Do you think David Bowie was an influence on Marylin Manson?

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Yeah kind of catchy. Can't remember the precise Manson song this reminds me of, but it reminds me a bit of this one. [www.youtube.com]

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"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."

What was the two different eyes. Pictures? I read Marylin Mansons autobiography years ago. It was probably ghost written, although I'm sure it was at least based on interviews with him. He's repackaged about every idea that came before him in rock. He copied alot of Pink Floyd ideas, Doors, Kiss etc.

The song Rock is Dead is actually the name of a doors song.

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"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."

Manson wears the contact in one eye so he has two different eyes. Bowie also had two different eyes. The story I heard was Bowie was hit in the eye with a rock as a child and the pupil in that eye is now permanently dilated - so his eyes really are different...

Manson came from here - So. Fla. - he cut his teeth playing the bars down here. The local rock critics used to make fun of him and call him by his real name (I think it's Brian Tanner) because it totally pissed him off. Then he got huge.

Wow weird, bowie's eyes are also different colours, although that on its own is not entirely unusual.

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"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."

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"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."

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"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."

Sting actually did that. He did a concert in Uzbekistan for the brutal dictator of Uzbekistan's daughter for a couple million.

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"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."

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"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."

Video DENIED! Too bad - I would have liked to see that. I have mixed emotions about Marilyn. He's done some good stuff - especially with the Spooky Kids in the early days. But I saw him around the time of Antichrist after he had kicked everyone except Daisy Berkowitz out of the band and his stage set-up was straight out of Nazi Germany. The music was still good - the stage show... not so much. Hole was supposed to open - they cancelled and I ended up with a free ticket (my friend's wife wanted to see Hole - not Manson). So I saw Manson twice - both times free.

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"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."

That's very similar to the stage show I saw - the banners with the lightning bolts that evoke the swastika banners like Hitler had for his big speeches. Plus the Nazi outfit - the officer's hat and the black get-up. He was nothing like that when I saw him in the bar in the early days. The first time it was more like REM meets Alice Cooper (Manson stole most of his onstage mannerisms from Cooper, btw - the riding crop, the way he moves, etc...).

True - there's a whole sequence like that in The Wall movie. The Doors were huge in the late 70s - there was a massive revival around '79-80, so that's easy to understand too - he must have been heavily exposed to that. The first time I saw him, the band he most reminded me of was REM - he was wearing the long sleeve striped shirts, with the Dr. Seuss hat and 3 or 4 songs employed the megaphone for vocals like REM was doing at the time (mid 80s). There was a little emo there - but none of the Nazi stuff.

And the Alice Cooper moves - it's obvious he must have every Cooper album.

Waters' stage act is the same. I just saw it 7 months or so ago. He dresses up like a nazi has the big nazi-like double hammers flag up, the megaphone etc. Actually wasn't that impressed by the show. He was obviously lipsynching (his 70s voice couldn't handle the same stuff) at points, and mostly just playing off a recording on hey you it was just playing a recording from the album while he hid behind the wall on the stage iow he wasn't even playing, just the album was playing.

I felt ripped off on that one.

I'd seen Waters and Mason play 6 years ago, and that was another story, it was an amazing show. I guess that's the difference between Waters with at least another member of Pink Floyd and Waters alone.

Couple years ago a friend offered me a ticket to Waters - but I had to drive up to Palm Beach by myself, meet him in the parking lot somewhere, etc... etc... Too big a hassle since I wouldn't know anything except the Floyd stuff anyway (and I had already seen Floyd on Division Bell) - so I turned it down. Afterwards when I asked him about it he said it was a good show - but I've known this guy forever and I could tell from the way he was talking about it that he was really disappointed.

Saw Pink Floyd on Division Bell - which was everyone except Waters - was great. You know how I feel about Floyd - I'm over it. But they put on a great show and every song sounded like classic Pink Floyd to me. It was in a stadium and they had all the props - the pig, the wall, the big round screen, the ufo, the flying bed - everything. Perfect show for someone like me who's not a huge fan.