"Due to the serious geographical situation, we are unable to build any more structures on the current site," says the abbey's web site.
"This limits the amount of space we have for our new vocations as well as our priests. Many of our brothers currently live in satellite locations (Costa
Mesa, San Pedro, etc.); one of the primary reasons for this is lack of space. In the next four years, we will no longer have space for new seminarians -
think there's a priest shortage now? Wait until we can no longer provide one to three new priests per year!"

A 1998 landslide damaged the preparatory school, say the Norbertines, which is when they discovered "the geological instability of the entire landmass
was discovered," and experts told them "the current site could not be stabilized without moving the entire community off site for an extended
duration. This effectively meant the community and school needed to seek another site."

The parish staffed by them in Norwalk has the extraordinary Rite every sunday, I think 6AM, filled to the gills from what I understand with mostly young latino
families in attendance according to a friend. If true it dampens the myth created by our Ordinary, that it is just for old wealthy white ladies.

I know you are best advised not to say anything of this nature, but your "beloved" Ordinary suffers from the disease of believing his own press
releases. As far as I have been able to tell the average age at Extraordinary Rite Mass is similar to, if not lower than that of the Ordinary Rite. The
Tridentine Mass community also has tremendous vitality and includes many of the most commited and faithful Catholics. If I were the Abp of La-La-land I would
be pushing the EO not trying to pretend its the "Granny Mass."

BTW, I hope some future Sovereign Pontiff deep sixes the NOM and replaces it with the English Missal minus the Proddy bits. Benedict XVI is doing a wonderful
job, but we have to pray that his successors continue his work.

My observations about the Extraordinary Rite, both those in communion with the Holy See, and those among the SSPX and other "Independents" is that
the bulk are younger, many with little ones still holding mom and dad's hands if not still in diapers (nappies?)

We have young families at TLM at San Ignacio. We have a Latin choir of volunteers from the sheep-in-the-pews. They started off shaky, but they are getting
pretty good lately. They lead us the rest of the sheep in singing, even during low masses. And we sheep are singing Gregorian Chant and traditional Latin
hymns. We have two low masses a month (with music) which is followed immediately by Benediction. The other two Sundays of the month are high masses (missa
cantata). Father has also asked the sheep to pray the Credo out loud with the priest during low masses. Of course we are all singing the Credo during high
masses. Isn't this called active participation in the liturgy IAW V-II?

Torqy
. . . who is no longer sullen on Sundays and has been letting his cyber-rack get a little rusty thanks to TLM

"non omnis moriar" . . . Horace, Odes

"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" . . . Red Green Show

"They see well that all who speak are nothing, for they shall fadeaway with the sound of their words, but the Lord endures forever.". . . Thomas a Kempis, THE IMITATION OF CHRIST, Book 4, Chapter 14, No. 4

I still think that Vatican II on the Liturgy was something that got screwed up by the "libruls" after either 1965 or 1967. All I know is that the
minute they departed from the Tridentine text in 1968 the mischief when overboard. I have this sort of naive idea that the ceremonial of the Mass could have
been simplified, the ordinary of the Mass should have been left in Latin and the readings put into the vernacular without the basic character of the Mass being
compromised. (Gee, at a pinch we Anglicans would have helped you revise the English Missal so that you had a decent vernacular Mass.) I would not say that 1965
is my ideal, but some sort of thoughtful use of the vernacular would have been beneficial. Can we get back to that? I don't know - but I will be cheering
from the sidelines if the Church heads that way. And I pray it does!