it was pointed out to me that -- which i had heard was meant to be an intersectional version of the trans flag that emphasized trans PoC -- has been used in the past by gender essentialist people to exclude those whom the white bar in was supposed to represent ("those who are intersex, transitioning or consider themselves having a neutral or undefined gender")

so my question for trans people of color is this: what do you think? i haven't seen this symbol used much but y'all are the ones who should have the final say since it's ultimately a symbol meant to represent you and make your identities more visible

there was a proposal to design some new emoji a la the intersectional pride flag ( ) but i don't want to move forward on that without including y'all

(note: please if you're not trans or not a PoC, this is their decision to make. the only reason i'm involving myself in this is because i have the responsibility to curate emoji that best represent the people who use this instance)

trans PoC: if you want to help with the decision making and design of this, you'll be compensated for your time

@chr I know I aint in the instance anymore but I am both of those and my take is: I think the intersectional heart is better as a general thing, bc as ppl seem to have pointed out the Black Bar Trans Flag could be misconstrued whereas the heart is a lot clearer

@chr ah I see. (I was really only asking about the last part—I'm familiar with the black stripe pride flag!) I suppose anything that removes the white stripe could be read that way whether it's a popular usage or not...

@chr@cryptosphinx it's just some terf shit i saw last week that i remembered when i saw someone talking about a trans flag with a black stripe (but a mastodon bug meant i wasn't seeing the original image)

i believe the terf/truscum one has a snakey winged staff emblem on it, i don't think it's related to the raquel willis flag (which is the one actually being discussed afaik)

@chr I'm not intersex but I am agender. I'm also not a person of colour and I only use cybre.space sometimes. My feelings are that I feel quite not-good about the white stripe being removed. I totally understand that I don't check many of the boxes though!

@chrP sure that the logic used to say that we need white to be centered because white is the nb colour is white nbs not accepting that black can be an intersectional colour in this case. I would hope other white people would care enough about the issue of whiteness being centered in our community enough to want to not have our flag literally say so and have more of a discussion than 'anti racist change is anti nb'. Tbqh I see it as racist to say that centering poc is transphobic

@chrA lot of white trans people seriously believe that poc are less trans inclusive, they justify their racism of men of colour particularly because of their anecdotal experience and use it to support state racism (I've seen this problem with Germans to Arabs, and in the usa). I think that when trans activists resist intersectional icons that aren't just for white people (esp if they flat out reject the idea) I'm sceptical that they even give a shit abt intersectionality