Disagree about the Flair/Steamboat matches not holding up over the years. It's been a while since I've seen them but the last time I did they still had the all-time classic feel.

Absolutely agree. Doesn't matter WHEN certain classic matches took place for me, they are still classics. Someone mentioned about Bret/Austin from WM 13 and how it was awesome at the time but we saw matches like that every week on Raw or whatever not too long after. True, we saw plenty more "hardcore" style matches on TV not too long after that, but NONE of them even came close to being as brilliantly executed as Bret/Austin which is what keeps it on such a high level after all these years. The style of Flair/Steamboat might be seen on a much more regular basis today or whatever, but do any of them really begin to compare? Nope. THAT is what keeps classic matches classics. They do what they do better than other matches that try to do the same.

Yup, although I kind of agree with that guy about Bret/Austin. Not because matches got more hardcore over the years though, WM 13 just never struck me as one of the best matches in company history. I should probably watch it again but every time I've seen it I thought it was a fantastic match but short of true top 10 WWE matches like Taker/Michaels in the Cell, Bret/Owen at Mania, HHH/Foley at the Rumble.

Yup, although I kind of agree with that guy about Bret/Austin. Not because matches got more hardcore over the years though, WM 13 just never struck me as one of the best matches in company history. I should probably watch it again but every time I've seen it I thought it was a fantastic match but short of true top 10 WWE matches like Taker/Michaels in the Cell, Bret/Owen at Mania, HHH/Foley at the Rumble.

I also agree that it isn't THE best match in the company's history (though I ranked it at '#12 and it ended up placing #1 overall in the poll some of us did ) but its still an incredible match with a great build up and feud attached to it and the ever memorable finish as both an image (blood pouring down Austin's face before he passes out) and a huge moment in the company (Austin becoming a babyface while Bret turns heel at the same time which began imo the boom period for the WWF).

Yo KC, what do I have to do to become a part of this list ? I could whip one of those lists up in a week TOPS. I won't even fill it with random HHH matches... I promise

"He's not the biggest. He was never the strongest. He was never the fastest. He was overlooked. He went in the sixth round. So with that being said, all of the intangibles that a quarterback is supposed to have, they overlooked it with him because it was burning from inside of him" - Ray Lewis on Tom Brady

No, I mean as in I have a HUGEEE backlog of reviews here, mostly from 2000-present. The only issue with that, is that they are mostly PPV reviews. I have a majority of PPV's from 00-09 covered, but this obviously dosen't cover the VAST amount of TV matches that are out there.

So what would it be? Watching every match from 2000-2009 on both TV/PPV, not including random house show matches, or would it be more of a big list of fantastic TV/House show matches that could be distributed as required watching for those who were interested in putting together a list. However long it takes, I'm down with making a top 100.

The only thing I ask KC, is a list(dosen't matter how long, if it takes a year it takes a year) of required matches to watch so that I CAN make an efficient list. I SO want in on this.

"He's not the biggest. He was never the strongest. He was never the fastest. He was overlooked. He went in the sixth round. So with that being said, all of the intangibles that a quarterback is supposed to have, they overlooked it with him because it was burning from inside of him" - Ray Lewis on Tom Brady

Taker/Michaels HIAC 1997 is the best match in WWE for me. It's wither that or Taker/Michaels WM 25 (Didn't really dig their match at 26 though). But damn I loved that HIAC match so much to me, it remains the best HIAC match in the company. I never really found Foley vs Taker to be that great outside of those 2 bumps I have the match only at ***3/4, which is still a good rating but Taker vs HBK is no doubt *****.

Oh yeah and I know the brawling style of Austin/Bret soon became the norm and even the norm on it's best night couldn't hold a candle compare to Austin/Bret but personally, the match just never really had that moment. I know a lot of people will cite Austin's pool of blood in the sharpshooter but like I said, how many times have I seen Austin in a pool of blood before watching it. The match is without a doubt a classic and will forever be one but I don't know why after 3 viewings I've never seen anything worthy enough to increase my rating of ****1/2.

The funny thing is though the more that i think of the match as I type and picture it in my head is the more I wanna say "Aww to hell with it *****" but I'm pretty sure if I go and look at it now, I'll be thinking "Nah ****1/2" as I have done in the past lol

I'm down for a list of the top 100 TV matches as well. Man, this thread has become my favourite in the last few months (but jeez is it dead), why the heck was I never posting in here from the day I joined?

Unfortunately we don't really know you well enough to invite you to join in on a poll. Nothing personal, but the people I do this with are a group of guys I've spent a good few years getting to know (in terms of their wrestling opinions/knowledge etc and personal stuff... though sometimes I wish I could remove some of the person stuff... choking cripple girls during sex? Argh...), and while I don't always agree with them (HIAC 97 is the greatest WWF/E Match ever Mike... bastard) I respect their opinions more than the average forum member and that makes doing these polls so much fun. What was I saying? Oh yeah, uhhh, sorry, can't join in . Nothing stopping you from doing it yourself though lol. Just a case of watching as much wrestling from 00-09 in any promotion and seeing what you like the best. That's what we'll be doing for the most part. Sometimes some of the best matches might be ones we've never seen or even heard of before so there isn't a definitive list of matches to watch before we get started or anything, we just dive into what we have access to and go from there.