Thanks for your response t8, though I must say I am disappointed. In a website, with pages supposedly discussing the trinity, they only really focus on the identity of Jesus. The Holy Spirit is hardly mentioned. Then when asked, all I get is an analogy on the rays of the sun. Though a good analogy, and I do appreciate you responding, it does remind me of the writings of the early trinitarian Sabellius.

I myself am someone who has been brought up with a Trinitarian mindset, and am currently in the process of genuinely looking into its claims, and asking God to show me truth from his word.

I read this verse the other day and thought it might be relevant in your search.

The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.

So the Holy Spirit came to Mary and notice that it doesn’t say ‘power of the Holy Spirit’, rather ‘power of the Most High’. Is that an indirect reference that the Holy Spirit is not another person, but part of God himself?

Further we read this regarding the Holy Spirit and Jesus.

Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

Surely this is showing us that the Holy Spirit is greater than the Son of Man. If the Holy Spirit was God’s essence or what God is, then it would make sense. But if the Holy Spirit was a third person below the Son of God, the third member, then it would seem contradictory.

Sabellius was a modalist and that teaching is broken in many of the same places as Trinitarianism. Modalist find the concept of three persons in one individual as absurd and so rejected that broken tenet but that still blaspheme the name of God by claiming Jesus is the one true God.

Dear t8, I do understand what you are saying but the letter killeth. Even as Nick says things must be understood spiritually and not with that carnal mind.

While you claim to keep it simple you at the same time make it even more complex.If I say Jesus Christ is the unique Son,am I not saying he’s God since he’s not quite the same as us? You may say based on various scripture that God hath not been seen,but just who did Isaiah see in his blessed theophany in Isaiah 6? St John’s gospel claims in 12:41 he saw the glory of Jesus Christ-the revealed God! Why did Jesus not say”this is life eternal that they may know thee the only true God” and leave it at that? Why must we know him to know God? You believe in Father,Son, and Holy Ghost? I know you do but not in the word trinity.You mince about words for what? for disunity? to see yourself as smarter,better,or a”real” Christian above the heretics?

If one believes in Jesus Christ,they believe not in him but the one who sent him? what form of religious spirit is that?