...how is it that Ron Paul did not get into a position to challenge for the Presidency? I haven't watched everything he's ever said, but from what I've seen, he seemed like a decent guy and he made a lot more sense than any of the other candidates. What turned people off him?

...how is it that Ron Paul did not get into a position to challenge for the Presidency? I haven't watched everything he's ever said, but from what I've seen, he seemed like a decent guy and he made a lot more sense than any of the other candidates. What turned people off him?

The oval office is not won through election, it's merely rented out by the oligarchs. Democracy only exists in a thinly veiled appearance masked by the underlining fact that policy is bought and paid for by the highest bidder and the puppets are lined with the spoils.

...how is it that Ron Paul did not get into a position to challenge for the Presidency? I haven't watched everything he's ever said, but from what I've seen, he seemed like a decent guy and he made a lot more sense than any of the other candidates. What turned people off him?

Americans have become spoiled brats that do not want to be financially responsible in their personal lives and neither do the politicians because no politician will get elected if they endorse responsible policies.

The oval office is not won through election, it's merely rented out by the oligarchs. Democracy only exists in a thinly veiled appearance masked by the underlining fact that policy is bought and paid for by the highest bidder and the puppets are lined with the spoils.

Americans have become spoiled brats that do not want to be financially responsible in their personal lives and neither do the politicians because no politician will get elected if they endorse responsible policies.

Americans have become spoiled brats that do not want to be financially responsible in their personal lives and neither do the politicians because no politician will get elected if they endorse responsible policies.

Well put - sad specimen functionality just got the upper hand and we're suffering as a whole.

I don't know that it's just you guys. Most Aussies I know would fit into that description as well. The credit card debt in Oz is insane - there's little sense of responsibility and everyone needs instant gratification.

It's shame about Ron Paul though. Like I said, I only have a very small perspective based on what I've seen of him, but I thought his message would have been plain enough to even the most bottom feeding trailer trash. He seems like a decent man who wants his country to do well again. That's at least the basic message I took from him. None of the hyperbole and shit that was coming from the others. Don't know how he could have been ignored like he was.

...how is it that Ron Paul did not get into a position to challenge for the Presidency? I haven't watched everything he's ever said, but from what I've seen, he seemed like a decent guy and he made a lot more sense than any of the other candidates. What turned people off him?

His crazy train is on a different track than the crazy train of the Republican base.

I don't know that it's just you guys. Most Aussies I know would fit into that description as well. The credit card debt in Oz is insane - there's little sense of responsibility and everyone needs instant gratification.

Yes this is by all means not limited to Americans. Most of Europe is fucked too. Credit has made it possible for nations and individuals to purchase things they otherwise couldn't afford to buy by saving. I personally have some bad debt, but I sure as hell have less debt than my annual income - which U.S. currently almost has.

To simplify this, if your income is $50k and you have $50k of credit card debt, how long is it going to take to pay back - after paying your other bills? Ok, let's say you pay back $200 / month and your debt has a super low interest rate, let's say 2%. How long would it take to pay that back? Answer: 27 years.

Yes this is by all means not limited to Americans. Most of Europe is fucked too. Credit has made it possible for nations and individuals to purchase things they otherwise couldn't afford to buy by saving. I personally have some bad debt, but I sure as hell have less debt than my annual income - which U.S. currently almost has.

To simplify this, if your income is $50k and you have $50k of credit card debt, how long is it going to take to pay back - after paying your other bills? Ok, let's say you pay back $200 / month and your debt has a super low interest rate, let's say 2%. How long would it take to pay that back? Answer: 27 years.

Japan is even worse, their national debt is 250% of their income.

Japan will pull out unharmed - they're building debt collecting robots as we speak.