Just watched the finale of The Strain season 3 and it was pretty hype but dear gooseberry fool god Zach is the absolute worst character in anything ever.

Finally had the Master locked in a silver lined coffin and about to dump it in the ocean, then because his dad killed his vampire zombie mum (who was trying to kill them both) he sets off a gooseberry fool nuke in the middle of New York, killing gooseberry fool of people, letting the Master break free and blocking out the sun so that the strigoi don't have to worry about being burned to death by sunlight.

Done any other way that ending would have been fantastically dark and amazing but as it was the only thing I could take from it was "Jesus, Zach is the biggest little eton mess". Please just kill him off Mr del Toro you know it's the only way.

Ghost wrote:and since when has "being dumb" been a sin on the internet?

Brought Game of Thrones seasons 1-5 on DVD (special offer so cheaper to get season 6 separately soon) and went to visit a friend who hadn't seen it yet. We watched all of season 1, and it's great seeing the reaction of somebody who knew not a single spoiler.

Ever since joining the original ONM I've been a huge Nintendo fan (specifically Zelda) and am looking forward to some great discussions. I was previously known as Lego Master

Just watched the season finale of Westworld and it's cemented itself as easily one of the best things on TV for years. The story's got so much cool stuff going on, the twists have all been great in that they're unexpected but never cheap and the actors are all fantastic too (especially Anthony Hopkins and Jeffrey Wright). Really looking forward to next season, 2018 can't come soon enough.

Not sure what the post-credits bit with Armistice was all about, dunno what exactly it's meant to be hinting at other than her going all Terminator in the control centre but idk why that necessitated a teaser scene.

Ghost wrote:and since when has "being dumb" been a sin on the internet?

Chocolate-Milk wrote:Is it possible for a show about a man so fast he can run through time to jump the shark? Because the Flash is currently doing that.

Apparently Flash and Supergirl have met already? But she's from an alternate universe??

I really can't commit to watching three extra series in order to understand this one.

And another gooseberry fool thing: Why does everyone give such a eton mess that everything was different in another timeline? They haven't lost anything because IT NEVER HAPPENED FOR THEM.

There has been a Flash/Supergirl crossover before, and it was a pretty fun episode, but it didn't affect the Arrowverse at all. With the exception of a few episodes of Arrow (the ones that introduce Barry and a couple of two-part crossovers), you can probably still just watch The Flash without missing anything. So far, anyway. It tends to be things/characters in The Flash affecting the other shows rather than the other way around.

In fairness, it seems like Cisco is the only one still bread and buttered at Barry by the end of the episode, and with him it's a bit more complicated. For the others it was really just a knee-jerk response and disbelief at Barry's irresponsibility. Although it was a bit strong for them all to be so ready to bench him.

Thing is though, this current crossover is a two-parter, to be continued in the next Arrow. I'm just so tired of comic book cinematic universes bleeding into each other and making it necessary to at least look up what happened in a completely separate IP.

It does seem like they're laying off the whole "We hate you Barry you ruined EVERYTHING" plot threads, but Cisco's part in it is just really poorly written and purely there for the sake of conflict. So his brother was alive in a different timeline. And? His power lets him see parallel universes, surely he knows there are an infinite number of universes where his brother is alive, and just as many where he's dead. It's not like Barry even caused it, he just moved to a different timeline. He hasn't even changed anything for that timeline's Cisco, because his brother was going to die anyway. He's being a whiny piss-baby because his brother might have been alive in a universe that he's not even in, and the whole storyline is completely contrived and melodramatic.

That's true (and it's actually one of the reasons I can't read comics anymore), but at least crossovers like this aren't a common thing in these shows, maybe once per season, and most of the time they're really just filler episodes that don't actually advance the plot in any participating show in any real way. The only impact this crossover had on Supergirl's story for example, was one of Barry and Cisco's portals distracting a villain during a fight, and yesterday's Flash was all about the crossover, aside from a few mentions of Alchemy and Savitar and HR agreeing to train Wally. Similarly, I can't believe there's going to be any advances in the Prometheus or Vigilante subplots in Arrow tonight or any new twists in Legends of Tomorrow's story, well, tomorrow. So it wouldn't really be too hard to just briefly dip into the other shows for the crossovers and then just not bother with the rest of them at all. I know there was the thing with Stein and discovering he now has a daughter, but that was probably just because this crossover was a convenient time for him and the rest of the crew to return to the present and learn about the changes that have happened.

And yeah, I'm getting pretty sick of the Cisco plot too, but I think they've really done all they can with it so hopefully it shouldn't last much longer. Personally I'd have thought Caitlin would have more reason to be angry at Barry than Cisco, but obviously I'm glad she isn't.