Point taken: it is surely not completely impossible to learn how to do an at-home colonoscopy. Or some approximation thereof.

That said, I'd sooner trust a competent gastroenterologist than an incompetent fool like myself. I like to think that most reasonable persons would agree with me. Here is why I think unreasonable persons would not:

I find it amusing how you poke fun at me, and have yet to discredit anything I have said. Such is a common occurrence at many of the forums I have visited. There is a term used to describe this phenomena, they call it "group think".

My views do not fit into your apparent cocoon, because you are still within that cocoon. If you are not than please explain "why" it is I am who misconceived rather than you being misconceived. I stand behind my words, and you fail to refute any, only poke fun at a supposed persona, that is not here. You are seriously manifesting your own ego in failed attempts to uncover anything about me. This is heavily misplaced energy that could be spent much better within.

Jikan wrote:Point taken: it is surely not completely impossible to learn how to do an at-home colonoscopy. Or some approximation thereof.

That said, I'd sooner trust a competent gastroenterologist than an incompetent fool like myself. I like to think that most reasonable persons would agree with me. Here is why I think unreasonable persons would not:

I guess I see it as something I would rather not leave to "chance" in regards to spirituality. If you are fortunate enough to have found a teacher as a guide, then I do envy that trust that must be present. I disagree that it is a necessity.

Who do you think wrote the books you read, the Internet sites you visit, etc.? You were a blank slate at birth, everything you've learned is from a teacher of some kind.

Exactly, I have learned things from microbes to ants, they are all my teachers, infact you are portraying a teacher to me right now. That is not to say there was one man who guided me, as is popularly considered a teacher. Or is it one tradition I fallowed, or some belief I took on. The doing can only be done by you, ad infinitum.

teknix wrote:The fear of emptiness maybe reconciled within the ego, absolute void is not something one generally experiences without it becoming absolute nothingness.

What is "it" that is not becoming absolute nothingness? I'm having trouble parsing your sentence here. Are you saying that absolute void, when it is directly experienced, is the absolute nothingness? So?

There was not fear, but negativity and nothingness radiating. The void of emptiness is not an absolute nothingness. This of course is likely beyond your experiences to realize at this point.

So the void of emptiness radiated negativity? How does something which is empty radiate anything? Negative or positive? How, exactly, does nothingness "radiate?"

No, I am pretty much done talking with you though. Far too much assuming for me to be of any help to you.

The Void of emptiness is not nothingness.

If you stop assuming anything about the words other than what was said, I will be happy to try to answer any more of your questions.

Who do you think wrote the books you read, the Internet sites you visit, etc.? You were a blank slate at birth, everything you've learned is from a teacher of some kind.

Exactly, I have learned things from microbes to ants, they are all my teachers, infact you are portraying a teacher to me right now. That is not to say there was one man who guided me, as is popularly considered a teacher. Or is it one tradition I fallowed, or some belief I took on. The doing can only be done by you, ad infinitum.

When you want to learn biology, any teacher will do. When you want to learn specific Tibetan teachings, you need a teacher from a specific lineage. Not everything is written down.

You will of course disagree, but you will still miss essential points. The problem is, you will not even know what you missed. Your loss.

Who do you think wrote the books you read, the Internet sites you visit, etc.? You were a blank slate at birth, everything you've learned is from a teacher of some kind.

Exactly, I have learned things from microbes to ants, they are all my teachers, infact you are portraying a teacher to me right now. That is not to say there was one man who guided me, as is popularly considered a teacher. Or is it one tradition I fallowed, or some belief I took on. The doing can only be done by you, ad infinitum.

When you want to learn biology, any teacher will do. When you want to learn specific Tibetan teachings, you need a teacher from a specific lineage. Not everything is written down.

You will of course disagree, but you will still miss essential points. The problem is, you will not even know what you missed. Your loss.

There is truth in what you say, and yes I see it. Probably not as you do.

It is kept away not for safety, but for profit. There is more hazards in keeping it locked up, then sharing the ins and outs. People pay more for things they think are "secret", so it makes conman pretend to have a "secret" to sell.

Opacity is the only way. If a path has issues then it should be known. Hiding things from one another is not beneficial. Let alone in regards to spiritual knowledge.

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Who do you think wrote the books you read, the Internet sites you visit, etc.? You were a blank slate at birth, everything you've learned is from a teacher of some kind.

Exactly, I have learned things from microbes to ants, they are all my teachers, infact you are portraying a teacher to me right now. That is not to say there was one man who guided me, as is popularly considered a teacher. Or is it one tradition I fallowed, or some belief I took on. The doing can only be done by you, ad infinitum.

When you want to learn biology, any teacher will do. When you want to learn specific Tibetan teachings, you need a teacher from a specific lineage. Not everything is written down.

You will of course disagree, but you will still miss essential points. The problem is, you will not even know what you missed. Your loss.

teknix wrote:It is kept away not for safety, but for profit. There is more hazards in keeping it locked up, then sharing the ins and outs. People pay more for things they think are "secret", so it makes conman pretend to have a "secret" to sell.

Opacity is the only way. If a path has issues then it should be known. Hiding things from one another is not beneficial. Let alone in regards to spiritual knowledge.

Wrong. The reason it is secret is because it can be harmful if used improperly. Think, locking the knife drawer when small children are around.

Peering into the actual absolute void is an experience, without metta it is a permanent one, imo.

Awareness is not fixed, it can explore, which is how metta is achieved. Awareness sort of "goes to love", there are other places awareness can go as well, one is into non-existence, aka the absolute void.

From the perspective of the absolute void, to be come one with it, there is only nothing. It seems that no amount of energy can reverse that, and has been hopeless to try.

Even with metta, it is still damaging to the energy within. Not something to be taken lightly or something for anyone less than adept should even consider imo.

teknix wrote:It is kept away not for safety, but for profit. There is more hazards in keeping it locked up, then sharing the ins and outs. People pay more for things they think are "secret", so it makes conman pretend to have a "secret" to sell.

Opacity is the only way. If a path has issues then it should be known. Hiding things from one another is not beneficial. Let alone in regards to spiritual knowledge.

Wrong. The reason it is secret is because it can be harmful if used improperly. Think, locking the knife drawer when small children are around.

Then why would it just not be explained properly in the 1st place, rather than leave it to chance if someones stumbles upon it? If it was devulged they would atleast know something about it, as opposed to finding a gun and shooting yourself in the foot because you have never seen or heard of a gun.

teknix wrote:It is kept away not for safety, but for profit. There is more hazards in keeping it locked up, then sharing the ins and outs. People pay more for things they think are "secret", so it makes conman pretend to have a "secret" to sell.

Opacity is the only way. If a path has issues then it should be known. Hiding things from one another is not beneficial. Let alone in regards to spiritual knowledge.

Wrong. The reason it is secret is because it can be harmful if used improperly. Think, locking the knife drawer when small children are around.