(Original post by Observatory)
To be fair Corbyn did not win on the back of entryist votes. The membership elected him. The membership needs to grow up. .

And this is the worst part about it all. How completely disconnected and oblivious to the wants of the country can you be? So the problem isn't just the leader, it's the party membership as a whole!

The party is in big trouble at the moment. For example, Seumas Milne wealds a lot of influence when he shouldn't have been allowed anywhere such a position to do so. Then there's the anti-Semitism row. The instances that keep on coming out (3 councilors suspended today) are bad enough, but look at how many Labourites are kicking up a stink at the notion that there's even a problem. This is very very worrying for Labour.

Labour needs to get back to basics. They need to propose to the people what the people actually want. They need to be the party for the working British person again, instead of the party just for the parasites and Islamist apologetics. Unfortunately it seems they won't be able to do this at the moment because the party as an entity have absolutely no clue what the British working people want, which is why they got annihilated at the last GE and they'll get annihilated even worse at the next one.

(Original post by KimKallstrom)
And this is the worst part about it all. How completely disconnected and oblivious to the wants of the country can you be? So the problem isn't just the leader, it's the party membership as a whole!

The party is in big trouble at the moment. For example, Seumas Milne wealds a lot of influence when he shouldn't have been allowed anywhere such a position to do so. Then there's the anti-Semitism row. The instances that keep on coming out (3 councilors suspended today) are bad enough, but look at how many Labourites are kicking up a stink at the notion that there's even a problem. This is very very worrying for Labour.

Labour needs to get back to basics. They need to propose to the people what the people actually want. They need to be the party for the working British person again, instead of the party just for the parasites and Islamist apologetics. Unfortunately it seems they won't be able to do this at the moment because the party as an entity have absolutely no clue what the British working people want, which is why they got annihilated at the last GE and they'll get annihilated even worse at the next one.

Most people I speak to that voted Corbyn voted for him because he was the only one advocating a serious rethink in economic policy, which I actually think is necessary. Whilst he is incredibly dodgy, with the way they treated we miliband they were well used to media smear tactics, the difference was this time a lot of them were true.

I supported Liz Kendall, but I think on reflection Corbyn was a necessary evil in order to bring about a change in economic policy. Now they just need to ditch him and keep the economic policy whilst remaining essentially common-sense blairites in terms of everything else.

(Original post by Davij038)
Most people I speak to that voted Corbyn voted for him because he was the only one advocating a serious rethink in economic policy, which I actually think is necessary. Whilst he is incredibly dodgy, with the way they treated we miliband they were well used to media smear tactics, the difference was this time a lot of them were true.

I supported Liz Kendall, but I think on reflection Corbyn was a necessary evil in order to bring about a change in economic policy. Now they just need to ditch him and keep the economic policy whilst remaining essentially common-sense blairites in terms of everything else.

I didn't vote for him but yeah... The other lot didn't offer anything :-/