Originally posted by TiM3LoRd
can someone explain to me in plain English what the hell is going on here?

Christians are using Astrology to work out whats going on with their religion when they should be focusing on whats happening here in the real world
before anything else...If they use astrology to work out Revelation then they may aswell start with the use of Jesus and the 12 disciples as the Sun
and the 12 Constellations.. This is not what the Bible teaches.

Originally posted by TiM3LoRd
can someone explain to me in plain English what the hell is going on here?

Christians are using Astrology to work out whats going on with their religion when they should be focusing on whats happening here in the real world
before anything else...If they use astrology to work out Revelation then they may aswell start with the use of Jesus and the 12 disciples as the Sun
and the 12 Constellations.. This is not what the Bible teaches.

Not everything in revelation is supposed to be interpreted by astrology, only when they say things like "and then a great wonder, or sign in heaven,
etc" thats what they mean in genesis by god made the heavens to serve as signs.

there may be another interpretation of these things, but astrology is one way to read into it.

one example of another thing in revelation can link orion and the pleiadies as a sign in revelation.

"Canst thou Bind the sweet influences of the Pleiades, lest loose the bands of orion?" in the book of Job.

Revelation’s description of the Son of man fits the pattern of stars in the constellation Orion. The star on his right shoulder is bright red (upper
left star). The three stars at his waste were later seen as the three wise men who announced the birth of Jesus.

12Then I turned to see the voice that was speaking to me, and on turning I saw seven golden lampstands,
13and in the midst of the lampstands one like a son of man, clothed with a long robe and with a golden girdle round his breast;
14his head and his hair were white as white wool, white as snow; his eyes were like a flame of fire,
15his feet were like burnished bronze, refined as in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of many waters;
16in his right hand he held seven stars, from his mouth issued a sharp two-edged sword, and his face was like the sun shining in full strength. (Rev.
1:12-20)

The Son of man has a cluster of stars in the background that look like the clouds upon which the Son of man rides. Astronomical maps show the Milky
Way behind the constellation Orion. From earth, they look like clouds.

The Rothschild family is slowly but surely having their Central banks established in every country of this world, giving them incredible amount of
wealth and power.

In the year of 2000 there were seven countries without a Rothschild owned Central Bank:

Afghanistan

Iraq

Sudan

Libya

Cuba

North Korea

Iran

It is not a coincidence that these country, which are listed above were and are still being under attack by the western media, since one of the main
reasons these countries have been under attack in the first place is because they do not have a Rothschild owned Central Bank yet. The first step in
having a Central Bank establish in a country is to get them to accept an outrageous loans, which puts the country in debt of the Central Bank and
under the control of the Rothschilds. If the country does not accept the loan, the leader of this particular country will be assassinated and a
Rothschild aligned leader will be put into the position, and if the assassination does not work, the country will be invaded and have a Central Bank
established with force all under the name of terrorism.

God had promised David, the first rightful king of Israel, that his throne would be established forever.

When your days are over and you rest with your fathers, I will raise up your offspring to succeed you, who will come from your own body, and I
will establish his kingdom. He is the one who will build a house for my Name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever (2 Samuel
7:12-13).

This caused the people to long to see David's greater son – the one who would rule forever.

Jesus Is The Son Of David

On a number of occasions in the gospels Jesus is called the, "Son of David." Matthew calls Jesus the, son of David in the very first sentence of his
gospel.

A record of the genealogy of Jesus Christ the son of David, the son of Abraham (Matthew 1:1).

People Called Jesus The Son Of David

Six times in the gospel of Matthew it records people calling Jesus the, "Son of David."

There were two blind men who needed healing who addressed him this way.

As Jesus went on from there, two blind men followed him, crying out, "Have mercy on us, Son of David!" (Matthew 9:27).

After Jesus performed a miraculous healing the crowd wondered if Jesus could be David's son.

All the crowds were amazed, and were saying, "This man cannot be the Son of David, can he?" (Matthew 12:23).

A Canaanite woman who wanted her daughter healed used this title of Jesus.

And a Canaanite woman from that region came out and began to cry out, saying, "Have mercy on me, Lord, Son of David; my daughter is cruelly
demon-possessed" (Matthew 15:22).

In Jericho, two blind men called out to Jesus.

And two blind men sitting by the road, hearing that Jesus was passing by, cried out, "Lord, have mercy on us, Son of David!" (Matthew 20:30).

Jesus Was Called The Son Of David During The Triumphal Entry

When Jesus entered Jerusalem on Palm Sunday, the people acknowledged Him as the "Son of David."

The crowds going ahead of him, and those who followed, were shouting, "Hosanna to the Son of David; Blessed is he who comes in the name of the
Lord; Hosanna in the highest!" (Matthew 21:9).

In the temple in Jerusalem the people addressed Jesus as David's son.

But when the chief priests and the scribes saw the wonderful things that he had done, and the children who were shouting in the temple, "Hosanna
to the Son of David," they became indignant (Matthew 21:5).

Jesus Was Born In Bethlehem - The City Of David

Jesus was born in David's city – Bethlehem.

Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, magi from the east arrived in Jerusalem, saying, "Where is he who
has been born King of the Jews? For we saw his star in the east and have come to worship him" (Matthew 2:1,2).

He Had A Messianic Title

The Son of David was, therefore, a messianic title. Jesus called this to the attention of the religious rulers.

"What do you think about the Christ Whose son is he?" "The son of David," they replied. He said to them, "How is it then that David, speaking by
the Spirit, calls him Lord? For he says, "The Lord said to my Lord: "Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet." If then David
calls him ‘Lord,' how can he be his son?" No one could say a word in reply, and from that day on no one dared to ask him any more questions (Matthew
22:42-46).

Summary

David was promised that one of his offspring would rule forever. Jesus was called the "Son of David" while he was here on the earth. He was born in
David's city, Bethlehem. The gospel of Matthew records that various people, on six different occasions, acknowledged Jesus as the Son of David. This
is a messianic title. Jesus never denied that he was the Son of David.. In fact, on Palm Sunday he received the praise and worship of the people.

The Biblical Judah (in Hebrew: Yehuda) is the original name of the Tribe of Judah, which is traditionally symbolized by a lion. In Genesis, the
patriarch Jacob ("Israel") gave that symbol to his tribe when he refers to his son Judah as a Gur Aryeh גּוּר אַרְיֵה יְהוּדָה,
a "Young Lion" (Genesis 49:9) when blessing him.[1] In Jewish naming tradition the Hebrew name and the substitute name are often combined as a pair,
as in this case.
The rampant Lion as a Royal Standard of the United Kingdom

In Christian tradition, the Lion of Judah represents Jesus. Jesus was from the tribe of Judah and he is mentioned as the Lion of Judah in Revelation.
Many Christian organizations and ministries use the lion of Judah as their emblem or even their name.

The phrase appears in the New Testament Book of Revelation 5:5; "And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of
Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof."

Mars circles (or orbits, if you toss out the heliocentric theory) the
earth.
The background stars projected behind the planet, as seen from Earth, catch up with the planet at times creating a retrograde appearance, where the
stars seem to rotate faster than the planet for a short while.
That is caused by the elliptical nature of the Mars orbit, where when it reaches the sharly cornered 'end', it slows down. It really doesn't, but it
seems to, though it is just in relation to the background that seems to be a logical reference point to judge the speed of anything else moving around
closer to us than them.
So, Mars doesn't do anything at all odd.
But to people in ancient times who were observers of the heavens, it seemed profound to them, and they saw it as a special knowledge that only the
"few" knew about, which would be true since hardly anyone kept logs of the planets to know if the planets were in retrograde or not.
We know now that planets do not actually go into epicycles, where they suddenly orbit an invisible point in space for a loop, then go back to
normal.
So there is no "real" magic, just certain people thought there was.

personally i believe that the constellation Hydra is what they are reffering to by the seven heads and ten crowns
but for the seven crowns would be that "Saturn has seven moons that are large enough to be ellipsoidal due to having planetary mass, as well as dense
rings with complex orbital motions of their own."

personally i believe that the constellation Hydra is what they are reffering to by the seven heads and ten crowns
but for the seven crowns would be that "Saturn has seven moons that are large enough to be ellipsoidal due to having planetary mass, as well as dense
rings with complex orbital motions of their own."

Yes this esoteric stuff is really interesting however there is a metaphysical spiritual section or esoteric society section just for it here at
ATS.
Religion is by definition exoteric thus boring rigid and confined by rules. Thus you re post looks out of place here.
I have no idea why you & a few other enlightened ones post this stuff here!

I wonder how long it will take before someone catches on here¿? Opinions are like ass----- i think u get the point. If people stopped looking for
the signs it would stop happening... Have u heard of the phrase "If you invite them, they will come¿?" In my humble opinion, the 7 mountains are
the 7 mountain terrains that the woman resides in. The waters are that of the snake river. The 7viles are pandoras box she hold, which obtain the
7deadly sins . Lust being one of these which inturn make this apart of her. She was born in the year of the dragon which one of them is 88, which is
also an infinity #, which is viewed as the "unlucky" 7. Iron maiden has a song titled Charlotte the Harlot '88. 88 can be also be found at the
bottom of the jokers card, or 808 on a pack of bicycle playing cards to represent a full deck. With that she is also a joker, humor is better taken in
large doses 3* daily... She a lette with a large family shes made herself. Shes a hooker with a better name that suits the rest. As fools were the
kings entertainment .. Lol she was born in may and is a taurus with emerald as her birth symbol, which is also in allignment with the 13th zodiac sign
orphichus. Shes incredibly smart and friends think of her as a rock and not a roll. Shes an extreamly caring person, and loves it when her words can
help another to be successful and feel better about themselves... Shes isnt religious but very spiritual, as she believes god does not live on a floor
plan. Her real last names are porter-Hermann, porter being short for poitier. She knows A LOT, of gold, deitys, and alchemy "More of a warning" shes
knows the components to time travil but still dosnt know how they all go together... She has the mark of the beast, which is moles in a triangle,
with a mole on the middle of her hand and foot on the right side of her body as of a stigmata. She knows who she is, she wears a king spade on her
right arm as the spade represents david a biblical king... And everything else should b untold for now. U now have somethings to research have fun
kids¡!

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