Very true, and he did go through a stretch during the middle of the season where he had totally lacked confidence.

The thing with a corner is that when they have bad moments, it's exposed in isolation, and the results are huge plays. It's harder to tell when a linebacker mis-fits vs the run or blitzes the wrong gap (and the results usually arent as devastating).

Yeah for sure. I think he is going to be really good, probably the best CB from the class. Some consistency and he'll be a pro bowler. I really can't wait until the Rams get to play the Bengals whenever that will be to see him match up with AJ again

ive seen some pretty good things from claiborne in the limited games ive seen him play in....is he that far behind janoris? i like jenkins a lot but hes kind of making a living off TD right now which would be enough to win.

ive seen some pretty good things from claiborne in the limited games ive seen him play in....is he that far behind janoris? i like jenkins a lot but hes kind of making a living off TD right now which would be enough to win.

just curious to what you guys think comparing the two

I think if Jenkins didn't have his off the field issues in college he would have been head and shoulders the #1 cb on the board. The guy was great against both AJ Green and Julio Jones for Florida. Claiborne I always liked but never really loved him. I think he can become a very good cb but for some reason I never but into the hype. Who becomes the better player in the NFL is up to Jenkins IMO. If he keeps his head on straight then I think it will be him, however he had his off field issues before the draft and then got suspended by the team in his rookie year - still a lot of variables in his career path right now

Outside of the usual rookie mistakes, Mo Claiborne has been pretty damn good. Everything that was said about his quickness, hip fluidity and natural instincts was right on, pre-draft. He can stick with pretty much anyone, and has been more physical than i expected (though there was a game where he was targeted by the refs pretty bad, they called like three or four illegal touching/holding/pi's on him). His ball skills are very good, he has a knack for playing the ball right as it's coming into the WR's hands, so i love that. We haven't had that in a while. Overall, for a rookie, i'd say he's having a B+ year. Once we get some actual NFL safeties, we'll be pretty shut down at both corner spots.

Outside of the usual rookie mistakes, Mo Claiborne has been pretty damn good. Everything that was said about his quickness, hip fluidity and natural instincts was right on, pre-draft. He can stick with pretty much anyone, and has been more physical than i expected (though there was a game where he was targeted by the refs pretty bad, they called like three or four illegal touching/holding/pi's on him). His ball skills are very good, he has a knack for playing the ball right as it's coming into the WR's hands, so i love that. We haven't had that in a while. Overall, for a rookie, i'd say he's having a B+ year. Once we get some actual NFL safeties, we'll be pretty shut down at both corner spots.

Speaking of that how often has Carr moved to safety? I know he played a bit there in the Washington game but I was wondering if it is a gameplan thing or a panic decision based off the poor safety play

Bobby Wagner's been everywhere for us this year. Leading the team in tackles and has basically been able to do a little bit of everything on one of the league's best D's. He's had a lot of key plays. He's stopped more than one 4th down conversion by himself.

Yeah and played him really well. Once our dumb coaches play him in press it could be a wrap.

Only watched Gilmore once this year and it was when he completely erased Justin Blackmon the whole afternoon. mCame away very impressed, and definitely think he'll be one to watch in the years to come.