand and the only things he prescribed was fluvoxamine, lamotrigine, L acetylcarnitine and some vitamin shots. He was a psychiatrist.
Even tho my parents support me in all of this, I have this fervient desire of ending my life right now. I feel so guilty on letting my vanity overshadow more important aspects of my life. Now I'm a living potato, who struggles to even speak.
I don't want to sound like the avarege propecia help user, but fuck man.....this is rough.
I've been wondering several times if there's a hell or a heaven. Technically speaking, I would be wrong in killing myself if you take into account the great luck that I was given, the great fact that I was born a Human being and not a tiny insect. A creature with a lot of potential. But at the same time, maybe I deserve to die. Maybe things were just not meant to be, or maybe they were, but due to my ignorance, i didn't follow the right things.

I have lost into a great extent the greatest gift human beings have: Language.
Aside of my family, which has been pathological in the past in many ways, I don't have many friends or contacts. Years and years of using omegle as a substitute for real human contact and warmth has left me, in many ways, friendless.
I just have one friend left. A friend who I've known since I was 5 years old. We have a lot of things in common, of course, but now that I'm just a shell of my old self, I don't know how to connect with him or even people anymore.
All that my focus goes to right now is PFS related. Even If i wanted to unwind a little bit, my anhedonia unables me to watch a movie fully or to just enjoy music.
All my interests and passions are gone. The rampant interest that I felt everytime i discovered something new or had an interesting conversation with a stranger is long gone.
Before my father talked to the guy which I said before, he had told me that If i had a crash he would send me to a psych ward. Yeah.

I'm not even sure if I'm worthy to recover, if i have the necessary personality traits to overcome this. I've seen a lot of recoveries on this site and all of them, aside of the protocols they followed, seem like admirable people: Marines, Businessmen, Men with families or even avarege joes with a job. I'm neither of those things. I'm just a guy from South america that graduated at 19 from Highschool via Nightschool. Someone who has never been intimate with someone before. Someone that doesn't have enough good memories on his mind to recall for this bad times that are happening.
The slight thought of me becoming corrupted by this Syndrome and being transformed into just a shell of my old self haunts me to no end.
Post finasteride syndrome in a way is really similar to Kafkas metamorphosis.

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Originally Posted by wetaka

I must inform to you fellas that I have officially crashed. It feels terrible. My symptoms of anhedonia have really kicked in to a big extent, feeling like a zombie right now. I've been trying to explain to my parents what exactly has been going on in regards to this condition and today they have finally believed me, mainly because I explained to them what's this condition really about, plus I got in contact with a PFS sufferer who explained to my Dad on call this whole messy situation.

Thank god i arranged all this to happen. This wednesday we went to a "doctor" who apparently has treated PFS beforehand and the only things he prescribed was fluvoxamine, lamotrigine, L acetylcarnitine and some vitamin shots. He was a psychiatrist.
Even tho my parents support me in all of this, I have this fervient desire of ending my life right now. I feel so guilty on letting my vanity overshadow more important aspects of my life. Now I'm a living potato, who struggles to even speak.
I don't want to sound like the avarege propecia help user, but fuck man.....this is rough.
I've been wondering several times if there's a hell or a heaven. Technically speaking, I would be wrong in killing myself if you take into account the great luck that I was given, the great fact that I was born a Human being and not a tiny insect. A creature with a lot of potential. But at the same time, maybe I deserve to die. Maybe things were just not meant to be, or maybe they were, but due to my ignorance, i didn't follow the right things.

I have lost into a great extent the greatest gift human beings have: Language.
Aside of my family, which has been pathological in the past in many ways, I don't have many friends or contacts. Years and years of using omegle as a substitute for real human contact and warmth has left me, in many ways, friendless.
I just have one friend left. A friend who I've known since I was 5 years old. We have a lot of things in common, of course, but now that I'm just a shell of my old self, I don't know how to connect with him or even people anymore.
All that my focus goes to right now is PFS related. Even If i wanted to unwind a little bit, my anhedonia unables me to watch a movie fully or to just enjoy music.
All my interests and passions are gone. The rampant interest that I felt everytime i discovered something new or had an interesting conversation with a stranger is long gone.
Before my father talked to the guy which I said before, he had told me that If i had a crash he would send me to a psych ward. Yeah.

I'm not even sure if I'm worthy to recover, if i have the necessary personality traits to overcome this. I've seen a lot of recoveries on this site and all of them, aside of the protocols they followed, seem like admirable people: Marines, Businessmen, Men with families or even avarege joes with a job. I'm neither of those things. I'm just a guy from South america that graduated at 19 from Highschool via Nightschool. Someone who has never been intimate with someone before. Someone that doesn't have enough good memories on his mind to recall for this bad times that are happening.
The slight thought of me becoming corrupted by this Syndrome and being transformed into just a shell of my old self haunts me to no end.
Post finasteride syndrome in a way is really similar to Kafkas metamorphosis.

First off, we all know where your are. It is devastating...

But you need to shift your mind & be grateful that you have the information needed to recover. That alone is big & very overlooked in the PFS community..There are guys who have had this condition for a decade before even finding out what was really wrong with them, imagine that. Imagine crashing in 1999 or something. Iíll tell you right now if this happened to me during those days Iíd be dead, feeling like how I did with no direction, no way I couldíve pushed through all those years like that .. I hate to admit it, cause I like to think of myself as pretty strong minded.

The cold hard truth is that you have no choice but to start the protocol, & living in regret is the easy thing to do, but it does NOTHING..Just dive in 100%, you have nothing to lose , everything to gain.. this is how I thought when I first crashed. I knew that for like 6 months I had to cut everyone off & separate myself just to get to the point where itís livable.

& donít be afraid of uncomfortable moments in the journey, easier said than done but try your best to just embrace all the ebbs & flows.

& dude your around my age, Time is on our side.. Iím using this time to get better of course but also get better financially & find a way to get my own place. My life does not stop cause of this...Use the time as best as possible. & donít make PFS this big thing that runs a dark cloud over you.., it sucks..but itís something that can be overcome. Its simply the protocol done consistently over time without wavering.... I get it.. itís just that when your going through the stuff and not feeling optimal, it feels like itís forever. Many guys cure themselves less than 5 years.. 5 years seems long but itís a blip in the grand scheme of things.. & Iím being very very pessimistic in saying 5 years, the difficult cases on this regimen seem to cure themselves in 2.5-3 years..

Scientifically speaking the program hits every bodily system.. herbs, diet, & supplements are giving your body all the nutrients it needs to heal while limiting allergies and inflammation (you still will go through the symptoms though).. the T boosting herbs also help with the gut, liver, adrenals etc.. the benefits of exercising we all know.. cold showers do a ton of things.. meditation puts you at a less stressed state that aids in healing ... then with all these coming together, prohormones speed up the healing process, same way an athlete would use steroids to heal from an injury faster.. & still this whole thing takes long.. you gotta accept it and just get to work ASAP..

& lastly, I and others can tell you everything but this is something that you just have to experience yourself to truly understand & figure out how to navigate through.. CD told me at first not to worry & if you look at plenty of my old messages I still ended up worrying & crying here like a bitch, & I still might in the future who knows.. the key is that you just can never get off protocol or do anything stupid like drink or do drugs.. keep on stepping. One foot after the other

But you need to shift your mind & be grateful that you have the information needed to recover. That alone is big & very overlooked in the PFS community..There are guys who have had this condition for a decade before even finding out what was really wrong with them, imagine that. Imagine crashing in 1999 or something. I’ll tell you right now if this happened to me during those days I’d be dead, feeling like how I did with no direction, no way I could’ve pushed through all those years like that .. I hate to admit it, cause I like to think of myself as pretty strong minded.

The cold hard truth is that you have no choice but to start the protocol, & living in regret is the easy thing to do, but it does NOTHING..Just dive in 100%, you have nothing to lose , everything to gain.. this is how I thought when I first crashed. I knew that for like 6 months I had to cut everyone off & separate myself just to get to the point where it’s livable.

& don’t be afraid of uncomfortable moments in the journey, easier said than done but try your best to just embrace all the ebbs & flows.

& dude your around my age, Time is on our side.. I’m using this time to get better of course but also get better financially & find a way to get my own place. My life does not stop cause of this...Use the time as best as possible. & don’t make PFS this big thing that runs a dark cloud over you.., it sucks..but it’s something that can be overcome. Its simply the protocol done consistently over time without wavering.... I get it.. it’s just that when your going through the stuff and not feeling optimal, it feels like it’s forever. Many guys cure themselves less than 5 years.. 5 years seems long but it’s a blip in the grand scheme of things.. & I’m being very very pessimistic in saying 5 years, the difficult cases on this regimen seem to cure themselves in 2.5-3 years..

Scientifically speaking the program hits every bodily system.. herbs, diet, & supplements are giving your body all the nutrients it needs to heal while limiting allergies and inflammation (you still will go through the symptoms though).. the T boosting herbs also help with the gut, liver, adrenals etc.. the benefits of exercising we all know.. cold showers do a ton of things.. meditation puts you at a less stressed state that aids in healing ... then with all these coming together, prohormones speed up the healing process, same way an athlete would use steroids to heal from an injury faster.. & still this whole thing takes long.. you gotta accept it and just get to work ASAP..

& lastly, I and others can tell you everything but this is something that you just have to experience yourself to truly understand & figure out how to navigate through.. CD told me at first not to worry & if you look at plenty of my old messages I still ended up worrying & crying here like a bitch, & I still might in the future who knows.. the key is that you just can never get off protocol or do anything stupid like drink or do drugs.. keep on stepping. One foot after the other

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I guess this will be a really dificult road......
I'm grateful for the information that has been layed down here, but at the same time, it fills me with frustration the fact that I live in a place where I don't know If i'll be able to get all the supplementation needed for my recovery. It's just a matter of waiting for things to come into play, in regards of that specific tool that is called supplements.
One big thing which I'm really afraid of is loosing my IQ in a way, develop into this souless and retarded blob of a man.
In this couple of day it seems like if i have lost 20-30 points of my IQ. Finasteride sure is an effay biological weapon, lol.
It really unsettles me the fact that most of my raw potential and abilities before finasteride might be lost.
Since my crash it almost seems like I repeat myself all the time and struggle to find words. Not to mention the fact that I can't unwind myself by watching movies,series or any form of entretainment.
One of the things that i had learned was to be at peace by being alone and now I can't even do that.
Thank you for your support rick.

Just had a fight with my father. He is deaf from one ear, so he uses a hearing aid device. He noticed i wasn't able to fall asleep and he started shouting at me for minutes on end without wanting to put his hearing aid on.
Everytime i tried to say something, which is pretty hard for me at the moment, he constantly interrupted as he was shouting and kicking the things in the room.

The coexistence with my father has been always shitty, but now because of the fact that I have trouble putting words together, is getting straight up abusive. I think this will harm greatly my recovery, but i don't have nowhere else to go. I wish this wasn't the case.
It's been two days in a row with this issue, in regards of sleep. Do you guys have some supplements, ways or medication that could help me out a bit with this Insomnia that's kicking in?
Also, I don't know what exactly is this that's happening, but my face, specifically my chin, is getting really numb out of nowhere. What exactly is this feeling?