after watching kungens stream i think it is relatively safe to say he is out of the race. It was like watching a guild i lasted 5 days in before rage quitting, 3 dps being extremely sub-par (even by my standards).

Go Method! This is definitely their expansion to grab every (meaningful) World First.

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after watching kungens stream i think it is relatively safe to say he is out of the race. It was like watching a guild i lasted 5 days in before rage quitting, 3 dps being extremely sub-par (even by my standards).

Agreed and I think he is fine with that. I don't think he is aiming to be what he was in original Nihilum. I think he is interested in playing competitively and building a good new group of raiders. That doesn't mean world first, just progression oriented.

Sorry for being out of touch, but Nihilum's back? I've kinda "nerd-cheered" for them since Vanilla. And that WoW Radio episode "We Heart Kungen' by TotalBiscuit was absolutely hilarious, still up on YouTube.

So they're back? With Kungen as GM? Anyone know what server? Thanks ^_^

Method might take a crown of world first. But on the other end my favourites are Paragon, Stars, Exodus, FortheHorde.
Personal favourite: Paragon(well sometimes they exploit thats what I hate most in race)
For Nihilum- they are not ready for race because they need to make strong rooster for world first. Kungun is just shadow in past. Those days are over when one man can make changes.
For Paragon- If Paragon failed to be in top 5 guild then its gonna be RIP Paragon soon.

Now I dont take seriously any kind of world first because of using exploits and playing without gaming spirit. Just look at recent world first level 90 race. LK boss exploit, Paragon bleed effect exploit on H Nefarian(still they got legit kill).

after watching kungens stream i think it is relatively safe to say he is out of the race. It was like watching a guild i lasted 5 days in before rage quitting, 3 dps being extremely sub-par (even by my standards).

Pretty much, Nihilum don't stand a chance with how they are playing currently, but can't blame them really, its a new guild and needs to be given time to recruit and sort out rotten apples.