Re: [ox-en] Re: <nettime> the next layer of keywords

nettime-l-request@... wrote:
>
>
> Armin Medosch <armin@...> wrote:
>
>>> Open Source Culture needs to be constantly aware of capitalisms
>>> propensity to adapt, adopt, co-opt and subjugate progressive movements
>>> and ideas to its own goals.
>
>
> Open Source is largely funded by '1st world' governments and (large)
> corporations.
>
> This is perfectly normal.
>
>
> Open Source does not stand in opposition to western Capitalism, but
> rather is an integral weapon of western Capitalism against what
> remains of small scale meaningful relationships.
>
>
> Kindly lay off the mumbo jumbo worthless key words like 'progressive
> movements'. There's nothing progressive about open source and for that
> matter there is nothing progressive about progressive.
<long silence/>
OK, now that you have successfully hit everybody and everything on the block,
what now ?

[ox-en] PeerInvestment – OpenTechnology Partnerships

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[ox-en] Free Software and social movements in South America

Hi!
This weekend I attended a local conference in the town of Biella
(Northwestern Italy). Among other things it was a nice opportunity to
meet some Hipatia [http://www.hipatia.info/] people there.
According to some talks which have been given there in South America
there is some rather strong connection between (classical) social
movements and Free Software. I heard of this before but actually I
didn't know how strong this seems to be.
Now this is something which confuses me a bit because from what I see
for instance in Europe there is no connection between (classical)
social movements and Free Software. There are also more theoretical
reasons why I think to no such connection is more likely than to have
one.
In other words: An interesting phenomenon I'd really like to consider
in detail. May be Oekonux and other interested parties like Hipatia
can gain some useful insights by this.
To start the discourse I have some questions which I think would be
interesting to start with.
* What kind of connection is there between social movements and Free
Software exactly? What is the nature of this connection? How strong
is it really?
* Why in contrast is there no strong connection between Free Software

Re: [ox-en] Free Software and social movements in South America

Hi Stefan,
this is an interesting proposal. I'll just put a few
unformed thoughts on the table already.
>
> * What kind of connection is there between social
> movements and Free
> Software exactly? What is the nature of this
> connection? How strong
> is it really?
It seems to me that it is about embedded values, and
about prefiguring the new society by present actions.
What I belief is much stronger now, after the
disasters and defeat of 'really existing socialism',
is the lesson that present practice must already
reflect what is wanted, and also that there is a new
Zeitgeist, shared by many, to no longer abide by a
temporal viewpoint where all the good things are seen
to arrive 'after the revolution'. Furthermore, I'm not
sure how strong this is in South America, but it is
present in Europe, is the idea that civil society is
more autonomous, and cannot automatically rely on a
bureaucratic state. So it is very much more nowadays
about create a new life and new networks in the
present, and hereby already creating counter-practices
and counter-institutions.

Re: [ox-en] Free Software and social movements in South America

Hello Stefan
I'm from hipatia too. I'm on this list because Juan Carlos told me about
Oekonux.
I'm a researcher from Brazil (Unicamp, State University of Campinas) and
my master dissertation, on linguistics (discourse analisys), was about
the free software movement and politics. From a conception that
considers that the language event is a political event, it was looked to
understand as and where the political enrolls itself in this debate. On
the third chapter of the dissertation I've examined some of the possible
reasons why the free software movement on Latin America most of times
use the expression "free software" and almost never "open source", and
which characteristics and qualities the Latin American movement
enphasize about FOSS (i.e., independence from foreing) countries.
I think one of the best examples of political activity of Latin American
movement is this: http://www.grain.org/i/?id=38 But there is some
resistance about this kind of action from the non-political part of the
movement
Now I'm a PHD student on anthropology and my research theme will be (I'm
on my first year) the history of formation of the brazilian free
software movement.
Unfortunally, my english is not so good and most of my work is only in
portuguese but I hope to exchange some ideas.
Best regards
Rafael

Re: [ox-en] Free Software and social movements in South America

Hi Rafael,
Feel free to send any bio of summary of your research
(with links) to the P2P Research pages here at
http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Research
Michel
--- Rafael Evangelista <rae@...> wrote:
> Hello Stefan
>
> I'm from hipatia too. I'm on this list because Juan
> Carlos told me about
> Oekonux.
>
> I'm a researcher from Brazil (Unicamp, State
> University of Campinas) and
> my master dissertation, on linguistics (discourse
> analisys), was about
> the free software movement and politics. From a
> conception that
> considers that the language event is a political
> event, it was looked to
> understand as and where the political enrolls itself
> in this debate. On
> the third chapter of the dissertation I've examined
> some of the possible
> reasons why the free software movement on Latin
> America most of times

Re: [ox-en] Free Software and social movements in South America

> * What kind of connection is there between social movements and Free
> Software exactly? What is the nature of this connection? How strong
> is it really?
The "social" part of free software is often a bit lacking. A lot of FS hackers
just aren't very social. Unfortunately I have seen the same with a lot of people
who are heavily into Wikipedia.
But this might change, possibly by creating more ties with the free culture
movement, and 'real' social networks, like CouchSurfing.
> * Why in contrast is there no strong connection between Free Software
> and social movements in more industrialized countries?
During my travels I haven't seen stronger connections in non-industrialized
countries. But maybe I haven't looked hard enough.
> * Can this phenomenon of the strong connection between Free Software
> and social movements in South America be compared to other
> phenomenons happening around Free Software?
I have worked for CEPES, an NGO in Peru, and they were aware of free
software and its importance. But they seemed an exception. Brazil
might be a
different situation, but I haven't encountered a single GNU/Linux machine
in the 3 weeks I traveled there.
Kasper
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