They got surveillance footage of him here in town on monday tossing some unneeded loaded magazines in the trash. An employee found them and the boss took them to a police substation across the street. On camera, the boss was all "my employee missed him by 30 minutes. Thank god he didn't run into him, who knows what would have happened!"

I'm guessing Chris would have said "yo" and continued his biz. He hadn't killed anyone yet, and throwing ammo into the trash is AFAIK not a crime.

The media hysteria is out of control. I fear the cops more than Dorner at this point.

Funny how the news isn't quick to mention that.... or that a precipitating event in this guy's breakdown was when he witnessed other officers brutalizing an unarmed suspect, and when he tried to report it he was basically fired for not being a team player.

Snotnose:They got surveillance footage of him here in town on monday tossing some unneeded loaded magazines in the trash. An employee found them and the boss took them to a police substation across the street. On camera, the boss was all "my employee missed him by 30 minutes. Thank god he didn't run into him, who knows what would have happened!"

I'm guessing Chris would have said "yo" and continued his biz. He hadn't killed anyone yet, and throwing ammo into the trash is AFAIK not a crime.

The media hysteria is out of control. I fear the cops more than Dorner at this point.

You do realize that he's a suspect in three murders, one of them a cop, right?

Can someone more in the know fill me in? This story, or the lapd's version (plus accusations made in the "manifesto"), doesn't add up. Is there more here? Conspiracy? Has this guy actually killed anyone yet?Or is he just a killer duckhead who happens to work for the lapd (who nobody trusts enough to have people not think an enemy of theirs is probably innocent)

Bathia_Mapes:Snotnose: They got surveillance footage of him here in town on monday tossing some unneeded loaded magazines in the trash. An employee found them and the boss took them to a police substation across the street. On camera, the boss was all "my employee missed him by 30 minutes. Thank god he didn't run into him, who knows what would have happened!"

I'm guessing Chris would have said "yo" and continued his biz. He hadn't killed anyone yet, and throwing ammo into the trash is AFAIK not a crime.

The media hysteria is out of control. I fear the cops more than Dorner at this point.

You do realize that he's a suspect in three murders, one of them a cop, right?

There has been some sort of gang war looking for an informant, and for second time someone has been shot at due to confusion. Luckily nobody has died.

Here are some comments from one of their discussion boards.

I believe that if you were not there to witness and experience the situations PERSONALLY, it is inappropriate to spend time speculating on whether it was a "Good Shoot" or a "Bad Shoot". Those that were there know what happened and after a through investigation, if there was wrongdoing, people will be held accountable in accordance with civil and criminal law.

No of course not. But no one is ever going to be 100% right.So you've never made a mistake? You are 100% on shoot no shoot drills at the range and in real life? How many times have you felt your life was in imminent danger? Have you faced the fear of a serial killer trying to hunt you and gun you down?I think all in all as law enforcement, and Southern California business organizations in particular, does pretty darn good. But as long as you have humans behind the trigger, we will never be perfect.

No one has said they did a good job. But they don't need to be crucified. People here (not necessarily you) have called the murders, assassins, etc etc. Talking about how Dorner should be treated like any other bad guy on the street like we would have to opportunity to give him commands or ever try to take him alive without him killing us first. That's all BS. Dorner himself says so. This isn't a normal law enforcement scenario, it's never happened before here... one of our former own, well trained and well armed hunting us and our families. The stress here is unimaginable.

The LAPD says they are reopening the investigation regarding his termination. He was fired for complaining about the misconduct of other officers and nothing more, plain and simple retailation. He claims the murder victims were the participants or family members of those officers who got him fired.

If you ruin someone's life and you give them no reason to be a part of society, they tend to be pretty anti-social.

tshaukops are idiots for the most part and way out of control, they are to far removed from the society they mean to protect.However, Dorner killed innocent family members, and there is no justice in that. He needs to be hunted and brought to justice.The two are separate in my opinion, but when they clash more will die.

They are all bad, derp. I am sure police do everything possible to bring him in alive.

With his knowledge and training of how things work, his determination and tools available, this guy is going to cause a lot of destruction before taking his own life. Be safe Brothers!

This. For some reason this story is sending shivers down my spine.. and I'm thousands of miles away on a keyboard. I could only imagine how it is for the officers in that area and the ones being targeted. I hope no more innocents are hurt in this rampage, but I doubt he's going down easily.

No way is this going to end without lead flying, he's way past the point of no return. I wonder what he's armed with and how much ammo. If he's in the wild like they think I would imagine he brought a rifle.A helicopter with your best marksmen on board will hopefully finish the job.

I wouldn't doubt this guy has a ballistic vest. Maybe even plates.Don't think a shotgun could do much.

tshauk:No Time To Explain: This is one of those stories I'm conflict on who I support

/the ex-cop who went a little ballistic after despising the corruption witnessed in his line of work//or the retarded chips who are corrupted and do such moronic things and get away with it

///i feel sad that America has went full retard this fast in my lifetime

I completely understand your plight.

Cops are idiots for the most part and way out of control, they are to far removed from the society they mean to protect.

However, Dorner killed innocent family members, and there is no justice in that. He needs to be hunted and brought to justice.

The two are separate in my opinion, but when they clash more will die.

It's tragic all around.

I've met a lot of cops over the years and haven't noticed a higher percentage of idiots in that population than any other, and in fact far less than what I find in some Fark threads.

Good on you though for working so hard for your fark counterculture merit badge.

This guy was scum the minute he put this plot together and killed innocent people. Even if he was kicked off the force inappropriately (and there is no evidence he was) he warrants no sympathy from anyone.

So, what upcoming "an innocent man, who knows to much and is now being hunted by a corrupt system that must silence him at costs and needs to find the real killer to clear his name" movie is this a viral marketing campaign for?

mexican bathtub cheese:The LAPD says they are reopening the investigation regarding his termination. He was fired for complaining about the misconduct of other officers and nothing more, plain and simple retailation. He claims the murder victims were the participants or family members of those officers who got him fired.

If you ruin someone's life and you give them no reason to be a part of society, they tend to be pretty anti-social.

Bathia_Mapes:Snotnose: They got surveillance footage of him here in town on monday tossing some unneeded loaded magazines in the trash. An employee found them and the boss took them to a police substation across the street. On camera, the boss was all "my employee missed him by 30 minutes. Thank god he didn't run into him, who knows what would have happened!"

I'm guessing Chris would have said "yo" and continued his biz. He hadn't killed anyone yet, and throwing ammo into the trash is AFAIK not a crime.

The media hysteria is out of control. I fear the cops more than Dorner at this point.

You do realize that he's a suspect in three murders, one of them a cop, right?

He's a suspect that the police are trying to execute. Until this goes to trial or height confesses - I'm skeptical about the accusations made about both the LAPD and Dorner.

Bathia_Mapes:Snotnose: They got surveillance footage of him here in town on monday tossing some unneeded loaded magazines in the trash. An employee found them and the boss took them to a police substation across the street. On camera, the boss was all "my employee missed him by 30 minutes. Thank god he didn't run into him, who knows what would have happened!"

I'm guessing Chris would have said "yo" and continued his biz. He hadn't killed anyone yet, and throwing ammo into the trash is AFAIK not a crime.

The media hysteria is out of control. I fear the cops more than Dorner at this point.

You do realize that he's a suspect in three murders, one of them a cop, right?

But all have connections to the LAPD and people he specifically had a grudge against. He's not on a rampage, per se. He's gone Rambo, literally. He's acting very rationally with a plan straight out of an action movie. I do not think he's a danger to the public, save the people related to the cops he's gunning for. Everyone else is okay. He's not after body count, just fuedin' with his former associates.

Also, I don't care how many crazy people are trying to kill you: if you're a cop you cannot just shoot randomly. When the crazy man names me as a target and I'm pretty sure I see him I can shoot randomly because I'm a civilian with no formal training and no oaths to uphold anything. I'll still go to jail, but I'm under no obligations to follow any specific rules of engagement. I can sleep well knowing I may have farked up, but I did the best I could. . . till Bubba gets horny.

Police have a higher standard. They are sworn to uphold the law and protect the public. And if they aren't sworn thus, I say we change their training and fire anyone who won't swear the new oath on the spot. The idea of cops shooting the wrong truck TWICE. Unacceptable. Clearly, regardless of how comic book this rogue cop gets in his villainy, the LAPD is seriously farked up and needs an enema.

bullwrinkle This guy is no different than the Sandy Hook shooter or the ColoradoTheatre shooter, he may have killed innocent people. I think LAPD made the right choicein firing him after all he may be a murderer.

OK, fine. Then are the police possibly guilty of attempted murder for opening fire on targets when they didn't know who was being shot at?

bullwrinkle:This guy is no different than the Sandy Hook shooter or the ColoradoTheatre shooter, he may have killed innocent people. I think LAPD made the right choicein firing him after all he may be a murderer.

Still though, there is something really funky about all this. It is almost like there is too much attention to details and the media is not only speculating themselves, but reporting speculation of others in a manner that fans the flames. I don't know what to think at this point.

sanriosucks:Can someone more in the know fill me in? This story, or the lapd's version (plus accusations made in the "manifesto"), doesn't add up. Is there more here? Conspiracy? Has this guy actually killed anyone yet?Or is he just a killer duckhead who happens to work for the lapd (who nobody trusts enough to have people not think an enemy of theirs is probably innocent)

Typical mass media proganda bullshiat.

He was a true boy scout... joinend police explorers as a kid, found $8k cash and turned it in to a church, joined the military where he went into intelligence work.. eventually was allowed to switch to non active reserves and complete his dream of joining the LAPD.

Then when he's an officer, he sees rampant racism and abuse of citizens. The day that sparked this whole mess, he had handcuffed a mentally ill suspect, and a female cop walked over and started kicking the suspect in the face... while he was on the ground handcuffed.

So Mr GI Joe here reports her for excessive force... which goes to a review panel, they say Uh we dont prosecute cops, sorry, she didnt do it... but you're now fired for filing a "false report". and lying about this abuse that never happened.

Because he was fired from the LAPD for "creating a false report", it completely boned his military security clearance and destroyed any chance he has of working anything other than a security guard.

Having everything stripped from him, and seeing rampant corruption going unchecked, as well as racism etc, he has become The Punisher, the Dark Knight, he who watches the watchmen. He has vowed to cut the corruption out of the LAPD by force, using his tactical training and access to secure military intelligence systems.

He is the terror that flaps in the night. He will kill every police officer he can to root this evil from the land. Only by waging assymetrical warfare against the LAPD was he able to bring attention to a corrupted system, and his injustice he has had to endure because he chose to do the right thing.

He is the creak in the hallway. He is the wind rustling at the back of your neck. Because his life was torn from him and destroyed to protect criminal cops, forcing him into these actions, he will never get to have a family. For forcing this fate upon him, none of the cops families shall be safe. All they hold dear is at risk... for once, the hunters become the hunted. The tyrants are afraid, for justice has come for them.

He is a good man pushed too far... and he is prepared to give his life, so that you may live yours in freedom and liberty.

doglover:Bathia_Mapes: Snotnose: They got surveillance footage of him here in town on monday tossing some unneeded loaded magazines in the trash. An employee found them and the boss took them to a police substation across the street. On camera, the boss was all "my employee missed him by 30 minutes. Thank god he didn't run into him, who knows what would have happened!"

I'm guessing Chris would have said "yo" and continued his biz. He hadn't killed anyone yet, and throwing ammo into the trash is AFAIK not a crime.

The media hysteria is out of control. I fear the cops more than Dorner at this point.

You do realize that he's a suspect in three murders, one of them a cop, right?

But all have connections to the LAPD and people he specifically had a grudge against. He's not on a rampage, per se. He's gone Rambo, literally. He's acting very rationally with a plan straight out of an action movie. I do not think he's a danger to the public, save the people related to the cops he's gunning for. Everyone else is okay. He's not after body count, just fuedin' with his former associates.

Also, I don't care how many crazy people are trying to kill you: if you're a cop you cannot just shoot randomly. When the crazy man names me as a target and I'm pretty sure I see him I can shoot randomly because I'm a civilian with no formal training and no oaths to uphold anything. I'll still go to jail, but I'm under no obligations to follow any specific rules of engagement. I can sleep well knowing I may have farked up, but I did the best I could. . . till Bubba gets horny.

Police have a higher standard. They are sworn to uphold the law and protect the public. And if they aren't sworn thus, I say we change their training and fire anyone who won't swear the new oath on the spot. The idea of cops shooting the wrong truck TWICE. Unacceptable. Clearly, regardless of how comic book this rogue cop gets in his villainy, the LAPD is seriously farked up and needs an enema.

Specifically what factual evidence are you using to condemn Dorner as a murderer? Given the source of the accusations and the execution team they've sent - I think it's pretty important to demand this goes to trial before we start calling anyone a murderer.

jakomo002,Enemabag Jones: I am sure police do everything possible to bring him in alive.Based on what evidence, exactly? Because that truck wasn't the only one the cops shot up.http://articles.latimes.com/2013/feb/07/local/la-me-la-fear-20130208/ 2About 25 minutes after that shooting, Torrance police opened fire after spotting another truck similar to Dorner's at Flagler Lane and Beryl Street. No one was reported hurt."If I had a [Nissan] Titan, I would park it today," said Walter Howe, 60, at a Torrance Starbucks.Betcha Mr. Howe has lived in L.A. long enough to make that informed decision.

Did you read my entire post? Cause you are easily confused or trolling.

Still though, there is something really funky about all this. It is almost like there is too much attention to details and the media is not only speculating themselves, but reporting speculation of others in a manner that fans the flames. I don't know what to think at this point.

Alonjar:sanriosucks: Can someone more in the know fill me in? This story, or the lapd's version (plus accusations made in the "manifesto"), doesn't add up. Is there more here? Conspiracy? Has this guy actually killed anyone yet?Or is he just a killer duckhead who happens to work for the lapd (who nobody trusts enough to have people not think an enemy of theirs is probably innocent)

Typical mass media proganda bullshiat.

He was a true boy scout... joinend police explorers as a kid, found $8k cash and turned it in to a church, joined the military where he went into intelligence work.. eventually was allowed to switch to non active reserves and complete his dream of joining the LAPD.

Then when he's an officer, he sees rampant racism and abuse of citizens. The day that sparked this whole mess, he had handcuffed a mentally ill suspect, and a female cop walked over and started kicking the suspect in the face... while he was on the ground handcuffed.

So Mr GI Joe here reports her for excessive force... which goes to a review panel, they say Uh we dont prosecute cops, sorry, she didnt do it... but you're now fired for filing a "false report". and lying about this abuse that never happened.

Because he was fired from the LAPD for "creating a false report", it completely boned his military security clearance and destroyed any chance he has of working anything other than a security guard.

Having everything stripped from him, and seeing rampant corruption going unchecked, as well as racism etc, he has become The Punisher, the Dark Knight, he who watches the watchmen. He has vowed to cut the corruption out of the LAPD by force, using his tactical training and access to secure military intelligence systems.

He is the terror that flaps in the night. He will kill every police officer he can to root this evil from the land. Only by waging assymetrical warfare against the LAPD was he able to bring attention to a corrupted system, and his injustice he has had to endure because he chose to do the right thing.

He is the creak in the hallway. He is the wind rustling at the back of your neck. Because his life was torn from him and destroyed to protect criminal cops, forcing him into these actions, he will never get to have a family. For forcing this fate upon him, none of the cops families shall be safe. All they hold dear is at risk... for once, the hunters become the hunted. The tyrants are afraid, for justice has come for them.

He is a good man pushed too far... and he is prepared to give his life, so that you may live yours in freedom and liberty.

He is an American Hero.

Well, if he did kill anyone, he's not a hero but part of the crime problem.