Question Regarding Khainites?

Well, basically i would like to give executioners a Master BSB but since theyre khainite, non khainite models may not be in the same unit. Does this include masters, since they have no special khainite rule?

Unfortunately the only way to get a BSB in a unit of executioners is a Hag BSB. It really bites and I can only hope that in the next revision they include some kind of provision for a master to join executioners.

A good combination that works very well is a Death Hag BSB with the Standard of Hag Graef, Rune of Khaine and Manbane.

She can go in any unit she likes, and yes I know she has no save at all, and I am aware that if anything can hit her it will probably kill her, but consider the fact that there will be a gazillion (minimum of 6!) attacks going out with the ASF from the banner, and the support from the unit she's in (stand her next to the unit champion to get even more attacks against the model in B2B with her). It's unlikely that anything will survive to hit her, and with the executioners striking first you're onto a winner.

Put an assassin in there for even more stabby-killy-death. And if you need her in a different unit, she's free to move about. Just be careful with the frenzy.

That bites very much if you're the enemy.

V.

It has yet to be proven that intelligence has any survival value. - Arthur C. Clarke (1917 - 2008)

The one big problem with putting a hag into a unit of executioners is that smart opponents will bait the hag out. She has frenzy, the unit doesn't. So either the opponent gets to bait the unit around the table, or the hag gets pulled out and dies horribly.

As for asking for a revision to put the master in the unit, don't hold your breath. The current issue with khainites was fully intended. If they wanted to let you do it, they wouldn't have gone out of their way to make an entire rule based off what characters can join which units.

You want executioners to not suck so much? Either run the expensive and risky option of the hag BSB, or run them in small flanking units that support multiple charges.

I personally don't have the special slots for them, and run CoKs instead for S6.

I wouldn't say thet they're poor, exactly. They just look poor compared to the alternatives.

As for the whole "baiting" thing, the trick is to make your opponent think that you don't want the executioners to charge when, in fact, you do. Or, shield the hag (but not the unit) with harpies to make sure that the hag only gets LOS to a target on the turn she wants to charge.

There are a multitude of ways of getting round the frenzy, not least of which is the fact that if the Hag can charge, so can the unit...

V.

It has yet to be proven that intelligence has any survival value. - Arthur C. Clarke (1917 - 2008)

There are a multitude of ways of getting round the frenzy, not least of which is the fact that if the Hag can charge, so can the unit...

Not always. Single models aren't impeded by terrain, while units are. It's a rare case, but if an enemy unit is in terrain the hag could be in charge range but the unit wouldn't be (since the terrain would reduce their move).

And more generally if you think a charge is out of range when it isn't...you get the idea.

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