Forget Fleabay, what's with the crazy prices on Dumbtree?? I have a real 40's Speedwell, shall i dare ask for $1000. I should easily be able to get $300 for the immaculate "Bell" 1240 seat. Bondi breeds this madness.

For that price it'd want to come with a hooker that does you 5 times a week, are some people serious? The stupid thing is some nutbag will pay that & stick it on his shelf, so he can brag off to all his friends. Dead set tossers.

For that price it'd want to come with a hooker that does you 5 times a week, are some people serious? The stupid thing is some nutbag will pay that & stick it on his shelf, so he can brag off to all his friends. Dead set tossers.

Especially when I saw a full Campy tool kit in its wooden box for $1500 a few weeks back.

I so want one of them. Perfect for all your old steel roadie rebuilds and restores.

Five star is sold to a happy new owner. Lots of viewers but no bids until after auction ended. I was puzzled by the lack of bids. Post christmas poverty maybe? Frame is in great condition but the slightly chipped paint may have put some people off needlessly. It may have appeared as structural damage rather than simple cosmetics.I am selling a 30's racing frame now for a song. I love old iron and it's worth more, but maybe I am biased.

barkmadly wrote:Five star is sold to a happy new owner. Lots of viewers but no bids until after auction ended. I was puzzled by the lack of bids. Post christmas poverty maybe? Frame is in great condition but the slightly chipped paint may have put some people off needlessly. It may have appeared as structural damage rather than simple cosmetics.I am selling a 30's racing frame now for a song. I love old iron and it's worth more, but maybe I am biased.

eBay can be fickle. I once sold a lugless 5 star, got about $550 for the frame. A couple of weeks later saw a standard lugged 5 star with pretty ordinary paint go fit nearly $1000. I know which person got the better deal. And I know which one I would rather have. Wish I hadn't sold it.

barkmadly wrote:Five star is sold to a happy new owner. Lots of viewers but no bids until after auction ended. I was puzzled by the lack of bids. Post christmas poverty maybe? Frame is in great condition but the slightly chipped paint may have put some people off needlessly. It may have appeared as structural damage rather than simple cosmetics.I am selling a 30's racing frame now for a song. I love old iron and it's worth more, but maybe I am biased.

I personally am not confident to buy a five star without a conforming serial number.

For that price it'd want to come with a hooker that does you 5 times a week, are some people serious? The stupid thing is some nutbag will pay that & stick it on his shelf, so he can brag off to all his friends. Dead set tossers.

Just wait, in a few years all the really valuable stuff will be living in someones lounge room and it will be part of their self managed superannuation fund. This is what has happened to 70's Ducati motorcycles. When the serious money joins in all of us will be lamenting that Colnago or Eddie Merckx we should have bought for a thousand dollars. Instead of the ten thousand some greedy investor will pay. Prices will climb and there is always going to be more dickwits ready to pay too much. Enjoy it while you can because as soon as some financial adviser or investor hear or sees some of the beautiful and exotic bikes that are around it's over red rover for us amateurs.

I realise that 5 stars can vary in quality depending wh, when and where they were built. As for conforming numbers, I don't that is a guarantee of the bike's bona fides.I have two other 5 stars, both un-numbered. One is as lights as a feather, the other fairy standard. I have no concerns about their bona fides - it just supports my theory that theory that spec and build varies. They are collectable for what they represent - Australian cycling heritage.

For that price it'd want to come with a hooker that does you 5 times a week, are some people serious? The stupid thing is some nutbag will pay that & stick it on his shelf, so he can brag off to all his friends. Dead set tossers.

Just wait, in a few years all the really valuable stuff will be living in someones lounge room and it will be part of their self managed superannuation fund. This is what has happened to 70's Ducati motorcycles. When the serious money joins in all of us will be lamenting that Colnago or Eddie Merckx we should have bought for a thousand dollars. Instead of the ten thousand some greedy investor will pay. Prices will climb and there is always going to be more dickwits ready to pay too much. Enjoy it while you can because as soon as some financial adviser or investor hear or sees some of the beautiful and exotic bikes that are around it's over red rover for us amateurs.

Not sure of the investment quality in bicycles, as the bottom fell out in the American cycle market.

The serial numbers for 5 star Malvern Stars is a big can of worms. Quite a lot of 5 star Malvern Stars have no numbers, or numbers that dont conform to the accepted factory sequence. The ones that 'dont conform', usually have something special about them. The fact that the number doesnt fit into the factory sequence doesnt mean that it is not a 'real' 5 star. I have seen hundreds of 5 star frames, and am sure that one of those was a 'fake', another maybe a fake, the rest seem to me to be 'real'. I could write a book on the variations to 'normal'. I think that the ones without serial numbers have usually had the rear dropouts replaced, and the number lost in the process. This is bourne out by the fact that in most of these cases, the rear dropouts are either Simplex, Benelux or Campagnolo, and are older frames with these ends put in later, as they became available, and as derailleur gears became more accepted for club level racing.An old 5 star Malvern Star was as good a bike as any to 'recycle' for a young rider, and would be modified by a frame builder prior to a repaint. My own 1949 5 star lugless, purchased by me in 1972, has been painted 4 times that I know of, and has just recently had all of the modifications that I had done to it reversed, and put back to 'original' 1949 specs. It is about to have its 5th paint job.The 5 Star frames with non conforming numbers, are usually high end frames, built to order. These are often, but not always, the best of the 5 stars. Each 5 Star frame has to be judged on its merits. The frame number is only one part of the picture.Warren

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