Stuff like this makes me question the claim that we are given "reasons" for ANYthing in Islam. I wonder how many of those reasons are created for fiqh purposes. It's not even a criticism. If God felt the need for a final prophet, surely He intended for some level of fallible human interpretation?
But what example is there - really - of a "good" reason for doing something Islamically, the likes of which one would want for gender roles?
The only reason, it seems to me, is to be closer to God. But the specific mechanics of ultimately trivial decisions and rules and roles - I can't think of a reason given. Some satisfy, but satisfaction varies.

I love this thread!!!!
@oxy,
Do you agree that societies were primarily patriarchal prior to Islam?
Do you think humans are ahistorical?
Is there socialization outside of - and despite - Islam?
And to what extent do you think Islam exists to create culture, to modify it, or to accommodate to it?

I don't even understand how though. 99% of the convos are barely religious.
I guess it's good though bc thats the way it is for a lot of born-Muslims - we don't think about religion, it's just kinda there in references and stuff I guess.

B/c they didn't want us to consider it a big deal and were afraid I'd become snobby.
Pretty sure we are cuz we have a family tree (my granddad had it before he left India).
Ya I don't really understand how we are Syeds tbh if he didn't have sons.