about the James Bay project, in north- ern Quebec. This is a hig hydro project that could displace about ten thou- sand Indians who live near it Now, we're 1l1aking a study of thIS, and we're going to be making our moves And what happens? Me Nader comes up there-a foreigner, a white man, some- one who doesn't know anything about Indians-and starts making a big splash in the papers and on television, with an kinds of statements about the projLct. This was ver}, very destructive to us. It makes it look as though Mr. Nader is our leader and we can't come up with a decen t leader of our own. It lnakes us look stupid, with a white lnan lead- ing us again. Besides that, we had InoveS thd.t we were planning to lnake in negotiations with the government, and Ml. Nader has come up and ab- solutely destroyed everything. This is the kind of do-gooder, bleeding-heart white person that I'm trying to keep away from IndIans." We asked what ViISS Horn thought about] ane Fonda's efforts on behalf of Indiîl1s, and ducked. "Jane Fonda I" Miss Horn almost shouted. "The soon- er she never mentions Indians again the better. She led the Indians into Fort Lawton, and when the television and newspaper people Cd1l1e around and started inter- vie\ving her, she was pro- testing Vietnaln. She forgot which crusddc she was on. She's donL so much harm to Indians. She Inakes us look ridiculous. Do we need a white WOlnan to lead us? She's just eXploiting us. If she really wants to help, why doesn't she give money for legal aid and stay in the back- ground, as a lot of sincere white people do? Not her. She has to be In the fore- front. She degrades Indians and makes white people lose respect for us. \\That makes it even worse is that she's a leftist. No good can COine of Indians' dssocidting with lny organization or person that is leftist or Socialist or COln- munist. Because our treatIes are with the Establishment, and whatever we can get that helongs to us we can get onl} from the Establishment. We are existing only by the good will of the w lute peo- ple, who could wipe us out any time they felt like it. If the white lnan wanted to, he could pass some legislation THE N W YORKER . ( , I' J { / . ;.. 4 .. --- ...,. ...-...-- """''''- .. --< .- - .--- ..........- .....- ---- ..."".. - -- ...,......."..., . - .... - .......... ......-' ............ .....""".,.. - --- .... ... --- -; :;:- ::;:;Jr/ii; .. and get I id of our Indian rights, our Indian lands, and our Indian status dS l epdrdte nation. I don't think we will accomplish anvthing bv antagoniz- ing the white 1l1an. I think we have to do things that wil1 gain us more respect. I don't think lnarching up and down in fron t of S01l1e building, carrying signs, is going to gain us much respect. "A lot of the Indian organizations have fallen by the wayside because of in terference b} bleeding-heart white people," Miss Horn went on. "These white people come In there and divert the Indians from what they're sup- posed to be doing. They want to start up SOIne protests, take children out of school, occupy the Bureau of Indian Affåirs offices, and things like that- things that are ver} damaging to In- dians. In one case, some Indians were thrown out of d hotel clnd SOlne InOre Indians were not allowed to register there. \Vell, son1e bleeding hearts pushed the Indians and said they ought to take the cast' to court, on the basis of the Bill of Rights. I advised the In- dians not to go into court, because I knew about those Indians. There were c:lbout nineteen of them in the roo In, and the, lnade a mess of the room, c:lnd they were drunk, and they were hav- t w .. @ $ , "\ f , "'" , f i ,IX. - ....,.. f I - ; "' " Ii<>. '* , $ I 1 @ $ < ' . t 'J. 'J1 " <..- " , ... - ---.... - - .... ,- j "..... ; - - .- ,.,- , ,.,.,....- ...- - - .."",. - ....".,.......".. -- - -- '-.".,. c..... 29 Ü1g, you know, like a thret'-day party. 'rhe hotel was trying to throw thel11 out. So the Indid,ns went into court, and what do vou think caIne out in the court? T he bad behavzor of I n- dzans. That's what they got for their trouble-bad publicity. Oh, I was so ashallled when I read the reports, be- cause I knew they were true. \Ve don't need that kind of thing It makes peo- ple hate Indians even lnore than they already do." "Do you think people hate Indians?" we asked. "Sure they do," Miss Horn said. "Why shouldn't they? You think they should love us for doing things like that-what they did in that hotel? Go to a city like \Vinnipeg, where about five per cent of the population is In- dian. The Indians are on wt'lfare, the} 're derelicts, the} 're always in jai1. Go to magistrate's court Monday lnorning and there's one Indian after another-drinking and fighting, drink- ing and fighting. Thirty-nine killings in that area, and all but si'C involving Indians. So there is a certain alnount of had feeling there. Can } ou bJalne the whites? " "Well, who zs to blalne?" we dsked. "Liquor, in the killings," Miss .......-.- , '} t/Þ' ,-- - - * 1ifÞ. " '" '\ h /' , 0(10 ?'ß:- .: t ^' . , ft "ft .11< IJ ø 1. ( 4" I - HII ; @J * ,9 A f - Iff - /...- " J1t", -- - ((Yours is a vanishing breed, Doctor"