I've been using Lupu on a couple of old laptops for a month or so. Really like it. I decided to try Lhp 5.03 + Mariner on a beefier Dell Dimension 8400.

I booted from the Live CD of Mariner, saved the sfs's to sda1, saved the savefile to sda1 and rebooted. Xorgwizard appears, I choose ATI | Radeon (since that's what I've got). Lhp starts, but the USB wired mouse and PS2 wired kb don't work at all.

I also saw two messages during startup....let's see if I can capture them before they scroll off.

I booted from the Live CD of Mariner, saved the sfs's to sda1, saved the savefile to sda1 and rebooted. Xorgwizard appears, I choose ATI | Radeon (since that's what I've got). Lhp starts, but the USB wired mouse and PS2 wired kb don't work at all.

I also saw two messages during startup....let's see if I can capture them before they scroll off.

draftsight_beta_520.sfs was tested on Lucid Puppy but is Lighthouse ready if you rename it to draftsight_beta_520_503.sfs
It installs itself in the Graphic menu.
The executable will be found at /opt/dassault-systemes/draftsight/bin/DraftSight

It works well with all native DWG files including 2010.
Does viewport layering correctly.
Multipage PDF export.
Still in Beta, requires email address for free activation.
Not as fast as AutoCAD.
Hatching is a small problem.
Plotting problems as usual.
Will run in 512 Mb but needs 1 Gb.
Crossplatform Linux and Windows.
Free (Solidworks says it always will be) but not open source.

Please help! I have been using Lighthouse pup 4.3.3,and my Lucent win modem is working very fine.But in Lucid puppy my modem is not recognized.Please help,which driver have you used in puppy 4.3.3.Thanx!

Please help! I have been using Lighthouse pup 4.3.3,and my Lucent win modem is working very fine.But in Lucid puppy my modem is not recognized.Please help,which driver have you used in puppy 4.3.3.Thanx!

Hi Diamond,
Which Lucid Puppy are you using? Paste this into a terminal to detect:

Code:

cat /etc/DISTRO_SPECS | grep ^DISTRO_VERSION

I don't know about the modem drivers--not even whether they are firmware or kernel modules... I think LHP 4.43 was based on Puppy 4.3.1 and kernel 2.6.30.5. I did find this at the Lucid Puppy thread:

Q5sys found a bug where an encrypted LHPsave does not properly re-size if an incorrect password is entered on the first try. Booting with pfix=fsck does not correct the condition as it normally would. This only applies to light or heavy encrypted save files; normal LHPsaves are not affected by this bug.

If you use or plan to use an encrypted LHPsave in LHP 5.03 and boot with a GRUB boot loader, replace the initrd.gz with this updated one, which correctly re-sizes whenever the correct password is entered, and enables pfix=fsck to function correctly:
http://lhpup.org/source/503/testing/u2/

PM me if you have observed this bug in other Puppies, or would like to see what changes were made to the init script.

In addition to the bugfix, the initrd.gz also includes an updated e2fsprogs (ext2/3/4 file system management) for boot-time only. Install this Pet to extend the e2fsprogs update to the desktop:
e2fsprogs-1.41.14-i486-L1.pet

tazoc I hope I have not promised too much but one new user asked some questions and I did recommend LHP as the flexible Puppy taht could load and unload sfs files rather easily.

Hope I did not mislead that user? I am such a poor reader of official texts on first page or manuals and such which usually use more abstract words and are very logically structured and I get lost in all the details to take in.

What is your best everyday explanation of what LHP can do.

Pro et con for those features. What to think of. okay I try to read your first post again.

Sorry I am talking about this text.

Quote:

* SFS copy2ram at first or any boot, with a brief prompt for full selection and configuration early in the boot process, prior to mounting the layered file system.

* If sufficient free RAM is detected, all core files and SFS add-ons can be copied to RAM. This means the Mariner ISO is now a true LiveCD with the add-ons Xfce, Mariner & LibreOffice SFS running in RAM at first boot.

So if I am on frugal install and boot LHP how is this copy2ram implemented?[/quote]_________________I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

tazoc I hope I have not promised too much but one new user asked some questions and I did recommend LHP as the flexible Puppy taht could load and unload sfs files rather easily.
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So if I am on frugal install and boot LHP how is this copy2ram implemented?

Thank you for recommending LHP. When booting Lighthouse, If any .sfs add-ons are found on the boot media, before they are loaded, a brief prompt is offered to select and configure them, (a 5 sec prompt to press Enter.)

The prompt appears when booting from LiveCD / pfix=ram, as well as after an LHPsave file is created, but only if extra .sfs files are located by the init script (that script is part of the initrd.gz--initial ramdisk.)

The SFS configuration allows you to choose which add-ons you'd like to use that session, and whether or not to copy them to RAM. Skip the prompt and use all SFS selected in prior configuration / BootManager / pre-selections from LiveCD.

Available free RAM is recalculated after each copy2ram. If RAM is low, only SFS files that will safely fit in RAM will be copied and the rest will mount in place. This way all selected add-ons will be loaded, making maximum use of available RAM.

As boot process continues, the SFS that are copied to RAM are displayed with an 'R' beside the file name. If RAM is low or the user chooses in the configuration to mount in place instead of copying, an 'M' (mount) is displayed instead of the 'R'.

Menu | System | BootManager | Select SFS | OK pops up an SFS Boot Settings GUI to configure the boot-time prompt. The Help button has more about this. Screen shot attached.

Lighthouse currently does not include support for loading and unloading SFS add-ons from the desktop without rebooting, and not all with a full install. Shinobar has written an experimental utility called sfs_load-1.1 on-the-fly, however I have not used it myself.

I wish somebody could test all four and compare them on a level that even newbies can grasp? I don't trust me can do it.

As long as you boot with puppy pfix=ram no harm should result when trying them. That said, I think all are experimental to an extent, except for the original layer-at-boot method in most Puppies and LHP. I'm impressed with Shinobar's work in many aspects of Puppy. We are lucky to have such creative and hard-working developers.

Quote:

Does any of the SFS get into the pupsave using your method?

No, they are layered into the file system, each SFS in its own read-only layer (the blue layers in the Architecture diagram.) Keep in mind however, most software, including PETS and apps in an SFS will create configuration/cache files and/or start up scripts in /root, which is retained in the pupsave--unless you boot with pfix=ram and choose not to save the session at shutdown. Seaside's approach is unique in that his 'pupsave' is converted to an SFS, so that he can always boot with pfix=ram. And according to the description, it is quick and minimal by design--Puppy in a nutshell!

A zpxxxxx.sfs converted pupsave may not work in LHP, as it already has a zWine.sfs using /dev/loop3. So in LHP, name it without a beginning 'z', as with other extra SFS, then select it in the boot-time configuration by pressing Enter at the 5 sec prompt. In LHP the extra SFS files are layered in alphabetical order, first the main file and zWine, then numerals, then upper-case, with lower-case last. That's why the KDE SFS begins with a '4' and Mariner a '5'.
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Thanks I have to learn how to do the dir2sfs thing. I have no clue. His description was way over my head and the lupu525lite that I made experiment on had no dir2sfs so not sure how to do that one then.

I guess me have to find another puppy to experiment on.

night here now so I look into it most likely tomorrow. I got both opera and firefox goiing using his approach though.

So I only need to learn how to change my pupsave into a sfs. _________________I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

@Nooby
As you are aware, I run "Live" PUPs. I have used LHPUP where on first start-up ONLY, I used the facility that @TazOC mentions for loading SFS at boot. This is a one-time, first-time occurrance for my Live system. When I saved the session at Shutdown, all configrations that were done in the session were saved AND were present on reboot. I love this approach not just for pfix=ram flexibility that it offers, but for the ability to include on a LiveDVD, most everything I would want for my tailored Puppy running system.

I have found that I can burn the ISO, then use "growisofs" to add the additional 32bit SFSs I would want in my running system before booting the ISO. Then, at boot time, I select all of the services I feel my LHPUP should be providing.

@TazOC has provided one additional difference maker: his method of adding services to LHPUP is a premier effort. Its clean, full-featured, easy to understand, and includes a method of updating that we haven't seen in the PUPs arena. I look at it as a PPM replacement for LHPUP

This is a really polished approach by him. I don't know how he has been so successful because it does not appear that he has the same resource commitment we've seen in other PUP efforts. Just lots and lots of clever stuff.

Edited: In summary, I add the SFSs to the LiveDVD that I want to start with; so that I get them on my desktop system at boot (this is one-time). After my 1st save-session, I would use the SFS_Linker for any other SFSs that I want to add AND use on my running Live system's desktop. This allows use of the SFS without shutdown/reboot.

@TazOC
As I remember it, JRB worked with you last year on getting SFS Linker to work with LHPUP. It works very well as far as I know and I believe you even tested it yourself.

It appears to be easy to use.

My ONLY question is about maintaining SFSs from the Linker over reboots with session saves.

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Thanks, I am not bright enough to sort all this out but I trust that people who look for such solutions and reading here will get it as you intended.

What I failed most at was the make a sfs of the pupsave that have the personal settings like local time and keyboard and resolution and desktop picture and widgets like Analog Clock settings of icons on the screen and mouse acceleration and such that one want to have next time

I found one dir2sfs but it was bundled with three other things and I have no idea how to make use of it. I did a search for dir2sfs.pet but found none singly made for that purpose.

And none of the puppies I booted had it? Does puppy431 maybe have it?
Quirky? Those I did not check up on.

Too few people seems to be into sfs things.

The reason I don't use LHP is that I am too slow. It opens up popups at start that ask a lot of questions and I fail to get the text in them.

Mariner and I have no idea what a Mariner is._________________I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

I downloaded your Mariner.iso and decided to try it on a DVD+RW... seem to be having some difficulty on my end with proper saves (back onto the DVD), shutdowns, or reboots. Is there anything in particular I should look at to figure out why?

[EDIT: Some problems were caused by using the boot option that copied the selected SFS's to RAM. Frisbee would not connect and SFS's -- Mariner.sfs, as one noticeable example -- never showed up. Selecting the 'M' function of loading sfs's appears to have cured that]

One other question while I'm posting: Is there a GUI [EDIT: or menu item] included that will specifically FORMAT a DVD+RW instead of trying to BLANK the DVD as if it were a DVD-RW (it is not a -RW)?

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