In the article praising the journalist turned daytime phenomena for her recent “60 Minutes” panel on Michigan voters, columnist John Podhoretz said Winfrey is someone to watch as 2020 approaches: “If any figure in the United States bears watching over the next couple of years as our political culture continues the radical transformation that led to the election of Donald Trump, it’s Oprah.”

While rumors have been swirling around a potential Oprah 2020 campaign for a while now, and while she has said she’d “never” run for public office, she’s also hinted that Trump’s election win and his presidency has given her the confidence that she perhaps does have enough experience to serve.

“I never considered the question, even a possibility, but now,” Winfrey added “after seeing Trump win, I just thought, ‘Oh, oh?’”