The Ultimate Bad Guy

Every expansion has had one, although Vanilla wow seemed to have several. In The Burning Crusade we went after Illidan; in Wrath of the Litch King it was Arthas; in Cataclysm Dethwing. Who will take that title in Pandaria, if anyone is still a mystery.

So what do you think? Who’s it going to be? My money is on Wrathion. I love his character, and we all suspect a hidden agenda. I suspect Betrayal.

Every expansion has had one, although Vanilla wow seemed to have several. In The Burning Crusade we went after Illidan; in Wrath of the Litch King it was Arthas; in Cataclysm Dethwing. Who will take that title in Pandaria, if anyone is still a mystery.

So what do you think? Who’s it going to be? My money is on Wrathion. I love his character, and we all suspect a hidden agenda. I suspect Betrayal.

My guess is that the corruption won't expose itself until after Garrosh has been beaten. Then we'll have to fight the corruption; which will eventually nearly overpower us until Garrosh gets up and finishes it off before succumbing to his injuries. Like father, like son.

Part of me is still thinking the siege of org is going to be a scenario, since they've talked like horde and alliance are doing different things. They could have it be a scenario and have a final raid with a true, or at least co-big bad.

I still wouldn't be that surprised, despite the fact we're told hes dead, if the defeated sha were to merge into either Ysaarj or some Sha Prime whose defeat frees pandaria from the sha. Frankly it seems to me the only outcome to make all the damage caused worth it.

As far as I can tell, they have never actually said that the Siege of Orgrimmar is a raid, just a patch.

“I’ll just cut to the chase: The final patch of this expansion set does not occur in Pandaria,” says Metzen. “The war between the Alliance and the Horde heats up as they roll onto Pandaria and it’s certainly a huge battleground, but things get so gnarly and so out of control –- warcrimes kind of committed by one side — it starts to spiral into crazyville. The final patch of Mists of Pandaria will actually be the Siege of Orgrimmar, where both factions for their own reasons lay siege to this city to bring Garrosh down, to put an end to this reign as warchief.”

A main focus we saw for MoP was the Horde/Alliance conflict. Can you tell us about how we can expect that to play out while questing?

It's interesting because in the box product -- you know, you probably saw it -- but you're not arriving on Pandaria with a huge army. It starts with a shipwreck and a small crew that you kind of adventure with, and you're trying to make use of everything about you. Most of the Alliance/Horde conflict is about that, small groups using the environment to the best of your ability, biding your time.

And in the patches that follow, in the patch plan, that's when things really start to accelerate. In the first patch, that's when the ships roll up on the beach, and then the tanks roll out of the ships, and then there's open warfare. And there'll be other events building up to this -- what's happening with Wrynn, with Garrosh, such that in our final raid, everybody has a reason to kick down the gates of Orgrimmar and take down Garrosh.

And that's exciting! There's that whole story arc we have planned, and I'm not sure how it'll take shape, with how many patches it'll take to come across, but we have these plans to tell this story about the Alliance and the Horde and the pandaren and their cultural exchange and what happens to Garrosh, leading up to the future.

It's pretty tough to interpret this as anything other then the final raid being an assault on Orgrimmar and the final boss of that raid being Garrosh Hellscream.

Now there are plenty of details that aren't yet known. We could have additional dungeons/scenarios that take place in/around Orgrimmar, and the raid itself could extend to areas not in the current city (such as newly constructed tunnels). We also don't know how much magical corruption Garrosh will be exposed to at this point, but even if he's totally corrupted it'll just be icing on the cake since there is already a resistance movement building against him.

Every expansion has had one, although Vanilla wow seemed to have several. In The Burning Crusade we went after Illidan; in Wrath of the Litch King it was Arthas; in Cataclysm Dethwing. Who will take that title in Pandaria, if anyone is still a mystery.

So what do you think? Who’s it going to be? My money is on Wrathion. I love his character, and we all suspect a hidden agenda. I suspect Betrayal.

Now that you mention, I do find it odd I get rep with Wrathion for killing Alliance troops.

Every expansion has had one, although Vanilla wow seemed to have several. In The Burning Crusade we went after Illidan; in Wrath of the Litch King it was Arthas; in Cataclysm Dethwing. Who will take that title in Pandaria, if anyone is still a mystery.

So what do you think? Who’s it going to be? My money is on Wrathion. I love his character, and we all suspect a hidden agenda. I suspect Betrayal.

Now that you mention, I do find it odd I get rep with Wrathion for killing Alliance troops.

And I'm pretty sure the reverse is true as well.

It is. Wrathion is purposely pitting Alliance heroes against Horde heroes by promising them trinkets and baubles. Chances are that he'll use us in a way we do not like eventually.

I really hope they don't try to martyr Garrosh like they did Grom. And "THE VOICES IN MY HEAD MADE ME DO IT!" is becoming a tiresome refrain in WoW. Less "corruption" more villainy please.

Absolutely agreed.

He's already done more then enough to make the Alliance hate him and incite a rebellion from within the ranks of the Horde. If he ends up falling under any sort of corruption, it should simply be a way to explain why he can fight off the entire raid plus multiple heroes.

If we purge him of said corruption, I would hope that instead of seeing his faults he starts screaming about how we "took away his power" and keeps on attacking us.

How about Garrosh manages to control all 6 Sha then merges with the 6 strongest becoming a new Y'shaarj to replace the old Y'shaarj(Blizzard refused to comment on whether or not Y'shaarj will be seen by the players despite saying the he's Very Very Very Dead) only for the remnants of the Twilight's Hammer to attack because N'Zoth dosen't want one of his rivals brought back in any form(C'thun and Yogg-Saron were rivals to N'Zoth so I don't see why Y'shaarj wouldn't be one). Once the Raiders beat the Twilight's Hammer they will fight Y'shaarj underneath Orgrimmar as the final boss(the first Old God to become a Final Boss)

It is. Wrathion is purposely pitting Alliance heroes against Horde heroes by promising them trinkets and baubles. Chances are that he'll use us in a way we do not like eventually.

I am more inclined to believe that Wrathion is using the war in order to hone us into weapons for the final war against the Burning Legion. Rather than having us come out weaker from this war, like the Legion surely wants, we will come out stronger and more focused than ever.