WASHINGTON (AP) - Some families could get priced out of health insurance due to what's being called a glitch in President Barack Obama's overhaul law. IRS regulations issued Wednesday failed to fix the problem as liberal backers of the president's plan had hoped.

As a result, some families that can't afford the employer coverage that they are offered on the job will not be able to get financial assistance from the government to buy private health insurance on their own. How many people will be affected is unclear.

The Obama administration says its hands were tied by the way Congress wrote the law. Officials said the administration tried to mitigate the impact. Families that can't get coverage because of the glitch will not face a tax penalty for remaining uninsured, the IRS rules said.

"This is a very significant problem, and we have urged that it be fixed," said Ron Pollack, executive director of Families USA, an advocacy group that supported the overhaul from its early days. "It is clear that the only way this can be fixed is through legislation and not the regulatory process."

“The Obama administration says its hands were tied by the way Congress wrote the law”

‘Just another, “I didn’t know nothing” excuse to throw “Congress” under the bus. Well, he sure pushed hard enough to have his darling pelosi say to find out what was in the bill after they could get a chance to read it. Yes massa, elections have consequences, sure ‘nuff.

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posted on 01/31/2013 12:55:21 PM PST
by freeangel
( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)

Don’t you remember? During the “fiscal cliff” negotiations with Beaner, O promised him that he (O) was going to blame EVERYTHING on the Republicans if he didn’t get his way. Well, I guess that was the only promise he’s ever kept.

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posted on 01/31/2013 1:15:32 PM PST
by redhead
(PRAY DAILY for a Restoration of the Righteous Intent of America)

I hope things improve for you folks somehow. My COBRA expired about 12 years ago. The only way we manage is through state-based coverage (not Massachusetts!). It actually works well for us and we are some of the very few survivors on the plan -- I don't mean still alive LOL, I mean nearly everyone else has been disqualified over the past few years). But this plan may go away in 2014 and then it is going to be the medical jungle for us like so many people.

His family probably doesn’t quite qualify for Medicaid just like ours doesn’t. Every year or so the state of Washington sends us a letter saying we are being evaluated for transfer into Medicaid. But then about three months later we get another letter saying we don’t qualify due to retirement assets (which aren’t that much). Recently they raised the qualifying ceiling but still doesn’t quite cut it.

"It is clear that the only way this can be fixed is through legislation and not the regulatory process."

Not true at all.

According to liberal economists, especially Krugman, the federal government can print as much money as it needs without having to worry about repercussions or balancing the budget. So, that being the case, Obama and the democrats can print as much money as they need to pay for those that can't pay for Obamacare. The doctors who take care of those people, will have to be forced to take that "monopoly" money, or else, they'll be the ones that get punished.

I remember Mark Steyn saying this years ago. When health care is nationalized, he said, every election and every political discussion becomes an argument about getting enough ambulances to each hospital and getting just the right number of doctor visits for each patient and getting proper medical care for every citizen’s hangnails. This is just the start of those endless political discussions.

The Apollo Alliance wrote a Cap and Trade bill too. There is enough evidence to suggest that they were essential to the health care debacle bill as well.

And, of course, Soros has his fingers in several pies as well.

“Weve talked about moving forward on these ideas for decades. The Apollo Alliance has been an important factor in helping us develop and execute a strategy that makes great progress on these goals and in motivating the public to support them. ....Harry Reid

“his hands are tied...behind his back as he was marched to the gallows, after being tried and found guilty for treasonous acts against the Citizens of the United States of America, where he was hung by the .........

Whoops, sorry wrong thread

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posted on 01/31/2013 5:12:45 PM PST
by eartick
(Been to the line in the sand and liked it)

If it was about assuring that everyone has healthcare that is precisely what should be done, they could care less.. Unfortunately, it is about government power and control, it is the final step into socialism.

He is invoking the “Congress” rule. Just mention Congress and the national idiots will think the Republicans passed healthcare. He knows full well how stupid the electorate is, he must laugh his ass off all the time, especially when he boards AF1.

My neighbors, for financial reasons, divorced. She recently on Medicare. He, younger, applied for a welfare type insurance plan from the state. She said that her part time job did not have a family insurance plan.

In my opinion, there were 18 million people without healthcare insurance but Obamacare transforms the entire national health care system and affects all residents of the U.S., not just the 18 million.

In the HR3590 summary, the words Requires the Secretary (of HSS) appear 98 times and Directs the Secretary appears 64 times. Authorizes the Secretary appears 30 times. The law gives a tremendous amount of power to one individual, Kathleen Sebelius, who was NOT elected by We, the People, and who serves at the will of the President.

The IRS may need as many as 16,000 additional auditors, agents and other employees to investigate and collect billions in new taxes from Americans. The government could have just expanded Medicaid to provide healthcare to the 18 million people and ask taxpayers to pay 1 to 2% more on their income tax to fund it. There is a great need for health care and I believe most Americans would have been willing to this tax. Instead we have a humongous mishmash of rules and regulations and taxations that intrude and affect every aspect of our lives.

After reading this information it appears that the Affordable Health Care Act is a wolf in sheeps clothing. The good stuff, coverage for children under 26 years old and pre-existing coverage were initiated first. Then the heavy fines and taxations and mandates will take effect in 2013 or later, after the November election of course.

The Obama Administration has already handed out 111 Obamacare waivers to U.S. companies. Unfortunately, if you’re a small business or don’t have connections you can’t get a waiver for your company. And there are some select groups who are exempt (Prisoners, illegal aliens, and foreign nationals, Amish, Mennonites, Scientologists and some Muslims). I think that Issuing waivers and exemptions to certain groups of people provides unequal treatment under the law. All laws should apply to all people. It is for this reason that this law violates the Constitution and should be thrown out. Just my opinion.

Stein knows what he’s talking about here. He experienced the political ramifications of nationalized health care in Britain and Canada. Any rational person would have avoided nationalization looking at the history of the Brits and Canadians if their interest was creating great health care... but it is rational if your interest is creating political influence and power.

There is a great need for health care and I believe most Americans would have been willing to this tax. Instead we have a humongous mishmash of rules and regulations and taxations that intrude and affect every aspect of our lives.

Obamacare was never about "healthcare".

It has always been about "control". That is, control of both a large segment of the American economy and control of our lives.

Don't kid yourself. Nobody was trying to do a "good deed" for the American people.

“I think that Issuing waivers and exemptions to certain groups of people provides unequal treatment under the law. All laws should apply to all people. It is for this reason that this law violates the Constitution and should be thrown out.”

That’s right, it plainly violates the Civil Rights Act

Extortion-Care

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posted on 01/31/2013 7:48:29 PM PST
by Varsity Flight
(Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)

“If it was about assuring that everyone has healthcare that is precisely what should be done, they could care less.. Unfortunately, it is about government power and control, it is the final step into socialism.”

Extended Territorial Government Work/Labor Camp.

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posted on 01/31/2013 7:53:16 PM PST
by Varsity Flight
(Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)

There was a thread awhile ago with a fairly old paper I think talking about how the money flowing through the economy is like a creek flowing into a lake. Once the money is in the population’s hands (the lake), it is hard to take it back out. Of course there are taxes, but the money is already being used in the individual’s interests funding business, etc.

The trick is to divert the money from the creek before it even gets to the lake. Government health insurance, and soon - Government health CARE (to fix the “crisis” created by Obamacare), will take a huge chunk of money (and power) out of the private market and directly into the government.

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posted on 01/31/2013 7:54:12 PM PST
by 21twelve
("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)

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