Jay Z has been called many things over the years, but “a kook” may be a new one. Recently, Jay held his second Made In America festival in Philadelphia, and one of the bands who performed, Queens Of The Stone Age, apparently wasn’t too happy with the experience. In a recent interview, QOTSA frontman Josh Homme had some things to say about Jay. It’s not quite “Ether,” but it’s something.

As Pitchfork points out, Homme discussed the festival’s treatment of bands in an interview on CBC Radio 2: “The guy’s a kook, you know. He has security frisking bands on the way in. I just told him, ‘If you open up my bag, we’re not playing. So I guess it’s up to you to have to decide whether we’re playing or not.’… You shouldn’t frisk my guys, you should fuck off.”

Homme also says that Jay gave the band a bottle of his champagne and asked him to pose for a picture with them: “I was like, ‘That’s not a gift– that’s a marketing tool.’ I destroyed it, ’cause I thought it was rude overall.”

As to the frisking thing, it makes sense that Homme didn’t like it and hasn’t gone through it, but I can pretty much guarantee you that Jay’s had to be frisked before playing a few shows. And I doubt that Jay’s intimately involved in planning every aspect of his festival; the frisking and champagne things seem like the very definition of underling business.

You can watch him make some of these comments, and listen to the full interview, below.