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I love HoFo and this forum in particular and I'm very happy to see it getting some attention and traffic.
It's been in the doldrums for a long time because of the lack of exciting phones from Moto.

I think this thread, for all it's faults, has generated some very good information and mostly excellent discussion about this phone thanks to bill23 and others, "known facts" notwithstanding.

I am very thankful for all the input from everyone, it's been extremely entertaining as well as enlightening.

Whatever my reputation has been on this forum for past contributions in Moto hacking/modding, I am going to be a complete noob all over again in many ways and have a lot to learn about Android and Linux and everything else involved with the new generation of phones.

I'm really looking forward to it...we all need a little humility.

kbman

Droid RAZR M/HD MSM8960 does HSPA+ on US GSM carriers!

If we knew what we were doing, they wouldn't call it research. - Albert Einstein

Whatever my reputation has been on this forum for past contributions in Moto hacking/modding, I am going to be a complete noob all over again in many ways and have a lot to learn about Android and Linux and everything else involved with the new generation of phones.

As do I. I respect your humility, but find it hard to believe that you would remain as much of a n00b as I or others, since you have ALWAYS been about the first guy to find the way and then show the others the way, first chance you get.

but since this thread has gone so far off topic and off track i wont post anymore and just sit back an enjoy my device amongst other prototypes im working on.
and while you guys wait til december for a release ill chuckle some more when it pops up way sooner in stores.wait til you see the commercial on *** ** shortly.

Just wanted to say, thanks. I never was in on the Nap pre-release thread, I read it after the fact and saw the changes in your sig after I had one. And thanks for the many *cough*'s, here and elsewhere. . . . .

You don't know me, but I do know how to read, read, read, and then maybe post, hope I'm OK.

So, again, thanks, sorry this thread went FUBAR, but don't blame you for sitting the rest of it out.

There's no reason why anyone should be anything other than excited about this phone. I am, even if I don't buy it (which will probably be the case) but I just like seeing what the future of tech holds. But it certainly is nowhere near important enough to me to make me upset/depressed/angry. Seeing the leaked pics/specs only makes the imminent release more exciting to me.
To anyone who is obsessed with this phone or the UI or the button layout or something so insigificant...just wait. We're going to find out soon enough what the phone looks like.

There's no reason why anyone should be anything other than excited about this phone. I am, even if I don't buy it (which will probably be the case) but I just like seeing what the future of tech holds. But it certainly is nowhere near important enough to me to make me upset/depressed/angry. Seeing the leaked pics/specs only makes the imminent release more exciting to me.
To anyone who is obsessed with this phone or the UI or the button layout or something so insigificant...just wait. We're going to find out soon enough what the phone looks like.

i agree some people take this way to seriously.. artist get upset when we download their music, that doesnt stop millions from downloading it..

this guy cracks me up.motodev. "known facts" lol.
yes i know them and i annouce them.
but since this thread has gone so far off topic and off track i wont post anymore and just sit back an enjoy my device amongst other prototypes im working on .
and while you guys wait til december for a release ill chuckle some more when it pops up way sooner in stores.wait til you see the commercial on *** ** shortly.

i appreciate everything you have given this site, so much in fact, i went back 50 or so more pages from where i started to see what you and wrussel were saying.. i didnt come to this site til those pics were posted last week..

thanks for everything, i would sure love to get some more hints towards that commercial your talking about, i know BGR just showed a doc with a verizon android phone along with others being released within a certain period of time (oct 4th to November 21st) so right there that tells me it will be out before december if its the correct vzn phone.. if im warm or cold on this please gimme some hints

Look closely and you'll see a Dec 13th date as well. I'm just going to expect it next year so the announcement bomb has more impact.

i see what your saying but id be willing to bet money that its talking about one of the other phones that no ones talking about yet. well see but i think im pulling a picture together here.. been doing alot of research.. lol