This is a discussion on Another who would win thread ( STi vs S2k) within the Comparison: WRX vs World forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; well i just picked up my 05 STi 2 weeks ago, and now that she is broken in im ready ...

if all he has is a catback you shouldn't have too much trouble beating him from a roll. You should be trapping about 3mph higher than him and you have the mid-range advantage. As for what speed to start at: as low as possible. The high speeds you reach, the faster he gets

just remember you have nice torque in midrange rpms with short gears so if you race him from like 45-50 go into 3rd. 25mph go into 2nd. Race him at 30mph roll and you be in 2nd, even if his in first in vtec you'll have enough torque to pull him nicely.

I had a guy in an S2K try and do a fly-by on me, after he had not even acknoledged me when I tried to see if he wanted to go (at a light...so i guess i understand ). I saw his front lift in my rear-view when I was at about 45mph, I had no problem stopping his advance, and as far as I could tell I pulled a little bit too (he never got closer than about a car behind since thats about where I got on it, so it was kindof hard to judge). To be fair he did have aftermarket rims (looked like 17's or 18's) which werent in his favor, and it only lasted from about 45-80 before I saw him let off and hit the breaks. I was Cobb Stage 2 at the time.

For comparisson I had an STi try a similer attack (get on it from behind and try to catch me by surprise) a few weeks later, we stayed almost even (he was inching very slowly toward the end of 3rd) from 45-about 90 and then he started pulling on me when I shifted into 4th and I shut down with him a little less than a car in front.

stg 3 wrx vs 05 s2k

When my lil bro race a 05 s2k from 60-65mph roll, my bro only pull half a car in 3rd and then in 4th, my bro put about 4+ cars. He keep on pulling on the s2k until they shutdown around 100mph.
I alway though the 05 s2k would do better then the older model s2k

i raced the s2k tonight, we did about 4 runs, all from a roll of course because he didnt want to go from a dig,

and well, lets just say the outcome was very differant then i expected

we raced anywhere from 60ish to 110ish, i didnt want to go that high becuase i think its pointless and i thought he would pull me.

from those speeds he would stay with me tell i shifted into 5th then i would just start to walk away pretty good, and to my suprise the STI did great top-end,

the races were filmed, so ill host them ASAP,

-nate

Good runs, although I too am surprised you didn't just walk away from the start. It's always nice to see the "myth" of the STi's lack of top end refuted. Even my road instructors couldn't believe how hard the car continued to pull even in 5th gear. In fact, when it was stock, an E46 could not get around me on the main straight at summit...and that was with an instructor driving the M3.

i want to hand him his ass this time, so if any of you have had experiance racing S2k's, what is the best speed to get them at, other then a DIG

try a 5 mph 1st gear roll, or a rolling start, with neither of you all out launching (there are some methods where u can achieve instant boost if you start from 3k rpms at a stop, which will sound like a normal takeoff). If you can shift somewhat fast, you will put 3 cars on him by the end of 2nd

Good runs, although I too am surprised you didn't just walk away from the start. It's always nice to see the "myth" of the STi's lack of top end refuted. Even my road instructors couldn't believe how hard the car continued to pull even in 5th gear. In fact, when it was stock, an E46 could not get around me on the main straight at summit...and that was with an instructor driving the M3.

he raced him at 60mph roll with him probably in 3rd well up there in his rpms above all the nice torque, s2k was probably in 2nd and in vtec at the best place he could be, thats why he didnt pull right away.

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