Hi, Im really newbie in Handy Talky at all. I just wantto ask. what type of HT that should best for me?1. Small Enaugh 2. Have long range, about 8 mil range, without external antenna ( I dont know what it called, but only with antena built in).

because it just for my occasionally usage,like when me and my wife on crowded or outbond.

I think you are pretty much out of luck. It will not be possible to get a reliable 8-mile range between HTs with built-in antennas over normal terrain. Now if you were sitting on top of two mountains located 8 miles apart it would probably work.

The line-of-sight radio horizon for an antenna 5-feet high is 3 miles. That means two HTs with antennas 5-feet high would have a line-of-sight range of 6 miles. That's if the ground is flat and there is nothing in between to block or attenuate the signals (i.e. you are out in the desert). In a typical terrain you are going to get much less. It is unrealistic to expect to get a reliable 8-10 miles range between two 5-watt HTs. You need to look for another solution.

<< for other option, if use GMRS and FRS, is there any product can reach that range? >>

There are very few HT, on any frequency, that run more than 5 or 6 watts. Going back to a previous post, the horizon for an HT used by the average person is about three miles over flat terrain, for a max of 6 miles for two units. This is absolute best case. Normal for two 5w HTs in a typical enviroment will be two to four miles, max.

FRS is limited to 500mw and most units are lucky to ge a mile ouf of them.

I don't think you are going to find any HT that will do what you want simplex.

I assume you two will not each be in range of a higher power repeater on a hill? If you are this would extend your range. Longer antennas, say full 1/2 wave (~ 1m on 146MHz or ~35cm on 440 Mhz) might help *a little* but they are not as easy to carry as the standard 'rubber duck' The only other option I see if you get too far apart is cell phones.

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