From toadlily@integra.net Thu, 01 Nov 2018 15:17:02 -0700
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From: Laura & Dave
Subject: Phycella bicolor
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 15:05:00 -0700
Hi mike
One of the tricks I use (and you may already know this), is to Google the
plant in question, and click on */more images/* (usually appears on first page
with a row of images). Most images are of the flowers, but there are usually
/some/ of wild habitats. One has to decide which images are of plants in the
wild, or just very natural gardens, but often hints of culture can be gleaned.
There are a number of photos for Phycella bicolor, one showing them growing in
what appears to be stream side gravel, another among boulders on a steep slope
with lots of other vegetation. This may indicate lots of water that quickly
drains away or is taken up by other plants, and dry conditions when not in the
rainy season. Translating wild conditions to ones particular growing situation
is the trick, of course.
Hope this helps,
Dave Brastow, Tumwater Washington USA zone 7A
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From f.lindsay@comcast.net Mon, 05 Nov 2018 12:17:03 -0800
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From: Faith Lindsay
Subject: BX 450 Closed
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 11:46:04 -0800
Hello,
Being new at this, how will I now whether or not to expect anything to arrive? Also, we are going to be away from Nov 15-30, but mail will be delivered and brought inside…
Questioningly,
Faith
> On Oct 16, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Albert Stella wrote:
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> Thanks everyone!
> Packages will go out shortly.
>
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From gastil.buhl@gmail.com Mon, 05 Nov 2018 19:17:02 -0800
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From: M Gastil-Buhl
Subject: BX 450 Closed
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 19:00:06 -0800
Hi Faith,
Albert mentioned to me on October 30th that he had not yet shipped out BX
450 but was hoping to have it in the mail that week.
To answer your more general question, how to know if we won the lottery and
will receive our request, we do not know until the padded brown envelope
arrives. I responded to four BX's this summer or fall and received nearly
all the items I requested. I do not know if that is typical or if I just
ask for species others do not desire.
I see this process as similar to growing bulbs. We plant them, we wait, and
then if they come up we know they are viable. In comparison, the BX is
fast. I watch my mailbox as eagerly as I watch pots for leaves to poke up
through the pumice.
Gastil
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From f.lindsay@comcast.net Mon, 05 Nov 2018 21:17:02 -0800
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From: Faith Lindsay
Subject: BX 450 Closed
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 20:56:36 -0800
Thank you, Gastil.
Best,
Faith
> On Nov 5, 2018, at 7:00 PM, M Gastil-Buhl wrote:
>
> Hi Faith,
> Albert mentioned to me on October 30th that he had not yet shipped out BX
> 450 but was hoping to have it in the mail that week.
>
> To answer your more general question, how to know if we won the lottery and
> will receive our request, we do not know until the padded brown envelope
> arrives. I responded to four BX's this summer or fall and received nearly
> all the items I requested. I do not know if that is typical or if I just
> ask for species others do not desire.
>
> I see this process as similar to growing bulbs. We plant them, we wait, and
> then if they come up we know they are viable. In comparison, the BX is
> fast. I watch my mailbox as eagerly as I watch pots for leaves to poke up
> through the pumice.
>
> Gastil
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From johannes-ulrich-urban@t-online.de Tue, 06 Nov 2018 17:17:02 -0800
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Subject: Penrock seeds
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 00:16:26 +0000
Dear All,
Does anybody in this forum know if Penrock Seeds from South Africa is still operating? It seems as if they do not exist any more, an email sent to their address returned.
Thank you very much
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From rrherold@gmail.com Tue, 06 Nov 2018 17:17:02 -0800
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From: Roy Herold
Subject: Penrock seeds
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 19:33:39 -0500
Uli,
I think Penroc went out of business after Charles Craib died in 2012.
Simply Indigenous had been handling the seed business for him, but it
appears that they have disappeared, too.
Checking my records, I see that I last got an order from them back in 2008.
I sincerely hope that Silverhill can keep going. I hadn't thought about
Charles when we lost Rod and Rachel, but now I realize his was another
special talent that is also gone.
--Roy
NW of Boston
Still no hard freeze here--some begonias are still blooming outside.
On 11/6/2018 7:16 PM, Johannes-Ulrich Urban wrote:
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>
> Does anybody in this forum know if Penrock Seeds from South Africa is still operating? It seems as if they do not exist any more, an email sent to their address returned.
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From Tony@plantdelights.com Tue, 06 Nov 2018 17:17:02 -0800
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From: Tony Avent
Subject: Penrock seeds
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 00:42:41 +0000
Simply Indigenous is now https://www.thesabulbcompany.co.za/
Tony Avent
Proprietor
tony@plantdelights.com
Juniper Level Botanic Garden and Plant Delights Nursery
Ph 919.772.4794/fx 919.772.4752
9241 Sauls Road, Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA
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From: pbs On Behalf Of Roy Herold
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 7:34 PM
To: Pacific Bulb Society ; Johannes-Ulrich Urban
Subject: Re: [pbs] Penrock seeds
Uli,
I think Penroc went out of business after Charles Craib died in 2012.
Simply Indigenous had been handling the seed business for him, but it
appears that they have disappeared, too.
Checking my records, I see that I last got an order from them back in 2008.
I sincerely hope that Silverhill can keep going. I hadn't thought about
Charles when we lost Rod and Rachel, but now I realize his was another
special talent that is also gone.
--Roy
NW of Boston
Still no hard freeze here--some begonias are still blooming outside.
On 11/6/2018 7:16 PM, Johannes-Ulrich Urban wrote:
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>
> Does anybody in this forum know if Penrock Seeds from South Africa is still operating? It seems as if they do not exist any more, an email sent to their address returned.
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Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 21, Issue 4
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 14:53:49 +0000
Thank you, Roy and Tony for this information!
Uli
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> Dear All,
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> Does anybody in this forum know if Penrock Seeds from South Africa is still operating? It seems as if they do not exist any more, an email sent to their address returned.
>
> Thank you very much
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> Uli,
>
> I think Penroc went out of business after Charles Craib died in 2012.
> Simply Indigenous had been handling the seed business for him, but it
> appears that they have disappeared, too.
>
> Checking my records, I see that I last got an order from them back in 2008.
>
> I sincerely hope that Silverhill can keep going. I hadn't thought about
> Charles when we lost Rod and Rachel, but now I realize his was another
> special talent that is also gone.
>
> --Roy
> NW of Boston
> Still no hard freeze here--some begonias are still blooming outside.
>
>
>
>> On 11/6/2018 7:16 PM, Johannes-Ulrich Urban wrote:
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Does anybody in this forum know if Penrock Seeds from South Africa is still operating? It seems as if they do not exist any more, an email sent to their address returned.
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 00:42:41 +0000
> From: Tony Avent
> To: Pacific Bulb Society
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Penrock seeds
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> Simply Indigenous is now https://www.thesabulbcompany.co.za/
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>
> Tony Avent
> Proprietor
> tony@plantdelights.com
> Juniper Level Botanic Garden and Plant Delights Nursery
> Ph 919.772.4794/fx 919.772.4752
> 9241 Sauls Road, Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA
> USDA Zone 7b/Winter 0-5 F/Summer 95-105F
> "Preserving, Studying, Propagating, and Sharing the World's Flora"
> [new-logo]
> Since 1988, Plant Delights Nursery is THE Source for unique, rare and native perennial plants.
>
>
> From: pbs On Behalf Of Roy Herold
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 7:34 PM
> To: Pacific Bulb Society ; Johannes-Ulrich Urban
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Penrock seeds
>
> Uli,
>
> I think Penroc went out of business after Charles Craib died in 2012.
> Simply Indigenous had been handling the seed business for him, but it
> appears that they have disappeared, too.
>
> Checking my records, I see that I last got an order from them back in 2008.
>
> I sincerely hope that Silverhill can keep going. I hadn't thought about
> Charles when we lost Rod and Rachel, but now I realize his was another
> special talent that is also gone.
>
> --Roy
> NW of Boston
> Still no hard freeze here--some begonias are still blooming outside.
>
>
>
>> On 11/6/2018 7:16 PM, Johannes-Ulrich Urban wrote:
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Does anybody in this forum know if Penrock Seeds from South Africa is still operating? It seems as if they do not exist any more, an email sent to their address returned.
>>
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From rdevries@comcast.net Thu, 08 Nov 2018 09:17:02 -0800
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From: Rimmer deVries
Subject: Paramongaia weberbaueri pollen needed
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 11:00:28 -0600
A bloom is fast emerging and i am seeking pollen from a different clone in the next week or so for seed set
If you can help, please contact me privately, off list.
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From rarebulbs@suddenlink.net Fri, 09 Nov 2018 08:17:03 -0800
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From: Diana Chapman
Subject: Bulbs on sale
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 07:44:06 -0800
Telos Rare Bulbs is having a sale: www.telosrarebulbs.com
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From rarebulbs@suddenlink.net Sun, 11 Nov 2018 08:17:02 -0800
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From: Diana Chapman
Subject: Bulbs on sale
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 07:55:50 -0800
All proceeds from the bulb sale are being donated to help the victims of
the Camp fire in Paradise, California.
I used to live very close to the town of Paradise, and knew many people
who lived there. I go back every year to that area to collect seeds,
and the native bulb enthusiasts who have bought from me undoubtedly have
bulbs that came from seed from the area. The bulbs will survive. The
community is gone.
So with the sale, you get bulbs, the victims get some help, albeit a
tiny drop in the enormous ocean of help needed. If you can, donate
directly, to the American Red Cross, or to local charities who are on
the ground helping. You can find them by Googling how to help victims
of the Camp fire.
Diana Chapman
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From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:17:02 -0800
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From: James Waddick
Subject: Bulbs on sale
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:53:13 -0600
Dear PBS friends -
I did not coordinate with Diana, but her offer is an excellent way to aid the people suffering in the CA fires, but also get you new bulbs. I am willing to bet that if you added $20 or more to your order and asked for this money to go to these same local charities she’d be very willing and you’d feel much better. And she is having a sale, too.
Jim W..
On Nov 11, 2018, at 9:55 AM, Diana Chapman wrote:
All proceeds from the bulb sale are being donated to help the victims of the Camp fire in Paradise, California.
I used to live very close to the town of Paradise, and knew many people who lived there. I go back every year to that area to collect seeds, and the native bulb enthusiasts who have bought from me undoubtedly have bulbs that came from seed from the area. The bulbs will survive. The community is gone.
So with the sale, you get bulbs, the victims get some help, albeit a tiny drop in the enormous ocean of help needed. If you can, donate directly, to the American Red Cross, or to local charities who are on the ground helping. You can find them by Googling how to help victims of the Camp fire.
Diana Chapman
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From rarebulbs@suddenlink.net Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:17:02 -0800
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From: Diana Chapman
Subject: Donations from bulb sale
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:29:05 -0800
The first donation of $300 has been sent to the North Valley Community
Foundation, specifically to help the evacuees of the fire. More orders
have come in, and I will keep you posted. Their link is:
https://www.nvcf.org/fund/camp-fire-evacuation-relief-fund/
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From elainej@gmail.com Sun, 11 Nov 2018 19:17:02 -0800
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From: Elaine Jek
Subject: Leucojum aestivum lore
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 18:43:51 -0800
I thought all flowers have a story or cultural significance associated with
them. For example, a red rose means love.
I've been trying to find a 'flower meaning' for the Leucojum aestivum,
commonly called summer snowflake or Loddon lily, and haven't found anything
on the internet. (There's tons of associations for snowdrop but not the
snowflake.)
It's the most charming thing in my garden right now.
Would anyone here know?
If no one knows, lets suggest a significance and which trait of the flower
inspired it, just for fun. Or maybe I'll come up with a story. :-)
Elaine.
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From arnold140@verizon.net Sun, 11 Nov 2018 20:17:02 -0800
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From: Arnold Trachtenberg
Subject: Leucojum aestivum lore
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 03:47:18 +0000 (UTC)
Elaine:
In John Bryan's book, Manual of Bulbs he states
"Leucojum from Greek Leukos meaning white and ion relating to violet referring to the delicate fragrance.
aestivum Greek "of summer"
ArnoldNew Jersey
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Subject: [pbs] Leucojum aestivum lore
I thought all flowers have a story or cultural significance associated with
them. For example, a red rose means love.
I've been trying to find a 'flower meaning' for the Leucojum aestivum,
commonly called summer snowflake or Loddon lily, and haven't found anything
on the internet. (There's tons of associations for snowdrop but not the
snowflake.)
It's the most charming thing in my garden right now.
Would anyone here know?
If no one knows, lets suggest a significance and which trait of the flower
inspired it, just for fun. Or maybe I'll come up with a story. :-)
Elaine.
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From jamesamckenney@verizon.net Sun, 11 Nov 2018 20:17:02 -0800
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From: Jim McKenney
Subject: Leucojum aestivum lore
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 03:48:55 +0000 (UTC)
Elaine, this does not answer your question, but I think it is interesting. The name Leucojum is derived from the classical Greek words for "white" and "violet" . But here's what I find interesting: in German, the very similar word Levkoje is used for the flower known in English as stocks (genus Matthiola). The German word is also based on the Greek "white violet". I have not found out when Levkoje was introduced in German. I didn't see it in the Fuchs herbal. The modern German word for Leucojum is Knotenblume. Jim McKenney
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From mark@marksgardenplants.com Sun, 11 Nov 2018 23:17:03 -0800
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From: "mark smyth"
Subject: Leucojum aestivum lore
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 06:50:12 -0000
St. Agnes flower in one of my books
I thought all flowers have a story or cultural significance associated with
them. For example, a red rose means love.
I've been trying to find a 'flower meaning' for the Leucojum aestivum,
commonly called summer snowflake or Loddon lily, and haven't found anything
on the internet. (There's tons of associations for snowdrop but not the
snowflake.)
It's the most charming thing in my garden right now.
Would anyone here know?
If no one knows, lets suggest a significance and which trait of the flower
inspired it, just for fun. Or maybe I'll come up with a story. :-)
Elaine.
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From peter.scaevola@gmail.com Sun, 11 Nov 2018 23:17:03 -0800
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From: "Peter Franks"
Subject: Leucojum aestivum lore
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 17:51:17 +1100
Hi Elaine,
Here's an extract from "Flowers and their Histories" [Alice M Coats, 1956,
p. 141] "Gerard and Parkinson called it [L. aestivum] Early Summer Fooles or
Summer Sottekins - a name derived from the Dutch. I do not know the
explanation, unless it is that the plant fools us by looking like a snowdrop
in May."
I've checked in Stern's "Snowdrops and Snowflakes" [1954] with no luck. Same
result from Farrer's "English Rock Garden".
I hope this is of some interest
Regards
Peter Franks
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Subject: [pbs] Leucojum aestivum lore
I thought all flowers have a story or cultural significance associated with
them. For example, a red rose means love.
I've been trying to find a 'flower meaning' for the Leucojum aestivum,
commonly called summer snowflake or Loddon lily, and haven't found anything
on the internet. (There's tons of associations for snowdrop but not the
snowflake.)
It's the most charming thing in my garden right now.
Would anyone here know?
If no one knows, lets suggest a significance and which trait of the flower
inspired it, just for fun. Or maybe I'll come up with a story. :-)
Elaine.
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From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Mon, 12 Nov 2018 05:17:02 -0800
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From: REBECCA SCHOFIELD via pbs
Subject: Plant Identification
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 13:08:53 +0000 (UTC)
Hi, can anyone help me with identification of these plants, photographed in the Cederberg Mountains - South Africa in mid-August (Winter but heading into Spring). Picture 1 (Babiana?) and Picture 2 were 10-15cm high plants and Picture 3 (Gladiolus?) is 20-30cm. Picture 2 has distinctly hairy leaves and flower bracts.Many thanks,Becky Getgood (UK)
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From: Ben Zonneveld
Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 21, Issue 8
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 14:16:51 +0100
It does not explain the leucojum question but the following might be of
interest:
My father used to name snowdrops in dutch: Vastenavond zotjes translated
shrove tuesday? fools.
I think this is because they were so foolish to appear above ground so
early in the year (My explanation). From that summer fools for leucojum
seems to be derived I have never heard it in The Netherlands. Zomer klokjes
is the usual dutch name (translated Summer bells) although they flower in
spring!
Ben Zonneveld
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> 4. Leucojum aestivum lore (Elaine Jek)
> 5. Re: Leucojum aestivum lore (Arnold Trachtenberg)
> 6. Re: Leucojum aestivum lore (Jim McKenney)
> 7. Re: Leucojum aestivum lore (mark smyth)
> 8. Re: Leucojum aestivum lore (Peter Franks)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 07:55:50 -0800
> From: Diana Chapman
> To: Pacific Bulb Society
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Bulbs on sale
> Message-ID:
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>
> All proceeds from the bulb sale are being donated to help the victims of
> the Camp fire in Paradise, California.
>
> I used to live very close to the town of Paradise, and knew many people
> who lived there.? I go back every year to that area to collect seeds,
> and the native bulb enthusiasts who have bought from me undoubtedly have
> bulbs that came from seed from the area. The bulbs will survive.? The
> community is gone.
>
> So with the sale, you get bulbs, the victims get some help, albeit a
> tiny drop in the enormous ocean of help needed.? If you can, donate
> directly, to the American Red Cross, or to local charities who are on
> the ground helping.? You can find them by Googling how to help victims
> of the Camp fire.
>
> Diana Chapman
> Telos Rare Bulbs
>
>
> > Telos Rare Bulbs is having a sale:? www.telosrarebulbs.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > pbs mailing list
> > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
> > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:53:13 -0600
> From: James Waddick
> To: Pacific Bulb Society
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Bulbs on sale
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Dear PBS friends -
>
> I did not coordinate with Diana, but her offer is an excellent way
> to aid the people suffering in the CA fires, but also get you new bulbs. I
> am willing to bet that if you added $20 or more to your order and asked for
> this money to go to these same local charities she?d be very willing and
> you?d feel much better. And she is having a sale, too.
>
> Jim W..
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 11, 2018, at 9:55 AM, Diana Chapman
> wrote:
>
> All proceeds from the bulb sale are being donated to help the victims of
> the Camp fire in Paradise, California.
>
> I used to live very close to the town of Paradise, and knew many people
> who lived there. I go back every year to that area to collect seeds, and
> the native bulb enthusiasts who have bought from me undoubtedly have bulbs
> that came from seed from the area. The bulbs will survive. The community
> is gone.
>
> So with the sale, you get bulbs, the victims get some help, albeit a tiny
> drop in the enormous ocean of help needed. If you can, donate directly, to
> the American Red Cross, or to local charities who are on the ground
> helping. You can find them by Googling how to help victims of the Camp
> fire.
>
> Diana Chapman
> Telos Rare Bulbs
>
>
> > Telos Rare Bulbs is having a sale: www.telosrarebulbs.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > pbs mailing list
> > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
> > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs
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> Dr. James Waddick
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> USA
> Phone 816-746-1949
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:29:05 -0800
> From: Diana Chapman
> To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
> Subject: [pbs] Donations from bulb sale
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> The first donation of? $300 has been sent to the North Valley Community
> Foundation, specifically to help the evacuees of the fire.? More orders
> have come in, and I will keep you posted.? Their link is:
> https://www.nvcf.org/fund/camp-fire-evacuation-relief-fund/
>
> Diana
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 18:43:51 -0800
> From: Elaine Jek
> To: Pacific Bulb Society
> Subject: [pbs] Leucojum aestivum lore
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> I thought all flowers have a story or cultural significance associated with
> them. For example, a red rose means love.
>
> I've been trying to find a 'flower meaning' for the Leucojum aestivum,
> commonly called summer snowflake or Loddon lily, and haven't found anything
> on the internet. (There's tons of associations for snowdrop but not the
> snowflake.)
>
> It's the most charming thing in my garden right now.
>
> Would anyone here know?
>
> If no one knows, lets suggest a significance and which trait of the flower
> inspired it, just for fun. Or maybe I'll come up with a story. :-)
>
> Elaine.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 03:47:18 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Arnold Trachtenberg
> To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Leucojum aestivum lore
> Message-ID: <2059506372.763604.1541994438236@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Elaine:
> In John Bryan's book, Manual of Bulbs he states
> "Leucojum from Greek Leukos meaning white and ion relating to violet
> referring to the delicate fragrance.
> aestivum? Greek "of summer"
> ArnoldNew Jersey
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elaine Jek
> To: Pacific Bulb Society
> Sent: Sun, Nov 11, 2018 9:44 pm
> Subject: [pbs] Leucojum aestivum lore
>
> I thought all flowers have a story or cultural significance associated with
> them. For example, a red rose means love.
>
> I've been trying to find a 'flower meaning' for the Leucojum aestivum,
> commonly called summer snowflake or Loddon lily, and haven't found anything
> on the internet. (There's tons of associations for snowdrop but not the
> snowflake.)
>
> It's the most charming thing in my garden right now.
>
> Would anyone here know?
>
> If no one knows, lets suggest a significance and which trait of the flower
> inspired it, just for fun. Or maybe I'll come up with a story. :-)
>
> Elaine.
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 03:48:55 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Jim McKenney
> To: Pacific Bulb Society
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Leucojum aestivum lore
> Message-ID: <987306898.696850.1541994535649@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Elaine, this does not answer your question, but I think it is interesting.
> The name Leucojum is derived from the classical Greek words for "white" and
> "violet" .?But here's what I find interesting: in German, the very similar
> word Levkoje is used for the flower known in English as stocks (genus
> Matthiola). The German word is also based on the Greek "white violet". I
> have not found out when Levkoje was introduced in German. I didn't see it
> in the Fuchs herbal. The modern German word for Leucojum is
> Knotenblume.?Jim McKenney
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 06:50:12 -0000
> From: "mark smyth"
> To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'"
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Leucojum aestivum lore
> Message-ID: <001801d47a53$f8f2e850$ead8b8f0$@marksgardenplants.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> St. Agnes flower in one of my books
>
> I thought all flowers have a story or cultural significance associated with
>
> them. For example, a red rose means love.
>
> I've been trying to find a 'flower meaning' for the Leucojum aestivum,
>
> commonly called summer snowflake or Loddon lily, and haven't found anything
>
> on the internet. (There's tons of associations for snowdrop but not the
>
> snowflake.)
>
> It's the most charming thing in my garden right now.
>
> Would anyone here know?
>
> If no one knows, lets suggest a significance and which trait of the flower
>
> inspired it, just for fun. Or maybe I'll come up with a story. :-)
>
> Elaine.
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 17:51:17 +1100
> From: "Peter Franks"
> To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'"
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Leucojum aestivum lore
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> Hi Elaine,
>
> Here's an extract from "Flowers and their Histories" [Alice M Coats, 1956,
> p. 141] "Gerard and Parkinson called it [L. aestivum] Early Summer Fooles
> or
> Summer Sottekins - a name derived from the Dutch. I do not know the
> explanation, unless it is that the plant fools us by looking like a
> snowdrop
> in May."
>
> I've checked in Stern's "Snowdrops and Snowflakes" [1954] with no luck.
> Same
> result from Farrer's "English Rock Garden".
>
> I hope this is of some interest
>
> Regards
>
> Peter Franks
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pbs On Behalf Of Elaine
> Jek
> Sent: Monday, 12 November 2018 1:44 PM
> To: Pacific Bulb Society
> Subject: [pbs] Leucojum aestivum lore
>
> I thought all flowers have a story or cultural significance associated with
> them. For example, a red rose means love.
>
> I've been trying to find a 'flower meaning' for the Leucojum aestivum,
> commonly called summer snowflake or Loddon lily, and haven't found anything
> on the internet. (There's tons of associations for snowdrop but not the
> snowflake.)
>
> It's the most charming thing in my garden right now.
>
> Would anyone here know?
>
> If no one knows, lets suggest a significance and which trait of the flower
> inspired it, just for fun. Or maybe I'll come up with a story. :-)
>
> Elaine.
> _______________________________________________
> pbs mailing list
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From elainej@gmail.com Mon, 12 Nov 2018 06:17:02 -0800
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From: Elaine Jek
Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 21, Issue 8
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 05:35:18 -0800
Thanks everyone for responding with interesting stories and articles about
Snowflakes(Leucojum aestivum)! If anyone has more info and folktales, do
please send to me elainej@gmail.com. It'll be much appreciated!
On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 5:17 AM Ben Zonneveld
wrote:
> It does not explain the leucojum question but the following might be of
> interest:
> My father used to name snowdrops in dutch: Vastenavond zotjes translated
> shrove tuesday? fools.
> I think this is because they were so foolish to appear above ground so
> early in the year (My explanation). From that summer fools for leucojum
> seems to be derived I have never heard it in The Netherlands. Zomer klokjes
> is the usual dutch name (translated Summer bells) although they flower in
> spring!
> Ben Zonneveld
>
>
> Op ma 12 nov. 2018 om 13:00 schreef <
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> > 2. Re: Bulbs on sale (James Waddick)
> > 3. Donations from bulb sale (Diana Chapman)
> > 4. Leucojum aestivum lore (Elaine Jek)
> > 5. Re: Leucojum aestivum lore (Arnold Trachtenberg)
> > 6. Re: Leucojum aestivum lore (Jim McKenney)
> > 7. Re: Leucojum aestivum lore (mark smyth)
> > 8. Re: Leucojum aestivum lore (Peter Franks)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 07:55:50 -0800
> > From: Diana Chapman
> > To: Pacific Bulb Society
> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Bulbs on sale
> > Message-ID:
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >
> > All proceeds from the bulb sale are being donated to help the victims of
> > the Camp fire in Paradise, California.
> >
> > I used to live very close to the town of Paradise, and knew many people
> > who lived there.? I go back every year to that area to collect seeds,
> > and the native bulb enthusiasts who have bought from me undoubtedly have
> > bulbs that came from seed from the area. The bulbs will survive.? The
> > community is gone.
> >
> > So with the sale, you get bulbs, the victims get some help, albeit a
> > tiny drop in the enormous ocean of help needed.? If you can, donate
> > directly, to the American Red Cross, or to local charities who are on
> > the ground helping.? You can find them by Googling how to help victims
> > of the Camp fire.
> >
> > Diana Chapman
> > Telos Rare Bulbs
> >
> >
> > > Telos Rare Bulbs is having a sale:? www.telosrarebulbs.com
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > pbs mailing list
> > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
> > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:53:13 -0600
> > From: James Waddick
> > To: Pacific Bulb Society
> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Bulbs on sale
> > Message-ID:
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > Dear PBS friends -
> >
> > I did not coordinate with Diana, but her offer is an excellent
> way
> > to aid the people suffering in the CA fires, but also get you new bulbs.
> I
> > am willing to bet that if you added $20 or more to your order and asked
> for
> > this money to go to these same local charities she?d be very willing and
> > you?d feel much better. And she is having a sale, too.
> >
> > Jim W..
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 11, 2018, at 9:55 AM, Diana Chapman
> > wrote:
> >
> > All proceeds from the bulb sale are being donated to help the victims of
> > the Camp fire in Paradise, California.
> >
> > I used to live very close to the town of Paradise, and knew many people
> > who lived there. I go back every year to that area to collect seeds, and
> > the native bulb enthusiasts who have bought from me undoubtedly have
> bulbs
> > that came from seed from the area. The bulbs will survive. The community
> > is gone.
> >
> > So with the sale, you get bulbs, the victims get some help, albeit a tiny
> > drop in the enormous ocean of help needed. If you can, donate directly,
> to
> > the American Red Cross, or to local charities who are on the ground
> > helping. You can find them by Googling how to help victims of the Camp
> > fire.
> >
> > Diana Chapman
> > Telos Rare Bulbs
> >
> >
> > > Telos Rare Bulbs is having a sale: www.telosrarebulbs.com
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > pbs mailing list
> > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
> > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs
> >
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> >
> > Dr. James Waddick
> > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd
> > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711
> > USA
> > Phone 816-746-1949
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:29:05 -0800
> > From: Diana Chapman
> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
> > Subject: [pbs] Donations from bulb sale
> > Message-ID:
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >
> > The first donation of? $300 has been sent to the North Valley Community
> > Foundation, specifically to help the evacuees of the fire.? More orders
> > have come in, and I will keep you posted.? Their link is:
> > https://www.nvcf.org/fund/camp-fire-evacuation-relief-fund/
> >
> > Diana
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 18:43:51 -0800
> > From: Elaine Jek
> > To: Pacific Bulb Society
> > Subject: [pbs] Leucojum aestivum lore
> > Message-ID:
> > > 4q0zjn8KQ@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > I thought all flowers have a story or cultural significance associated
> with
> > them. For example, a red rose means love.
> >
> > I've been trying to find a 'flower meaning' for the Leucojum aestivum,
> > commonly called summer snowflake or Loddon lily, and haven't found
> anything
> > on the internet. (There's tons of associations for snowdrop but not the
> > snowflake.)
> >
> > It's the most charming thing in my garden right now.
> >
> > Would anyone here know?
> >
> > If no one knows, lets suggest a significance and which trait of the
> flower
> > inspired it, just for fun. Or maybe I'll come up with a story. :-)
> >
> > Elaine.
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 03:47:18 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: Arnold Trachtenberg
> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Leucojum aestivum lore
> > Message-ID: <2059506372.763604.1541994438236@mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > Elaine:
> > In John Bryan's book, Manual of Bulbs he states
> > "Leucojum from Greek Leukos meaning white and ion relating to violet
> > referring to the delicate fragrance.
> > aestivum? Greek "of summer"
> > ArnoldNew Jersey
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Elaine Jek
> > To: Pacific Bulb Society
> > Sent: Sun, Nov 11, 2018 9:44 pm
> > Subject: [pbs] Leucojum aestivum lore
> >
> > I thought all flowers have a story or cultural significance associated
> with
> > them. For example, a red rose means love.
> >
> > I've been trying to find a 'flower meaning' for the Leucojum aestivum,
> > commonly called summer snowflake or Loddon lily, and haven't found
> anything
> > on the internet. (There's tons of associations for snowdrop but not the
> > snowflake.)
> >
> > It's the most charming thing in my garden right now.
> >
> > Would anyone here know?
> >
> > If no one knows, lets suggest a significance and which trait of the
> flower
> > inspired it, just for fun. Or maybe I'll come up with a story. :-)
> >
> > Elaine.
> > _______________________________________________
> > pbs mailing list
> > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
> > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 03:48:55 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: Jim McKenney
> > To: Pacific Bulb Society
> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Leucojum aestivum lore
> > Message-ID: <987306898.696850.1541994535649@mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > Elaine, this does not answer your question, but I think it is
> interesting.
> > The name Leucojum is derived from the classical Greek words for "white"
> and
> > "violet" .?But here's what I find interesting: in German, the very
> similar
> > word Levkoje is used for the flower known in English as stocks (genus
> > Matthiola). The German word is also based on the Greek "white violet". I
> > have not found out when Levkoje was introduced in German. I didn't see it
> > in the Fuchs herbal. The modern German word for Leucojum is
> > Knotenblume.?Jim McKenney
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 06:50:12 -0000
> > From: "mark smyth"
> > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'"
> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Leucojum aestivum lore
> > Message-ID: <001801d47a53$f8f2e850$ead8b8f0$@marksgardenplants.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > St. Agnes flower in one of my books
> >
> > I thought all flowers have a story or cultural significance associated
> with
> >
> > them. For example, a red rose means love.
> >
> > I've been trying to find a 'flower meaning' for the Leucojum aestivum,
> >
> > commonly called summer snowflake or Loddon lily, and haven't found
> anything
> >
> > on the internet. (There's tons of associations for snowdrop but not the
> >
> > snowflake.)
> >
> > It's the most charming thing in my garden right now.
> >
> > Would anyone here know?
> >
> > If no one knows, lets suggest a significance and which trait of the
> flower
> >
> > inspired it, just for fun. Or maybe I'll come up with a story. :-)
> >
> > Elaine.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Hi Elaine,
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> > Here's an extract from "Flowers and their Histories" [Alice M Coats,
> 1956,
> > p. 141] "Gerard and Parkinson called it [L. aestivum] Early Summer Fooles
> > or
> > Summer Sottekins - a name derived from the Dutch. I do not know the
> > explanation, unless it is that the plant fools us by looking like a
> > snowdrop
> > in May."
> >
> > I've checked in Stern's "Snowdrops and Snowflakes" [1954] with no luck.
> > Same
> > result from Farrer's "English Rock Garden".
> >
> > I hope this is of some interest
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> > From: pbs On Behalf Of Elaine
> > Jek
> > Sent: Monday, 12 November 2018 1:44 PM
> > To: Pacific Bulb Society
> > Subject: [pbs] Leucojum aestivum lore
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> > I thought all flowers have a story or cultural significance associated
> with
> > them. For example, a red rose means love.
> >
> > I've been trying to find a 'flower meaning' for the Leucojum aestivum,
> > commonly called summer snowflake or Loddon lily, and haven't found
> anything
> > on the internet. (There's tons of associations for snowdrop but not the
> > snowflake.)
> >
> > It's the most charming thing in my garden right now.
> >
> > Would anyone here know?
> >
> > If no one knows, lets suggest a significance and which trait of the
> flower
> > inspired it, just for fun. Or maybe I'll come up with a story. :-)
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From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Mon, 12 Nov 2018 07:17:03 -0800
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From: REBECCA SCHOFIELD via pbs
Subject: Picture 3 - Idenficiation of Plants
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 14:22:33 +0000 (UTC)
Dear all - here is Picture 3 of the South African Plants that dropped off my previous post. Can anyone help with identification - a Gladiolus I think?Many thanks, Becky Getgood (UK)
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From david@davidpilling.com Mon, 12 Nov 2018 08:17:02 -0800
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From: David Pilling
Subject: Picture 3 - Idenficiation of Plants
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 15:23:25 +0000
Hi,
Attached is the missing photo from Rebecca.
"Plant identification - Picture 3 (others posted previously). Please
can anyone help with identification of this South African Bulb
photographed in the Cederberg mountains in August 2018. It's 20-30cm
tall, a Gladiolus species? Thanks, Becky Getgood (UK)."
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From rarebulbs@suddenlink.net Mon, 12 Nov 2018 08:17:02 -0800
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From: Diana Chapman
Subject: Bulbs on Sale
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 08:07:37 -0800
The total from the bulb sales so far is $657.50. A very big thank you
to those who gave extra on their orders (and thank you Jim for
suggesting it). I have just donated another $300 to the North Valley
Community Foundation for a total of $600 donated so far. I still have
bulbs available.
Diana
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From totototo@telus.net Mon, 12 Nov 2018 10:17:02 -0800
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From: Rodger Whitlock
Subject: Leucojum aestivum lore
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:25:20 -0800
On 11/12/2018 04:00 AM, pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net wrote:
> I thought all flowers have a story or cultural significance associated with
> them. For example, a red rose means love.
You have thought wrong. Does the chickweed flower, for example, have
some tale associated with it?
Modern writers have grossly exaggerated just how prevalent this was, to
the subtext "look how crazy those Victorians were!"
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From david@davidpilling.com Mon, 12 Nov 2018 11:17:02 -0800
Message-Id: <6b8a1a7d-7e51-18a2-e9fc-6071f214f0df@davidpilling.com>
From: David Pilling
Subject: Picture 3 - Idenficiation of Plants
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 18:37:40 +0000
Hi,
On 12/11/2018 15:23, David Pilling wrote:
> "Plant identification - Picture 3 (others posted previously). Please
> can anyone help with identification of this South African Bulb
Arnold offers "Gladiolus Venustus"
We have a wiki page for it:
https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Gladiolus_venustus
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From msittner@mcn.org Mon, 12 Nov 2018 11:17:02 -0800
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From: Mary Sue Ittner
Subject: Picture 3 - Idenfication of Plants
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 10:50:20 -0800
I was going to suggest that as well. The Cederberg field guide suggests
that the pink form of Gladiolus venustus stands in dense colonies in the
Clanwilliam area and flowers July to September. The Babianas I find
tricky to identify from photos. There are still some of my photos
unidentified here:
https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/BabianaFive#spp
I'll get out the Babiana monograph and check it out later if no one else
comes up with ideas.
Mary Sue
On 11/12/2018 10:37 AM, David Pilling wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 12/11/2018 15:23, David Pilling wrote:
>> "Plant identification - Picture 3 (others posted previously). Please
>> can anyone help with identification of this South African Bulb
> Arnold offers "Gladiolus Venustus"
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From cynthiasbulbs@hotmail.com Mon, 12 Nov 2018 11:17:02 -0800
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From: Cynthia Mueller
Subject: Leucojum aestivum lore
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 19:00:40 +0000
Chickweed has an appropriate name - it is a wonderful food for chicks, turkey poults and young seed-eating birds. I used to feed masses of it to canary pairs and they would feed broods of up to six youngsters with only the addition of some sieved hardboiled egg yolk! Probably few of us remember the days before commercial chick starters. Before this, it was chickweed or diced, scalded lettuce strips. People can eat chickweed, too: remember this if Society crumbles. So the name “chickweed” was just what it sounds like...a great food for chicks. -Cynthia Mueller
Cynthia W Mueller
> On Nov 12, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Rodger Whitlock wrote:
>
>> On 11/12/2018 04:00 AM, pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net wrote:
>>
>> I thought all flowers have a story or cultural significance associated with
>> them. For example, a red rose means love.
>
> You have thought wrong. Does the chickweed flower, for example, have some tale associated with it?
>
> Modern writers have grossly exaggerated just how prevalent this was, to the subtext "look how crazy those Victorians were!"
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From msittner@mcn.org Mon, 12 Nov 2018 17:17:02 -0800
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From: Mary Sue Ittner
Subject: Plant Identification
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 17:02:48 -0800
I've looked at the Babiana monograph and these are my guesses. Hopefully
someone else will also have some ideas. I think the first one is either
Babiana ambigua or perhaps Babiana geniculata, although that species is
rare. The photo doesn't show the tube, the bracts, or the flower parts,
all important features to figure out the genus. I think the second one
could be Babiana ecklonii.
Mary Sue
On 11/12/2018 5:08 AM, REBECCA SCHOFIELD via pbs wrote:
> Hi, can anyone help me with identification of these plants, photographed in the Cederberg Mountains - South Africa in mid-August (Winter but heading into Spring). Picture 1 (Babiana?) and Picture 2 were 10-15cm high plants and Picture 3 (Gladiolus?) is 20-30cm. Picture 2 has distinctly hairy leaves and flower bracts.Many thanks,Becky Getgood (UK)
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From kathleen.sayce@gmail.com Tue, 13 Nov 2018 15:17:02 -0800
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From: Kathleen Sayce
Subject: new seed collection company
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 15:14:24 -0800
A young man in Longview, WA has started a wild seed collection business, Reliance Seeds, see his fall 2018 list at https://www.relianceseed.com/packets
Cheers,
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From janemcgary@earthlink.net Tue, 13 Nov 2018 16:17:06 -0800
Message-Id: <8de8ec31-b428-15ef-f3e0-8ec6e2d6ab8d@earthlink.net>
From: Jane McGary
Subject: Fwd: PBS website contact:Japanese Clivia Seed list
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 15:33:15 -0800
If someone can help with this information, please write directly to gary
Conquest at the address below.
Thanks, Jane
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Subject: PBS website contact:Japanese Clivia Seed list
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 22:58:00 +0000 (GMT)
From: Apache
Reply-To: Gary Conquest
To: janemcgary@earthlink.net
This is a message from the PBS website for janemcgary.
Good morning
Could you please advise me where I can find out about obtaining Clivia seeds from Japanese Clivia breeders?
Many thanks
Gary Conquest
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From janemcgary@earthlink.net Tue, 13 Nov 2018 16:17:06 -0800
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From: Jane McGary
Subject: new seed collection company
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 15:40:51 -0800
I just looked at this. The offering is, for now, very small, but one
hopes it will increase. I've met the proprietor, who comes to our NARGS
chapter sometimes. The only surprises for me were the presence of Iris
tenuis -- a narrow endemic growing near my former home, the only western
American member of the crested iris section, and less showy than the
others -- and the discovery that somebody has renamed Mimulus lewisii as
Erythranthe; well, it is bright pink, and a delightful short-lived
perennial usually seen in moist, mobile volcanic slopes.
Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon
On 11/13/2018 3:14 PM, Kathleen Sayce wrote:
> A young man in Longview, WA has started a wild seed collection business, Reliance Seeds, see his fall 2018 list at https://www.relianceseed.com/packets
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From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 14 Nov 2018 03:17:02 -0800
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From: REBECCA SCHOFIELD via pbs
Subject: Ref. Identification of South African Bulbs
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 10:15:37 +0000 (UTC)
Thank you to Mary Sue and David for your help identifying the South African bulbs. Kind regards, Becky Getgood
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From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:17:02 -0800
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From: Steve Evans via pbs
Subject: Cahaba lily
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 20:10:41 +0000 (UTC)
I'm in the middle of a discussion on this plant. If I Google this I get Hymenocallis coronaria. Referring to the PBS page for this genus I don't find this species but find Hymennocallis lirosme as the Southern native. I'm not finding them listed as synonymous. Can someone offer some clarification?
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From david@davidpilling.com Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:17:02 -0800
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From: David Pilling
Subject: Cahaba lily
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 21:42:46 +0000
Hi Steve,
On 15/11/2018 20:10, Steve Evans via pbs wrote:
> I'm in the middle of a discussion on this plant. If I Google this I get Hymenocallis coronaria. Referring to the PBS page for this genus I don't find this species but find Hymennocallis lirosme as the Southern native. I'm not finding them listed as synonymous. Can someone offer some clarification?
I don't read the wiki page [1] as making any connection between H.
coronaria and H. lirosme (other than bloom time).
You might find some interesting info in previous list postings about H.
coronaria:
https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbslist/2018-November/#q=Hymenocallis+coronaria
e.g. Jim Shields says "but is very rare now and
likely to go extinct one of these years."
[1] https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Hymenocallis
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From rarebulbs@suddenlink.net Fri, 16 Nov 2018 08:17:02 -0800
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From: Diana Chapman
Subject: Bulbs on Sale
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 08:08:29 -0800
I have been able to send $780 to aid the victims of the Camp Fire. The
sale is still on, and I am going to look around to see if I can add
bulbs to the list, so keep your eye on the sale list. It is a permanent
feature of the web site, and will change.
If you can, please donate to help the victims. The scale of this
tragedy is hard to imagine. I used to live there, and know the area
well, and knew many people who have lost their homes. More than 50,000
people are evacuated and many are living in tents and the charities that
are helping them and feeding them are spread very thin. Virtually all
the established charities are involved, Salvation Army, United Way,
American Red Cross, etc. I am donating to the North Valley Community
Foundation, www.nvcf.org. A donation of even $5 or $10 can make a
difference. Please specify that the money is for the Camp victims.
Many thanks to all of you who bought the sale bulbs. Your purchase is
helping people in desperate need.
Diana
Telos Rare Bulbs
> The total from the bulb sales so far is $657.50. A very big thank you
> to those who gave extra on their orders (and thank you Jim for
> suggesting it). I have just donated another $300 to the North Valley
> Community Foundation for a total of $600 donated so far. I still have
> bulbs available.
>
> Diana
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From rarebulbs@suddenlink.net Fri, 16 Nov 2018 09:17:02 -0800
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From: Diana Chapman
Subject: Bulbs on Sale
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 08:58:23 -0800
I have just added more items to the sale list. The Hippeastrums will be
offered for a limited time, they are strictly to raise funds. Other
bulbs, like the Crinums are in very limited quantities. I am getting
e-mails asking for the list, it is on the web site:
www.telosrarebulbs.com, there is a link on the home page.
Diana
> I have been able to send $780 to aid the victims of the Camp Fire. The
> sale is still on, and I am going to look around to see if I can add
> bulbs to the list, so keep your eye on the sale list. It is a
> permanent feature of the web site, and will change.
>
> If you can, please donate to help the victims. The scale of this
> tragedy is hard to imagine. I used to live there, and know the area
> well, and knew many people who have lost their homes. More than
> 50,000 people are evacuated and many are living in tents and the
> charities that are helping them and feeding them are spread very
> thin. Virtually all the established charities are involved, Salvation
> Army, United Way, American Red Cross, etc. I am donating to the North
> Valley Community Foundation, www.nvcf.org. A donation of even $5 or
> $10 can make a difference. Please specify that the money is for the
> Camp victims.
>
> Many thanks to all of you who bought the sale bulbs. Your purchase is
> helping people in desperate need.
>
> Diana
> Telos Rare Bulbs
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From msittner@mcn.org Fri, 16 Nov 2018 10:17:03 -0800
Message-Id: <8921b101-dc6d-76f0-786a-383ad0e7d931@mcn.org>
From: Mary Sue Ittner
Subject: Cahaba lily
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 09:55:41 -0800
From Plants of the World online:
//
1. /Hymenocallis coronaria/(Leconte) Kunth
This species is accepted, and its native range is South Carolina to
Alabama.
1. /Hymenocallis liriosme/(Raf.) Shinners
This species is accepted, and its native range is Oklahoma to Alabama.
On 11/15/2018 12:10 PM, Steve Evans via pbs wrote:
> I'm in the middle of a discussion on this plant. If I Google this I get Hymenocallis coronaria. Referring to the PBS page for this genus I don't find this species but find Hymennocallis lirosme as the Southern native. I'm not finding them listed as synonymous. Can someone offer some clarification?
>
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From fosterjp@cox.net Fri, 16 Nov 2018 12:17:01 -0800
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From: Jim Foster
Subject: Bulb orientation
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 12:08:10 -0800
I am putting many of my bulbs into the ground and was wondering if the orientation of my Boophone and Brunsvigia is important. I have not noticed any effects when in pots.
Do they have any particular orientation in the field with respect to the sun?
Jim
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From kimcmich@hotmail.com Fri, 16 Nov 2018 15:17:02 -0800
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From: Kipp McMichael
Subject: Bulb orientation
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 22:54:13 +0000
Greetings,
The distichous Boophane (all of them) and Brunsvigia (only some) will naturally orient themselves perpendicular to the sun - as if they were looking at the sun with the 2 runs of leaves outstretched like arms. So plant them with the line between their 2 runs of leaves pointing at the sun at noon in summer.
The rosette-leaved Brunsvigia require no particular orientation but they they too tend to grow, over time, so that the bases of their leaves (which still emerge in distichous fashion) are perpendicular to the sun.
I have limited experience with the prostrate, 2-leaved Brunsvigia. They do not seem to have a preferred orientation.
-| on behalf of Jim Foster
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To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
Subject: [pbs] Bulb orientation
I am putting many of my bulbs into the ground and was wondering if the orientation of my Boophone and Brunsvigia is important. I have not noticed any effects when in pots.
Do they have any particular orientation in the field with respect to the sun?
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From rarebulbs@suddenlink.net Sat, 17 Nov 2018 08:17:02 -0800
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From: Diana Chapman
Subject: Bulbs on Sale
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 07:49:28 -0800
Dear Friends:
The response to the second offering of sale bulbs has been wonderful.
Several people sent an extra donation for the fire victims. The total
amount from the second offering is now at $735.00. I have also raised
$210 from dog related activities to donate for animal rescue relative to
the fire. The total donated from the bulb sales is $1516.00.
I will be busy tomorrow packing orders, and hope to have most of them
out on Monday.
Thank you again, your purchase is helping people in desperate need.
Diana
> I have just added more items to the sale list. The Hippeastrums will
> be offered for a limited time, they are strictly to raise funds.
> Other bulbs, like the Crinums are in very limited quantities. I am
> getting e-mails asking for the list, it is on the web site:
> www.telosrarebulbs.com, there is a link on the home page.
>
> Diana
>
>
>> I have been able to send $780 to aid the victims of the Camp Fire.
>> The sale is still on, and I am going to look around to see if I can
>> add bulbs to the list, so keep your eye on the sale list. It is a
>> permanent feature of the web site, and will change.
>>
>> If you can, please donate to help the victims. The scale of this
>> tragedy is hard to imagine. I used to live there, and know the area
>> well, and knew many people who have lost their homes. More than
>> 50,000 people are evacuated and many are living in tents and the
>> charities that are helping them and feeding them are spread very
>> thin. Virtually all the established charities are involved,
>> Salvation Army, United Way, American Red Cross, etc. I am donating
>> to the North Valley Community Foundation, www.nvcf.org. A donation of
>> even $5 or $10 can make a difference. Please specify that the money
>> is for the Camp victims.
>>
>> Many thanks to all of you who bought the sale bulbs. Your purchase
>> is helping people in desperate need.
>>
>> Diana
>> Telos Rare Bulbs
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From fosterjp@cox.net Sun, 18 Nov 2018 07:17:03 -0800
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From: Jim Foster
Subject: And thank you Diana
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 07:03:16 -0800
For your thoughtful service to that stricken community.
Jim Foster
Santa Barbara
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From rarebulbs@suddenlink.net Mon, 19 Nov 2018 08:17:02 -0800
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From: Diana Chapman
Subject: Bulbs on Sale
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 07:47:05 -0800
Dear Friends:
Most orders will be shipped out today. I have another $350 to send to
the North Valley Community Foundation. They are saying on their web
site that the donations are going to be used to help the victims after
the current crisis is over, helping them put their lives back together.
There are many charities and local businesses involved in providing for
the evacuees immediate needs, such as clothing, food and medicines.
My heartfelt thanks to all who have participated in the sale, and
especially to those who sent extra donations. Be assured that every
cent is going to the victims.
Diana
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From rarebulbs@suddenlink.net Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:17:02 -0800
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From: Diana Chapman
Subject: Bulbs on Sale
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:13:44 -0800
I have just received a flurry of sale orders through the mail. These
will be going out after Thanksgiving. We are up to almost $2000 for the
fire victims so far, not including the new orders.
Diana
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From clcox@ucdavis.edu Tue, 20 Nov 2018 06:17:02 -0800
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From: Chad Cox
Subject: Bulbs on sale
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 05:19:18 -0800
Thank YOU Diana for being so kind and generous. You have some good karma coming your way.
Chad Cox in Elverta CA
Sent from my iPhone
Chad L. Cox, Ph.D.
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From rarebulbs@suddenlink.net Wed, 21 Nov 2018 06:17:03 -0800
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From: Diana Chapman
Subject: Paradise fire update
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 05:21:47 -0800
Dear Friends:
I have received e-mails asking about the progress of the efforts to help
the victims of the Paradise fire in California, so I though I would fill
people in with the little information I have. This is a bit off topic
for the bulb forum, but so many have participated in the fund raising, I
think it is appropriate.
I have been so touched by the response of bulb enthusiasts. Many people
sent extra money to donate to the fire victims, some as much as $100. A
customer in England sent me an order and an additional $65 to donate. So
kind, to care about people so far away. I have counted up about $2000
so far, but I have a stack of orders on my desk that haven't been
tallied, so it is more than that. The charity I am sending the money to
will use the funds to help people get back on their feet, there are many
charities and businesses taking care of their immediate needs, but
housing is going to be a terrible problem, following on from the fires
in the Redding area in August. Redding is about 80 miles distant from
Paradise and the Carr fire there destroyed over 1000 homes.
As far as blaming environmentalists for the fire. First, we have had no
rain up until now. By late November usually we have had several
significant storms. Second, the area where the fire started I know
intimately, I go there to gather seeds of Erythronium multiscapoideum,
Pulga form. It is very steep rocky terrain, very sparsely vegetated, and
has power lines crossing the area. Those same power lines have caused
fires in the past. About ten years ago three or four pylons came down
in a wind storm in that area. PG&E, the utility company, has been sued
several times for fires started by poor maintenance. It is a fact that
there was a downed power line at Pulga that started the fire, then
another incident that started another fire nearby. The dryness and the
wind then caused the fire to spread rapidly.
Paradise was uniquely vulnerable. It was an old community, with
neighborhoods that grew haphazardly, with narrow lanes in some areas
where two cars could hardly pass. There was a very high proportion of
low income seniors, many who lived in trailer parks, some with
disabilities and many who would not have had transportation.
Rain is coming in today which hopefully will put an end to the fires.
There won't be mudslides in the Paradise area, Paradise was mostly built
on a plateau.
Again, my heartfelt thanks to all who sent in orders and donated.
Diana
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From kathleen.sayce@gmail.com Wed, 21 Nov 2018 09:17:02 -0800
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From: Kathleen Sayce
Subject: Bulbs on sale
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 08:43:18 -0800
Diana noted this foundation’s fundraising is going to recovery.
I am on the board of a community foundation, and work on disaster preparation for this and other foundations in my area. There are 3 stages: relief, recovery and rebuilding. Community foundations come in on the latter two steps, recovery and rebuilding—and these are critical steps for communities getting back on their feet, or in this case, coming back in to existence, for Paradise, CA.
Thank you, Diana, for promoting donations through your own business!
Kathleen
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From kimcmich@hotmail.com Sun, 25 Nov 2018 12:17:03 -0800
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From: Kipp McMichael
Subject: Impromptu SX - large Amaryllid sp
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 19:37:24 +0000
Greetings,
Fall house projects have distracted me from timely collecting and sending seeds of my large Amaryllids species to the SX. Now I see many of them have started sprouting already so there's no time to delay.
In the interest of getting these to people who can get them in the ground ASAP, I'm offering this SX directly. I ask that you send a small donation, $2 per seed lot, to the BS for whatever you order.
Many of these seeds are already putiing out a root. They will still grow fine but they need to be potted carefully (make a hole to accommodate the root and plant the seed at the surface) and immediately upon receipt.
Here's what I have:
Boophone haemanthoides
Boophone disticha
Brunsvigia josephinae
Brunsvigia gregaria (few)
Please send your desired taxa and your shipping address and I'll send these out tomorrow. PLEASE RESPOND PRIVATELY (kimcmich@hotmail.com) AND QUICKLY as these seeds are already growing and I want to ship them all out by Monday or Tuesday.
-|
From: Kipp McMichael
Subject: Impromptu SX - large Amaryllid sp
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 22:37:23 +0000
Greetings,
I've gotten enough requests to exhaust all the seeds except for B. josephinae. I have more of that left.
I'll send out an email, with what you will receive and the suggested donation, to all who requested seeds this evening. I'll drop them in the mail tomorrow.
-| on behalf of Kipp McMichael
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 11:37 AM
To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
Subject: [pbs] Impromptu SX - large Amaryllid sp
Greetings,
Fall house projects have distracted me from timely collecting and sending seeds of my large Amaryllids species to the SX. Now I see many of them have started sprouting already so there's no time to delay.
In the interest of getting these to people who can get them in the ground ASAP, I'm offering this SX directly. I ask that you send a small donation, $2 per seed lot, to the BS for whatever you order.
Many of these seeds are already putiing out a root. They will still grow fine but they need to be potted carefully (make a hole to accommodate the root and plant the seed at the surface) and immediately upon receipt.
Here's what I have:
Boophone haemanthoides
Boophone disticha
Brunsvigia josephinae
Brunsvigia gregaria (few)
Please send your desired taxa and your shipping address and I'll send these out tomorrow. PLEASE RESPOND PRIVATELY (kimcmich@hotmail.com) AND QUICKLY as these seeds are already growing and I want to ship them all out by Monday or Tuesday.
-|
From: "XYZ in Virginia" <867ykcor768@cox.net>
Subject: Helicodiceros muscivorus Tubers Wanted
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 19:58:12 -0500
Hello All. I'm a new member of the PBS and I have a question about a plant
I'd like to acquire. I've searched all of the suppliers listed on the web
and currently none are available at this time. The plant is Helicodiceros
muscivorus. I'd like to obtain a few tubers of this species. I'd like to
grow one for myself and then donate another to the local college greenhouse
here in Williamsburg VA, where I am a volunteer. It would make a great
addition to their plant collection. (I've donated several species of
stapeliads to them and the stinky flowers are a big hit with students and
visitors.) Does anyone have any extra tubers of this plant available? I
would be happy to make a donation to the BX/BS, or other form of
reimbursement, especially for postage and handling.
Thank you for any help or advice you can provide me.
Regards,
Bernie
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From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Sun, 25 Nov 2018 19:17:02 -0800
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From: James Waddick
Subject: Helicodiceros muscivorus Tubers Wanted
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 20:57:11 -0600
Dear Bernie,
Telos Rare Bulbs usually has a few available. Since the owner Diana Chapman is also organizing donations for the victims of the Camp Fire Disaster in Northern California, this might be a good time to tempt her with an order and a generous donation. You can see her site here:
http://www.telosrarebulbs.com/Arums.html
and follow contact info on the botom of the page.
Best Jim W.
On Nov 25, 2018, at 6:58 PM, XYZ in Virginia <867ykcor768@cox.net> wrote:
Hello All. I'm a new member of the PBS and I have a question about a plant
I'd like to acquire. I've searched all of the suppliers listed on the web
and currently none are available at this time. The plant is Helicodiceros
muscivorus. I'd like to obtain a few tubers of this species. I'd like to
grow one for myself and then donate another to the local college greenhouse
here in Williamsburg VA, where I am a volunteer. It would make a great
addition to their plant collection. (I've donated several species of
stapeliads to them and the stinky flowers are a big hit with students and
visitors.) Does anyone have any extra tubers of this plant available? I
would be happy to make a donation to the BX/BS, or other form of
reimbursement, especially for postage and handling.
Thank you for any help or advice you can provide me.
Regards,
Bernie
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From arnold140@verizon.net Mon, 26 Nov 2018 03:17:02 -0800
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From: Arnold Trachtenberg
Subject: Impromptu SX - large Amaryllid sp
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 11:14:31 +0000 (UTC)
I'm sure I speak for the Board in thanking Kipp for his generous donation.
You can send the recommended amounts via PayPal to Arnold140 @verizon.net or via check to
PBS c/oArnold Trachtenberg140 Lakeview avenueLeonia, NJ 07605.
Please mark both as a "Kipp Donation"
Thanks again.
Arnold
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From: Kipp McMichael
To: Pacific Bulb Society
Sent: Sun, Nov 25, 2018 5:37 pm
Subject: Re: [pbs] Impromptu SX - large Amaryllid sp
Greetings,
I've gotten enough requests to exhaust all the seeds except for B. josephinae. I have more of that left.
I'll send out an email, with what you will receive and the suggested donation, to all who requested seeds this evening. I'll drop them in the mail tomorrow.
-|
From: Amaryllis Study Group via pbs
Subject: 2 C seed irrigation liquid
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 14:22:25 +0000 (UTC)
This is a good time to repeat the 2 C formula .I developed this natural, effective, even edible fungicide about 20 years ago because of damp off, wilts, & especially seeds that died from shipping problems. 1 teabag regular tea 2 teabags chamomille (flowers) tea 2 plastic 2 liter soda bottles 1 teapot of water
Wash pot & soda bottles especially inside & out of necks , caps, & threads. Heat water, put in teabags, turn off heat.When tea cools to room temperature, pour equal amounts into the 2 soda bottles and fill to the top with water. Use this 2 C in a mist sprayer for soil surface and gently foreign bottom irrigation of pots and trays instead of water. It's been used on all sorts of bulbs seeds, tomatoes, other veggies, a& flowers. It prevents wilts and actually grows seedlings faster in 3 to 6 months. Hippeastrum 25 % to 30 % to be specific.
Come to the Amaryllis Festival in central FL on Saturday December 8 at the historic Henry Nehrling Palm Cottage Gardens in Gotha next to Winter Gardens just west of Orlando. We will have European, South African, & Australian style hippeastrum even a tiny curly exotic soft yellow, the species papilio, and a few rare Thai Thai with its balloon buds, tiger claw opening, & pink - white - yellow - green color zones !!! I am the man that teaches growing fancy hybrid hippeastrum in live oak trees of FL and the gulf coast states and in the pygmy date palms of south FL. Help us celebrate. The historic Henry Nehrling Palm Gardens is on line and easy to get to. Bill Warrenamstgrp@yahoo.comSent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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From xerantheum@gmail.com Mon, 26 Nov 2018 15:17:03 -0800
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From: Nhu Nguyen
Subject: Impromptu SX - large Amaryllid sp
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 12:36:07 -1000
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 1:14 AM Arnold Trachtenberg
wrote:
> I'm sure I speak for the Board in thanking Kipp for his generous donation.
Absolutely. Many thanks, Kipp!
Nhu
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From bulbexchange@gmail.com Mon, 26 Nov 2018 16:17:02 -0800
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From: Albert Stella
Subject: Pacific Bulb Society BX 451
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 18:34:48 -0500
Dear All,
The items listed below have been donated by our members and friends to be
shared.
If you are interested in obtaining some of them, please email me PRIVATELY
at:
bulbexchange@gmail.com
Include "BX 451” in the subject line.
SPECIFY THE ITEM NUMBERS. DO NOT SPECIFY QUANTITIES. PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR
SNAIL MAIL ADDRESS, too. Availability is based on a first come, first served
system. When you receive your seeds/bulbs you will find, included with
them, a statement of how much money you owe (usually $2.00 – $5.00 per share
of seeds or bulbs + postage and packaging charges), and instructions about
how to pay. PAYMENT IS DUE AS SOON AS YOU RECEIVE YOUR PACKAGE.
Many of you are subscribers to this pbs elist which is free, but are
not members
of the Pacific Bulb Society which has a yearly membership charge.
THIS BX OFFERING IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO UP-TO-DATE MEMBERS of the Pacific
Bulb Society. If you are not a member, consider joining so that you can take
advantage of future offers such as this. Go to our website: <
http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/>
If you would like to donate seeds or bulbs/corms to the PBS, please send
CLEAN, clearly labeled plant materials to:
Albert Stella
4403 Graceland Ct.
Raleigh, NC 27606
USA
Donors will receive credit on the BX for the cost of postage for their
donations.
Non US donors should contact Al for instructions before sending seeds.
ALL ORDERS TO THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS ONLY.
Al’s email address:
bulbexchange@gmail.com
Do not hit the reply tab or you will reply to all PBS members by mistake.
I WILL REPLY TO YOU WITHIN 24 HRS OF MY RECEIPT OF YOUR ORDER. IF
YOU DO NOT HEAR FROM ME, TRY AGAIN !!
From Cody Hincliff
1. Herbertia lahue - PBS SX7
2. Herbertia lahue - PBS SX8
3. Moraea bellendenii
4. Moraea polyanthos
5. Oxalis fabifolia
6. Oxalis flava
7. Sparaxis metelerkampiae
8. Sparaxis parviflora
9. Tritonia dubia
10. Tritonia x
11. Tritonia x
12. Tritonia hyalina (T. crocata?)
From Jim Barton
13. Calochortus vestae
14. Dichelostemma volubile
15. Brodiaea elegans
16. Calochortus venustus
17. Calochortus superbus? C. superbus x luteus?
18. Triteleia hyacinthina
19. Triteleia laxa
From Michael Kent (all seeds, ALL OPEN POLLINATED)
20. Habranthus tubispathus
21. Zephyranthes citrina
22. Zephyranthes minima
23. Zephyranthes x
From Joyce Miller
24. Crocus sp. - purple
From Rimmer deVries
25. Lachenalia pallida - Northern purple/mauve form
26. Albuca sp. 'Plettenberg Bay' - likes sand and deep planting
27. Othonna sp.? MV7454 Simonviel, white
28. Hippeastrum blossfeldiae
29. Hippeastrum striatum 'Cianorte' JES2146
30. Phaedranassa viridiflora ex Telos
31. Hippeastrum papilio
32. Caliphruria subedentata
From Terry Laskiewicz (all seed)
33. Haemanthus coccineus
34. Crinum macowanii - These have germinated and produced little bulbs
From Robert Werra
35. Moraea ciliata - tall
36. Moraea ciliata - short
THANK YOU Cody, Mike, Jim, Joyce, Rimmer, Terry and Bob!!!
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From jane@deskhenge.com Mon, 26 Nov 2018 17:17:02 -0800
Message-Id: <0fb9bb89-b034-9ba9-0f9f-3145b9e85dba@deskhenge.com>
From: Jane Sargent
Subject: Allium thunbergii
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 19:56:30 -0500
I now have two pots of Allium thunbergii "Ozawa," each about gallon.
They have many cut-off little stems and a few thready green leaves that
look as if they have been frozen. These were brought to me from northern
Vermont, so freezing is likely. I live in central Massachusetts, more or
less zone 5b. Tonight's chilled rain is washing away the week's snow. It
did get down to 6`F last week, but now it's 40`, and while there may be
some ground freezing, I don't think it's solid yet.
Should I dig two good holes and plant these puppies, or is it too late
in the season? Do I overwinter them in their pots outside, and if so,
under the roof overhang or open to the sky? Do I just put them in the
kitchen next to the fishtank and let them wait until Spring? If I do
that, should they get watered?
Sometimes our cooking onions sprout in the kitchen cabinet in the
winter, if ignored. Ozawa is just an onion, if the truth be told, but it
isn't clear what to do next with it.
Jane Sargent
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From info@beautifulblooms.ab.ca Mon, 26 Nov 2018 21:17:02 -0800
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From: "Linda M Foulis"
Subject: Allium thunbergii
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 21:18:34 -0700
Hi Jane,
I live border line Zone 2-3. I would dig a hole and plant the pots,
transfer them to ground in the spring. My ground isn't frozen yet, I sunk a
pot a couple days ago, and we've had snow pretty much since September. Oh
to be in zone 5.
Linda Foulis
Zone 2-3
Full blown winter here.
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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 5:57 PM
To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
Subject: [pbs] Allium thunbergii
I now have two pots of Allium thunbergii "Ozawa," each about gallon.
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From kenttoto@gmail.com Mon, 26 Nov 2018 21:17:02 -0800
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From: Michael Kent
Subject: BX 451 item number 23 (Zephyranthes x)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 23:38:30 -0500
All,
Bulb (seed parent) was received from recent BX labeled as Z. minima.
Developing blooms looked exactly like Z. tubispathus (see David Pilling's
first photo on PBS wiki) until just prior to opening, at which point, all
the copper color on the exterior vanished. Bloom opened as pale yellow -
see attached photo.
Seeds sent in are from various blooms over the summer. All followed the
above pattern. All were open pollinated with various other rain lilies
(both Habranthus and Zephyranthes) blooming in near proximity.
Mike
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From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Tue, 27 Nov 2018 08:17:02 -0800
Message-Id:
From: James Waddick
Subject: Off Topic Reliance Seed
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 10:13:26 -0600
Dear PBS friends,
There was a recent mention of new seed offering from Reliance Seed on this list (https://www.relianceseed.com )
I am only interested in obtaining seed of Iris tenuis, but didn’t want to meet the minimum order requirement with shipping over $20. Has anyone ordered this and have extra seed I can buy or anyone thinking about ordering and I can add 1 seed packet? Appreciate any assistance on this small purchase.
Thanks. Please email directly jwaddick@kc.rr.com Jim W.
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From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Tue, 27 Nov 2018 09:17:03 -0800
Message-Id: <603E73B6-4D00-48ED-8FD3-51838767399B@kc.rr.com>
From: James Waddick
Subject: Allium thunbergii
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 10:17:17 -0600
Jane A thunbergii is very hardy. If you can still dig into your soil, I’d simply unpot them and plant them outside now.
You can throw a couple handful of leaves or pine straw on top and if worried add an inverted 2 gallon pot over them so they settle in a bit more slowly.
Should be an easy transition from the cold of northern VT to the ‘warm’ of central MA Good luck Jim W.
On Nov 26, 2018, at 6:56 PM, Jane Sargent wrote:
I now have two pots of Allium thunbergii "Ozawa," each about gallon. They have many cut-off little stems and a few thready green leaves that look as if they have been frozen. These were brought to me from northern Vermont, so freezing is likely. I live in central Massachusetts, more or less zone 5b. Tonight's chilled rain is washing away the week's snow. It did get down to 6`F last week, but now it's 40`, and while there may be some ground freezing, I don't think it's solid yet.
Should I dig two good holes and plant these puppies, or is it too late in the season? Do I overwinter them in their pots outside, and if so, under the roof overhang or open to the sky? Do I just put them in the kitchen next to the fishtank and let them wait until Spring? If I do that, should they get watered?
Sometimes our cooking onions sprout in the kitchen cabinet in the winter, if ignored. Ozawa is just an onion, if the truth be told, but it isn't clear what to do next with it.
Jane Sargent
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From 867ykcor768@cox.net Tue, 27 Nov 2018 10:17:02 -0800
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From: "XYZ in Virginia" <867ykcor768@cox.net>
Subject: Helicodiceros muscivorus Tubers Still Wanted
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 13:16:38 -0500
Hi Jim,
Thanks for your suggestion. I already placed an order for bulbs with Telos
on Nov. 17 in response to the Camp Fire disaster. Unfortunately, Telos did
not have Helicodiceros muscivorus available at that time. That's why I
appealed to the PBS general membership on the List. I'll keep a watch on
the Telos website for availability in the future.
In the meantime, I'm still interested in obtaining some Helicodiceros
muscivorus tubers if anyone has any available.
Thanks again,
Bernie
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From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of
James Waddick
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 9:57 PM
To: Pacific Bulb Society
Subject: Re: [pbs] Helicodiceros muscivorus Tubers Wanted
Dear Bernie,
Telos Rare Bulbs usually has a few available. Since the owner Diana
Chapman is also organizing donations for the victims of the Camp Fire
Disaster in Northern California, this might be a good time to tempt her with
an order and a generous donation. You can see her site here:
http://www.telosrarebulbs.com/Arums.html
and follow contact info on the botom of the page.
Best Jim W.
On Nov 25, 2018, at 6:58 PM, XYZ in Virginia <867ykcor768@cox.net> wrote:
Hello All. I'm a new member of the PBS and I have a question about a plant
I'd like to acquire. I've searched all of the suppliers listed on the web
and currently none are available at this time. The plant is Helicodiceros
muscivorus. I'd like to obtain a few tubers of this species. I'd like to
grow one for myself and then donate another to the local college greenhouse
here in Williamsburg VA, where I am a volunteer. It would make a great
addition to their plant collection. (I've donated several species of
stapeliads to them and the stinky flowers are a big hit with students and
visitors.) Does anyone have any extra tubers of this plant available? I
would be happy to make a donation to the BX/BS, or other form of
reimbursement, especially for postage and handling.
Thank you for any help or advice you can provide me.
Regards,
Bernie
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From msittner@mcn.org Tue, 27 Nov 2018 11:17:02 -0800
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From: Mary Sue Ittner
Subject: Cameron McMaster
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 11:13:30 -0800
I have just learned from Rhoda that Cameron died November 24 after nine
years of battling cancer. I was so fortunate to have met Cameron and to
have stayed with him and Rhoda in South Africa, to go on a trip to the
Eastern Cape led by him, and to have him visit us in California. I
remember the first time we met when he was still living in the Eastern
Cape. It was September and he had spent a lot of time prior to our trip
trying to find anything in flower to show us as this was a summer
rainfall area. But Cameron was an expert in more than just flowers. He
knew birds and butterflies too. Finally we just enjoyed being with him
and seeing the scenery and hearing his stories. Cameron was a renowned
consultant for farmers, making regular trips to Australia. A lot of us
purchased bulbs and seeds from African Bulbs. Mine are still flowering
regularly. He and Rhoda knew the right time to ship and the quality was
excellent.
Cameron was a very kind and generous man, but also organized with high
standards. Going on a trip with him was so special as he would arrange
lodging with farmers he knew and take you to places that you were sure
to see wonderful things. None of that would have been possible if you
had to make your own arrangements. One of our places (first time used by
him) was not up to his standards and he cancelled the second night and
found us what turned out to be one of the best places we stayed in on
our trip and his knowledge of the area was so excellent that he knew an
area that had burned the year before and substituted it. It was a great
place to botanize.
https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/GaikasKop
Cameron loved sharing the special places in South Africa and his
enthusiasm was contagious. I have so many memories of his kindness to me
but one I'll share is that he arranged a special birthday celebration
for me on our Eastern Cape trip. We had a very delicious dinner in a
cave with candle light in brown bags on long tables. It was magical.
And then there was a thunderstorm and we witnessed a real show of
lighting and soon rain streaming down in the opening of the cave. It was
like he had provided entertainment as well. And there was the time that
he sacrificed the cold water he was saving for the end of a day looking
for plants and poured it over my head when I was suffering from the very
hot day without cover.
Cameron found new bulb species, wrote articles for farming journals and
botanical groups, gave wonderful slide shows, and shared photos he had
taken. There are so many photos of his on the wiki as he sent me CDs
taken on his many trips in nature and gave permission to add any I
wanted to add. And he was willing to provide information as well if ever
I asked. He was also instrumental in saving a large area of the
renosterveld in the Overberg.
The loss of him and Rod and Rachel in the same year is a big blow to all
of us who loved South African bulbs. I'm sure I join many of you in
mourning his loss.
Mary Sue
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From markemazer@gmail.com Tue, 27 Nov 2018 13:17:03 -0800
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From: Mark Mazer
Subject: Helicodiceros muscivorus Tubers Still Wanted
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 15:18:07 -0500
I've had a clump in the ground in the greenhouse for a decade but they did
not show up this past spring. Get in touch in late spring or early summer
2019. Pehaps they will have returned.
Mark Mazer
Hertford, NC
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 1:16 PM XYZ in Virginia <867ykcor768@cox.net> wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> Thanks for your suggestion. I already placed an order for bulbs with Telos
> on Nov. 17 in response to the Camp Fire disaster. Unfortunately, Telos did
> not have Helicodiceros muscivorus available at that time. That's why I
> appealed to the PBS general membership on the List. I'll keep a watch on
> the Telos website for availability in the future.
>
> In the meantime, I'm still interested in obtaining some Helicodiceros
> muscivorus tubers if anyone has any available.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Bernie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of
> James Waddick
> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 9:57 PM
> To: Pacific Bulb Society
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Helicodiceros muscivorus Tubers Wanted
>
> Dear Bernie,
>
> Telos Rare Bulbs usually has a few available. Since the owner Diana
> Chapman is also organizing donations for the victims of the Camp Fire
> Disaster in Northern California, this might be a good time to tempt her
> with
> an order and a generous donation. You can see her site here:
>
> http://www.telosrarebulbs.com/Arums.html
>
>
> and follow contact info on the botom of the page.
>
> Best Jim W.
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 25, 2018, at 6:58 PM, XYZ in Virginia <867ykcor768@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Hello All. I'm a new member of the PBS and I have a question about a plant
> I'd like to acquire. I've searched all of the suppliers listed on the web
> and currently none are available at this time. The plant is Helicodiceros
> muscivorus. I'd like to obtain a few tubers of this species. I'd like to
> grow one for myself and then donate another to the local college greenhouse
> here in Williamsburg VA, where I am a volunteer. It would make a great
> addition to their plant collection. (I've donated several species of
> stapeliads to them and the stinky flowers are a big hit with students and
> visitors.) Does anyone have any extra tubers of this plant available? I
> would be happy to make a donation to the BX/BS, or other form of
> reimbursement, especially for postage and handling.
>
> Thank you for any help or advice you can provide me.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Bernie
>
>
>
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> Kansas City, MO 64152-2711
> USA
> Phone 816-746-1949
>
>
>
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From info@beautifulblooms.ab.ca Tue, 27 Nov 2018 14:17:03 -0800
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From: "Linda M Foulis"
Subject: Cameron McMaster
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 14:22:19 -0700
Thank you, Mary Sue, for sharing that with all of us. He sounds like he was a remarkable man and you are so blessed to have those wonderful memories. Over the years I sure have enjoyed the many, many pictures on the wiki contributed by Cameron.
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From Tony@plantdelights.com Tue, 27 Nov 2018 14:17:03 -0800
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From: Tony Avent
Subject: Helicodiceros muscivorus Tubers Still Wanted
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 22:02:46 +0000
We have plenty of Helicodiceros and am not sure why it shows up as Sold Out on the website...we are working to remedy the problem.
Tony Avent
Proprietor
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Juniper Level Botanic Garden and Plant Delights Nursery
Ph 919.772.4794/fx 919.772.4752
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From: pbs On Behalf Of Mark Mazer
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 3:18 PM
To: Pacific Bulb Society
Subject: Re: [pbs] Helicodiceros muscivorus Tubers Still Wanted
I've had a clump in the ground in the greenhouse for a decade but they did
not show up this past spring. Get in touch in late spring or early summer
2019. Pehaps they will have returned.
Mark Mazer
Hertford, NC
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 1:16 PM XYZ in Virginia <867ykcor768@cox.net> wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> Thanks for your suggestion. I already placed an order for bulbs with Telos
> on Nov. 17 in response to the Camp Fire disaster. Unfortunately, Telos did
> not have Helicodiceros muscivorus available at that time. That's why I
> appealed to the PBS general membership on the List. I'll keep a watch on
> the Telos website for availability in the future.
>
> In the meantime, I'm still interested in obtaining some Helicodiceros
> muscivorus tubers if anyone has any available.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Bernie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of
> James Waddick
> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 9:57 PM
> To: Pacific Bulb Society
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Helicodiceros muscivorus Tubers Wanted
>
> Dear Bernie,
>
> Telos Rare Bulbs usually has a few available. Since the owner Diana
> Chapman is also organizing donations for the victims of the Camp Fire
> Disaster in Northern California, this might be a good time to tempt her
> with
> an order and a generous donation. You can see her site here:
>
> http://www.telosrarebulbs.com/Arums.html
>
>
> and follow contact info on the botom of the page.
>
> Best Jim W.
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 25, 2018, at 6:58 PM, XYZ in Virginia <867ykcor768@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Hello All. I'm a new member of the PBS and I have a question about a plant
> I'd like to acquire. I've searched all of the suppliers listed on the web
> and currently none are available at this time. The plant is Helicodiceros
> muscivorus. I'd like to obtain a few tubers of this species. I'd like to
> grow one for myself and then donate another to the local college greenhouse
> here in Williamsburg VA, where I am a volunteer. It would make a great
> addition to their plant collection. (I've donated several species of
> stapeliads to them and the stinky flowers are a big hit with students and
> visitors.) Does anyone have any extra tubers of this plant available? I
> would be happy to make a donation to the BX/BS, or other form of
> reimbursement, especially for postage and handling.
>
> Thank you for any help or advice you can provide me.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Bernie
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
> Dr. James Waddick
> 8871 NW Brostrom Rd
> Kansas City, MO 64152-2711
> USA
> Phone 816-746-1949
>
>
>
>
>
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From rdevries@comcast.net Tue, 27 Nov 2018 16:17:02 -0800
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From: Rimmer deVries
Subject: Cameron McMaster
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 17:30:25 -0600
The Scottish Rock Garden Club forum posted some nice photos by Bert Zaalberg of Cameron and plants of his namesake
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=15942.msg398376#msg398376
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From jane@deskhenge.com Wed, 28 Nov 2018 05:17:03 -0800
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From: Jane Sargent
Subject: allium
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 07:17:59 -0500
Thank you all for the help with my Allium. I need to have tough plants,
as I seem to kill the wimpy ones.
Jane Sargent
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From david@davidpilling.com Wed, 28 Nov 2018 05:17:03 -0800
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From: David Pilling
Subject: allium
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 12:43:40 +0000
Hi,
On 28/11/2018 12:17, Jane Sargent wrote:
> Thank you all for the help with my Allium. I need to have tough plants,
> as I seem to kill the wimpy ones.
The truth can be worse - one year I had 10 lots of three of a plant,
which I planted widely around the garden. One lot thrived, the rest
didn't. Conditions as local as that matter.
--
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From kathleen.sayce@gmail.com Wed, 28 Nov 2018 09:17:03 -0800
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From: Kathleen Sayce
Subject: bulb orders from big bulb companies
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 08:22:00 -0800
I have just had an amazingly bad experience ordering from one of the big bulb sellers in the US. The order came 8 weeks after I asked it to be delivered, and I know from emails with them they filled it late deliberately. The invoice was incomplete. And most infuriating: a few bulbs appear desiccated beyond viability and the rest are all sprouting. This is my first time with such poor treatment, and I wonder how typical it is?
Am now planting between rain storms, and dodging thunderstorms, to get these poor bulbs in the ground.
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From: ERIKA SCHROEDERSECKER via pbs
Subject: Cameron McMaster
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 11:39:20 -0500
I am deeply saddened by the loss of Cameron McMaster. He was a remarkable man who truly enriched my life. I went on two trips with him one to the Eastern Cape, and the other to the Western Cape and Namaqualand. He was so passionate and keen on showing me South Africa’s otherworldly flora and spectacular fauna. He provided unique experiences to remote areas engaging the local people. To say he was knowledgeable would be an understatement. When he came to Canada to visit his daughter he would also visit me. Last year he came for a visit but I was very ill in the hospital and did not get the chance to see him. To cheer me up as I was recovering he mailed me some CD’s of flora he had complied for me. He will be deeply missed by me and many others around the world who were fortunate enough to meet this remarkable man. His legacy, love and contributions to the botanical world will endure. Erika schroedersecker
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From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Wed, 28 Nov 2018 09:17:03 -0800
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From: James Waddick
Subject: Helicodiceros muscivorus
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 10:40:34 -0600
Dear Mark and all,
Odd coindcidence. I’ve had three clumps in the ground here in Kansas City for about a decade and none of them showed up this year. Hope they reappear next spring if the weather is not too brutal.
BUT my single clump in the GH gravel floor appeared and bloomed (stinko !) on time. Jim W.
On Nov 27, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Mark Mazer wrote:
I've had a clump in the ground in the greenhouse for a decade but they did
not show up this past spring. Get in touch in late spring or early summer
2019. Pehaps they will have returned.
Mark Mazer
Hertford, NC
Dr. James Waddick
8871 NW Brostrom Rd
Kansas City, MO 64152-2711
USA
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From petersirises@gmail.com Wed, 28 Nov 2018 11:17:02 -0800
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From: Peter Taggart
Subject: bulb orders from big bulb companies
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 19:09:20 +0000
Usually best to root them in a semidamp substrate, with good airflow, cool
and away from heavy rain and frost. Otherwise they may rot rather than
revive as they should in Autumn, if that is when they would naturally have
rooted. Heavy rain tends to cake the soil, not a good thing for rooting
stressed bulbs.
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018, 4:22 PM Kathleen Sayce ....And most infuriating: a few bulbs appear desiccated beyond viability
> and the rest are all sprouting. This is my first time with such poor
> treatment, and I wonder how typical it is?
>
> Am now planting between rain storms, and dodging thunderstorms, to get
> these poor bulbs in the ground
>
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From janemcgary@earthlink.net Wed, 28 Nov 2018 12:17:03 -0800
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From: Jane McGary
Subject: bulb orders from big bulb companies
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 12:02:39 -0800
Ha, thanks for the advice to keep bulbs away from heavy rain -- Kathleen
and I live in the US Pacific Northwest. On the other hand, she rejoices
in a sandy garden, while I moved a few years ago to a spot with clay.
I had the same experience as Kathleen last year with an order of Dutch
bulbs for the garden. They say they ship them at the "proper time for
planting in your region." Apparently they think southern California and
Oregon/Washington are in the same region (well, they're on the same
/ocean /). We seem to have a policy of not naming offending vendors on
this list, but should we?
Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA
On 11/28/2018 11:09 AM, Peter Taggart wrote:
> Usually best to root them in a semidamp substrate, with good airflow, cool
> and away from heavy rain and frost. Otherwise they may rot rather than
> revive as they should in Autumn, if that is when they would naturally have
> rooted. Heavy rain tends to cake the soil, not a good thing for rooting
> stressed bulbs.
>
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2018, 4:22 PM Kathleen Sayce wrote:
>
>> ....And most infuriating: a few bulbs appear desiccated beyond viability
>> and the rest are all sprouting. This is my first time with such poor
>> treatment, and I wonder how typical it is?
>>
>> Am now planting between rain storms, and dodging thunderstorms, to get
>> these poor bulbs in the ground
>>
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From markemazer@gmail.com Wed, 28 Nov 2018 12:17:03 -0800
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From: Mark Mazer
Subject: bulb orders from big bulb companies
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 15:09:51 -0500
Jane wrote: They say they ship them at the "proper time for
planting in your region."
I go through this every year with, ahem, that Bantam CT outfit. Simply
call customer service after placing the order and tell them when to ship.
They are very amenable.
Mark Mazer
Hertford, NC
Nerine bowdenii in bloom in the garden this week after several frosty
mornings.
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 2:59 PM Jane McGary
wrote:
> Ha, thanks for the advice to keep bulbs away from heavy rain -- Kathleen
> and I live in the US Pacific Northwest. On the other hand, she rejoices
> in a sandy garden, while I moved a few years ago to a spot with clay.
>
> I had the same experience as Kathleen last year with an order of Dutch
> bulbs for the garden. They say they ship them at the "proper time for
> planting in your region." Apparently they think southern California and
> Oregon/Washington are in the same region (well, they're on the same
> /ocean /). We seem to have a policy of not naming offending vendors on
> this list, but should we?
>
> Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA
>
>
> On 11/28/2018 11:09 AM, Peter Taggart wrote:
> > Usually best to root them in a semidamp substrate, with good airflow,
> cool
> > and away from heavy rain and frost. Otherwise they may rot rather than
> > revive as they should in Autumn, if that is when they would naturally
> have
> > rooted. Heavy rain tends to cake the soil, not a good thing for rooting
> > stressed bulbs.
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018, 4:22 PM Kathleen Sayce > wrote:
> >
> >> ....And most infuriating: a few bulbs appear desiccated beyond
> viability
> >> and the rest are all sprouting. This is my first time with such poor
> >> treatment, and I wonder how typical it is?
> >>
> >> Am now planting between rain storms, and dodging thunderstorms, to get
> >> these poor bulbs in the ground
> >>
>
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From robin@hansennursery.com Wed, 28 Nov 2018 12:17:03 -0800
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From: "Hansen Nursery"
Subject: bulb orders from big bulb companies
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 12:13:03 -0800
" We seem to have a policy of not naming offending vendors on
this list, but should we?"
I think offenders should be listed, with the caveat that the complaints are
specific and deal with facts. I don't want to hear innuendo, opinions, or
assumptions or what happened three years ago, only what has just happened,
say, in the last 2-3 months. Is that doable?
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From mikerumm@gmail.com Wed, 28 Nov 2018 13:17:03 -0800
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From: Mike Rummerfield
Subject: bulb orders from big bulb companies
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 12:34:26 -0800
Re: "We seem to have a policy of not naming offending vendors on
this list, but should we?"
Good question, Jane. What does it accomplish if we just state we had a
problem with some unknown (unstated) entity? Are we not an organization to
support each other and share information to potentially benefit all
members? We don't hesitate to name and laud sources that we have good
interactions with. Why should it be different with sources with which we
have poor interactions? It is not condemning a source, it is just stating
the quality of an interaction, which could be good or be poor, even if it's
the same source. Personally, I find it very helpful to know which
companies provide consistently good services/products over time, and which
do not.
That's my two bits. I'm sure there will be different opinions, but I think
it is a topic worth pursuing.
Mike Rummerfield
zone 7, western Washington
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 11:59 AM Jane McGary
wrote:
> Ha, thanks for the advice to keep bulbs away from heavy rain -- Kathleen
> and I live in the US Pacific Northwest. On the other hand, she rejoices
> in a sandy garden, while I moved a few years ago to a spot with clay.
>
> I had the same experience as Kathleen last year with an order of Dutch
> bulbs for the garden. They say they ship them at the "proper time for
> planting in your region." Apparently they think southern California and
> Oregon/Washington are in the same region (well, they're on the same
> /ocean /). We seem to have a policy of not naming offending vendors on
> this list, but should we?
>
> Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA
>
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From petersirises@gmail.com Wed, 28 Nov 2018 13:17:03 -0800
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Subject: bulb orders from big bulb companies
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 21:14:10 +0000
Your rainfall statistics and soils are not the issue. I merely pointed out
that winter growing bulbs root better in autumnal conditions rather than
winter ones, and that puddled or compacted soil is not ideal to sprout
roots from stressed bulbs. You Jane, and I will both know this, but the
observation is for everyone, and some may find it helpful.
Peter (UK)
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018, 7:59 PM Jane McGary Ha, thanks for the advice to keep bulbs away from heavy rain -- Kathleen
> and I live in the US Pacific Northwest. On the other hand, she rejoices
> in a sandy garden, while I moved a few years ago to a spot with clay.
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From scsnursery1@gmail.com Wed, 28 Nov 2018 14:17:03 -0800
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Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 16:05:15 -0600
What was the company's response to this issue when you brought it to their
attention that the experience was unsatisfactory?
If Paypal was used; it would be very easy to file a claim (after vendor
contact) if they do not rectify the situation on the desiccated bulbs.
I can't imagine they would tolerate a rogue employee that holds a grudge
because of email contact to deliberately delay an order.
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 10:22 AM Kathleen Sayce
wrote:
> I have just had an amazingly bad experience ordering from one of the big
> bulb sellers in the US. The order came 8 weeks after I asked it to be
> delivered, and I know from emails with them they filled it late
> deliberately. The invoice was incomplete. And most infuriating: a few
> bulbs appear desiccated beyond viability and the rest are all sprouting.
> This is my first time with such poor treatment, and I wonder how typical it
> is?
>
> Am now planting between rain storms, and dodging thunderstorms, to get
> these poor bulbs in the ground.
>
> Kathleen
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From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Wed, 28 Nov 2018 15:17:02 -0800
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Subject: bulb orders from big bulb companies
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 17:04:40 -0600
From the Department of ‘I Don’t know if it is true, but I think it is’:
I suspect that quality control in a large company of any sort is always a difficulty and one ‘rogue’ employee that doesn’t ‘care’ quite as much as the big boss can let some poor quality merchandise go through the system and get sent to customers.
I believe having an opinion is very important. I appreciate hearing boith the GOOD and the BAD. I also think these experiences should be qualified as one person’s experience and how things worked out. If you have a bad experience share the details including the exact nameof the offender, but if the company clears things up, it is also important to give them the benefit of thier actions.
We have recently had good fedback about one of the GOOD guys, Telos Rare Bulbs who not only announced their sale to our members, but also solicited CA wildfire donations as an extended good deed.
If you have a bad experience I think it is a good idea to mention these problems, but don’t assume it is the standard for all actions of the company.
Be kind Jim W.
On Nov 28, 2018, at 2:13 PM, Hansen Nursery wrote:
" We seem to have a policy of not naming offending vendors on
this list, but should we?"
I think offenders should be listed, with the caveat that the complaints are
specific and deal with facts. I don't want to hear innuendo, opinions, or
assumptions or what happened three years ago, only what has just happened,
say, in the last 2-3 months. Is that doable?
Robin
Hansen Nursery
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From robin@hansennursery.com Wed, 28 Nov 2018 16:17:02 -0800
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From: "Hansen Nursery"
Subject: bulb orders from big bulb companies
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 15:50:16 -0800
I agree with Jim Waddick's take on problems with bulb companies. If it's resolved satisfactorily, that is actually very important. All nurseries, no matter how good, can have a problem once in a great while. If the problems are frequent, take them off your shopping list.
Speaking as a nursery owner, I want all the feedback I can get. From time to time I'll even check on an order, asking such things as whether planting instructions were easy to follow and clearly illustrated, quality of shipment, how plants grew for them, etc. If I send a plant and it turns out the wrong color, Ipheion uniflorum pink and it was supposed to be white, I want to hear about it and I will replace it at no cost. Ditto species errors as well. In particular shipments to places like Alaska demand a follow-up even though the quality of UPS deliveries has never been an issue. Maybe you could call it "mother-hen syndrome"? I just want the plants to grow for everyone.
I've also had the feedback on the order of "I screwed up and didn't (or did) do this..." This information is valuable too.
Robin
Hansen Nursery
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From kathleen.sayce@gmail.com Wed, 28 Nov 2018 20:17:02 -0800
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From: Kathleen Sayce
Subject: bulb orders from big bulb companies
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 20:01:26 -0800
If the group decides that it’s appropriate to name names, I will do so. For now, I will name the town: Bantam.
Responding to several comments:
I garden in very sandy soil, so I do think most the bulbs will survive and in a year or two, voles and weather willing, perhaps thrive, despite being planted almost two months later than is optimal. Air temps are hovering between 40 and 55 most days, unusually (we are experiencing a late, very mild autumn); soil temperature is still in the mid 40s. It’s not optimal, but there’s no snow, and no frost expected for another week or two.
I contacted this firm repeatedly about the timing, and was told off repeatedly; basically those responses stated that my requested shipping date of early October was not appropriate. Apparently they think they know more about my climate than I or other gardeners do.
I was not the only person in my own community to have an order from this firm sent many weeks too late. Curiously, several people who had late orders (August/Sept) did receive their bulbs very quickly. If as Jane suggested, they use a zip code based algorithm to determine shipping times, it needs significant adjustment.
The most distressing part is the poor condition of the bulbs. As I mentioned before, if I want to buy poorly stored bulbs, any big box store can provide. That a major bulb supplier would do this is appalling.
I did write them a letter, and will be willing to share their response to this list. My intended future action is to not order bulbs from them again, which I stated in the letter, asking to be removed from their mailing list.
Kathleen
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From jean-moore@atlanticbb.net Thu, 29 Nov 2018 08:17:05 -0800
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From: Jean Moore
Subject: bulb orders from big bulb companies (Jean Moore (Zone 7a)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 10:18:14 -0500
Altho I haven't used it for awhile, the Garden Watchdog at
davesgarden.com has ratings of many, many nursery/bulb/seed companies w/
input from people who've bought their products, including condition of
product, response of company to complaints, delivery issues, etc. Altho
everything must be taken w/ a grain of salt (or maybe a teaspoon!), a
preponderance of poor reviews, and whether a company tries to follow up,
makes a decision to, or not to, place an order less of a shot in the
dark (kinda like Amazon or Epicurious reviews).
Happy Thursday! --Jean Moore, Queen Anne's County, MD
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From voltaire@islandnet.com Thu, 29 Nov 2018 08:17:05 -0800
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From: Diane
Subject: bulb orders from big bulb companies
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 07:43:03 -0800
I don’t order bulbs from mail order companies as there are so many places selling Dutch bulbs here - seven within a five minute drive.
I like being able to select my own bulbs from the boxes - do I want single, double or triple-nosed narcissus? One or two each of many kinds?
Diane Whitehead
Victoria B.C., Canada
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From aketcham@earthlink.net Thu, 29 Nov 2018 09:17:03 -0800
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From: Anita
Subject: bulb orders from big bulb companies
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 11:56:04 -0500
Fellow plant lovers,
On a happier note to share, I was looking for some of the more unusual Amaryllis Bulbs on the web and found a company called “ Easy to Grow” and took a chance on ordering a few fun varieties. They were shipped within a week and they are the biggest, nicest bare root bulbs I have ever received through a mail order company!
Happy growing,
Anita Ketcham
Zone 7a?
Cary, NC
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> On Nov 28, 2018, at 11:01 PM, Kathleen Sayce wrote:
>
> If the group decides that it’s appropriate to name names, I will do so. For now, I will name the town: Bantam.
>
> Responding to several comments:
>
> I garden in very sandy soil, so I do think most the bulbs will survive and in a year or two, voles and weather willing, perhaps thrive, despite being planted almost two months later than is optimal. Air temps are hovering between 40 and 55 most days, unusually (we are experiencing a late, very mild autumn); soil temperature is still in the mid 40s. It’s not optimal, but there’s no snow, and no frost expected for another week or two.
>
> I contacted this firm repeatedly about the timing, and was told off repeatedly; basically those responses stated that my requested shipping date of early October was not appropriate. Apparently they think they know more about my climate than I or other gardeners do.
>
> I was not the only person in my own community to have an order from this firm sent many weeks too late. Curiously, several people who had late orders (August/Sept) did receive their bulbs very quickly. If as Jane suggested, they use a zip code based algorithm to determine shipping times, it needs significant adjustment.
>
> The most distressing part is the poor condition of the bulbs. As I mentioned before, if I want to buy poorly stored bulbs, any big box store can provide. That a major bulb supplier would do this is appalling.
>
> I did write them a letter, and will be willing to share their response to this list. My intended future action is to not order bulbs from them again, which I stated in the letter, asking to be removed from their mailing list.
>
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From janemcgary@earthlink.net Thu, 29 Nov 2018 17:17:03 -0800
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