rod

Tyson by TKO. Old comeback george is just too slow. I could see this one would have had alot of clinching, foreman being the bigger stronger man would be bullying and frustrating tyson in the clinch with wrestling but once apart tyson would get past foremans reach advantage with relative ease and unload combos till clinch time. It would be repeated again and again till foreman just gasses and gets pressured and loses by tko. There is a chance tyson gets caught with a massive punch but very very unlikely, foreman is too slow and tyson is too good defensively. It would be an ugly fight where tyson is constantly pressing forward trying to unloading combos, foreman is looking for a big punch and then clinch and wrestle. Ugly.

Posted
January 19, 2014 12:50 pm

TARK

That is total garbage BLUSMAN… Frazier and Norton had that cross-armed defense which made them vulnerable to a big tall puncher.

Norton was also KO’d by Garcia, Shavers, and Cooney… Frazier never fought another big, tall, powerful puncher other than Foreman — but he got hit with everything.

Young was a boxer like Ali… That’s why he boxed rings around George. It didn’t matter who trained George — you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear. Foreman slipped and ducked punches with all the finesse of Michael Bentt. George was slow.

Muhammad Ali…, “George Foreman is so slow I call him The Mummy. Did you ever see that movie The Mummy??? The Mummy walks real slow and can’t catch anybody.. Everybody runs and gets away from him.. LOOK OUT HERE COMES THE MUMMY… The Mummy swings slow punches… Whooosh… Whooosh Wooosh,, Not hitting anybody.. Whooosh.. Wooosh.. Woosh.. Getting really tired… Finally the Mummy gets so tired he just falls over dead!!! … That’s George Foreman.. That’s why he’s THE MUMMY”

Posted
January 19, 2014 3:20 am

BLUESMAN

The Foreman who fought Frazier and Norton was NOT the same Foreman that lost to Jimmy Young. Foreman had changed his style under the training of Gil Clancy, who tried to make Foreman more of a boxer. The Foreman that crushed Frazier and Norton would have crushed Young, not to mention Tyson, period, enda story. :-P

Posted
January 18, 2014 6:09 am

lucas

Tark is right to.

Posted
January 17, 2014 6:45 pm

Anonymous

back than heavyweights used to fight. today they wrestle.

Posted
January 17, 2014 2:57 pm

Anonymous

Hardest puncher Tyson faced??? BoneCrusher Smith took out Tim Witherspoon and Mike Weaver in the 1st round… Smith was the first guy to beat Frank Bruno…caught him good and took him out.

Maybe with one shot Smith hit harder than Lewis. But Lewis was fast and Smith was slow and easy to outbox like Foreman. The first time Smith fought Witherspoon he was boxed to death like Young handled Foreman.

Posted
January 17, 2014 1:10 pm

TARK

The young Foreman had a puncher’s chance to beat Tyson, just like he had against the much slower Lyle. But Mike would likely have outsped him like he did Smith, Ruddock, and Bruno.

A young Tyson was very fast and powerful — something Larry Holmes noted after being stopped for the only time in his 31-year pro career, “He’s fast… Most punchers aren’t fast.”

People forget that a fit Tyson and a fit Foreman were of similar size. A 21-year-old Tyson weighed 218 for Michael Spinks at his best. A 24-year-old Foreman weighed 217 for Frazier at his best…

The old Foreman had ZERO chance… George was too damned slow and lost his punch… At least he couldn’t find guys like Martin, Morrison, Stewart, Saverese, Grimsley, and Shultz… First big right hand from the speedy young Mike Tyson and old George is spanked.

Posted
January 17, 2014 12:57 pm

Rustybucket

But still, Douglas koed Tyson, and look how poor he was against Holyfield. At that particular time Foreman’s style, lack of being intimidated, and ability to absorb some punishment would have caused problems. And Tyson had real problems mentally which were just waiting to be exposed.
As a matter of interest, who would be considered the hardest puncher that Tyson fought?.

Posted
January 17, 2014 2:01 am

Anonymous

Tyson was way too fast for old George. So was Jimmy Young who hit like a feather. Young wouldn’t have lasted 1 full minute with Tyson. Even Michael Spinks was a much better heavyweight than Young, who had numerous losses when he whipped Foreman with those feather fists.

Posted
January 17, 2014 1:10 am

TARK

Informer…, “Foreman was all wrong for Tyson.”

Tyson blitzed Alex Steward and Lou Saverese in a few seconds each…

Foreman took a severe beating from Alex Stewart and couldn’t even find the wide open Lou Saverese with a punch that could hurt him… Foreman refused to fight big punchers except for Ron Lyle. That was a close call.

Foreman refused to fight Ruddock… Mercer… Bowe… Lewis… or McCall.. He did fight Tommy Morrison who was super easy to hit.. Come on man… The worthless Michael Bentt put Morrison out in 1 round and Foreman couldn’t put a lick on him or beat him.

Posted
January 17, 2014 1:05 am

TARK

FA…, “When Cooney came back to fight Foreman he did it to show he could shake the drug and alcohol abuse.”

Cooney hadn’t fought in 3 years since Spinks knocked him out… Cooney fought Foreman for one reason… The money was good…

Foreman fought Cooney for several reasons… He knew Cooney was an easy night… He knew Cooney had one losing fight against a lhw in in the last 5 years… And he knew Cooney’s bicep size was about half of what it was when he fought Ken Norton — and that was from being a drug addict and alcoholic for about 6 years.

Posted
January 17, 2014 12:57 am

Informer

Foreman was all wrong for Tyson. Especially with his new unprofessional corner. Foreman was also at the best shape of his comeback. I think Foreman would have won. Tyson would have tried to impose his will on Foreman and that would have spelled disaster for Tyson. Tyson may have possibly floored Formen in the fight. Tyson gets knocked down 6 times. Foreman by 6 round KO.

Posted
January 17, 2014 12:41 am

lucas

Anonymous is right

Posted
January 16, 2014 8:29 pm

Fight Aficionado

“Cooney was a walking dead man/coke-freak when Foreman fought him…” – He’d rehabbed by then but was indeed coming off longterm abuse. Coke and alcoholism left Cooney withered shape. He was a drunk when Spinks smacked him down so when he came back to fight Foreman he did it to show he could shake the drug and alcohol abuse. He mentioned it in the post-fight interview.

Posted
January 16, 2014 4:48 pm

BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY

Anonymous plastic coward,end of

Posted
January 16, 2014 3:56 pm

Anonymous

holyfield drugs cheat end of.

Posted
January 16, 2014 3:39 pm

D

These BS articles by Slater always talk about the Cooney fight. Cooney wasn’t fighting for years, and wasn’t even interested short of the money.

A better measuring stick was the Everette Martin fight. Foreman couldn’t hit the virtually defenseless Martin or stop him. For anybody who could defend themselves in the least, the old Foreman couldn’t get a KO shot on them.

George caught a napping Holyfield with 2 good rights all night. Evander, who was knocked out by Bowe and Toney, took the 2 punches well. George was getting killed when he caught a bored to death Moorer. You can’t go to sleep even when you’re fighting somebody who’s 45 years old. Anybody who weighs 260 can hit. Even a 45-year-old fat guy.

Posted
January 16, 2014 2:45 pm

Anonymous

Cooney was a walking dead man/coke-freak when Foreman fought him…

Gerry hadn’t fought in 3 years. In his previous fight he got KO’d early by a light heavy. Spinks beat Cooney down without even trying… Big risky fight because Cooney had the physical conditioning of a piece of road-kill.

Tyson took care of Spinks in 90 seconds… Iron Mike also took care of Alex Stewart in 90 seconds as… Stewart beat the holy crap out of Foreman.

That tells you all you need to know… Foreman didn’t want Tyson to murder him.

Posted
January 16, 2014 1:47 pm

Anonymous

Foreman ducked every good fighter he could in his comeback… Holyfield took it EASY on the old man and he even lost to limp-assed Tommy Morrison.

To boot he refused to fight Tyson… Lewis… McCall… Mercer… Ruddock… and any hard puncher out there… He hated hard punchers because he was easy to hit.

Plus the KO of Moorer was the only KO Foreman scored in his wimp-ass tour of guys like Crawford Grimsley and Lou SaverEASY.

Posted
January 16, 2014 1:36 pm

Pratt

George’s timing was off in the Holy fight. Had his timing and reflex been in tune, George would have put Holy into orbit with the missed opportunity of nailing Holy rebounding off the ropes. Holy would still be in orbit around the earth if George had made that hit. Maybe George on Roids would have been a phenomenon!! But he was not, George was just big and mean on the natch. A very bad man when he was young, very bad. A Bad Ass!! Now he is reborn and a very nice human being. Credits to George Foreman for reshaping his life and to his success. Congratulations George!

Posted
January 16, 2014 1:12 pm

horst fraze

tyson by close decision, only ali could KO george

Posted
January 16, 2014 1:06 pm

Lucas

At their peak Tyson for sure.

Posted
January 16, 2014 12:25 pm

CurlyQ.Howard

I have no idea of how George would have done against Tyson: however, I have a real interest in how the Foreman/Holyfield fight would have gone had not Holyfield been allowed to fight with all the benefits of PEDs. April 9, 1988 Holyfield was 190 pounds. December 9, 1988, Holyfield was 210 pounds. That’s 20 lean pounds of muscle in only eight months time. Holyfield was a recipient of the benefits of chemical engineering, and his performance as a heavyweight was skewed because of it. Perhaps some day boxing records will note those fighters whose achievements in the ring were achieved though chemical cheating.

Posted
January 16, 2014 10:13 am

BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY

totaly agree!dwc

Posted
January 16, 2014 9:24 am

dwc

I would have liked to see Foreman vs Tyson…but a prime Tyson was I belive to fast with killer power.But Foreman on the other hand would NOT have been afraid of Tyson like so many others were losing before the fight started.And the Foreman vs Cooney fight was a joke…Cooney was a drunk..coke sniffing..addict,at that time.Cooney was not even a shell of himself in that fight..compared to the Holmes fight. At that time Cooney should have been in a rehab hospital..not a boxing ring.And Tyson who admired Cooneys power and finishing skills,and who respected Cooney when Tyson himself was coming up must also knew Cooney was just a shell of himself in the Foreman fight.Therefore Tyson who knew boxing inside out must have realised that ofcourse Foreman was powerfull…but using the Cooney fight as a threat is flawed because of the condtion of Cooney at the time.Tyson might not be the sharpest knife in the draw…but he knows boxing and the history of boxing like the back of his hand.

Posted
January 16, 2014 9:15 am

Rustybucket

At the time of the Douglas fight, Tyson was not that commited, and in a poor position mentally. If Foreman had fought him then, I would have to pick Foreman by Ko, but the hindsight is a wonderful thing. And at the time nobody really knew that the rot had started to set in with Tyson.

Posted
January 16, 2014 8:34 am

boule

Tyson is too short, styles make fights, Tyson would probably eat some vicious uppercuts. Nobody can beat George inside without taking some punishment.

Posted
January 16, 2014 8:30 am

Gr33nFather

Foreman had troubles against Ron Lyle, imagine against Tyson lol

Posted
January 16, 2014 8:17 am

Bill Patrice Jones

Tyson didn’t want to fight Foreman nor did he ever really feel that keen on fighting Holyfield, and he most certainly positively never really wanted to fight Lennox Lewis. Tyson was a pure form bully in his boxing years. The exceptionally rare occasions such as the three stated above when an opponent genuinely did not fear Mike, is when he had second thoughts about fighting them. In what was retrospectively quite a good competitive heavyweight era these are the only men against whom there is proof Tyson was not all too keen on meeting until his hand was forced by financial pro.blems

Posted
January 16, 2014 3:50 am

BLUESMAN

The 6’4″ Foreman would’ve beaten Tyson handily, regardless of whether it was the version of Foreman that destroyed Frazier OR Cooney.

Posted
January 16, 2014 12:28 am

Pride

Foreman was great in his comeback, but that fight ended quick because Cooney was a drunk in need of a paycheck by that point.

Posted
January 16, 2014 12:04 am

Archie Moore

“George, you hit that Mike Tyson on top of his hard head, and he will go down!”

Posted
January 15, 2014 11:57 pm

Pratt

Yah Tyson was built like a tank. But, his arms are too short to fight the Big Mean George Foreman. Foreman was going to push Tyson off, then when Tyson charges in again George hits Tyson on top of his head and, and, and DOWN goes Tyson, Down goes Tyson. Plus you have to remember that George is just as mean as, or maybe even meaner than Mike Tyson. And George has some tree trunks for legs also. I am going with a KO by George in this fantasy match up.

Posted
January 15, 2014 11:56 pm

Lucas

Someone saying Tyson did not want to fight Foreman is crazy. In heavy weight anything could happened, but Tyson have at least same power and was much faster with so better combination. Foreman was like a robot next to Mike. Guys do you understand power? Power comes from speed and weight. Of course 140 lbs fighter is fast but light. Boxer over 200 plus speed is a monster. Foreman was heavy handed but Tyson was a KO artist thanks to his speed. And Tyson Ko punch starts with his huge legs. Again how someone can say Foreman was stronger? How? 12 years old Tyson was doing bench pressing with 220 lbs. This is the fact not dreaming – Foreman taller so should be stronger. Even compare foreman and Tyson body. Mike was built like a tank.

Posted
January 15, 2014 10:07 pm

kingdon

everyone has forgotten just how great tyson almost was , he would have killed george , do you remember the one punch comeback it took for george just to beet the the former light heavy mr. moorer……….

Posted
January 15, 2014 7:24 pm

Pinhead

..but never has a fighter created so much excitement as Mike Tyson, I just Foreman would have beaten him……..early and easily.

Posted
January 15, 2014 5:38 pm

Pugfan

I think George rates higher then Mike on an all time list.

Posted
January 15, 2014 4:54 pm

Pugfan

when I was younger I would have picked Mike. my dad and I used to argue about who would have won between the 2 of them. now that I am older looking back in hindsight I would have probably picked Foreman.

Posted
January 15, 2014 4:53 pm

Pinhead

Foreman without a shadow of a doubt.

Posted
January 15, 2014 4:16 pm

Xavier

George Foreman was as strong as an ox, even in his 40’s. He was probably stronger and more powerful thanTyson in brute strength, but Mike at his best had speed and power, a better chin than Cooney, hunger, a good defence and would have had the advantage of youth over Big George. 1990? Buster Douglas pulled the upset over Tyson early that year too. I would have picked Tyson against GF around about that time, 1990, 91, but there would have been some big bombs thrown, that’s for sure!

Posted
January 15, 2014 4:05 pm

Xdbd

I’ll never forget when George hit Cooney square in the face and Cooney went down then back up like a spring.

Posted
January 15, 2014 3:34 pm

Bolo

He may have punched harder but certainly not as fast. Would have been interesting to see these two together in George’s prime. Two intimidators with monstrous power. Have to edge towards Tyson but it’d been close.

Posted
January 15, 2014 3:23 pm

Xdbd

Foreman punched harder than tyson

Posted
January 15, 2014 3:12 pm

Fight Aficionado

I think that KO of Cooney did make Tyson shiver. Reportedly he accused Don King of ‘trying to kill’ him when King tried to make him fight Foreman. There was a report that directly quoted dudes in his camp confirming this happened in a meeting.