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Re: Would Jacoby Jones Be a Good Fit With Ravens?

Reading this thread from the mind-numbing beginning reminds me of a gem provided by my Drill Sergeant:
"Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one and they usually stink. Now STHU and do some pushups!"

That is a direct quote. I think Wicked needs to do some pushups. I mean he actually broke down somebody's paragraph sentence by sentence and argued every point! Sheesh! May 2nd musta been total boredom incarnate.

Re: Would Jacoby Jones Be a Good Fit With Ravens?

This thread proves why Ozzie is paid the big bucks to find our talent instead of the fans.

For the record, I was a Jacoby Jones naysayer and was not happy with his signing, however, I have acknowledged the error of my ways. So far, he has been a valuable addition for us (up to this point) and I hope his value goes up even more as the season progresses. When I'm wrong, I can readily admit it. His 108 yard TD return was a thing of beauty and made the difference in us winning that game.

Re: Would Jacoby Jones Be a Good Fit With Ravens?

Originally Posted by JohnBKistler

We're still waiting...

The season is still young. Plenty of time left for him to pull a Housh or Evans on us. Jacoby has been a valuable asset thus far but I am still cautious about getting to hyped over him for a number of reasons. For one, he's got a history of this. One week he'd look great and the next week like utter crap. Houston fans were frustrated by him for a season. Two, Jacoby has a lot of pride and right now I think being cut is really what is driving him. What happens when he feels he's proved Houston wrong for letting him go? Finally, he's essentially in a contract year. No way the Ravens pay 4 million for him next year. He's auditioning for his next contract.

Just saying gloat after the season, if he keeps this level of play up.

Re: Would Jacoby Jones Be a Good Fit With Ravens?

Originally Posted by Corey

The season is still young. Plenty of time left for him to pull a Housh or Evans on us. Jacoby has been a valuable asset thus far but I am still cautious about getting to hyped over him for a number of reasons. For one, he's got a history of this. One week he'd look great and the next week like utter crap. Houston fans were frustrated by him for a season. Two, Jacoby has a lot of pride and right now I think being cut is really what is driving him. What happens when he feels he's proved Houston wrong for letting him go? Finally, he's essentially in a contract year. No way the Ravens pay 4 million for him next year. He's auditioning for his next contract.

Just saying gloat after the season, if he keeps this level of play up.

I am not gloating. Just reminding that many on this board wanted him cut in August. The fact is that he is already the best return man the Ravens have had since Jermaine Lewis and he's proven to be a solid #3 receiver. Could he still mess up at a critical time? Sure...but it's not like Boldin hasn't dropped crucial passes in crunch time, or Rice hasn't fumbled in playoff games, or Flacco hasn't thrown a pick-6 in an AFC Championship game.

Re: Would Jacoby Jones Be a Good Fit With Ravens?

Originally Posted by Corey

The season is still young. Plenty of time left for him to pull a Housh or Evans on us. Jacoby has been a valuable asset thus far but I am still cautious about getting to hyped over him for a number of reasons. For one, he's got a history of this. One week he'd look great and the next week like utter crap. Houston fans were frustrated by him for a season. Two, Jacoby has a lot of pride and right now I think being cut is really what is driving him. What happens when he feels he's proved Houston wrong for letting him go? Finally, he's essentially in a contract year. No way the Ravens pay 4 million for him next year. He's auditioning for his next contract.

Just saying gloat after the season, if he keeps this level of play up.

Re: Would Jacoby Jones Be a Good Fit With Ravens?

There's a major diffence in expectations between what Jones was supposed to be in Houston and what he's supposed to be here.

Jones, in Houston, was supposed to be a star. He never lived up to that.

Here, he just needs to contribute as a 3rd WR and be a good KR.

So far, he's done that.

As far as pulling a "Housh or Evans", that can happen to any player (Boldin and Mason, included). After all, neither Housh or Evans were ever known for anything like that, but it happened to them.

Regardless, I would suggest that Jones as already had a bigger impact than either of them did.

But, if Jones drops a pass in a huge setting, after having a great season, does that totally wipe away everything else he did? Seriously? All the other contributions he made along the way - that helped them get there - mean nothing?

Sorry, I don't buy that.

Perhaps, it will for those who don't want to be proven wrong because they didn't like the signing in the beginning, because it will give them something to make them feel better and be able to point to when saying "I told you so", but, sorry, I think that's ridiculous.

Re: Would Jacoby Jones Be a Good Fit With Ravens?

Originally Posted by JohnBKistler

I am not gloating. Just reminding that many on this board wanted him cut in August. The fact is that he is already the best return man the Ravens have had since Jermaine Lewis and he's proven to be a solid #3 receiver. Could he still mess up at a critical time? Sure...but it's not like Boldin hasn't dropped crucial passes in crunch time, or Rice hasn't fumbled in playoff games, or Flacco hasn't thrown a pick-6 in an AFC Championship game.

There was another thread from August that was almost comical in it's "I told you so" nature, even before anything had even happened!

As I said in that thread - perhaps, we should all just wait and see what happens before we decide whether signing Jones was a good or bad move.

So far, the results have been fantastic, but there's certainly still plenty of time for it to go south.

Re: Would Jacoby Jones Be a Good Fit With Ravens?

There's a major diffence in expectations between what Jones was supposed to be in Houston and what he's supposed to be here.

Jones, in Houston, was supposed to be a star. He never lived up to that.

Here, he just needs to contribute as a 3rd WR and be a good KR.

So far, he's done that.

As far as pulling a "Housh or Evans", that can happen to any player (Boldin and Mason, included). After all, neither Housh or Evans were ever known for anything like that, but it happened to them.

Regardless, I would suggest that Jones as already had a bigger impact than either of them did.

But, if Jones drops a pass in a huge setting, after having a great season, does that totally wipe away everything else he did? Seriously? All the other contributions he made along the way - that helped them get there - mean nothing?

Sorry, I don't buy that.

Perhaps, it will for those who don't want to be proven wrong because they didn't like the signing in the beginning, because it will give them something to make them feel better and be able to point to when saying "I told you so", but, sorry, I think that's ridiculous.

Unfortunately, some people here want to be able to say "I told you" so more than see the team and players succeed.

Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.

Re: Would Jacoby Jones Be a Good Fit With Ravens?

I have no problem saying i was wrong about him. Hes been a great addition. I did do my own thread giving him a formal apology, in my defense. Hes been about as sure handed as you can ask for. his role is somewhat limited with being 3rd and splitting with Doss but im in favor of more 3 or even 4 wr sets because of his play but that may also be asking for too much from him. Looking forward to how he handles himself in Pitt sunday.

Re: Would Jacoby Jones Be a Good Fit With Ravens?

I'll throw my hat in the ring for people who were wrong, and are GLAD to be wrong. Doesn't mean JJ won't screw up somewhere along the way, but it won't erase the contributions he's made thus far, which are already VERY impressive. He's been one of the best bang-for-buck FA acquisitions of the last few years.

Not only has he been a great special teams player, but he's been so good as a part-time offensive player that he's really making a case for more playing time. He's not going to climb above #3 on the depth chart, but when we go 3-wide with him and Smith outside and Boldin in the slot we really have a lot of passing-game talent on the field and we can still run the ball very effectively.

Re: Would Jacoby Jones Be a Good Fit With Ravens?

Originally Posted by bmorecareful

I'll throw my hat in the ring for people who were wrong, and are GLAD to be wrong. Doesn't mean JJ won't screw up somewhere along the way, but it won't erase the contributions he's made thus far, which are already VERY impressive. He's been one of the best bang-for-buck FA acquisitions of the last few years.

Not only has he been a great special teams player, but he's been so good as a part-time offensive player that he's really making a case for more playing time. He's not going to climb above #3 on the depth chart, but when we go 3-wide with him and Smith outside and Boldin in the slot we really have a lot of passing-game talent on the field and we can still run the ball very effectively.

Me too. I've even owned up to it and eaten some crow about this topic in other threads. Jacoby has been a major surprise and I didn't think he'd be able to contribute nearly as much as he has. I find it interesting that he is splitting time with Doss now, so maybe that is indicative that Doss is getting a lot better?

Regardless, Jacoby has been a big asset for special teams and has been a solid #3 receiver. Had it not been for a bogus OPI call, he would have won the game in Philly with a last minute TD grab.

Re: Would Jacoby Jones Be a Good Fit With Ravens?

There's a major diffence in expectations between what Jones was supposed to be in Houston and what he's supposed to be here.

Jones, in Houston, was supposed to be a star. He never lived up to that.

Here, he just needs to contribute as a 3rd WR and be a good KR.

So far, he's done that.

As far as pulling a "Housh or Evans", that can happen to any player (Boldin and Mason, included). After all, neither Housh or Evans were ever known for anything like that, but it happened to them.

Regardless, I would suggest that Jones as already had a bigger impact than either of them did.

But, if Jones drops a pass in a huge setting, after having a great season, does that totally wipe away everything else he did? Seriously? All the other contributions he made along the way - that helped them get there - mean nothing?

Sorry, I don't buy that.
Perhaps, it will for those who don't want to be proven wrong because they didn't like the signing in the beginning, because it will give them something to make them feel better and be able to point to when saying "I told you so", but, sorry, I think that's ridiculous.

Sorry but I am not one of those people. I've given Jones his props plenty of times this season. I even started a thread about it after he drew that big PI at the end of the NE game.

I'll gladly be wrong about Jones being a bad signing. I just keep my expectations for him at rock bottom because I know he's got an inconsistent track record. In my mind anything we get from him is extra.