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[12:03] #startmeeting 1200 UTC Ubuntu Membership Board
[12:03] Meeting started Wed Sep 12 12:03:18 2012 UTC. The chair is cyphermox. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[12:03] Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board for the 1200 UTC meeting for September 12, 2012.
[12:03] The wiki page for the Review Board is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards
[12:03] We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.
[12:04] The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).
[12:04] Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.
[12:04] During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.
[12:04] When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!)
[12:04] #voters cyphermox Pendulum head_victim hggdh
[12:04] Current voters: Pendulum cyphermox head_victim hggdh
[12:04] Let's hope we can get through the long list of applicants tonight ;)
[12:04] omg!
[12:04] lol
[12:05] Now, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant...
[12:05] #subtopic Anthony Harrington
[12:05] Hello, everyone! My Name's Anthony and here's a link to my launchpad page: https://launchpad.net/~untaintableangel
[12:05] also to my wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AnthonyHarrington
[12:05] #link https://launchpad.net/~untaintableangel
[12:06] #link http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AnthonyHarrington
[12:06] (belt and suspenders, just making sure it's there in the meeting report thingy)
[12:06] I'm 22, i study chemistry at university and i'm from the northeast of england. I'd like to become an official ubuntu member :D
[12:07] #voters cyphermox Pendulum head_victim hggdh micahg
[12:07] Current voters: Pendulum cyphermox head_victim hggdh micahg
[12:09] untaintableangel: after reading your application and looking over the links, I'm curious about something. Not to belittle your translation efforts (nice karma for that!) are you involved in any other aspects of the community?
[12:10] Not currently, but in time i hope to provide coding related contributions and helping users answer questions in the ubuntuforums
[12:10] untaintableangel: Have you had any involvement with the UK LoCo as far as events or interacting with members online other than translations?
[12:11] Again, not currently, emails sent between me and other launchpad members are predominantly concerning translations
[12:11] untaintableangel: have you had contact with other Ubuntu members in your translation work?
[12:13] Why would you like to be a Ubuntu member?
[12:16] untaintableangel: still around?
[12:17] oh dear, i think my last message didn't go through, i'll type it again
[12:18] last I saw was " Again, not currently, emails sent between me and other launchpad members are predominantly concerning translations"
[12:19] let's give him a chance of either (1) finishing his typing, or (2) reconnecting
[12:20] I was saying, time does become very scarce during university term time and especially around exams so i do unfortunately miss out on events, and i have to contribute where at all possible time-wise.
[12:20] Yes, i get quite a few emails from users seeking advice or requesting assistance to complete a set. Every now and then i make sure to circulate several messages of encouragement to the team/users to spur them on in their efforts :)
[12:20] ant__: is that on mailing lists of offlist?
[12:20] oh, anr__ == untaintableangle
[12:21] both
[12:21] s/anr__/ant__
[12:21] I just hadn't seen much on the engb list in a long time (I'm a subscriber, I translate enAU)
[12:21] yes, sorry lol i don't know why my idendity changed and i don't know how to change it back XD
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[12:21] there we go, that's better lol
[12:22] ahhh, hi there
[12:22] :)
[12:22] ah, I looked at the engb list too, but just the last few months
[12:23] untaintableangel: Why would you like to be a Ubuntu member?
[12:24] I'd love to become an official ubuntu member because i've dedicated many years towards its translations and it has become such a great part of my life that i'd like to 'officially' be 'more intertwined' with it, if you will. lol
[12:25] What i'm saying is: ubuntu is something to be proud of and i'd like to be officially associated with it
[12:27] untaintableangel: what we are trying to ascertain is how involved with the community-at-large you are
[12:27] so please give us data on that
[12:28] i see, well i'm known to other english translators, certainly, and well known to specific teams like emesene
[12:29] but really, not much outside of launchpad
[12:30] 'at the moment' being the key point though. I would certainly be more involved at-large if i could contribute coding related things but i don't have the expertise just yet, i'm afraid :(
[12:32] it doesn't have to be coding
[12:32] untaintableangel: there is more "community at large" than just coding (I've never done any translations and I'd been a member for over a year before I did any code)
[12:32] Let's get to the voting part
[12:32] #vote Anthony Harrington to obtain Ubuntu Membership
[12:32] Please vote on: Anthony Harrington to obtain Ubuntu Membership
[12:32] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[12:33] +1 I would really like to see more community-at-large involvement, but the translation work justifies it (albeit minimally)
[12:33] +1 I would really like to see more community-at-large involvement, but the translation work justifies it (albeit minimally) received from hggdh
[12:33] +1 , please get more involved with other parts of the community where possible (like your LoCo team); you could be a great motivator for others to do translation work
[12:33] +1 , please get more involved with other parts of the community where possible (like your LoCo team); you could be a great motivator for others to do translation work received from cyphermox
[12:34] +1 A suggestion I have moving forward would be to try to interact more with the community in whatever area you like but your efforts to date warrant membership as is
[12:34] +1 A suggestion I have moving forward would be to try to interact more with the community in whatever area you like but your efforts to date warrant membership as is received from head_victim
[12:34] +1 good work with translations, but I'd love to see more community interaction (LoCo, maybe translations jams, etc.)
[12:34] +1 good work with translations, but I'd love to see more community interaction (LoCo, maybe translations jams, etc.) received from Pendulum
[12:34] I promise, i won't let you down :)
[12:34] untaintableangel: an example of how to get involved without having to code would be to run a translation jam with your loco or something similar :)
[12:34] yeah! that's a great idea
[12:35] a translation jam?
[12:35] +0 excellent translations work, but would have liked to see more integration with existing members
[12:35] +0 excellent translations work, but would have liked to see more integration with existing members received from micahg
[12:35] especially explaining at least the use and context in translating to en_GB
[12:35] untaintableangel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[12:35] untaintableangel: also, if you use IRC at all, hang out in the #ubuntu-uk IRC channel and that may give you some ideas on what's going on that you could do without too much more time on your part
[12:36] #endvote
[12:36] Voting ended on: Anthony Harrington to obtain Ubuntu Membership
[12:36] Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1
[12:36] Motion carried
[12:36] I'm sure the lovely folk in #ubuntu-uk would be a good place to start :)
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[12:36] Congratulations untaintableangel
[12:36] :D Thank you!!!
[12:36] Congratulations untaintableangel, keep up the good work :)
[12:36] wooooooo
[12:37] untaintableangel: welcome. Please do get around to know your community ;-)
[12:37] If you have a blog, don't forget you should be able to add it to planet.ubuntu.com shortly :)
[12:37] Thank you so much everyone :) I will become more involved
[12:37] (pending I do the necessary magic)
[12:37] blogging, yes, good point
[12:37] bah, cyphermox IS a magic
[12:37] pff
[12:37] lol
[12:37] Any other business?
[12:38] untaintableangel: congrats!
[12:38] no, I think we are done, cyphermox
[12:38] good good
[12:38] #endmeeting
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[12:38] Meeting ended Wed Sep 12 12:38:25 2012 UTC.
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[12:38] :)
[12:39] yay, the "#link" were useful. I knew it!
[12:40] untaintableangel: the whole point is that a community is made by the people you directly interact with, the ones that depend on your work, and the "others". Getting to know as many as you can outside your expertise area glues much better the community
[12:42] Thank you for your time and words of wisdom, everyone. Have a good day! :)
[12:43] untaintableangel: a good night for you, sir
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[14:00] good morning/evening
[14:01] Good evening here
[14:01] phillw: Say good morning/
[14:01] #startmeeting Ubuntu QA Community
[14:01] Meeting started Wed Sep 12 14:01:22 2012 UTC. The chair is balloons. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[14:01] good afternoon from UK
[14:02] who all is here?
[14:02] o/
[14:02] \o
[14:02] o/
[14:02] :-) so quick nice
[14:02] let's dive in shall we.
[14:02] ;-)
[14:03] [TOPIC] Previous Actions
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[14:03] I believe the only outstanding item is me to get the https://qa.ubuntu.com/ site fixed
[14:03] lol 3 weeks issue now:)
[14:03] the ticket is still outstanding.. I'm still waiting :-(
[14:03] it's going to take time
[14:04] just have to keep reminding them :)
[14:04] yep
[14:04] :)
[14:04] ok, so moving along then
[14:05] [ACTION] balloons to follow-up with ubuntu-qa website changes
[14:05] ACTION: balloons to follow-up with ubuntu-qa website changes
[14:05] [TOPIC] Ubuntu Updates
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[14:05] So updates for ubuntu :-) Well knome has been working on visually enhancing our testcases
[14:05] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/1039158
[14:05] Launchpad bug 1039158 in Ubuntu QA Website "Add css to have dl/dt/dd show as numbered list for testcases" [Wishlist,Fix committed]
[14:06] Yes and I destroyed it:)(
[14:06] By not knowing it:(
[14:06] Sorry everybody:)
[14:06] And I've been working on writing the new testcases for ubiquity and migrating the alt cases over as needed
[14:07] * smartboyhw goes and looks at the sandbox
[14:07] In addition, focus is being given now to getting the flavors on board with re-using the ubuntu testcases and adding flavor specifics in there own testcases
[14:07] i sent phillw some testcases, i wonder if he saw em. They were from the fedora team
[14:07] kanliot: yes, I have them & the ideas from Julien to look throughj.
[14:10] So, in addition, beta is behind us, ff is behind us.. things are starting to stabilize a bit
[14:10] Yay!
[14:11] * balloons checking schedule
[14:11] Sept 27th is beta2
[14:11] indeed, 2 weeks.
[14:11] once that hits it will be quite an october full of testing
[14:12] :-)
[14:12] ;0
[14:12] I think that's it for updates themselves.. any questions before we move on?
[14:13] No.:)
[14:14] [TOPIC] Other topics
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[14:15] that means the floor is open
[14:15] o/
[14:17] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1046563
[14:17] Launchpad bug 1046563 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager never appears on lubuntu precise" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[14:18] could use some help communicating with the maintainer
[14:18] kanliot: Please \o
[14:18] and wait for the chair (balloons' approval) before you speak:)
[14:18] go ahead phillw
[14:18] am i outta order?
[14:18] kanliot: You are:)
[14:18] kanliot, yes, but no worries
[14:19] the x-bug affecting ppc appears to have been a red herring as that fix was for graphic chips that ppc computers do not have.
[14:20] work is ongoing to add a command similar to the nomdeset command.
[14:21] it does not seem, at this time, that the bug is reproducable in a Virtual Machine, so it is heavily reliant on the L-QA guys who have the hardware.
[14:21] ..
[14:22] \o
[14:22] thanks phillw .. that's good news
[14:22] kanliot, go ahead
[14:22] ok bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1046563
[14:22] Launchpad bug 1046563 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager never appears on lubuntu precise" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[14:22] need help communicating with the maintainer
[14:22] to help suggest solutions
[14:23] That's awkward weird
[14:23] pretty much update manager turned it'self off on lubuntu last month\
[14:24] kanliot, really? phillw hear of others having the same issue?
[14:24] that's really bizarre
[14:25] yeah i'm surprised that more people arent upset
[14:25] basically, there's updates, but you'll never be prompted
[14:25] but i get upset about everything, so it's normal for me
[14:25] did you check and make sure the settings to prompt are correct?
[14:25] balloons: I'd have to fire up a VM, but it is confirmed by another tester
[14:25] perhaps reset them?
[14:25] phillw, ahh.. yes, we're all in quantal mode
[14:25] Me too I'm in quantal mode (and no Lubuntu ONLY)
[14:27] balloons: I'll dig out from my other drive an 12.04 lubuntu and run the upgrades through it on a VM - but my internet speed is slow, so it will take quite a few hours :(
[14:27] Don't worry we do have time:)
[14:27] phillw, no no.. I can confirm it much quicker than that
[14:27] it's pretty clearly broken
[14:27] balloons: :)
[14:27] but the point is it's been confirmed
[14:27] you can run the update manager through the cron script when it's working
[14:27] so I'm not worried about that.. just wanted to see how much debugging has been done
[14:27] and when it's broken, the cron script doesn nothing
[14:28] so reproducing isn't the problem
[14:28] ok kanliot i'll bring this up and see if we can get someone to give feedback on it
[14:28] thanks
[14:28] the problem is that all lubuntu people wont get updates if they upgrade to 12.04
[14:28] ty balloons
[14:28] yw
[14:28] \o
[14:28] smartboyhw, go ahead
[14:28] balloons: Just a small one
[14:28] sure
[14:28] and a reminder only:)
[14:28] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings/QA/20120905
[14:29] you forgotten to add it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings
[14:29] :)
[14:29] ..
[14:29] smartboyhw: it is there, just waiting on balloons to fix the regex :P
[14:29] * balloons is booting lubuntu 12.04 to see what happens
[14:29] ;P
[14:29] phillw, ohh right.. that regex.. my changes must not have saved
[14:29] perhaps I never saved it
[14:29] lol
[14:30] he he.
[14:30] [ACTION] balloons to fix regex on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings
[14:30] ACTION: balloons to fix regex on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings
[14:30] lol
[14:30] ..
[14:31] ok, any other questions?
[14:32] No. End the meeting:)
[14:33] phillw, kanliot testing the update-manager bug right now
[14:33] #endmeeting
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[14:33] Meeting ended Wed Sep 12 14:33:05 2012 UTC.
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[14:33] THanks balloons
[14:33] let's chat in #ubuntu-testing
[14:33] And phillw and kanliot
[14:33] thanks for chairing balloons
[14:33] * smartboyhw runs to #ubuntu-testing
[15:00] Hi folks
[15:00] o/
[15:00] o/
[15:00] \o
[15:00] \o/
[15:00] * xnox \0/
[15:00] /o/
[15:00] *plop*
[15:00] we need to practise the YMCA y'all.
[15:00] lol
[15:01] Steve is in a hot tub drinking champagne^W^W^W^W^W^Wat a managers' sprint, so asked me to run the meeting
[15:01] #startmeeting
[15:01] Meeting started Wed Sep 12 15:01:18 2012 UTC. The chair is cjwatson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:01] #topic lightning round
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[15:01] $ echo $(shuf -e barry bdmurray cjwatson ev doko ogra jodh stgraber infinity xnox stokachu)
[15:01] stokachu jodh xnox barry cjwatson ogra stgraber doko ev infinity bdmurray
[15:01] * infinity naps.
[15:03] - working on bug regression for libgcrypt, swamped in customer issues, backporting multi-arch into precise for the ones that have been approved, testing/verifying approved multiarch srus
[15:03] done
[15:03] oh yes, team meeting
[15:03] * ev scrambles
[15:03]