Now maybe you can understand my intial posting requesting Dr. Gartner to indicate in his listing whether or not he ACTUALLY has an opening in his group or not.

As mentionted by other people in postings as this same topic there are very few groups for sexually abused men so there is a lot of dissapointment. So if the Dr. indicates there is an opening then it makes sense to call to give it a shot, if not then the person can go elsewhere. THis should be done by ALL the people who advertise therapy in this website for all states unless they are willing to talk to you for awhile whether they have an opening or not. Maybe that is it, all the therapists want you to call whether they have openings for groups or not they may want to help you on the phone.

I
agree that my access and use of the MaleSurvivor discussion forums and
chat room is subject to the terms of this Agreement. AND the sole
discretion of MaleSurvivor. I agree that my use of MaleSurvivor
resources are AT-WILL,
and that my posting privileges may be terminated at any time, and for
any reason by MaleSurvivor.