Son facing eviction from Brighton home before dad is cremated

A griving son is being threatened with eviction from his family home before his father has even been cremated.

Jamie Creighton has lived in the same local authority-owned house since 1989 with his mother and father.

However, after caring for his father until he died last month, Brighton and Hove City Council has threatened him with an eviction notice claiming the two-bedroom property in Normanhurst, Grove Hill, Brighton, cannot be passed over to him.

The local authority says the two-bedroom property is under-occupied, adding that it has more than 12,000 people on its housing waiting list.

But Mr Creighton, who was a full-time carer for his ill father, claims it will mean he is homeless and jobless in the run-up to Christmas.

The 45-year-old said: “I’m not sleeping, I’m not eating – I’m in constant shock and it’s really affecting me “All I ask is for the council to have a little compassion. He’s not even cremated yet.

“I’ve got my father’s death, I was his full time carer so I have a job to find and now I have to find somewhere to live without having any time to get a deposit together.

“They are making one person homeless to house two people.”

Family members

The issue revolves around the Government’s 1985 Housing Act, which states possession of council houses can only be transferred between family members once.

The local authority claims the legal possession of the home passed from a joint-tenancy between Mr Creighton’s parents to solely his father when his mother died.

This means, after his father James, 81, died on November 11, Mr Creighton cannot take it over.

There have been a number of similar cases in recent years in the city.

It was so contentious that more than 30 of Brighton and Hove’s elected housing representatives wrote to the Queen in 2010 asking for the sub-clause in housing succession law to be reviewed.

A council spokesman said it was not able to comment on individual cases.

National rules

In a statement, the spokesman added: “Our rules around succession rights are laid down under national legislation and have to be applied fairly to everyone and this becomes even more important in a city where demand massively outstrips supply.

“We are clear about our policy and this is that there is one succession right to a council tenancy.

“In the case of joint tenants, where one tenant dies then the surviving tenant succeeds as a sole tenant and this then uses the succession right.

“The council is sympathetic to people left in occupation that are unable to succeed, and always offers appropriate advice and assistance to help them find a suitable home.

“We do understand that the period following bereavement can be emotionally difficult for relatives, and try to be as sensitive as possible.”

Talking point: To what extent should councils have more flexibility when it comes to allowing people to stay in their family home?

Comments

They should move him to a smaller flat not evict him. Unbelieveably callous. No wonder people have such hatred for the council

They should move him to a smaller flat not evict him. Unbelieveably callous. No wonder people have such hatred for the councilleobrighton

They should move him to a smaller flat not evict him. Unbelieveably callous. No wonder people have such hatred for the council

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Tom V
1:51pm Mon 3 Dec 12

I am sympathetic, especially as he's only just lost his father. They should give him x months to secure a new home but I don't believe council housing should be seen as an inheritance. No one's entitled to live in the same house for years unless they own it.

It's a sad situation but council houses are there for people who truly need them and a family could live there. The council, in this case, could try to find him a one-bedroom home and allow him to mourn his father in peace.

I am sympathetic, especially as he's only just lost his father. They should give him x months to secure a new home but I don't believe council housing should be seen as an inheritance. No one's entitled to live in the same house for years unless they own it.
It's a sad situation but council houses are there for people who truly need them and a family could live there. The council, in this case, could try to find him a one-bedroom home and allow him to mourn his father in peace.Tom V

I am sympathetic, especially as he's only just lost his father. They should give him x months to secure a new home but I don't believe council housing should be seen as an inheritance. No one's entitled to live in the same house for years unless they own it.

It's a sad situation but council houses are there for people who truly need them and a family could live there. The council, in this case, could try to find him a one-bedroom home and allow him to mourn his father in peace.

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Corn Hill
1:59pm Mon 3 Dec 12

Its a shame to evict this gent when there are so many council properties boarded up in the city, especially after his recent loss.
That flat has been his HOME for nearly quarter of a century.

Proud to be British?

Its a shame to evict this gent when there are so many council properties boarded up in the city, especially after his recent loss.
That flat has been his HOME for nearly quarter of a century.
Proud to be British?Corn Hill

Its a shame to evict this gent when there are so many council properties boarded up in the city, especially after his recent loss.
That flat has been his HOME for nearly quarter of a century.

Proud to be British?

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tooned_in
2:00pm Mon 3 Dec 12

I cant believe they can evict this gentleman so easily when I had nightmare neighbours who sold drugs, took drugs, had anti social people including heroin users & alcoholics injecting and disgarding needles in stairwells, police out almost every other day (no word if a lie) and they couldnt evict this repeat offender.....however if you share with a family member who passes ...yep your out mate!!! disgusting behaviour from b&h city council...they really need to address their policies..
best wishes to you Mr Creighton

I cant believe they can evict this gentleman so easily when I had nightmare neighbours who sold drugs, took drugs, had anti social people including heroin users & alcoholics injecting and disgarding needles in stairwells, police out almost every other day (no word if a lie) and they couldnt evict this repeat offender.....however if you share with a family member who passes ...yep your out mate!!! disgusting behaviour from b&h city council...they really need to address their policies..
best wishes to you Mr Creightontooned_in

I cant believe they can evict this gentleman so easily when I had nightmare neighbours who sold drugs, took drugs, had anti social people including heroin users & alcoholics injecting and disgarding needles in stairwells, police out almost every other day (no word if a lie) and they couldnt evict this repeat offender.....however if you share with a family member who passes ...yep your out mate!!! disgusting behaviour from b&h city council...they really need to address their policies..
best wishes to you Mr Creighton

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egym64
2:06pm Mon 3 Dec 12

Tom V wrote…

I am sympathetic, especially as he's only just lost his father. They should give him x months to secure a new home but I don't believe council housing should be seen as an inheritance. No one's entitled to live in the same house for years unless they own it.

It's a sad situation but council houses are there for people who truly need them and a family could live there. The council, in this case, could try to find him a one-bedroom home and allow him to mourn his father in peace.

I agree.
Their are too many people living in overcrowded Council properties.
They should give him time for his Fathers funeral and then move him into temporary accommodation until he finds work. The Credit Union can help him save for a deposit with the Council run deposit scheme. He's not ill/disabled/has kids so there's no need for him to have a 2 bedroom flat. Those days are long gone!!

[quote][p][bold]Tom V[/bold] wrote:
I am sympathetic, especially as he's only just lost his father. They should give him x months to secure a new home but I don't believe council housing should be seen as an inheritance. No one's entitled to live in the same house for years unless they own it.
It's a sad situation but council houses are there for people who truly need them and a family could live there. The council, in this case, could try to find him a one-bedroom home and allow him to mourn his father in peace.[/p][/quote]I agree.
Their are too many people living in overcrowded Council properties.
They should give him time for his Fathers funeral and then move him into temporary accommodation until he finds work. The Credit Union can help him save for a deposit with the Council run deposit scheme. He's not ill/disabled/has kids so there's no need for him to have a 2 bedroom flat. Those days are long gone!!egym64

Tom V wrote…

I am sympathetic, especially as he's only just lost his father. They should give him x months to secure a new home but I don't believe council housing should be seen as an inheritance. No one's entitled to live in the same house for years unless they own it.

It's a sad situation but council houses are there for people who truly need them and a family could live there. The council, in this case, could try to find him a one-bedroom home and allow him to mourn his father in peace.

I agree.
Their are too many people living in overcrowded Council properties.
They should give him time for his Fathers funeral and then move him into temporary accommodation until he finds work. The Credit Union can help him save for a deposit with the Council run deposit scheme. He's not ill/disabled/has kids so there's no need for him to have a 2 bedroom flat. Those days are long gone!!

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kkj
2:14pm Mon 3 Dec 12

tooned_in wrote…

I cant believe they can evict this gentleman so easily when I had nightmare neighbours who sold drugs, took drugs, had anti social people including heroin users & alcoholics injecting and disgarding needles in stairwells, police out almost every other day (no word if a lie) and they couldnt evict this repeat offender.....however if you share with a family member who passes ...yep your out mate!!! disgusting behaviour from b&h city council...they really need to address their policies..
best wishes to you Mr Creighton

As stated in the report, this is enshrined in law, its not a council policy.

Maybe they could or should have been a bit more sensitive over the way they have handled it, but without knowing the full facts of the case, its pure supposition.

[quote][p][bold]tooned_in[/bold] wrote:
I cant believe they can evict this gentleman so easily when I had nightmare neighbours who sold drugs, took drugs, had anti social people including heroin users & alcoholics injecting and disgarding needles in stairwells, police out almost every other day (no word if a lie) and they couldnt evict this repeat offender.....however if you share with a family member who passes ...yep your out mate!!! disgusting behaviour from b&h city council...they really need to address their policies..
best wishes to you Mr Creighton[/p][/quote]As stated in the report, this is enshrined in law, its not a council policy.
Maybe they could or should have been a bit more sensitive over the way they have handled it, but without knowing the full facts of the case, its pure supposition.kkj

tooned_in wrote…

I cant believe they can evict this gentleman so easily when I had nightmare neighbours who sold drugs, took drugs, had anti social people including heroin users & alcoholics injecting and disgarding needles in stairwells, police out almost every other day (no word if a lie) and they couldnt evict this repeat offender.....however if you share with a family member who passes ...yep your out mate!!! disgusting behaviour from b&h city council...they really need to address their policies..
best wishes to you Mr Creighton

As stated in the report, this is enshrined in law, its not a council policy.

Maybe they could or should have been a bit more sensitive over the way they have handled it, but without knowing the full facts of the case, its pure supposition.

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tooned_in
2:18pm Mon 3 Dec 12

Yes but the council seem to enforce some laws alot faster than others as do the local boys & girls in Blue it seems.

Yes but the council seem to enforce some laws alot faster than others as do the local boys & girls in Blue it seems.tooned_in

Yes but the council seem to enforce some laws alot faster than others as do the local boys & girls in Blue it seems.

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redwing
2:34pm Mon 3 Dec 12

"The local authority says the two-bedroom property is under-occupied".
What's that's got to do with it?
They're evicting him because the joint tenancy his parents held was amended to a sole tenancy for his widowed father and that action has used up the family's succession rights.
They are as good as putting him on the street. He's been a carer, his paid employment record is poor. Getting a job is probably a dream and without that he's no hope of getting a private landlord to accept him as a tenant, never mind finding a deposit/advance rent.
If underoccupation is really the issue the council could offer him a tenancy of a one-bedroom or studio flat, but instead they're kicking him out, passing the buck and hiding behind unfair regulations.
A decent home should be a basic human right.
We're a sad country in a sad world.

"The local authority says the two-bedroom property is under-occupied".
What's that's got to do with it?
They're evicting him because the joint tenancy his parents held was amended to a sole tenancy for his widowed father and that action has used up the family's succession rights.
They are as good as putting him on the street. He's been a carer, his paid employment record is poor. Getting a job is probably a dream and without that he's no hope of getting a private landlord to accept him as a tenant, never mind finding a deposit/advance rent.
If underoccupation is really the issue the council could offer him a tenancy of a one-bedroom or studio flat, but instead they're kicking him out, passing the buck and hiding behind unfair regulations.
A decent home should be a basic human right.
We're a sad country in a sad world.redwing

"The local authority says the two-bedroom property is under-occupied".
What's that's got to do with it?
They're evicting him because the joint tenancy his parents held was amended to a sole tenancy for his widowed father and that action has used up the family's succession rights.
They are as good as putting him on the street. He's been a carer, his paid employment record is poor. Getting a job is probably a dream and without that he's no hope of getting a private landlord to accept him as a tenant, never mind finding a deposit/advance rent.
If underoccupation is really the issue the council could offer him a tenancy of a one-bedroom or studio flat, but instead they're kicking him out, passing the buck and hiding behind unfair regulations.
A decent home should be a basic human right.
We're a sad country in a sad world.

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mfc1960
2:36pm Mon 3 Dec 12

This man has spent time caring for his sick father and now is in the position he needs to find work , come on B&H council have a heart. Wot happened to goodwill to all men.

This man has spent time caring for his sick father and now is in the position he needs to find work , come on B&H council have a heart. Wot happened to goodwill to all men.mfc1960

This man has spent time caring for his sick father and now is in the position he needs to find work , come on B&H council have a heart. Wot happened to goodwill to all men.

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Morpheus
2:38pm Mon 3 Dec 12

Does this also mean that if the father had re-married and the son still lived there that both the wife and son would be kicked out.

Surely, creating a family home should imply some stability even with a council house.

Does this also mean that if the father had re-married and the son still lived there that both the wife and son would be kicked out.
Surely, creating a family home should imply some stability even with a council house.Morpheus

Does this also mean that if the father had re-married and the son still lived there that both the wife and son would be kicked out.

Surely, creating a family home should imply some stability even with a council house.

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Algeria Touchshriek
2:42pm Mon 3 Dec 12

It just goes to prove my pointthat the snot Greens are a party of hate.

It just goes to prove my pointthat the snot Greens are a party of hate.
BNP hate immigrants, the snot Greens seem to hate everybody who doesn't vote for them.
I hope it all works out for this poor chap.Algeria Touchshriek

It just goes to prove my pointthat the snot Greens are a party of hate.

In principle, the Council are correct, but, they should be a bit more sensitive and understanding to the position the chap is in now his Father has passed away.

Sympathies to this chap.
In principle, the Council are correct, but, they should be a bit more sensitive and understanding to the position the chap is in now his Father has passed away.Crystal Ball

Sympathies to this chap.

In principle, the Council are correct, but, they should be a bit more sensitive and understanding to the position the chap is in now his Father has passed away.

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John Steed
3:03pm Mon 3 Dec 12

Crystal Ball wrote…

Sympathies to this chap.

In principle, the Council are correct, but, they should be a bit more sensitive and understanding to the position the chap is in now his Father has passed away.

noted that he was a full time carer, so now he is unemployed and being evicted, in these circumstances the council probally have a duty to house him, agreed however not nessacarily in a two bed room flat, let us hope that he takes priority over the overspill from london being placed out of the metropolis in advance of the changes in housing benefit next year, when LA,s will have a duty to house, but the housing benefit levels will not pay city rents so they are taking over houses here there and every where.

[quote][p][bold]Crystal Ball[/bold] wrote:
Sympathies to this chap.
In principle, the Council are correct, but, they should be a bit more sensitive and understanding to the position the chap is in now his Father has passed away.[/p][/quote]noted that he was a full time carer, so now he is unemployed and being evicted, in these circumstances the council probally have a duty to house him, agreed however not nessacarily in a two bed room flat, let us hope that he takes priority over the overspill from london being placed out of the metropolis in advance of the changes in housing benefit next year, when LA,s will have a duty to house, but the housing benefit levels will not pay city rents so they are taking over houses here there and every where.John Steed

Crystal Ball wrote…

Sympathies to this chap.

In principle, the Council are correct, but, they should be a bit more sensitive and understanding to the position the chap is in now his Father has passed away.

noted that he was a full time carer, so now he is unemployed and being evicted, in these circumstances the council probally have a duty to house him, agreed however not nessacarily in a two bed room flat, let us hope that he takes priority over the overspill from london being placed out of the metropolis in advance of the changes in housing benefit next year, when LA,s will have a duty to house, but the housing benefit levels will not pay city rents so they are taking over houses here there and every where.

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Unbias
3:10pm Mon 3 Dec 12

Tom V wrote…

I am sympathetic, especially as he's only just lost his father. They should give him x months to secure a new home but I don't believe council housing should be seen as an inheritance. No one's entitled to live in the same house for years unless they own it. It's a sad situation but council houses are there for people who truly need them and a family could live there. The council, in this case, could try to find him a one-bedroom home and allow him to mourn his father in peace.

Very well said.

[quote][p][bold]Tom V[/bold] wrote:
I am sympathetic, especially as he's only just lost his father. They should give him x months to secure a new home but I don't believe council housing should be seen as an inheritance. No one's entitled to live in the same house for years unless they own it. It's a sad situation but council houses are there for people who truly need them and a family could live there. The council, in this case, could try to find him a one-bedroom home and allow him to mourn his father in peace.[/p][/quote]Very well said.Unbias

Tom V wrote…

I am sympathetic, especially as he's only just lost his father. They should give him x months to secure a new home but I don't believe council housing should be seen as an inheritance. No one's entitled to live in the same house for years unless they own it. It's a sad situation but council houses are there for people who truly need them and a family could live there. The council, in this case, could try to find him a one-bedroom home and allow him to mourn his father in peace.

Very well said.

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Joshiman
3:56pm Mon 3 Dec 12

Disgarceful!!!!!!!!A
nd who will get the flat?Guess? Obvious

Disgarceful!!!!!!!!A
nd who will get the flat?Guess? ObviousJoshiman

Disgarceful!!!!!!!!A
nd who will get the flat?Guess? Obvious

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Hove Actually
4:05pm Mon 3 Dec 12

The answer is for everyone to learn from this a bass the tenancy onto the child once one of the parents die.

Strange that they claim the one and only legal possession passed between the same person, sounds like a very strict interpritation to me and one I wonder if they would apply to a GLBTG or Traveller or Ethnic or Immigrant or disabled person

The answer is for everyone to learn from this a bass the tenancy onto the child once one of the parents die.
Strange that they claim the one and only legal possession passed between the same person, sounds like a very strict interpritation to me and one I wonder if they would apply to a GLBTG or Traveller or Ethnic or Immigrant or disabled personHove Actually

The answer is for everyone to learn from this a bass the tenancy onto the child once one of the parents die.

Strange that they claim the one and only legal possession passed between the same person, sounds like a very strict interpritation to me and one I wonder if they would apply to a GLBTG or Traveller or Ethnic or Immigrant or disabled person

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Andy R
4:33pm Mon 3 Dec 12

Algeria Touchshriek wrote…

It just goes to prove my pointthat the snot Greens are a party of hate. BNP hate immigrants, the snot Greens seem to hate everybody who doesn't vote for them. I hope it all works out for this poor chap.

Never mind, I'm sure you'll get back to us with exactly how it's anything to do with the Greens once you managed to work it out. Along with the skinny on how you can divine anyone's voting habits just by looking at a photo of them.

Doh.......

[quote][p][bold]Algeria Touchshriek[/bold] wrote:
It just goes to prove my pointthat the snot Greens are a party of hate. BNP hate immigrants, the snot Greens seem to hate everybody who doesn't vote for them. I hope it all works out for this poor chap.[/p][/quote]Never mind, I'm sure you'll get back to us with exactly how it's anything to do with the Greens once you managed to work it out. Along with the skinny on how you can divine anyone's voting habits just by looking at a photo of them.
Doh.......Andy R

Algeria Touchshriek wrote…

It just goes to prove my pointthat the snot Greens are a party of hate. BNP hate immigrants, the snot Greens seem to hate everybody who doesn't vote for them. I hope it all works out for this poor chap.

Never mind, I'm sure you'll get back to us with exactly how it's anything to do with the Greens once you managed to work it out. Along with the skinny on how you can divine anyone's voting habits just by looking at a photo of them.

Doh.......

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Maxwell's Ghost
5:27pm Mon 3 Dec 12

To be fair Andy R you have to be rich to vote Green as can be seen by the ward which elected Green councillors.
The wards which elected Greens had an ABC1 demographic, the wealthier corss-section of the city.
This is why there is such a kick back because that demographic is not representative of the city in general.
But I agree, you cannot tell by looking at someone if they voted Green.

To be fair Andy R you have to be rich to vote Green as can be seen by the ward which elected Green councillors.
The wards which elected Greens had an ABC1 demographic, the wealthier corss-section of the city.
This is why there is such a kick back because that demographic is not representative of the city in general.
But I agree, you cannot tell by looking at someone if they voted Green.Maxwell's Ghost

To be fair Andy R you have to be rich to vote Green as can be seen by the ward which elected Green councillors.
The wards which elected Greens had an ABC1 demographic, the wealthier corss-section of the city.
This is why there is such a kick back because that demographic is not representative of the city in general.
But I agree, you cannot tell by looking at someone if they voted Green.

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Algeria Touchshriek
5:40pm Mon 3 Dec 12

Who is saying the chap votes Green?

Who is saying the chap votes Green?Algeria Touchshriek

Who is saying the chap votes Green?

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ShorehamBeachcomber
6:23pm Mon 3 Dec 12

He can't have not worked for 23 years though so why hasn't he moved out at some point? If he hasn't worked for any of that time it's not before time he's out

He can't have not worked for 23 years though so why hasn't he moved out at some point? If he hasn't worked for any of that time it's not before time he's outShorehamBeachcomber

He can't have not worked for 23 years though so why hasn't he moved out at some point? If he hasn't worked for any of that time it's not before time he's out

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Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit
6:32pm Mon 3 Dec 12

Crystal Ball wrote…

Sympathies to this chap.

In principle, the Council are correct, but, they should be a bit more sensitive and understanding to the position the chap is in now his Father has passed away.

Agreed. The compassionate approach would be to have reassured him that he would NOT be made homeless, but that he would have to move to 'more suitable' accommodation once it became available. In turn his larger property could then be used for a family.

As others have said you can't 'own' a council property and pass it down to your descendants, but they didn't have to be quite so heavy-handed about it.

[quote][p][bold]Crystal Ball[/bold] wrote:
Sympathies to this chap.
In principle, the Council are correct, but, they should be a bit more sensitive and understanding to the position the chap is in now his Father has passed away.[/p][/quote]Agreed. The compassionate approach would be to have reassured him that he would NOT be made homeless, but that he would have to move to 'more suitable' accommodation once it became available. In turn his larger property could then be used for a family.
As others have said you can't 'own' a council property and pass it down to your descendants, but they didn't have to be quite so heavy-handed about it.Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit

Crystal Ball wrote…

Sympathies to this chap.

In principle, the Council are correct, but, they should be a bit more sensitive and understanding to the position the chap is in now his Father has passed away.

Agreed. The compassionate approach would be to have reassured him that he would NOT be made homeless, but that he would have to move to 'more suitable' accommodation once it became available. In turn his larger property could then be used for a family.

As others have said you can't 'own' a council property and pass it down to your descendants, but they didn't have to be quite so heavy-handed about it.

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Valerie Paynter
8:16pm Mon 3 Dec 12

This is not an unusual case. And BHCC has had years and years in which to modify policy and not done it.

Where I live this happened to a woman when her mother died. A 2-bed like this man. She had been sole carer. i believe she eventually got a one bed flat in the same building from the council and this is as it should be.

If this man has been a sole carer and saved the council a huge amount of money that would otherwise have been needed to pay for home help or a residential home place for his father, then he and those in similar situations should be entitled to a one-bed council flat.

I do not believe he will not be evicted before Christmas. He may be getting ugly pressure though. And the council need to negotiate a proper outcome that does not see him homeless.

This is not an unusual case. And BHCC has had years and years in which to modify policy and not done it.
Where I live this happened to a woman when her mother died. A 2-bed like this man. She had been sole carer. i believe she eventually got a one bed flat in the same building from the council and this is as it should be.
If this man has been a sole carer and saved the council a huge amount of money that would otherwise have been needed to pay for home help or a residential home place for his father, then he and those in similar situations should be entitled to a one-bed council flat.
I do not believe he will not be evicted before Christmas. He may be getting ugly pressure though. And the council need to negotiate a proper outcome that does not see him homeless.Valerie Paynter

This is not an unusual case. And BHCC has had years and years in which to modify policy and not done it.

Where I live this happened to a woman when her mother died. A 2-bed like this man. She had been sole carer. i believe she eventually got a one bed flat in the same building from the council and this is as it should be.

If this man has been a sole carer and saved the council a huge amount of money that would otherwise have been needed to pay for home help or a residential home place for his father, then he and those in similar situations should be entitled to a one-bed council flat.

I do not believe he will not be evicted before Christmas. He may be getting ugly pressure though. And the council need to negotiate a proper outcome that does not see him homeless.

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lola67
8:26pm Mon 3 Dec 12

thankyou all so much for your messages of support,

for the record i was in full time employment up until i stopped and became a full time carer for my father,this is where i think my problems started,ie if id still carried on working i could have saved for a deposit and moving would have not been a problem.
the trouble is being on carers allowance you obviously cant save and so im faced with no money for a deposit etc.

i would give my right arm to find a job at the moment instead of feeling the way i do.
j.

thankyou all so much for your messages of support,
for the record i was in full time employment up until i stopped and became a full time carer for my father,this is where i think my problems started,ie if id still carried on working i could have saved for a deposit and moving would have not been a problem.
the trouble is being on carers allowance you obviously cant save and so im faced with no money for a deposit etc.
i would give my right arm to find a job at the moment instead of feeling the way i do.
j.lola67

thankyou all so much for your messages of support,

for the record i was in full time employment up until i stopped and became a full time carer for my father,this is where i think my problems started,ie if id still carried on working i could have saved for a deposit and moving would have not been a problem.
the trouble is being on carers allowance you obviously cant save and so im faced with no money for a deposit etc.

i would give my right arm to find a job at the moment instead of feeling the way i do.
j.

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Dirk Von Roden
8:31pm Mon 3 Dec 12

I am a "Royalist" but if this is the case "the poperty can not be passed on to a relative and under occupancy as well " lets think who lives in an under occupied property that belongs to the state? has been passed down for generations ?
Think about it LOL
The 85 Law was made by guess who?? "The Tories"!!!

I am a "Royalist" but if this is the case "the poperty can not be passed on to a relative and under occupancy as well " lets think who lives in an under occupied property that belongs to the state? has been passed down for generations ?
Think about it LOL
The 85 Law was made by guess who?? "The Tories"!!!Dirk Von Roden

I am a "Royalist" but if this is the case "the poperty can not be passed on to a relative and under occupancy as well " lets think who lives in an under occupied property that belongs to the state? has been passed down for generations ?
Think about it LOL
The 85 Law was made by guess who?? "The Tories"!!!

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lordenglandofsussex
9:06pm Mon 3 Dec 12

B&H City Council: Scum of the earth.

B&H City Council: Scum of the earth.lordenglandofsussex

B&H City Council: Scum of the earth.

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Brighton_Toffee
9:29pm Mon 3 Dec 12

lola67 wrote…

thankyou all so much for your messages of support,

for the record i was in full time employment up until i stopped and became a full time carer for my father,this is where i think my problems started,ie if id still carried on working i could have saved for a deposit and moving would have not been a problem.
the trouble is being on carers allowance you obviously cant save and so im faced with no money for a deposit etc.

i would give my right arm to find a job at the moment instead of feeling the way i do.
j.

My sympathies (subject to you truly being the subject of this article).
Sadly, it would seem, BHCC is applying the letter of the law in this case rather than the spirit.
However: if you have been a full time carer for whatever reason have you ever considered contacting the Carers Centre for support?
Their number is 01273 746222 and, whilst they cannot wave a magic wand they might be able to help.
Good luck
http://www.thecarers
centre.org/

[quote][p][bold]lola67[/bold] wrote:
thankyou all so much for your messages of support,
for the record i was in full time employment up until i stopped and became a full time carer for my father,this is where i think my problems started,ie if id still carried on working i could have saved for a deposit and moving would have not been a problem.
the trouble is being on carers allowance you obviously cant save and so im faced with no money for a deposit etc.
i would give my right arm to find a job at the moment instead of feeling the way i do.
j.[/p][/quote]My sympathies (subject to you truly being the subject of this article).
Sadly, it would seem, BHCC is applying the letter of the law in this case rather than the spirit.
However: if you have been a full time carer for whatever reason have you ever considered contacting the Carers Centre for support?
Their number is 01273 746222 and, whilst they cannot wave a magic wand they might be able to help.
Good luck
http://www.thecarers
centre.org/Brighton_Toffee

lola67 wrote…

thankyou all so much for your messages of support,

for the record i was in full time employment up until i stopped and became a full time carer for my father,this is where i think my problems started,ie if id still carried on working i could have saved for a deposit and moving would have not been a problem.
the trouble is being on carers allowance you obviously cant save and so im faced with no money for a deposit etc.

i would give my right arm to find a job at the moment instead of feeling the way i do.
j.

My sympathies (subject to you truly being the subject of this article).
Sadly, it would seem, BHCC is applying the letter of the law in this case rather than the spirit.
However: if you have been a full time carer for whatever reason have you ever considered contacting the Carers Centre for support?
Their number is 01273 746222 and, whilst they cannot wave a magic wand they might be able to help.
Good luck
http://www.thecarers
centre.org/

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mictrix
9:40pm Mon 3 Dec 12

Dirk Von Roden wrote…

I am a "Royalist" but if this is the case "the poperty can not be passed on to a relative and under occupancy as well " lets think who lives in an under occupied property that belongs to the state? has been passed down for generations ?
Think about it LOL
The 85 Law was made by guess who?? "The Tories"!!!

i don't think anyones got a clue what the hell your on about...stupid person

[quote][p][bold]Dirk Von Roden[/bold] wrote:
I am a "Royalist" but if this is the case "the poperty can not be passed on to a relative and under occupancy as well " lets think who lives in an under occupied property that belongs to the state? has been passed down for generations ?
Think about it LOL
The 85 Law was made by guess who?? "The Tories"!!![/p][/quote]i don't think anyones got a clue what the hell your on about...stupid personmictrix

Dirk Von Roden wrote…

I am a "Royalist" but if this is the case "the poperty can not be passed on to a relative and under occupancy as well " lets think who lives in an under occupied property that belongs to the state? has been passed down for generations ?
Think about it LOL
The 85 Law was made by guess who?? "The Tories"!!!

i don't think anyones got a clue what the hell your on about...stupid person

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mictrix
9:43pm Mon 3 Dec 12

Hove Actually wrote…

The answer is for everyone to learn from this a bass the tenancy onto the child once one of the parents die.

Strange that they claim the one and only legal possession passed between the same person, sounds like a very strict interpritation to me and one I wonder if they would apply to a GLBTG or Traveller or Ethnic or Immigrant or disabled person

exactly...

[quote][p][bold]Hove Actually[/bold] wrote:
The answer is for everyone to learn from this a bass the tenancy onto the child once one of the parents die.
Strange that they claim the one and only legal possession passed between the same person, sounds like a very strict interpritation to me and one I wonder if they would apply to a GLBTG or Traveller or Ethnic or Immigrant or disabled person[/p][/quote]exactly...mictrix

Hove Actually wrote…

The answer is for everyone to learn from this a bass the tenancy onto the child once one of the parents die.

Strange that they claim the one and only legal possession passed between the same person, sounds like a very strict interpritation to me and one I wonder if they would apply to a GLBTG or Traveller or Ethnic or Immigrant or disabled person

exactly...

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lola67
9:46pm Mon 3 Dec 12

Brighton_Toffee wrote…

lola67 wrote…

thankyou all so much for your messages of support,

for the record i was in full time employment up until i stopped and became a full time carer for my father,this is where i think my problems started,ie if id still carried on working i could have saved for a deposit and moving would have not been a problem.
the trouble is being on carers allowance you obviously cant save and so im faced with no money for a deposit etc.

i would give my right arm to find a job at the moment instead of feeling the way i do.
j.

My sympathies (subject to you truly being the subject of this article).
Sadly, it would seem, BHCC is applying the letter of the law in this case rather than the spirit.
However: if you have been a full time carer for whatever reason have you ever considered contacting the Carers Centre for support?
Their number is 01273 746222 and, whilst they cannot wave a magic wand they might be able to help.
Good luck
http://www.thecarers

centre.org/

thank you,i will give them a call in the morning.

[quote][p][bold]Brighton_Toffee[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]lola67[/bold] wrote:
thankyou all so much for your messages of support,
for the record i was in full time employment up until i stopped and became a full time carer for my father,this is where i think my problems started,ie if id still carried on working i could have saved for a deposit and moving would have not been a problem.
the trouble is being on carers allowance you obviously cant save and so im faced with no money for a deposit etc.
i would give my right arm to find a job at the moment instead of feeling the way i do.
j.[/p][/quote]My sympathies (subject to you truly being the subject of this article).
Sadly, it would seem, BHCC is applying the letter of the law in this case rather than the spirit.
However: if you have been a full time carer for whatever reason have you ever considered contacting the Carers Centre for support?
Their number is 01273 746222 and, whilst they cannot wave a magic wand they might be able to help.
Good luck
http://www.thecarers
centre.org/[/p][/quote]thank you,i will give them a call in the morning.lola67

Brighton_Toffee wrote…

lola67 wrote…

thankyou all so much for your messages of support,

for the record i was in full time employment up until i stopped and became a full time carer for my father,this is where i think my problems started,ie if id still carried on working i could have saved for a deposit and moving would have not been a problem.
the trouble is being on carers allowance you obviously cant save and so im faced with no money for a deposit etc.

i would give my right arm to find a job at the moment instead of feeling the way i do.
j.

My sympathies (subject to you truly being the subject of this article).
Sadly, it would seem, BHCC is applying the letter of the law in this case rather than the spirit.
However: if you have been a full time carer for whatever reason have you ever considered contacting the Carers Centre for support?
Their number is 01273 746222 and, whilst they cannot wave a magic wand they might be able to help.
Good luck
http://www.thecarers

centre.org/

thank you,i will give them a call in the morning.

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Dealing with idiots
1:52am Tue 4 Dec 12

Vote of no confidence in the Green administration e petition now live on the Brighton and Hove City Council website. If you love your city and want to end the waste and destruction of the Greens, please sign the petition. We need 1250 signatures to get this discussed in full council. Surely there are 1250 angry people in the city who want to make a difference? Save Our City.
http://present.brigh
ton-hove.gov.uk/mgEP
etitionDisplay.aspx?
ID=360&RPID=6033530&
HPID=6033530

Vote of no confidence in the Green administration e petition now live on the Brighton and Hove City Council website. If you love your city and want to end the waste and destruction of the Greens, please sign the petition. We need 1250 signatures to get this discussed in full council. Surely there are 1250 angry people in the city who want to make a difference? Save Our City.
http://present.brigh
ton-hove.gov.uk/mgEP
etitionDisplay.aspx?
ID=360&RPID=6033530&
HPID=6033530Dealing with idiots

Vote of no confidence in the Green administration e petition now live on the Brighton and Hove City Council website. If you love your city and want to end the waste and destruction of the Greens, please sign the petition. We need 1250 signatures to get this discussed in full council. Surely there are 1250 angry people in the city who want to make a difference? Save Our City.
http://present.brigh
ton-hove.gov.uk/mgEP
etitionDisplay.aspx?
ID=360&RPID=6033530&
HPID=6033530

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Freeloaders
3:10am Tue 4 Dec 12

Best of luck my friend i really hope you find the help you need & things start to look up for you in the future.I can now understand why me & my friend saw so many people in shop door ways on Saturday night on the way home from the football.The ones we did stop & talk with all said the same as you."They just can't save the money for the deposit."All very sad this time of year & it being so cold.BHCC staff should think how they would feel.

Best of luck my friend i really hope you find the help you need & things start to look up for you in the future.I can now understand why me & my friend saw so many people in shop door ways on Saturday night on the way home from the football.The ones we did stop & talk with all said the same as you."They just can't save the money for the deposit."All very sad this time of year & it being so cold.BHCC staff should think how they would feel.Freeloaders

Best of luck my friend i really hope you find the help you need & things start to look up for you in the future.I can now understand why me & my friend saw so many people in shop door ways on Saturday night on the way home from the football.The ones we did stop & talk with all said the same as you."They just can't save the money for the deposit."All very sad this time of year & it being so cold.BHCC staff should think how they would feel.

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jackie1959
6:02am Tue 4 Dec 12

My thoughts go out to you Jamie,I am so sorry you are being treated this way,it's disgusting! I know people who have 3-4 bedroom houses,brought their family up in them,family has grown up,flown the nest,one spouse died,so they are now living alone,with 2 or 3 bedrooms left empty,why aren't they forced to move out,and go into a one bed property! It stinks.Lets hope that someone who reads your plight,is maybe kind enough to offer you a job and you manage to get on your feet.Good luck for the future,and condolences on your sad loss.x

My thoughts go out to you Jamie,I am so sorry you are being treated this way,it's disgusting! I know people who have 3-4 bedroom houses,brought their family up in them,family has grown up,flown the nest,one spouse died,so they are now living alone,with 2 or 3 bedrooms left empty,why aren't they forced to move out,and go into a one bed property! It stinks.Lets hope that someone who reads your plight,is maybe kind enough to offer you a job and you manage to get on your feet.Good luck for the future,and condolences on your sad loss.xjackie1959

My thoughts go out to you Jamie,I am so sorry you are being treated this way,it's disgusting! I know people who have 3-4 bedroom houses,brought their family up in them,family has grown up,flown the nest,one spouse died,so they are now living alone,with 2 or 3 bedrooms left empty,why aren't they forced to move out,and go into a one bed property! It stinks.Lets hope that someone who reads your plight,is maybe kind enough to offer you a job and you manage to get on your feet.Good luck for the future,and condolences on your sad loss.x

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julesgemini
8:59am Tue 4 Dec 12

They really should give him plenty of time to get an other job and sort himself out! Or give him the option to have a lodger for the second room maybe!

They really should give him plenty of time to get an other job and sort himself out! Or give him the option to have a lodger for the second room maybe!julesgemini

They really should give him plenty of time to get an other job and sort himself out! Or give him the option to have a lodger for the second room maybe!

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lola67
9:26am Tue 4 Dec 12

jackie1959 wrote…

My thoughts go out to you Jamie,I am so sorry you are being treated this way,it's disgusting! I know people who have 3-4 bedroom houses,brought their family up in them,family has grown up,flown the nest,one spouse died,so they are now living alone,with 2 or 3 bedrooms left empty,why aren't they forced to move out,and go into a one bed property! It stinks.Lets hope that someone who reads your plight,is maybe kind enough to offer you a job and you manage to get on your feet.Good luck for the future,and condolences on your sad loss.x

thanks jackie,
regarding this under occupancy rule,the council said to me that even if they could pass the tenancy to me they would still get me out because im 1 person in a 2 bedroom flat,yet i know several people in my area who are doing just that! 1 guy even requested to the council he wanted a 1 bedroom flat and they did nothing.

to be honest i dont care how many bedrooms i have or where i am,i just want some time to get over my fathers death and get back to work,it sickens me to think that they have started the ball rolling before my dad was laid to rest,clearly not being sensitive!

[quote][p][bold]jackie1959[/bold] wrote:
My thoughts go out to you Jamie,I am so sorry you are being treated this way,it's disgusting! I know people who have 3-4 bedroom houses,brought their family up in them,family has grown up,flown the nest,one spouse died,so they are now living alone,with 2 or 3 bedrooms left empty,why aren't they forced to move out,and go into a one bed property! It stinks.Lets hope that someone who reads your plight,is maybe kind enough to offer you a job and you manage to get on your feet.Good luck for the future,and condolences on your sad loss.x[/p][/quote]thanks jackie,
regarding this under occupancy rule,the council said to me that even if they could pass the tenancy to me they would still get me out because im 1 person in a 2 bedroom flat,yet i know several people in my area who are doing just that! 1 guy even requested to the council he wanted a 1 bedroom flat and they did nothing.
to be honest i dont care how many bedrooms i have or where i am,i just want some time to get over my fathers death and get back to work,it sickens me to think that they have started the ball rolling before my dad was laid to rest,clearly not being sensitive!lola67

jackie1959 wrote…

My thoughts go out to you Jamie,I am so sorry you are being treated this way,it's disgusting! I know people who have 3-4 bedroom houses,brought their family up in them,family has grown up,flown the nest,one spouse died,so they are now living alone,with 2 or 3 bedrooms left empty,why aren't they forced to move out,and go into a one bed property! It stinks.Lets hope that someone who reads your plight,is maybe kind enough to offer you a job and you manage to get on your feet.Good luck for the future,and condolences on your sad loss.x

thanks jackie,
regarding this under occupancy rule,the council said to me that even if they could pass the tenancy to me they would still get me out because im 1 person in a 2 bedroom flat,yet i know several people in my area who are doing just that! 1 guy even requested to the council he wanted a 1 bedroom flat and they did nothing.

to be honest i dont care how many bedrooms i have or where i am,i just want some time to get over my fathers death and get back to work,it sickens me to think that they have started the ball rolling before my dad was laid to rest,clearly not being sensitive!

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Capt. Sensiblé
6:16pm Tue 4 Dec 12

lola67 wrote…

Brighton_Toffee wrote…

lola67 wrote…

thankyou all so much for your messages of support,

for the record i was in full time employment up until i stopped and became a full time carer for my father,this is where i think my problems started,ie if id still carried on working i could have saved for a deposit and moving would have not been a problem.
the trouble is being on carers allowance you obviously cant save and so im faced with no money for a deposit etc.

i would give my right arm to find a job at the moment instead of feeling the way i do.
j.

My sympathies (subject to you truly being the subject of this article).
Sadly, it would seem, BHCC is applying the letter of the law in this case rather than the spirit.
However: if you have been a full time carer for whatever reason have you ever considered contacting the Carers Centre for support?
Their number is 01273 746222 and, whilst they cannot wave a magic wand they might be able to help.
Good luck
http://www.thecarers

centre.org/

thank you,i will give them a call in the morning.

Good luck mate, really feel for you, must be horrible to lose your old man and be faced with this, take care of yourself pal.

[quote][p][bold]lola67[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Brighton_Toffee[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]lola67[/bold] wrote:
thankyou all so much for your messages of support,
for the record i was in full time employment up until i stopped and became a full time carer for my father,this is where i think my problems started,ie if id still carried on working i could have saved for a deposit and moving would have not been a problem.
the trouble is being on carers allowance you obviously cant save and so im faced with no money for a deposit etc.
i would give my right arm to find a job at the moment instead of feeling the way i do.
j.[/p][/quote]My sympathies (subject to you truly being the subject of this article).
Sadly, it would seem, BHCC is applying the letter of the law in this case rather than the spirit.
However: if you have been a full time carer for whatever reason have you ever considered contacting the Carers Centre for support?
Their number is 01273 746222 and, whilst they cannot wave a magic wand they might be able to help.
Good luck
http://www.thecarers
centre.org/[/p][/quote]thank you,i will give them a call in the morning.[/p][/quote]Good luck mate, really feel for you, must be horrible to lose your old man and be faced with this, take care of yourself pal.Capt. Sensiblé

lola67 wrote…

Brighton_Toffee wrote…

lola67 wrote…

thankyou all so much for your messages of support,

for the record i was in full time employment up until i stopped and became a full time carer for my father,this is where i think my problems started,ie if id still carried on working i could have saved for a deposit and moving would have not been a problem.
the trouble is being on carers allowance you obviously cant save and so im faced with no money for a deposit etc.

i would give my right arm to find a job at the moment instead of feeling the way i do.
j.

My sympathies (subject to you truly being the subject of this article).
Sadly, it would seem, BHCC is applying the letter of the law in this case rather than the spirit.
However: if you have been a full time carer for whatever reason have you ever considered contacting the Carers Centre for support?
Their number is 01273 746222 and, whilst they cannot wave a magic wand they might be able to help.
Good luck
http://www.thecarers

centre.org/

thank you,i will give them a call in the morning.

Good luck mate, really feel for you, must be horrible to lose your old man and be faced with this, take care of yourself pal.

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Cash Cow
2:55am Mon 10 Dec 12

He should be evicted as soon as possible, there are thousands of immigrants waiting for such a property, who should be housed as soon as possible and given all the benefits they are entitled to.

He should be evicted as soon as possible, there are thousands of immigrants waiting for such a property, who should be housed as soon as possible and given all the benefits they are entitled to.Cash Cow

He should be evicted as soon as possible, there are thousands of immigrants waiting for such a property, who should be housed as soon as possible and given all the benefits they are entitled to.

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Cash Cow
2:56am Mon 10 Dec 12

Merry Christmas James.

Merry Christmas James.Cash Cow

Merry Christmas James.

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Cash Cow
2:58am Mon 10 Dec 12

Sorry! Merry Christmas Jamie.

Sorry! Merry Christmas Jamie.Cash Cow

Sorry! Merry Christmas Jamie.

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NickBrt
6:26am Mon 10 Dec 12

Mr Creighton should park a caravan in the flat, then Jason and Phelim et al will fall over themselves to help him out.

Mr Creighton should park a caravan in the flat, then Jason and Phelim et al will fall over themselves to help him out.NickBrt

Mr Creighton should park a caravan in the flat, then Jason and Phelim et al will fall over themselves to help him out.

Whats nasty about wishing somebody a Merry Christmas? Perhaps you need to take a look at yourself dear!

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jackie1959
5:42pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Reading your other comments DEAR! You are not worth bothering with anymore.Do me a favour,and go crawl back under the stone you came from.

Reading your other comments DEAR! You are not worth bothering with anymore.Do me a favour,and go crawl back under the stone you came from.jackie1959

Reading your other comments DEAR! You are not worth bothering with anymore.Do me a favour,and go crawl back under the stone you came from.

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Cash Cow
12:03am Tue 11 Dec 12

jackie1959 wrote…

Reading your other comments DEAR! You are not worth bothering with anymore.Do me a favour,and go crawl back under the stone you came from.

You replied very quickly to someone who apparently is not worth bothering with, oh righteous one, though I think you missed the point of my comment, although sarcastic, actually in support of Jamie. Whatever you think and say there is no denying some people are discriminated against while others are favoured, depending on who they are and where they are from, especially in Brighton. In this case I believe Jamie should be left alone and given the support he now deserves, and when I wished him a Merry Christmas I meant it.

[quote][p][bold]jackie1959[/bold] wrote:
Reading your other comments DEAR! You are not worth bothering with anymore.Do me a favour,and go crawl back under the stone you came from.[/p][/quote]You replied very quickly to someone who apparently is not worth bothering with, oh righteous one, though I think you missed the point of my comment, although sarcastic, actually in support of Jamie. Whatever you think and say there is no denying some people are discriminated against while others are favoured, depending on who they are and where they are from, especially in Brighton. In this case I believe Jamie should be left alone and given the support he now deserves, and when I wished him a Merry Christmas I meant it.Cash Cow

jackie1959 wrote…

Reading your other comments DEAR! You are not worth bothering with anymore.Do me a favour,and go crawl back under the stone you came from.

You replied very quickly to someone who apparently is not worth bothering with, oh righteous one, though I think you missed the point of my comment, although sarcastic, actually in support of Jamie. Whatever you think and say there is no denying some people are discriminated against while others are favoured, depending on who they are and where they are from, especially in Brighton. In this case I believe Jamie should be left alone and given the support he now deserves, and when I wished him a Merry Christmas I meant it.

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