he's talking about possibly delaying chuck hagel's nomination. andalsowaynelapierre. thisis very important. because if you look at the profiles of all the people that committed these mass murders in newtown and aurora and across -- virginia tech, they are all hispanic drug gang leaders. and that's exactly what wayne lapierre said in an op-ed that americans need to buy guns because those latin americans are coming to america, and they're going to kill you people. this is who a lot of republicans in congress are thinking about falling off -- don't do it. don't hurt our party anymore. let wayne lapierre go wherever he wants to go. he's going to destroy the party. we're going to talk about the crazy op-ed has horrible for our party's image, horrible for the conservative movement's image, goes against everything ronald reagan stood for. we'll talk about that in a minute. first, breaking news. this is bizarre. the feel-good story of the olympic games involved in possibly murder. >> this was a total jaw-dropper this morning. oscar pistorius, for those people who don't know, is a south a

,andwaynelapierre, headof the national rifle association, kelly and laperriere, only on fox news sunday and senate republicans go after one of their former colleagues who wants to be defense secretary. >> we write, that is a direct question, i expect a direct answer, yes or no. >> chris: we'll ask the panel if chuck hagel's nomination is in trouble and our power player of the week, a cheerleader for poetry, all right now on fox news sunday. >> chris: and, hello, again, from fox news in washington. president obama travels to minneapolis tomorrow to con his push for new gun control. and saturday the white house released this picture of the president skeet shooting at camp david which he says he does all the time. meanwhile, the national rifle association is fighting any new limits on guns. the first big legislative battle this year and today we will cover it in-depth. we'll talk with wayne lapierre, head of the nra in a moment. but, first, mark kelly, retired astronaut, navy captain and husband of former congresswoman gabrielle giffords who was shot two years ago. he and his wife launched

leaders on how to curb gun violence. this as nra's chiefexecutive,waynelapierre, continuedhis spirited defense of gun rights this weekend. speaking with fox news's chris wallace about that controversial nra ad that brought the president's children into the gun debate. >> the president's kids are safe, and we're all thankful for it. >> they also face a threat that most children do not face. >> tell that to the people of newtown. tell that -- >> you really think that the president's children are the same kind of target as every schoolchild in america? that's ridiculous and you know it, sir. >> you know, unfortunately, i think there are parents all over the school that -- all over the country that think their kids are entitled to the same amount of protection when they go to school. >> so they should have secret service? >> no, but what they should have is police officers or certified armed security in those schools to keep people safe. >> you talk -- one of the points of that ad that i want to ask you about is you made it a class argument. the rich, the elite. >> sure. >> they have bodyg

not dealt with. >> this could be another new problem for some moderatevoter,waynelapierre, heruns the nra. i want to read you a snippet of this op-ed piece. "after hurricane sandy we saw the hellish world that the gun prohibitionists see as their utopia, looters ran wild in south brooklyn." didn't happen. "there was food, water, electricities, hurricanes, tornadoes, riots, terrorists, gangs, lone criminals, these are perils we are sure to face. not just maybes. it's not paranoia to buy a gun, it's survival, responsible behavior and it's time we encourage law-abiding americans to do just that." many including joe scarborough said the op-ed was laced with "racial overtones" among other things. what is wayne lapierre doing for the republican party? >> wayne lapierre is representing his organization. whether he's trying to fold into his organization. >> long identified with the gop. >> there's a difference between the nra and the rnc. he's doing what he's paid to do and representing it. the nice thing the democrats are doing are lopping the two groups together so i do understand that

's no doubt, angela, that the numbers of gun owners who feel the waythatwaynelapierrefeels.>> the president has their polls. wayne lapierre does not. i remember in elementary school i had to take a current event class and i'm wondering if he's not paying attention to the news. we have newtown with 20 kids gone. and you have this new killer on the rampage in los angeles. at some point the gun laws can no longer control us. we have to control them. >> well, i wonder, too, david if they are tone deaf. universal background checks, which do seem, if anything, have the broadest support. take a listen. >> at first glance, there's nothing universal about it at all. but think about it, criminals won't be part of that universe. think about it. they will steal their guns. >> the polls are not on the nra side. 52% of americans support stricter gun control laws. overwhelming support for the universal background checks. 92%. 56% support a ban on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. is the nra tone deaf? >> well, i think clearly there's a reaction to newtown that is not expected,

, including tighter gun control. >> reporter: the head of the national rifle association,waynelapierre, respondedto the president's state of the union address. >> it's not about keeping kids safe at school. that wasn't even mentioned in the president's speech. >> reporter: lapierre renewed his call for more armed guards and schools. and accused the president of politicizing the sandy hook tragedy. at the white house, tara mergener, wjz eyewitness news. >> now, the president is pushing a new ban on assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines, as well as universal background checks. while the n.r.a. opposes all three, expanded background checks are getting some traction on capitol hill. >>> grammy-nominated rapper two chains is arrested on maryland's eastern shore on drug charges. state police say the rapper was charged with possession of marijuana and paraphernalia, following a traffic stop on his way to perform at the university of maryland eastern shore. two chains, whose real name is taheed epips, tweeted this picture saying, lock me u

. no loopholes anywhere for anyone. >> america can do this. for us. >> the point of that isthatwaynelapierre, thenra head, now is against universal background checks. specifically he said this morning that they could lead to a universal registry of gun owners, something he says the nra opposes. >> peter alexander from 1600 pennsylvania for us. thank you, sir. >>> a reward for information in the sleiaying of a chicago teenager is at $40,000. there was a march saturday in memory of hadiya pendleton. the 15-year-old was shot and killed tuesday in a park with her friends. i want to bring in reverend al sharpton, host of msnbc's "politics nation." also president of the national action network as well. let's talk about hadiya first. recently got back from washington. she just performed at president obama's inauguration. for folks who don't know the story, who aren't familiar with this little girl, what can you tell us? >> 15 years old, honor student. as you said, performed at the president's inaugural festivities. went home, was on her way in a month or so to paris. and was killed. apparently sta

check. that's just rational. so i think, though, chuck, this is very, very big news.obviously,waynelapierre, who'sa guy that i -- i support the second amendment. i think maybe they should ship him to france for a couple years. >> i think he hurt the movement. i think it's made it easier to sit there and say, wait a minute, whose side do you want to be on? they've been bad spokespeople on this front. it has made it easier for a tom coburn, who by the way is probably going to be the lynch pin here. schumer has been negotiating with him. they want to get coburn as a co-spon ssor on the background check. >> diane feinstein, chuck schumer. these people, they cannot push the republicans in any direction whatsoever. but wayne lapierre's mistakes, mika, week after week after week, his horrific performance on fox -- >> every single one was a cringer. >> the stupid thing they did with their gun app that little kids could play. on the month anniversary of the sandy hook slaughter. the commercial going after the president's kids. wayne lapierre did more to damage the nra than any democrat or liberal c

saying for a long time,thatwaynelapierrenotonly is out of the mainstream, but he's out of touch with his own membership, with the nra, which is to say when he says that nobody wants universal background checks and then you look at the numbers, and it's something like 90% of americans want them, there is a desire for some measures. not extreme to go take their guns away, but there is a desire in this country, not just from democrats and liberals, but from americans as we saw there to do something about guns. >> the numbers have shifted dramatically, john heilemann. like they haven't shifted in recent history. and last night there was a special election. it was in a democratic seat to replace jesse jackson. a lot of people are scoffing about it. conservatives immediately because michael bloomberg went in. there was a candidate that was in a competitive race who was supported by the nra. bloomberg came in. and it changed everything overnight. >> he did. and he spent, i believe, $2 million on that race in a media market like chicago in a race at this level, $2 million is a lot of mo

picture on the website is in the middle of two other speakers, the nra's david keeneandwaynelapierre. thereis the image. so, katie, are you telling me that the future of conservatism is best represented by these two men but not by chris christie? >> well, i think that there's some truth to the fact that conservatives are attracted to people that stick to their guns and both palin and lapierre are people who, no pun intended i guess, but they both stick to their guns. and christie is someone who i always admired. however, i think that currently right now he has a bit of a branding problem, so, for example, let's say taylor swift were to become a rapper, she would probably lose a great deal of her base and she would have a hard time making friends in nashville. and i think that might be something similar to what's going on with christie, so a lot of conservatives felt very strongly and passionately for him but because of some of the decisions he's made recently with regard to spending and voting for some pork, they're seeing him a little bit differently now and he has more of a brandi

's an unstated irony in this as well. that lindsey graham knows fullwell,waynelapierreknowsfull well, gayle trotter knows full well and sheldon whitehouse asked a question which lapierre ducked. if you talk to hard core members of the nra, they will admit, as senator whitehouse said, they will admit you don't need an ar-15 to defend your home or go hunting or go target shooting or anything else. they want those guns because the police have those guns. and they believe that they will have to fight the police, and they want to be as heavily armed as the police when that happens. that is the underlying philosophy. >> so they think in terms of a barricade situation where it's them against the law. >> absolutely. >> congresswoman, that is new. it used to be they would say we're sportsmen, we're hunters, and then they would say whatever, self-protection if you live in a tough neighborhood or whatever. now they openly say we have to fight the government. that's pretty close to insurrection time, isn't it? we have to be ready to fight the government? >> this is what we've been hearing for a couple

by paranoid people like the woman from kentucky who calls president obama amuslim,waynelapierrewhosays black people will loot and riot, so everybody needs guns -- host: on guns? caller: when we get these people home and they do not have jobs because congress is blocking jobs, and they have ptsd, and we have all these problems in this country, i am wondering, should these people have access to 30- round assault weapons? guest: henry, thank you for your call and comments. the basic idea -- you're touching on issues like gun control and many other different things. the question is, can our people come back from afghanistan and have an gainful employment when they come back? the answer has to be, the nation has to do it in such a way that the answer must be yes. the reality of the situation is that unfortunately for many veterans, their unemployment rate is many -- is much higher than it should be, particularly in comparison to their civilian peers. this is a wake-up call for employers to take a look and see what they can do to help veterans that have so valiantly fought for our country in

: yeah. that's an interesting -- what do you think, congressman? >> ithinkwaynelapierreis going to revoke your nra membership for that. but i think you make a very good point, which is the requirements that we have for so many other things we don't apply to guns. the gun industry is treated very differently -- >> stephanie: just look at the seat belt laws, all of that stuff -- it just is incredible where people think you can't have any regulation on guns who's only purpose is to kill right? >> well, yes. well it's also for sport -- >> stephanie: well that's usually killing something. >> or target practice. >> people go for target practice, but you make an interesting point about the way we treat guns differently than other things that are far less dangerous, but now it is just such a struggle to get universal background checks that that's where we ought to put our focus. >> stephanie: you are right. nothing is always -- what does the president always say, let perfect be the enemy of good. this is where we have gotten the bar so low that we go okay if we can

. >> exactly, including gun owners.waynelapierredoesn'tspeak for these people. he speaks for the manufacturers, the only people to profit since newtown. this is why lindsay graham has been going after chuck hagel, not because he has any moral core beliefs about chuck hagel being bad. lindsay graham is doing this because he knows the tea party dispieses him. >> these people do know the president can't just strike something down in the constitution. >> stephanie: i know. jeff in iowa writes steph back in the '90s the nra supported background checks and then the brady law was passed and the gun industry complained about slumping gun sales so the nra decided they are now opposed to background checks. thank you, jeff. [ applause ] >> they want a national database of mentally ill people but not of gun owners and show id when you vote, but not when you buy a weapon. >> stephanie: exactly. nra president convicted of shooting. david keane bragged this week that his pro-gun agenda would work because guns were cool his son was accused in december 2002 for shoot

and an effective one. >> jim, your latest article isaboutwaynelapierre's stateof the union response. here's part of that. >> we will not be duped by the hypocrisy in the white house or the congress who would deny our right to semiautomatic technology and the magazines we need to defend ourselves and our families. >> it would seem, jim, that no measure of public sentiment can way the nra message. obviously they don't care, right? >> well, i saw that speech as playing to his base, conspiratorial, to put it vaguely. but there are new forces coalescing against them. it's not just president obama who's smart enough and, like susan suggests, knows there will probably be limited gains legislatively in congress. maybe background checks but not much beyond that. but he also knows he's got folks like michael bloomberg getting very serious about going after the nra. in the back yard of that same speech yesterday which was in parts fairly pointed. you've got mayor bloomberg throwing a minimum of $1.5 million into a special congressional race to replace jesse jackson, jr., who pled yesterday. he's spe

waynelapierrespokelast night and his organization released a new ad. >> they don't make us free. we're free already. and as long as we have the second amendment, we always will be. we are america, and our politicians are only as powerful as we, the people, allow them to be. >> the message from the nra just doesn't change. how much influence does it still have? >> it doesn't have influence with television ads like that. i mean, that's an ad that they put out there, i mean, tries to appeal to patriotism or appeal to something, i'm not really quite sure. but the nra as a political entity, as an outside group, they do have power. it's not a power wielded with ads like that. it's power wielded in republican primaries, it's power wielded with the threat of mobilizing nra members, to, you know, knock on doors and try to, you know, get someone thrown out of office whether in the primary or the general election. that is where the far naer's might is really felt. now we're seeing folks on the other side sort of pop up to counter that. mayor mike bloomberg's superpac, but the nra really, when

didwaynelapierrein1999. what is he saying today? well, today, before senator leahy, when asked, you don't support background checks in all instances at gun shows, mr. lapierre responds, we do not. because the fact is, the law right now is a failure the way it is working. none of it makes any sense in the real world. well, i would submit to my good friend, mr. moran, that this is the real world. and we're dealing with real people and i know that he would like to comment from your perspective on the state of gun violence and the lack of gun violence prevention in this country. and i would like to yield to you. mr. moran: i thank the very distinguished gentlelady from california. thank you for heroically sharing with us that horrific experience that you went through in your very early adulthood and that understandably continues to shape your view of gun violence . hopefully others will hopefully others will share that view without having to go through that experience. thank you for putting a face on the tragedy at newtown and the gun violence we have experienced all too often in t

of the forces against it? can they say that? >> you know, the thing is, you'vegotwaynelapierre. >>yeah. >> who really was a lot closer to where americans are today. >> almost aware. >> than he is right now. because 92% of americans want universal background checks. i think that's coming. >> all right. meanwhile, president obama gained an ally in his efforts to pass new gun legislation in the wake of the newtown shootings. congressman joe heck, republican from nevada, backed universal background checks for firearms saying, quote, i think the idea of background checks across the board, i'm not opposed to them. and i disagree with people who say that this is going to be the first step to gun registration, which leads to gun con physician indication. c con physician >> they go through a background check. and guess what? they're not part of a national registry. >> right. >> nobody's coming to get their guns. the black helicopters around circling their house. nobody's taking their livestock. you can do this. you can make sure that felons can't walk into a gun store or go to a gun show and bu

'm a shooter and an nra member and ithinkwaynelapierreisa bean bag and he doesn't speak for me. [ laughter ] >> wow. >> caller: but i'm just a little concerned, i think the message that the nra people are trying to get across is they think the second amendment should be preserved and protected. and because we do in our united states code a thing about the unorganized militia and i think it's still needed. can you imagine something like the great depression [ inaudible ] all at once, i mean right now with the way the violent nature of our society is. >> stephanie: uh-huh. >> caller: the gangsteres are armed and ready to take whatever we have. >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: go ahead. >> stephanie: no go ahead. finish what you were saying sorry. >> caller: well, i just think that -- you know, for us people that -- that want to maybe go out and help during times of crisis that are called up we should have high-quality weapons. >> stephanie: right, but there's a big leap from slingshots and bows and arrows to military-style assault weapons don't you think? >> c

of races trying to counter the money from the nra. >> yep. >> stephanie: i saw another clipofwaynelapierrespeaking somewhere yesterday. [ cuckoo clock chimes ] >> stephanie: that guy is a poster child for too crazy to have a gun. and here are my thoughts. okay. twenty-nine minutes after the hour. matt breen from the advocate here to talk about -- this is big news. twenty-nine minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." ♪ going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. don't let it get to you. ♪ ♪ try mach3 sensitive, with three high-definition blades. a closer shave in a single stroke for less irritation, even on sensitive s

that decide to go south and gowithwaynelapierreonuniversal gun background checks. because he's going to throw money into those races and he will beat them. >> the mayor is a dangerous guy on this. he's a guy with many billions of dollars, committed to spending it, committed to this cause with a team of very sharp political operatives around him. tough political operatives. committed to the cause. they can change the equation on this in a lot of districts. >> i have to say also the thing that surprises me is how clear eyed they are. know though exactly what's possible, they know what is not possible. they're not around to waste time. they are targeting these races, and they're going to go after moderate republicans and moderate democrats. bloomberg, worth $24 billion, will put in more, and he will win. so it changes the dynamics. >> and you really can't complain, if you're receiving support from the nra and you're riding on that, then you really can't accuse the mayor of buying anything because you're bought already. still ahead madeleine albright will be here. top republicans insist

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