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Yeah, mine might have been worded ineloquently but I think there is a fundamental difference between some of the factors that a liveaboard must consider when choosing a location, vs someone who lives ashore. If you live aboard, you must consider the commute to your job when selecting a marina; if you are a weekender, access to roads or public transport will not be the same kind of issue. If you have kids, you have to think about the school district if your marina is your home; again, not a consideration if your kids go to school from your house. If you live aboard in winter, what are the off-season services like? How quickly do they shovel the docks after a snowfall? Where is winter water access, how convenient? How do you pump out your holding tank when you can't move your boat through the ice to get to the fuel dock? None of these are issues a weekender is likely to have to consider in marina selection. Etc.

There are also personal preferences - working yard or resort atmosphere? How important is an onsite restaurant, pool, clubhouse, etc? And location: city girl or country girl? During our busy careers, we kept our boat at a wonderful peaceful bucolic small town that was a sanity-saving weekend retreat from the city. But being there full-time? That would be stifling. Fun to visit, but I'd much rather live in a university town.

Ahh never knew you were a country girl

You are right that one of the things which help drive my decision is that I get enough of the hussle bussle on a daily basis comuting and at work. It does drive the reason I want my living spaces quiet ( home and boat).

I gravitate to that anyway so should we ever liveaboard for long periods of time it will be peace and tranquility vs lots of activity.

In the thread with the poll i put up it looks like proximity to home ( for those who dont liveaboard, price, atmosphere/commradiere/ and accesability to sailing have so far been the major drivers of choosing. Seems like ammenties is not as important which suprised me somewhat. Hopefully more will take the poll.

dave

02-08-2013 12:12 PM

wingNwing

Re: Chesapeake Bay, Western Shore Marinas

Sailortjk: Yes, Riz is in our group. We had pizza at their house a couple of weeks ago; and if it doesn't snow too badly this afternoon, Jamie is in our happy hour/Spanish practice group. Tonight is "clothing and body parts" which could get interesting after the second glass of wine. Hmmm.

... I also dont think its accurate to say that our priorities are necessarily different than yours living because we dont live aboard. They may be different because as individual people we have different priorites where we live and play. ... I never thought there were inherent difference in why a liveaboard vs a weekend boater would chose a marina with virtually the same amenities other than "vibe" and price.

Yeah, mine might have been worded ineloquently but I think there is a fundamental difference between some of the factors that a liveaboard must consider when choosing a location, vs someone who lives ashore. If you live aboard, you must consider the commute to your job when selecting a marina; if you are a weekender, access to roads or public transport will not be the same kind of issue. If you have kids, you have to think about the school district if your marina is your home; again, not a consideration if your kids go to school from your house. If you live aboard in winter, what are the off-season services like? How quickly do they shovel the docks after a snowfall? Where is winter water access, how convenient? How do you pump out your holding tank when you can't move your boat through the ice to get to the fuel dock? None of these are issues a weekender is likely to have to consider in marina selection. Etc.

There are also personal preferences - working yard or resort atmosphere? How important is an onsite restaurant, pool, clubhouse, etc? And location: city girl or country girl? During our busy careers, we kept our boat at a wonderful peaceful bucolic small town that was a sanity-saving weekend retreat from the city. But being there full-time? That would be stifling. Fun to visit, but I'd much rather live in a university town.

Me make more of it than it is, youre the one that wrote 4+ paragraphs in response to the word "storing"?

So I am long winded. Thats old news. Everyone knows that about me.

Anyway It was my opinion. No harm intended. I also followed with the post on marina/ club criteria because I wanted to find out more. If its going to cause a fight amonst friends maybe we should not continue, I dont want to do that. I a;ready apologized if you found it offensive.

As you so elequently posted in another thread (quoting my friend T 37chef-)

"Anyway, I'm done with this discussion ...next"

02-07-2013 03:19 PM

T37Chef

Re: Chesapeake Bay, Western Shore Marinas

Me make more of it than it is, youre the one that wrote 4+ paragraphs in response to the word "storing"?

Have you meet the Rizzo Family? Chris, Eileen, and Jamie?
They are great people. We are friends from when they lived in Michigan and we were marina neighbors back than. We have been very close ever since. They have a Hunter of just over 30' and tied on the bulkhead close to the pool.

I got to spend a couple of days at Port Annapolis back in November. It was a bit quiet than, but I can just imagine it to be a popular place in the height of the season.

Hope to meet you next time I am there.

Tim,

Of couse she know the Rizzos. They are an active part of the Chesapeake group.

Oh come on Dave, you really gonna go there? A good friend of ours kept his boat at Port Annapolis as a liveaboard and loved it, they have a great liveaboard community with a great sailing city to boot!

I think I mentioned that didnt I. Of course she is a good friend of mine and my wifes and I have huge respect for her and Dan. We have shared many conversations and laughs. They helped us immediately and even drove us home after our boat was hit by lightning last year. She is one of the best posters on SN and I hope they chose her someday as a mod because of her wisdom and sense of fairness.

I just dont agree with what she said and I tried to do it in a respectful manner. If I wasnt respectful I apoligize. She is very sensitive to liveaboards and sterotypes which have been attributed in past postings and has been a champion of their lifestyle and I have HUGE respect for her educating many including myself.

I started a seperate thread to further look at the reasons why people chose the marinas/ clubs they do with a poll.

I am not sure what to say. Should I not post when I disagree if it is a friend of mine? You certainly had no problem with doing it when I wrote something you disagreed with and we are friends. Dont make more out of it than it is...I disagreed with what she said

We're at Port Annapolis, average depth of our slip is 10'. Really like the facility and the ambiance of a well-run working yard. Admittedly, there are many places that are less expensive, but when you're living aboard full time, paying extra for location is a different calculation than if you're storing a boat you visit on weekends.

Eryka,

Have you meet the Rizzo Family? Chris, Eileen, and Jamie?
They are great people. We are friends from when they lived in Michigan and we were marina neighbors back than. We have been very close ever since. They have a Hunter of just over 30' and tied on the bulkhead close to the pool.

I got to spend a couple of days at Port Annapolis back in November. It was a bit quiet than, but I can just imagine it to be a popular place in the height of the season.

Hope to meet you next time I am there.

02-07-2013 09:29 AM

T37Chef

Re: Chesapeake Bay, Western Shore Marinas

Oh come on Dave, you really gonna go there? A good friend of ours kept his boat at Port Annapolis as a liveaboard and loved it, they have a great liveaboard community with a great sailing city to boot!

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