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The Old Doctor

by The Old Doctor » Thu May 02, 2013 10:31 am

nietoperz wrote:The thing is (and as others have pointed out) the true triumphs of the New 52 would have worked just as well in the old DCU - think of Batman, Swamp Thing and Animal Man: they just built upon previous continuity. The real fuck-ups have been the books where DC has elected just to start again. Superman is unrecognisable, as are his peripheral characters. Ditto the Titans. It's just not a good idea.

One other thing: John Constantine can work perfectly well in the DCU. After all, he started out there, and it was really only in recent years that his book started to exist in its own reality, as it were. What does not work for the character is running around battling super-villains and being part of Justice League events.

Boo-Yah! Well said!

Some restarts work, but only some. Wonder Woman seems to have worked and did with Perez in the 80s, though all he did was take Mars, make him badass and call him Ares.

I always like the original concept of Vertigo and the characters belonging to it. They are in the shadows of the DCU and can come and go as they pleased.

The Old Doctor

nietoperz wrote:The thing is (and as others have pointed out) the true triumphs of the New 52 would have worked just as well in the old DCU - think of Batman, Swamp Thing and Animal Man: they just built upon previous continuity. The real fuck-ups have been the books where DC has elected just to start again. Superman is unrecognisable, as are his peripheral characters. Ditto the Titans. It's just not a good idea.

One other thing: John Constantine can work perfectly well in the DCU. After all, he started out there, and it was really only in recent years that his book started to exist in its own reality, as it were. What does not work for the character is running around battling super-villains and being part of Justice League events.

Boo-Yah! Well said!

Some restarts work, but only some. Wonder Woman seems to have worked and did with Perez in the 80s, though all he did was take Mars, make him badass and call him Ares.

I always like the original concept of Vertigo and the characters belonging to it. They are in the shadows of the DCU and can come and go as they pleased.