My new life saver should arrive today, so in prep for teh past 3 days I had been gently using my finger and tiny smooth vibrator to explore and loosen up my muscles.

However I now have a very achy bum and sphincter, so much so i would not want to out anything up there right now. My right cheek feels quite achy and when i press on the side of the opening it agrevates the ache.

Is this normal in early on exploration into the underworld of my backside, or simply buised myself?

My MGX just arrived and although in a bit of discomfort something told me to give this ago.

I only wanted to see how it felt for a few moments, so it was a quick session! The results - after 1 minute the butt pain went and I was left physically shaking, not sure from nerves or from the experience, but whichever way the bum pain went away and I was left with a feeling that I needed to pee, but when i went to the bathroom the feeling was more of an urge to ejaulate. As I wanted to save myself for a better experience with the highly supportive wife, I managed the will power to not.

I am still very nervous in the use of such a device the thought of having to go to the doctors and explain how I injured myself is a bit of a passion killer, but I guess in time I will learn to relax more with it.

I am of the mind set that things are supposed to come out of that hidden place not go up it, and my expedition in this has been brought on by periodic prostate symptoms although the doc says my Prostate is in good health and likely stress related. So I am putting down the bum pain to tension and the massager releasing this.

I am sure I am not alone in being scared of its use, and I know i have to get over the fear that every little pain I now get is not due to some internal injury.

Luckily my wife is more than open minded and this has been brought about for pain relieft but of course to enjoy it in a relaxed enviroment we intend to incorporate it in part of our regular love making, although based on what I just experienced the may be some of her watching on! Hey makes a change!

You most likely did not use enough lube and also played too rough. If you're new to this stuff, go slowly, gently, and stop as soon as anything down there gets uncomfortable. It should feel good at all times.

I too feel that I went overboard in anticipation of my new toy. I went from nothing-ever-but-a-doctor's-finger (actually two, but that took awhile and he was using a desensitizing lubricant) to a moderately-sized dildo (approx large banana in diameter...length is irrelevant as I was shooting for dilation, not depth.) I was fairly sore for several days afterwards, but this soon passed and has not been a problem since (well, once, but I was trying to sit on a new 'do; bad case of "eyes bigger than ass".) The only problem I ever encounter from regular Aneros use is that sometimes I sit in my reclining easy chair with it inserted. All fine for awhile, but then things start getting a little sore; I think it gets jammed into the prostate which does not like this for very long. Scratch that practice!!

Just go slow, be thoughtful and careful, and when you think you've used enough lube... use some more!

Well first session will be tonight, wife gone and got some KY (warming) and after a bottle of wine I hope to put my fears of permenant disfigurement and midnight trips to ER out of my mind.

Encouragingly with just a tiny vibrator I got an anal orgasm on first hit, so based on that I am expecting a lot :) My main focus is to get rid of this headache in my pelvis (catching a phrase from a book) my symtoms are very likened to muscle tightness rather than bacterial postitus. So if this cured the aches then I am a life time believer, if it gives me super sexual pleasure also then that for me for now is a secondary benefit which I hope to turn into primary.

I am the guy that reads the side effects on a perscription and does not get the common side effects but instead the least reported. Everytime I take the tiniest particle of Lavitra (viagra family) I have panic attacks I will get the 1 in 100 million chances of going blind!

so right now my bum hole is the size of a pin hole and hoping it will play ball.

[QUOTE=sittingonagolfball;96788]Well first session will be tonight, wife gone and got some KY (warming) and after a bottle of wine I hope to put my fears of permenant disfigurement and midnight trips to ER out of my mind.

Please do not use the WARMING type. IT is not meant to go up into the bum! I hope you get this message before you start your session.

[QUOTE=RJT;96798]Durex play (not the warming, tingling or desensitizing version) is similar to ID glide. Either should be OK unless you're one of those people that is sensitive to glycerin (they both contain it).

ID glide is what I used for my tester session bit runny so am thinking vasceline could be the best tool available for now.

I may not be the best to comment about this, but I think the zero discomfort thing might be a bit of a stretch. I've completed the learning curve for the most part, and I still get discomfort. I have owned mine for approaching two years. In the interest of full disclosure, I have a very low pain threshold.

You should not use this post as an excuse to be a sissy. If I can take it, you can take it. (yeah, I could run off with the sissy thing, but I have other threads to read :) )

But the point of the post was this:

warming lube = very very badchilling lube = not as bad, but still bad. Sometimes you have to use what is on hand though. (I kill me! LOL)plain silicon lube = goodwater based lube is good too. They seem to be a little slicker, but wear off faster than silicon.

I use ky intrigue presently, cuz you can get it at a drug store. And I'm just waiting for some cute cashier to be smart and ask me what I'm gonna do with it so I can tell her! :)

From reading your detailed descriptions and fantasies I'd really say there is a gay danger that using such tools could make you become gay. I also don't think that the aneros modells are designed to be pulled in and out like dildos. Sounds a bit like things are getting out of control when you have something in the butt.

From reading your detailed descriptions and fantasies I'd really say there is a gay danger that using such tools could make you become gay. I also don't think that the aneros modells are designed to be pulled in and out like dildos. Sounds a bit like things are getting out of control when you have something in the butt.

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Absolutley not, the dildo thing was to pre determine if this sort of thing was for me and my wife and there was zero pulling in and out at anytime other than the odd fiddle to see if I could get a better fit.

I am highly nrvous of anything in my butt so trust me there is zero risk of things getting out of control and if you saw the stunning wife I have the pleasure of being married to I think we can safely say there are zero gay tendencies, however my wife has 3 gay friends and I am happy to spend equal social time with them therefore have no gay hang up either providing they dont try and come onto me LOL

I also think from reading stacks of posts that if any hetro guy thinks this device could turn them gay they are very mistaken, Homosexuality does not come for a toy, it comes from your own hormonal balance and make up.

Saying that I am sure there is the odd guy that has wandered..... but for that there are prostetics (check spelling)

I do not recall listing any fantasies unless sharing hopes for help with my discomfort is classed as one.

i suffer from CPPS, which is what you referred to as "headache" down there. I have read and recommended that book. why is your handle "sitting on a golf ball"? the aneros is good for hemorrhoids, but other than that i don't know if it will help with pain. in fact, the aneros aggravates my pain.

to relax my pelvic floor i use the Crystal Wand to massage the *muscle* (not the prostate). current medical thinking is that prostate massage does not have any benefit for pelvic pain.

My handle of sitting on a golf ball basically comes from the feeling I get when I have bouts, the feeling of sitting on a lump in front of my back side

I will see how this goes tonight and providing I do not get any discomfort it may turn into more of a sex toy for my wife and I, but will look into more keegal relaxation techniques also. I will check out the cystal wand, I am also looking at the external massger (prostate cradle)

I don't know about the 'gay danger' stuff... but I certainly agree with you, Stu, when you say things get out of control when you have something in the butt!

[QUOTE=stu;96803]@ sittingonagolfball

From reading your detailed descriptions and fantasies I'd really say there is a gay danger that using such tools could make you become gay. I also don't think that the aneros modells are designed to be pulled in and out like dildos. Sounds a bit like things are getting out of control when you have something in the butt.

i would stay away from the prostate cradle. i have one, and it can feel fantastic, but, it has also been a significant culprit in aggravating my symptoms. the pressure it exerts is greater then the aneros, so first see if how the aneros goes.

Last night was the first session with the MGX (it is now in the bin which will give you an idea where this is going). I did everything as documented here and some, including stacks of lube and also hot bath prior. The issue was pain and lots of it.

The first issue was getting past my sphincter, once in I was ok for a short while but the ache it was producing from my rectum not my prostate became to much to bare, so after 15mins of doing my best to try and find some reason to keep it in, I had to take it out.

This morning I woke to a very painful cock, some massaging around behind the balls helped.

This afternoon spent doing some "internal" research and found my arse is tight (so my friends were right after all!) after some very delicate insertions with a 2" thin straight vibrator and lots of external massage I felt very refreshed, which led me to think the MGX is simple too big for my bum to handle. I am 5' 10" by the way

So I am thinking more along the lines now of the SGX (the MGX is in recycling other than that the garbage man found it today and is now going to be very curious)

My biggest fear when waking this morning was what the hell had I done to myself, saying the wife that i could not face seeing a doc and telling them I have induldged in rear entry plastic pleasures. I cant get over the hang up of doing some damage up there. My fear comes from not finding anywhere any urologist on the internet saying this are great. There is plenty of references but the medical world is not being very open with their thoughts on this. If I mentioned to my doc I was having an affair with Mr BomPlastic she would freak, the most advise I got was internal exams are for specialiists and sitz baths are the most you should do! So going back and saying "hey I have screwed my bum up with some plastic fantastic" is not really an avenue I wish to go down.

Please take into account my first aim is achy arse relief, my second for now is sexual, I note 99.9999% of the forum is based on sexual, great I want to join you guys but first I need to get over the first hurdle so please be gentle with me :(

any suggestions on the SGX? or indeed a tight arse like myself? Or is a tight arse not overly open to such rectal pleasures?

first, your paranoia about telling your doctor about the plastic is verging on juvenile. get over that. she is an adult and a doctor, and you are an adult. this can be discussed as such.

second, this device, as i said, will not help with pain from pelvic floor tension. if you have a tense back do you go out and shovel snow? no, using tense muscles makes them tenser. and the aneros USES these muscles big time.

i have already suggested the best home intervention, the crystal wand.

You need to look passed my humour, I guess my British way of wording such things does not come across to all that read. Juvenile no, trying to have fun with words yes.

Moving on - I indeed spent about an hour last night looking at the crystal wand, there seems to be limited info on it and the two reviews online were a bit off putting, having said that from my exploits with the small thin vibrator I found the relaxation of this around the sphinctor to be very relieving after some time and my morning pain is now gone, the vibe was off by the way.

so the next question is for an all Butt nervous guy like myself would the SGX be more suitable?n(if the refuse collector guy knocks on my door next week and shakes my hand I will know the MGX worked for some :) )

I apologise with all heart if my humor is not coming across the way it is written.

Darwin knows what he's talking about when it comes to the Pelvic Headache. I hope the appropriate medical specialist will be able to help you with that.

Based on your experience, I doubt any anal-entrant device larger than the little one you have will be useful. The thinnest of the Aneros line, the Eupho is way bigger than your 2" vibe, and the SGX is thicker in cross section than Eupho.

As for Brit humor; it's an acquired taste for us Yanks, especially when you get into the Benny Hill material.

I'm sorry to hear about your initial uncomfortable experience with the MGX but I am not terribly surprised either given your initial post about poking around in your anus and rectum. sittingonagolfball said:My new life saver should arrive today, so in prep for the past 3 days I had been gently using my finger and tiny smooth vibrator to explore and loosen up my muscles.However I now have a very achy bum and sphincter, so much so i would not want to out anything up there right now.You repeatedly expressed your stress about engaging in this activity-I am still very nervous in the use of such a device the thought of having to go to the doctors and explain how I injured myself is a bit of a passion killer, but I guess in time I will learn to relax more with it.I am of the mind set that things are supposed to come out of that hidden place not go up it, and my expedition in this has been brought on by periodic prostate symptoms although the doc says my Prostate is in good health and likely stress related. So I am putting down the bum pain to tension and the massager releasing this.I am sure I am not alone in being scared of its use, and I know i have to get over the fear that every little pain I now get is not due to some internal injury....apprehensive about damaging myself......my fears of permenant disfigurement and midnight trips to ER...I am highly nervous of anything in my butt...Yor stress level is so high as to be palpable, add to this an already aggravated and sore bum and you have a pretty reliable formula for a bad Anerosession. I agree with veteran 'darwin's statement - darwin said:...using tense muscles makes them tenser. and the aneros USES these muscles big time.

I would advise you to retrieve your new massager and simply put it aside for a little bit as I have an alternate suggestion for you. Rather than purchase the SGX which is 1/2"(1.27cm) shorter but only 0.0625"(0.159cm) narrower than the MGX and is just as likely to be uncomfortable, I would first suggest you give your bum a rest and a chance to recover from the assault to its dignity. I suspect the MGX will work quite well for you once you have learned to sufficiently relax all those muscles down there. Second, as an interim stepping stone before returning to the MGX I would suggest you purchase the Peridise (Advanced Set - It is the least invasive, smallest model available). This would be an excellent model to introduce to your anus and rectum to assure them that no harm is about to befall their tender structures.Thirdly, before you even attempt to use the Peridise models, continue to have your wife gently massage and use the small vibe on your anus in the course of your lovemaking, be sure to use copious amounts of appropriate lubricants (no warming or cooling additives please). After a few sessions with her doing this then try out the Peridise model for awhile. Once you are very comfortable with the Peridise then you will be ready to retry the MGX.

you are not hearing me loud and clear. based on my experience with CPPS, ANY device in the aneros line, no matter how slender (eg, the peridise), will aggravate not alleviate your symptoms. insertion diameter is not the issue. it is the use of your pelvic muscles, which is the entire intention of these devices. using the back analogy, it doesn't matter how thick the handle on your snow shovel is, all snow shovels use your back muscles.

i would be more than happy to correspond directly with you to tell you all about the crystal wand. [email]darwin.rewels@gmail.com[/email].

it occurs to me that you might not be clear on the fundamentals of the aneros. the way they work is to stimulate your pelvic muscles to go into involuntary contractions, which in turn drive the device to stimulate you, in a cycle. the result is ongoing contractions leading to ongoing orgasmic contractions.

all that contracting is just what your pelvic floor needs to avoid. your pelvic floor is already chronically contracted.

using the wand is the opposite, as explained in the anderson/wise book. the intention is to carefully apply manual pressure to internal muscular tension/trigger spots in an effort to relax the chronic contraction. it is NOT to use the wand to massage your prostate organ, which might have been the reviews you read.

from all i have read (lots) there is no currently accepted medical research that supports the idea that prostate massage relieves CPPS.

I did myself a sitz bath yesterday and it really helped with the old rectum pain, things feel very tight down there and Darwin is right it hurts even trying to put a well lubed finger up there. Bowel movements agrevate it for sure as the muscles are contracted.

I think time is a healer with this one and plenty of warm baths and vasceline is the only two things going near my bum for a week. I will then follow everyones advise there after and see where I go from there.

Darwin - thanks for the advise on the crystal wand, but for now anything near that region is a no go, once back to health I will drop you a line. I was not aware of the term CPP now I have looked it up, it is clear where my issue lies. Thank you

i tried hem cream yesterday morning and it sent the area into a complete spasm so it seems I am very tender down there. I will rely on baths and mild healing creams for the weekend and see how it goes, not a lot I think doctors can do for sore bum holes other than over the counter treatments.

I had a doctor inspection 3 weeks ago when my prostitus flaired up and since then I have been suffering so my guess is I got a bit bruised and then have agrevated it.

2 years a go I had a full up the bum camera inspection so feel I should be in good health otherwise.

The majority of Hem products are for external use only and some products vary from country to country (what's sold in the U.S. may be OK while the same named product sold in Canada/UK may not be OK for use inside the outer sphincter). However, some specific products are OK for use inside the outer sphincter while others are OK for internal use, inside the inner sphincter.

Check the label. If the product insert isn't around, check the website for the product. However, make sure the country where the product was sold matches the country targeted by the website.

A thin swipe of U.S. Prep-H ointment (not cream) on the stem of any Aneros tool work fine for me when I get a tad of sphincter irritation.

I am using anusol plus which comes with an internal applicator. My treatment thus far is hot bath follwed by a good squeeze of said product. Increased fibre intake, lay off all internal massages as this is what caused the flair up, and sit it out. Hopefully in 10 days my bum will be back to as it was.

I will then look at Darwins advise for more appropriate treatment of CPP as I dont think this great device you guys get so much pleasure from (speaking with jealousy) will be for me :(

My forray into this was for pain management and not sexual pleasure although that would have been awesome bonus, so I guess I will have to sort one issue out before moving onto pleasurable things.

I have to agree with 'darwin' - darwin said:i think you need a clear diagnosis from a doctor.If you already had a case of prostatitis and are still suffering painful symptoms 3 weeks after your medical exam, it is time to have some further examinations to determine the root cause of this pain. Use of any of the Aneros products should be avoided until you and your doctor are satisfied you are back to normal physical health.

[QUOTE=sittingonagolfball;96862]i tried hem cream yesterday morning and it sent the area into a complete spasm so it seems I am very tender down there. I will rely on baths and mild healing creams for the weekend and see how it goes, not a lot I think doctors can do for sore bum holes other than over the counter treatments.

I had a doctor inspection 3 weeks ago when my prostitus flaired up and since then I have been suffering so my guess is I got a bit bruised and then have agrevated it.

2 years a go I had a full up the bum camera inspection so feel I should be in good health otherwise.

hey golfballsitter - in reading yer post from yesterday i am guessing you have some [B]chronic[/B] prostatitis or other chronic prostate problem ...

chronic prostatitis is an inflammatory condition that seems to respond to a long course of or even chronic suppressive use of antibiotics although the prostate fluid rarely grows any pathogenic organism or germ on culture

i can tell you that other than having objective knowledge and experience that even an anxious male ass can be penetrated and dilated with a "loving and gentle foreplay-like" approach i was and still am relatively averse to anything going into [B]MY[/B] asshole ...

my first anal experience was with my progasm about five months back and i had no prostate related feelings of erotic bliss and sub-ecstasy until late february although fairly soon after achieving progasm penetration - with plenty of loving "foreplay" each time - i did obtain pleasurable and arousing sensations related to the stretch and intromission of the progasm [I]through the sphincters[/I] and soon after an "enjoyable discomfort" of fullness much as having an erection trapped down the leg of a tight pair of levis or someone grabbing yer boner from behind during sex play i think you know what i am trying to say here

... anyway it was months later that i experienced 'the joy of prostate pleasure" - and i have never personally had a prostate issue or any dysfunction or illness of which i am aware

since you HAVE had some prostate problems it is likely that it may take you some additional time to rewire and disconnect your body's memory of prostate discomfort and find and connect the pleasure pathways

my advice would be to see yer doc - or a urologist - and advise him or her of your history and your symptoms and ask if you could have some chronic inflammation ...

i would level with the doc about the aneros and let him or her know that it is designed for self prostate massage ... have the doc check yer gland and ask that it be massaged if it's not contraindicated at the time of the exam butt don't expect it to be pleasurable

... if you pass that test you should be able to proceed on yer quest for all the good things described in these forums - i [B]guarantee[/B] it will take some time butt it will be well worth it ==> converting a problem in yer loins (prostate problems interfere with sexual pleasure even penile orgasm and ejaculation) to a source of indescribable pleasure.

Sorry for my delayed reply, but I wanted to get all facts together before coming back on the forum and troubling you all.

I did indeed go to see the doctor on Tuesday and have been FULLY checked out, she (yep a she) said I had no signs of any prostate related issues and that if I had a protate issue she would not have been able to bully my gland as much as she did without me flying out the window!

The diagnosis was as Darwin suspected a mixture of hemeroids or plain soreness brought on by the IBS I had been suffering, the constant anal play had simply inflamed a pre exiting condition of a tired ass from going to the loo so often. The medication prescribed was Anusol HC prescription strength that has brought everything other than of course my (fully diagnosed with camera right through my bowls) IBS.

Oh she did say my high stress levels most likely do not help to the tighness I often feel and sitting down so much for work really does not help matters either.

So I am kind of in recovery mode right now, I am taking things carefully and not doing anything much down there for now, but in time will introduce myself to the pleasures you all have the great experience of which I look forward soon to sharing with you.

The botton line (oh hey theres a joke) to anyone new reading my tales is, if you have a bit of an inflamed ass wait until that goes down before stuffing anything up there.

Sorry for my delayed reply, but I wanted to get all facts together before coming back on the forum and troubling you all.

I did indeed go to see the doctor on Tuesday and have been FULLY checked out, she (yep a she) said I had no signs of any prostate related issues and that if I had a protate issue she would not have been able to bully my gland as much as she did without me flying out the window!

The diagnosis was as Darwin suspected a mixture of hemeroids or plain soreness brought on by the IBS I had been suffering, the constant anal play had simply inflamed a pre exiting condition of a tired ass from going to the loo so often. The medication prescribed was Anusol HC prescription strength that has brought everything other than of course my (fully diagnosed with camera right through my bowls) IBS.

Oh she did say my high stress levels most likely do not help to the tighness I often feel and sitting down so much for work really does not help matters either.

So I am kind of in recovery mode right now, I am taking things carefully and not doing anything much down there for now, but in time will introduce myself to the pleasures you all have the great experience of which I look forward soon to sharing with you.

The botton line (oh hey theres a joke) to anyone new reading my tales is, if you have a bit of an inflamed ass wait until that goes down before stuffing anything up there.

I will return I hope very soon with tales of backdoor pleasures.

chief sitting ball - glad for you that yer prostate is healthy ...

mine is as well and it took several months to wake up its pleasure pathways so when you do get back in the saddle you oughta do fine

... just get those hemorrhoids cooled down - i wouldn't worry about the irritable bowel as it doesn't generally involve the rectum - but ya wanna get it under control so you don't poop yerself and yer bed when u hide an aneros in there

i'm a pro-am or am-pro(?) [progasm amateur] butt i think you oughta work with a smaller unit when you do get back in the game

I did indeed go to see the doctor on Tuesday .... snip ... The diagnosis was as Darwin suspected a mixture of hemeroids or plain soreness brought on by the IBS I had been suffering, the constant anal play had simply inflamed a pre exiting condition of a tired ass from going to the loo so often. The medication prescribed was Anusol HC prescription strength that has brought everything other than of course my (fully diagnosed with camera right through my bowls) IBS.

BTDT. I'm another of the few gents in this Forum that have had a 'liberal education' in IBS. Remembering back to my early 'enthusiasm' for the Aneros, I also triggered a near month-long battle with IBS. ... had been having five or more sessions a week all with liberal amounts of K-Y jelly and ID Glide. I took a rest for a week; then, shifted away from water based and the IBS subsided.