Infantile drivel which conjures up classic images of puerile teenage boys determined to impress and shock their mates by showing just how cold and unemotional they can be.
some of the stuff on here is undoubtedly below the belt, but that I suspect, is very much the intention.

Is it infantile to be appalled by the media's canonization of a woman whose main claim to fame was initially her stupidity, then her racism ? Is it infantile to be disgusted by the blatant hypocrisy of the tabloid media / people in general who in one breath call for her to be lynched, then worshipped the next? I don't think it is at all infatile to say "I do not care about the suffering of an idiotic woman I've never met but who by all accounts was as thick as pig **** and twice as ignorant. Nor do I appreciate having the suffering and death of said woman rammed down my throat via every concievable form of media " .

What is infantile is to allow the tabloid press to act as your emotional barrometer - to have knee jerk reactions to coldly calculated media campaigns designed to elicit certain responses from the hard of thinking so they'll buy more newspapers.

A sharp and skilled operator. Knowing that the British laud ignorance and lack of learning she played up to it, dental nurses tend to have some brain power. It would have been interesting to have seen her in action without the showing off.

I have a dilemma now with her funeral on the 4th April - it is the same day as my wedding. Do I cancel the wedding out of respect? Do I just not turn up at the church and line up with all her fans? What if the church is empty due to the overwehlming grief that my guests feels they need to express?

Max Clifford was being interviewed on BBC Breakfast news on Sunday morning and said that most of his clients come to him because they are trying to keep out of the limelight. Well that makes him a pretty sh*t PUBLICIST then! What a toatal arse.

You want to know what's infantile ? I'll tell you. For a start, comments in your hate filled posts such as this little beauty :

"She should be villified, not praised for her lack of taste, decency and intelligence."

Not only is that statement utterly absurd and ridiculous, but it suggests a raging anger typical of an immature mind.

Comments like that one and many more on this thread I would associate with the callous, spiteful, hate and anger filled rantings of the school playground.

Death is always tragic, and not less so when it comes to a young mother in a particuarily unpleasent manner. Smee whilst accepting that "some people may not like her or what she did" understood this. It is after all, the grown-up attitude.

Lack of empathy is imo a sign of an immature character. Children lack the empathy of adults, hence they often appear cruel and uncaring of one another's feelings. As children grow up into mature adults, they become much more able to understand and associate with the personal feelings and sufferings of others. IIRC, judging by your attitude on SillyOldHector's thread where he mentioned his devastation due to the loss of a much loved pet, I reckon you've got quite a bit of growing up to do GNARGNAR.

Furthermore, an inability to understand when it is appropriate and when it is not appropriate to launch into a character assassination of an individual, suggests a lack of social skills and a further sign of immaturity. I would suggest that it is not appropriate to do so on the day of the announcement of the person's death.

Which brings me to the astonishing reaction by some, of Gordon Brown's comments. What Gordon Brown said on hearing of the death before her time, of a young mother who was very much in the public eye, was perfectly in keeping with the socially accepted protocol of a man in his position. I can only assume that those who criticised him did so driven by a pathetic and childish need to have a dig at the the leader of the Labour Party. David Cameron also paid tribute to JG, but presumably because he is leader of the Conservative Party, was spared any such criticism.

And before anyone asks yes, the view from my high horse is indeed stunning - some of you ought to get out of the gutter and have a look.

That's twice this week we have agreed on something this week GG.
This thread, like all of its kind, speaks volumes about the posters, and little about the subject.

Jade Goody was chosen by Channel 4 to appear on BB. They knew that her brashness, lack of education etc. would provide good "entertainment".
They then chose to put her in the house again, knowing full well that she may cause controversy.
Jade was an opportunist, and took full advantage of what was thrown at her.
She died an untimely death. She has left behind 2 litle boys who may grow up to be fairly screwed-up.
And all you sanctimonious posters who accuse her of having been racist...what's worse?...sneering at the death of a 27 yr old or making a joke(allbeit bad taste) about someone who got on your nerves????

Fair enough. I do not disagree with you on here either, it is unfortunate that (as was pointed out earlier) something which is on its own terms rather tragic has got so many people thinking about why we are interested in all this stuff. It is rather difficult to do that debate without it getting tangled in nastiness. Ach well.

Grizzlygus, you may well be of the opinion that my statement "suggests a raging anger typical of an immature mind". That's your opinion and obviously you're entitled to it, I believe that your statement suggests the crocodile tears of someone who is desperate to claim the moral high ground due to some warped media driven perception of how one should act as opposed to anything resembling genuine grief or sympathy.

Did you know Jade Goody? Did you ever meet Jade Goody? Have you broken down and wept for her? Will you be attending her funeral? Did she "touch your life" in some way? I am assuming the answer to any of those questions would be no. As it would be for the vast majority of people "mourning" her and "paying tribute" to her.

I find the practice of feigning grief for complete strangers laughable and absurd, in my opinion the misplaced, cheaply bought grief of idiots and emotional weaklings distorts and degrades the suffering of those who have actually suffered a loss.

You have no legitimate reasons to feel anything for that woman, all you are doing is joining in with the chorus of bleating sheep, so keen to be seen to care, yet not really giving a shit, not actually feeling any genuine grief and who in all probability will have forgotten the whole episode in a few weeks.

Someone died young leaving her children without a mother...some of us think this is a shame and a little sad. We have not met her does it matter?Now let me give you some choices
I have not met my work coleagues mum who died recently on being told by her do I
1.Offer symapthy to her and chip in for the flowers
2. Say it is not my Mum why the **** are you telling me , we have not met and i am totally unaffected by this news and by the way the workplace is no place for crying

What should we do? the choice seems so difficult I hate these moral dilemma

Being angry at the media ia one thing lacking empathy and some basic human compassion is another thing.

Oooooh god...........I just realised she was 27. She was on the telly too wasn't she? I've just realised that I am in fact a monster for making insensitive comments about a complete stranger who had no bearing on my life whatsoever.

Suddenly the enormity of the concept becomes apparent to me and grief crushes me like an elephant dropped from a hot air balloon. I feel an inexplicable sense of guilt, I shall go and cry. Thank god you quoted smee, in bold, or I would never have experienced this epiphany.

They are far better people than Jade Goodey who die everyday without any comment made, its sad for her kids and family and that's about it. Some people make more over celebs (strangers)dying than they do over members of there their own family, now that's tragic!

Thank god I have an off button on my telly and dont have to buy newspapers then....

When Diana died the constant media coverage really irritated me, but this was mainly due to the disgusting disproportionate coverage of Mother Theresa's death which ocurred at almost the same time.

At the time my 30 year old sister bought the big colour photo book, and went and followed the cavalcade when Diana died, she never mentioned her before, to me this was insane, mass hysteria.

But I think people like to be told what to think by the media, what to talk about with their peers, how to feel about things, and enjoy the feeling of community they get from shared "grief" wether it is based on real feeling or not.

Either way its a bit harsh to slate Jade the individual, she made a career out of nothing, and I dont think she has cheapened anyones experience of Cancer, they are probably too busy worrying about their own disease to be insulted....

I have not met my work coleagues mum who died recently on being told by her do I
1.Offer symapthy to her and chip in for the flowers
2. Say it is not my Mum why the **** are you telling me , we have not met and i am totally unaffected by this news and by the way the workplace is no place for crying