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Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

You: Bush was way better than Obama
Me: Bush's number aren't actually that good.
You: You have Bush Derangement syndrome, stop bringing up Bush.
Me: Sigh....

Uh, no I didn't I answered the question raised about Bush's job growth which is better than Obama's yet liberals want to divert from that Obama record. Suggest you read a little more and post a little less for you would see who I am responding to. Might make things a little easier for you to understand. Obamabots buy what they are told and ignore the Obama economic results today but that doesn't stop them from diverting to Bush. I will always set the record straight and do so with actual verifiable numbers. Here are the employment numbers for both Bush and Obama

Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
Original Data Value

Series Id: LNS12000000
Seasonally Adjusted
Series title: (Seas) Employment Level
Labor force status: Employed
Type of data: Number in thousands
Age: 16 years and over
Years: 1980 to 2013

If the government runs low on cash, it will have to withhold a range of payments. Retirees might not get their Social Security checks, especially worrisome for the millions of Americans who depend almost entirely on the social insurance program for income. The same goes for Medicare and Medicaid recipients. Holders of Treasury notes, from Wall Street and other global banks to foreign governments, also could get stiffed, jeopardizing the solvency of many financial institutions and choking off global credit flows.

The U.S. also would struggle to pay the interest on its debt, including a $6 billion payout due at the end of the month. At that point, the U.S. would be in default of its obligations.

Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

Originally Posted by Old English

You see, like Obama said, we have the ability to re-open the government right now, and if we have the ability to do it, then why aren't we doing it? This has nothing to do with funding, we are currently reducing the deficits, thereby solving all of your fiscal concerns: Rome Wasn't built in a day; however, the right wants to make sure it never gets built.

The right has contradicted their entire political/philosophical base on this one. You see, now we can all see clearly that the right doesn't stand for principle; they stand against those who have principle, like Barack Obama: THEY ARE THE REAL LOOTERS THAT AYN RAND WAS TALKING ABOUT!

Yep, we know that Obama never lies, all he has to do is sign the House CR and the govt. will reopen.

Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

The govt. running low on cash needs to stop spending. Do you understand how much cash goes into the govt. each and every day? The debt service is 250 billion dollars or 12 billion a month. We take in about 2.7 trillion dollars a year which is over 200 billion a month so please tell me where the shortfall is in paying debt service on the debt?

Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

Originally Posted by Conservative

What was the difference in 2006 and today? Since leadership was an issue then why isn't it an issue today and leadership begins with Obama or should I say lack of leadership? We have a 17 trillion dollar debt and the debt limit doesn't need to increase at all, simply cut spending.

Ah....rambling nonsense that still avoids my question.

Why do you always ask so many questions....but cannot answer one? What is it about the teabag ideology that causes such avoidance?

If you want a reduction in debt, then support efforts to get people back to work. Furloughs do not do this. More layoffs do not create more jobs.

By the way, I am all for cutting the biggest item in discretionary spending.

Originally Posted by trouble13

If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.

Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

Originally Posted by Conservative

Yep, we know that Obama never lies, all he has to do is sign the House CR and the govt. will reopen.

Well, I'm just letting you know that the Tea Party is making conservatives look bad; I know because I used to be a conservative--in fact I voted for Mitt Romney--but now, seeing how they are fighting Obamacare, not only will I vote for democratic sweeps on every ballot--I was going to vote for Cucchinelli too, but now McAuliffe--I have convinced my mother, father, and brother to do the same. If you want to keep supporting a faction that is destroying your party's chances at the polls then go ahead, but you are only lying to yourself!

You must realize that the Tea Party is a sinking ship that is content to bring down the GOP with it!

Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176]

Originally Posted by Conservative

Carry on, Gimme, as usual a waste of time. none of what you posted proves anything I stated was wrong so what you do is post words that say nothing and prove nothing other than liberalism has someone like you supporting their failed economic policies.

Ironic rambling.

I just showed you stating that not only was the 2009 budget Bush's, but that the CR' were based on PREVIOUS Bush budgets.

You proved me right....and I didn't force you to.

Originally Posted by trouble13

If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.

Re: CNN Poll: GOP would bear the brunt of shutdown blame [W:176:468]

Why do you always ask so many questions....but cannot answer one? What is it about the teabag ideology that causes such avoidance?

If you want a reduction in debt, then support efforts to get people back to work. Furloughs do not do this. More layoffs do not create more jobs.

By the way, I am all for cutting the biggest item in discretionary spending.

What you ignore is what Senator Obama said in 2006 vs. what he is saying today. in 2006 the debt to GDP ratio was somewhere around 60% today it is over 100%. Today we are taking in over 200 billion dollars a month, debt service is about 20 billion a month so we aren't going to default on our debt but that doesn't stop people who support Obama from buying the lies.

There is a major reason today to not raise the debt ceiling and fund what we have to fund and cut everything else because of the high debt exceeding GDP. Obama condemned leadership for their failure in 2006 and ignores his own lack of leadership now.