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I'm not sure how helpful this thread actually is in rooting out firms that have problematic offer policies. I mean, for firms that have no-offered a significant portion of their class for the past few years, then yes, this thread is likely to be very helpful. But for firms that have no-offered 1 or 2 people and they have a rather large class, I feel like this thread probably causes more fear than helps.

I summered at a firm my 1L summer and was absolutely appalled by some of the antics of a few of my fellow 2L summer associates (I'm talking not coming into work numerous times, pawning off assignments on other summers, drinking an excessive amount a firm events - i.e. taking shots in the presence of numerous partners). Unsurprisingly, those 2Ls did not get offers to return to the firm. Just looking at the firm statistics, however, would show that the firm only offered 8/10 summers. Thus, even though the firm originally hired a summer class with the intention of giving everyone offers at the end of the summer, their offer rate was only 80% because some summers genuinely f***ed up and didn't "earn" an offer.

I think TLS users underestimate how unprofessional other law students can be while working at a law firm over the summer. So a firm that has only no-offered 1 or 2 people is probably a fine choice (unless you've spoken with ppl who summered at the firm and come to the conclusion that the no-offers were totally unwarranted).

Anonymous User wrote:I'm not sure how helpful this thread actually is in rooting out firms that have problematic offer policies. I mean, for firms that have no-offered a significant portion of their class for the past few years, then yes, this thread is likely to be very helpful. But for firms that have no-offered 1 or 2 people and they have a rather large class, I feel like this thread probably causes more fear than helps.

I summered at a firm my 1L summer and was absolutely appalled by some of the antics of a few of my fellow 2L summer associates (I'm talking not coming into work numerous times, pawning off assignments on other summers, drinking an excessive amount a firm events - i.e. taking shots in the presence of numerous partners). Unsurprisingly, those 2Ls did not get offers to return to the firm. Just looking at the firm statistics, however, would show that the firm only offered 8/10 summers. Thus, even though the firm originally hired a summer class with the intention of giving everyone offers at the end of the summer, their offer rate was only 80% because some summers genuinely f***ed up and didn't "earn" an offer.

I think TLS users underestimate how unprofessional other law students can be while working at a law firm over the summer. So a firm that has only no-offered 1 or 2 people is probably a fine choice (unless you've spoken with ppl who summered at the firm and come to the conclusion that the no-offers were totally unwarranted).

I think it is true in some cases but for the most case if there were 6 summer associates and only 3 or 2 of them got offered back the chances of 1/2 of the SA being that unprofessional is pretty damn low.

I think we should start mentioning firms who no offered more than 10-20% of the class. Not just every firm who no offered one person.

Anonymous User wrote:Can someone back up the cold-offers mentioned above at DPW and Cleary??? Did this happen last year or in years past as well?

I meant DPW and Cleary are known to give cold offers, not that they did last year. At these firms it's simply assumed on day 1 that everyone will get an offer. The cold offer horror stories are along the lines of "X stopped showing up to work, she was asked not to accept her offer."

Anonymous User wrote:Can someone back up the cold-offers mentioned above at DPW and Cleary??? Did this happen last year or in years past as well?

I meant DPW and Cleary are known to give cold offers, not that they did last year. At these firms it's simply assumed on day 1 that everyone will get an offer. The cold offer horror stories are along the lines of "X stopped showing up to work, she was asked not to accept her offer."

Gotcha. I am summering at one of these firms so I literally had a heart attack when I read that initially. Thanks!

Anonymous User wrote:Can someone back up the cold-offers mentioned above at DPW and Cleary??? Did this happen last year or in years past as well?

I meant DPW and Cleary are known to give cold offers, not that they did last year. At these firms it's simply assumed on day 1 that everyone will get an offer. The cold offer horror stories are along the lines of "X stopped showing up to work, she was asked not to accept her offer."

Gotcha. I am summering at one of these firms so I literally had a heart attack when I read that initially. Thanks!

For the record, every incident of cold-offering I heard of at one of the above firms that I worked at happened years ago and was for extremely egregious conduct. Turns out sexually harassing people is a great way to not be welcomed back to the firm with open arms. Who knew?