Serebro

Discussion about Serebro - new Russian group.
They were this year's Russian entry for ESC with song "Song Nr. 1" and they were 3rd.
The members of the group are Marina Lizorkina, Olya Serebkina, Elena Temnikova
Check them out at http://www.eurovision.tv/addons/medi...video/rus.html

well as shakespeare said, what's in a name? who really cares what it's called, titles are overrated anyway... and what were they gonna call it? "honey bunny?" "come on and check it?" ... those would all be retarted... haha.

someone posted the full cd with the 14 versions somewhere, it's amazing they could somehow make 14 versions of it... don't know if it's necessary, how about something new max? where's your usual brand of magic!?

well as shakespeare said, what's in a name? who really cares what it's called, titles are overrated anyway... and what were they gonna call it? "honey bunny?" "come on and check it?" ... those would all be retarted... haha.

A title is very important to an artist. They could have given it a simple title like "Check It" or something that isn't as ignorantly named as "Song #1"

Version they performed at Eurovision is a Red one (so is ESC promo-video)
Extended version of the song and video is Red2 one, I believe.

Black version is the one they performed on MTV show 'Polniy Kontakt'.Blue version is a mix with Glukoza's beats. Natasha just gave birth to a child recently and you can hear them congratulating her and doing this version specially for her.Orange one is acapella with vocals alone.
Rest are in various styles. I personally like Pink one even if I find it hard to understnad why this dark sexy version is called this way

Title thing explanation. It's a part of the simplistic concept they came up with. The idea is to provide content in a very simple pack. When you look at the Single cover, you can get the idea. All versions have various colors applied to them, so you can say 'balck version' or 'white version' without all that 'super-duper extended club badaboom remix by xxx'. The second song on the album will be called 'Song #2', so you already know the titles of all songs on the future album The album itself will be probably called 'Album #1'. I bet they'd call themselves 'Unknown Artist' if they didn't like the name Serebro this much. You can like it or not but that's the game they play.

Official site of the band is: www.serebro.su
It opened recently and you won't find too much information there tho.

Greg, they have material for the album already. The problem is that they planned to release it in 2008 but this ESC thing makes them change those plans. Max just played a game of making different songs from original one showing all the possibilities. Some of those aren't exactly remixes. The vocal line was sang in a different way and couple of versions actually include male vocals. It was done for the promo-CD and it doesn't mean they don't have new stuff planned.

oh don't worry, i was being extremely facetious to see what response i'd get from the kid, and it was funny that he did almost exactly as i predicted (especially the corrected lyric, haha... oh how predictable, sorry... i just had to try (and i was drunk when i posted it)). "Titles are very important for an artist" bahh... tell that to Sigur Ros or almost any Printmaker...

I enjoy this whole nomenclature with their titles, it stripping things down to the basics, where are song is just a song... it's like that whole "Aristocrat" joke... where things have an extravagant title but don't really deserve it. Though i think they are doing that with their group name, i think "Untitled Group" would have been great too...

the thing about the remixes and versions i noticed was that some of them either seem to be pastiches of parodies or popular songs, not in their intrumentals but in the vocals, i remember thinking one was like nelly furtado's promiscous for example. I dunno if that was his intention but it really seems like he attempted something there.

OMG, I can't wait the album! I think it'll be great!
Thanks for info and pics, la aurora, you're lovely, and I'll give you R+!

Hey, but what about Marina and Olya? I heard that Marina was lead singer of "Formula". I dunno if Olya can sing. I hope all three of them will sing. I don't want them to be something like Pussycat Dolls.

Greg, I think we should not forget that we aren't talking about commercial single here. This CD was made for giving to interested professionals in Helsinki. I guess Max just took couple of styles he considers fashionable and showed they can do it. Like in 'you want Surgababes? here you are. rock for MTV kids? we can do this too' and so on. Plus he added couple of versions in styles he used for his previous projects (if I'm not mistaken, Blue version actually uses one of Glukoza's tracks, just vocals are different). And he also added a couple of versions that can be played in clubs. Looks like progmatic material made by one professional for other professionals. He didn't even count on big success I think. He made it quite clear that this project was meant for Asian market where there's much more space still.

crazy malchik
Both Marina and Olga have musical education and experience. Olga is professional dancer and she did back vocals for a while. Marina sang in Formula and recordered a couple of songs for soap opera here. I think the main reason it's Lena mostly in this song is that ESC is stressful and 2 other girls don't have much experience being on public. Being a producer I bet you'd put most of the work on someone you are confident with in this case. I heard them saying they do have other songs with girls sining more in earlier interviews and few days before the contest there was a report on them in Helsinki where Lena said 'I sing most of the song and I barely have enough breath for that, so I can't afford catching a cold'. She stressed 'this song' in that one, meaning it's not the case with all songs.

OMG, la aurora, stop, you're making me the happiest man alive! (I love Serebro )Ok, don't stop, I wanna ask you one more thing: Olya looks so creepy. She has that cold look, not always but she's so creepy sometimes, and I get the feeling that she's so... like... coldhearted... Is she, is she? lol

Also, ppl, could someone upload songs one by one? I've downloaded them, they're great (I love the Silver version and Pink is awesome ) and so, I put the link on my blog, but I got comments from people who have slow connections, and they couldn't download it, so I erased the whole promo CD link! Will anybody be so good and help me and my inocent blog? lol

crazy malchik,
it's hard to get an idea on personalities of 2 other girls. It's easier with Lena as I remember her from 4 years ago and can see where this or that comes from while these 2 are looking bit pale at the moment due to being put next to much more emotionally open and bright Lena who has also got much more experience when it comes to public attention. I guess they'll learn to be stars, they just need some time

But from what I see now, no, I don't get impression on her being cold-hearted. I think some of it comes from her dancing career. She's been in it for 13 years and has some title actually meaning she was serious about that. You know what ballroom dancers are like... they have to keep that straight back all the time and look classy. Probably this is what gives you that impression. But at the moments she puts it down, she appears to be rather shy and soft. I'd say she's the least bitchy of 3 even.

And I'll see what I can do about the album. Will post links bit later probably

Ser. - Yes, yes. She tried with me, tried, but I asked, why does that lady try with me. I don't want to (I know the Serbian word, not English lol) Serbia in any case, because I have many friends form Serbia. And interesting song, and I'm glad it's 1st. But what I want to say about that girls concretly, is that her attention wasn't pleasant for me. And I didn't understand that format at all. lol

Ser. - Maybe it happened, but not real kiss, when she sat next to me, and told me into my ear "Vuuuuuuuu", really close, practicly (something) What could I say? There were not acceptable words, which I don't want to say now.

But you also saw, that her, didn't show so much passion, when she danced?

You understand what's the problem, I can't allow myself to speak bad things about Serbia, I have friends there. That country is close to me. And I'm sorry because of that, our caracters didn't get along with the solo girl.

Was she hitting on you really?Lena: Yeah, yeah.. hitting on me, hitting.. but I asked this lady to hit something else. I really don't want to sound offensive to Serbia because I have many friends from there... And the song is wonderful and I'm happy for them winning. But if we talk about this concrete girl in the closet, I have to say I wasn't pleased with attention I got from her. I just didn't understand this format of interaction.

Dindn't she try to kiss you?Lena: May be it was a kiss atempt, when she was passing me by she got really close, almost touching me and made a 'Wooooooo' into my ear. What could I say? A couple of not so polite words that I don't want to repeat now.

But you saw her reaction when she won and all those guestures she made.Lena: You see, the problem is that I really can't allow myself to say anything bad about Serbia. I have friends there. I feel attracted to this country. And that's why it's really upsetting for me that we didn't really get along with their singer.

oh don't worry, i was being extremely facetious to see what response i'd get from the kid, and it was funny that he did almost exactly as i predicted (especially the corrected lyric, haha... oh how predictable, sorry... i just had to try (and i was drunk when i posted it)). "Titles are very important for an artist" bahh... tell that to Sigur Ros or almost any Printmaker...

You know you're right. Getting online and making a post for the sole purpose of getting a heated response from someone to irritate them makes me the "kid". Whats childish is me saying something like this in response...

- You make a number of posts that are virtually the same i.e. correcting people for various things and debating.

Offtop:oh wait, thats true though

I don't understand the facination of getting online to "predict" how people react to your posts. Even if they are made facetiously.

Please don't use a cover up that I am childish when I correct your wrong lyrics or give an opinion that contrasts your own. It's not that big of a deal.

Thats the purpose of the forum, to discuss and inform people. If my dicussion of the group bothers you, perhaps you need a new hobbie other than photoshop, touring Europe, and "predicting" childish posts.

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I enjoy this whole nomenclature with their titles, it stripping things down to the basics, where are song is just a song... it's like that whole "Aristocrat" joke... where things have an extravagant title but don't really deserve it. Though i think they are doing that with their group name, i think "Untitled Group" would have been great too...

Really? I think it seems lazy. It's actually just something lazy IMO - that they hope people will over analyze and interpret as something artistic. Which is what has happened here.

- I also think it's rude that she's saying this Serbian woman was nothing other than a horny dyke basically.

Talyubittu,
it's really urs and Greg's business of course but the smart one is not the one that has the last word in an argument, the smart one is the first to stop it. Not giving advices or something, it's just random thoughts I've always been known having from time to time.

Serebro wasn't created yesterday. Fadeev really never tried to hide that he had some serious hopes on Lena and they've been trying to come up with project for her for long 3 years. The band itself is about 1 year old. I really think that even laziest person would find this time enough to come up with 10-15 titles. This project is obviously a dear one to Fadeev and if he goes for this concept, it means he wants to try different approach. Most of his project have a bit of experiemnting feeling about them and I don't see why it wouldn't be the case with this one.

Lena never said Serbian singer was a horny dyke. She said there was an accident and explained what happened exactly. I'm far from being homophobic.. very far actually but I must admit I wouldn't feel easy if someone did this to me. Marija is a nice singer and most likely a nice person but she does have that agressive butchiness in her and for girly girl it may seem being 'too much'. Political correctness was never Lena's strongest side, she grew up far from this big proper city and got used to openly expressing her feelings. But I've never really heard/seen her being rude for the sake of being rude, cool or scandalous.