are you kidding? UE4's lighting and particle effects are brilliant. also, the UE4 tech demo isn't some video the guy is actually moving around and looking around in the tech demo. not like Square Enix and their CGI animated video. I want to see their actual gameplay or to see them move around in it while it's showing off those graphics and they wont be able to do that because it's no different then a Final Fantasy cut sequence.

You actually thought Square's engine was an FMV made with CGI? Just goes to show you how garbage UE is.

I can't believe how many people think Unreal Engine is the top of line. SMH... Why do you think so many companies use Unreal Engine? Because it is dirt cheap to license and much cheaper than using other better engines or creating your own.

You actually thought Square's engine was an FMV made with CGI? Just goes to show you how garbage UE is.

I can't believe how many people think Unreal Engine is the top of line. SMH... Why do you think so many companies use Unreal Engine? Because it is dirt cheap to license and much cheaper than using other better engines or creating your own.

You actually thought Square's engine was an FMV made with CGI? Just goes to show you how garbage UE is.

I can't believe how many people think Unreal Engine is the top of line. SMH... Why do you think so many companies use Unreal Engine? Because it is dirt cheap to license and much cheaper than using other better engines or creating your own.

It's bottom of the barrel stuff. As generic as you can get.

actually yes, that is what it will look like during cut sequences. what I am saying is if you think Final Fantasy gameplay on the PS4 is going to look like that, I will just say that is friggin ridiculous. I should be cracking up right now in laughter.

Is it just me or do people actually believe this bull$#@!? everytime they show a tech demo you get about 20 people in each forum that actually believe that is what games will look like, then they wonder why they don't look like that.

AS for the UE engine, the reason a lot of developers like that engine is because it's user friendly, it doesn't look like crap at all. The people that say otherwise are people that actually want me to believe they are developers? please. if you are hating on UE4, it's mainly because people are "singing birds" and they are whistling what other "non-developers" are saying, period.

Also, with UE4 when I was discussing that it's more believable for gameplay, I was talking about the UE4 lighting and particle effects. which by the way are very very well done.

@ people actually thinking that is what the next SE games are going to look like. holy crap

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actually yes, that is what it will look like during cut sequences. what I am saying is if you think Final Fantasy gameplay on the PS4 is going to look like that, I will just say that is friggin ridiculous. I should be cracking up right now in laughter.

Is it just me or do people actually believe this bull$#@!? everytime they show a tech demo you get about 20 people in each forum that actually believe that is what games will look like, then they wonder why they don't look like that.

Zelda games always looked better than their tech demos. just sayin

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I wonder when a nuclear warhead goes off, does the frame rate of real life drop?

actually yes, that is what it will look like during cut sequences. what I am saying is if you think Final Fantasy gameplay on the PS4 is going to look like that, I will just say that is friggin ridiculous. I should be cracking up right now in laughter.

Is it just me or do people actually believe this bull$#@!? everytime they show a tech demo you get about 20 people in each forum that actually believe that is what games will look like, then they wonder why they don't look like that.

AS for the UE engine, the reason a lot of developers like that engine is because it's user friendly, it doesn't look like crap at all. The people that say otherwise are people that actually want me to believe they are developers? please. if you are hating on UE4, it's mainly because people are "singing birds" and they are whistling what other "non-developers" are saying, period.

Also, with UE4 when I was discussing that it's more believable for gameplay, I was talking about the UE4 lighting and particle effects. which by the way are very very well done.

@ people actually thinking that is what the next SE games are going to look like. holy crap

FFXIII looked just as good as the FFVII tech demo though, if not better.

FFXIII looked just as good as the FFVII tech demo though, if not better.

I just don't believe that Final Fantasy gameplay will hit what the tech demo actually consist of and the reason is this. if it did hit that level then the PS4 has surpassed every single PC game and future PC games by 5 or so years. just look at that tech demo, that quality would be consisted of cut sequences, not actual gameplay.

plus the C.S. from FF7 is quite a few years old, that was during the PS1 part.

I just don't believe that Final Fantasy gameplay will hit what the tech demo actually consist of and the reason is this. if it did hit that level then the PS4 has surpassed every single PC game and future PC games by 5 or so years. just look at that tech demo, that quality would be consisted of cut sequences, not actual gameplay.

plus the C.S. from FF7 is quite a few years old, that was during the PS1 part.

From what I understand, The Agni's Philosophy tech demo was created solely to showcase the abilities of the Luminous Engine. It used the most powerful technology available. It wasn't a PS4 tech demo. So you're probably right.

well I sure hope I am wrong in this matter but my main minor rant was in case of people always downplaying UE when in fact the engine is a really good engine. only developers can define the engine, if you have a crappy developer that can't do much with UE, outcome for that engine with their game isn't going to be nearly as good. but look at batman and the engine is basically singing, so are a few other games using it. not only that but developers can add to the engine even more to include better physics, etc etc. updated or whatever else.

are you kidding? UE4's lighting and particle effects are brilliant. also, the UE4 tech demo isn't some video the guy is actually moving around and looking around in the tech demo. not like Square Enix and their CGI animated video. I want to see their actual gameplay or to see them move around in it while it's showing off those graphics and they wont be able to do that because it's no different then a Final Fantasy cut sequence.

well I sure hope I am wrong in this matter but my main minor rant was in case of people always downplaying UE when in fact the engine is a really good engine. only developers can define the engine, if you have a crappy developer that can't do much with UE, outcome for that engine with their game isn't going to be nearly as good. but look at batman and the engine is basically singing, so are a few other games using it. not only that but developers can add to the engine even more to include better physics, etc etc. updated or whatever else.

I know I rag on UE a lot but it does have qualities that is does very well such as metal surfaces and such. I can't say the same for its stability and performance. Devs who put a lot of work into it can get some pretty stunning effects. I just see that the engine is a very base one.

On the subject of gameplay, I hope no one thinks any of these are gameplay. That wasn't stated anywhere. It is just videos to show in engine capabilities.

Also, I guess I'm the only one who doesn't think Batman looks that good. I just don't see it.

I have a game called Dark Sector and I think that is the best looking Unreal Engine game I've seen. Too bad the game bombed. Bought it for $9.00 new.