Beats the hell out of me. I am sitting on a patio overlooking the mediterranean and enjoying a cool drink.

All I will tell all of you is that if you are looking at benchmarks of engineering samples, just know that people who have their hands on samples are probably a generation or two behind. Sure, there are benchmarks, but they won't reflect production. Typically they get ahold of an old stepping as the OEMs get the new steppings.

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Just don't ever confuse me with an enthusiast and we will all get along fine. I have no idea what you guys do. I underclock my processors because I like quiet systems.

Well played sir, sounds like you're at an amazing spot. I will refrain myself from asking any follow up questions.

Just don't ever confuse me with an enthusiast and we will all get along fine. I have no idea what you guys do. I underclock my processors because I like quiet systems.

Well, technically you are an enthusiast if you enjoy the technology behind computing. Given your occupation, I would have to think you enjoy it somewhat. Granted, I can see how some might assume that a love of computing would equate to a love of overclocking/modding.

Beats the hell out of me. I am sitting on a patio overlooking the mediterranean and enjoying a cool drink.

All I will tell all of you is that if you are looking at benchmarks of engineering samples, just know that people who have their hands on samples are probably a generation or two behind. Sure, there are benchmarks, but they won't reflect production. Typically they get ahold of an old stepping as the OEMs get the new steppings.

Thank you for putting some of these rumors to rest finally.

Once again thank you for taking the time to post. And yes, you are the server guy.

Simon hasn't visited OCN in awhile, and now all the desktop guys are looking for answers from you.

Just don't ever confuse me with an enthusiast and we will all get along fine. I have no idea what you guys do. I underclock my processors because I like quiet systems.

Why have you chosen to post on multiple enthusiast forums if you aren't to be confused with an enthusiast? Also underclocking is the exact same process as overclocking, therefore you basically did just class yourself as an enthusiast.

I have followed your posts and blog closely and honestly it appears as if your role is a Bulldozer apologetic.

I am an enthusiast and but also employed in the rack server business and so far Bulldozer really is all talk, promises, and delays. This doesn't really mean much in the computer world, but yet still, people are alarmed by the lack of information from AMD and and the fail benches posted recently.Edited by gurusan - 6/10/11 at 8:07pm

Well, technically you are an enthusiast if you enjoy the technology behind computing. Given your occupation, I would have to think you enjoy it somewhat. Granted, I can see how some might assume that a love of computing would equate to a love of overclocking/modding.

I have access to bulldozer samples if I wanted them, but I haven't built a system yet. That should tell you that if I had the choice between debugging systems or being on my bike, the choice is clear.

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Why have you chosen to post on multiple enthusiast forums if you aren't to be confused with an enthusiast? Also underclocking is the exact same process as overclocking, therefore you basically did just class yourself as an enthusiast.

I have followed your posts and blog closely and honestly it appears as if your role is a Bulldozer apologetic.

I am an enthusiast and but also employed in the rack server business and so far Bulldozer really is all talk, promises, and delays. This doesn't really mean much in the computer world, but yet still, people are alarmed by the lack of information from AMD and and the fail benches posted recently.

I have posted on enthusiast forums because a.) people want to talk about technology and b.) occasionally people in the server world are in these forums, as you have indicated.

I am by no means apologetic for my product, but I am also not hyping my product. I will let the results play out because I believe we have a great product.

Since you are on the topic of "all talk", I will patiently sit back and watch on Sandybridge EP (promised for Q3) and Ivy Bridge (promised for Q4.) It will be interesting to see where they actually land. They might be "all talk, promises and delays" as well. But the reason I don't jump in and start criticizing them is that this is a comlicated business. We are putting hundreds of millions of transistors onto a compressed piece of sand about the size of your thumbnail. Everyone needs to cut the people in the semiconductor business a bit of slack, this is complicated work.